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LustyHombre
09-04-10, 18:21
I have always said to friends that the girls deserve a fair price but at the same time us fellow mongerers shouldn't be over charged. Everyone is talking about 1000-3000 for the company of a girl.Whereas you are talking about in between 5000-10000 which seems to be even more than prices back home!!

Some of the girls over the years have agreed a price with me but have then told clients and friends that they were paid a lot more. Certain clients seem to believe these stories and are then caught up in a spiral which have ruined some destinations. A way to judge an imbalance is where a girl could be earning what an average kenyan would earn in a month for a small period of time with you.

I have also been involved in the business and it is my observation that the way destinations flourish is when the girls receive a fair price and punters are not over charged.Who should determine the "fair price"? Maybe The ISG Price Control Board (I know already now whom I would nominate as the 1st chairman).

And would it not be reasonable if a hottie thinks she deserves to be in a higher pay scale than a plain Jane? And what premium would you allow for BBJ over CBJ, for example?

What we are talking about here are actual market prices, from the low to the high; I believe, whether any of these are fair is to be judged solely by the payee and the payer, not by any 3rd party.

We 3rd parties just note what's going on and either vote with our pocketbook or our feet.

Jbond
09-05-10, 01:10
Who should determine the "fair price"? Maybe The ISG Price Control Board (I know already now whom I would nominate as the 1st chairman).

And would it not be reasonable if a hottie thinks she deserves to be in a higher pay scale than a plain Jane? And what premium would you allow for BBJ over CBJ, for example?

What we are talking about here are actual market prices, from the low to the high; I believe, whether any of these are fair is to be judged solely by the payee and the payer, not by any 3rd party.

We 3rd parties just note what's going on and either vote with our pocketbook or our feet.I thought ISG was akin to a written version of 'Band of Brothers' engendering a certain togetherness and team play amongst us all. Otherwise in time Kenya will be ruined by guys paying western prices and blindly sending money to your so called hotties who have four or five boyfriends on the side.I have seen it happen elsewhere and I don't want to say I told you so in years to come.

As a point of principal,I will not take the easy route and accept whatever inflated rate the girl tells me to pay and trying to outdo my fellow members by trying to pay more than them. I do think about keeping prices at a level which is reasonable for me,the girl, Kenya as a destination and fellow ISG members.

Everyone on the rest of the forum seems to think the rate is 1000-3000 by so called hotties.Surely everyone must know that 5,000-10,000 is a western price and what an average Kenyan is earning per month working all hours compared to your working girl who is earning their equivalent in a few hours and sending her kids to private school. Which most of the population cannot afford to do.I am just in agreement with everyone else and I hope my thoughts can be seen as a constructive overview.

Jbond
09-05-10, 11:11
And in Florida Nightclub even plain Janes ask for 5k for ST and the good looking girls up to 10k , and much more when the US Navy is in port ; all depends upon where you go ( LOCATION, LOCATION , just like in Real Estate : Many of the top Florida girls live in Mtwapa or Bamburi village and do their shopping at Nakumatt Nyali early afternoons . They are happy to do a ST later in the afternoon near where they live for 2k or thereabouts , always with BBJ , and many will offer BBFS and anal once they figure you as a potential repeat client .

Somebody like me is "incremental revenue" for them . At night, they invest an hour of their time plus matatu money to get downtown to compete for the real money .Sorry, yes you asked how do you judge a fair price. Well there are a couple of ways apart from my previous thoughts.

Firstly, your expensive hottie will conveniently forget to mention apart from the local Kenyan guy who may be living off her at home that most of her business in actual fact comes from kenyan guys who have been known to pay up to four to five hundred kes but invariably will operate on a barter system. This means let me get my leg over and in return I will provide you wilth a couple of chickens or a goat.

One understands that as a mazunga you will be paying more but not a mark up which equates to twenty times more than a Kenyan guy. There is one unspoken secret amongst all working girls around the world that the foreigner, tourist, mazunga is the cream on the cake and they must not know what the locals are in actual fact paying them.

So yes you are maybe right maybe we should not be all about sex and money. The next time you see her, talk the language of love and come prepared with a couple of chickens or a goat and see what she says.

The second way I work it out is more of in a mathematical way, believe it or not. Which I would gladly explain over a beer, while looking out for the local talent in some nearby den of iniquity!

Willyboy
09-05-10, 11:32
I thought ISG was akin to a written version of 'Band of Brothers' engendering a certain togetherness and team play amongst us all. Otherwise in time Kenya will be ruined by guys paying western prices and blindly sending money to your so called hotties who have four or five boyfriends on the side.I have seen it happen elsewhere and I don't want to say I told you so in years to come.

As a point of principal,I will not take the easy route and accept whatever inflated rate the girl tells me to pay and trying to outdo my fellow members by trying to pay more than them. I do think about keeping prices at a level which is reasonable for me,the girl, Kenya as a destination and fellow ISG members.

Everyone on the rest of the forum seems to think the rate is 1000-3000 by so called hotties.Surely everyone must know that 5,000-10,000 is a western price and what an average Kenyan is earning per month working all hours compared to your working girl who is earning their equivalent in a few hours and sending her kids to private school. Which most of the population cannot afford to do.I am just in agreement with everyone else and I hope my thoughts can be seen as a constructive overview.I have 100 messages written with the same aim. But still I get the wind. Usually these are the same people on this forum.

Willyboy
09-05-10, 11:42
That mzungu andestand that normal Kenya salery for ONE MONTH. From 7000ksh to 10. 000kes. Kenya girl want this money for one night (why not). Not 10 procent of Kenya workers having +10. 000ksh/month.

The minimum salery in Kenya is 6000ksh for evry worker. Only if this worker having job. My brother. This salery is 2tot 3 euro/day (3to 5 dollar/day). Write not stupid text about 10. 000ksh/night. Make not competition about high prices.

Member #4178
09-05-10, 15:18
Mombasas pro pricing scheme is based on one factor: The factor is if the girl likes you or not.

If yes it could be free to pocket money, if not they they can refuse or just give you a non realistic price which will be very high.

I just back from mtwapa with two of my friends, thus guys are 28 and 31 years
old. both of them got ladies from casurina disco from free to 500. one of them got it for free. he is a good friend of mine.

They also used to collect phone number from the ladies at disco, then they called them during daytime. Also the best time to ladies to come with you is around 2:30AM. when no other option available.

We have a long discussions about that. they manage to transform the pro to a cat. I saw it myself.

For me i just got a few free babes during daytime. here is a video frame capture from my HD camcorder of a 182cm tall lady.

LustyHombre
09-06-10, 05:23
Boy, oh boy, where does all this heat come from ? I have never ADVOCATED paying 5 or 10k ! All I have ever said is that I get unlimited PS/GF services for 2k from a lady who makes her living from providing a very restricted menu at 5 to 10 k from a very clearly defined market segment .

Can't you all read properly ??

I'll leave you all with a final observation in this fruitless discussion :

Arguing on the internet is a bit like competing in the Special Olympics in that even though you may win the Gold Medal, you are still an Idiot in everyday life !

Jbond
09-06-10, 10:21
Mombasas pro pricing scheme is based on one factor: The factor is if the girl likes you or not.

If yes it could be free to pocket money, if not they they can refuse or just give you a non realistic price which will be very high.

I just back from mtwapa with two of my friends, thus guys are 28 and 31 years
old. both of them got ladies from casurina disco from free to 500. one of them got it for free. he is a good friend of mine.

They also used to collect phone number from the ladies at disco, then they called them during daytime. Also the best time to ladies to come with you is around 2:30AM. when no other option available.

We have a long discussions about that. they manage to transform the pro to a cat. I saw it myself.

For me i just got a few free babes during daytime. here is a video frame capture from my HD camcorder of a 182cm tall lady.This is more like it. I am in agreement with the above,somebody who paints a realistic picture. I am in Nairobi from the 14th and Mtwapa from the 19th.So I will be very interested to see you all at work so to speak in Madhouse and Casuarina.

Jbond
09-06-10, 10:49
You are overlooking an important aspect: The new arrivals in Mtwapa don't pick that town for its scenery but bcs they heard that Mtwapa is the place to be if you want to make it big as a malaya.

They are just inexperienced and maybe a bit clumsy at first, but certainly very eager to learn. With other words: no effort needed in Mtwapa at all, regardless of whether she is established or a newbie. I had one of the recent arrivals yesterday (incredible body, 22 yrs old, no baby as yet, Nubian/Massai mix from Kibera. Looking for a parking at Nakumatt the day before, I saw her walking toward the Safaricom office, ogling her delicious ass, she spotted me eying her and was she there as soon as I had found a parking spot. " Sorry, no time now, but give me your phone no for later " and I met her at a bar near her apptmnt in Mtwapa next day and was in the sack with her after the first drink. As I said, incredible body, beautiful full A's or maybe small B's, very willing to try whatever but totally unexperienced) Verdict: nothing for me. Let somebody else invest the time and effort to teach her the ropes while she does it for free or next to nothing. I rather pay the going rate or beyond for a top-of-the-line performance, without getting invested emotionally.I have noticed that Lusty Hombre,John Palmer(pictures)and Loso 69 have put in good reports recently about their sexual adventures but otherwise there are remarkably few reports compared with let's say the DR and Thailand forums which have a lot of reports of distinction.

ISG has a good Kenya members forum,great location,great girls in terms of volume and quality,so it would be awesome to hear more about everyone's daily and nightly love safaris.The chase,the girls,the sexual/tension ambience of locations and the bedroom antics/gymnastics that follow.After all this is ISG and not a home shopping website.

Gesheft
09-06-10, 19:41
For me i just got a few free babes during daytime. here is a video frame capture from my HD camcorder of a 182cm tall lady.

OK JP .. you have us slivering ... More please ! :)

Goodyear!
G

Steptoe
09-06-10, 21:37
When I was planning my first visit to Kenya and Mombasa I got a huge amount of information from this forum and two members, Fun And Sun & Noddy, were kind enough to respond to a couple of queries that I posted.

I believe in giving back as well as taking so wanted to post an account of my trip. At the same time I’m aware that most members are more experienced about this venue than I am and it would be presumptuous of me to offer advice so I’ve tried to just include the interesting bits and my opinions. I’ve put a fuller, more informational version on GGC if anyone is also a member on there.

Arriving outside the Kendas Arcade Hotel in Mtwapa was a déjà vu moment, after having viewed the facade on their website so many times, but what did surprise was the rather lacklustre reception arrangements; after all this was midday and the place should have been heaving.

The lack of a wardrobe, fridge, and AC didn’t trouble me, from my research this is the norm for accommodation in this price range (I was quoted 1400KSH for a single with breakfast) and it wasn’t until I was sitting in the adjoining open-air bar later on in the afternoon, enjoying a pot of tea, that the uncomfortable truth dawned, I’d checked into a hotel which was probably designed to cater to the short-time market! A notice over the passageway (Arcade?) leading to the rest of the hotel proudly proclaimed ‘this way to the accommodation and restaurant’, and the reason for the reception being un-(wo)manned during daylight hours suddenly became apparent. Being roused from my slumbers by a couple trying to get into my room with their key in the early hours of the morning did nothing to allay these suspicions. Never mind, I’d paid up front for two nights and I was determined to enjoy the experience.

The evening promised much; apart from the opportunity to visit the Casarina Disco, just a few minutes’ walk up the road, at night the hotel’s first-floor restaurant metamorphs into a VIP lap-dancing club and pole dancers and other entertainers perform in the bar. The bar and disco attracts a large clientele, mostly locals with a smattering of ex-pats and this is the main disadvantage of staying at the Arcade. The rooms are located around a central atrium and this method of construction funnels and amplifies the noise from the downstairs entertainment areas. As the disco continues until dawn this location won’t suit light sleepers.

The next day gave me the opportunity to really explore my surroundings. I suppose Mtwapa must be typical of many small African townships, a chaotic noisy maelstrom of humanity and traffic. The one tarmaced road is the main highway through the town, the rest are sandy tracks, all of these being lined with a jumbled succession of businesses, bars, and stalls. I had expected to be continually hustled but, perhaps because this is not really a tourist zone, I was treated exactly like the few other white ex-pats that were wandering around, that is accepted and ignored. The internet legends of the streets of Mtwapa being paved with women desperate for your stash are sadly untrue. There are lots of working girls wandering around during the day, these being easily distinguishable to a punter, and no doubt could be chatted up, but they are certainly too reserved to approach you. There is a supermarket not too far away for shopping for any necessities and this is a good place to change larger notes for the more useful 100’s and 500’s.

The public beach is a good venue to meet malayas but beyond walking distance, so if staying in Mtwapa one will need to befriend a moto taxi guy, they are parked at many of the busy intersections, however there is nothing to distinguish them from anyone else. Halfway to Bamburi I realised that my man had no wing mirrors, so maybe they don’t have licences or insurance either. The other cheap way to travel is the matatus, or minibus taxis, however these just seemed to go up and down the main road between Mombasa and Malindi so no use for venturing down the side roads. You can, though, get off at the Pirates sign and access the public beach from here.
Whilst strolling along the sands I came across the Bamburi Beach Resort, another venue that I’d studied on my computer screen. In fact after stopping for a drink in the bar and inspecting the rooms, I felt comfortable enough to book up for the following days. The price in August was 4500KHS per night (same price for one or two persons) and I couldn’t negotiate anything off this at all, so three times the price of the Kendas, however the beach location and the separate cottages in the grounds (so no need to parade anybody past reception) swung it for me. Mtwapa is really for ex-pats and on this occasion I was a holiday maker.

On reflection I think I might have been rather harsh in my judgment of the Kendas, it was reasonable value for money as accommodation is very expensive here, and the location in the centre of Mtwapa’s nightlife is superb. In fact, together with the Casarina, it is the nightlife, and there is a great advantage in just going upstairs after an convivial evening, or early morning, rather than having to start negotiations with a taxi driver for the journey home.

I can understand why the Bamburi Resort gets poor reviews on trip advisor as the standard of accommodation is a bit lower than the palaces on either side; however it does proudly proclaim that its room rates are lower than any other beach front location. The manager told me that they will only take reservations for a room but not a particular room; this of course is normal practice but a significant disappointment here, as the cottages are all individually located within the grounds as well as offering a choice of upstairs or ground floor accommodation. In fact the rustic dilapidation suited me perfectly, I am not a lover of identikit hotels, the only caveat I make is that, as I am not a gregarious person, I would have preferred a private veranda. There is no TV or room safe so you will need to sort out your own nighttime entertainment and ensure that you draw out enough funds to pay for this during office hours. However I am most disappointed to have to mention that, in all my years of travelling in various countries, this is the only venue where I have had anything stolen from my room. Actually it was quite a clever scam as, when a monkey suddenly appeared on my veranda rail, and just like any normal tourist would, I grabbed my camera and crept out, hoping not to frighten it away. In fact it just disdainfully ignored me until the photo was taken but, when I turned around, I found that its mate had taken the opportunity to filch a packet of biscuits from inside my room; the whole tribe then sat in the rafters and shared them out.

The place makes truly excellent lodgings for punters though this fact isn’t mentioned on their website. There is no reception as such, only an office which keeps normal office hours, guests are therefore expected to keep their room keys with them and so the only walk of shame at nighttimes is past the askari. These security men perform a vital function in keeping out unattached ladies and as there is a beach entrance and a road entrance it is quite possible to run multiple partners with no danger of inadvertent clashes. However it seems that the tales on the internet of girls flocking around here in the evening are also urban myths as, once darkness falls, the beach becomes deserted apart from a few tourists. One of the girls I that I chatted to told me that the police would round up stray unaccompanied girls and levy a ‘fine’, “Surely it’s ok after dark though?” I worriedly enquired, “No, the police then walk along in plain clothes” was the reply. The only place where this rule is not enforced is the public beach next to Pirates. How long this clampdown has been in force I don’t know, nor do I know if it is likely to be permanent, but I do seem fated to arrive at venues just after the good times have come to an end.

During my visit the new Kenyan constitution was proclaimed, an occasion for much rejoicing and allowing a national holiday to be declared and I took this opportunity to explore Mtwapa’s nightlife. There are several local bar/discos but the only names that I can remember are ‘The Bahnhof’ and ‘Palm Resort’as well as the (in)famous Casarina but my advice is to head straight for the latter. This is the only one to charge admission and so tends to be more exclusive. I found the other places to be packed to the extent of the girls being considerably outnumbered by the local lads, (obviously this disproportion may not be so apparent on normal days) whilst the Casarina was packed with girls (who are allowed in free) with the only local competitors those who could afford the entrance fee. The odds are therefore well stacked in the mzungas favour, furthermore the girls who come here are actively seeking a date with us, which may not necessarily be the case in the local bars.

Any mongering holiday sinks or swims on the quality of the girls and by this definition my trip was a resounding success. It could be argued that my two ‘wives’ and an afternoon ST hardly constitutes a representative sample but I did chat to many more girls, and the adjective that continually came to mind was sweet. Maybe it’s the African tradition of subservience to one’s menfolk, maybe its respect for an elder fatherly figure, or maybe it’s just about the money after all. Whatever the reason, the girls are desperate to capture a trophy muzunga, proud to be seen at his side, and anxious to hold on to him. They went along with whatever was wanted, ST or LT, but their choice was LT and well into the next day (and the next day and the next day!) The concept of doing a runner, or getting the early hour’s phone call, or having to go home to the baby, is happily still an alien concept here. It would have been impossible for me to penny pinch in the face of such real poverty so I paid the ISG suggested rates of 1000/2000KSH for ST/LT but I am 99% certain that even if I’d only paid either of my girls for a ST at night, she would have still automatically stayed till morning; apart from anything else, for a girl to travel home alone in the early hours would be inviting robbery of her earnings.

I won’t go into great detail on here about the girls performance, suffice to say I was literally overwhelmed by the porn-star performance both of the LT’s gave, beyond anything I’ve yet experienced.

I suppose it is inevitable to draw comparisons with Thailand as I have spent so much time there. It is said that a punter will always be drawn to the country where he first experienced his awakening, so to speak, so I guess I will always prefer my coffee milky rather than black and, to be honest, I prefer the reserved demeanor of the Thais rather than the in-your-face friendliness of the Africans. However the uninhibited enthusiastic attitude of my African Queens towards lovemaking was beyond comparison, I can now see the reasoning behind the saying ‘once you’ve had black you’ll never go back’. By lucky coincidence I live literally just across the North Sea from Schipol so, given a good connection, the door to door journey could be as little as twelve hours. Add to this the lack of jet lag, and Mombasa could easily be a destination for a long weekend and the idea of a holiday home somewhere on the coast doesn’t seem quite so fanciful after all.

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Jbond
09-06-10, 22:30
When I was planning my first visit to Kenya and Mombasa I got a huge amount of information from this forum and two members, Fun And Sun & Noddy, were kind enough to respond to a couple of queries that I posted.

I believe in giving back as well as taking so wanted to post an account of my trip. At the same time I’m aware that most members are more experienced about this venue than I am and it would be presumptuous of me to offer advice so I’ve tried to just include the interesting bits and my opinions. I’ve put a fuller, more informational version on GGC if anyone is also a member on there.

Arriving outside the Kendas Arcade Hotel in Mtwapa was a déjà vu moment, after having viewed the facade on their website so many times, but what did surprise was the rather lacklustre reception arrangements; after all this was midday and the place should have been heaving.

The lack of a wardrobe, fridge, and AC didn’t trouble me, from my research this is the norm for accommodation in this price range (I was quoted 1400KSH for a single with breakfast) and it wasn’t until I was sitting in the adjoining open-air bar later on in the afternoon, enjoying a pot of tea, that the uncomfortable truth dawned, I’d checked into a hotel which was probably designed to cater to the short-time market! A notice over the passageway (Arcade?) leading to the rest of the hotel proudly proclaimed ‘this way to the accommodation and restaurant’, and the reason for the reception being un-(wo)manned during daylight hours suddenly became apparent. Being roused from my slumbers by a couple trying to get into my room with their key in the early hours of the morning did nothing to allay these suspicions. Never mind, I’d paid up front for two nights and I was determined to enjoy the experience.

The evening promised much; apart from the opportunity to visit the Casarina Disco, just a few minutes’ walk up the road, at night the hotel’s first-floor restaurant metamorphs into a VIP lap-dancing club and pole dancers and other entertainers perform in the bar. The bar and disco attracts a large clientele, mostly locals with a smattering of ex-pats and this is the main disadvantage of staying at the Arcade. The rooms are located around a central atrium and this method of construction funnels and amplifies the noise from the downstairs entertainment areas. As the disco continues until dawn this location won’t suit light sleepers.

The next day gave me the opportunity to really explore my surroundings. I suppose Mtwapa must be typical of many small African townships, a chaotic noisy maelstrom of humanity and traffic. The one tarmaced road is the main highway through the town, the rest are sandy tracks, all of these being lined with a jumbled succession of businesses, bars, and stalls. I had expected to be continually hustled but, perhaps because this is not really a tourist zone, I was treated exactly like the few other white ex-pats that were wandering around, that is accepted and ignored. The internet legends of the streets of Mtwapa being paved with women desperate for your stash are sadly untrue. There are lots of working girls wandering around during the day, these being easily distinguishable to a punter, and no doubt could be chatted up, but they are certainly too reserved to approach you. There is a supermarket not too far away for shopping for any necessities and this is a good place to change larger notes for the more useful 100’s and 500’s.

The public beach is a good venue to meet malayas but beyond walking distance, so if staying in Mtwapa one will need to befriend a moto taxi guy, they are parked at many of the busy intersections, however there is nothing to distinguish them from anyone else. Halfway to Bamburi I realised that my man had no wing mirrors, so maybe they don’t have licences or insurance either. The other cheap way to travel is the matatus, or minibus taxis, however these just seemed to go up and down the main road between Mombasa and Malindi so no use for venturing down the side roads. You can, though, get off at the Pirates sign and access the public beach from here.
Whilst strolling along the sands I came across the Bamburi Beach Resort, another venue that I’d studied on my computer screen. In fact after stopping for a drink in the bar and inspecting the rooms, I felt comfortable enough to book up for the following days. The price in August was 4500KHS per night (same price for one or two persons) and I couldn’t negotiate anything off this at all, so three times the price of the Kendas, however the beach location and the separate cottages in the grounds (so no need to parade anybody past reception) swung it for me. Mtwapa is really for ex-pats and on this occasion I was a holiday maker.

On reflection I think I might have been rather harsh in my judgment of the Kendas, it was reasonable value for money as accommodation is very expensive here, and the location in the centre of Mtwapa’s nightlife is superb. In fact, together with the Casarina, it is the nightlife, and there is a great advantage in just going upstairs after an convivial evening, or early morning, rather than having to start negotiations with a taxi driver for the journey home.

I can understand why the Bamburi Resort gets poor reviews on trip advisor as the standard of accommodation is a bit lower than the palaces on either side; however it does proudly proclaim that its room rates are lower than any other beach front location. The manager told me that they will only take reservations for a room but not a particular room; this of course is normal practice but a significant disappointment here, as the cottages are all individually located within the grounds as well as offering a choice of upstairs or ground floor accommodation. In fact the rustic dilapidation suited me perfectly, I am not a lover of identikit hotels, the only caveat I make is that, as I am not a gregarious person, I would have preferred a private veranda. There is no TV or room safe so you will need to sort out your own nighttime entertainment and ensure that you draw out enough funds to pay for this during office hours. However I am most disappointed to have to mention that, in all my years of travelling in various countries, this is the only venue where I have had anything stolen from my room. Actually it was quite a clever scam as, when a monkey suddenly appeared on my veranda rail, and just like any normal tourist would, I grabbed my camera and crept out, hoping not to frighten it away. In fact it just disdainfully ignored me until the photo was taken but, when I turned around, I found that its mate had taken the opportunity to filch a packet of biscuits from inside my room; the whole tribe then sat in the rafters and shared them out.

The place makes truly excellent lodgings for punters though this fact isn’t mentioned on their website. There is no reception as such, only an office which keeps normal office hours, guests are therefore expected to keep their room keys with them and so the only walk of shame at nighttimes is past the askari. These security men perform a vital function in keeping out unattached ladies and as there is a beach entrance and a road entrance it is quite possible to run multiple partners with no danger of inadvertent clashes. However it seems that the tales on the internet of girls flocking around here in the evening are also urban myths as, once darkness falls, the beach becomes deserted apart from a few tourists. One of the girls I that I chatted to told me that the police would round up stray unaccompanied girls and levy a ‘fine’, “Surely it’s ok after dark though?” I worriedly enquired, “No, the police then walk along in plain clothes” was the reply. The only place where this rule is not enforced is the public beach next to Pirates. How long this clampdown has been in force I don’t know, nor do I know if it is likely to be permanent, but I do seem fated to arrive at venues just after the good times have come to an end.

During my visit the new Kenyan constitution was proclaimed, an occasion for much rejoicing and allowing a national holiday to be declared and I took this opportunity to explore Mtwapa’s nightlife. There are several local bar/discos but the only names that I can remember are ‘The Bahnhof’ and ‘Palm Resort’as well as the (in)famous Casarina but my advice is to head straight for the latter. This is the only one to charge admission and so tends to be more exclusive. I found the other places to be packed to the extent of the girls being considerably outnumbered by the local lads, (obviously this disproportion may not be so apparent on normal days) whilst the Casarina was packed with girls (who are allowed in free) with the only local competitors those who could afford the entrance fee. The odds are therefore well stacked in the mzungas favour, furthermore the girls who come here are actively seeking a date with us, which may not necessarily be the case in the local bars.

Any mongering holiday sinks or swims on the quality of the girls and by this definition my trip was a resounding success. It could be argued that my two ‘wives’ and an afternoon ST hardly constitutes a representative sample but I did chat to many more girls, and the adjective that continually came to mind was sweet. Maybe it’s the African tradition of subservience to one’s menfolk, maybe its respect for an elder fatherly figure, or maybe it’s just about the money after all. Whatever the reason, the girls are desperate to capture a trophy muzunga, proud to be seen at his side, and anxious to hold on to him. They went along with whatever was wanted, ST or LT, but their choice was LT and well into the next day (and the next day and the next day!) The concept of doing a runner, or getting the early hour’s phone call, or having to go home to the baby, is happily still an alien concept here. It would have been impossible for me to penny pinch in the face of such real poverty so I paid the ISG suggested rates of 1000/2000KSH for ST/LT but I am 99% certain that even if I’d only paid either of my girls for a ST at night, she would have still automatically stayed till morning; apart from anything else, for a girl to travel home alone in the early hours would be inviting robbery of her earnings.

I won’t go into great detail on here about the girls performance, suffice to say I was literally overwhelmed by the porn-star performance both of the LT’s gave, beyond anything I’ve yet experienced.

I suppose it is inevitable to draw comparisons with Thailand as I have spent so much time there. It is said that a punter will always be drawn to the country where he first experienced his awakening, so to speak, so I guess I will always prefer my coffee milky rather than black and, to be honest, I prefer the reserved demeanor of the Thais rather than the in-your-face friendliness of the Africans. However the uninhibited enthusiastic attitude of my African Queens towards lovemaking was beyond comparison, I can now see the reasoning behind the saying ‘once you’ve had black you’ll never go back’. By lucky coincidence I live literally just across the North Sea from Schipol so, given a good connection, the door to door journey could be as little as twelve hours. Add to this the lack of jet lag, and Mombasa could easily be a destination for a long weekend and the idea of a holiday home somewhere on the coast doesn’t seem quite so fanciful after all.

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Expat Kenya
09-06-10, 23:39
There is more to life than just sex and money , especially if you have an abundance of both .

Some may think that he is an utter fool , but maybe your friend is happy to know that he is able to help her entire extended family?Maybe your friend is happy to know I fuck his girlfriend for free, and on top she pays my drinks whenever I wand. Let him think he is to help her entire extended family,no problem, keep on sending money guys. Kenya is to fuck, or being fucked.

Willyboy
09-07-10, 08:34
LH I'm going to propose Nobel Prize for paece.Thanks for your nice choice of words against unknown persons.

Member #4178
09-07-10, 16:53
Just want to add that some of the Non-pro performance is not nearly so good as most of the pro. Many non-pro can come in a few minutes and the story ends. Some non-pro has a sleeping behaviour, silence as a fish as far as conversation is concerned or just boring has hell. so semi pro has a great benefits.

For a tourist, the best performance can be Squeeze from the disco ladies. some of them are just normal ladies that after small money and a good time.
this is a specially true for casaurina. Tembo is full of hard core pro.

JP

LustyHombre
09-07-10, 18:17
Maybe your friend is happy to know I fuck his girlfriend for free, and on top she pays my drinks whenever I wand. Let him think he is to help her entire extended family,no problem, keep on sending money guys. Kenya is to fuck, or being fucked.This country surely needs more mean spirited expats like you!

Expat Kenya
09-08-10, 10:40
This country surely needs more mean spirited expats like you!LH,

I can not remember I have ever called you any names or personal attacked you. Having said that, to think you are supporting extend families is utterly blindness. I do not demand or force anything from any girl, they offer me dinners and nights out, out of free will, and because they can afford to do so, in return they hope to get sex, sometimes I give them what they wand.

You are calling me mean, but hey, it is how it works with all Kenyan guys, wake up! The more malayas falling in love with you, giving you presents, drinks, dinners the higher your status. In one case I know a Toyota Rav4 was offered to a (kenyan) boyfriend from mzungu money.

You expect these ladies only to fuck and being paid only, why do malayas not have the same rights you guys do? They also pay for their sexual needs. In bars these girls go out with 30. 000 shilling, all Kenyan friends are ordered 3 beers each round, smirnoff ice or a bottle of wine, the malaya pays for everything. Yes LH, these girls enjoy life to the fullest!

At least these girls do not use their money to put innocent people in jail as I wrote earlier on this forum, these malayas are good hearted and off course well respected by mail friends.

You can not judge me because I accept gifts and drinks which they have worked for. You decide 'sponsor' a malaya, thats between you and her, she decides to spend her money on me, that's between her and me.

Live and let live, Kenya is to fuck or being fucked.

Cheers

Jbond
09-08-10, 22:43
LH,

I can not remember I have ever called you any names or personal attacked you. Having said that, to think you are supporting extend families is utterly blindness. I do not demand or force anything from any girl, they offer me dinners and nights out, out of free will, and because they can afford to do so, in return they hope to get sex, sometimes I give them what they wand.

You are calling me mean, but hey, it is how it works with all Kenyan guys, wake up! The more malayas falling in love with you, giving you presents, drinks, dinners the higher your status. In one case I know a Toyota Rav4 was offered to a (kenyan) boyfriend from mzungu money.

You expect these ladies only to fuck and being paid only, why do malayas not have the same rights you guys do? They also pay for their sexual needs. In bars these girls go out with 30. 000 shilling, all Kenyan friends are ordered 3 beers each round, smirnoff ice or a bottle of wine, the malaya pays for everything. Yes LH, these girls enjoy life to the fullest!

At least these girls do not use their money to put innocent people in jail as I wrote earlier on this forum, these malayas are good hearted and off course well respected by mail friends.

You can not judge me because I accept gifts and drinks which they have worked for. You decide 'sponsor' a malaya, thats between you and her, she decides to spend her money on me, that's between her and me.

Live and let live, Kenya is to fuck or being fucked.

CheersWell, we should be in admiration of all these rich malayas spending money on you. While it doesn't seem like it is the needy malayas parting with their shillings on your behalf.

It would be interesting to see you in action down in Casuarina or which ever
establishment you work your stuff.

LustyHombre
09-09-10, 05:23
LH,

I can not remember I have ever called you any names or personal attacked you. Having said that, to think you are supporting extend families is utterly blindness. I do not demand or force anything from any girl, they offer me dinners and nights out, out of free will, and because they can afford to do so, in return they hope to get sex, sometimes I give them what they wand.

You are calling me mean, but hey, it is how it works with all Kenyan guys, wake up! The more malayas falling in love with you, giving you presents, drinks, dinners the higher your status. In one case I know a Toyota Rav4 was offered to a (kenyan) boyfriend from mzungu money.

You expect these ladies only to fuck and being paid only, why do malayas not have the same rights you guys do? They also pay for their sexual needs. In bars these girls go out with 30. 000 shilling, all Kenyan friends are ordered 3 beers each round, smirnoff ice or a bottle of wine, the malaya pays for everything. Yes LH, these girls enjoy life to the fullest!

At least these girls do not use their money to put innocent people in jail as I wrote earlier on this forum, these malayas are good hearted and off course well respected by mail friends.

You can not judge me because I accept gifts and drinks which they have worked for. You decide 'sponsor' a malaya, thats between you and her, she decides to spend her money on me, that's between her and me.

Live and let live, Kenya is to fuck or being fucked.

