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Musomba2006
05-02-07, 12:26
The Lucky Guy,

Nice report but one flaw. You say that Kenyan men dont treat their women well in bed? Dont mislead people in this forum. Feel good about being white and getting black pussy but dont think whites are better than blacks no matter what the women tell you ( remember they are prostitutes and also give free sex to blacks plus will do what they can to make you feel special whether white or black).

As a Black Kenyan with considerable experience with Black prostitutes, there are many women who feel blacks are better than whites and that whites are good for the money but blacks are good for the sex. You need only remember the times the US marines use to come to Mombasa. girls from all over east africa would congergate to sample the mameni (African Americans).

Going on about Whites being better than Blacks is not only false, its not in good taste.

Musomba2006
05-03-07, 08:08
Forest -- If you read the forum, you will find the following claims substantiated:

(1) In Kenya, almost any woman, married or not, is game.
(2) If you see a regular girl you like, do as you would with any regular girl in any other country -- but without hesitation. Whether in a shop, asking for directions (a good excuse always) or whatever, ask her for a cup of coffee, for a drink, or invite her for lunch or dinner. Take it from there. You may be turned down occasionally, but that is not likely as long as you project yourself as a nice and trustworthy character.
(3) It is customary that with a regular, just as with a semi-pro or pro, some monetary token of appreciation changes hands. This is expected and is no reflection on the lady's morals or virtue. But a regular girl may be deeply offended, if you start asking about the price.
(4) Learn the Kenyan lingo. At some point during your conversation, you might ask the object of your desire questions that could be understood many ways. Like: "Do you like to move?" (Kenyan for do you want to fuck). Or, "Do you smoke?" (Kenyan for doing oral). That latter question in particular can generate a long conversation if you know how to converse.
(5) If you need a cab driver as a go-between to talk to African women, you are not a monger but an inept slouch who should stay where such paid intermediaries are needed.
Let me repeat this: Trying to use a go-between is about the worst idea you can think of. The regular woman you are trying hit on is not going to be interested in a Kenyan taxi driver or some unwashed tout; she is interested in you, a foreigner, if she is interested at all.
A particular reason to avoid go-betweens is that many Kenyan men have a bad reputation (some are known to beat women). So you don't want to send a guy you know nothing about to conduct a delicate approach. Do yourself a favor and be a man. Gather your courage (with whatever it takes) and deal with the object of your desire directly.
Happily, in Kenya, such initiative is usually rewarded.Kenyan men have a bad reputation? Absolute Bullshit! You seem to forget that Most Black Kenyan women marry and have kids with....Black Kenyan men. Most Black Kenyan Women have Black Kenyan boyfriends. Black Kenyan men have access to unspoilt hotties that you Mzungus dont have any access to simply because you are White and therefore cannot go to certain places.

In Fact the girls you are most likley to come across would have been fucked by many Blacks already so stop bullshitting about Black go betweens.

Musomba2006
05-03-07, 12:39
I stand by my statement, which is based on several years of experience in Kenya. Thanks for RTFF, though.And I stand by mine which is based on the 40 odd years in which I was born and brought up in Kenya.

Spelman
05-03-07, 16:09
The Lucky Guy,

Girls from all over east africa would congergate to sample the mameni (African Americans).

Going on about Whites being better than Blacks is not only false, its not in good taste.Sorry man but I do need to agree with some of what both LG and Vitty are saying, but not all.

I have been working in Africa for many years and I have many Black friends, both women and guys.

You are right in what you are saying that black chicks are saying certain things to both black and whites just to make the hole in your pocket bigger.

What I do know is that Black chicks have in there mind that whites are more honest and are not cheating on them, will treat them better then the black dude will do. But in many cases that is not really the truth, whites are doing the same thing as the black dude are doing mongering :-) and what can we do we are all punters right.
I have a very close friend in Congo and every time when I am in town and my friend are not in his home when he should be he his wife is calling me and asking me I know were here husband is and telling me that here husband (my friend) is so bad he is always doing someone else when he should be home with here and there kids etc etc and that he should be more like me take more family responsibilities etc not running around with all these other girls all the time, but what she don’t know is that most of the time we are mongering together ;-)

One more thing Musomba, when a white guy like me and other white guys got there first taste of black pu$$y there are no way back (whites don’t do it for me anymore) ;-)

Two more picture of my ex girlfriend in Congo :-)

Cheers

Spelman

Pumui
05-03-07, 21:47
Kenyan men have a bad reputation? Absolute Bullshit! You seem to forget that Most Black Kenyan women marry and have kids with....Black Kenyan men. Most Black Kenyan Women have Black Kenyan boyfriends. Black Kenyan men have access to unspoilt hotties that you Mzungus dont have any access to simply because you are White and therefore cannot go to certain places.

In Fact the girls you are most likley to come across would have been fucked by many Blacks already so stop bullshitting about Black go betweens.My friend,

I kinda understand your anger about the comments on your fellow countrymen, but I think you should be fare and admit that domestic violence is a problem. The fact that the majority of Kenyan women are married to Kenyan boyfrieends has got nothing to do with it. Guess to whom most Australian women are married? Right, Australien men. And Angolan Women? Right, you guessed it.

And I find it strange that you defend taxi drivers. Judging from your appearance on a forum like this, I would think you are probably closer in terms of class and standing to Vittu then to a taxi driver, even if he happens to be from your country. And come on, we all know the bumpsters, they are like this.

But more important, why do you make a distinction between Kenyan Men and WHITE men? Should it not be a distinction between foreigners and Kenyan men? I believe you saying that Kenian men have certain advantages due to their home turf, but what is the colour issue got to do with it? Are you sure Vittu is white? He might be black, yellow or red (though I doubt green).

So could we please, at least on this forum, where everybody seems to be eager to have a good time with as many asses in as many different colours as possible, stop being racially biased?

The Lucky Guy
05-03-07, 23:29
The Lucky Guy,

Nice report but one flaw. You say that Kenyan men dont treat their women well in bed? Dont mislead people in this forum. Feel good about being white and getting black pussy but dont think whites are better than blacks no matter what the women tell you ( remember they are prostitutes and also give free sex to blacks plus will do what they can to make you feel special whether white or black).

As a Black Kenyan with considerable experience with Black prostitutes, there are many women who feel blacks are better than whites and that whites are good for the money but blacks are good for the sex. You need only remember the times the US marines use to come to Mombasa. girls from all over east africa would congergate to sample the mameni (African Americans).

Going on about Whites being better than Blacks is not only false, its not in good taste.Hi Musomba!

Just a quick reply:

I definitely don't mean that there is an inherent difference between black and white.

Its not a RACIAL thing, it can be a cultural thing. Its well known, thru different surveys that it is a difference between different European men and women in their action in bed, BUT, more importantly, their overall treatment of the other sex. In other words, it’s a difference between WHITE men in their treatment of women.

To report critics about Kenyan men, may or may not be the absolute truth, BUT, it is definitely not a critic specifically differentiating between black and white men.

However, my conclusion is not only based on this forum but from speaking to both ladies AND men in Kenya. Whether it's the ultimate truth or not, guys I spoke with declared that Kenyan men is just banging the ladies and the ladies confirmed that without hesitation.

I would like to emphasise that I don't claim this to be a scientifically proven fact; I am just reporting my impressions, nothing more nothing less.

But again, I really don't want to offend anyone, especially not on racial grounds.

Musomba2006
05-04-07, 07:34
My friend,

I kinda understand your anger about the comments on your fellow countrymen, but I think you should be fare and admit that domestic violence is a problem. The fact that the majority of Kenyan women are married to Kenyan boyfrieends has got nothing to do with it. Guess to whom most Australian women are married? Right, Australien men. And Angolan Women? Right, you guessed it.

And I find it strange that you defend taxi drivers. Judging from your appearance on a forum like this, I would think you are probably closer in terms of class and standing to Vittu then to a taxi driver, even if he happens to be from your country. And come on, we all know the bumpsters, they are like this.

But more important, why do you make a distinction between Kenyan Men and WHITE men? Should it not be a distinction between foreigners and Kenyan men? I believe you saying that Kenian men have certain advantages due to their home turf, but what is the colour issue got to do with it? Are you sure Vittu is white? He might be black, yellow or red (though I doubt green).

So could we please, at least on this forum, where everybody seems to be eager to have a good time with as many asses in as many different colours as possible, stop being racially biased?This is what offended me:-

"A particular reason to avoid go-betweens is that many Kenyan men have a bad reputation (some are known to beat women)."

He is suggesting that if you send a Kenyan, chances are he will beat the girl into accepting to go with the white guy, or the girl will refuse to go with the White guy because he sent a 'Kenyan' to look for her.

1) A go between will operate in the company of the foreigner therefore the girl will get to see the foreigner (or the foreigner will see the girl and than ask the go between to get her for him, or the girl will ask the go between to get the white guy for her)) so even if the Kenyan was a woman beater, there is no way that negative streak will negativley impact the deal.

2) He refers to Kenyans in general (male or female)..not only taxi drivers and smelly touts. He is saying Kenyans are bad people. Technically that also includes me.

3) Some foreigners new to Kenya may just prefer a Kenyan to do the initial hunting for him while being taken on a personal guided tour so Vittu is bad business for Kenyans seeking to earn a honest living proividing site seeing services etc etc for Foreigners new to Kenya. I cant just sit and let his rubbish go unswept.

Pet Phunt
05-05-07, 04:22
This is what offended me:-

"A particular reason to avoid go-betweens is that many Kenyan men have a bad reputation (some are known to beat women)."

He is suggesting that if you send a Kenyan, chances are he will beat the girl into accepting to go with the white guy, or the girl will refuse to go with the White guy because he sent a 'Kenyan' to look for her.

1) A go between will operate in the company of the foreigner therefore the girl will get to see the foreigner (or the foreigner will see the girl and than ask the go between to get her for him, or the girl will ask the go between to get the white guy for her)) so even if the Kenyan was a woman beater, there is no way that negative streak will negativley impact the deal.

2) He refers to Kenyans in general (male or female)..not only taxi drivers and smelly touts. He is saying Kenyans are bad people. Technically that also includes me.

3) Some foreigners new to Kenya may just prefer a Kenyan to do the initial hunting for him while being taken on a personal guided tour so Vittu is bad business for Kenyans seeking to earn a honest living proividing site seeing services etc etc for Foreigners new to Kenya. I cant just sit and let his rubbish go unswept.Will you guys stop this? I do not visit here for stuff like these. Let's stick to the usual fun please. This should be the end of it. Please.

Musomba2006
05-05-07, 10:13
There are some really cute and pettite Bantu ( i.e not Somali, Ethiopian or mixed blood) African girls who dont go to places like casurina, tembo and other mongering places. They are typically found in their homes and have local boyfriends. This one is now married to her man who works as a casual laborer in one of the hotels in Kenya. I knew her through a female friend. She has nice butt and pussy. Enjoy.

The Lucky Guy
05-05-07, 20:28
There are some really cute and pettite Bantu ( i.e not Somali, Ethiopian or mixed blood) African girls who dont go to places like casurina, tembo and other mongering places. They are typically found in their homes and have local boyfriends. This one is now married to her man who works as a casual laborer in one of the hotels in Kenya. I knew her through a female friend. She has nice butt and pussy. Enjoy.Oooch! God damn what a babe, seeing her almost hurts! Do you have more pictures? At least you got to have a picture called lover01.jpg!?

Taste is different but that girl is really in line with my taste!

(PS! You wouldn't mind to PM me contact details, would you?)

Schuerzenjaeger
05-07-07, 00:13
There are some really cute and pettite Bantu ( i.e not Somali, Ethiopian or mixed blood) African girls who dont go to places like casurina, tembo and other mongering places. They are typically found in their homes and have local boyfriends. This one is now married to her man who works as a casual laborer in one of the hotels in Kenya. I knew her through a female friend. She has nice butt and pussy. Enjoy.I think we should all follow that track.

Musomba, to the lead!

Musomba2006
05-07-07, 10:03
Oooch! God damn what a babe, seeing her almost hurts! Do you have more pictures? At least you got to have a picture called lover01.jpg!?

Taste is different but that girl is really in line with my taste!

(PS! You wouldn't mind to PM me contact details, would you?)Hi,

I will upload more photos of her soon, meanwhile there is some video of her over at www.chikicho.com i.e kaka.wmv and concubine.wmv if you are interested.

Musomba2006
05-07-07, 11:08
More pics of this girl (before she became pregnant).

Musomba2006
05-07-07, 13:59
I don't know how it's like with foreign mongerers, but being a local mongerer can be fraught with problems. Last month at Casablanca I met a nice (or so I thought) Somali. Yeah. I invited her for a drink and bought her some food etc etc. While she was busy eating one of her lady friends came by and after some somali talk she turned to me asking to buy her friend a beer. OK I oblidged. After a few minutes her long lost brother (the one she thought she left behind in Nairobi) showed up. After yet more somali talk she turned to me and asked to buy him a beer. Again I oblidged since this somali had that kind of body I just had to see naked. After a while we decided to move downstairs to watch the pole dancers. While there she excused herself to take some cigarettes to her brother. After 10 minutes she came back with yet another somali lady friend and asked me to give her 200 kshs so she can buy drinks. I had to drop her in the end. Do foreigners experience this kind of hyena mentality from the women they meet in Kenya?

Anyway. Here is a girl who you can find in places like Tembo, Casurina and sometimes in the hotels.

Barri
05-07-07, 21:00
Do foreigners experience this kind of hyena mentality from the women they meet in Kenya?
Hi Musomba, Yes unfortunately it happens (not only in Kenya). Like you I tend to oblige, (becuse I want to appear as gentleman ;)) but nowadays I have made it my principle to only oblige to the first request.

Here is a girl who you can find in places like Tembo, Casurina and sometimes in the hotelsAh! Lovely tits on 01!! It is so good to see! Nice work!

Barri
05-07-07, 21:20
...meanwhile there is some video of her over at www.chikicho.com i.e kaka.wmv and concubine.wmv if you are interested.Musomba, I was very excited by your video link, but unfortunately my computer could not open the files (after a succesful download), neither via Quicktime nor Windows Media Player. Maybe it's because I use Apple??? Anyone else with the same problem?

Ebony Lvr
05-07-07, 21:31
Musomba, I was very excited by your video link, but unfortunately my computer could not open the files (after a succesful download), neither via Quicktime nor Windows Media Player. Maybe it's because I use Apple??? Anyone else with the same problem?Barri, you couldn't open the files because they are DRM protected: they are commercial content and need a $10 license to open.

Gesheft
05-07-07, 22:01
Thanks Musomba2006 .. nice to have local input here.

.... guess that you'll be a regular poster .. as compared to us visiting Mzungo Mongerers ?? :)

The Lucky Guy
05-07-07, 22:21
Do foreigners experience this kind of hyena mentality from the women they meet in Kenya? Yes, but I don't need to leave my home country for that, you can find them anywhere. At Tembo and Causarina it's not that bad but at Casablanca/Mombasa i really got fed up just within minutes. One or two beers can be OK - but not if it's every minute.


Anyway. Here is a girl who you can find in places like Tembo, Casurina and sometimes in the hotels. Gravity must have stopped working for a while! Amazing!

Hesekiels
05-07-07, 22:35
I don't know how it's like with foreign mongerers, ... Do foreigners experience this kind of hyena mentality from the women they meet in Kenya?




Musomba2006:

Sure, that's very common! Damn, I cannot count how many bottles Tusker I have paid at Simmers for so called "relatives"!? But, don't worry, in Ghana, Gabon and Cameroon you can expect rather the same. The only news to me is that even local mongerers encounter exactly the same "problem" like Mazungus!

Cheers - Hesekiels

The Lucky Guy
05-07-07, 22:39
meanwhile there is some video of her over at www.chikicho.com i.e kaka.wmv and concubine.wmv if you are interested.
Musomba, I was very excited by your video link, but unfortunately my computer could not open the files (after a succesful download), neither via Quicktime nor Windows Media Player. Maybe it's because I use Apple??? Anyone else with the same problem?
Barri, you couldn't open the files because they are DRM protected: they are commercial content and need a $10 license to open.I think it is because of Apple/Mac. I have Mac myself and If I remember right Mac don't support DRM.

The site says: "Content on the CD is DRM protected to prevent piracy, content on this site is NON DRM" and "Achived files (DRM protected) Password = mountainman."

It's a bit confusing but it must mean that they give away the password and that you shouldn't have to pay anything. Or?

Musomba, can you view the videos with just entering the password? Do you have PC?


More pics of this girl (before she became pregnant).Yes, she is great! What is the story, how did you meet her, as she doesn’t go out?

Musomba2006
05-08-07, 10:01
I think it is because of Apple/Mac. I have Mac myself and If I remember right Mac don't support DRM.

The site says: "Content on the CD is DRM protected to prevent piracy, content on this site is NON DRM" and "Achived files (DRM protected) Password = mountainman."

It's a bit confusing but it must mean that they give away the password and that you shouldn't have to pay anything. Or?

Musomba, can you view the videos with just entering the password? Do you have PC?

Yes, she is great! What is the story, how did you meet her, as she doesn’t go out?I am very much a photo/video mongerer. Generally there is more choice since there are cute girls who will get naked for the camera but refuse sex. So if no sex then there are at least some pics and videos of her showing me all she has got. Hee. Heee. I have set up the chikicho website (not really to get rich as porn is not the lucrative thing it once was in the 90's, but In an effort to recover some of the costs involved as I don't earn all that much anway). I have a PC. The password is to be able to access the files in the ******** folder. You will still need a license to activate it. I am working on creating a non drm section for guys like you who use Mac computers.

I was looking for girls to 'model' for me. She is related to the scout I was using and agreed to photos and videos but no sex. She comes from a strict muslim family so spends her time at home or managing a safaricom vending kiosk. She is due to be married in 3 months time to the guy who made her pregnant. I think he sensed trouble after noticing she is getting money some other guy (I. E me) so he 'marked his territory' so to speak. She still calls me but pregant girls are'nt of much use to me unless I did it. Which will only happen after much much contemplation of the concequences; ) So, for the moment, she is not of any use. Maybe a year or so after giving birth when she will need money to feed her kid. I am not sure she will maintain her petite body shape. There is this thing about single girls without kids looking all slim and sexy, but when they get married and have kids they grow fat and flabby.

Musomba2006
05-08-07, 11:53
Musomba2006:

Sure, that's very common! Damn, I cannot count how many bottles Tusker I have paid at Simmers for so called "relatives"!? But, don't worry, in Ghana, Gabon and Cameroon you can expect rather the same. The only news to me is that even local mongerers encounter exactly the same "problem" like Mazungus!

Cheers - HesekielsJeezz, and I thought they respected Mazungs more ;)

This is why a number of local mogerers will be seen drinking their beer alone (no woman company). Waiting for 12am when the girls will be thinking about where to sleep tonight.

Musomba2006
05-08-07, 12:08
I did not sleep very well on Sunday. Every now and then I would wake up just to look at this fine pettite naked and fast asleep.

Hesekiels
05-08-07, 20:49
... Waiting for 12am when the girls will be thinking about where to sleep tonight.

Very interesting, brother! And why is that so? Have the girls you are talking about no apartment? :)

Cheers - Hesekiels

Musomba2006
05-09-07, 09:50
Very interesting, brother! And why is that so? Have the girls you are talking about no apartment? :)

Cheers - HesekielsYes they do, but kind of dangerous to go there at that time of the night.

Xaam 1
05-09-07, 13:37
Musomba,

Well done!

Great Pics

Jamis Plumber
05-10-07, 12:33
Musomba, I was very excited by your video link, but unfortunately my computer could not open the files (after a succesful download), neither via Quicktime nor Windows Media Player. Maybe it's because I use Apple??? Anyone else with the same problem?

While you need windows Media player 9 or higher to open the files, you will need to part with 10 USD to access the files. Would not pay for such when I can use the same ammount to get an all-night shagging. Respect to Musomba though.

Musomba2006
05-11-07, 07:27
Thanks Musomba2006 .. nice to have local input here.

.... guess that you'll be a regular poster .. as compared to us visiting Mzungo Mongerers ?? :)Thanks for the appreciation

I will post as and when resources allow ;)

Musomba2006
05-11-07, 14:53
Seymour Butts once advised that the online porn bubble came and went. Forget about profit. If you are looking for profit then find something else as you will be wasting your time and money. Do it for the love of it. Kind of like a hobby where you make the kind of movies you find entertaining for youand also record events for posterity. If you get some return then be happy because it effectivley makes things cheaper for you.

That being said, I just love the girls on your site!

Musomba2006
05-12-07, 06:44
It seems like some of them accutaly like to get pregnant, have any of your guys same experience? I know its stupid to bareback, but once and awhile its easy to skip it. Have anyone else of you guys gone bareback during your stays in Kenya? Or is it just me.Not sure what your reasons were for posting this (as a turn on maybe?) but suffice to say you would have to be crazy to go bareback in Africa, especially with people you don't really know or that have been checked out.

