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OldAsiaHand
03-10-06, 06:00
Shing Taikoo,

There are no MPs in the alleys. And, if you did not find all the BBS in the back alleys, you were not in the right place.

The MPs are on the normal streets running both parallel and perpindicular to the back side of Jusco. I reckon there are at least 7-8 around the one block. I am talking about the block that is on the left side of the crosswalk after you cross the road behind Jusco.

I am glad to hear you had a good HJ, however, for future reference a 200-250 RMB tip usually gets you FS in most of the MPs in the area, but some places can be hit or miss for availabilty of FS.

Just my POV.

OAH





Thanks to members here for their suggestions.

I was in Shenzhen on 4th March. As guided, I took the subway to Kexe. And walked upto Jusco. I was lost a bit there as the reports here mentioned that back alleys. After prowling around for some time went under the arch to see the opening for the back side of the Jusco complex. Got down from the steps, crossed the road and bang infront there was a Massage Parlour. The time was around 11. 30 am. Perhaps I was one of the first customers. Language was an absolute problem. Had to communicate with the help of a calculator. Papasan quoted Y88 for two hours. Took a petite girl. Looks-8, boobs - 7 (around or less than 32a), GFE - 9.

It was a wonderful experience. Asked her to do a handjob and got out after nearly 1 and a half hour. Even today I remember the sweet experience. The girl asked Y200 but bargained for Y70 and ultimately felt happy to give her Y100.

A question though - it was suggested that there are number of massage parlours. Actually I prowled around the back alleys. Couldn't find any. May be I was too early?

Hoeman
03-10-06, 06:32
See scan of business card if it’s the same lady. Sorry I can't read much Chinese. IF SOMEONE CAN TRANSLATE the Chinese in the back it would be nice. Poor Service, DO NOT USE.....

The words on the backof the biz card is pronounced "Lan Niao Xiu Xian Zhong Xin" in Mandarin. It translates as "Blue Bird Relaxation Centre".

Goderos
03-10-06, 08:26
Csun213,

Yes in my experience Hilton is very girl friendly at all times that I have tried (pre 2 am).

They have a big security guard in front and he looks in your eyes everytime but if you look back etc. No questions asked. Atleast for me.

Also I never paid him ever.

The street east from hilton has many opportunities.

But watch out for trannies etc.

Have fun

trannies? really. i better grab the next train and go see this. :-) .
csun very experience, i m sure he can tell the diff... i hope.

Weelock
03-10-06, 21:14
The words on the backof the biz card is pronounced "Lan Niao Xiu Xian Zhong Xin" in Mandarin. It translates as "Blue Bird Relaxation Centre".

Thanks Hoeman,

What's on the back has NOTHING to doing with the mamasan's business Card. Please ignore the writing of "Bad Service" on the cards. I was referring "Bad Service" to the mamasan. I have edited the other post.

It sounds like someone's recommendation for a sauna. I must have forgotten about it. Hope it's still open after the RAID before Chinese New Year. Might try it the next time I'm in town. Do anyone know anything about this place?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=38675

Sammon
03-11-06, 06:53
KTV otherwise known as kick your tush every vich way need not be dificult to handle. Agreed these are high priced gouging the tourist thing, though the girls tend to be younger and prettier.

1. When you enter KTV there are two places to sit. One is like a regular bar and the other one is a room filled with many gadgets for singing etc.
If you take the room you are going to be a big spender because it comes with lot of hidden charges.
2. If you are a group who like singing take the room . If you are single looking for company stay at the bar. You can pretty much pick whatever girls there are. All you need to do is to be nice to mamasan. Remember there are many mamasans. Negotiate the price usually around 500 rmb for the whole night.
3. If you prefer a room, there are many things to watch out for. Many girls will try to crash your party . All you have to do is tell mamasan that you only want the girl you selected to stay with you. Next they will try to force you to drink a lot. Just go slow.They will bring foods completely unsolicited for which you will pay dearly.
4. Check the bill very carefully when you pay. They are experts in padding the bill. Generall they will expect you to pay 200 rmb to the girl if you dont want to take her home. I you do you don't have to pay that.

TangZhen
03-14-06, 10:03
I have had a chance to test the current status of the two major areas, ShaZhui and Jusco. Both are currently up and running with no major problems in either area. Again I think Jusco girls have been around longer and are a bit more professional about it, while ShaZhui girls tend to be fresher to it but less skilled.

I had good times at both. Jusco girl was a who I have been with numerous times. Great shape and nice attitude, although her less than convincing 'ooooh' and 'aaaah' early in the encounters used to throw me off a bit, until I came to the conculsion that it helps her get in the mood. I noticed that at first her 'ooooh's seemed quite fake, but by about 10 minutes into it, they were far more convincing and by the time we were concluding (about 20 minutes) you could be quite sure they were real.

ShaZhui girl (xiao Yuen) was short but with very large rack. She was from Hubei, which would normally be a red flag for OAH, but not an issue for me. Dropped a bit of Hubeiese on her, to get her laughing. She had a real unusual laugh, which would be impossible to describe. She was more open to being fingered than most, and she was open to facing the mirror on the wall while I sat behind her and fingered her (a bit pulled a mussle in my arm though). Spent most of the time with her on top facing away from me. I have been using less positions unless I have unlimited time as I find girls respond better to continious action in shorter time periods.

Lex Moon
03-14-06, 21:55
I have had a chance to test the current status of the two major areas, ShaZhui and Jusco. Both are currently up and running with no major problems in either area. Again I think Jusco girls have been around longer and are a bit more professional about it, while ShaZhui girls tend to be fresher to it but less skilled.Where is Shazhui? Is it easy to get there from Shang?

Thanks

Tiger 888
03-15-06, 03:28
The name is Sha Tsui (mandarin: 沙咀 sha1 jui3) and there have been many reports about it.

Bnlee2
03-15-06, 05:22
sha tsui is cheap and affordable paradise. you got to check it out.

TangZhen
03-15-06, 05:27
Tiger: Thanks for covering that one. I get a lot of PMs with "where is Jusco?" But actually I think you have the wrong second character. I believe it is 'zui' 嘴. I think we need a Shenzhen FAQ.

I also agree with Bnlee but would generally recommend starting at Jusco because ShaZui sometimes the BaoAn and GongAn are directed to clear out non-chinese, and if you dont know how to handle that situation, it could be trouble. It is a good idea to keep a low profile in Shazui for foreign guys. In Jusco, it is less of an issue, also it is a bit cleaner there.


The name is Sha Tsui (mandarin: 沙咀 sha1 jui3) and there have been many reports about it.

Bnlee2
03-15-06, 05:32
sha tsui is cheap and affordable paradise. you got to check it out.

Goderos
03-15-06, 10:15
was just in shenzen all is well and good. checked out a cun i has posted about before, it was a bigger area than i had previously thpught.
also tried out a sauna at tsa tsui. chose pne of the nicest one around there. also because i saw the girls from this place in the side doors, and they looked hot. the price for the sauna is between 58-168 for two hour massages.

Tiger 888
03-15-06, 11:03
I am not 100% sure about it, but I still think it is 沙咀村. Did a google search on that and found some reports about girls and entertainment there. But I am not Chinese and could still be wrong. There is also a 沙嘴路. Anyone local out there who can confirm which one is the one?
By the way, if someone experienced would like join for a visit in the next days, I would love to come over. Just PM me.

Rice_guy
03-15-06, 19:22
I am not 100% sure about it, but I still think it is 沙咀村. Did a google search on that and found some reports about girls and entertainment there. But I am not Chinese and could still be wrong. There is also a 沙嘴路. Anyone local out there who can confirm which one is the one?

By the way, if someone experienced would like join for a visit in the next days, I would love to come over. Just PM me.沙嘴 is the chinese name for the paradise village. You may find hotties in the side streets for 150rmb short time. The environment is a lot better than typical bbs.

Diver69
03-19-06, 18:00
Gents,

If I may add my 2 cents:

咀 is simply the simplified form of 嘴. In China, they use Simplified Chinese and elsewhere (HK and Taiwan) they use the Traditional form. They both mean the same thing - Mouth. Sha Tsui means literally "Sand Mouth".

I think it's safer to go with 咀 in China as I doubt many people will recognize the Traditional version of the same word.

Hope this helps.

Diver69


Tiger: Thanks for covering that one. I get a lot of PMs with "where is Jusco?" But actually I think you have the wrong second character. I believe it is 'zui' 嘴. I think we need a Shenzhen FAQ.

I also agree with Bnlee but would generally recommend starting at Jusco because ShaZui sometimes the BaoAn and GongAn are directed to clear out non-chinese, and if you dont know how to handle that situation, it could be trouble. It is a good idea to keep a low profile in Shazui for foreign guys. In Jusco, it is less of an issue, also it is a bit cleaner there.

A Nonymous
03-19-06, 18:30
Gents,

? is simply the simplified form of ?

Diver69Actually ? is the simplified form of ?. ? is ju3, meaning 'chew'.

Bill Lee
03-19-06, 23:29
It's cheek. Othewise, mouth is the box character?

But then again, I don't know my Chinese that well.

Bill


Gents,

If I may add my 2 cents:

咀 is simply the simplified form of 嘴. In China, they use Simplified Chinese and elsewhere (HK and Taiwan) they use the Traditional form. They both mean the same thing - Mouth. Sha Tsui means literally "Sand Mouth".

I think it's safer to go with 咀 in China as I doubt many people will recognize the Traditional version of the same word.

Hope this helps.

Diver69

A Nonymous
03-20-06, 03:09
Aiya. Don't know why the characters didn't come out, as they were pasted from Diver69's post.

The zui (mouth) character he gives *is* the simplified form. The other character is not the simplified form of zui, but is pronounced ju3, and means 'chew'.

I'll try again with the characters, just for good measure:

? is simplified 'mouth' pronounced zui3
? is 'chew' pronounced ju3

Bob Builder
03-20-06, 04:24
Someone pleez take a picture of the village entrance or sign on the minibus. It really is not that hard a place to get to. There are buses from the Huangguang border.

Goderos
03-20-06, 05:35
Someone pleez take a picture of the village entrance or sign on the minibus. It really is not that hard a place to get to. There are buses from the Huangguang border.
Almost all cabbies know Sha Tsui.

Goderos
03-20-06, 05:41
Almost all cabbies know Sha Tsui.

They all know how to take you there. There are thousands of HK visitors to Sha Tui. But if you act like you dont know what you are talking about, enjoy the extra long cab ride there. :-D

Bill Lee
03-20-06, 06:59
Let me get my passport.... I'll be right back.

There. The flight was fairly short. Here's the pic of the gate.

Now, back to the states by Monday for work.

Anything else I can do for you Bob?

Bill


Someone pleez take a picture of the village entrance or sign on the minibus. It really is not that hard a place to get to. There are buses from the Huangguang border.

Wikki
03-20-06, 11:03
Hi Gents,

I will be staying in the Pavilion hotel next week and am looking for some fun. Will be my first time visiting Shenzhen. Any recommendations in or around the hotel?
Is the Sha Tsui area very far for the hotel location? Should I take a cab when heading there?

Thanks for you help.

Wikki

Bob Builder
03-20-06, 16:57
Thanks for the picture, Bill. Got any pictures of Ha Sha entrance as well before someone else asks.

Now if newbies RTFF or print Bill's photo, the Shenzhen forum will not become a freaking language lesson.

If your language skills are shit, you will be better off showing the photo of the village gate with the name. Like Goderos said just about every taxi driver in Shenzhen knows where it is as I think it is about the 3rd most popular destination behind Lo Wu and Huangguang border crossings.

Bill Lee
03-20-06, 18:06
I better not ask where and what Ha Sha is or someone will tell old Bill here to RTFF.

Is that the adjacent village to ST?

Best to you all.
Bill


Thanks for the picture, Bill. Got any pictures of Ha Sha entrance as well before someone else asks.

Now if newbies RTFF or print Bill's photo, the Shenzhen forum will not become a freaking language lesson.

If your language skills are shit, you will be better off showing the photo of the village gate with the name. Like Goderos said just about every taxi driver in Shenzhen knows where it is as I think it is about the 3rd most popular destination behind Lo Wu and Huangguang border crossings.

Tequila Kid
03-20-06, 19:45
Wikki,
Jusco is not far from the Pavilion, not more than 3Km away. Action is found behind Jusco. Check the board for directions and Jusco's chinese name.
TK

Pcbasia
03-20-06, 22:41
Hi,all friends,

I am Chinese and I am living in Shanghai. I would like to make friends with you and I would like to share more information about shanghai and china with you. I will show your charming shanghai life. If you have chance to come to Shanghai.

Weelock
03-20-06, 23:33
I better not ask where and what Ha Sha is or someone will tell old Bill here to RTFF.

Is that the adjacent village to ST?

Best to you all.
Bill

Hi Mr. Bill and anyone else,

It’s OK for asking, since you ( Bill ) contribute to the forum. Don’t worry about. I have a dumb question myself about the different type sauna massages.They usually list about 4-6 basic types.

To add to the confusion, I believe Sha Tsui and Sha Zui are the same. One's is in Mandarin and the other is Cantonese. Not sure which is which. Then Xia Sha and Ha Sha are also the same or called, "Lower Sand". Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

There are three areas of Sha Tsui: Sha Zui, Xia Sha and Shang Sha. The other areas are WEST of Sha Tsui. From your picture of the Sha Tsui’s gate, you have to face the opposite direction and walk about 10-15 mins. I have been to all three areas. It’s mostly small sauna, KTVs and a few BBS in the other areas. Some parts, it looks more like a tourist area with newer shops for regular shopping.

Warning I just read a few days ago on another site (HK), that LE is still very active around Sha Tsui. The reports were from two different sources on the other site. Don't know how trust worthly is the information since I normally don't surf the web there. On the other hand, the information posted recently from ISG are saying it's back to normal?

See this link for more info for newbies. It was taken from another site called ********. I believe I mentioned this site to you before.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=368194&postcount=2279

Fast Eddie 48
03-21-06, 08:11
Hi Mr. Bill and anyone else,

It’s OK for asking, since you ( Bill ) contribute to the forum. Don’t worry about. I have a dumb question myself about the different type sauna massages.They usually list about 4-6 basic types.

To add to the confusion, I believe Sha Tsui and Sha Zui are the same. One's is in Mandarin and the other is Cantonese. Not sure which is which. Then Xia Sha and Ha Sha are the same or called, "Lower Sand". Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

There are three areas of Sha Tsui: Sha Zui, Xia Sha and Shang Sha. The other areas are west of of Sha Tsui. From your picture of the Sha Tsui’s gate, you have to face the opposite direction and walk about 10-15 mins. I have been to all three areas. It’s mostly small sauna, KTVs and a few BBS in the other areas. Some parts, it looks more like a tourist area with newer shops for regular shopping.

Warning I just read a few days ago on another site (HK), that LE is still very active around Sha Tsui. The reports were from two different sources on the other site. Don't know how trust worthly is the information since I normally don't surf the web there. On the other hand, the information posted recently from ISG are saying it's back to normal?

See this link for more info for newbies. It was taken from another site called ********. I believe I mentioned this site to you before.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=368194&postcount=2279


to weelock

I was in sha tsui last night not as many girl as was 3 month ago but I did
find a nice one 175 m almost as tall as me from hubei coming out of a ktv.

ha sha "lower sand " sha sha " upper sand " and sha tsui are 3 different area
or village all walking distance of each other but most bbs are in sha tsui and
the other area have mainly sauna and ktv some have fs ,I am heading to changping today will report later.

fast eddie 48

Wikki
03-21-06, 11:47
Wikki,

Jusco is not far from the Pavilion, not more than 3Km away. Action is found behind Jusco. Check the board for directions and Jusco's chinese name.

TKThanks a lot for the tip. Have checked the board but couln not find the chinese letters to print them out and show to the cab driver. Any help?

Are there BBS frontstore? Any special recommendations there? Or shall I just check the girls and negotiate with the mamasan about it? Can I expect GFE there?

PS: Anybody there who wants to join next week Sunday, Tuesday or Wednesday?

Wikki

Moody
03-22-06, 00:54
Thanks a lot for the tip. Have checked the board but couln not find the chinese letters to print them out and show to the cab driver. Any help?

Are there BBS frontstore? Any special recommendations there? Or shall I just check the girls and negotiate with the mamasan about it? Can I expect GFE there?

PS: Anybody there who wants to join next week Sunday, Tuesday or Wednesday?

Wikki

Places like the BBS's behind JUSCO are the fast food of sex. Like a meal at McD's, it can fill your immediate needs, but don't expect it to be more than that. Standard price at the places behind JUSCO is 150RMB. If the mamasan asks for more, negotiate til she agrees to 150. To get to the place, tell the cab driver, Zhi Zhu Dao.

ManonsanBoy
03-23-06, 11:33
Places like the BBS's behind JUSCO are the fast food of sex. Like a meal at McD's, it can fill your immediate needs, but don't expect it to be more than that. Standard price at the places behind JUSCO is 150RMB. If the mamasan asks for more, negotiate til she agrees to 150. To get to the place, tell the cab driver, Zhi Zhu Dao.



Where is JUSCO! Map anyone?

Tony Winston
03-24-06, 03:17
My friend and I will be staying in the Hilton within next week and we are looking for some fun activities while we are there for a few days. Any recommendations in or around the hotel ? Any good places for massage and Sex.

Thanks,

Tony

Denis
03-24-06, 17:41
First thanks to OAH for making the reservation at the Grand Holiday hotel
great and cheap!
After some excellent food at the Nan Gang Yu Restaurant we went for a foot massage in the hotel.
It is too bad foot massage are not that popular in Europe it is so relaxing !
Asked the feet massage girl for a full massage in the room but she was too young and it was a mistake after the massage she try to rip me off asking for 5000 for FS, negociated for 20minutes saying that I will not go more than 400 (she was nice!), finally through her out of the room!
The grand holiday hotel is ideally located as many SW are around , I could count at least 40.
This time my choice was a older lady as wanted to be sure the job will be done properly.
Excellent service for 200!
I have posted pics (sorry no nude! of the massage girl and SW in the section)
Tomorrow will try something different
Denis

OldAsiaHand
03-25-06, 10:55
Denis:

My pleasure to make the reservation. I have done a couple of the massage girls from the hotel and managed to negotiate for 400 FS (including only one 45 minute session), but of course they asked for a lot more. If I wake up in the middle of the night with a hard on, it is just more convenient to pick up the phone. I often wonder who, if anybody, actually pays them the ridiculous prices like she quoted you.

I don't know exactly where you found the SW, but if you cross Caitian Lu behind the block of restaurants there are many more.

OAH




First thanks to OAH for making the reservation at the Grand Holiday hotel
great and cheap!
After some excellent food at the Nan Gang Yu Restaurant we went for a foot massage in the hotel.
It is too bad foot massage are not that popular in Europe it is so relaxing !
Asked the feet massage girl for a full massage in the room but she was too young and it was a mistake after the massage she try to rip me off asking for 5000 for FS, negociated for 20minutes saying that I will not go more than 400 (she was nice!), finally through her out of the room!
The grand holiday hotel is ideally located as many SW are around , I could count at least 40.
This time my choice was a older lady as wanted to be sure the job will be done properly.
Excellent service for 200!
I have posted pics (sorry no nude! of the massage girl and SW in the section)
Tomorrow will try something different
Denis

Denis
03-25-06, 16:25
OAH
I was going tonight to follow your recommendation but, as I was going out of the hotel by the back entrance for a hunt, I found a pretty girl just there (I posted pics in the section)
As I have been to Hong Kong and back with some friends this afternoon (taxi, train, lot of walking) I decided to pick her and avoid the walking and it was a good choice , very GFE, very sweet, only problem was to hide the TV remote control!
damage: 200RMB. excellent value for the money ,
tomorrow on my way to Fuzhou and Wenzhou.
Too bad we missed each other , in France and now in Singapore and China!
Denis

Fast Eddie 48
03-26-06, 11:29
Where is JUSCO! Map anyone?


to manasanboy

I was just there only a few bbs open most are closed , you can not miss this
place big red sign in english JUSCO , Don't waste your time here and go to
sha tsui , I am heading there now it was pack last night full of hong kong
monger and a lot of girl .

fast eddie 48

Lex Moon
03-27-06, 00:53
OAH. How much is Grand Holiday hotel? Is it easy to get there from Lowu station? I have only been to Shezhen once by train from Guangzhou.


Denis:

My pleasure to make the reservation. I have done a couple of the massage girls from the hotel and managed to negotiate for 400 FS (including only one 45 minute session), but of course they asked for a lot more. If I wake up in the middle of the night with a hard on, it is just more convenient to pick up the phone. I often wonder who, if anybody, actually pays them the ridiculous prices like she quoted you.

I don't know exactly where you found the SW, but if you cross Caitian Lu behind the block of restaurants there are many more.

OAH

OldAsiaHand
03-28-06, 12:13
Lex Moon:

I get a corporate rate around 400 RMB. It's about 15-20 minutes from the train station.

OAH



OAH. How much is Grand Holiday hotel? Is it easy to get there from Lowu station? I have only been to Shezhen once by train from Guangzhou.

Wikki
03-28-06, 17:03
I always make the same mistakes.

Yesterday some guy on the street gave me a name card for young prostitutes to visit you in your room. Well today I was too lazy to go out so I called that number. He first wanted to arrange me a russian girl for 1200 RMB. After negotiating for a while we ended up to a deal with a "young nice chinese girl" for a one hour visit and two times come. About 20 minutes later he called me and asked to pick her up downstairs. She was waiting in front of the lifts. The hotel guy would let her o with me - smiling.

Up in my room she asked me for the money. After a while I acepted and gave her the amount aggred on - my big fault!

Anyways - we had a shower first. Then I already recognized how demotivated she was. Also saw her standing in front of the mirror naked looking at something on her ****, right next to the lips. It looked like a little nipple - and some time ago I read an article somewhere about sexualdeseases. So I asked her to give me a BBBJ first, which she denied. OK, CBJ was ok, though again not motivated at all! After coming she jumped right back to her clothes and got dressed again. I was discussing but she woundn't understand anyway. So I gave the guy a call again - but no chance, he said it was 500 for one time come. I told her again to stay but I gave up and let her go. To keep her here I would have had to use force, which I don't like.

Actually I thought it's not a good idea to fuck her anyways. Even with a condom on both skins touches each other and I was afraid she might really have some desease. I would have had her give me another CBJ instead.

Minutes later the reception called me - "young girl just leaving. Was everything ok? " I said yes. What should I have done else? Go downstairs to the reception and discuss with them about a sex deal - no!

