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Stranger78
01-10-09, 17:49
Hi Waiyaki,

Great post. Can you provide me contacts for Priya or any good indian contacts. via PM

Thanks


I am an american citizen of african kenyan ethnic descent. I travel often on business for developed, emerging and frontier (emerging emerging) market funds scoping for opportunities in places such as Singapore, Hong Kong, Kenya, Ghana, South Africa, Indonesia, Egypt, Ethiopia etc. Since I am in a committed relationship gone are the days of sweet talking a girl and working the chase leaving a trail of evidence and unwrapped endings. As noted once somewhere in the forum mongering and paying the girl is not as much for her services but to ensure she leaves with the ends nicely tied up and I return to my usual life.

Concarne
01-11-09, 17:05
Only 3 of us turned up, at Casaurina's in the afternoon. Me, Jfalcon and Jim_01. Later we hooked up (and the next day! ) at Cheers, Tembo and Casablanca. . Wsgsoon (will see you guys soon etc.).

Too bad. So what forum have Jfalcon and Jim_01 posted to?

Amha
01-12-09, 12:12
I just went to the website. Looks very promising. Anyone here with personal experience with this service? Easy enough to find an agent to withdraw cash?

I will be using my usual account but I do want to have a separate fund flow to keep the added entertainment costs below the radar.

Thanks!

Mpesa works fine. I live in South Africa and send money to my Kenyan girl friend in Uganda using Mpesa. Safaricom roams in SA which enables me to send an sms and in UG there are Mpesa outlets from where she can receive the cash. Whenever I am in Nairobi I make a deposit into my Mpesa account. It is a great piece of technology.

IvoryEbonyLover
01-13-09, 11:24
Con,

What date do you fly in? Your answer is to be found in my previous posting. Remove soon from the word with seven letters last sentence. Hope you bring the sun tan oil as its high summer here, sun is overhead. 95 degrees in Mombasa. You flying into Msa or Nbi?

Waiyaki
01-13-09, 20:26
Stranger78

I kept the contacts of her cousin, the other indian girl I had, on a separate (zain) sim card from my business (safaricom) card. The zaiin sim had my mongering contacts. When I left the country I disposed of the mongering card.

It is easy though to find these semi-pro girls. I use either the taxi network or a local business contact I feel comfortable with.

It has worked for me with :

Indian semi-pros like priya in Kenya

Lebanese semi-pro girls in Ghana

College semi pro girl in south africa (UCT or Stellenbosch - do not recall which one - that was a business contact)

etc

cheers


Hi Waiyaki,

Great post. Can you provide me contacts for Priya or any good indian contacts. via PM

Thanks

Concarne
01-14-09, 19:31
Con,

What date do you fly in? Your answer is to be found in my previous posting. Remove soon from the word with seven letters last sentence. Hope you bring the sun tan oil as its high summer here, sun is overhead. 95 degrees in Mombasa. You flying into Msa or Nbi?

Dude, send me a PM.

I am flying into Nairobi and hanging there and the Rift Valley for a couple of weeks. then onto MBA

IvoryEbonyLover
01-18-09, 22:55
Thot u knew that in this site one cannot PM unless one has sent a contribution to the running of the site, which I havent done. But I guess you can PM me. I will be in Nairobi 1st Feb then to Msa and prob to Tanzania for some days. But we will hook up once you are here if you PM me with your phone number or other contact. IEL.

Tim Bone
01-22-09, 20:56
I have been booked at Fairview Hotel and wonder if someone can clarify how girlfriendly it is. I see that one person wrote he brought back girls without problems (almost 2 years ago though), or do you have to pay the joiner fee which seems to be 50 USD most places (more than you pay the girl).

Donnachaa
01-23-09, 01:36
I have been booked at Fairview Hotel and wonder if someone can clarify how girlfriendly it is. I see that one person wrote he brought back girls without problems (almost 2 years ago though), or do you have to pay the joiner fee which seems to be 50 USD most places (more than you pay the girl).Tim,

The Fairview is a lovely hotel. Very suitable if you are bringing your wife and children on safari to Kenya. It is NOT suitable for serious mongering.

For serious fucking try the Parkside Hotel or Terminal Hotel. Trust me.

Take Care,

Donnachaa

Jerulez
02-04-09, 23:43
Does any1 have any info as to where cialis can be obtained in nairobi?

Or an equally good alternative.

AfAsia
02-05-09, 09:18
Exit Florida 1/madhouse, to your left, about 100yrds is a pharmacy, don`t recall the name. In one of my reports i believe i gave the details.

Jerulez
02-05-09, 23:37
Exit Florida 1/madhouse, to your left, about 100yrds is a pharmacy, don`t recall the name. In one of my reports i believe i gave the details.Thanks dude!

Does one need a prescription?

I'll be touching down in a few months and boy oh boy will I have fun.

AfAsia
02-06-09, 07:39
Does one need a prescription?

Negative!..I think one can just about get any medication in most African countries without prescription.

Nairobi is great fun, do not be in a hurry to get to Mombasa. As payment for advice, a nice trip report with photos will suffice :D

Westcoast 1951
02-06-09, 18:42
Just go to any pharmacy and ask for it. Price about KSH 1700 for 3. No subscription is needed and the same applies to any other enhancers. Viagra 100mg was KSH 3400 for 4 (about US$ 42).

LustyHombre
02-06-09, 20:33
Just go to any pharmacy and ask for it. Price about KSH 1700 for 3. No subscription is needed and the same applies to any other enhancers. Viagra 100mg was KSH 3400 for 4 (about US$ 42).I've been taking VEGA 100 for 2 years now. It's generic SIDENAFIL 100mg tabs Made in India , and works exactly the same as the Pfizer product , except that it costs only a fraction of the real McCoy.

I pay 1,000 for a 4pak in pharmacies in the high rent districts of Mombasa and only between 400 and 600 in downmarket areas , as I discovered just the other day .
I've paid the same 1,000 in upmarket NBO areas but don't know how much less it might go for in the seedier neighborhoods.

Jerulez
02-07-09, 02:56
Negative! I think one can just about get any medication in most African countries without prescription.Of course you can. Because you have been to most african countries innit?

The reason you can get drugs like viagra and cialis without prescription in most african countries is because for some bizarre reason they usually get a 'waiver'. Similar to aspirin. Other drugs like prescription antibiotics cannot be gotten hold of without medication.

Anyway, I've been hearing about the dangerous effects about some generics. Obviously I don't want to risk my life and more so my willy (which I hold more dear than my life). I don't want to spend loads on branded products if I can get quality reputable generic products at an OK price.

I haven't bought any enhancers before. I wanted to seek some advice about which ones can be found in nairobi and their effectiveness. A poster talked about 'vega' but that was in Mombasa.

AfAsia
02-07-09, 23:20
I haven't bought any enhancers before. I wanted to seek some advice about which ones can be found in nairobi and their effectiveness. A poster talked about 'vega' but that was in Mombasa.

More the reason why you should read the relevant Cialis thread, you can order them online through one of the links which is what i did. Delivery was within ten days and they are real effective enhancers. I normally halve the 20mg, still effective enough, you do not want them giving you such wood that you are prohibited from blowing your load, a tendency unfortunately at times.

Gesheft
02-10-09, 18:05
Well this forum has been remarkably quiet recently.

Has nobody been mongering in Nairobi recently? ! Strange.

As Nairobi (IMHO) is one of the worlds' best spots for mongering. I would have expected a lot more action going on here!

Maybe its a sign of the times. Less business trips? Less cash for tourism? Mind you. Try and get a room in Nairobi next week for under $200. So many hotels are fully booked!

Anyway. Back to the real business.

I was recently in Nairobi for a few days. I had a busy schedule and so had no time to go out & monger. Just had to search some contacts & see what I could get.

Now my usual tool is AfroIntro. Which gives me tens of phone numbers. And again it was hard to make a choice.

Anyway. I gave K. A call. And 20 minutes later we were having a drink together, and 10 minutes after that we were back in my room.

Here is one of the pics that she had mailed me in advance.

Apologies. But I wasnt in the mood to take my own pics this time. K. Is 19. And seems more mature.

Has a pretty good body. Great boobs. Which she insists on getting full attention. Which was a bit boring. But I managed that ok.

Anyway a fun time was had by all.

Now. Afterwards. Walking her to her bus. What a gentleman I am. And she wouldn't accept "taxi money" from me. She made a slight detour. Supposedly to collect something from someone. Into an offstreet cyber cafe and lo & behold. I was taken to meet Mum and the Aunties!

Hmmmmm. Now I wasnt sure about that. Being paraded before Mum. And me still having the smell of her sweet pussy all over my face!

As it turned out. XXXXX was pretty cute herself. (maybe next time? )

But I kinda made a quick but polite exit.

All in all. She was pretty good.

Looks 9/10

GFE. 9/10. Although maybe too much GF!

Cost. One coffee

In the sack. 6/10. Too much of a taker not enough a giver

G.

Rwenotmen
02-13-09, 01:54
well this forum has been remarkably quiet recently.

Has nobody been mongering in Nairobi recently? ! Strange.

As Nairobi (IMHO) is one of the worlds' best spots for mongering. I would have expected a lot more action going on here!

Maybe its a sign of the times. Less business trips? Less cash for tourism? Mind you. Try and get a room in Nairobi next week for under $200. So many hotels are fully booked! Hey Gesheft, we all can't be world-traveler/mongerer like you--but we wish!

Any idea why hotels are booked up? Big conference in town?

Perhaps some more life will occur in this forum in the next month or more.

Mad Dog65
03-04-09, 06:23
Hi All,

I will be in Nairobi next week and I am interested in finding a regular provider who can give a great massage and extras. I am happy to pay a little extra for quality. Please PM me with contact info. Many thanks.

MD

AhmedB75
03-11-09, 13:37
I am considering booking the Ngong Hills Hotel for my trip to Nairobi in August. Usually I stay at Fairview Hotel, which is very GFE (especially if you book First Class Rooms. They are located separately from the main building, far away from reception, so no "walk of shame", no registration or whatever).

However, Fairview Hotel is not the cheapest one (but excellent value for money). If you are on a business trip and your company pays for it, book First Class Room at Fairview Hotel and you are lucky.

Ngong Hills Hotel could be an interesting altenative to Fairview Hotel. Website looks nice and prices much lower than Fairview Hotel.

Guys, please share your experiences with Ngong Hills Hotel!

Thanks

Mad Dog65
03-12-09, 10:12
Greetings to the board,

I am sorry to say that I have no experience with Ngong Hills Hotels.

I came across an Nairobi based spa called Oasis Dreams that requires a membership fee but is short on what those membership priveledges include - not sure if it is a scam. Has anyone used them?

I also made a massage spa visit to a place in Westlands Arcade that I would not recommend. Lousy massage, expensive, and not very friendly service even with my attempts at making small talk and charm. It was a Sunday afternoon so not sure if that is a factor with not much open.

Still looking for any recommendations for GFE massage - any suggestions out there? PM with details.

Cheers

MD

Jerulez
03-13-09, 21:19
I am considering booking the Ngong Hills Hotel for my trip to Nairobi in August. Usually I stay at Fairview Hotel, which is very GFE (especially if you book First Class Rooms. They are located separately from the main building, far away from reception, so no "walk of shame", no registration or whatever).

However, Fairview Hotel is not the cheapest one (but excellent value for money). If you are on a business trip and your company pays for it, book First Class Room at Fairview Hotel and you are lucky.

Ngong Hills Hotel could be an interesting altenative to Fairview Hotel. Website looks nice and prices much lower than Fairview Hotel.

Guys, please share your experiences with Ngong Hills Hotel!

ThanksNgong Hills is aight. Significantly lower in class than fairview so don't moan if you find that its not up to fairview standards. However it is common with old married men and their 'ndogo ndogos' (kenyan slang for mistress) so I'm guessing you'll fit in very well with the crowd

There's a few good nyama choma spots and some nice malls around. But some of my family lives around there so I wouldn't be caught dead with a ndogo ndogo, LOL

Tell the cabbie to take you to three wheels restaurant which is a few hundred yards away. You'll meet some nice women there. Women who aren't that into long term relationships if you know what I mean.

Fun Hot
03-18-09, 20:34
Jerulez, for your information, Three wheels has been pulled down. They are constructing something else there. Residential flats, shopping mall? Who knows?

Member #4379
04-14-09, 17:40
Sorry that this is a question as opposed to information on the mongering scene. I'm planning to live in Nairobi for 6 months and am seeking advice on finding cheap accommodation for 6 months. What would be the monthly cost of getting a guesthouse that has a bathroom and running water and electricity most if not all the time or for renting a 1 bedroom flat? You can private message me to not waste space in this forum. I know from living in Ghana the challenge is finding the 'local' price instead of the 'foreign' price and having to avoid paying all 6 months up front. Any advice/contacts/websites/ would be greatly appreciated.

If I do make it to Nairobi I promise to make a contribution.

Taurus1
04-15-09, 19:45
Sorry that this is a question as opposed to information on the mongering scene. I'm planning to live in Nairobi for 6 months and am seeking advice on finding cheap accommodation for 6 months. What would be the monthly cost of getting a guesthouse that has a bathroom and running water and electricity most if not all the time or for renting a 1 bedroom flat? You can private message me to not waste space in this forum. I know from living in Ghana the challenge is finding the 'local' price instead of the 'foreign' price and having to avoid paying all 6 months up front. Any advice/contacts/websites/ would be greatly appreciated.

If I do make it to Nairobi I promise to make a contribution.Look at the newspaper Daily Nation and at the message board of Nakumatt.

Jerulez
04-21-09, 21:06
Yes, dildos are really liked. At least some educated women don't like to risk sex with those many lazy Kenyans living on their pocket anymore and need some variation. My Mombasa girl now keeps it under her pillow always :)Errrmm dude, I hope you do know that there are 'many lazy kenyans' who post here. And guess what, they are the best go to guys about the 'good life' in Kenya.

A little bit of courtesy and common sense never killed anyone.

Jerulez
04-23-09, 11:20
and guess what these 'lazy kenyans' have done (tongue in cheek)

peep this new site out. this guy must have really had some time on his hands. he's compiled an impressive list of escorts and brothels in 4 major towns in kenya. everything from black kenyan to arab to indian to west african ladies all to ready to please you.

http://mazozo.com/

Leo Collins
04-23-09, 17:19
I will be in Nairobi early May for business. I'm staying at Hilton Hotel and was wondering if it's girl friendly place? Could you share girls contact details as well or best places to meet easy going ones?

It would be nice to meet some buddies as well! Anybody up for a beer on Sunday May 3?

Thanks

October70
04-23-09, 18:04
Hi guys,

I have two nights in Nairobi. What are the "sex-highlights" to visit, where to stay (GF friednly) and where to hang out in the evening after work?

Let me hear your opinions.

Jerulez
04-24-09, 00:35
Hi guys,

I have two nights in Nairobi. What are the "sex-highlights" to visit, where to stay (GF friednly) and where to hang out in the evening after work?

Let me hear your opinions.Ask the cabbie to take you to three-eden in downtown nairobi. The area is a little seedy but its still safe.

Its got a big blue door and stairs that lead to what many men call heaven

i guarantee you've never seen women like this. You might even meet the off duty hotel manager and your boss there

October70
04-24-09, 18:26
Thanks for the suggestion.

What is three-eden which makes it so special?

Jerulez
04-25-09, 21:07
Thanks for the suggestion.

What is three-eden which makes it so special?Its got a common-man's touch. They might be surprised to see a melanin-challenged person there but they'll still be friendly. As soon as you step in, you'll be welcomed by a number of damsels who will ask you what you want. There's all kind of girls there and you just take your pick

Give us a report when you pass through

AhmedB75
04-30-09, 12:45
I have found two very nice apartment hotels in Nairobi, take a look on www.palacina.com and www.naturaloak.co.ke
Both could be convenient for a mongering trip to Nairobi (my is planned for July / August 2009)

Does anybody know, are they GF?

Please share your experiences

Thanks

October70
04-30-09, 22:28
Does anyone know if Country Lodge is GF?

If not what are the alternatives without being too dodgy?

Thanks

Nguvu2
05-01-09, 05:00
Both are wonderful places. Palacina quite a bit more expensive. GF? Of course, its your apartment! For your purposes why not consider Kenya Comfort Suites. Less expensive, just book a double and no worries. About 3, 600 shillings for a double.

Mukio
05-01-09, 11:36
Both are wonderful places. Palacina quite a bit more expensive. GF? Of course, its your apartment! For your purposes why not consider Kenya Comfort Suites. Less expensive, just book a double and no worries. About 3, 600 shillings for a double.Of course kenya comfort is cool. Theres the one in hurlingham and the one in city center. I have stayed in the latter and it was good. Mad house is literally walking distance but I highly recommend that you pay the KShs 200 cab fare as walking these days in the city center at night is a terrible idea. And am a local so you can take my word to the treasury.

The hurlingham one is more pricey and gives you ready access to the numerous classy gals around the area. The inconvenience is that hurlingham is less centrally located hence you might travel longer and with traffic jams whereas the city center one you can walk during the day and travel any direction.

Hesekiels
05-03-09, 14:53
... And am a local so you can take my word to the treasury...

.


Mukio:

since you are a local guy and therewith an expert I would like to ask you the following question: how can one distinguish between a pro and a non-pro one meets let's say at Simmers or in Madhouse? All of them are pretty, expect some money - which is perfectly fine for me -, but nevertheless, are there from your point of view any indicators that help to differentiate between both groups? Whenever I am in Africa I am struggling namely with exactly this question!

I look forward to reading your opinion!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Jerulez
05-03-09, 20:43
Mukio:

since you are a local guy and therewith an expert I would like to ask you the following question: how can one distinguish between a pro and a non-pro one meets let's say at Simmers or in Madhouse? All of them are pretty, expect some money - which is perfectly fine for me -, but nevertheless, are there from your point of view any indicators that help to differentiate between both groups? Whenever I am in Africa I am struggling namely with exactly this question!

I look forward to reading your opinion!

Cheers!

HesekielsPros will:

1. Have excessive make-up

2. Very revealing dresses

3. Try to make eye contact with you, wink, and in many cases come up to you and chat you up

In simmers and madhouse, if a woman isn't with a man or with a group of girlfriends, then she's a pro.

Hesekiels
05-04-09, 20:37
Pros will:

1. Have excessive make-up

2. Very revealing dresses

3. Try to make eye contact with you, wink, and in many cases come up to you and chat you up

In simmers and madhouse, if a woman isn't with a man or with a group of girlfriends, then she's a pro.


Thanks for your opinion, brother! However, in this case there are a lot of pros hanging around, or am I wrong?

By the way, have you any idea how much the local guys pay for ST/LT? I suppose much less than foreigners like us?


Cheers!


Hesekiels

Safado Xxx
05-05-09, 12:40
Am in Nairobi in a round 4 weeks time always have a great time but would love something wilder this time around maybe some group sex (I, m straight) anybody interested in doing some girl sharing!

I, m sure there are some girls around that would go for this.

Safado

Willyboy
05-05-09, 13:48
In florida madhouse paying black mans 800kes for full night.

Schort thime is around 200kes to 500kes. (street situation. Koinanga street).

One mzungu can have it for 1000kes. But this is not for beginners (full night).

Beginners starting always from 2000kes end up.

Hesekiels
05-05-09, 21:03
In florida madhouse paying black mans 800kes for full night.

Schort thime is around 200kes to 500kes. (street situation. Koinanga street).

One mzungu can have it for 1000kes. But this is not for beginners (full night).

Beginners starting always from 2000kes end up.


Willyboy:

indeed a great info! Good to have this benchmark!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Jerulez
05-06-09, 23:59
Thanks for your opinion, brother! However, in this case there are a lot of pros hanging around, or am I wrong?

By the way, have you any idea how much the local guys pay for ST/LT? I suppose much less than foreigners like us?

Cheers!

HesekielsI'll be down in July. I work in UK but im kenyan so i know places that are your wildest dreams.

Duck Tomb
05-13-09, 06:25
Any one heard of a **** operating in Chiromo Road named Pam.

She is awesome.

Just ask for her when you are there.

Karma Sutra
05-20-09, 09:14
Am in Nairobi in a round 4 weeks time always have a great time but would love something wilder this time around maybe some group sex (I, m straight) anybody interested in doing some girl sharing!

I, m sure there are some girls around that would go for this.

SafadoSure you can holla at me when you get here.

PS: I'm also straight.

Willyboy
05-21-09, 20:41
Nobody was visit place with name GOOD HOPE or GREEN LIGHTS (downtown)?

Jerulez
05-23-09, 16:55
Nobody was visit place with name GOOD HOPE or GREEN LIGHTS (downtown)?I know good hope. But you'd need a cabbie to take you there. Not even many nairobians know it.

i don't know of green lights but i know of modern green.

Keyboard
05-23-09, 17:52
Greetings to all,

I stayed in Nairobi for awhile earlier in the year and plan to return in a couple of months. I am not an experienced monger; in fact, have a local girlfriend whom I spend most of my time with. Nevertheless, am sometimes interested in being touched by another woman and would like to find an effective method of finding some good masseuses. I have read some of the older posts with references to the major newspapers’ classified ads. These are apparently now gone. Other than just wandering around a general area, can someone provide information on how to find a good massage? Posting or private message would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance. (I'm a new member. I’ll be happy to share information once I get up and going, so to speak.)

Cowperwood

Willyboy
05-23-09, 18:41
I know good hope. But you'd need a cabbie to take you there. Not even many nairobians know it.

i don't know of green lights but i know of modern green.It can by modern green, 24h open non stop.

Willyboy
05-23-09, 18:46
I know good hope. But you'd need a cabbie to take you there. Not even many nairobians know it.

I don't know of green lights but I know of modern green.In good hope. I was drinking one tusker with my taxidriver. But this is lokal bar. Plaese mzungu mans. Go not insite this bar. Terribel

Keyboard
05-24-09, 15:19
Of course kenya comfort is cool. Theres the one in hurlingham and the one in city center. I have stayed in the latter and it was good. Mad house is literally walking distance but I highly recommend that you pay the KShs 200 cab fare as walking these days in the city center at night is a terrible idea. And am a local so you can take my word to the treasury.Mukio,

During my recent stay in Nairobi I developed the opinion that the city center was the one place in greater Nairobi that I could walk around safely at night. It was well lighted and teeming with security guards. Granted, their primary concern is not your safety in that they are normally guarding something else, but at least their presence tends to discourage assaultive behavior. It was outside the city center that one seemed to be easy prey for the predators. Was I foolish?