CheersFirst off: I had no intention of personally insulting you. If you feel offended being called a mean spirited guy, I take it then that, in reality, you are a real good hearted and well-meaning guy whose feelings got hurt. I offer you my apologies.

Secondly: Thank you for switching on my lightbulb!

It took a bit long, but then I am using energy savers these days.

Now that we all know where you fit into the food chain, your comments as well as your few prior posts suddenly make a lot of sense. Until now I had thought that you are just another foreign greenhorn monger who camouflages his lack of experience with cynical comments.

Thank you for providing some unique insight into the workings of the Industry from your inside perspective!

Expat Kenya
09-09-10, 13:09
First off: I had no intention of personally insulting you. If you feel offended being called a mean spirited guy, I take it then that, in reality, you are a real good hearted and well-meaning guy whose feelings got hurt. I offer you my apologies.

Secondly: Thank you for switching on my lightbulb!

It took a bit long, but then I am using energy savers these days.

Now that we all know where you fit into the food chain, your comments as well as your few prior posts suddenly make a lot of sense. Until now I had thought that you are just another foreign greenhorn monger who camouflages his lack of experience with cynical comments.

Thank you for providing some unique insight into the workings of the Industry from your inside perspective!I live here for 3 years now. Not in a luxurious compound with fences, between locals. In Kenya you move in groups and it took me 2 years to be fully accepted as one of them. In 2 years I've chewed many kilos of miraa, bought hundreds of beers for friends and so called friends. Locals call it entrance fee for Kenya.

No hard feelings LH, this is what we call mean spirit

1-

My good friend R. From Amsterdam had a relationship with miss X. X lied from day one she was living in a small dirty room and she showed him 'her' place. This was her friend's place, not hers, to use her poor friends room for the scheme she would get 2000 shilling (which X never paid). Are rented her an apartment, bought furniture and opened a saloon. X already had a relationship (read sponsor) also from Amsterdam who provided her a nice apartment and sent money through Western Union (read pocketmoney). She went to Amsterdam for a month at R's place, guess what, they meet her other sponsor in a shopping mall! The other guy thought X was visiting her family up-country. My friend are lived for 2 days after the truth came around. Around the first birthday are and X's baby girl (R's only child) my friend ended his life.

R already had his visa to come to stay in Kenya, however, he was never interested in how thing work in Kenya and he had no local friends.

2-

I overhear 2 malayas talking in a bar, one is flirting with me. In Swahili she tells her malaya friend-

'It is better to have 3 old mzungu's (young ones have less money) because one might find out about your live; one might find out about the other and than you still have one to sponsor you. I went to Germany for 2 months to my sugar daddy. I lied I had lost my ID so that, sponsor number 1 could continue sending money to my brother. After my holiday I got money to start a business, and my bank-account was filled by sponsor number1. Meanwhile she was still flirting with me, not knowing I could hear what she was saying. When I left I greeted the ladies in Swahili which was a bit embarrassing.

After having paid my entrance fees I enjoy the pleasures crossing my path. In the smallest bars around I chew miraa with friends after lunch, have a drink, pick a working girl who never saw casaurina or Bahnhof from inside, we go out and in the end she is happy I pay 2 day salaries which is about kes 500. In my group of fiends some girls have sponsors and when they are around, they pay for everything. Sometimes I fuck them for free on request.

Member #4364
09-09-10, 18:41
Most of the people have not the 20 ksh for a Matatu
in their wallet

Willyboy
09-09-10, 18:57
Most of the people have not the 20 ksh for a Matatu
in their walletExplain, evry matatu is always full.

Expat Kenya
09-09-10, 19:33
Most of the people have not the 20 ksh for a Matatu
in their walletExactly my point.

Most people do not even have kes 20 for a matatu .. true .. and some spent thousands on one malaya. Also rich malaya does not have 20 shilling for the matatu, if a mzungu is around. You won't truly know how much she has at home. Go to Tagged at night and see who is online ... using their laptops.

LustyHombre
09-09-10, 20:52
LH I'm going to propose Nobel Prize for paece.Thanks for your nice choice of words against unknown persons.Thank you for the nomination, WB ! Means a lot to me, especially coming from you.

I am quite impressed that you seem to be able to distinguish between "prize" and "price". That's certainly an accomplishment for somebody whose singular trigger seems to be price and who relies upon Babelfuck for his everyday translation needs, I dare say!

Jbond
09-10-10, 11:27
I live here for 3 years now. Not in a luxurious compound with fences, between locals. In Kenya you move in groups and it took me 2 years to be fully accepted as one of them. In 2 years I've chewed many kilos of miraa, bought hundreds of beers for friends and so called friends. Locals call it entrance fee for Kenya.

No hard feelings LH, this is what we call mean spirit

1-

My good friend R. From Amsterdam had a relationship with miss X. X lied from day one she was living in a small dirty room and she showed him 'her' place. This was her friend's place, not hers, to use her poor friends room for the scheme she would get 2000 shilling (which X never paid). Are rented her an apartment, bought furniture and opened a saloon. X already had a relationship (read sponsor) also from Amsterdam who provided her a nice apartment and sent money through Western Union (read pocketmoney). She went to Amsterdam for a month at R's place, guess what, they meet her other sponsor in a shopping mall! The other guy thought X was visiting her family up-country. My friend are lived for 2 days after the truth came around. Around the first birthday are and X's baby girl (R's only child) my friend ended his life.

R already had his visa to come to stay in Kenya, however, he was never interested in how thing work in Kenya and he had no local friends.

2-

I overhear 2 malayas talking in a bar, one is flirting with me. In Swahili she tells her malaya friend-

'It is better to have 3 old mzungu's (young ones have less money) because one might find out about your live; one might find out about the other and than you still have one to sponsor you. I went to Germany for 2 months to my sugar daddy. I lied I had lost my ID so that, sponsor number 1 could continue sending money to my brother. After my holiday I got money to start a business, and my bank-account was filled by sponsor number1. Meanwhile she was still flirting with me, not knowing I could hear what she was saying. When I left I greeted the ladies in Swahili which was a bit embarrassing.

After having paid my entrance fees I enjoy the pleasures crossing my path. In the smallest bars around I chew miraa with friends after lunch, have a drink, pick a working girl who never saw casaurina or Bahnhof from inside, we go out and in the end she is happy I pay 2 day salaries which is about kes 500. In my group of fiends some girls have sponsors and when they are around, they pay for everything. Sometimes I fuck them for free on request.Agreed, you are always going to be more successful with the malayas if you make an effort and immerse yourself in the country, culture and local people.

However, being realistic why are you all in Kenya apart from the fact it is a beautiful country? The answer is quality of life is so much better and a hot malaya is cheaper to run in Kenya than in our crazy western world.

At the moment, in the newspapers back home a girl from a rich, well off family, very good private education decided to be a working girl instead of qualifying as a lawyer.

The reason, she has enough footballers as sponsors, to name and play a couple of teams of her own on a Saturday match day. Each one of these premier league footballers pay her the equivalent of 150, 000 kes to be with her for the night. This is how crazy it has become back home!

Willyboy
09-10-10, 13:33
Exactly my point.

Most people do not even have kes 20 for a matatu. True. And some spent thousands on one malaya. Also rich malaya does not have 20 shilling for the matatu, if a mzungu is around. You won't truly know how much she has at home. Go to Tagged at night and see who is online. Using their laptops.Go to entrance from nakumtt, look to the cars coming insite. Lot of kenya persons smiling with the small money from mzungus. Look naer kassa insite nakumatt. Black persons pay 10. 000. 20. 000ksk. White one big smile.

96 ministers. 2. 000. 000 ksh salery, 300 persons in parlement 1. 100. 000ksh /month. Yes. This is also Kenya.

Expat Kenya
09-11-10, 00:10
Agreed,you are always going to be more successful with the malayas if you make an effort and immerse yourself in the country,culture and local people.

However,being realistic why are you all in Kenya apart from the fact it is a beautiful country?The answer is quality of life is so much better and a hot malaya is cheaper to run in Kenya than in our crazy western world.

At the moment,in the newspapers back home a girl from a rich,well off family,very good private education decided to be a working girl instead of qualifying as a lawyer.

The reason,she has enough footballers as sponsors,to name and play a couple of teams of her own on a Saturday match day. Each one of these premier league footballers pay her the equivalent of 150,000 kes to be with her for the night.This is how crazy it has become back home!!!True JBond,

Quality of life is so much better and so much more affordable in Kenya, and Kenya is very beautiful indeed, the country and the people!

In general sex is much better in Kenya, also girls are beautiful, and there are some very hot malayas walking around. Someone pays more for sex than me, no problem; it is not something important for me to boast about and somehow logic. I work with respectable people from the very lowest classes and I've seen real poverty from a close.

You hit the nail on the head JBond because there is no lack of educated people here, there is no lacks of any money if social security and if tax money was regulated through a corruption free Government like in developed countries. There is a lack of job opportunities after university, thousands of students graduate each year ending up doing jobs far below their capacities and yes, full time sex industry pays much better!

Kenyans are very creative to survive AND earn money, lots of money if they see a chance, out of any (western) imaginable balance comparing partying malayas and a working girl 6 days per week, around the clock. There are no boundaries and restrictions here.

Statements stating thet paying well (too much) money to greedy malaya helps extend communities/families in reality can be very much disappointing if you'd know their income and true lifestyles, lifestyles we have helped creating. Malayas are not a reliable filter to support Kenya. It also attracts illiterate poor families to sacrifice their children to become involved in paedophilia; it ruins individual young women's lives because they drop out of school very early, depending ONLY on selling sex.

Minimum wage in Kenya is kes 6000 per month, some have lass others don't have a job. 6000 does not help to pay bills, it is too little these days with costs of life rising fast; you have to be inventive to get those paid besides one job, there will always be malayas, students and working girls which practice sex for money, and there are charity organisations you can support which are a much better filter for your charity money than individual malayas.

For newcomers to Kenya, consider 1500 to 2000 shillings for a day full of company a reasonable guideline, ST 500 to 1000 shilling. Prof malayas are hot, working girls / students are appreciative, they'll even wash your clothes. When you get involved in a relationship, not all Kenyan women are malayas, but take very good care before you get emotionally involved too much too soon, do your investigations. There are cultural and in most probably economical bridges to pass and it won't be an easy path.

I know posts like these may even spoil my future 'benefits' towards girls offering me gifts for sex, though I've lost one very good friend recently who just did not take the time to understand his bad hearted girlfriend's lifestyle.

Be aware and have fun!

Cheers!

Member #4148
09-11-10, 11:40
True JBond,

...though I've lost one very good friend recently who just did not take the time to understand his bad hearted girlfriend's lifestyle.

Be aware and have fun!

Cheers!Hi Expat,

Enjoy your posts.

Are you referring here to AIDS?

Jbond
09-11-10, 13:55
True JBond,

Quality of life is so much better and so much more affordable in Kenya, and Kenya is very beautiful indeed, the country and the people!

In general sex is much better in Kenya, also girls are beautiful, and there are some very hot malayas walking around. Someone pays more for sex than me, no problem; it is not something important for me to boast about and somehow logic. I work with respectable people from the very lowest classes and I've seen real poverty from a close.

You hit the nail on the head JBond because there is no lack of educated people here, there is no lacks of any money if social security and if tax money was regulated through a corruption free Government like in developed countries. There is a lack of job opportunities after university, thousands of students graduate each year ending up doing jobs far below their capacities and yes, full time sex industry pays much better!

Kenyans are very creative to survive AND earn money, lots of money if they see a chance, out of any (western) imaginable balance comparing partying malayas and a working girl 6 days per week, around the clock. There are no boundaries and restrictions here.

Statements stating thet paying well (too much) money to greedy malaya helps extend communities/families in reality can be very much disappointing if you'd know their income and true lifestyles, lifestyles we have helped creating. Malayas are not a reliable filter to support Kenya. It also attracts illiterate poor families to sacrifice their children to become involved in paedophilia; it ruins individual young women's lives because they drop out of school very early, depending ONLY on selling sex.

Minimum wage in Kenya is kes 6000 per month, some have lass others don't have a job. 6000 does not help to pay bills, it is too little these days with costs of life rising fast; you have to be inventive to get those paid besides one job, there will always be malayas, students and working girls which practice sex for money, and there are charity organisations you can support which are a much better filter for your charity money than individual malayas.

For newcomers to Kenya, consider 1500 to 2000 shillings for a day full of company a reasonable guideline, ST 500 to 1000 shilling. Prof malayas are hot, working girls / students are appreciative, they'll even wash your clothes. When you get involved in a relationship, not all Kenyan women are malayas, but take very good care before you get emotionally involved too much too soon, do your investigations. There are cultural and in most probably economical bridges to pass and it won't be an easy path.

I know posts like these may even spoil my future 'benefits' towards girls offering me gifts for sex, though I've lost one very good friend recently who just did not take the time to understand his bad hearted girlfriend's lifestyle.

Be aware and have fun!

Cheers!Thanks for your thoughts much appreciated and I also agree with your pricing policy as far as the Malayas go. I will be putting your words of advice into action hopefully down at Casuarina from the 19th if any of you are free for a beer all the better(to the Nairobi hunters Madhouse from the 14th).Unless anyone has any brighter ideas on location.

I always feel the only difference really from destination to destination is down to how much a malaya will accept before she let's you play hide the sausage with her!!

Expat Kenya
09-12-10, 17:24
Thanks for your thoughts much appreciated and I also agree with your pricing policy as far as the Malayas go. I will be putting your words of advice into action hopefully down at Casuarina from the 19th if any of you are free for a beer all the better(to the Nairobi hunters Madhouse from the 14th).Unless anyone has any brighter ideas on location.

I always feel the only difference really from destination to destination is down to how much a malaya will accept before she let's you play hide the sausage with her!!Prices for malayas are becoming more price aggressive nowadays, too bad. In the past girls did not ask prices but she just waited what was coming her way. Remember, no girl wand to be called Malaya or be a prostitute and likewise can not demand any amount, without admitting they are a prostitute and loose some dignity.

On sites such as tagged prices are around kes 5000 while when you pick up a hotty in a bar it can be around kes 1000. Never agree a price through internet to someone you don’t know, it does not make a good impression of your intentions. In more places there are price agreements between girls, and why should we not do the same?

Starting the conversation about how much money a girl expects can be a big issue. You offer to give out money for a service, that makes you (as low as) malaya in their perspective, you are the one requesting first and if she accepts, she has to admit to you to be a prost. Better ask “what can I do for you later/tomorrow” or “I’d like to give something in the morning, is there anything you need” or “will all these drinks for you and your friends cover me to be a happy man tonight”.

If it is things like clothes she asks or anything you can give money in stead. Gifts/money as token of appreciation will maintain to keep her dignity, likewise make her more reasonable in expectations. Asking how expensive a fuck is makes them feel very low; accordingly they may ask unreasonable high prices to compensate.

A lot depends on how you treat and how you talk to her.
Estimate if what she is asking is reasonable (a tattoo can be kes 6000 for example) if not: “I’ll help you to buy that” or “let me see what I can do for you” see what she does, if she is unreasonable ignore her, there are more girls so start flirting again. She won’t run away from fish which is almost on her hook and with money being in your pocket, you are the one in charge and you can always get back into negotiations.

If she tells you a high price you can also tell her “you are too hot for me to afford, I must have been dreaming I could afford you” something of that sort. She will ask you what you can afford/wish to spend. Malayas are on a cold high competitive marked; price will come down if she likes you. The way you talk to her, keeping her dignity in tact, will definitely make her like you more and her expectations to calm down.


Hi Expat,

Enjoy your posts.

Are you referring here to AIDS?My friend had sold his house, got a visa to stay in Kenya, and spent thousands of euros on his girlfriend and her business over two years. He found out that their babygirl (his only child) may not be his, another sponsor was claiming it was his child, she had several sponsors and Kenyan boyfriend(s?). In their relationship she conned him from day one lying about virtually anything to get more money from his lifesavings. His future expectations and emotional state collapsed, unfortunately he decided to end his life.

Kc Me
09-13-10, 08:32
My friend had sold his house, got a visa to stay in Kenya, and spent thousands of euros on his girlfriend and her business over two years. He found out that their babygirl (his only child) may not be his, another sponsor was claiming it was his child, she had several sponsors and Kenyan boyfriend(s?). In their relationship she conned him from day one lying about virtually anything to get more money from his lifesavings. His future expectations and emotional state collapsed, unfortunately he decided to end his life.Yea, thanks for the reminder. That story is absolutely typical. But I am still in the process of falling for a girl that my head knows cannot be what she claims to be, but logic is being overridden by a dangerous mix of self-delusion and lust!

Slimtower
09-13-10, 18:59
Applause on that report. Wonderful and interesting read. Kenya has been a destination that I've been wanting to go to for a long time. I'll definitely be considering this in the near future.


When I was planning my first visit to Kenya and Mombasa I got a huge amount of information from this forum and two members, Fun And Sun & Noddy, were kind enough to respond to a couple of queries that I posted.

I believe in giving back as well as taking so wanted to post an account of my trip. At the same time I’m aware that most members are more experienced about this venue than I am and it would be presumptuous of me to offer advice so I’ve tried to just include the interesting bits and my opinions. I’ve put a fuller, more informational version on GGC if anyone is also a member on there.

Arriving outside the Kendas Arcade Hotel in Mtwapa was a déjà vu moment, after having viewed the facade on their website so many times, but what did surprise was the rather lacklustre reception arrangements; after all this was midday and the place should have been heaving.

The lack of a wardrobe, fridge, and AC didn’t trouble me, from my research this is the norm for accommodation in this price range (I was quoted 1400KSH for a single with breakfast) and it wasn’t until I was sitting in the adjoining open-air bar later on in the afternoon, enjoying a pot of tea, that the uncomfortable truth dawned, I’d checked into a hotel which was probably designed to cater to the short-time market! A notice over the passageway (Arcade?) leading to the rest of the hotel proudly proclaimed ‘this way to the accommodation and restaurant’, and the reason for the reception being un-(wo)manned during daylight hours suddenly became apparent. Being roused from my slumbers by a couple trying to get into my room with their key in the early hours of the morning did nothing to allay these suspicions. Never mind, I’d paid up front for two nights and I was determined to enjoy the experience.

The evening promised much; apart from the opportunity to visit the Casarina Disco, just a few minutes’ walk up the road, at night the hotel’s first-floor restaurant metamorphs into a VIP lap-dancing club and pole dancers and other entertainers perform in the bar. The bar and disco attracts a large clientele, mostly locals with a smattering of ex-pats and this is the main disadvantage of staying at the Arcade. The rooms are located around a central atrium and this method of construction funnels and amplifies the noise from the downstairs entertainment areas. As the disco continues until dawn this location won’t suit light sleepers.

The next day gave me the opportunity to really explore my surroundings. I suppose Mtwapa must be typical of many small African townships, a chaotic noisy maelstrom of humanity and traffic. The one tarmaced road is the main highway through the town, the rest are sandy tracks, all of these being lined with a jumbled succession of businesses, bars, and stalls. I had expected to be continually hustled but, perhaps because this is not really a tourist zone, I was treated exactly like the few other white ex-pats that were wandering around, that is accepted and ignored. The internet legends of the streets of Mtwapa being paved with women desperate for your stash are sadly untrue. There are lots of working girls wandering around during the day, these being easily distinguishable to a punter, and no doubt could be chatted up, but they are certainly too reserved to approach you. There is a supermarket not too far away for shopping for any necessities and this is a good place to change larger notes for the more useful 100’s and 500’s.

The public beach is a good venue to meet malayas but beyond walking distance, so if staying in Mtwapa one will need to befriend a moto taxi guy, they are parked at many of the busy intersections, however there is nothing to distinguish them from anyone else. Halfway to Bamburi I realised that my man had no wing mirrors, so maybe they don’t have licences or insurance either. The other cheap way to travel is the matatus, or minibus taxis, however these just seemed to go up and down the main road between Mombasa and Malindi so no use for venturing down the side roads. You can, though, get off at the Pirates sign and access the public beach from here.
Whilst strolling along the sands I came across the Bamburi Beach Resort, another venue that I’d studied on my computer screen. In fact after stopping for a drink in the bar and inspecting the rooms, I felt comfortable enough to book up for the following days. The price in August was 4500KHS per night (same price for one or two persons) and I couldn’t negotiate anything off this at all, so three times the price of the Kendas, however the beach location and the separate cottages in the grounds (so no need to parade anybody past reception) swung it for me. Mtwapa is really for ex-pats and on this occasion I was a holiday maker.

On reflection I think I might have been rather harsh in my judgment of the Kendas, it was reasonable value for money as accommodation is very expensive here, and the location in the centre of Mtwapa’s nightlife is superb. In fact, together with the Casarina, it is the nightlife, and there is a great advantage in just going upstairs after an convivial evening, or early morning, rather than having to start negotiations with a taxi driver for the journey home.

I can understand why the Bamburi Resort gets poor reviews on trip advisor as the standard of accommodation is a bit lower than the palaces on either side; however it does proudly proclaim that its room rates are lower than any other beach front location. The manager told me that they will only take reservations for a room but not a particular room; this of course is normal practice but a significant disappointment here, as the cottages are all individually located within the grounds as well as offering a choice of upstairs or ground floor accommodation. In fact the rustic dilapidation suited me perfectly, I am not a lover of identikit hotels, the only caveat I make is that, as I am not a gregarious person, I would have preferred a private veranda. There is no TV or room safe so you will need to sort out your own nighttime entertainment and ensure that you draw out enough funds to pay for this during office hours. However I am most disappointed to have to mention that, in all my years of travelling in various countries, this is the only venue where I have had anything stolen from my room. Actually it was quite a clever scam as, when a monkey suddenly appeared on my veranda rail, and just like any normal tourist would, I grabbed my camera and crept out, hoping not to frighten it away. In fact it just disdainfully ignored me until the photo was taken but, when I turned around, I found that its mate had taken the opportunity to filch a packet of biscuits from inside my room; the whole tribe then sat in the rafters and shared them out.

The place makes truly excellent lodgings for punters though this fact isn’t mentioned on their website. There is no reception as such, only an office which keeps normal office hours, guests are therefore expected to keep their room keys with them and so the only walk of shame at nighttimes is past the askari. These security men perform a vital function in keeping out unattached ladies and as there is a beach entrance and a road entrance it is quite possible to run multiple partners with no danger of inadvertent clashes. However it seems that the tales on the internet of girls flocking around here in the evening are also urban myths as, once darkness falls, the beach becomes deserted apart from a few tourists. One of the girls I that I chatted to told me that the police would round up stray unaccompanied girls and levy a ‘fine’, “Surely it’s ok after dark though?” I worriedly enquired, “No, the police then walk along in plain clothes” was the reply. The only place where this rule is not enforced is the public beach next to Pirates. How long this clampdown has been in force I don’t know, nor do I know if it is likely to be permanent, but I do seem fated to arrive at venues just after the good times have come to an end.

During my visit the new Kenyan constitution was proclaimed, an occasion for much rejoicing and allowing a national holiday to be declared and I took this opportunity to explore Mtwapa’s nightlife. There are several local bar/discos but the only names that I can remember are ‘The Bahnhof’ and ‘Palm Resort’as well as the (in)famous Casarina but my advice is to head straight for the latter. This is the only one to charge admission and so tends to be more exclusive. I found the other places to be packed to the extent of the girls being considerably outnumbered by the local lads, (obviously this disproportion may not be so apparent on normal days) whilst the Casarina was packed with girls (who are allowed in free) with the only local competitors those who could afford the entrance fee. The odds are therefore well stacked in the mzungas favour, furthermore the girls who come here are actively seeking a date with us, which may not necessarily be the case in the local bars.

Any mongering holiday sinks or swims on the quality of the girls and by this definition my trip was a resounding success. It could be argued that my two ‘wives’ and an afternoon ST hardly constitutes a representative sample but I did chat to many more girls, and the adjective that continually came to mind was sweet. Maybe it’s the African tradition of subservience to one’s menfolk, maybe its respect for an elder fatherly figure, or maybe it’s just about the money after all. Whatever the reason, the girls are desperate to capture a trophy muzunga, proud to be seen at his side, and anxious to hold on to him. They went along with whatever was wanted, ST or LT, but their choice was LT and well into the next day (and the next day and the next day!) The concept of doing a runner, or getting the early hour’s phone call, or having to go home to the baby, is happily still an alien concept here. It would have been impossible for me to penny pinch in the face of such real poverty so I paid the ISG suggested rates of 1000/2000KSH for ST/LT but I am 99% certain that even if I’d only paid either of my girls for a ST at night, she would have still automatically stayed till morning; apart from anything else, for a girl to travel home alone in the early hours would be inviting robbery of her earnings.

I won’t go into great detail on here about the girls performance, suffice to say I was literally overwhelmed by the porn-star performance both of the LT’s gave, beyond anything I’ve yet experienced.

I suppose it is inevitable to draw comparisons with Thailand as I have spent so much time there. It is said that a punter will always be drawn to the country where he first experienced his awakening, so to speak, so I guess I will always prefer my coffee milky rather than black and, to be honest, I prefer the reserved demeanor of the Thais rather than the in-your-face friendliness of the Africans. However the uninhibited enthusiastic attitude of my African Queens towards lovemaking was beyond comparison, I can now see the reasoning behind the saying ‘once you’ve had black you’ll never go back’. By lucky coincidence I live literally just across the North Sea from Schipol so, given a good connection, the door to door journey could be as little as twelve hours. Add to this the lack of jet lag, and Mombasa could easily be a destination for a long weekend and the idea of a holiday home somewhere on the coast doesn’t seem quite so fanciful after all.

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Lantern1
09-14-10, 06:04
Yea, thanks for the reminder. That story is absolutely typical. But I am still in the process of falling for a girl that my head knows cannot be what she claims to be, but logic is being overridden by a dangerous mix of self-delusion and lust!My Friends, I have to admit that I am also in the process of tying things up where I live and move to Kenya. KC Me, I saw in an earlier post that you were interested in a lady from Eastleigh. Me too. We have been together for almost a year now and all seems to be fine. Being far away for long times makes the doubts come back every now and then though. If I make a mistake here, life will also be very short for me. Make very, very sure. Logic does not seem to play a very big part in these matters does it?!

LustyHombre
09-15-10, 06:58
My Friends, I have to admit that I am also in the process of tying things up where I live and move to Kenya. KC Me, I saw in an earlier post that you were interested in a lady from Eastleigh. Me too. We have been together for almost a year now and all seems to be fine. Being far away for long times makes the doubts come back every now and then though. If I make a mistake here, life will also be very short for me. Make very, very sure. Logic does not seem to play a very big part in these matters does it?!Even though I have never fallen in love with a WG, I have known a few who would be deserving and are likely to make wonderful wives (never mind their bedroom skills) if given the chance by a courageous guy, because they are genuinely looking for a normal life and have the smarts and (mostly negative) life experiences to be up to the task.

It is surely a very long shot for most, but miracles do happen every now and then, and if both parties understand the odds and are dead serious about their relationship, they should stand a pretty decent chance, I would hope.

I wish you both the best of luck!

Expat Kenya
09-16-10, 12:44
Even though I have never fallen in love with a WG, I have known a few who would be deserving and are likely to make wonderful wives (never mind their bedroom skills) if given the chance by a courageous guy, because they are genuinely looking for a normal life and have the smarts and (mostly negative) life experiences to be up to the task.

It is surely a very long shot for most, but miracles do happen every now and then, and if both parties understand the odds and are dead serious about their relationship, they should stand a pretty decent chance, I would hope.

I wish you both the best of luck!I agree Lusty, I even dare to say most girls would be happy to lead a normal life with some future perspectives. The danger is that most of these girls never experienced a normal life being raised in unstable families, got addicted to life full of sex, alcohol, fancy material assets and simply because they have no example of how a decent life looks like, how much they'd wand to, mentally they simply can't.

A doubtful friend tested his girlfriend by saying he was going abroad. He booked a return flight Mombasa-Nairobi instead. The next morning he opened his apartment and found her .. with her Kenyan boyfriend in his bed.

Nothing is impossible, but do your investigations before you get too emotionally involved. I also know a few who have become wonderful wives, some live here with their husband and children, some have gone abroad.

Kc Me & Lantern1, I wish you much wisdom and the best of luck.

Lantern1
09-16-10, 15:24
Even though I have never fallen in love with a WG, I have known a few who would be deserving and are likely to make wonderful wives (never mind their bedroom skills) if given the chance by a courageous guy, because they are genuinely looking for a normal life and have the smarts and (mostly negative) life experiences to be up to the task.

It is surely a very long shot for most, but miracles do happen every now and then, and if both parties understand the odds and are dead serious about their relationship, they should stand a pretty decent chance, I would hope.

I wish you both the best of luck!Well Lusty, I am sure going to try. I think what worked for me with this lady was that I realy tried to listen to her and tried to understand. Actualy, I think for her to trust me with her past and secrets was more difficult than me trusting her. I hope this is one of those miracles that you spoke about. She deserves a good future, as I am sure thousands of these ladies hope and pray for. And if there is love involved so much the better.

Expat Kenya
09-16-10, 22:27
Well Lusty, I am sure going to try. I think what worked for me with this lady was that I realy tried to listen to her and tried to understand. Actualy, I think for her to trust me with her past and secrets was more difficult than me trusting her. I hope this is one of those miracles that you spoke about. She deserves a good future, as I am sure thousands of these ladies hope and pray for. And if there is love involved so much the better.Latern1, a quick diagnose, no offence.

You are posting (a quite sensitive post) on a sex-forum about your serious relationship, what is the connection? Sex is quite a common hobby in Kenya, to get a job, to pay school-fees, to go abroad, to get out of jail, to show off, or just for fun. Sex is not necessary connected to intimacy meant for your partner only. Kenyan men introduce their sisters to mzungu. While it is their girlfriend. When money is involved sex is hakuna matata.

Girls in sex-trade can tell you any story, compassion combined with passion guarantees weak hearted mzungus to open their heart. And wallet! I can write a book about made-up heart breaking stories:

Abandoned with a child (which passed away) from a married mzungu.

Husband stolen by another woman and left with sick children to take care of.

Some stories are true, most are copied to lure mzungu into a compassionate relationship whereby your wallet is the main goal.

What I've noticed is that for most Kenyans it is important to talk about being a good husband/wife, future plans together, spending time together, cultural differences, dowry negotiations, meeting the family, her family meets your family before she goes abroad or visa versa, she sees your home-place before you settle in Kenya. The bond between a mother in law and a Kenyan girl is as much important (if not more important) as between you and her. Her past life is of no importance at all, you accept her, or you do not accept her, it's that simple.

For mzungus faithfulness is very important, being romantic, honest, straight forward, etc. Look at the differences, discuss them, agree on them, check if she keeps her end of the deal. If not, you can discuss with her dad or elder brother to put her back on the right track. Do not assume anything, discuss, check up, and realise she will always have different priorities.

Good luck!

Hesekiels
09-18-10, 15:16
My friend had sold his house, got a visa to stay in Kenya, and spent thousands of euros on his girlfriend and her business over two years. He found out that their babygirl (his only child) may not be his, another sponsor was claiming it was his child, she had several sponsors and Kenyan boyfriend(s?). In their relationship she conned him from day one lying about virtually anything to get more money from his lifesavings. His future expectations and emotional state collapsed, unfortunately he decided to end his life.


Holy Moses, suicide because of that? Too sad indeed!

BTW, the moral of the story is?

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Expat Kenya
09-19-10, 06:42
Holy Moses, suicide because of that? Too sad indeed!

BTW, the moral of the story is?

Cheers!

HesekielsMoral is, always be careful. Do not get emotionally involved too fast too soon when you want a hotty for yourself. People are different, especially here in Kenya. It does not just take money or 10 goats to buy a wife. Take time to understand their cultural background, family structures, personal history, and lifestyle. Discuss the (cultural) differences and both your expectations. It will help you prevent getting very disappointed.

Tonkazan
09-20-10, 22:05
Girls in sex-trade can tell you any story, compassion combined with passion guarantees weak hearted mzungus to open their heart. And wallet! I can write a book about made-up heart breaking stories:

Abandoned with a child (which passed away) from a married mzungu.

Husband stolen by another woman and left with sick children to take care of.

Some stories are true, most are copied to lure mzungu into a compassionate relationship whereby your wallet is the main goal.

Good luck!

Thank you brother, for pointing out what should be obvious to mongers, but unfortunately, it is not. Girls in sex trade are in it to make money. Period! To this end, they will tell you anything. If they find you have a soft spot, they will create a sob story that will break your heart. That some guy actually took his life because of one of these girls is enough proof of just how devious they can be.

