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LustyHombre
12-02-10, 22:18
I went there for the 150/- boozes in a quiet homely environment with a fireplace and nice company instead of some chaotic bar. I didn't go for the sex. 3,000/- an hr is outrageous.No need to apologize , Mjuaji . Whatever motivates you should be of no concern to any 3rd party : if your fancy gets tickled , you pay whatever you feel is appropriate , and that is it . Period .

Different strokes for different folks : in N.A. people are used to paying $2-300/hr for escorts ( and $ 1,800 for the likes of Tiffany Mynx -as I did twice so far ) .

So what is KES 3,000/hr ? $40 or thereabouts , right ?

I'd feel guilty as hell !

Mjuaji2003
12-02-10, 23:10
Of course you are right but viewed in context, if you got one hour of fun for less than 30 euros in Germany or UK, you would post here on ISG crowing about it and guys would be either begging you for contact details or calling you a downright liar.That's true. That's why Kenya is so addictive despite its problems.

Jamie69
12-04-10, 21:39
Spent a week in Nairobi recently and as I benefitede from others here it's only fair to share what I experienced.

Landed mid evening and stayed at Chester House - think it was $110 for an exec room. It was ok and fitted the bill on three counts as I had researched here - was clean, next to Madhouse, and no charge for the girls.

After a couple of sharpeners in the bar went straight over the road to Madhouse (it is an easy 20 second safe walk). Well this place was as advertised even on a Monday night. grabbed a beer and was approached immediately by a real nice girl - lots of contact and after 5 mins asked for a drink - but I was not about to be stuck with the first girl that came along so said no. This happened several times and eventually was drunk enough and was late enough to decide that Nancy was the one I wanted to come back with me. She would not talk about taxi fare so I offered 2500 KES which she rejected and it appeared that we would not agree so I walked away. Then two sisters approached me and were grouping kissing me from either side (these two became a constant with me one was called Helen and they were there every night - very tall). However they were not what I wanted (you get choosy in there) and I did in fact take Nancy back for the original price and she was great. Two rounds great attitide no hassle and still luked cute to me in the morning.

Nex day early evening I took a taxi to Simmers after dark. Two mistakes here - firstly that even though it was after dark in fact there were plenty of people around and was safe enough to walk. Secondly I was stupid enough to not suss out how close it was from my apartment - two minutes walk. The taxi driver drove around the block a few times to justify his 500 KES charge!!! My fault. Any how I didn't rate Simmers in terms of quality girls (the sisters were there) and aslo the food was crap so stayed for a couple then went back to Madhouse and eventually left with another one for 2500 who did not disappoint.

Decided to have a quietish night next so just went to Madhouse again and didn't drink much as the Ashes started that night and I was shagged out. At 2.45 i was sat on a girls lap, her tongue on my neck and in my ears, one hand in my shirt and pinching my nipples, the other down my trousers wanking me. By 3.00 I was in my room alone listening to TMS when Strauss went 3rd ball and I was full of regrets!! By the way this was Wednesday and it was bloody full and really hot.

Tomorrow is another day and I got more adventurous - picked up some Cialis and Viagra (which was easy in a chemist) to ensure I could make the most of my last few days and eventually made contact with someone from Affro who I agreed to meet later that night. Ate at Pizza Garden and not really somewhere I would return. Decided to have a couple of early beers at Simmers for a laugh and managed to get a seat at the bar - rejected the advances and waited for theAffro girl to call - she finally postponed to the next night so decided to try the orginal Florida - it was so dead. Checked out the strip joint also but that was crap too. There was one girl I chatted back to in the club which , with hindsight I should have taken home. But I thought I would get better in Madhouse so headed back there. Was pretty pissed by this stage and hardened to the scene. Around daybreak I agreed to take a couple back who were into each other also. Was fine at first but after the deed it all got a bit nasty between them to the extent that I threatened to call security - overall this was a night to forget.

Next day I met the Affro girl and was so please - she was bloody hot. And she tookk me to a few different places. Started off at Trattoria (an Italian in town) and is a good place to sit out on the balcony and watch the world go by. Then cocktails on a really posh hotel around the corner. A decent meal in a restaurant/bar at a shopping centre in Westlands, to Black Diamond which had some hot girls after 11 or 12 on a Friday. A couple of other clubs whose names i completely forget, then back to mine. She was the hottest girl I saw there and will keep in contact just in case I return. Next day went to Gypsys to watch rugby - there were some hot girls there but I had had my head turned by Black Diamond so went there - mistake. Should have stayed and taken someone from Gypsys. BD was crap so ended up back at Madhouse and took Nancy again - no regrets.

Last day spent with the Affro chick.

Overall I had mixed feelings about Nairobi - if I return I would do a couple of nights there and head to the beach as I found it a bit uninspiring in daylight. Next time I would check out the higher end clubs and use Madhouse as a last resort. Good fum, some great girls, Afro came up trumps and was not expensive.

Expat Kenya
12-05-10, 14:42
No need to apologize , Mjuaji . Whatever motivates you should be of no concern to any 3rd party : if your fancy gets tickled , you pay whatever you feel is appropriate , and that is it . Period .

I'd feel guilty as hell !My opinion:

If it is of no concern of a third party, what you think is an appreciative pay, don't post, everyone has a right express an opinion, and discuss.

I'd feel guilty ass hell too, when I'd see the poverty level in most areas compared with malayas being paid half a month minimum wage in one hour, remember, also unemployment in Kenya is 40%, means no income at all.

If it is out of compassion or generosity that makes you open your wallet, sure there are better goals you can support in this country.

No malaya choose to be a malaya, some have good education, can't find a job. Others drop out of school, selling your body makes a better income. It is from which perspective you look at "whatever you feel is appropriate".

Some malayas have a better income than a surgeon, so why finish school?

Money helps and damages this society. It is where you spend money which makes the difference.

Pay reasonable, most important, there is more to it than money only, treat malayas reasonable.

The atmosphere is getting spoiled by mzungus who pay too much, and mzungus who can't behave, girls are getting scared.

Mad Dog65
12-08-10, 18:48
I went there for the 150/- boozes in a quiet homely environment with a fireplace and nice company instead of some chaotic bar. I didn't go for the sex. 3,000/- an hr is outrageous.Mjuaji, recommended this place and sounds perfect for my needs. Can't bring ladies back to the hotel because of conference but looking for a place that has a good selection of girls where one can chat and have the action on the premise. Any other ideas would be much appreciated.

Cheers.

MD

Hesekiels
12-08-10, 19:05
Nex day early evening I took a taxi to Simmers after dark. Two mistakes here - firstly that even though it was after dark in fact there were plenty of people around and was safe enough to walk. Secondly I was stupid enough to not suss out how close it was from my apartment - two minutes walk. The taxi driver drove around the block a few times to justify his 500 KES charge!!! My fault. It is always highly recommendable to go by taxi after dark, even if it is just a two minutes walk! However, next time agree on the rate before you take the cab! For sure you will not make the same mistake twice! Anyway, think positive! Although you paid too much, but you had at least a safe trip!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Mjuaji2003
12-10-10, 01:46
Mjuaji, recommended this place and sounds perfect for my needs. Can't bring ladies back to the hotel because of conference but looking for a place that has a good selection of girls where one can chat and have the action on the premise. Any other ideas would be much appreciated.

Cheers.

MDIt's at 70 Peponi Road, Spring Valley, near the OilLibya station. Any good local driver should find the place.

Mjuaji2003
12-10-10, 02:00
My opinion:

If it is of no concern of a third party, what you think is an appreciative pay, don't post, everyone has a right express an opinion, and discuss.

I'd feel guilty ass hell too, when I'd see the poverty level in most areas compared with malayas being paid half a month minimum wage in one hour, remember, also unemployment in Kenya is 40, means no income at all.

If it is out of compassion or generosity that makes you open your wallet, sure there are better goals you can support in this country.

No malaya choose to be a malaya, some have good education, can't find a job. Others drop out of school, selling your body makes a better income. It is from which perspective you look at "whatever you feel is appropriate".

Some malayas have a better income than a surgeon, so why finish school?

Money helps and damages this society. It is where you spend money which makes the difference.

Pay reasonable, most important, there is more to it than money only, treat malayas reasonable.

The atmosphere is getting spoiled by mzungus who pay too much, and mzungus who can't behave, girls are getting scared. I actually sponsor a few high school kids. I pay max 24000 a year directly to the school and then the parents pay me 2000 a month interest-free. I insist on no-frills rural schools and end-term academic reports.

Willyboy
12-15-10, 14:02
I meet one girl. Working in Mgongo inn (hotel restaurant) Work from 8am till 12 pm. One workingday. Than one day free. Salery 6000ksh / month.

Her friend work in 2 sifts. From 8am till 4pm, or from 4pm to 12pm. Work evryday (6/7) Salery 4000ksh / month.

It is not surpriced that this girls running like fouls after mzungus.

Insite this local place. Tusker 110ksh, soda 40ksh

Expat Kenya
12-16-10, 02:44
I actually sponsor a few high school kids. I pay max 24000 a year directly to the school and then the parents pay me 2000 a month interest-free. I insist on no-frills rural schools and end-term academic reports.Thats the way to do it Mjuaji! Imagine a high school kid can be helped with kes 2000 a month (no-frills rural schools). Money well spend, even if it is a loan.

Money spent for malaya mostly goes to the bars, breweries and boyfriends.

I don't say malayas shouldn't be paid, but there are better ways to help people out of poverty for as little as kes 2000 a month!

Member #4148
12-25-10, 09:05
Before deciding on Momasa for my January mongering jaunt, Kampala was in contention.

And as is my won't I struck up superficial relationships with a number of women on Afrointroductions from both regions.

Before the flames begin of:

A."Why would you waste your time on Afro when any girl can be had for the asking?" (Answer: Because I believe. And I have no evidence to support this conjecture other than my anecdotal experience. That the Afro population self-selects for a relatively higher level of sophistication and offers an option for less-work-intensive pre-score schmoozing of this sub-group)

And.

B."What you see on Afro is not the in-person reality, moron." (Answer: I know, but often it is and see point a.)

I would like to share a rather remarkable impression I am getting of lovely and much more uniformly open and sexual invitation among the Kampala girls, harking back to what LH alluded to in his recent post about the attitude of Ugandan women.

It appears I can be exceedingly frank about my preferences for threesomes and sexual submission with them in a way which, to date, has brought not a single comment of:

"I am strictly a one-man woman dearie and I expect the same from my man."

"The Lord didn't intend man to lay with man or woman to lay with woman, dear."

Etc, comments I not infrequently receive while cybering up Ghanaian, Ethiopian (especially Ethiopian) and Kenyan ladies.

They mostly write that they will be happy to be my guide and companion while I am in Kampala and that they will be happy to accommodate me to the best of their ability.

Bullshit? Patter? A real reflection of a more fundamentally flexible attitude in the face of the grim prospect and dirty business of finding a man to whisk them away? Cultural / tribal differences resulting in a more submissive inclination? Strictly luck of the draw and without any statistical inferability?

P. S. A note to Jackson. As a fellow stickler for proper punctuation and a grammarian like yourself, you should know that since you changed your server / software, there is a sort of fascistic spell / grammar-check in effect which works to the detriment of expository writing.

For example, in the above post I have tried to convince your software that I really do want the word "won't" WITHOUT an apostrophe (I. E."tendency" or "inclination") , but your server is convinced I am a dolt and mean to type the contraction of "will not."

Also, periods and capitalizations are imposed ruthlessly and inappropriately, hyphens removed and replaced by punctuational nonsense.

I should think this would irritate you no end. It does me.

Guyt2007
12-25-10, 16:54
I meet one girl. Working in Mgongo inn (hotel restaurant) Work from 8am till 12 pm. One workingday. Than one day free. Salery 6000ksh / month.

Her friend work in 2 sifts. From 8am till 4pm, or from 4pm to 12pm. Work evryday (6/7) Salery 4000ksh / month.

It is not surpriced that this girls running like fouls after mzungus.

Insite this local place. Tusker 110ksh, soda 40kshThank you Willyboy. Am always happy to know actual prices / salaries.

LustyHombre
12-25-10, 18:22
P. S. A note to Jackson. As a fellow stickler for proper punctuation and a grammarian like yourself, you should know that since you changed your server / software, there is a sort of fascistic spell / grammar-check in effect which works to the detriment of expository writing.

For example, in the above post I have tried to convince your software that I really do want the word "won't" WITHOUT an apostrophe (I. E."tendency" or "inclination") , but your server is convinced I am a dolt and mean to type the contraction of "will not."

Also, periods and capitalizations are imposed ruthlessly and inappropriately, hyphens removed and replaced by punctuational nonsense.

I should think this would irritate you no end. It does me.I have similar beef : I always like to make a distinction between an absolute statement (which is supposed to end with a period or an exclamation mark, if I remember right) and what I'd like to call a "trailing thought" which would apply in situations where I don't (yet) have a strong opinion. I like to end my trailing thoughts with multiple periods (.) to indicate that I feel somewhat ambivalent about what I just said, but that gets always "corrected" on ISG to a single period.

2. : I like to hyphenate as well, but that always seems to be a red flag to ISG's "Grammar Nazi"

3. We were taught in GrammarSchool that you use " I. E." in order to explain something in greater detail. The ISG spell checker, without fail, changes that to "I. E" which according to my old Latin teacher just ain't the same.

In any case. And never mind grammar and interpunctation irritants. I'd encourage you to check out the scene in Kampala before you visit MBA. There ain't much likelyhood that the super hot Uganda girls who I met in MBA are the only ones reared in that culture.

Member #4148
12-26-10, 16:24
[QUOTE=LustyHombre; 1105765.

In any case. And never mind grammar and interpunctation irritants. I'd encourage you to check out the scene in Kampala before you visit MBA. There ain't much likelyhood that the super hot Uganda girls who I met in MBA are the only ones reared in that culture. [/QUOTE]11 days until Mombasa.

Anyway, I like the beach, too. Lake Victoria won't cut it.

DeepTrader
12-27-10, 18:59
I was in Nairobi a few months ago and am going back in a few weeks.

After research here I went to Simmers where due to being a relatively early bird I ultimately found all my partners.

I also tried Madhouse which was very quiet but I guess as the latest I was there was 11:30 I was probably too early.

Now although Simmers was not crawling with top totty, with a bit of patience I always seemed to find one that was in my opinion very attractive. Quite a few University girls seem to hang out here.

My question is though, what are people referring to as stunners as a lot of people say you cannot find them at Simmers but they some seemed stunnig to me.

Also if you don't want to stay up until dawn (I am working) what is the top suggested places to go?

DeepTrader
12-29-10, 20:38
Can anybody recommend anywhere to play golf around Nairobi where you can hire clubs and possibly hire a caddie?

Jbond
01-03-11, 13:16
Well everyone is talking about the pitfalls of Mombasa. I have to say the girls and the establishments in Nairobi for me have tended to be more mercernary and prone to tricks. I have had to be more on my guard in Nairobi and had to deal with more angles and agendas. I know these girls tend to travel around a bit but life in Nairobi seems to be more complicated for them and us. Maybe their boyfriends tend to lean on them more for money at home in Nairobi as to when they are hiding the sausage with clients at the beach!

Fun And Sun
01-04-11, 01:26
Since we are on the topic of dangers and annoyances in the Mombasa thread, I thought that I would also add a story about what I think was a pretty close call for myself in Nairobi once.

On my way back home from Mombasa I unexpectedly found myself with a 14 hour layover in Nairobi and I was going to be there between about 10 in the morning until midnight. Wanting to take advantage of this extra time in Kenya I decided to head into town, and arranged a hotel for myself as well. Forget the name of the hotel now, but it was a hotel that I think catered mainly to local business men and it was located close to the bus terminal.

Being still a bit tired from my last evening in Mombasa, I thought that I would stroll around a bit to see how the neighbourhood looked like and see if I could find a girl to play with. Was not in a big rush, but was hoping to have some lunch and then worse come to worst then I would bite the bullet and overpay by letting a taxi driver hook me up.

Got hustled a bit, but mainly to buy bus tickets since I was not in a touristy area. However, after a few minutes of walking I did come to what seemed to be more the center of town so there were more mzungus around. Decided to sit down for a cup of coffee to get out of the heat, so went into a cafe and got a coffee and some sort of sandwich. It was pretty crowded in the place, and after a while a well dressed black man came up and asked if he could share my table. This is not too unusual if you are by yourself in a restaurant at lunch time and holding up a table for two by yourself and the place is full, so said that that was no problem.

We struck up a conversation, and he was very well spoken and educated, and after having spent the past several days only having conversations with malayas, taxi drivers, and drunken mzungus it was actually quite good to have an educated conversation with someone. We talked about Kenya, Africa, his work, my work, how my trip had been over about half an hour while we drank our coffee. He asked a few questions about what I was doing in Nairobi (mistake here, I told him the truth that I was here for a layover only, but did not feel that I needed to lie to someone that was a decent person) , I had also told him where I was staying at, where I was from, my nationality, what work I actually do (mistake again, identifying yourself as having money). But anyway, I was having a normal conversation like you might have anywhere in the world and didn't feel the need to lie.

As we had both finished our coffees and food, and he had mentioned that he was a teacher, he asked that the children in his class often write letters to people in other countries and enjoy receiving responses with a few post cards, some local items from that country, etc and if they could write to me. I thought "why not, that's not too much effort" and agreed and wrote down my address on a piece of paper and gave it to him.

When he put the note in his pocket, all of a sudden two very nasty looking characters sat down at our table. Almost like out of a movie, one of them even had a big knife scar across his face and over his eye. They declared themselves to be the "military police" and that the other chap was arrested and should come with them for being an illegal immigrant. One of them "took him away" and the other one stayed seated and "questioned" me and also handed me his "police identification".

I had realised at this point that I had been set up, but my brain was racing with what to do so I mildly played along with the questioning. Then the other "military police" officer returned and announced that they had found 150 grams of cocaine on the guy they had just arrested, and I needed to explain why my address was in his pocket next to the drugs. I was panicking a bit here. I knew this was a scam, but I thought that they would actually try to bundle me into their car at this point, and these guys were both a head taller than me and some very tough guys so I couldn't really expect to do a Steven Seagal and make my escape from them if they did this, nor expect help from anyone in the cafe either for that matter. I thought about making a runner, decided against it, then about screaming for someone to call the police, decided against it, and as my mind is racing how I am going to get out of this situation I kept trying to stay calm and pretend to be a naive tourist.

They asked me if I did the job I had told the other guy I did. I tried to play it of by saying that I had just tried to sound impressive, I was working in the post room of that company. They asked if I was leaving that day, I said that had been a lie since I didn't want the guy to suggest we should hang out, I was staying a few more days in Nairobi following a safari, and was now heading to Mombasa to enjoy the beach. They looked a bit disappointed at this.

After a while the second "military police" officer left the table, and the other "military police" officer went into a long monologue about how dangerous illegal immigrants were in Kenya and that they needed to protect the tourists from them and so on. Quickly I realised that he was for some reason stalling for time, and then I understood that he would not try to lead me out of a crowded place by himself but was waiting for his friend to return with some real (although corrupt) police officers. I decided to make my move, stood up, shook his hand and said that "it is lucky that men like you keep us safe from these illegal immigrants. Thank you very much for looking out for my safety." Then I walked away.

After I had walked two blocks for some reason I felt that I was being followed. Don't know why, and maybe I watch too many movies, but decided to zig-zag it back through the streets to my hotel. After a few minutes of this I realised that I had actually told the guy which hotel I was staying at and maybe they would try to meet me there with a uniformed policeman. I had a camera full of nude pics and movie clips of all sorts of sex action, plus a bunch of sex toys, so even if they couldn't get me for this "drugs charge" they sure could get me for that if they searched my room.

Took the quickest route back to the hotel at this point, and ran up the stairs to my room, threw my things into my bag and then ran down the stairs again in the space of probably about two minutes. The hotel receptionist looked shocked when I ran passed and shouted is everything ok? I had already pre-paid my room, so shouted back that "everything is fine, but managed to get on an earlier flight so need to rush back to the airport". Looked in both directions as I exited the hotel, naturally no taxis, but then quickly found one. Then breathed a huge sigh of relief as the taxi rounded the corner and drove away from the hotel.

So, instead of a nice lunch followed by an afternoon of banging one or two Nairobi hotties in my hotel I spent this time sitting at the little bar out at the airport drinking Tuskers and reading a book. Was still quite shaken up so kept looking around for the police so wasn't actually at that point yet upset about doing something a lot less nice than I had planned to be doing. After all, drinking beer and reading a book in the shade is nice, but that is not what I wanted to do on that particular afternoon.

Freaked out a bit as I went through passport control, probably unnecessary since don't think they would have tried to continue their scam at the airport and they didn't know about all the naughty pics and vids I had in my bags.

So, this goes to show the wisdom of never telling anyone your name, where you stay at, what work you do, where you come from, how much money you have, when you are leaving the country and so on like I posted about in the Mombasa thread before. There are some really good scammers out there, that's for sure!

Last note, the reason that you never tell anyone that you are leaving that day (or when you are leaving) is that if someone is planning to do a police scam on you then they know that you will panic if you are only hours away from missing a USD 800 flight and will be willing to bribe yourself out of the situation much easier than otherwise.

Zimzam
01-04-11, 12:18
I came across this blog, supposedly written by a Nairobi hooker, working on Koinange Street with stories about the adventures of a working girl in Nairobi.

If it's really written by the girl she must have at least an university education, looking at the style and the "philosophies" of the short stories.

On the other hand it might come from a clever journalist (or probably ghost-writer) , also because it seems to be a somehow commercial undertaking, as one can subscribe to the stories, listen to audio-clips or even order an "E-book", all for money of course, all be it just a few shillings.

The stories are entertaining though.

http://www.nairobinights.co.cc/2011/01/episode-6-why-should-i-not-open-my-legs.html

Jbond
01-04-11, 12:47
A very good account from 'Fun and Sun' of the potential pitfalls in Nairobi. I have had similar situations when sitting alone eating a meal or having a drink in Nairobi.

If somebody says Hello, I will be polite to people and only carry on the conversation, if it is a good looking woman! Men stand no chance because I am in Kenya on love safari and men don't come into that equation. If guys try and sit at the same table, I always tell them that friends are about to arrive and I need the table. Yes, I know as we have heard the girls are invariably up to something as well but there is 50% less chance of me being scammed. Blunt and to the point but has probably saved me from many scams in my search for nirvana with the ultimate hottie.

Anyway, on a lighter note some of us must have had some great exploits to recount recently instead of all of this doom and gloom.

Jbond
01-04-11, 17:28
I came across this blog, supposedly written by a Nairobi hooker, working on Koinange Street with stories about the adventures of a working girl in Nairobi.

If it's really written by the girl she must have at least an university education, looking at the style and the "philosophies" of the short stories.

On the other hand it might come from a clever journalist (or probably ghost-writer) , also because it seems to be a somehow commercial undertaking, as one can subscribe to the stories, listen to audio-clips or even order an "E-book", all for money of course, all be it just a few shillings.

The stories are entertaining though.

http://www.nairobinights.co.cc/2011/01/episode-6-why-should-i-not-open-my-legs.html

Well spotted, very good tales of the night. I think every member should read the seven tales. This reminds me of 'Belle de Jour, diaries of a call girl' serialised in a newspaper, a book and two series on the television back home. Based on a working girl in London paying her way through medical school. The publishing house like your Kenyan girl will have had a ghost writer to add that extra 'je ne sais quoi! 'The media at the time were desperate to find out the girl's real identity, while many normal girls found that the oldest profession in the world was more attractive than they orignally thought!

I hope the girl in this case makes something out of it because when I walk to Madhouse, I pass those girls on Koinange St and it is definitely not the upper end of the business, in a really quite menacing environment.

Gesheft
01-05-11, 16:22
Well spotted, very good tales of the night. I think every member should read the seven tales. This reminds me of 'Belle de Jour, diaries of a call girl' serialised in a newspaper, a book and two series on the television back home. Based on a working girl in London paying her way through medical school. The publishing house like your Kenyan girl will have had a ghost writer to add that extra 'je ne sais quoi! 'The media at the time were desperate to find out the girl's real identity, while many normal girls found that the oldest profession in the world was more attractive than they orignally thought!

I hope the girl in this case makes something out of it because when I walk to Madhouse, I pass those girls on Koinange St and it is definitely not the upper end of the business, in a really quite menacing environment. I liked the expression such as referring to a pro as : "dealers in horizontal refreshments"

LittleTruths
01-05-11, 20:43
I came across this blog, supposedly written by a Nairobi hooker, working on Koinange Street with stories about the adventures of a working girl in Nairobi.

If it's really written by the girl she must have at least an university education, looking at the style and the "philosophies" of the short stories.

On the other hand it might come from a clever journalist (or probably ghost-writer) , also because it seems to be a somehow commercial undertaking, as one can subscribe to the stories, listen to audio-clips or even order an "E-book", all for money of course, all be it just a few shillings.

The stories are entertaining though.

http://www.nairobinights.co.cc/2011/01/episode-6-why-should-i-not-open-my-legs.html

Nice find. Thanks for the link!

Episode 6 should be made compulsory readin for every aspiring Captain Save-a-Hoe.

Bless

Arthur66
01-06-11, 14:03
If any senior members are around and want to meet, please let me know.

Kind regards,

Arthur

Barri
01-08-11, 21:51
[snip]

P. S. A note to Jackson. As a fellow stickler for proper punctuation and a grammarian like yourself, you should know that since you changed your server / software, there is a sort of fascistic spell / grammar-check in effect which works to the detriment of expository writing.

For example, in the above post I have tried to convince your software that I really do want the word "won't" WITHOUT an apostrophe (I. E."tendency" or "inclination") , but your server is convinced I am a dolt and mean to type the contraction of "will not."

[snip]


I have similar beef : I always like to make a distinction between an absolute statement (which is supposed to end with a period or an exclamation mark, if I remember right) and what I'd like to call a "trailing thought" which would apply in situations where I don't (yet) have a strong opinion. I like to end my trailing thoughts with multiple periods (.) to indicate that I feel somewhat ambivalent about what I just said, but that gets always "corrected" on ISG to a single period.

2. : I like to hyphenate as well, but that always seems to be a red flag to ISG's "Grammar Nazi"

3. We were taught in GrammarSchool that you use " I. E." in order to explain something in greater detail. The ISG spell checker, without fail, changes that to "I. E" which according to my old Latin teacher just ain't the same.