But please you mongers be warned. This guys number is 13543269914

Unlucky Wikki

Lex Moon
03-28-06, 19:58
Lex Moon:

I get a corporate rate around 400 RMB. It's about 15-20 minutes from the train station.

OAHThanks a lot. Is it close to a subway station? Need to go to Jusco :)

Santa
03-29-06, 09:18
Wikki.

Since you were new to Shenzhen, I had already sent you a private message telling you where to get good service for 150 to 200 rmb.

ANOTHER WARNING TO ALL. Read the fucking forum. Do NOT negotiate with male street pimps or touts!

Shame on you Wikki! But thank you very much for the honest report.

Let that be a warning to others.

Savannah
03-29-06, 13:03
I really miss the beach. I haven't found any information about dameisha or xiameisha beaches in the forum. Could someone recommend a good hotel for less than 400? I may bring my own, so mongering won't be necessary. I just want to lay on the beach and get some sun.

Also, will the Canton fair affect prices in Shenzhen and Dongguan? I hope to check out DG in a week or two. If everything will be more expensive later, i will make a point to go soon.

Thanks for the help!

Sammon
03-29-06, 17:38
Dameisha Beach is on the way to She Kou. There are no hotels on the beach.
Many nearby hotels are available. Go to ctrip.com and register and search for hotels in Shenzen. I am sure you will find some close to the beach.

TangZhen
03-30-06, 15:17
Was invited by OAH (Scholar and Gentleman that he is) to go to a monger convention in CP. Honored to be asked, but decliend as solo trips are my thing. I will agree to small hoard, but generally like to keep it small.

Headed to ShaZui in the mid afternoon. I like afternoon mongering, as the light is better so you have a better look at what you getting yourself into, or more accurately who your getting yourself into. A number of passes in the key area did not reveal anything special, so had to lower my standard down to 'quite nice'. A shop had a couple of girls that would fit that description, and after a bit of chatting picked a rather shy one from Hunan (one of OAH's favorite locations). Nice, but not super figure, and a nice enough face. One of those girls whos strongest points is that she does not have anything much negative about her. Went up to the room, and opened the door, and found another couple already using the bed. Ooops. Proceeded to another apartment with an empty room and had a nice time. She warmed up when she found I could speak Chinese a bit.

As for sex, she was not into BJ, which is ok with me as I kind of dont really care. She did the nipple suck thing, which I find a does not make me hot, so I hope she enjoyed it. 3 positions, and ran into the problem I typically have in that I can stay hard for long enough, but it takes a girl with some skill to manage to get a good 'chu shui' out of me, or is it 'qu shui'? So 20 minutes in, having been on top, her on top and back to me on top, and we were both too tired to continue. Which is fine with me and off to the show.

While showering up, I asked her about typical time usages. She said the majority of customers finish within 5 minutes. She told the story of a customer who was on his second time, and three putted the hole so to speak, or as she put it "yi, er, san, gao ding" which if you speak Chinese is quite funny. She confirmed that the three stroke experience was not very satisfying to her. She indicated that 15 minutes is about right for her, much more than that and she starts to get sore.

OldAsiaHand
03-31-06, 03:49
Sammon,

Have you ever been there? Dameisha is in completely the opposite direction from Shekou! It is on the other side of Yantian where the Shenzhen port is.

Savannah:

There are hotels at both Dameisha and Xiameisha. Dameisha even has a McDonalds! IMHO, the hotel at Dameisha is a little better, but the beach at Xiameisha is better. My reco is to keep going up along the shore to some of the smaller beach resorts. Since there is no bus service to these locations, there are many less people and the beaches are much cleaner. You will see advertising signs for these places along the road. Most only have those single beach huts right on the beach so don't look for a Hyatt, but I think I noticed a 2-3 star place at one of them.

Just my POV.

OAH






Dameisha Beach is on the way to She Kou. There are no hotels on the beach.
Many nearby hotels are available. Go to ctrip.com and register and search for hotels in Shenzen. I am sure you will find some close to the beach.

OldAsiaHand
03-31-06, 03:52
Lex Moon,

There is a station within 5 minutes walk that goes directly to Jusco, but I don't know the name since I've never used the subway.

OAH


Thanks a lot. Is it close to a subway station? Need to go to Jusco :)

SE Asia Joe
03-31-06, 04:02
Actually Daimeisha is still in Shenzhen just out of Yantian port/Shataojiao towards Daya Bay. You can get to it by bus or for RMB 100 by taxi from Luohu. Whilst the hotels are not on the beach, it is separated from the hotels by a mere road and one can easily get on it. You may want to pre-book the hotel but on my previous visits I had chanced it and instead walked in to bargain with the receptionists. I got various good discounts (depending on the day of the week and the season) and have on occassions gotten the room for a half day. It is great if you are with a companion as it is quite romantic. Daimeisha is just next to Xiaomeisha where there is a sort of Ocean Park. Quite a nice place - but do not expect the Beach experiences one gets in other parts of the world - no beach massages, hawkers, bikini clad beauties sunning themselves - or even many swimmers going into the water with you!
SE Asia Joe

Bob Builder
03-31-06, 04:04
OAH,

Sorry to correct the master but there are bus services to these locations as you pass Big Sand Beach before arriving at Little Sand Beach. Buses normally leave when full and stop everywhere so better to go by taxi. You will get ripped off on the way back as the taxis know you have to leave somehow.

Xioameisha has a particular hotel complex where you can rent bungalows near the beach.

As for mongering action, there used to gals that worked at night that you could go swimming with that let you "da bo bo" in the water but it has been a while since I have been out that way for fun. The beaches are more popular at night and very busy in summer than daytime given the Chinese aversion to tanning. They are lit up at night with floodlights in the high season. You can rent little puptents on the beach if you're in for a thrill.


Sammon,

Have you ever been there? Dameisha is in completely the opposite direction from Shekou! It is on the other side of Yantian where the Shenzhen port is.

Savannah:

There are hotels at both Dameisha and Xiameisha. Dameisha even has a McDonalds! IMHO, the hotel at Dameisha is a little better, but the beach at Xiameisha is better. My reco is to keep going up along the shore to some of the smaller beach resorts. Since there is no bus service to these locations, there are many less people and the beaches are much cleaner. You will see advertising signs for these places along the road. Most only have those single beach huts right on the beach so don't look for a Hyatt, but I think I noticed a 2-3 star place at one of them.

Just my POV.

OAH

TangZhen
03-31-06, 11:13
If you want a sure way to get to ShaZui, you can take the #63 bus which terminates there. It is a 1 minute walk to the shops and you can not miss where the action is from the bus stop. It also ironically goes behind Jusco also. Maybe it is a mongerland special, I dont know. All we need to do is have it go by FuTian and we are all set. Where it also goes I am not sure. Next time I am by a bus stop that serves the #63 I will give a look.

OldAsiaHand
03-31-06, 12:00
Bob Builder,

I was recommending that he go beyond Xiaomeisha outside of the SEZ, not the translation of "Xiao". I did not see any public buses out that way. I've hit some nice spots with those bungalows to rent right on the beach. Sorry if my post was confusing.

OAH

Dodgy Fellow
03-31-06, 15:40
It's the Ke Xue Guan station.


Lex Moon,

There is a station within 5 minutes walk that goes directly to Jusco, but I don't know the name since I've never used the subway.

OAH

Savannah
04-01-06, 04:15
I tried elong and ctrip. I will just take one of those hotels. I think la waterfront looks nice. I am sorry to use the forum like a travelling service, but this site has terrific information. I stumbled upon this site while planning a trip to Thailand. I probably saved $1000 with the info I found here. More imporantly, I did not look like a dumbass newb and spotted scams before i fell for them.

I hope to contribute more here, but my mongering is limited by the availability of freebies. Currently I am spending time with a 22 year old that picked me up at a restaurant. She just took my phone and called herself. The next day I got an invitation for dinner. She is good looking, sweet, has a job and some skill, and has not asked for a penny. She often volunteers to buy dinner or pay a taxi.

Life is good...Savannah

TangZhen
04-02-06, 03:06
I checked and in fact the #63 also hits, the Futian area, or at least pretty close, so you can use one bus to hit Jusco, Futian and terminate (so to speak) in ShaZui. It starts at BuJie checkpoint, so maybe that is an indication there is more action there. Who knows.

Peter Eastwest
04-02-06, 13:55
I was in SheKou again recently and had two night only there. First night I was with colleagues from local office so no chance to monger.

Second night I was alone and went to monger in SheKou bars and I soon found Hubei pretty girl for overnight in hotel (NanHai hotel where I always stay).

We were ready to leave the bar when we met two Russian guy who invited us for many drinks in this bar. They have just won a big contract and are celebrating and buying many drinks for all the girls and for the men also. (These guys have much money to spend.)

Anyway - long story short - I wake up in bed with young girl but NOT my Hubei girl. This was a younger girl from Yunan. She said 20 years. I was really looking forward to the Hubei but the Yunan was very good. When I woke up she laughed to me and explained that we were all drinking and I had much to drink and was choosing her and not her friend.

But I could not remember this and not remember that I fucked her in the night (but she said that I did and there were two condoms used!).

So we woke up later and we did all three positions - mish, doggy and CG.

She asked to leave at midday and I said okay. How much to pay? "Nothing she said. The russians have paid all." So all I paid her was RMB 10 for taxi.

I love Russian guys now! I was leaving to airport from SheKou ferry for night flight back home so I could not see Russians again to thank them but if you guys read this (or if anyone else knows these guys still living in Shenzhen) please say Thank You from Peter.

When I was looking in my camera later I found some pictures of the girl. I have no memory of taking these pictures but this is the girl in my room! I must have been very drunk to take pictures on the night before with no memory.

It is lucky that I checked. I would not wish my wife to find such pictures!
Pictures of girl on Foto Gallery for you to enjoy.

Peter

Dodgy Fellow
04-03-06, 18:55
After spending months away from the scene - wasn't quite willing to have a go with the LE on the prowl - I finally gave in to my id, treating myself with a trip to Sha Tsui over the weekend.

I took the #63 bus from behind Jusco. As Tangzhen reported, the bus' final stop is right at the front door of Sha Tsui. You cannot miss where the action is once you get off the terminus.

I had sensory overload witnessing the sheer number of girls and establishments. I would've dropped to my knees and kissed the earth in reverence to such a spectacle - if the streets weren't muddied from the rain.

Wasn't quite sure what I wanted to try first. I wanted to first take my time and walk around the area first. It didn't take very long before a mamasan cornered me and persuaded me to do some business. She showed me about 7 to 8 girls, and I quickly settled on this cute, fair Hubei lass with substantial tits. Damage: 150RMB. The mamasan proposed this price, and I was quite pleased not to have to haggle for it, unlike my earlier experiences elsewhere in Shenzhen.

After doing the deed I opted to continue my Sha Tsui walkaround. At times it seemed even the eateries and convenience stores had a service provider on hand for a quick screw. I'll say this though: for a monger's paradise the place was surrounded by pretty nice apartment buildings. Wonder if there's any available for rent...

About an hour later I wandered back to the girl-heavy part of Sha Tsui, and was cornered by another mamasan. I actually didn't feel like having another go so soon, but she pretty much said "No, you're here to have a good time" and pulled me into an apartment.

I was thinking of asking her nicely to let me go but thought, why the heck not, and told her I was looking for a girl with nice tits and who's willing to give head. She brought up some girls for me to look at - I actually recognized one of them from the lineup I was looking at before I picked the Hubei girl. Anyway, she later came back with another lineup...and I found this pretty Jiangxin chick, about 5'5" with nice tits for her frame.

Then mamasan asked if I wanted two girls. Actually, she persuaded me by pulling out another girl from the lineup (see a pattern here?). Both girls come from Jiangxin, and from what I gather the second girl is the veteran of the pair.

I realize the consensus among mongers on getting two girls is that it's a bit overrated, since they rarely lez out and all, but I figured I'll give it a go. It helped that the second girl - clad in a low-cut top - enthusiastically glomped onto me and was all smiles. Two well-endowed girls I actually find pretty at the same time? My id rubbed his hands in glee, which later played with two pairs of funbags.

The experience itself wasn't actually so bad. Both girls did DFK and BBBJ, and the girl I originally wanted even let me finger her (I managed to get three in). The other girl who was drafted to me didn't French kiss after I DFK'd the other one, and both wouldn't give me head at the same time, but I'm just nitpicking right now. My only complaint at the time wasn't that they wouldn't do this or that, but that the damn bed is too hard. My knees are still sore from the whole thing.

Damage for the threesome: 300RMB

I will definitely visit Sha Tsui again one of these days. Big thanks to the many posters who have provided info on the place.

Bnlee2
04-03-06, 21:12
another sha tsui convert.... they had a crackdown earlier this year... im glad that it is back to where it was before. it is truly paradise . i go there every chance i get when i am back there on business.


After spending months away from the scene - wasn't quite willing to have a go with the LE on the prowl - I finally gave in to my id, treating myself with a trip to Sha Tsui over the weekend.


Damage for the threesome: 300RMB

I will definitely visit Sha Tsui again one of these days. Big thanks to the many posters who have provided info on the place.

Caron Demonio
04-04-06, 11:21
Yes, Shangri-la is not girl friendly after 11pm and the security people will ask many questions.Actually I never had problem having girls coming over to my room after 11 pm (perhaps staying at the Horizon Club helps?). I've also figured out that many FLs (there is a sort of gang) go to the 360 lounge on the top floor and they have no problem to meet you in the room, well after 11.00 pm

Fast Eddie 48
04-04-06, 21:30
I checked and in fact the #63 also hits, the Futian area, or at least pretty close, so you can use one bus to hit Jusco, Futian and terminate (so to speak) in ShaZui. It starts at BuJie checkpoint, so maybe that is an indication there is more action there. Who knows.

to tangzhen

The # 63 bus also go pass fuxing rd and fua hua rd near fuatian walmart area
get off at vienna hotel futain the bbs action is behind the area , another is
mini green bus #416 start at lo wu train station go pass jusco , futian and to
sha tsui and end at (xia sha lower sand ) 3 rmb .

fast eddie 48

Xdentx
04-05-06, 05:03
Interesting article on China's attempt to curb pickpockets on Shenzhen buses.

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/003200604031221.htm

Westex
04-06-06, 00:12
I need a little help guys. I'm a newbie to Shenzhen but not this board, and trust me, I've combed through dozens of Shenzhen posts going back many months. There are many references to the area around JUSCO, and Weelock even referred at one point to a previous map. But for some reason his older posts are unavailable so I can't find it.

I'm staying on Taining Road in NE Shenzen and thought I'd hit the jackpot the first day--I saw a big store with big JUSCO sign, a block away. So I took a couple long walks around the area, day and night, and found....nothing. I THINK--not sure--I finally figured out why. Jusco is a CHAIN of stores and based on my google search, there are several in Shenzhen. The one near me, I'm pretty sure, is not the one referenced so often on this board.

So, can someone help out this poor Texas boy and give me either (a) street names/intersection, (b) a map (I've tried on google), or (c) name & address in Chinese?

thank you...xie xie...gracias. glad to return the favor if you're ever in El Paso/Juarez, though neither compares to anyplace I've been in China.

Acer V
04-06-06, 04:54
Hi Westex. I didn't know there was another Jusco in the NE end of the city. The one everyone else is referring to is in a modern shopping mall (Zhongxing Guangchang, I think its called in zhongwen??) located at Shennan Rd in the Futian district. I'll try to see if I can find a map and post it. The hunting grounds are to the south of the Jusco and shopping mall.

Boricua
04-06-06, 05:29
Hi everyone!

I mainly just lurk here, but I am now going to be spending a couple of days in Shenzhen and will be staying at the Best Western Felicity Hotel. Can anyone tell me if it is guest friendly or if there is any type of action nearby?

LittleGoomba
04-06-06, 09:25
Yeah, I think there may actually be three in town. My first time through I just told the cabbie that I wanted to go to the one closest to the Ke Xue Guan subway station as I had forgotten the street names.

TangZhen
04-06-06, 11:25
For our Jusco journey, you are looking for ZhongXinGuanCheng on Shennan Lu. It is in LuoHu Qu (district) near KeShuiGuan (Science Museum). There are many ways to get there

1) get a taxi and say, ZhongXinGuanCheng zai Shennan Lu zai LuoHu. He should be able to figure it out even through a texas drawl.

2) you could go to the subway and get off (no pun intended) at KeShuiGuan and look around for Jusco. Stick to Shennan road, and you should see a fancy shopping mall with a big TV on the building, though that TV is often off.

3) Many, many busses go there, but you would have to know where to get off (no pun intended).

4) find someone who knows it and have them take you.

Lastly, once you arrive at Jusco, go behind it, (at the T at the street) cross the street and turn left and cross the small street and search that block. It will be pretty dry at first, but as you pass the police affairs office in the middle of the block, it should start getting more interesting. It is pretty slow there early in the morning, but there is a girl available there pretty much 24/7. After 4 pm the place is in full swing till about 2 am.

OldAsiaHand
04-06-06, 13:54
Westex:

ZhongXinGuanCheng = Citic Plaza

Happy Hunting!

OAH


For our Jusco journey, you are looking for ZhongXinGuanCheng on Shennan Lu. It is in LuoHu Qu (district) near KeShuiGuan (Science Museum). There are many ways to get there

Peter Eastwest
04-06-06, 16:29
I was having problems for some time to post the pictures of the Yunan girl but fellow monger LexLuther has done a favor and posted the pictures for me. Thankyou LL.

Pete


I was in SheKou again recently and had two night only there. First night I was with colleagues from local office so no chance to monger.

Second night I was alone and went to monger in SheKou bars and I soon found Hubei pretty girl for overnight in hotel (NanHai hotel where I always stay).

We were ready to leave the bar when we met two Russian guy who invited us for many drinks in this bar. They have just won a big contract and are celebrating and buying many drinks for all the girls and for the men also. (These guys have much money to spend.)

Anyway - long story short - I wake up in bed with young girl but NOT my Hubei girl. This was a younger girl from Yunan. She said 20 years. I was really looking forward to the Hubei but the Yunan was very good. When I woke up she laughed to me and explained that we were all drinking and I had much to drink and was choosing her and not her friend.

But I could not remember this and not remember that I fucked her in the night (but she said that I did and there were two condoms used!).

So we woke up later and we did all three positions - mish, doggy and CG.

She asked to leave at midday and I said okay. How much to pay? "Nothing she said. The russians have paid all." So all I paid her was RMB 10 for taxi.

I love Russian guys now! I was leaving to airport from SheKou ferry for night flight back home so I could not see Russians again to thank them but if you guys read this (or if anyone else knows these guys still living in Shenzhen) please say Thank You from Peter.

When I was looking in my camera later I found some pictures of the girl. I have no memory of taking these pictures but this is the girl in my room! I must have been very drunk to take pictures on the night before with no memory.

It is lucky that I checked. I would not wish my wife to find such pictures!
Pictures of girl on Foto Gallery for you to enjoy.

Peter

Westex
04-06-06, 17:33
Xie xie to all my brethren below for the fine assistance—also to “Santa” who PM’d me. The least I can do is offer a rare (for me) report.

I speak a LITTLE Mandarin and despite currently living in Tejas, actually grew up elsewhere (mostly southeastern U.S.). so no Texas drawl yet…..y’all. The only thing I would add to TangZhen’s great advice is: have someone at the hotel front desk write down “ZhongXinGuanCheng zai Shennan Lu zai LuoHu” in Chinese. I got it across to the cab driver verbally, no problem, but for those with no Mandarin at all (or a real Texas drawl), better have it in writing.

The cab dropped me off at what I first thought—despite the detailed guidance below—was the front of the JUSCO mall. Big sign, lots of activity, so I walked all the way around the block before realizing I’d been delivered to Ground Zero at the beginning. The “front” of the mall is set back a little, with a park across the street as noted by others here—the back (where I’d been dropped off) is the more commercial area w/Chinese shops across the street etc.. Shenzhen newbies, if you stand under the big JUSCO sign looking away from the mall, the BBS places are concentrated in the block in front and to your left.

Those narrow alleys are a trip. I love walking through the alleys of Shanghai and Beijing (the only China cities I know a little) b/c there’s so much going on, but have never been mongering there. I’m more familiar with the bar pickup/SW scene in China and the lame MPs in Mexico. The “rabbit warren” of narrow alleyways in that one block across from JUSCO was one of my most interesting walks yet in China (even before the good sex). Plenty of BBS action as noted here, lotsa girls, but all interspersed with and hard by (no pun intended) the usual little neighborhood restaurants, laundry places, families watching TV & kids playing, that you always see in the back alleys.

I cruised back and forth through those little alleys for 20 minutes or so, just soaking it up, checking out the eye candy and getting a feel for the area. The BBS places had anywhere from a few to a dozen girls hanging around, mostly looking bored (who wouldn’t be) but sometimes calling out to attract my attention. There are occasional lady MP touts (mah sah JEE?!) but all of them were ugly IMHO and unlike the BBS places, you can’t see the mah-sah-JEE girls from the street. I liked the cafeteria-style of walking those alleys….you can make sure you see something tasty before you buy.

Which I did of course. There was a cute young thing (+/-20yrs I’m sure) in one place wearing a white top and “hot pants”….really nice butt (not as flat as the usual PRC gals), breasts a perfect handful—just the way I like ‘em—and innocent face w/shoulder-length hair. When I pointed her out to papasan she seemed reluctant, and I soon figured out why. Papasan held out his hands almost a foot apart, clearly referring to the big-foreigner-rumored-length of my xiao di di (sp?). He wanted 200rmb at first but I showed him my thumb and forefinger a few INCHES apart—the truth is in between—and 150rmb was it (thanks again to everyone here for the price and other info).

Papasan took me around the corner, unlocked a door and showed me up a flight of stairs to a fairly clean apartment/room, and my temporary xiao jie followed immediately. She was shy at first but quickly took off her clothes and was very sweet. I won’t go into the “dear Penthouse” details but it was great. Someone said earlier that the JUSCO BBS places are like the fast food of sex. I don’t eat at McDonald’s often back home, but when you’re really hungry a Big Mac can hit the spot.

It wasn’t a GFE but wonderful for the time and money—got a nice BJ then a little mish, followed by doggie (my favorite) while looking at and grabbing that beautiful ass. Skin smooth as silk, like any Chinese babe I’ve ever been with.

To sum things up: sweeeeeeeeeet. Not sure of the “tip etiquette” in these places but I gave her an extra 20rmb, if only because I plan on going back to fuck her again tomorrow. Thanks to all & I hope this helps other Shenzhen newbies/fools like me.