I am a local, and by local I don't mean an expatriate working in Kenya, but an African Kenyan. Being a regular monger, I interact a lot with these girls, and the stories that I hear them talking among themselves are out of this world. I am often left in shock, wondering how Mzungu mongers allow themselves to be conned by the girls. While you may, with luck, find a nice girl who is genuine and honest, it would be wise to always take what you are told with a pinch of salt. If you jump in with your heart, you will end up as just another statistic, a victim of an elaborate con job. If you dont believe me, just take a walk around Mtwapa, in the area between the shopping centre and the beach. Most of the luxury mansions you see are owned by malayas, built by mzungus who fell for some sob stories.

LustyHombre
09-22-10, 05:43
Thank you brother, for pointing out what should be obvious to mongers, but unfortunately, it is not. Girls in sex trade are in it to make money. Period! To this end, they will tell you anything. If they find you have a soft spot, they will create a sob story that will break your heart. That some guy actually took his life because of one of these girls is enough proof of just how devious they can be.

I am a local, and by local I don't mean an expatriate working in Kenya, but an African Kenyan. Being a regular monger, I interact a lot with these girls, and the stories that I hear them talking among themselves are out of this world. I am often left in shock, wondering how Mzungu mongers allow themselves to be conned by the girls. While you may, with luck, find a nice girl who is genuine and honest, it would be wise to always take what you are told with a pinch of salt. If you jump in with your heart, you will end up as just another statistic, a victim of an elaborate con job. If you dont believe me, just take a walk around Mtwapa, in the area between the shopping centre and the beach. Most of the luxury mansions you see are owned by malayas, built by mzungus who fell for some sob stories.I fully support what Tonkazan says: Don't be naiive! In my over 2 years here I've had maybe 30 three- or more 'peaters and I look like an obvious mark (over 50, friendly, smartly dressed, more than 1 car). Only one (1) of them has NEVER asked for anything over and above. All the others, after the 2nd time or so, either needed at least a new phone (with camera and internet, please) or a "loan" to open a hair salon or a clothing store or a chicken farm. Or they got their passport stolen and need to bribe whoever 10, 000 to get a replacement ID etc. Or their mom has a brain tumor and she needs help to pay the hospital etc. Given the general state of unmet human needs, I am sure some of the emergencies are genuine, but you don't want to get involved deep enough to find out. That's why I am always firm: it's a Fee-for-Service arrangement and nothing more!

Your comments about Mtwapa intrigue me though: I know the area from Kendas to La Marina and beyond fairly well and have friends who live overlooking the creek as well as near "Monsoons" (the houses are mostly worn out but the location and the vista is worth a mio$ or more). Where is the shopping center and the beach and the mansions you are referring to?

Billy Baht
09-22-10, 05:45
Thank you brother, for pointing out what should be obvious to mongers, but unfortunately, it is not. Girls in sex trade are in it to make money. Period! To this end, they will tell you anything. If they find you have a soft spot, they will create a sob story that will break your heart. That some guy actually took his life because of one of these girls is enough proof of just how devious they can be.

I am a local, and by local I don't mean an expatriate working in Kenya, but an African Kenyan. Being a regular monger, I interact a lot with these girls, and the stories that I hear them talking among themselves are out of this world. I am often left in shock, wondering how Mzungu mongers allow themselves to be conned by the girls. While you may, with luck, find a nice girl who is genuine and honest, it would be wise to always take what you are told with a pinch of salt. If you jump in with your heart, you will end up as just another statistic, a victim of an elaborate con job. If you dont believe me, just take a walk around Mtwapa, in the area between the shopping centre and the beach. Most of the luxury mansions you see are owned by malayas, built by mzungus who fell for some sob stories.

Thailand is the same, Philippines is the same. I can't believe the amount of Ho worship I see. And yes, women that sell their pussy are Hos.

Sure, its wise to be a gentleman and treat the girls decently, but marry one? Support her when you are back home slaving away to earn money for your next trip? Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :D

LustyHombre
09-22-10, 18:21
I am a local, and by local I don't mean an expatriate working in Kenya, but an African Kenyan. Being a regular monger, I interact a lot with these girls, and the stories that I hear them talking among themselves are out of this world. I am often left in shock, wondering how Mzungu mongers allow themselves to be conned by the girls.I think we have to allow for some latitude here:

1) how likely is it that girls who invent tear jerking tales to con some dough out of a mzungu, are equally loose with the truth when they boast about their exploits toward other malayas?

I believe that male fishermen are not the only ones prone to exaggerate.

2) how likely is it that they are a bit more circumspect within earshot of an African male (after all, they don't know whether you are an undercover CID or their competitor's pimp or whatever)? My swahili is rather limited (but I get by pretty well with my 600 or so basic words, never mind the grammar) and from what little I can understand, they are VERY competitive with each other. Whenever 2 or 3 of them get together over a Tusker Malt, I can overhear them scanning the prospects and figuring out for how much they can take me for.

They usually "assign" me to the highest bidder who then approaches me and usually ends up wondering why she gets turned down.

Hesekiels
10-03-10, 11:43
Moral is, always be careful. Do not get emotionally involved too fast too soon when you want a hotty for yourself. People are different, especially here in Kenya. It does not just take money or 10 goats to buy a wife. Take time to understand their cultural background, family structures, personal history, and lifestyle. Discuss the (cultural) differences and both your expectations. It will help you prevent getting very disappointed.

I could not agree more, brother! :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

LustyHombre
10-03-10, 20:16
the wife and 2 of her friends left for paris and milano for some recreational shopping, which made it possible for me to accept an invitation for a batchelor golf weekend in diani.

we were 4 of us, no. 2 in exactly the same situation as i (as his wife went together with mine. how devious!) the 3rd is a friend of no. 2 visiting from argentina and no. 4 was the host (lives in diani for 3-4 mos every year, just divorced for the umpeenth time, has a nice fully catered villa 2nd row from the beach, with pool and an outdoor kitchen, and knows everybody who is somebody in the expat community).

we were there for 3 days and played a few rounds (but there is only 1 course nearby. and it's a rather poor excuse for golfing) but the extra-curricular activities were quite spectacular!

our host had arranged for a bevy of talent which made all of us just drool: most of the girls said they were visiting from nbo, but there were at least 2 from uganda and one from congo (drc) and one from kigali, rwa. they were all model quality in looks, and surprise, surprise most of them were pse in the sack (very rare; my normal experience is: the better they look the poorer they perform!) we rotated them all multiple times and were all fully exhausted by the time we left this morning.

i was given quite a few phone #'s and wouldn't be surprised if they were still around when i get back to diani mid next week.

thanks asv!

Cunning Stunt
10-04-10, 12:15
Here are a few belated notes on a recent trip to Mombasa which may be of some use to somebody. I received much useful information from reading the threads and for this, together with advice and assistance from expert members here, I am enormously grateful.

Spent the first night in Mombasa Town which is an interesting place. Visited the fort and was stoned by muslim kids in the old town! Watch your step around here. The muslim influence is strong in Mombasa and most of the cafes and restaurants do not serve alcohol. Stayed at the Sapphire which I would not recommend as the rooms are tired looking and rather decrepit for the price asked.

As I had made no advance booking, the next day it was choice between taking pot luck at Bamburi Beach or heading to Mtwapa. I am pleased that I chose the latter option. Now Mtwapa may at first appear to be a another dusty, one street Kenyan town but appearances can be deceptive and I quickly spotted the number of babes strolling about. I asked one long legged dusky beauty if she could give me directions to Kendas Guest House and she not only complied but also offered to join me there! Wow. But I had to sadly decline until I found my feet but I did take her number.

Checked in at Kendas but was totally underwhelmed by the poky room and so immedietly decided to stay for only the one night and look for something better and quieter (the rooms are almost directly over the bar which plays music at max volume from about 6pm until sparrows fart) for the remainder of my stay.

So I went out and scouted a few apartment blocks and decided on the nearly new Luck. Run by an affable Italian called Aldo, ably assited by his efficient, helpful Kenyan manager Joshua, it fitted my requirement perfectly. They offered spacious apartments at 2000 KES a night. They were much the best I saw so quickly arranged to move in the next day.

What can I say about Mtwapa? Only a few minutes from Bamburi, you are at the source of the Nile as far as girls are concerned in that most of the pussy that you see at the clubs/discos out at the beaches live in town. So there are plenty of off-duty malayas strutting their stuff around. It has its own club at Casurinas but unless you are a late night disco’y sort of person, which I am not, it is hardly necessary. All you have to do, if you see a girl(s) you fancy, is to say ‘Jambo, going anywhere nice’ (or similar [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor introductory chat-up lines) and 9 times out of 10, she is yours for as long as you want her. Same system applies out at the beach. [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) easy. I also got the impression that many of the regular girls (waitresses etc) were similarly available if you should be so interested but that scene is really for the longer staying members.

So I didn’t go short and enjoyed the company of a variety of ebony lovelies varying in type from a tight little spinner to a memorable, impressive big assed amazon who was taller and heavier than me (I’m 6 foot) and who I wouldn’t have wanted to pick a fight with in a bar, but who turned out to be as sweet as honey and a great lay. African girls are very enthusiastic and energetic in bed and if I was to offer one criticism, it would be that they are a little bit too clingy and hard to get rid of when you want to move on.

Here's a few points to ponder.


1. White girls are apparently available. I was approached by 2 quite nice looking ladies on the street in Mtwapa but was so taken aback, that I just said hello and walked on by but by the way they were dressed and acted, I got the definite impression that they were looking for business. Hardly necessary with so much delicious local pussy about but it would be interesting to know where they come from and what they ask?

2. Was amazed by the number of fugly, fat, old white women about, being escorted by good looking young Kenyan men. Is this a top destination for mongeresses? Maybe there is a female version of ISG where they show off disgusting holiday snaps of their conquests.

3. Nairobi sure is a one dirty big, polluted, traffic congested, dangerous shit hole that makes Manila seem like Milton Keynes. Glad that I only had to endure the place for one night.

Here are a few photos of the apartment I stayed in. Hope that you can make out the kitchen around the big ass babe! Can you spot my favourite who had the best, gravity defying knockers that I have seen on a girl in a looo..ng time and with whom I hung (pun intended) for several days. I seriously considered parceling her up and sending her home. Tits men in Kenya must think that they have died and gone to heaven!

Photos in the photo gallery at http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1076515&postcount=225.

Bajoe2011
10-04-10, 22:22
Like to say a few words about your report.

It is 100% objective and clean and very pleasent to read.

I got the feeling that I was already in Kenya reading your report.

The girls you scored all of them gets 10 points from me to you.

Which town/place did you score them. I hope to see them too.

Men I've never been there but I'm going to feel this soon.

Hope to see more of your post on this form.

Member #4364
10-05-10, 18:32
Sorry Cunning; after so many years in Kenya; the white girls only want to have the african dick.

Right; the old town in Mombasa can be dangerous; mostly I had no problems; one time a bit concerned.

Willyboy
10-05-10, 19:59
Mombasa is again unsafe. Willyboy was booking his tiket for Sunday. Very high prices 625 euro. Brussels to Mombasa.

Hesekiels
10-05-10, 21:37
... Nairobi sure is a one dirty big, polluted, traffic congested, dangerous shit hole that makes Manila seem like Milton Keynes.


Come on, brother! Nairobi is not that bad! :) Otherwise a great post!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Cunning Stunt
10-11-10, 12:52
Come on, brother! Nairobi is not that bad! :)

Parts that I saw were pretty nasty. But I did arrive during evening rush hour and as I was staying just one night and flying out the next morning, booked into a River Road hotel.

Wouldn't advise a late evening stroll around that locale!

Guess that like any pox encrusted, old wh@re, it is bound to have its nice bits but cannot say that I saw them!


Sorry Cunning; after so many years in Kenya; the white girls only want to have the african dick.


Yeah, but these girls were pros 'on the game'.


Like to say a few words about your report.

It is 100% objective and clean and very pleasent to read.

I got the feeling that I was already in Kenya reading your report.

The girls you scored all of them gets 10 points from me to you.

Which town/place did you score them. I hope to see them too.

Men I've never been there but I'm going to feel this soon.

Hope to see more of your post on this form.

Thanks mate! Never been called 'clean' before..lol.

All girls either Mtwapa or daytime on the beach.

Ze Gato
10-11-10, 18:51
Parts that I saw were pretty nasty. But I did arrive during evening rush hour and as I was staying just one night and flying out the next morning, booked into a River Road hotel.

Wouldn't advise a late evening stroll around that locale!

Guess that like any pox encrusted, old wh@re, it is bound to have its nice bits but cannot say that I saw them!



Yeah, but these girls were pros 'on the game'.



Thanks mate! Never been called 'clean' before..lol.

All girls either Mtwapa or daytime on the beach.
Having been to over 40 countries, I think Nairobi is pretty cool. You stayed in a bad area, ...that i wouldn't recomend. The traffic is bad and it has gotten worse, at most hours, but they are doing a lot of major construction to ease on the traffic gridlock. The trick is to walk, but be carefull. Next time stay in down town around Hilton area or west land. Also, one night is not enough to judge...

LustyHombre
10-11-10, 19:59
Parts that I saw were pretty nasty. But I did arrive during evening rush hour and as I was staying just one night and flying out the next morning, booked into a River Road hotel.

Wouldn't advise a late evening stroll around that locale!I wonder what or who made you pick a River Road hotel in NBO. Or the Sapphire in MBA for that matter. Off-the-wall and I'll-informed choices in both towns.

Anyhow, I am glad to see that you found your bearings once you got to Mtwapa!

Thanks for the report and the pics!

Cunning Stunt
10-12-10, 10:22
I wonder what or who made you pick a River Road hotel in NBO. Or the Sapphire in MBA for that matter. Off-the-wall and I'll-informed choices in both towns.


[CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor planning & preparation! I had been on the road a few weeks and omitted to pre-book hotels in Kenya. So I took a taxi drivers recommendation (bad idea I know) on reaching Mombasa and Lonely Planets advice (even worse?) on hitting Nairobi. I was knackered on getting off the Mombasa bus and did not want to go hunting for a hotel so walked 100 meters to the Holiday Home Hotel which actually wasn’t that bad. But the area is pure African big city and interesting but dangerous.

I had a few beers in the large pub next door which was an interesting experience as mine was the only white face in dozens. Then a meal in the hotel bar/restaurant which was full of some quite acceptable looking local ho’s. Didn’t dip my wick though, although I got plenty of ‘come fuck me’ looks!

Mjuaji2003
10-14-10, 02:22
Nairobi sure is a one dirty big, polluted, traffic congested, dangerous shit hole that makes Manila seem like Milton Keynes. Glad that I only had to endure the place for one night.Many European cities are very clean, very safe, very boring, very expensive, and with excellent public transport.

LustyHombre
10-14-10, 19:51
Many European cities are very clean, very safe, very boring, very expensive, and with excellent public transport.With other words : You usually get what you pay for !

I guess that most of us Kenya mongers tolerate the filth by the side of the roads and the chaotic traffic etc. because Kenya pussy is of excellent quality, very willing, cheap and plentiful, compared to most any other country I have ever been to.

Hesekiels
10-15-10, 18:23
... Kenya pussy is of excellent quality, very willing, cheap and plentiful, compared to most any other country I have ever been to.


Good summary, indeed! I second that!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Bide59
10-18-10, 12:29
Dear fellow mongers,

On my next trip to Nairobi I would like to stop by in Mombasa for a week for some fun and new experience. Can anyone recommend an apartment (bed and living room) clean and QUITE, close to some action, restaurants and the beach? Searched the internet but could not find anything to bet on. Would appreciate any help in this matter. It does not have to be Mombasa but can also be a town/city close to it, but with willing girls around.

Thanks for your help, Bide59

LustyHombre
10-18-10, 16:54
This afternoon, I met one of my recently "discarded" GF's in a coffee shop in town, purely by chance. Surprisingly, she was very unfriendly toward me (I have always taken great care to end all my temp. Relationships on a friendly note and with a min. Amount of hurt feelings) and when I asked her "what is wrong? " she blurted out that I had kind of mortally embarrassed her by passing her cell # to some obnoxious stranger on the internet.

I checked my PM's and noted that I did indeed recommend her to 3 fellow ISG members recently. I did that bcs she's a nice girl and I genuinely want to help her.

According to her, this guy was as blunt as a sledge hammer when he phoned her saying something like " My name is (she forgot) and I stay at the Kahama for a week and my friend xxxxx (that's me) recommends you to me as an insatiable BBFS 3hole girl. How soon can you get here and how much do you charge if I see you more than 1 time? "

Guys, how hard is it to understand that these girls have feelings like any other human being and, even if they are hard core malayas (which they will all dispute to be, anyhow) they deserve to be treated with the same respect and common courtesy you show toward civilians!

It is ok to say "so-and-so gave me your # and recommends you highly" BUT don't embarrass her by trying to get the menu and pricing verified over the phone!

That's an ok procedure if you deal with a European or American escort who advertises on the internet, but definitely not here!

Member #4364
10-18-10, 18:56
Stay one night at Kendash Hotel and ask; you ve to ve a look by
yourself about the standard; one time i had a recommended
one........i was pissed

LustyHombre
10-19-10, 03:57
Dear fellow mongers,

On my next trip to Nairobi I would like to stop by in Mombasa for a week for some fun and new experience. Can anyone recommend an apartment (bed and living room) clean and QUITE, close to some action, restaurants and the beach? Searched the internet but could not find anything to bet on. Would appreciate any help in this matter. It does not have to be Mombasa but can also be a town/city close to it, but with willing girls around.

Thanks for your help, Bide59No need to google anything !

Just go back in the Mombasa section a bit and read the recnt reports by Stunning **** and especially by the Mtwapa ex[ert John Palmer .

Bide59
10-19-10, 11:23
No need to google anything!

Just go back in the Mombasa section a bit and read the recnt reports by Stunning **** and especially by the Mtwapa ex[ert John Palmer .I did that now, thanks. Seems like there are a few apartments available, whereas you recommended a newcomer to Mombasa to check in at Kahama hotel.

I'll do some more research and see what I will come up with.

Willyboy
10-19-10, 14:09
Last weeck in Mombasa. I did booking bifore my trip for 3 nights end thinking. I make longer during my visit. But, I must out after my 3 nights. Plaese, if you will stay in kahama, pay bifore your staying. All your days or thake risk that kahama keep you out (like my)

Good place to stay is GLORY VILLA (new renovation last jaer) Prices around 4000ksh. I did room control, it look good. Glory villa is after nakumatt supermarket.

About girls. PLAESE new visiters. One girl told my that one man from France was paying her 9000ksh for 1h sex (in lotus hotel in town) Plaese FRECH FISH. Wek-up en now prices from girls bifore you going to room for sex.

Willyboy
10-19-10, 14:44
This afternoon, I met one of my recently "discarded" GF's in a coffee shop in town, purely by chance. Surprisingly, she was very unfriendly toward me (I have always taken great care to end all my temp. Relationships on a friendly note and with a min. Amount of hurt feelings) and when I asked her "what is wrong? " she blurted out that I had kind of mortally embarrassed her by passing her cell # to some obnoxious stranger on the internet.

I checked my PM's and noted that I did indeed recommend her to 3 fellow ISG members recently. I did that bcs she's a nice girl and I genuinely want to help her.

According to her, this guy was as blunt as a sledge hammer when he phoned her saying something like " My name is (she forgot) and I stay at the Kahama for a week and my friend xxxxx (that's me) recommends you to me as an insatiable BBFS 3hole girl. How soon can you get here and how much do you charge if I see you more than 1 time? "

Guys, how hard is it to understand that these girls have feelings like any other human being and, even if they are hard core malayas (which they will all dispute to be, anyhow) they deserve to be treated with the same respect and common courtesy you show toward civilians!

It is ok to say "so-and-so gave me your # and recommends you highly" BUT don't embarrass her by trying to get the menu and pricing verified over the phone!

That's an ok procedure if you deal with a European or American escort who advertises on the internet, but definitely not here!Kenya girls finding love end emotions with black mans (without money)

Kenya girls like mzungu for money. If you not andestanding this. O MY GOD

If you want discus this with my. Send mail. I will try to explain in my bad english.

Fennec
10-19-10, 17:16
Mombasa is again unsafe. Willyboy was booking his tiket for Sunday. Very high prices 625 euro. Brussels to Mombasa.Airlines are all expensive from germany to Mombasa during hollidays. Next time Willy may try Ethiopien Airlines from Frankfurt. Something arround 500 - 550 €. Wider seats than charter and the best: 46 kg plus hand luggage.

Way back stay he should stay some days in Addis Ababa at Piassa area. Unbelievable stunners there for discount prices.

Willyboy
10-19-10, 19:17
Airlines are all expensive from germany to Mombasa during hollidays. Next time Willy may try Ethiopien Airlines from Frankfurt. Something arround 500 - 550 €. Wider seats than charter and the best: 46 kg plus hand luggage.

Way back stay he should stay some days in Addis Ababa at Piassa area. Unbelievable stunners there for discount prices.I now this rates. But. I need 5h train to frankfurt.

End stop over in ethiopien.

Yestoday. One person need 30h in transport from frankfurt to mombasa. Missing connection in Suise. Than stop in Rome. Zanzibar.

Last weeck was possibel to fly with condor for 262 euro. Tui airways belgium last weeck 319 euro for 2 weecks.

46kg in luggage. No thanks. I not handling in second hand closeds.

Somethimes good prices Turkey airways, stop over Istanboel. Long thimes stop over is problem. This fly to Nairobi.

Somethimes promotion with brussels airline. 500euro. Brussels to Nairobi, 3thimes/weeck

My record 2 jaers ago. 159 euro (2ways) Frankfurt to mombasa with LTU (air berlin) from dusseldorf

Brian723
10-19-10, 23:09
Any suggestions for places to stay in mtwapa for under 20 pounds 2500 kes or less and of course girl friendly. I think this is possible but suggestion would be great please. I know the places to stay will not compare with Thailand or Asia but basic is fine so long as it is guarded and safe.

Willyboy
10-20-10, 17:36
One weeck ago. Togetter with girl from Casa B. Going with my to hotel. Insite room, I told her. 1000ksh ST or 2000ksh LT. This girl smile en say. 2000ksh is very litthe. I say. Choise or maby go back to casa b. Than it was OK.

During night shi told my to have house maid to look her baby end full day house work. Salery. 1500ksh/MONTH. This was not to litthe for her.

Expat Kenya
10-20-10, 20:31
One weeck ago. Togetter with girl from Casa B. Going with my to hotel. Insite room, I told her. 1000ksh ST or 2000ksh LT. This girl smile en say. 2000ksh is very litthe. I say. Choise or maby go back to casa b. Than it was OK.

During night shi told my to have house maid to look her baby end full day house work. Salery. 1500ksh/MONTH. This was not to litthe for her.That is how rude and heartless these girls can be Willyboy. See how they treat others, and you'll know some of their true characters.

LustyHombre
10-21-10, 00:52
If it was your wife who was treated like this I’d understand your post below Lusty, but it was a malaya and one can never trust her stories on her brown eyes only. They do have feelings though one can hardly understand and to get rid of their potential lies and emotional nonsense, that’s why we don’t marry them but pay. It’s so simple for her to say yes or no, they are used to being approached every day, hell even their open pussies can be seen wide open on the photo gallery, something which is illegal in Kenya, making pornography.

As for approaching a Malaya, you are right, never discuss price upfront.Thank you for your wise counsel , Expat !

Maybe you will have to make a distinction between a common crack ho and the kind of girls who are in my rotation ( good looking, well spoken, well groomed, ambitious , with a regular job but needs money on the side )?

LustyHombre
10-21-10, 01:19
One weeck ago. Togetter with girl from Casa B. Going with my to hotel. Insite room, I told her. 1000ksh ST or 2000ksh LT. This girl smile en say. 2000ksh is very litthe. I say. Choise or maby go back to casa b. Than it was OK.

During night shi told my to have house maid to look her baby end full day house work. Salery. 1500ksh/MONTH. This was not to litthe for her.The current legal minimum pay in Kenya is around 6, 000 pm

Employers can deduct room and board (if provided) which means my house servants and my driver get around 4, 000 net plus a free room plus free food.

Not bad, if you consider that all their basic needs are looked after, whereas non-house-servants face rent and food expenses eating up most of their salaries these days, apart from matatu fares.

Of course, the legal min wage is adhered to only by mzungus and other above-board employers, mostly corporations.

I have heard that the informal sector typically pays them only 50 % or so, whatever the market will bear.

As always, trust WB to find the low ball price!

Most others take advantage of the free market system ay rad ore bother for a Ken.

Jamjam222
10-23-10, 15:16
Having been to over 40 countries, I think Nairobi is pretty cool. You stayed in a bad area, ...that i wouldn't recomend. The traffic is bad and it has gotten worse, at most hours, but they are doing a lot of major construction to ease on the traffic gridlock. The trick is to walk, but be carefull. Next time stay in down town around Hilton area or west land. Also, one night is not enough to judge...

Nairobi is great for night life, restaurants and the quality of shopping, movie theatres etc if you know you way around.

I will claim I know most of the town very well, where to stay, eat and hunt.

Traffic is terrible from about 5 - 8 pm, but as you said they are doing a lot of work to fix this. The work is supervised by the Chinese.

I recommend staying in Chester House Apartment in Koinange street (Madhouse is the neighbour). 90 dollars for a studio with kitchen, DSTV. Nice pool and no problem bringing girls in late. Pay guards if you like to, but not nescesary. Daytime they will call you in your room and just send her up when you give her the go.

I feel safe walking most streets in Nairobi as long as there are people about.

Member #4148
10-24-10, 06:17
I feel safe walking most streets in Nairobi as long as there are people about.The Chester House is very nice by local standards (my only knock is their pool has no comfy lounge chairs flanking it, just hard plastic ones) and Kenya Comfort is fine if you don't need frills (and I have a soft spot for the place ever since one of the elevator girls had her tongue down my throat and dry humped me on the second or third time she conveyed me to my floor).

I felt fine walking the streets within a ten-block radius of Chester House even at 2 and 3 AM.

Because there are many security people on every block guarding private property and business fronts. A reasonable deterrent against personal crime in any event, even though they are not there for my benefit.

Born and raised in a semi-dodgy part of NYC and never felt my spider sense tingle even once.

Not proof of anything, mind you. Just an opinion.

Jamjam222
10-24-10, 10:12
The Chester House is very nice by local standards (my only knock is their pool has no comfy lounge chairs flanking it, just hard plastic ones) and Kenya Comfort is fine if you don't need frills (and I have a soft spot for the place ever since one of the elevator girls had her tongue down my throat and dry humped me on the second or third time she conveyed me to my floor).

I felt fine walking the streets within a ten-block radius of Chester House even at 2 and 3 AM.

Because there are many security people on every block guarding private property and business fronts. A reasonable deterrent against personal crime in any event, even though they are not there for my benefit.

Born and raised in a semi-dodgy part of NYC and never felt my spider sense tingle even once.

Not proof of anything, mind you. Just an opinion.Agree about the sunbeds at Chester, but just hassle the pool attendant and he will magically come up with a mattress that he claims he doesn't have ;)

Fun And Sun
10-27-10, 00:59
Same with placing pictures in the photo gallery by some, which again, it is illegal in Kenya, this can also interfere in these ladies private lives in a negative way. When getting set up or being caught you'll face big consequences.

Also Kenyans are watching this forum, maybe a neighbour, boss, parent or any other relative of importance to these ladies lives can see these ladies naked, which is a big shame here, and can have great consequences for moving on with their lives. One shouldn't wish to do such a thing even to the biggest malayas.

Hi Expat,

Can I ask about this, as I am a guilty party of posting the (ahem..) occassional picture...

Do the Kenyans actually go through the trouble of paying for membership to ISG to check out the pictures we post on here, or is it more of an issue of Captain-Save-a-Ho mongerers that think they are doing someone (who knows who) a favour by showing girls that their pictures are "online"?

I did hear from a few people through PMs that one girl (miss Flora...) whose pictures I have posted had found out about it, but this girl has my US cell phone number and has not called me to ask about it, and I actually saw her when I came through Mombasa a few weeks ago and sessioned with her and it was all good, so I think some of these worries might be a bit exaggerated IMHO...

Fun And Sun
10-30-10, 18:49
Yes, you are a guilty party.

If there is even a tiny chance of ruining some girl's life, malaya or otherwise, by having x-rated pics of her on the web in which she can be identified, then yes. You are guilty.

If this sounds judgmental, it is.

I would prefer Jackson's site without the photo feature. And on principle I do not open photos which are posted, nor do I post any.LOL!

I actually think the pictures are one of the best features of Jackson's site. I always enjoy checking out the holiday snaps of other mongerers, so figure that it's only fair that I post a select few pics of my own for others to enjoy...

As stated by our host, Mr. Jackson, ISG is not the internet, it is a closed members only forum where only paid members and grand fathered seniors are able to access the pictures. If anyone could access the pictures, then why would anyone subscribe for $19.95?

You obviously have a different opinion, so good on you that you take a principled stand and never click on a photo... If you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen, I guess...

To paraphrase CS a bit, getting on a pedestal and preaching in a forum dedicated to sex travel is a bit ridiculous. We are all gentlemen, naturally, but many would consider us deviates, so getting on a pedestal in this forum is like arguing that "I am better than thou" since I am less of a deviate...

Bide59
10-30-10, 21:55
Guys, guys, if I may interrupt your quarrel on the picture issue for a while.

Has anyone some info on this hotel? Is it GF? Pro and cons compared to Kahama?

I'm about to book a room/apartment for February but have not read any comment on this hotel. Appreciate your input.

Cunning Stunt
10-31-10, 03:27
I actually think the pictures are one of the best features of Jackson's site. I always enjoy checking out the holiday snaps of other mongerers, so figure that it's only fair that I post a select few pics of my own for others to enjoy...It is, actually, the only meaningful thread on ISG and everything else is an afterthought built around the PGs. ISG is a business meant to make profit for its owner(s) i.e Jackson. He makes his money through a little advertising revenue, but mainly through the subscriptions paid by noobs and lurkers who do not wish to or have no info to share but who want instant access to the photos. For why else pay the subs apart from getting to the goodies? Everything else of importance, except the PM facility is available for free, anyway.

Just look at the viewing figures for every Forums PG viz a viz other threads. 200/300% higher than non-PG threads.

So ISG exists only because of that small percentage of members who are kind enough to share their photos with others.

LustyHombre
10-31-10, 05:01
Guys, guys, if I may interrupt your quarrel on the picture issue for a while.

Has anyone some info on this hotel? Is it GF? Pro and cons compared to Kahama?
I'm about to book a room/apartment for February but have not read any comment on this hotel. Appreciate your input.Actually, your interruption is utterly welcome!

Kenda's Oceanview is a newly built hotel cum bar located in Shanzu Beach.

I have used it a few times for ST. I doubt any of their rooms really offers an ocean view, but that's the only negative I recall: it's small, intimate, offers private parking, the rooms are nicely equipped and very clean, the food and service is good. Don't know how much they charge overnight, but ST is pricey at 2, 000 (compared to 750 at Safari Inn). You are real close to the Serena, the North Coast's classiest Beach Resort and you can enjoy their ambience and their beach without paying thru your nose. Just around the corner, there are lots of places where WG's hang out (Safari Bar, etc).

The minus: you are maybe a mile off the main Mombasa-Mwtapa Road, but there are taxis and tuk-tuks everywhere.

Bide59
10-31-10, 12:31
Actually, your interruption is utterly welcome!

Kenda's Oceanview is a newly built hotel cum bar located in Shanzu Beach.

I have used it a few times for ST. I doubt any of their rooms really offers an ocean view, but that's the only negative I recall: it's small, intimate, offers private parking, the rooms are nicely equipped and very clean, the food and service is good. Don't know how much they charge overnight, but ST is pricey at 2, 000 (compared to 750 at Safari Inn). You are real close to the Serena, the North Coast's classiest Beach Resort and you can enjoy their ambience and their beach without paying thru your nose. Just around the corner, there are lots of places where WG's hang out (Safari Bar, etc).

The minus: you are maybe a mile off the main Mombasa-Mwtapa Road, but there are taxis and tuk-tuks everywhere.Thanks a lot, LH! I will book this hotel since I like it a bit off the main road but still close to beauties and beach. No prop with lack of ocean view, daytime I sleep or hang out, nighttime I watch my female companions :-). Funny the price you mentioned, below are the prices I got quoted for a week stay. Seems they let you pay for a night occupancy even if you stay ST only. Chance for negotiation next time?