In any case. And never mind grammar and interpunctation irritants. I'd encourage you to check out the scene in Kampala before you visit MBA. There ain't much likelyhood that the super hot Uganda girls who I met in MBA are the only ones reared in that culture. Yes, it's sad that the quality of the forum software has deteriorated so much with the new vBulletin™ Version 4. 1.0. I'm glad I didn't renew my ISG subscription!

However, there is a work around for some of the Nazi spell check madness: Insert some BB Code to break up the character sequence.

- Wont.

- "trailing thought". . . (Here the Nazi spell check will insert an extra space, but you still get the multiple periods.)

Click 'Reply With Quote' to see how it's done.

Cheers,

Barri

Pagal Chacha
01-09-11, 13:51
Hi I will be in Nairobi on 1st Feb if any body intrested in drinking and hunting with please PM me:0

WhizzKid
01-11-11, 15:10
Hi, I am in a real hurru and no time to scroll through all the old postings. So please, what is generally considered to be the best, girl-friendly, mid-priced, reasonably central hotel / apartments in nairobi. Many thanks. I will have more time to read and post when I get there.

Whizzkid

Arthur66
01-11-11, 17:39
Prices starting from 90$, very central, walking distance from All hot spots. Large apartments, secure access, not newly built but accommodating.

Kind regards.

Arthur


Hi, I am in a real hurru and no time to scroll through all the old postings. So please, what is generally considered to be the best, girl-friendly, mid-priced, reasonably central hotel / apartments in nairobi. Many thanks. I will have more time to read and post when I get there.

Whizzkid

Jamjam222
01-11-11, 19:52
Hi, I am in a real hurru and no time to scroll through all the old postings. So please, what is generally considered to be the best, girl-friendly, mid-priced, reasonably central hotel / apartments in nairobi. Many thanks. I will have more time to read and post when I get there.

WhizzkidChesterhouse

Medic34
01-11-11, 22:25
Since these hotels have not been mentioned, do I assume they are not GF? ALso, does anyone else have a GF hotel besides the Chester House? I have RTFF, but not much in there about this, and the last time I was in Nairobi it cost me almost double to bring in company!

WhizzKid
01-12-11, 07:23
Since these hotels have not been mentioned, do I assume they are not GF? ALso, does anyone else have a GF hotel besides the Chester House? I have RTFF, but not much in there about this, and the last time I was in Nairobi it cost me almost double to bring in company!I used that last time I was here a few years ago and it was great, very GF with at least 3 different ways in. However prices seem to have gone through the roof there now.

Whizzkid

Willyboy
01-12-11, 13:47
Prices starting from 90$, very central, walking distance from All hot spots. Large apartments, secure access, not newly built but accommodating.

Kind regards.

Arthur90 dollar evry day for accomodation. This is not possibel for evrybody.

WhizzKid
01-13-11, 19:46
Chester does seem favourite for location and price. Would like cheaper but cannot find anything central. Does anyone know of any good self-catering apartments for rent in central nairobi?


Prices starting from 90$, very central, walking distance from All hot spots. Large apartments, secure access, not newly built but accommodating.

Kind regards.

Arthur

Jbond
01-16-11, 13:24
I came across this blog, supposedly written by a Nairobi hooker, working on Koinange Street with stories about the adventures of a working girl in Nairobi.

If it's really written by the girl she must have at least an university education, looking at the style and the "philosophies" of the short stories.

On the other hand it might come from a clever journalist (or probably ghost-writer) , also because it seems to be a somehow commercial undertaking, as one can subscribe to the stories, listen to audio-clips or even order an "E-book", all for money of course, all be it just a few shillings.

The stories are entertaining though.

http://www.nairobinights.co.cc/2011/01/episode-6-why-should-i-not-open-my-legs.htmlI see our working girl has posted again with a couple of episodes.

www.nairobinights.co.cc

Fun And Sun
01-18-11, 01:18
I see our working girl has posted again with a couple of episodes.

www.nairobinights.co.ccI'm going to have to call "bull shit" on this nairobi nights girl. I think that it's just someone trying to cash in on the trend for working girls to write autobiographies after that one girl in London made a tonne of money from her Belle de Jour book and TV series which resulted in several working girls writing similar books.

Would make me laugh if, as part of her research, she reads ISG, LOL.

I have gotten e-mails from loads of malayas, and their writing abilities are far below this nairobi nights girl. Most of them struggle with spelling and complete sentences. This girl has at least a basic university degree, and I think that even an English major would have better career options than being a malaya in Kenya.

All IMHO naturally.

Johnympole
01-18-11, 19:14
Kenyan born and' bred. Anyone requiring a flexible available wingman (In Nairobi. But also luv's Mombasa) please get in-touch. I enjoy sharing travel experiences (Not that I have much!)

Jbond
01-18-11, 19:19
I'm going to have to call "bull shit" on this nairobi nights girl. I think that it's just someone trying to cash in on the trend for working girls to write autobiographies after that one girl in London made a tonne of money from her Belle de Jour book and TV series which resulted in several working girls writing similar books.

Would make me laugh if, as part of her research, she reads ISG, LOL.

I have gotten e-mails from loads of malayas, and their writing abilities are far below this nairobi nights girl. Most of them struggle with spelling and complete sentences. This girl has at least a basic university degree, and I think that even an English major would have better career options than being a malaya in Kenya.

All IMHO naturally. You are so right, just what I was thinking!

ISG has been infiltrated.

The clear evidence points to her call sign being 'Expat Kenya' with the material written by a ghost writer.

Except she seems to favour Mzungus!

Arthur66
01-20-11, 11:23
I recently spent another great week in Nairobi, and it is time for me to report back.

This post is dedicated to a particular audience. Western white colleagues facing Nairobi for the first time. It is not a guideline for locals (they know much better than anybody else) and the rules applicable to them are different than those applicable to a muzungu. Being a white, European monger for the second time in Kenya, and having available local knowledge (Kenyan colleagues) , I thought to provide some guidelines, based on what I know and what I experienced.

First, the facts.

Arrived on Sunday afternoon, and went more or less straight to Simmers, a place where I found unconditional fun last time I was there. Got a beer, sat down, and started to look around. As usual, within 10 minutes a girl approached me, Julie. Small. 27 why / o (she said) , one child, definitely drunk. Started to chat, good vibes.

She was not a stunner by all means, but I had a good feeling about her. She was not in for business, and my attempts to gather an offer did not result in much of a result. She seemed to like me, and she wanted to spend the night with a muzungu (white guy) , even for free. We went back to my place, Chester House, walking (that is why I have chosen the place, walking distance, no taxi needed). Harassed on the way by the usual beggars (women with children on their back) , but I could not care less, they are harmless. Spent the night with her, and paid her with a kiss and a promise to be back with her later in the week.

On Monday, back to Simmers, found Julie back, this time more sober. Same story, this time agreed on a 1500 KES, good sex. She provides a decent BBBJ, and she is a hot little woman.

On Tuesday, a different girl approached me, younger and more attractive. I made a mistake there, did not negotiate fees in advance. She was disappointing. Only CBJ on offer, hot body, she came a number of times (soaked my couch) , and wanted 3000 KES in the morning. Paid her and got rid of her presence, not to repeat.

On Wednesday I went back to Simmers, but did not find anything of my liking. I was not in the right mood, probably a bit spent after three nights of fun. I decided to check out Madhouse, also at walking distance. 300 KES entrance, loud music, hard pro's inside. A few stunning women around, did not investigate offers, and I was not approached. Left after a while, Madhouse is not the place for me.

On Thursday went back to Simmers, Julie again, another night of good, relaxed fun with her. Julie does not come easily, she likes DATY but not to finish. She came a couple of times in cowgirls though. The big advantage of girls like Julie is that they do not break my balls, do not try to cheat or steal, and they keep me warm at night.

On Friday, last evening, I was approached by Lena. What a woman! Hot body, excellent BBBJ, she enjoyed sex as much as I did. She wanted to be taken on the couch in mish, than on the carpet, than back on the couch doggy style, than in bed. I do not know how many time she came, but the apartment was smelling of us violently in the morning. At a certain moment she begged me to finish, after three straight hours of hard fuck. She offered a CIM, which I gladly accepted. Damage 1000 for taxi and 1000 for her, all well deserved.

A few things that I observed and wish to share, especially dedicated to fellow westerner mongers not experienced with the local scene:

1. Nairobi centre is safe. Beggars are the only noticeable nuisance, but I never felt threatened.

2. Simmers girls are not freebies and not pro, somewhere in the middle. They are in for money, but if they do not find anybody they are happy to spend the night drinking beer and chatting.

3. Girls have a relaxed approach to safe sex. Both Julie and Lena made it clear that to have a raw muzungu dick inside them wasn't a problem. At all. I obviously declined, but you must be aware of this matter.

4. All girls at Simmers have some fascinating story to tell. Most of them say they have a job (even a shop of their own) , and present themselves as 'I like you, I love you, you are so funny and handsome'. I discounted all their stories at 100, and I advise you to do the same. IMHO, lying and bullshitting is an art in Kenya and in Africa as a whole, just do not believe anything you hear from them. The funny thing is that they know you know they are BS you. On the other side, if you have a story on your own, you would know they know you are BS them. But as long as both know of the BS of the other, there is no problem. It almost feels as a undeclared competition on who has the most original BS to tell, keeping a straight face and without making it feel too real. I found it fascinating.

5. On the topic Simmers v. Madhouse, my take is that it depends on what you want. I like Simmers because it has a 'local' sphere, with very few muzungus around. Which is great for me, as the competition is low. Madhouse is more artificial, more expensive, and frequented by both whites and affluent locals. Girls are dressed to kill, but I suspect they are after money as first, second and third priority. Simmers girls like to have a muzungu, while Madhouse girls like to have the muzungu money. And at Madhouse, if you are not dressed up in style, there is a fair chance nobody will approach you. That means you have to approach them, putting yourself in a weak negotiating position.

6. Girls are not used to long sex sessions. Their way of lovemaking is passionate but short. Local guys, they told me, are able to have two-three orgasms per night, so they do not really care about spreading out sex for more than 10-15 minutes each time. Girls, after being loved for 30 minutes maximum, having a few orgasms (they cum easy) , expects you to shoot your load and fall asleep. Sex is considered, in general, as a time where she gets pounded without too many compliments for a little time until he comes. For muzungus like myself, used to completely different requirements from white girls (the longer the sex the better the lover) could find it difficult to cope with a girl who, after less than one hour altogether (arrival to the room to him orgasming) , feels like a train has hit her. Completely wasted and a bit shocked. While the hell are you not cumming? It is difficult to understand for them that, for me as well as for many other men, lovemaking is a pleasure in itself.

7. If you like anal sex, be aware that local girls in general do not even know what is it. Let's stay liking it or even trying it. After much sweet talking, I eventually convinced Lena to get a DATY with a bit of a finger in her butt (a technique that delivers incredible female orgasms when mastered) , but that was already unheard of, and felt strange to her. And if you like refined oral skills, you got to be lucky. However, they get 'hot' easily, enjoy preliminaries (deep and very wet kissing, and boy, they can kiss!) , and are enthusiastic lovers. They can take a well-endowed man, full power, without a winch. As long as it does not last too long each time.

8. At Simmers I found that the best technique is to be chosen v. Choose a girl. Because they are not hard pros, they do not necessarily fall for the dress, the shoes or the watch you wear. Or in other words, they are not necessarily looking for a rich guy. As a muzungu, I was at the top of the food chain anyway (all girls wants to have a white lover at least once) , so if you are like me, just sit and wait. A few uglies will approach you, asking for a beer, a cigarette, or just money from you. Just say no and they will eventually leave you in peace.

9. Do not treat them as hookers. Do not talk explicitly of money for sex, and do not refer to their 'business'. In their mind, they are not hookers, and you are not exactly a customer. If you want to know what they expect from you, ask her how much would they like as taxi contribution and as a small sign of appreciation (a small gift for her. Means money, but without talking about money). You will get a figure, say 2000-3000 KES, and that will indicatively become the price per night. Beware however, no business is ever carved in stone in Africa. It is possible that the day after additional 'gifts' will be requested. Keep some spare change at hand.

10. Take into account that, for westerner standards, Nairobi scene is cheap. One Euro is 100 KES, so 3000 KES (a lot of money for a local girl) is just about 30 EURO. In Kenya there is a difference between local and gringo prices, as in all developing countries. If you are white, you are automatically rich. If you present yourself as, say, an English and a tourist, expect the level of gifts to go up. Kenyan girls are not stupid.

11. While cheap in comparison to developed countries, you (as western guy) must consider that you cannot spoil the market for locals, even if you can easily afford a 10. 000 KES shag. Keep prices down. One way of doing it (the way I used) is to present yourself as coming from a 'strange' country (I chose Singapore) , in Nairobi looking for a job (means unemployed and penniless) , and negotiating from there. It worked nicely for me. After all, if they tell you stories (like I love you baby after 10 minutes of pointless conversation) you can do the same, can't you?

12. Be nice to people, it is highly appreciated and it will reward you. There is a lot of cheating and lying going on, but it belongs to the environment. Find the right girl, and you will find a hot lover available to spend the night with you every night, for a modest compensation, and with a lot of fun for both.

13. Be prudent. Nairobi centre is not dangerous, but if you get wasted on local beer (Tusker, it is stronger than it seems) , walk around in confusional state, and drop your guard, it is almost guaranteed somebody will try to abuse the situation. Either scamming or stealing. Prepare your scene well, hide your belongings, avoid taxis if you can walk to and from destination, or negotiate taxi fares in advance. Nairobi is not London or Hamburg, all business agreements are about how fool the one is v. The other. So try to look as smart, experienced, and in the know as you can.

Concluding, I had a lot of fun in Nairobi, and I could easily consider the place as my 'retirement' option. I genuinely like local people, and I find local women much more feminine than the spoiled, neurotic, and high-maintenance 'ladies' in Europe. Kenyan girls DO like sex, even within a P4P situation.

I hope these few recollections can be of use.

Kind regards,

Arthur

Jbond
01-20-11, 22:53
I recently spent another great week in Nairobi, and it is time for me to report back.

This post is dedicated to a particular audience. Western white colleagues facing Nairobi for the first time. It is not a guideline for locals (they know much better than anybody else) and the rules applicable to them are different than those applicable to a muzungu. Being a white, European monger for the second time in Kenya, and having available local knowledge (Kenyan colleagues) , I thought to provide some guidelines, based on what I know and what I experienced.

First, the facts.

Arrived on Sunday afternoon, and went more or less straight to Simmers, a place where I found unconditional fun last time I was there. Got a beer, sat down, and started to look around. As usual, within 10 minutes a girl approached me, Julie. Small. 27 why / o (she said) , one child, definitely drunk. Started to chat, good vibes.

She was not a stunner by all means, but I had a good feeling about her. She was not in for business, and my attempts to gather an offer did not result in much of a result. She seemed to like me, and she wanted to spend the night with a muzungu (white guy) , even for free. We went back to my place, Chester House, walking (that is why I have chosen the place, walking distance, no taxi needed). Harassed on the way by the usual beggars (women with children on their back) , but I could not care less, they are harmless. Spent the night with her, and paid her with a kiss and a promise to be back with her later in the week.

On Monday, back to Simmers, found Julie back, this time more sober. Same story, this time agreed on a 1500 KES, good sex. She provides a decent BBBJ, and she is a hot little woman.

On Tuesday, a different girl approached me, younger and more attractive. I made a mistake there, did not negotiate fees in advance. She was disappointing. Only CBJ on offer, hot body, she came a number of times (soaked my couch) , and wanted 3000 KES in the morning. Paid her and got rid of her presence, not to repeat.

On Wednesday I went back to Simmers, but did not find anything of my liking. I was not in the right mood, probably a bit spent after three nights of fun. I decided to check out Madhouse, also at walking distance. 300 KES entrance, loud music, hard pro's inside. A few stunning women around, did not investigate offers, and I was not approached. Left after a while, Madhouse is not the place for me.

On Thursday went back to Simmers, Julie again, another night of good, relaxed fun with her. Julie does not come easily, she likes DATY but not to finish. She came a couple of times in cowgirls though. The big advantage of girls like Julie is that they do not break my balls, do not try to cheat or steal, and they keep me warm at night.

On Friday, last evening, I was approached byGreat report. You seem to have hit a rich seam at Simmers and you did well on price as well for Nairobi, averaging 1, 500 Kes a shot. Try 'Black Diamond' in Westlands next time. Free entry, reasonable bar prices and the best looking girls tend to go there. Some of the stunners go for less in 'Black Diamond' as against Madhouse, which is usually the later more expensive pitstop / option.

Luvemblack
01-21-11, 21:04
You are so right, just what I was thinking!

ISG has been infiltrated.

The clear evidence points to her call sign being 'Expat Kenya' with the material written by a ghost writer.

Except she seems to favour Mzungus! I disagree. I live in Kenya and know quite a number of working girls. Many have university degrees or degrees from a equivalent to a two year college. Or many are working their way through university. I find her credible since I have heard similar stories from girls I know. Especially about the "husband".

Tonkazan
01-21-11, 21:23
I'm going to have to call "bull shit" on this nairobi nights girl. I think that it's just someone trying to cash in on the trend for working girls to write autobiographies after that one girl in London made a tonne of money from her Belle de Jour book and TV series which resulted in several working girls writing similar books.

Would make me laugh if, as part of her research, she reads ISG, LOL.

I have gotten e-mails from loads of malayas, and their writing abilities are far below this nairobi nights girl. Most of them struggle with spelling and complete sentences. This girl has at least a basic university degree, and I think that even an English major would have better career options than being a malaya in Kenya.

All IMHO naturally. I have to agree with you brother, these tales cannot be the work of a Koinange street malaya. I have spent most of my life in Nairobi, and have been with numerous working girls. Yes, some do have some decent education, some are even university students, but I have never in my life come across any with the linguistic skills in this blog.

Member #4148
01-22-11, 07:23
I have to agree with you brother, these tales cannot be the work of a Koinange street malaya. I have spent most of my life in Nairobi, and have been with numerous working girls. Yes, some do have some decent education, some are even university students, but I have never in my life come across any with the linguistic skills in this blog.She has an articulate client who, instead of paying in cash, reimburses her in trade as her copy editor. I can imagine stranger arrangements.

Zimzam
01-22-11, 11:56
It seems she / he (the author of the stories) is in fact following the discussion about the reality-content of the person and "her" stories, as can be seen in the last Episode: " Episode 11: Of Coming Out Of The Closet"

This is an excerpt of it:

""And other mail from people who wish to know whether I am for real. I find them all funny and interesting.

Well the reason some people doubt my existence on the streets is supposedly because I express myself in 'proper' English and show some sense of 'intelligence'. Quite some basis for the doubts. A prostitute is assumed to be a little daft. Just like the thief, she is the loser who opts to go for the shortcut rather than confront life's challenges head on, like decent people do. To some extent there is truth in this, the same way there is some hypocrisy in it, but that is a story for some other day.""

The full story can be found here:

http://www.nairobinights.co.cc/2011/01/episode-11-of-coming-out-of-closet.html#comments

Jbond
01-22-11, 12:57
It seems she / he (the author of the stories) is in fact following the discussion about the reality-content of the person and "her" stories, as can be seen in the last Episode: " Episode 11: Of Coming Out Of The Closet"

This is an excerpt of it:

""And other mail from people who wish to know whether I am for real. I find them all funny and interesting.

Well the reason some people doubt my existence on the streets is supposedly because I express myself in 'proper' English and show some sense of 'intelligence'. Quite some basis for the doubts. A prostitute is assumed to be a little daft. Just like the thief, she is the loser who opts to go for the shortcut rather than confront life's challenges head on, like decent people do. To some extent there is truth in this, the same way there is some hypocrisy in it, but that is a story for some other day.""

The full story can be found here:

http://www.nairobinights.co.cc/2011/01/episode-11-of-coming-out-of-closet.html#commentsI am pleased that other members are coming to the same conclusion. Please note my thoughts on the Mombasa forum.

Before it sIips my mind, I must dust off the old polygraph, gags, ties, restraints and a bunch of other leather goodies in the attic for future vetting of ISG members, if Jackson so needs!

LittleTruths
01-25-11, 01:00
Has any of you Gentlemen traveled overland (either by car or bus) between Nairobi and Kampala? I was wondering, is the sightseeing or anything else in between worth the trip? Any hints about it?

Thanks

Hermescali
01-25-11, 08:00
Has any of you Gentlemen traveled overland (either by car or bus) between Nairobi and Kampala? I was wondering, is the sightseeing or anything else in between worth the trip? Any hints about it?

ThanksI did it in the other direction. You have a lot of nice landscapes. I liked it, but I did many trips like that. I spent one night in Eldoret. Not so many tourists there so the girls are very interested in single white men. I scored a beautiful 20 yo student girl with a great body. I am quite sure I was her first white.

Also on the way is Jinja in Uganda, near the source of the nile. I was there with a girl from Kampala but had the impression that enough local talent was available there too.

LittleTruths
01-25-11, 11:33
I did it in the other direction. You have a lot of nice landscapes. I liked it, but I did many trips like that. I spent one night in Eldoret. Not so many tourists there so the girls are very interested in single white men. I scored a beautiful 20 yo student girl with a great body. I am quite sure I was her first white.

Also on the way is Jinja in Uganda, near the source of the nile. I was there with a girl from Kampala but had the impression that enough local talent was available there too. Nice! Did you travel by bus / other public transport or by private car? How many hours did the journey take, excluding stop-overs? Is the road condition acceptable?

Thanks in advance for the info, I'm sure other fellow member will find such input interesting!

Bless

Hermescali
01-25-11, 16:32
Nice! Did you travel by bus / other public transport or by private car? How many hours did the journey take, excluding stop-overs? Is the road condition acceptable?

Thanks in advance for the info, I'm sure other fellow member will find such input interesting!

BlessPart of the trip I took a bus, other parts Bush taxis. Bus is ok, bish taxi very crowded and not for the faint hearted. Over the border you have to walk, but no big problem. If I remember right total travel time should be about 15 hours.

Road conditions are quite good for africa.

Expat Kenya
01-26-11, 08:07
She has an articulate client who, instead of paying in cash, reimburses her in trade as her copy editor. I can imagine stranger arrangements.Which ever way, she is getting famous.

Here's and interview http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/01/25/kenya-sue-the-kenyan-prostitute-building-a-brand-online/

Zamziv
01-26-11, 15:27
As I kmew about the nairobi visit ahead of time I was well prepared.

There was a sweet girl from Mombasa that I knew at afro a while ago.

Asked her to come over to nairobi and stay with me for all my visit (5 days)

She took the bus and came over.

I was not aware how tall she is. 5'9" slim and well built.

She arrived to my hotel at 6 am in the morning. Gave her a hot cup of tea and she jumped to the shower.

Came out the bathroom covered with a towel. One of the most beautifull african women I ever seen.

She joined me at the bed and kept some distance (she was shy)

I hugged he and kissed her and took the towel away.

Looked at her and slowly touched her all over while kissing.

She moaned and as I reached her pussy I could feel she is tottaly wet.

While my hands all over her she moved her hand slowly and touched my dick. It was gard as a rock.

It was a great week.

A lot off sweet and tender sex.

Noudo
01-28-11, 10:04
Having looked around a bit this seems to be the big issue I have with going. There is a healthy number of luxury and fine hotels. Many advertising on the net. But when it comes to low budget accommodation it is like they don't exist. It's not that I necessarily need to find the cheapest hotel around, but after having been a regular to Pattaya for some years I don't really see my self spending too much of my budget on hotels.

I think I've been averageing 30-35$ a day. And with that as a guide I really can not find much in Nairobi. Is there anythig at all?

Willyboy
01-28-11, 17:47
Having looked around a bit this seems to be the big issue I have with going. There is a healthy number of luxury and fine hotels. Many advertising on the net. But when it comes to low budget accommodation it is like they don't exist. It's not that I necessarily need to find the cheapest hotel around, but after having been a regular to Pattaya for some years I don't really see my self spending too much of my budget on hotels.

I think I've been averageing 30-35$ a day. And with that as a guide I really can not find much in Nairobi. Is there anythig at all? If you visit nairobi with budjet less than 100 dollar / day (hotel+handmoney) Than better not go to Nairobi.

Member #4166
01-28-11, 19:32
Kenyan born and' bred. Anyone requiring a flexible available wingman (In Nairobi. But also luv's Mombasa) please get in-touch. I enjoy sharing travel experiences (Not that I have much!)Hi Johnny,

I'm coming to Nairobi around middle of March, and was looking for a good 'wing man' to 'Big me up' to the local girls. I'm primarily interested in picking up non working girls in shopping malls (like Ya Ya Center) during the day time mainly. I'm an Australian expat currently living in Jakarta, but I'm only a 9. 5 hour non stop flight away from you on Kenya Air via Bangkok.

I already have several girls lined up from Afro Introductions, and of course, I'm looking for more. This upcoming trip is only for two weeks, but if it goes according to plan, my intention is to come back to NBO (and of course, I must check out Mombasa too) on a more permanent basis around mid June.

Regards,

David Francis.

Johnympole
01-28-11, 22:33
Hi Johnny,

I'm coming to Nairobi around middle of March, and was looking for a good 'wing man' to 'Big me up' to the local girls. I'm primarily interested in picking up non working girls in shopping malls (like Ya Ya Center) during the day time mainly. I'm an Australian expat currently living in Jakarta, but I'm only a 9. 5 hour non stop flight away from you on Kenya Air via Bangkok.

I already have several girls lined up from Afro Introductions, and of course, I'm looking for more. This upcoming trip is only for two weeks, but if it goes according to plan, my intention is to come back to NBO (and of course, I must check out Mombasa too) on a more permanent basis around mid June.

Regards,

David Francis.Now this sounds like t'would have been an awesome adventure. I don't want to sound like a spoil sport but I recently landed an unexpected job out of the country and might not be around. It goes till June.

But all in all Kenyan's blacks love whites if only for a 'new' and 'different' experience and yu might not have to pay for anything other than the usual dating expenses (Wine and' Dine. And' your accommodation) if you know the right places to look; experiences of joys / adventures shared as opposed to services bought. I'm johnympole et oohay dt kom and' would be glad to give my two cents if and' when needed. A word of advice: Try and' venture out to the smaller towns Nakuru, Machakos, Embu etc (One / Two hours drive with public transport readily available) if only for a day each. You won't be dissapointed.