Csun213
04-06-06, 20:17
Does anyone know whether 3 hours is enought time to go from Maccu Airport to Hong Kong airport to catch another flight? My Maccu flight will land at 13:50 and my flight back to the U.S. from Hong Kong leaves at 16:50. Just wondering if it is enough time to make the flight. Also what would be the best route and cost? Thanks

Cebu Local
04-06-06, 23:06
Does anyone know whether 3 hours is enought time to go from Maccu Airport to Hong Kong airport to catch another flight? My Maccu flight will land at 13:50 and my flight back to the U.S. from Hong Kong leaves at 16:50. Just wondering if it is enough time to make the flight. Also what would be the best route and cost? ThanksYes,You should make it,the turbojet Sea Express reccomends a minimum of 2 hours connection time.They can check your bags in the Ferry straight to the plane,basically for more info www.turbojetseaexpress.com.hk or www.turbojet.com.hk.I do this all the time.But check the schedules for the Macau -HKIA ferry.There s also the helicopter if you have money to burn

Sammon
04-06-06, 23:49
Best way is the turbojet which leaves from Macau turbojet terminal. Take a taxi to the terminal. They have frequent sailings to HKG airport. Check your bags with them and get a ticket. They also have first class tickets. Once they land at the Hkg airport ferry terminal your bags will be brought to you.
In the terminal there are airline counters where they will check your baggage and give you a boarding pass. Also they will give you a voucher which you redeem after you cross the security check point. It is about 120 HKg dollars.After that a bus will take you directly to the airport departure terminal.
There will not be any immigration procedure. Go directly to your gate and board the flight.

Sammon
04-06-06, 23:51
By the way the ferry takes between half hour to forty five minutes.

TangZhen
04-07-06, 14:32
WT:

Glad things worked out in the end. You make a good point, that taxis typically drop you off in the back, and unless you know Shennan Road, it might seem like the front, though once you see the front you can tell.

If it is the first time there, it is a good idea to cruise it for a good 20 minutes. Even though I have been there once or twice myself, I always give it is good slow cruise even though I am 95% sure which shop I will wind up in. My routine is to buy a small bottle of water and take sips while doing my cruise. Cant tell you why, give it a try next time and let me know.

As for tipping, 20rmb is not a big deal and wont ruin the market, I sometimes give a tip, but if you want more bang for your buck (npi) you are better off to go to Watsons in the mall and buy a 10rmb facial mask and take it with you in a bag. If you like the girl, and it went well, gift her with the mask, if not then keep it yourself and enjoy a younger looking you! She will much prefer it that way compared to 20 rmb. I never give the girl the money directly, rather I just leave it for them in a spot where it is clear I left it. Never had any problem about it, though again no real reason cant give them money directly.

Lastly, one little thing I like to do, when going up stairs with the girl and she is leading the way, hit (not hard) or slap her on her butt. Wierd but they like it, makes it more playful and helps break any tension. I will normally do it at least twice on the way up, the first time I will pretend it wasnt me who did it and the second time I will look her in the eye and make a funny face.

Now enough of this chat about girls, lets get to a good ferry post. Ooooh.


To sum things up: sweeeeeeeeeet. Not sure of the “tip etiquette” in these places but I gave her an extra 20rmb, if only because I plan on going back to fuck her again tomorrow. Thanks to all & I hope this helps other Shenzhen newbies/fools like me.

LittleGoomba
04-08-06, 16:38
Was in Shenzhen for a few days for business and finally had a chance to do the (in)famous Jusco/Sha Tsui/Wal-Mart Triangle I've been reading about forever. I think it was more relief than elation when I finally set my eyes on the pink lights of Shenzhen.

I'm relatively comfortable financially and enjoy my luxuries if I want them but also like getting my money's worth. Which is why when it comes to P4P, I'm mostly a BBS guy. Case in point, I'm walking the Jusco area when I see this 8+ walk out of a variety store and all I can do is stare because it seems like she's all legs and breasts with a hot face to boot. Naturally I follow her assuming she's either a non-pro or a ktv type girl. So imagine my absolute delight when I see her head to the Jusco BBS area and take a seat in one of the shops. You can bet that I didn't let her get too comfortable in her chair!

So yeah, 150Y got me a terrific lay with a 22yo, 1.72m, 105lb ex-model, ktv girl from Hunan. A little bit too pro then I am used to but not unexpected considering her 'movin on down' and besides, I wasn't looking for a cuddly experience this time. I was in lust and spent 35 minutes pouring it into this gal. She later softened up a bit and after some playful banter, confirmed that LT was possible for 400.

Afterwards, I reflected on how much I love this country. And unless they're Mongolian, I will never pay through my nose for premium girls again!

Superforce99
04-08-06, 19:19
Had the chance to go have some Sandy Lips today, and for
those who don't know, that is Sha Zhui (沙嘴) in Chinese.

Actually checked out the Fuxing Walmart area first but that area
just pales in comparison. There were about 7-8 shops open, few
gals and but nothing more than a weak 7 in my opinion so I got
to the end of the Walmart street, and directly across the street
from the Vienna Hotel is the #63 bus stop which terminates
at Sandy Lips. Takes about 15-20 minutes with smooth traffic.

Got off bus and looked around. It was kind of early at 5pm,
so things were just getting in full swing but plenty of gals,
HK guys, touts, and little kids as usual. Random cops patrolling
the streets, but I've I've never regarded them as anything more
than glorified, harmless background props and if you don't act
like an ass, no problems.

Actually took me a while to get approached by touts and was told
they thought I might be an undercover cop...what the hell? I always
get this shit and let me ask those of you who have seen me, isn't itFor
laughable??...but anyway...

Got the first lineup and was pleasantly surprised. Quality ranged
from 5s to a solid 8, and they all seemed happy/amused that I was a
young guy. Decided on the scientific combination of "cuteness" and
"good gut feeling" and chose Xiao Chen (picture 1).

She's tiny and plump, about 5'1, 110 lbs, 34 B, and from Hunan. She
seemed pretty detached until she realized I was a foreigner. She
even had me speak several complete sentences of English to prove my
outrageous lies of being a foreigner, ha...I actually sang her "You
Are My Sunshine" as proof and after all her smiles and blushing from
that, it was a GFE. Ha, who knew KTV skills would actually help me
in this siutation? Her actual sexual skills weren't that great, standard
at best, but she was really into touching and feeling, although very
ticklish if not done slowly and gently. She even asked me to take
her out overnight (which is 300 RMB by the way) and when I didn't, she
grabbed my mobile and punched in her numbers. So, another note, don't
leave your mobile in view if you don't want this happening (I was
checking the time on my mobile when she did that).

I was going to go into one of the restaurants and eat something and
relax for 30-45 minutes before doing another gal, but after walking
around for 5-10 minutes I decided to just do a gal cause I didn't
feel comfortable going to a restaurant/coffee shop/real business
establishment in the area...it's just too discombobulating to see the
same working gals, HK guys, and touts everywhere...kind of like when
Tom Cruise was completely alone in Times Square in "Vanilla Sky" and
just starts running away; I feel like doing that in Sandy Lips, unless I'm
doing a girl.

So, I find another mama and look at three more lineups before choosing
Xiao Jin (picture 2-3). Sorry the pictures are so blurry, but I barely
had time for a quick pic before she started covering herself or getting
out of camera range. Her reason was practical; she didn't want anyone
knowing she was a working girl, and I'm not going to pay for/force pics.
She's about 5'5, 105 lbs, 34C breasts...I mean, just a perfect body; the
kind that could turn a guy or girl on. Precisely why I chose her, since
I had just come about 15 minutes before, and I definately needed raw
sexiness to get me going. Also, going back to my highly scientific screening
proceedures, her I-love-smoking voice gave me the feeling that she would
give great BBJ, which turned out to be true. Overall, the service was
professional but good. Tight pussy, too, and the image of slamming her
missionary with those perfect breasts boucing to the rhythm turns me on
now....velvet skin, tight shapely arms and legs, flat stomach with slight
outline of ab muscles...
And seriously, with a bag on her head, she could definately model
for "Playboy" if they had an edition for girls with bags on their heads...

Weird thing to me is that Xiao Jin looked better than Xiao Chen in person,
but opposite seems true looking at the pics. Oh, well, my little digital
was being asked of too much for quick, impromptu pics in low-light conditions.

After Sandy Lips, I planned to go for one more round but decided to save
my bodily fluids for Jusco experience tomorrow. For my other fellow manimal
mongers, have fun and stay safe.


Johnny

Mc Fly XXX
04-09-06, 00:31
To all Shenzhen pros out there. Anyone going SZ over the Easter days?

Would like to join one of you pros as I dont speak no mandarin/cantonese. Would join in from HK.

If anyone is willing please PM me.

Thanks

Prado
04-09-06, 02:37
Weird thing to me is that Xiao Jin looked better than Xiao Chen in person,
but opposite seems true looking at the pics. Oh, well, my little digital
was being asked of too much for quick, impromptu pics in low-light conditions.

Johnny

From the pictures, Xiao Jin definately looked better than Xiao Chen from an Asian's perspective.

Pardo's back

Superforce99
04-09-06, 10:14
continuing from yesterday's report, i took care of some things so i would
have an afternoon for a jusco experience. got there at about 3:30pm, a little
early i think. about half the shops were closed, which i attribute to the
time and not a crackdown. still about 15 bbs open with plenty to choose from.
i used the scientific method of choosing lots of height/lots of breast this
time and found dan dan in the "tall shop" near the 7-11 type of shop. basically,
walk around the alleyway areas, not in the alleys themselves, and when you find
the big 7-11 type shop next to the chinese medicine shop on the corner, that's
it. generally has the tallest bbs girls in the area, though not necessarily the
best looking.

dan dan was an exception because she was a hot package...19 years old, about 1.69
meters (about 5'7), 115 lbs, 34 d breasts, and a tight young body. from hunan, so
i guess that'll be 3 hunan honey's this weekend for me. she definately knew she
was a killer package but not pretentious about it. service was good but professional.
nice shower, nipple licking, cbj (no budging on the bbj), and cfs. she gave me some
bs about "foreigners must like sex because you are so much better than chinese guys
and you are my first foreigner." unless she puposely rejects foreigner clients,
there's no way she hasn't been fucked by several foreigners already, maybe even this
week. she's hot enough to be in some second and third rate clothing advertisements
no problems, even without a bag on her head. so, good, pro service, 150 rmb and away
i go.

had a coffee and pastry at the crossants d'france next to the jusco supermarket area,
which is a great deal. after relaxing a bit, decided to try and find and old working
gal that gave me the best gfe i've ever had anywhere. lost contact for almost 6 months
now, so wasn't sure if she was still around in the mix c mall area. exit the mix c at
the miss sixty exit and then go straight down the street towards jusco. if you hit
a restaurant named antermin northern dumplings, then you're in the right area. look
around the surrounding area's alleys and you should find from 15-20 bbs rep001tered
about. found xiao yin with no problem. she's a 20 year-old cutie, about 1.64 meters,
100 lbs, and nice 34 c breasts. just a nice body to fuck, but not as much porn-star
quality as dan dan. had a great, great "reunion" with her and promised to be back
regularly. 120 rmb + 50 tip and out the door.

overall, a great time in sz the past couple of days with good quality experiences for
great prices.


johnny

Joeyjojo
04-10-06, 19:16
Good evening Gentlemen,

I've been in SZ for some time, but am just starting to delve into its seedy underbelly. I've got a few questions -- some of which make me look like a total dumbass -- and I'm hoping someone can help me out.

I've read a few reports about Vietnamese girls around town. Can anyone tell me pretty exactly where I might be able to find one? Always something I've wanted to sample.

And I've heard lots about 'blowjob factories' -- something about hot water, cold water, rim jobs, etc -- but have never managed to find such an establishment. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

Lastly -- what's up with the sex acronyms? Are people getting non-condomed bjs? I can't keep up with the jargon you kids are tossing around.

Hope you can help. And if not, happy hunting all the same.

Moody
04-12-06, 19:07
Hi,

Finding Vietnamese girls in Shenzhen would be like looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack... Pretty much non existent.

No so called "blowjob factories" either. Hot and cold blowjobs and AR can be found. Just ask any girl you find if they'll do it. You'll probably ask a few dozen girls before you get a "yes" though. You can also go to a sauna in Dongguan. Just about every one of them offers those services. That's probably your best route.

Best regards,

Moody




Good evening Gentlemen,

I've been in SZ for some time, but am just starting to delve into its seedy underbelly. I've got a few questions -- some of which make me look like a total dumbass -- and I'm hoping someone can help me out.

I've read a few reports about Vietnamese girls around town. Can anyone tell me pretty exactly where I might be able to find one? Always something I've wanted to sample.

And I've heard lots about 'blowjob factories' -- something about hot water, cold water, rim jobs, etc -- but have never managed to find such an establishment. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

Lastly -- what's up with the sex acronyms? Are people getting non-condomed bjs? I can't keep up with the jargon you kids are tossing around.

Hope you can help. And if not, happy hunting all the same.

Rickyeoh99
04-13-06, 01:05
Hi,

Finding Vietnamese girls in Shenzhen would be like looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack... Pretty much non existent.

No so called "blowjob factories" either. Hot and cold blowjobs and AR can be found. Just ask any girl you find if they'll do it. You'll probably ask a few dozen girls before you get a "yes" though. You can also go to a sauna in Dongguan. Just about every one of them offers those services. That's probably your best route.

Best regards,

Moody

In the first place, why go to China to look for Vietnamese gals?

Tequila Kid
04-13-06, 01:29
Arrived Hong Kong ~7pm Monday night. Took mini van to Huang Guang border, cab to hotel, checked into my room ~9:30pm.

Was tired from the flight but not ready for bed. I had an early meeting the next day, so I opted for some “fast-food” sex.

Washed up and took cab to Jusco.

Picked up a smoothie (with anti-oxidant supplements) at Kosmos and walked down the street toward the 7-11.

Quickly cruised the two main alleys. I recall about 15 or more locations open. Most had a good selection; all shapes and sizes could be found.

I am not a regular here, so I don’t have a favorite. I picked one, and we headed upstairs.

Blow by blow account….
1. Undress

2. Shower, she washed me. I felt her up, inserting my finger into her privates. Good attitude, she didn’t mind J .

3. Towel off, get on bed

4. She starts kissing my nipples, and feeling my up
(this is where the trouble started…I have hair on my chest, she got one of my hairs in her mouth and had to spit several times)

5. She begins bbbj….technique begins ok
(but more trouble …. more hair problems, she takes a good 3 or 4 licks then makes like she is hacking up a fur ball. The cycle is repeated about 4 times. Each time, I go soft in between the licks L )

6. I motion to make me hard using her hands, I feel her up, again inserted my finger. She is good and wet (always happens if they are under 30).

7. She gets the condom on me. Squats over me and begins up/down. The view is great, I’m helping her along by grabbing her thighs and tits. The rhythm is building. She feels good. After some time, I cumm.

8. She cleans me up. She is not in hurry.
(Jet lag is setting in, I don’t feel like chatting and trying for a 2nd pop.)

9. We shower up,

10. I pay her and leave


Rating & cost
Size/height/age: ~100 lbs/ B cups / 5’4” / mid to late twenties,
Looks: 6.5 / 10
Attitude: 7 / 10 (notwithstanding the spitting during bbbj)
Bbbj: 0 / 10
Technique 7 / 10 (felt good to be inside her)
Overall 6 / 10
Cost 150 rmb

The constant spitting during bbbj ruined her chance of tip, but overall attitude was good and technique was sufficient to get me off quickly (its what I wanted at the time).

I will try again next time I am in town, taking my time to scout around for someone tall with big breast.

TK

DayNight
04-13-06, 02:23
Lastly -- what's up with the sex acronyms? Are people getting non-condomed bjs? I can't keep up with the jargon you kids are tossing around.

Look an top of this page, there, white on darkblue, it said: "Abbreviations"

Now. Click it. And read.

Tequila Kid
04-13-06, 02:41
Besides Shekou Ferry, what options exist for transportation between Shenzhen and Kowloon?

I am coming from OCT. Huang Guang border is easy to get to, but Lo Wu is a bit out of the way.

I am guessing the HG to Kowloon route is common and I can get a bus or van at HG.

Appreciate any tips from experienced mongers.

TK

Tiger 888
04-13-06, 02:58
after you are throough the exit formalities and customs, turn left when you get out. there are counters for buses to almost any place in hk. the problem is that it is mostly only written in chinese as i remember well (i know my bus and can read some chinese). you may need to ask. hopefully soeone speeks english if you don't speak chinese.
the price to jordan (austin rd.) is around 30 during the day to around 35 at night. slightly cheaper with octopus

OldAsiaHand
04-13-06, 11:02
Besides Shekou Ferry, what options exist for transportation between Shenzhen and Kowloon?

I am coming from OCT. Huang Guang border is easy to get to, but Lo Wu is a bit out of the way.

I am guessing the HG to Kowloon route is common and I can get a bus or van at HG.

Appreciate any tips from experienced mongers.

TK

TK,

I always use the last counter (Blue and White buses). They have 24 hour bus service to Mongkok for 35 HK$, 32 with Octopus. The signs at the counter are in English and the buses have Mongkok on the side in English too. They also offer service to Wanchai and another place I can't remember.

OAH

Csun213
04-13-06, 16:46
Does the ferry in Shekou go directly to Maccu or do I have to go to Zhu Hai first than then go to Maccu? What would be the cost? I want to go to Maccu airport from Lo Wu in Shenzhen. Thanks

Yojnei
04-13-06, 18:51
The spitting during bbbj is quite standard in Mainland China. Although it is true that it is a turn-off, but you can get used to it, at least I do.

I remember a girl with over 9/10 face and body bbbj me and split in the process, her stunning and looking like one of my favourite ex, make splitting not at all objectable.


The constant spitting during bbbj ruined her chance of tip, but overall attitude was good and technique was sufficient to get me off quickly (its what I wanted at the time).

I will try again next time I am in town, taking my time to scout around for someone tall with big breast.

TK

Fast Eddie 48
04-13-06, 19:33
Does the ferry in Shekou go directly to Maccu or do I have to go to Zhu Hai first than then go to Maccu? What would be the cost? I want to go to Maccu airport from Lo Wu in Shenzhen. Thanks


to csun

The cost LO WU is far from shekou taxi 40 rmb 35 min , Shekou ferry to zhu hai ferry terminal is about one hr cost is around 80 rmb , I take this last month , You should spend a day or 2 in zhu hai , gongbei is the border to macau , I stay in zhu hai and take a day trip to macau just walk across the
border hotel is much cheaper in zhu hai but you need to get a multi entry visa
taxi from ferry terminal to gongbei border is 18 rmb about 20 min .

fast eddie 48

Fast Eddie 48
04-13-06, 19:38
Besides Shekou Ferry, what options exist for transportation between Shenzhen and Kowloon?

I am coming from OCT. Huang Guang border is easy to get to, but Lo Wu is a bit out of the way.

I am guessing the HG to Kowloon route is common and I can get a bus or van at HG.

Appreciate any tips from experienced mongers.

TK


to tk

There are many bus from kowloon and hong kong to huang guang border to
shenzhen jordan and mongkok tsim sha tsui cost is about 40 hkd , If you want
to go to lo wu border train is the best from tsim sha tsui east station to lo wu
border station about 40 min cost around 40 hkd .


fast eddie 48

Tequila Kid
04-14-06, 00:48
Yojnei,
In this case, she made like she was hacking up a fur ball after every 3 or 4 licks.

I understand the spitting is normal, I have experienced this before and expect it after CIM (see my report on K pressure, on Hong Kong board).
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=453169&postcount=3097

Also, my local girlfriend would give me fire-&-ice, and in between the cold/hot water, she would rinse with water in the WC and spit into the toilet.

Anyway, I'll be back in May and try my luck again.

TK

Tequila Kid
04-14-06, 00:56
OAH, Fast Eddie 48, Tiger 1,

Thanks. I expected as much but didn't want to wander around busy HG trying to figure it out.


TK

Tiger 888
04-14-06, 03:53
Does the ferry in Shekou go directly to Maccu or do I have to go to Zhu Hai first than then go to Maccu? What would be the cost? I want to go to Maccu airport from Lo Wu in Shenzhen. Thanks

There is a direct ferry from Shekou to Macau. But first there are only very few silings per day, maybe as little as 2. Secondly they don't arrive at the same ferry terminal as the ferries from HK, but at a very small one. I have taken it once from Macau to Shekou and the cost was a little over 100 as I remember.

So to reach Macau Airport from Lo Wu I would go through Kowloon. There you have sailings every 30 minutes. From TST east you can easily walk through Kowloon park if you don't have luggage. Else a taxi would cost less than 20 HK$. Ferry price is 130 if you buy from the travel agent next to the ticket counter during daytime (sailing latest at 5.30). In the morning before 10 am it is 10 HKD more. Not sure about the price on weekend, holidays.

Sammon
04-14-06, 04:23
Lo wu area to shekou by taxi is approx 78 RMB. I usually take the 11.45 am ferry to Macau. Ferry takes approx 1 hour and fifteen minutes. It goes to a ferry terminal at the end of ribiero street. Waiting time through the immigration is very short unlike the maritime center. From there take a taxi to Macau airport about 40 hong kong dollars.
The schedule you can get by going to Macau tourist board website.

Csun213
04-14-06, 04:33
Thanks to both Tiger 1 and Sammon. You guys give excellent informations.

Tiger 888
04-14-06, 06:00
I just found the pics of the ferry schedule published outside the terminal in Shekou. All ferries leaving from Shekou, sailing time and duration of the journey are mentioned.
If you want to access the website mentioned in pic no. 2, you need a computer where the sytem is set to GB code. The site is not in unicode!

Csun213
04-15-06, 17:07
Thanks to a lot of people I now have enough information to get to Maccu however I think I phased my question wrong since I have never been to Maccu airport which is where I want to go so I am asking a question again.

This time the question is what is the best way to go from LO WU in Shenzhen to Maccu airport? My flight is 2pm, what time should I leave Shenzhen? I am also going to post this question on the Shenzhen and Zhu Hai board hoping to get more information from the knowledge members. Thanks

Cebu Local
04-15-06, 23:15
Thanks to a lot of people I now have enough information to get to Maccu however I think I phased my question wrong since I have never been to Maccu airport which is where I want to go so I am asking a question again.

This time the question is what is the best way to go from LO WU in Shenzhen to Maccu airport? My flight is 2pm, what time should I leave Shenzhen? I am also going to post this question on the Shenzhen and Zhu Hai board hoping to get more information from the knowledge members. Thanks
I posted detailed directions how to use the express link service in the Zhuhai section.Cheers

TangZhen
04-16-06, 10:48
Made a quick trip down to ShaZui. The area is pretty much normal status. After a quick search I ran into Xiao Di. Short and a bit wide but with a great rack. I mean a really really nice pair. 20 years old from Hubei. In fact it seemed a good night for nice pairs as I found a few girls with a buxom figure.