Cowperwood

Denis1960
05-24-09, 15:22
Greetings to all,

I have read some of the older posts with references to the major newspapers’ classified ads. These are apparently now gone.

CowperwoodThey (classified) keep on disappearing every couple of years, then they more or less come back. One day they might just disappear for good. Classified were still there a few weeks ago, try to find a 2 to 3 month old paper. (yes, I know, not that easy to find.)

Tonkazan
05-25-09, 15:48
In good hope. I was drinking one tusker with my taxidriver. But this is lokal bar. Plaese mzungu mans. Go not insite this bar. TerribelWillyboy, I am a local (black African), but I would not drink in that place. That's not a "local" bar, that's a gutter bar!

Keyboard
05-25-09, 20:20
They (classified) keep on disappearing every couple of years, then they more or less come back. One day they might just disappear for good. Classified were still there a few weeks ago, try to find a 2 to 3 month old paper. (yes, I know, not that easy to find.)Thanks for the info, Denis. Seems like slim pickin's on the massage front!

Willyboy
05-25-09, 20:35
Willyboy, I am a local (black African), but I would not drink in that place. That's not a "local" bar, that's a gutter bar! If I now this situation bifore.than I was not visit insite.Only good to losed my underwaer. Socks. Schoes. More ordinaer is Inpossibel. Better florida madhouse. More expensif but more klass. Simmers is low klass also. But possible.

Jerulez
05-26-09, 18:28
For those of you looking for massage, look no further

http://mazozo.com/

Eat your hearts out. Its like a directory. Only difference is that its your willy rather than your finger that will do the walking.

Screwed Up
05-26-09, 23:59
It can by modern green, 24h open non stop.
Modern Green in Lakema Road? Funny place, the other day around 1am there was a gorgeous petite girl outside about 21yo. She couldn't remember her number though. And I was on my way to Madhouse, coming from hotel Kipepeo in River Rd.
Only 2 blocks from the Hilton but this area has a terrible reputation.
I told the bouncer of Modern Green to give her my hotel number and call me when she's back.
On another night I went inside and talked to the bouncer for a bit. Some chick and the old man whose lap she was sitting on, fell down from a chair. They chuckled, pissed drunk, and continued their conversation on the floor. Like 3 min. later the bouncer finally told them to get up.
I forgot how drunk Kenyans like to get.
I also ventured into another disco thereabouts on the corner, second floor. It was huge, on a Sunday I think. I was the only white guy, but it was as if I was invisible. Weird, I left after finishing my drink. Was kinda boring.

For those of you looking for massage, look no further

http://mazozo.com/
It's just tel. numbers? No other info?

AhmedB75
05-27-09, 10:19
Can anybody give advice where to find very good looking, classy girls in Nairobi? Money doesn't matter (up to a certain limit, of course...)

I know both Floridas well but I am a bit tired of them and would like to try
something new.

Any advice (preferably from a local guy) will be very appreciated.

LynnMan
05-27-09, 18:16
Massage services;

The most info about a massage provider you can hope to get is a phone number, when you call the girl will direct you where to go. Most are in city center, or Ngara, and service hours usually end at 6-7pm. The local paper Daily Nation is available in PDF format online, and includes the classifieds, but you need to get a username and password, which may take some time, but its free. The massage ads appear under "beauty" or even "Hair-Dresser" section, all those are massage ads, no hair saloon in Nairobi I know would pay for the classifieds.

Regarding street girls, they can be found plenty on Westlands rd, it stretches between Woodvale grove in Westlands, upto Museum hill, if you are using a local Taxi, have the driver take you to Galileo night club, its right at the beginning of the zone that this girls walk. A word of caution, there are uniformed and armed police officers patroling this road, as well as Chiromo lane etc, and being Kenya Police, they can confront you as you pick up a girl, so take your time, and another thing better take the girls to a hotel, or a place you have picked up before-hand. I have heard stories of people trying to do it in the car at a garage after giving the security guard some money, then end up getting busted by the police.

Keep it safe gentlemen

Lm

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Willyboy
05-27-09, 18:59
Can anybody give advice where to find very good looking, classy girls in Nairobi? Money doesn't matter (up to a certain limit, of course...)

I know both Floridas well but I am a bit tired of them and would like to try
something new.

Any advice (preferably from a local guy) will be very appreciated.If you need help in Nairobi to find nice girls, then many thinks is wrong with yourself.

More simple is inpossible.

Jerulez
05-27-09, 22:49
Can anybody give advice where to find very good looking, classy girls in Nairobi? Money doesn't matter (up to a certain limit, of course...)

I know both Floridas well but I am a bit tired of them and would like to try
something new.

Any advice (preferably from a local guy) will be very appreciated.Shame on you sir.

How dare you say that the great country of Kenya is lacking in nubile beauties. Why, the bold and innovative have even put it online for you! That way you don't have to leave the comfort of your sofa....

http://kenyaraha.net/index.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

http://www.kenya4.com/laid.htm

and a pictorial directory...

http://nudekenya.com/index.aspx

Keyboard
05-28-09, 18:02
Massage services;

The most info about a massage provider you can hope to get is a phone number, when you call the girl will direct you where to go. Most are in city center, or Ngara, and service hours usually end at 6-7pm. The local paper Daily Nation is available in PDF format online, and includes the classifieds, but you need to get a username and password, which may take some time, but its free. The massage ads appear under "beauty" or even "Hair-Dresser" section, all those are massage ads, no hair saloon in Nairobi I know would pay for the classifieds.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Thanks to LynnMan and Jerulez for writing on this topic.

On the mozozo.com referenced by Jerulez, the downside is that there was no information other than phone numbers and one doesn’t know whether these are even current. The upside is that there were at least phone numbers, so, lacking everything else, one could begin there.

On the Daily Nation classifieds referenced by LynnMan, I spent some time creating a user ID (actually two, one for their digital version) and finally tracked down the classifieds on the digital newspaper. Alas, nothing contained therein could be discerned as massage. No health or beauty or hair-dresser salons or anything else that I could remotely connect to massage service. I am concluding that these have been taken out of the major newspapers as has been reported earlier on this forum.

I guess the only thing to do is hit the pavement and start scouting around. Which is what I’ll do when I return to Nairobi later this year. If I find anything worthwhile, I’ll post it. If anyone has anything else on massage services, please enlighten us.

Jerulez
05-29-09, 00:10
Thanks to LynnMan and Jerulez for writing on this topic.

On the mozozo.com referenced by Jerulez, the downside is that there was no information other than phone numbers and one doesn’t know whether these are even current. The upside is that there were at least phone numbers, so, lacking everything else, one could begin there.

On the Daily Nation classifieds referenced by LynnMan, I spent some time creating a user ID (actually two, one for their digital version) and finally tracked down the classifieds on the digital newspaper. Alas, nothing contained therein could be discerned as massage. No health or beauty or hair-dresser salons or anything else that I could remotely connect to massage service. I am concluding that these have been taken out of the major newspapers as has been reported earlier on this forum.

I guess the only thing to do is hit the pavement and start scouting around. Which is what I’ll do when I return to Nairobi later this year. If I find anything worthwhile, I’ll post it. If anyone has anything else on massage services, please enlighten us.I've called some of the numbers in the mozozo website. Trust me they are current - especially the nairobi ones. Try the UG/Rwandese one. The number is active and the place is open 24/7. Just write down the directions they give you, give them to a cabbie and he'll take you there

Also the numbers in kenya4.com are active

How long will you be in kenya?

Screwed Up
05-29-09, 20:37
Shame on you sir.

How dare you say that the great country of Kenya is lacking in nubile beauties. Why, the bold and innovative have even put it online for you! That way you don't have to leave the comfort of your sofa....

http://kenyaraha.net/index.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

http://www.kenya4.com/laid.htm

and a pictorial directory...

http://nudekenya.com/index.aspx
Interesting sites.
He however stated that he was looking classy ladies which isn't the same as nubile beauties. Having had big drunk mama's bother me more than once I know it's not always as easy to find the cute ones, let alone classy.

About that last site, are they surely all Kenian? I can spot 2 US girls at the bottom row.

Jaynock78
05-29-09, 21:13
I love black girls and have dated lots of Kenyan girls in Europe. 1 of July om going to africa and Kenya for the first time. Have lots of telephonenumbers from girls on afrointro, but still would like some advice. What clubs in Nairobi has the most and beautfull girls, maybe from different tribes? (Actually love that Kalenjintribe). Would appreciate any advice.

Jamjam222
05-30-09, 19:32
I love black girls and have dated lots of Kenyan girls in Europe. 1 of July om going to africa and Kenya for the first time. Have lots of telephonenumbers from girls on afrointro, but still would like some advice. What clubs in Nairobi has the most and beautfull girls, maybe from different tribes? (Actually love that Kalenjintribe). Would appreciate any advice.Well Florida 2000 (Madhouse) near the market and New Florida 2000 are safe bets. F1 and F2

There is also an F3 in the same building as F2 which is a strip club. There is not a lot of nudity though, and the lap dance aren't all that and will cost you 2000k. But it has a good atmosphere and the girls are friendly (although take care of your drink, one of the girls told me to stay alert) so as a place to get some drinks before F2 get's filled is a good idea.

In F2 they have a dance group. One of the girls name is Yvonne. Tall with a great ass and body. She is available.

I also went to Gypsy Bar in Westlands. Great with some knock outs. Seemed a little higher class of girls and guys.

Jamjam222
05-30-09, 20:00
I stayed in Meridian Court Hotel which is very central and the rooms are big. You get a living room and one sleeping room for about 7000k for a double. If you book a single they will charge you extra with no further hassle. They now the game. There is a swimming pool on top of the hotel. They had great Indian food. I bargained the room down to 5500 for a double for 10 days. Could have gone lower I think.

I would stay there again, but it is a little expensive. Does anyone know of any better deals? Next time I would prefer an apartment, where I could come and go as I like with no further hassle. Been searching the net, and found a place called High Point Hotel that supposedly have some apartments: http://www.highpointcourt.com/

Other places: http://www.travel-library.com/apartments/africa/kenya/nairobi/

Any suggestions and info would be highly appreciated.

Jerulez
05-30-09, 23:05
Interesting sites.

He however stated that he was looking classy ladies which isn't the same as nubile beauties. Having had big drunk mama's bother me more than once I know it's not always as easy to find the cute ones, let alone classy.

About that last site, are they surely all Kenian? I can spot 2 US girls at the bottom row.Thanks for pointing that out.

I hadn't clicked at the 'models' tab before. I just did and shock on me!!! I could recognize half of those girls from american porn movies.

I think its prolly a stunt by some shrewd college kid in kenya. Gotta give him props though. Stick to Kenya4.com. Its reliable and the best known kenyan website that lists escorts. Mazozo is pretty nice too. I was in kenya last summer and i came over with some ex-uni pals who wanted to get 'groovy'. I hit up the site, got some numbers and drove my pals there.

With class, its simple - you get what you pay for. I know places in west nairobi where escorts charge $150 for a pop. Yes they're classy but you pay through your nose.

Jamjam,
What's your budget? I know a place in Ngara that charges 2K per night. Nice, clean, hot showers with a decent restaurant. Its about 10 minutes drive from the CBD.

Willyboy
05-31-09, 08:10
Thanks for pointing that out.

I hadn't clicked at the 'models' tab before. I just did and shock on me!!! I could recognize half of those girls from american porn movies.

I think its prolly a stunt by some shrewd college kid in kenya. Gotta give him props though. Stick to Kenya4.com. Its reliable and the best known kenyan website that lists escorts. Mazozo is pretty nice too. I was in kenya last summer and i came over with some ex-uni pals who wanted to get 'groovy'. I hit up the site, got some numbers and drove my pals there.

With class, its simple - you get what you pay for. I know places in west nairobi where escorts charge $150 for a pop. Yes they're classy but you pay through your nose.

Jamjam,

What's your budget? I know a place in Ngara that charges 2K per night. Nice, clean, hot showers with a decent restaurant. Its about 10 minutes drive from the CBD.When kenya visiters will andestand that kenya workers (90 procent from workers) have only 3to 5 dollar /day.300 to 500 kes/day. One man in florida told my that Hi pay 800kes/full night. Hi ask my. Howmatch for you. I say maby 2000kes. His answer. You must by one miljoenaer end you distroy the market prices. O. K guys.2000kes/full night. This is the price for mzungu. If you pay more. You make market prices end. Wath girls asking is not inportent. Kenya persons ask for evry servis 3thimes tomatch for mzungu. If taximan say 1000kes.300kes will by enough. Al kenya persons is bizzy with this for evry servis. For kenya persons. Mzungu is ATM machine.

Inportent for kenya. Laern the prices. For this you need many visits.

Zamziv
05-31-09, 14:55
Its amazing my friends.

I registered to this site and since then I got the girls as much as i wanted.

Just posted my profile there and they came all over me non-stop after a nice and polite chat on line you can get their number and set up a date.

They are not stunners but some are real good looking.

For sure they are not working girls.

They never ask for payment - they will always wait to get some on their leave.

You should try it - it works all over Africa

Jamjam222
05-31-09, 17:18
Thanks for pointing that out.

Jamjam,

What's your budget? I know a place in Ngara that charges 2K per night. Nice, clean, hot showers with a decent restaurant. Its about 10 minutes drive from the CBD.I can go up to about 5k I would say. It depends of the quality. (would prefer a swimming pool, but it's not the most important thing) What I am looking for is a place where girls can come and go without anyone noticing/caring (no family hotel/place if you understand what I mean).

I guess CBD is central Nairobi?

Keyboard
06-01-09, 01:19
Gentlemen:

I was wondering if someone could edify me on what is required as far as carrying identification outside one's abode. Would like to comply with the letter of the law if possible so as to avoid giving any possible excuses to a policeman in search of potential prey. (Interestingly, I noted in the Mozambique thread a chap was busted for carrying too many photocopies of his passport, that number being two.) I normally leave the passport at home and carry my U.S. driver's license only.

Any information on the actual rules would be most appreciated.

Cowperwood

Willyboy
06-01-09, 08:08
Its amazing my friends.

I registered to this site and since then I got the girls as much as I wanted.

Just posted my profile there and they came all over me non-stop after a nice and polite chat on line you can get their number and set up a date.

They are not stunners but some are real good looking.

For sure they are not working girls.

They never ask for payment. They will always wait to get some on their leave.

You should try it. It works all over AfricaThe last 3 jaers. I did meeting with more than 300 afro girls.

-this girls are more terribel about money than disco girls. But about matrial thinks. Dvd, tv, parfum, paying rent. You will losed 3 thimes more money than disco girls.

Only if you make fake with this girls. You promisd to married. Invitation to your country. Than the girl maby sleep with your for free

Evry mzungu coming to kenya with 50 phone nummers from this girls in his pokket end the girls writing with 100 mzungu in her yahoo mail.

Girls taking this system. To have anater way than disco prostitution. But with same distination. Money.

This girls will go with you from supermarket to supermarket.

If you will visit Kenya for sex. Verget this system.

The girls from afro having olso kids end this kids need schoolfees

During my last visit in Nairobi. I try to meet girl from THIKA (50km) I was sitting 3h in matatu. The girl pick not up her phone if I was in thika end the day bifore I was making appointment. If you don't now Kenya (the way) than normal meeting is inpossibel. Maby only meeting in your hotel.

Somethimes you make appointment end girls not coming. Somethimes make agreement met taxi end fake the price to 20 thimes higher than normal.

Good advies. Verget afro.

Jerulez
06-01-09, 14:32
I can go up to about 5k I would say. It depends of the quality. (would prefer a swimming pool, but it's not the most important thing) What I am looking for is a place where girls can come and go without anyone noticing/caring (no family hotel/place if you understand what I mean).

I guess CBD is central Nairobi?Yeah. CBD is central business district. Most hotels in the CBD are quite expensive and the cheap ones are horrible. Those with swimming pools are quite pricey. I'd advice you to book a cheap hotel and then go to a hotel with a swimming pool in the afternoon where you can also eat your lunch.

Ngara is like nairobi's red light district. So no-one will really bother who you bring to your room - infact they'd be quite surprised if you sleep by yourself. My pick would be seldom hotel on muranga road in ngara. Its cheap (£35 per night, double bed), hot electric showers, clean, restaurant and its a 10 minute drive from the city. A cabbie should charge you about 300-500ksh to get there.


When kenya visiters will andestand that kenya workers (90 procent from workers) have only 3to 5 dollar /day.300 to 500 kes/day. One man in florida told my that Hi pay 800kes/full night. Hi ask my. Howmatch for you. I say maby 2000kes. His answer. You must by one miljoenaer end you distroy the market prices. O. K guys.2000kes/full night. This is the price for mzungu. If you pay more. You make market prices end. Wath girls asking is not inportent. Kenya persons ask for evry servis 3thimes tomatch for mzungu. If taximan say 1000kes.300kes will by enough. Al kenya persons is bizzy with this for evry servis. For kenya persons. Mzungu is ATM machine.Willyboy,

First of all, your claim that 90% of kenyans 3-5 dollars is false!! I don't know where you pull your facts from.

Second of all, just because someone earns a little money doesn't mean that you should squeeze them more by paying less. Sure, almost everything is to be bargained for in kenya but you must have a sense of humanism and understand that you may be the only client that day for a porter or cab driver. If a cabbie tells me 1000 kshs, i might ask them to knock off 200 and we settle at 900. You have to remember that he has to survive and that many things such as education and healthcare have to be paid for unlike in europe.

Member #4379
06-01-09, 16:54
Greetings:

I will be coming to Nairobi for 1 month in September. I would like to find a hotel that would offer a discount if one stays for a month and puts all the money upfront or at least each week in advance in cash. If anyone knows of the name and phone number of hotels that would be willing to give a discount of under $500 u.s. per month like this please let send me a PM or posting. The Terminal Hotel offers rooms at 1900 k per night but I can't reach them on the phone to see if they would offer a discount. I'm assuming a discount is possible since rooms could be vacant and they get nothing but this assumption might be wrong. As for apartments, most expect at least 2 months payment upfront so that's out of the question but let me know if you know of any apartments that might accept 1 month payment instead of having the apartment vacant for 1 month.

Thanks.

Interracial

Hesekiels
06-01-09, 17:46
Its amazing my friends.

For sure they are not working girls...They never ask for payment - they will always wait to get some on their leave...




Zamziv:

and how much did you finally pay when they left?

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Willyboy
06-01-09, 19:07
Zamziv:

and how much did you finally pay when they left?

Cheers!

HesekielsWorkinggirls are more hungry for money than disco girls This girls cost more about supermarket than one girl from disco Pay to the point. By not bizzy with girls from datingsite.

Evry person in Kenya is hungry about money. Workinggirls are not special Only love is for free. All the rest. More money. More money.

Willyboy
06-01-09, 20:34
Yeah. CBD is central business district. Most hotels in the CBD are quite expensive and the cheap ones are horrible. Those with swimming pools are quite pricey. I'd advice you to book a cheap hotel and then go to a hotel with a swimming pool in the afternoon where you can also eat your lunch.

Ngara is like nairobi's red light district. So no-one will really bother who you bring to your room. Infact they'd be quite surprised if you sleep by yourself. My pick would be seldom hotel on muranga road in ngara. Its cheap (£35 per night, double bed), hot electric showers, clean, restaurant and its a 10 minute drive from the city. A cabbie should charge you about 300-500ksh to get there.

Willyboy,

First of all, your claim that 90% of kenyans 3-5 dollars is false! I don't know where you pull your facts from.

Second of all, just because someone earns a little money doesn't mean that you should squeeze them more by paying less. Sure, almost everything is to be bargained for in kenya but you must have a sense of humanism and understand that you may be the only client that day for a porter or cab driver. If a cabbie tells me 1000 kshs, I might ask them to knock off 200 and we settle at 900. You have to remember that he has to survive and that many things such as education and healthcare have to be paid for unlike in europe.After 19 visits in Kenya in last 3 jaers. I laern mutch

If I am in Kenya. Than I will pay Kenya prices. Evry price wath mzungu ask in Kenya is minumum 66 procent overpriced. National sport from Kenya persons to mzungus. Only in nakumatt supermarkt. Al is ok. Not possibel to buy newspaper for the kenya prices. Not one waiter give you money back after paying the bill. About taxi. Ok 1500kes from airport. It will by 1200kes. But about salery 3 to 5 dollar for persons without diplome About 10.000kes/month

I will not sitting 8h in aircraft end pay lot of money for my tiket end hotel end than prices like in EU. This type of discussion coming very often end never have good end. I will give 10 procent tipmoney for all my bills. But this is the limit for my.

Keyboard
06-02-09, 03:20
Greetings:

I will be coming to Nairobi for 1 month in September. I would like to find a hotel that would offer a discount if one stays for a month and puts all the money upfront or at least each week in advance in cash. If anyone knows of the name and phone number of hotels that would be willing to give a discount of under $500 u.s. per month like this please let send me a PM or posting. The Terminal Hotel offers rooms at 1900 k per night but I can't reach them on the phone to see if they would offer a discount. I'm assuming a discount is possible since rooms could be vacant and they get nothing but this assumption might be wrong. As for apartments, most expect at least 2 months payment upfront so that's out of the question but let me know if you know of any apartments that might accept 1 month payment instead of having the apartment vacant for 1 month.

Thanks.

InterracialFor what it's worth, my experience with an apartment is consistent with your view: a couple months' deposit upfront. In addition, it was difficult to get the deposit back when I left. Finally did, but had to work like mad.

Jamjam222
06-02-09, 15:32
Yeah. CBD is central business district. Most hotels in the CBD are quite expensive and the cheap ones are horrible. Those with swimming pools are quite pricey. I'd advice you to book a cheap hotel and then go to a hotel with a swimming pool in the afternoon where you can also eat your lunch.

Ngara is like nairobi's red light district. So no-one will really bother who you bring to your room - infact they'd be quite surprised if you sleep by yourself. My pick would be seldom hotel on muranga road in ngara. Its cheap (£35 per night, double bed), hot electric showers, clean, restaurant and its a 10 minute drive from the city. A cabbie should charge you about 300-500ksh to get there.Thanks for the tip! You stated previously that you knew of a good place. Mind sharing the name of the hotel?