Johny

AfAsia
01-29-11, 02:03
Having looked around a bit this seems to be the big issue I have with going. There is a healthy number of luxury and fine hotels. Many advertising on the net. But when it comes to low budget accommodation it is like they don't exist. It's not that I necessarily need to find the cheapest hotel around, but after having been a regular to Pattaya for some years I don't really see my self spending too much of my budget on hotels.

I think I've been averageing 30-35$ a day. And with that as a guide I really can not find much in Nairobi. Is there anythig at all? Read the Nairobi thread. You will find budget hotels are aplenty.

Noudo
01-29-11, 16:02
f you visit nairobi with budjet less than 100 dollar / day (hotel+handmoney) Than better not go to Nairobi.That's not a problem. I'm a bit above that. It's just that I don't fancy spending too much on the hotel. For me that feels kinda pointless. Clean, friendly and "safe". .


Read the Nairobi thread. You will find budget hotels are aplenty. .I'll give it another look. Can't say I found plenty but it's quite a few posts to look through. I might have missed something obvious.

Member #4148
01-30-11, 06:34
That's not a problem. I'm a bit above that. It's just that I don't fancy spending too much on the hotel. For me that feels kinda pointless. Clean, friendly and "safe". .

I'll give it another look. Can't say I found plenty but it's quite a few posts to look through. I might have missed something obvious. Noddy is trying to tell you about the Terminal Hotel. 30 or 35 dollars per night. Clean, safe, central, very no-frills place. No TV even.

The Nairobi choice of many a no-frills monger.

Johnympole
01-30-11, 07:23
That's not a problem. I'm a bit above that. It's just that I don't fancy spending too much on the hotel. For me that feels kinda pointless. Clean, friendly and "safe". .

I'll give it another look. Can't say I found plenty but it's quite a few posts to look through. I might have missed something obvious.There are a couple of hostels in and around Nairobi where yu could a room. Whatever yu do there is your own business, and if you are lucky you get beautiful sexy and willing neighbors. Beauty about them is that they are not too harsh on the pocket. That and th fact that you get to interact with locals who might show you a thing or two other tourists never get to see / know.

Kc Me
01-30-11, 09:14
OK, strange question I know, but I wonder what other people have experienced.

I am very careful in Nairobi, and everywhere in Kenya, condoms always for everything. But after almost every encounter I seem to pick up a yeast infection with red and itchy scrotum and genitals. It is easily treated and not serious (that's how I know it's yeast / fungus; diflucan zaps it quickly) but it is extremely annoying and sometimes embarrassing when I transmit it to someone who doesn't know my habits. Does everyone have similar problems? Or is it just me?

Nikita 1987
01-31-11, 17:28
Hi I will be in Nairobi on 1st Feb if any body intrested in drinking and hunting with please PM me:0Am looking to have my first mzungu for some naughty fun, email [Email address deleted by Admin]

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AfAsia
02-01-11, 07:44
OK, strange question I know, but I wonder what other people have experienced.

I am very careful in Nairobi, and everywhere in Kenya, condoms always for everything. But after almost every encounter I seem to pick up a yeast infection with red and itchy scrotum and genitals. It is easily treated and not serious (that's how I know it's yeast / fungus; diflucan zaps it quickly) but it is extremely annoying and sometimes embarrassing when I transmit it to someone who doesn't know my habits. Does everyone have similar problems? Or is it just me? My sensible opinion: See a qualified Doctor. Do not take advice from an ISG Doctor. LOL

Member #4148
02-01-11, 16:32
My sensible opinion: See a qualified Doctor. Do not take advice from an ISG Doctor. LOLDo what Noddy said.

Priamos
02-02-11, 20:45
I'll be going to Nairobi on business in April and have (what else?) been roaming a bit on afrointroductions. Since I've never been to Kenya before this gives rise to a couple of question. First, I've been in contact with a young girl who calls herself Pili, but whose real name appears to be Jackline, who seems very keen to secure my "company" while I'm there. Does anyone have experieces with this girl to share?

Secondly, if I hook up with her (or someone else) , what are the local procedures? There's a pretence that I come to visit her as a friend / boyfriend / suitor, so how does one approach the money issue? And, how much "pocket money" would a girl expect for a few days together?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Member #4148
02-04-11, 08:50
I'll be going to Nairobi on business in April and have (what else?) been roaming a bit on afrointroductions. Since I've never been to Kenya before this gives rise to a couple of question. First, I've been in contact with a young girl who calls herself Pili, but whose real name appears to be Jackline, who seems very keen to secure my "company" while I'm there. Does anyone have experieces with this girl to share?

Secondly, if I hook up with her (or someone else) , what are the local procedures? There's a pretence that I come to visit her as a friend / boyfriend / suitor, so how does one approach the money issue? And, how much "pocket money" would a girl expect for a few days together?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.If you have read the forums here, you will at least have noticed some posters writing about how no money exchanged hands between them and the girl (s) and how they paid for nothing apart from cab fares, food, drink, etc.

Some posters, on the other end, are almost religiously circumspect about "negotiating" upfront and making sure the girl always gets a monetary gift.

I am a veteran of six weeks in total, spent in two African countries: Ghana and Kenya. Of the between 30 and 40 girls I fucked during these six weeks, only one was found in a bar where hardcore pros ply their trade (Mecumba's in Accra). I am not fond of these places.

So I have learned a simple rule: there is no protocol, there is no "one size fits all" situation. In short, there is no rule.

Sure, if you are going to Madhouse, fee-for-service is the rule.

But when you talk about Afro or meeting a girl on the street, every girl and every encounter and every dynamic between you and her will be different.

I swear to you I have met girls who are offended by the offer of money and some who are offended when it's not offered.

This is the beauty and the jazz of Africa to me.

Nothing is predictable, scriptable or de rigueur here.

The continent of the semi-pro.

Try to enjoy the uncertainty and not cram everything into a pre-ordained box of expectation and comportment.

If your personality and taste do not allow for this sort of flexibility, I think you will enjoy Kenya much less. Or you should stick to the girls of Simmers and Madhouse while in Nairobi.

Priamos
02-04-11, 21:38
Satyr, many thanks for your advice.


If you have read the forums here, you will at least have noticed some posters writing about how no money exchanged hands between them and the girl (s) and how they paid for nothing apart from cab fares, food, drink, etc.Well, I HAVE read the forums here, but frankly I assumed that the posters were bragging when they said that they "spent a whole night with a sophmore student for nothing". I mean, if you look like Jeff Gyllenhaal, that may be possible, but.


This is the beauty and the jazz of Africa to me.

Nothing is predictable, scriptable or de rigueur here.

The continent of the semi-pro.

Try to enjoy the uncertainty and not cram everything into a pre-ordained box of expectation and comportment. Point. I should not over analyse. (A known weakness of mine.) It reminds me of East Europe 25 years ago. People were proud to know a westener. And the girls were keen to spend a night with a westerner. Because, seeing as westeners were in another class, it must show that the girl whom they fancy must be someone special. Well. If that's the game in Kenya, I'll go there armed with my youthful experiences from Krakow and Poznan! .

Member #4148
02-05-11, 09:49
Satyr, many thanks for your advice.

Well, I HAVE read the forums here, but frankly I assumed that the posters were bragging when they said that they "spent a whole night with a sophmore student for nothing". I mean, if you look like Jeff Gyllenhaal, that may be possible, but.

Point. I should not over analyse. (A known weakness of mine.) It reminds me of East Europe 25 years ago. People were proud to know a westener. And the girls were keen to spend a night with a westerner. Because, seeing as westeners were in another class, it must show that the girl whom they fancy must be someone special. Well. If that's the game in Kenya, I'll go there armed with my youthful experiences from Krakow and Poznan!But that is not the main point, I suppose.

I was not in Eastern Europe 25 years ago, so I cannot comment.

Am 47, good looking but not dreamy, work out regularly (so am fit) , shy but charming after the shyness is gotten past, reserved. Tend to think the worst of people and their motives and pronouncements (so not every proclamation of love carries me away). I also suffer dreadfully from a tendency to analyze things until they are dead.

Description furnished by way of context of my success and experience in Africa.

I did occasionally get the vibe that having a white boyfriend was a feather in the cap.

In Nairobi I payed no one apart from reasonable cab fare.

In Mombasa I offered 80 percent of the girls I was with 1000 shillings. They were all ST and all but one accepted. The two girls with whom I had a lifeless threesome asked for another thousand after I gave each 1000 separately on the pretext that the trip back to Diani from Mombasa was long. I didn't have the heart to argue. (When I am deflated and disappointed I tend not to argue). This was the only disappointing experience I had in 2 weeks, incidentally.

The 20 percent of girls to whom I did not offer money were the recipients of dinners and drinks and live band entertainment at Nakumatt on one occasion and karaoke at Nyali Resort on another and these girls did not seem in the least put out that I did not offer.

Now that I think of it, I suppose my few LT girls were wined and dined more thoroughly than the ST girls, as they were more scintillating all-around companions and I actually enjoyed their company both in and out of bed.

My advice with semi-pros can be boiled down to these principles: be prepared to pay or not pay, be willing and easy to pay or not pay, do not discuss paying or not paying until parting. If she doesn't ask and you feel like paying, for whatever reasons affection-based, satisfaction-based or otherwise, then offer. If you don't feel like paying, for whatever reasons affection-based, satisfaction-based or otherwise, then don't offer.

You should immediately have a feel for whether you decided correctly based on her response. And I think in most of these situations, misunderstandings can easily be remedied.

As the Zen poet and swordsman Basho said: Be without expectations.

Again, none of these considerations apply to hard-core pros, with whom I have very little experience.

WhizzKid
02-12-11, 13:11
I had a few days in Nairobi recently. I stayed at Chesterhouse. I booked in for just one night with the intention of finding somewhere else a bit cheaper but ended up staying at CH for the entire period. It is very comfortable and even the standard 'Bedroom' has loads of space, something I like. Security was very friendly and getting girls in was no problem at all, either with me or if they arrived on their own. I usually briefed security that was going to happen. If I stay there again I would go for a room on one of the higher floors to avoid the noise from the bar / restaurant close to the pool. I tried the 'in house' breakfast once and it was really bad and subsequently wandered down the road to the Java each day for breakfast. Although having a kitchen you can of course do your own. At no time wandering around the street local to CH did I feel threatened or hassled.

Checked in late, changed and walked across the road to Madhouse. Sheer Paradise. This was Wednesday and reggae night. Despite what has been written I found the place full of some great-looking babes. And I love reggae. The only problem with the place (and with Simmers) is that as soon as you have made a choice, you see half a dozen other stunners you wish you had gone for instead. So many girls, too little time. Anyway after a while watching the Chinese trying to dance to the dropped beat, I caught the eye of N who came back to my room for a few hours of sheer pleasure. Next day I met up with someone I had contacted on AFF. We met for lunch and she then came over for the evening, staying all night. This was more of a genuine meet such as Satyr9 refers to. No money changed hands other than meals and drinks. Friday I wandered over to Simmers too see what the place was all about. Again contrary to what has been written by some, there was a constant parade of some really amazing girls. I soon bumped into N from two nights before. She was with a friend who was totally drop dead gorgeous and I quickly introduced the idea of a threesome. A hour later the two were wandering around my apartment completly naked. This was where having lots of room came in handy as they set about exploring every nook and cranny in one of the best nights of my life, although they were not really into each other. They eventually left to go to Madhouse and was I supposed to follow but fell into a blissful sleep instead. N came back on Saturday afternoon for one last very passionate session before I left on Sunday morning. I was too drained in every sense of the word to do anything on Saturday night. There were lots of places I did not visit and I failed to try out the massge Satyr talked about which sounded good, but there is always next time. Madhouse Mzungus drool OK.

LustyHombre
02-13-11, 02:34
You should immediately have a feel for whether you decided correctly based on her response. And I think in most of these situations, misunderstandings can easily be remedied.

As the Zen poet and swordsman Basho said: Be without expectations.

Again, none of these considerations apply to hard-core pros, with whom I have very little experience.I fully concur with your observations and conclusions, except for a big exception :

I suggest you might want to reconsider the " with whom I have very little experience " bit.

I must confess that most all of my experiences are with what you would call "hard core pros". Not that I intend it to be that way, but that is how it plays out, in retrospect. Why? Because contrary to what you and I would like to think, it is not really up to you or me alone to make the choice of temporary companion. What ultimately really matters is how she signals her avaialibility to you, how she presents and positions herself to attract your attention.

In my (considerable) experience, nobody is better at pretending that she is just "goody 2 shoes trying to make it I the big city " than a consumate pro. Quite a few of my repeaters (and I always repeat with girls who give me good experiences) have openend up to me that they have a profile up on AFF or other dating sites, looking for Mr. Right. And even though they do " this " for a living, I am inclined to think that many are genuine in their desire to call it quits once they latch on to somebody for a more or less permanent relationship.

Member #4148
02-13-11, 06:42
LH wrote:

<<What ultimately really matters is how she signals her avaialibility to you, how she presents and positions herself to attract your attention.

I couldn't agree more. Hence I apply my simple African rule.

If she meets you in an innocent, non-hardcore context (AFF, Afro, hairdresser, internet cafe, etc.) , then my rules apply.

If she meets you at Madhouse or Simmers, then those rules apply.

The spectrum from regular girl to hardcore pro may be nuanced and fluid on this continent but, fortunately for me and my rules of engagement, the venues and contexts of first contact are fairly fixed.

My only expectation of a girl is that she be game to proceed according to the rules of the field of play where we first encounter one another.

True intentions and rule changes are hers and mine to negotiate thereafter.

Willyboy
02-13-11, 11:43
LH wrote:

<<What ultimately really matters is how she signals her avaialibility to you, how she presents and positions herself to attract your attention.

I couldn't agree more. Hence I apply my simple African rule.

If she meets you in an innocent, non-hardcore context (AFF, Afro, hairdresser, internet cafe, etc.) , then my rules apply.

If she meets you at Madhouse or Simmers, then those rules apply.

The spectrum from regular girl to hardcore pro may be nuanced and fluid on this continent but, fortunately for me and my rules of engagement, the venues and contexts of first contact are fairly fixed.

My only expectation of a girl is that she be game to proceed according to the rules of the field of play where we first encounter one another.

True intentions and rule changes are hers and mine to negotiate thereafter.I now more than 10 girls in afro. Running in Big tree, casabanca, casarina, florida madhouse. No different in rules between disco girls end afro girls. One distination. MONEY

Willyboy
02-13-11, 12:11
But that is not the main point, I suppose.

I was not in Eastern Europe 25 years ago, so I cannot comment.

Am 47, good looking but not dreamy, work out regularly (so am fit) , shy but charming after the shyness is gotten past, reserved. Tend to think the worst of people and their motives and pronouncements (so not every proclamation of love carries me away). I also suffer dreadfully from a tendency to analyze things until they are dead.

Description furnished by way of context of my success and experience in Africa.

I did occasionally get the vibe that having a white boyfriend was a feather in the cap.

In Nairobi I payed no one apart from reasonable cab fare.

In Mombasa I offered 80 percent of the girls I was with 1000 shillings. They were all ST and all but one accepted. The two girls with whom I had a lifeless threesome asked for another thousand after I gave each 1000 separately on the pretext that the trip back to Diani from Mombasa was long. I didn't have the heart to argue. (When I am deflated and disappointed I tend not to argue). This was the only disappointing experience I had in 2 weeks, incidentally.

The 20 percent of girls to whom I did not offer money were the recipients of dinners and drinks and live band entertainment at Nakumatt on one occasion and karaoke at Nyali Resort on another and these girls did not seem in the least put out that I did not offer.

Now that I think of it, I suppose my few LT girls were wined and dined more thoroughly than the ST girls, as they were more scintillating all-around companions and I actually enjoyed their company both in and out of bed.

My advice with semi-pros can be boiled down to these principles: be prepared to pay or not pay, be willing and easy to pay or not pay, do not discuss paying or not paying until parting. If she doesn't ask and you feel like paying, for whatever reasons affection-based, satisfaction-based or otherwise, then offer. If you don't feel like paying, for whatever reasons affection-based, satisfaction-based or otherwise, then don't offer.

You should immediately have a feel for whether you decided correctly based on her response. And I think in most of these situations, misunderstandings can easily be remedied.

As the Zen poet and swordsman Basho said: Be without expectations.

Again, none of these considerations apply to hard-core pros, with whom I have very little experience. If one kenya girls is less than 24h with you. End you not promisd to married with her. Than this girl neet money from you. All the rest is nonsens. Not one kenya girl open her pussy for free. All this storys about big taxi money is nonsens. The girl will return it home with matatu end buy schapaty from your money. If you give 2000ksh for taxi or 2000ksh pussy. From this 2000ksh the mzungu can not drinking tusker after this from this money. The kenya girls sleeping with mzungu. 1) for better life after (western union draem) 2) or for money to pay her rent. It is only 1 or 2. Way number 3. Not

Member #4148
02-13-11, 17:51
If one kenya girls is less than 24h with you. End you not promisd to married with her. Than this girl neet money from you. All the rest is nonsens. Not one kenya girl open her pussy for free. All this storys about big taxi money is nonsens. The girl will return it home with matatu end buy schapaty from your money. If you give 2000ksh for taxi or 2000ksh pussy. From this 2000ksh the mzungu can not drinking tusker after this from this money. The kenya girls sleeping with mzungu. 1) for better life after (western union draem) 2) or for money to pay her rent. It is only 1 or 2. Way number 3. NotOn the most fundamental level, maintaining that all members of a society are the same way is offensive and errant.

All Muslims are fundamentalists, all Jews are cheap, all Irish are drunks. And now, courtesy of Willyboy, all Kenyan women fuck foreigners only for money.

Just stupid and offensive on the most basic level.

Willyboy
02-13-11, 19:49
On the most fundamental level, maintaining that all members of a society are the same way is offensive and errant.

All Muslims are fundamentalists, all Jews are cheap, all Irish are drunks. And now, courtesy of Willyboy, all Kenyan women fuck foreigners only for money.

Just stupid and offensive on the most basic level.Pussy is never for free!

Willyboy
02-13-11, 20:45
Only 2 thinks are free in Kenya. 1) the sun 2) the smile of kenya girls.

All the rest. MONEY.

Not in one place al over the world is sex for free.

Maby mzungu thinking that girls in Nairobi coming to simmers or florida madhouse to find klient for free sex. Compleet nonsens.

Plaese come not with storys like big taximoney for sex.

WhizzKid
02-13-11, 20:58
Like all generalisations, this is rubbish. In my few visits to kenya I have met a couple of girls through AFF, Alt. Com or just chatting up someone in a shop etc and they were genuinely only interested in meeting someone different to what they were used to just for the sake of it. On my visit a few weeks ago, the girl in question said she was done with local guys and like so many Kenyan girls I have met, she had a high sex drive and wanted to try different things. In this instance bondage and I was happy to oblige. Sure I bought meals and drinks but I did not have to. The reason why I sometimes prefer a straightforward transaction is that once its done, its done. Some AFF contacts can be a bit clingy. Nothing too heavy but when time is short, sometimes pay and go has its attractions.


If one kenya girls is less than 24h with you. End you not promisd to married with her. Than this girl neet money from you. All the rest is nonsens. Not one kenya girl open her pussy for free. All this storys about big taxi money is nonsens. The girl will return it home with matatu end buy schapaty from your money. If you give 2000ksh for taxi or 2000ksh pussy. From this 2000ksh the mzungu can not drinking tusker after this from this money. The kenya girls sleeping with mzungu. 1) for better life after (western union draem) 2) or for money to pay her rent. It is only 1 or 2. Way number 3. Not

Jbond
02-13-11, 21:19
I now more than 10 girls in afro. Running in Big tree, casabanca, casarina, florida madhouse. No different in rules between disco girls end afro girls. One distination. MONEYBefore moving on with our adventures on safari, I would like to say Willy is just being realistic. Most women really are in it for financial and emotional support. These young women would rather be hiding the sausage with a young guy in their neighbourhood rather than pander to an older mzungu. Most of them will be working in some way or other and using introduction agencies as well to further their ambitions.

We all age eventually and this is the most difficult thing for us fellow hunters to accept, when we have just had wonderful experiences with a host of young hotties. Jake Gyllenhall and whoever else you care to mention will have to accept this fact of life one day. I sadly saw my own father experience this realisation as age caught up with him.

The working girl in 'Nairobi Nights' hinted at this and why business can be so good for her and friends because ultimately part of their work is massaging the ego of their punters. Wherever, I have been in the world a woman will sweet talk me but I know this is nothing more than part of their act and the same lines they have used to other hunters passing through on sausage safari.

Donnachaa
02-14-11, 00:50
It is my very sad duty to report that Nairobi is not longer a premier mongering destination. I have decided to bite the bullit and face reality. I accept that many will trenchantly disagree with me and will make incisive counter arguments.

However, things have changed so much in the last 10 years in Nairobi that it is just not worth visiting anymore.

There are so few places to go now in the City. Gone are the two primary hunting grounds of Buffalo Bills and the Bavarian Hotel. Never to be replaced. Where hundreds of pretty amateur girls congregated in Florida 2000 now one only finds tired wornout camels.

You can now go to Simmers. All tough weatherbeaten pros and New Florida. All tough weatherbeaten pros. I fucked them all 10 years ago. The all sit on the same stools.

Black Diamond in Westlands is a great new disco. Lovely openair terrace but regrettably just hosting the best of the pros of Simmers and Floridas- and asking for big money in the leafy salubrious confines of Westlands.

Nairobi has in the region of 8 Universities now. They churn out thousands of graduates each year. They are all professional people and no longer desperately need of the sugar daddies of old. You will get the very odd drunken or cunning exception.

And please. The posts on the Nairobi forum have become so tedious and boring that I am turning to drink to sedate my nerves.

Sorry to burst your bubbles Rafikis but the truth must be told. Thats why we come to this site. We seek the truth.

If anyone. And I'm sure there will be many building a scaffold for me. Wish to dispute. Then let them name just one. Just one place in Nairobi during daylight hours where one can buy and beer and peruse willing amateur or semi pros.

So raise a Toast to Nairobi as we mourn her passing. Boo Hoo!

Expat Kenya
02-14-11, 03:05
On the most fundamental level, maintaining that all members of a society are the same way is offensive and errant.

All Muslims are fundamentalists, all Jews are cheap, all Irish are drunks. And now, courtesy of Willyboy, all Kenyan women fuck foreigners only for money.

Just stupid and offensive on the most basic level. I have problems when people generalize, as well as when people are ignorant to learn the true colors of characters, while they could've. Most mongerers have little time or interest to get to know their temporary partners and I know we all operates in different ways.

WB is generalizing and I can not support that like the rest of you.

Satyr9 is very experienced. He can estimate different characters of malayas from the palm of his hand, I can sense that. For newcomers things may turnout different.

To pay or not to pay? I always choose pay! Even if its 500 for a newspaper or taxi when otherwise the girl gets insulted to accept money for sex. Simply because of my own motivations and standard: I am not going to marry the girl, I choose her to have sex with, not the girl choosing me and I don't wand to get in the cat and mouse game. She may refuse money not genuinely but because she is playing her cards. Many girls try emotional sabotage on two sides.

1: She accept money because she is so poor and pitiful, I have a child to raise. Its never enough.

2: How could you ever think of me that I am a prostitute! She makes you feel guilty about your acts while what she really wands is a Western Union husband. By causing a scene her chances increase with us softies.

Bare in mind that also mongerers sometimes get caught in 'serious relationship' and the girls know that, they live on hope, like their friends who managed to get a mzungu they also wand to prosper. Her chances may be less than 1% but after fucking 200 mzunges she'll get what she wands.

Let alone the girls who I see daily, who approach me, who are financially stable and I know very well!

Paying a malaya, if it's a little overpriced cab-money, a newspaper or whatsoever sets the records straight: I don't owe you, you do not owe me, and no emotional manipulation.

You might not know that some fellow posters NEVER pay a girl after let's say three or more days fun, but it happens and if something bad happens, that's the time we read that malayas in Mtwapa or so are S*T. I wish not even the biggest malaya to think of my person to fit into that category.

I think WB was trying to say something like this too, though his character is too straight forward to understand the taxi money while they'll take a matatu after all, LOL.

Willyboy
02-14-11, 12:00
Girls of the Internet, are just another form of prostitution. They are poor in spirit who are unwilling to understand.

Willyboy
02-14-11, 12:09
Make 2 different mailadresses. 2 different country. 2 different names. Write to one girl from afro. End say, I coming to Nairobi. Plaese pik-up in airport. One garanty. This will coming. Choise 2 different holiday periods. I did it. End I smile to to floor. In 20 seconds. The same girl will have one fuck with my. Willy from 2 different countrys. 2 different names. One girl in Nairobi told my that her mailbox in full with 50 to 100 mails / day. This afro is big profit. If you having mailadres from one girl. Put it in google, end 50 procent. Send you to SCAMMERSLIST.

Jbond
02-14-11, 18:09
It is my very sad duty to report that Nairobi is not longer a premier mongering destination. I have decided to bite the bullit and face reality. I accept that many will trenchantly disagree with me and will make incisive counter arguments.

However, things have changed so much in the last 10 years in Nairobi that it is just not worth visiting anymore.

There are so few places to go now in the City. Gone are the two primary hunting grounds of Buffalo Bills and the Bavarian Hotel. Never to be replaced. Where hundreds of pretty amateur girls congregated in Florida 2000 now one only finds tired wornout camels.

You can now go to Simmers. All tough weatherbeaten pros and New Florida. All tough weatherbeaten pros. I fucked them all 10 years ago. The all sit on the same stools.

Black Diamond in Westlands is a great new disco. Lovely openair terrace but regrettably just hosting the best of the pros of Simmers and Floridas- and asking for big money in the leafy salubrious confines of Westlands.

Nairobi has in the region of 8 Universities now. They churn out thousands of graduates each year. They are all professional people and no longer desperately need of the sugar daddies of old. You will get the very odd drunken or cunning exception.

And please. The posts on the Nairobi forum have become so tedious and boring that I am turning to drink to sedate my nerves.