Its your life but don't make it a short one.[/QUOTE]Its not uncommon for girls (especially university students) to trick their boyfriends into making them pregnant. The logic is that the man will marry them since she is carrying his child. It is interesting to read they do this with foreigners also.

Hesekiels
05-12-07, 23:55
The logic is that the man will marry them since she is carrying his child. It is interesting to read they do this with foreigners also.


Such a kind of logic is a little strange, isn't it!? One more good reason to use condoms - always! IMHO, of course!

Cheers - Hesekiels

Musomba2006
05-14-07, 16:01
This chick is wild.

She has promised to do some striptease for me at the end of the month when I will have money to pay her. I know where she stays and is in fact a good friend of my girlfriend.

Hopefully I will post more pics of her after then.

Musomba2006
05-14-07, 16:05
Ooops, I pressed the wrong button.

Musomba2006
05-15-07, 13:59
African girls are not like european. For them make a baby is not something like you have to think for years. Before doing, is more easy and fast. Taking sperm inside for them is natural not something to be too much worried about. Condoms. Unnatural sex!

Another thing to consider is that to have a baby from an america european caucasian make the baby a mix blood so llighter skin than usual african so something very nice to have.

At the end if we don't want to have babies is enough use a little bit of brain and when we don't know if the baby is ours or not. Now there are dna test.Not my girlfriend for sure. She absolutely insists on a condom and I respect that.

Musomba2006
05-16-07, 06:50
Some more pics of this wild hottie.

Schuerzenjaeger
05-16-07, 10:59
Musomba,

Great gals.

Just make sure if you go public in a business sense with your "www.chikicho.com" that you have all forms and records to comply with 18 U.S.C. 2257 (record keeping requirements for the content of adult sites). Especially because your girls look young.

Musomba2006
05-21-07, 09:05
Finally managed to get a dance from her.

Musomba2006
05-22-07, 11:51
Musomba,

Great gals.

Just make sure if you go public in a business sense with your "www.chikicho.com" that you have all forms and records to comply with 18 U.S.C. 2257 (record keeping requirements for the content of adult sites). Especially because your girls look young.Thanks for the compliments. Young ones cost less and are more likely to agree to photos and videos without much complications. They are also more likely to be photogenic (i.e have firm tits etc etc) and less likely to attempt blackmail (not that it can be taken seriously since it is not illegal to photograph your naked girlfriend in Kenya, but is can introduce unwanted complications and extra costs from people who think you dont know and who for all you know may be thugs).
BTW according to bee-tokens USC2257 is needed if you are based in the USA however I have put one up just in case.

Musomba2006
05-23-07, 06:34
Hi guys,

I am thinking of going to Mombasa or Sierra Leone at this point has anyone been to both and can tell me wich is better?also whats the situation in Mombasa at the moment? Is it the low season and if so are there still plenty of women around?

Thanks in advance.There are always plenty women in Mombasa.

Musomba2006
05-25-07, 09:38
Ok so theres loads of women by all accounts but wheres the best place to stay with the highest freelancer count. , I like somewhere right on the beach where one can sit outside there room with a beer in hand and check out the babes as they walk past is this possible? Also the cheapest flight I can find from Europe is 600 Euros from Paris.I dont know about the rest on this forum but from my experience the girls move about the way they fancy. For example, Big tree, Casurina, Cheers, Tembo, Casablanca, Black havana, Nakumatt Nyali, Mamba village, Florida nightclub, and others are places where they will go looking for foreigners. If they are tired of mtwapa they go to mombasa, ukunda, kisumu or even nairobi. Chances are you will not have much luck sitting outside your room drinking a beer and expecting many gals to come your way. Its up to you to go looking for them.

Musomba2006
05-25-07, 09:51
Ok so theres loads of women by all accounts but wheres the best place to stay with the highest freelancer count. , I like somewhere right on the beach where one can sit outside there room with a beer in hand and check out the babes as they walk past is this possible? Also the cheapest flight I can find from Europe is 600 Euros from Paris.Another word of advice: Many of them absolutely despise a proud and haughty foreigner who treats them like cheap trash. Foreigners are favoured because of their generosity (e.g giving 500 to 1000 shs without asking for sex, paying 2000 to 3000 for LT etc etc). Contrary to what people say, foreigners who act stingy (like a number who have given reports on this board saying they had sex and did not pay etc etc) are actually eroding the appeal of foreigner. In fact there are now two kinds of foreigners (or muzungus) The Mzungu wa maana (i.e. worthwhile foreigner) and the Mzungu (i.e foreigner). No prizes for guessing which Foreigner they are actually looking for.

Musomba2006
05-26-07, 08:26
Found in Nairobi.

RodneyRude
05-26-07, 12:30
Thanks for the input and yeah I agree musomba always treat them with respect I do and can't stop tipping, I think id tip the cats if they asked for it LOL. Any of guys going to be there around the end of June? I'm "è from Australia, Would be great to hang out for a bit. Anyone got any info on the rift valley? I've been looking at an internet site and there seems to be lots of women from there looking for guys. Yeah all the flights go through Nairobi except with asa safaris they have last minute dealdxfrom gatwick london to Mombasa for only 250 pounds at times.

Musomba2006
05-31-07, 12:35
On a rainy day.

Musomba2006
05-31-07, 12:58
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Zik324
06-10-07, 21:37
I'm new here, but I live in Nairobi, and I can't believe what I've been missing!

Musomba2006, how's the scene?

Zik324
06-10-07, 22:38
I'm new here, but I live in Nairobi, and I can't believe what I have been missing!

Musomba, how is the mongering scene?

Musomba2006
06-11-07, 09:35
I'm new here, but I live in Nairobi, and I can't believe what I have been missing!

Musomba, how is the mongering scene?Its pretty much like what has been said in this forum already, although i much prefer mombasa ( less crowded more easygoing atmosphere). These days the nairobi city center is well lit up and there are police patrols so you can safetly walk in the city center even at 2.00am ( unlike 10 years ago). Keep away from the less well lit areas ( such as around the coast bus station) and you will be just fine (I once walked all the way from the florida night club to the 680 hotel, met police chatting with street boys, women and men going about their business and noone hassled me).

Have you tried Liddos? They have some nice striptease shows there ( total nudity).

Musomba2006
06-11-07, 11:38
Subaculture,

Good article you say? What is 'good' about it?

Therer are a number of 'holes' in it. for example:-

1) People trust private security firms more than the police!

Presumably this is because companies and individuals hire private security firms to guard their properties. Is the author suggesting they should be able to hire the police to do this? Even in the USA, no way does private security firms do the job of the police or vice versa. When private security apprehend a criminal, they are handed over to the police....period.

2) Why has the author left out the free primary education now being offered by the Government?

3) Why has the author left out the good economic growth statistics (6% this year) brought about by the finance ministers good work?

4) The author talks about tens of millions of dollars of aid being given but infrastructure is worse than it was 40 years ago? I personally believe AID benefits the donor more than the recipient. For example, German aid (GTZ) goes to buy German equipment and employ German expatriates ( at 10 to 20 the salary of locals). Very little actually finds its way to the intended project. I highly doubt the infrastructure is worse than it was 40 years ago given the rapid expansion of Nairobi which in itself suggests infrastructure has grown to become more sophesticated.

5) Central Nairobi is unsafe. Hah! Any Nairobian reading this will wonder when this article was written given the governments efforts to lightup the city center, you can now walk at 2am without problems.

While some comments are true, e.g the mungiki and the bad roads, the rest is about as useful and truthful as the stuff we get from our own local gutter press and can be bought for as little as 10/=.

Subaculture
06-11-07, 19:57
Subaculture,

Good article you say? What is 'good' about it?

.

Well, the Economist has a pretty good rep as regards accurate reporting..in the spectrum from gutter Press to fact, the economist is well respected...I see what you mean about the tone of the article but what I published is about 30% of the full article. If I find a link to the full article, I will post it! Otherwise, flip through it at your local news stand!

SC

Update: Link to the Economist issue with Kenya article

http://rapidshare.com/files/36330758/The_Economist_2007_06_09.pdf

The Economist June 9 2007

The Economist is a weekly news and international affairs publication owned by "The Economist Newspaper Ltd" and edited in London. It has been in continuous publication since James Wilson established it in September 1843. As of 2006, its average circulation topped one million copies a week, about half of which are sold in North America.[1] Consequently it is often seen as a transatlantic (as opposed to solely British) news source.

Zik324
06-11-07, 23:45
Have you tried Liddos? They have some nice striptease shows there ( total nudity).Actually, I haven't been in Nairobi for long, so you can say that I'm in the 'discovering process', but thanks for the heads-up.

I haven't been to Mombasa yet, maybe some time in the near future.

And sorry for the double post, something with the browser.

Musomba2006
06-12-07, 11:06
Well, the Economist has a pretty good rep as regards accurate reporting..in the spectrum from gutter Press to fact, the economist is well respected...I see what you mean about the tone of the article but what I published is about 30% of the full article. If I find a link to the full article, I will post it! Otherwise, flip through it at your local news stand!

SC

Update: Link to the Economist issue with Kenya article

http://rapidshare.com/files/36330758/The_Economist_2007_06_09.pdf

The Economist June 9 2007

The Economist is a weekly news and international affairs publication owned by "The Economist Newspaper Ltd" and edited in London. It has been in continuous publication since James Wilson established it in September 1843. As of 2006, its average circulation topped one million copies a week, about half of which are sold in North America.[1] Consequently it is often seen as a transatlantic (as opposed to solely British) news source.I do agree that the economist is a respectable publication, however your post has revealed to me that even a respectable publication is not fool proof. How can the author expect the police to be employed to guard peoples properties?

Why does the author downplay positive developments such as the drop in HIV prevalence and the increase in life expectancy and yet magnify out of all proportion the negative aspects. Even to the point of inventing others (e. G the police who don't do what security guards should do).

The editor should have rejected this article. IMHO it has tarnished the good impression I have held about the economist.

What he should have said is that the infrastructure has grown since the 60's but is struggling to cope with the rapid growth of Nairobi. Etc etc, and not that the infrastructure is worse than it was 40 years ago since I am quite sure that if the infrastructure remained like the one the colonialist left behind things would not only be much worse than they are now, Nairobi would not be the 'big African City' it is now.

Musomba2006
06-12-07, 11:14
Well, the Economist has a pretty good rep as regards accurate reporting..in the spectrum from gutter Press to fact, the economist is well respected...I see what you mean about the tone of the article but what I published is about 30% of the full article. If I find a link to the full article, I will post it! Otherwise, flip through it at your local news stand!

SC

Update: Link to the Economist issue with Kenya article

http://rapidshare.com/files/36330758/The_Economist_2007_06_09.pdf

The Economist June 9 2007

The Economist is a weekly news and international affairs publication owned by "The Economist Newspaper Ltd" and edited in London. It has been in continuous publication since James Wilson established it in September 1843. As of 2006, its average circulation topped one million copies a week, about half of which are sold in North America.[1] Consequently it is often seen as a transatlantic (as opposed to solely British) news source.The economist clearly is quite ignorant of the following facts about Kenyas electricity.

http://www.econ.cam.ac.uk/electricity/news/autumn04/newbery.pdf

In 1971 it stood at around 500GWh/year. It has since then grown to 4500GWh per year. How can it be said this is worse than it was 40 years ago?

Only ignorance can justify such statements.

Musomba2006
06-12-07, 11:29
Actually, I haven't been in Nairobi for long, so you can say that I'm in the 'discovering process', but thanks for the heads-up.

I haven't been to Mombasa yet, maybe some time in the near future.

And sorry for the double post, something with the browser.Oh. While you are discovering it might be worthwhile to know that what makes foreighners more appealing than locals is their generosity. I don't mind if foreigners get their oats for free as it works to the advantage of locals like myself who don't mind shelling out 2000/= for LT. We end up looking much better and desirable to the gals than the freebee foreigners (believe me I have girlfriends and I know just what they think and say about such foreigners.) However if you want to be well thought think nothing of giving 2000/= or more for LT, it is after all much cheaper than the 400+ pounds sterling (approx 60, 000/=) that an english girl in london would ask for in exchange for basically the same thing. Even for the non pros, freebee eventually makes you no better than the broke local guy.

The Lucky Guy
06-12-07, 14:01
Subaculture,

Good article you say? What is 'good' about it?
..
* Why has the author left out the free primary education now being offered by the Government?

* Why has the author left out the good economic growth statistics (6% this year) brought about by the finance ministers good work?
..
Unfortunately there is a disease in the West specifically affecting journalists reporting about Africa. It makes them to focus on all the negative aspects and IF there is something good reported, it is under the "feel-good" section; the rescue of a tiger cub or something like that.

There are zillions of programs depicting the wild-life of Africa (eeeh..the nature) and extremely few showing normal people doing "normal" things.

The only time when people in west realize that not all Africans are shooting at each other, starving or dying in Aids is during the World Championship in Football. During a few weeks, the names of African countries are mentioned in sentences without words like "Aids", War", "Corruption", "Famine" etc - more often than during the whole four-year period in between. Even if I am a bit "enlightened" I can catch myself thinking, "Wow, the players from Ivory Coast has all their limbs left! They must be the few fortunate ones!".

Of course there are problems in Africa, but this single sided kind of reporting makes people think that Africa is already dead and beyond rescue. Anyone been there knows of course its not true, but not many wants to spend their holyday or think about investment in what is perceived as a zone of death and calamities. This means that only very few get to know how wonderful Africa really can be. But the worst thing is that Africa misses important income from tourism and can only dream of foreign investments outside of oil and minerals.

Musomba2006
06-14-07, 07:32
Guys,

One other thing: Is it possible to score babes on the Nairobi Mombasa train? Thought I might book a first cleas berth, then pick something from cattle class and take her back to my cabin.

RudeYou could try going to the cattle market instead. However I am not quite sure the cow, or the generaL PUBLIC will be cooperative to your wishes.

Musomba2006
06-14-07, 19:09
Unfortunately there is a disease in the West specifically affecting journalists reporting about Africa. It makes them to focus on all the negative aspects and IF there is something good reported, it is under the "feel-good" section; the rescue of a tiger cub or something like that.

There are zillions of programs depicting the wild-life of Africa (eeeh..the nature) and extremely few showing normal people doing "normal" things.

The only time when people in west realize that not all Africans are shooting at each other, starving or dying in Aids is during the World Championship in Football. During a few weeks, the names of African countries are mentioned in sentences without words like "Aids", War", "Corruption", "Famine" etc - more often than during the whole four-year period in between. Even if I am a bit "enlightened" I can catch myself thinking, "Wow, the players from Ivory Coast has all their limbs left! They must be the few fortunate ones!".

Of course there are problems in Africa, but this single sided kind of reporting makes people think that Africa is already dead and beyond rescue. Anyone been there knows of course its not true, but not many wants to spend their holyday or think about investment in what is perceived as a zone of death and calamities. This means that only very few get to know how wonderful Africa really can be. But the worst thing is that Africa misses important income from tourism and can only dream of foreign investments outside of oil and minerals.Well written lucky guy. Its encouraging and refreshing to read such wisdom as you have demonstrated from foreigners. Its like the sunshine breaking through in a cloudy day ;)

Musomba2006
06-14-07, 19:34
For your so nice post exposing the truth about western media here as some video caps of my current girlfriend and some of the things I do with her.

Although I decided not to post any more pictures after a previous post in which I mentioned my website was deleted, because of you only I post these pictures for now. Maybe when it becomes ok to mention my website I will post the many others I have of various nice african girls I have met.

Musomba2006
06-14-07, 20:44
Are you a 37 year old Australian

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=592662#post592662

Or a 39 year old Newzelander?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=486000#post486000

The Lucky Guy
06-14-07, 23:12
Although I decided not to post any more pictures ...Damn! I see light in the tunnel :)! Really great body!

Musomba, post pictures anyway. I think there is a general rule about posting that could be perceived as marketing..so just forget it and be happy. More great pictures from you will inspire others to post more great pictures!

Mazungu
06-15-07, 04:14
Musomba2006,

http://www.chikicho.com/ is the site. I have really enjoyed Musomba2006 website and I think that it contributes to this forum. At the least it is going to peak interest. Musomba has given us something to look at and enjoy along with his expertises.

Mazungu

Musomba2006
06-17-07, 15:14
Thanks for the pm,s on motorbikes and the train, seems booking first class then picking something up from cattle class is the go, cheers will keep you guys posted on how I fare.

RudeI am, very keen to know how you fare. Please do take a digital camera with you. It will be very interesting to see if you actually succeed in getting a 'cow' from 'cattleclass'. Then sneaking 'her' into your cabin. Presuming that by 'cattle class' you actually mean 'third class' (sorry but I find it hard to equate my fellow human being, regardless of race, with cattle but it seems to come natuirally to you) I would think the kind of girls I would go for would never travel third class or even by train unless their boyfriend paid first or second class for it. I have certainly not seen any approaching my taste in the few times I have travelled by train and ventured into third class. Most of them would travel by bus.

Carl Schmitt
06-17-07, 21:38
There is also 'cattle class' in other part of the world. I've been personally experiencing it in eastern europa (in bus). These word are a simple image and a simple critic of the condition of transport.

SO? Is it forbidden to say 'cattle class' when you travel in Africa? Every critic should be then understood as a racist attack?

Beyond this, I prefer to stick to the goals of this site, that is, mongering.

Please forget the binary black/white thinking here.

Tafadhali Musomba, naomba usilete habari za ubaguzi katika tovuti hii, ahsante.

Wako.

Carl

Musomba2006
06-18-07, 06:26
There is also 'cattle class' in other part of the world. I've been personally experiencing it in eastern europa (in bus). These word are a simple image and a simple critic of the condition of transport.

SO? Is it forbidden to say 'cattle class' when you travel in Africa? Every critic should be then understood as a racist attack?

Beyond this, I prefer to stick to the goals of this site, that is, mongering.

Please forget the binary black/white thinking here.

Tafadhali Musomba, naomba usilete habari za ubaguzi katika tovuti hii, ahsante.

Wako.

CarlSo you and Rodney Rude find it quite normal and correct to use the word 'cattle class' when refering to human beings? Sorry but I cannot comprehend or accept this whether its percived as racist attack or not.

Carl Schmitt
06-18-07, 07:39
Excuse me dear Musomba but I think that your software to understand the Mzungu thinking is quite too old.

We, especially the open-minded mongerers of this site, are not 19th century racists!
To say "cattle class" doesn't mean "people in the train ARE cattle".

To say "cattle class" means "people are treated LIKE cattle".

Do you understand my friend?

Musomba2006
06-18-07, 14:39
Cattle class eh? First time I have ever heared of it. How creative some people can be in relating people with cattle. Just how does it relate to mongering? Anyway that aside.

Here are some more pictures of my current GF. How did we meet? Well one Sunday I decided to just book a room at sweathearts in mtwapa (cost me around 400/= for a self contained room complete with fan but sans TV) and spend the evening at black havana. Since it was a little early (8. 00pm) there was not much action or girls. However, after about 30 minutes into drinking my whitecap beer, in came this hottie who headed straight for the womens room. Fortunatley I was seated along that path so when she came out I bekoned her with invitation to sit with me and have a drink. Gladly she obliged. We ended up spending the night at sweathearts and in the morning gave her 2000/= and a mobile phone (because she claimed not to have one and I was keen to contact her again).

She is 21 years old and has been in the mongering scene for around 8 months now. I took the opportunity to find out from her the comparisons between locals and foreigners. It is from her that I learned there are two kinds, I. E the mzungu wa maana (worthwhile foreigner) and the mzungu (I. E foreigner). The foreigner is no better than the well off locals as they tend to be very mean with their money (I. E offer no more than 1000/= for LT). Apparently many of the casurina foreigners fall into that category. The worthwhile foreigner tends to be the ones living in Nyali and owning property in kenya (I. E Expatriates and business men) and give 2000 to 5000/= for one night. I have even heared of cases of high class prostitutes charging as much as 30, 000/= per night to clients who tend to be diplomats and high flying businessmen. Such women however tend to be well educated and living in the posher areas of the city, some of them also hold full time day jobs and a local boyfriend. BTW, most local girls who made it from poverty to the jet set life did so by having an affair or marriage to a foreign investor who was looking for a way of buying property etc etc in kenya. Apparently its much easier to do this if you marry a local girl as the property can then be bought under her name.

Musomba2006
06-18-07, 20:43
Excuse me dear Musomba but I think that your software to understand the Mzungu thinking is quite too old.

We, especially the open-minded mongerers of this site, are not 19th century racists!
To say "cattle class" doesn't mean "people in the train ARE cattle".

To say "cattle class" means "people are treated LIKE cattle".

Do you understand my friend?It appears you don't quite understand my 'software'.

Firstly don't mistake my comments as implying that rodney rude was being racist. If you read my post you will see that at no point did I state he was being racist. Its only you who has misunderstood my comments and blown things out of all proportion by suggesting I am complaining of racism. I don't even know if rodney rude is a mzungu in the first place so it would be wrong for me to even think he was being racist.