ROOMS

1 SINGLE ROOM 1500/= BED & BREAKFAST
LARGE SINGLE ROOM 2000/= BED &BREAKFAST
DOUBLE ROOM 2500/=BED &BREAKFAST

APARTMENTS

1 LUXURIOUS BEDROOM 3000 LUXURIOUS AIR CONDITIONED B/ROOM 3500
2 LUXURIOUS BEDROOM 4000
2 BEDROOM DELUXE 5000

MONTHLY RATES
ONE FULL INSTALLMENT
Single room kshs. 30000
Double room kshs. 45000
OneBedroom Apt kshs. 75000
OneBedroom Airconditioned kshs 85000
TwoBedroom Apt kshs. 90000
Deluxe Apt kshs. 95000

For: reservations contact:+254719 582 131
Or http://www.kendashotel.com Email us info@kendashotel.com

Brian723
10-31-10, 13:07
I have read some advise already but finding it hard to find girl friendly for under 20 pound a night. I have seen okay flight prices, the price of beer and girls is good but now I just need to be sure I can find place for under 20 pound a night in mtwapa, would prefer around 15 pound a night but have to be girl friendly.

I got some info from trip advisor does any one know if the places in the link are any good and girl friendly.

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g294210-i9512-k4000228-l29160434-Mtwapa_cheap_accommodation_in_the_village-Mombasa.html

Brian723
10-31-10, 13:31
I am probably once I find cheap place to stay going to stay near mtwapa village, now I believe it is easy to get day time action if you go out and about smile and strike up a conversation in the right places, is this true. What about the beach is there any options there also.

I believe mtwap village is not so close to the beach, are there any beaches that I can get to using the matatu vans, as I believe they are safe in the day time?

LustyHombre
10-31-10, 15:01
Thanks a lot, LH! I will book this hotel since I like it a bit off the main road but still close to beauties and beach. No prop with lack of ocean view, daytime I sleep or hang out, nighttime I watch my female companions :-). Funny the price you mentioned, below are the prices I got quoted for a week stay. Seems they let you pay for a night occupancy even if you stay ST only. Chance for negotiation next time?

ROOMS

1 SINGLE ROOM 1500/= BED & BREAKFAST
LARGE SINGLE ROOM 2000/= BED &BREAKFAST
DOUBLE ROOM 2500/=BED &BREAKFAST

APARTMENTS

1 LUXURIOUS BEDROOM 3000 LUXURIOUS AIR CONDITIONED B/ROOM 3500
2 LUXURIOUS BEDROOM 4000
2 BEDROOM DELUXE 5000

MONTHLY RATES
ONE FULL INSTALLMENT
Single room kshs. 30000
Double room kshs. 45000
OneBedroom Apt kshs. 75000
OneBedroom Airconditioned kshs 85000
TwoBedroom Apt kshs. 90000
Deluxe Apt kshs. 95000

For: reservations contact:+254719 582 131
Or http://www.kendashotel.com Email us info@kendashotel.comThanks for the price list info!

Please note that whenever you pay for a single but bring a companion along you will be expected to pay the upcharge for a double. You should therefore expect to pay 2, 500 / day, not 1, 500 only.

May be you can cut a deal with the girl at the desk? Or try the night clerk lateron.

Willyboy
10-31-10, 20:02
I am probably once I find cheap place to stay going to stay near mtwapa village, now I believe it is easy to get day time action if you go out and about smile and strike up a conversation in the right places, is this true. What about the beach is there any options there also.

I believe mtwap village is not so close to the beach, are there any beaches that I can get to using the matatu vans, as I believe they are safe in the day time?Go to hebriscus hotel for 10 euro/night (1000ksh)

or to hipo gasthouse ...same.

Appartments enough for 1200 ksh/day.

Very strangs that mzungus look for accomodation for small prices (1000ksh end unsafe) end that new toerist paying prices for girls (10 thimes normal rates) Spend litthe more for yourself end sleep somethimes alloon.

Fun And Sun
11-01-10, 00:44
My last word on the subject as no one, including me, is interested in protracted flaming, disagreements, etc.

You actually started the subject of pictures by posting the following:

"Can I ask about this, as I am a guilty party of posting the (ahem..) occassional picture..."

If you start a subject and actually solicit the advice/ideas of members without PM'ing individuals, it is just foolish to respond to the responses as preaching.

You asked. If you are not interested in the answers, you should keep your questions to yourself.LOL!

Have no interest in continuing this conversation either.

If someone actually reads the question I asked, the topic I raised was a question to Expat Kenya whether I was reading his post right that Kenyans were accessing this forum and taking an interest in the pictures of the girls, or if it is just the situation that we have in lots of other countries where Captain-Save-A-Hos show girls their pics on ISG so that they can get a better BJ or whatever.

Sounds to me like it's the latter, rather than the former. If it was the former and our posts and pics were attracting a lot of interest from Kenyans then that would be a cause for worry and not posting any pics on here, but since that does not seem to be the case, no cause for concern and we can keep posting pics, so good news! :)

Cunning Stunt
11-01-10, 03:52
I have read some advise already but finding it hard to find girl friendly for under 20 pound a night. I have seen okay flight prices, the price of beer and girls is good but now I just need to be sure I can find place for under 20 pound a night in mtwapa, would prefer around 15 pound a night but have to be girl friendly.Tried to send you a PM but you are not a full member. Pay the subscription so that you are able to receive PMs and enjoy the photos!!

Heres what I PM'd.


Hi mate,

Might be of use you reading the report that I submitted last month. I based myself in Mtwapa. Finding daytime action is like falling off a log, only easier. Recommend you stay in an apartment. Much nicer and more space. Luck apartments where I stayed is excellent value at 2000 KES a day. You can find contact details by searching my recent Kenyan reports.Cheers and have fun. I sure did. Don't forget to submit a trip report.

CS

Bide59
11-01-10, 12:17
Thanks for the price list info!

Please note that whenever you pay for a single but bring a companion along you will be expected to pay the upcharge for a double. You should therefore expect to pay 2, 500 / day, not 1, 500 only.

May be you can cut a deal with the girl at the desk? Or try the night clerk lateron.Yeah, I know, thanks. That's why I'm opting for the apartment instead. For only 500 extra I will get a more spacious place. And breakfast, who has time for breakfast?

FoxesHunter
11-01-10, 17:17
Hi, in your opinion what is closer to action The Kendas Oceanview Hotel or Merry Villa buildig?

I like a furnished apartment close to action.


APARTMENTS

1 LUXURIOUS BEDROOM 3000 LUXURIOUS AIR CONDITIONED B/ROOM 3500
2 LUXURIOUS BEDROOM 4000
2 BEDROOM DELUXE 5000

For: reservations contact:+254719 582 131
Or http://www.kendashotel.com Email us info@kendashotel.com

Brian723
11-01-10, 18:27
Go to hebriscus hotel for 10 euro/night (1000ksh)

or to hipo gasthouse ...same.

Appartments enough for 1200 ksh/day.

Very strangs that mzungus look for accomodation for small prices (1000ksh end unsafe) end that new toerist paying prices for girls (10 thimes normal rates) Spend litthe more for yourself end sleep somethimes alloon.Thanks for the info.

In what way are the cheaper places unsafe?

Willyboy
11-01-10, 20:00
Thanks for the info.

In what way are the cheaper places unsafe?If you want prostitution in Mombasa for 200ksh ST (Sabasaba), maby you losed your last slip. For accomodation. Same situation. Maby higher prices in hotel. The lock from your door will by better.

Taurus1
11-01-10, 22:04
Hi, in your opinion what is closer to action The Kendas Oceanview Hotel or Merry Villa buildig?

I like a furnished apartment close to action.Merry Villa is the better option. Walking distance to the places of Mtwapa (Casuarina,Kendas etc.) and to the Mombasa-Malindi Road. So 24 hours matatu connections to Nakumatt-Tembo-Mombasa. Also nearby mini- market 24 hours open.

Kendas Oceanview is near Safari Inn but at night from 10 p.m. only taxis to the main road and when Safari Inn is close (when no customers at nidnight) than you must order a taxi to pick you up.

Expat Kenya
11-04-10, 12:34
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Scout123
11-09-10, 12:33
Kenya girls finding love end emotions with black mans (without money)

Kenya girls like mzungu for money. If you not andestanding this. O MY GOD

If you want discus this with my. Send mail. I will try to explain in my bad english.Kenya girls can find love and emotions with mzungu.

Willyboy
11-09-10, 17:10
Kenya girls can find love and emotions with mzungu.But the end destination is always money. Litthe bit love is possibel. If the mzungu is less than 10 jaers older the than Kenya girl. Older mzungu will say. Not agry. But Hi will find out after litthe thime. Give him thime for conclution.

Member #4364
11-09-10, 19:32
And the african men pay also.......

Willyboy
11-09-10, 19:43
And the african men pay also.very small money. This is way mzungus are more interest. All thinks in Kenya going about money, not about love.

Tonkazan
11-09-10, 21:35
And the african men pay also.......

Thank you, Sir for pointing out this point. I am an African man, and I always pay whenever I engage the services of a pro. I dont know where some members get this idea that African men just get it free. The only one who gives me "free" is my wife, but even that is not free, as I provide for her upkeep....

Fun And Sun
11-10-10, 01:46
A post that I would have found useful when I was planning my initial travels to Africa would have been a compare and contrast of Kenya/Tanzania. This is based on my initial impressions of both destinations, and would be interested in the reaction of experienced senior members to this. It’s written to be of use to someone that has been to one of these two destinations, or neither of these destinations and trying to decide where to head to. Probably of no use to mongerers that have been to both destinations. (This doesn't really compare the two countries, but rather compares Dar es Salaam and Mombasa.)

So, IMHO...:

Overall:

I would say that Mombasa, or rather Bamburi, is a full on mongering destination with loads of girls available at places that are easy to get to. Bamburi is a bit spread out, but you can go everywhere easily and pretty cheaply by taxi and matatu.

Dar es Salaam is a big city with lots of mongering potential, but I would not describe it as a mongering destination, i.e. I would not get on an airplane to go to Dar just to monger. That being said, there are loads of non-mongering things to do around Dar like going on safari, Zanzibar, etc that are nice. (Likewise for Mombasa/Bamburi.)

Bamburi is a nice beach side holiday destination, while Dar is a big city. You can get to a nice beach pretty easily in Dar, but need to take a taxi.

Neither destination really has an organised mongering scene (at least not for tourists) and are 95% freelancers I would say. Don’t know if the massage girls count as being organised mongering... In Dar they tended to be in massage parlours while in Mombasa/Bamburi they are along the beach working in little groups.

Looks of the girls:

Both places have hot girls, loads of tribes means that there is also loads of variety (within the black girl category) so there are girls that are tall and short, fat and slim, big tits and small tits, very dark skin and very light skin available in both places. Maybe a slight edge for the Tanzanian girls in this category.

Anal sex:

Tanzanian girls are much more likely to give up their behinds than the Kenyan girls from what I experienced.

Oral sex:

Kenyan girls seem much more happy to blow away than Tanzanian girls. Both sets of girls do BBBJ as standard.

Cum in mouth/cum on face:

Kenyan girls seem to have no problem with having cum on their faces, in their mouths, on their tits... The Tanzanian girls seemed a lot more reluctant to do this.

Fucking:

Both Tanzanian girls and Kenyan girls fuck really well, not as good as Jamaican girls do, but it is rare to have a star fish experience.

Non-pros:

Had one non-pro girl that I met and went on dates with in Mombasa, did not try this in Dar since I didn’t have time and was going back and forth between different non-mongering activities so wasn’t around for that many nights in a row.

Pictures and movies:

Kenyan girls seem happy to pose for pictures and be in movies, while the Tanzanian girls were much more reluctant.

Day time action:

Both places have massage girls for day time action, but best bet is to gather phone numbers on your evenings out and then call girls that you want to meet or that you want to repeat with. Day time action is better in Mombasa since there you can always head to Big Tree or find a massage girl along the beach. In Dar you need to taxi it over all the way to the US embassy where there are a number of massage parlours but that is a bit of a journey.

Week day evening action:

Pretty tame in both destinations. Always something going on in Q-bar in Dar, and a few girls hanging around at Casaurina and Cheers in Bamburi, but not that much fun to be honest.

Weekend night time action:

Great in both destinations! It really pics up on the weekend, but Mombasa has a much much bigger selection of girls than Dar does.

Getting around:

Much easier in Mombasa/Bamburi than in Dar. Dar is a big city so you have to deal with loads of traffic. Suppose it’s the same in Mombasa proper, but if you aren’t there for that long then you don’t really need to go into Mombasa proper.

Prices:

Very similar between both destinations, i.e. very very cheap.

Hesekiels
11-10-10, 12:33
African men pay very small money...


That's a good point! It would be indeed very interesting to know what locals pay for ST and LT! Has anybody information about that?

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Member #4148
11-10-10, 13:57
That's a good point! It would be indeed very interesting to know what locals pay for ST and LT! Has anybody information about that?

Cheers!

HesekielsI'm pretty sure WB has already posted this info a while back.

I can't recall what he wrote, though.

Pretty sure he'll be happy to post it again.

Willyboy
11-10-10, 13:58
That's a good point! It would be indeed very interesting to know what locals pay for ST and LT! Has anybody information about that?

Cheers!

HesekielsBlack man pay for ST. 200ksh

For LT. 500ksh.

This are standard rates. Always possibel that member from Kenya say. No, no it is more. But this information comming from Kenya girls.

Member #4364
11-10-10, 19:25
A wife is much more expensive..........
I´m visiting Africa so many years; also in local bars; only the
sun is for free in Africa; Gents; ok.; maybe the africans pay less

Willyboy
11-10-10, 20:14
A wife is much more expensive.

I´m visiting Africa so many years; also in local bars; only the sun is for free in Africa; Gents; ok.; maybe the africans pay lessYou verget. The smile of the kenya girls is also for free.

Hesekiels
11-10-10, 21:37
Black man pay for ST. 200ksh, For LT. 500ksh. This are standard rates. ...Many thanks for this update, WB! It is always good to have such a benchmark!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Cunning Stunt
11-11-10, 03:32
Black man pay for ST. 200ksh


Bugger me, thats cheap! I was giving girls that amount as taxi money. No wonder they were so hard to get rid of:-).

Member #4178
11-11-10, 06:59
I pay only matato money but not always.

Max 100 shiling if she comes from town to mtpapa.

Member #4148
11-11-10, 07:25
I knew WB would be Johnny on the spot with the info.

He's almost as predictable as a stroll through Simmers.

And that's not a bad thing.

Tonkazan
11-11-10, 11:58
Black man pay for ST. 200ksh

For LT. 500ksh.

This are standard rates. Always possibel that member from Kenya say. No, no it is more. But this information comming from Kenya girls.

Yes, Willyboy, this member from Kenya, who is also a black man, totally agrees with you. The rates that you give are standard, in places like Sabasaba and bombolulu. However, in upmarket joints like casablanca, even black men like me have to pay a little more, usually in the range of ST. 500, and LT. 1000ksh. But, that's just my own experience. Maybe the girls overcharge me because of my age, beer belly and grey hair? Am sure young beach boys and matatu conductors pay less...

Cheers!

Hesekiels
11-11-10, 12:36
Yes, Willyboy, this member from Kenya, who is also a black man, totally agrees with you.


Many thanks, Tonkazan! IMHO it is extremly helpful that you have acknowledged Willyboy's prices! As a foreigner I have no problem to pay more than locals, but now we have at least a better understanding 'what's still in line' and where the rip-off begins!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

MarioMarengo
11-11-10, 14:46
Many thanks, Tonkazan! IMHO it is extremly helpful that you have acknowledged Willyboy's prices! As a foreigner I have no problem to pay more than locals, but now we have at least a better understanding 'what's still in line' and where the rip-off begins!

Cheers!

Hesekiels
Thanks a lot from me too i will be there in few days

LustyHombre
11-11-10, 19:10
Yes, Willyboy, this member from Kenya, who is also a black man, totally agrees with you. The rates that you give are standard, in places like Sabasaba and bombolulu. However, in upmarket joints like casablanca, even black men like me have to pay a little more, usually in the range of ST. 500, and LT. 1000ksh. But, that's just my own experience. Maybe the girls overcharge me because of my age, beer belly and grey hair? Am sure young beach boys and matatu conductors pay less...

Cheers!Rather than "Location, Location" ( the # 1 factor in Real Estate pricing as well . Translation : the girl who readily accepts 200 in Bombolulu expects 500 or even 1,000 after spending 50 KES on a matatu ride to Big Tree ) , my most important trigger is : how visually attractive is she and can she carry a conversation ?

Do I get a boner just by looking at her moving around ? And if I do then I don't mind spending 2,000 ST on her ( and truth be told sometimes more , depending upon what all is on the menu ) .

Life is too short and my time too precious to be motivated by a low price.

Member #4364
11-11-10, 19:27
Gentlemen; 1000 ksh are round 10 €; for me no problem;
if the locals pay only 500.
I want to be fair if a girl is making me happy.
If i ve a look about the Thai ripp-off; Barfine; Ladydrink aso....
Africa is a dream for sex; ehhhh; is it too much for you to give
a young hottie fu... 10 € ???

Willyboy
11-11-10, 19:53
Gentlemen; 1000 ksh are round 10 €; for me no problem;
if the locals pay only 500.

I want to be fair if a girl is making me happy.

If i ve a look about the Thai ripp-off; Barfine; Ladydrink aso.

Africa is a dream for sex; ehhhh; is it too much for you to give a young hottie fu... 10 € ???It is not problem to pay 10 euro .But if the local price for taxi is 10 euro .You pay always 20 euro ?? Maby in Germany ??This type of discission can not have good end!

Tonkazan
11-11-10, 21:45
@ Hesekiels, you are welcome, mate! I find it okay for a foreign monger to pay a little more than locals, but it should be something reasonable, not the 3k, 4k, 5k that I have been reading in this forum. When you overpay the girls, they get greedy, and start demanding more from everyone else.

@ Mariomarengo, karibu Kenya! Wish you a wonderful holiday and pleasant mongering.

Expat Kenya
11-11-10, 22:10
Black man pay for ST. 200ksh

For LT. 500ksh.

This are standard rates. Always possibel that member from Kenya say. No, no it is more. But this information comming from Kenya girls.Actually kes 200 is based on the price of a morning-after pil. At saba saba you can get an old woman for kes 50, not interesting!

Kes 1000 is the price guys, and i she kooks, washes clothes or so, kes 1500 for a full day hottie is good paid.

C

Hesekiels
11-11-10, 23:11
... I find it okay for a foreign monger to pay a little more than locals, but it should be something reasonable, not the 3k, 4k, 5k that I have been reading in this forum. When you overpay the girls, they get greedy, and start demanding more from everyone else...


very wise words from somebody who knows the facts best! I could not agree more! All of us are well advised to bear Tonkazan's words in mind!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Itchy36
11-12-10, 01:08
Rather than "Location, Location" ( the # 1 factor in Real Estate pricing as well . Translation : the girl who readily accepts 200 in Bombolulu expects 500 or even 1,000 after spending 50 KES on a matatu ride to Big Tree ) , my most important trigger is : how visually attractive is she and can she carry a conversation ?

Do I get a boner just by looking at her moving around ? And if I do then I don't mind spending 2,000 ST on her ( and truth be told sometimes more , depending upon what all is on the menu ) .

Life is too short and my time too precious to be motivated by a low price.You are very right we pay even much more in other places for very fake service, whats kes2000 or more for a good service? Always remember a good wage motivates these gals. Pay them less and they will put less on the menu.

Cheers guys

LustyHombre
11-12-10, 02:02
Am sure young beach boys and matatu conductors pay less...

Cheers!Don't know about matatu touts, but judging by the large numbers of obese and fugly single female European mongeresses (maybe they have their own version of ISG?) trawling the beaches these days for a fit young toyboy, it might be quite lucrative to be a beach boy.

I've overheard WG's saying to each other that many beach boys make way more than even the top WG's from sleeping with these wales.

Other beach boys are said to be running protection rackets for other types of beach operators and I am sure that free sex from WG's is part of the deal.

As I said, I don't know about matatu guys, but for whatever it is worth: my gardener claims to get ST in Kongowea for 50/-. I imagine you'd want to be wrapped in a full body condom to get anywhere near that place; but if your trigger is The Low Price, then why would you overpay at 200/- somewhere else?

LustyHombre
11-12-10, 07:20
A post that I would have found useful when I was planning my initial travels to Africa would have been a compare and contrast of Kenya/Tanzania. This is based on my initial impressions of both destinations, and would be interested in the reaction of experienced senior members to this. It’s written to be of use to someone that has been to one of these two destinations, or neither of these destinations and trying to decide where to head to. Probably of no use to mongerers that have been to both destinations. (This doesn't really compare the two countries, but rather compares Dar es Salaam and Mombasa.)

So, IMHO:

Overall:

I would say that Mombasa, or rather Bamburi, is a full on mongering destination with loads of girls available at places that are easy to get to. Bamburi is a bit spread out, but you can go everywhere easily and pretty cheaply by taxi and matatu.

Dar es Salaam is a big city with lots of mongering potential, but I would not describe it as a mongering destination, i.e. I would not get on an airplane to go to Dar just to monger. That being said, there are loads of non-mongering things to do around Dar like going on safari, Zanzibar, etc that are nice. (Likewise for Mombasa/Bamburi.)

Bamburi is a nice beach side holiday destination, while Dar is a big city. You can get to a nice beach pretty easily in Dar, but need to take a taxi.

Neither destination really has an organised mongering scene (at least not for tourists) and are 95% freelancers I would say. Don’t know if the massage girls count as being organised mongering... In Dar they tended to be in massage parlours while in Mombasa/Bamburi they are along the beach working in little groups.

Looks of the girls:

Both places have hot girls, loads of tribes means that there is also loads of variety (within the black girl category) so there are girls that are tall and short, fat and slim, big tits and small tits, very dark skin and very light skin available in both places. Maybe a slight edge for the Tanzanian girls in this category.

Anal sex:

Tanzanian girls are much more likely to give up their behinds than the Kenyan girls from what I experienced.

Oral sex:

Kenyan girls seem much more happy to blow away than Tanzanian girls. Both sets of girls do BBBJ as standard.

Cum in mouth/cum on face:

Kenyan girls seem to have no problem with having cum on their faces, in their mouths, on their tits... The Tanzanian girls seemed a lot more reluctant to do this.

Fucking:

Both Tanzanian girls and Kenyan girls fuck really well, not as good as Jamaican girls do, but it is rare to have a star fish experience.

Non-pros:

Had one non-pro girl that I met and went on dates with in Mombasa, did not try this in Dar since I didn’t have time and was going back and forth between different non-mongering activities so wasn’t around for that many nights in a row.

Pictures and movies:

Kenyan girls seem happy to pose for pictures and be in movies, while the Tanzanian girls were much more reluctant.

Day time action:

Both places have massage girls for day time action, but best bet is to gather phone numbers on your evenings out and then call girls that you want to meet or that you want to repeat with. Day time action is better in Mombasa since there you can always head to Big Tree or find a massage girl along the beach. In Dar you need to taxi it over all the way to the US embassy where there are a number of massage parlours but that is a bit of a journey.

Week day evening action:

Pretty tame in both destinations. Always something going on in Q-bar in Dar, and a few girls hanging around at Casaurina and Cheers in Bamburi, but not that much fun to be honest.

Weekend night time action:

Great in both destinations! It really pics up on the weekend, but Mombasa has a much much bigger selection of girls than Dar does.

Getting around:

Much easier in Mombasa/Bamburi than in Dar. Dar is a big city so you have to deal with loads of traffic. Suppose it’s the same in Mombasa proper, but if you aren’t there for that long then you don’t really need to go into Mombasa proper.

Prices:

Very similar between both destinations, i.e. very very cheap.Thank you for this excellent wrap-up report , F&S !

I agree with most of your conclusions , except

a) 3 holers are more common in MBA than in DAR

b) In general, Kenya girls are much more enthusiastic and less inhibited than Tanzania girls

c) My gold standard are definitely not Jamaica girls ( way too much ATTITUDE ; Dominicans, Haitians and Cubans are much easier going and try much harder to please you - at least that was the case when I was active in that part of the world ) but rather Uganda girls living/working in Kenya.

Willyboy
11-12-10, 09:23
Don't know about matatu touts, but judging by the large numbers of obese and fugly single female European mongeresses (maybe they have their own version of ISG?) trawling the beaches these days for a fit young toyboy, it might be quite lucrative to be a beach boy.

I've overheard WG's saying to each other that many beach boys make way more than even the top WG's from sleeping with these wales.

Other beach boys are said to be running protection rackets for other types of beach operators and I am sure that free sex from WG's is part of the deal.

As I said, I don't know about matatu guys, but for whatever it is worth: my gardener claims to get ST in Kongowea for 50/-. I imagine you'd want to be wrapped in a full body condom to get anywhere near that place; but if your trigger is The Low Price, then why would you overpay at 200/- somewhere else?In the daily nation was staying articel ...that in kibera was possibel to fuck for 20ksh (price for cop of milk) Joung girls with baby from 3 day old was waiting for this amount.

Hesekiels
11-12-10, 21:53
In the daily nation was staying articel ...that in kibera was possibel to fuck for 20ksh (price for cop of milk) Joung girls with baby from 3 day old was waiting for this amount.I just hope that no foreigner would take advantage from such a situation!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Member #4148
11-12-10, 22:34
My gold standard are definitely not Jamaica girls ( way too much ATTITUDE ; Dominicans, Haitians and Cubans are much easier going and try much harder to please you - at least that was the case when I was active in that part of the world ) but rather Uganda girls living/working in Kenya.Do we infer from this that you have found Ugandan girls on the whole to be the most pleasing? Or merely the ones in Kenya?

Fun And Sun
11-13-10, 02:10
Thank you for this excellent wrap-up report , F&S !

I agree with most of your conclusions , except

a) 3 holers are more common in MBA than in DAR

b) In general, Kenya girls are much more enthusiastic and less inhibited than Tanzania girls

c) My gold standard are definitely not Jamaica girls ( way too much ATTITUDE ; Dominicans, Haitians and Cubans are much easier going and try much harder to please you - at least that was the case when I was active in that part of the world ) but rather Uganda girls living/working in Kenya.

Cheers Lusty!

A. I defer to your judgment on whether 3-holers are more common in MBA than in DAR since I recon you have more experience with both destinations than I do. Almost all the Tanzanian girls that I met did anal though, while in Mombasa it was a much rarer treat. 20% from my sample versus 60%+ in Dar. In Dar I did not venture outside the tourist mongering scene to source girls though, and only had one experience with a non-pro Kenyan girl (she finally sleeping with me on my last night of the trip was not an occasion to suggest anal...) From your posts I gather that you live in Mombasa and thus probably have better sources of girls than a mongerer that is just passing through town, so is your comment on 3-holers about the Mombasa/Dar girls on the tourist circuit or about the girls that one can access if one spends significant time on the ground?

B. I agree, Kenyan girls are much less inhibited than Tanzanian girls.

C. With respect, I totally disagree with you! :) Am actually in the process of putting together a guide to Montego Bay and Negril on the Jamaica threads (it is spread out over the Montego Bay/Negril/General Information threads at the moment since I am writing it section by section and posting them as I finish them). I think what type of sex one likes is very much dependent on the individual mongerer, so here are links to the relevant sections of the guide:

What type of sex to expect with Jamaican girls:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1083247

The different types of girls that are in Jamaica:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1085240

Fun And Sun
11-13-10, 02:16
I found the Dar girls to be a lot less clingy than the Mombasa girls. In Mombasa I sometimes had to concoct elaborate BS stories to get a girl to leave my room after ST, while this was never an issue in Dar. Most girls in Dar would try to hang around rather than leave, but did go without any problem when I politely suggested that I wanted them to leave.

LustyHombre
11-14-10, 06:10
I found the Dar girls to be a lot less clingy than the Mombasa girls. In Mombasa I sometimes had to concoct elaborate BS stories to get a girl to leave my room after ST, while this was never an issue in Dar. Most girls in Dar would try to hang around rather than leave, but did go without any problem when I politely suggested that I wanted them to leave.Was it Woody Allen (or maybe somebody else I don't particularly like?) who coined :

"I don't pay for sex ! I pay them to leave afterwards "

Fun And Sun
11-15-10, 00:51
Was it Woody Allen (or maybe somebody else I don't particularly like?) who coined :

"I don't pay for sex ! I pay them to leave afterwards "

It was that fine upstanding gentleman Charlie Sheen who said it when the judge asked him why he had paid for sex.

Maybe that is a lead for a good strategy to send girls away. If you don't leave now then I won't pay...

LustyHombre
11-15-10, 07:04
Do we infer from this that you have found Ugandan girls on the whole to be the most pleasing? Or merely the ones in Kenya?Haven't been to Kampala for ages .

The only Uganda girls I know all live and work here in Kenya but it would seem reasonable to assume that there are more of the same caliber where these came from.

LustyHombre
11-15-10, 18:29
Cheers Lusty!

A. I defer to your judgment on whether 3-holers are more common in MBA than in DAR since I recon you have more experience with both destinations than I do. Almost all the Tanzanian girls that I met did anal though, while in Mombasa it was a much rarer treat. 20% from my sample versus 60%+ in Dar. In Dar I did not venture outside the tourist mongering scene to source girls though, and only had one experience with a non-pro Kenyan girl (she finally sleeping with me on my last night of the trip was not an occasion to suggest anal...) From your posts I gather that you live in Mombasa and thus probably have better sources of girls than a mongerer that is just passing through town, so is your comment on 3-holers about the Mombasa/Dar girls on the tourist circuit or about the girls that one can access if one spends significant time on the ground?

B. I agree, Kenyan girls are much less inhibited than Tanzanian girls.

C. With respect, I totally disagree with you! :) Am actually in the process of putting together a guide to Montego Bay and Negril on the Jamaica threads (it is spread out over the Montego Bay/Negril/General Information threads at the moment since I am writing it section by section and posting them as I finish them). I think what type of sex one likes is very much dependent on the individual mongerer, so here are links to the relevant sections of the guide:

What type of sex to expect with Jamaican girls:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1083247

The different types of girls that are in Jamaica:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1085240Thank you for helping to keep the MBA thread out of the gutter!

A. I don't keep score cards and condense them into stats, but you can trust me on this one nevertheless. I've been living in MBA for the last 3 winters and have visited DAR 5 or 6 times. I was comparing pros on the tourist circuit in both places.

C. You are way ahead of me, as far as Jamaicans are concerned. Have visited there only once (15 years ago + got only negative vibes, except in Hedonism II). I've met lots of Jamaican escorts and strippers in Toronto, Houston, NYC and London over the last 3 decades or so, and while many of them were georgeous to look at and touch, most of them were pure mercenaries to deal with. On the other hand, I've visited Haiti, the DR and Cuba quite regularly on biz until about 2002, and met a plethora of memorable and very sweet girls in all 3 countries.come to think of it: I found the sexiest Carribeans in Venezuela, but they are mostly white latinas.

Fun And Sun
11-16-10, 22:12
yup, in the pooper rather than the gutter lol...

don't keep track of stats either, but usually carry a little note book where i jot down funny things that happen, girls that i've done and similar since that makes for fun memories, which reminds me that i still need to finish up and post my trip report from mombasa...


thank you for helping to keep the mba thread out of the gutter!

a. i don't keep score cards and condense them into stats, but you can trust me on this one nevertheless. i've been living in mba for the last 3 winters and have visited dar 5 or 6 times. i was comparing pros on the tourist circuit in both places.

c. you are way ahead of me, as far as jamaicans are concerned. have visited there only once (15 years ago + got only negative vibes, except in hedonism ii). i've met lots of jamaican escorts and strippers in toronto, houston, nyc and london over the last 3 decades or so, and while many of them were georgeous to look at and touch, most of them were pure mercenaries to deal with. on the other hand, i've visited haiti, the dr and cuba quite regularly on biz until about 2002, and met a plethora of memorable and very sweet girls in all 3 countries.come to think of it: i found the sexiest carribeans in venezuela, but they are mostly white latinas.

Willyboy
11-28-10, 21:51
In the period 6 to 13 Dec.

Are the prices different than normal for accommodation?

Ticket price was good .Brussels to Mombasa 364 euro (return)

Kenyangirl
11-29-10, 14:05
They Are Thiefs And Just Bullshit

Be Careful And Never Go There

======================================

Hi Kenyangirl,

I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...

Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

LustyHombre
11-29-10, 20:21
In the period 6 to 13 Dec.

Are the prices different than normal for accommodation?

Ticket price was good .Brussels to Mombasa 364 euro (return)Most hotels maintain regular pricing until Dec 20 or so . They go crazy over Xmas and New Year and usually wait until Jan 10 or so to go back to the old level.

Bide59
11-30-10, 10:45
[QUOTE=Kenyangirl]They Are Thiefs And Just Bullshit

Be Careful And Never Go There

[blue]======================================

Hmm, could you please be more specific here? After recommendation of some people living there that this hotel is ok, I just transfered my 50% down payment to Kendas for my stay in February. Should I kiss this sum goodbye then?