Sorry to burst your bubbles Rafikis but the truth must be told. Thats why we come to this site. We seek the truth.

If anyone. And I'm sure there will be many building a scaffold for me. Wish to dispute. Then let them name just one. Just one place in Nairobi during daylight hours where one can buy and beer and peruse willing amateur or semi pros.

So raise a Toast to Nairobi as we mourn her passing. Boo Hoo!Sadly, you have a point. At least you experienced the good times. Black Diamond is the best but you are right in its description. This is why I only stay a couple of days in Nairobi before moving to the coast or to other pastures new.

Where do you think these girls have gone? Are they looking for Mzungu sausage more on the coast?

Hermescali
02-14-11, 19:04
Make 2 different mailadresses. 2 different country. 2 different names. Write to one girl from afro. End say, I coming to Nairobi. Plaese pik-up in airport. One garanty. This will coming. Choise 2 different holiday periods. I did it. End I smile to to floor. In 20 seconds. The same girl will have one fuck with my. Willy from 2 different countrys. 2 different names. One girl in Nairobi told my that her mailbox in full with 50 to 100 mails / day. This afro is big profit. If you having mailadres from one girl. Put it in google, end 50 procent. Send you to SCAMMERSLIST.I did the Afro test in several countries over several years. Last in 2009 in Uganda and Kenya. I met several girls. Most were working. 2 of them I met at work. I was a "hairdresser", but met me in the afternoon, fucked me silly for two hours and left without wanting taxi money and knowing she wouldn't see me again. One was a hardcore hooker with a fake photo, so kicked her out immediately.

One of the office girls just wanted me to bring her a vibrator, which I gladly did. The other office girl just asked me to buy her a girl for lesbian fun, which I also did,

Of course it took time to sort ut the good from the bad. Of course I wasn't searching in hookers paradise Mombasa.

That said I also had several prostitutes. Then it was clear from the beginning that I would pay. Like everywhere.

But it is defanitely possible to score for free (of course you pay for food and drinks) for a few days in Kenya. But I guess only if you also have some game in your home country.

Polar1234
02-14-11, 21:15
Hello,

Kenya is great and kenyan girls are even better.

I met my wife at Afro. Very nice slim girl with no children. Good job where she makes around 150 000 ksh per month. I know that several of her female collegues would be very happy to meet nice muzungus up to 50 years old as long as they are well behaved and have some money.

I also met Afri women in Uganda and in different european countries. Always a nice way to find beautiful freebies and most know how to fuck!

Africa is the last paradise for muzungus where you can find well educated, beautiful girl just for being a nice white guy.

Enjoy!

Member #4148
02-15-11, 16:15
There seems to be a dichotomy in the present thread of "to pay or not to pay" aka "are all African girls only after money?" between those who generalize the entire distaff African population and those who realize that life is more diverse than this.

I would suggest the following paradigm change.

Instead of thinking of African women and their ultimate motivations, think about women everywhere and their motivations.

Now, lest I be accused of sexism, now extend the question to everyone everywhere, regardless of sex.

Most folks who are in search of plighting their troughs or embarking on any LTR, tend to consider the financial circumstances of his / her partner and how a LTR will benefit his or her portfolio.

Men are as leery of hooking up with deadbeat women as women are toward men.

But the courtship is rare which includes the exchange of legal tender after every initial sexual coupling. In fact, only those which begin with a man and a prostitute (or a woman and her gigolo) and progress to LTR would fit this model.

Now, if all intimate, long-term relationships are power / financially based, at least in part, then it is a necessary conclusion that not every preliminary / early sexual encounter must involve the exchange of cash.

Not even in Africa.

QED.

Not saying don't pay. I'm saying the universe is more diverse than WB and others suggest.

Jbond
02-15-11, 17:19
There seems to be a dichotomy in the present thread of "to pay or not to pay" aka "are all African girls only after money?" between those who generalize the entire distaff African population and those who realize that life is more diverse than this.

I would suggest the following paradigm change.

Instead of thinking of African women and their ultimate motivations, think about women everywhere and their motivations.

Now, lest I be accused of sexism, now extend the question to everyone everywhere, regardless of sex.

Most folks who are in search of plighting their troughs or embarking on any LTR, tend to consider the financial circumstances of his / her partner and how a LTR will benefit his or her portfolio.

Men are as leery of hooking up with deadbeat women as women are toward men.

But the courtship is rare which includes the exchange of legal tender after every sexual coupling.

Now, if all intimate relationships are power / financial based, at least in part, then it is a necessary conclusion that not every preliminary / early sexual encounter must involve the exchange of cash.

Not even in Africa.

QED.

Not saying don't pay. I'm saying the universe is more diverse than WB and others suggest. As 'Donnachaa' quite rightly mentioned onwards with enthralling adventures on love safari. 'Willyboy' in his own unique and entertaining way is just saying be careful out there and the health warning is with regards most Kenyan girls and their sisters wherever you maybe in the world but note not all. Mere realism, when a young hottie is with an older mzungu. When some of the guys used to come and visit me in South America and new / not sure about the P4P scene, I used to say to them what is more expensive free sex or paid for sex and they soon understood. These girls on Afro, if given the opportunity to find a chink in your armour are trying to play for much higher stakes. Even if it only ends up with drinks, nice meal, movie and cab fare this is still more than pulling and paying for a hottie as a one off and playing hide the sausage with her! Any girlfriend or wife worth her salt will always cost you considerably more. My ex wife topped the charts on how much sex cost with her on average per event in between headaches and I am still paying to this day without any of the benefits!

Member #4178
02-15-11, 18:29
I don't see any logic explaining your position to the member because this debate,

From the early life of this website, will hold forever. No winners no losers and clearly no logic!

The camp of guys that don't pay like myself are generally get artillery fire from others that pays.

So the best thing is to leave out of the forum. Its complex issue and logic is the last variable in the equation.

Anyway I like to thanks again for the "afro" idea. It will be tested next week in Uganda follows by a reports.

Expat Kenya
02-16-11, 11:12
Make 2 different mailadresses. 2 different country. 2 different names. Write to one girl from afro. End say, I coming to Nairobi. Plaese pik-up in airport. One garanty. This will coming. Choise 2 different holiday periods. I did it. End I smile to to floor. In 20 seconds. The same girl will have one fuck with my. Willy from 2 different countrys. 2 different names. One girl in Nairobi told my that her mailbox in full with 50 to 100 mails / day. This afro is big profit. If you having mailadres from one girl. Put it in google, end 50 procent. Send you to SCAMMERSLIST.So what the ladies you find on certain websites, in nightclubs and beaches are cheap. Isn't that what you're looking for? Easy going, cooperative, cheap company and sex with no strings attached.

Malayas will always follow the mongerer and visa versa, that doesn't say that there are no sincere non- or semi professional girls out here. After tagged now also Afro is stuffed with malayas, what dating site next?

Afro probably started with some serious girls and now it gets flooded with malayas too, obviously because mongerers discovered Afro. The fact where you find malayas on Afro doesn't mean that, because you found them there, all of them are just the same. Probably this dating site started with a number of sincere girls, they find mongerers looking for semi or non-prof, than proffessional malayas looking for mongerer finds Afro and there we go, they are all malayas!

I won't deny the percentage of what is considered prostitutes in western perspective is very high but people are different, you can not generalize if among thousands there is even one sincere girl. How do you approach girls and do you count the ones that never replied?

Isn't it the same with us mongerers. We operate from different motivations, we have different ages, different approach. One pays too much, the other pays nothing at all, one is happy to be offered free sex, the other insist he pays. Some of us are old, some are athletic and young, some enjoy other features of Kenya while others hate the country and just come to fuck. I prefer non. Or semi professional, the other chooses hard core malaya. Can a Kenyan say we are all the same?

No matter what kind of girl you're looking for, you will find her in Kenya. Only if you're looking for a sincere girl, the 'market' is getting tight and do not assume your money will buy everything. You can get a malaya, you can get a semi-prof very easy, a smile will do, but when it comes to a sincere girls, stop looking on the tourist beaches, bars and nightclubs, tagged, Afro and places where other mongerers are looking for malaya and malaya are looking for mzungu money. If you're looking for an innocent girl for cheap sex, keep on dreaming guys, the fake malayas follow wherever you step and the shy sincere girls don't even get the chance to talk to you.

It's a service for money or expectation thing.

You can't judge a malaya for asking money for a service. What you top up on dinner and drinks is your own choice, you wand sex only or you also wand their company? Didn't you already know they might expect something to pay the rent, to buy chapatti or milk for the child? It is fair guys.

If that's too much to ask, why come to a country where as a mzungu you can feel good being appreciated by just being yourself and get the best fuck, company or not, for the cheapest money.

Better watch out, these forums are full with warnings about cheeky girls looking for 'serious relationship' with western union mzungu while they just keep on fucking around with fellow mongerers and boyfriends. Now it seems it's us against them in terms of sincerity. You can not blame a girl for dreaming of a better life, why do you think they start to do prostitution, really to stay hungry but at least sexually satisfied? Aren't all women all over world ambitions and why should that be different in Kenya!

Fact is, you come to Kenya for sex, you will what you wand, so don't complain if you're just getting what you're paying for and what you're looking for. It's a service for a service, not us against them.

Willyboy
02-22-11, 11:49
Insite one mail, I write. I not want love with you but fun end sex. Than her answer was coming. Like 200 dollars is it okey with you willy, are you on line we chat.

Jbond
02-23-11, 11:40
Insite one mail, I write. I not want love with you but fun end sex. Than her answer was coming. Like 200 dollars is it okey with you willy, are you on line we chat.Well you know what to say, when writing to her and don't hold back. I have had a look at Afro recently and most of the good looking ones, I have spotted selling their pussy in some joint or other. Maybe a good idea to say," I actually meant 200 KES"! One of those who thinks you are not only the froth on one cup of capuccino but probably the whole month's worth from a well known coffee outlet. I am looking forward to next week in Black Diamond. There are always one or two there who try it on. Don't get me wrong still the best place in Nairobi, just adds to the entertainment.

PetePunter
02-25-11, 18:52
Does anyone have an opinion on the Sentrim 680 Hotel? Is it girl friendly? Also what type of a place is it? Furthermore whats my best bet for finding action in that area? I am only around for 4 or 5 days, would prefer somewhere I can go in the late afternoon and select a girl.

Thanks in advance.

Pete

Willyboy
02-25-11, 19:53
Does anyone have an opinion on the Sentrim 680 Hotel? Is it girl friendly? Also what type of a place is it? Furthermore whats my best bet for finding action in that area? I am only around for 4 or 5 days, would prefer somewhere I can go in the late afternoon and select a girl.

Thanks in advance.

PeteNOT go to hotel 680, mistake.

Member #4349
03-19-11, 04:47
I've got 4 or 5 days coming up in nairobi middle next month. I'm really only interested in pussy, should I stay in Nairobi or go to Mombassa?

Bide59
03-21-11, 09:12
B,

Go to Mombasa if you can, it's no point in staying 5 days in Nairobi if you really want to have pussy only. Take a short flight to Mombasa, low as 40USD one way and book a hotel close to the action. Nairobi is expensive, and most of the girls are pretty spoiled IMHO. In Mombasa you will get more action for your cash.

Good luck!


I've got 4 or 5 days coming up in nairobi middle next month. I'm really only interested in pussy, should I stay in Nairobi or go to Mombassa?

Earthdog
03-25-11, 15:50
I've got 4 or 5 days coming up in nairobi middle next month. I'm really only interested in pussy, should I stay in Nairobi or go to Mombassa?Nairobi is too much damned effort these days. And prices are getting silly. If you just want pussy, then there is much more on offer, and more variety, in Mombasa.

If you do stay in Nbi (and it IS a great place) go out of the town centre. There are some great street-girls on Argwings Khodek Road (if you want to save buying drinks first). About 200 metres away from the petrol satation, heading towards the Ya-YA, you'll usually find a really hot Luo babe called Mary (she's the one in the business suit at 9:00pm). She's 30 something, but goes all night long for 3, 000bob. There are also some very young girls on that street (too young to get into clubs).

There are still a lot of great girls / women in Roasters on Thika Road, which is much more relaxed than the places in town. Or if its the weekend, and you are into slightly more mature women, go up to the Blue Posts in Thika. If you meet a couple of cousins called Margaret and Elizabeth, who are often there on a Saturday, you had better be in good condition!

Or, you could head up-country. Best hunting ground in Kenya is still The White Rhino in Nyeri. If you can't score in that bar, you are never going to score anywhere. And at the weekend you are spoiled for choice. Or Nakuru. The Kuntse is a well-named hotel if you want a couple of young hot Masaai babes (but ask to see some I'd. A couple are mature looking, but on the dodgy side of legal). Or the Stem Hotel if you are looking for some mature action.

Ah, Kenya. When's my next leave due?

Member #4349
03-26-11, 16:58
Sounds interesting, quick googlemaps check shows the Silver Springs Hotel at the end of that road.

Is that a monger friendly, or too upmarket? (in Africa?)

If I've only a couple of days this sounds like a good hunting area.

Earthdog
03-27-11, 02:32
The hot Luo babe on AK Road is actually called ALICE. Thoroughly recommended.

And if you fancy something a bit older, pop around the corner to Ngong Hills Hotel. Something always on offer there.

Ah, Bill's. Don't we all miss Bill's?

Earthdog
03-28-11, 14:05
Sounds interesting, quick googlemaps check shows the Silver Springs Hotel at the end of that road.

Is that a monger friendly, or too upmarket? (in Africa?)

If I've only a couple of days this sounds like a good hunting area.Haven't been in the Silver Springs for ages. It's not a bad hotle, but unless it's changed, it's definitely not too up-market. I don't remember there ever being many girls IN the hotel. But there are always several just across the road near the petrol stations, and in the shopping area.

DON'T go to the Gracia / Grace House just behind the YaYa. It is full of Christian missionaries.

Hesekiels
04-01-11, 21:54
Does anyone have an opinion on the Sentrim 680 Hotel?One year ago I was staying at 680 and had some trouble with the floor guards to bring a girl to my room, even during daytime! However, as soon as the cuty was duly registered at the reception, it was no problem at all! I assume it is still the same today, isn't it!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Leo2000
04-04-11, 16:14
Hi.

Will be arriving on 11th in Nairobi on business trip. Will be staying for 2 days at the Red Court hotel provided by my cleint. I will be on my own from the next 3 days and looking for guest friendly hotel in city center in the range of USD 50 to 75. Would appreciate for any suggestions.

Thanks,

Leo

Pete Benetar
04-06-11, 20:40
I'm interested in some hotels in the $100 USD range or less that has favorable reviews and decent location for action (anywhere near Madhouse?). Prices below are off of hotels dot com for last week in April with varied guest / star ratings. Any responses by folks who've stayed here (or any other places ok for newbies!) would be MUCH appreciated.

SIXEIGHTY HOTEL 88 USD.

CROWNE PLAZA HOTEL 137 USD.

HILTON NAIROBI 137 USD.

HOTEL KIPEPO 52 USD.

WEST BREEZE 98 USD.

KHWEZA B and B 60 USD

Shark212
04-07-11, 13:31
Hello, I am flying into Nairobi this summer and was wondering if anyone could tell me where they have the women with the biggest asses. Nairobi or Mombasa. I like lightskinned women but I will settle for a dark one with a BIG ass. Which ones are friendlier? I hear Mombasa is cheaper but I am not sure. Is there a problem bringing my girl in for the night and is it easy for a white man to pick up a regular girl. Or should I say how easy is it. What should I look out for? I hear some girls will drug you and rob you.

Nxtgen Mgr
04-08-11, 21:12
Never did I have had a chance to choose from such a huge selection just available.

Florida on the first floor just besides the Gas Station is the place to start with. Have girls there from all over Africa, available in all shapes and sizes. Always fix the rate before you leave. I was in Nairobi for about a month and whenever I have hit the place have never been disappointed.

Gypsy is one place where you can hang out. This place is to get picked and not to pick up. You will find some pros but the crowd which comes to this place are mostly expats, a very decent place with some space made available for the dance floor.

Artcaffe the coffee shop on the ground floor of the westgate shopping mall is a another place to hang out where you can fish out some good gems if you are lucky enough. I was able to hit the Jackpot thrice there. Also the whole shopping mall has other places to hangout and try your luck.

I did also hit on the other regular places mentioned in this forum but was left wnting for quality at almost all of them.

Happy hunting.

BR

Bulik
04-24-11, 07:43
I'm interested in some hotels in the $100 USD range or less that has favorable reviews and decent location for action (anywhere near Madhouse?). Prices below are off of hotels dot com for last week in April with varied guest / star ratings. Any responses by folks who've stayed here (or any other places ok for newbies!) would be MUCH appreciated.

SIXEIGHTY HOTEL 88 USD.

CROWNE PLAZA HOTEL 137 USD.

HILTON NAIROBI 137 USD.

HOTEL KIPEPO 52 USD.

WEST BREEZE 98 USD.

KHWEZA B and B 60 USDI have been staying at Chester House for some years now. I always enjoy it there and it's in the city centre so everything is near. I think a basic room runs around $100 per nite.

Willyboy
04-24-11, 20:45
I have been staying at Chester House for some years now. I always enjoy it there and it's in the city centre so everything is near. I think a basic room runs around $100 per nite.Evrybody is free to pay this amount (not my money) But this is one month salery from normal worker in Kenya. If you stay insite this accomodation. Than girls will asking from you 5000ksh / night end more.

Bulik
04-25-11, 20:45
Evrybody is free to pay this amount (not my money) But this is one month salery from normal worker in Kenya. If you stay insite this accomodation. Than girls will asking from you 5000ksh / night end more.Willyboy. Thanks for your input. But I am not Kenyan so my standards are maybe different. Normal Kenyan worker, not sure what you consider Normal but I consider my girlfriend a Normal Kenyan worker and she pulls in much more than $100 per month. If I was just going for a short time / quickie maybe I would try the Normal Kenyan places, but I am there every 3 months and I enjoy a nice place to stay. It's within my budget! Every man knows his limits.

Bulik Out

Jiggydus
04-26-11, 07:03
Willyboy. Thanks for your input. But I am not Kenyan so my standards are maybe different. Normal Kenyan worker, not sure what you consider Normal but I consider my girlfriend a Normal Kenyan worker and she pulls in much more than $100 per month. If I was just going for a short time / quickie maybe I would try the Normal Kenyan places, but I am there every 3 months and I enjoy a nice place to stay. It's within my budget! Every man knows his limits.

Bulik OutHaving worked and vacationed in West and East Africa, I will say that the only time I would stay in 100+USD hotels is if my organization is footing the bill (work requirements often dictate this to be the case. Internet access, restaurant, meeting rooms, etc). But when I go for personal reasons, I only seek out 50USD hotels. I have noticed that women do up their asking price / accepted donation when one stays in the higher end hotels. Yet I have been able to score 9 and 10 rated women whether I stayed in best or even low budget hotel. The main difference was that I did not get badgered for more or the "this is not enough" when the deed was done. So continue spoiling the scene. I hope you have as deep pockets as some government workers. However, for us practical private sector business people, I will respect the local economy and gift accordingly. Right now, I am cheap charlie-ingly my way in AC, but will be back to West and East Africa in a few months.

Also, the last time I talked to some ladies in Mombasa, Nairobi, and Kampala, they mentioned that some muzungos disrespect the local people when they come in throwing their money around. Some are willing to take what they can get, but they still see it as disrespect. And it contributes to the differential pricing in everything as it relates to foreigners and locals.

Jiggydus
04-26-11, 07:08
Willyboy. Thanks for your input. But I am not Kenyan so my standards are maybe different. Normal Kenyan worker, not sure what you consider Normal but I consider my girlfriend a Normal Kenyan worker and she pulls in much more than $100 per month. If I was just going for a short time / quickie maybe I would try the Normal Kenyan places, but I am there every 3 months and I enjoy a nice place to stay. It's within my budget! Every man knows his limits.

Bulik OutI forgot to mention that it is true that the average salary for most service sector workers is 100USD. Those working in professional jobs do earn more, but even then I have found the average to be about 600USD. So it is indeed absurd to pay a lady 100+USD per night as if she even just logs 15 days of paid action, that would be more than double the going wage of even most professional workers who work in finance, medical, engineering, etc.

Willyboy
04-26-11, 09:52
I forgot to mention that it is true that the average salary for most service sector workers is 100USD. Those working in professional jobs do earn more, but even then I have found the average to be about 600USD. So it is indeed absurd to pay a lady 100+USD per night as if she even just logs 15 days of paid action, that would be more than double the going wage of even most professional workers who work in finance, medical, engineering, etc.Insite Kenya. You having local websites for escort service. This prices are 1000ksh / one h. End remember that this are prices. 50procent for the girls.

Yes. 10 procent from workers in Kenya having more than 10. 000ksh / month. Also the president having 20. 000 EURO / one month. One schoeclainer have 20ksh for 20 minutes hard work.

Bulik
04-26-11, 14:46
I forgot to mention that it is true that the average salary for most service sector workers is 100USD. Those working in professional jobs do earn more, but even then I have found the average to be about 600USD. So it is indeed absurd to pay a lady 100+USD per night as if she even just logs 15 days of paid action, that would be more than double the going wage of even most professional workers who work in finance, medical, engineering, etc.Jiggydus. Thanks for your input aswell. I didn't say I paid ladies $100 per nite. I don't pay per nite. What I was saying is that I have a girlfriend there in Kenya, so that eliminates the per nite price that you say I am driving up and spoiling the scene. I was saying that I pay $100 per nite for the hotel I stay in, it's a very decent hotel, free internet, cheap lanudry, good television, a resturant with good cheap food, good security and a very good location. What I stated said nothing about paying a woman. I was strictly stating hotel information. As for throwing money away, I don't do that, maybe thats the reason I can pay $100 a nite for a decent hotel for me and my lady to relax and enjoy our time together. I have never knocked anyone for where they stay, everyone has a budget they have to stick to so they can enjoy without going broke. I have stayed in $50 a nite hotels, $20 a nite hotels even Hostiles, I used to stay at my girlfriends apartment until she took on a roomate.

Jiggydus. Please read my posts again and let me know where it said I pay a woman $100 per nite because that would be a little absurd in Kenya or most other African nations. I have worked and lived in Africa for the past 20 years so I am up to date. Hell I even know how much a semester of college cost there in Kenya!

Its not me driving the prices up,

Bulik Out

Jiggydus
04-27-11, 06:21
Jiggydus. Thanks for your input aswell. I didn't say I paid ladies $100 per nite. I don't pay per nite. What I was saying is that I have a girlfriend there in Kenya, so that eliminates the per nite price that you say I am driving up and spoiling the scene. I was saying that I pay $100 per nite for the hotel I stay in, it's a very decent hotel, free internet, cheap lanudry, good television, a resturant with good cheap food, good security and a very good location. What I stated said nothing about paying a woman. I was strictly stating hotel information. As for throwing money away, I don't do that, maybe thats the reason I can pay $100 a nite for a decent hotel for me and my lady to relax and enjoy our time together. I have never knocked anyone for where they stay, everyone has a budget they have to stick to so they can enjoy without going broke. I have stayed in $50 a nite hotels, $20 a nite hotels even Hostiles, I used to stay at my girlfriends apartment until she took on a roomate.

Jiggydus. Please read my posts again and let me know where it said I pay a woman $100 per nite because that would be a little absurd in Kenya or most other African nations. I have worked and lived in Africa for the past 20 years so I am up to date. Hell I even know how much a semester of college cost there in Kenya!

Its not me driving the prices up,

Bulik OutMy apologies. I used the wrong figure. Actually I was pinpointed on the 5000ksh that some ladies request as a starting amount. When I was in Mombasa, this supposed "student" I met in Casaurina (yeah we all know that the only students that hang out at Casaurina are pH. D hoes) asked me for 4500ksh. I said no way and only passed her 1200ksh plus 200ksh for taxi (total of 16USD). I even let her enjoy the breakfast the guesthouse provided for one person. I left out and went back to my hotel. But if more punters agree to 5000ksh (60USD) just because they are 1) drunk. 2) think the lady is world class fine, or 3) sympathetic to her hardships and want to be the knight in shining armor at least for the night or week, it does have a cascading effect since these women DO TALK with each other and share pertinent INTEL. Like how much they are able to score from the muzungos. So when a good percentage of punters, be they Italian, Asian, Europeans, American, or South African start pricing up the market, the affect will be felt by all who come afterward. The trend can be seen in many places that used to be excellent mongering locations but not so much now. Like Brazil, Bali, etc.

Additionally, I am currently in AC right now and I have seen altruistic, well-off "mongers" splashing cash on the bar girls. One of them happened to be a black guy and I guess he was trying to personally change the perception that black men are stingy tippers. So he took to tossing 50php bills toward a throng of bar girls in One Eyed Winch. Almost caused a major commotion and stampede as girls dashed from the other side of the bar and from the stage down to grab what they could. Well, I was doing nothing of the sort. I operate more like the smart Koreans (not the cash flashers but the cheap charlie koreans who get to the club as soon as the shift changes, buys themselves just a drink, make their pick of the gems available, bar fine her and then go off to have their fun). I am sympathetic to people's hardships but realize that just one person CANNOT solve or improve their plight (hell, multimillionaire lottery winners have gone bankrupt trying to do just that!). I believe the school of thought of making people use their ingenuity and work ethic to earn their keep is a better option than charity. So that thought is why I adhere to respecting the local economy. I have no beef about where a person chooses to lay their head for the night and I like others do have standards. I just am offended when a hotel in Africa tries to charge an exorbitant rate for what I consider basic accommodations which is a clean room, clean running hot water, an AC, and TV. I have been able to obtain that plus free broadband internet access here in AC for only 37USD per night. You can't find that at that price in Africa because of all of the corruption (informal taxation). So when in Africa, I settle for slightly less than ideal accommodations (I. E. No internet access) and pay around 50USD.

Lastly, I was not attacking you. What you do is your business. And again I own up to my mistake so let's go forth and monger in peace!

BKKguy
04-28-11, 13:27
I have stayed in Hotel Kipepeo in River Road in CBD. Nice hotel, clean, safe and descent brkfast.

$52 is a standard room and $70 is for a slightly larger room.

Difference? Standard rooms are street facing and are loud. There is no aircon in this facility so you need to keep the windows open. Street facing rooms are too loud. So, other times I ask for a more spacious room facing the alley in the back. Those are the $70 / night rooms.