Still interested in trying out an apartment, so if anyone have any opinions about this it would be much appreciated :)

Member #4379
06-02-09, 21:48
Thanks for that. I guess my only other option is to see if a hotel like Terminal is willing to give me a discount if I pay a month upfront and they know that some rooms may be vacant. If they are at 100% capacity everyday then I'm 'toast'. Let me know if you know of any hotels that are willing to give a discount if you pay a month upfront or, even better, pay just a week at a time upfront.

Jerulez
06-02-09, 23:42
After 19 visits in Kenya in last 3 jaers. I laern mutch

If I am in Kenya. Than I will pay Kenya prices. Evry price wath mzungu ask in Kenya is minumum 66 procent overpriced. National sport from Kenya persons to mzungus. Only in nakumatt supermarkt. Al is ok. Not possibel to buy newspaper for the kenya prices. Not one waiter give you money back after paying the bill. About taxi. Ok 1500kes from airport. It will by 1200kes. But about salery 3 to 5 dollar for persons without diplome About 10.000kes/month

I will not sitting 8h in aircraft end pay lot of money for my tiket end hotel end than prices like in EU. This type of discussion coming very often end never have good end. I will give 10 procent tipmoney for all my bills. But this is the limit for my.You stated that 90% of kenyan people earn 10,000 Kshs. That sir, is a lie. In Jay-Z's words 'We don't believe you, you need more people'

Secondly, you base your experience on 19 visits in 3 years. I base my experience on 18 years of living in kenya. Everyone irrespective of their race will receive an inflated price. They call it 'bei ya kuongea' which is 'price that is to be negotiated'. Undercutting a seller and forcing him to receive less than 60% of what he asks for is nothing short of evil. Normal custom is to ask for a 20-30% price cut.

Jamjam,

The hotel is called seldom hotel and its on muranga road. There are also a couple of decent hotels on muranga road. Other hotels below:


Impala hotel
http://www.travellerspoint.com/accommodation/9896-Impala-Hotel/

Mooreland hotel (in ngara)
http://www.travellerspoint.com/accommodation/9902-Mooreland-Hotel/

Willyboy
06-03-09, 07:35
You stated that 90% of kenyan people earn 10,000 Kshs. That sir, is a lie. In Jay-Z's words 'We don't believe you, you need more people'

Secondly, you base your experience on 19 visits in 3 years. I base my experience on 18 years of living in kenya. Everyone irrespective of their race will receive an inflated price. They call it 'bei ya kuongea' which is 'price that is to be negotiated'. Undercutting a seller and forcing him to receive less than 60% of what he asks for is nothing short of evil. Normal custom is to ask for a 20-30% price cut.

Jamjam,

The hotel is called seldom hotel and its on muranga road. There are also a couple of decent hotels on muranga road. Other hotels below:

Impala hotel
http://www.travellerspoint.com/accommodation/9896-Impala-Hotel/

Mooreland hotel (in ngara)
http://www.travellerspoint.com/accommodation/9902-Mooreland-Hotel/I am not surpriced that you write if person 18 jaers living in kenya ...you becaim same blod

Member #4379
06-03-09, 17:07
Would it be correct to say that both of you have valid points? That is, a tourist that is not familiar with the local prices will negotiate and agree to a price much higher that what a local may pay. It is only good business for the seller to get the highest price they can get. But if this tourist knows what the local price is (e.g. apartments in Nairobi DO rent for 300 to 400 u.s. per month) then a landlord who tries to get a rent over 400 u.s. is over-charging, whether that person is a local or tourist, not so?

In Ghana if I didn't have a local negotiating in my absence I always was overcharged but, in the end, once I knew the local price I would just give it to him without any questions. Not sure how safe that is in Nairobi but in Accra I never had any violent reactions, only verbal complaining in front of my Ghanaian wife.

Willyboy
06-03-09, 17:19
Would it be correct to say that both of you have valid points? That is, a tourist that is not familiar with the local prices will negotiate and agree to a price much higher that what a local may pay. It is only good business for the seller to get the highest price they can get. But if this tourist knows what the local price is (e.g. apartments in Nairobi DO rent for 300 to 400 u.s. per month) then a landlord who tries to get a rent over 400 u.s. is over-charging, whether that person is a local or tourist, not so?

In Ghana if I didn't have a local negotiating in my absence I always was overcharged but, in the end, once I knew the local price I would just give it to him without any questions. Not sure how safe that is in Nairobi but in Accra I never had any violent reactions, only verbal complaining in front of my Ghanaian wife.Kibaki end riali. Salery. More than 20.000 EURO/month. But look KIBERA SLUMS. Many persons can not pay 10 euro for smal roof.

Jamjam222
06-03-09, 22:32
I discovered this beautiful web application. It's a map of Nairobi (or anyone else you type) and show the exact location of everything of interest in Nairobi.

Including.

Wait for it.

A little longer.

Brothels! Unbelievable! Really helpful and not only for mongering purposes.

Question: If I stay at a hotel without pool, will I be able to use pool at other hotels?

Jerulez
06-04-09, 02:29
Would it be correct to say that both of you have valid points? That is, a tourist that is not familiar with the local prices will negotiate and agree to a price much higher that what a local may pay. It is only good business for the seller to get the highest price they can get. But if this tourist knows what the local price is (e.g. apartments in Nairobi DO rent for 300 to 400 u.s. per month) then a landlord who tries to get a rent over 400 u.s. is over-charging, whether that person is a local or tourist, not so?

In Ghana if I didn't have a local negotiating in my absence I always was overcharged but, in the end, once I knew the local price I would just give it to him without any questions. Not sure how safe that is in Nairobi but in Accra I never had any violent reactions, only verbal complaining in front of my Ghanaian wife.I've seen some of the prices that willyboy is talking about and quite frankly, they're about the same prices i know locals receive. For instance, a nairobi local can get charged up to 2000kshs for a ST by a pro in simmers/madhouse/florida. If you're a regular, you might get 1000kshs. In the outskirts of the city, you'll get ST for 300-500kshs but the girls aren't skilled, are older, are from the countryside and are sorely lacking in the looks department - so its your choice.

Willyboy argues that since the effective minimum wage is $5 per day (since he works in Kenya statistics board) then the kenyan pros should ideally receive $5 - $10. Thats like me going to see a pro here in the UK who usually charge £70 for a 30 min session and demanding that she lower her price to £10 because the national minimum wage is £5.80.

Im all for bargaining. But Im also human. So I wouldn't want to sqeeze a poor person to the point that it becomes futile for them to operate. These pros aren't trying to buy gucci shoes or crack like the european ones.They're simply trying to eat and pay rent.

Willyboy on the other hand seems intent to be the german darth vader

Willyboy
06-04-09, 08:20
I've seen some of the prices that willyboy is talking about and quite frankly, they're about the same prices i know locals receive. For instance, a nairobi local can get charged up to 2000kshs for a ST by a pro in simmers / madhouse/florida. If you're a regular, you might get 1000kshs. In the outskirts of the city, you'll get ST for 300-500kshs but the girls aren't skilled, are older, are from the countryside and are sorely lacking in the looks department - so its your choice.

Willyboy argues that since the effective minimum wage is $5 per day (since he works in Kenya statistics board) then the kenyan pros should ideally receive $5 - $10. Thats like me going to see a pro here in the UK who usually charge £70 for a 30 min session and demanding that she lower her price to £10 because the national minimum wage is £5.80.

Im all for bargaining. But Im also human. So I wouldn't want to sqeeze a poor person to the point that it becomes futile for them to operate. These pros aren't trying to buy gucci shoes or crack like the european ones.They're simply trying to eat and pay rent.

Willyboy on the other hand seems intent to be the german darth vaderMy friend. I am not from Germany.

You can not compare EU prices end services in EU end Kenya. Big misthake. To start explain this for you. I will not invest my thime end you will never andestand.

Enzo 2009
06-04-09, 17:45
After 19 visits in Kenya in last 3 jaers. I laern mutch

If I am in Kenya. Than I will pay Kenya prices. Evry price wath mzungu ask in Kenya is minumum 66 procent overpriced. National sport from Kenya persons to mzungus. Only in nakumatt supermarkt. Al is ok. Not possibel to buy newspaper for the kenya prices. Not one waiter give you money back after paying the bill. About taxi. Ok 1500kes from airport. It will by 1200kes. But about salery 3 to 5 dollar for persons without diplome About 10.000kes/month

I will not sitting 8h in aircraft end pay lot of money for my tiket end hotel end than prices like in EU. This type of discussion coming very often end never have good end. I will give 10 procent tipmoney for all my bills. But this is the limit for my.Not just Mzungus Willy boy, anybody who is percieved to be well off financially is 'national sport'. So you can include the Asians, Africans and Arabs who are not as street wise as you are. The most expensive women however are the wives. In some countries she can legally take off with half your property while you watch. I dont think Kenyan women in general have reached there yet.

Willyboy
06-04-09, 20:42
Not just Mzungus Willy boy, anybody who is percieved to be well off financially is 'national sport'. So you can include the Asians, Africans and Arabs who are not as street wise as you are. The most expensive women however are the wives. In some countries she can legally take off with half your property while you watch. I dont think Kenyan women in general have reached there yet.I must say. Agry

In 1995 my ex wife was not thaking half. But all. Only my underwaer not. Maby I was playing tomutch

Jamjam222
06-04-09, 21:36
I discovered this beautiful web application. It's a map of Nairobi (or anyone else you type) and show the exact location of everything of interest in Nairobi.

Including.

Wait for it.

A little longer.

Brothels! Unbelievable! Really helpful and not only for mongering purposes.

Question: If I stay at a hotel without pool, will I be able to use pool at other hotels?I posted a link with this post I think. Will try again.

http://wikimapia.org/#lat=-1.2821176&lon=36.8233716&z=17&l=0&m=a&v=2&search=nairobi%20clubs

Rwenotmen
06-05-09, 11:04
Ok, to turn away from a pissing match about economics and to return the thread to what we can all agree on. Monger-hunting!

I live in Nairobi NOW, have been here for 3 months, and will be here for at least one year. I work right smack in centre of town. In the area just east of Moi Ave, behind the National Archives building.

I am offering to the ISG/another forum communities my on-the-ground, eyewitness accounts of life and especially mongering in NBO. Post your questions/comments and I'll try to follow 'them up. I can't promise the quickest response, as I actually have a daily job and Internet access can be tricky here, but I'll do my best.

I do not live the true expat lifestyle (we could discuss what this means in a separate thread), as I commute to work/home via matatus, I work ONLY with the average jane/joe Kenyans, I eat, sleep and party with mostly Kenyans, and I live in area (near Kangemi) with 99.9% Kenyans. I have lived & worked in Kenya before--again at the grassroots level--so there's (few things) nothing you can tell me that I haven't personally experienced, seen or heard about life in Kenya at all stratas of economic or social.

Back to the fun. I see lovely ladies every single day especially around my work neighborhood, and in 3 months have had more p*ssy than in 3 years in NYC, in 2 cases for "free" (better to say, "for services 'in-kind').-plus I have a regular girlfriend! Yes, non-pro's ARE "easy" to get here if you're a foreigner.- and w/o having to 'compensate' at wazungu rates-- but there are a few approaches to use to keep yourself safe, and to reduce/prevent situations where the lady either is growing annoying, or falls "in love" (I. E. Wants you to take her to the West). My hope is that we'll all discuss workable methods as this thread grows.

I'll start, in a separate post.

Rwenotmen
06-05-09, 13:24
I was thinking about how the tourist-mongerer, with only limited time, could actually hook up with a Kenyan lady who : gasp: actually has to work everyday. As a working-stiff myself, I follow this approach and it has been working for me:

- Let's shape the scenario that you're in Nairobi (but all advice applies in towns and cities in Kenya), strolling around, on the monger-hunt. You see a lady you're interested in and you want to start the chase.

- First advice, the Golden Rule, at least in Kenya, it's been written many times before: you have to treat the average Kenyan lady as if she is or will be your girlfriend.

You just wanna fuck? Go to F2 or even Simmers. Otherwise, keep the philosophy GFE = Girl-friendly Experience. Even walaya are 'saved' on Sundays!

This applies to the ladies who work in offices, to the college students, to that (probable high-school drop-out) sweety who works in a little shop. Even simple shop girls are either educated or worldly enough to know about how Sex 'in' The City works, and even if they don't have a lot of personal experience in that area (and you will find many that are not, no matter how sexy they look), they are curious and often eager to experiment. So this means you have to be nice, flirt, tell her jokes get her to laugh. Show her your interest, and she will notice quickly.

- In general.

Ensure the lady is alone. You don't wanna have to subsidies her and her friends. Remember, you're a hunter, separate your prey from the pack!

It's easiest to meet a lady in the shop/office/etc than on the street, as this assures you that she's actually employeed and (hopefully) a non-pro. Plus, it gives her a comfort zone in which to talk with you.

Remember that she's actually working, so make your moves quickly and politely. Don't ask her for a date right there, especially if co-workers or boss is around. Don't co-opt her time from other customers, just wait to the side patiently, let her finish her work, then keep flirting. Your hanging round assures her that you are interested. If it is obvious she's not interested, just move on. I once had a girl start spouting religious nonsense, I quickly got outta there. As a hunter, you can't wait time!

- Next step, make up some excuse to get her mobile number--as quickly as possible. This way, you can start 'chatting her up' and hopefully soon making rendezvous. Two techniques I've used.

-- I was flirting with a worker in a restaurant, and she was definitely responding. I happen to notice they had those useless customer response surveys. I filled it out--with my mobile number!. And gave it directly to the lady, and told her to call me so I could discuss "other comments" I had about my dining experience. Now she didn't call me {more about that in the next item}, so next day I went to the restaurant, found her, told her that because she didn't call me, she had to give me her number so that I could call her. She did not hestitate in giving me her number, and a hook-up was completed in just a few days.

-- I was in a cybercafe and saw a real stunner. She wasn't working there but she was alone. I waited a bit then switched my station to sit next to her. After a minute, I said Hello, to her, and asked her if she could give me advice about pictures I had on Flickr of my home back in NYC. To a Kenyan: (Foreigner + Western home)=Jackpot. To us monger-hunters: (Stunner + pictures of home in the West)=Trap-Set-Captured. This meeting lead to a soda and some small talk, her number, and that Friday a nice at-home hook-up.

- Something important to remember about phone calls, be prepared to do most of the calling and texting. Kenyans/Africans are always trying to save money, so as the mzungu you have to initiate & make most calls. And get someone to explain to you what "flashing" means!

- Don't let the girl play games with you: If you call/SMS her and she doesn't pick up after 2 separate calls/texts, then dump her and move on to another lady. A girl not taking your call means she's shy, actually not interested, or she may be more of a pro than you expected. You don't have time for shyness or game-playing, so move on.

- Once you do reach her, plan a PUBLIC place rendezvous. This will allow both you and her to feel a bit safe, and to get to know each other a bit better.

Be prepared for her to be late--hey, this is Africa.

If she doesn't show up at all, say give her an hour, she is dumped.

- If she arrives with a friend or two or more, dump her: this is game-playing, or shyness, and we don't have time for this.

When you see her and her posse coming closer, jump up, greet her, and give this excuse: "Hi! Ohh, I'm so sorry I just got this call and am needed right away elsewhere. Can I call you to arrange another date? " If she asks for money anyway (and this will happen), refuse by giving some excuse, then leave.

Now you have a choice: call her later and arrange another meeting, but tell her to come alone; or don't call her at all, just proceed to the next monger-prey. Believe me brothers, there is more booty to be had elsewhere!

If she wants to go with you--meaning she doesn't want to lose a good thing!. Tell her you only have room for her! Then take her to your place, and make your moves.-game-playing works both ways, you know!

- DO NOT spend money like a Westerner on ANY Kenyan lady. I don't care if she's lived in the West before, has a PhD, has a Chicago accent, and dresses and acts like a Westerner. You have been warned about this many times on these forums, so I'm also repeating this. No steak dinners, no wine bars, definitely NOT Carnivore, on the first date!

Kenyan ladies, in general, do not appreciate the wine-&-dine approach to romance as we know it in the West, and if you meet one that expects that, run away. Fast.

Instead, meet in "simple" places for meals, coffee or drinks, or better let her pick a place but stress that you want to go where "normal" or "average" Kenyans go. There are plenty of great and fun places where the prices are just right, and you'll learn about new places in Nairobi/Kenya that you can then brag about later as getting the true Kenya non-tourist experience.

Side-note: stay aware and stay safe about your surroundings. Wherever you go, watch your belongings, put your wallet in your front pocket, don't flash your cash, don't take your eye off your drink or glass no matter how comfy you feel, don't go to an area where you have concern for safety. If you're worried, just ask her to choose another place. She'll be happy to, as she's probably not sure what kind of local places wazungu would like.

Remember, the ladies we're talking about here are your average-janes, non-pros, so you won't have to worry too much about a con or scam, but still you might draw a short straw so watch out.

- Finally, this first rendezvous, she must agree to meet you either at your place, or hers, for the next rendezvous--or she gets dumped.

This is another reason why you shouldn't spend a lot of money: you don't want to waste your time or money with a game-player.

At some stage in your conversations, suggest that she comes to your place. To see your pictures of home, or to watch an interesting movie, or to cook sphagetti for her. Or. To see her home, or to watch a movie at her place, or to teach her and her {insert relatives/friends/etc} how to play cards. Or whatever. Whatever the reason, that next meeting is going get her into bed--and she knows it!

If she agrees, you're in.-literally.

If she rejects, move on.

If she hesitates, push a little more but be prepared to move on.

There we are boys, Life of a Monger-Hunter. Discuss amongst ourselves.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Concarne
06-05-09, 18:19
I was wondering where Ngara is in relation to the CBD?

TIA

Loso69
06-05-09, 23:00
I was wondering where Ngara is in relation to the CBD?

Here's your answer.


For those unfamiliar with Ngara, its about half a mile from downtown Nairobi, adjacent to Parklands.

Loso

Jerulez
06-06-09, 02:26
I was thinking about how the tourist-mongerer, with only limited time, could actually hook up with a Kenyan lady who : gasp: actually has to work everyday. As a working-stiff myself, I follow this approach and it has been working for me:

- Let's shape the scenario that you're in Nairobi (but all advice applies in towns and cities in Kenya), strolling around, on the monger-hunt. You see a lady you're interested in and you want to start the chase.

- First advice, the Golden Rule, at least in Kenya, it's been written many times before: you have to treat the average Kenyan lady as if she is or will be your girlfriend.

You just wanna fuck? Go to F2 or even Simmers. Otherwise, keep the philosophy GFE = Girl-friendly Experience. Even walaya are 'saved' on Sundays!

This applies to the ladies who work in offices, to the college students, to that (probable high-school drop-out) sweety who works in a little shop. Even simple shop girls are either educated or worldly enough to know about how Sex 'in' The City works, and even if they don't have a lot of personal experience in that area (and you will find many that are not, no matter how sexy they look), they are curious and often eager to experiment. So this means you have to be nice, flirt, tell her jokes get her to laugh. Show her your interest, and she will notice quickly.

- In general.

Ensure the lady is alone. You don't wanna have to subsidies her and her friends. Remember, you're a hunter, separate your prey from the pack!

It's easiest to meet a lady in the shop/office/etc than on the street, as this assures you that she's actually employeed and (hopefully) a non-pro. Plus, it gives her a comfort zone in which to talk with you.

Remember that she's actually working, so make your moves quickly and politely. Don't ask her for a date right there, especially if co-workers or boss is around. Don't co-opt her time from other customers, just wait to the side patiently, let her finish her work, then keep flirting. Your hanging round assures her that you are interested. If it is obvious she's not interested, just move on. I once had a girl start spouting religious nonsense, I quickly got outta there. As a hunter, you can't wait time!

- Next step, make up some excuse to get her mobile number--as quickly as possible. This way, you can start 'chatting her up' and hopefully soon making rendezvous. Two techniques I've used.

-- I was flirting with a worker in a restaurant, and she was definitely responding. I happen to notice they had those useless customer response surveys. I filled it out--with my mobile number!. And gave it directly to the lady, and told her to call me so I could discuss "other comments" I had about my dining experience. Now she didn't call me {more about that in the next item}, so next day I went to the restaurant, found her, told her that because she didn't call me, she had to give me her number so that I could call her. She did not hestitate in giving me her number, and a hook-up was completed in just a few days.

-- I was in a cybercafe and saw a real stunner. She wasn't working there but she was alone. I waited a bit then switched my station to sit next to her. After a minute, I said Hello, to her, and asked her if she could give me advice about pictures I had on Flickr of my home back in NYC. To a Kenyan: (Foreigner + Western home)=Jackpot. To us monger-hunters: (Stunner + pictures of home in the West)=Trap-Set-Captured. This meeting lead to a soda and some small talk, her number, and that Friday a nice at-home hook-up.

- Something important to remember about phone calls, be prepared to do most of the calling and texting. Kenyans/Africans are always trying to save money, so as the mzungu you have to initiate & make most calls. And get someone to explain to you what "flashing" means!

- Don't let the girl play games with you: If you call/SMS her and she doesn't pick up after 2 separate calls/texts, then dump her and move on to another lady. A girl not taking your call means she's shy, actually not interested, or she may be more of a pro than you expected. You don't have time for shyness or game-playing, so move on.

- Once you do reach her, plan a PUBLIC place rendezvous. This will allow both you and her to feel a bit safe, and to get to know each other a bit better.

Be prepared for her to be late--hey, this is Africa.

If she doesn't show up at all, say give her an hour, she is dumped.

- If she arrives with a friend or two or more, dump her: this is game-playing, or shyness, and we don't have time for this.

When you see her and her posse coming closer, jump up, greet her, and give this excuse: "Hi! Ohh, I'm so sorry I just got this call and am needed right away elsewhere. Can I call you to arrange another date? " If she asks for money anyway (and this will happen), refuse by giving some excuse, then leave.

Now you have a choice: call her later and arrange another meeting, but tell her to come alone; or don't call her at all, just proceed to the next monger-prey. Believe me brothers, there is more booty to be had elsewhere!