Secondly, who are treating the people like cattle? If you ask me I would say it is the very people who call their side of the train 'cattle class'. Why did rodney rude choose those specific words? He could have said 'third class' instead. We would have understood him very well. In my vision, he saw the poor people who cannot afford second class and willingly pay for third class (knowing all too well the conditions) as being rather like cattle in that they are content to travel in conditions that he likens to cattle pens. In reality third class is in no way near the conditions found in cattle pens. The people sit on wooden benches. Not on the floor. So the idea that the train officials are the ones treating them like cattle (as you are trying to imply) does not cut it. Rodney rude, and you both think that people who travel third class are like cattle because they are too poor to travel first class like yourselves. Its rather snobbish of you two and I rather think you should confine that kind of language to private messages.

Musomba2006
06-18-07, 21:29
I didn't see a name in this disco.

The important thing is the fact that mongering, though difficult, is possible in the very muslim Lamu town, thanks to the central Kenya administration.

This is a reality too in Pemba (Zanzibar archipelago, TANZANIA).

Though very quiet and islamic, you can meet with girls from the island and the mainland (and with alcohol) when you cross the police lines!

Policemen and civil servants come from very different cultural zones where sex is often a totally normal and unblamed thing, and some time a 'purification' of the soul. Far away from the religions of the Book which condemn sex relations without marriage and want sex relation for kids only not for pleasure in the marriage.

I have tested only the police bar/station in Lamu, Pemba, and Zanzibar city.

I guess it works every where in Tanzania and Kenya when you're in an ancient muslim area. If someone have informations about other islands that match this type (Kiwayuu, Pate, Mafia, Kilwa) please let's inform me!

To go back to Lamu island it's not difficult to find the disco, you have to come to the block called "LANGONI", the "BIG DOOR" in kiswahili. This the West end of Lamu town.
Here are living the poorers, the newcomers (like me ;)) or the descendant of slaves. Here you start to feel more in Africa than in an old arabic town. The women are not veiled, there are little bars which sell alcohol, sometime adultared, and you can hear some music in the "streets".

From LANGONI there are two path, one along the sea, to go to Shela village, one that climb up the woody mount. Take the second path. You will walk along a big military fence and see the radar and antenna that watch the Kenyan sky.

The disco is upper in the wood, a simplier way is to come with someone if you can bear the beach boy attitude or make a friend.

The place is known to hoste pro and non pro girls. The people of the town do not like it at all but tolerate it (I've talk with a young local DJ whose parents have forbidden him to play in this place because of the CD (changudoa) girls, he now sticks to marriage party and taarab!)

But, and I conclude here, it's sure that Lamu is not a good place for mongering.
I just give the informations for people who are obliged to go in this type of swahili island and wait for informations about the other remote islands I have not yet visited and the validity of my hypothesis of the POLICE/FREEDOM LINE in remote and muslim islands in Kenya and Tanzania.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Something else you may like to know, lamu is known for homosexuality. Parents guard their young boys more tightly than their girls.

DG69
06-19-07, 06:49
.... I don't even know if rodney rude is a mzungu in the first place so it would be wrong for me to even think he was being racist.

Come on Musomba not only Mzungus are racists. Rascist you might find in any cultures.

To the other point it's not a signe of no respect to poor people, it's more a kind of sarcasm. When people in Germany fly tourist class in plane, they call it wooden class, because it's so uncomfortable. ;-)

Carl Schmitt
06-19-07, 09:49
Something else you may like to know, lamu is known for homosexuality. Parents guard their young boys more tightly than their girls.Thank you Musomba for this interesting precision but I prefer to stick with Waamu and Wasomali girls!

Musomba2006
06-19-07, 18:51
Thank you Musomba for this interesting precision but I prefer to stick with Waamu and Wasomali girls!Dont worry about it Carl. I love sleeping with young 20 year old Bantu women who dress well, have great bodies and are a little crazy. I also like drinking a cold Whitecap and some coke she sometimes likes to share.

I have some bad experiences with Somalis. They eat from you, get you to feed their various relatives then act all bitchy afterwards.

Love The Ladies
06-20-07, 00:37
Jackson should ban this thread we are making as its not about sex, but I had to chime in.
I stay here in India 6 months of the year. Though we don't call it the "cattle class" it certainly is worse than the cows way of traveling. During Rush hours, you can lift your feet up to rest them. This is of course when you are standing. It is literally that jammed here in India.

It sounds like the conditions of Kenya's 3rd class is better than India's First Class during Rush Hour.

Anyhow, I don't think anyone is being racist here. Its just a term to describe how people are jammed into a train. "Cattle Class" is a much better description than "3rd Class." Just my 2 cents.

LTL



It appears you don't quite understand my 'software'.

Firstly don't mistake my comments as implying that rodney rude was being racist. If you read my post you will see that at no point did I state he was being racist. Its only you who has misunderstood my comments and blown things out of all proportion by suggesting I am complaining of racism. I don't even know if rodney rude is a mzungu in the first place so it would be wrong for me to even think he was being racist.

Secondly, who are treating the people like cattle? If you ask me I would say it is the very people who call their side of the train 'cattle class'. Why did rodney rude choose those specific words? He could have said 'third class' instead. We would have understood him very well. In my vision, he saw the poor people who cannot afford second class and willingly pay for third class (knowing all too well the conditions) as being rather like cattle in that they are content to travel in conditions that he likens to cattle pens. In reality third class is in no way near the conditions found in cattle pens. The people sit on wooden benches. Not on the floor. So the idea that the train officials are the ones treating them like cattle (as you are trying to imply) does not cut it. Rodney rude, and you both think that people who travel third class are like cattle because they are too poor to travel first class like yourselves. Its rather snobbish of you two and I rather think you should confine that kind of language to private messages.

Musomba2006
06-20-07, 18:18
No brilliant idea yet for an inexperience traveler lost in Nairobi ?

Jim, In high tech industry its a norm to take vacations often. I am no exception.
Fortunately the two weeks vacation routine is over and now its time to quit the IT business and look for a change.

Photo was taken at Malindi cottage.

MaxNice girl you got there.

You might like to try the university of nairobi website

http://www.uonbi. Ac. Ke/

Maybe the student/semester issues can be resolved there?

The Lucky Guy
06-20-07, 19:23
Thanks Efremof: She has a GREAT body, she is really beautiful, she seems o be in love with you. Why are you thinking about Eastern Europe when your are used to that kind of girls in Kenya/africa?

Thanks Musomba: Do you never run out of great girls? The last one was really great! Are you together for sure or can you give away her phone number?

I am posting a number of pictures that I don't think have been posted before. The quality varies a lot. All are pictures of Yvonne and Jennifer, some from Hotel Terminal and some from the safari tour we had.

One thing; having two girls for a few days is a really great experience. But it is a very strange one. Having the same girls for four nights is at least one night to much. Girls always get jelous it seems. Even when then are paid. And it is a lot of work to keep the whole "family" happy! But it was a definately a very rememberable four nights.

First pictures are just an intro.

DG69
06-20-07, 20:42
I have some bad experiences with Somalis. They eat from you, get you to feed their various relatives then act all bitchy afterwards.

Is it not a bit racistic to say the somalis are like that or that? ;-)

Carl Schmitt
06-21-07, 06:56
It is from her that I learned there are two kinds, I. E the mzungu wa maana (worthwhile foreigner) and the mzungu (I. E foreigner). The foreigner is no better than the well off locals as they tend to be very mean with their money (I. E offer no more than 1000/= for LT). Apparently many of the casurina foreigners fall into that category. The worthwhile foreigner tends to be the ones living in Nyali and owning property in kenya (I. E Expatriates and business men) and give 2000 to 5000/= for one night. And what about this? Is this not a little bit racistic too?

Mzungu doesn't mean "foreigner" in kiswahili but "white person, or european".

The correct word for "foreigner" is MGENI, plural WAGENI, and it means "guest" too, which shows an open, positive, and friendly attitude to the foreigners, in the langage.

You can verify it in the "KAMUSI PROJECT" of the Yale (USA) university web site. This site can be very helpful if you want to speak in kiswahili with your wapenzi and wachumba.

So, since the difference on the mzungu is based on money, I think it works also perfectly with every human being.

A material girl (and you may have experienced that pro are often not material and can fall in love) will say MTU WA MAANA "a significative person (ie with money)" or BINADAMU WA MAANA " a significative human being (ie with money)".

Musomba2006
06-21-07, 07:21
Is it not a bit racistic to say the somalis are like that or that? ;-)Interesting comment.

What do mongerers say about Ethiopians? Beautiful but not good in bed because they practice genital mutilation.

What do mongerers say about black girls in Africa?

I have had bad experiences with Somalis, period.

Musomba2006
06-21-07, 07:26
Thanks Efremof: She has a GREAT body, she is really beautiful, she seems o be in love with you. Why are you thinking about Eastern Europe when your are used to that kind of girls in Kenya/africa?

Thanks Musomba: Do you never run out of great girls? The last one was really great! Are you together for sure or can you give away her phone number?

I am posting a number of pictures that I don't think have been posted before. The quality varies a lot. All are pictures of Yvonne and Jennifer, some from Hotel Terminal and some from the safari tour we had.

One thing; having two girls for a few days is a really great experience. But it is a very strange one. Having the same girls for four nights is at least one night to much. Girls always get jelous it seems. Even when then are paid. And it is a lot of work to keep the whole "family" happy! But it was a definately a very rememberable four nights.

First pictures are just an intro.She is a little tired of the mongering scene right now prefering a BF relationship.

Great pictures lucky guy. Keep it up.

DG69
06-21-07, 22:13
interesting comment.

what do mongerers say about ethiopians? beautiful but not good in bed because they practice genital mutilation.

what do mongerers say about black girls in africa?

i have had bad experiences with somalis, period.

i had experiences with ethiopians and yes it's true most of them whose i had are not really good in bed compare with girls from other places, buuut if you made with your limited own experience a generalization about a group of people than is this at least chauvinistic if not racistic. so, if you criticize others than you should first have a look into the mirror.

but, that's not the topic. the topic is girls and how to get them in kenya.

when i was in ethiopia i met there a somali girl. i had a longer chat with her in the bar but i couldn't take her to my room, because there were already a nice ethiopian girl. it sounds strange, but even when she seems not to enjoy sex too much, she did all what i wanted and she was a very sweet and humple girl.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=32187

well, i had not the heart to give her a kick and so i let her stay with me. but, i could convince her that i need a beer and will come back in half a hour. so, i went to the disco in the basement of the hotel and there i met that somali girl. very pretty, she speeks good english, good kisser and very charming. well, unfortunatelly i didn't took her to my room. since it's not wise to spent the holiday in somalia and since ethiopia (addis) is a bit boring i would like to visit the beaches of kenya. but, i have to admit that i prefer more light skinned girls, such like somalis, arabs and ethiopians. is there a good chance to find such girls in mombasa or is nairobi better?

Musomba2006
06-22-07, 08:30
i had experiences with ethiopians and yes it's true most of them whose i had are not really good in bed compare with girls from other places, buuut if you made with your limited own experience a generalization about a group of people than is this at least chauvinistic if not racistic. so, if you criticize others than you should first have a look into the mirror.

but, that's not the topic. the topic is girls and how to get them in kenya.

when i was in ethiopia i met there a somali girl. i had a longer chat with her in the bar but i couldn't take her to my room, because there were already a nice ethiopian girl. it sounds strange, but even when she seems not to enjoy sex too much, she did all what i wanted and she was a very sweet and humple girl.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=32187

well, i had not the heart to give her a kick and so i let her stay with me. but, i could convince her that i need a beer and will come back in half a hour. so, i went to the disco in the basement of the hotel and there i met that somali girl. very pretty, she speeks good english, good kisser and very charming. well, unfortunatelly i didn't took her to my room. since it's not wise to spent the holiday in somalia and since ethiopia (addis) is a bit boring i would like to visit the beaches of kenya. but, i have to admit that i prefer more light skinned girls, such like somalis, arabs and ethiopians. is there a good chance to find such girls in mombasa or is nairobi better?out of 7 somail girls i have met so far only one turned out to be ok.

you win. i will not complain again if people choose to compare others with cattle, goats or whatever people should be free to say whatever they want regardless of what others think or feel. without being critisized.

oh btw you preferences for light skinned girls sound kind of. so you are no better than i am.

Musomba2006
06-22-07, 08:39
And what about this? Is this not a little bit racistic too?

Mzungu doesn't mean "foreigner" in kiswahili but "white person, or european".

The correct word for "foreigner" is MGENI, plural WAGENI, and it means "guest" too, which shows an open, positive, and friendly attitude to the foreigners, in the langage.

You can verify it in the "KAMUSI PROJECT" of the Yale (USA) university web site. This site can be very helpful if you want to speak in kiswahili with your wapenzi and wachumba.

So, since the difference on the mzungu is based on money, I think it works also perfectly with every human being.

A material girl (and you may have experienced that pro are often not material and can fall in love) will say MTU WA MAANA "a significative person (ie with money)" or BINADAMU WA MAANA " a significative human being (ie with money)".If I use the term 'white man' (as I did in earlier posts) I will be accused of being racist hence the choice of word 'foreigner' as was suggested by somebody on this board.

BTW. Her exact words were 'mzungu wa maana' and not 'mtu wa maana' as she was specifically refering to white men. Girls generally don't use the textbook swahili you are preaching.

Musomba2006
06-23-07, 08:46
Virtually non exist in Mombasa and very rare in Nairobi too.

DG69: The Ethiopian girls in the photo are real stunner.

Eritrea Girls from flicker.com. Photos attached only for the skin color demonstration.Ever heared of the Bajuni? They are a mix between Bantu Africans and Arabs. Very common in Mombasa, Malindi and Lamu. They have very light skin (even lighter than many Somalis and Ethiopians I have seen). Many of them live in Mombasa old town and are viewed as the native people of mombasa (even part of the swahili poeple). They are also highly visible during the muslim festivities. Sometimes you can pick their girls up from moi avenue, makinon market, and the old town area if you have a car. However these are muslim people so mongering with them can be quite a challenge. Then there are the Taita people. These are coastal Bantus (their home areas being Voi and its environs) and therefore quite common in Mombasa. Those who live in the mountains of Taita tend to have dark skin while those in the valleys have skin so light that people joke they look like Chineese. Look around Max, it seems you still have much to learn about Mombasa.

Musomba2006
06-23-07, 08:51
The Ethiopian girl is average. If you want light skinned stunners go elsewhere: America, Latin America, Esastern Europe. and Asia.

They are fitting the Western beauty standards to a tee.

If you find dark skinned Africans so repulsive and unappealing get the eff out of Africa.Well said. The Ethiopian is average. Pesonally i prefer dark skin. Its amazing how some people from light skinned countries pay so much to come to Africa in search of light skin. What is the logic?

Musomba2006
06-23-07, 08:57
I visited brazil many times for IT business. Brazil girls are fantastic mainly because of the mix blood color and figure. However it's difficult to get them for free but if u are ready to pay then Brazil can become a heaven for girls.

In kenya you can not find that kind of genetically engineered 100M runner body or the perfect straight hair as you can find in Brazil. (nor that color mix)

But:
Kenya girls are sweet, lovely, funny with one of the best intimate attitude in the world. They can really take care of you.Actually there are many girls with that athletic look, but they are not freebies (i.e the kind you go for). ;-)

Musomba2006
06-24-07, 09:30
Muslim girl (from the giriama tribe) in her house at Kisauni mombasa.

Only agreed to photo if wearing a 'ninja'.

Carl Schmitt
06-24-07, 09:31
You win. I will not complain again if people choose to compare others with cattle, goats or whatever people should be free to say whatever they want regardless of what others think or feel. Without being critisized.
May I say you've adopted a 'victimization strategy'.

DG69
06-24-07, 10:08
Its amazing how some people from light skinned countries pay so much to come to Africa in search of light skin. What is the logic?

Ah, yes that is a good question. But, maybe I should be more precise. I don't say that I am looking for white girls in Africa, but I prefer the more light or brown skinned african women and not so much the dark skinned african women. My knowledge of the Kenyan tribs are limited. Of course I know the Massai, Bantu and I know that there are mixed African/Arab people at the Coast. But, maybe someone know the Ashanti and Fulani people in Western Africa. Those people have a more light skin than for example the Bantu people.
It's good that you like more the dark skinned girls. It would be much better for me if more men would prefer the dark skinned girls, than more of the light skinned girls would be available for me. ;-)
But Musomba unfortunatelly the most men, even the African men prefer the light skinned girls. I know that this is true, since many woman in for example Western Africa use special creams to get a lighter skin. Often those creams are not good for the skin. But, in Europe girls try to get a darker skin by using tan cream or go to take a sun bath. Maybe light brown is the most liked skin colour.
As I said, if Somali would be a save and comfortable place I would go there. Or, if the moslems wouldn't be so difficult regarding p4p with their women I would go to North Africa or Middle East. But, since this is not the case Kenya seems to be worth a try.

Carl Schmitt
06-24-07, 11:32
If I use the term 'white man' (as I did in earlier posts) I will be accused of being racist hence the choice of word 'foreigner' as was suggested by somebody on this board.Dear Musomba2006,

when you say 'mzungu' you say 'whiteman' or 'european' since it is the meaning in kiswahili.

You can give a fake translation after, this is the same.


BTW. Her exact words were 'mzungu wa maana' and not 'mtu wa maana' as she was specifically refering to white men. Girls generally don't use the textbook swahili you are preaching.I'm not preaching, I'm not a monk, the distinction between 'mzungu' and 'mtu' was for you since you seem to give a peculiar (and tiresome) importance to the distinctions between people.

Is there something like a bantu people?

Bantu is just a linguitic term, created by a german scolar in the 19th, there is only bantuspeaking people. (Like some wasomali who are speaking cimiini! a bantu langage)

In my own langage we have an expression for the stubborn mind, we say 'to be stubborn like a donkey'.

Do you perceive the metaphor without your humanity being called into question?

Musomba2006
06-24-07, 20:54
Dear Musomba2006,

when you say 'mzungu' you say 'whiteman' or 'european' since it is the meaning in kiswahili.

You can give a fake translation after, this is the same.

I'm not preaching, I'm not a monk, the distinction between 'mzungu' and 'mtu' was for you since you seem to give a peculiar (and tiresome) importance to the distinctions between people.

Is there something like a bantu people?

Bantu is just a linguitic term, created by a german scolar in the 19th, there is only bantuspeaking people. (Like some wasomali who are speaking cimiini! a bantu langage)

In my own langage we have an expression for the stubborn mind, we say 'to be stubborn like a donkey'.

Do you perceive the metaphor without your humanity being called into question?Carl,

You are getting tedious. Give up. My command of practical Swahili is better than yours, period.

I will bypass a number of your points since they are just not worth responding to. Instead i will focus on the huge hole you seem not to have seen in your answer.

Mzungu = white man

There are various kinds of white men, e.g :-

muameikani=american
muitaliano=italian
muingereza=englishman
mugermani=german
muswiss-swissman

European is NOT the correct meaning of the word Mzungu because there are Black and Asian Europeans who cannot be called Mzungus! (unless in a joking sort of way).
Now...that being said, do you have photos of girls you have met in Africa?
I have attached one of a Giriama girl which unfortunatley did not show up in a previous post. Post some pictures. I believe it will make you look a lot better than trying to show me how much (or rather, how little) Swahili you know and especially since you support the idea of relating people to cattle!

Musomba2006
06-24-07, 23:10
Ah, yes that is a good question. But, maybe I should be more precise. I don't say that I am looking for white girls in Africa, but I prefer the more light or brown skinned african women and not so much the dark skinned african women. My knowledge of the Kenyan tribs are limited. Of course I know the Massai, Bantu and I know that there are mixed African/Arab people at the Coast. But, maybe someone know the Ashanti and Fulani people in Western Africa. Those people have a more light skin than for example the Bantu people.

It's good that you like more the dark skinned girls. It would be much better for me if more men would prefer the dark skinned girls, than more of the light skinned girls would be available for me. ;-)

But Musomba unfortunatelly the most men, even the African men prefer the light skinned girls. I know that this is true, since many woman in for example Western Africa use special creams to get a lighter skin. Often those creams are not good for the skin. But, in Europe girls try to get a darker skin by using tan cream or go to take a sun bath. Maybe light brown is the most liked skin colour.

As I said, if Somali would be a save and comfortable place I would go there. Or, if the moslems wouldn't be so difficult regarding p4p with their women I would go to North Africa or Middle East. But, since this is not the case Kenya seems to be worth a try.You have made some good points.

From my personal experiences living in a black neibourhood, the men don't seem to favour light skin. Their wives and girlfriends are dark skinned. So are their childen. In fact, as some have observed, most thorough bred blacks in Kenya have dark skin. Implying that they generally choose spouses who have dark skin. However there are a number of women who go to great lengths to lighten their skin and straighten their hair in the effort to look more attractive. Wether this is to attract men or just to look more beautiful than their friends is debatable (some of them are lesbians anyway). However it is good you like light skinned girls so I can trust you with my girlfriend. Heheheee.