Service in the room was fine, but I was on a bit of a short time frame so had to skip a few things I normally include. She made the wise move of asking if I wanted a 'tui' but I let her know I would be fine to skip it. Shocking but I have have found BJ much adue about nothing IMHO.

What I did include was a techiques I really liked. I stole it from a Japanese porn movie, and it worked like a charm. Who knows, it might be totally common but my ignorance maybe makes it seem a big deal to me. Anyway the deal is, start on top of the girl, inserted, sitting up with knees a bit forward. Now pull her arms a bit not so hard that she raises up, but enough that there is a bit of tension on them. I find that I can keep a quite high frequency without much fatigue. Of course I would wear down after a while, but the girl was moaning like nothing during that stretch. Anyone know what that really should be called, I am no sex expert, but in any other position I could not keep that frequency up. Particulary with a girl with large soft breasts, high frequency is great.

One other thing I did was, when she asked me about western guys being 'tai lihai' and how long I would take, I told her I am so quick, it will be 'yi, er, san, gao ding'. She made such a face when I told her it was really funny. I did ask her what time period she preferred, and she said 15~20 minutes is nice.

Sammon
04-16-06, 15:09
If your flight is at 2 pm, i would take 8.15 am ferry. I usually take 11.45 pm ferry and have gotten to the airport at 1.30 pm. But my flights are usually 2.20 to BKK 0r 2.45 to clark.
You have to be in Shekou ferry dock at 7.45 AM at the latest. There are some construction going on in that building.
1. Take the taxi at 6.45 am and that will give plenty of time for you. Cost is approx 78RMB. If you do not speak Chinese make the desk clerk write down on a piece of paper that you want to go to Shekou ferry dock which you can show to the taxi driver.
2. At the dock buy the ticket to Macau approx 140 RMB
3. Fillout departure form.
4. They will start boarding at 7.45 am

5. You will be in Macau by 9.30 am.
6. You have 3 hours to kill. You can use the sauna procedure or you can go to the casino put the luggage with the bell man and walk around,eat or wharever you want to do.
7. Take a taxi to the airport at 12.30 Pm.Approx 35 HKG dollars.

You will be there in plenty of time to catch the flight.

I have never taken a bus in Shenzhen or in Macau.

If you want to save some money you can take the Metro to the window of the world which is the last stop and then take a taxi from there.

Hippie
04-16-06, 17:01
Hi all,

Csun's question and Sammon's answer was very timely, as I was planning the same thing. However, if I have to get up at 6:00AM to do it, I am changing my plans. Here's the situation: I'll arrive in Shenzhen from Nanjing at about 7:30PM on Sunday, April 30 if the flight is on time (a big if). My Tiger Air flight to Clark is ta 2:OOPM the next day. I had planned to stay in Shenzhen to save money and see a bit of the town, but not if I have to get up that early. What do you guys recommend if my prime criteria is to get off as cheaply as possible without staying in a complete dump and not leaving my hotel much before 10AM? I'll need to be at the Macau airport by 1:00PM, and noon would be better. Should I stay in Macau? If so, any recommendations on where and how the best way to get there from Shenzhen? I wouldn't mind having some fun that night, but t is not a must. I speak a (very) little bit of Mandarin and no Cantonese. I know my way around Hong Kong pretty well, but have only spent one afternoon in Macau. I have done as much research as I could, but have not really been able to figure out the best way to go about this.

Csun213
04-16-06, 17:24
If your flight is at 2 pm, i would take 8.15 am ferry. I usually take 11.45 pm ferry and have gotten to the airport at 1.30 pm. But my flights are usually 2.20 to BKK 0r 2.45 to clark.
You have to be in Shekou ferry dock at 7.45 AM at the latest. There are some construction going on in that building.
1. Take the taxi at 6.45 am and that will give plenty of time for you. Cost is approx 78RMB. If you do not speak Chinese make the desk clerk write down on a piece of paper that you want to go to Shekou ferry dock which you can show to the taxi driver.
2. At the dock buy the ticket to Macau approx 140 RMB
3. Fillout departure form.
4. They will start boarding at 7.45 am

5. You will be in Macau by 9.30 am.
6. You have 3 hours to kill. You can use the sauna procedure or you can go to the casino put the luggage with the bell man and walk around,eat or wharever you want to do.
7. Take a taxi to the airport at 12.30 Pm.Approx 35 HKG dollars.

You will be there in plenty of time to catch the flight.

I have never taken a bus in Shenzhen or in Macau.

If you want to save some money you can take the Metro to the window of the world which is the last stop and then take a taxi from there.

I was going to PM you however I am posting it here since it might help other members. It happens that I am catching the same flight that you use to go to Bangkok at 2:20pm because we are going to Bangkok on Air Asia. So if I catch the 11:45 ferry I would arrive at the Macau airport by 1:30pm? Is this enough time for the 2:20pm flight? Do I then catch a taxi to the airport from the ferry station? Also do I catch the Macua ferry at the same Shekou ferry station as all the ferry. Catching 11:45am ferry sounds a lot better than catching the 8:15am ferry. ?Thanks

Csun213
04-16-06, 17:40
Hi all,

Csun's question and Sammon's answer was very timely, as I was planning the same thing. However, if I have to get up at 6:00AM to do it, I am changing my plans. Here's the situation: I'll arrive in Shenzhen from Nanjing at about 7:30PM on Sunday, April 30 if the flight is on time (a big if). My Tiger Air flight to Clark is ta 2:OOPM the next day. I had planned to stay in Shenzhen to save money and see a bit of the town, but not if I have to get up that early. What do you guys recommend if my prime criteria is to get off as cheaply as possible without staying in a complete dump and not leaving my hotel much before 10AM? I'll need to be at the Macau airport by 1:00PM, and noon would be better. Should I stay in Macau? If so, any recommendations on where and how the best way to get there from Shenzhen? I wouldn't mind having some fun that night, but t is not a must. I speak a (very) little bit of Mandarin and no Cantonese. I know my way around Hong Kong pretty well, but have only spent one afternoon in Macau. I have done as much research as I could, but have not really been able to figure out the best way to go about this.

I think if your flight is at 2:20pm or later, you can take the 11:45am ferry (I hope). If it is earlier you might want to go to Zhu Hai, which is like Shenzhen with all the girls and everything. The hotel in Zhu Hai is about the same price as Shenzhen between 250-350 depending on which hotel you want to stay at then in the morning just walk across the border and take a taxi to the airport.

I would do that except the friend I travel with want to spend all the time in Shenzhen and then go directly to Macau airport otherwise I would prefer staying in Zhu Hai for one night. You can post on Zhu Hai board to see which best hotel to stay for value.

Blacklisted
04-17-06, 02:56
Hi Shenzheners,

Usually I hang on the Shanghai board but I am planning a little jaunt to Shenzhen next month and was wondering about activities recommended by you good people during the daylight hours as I will be tied up at nights with non-mongerers (strange breed that they are)?

You can tell me to RTFF on this, although it seems like a big job considering the nature of my request, and what would I use as a tag? Daylight? Daytime?

I don't know, but any help from someone willing to chuck a dog a bone will be well repaid with info on Shanghai if needed.

All the best!!

Sammon
04-17-06, 03:37
I have taken Air Asia flight to BKK leaving at 2.20 pm.
You will have enough time because Macau airport is not crowded at all and it takes only 5 to 10 min max to check in and be at the gate.
In Shekou you go to the same ferry terminal. There is only one terminal. From there you can take many ferries e.g HKG airport, Macau.
Macau ferry terminal for that ferry is at the end of ribiero street. If anybody has been to Macau it is the main street going through downtown from Casino Lisboa.
Once you come out of the ferry terminal take a passing taxi to the airport.
Last time I took Tiger Air flight to Clark it was at 2.40pm. I wonder whether they changed the time now.

OldAsiaHand
04-17-06, 12:01
Tripper,

Obviously, your selection is much better in the evening wherever you go. Having said that, I've noticed that the Futian WalMart area seems to get going the earliest with even some BBS reasonably well stocked around 11:00AM. Jusco starts a little later around 2:00-3:00PM. Sha Tsui also has a few stragglers in the afternoon and some of the FS saunas there are open 24/7.

OAH



Hi Shenzheners,

Usually I hang on the Shanghai board but I am planning a little jaunt to Shenzhen next month and was wondering about activities recommended by you good people during the daylight hours as I will be tied up at nights with non-mongerers (strange breed that they are)?

You can tell me to RTFF on this, although it seems like a big job considering the nature of my request, and what would I use as a tag? Daylight? Daytime?

I don't know, but any help from someone willing to chuck a dog a bone will be well repaid with info on Shanghai if needed.

All the best!!

Dar425
04-17-06, 19:30
Here is a link to a pretty good map of Shenzhen.

If you Right-click and SaveAs to your computer, you will only get a small part of the map (the map is really made from 9 JPGs).

What will be nice is if someone can edit each JPG to post where Jusco is, etc.

Here is the link to the 9 JPGs map:
http://maps-of-china.net/city/shenzhenm.htm

The map does not include Shekou area.

They have maps of many other Chinese cities too: Guangzhou, Zhuhai, Guiyang, Chengdu, Nanjing, Nanning, Harbin, etc.

Dar

Blacklisted
04-18-06, 03:33
Great, I'll try out the Jusco area and report back. AG's told me Shenzhen goes off in comparison to Shanghai and he's spoilt back here now. Keeps saying the girls here aren't up to scratch.

Where are the apartments you mentioned Santa? Are they only open in the night?

Csun213
04-18-06, 04:31
I have taken Air Asia flight to BKK leaving at 2.20 pm.
You will have enough time because Macau airport is not crowded at all and it takes only 5 to 10 min max to check in and be at the gate.
In Shekou you go to the same ferry terminal. There is only one terminal. From there you can take many ferries e.g HKG airport, Macau.
Macau ferry terminal for that ferry is at the end of ribiero street. If anybody has been to Macau it is the main street going through downtown from Casino Lisboa.
Once you come out of the ferry terminal take a passing taxi to the airport.
Last time I took Tiger Air flight to Clark it was at 2.40pm. I wonder whether they changed the time now.

Thanks for the information. I will check to make sure that they still have the 11:45am Ferry to Macau. I will also check to see if Tiger Air still have the 2:40PM flight to Clark (if time permits)

Santa
04-18-06, 05:25
Where are the apartments you mentioned Santa? Are they only open in the night?

They are a few minutes walk east of the ShangriLa Hotel. The hotel is at the last metro stop, near the train station. There are always a few mamies walking around and a daytime walk may be ok. A few cheap restaurants and foot massage places. But some of the girls don't like "white devils", so Jusco may be a better option.

Ace Gallant
04-18-06, 07:04
Great, I'll try out the Jusco area and report back. AG's told me Shenzhen goes off in comparison to Shanghai and he's spoilt back here now. Keeps saying the girls here aren't up to scratch.

Where are the apartments you mentioned Santa? Are they only open in the night?

I think the main problem is that The City of Shanghai is much bigger than Shenzhen, and therefore there are more place to monger.

In terms of my experience these will be my rankings:

BBS:
1) Shanghai
2) Nansha
3) Guangzhou

SWs:
1) Zhu Hai
2) Shanghai
3) Beijing

Saunas:
1) Zhuhai
2) Shanghai
3) Macau (If you don't mind the price but goes for quality of girls - International girls!)
4) Shenzhen

KTVs:
1) Shanghai
2) CP?? (Haven't been there yet but very much speculated by OAH, Croning....)
3) Macau
4) Zhuhai

Of course I made this list based on the priority: 1) Accessiblities 2) Price 3) Quanlity 4) Qualities 5) Language ablities 6) Safety "No ripped off"

I know others will have something else to say and I do appreciate them saying so that I know more!

Enjoy
AG

TangZhen
04-24-06, 03:24
Tested the ShaZui area at about 1:30 on Sunday. Of course it has about only 1/2 the girls compared to during the evening, but it was enough. I a bit went away from my typical method of finding the girl with the hottest figure, and went with a nice looking, but a bit more plain girl. Actually I was looked for the same girl as late time, but that shop was not open yet. Pity.

Things went as normal with the girl, except that I added a small thing I had been considering, in that when we are in the room, and she starts to take her clothes off, I, in a mildly brusk voice, tell her to wait. I continue to take most of my clothes off. Once I am down to a suitable state of undress, I take my time and slowly undress her. The effect was good, it is nice fun and leaves her more than a bit confused for a while, which I like.

Cappy
04-24-06, 18:42
I was showing a newbie around Jusco this evening. Many shops were not open but there was more activity in the back alleys.
Unusual number of lights on and motorcylcles sitting in front of the police station, but I thought nothing of it. I saw some important looking officer staring out the window at me as we passed.
About 10 minutes later I noticed about 10 of them marching in double time to the back alleys. Sliding overhead doors started slamming shut, girls running out of their "offices", tripping over each other in their hurry to get away.
I explained to my buddy that as we get closer to holidays the police stage more crackdowns. it didn't matter, he was still spooked... maybe for a good reason too.
He noticed that while they were in different ally they were looking at him (us) as we were walking. I told him that that was enough for me. One shop was still open in the second lane. It looked friendly enough the laobanyan said no when I tried to chat.

This has never happened to be before at Jusco. I'm feeling like it could have been us. It's close to holidays. There wasn't much mongering traffic, and we probably stuck out. As we walked the main street (behind Jusco) there were 4 officers going into the massage places.

We stopped for a coffee at Starbucks. I was curious to go back and see if they'd left or if the shops reopened. There was fear in my buddies face. He'd had enough I so decided to leave this episode to better mongerers than us to figure it out.

Bob Builder
04-25-06, 02:52
Not a good time for mongering! More of a time to dig out those digits a get takeout.

Some of you guys should buy a calender and ring the days for a few weeks before and after the holidays. Just like a gal monitoring her period.



I was showing a newbie around Jusco this evening. Many shops were not open but there was more activity in the back alleys.
Unusual number of lights on and motorcylcles sitting in front of the police station, but I thought nothing of it. I saw some important looking officer staring out the window at me as we passed.
About 10 minutes later I noticed about 10 of them marching in double time to the back alleys. Sliding overhead doors started slamming shut, girls running out of their "offices", tripping over each other in their hurry to get away.
I explained to my buddy that as we get closer to holidays the police stage more crackdowns. it didn't matter, he was still spooked... maybe for a good reason too.
He noticed that while they were in different ally they were looking at him (us) as we were walking. I told him that that was enough for me. One shop was still open in the second lane. It looked friendly enough the laobanyan said no when I tried to chat.

This has never happened to be before at Jusco. I'm feeling like it could have been us. It's close to holidays. There wasn't much mongering traffic, and we probably stuck out. As we walked the main street (behind Jusco) there were 4 officers going into the massage places.

We stopped for a coffee at Starbucks. I was curious to go back and see if they'd left or if the shops reopened. There was fear in my buddies face. He'd had enough I so decided to leave this episode to better mongerers than us to figure it out.

CrashOver
04-25-06, 17:47
Dear All Tai Kor,

I'm new to this ShenZhen forum. Most of my FR is at Malaysia, cos I'm a Malaysian. But coming month mid May 2006, I will travel over to ShenZhen for training abt 1month.

So would like all Tai Kor recommend me some good place to visit. Which is good reasonable price & nice.

Thank you in advance.

P/S: Appreciate if could PM me details.

Yojnei
04-26-06, 22:52
According to reports posted on internet, a gal was killed in the area by her customer at Jusco area. So the place is a definite no go for a long period. And in general, the police action has been very active in this recent weeks. Many gals and monkers got caught.


Not a good time for mongering! More of a time to dig out those digits a get takeout.

Some of you guys should buy a calender and ring the days for a few weeks before and after the holidays. Just like a gal monitoring her period.

Night Cat
04-27-06, 01:24
According to reports posted on internet, a gal was killed in the area by her customer at Jusco area. This is very sad. Any info on who the customer was, e.g., Chinese, HK, foreigner? And was he caught? Any mongers with connections to Jusco mamas know the real scoop?

Superforce99
04-27-06, 07:23
According to reports posted on internet, a gal was killed in the area by her customer at Jusco area. So the place is a definite no go for a long period. And in general, the police action has been very active in this recent weeks. Many gals and monkers got caught.


Where did you find the news? I didn't see anything online...

Yojnei
04-27-06, 15:09
From local chinese sex forum. I can read chinese. Both the victim and suspect should be local mainland chinese. Noone is caught. You cannot expect much from the police there. Anyway, it is not very safe in Shenzhen right now, lots of police action. Though it is still safer in Hotel or else, go further to Dongguan.


Where did you find the news? I didn't see anything online...

Tangent
04-28-06, 15:36
Yojnei> thanks for the info. Informative,

Well, if Jusco is not particularly wise at this moment, I might suggest a place that is just about the same distance from the Diwang building as Jusco is. I do not know what the name of the urban village (cun) is but the directions from Diwang are:
--Walk up Baoan lu about 600 meters and take a right at the third street, Hongli lu.
--So, walking east, go one hundred meters and turn left (north) at the traditional Chinese stone village pillared gate.
--In the north-south side alley just to the left (west) of the village's main alley/street are about 5 shops.
I thought the quality of the young ladies was good. At this one place, the only place I enquired at, Mamasan started out with 150 rmb and I did not haggle. The gals at the place ranged from 18-25 according to the young lady I had and she was nice, if inexperienced, and the mamasan called up after an hour.

Try it out and give me some thoughts.

CrashOver
04-29-06, 10:51
Dear All Tai Kor,

I'm new to this ShenZhen forum. Most of my FR is at Malaysia, cos I'm a Malaysian. But coming month mid May 2006, I will travel over to ShenZhen for training abt 1month.

So would like all Tai Kor recommend me some good place to visit. Which is good reasonable price & nice.

Thank you in advance.

P/S: Appreciate if could PM me details.Hi All members,

Could you guys help me, or give me some ideals where I could look for WL at ShenZhen. I will be there by mid May 2006.

Appreciate for help.

Weelock
04-29-06, 12:36
According to reports posted on internet, a gal was killed in the area by her customer at Jusco area. So the place is a definite no go for a long period. And in general, the police action has been very active in this recent weeks. Many gals and monkers got caught.


Humm, I recall reading in ISG they install video surveillance camera in some parts of Jusco a while ago. I hope they have some video to catch the person or people. It just take one person to spoil it for everyone else.

Just a side note in Zhuhai, Lian Hua Road, I noticed a few black video surveillance camera attach to second store buildings.

Weelock

Soulman
04-29-06, 20:32
Hey old timers out there! OAH? Ras? Moody?

Gents, I'm returning to my happyland after over 1 1/2 yr of absence. Changed job and went to Puerto Rico monthly and now back to China (and Malaysia).

So where're the action lately? Can mongers get together next weekend (5/6 and 7) in SZ? Will be staying at Venice.

Is Shekou street and barbershop action still OK? How about barbershops in Futian WM? My fave place to pick up cuties were on the Futian road near WM and side road to hotel with Las Vegas KTV near KFC...

Cheers!

Soulman
04-29-06, 20:35
I'm heading to Penang next week then SZ for the weekend. I'm used to street scenes and KL and loonngg drive to Thai border in late 90's.

Any where interesting near Northam All Suite Hotel?

Thanks dude!

PS - Been mongering with bros met thru here since 2001... Can help if you're there next weekend - 5/6 and 7.

Soulman
04-29-06, 20:38
Wow, lots of old timers like Csun, Weelock and Tang here. :)

Soulman
04-29-06, 20:40
Hi OAH!

Soulman here! Glad to see you. Still living in GZ? Thanks a lot for the times mongering together and showing me the places...

I'm coming back next weekend. Open for some mongering?

Cebu Local
05-01-06, 00:59
I'm heading to Penang next week then SZ for the weekend. I'm used to street scenes and KL and loonngg drive to Thai border in late 90's.

Any where interesting near Northam All Suite Hotel?

Thanks dude!

PS - Been mongering with bros met thru here since 2001... Can help if you're there next weekend - 5/6 and 7.You can try going to the Health Clubs in Grand Continental hotel or PM me If you want some Freelancer Mobile nos,I was there 3 weeks ago.Cheers

ManonsanBoy
05-01-06, 23:24
Was at Sha Tsui yesterday around 5 PM. Lots of girls. Got a delightful one from Guangxi from mamasan. GFE. 150 RMB. I gave her another 50 RMB because she was so GFE and playful and got her phone.

Adventur
05-02-06, 04:35
Hi guys,

I have searched this board for sha tsui location but could not find any.

Can someone post a GPS coordinate or a google earth location?

Infact maybe this could be a nice start on all our locations!

Thanks

ABCinLA
05-02-06, 08:15
To Adventur:

Someone had posted a picture of the gateway to Sha Tsui. I previously had printed it and showed it to a cab driver who had no problem finding it. I was there about 2 weeks ago.

Dar425
05-02-06, 20:46
Guys, I will soon be in Shenzhen and seeking advice on:

1) Best place to go for a good *HAIR CUT*, followed with BBBJ / CIM. What place and price should I expect? Does the same girl give both the haircut and BBBJCIM? My hotel will be in LuoHu district. Note that I'm a white man with white man hair, and I prefer an English speaking asian girl, but willing to try non-english speaking girl/business (can make do!).

2) What is the best way to go from Shenzhen/LuoHu to Guangzhou? Taxi vs Bus? What is the cost and time difference? I am guessing Taxi is faster and less than 40 RMB? Do I just ask for any Taxi near to my hotel or do I go a special place to find a 'long distance' taxi service to Guangzhou?

3) Can anyone recommend some bars/clubs that are best to look for 'free' action? I will also do some exploring and post results here from my visit. I see there is a Hard Rock Cafe; wondered if the bar area there is good to try, or other bars. I also wonder about any bars near to some Universities if they might be good to try for luck.

Post here, or PM to me.

Thanks brothers!

Dar

TangZhen
05-03-06, 05:12
Dar425 do NOT, I repeat NOT, get your hair done at any place that sells sex! These two do not mix well. The whole BBS thing is a front at certain places because they need to have some business lisence and brothel was somehow not an option. It originated in Taiwan I believe. I know it may sound tempting but to have sex while you get your hair cut is NOT WISE.

There are plenty of good places to get your hair done, depending on your budget. You can tell these places as the chairs face the mirrors and have guys with scissors and a bunch of bottles of shampoo that have recently been used. Sex shops tend to have a bunch of girls watching TV facing the outside and dressed like prostitutes.

I hope this helps clear it up.