If she wants to go with you--meaning she doesn't want to lose a good thing!. Tell her you only have room for her! Then take her to your place, and make your moves.-game-playing works both ways, you know!

- DO NOT spend money like a Westerner on ANY Kenyan lady. I don't care if she's lived in the West before, has a PhD, has a Chicago accent, and dresses and acts like a Westerner. You have been warned about this many times on these forums, so I'm also repeating this. No steak dinners, no wine bars, definitely NOT Carnivore, on the first date!

Kenyan ladies, in general, do not appreciate the wine-&-dine approach to romance as we know it in the West, and if you meet one that expects that, run away. Fast.

Instead, meet in "simple" places for meals, coffee or drinks, or better let her pick a place but stress that you want to go where "normal" or "average" Kenyans go. There are plenty of great and fun places where the prices are just right, and you'll learn about new places in Nairobi/Kenya that you can then brag about later as getting the true Kenya non-tourist experience.

Side-note: stay aware and stay safe about your surroundings. Wherever you go, watch your belongings, put your wallet in your front pocket, don't flash your cash, don't take your eye off your drink or glass no matter how comfy you feel, don't go to an area where you have concern for safety. If you're worried, just ask her to choose another place. She'll be happy to, as she's probably not sure what kind of local places wazungu would like.

Remember, the ladies we're talking about here are your average-janes, non-pros, so you won't have to worry too much about a con or scam, but still you might draw a short straw so watch out.

- Finally, this first rendezvous, she must agree to meet you either at your place, or hers, for the next rendezvous--or she gets dumped.

This is another reason why you shouldn't spend a lot of money: you don't want to waste your time or money with a game-player.

At some stage in your conversations, suggest that she comes to your place. To see your pictures of home, or to watch an interesting movie, or to cook sphagetti for her. Or. To see her home, or to watch a movie at her place, or to teach her and her {insert relatives/friends/etc} how to play cards. Or whatever. Whatever the reason, that next meeting is going get her into bed--and she knows it!

If she agrees, you're in.-literally.

If she rejects, move on.

If she hesitates, push a little more but be prepared to move on.

There we are boys, Life of a Monger-Hunter. Discuss amongst ourselves.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.You got a few things on point. But some are way off

First off all, you can't really generalize kenyan women and lump them into one category. Her mannerisms and expectations will always be reflective of her class and upbringing. If a girl is from a working class background (east nairobi), then she might not expect to be wined and dined.

But then again of she's from an affluent background (west/north nairobi), expect to pay through the nose. Remember houses in kileleshwa, ridgeways, spring valley, muthaiga etc go for well in excess of $250K. And its black kenyans who live here. And a girl from here is likely to be educated in an expensive private school. I've dated girls like these and many times if you don't have a car and a nice job, you'll be discarded like yesterdays newspaper. Infact many times, they may have more money than you. I know kenyan girls who get like $1000+ per month from their rich daddies. So your chump change isn't going to dazzle them.

Don't believe me? Go hunting in these clubs: pavement, club mercury, tamambo, bar code (all in westlands) and then come back and do a report. Last summer I was in kenya with a pal of mine from the UK. We were at pavement and he was telling this girl how he was a big deal back home (he thought it would be the typical poor african girl falls for rich westerner scenario). She smiled but walked away. We came out at the same time and whaddaya know? She steps into the driver's side of a sleek Merc CL500. The look on my boy's face. PRICELESS! LOL

Willyboy
06-06-09, 08:05
I was thinking about how the tourist-mongerer, with only limited time, could actually hook up with a Kenyan lady who : gasp: actually has to work everyday. As a working-stiff myself, I follow this approach and it has been working for me:

- Let's shape the scenario that you're in Nairobi (but all advice applies in towns and cities in Kenya), strolling around, on the monger-hunt. You see a lady you're interested in and you want to start the chase.

- First advice, the Golden Rule, at least in Kenya, it's been written many times before: you have to treat the average Kenyan lady as if she is or will be your girlfriend.

You just wanna fuck? Go to F2 or even Simmers. Otherwise, keep the philosophy GFE = Girl-friendly Experience. Even walaya are 'saved' on Sundays!

This applies to the ladies who work in offices, to the college students, to that (probable high-school drop-out) sweety who works in a little shop. Even simple shop girls are either educated or worldly enough to know about how Sex 'in' The City works, and even if they don't have a lot of personal experience in that area (and you will find many that are not, no matter how sexy they look), they are curious and often eager to experiment. So this means you have to be nice, flirt, tell her jokes get her to laugh. Show her your interest, and she will notice quickly.

- In general.

Ensure the lady is alone. You don't wanna have to subsidies her and her friends. Remember, you're a hunter, separate your prey from the pack!

It's easiest to meet a lady in the shop/office/etc than on the street, as this assures you that she's actually employeed and (hopefully) a non-pro. Plus, it gives her a comfort zone in which to talk with you.

Remember that she's actually working, so make your moves quickly and politely. Don't ask her for a date right there, especially if co-workers or boss is around. Don't co-opt her time from other customers, just wait to the side patiently, let her finish her work, then keep flirting. Your hanging round assures her that you are interested. If it is obvious she's not interested, just move on. I once had a girl start spouting religious nonsense, I quickly got outta there. As a hunter, you can't wait time!

- Next step, make up some excuse to get her mobile number--as quickly as possible. This way, you can start 'chatting her up' and hopefully soon making rendezvous. Two techniques I've used.

-- I was flirting with a worker in a restaurant, and she was definitely responding. I happen to notice they had those useless customer response surveys. I filled it out--with my mobile number!. And gave it directly to the lady, and told her to call me so I could discuss "other comments" I had about my dining experience. Now she didn't call me {more about that in the next item}, so next day I went to the restaurant, found her, told her that because she didn't call me, she had to give me her number so that I could call her. She did not hestitate in giving me her number, and a hook-up was completed in just a few days.

-- I was in a cybercafe and saw a real stunner. She wasn't working there but she was alone. I waited a bit then switched my station to sit next to her. After a minute, I said Hello, to her, and asked her if she could give me advice about pictures I had on Flickr of my home back in NYC. To a Kenyan: (Foreigner + Western home)=Jackpot. To us monger-hunters: (Stunner + pictures of home in the West)=Trap-Set-Captured. This meeting lead to a soda and some small talk, her number, and that Friday a nice at-home hook-up.

- Something important to remember about phone calls, be prepared to do most of the calling and texting. Kenyans/Africans are always trying to save money, so as the mzungu you have to initiate & make most calls. And get someone to explain to you what "flashing" means!

- Don't let the girl play games with you: If you call/SMS her and she doesn't pick up after 2 separate calls/texts, then dump her and move on to another lady. A girl not taking your call means she's shy, actually not interested, or she may be more of a pro than you expected. You don't have time for shyness or game-playing, so move on.

- Once you do reach her, plan a PUBLIC place rendezvous. This will allow both you and her to feel a bit safe, and to get to know each other a bit better.

Be prepared for her to be late--hey, this is Africa.

If she doesn't show up at all, say give her an hour, she is dumped.

- If she arrives with a friend or two or more, dump her: this is game-playing, or shyness, and we don't have time for this.

When you see her and her posse coming closer, jump up, greet her, and give this excuse: "Hi! Ohh, I'm so sorry I just got this call and am needed right away elsewhere. Can I call you to arrange another date? " If she asks for money anyway (and this will happen), refuse by giving some excuse, then leave.

Now you have a choice: call her later and arrange another meeting, but tell her to come alone; or don't call her at all, just proceed to the next monger-prey. Believe me brothers, there is more booty to be had elsewhere!

If she wants to go with you--meaning she doesn't want to lose a good thing!. Tell her you only have room for her! Then take her to your place, and make your moves.-game-playing works both ways, you know!

- DO NOT spend money like a Westerner on ANY Kenyan lady. I don't care if she's lived in the West before, has a PhD, has a Chicago accent, and dresses and acts like a Westerner. You have been warned about this many times on these forums, so I'm also repeating this. No steak dinners, no wine bars, definitely NOT Carnivore, on the first date!

Kenyan ladies, in general, do not appreciate the wine-&-dine approach to romance as we know it in the West, and if you meet one that expects that, run away. Fast.

Instead, meet in "simple" places for meals, coffee or drinks, or better let her pick a place but stress that you want to go where "normal" or "average" Kenyans go. There are plenty of great and fun places where the prices are just right, and you'll learn about new places in Nairobi/Kenya that you can then brag about later as getting the true Kenya non-tourist experience.

Side-note: stay aware and stay safe about your surroundings. Wherever you go, watch your belongings, put your wallet in your front pocket, don't flash your cash, don't take your eye off your drink or glass no matter how comfy you feel, don't go to an area where you have concern for safety. If you're worried, just ask her to choose another place. She'll be happy to, as she's probably not sure what kind of local places wazungu would like.

Remember, the ladies we're talking about here are your average-janes, non-pros, so you won't have to worry too much about a con or scam, but still you might draw a short straw so watch out.

- Finally, this first rendezvous, she must agree to meet you either at your place, or hers, for the next rendezvous--or she gets dumped.

This is another reason why you shouldn't spend a lot of money: you don't want to waste your time or money with a game-player.

At some stage in your conversations, suggest that she comes to your place. To see your pictures of home, or to watch an interesting movie, or to cook sphagetti for her. Or. To see her home, or to watch a movie at her place, or to teach her and her {insert relatives/friends/etc} how to play cards. Or whatever. Whatever the reason, that next meeting is going get her into bed--and she knows it!

If she agrees, you're in.-literally.

If she rejects, move on.

If she hesitates, push a little more but be prepared to move on.

There we are boys, Life of a Monger-Hunter. Discuss amongst ourselves.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Not verget that girls from ...you meet not in florida or simmers ...cost 3 thimes more ,not in banknotes ,but in restaurants ,matrial thinks ,paying rent .Also you will give up this girls .One person write in this forum ...PUSSY IS NEVER FOR FREE .End girls from disco is very simple to send away after braekfust .Adder girls sucking your blod to the end.

Hesekiels
06-06-09, 16:45
- DO NOT spend money like a Westerner on ANY Kenyan lady. I don't care if she's lived in the West before, has a PhD, has a Chicago accent, and dresses and acts like a Westerner. You have been warned about this many times on these forums, so I'm also repeating this. No steak dinners, no wine bars, definitely NOT Carnivore, on the first date!

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I totally agree!!! And one tiny little remark I would like to add: I tend to discourage all guys who intend to stay with one girl for longer than one day/night! If you even travel with her in Kenya it becomes quite costly! Believe you me, gentlemen, I made this mistake once!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Member #4379
06-06-09, 18:01
I agree with Hesekiels:

It's a business to them so if you stay with one she will milk you (pardon the pun if you're lucky) in more ways than one. If you can land an 18 year old and do the sex for school fees routine she could become a 'regular' but even that's tricky.

Willyboy
06-06-09, 19:50
I totally agree!!! And one tiny little remark I would like to add: I tend to discourage all guys who intend to stay with one girl for longer than one day/night! If you even travel with her in Kenya it becomes quite costly! Believe you me, gentlemen, I made this mistake once!

Cheers!

HesekielsHow to make end of relationschip after one day ..with money present or only goodbay .??I feel always bad if only goodbay. Pay for my freedom?

Loso69
06-06-09, 23:12
I just found out about the smoking ban in Kenya. You can't even smoke in the street in Nairobi? Is this ridiculous law enforced?

What's a chain smoker to do in Nairobi? Where can one still smoke?

PS
Why are smilies off in the Kenya forum? This smoking ban deserves a big, fat EEK!

Loso

Jamjam222
06-07-09, 07:35
I just found out about the smoking ban in Kenya. You can't even smoke in the street in Nairobi? Is this ridiculous law enforced?

What's a chain smoker to do in Nairobi? Where can one still smoke?

PS
Why are smilies off in the Kenya forum? This smoking ban deserves a big, fat EEK!

LosoI love the smoking regulations, so no problem for me.

There are a few restaurants and bars that have their own smoking room.

F2 has one. There is also a restaurant near F1 where you can smoke. Around the corner. They have a balcony.

I've seen other places too

Hesekiels
06-07-09, 10:35
How to make end of relationschip after one day ..with money present or only goodbay .??I feel always bad if only goodbay. Pay for my freedom?


Willyboy:

my recent approach is quite simple: I take a girl for LT from, let's say, Madhouse and pay her in the morning 2000 KHS. No 'relationship' at all and no dinner! Just one or two drinks at Madhouse for the cuty, that's all. At the end of the day it is the very best deal, at least financially! And the next day I can take another one without having any obligation or feeling bad! Play and pay, that's ok! :)

IMHO, of course!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Rwenotmen
06-07-09, 15:44
I just found out about the smoking ban in Kenya. You can't even smoke in the street in Nairobi? Is this ridiculous law enforced?

What's a chain smoker to do in Nairobi? Where can one still smoke?

PS

Why are smilies off in the Kenya forum? This smoking ban deserves a big, fat EEK!

Loso


I love the smoking regulations, so no problem for me.

There are a few restaurants and bars that have their own smoking room.

F2 has one. There is also a restaurant near F1 where you can smoke. Around the corner. They have a balcony.

I've seen other places tooYou can smoke at almost any bar, hotel or restaurant that has outdoor seating. Simmers, Kengeles (http://www.pbase.com/bmcmorrow/image/36324648), Tamara, probably Stanley... Order a soda or beer to go with your habit, and you're golden.

Rwenotmen
06-07-09, 16:22
Your experiences are relevant for the n00bs who don't know Kenya, or think that just because they're White or come from a developed country, all Kenyan women will fall into their laps.

For the rest of us, we already know the score.


You got a few things on point. But some are way off.None of my points are 'way off'. We all generalize, everyday, with every thing. People make a living out of generalizations, and world-affecting decisions are made on them.


First off all, you can't really generalize kenyan women and lump them into one category. Her mannerisms and expectations will always be reflective of her class and upbringing. If a girl is from a working class background (east nairobi), then she might not expect to be wined and dined.

I am not giving a discourse on the Sociology of Kenyan Women--I'm discussing mongering. And I don't feel that I am lumping all Kenyan women into one category. If it is misread that way, then I hereby set you straight-I am not.

What you're describing about rich girls is true about rich girls everywhere. The number of rich girls *in Kenya* getting 1000 USD per month from Daddy is probably equals to the number of rich girls getting 1000 USD per month from Daddy in {pick country of choice}. Point is, it's irrelevant to this discussion.

We're not talking about getting rich girls, we're talking about getting average girls.

You got strategies on getting rich girls? Start your own topic.

Enzo 2009
06-08-09, 12:44
Your experiences are relevant for the n00bs who don't know Kenya, or think that just because they're White or come from a developed country, all Kenyan women will fall into their laps.

For the rest of us, we already know the score.

None of my points are 'way off'. We all generalize, everyday, with every thing. People make a living out of generalizations, and world-affecting decisions are made on them.

I am not giving a discourse on the Sociology of Kenyan Women--I'm discussing mongering. And I don't feel that I am lumping all Kenyan women into one category. If it is misread that way, then I hereby set you straight-I am not.

What you're describing about rich girls is true about rich girls everywhere. The number of rich girls *in Kenya* getting 1000 USD per month from Daddy is probably equals to the number of rich girls getting 1000 USD per month from Daddy in {pick country of choice}. Point is, it's irrelevant to this discussion.

We're not talking about getting rich girls, we're talking about getting average girls.

You got strategies on getting rich girls? Start your own topic.First I'd like to thank you for your interesting report. Such effort is to be encouraged.

I think Jerulez has a point however. Your views can be intepreted to apply to all Kenyan women. I think he has made some interesting points. I know for a fact that some of those 1000usd women work as secretaries and waiters by choice. However you have correctly pointed out if they play games then dump them. Good advice I would say. We don't really need rich women, unless they are our Mothers!

Member #4379
06-08-09, 18:48
There certainly are wealthy Africans. Poor guy thought incorrectly that everyone is poor in Kenya, obviously not the case. The difference lies in the median income with greater numbers in Kenya NOT jumping into Mercs.

Hesekiels
06-08-09, 22:32
There certainly are wealthy Africans. Poor guy thought incorrectly that everyone is poor in Kenya, obviously not the case. The difference lies in the median income with greater numbers in Kenya NOT jumping into Mercs.


Interracial, that's certainly not wrong! But even a 'wealthy Kenyan girl' is not for free! For sure somehow or other we have to pay a certain price when we f**k her! Agreed?

Cheers


Hesekiels

Loso69
06-08-09, 22:56
JamJam222 & Rwenotmen,

Thanks! So I can smoke in bars & restaurants with a balcony (including mongering spots). But could you please confirm that one is not allowed to smoke in the streets of Nairobi? And that the police hands out fines for this offence?

PS
Thanks for the link to the picture gallery. Some great images! This is the Casablanca Night Club (http://www.pbase.com/bmcmorrow/image/54793039) & a sample of the talent (http://www.pbase.com/bmcmorrow/image/54793037).


Loso

Jamjam222
06-09-09, 15:44
JamJam222 & Rwenotmen,

Thanks! So I can smoke in bars & restaurants with a balcony (including mongering spots). But could you please confirm that one is not allowed to smoke in the streets of Nairobi? And that the police hands out fines for this offence?

PS
Thanks for the link to the picture gallery. Some great images! This is the Casablanca Night Club (http://www.pbase.com/bmcmorrow/image/54793039) & a sample of the talent (http://www.pbase.com/bmcmorrow/image/54793037).

LosoIf you smoke outdoors you are running a risk. I think that it is not allowed, and if so, the police if the spot you would certainly don't say no to an extra bonus from you ;)

So Casablanca still exists? A girl I spoke to this Christmas couldn't confirm this. She thought it was out of business.

If it is still open I would appreciate if someone could tell me a little about the place. Expensive? Better class chicks etc

I will be in Nairobi in late june/july if anyone fancies a beer

Jam Jam

Enzo 2009
06-09-09, 16:08
JamJam222 & Rwenotmen,

Thanks! So I can smoke in bars & restaurants with a balcony (including mongering spots). But could you please confirm that one is not allowed to smoke in the streets of Nairobi? And that the police hands out fines for this offence?

PS
Thanks for the link to the picture gallery. Some great images! This is the Casablanca Night Club (http://www.pbase.com/bmcmorrow/image/54793039) & a sample of the talent (http://www.pbase.com/bmcmorrow/image/54793037).

LosoNormally its the municipal askaris, not the regular police, who arrest even if you spit or throw litter. Soon they will be arresting jaywalkers if a new by law is passed. Cross the road at the wrong place and you are in for it.

I much prefer the laid back mombasa.

Member #4379
06-09-09, 18:15
Absolutely agree. It's called marriage where if you don't do or do that, pay for this or that, you don't get sex. What's the joke? Marriage is like prison although in prison you get regular sex.


Interracial, that's certainly not wrong! But even a 'wealthy Kenyan girl' is not for free! For sure somehow or other we have to pay a certain price when we f**k her! Agreed?

Cheers


Hesekiels

Hesekiels
06-09-09, 21:41
Absolutely agree. It's called marriage where if you don't do or do that, pay for this or that, you don't get sex. What's the joke? Marriage is like prison although in prison you get regular sex.


Interracial:

gosh, marriage would be indeed the worst case! :) I was thinking of favors like providing them with an US visa or something like that!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Professor 1
06-10-09, 04:13
Normally its the municipal askaris, not the regular police, who arrest even if you spit or throw litter. Soon they will be arresting jaywalkers if a new by law is passed. Cross the road at the wrong place and you are in for it.

I have to laugh, as this sounds like Columbus, Ohio. When a cop stopped me in graduate school, I thought that he was joking. Fortunately, he only gave me a warning. One of my classmates spent the night in jail for jaywalking, failure to obey a law enforcement officer, blocking a public road, and the like.

Gesheft
06-10-09, 06:41
I just found out about the smoking ban in Kenya. You can't even smoke in the street in Nairobi? Is this ridiculous law enforced?

What's a chain smoker to do in Nairobi? Where can one still smoke?

PS
Why are smilies off in the Kenya forum? This smoking ban deserves a big, fat EEK!

Loso

Yes this law is enforced and can be very painful.
Fines are 50,000 Kes or 6 months or both ! ie $625 !
There are some smoking points in Nairobi - next to public toilets!
Hotels have small areas set aside. Some bars & restaurants too.
My suggestion - take nicotene gum !

G

Garsom10
06-10-09, 14:43
Well guys you seem to be on the edge I happen to know of various pro brothels actually run by a mistress. You go in choose a girl and then you negotiate a price (for a single shot or a whole night). If you know Kiswahili, thy don't overcharge but if you don't, they know you're a foreigner. That's the best place and gives est service. As for no-pros, it takes time to pin one.

Loso69
06-10-09, 23:29
Yes this law is enforced and can be very painful.
Fines are 50,000 Kes or 6 months or both ! ie $625 !
There are some smoking points in Nairobi - next to public toilets!
Hotels have small areas set aside. Some bars & restaurants too.
My suggestion - take nicotene gum !

G

Thanks for the warning! But according to this article, smoking in the street is actually legal.

http://blogsofbainbridge.typepad.com/jackie/2008/11/kenyas-tobacco.html

Anyway, smoking on the street is legal in Tanzania & Uganda. I'm checking out the threads already. If Nairobi insists on pissing me off, I'll be quick to hop on a bus!

Loso

Denis1960
06-11-09, 07:42
Loso69,

You'll find spots where you can smoke, and you'll have to remember to stop in all other places, 'cause even if some law says you can, the average cop (or other law enforcment people) does not know about this, and you'll very quickly get extremely tired of arguing for hours with a brainless idiotic cop. So, you'll have to learn where you can enjoy yourself, and where you cannot. Even in the New Florida, for example, you'll have to go in the reserved smoking area (it can get crowded in there!)

Denis1960
06-13-09, 09:29
Or may be, for the ones that were compaining the classifieds had disappeared from newspapers, one may try this?

http://www.hookup.co.ke/?view=ads&catid=22&subcatid=31&cityid=1&lang=en
(there are other sections on the left)
or this? (I doubt)
www.escortskenya.com

And finaly, anyone with experience at:

http://www.kenyayoungescorts.yolasite.com/
http://www.expatriates.com/cls/5257622.html

Report would be appreciated.

Good day to all

Hesekiels
06-13-09, 16:34
My suggestion - take nicotene gum !