Gesheft
06-25-07, 06:10
I have attached one of a Giriama girl which unfortunatley did not show up in a previous post. Post some pictures.


M - good to see that you "balance" a quibble with a pic !

And what a pic - excellent - should be a "picture of distinction" !! :)

And please enlighten us - "Giriama" - this is a tribe, an area - both - or what!

Perhaps a short lesson in this would be appreciated !

Cheers
G

Musomba2006
06-25-07, 07:19
M - good to see that you "balance" a quibble with a pic !

And what a pic - excellent - should be a "picture of distinction" !! :)

And please enlighten us - "Giriama" - this is a tribe, an area - both - or what!

Perhaps a short lesson in this would be appreciated !

Cheers,

GHi Gesheft,

Thanks. Giriama is a tribe found at the coast. It is part of the '10 tribes' i.e Mjikenda. It's is widely believed that the swahili culture evolved from the interaction between them and the arabs. Btw i find their Traditional dances to be the sweetest in Kenya. You may like to visit bomas of kenya in nairobi or bombolulu in mombasa to see examples ;-)

Musomba2006
06-25-07, 11:58
With the greatest respect to Proliberalist. The report is not really accurate.

I have been doing business in Nairobi since 1985, so I know what I am talking about.

It takes a special type of guy who is willing to waste hours and days chatting up girls in Universities and Shopping Centres. You will have an acceptable success rate if you pursue the same tactics in Europe !

There is only one place for quality ladies in great numbers in Nairobi...and that is New Florida.

You might get lucky once in a while and pull a stunner in Simmers...but these occasions are few and far between. Normally only the same few battle hardened pros operate from Simmers, 680 and Annie Oakleys. For Petes Sake never take a girl from Annies to Florida as one recent contributor advised. You will spend the rest of the night trying to get rid of her.

For regular daytine action....the only option is the massage places. The compound in which Annie Oakleys has one hidden at the very top behind a wooden gate. Search for it. Normally 12 girls and 2 guys.

A few drinks in simmers from 6-10 hoping to catch a stray non pro but normally selecting at Florida around midnight.

The best good value, safe and girl friendly hotel to stay is the Parkside at Javenjee Gardens. The Terminal Hotel is NOT safe.

Sorry for spoiling the dream but the truth is important to the subscribers of this forum

Take Care

Donnachaa.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Donnachaa I have added a link recommending this report for distinction. It seems to be the first one for Africa. The link is here.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2100

It may take time as it has to be moderated by Jackson

Musomba2006
06-26-07, 11:03
Just want you to know that our techniques has a great similarities for daytime action.

I always used to hang around universities and coffee shops. I can imagine myself explain the students what the hell i am doing in their campus :)


Again your post naturally fits to the reports of distinction. No doubt about that.

I will share my Campus experience soon. This time more photos and much more action...........What? you hang around university, get a girl, take pics of her etc etc FOC, go back to the same university looking for another one to do the same thing to? What happens if you meet the girl you did FOC last night (who you talked marriage issues with) and she sees you with another girl? Something does not look real here.

Carl Schmitt
06-26-07, 21:05
Thanks. Giriama is a tribe found at the coast. It is part of the '10 tribes' i.e Mjikenda.Mijikenda= the NINE (kenda, this is old bantu) cities (miji).

Sorry, I'm supposed to remain in silence.

Photos coming soon!

Vahaza Be
06-26-07, 23:13
What? you hang around university, get a girl, take pics of her etc etc FOC, go back to the same university looking for another one to do the same thing to? What happens if you meet the girl you did FOC last night (who you talked marriage issues with) and she sees you with another girl? Something does not look real here.
You are obviously a man of many strongly held opinions. This forum is not a competition or school lesson -- it's for sharing experiences and information. You have many insights, but you need to relax a little. You know the old saying, "Opinions are like assholes -- everone has one". ;)
Respect.

Musomba2006
06-27-07, 06:28
Mijikenda= the NINE (kenda, this is old bantu) cities (miji).

Sorry, I'm supposed to remain in silence.

Photos coming soon!Sorry, kenda means 9. You are right.

Musomba2006
06-27-07, 09:15
you are obviously a man of many strongly held opinions. this forum is not a competition or school lesson.- it's for sharing experiences and information. you have many insights, but you need to relax a little. you know the old saying, "opinions are like assholes.- everone has one". ; )

respect. hi there,

don't get me wrong. i have a lot of respect for effermof's contributions and his taste for dark skinned girls;.). i especially liked the tall slim 'ninja'. girls like that are worth holding on to. in fact i am planning to put one of his reports in the 'reports of distinction' forum. however, i am just a little puzzled how he gets girls to do what they do for free. my experience in kenya is that anything that remotley looks payable will come with a request for payment. for example, getting your car stuck on a muddy rural road will attract instant help from the locals who, after getting you out of it, will demand 'kitu kidogo' (a small payment).

trouble with the police (e.g. getting caught in town after 9. 00pm without your id) will require 'kitu kidogo' for you to be set free. asking for directions in nairobi sometimes ends in you having to give 'kitu kidogo'. getting change from newspaper vendors in the gpo mombasa, for the 1000/= that our atm's gorge out has at times ended up in me being charged a small comission etc etc (this is after the banks close. eg weekends). kenyans can get quite creative in finding ways to separate you from your cash. so to read that there are kenyans who get photographed and fucked for free is kind of surreal. maybe max is selling a fantasy that he actually pays for;.)

i do my mongering at night. daytime is reserved for job, business and other activities that need the services available during working hours.

my typical strategy is to get 4000/= in 200/= notes and go to nightclubs known to have many girls looking to trade sex with money. i would then sit at the counter or some other conspcious place and order for two whitecaps. the presense of two whitecaps on my table differenciates me from the blacks that don't have any money (and who typically sip coke etc etc). this makes me a 'target' for the girls and soon some will come walking my way, not specifically to talk to me but in hopes i will 'reach out' for them. when i spot the one i fancy (i have always been fussy) i zoom in on her (i. e invite her for a drink). one thing leads to another and the following morning i give her 2000/= for food. if i was very imprtessed i will even take her mobile number. this method has worked quite well for me. the fact i paid makes her happy to seem me again next time we meet and that send good signals about me to the other girls;.). that is how i got the girl in the picture.

btw. there is a mzungu (a swissman) who died recently in mombasa that was very well known by the mtwapa girls. as i overheard my girlfriend discussing his death with her girlfriends and the stories they had about him from various girls it transpired he was a 'good' man because he would buy food for ten girls at a time at casurina etc etc. he apparently had a girlfriend at nyali who died recently so his death seemed to be stress related etc etc. so girls their grapevine and it is worthy for me to be on the good side of it. however, that being said, my experience with freebees is somewhat limited as i never got much success getting the girls i like that way chiefly because of the 'kitu kidogo' thing plus the extra time and effort it takes to get her to bed for free (never mind te photos! ).

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Musomba2006
06-27-07, 12:59
Mijikenda= the NINE (kenda, this is old bantu) cities (miji).

Sorry, I'm supposed to remain in silence.

Photos coming soon!Sorry but I forgot to include the following point.

The 'miji' in 'mijikenda' does not refer to a city but a grouping of peoples which in this case is united by a common language.

Miji can also be used to describe familiy groupings (or bomas), so, for example Miji wa Carl would refer to Carl's homestead etc etc.

Look forward to viewing your photos. Will also post more views of the Giriama girl soon ;-)

Vahaza Be
06-27-07, 23:16
I usually end up paying with cash and/or presents too. Eases the guilt, and the better the girl performs, the more generous I become. SOP, really. It's how I redistribute the wealth ;) Whether it's the Caribbean, Africa, Asia or NYC, no such thing as a "freebie" in my experience (unless you're 30 years younger than me, fit, and handsome -- hell, even I could get some free trim back then!). Bless the working girls!!
Different strokes for different folks.
Nice report Musomba.

Musomba2006
06-28-07, 09:57
Musomba06,

This is how some can get if for free and some don't. I do not mean any disrespect but I am talking from some experience. I believe that wazungu have a better chance of getting the freebies. For a couple of reasons. I think first that the Kenyan ladies want an out. Many times wasichana wanataka wazungu (young ladies want the white men). Therefore many wont "rock the boat" and ask for monies in hopes that they may get the ticket out (marriage). I also think color matters. White means $$. This is absolutely not the case but it often happens. I have been out mongering at places like buffilo bills (now closed), f2, madhouse, and a couple other places I wont mention in the form so that they don't get ruined with my Kenyan and African american brothers and they were far less successful then I. I am an overweight ugly dude.

This is where us wazungu wageni (white tourists) need to do our best to be nice as possible to these ladies. They really want us to save them or take them our of Kenya. Even know we all know that life in the states is not a bed of roses.

So this is my opinion.

Peace
MazunguHi there ;-)

I am aware of their favouritism towards Whites in hopes of

1) Being paid well for their services

2) Getting married and getting out of Kenya or being married and living a jet set life here in Kenya. Its a kind of rags to riches dream. I have seen the life those lucky enough to be married by rich investors are living here in Kenya. I reckon it is far better than the average white woman lives in europe or america chiefly because luxury in Kenya is much cheaper than in Europe and America plus the man is damn rich! But giving sex for free! This is news to me. I think this is phenomena is more likely found amongst the no pros (who I don't have much time for) but I stand to be corrected.

Yes I agree with you. Treat them well, keep up the good impression they have of white people and they generally take good care of you. I have to work a little harder of course mostly because a lot of these girls have had bad experiences with their black boyfriends, husbands which resulted in them doing the things they do. Fortunatley I have the money.

I will give you one case in point. It concerns one of my current gilfriends, who every now and then is fond of reminding me that the only reason she is with me is because I think and act like a Whiteman! She likens me with the black americans. (sigh). If only she was brought up in more enlightened neibourhoods.

She hails from the Chonyi community (part of he mjikenda coastal tribes). Her Muslim father has 3 wives and the least favoured was her mother. Because of her different look, she became the least favoured of his children. Her father was one of those traditionalists who did not believe in educating their girl children so she is basically beautiful, great body but effectivley illiterate, fluent only in kiswahili and kichonyi. This brings problems when articulating ideas best expressed in the more flexible english however my command of swahili is sufficient to keep communication open.

Their mother separated from their father and what followed was a tough life growing up with little food etc etc. She eventually got a job as a house maid for a prostitute in mtwapa at the tender age of 12 earning 1500/= per month. At some point a local boy started seducing her and at the age of 17 she was tricked into travelling to the boys home (on the other side of kenya) where she became pregnant. What followed were the usual troubles. The boy was poor and unable to take good care of her, tradition demanded she stay with the mother in law who worked her like a donkey and complained she was lazy etc etc eventually she ended giving birth at her mothers place in kilifi. Her contempt for the father of her child is too deep for words. Her life and state was such that she almost poisoned her baby (luckily her mother saw the poison and asked her many questions). Fortunatley the prostitute who employed her accepted her back, but now that she had a child, the salary was too little, so she was trained in the art of prostitution and before long was getting 2000/= to 7000/= every 3 days on average. Some of it given by the client, some of it stolen from drunk/sleeping/careless clients who insisted on paying only 500/= for an all night fuck! (yes folks. If you act like they are cheap. They will treat you cheap). She basically hated sleeping around and being fucked by anybody with money but knew she had to act plesant etc etc in order to keep getting clients, after all she has a kid to take care of. And all because of one baluya boy who got her in a family way without any planning or preparation (By the way the sex with him was great and he was wonderful in the art to seducing girls), and a father who refused to educate her beyond std 4.

I have tried to upload another photo of the giriama girl from a different angle but seems there is a problem. Will try again much later.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Musomba2006
06-29-07, 08:29
Long before digital cameras became available in kenya I met a bajuni girl while driving in mombasa at night. Then I remembered a friend who told me that bajuni girls, and swahili women in general value their virginity so much that their boyfriends often trick them into accepting anal sex as a way of maintaining their virginity.

So there I was with this lovely bajuni and began a movement to her ass which was promptly rebuted with a statement to the effect that ' that hole was meant for shitting. ' So I said to myself. So much for that myth. Not all bajunis are open for anal sex after all.

However it still facinates me that girls can spread it for cash and think nothing of it.

Musomba2006
06-30-07, 06:42
Officially its 16 but....

Anyone knows if the police practically respect the law or they could arrest you if they find you with a 16-17 girl? (for bribe purpose)

Does 17 should be on the safe side?

All my girls were 22 and above but just for general knowledge.In the hotels proof of age is normally required and the only document is her national ID card which she cannot get until she is 18 years old.

Some hotels however look the other way....pm me for details. Better though would be the private villas or houses. Ensure you have a car so things can be done discreetly. You can find the houses/villas at the estate agents in town and there are many car hire firms available.

Avoid driving at night because the police tend to pay sharper attention to passengers at night as compared to the daytime and will always look for a bribe if she does not have an ID card.

Musomba2006
06-30-07, 12:44
Guys:

Thanks for the discussions of price. It sounds like I'll have to check out both Florida and Simmers. My next question is about safety. I lived and worked in Africa for five years prior to moving to the Philippines, so I'm no stranger to the place. However, I was only in Nairobi once and then only for a day so I don't know the city at all. Will I be safe going to these places alone? What's the general safety situation now in Nairobi. The last time I was there, about 10 years ago, it had a reputation for street violence.

Thanks in advance.

GEI don't frequent Nairobi that much, however the last time I was there (about 4 months ago) I was amazed by how much brighter and safer the city center (I. E around the 680 hotel, and up to the 'mushroom shaped' florida nightclub) was at night and how people (even white men and women)were freely walking about. Even at 2. 00am I was able to walk without any worries (because there were other pedestrians/ revellers, both black and white, about plus plenty of good lighting) from the mushroom shaped florida nightclub right up to the 680 hotel. Even the police did not bother me and everywere was well lit (unlike the case the last time I was there and it was generally not advisable to walk about at night). However, during the day time, it is a lot more crowded than it was 10 years ago. I had to keep avoiding bumping into people everywhere I went. This can be quite stressful and is one of the reasons I much prefer Mombasa.

Musomba2006
07-01-07, 14:12
So. Where was I. Yes, the bajuni girl who did not like anal sex, I fucked her pussy instead.

The next bajun I met was around the mwembe tayari area, again while driving around at night. This one said she could do anything I wanted, so I parked and went with her to her room. This time I got the anal sex I was looking for and afterwards she powdered my dick with johnsons baby powder while commenting how handsome my dick was it was etc etc.

Here are two friends playing around.

Musomba2006
07-02-07, 09:40
Anyone thinks that i am joking now?I love that butt!

Musomba2006
07-03-07, 15:44
Happened on December 2006. The free music video is here:-

http://rapidshare.com/files/40730715/fashion.wmv

The music is Chakacha and one of the ladies is tall, dark skinned and sweet.

Vahaza Be
07-03-07, 23:13
Happened on December 2006. The free music video is here:-

http://rapidshare.com/files/40730715/fashion.wmv

The music is Chakacha and one of the ladies is tall, dark skinned and sweet.
Thanks for the link. Great music too.

Vahaza Be
07-04-07, 23:28
Remember when 640 x 480 reslution was the in thing for digital cameras?

This is how capricorn's (aka sakina) butt looked like.
Now, if they could just add scratch'n'sniff to the pics!!
Nice!

Vahaza Be
07-05-07, 20:15
You might prefer this one instead ;-)
I licked the screen!!!!!!!

Musomba2006
07-06-07, 13:09
Told her she would make a good actress because she loves acting for the camera.

Musomba2006
07-07-07, 12:09
Nice photos as always.

MaxWonderful compliment coming from the King hmself ;-)

If the girl is photogenic and loves the camera, most of the work is already done. In fact most of the time its just a matter of point and shoot.

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Musomba2006
07-07-07, 14:57
A girl I once new told me she wanted 2 boiled eggs and a sausage for breakfast. It took me a while to click what she really meant since she did not look the type to have such kind of imagination.

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Musomba2006
07-09-07, 11:53
If you look at MTW or any Movie. The most beautiful black girls, for example Beyonce, Halle Berry and others are at least mixed. So, those countries with the highest mixed population might have the most babes. Such countries are often not the former English Colonies, because the English were not so easy with contacting the local females. The French, Spanish, Portugese and Italians had not so much moralic problems with interacial relationships. Therefore I would expect that Angola, Mosambique, Western Africa will have many babes.

Nordafrica, specially Eritrea, Somalia and such countries like Mali, Mauretania and Marocco have Imho the most pretty girls, but unfortunatelly not so easy to score.

The same with Asia. The most pretty girls might be in Japan, Vietnam, some parts of Indonesia and Malaysia. But, the most easy place is Thailand.Debatable. check out nokias face of africa models, for example in the page below:-

http://www.textually.org/textually/archives/2005/07/009057.htm

That girl definatley is not mixed blood and in my opinion looks much more beautiful than beyonce or Halle Berry.

IMHO beautiful Non mixed blood dark skinned women look much more attractive than the beautiful light skinned mixed blood types. Then again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Vahaza Be
07-10-07, 02:37
IMHO beautiful Non mixed blood dark skinned women look much more attractive than the beautiful light skinned mixed blood types. Then again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I couldn't agree more. The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice!

Musomba2006
07-10-07, 10:33
Come on, that girl on the Link has a quite fair skin. She is petite and has a bronze coloured skin. She is from Botswana, from the southern part of Africa.

No when I talk about real black women than I mean such types. ;-)

http://www.nndb.com/people/242/000025167/whoopi-sized.jpgHey, IMHO she is not fit in the category of 'beautiful black women'.

The beautiful dark skinned women i refer to are like the one found here

http://oluchi.com/

Now that is a real beautiful black non mixed blood woman. :-)

Pet Phunt
07-10-07, 20:57
Hey, IMHO she is not fit in the category of 'beautiful black women'.

The beautiful dark skinned women i refer to are like the one found here

http://oluchi.com/

Now that is a real beautiful black non mixed blood woman. :-)Beauty is the eye of the beholder. Every woman is beautiful in her own way. Dark skinned, light skinned and whatever skinned are all beautiful. For most men, a naked woman is all that matters.

Enough with the arguments about beautiful black women and stuff and let the game continue.

DG69
07-10-07, 21:30
Hey, IMHO she is not fit in the category of 'beautiful black women'.

The beautiful dark skinned women i refer to are like the one found here

http://oluchi.com/

Now that is a real beautiful black non mixed blood woman. :-)

When I talk about fair skinned African women than I think on such women like those of this model page you have posted. One of that girls is Naomi Campbell.

But also she is mixed raced. ;-)

"Campbell was born in London, England. Her mother, Valerie, was a ballet dancer, who told Arena in 1996 that her daughter's unnamed father is a mixed-race man of part-Chinese ancestry"

Musomba2006
07-11-07, 15:36
boring ..................

back to the black ass competition !

Remember - winner takes all!Do you like them open or closed?

Musomba2006
07-12-07, 06:55
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/07/11/kenya.crime.reut/index.html?eref=rss_world

Can the guys on the ground confirm the news?. Quite worrying.
B. Regards

LBForget about the human rights group. If a violent criminal is killed by the police, they will claim injustice. They will say bad things about the government just for the sake of it.

There is a cult called the 'mungiki' whoes followers are mostly desperado youths from the kikuyu tribe. They can be likened to the mafia of italy in that they survived by extracting protection money from businessmen in their area of jurisdiction. They are actually a lazy bunch of illiterates who cannot be bothered to earn an honest living but rather feed of other peoples effort.

The Moi government kept friends in the mungiki for politcal reasons, however the Kibaki government and in partiular Mr Michuki (internal security minister) think differently. This change in govenment attitude towards them coupled with public rebellion of matatu operators cumulating in televised lynching of suspected mungiki operators has resulted in this munguki back lash. It is primarily a Kikuyu problem and most of the violence occurs in kikuyu territory.

Also this is an election year and there are politicians who still believe that violence is the only way to protect their vote.

However, that being said, there is little reason for foreign tourists to be concerned for their safety.....unless you fancy mongering in the backwater slums of kibera or poor/crime infested parts of central province. Personally i am happy to read that police are busy killing gangsters, i think the taxes i pay are being well utilised here. Whatever the 'human rights' people think i dont believe violent criminals deserve any 'human rights'. Many of my friends percieve the 'human rights' people as puppets of western organisations whoes agenda is to maintain the 'keep africa looking messy' information mahine well oiled. Our law enforcement have a 'mafia' to get rid off and they should do it in the best way they can.

Musomba2006
07-12-07, 07:17
Made in kilifi.

Musomba2006
07-13-07, 08:27
I found this report on the BBC website:

(full article here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6291100.stm )

Prostitutes are known for their skimpy attire, but Kenya's coastal port of Mombasa is witnessing a controversial fashion makeover.

The twilight ladies, as the city's residents refer to the sex workers, have traded their revealing outfits for the more austere buibui - a loose, floor-length gown and head covering favoured by Muslim women.