Hotel is GF. Just inform the desk clerk that you intend to bring over someone. If they don't pass the night you will not be charged double occupancy. Or slip the doorman some bobs and they will look the other way when you head upstairs.

Good hotel, but being in the middle of CBD there's lots of traffic.

If you want to stay in Westlands, also consider the Progressive Park Hotel. It's located next to WestLake Mall (across from Ukay Centre, on Mwanzi Road).

It's actually an old appt complex where you can rent a one bedroom (furnished) flat for $100 / night. 2 bedrooms go for $220 / night. Free wifi, gym and B&B. It's very clean and safe. Also GF (I guess?) since I never stop by the lobby when going up to my flat, I just bring girls up there with no problems.

Happy hobbying-

Guy.


I'm interested in some hotels in the $100 USD range or less that has favorable reviews and decent location for action (anywhere near Madhouse?). Prices below are off of hotels dot com for last week in April with varied guest / star ratings. Any responses by folks who've stayed here (or any other places ok for newbies!) would be MUCH appreciated.

SIXEIGHTY HOTEL 88 USD.

CROWNE PLAZA HOTEL 137 USD.

HILTON NAIROBI 137 USD.

HOTEL KIPEPO 52 USD.

WEST BREEZE 98 USD.

KHWEZA B and B 60 USD

BKKguy
04-28-11, 13:36
Jiggydus-

I'm a black monger (Canadian of Senegelese descent). I have to at times flash the cash just to get attention as most bargirls are UTRs think I'm african and don't have money! It's actually quite funny!

First I don't get any attention then when I approach girls and they hear my accent (french canadian / north american) I 'm propositioned as a white mzungu with higher prices. (which I don't pay). For instance in KE I'm often asked to pay $100 / night. Outlandish.

So what do I do?

I buy drinks and invite girls over to my table, afterwhich they hear my accent and know I'm a quality prospect.

I don't pay high prices though. That's what these fora are for, to know going rates and not upset the market. I pay somewhere betw 1500 and 2500ksh depending on my mood / horniness and girl's attractiveness and menu offerings.

This may be on the high end of what others pay but for me it's quality not quantity, while also doing a bit of market development in places like Florida so girls pass the word next time I'm around.

Happy hobbying-

Guy.


My apologies. I used the wrong figure. Actually I was pinpointed on the 5000ksh that some ladies request as a starting amount. When I was in Mombasa, this supposed "student" I met in Casaurina (yeah we all know that the only students that hang out at Casaurina are pH. D hoes) asked me for 4500ksh. I said no way and only passed her 1200ksh plus 200ksh for taxi (total of 16USD). I even let her enjoy the breakfast the guesthouse provided for one person. I left out and went back to my hotel. But if more punters agree to 5000ksh (60USD) just because they are 1) drunk. 2) think the lady is world class fine, or 3) sympathetic to her hardships and want to be the knight in shining armor at least for the night or week, it does have a cascading effect since these women DO TALK with each other and share pertinent INTEL. Like how much they are able to score from the muzungos. So when a good percentage of punters, be they Italian, Asian, Europeans, American, or South African start pricing up the market, the affect will be felt by all who come afterward. The trend can be seen in many places that used to be excellent mongering locations but not so much now. Like Brazil, Bali, etc.

Additionally, I am currently in AC right now and I have seen altruistic, well-off "mongers" splashing cash on the bar girls. One of them happened to be a black guy and I guess he was trying to personally change the perception that black men are stingy tippers. So he took to tossing 50php bills toward a throng of bar girls in One Eyed Winch. Almost caused a major commotion and stampede as girls dashed from the other side of the bar and from the stage down to grab what they could. Well, I was doing nothing of the sort. I operate more like the smart Koreans (not the cash flashers but the cheap charlie koreans who get to the club as soon as the shift changes, buys themselves just a drink, make their pick of the gems available, bar fine her and then go off to have their fun). I am sympathetic to people's hardships but realize that just one person CANNOT solve or improve their plight (hell, multimillionaire lottery winners have gone bankrupt trying to do just that!). I believe the school of thought of making people use their ingenuity and work ethic to earn their keep is a better option than charity. So that thought is why I adhere to respecting the local economy. I have no beef about where a person chooses to lay their head for the night and I like others do have standards. I just am offended when a hotel in Africa tries to charge an exorbitant rate for what I consider basic accommodations which is a clean room, clean running hot water, an AC, and TV. I have been able to obtain that plus free broadband internet access here in AC for only 37USD per night. You can't find that at that price in Africa because of all of the corruption (informal taxation). So when in Africa, I settle for slightly less than ideal accommodations (I. E. No internet access) and pay around 50USD.

Lastly, I was not attacking you. What you do is your business. And again I own up to my mistake so let's go forth and monger in peace!

Luvemblack
04-29-11, 13:09
Just to add my 2cents.

I look at cost in this way, much like when you are buying a car there is a range of prices across models. I wouldn't pay Mercedes prices for a Ford. Nor would I expect to get a Mercedes at a the price of a Ford.

So is paying 5K shillings worth it? Well it depends, are you buying the Mercedes or the Ford?

I live in Nairobi and have paid 5k many times. But it was for very special service with very special ladies. I have also paid the normal 1. 5-2k but it was for a very different type of woman. I didn't expect the same type of service I got when I paid 5k.

Also price depends on where you pick the lady and where you are staying at. If you are staying at the Serena, its not very reasonable to expect to pay 2k for the lady. The rooms cost more than $300 a night. The ladies do have costs. To work the Serena it costs the lady about 3k. She has to tip to get in, tip to be allowed to stay in the bar, and tip to get upstairs.

Different situation if you are picking a girl at Florida and taking her back to a $50 a night hotel.

So like most things in life the answer to what should I pay? Is it depends.

Priamos
04-30-11, 05:37
7. If you like anal sex, be aware that local girls in general do not even know what is it. Let's stay liking it or even trying it. After much sweet talking, I eventually convinced Lena to get a DATY with a bit of a finger in her butt (a technique that delivers incredible female orgasms when mastered) , but that was already unheard of, and felt strange to her.Arthur, you're not the first person to say that. I have to say, though, that it contradicts my experience. I was in Nairobi on business two weeks ago and spent a few days "looking around" before returning home. OK, hardened pros in places such as Madhouse have a very clear idea of what services they offer (and for how much) , but in four days of mongering I had anal sex on two occasions. Without even asking for it.

The first such "date" consisted of a low-end provider whom I picked up on the pavement opposite the Trattoria restaurant. Around 19 yo and very badly dressed she might have been a slum resident, and she probably earns most of her money from STs in cars, etc. I took her to Chester House for the night. The thrill of having a BF with money (and no doubt the hope of return jobs and / or tips) made her go out on a limp. The second time we had sex she blurted out "you want to f*k me in the ass?" I was surprised and told her that I'd understood most girls don't do this and I don't want to hurt her. She insisted "YOU should have fun, honey. Come inside. Let's try." OK, we tried and after a bit of ceremonial moaning from her side we enjoyed a lengthy buttfuck. I didn't disappoint her hopes of a tip. The next morning I took her to a fancy shop and bought her a new blouse of her choice to replace the old rag she was wearing. I also made a lunch appointment with her for the next day. Which ultimately she didn't keep. Perhaps her pimp had other ideas.

The second such "date" was made in a small music bar in Koinange Street named Dolce Vita shortly before midnight. I ran into a slightly tubby girl in her mid-20s, who seemed uninterested at first (a drunken MILF at the bar was busy trying to chat me up) , but joined me easily at my table when I sat down. She agreed to come to my room, but she made it clear that it could be only ST because she had to go home. Once we were in bed she immediately curled up like a U-shape and indicated that I was welcome in her back entrance. Of course, she too had to utter the obligatory moans ("it is paaaainful") but she seemed totally comfortable with what she was doing. Ultimately I think this was a commercial ruse to earn some tips on top of the normal ST fee, to compensate for the fact that she couldn't stay LT. I did in fact tip her. With her service mindedness it would have seemed unfair not to.

So, plenty of anal sex around for those who like it, it would seem? I didn't even have to ask. Or, perhaps it was just beginner's luck?

Expat Kenya
04-30-11, 15:14
I look at costs in this way, much like you are buying a candy bar. There's a lot of candy out here in Kenya ranging in different grams, taste and, not tasty but it only looks tasty. Because there is a lot of candy around, everybody seems to sell candy, it must have a big profit to sell candy and there must be a lot of competition to sell candy.

So I pay market price for candy, I can decide for how much I wand to buy candy for, now I only have to find the seller who sells candies at my price and taste.

Off course when the candy is a surprise egg, like a chocolate butt hole which I did not expect, I can always add my appreciation on top of what I've paid to the seller (pimp).

When it comes to buying cars, I'd compare a car with a wife, not with candy.

She'll be there for many years, if second hand you have to know her inside out, her character, manual, costs to maintain her and her fuel consumption.

So, keep on overrating malayas of which you won't know in a few days, all the things you need to know when buying a car, or marrying a wife.

Cheers


Just to add my 2cents.

I look at cost in this way, much like when you are buying a car there is a range of prices across models. I wouldn't pay Mercedes prices for a Ford. Nor would I expect to get a Mercedes at a the price of a Ford.

So is paying 5K shillings worth it? Well it depends, are you buying the Mercedes or the Ford?

I live in Nairobi and have paid 5k many times. But it was for very special service with very special ladies. I have also paid the normal 1. 5-2k but it was for a very different type of woman. I didn't expect the same type of service I got when I paid 5k.

Also price depends on where you pick the lady and where you are staying at. If you are staying at the Serena, its not very reasonable to expect to pay 2k for the lady. The rooms cost more than $300 a night. The ladies do have costs. To work the Serena it costs the lady about 3k. She has to tip to get in, tip to be allowed to stay in the bar, and tip to get upstairs.

Different situation if you are picking a girl at Florida and taking her back to a $50 a night hotel.

So like most things in life the answer to what should I pay? Is it depends.

Hesekiels
04-30-11, 19:27
... Also price depends on where you pick the lady and where you are staying at ...That's for sure! If you stay in a Five Star Hotel instead of a budget place, the very same girl would actually quote a higher price. It's understandable, isn't it!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

BKKguy
05-01-11, 05:45
Getting tired of the bar / club scene I decided to shop from the sites for an outcall to my hotel. Liked girls on kenyaraha and looked through classified adds for girls with numbers in profile (so you need not join).

Shortlisted a few and started texting them until I recv'd responses. Of the responses this night, Sophy was the most attractive and well-priced. SURPRISE: the hot girl in add was not girl that showed at hotel.

Instead, I was treated to an attractive girl around 23, very tight frame, thin waste, ample ass, a cups. I won't disclose her real name but she divulged that many on kenyaraha don't use real pix (caveat emptor). Because I remained pleased with what stood in front of me, I didn't turn her away.

Overall, she was good looking but a bad lay. She states GFE but really didn't know what it meant. No kissing, no BBBJ, no DATY, no A service, no inside vaginal massage. And then she complained I was too big so I couldn't even deep stroke. Had to finish with HJ. Now informed of what GFE really means, she told me she's removing it from her profile. I told her others could get upset at her false advertising, but frankly, she has enough asian and scandanavian clients who don't care about the Bait / Switch.

Won't call her back despite her pleasant disposition but others; YMMV

BKKguy
05-01-11, 06:01
Getting tired of the bar / club scene I decided to shop from the sites for an outcall to my hotel. Liked girls on hookup. Co. Ke and looked through classified adds for girls with numbers in profile (so you need not join).

Found Kate (aka Lara / Lisa) after my last exp with another site, when I first texted her I asked point blank if she was girl in picture, and reiterated that if she was not, I would turn her away immediately at her own cabfair expense. She insisted she was girl in pic, so we proceeded to negotiate. Expansive menu (everything but A-service) good 2 hour price. Unfortunately there was a hitch, she's a massage parlor girl (out of Westlands) and when you request outcalls she still has to revert a 'house fee'. This actually makes her more expensive then independents.

So I tried to negotiate a reduced house fee with her handler (marginally successful. 25% lower) and also added an incentive structure for Kate. Would pay her nominal 2hour fee and tip based on her performance / ability to drive me nuts. Let me say this p4p / p4p (pay for pussy / pay for performance) incentive I may have to try again!

Kate arrived, was as pictured, but seems it was a few years old. She's still hot, but older than her picture. We mutually showered, but unlike Asian AMPs no BBBJ. Just mutual scrubbing. Off to bedroom.

Massagge was good, hit all the right spots. Then flip to full service. Knowing she could make more for doing me right. She did (msog) and was tipped.

Total paid 7000 including her housefee and tip. You get what you pay for and this 7000 was worth it for 2hours of hot sex.

Would see her again but not sure if I outcall her or just see her in her massage place. I'll probably save a few bobs in the process.

Hesekiels
05-01-11, 16:44
. Total paid 7000 including her housefee and tip. You get what you pay for and this 7000 was worth it for 2hours of hot sex...

Wow, and you really think it was worth it? I am just wondering since 7000 KHS is truly a damn high price and according to my experience you get easily a cuty for half the amount - for LT, of course!

Cheers.

Hesekiels

BKKguy
05-01-11, 18:09
Wow, and you really think it was worth it? I am just wondering since 7000 KHS is truly a damn high price and according to my experience you get easily a cuty for half the amount. For LT, of course!

Cheers.

HesekielsHes-

Your arguments are true, you can have a two hour session for 1/2 the price. But I've found that you get what you pay for.

Many girls in NBO are not full time providers. And the full time providers typically can be found in CBD, but they bore me, and / or are into rushing the session, or only one shot wonders.

This time I tried something diff (by choosing an outcall). Won't do this all the time, but remember, I had to pay the housefee to release her from her mp. Not intending to screw up market prices. But my MSOGs and her attention to service made it worthwhile for me. She actually LIKES to screw. YMMV.

BKKguy
05-01-11, 18:14
My last night in NBO and I wanted to see if my luck would continue. Heard of Angelia and reviewed her sight: http://www.angelia55.webs.com. Only had euros left and paid her 50euros for 60mins.

Her pics are real, her attitude professional and attentive. She wants you to feel good and pass the word around. She's looking for regulars.

Like my last post, she's more exp then the avg provider, but that's because she's an above avg provider.

She came to my place, and I REALLY enjoyed who arrived at the door. Finally one that looks better than pictured.

My new ATF in NBO.

Angelia. 0714404505.

Note: get her early in the day, she's busy and more fresh in the early afternoon.

Lister Dave
05-02-11, 04:14
Hi bros,

Anyone got a contact for Chester House? Their site is down. I tried an email, but it bounced back. Are they still operating?

Bide59
05-02-11, 09:21
So, plenty of anal sex around for those who like it, it would seem? I didn't even have to ask. Or, perhaps it was just beginner's luck?I have to concur with this statement. You will not get anal with most of the GF girls you find through Facebook or at a normal bar / shopping mall. They are simply not used to it or have had bad experience. However, picking up a girl from Florida or a pro from the side walk towards YaYa center, I have been lucky many times. Also in Mombasa, anal sex is not unheard of (from a pro that is). Initially, they are mostly reluctant of doing so, but with a bit of fingering, licking and convincing you mostly will be lucky. The last anal I had was with a big mama outside Yaya center, with lactating titts the size of my head. She was open enough in her ass so no fingering / preparing was needed, and the hole was clean. She actually did seem to enjoy it, and I liked it more since it was tighter than her pussy.

So, just insist and tease her butthole with your pecker and you will shortly see if its going to be a go or no.

Hesekiels
05-02-11, 20:44
Hes-

Your arguments are true, you can have a two hour session for 1/2 the price. But I've found that you get what you pay for. The only thing that really matters is that you had a good time! Great that you had enjoyed these moments!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

LustyHombre
05-03-11, 14:16
Just to add my 2cents.

I look at cost in this way, much like when you are buying a car there is a range of prices across models. I wouldn't pay Mercedes prices for a Ford. Nor would I expect to get a Mercedes at a the price of a Ford.

So is paying 5K shillings worth it? Well it depends, are you buying the Mercedes or the Ford?

I live in Nairobi and have paid 5k many times. But it was for very special service with very special ladies. I have also paid the normal 1. 5-2k but it was for a very different type of woman. I didn't expect the same type of service I got when I paid 5k.

Also price depends on where you pick the lady and where you are staying at. If you are staying at the Serena, its not very reasonable to expect to pay 2k for the lady. The rooms cost more than $300 a night. The ladies do have costs. To work the Serena it costs the lady about 3k. She has to tip to get in, tip to be allowed to stay in the bar, and tip to get upstairs.

Different situation if you are picking a girl at Florida and taking her back to a $50 a night hotel.

So like most things in life the answer to what should I pay? Is it depends.Luvemblack, I totally concur!

After all, it's YOUR OWN enjoyment we are talking about, and in case you don't enjoy the encounter, a bargain basement price won't EVER be adequate compensation for the lack of enjoyment.

I know the "KES 1, 500 max " Price Police will never agree + hope that all situations in life would be this clear cut and simple!

Zamziv
05-03-11, 14:52
Was chatting with this gal for some weeks.

We met for coffe and she was happy to visit my room.

Sweet pussy

Westcoast 1951
05-04-11, 16:44
Was chatting with this gal for some weeks.

We met for coffe and she was happy to visit my room.

Sweet pussyNice one, let us see more please. Is she available for us?

Member #4379
05-05-11, 09:15
This website is excellent for finding out where to find women and their cost. But what about girl friendly hassle free (I. E. They don't ask questions, they don't ask for the girl's I'd, and they allow 2 girls into your room) hotels in Nairobi?

Please send me a private message if you know of any hassle free girl friendly hotels under $50 a night in Nairobi.

Member #4379
05-05-11, 10:12
I'm planning a trip to Nairobi (I'm only 3 hours away by plane) and would be interested in organizing a 4 some or 5 some with another straight white male. (have a thing for Oreo cookies!) Maybe I'm dreaming but the idea would be to find 2 or 3 girls (preferably and authentically bi) that would be interested in a nice sex party for a max of maybe 4 or 5 hours during the day. Idea: We could book the girls in advance after picking them out from Madhouse. I suppose the greatest challenge will be to find a girl friendly hotel or we could split the cost of renting an apartment for just the day. We could spice it up by adding bonus shillings for those willing to try DP or for those who win a DT contest.

If anyone is interested in my freaky idea send me a private message.

Wdarryl
05-05-11, 13:18
Anyone in Nairobi now. Be cool to have someone to have a beer with while chasing hawties

Wdarryl
05-05-11, 18:24
Had good luck today. Met a gal on afro. Was up front while chatting online and she was agreeable. Came over to my place and I was pleasantly surprised as she was better looking in person than in her pics (around 5'6" and 110lbs. Youthful C-cup). Definitely not a florida pro but more of the hot coed you see at the coffee shop. After a bit of chatting we proceeded to have some passionate gf type lovemaking session. Was certainly a non-pro as she did not seem to want to give BJ and was slow to respond to oral. But warmed up and did enjoy herself. In 2 and a half hours we made love 3 times and I got a very good massage. Probably the second best girl I have had in Nairobi. Will be seeing her again. All around I would rate her an 8. If she gets into giving BJ's she will be a solid 9 and maybe more.

If anyone wants her afro or skype contact info send me a pm

Member #4148
05-06-11, 07:44
Had good luck today. Met a gal on afro. Was up front while chatting online and she was agreeable. Came over to my place and I was pleasantly surprised as she was better looking in person than in her pics (around 5'6" and 110lbs. Youthful C-cup). Definitely not a florida pro but more of the hot coed you see at the coffee shop. After a bit of chatting we proceeded to have some passionate gf type lovemaking session. Was certainly a non-pro as she did not seem to want to give BJ and was slow to respond to oral. But warmed up and did enjoy herself. In 2 and a half hours we made love 3 times and I got a very good massage. Probably the second best girl I have had in Nairobi. Will be seeing her again. All around I would rate her an 8. If she gets into giving BJ's she will be a solid 9 and maybe more.

If anyone wants her afro or skype contact info send me a pmThis is the beauty of Afro in Kenya. Yes, as Willyboy and others have pointed out, there are many pros on here. But yes also that there are many semi-pros (hell, I had one who lived about 10 miles outside of Nairobi in a corrugated tin shack with no toilet or running water) like this one which Wdarryl describes.

I miss Kenya.

Hesekiels
05-07-11, 12:28
This website is excellent for finding out where to find women and their cost. But what about girl friendly hassle free (I. E. They don't ask questions, they don't ask for the girl's I'd, and they allow 2 girls into your room) hotels in Nairobi?Why should they ask any questions if you bring two girls to your room? And to present their ID's at the reception is quite normal and for your own security! So, do not feel all too embarressed while registering your cuty and enjoy your time!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Ze Gato
05-07-11, 18:17
I'm planning a trip to Nairobi (I'm only 3 hours away by plane) and would be interested in organizing a 4 some or 5 some with another straight white male. (have a thing for Oreo cookies!) Maybe I'm dreaming but the idea would be to find 2 or 3 girls (preferably and authentically bi) that would be interested in a nice sex party for a max of maybe 4 or 5 hours during the day. Idea: We could book the girls in advance after picking them out from Madhouse. I suppose the greatest challenge will be to find a girl friendly hotel or we could split the cost of renting an apartment for just the day. We could spice it up by adding bonus shillings for those willing to try DP or for those who win a DT contest.

If anyone is interested in my freaky idea send me a private message. Appears like you are looking for a white man to fulfill your fantasy. You are traveling to the wrong country

Luvemblack
05-07-11, 21:13
I mostly agree and to each his own. One point of clarification though, I have the luxury of living in Kenya so I have lots of time to pick and choose. When I pay 5k, its someone who I know well. They are not "florida" girls and frankly you would never know they are working. Nairobi has a wide range of ladies, if it was chocolate it would be Godiva.


I look at costs in this way, much like you are buying a candy bar. There's a lot of candy out here in Kenya ranging in different grams, taste and, not tasty but it only looks tasty. Because there is a lot of candy around, everybody seems to sell candy, it must have a big profit to sell candy and there must be a lot of competition to sell candy.

So I pay market price for candy, I can decide for how much I wand to buy candy for, now I only have to find the seller who sells candies at my price and taste.

Off course when the candy is a surprise egg, like a chocolate butt hole which I did not expect, I can always add my appreciation on top of what I've paid to the seller (pimp).

When it comes to buying cars, I'd compare a car with a wife, not with candy.

She'll be there for many years, if second hand you have to know her inside out, her character, manual, costs to maintain her and her fuel consumption.

So, keep on overrating malayas of which you won't know in a few days, all the things you need to know when buying a car, or marrying a wife.

Cheers

Member #4379
05-08-11, 13:20
Appears like you are looking for a white man to fulfill your fantasy. You are traveling to the wrong countryAlready have 2 other white guys who travel to Kenya who are interested in my idea. Kenya IS the country for this since the beautiful black girls and attitude in Kenya is keen for this. Will post when it happens.

Member #4379
05-08-11, 13:25
Why should they ask any questions if you bring two girls to your room? And to present their I'd's at the reception is quite normal and for your own security! So, do not feel all too embarressed while registering your cuty and enjoy your time!

Cheers!

HesekielsYou are absolutely right, might rent an apt and take a chance

Hesekiels
05-08-11, 17:19
... might rent an apt and take a chanceSure, depending on the time you are going to spend in Kenya, it might be indeed an excellent option!

Have a great time!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Willyboy
05-12-11, 11:21
Getting tired of the bar / club scene I decided to shop from the sites for an outcall to my hotel. Liked girls on hookup. Co. Ke and looked through classified adds for girls with numbers in profile (so you need not join).

Found Kate (aka Lara / Lisa) after my last exp with another site, when I first texted her I asked point blank if she was girl in picture, and reiterated that if she was not, I would turn her away immediately at her own cabfair expense. She insisted she was girl in pic, so we proceeded to negotiate. Expansive menu (everything but A-service) good 2 hour price. Unfortunately there was a hitch, she's a massage parlor girl (out of Westlands) and when you request outcalls she still has to revert a 'house fee'. This actually makes her more expensive then independents.

So I tried to negotiate a reduced house fee with her handler (marginally successful. 25% lower) and also added an incentive structure for Kate. Would pay her nominal 2hour fee and tip based on her performance / ability to drive me nuts. Let me say this p4p / p4p (pay for pussy / pay for performance) incentive I may have to try again!

Kate arrived, was as pictured, but seems it was a few years old. She's still hot, but older than her picture. We mutually showered, but unlike Asian AMPs no BBBJ. Just mutual scrubbing. Off to bedroom.

Massagge was good, hit all the right spots. Then flip to full service. Knowing she could make more for doing me right. She did (msog) and was tipped.

Total paid 7000 including her housefee and tip. You get what you pay for and this 7000 was worth it for 2hours of hot sex.

Would see her again but not sure if I outcall her or just see her in her massage place. I'll probably save a few bobs in the process.Only idiots paying 7000ksh for 2h; I was 4 nights with differents girls in my room, end also with perfeckt service. When this beginners will laerning albout the prices from malayas in kenya?

Bondvan200
05-13-11, 08:03
Only idiots paying 7000ksh for 2h; I was 4 nights with differents girls in my room, end also with perfeckt service. When this beginners will laerning albout the prices from malayas in kenya?Willy do not treat african girls like door mats please try to br human, they are simply trying to survive and pay for there bills. Imagine it was your daughter being treated the way you doing. Why pay little to one girl if you can change the well being of one. Try sticking to one girl for one holiday and change to onother the next. Be human life is not all about money.

Willyboy
05-13-11, 20:06
Willy do not treat african girls like door mats please try to br human, they are simply trying to survive and pay for there bills. Imagine it was your daughter being treated the way you doing. Why pay little to one girl if you can change the well being of one. Try sticking to one girl for one holiday and change to onother the next. Be human life is not all about money.One girl during one full holiday. No thanks. Not for my. Bata schoe schop is waiting for you. To pay the rent of her house? ATM mzungu. Anater terribel misthake?