G


yes, or simply talk to any policeman on the road and have a fag together with him - in public of course! :)

Two weeks ago in Nairobi I was told: "You are white, so you can do whatever you like! And I am from the police, so I can do whatever I like as well! And now give me light, please!"

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Loso69
06-14-09, 20:09
Two weeks ago in Nairobi I was told: "You are white, so you can do whatever you like! And I am from the police, so I can do whatever I like as well! And now give me light, please!"

LOL!

I've read and summarized the Uganda & Tanzania threads. I'm now back to doing research on the place I actually have plane tickets to.

Unless the smoking ban makes life unbearable, I should be in Nairobi June 25-July 6. No business, just pleasure :)

Loso

Hesekiels
06-15-09, 18:31
LOL!



Unless the smoking ban makes life unbearable, I should be in Nairobi June 25-July 6. No business, just pleasure :)




Gentlemen,

just to avoid misunderstandings: no (smoking) ban can spoil your time in Kenya! You bet your life, you will always have a lot of unforgettable moments there - with or without a cigarette! :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Jamjam222
06-15-09, 20:04
LOL!

I've read and summarized the Uganda & Tanzania threads. I'm now back to doing research on the place I actually have plane tickets to.

Unless the smoking ban makes life unbearable, I should be in Nairobi June 25-July 6. No business, just pleasure :)

LosoHei mate does 69 stand for your date of birth or the position?

Loso69
06-16-09, 19:00
Hei mate does 69 stand for your date of birth or the position?

On other boards, I'm simply Loso. But a 4 character nick won't do on ISG, so I added some digits. I was born in '66, though.

Loso

Donnachaa
06-16-09, 20:23
Loso,

Am in Nairobi around the same time. Impressed with your past reports. We have a lot in common. If you would like to hook up for a beer then get back to me.

Loso69
06-17-09, 23:34
Loso,

Am in Nairobi around the same time. Impressed with your past reports. We have a lot in common. If you would like to hook up for a beer then get back to me.

Sure! But I can't send you a PM to exchange contact info. When will you arrive in Nairobi?

Loso

Jamjam222
06-18-09, 17:30
Loso,

Am in Nairobi around the same time. Impressed with your past reports. We have a lot in common. If you would like to hook up for a beer then get back to me.I am there too at that moment, and gonna meet Loso. Let me know when you are in Nairobi mate.

I'll be there the 23rd

Loso69
06-21-09, 20:30
As always, I will be travelling with an iPod & speakers, which can transform my humble abode into a VIP disco where smoking is allowed & clothes are frowned upon :)

Any suggestions for artists/albums that are a must for a trip to Kenya? African or foreign music, but easy to find & download.

Loso

Jamjam222
06-22-09, 10:47
As always, I will be travelling with an iPod & speakers, which can transform my humble abode into a VIP disco where smoking is allowed & clothes are frowned upon :)

Any suggestions for artists/albums that are a must for a trip to Kenya? African or foreign music, but easy to find & download.

Loso- Lee Fields & The Expressions - My World

- Vampire Weekend, rock with an African touch.

To start off with ;)

Jamjam222
06-22-09, 11:11
this is a list of things in nairobi that i have found interesting. things to try and places to go. most of the info are plain and simply cut from various sites on the internet, including isg.

the list is a little chaotic, but there is plenty of good advice.

most are non-mongering facts, as the mongering business are well covered on these pages.

hope there is something useful for all of you going there.

jamjam

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nairobi

hotels

- kenya comfort suites

(not the hotel) is good. very clean, spacious and safe. 3600 shillings or about $60 for a single. add 600 more for a double. no worries with your gf. and the food is great and very reasonably priced.

- ngong hills hotel could be an interesting altenative to fairview hotel. website looks nice and prices much lower than fairview hotel. ngong hills is aight. significantly lower in class than fairview so don't moan if you find that its not up to fairview standards. however it is common with old married men and their 'ndogo ndogos' (kenyan slang for mistress) so i'm guessing you'll fit in very well with the crowd

- i have found two very nice apartment hotels in nairobi, take a look on www.palacina.com and www.naturaloak.co.ke

- for your purposes why not consider kenya comfort suites. less expensive, just book a double and no worries. about 3, 600 shillings for a double.

- the hotel is called seldom hotel and its on muranga road. there are also a couple of decent hotels on muranga road. other hotels below:

impala hotel
http://www.travellerspoint.com/acco...6-impala-hotel/

mooreland hotel (in ngara)
http://www.travellerspoint.com/acco...ooreland-hotel/

- well, about appartments in westlands i suggest rhaptha road. its close to the action and there are many nice appartments for a good price.

just check liza apartments, prime apartments, glory residence apartmens, white pearls apartments. i stayed in prime apartments and glory residence apartments. they were goin for 500-600 usd per month (1 year ago).

they are both girlfriendly. at least i never experienced an problems when bringin a girl.

i am sure in the other apartments there is no problem bringin back girls too but i don't know about the prices. i guess they are 700++ usd.


restaurants, bars and clubs

- for breakfast, next to the terminal hotel is the dove cage restaurant. recommended, you get yourself the number 4 (sausage, bacon, egg, two toast and a pot of tea) 210kes

- gypses is located near the sarit center, just off of uhuru road, the casino and across from barclays.

- this pub is the ideal place to start out your evening, annie oakley's appears to be a very relaxed, laid back atmosphere, here you have numerous choices of girls annie oakleys(behind hotel salamu, heron court) cost of taxi return from central nairobi, annie oakleys
the bar man said that things get only going after 6. 30 or so.

- "klub sound" near simmers: similar crowd to choices and the dance floor is centrally located so it’s easier to pick out the fishes gyrating on the dance floor.

-"bananas" on thika road. this place is jammed packed with the united states international university (usiu) crowd on friday and saturdays.

- tropez" in the town center: working class crowd. very hot chics, but be prepared to buy ‘expensive’ drinks

- "choices bar" on baricho road near the nyayo stadium round-about; this place has plenty of the working class ‘in-crowd’ and also the upper class poseurs. the place is always jam-packed especially on fridays and saturdays

- dinner at kengele`s pub & restaurant in koinange st - nothing to write home about, soup, fish burger and salads, also like my ice cream, chocolate! all for just short of 800kes. incidentally a beer (tusker, castle, windhoek lager) averages out at 130kes, cheap i say

- i spent both my wednesday evenings at carnivore and thoroughly enjoyed myself

- on the k1 versus florida question, i have been to k1 and the madhouse, but neither of the either. k1 has pool tables and lots of little cubby hole areas. its generally more intimate and relaxed. madhouse is a like a football pitch and you have to shout to be heard, especially later in the night. in madhouse you will get the more professional type. some are very nice looking. if you want a wide choice and to leave after 15 minutes with someone then madhouse is the place. k1, on the other hand is more of a pub than a club, but very nice and plenty of distractions should you get unwanted attention. on a good night in nairobi i'd plan for either k1 or the pavement first and see how you go. i agree with your freinds opinion. if nothing of interest then head off to madhouse for last orders. just mind how drunk they've got before then!

- the pavement. we'd call it a gastro-pub here in the uk. does good food but you can also watch sports on tv and get hammered on tuskers. plenty of jungus and expats of all sorts. the women here. of all sorts. do regard themselves as higher class

- if you like african music try club afrique next to the national museum on museum hill just about 5 minutes from the town center. very nice looking place with a lot of pretty "real" girls, but here you have to dance that's why a lot of them come here. next door is another pretty place called galileo, which is more for the yuppies of nairobi. but it also attracts a lot of the young chicks.

- madhouse: daily entertainment
tuesdays - techo night with djs suleiman, dennis & shidra
wednesdays - reggae night with d'ohty intertainment
thursdays - soul night with djs suleiman, dennis & shidra
fridays - ol skool night
saturdays - party night
sundays - all request night plus lots of rock rock rock! brought to you by djs suleiman & shidra
attitude restaurant

- the latest addition to the florida family, attitude! is a restaurant and pub of distinction located in the heart of nairobi. with its airy décor, friendly staff and superb food, there’s no doubt it’s tops for lunch and early evening drinks.

- kengeles offers very descent food too, good english kind of breakfasts and equally good grilled meat or fish dishes. the breakfast cost 200-300 kes, while lunch or dinner up to 600 kes. *

- along the street leading to the hilton there are 3 upstairs bars called taco’s, sizzles and taco bell’s (nothing to do with the american company). university students often go there to pick up a few extra bucks as they do at the carnivores disco restaurant but at carnivores, everything is expensive and at the 3 bars mentioned, entry is free and drinks are cheap.

- the best food in this rage i found was in kengeles restaurant in koinage street. it has a daily business mans buffet for 600ksh and includes everything but drinks. you will be happy with that.

- thorn tree café, kimathi street
serves a good mix of food, especially a big breakfast

- porterhouse restaurant, mama ngina street
excellent place for steaks

- kengeles bar and restaurant, koinange street
serves a wide variety of food: burgers, grills, mexican, african, indonesian, and asian, and buffet

- horseman, langata road
three restaurants in one—one serves game meat, the second pizzas, and the third chinese, kenyan, and indian food

- kahawa, kaunda street
great for breakfast

- zanze bar, moi avenue
friendly bar with pool tables, dance floor, and cheap beer

- taco bell, moi avenue
popular bar that overlooks the street

- hornbill pub, tom mboya street
large, dark, but friendly bar

- soho’s, parklands road
lively, popular bar that pulls smart crowd

- club soundd, kaunda street
central night spot

- diners at the nyama choma restaurant, safari park hotel
the hotel is beautiful. they have seven (i think) restaurants on site. i ate at the african restaurant. they have a 5 course meal for 1500 shillings. the main course is nyama choma, which is basically grilled meat. the concept is a bit like a brazillian steak house. waiters come round with unlimited skewers of meat. they had sausages, pork, beef, lamb, crocodile, alligator, chicken... et

- rangers: the best grilled meat in whole of kenya, the national park of nairobi

- blancos lounge:
during my last visit to nairobi in june 2007, i discovered something of a novelty: a true gourmet restaurant based on traditional african food! while the traditional stuff may be delicious and tasty, blancos lounge offers something much more. they offer both the traditional swahili dishes, as well their own inventions based on old local staple food. this place is still firmly within the global fusion cuisine. the day the michelin guide starts rating restaurants in africa, this place will most likely be among the first! when trying out their version of mbuzi choma with irio, i couldn't believe it when i got my irio as giant pommes noisettes on a bed of a sukuma wiki based salad (don't even try to understand what i'm talking about if you're not familiar with kenyan food!). needless to say, i recommend this place. check out their site at www.blancos.co.ke!

- the cellar is not mentioned in any tourist guide. located in lavington, this is a place where mainly affluent locals and well-informed expatriates go. their specialty is steaks, and the place is totally worth many visits.

- the cedar:
if you like lebanese food, it would be a crime not to visit the cedar, on lenana road. this place is owned by a norwegian businessman who does not compromise when it comes to style and quality in his restaurant. their mezze are absolutely mouth-watering! hang around in the bar after dinner, and you're likely to bump into quite a few members of kenya's political and business elite.

- habesha:
ethiopian restaurants are booming in popularity in nairobi.* ethiopian food usually consists of various spicy meat sauces, served with the traditional injera. if you haven't tried it, i can warmly recommend*it, but be aware that it's highly addictive!* habesha in hurlingham is my favorite ethiopian restaurant in nairobi. due to its reputation for excellence, it tends to be crowded though. the motherland along ngong road, and red sea on lenana road are also definitely worth trying.

- serena hotel:
the lunch buffet at the serena hotel is without any doubt the best one in town, and none of the other hotels offer anything that compares. never, ever eat there without having a taste of the smoked sailfish!

- annie oakley's:next to milimani backpackers, has pool tables, a descent menu, and a big screen with cable tv. another expats favorite hangout

- choices:, majestic house, moi avenue, box 53319,

- java house:
free wireless internet is available at java house restaurants in the city. the internet cafe in sarit centre also has wireless internet available at a good speed and a reasonable price.

- prime cuts, the village market, gigiri:
the most delicious sandwiches and salads in africa! attached to an expansive delicataseen, and butchery, prime cuts bistro offers a wide of selection of sandiwches, salads, steaks, drinks, cheese, and the finest quality meats and seafood. village market

- iguana bar & grill, fuji plaza, westlands
iguana is famous for its mexican*and indian*cuisine. nice bar collection.
every friday*mix of punjabi, african, hip-hop, arabian*and much more*music by dj sweety
every saturday*variety of music by aman behal inconjunction with dj sweety
every sunday indian live music by vicky khan.
big screens for sports are available.

- jikonee, tom mboya street
quick and tasty fast food in the heart of the city.

- chowpaty, diamond plaza parklands.
you could describe this as a combination of indian and chinese dishes.
this would be criminal. much better to see it as somewhere you can get phenomonal and authentic south indian cuisine cheaply in nairobi. fancy masala dosa and freshly squeezed orange, tangerine and carrot juice mix? call a cab.

- hooters, kaunda st.
for american food, i suggest the new hooters on kaunda st. hooters is a sports restaurant/bar, with several tvs playing vh1 or soccer games. the service is maybe the best in town, although meals are a bit expensive, from ksh 250 to 400 per person. meals range from sandwiches, hamburgers, and pizza to excellent milk shakes, a rarity in kenya.

- pasara café, by trattoria: about the only place to get a good sandwich in nairobi is pasara café on kaunda, just down from trattoria. there are a variety of sandwiches in several sizes, and an excellent salad bar. plan on spending from ksh 150-300 to get full.

- milimani backpackers & safari centre is the ideal location for a traveller to rest and refresh. one can hook up with fellow backpackers for a safari, take up water rafting, mountain climbing or bird watching
club barn, ngong racecourse.

- the clubarn:
the much acclaimed scicoustic band from south africa pefromed at clubarn on 5th july, during the polo day dinner. also in performance was johnny clegg, a rock maestro from uk.
the clubarn is located off ngong road inside the ngong racecourse, nairobi (kenya). it was opened eight years after the barn (a famous night club) was closed. today known as the clubarn , it rests on the same concept but recently renovated to blend in with modern times.
the clubarn is partitioned into different areas to suit the clubs needs. they include:
a main disco bar with perimeter fully equipped with a dance floor, d.j booth, lower level sitting area, upper foyer and a pool table area; all suited to accommodate an average number.
the new clubarn lounge the is a new lounge with its own bar area totally secluded from the main disco area where you can chat away with your friends while drinking your favorite liquor or cocktails. *
bonfire patio at the entrance: here, a bonfire is lit every night with chairs placed around it for an aesthetic and warm effect where customers can interact freely under the stars.
kitchen lobby: this extends from the bonfire veranda with trees overlooking the area. with a fully equipped kitchen, customers are served directly and with ease.
grills are also strategically placed around the lobby for nyama choma and other grilled specialties.
the outdoor bar : the bar & grill has this unique feature strategically placed to serve those outside.
stage & performance area: the stage can hold 15 performers and the area around the stagen is *enough to hold a capacity of 500 pax, high enough for better viewing.

- pavement: a cafe runs during all opening hours - however the main attraction is their lively nightclub. there's a dancefloor on bottom level. 2 bars inside lounge upstairs one bar outside w/a sportsbar atmosphere.* entrance on friday and saturday nights is*500/= per person. it is a very good club that offers a wide range of music depending on the type of people that are there and also depending on the event taking place on that particular night.

- havana restaurant and bar, westlands woodwale grove:
salsa, mixed with zouk, africando, afro-fusion and brazilian is the main theme of the music selection.
some of nairobi popular salsa bands occasionally perform at havana, check with the bar for dates.
havana screens the live matches of the fa premier league and major international football fixtures on the flat screens in the bar area.
havatronics on thursdays: newest electronic funky beats, every thursday

- simba salon:
adjoining the main restaurant is the simba saloon - a vibrant informal restaurant that incorporates a childrens playground (very popular at weekends) and a lively nightclub.*
the simba saloon serving pizzas (from a traditional, domed, brick oven), an extremely popular salad bar at lunchtime, steaks, hamburgers, scampi, trout, chicken, and other light snacks, provides an alternative to those who do not want to indulge in a large meal.
the night club operates from wednesday to sunday and has themed nights to cater for fans of contemporary african music, rock, soul, jazz, old skool, and the latest hits.
the simba saloon is well known for hosting some of africas best musicians as well as many international ones such as maxi priest, yellowman, sadao watanabe, manu dibango, salif keta, chaka demus and pliers, ismael lo,* and habib koite just to mention a few.
*
every wednesday

rock nite
venue: simba saloon
the greatest and best of rock,
garage, techno, trance and dance
with carnivore"s dj ben and dj burn
from 6 p.m. till late
entry is free before 11 p.m. and
only kshs 200 thereafter

friday* stay tuned for different action

saturday* stay tuned for different action

every sunday *
soul nite
venue: simba saloon
entrance: 100 bob from 6pm


general things

- travelling east africa
good tip: go midweek, or else you will rub shoulder to shoulder with the masses. this way you can perhaps throw in a trip to kampala, uganda. just a suggestion.

- for "best" cybercafe, i was recommended to, and also recommend avant-garde, standard st., attached to fedha towers. they did not have wifi in 2006 but you could connect to their local network using your own laptop. also the browsing price was reasonable at 1.5ksh. very friendly and helpful staff, nice decor, not too big, nice computers, a/c!
for all those who'd rather rent an appartment, i enclose pics of a few billboards, all in the vicinity of nakumatt nyali.

- to dial a mba landline, press +254 41, drop the first 0, then press the last 7 or 6 digits.

to dial a # beginning with 020, press +254. 20 and so on.

to dial a kenya cell # beginning with 0713 upto 0736, you press +254, drop the first 0 and input the remaining 9 numbers.

- hope the other random pics get you into the mood to visit as well.
my point is no need for dating sites. just come here, be brave and do the following:

1) smile at a girl (any girl),
2) say hi, tell them you really like them,
3) tell them they have a beautiful bottox (bottox = ass and all ghanaian girls love to hear they have a beautiful ass - don't worry they won't be offended),
4) get their phone number,
5) call them an hour later and tell her that you miss her already and you must see her tonight or you will die.


- venture africa is highly recommended by our tour company..kumuka overland ( www.kumuka.com )*
once leaving the customs area of the airport, (jomo kenyatta international airport,) the “large round venture hut is right in front of you.*
venture offer a well priced, safe and friendly return airport/motel transfers, as well as arranging several day trips to all of nairobi's major sights and attractions. a typical day trip that takes in the giraffe centre and the david sheldrick wildlife trust will cost approx us$30 for up to 4 people.....bargain!
http://www.ventureafricasafaris.com/about-us.htm

- i never had any problems with the quality of medical care in nairobi. the best hospitals there are the nairobi hospital (on argwings kodhek rd; tel. 2722160, 2714400) and aga khan hospital (3rd parklands avenue; tel. 740000, 742531) and they both have an emergency reception.*

- for "best" cybercafe, i was recommended to, and also recommend avant-garde, standard st., attached to fedha towers. they did not have wifi in 2006 but you could connect to their local network using your own laptop. also the browsing price was reasonable at 1.5ksh. very friendly and helpful staff, nice decor, not too big, nice computers, a/c!

- college students/ working class: if you have time to spare in nairobi, then why not have a short term gf? rather than pay for the shag overtly, you will pay covertly through buying dinners, perfume and plenty of drinks. you may not get shag on the first night but i can guarantee you that most kenyan women dream of having a white man. you will be a trophy to be shown around the clique of girlfriends but who cares, as longs as the load in your balls in lightened right? in this is your style, the hang around the various kengeles joints, club sound, club bananas (plenty of united states international university mamas here ready to exchange a glass of baileys for a shag), ibiza and tacos.

casino:
intercontinental hotel nairobi (with casino), city hall way, nairobi
entrance fee: free
id/passport: required
dress code: smart/casual
opening times: daily from 6pm to 6am
gaming currency: ksh
games to play: jackpot slots/video machines; live table games: single 0 american roulette, blackjack, poker
facilities: restaurants, bar, entertainment, foreign currency exchange, wireless internet access.
remarks: the intercontinental casino is one of the best casinos in nairobi. they have six roulette tables, most of them busy but not too crowded. the lowest minimums and highest maximums in nairobi. the service is great, an excellent buffet and a huge bar.

cimema:
if you want to catch a movie, you have a couple of good choices in nairobi.* 20th on mama ngina street is located in the cbd, and if you stay in one of the major city hotels, you can walk over there safely, even at night. the sarit centre in the westlands and the nu metro in the village market also have some very nice movie theatres.

shopping:
shopping in nairobi can be quite fun, as prices are way below what europeans are used to.* due to the strong economic growth, the number of large, modern malls keeps growing.* the village market is, without a doubt the most fun place to go. constructed like a giant village, it a has a really cool architecture, with an articificial river running through the place. in addition to a bunch of clothes shops with all the major designer labels (at prices way below european level), a supermarket and a travel agency, it has a cinema, a night club, about 15 small food places with various international cuisines surrounding an open-air food court, some nice outdoor cafés and an italian ice bar. there's even a small amusement park, so it is basically a place where it's easy to spend quite some time.* alternative good upmarket places to shop are nakumatt ngong road and the sarit centre. http://www.villagemarket-kenya.com/home.php

- kichuna means handsome.

- go to the norfolk hotel for colonial charm and the beautiful pool!

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Mazozo
06-23-09, 17:43
Classifieds are having another round of clampdowns on massage listings. Perhaps they willl re-incarnate as mens weakness!

However, www.mazozo.com has a pretty extensive list and most numbers are current. if you find a dead link, you could send a quick email using the contact us link. And a report back would be appreciated. As would mention when you call the number.

Hesekiels
06-24-09, 18:01
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Jamjam222:

yeah, that's indeed a good one! Thanks for the great summary! Very useful for every visitor!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Ghost Daddy
06-24-09, 20:21
Guys, I am a long time monger with experience in many countries. I post a little bit here every now and then.

I have used Embassy Hotel in Nairobi for quickies on many occasions, however, I had quite a bad experience a few days ago.

Essentially, I got with a new girl, who turned out to be a crook, basically, and I sent her out of the room before we had transacted anything. Two hours later, despite my calls to security, she was still waiting in the hallway, causing a scene. The manager "intervened", but it was clear he was playing along with the girl, as she never disappeared. Eventually, to avoid going to the police, I had to pay them BOTH something.