Member #4364
11-30-10, 19:21
I never heard something negative about the Kendash Group

Tonkazan
11-30-10, 22:52
I am also surprised to hear this comment about Kendas group. Who did they steal from? I have been in Mombasa for years, and have never heard anything like that. Maybe kenyangirl would be kind enough to elaborate, and be more specific?

Jbond
12-01-10, 20:27
I am also surprised to hear this comment about Kendas group. Who did they steal from? I have been in Mombasa for years, and have never heard anything like that. Maybe kenyangirl would be kind enough to elaborate, and be more specific?Could one elaborate on what happened at Kendas.Sounds like a bad experience to me. The security tell me every night near enough they experience trouble with guys rowing with the girls they bring in mainly over money.They were good to me because one girl could not understand that I just wanted to be friends and didn't want a long term relationship. They kept her downstairs instead of her besieging my door.That is after she had a fight with a girl at Casaurina because she was convinced I had fucked this particular girl. Woman's intuition is frighteningly accurate,she was right I screwed the girl and her friend,while they were licking each other's pussies.

By the way,most people don't stay at Kendas because of the huge amount of noise and insect problem that comes from the kitchens.

By the Willlyboy that is good price 364 Euros to Mombasa,who are you flying with?

Any thoughts on Malindi,discos,girls,cheap places to stay.

Willyboy
12-02-10, 09:41
Could one elaborate on what happened at Kendas.Sounds like a bad experience to me. The security tell me every night near enough they experience trouble with guys rowing with the girls they bring in mainly over money.They were good to me because one girl could not understand that I just wanted to be friends and didn't want a long term relationship. They kept her downstairs instead of her besieging my door.That is after she had a fight with a girl at Casaurina because she was convinced I had fucked this particular girl. Woman's intuition is frighteningly accurate,she was right I screwed the girl and her friend,while they were licking each other's pussies.

By the way,most people don't stay at Kendas because of the huge amount of noise and insect problem that comes from the kitchens.

By the Willlyboy that is good price 364 Euros to Mombasa,who are you flying with?

Any thoughts on Malindi,discos,girls,cheap places to stay.http://www.jetairfly.com/vlucht/last-minute/nl/

Jbond
12-02-10, 18:49
http://www.jetairfly.com/vlucht/last-minute/nl/Yes, interesting but only one way. However much I would prefer to stay in Mombasa. I would have to look at returning occasionally.

Does anyone have any thoughts on Malindi, clubs places to stay and the women.

Do we all think Bamburi/Mtwapa a better place for us fellow hunters?

Lantern1
12-03-10, 05:58
Yes, interesting but only one way. However much I would prefer to stay in Mombasa. I would have to look at returning occasionally.

Does anyone have any thoughts on Malindi, clubs places to stay and the women.

Do we all think Bamburi/Mtwapa a better place for us fellow hunters?Regarding Malindi, plenty of nice girls here.

Clubs: Formento, Stardust, Rainbow Club, etc.

Cheap and clean: Susmar 500Kes per night.

Jbond
12-03-10, 19:49
Regarding Malindi, plenty of nice girls here.

Clubs: Formento, Stardust, Rainbow Club, etc.

Cheap and clean: Susmar 500Kes per night.Thanks for the advice. I hear Malindi is well worth a visit. Alot of the girls seem to travel backwards and forwards from Malindi to Mombasa. So I definitely will do the same. A change of scenery so to speak and from this insanely jealous girl! I tried to google Susmar but no luck. I would hope it is centralish, girl friendly, not too far from the action and the beach. Not asking too much am I?

I am surprised there isn't more chat on the Kenya forum about Malindi, as it seems to have all the ingredients for hiding the sausage and any love safaris that fellow hunters could envisage.

Cheers

Himbersaft
12-03-10, 22:53
I never heard something negative about the Kendash GroupOk, this my Storie:

In January 2010 I stay 3 weeks in Kendas Arccade without any problems.

In August 2010 was my second Trip. My arrival was on Saturday morning,

So I check in at 11 pm in Kendas Arccade.

In the Afternoon 4:30 am I leave my Room to go downstairs to the Kendas Beergarden for a Meal. Here I meet same of my Friends for a Tusker. At 7:00am I go return to my room, to change my dress.

But when I arrive my Room the Door was open and the Light was on.

My 2 chase was break open and a lot of my personal property was steal.

All my cash, ATM Card, all electric equipment (shaver, camera, etc.), all travel documents, a couple of shirts, a couple of small bags, etc. So the snatcher live with a big packet.

Make a long Storie short, I stay the half Night by the Mtwapa Police make a Report but the investigation without any result.

The Police questioned the desk clerk, supervisor of the Hotel, Manager of the Hotel, Security Guard and other house person but all don't see anything!

My personal injury was over 1200.. Euro.

Super start for my Holidays!

So Kendas Arcade is a clean place with a good value for the money but is not a safe place.

Many Times the front desk is not occupied, you have to wait 5 – 10 minute that the Girl is return. Every person can catch the Keys, or can pass to the rooms.

The Security guards don't look at the Hotel, only for the people there makes trouble at the Beergarden or in the Gogo Bar.

Himbersaft

Expat Kenya
12-04-10, 03:05
Yes, interesting but only one way.Fill out the form .. departure tomorrow for one week, 344.98 euro including taxes.

Willy showed me a flight earlier for less than 250 euro, return, including taxes.

Member #4364
12-04-10, 20:23
Have you really left 1200 € cash in an african hotel room ?
Have you left your ATM card in such a local hotel ?
Do you know what a travel safe is ?

Cheers

Jamjam222
12-04-10, 21:40
I tried to google Susmar but no luck.


Cheers

If it is only 500 a night I hardly think they have a web page ;)

Cunning Stunt
12-05-10, 02:19
In January 2010 I stay 3 weeks in Kendas Arccade without any problems.


Wow, you stayed in that noisy dump for 3 weeks! I stayed there the one night and even that was too long.

Rooms are easily accessed from the street/bar. I got the impression that the place was pretty insecure and I'll bet theft from rooms is a common problem.

LustyHombre
12-05-10, 05:10
Thanks for the advice. I hear Malindi is well worth a visit. Alot of the girls seem to travel backwards and forwards from Malindi to Mombasa. So I definitely will do the same. A change of scenery so to speak and from this insanely jealous girl! I tried to google Susmar but no luck. I would hope it is centralish, girl friendly, not too far from the action and the beach. Not asking too much am I?

I am surprised there isn't more chat on the Kenya forum about Malindi, as it seems to have all the ingredients for hiding the sausage and any love safaris that fellow hunters could envisage.

CheersSeems to me, the Malindi Cosa Nostra has been quite successful in keeping their little town off the radar screen of Non-Italians. Do they just want to keep a good thing to themselves, or is there really nothing to share to begin with?

Anyhow, with Mombasa so full of goodies: where is the need to venture beyond?

Himbersaft
12-05-10, 15:39
Have you really left 1200 € cash in an african hotel room ?
Have you left your ATM card in such a local hotel ?
Do you know what a travel safe is ?

Cheers400.. Cash in Euro and KES, the other was the carges for indemnity for what I loss (camera, shaver, etc).

You think when there break open a hard-top case, then there have a really problem to break a travel safe or steal them from the room?

To take all the time your money, Cards, documents, etc. With you is not a real alternative.

To many stories about robbery an pickpocket.

So for my next trip I look for a secure place, but I think Kenya and Safe don't go together.

I think its easy to find a place with more Security then Kendas Arccade.

I learn my lesson and travel next time only with essential items.

So my question: How safe the apartments in Mwapa?

Maybe a arrive between Christmas and New year.

Himbersaft

Jbond
12-05-10, 17:47
Ok, this my Storie:

In January 2010 I stay 3 weeks in Kendas Arccade without any problems.

In August 2010 was my second Trip. My arrival was on Saturday morning,

So I check in at 11 pm in Kendas Arccade.

In the Afternoon 4:30 am I leave my Room to go downstairs to the Kendas Beergarden for a Meal. Here I meet same of my Friends for a Tusker. At 7:00am I go return to my room, to change my dress.

But when I arrive my Room the Door was open and the Light was on.

My 2 chase was break open and a lot of my personal property was steal.

All my cash, ATM Card, all electric equipment (shaver, camera, etc.), all travel documents, a couple of shirts, a couple of small bags, etc. So the snatcher live with a big packet.

Make a long Storie short, I stay the half Night by the Mtwapa Police make a Report but the investigation without any result.

The Police questioned the desk clerk, supervisor of the Hotel, Manager of the Hotel, Security Guard and other house person but all don't see anything!

My personal injury was over 1200.. Euro.

Super start for my Holidays!

So Kendas Arcade is a clean place with a good value for the money but is not a safe place.

Many Times the front desk is not occupied, you have to wait 5 – 10 minute that the Girl is return. Every person can catch the Keys, or can pass to the rooms.

The Security guards don't look at the Hotel, only for the people there makes trouble at the Beergarden or in the Gogo Bar.

HimbersaftI am sorry to hear you had such an awful experience.

I agree the security is extremely worrying.

The girls on reception are sometimes called in to help downstairs, leaving the place wde open. I refused to leave my key unattended and took it with me.

On one of my last night's just before going out and discussing the above topic the two girls there asked me to choose one or both to hide the sausage with! I thought they were joking at first or maybe compensation for the lack of security but they were deadly serious. The girls there good to chat and maybe have a joke with but nothing else, so I politely declined saying that the experience would be too much me!

Cunning Stunt
12-06-10, 03:33
So my question: How safe the apartments in Mwapa?


Luck Apartments, where I moved to after a unsatisfactory and uncomfortble night in Kendas Arcade, is in a compound with a gate that is secured at night. There is also a security guard although the night guard was a bit dozy!

In the apartment there is no safe but there are numerous places where you can hide your important documents. There was a lockable cupboard in the master bedroom.

Felt much safer and much more comfortable than Kendas, but more expensive at 2000 KES a night. There are much cheaper apartment option available but you get what you pay for and some of the others I looked at were a bit squallid.

Fun And Sun
12-06-10, 23:46
You think when there break open a hard-top case, then there have a really problem to break a travel safe or steal them from the room?

To take all the time your money, Cards, documents, etc. With you is not a real alternative.

To many stories about robbery an pickpocket.

So for my next trip I look for a secure place, but I think Kenya and Safe don't go together.

I think its easy to find a place with more Security then Kendas Arccade.

I learn my lesson and travel next time only with essential items.

Himbersaft

Yes I think that is totally essential when travelling in the third world. Only carry with you what you absolutely need and the things you can afford to lose.

Personally I am a big on splitting up my stuff:

Passport, emergency credit card, ideally in the hotel safe in the manager's office or well stuffed away in a locked suit case when this is not an option. This is the stuff that I only need to access at the end of my trip or if I get robbed, and hopefully not putting cash next to my passport will make it less interesting.

I then store about two days cash in one or two hard to find hiding places. (I have two days cash on me since sometimes when one withdraws cash repeatedly in a foreign country the bank cancels the card and it takes a while and a few cards to get it back to function and I need that cash to keep playing even if my cash card doesn't work for 48 hours.)

I have one days spending cash on me when I go out. For my ATM card, if there is no safe in the room then I will write down the number to call to cancel the card somewhere and then lock it in my biggest suit case.

I only travel with one ATM card and two credit cards, the other contents of my wallet I leave at home.

In countries where I have rented an apartment (which I haven't in Kenya) then I don't take one unless it has at least a decent lock box that I can camouflage a little.

Have stayed in two hotels in Bamburi: Kahama and Papillon. Kahama actually has very decent security and security patrols and a high wall. The wall around Papillon is a four foot fence so anyone can stroll onto the property from outside without going through reception. So for the hotel stayers I think Kahama is safer.

And one last point on apartments. One of the malayas I was with rented a gorgeous one bed room apartment in a new and safe building for 10,000 KES per month, sort of annoyed me since I was paying I think 3,750 KES per day to stay in my hotel room. Probably could have rented a freaking mansion instead!

Member #4148
12-11-10, 12:12
Alrighty then.

Have been through the forum with a fine-toothed comb regarding the relative merits of Mtwapa vs. Bamburi area, hard-boiled ex-pats vs. Pasty-faced tourists, rough dirty town vs. Built-up tourist venue, etc.

My druthers have always inclined toward the rough, dodgy and undeveloped. Even in Nairobi my loveliest times with lovelies were spent an average of 20 km outside the city.

Now I enjoy lazing around a pool, even a third-rate pool, and taking in some good books while on a mongering jaunt.

So my question is: without taking a matatu to the beach, is there any facility in Mtwapa proper (forgive the oxymoron) for a tourist to laze by a pool and drink a beer in between foraging for girls?

LustyHombre
12-12-10, 12:44
Alrighty then.

Have been through the forum with a fine-toothed comb regarding the relative merits of Mtwapa vs. Bamburi area, hard-boiled ex-pats vs. Pasty-faced tourists, rough dirty town vs. Built-up tourist venue, etc.

My druthers have always inclined toward the rough, dodgy and undeveloped. Even in Nairobi my loveliest times with lovelies were spent an average of 20 km outside the city.

Now I enjoy lazing around a pool, even a third-rate pool, and taking in some good books while on a mongering jaunt.

So my question is: without taking a matatu to the beach, is there any facility in Mtwapa proper (forgive the oxymoron) for a tourist to laze by a pool and drink a beer in between foraging for girls? Welcome to Mtwapa! That's your town if you like it rough and raw, dusty and dodgy!

Lots of places to have a beer in between but a pool to relax by? I doubt it. Except if you go a bit upscale and book for at least a month and are prepared to spend something like 80 k or so. In that case I'd suggest you check out Claudio's Appartments right at the mouth of Mtwapa Creek (he has a very pretty daughter! 19 or so and EXTREMELY hot and curious) or Villa Annchen.

Himbersaft
12-12-10, 21:44
Cunning Stunt,

Fun And Sun,

Thanks for the good information.

I have for the first two nights the hotel Kumbe reserved, then I look for an appartment.

Himbersaft
12-12-10, 21:46
Alrighty then.

Have been through the forum with a fine-toothed comb regarding the relative merits of Mtwapa vs. Bamburi area, hard-boiled ex-pats vs. Pasty-faced tourists, rough dirty town vs. Built-up tourist venue, etc.

My druthers have always inclined toward the rough, dodgy and undeveloped. Even in Nairobi my loveliest times with lovelies were spent an average of 20 km outside the city.

Now I enjoy lazing around a pool, even a third-rate pool, and taking in some good books while on a mongering jaunt.

So my question is: without taking a matatu to the beach, is there any facility in Mtwapa proper (forgive the oxymoron) for a tourist to laze by a pool and drink a beer in between foraging for girls? Hibiskus Lodge have a pool, but is often fully booked.

Bide59
12-13-10, 09:59
Alrighty then.

Have been through the forum with a fine-toothed comb regarding the relative merits of Mtwapa vs. Bamburi area, hard-boiled ex-pats vs. Pasty-faced tourists, rough dirty town vs. Built-up tourist venue, etc.

My druthers have always inclined toward the rough, dodgy and undeveloped. Even in Nairobi my loveliest times with lovelies were spent an average of 20 km outside the city.

Now I enjoy lazing around a pool, even a third-rate pool, and taking in some good books while on a mongering jaunt.

So my question is: without taking a matatu to the beach, is there any facility in Mtwapa proper (forgive the oxymoron) for a tourist to laze by a pool and drink a beer in between foraging for girls? Kerstins Apartment has pool and decent rooms according to my research. 1000KES a night. Chose not to stay there though, decided for the Kendas Ocean view instead. Bit more expensive but I heard it's quiter and closer to the beach.

Willyboy
12-15-10, 13:48
Greetings Everyone,

I deleted this "report" because the text contained so many strange abbreviations, misspelled words and local slang that it was literally unreadable. It was so bad that the only way I can describe it was that it looked like English translated into Chinese, then translated back to English, with every third letter subsequently deleted.

Thanks,

Jackson

Willyboy
12-15-10, 13:50
Very near Casablanca. One man from Belgium did open new pub. Name BONJOIR CAFE. Nice place, but 3 floor high.

Willyboy
12-15-10, 13:55
Meet this girl in Afro. Only together 7pm to 10am. Every day same situation. Meeting 7pm, ate togetter, drink in Casablanca or Tembo. Giving her every day 1000 or 1500ksh. Notting wrong about this. I smile with adder mzungus 5000ksh / night. Learn how to handling in Kenya.

Bushwackerd
12-15-10, 20:06
Hi Guys, some of you might know me from the Pattaya Secrets forum with the same username but fancy a change of colour.

Firstly, I hope I am posting in the right place, as this is my first post on the forum?

Anyway, I will be visiting Bamburi beach in June / July and staying in the Sarova Whitesands hoteland would like any info on the beach sceene and nightclub action? I hear there are many girls available along the beach, offering Massages etc, but have they got huts on the beach or are you taken somewhere else?

Also, is there any action in the big clubs? I was told that in the Tembo that you often see people getting 'close' in around the garden area, including the white ladies that might be visiting also?

Any information would be greatfullu received

Expat Kenya
12-16-10, 02:32
Greetings Everyone,

I deleted this "report" because the text contained so many strange abbreviations, misspelled words and local slang that it was literally unreadable. It was so bad that the only way I can describe it was that it looked like English translated into Chinese, then translated back to English, with every third letter subsequently deleted.

Thanks,

JacksonWillyboy was saying.

When girls you ask for drinks in nightclubs, the barman gives them a bottle of water in a beer bottle or smirnoff ice bottle.

The mzungu pays, lets say kes 150, the girl keeps kes 100, the barman gets 50 bob.

At Bamburi Big Tree we saw a fresh mzungu who paid kes 1700 (some 17 euro) for one bottle of Picana fruit juice without receipt, without complaint!

We were wondering how Kenyans look at us stupid mzungus, afraid and accepting anything we are told.

Furthermore, Willyboy stuck to a decent well groomed respectable and attractive working lady, who kept him company and fucked his balls of for an appreciation of 1000 shilling per night, excluding drinks and food.

Money was not an issue for her, thats how sweet Kenya can be!

LustyHombre
12-16-10, 04:27
Hi Guys, some of you might know me from the Pattaya Secrets forum with the same username but fancy a change of colour.

Firstly, I hope I am posting in the right place, as this is my first post on the forum?

Anyway, I will be visiting Bamburi beach in June / July and staying in the Sarova Whitesands hoteland would like any info on the beach sceene and nightclub action? I hear there are many girls available along the beach, offering Massages etc, but have they got huts on the beach or are you taken somewhere else?

Also, is there any action in the big clubs? I was told that in the Tembo that you often see people getting 'close' in around the garden area, including the white ladies that might be visiting also?

Any information would be greatfullu received1) Welcome to Mombasa!

2) Whitesands is the biggest hotel on Bamburi Beach and very family-oriented. With other words : you'll get many tongues wagging if you are seen with a different girl every day On the other hand : June is low season and they may be grateful for your booking nevertheless. Lastly, they consider themselves 5 star and, not only in my opinion, are 3 1/2 or so at best. If you want real 5 star amenities, then Serena Beach is the only one on the North Coast.

3) The Tourist Police keep WG's off the beach these days, meaning that the massage girls trolling the beaches are (mostly, I guess) just that. Some have little shacks right on the beach (low milage, but safe in terms of personal security) whereas the milage increases if she has an off-beach "parlor", but you have to make sure that nobody rifles thru your stuff whle you are otherwise occupied.

4) Tembo, Casuarina etc plus tens of smaller clubs are waiting for you. June is off-season, meaning all the sharks are out there cruising and getting very desperate with very little to feed on; best time for a seasoned monger. You won't have much competition either in early Jul, but everything starts filling to capacity by mid month, I. E. Best time to go to France or Germany then where only the poor moneyless locals are left behind.

MarioMarengo
12-16-10, 10:27
Meet this girl in Afro. Only together 7pm to 10am. Every day same situation. Meeting 7pm, ate togetter, drink in Casablanca or Tembo. Giving her every day 1000 or 1500ksh. Notting wrong about this. I smile with adder mzungus 5000ksh / night. Learn how to handling in Kenya.Please show us a picture of this lady

Bushwackerd
12-16-10, 10:46
1) Welcome to Mombasa!

2) Whitesands is the biggest hotel on Bamburi Beach and very family-oriented. With other words : you'll get many tongues wagging if you are seen with a different girl every day On the other hand : June is low season and they may be grateful for your booking nevertheless. Lastly, they consider themselves 5 star and, not only in my opinion, are 3 1/2 or so at best. If you want real 5 star amenities, then Serena Beach is the only one on the North Coast.

3) The Tourist Police keep WG's off the beach these days, meaning that the massage girls trolling the beaches are (mostly, I guess) just that. Some have little shacks right on the beach (low milage, but safe in terms of personal security) whereas the milage increases if she has an off-beach "parlor", but you have to make sure that nobody rifles thru your stuff whle you are otherwise occupied.

4) Tembo, Casuarina etc plus tens of smaller clubs are waiting for you. June is off-season, meaning all the sharks are out there cruising and getting very desperate with very little to feed on; best time for a seasoned monger. You won't have much competition either in early Jul, but everything starts filling to capacity by mid month, I. E. Best time to go to France or Germany then where only the poor moneyless locals are left behind. Hi Lustyhombre,

Thank you for all your advice on my question, you have certainly wetted my appitite for my visit?

Your info on the hotels was interesting, which I will have to look into, as I chose the Whitesands due to its location. Not sure about the Serena, as not sure of it's location but will have a look as you said it was on the north coast.

I will be booking in the January Sales, so am hoping to get a good deal, where the Serena might be the same price as the Whitesands if they are all trying to get bussiness at that time of the year?

Sounds like I will need to get into 'shape' as I will have to fight them off if I go into a club or bar. Sounds like I am going to visit at the right time, which to be honest was more through luck and times I could visit. Still, lots of things to organise and start looking forward to.

Any other advice would be greatfully received, even through a message. It is forums like these that make visiting abroad far less stressful, with detailed inside information.

Thanks once again.

BushwackerD

Member #4178
12-19-10, 11:19
Hi.

I am at mtwapa and there is a gang from rwanda that operate here at the last month.

More then 25 cases of breaking to hotels and stealing everthing.

I am the last case. The police chief has been appointed a task fors to that. And they trying to hunt them.

The gung has 4 guys and a girl. After a muzungu has been seen talking he follow by them. Then the woman cheak.

In to the hotel and pay for one night. After the tourist leaves his room another guy comes to the hotel with a master key. After 5 minutes hey cheek out.

The kenya cheif of police order to find them so this is very critical issue because it happens Evey few day.

Don't come to mtwapa and never leave anything in the room. Remember the gang are cheeking in as a normal guest.

Please ask the local tourist police about it. The hotel will say nothing in order not to loss the costomers.

I hope to get back my stuff.

JP

Gladiator
12-19-10, 17:33
I've just read the report on the break-in at the Kendas Arcade hotel, posted a few weeks ago; I've stayed there 2 weeks before with no issues, a few years ago, but I did notice that the security level left much to be desired, so even though I didn't have any problems I am not really surprised by that report.

Jbond
12-19-10, 19:42
Hi.

I am at mtwapa and there is a gang from rwanda that operate here at the last month.

More then 25 cases of breaking to hotels and stealing everthing.

I am the last case. The police chief has been appointed a task fors to that. And they trying to hunt them.

The gung has 4 guys and a girl. After a muzungu has been seen talking he follow by them. Then the woman cheak.

In to the hotel and pay for one night. After the tourist leaves his room another guy comes to the hotel with a master key. After 5 minutes hey cheek out.

The kenya cheif of police order to find them so this is very critical issue because it happens Evey few day.

Don't come to mtwapa and never leave anything in the room. Remember the gang are cheeking in as a normal guest.

Please ask the local tourist police about it. The hotel will say nothing in order not to loss the costomers.

I hope to get back my stuff.

JP

Jbond
12-19-10, 19:53
Hi.

I am at mtwapa and there is a gang from rwanda that operate here at the last month.

More then 25 cases of breaking to hotels and stealing everthing.

I am the last case. The police chief has been appointed a task fors to that. And they trying to hunt them.

The gung has 4 guys and a girl. After a muzungu has been seen talking he follow by them. Then the woman cheak.

In to the hotel and pay for one night. After the tourist leaves his room another guy comes to the hotel with a master key. After 5 minutes hey cheek out.

The kenya cheif of police order to find them so this is very critical issue because it happens Evey few day.

Don't come to mtwapa and never leave anything in the room. Remember the gang are cheeking in as a normal guest.

Please ask the local tourist police about it. The hotel will say nothing in order not to loss the costomers.

I hope to get back my stuff.

JPSorry to hear about your experience. Could you be clearer. So the girl talks to the mzungu and then they follow him to his hotel and check in. I would find it strange if I was talking to a girl and the next minute she is checked in the same hotel as me with her buddies and surely they wouldn't have access to a master key. How do they get the master key? Surely if it has happend so many times they would recognise the gang by now. It sounds more like an inside job to me. Everyone is right, the security is diabolical at Kendas. When I have been there and no one is in reception I hang on to the key. I am worried about using Kendas Arcade again after your experience.

Jbond
12-19-10, 20:03
Willyboy was saying.

When girls you ask for drinks in nightclubs, the barman gives them a bottle of water in a beer bottle or smirnoff ice bottle.

The mzungu pays, lets say kes 150, the girl keeps kes 100, the barman gets 50 bob.

At Bamburi Big Tree we saw a fresh mzungu who paid kes 1700 (some 17 euro) for one bottle of Picana fruit juice without receipt, without complaint!

We were wondering how Kenyans look at us stupid mzungus, afraid and accepting anything we are told.

Furthermore, Willyboy stuck to a decent well groomed respectable and attractive working lady, who kept him company and fucked his balls of for an appreciation of 1000 shilling per night, excluding drinks and food.

Money was not an issue for her, thats how sweet Kenya can be!

Jbond
12-19-10, 20:19
Willyboy was saying.

When girls you ask for drinks in nightclubs, the barman gives them a bottle of water in a beer bottle or smirnoff ice bottle.

The mzungu pays, lets say kes 150, the girl keeps kes 100, the barman gets 50 bob.

At Bamburi Big Tree we saw a fresh mzungu who paid kes 1700 (some 17 euro) for one bottle of Picana fruit juice without receipt, without complaint!

We were wondering how Kenyans look at us stupid mzungus, afraid and accepting anything we are told.

Furthermore, Willyboy stuck to a decent well groomed respectable and attractive working lady, who kept him.

Company and fucked his balls of for an appreciation of 1000 shilling per night, excluding drinks and food.

Money was not an issue for her, thats how sweet Kenya can be! Well my golden rule is unless I am going to fuck the girl, I don't give into the hundreds of girls that ask for a beer and the beer is usually opened in front of me. I hate the way most of these girls want to take advantage and no lack of manners asking a guy who you have never met before nor likely to see again for a drink. I always add that it is for the mzungu to offer to buy a drink not for one of these girls to forcefully demand a drink. Poor, rich, educated or not you can tell if the girl is worth taking on with regards this point alone. Too many mzungus blindly buy drinks for these girls fueling their disrespect for us fellow hunters. Their is a racket going on in Casaurina with some of the waiters and the girls for example. I was sitting there at the beginning of the evening and a girl came and sit with me at my table followed by a waiter as soon as she uttered the word Hello, the waiter was trying to force me to buy her a drink.

I didn't know her, like her or even uttered a word to her. I let my view be known to them and the manager.

Expat Kenya
12-19-10, 21:55
Hi.

I am at mtwapa and there is a gang from rwanda that operate here at the last month.

More then 25 cases of breaking to hotels and stealing everthing.

I am the last case. The police chief has been appointed a task fors to that. And they trying to hunt them.

The gung has 4 guys and a girl. After a muzungu has been seen talking he follow by them. Then the woman cheak.

In to the hotel and pay for one night. After the tourist leaves his room another guy comes to the hotel with a master key. After 5 minutes hey cheek out.

The kenya cheif of police order to find them so this is very critical issue because it happens Evey few day.

Don't come to mtwapa and never leave anything in the room. Remember the gang are cheeking in as a normal guest.

Please ask the local tourist police about it. The hotel will say nothing in order not to loss the costomers.

I hope to get back my stuff.

JPJP, this can happen anywhere on coast and it is not new. Compared to other counties where prostitution is high, coast is relatively safe to be, did you get injured? Lets hope not!

Currently Mtwapa is overloaded with mzungus and almost all hostels are full, imagine how many rooms there are here, and only every few days there is one of those thefts by this gang.

First, in Mtwapa are no secured beach hotels as in Bamburi, Shanzu etc, you pay less, unmotivated security lives on kes 4000 a month, and if you insist to bring large amounts of money, cameras, jewelery, AND fuck many girls during your holiday, choose an hotel accordingly like white sands. ALWAYS use a hotel safe for Christ sake!

Second, how comes men are involved when you meet a girl to bring to a hotel? When men follow you (boyfriend, brother, gang member, do you know them?) , or the girl starts to make many last minute phone calls, get rid of her there and than. You pay, she plays, you'll pay for her time so don't entertain nonsense guys.

Third, pick your own taxi when you come from a club, don't follow the girls advise, yes she insists certain taxis because she's getting a commission later, but these taxi drivers know too much, and that CAN be risky! When I am at a strange place, I pick a car, not a driver, I look if the fuel tank is not too low, than when the driver is OK too, thats my taxi!

Fourth, in Mtwapa you do not have to leave your hotel key anywhere, take it with you, insist! Watch what you're talking with anyone!

To the girls, to taxi drivers, to the barman, to others in a club. Any information you give on what you bring to Kenya, where you stay, room numbers, even your real name and which country you are from CAN be a risk.

At the reception: " I am looking for Mr so and so from Uk, he's about 35 years old, he carried this and this, can I see if he's in his room, room number 9?" (gives 100 shilling to the receptionist)"yes you can".

Additional, have a small talk to the guards on duty, give them something small like 100 shilling for soda or lunch, he'll look after you and your room much better!

When you report stolen things to the tourist police, give them like 500 shilling when talking, he'll give you great service and a fantastic statement to claim your lost items (and more) for your insurance.

Member #4178
12-20-10, 09:17
Sorry if I was unclear here it is.

Its not about a girl you know or meet.

1. The gang has an observer.

2. A decent woman cheak in to the same hotel base on the observer info.

3. The observer call the woman when the muzungu leave the hotel.

4. Another man come to the hotel with a master key to join the woman.

5. They take all the things.

6. The cheak out.

7. They left my passport and the eticket out of the hotel on the ground.

3 of the gang members was already arrested but the woman with my stuff not yet.

The task foce has found the frist lead with mi since the observer took beers in a bar next to my hotel.

The mombasa police is extremely effective because they pressed by the police commissioner.

We has break the observer in less then 20 minutes using methods seen only in the horror movies. But he start to sing like bird.

PLEASE do not leave nothing in the room. Any room.

JP

Jbond
12-20-10, 20:17
JP, this can happen anywhere on coast and it is not new. Compared to other counties where prostitution is high, coast is relatively safe to be, did you get injured? Lets hope not!

Currently Mtwapa is overloaded with mzungus and almost all hostels are full, imagine how many rooms there are here, and only every few days there is one of those thefts by this gang.

First, in Mtwapa are no secured beach hotels as in Bamburi, Shanzu etc, you pay less, unmotivated security lives on kes 4000 a month, and if you insist to bring large amounts of money, cameras, jewelery, AND fuck many girls during your holiday, choose an hotel accordingly like white sands. ALWAYS use a hotel safe for Christ sake!

Second, how comes men are involved when you meet a girl to bring to a hotel? When men follow you (boyfriend, brother, gang member, do you know them?) , or the girl starts to make many last minute phone calls, get rid of her there and than. You pay, she plays, you'll pay for her time so don't entertain nonsense guys.

One of the working girls told me that the night staff are crooks at Whitesands. She went there with a Mzungu by the time he fnished paying all the night staff off he had parted with a huge amount of shillings. What made it worse, when she left the room early morning one of the managers forced her to give over most of the money she had been given by the mzungu or the alternative to be handed over to the police under some false charge! Look at the end of the day there is no guarantee wherever you are. Whenever I talk about these things with people in Kenya they always say'Well you know this is Africa'!

Third, pick your own taxi when you come from a club, don't follow the girls advise, yes she insists certain taxis because she's getting a commission later, but these taxi drivers know too much, and that CAN be risky! When I am at a strange place, I pick a car, not a driver, I look if the fuel tank is not too low, than when the driver is OK too, thats my taxi!

Fourth, in Mtwapa you do not have to leave your hotel key anywhere, take it with you, insist! Watch what you're talking with anyone!

To the girls, to taxi drivers, to the barman, to others in a club. Any information you give on what you bring to Kenya, where you stay, room numbers, even your real name and which country you are from CAN be a risk.