Willyboy
05-13-11, 20:44
Willy do not treat african girls like door mats please try to br human, they are simply trying to survive and pay for there bills. Imagine it was your daughter being treated the way you doing. Why pay little to one girl if you can change the well being of one. Try sticking to one girl for one holiday and change to onother the next. Be human life is not all about money.Insite Kenya going all thinks about money. Only sun going up for free in this country. By carfull in kenya. You will losed your last slip. To pay 2000ksh / night is more than your roomclaener (one weeck to work). Your roomclaener will choising very fast for malaya job! Very soon you making your bed by yourself. No roomclaeners!

Jbond
05-13-11, 21:15
Only idiots paying 7000ksh for 2h; I was 4 nights with differents girls in my room, end also with perfeckt service. When this beginners will laerning albout the prices from malayas in kenya?Agreed Willyboy but some guys never learn. You have guys who think they are too young and good looking to help the girls out after their 'rumpypumpy' and then there are the guys who the girls regard as more of a work in progress to put it kindly and ask them for more than the market rate. How many times do we discuss and explain the average Kenyan earns 5000-8000 KES per month. Finally, there will always be the production line of guys out there who want to spoil / ruin the girls / destinations for their fellow comrades in arms by giving them that for a couple of hours. Maybe we should take them on a tour of the places near River Road where Kenyan guys have their 'rumpypumpy' for 200KES. Sue from 'Nairobi nights ' fame and her friends go to these places when they can't find a mzungu who can be fooled into thinking they are good girls on Afro or others who want to just shower them with cash. Let's stop wasting our breath and go back to tales of bedroom gymnastics.

Expat Kenya
05-14-11, 00:51
Willy do not treat african girls like door mats please try to br human, they are simply trying to survive and pay for there bills. Imagine it was your daughter being treated the way you doing. Why pay little to one girl if you can change the well being of one. Try sticking to one girl for one holiday and change to onother the next. Be human life is not all about money.The difference IS the money. It is different when a student girl tries to make ends meet to pay school fees, temporary looks for mzungu money or when she quits school to do full time prostitution because it pays damn more than an office job after collage. Its a difference when Kenyan men, attracted by the money the girls are making, try to parasite on her fruits of services, while she thinks its real love. It is a difference when a girl gets old, no mzungu to claim her and bring her to a better situation, she has a child of the Mzungu but no serious Kenyan man will ever marry her and accept her status in life.

Imagine what, good or bad, your money might do today, and, tomorrow! Even orphanages, schools and other projects depending on charity have become big business."Western Union love" has become an industry on its own. Think of fellows who can read on the whole internet that Kenyan ladies are not faithful etc etc. All because of money.


I mostly agree and to each his own. One point of clarification though, I have the luxury of living in Kenya so I have lots of time to pick and choose.That makes a big difference, living in Kenya, having the time to get to know them and knowing the girls characters. I am always surprised Mzungus believe all kinds of stories, they think they have a clue about the girl but in real sense, these girls have become crooks.

Once I believed dramatic stories too, than one day a girl told me these stories are just merchandise, exchanged between girls to get money from mzungus. Than I woke up.

Tonkazan
05-15-11, 11:42
This forum will never cease to amaze me. Could it be actually true that a member of this forum paid a malaya 7000 shillings, then found it okay to announce it here? I can't stop laughing! Okay, maybe I have the advantage of being a black African, and a native Kenyan. That means that if I want, I can go to sabasaba and pay 200 ksh. But, since I don't want to lie on a bed with lice, I prefer to go to Casablanca and pay a little more. But I still don't want to believe that anyone would willingly pay 7k for one night. Why, do you own a diamond mine in Botswana? Even if you do, its simply silly! That is the reason the rest of us find the prices going up, because some monger has decided to play father Christmas. Why do we join this forum? Is it not to learn from each other? Then why would one who is a member here, who has read all the previous posts on the subject of prices, still go out and do something like that? If you want to spoil the market rates, at least have the decency not to announce it here!

Jbond
05-15-11, 13:10
This forum will never cease to amaze me. Could it be actually true that a member of this forum paid a malaya 7000 shillings, then found it okay to announce it here? I can't stop laughing! Okay, maybe I have the advantage of being a black African, and a native Kenyan. That means that if I want, I can go to sabasaba and pay 200 ksh. But, since I don't want to lie on a bed with lice, I prefer to go to Casablanca and pay a little more. But I still don't want to believe that anyone would willingly pay 7k for one night. Why, do you own a diamond mine in Botswana? Even if you do, its simply silly! That is the reason the rest of us find the prices going up, because some monger has decided to play father Christmas. Why do we join this forum? Is it not to learn from each other? Then why would one who is a member here, who has read all the previous posts on the subject of prices, still go out and do something like that? If you want to spoil the market rates, at least have the decency not to announce it here!Yes, spot on maybe Jackson could save us from having to repeat ourselves by banning anyone from posting if they admit to paying ridiculous prices to 'play hide the sausage' on the forum. I have seen many a destination for us fellow hunters on safari ruined and Kenya will go the same way eventually.

Bareback Jack
05-15-11, 21:18
Yes, spot on maybe Jackson could save us from having to repeat ourselves by banning anyone from posting if they admit to paying ridiculous prices to 'play hide the sausage' on the forum. I have seen many a destination for us fellow hunters on safari ruined and Kenya will go the same way eventually.Agreed, prices will meet international levels at some point, but more likely due to economic development over the next decades rather than due to a few hopeless guys ignoring market rates. Remember, everyone deserves a lucky day.

Member #4379
05-16-11, 09:10
The difference IS the money. It is different when a student girl tries to make ends meet to pay school fees, temporary looks for mzungu money or when she quits school to do full time prostitution because it pays damn more than an office job after collage. Its a difference when Kenyan men, attracted by the money the girls are making, try to parasite on her fruits of services, while she thinks its real love. It is a difference when a girl gets old, no mzungu to claim her and bring her to a better situation, she has a child of the Mzungu but no serious Kenyan man will ever marry her and accept her status in life.

Imagine what, good or bad, your money might do today, and, tomorrow! Even orphanages, schools and other projects depending on charity have become big business."Western Union love" has become an industry on its own. Think of fellows who can read on the whole internet that Kenyan ladies are not faithful etc etc. All because of money.

That makes a big difference, living in Kenya, having the time to get to know them and knowing the girls characters. I am always surprised Mzungus believe all kinds of stories, they think they have a clue about the girl but in real sense, these girls have become crooks.

Once I believed dramatic stories too, than one day a girl told me these stories are just merchandise, exchanged between girls to get money from mzungus. Than I woke up. This is a very good explanation of the situation for women in most African countries, even the 'middle' classes'. Even today in 2011 most men who graduate with a Bachelor's degree in the social sciences in Africa will end up with a very poor paying desk job in the gov't. It is hard to believe that even today these men will get their only good paying jobs from foreign aid (UN, ADB, World Bank, or they set up their own charity and get foreign aid). You can imagine that if the men are having trouble earning a living, just imagine the women. I 'married' a women from Ghana who was 'middle class' but still was very desperate to marry me to get out of Ghana since she was never going to get a good paying job in Ghana. I could have gone to the airport and not given her a dime but I gave her $4000 USA as part of the divorce. It paid for her entire 4 years tuition, too bad it was at a bad, unaccredited 'university' in Ghana. When I told her I could have just left she said "I would get you!". This shows just how desperate they are for the mzungu money. For those crazy enough, don't marry them unless you are a fascist! Or at least a Christian conservative fundamentalist.

BionicMan
05-16-11, 09:25
Agreed, prices will meet international levels at some point, but more likely due to economic development over the next decades rather than due to a few hopeless guys ignoring market rates. Remember, everyone deserves a lucky day.I agree.

I do not htink the local mongering prices are affected much by some (10? 20?) guys overpaying.

As you said, that will be the "lucky day" of the WG, but will not establish the official rate.

Take China, where everything is increasing now: salaries, prices and. WG rates. Certainly not because few dudes felt good by overpaying. But because of the general economy.

Of course the level of some WG will make them believe a "lucky day" will follow one after the other and might be tempted to demand the higher price paid by someone the day before.

If there are 10 guys each day in the local market overpaying, how are the chances that those girls will bump into them, when there are maybe 100 or 150 guys (or more) demanding their services.

But after 4. 5 or ten times they bang their head and go back home empty handed they will understand "lucky day" only comes few times and unexpectedly, so better not push too much their luck.

BKKguy
05-18-11, 01:16
Fellow hobbyists. I've been offline for a week or so and am now catching and apparently catching hell for my ksh 7000 payment to a massage girl in westlands for 2hr.

Wow, first of all, a note about me. I make a healthy £six figure salary and frankly, will spend my quid as I please. 2nd, I'm not looking for a 10min fast fuck with malaya Bush girls but a nice GFE from a courtesan who knows how to entertain gentlemen, is DDF and allows MSOGs. I've spent time in Florida and am always disappointed with the quality and endurance of the 'pros'. So, I tried something different in outcalling a massage girl.

That said, if you read the post well, you'll see that I only paid her ksh3k for her two hours. Because I called a massage place in Westlands, they informed me that in order to have her outcall, I had to pay them ksh4k. I actually WENT to the massage place on another occasion so they knew me. Did they hustle me? Perhaps.

I live in Bangkok, where it is standard practice to pay barfines to have girls check out to go with joes.

Did I pay too much, I'm seeing from you experts that I did. But did I have a good time? Sure I did. So, what do you care how much I paid? The point of the board is to discuss performance, and provide tips. I welcome any PMs from you 'pros' to help me in my future endeavors.

Meanwhile, back to the pussy.

Guy

Wenzman
05-18-11, 07:52
Fellow hobbyists. I've been offline for a week or so and am now catching and apparently catching hell for my ksh 7000 payment to a massage girl in westlands for 2hr.

Wow, first of all, a note about me. I make a healthy £six figure salary and frankly, will spend my quid as I please. 2nd, I'm not looking for a 10min fast fuck with malaya Bush girls but a nice GFE from a courtesan who knows how to entertain gentlemen, is DDF and allows MSOGs. I've spent time in Florida and am always disappointed with the quality and endurance of the 'pros'. So, I tried something different in outcalling a massage girl.

That said, if you read the post well, you'll see that I only paid her ksh3k for her two hours. Because I called a massage place in Westlands, they informed me that in order to have her outcall, I had to pay them ksh4k. I actually WENT to the massage place on another occasion so they knew me. Did they hustle me? Perhaps.

I live in Bangkok, where it is standard practice to pay barfines to have girls check out to go with joes.

Did I pay too much, I'm seeing from you experts that I did. But did I have a good time? Sure I did. So, what do you care how much I paid? The point of the board is to discuss performance, and provide tips. I welcome any PMs from you 'pros' to help me in my future endeavors.

Meanwhile, back to the pussy.

GuyIf you live in Bangkok there is no need to pay barfine for the bar girls, you're doing something wrong. Why do not collect telephone numbers and call them by phone after work. For someone who supposedly lives there, it is not necessary to pay in a bar barfine. There are other opportunities to meet many nice girls. So tell us no nonsense. I've worked a long time even in Bangkok, after a short time it was no longer necessary to go to the tourist areas and pay barfine.

But you know that by yourself, if you live there. So tell us no bullshit.

Wenzman

Member #4379
05-18-11, 11:28
Thanks to the Dicktators in Africa we have this problem of women not having the opportunity to benefit from a growing economy. Instead, these dictators in Africa crowd out and control most of the economy for their own benefit and a small elite class (military included) of mostly men. Those left out depend on foreign aid for a decent wage. Just look at Ghana and the difference after the dictator Rawlings stepped down (bless his soul, most dicks don; t do that, hence the problem) Although it is slow, the economy in Ghana is no longer in the control of a dicktator so more people are climbing out of poverty and getting a share of the wealth created. Not the case in most African countries where dicktators continue to rule. Don't send aid to African countries that are still run by dicktators, send it only to those countries that have had free, fair, competitive, and regular elections. Otherwise, you are keeping the dicks in power.


The difference IS the money. It is different when a student girl tries to make ends meet to pay school fees, temporary looks for mzungu money or when she quits school to do full time prostitution because it pays damn more than an office job after collage. Its a difference when Kenyan men, attracted by the money the girls are making, try to parasite on her fruits of services, while she thinks its real love. It is a difference when a girl gets old, no mzungu to claim her and bring her to a better situation, she has a child of the Mzungu but no serious Kenyan man will ever marry her and accept her status in life.

Imagine what, good or bad, your money might do today, and, tomorrow! Even orphanages, schools and other projects depending on charity have become big business."Western Union love" has become an industry on its own. Think of fellows who can read on the whole internet that Kenyan ladies are not faithful etc etc. All because of money.

That makes a big difference, living in Kenya, having the time to get to know them and knowing the girls characters. I am always surprised Mzungus believe all kinds of stories, they think they have a clue about the girl but in real sense, these girls have become crooks.

Once I believed dramatic stories too, than one day a girl told me these stories are just merchandise, exchanged between girls to get money from mzungus. Than I woke up.

Luvemblack
05-20-11, 13:15
On the stories front yes most are complete lies. When I was "new" I believed them. Now though I mostly don't. I have a select few girls I am friends with. A couple are working girls and the stories they tell are amazing. One has a boyfriend in Germany who send her money every month. She feeds him lies that amaze me. He pays for everything and only sees her twice a year. Another has a kid with a mzungu who send her $2. 5k every month. She drives a nicer car than mine.


The difference IS the money. It is different when a student girl tries to make ends meet to pay school fees, temporary looks for mzungu money or when she quits school to do full time prostitution because it pays damn more than an office job after collage. Its a difference when Kenyan men, attracted by the money the girls are making, try to parasite on her fruits of services, while she thinks its real love. It is a difference when a girl gets old, no mzungu to claim her and bring her to a better situation, she has a child of the Mzungu but no serious Kenyan man will ever marry her and accept her status in life.

Imagine what, good or bad, your money might do today, and, tomorrow! Even orphanages, schools and other projects depending on charity have become big business."Western Union love" has become an industry on its own. Think of fellows who can read on the whole internet that Kenyan ladies are not faithful etc etc. All because of money.

That makes a big difference, living in Kenya, having the time to get to know them and knowing the girls characters. I am always surprised Mzungus believe all kinds of stories, they think they have a clue about the girl but in real sense, these girls have become crooks.

Once I believed dramatic stories too, than one day a girl told me these stories are just merchandise, exchanged between girls to get money from mzungus. Than I woke up.

Willyboy
05-20-11, 19:24
On the stories front yes most are complete lies. When I was "new" I believed them. Now though I mostly don't. I have a select few girls I am friends with. A couple are working girls and the stories they tell are amazing. One has a boyfriend in Germany who send her money every month. She feeds him lies that amaze me. He pays for everything and only sees her twice a year. Another has a kid with a mzungu who send her $2. 5k every month. She drives a nicer car than mine.Mzungus not only paying cars for girls, no apartments. I now one girl, this girl having from 5 mzungus 10. 000ksh month. Mzungus open hairdress salons, Paying 40. 000ksh to dentist. Sitting many thimes in waiting rooms from dentist. To craesy to now all this. Why to work in hotels for less than 10. 000ksh / month end mzungus sending more than 5 monthsalerys. Only to go to western union the first of the month.

This malaya.

Willyboy
05-20-11, 20:39
On the stories front yes most are complete lies. When I was "new" I believed them. Now though I mostly don't. I have a select few girls I am friends with. A couple are working girls and the stories they tell are amazing. One has a boyfriend in Germany who send her money every month. She feeds him lies that amaze me. He pays for everything and only sees her twice a year. Another has a kid with a mzungu who send her $2. 5k every month. She drives a nicer car than mine.It's amazing how dumb some white men there who swallow the lies of those girls. They invest the money gained simply more white men to snare. I laughed my a break when I see everything. One visit they sit at the bar and the next visit with one another. They do not know where they should keep their heads. I laugh myself to death. . Love your fellow Co-sponsorship of hands if you're not in Kenya. It's really lost money. This is served in your own country.

Hesekiels
05-20-11, 23:54
On the stories front yes most are complete lies. When I was "new" I believed them. Now though I mostly don't. ...Same here! And when you have learned your first lessons, then mongering makes more fun and is much cheaper as well! Or am I wrong?

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Wenzman
05-21-11, 07:02
It's amazing how dumb some white men there who swallow the lies of those girls. They invest the money gained simply more white men to snare. I laughed my a break when I see everything. One visit they sit at the bar and the next visit with one another. They do not know where they should keep their heads. I laugh myself to death. . Love your fellow Co-sponsorship of hands if you're not in Kenya. It's really lost money. This is served in your own country.Willyboy my friend, you use google translate. Right?

Member #4379
05-23-11, 08:28
I got sort of suckered (I could have just gone to the airport and given her nothing) on a marriage. I really tried to work it out but the ignorance and literal belief in the Bible got me to say: You ain`t getting a passport from a Western country for this stuff. She was from Ghana lying about how `little`the $4, 000 USD was I gave her for the divorce. Thank Stanley it went to her father. He used it pay her entire 4 years university tuition (1200 USD per year) She lied it was not enough money. She also lied she would never get married again and got married easily within the year. Even after the divorce, she was still trying to hit on me for money. Private message me if you want her name just in case to avoid her. When I told her I could have gone to the airport and not give her anything she said ``I will get you! ` Sick. This was in Ghana but post is relevant here I hope.


On the stories front yes most are complete lies. When I was "new" I believed them. Now though I mostly don't. I have a select few girls I am friends with. A couple are working girls and the stories they tell are amazing. One has a boyfriend in Germany who send her money every month. She feeds him lies that amaze me. He pays for everything and only sees her twice a year. Another has a kid with a mzungu who send her $2. 5k every month. She drives a nicer car than mine.

Gern
05-26-11, 00:20
I am making my first trip to Nairobi in about two weeks and have a reservation at the Crowne Plaza downtown. I know it is close to the action, but I have no idea whether it is girl friendly. Of course, I first RTFF but there is not much mention of this place.

I got some great advice from RTFF about Chester House, but my company wants me in the Crowne Plaza.

What do you fellas think? Are there significant drawbacks to the Crowne Plaza? Should I go to the Chester House anyway? Are there other western hotels in the area that I can try to substitute for the Crowne Plaza without drawing too much attention to myself?

My number one priority is safety, second is girl friend friendly, third is comfort. What do you fellows suggest? Sorry to clog the forum on this issue, but since the Crowne Plaza is rarely mentioned, I would like your advice.

Thanks!

Ellington
05-26-11, 15:21
This is my first post on this board after years of lurking. I am pleased to say I'm booked for my first trip to Africa. I land in Nairobi about July 15 and stay for 3 weeks. I have researched this site exhaustively and wish to thank the many posters for their excellent information. I probably wouldn't attempt this trip without your kind help.

I live in Canada and have always wanted to go to Africa. I've been to DR numerous times and once to Thailand. I promise to post a trip report. I have some additional questions for you. Please feel free to pm me if you wish.

1. My plan is a week in Nairobi, then a week in Mombasa, then a week back in Nairobi before flying out for a total of 3 weeks. Is this a good plan? What is the train between Nairobi and Mombasa like? Is the train the best way to go? Should my Mombasa stay be longer. I guess I'm asking for an assessment of the relative merits of Nairobi vs Mombasa and where, assuming my primary focus is women, will I have the most fun?

2. I'm booked in Chester House in Nairobi in a one bedroom apartment; thanks to the great advice on this board for recommending this. Where should I stay in Mombasa?

3. Is it safe / secure to bring a lap top? I wouldn't want it stolen and lap tops seldom fit into hotel room safes, to the extent there is one.

4. How do you handle finances? Do you travel with lots of easily convertible currencies like dollars or euros? Do you exchange these in banks or are there easy to find cambios? Do you use travelers cheques? Are ATMs easily available?

5. What is the rough budget for a day in Kenya; excluding hotel – but including food, drinks, taxis, general sight-seeing and, most importantly, girls? In DR, for example, I would spend an average of $150 a day excluding hotel. This seems high for Kenya; is it?

Many thanks in advance. I promise a very detailed report.

Willyboy
05-26-11, 19:11
This is my first post on this board after years of lurking. I am pleased to say I'm booked for my first trip to Africa. I land in Nairobi about July 15 and stay for 3 weeks. I have researched this site exhaustively and wish to thank the many posters for their excellent information. I probably wouldn't attempt this trip without your kind help.

I live in Canada and have always wanted to go to Africa. I've been to DR numerous times and once to Thailand. I promise to post a trip report. I have some additional questions for you. Please feel free to pm me if you wish.

1. My plan is a week in Nairobi, then a week in Mombasa, then a week back in Nairobi before flying out for a total of 3 weeks. Is this a good plan? What is the train between Nairobi and Mombasa like? Is the train the best way to go? Should my Mombasa stay be longer. I guess I'm asking for an assessment of the relative merits of Nairobi vs Mombasa and where, assuming my primary focus is women, will I have the most fun?

2. I'm booked in Chester House in Nairobi in a one bedroom apartment; thanks to the great advice on this board for recommending this. Where should I stay in Mombasa?

3. Is it safe / secure to bring a lap top? I wouldn't want it stolen and lap tops seldom fit into hotel room safes, to the extent there is one.

4. How do you handle finances? Do you travel with lots of easily convertible currencies like dollars or euros? Do you exchange these in banks or are there easy to find cambios? Do you use travelers cheques? Are ATMs easily available?

5. What is the rough budget for a day in Kenya; excluding hotel – but including food, drinks, taxis, general sight-seeing and, most importantly, girls? In DR, for example, I would spend an average of $150 a day excluding hotel. This seems high for Kenya; is it?

Many thanks in advance. I promise a very detailed report. 150 dollar / day is not bad. If you now that workers from Kenya having 5 dollar / day (end paying rent from this money) 3000dollar or 20 days in Kenya (without accomodation) Good enough to distroy marktprices for adder mongers. Where is this company where you work? I will ask for one job!

Ellington
05-26-11, 19:57
150 dollar / day is not bad. If you now that workers from Kenya having 5 dollar / day (end paying rent from this money) 3000dollar or 20 days in Kenya (without accomodation) Good enough to distroy marktprices for adder mongers. Where is this company where you work? I will ask for one job!I would never destroy a market place. Such a thing is against my interest.

Zircon
05-27-11, 06:58
This is my first post on this board after years of lurking. I am pleased to say I'm booked for my first trip to Africa. I land in Nairobi about July 15 and stay for 3 weeks. I have researched this site exhaustively and wish to thank the many posters for their excellent information. I probably wouldn't attempt this trip without your kind help.

I live in Canada and have always wanted to go to Africa. I've been to DR numerous times and once to Thailand. I promise to post a trip report. I have some additional questions for you. Please feel free to pm me if you wish.

1. My plan is a week in Nairobi, then a week in Mombasa, then a week back in Nairobi before flying out for a total of 3 weeks. Is this a good plan? What is the train between Nairobi and Mombasa like? Is the train the best way to go? Should my Mombasa stay be longer. I guess I'm asking for an assessment of the relative merits of Nairobi vs Mombasa and where, assuming my primary focus is women, will I have the most fun?

2. I'm booked in Chester House in Nairobi in a one bedroom apartment; thanks to the great advice on this board for recommending this. Where should I stay in Mombasa?

3. Is it safe / secure to bring a lap top? I wouldn't want it stolen and lap tops seldom fit into hotel room safes, to the extent there is one.

4. How do you handle finances? Do you travel with lots of easily convertible currencies like dollars or euros? Do you exchange these in banks or are there easy to find cambios? Do you use travelers cheques? Are ATMs easily available?

5. What is the rough budget for a day in Kenya; excluding hotel – but including food, drinks, taxis, general sight-seeing and, most importantly, girls? In DR, for example, I would spend an average of $150 a day excluding hotel. This seems high for Kenya; is it?

Many thanks in advance. I promise a very detailed report. I also live in Canada. I was in Nairobi for 3 days 2 yrs ago, and enjoyed it. You could fly to Mombasa. I think prices are reasonable. I rented a car and drove across the country. Pretty hairy experience. Use your extra time to safari in Amboseli (backside of Kilimanjaro) , or better, go to Masai Mara (SW of Nairobi). Awesome trips. Hotel costs vary widely in Nairobi. I stayed in Hilton downtown, very pricey. Lots of girls. Meet them on Tagged. Have a great trip.

Johnympole
05-28-11, 05:45
This is my first post on this board after years of lurking. I am pleased to say I'm booked for my first trip to Africa. I land in Nairobi about July 15 and stay for 3 weeks. I have researched this site exhaustively and wish to thank the many posters for their excellent information. I probably wouldn't attempt this trip without your kind help.

I live in Canada and have always wanted to go to Africa. I've been to DR numerous times and once to Thailand. I promise to post a trip report. I have some additional questions for you. Please feel free to pm me if you wish.

1. My plan is a week in Nairobi, then a week in Mombasa, then a week back in Nairobi before flying out for a total of 3 weeks. Is this a good plan? What is the train between Nairobi and Mombasa like? Is the train the best way to go? Should my Mombasa stay be longer. I guess I'm asking for an assessment of the relative merits of Nairobi vs Mombasa and where, assuming my primary focus is women, will I have the most fun?

2. I'm booked in Chester House in Nairobi in a one bedroom apartment; thanks to the great advice on this board for recommending this. Where should I stay in Mombasa?

3. Is it safe / secure to bring a lap top? I wouldn't want it stolen and lap tops seldom fit into hotel room safes, to the extent there is one.

4. How do you handle finances? Do you travel with lots of easily convertible currencies like dollars or euros? Do you exchange these in banks or are there easy to find cambios? Do you use travelers cheques? Are ATMs easily available?

5. What is the rough budget for a day in Kenya; excluding hotel – but including food, drinks, taxis, general sight-seeing and, most importantly, girls? In DR, for example, I would spend an average of $150 a day excluding hotel. This seems high for Kenya; is it?

Many thanks in advance. I promise a very detailed report. I'm Kenyan, born and' bred. Yours sounds like a good plan. Starting with Nairobi, mongering abit and' heading for the coast. After your week in Mombasa you'll be in a better position to see if you'll come back to Nairobi or extend your stay.

$150 a day, you are sure to have yourself some fun. Currency is easy to convert and' readily available. Banks and' bureaus. You'd be wise to avoid black market money changers. Banks do take Traveller cheques too. At a cost ofcourse.

Transport in Kenya is a tourist attraction in itself. Cheap and' memorable. And' grounds for mongering. Taxis all over.

Don't fret too much about your laptop. If it can't fit in your hotel room safe then have the reception take care of it for you.