Messed up stuff like this can happen even to experienced folks, I guess.

Any way, with so many other options in Nairobi, it's best to avoid Embassy Hotel.

Avoid a girl who hangs out in the downtown hotels (intercon, hilton) and goes by the name of Sheila. She also has a dodgy friend, "Dannys"

Jerulez
06-25-09, 01:08
yes, or simply talk to any policeman on the road and have a fag together with him - in public of course! :)

Two weeks ago in Nairobi I was told: "You are white, so you can do whatever you like! And I am from the police, so I can do whatever I like as well! And now give me light, please!"

Cheers!

HesekielsDon't cozy up in your comfort. Another one could see that you're white and realize that you're prime meat. And he'll make sure that you pay dearly

Its not corruption. He'll simply be enforcing rules that aren't usually enforced for the sake of it. And that is where being white is a disadvantage. A cop will 'resurrect' a law from 1938 just to see you squirm. Even if he doesn't get anything from it.

Jamjam222
06-25-09, 12:33
Jamjam222:

yeah, that's indeed a good one! Thanks for the great summary! Very useful for every visitor!

Cheers!

HesekielsThanks, glad I could help!

Hesekiels
06-25-09, 21:23
Its not corruption. He'll simply be enforcing rules that aren't usually enforced for the sake of it. And that is where being white is a disadvantage. A cop will 'resurrect' a law from 1938 just to see you squirm. Even if he doesn't get anything from it.


Jerulez:

agreed! This conclusion is certainly not wrong!

Cheers!



Hesekiels

Bigstud
06-26-09, 04:05
Thanks, glad I could help!Yeah, many thanks for this great info! Very timely as I'll be coming to Nairobi in a few days. Just one question please to you or other bros in this forum: what's the going rate, all-in, for a young lady to provide hotel service?

Member #4379
06-26-09, 18:14
If he enforces the law as a police officer he will only make an arrest and not request the payment of a fine directly to him. A ticket is issued by the police officer and the fine is paid to another institution and a receipt is issued. If the police officer accepts the payment of the fine directly then it is corruption. The same would apply if the police officer arrests him on the spot and throws him in jail without a 'fair trial/hearing'. If the accused doesn't get their 'hearing' and has to pay his way out of jail, (not bail), then, again, it's corruption. Kenya scores 2.2 on the Corruption Perception Index, ranking 144 out of 163 countries surveyed for 2006 Transparency International.

In the end it depends on the individual police officer. Not all police officers are corrupt by using their position to extort payment in return for not enforcing a real or fictitious breakage of the law. I see customs officers and immigration being the corrupt ones by refusing entry/ even exit! by making up violations.

Hesekiels
06-26-09, 18:22
Yeah, many thanks for this great info! Very timely as I'll be coming to Nairobi in a few days. Just one question please to you or other bros in this forum: what's the going rate, all-in, for a young lady to provide hotel service?


Bigstud:

if you pick a girl for an afternoon session 1000 KHS max should be fine. For LT I usually pay 2000 KHS. However, pros in Madhouse demand 4000 to 5000 KHS (ridiculous!), but when it is getting late - or better said early - they will normally accept 2000 KHS as well. It's better than going home alone with empty pockets! :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Leeuwen
06-27-09, 12:37
May soon get an opportunity to visit Nairobi, Kenya, and would like to hear from you guys, if anal is widely accepted there, given there are various tribes, each one with its own peculiarities. As far as I'm concerned, western parts of Africa are more liberal in this respect. What have your experiences been so far?

Hesekiels
06-27-09, 17:05
May soon get an opportunity to visit Nairobi, Kenya, and would like to hear from you guys, if anal is widely accepted there, given there are various tribes, each one with its own peculiarities. As far as I'm concerned, western parts of Africa are more liberal in this aspect. What have your experiences been so far?


Leeuwen:

according to my experience certainly not 'widely' accepted, but accepted! I suppose that my success rate is about 50%.

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Leeuwen
06-27-09, 21:47
Hesekiels, since ladies aren't in short supply, I gladly accept 50% success rate while looking for young talents. Just out of curiosity, which Kenyan tribe has generally best looking women?

Hesekiels
06-27-09, 22:06
Hesekiels, since ladies aren't in short supply, I gladly accept 50% success rate while looking for young talents. Just out of curiosity, which Kenyan tribe has generally best looking women?

Leeuwen:

it's of course always in the eye of the beholder, however, all my favorites were Kikuyu's! :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Brian Moloney
06-27-09, 22:24
Leeuwen:

according to my experience certainly not 'widely' accepted, but accepted! I suppose that my success rate is about 50%.

Cheers!


Hesekiels
For some one that is so knowledgeable as you Hesekiels I yet to see # 1 photograph talk is CHEAP. And I have been on ISG. for many a year. At least I have posted pics. Ukraine and Russia.

Ioneto
06-27-09, 22:45
1st Akamba
2nd Taita
3th Meru
4th Somali/Erithrea
5rh Kikuyu
(it's only my opinion please, not absloute truth)
hottest Luo.

Hesekiels
06-27-09, 23:01
For some one that is so knowledgeable as you Hesekiels I yet to see # 1 photograph talk is CHEAP. And I have been on ISG. for many a year. At least I have posted pics. Ukraine and Russia.


BM:

Honestly spoken I am neither knowledgeable nor a photographer. So sorry to disappoint you! But actually I do not quite understand why it should be cheap to talk, to write and to exchange opinions or experiences?

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Hesekiels
06-27-09, 23:06
1st Akamba
2nd Taita
3th Meru
4th Somali/Erithrea
5rh Kikuyu
(it's only my opinion please, not absloute truth)
hottest Luo.


Ioneto:

... and you have tested all of them? :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Ioneto
06-28-09, 09:57
Ioneto:

... and you have tested all of them? :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

many, as you too I think! half masai in every tribe too. but we must remember that every woman is different ftom the other. I hope to go there in september, I miss a lot that wonderful world!
Ciao

Bigstud
06-29-09, 05:01
1500. Kst

2000-2500 klt

Stick to this rate. Don't let johnny tell you to pay more no matter how hot she looks.Many thanks Azeb! Just landed in Nairobi yesterday and hope to have time to indulge in the local delights this week.

Bigstud
06-29-09, 05:03
Bigstud:

if you pick a girl for an afternoon session 1000 KHS max should be fine. For LT I usually pay 2000 KHS. However, pros in Madhouse demand 4000 to 5000 KHS (ridiculous!), but when it is getting late - or better said early - they will normally accept 2000 KHS as well. It's better than going home alone with empty pockets! :)

Cheers!

HesekielsMany thanks for the guidance Hesekiels.

BTW, how's Pavement these days?

Azeb 411
06-29-09, 11:40
Bigstud:

if you pick a girl for an afternoon session 1000 KHS max should be fine. For LT I usually pay 2000 KHS. However, pros in Madhouse demand 4000 to 5000 KHS (ridiculous!), but when it is getting late - or better said early - they will normally accept 2000 KHS as well. It's better than going home alone with empty pockets! :)

Cheers!


HesekielsI agree 4000-5000 is just stupid it is a bit like those Ethiopian cute but Wet-Blanket-in Bed-Girls asking for US$100 for ST, but you know what the funny thing is some fools actually do Pay.

Hesekiels
06-29-09, 11:56
Many thanks Azeb! Just landed in Nairobi yesterday and hope to have time to indulge in the local delights this week.


Hi Bigstud:

Keep us informed about your success stories, ok? :) I look, however, forward to reading your new posts!

Have a great time in Kenya!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Member #4379
06-29-09, 18:54
Ioneto Would you also rank Akamba as number 1 for sexual performance? I've heard that is the case, do you agree?

Ioneto
06-30-09, 18:50
I heard the same, too. But I was speaking about the good-looking. For my personal experience I found some Luo very very hot, and some Somali good blojobber. As I told before, I think sexual performance is the result of the chemist between man and woman and the attitude of every woman.
Me too I'm not the same everywhere and always.

Ioneto Would you also rank Akamba as number 1 for sexual performance? I've heard that is the case, do you agree?

Zircon
07-01-09, 01:07
How have people done with this site? I joined and met many women. Most offer their phone numbers very quickly, but I don't get there for another month, so I am not sure how it will pan out. One thing, there is no shortage of women on Nairobi.

Hesekiels
07-01-09, 17:57
How have people done with this site? I joined and met many women. Most offer their phone numbers very quickly, but I don't get there for another month, so I am not sure how it will pan out. One thing, there is no shortage of women on Nairobi.


Why to use such websites prior to arrival when almost every girl one meets on the streets of Nairobi is available? IMHO it is wasted time and money because virtually all of them will ask for money transfers before one has even seen them personally. Just my 2 cents!

Anybody with a similar experience?

Cheers


Hesekiels

FL Wingman
07-01-09, 20:11
I have been using AI for a while, I go to East Africa a lot and have meet many really nice girls here, I have never been asked for money transfers, and never been asked for money for sex. It does require work on the first meeting do not expect everything every time. You will get stuck with the girl and e-mails after wards.

Zircon
07-02-09, 02:10
Why to use such websites prior to arrival when almost every girl one meets on the streets of Nairobi is available? IMHO it is wasted time and money because virtually all of them will ask for money transfers before one has even seen them personally. Just my 2 cents!

Anybody with a similar experience?

Cheers

HesekielsPerhaps. I have some that request nothing, some that want small crap like acrylic nails (LOL). Most just say here's my number, call when you get in. You may be right that with some many available in the city, this service is probably not needed. We shall see.

Jamis Plumber
07-03-09, 10:38
4000-5000 is just stupid ........Girls asking for US$100 for ST, but you know what the funny thing is some fools actually do Pay.

Below is an excerpt on the prices from 'The East African' Newspaper.
“They normally charge about Ksh500 ($6) and above for ‘fry’ (without a condom) and as low as Ksh200 ($2.5) for ‘boil’ (sex with a condom).” .....the charges vary with the kind of client and the level of bargain.

A reminder though regarding the Nairobi-Mombasa highway; ''....one in every three adults living in markets along the highway is HIV positive.''

So, as you bargain/buy, knowledge about what is on the ground is critical in making wise decisions/choices. Wrap it up unless you are on a biological warfare mission yourself.

Full article here: http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/magazine/-/434746/616088/-/15n1lbyz/-/index.html

Hesekiels
07-03-09, 16:57
Below is an excerpt on the prices from 'The East African' Newspaper. “They normally charge about Ksh500 ($6) and above for ‘fry’ (without a condom) and as low as Ksh200 ($2.5) for ‘boil’ (sex with a condom).” .....the charges vary with the kind of client and the level of bargain.

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JP:

indeed an interesting story! However, these 'highway girls' serve primarily local truckers and so I would rather doubt that they belong to our target group, or am I mistaken?

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Junior
07-03-09, 17:41
Hi,

I am looking into doin a safari in Kenya later this year.
Does anyone have a suggestions as to how I can get a nice attractive young lady to join me for about a week?
I will not have too much time to spend in Nairobi as I am somewhat timeconstrained, so I cannot spend more than a day or two searching for a companion.

Junior

Jamis Plumber
07-03-09, 17:48
JP:

indeed an interesting story! However, these 'highway girls' serve primarily local truckers and so I would rather doubt that they belong to our target group, or am I mistaken?

Cheers!


Hesekiels

They move with the 'truckers' to Nairobi and Mombasa after acquiring the skills and knowledge of a better market. We find them there and consummate with delight. We move to smaller towns out there sometimes and they happen to be the experienced enough to be available.

And oh yes, some of these truckers are amongst us on the ISG forum. The Mombasa-Nairobi highway being an international gateway to Sudan, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi and DRC, many people travel by road and take rest in these small towns. Others work out there in NGOs and other stuff.

Globo
07-03-09, 19:51
Loso,

Am in Nairobi around the same time. Impressed with your past reports. We have a lot in common. If you would like to hook up for a beer then get back to me.Donnachaa and any one else who is around. I am in Nairobi from this Sunday for a few days and interested in meeting up for a few beers.

No IM so email at [Email address deleted by Admin]

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Loso69
07-04-09, 17:06
Donnachaa and anyone else who might be interested, I am over in Nairobi this week from Sunday onwards if anyone in interested in meeting for a few beers. I don't have any IM so let me know if you are interested on the board or eMail

Can't PM you or Donnachaa, but I'll be in Nairobi until Monday. Been here for 8 days now. Those black honeys are damn sweet! :)

Loso

Globo
07-04-09, 17:33
If anyone is around this coming week and fancies meeting up you can drop me a PM now.

Zircon
07-04-09, 17:44
Hi,

I am looking into doin a safari in Kenya later this year. Does anyone have a suggestions as to how I can get a nice attractive young lady to join me for about a week?

I will not have too much time to spend in Nairobi as I am somewhat timeconstrained, so I cannot spend more than a day or two searching for a companion.

JuniorMy guess is that any of the women you meet would only be too happy to go with you. I have ben chatting with one in Nairobi and she clearly wants to come with me whn I go to western Kenya (followed by a safari). I think many of them either have no job or very flexible schedules, so just meet some women in Nairobi and broach the subject with them. I am wary of keeping any woman with me for my whole trip. I would much rather meet women in different areas.

Best of luck.

Hesekiels
07-05-09, 09:37
... I am wary of keeping any woman with me for my whole trip. I would much rather meet women in different areas.





I second Zircon's approach! Why to dine and wine one single girl for a couple of days (can get quite expensive, believe you me!)? It is much better and much more fun to have a different cuty every night! :) And with this approach you save a lot of money, for sure! IMHO of course!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Tonkazan
07-05-09, 11:25
I second Zircon's approach! Why to dine and wine one single girl for a couple of days (can get quite expensive, believe you me!)? It is much better and much more fun to have a different cuty every night! :) And with this approach you save a lot of money, for sure! IMHO of course!

Cheers!

HesekielsI totally agree with you! If you keep one girl for too long, she will begin to behave like your girlfriend, or fiancee. They tend to cling to you like superglue.

Junior
07-05-09, 11:32
I second Zircon's approach! Why to dine and wine one single girl for a couple of days (can get quite expensive, believe you me!)? It is much better and much more fun to have a different cuty every night! :) And with this approach you save a lot of money, for sure! IMHO of course!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Thanks for your inputs.
I did a safari some years ago and thought it was difficult to find ladies as I was driving around watching animals all day and then arrived at a lodge in the afternoon. That pretty much leaves the lodge staff for companionship.
If you were to suggest a place/club in Nairobi to find a travel companion - where would it be?

Junior

Willyboy
07-05-09, 11:51
Thanks for your inputs.

I did a safari some years ago and thought it was difficult to find ladies as I was driving around watching animals all day and then arrived at a lodge in the afternoon. That pretty much leaves the lodge staff for companionship.

If you were to suggest a place/club in Nairobi to find a travel companion - where would it be?

JuniorEvery girl wath you meet in Simmers Terras (Kenyetta Ave) will go with you.

Enzo 2009
07-05-09, 16:36
I agree 4000-5000 is just stupid it is a bit like those Ethiopian cute but Wet-Blanket-in Bed-Girls asking for US$100 for ST, but you know what the funny thing is some fools actually do Pay.Cool down Azeb. Charging 4000 -5000 is not stupid to them, in fact its clever cos its easier to come down in price that to go up and there are rich people who dont mind paying that much. Some call girls charge as much as 10,000 or more but these normally target diplomats and big businessmen. Also when you say 'some fools actually pay' does that mean there are other fools who dont?

Cheers!

Hesekiels
07-05-09, 18:26
Thanks for your inputs.

If you were to suggest a place/club in Nairobi to find a travel companion - where would it be?



Junior:

go to the well known places like Pavement, Madhouse, Simmers etc.! Or, even better, ask a nice girl you met in a restaurant, a shop or on the street! Brother, don't forget virtually all of them are available and all of them would be most pleased to accept your kind offer!

But again, personally I would not take a girl to a safari! It's getting too expensive and the cuty might have sky high expections in terms of a relationship then! Believe you me, I know what I am talking about! :)

I wish you a great time in Kenya!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Zircon
07-06-09, 03:03
Thanks for your inputs.

I did a safari some years ago and thought it was difficult to find ladies as I was driving around watching animals all day and then arrived at a lodge in the afternoon. That pretty much leaves the lodge staff for companionship.

If you were to suggest a place/club in Nairobi to find a travel companion - where would it be?

JuniorWhere is your safari starting? If Nairobi or Mombassa, you can meet women who will be only too happy to go with you. If it is smaller town, you would likely have fewer options. I agree with you that you are not going to find them while you are on safari because they cannot afford to go on safari, or because they are working for the safari company. Grab 1 before you leave. I agree with others though that you may then set very high expectations (which you could BS her with to stay out of LT commitment).

Fslag338
07-06-09, 18:23
Will arrive in Nairobi July 9. Anyone interested in having a beer and check out the fun? 45 and european.

James Tott
07-08-09, 13:11
Junior:

go to the well known places like Pavement, Madhouse, Simmers etc.! Or, even better, ask a nice girl you met in a restaurant, a shop or on the street! Brother, don't forget virtually all of them are available and all of them would be most pleased to accept your kind offer!

But again, personally I would not take a girl to a safari! It's getting too expensive and the cuty might have sky high expections in terms of a relationship then! Believe you me, I know what I am talking about! :)

I wish you a great time in Kenya!

Cheers!

HesekielsHi Hesekiels,

I need your help and Advice. I am due for few days off in sep 09 and hoping to have 5 day break in Kenya or Ghana.

What would you recommend Ghana or Kenya? I have been to ghana few times and had some great times with girls. I have been told that quality of girls in Nairobi is much superior and not too expensive either compare to Ghana. Please help me out any information regarding girl friendly hotel and rates in Nairobi will be great help also ST and LT rates and any pick up location will also help. How is security in Kenya compare to Ghana?

Thanks for the help.

Jim

Hesekiels
07-08-09, 21:23
... I have been told that quality of girls in Nairobi is much superior and not too expensive either compare to Ghana... Please help me out any information regarding girl friendly hotel and rates in Nairobi will be great help also ST and LT rates and any pick up location will also help. How is security in Kenya compare to Ghana?




Hi JT:

I would definitely not say that girls in Ghana are better than girls in Kenya (or vice versa)! It all depends on the cuty you pick up and it's certainly a matter of good luck as well. In both countries I had excellent experiences and embarrassing flops too! :)

Rates for ST approx 1000 - 1500 KHS, for LT approx 2000 - 2500. Make sure that you do not overpay!

As a GF hotel I would highly recommend Terminal Hotel. Great location and a fair price!

Regarding security: do not worry all too much, simply take the same precautions as in Accra!

Hope these information help a little!

Cheers!



Hesekiels

Member #4379
07-09-09, 18:05
I would add that Accra is much safer than Nairobi but simply compare by reading the Rough/Lonely Planet guides. Accra may be getting more dangerous but from my 3 years in Accra and what I've read about Nairobi (confession: haven't been there yet) that Accra is safer although these things are always changing.

Jeets Naila
07-11-09, 07:36
Any Indian girls?

Loso69
07-11-09, 22:48
I came back from Nairobi earlier this week. Those black honeys were damn sweet. I had a blast!

Even though Medellin can't hold a candle to Nairobi, I will finish my Medellin report before reporting about my experiences in Nairobi...


Any Indian girls?

Plenty of Indian girls in Madhouse, especially on weekends, but I never met any I fancied taking home. If you prefer light-colored skin, try the Somalis. They get some bad press on ISG, but I had great times with them.

Loso

Zircon
07-12-09, 08:35
I came back from Nairobi earlier this week. Those black honeys were damn sweet. I had a blast!

Even though Medellin can't hold a candle to Nairobi, I will finish my Medellin report before reporting about my experiences in Nairobi...

Plenty of Indian girls in Madhouse, especially on weekends, but I never met any I fancied taking home. If you prefer light-colored skin, try the Somalis. They get some bad press on ISG, but I had great times with them.

LosoLook forward to reading about the black honeys. They seem pretty aggressive, don't they? I will find out at month's end. Please include where you stayed and how the hotel was.

Azeb 411
07-12-09, 12:53
............ Or, even better, ask a nice girl you met in a restaurant, a shop or on the street! Brother, don't forget virtually all of them are available and all of them would be most pleased to accept your kind offer!

HesekielsHesekiels come on man! Wher do you get off saying things like that. "don't forget virtually all of them are available and all of them would be most pleased to accept your kind offer! "

. So every girl in Kenya is a Hooker who will spread her legs for $$$?

That is a such a very Arrogant and Ignorant statement to make. No Offense Buddy, it is just not True.

Swede Thing
07-12-09, 14:37
How have people done with this site? I joined and met many women. Most offer their phone numbers very quickly, but I don't get there for another month, so I am not sure how it will pan out. One thing, there is no shortage of women on Nairobi.

If you are not very stupid it is easy to tell which ones are scamming and just forget them. To me Afro is a way of meeting somewhat more normal girls than the ones we can pick up easy. That is, no p4p but maybe some actual love.

I used to browse and email a lot of girls so I have a list of maybe 5 goodlooking girls waiting for my arrival. 2 of them will not answer my calls when I am there. One will not match my linkings and that leaves me with the choice of two lovely ladys that are happy to see me. To me that is OK but if one onely wants to get laid, go to madhouse or Simmers and pick up what you like.

Fslag338
07-12-09, 18:47
Just returned from Nairobi. Had a great time there, also thanks to AfroIntro.

Used AI to meet really hot girls (20-25 and the best looking ones). Wanted some real hunting (and not only P4P) and some local contacts which always can bring you to places that you do not go from the tour guide. My lesson learned: do not start to early. 2 weeks is enough. What is the use of mailing for months? Have a few phone numbers after one or two mails and go there and meet with them. I had a great time and met a few nice ones.

Nightlife:
Nairobia is quite big, so prepare for some 20-30 minutes taxi drives to go to areas like Westlands.
In Westlands: had great times at Gypsies (a bar cum restaurant cum dance club). It starts around 10 to become full. Nice place with local and expat crowd. WG's are there too (like everywhere in Nairobi).

Was in Casablanca too a nice lounge bar cum dance club. Stylish place.

Many WG's (but also non working locals) go to Black Diamond (center) after they have visited other places.