Kagelo
05-03-06, 11:14
Hello,

I am heading to SZ next month. I am interested to know if there is cheap accomodation available there and what is the cost to get to HK by train or bus daily?

Thanks in advance!

Fast Eddie 48
05-03-06, 21:34
Guys, I will soon be in Shenzhen and seeking advice on:

1) Best place to go for a good *HAIR CUT*, followed with BBBJ / CIM. What place and price should I expect? Does the same girl give both the haircut and BBBJCIM? My hotel will be in LuoHu district. Note that I'm a white man with white man hair, and I prefer an English speaking asian girl, but willing to try non-english speaking girl/business (can make do!).

2) What is the best way to go from Shenzhen/LuoHu to Guangzhou? Taxi vs Bus? What is the cost and time difference? I am guessing Taxi is faster and less than 40 RMB? Do I just ask for any Taxi near to my hotel or do I go a special place to find a 'long distance' taxi service to Guangzhou?

3) Can anyone recommend some bars/clubs that are best to look for 'free' action? I will also do some exploring and post results here from my visit. I see there is a Hard Rock Cafe; wondered if the bar area there is good to try, or other bars. I also wonder about any bars near to some Universities if they might be good to try for luck.

Post here, or PM to me.

Thanks brothers!

Dar


to dar 45


Train is the best way to gz from shenzhen 1 hr , Bus take longer 55 rmb from
lo wu border bus stations ,taxi will cost you more than 300 rmb , Shenzhen shekou bar area near ocean world that isall the expat at all pro andfreelancer go there to meet foreigns .

there are many legit barber shop , I got an hair cut with shampoo at sha tsui
for only 15 rmb , the bbs girl don't how to cut hair just a front , If you want
english speaking girl and don't speak any chinese just go to the ktv like las vegas or the bar at crown plaza .

fast eddie 48

Fast Eddie 48
05-03-06, 21:45
Hello,

I am heading to SZ next month. I am interested to know if there is cheap accomodation available there and what is the cost to get to HK by train or bus daily?

Thanks in advance!


to kangelo

Train from tsim sha tsui east station in kowloon to shenzhen lo wu border cost
about 60 hkd 45 min , bus from hong kong or kowloon cost 45-55 hkd 35-45
min to huang gang border in shenzhen , Hotel in shenzhen is much cheaper than hong kong , lo wu area is more expensive 180-500 rmb a night , there are many hotel in shenzhen , I like to stay at vienna hotel www.szvienna.com
they have hotel in futain , shekou and sha tsui just open 200-260 rmb a night
and 5 min walk to the bbs in sha tsui , hotel is next to carrefour supermarket .


fast eddie 48

OzzieSuds
05-03-06, 23:17
Hello,

I am heading to SZ next month. I am interested to know if there is cheap accomodation available there and what is the cost to get to HK by train or bus daily?

Thanks in advance!Many expats live in Shenzhen Shekou area and commute by ferry. Takes about 1 hr and HK$200 one way.

Several hotels in Shekou including Ming Wah, Nan Hai. Many bars and restaurants catering to foreigners.

But why stay in a hotel in Shenzhen and go to HK every day?

OzzieSuds
05-03-06, 23:31
The fare (HK$200) I gave before is for HKG airport. Think its about half that to central.

Any one know if you can buy multiple trip tickets or even use Octopus card?

DayNight
05-04-06, 02:10
I like to stay at vienna hotel www.szvienna.com
they have hotel........

It should be noted that they also have a hotel next to SZ airport. It's very convenient to make use of early or late flights.

http://www.szvienna.com/hotels2.asp

...and usefull if you go/come from place where sex is expensive.

Soulman
05-04-06, 14:02
Hey guys!

I was plan on getting 6 month multiple entry visa tomorrow, Fri, so I can enjoy the girls in SZ. BUT I was told by hotel concierge in HK that damn visa office is closed all this week to next Mon.

So is it possible to get tourist visa at Huangang, Lowu or Shekou? Couple of years ago this was possible.

Thanks

Phantomtiger2
05-04-06, 18:24
From what Ive read, the 3 ways of getting to Sha Tsui BBS are:
1)taxi
2)bus #63 to last stop
3)kexue Guan subway--- now, anyone know when exit station which direction should I be walking (N<S<E<W)? and if its within walking distance about how far to the action?
Thanks

PT

Superforce99
05-04-06, 18:32
From what Ive read, the 3 ways of getting to Sha Tsui BBS are:
1)taxi
2)bus #63 to last stop
3)kexue Guan subway--- now, anyone know when exit station which direction should I be walking (N<S<E<W)? and if its within walking distance about how far to the action?
Thanks

PT

To clear up some details in your post:

1. correct
2. correct (though there are many buses that terminate at Sandy Lips)
3. incorrect (Kexue Guan Subway leads you to Jusco, there is no subway stop near Sandy Lips)


J

Bill Lee
05-04-06, 18:40
photo of Heaven's Gate

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=444698#post444698

Bill


To Adventur:

Someone had posted a picture of the gateway to Sha Tsui. I previously had printed it and showed it to a cab driver who had no problem finding it. I was there about 2 weeks ago.

Jazziton
05-04-06, 20:13
Hey guys!

I was plan on getting 6 month multiple entry visa tomorrow, Fri, so I can enjoy the girls in SZ. BUT I was told by hotel concierge in HK that damn visa office is closed all this week to next Mon.

So is it possible to get tourist visa at Huangang, Lowu or Shekou? Couple of years ago this was possible.

Thanks

Dear Soulman,

Sorry to hear you got delayed in your travelplans due to public holiday in Hong Kong. But the Visa office at the Lo Wu boarder should be able to issue you a Shenzhen visitors visa, unless you are a US citizen, wheras there might be some problems with that issue. Anyway, visitors visa for Shenzhen is still possible to get at the border. As far as I recall the "visa" should be valid for 5days and remember it is for Shenzhen area only, since it is issued by the Guangdong provice, Shenzhen city Gong An/Security Bureau. Basicly, after you have obtained the visa, you could move around Guandong and all over China, as long they don't check your document and you get out of China via Shenzhen again, within the given time, although this is not recommended.

The visa office is located up one level right after crossing the brigde from Hong Kong immigration. Althoug holiday in Hong Kong, this visa office is open. Another option you might go for, could be to visit any of the China Travel Services branches and see if they can arrange a "express" visa for you.

Good luck and have fun in SZ.

I might got some time to hook up next week if you are still in SZ or CP.

Jazziton

Phantomtiger2
05-04-06, 21:55
To clear up some details in your post:

1. correct
2. correct (though there are many buses that terminate at Sandy Lips)
3. incorrect (Kexue Guan Subway leads you to Jusco, there is no subway stop near Sandy Lips)


J


Hmm, I think you are right about this. After reading thru almost 8 months and what seems like hundreds of post I may have combined the details for the 2 places.(Jusco and Sha Tsui)

As I have never been to this part of South China (been to HK only), how do the taxi normally charge you here, is it by meter (if they have one?) or is it a negotiated price to destination.
Also what would be the normal prices for a trip across/ or out of town (longer trip to airport) and for shorter trips (hotel to BBS) as I dont plan to be ripped off with an unwanted sightseeing taxi ride around the city.
As I also intend to visit GZ and CP, if taxi structure differs in these places, please let me know.

Thanks

PT

Soulman
05-04-06, 22:35
Thanks a lot for the detail info.

Unfortunately, I'm US citizen...

Cheers


Dear Soulman,

Sorry to hear you got delayed in your travelplans due to public holiday in Hong Kong. But the Visa office at the Lo Wu boarder should be able to issue you a Shenzhen visitors visa, unless you are a US citizen, wheras there might be some problems with that issue. Anyway, visitors visa for Shenzhen is still possible to get at the border. As far as I recall the "visa" should be valid for 5days and remember it is for Shenzhen area only, since it is issued by the Guangdong provice, Shenzhen city Gong An/Security Bureau. Basicly, after you have obtained the visa, you could move around Guandong and all over China, as long they don't check your document and you get out of China via Shenzhen again, within the given time, although this is not recommended.

The visa office is located up one level right after crossing the brigde from Hong Kong immigration. Althoug holiday in Hong Kong, this visa office is open. Another option you might go for, could be to visit any of the China Travel Services branches and see if they can arrange a "express" visa for you.

Good luck and have fun in SZ.

I might got some time to hook up next week if you are still in SZ or CP.

Jazziton

Fast Eddie 48
05-04-06, 22:36
Hmm, I think you are right about this. After reading thru almost 8 months and what seems like hundreds of post I may have combined the details for the 2 places.(Jusco and Sha Tsui)

As I have never been to this part of South China (been to HK only), how do the taxi normally charge you here, is it by meter (if they have one?) or is it a negotiated price to destination.
Also what would be the normal prices for a trip across/ or out of town (longer trip to airport) and for shorter trips (hotel to BBS) as I dont plan to be ripped off with an unwanted sightseeing taxi ride around the city.
As I also intend to visit GZ and CP, if taxi structure differs in these places, please let me know.

Thanks

PT


to phantom tiger

Taxi in shenzhen is cheaper than hong kong , jusco to sha tsui 25 rmb take
about 15 min , Shenzhen is a big city bus or subway is better for longer trip
system is not as good as hong kong , For cp or guangzhou trip is better to
take the train 60-80 rmb taxi will cost over 250 -350 rmb .

CP taxi have no meter it is a small town most trip is only 15 rmb is a van or
moto bike 5 rmb , most shenzhen and gz taxi have meter very cheap but most
driver speak no english .


fast eddie 48

Kagelo
05-04-06, 23:39
to kangelo

Train from tsim sha tsui east station in kowloon to shenzhen lo wu border cost
about 60 hkd 45 min , bus from hong kong or kowloon cost 45-55 hkd 35-45
min to huang gang border in shenzhen , Hotel in shenzhen is much cheaper than hong kong , lo wu area is more expensive 180-500 rmb a night , there are many hotel in shenzhen , I like to stay at vienna hotel www.szvienna.com
they have hotel in futain , shekou and sha tsui just open 200-260 rmb a night
and 5 min walk to the bbs in sha tsui , hotel is next to carrefour supermarket .

Fast eddie 48Thanks mate,you are really FAST!

Dodgy Fellow
05-06-06, 10:44
Yojnei> thanks for the info. Informative,

Well, if Jusco is not particularly wise at this moment, I might suggest a place that is just about the same distance from the Diwang building as Jusco is. I do not know what the name of the urban village (cun) is but the directions from Diwang are:

--Walk up Baoan lu about 600 meters and take a right at the third street, Hongli lu.

--So, walking east, go one hundred meters and turn left (north) at the traditional Chinese stone village pillared gate.

--In the north-south side alley just to the left (west) of the village's main alley/street are about 5 shops.

I thought the quality of the young ladies was good. At this one place, the only place I enquired at, Mamasan started out with 150 rmb and I did not haggle. The gals at the place ranged from 18-25 according to the young lady I had and she was nice, if inexperienced, and the mamasan called up after an hour.

Try it out and give me some thoughts.I was at Dongmen last night, so I decided to check this place out. As mentioned, you can find this cun by going northwards on Baoli Rd. till you reach Honggui Rd. Turn right on Honggui and keep walking till you find the Chinese-style arch that's the entrance to this urban village. The BBS are all on one side of the area.

At first I wasn't sure if I'd actually use any of the girls there; for all I know I could end up having the cops on my ass. But I found a girl who resembled the sister of a friend of mine. She was also wearing glasses - I think she's only one of two or three working girls there who wear them.

To make a long story short, I chose her. BBBJ and FS for 150 RMB. No French kissing, but the BBBJ made up for it. I did most of the work, but I was in the mood to be on top last night, so I can't say if she is a dead fish. I wasn't complaining at the time.

I think you can also find some service at Guiyuan Rd; there's a few sauna/massage places there, though I didn't have time to check. It's the street intersecting with Jiefang Rd. You can find it by going to Dongmen from the Diwang Building via Jiefang Rd.

Diver69
05-06-06, 19:30
Just wondering if anyone can recommend good hotels in the SZ and DG areas?

Last year when I was in SZ, I stayed at Vienna in Futian. Nice hotel. I think I paid around 200 RMB per night. Does anyone have any similar hotels (same price range and standards) to suggest?

I did not stay in DongGuan last year, but we spent a few hours there at the YaLan Hotel. Great location for the shops there. Any other recommendation for DG?

Does anyone else find the beds in Vienna and YaLan too hard? I almost scrapped the skin off my knees when I was doing the deed with the girls...

Cheers.

Diver

Khanaan
05-10-06, 04:27
Hi there Diver..
Try the lido hotel . They charge around 270 rmb.. I am staying there in 2 weeks time for 2 days . Meeting kimberley who i usually see when i go to china on business..Its a 3star nice clean rooms , just make sure you tip the floor porter well then you'll get lots of extra towels.. Good luck tell us how you get on.

OldAsiaHand
05-10-06, 05:28
Diver69,

If you want to move up a notch, try the Grand Holiday in SZ (<400) and the Miraton (<300) in CP. Both include a buffet breakfast.

OAH



Just wondering if anyone can recommend good hotels in the SZ and DG areas?

Last year when I was in SZ, I stayed at Vienna in Futian. Nice hotel. I think I paid around 200 RMB per night. Does anyone have any similar hotels (same price range and standards) to suggest?

I did not stay in DongGuan last year, but we spent a few hours there at the YaLan Hotel. Great location for the shops there. Any other recommendation for DG?

Does anyone else find the beds in Vienna and YaLan too hard? I almost scrapped the skin off my knees when I was doing the deed with the girls...

Cheers.

Diver

Playboy2000
05-10-06, 16:46
Hello all you SZ experts,

I have read through the forum...have a generally idea of what is going on...but could still really use some help.

I will be there for a few days. I do not speak any Cantonese or Mandarin and am caucasian. I think I may stay at the Hilton, since it seems to centrally located. (Any other recommendations?)

I would like to find a very attractive Chinese (18-22, 34b, thin, pretty) for LT. I am hoping to find one that does fire/ice as well as F/S. For all this, I'd like to pay less than US$150. From what I gather, the KTVs in the Hilton is too expensive.

I'd appreciate any advice you might be able to give. Should I hunt for such a girl in a BBS? On the street? With one of the pimps in front of the hotels? Keep in mind that I only speak English.

Race

ManonsanBoy
05-12-06, 00:13
JUSCO looks very reachable just walking from LoHu station. Any experience and any recent experience there?

Bob Builder
05-12-06, 01:41
JUSCO looks very reachable just walking from LoHu station. Any experience and any recent experience there?

I think you better check the scale on you map, cause in 30+ heat, I don't see you in any shape for any action after walking to Jusco unless you happen to be into running marathons.

Dar425
05-12-06, 02:03
Manonsan, I was at Jusco yesterday.

First, props to Westex to describe where to walk to find the BBS shops. I could not access ISG from my Shenzhen hotel, so I made a guess (wrong guess Dar baby!!). I was feeling like Santa did not bring to me any gift, but then I went to world.altavista.com and asked it to read the ISG website, and BAM! it worked. Westex's directions helped me to find the BBSs near to Jusco.

Overall, the Jusco/CITIC BBS's were NOT easy to find for this gwai-loh, but mission complete.

I was at Jusco about 22:00. There were a number of BBSs... but I was expecting a crazy circus of shops... but the shops seemed spread out from each other. So, I think there is BBS action, but not at it's peak, because you guys make it sound like wall-to-wall BBS.

I picked up a Nanning girl, 18yo. I will post photos of her god-given gorgous body later (probably her father is ugly, but a hot mommy!!? heh!). I thought she might be from Burma or India because of her look. Big natural perky boobs, very brown skin, 'diamond' nose jewel. Long2 Ying2-Ying2 is her name, so she told me. I have her mobile. I never call the mobile though.

I had her until 08:00 at my LuoHu hotel. She might be new, I don't know, because she did NOT know how to BJ, but I had fun to teach her. A really good screwing though, and guys -- SHE IS A SQUIRTER, damn !!! I used my mouth and fingers on her and GUSH GUSH, holy shit Batman -- lucky there was our shower towel under her by coincidence otherwise she would have to sleep on that wet spot. For our 3rd time, she almost went bareback but I stopped her before she did it.

Other news. Hua Li Wen Dao road in LuoHu. My 1st night in Shenzhen I did not arrive until late. It is 03:00am and Dar's chubber is chubbing for a Xiaojie, and i don't know where Justco/CITC is.... Taxi man took me to a SW street in LuoHu named "Hua Li Wen Dao" Road. I picked up a 20yo girl, said she was from near to MaoMing city (Guangdong). 250 RMB to be with me until 12:00/Noon. I will post photos of her later when I make them 640 size.

Dar

LoveAsia
05-12-06, 03:00
Race Track,

I felt the urge to flame you but before I did I decided to read your prior posts. Even though most of your posts were asking for info on different boards (rather than your RTFF) you did give some good reports about HK.

I would be careful looking for a LT when arriving in SZ. Whether it is a girl from a BBS, on the street or one of the pimps it is a potentially dangerous situation. I would recommend going to a higher end massage place..choose a massage girl that you find attractive, and do your best to flirt with her during the massage. I recommended you learn some basic phrases. After the massage ask the girl for her mobile number (show her your mobile phone). You can also ask her out to eat.

If you want more advice or places to go you can PM me.

LA

LoveAsia
05-12-06, 03:04
JUSCO looks very reachable just walking from LoHu station. Any experience and any recent experience there?

Hop the train..it is much easier and cooler. If you get on at LoHu it is just 4 stops away to Jusco. If you know where you are walking it could take you 30-45 minutes to walk to Jusco from LoHu.

Csun213
05-12-06, 06:07
I was just at Jusco with another friend when a group of Police came and closed down the shops. They did not arrest the girls nor the momies however they did pull the metal doors down and put a couple of government tapes on each of the shops. I asked someone and they said that no one except for the police can remove the government tapes so I guess Jusco is closed for now. I will check on it in a couple of days to see if they are operating again.

Fast Eddie 48
05-12-06, 07:06
JUSCO looks very reachable just walking from LoHu station. Any experience and any recent experience there?


to manonsan boy

No way it will take over one hr to walk the distance by the time you get there
you will have no energy to do any thing , just take the bus or taxi


fast eddie 48

Savannah
05-13-06, 10:13
I stayed at La waterfront hotel for 530 a night. It was inflated due to the holiday. Of course it rained, so I spent most if the time in the room. Luckily I brought a friend. As a report on the area, I would not recommend it for mongering or anything else. For people who like beaches it may be nice if you are desperate and can't get to Hainan or Thailand. I saw nothing that looked like a SW, FS sauna, or BBS. I also saw no police presence.

I did not check out Xiaomeisha. I wanted to taxi up the road a bit, but it was always raining.

Just a report,
Savannah

Phantomtiger2
05-13-06, 18:55
JUSCO looks very reachable just walking from LoHu station. Any experience and any recent experience there?


As i've been informed earlier, I think you should be using Kexuan Guan station as this is closer to Jusco.

Moody
05-13-06, 21:50
I stayed at La waterfront hotel for 530 a night. It was inflated due to the holiday. Of course it rained, so I spent most if the time in the room. Luckily I brought a friend. As a report on the area, I would not recommend it for mongering or anything else. For people who like beaches it may be nice if you are desperate and can't get to Hainan or Thailand. I saw nothing that looked like a SW, FS sauna, or BBS. I also saw no police presence.

I did not check out Xiaomeisha. I wanted to taxi up the road a bit, but it was always raining.

Just a report,
Savannah

Man, I haven't been to that part of the city in years.... Too much time in Futian lately I guess. Anyway, there are opportunities to be had. At the Airland hotel right next door, you can go to the sauna and order a massage to your room. I'm sure the girls would be willing to go next door. Anyway, the price back then was 400 yuan. Don't know if it's changed or what. If you're willing to go down to Xiaomeisha, there's a couple of KTVs there in the 3 star hotels near the beach. The KTVs are pretty crappy compared to places like Golden Times, but they do have the occasional stunner. All night should be 800 RMB. Back in my heyday, when I used to get bored, I'd get a room and get like 5 girls and then take them all back to my hotel at 2 in the morning.

Superforce99
05-14-06, 15:35
...Back in my heyday, when I used to get bored, I'd get a room and get like 5 girls and then take them all back to my hotel at 2 in the morning.

Ha ha...damn, what is it now? Get 10 girls and bring them back to the hotel at 3:30am?

Did you end up trying that Taco Bell restaurant in the MixC mall? I never had a chance...anyway, hope everything is going well for you.


J

Erik
05-14-06, 22:37
How much is a room at Luohu hotel, please ?

Petemcc
05-15-06, 05:23
Forgive me if the answer has already been given, but I would like to know if the Haitou Hotel in Shekhou is girl friendly?

There are plenty of references to the high end hotels and their policies, like that other one in Shekhou, Nan Hai, but not much mention of budget hotels.

I do expect some smart arsed comments, but every 50 bucks saved on a hotel room is money than can be spent on girls.

I would appreciate an answer if someone knows it!

Thanks

Dr Robert
05-15-06, 13:28
There is a hotel along a main street in this part of town with a Karaoke floor and a fine set of ladies on another floor. I think Xi is part of the name. Anyone know it?

Anything new in the Jui Hua area for fun in June?

Tiger 888
05-16-06, 05:52
Bringing a girl into Haitao hotel is no problem. There are much cheaper decent hotels in downtown Shekou, 15rmb by taxi away though. All girl friendly. PM me for a namecard.

OldAsiaHand
05-16-06, 06:10
Was in Sha Tsui last night with a couple of mongering mates. It was business as usual. No evidence of any crackdown whatsoever. I took a tall (176 cm) Dongbei girl. I reckon she was 8+ in looks, but her rack was a bit small for my taste. Except for insisting on CBJ, the service was pretty good. She had wide hips and I enjoyed doing her doggy.

OAH

Peter Eastwest
05-16-06, 07:38
HaiTou is girl-friendly. It couldn't be anything else since it is surrounded on three sides by the girlie bars which are full of ST and LT girls?

But if you stay there, why not stay at NanHai just 2 minutes walk away? You can negotiate a really good rate there - incl breakfast - so the price difference is minimal, and it's worth the difference for the extra comfort and security.

And you won't get the "boom-boom" of music from the near-by bars all night. Only the "boom-boom" that you make with the girls..


PE




Forgive me if the answer has already been given, but I would like to know if the Haitou Hotel in Shekhou is girl friendly?

There are plenty of references to the high end hotels and their policies, like that other one in Shekhou, Nan Hai, but not much mention of budget hotels.

I do expect some smart arsed comments, but every 50 bucks saved on a hotel room is money than can be spent on girls.

I would appreciate an answer if someone knows it!