At the reception: " I am looking for Mr so and so from Uk, he's about 35 years old, he carried this and this, can I see if he's in his room, room number 9?" (gives 100 shilling to the receptionist)"yes you can".

Additional, have a small talk to the guards on duty, give them something small like 100 shilling for soda or lunch, he'll look after you and your room much better!

When you report stolen things to the tourist police, give them like 500 shilling when talking, he'll give you great service and a fantastic statement to claim your lost items (and more) for your insurance.

Tonkazan
12-20-10, 20:55
Well my golden rule is unless I am going to fuck the girl, I don't give into the hundreds of girls that ask for a beer and the beer is usually opened in front of me. I hate the way most of these girls want to take advantage and no lack of manners asking a guy who you have never met before nor likely to see again for a drink. I always add that it is for the mzungu to offer to buy a drink not for one of these girls to forcefully demand a drink. Poor, rich, educated or not you can tell if the girl is worth taking on with regards this point alone. Too many mzungus blindly buy drinks for these girls fueling their disrespect for us fellow hunters. Their is a racket going on in Casaurina with some of the waiters and the girls for example. I was sitting there at the beginning of the evening and a girl came and sit with me at my table followed by a waiter as soon as she uttered the word Hello, the waiter was trying to force me to buy her a drink.

I didn't know her, like her or even uttered a word to her. I let my view be known to them and the manager. I totally agree with you. I have no problem buying a girl a drink, if I like her, and plan to fuck her. But nobody should be forced to buy drinks if you don't want to. I used to face the same requests at Casablanca, but they would walk away if I ignored them. Two months back, some girl came to my table and sat, uninvited, and asked for a drink. As usual, I ignored her. She became persistent and did not want to leave me alone. When I got tired of her nonsense, I called the waiter and asked him to get rid of her, otherwise I would leave. She was chased away, and warned to stay away from me. Since then, I have not seen any girls coming to my table, unless invited. Sometimes, you have to be tough to get some respect.

Jbond
12-21-10, 10:54
One of the working girls told me that the night staff are crooks at Whitesands as well. She went there with a Mzungu, by the time he finished paying off all the night staff, he had parted with a huge amount of shillings on top of his very expensive room rate. What made it worse, when she left the room early morning one of the managers forced her to give over most of the money she had been given by the mzungu or face the alternative to be handed over to the police under some false charges! Look at the end of the day there is no guarantee wherever you are. Whenever I talk about these things with people in Kenya they always say'Well you know this is Africa'!

Fun And Sun
12-21-10, 23:13
Second, how comes men are involved when you meet a girl to bring to a hotel? When men follow you (boyfriend, brother, gang member, do you know them?) , or the girl starts to make many last minute phone calls, get rid of her there and than. You pay, she plays, you'll pay for her time so don't entertain nonsense guys.

Third, pick your own taxi when you come from a club, don't follow the girls advise, yes she insists certain taxis because she's getting a commission later, but these taxi drivers know too much, and that CAN be risky! When I am at a strange place, I pick a car, not a driver, I look if the fuel tank is not too low, than when the driver is OK too, thats my taxi!

To the girls, to taxi drivers, to the barman, to others in a club. Any information you give on what you bring to Kenya, where you stay, room numbers, even your real name and which country you are from CAN be a risk.

Additional, have a small talk to the guards on duty, give them something small like 100 shilling for soda or lunch, he'll look after you and your room much better!

When you report stolen things to the tourist police, give them like 500 shilling when talking, he'll give you great service and a fantastic statement to claim your lost items (and more) for your insurance. This is some really good advice Expat. There is no reason for anyone to know where you are staying, what your real name is (I always use a mongering nom de guerre) , or how long you are staying for. I always say that I am around for several weeks since that makes for better service from the girls since chances of repeat business go up they think and then if they plan to rob me or set me up they will think they have time.

I also try not to come across as an easy and lucrative target. This doesn't mean not enjoying myself, but it's helpful not to be the drunkest and loudest person in the bar. Criminals look for easy targets, and there are plenty of drunk and dumb mzungus staggering around at Tembo etc. It is fine to wear nice and clean clothes, but don't flash your wealth by wearing designer stuff when you go out. Don't tell people what car you drive at home, how much money you make, how much your hotel costs per night, how much your airplane ticket cost or things like that. You really don't need to impress a malaya for her to go with you so just say you work at some pretty menial and low paid job. Don't go around handing out your business card to people and malayas either, am amazed by the number of mongerers I have seen doing this.

Also, don't tell anyone that you are there by yourself. Tell them that your friends went somewhere with their African girlfriends that night if you are asked.

Obviously, never, ever tell anyone that this is your first trip to Africa or to Kenya. That is not a social question, that is the girl / the driver / the receptionist, or whomever trying to gauge if you are naive so they can over charge you at best or try to pull a bigger scam or even set you up for robbery at worst.

Fun And Sun
12-21-10, 23:32
Compared to some other places in Africa and South America and Carribean, I actually felt pretty safe in Mombasa so don't want to exaggerate the dangers by posting this, but think that it is a good cautionary tale.

One thing that freaks me out whenever I monger is getting my drink spiked. Not only for the reason that it would [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me of to wake up in the afternoon the next day with a terrible head ache and my stuff stolen, but that the idea of some malaya not knowing what she is doing could actually put too much of the knock out drug in the drink and cause permanent health damage or maybe even death.

Most Mombasa places are pretty good about opening your beer in front of you, and if you are away from the table then they leave the drink with the bottle cap on until you return and then open it for you.

I think that the best defense strategy is to not look like an easy and lucrative target and to always keep an eye on your drink and even taking it to the bath room with you if nature calls. Anyway, this tale, told to me by a malaya, really freaked me out so thought that I would post it as a word of caution as it is a pretty clever scam.

I thought that it would be funny to see where this one cute little Kenyan lady lived, so I suggested that she cook me dinner one evening. Will leave details for my still to be written trip report, but it was a pretty good experience.

However, she told me that the girl that rented the room next to her needed to stay in her room all day since an angry mzungu was looking for her. The reason that the mzungu was angry:

Basically this girl (that I didn't see) goes to Casaurina every now and then, but not to pick up mzungus, she looks to spike their drinks and rob them instead. Basically her scam is as follows: She spots a mzungu sitting by himself and gets his attention, eventually sitting down and talking to him and waiting for him to be interested enough to order her a drink. The drink she then gets is some sort of exotic Kenyan fruit punch with a bit of alcohol and decorated with parasols etc so it looks really nice and delicious. She takes a few sips from the drink, then she spikes it. She then pretends to take a sip from it, and offers the mzungu a taste before putting it down. The mzungu, having just seen her drink from it, assumes that there is no problem with it, takes a sip, then after a little while passes out. If the mzungu declines the drink then after a little while her friend will bump her so that she spills the drink and she tries it again with someone else instead.

This girl needed to hide for a few days since she had just robbed a mzungu of his phone, watch, wallet etc and he was walking around Mtwapa looking for her, but she knew which hotel he was staying at and from the helpful hotel staff when he was supposed to fly back home so only needed to stay home for another few days.

Not trying to freak people out, but be careful out there.

Jbond
12-22-10, 12:32
Compared to some other places in Africa and South America and Carribean, I actually felt pretty safe in Mombasa so don't want to exaggerate the dangers by posting this, but think that it is a good cautionary tale.

One thing that freaks me out whenever I monger is getting my drink spiked. Not only for the reason that it would [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me of to wake up in the afternoon the next day with a terrible head ache and my stuff stolen, but that the idea of some malaya not knowing what she is doing could actually put too much of the knock out drug in the drink and cause permanent health damage or maybe even death.

Most Mombasa places are pretty good about opening your beer in front of you, and if you are away from the table then they leave the drink with the bottle cap on until you return and then open it for you. I think that the best defense strategy is to not look like an easy and lucrative target and to always keep an eye on your drink and even taking it to the bath room with you if nature calls. Anyway, this tale, told to me by a malaya, really freaked me out so thought that I would post it as a word of caution as it is a pretty clever scam.

I thought that it would be funny to see where this one cute little Kenyan lady lived, so I suggested that she cook me dinner one evening. Will leave details for my still to be written trip report, but it was a pretty good experience.

However, she told me that the girl that rented the room next to her needed to stay in her room all day since an angry mzungu was looking for her. The reason that the mzungu was angry:

Basically this girl (that I didn't see) goes to Casaurina every now and then, but not to pick up mzungus, she looks to spike their drinks and rob them instead. Basically her scam is as follows: She spots a mzungu sitting by himself and gets his attention, eventually sitting down and talking to him and waiting for him to be interested enough to order her a drink. The drink she then gets is some sort of exotic Kenyan fruit punch with a bit of alcohol and decorated with parasols etc so it looks really nice and delicious. She takes a few sips from the drink, then she spikes it. She then pretends to take a sip from it, and offers the mzungu a taste before putting it down. The mzungu, having just seen her drink from it, assumes that there is no problem with it, takes a sip, then after a little while passes out. If the mzungu declines the drink then after a little while her friend will bump her so that she spills the drink and she tries it again with someone else instead.

This girl needed to hide for a few days since she had just robbed a mzungu of his phone, watch, wallet etc and he was walking around Mtwapa looking for her, but she knew which hotel he was staying at and from the helpful hotel staff when he was supposed to fly back home so only needed to stay home for another few days.

Not trying to freak people out, but be careful out there.Well I don't know what everyone else thinks but this girl is a menace. A danger to us fellow hunters and gives the girls, her friends, mtwapa and Kenya a bad name. Apart from the fact that she would also try to do this without hesitation to me or my friends. If she is contemplating this she would stoop at nothing, what next murder. One of the very few occasions in my life, I would actively hand somebody into the police and good riddance! I would also say her plan is pretty crazy. The Mzungu is more likely to pass out everywhere but his hotel room and could end up killing him if he is not in the best of health.

Expat Kenya
12-22-10, 22:27
The Mzungu is more likely to pass out everywhere but his hotel room and could end up killing him if he is not in the best of health.Did you know that also girls get killed on their hotel rooms by mzungus nowadays? Man, most of us just want to enjoy a little bit, treat and and pay fairly. These mzungus are spoiling the atmosphere and our marked too.


This is some really good advice Expat. There is no reason for anyone to know where you are staying, what your real name is (I always use a mongering nom de guerre) , or how long you are staying for. I always say that I am around for several weeks since that makes for better service from the girls since chances of repeat business go up they think and then if they plan to rob me or set me up they will think they have time.

I also try not to come across as an easy and lucrative target. This doesn't mean not enjoying myself, but it's helpful not to be the drunkest and loudest person in the bar. Criminals look for easy targets, and there are plenty of drunk and dumb mzungus staggering around at Tembo etc. It is fine to wear nice and clean clothes, but don't flash your wealth by wearing designer stuff when you go out. Don't tell people what car you drive at home, how much money you make, how much your hotel costs per night, how much your airplane ticket cost or things like that. You really don't need to impress a malaya for her to go with you so just say you work at some pretty menial and low paid job. Don't go around handing out your business card to people and malayas either, am amazed by the number of mongerers I have seen doing this.

Also, don't tell anyone that you are there by yourself. Tell them that your friends went somewhere with their African girlfriends that night if you are asked.

Obviously, never, ever tell anyone that this is your first trip to Africa or to Kenya. That is not a social question, that is the girl / the driver / the receptionist, or whomever trying to gauge if you are naive so they can over charge you at best or try to pull a bigger scam or even set you up for robbery at worst. I can't add another word! Be careful, and we all enjoy the safety of coast for a long long time.

Actually, it is this same secretiveness thats in the culture of most people here, so don't being embarrassed about it.

Jbond
12-23-10, 11:44
Did you know that also girls get killed on their hotel rooms by mzungus nowadays? Man, most of us just want to enjoy a little bit, treat and and pay fairly. These mzungus are spoiling the atmosphere and our marked too.

I can't add another word! Be careful, and we all enjoy the safety of coast for a long long time.

Actually, it is this same secretiveness thats in the culture of most people here, so don't being embarrassed about it. I am sorry but two wrongs do not make a right. Her actions are totally deplorable and should be condemned and not justified because of the notion this is retribution for any Mzungu misdeeds in the past. At the end of the day, this is not right, a crime in every country in the world pure and simple, if you look at it in a totally impartial way. I am surprised you are trying to excuse this and yes my friends and I pay, treat the girls well and call alot of them our friends.

I would also like to apply this to most of us fellow hunters who use ISG. From your previous comments you seem to have a rather poor view of all of us but seem to be more comfortable with excusing and the mindset of the above mentioned working girl.

Jbond
12-23-10, 11:49
One of the working girls told me that the night staff are crooks at Whitesands as well. She went there with a Mzungu, by the time he finished paying off all the night staff, he had parted with a huge amount of shillings on top of his very expensive room rate. What made it worse, when she left the room early morning one of the managers forced her to give over most of the money she had been given by the mzungu or face the alternative to be handed over to the police under some false charges! Look at the end of the day there is no guarantee wherever you are. Whenever I talk about these things with people in Kenya they always say'Well you know this is Africa'!

Expat Kenya
12-23-10, 16:26
I am sorry but two wrongs do not make a right. Her actions are totally deplorable and should be condemned and not justified because of the notion this is retribution for any Mzungu misdeeds in the past. At the end of the day, this is not right, a crime in every country in the world pure and simple, if you look at it in a totally impartial way. I am surprised you are trying to excuse this and yes my friends and I pay, treat the girls well and call alot of them our friends.Where did I try to excuse this? Its just an insight about what is going on.

We agree on this one with you JB, that girl was dead wrong, no excuse, and good it is posted!


I would also like to apply this to most of us fellow hunters who use ISG. From your previous comments you seem to have a rather poor view of all of us but seem to be more comfortable with excusing and the mindset of the above mentioned working girl.I am not here to make friends, just to inform JB. My friends do not live on a forum. Finally there is some valuable info on here about safety, mindsets of certain girls and so on. To assume about someone you never met is rather poor, don't you think?

Fun And Sun
12-24-10, 01:18
Well I don't know what everyone else thinks but this girl is a menace. A danger to us fellow hunters and gives the girls, her friends, mtwapa and Kenya a bad name. Apart from the fact that she would also try to do this without hesitation to me or my friends. If she is contemplating this she would stoop at nothing, what next murder. One of the very few occasions in my life, I would actively hand somebody into the police and good riddance! I would also say her plan is pretty crazy. The Mzungu is more likely to pass out everywhere but his hotel room and could end up killing him if he is not in the best of health.I don't know what knock out drug she uses, but I think that some of them have the initial effect of making you act like you are very drunk before you slip into unconsciousness and that, I guess, is when she can helpfully look like she is taking you back to your hotel if you've fallen victim to her.

These knock out drugs scare me a lot. Imagine how strong the mix would need to be in order for just a sip to of the drink to knock you out, what if you like the drink and down half of it or if you have a heart condition or similar. Crazy.

Well, like they say in all guide books, never accept drinks, cigarettes, chewing gum, candy, food, etc from people that you don't know!

Fun And Sun
12-24-10, 01:28
Did you know that also girls get killed on their hotel rooms by mzungus nowadays? Man, most of us just want to enjoy a little bit, treat and and pay fairly. These mzungus are spoiling the atmosphere and our marked too.

I can't add another word! Be careful, and we all enjoy the safety of coast for a long long time.

Actually, it is this same secretiveness thats in the culture of most people here, so don't being embarrassed about it. I always try not to be arsy about it, but have no qualms about not being truthful with my answers.

Q: What hotel do you stay at?

A: Forgot the name, it's that way and it has a big white sign.

Q: What do you do for work?

A: I am a security guard at a small factory.

Q: Is this your first time here?

A: No, I really like Africa so have travelled a lot in Africa.

Q: How much was your plane ticket here?

A: I forgot, but I got a really good deal.

Q: How long are you staying here for?

A: Am here for another three and a half weeks.

Q: Are you here by yourself?

A: No, one of my friends is here with me, but he went out with his Kenyan girlfriend but they might come by here later tonight. I wish that I could find a pretty Kenyan girlfriend like he has.

I try to avoid the girls that are in large groups also as a general rule when travelling to potentially dangerous destinations and also move about the venue a bit to see how people interact with each other. Once I have selected a "target" I observe her for a while before going up to her or signalling her to come over.

Plus, obviously, I avoid girls that are drunk or act weirdly and the ones that use drugs. Recognising a person that is high is pretty easy. Their eyes are more watery and pupils a lot larger than someone that isn't high.

This all being said, I feel very safe in Bamburi, but I try to be careful always without it reducing the amount of fun that I have too much.

S2kylib
12-27-10, 10:35
&12615; clubs.

Casablanca is busy everynight. Full of girls. But too much 'pro' action.

Just one step out side, there is a small inn for short timers. So the girls' mind is oriented to 'quicky'. And taxi fare is too expensive. From bamburi beach, it takes 2000ks for go and back.

Casurina is also everynight busy. But it is getting full too late. After midnight.

And the quality is not so good.

Bobs bar has live band on Thursday night. Many couples there. But not so many pros. I liked this place for watching football. There is an airconditioned area inside.

Florida is too far from bamburi. Taxi drivers ask 1300 for one way.

Most of the guests are arabic. And the girls are not beautiful.

The best is tembo on Friday night-'ladies night'. Hundreds of girls in every shape.

Entrance fee is 200 for men. Peak time is 12:00.

&12615; day time action.

Not much actions. On the beach, there are several girls walk in day time and also at some bars like big tree. But not so many as expected. And they don't approach you. So you have to talk to them frist.

The situation is same as mtwapa. Around kendas area, only a few girls walk in day time looking for 'customers'

Tonkazan
12-28-10, 21:24
I don't know what knock out drug she uses, but I think that some of them have the initial effect of making you act like you are very drunk before you slip into unconsciousness and that, I guess, is when she can helpfully look like she is taking you back to your hotel if you've fallen victim to her.

These knock out drugs scare me a lot. Imagine how strong the mix would need to be in order for just a sip to of the drink to knock you out, what if you like the drink and down half of it or if you have a heart condition or similar. Crazy.

Well, like they say in all guide books, never accept drinks, cigarettes, chewing gum, candy, food, etc from people that you don't know! From what I have been told, they use either Aspirin or Piriton, or a combination of both. Both drugs are available over the counter at any chemist shop, for one shilling a tablet. So, a couple of shillings will be enough for the job.

If you are in good health, you will wake up hours later with a big hangover. But, if you have a heart problem or others like allergies, you could have a serious problem. Crazy, but some girls are just greedy and want to steal instead of working for the money. The girls target anyone they think has money, not just mzungus. It happened to me once. I lost my phone, and some money. Not a pleasant experience!

Woef Woef
12-28-10, 23:25
Hello, all,

First of all I want to thank all poster who contributed to this Mombasa forum. Before I left to Mombasa I have read and studied all posts on the Mombasa forum which saved me a lot of time, money and gained me quality & safety. So thanks for that.

I had a very nice stay at Mtwapa for one week. Taxi from airport to hotel costed me 2000. Stayed at Kendas Village Hotel at first, paid 2000 (incl. Breakfast) a night. I think price-quality the hotel is ok, safe, good food, helpfull staff, I enjoyed my time there. In daytime when I went out I either walked or took the bus. At nite I always took the motorbike (paid 50) to bring me to Caserina a few times.

During my stay I have not paid directly for sex, only indirectly. First nite, I seduced a waitress at Kendas which I shagged once for 'free' and paid a shared dinner next day. Girl told me she earned about 3000 a month without tips, she brought me to her home next morning and she was living in very poor conditions.

Next day, I had a date with a girl I met online, we went out to Caserina where I bought her beers and seduced her. Shagged her in my hotel room for 'free' for the next 2 days, paid her drinks, food and money for bus. Next I spend 3 nites at her place, apparently she lived at a nice appartment at the back side of Kendas Arcade Hotel. Don't know if she's a malaya or not. Anyway I gave her 2000 a day (the money I saved while not staying at Kendas Village Hotel) , and paid her food, drink, and money for bus. Had 2 great shags a day, and lots of girlfriend experience, laughing, etc.

Last nite I went back to Kendas Village Hotel, I had to pay 3600 a nite.

My advice like many have told before is not to walk alone on the street at nite, not to wear or bring expensive clothes or attributes and not leave them in your room. Always lock your door and take key with you. If inside (even with girl) , lock the door and hide the key if the girl is inside. Taxi back to Airport costed me 2300.

Overall I had a good stay. Next time I will get back outside Christmas period to see what are the differences.

Now I have read a lot of discussion about correct pricing for the sexual services provided by women in Mombasa and I would like to share my view based upon my marketing knowledge, which is independent from Kenia and sexual services in fact.

What we are talking about are services, and service pricing is always set by the supplier and dependent upon 3 factors: costs, demand and competition. As it is for any service you buy on the market it is also for sexual services advised to negotiate a price before hand. If you don't, you either risk having pricing disagreements afterward or the girl accept your offer which either means you estimated the price correctly or most likely that you are overpaying.

Now imagine 2 girls who sell the same sexual service with the by you same perceived service quality, however the price is different. Girl number 1 sells for 1500 LT, girl number 2 sells for 3000 LT. Each girl will set the price based upon her definition of costs, demand and competition. However girl number 2 (3000 LT) will make the same profit by selling fewer sexual services than girl number 1 (1500 LT). Both girls are making profit, if not they would stop selling their sexual services.

Now if girl number 2 (3000 LT) lowers the price of her sexual services to 2000 LT, more customers of girl number 1 (1500 LT) would be willing to move and buy sexual services from girl number 2 which may force girl number 1 to lower her price to 1200 LT.

What is the important lessons learned here? That each time the highest price of the same service with same quality is sold by girl 2 (3000 LT) it keeps the lowest price provided by girl 1 (1500 LT) inflated.

Now as the girls do not list the prices of their sexual services in a distributed catalog, it is important for you as a customer to find out what the girls are willing to work for. If you don't, you risk of over-paying.

And remember that it's important to realize that it's always the supplier (in this case the girl) who sets the price.

In case you can't / won't accept the price of the sexual services of a girl, there is always a chance to profit from what I call the "desperation hour". In the pickup but also in the mongering world there is as part of female group theory, a certain time at night when girls start to consider to lower their price due to the fact that they fear not making money that night, or fear to be seen getting home alone by their colleagues.

In the "desperation hour" it is possible to pick up higher service girls at lower prices for their regular quality provided. If you are interested in this, you will have to spend a few nights at your regular clubs and observe when this hour occurs, as it might differ from location to location as parties start end end at different locations. You might see that at a certain hour late at night, new or more beautiful girls pop in, and that the ratio suppliers versus customers present grows.

Greetings,

Woef Woef

Guyt2007
12-29-10, 07:37
During my stay I have not paid directly for sex, only indirectly.

Thank you for your nice report.

You said, you paid indirectly (paying food,.). Did you also negotiate this with the girl before?

Thanks,

Gt2007

Willyboy
12-29-10, 11:08
Hello, all,

First of all I want to thank all poster who contributed to this Mombasa forum. Before I left to Mombasa I have read and studied all posts on the Mombasa forum which saved me a lot of time, money and gained me quality & safety. So thanks for that.

I had a very nice stay at Mtwapa for one week. Taxi from airport to hotel costed me 2000. Stayed at Kendas Village Hotel at first, paid 2000 (incl. Breakfast) a night. I think price-quality the hotel is ok, safe, good food, helpfull staff, I enjoyed my time there. In daytime when I went out I either walked or took the bus. At nite I always took the motorbike (paid 50) to bring me to Caserina a few times.

During my stay I have not paid directly for sex, only indirectly. First nite, I seduced a waitress at Kendas which I shagged once for 'free' and paid a shared dinner next day. Girl told me she earned about 3000 a month without tips, she brought me to her home next morning and she was living in very poor conditions.

Next day, I had a date with a girl I met online, we went out to Caserina where I bought her beers and seduced her. Shagged her in my hotel room for 'free' for the next 2 days, paid her drinks, food and money for bus. Next I spend 3 nites at her place, apparently she lived at a nice appartment at the back side of Kendas Arcade Hotel. Don't know if she's a malaya or not. Anyway I gave her 2000 a day (the money I saved while not staying at Kendas Village Hotel) , and paid her food, drink, and money for bus. Had 2 great shags a day, and lots of girlfriend experience, laughing, etc.

Last nite I went back to Kendas Village Hotel, I had to pay 3600 a nite.

My advice like many have told before is not to walk alone on the street at nite, not to wear or bring expensive clothes or attributes and not leave them in your room. Always lock your door and take key with you. If inside (even with girl) , lock the door and hide the key if the girl is inside. Taxi back to Airport costed me 2300.

Overall I had a good stay. Next time I will get back outside Christmas period to see what are the differences.

Now I have read a lot of discussion about correct pricing for the sexual services provided by women in Mombasa and I would like to share my view based upon my marketing knowledge, which is independent from Kenia and sexual services in fact.

What we are talking about are services, and service pricing is always set by the supplier and dependent upon 3 factors: costs, demand and competition. As it is for any service you buy on the market it is also for sexual services advised to negotiate a price before hand. If you don't, you either risk having pricing disagreements afterward or the girl accept your offer which either means you estimated the price correctly or most likely that you are overpaying.

Now imagine 2 girls who sell the same sexual service with the by you same perceived service quality, however the price is different. Girl number 1 sells for 1500 LT, girl number 2 sells for 3000 LT. Each girl will set the price based upon her definition of costs, demand and competition. However girl number 2 (3000 LT) will make the same profit by selling fewer sexual services than girl number 1 (1500 LT). Both girls are making profit, if not they would stop selling their sexual services.

Now if girl number 2 (3000 LT) lowers the price of her sexual services to 2000 LT, more customers of girl number 1 (1500 LT) would be willing to move and buy sexual services from girl number 2 which may force girl number 1 to lower her price to 1200 LT.

What is the important lessons learned here? That each time the highest price of the same service with same quality is sold by girl 2 (3000 LT) it keeps the lowest price provided by girl 1 (1500 LT) inflated.

Now as the girls do not list the prices of their sexual services in a distributed catalog, it is important for you as a customer to find out what the girls are willing to work for. If you don't, you risk of over-paying.

And remember that it's important to realize that it's always the supplier (in this case the girl) who sets the price.

In case you can't / won't accept the price of the sexual services of a girl, there is always a chance to profit from what I call the "desperation hour". In the pickup but also in the mongering world there is as part of female group theory, a certain time at night when girls start to consider to lower their price due to the fact that they fear not making money that night, or fear to be seen getting home alone by their colleagues.

In the "desperation hour" it is possible to pick up higher service girls at lower prices for their regular quality provided. If you are interested in this, you will have to spend a few nights at your regular clubs and observe when this hour occurs, as it might differ from location to location as parties start end end at different locations. You might see that at a certain hour late at night, new or more beautiful girls pop in, and that the ratio suppliers versus customers present grows.

Greetings,

Woef WoefYour first trip is for study. You pay tomacth if you pay higher than 2000ksh / night. No different about class of girl.

You write about 3000ksh salery it month for work. But you pay this amount for one night. Think litthe bit plaese.

To stay with one girl in her house. Only fouls doing this. Yoy life have valeu from 2000ksh / Day. No man. It is more valeu than this.

Fun Hot
12-30-10, 10:40
Hi guys,

I am just wondering how many rounds do you shag a girl when you take her for a LT? Am a guy who can go even 6 times in a night depending on my conditions and the girls response. Many times I have paid a good looking girl a total of 1, 500 KES and shagged her to my fill, like 5-6 passionate rounds! But also on few occasions I have met some who will tell me, I can only do 2 for that amount. And they were serious about it. Others meant that they cannot do more than 3 rounds per night. Are they sincere?

I mean, guys, how do you go about this? Will be interested to read your views and comments.

FH

Woef Woef
12-31-10, 12:35
You said, you paid indirectly (paying food.). Did you also negotiate this with the girl before?

Gt2007No I didn't negotiated anything. What I did before was saying that I am not interested in malaja's, and asked if she was a malaja, she said no.

Uptown Hustler
12-31-10, 12:45
Hi.

I'm arriving in Feb and staying in Mtwapa rather than in Bamburi Beach (where I was last time). Which of the Kendas hotels (Arcade, Village, Oceanview) is best?

Your opinions much appreciated.

Willyboy
12-31-10, 15:40
No I didn't negotiated anything. What I did before was saying that I am not interested in malaja's, and asked if she was a malaja, she said no.By carfull. The no malaya will giving you bill. 10. 000ksh. If you say no. Than she will call police. Than 5000 for the girl end 5000ksh for police. All thinks are very simple for this girls.

Fun And Sun
01-01-11, 03:06
My view, which others might disagree with, is as follows:

Dude, if you want to fuck all night when you go for LT then Kenya is ideal. Most of the girls will not sleep until you decide to sleep, and the morning fucking is mandatory rather than optional, no matter how late you sleep. Have even had one girl bunk off work to stay around for the morning fuck since I was too tired when she needed to go to work, LOL.

My view is that if you want to fuck that much then you need to state it up front to avoid disappointment. Not bluntly and rudely, something like "I think you are one beautiful woman, and I want to make love to you all night, is that ok?" rather than "how much fucking do I get for 1, 500 KES?".

But to caveat that: I usually only go for one pop at night since I will have been partying, then try to do multiple pops in the day time instead, so I have not ever tried to push a girl's good will by going for six pops in one night. Wish I could, but guess I am ageing badly, LOL.

(Due to this ridiculous editing of posts software I write LOL when I would normally have put a smiley or a ".")


Hi guys,

I am just wondering how many rounds do you shag a girl when you take her for a LT? Am a guy who can go even 6 times in a night depending on my conditions and the girls response. Many times I have paid a good looking girl a total of 1, 500 KES and shagged her to my fill, like 5-6 passionate rounds! But also on few occasions I have met some who will tell me, I can only do 2 for that amount. And they were serious about it. Others meant that they cannot do more than 3 rounds per night. Are they sincere?

I mean, guys, how do you go about this? Will be interested to read your views and comments.

FH

Expat Kenya
01-01-11, 23:34
Hi.

I'm arriving in Feb and staying in Mtwapa rather than in Bamburi Beach (where I was last time). Which of the Kendas hotels (Arcade, Village, Oceanview) is best?

Your opinions much appreciated. So many bad experiences to read here on Kendas. Ocean view is not in Mtwapa but in Serena, Arcade doesn't seem to be save, village is too far away and very simple by the way.

There are so many nice safe lodges in Mtwapa with much more to offer, security too.

Have a look here http://www.mtwapa.info

Member #4178
01-02-11, 12:58
I am involve with Mtwapa tourist police and the court in kilifi (mtwapa belongs to kilifi)

The head of the tourist police in mtwapa is "inspector omondi", he has 10 officers and the office reports directly to Nairobi.

Omondi is charming as a movie star but he is a very dangerous person. He is not corrupted since he can loose it job.

All other officers are corrupted for a certain degree.

New constitution (sighed a few months ago) limits the police freedom and give a lot of freedom to the citizens. They can not be arrested more the 24h and to convicted a lot of direct evidence is required.

Prostitution in kenya is not legal period. This is mean that if you refuse to pay even 1 bob no way to be arrested or to go to the court.

Police knew that but they may play with you and assume you don't know the law. Since I never pay in kenya I was trapped by a pro pretending to be a non pro. S\we went to the police and one of the senior officer tried to play the game so I told him "fuck you give me your officer number and you will get fired by the head office in Nairobi for police corruptions.

The guy was afraid so much so I called to the inspector and he confirmed that I don't have to pay.

Omondi is the only one that incharge so for any problem ask to talk with him. Some other funny option is to call officer david and buy him a beer. He will kick the lady ass away from you.

I was many time in the court at kilifi. Non of the tourist shire are for malayas. Most of the cases are for assult.

And visa expired. The Judge always fuck the tourist with 50000kes bond for assault and 5000kes for visa expired.

The law state that assault fee is 3000kes not 50000kes. So its better to admit and get 3000 instead saying "no guilty" and getting 50000kes bond or a month in prison.

Mombasa and mtwapa fame fays are over. Mtwapa apears in local TV and the newspaper as the sex capital of kenya. Good ladies are not there anymore and all the beautiful pros are gone. Now you can find only ugly pros.

That I will not fuck for free.

Always ask I'd from the ladies. The hardcore that steals don't have one. Kikuyu / meru are the worst. The better one are lohos / luya (kisumu) , gariyama (kilifi) and masai.

Mtwapa was my baby for the last 15 years but now all the good non-pro are gone and crime is everywhere. (not physical yet, just gangs that steals).

When mass sex tourism are flooding mtwapa bad result are unavoidable. So don't leave anything in the room and remember to activate the credit card travel insurance policy. (its free for all credit card)

My final word is "be careful" this is a hostile environment. All of them will go for your money and if you will.

Not give it, they will scam you and steal it from you.