Girls in general: some members reported that "every african girl is available". I do not agree (and I am quite good with getting women). Maybe if you talk about simple gils or the rural areas, but a university educated girl from a well to do family in Nairobi is really not waiting for John Doe from Oklahoma.
But in general they like white men for sure, so if you are nice you can have a great time.

Shopping centers: Jaja (so-so), Nakumatt (Westlands) nice and Westgate (the best)

Hotel: stayed at Fairview. Very nice place with friendly staff. Definitely GFriendly, especially if you take a first class room. You have your own entrance in the garden and do not pass reception. But this has a price, roughly USD 130 a night

Hesekiels
07-13-09, 07:02
So every girl in Kenya is a Hooker who will spread her legs for $$$?

That is a such a very Arrogant and Ignorant statement to make. No Offense Buddy, it is just not True.Azeb:

yes, you are certainly right! Not every Kenyan girl will spread her legs for $$$!

Herewith I correct my previous statement as follows: "about 93% would be most pleased ..."! And of course not all of them are hookers who do it for $$$! A number of them just expect some "taxi money" after the deed! :)

BTW, Azeb, are you familiar with the meaning of the word "virtually" that was written in the respective post? :)

Hope this makes things clearer now? And of course it's just my experience!

IMHO

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Willyboy
07-13-09, 12:50
Azeb:

yes, you are certainly right! Not every Kenyan girl will spread her legs for $$$!

Herewith I correct my previous statement as follows: "about 93% would be most pleased ..."! And of course not all of them are hookers who do it for $$$! A number of them just expect some "taxi money" after the deed! :)

BTW, Azeb, are you familiar with the meaning of the word "virtually" that was written in the respective post? :)

Hope this makes things clearer now? And of course it's just my experience!

IMHO

Cheers!

HesekielsWath is the different for the mzungu to give money or to give taxi money, if the girl recived 1000kes for parfum or 1000kes for taxi. Litthe bit sonsens

Enzo 2009
07-13-09, 14:15
Azeb:

yes, you are certainly right! Not every Kenyan girl will spread her legs for $$$!

Herewith I correct my previous statement as follows: "about 93% would be most pleased ..."! And of course not all of them are hookers who do it for $$$! A number of them just expect some "taxi money" after the deed! :)

BTW, Azeb, are you familiar with the meaning of the word "virtually" that was written in the respective post? :)

Hope this makes things clearer now? And of course it's just my experience!

IMHO

Cheers!

HesekielsThis is my experience

100% of girls met at a disco/nightclub would do it. Note to agree to do it is not the same as actually doing it, and doing it does not mean it was great.

0% of born again girls i met in church would do it. However this may be because i met them in church.

I dont think its worth mentioning girls who are accompanied by their boyfriends, lesbians, girls who are mensturating, Ugly girls etc etc.

I really do think things should be seen in context. One will have to have tried all kenyan girls in order to come up with accurate figures. For example, if i tried one girl on sunday night and she agreed then technically that can be 100% success. However if i tried two girls and one accepted then that is 50%. Now this 50% would be very unlikely to happen since I would have a feel for who and where to find girls who can do it so to avoid time wasting these would be my first choice.

Willyboy
07-13-09, 16:34
Datingsite girls are chatting mutch with many mzungus. Very rare that one of this girls are in meeting with man from chat. This girls are so hungry for this one fish. Will go very fast with you to supermarket. In my historie. I did meeting with +300 girls from afro or tagged. Not one was not after my money. Somethimes this girls will married with you after one minut. Many of this girls asking bifore meeting about parfum for gift (not fake parfum) but parfum from 7000kes.

End also funny. This mzungu going with full notebook with phone numbers to kenya. Big problem is thiming for meetings. End never you now. For one h or full night.

I give advice. Go to disco. Choise end pay. No emotions.

Most or mzungus having no plan to married. Only doing datingsite sport. End hope that Hi can have sex without money.

Hesekiels
07-13-09, 21:54
100% of girls met at a disco/nightclub would do it. Note to agree to do it is not the same as actually doing it, and doing it does not mean it was great.

0% of born again girls i met in church would do it. However this may be because i met them in church.

I dont think its worth mentioning girls who are accompanied by their boyfriends, lesbians, girls who are mensturating, Ugly girls etc etc.

.


Enzo:

great summary! Hence I think it would be pointless to continue with this rather fruitless discussion!

Anyway, I am certain that everybody has own experiences with Kenyan girls. Some experiences might be comparable, others might be entirely different! But I do admit that's actually nothing but a commonplace! :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Hesekiels
07-13-09, 22:13
... I did meeting with +300 girls from afro or tagged. Not one was not after my money. ...


Willyboy:

wow, that's truly amazing! 300 girls and no one was after your money! Congrats! I am most impressed and would be keen to learn how this was possible!?

Honestly spoken, I never ever had a free lunch! Neither in Africa, nor in any other country!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Slowalk
07-14-09, 00:19
Willy Boy used a double negative when he said that "not one was not after my money..." In otherwords, he did not encounter one woman who was not trying to take his money... and that all the dating site women had multiple men on the hook.

Loso69
07-14-09, 00:27
Not one was not after my money.

Rather than using a double negative, it would be simpler to say that all the girls were after your money.

My girls were all pros. Obviously, they all wanted my money. The good news is that they genuinely seemed to want my dick as well. :)

Loso

Ioneto
07-14-09, 05:36
Not all girls ask for money! If You have a girlfriend You must only guest her, pay for food, dresses, perfumes, not ordinary sunglasses etc. But sometimes happens:
1) the father or mother or sister etc. is sick in the hospital and he (she) need some amount of money;
2) her landlord ask the rent for some months ago;
3) she has a baby and the baby is sick because of malaria and need some medicine;
4) etc. etc.
Unluckily they don’t have money, so ….

Hesekiels
07-14-09, 06:51
Willy Boy used a double negative when he said that "not one was not after my money..." In otherwords, he did not encounter one woman who was not trying to take his money... and that all the dating site women had multiple men on the hook.Slowalk:

Holy smoke, you are right! Sorry, my mistake! I did not read WB's post thoroughly enough!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Hesekiels
07-14-09, 06:57
... If You have a girlfriend You must only guest her, pay for food, dresses, perfumes, not ordinary sunglasses etc. But sometimes happens:
1) the father or mother or sister etc. is sick in the hospital and he (she) need some amount of money;
2) her landlord ask the rent for some months ago;
3) she has a baby and the baby is sick because of malaria and need some medicine;
4) etc. etc.Yes exactly, and at the end of the day this is getting even more expensive than paying a pro for LT! Agreed?

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Willyboy
07-14-09, 07:55
If you think to meet datinggirl. End this girl want not your money. Than you have wet draem. It is not only striktly banknotes. But matrial thinks.10 x more than money to the point. To write with datingsite girls is good when you have free thime in your country but not losed your thime with this girls in Kenya. End by evry datingappointment. This girls coming always 60 minutes tolaet. Somethimes girls making appointments. But not coming. (no money for transport) No kredit for phone. Always flash. Plaese call my Datingsite girls are only adder type of malaya than disco malaya. But distination is same. Aeting your money.

This datingsite girls having 500 contakts for chat. End if you meet. Than you are the money sigar

Willyboy
07-14-09, 08:01
... yes exactly, and at the end of the day this is getting even more expensive than paying a pro for LT! Agreed?

Cheers!

HesekielsIn this website are clever boys.

Good thinking without tusker.

Zircon
07-14-09, 11:33
If you are not very stupid it is easy to tell which ones are scamming and just forget them. To me Afro is a way of meeting somewhat more normal girls than the ones we can pick up easy. That is, no p4p but maybe some actual love.

I used to browse and email a lot of girls so I have a list of maybe 5 goodlooking girls waiting for my arrival. 2 of them will not answer my calls when I am there. One will not match my linkings and that leaves me with the choice of two lovely ladys that are happy to see me. To me that is OK but if one onely wants to get laid, go to madhouse or Simmers and pick up what you like.Hi,

I would agree that many of them on Afro seem to be looking for something LT. I love chatting with women from the site. Within 10 minutes you can be describing exactly what you are going to do to them and they go for it. Very amusing. Either that, or the guy in Nigeria posing as the chick is doing a good job and getting his kicks. We'll see. I go an <2 weeks. Renting a 4x4 with some night driving in Nairobi. A little scared about that part, thoughI have never had problems elsewhere.

Arthur66
07-14-09, 16:30
Dear colleagues,

I will arrive in Nairobi within two weeks, and I need advice.
The local business is trying to set me in the Holiday Inn hotel, but I have no idea if it is in the right place and if it is GF.

I would normally go browsing for information myself, but unfortunately at this time I am short of both time and internet connectivity.

I hope some experienced member would be so kind to tell me what is the right place to be (hotel) - I need to know that rather quickly, or I will be stuck with the local biz selection.

Thank you in advance, I hope I will be able to meet you there.

Arthur

Ioneto
07-14-09, 22:50
Hello Esekiels, we are on the same wave!
I think Kenya is a paradise for us middle aged (or more).
We discuss about it’s to much to give girls more 1000 Ksh or 2000, for us, it’s a joke, sure we discuss it for to keep the market down.
But for this amount we have a young girl who sleep all the night and enjoy sex with us. I don’t use to go with escorts here, but I think it’s too different, and I’m not speaking about the money, girls in Kenya are similar to be as girlfriends.
Sometimes I put in this site my opinion, based on my experience, but there are something I cant’t understand in Kenya (an maybe in all Africa) so I write my tale, and open a discussion (I hope) about it.
In the evening, in Mombasa Casablanca I met a erithrean girl, we took the dinner in the overseas chinese restaurant in Moi Avenue, after the tusks (I recommend it because very good); after rhe dinner she told me to aspect her in Casablanca. As I was boring, without to aspect, I went to New Florida.
Arrived there some sharks came, but one Luo girl attracted me as very hot, tall, big matako and tits but not fat and a nice face.
She opened her legs in front of me, whispered she would smoke my cigar, put her hand inside my pants, so, because I can resist all things except temptations (Oscar Wilde), I kept her and we went to sleep.
In the room she give a streap tease, after showed me her pussy.
Joking I told her: “I want come inside You”.
In the dialogue after me is “m” and the girl is “g”.
g: eh? You ar’not my!
m: why? You let Your boy friend to come inside Yoy?
g: yes!
m: and if a baby born?
g: he’s my baby!
m: is Your boy friend an African boy?
g: no, he’s European
m: old as me?
g: no, young.
m: so you you like him!
g: no, he’s ugly.
After few seconds:
g: You can came inside me.
m: and if a baby born?
g: Italian baby are very nice!
I put my condom and I fucked her, when she began to moan I started to fuck better until began to cry, for about 40’ (because of that and similar tales I told Luo girl are very hot).
In the morning I put my dick on her thigh, she smiled and opened her legs, waiting to be fucked without condom (obviously I met it).
As many girls told me they like to fuck me without condom, my curiosity is if they want, or like, or they wait for to get pregnant, or the hell do they think about to receive sperm in their pussy.
Ps: I gave her 2000 Ksh.

Hesekiels
07-14-09, 23:24
... As many girls told me they like to fuck me without condom, my curiosity is if they want, or like, or they wait for to get pregnant, or the hell do they think about to receive sperm in their pussy.
Ps: I gave her 2000 Ksh.


Ioneto:

2000 KSH is fair! And yes, Ioneto, I have experienced exactly the same like you. I met also quite a lot of African girls who liked to be f**ked without raincoat, just to become pregnant from a white guy! First I never understood why, but later I was told by one cuty that they feel somehow privileged when they have a mixed baby 9 months after the deed! It is a little strange, isn't it? :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Enzo 2009
07-15-09, 06:44
As many girls told me they like to fuck me without condom, my curiosity is if they want, or like, or they wait for to get pregnant, or the hell do they think about to receive sperm in their pussy.
Ps: I gave her 2000 Ksh.Well well well. Lets understand this. An girl in florida who does not mind getting a mixed blood baby, in these harsh economic times, from somebody they may not be together with for long? My guess is they have HIV and are looking to spread it around. By the way it does happen.

Also its not likely they will get pregnant as they will most likely be taking some kind of contraceptive (e.g birth control injections). It happens by the way.

It would make sense if she was looking for marriage and then have mixed blood kids cos that would look respectable to everybody (friends, relatives etc etc).

Beware out there.

Ioneto
07-15-09, 21:41
Hello,
I related one story, I’was very interested in Your opinion, because myself I have many different of them, and one is similar to opinion of Enzo, other is to Ezekiels.
I know how for African girls is important to have babies, and, like the animals in Africa, to give them the best chances to survive;
I know as well how HIV positives can to have a strong thirst of vengeance versus healthy people.
So I think every hypothesis can to be the right one, It’s depend of circumstances.
In the story by me narrated I think so:
- she didn’t like her msungu boyfriend;
- she met a man that she preferred;
- she would like to get pregnant from him;
- the boyfriend arriving the following week (I omitted to mention it) believe to be the father.
About HIV virus, I can tell another story: 12 years ago I had a girlfriend, making love with her bareback; after test we discovered she was positive, and I was in big pain, as you can understand.
After few month I repeated the test and I was negative, as I am now.
The skin is a very good protection versus HIV virus, as condom too, but if in the sexual intercourse something happens (a slight wound or the condom broken, as can to succeed), believe me, You are in a very big trouble.
I’m glad cause I inserted a new interesting subject.
hi Ezekiels, ciao Enzo

Enzo 2009
07-16-09, 06:37
Hello,

I know how for African girls is important to have babies, and, like the animals in Africa, to give them the best chances to survive.Do u really live in Africa??? I wish you knew just how serious the dumping of babies and abortion situation is amongst unmarried women in Africa.

Unlike the animals who do not have to pay rent, educate their kids or take them to doctor when sick, poor african women in the city face significant challenges bringing up kids and many are they who choose not to have any.

Anyway its good sales tactic to make you man feel like the best she has ever met.

You are a very brave man to have sex with hiv infected women without a condom. Its a bit like playing russian roulette. I would never play that game myself.

Cheers!

Fslag338
07-16-09, 20:51
Before we start HIV / bareback discussions here, that is what the SafeSex chapter is for.

About the Pregnant issue: bear in mind that a lot of us are in midlife or later, so have a lot of life experience. Young girls do not have that of course and maybe many of them will be naively dreaming about the white man making her pregnant and marrying her. Becoming pregnant is a (stupid) method of trying to keep a man all over the world. So why not here?

About Wanting Money: with all due respect for everybody here... but if you are in your 50's and have a beer belly, you are dress like 1970's fashion.... and you want a girl in her early twenties.... then what else can you expect a beautiful young girl to get out of that other than presents or getting her family in a better situation? They are not bad (most of the time) but some of us can be naive sometimes.
On top of that: our western ideas about love and choosing the one you really love is something we can have because we have the welfare for it. In most countries in the world a marriage is not about love but about making a good choice in life. In the belief that the love will maybe come later.

Again: i do not want to insult anybody, but we must be realistic.

Hesekiels
07-16-09, 22:33
... About Wanting Money: with all due respect for everybody here... but if you are in your 50's and have a beer belly, you are dress like 1970's fashion.... and you want a girl in her early twenties.... then what else can you expect a beautiful young girl ...


Fslag338:

maybe it is not only a matter of age? I still remember very well that I paid also when I was 27 years old! :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Zircon
07-17-09, 02:11
Fslag338:

maybe it is not only a matter of age? I still remember very well that I paid also when I was 27 years old! :)

Cheers!

HesekielsI suspect it is not age but the correlated variables of wealth-race-experience-hope. As I see it, many of these girls have very little hope for their futures and we represent that.

Hesekiels
07-17-09, 08:42
I suspect it is not age but the correlated variables of wealth-race-experience-hope. As I see it, many of these girls have very little hope for their futures and we represent that.


That's key! Well, I could imagine that even George Clooney would have to pay, and most likely slightly more than you and I?! :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Ioneto
07-17-09, 15:29
[QUOTE=Enzo 2009]Do u really live in Africa??? I wish you knew just how serious the dumping of babies and abortion situation is amongst unmarried women in Africa.

Enzo, I know that situation but You extrapolated the sense of my words. I never met pregnant a girl or was near to it. I spoke about only one bad experience 12 years ago. I clarify: I didn’t met that girl in Casablanca or Florida, she was 31 y.o. from a good family (I have yet contacts with them) , she was starting to live with me, taking the pill, and I took care of her for years after the bad surprise. I was only imprudent.
I was speaking academically about HIV virus because doctors, finding me surprised about no infection, told me it’s not so easy as I believed.
HIV is dangerous and terrible, more dangerous is hepatitis virus, easier to be infected from, no medicine for it and bringing in few years to cancer or cirrhosis, so condom is not important but indispensable.
You can understand as scared I was. I was imprudent and twice lucky.
Please, it’s not for to polemize, only clarify: I think when people misunderstand my words it’s because I’m not capable to explain me

Azeb 411
07-17-09, 20:27
Dear colleagues,

I will arrive in Nairobi within two weeks, and I need advice.
The local business is trying to set me in the Holiday Inn hotel, but I have no idea if it is in the right place and if it is GF.

I would normally go browsing for information myself, but unfortunately at this time I am short of both time and internet connectivity.

I hope some experienced member would be so kind to tell me what is the right place to be (hotel) - I need to know that rather quickly, or I will be stuck with the local biz selection.

Thank you in advance, I hope I will be able to meet you there.

ArthurMost hotels in Kenya are GF in you follow the law........ the Chicks have to register at the front desk, but so many Guy just want her to come up and try to sneak her up to their rooms I repeat.

It is the law In Kenya, guest must register to go up, and it is also for your protection.

I especially like The Phillipines where the F/Desk will even give you a call to tell you "your Guest is leaving" and if you dont pick up the phone or say it is "ok!" she will not be allowed to leave the hotel.

Enzo 2009
07-18-09, 06:48
[QUOTE=Enzo 2009]Do u really live in Africa??? I wish you knew just how serious the dumping of babies and abortion situation is amongst unmarried women in Africa.

I didn’t met that girl in Casablanca or Florida, she was 31 y.o. from a good family (I have yet contacts with them) , she was starting to live with me, taking the pill, and I took care of her for years after the bad surprise. I was only imprudent.
Ah, I understand now.

I misunderstood you.

Sorry ;-)

The Moff Man
07-21-09, 14:39
y guys, first time posting and I really could do with a quick bit of advice.

Am in Nairobi very soon and alone, and have just seen that the Hilton has reduced its room prices significantly. But is the hotel girl friendly? I will be booking a double room for 2 adults whatever, but doesn't mean that they won't make a fuss at the front desk?

Have read the report about girls all signing in so any girl I take back could do that.

Anyway, any advice on the Hilton in particular would be most appreciated guys.

Maybe will catch up wid some of you when am in town?

Take care and thanx.

AfAsia
07-21-09, 22:14
Am in Nairobi very soon and alone, and have just seen that the Hilton has reduced its room prices significantly. But is the hotel girl friendly? I will be booking a double room for 2 adults whatever, but doesn't mean that they won't make a fuss at the front desk?

Have read the report about girls all signing in so any girl I take back could do that.

Welcome to the forum. Some girls do not enjoy the fact they have to sign. I stayed at the Hilton several years back, the girls tried to sneak by security and up to my room, but alas, security was very tight and remarkably they would not take bribes, guess the hotel is heavily scrutinized by CCTV.

Had to pay the $30 charge. Hilton is not exactly the ideal, although well located i don`t bother with it, always stay at the Terminal Hotel, very cheap, basic, and above all GF.

Below, the Hilton receptionist is showing the room in uniform, always at hand with pen and notepad, my every need to be taken care of. Rooms have since been refit. Seriously though, this one did not like the fact that she had to register.

Twardzik6969
07-24-09, 03:15
Hi guys,

I'm fairly new to ISG and was just wondering- which country is the best deal for sex with attractive women in Africa, keeping in mind that some are more expensive to get to.

For example (I'm coming out of Chicago), if Kenya is $1500 to get to and from, and sex is $25, and South Africa is $1100 to get to and from, and sex is $45, I'd probably go for South Africa. I'll probably go for around 10 days...

I've never been with a black chick before I bet it's exciting! Hope to see a different part of the world and appreciate a new culture too!

IvoryEbonyLover
07-24-09, 12:09
Kenya is better, as there are more chicks available for sex and most of them are genuinely horny so they give better value for money. I havent been to South Africa but I should imagine its hard to get sex with a gorgeous black girl for less than $50 and then it would cost you so much more there for accomodation, transport and food. In my opinion East african girls are a hundred times prettier than South African blacks, and if you shop around for a cheaper airline (there are some good deals outta London return, if you can get a ticket from the US to London for the connection) it wouldnt cost more to get to Kenya than to South Africa.

Loso69
07-24-09, 20:11
Twardzik6969,

My next African adventure will be in Madagascar. The cheapest tickets are with charter airline Corsairfly direct from Paris. I didn't fancy that.

The alternative was to buy 2 separate tickets and stop over in either Nairobi or Jo'burg. As for you, Jo'burg was the cheaper option.

I did some research on Jo'burg on ISG. The scene is mostly escorts. Few girls show their face, so they're basically blind dates. And Jo'burg sounds fucking dangerous!

I've been to Nairobi. I loved it! Meeting freelancers in discos is way more fun than calling faceless escorts. Kenyan & Somali chicks totally rock! I'll be spending another 11 days in Nairobi on my way to/from Madagascar.

Loso

Willyboy
07-24-09, 20:16
Willyboy will fly Frankfurt-Mombasa 419 euro.26/7. Meetings for tusker?

Jamjam222
07-24-09, 23:46
Twardzik6969,

My next African adventure will be in Madagascar. The cheapest tickets are with charter airline Corsairfly direct from Paris. I didn't fancy that.

The alternative was to buy 2 separate tickets and stop over in either Nairobi or Jo'burg. As for you, Jo'burg was the cheaper option.

I did some research on Jo'burg on ISG. The scene is mostly escorts. Few girls show their face, so they're basically blind dates. And Jo'burg sounds fucking dangerous!

I've been to Nairobi. I loved it! Meeting freelancers in discos is way more fun than calling faceless escorts. Kenyan & Somali chicks totally rock! I'll be spending another 11 days in Nairobi on my way to/from Madagascar.