Thanks

Petemcc
05-16-06, 11:46
Peter East West. Thanks mate, but the cheapest internet rate I can find for the Nanhai is over 100 US a night. I am looking at 30 US max! We are coming from Australia where we get paid 2/3 of 4/5 of fuck all, unless you know a way we can get the Nanhai cheaper?

Honestly, I value your comments, just we are doing China on a budget, even teh girls, talking about 150RMB BBS girls as opposed to 1000+ RMB KTV girls! We have people in China who can do things for us, if locals get cheaper rates than internet sites, so please, let me know if this is possible!

Bnlee2
05-16-06, 17:32
oah

thanks for the report. i have heard the same from colleagues too. it is one of my fav places to have fun. abundant of girls and good prices.




Was in Sha Tsui last night with a couple of mongering mates. It was business as usual. No evidence of any crackdown whatsoever. I took a tall (176 cm) Dongbei girl. I reckon she was 8+ in looks, but her rack was a bit small for my taste. Except for insisting on CBJ, the service was pretty good. She had wide hips and I enjoyed doing her doggy.

OAH

Moody
05-17-06, 05:58
Peter East West. Thanks mate, but the cheapest internet rate I can find for the Nanhai is over 100 US a night. I am looking at 30 US max! We are coming from Australia where we get paid 2/3 of 4/5 of fuck all, unless you know a way we can get the Nanhai cheaper?

Honestly, I value your comments, just we are doing China on a budget, even teh girls, talking about 150RMB BBS girls as opposed to 1000+ RMB KTV girls! We have people in China who can do things for us, if locals get cheaper rates than internet sites, so please, let me know if this is possible!

A couple of comments.... First, unless you have business there or like the beach, why stay in Shekou? It's far from everything except the expat hangout bars which are full of over the hill former BBS or KTV girls.

Second, you can get much better hotel rates by just calling up or appearing in person. Posted rates are very high at almost all hotels, but you can negotiate much better rates by callilng and even better than that if you appear in person. If you know someone who has business there, you can also try to negotiate a company discount rate. Lastly, if the hotel has a KTV or sauna, you can try to get the entertainment manager to set up a reservation too. I've stayed at a couple dozen hotels in the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Dongguan area and except for one time at the China Hotel during the Canton Fair, I've never payed more than 560RMB and that includes the very fine Sheraton in Dongguan.

Peter Eastwest
05-17-06, 07:53
I get my local agent to book NanHai. The usual price I pay is RMB350 discount rate but for this I get the superior room to the front that it usually will cost maybe 700 per night. (Of course if the hotel is full booked there are no room upgrades, so I have the room at the back with the waterfall. Still okay but I prefer the front room with beach view.)

And I get the free breakfast. I also often invite my "overnight guest" to breakfast also and just smile to the waitress or waiter if they ask for a coupon and they just shrug and say okay.

Pete
PS And you get also the one free welcome drink in the downstairs bar each evening. Nice to start the evening there with a free Tsingtao, take a look at the old ugly hoookers in the hotel bar before going out to pick up some fresh young thing nearby. Hehehe!



Peter East West. Thanks mate, but the cheapest internet rate I can find for the Nanhai is over 100 US a night. I am looking at 30 US max! We are coming from Australia where we get paid 2/3 of 4/5 of fuck all, unless you know a way we can get the Nanhai cheaper?

Honestly, I value your comments, just we are doing China on a budget, even teh girls, talking about 150RMB BBS girls as opposed to 1000+ RMB KTV girls! We have people in China who can do things for us, if locals get cheaper rates than internet sites, so please, let me know if this is possible!

Savannah
05-17-06, 09:16
Try the Hedong hotel just off shennan lu. It is across from the mixC mall. It is a girlfriendly 3 star. I think you can find them on Ctrip or Elong. They have 208 and 238 rates. There is not much to the hotel, but it is in a great location. This is in the luohu area. Jusco is a 12 yuan taxi ride away or take the subway to Ke Xue Guan( I don't know if that spelling is right). In another post you spoke of only wanting very beautiful women. I think you won't find many in Shekou. However, there are many beautiful freebies available in Luohu and Futian areas. If you have enough time, that is.

Erik
05-17-06, 13:36
I went onto a website calldes something as QQ-zone-love to date girls. I found two posts with photos, whose message was very straight : "I am not looking for a boyfriend, just looking for a job in futian district. Can you help me ? If you can't please don't contact me."
Do you think that is a hidden call for customers ? Is Futian a red light zone ?
Thanks your advise.

Moody
05-17-06, 15:25
Ha ha...damn, what is it now? Get 10 girls and bring them back to the hotel at 3:30am?

Did you end up trying that Taco Bell restaurant in the MixC mall? I never had a chance...anyway, hope everything is going well for you.


J

Nah, too old now... Nowadays, my idea of a wild time is to get 2 girls at a sauna in Dongguan.. ;-)

As for Taco Bell, I did try it out.... Have to say, was mildly disappointed... Was expecting the typical Taco Bell with Chalupas and tacos.... not some nouveau yuppie joint with mediocre fajitas....

Moody
05-18-06, 03:21
I went onto a website calldes something as QQ-zone-love to date girls. I found two posts with photos, whose message was very straight : "I am not looking for a boyfriend, just looking for a job in futian district. Can you help me ? If you can't please don't contact me."
Do you think that is a hidden call for customers ? Is Futian a red light zone ?
Thanks your advise.

Futian is one of the main areas of Shenzhen, the others being Yantian, Nanshan, Shekou, Baoan, and one other whose name escapes me at the moment. It's not a red light zone. That would be like saying Kowloon in Hong Kong is a red light zone. It's a big place. That's not saying there are no red light zones in Futian, just that if you ask a cabbie to take you to Futian, he'll ask you WHERE in Futian. Futian currently houses the new convention center, the new city hall and a bunch of other new places soon to be built including another Shangri-La Hotel.

As for whether the post is a call for customers... very doubtful. She's probably just looking for a job in Futian.

Clitlover
05-18-06, 09:09
I'm going to HK for a week next week. I am thinking of making day trip to SZ. Do you guys think its possible to go in the morning and return in the evening and squiz in some massage and BJ in the afternoon.

Is Jusco and Sha Tsui areas near the border with HK? What is BBS? are they massage place disguise as barbershop? what are the services offered in BBS and what is the going rate? Can I choose the girls?

I'm an overseas chinese and do speak mandarin and cantonese.

Thanks alot.

Rickyeoh99
05-19-06, 01:35
Futian is one of the main areas of Shenzhen, the others being Yantian, Nanshan, Shekou, Baoan, and one other whose name escapes me at the moment. It's not a red light zone. That would be like saying Kowloon in Hong Kong is a red light zone. It's a big place. That's not saying there are no red light zones in Futian, just that if you ask a cabbie to take you to Futian, he'll ask you WHERE in Futian. Futian currently houses the new convention center, the new city hall and a bunch of other new places soon to be built including another Shangri-La Hotel.

As for whether the post is a call for customers... very doubtful. She's probably just looking for a job in Futian.

I think you missed Louhu. On Futian, I heard that the area surrounding the new Shangri-La Hotel will be the new financial centre for SZ.

By the way, how are you, my friend?

Acer V
05-19-06, 05:49
It is quite possible to head up and back in one day. Many of the local punters do it often. You might have a problem with getting oriented if it is your first trip. It helps that you are a chinese speaker. The taxi drivers are mostly pretty knowledgeable.

My favorite mode of transport is the bus which leaves Wanchai ferry pier in Hong Kong and takes you to the Lok Ma Chau border, where you alight and pass through Hong Kong immigration. Then get back on the bus and go to the China immigration at Huanggang. You then can catch a taxi on the other side of the china border. There are many bus services from different areas of Hong Kong to the Huanggang border.

Sha Tsui and Jusco areas are both within a 15 minute taxi ride from this border crossing. They are about the same from the Louhu boarder, maybe a bit longer.

BBS is a disquised barbershop, correct. Most of them in Shenzhen are filthy rat-holes so don't expect luxury. Most everything is on offer and yes you can usually choose the girl. Going rates are RMB 120 to 150 but they will try to extract more.

Love the name BTW. I fancy clits also!

Clitlover
05-19-06, 08:59
Thanks Acer for the info.

Do they have rooms in the BBS? And what is the exchange rate with HK dollar and RMB?

I'm going with my wife to hK as she is having her corporate training in HK. I'm thinking of going to SZ during the day when she is having her training.

ManonsanBoy
05-19-06, 10:24
Is there a crack down at Sha Tsui? I have tried ringing my mamasan but no answer.

Moody
05-19-06, 23:10
I think you missed Louhu. On Futian, I heard that the area surrounding the new Shangri-La Hotel will be the new financial centre for SZ.

By the way, how are you, my friend?

Oh yeah..... Luohu... the center of town... LOL...

Ricky, I'm good. In the process of planning my next trip over. Was originally planning end of this month, but looks like I'm gonna be delayed... have some stuff to take care of before I leave. I'll probably be in China around the first or second week of June. If you're in town, let me know. I hope everything's good with you. :D

MpfsLover
05-20-06, 06:29
Clitlover,

Plan on 1.5 hrs for each way if you plan to take the metro and train to SZ.
I used to take day trips regularly from HK island. Immigration takes some time also.

mpfslover



Thanks Acer for the info.

Do they have rooms in the BBS? And what is the exchange rate with HK dollar and RMB?

I'm going with my wife to hK as she is having her corporate training in HK. I'm thinking of going to SZ during the day when she is having her training.

Weelock
05-22-06, 07:07
Is there a crack down at Sha Tsui? I have tried ringing my mamasan but no answer.

I would like to know too since I'm heading to Shenzhen ( Sha Tsui ) next week. It might be an overflow ( crack down ) of the Jusco killing last month.

Weelock

The Wanderer
05-22-06, 13:30
I'm going to HK for a week next week. I am thinking of making day trip to SZ. Do you guys think its possible to go in the morning and return in the evening and squiz in some massage and BJ in the afternoon.

Is Jusco and Sha Tsui areas near the border with HK? What is BBS? are they massage place disguise as barbershop? what are the services offered in BBS and what is the going rate? Can I choose the girls?

I'm an overseas chinese and do speak mandarin and cantonese.

Thanks alot.You might want to stop in HK if time is short. Check out the 141/161 links and the HK forum.

TangZhen
05-23-06, 08:19
Is there a crack down at Sha Tsui? I have tried ringing my mamasan but no answer.

ShaZui was normal when I was there 3 days ago. I have not been to Jusco lately as SZ is much easier for me to get to.

Bob Builder
05-23-06, 08:37
Is there a crack down at Sha Tsui? I have tried ringing my mamasan but no answer.

Or

- she has changed her prepay card as gals do that more in China that changing their underpants
- her phone was stolen
- she has been arrested for playing majong at an illegal gambling den


Think about it...if there was a crackdown, she is more likely to keep the phone on in the case of mongers ordering takeout.

Manfest
05-25-06, 01:28
I made my first trip to SZN last week; and, thanks to the previous posts and all the contributors, had a pretty good time. We stand on the shoulders of all who came before, so I hope to make my small contributions as I am able.

First, as a way of introducing myself, I am Korean-American and can therefore be mistaken for a local. I don't, however, speak a word of Mandarin. I picked up useful phrases from guidebooks, and numbers such as "yibai wu" (150), but not much else. Also, as I am on the adventurous side, and a reasonably experienced/careful traveller, I went around alone.

Second, due to some crime in the Jusco area as mentioned on previous posts, and a recent national holiday, I understood mongerers needed to be extra careful. I, therefore looked around Jusco, but did not see much. Instead, I walked over to area around the Diwan building and Dongmen. In case you want to find it, I'll repeat with additional details. But please be sure to read my little warning below before venturing there. Travelling from the Laojie metro stop, exit through "A" and turn right. This seems a major street until you get to the Diwang building. You can find pictures of this on various websites, but essentially it is the tallest building in SZN with a tower-like structure on top. With that building across the street from you, turn right onto Baoali. Go three street to Hongui, and turn right. As you walk down the left side of this street, you will see Chinese stone pillars marking the entrance to this area. The whole track from the metro took 25 minutes. The BBS are on the street parallel to the main street on the left, as well as the alleyways.

My warning: There were several uniformed "police" walking around, by my count 12. This is not that big an area! And, there are cameras looking down most/all of these alleys!

I quickly found a nice large breasted, decent looking temporary girlfriend, agreed on the quoted 150 without negotiating, and went upstairs. The room was very basic and on the dirty side, but I wasn't there really for the decor. The service was ok, with me doing half the work on top, and switching to reverse cowboy. Overall pretty enjoyable, and the breasts jumping up and down made the whole thing worthwhile!

Afterwards a quick shower and I left myself, I think for security reasons. I looked out the gated doors for any signs of LE, then left the area quickly. On the way out, passed the same dozen or so LE.

Overall, not the best but pretty enjoyable. And, now that I can think clearly, suspect it was a somewhat dangerous situation that my "little friend" made me jump into.

I left and went to Macau afterwards, which was eually fun but in a different way. Will post on that thread if anyone is interested.

TangZhen
05-29-06, 14:36
I went by Jusco area today and can report that it is business as usual. In fact I asked a couple of girls who said there was no 'yan da' and that the drop in girls was the normal 'wu yi' vacation. In fact one of my fav just got back a couple of days ago. She had not herd of any death in the area, and doubted there was one, or she said she would have herd.

Even though it was in the newspaper out of Hong Kong I believe the original report was, it could or could not be true. Many times reports are made for other reasons than spreading actual facts about events.

By the way, the sex was quite good, but it would have been better if I had seen my fav girl first, as she is not the hotest looking, but wow is she good in bed, and she really does love sex. But she is lousy at MaJang and lost 300RMB last night.

Old Mean Dog
05-30-06, 09:50
Ni-hao,

I have just joined this site as a full blown paying member! I am an American that has been an expat in Shenzhen for 5 months now. I guess I have been steered away from the "fun zones" by my girlfriend, but I am really wanting to have a go at it. I have some experience with BBS back in Suzhou, during my month stay, but have yet to try the Shenzhen locals. Maybe if there is some seasoned experts here that have the time to show me around, it would be greatly appreciated.

TangZhen
05-31-06, 04:13
In my opinion it is not that hard. Just go to Zhong Xin Guang Cheng and go to the back side, cross the street, and turn left to cross the street at the 'T', Go to the back of that block of buildings and go give a look. Make a plan not to buy the 1st time, only take a look, walk slowly and I am sure you can figure out what to do. You know the price schedule, just remember to confirm it down stairs. More shops are open later in the day, but I saw a nice hottie there are 10AM the other day. PM me and I think I can come up with a satelite photo. It is not real rocket science, though some Chinese skills are a real plus for good service.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=22.5406,114.094



Maybe if there is some seasoned experts here that have the time to show me around, it would be greatly appreciated.

Old Mean Dog
05-31-06, 05:33
I appreciate the information, but I'm sure there's more to Shenzhen, which has 11 million people, than that area. I will certainly checkout the Jusco BBS, just seems that your gonna bump into a lot of laowai there if thats the ONLY place in town.

Cappy
06-01-06, 01:36
Hello Szexpat - and welcome.

TangZhen has give you perfect information.
Yes, of course there's much more to Shenzhen than just Jusco.
Please just start reading back through this detailed and highly valued thread and soon enough you'll learn of Fuxing Lu Wal-Mart, Sha Tsui, etc.

Start by taking a cab to Jusco, follow TangZhen's directions, TOFTT.
Please post your experiences and report back to us. We are here to help

Cappy Out



I appreciate the information, but I'm sure there's more to Shenzhen, which has 11 million people, than that area. I will certainly checkout the Jusco BBS, just seems that your gonna bump into a lot of laowai there if thats the ONLY place in town.

Old Mean Dog
06-01-06, 10:02
I was attempting to scout out the Jusco BBS today, but decided to stop for some java first at the King Glory Plaza Starbucks, this is where I ran into this little cutie. She's 26, from Hunan, more than a handful in the chest department, fatter ass than most Chinese girls, excellent English skills and loves laowai, especially American. Had a traditional mat bed that made my back hurt like hell, but can't complain too much as it was a freebie.

Old Mean Dog
06-01-06, 16:31
I was over by the old Hilton Hotel on Dongmen Liu this evening and wanted to report that across the street in front of the Sunshine Hotel was some Grade A, Top Shelf Working Girls soliciting their wares. Probably some of the best I've seen here and I live smack dab in downtown Luohu. I didn't get a price but will be going back Saturday night to find out, they were there at 9 pm but gone when I rolled back at 11. Since the Hilton sold out, seems to be more hens and roosters in the area.

TangZhen
06-02-06, 04:41
Of course there are many other places as Cappy pointed out. In fact I have only recently returned to Jusco after an absence of 8 months or so, and initially it was just to check out the report that the area was closed due to a crime (which appears to be not true). Frankly I tend to go to ShaZui, but my tastes change from time to time.

In fact there are hundreds of locations to find sex. I used to like to go to shops where it was a 50/50 chance of FS and see what I could get. Makes it kind of interesting. These are the small local shops in every district, the girls are a bit shocked by waiguo guys, which can be fun.

One note about freebe's is that I tend (but not always avoid them). I have had fun times, also had trouble when they want more (despite what they initially said). For me, just not worth it, but if you are looking for more with a girl, go for it. Just remember to aim high.


seems that your gonna bump into a lot of laowai there if thats the ONLY place in town.

Sinnatic
06-04-06, 05:46
I am a CBC (Chinese Born Canadian) who is now on a business trip in Hong Kong. I have done quite a bit of 141 scene as well as SW in Hong Kong, and now I am looking north to the border for some fun.

I am planning a day trip so I can have multiple shots to maximize my spending - brothers: please let me know if my plan is realistic.

1. Leave HK from TST to Luohu by Train (2pm)
2. Arrive at SZ - take cab to Jusco for some BBS (3:30pm)
3. Cab to some Health Centre that give me a long massage + a HJ + a meal (is there some places that you can recommend?) (4:30pm)
4. Cab to Shazhui for some more BBS actions. (8:30pm)
5. Cab to WanGang and back to HK - then a minibus to Mongkok (10pm).

Does that iteninary make sense? Are those cab rides going to be expensive?

I don't mind to go with someone but I simply don't have any real life friends who like to monger. If any brother is interested to go together from HK, please let me know by PM.

I am heading out next weekend 9th / 10th June... either Sat / Sun. We can even catch the World Cup afterwards!

Old Mean Dog
06-04-06, 16:57
There was approx. 20 hens between the Hilton and the Fu Rong Hotel on Saturday night, 15 would be "top shelf", while 5 were the local farm "ugly as sin" girls. Prices range from 200 to 600 yuan without bartering. The scan is a calling card of a "hottie" I found outside the Hilton, she is a massage girl, just turned pro (300 yuan w/o bartering), no English except for "hello" and "massagie". There are 2 "high class hotties" that work the area I will try to tag team next weekend and attempt to get photos.

Ace Gallant
06-05-06, 18:11
There was approx. 20 hens between the Hilton and the Fu Rong Hotel on Saturday night, 15 would be "top shelf", while 5 were the local farm "ugly as sin" girls. Prices range from 200 to 600 yuan without bartering. The scan is a calling card of a "hottie" I found outside the Hilton, she is a massage girl, just turned pro (300 yuan w/o bartering), no English except for "hello" and "massagie". There are 2 "high class hotties" that work the area I will try to tag team next weekend and attempt to get photos.

Call me stupid but the card says that the person is a Chinese Female Doctor!

What a over rated designation for a Massage girl!

AG

Old Mean Dog
06-06-06, 04:15
Not sure if these CC's are useful to anyone, I have never tried them.

Maybe someone is interested in dining in rather than going out.

Erik
06-06-06, 21:20
This card is more explicite than the ones distributed in Chonggqing.
If I am not mistaken, the bare breast girl on the right is the Japanese porn actress Coccolo. Do you think she is for sale in Shenzhen ?

Mark Mason
06-07-06, 03:44
Found this photo showing the type of service you can get at any Fujian style massage place. This one is in Shenzhen near the pink high rises opposite the Shangrila Hotel.

The deal is 35 RMB per hour (45 min), if you book for 2 hours they will wash your dick using nice spoapy water. The girls are all young and attractive and well skilled. They take their time and do not just try to get you to finish in the shortest possible time. The girls usually wear some sort of uniform. Usually that is all you can get at such places. There is no need to tip.

Savannah
06-07-06, 06:14
Next time I get off the train I'll get my dick washed first. If anyone has information about Japanese porn stars working in SZ, please don't hesitate to report it.

After mongering in Changping, SZ is just not the same. I found the Jusco area, but did not see anything I liked. Also, went to the small area behind the MixC mall again. Quality was a little low. I found one I liked but she did not want to go with a foreigner. Anyway, my GF took good care of me saturday and sunday, so I guess I just wasn't into it on Monday.

I would like to make a proposal to men in China who have GFs here. Please buy them a pair of Levi's. We need to get rid of these Chinese Jeans. No wonder so many people say Chinese women have no ass. I bought my GF a pair of ladies 561s, best 600rmb I have spent in China. Not only do they look great on her, but she tired me out with all the physical thank yous.

Old Mean Dog
06-08-06, 14:53
I found this "babyback" over by the Fu Rong Hotel. She has an amazing body, big chest (seems natural and firm), tight ass, small trimmed bush and fancy painted toenails. 300 yuan, w/o bartering, it was raining like hell and I didn't feel like haggling. She would not allow me to take any nude or action photos, I'll give it another go real soon.

Open to Explore
06-09-06, 06:41
Firstly, sorry about this but does anyone know the way to get cheapest air ticket from SZ to Beijing ?

DayNight
06-09-06, 06:51
Firstly, sorry about this but does anyone know the way to get cheapest air ticket from SZ to Beijing ?

Check elong or ctrip. Or check your daily chinese newspaper. They usually have a full page with travel agent ads. But note that the very very low prices are usaully group tickets. BJ should be around 800-900, cheapest I ever got was 680

Phantomtiger2
06-09-06, 18:23
Check elong or ctrip. Or check your daily chinese newspaper. They usually have a full page with travel agent ads. But note that the very very low prices are usaully group tickets. BJ should be around 800-900, cheapest I ever got was 680


I assume you meant RT ticket right? or maybe for 800-900 , will include a BJ on the flight--ha ha

Hqly2002
06-11-06, 12:14
Hi Guys,

Just curious if extra service is obtainable at the massage palor in the commercial center that's located right after the LoWu hk border?

Went for a 2 hour massage and the girl didn't seem interested in anything extra, plus the rooms have see through windows which can be seen through from the next room.

Normally the ones i go to has more privacy.

Just curious if anyone was able to get any service from these places?