Walking along the city's main red-light streets at night, one comes across many of the buibui-clad prostitutes.

Although most shy away from speaking to the press, a few are willing to talk.

"I'm better off wearing the buibui so I look respectable. I can avoid arrest. I am just trying to get some money to live on," one says.

Another claims she wears her buibui to hide her identity.

"I know I am sinning, but I'm forced to because I am looking for my livelihood. So to me, it's acceptable," she says.

Most of her customers are local men, not tourists. She says wearing a buibui helped them to more easily pick out women from the region.

But the phenomenon is causing a stir in the predominantly Muslim city where religious women are required to cover their bodies from head to toe.

Some female residents say it is a big disgrace.

"I feel so embarrassed that sometimes I contemplate removing my buibui and throwing it away. The buibui has lost its respect," Mariam Salma says.

Another resident, Asha Hussein, claims the sex workers are not native to Mombasa.
"They are not Muslims. Most are from Somalia and Ethiopia. They wear it to avoid public humiliation," she says.Back in the early 90's when I was younger and much more active in mongering scene, bui bui clad women were a common site standing at night waiting for motorists. Some of them would even be brought to hotels as 'visitors' then left to find their 'partners' (the whole idea is to look 'respectable') I have already described my experiences with two of them. This is certainly not a 'new'.thing in mombasa ;-)

Musomba2006
07-13-07, 10:06
Hi Guys!

The German guys are mainly to shy and the girls are bored from the behaviour of most black man, so if you are polite and funny, make them laugh and envite them for a meal. A lot goes. Unfortunately I have no photos from them all.

Amcon GuyNice photos, only wish they were black ;-)

Ever heared of SLOWODI?

Here is a story about a Black Kenyan Girl and her White German Lover. the whole article can be downloaded as a pdf from here

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/hearings/20050621/femm/ackermann_en.pdf

"The final category, domestic violence, is often linked with sex-tourism or marriage agen-cies. These women have come to Germany in the hope of finding a better life, even if they do not love their new partner. When they come to us they have usually experienced violence – psychological and/or physical. They have been kept ignorant, do not know their rights and often do not speak the language. They are completely dependent on their partners. We currently have a case of a Kenyan lady who married a German tourist. Her husband convinced her to leave her children in Kenya with her parents and come to Germany. She comes from very poor conditions and hoped that her future husband would be her salva-tion, hoped she would be able to send her children money for their education. After a few weeks back in Germany, during which time she was abused, the husband grew tired of her and asked the Alien’s Office where he could hand her in! She is now in a women’s shel-***, she has been informed of her rights, and has been given access to a lawyer. We hope she will not be deported before we can arrange a civil law suit against the husband. This isn’t the first “wife” he has picked up on holiday and whom he has discarded after a few weeks. But it is perfectly legal – the law is on his side. The tiresome wife has no rights, she will be deported and he no longer needs to worry. "

The Lucky Guy
07-13-07, 20:02
Really?Musomba! You must be the holder of the world championship in Sarcasm!!

I can understand your feeling/point of view though. All sides of the coin are welcome for me.

Musomba2006
07-14-07, 07:08
Musomba! You must be the holder of the world championship in Sarcasm!!

I can understand your feeling/point of view though. All sides of the coin are welcome for me.I guess we live in different environments so the things posted in this forum may not be seen in the same light by everybody. BTW thanx for the pics. She is wonderful!

Amcon Guy
07-14-07, 08:34
Hello Musomba,

I am very grateful for the information you gave to us. It is sad to hear about the situation of these women and of course this is not ok. If they are forced into prostitution, of course this is not right! And there is no justification to beat a women!

But you should also see, that a large percentage of these women has come to Europe with good skills about the law (a lot of them, whom I met already had a laywer, and were counting the days, to divorce, get permission to stay permanently of course and get money from their husband. But I also know quite some marriages that do work, when both sides really like and respect each other.

And I really see, that there is a big difference, between chasing up black women in Germany in the streets (who normally have a room, often shared with female friends, enough to eat, nice clothes, parfume, are going to the hairdresser every two weeks, . And the ladys in Africa, which are happy about a shower in a 5star Hotel! How is the live there for them?

The women I met were mostly in Germany already several years, some still not able to speak enough German, as they hang around with a large number of african friends all the time, maybe it is not easy to learn the language if you only have few german friends and don't get a language course for free.

But most of the women I met were in a stable relationship with a german guy, or already divorced, in their own flat. But did not get in the relationship what they needed. The husbands are very often 20 years or more older, don't give them enough money for their luxury demands (and I am talking about hair, parfume, shoes, clothes. They always tell me, that this is necessary and "I am a woman! ", . And they only get boring sex and the husbands don't want to go out over the weekend. This is where I can help them a little bit to have some fun! And this is no difference to what you guys are doing in Africa. Am I right?

So at the end some photos, but I really have not many!

As this is about Africa. We should not make this discussion too long. The others will probably be bored.

And I am still happy, that there are so many beautiful black ladys around and I do not have to fly to Africa all the time, with Malaria, Dengue and other deseases. (I have just been in South Africa for 2 months, so photos of two beauties from there you will find in this section) and other photos I already posted down in this section

Enjoy

Amconguy

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Musomba2006
07-14-07, 17:47
I saw the worlds tallest man on gettng married to a cute pettite in China and wondered just how tall his dick is. Maybe not that tall eh?

Anyway here is the kind of butt i always like.

Musomba2006
07-15-07, 12:46
Hello Musomba,

And I really see, that there is a big difference, between chasing up black women in Germany in the streets (who normally have a room, often shared with female friends, enough to eat, nice clothes, parfume, are going to the hairdresser every two weeks, . And the ladys in Africa, which are happy about a shower in a 5star Hotel! How is the live there for them?My girlfriend spends more money on clothes and other beaury products than food. I give her enough money for food and clothing etc and she spends virtually all of it on clothes etc etc then calls me saying she is hungry. Can I come over etc etc. Interesting to read the same happens in Germany. Then again what would life be without women.

Musomba2006
07-19-07, 15:37
I read Lucky Guy's experiences with Superman pills like Cialis with great interest. It sounds like a small price to pay to make the most out of your holiday!

Does anyone know how to get the pills past customs at the airport? Mail them to yourself at the hotel? Or does the Kenyan customs not care?

Also, how does the scene in Nairobi compare to Mombasa? I'll be arriving in Nairobi, but do you guys think making the long trip to Mombasa will be worth it, girl-wise?

Thanks!You can buy them over the counter at any well stocked chemist.

Last time I checked, genuine Viagra cost 900/= per tablet.

Musomba2006
07-19-07, 15:39
I read on the internet that they have banned smoking in three cities in Kenya.

Nairobi, Nakuru and Mombasa. Is this true and is it being enforced.
Kenya could be my next mongering destination if it has!

BFYes its true.

Musomba2006
07-19-07, 15:42
Pardon my ignorance but are white girls like her common in Kenya. If so where and how do you find them?Depends. if they are tourists then try the hotels. if they are locals then try the highclass places frequented by white society ( e.g mombasa club)

Musomba2006
07-19-07, 15:55
Pardon my ignorance but are white girls like her common in Kenya. If so where and how do you find them?Its very rare to see white women as pretty as the ones in max's pic here in kenya. 90% of the ones I have seen in kenya are ugly! It seems one has to travel all the way to europe to get the pretty ones.

Musomba2006
07-19-07, 16:11
http://rapidshare.com/files/40909115/chakacha.wmv

This might interest some.

Ebony Lvr
07-19-07, 23:19
Thanks for the info, Musomba2006!

Would the chemist require a prescription?


You can buy them over the counter at any well stocked chemist.

Last time I checked, genuine Viagra cost 900/= per tablet.

LustyHombre
07-20-07, 10:43
Thanks for the info, Musomba2006!

Would the chemist require a prescription?No, you don't need a prescription in Kenya.

I paid 3,400 for a blister of 4 at a MSA drugstore which incidentally displayed a big poster issued by Pfizer pointing out the tell-tale packaging details of fake Viagra .

Zimzam
07-20-07, 11:12
http://rapidshare.com/files/40909115/chakacha.wmv

This might interest some.It's a nice clip, I like the mutuashi dancing, do you know where it was filmed?

Musomba2006
07-20-07, 12:45
Surely there must be more people who can post pictures?

Picture posters are a lot more interesting than those who just give praises dont you think?

Musomba2006
07-21-07, 11:19
It's a nice clip, I like the mutuashi dancing, do you know where it was filmed?Hard to tell which hotel it was, however most big hotels ( e.g whitesands, reef and diani beach) usu allyhave some kind of entertainment in the evenings involving traditional dancing etc etc. This may have been a chakacha dancing competition hosted in one of them.

Interesting you call it mutuashi dancing. That's a congolese title is it not? Here I mombasa we call it chakacha ;-)

The Lucky Guy
07-22-07, 06:31
Superman pills like Cialis As mentioned by Musomba, there should not be a problem to buy what you need in Kenya. However, I would never leave it to faith that this crucial piece of travel equipment is to be found when i land. Buy it over the Internet! It's so easy and convenient! And probably cheaper.

Viagra was mentioned, but go for Cialis! It may not be more "powerful", but it lasts at least 36 hours compared to Viagras 6 hours. Your wife will notice the difference when you come home..:)

Pyjama
07-22-07, 11:01
Surely there must be more people who can post pictures?

#1833: Nice view of that black ass, but is there something stuffed up her pussy?
Sorry not to have any pictures at the moment :-(

Musomba2006
07-22-07, 16:39
In this very lovely forum (yes, I have had VERY, VERY good use of it! And like the daily chit/chat!) it is sometimes a sort of a.. what to say..competition on "how low can you go".

Skip that. If you get what you want from the perfect lady - come on - 2500 KS is CHEAP! Especially compared to whatever you can get in your home country! (Of course; ladies in establishments are always much more expensive than "free lancers"- BUT - a big advantage - they can be purchased with much less effort..! (you just had to walk a few meters before action instead of buying her a drink etc etc etc..)).

Yes, it can get cheaper but a more important thing - can it get better? For me: "better" is about the girls look (important for me), sometimes the degree of effort (ST vs LT), the degree of GFE, acceptance of my..peculiarities.. :D etc..

I think guys here, at least sometimes.. (and probably every where!!).. spend far to much energy and time on QUANTITY: the lower the price the better - regardless of the lady being totally unattractive or not, regardless or not if she behave as an asshole (sic!) or not etc.

IMHO: Don't chase the cheapest fuck, chase the best experience, but of course, read the forum (RTFF) so you can get a good value. But seriously, if you pay 1-20 dollars to much, is it really a headache worth to remember?? (not a question to you, LustyHombre, but to all of us here being Super-Focused on the price..)Well said Lucky guy...well said!

Musomba2006
07-22-07, 16:55
#1833: Nice view of that black ass, but is there something stuffed up her pussy?

Sorry not to have any pictures at the moment :-(You mean like this kind of pussy.

Rwenotmen
07-25-07, 23:16
I read on the internet that they have banned smoking in three cities in Kenya.

Nairobi, Nakuru and Mombasa. Is this true and is it being enforced.
Kenya could be my next mongering destination if it has!Yes its true.Prostitution is banned also. I'm sure the smoking ban will be enforced just as effectively!

Musomba2006
07-30-07, 21:21
In Kenya are prices for schort time 500s up to 1000s. For all night from 1000s to 2000s. If many person from this forum will paying more, so wath. Girlfriend of my work in hospital from 8pm to 8am (nightwork) for 150s /night end pay from this money 40s for transport. Than you can hef idee about the valeu from 1000s (biggest banknote of Kenya) The price hef notting to do howmatch sex price in country where toerist life. In Kenya, 80procent from persons hef not more than 5000s/month. I was visit this country 9 thimes in 18 months special destination sex.5000/= per month is generally paid to those who dont have professional qualifications and/or little or no formal education, or working for stingy asians. It is considered to be peanuts even by the ones who earn it. That is why so many young men and women who dropped out of school engage in prostitution part time or full time. It pays better than regular employment.

However, Your typical technician ( o/a level with diploma or technician certificate) in government will earn 10,000/= a month or more. Someone with a degree or higher diploma can expect to earn above 15,000/= per month n the civil service. Perhaps you can explain where you got the idea that 80% of Kenyans earn 5000/= per month? It seems you are talking of formal employment while many are in the informal sector and self employed. Here is some information on the pay for medical workers,

http://www.ilo.org/public/english/dialogue/sector/papers/pubserv/wp216.pdf

It seems your girlfriend is semi literate sweeper or something since nurses earn from 6,000 to 13,000 kenyan pounds per annum excluding house allowances ( one kenya pound = 20 kenya shillings) which works out at 10,000/= or more per month ( again excluding house allowances).

Willyboy
07-31-07, 01:18
5000/= per month is generally paid to those who dont have professional qualifications and/or little or no formal education, or working for stingy asians. It is considered to be peanuts even by the ones who earn it. That is why so many young men and women who dropped out of school engage in prostitution part time or full time. It pays better than regular employment.

However, Your typical technician ( o/a level with diploma or technician certificate) in government will earn 10,000/= a month or more. Someone with a degree or higher diploma can expect to earn above 15,000/= per month n the civil service. Perhaps you can explain where you got the idea that 80% of Kenyans earn 5000/= per month? It seems you are talking of formal employment while many are in the informal sector and self employed. Here is some information on the pay for medical workers,


http://www.ilo.org/public/english/dialogue/sector/papers/pubserv/wp216.pdf

It seems your girlfriend is semi literate sweeper or something since nurses earn from 6,000 to 13,000 kenyan pounds per annum excluding house allowances ( one kenya pound = 20 kenya shillings) which works out at 10,000/= or more per month ( again excluding house allowances).Yes, I am litthe bit agry with your information.

Today, I chat with one girl working cybercafe (Kassa) She work for commision money. Her cybercafe is open from 7am to 7h30 pm. 6 days/week. Her salery 3000s/month.

About nurse. Maby you gif right information. I think that the person wath I write maby not nurse, maby claening job.

Also I was chatting with woman with diplome high school with 35000s/month. But howmany girl hef possibillity to pay schoolmoney. 40000s/jaer in high school or 150000s in the university.

End you are correct if you write. The way betweem prostitution end work is very small if you not have education. Special in Kenya

Chi123
07-31-07, 02:36
5000/= per month is generally paid to those who dont have professional qualifications and/or little or no formal education, or working for stingy asians. It is considered to be peanuts even by the ones who earn it. That is why so many young men and women who dropped out of school engage in prostitution part time or full time. It pays better than regular employment.

However, Your typical technician ( o/a level with diploma or technician certificate) in government will earn 10,000/= a month or more. Someone with a degree or higher diploma can expect to earn above 15,000/= per month n the civil service. Perhaps you can explain where you got the idea that 80% of Kenyans earn 5000/= per month? It seems you are talking of formal employment while many are in the informal sector and self employed. Here is some information on the pay for medical workers,

http://www.ilo.org/public/english/dialogue/sector/papers/pubserv/wp216.pdf

It seems your girlfriend is semi literate sweeper or something since nurses earn from 6,000 to 13,000 kenyan pounds per annum excluding house allowances ( one kenya pound = 20 kenya shillings) which works out at 10,000/= or more per month ( again excluding house allowances).I have met a teacher for private schools in Kericho. He told me that he earns about 5000/= per month

Musomba2006
07-31-07, 14:01
Yes, I am litthe bit agry with your information.

Today, I chat with one girl working cybercafe (Kassa) She work for commision money. Her cybercafe is open from 7am to 7h30 pm. 6 days/week. Her salery 3000s/month.

About nurse. Maby you gif right information. I think that the person wath I write maby not nurse, maby claening job.

Also I was chatting with woman with diplome high school with 35000s/month. But howmany girl hef possibillity to pay schoolmoney. 40000s/jaer in high school or 150000s in the university.

End you are correct if you write. The way betweem prostitution end work is very small if you not have education. Special in KenyaNo need for you to be angry, unless you hate the thought that there are many Kenyans who earn more than the 5000/= you speak of and still feel poor. I certainly dont deny that there are many poorly paid workers but i dont think it is right for you to claim that 80% of Kenyan workers earn 5000/= and less without any concrete proof. Show some statistics, it would make much more interesting reading ;-)

Musomba2006
07-31-07, 14:20
I have met a teacher for private schools in Kericho. He told me that he earns about 5000/= per monthThat is not suprising. Its a private school so the stingy employers pay whatever they like.

Here is an article which gives an idea of what teachers employed by the government stand to earn.

http://www.timesnews.co.ke/24jul07/nwsstory/topstry.html

In particular i refer you to the following statement ( note the P1/2 is a primary school teacher):-

According to legal notice of 1997, a P2 teacher was to receive a minimum of Sh8, 610 while the maximum in the same category was Sh12,225. In the current circular, a teacher in that category will receive a minimum of Sh10,185 and a maximum of Sh12,345 an increase of Sh1, 575 and Sh90 respectively.

For a P1 teacher, the minimum paid rose from the initial Sh10,680 to Sh11,180 a raise of Sh500 while the maximum shown in the legal notice is Sh18,325 a difference of Sh 2,895 against Sh15, 430 contained in the TSC circular.

Musomba2006
07-31-07, 14:53
Yes, I am litthe bit agry with your information.

Today, I chat with one girl working cybercafe (Kassa) She work for commision money. Her cybercafe is open from 7am to 7h30 pm. 6 days/week. Her salery 3000s/month.

About nurse. Maby you gif right information. I think that the person wath I write maby not nurse, maby claening job.

Also I was chatting with woman with diplome high school with 35000s/month. But howmany girl hef possibillity to pay schoolmoney. 40000s/jaer in high school or 150000s in the university.

End you are correct if you write. The way betweem prostitution end work is very small if you not have education. Special in KenyaMy comments about paying 1000/= for LT.

1) Pretty, slim, pettite etc etc girls wil be very hard to get for 1000/=, unless you have the charm and countenances that Max has demonstrated. However ugly ones will be willing enough to go with you for 1000/=. Perhaps these are the ones you are refering to?

2) If you are white then you will earn the label 'kenya kimbo' ( i.e poor white kenyan) and will not do as well as your fellow whites who dont mind paying 2000 or more. I honestly dont see the logic of lowering yourself to such standards when it costs so little to show the girl some class. Then again if showing some class is not your style then you can ignore this statement.

3) If the slim, pettite/beautiful girl does go with you then keep your wallet locked up because she will be planning to steal something in compensation. Of course this does not apply if the girl is non pro and simply curious about what your foreign dick can do (or maybe hoping to get married and leave kenya for good).

4) If all foreigners paid 1000/= for LT there would be less motivation for pretty, slim and pettite girls to dress up and make them selves available in such large numbers that locals like me end up having a field day picking the nice ones who failed to get the white guy they are looking for. We would have to go the long route of tuning etc etc ;-)

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Musomba2006
08-01-07, 19:37
I've been told that a Kenyan deputy earns 10225 USD.I saw in the news the other day that the average pay for a CEO in Kenya is higher than their counterparts in the USA. Although i cannot find references to these findings on the internet but it could be true since our MP's are probable the best paid in the whole world

http://www.nationaudio.com/elections/keyissues/KeyIssues_Review89.html

Makes one wonder how kenya is classed as a poor country when people can earn so much money.

Fortunatley one does not need such high salaries to get good clean pussy.

Tcmits
08-02-07, 15:21
No need for you to be angry, unless you hate the thought that there are many Kenyans who earn more than the 5000/= you speak of and still feel poor. I certainly dont deny that there are many poorly paid workers but i dont think it is right for you to claim that 80% of Kenyan workers earn 5000/= and less without any concrete proof. Show some statistics, it would make much more interesting reading ;-)At the school I helped build we pay preschool teachers 5000/= per month and primary school teachers 10500/per month. The grounds keeper and security guards get 4200/per month. Depending on which stat you go with unemployment is 40-60%. A 5000/per month job would make most people extremely happy. 23% of the population lives on under $1 per day, more in rural areas. $1/day translates to about 2000/per month.

Musomba2006
08-03-07, 15:17
A 5000/per month job would make most people extremely happy. Really? Not where i live. Maybe in the rural areas where people grow their own food etc etc.

Musomba2006
08-03-07, 15:30
Good post... I always see cats posting these lanky(skinny) ass chics in the African threads... Which is ok if thats what you like but any guy that has true love for african women knows its all about the ASS!!!! Good post buddy and please post more if you have it.I love them black, african and slim. Just like the masai, trukana, nandi and nubians. In fact there is a nubian tradition that encouages women to be slim. traditionally they were slim and some had a body cult of going around naked.

Have you seen the Kenyan long distance runners and netball/volleyball women. wonderful shapely and trim.

I dont find obese women attractive wether african or european. Its unhealthy to be fat. You can get highblood pressure, diabetes , ugly kids, floppy shapeless asses etc etc.