I had a bad trip but still I got some of the finest ass available. I worked so hard to get it and its hold just a few meetings until the ladies understand that money is not en option and got far away from me.

Woef Woef
01-02-11, 15:12
By carfull. The no malaya will giving you bill. 10. 000ksh. If you say no. Than she will call police. Than 5000 for the girl end 5000ksh for police. All thinks are very simple for this girls.The same can happen with malaya, you agree price next have sex next she ask for more money. How do you handle that?

See the latest post by Noddy in the Photo Gallery.

Willyboy
01-02-11, 16:46
The same can happen with malaya, you agree price next have sex next she ask for more money. How do you handle that?

See the latest post by Noddy in the Photo Gallery.It is never safe, but with price agreement always better.

Expat Kenya
01-02-11, 19:01
The same can happen with malaya, you agree price next have sex next she ask for more money. How do you handle that?

See the latest post by Noddy in the Photo Gallery. Girls and demanding amounts are different. Give her what you wand to give her, lets say kes 1000 or 500 more.

If she complains ask her if she's a malaya, answer : NO! (nobody wands to be) So thats her answer, NO! When she threatens with police, say its no problem, say you can give to the police, not to a malaya. Her thread takes a U-turn because she knows you can bring her in trouble too.

Woef Woef
01-02-11, 20:13
The 2006 Kenya Sexual Offences Act can be found online. Search for

http://www.kenyalaw.org/family/statutes/download.php?file=Sexual%20Offences%20Act. Pdf.


Inspired by The Lucky One's excellent pictures I brought some toys (vibrators) on my recent trip, but I found out the hard way that they are illegal in Kenya. I had to bribe myself out of a threatening 15 years – lifetime imprisonment.

It all started at Cheers. First I waited for one girl to call me and confirm a date. When she didn't call in time I waited for another girl (same who told the story about the mugging outside Kahama) , and when she too took too long I moved and sat down next to a pretty girl who had been smiling at me all the evening, Faith is her name. She seemed a bit drowsy, and she talked in a backward twisted way that I could not fully understand, but she had a very pretty face and seemed to have a body matching my specs and she agreed to come with me to Kahama.

Before she undressed I took a picture of her face, but it didn't come out too well. In the sack she proved she indeed had a very nice body and a sweet pussy, but she was the first star fish experience I have had in Africa. She showed however a little bit of interest in the toys, and she tried one clitoris vibrator, without seemingly enjoying it, and then she tried the G-spot vibrator, but she soon took it out saying somthing like 'Shaking inside'.

We slept and had another uninspiring round in the morning, and when she had dressed I asked if she hadn't liked any of the toys. Then she grabbed the lilac G-spot vibrator. I said 'If you want this I want to take pictures of your pussy'. She undressed again and we had a short photo session.

In the evening the next day I met her at Cheers and she asked me 'Why you take this pictures? ', and I said I would look at them to remember her. She also said other things I did not understand. Her friend (the Kahama mugging story girl) said to me that she also had great difficulties in understanding what Faith was saying. Anyway; I moved on to Casablanca and gave the girls a lift there.

Next afternoon I again met Faith, this time at Big Tree, and again she asked about the pictures, and I still had problems understanding what she was saying. But as I left she suddenly said: 'I will give you trouble with the police, you understand? '. Like out of the blue!

Anyway, I went straight to the hotel, deleted all nude pictures from the camera and watched the post election riot news on TV.

There was a knock on the door and three policmen came in, one in uniform and two plain in clothes. We started with a friendly chat and then the uniformed (good cop) said that there had been a complaint and they needed to investigate it: A girl had complained that I had taken pornographic pictures of her while she was asleep and against her will. He asked to see my camera, which I gave him.

I explained to the police that in my opinion the girl indeed had given her consent since she had opted for the vibrator and undressed herself after she already had dressed in the morning. When I understood that she was unhappy with the pictures I had deleted them.

Then I made the mistake of showing the other vibrators.

They asked me to come with them to the Tourist Police station (opposite Cheers) and I had no choice.

In the captain's office the plain clothes policeman (bad cop) took charge. He brought in the girl, whom I of course said I recognized. Again she said something I did not understand but the policeman translated 'Why you open her pussy and take picture'. And at this moment I understood what it was all about: I had taken one picture where I opened her pussy to get some pink, and it was obviously this that had upset the girl so much.

They kept asking about the deleted pictures, if I had more memory cards, if I had a laptop or a flash disk, which I of course hadn't. I said that if I still had had the pictures I would have proved the girl was awake and co-operating.

Anyway, to cut a long story (two hours in the police station) short, the police showed me excerpts from an appendix to the law, Sexual Assault Act– 2006. One chapter (17?) was about leading someone into prostitution, which could lead to 5 years in jail, and another chapter (22?) was about using objects in the genital areas which could lead to from 15 years to life time imprisonment (or 500, 000 KES fine). (The captain seriously said that there was scientific proof that these objects destroyed thousands of nerves in the sensitive areas!) The plain clothes said they were going to press charges. I said I had understood that I, not knowingly, had broken the Kenyan law. He said he was going to start the necessary procedures, taking fingerprints and all that, and then he told me was going to fetch the equipment, and while he was doing that I should find a solution. This was of course a clear hint that a bribe would do the trick.

I pretended for a while I didn't understand this, but after some time I gave a suggestion of a compensation to the girl and a contribution to the important work of the police, say 30, 000 KES. That didn't seem to be enough.

He came back with the tools and asked if I had talked to the captain yet, but he had been busy, and I said I really wasn't sure what to say. Then he wrote the figure 50, 000 on a paper.

Finally the captain had time to talk to me: I said I had understood I had broken the law, but to save us all some trouble I suggested a compensation of 50, 000 KES. The captain was silent for a few seconds, as to think it over, then he said OK.

I fetched my credit card, pulled 50, 000 KES from an ATM, went into the police station back room and handed over the money. I asked the captain: 'My name does not appear in any papers? ', and he said 'No papers. '

It was an unpleasant experience, but in a way I'm glad I've been through it. But it's not one I can tell anyone but you guys. What buggers me I didn't see it coming earlier.

If any of you local guys can obtain a copy of this Sexual Assault Act from 2006 and give a summary of what more is illegal it would maybe be enlightning for the forum. (I didn't have the nerve to return to the police station and ask for a copy.).

Expat Kenya
01-02-11, 22:29
Thanks for that John, enlightens lots of mongerers I guess. Just wondering, Mtwapa was your baby but now pros en non pros are not there? You did find the nicest ass in Mtwapa. So do I, now I don't understand.

I also missed a suitcase of stuff onces, too bad, all my important stuff never sleep with a malaya under one roof. Made a report at the tourist police, they included a camera which later I found, but already got the money from my insurance company, the rest was just clothes. I don't see the point of bringing expensive things when you go out for a fuck anyway.

The officer you are referring to is new. In the battle against corruption, officers are shifted many times so they govern places where they don't know or trust anyone to take bribes, it is a temporary situation, when you know the local big bosses or the former inspector of Mtwapa, there is no problem, its a situation thats in all police stations all over Kenya every now and than.

Its true, where there is mass sex tourism atmosphere changes. However, I don't share the same point of view that Mtwapa has become such a hostile place compared with the mafia and corrupt policemen at lets say Big tree at Bamburi.

How do you see that?


I am involve with Mtwapa tourist police and the court in kilifi (mtwapa belongs to kilifi)

The head of the tourist police in mtwapa is "inspector omondi", he has 10 officers and the office reports directly to Nairobi.

Omondi is charming as a movie star but he is a very dangerous person. He is not corrupted since he can loose it job.

All other officers are corrupted for a certain degree.

New constitution (sighed a few months ago) limits the police freedom and give a lot of freedom to the citizens. They can not be arrested more the 24h and to convicted a lot of direct evidence is required.

Prostitution in kenya is not legal period. This is mean that if you refuse to pay even 1 bob no way to be arrested or to go to the court.

Police knew that but they may play with you and assume you don't know the law. Since I never pay in kenya I was trapped by a pro pretending to be a non pro. S\we went to the police and one of the senior officer tried to play the game so I told him "fuck you give me your officer number and you will get fired by the head office in Nairobi for police corruptions.

The guy was afraid so much so I called to the inspector and he confirmed that I don't have to pay.

Omondi is the only one that incharge so for any problem ask to talk with him. Some other funny option is to call officer david and buy him a beer. He will kick the lady ass away from you.

I was many time in the court at kilifi. Non of the tourist shire are for malayas. Most of the cases are for assult.

And visa expired. The Judge always fuck the tourist with 50000kes bond for assault and 5000kes for visa expired.

The law state that assault fee is 3000kes not 50000kes. So its better to admit and get 3000 instead saying "no guilty" and getting 50000kes bond or a month in prison.

Mombasa and mtwapa fame fays are over. Mtwapa apears in local TV and the newspaper as the sex capital of kenya. Good ladies are not there anymore and all the beautiful pros are gone. Now you can find only ugly pros.

That I will not fuck for free.

Always ask I'd from the ladies. The hardcore that steals don't have one. Kikuyu / meru are the worst. The better one are lohos / luya (kisumu) , gariyama (kilifi) and masai.

Mtwapa was my baby for the last 15 years but now all the good non-pro are gone and crime is everywhere. (not physical yet, just gangs that steals).

When mass sex tourism are flooding mtwapa bad result are unavoidable. So don't leave anything in the room and remember to activate the credit card travel insurance policy. (its free for all credit card)

My final word is "be careful" this is a hostile environment. All of them will go for your money and if you will.

Not give it, they will scam you and steal it from you.

I had a bad trip but still I got some of the finest ass available. I worked so hard to get it and its hold just a few meetings until the ladies understand that money is not en option and got far away from me.

Member #4178
01-03-11, 08:14
My report is basically match "S2kylib December report" which was said "no much action"

This is true for pro's and non pro's, You simply don't see ladies both on the streets or in clubs.

For thus who are not quality aware there is no problem and my report is not relevant. Just go to casaurina.

And take a black girls. But for thus who after a MTV model December was not the time for that.

I am not sure what will be the status for January, I have heard that many ladies went upcountry to visit their families.

And this is the reason that it was so dry.

Regardless of December or some other point in time I have notice that generally the situation are bad. (I visit every 3 months so I can compare).

Now I describe the place as a hostile environment comparing to the same place years ago or even months ago. I compared orange to orange and not orange to apple. (mtpawpa vs bigtree)

So if no ladies where there at December how did I got fine pieces of ass? Well it was very hard to get this time. I went to mombasa town and looked for them during daytime around posta area. Also near posta mtwapa along the main road around 6pm to 9pm some non pro are hanging around coming from tuskyes (supermarket) or from their slums.

To visit some relative or something. I have near zero response time so I hunt them "on the fly" and open a conversation while they walk. I also know the culture and make them smile buy saying something like "Hi I am john.

The best muzungu for 2010 chosen by tembo disco" most of them will smile and start talking with such as that hit.

However my overall results comparing to previous trips was bad. Both quantity and quality.

The police said that the gangs are here only because December is the peak season but I do not believe it, ones they.

Develop such a sophisticated techniques and got away from it with electronics and money, they will come back at any season. I met many tourists at the police station that lost thire stuff.

Still you can see many couples muzunguzes with a plack ladies normally with her child. Its seems they are after.

Stability and having a child to the black woman means she want to close the deal and not fuck around. (because the responsibility).

I am not in that position, not yet so next time I will go back Nairobi. And sure I will leave my dual core asus laptop at home as well as my DSLR. I will use a single smart phone for both music player, camera and video.

Happy hunting hope to hear better reports for January.

Jbond
01-03-11, 12:47
Your first trip is for study. You pay tomacth if you pay higher than 2000ksh / night. No different about class of girl.

You write about 3000ksh salery it month for work. But you pay this amount for one night. Think litthe bit plaese.

To stay with one girl in her house. Only fouls doing this. Yoy life have valeu from 2000ksh / Day. No man. It is more valeu than this.Yes, I agree Willy on your thoughts regarding pricing compared to what the average person earns in a month. Most of the girls were very reasonable and agreeing to 1, 500 and staying all night. I am sure some of our resident members do even better with regular hookups.

All very depressing about some of our fellow hunters having problems with the police, rogue malayas and robberies from the hotels. We need if it were ever possible a blueprint for good safe accommodation offering value for money in Mtwapa. As for the girls I always agree beforehand my gift to them however business like that maybe. Note the word gift rather than P4P payment. Still at the end of the day no guarantee if she wants to make trouble.

Expat Kenya was mentioning Big Tree / Bamburi so what is the gossip there? The only trouble I have heard there is somebody having some money taken out of the locker while he was swimming. Anything else?

Jbond
01-03-11, 21:39
So if no ladies where there at December how did I got fine pieces of ass? Well it was very hard to get this time. I went to mombasa town and looked for them during daytime around posta area. Also near posta mtwapa along the main road around 6pm to 9pm some non pro are hanging around coming from tuskyes (supermarket) or from their slums.

To visit some relative or something. I have near zero response time so I hunt them "on the fly" and open a conversation while they walk. I also know the culture and make them smile buy saying something like "Hi I am john.

The best muzungu for 2010 chosen by tembo disco" most of them will smile and start talking with such as that hit.

However my overall results comparing to previous trips was bad. Both quantity and quality.

The police said that the gangs are here only because December is the peak season but I do not believe it, ones they.

Develop such a sophisticated techniques and got away from it with electronics and money, they will come back at any season. I met many tourists at the police station that lost thire stuff.

Still you can see many couples muzunguzes with a plack ladies normally with her child. Its seems they are after.

Stability and having a child to the black woman means she want to close the deal and not fuck around. (because the responsibility).

I am not in that position, not yet so next time I will go back Nairobi. And sure I will leave my dual core asus laptop at home as well as my DSLR. I will use a single smart phone for both music player, camera and video.

Happy hunting hope to hear better reports for January. [/QUOTE]I always think December and January are not the best months for us hunters to go on safari. Wherever, I have been in the world. Prices go up, accommodation and the girls especially, while there are too many normal tourists getting in the way of us hunters. We need the wide open spaces to search and size up those hotties we are going to hide the sausage with. I can confirm a lot of girls do go home for Christmas, who don't come from the Mombasa area. One of my favourites was telling me all the places she was going with her family over the Cristmas and New Year period.

Expat Kenya
01-03-11, 23:05
December is not the best time, reason, you said it John, lots of girls travel to their rural to visit their homes. Also a lot of Nairobians (well off) celebrate their holidays on coast in groups. Guess that explains the bad atmosphere, coastal people and Nairobians do not mix very well too. January will be good again, school fees have to be paid, prices go up because of new year. Same reason that November girls were fighting for a mzungu for money to travel, holidays, school fees etc. Right before high season, June and November are the best times to find many affordable flights and most willing malayas with good choice. Festive seasons, easter, Christmas and new year the worst.


My report is basically match "S2kylib December report" which was said "no much action"

This is true for pro's and non pro's, You simply don't see ladies both on the streets or in clubs.

For thus who are not quality aware there is no problem and my report is not relevant. Just go to casaurina.

And take a black girls. But for thus who after a MTV model December was not the time for that.

I am not sure what will be the status for January, I have heard that many ladies went upcountry to visit their families.

And this is the reason that it was so dry.

Regardless of December or some other point in time I have notice that generally the situation are bad. (I visit every 3 months so I can compare).

Now I describe the place as a hostile environment comparing to the same place years ago or even months ago. I compared orange to orange and not orange to apple. (mtpawpa vs bigtree)

So if no ladies where there at December how did I got fine pieces of ass? Well it was very hard to get this time. I went to mombasa town and looked for them during daytime around posta area. Also near posta mtwapa along the main road around 6pm to 9pm some non pro are hanging around coming from tuskyes (supermarket) or from their slums.

To visit some relative or something. I have near zero response time so I hunt them "on the fly" and open a conversation while they walk. I also know the culture and make them smile buy saying something like "Hi I am john.

The best muzungu for 2010 chosen by tembo disco" most of them will smile and start talking with such as that hit.

However my overall results comparing to previous trips was bad. Both quantity and quality.

The police said that the gangs are here only because December is the peak season but I do not believe it, ones they.

Develop such a sophisticated techniques and got away from it with electronics and money, they will come back at any season. I met many tourists at the police station that lost thire stuff.

Still you can see many couples muzunguzes with a plack ladies normally with her child. Its seems they are after.

Stability and having a child to the black woman means she want to close the deal and not fuck around. (because the responsibility).

I am not in that position, not yet so next time I will go back Nairobi. And sure I will leave my dual core asus laptop at home as well as my DSLR. I will use a single smart phone for both music player, camera and video.

Happy hunting hope to hear better reports for January.

Expat Kenya
01-03-11, 23:23
Expat Kenya was mentioning Big Tree / Bamburi so what is the gossip there? The only trouble I have heard there is somebody having some money taken out of the locker while he was swimming. Anything else?Bamaburi police is the worst when it comes to cooperating with the prof malayas walking around there. Fresh girls are pushed aside by veterans, thus seeking their luck in Mtwapa.

Lately a mzungu I know was arrested in Casaurina by Mtwapa police outside casaurina. Mtwapa police handed him over to Bamburi police because that was the area he was staying. Strange because you're supposed to go to the police station where you committed an offence? Not really! The malaya, normally stationed in Bamburi, had set him up. Mzungu paid 65000 shilling, the malaya got kes 30000 from that, thus she bought me and a friend a few beers to keep our mouths shut.

What was the mzungu accused of?

Adultery, the girl claimed they were in a relationship, she knew too much of the mzungu after his fourth or fifth visit, she started a fight, assault was another charge than they threatened the mzungu a little.

There are bars around Bamburi who also set up mzungus.

I've never heard such stories from Mtwapa.

Expat Kenya
01-03-11, 23:27
Expat Kenya was mentioning Big Tree / Bamburi so what is the gossip there? The only trouble I have heard there is somebody having some money taken out of the locker while he was swimming. Anything else?Bamaburi police is the worst when it comes to cooperating with the prof malayas walking around there. Fresh girls are pushed aside by veterans, thus seeking their luck in Mtwapa.

Lately a mzungu I know was arrested in Casaurina by Mtwapa police outside casaurina. Mtwapa police handed him over to Bamburi police because that was the area he was staying. Strange because you're supposed to go to the police station where you committed an offence? Not really! The malaya, normally stationed in Bamburi Big Tree, had set him up. Mzungu paid 65000 shilling, the malaya got kes 30000 from that, thus she bought me and a friend a few beers to keep our mouths shut and we did.

What was the mzungu accused of?

Adultery, the girl claimed they were in a relationship, she knew too much of the mzungu after his fourth or fifth visit, she started a fight, assault was another charge than they threatened the mzungu a little with drugs in his pocket.

I've never heard such bad stories from Mtwapa.

Jbond
01-04-11, 12:14
I feel extremely lucky having stayed for an extended period of time at kendas and not being robbed during a time when this was happening to alot of people. While being chased by a girl in Mtwapa who could not understand that I didn't want a long term relationship but only friendship. She started one fight in Casuarina and used to follow me back whenever I was going back to the hotel with my latest hottie followed by alot of screaming and crying.

I understand there is an element of corruption with the police and if the guy had drugs in his pocket then that wouldn't have helped. However, adultery is a civil but not criminal matter especially in a non marriage situation.

A lot of these girls work in a fantasy world, where sadly in the end they can't distinguish between fantasy and reality.

As I said before, I think we should all keep a mental note of the good girls and the ones with ulterior motives and warn our friends and any fellow hunters that deserve saving from a possible nightmare situation.

Apologies to JP my response below seems to have been added without a break at the bottom of his report.

I always think December and January are not the best months for us hunters to go on safari. Wherever, I have been in the world. Prices go up, accommodation and the girls especially, while there are too many normal tourists getting in the way of us hunters. We need the wide open spaces to search and size up those hotties we are going to hide the sausage with. I can confirm a lot of girls do go home for Christmas, who don't come from the Mombasa area. One of my favourites was telling me all the places she was going with her family over the Cristmas and New Year period.

Member #4294
01-04-11, 14:44
What / who are malayas? Going there jan / feb.

I have seen reference to them in the forum, but can't work it out.

Thanks

Fun And Sun
01-04-11, 15:21
What / who are malayas? Going there jan / feb.

I have seen reference to them in the forum, but can't work it out.

ThanksMalayas are working girls, that is, they are girls that trade sex for money to be blunt.

While the term is thrown around liberally on this thread, it is highly offensive so never ask a girl if she is a malaya or call her a malaya.

Very funnily, most of the working girls don't think of themselves as malayas. Their philosophy is that all the other working girls are malayas while they are not.

Member #4294
01-04-11, 21:56
Malayas are working girls, that is, they are girls that trade sex for money to be blunt.

While the term is thrown around liberally on this thread, it is highly offensive so never ask a girl if she is a malaya or call her a malaya.

Very funnily, most of the working girls don't think of themselves as malayas. Their philosophy is that all the other working girls are malayas while they are not. Great, thanks. I thought it was like a race / cast or something. I will be sure to avoid using the term LOL hehe, that could have been a very funny mistake to make.

Golfinho
01-04-11, 22:40
I.

A lot of these girls work in a fantasy world, where sadly in the end they can't distinguish between fantasy and reality.Fantasy and reality. Thanks for the very valuable insight, Bond, J Bond.

Such a different mentality from that of punters in a 3rd world country with a little hard currency in their pockets who suddenly find themselves irresistable to women. Reality and fantasy.

Fun And Sun
01-06-11, 00:55
Got a few questions by PM that I thought I might as well post in the forum since it's useful info for first time readers of this thread.

Q: Just wondered if you had any info about taxi costs in thde area?

A: Take matatus in the day time. It's only 20 shilling. They run constantly, just go up to the main road, flag one down, and then tell the driver where you are getting of. Watch out for pick pockets.

Opinions differ about whether it is wise to take matatus at night. I have done it a few times, but that has been getting into one that was stationary so that I could check out who was in it.

At night it costs about 200-250 shilling to go to Tembo or Casaurina from Kahama. More expensive to get back, drivers will ask for up to 600 shilling. Lowest I argued them down to for the return trip was 300 shilling.

The times I have rented a driver at night I have paid 2, 000 shilling, and that has included driving all the way into Mombasa, going to a few places and waiting for me outside, going through Bamburi to Mtwapa, then back to Bamburi.

Q: I also have been concerned about a few posts regarding the security situation even in Bamburi. Any opinion / experience regarding this?

A: Those posts are just there to warn you about scams and swindles which really is the main risk you face if you are careful and keep your wits about you. In places like Rio people get mugged at gun point, stabbed to death and so on (read the crime and safety section on that board and compare with our discussion here about stolen cameras etc to get some perspective). Sure those things happen in Bamburi too, but it is much much safer there. Just hold on to your stuff, be careful about what details you tell people about yourself, don't get too drunk, and like they teach you in school: be wary of strangers and don't accept anything from them, and so on.

Q: Finally, I understand ATM's are easy to come by there?

A: Yup, there's a Barclays very close to Kahama actually and a few other ATMs in other places. When I go to the ATM I always go in the day time, have someone drive me there, wait for me, then drive me back so I can leave the money and ATM card locked away. Too paranoid? Probably, but good to be careful.

Bearing in mind that this is ISG, if you are asking about the other type of ATM, think you might struggle LOL.

Jbond
01-06-11, 21:32
Fantasy and reality. Thanks for the very valuable insight, Bond, J Bond.

Such a different mentality from that of punters in a 3rd world country with a little hard currency in their pockets who suddenly find themselves irresistable to women. Reality and fantasy.Well, hopefully us fellow hunters realise what is reality and fantasy when comparng with our own personal circumstances. As one person's fantasy could be another person's reality. This is why in modern times mongering destinatins have sprung up round the world. Where hard working guys can have a break from their heavy schedules to live out some of their fantasies on holiday. Unfortunately, the girls tend to lose the ability to differentiate because of constantly living in a unrealistic environment and all that goes with this.

So the next time I am in Casaurina with a hottie on each arm ordering vodka martinis well stirred but not shaken all round. I wll not be worried about if this is a fantasy or reality but that it isn't only a beautiful dream!

Expat Kenya
01-08-11, 00:15
Was at Casaurina yesterday, can second that January is not a good month, many familiar malayas and new semi girls not too familiar to nightlife looking for mzungu flesh.

There is a website on Mtwapa now. Where to eat, sleep, shit and fuck. I think its a good one to get information on hotels, restaurants and bars. http://www.mtwapa.info

Member #4364
01-08-11, 12:36
High season, try April.

Jbond
01-08-11, 18:07
High season, try April.I have never been to Kenya in April and May but I hear it is very rainy in Mombasa especially. True or not?

Mtwapa difficult with rain as the roads turn into a swamp and a green light for malaria carrying mosquitoes.

I can't recall of another place in the world where so many people have contracted malaria that I have been to, which includes extensive periods in te Amazon!

Member #4364
01-10-11, 18:48
Maybe, most rain and cold from June up to August

Member #4148
01-12-11, 20:00
what a remarkable place. as those of you who have rtff know, when you cross mtwapa creek, gone is the land of luxury resorts, air-conditioned rooms, swimming pools, restaurants with linen napkins (or even paper ones quite often) or conventional tourist attractions of any sort. the beach is a schlep if you hoof it and no great shakes once you reach it: scummy, seaweed. bedraggled, undeveloped tide pools without chairs or lounges. or even hawkers or touts by and large here north of bamburi. the few pools available are located in off-the-beaten-track little b and b's like kerstin's apartments, where you cannot stand upright for the low-hanging, almost suffocating palms ringing the tiny pool, or prestige apartments, even further removed from the main road and offering only lavish (by local standards) two-bedroom apartments for 4000 shillings a night, bamburi prices and no nightclubs of any sort nearby.

so why on earth would anyone vacation here?

the women. holy shit. the women.

no trip report is useful without a context. in this case, relevant mongering characteristics of the mongerer himself. i am 47, fit, generally considered to be handsome. i have never learned how to be charming in a disco where speech is impossible. i can usually overcome my shyness and approach girls in typical daytime settings like shops and restaurants. my sexual druthers incline toward one very sweaty, very protracted session per day (in excess of one hour and sometimes as long as two or even three) , bringing my partner as many orgasms and as much pleasure as she can stand before i finish, in order to bring her back for more. something of the sexual hero complex here. relevant to the board because i am not interested in bars, discos, dyed-in-the-wool prostitutes or women who are interested in a quick fuck for some cash. i am interested in variety. a different girl each day is my ideal and i may repeat with a special one, especially if she can bring me a friend.

my targets are regular girls, the gray area between nun and prostitute which, here in kenya, is best described by the hours a girl keeps, i have found. if 11:00 at night is too late for her to come out because of work the next day, for example, she is a 'regular girl' by my lights. and within this timetable, this regular girl may want anything and everything from a regular boyfriend to a husband to a sponsor to nothing at all beyond a good fuck. and will most often be happy to accept cash (but not always expect it and, rarely, be offended by the offer) as an expression of her companion's pleasure in her company.

of the seven girls i have fucked in seven days, five have been through afro, one picked up working reception of a local hotel and one met late at night at a local bar while scoring some nyoma choma to bring back for me and the girl i had just shagged. only one a 7/10. one a porn-star spinner. the rest eights and nines.

each was given and happily accepted 1000 shillings for her efforts, except the one who got offended and ended up accepting 500 for the cab. only one asked for anything. i forgot to give one her gift and returned an hour later to slip it under her door (fucked her in her apartment). she texted me her thanks warmly.

i cannot recommend afro strongly enough for someone with similar inclinations to mine. simply because the girls on afro are much less likely to be hardcore pros. thus, the population of girls self-selects for the preferences of a monger with my priorities.

how does it work?

send an email or chat. exchange numbers (a cell is critical). speak. assign a time or place to meet (they have all been willing to come to me). meet. fuck. between ghana, nairobi and now here, i believe i have met around 25 women this way and fucked 20 of them on the first meeting.

more to follow.

LustyHombre
01-13-11, 03:34
what a remarkable place. as those of you who have rtff know, when you cross mtwapa creek, gone is the land of luxury resorts, air-conditioned rooms, swimming pools, restaurants with linen napkins (or even paper ones quite often) or conventional tourist attractions of any sort. the beach is a schlep if you hoof it and no great shakes once you reach it: scummy, seaweed. bedraggled, undeveloped tide pools without chairs or lounges. or even hawkers or touts by and large here north of bamburi. the few pools available are located in off-the-beaten-track little b and b's like kerstin's apartments, where you cannot stand upright for the low-hanging, almost suffocating palms ringing the tiny pool, or prestige apartments, even further removed from the main road and offering only lavish (by local standards) two-bedroom apartments for 4000 shillings a night, bamburi prices and no nightclubs of any sort nearby.

so why on earth would anyone vacation here?

the women. holy shit. the women.

no trip report is useful without a context. in this case, relevant mongering characteristics of the mongerer himself. i am 47, fit, generally considered to be handsome. i have never learned how to be charming in a disco where speech is impossible. i can usually overcome my shyness and approach girls in typical daytime settings like shops and restaurants. my sexual druthers incline toward one very sweaty, very protracted session per day (in excess of one hour and sometimes as long as two or even three) , bringing my partner as many orgasms and as much pleasure as she can stand before i finish, in order to bring her back for more. something of the sexual hero complex here. relevant to the board because i am not interested in bars, discos, dyed-in-the-wool prostitutes or women who are interested in a quick fuck for some cash. i am interested in variety. a different girl each day is my ideal and i may repeat with a special one, especially if she can bring me a friend.

my targets are regular girls, the gray area between nun and prostitute which, here in kenya, is best described by the hours a girl keeps, i have found. if 11:00 at night is too late for her to come out because of work the next day, for example, she is a 'regular girl' by my lights. and within this timetable, this regular girl may want anything and everything from a regular boyfriend to a husband to a sponsor to nothing at all beyond a good fuck. and will most often be happy to accept cash (but not always expect it and, rarely, be offended by the offer) as an expression of her companion's pleasure in her company.

of the seven girls i have fucked in seven days, five have been through afro, one picked up working reception of a local hotel and one met late at night at a local bar while scoring some nyoma choma to bring back for me and the girl i had just shagged. only one a 7/10. one a porn-star spinner. the rest eights and nines.

each was given and happily accepted 1000 shillings for her efforts, except the one who got offended and ended up accepting 500 for the cab. only one asked for anything. i forgot to give one her gift and returned an hour later to slip it under her door (fucked her in her apartment). she texted me her thanks warmly.

i cannot recommend afro strongly enough for someone with similar inclinations to mine. simply because the girls on afro are much less likely to be hardcore pros. thus, the population of girls self-selects for the preferences of a monger with my priorities.

how does it work?

send an email or chat. exchange numbers (a cell is critical). speak. assign a time or place to meet (they have all been willing to come to me). meet. fuck. between ghana, nairobi and now here, i believe i have met around 25 women this way and fucked 20 of them on the first meeting.

more to follow. thank you for this great report, capturing the essence of the shithole mtwapa in beautiful 3dimensional language!

what a pleasure to read. can't wait for the continuation!

if i would only be smart enough to understand the instructions how to nominate you for a report of distinction pat on the back.

R Brandon
01-13-11, 03:57
Thanks for the outstanding report Satyr. Looking forward to more. Kenya is very high on my list for my next new destination. Rbc100

Willyboy
01-13-11, 12:48
During 5 jaer. I did meeting with 500 different girls from afro website.

This girls want love end running away, out of kenya, marriage with one mzungu.

I try to make malayas from this girls. Having sex end sending away. With 1000 or 2000ksh TAXI MONEY (or wath name you will give for this money)

But, last thime, I feel not good to play with this emotions from this poor girls.

Plaese explain my. Wath is the different of pussy between full thime malaya or girl from datingsite girl. If you only want pussy end not love. The rate for pussy is same (taxi money of malayamoney).

Very strangs to say. I not want love. But I make from you prostitution girl. Making problem for yourself in the mind END for the girl.

Member #4148
01-13-11, 14:14
Where to stay:

Spent the first night at Kahama after deplaning. Pleasant place, cheap, nice facilities, etc. But not the sort of experience or landscape I was looking for. Bamburi hotels and their denizens look to me like row upon row of shoal after shoal of pale, fat tourists lying on chaise lounges like sunning seals, barking hoarsely and loudly at one another and the cubs and concubines (male and female) attached to them either by blood or by wallet. Tiny stretches of impenetrable beach trolled by fast-moving touts separate the beached pods from the beckoning ocean. Too difficult to ford, they prefer to lie about, roasting their blubber and drinking beer.

Next two nights spent at Kenda's Arcade. 1400 shillings a night without board. Not recommended. Too loud. No sleep to be had unless earplugs are brought from home. The dancers are lame. Sexy, but overall a paltry experience. Just there to draw patrons to drink. Not much of a thing in itself.