Manfest
06-12-06, 03:36
Hi Guys,

Just curious if extra service is obtainable at the massage palor in the commercial center that's located right after the LoWu hk border?

Just curious if anyone was able to get any service from these places?Hqly2002,

There are a few places in the Lowu Commercial center for massage, pedicure, foot massage, etc, but none with extra services. Period. I don't suspect you should waste your efforts trying, although maybe that is part of the fun. I don't want to disparage any of the ladies because some of their massage skills are great, but they are not necessarily the best lookers.

In general, if you go through this thread, there does not seem to be any massage/FS combinations readily available in SZN. This kind of service is available in GD, CP, Zhuhai, Macau, etc, but not in SZN. Anyone is welcome to correct me if that info is wrong. Hope that helps.

-M

Hoeman
06-12-06, 03:39
Found this photo showing the type of service you can get at any Fujian style massage place. This one is in Shenzhen near the pink high rises opposite the Shangrila Hotel.

The deal is 35 RMB per hour (45 min), if you book for 2 hours they will wash your dick using nice spoapy water. The girls are all young and attractive and well skilled. They take their time and do not just try to get you to finish in the shortest possible time. The girls usually wear some sort of uniform. Usually that is all you can get at such places. There is no need to tip.

Excellent pix, Mark. Would like to add that different HJ places have different modus operandi. Some give you soapy dickwash (your dick ends up shining clean). Others give you a dry HJ (standard HJ and clean up with tissue); some give you oily HJ, where the girl will use baby oil to wank you off (wipe off with tissue). But the best is still the soapy HJ as seen by pix provided by Mark. I've experienced really good sopay HJ, where the girl first wipes with babywipes, then wash until really clean and end it with a wet but explosive wank.

For those who do not have time to spend the whole 2 hours in order to get the HJ, you may opt to get the girl to give you a HJ by paying rmb70 for only 1 hour at the HJ place, meaning you pay for the 2nd hour even though you don't spend that amount of time there. I usually do that when I'm rushed for time.

Hoeman
06-12-06, 03:45
Check elong or ctrip. Or check your daily chinese newspaper. They usually have a full page with travel agent ads. But note that the very very low prices are usaully group tickets. BJ should be around 800-900, cheapest I ever got was 680

I think Elong is quite good. And they send the tickets to you at any place/hotel where you are at. I believe Ctrip does that too. The drawback is that you have to pay cash (no credit card).

Group tickets mean you cannot change dates or times. Flight details are fixed and if you want to change, the refund is like less than half.

Greatdane2001
06-14-06, 05:48
Hqly2002,

There are a few places in the Lowu Commercial center for massage, pedicure, foot massage, etc, but none with extra services. Period. I don't suspect you should waste your efforts trying, although maybe that is part of the fun. I don't want to disparage any of the ladies because some of their massage skills are great, but they are not necessarily the best lookers.

In general, if you go through this thread, there does not seem to be any massage/FS combinations readily available in SZN. This kind of service is available in GD, CP, Zhuhai, Macau, etc, but not in SZN. Anyone is welcome to correct me if that info is wrong. Hope that helps.

-MThanks for your feedback. I didn't find any. Now I won't bother trying anymore!

OldAsiaHand
06-15-06, 13:48
hqly2002,

most of the saunas in sha tsui offer fs, but the massage skills are lacking. if you want a good massage, i suggest that you ask specifically for this when they send you a girl. there are a couple of other fs saunas rep001tered around town, as well.

having said that, if the girl provides fs, she does not want to give you a massage. she just makes the motions long enough to get you interested in the fs.

just my pov.

oah




hi guys,

just curious if extra service is obtainable at the massage palor in the commercial center that's located right after the lowu hk border?

went for a 2 hour massage and the girl didn't seem interested in anything extra, plus the rooms have see through windows which can be seen through from the next room.

normally the ones i go to has more privacy.

just curious if anyone was able to get any service from these places?

Bob Builder
06-15-06, 15:18
oah is right. to add to that upper sand, lower sand, basically any village with the name sand does not offer real massage. i have pals who live in all of them and have been told to leave if i want to get a real massage. and if you look at the looks and the build of the talent, they were not made for hard work. you are only going to get a massage on your third leg.

also as a rule of thumb if you get any flyers from the touts at the border crossing, any with pictures of gals in mini-skirts also = no massage.

my advice is to bone yourself silly in the bbs and head to a real sauna for a real massage. that way you get the best of both worlds and not some half arsed 2-in-one deal.



hqly2002,

most of the saunas in sha tsui offer fs, but the massage skills are lacking. if you want a good massage, i suggest that you ask specifically for this when they send you a girl. there are a couple of other fs saunas rep001tered around town, as well.

having said that, if the girl provides fs, she does not want to give you a massage. she just makes the motions long enough to get you interested in the fs.

just my pov.

oah

Paracite
06-16-06, 10:16
Just completed my first visit to Sha Tsui, first a comment on the name. This place is actually pronounced Sha Jui or Sha Chui, do not try to pronounce it as tsui. It is very eary to get here if you print out the picture of the gate that has been posted on the forum. BTW, I believe the actual spelling of the place is Shazui. Anyways, I got to this place ~7:00 on wednesday and proceeded to walk around the main street and the alley ways. Every where you go there are stores with a bunch of bored girls inside. At first when I was walking by no mamasan was harassing me to take a girl so I wasn't sure if it was what I was looking for or not. Most girls in this place probably don't like foreigners. Eventually I was walking by a store and decided to poke my head in. I asked for mamasan and quickly picked out a hottie from the group. They'll try and get you for RMB200, but will quickly drop to RMB150. I was taken up to a grimey apartment above the shops. We washed up, fucked, and cleaned up. The girl gave me her number but I don't think I want to call her back, nice body but she doesn't give a BJ. I started to take another walk around and the further you go into Shazui, the more you get harassed. Just a short time later I found another girl that looked like she would be fun and took her up again for RMB150. It was a similar process but this girl gave a BBBJ, a poor one but atleast she tried. She really seemed to enjoy the fucking and was enthusiastic about the whole deal. I would have tried to get her #, but she didn't speak a lick of English and there would be no way to talk to her.

Overall Shazui is a good place if you don't mind a seedy/grimey atmosphere. The girls here are pretty good looking, I would say you can easily find solid 6's and 7's. One thing to keep in mind, however the girls tits look like with her clothes on, expect them to be half the size you are thinking. Girls in China are ALWAYS using a push up bra (the 2nd girl had an amazing body until she took her top off to reveal a 1/2 A cup).

While I was walking around I noticed a lot of really hot girls wearing black wondering around the place. Does anyone know if you could pick them up, or where they work?

OldAsiaHand
06-17-06, 04:09
Overall Shazui is a good place if you don't mind a seedy/grimey atmosphere. The girls here are pretty good looking, I would say you can easily find solid 6's and 7's.

While I was walking around I noticed a lot of really hot girls wearing black wondering around the place. Does anyone know if you could pick them up, or where they work?

Pararcite:

IMHO, Shazui has the best price/quality ration in SZ. However, I estimate around 30% of the girls are not foreigner friendly.

Grimey? I find the rooms to be cleaner than the other areas in town, even with a stack of fresh towels to use in some of the apartments. Seedy? Not the most seedy by a long shot. Try the catacombs in CP for grimey/seedy.

By your description, I reckon that the girls in black may be normal employees of a KTV, but I cannot be certain without seeing them.

My advise is always ask for what you want in advance e.g. BBBJ, to avold disappointment later. Another suggestion is to go for a line-up with the mamas. This way you can see around 20-30 girls in one shot and get a look at the accomodations at the same time.

Just my POV.

OAH

Paracite
06-17-06, 14:01
The next time I go to Shazui, I would like to meet up with someone that speaks Chinese as I think that could go a long way. I know that specific words have been posted in the forum, but I would end up wipping out a peice of paper to remember how to say it, a little awkward. Also, there was a cop by the taxi stand that was going around with a sharp pin and getting VERY close to the tires. I was a little nervous he was just going to start slashing some of the tires. I guess comparitively it might not be grimey/seedy, but it can be seen that way to a newcomer. I would love to head out to the area again with some of the more experienced mongers, hopefully on my next visit.

I definetly agree with you on the bang for the buck, got 2 good shags for 300rmb, less than $30USD!!! I've come to nnot really expect a BJ from girls in China and am pleasantly surprised when I get one.

Unknown One
06-18-06, 17:21
I know most people here are usually bombarded with "Where can I find action" posts instead of RTFF. But I have something that might be something different. While RTFF because I am going back down to Shenzhen tomorrow and wanted to find new updates, I came across OAH's post about reading a book between sex sessions because the TV sucks. Well that got me wondering, where oh where in China, or in Shenzhen can I find a good western bookstore? That is something I crave being out here is a good novel in hand and kicking back on the couch waiting for the next sexual favor to show up at my door. (Other than hauling books across the Pacific that is). Specific locations would be appreciated, or at least the name of the mall it is located in. I speak Chinese fairly fluently so I should be ok.
I will be in Shenzhen until the 23rd and going into HK during the day on business trips, but promise to fill each night with something to report about. I know I havent posted a report in some time, but then again compared to some of you Moody, OAH, AG, David, Cronin especially, as well as many others I will have to live till I am 300 to match your posts.

Santa
06-18-06, 18:48
I came across OAH's post about reading a book between sex sessions because the TV sucks. Well that got me wondering, where oh where in China, or in Shenzhen can I find a good western bookstore?


There are good bookshops in China that are nice to visit, but unfortunately the selection of english language books is very limited. It is mostly old classics, the type you would read in school. The books are very cheap and you may have a chance to find a friend, since educated young ladies frequent the shops.

Look for a gal you might fancy and ask her where the english books are.

The best shops are in Hong Kong where you will pay western prices.
The best shops in China are in Beijing and Shanghai. I know of two large shops in Shenzhen on Shennan Lu not far from the Jusco. One is near the Stock Exchange.

You might try going to the Starbuck's at Jusco and ask the ladies there where the shops are.

Educated english speakers gather for conversation at the English Corner on sundays. Every city has one. In Shanghai it's in People's Park. In Shenzhen they meet at a pavillion beside the lake in the Lychee Park. The park is on the north side of Shennan Lu opposite Jusco. Folks there can tell you where to find books, movies and concerts.

You might consider bringing a very small portable DVD player with you and plug it into the hotel TV. The players I have seen in China were not cheap and of questionable quality, so buy one at home. There are lots of cheap 6RMB to 8RMB disks available in Shenzhen. Try the shopping center in front of the train station. Or ask some young ladies to show you where you can buy them.

Good luck member 1346 and hope you have lots of fun in Shenzhen. I think you already know most of this information but other readers may find it useful.

LoveAsia
06-18-06, 22:42
Off the topic but ...

You can find many pirated DVD's with varying quality in SZ. Luohu Commercial Center has tons of them. If you want legitamte product you can buy from the movie theater at MIxC Shopping mall. There English DVD's are about 20 RMB and the quality is excellent.

I have lived in Shenzhen for 4 years now and have not found one good source for current books. When I need more books I go into HK and fill up on reading material. The prices are higher than the US but the choices are limitless.

As far as English corner...Lichee Park is famous for pickpockets and purse snatchers. If you are interested in meeting English speaking Chinese people you can hang out at Starbucks or go to where they are more likely to hang out which is Sea World in Shekou.

LA

Fast Eddie 48
06-19-06, 03:48
Off the topic but ...

You can find many pirated DVD's with varying quality in SZ. Luohu Commercial Center has tons of them. If you want legitamte product you can buy from the movie theater at MIxC Shopping mall. There English DVD's are about 20 RMB and the quality is excellent.

I have lived in Shenzhen for 4 years now and have not found one good source for current books. When I need more books I go into HK and fill up on reading material. The prices are higher than the US but the choices are limitless.

As far as English corner...Lichee Park is famous for pickpockets and purse snatchers. If you are interested in meeting English speaking Chinese people you can hang out at Starbucks or go to where they are more likely to hang out which is Sea World in Shekou.

LA


to la

Sha tsui is also a good place to buy dvd cheap US or chinese dvd from hong
kong , many people from hk go there to buy dvd and go mongering dvd for $8
rmb or $ 1 usd but some poor quality dvd don't work .

The last year US custom and hong kong is cracking down on pirated dvd , I
have a friend was caught in US custom with copy of king kong dvd that was i
the cinema in US and dvd is not release yet in the US , becareful on US dvd
even the older on don't take any chance to get fine .

fast eddie 48

Open to Explore
06-19-06, 06:43
8RMB Thats expensive ! Go to Dongguan Tai Ping you can get them for 5 !

Also you can try them in the shop to check them out first. Only thing you have to spend approx 80RMB on return bus fare.

Superforce99
06-19-06, 06:48
to la

Sha tsui is also a good place to buy dvd cheap US or chinese dvd from hong
kong , many people from hk go there to buy dvd and go mongering dvd for $8
rmb or $ 1 usd but some poor quality dvd don't work .

The last year US custom and hong kong is cracking down on pirated dvd , I
have a friend was caught in US custom with copy of king kong dvd that was i
the cinema in US and dvd is not release yet in the US , becareful on US dvd
even the older on don't take any chance to get fine .

fast eddie 48


Hey FE,

What is the fine/penalty for bringing DVDs into the US?


J

Prince Leo
06-19-06, 07:00
If I am not mistaken, it is $25000 USD each.


Hey FE,

What is the fine/penalty for bringing DVDs into the US?


J

Superforce99
06-19-06, 09:06
If I am not mistaken, it is $25000 USD each.

You gotta be joking, right? I cannot imagine, even with the idiocy and hypocracy that goes on in the US government, that I would be charged $25,000 for each $0.80 pirated DVD....anybody have any experiences?

In early 2005, I personally brought back a DVD folder with about 100 DVDs inside without any problems, but I didn't get the random search upon entry to the US either. I packed the stuff with my laptop inside my suitcase, not my carry-on bag.


J

Amazing Hkg
06-19-06, 09:54
You gotta be joking, right? I cannot imagine, even with the idiocy and hypocracy that goes on in the US government, that I would be charged $25,000 for each $0.80 pirated DVD....anybody have any experiences?

In early 2005, I personally brought back a DVD folder with about 100 DVDs inside without any problems, but I didn't get the random search upon entry to the US either. I packed the stuff with my laptop inside my suitcase, not my carry-on bag.

JI do believe the figure is correct.

I heard that an ex colleague of mine had to declare bankruptcy for being caught with 3 copy DVD's. He was fined $75K.

Customs are targeting Asians upon arrival in LAX/SFO/SEA airports.

I don't believe it's worth it anymore.

Just my 2 cents :)

Unknown One
06-19-06, 14:03
One must admire jolly ol' saint Nick not missing an opportunity to help me score. I just wish I could find one in a Xmas outfit. I recently ran the Ferarri Test Drive in JiaDing and picked up a Ferarri girl. Arent you all proud of me?
But great idea Santa, I will check out that square and pick up a girl as well. Fantastic idea even. (Regarding DVD players I pack my own laptop but some poor quality dvds I have a hard time playing them).

The problem with picking up girls like this, I am hesitant to post them on this site, because this type of pickup doesnt qualify as shared information. Well the information is shared, but the girl usually isnt right? Seemingly sharing such private hookups and freebies are a bit (well no offense to anybody at all, my MHO) bragging about it. Anyways, thanks for the idea and now that I am in Shenzhen staying at the new Vienna hotel by the Carrefour on Xin Hua San Jie. It is really cheap right because they just opened recently. It seems to be in a popular and busy area so I am about to go scouting some good places to report. If anybody can supply me with Foot Massage places that also give BJs I would appreciate it, and will report on every girl I enjoy. (I have RTFF but didnt find anything specific but read about 20 pages.) Anyways off to hunt, wish me luck and hopefully can find some gems to share with everybody.

Regarding the DVD postings, I have noticed this in China. The truely cheap ones are 5 RMB and are obivously faked. But they also sell the 20 RMB ones in the stores and are SUPPOSEDLY legitimate. Everything on it works but its a bit more expensive. Now I was thinking for crap quality you just want to watch it and throw it away, but if you want to collect, the 20 RMB ones are basically as good as the real ones, or in this case because they are the legit ones. Still cheaper to buy than in US is my opinion, and you were under the impression they were legit because all the features work right? Many of these DVDs have alot of Thai, Malaysian, Taiwanese, Korean, Japanese subtitles as well as English. (The ones in US usually carry French and Spanish)

One last question, what is JUSCO? I have found lots of posts about it but have no idea what the acronym is for.

Oh and finally, thank you for the tip, I forgot to add that in.



There are good bookshops in China that are nice to visit, but unfortunately the selection of english language books is very limited. It is mostly old classics, the type you would read in school. The books are very cheap and you may have a chance to find a friend, since educated young ladies frequent the shops.

Look for a gal you might fancy and ask her where the english books are.

The best shops are in Hong Kong where you will pay western prices.
The best shops in China are in Beijing and Shanghai. I know of two large shops in Shenzhen on Shennan Lu not far from the Jusco. One is near the Stock Exchange.

You might try going to the Starbuck's at Jusco and ask the ladies there where the shops are.

Educated english speakers gather for conversation at the English Corner on sundays. Every city has one. In Shanghai it's in People's Park. In Shenzhen they meet at a pavillion beside the lake in the Lychee Park. The park is on the north side of Shennan Lu opposite Jusco. Folks there can tell you where to find books, movies and concerts.

You might consider bringing a very small portable DVD player with you and plug it into the hotel TV. The players I have seen in China were not cheap and of questionable quality, so buy one at home. There are lots of cheap 6RMB to 8RMB disks available in Shenzhen. Try the shopping center in front of the train station. Or ask some young ladies to show you where you can buy them.

Good luck member 1346 and hope you have lots of fun in Shenzhen. I think you already know most of this information but other readers may find it useful.

Moody
06-19-06, 16:42
JUSCO = Japan United Stores Company.

That's why they had those demonstrations there last year. Chinese don't like Japanese.

Dar425
06-19-06, 17:02
The deal with catching people who are exiting China with pirated DVDs (and Rolex watches, or Vutton handbags, etc), is that certain industries give reward for catching their products.

What happens is that some organization, like the MPAA/RIAA, talks to the Chinese Customs Office and declares a reward for catching people trying to exit China with pirated DVDs. So, during that time the chinese customs agents are more aggressive about searching for pirated DVDs, and thus fining people caught with them. On the backend, the MPAA/RIAA probably gives some 'bonus money' for catching people. During some times, they offer this 'bonus' vs during other times there is no 'bonus', so the customs agents are more lazy to stop the flow of pirated things.


If Louis Vutton or Rolex was offering a reward to customs agents, then these items will be caught/stopped, but I guess these companies don't offer the rewards.


Dar

Unknown One
06-19-06, 19:55
so i am staying at the international vienna hotel, not the original one. this is the new one. at first it seemed quite a busy location but when i exited the hotel door i went left. it is a series of mazes and i came across a few places that offered girls in uniforms, nothing but fuzhou style massage, which is their lingo for handjobs. nothing there. it is seriously a series of mazes and the streets are dirty so i wont bother posting about hand job places. i head back to the hotel and this time i walk by the door so i am heading the other direction. i am assuming i am heading in a south direction this time. i cross the large intersection and across the street is another series of small streets. in between these small streets are alleys, and bingo this is the place. now the mamasan here are very aggressive. they were grabbing me and pulling my shirt. i had to politely tell them to let go before they would. most of the places i walked past offer fs but upon closer questioning, the girls all refuse to do bj. go upstairs, or to an apartment nearby and straight to sex. so i continued on through all the alleys and there are quite a few forming a grid shape. near the south west end of these little mazes ( by southwest end i mean you will soon be exiting these mazes and be back on a small street that looks like a market street with little eateries and shops ) i found this girl who had a very sweet smile, about 5'1 88 lbs, 19 years old, petite, cute body frame and overall not bad with a small handful of breasts. i think the army outfit won me over so i picked her from the mamasan and wanted to get a bj. she said she would do it. the mamasan first wanted 200, i said no way and she said 150 is the minimum and it was all inclusive including bj or 300 for takeout for the night. i said fine so the girl leads me down these alleys to an apartment where she rings the bell. a man answers so i decided to pass and told her to come back to my hotel. (just so you know, alot of girls were exiting and entering apartments and my girl actually asked another mamasan at another shop if she could use a room but the mamasan said it was occupied. we then headed to this place.) so back to my room we went and she was all smiles and being cute as we chatted for the first 45 minutes before she went into the shower. the cuteness aside she wasnt very responsive, i gave her daty and she moaned loudly but then begged me to stop because she couldnt stand the stimulation, then i asked her to give me a go and she pouted and said she doesnt like it. i tried to persuade her but no luck so we get straight to sex. she has a tight wet honeypot though and in no time i was done. i think i was already partly turned off, i tend to finish faster in that case, or i dont finish at all. she was just laying there for awhile and basically not very responsive, no kissing at all, she didnt even kiss my body or anything. only thing i ever got from her were hugs and she would put her head in my lap. no gfe. we had some fun taking photos as i told her she should try to model so i got a few shots of her just to share with you guys who are interested in getting straight to the sex without gfe experiences. by all means pound the hell out of her. she then pouted and said she wanted to go home, so instead of arguing i sent her out because i was tired of her. although her attitude was friendly, she was still uncooperative and unwilling.
looks: 7 body: petite 7 attitude: 5 (give her this because at least she wasnt being a ***** about things, just pouty but basically still no) service: 2 it was pretty crappy from my normal shanghai standards. so that is the report for tonight, i will try to find better tomrrow. the alley south of the new vienna housed at least 10 of these places rep001tered across the entire grid network of alleys. most girls were 4-5's, some were 6's. a few 7's but basically none of them want to do bjs.

signing off.

Goderos
06-19-06, 20:06
8RMB Thats expensive ! Go to Dongguan Tai Ping you can get them for 5 !

Also you can try them in the shop to check them out first. Only thing you have to spend approx 80RMB on return bus fare.


lowest you can bargain to 3rmb per dvd from a street vendor/person. but 5rmb is more than fair. it cost that much for a blank DVD in N america. :-)

LoveAsia
06-19-06, 23:30
My last post about DVD's...I think paying 20RMB (~2.50USD) for a DVD from a legitamate source (movie theatre chain that has a DVD store in their premise) is still a bargain and you will have a receipt for your purchase. You won't have to sweat going through immigration and customs and you know that you didn't screw the people who should get compensated for making the movies.

I couldn't sleep last night and did not want to wake my taitai from her sleep for a romp. After a few years together she no longer appreciates my middle of the night rocket.