Carl Schmitt
08-03-07, 18:14
I love them black, african and slim. Just like the masai, turkana, nandi and nubians. In fact there is a nubian tradition that encourages women to be slim. traditionally they were slim and some had a body cult of going around naked.The same traditions in Rwanda and Burundi, the same rules, to avoid fat food, take meat and milk only, sometimes honey, to make sport. These slim, beautiful, and tall women can sweep you off your feet. But every foot (or dick) as is own shoe (or pussy), that is its own taste! Karibu ultra fat ass lovers, karibu slim women lovers :))

Pet Phunt
08-03-07, 19:52
I love them black, african and slim. Just like the masai, trukana, nandi and nubians. In fact there is a nubian tradition that encouages women to be slim. traditionally they were slim and some had a body cult of going around naked.

Have you seen the Kenyan long distance runners and netball/volleyball women. wonderful shapely and trim.

I dont find obese women attractive wether african or european. Its unhealthy to be fat. You can get highblood pressure, diabetes , ugly kids, floppy shapeless asses etc etc.We all have different tastes. What you like may not be what I like. Comments like these are not nice. Who said we do not know the implication of obesity. Do not call kids ugly. It is uncalled for. I hope we would learn to tolerate everyone's choice irrrespective of our dislikes.

AfAsia
08-03-07, 22:51
You can buy them over the counter at any well stocked chemist.

Last time I checked, genuine Viagra cost 900/= per tablet.

Correct me if i am wrong. Are you chaps talking about unprescribed enhancers?

If so, can one just walk into a chemist in Kenya and purchase them? I have managed to buy unprescribed medication in the past. However, for Cialis, this may well prove difficult.

Musomba2006
08-03-07, 23:40
Correct me if i am wrong. Are you chaps talking about unprescribed enhancers?

If so, can one just walk into a chemist in Kenya and purchase them? I have managed to buy unprescribed medication in the past. However, for Cialis, this may well prove difficult.20MG tablet of cialis costs 920/=. Expensive but as i found out ( after reading lucky guys comments and deciding to try it out) it was well worth it. As Lucky guy said, its better for you to come with your own as these can run out of stock. I once had to wait for 30 minutes while the shop attendant nipped over to their other shop to get some. Although I did not need a prescription, I ended getting back to work 40 minutes late.

Trick Williams
08-04-07, 06:12
I love them black, african and slim. Just like the masai, trukana, nandi and nubians. In fact there is a nubian tradition that encouages women to be slim. traditionally they were slim and some had a body cult of going around naked.

Have you seen the Kenyan long distance runners and netball/volleyball women. wonderful shapely and trim.

I dont find obese women attractive wether african or european. Its unhealthy to be fat. You can get highblood pressure, diabetes , ugly kids, floppy shapeless asses etc etc.

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

Keep up the good work Tradewinds.

Musomba2006
08-05-07, 19:56
We all have different tastes. What you like may not be what I like. Comments like these are not nice. Who said we do not know the implication of obesity. Do not call kids ugly. It is uncalled for. I hope we would learn to tolerate everyone's choice irrrespective of our dislikes.Ok. Now you may like to say the same to trick williams who critisised pictures of what he refers to as 'skinny' women being posted in an african forum. Here is what he said.

"Good post. I always see cats posting these lanky (skinny) ass chics in the African threads. Which is ok if thats what you like but any guy that has true love for african women knows its all about the ASS! Good post buddy and please post more if you have it. "

I post pictures because I like to. I don't get paid to do it. Nobody pays me to do it. I don't even get a 'post of distinction' for it. I spend money, get the girl, photograph her then post for free in this forum because I enjoy it. Therefore for somebody to go critisizing the photos, IMHO, deserves the kind of retaliation I made. Trick williams should get his own photos of the fat women he likes and post them in this forum. It would be much more interesting than critisizing other peoples pictures. To that effect I maintain that fat kids are ugly. In fact fat=ugly unless its my bank account or the christmas turkey. However ugly women do have a place as authority figures e. G matrons, bosses, policewomen etc etc.

BtW I have not critisized trade winds. I think he does well to post pictures for those who like fat women.

Musomba2006
08-06-07, 17:55
About 5 years ago, along hailesselassie road and within the neibourhood of Congoboys football club, there was a swahili type house where you could get sex for as little as 50khs a pop. The women were typically fat andalways wearing lessos. Now a days you will find them in such places as Kibokoni and Majengo. These brothels are popular amongst low income earners and could be one of the reasons why it is precieved that Africans like fat women. They are actually the cheapest/easiest to get. Maybe one day i will put up a website featuring these fat women as it seems it can also make some good money ;-)

Musomba2006
08-06-07, 19:56
A little music video I created some time ago for those who love fat women. She is a giriama from the coast of Kenya and at the time had one kid already.

http://rapidshare.com/files/47267773/sera.rar

Enjoy

Musomba2006
08-06-07, 21:31
If every guy wanted to have exactly the same kind of ladies it would be chaos. No matter how anyone looks - there will always be someone liking that particular look.

Taste and preference can be VERY different: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=76722Heavy duty shock absorbers recommended ;-)

Musomba2006
08-09-07, 11:28
Guys

After a successful trip to Odessa and Prague, I will be in Nairobi at Aug 17 Just a few days from now.

Anyone that interesting to join my daytime action are invited to PM me. Beer is also an option.

Mosumba, are you ready? I will be later in Mombasa as well, so it will be my pleasure to buy a few beers.

MaxHi max.

I have sent a PM.

Musomba2006
08-14-07, 07:31
Anybody heared of kenda's. Its a bar nearby casurina but further inside. They have semi nude strip shows on saturdays. looks like the place you would take your girlfriend rather than a place to get girls.

Sleedy
08-17-07, 15:07
If I use the term 'white man' (as I did in earlier posts) I will be accused of being racist hence the choice of word 'foreigner' as was suggested by somebody on this board.

BTW. Her exact words were 'mzungu wa maana' and not 'mtu wa maana' as she was specifically refering to white men. Girls generally don't use the textbook swahili you are preaching.I'd like to clarify some things: the word MZUNGU comes from the word KIZUNGU, which in swahili means The English language. It started being used to refer to the English man. The swahili language refers different races/ethnic groups by the langauge they speak therefore a Giriama would be referred to as Mgiriama..and so forth. To put have uniformity the word was adopted to refer to the White man regardless of origin.

However over the years it has been commercialised hence getting a material sense to it, but in general it has no offence when speaking to a common man:)

Rwenotmen
08-17-07, 17:58
Musomba2006, where is that photo taken? It looks like a regular home, not a hotel or such.

Oh yeah, nice view!

DG69
08-17-07, 19:48
Anybody heared of kenda's. Its a bar nearby casurina but further inside. They have semi nude strip shows on saturdays. looks like the place you would take your girlfriend rather than a place to get girls.

Wow, that is the perfect backside. That girl is really hot. If I could be sure to met a girl with such a body in Kenia than I wouldn't hesitate to spent my next holiday there..

Musomba2006
08-18-07, 06:36
I'd like to clarify some things: the word MZUNGU comes from the word KIZUNGU, which in swahili means The English language. It started being used to refer to the English man. The swahili language refers different races/ethnic groups by the langauge they speak therefore a Giriama would be referred to as Mgiriama..and so forth. To put have uniformity the word was adopted to refer to the White man regardless of origin.

However over the years it has been commercialised hence getting a material sense to it, but in general it has no offence when speaking to a common man:)With all due respect, I beg to differ. The word 'kingereza' means english so therefore an englishman would be called 'muingereza'. Similarly 'kigermani' means 'german' so a german fellow would be called 'mugermani' However some people do view the word 'kizungu' to mean 'english', perhaps because of the colonial experience, it actually means 'white man' but can also mean 'englishman' in a loose social sense ( because it can also be used to describe italians, swiss, french and any other white skinned non asiatic, non albino people). Now, that being said, the word mzungu conjures up images of jet set lifestyles and salvation in many poor womens minds (regardless if its a mugermani, muitaliano, muswiss etc etc).

Musomba2006
08-18-07, 06:53
Musomba2006, where is that photo taken? It looks like a regular home, not a hotel or such.

Oh yeah, nice view!It was taken in her room. I'll try and get some video of the show at Kenda's. The last time I was there the bouncer told me its forbidden to photograph the dancers and therafter, during the show, kept a close watch on me. Next time i will have to be more covert ;-).

Incidentally, there are 3 girls who perform and I loved the last one, she had the body that I just love so much.

The lighting is usually low key so nightshot may be the way to go.

Musomba2006
08-18-07, 06:54
Wow, that is the perfect backside. That girl is really hot. If I could be sure to met a girl with such a body in Kenia than I wouldn't hesitate to spent my next holiday there..I found her at Casurina. You may also like to try Tembo Disco. Lucky Guy will testify to that.

Gladiator
08-19-07, 03:00
Anybody heared of kenda's. Its a bar nearby casurina but further inside. They have semi nude strip shows on saturdays. looks like the place you would take your girlfriend rather than a place to get girls.
Kendas is a hotel, with a nightclub on the ground floor. You can also pick girls there but the variety is more limited than at Casaurina.

Musomba2006
08-20-07, 08:03
Kendas is a hotel, with a nightclub on the ground floor. You can also pick girls there but the variety is more limited than at Casaurina.Nice pictures!

Never knew Kendas was a hotel. First thing I see is the bar, nowhere do they indicate its a hotel. Thanks for the heads up ;-)

Musomba2006
08-20-07, 08:05
Just my size. Enjoy the short video ;-)

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Musomba2006
08-24-07, 10:58
Not only did she have matako mazuri (nice buttocks), she also had kuma tamu sana (very sweet pussy)

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Randy Candy
08-25-07, 01:08
Hi Guys (and Girls ;)

I'm new to this board and really enjoying your great reports. Many thanks to Max, LuckyGuy, Musomba, Blastoff and all the others contributing to this part of the forum. It helped me a lot for preparing my holiday to Nairobi/Mombasa end of september. I really enjoyed your postings and pics. After some days in Nairobi I would like to have a nice trip to Mombasa taking a pleasant rest at the coast.

Some of you are fully equipped with electronical hardware, especially Max, it seems. I would like to ask where you store your electronical equipment. Have a DSLR and maybe a vidcam and won't like to miss it when leaving home. As there are no safes in budget rooms (~2500ksh), is it safe to store them in room anyway? I think about staying at a nice little cottage in Bamburi Beach Resort. Will desk staff get annoyed when I come twice a day taking my stuff from their safe? Of course I would use fairly high security precautions anyway (Signed list of stored equipment, inconspicuous bag...)

Would be sad if I couldn't share some pics with you ;)

BDSM sounds nice. I think of a script for a good photoshoot for a Bondage Session with 2 playful slim beauties :)

Musomba2006
08-26-07, 08:45
Not only did she have matako mazuri (nice buttocks), she also had kuma tamu sana (very sweet pussy)

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If you have photos you wish to share with the Forum Members, then please post them here. Please read the Forum's Photo Guidelines for further information.Thank You.OK jackson but the file in question was not a photo. It was a movie. If ISG had facility for uploading video I would not have used Rapidshare!

Musomba2006
08-26-07, 14:13
I have, I guess, the same interest as you have, albeit mine is more on the softer side, and I have been looking out for the possibility in Kenya (see this pictures: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69112, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69501, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69656, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=73534, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=73535 ) but...

I can't claim I know much about Kenya as I only been there once. I guess Musomba knows much more about this as he lives there but it is on the other hand difficult to know what water is when you are a fish :) ( I would definitely like to hear your comment about this Musomba!).

But, with my limited experience, I would say that it's at least 10 times more likely that you will find a lady accepting BDSM in for example Thailand then in Kenya. Kenyan women are available, yes, but they are not prostitutes in the same way as in Thailand. It's a very confusing difference in culture. Yes, there are prostitutes in Kenya, but on the other hand, any woman is more or less available. Does it mean all Kenyan ladies ARE prostitutes? No, it doesn't.

It's not the time to go into this in detail but I wrote about my findings in this report : http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=588298#post588298 )

I would say this:

∑ Yes you will surprisingly enough be able to score with almost any lady,
∑ Yes you should always pay her something - albeit called "taxi money"
∑ No, you wont find any more ladies fancying BDSM than for example in Europe (and no less for that matter!)

If you want to indulge in "special interest mongering things" then you should go to countries having a developed sex industry. Kenya doesn't have that! It doesn’t mean it's not the perfect place to go to, but, as far as my conclusion goes, no, just like in Europe, most women will not accept BDSM before they know you very well. In Europe, as far as I am concerned, most women willingly accept soft forms of BDSM when they know the fellow.

Kenyan women are NOT submissive! They are, as far as I can see, VERY proud of themselves. I would say that more or less anything is possible or negotiable in Thailand, but not so in Kenya (please correct me if I'm wrong, Musomba)

The reason for this is the following; most ladies you will encounter, that are really ATTRACTIVE, will be found at discos and similar. They are NOT prostitutes in the same way as ladies are in for example Pattaya, but, they are AVAILABLE in a sense that I not fully understand. But certainly appreciate! (I wrote more about it here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=589957#post589957 )

Good luck and please report back if I am wrong (or for that matter: if I'm right) about BDSM in Kenya!I think the Male fish would focus more on the food, females and male competition than the water that all of them swim in.

Many girls will be suprised to see a vibrator let alone handcuffs and whips. I would say most girls expect sex to be the simple dick in pussy or mouth, but with familiarity and trust they can be open to gentle experiment.

I once showed my girlfriend a vibrator. She called it Mboro ya plastic ( i.e plastic dick) and

1) wondered why I bought it.

2) Threatened to leave me if i ever tried to use it on her.

One month later when she was randy and I was too tired to have sex, she asked if she could use it. I reckon she would eventually agree to some bondage if i 'paid' her enough and she was in the right mood.

Footproof
08-28-07, 21:29
It turns out this white guy is quite popular on this forum and has posted may photos of his exploits of the freebees in kenya and other African countries. .Efremof? If so it is your duty to give him a heads up rather than post lame warnings.

Randy Candy
08-28-07, 23:19
To deny them that benefit while making videos that make you into a millionaire (by kenyan standards) can only work against you in the long run. I am quite sure if this white guy would have been generous with his money, these girls would not have such hatred for him. In fact they would be happy to get him even more girls.What a true epilog!

I fancy the erotic photoshoot, sailing near the wind to pornographic pictures. For those who can differ. Besides that. Nature, fauna and flora, and people in their allday life. If this would lead to a significant income I would be happy to share it with those who helped me the "business" starting.

Anyway, I really appreciate the pics in this forum. Was good to see what beautiful girls Kenya has to offer yet; )

BTW: I would be really thankful if someone could help with his experience how to handle the security "problem" for my equipment storing in-room or in a Front Desk safe.

A nice girl (photographer: Paascal Renoux):

Musomba2006
08-29-07, 09:12
Efremof? If so it is your duty to give him a heads up rather than post lame warnings.1) I dont have a duty towards foreigners who do such things. I pity the girls who fall into such traps.

2) Consider this 'lame warning' to be a 'heads up' for anybody in this forum.

Carl Schmitt
08-30-07, 07:20
1) I dont have a duty towards foreigners

Don't you have a problem with foreigners Musomba ?

I saw a little bit of tribalism when you have written that some girls are "yours".

Is your post a warning or a menace ?

An explosion of paranoia and will of control ?

An expression of magical thinking ?

Do you really believe that this fake threat will make all the members of the thead to stop to be happy toward their activities ?

Musomba2006
08-30-07, 08:28
Don't you have a problem with foreigners Musomba ?

I saw a little bit of tribalism when you have written that some girls are "yours".

Is your post a warning or a menace ?

An explosion of paranoia and will of control ?

An expression of magical thinking ?

Do you really believe that this fake threat will make all the members of the thead to stop to be happy toward their activities ?Your ignorance of the meaning of the word 'tribalism' makes it pointless to continue.

Schuerzenjaeger
08-30-07, 12:49
1) I dont have a duty towards foreigners who do such things. I pity the girls who fall into such traps.

2) Consider this 'lame warning' to be a 'heads up' for anybody in this forum.Musomba,

Frankly speaking, you should be on this board because you think you belong to a group of guys called mongerers.

We do not distinguish between foreign and local, black or white or big or small etc.
We are all men with the same hobby, distinguishable only by our member names.
Even if you don't agree to the way some people do their filming, you should be fair to your fellow mongerers and warn them, help them, advice them, even criticize them.
You do similar stuff, maybe you are more wise regarding payments, low profile etc, but then teach other people, don't be arrogant.

In the end, it is to the benefit of all of us if our hobby does not create negative publicity in whatever way!

If you would ever visit my country, you wouldn't be a foreigner, you would be another mongerer. And people would help you to avoid mistakes.

If you do not agree to these principles and you think you have to classify (and this is not the first time, if you look at your earlier reports), you should leave this board!!!

Barri
08-30-07, 18:24
1) I dont have a duty towards foreigners Don't you have a problem with foreigners Musomba ?

I saw a little bit of tribalism when you have written that some girls are "yours".

Is your post a warning or a menace ?

An explosion of paranoia and will of control ?

An expression of magical thinking ?

Do you really believe that this fake threat will make all the members of the thead to stop to be happy toward their activities ?CS: Falsifying quotes and then make horrendous interpretations and extrapolations of that manipulated quote is not benefitting the forum. Musomba said exactly:
1) I dont have a duty towards foreigners who do such things. I pity the girls who fall into such traps.See the difference? Do you care to understand the difference? Or is it that you have been reading to much Harry Potter lately?

Personally I don't think that any forum member has a duty to any other member other than trying to be honest in the forum.

Carl Schmitt
08-30-07, 19:14
CS: Falsifying quotes and then make horrendous interpretations and extrapolations of that manipulated quote is not benefitting the forum. Musomba said exactly:See the difference? Do you care to understand the difference? Or is it that you have been reading to much Harry Potter lately?

Personally I don't think that any forum member has a duty to any other member other than trying to be honest in the forum.
Sorry for Harry Potter, I've never seen the movies nor read the books so I don't understand what you've said.

In fact, I've take to much words in my quote.

I could only have quote the word "foreigner".

If you have broken a law in a country, does it matter if you are a foreigner or not ?

IMHO I don't make such differences between the foreigner and the citizen etc. and I dislike the people who are making it.

And I give myself the right to say it. Let's call a jealous a jealous.

My report would be the same if I've quoted the whole Musomba2006 report.

But now, let's the main characters of this scene express themselves, and for the question of duty, I agree with you.

MarcoStraight
08-30-07, 21:00
my girlfriend has many friends in the malaya (prostitute) circuit so i sometimes get to sample some juice from the malaya grapevine.

recently it was all about a certain white guy who walks 'kama bata' (walks like a duck).

it turns out this guy (who fancies hmself as a professional mongerer) is well known by these malayas for getting his oats for free and recording all of it on video. he has even boasted of making so much money that he now plans to buy a boat and make investments in kenya.

one of the girls he videographed lost her european boyfriend after he saw her video on a european porn site. other girls have also related bad experiences they have undergone in the hands of this white guy.

these girls are planning to get him arrested./extorted. my advice to him is to get out of kenya unless he is prepared to deal with the kenya police. it will be unwise to do any kind of investment as this will only make you more conspicious.make no mistake, not long ago we saw, on tv, a frenchman being arrested and dragged away by police after being accused of taking photos of girls without their consent. being white in actually a disadvantage in such situations as there is then the perception that they have come here to abuse our girls and then make a lot of money for themselves only.

it turns out this white guy is quite popular on this forum and has posted may photos of his exploits of the freebees in kenya and other african countries.


hi masumba , are you talking about efremof ? just curious.....

Musomba2006
08-30-07, 21:10
Sorry for Harry Potter, I've never seen the movies nor read the books so I don't understand what you've said.

In fact, I've take to much words in my quote.

I could only have quote the word "foreigner".

If you have broken a law in a country, does it matter if you are a foreigner or not ?

IMHO I don't make such differences between the foreigner and the citizen etc. and I dislike the people who are making it.

And I give myself the right to say it. Let's call a jealous a jealous.

My report would be the same if I've quoted the whole Musomba2006 report.

But now, let's the main characters of this scene express themselves, and for the question of duty, I agree with you.There is a clear difference between Foreigner and local. As mentioned earlier, Foreigners are generally percieved to be wealthier and therefore more preferable by many malayas. They are also likley to be more adventurous and daring than locals because they have spent a lot of money to come down for holiday and will be keen not to waste any moment of the limited days they will spend here. With relativley more money it is unfair to expect free sex from girls who due to poverty and other hardships, sacrifice their dignity to please a total stranger ( especiallty if videos are made which are then sold to porno websites with nothing going back to the girl). If I went to England, I would also be percieved as a foreigner however, so long as it is in a positive light i would have no objections. If i went there and spread aids or did something that offended the local girls, it would only be natural for the local men to take offence. This would be my fault and not their prejudice.

BTW there is no reason for me to be jealous. I have a wonderful girlfriend and have made good money from selling porn (with all due reward going to the girls involved). Girls involved know what i do and not one of then seeks to make trouble for me because they know i am a good source of income for them.