Next night at Kenda's Ocean View. Profoundly misnomeric title as the ocean is nowhere in sight. 1800 shillings for a perfectly adequately room, nice bar and pool and absolutely NO nightlife of any sort the Saturday night I was there. The attraction is that Serena is a ten-minute walk away. But you have to brave the sea of touts along the short walk hawking massages and trinkets and safaris. Recommended for what it is. Too far from native stuff for me.

Next two nights at Merry Villa Flats. Not bad at all. 2 bedrooms. Kitchen. Modest security. 2000 shillings a night. Too much unnecessary room for me. Nice cold fridge, though. Recommended.

Next three nights at Uziel's. 1200 a night. Clean. Recommended. Sociologic treasure. This is where the malayas, regular folks and families live who are apparently here mostly seasonally or transiently. The desk girl I nabbed, it turns out, lives only two doors down from me here. Small world. Asked the guy loafing around downstairs if anyone does laundry (there is no obvious place to have your clothes cleaned that I managed to find in Mtwapa) , he made a call, ten minutes later a girl comes to collect my clothes, two hours later they are drying on the roof – 250 shillings for about 3 kg of clothes). You can rent a spiffy little 125 cc motorcycle from Uzi (the owner) for 400 shillings a day. Insane.

Where to eat:

I am a foodie. A stickler. My priorities when I travel are sampling the best fare of which natives partake when they dine out or do takeaway. The 'fancy' restaurants in unfancy places are almost always disappointing and therefore uninteresting to me unless highly recommended by other foodies. All this being said:

Mtwapa Central Pub serves delicious nyoma choma and great spinach and chips. Nice chapati. The ugali is so-so (African polenta and an acquired taste, even when it's really good). Eat like a pig, have a Tusker, almost no white faces to be seen and all for 600 shillings. Leave Kenda's, hang a right, walk a block or two until you see a disco / restaurant / bar whose name I forget on the left and turn left. It's a couple of yards in on the left.

Little Chef on the Mombasa Road just north of the Posta interchange on the east side of the road. Delicious native fare. Chicken curry first rate. Greens delightfully done. This plus two soda waters (no alcohol) and nice roasted potatoes for 400-500 shillings. Crazy cheap and tasty.

Good coffee cannot be had in Mtwapa, as far as I can tell. Did not sample the tea.

Where to drink:

I did not drink to hunt, as I do not hunt in bars and discos. I drink to drink, to read my book and occasionally to meet other people if it happens.

Eagle's Nest is pleasant, always seems to have a few working girls, and has a nice breeze.

Kenda's has a giant screen TV and usually loud music.

The St. Giorgias Hotel [sic? ] across from Kenda's has a pleasant, second-floor bar with nice breezes and what looked to me like working girls here and there.

Nowhere in Mtwapa did I have a beer which was truly, deeply, adequately cold. Other than from the apartment fridge at either Merry Villa or Uziel's.

Transport:

Matatus are excellent. Cramped and intimidating at first, but soon easy and reliable. 50 shillings into the heart of Mombasa. And if you want to get a choice seat (second row behind the driver) , walk north a few blocks to the gas station. Tuk-tuks also available. From Posta to Serena Beach (where I hung out for half of one day) cost me 200 shillings. Probably got ripped off. But still cheap. A great way to laze around the Serena like a rich person by day and then go back to the wrong side of the tracks at night to fuck and sleep.

Miscellany:

ATM which accepts Visa and M / C right next to the Posta.

Felt no fear and had no safety issues roaming around at night, even on unlit, sparsely populated dirt roads around Kenda's, as late as 0100-0200.

Willyboy
01-13-11, 16:20
what a remarkable place. as those of you who have rtff know, when you cross mtwapa creek, gone is the land of luxury resorts, air-conditioned rooms, swimming pools, restaurants with linen napkins (or even paper ones quite often) or conventional tourist attractions of any sort. the beach is a schlep if you hoof it and no great shakes once you reach it: scummy, seaweed. bedraggled, undeveloped tide pools without chairs or lounges. or even hawkers or touts by and large here north of bamburi. the few pools available are located in off-the-beaten-track little b and b's like kerstin's apartments, where you cannot stand upright for the low-hanging, almost suffocating palms ringing the tiny pool, or prestige apartments, even further removed from the main road and offering only lavish (by local standards) two-bedroom apartments for 4000 shillings a night, bamburi prices and no nightclubs of any sort nearby.

so why on earth would anyone vacation here?

the women. holy shit. the women.

no trip report is useful without a context. in this case, relevant mongering characteristics of the mongerer himself. i am 47, fit, generally considered to be handsome. i have never learned how to be charming in a disco where speech is impossible. i can usually overcome my shyness and approach girls in typical daytime settings like shops and restaurants. my sexual druthers incline toward one very sweaty, very protracted session per day (in excess of one hour and sometimes as long as two or even three) , bringing my partner as many orgasms and as much pleasure as she can stand before i finish, in order to bring her back for more. something of the sexual hero complex here. relevant to the board because i am not interested in bars, discos, dyed-in-the-wool prostitutes or women who are interested in a quick fuck for some cash. i am interested in variety. a different girl each day is my ideal and i may repeat with a special one, especially if she can bring me a friend.

my targets are regular girls, the gray area between nun and prostitute which, here in kenya, is best described by the hours a girl keeps, i have found. if 11:00 at night is too late for her to come out because of work the next day, for example, she is a 'regular girl' by my lights. and within this timetable, this regular girl may want anything and everything from a regular boyfriend to a husband to a sponsor to nothing at all beyond a good fuck. and will most often be happy to accept cash (but not always expect it and, rarely, be offended by the offer) as an expression of her companion's pleasure in her company.

of the seven girls i have fucked in seven days, five have been through afro, one picked up working reception of a local hotel and one met late at night at a local bar while scoring some nyoma choma to bring back for me and the girl i had just shagged. only one a 7/10. one a porn-star spinner. the rest eights and nines.

each was given and happily accepted 1000 shillings for her efforts, except the one who got offended and ended up accepting 500 for the cab. only one asked for anything. i forgot to give one her gift and returned an hour later to slip it under her door (fucked her in her apartment). she texted me her thanks warmly.

i cannot recommend afro strongly enough for someone with similar inclinations to mine. simply because the girls on afro are much less likely to be hardcore pros. thus, the population of girls self-selects for the preferences of a monger with my priorities.

how does it work?

send an email or chat. exchange numbers (a cell is critical). speak. assign a time or place to meet (they have all been willing to come to me). meet. fuck. between ghana, nairobi and now here, i believe i have met around 25 women this way and fucked 20 of them on the first meeting.

more to follow. i inform evrybody that full thime malayas staying also in afro. one yaer ago, i meet one in safari.inn (from afro) 60 mintutes later, i meet her in big tree (by accident). i asking her, you meet my in safari-in end you told my, i want serious relation only. but now you want money fish in big tree. answer of her, i only coming this place for relaxing.

also full malayas want serious relation with mzungu. but one h, want by serious, than one h later malaya first klasse.

i now lot of full thime malayas in datingsite afro. it is only draem to find half-thime malaya in afro. 90 procent of kenya girls fucking for money. maby more.

Willyboy
01-13-11, 17:07
It was only 399 euro. End booking. Ofcours yes (17/1 in Mombasa)

Member #4364
01-13-11, 19:22
Merry Villa; quite during the night? As entertainment; only local TV or international (Music / BBC)?

Thanks

Member #4148
01-14-11, 06:27
SG: Merry Villa is very quiet, well removed from discos. So-called "satellite TV" sucks everywhere I have been. Four or five Kenyan channels. A God channel. Rarely CNN and France 24, seemingly randomly broadcast throughout the day on one of the local channels. At Kenda's Arcade I had an action movie channel. No BBC, No Al Jazeera.

WB: You are absolutely right. One of the girls I met on Afro and fucked at Kenda's (the only one who actually asked me for money) turned up not an hour later loitering on the stoop of Kenda's with two other girls, all looking and behaving quite hardcore in their pursuit of business. It was 0100 or so and I was out looking for a bite. We exchanged an uncomfortable glance, she then flashed me a blazing smile (she is quite lovely) and went right back to chatting with her mates. She had come a number of times with me (no responses please about faking vs real: vaginal wall spasms around my well trained and sensitive fingers are very hard to simulate) and even requested another round. I then remembered that I had met her quite spur-of-the-moment on Afro around 9 pm and she had told me in our chat that she had just gotten in from being out with friends and was just heading to bed when she saw my email. She arrived simply dressed to kill 30 minutes later.

Even the prostitutes here have the potential to astound and amaze with their ability, at least occasionally I suppose, to enjoy their work.

Member #4364
01-14-11, 19:58
Thanks; a quite night is what I need; TV; I had one time an own reciever in my tv-set; paid 2000 ksh / Landlord;

Got all BBC / Al Jazeera; also a music channel; I need a bit entertainment; and the girls loved it also.

Cheers

Fun And Sun
01-15-11, 02:03
I inform evrybody that full thime malayas staying also in afro. One yaer ago, I meet one in safari. Inn (from afro) 60 mintutes later, I meet her in big tree (by accident). I asking her, you meet my in safari-in end you told my, I want serious relation only. But now you want money fish in big tree. Answer of her, I only coming this place for relaxing.

Also full malayas want serious relation with mzungu. But one h, want by serious, than one h later malaya first klasse.

I now lot of full thime malayas in datingsite afro. It is only draem to find half-thime malaya in afro. 90 procent of kenya girls fucking for money. Maby more. I agree with Willyboy on this. Loads of malayas have asked me how they can go about finding a mzungu husband to which I bite my lip and say that being a malaya ain't the way to do it, but instead suggest that they get a job somewhere that there are lots of mzungus like a hotel or a restaurant (which they say they can't since they don't have all their papers). Then I have mentioned afrointroductions, and pretty much all of them were already on it.

Donnylad
01-15-11, 12:04
Hi all. Just to say that with the help of one kind and generous regular on this board, I've sorted a trip to Bamburi in Feb. Will be staying at Kahama. So if anyone else is there at that time and wants to meet up, PM me.

DL

Jbond
01-15-11, 14:35
I agree with Willyboy on this. Loads of malayas have asked me how they can go about finding a mzungu husband to which I bite my lip and say that being a malaya ain't the way to do it, but instead suggest that they get a job somewhere that there are lots of mzungus like a hotel or a restaurant (which they say they can't since they don't have all their papers). Then I have mentioned afrointroductions, and pretty much all of them were already on it.Kenyan women no different to their sisters, wherever you are in the world. The smarter and more beautiful tend to give up their pussy to one guy for emotional and financial security. The less fortunate have to give up their pussy on a regular basis to a conveyor belt of different mzungus to maintain their heirarchy of needs. Some of the smarter and prettier girls in Bamburi / Mtwapa suddenly realise that better to be with one mzungu, rather than having to hide the sausage with a different mzungu every night of the week at Casuarina.

You also have girls on these sites who at the beginning try both ways and look for the innnocents durig the day and then out at night doing their stuff. I have seen many a mzungu especially in South America in love with his perfect, sweet girl only to find her in the clubs at night hiding the sausage with everyone in sight.

One friend who used to come and see me was so in love, he set up this girl with an apartment and everything paid for, to come back early one trip to find an unknown guy there with her, with a huge stash of condoms on the bedside table and a diary of future appointments.

Before you say that wouldn't happen to me, no fellow hunter is immune. There is always one girl out there who will get through your defences and spring the trap by making you feel that you or 'Mr Sausage' have found your 'nirvana', which every hunter is ultimately searching for. So remember, when you are on holiday, it is nothing more than that and should be treated and enjoyed as such.

Expat Kenya
01-15-11, 21:13
Some girls I fuck have a "mzungu husband", not always my types, but they never follow me for more small money. They fuck for fun, or hope to get a second "husband" for more financial security. A while later I see them walking with their "partner" and after he is gone, we drink as hell.

Cheers Mzungu, was better if you read another forum before!


Kenyan women no different to their sisters, wherever you are in the world. The smarter and more beautiful tend to give up their pussy to one guy for emotional and financial security. The less fortunate have to give up their pussy on a regular basis to a conveyor belt of different mzungus to maintain their heirarchy of needs. Some of the smarter and prettier girls in Bamburi / Mtwapa suddenly realise that better to be with one mzungu, rather than having to hide the sausage with a different mzungu every night of the week at Casuarina.

You also have girls on these sites who at the beginning try both ways and look for the innnocents durig the day and then out at night doing their stuff. I have seen many a mzungu especially in South America in love with his perfect, sweet girl only to find her in the clubs at night hiding the sausage with everyone in sight.

One friend who used to come and see me was so in love, he set up this girl with an apartment and everything paid for, to come back early one trip to find an unknown guy there with her, with a huge stash of condoms on the bedside table and a diary of future appointments.

Before you say that wouldn't happen to me, no fellow hunter is immune. There is always one girl out there who will get through your defences and spring the trap by making you feel that you or 'Mr Sausage' have found your 'nirvana', which every hunter is ultimately searching for. So remember, when you are on holiday, it is nothing more than that and should be treated and enjoyed as such.

Jbond
01-16-11, 17:08
Some girls I fuck have a "mzungu husband", not always my types, but they never follow me for more small money. They fuck for fun, or hope to get a second "husband" for more financial security. A while later I see them walking with their "partner" and after he is gone, we drink as hell.

Cheers Mzungu, was better if you read another forum before!Dream on you have a rather high opinion of yourself. Plus you need to be able express yourself properly in English and you obviously don't understand what I am talking about, instead of making some insane comments. Of course I remember you are the guy who likes the idea of drugging and criminal matters against mzungus on holiday.

I suggest you don't belong on this site.

Jbond
01-16-11, 17:53
Kenyan women no different to their sisters, wherever you are in the world. The smarter and more beautiful tend to give up their pussy to one guy for emotional and financial security. The less fortunate have to give up their pussy on a regular basis to a conveyor belt of different mzungus to maintain their heirarchy of needs. Some of the smarter and prettier girls in Bamburi / Mtwapa suddenly realise that better to be with one mzungu, rather than having to hide the sausage with a different mzungu every night of the week at Casuarina.

You also have girls on these sites who at the beginning try both ways and look for the innnocents durig the day and then out at night doing their stuff. I have seen many a mzungu especially in South America in love with his perfect, sweet girl only to find her in the clubs at night hiding the sausage with everyone in sight.

One friend who used to come and see me was so in love, he set up this girl with an apartment and everything paid for, to come back early one trip to find an unknown guy there with her, with a huge stash of condoms on the bedside table and a diary of future appointments.

Before you say that wouldn't happen to me, no fellow hunter is immune. There is always one girl out there who will get through your defences and spring the trap by making you feel that you or 'Mr Sausage' have found your 'nirvana', which every hunter is ultimately searching for. So remember, when you are on holiday, it is nothing more than that and should be treated and enjoyed as such. Adding to my thoughts, I hope everyone on the Mombasa thread have been reading the exploits of a working girl in Nairobi.

www.nairobinights.co.cc

Here is an excerpt of Episode 2, which is relevant and talks about how to trap a Mzungu.

"The dream of course is to land a white man because of the money and prestige associated with it. But the white men in this city are too clever to fall for a prostitute unless of course if they want some sort of sex slave in the house. THE FOOLISH ONES ARE ON THE COAST.

I am not interested in marriage. I know very well I can't remain faithful or locked up in the house the whole night. But I want a kid. Yeah, a kid. And the father will certainly be a client with the right genes. Ironically to a man with the right genes will be the last to have unprotected sex with a prostitute. And that's a challenge, at the right time, I will have to trick the right man to his seed inside me".

The working girl who writes these episodes works on Koinange St, where I walk by at night on the way to Madhouse. This also gives you an idea of how us fellow hunters can sometimes unwittingly be the hunted! While this is always interlinked with not paying too much however much pressure there is on you to do so. In a way to preserve fruitful hunting for the future.

'I rest my case, my lord'. As Rumpole used to say in summing up at the Old Bailey.

Expat Kenya
01-17-11, 15:23
Dream on you have a rather high opinion of yourself. Plus you need to be able express yourself properly in English and you obviously don't understand what I am talking about, instead of making some insane comments. Of course I remember you are the guy who likes the idea of drugging and criminal matters against mzungus on holiday.

I suggest you don't belong on this site.Jbond, tell me where I ever address anyone on this forum in person? Or where I did I ever like drugging? What is the difference between criminal matters against mzungus on holiday or criminal matters between other people? It seems, you interpret my post in the way you wand to read them. Your posts can be interpreted any way because they don't have an opinion or point of view about what you are writing. I know my world. Sex means as little as a slice of bread here, so sex doesn't have any value to someone who does or does not have a high opinion of himself. To think an average mzungu on holiday is so special, thats is what I think is having a high opinion about yourself, probably being a mzungu?

Here is a wide misunderstanding guys, girls / kenyans make you FEEL like you are special because you may be a mzungu. If only you knew.

Expat Kenya
01-17-11, 15:24
Dream on you have a rather high opinion of yourself. Plus you need to be able express yourself properly in English and you obviously don't understand what I am talking about, instead of making some insane comments. Of course I remember you are the guy who likes the idea of drugging and criminal matters against mzungus on holiday.

I suggest you don't belong on this site.
Dream on you have a rather high opinion of yourself. Plus you need to be able express yourself properly in English and you obviously don't understand what I am talking about, instead of making some insane comments. Of course I remember you are the guy who likes the idea of drugging and criminal matters against mzungus on holiday.

I suggest you don't belong on this site.Jbond, tell me where I ever address anyone on this forum in person? Or where I did I ever like drugging? What is the difference between criminal matters against mzungus on holiday or criminal matters between other people? It seems, you interpret my post in the way you wand to read them. Your posts can be interpreted any way because they don't have an opinion or point of view about what you are writing. I know my world. Sex means as little as a slice of bread here, so sex doesn't have any value to someone who does or does not have a high opinion of himself. To think an average mzungu on holiday is so special, thats is what I think is having a high opinion about yourself, probably being a mzungu?

Here is a wide misunderstanding guys, girls / Kenyans make you FEEL like you are special because you may be a mzungu. If only you knew.

Lantern1
01-18-11, 11:37
Jbond, tell me where I ever address anyone on this forum in person? Or where I did I ever like drugging? What is the difference between criminal matters against mzungus on holiday or criminal matters between other people? It seems, you interpret my post in the way you wand to read them. Your posts can be interpreted any way because they don't have an opinion or point of view about what you are writing. I know my world. Sex means as little as a slice of bread here, so sex doesn't have any value to someone who does or does not have a high opinion of himself. To think an average mzungu on holiday is so special, thats is what I think is having a high opinion about yourself, probably being a mzungu?

Here is a wide misunderstanding guys, girls / Kenyans make you FEEL like you are special because you may be a mzungu. If only you knew. I think the important phrase here is" they don't have a high opinion of themselves"

Am I right, Expat, to say that some girls do this because they really have no choice but as soon as their circumstances change they can also become 'normal' girls? If you do this because it is an'easy' way to make money, of course then sex will mean nothing. I am very sure that there are ladies out there that would give anything just to have a normal life. You are very right to say that mzungus will be fooled by the pro girls, especially if they don't do their home work and try to find out and keep making sure, by means fair or foul of ongoing fidelity.

Jbond
01-18-11, 19:03
Some girls I fuck have a "mzungu husband", not always my types, but they never follow me for more small money. They fuck for fun, or hope to get a second "husband" for more financial security. A while later I see them walking with their "partner" and after he is gone, we drink as hell.

Cheers Mzungu, was better if you read another forum before! Again in your own words above, with all the single women on offer you are sneaking around targetting mzungu wives.

Really unpleasant, you should be ashamed of yourself. Just not nice, not nice at all!

If I see a couple together then the girl in the equation is totally off limits.

My response was for the disrespectful remark to me and all the mzungus you have enjoyed stabbing in the back. Your remarks alone to various comments on the forum show contempt and a clear dislike for everyone at ISG.

Which from your latest post has turned into a pure torrent of hatred to anyone you describe as a mzungu.

As I said before and I am surprised you don't agree, this is not the right forum for you.

Member #4148
01-19-11, 06:44
Having satisfied my desire to rough it away from swimming pools and air-conditioning, paved roads and 200-shilling tuskers, I decided to relocate to Mombasa.

My luggage and I sitting side-by-side (double fare = 100 shillings) in a matatu bound for the downtown Posta, premium sound system pounding out gangsta reggae and rap (it is astonishing how many piece-of-shit vans sport state-of-the-art audio in this town) , I wondered how the cosmopolitan scene would differ. As it turns out, it did not particularly.

More Afro girls, one waitress. Simply no shortage. One even brought me a copy of the music video she had just eye-candied in. Exquisite girl. Sexually explosive. Moaned about my "beautiful African cock." Everyone got 1000 plus whatever dinner and drinks they consumed. Only one disappointing experience among 12 separate sexual encounters with separate partners: a threesome with two girls imported from Diani who maintained they were happy and comfortable to interact with each other, but were not. One was a starfish and the two shared my cock orally with reluctance and in most lackluster fashion after much cajoling. 3000 for both (really overpaid but felt badly for the commute behind and ahead of them. I know, I know. Spare me.) They claimed they had never done this before. Insisted that next time they would be more into each other. All bullshit of course to keep me coming back. An example of malayas (and rather poor representatives at that) on Afro.

My first Indian girl, also met through Afro, shunned by family as a single mom and looking to be swept away to some other land. Nerdy and bespectacled librarian type transformed into tiny spinner, multi-orgasmic, inexperienced, ravenous nymphomaniac. Delightful. And bright. In some ways the best experience of the trip for the novelty. Kept begging me to teach her more (other girls, bondage, fucking in the water. The odd variety of her requests a testament to her sincerity and newness, to me).

Stayed at the Sapphire Hotel. 5000 shillings a night, revolving-door double. A / C (sorta worked) , CRAP TV once again, big room, king bed, hot water, pool, superb gym, nice rooftop bar, only two cockroaches sighted. A fifteen minute walk from Casablanca. Off the beaten trail just enough to be quiet. Recommended.

Singh's restaurant. Excellent Indian fare. Indo-Africa. Excellent Indian fare. Ate only at these two places. Better the devils you love than the devils you don't know.

The reality of Mombasa is not quite as bleak, in my view, as WB and F&S would suggest. They are right when they say that many hardcore malayas masquerade as middle-zone, regular girls on Afro. But they are wrong when they say that there are not some regular girls as well ("regular" according to the African definition). I simply cannot believe that the continent's collective ability to pull the wool over my eyes exceeds in every encounter my own not inconsiderable ability to distinguish truth from twaddle.

But, of course, this is just my impression. I cannot prove that all these girls were NOT lying to me about their normal jobs, their normal single-mom status, their desperation, their youth, their loneliness, their hopes, their relative sexual inexperience regarding number of partners. Some of it rang just too true, just as some of it rang false.

Like most things in life, the truth usually comes down somewhere between the extremes.

I will miss this place.

Lordy, I will miss Mombasa.

Expat Kenya
01-19-11, 11:39
i think the important phrase here is" they don't have a high opinion of themselves"

am i right, expat, to say that some girls do this because they really have no choice but as soon as their circumstances change they can also become 'normal' girls? if you do this because it is an'easy' way to make money, of course then sex will mean nothing. i am very sure that there are ladies out there that would give anything just to have a normal life. you are very right to say that mzungus will be fooled by the pro girls, especially if they don't do their home work and try to find out and keep making sure, by means fair or foul of ongoing fidelity. latern1, for most of the girls it is very hard to get out of the business, even if they have a mzungu. peer pressure is high between the girls. if a girl is connected through a 'friend', mail or female to a mzungu, that friend wands something to keep quiet about the real life style of the girl. a mail friend she can give small money every now and than, provided by the mzungu, or pays him with sex. a female friend can be paid with money, clothes, even shelter in her apartment. when she is so close, she knows everything and the circle continues.

maybe that's why ladies can be so jealous and don't wand her mzungu to talk to other ladies and men? those friends know too much, they wand a mzungu all for themselves.

another factor, anything can happen. what if a 'friend' tells the mzungu a lie about her life, or the truth which she doesn't wand him to know? it is better to have a financial back up, another mzungu, or a kenyan boyfriend who she pays who will protect her and keep off her other friends.

last, she can get addicted to a lifestyle with lots of money, partying and sex, she finally feels she is in control of others.

not all girls are the same, some are really serious, and it is hard to tell because they're all secretive.

peer pressure by friends, lack of commitment, afraid to bond because of earlier experiences in life (does she have a child? where is the father? why did he leave her?) , greed, addictions and some times an attitude that mzungus are only good for money keeps these girls in business and their tragic life styles.

Member #4294
01-19-11, 18:52
Hi, I am in Mombassa. Anyone else up for meeting? Send me a private message.

Member #4178
01-19-11, 19:37
A real traveller & adventure's that knows how to enjoy life!

You also proves that afro method is a e very powerful tool.

So lets see, you fucked almost half all the girls and moves among 10 different hotels. I miss that feeling.

Hope you can add some more words about the succession ratio of the blind dates, meaning how many meeting were translated into sex, and how fast and smooth it was.

Next month I will be in nairobi and kampala equipped with afro phone numbers.

Thanks for the detail reports.

J

Expat Kenya
01-19-11, 20:26
Hi, I am in Mombassa. Anyone else up for meeting? Send me a private message.Send a PM to Willyboy, he's here for a few more days, I'll tell him to check his Pm.

Member #4294
01-20-11, 02:00
Send a PM to Willyboy, he's here for a few more days, I'll tell him to check his Pm.Thanks, will do :P

Member #4148
01-20-11, 03:40
Hope you can add some more words about the succession ratio of the blind dates, meaning how many meeting were translated into sex, and how fast and smooth it was.

JLet's see: 15 days. 13 dates. 14 girls. 100 percent first-date success rate.

I'm tired. Back home. Sad.

Expat Kenya
01-22-11, 12:36
Let's see: 15 days. 13 dates. 14 girls. 100 percent first-date success rate.

I'm tired. Back home. Sad.Great results you have there!


Again in your own words above, with all the single women on offer you are sneaking around targetting mzungu wives.

Really unpleasant, you should be ashamed of yourself. Just not nice, not nice at all!

If I see a couple together then the girl in the equation is totally off limits.

My response was for the disrespectful remark to me and all the mzungus you have enjoyed stabbing in the back. Your remarks alone to various comments on the forum show contempt and a clear dislike for everyone at ISG.

Which from your latest post has turned into a pure torrent of hatred to anyone you describe as a mzungu.

As I said before and I am surprised you don't agree, this is not the right forum for you. I am a mzungu too my friend. I don't consider my money or color to me more than a rich or poor African, I think that is the difference. Mzungus are married when they've agreed with the wife's family and paid dowry. If they've done that, I keep my hands off too. If not, marriage or relationship means sh*t and she can and will be approached by other men.

Jbond
01-22-11, 12:42
Your posts can be interpreted any way because they don't have an opinion or point of view about what you are writing. I know my world. Sex means as little as a slice of bread here, so sex doesn't have any value to someone who does or does not have a high opinion of himself. To think an average mzungu on holiday is so special, thats is what I think is having a high opinion about yourself, probably being a mzungu?

Here is a wide misunderstanding guys, girls / Kenyans make you FEEL like you are special because you may be a mzungu. If only you knew.So, our friends in Nairobi are coming to the same conclusion, there is a mole in the Kenya forum. Do we know if our ISG operative is still safe and blogging on the local 'Mombasa Pimp and Working Girls forum'? If not we can make a swap. It really does make me misty eyed for the old days. Where there would be a gentle softening up and extraction of information before bundling the individual across 'Checkpoint Charlie' in exchange for our man, followed by refreshments at Cafe Adler. A far more humane process would you believe than the long line of angry mzungu husbands on the prowl in Bamburi / Mtwapa could envisage for the above, if they knew his true identity.

However, if the mole refuses to go quietly could he / she be reminded that ISG is for fellow comrades in arms offering advice, help and support to those looking for fun and love in the sun or more simply helping 'Mr Sausage find Nirvana '. So let's concentrate on those future entertaining reports of distinction.

On a more serious note, I would suggest us fellow hunters are not too specific on your movements until after the event or holiday. For all we know, more dubious parties could be gleaning info for their own ulterior motives.

Expat Kenya
01-24-11, 06:33
Well, this post should be doubtingly entertaining.


So, our friends in Nairobi are coming to the same conclusion, there is a mole in the Kenya forum. Do we know if our ISG operative is still safe and blogging on the local 'Mombasa Pimp and Working Girls forum'? If not we can make a swap. It really does make me misty eyed for the old days. Where there would be a gentle softening up and extraction of information before bundling the individual across 'Checkpoint Charlie' in exchange for our man, followed by refreshments at Cafe Adler. A far more humane process would you believe than the long line of angry mzungu husbands on the prowl in Bamburi / Mtwapa could envisage for the above, if they knew his true identity.

However, if the mole refuses to go quietly could he / she be reminded that ISG is for fellow comrades in arms offering advice, help and support to those looking for fun and love in the sun or more simply helping 'Mr Sausage find Nirvana '. So let's concentrate on those future entertaining reports of distinction.

On a more serious note, I would suggest us fellow hunters are not too specific on your movements until after the event or holiday. For all we know, more dubious parties could be gleaning info for their own ulterior motives. Aren't we all anonymous on ISG? When its time for a discussion "I ask help from my friends"."he is not fare"."he is someone else"."Expat is impudent"."his English is not good"."he is dangerous"."catch the mole"."you do not belong here". Maybe entertaining for some, but in anyway not informative at all. Moderators can distinguish emails and IP-addresses at one simple look. No need to get misty eyes on your old days, just keep your eyes closed and continue writing nonsense.

Jbond
01-24-11, 18:03
Well, this post should be doubtingly entertaining.As I said before, ISG is for fellow comrades in arms offering advice, help and support to those looking for fun and love in the sun or more simply helping 'Mr Sausage find nirvana '. So let's concentrate on those future entertaining reports of distinction.

This ethos could only be nonsense to you. Someone who continues to be disrespectful and as you said, you can't be trusted, when you see other people together or in a relationship, especially if they are a mzungu. Who hides behind his anonymity, too afraid to face anyone. You are not informative but just a rather sad study in extreme unpleasantness, not nice, not nice at all. You started this and I will finish it on behalf of all of those you have wronged.

Bengt66
01-29-11, 15:16
Hi fellow mongers. I have been reading posts here about Mombasa and have now got interested in going there, planning my trip now sometime in the middle of February to taste som nice "roast beef" (dark and tender on the outside and pink and juicy on the inside).

This is not my first trip to Africa, have been in SA, Mocambique, Botswana and Zimbabwe but it is my virgin trip to Mombasa so I need som tips and input from you all.

1. Arriving at the airport, is there a taxi stand outside or just to grab one? The price is as I understand around 2000 ksh for example going to Mtwapa or Bamburi beach, yes?

2. Hotel or apartment: I would like to stay on the beach between Mombasa and Mtwapa, the price range around 50. 60 euro any suggestions / recommendations for hotel or apartments? Or is it better chance of good lodging and stay in Mtwapa?

3. If staying in Mtwapa how far is it to the beach and the action and how to go there?

4. Is it possible to rent a small motorbike to go around with during daytime instead of taxi?

I thank you in advance for helping me out on my questions and hope that I can post a good report after my trip.

Member #4148
01-29-11, 18:32
Hi fellow mongers. I have been reading posts here about Mombasa and have now got interested in going there, planning my trip now sometime in the middle of February to taste som nice "roast beef" (dark and tender on the outside and pink and juicy on the inside).

This is not my first trip to Africa, have been in SA, Mocambique, Botswana and Zimbabwe but it is my virgin trip to Mombasa so I need som tips and input from you all.

1. Arriving at the airport, is there a taxi stand outside or just to grab one? The price is as I understand around 2000 ksh for example going to Mtwapa or Bamburi beach, yes?

2. Hotel or apartment: I would like to stay on the beach between Mombasa and Mtwapa, the price range around 50. 60 euro any suggestions / recommendations for hotel or apartments? Or is it better chance of good lodging and stay in Mtwapa?

3. If staying in Mtwapa how far is it to the beach and the action and how to go there?

4. Is it possible to rent a small motorbike to go around with during daytime instead of taxi?

I thank you in advance for helping me out on my questions and hope that I can post a good report after my trip.You say you have read. And yet it seems you have not absorbed.

1. 1500 to Kahama.

2. Kahama is 3950 kenyan shillings per day for a double. Mtwapa lodging can be had for 1/3 the price.

3. The beach is a brisk 20 minute walk from Kenda's Arcade, a brisk 10 minute walk from Kirsten's. Mtwapa is not the place to go to be near the beach. The action, on the other hand, is all around you.

4. Motorbikes available through Uziel (the owner of Uziel Apartments) for 400 Kenyan shillings a day. About five dollars.