Karibu Kenya

Expat Kenya
05-28-11, 09:43
$150 a day, you are sure to have yourself some fun. Currency is easy to convert and' readily available. Banks and' bureaus. You'd be wise to avoid black market money changers. Banks do take Traveller cheques too. At a cost ofcourse.$150 can cater for hotel, food, local transport and GF, excluding flight, safari other extras. Traveler cheques can not be changed, maybe a single bank in Nairobi and 30 % commission. Take some cash to exchange and don't depend last minute on ATMs. There is only one ATM working at the moment, at Nakumatt and Mtwapa ATMs are down, the one at Barclays in Bamburi is the only ATM functioning on north coast at the moment.

Ellington
05-28-11, 18:20
$150 can cater for hotel, food, local transport and GF, excluding flight, safari other extras. Traveler cheques can not be changed, maybe a single bank in Nairobi and 30 % commission. Take some cash to exchange and don't depend last minute on ATMs. There is only one ATM working at the moment, at Nakumatt and Mtwapa ATMs are down, the one at Barclays in Bamburi is the only ATM functioning on north coast at the moment.So you are recommending that I bring cash only? At 21 days@$150 (not counting hotels and safaris) that's more than $3000 in cash. That doesn't sound very secure. Are you sure cash only is what I need to plan on?

Jiggydus
05-28-11, 19:11
so you are recommending that i bring cash only? at 21 days@$150 (not counting hotels and safaris) that's more than $3000 in cash. that doesn't sound very secure. are you sure cash only is what i need to plan on?last time i spent about 45 days mostly in kenya with about 10 of those days up in uganda. for that trip, i took $9k usd in cash with me, mostly benjamins (100 dollar bills) , but also a good number of grants (50 dollar bills). i placed this in my concealable money pouch that i carried in a variety of places (i. e. in appropriate place on my person and in my backpack in a nicely hidden place). during that trip, i never used a safe at all and none of my cash went missing. i never let anyone know from where my money was coming from and i varied (according to my pre-planned routine. that way i couldn't forget where i placed it) where i stashed my money bag. anytime i went out, i only carried the amount of cash i needed for fun. nothing more. i prefer to not use atms due to the fraud one can encounter nowadays. and i definitely do not go through the hassle of getting travelers cheques. i think the last time i did that was around 2001. and i regretted it since i discovered i didn't even need them. but i always carry a credit card i can use in a pinch to obtain a cash advance, but so far in all of my international travels, i have never had to use it for that purpose. so my recommendation would be to get one of those money pouches you can either carry on your person and conceal around your neck, waist, or legs) or a money belt (that is if you are a belt wearing person). just remember that if you conceal your money on your person and you are flying to your destination and happen to have to go through one of those backrep001ter machines, you will have to quickly and discreetly stash it into your carryon (i never, ever place my money clip, wallet, or any monetary instruments in those bins wide open for all to see. and possibly steal) and then after clearing security, go into a bathroom stall to put it where you want it for your arrival to that country or else you will get patted down by the security folks. when i fly through europe, i just stash it in my carryon, and then just prior to landing at my final destination, i will hide it on my person.

Expat Kenya
05-28-11, 19:15
So you are recommending that I bring cash only? At 21 days@$150 (not counting hotels and safaris) that's more than $3000 in cash. That doesn't sound very secure. Are you sure cash only is what I need to plan on?Not all cash, but for at least a few days in case ATMs aren't working and don't wait till the last day when you need to withdraw new cash. You can withdraw with credit card too when ATMs have network problems or at the counter of a bank. At the moment many ATMs are down on North Coast, its common here ATMs are empty or power failure. If you stay in the same hotel in Nairobbery, pay on arrival and take a safe if possible. Traveler cheques are very hard to change.

Cheers!

Willyboy
05-29-11, 10:50
last time i spent about 45 days mostly in kenya with about 10 of those days up in uganda. for that trip, i took $9k usd in cash with me, mostly benjamins (100 dollar bills) , but also a good number of grants (50 dollar bills). i placed this in my concealable money pouch that i carried in a variety of places (i. e. in appropriate place on my person and in my backpack in a nicely hidden place). during that trip, i never used a safe at all and none of my cash went missing. i never let anyone know from where my money was coming from and i varied (according to my pre-planned routine. that way i couldn't forget where i placed it) where i stashed my money bag. anytime i went out, i only carried the amount of cash i needed for fun. nothing more. i prefer to not use atms due to the fraud one can encounter nowadays. and i definitely do not go through the hassle of getting travelers cheques. i think the last time i did that was around 2001. and i regretted it since i discovered i didn't even need them. but i always carry a credit card i can use in a pinch to obtain a cash advance, but so far in all of my international travels, i have never had to use it for that purpose. so my recommendation would be to get one of those money pouches you can either carry on your person and conceal around your neck, waist, or legs) or a money belt (that is if you are a belt wearing person). just remember that if you conceal your money on your person and you are flying to your destination and happen to have to go through one of those backrep001ter machines, you will have to quickly and discreetly stash it into your carryon (i never, ever place my money clip, wallet, or any monetary instruments in those bins wide open for all to see. and possibly steal) and then after clearing security, go into a bathroom stall to put it where you want it for your arrival to that country or else you will get patted down by the security folks. when i fly through europe, i just stash it in my carryon, and then just prior to landing at my final destination, i will hide it on my person.it is very super idee to travel with kenya bus with 9000 dollar in pocket, no kredit cards end to safe in your hotel. this real top information.

Bulik
05-29-11, 20:26
150 dollar / day is not bad. If you now that workers from Kenya having 5 dollar / day (end paying rent from this money) 3000dollar or 20 days in Kenya (without accomodation) Good enough to distroy marktprices for adder mongers. Where is this company where you work? I will ask for one job!Willyboy it's nothing we can do about the prices of the hotels in Nairobi. Willyboy reccomend me a hotel thats decent and I will give it a try. I will be coming again in July!

Bulik Out

Willyboy
05-30-11, 11:15
Willyboy it's nothing we can do about the prices of the hotels in Nairobi. Willyboy reccomend me a hotel thats decent and I will give it a try. I will be coming again in July!

Bulik OutI spend always 20 euro / night. But this is not HILTON

LustyHombre
05-30-11, 16:20
This is my first post on this board after years of lurking. I am pleased to say I'm booked for my first trip to Africa. I land in Nairobi about July 15 and stay for 3 weeks. I have researched this site exhaustively and wish to thank the many posters for their excellent information. I probably wouldn't attempt this trip without your kind help.

I live in Canada and have always wanted to go to Africa. I've been to DR numerous times and once to Thailand. I promise to post a trip report. I have some additional questions for you. Please feel free to pm me if you wish.

1. My plan is a week in Nairobi, then a week in Mombasa, then a week back in Nairobi before flying out for a total of 3 weeks. Is this a good plan? What is the train between Nairobi and Mombasa like? Is the train the best way to go? Should my Mombasa stay be longer. I guess I'm asking for an assessment of the relative merits of Nairobi vs Mombasa and where, assuming my primary focus is women, will I have the most fun?

2. I'm booked in Chester House in Nairobi in a one bedroom apartment; thanks to the great advice on this board for recommending this. Where should I stay in Mombasa?

3. Is it safe / secure to bring a lap top? I wouldn't want it stolen and lap tops seldom fit into hotel room safes, to the extent there is one.

4. How do you handle finances? Do you travel with lots of easily convertible currencies like dollars or euros? Do you exchange these in banks or are there easy to find cambios? Do you use travelers cheques? Are ATMs easily available?

5. What is the rough budget for a day in Kenya; excluding hotel – but including food, drinks, taxis, general sight-seeing and, most importantly, girls? In DR, for example, I would spend an average of $150 a day excluding hotel. This seems high for Kenya; is it?

Many thanks in advance. I promise a very detailed report.$150 / day, eh? You'll do way better here than in the DR, especially in MBA, I can assure you, AND for way less coin.

Chester Hse is good to give you a feel for what's going on in NBO. I think 1 wk in NBO is more than enough + maybe 1 wk on safari (Masai Mara + Amboseli) before hitting the coast. MBA / Mtwapa / Diani Beach is where it's at in these here parts. Stay at the Kahama Hotel, that's central to all the North Coast action you are looking for. PM me for an insider's tip for the South Coast.

I'd not take too much cash, ATM's are plentiful here (Barclays ATM's are no fee for Scotiacard and you'll like the xchange rate when you get your statement once you're back home. Pretty close to the Interbank rate and wayy better than what you'd get at any FX bureau!).

LustyHombre
05-30-11, 17:52
It is very super idee to travel with Kenya bus with 9000 dollar in pocket, no kredit cards end to safe in your hotel. This real top information.No need to be that sarcastic, please!

I can only affirm that you are generally safe from pickpockets / muggers wherever you happen to be in Kenya as long as you observe common sense rules (be alert, stay sober, be non-offensive, stay away from all public commotions) , and of course it helps a great deal if you don't look like a sissy to begin with.

LustyHombre
05-30-11, 18:04
3. Is it safe / secure to bring a lap top? I wouldn't want it stolen and lap tops seldom fit into hotel room safes, to the extent there is one.Since most regular size laptops hardly fit into hotel safes (and carry too much of my bread-and-butter stuff anyhow to risk taking it along) I take a Dell Inspiron Mini with me on my travels these days.

Hesekiels
05-30-11, 19:09
... I took $9K USD in cash with me, mostly Benjamins (100 dollar bills) , but also a good number of Grants (50 dollar bills). ..Wow, but honestly spoken, I would not take such a risk!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Wdarryl
05-30-11, 19:15
Hey. I will be in nairobi from around the 12th to 14th of June and will have a nice apartment is anyone in or going to be in nairobi that might be interested in coming to a small sex party. I have one hot bi gal set up already so if you are a fit straight guy and are interested let me know. Am thinking 3-4 gals and me and another guy. Safe. Apartment will be in kilimani and should be a good time.

Jiggydus
05-31-11, 06:31
Not all cash, but for at least a few days in case ATMs aren't working and don't wait till the last day when you need to withdraw new cash. You can withdraw with credit card too when ATMs have network problems or at the counter of a bank. At the moment many ATMs are down on North Coast, its common here ATMs are empty or power failure. If you stay in the same hotel in Nairobbery, pay on arrival and take a safe if possible. Traveler cheques are very hard to change.

Cheers! When I was in Kenya, it seemed like power outages occurred on a weekly basis. Additionally, I am from the US and the banks here charge a motherload just for one to withdraw cash from non-bank ATMs (and since I only do business with a local credit union, I would get charged quite alot). I could transfer my banking business to an outfit that reimburses ATM fees charged by other institutions, but since I do so very rarely-it has been years, the inconvenience to my other operations is just not worth the hassle. So although I know I take certain risks by carrying that amount of cash with me on any of my trips, I am willing to do so and that is the reason I am overly alert and onguard the moment I step out of my house embarking on any of these trips. Suffice it to say, I never allow myself to become a drunk fool. Perhaps I would have more fun, but then again, perhaps I might have to cut my trip short because I was taken advantage of in such a drunken state. Not my idea of fun! I only shared what has worked for me. I am 100 percent truthful that I have experienced no problems folllowing my plan. But we are all grown men here, and you can choose to do what you think is best for you. As for those who think it stupid, I think it stupid and not a bright idea to "gift" $5 to the banks for the convenience of accessing my money. You Euros may not have that problem, but we do have that problem here in the US.

BTW I have been on work trips with colleagues who tried to just have enough cash on hand to last for a few days, relying on accessing cash from a Barclay's ATM. From their experiences, I saw that it wasn't always a sure thing, and when they were successful, it took much too long for my liking. So I will carry cash thank you very much.

Bide59
05-31-11, 11:36
Wow, I have by now traveled and mongered in many places but never really seen an issue with money. For two weeks mongering, I take 3-600 USD and 1-300 EUR in cash and two credit cards (or debit with cash advance function) from two different banks. You change the first 1-200 USD at the airport, get comfortable at the hotel and locate an ATM for your future cash withdrawals. When the need of cash arises, you take out money at the ATM, or, when all ATMs are down as it happens so often in Kenya and other cheap pussy countries, you change some of the USD / EUR at a bank or worst case at the hotel. I don't think I have traveled with traveler checks since my first mongering trip after High School back in the 90's.

9k USD? In one small little poach? In Kenya? Honestly man, how can you sleep? Much too risky of getting stolen and you being stranded.

Willyboy
05-31-11, 11:57
Wow, I have by now traveled and mongered in many places but never really seen an issue with money. For two weeks mongering, I take 3-600 USD and 1-300 EUR in cash and two credit cards (or debit with cash advance function) from two different banks. You change the first 1-200 USD at the airport, get comfortable at the hotel and locate an ATM for your future cash withdrawals. When the need of cash arises, you take out money at the ATM, or, when all ATMs are down as it happens so often in Kenya and other cheap pussy countries, you change some of the USD / EUR at a bank or worst case at the hotel. I don't think I have traveled with traveler checks since my first mongering trip after High School back in the 90's.

9k USD? In one small little poach? In Kenya? Honestly man, how can you sleep? Much too risky of getting stolen and you being stranded. I was 4 days with the same lady. Started all a little less careful with money. In the fifth night she stole 26000ksh. And my kriditcards. God was with me and the way-out protection, I would have her gestopt. Waar necessary funds have taken me to the airport to travel? It was my last night in Kenya. It happens more in last night. A personal advice for all hunters. SLEEP LAST NIGHT ONLY. Start your journey to well-equipped body. I thought it not happening to me!

Jbond
05-31-11, 17:04
Wow, I have by now traveled and mongered in many places but never really seen an issue with money. For two weeks mongering, I take 3-600 USD and 1-300 EUR in cash and two credit cards (or debit with cash advance function) from two different banks. You change the first 1-200 USD at the airport, get comfortable at the hotel and locate an ATM for your future cash withdrawals. When the need of cash arises, you take out money at the ATM, or, when all ATMs are down as it happens so often in Kenya and other cheap pussy countries, you change some of the USD / EUR at a bank or worst case at the hotel. I don't think I have traveled with traveler checks since my first mongering trip after High School back in the 90's.

9k USD? In one small little poach? In Kenya? Honestly man, how can you sleep? Much too risky of getting stolen and you being stranded. Your money plan good, one big but though Nairobi airport has normal banks and ATM machines. No need to change any money at the airport. Everyone knows this is the worse place to change money because of the extremely poor exchange rates. So back to those tales of hide the sausage!

Jbond
05-31-11, 17:18
Hey. I will be in nairobi from around the 12th to 14th of June and will have a nice apartment is anyone in or going to be in nairobi that might be interested in coming to a small sex party. I have one hot bi gal set up already so if you are a fit straight guy and are interested let me know. Am thinking 3-4 gals and me and another guy. Safe. Apartment will be in kilimani and should be a good time.The man has to be fit as well, sounds like an audition. These things sound good but me and my girl who incidentally is very hot and very, very bi usually end up back at ours for an olympiad of bedroom gymnastics with a hotty (s)!

Bareback Jack
05-31-11, 17:58
...when all ATMs are down as it happens so often in Kenya...I usually travel without any cash. The days when ATMs were down frequently are long gone. At least in Mombasa and Nairobi, but even in remote locations in Nyanza or anywhere along the Nairobi-Mombasa highway I've not had any problems with ATMs for a while.

Most of the UK Banks charge about 1. 50 GBP for a withdrawal plus somewhere between 2-3% commission factored into the exchange rate. I usually take out 35-40K in one go and that certainly goes a long way. The last withdrawal (a few days ago was charged at a rate of 137 per GBP which isn't bad.

Last time I entered Kenya even without the cash in hand to pay for the tourist visa. Luckily there is a Barclays ATM somewhere next to the Duty Free shops and after a bit of negotiation I got away with KSh 2, 500 for the Visa which was OK.

Willyboy
05-31-11, 19:03
I usually travel without any cash. The days when ATMs were down frequently are long gone. At least in Mombasa and Nairobi, but even in remote locations in Nyanza or anywhere along the Nairobi-Mombasa highway I've not had any problems with ATMs for a while.

Most of the UK Banks charge about 1. 50 GBP for a withdrawal plus somewhere between 2-3% commission factored into the exchange rate. I usually take out 35-40K in one go and that certainly goes a long way. The last withdrawal (a few days ago was charged at a rate of 137 per GBP which isn't bad.

Last time I entered Kenya even without the cash in hand to pay for the tourist visa. Luckily there is a Barclays ATM somewhere next to the Duty Free shops and after a bit of negotiation I got away with KSh 2, 500 for the Visa which was OK.Very strangs. Never ATM machine bifore costumers control. Never possibel to pass visa control without money. Maby I was blind?

To thake money from ATM. With my master card 300 ksh (3 euro) extra for 30. 000ksh. No extra things No commision

Willyboy
05-31-11, 19:08
If you coming to border control end you need visa. Plaese have with you 25 dollar or 20 euro. If not. You will not look lions or girls. Where persons look ATM machines bifor pasport / visa control. Only god now this!

Willyboy
05-31-11, 20:02
Last time I entered Kenya even without the cash in hand to pay for the tourist visa. Luckily there is a Barclays ATM somewhere next to the Duty Free shops and after a bit of negotiation I got away with KSh 2, 500 for the Visa which was OK.

It is not posibel to pay visa in this local amount. This local amount is not possibel for inport or export (kenya rouls) Ofcours. Evry monger spend not all in Kenya. Hi must have one reden to return (spending the rest of money).

If this writer look duty free shop bifore pasport control. Maby Hi was not wek-up after his fly.

Expat Kenya
05-31-11, 20:05
I usually travel without any cash. The days when ATMs were down frequently are long gone. At least in Mombasa and Nairobi, but even in remote locations in Nyanza or anywhere along the Nairobi-Mombasa highway I've not had any problems with ATMs for a while.Try to withdraw now. For the next three months Nakumatt ATMs are closed. Mtwapa is out of cash and electricity was off for 36 hours. Mtwapa is packed with tourists despite low season. Good advise, keep it up.


I was 4 days with the same lady. Started all a little less careful with money. In the fifth night she stole 26000ksh. And my kriditcards. God was with me and the way-out protection, I would have her gestopt. Waar necessary funds have taken me to the airport to travel? It was my last night in Kenya. It happens more in last night. A personal advice for all hunters. SLEEP LAST NIGHT ONLY. Start your journey to well-equipped body. I thought it not happening to me!How did the girl know it was your last night? Don't tell your real name, country, city, what you plan and where to go. Malayas don't, so why would you?

Bareback Jack
05-31-11, 21:23
...To thake money from ATM. With my master card 300 ksh (3 euro) extra for 30. 000ksh. No extra things No commision...Your 3 euro is still more than the 1. 50 GBP common in UK and the fact that your master card statement doesn't show a commission doesn't mean there is one. It is factored into the exchange rate! Compare the rate I was giving you and see if you had a better one around that time. What you get charged is pretty much the same across competitive markets.

Bareback Jack
05-31-11, 21:28
If you coming to border control end you need visa. Plaese have with you 25 dollar or 20 euro. If not. You will not look lions or girls. Where persons look ATM machines bifor pasport / visa control. Only god now this!It is located at the lower departure gates (1-8) , if I remember correctly not far from the diplomatic duty free. You just need to wander around a bit and get to know JKIA a little bit better. No need to ask for god either. The Kenyan immigration officers are lovely people and if you speak a little bit Swahili with them you will never have a problem. Even if you just have local currency. Just leave the European arrogance at home. That will go a long way.

Norweez
05-31-11, 21:48
Attention willyboy, I know you have alot of exp in Kenya, and ofcourse other senior members.

I am not interested in GFE at all, in fact I prefer to pick a girl up, have a BBBJ in my car or hotel, then drop her off and keep moving. Thats what I'm used to and thats how I like it, I don't like the girls hanging around all day or all night.

Do you know of any places like that in Nairobi or Mombasa where there are street walkers who you can pick up for a short date either in the car or nearby hotel? Is it easy to rent a car in kenya?

Thanks in advance

Bareback Jack
06-01-11, 00:34
...I am not interested in GFE at all, in fact I prefer to pick a girl up, have a BBBJ in my car or hotel, then drop her off and keep moving. Thats what I'm used to and thats how I like it, I don't like the girls hanging around all day or all night...I'll leave this one to Williboy as per your request.


...Is it easy to rent a car in kenya?...It is very easy. You have many choices. You can pay stupid money and rent from the usual suspects at airports or downtown locations (avis, carhire 3000, etc) or you can rent from local companies. There are plenty of them and the going rate is about 2, 500 Ksh per day for a small saloon (corolla etc) , which is about the equivalent of the price of a taxi ride from Moi Airport to Mtwapa. If you intend to go out and about a lot, renting will work out cheaper than taxis, but if you like drinking it might not be the best option.

Bareback Jack
06-01-11, 00:54
Try to withdraw now. For the next three months Nakumatt ATMs are closed. Mtwapa is out of cash and electricity was off for 36 hours. Mtwapa is packed with tourists despite low season. Good advise, keep it up.Electricity was actually off for less than 24 hours (at least where I live in Mtwapa) and over the last 12 months that was rather the exception than the rule. If you leave yourself in a position where you don't have enough cash to survive the next 2-3 days is just being silly.

You will always almost find a working ATM. Mtwapa being out of electricity doesn't mean that Bamburi is. Barclays in Bamburi has 2 ATMs and I have lately very rarely seen them down or out of cash. Even if it is there are plenty of ATMs in downtown Mombasa. I really don't see the problem.

I have local accounts in Kenya in parallel to my foreign accounts and it is quick, easy and cheap to wire money into these accounts and if all goes wrong it is just as easy to transfer money from outside Kenya into MPESA. There are plenty of options and yes, I will keep this advice up: There is absolutely no need to carry foreign currency cash around.

Bareback Jack
06-01-11, 01:03
...It is not posibel to pay visa in this local amount. This local amount is not possibel for inport or export (kenya rouls) Ofcours.....Oh Williboy. You never fail to amuse me. Non-residents are free to import / export local and foreign currency without restrictions. And yes, it is possible. You just haven't tried it. But I have, so I am right and you are wrong.


...If this writer look duty free shop bifore pasport control. Maby Hi was not wek-up after his fly...Maybe you should widen your horizon a little bit. Not all airports are like Mombasa. Nairobi is a different construction (circular) which allows you to pass the same duty free shops no matter whether you arrive or depart. There is an ATM at Gate 10 and that is the one I used to withdraw from as I had no other cent of cash in my pocket.

Willyboy
06-01-11, 07:16
Oh Williboy. You never fail to amuse me. Non-residents are free to import / export local and foreign currency without restrictions. And yes, it is possible. You just haven't tried it. But I have, so I am right and you are wrong.

Maybe you should widen your horizon a little bit. Not all airports are like Mombasa. Nairobi is a different construction (circular) which allows you to pass the same duty free shops no matter whether you arrive or depart. There is an ATM at Gate 10 and that is the one I used to withdraw from as I had no other cent of cash in my pocket. Why you need BORDINGCARD in airport to buy duty free items? If way out for you end you pass duty free. Not possibel to buy. End shop are CHOSED. Duty free is only for passagiers. Thaking flys.

Willyboy
06-01-11, 07:58
It cost my one h thime to find it

Currency.

The currency is the Kenyan Shilling (KSh) , divided into 100 cents. Imports of foreign currency is unlimited, but on arrival in Kenya indicate money you entered. The import and export of Kenyan shillings is prohibited under any circumstances. Traveler's checks (in USA dollars or pounds) can be exchanged at the bank. Often credit cards only accepted in major hotels.

Wenzman
06-01-11, 08:36
Some contributions in the discussion do not have much to do with reality.

Meanwhile, there are of course many ways to pay without cash, or receive money at ATM's all over the world. But it's natural, that I will not leave the house without any cash in my pocket. I would at least not go without a small amount of cash for emergencies on holiday. That's common sense.

It is also known that the fee for the Visa in Kenya is Euro or dollars is in cash.

If there is now an opportunity to get cash from an ATM before you pay the Visa in Mombasa or Nairobi.

What is the discussion.

If I know that I need the cash money for the Visa I bring it along with me. I would not ruin even the beginning of my vacation because I have to go looking around for an ATM. I too would not be at the mercy of the visa officer, if I can pay the visa in ksh or not.

Once again. I don't know anybody who leaves home without any cash the pocket.

For me personally. Since I had some time ago, massive problems with my credit cards, I've been bringing always a lot of cash with me. This is obviously a risk. Everyone has to decide this for themselves.

So, have the visa fee in cash. And at least a little cash for emergencies. How much. This must everybody know byself.

Greetings.

Wenzman

Bareback Jack
06-01-11, 08:38
Why you need BORDINGCARD in airport to buy duty free items? If way out for you end you pass duty free. Not possibel to buy. End shop are CHOSED. Duty free is only for passagiers. Thaking flys.C'mon man this is Kenya. Theoretically you need one. Practically you don't.

Wenzman
06-01-11, 08:52
@willyboy and@Jhack111.

What I forgot to say, my dick is the longest. You know what I mean. Just for fun.

Be kind to each other.

Greetings.

Wenzman

Bareback Jack
06-01-11, 09:02
...Some contributions in the discussion do not have much to do with reality...Everyone's reality is different. This is a forum where people exchange their opinions and experiences. These might not always be your cup of tea. No need to be so judgemental.


...I would at least not go without a small amount of cash for emergencies on holiday. That's common sense...Here we go again. Common sense easily classifies as the mosed overused and abused term.


For me personally. Since I had some time ago, massive problems with my credit cards, I've been bringing always a lot of cash with me. This is obviously a risk. Everyone has to decide this for themselves.Exactly. I'm not criticising the brother on this forum who says he carries $9K in cash. Its his personal decision, he has his reasons to do it and it works for him. Having massive amounts of cash and cards seems to work for you. And heaving 0 (foreign currency) cash and lots of cards works for me. Everyone's choices in life are different and I was simply stating the fact that it is not a necessity to travel with cash if you know your way around

Wenzman
06-01-11, 09:36
Everyone's reality is different. This is a forum where people exchange their opinions and experiences. These might not always be your cup of tea. No need to be so judgemental.

Here we go again. Common sense easily classifies as the mosed overused and abused term.