Musomba2006
08-30-07, 21:23
Hi Masumba , are you talking about Efremof ? Just curious.....I met Max at Bobs. He does have a unique way of walking. Thge following day I mentioned to my girlfriend about a white guy who gets his oats for free and even makes videos who i met at bobs. Now in that small room there were 6 malaya s(including my wonderful girlfriend). They immediatley took interest and asked what the guys name was. When they heared it was Max all hell broke loose. Every girl knew him. I was stunned by their reactions and stories because these girls were certainly not freebies. Kenyan malayas can look like very descent funloving girls. They are great actors.

Barri
08-30-07, 22:00
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And I give myself the right to say it. Let's call a jealous a jealous.

My report would be the same if I've quoted the whole Musomba2006 report.
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Don't you have a problem with foreigners Musomba ?.....CS, obviously you give yourself the right to interpret text quite freely. Seems to me (from previous posts) that you have a problem with Musomba. (And if you are implying [I admit that this is a risky interpretation of your text] that Musomba should be jealous of the 'kamba bata', well.... I don't know what to say...)

Francis Black
08-30-07, 22:10
The reasoning in Musomba2006's post is well made.

I wouldn't jump on the word foreigner; just translate it with guest / or monger and it all makes sense. He just states that most of the girls are in the business for money.

If, for some reason (e.g. pretend to fall in love) you constantly try to get it for free, you're playing with feelings.

If then, on top, it is assumed you making money with it, well,...that can provoke even more feelings.

So yes, if a local would do it, it most probably would have the same result.

Luambo
08-30-07, 22:37
my girlfriend has many friends in the malaya (prostitute) circuit so i sometimes get to sample some juice from the malaya grapevine.

recently it was all about a certain white guy who walks 'kama bata' (walks like a duck).

it turns out this guy (who fancies hmself as a professional mongerer) is well known by these malayas for getting his oats for free and recording all of it on video. he has even boasted of making so much money that he now plans to buy a boat and make investments in kenya.

one of the girls he videographed lost her european boyfriend after he saw her video on a european porn site. other girls have also related bad experiences they have undergone in the hands of this white guy.

these girls are planning to get him arrested./extorted. my advice to him is to get out of kenya unless he is prepared to deal with the kenya police. it will be unwise to do any kind of investment as this will only make you more conspicious.make no mistake, not long ago we saw, on tv, a frenchman being arrested and dragged away by police after being accused of taking photos of girls without their consent. being white in actually a disadvantage in such situations as there is then the perception that they have come here to abuse our girls and then make a lot of money for themselves only.

it turns out this white guy is quite popular on this forum and has posted may photos of his exploits of the freebees in kenya and other african countries.

i reiterate once again, our girls are out primarly to make money. to deny them that benefit while making videos that make you into a millionaire (by kenyan standards) can only work against you in the long run. i am quite sure if this white guy would have been generous with his money, these girls would not have such hatred for him. in fact they would be happy to get him even more girls.i think this thread is going to get nasty jason should block it or delete all together. musomba if you have issues with efremomf why don't you pm him privately. there is nothing wrong with freebies. efremom has contributed alot to the board leave him alone.

kenyan police are among the most corrupt in the world and please don't mention them again.

please don't say they are your girls you don't own them.

i think musomba has issues ever since his images advertising his paysite were deleted byjason.

Musomba2006
08-31-07, 04:59
I think this thread is going to get nasty Jason should block it or delete all together. Musomba if you have issues with Efremomf why don't you pm him privately. There is nothing wrong with freebies. Efremom has contributed alot to the board leave him alone.

Kenyan police are among the most corrupt in the world and please don't mention them again.

Please don't say they are your girls you don't own them.

I think Musomba has issues ever since his images advertising his paysite were deleted byJason.By saying 'our girls' I meant ''Kenyan girls' and not 'my girls'. There is a difference. I am a kenyan...just like them. Obviously i dont own them.

You may notice i stopped embedding text in my images and continued posting them (following Lucky guys encouragement). I no longer adverise the site on this forum, i dont need to advertise the site on this forum. Deleting of those images with embedded text has nothing to do with the issues i have expressed.

There is everything wrong with getting services from malayas, who expect payment for it, but who then dont not get paid.

Yes Kenya police are very corrupt. You dont want to involve yourself with them. This can happen if you develop a reputation for videotaping and fucking malayas without paying them. You may see nothing wrong wih 'conning' the poor girls, however i feel obliged to make this known to all on this board for their safety and wisdom.

I have nothing against Max's contributions on this forum. I do however object to the way he got those images (as told by malayas i know). I thought the girls were not prostitutes and the images were non commercial.

Musomba2006
08-31-07, 05:02
I think this thread is going to get nasty Jason should block it or delete all together. Musomba if you have issues with Efremomf why don't you pm him privately. There is nothing wrong with freebies. Efremom has contributed alot to the board leave him alone.

Kenyan police are among the most corrupt in the world and please don't mention them again.

Please don't say they are your girls you don't own them.

I think Musomba has issues ever since his images advertising his paysite were deleted byJason.By saying 'our girls' I meant ''Kenyan girls' and not 'my girls'. There is a difference. I am a kenyan...just like them. Obviously i dont own them.

You may notice i stopped embedding text in my images and continued posting them (following Lucky guys encouragement). I no longer adverise the site on this forum, i dont need to advertise the site on this forum. Deleting of those images with embedded text has nothing to do with the issues i have expressed.

There is everything wrong with getting services from malayas, who expect payment for it, but who then dont not get paid.

Yes Kenya police are very corrupt. You dont want to involve yourself with them. This can happen if you develop a reputation for videotaping and fucking malayas without paying them. You may see nothing wrong wih 'conning' the poor girls, however i feel obliged to make this known to all on this board for their safety and wisdom.

I have nothing against Max's contributions on this forum. I do however object to the way he got those images (as told by malayas i know). I thought the girls were not prostitutes and the images were non commercial.

Carl Schmitt
08-31-07, 09:33
CS, obviously you give yourself the right to interpret text quite freely. Seems to me (from previous posts) that you have a problem with Musomba. (And if you are implying [I admit that this is a risky interpretation of your text] that Musomba should be jealous of the 'kamba bata', well.... I don't know what to say...)

Mosumba pretend to be a monger but in fact is very different. A you know in kenya
surviving is the only drive. Musumba was the one that find this girl and show her the photos.

I met this guy, he is not a monger just a poor guy that want to make some money. The deal was that the girl will take money and pay musumba some.

How musumba knew that? the only answer is very simple. he was the one that show the girl the photos.

thus who really know kenya knows that the term "Kenyan Monger" does not exist.
the only drive is money.

becarful from him, he his a dangerus guy and very smoth . he new in our forum and you all know me for years. He was the one that make the deal with the girl.



Do you understand the problem now ?

Guapoloco
08-31-07, 12:34
I think that the user Musomba 2006 should be banned out from this forum.

After Max' words ther is no reason Musomba still attend this forum. He's only a spy, a dangerous people for all of us mongerers.

Efremeof, really very sorry for what happened to you with this bad guy.

Musomba2006
08-31-07, 17:21
Mosumba pretend to be a monger but in fact is very different. A you know in kenya surviving is the only drive. Musumba was the one that find this girl and show her the photos.

I met this guy, he is not a monger just a poor guy that want to make some money. The deal was that the girl will take money and pay musumba some.

How musumba knew that? The only answer is very simple. He was the one that show the girl the photos.Actually its the girls european boyfriend who confronted her with the photos and then left her.

Musomba2006
08-31-07, 17:46
i'm very sorry about this max. i hope you will find a way to escape of this trap.think about what max said. he claims i teamed up with a girl with plans of extortion. if this was my intention i would not have made the 'malaya grapevine' post as this would stupidly alert him and give enough time for him to escape.

max hardly knows me. we met for only about 5 minutes at bobs, i paid for my drink and left him. if he thinks i am poor then that is his opinion however poor people dont go for drinks at bobs.

it is instructive that he claims kenyan mongerers don't exist. in his opinion its only foreigners who sleep with malayas right? what else does he believe?

Carl Schmitt
09-01-07, 07:21
think about what max said. he claims i teamed up with a girl with plans of extortion. if this was my intention i would not have made the 'malaya grapevine' post as this would stupidly alert him and give enough time for him to escape.

max hardly knows me. we met for only about 5 minutes at bobs, i paid for my drink and left him. if he thinks i am poor then that is his opinion however poor people dont go for drinks at bobs.

it is instructive that he claims kenyan mongerers don't exist. in his opinion its only foreigners who sleep with malayas right? what else does he believe?
dear musomba,

this kind of arguments may convince a 18 year old girl without education (neither from school nor from life) but not me.

i think it's highly probable that your plan has not worked. max has leaved the mombasa zone without giving the blackmail's money. and that now, you're trying to frighten him to come back in kenya, on the base of the picture and movies that you have collected on this site.

i think max was using the word 'poor' not in the sense that you're a beggar unable to pay his own 150 bob beer, but in the sense of 'mean'.

the words 'kenyan monger' has surely been written under the effect of anger or disapointment. there is great kenyan mongers in this site.

Musomba2006
09-01-07, 08:23
Dear Musomba,

this kind of arguments may convince a 18 year old girl without education (neither from school nor from life) but not me.

I think It's highly probable that your plan has not worked. Max has leaved the Mombasa zone without giving the blackmail's money. And that now, you're trying to frighten him to come back in Kenya, on the base of the picture and movies that you have collected on this site.

I think Max was using the word 'poor' not in the sense that you're a beggar unable to pay his own 150 bob beer, but in the sense of 'MEAN'.

The words 'kenyan monger' has surely been written under the effect of anger or disapointment. There is great kenyan mongers in this site.Your opinion no doubt.

Musomba2006
09-01-07, 08:44
True story. A girl I know once met a white guy who took her to his house for sex. In the morning he asked her to wait for him outside the gate as he takes out the car. When she obliged, he locked the gate and went back to sleep. The poor girl had no fare and never got paid so she had to walk the 30 or so kilometers back to mombasa town.

Right now she dreams of teaming up with local thugs and robbing an unsuspecting white tourist then retiring from prostitution for good.

Now, I just feel pity for any white tourist who meets this girl and goes with her thinking he has got a good catch. Kenya Kimbos have already been there and poisoned her attitude towards Whites.

The crazy thing is that local Blacks already have a bad reputation for doing the same thing, which is what drives the girls to look for Whites.

Musomba2006
09-01-07, 09:43
Dear Musomba,

I think It's highly probable that your plan has not worked. Max has leaved the Mombasa zone without giving the blackmail's money. And that now, you're trying to frighten him to come back in Kenya, on the base of the picture and movies that you have collected on this site.Do you smoke Pot or Datura?

I adviced Max to leave Kenya for his own good. How does that translate into scaring him to come back to Mombasa? Would it not be more prudent to send him an SMS or PM? Why let everyone in this forum know?

Yes I like to make much money and Kenyans are moving up and down to make money anyway they can, however extorting tourists is not my line of work. If it was I would not have met Max alone, or left him so quickly.

My post was meant to be a heads up for Max and others like him.

What movies are you refering to? I have not seen any.

It seems you support Kenya kimbos eh? I have heared of tourists getting robbed / killed in Kenya, maybe they are Kenya kimbos who refused to heed to warnings?

Its interesting how you choose to 'kill' the messenger Perhaps you also come to Kenyas to con the girls?

LustyHombre
09-01-07, 15:33
Mosumba pretend to be a monger but in fact is very different. A you know in kenya surviving is the only drive. Musumba was the one that find this girl and show her the photos.

I met this guy, he is not a monger just a poor guy that want to make some money. The deal was that the girl will take money and pay musumba some.

How musumba knew that? The only answer is very simple. He was the one that show the girl the photos.

Thus who really know kenya knows that the term "Kenyan Monger" does not exist. The only drive is money.

Becarful from him, he his a dangerus guy and very smoth. He new in our forum and you all know me for years. He was the one that make the deal with the girl. What a shock to see 2 icons of the Mombasa scene (or so I thought) duke it out with a "he said. She said".

Granted that I find Efremof's Borat-style writing sometimes hard to understand, I believe he never squarely addressed himself to Musomba's accusation that Max is in the habit of screwing + videotaping pros and then not paying them. If that accusation is true then that would be very despicable behavior on the part of the icon Efremof (even if they claim to be non-pros and in love with you, they deserve to be rewarded, at a minimum, with what I call "taxi money").

One should ask oneself as well: What does Musomba have to gain by stirring up shit? As long as I don't see how he would benefit, his credibility continues intact.

Luambo
09-01-07, 21:16
Thanks for the encouragement

I just confirmed with the girl that Musumba was the one that reveal the photos and
inform her. I hope this sad story will come to end soon.

The stories that I am planing to buy a boat or I sold my Videos/Photos for money and become a million are ridiculous.

I had a dream to open a small hotel for Mongers like us. Playing MP3 music and share update information. To make this dream come trough I worked for 10 years as IT specialist and saved everything I have now.

I hope I can returned to Kenya in the future and open our small hotel. Its a wonderful place. We do not want any spy within our community. Musumba killed my dream and I am very sorry.I hope you fulfill your dream and never give up for the likes of Musomba your reports and pictures have been amazing. Musomba can start his own board and leave ISG members alone especially MAX.

Carl Schmitt
09-02-07, 09:12
Do you smoke Pot or Datura?

I adviced Max to leave Kenya for his own good. How does that translate into scaring him to come back to Mombasa? Would it not be more prudent to send him an SMS or PM? Why let everyone in this forum know?

Yes I like to make much money and Kenyans are moving up and down to make money anyway they can, however extorting tourists is not my line of work. If it was I would not have met Max alone, or left him so quickly.

My post was meant to be a heads up for Max and others like him.

What movies are you refering to? I have not seen any.

It seems you support Kenya kimbos eh? I have heared of tourists getting robbed / killed in Kenya, maybe they are Kenya kimbos who refused to heed to warnings?

Its interesting how you choose to 'kill' the messenger Perhaps you also come to Kenyas to con the girls?
I really appreciate this report Musomba.

Musomba2006
09-03-07, 08:05
I hope you fulfill your dream and never give up for the likes of Musomba your reports and pictures have been amazing. Musomba can start his own board and leave ISG members alone especially MAX.BTW it you dont like my posts you can always put me in your 'ignore' list.
There is more info here

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/profile.php?do=editlist

Meanwhile IMHO, anybody who fucks/photographs a malaya and does not pay her basically despises her. Forget about all that hype about how 'good' Kenyan girls are. If you dont pay her for services rendered, you actually hate her.

Luambo
09-03-07, 16:02
BTW it you dont like my posts you can always put me in your 'ignore' list.

There is more info here

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/profile.php?do=editlist

Meanwhile IMHO, anybody who fucks/photographs a malaya and does not pay her basically despises her. Forget about all that hype about how 'good' Kenyan girls are. If you dont pay her for services rendered, you actually hate her.I was encouraging you to start your own board since you know alot about Mombasa and are friends with alot of prostitutes.

Are you a pimp by any chance?

Schuerzenjaeger
09-03-07, 18:36
Guys,

If there is one lesson to be learned:

Do not show neither the girls faces nor your own!

This way stories like this wouldn't happen.

Please stick to this rule! We want our hobby to continuue, and we have to keep low profile.

If there are no faces recognizable, then no one can make a story.

And I have to admit that Musomba has a point in saying that if you don't give something back to the girl, you will get a bad reputation in the end.

Max, I hope you will be able to cool things down. Good luck.

Hesekiels
09-03-07, 19:04
If you dont pay her for services rendered, you actually hate her.

Musomba2006:

With all due respect, but tell me, how could that 'service without payment' work in practice - I am a little confused now?! I would rather doubt that any Kenyan girl would accept such a treatment, at least not without inflaming a heavy fight!

My experience after having had paid the agreed amount (!) was - sometimes - rather strange, namely: "if you do not give me more money, I break your glasses"! Brother, honestly spoken, I think a girl would never ever leave the hotel room without money in her pockets! Correct me if I am mistaken!

Anybody with a similar experience?


Cheers - Hesekiels

Musomba2006
09-04-07, 06:57
Musomba2006:

With all due respect, but tell me, how could that 'service without payment' work in practice - I am a little confused now?! I would rather doubt that any Kenyan girl would accept such a treatment, at least not without inflaming a heavy fight!

My experience after having had paid the agreed amount (!) was - sometimes - rather strange, namely: "if you do not give me more money, I break your glasses"! Brother, honestly spoken, I think a girl would never ever leave the hotel room without money in her pockets! Correct me if I am mistaken!

Anybody with a similar experience?


Cheers - HesekielsIts all about charming the girl and making her think you will marry her and/or take her to the USA with you. This can only work if it is the first time both of you have met and the girl has not been poisoned by previous experiences with such lies.

Musomba2006
09-04-07, 07:07
I was encouraging you to start your own board since you know alot about Mombasa and are friends with alot of prostitutes.

Are you a pimp by any chance?I am a semiprofessional pornographer. One of the pillars of my trade is the blind faith many Kenyan girls have for White men. Anything that destroys that faith is bad for business.

BW dont you find it a bit hypocritical to set up a service in kenya in which you expect to be paid for, then go around enjoying services rendered by kenyan malayas without paying for it? These girls support siblings and parents back home through this trade. Their mothers literally wait for them to bring back some money for rent and food.

Musomba2006
09-04-07, 15:07
Another Girl I use to know. One of those Malayas who support their mothers and sibling. Charming girl she was.

MarcoStraight
09-04-07, 18:16
I am a semiprofessional pornographer. One of the pillars of my trade is the blind faith many Kenyan girls have for White men. Anything that destroys that faith is bad for business.

BW dont you find it a bit hypocritical to set up a service in kenya in which you expect to be paid for, then go around enjoying services rendered by kenyan malayas without paying for it? These girls support siblings and parents back home through this trade. Their mothers literally wait for them to bring back some money for rent and food.

I totally agree with you about GIRLS MUST BE PAYED . Just one question...Do u really thing Max didn't give any cent to the girls ? Sorry mate but ,as somebody else said, this is very hard to believe....I was in Kenia 10 years ago , I was younger , healthier and better and no way I could fuck those beauties for free. He probably payed 'em and for an unknown reason he loves to say he don't pay.

Anyway he gave a lot of infos on this forum just like you ,lucky guy and someone else so he has my respect about it. About he doesn't pay...I don't believe.

Musomba2006
09-05-07, 06:42
I totally agree with you about GIRLS MUST BE PAYED . Just one question...Do u really thing Max didn't give any cent to the girls ? Sorry mate but ,as somebody else said, this is very hard to believe....I was in Kenia 10 years ago , I was younger , healthier and better and no way I could fuck those beauties for free. He probably payed 'em and for an unknown reason he loves to say he don't pay.

Anyway he gave a lot of infos on this forum just like you ,lucky guy and someone else so he has my respect about it. About he doesn't pay...I don't believe.I could not believe it either and said as much in previous posts. However he did state that the girls found him handsome and were keen on romance so he was able to avoid paying by much talking and drinks. When I met Max at Bobs he was very angry and rude wth me for suggesting he lied about not paying for sex, claiming he could get any girl he wanted at Bobs for free and that everybody knows that so why do i think i am so different etc etc. This is why i spent only about 5 minutes with him. He agreed the girls wanted money but he went on to add that if he treats them this way and that way he can get it for free since they hope to get married by him (because he is a white guy) and would not like to rock th boat etc etc.

Also one of the girls who knows him (and who is the subject of many posts so far) confided with her friend (my girlfriend) that she did not get any money from max even after the photos and sex.

Musomba2006
09-05-07, 13:51
Here is a photo from the video that was deleted by Jackson because it was hosted at www.rapidshare.com. The girl is now married with one kid. It was taken last year.

She was OK with photographs so long as sex was not involved. I certainly did not mind paying just to videotape her beautiful naked body.

Sambo2
09-06-07, 18:30
I had a week to think about our meeting and I realize that I was wrong. Since I don't have yet the privileges to PM him directly I want to apologies for my lack of politeness or even being rude that night.

In fact, I was excited to demonstrate to him my techniques, change ideas and also to ask if his girlfriend feel better.

Sometimes bad start can lead to a great things. I have visit Zambia and I am in my way to Mozambique now. I will post soon for Zambia and latter for Mozambique. I have some amazing photos to show you guys.

Again, I hope that Mr-Musomba will be kind to accept my truly apologies.

Max

Musomba2006
09-07-07, 10:19
I had a week to think about our meeting and I realize that I was wrong. Since I don't have yet the privileges to PM him directly I want to apologies for my lack of politeness or even being rude that night.

In fact, I was excited to demonstrate to him my techniques, change ideas and also to ask if his girlfriend feel better.

Sometimes bad start can lead to a great things. I have visit Zambia and I am in my way to Mozambique now. I will post soon for Zambia and latter for Mozambique. I have some amazing photos to show you guys.

Again, I hope that Mr-Musomba will be kind to accept my truly apologies.

MaxApologies accepted.