LosoI know you had a lot of fun mate! I am still with the same girl, it worked out fine as you can understand. Sorry I didn't hang out more :)

As far as Nairobi is concerned, Terminal is probably the cheapest and most GF as well as it is very safe.

Madhouse, Gypsys, Black Diamon etc are all very good places. Madhouse is loaded with prostitutes. The other Florida is a bit boring, but the Pango next door (F3) is a nice bar/strip club to get the evening started. Most clubs are not full until 11-12 at night. You could also go to Simmers.

LustyHombre
07-26-09, 17:53
Hi guys,

I'm fairly new to ISG and was just wondering- which country is the best deal for sex with attractive women in Africa, keeping in mind that some are more expensive to get to.

For example (I'm coming out of Chicago), if Kenya is $1500 to get to and from, and sex is $25, and South Africa is $1100 to get to and from, and sex is $45, I'd probably go for South Africa. I'll probably go for around 10 days...

I've never been with a black chick before I bet it's exciting! Hope to see a different part of the world and appreciate a new culture too!Try AA or UA for ORD-FRA and then take Condor (believe they are a Lufthansa daughter) FRA-MBA; you should come out at about $1200 or so, depending upon the time of year. Make sure to stop over in FRA for at least a day and visit one of the nearby FKK's (like Oase or World) and you won't believe your eyes.

Have never mongered in ZA but been there a couple of times on biz. Durban looks like the only major town with some potential for our kind of entertainment, but I would expect you pay way more than you would in Mombasa or Nairobi.

Loso69
07-27-09, 19:15
I know you had a lot of fun mate! I am still with the same girl, it worked out fine as you can understand. Sorry I didn't hang out more :)

You had a steady (non-pro) GF. I had a different (pro) GF every night. We had different agendas, but we both had fun :)

Loso

Arthur66
08-01-09, 00:57
I will be in Nairobi from Monday 2nd. I would love to meet other members there. Please reply or PM me if interested.

Looking forward to meeting you.

Arthur

Tractor Boy
08-06-09, 11:16
Due to the current money situation my company has booked me in at the 680 hotel for my visit next week, rather than my usual choice of the Hilton.

I have read some blogs that say this hotel has ladies available in rooms on site. I have checked with the hotel and they do not have sauna / massage in the hotel - which has always been a good source of "room service" at the Hilton. Can any of you experienced mongers provide some up to date information please.

Thanks

Ze Gato
08-07-09, 00:18
Due to the current money situation my company has booked me in at the 680 hotel for my visit next week, rather than my usual choice of the Hilton.

I have read some blogs that say this hotel has ladies available in rooms on site. I have checked with the hotel and they do not have sauna / massage in the hotel - which has always been a good source of "room service" at the Hilton. Can any of you experienced mongers provide some up to date information please.

Thanks
They will be sitting at the 2nd floor bar and also at the cafe downstair. Make sure you are booked for double as the hotel has security in every floor and they are very strict. I would avoid the 680 at all cost.

Hesekiels
08-07-09, 03:52
I would avoid the 680 at all cost.


I second that!

However, if you have booked a double room make sure that you always register the girl before going to your room. In this case the security guards cannot hassle you!

Cheers!



Hesekiels

Tractor Boy
08-07-09, 08:28
Thanks to you both for the advice - which I will take.

A collegue has advised me to book just along the road from the 680, at Chester House. These are apartments, which are cheaper than than the hotel and am told there is a restaurant within the complex - the Fiesta - where I can get meals and drinks and some evening entertainment.

Is this a good choice at Ks 4500 / night?

AhmedB75
08-07-09, 11:30
Just returned from Nairobi business & mongering trip.

Stayed at Natural Oak Apartments in Hurlingham area (10 minutes by cab to the city center or Westlands, where all the action is).

Quiet, perfectly clean, save (24h security, nice guys BTW, can also arrange for girls), full privacy and very GF. Nice people, too.

Costs: USD 95 / night for a luxury 1 bedroom penthouse apartment.

There are also smaller apartments at lower rates.

Self-catering only but everything you need is available in the apartment (kitchen, microwave, cutlery etc.), supermarkets nearby (Yaya center, Prestige Plaza, Nakumatt Junction).

Recommendable.

They have a website, just google them.

AhmedB75
08-07-09, 11:35
Thanks to you both for the advice - which I will take.

A collegue has advised me to book just along the road from the 680, at Chester House. These are apartments, which are cheaper than than the hotel and am told there is a restaurant within the complex - the Fiesta - where I can get meals and drinks and some evening entertainment.

Is this a good choice at Ks 4500 / night?The location couldn't be better - 50m walk to Madhouse.

But also a lot of noise & pollution - you are in the middle of Nairobi CBD.

Apartments & furniture a bit old, but for 4500 Ks still a good choice.

They have a website, just google Chester House Nairobi.

I just stayed for 1 week at Natural Oak Apartments in Hurlingham, see my report.

Willyboy
08-07-09, 11:53
Thanks to you both for the advice - which I will take.

A collegue has advised me to book just along the road from the 680, at Chester House. These are apartments, which are cheaper than than the hotel and am told there is a restaurant within the complex - the Fiesta - where I can get meals and drinks and some evening entertainment.

Is this a good choice at Ks 4500 / night?Stay away from hotel 680, very corrupt hotel.

Gesheft
08-07-09, 12:25
Thanks to you both for the advice - which I will take.

A collegue has advised me to book just along the road from the 680, at Chester House. These are apartments, which are cheaper than than the hotel and am told there is a restaurant within the complex - the Fiesta - where I can get meals and drinks and some evening entertainment.

Is this a good choice at Ks 4500 / night?

The 680 is like staying in a bus station compared to the Hilton !
The Chester suites are quite ok ... not plush like the Hilton - but comfortable apartments .. and you can fill it with as many ladies as you like!

IvoryEbonyLover
08-07-09, 19:52
Hi there Tractor Boy,

I was in Nairobi most of last year and can heartily recommend a certain lady for you.

As a fellow regular member I cannot IM you with the contacts, but Arthur66 has them so just IM him and ask him for her number, He is in Nairobi this week.

Have fun!

Arthur66
08-09-09, 01:14
Fellow members,

I just came back from Nairobi, after one week of unmitigated fun. I would like to share with you my findings.

First of all, I stayed at the Comfort Hotel. It is a smallish hotel located outside of the town centre, it takes 20 minutes and 300 KSH each way to go to town. At 60 USD a night, it is good value for money, although a bit basic. Very friendly staff, good security, no frills. I booked a double room for a small extra charge, and it was a good idea. Restaurant and bar are present onsite. Taxi outside are in an agreement with the hotel, any issue with them go to the reception. They are nice guys as well, always tried 400 KSH, always settled for 300.

Secondly, the juicy part. After much study, I figured out that the best option for me was Simmers. Reason is that the other two standard locations do not start operating till 10 PM, which is incompatible with my need for early wake up (business). At Simmers, directly opposite the 680 hotel, you find anything you want, including beer, food, music, smoking areas, and a nice selection of girls.

Arrived on Monday morning, I hit the floor on Monday night. Scored a 25 years old lady, 1500 KSH, nice body, a bit flat as breast, but friendly and accommodating. Good oral, straight sex. Two good hours of fun.

Tuesday I took a break. Went to Simmers but did not find anything interesting, and I was kinda tired. Disadvantages of working during the day.

Wednesday I hit the jackpot. Tatjana approached me, and I was sold. Model body, slim ass, catwalk dressed, high heels, and great class. She chased me and I had no doubt. She was the one!

Shortening a long story, she came with me at the hotel (2000 KSH), and made my head spinning. Oral, vaginal, and she eventually took it even in the ass, although not to completion. She does CIM as well, and she is a real stunner, 9 on my scale. Small boobs, but her nipples are 'alive' as I seldom have seen. 22 years old, no children, good character, smoker, hairdresser student. That ass of her will fill my dreams for a long time. And she knows how to take a man. She remembers me of the Philipino girls. The more you give it to them, the more they want it. Tatjana was the same. Only danger: serious risk to loose your mind, and to get involved. Be careful.

I had her all nights, and I got completely wasted in her. She drained me.

A few advices for you all. Nairobi is a relatively safe city, never had problems downtown.

Simmers is populated practically all day long, you don't have to wait late nite for action. Most of its public is local, I saw a very few whites around.

Dress smart. Ladies will chase you down, which is the best option as you can then negotiate what you want.

Be prepared to a lot of 'I love you', 'call me baby', and the rest of the repertoire. Also be prepared to be requested to pick them up, offer them a drink, etc. I dumped the first one on these basis. 'pick me up at Simmers at 10'? Well, darling, sorry but she did not get it. She work for me, not the other way around. Keep your eyes open guys, these ladies are natural born manipulators. Always remember why you pay them.

For the clarity, I am white. I heard from colleagues that white man=money, so I might have received special treatment. But I am sure that every nice, good looking guy would easily score there.

Hotels: I would steer clear of the upper class places, Stanley included. Expensive beyond reason, I have the gut feeling that if you try to enjoy yourself, they would spoil it.

What you want is a nice, cheap and friendly place, with staff that smile at you when you come in to register your 'friend', with big beds a not pretentious. I know Comfort Hotel, but there are surely other places.

Go to Simmers, well dressed, and relax. Get a drink, sit somewhere, relax with the music. If you are white, it is your lucky day. Girls will chase you down. Just don't believe whatever they tell you.

Always use a condom! HIV is a real threat there. Do that for yourself and for you partner, spouse, fiance or occasional. It is up to us to stop this disease, and to return sex to what it has always been, fun.

And be nice. Kenyan people is friendly, so reciprocate.

Enjoy!

Kind regards,

Arthur

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Hesekiels
08-09-09, 16:11
... Simmers is populated practically all day long, you don't have to wait late nite for action. Most of its public is local, I saw a very few whites around... Go to Simmers, well dressed, and relax. Get a drink, sit somewhere, relax with the music. ...

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Arthur is right! Simmers was and is a good place to be! If you like a 2 hrs ST session after having had lunch, or you are looking for a nice girl for the entire night, Simmers has a good selection of cuties. However, I like it best at night when they are having live music plus dozens of nicely dressed girls there! :)

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Tractor Boy
08-10-09, 14:02
Many thanks to all you regular mongers for the advice, I was sure you wouldn't let me down.

I will stay at Chester House and make afternoon use of Simmers, which I see is just a short walk from Chester House.

One last piece of advice - is it safe for me (a mzungo) to go to some of the stip clubs I hear about, such as Liddos and Apple Bees & are they worth the effort. Or am I better to stay local.

Thanks in advance

Loso69
08-10-09, 23:48
one last piece of advice - is it safe for me (a mzungo) to go to some of the stip clubs i hear about, such as liddos and apple bees & are they worth the effort. or am i better to stay local.
the only strip club i visited was pango (f3). the cover charge was 400 kes (500 kes some nights), which also gives you free entrance to florida 2000 (f2). the girls will dance for you in the bar for free or a small tip. private lap dances (in the smoking room lol) are 1000 kes (only top removed) and 2000 kes (nude). as jamjam222 said, it's a good option to while away the time before the discos get packed. and you could get some girls' numbers and meet them outside work.

jamjam222 also visited lidos. he was the only mzungu there and none of the girls appealed to him.

another strip club is red tape. you may want to have a peek inside before going to black diamond (just across the hallway).

btw, they call them strips clubs, but the girls never strip naked! only sexily dressed pole dancing. no tits, no pussy :(

loso

Zircon
08-12-09, 04:12
Tell me more about the hilton I've been here some times and went to jockey bar but never find something interesting.

NanarI was at the Hilton last week and didn't do either sauna or massage. I went into the pub 2x but it was dead both times. It costs $25 to bring a girl into the hotel.

Zircon
08-12-09, 04:24
I suggest people either just go to clubs and meet women or join afrointrod. It is easy to get laid. I went to Casablanca and there were plenty of women. I was with 1 and her 2 friends. Ended up sucking on each of their tits in the club when we got drunk. Screwed my mate from afrointrod and was told by her buddy that she wanted my horny buddy to come to Kenya so she could fuck him (so long as he treated her nice). None of them asked for or were interested in $. The girls really like white guys in that country.

Tractor Boy
08-12-09, 08:39
Tell me more about the hilton I've been here some times and went to jockey bar but never find something interesting.

NanarWas a regular visitor to the health / massage spa in the hotel & had friendly chats with the girls. After using the facilities for a genuine massage (with HR), some were willing to visit my room for an unofficial massage & with them being fully qualified, you can be sure that the "full service" was excellent.

Cunning Stunt
08-13-09, 17:09
Reading my Lonely Planet Guide, this cheapo hotel in central Nairobi gets a pretty good write up.

Anyone have any personal experience of the place? Is it tolerable for a couple of nights in town? More importantly, is it GF?

Cheers.

Hesekiels
08-13-09, 18:14
Reading my Lonely Planet Guide, this cheapo hotel in central Nairobi gets a pretty good write up.

Anyone have any personal experience of the place? Is it tolerable for a couple of nights in town? More importantly, is it GF?

Cheers.


CS:

indeed a very good choice! Although it is certainly no 5 star hotel it is excellently located and IMHO the ideal place for our hobby! :) I am also a regular guest there and would recommend to give it a try!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Rontal
08-14-09, 21:47
This is my first report, to give back to forum that has helped me so much in the past. I have being mongering for the last 20 years. Because of my work I travel a lot. So it is usually short trips, very busy schedule.

A short update on Nairobi. A spend 3 days, as part of a business trip. Stayed at the Panafric. The Panafric charge 4000 to let a girl in, and the lady needs to register.

On my first day I pick-up a girl at Florida, but she did not had an ID, and she was not allowed to get in. So first night I sleep alone.

After serching in this forum I found a recommendation for the Kenya Comfort Hotel suites. It was 4000 a night for a double, so I book a room, but kept the one in Panafric because of work duties. The hotel is basic, but clean. For mongering the hotel is quite good. Very friendly staff. Girls need to register, but no surprises at checkout as no fee is charged. There is another Confort Hotel downtwon, closer to the action, but I have no experience with that one.

Action. First night I went to Florida, on a Monday. Many nice girls, 90% of the girls seem to be willing and available. I chat with a few ones, pick one, around 20 years old, around a 7, and we went to the hotel. As I said before the girl did not have an ID, she was not allowed in the hotel. I gave her some money and she left.

Next day I finish work early and visit summers. Summers is an open space area full of small, basic bars. Quite a significant number of girls as early as 7 pm. Again, 90 % seem to be available. Many look like non pro, semi-pros. Many locals, just relaxing after work.

I approached a nice petite girl, very friendly and we had dinner togethe. After dinner wile waking away from simmers I see a really beautiful girl, probably a 9-10. She was with other 2 girls, and she was very shy. I manage to say good bye to my first lady, and approach the group. I engage in conversation with the other two, but finally the very pretty one got engaged. We chat a bit, and we then went to the hotel. She was very very sweet. Slim beautiful body, small but very pretty tits, a dream. Her oral was quite good, sex was ok. We spend the night together, make love three times. She never asked or mention money. She gave me her phone number and I give her 3000 s.

Next day I went again to summers. Was thinking on ringing my girl of the previous night, while waiting outside summers. I was approached by a few hardcore pros. After a while, I see a group of four girls coming in my direction. One of them make a joke and we start chatting. One of the them was quite nice. We started to talk, I invited her to go for a drink. She append to be a student, civil engineering. At first I didn't believe her, but as we speak it became clear that it was true. Long story short, we had some drinks, later went to the hotel and spend the night together. She was VEEEERY shy, too much. All in all the experience was ok. She also never mentioned money at any time. I just pay the taxi. She gave me her phone number and we say good bye with a kiss.

It does not seem to be difficult to pick up ordinary girls. While I was at the panafric, while waiting for the elevator, I started to chat with a nice young lady. She was taking some training sessions at a workshop in the hotel. She gave me her number and insisted on going out together later at night. Just a note, this is very unusual for me.

In summary, very good experience. Will be looking to go back to Nairobi with more time. If looking for semi pros, simmers seems to be a very good place, but do not be shy to approach regular girls, as they seem to be quite willing to go with a foreigner.

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Rontal
08-14-09, 22:01
This is my first report, to give back to forum that has helped me so much in the past. I have being mongering for the last 20 years. Because of my work I travel a lot. So it is usually short trips, very busy schedule.

A short update on Nairobi. A spend 3 days, as part of a business trip. Stayed at the Panafric. The Panafric charge 4000 to let a girl in, and the lady needs to register. On my first day I pick-up a girl at Florida, but she did not had an ID, and she was not allowed to get in. So first night I sleep alone.

After serching in this forum I found a recommendation for the Kenya Comfort Hotel suites. It was 4000 a night for a double, so I book a room, but kept the one in Panafric because of work duties. The hotel is basic, but clean. For mongering the hotel is quite good. Very friendly staff. Girls need to register, but no surprises at checkout as no fee is charged. There is another Confort Hotel downtwon, closer to the action, but I have no experience with that one.

Action. First night I went to Florida, on a Monday. Many nice girls, 90% of the girls seem to be willing and available. I chat with a few ones, pick one, around 20 years old, around a 7, and we went to the hotel. As I said before the girl did not have an ID, she was not allowed in the hotel. I gave her some money and she left.

Next day I finish work early and visit summers. Summers is an open space area full of small, basic bars. Quite a significant number of girls as early as 7 pm. Again, 90 % seem to be available. Many look like non pro, semi-pros. Many locals, just relaxing after work.

I approached a nice petite girl, very friendly and we had dinner togethe. After dinner wile waking away from simmers I see a really beautiful girl, probably a 9-10. She was with other 2 girls, and she was very shy. I manage to say good bye to my first lady, and approach the group. I engage in conversation with the other two, but finally the very pretty one got engaged. We chat a bit, and we then went to the hotel. She was very very sweet. Slim beautiful body, small but very pretty tits, a dream. Her oral was quite good, sex was ok. We spend the night together, make love three times. She never asked or mention money. She gave me her phone number and I give her 3000 s.

Next day I went again to summers. Was thinking on ringing my girl of the previous night, while waiting outside summers. I was approached by a few hardcore pros. After a while, I see a group of four girls coming in my direction. One of them make a joke and we start chatting. One of the them was quite nice. We started to talk, I invited her to go for a drink. She append to be a student, civil engineering. At first I didn't believe her, but as we speak it became clear that it was true. Long story short, we had some drinks, later went to the hotel and spend the night together. She was VEEEERY shy, too much. All in all the experience was ok. She also never mentioned money at any time. I just pay the taxi. She gave me her phone number and we say good bye with a kiss.

It does not seem to be difficult to pick up ordinary girls. While I was at the panafric, while waiting for the elevator, I started to chat with a nice young lady. She was taking some training sessions at a workshop in the hotel. She gave me her number and insisted on going out together later at night. Just a note, this is very unusual for me.

In summary, very good experience. Will be looking to go back to Nairobi with more time. If looking for semi pros, simmers seems to be a very good place, but do not be shy to approach regular girls, as they seem to be quite willing to go with a foreigner.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Hesekiels
08-16-09, 16:23
... On my first day I pick-up a girl at Florida, but she did not had an ID, and she was not allowed to get in... [/blue][/size]


This happened to me once as well! I was told that this is just for our own security (which I do believe!), so nowadays I always ask the girl if she has this document in order to avoid unpleasant situations at the reception!

BTW, Rontal, a very nice report!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Rocksoff
08-27-09, 12:34
I'll be in Nairobi soon, but won't be able to bring ladies back to where I'm staying. Is there anywhere reasonably central, affordable, safe, I can go with a pickup for a couple of hours?

Local Noobie
08-27-09, 13:14
I'll be in Nairobi soon, but won't be able to bring ladies back to where I'm staying. Is there anywhere reasonably central, affordable, safe, I can go with a pickup for a couple of hours?The 'terminal hotel' is at the city center, is safe and is good for ST. It is right opposite nakumat lifestyle (a busy shopping mall) thus is easy to locate.

I have come to like 'Eureka Highrise Hotel' too. It is at the heart of the city, right opposite the main bus stop (called Kencom or Ambassadeur). Eureka is clean, private, safe and has very nice rates.

Cocoalovr
08-27-09, 20:44
You can try Kenya Comfort Hotel. Right downtown and GF. No worries. Price not bad. Next to Annie Oakleys is a small hotel associated with them. Not pricey and of course very GF. Just back down the road is a sister hotel to Kenya Comfort. Its Kenya Comfort Suites. Just book as a double at about 3600 or so and no worries.

Coogee
08-27-09, 22:24
Hey all

I am new to this site and been reading up for a trip to Kenya over Christmas and new year.

Can anyone advise the best way to book up a room in advance at the terminal hotel or is it just a case of turning up and hoping they have room. I have reached the web, but with no joy and worried it may be busy over xmas.

Thanks

Rocksoff
08-28-09, 05:15
Thanks for the responses! :-)


Just book as a double at about 3600 or so and no worries.

Hmm, if long-time with a girl is about 2000 and up, I'd have to do quite a few short-times to make the 3600 worthwhile .. ;-)

AfAsia
08-28-09, 06:26
Hey all

I am new to this site and been reading up for a trip to Kenya over Christmas and new year.

Can anyone advise the best way to book up a room in advance at the terminal hotel or is it just a case of turning up and hoping they have room. I have reached the web, but with no joy and worried it may be busy over xmas.

Thanks

I believe i posted the contact details of Terminal Hotel couple of years back. Do a search. I advise you to phone them in advance, although i have pitched up and got a room on occasion. They not on the web.

Ratbutt
08-29-09, 11:00
We normally have to stay at the Intercontinental or Serena for security reasons.
If I book a double do I still have to pay for a girl guest? I don't want those extra charges on my expenses!

Jamjam222
08-29-09, 11:01
Hey all

I am new to this site and been reading up for a trip to Kenya over Christmas and new year.

Can anyone advise the best way to book up a room in advance at the terminal hotel or is it just a case of turning up and hoping they have room. I have reached the web, but with no joy and worried it may be busy over xmas.

ThanksYou can call Francis, he works there and is a good guy. Will help you out if you have some semi "serious" woman issues (IE not only looking to bang working girls). Advice for getting GF etc. He knows a lot of Muzungus and can advice you about their experiences.

Send me a PM and I'll give you his number.

Make sure you give him something. Some cash, clothes etc. He will be very happy!