Exactly. I'm not criticising the brother on this forum who says he carries $9K in cash. Its his personal decision, he has his reasons to do it and it works for him. Having massive amounts of cash and cards seems to work for you. And heaving 0 (foreign currency) cash and lots of cards works for me. Everyone's choices in life are different and I was simply stating the fact that it is not a necessity to travel with cash if you know your way aroundRelax my friend, I have some medicine.

151755

Back to the girls.

Greetings.

Wenzman

Willyboy
06-01-11, 10:40
i found a website that imports and exports of kenya schilling is prohibited. in another site i found that payments kenya schillings on the plane as possible. so i think nothing further discussions to be suffering. limiting speeds back to basics: sex

Bareback Jack
06-01-11, 12:49
Relax my friend, I have some medicine.

151755

Back to the girls.

Greetings.

WenzmanNice pic my friend. Really appreciate the donation.

Norweez
06-01-11, 21:05
. I am not interested in GFE at all, in fact I prefer to pick a girl up, have a BBBJ in my car or hotel, then drop her off and keep moving. Thats what I'm used to and thats how I like it, I don't like the girls hanging around all day or all night.

I'll leave this one to Williboy as per your request.Jhack, thanks a mill for the info on the rent a cars, I hope the local companies are easy to find. Please provide your 2 cents on the street walker scene I asked about.

Bareback Jack
06-02-11, 10:05
Jhack, thanks a mill for the info on the rent a cars, I hope the local companies are easy to find. Please provide your 2 cents on the street walker scene I asked about.Norweez, I'll PM you some more info regarding car rental.

My 2 cents on your other question:

I take it when you are saying you are not interested in GFE you are in line with the main character in the movie The Italian who says to the girl: I'm coming here to receive pleasure, not to give pleasure! In other words you don't need her to fake for you or give you the illusion that she really likes it?

To be perfectly honest, its part of the package here to make you feel special.

However, the mindset of many of the girls here is very well described in this blog: http://www.nairobinights.co.cc/. This is written by a self confessed prostitute working in Nairobi. When you know what you are up against you can adapt in terms of your response / behaviour.

Mombasa / Mtwapa. Girls can be found anywhere, on the street in clubs, shopping centres, there is never a shortage, you will have plenty to choose from. What you do with them is completely up to you. Many of the girls will want to hang around but you just need to insist for them to go. Car jobs are not very common in Kenya. I would be careful with that. If you don't want to take them to your hotel, there are rooms available for short rent in some places where no questions are being asked, just a small fee to the security guard and you can do whatever you like.

Nairobi. There are plenty of street walkers around Koinange Street, this is hunting ground for locals and non-locals, so the quick job is quite a common thing. You will find what you are looking for where the locals are banging cause they are looking for the same set up as you, I. E. For what you have in mind stay away from the girls that hang around the tourist hotel bars. Too expensive, lousy service. Otherwise just pick and choose from the many clubs and watering holes.

Member #4379
06-03-11, 08:37
Jhack great pic where did you find her and how much did you pay?


Nice pic my friend. Really appreciate the donation.

Bareback Jack
06-03-11, 09:55
Jhack great pic where did you find her and how much did you pay?Credit for this one is to Wenzman, I simply forgot to remove the link to the pic when I hit the reply with quote button. Wenzman, can you help our friend out here?

Wenzman
06-03-11, 10:01
Credit for this one is to Wenzman, I simply forgot to remove the link to the pic when I hit the reply with quote button. Wenzman, can you help our friend out here?Tempo Disco, Friday night.

LT 2000 ksh. No children

Member #4379
06-06-11, 09:42
Got it seems that 2000 is the going rate

Wenzman
06-06-11, 11:06
Got it seems that 2000 is the going rateThere are so many fish in the pond, why pay more than necessary

Willyboy
06-06-11, 11:21
There are so many fish in the pond, why pay more than necessaryIf Hi go to supermarket. End Hi like the kassa girl. Hi always pay 20 procent TIP, Hi give this thinks name TAXIMONEY.

Ellington
06-06-11, 14:49
Many to thankss to Johnympole, Wenzman, Willyboy, Expat Kenya, Jhack111, Zircon, Bide59, Jiggydus, Hesekials, and Lusty Hombre and others for their great information in answer to my call for help.

My trip is now set for 3 wks beginning July 16; staying initially at Chester House then moving on to Kahama's in Mombasa. Thanks again. What a great board!

I promise a full report.

Wenzman
06-07-11, 10:01
If Hi go to supermarket. End Hi like the kassa girl. Hi always pay 20 procent TIP, Hi give this thinks name TAXIMONEY.Hey willyboy, as you know I pay the girls in the morning that they go, not that they stay and it's always MATATUMONEY.

We are always on a mission

Johnympole
06-07-11, 11:46
Many to thankss to Johnympole, Wenzman, Willyboy, Expat Kenya, Jhack111, Zircon, Bide59, Jiggydus, Hesekials, and Lusty Hombre and others for their great information in answer to my call for help.

My trip is now set for 3 wks beginning July 16; staying initially at Chester House then moving on to Kahama's in Mombasa. Thanks again. What a great board!

I promise a full report.Have lotsa fun. Wouldn't mind a few naughty pix. Same handle [Email address deleted by Admin]

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Zircon
06-08-11, 06:33
Many to thankss to Johnympole, Wenzman, Willyboy, Expat Kenya, Jhack111, Zircon, Bide59, Jiggydus, Hesekials, and Lusty Hombre and others for their great information in answer to my call for help.

My trip is now set for 3 wks beginning July 16; staying initially at Chester House then moving on to Kahama's in Mombasa. Thanks again. What a great board!

I promise a full report. Enjoy. There are many really pretty women in Kenya and they love to fuck.

Bareback Jack
06-08-11, 16:37
...My trip is now set for 3 wks beginning July 16; staying initially at Chester House then moving on to Kahama's in Mombasa...Nice choice mate. Bang on in the middle of the action. By the way, in between fucking sessions if you get tired of hotel food and need to eat don't miss to go to Ranalo Foods on Kimathi Street. Fantastic local place. Cheap, clean, good.

Bide59
06-09-11, 17:47
Good luck and happy mongering! An extended report with pictures is expected.


Many to thankss to Johnympole, Wenzman, Willyboy, Expat Kenya, Jhack111, Zircon, Bide59, Jiggydus, Hesekials, and Lusty Hombre and others for their great information in answer to my call for help.

My trip is now set for 3 wks beginning July 16; staying initially at Chester House then moving on to Kahama's in Mombasa. Thanks again. What a great board!

I promise a full report.

Member #4379
06-10-11, 13:09
Anyone know where to find some on-site brothels in Nairobi? Street location and landmarks nearby would be great. I'd like to try some on-site action and choose from a selection of girls if its possible.

Any details / information would be great.

LustyHombre
06-10-11, 16:14
Anyone know where to find some on-site brothels in Nairobi? Street location and landmarks nearby would be great. I'd like to try some on-site action and choose from a selection of girls if its possible.

Any details / information would be great.Try kenyanlistings. Com and keep in mind that in this business " what may be here today, may be gone tomorrow " applies.

I found some gems as well as some duds when I worked the site during my last NBO trip (8 wks ago) and guess what : some of the gems are no longer advertising as of now (maybe they have lots of activity now without continuing to pay for the ad?) but most of the duds I walked out on are still there.

SenzaZucchero
06-11-11, 09:22
Colleagues, I'll be in Nairobi soon for 1 week of business, and in this week my idea was to submitt a registration to a social network and place my location in Nairoby.

I received a lot of contact directly from the kenyan woman, from 22 to 35 YO.

I was surprise of that but probably they like withe man.

Someone of you have some experience in this situation?

Do you think that I can accept some invitation from this girls? . Or can be dangerous?

I will be in Ole-Sereni Hotel, is that guest friendly? Or I can find some girl directly at the hotel?

Thanks to all

Bareback Jack
06-12-11, 09:55
...Someone of you have some experience in this situation?...Do you think that I can accept some invitation from this girls? . Or can be dangerous?...The question I'd have is why do you want to go down this route? There are so many girls and 1 week is more than enough time to just get there and find exactly what you want. However, to answer your question: I have several freebie contacts like that on the big social network. I don't take contacts over the Internet lightly. I always take time to assess someone's agenda and never give out information that will allow someone to track me down. So from my experience it's a possibility but as always be vigilant.


...I will be in Ole-Sereni Hotel, is that guest friendly? Or I can find some girl directly at the hotel?...I haven't been to Ole Sereni, but as with most hotels registration of your guest is pretty much a standard requirement. As for girls in the bars of up market hotels my advice would be to forget about those unless you are happy to overpay. Pick your chicks outside. You will have a much wider choice.

Cheers J

SenzaZucchero
06-12-11, 10:34
. Pick your chicks outside. You will have a much wider choice.

Cheers JThanks alot Jhack, I will follow your suggestion. Probably is better to be like "anonymous", but what about outside place? I'm alone, and my firs time in Kenia, so I want to avoid any critical situation for a funny night.

Where do you think is possible to be in the night, I. E. For a dinner and more? I mean not a real mongering place, but normal place where the "final result" is quite shure.

Thansk Again

Norweez
06-13-11, 15:34
If you don't want to take them to your hotel, there are rooms available for short rent in some places where no questions are being asked, just a small fee to the security guard and you can do whatever you like.Jhack, thanks for the info and and the blog site. Do you have any info as to where I can find the short rent rooms and how much they cost? Would there be girls hanging around such sites for an all in one stop?

Bareback Jack
06-13-11, 20:27
Jhack, thanks for the info and and the blog site. Do you have any info as to where I can find the short rent rooms and how much they cost? Would there be girls hanging around such sites for an all in one stop?In Nairobi I'm afraid I don't know. But in Mombasa in the past I have been fucking quite a few chicks in the rooms next to Tembo. Very quiet daytime, you can make her scream the house down if you want and don't even need to close the door. Only the security guard roaming around outside LOL. Think I paid 300/= to the guard. Condoms are plenty on the bedside table but not the super thin ones.

Bareback Jack
06-13-11, 20:33
...I'm alone, and my firs time in Kenia, so I want to avoid any critical situation for a funny night...No worries, you'll be safe if you don't do anything stupid. In Nairobi use cabs during the night if you are not experienced. If you don't want to be on your own post in the travel announcements thread and you might just find someone travelling at the same time willing to team up.


Where do you think is possible to be in the night, I. E. For a dinner and more? I mean not a real mongering place, but normal place where the "final result" is quite shureThere is no one who isn't going to score in Kenya. No worries. The final result is sure. Just go to the usual clubs and watering holes, there are so many mentioned in this forum. Just take your time and READ!

Don't mix dinner with pussy!

Nguvu2
06-15-11, 00:54
Jhack, thanks for the info and and the blog site. Do you have any info as to where I can find the short rent rooms and how much they cost? Would there be girls hanging around such sites for an all in one stop?In Nairobi try Terminal or Parkside. You may also try Sagret. These all go for about 2000. No problem with guests though they may charge 500 to 600 extra. Includes breakfast if she stays that long.

Also, down from Sagret is Kenya Comfort Suites which is very nice. Can do some of your own cooking and prices are 3000 single with 1000 extra for guest. No hassles, but will need to register. These two are just outside of CBD, taxi about 300. You can also just ask one of the guards or attendants at places you visit such as Madhouse. They would no doubt direct you to some good choices.

Nguvu2
06-15-11, 01:15
Jhack, thanks for the info and and the blog site. Do you have any info as to where I can find the short rent rooms and how much they cost? Would there be girls hanging around such sites for an all in one stop?You may also try Annie Oakley's. Its just down the street from Sagret and Kenya Comfort Suites. Used to be full of action and there is a small hotel attached. Room rates must be very accomodating.

Happy time friend!

Matbro
06-16-11, 14:13
Wow my first time in Kenya has been breathtaking. The walking people in the hundreds then thousands as you drive by is my first big impresion. As for AccomadationI tried Africana and found it was way below what I could take. You classic boys ISG have my respect. But I had screaming Jesus from below in a couryard that never ended. Next day moved on to Green Court (they say. Greencot) in Latema Road (its a narrow entrance with stairs at the end and two flights before reception. I really recommend. Clean and secure, rightoutside is the main Matatu centre but very quiet without screaming jesus. At Ksh 3000 I was happy for a dble Rm. Met a beautiful lady at Simmers, yeah I know. But she was a real genuine lady so we hooked up and. Spent a couple of weeks travelling with her up to her Meru country and stayed in Isiolo, Samburu parks amazing never saw another 4wd and had the park to ourselves. Yeah I know should have played the feild but hey not a working girl

Bareback Jack
06-16-11, 17:39
...Wow my first time in Kenya has been breathtaking....Glad you enjoyed yourself. I said this many times before. Anyone can get what they are looking for in Kenya.


...Yeah I know should have played the feild but hey not a working girl...Working girl, semi pro, all these classifications don't mean really much in reality. Promiscuity is a national sport and genuine is a very broad term. But I'm glad you found what you were looking for. I take it you will be coming back to Kenya then?

Expat Kenya
06-17-11, 12:08
Working girl, semi pro, all these classifications don't mean really much in reality.Sure its not a big difference, working girl, semi pro, if you stay with the same girl 8 month per year yourself.

Bareback Jack
06-17-11, 21:17
Sure its not a big difference, working girl, semi pro, if you stay with the same girl 8 month per year yourself.I don't want to spawn off another lengthy discussion. So let me clarify what I meant. First of all these are all human beings and deserve to be treated with equal respect. I don't support social hierarchies that's why I said there is not much meaning to such classifications. However long you stay with someone is just a matter of choice and again has nothing to do with social stereotypes.

Member #4379
06-18-11, 09:51
Promiscuity is a national sport and genuine is a very broad term. [/QUOTE]Promiscuity might be ``a`national sport which could apply to ANY country but in most African countries, extortion is THE national sport rather than football. At all levels of government, a bribe is extorted in exchange for government approval of something you need, either entry of a good into the country or for services you require.

Johnympole
06-19-11, 08:07
Anyone know where to find some on-site brothels in Nairobi? Street location and landmarks nearby would be great. I'd like to try some on-site action and choose from a selection of girls if its possible.

Any details / information would be great.I can think of two such places in Nairobi CBD but if yu are white skin yu'd probably shock the gals. And' the staff

Sabina Joy aka Karamaindo and Modern Green. I'm not so good with street names but yu'll find the directions on google.

Expat Kenya
06-19-11, 11:43
I don't want to spawn off another lengthy discussion. So let me clarify what I meant. First of all these are all human beings and deserve to be treated with equal respect. I don't support social hierarchies that's why I said there is not much meaning to such classifications. However long you stay with someone is just a matter of choice and again has nothing to do with social stereotypes.The fact that all are human, does not mean we're all the same, equal and "deserve" to be treated with respect. Treated with respect by who and why? Mzungus are discriminated in Kenya. Mostly because of Mzungu's naivety, money and / or mixing emotions like loneliness with love etc. Go to a bar stuffed with people and no seats. Without asking, you'll have the best seat at the best spot in a wink of an eye. The most conning type of Kenyans who steal, lie, manipulate, drug mzungus to rob are prof malayas. Specially the lovers of high politicians. Not all, no by far not all malayas. Mentioning that is not to discriminate or stereotyping, its to inform. Westerns are even embarrassed to tell and worn others in public, even its a taboo to write anything negative that may look generalizing or discriminating. To write statements like.

We're all the same, we all have a right to bla bla is naive and ignorant.


but in most African countries, extortion is THE national sport rather than football. At all levels of government, a bribe is extorted in exchange for government approval of something you need, either entry of a good into the country or for services you require.Sure extortion and bribes are a national sport in Africa. In western countries we call these TAX when exchanging money for government approval of something you need. Its all the same, you have to pay an authority, which makes laws and maintain it in order to get done what you need "legally".

Vittu
06-20-11, 01:38
Norweez. Just look for a sign that says Day and Night club. Every woman you see at any hour of day / night is for hire. The accommodations may be rudimentary: a cubicle with walls that don't go all the way to the ceiling, but has a bed and a wash bowl. Bring your own rubber.

Member #4379
06-20-11, 16:30
Wait a second. Taxation through a democracy is legitimate, extortion, even in a democracy is illegal. There is a BIG difference. In Africa, most countries are still not democratic so citizens have no choice at all. Look at the USA they continue to elect only governments that won't increase taxes but extortion is still illegal. Africans don't have that choice. But extortion certainly substitutes for taxation when there is no proper taxation and then control of how that money is spent. Maybe that's your point. But I'd take democracy and taxation over extortion any time.

Sure extortion and bribes are a national sport in Africa. In western countries we call these TAX when exchanging money for government approval of something you need. Its all the same, you have to pay an authority, which makes laws and maintain it in order to get done what you need "legally". [/QUOTE]

Expat Kenya
06-20-11, 20:09
Wait a second. Taxation through a democracy is legitimate, extortion, even in a democracy is illegal. There is a BIG difference. In Africa, most countries are still not democratic so citizens have no choice at all. Look at the USA they continue to elect only governments that won't increase taxes but extortion is still illegal. Africans don't have that choice. But extortion certainly substitutes for taxation when there is no proper taxation and then control of how that money is spent. Maybe that's your point. But I'd take democracy and taxation over extortion any time.First, I think we're on the wrong forum here, there is a political forum here on ISG. Democracy is the suppression of a minority by a majority. Example: individuals do not decide for themselves if they wand their tax-money to be spend on bombing of Libyan citizens or not, the democratic chosen majority chooses for you that you'll be an accessory by paying tax-money. Western countries are famous in Africa for their extreme violent foreign policies. Like explained in this clip:

Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd-SLRyuRq0

Here is what I think of tax, bribes, extortion and governments in general:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TJIMqwJI2uI

Cheers!

Norweez
06-21-11, 18:38
Norweez. Just look for a sign that says Day and Night club. Every woman you see at any hour of day / night is for hire. The accommodations may be rudimentary: a cubicle with walls that don't go all the way to the ceiling, but has a bed and a wash bowl. Bring your own rubber.Thanks vittu, so I go to river road and search for a place with a sign that says day and night club, is this a bar or a club or a hostel?

Any info on the price for the room, sorry for the questions don't want to get ripped off?

By the way, does anyone know if Hotel Ambassadeur is girl friendly?

Any info will be greatly appreciated.

Member #4379
06-22-11, 16:57
I will be in Nairobi this Friday June 24th. If you are willing to send any numbers of bi-girls interested in a 3 hour 3some please send them to me via private message. That would be great.

Bareback Jack
06-23-11, 21:20
...To write statements like we're all the same, we all have a right to bla bla is naive and ignorant...That's fine by me. In this case I choose to be naive and ignorant

Member #4379
06-24-11, 06:42
Yes, democracy isn't perfect but at least in most democratic countries, not all, where there is proportional representation or at least negotiation between competing interests, the majority rules legitimately and minorities are protected from discrimination which is far superior to a dick-tatorship. And it isn't perfect since these democracies can still be hypocritical on foreign policy as you point out. It's a real joke when you hear Africans preach democracy but don't even have it or practise it themselves (e. G. Africans working at the UN or with international charities in their own country).

[QUOTE=Expat Kenya; 1168436]First, I think we're on the wrong forum here, there is a political forum here on ISG. Democracy is the suppression of a minority by a majority. Example: individuals do not decide for themselves if they wand their tax-money to be spend on bombing of Libyan citizens or not, the democratic chosen majority chooses for you that you'll be an accessory by paying tax-money. Western countries are famous in Africa for their extreme violent foreign policies. Like explained in this clip:

Member #4379
06-29-11, 13:29
I`ve just returned from my first trip to Nairobi and here are my thoughts:

I visited Florida Madhouse, Florida 2000, Black Diamond and Gypsies. It would appear that the much older and more hard core hookers are at Florida Madhouse while Gypsies in Westlands is where the better looking and younger hookers hang out. So the selection is better at Gypsies but the price is most likely higher than 2, 000 Ksh since most of the mzungus seem to be well established and living in Nairobi.

I highly recommend AfroIntroductions (max 1 month) since Metrodate (free site) has mostly pros. But again if you feel out their money situation (e. G. Is someone paying for their schooling or are they working) desperation increases as the money declines. All 3 I met on Afro in the 5 days I was there were great (1 full sex but very desperate afterwards, gave her 2. 000 but she wanted `shopping`, the other 1 was struggling job wise but had USA mom paying her housing so lots of foreplay but nothing more and the last one was fully supported in school from her family so after 2 hours I got a free BBJ.

Final one on Facebook was just DATY but has promised reciprocal when I come back. She has the most money but the least looking.

JanosB
06-30-11, 06:14
Hello ISG,

Are there any photographer in Nairobi, that is paying young girls from Mombasa / lamu for photographs? I heard he is paying them money to go to school / study. I heard he is not fucking for it, can anyone tell me who that is? He is a older white australian.

BionicMan
06-30-11, 13:26
Hello, ISG,

Are there any photographer in Nairobi, that is paying young girls from Mombasa / lamu for photographs? I heard he is paying them money to go to school / study. I heard he is not fucking for it, can anyone tell me who that is? He is a older white australian.I am seriously questioning whether such a message should be here.

Zimzam
07-03-11, 20:38
There's a long story in the Daily Nation about "The double lives of university students"

You can read it here:

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/The+double+lives+of+university+students+/-/1056/1193332/-/7rwlk4/-/index.html



It was a few minutes to 8 pm when Beth's cell phone alerted her to a text message. 'Come with eight girls. Mix them in different styles. Take a cab and let's meet in South B, ' it read.

Beth, who had been waiting with her friends for the message, was excited. They had to dress scantily, she told the young women who would soon make a short journey to the underworld where illicit sex, alcohol and rich men mix in one of Nairobi's latest fads. Etc. Etc.

Gesheft
07-04-11, 13:18
Is anyone in town Nairobi this week & interested to join in with this babe.

153642

She seems quite wild & willing.

PM only!

G

LustyHombre
07-04-11, 18:30
There's a long story in the Daily Nation about "The double lives of university students"

You can read it here:

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/The+double+lives+of+university+students+/-/1056/1193332/-/7rwlk4/-/index.html

It was a few minutes to 8 pm when Beth's cell phone alerted her to a text message. 'Come with eight girls. Mix them in different styles. Take a cab and let's meet in South B, ' it read.

Beth, who had been waiting with her friends for the message, was excited. They had to dress scantily, she told the young women who would soon make a short journey to the underworld where illicit sex, alcohol and rich men mix in one of Nairobi's latest fads. Etc. Etc.Zimzam : this has been going on for decades now, both in NBO and MBA (and presumably all over the world as well bcs what's the easiest way for a goodlooking girl to make some serious dough without anybody spilling the beans?) ; it's just that nobody has sensationialized it as yet until this poor post-grad girl got killed a few weeks back in Westlands.

R. I. P. , poor thing! My heart goes out to her parents though who believed she was a real Yehowa's Witness! She's gone but how do they cope with all the shame?

Andy Pierce
07-09-11, 05:00
I need some help in finding suitable accommodation in Nairobi. I would prefer apartment 1 bedroom is fine. Any ideas. Planning to be there in middle of August for about 7 days. Any suggestions would be appreciated. You can PM me I think or just post to the thread is ok

AhmedB75
07-09-11, 19:47
I need some help in finding suitable accommodation in Nairobi. I would prefer apartment 1 bedroom is fine. Any ideas. Planning to be there in middle of August for about 7 days. Any suggestions would be appreciated. You can PM me I think or just post to the thread is okTry Natural Oak Apartments. I spent there 1 week last year. Nice apartments, absolutely GF.

But a liitle bit far from the center. 10-15 minutes by taxi. You can book directly with them by e-mail.

www.naturaloak.co.ke

Professor J
07-11-11, 15:55
Try Natural Oak Apartments. I spent there 1 week last year. Nice apartments, absolutely GF.

But a liitle bit far from the center. 10-15 minutes by taxi. You can book directly with them by e-mail.

www.naturaloak.co.keDzikusek,

Natural Oaks Apartments sound a good option of GF budget hotel for mongering in Nairobi.

I am thinking to book it now.

My last consern is how easy to get a taxi around bar areas (such as New Florida) at night.

You know in some cities it is very difficult to find a taxi at night.

Therefore, staying in a hotel nearby the theme becomes a good option.

Can you elaborate a little bit on the taxi issues? Thanks.

Jamie69
07-11-11, 18:45
Dzikusek,

Natural Oaks Apartments sound a good option of GF budget hotel for mongering in Nairobi.

I am thinking to book it now.

My last consern is how easy to get a taxi around bar areas (such as New Florida) at night.

You know in some cities it is very difficult to find a taxi at night.

Therefore, staying in a hotel nearby the theme becomes a good option.

Can you elaborate a little bit on the taxi issues? Thanks.The Taxis are always hanging around outside waiting. You will have no problem. I took the numbers of a couple of reliable non rip-off drivers and just buzzed them which worked ok.

AhmedB75
07-11-11, 19:07
Dzikusek,

Natural Oaks Apartments sound a good option of GF budget hotel for mongering in Nairobi.

I am thinking to book it now.

My last consern is how easy to get a taxi around bar areas (such as New Florida) at night.

You know in some cities it is very difficult to find a taxi at night.

Therefore, staying in a hotel nearby the theme becomes a good option.

Can you elaborate a little bit on the taxi issues? Thanks.No problem at all with taxis.

There were always taxis waiting at the entrance to Madhouse.

But don't forget to negociate the price!

Going from N. O. A. To the city, just ask the security guy at the gate to call a taxi for you. Usually very nice guys BTW.

Have a chat with them, give them a gift or a small tip: during my stay they were a good source of any information (taxi fares, clubs, food, shopping etc).

They even can arrange for girl (girls) if you don't want to go to the city.

One day I was not in mood to go to the city so I asked the guy at the gate to arrange for girls. No problem at all!

After half an hour 2 girls (students) arrived (OK, one was totally stoned). I took them both, nice threesome.

The advantage of this place is: it's quiet at night and safe.

Nairobi city centre is loud.

However, if you prefer to be in the "middle of action", don't go to the N. O. A.

I was staying at Hilton (expensive as hell and not good at all) and Fairview (very nice but even more expensive than Hilton).

I certainly would book it again. But next time I would insist on having my apartment not at the highest floor: there is no lift which means: endless stairs! And the water prsssure was not that good. But everything else was perfect for me. : clean, nice furnished, full equipped kitchen, swimming pool, privacy, free internet, very nice staff.