The Lucky Guy
09-07-07, 18:52
I had a week to think about our meeting and I realize that I was wrong. Since I don't have yet the privileges to PM him directly I want to apologies for my lack of politeness or even being rude that night.

In fact, I was excited to demonstrate to him my techniques, change ideas and also to ask if his girlfriend feel better.

Sometimes bad start can lead to a great things. I have visit Zambia and I am in my way to Mozambique now. I will post soon for Zambia and latter for Mozambique. I have some amazing photos to show you guys.

Again, I hope that Mr-Musomba will be kind to accept my truly apologies.

MaxIt's always great to see when a conflict is solved by someone saying "OK! My mistake. I was wrong." Credit to you Max!

(HAVE you really changed your user-id? I hope Max=xxx will come with a protest if Max=Sambo2 isn't Max=xxx!)

Musomba2006
09-10-07, 16:30
When she was in her early teens she was a riot. Sex sex and more sex for free with boys in the neibobourhood. This was taken when she was 19 and a bit more stable. PM me if you want to know more about her.

Musomba2006
09-12-07, 07:00
I'll be arriving in Mombasa in just under a week, and was wondering if anyone could suggest a nice place where I can watch the rugby matches, but that still has young ladies around or nearby at least?

2 days ago, here in China, I was drinking in a bar and got chatting with a seaman from Poland who had visited Mombasa a few years back. He talked to me of Casablanca, but also of some other bar with, he claimed, a mega TV screen where EPL & the like is shown, but with lots of lasses on hand. He said the ladies would sit outside while a game was on, then flock back inside to join the fellas once the final whistle was blown. Sounds good to me, but he couldn't remember the name of the place.Sounds like the 'big tree' restaurant. Its along the Jomo kenyata public beach at the north coast.

Coopa
09-14-07, 13:11
When she was in her early teens she was a riot. Sex sex and more sex for free with boys in the neibobourhood. This was taken when she was 19 and a bit more stable. PM me if you want to know more about her.Ok, I'll bite: What's her story now?

Virus Kay
09-14-07, 15:08
One word stands out right Max is the king.

I mean what Musomba brings here claiming to be sweet and sexy men it sucks.

Those are girls from the bush chief compare to great wonem Max has shown ass damn fucking Josphine"Max cant get her off my mind"

So Guys Max vs MUsomba damn hell no I can do better than Musomba if I want to but max thats makes you the KING

No More

Musomba2006
09-15-07, 06:30
One word stands out right Max is the king.

I mean what Musomba brings here claiming to be sweet and sexy men it sucks.

Those are girls from the bush chief compare to great wonem Max has shown ass damn fucking Josphine"Max cant get her off my mind"

So Guys Max vs MUsomba damn hell no I can do better than Musomba if I want to but max thats makes you the KING

No MoreI hope you post some photos soon. I do hope they will be better than mine because this will make the forum much more interesting for everybody.

Musomba2006
09-15-07, 11:02
Hey was up all yah nice to have a place to release all you ecitiment

Hey I will be unleashing my pics of some sexy and women with class from nairobi not *****s realy women working in banks as senior staff with cute ass and tits.

But wonna have a favour pliz get me some decent photos for Jose and pliz hola me her number if you can because men I'm going there to kenya and I want to hit that kitty guys

So pliz gentle men sought a dude out for once.I have not seen the pictures you promised. What happened? Did they allow you to photograph them? Did they really agree to go with you? Did you really travel to Nairobi?

Musomba2006
09-15-07, 11:20
Ok, I'll bite: What's her story now?Made two movies about her. Last time I heared she opened up a hair dressing salon in mombasa.

Musomba2006
09-15-07, 11:29
I was visit Mombasa.--Nairobi from 28/8 till 12/9. Pay always 1500/night. Girls around big tree mombassa go FULL night for 500s. But gentelmans. Pay not less than 1000s. The girl hef no money end try to survivel. In Nairobi madhouse. One girls ask my 15000s. Was thinking that I am first time in Kenya. But less than 2000s is difficult. Al info wath you need ask my. I was visit Kenya 10 thimes in 20 months. If you want holiday girlfriend ask my with I'm.500 for the whole night would be a very desperate woman. Most likley unattractive (at least in my opinion). If ever I was to pay for sex or a good time, I would tend to look out for the attractive ones (I. E dress well, nice figures etc etc). Generally 2000/= more or less guarantees things will go smoothly with the kind of girls I like.

Did I tell you that you can get sex for 50/= a pop? However I would never take up the offer even if it was given free.

Musomba2006
09-16-07, 08:13
One lokal man schow my place with name MILENIUM pub, daer where girls for 200s schort time (room 350s). Also Hi was going over second hand market congowea. After this market Hi schow my lokal cafe where Hi contakt girls with oner from cafe (prices again for 200s) Than 100meter from highway malindi road (in babalolo) Daer 3 girls for house end Hi tell my also 200s for schotthime. But this lokal man contakt lot of persons for this sexdaels end I not trust situation end I laeve him. I hef lot of telefon nr from girls for 1000s /night. I can trust this girls (old friends) Better to pay more end not risk my life. One thime thoke 2 girls out of casablanca end pay 500s extra for reseption. But one girl aktif end the no2 only look. Was sending one away with 1500s. One stay all night end giving 20 euro. It was my last day, normal I pay less. My normal tarif is 1500s/night.Just to assist an otherwise good effort from willyboy.

congowea = Kongowea. Its a market for second hand clothes, potatoes and other farm products.

babalolo=bombolulu. Its a spawling swahili estate situated along the mombasa malindi road about 1km after the nyali bridge.

Musomba2006
09-16-07, 09:11
Is it getting colder in europe? OK here is something to warm you up.

She was a kitten. Loved posing for camera and a good fuck. Well worth the 2000/= spent on her.

Musomba2006
09-16-07, 09:28
Is it getting colder in europe? OK here is something to warm you up.

She was a kitten. Loved posing for camera and a good fuck. Well worth the 2000/= spent on her.OOOps, pressed the wrong button again.

Musomba2006
09-16-07, 12:47
Here is a short version of a movie i made of lilian before she opened up her salon. She had a great butt and nice tits.

http://www.ezziarts.com/asunta.wmv

Musomba2006
09-18-07, 14:30
Hi Donnachaa,

I'm planning to go to Mombasa beginning of October for 2 weeks ( 6th october to 20th october not fixed amready).

We could meet there if you are still there during this period of time?

I try to find an appartement to rent, but it's not really easy ... Do you have any information about the best place to rent an appartement : is Nialy a good choice?

And if you have a website with ads to rent an appartement it would be nice!

Hope to hear from you soon!

Bye

MarcoHi,

Try here

http://www.nyumbanet.co.ke/default.asp

Musomba2006
09-20-07, 08:37
Malayas usually have more than one european boyfriend so to lose one because of a photograph which she got paid for is not likely to make her attack the photographer who paid her just like any other of her clients. If Max paid the malayas he got service from he would not have got into the problems he found himself in.

If you pay to photograph a malaya, you have the right to do whatever you want with the images. It does not matter wether you are a tourist or a local. The malaya will not give you problems because you will be percieved as a source of income. Next time she is broke, she will want you to photograph her again. It has happened to me many times already.

I think some people on this board 'love' africa because it's percieved the girls can be fucked for free and they will love you all the same because you are white. I guess it's a nostalgia for the early days of America when Black women were for free to any white guy. However, unlike their counterparts in 17th and 18th century America, Black girl in Kenya have the freedom to treat you like shit if you mistreat them and there's nothing you will be able to do about it. If you are that kind of mongerer then Kenya can become a dangerous place for you. They will love you in the begining until you show them how rubbish you are.

Gladiator
09-20-07, 20:42
Malayas usually have more than one european boyfriend so to lose one because of a photograph which she got paid for is not likely to make her attack the photographer who paid her just like any other of her clients. If Max paid the malayas he got service from he would not have got into the problems he found himself in.

If you pay to photograph a malaya, you have the right to do whatever you want with the images. It does not matter wether you are a tourist or a local. The malaya will not give you problems because you will be percieved as a source of income. Next time she is broke, she will want you to photograph her again. It has happened to me many times already.

I think some people on this board 'love' africa because it's percieved the girls can be fucked for free and they will love you all the same because you are white. I guess it's a nostalgia for the early days of America when Black women were for free to any white guy. However, unlike their counterparts in 17th and 18th century America, Black girl in Kenya have the freedom to treat you like shit if you mistreat them and there's nothing you will be able to do about it. If you are that kind of mongerer then Kenya can become a dangerous place for you. They will love you in the begining until you show them how rubbish you are.

Musomba,

Instead of wasting bandwidth harping on about Max pay habits, why don’t you post some actual info on mongering in Kenya?

After all, that is what this thread is about, in case you haven’t noticed yet. Most (or probably all) guys who read this thread do so to get info on mongering in Kenya, not to read your boring ramblings on whether or not some guy should have paid the girls, which is entirely his own business and not ours.

Please post some info on mongering for a change, if you have any.

Footproof
09-20-07, 22:16
Musomba,Please post some info on mongering for a change, if you have any.Long ago I could come here and see some women now all I get is more ramblings and substandard women.

Your use of the word malayas is rather offensive and you're not doing these women any justice.

Please go away!

Musomba2006
09-21-07, 06:28
Musomba,

Instead of wasting bandwidth harping on about Max pay habits, why don’t you post some actual info on mongering in Kenya?

After all, that is what this thread is about, in case you haven’t noticed yet. Most (or probably all) guys who read this thread do so to get info on mongering in Kenya, not to read your boring ramblings on whether or not some guy should have paid the girls, which is entirely his own business and not ours.

Please post some info on mongering for a change, if you have any.I reiterate, Kenya can be a dangerous place for mongerers who dont pay. If this is not information to you then ignore it. Put me on your ignore list. BTW I have recieved very encouraging PM's from other people.

Musomba2006
09-21-07, 07:08
Long ago I could come here and see some women now all I get is more ramblings and substandard women.

Your use of the word malayas is rather offensive and you're not doing these women any justice.

Please go away!BTW Malaya is swahili equivalent of mongerer.

Musomba2006
09-21-07, 07:23
Musomba,

Most (or probably all) guys who read this thread do so to get info on mongering in Kenya.Most people come here to download pictures. Compare the number of views of photos (usually several hundread) and the number of people who post specifically asking for information (probably no more than 10?). Downloads for my pictures has been as high as 2000 or more. Downloads for my video from Ezziarts is around 600 at the time of writing. If you dont like my posts, just ignore them because many other people actually enjoy them.

Musomba2006
09-21-07, 10:41
Becareful my friends be very careful. It seems the world is changing around us, imagine how bad it must be being arrested and spending time in one of the local jails! I think photos of nudity and certainly porn is illeagal in most African countries.

Perhaps Jackson could post a "heads up" on countries that have caused concern to our members.There is a law against selling pornography in Kenya. However it's not strictly enforced. Porn is sold openly by newspaper vendors in the form of 'seen' and 'passion' magazines (to name but two). Pornographic VCD's and DVD's are available from kiosks in Mombasa selling music and movie cd's for around 200 (VCD) to 300 (DVD). Police have been known to buy from these very people. There are adverts in the nation and standard newspapers for 'adult cd's and dvd's' (200 for VCD, 500 for DVD). A number of Video kiosks around Mombasa screen pornographic movies on certain days starting about 9.00pm. You can watch 2 hours of porn for 20/= after all the mainstream movies have been shown.

I once got stopped by police who became suspicious of my luggage. I was carrying a pornographic VCD which i just bought. He took the VCD and 500/= then let me go.
In all the years spent in kenya I have heared only of one case where anybody got charged for pornography. Somebody sued the 'seen' magazine. Nobody got jailed and the magazine is still sold in the streets but this time sealed in plastic.
BTW photographing your girlfriend in the nude or private use is not illegal.

Musomba2006
09-21-07, 14:35
Once appeared in the news, a story of a local African mongerer who, in the morning, refused to pay the malaya. She pretended not to be hurt and offered to give him a blow job. He accepted. She bit his dick off. She was sent to jail but set free after 3 months. The poor guy could not monger anymore.

Musomba2006
09-23-07, 08:08
Noddy,

Added a link in reports of distinction. Well done.

Musomba2006
09-23-07, 09:50
I have primarily been a voyeur on these boards for a few years. I was in Kenya back in March and tried Florida 2000, AKA F2 for a couple of nights. It is just like any major club-girl stable, with its range of tired old broads and fresh faces. Easy to pick someone up, but wisest to do a little conversation in the club first to get a feel for the attitude. Prices are as reported about 1000 times on this forum, but it's not really about "price" per se, unless you get a real pro, which is a foolish way to go in F2.

Anyway, I'll be back for a week in Oct. I do prefer the rougher sorts of places, like cheap hotels or compounds where the cheaper girls stay. Straight up brothels, etc. Does anyone know of these kinds of places in Nairobi?Try Koinange street.

Musomba2006
09-23-07, 10:03
Got news from my Malaya friends that Casurina in Mtwapa was raided early this week by the Mombasa Municipal Council in conjunction with police and they rounded up many malayas. They have been doing this every now and then in various nightclubs and malaya places within Mombasa town and its environs ever since the world athletics event took place in Mombasa.

Its interesting that mongering/prostitution is actually illegal in Kenya but the local economy trives on it. Mtwapa is actually founded on it so almost any girl is available because it is home to many prostitutes from around Kenya who come to target the tourism market.

Another malaya place is the 'red light' area of Bamburi estate, and Kibokoni. It is said one can get all manner of flesh in Kibokoni, including fat mamas who sell for 50/= a shot.

Musomba2006
09-23-07, 10:26
Belgian weekly "Knack" published a good background article called "Philippe Servaty´s victims" (in Dutch). If there is interest here, I can do a quick translation.

I never seek to judge anyone on this site. We all know where we are. But I believe that with Efremof, as with Belguel, the key is: discretion.I have found on here:

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/66

Member #4643
09-24-07, 04:07
I have found on here:

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/66


I have found on here:

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/66

With all due respect, Efremof is not nearly guilty of he same sins as Philippe Servaty. Its absurd to compare the two men!

Kenya is not a radical Muslim state, and the girls are not likely to be committing suicide because Efremof posted their photos on the internet. Their families are not likely to arrange a fatw? to kill him. As far as we know, he did not indiscriminately offer his ladies marriage just to get them to pose while they had sex together. And, I am quite certain he never ever said or did anything degrading to his ladies, as it was obvious he adored them. No pissing on them, no making fun of them, no whips and leashes, etc.

Indeed, I am certain that I am not alone in thinking that Efremof was truly in love with one of his last girls. I worried that this was going to cause him serious pain. When he announced plans to move to Kenya and open up a hotel, I was happy for him. His last girl was seriously gorgeous, and any of us might have fallen for her! And, as a “non-pro specialist”, I am certain he spent many times more money on his non pro girlfriends than the 2000 most guys spend on Kenyan pros they meet in Nairobi ( ALL of my non-pros are more expensive than the hookers).

Servaty was just interested in fucking and pissing on girls. He didn't care if they were young and pretty or old and spent. He got pleasure out of degrading them while he had sex, and was especially amused if they were wearing religious items. Unfortunately, the girls were not really part of the bondage crowd, but were straight girls who were looking for love and marriage. Their public exposure was certain to bring them additional shame and humiliation, and he knew this because he lived in Morocco! That is why he is an exploitative pig.

Efremof was by far the most interesting guy on the Kenyan ISG. I think this entire "scandal" is very different from the Servaty scandal and comparisons make me wince. Efremof was an honest mongerer who thought it reasonable to carry out his relationships with his girls like a lover, and not like a guy who had picked up a prostitute. It seemed to me that he was trying to live a fantasy in Kenya.

I am sorry Efremof was chased away from the board. His contributions were beautiful. I think those responsible for this debacle should apologize to all of us. This entire incident could have been handled quietly, and Efremof could have made whatever amends were necessary to the girls privately (assuming the girls wanted such an apologia).

Musomba2006
09-24-07, 07:48
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Musomba2006
09-24-07, 08:22
Something I find quite strange is the categorization of girls and pro's and non pro's.
Presumabley pro is short for professional, meaning they make a living selling sex services. So if the girl sleeps around for money then she is a pro ( or semi pro). Most are unemployed some with children to look after so they sleep around out of necessity due to their poverty or love for money and sex.

Most girls that sex tourists find in the clubs are looking for money. Some may have jobs already but since the pay is so little they supplement by becoming a malaya by night. This makes her a pro (or semi pro?). Some of them can earn as much as 30,000/= a night from their clients who can be ambassadors, diplomats and high flying businessmen.

IMHO Non pros generally dont make themselves easily available to anybody. They are not loose women They dont sleep around. They have higher moral values than the malayas that easily sleep with people for their money. In fact Non pros behave pretty much like the westerners that many mogerers run away from when they come to Kenya.

AfAsia
09-24-07, 10:24
Jackson,

The Kenya thread has become unwieldy with now more than 2000 posts and I would hope a split-up makes sense to you and most of the users .

I agree! Nairobi and Mombasa require separate threads. How about it Jackson?

Appreciations for the ROD, Musomba2006

Regarding the raid on Casaurina, this appears to be a regular occurrence. My last visit there, six months back, we just got in to the club and the police subsequently arrived and shut the place, thus we left. Time prior to this, a roadblock just outside the club entrance, a cop tried his utmost to ruin our evening, gave the cretin 200kes to release us. Don`t bother going up that way anymore.

Musomba2006
09-24-07, 11:39
When I first met my girlfriend at Casurina, she told me she does 'kazi ya nyumbani' I. E she is a house maid. She did not drink or smoke, neither did she negotiate anything with me upfront. She claimed her room mate had travelled upcountry so she was lonely and came to Casurina to look for some company.

I took her to sweet hearts lodge for the night and in the morning gave her 2000/=. She did not ask for money at any time, I had to wake her up to pay her. Since she had such a nice butt (and I am a butt man. I can tolerate flattish tits so long as the but is nice and tight) I gave her the spare mobile phone I was carrying specially for the girl who impresses me. Now I could call her for another session.

Days went by, I came to know where she lives and met her room mate. She introduced her as her sister (same father different mother) She and her room mate were both fluent in kikuyu so I had no reason to doubt they were sisters. Later on he room mate confided in me that they were not sisters but friends living together to help pay the rent. I also learned that my girlfriend was not a kikuyu but a chonyi (one of the mjikenda tribes) who used to work as a maid for a kikuyu malaya since she was 10 years old. As time went on I learned that she use to do strip tease dancing at cheers and was very popular malaya with the white guys due to her slim countenances and great butt. Now a days she makes no efforts to hide her love for money. She clams to love money more than she loves herself. She specialised only with white guys because they had more money that black guys and up to now wonders how I managed to get her (money is my main secret).

So, my first impression would have classed her as 'non pro', however after several months I learn she was actually a pro.

So IMHO there is no such thing as a non pro who will go to clubs to get laid. There are enough Black Africans out there who can do a good job without paying the girl anything (just look at the number of old foreign women walking around with young black studs).

BTW. Don't get me wrong. When I call a girl 'malaya' its not an insult, just a recognition that here is the kind of girl who can make me happy. Ever since I met her there has been little motivation to look for others.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

LustyHombre
09-24-07, 18:37
So, my first impression would have classed her as 'non pro', however after several months I learn she was actually a pro.

So IMHO there is no such thing as a non pro who will go to clubs to get laid. There are enough Black Africans out there who can do a good job without paying the girl anything (just look at the number of old foreign women walking around with young black studs).I beg to differ, inspite of my short tenure in the local "market":

So far, I have met maybe 20 different girls in the almost 3 months I've been here. It’s amazing what all comes out during post-coital conversations (surprising, how smart many of these girls are! ):

1) There doesn’t seem to be a social stigma attached to girls with frequently changing sex partners (ergo: there is no distinction made between amateurs and pros)

2) Accepting gifts (monetary or in kind) after sex doesn’t make you a *****

3) Human curiosity and "The grass is greener on the other side" syndrome is responsible for many girls’ INITIAL preference for white guys, and vice versa.

4) The fact that the visiting muzungu seems to have unlimited spending money maintains that preference

5) The hope to one day find "Mr Right" and live on a bed of roses in Sweden henceforth, keeps them going back to Cheers and Tembo every day.

Quite simple, isn’t it?

Furthermore, the lack of economically attractive alternative employment doesn’t leave them much of a choice in the first place.

Hermescali
09-25-07, 09:03
IMHO Non pros generally dont make themselves easily available to anybody. They are not loose women They dont sleep around. They have higher moral values than the malayas that easily sleep with people for their money. In fact Non pros behave pretty much like the westerners that many mogerers run away from when they come to Kenya.Maybe you just describe the African reality. I don´t care anyways. But don´t tell me that I am running away from Western women when I come to Kenya (or any other country I go too). I like to travel, I like to meet local girls when I travel, but I don´t have to run away from western women.

And when I read here about some of the problems mongers have in many countries, I jsut ask myself whom I should run away from.