I was going to go to my regular massage/HJ place but didn't feel like driving all the way to Luohu from Futian. Typically, if I drive at night (it was 4 am) the fun places stand out with their neon. I was on Beihi Road (also know as the southern highway) heading towards luohu and exited across the road from the Exhibition Center. Typically I look for neon, clusters of people, outdoor food places that are crowded at odd hours, etc. After exiting I made my first left at the first light. (I appologize for not getting the street names...I have been living here a number of years now and know the streets but never bother to remember the names.).Drove until I saw a cluster of what I mentioned above...passed a big barber shop which looked like a real haircut place but the girls were in satin bed clothes. Maybe it doubles during the day as a real haircut place.

I think there was another one a few doors down and then a few doors further from that was a mediocre massage place. I was pretty sure it was a hj place and this is what I needed. They too me up to the 3rd floor of this place that would have been old 10 years ago. Led me past rooms that had alternate stiped clear and opaque striped glass. The door was open across from my room as I entered and some Chinese dude was watching TV and getting stroked by a cute massage girl.

My girl came in a few minutes later and she was actually kind of cute. Wearing some satin uniform with shoulder straps over her bra straps. We chatted for awhile (my Chinese is good enough for massage chat). My little brother was tired but managed to rise (and fall) numerous times for the occasion. The girl giggled but I knew she wasn't sure I understood nor that I knew this was a HJ place. After the frontal massage she asked me to turn over which I declined. She started to massage my hairy ass stomach and chest and my hand slip up her shorts and I started to pet her kitty. She asked if I wanted Touyou (spell check) and I said yet. She locked the door..I dropped my shorts and slipped her straps down and slid her top down to her stomach. For a 20 yr old her chest was only so so in my opinion. Her nips were dark with a descent size nipple. She started to stroke me as I sucked on her nipples and had my hand inside her panties, nearly elbow deep (just kidding..only knuckle deep). She gave some fake moans and I shot my load fairly quickly. We still have 30-40 minutes left to go but I had what I came for. Typically, if I go for a legit massage and use all the time but for a HJ massage when I had my release I had enough because the massage usually sucks.

All in all I would give the following rating:location=6, Looks= 7, attitude=7/8, HJEL(hand job enjoyment level) = 7. Well, any time I cum it is a 10 but then within that ten there is a different level of enjoyment. I will try to get better street names next time.

LA

Manfest
06-20-06, 17:38
My experience buying porn (surprise, surprise), however, has not been great in China. Buyer beware. The 3 DVDs from 2 locations (Lowu CC and Dongmen), the actual penetration shots were blocked or cut. I'm a sucker for the great cover, but I guess you can't judge a DVD by it's cover.

If any ISG members know of good xxx video in SZ, please share. Thanks.

Unknown One
06-21-06, 05:52
ok so last night i didnt make a post because i was tired. here is last night's follow up. i wanted to thoroughly go around this new vienna hotel before giving up and moving on. although the night before i already had pretty thoroughly explored the surrounding area. i have travelled north to the next large intersection and south to the market street. i headed back south, and alot of the mamasans recognized me from the night before and were making little jokes about me being back. so this time i headed towards the southeast area of this grid of alleys (if you come around here you will understand better what i mean, i call it a grid because it is a maze of alleys that crisscross north south and east west. however there is a distinct zone because as you continue down you will no either no longer find any shops left and only apartment entrances such as the heading in the general east direction, or you will find larger market streets such as heading in the north, south, and west direction.) so this time i head southeast, and come across this mamasan on the last shop in this general direction and took a peek inside. this mamasan seem to have the best looking girls here as well as the most selection. i picked a girl called li dan as she was wearing all white and i was in the mood for a more innocent fuck than anything else. hey sometimes you simply want vanilla! so this time i decide to check out heading with the girls up to the apartments and see if i can report back on this. being extremely cautious, i followed her to an upstairs apartment. i must admit i did not like it, because there were guys up there hanging around smoking and playing mahjong. they were on the 2nd floor as we headed to the third but they left their front door open so they saw us go up. i am wondering if they are the muscles. so up to the third floor we go, and as usual the mamasan tried to quote me 200 and they wanted payment first. they claim that these places all give payment first but relented as i brushed her off and insisted on the maximum 150. i also jokingly threatened that if she continued to push me i will begin lowering my price to 100 because she is ruining my mood.
the deed: it was mechanical and no kissing. i am surprised because in shanghai the bbs girls will try to kiss but here they dont want to. the girl the night before also insisted no kissing. no kissing no bj, just some quick touching and licking of my nipples as i fondled her. i was petting her pussy, but she also refused to let me insert fingers into her. within 5 minutes she say she cant take it anymore ( i wonder do they all read the same "how to talk like a *****" book because they all say the same crap. ) and as i enter her she makes a fake moan and say "oh god you are so big". doing her doggy style i let her kneel on the bed as i stood, i didnt even consider giving her daty because of alot of reasons including the location, cleanliness of the room, and general sanitation conditions. 10-15 minutes later, old faithful spews off his pressure and she gets up to dress. i give her the money and we head downstairs. no photos, nothing.
the summary: i guess in shenzhen bbs is truely the fast food of sex. you get the very basic satisfaction of hunger and nothing more. the girl was a 7: very cute face, fair skin, long hair. performance was a 3: i already lowered my expectations from the night before so i am adding a point here. location was a 3: the apartment is not very clean, but the bed was not visibly dirty. however i doubt they change the sheets which is why i choose doggie style and didnt bother changing positions. price was 150 of course.
the reflection: i have been in shenzhen before but i think i prefer the sw. they dont cost as much as sw in shanghai (only around 300-400 depending on how well you negotiate, maybe even better if you are oah) and the services from sw seem better. come to think of it, my last post on sw near hilton was also no kissing but she did very thoroughly give me a cock cleaning with her tongue and lips so it felt better. considering the bbs girls are also 300 for takeout, i think i would rather stick with sw and tonight i will go out hunting for these. i did notice some girls hanging outside the new vienna but making eye contact did not bring her towards me. perhaps they are the girls from the ktv upstairs. i would hate to have to go back down to hilton just to bring a girl back up to futian, think of the shipping costs both ways! if i do pick up a bbs girl, i think i would still rather bring her back to my place as well. you can get bj from these girls, but only as part of the full service package. so far i picked the cuties and they seem to be less willing than the less attractive ones. that is always how it goes isnt it? ahh if only i wasnt such a visual person!!

Csun213
06-21-06, 08:21
Member #1346, you have to realize that if you paid $150 for short time, the girl only receive $100 max while the house gets at least $50 or more therefore the girls are not really going to give you any more than what you paid. If you really want a girlfriend type sex, I would recommend taking her to your hotel, then get her cellphone number and setup an appointment for her to come to your hotel room the next day. Then she gets to keep all of the $150, is much happier and you will find out that she will do much more for you.

I had a very pretty Harbin girl that I saw everytime I went to Shenzhen who will do anything and everything. She usually stay between 2-3 hours in my room and never rush to leave.

Unknown One
06-21-06, 10:12
Member #1346, you have to realize that if you paid $150 for short time, the girl only receive $100 max while the house gets at least $50 or more therefore the girls are not really going to give you any more than what you paid. If you really want a girlfriend type sex, I would recommend taking her to your hotel, then get her cellphone number and setup an appointment for her to come to your hotel room the next day. Then she gets to keep all of the $150, is much happier and you will find out that she will do much more for you.

I had a very pretty Harbin girl that I saw everytime I went to Shenzhen who will do anything and everything. She usually stay between 2-3 hours in my room and never rush to leave.

I totally understand CSUN. Perhaps I wasnt clear on my posts, sometimes you can find a girl who is just a willing girl. I have found from time to time a girl that is just spirited even on your first visit. I am actually just trying to find these gems and make posts on such finds.
However I understand that 99% of BBS sex is just fast sex. You get what you pay for of course. However, in Shanghai alot of BBS you can kiss, touch and alot more. I felt a bit more rushed here than in Shanghai so I was reflecting that in case other people from Shanghai come down here for their first time and come across my report they will be better prepared! Just trying to make a thorough report. But thanks for your comment regardless!

SE Asia Joe
06-21-06, 10:36
s So up to the third floor we go, and as usual the mamasan tried to quote me 200 and they wanted payment first. They claim that these places all give payment first but relented as I brushed her off and insisted on the maximum 150. I also jokingly threatened that if she continued to push me I will begin lowering my price to 100 because she is ruining my mood.
The Reflection: I have been in Shenzhen before but I think I prefer the SW. They dont cost as much as SW in Shanghai (only around 300-400 depending on how well you negotiate, maybe even better if you are OAH) Ahh if only I wasnt such a visual person!!
Hate to say this - and do apologize if I perhaps cause offense - but really guys - how much is Yuan 200 or 300 - actually its US$25 - 37.50. Especially considering 1. Look at your hotel room - looks nice - how much did it cost per night? 2. How much do you spend having meals/drinks/k-ok fees 3. How much did you spend on Plane tickets coming over 4 .For those of you on Vitamin V - your pills costs you what - Yuan 80? 100? 5. How much do spend going in a taxi from Luohu or Huangang to the hotel. (I can go on and on also about how bad off these galls are, how tragic some of their stories are, how these ladies are usually grossly taken advantage of by their pimps, boyfriends - even their own families - but you get my drift)
OK, I understand, of course you do not want to grossly overpay/spoil the market - but Yuan 50 (US$6.00) more or less - do you tip more when having lunch in the States/Europe? And in your case - look-it - you even DATY her. Lets face it guys - when we guys DATY a chick, we are actually paying tribute to her pussy and to her beauty,desireablity and womanhood. How do you pay tribute and squibble about 6 bucks?!
** Most important point** - I'd say most of us on this board are Laowai's or at least "non-locals" even if Chinese. Yes, the gals in the PRC usually try to get us for "more" - and let me suggest that this is actually GOOD! If the chicks don't think that they can get us for more, than they would not "flock" to us. If I was them and if I'm going to be earning the same from the locals - hell, I'd definitely go after and give better service to the locals - in the hope of return/continuing business - and would stay away from "dem Furruners"
So howzabout it guys - let them earn a bit more - and make it easier for all of us generally? OK?
SE Asia Joe

Ace Gallant
06-21-06, 11:03
Hate to say this - and do apologize if I perhaps cause offense - but really guys - how much is Yuan 200 or 300 - actually its US$25 - 37.50. Especially considering 1. Look at your hotel room - looks nice - how much did it cost per night? 2. How much do you spend having meals/drinks/k-ok fees 3. How much did you spend on Plane tickets coming over 4 .For those of you on Vitamin V - your pills costs you what - Yuan 80? 100? 5. How much do spend going in a taxi from Luohu or Huangang to the hotel. (I can go on and on also about how bad off these galls are, how tragic some of their stories are, how these ladies are usually grossly taken advantage of by their pimps, boyfriends - even their own families - but you get my drift)
OK, I understand, of course you do not want to grossly overpay/spoil the market - but Yuan 50 (US$6.00) more or less - do you tip more when having lunch in the States/Europe? And in your case - look-it - you even DATY her. Lets face it guys - when we guys DATY a chick, we are actually paying tribute to her pussy and to her beauty,desireablity and womanhood. How do you pay tribute and squibble about 6 bucks?!
** Most important point** - I'd say most of us on this board are Laowai's or at least "non-locals" even if Chinese. Yes, the gals in the PRC usually try to get us for "more" - and let me suggest that this is actually GOOD! If the chicks don't think that they can get us for more, than they would not "flock" to us. If I was them and if I'm going to be earning the same from the locals - hell, I'd definitely go after and give better service to the locals - in the hope of return/continuing business - and would stay away from "dem Furruners"
So howzabout it guys - let them earn a bit more - and make it easier for all of us generally? OK?
SE Asia Joe

Joe,

Sometimes it is not the money, sometime some people loves to have fun.

100rmn more or less means nothing to us but we know it mean a lot to them, so some of these guys just want to tease the girls. Cheap trills.

I usually not play these games but sometime if mama or the girls prove they are a breech!

But your are right "Do not spoilt the market!"

AG

Unknown One
06-21-06, 11:21
So this afternoon I decided to check out some saunas around this hotel. Again trying to experience everything this general area has to offer. I headed south on Xin Zhou 3 Rd after exiting the hotel and crossed Fu Qiang Rd. This is the road in my previous posts that I mentioned crossing and you will eventually head onto the market street. Crossing the market street will be the various alley grids where all the BBS are. (The market street is only obivous at night as it is busy and full of people. During the day it wont be as distinct.) Anyways after I cross the intersection there is a Luo Ma Jia Ri Xiu Xian Hui (Roughly translates into Roman Holiday R&R Club). The entrance is on Xin Zhou 3 Rd on the west side of the street.

The neon sign at night looks very nice, but the actual interior is mediocre at best. The rooms are clean but the facilities are old and not the least bit upscale. I checked into a deluxe room that offers a shower stall that also doubles as a steam bath facility. This type of room is 108RMB for 2 hours. It is now 2PM. I asked the girl who led me to my room how to operate the steam bath and she mentioned she will have a "specialist" come show me. She leaves the room and I am now taking in the view of the room. The bed is large, the sheets are clean, there are naked or suggestive pictures on the walls (good sign) but the place is still fairly mundane. A couple of minutes later, the girl returns with another girl in a green neglige and tells me this is their specialist. The first girl puts down my lemon iced tea that I ordered by the table and leaves. The specialist was at most a 4-5. I was ready to pass but wanted to be polite about it. We make small talk and she shows me how to operate the steam bath and asks how long will I need because she will return when I am done. I take the opportunity to ask her if I can be shown some ladies so I may make my own choice. She said no I cannot, but she can call the next onein if I was not satisfied with her. Ugg...not another one of these taking turns based on your number ticket gigs, this isnt a damn bank!

Soooo, after this girl leaves for 10 minutes another one shows up. This lady is 30 years old, but actually quite attractive for her age. She is from Yun Nan, and look-wise she is a 7 (again for her age, so if you are in the mood for a more mature woman look she will probably please you) She stands 5'6 approx, weighing not more than 115. Very nice body shape. She is #99. She has a very nice body and a great smile. I was thinking to myself that I wouldnt mind trying a woman for a change instead of girls. So I picked her and we began talking. She told me she needs to get a 2 hour block for her to get 20 RMB because its 10 RMB for her per hour but she doesnt get anything for just the first hour. We are suppose to tip them for these massages. I asked her how much was the massage and she replied "Dont you know? You got the deluxe room, did you get a discount?" I replied "No I didnt, should I have?" She didnt answer (This is making me more alert) So I asked again how much is for the oiled massage (from hearing so much about rip offs from saunas) she said I can tip her whatever I want, but it should be 50 (Hmmm.... in 1919 Ford introduced the T model, you can get any color you like as long as its black!) This massage is not on the price list on the little menu by the bed so I had to make a mental note to myself and add the cost up. So far 108 + 50. Ok. She goes to the phone on the wall and makes a call reporting an hour block. So as she is massaging me I turn on the TV. No porn like some saunas I heard. Just normal Chinese TV channels. As I am flipping through the channels and talking to her luck struck me and the HBO channel came on and I got to check out English version of Troy with subtitles. So she is massaging my back, which I must say she is actually putting decent effort into it. Not the lame massages you usually receive from a girl who wants you to get other services. So we start talking about stuff as I am trying to make her comfortable and find out about other services. When she kneels on my back as I am facing down I would bend my knees and raise my thigh and casually press it right between her legs. As she is rubbing my back, naturally her pussy will bounce up and down on my calf. She didnt mind (Im thinking:SCORE!) So one thing leads to another and we start talking about other services. She said she can give me oiled full body massage which includes the sensitive areas, and the tip is 100 RMB. I said I want more perhaps. She acts dumb and asks "What do you mean by more?" I run through some Chinese slangs for additional services and she finally says "No no no no..I dont do that. I only offer great oiled massages (which really isnt that bad) for back as well as buttocks. I also do full body oiled massages (meaning HJ) and thats it!" I continue to try and persuade her but she keeps giving me reasons how she comes from an educated family and that her mother has been ill since 2000 and spent all the family money so she had to leave the office life to come to Shenzhen from Yun Nan. I push a little further and ask her "Am I making you uncomfortable?" which she replied "a little...well...no." so I continue pushing for additional services by offering her 200RMB tip. She is very sweet and continues to decline so after going on for about 15 minutes I am convinced she doesnt give additional to this service. So I asked her if any other girls do because now I am wondering if I stumbled into a HJ place. She told me some do. I asked her if she can bring me one and she told how they must take turns in order. As of right now, we are only 35 minutes into the hour. So I tell her I am willing to tip her the 50 anyways. At first she told me I was suppose to give her 50 for the massage regardless. I replied yes but the time isnt up yet and I am still going to tip you if you bring me someone who will give me other services. I told her she is beautiful (which is quite true) and gives off a very womanly aura and it was such a shame I couldnt enjoy her. She laughed and said she was very sorry but will go back there and ask a girl to quietly come out of turn into my room. But she made me swear not to say a word about this to which I agreed. So she calls from her own mobile to another girl and then comes back to offer me a HJ if I still wanted it (Rubbing my ass for the last 15 minutes has gotten me turned on and it was a bit obivous) I replied I really want more from you. She laughed again and told me her friend would probably want 300 for FS and how her friend just came out from Gui Zhou and needs money. I replied that it was too expensive compared to market rates but we will see because it depended on the girl and my feeling as well as her attitude and looks. So #99 (by the way her name is Miss Yang) says she will continue to massage me while we wait for her friend and 15 minutes later her friend walks in. I didnt bother to get her # because she is not attractive, she looks like a horse. Decent body and fairly tall though. #99 exits to leave us alone and this new girl sits by me and starts by giving me a hand massage. As she is massaging me we are talking and as the conversation turns towards services she becomes evasive. She asks me to decide how much I am willing to tip her and I told her 200. She begins to laugh and starts rubbing my cock and telling me that isnt enough (I love their tactics). I told her that is the market rate as I only am interested in BJ. Her eyes widen in a bit of shock and tells me she doesnt know how, all the while continuing stroking my stick. I tell her that is what I want as I hurt my back the other day and that is why I am here doing steam bath. She continues to push for FS at 300 but the girl is at most a 3 on looks. So I told her I understand if she cannot go less than 300 but that is what I want. I said this with a sympathetic smile of course. She tries to tell me how she just got here, and she is very clean, not like the other women who will do FS but they are all 40+ and have been doing this for years. I look at her and smile and tell her I stand by my price and gave her another smile. So finally she leaves.

As she leaves, #99 comes back in after a couple of minutes and I ttold her I couldnt reach an accord with her friend. I took another shot at telling #99 that if it was her, I would give her 300 plus dinner. She laughed and told me she couldnt. She wasnt willing to do that for money. She then told me that she will go out to talk to the manager and find a girl that will satiate me because she doesnt want me to be unhappy. A couple of minutes later she returned and told me the manager will find a girl but may take awhile. She then calls the wall phone again and books another hour. I asked her about it and she said she is going to start by giving me a massage but will leave as the other girl comes in to take over. Meanwhile she offers to continue my "proper" relaxation massage. I make a mental note, now being a bit worried by these calls and charges I am not sure about but added in my head my count. Now I am really turned on by this 30 year old woman that is exuding sexiness. I am ready to throw her on the bed and rip off her clothes. Sensing that I am aroused again as she is massaging my feet, calf and thighs. She smiles and asked if I really like her that much. I said absolutely and gave her all the reasons I am typing here. She smiles as she turns her head away before flashing a glance back at me (Ok this is flirting now!) and puts her hand on my cock and starts massaging it through my boxers. Remember we are waiting for another girl to show up, but she continues to massage my cock and pulls it out of my shorts and starts stroking me. I tell her I wish I could do more with her but she says she has never done this before. I ask her "You mean you have never done anything sexual?" She replied "No I have with my husband of course but not anybody else." Since she told me before that she has been out here for 2 years and hasnt returned home, I tried to push for it again and ask her "Do you not have desires because you are making me crazy about you!" She laughs again and replies "This is life, but this is the most I can give you." So 5 minutes later and a very very nice HJ, as she is looking into my eyes the whole time and I into hers, I pop. She takes some tissue to clean me up and I asked her "What if I take you out to dinner?" and she replied "That would be nice." (I remember how she mentioned they dont eat very well here.) The door knocks at this point. I asked #99 how come it takes so long for a girl to show up and she tells me that they are usually wearing street clothes and only get into these negliges when called.

So now a new girl comes in, assuming this is the one the manager found. #99 smiles and leaves without asking for an additional tip. This one is #121 her name is Xiao Hui, about 5'6, nice body, not very large breasts, and her face is okay. Not the prettiest but not bad. I say she is a 5-6. She sits by the bed and massages my hand and I tell her how I give great massages, to which she lets me give her a try. I massaged her hand as we talked, and then I told her to turn around and began to massage her back. She complimented my technique (I am actually quite good at it) and I pull her towards me and the conversation eventually turned towards services. At first she was also a bit evasive, and told me the manager told her I wanted more services but she wasnt sure what. She did mention that the cost was 300. I told her that was for everything but my back was in pain so I only wanted BJ but was willing to give her 200 for it. She widened her eyes in surprise and asked "200 for BJ?" At this point I figured it was a sauna and I couldnt find anything like this at BBS so I said "For you? Sure." so the girl dims the lights (eventhough before #99 told me they arent allowed to dim the lights) and sits on my lap hugging me and we began fondling eachother. She wouldnt kiss but she loved biting my ear and kissing my neck. I talked dirty to her and told her that oral is very pleasurable (because she told me before we started "I must tell you I am not very good at it." to which my reply was "Dont worry I will teach you.") I told her I will also give her great oral pleasure to the likes she has never felt before. So after alot of fondling and kissing eachothers body, I lay her down on the bed and start kissing her all over. At first she tried to push me away from between her legs but I continued to persue her honey pot. She told me how she just isnt used to a man going down there on her but I told her orgasms by intercourse is a very deep pleasure but oral stimulation is very sharp strong pleasures due to the different stimulus (I was somewhat convinced at this point she isnt used to oral pleasure) but I convinced her and removed her panties for a check up and start DATY and she moaned and groaned while squirming to the point her head was almost on the bedside table. She grabbed my hair and said to me "This is crazy, I must not to be loud." I asked her if she is a loud person and she told me it depended on location. I then inserted 2 fingers into and continued pleasuring her. After about 20 minutes she grabs a towel on the bed and buries it onto her face as she screams into it. I figured that was the O so I slowed down and just lickd her gently and removed my fingers from within her. A bit later, she kept glancing at the door as she is putting her top back on, and pulling her panties back on and kept repeating "oh god I cannot believe I let you do this!" (The door has a window that you can see in) and she offers to pleasure me. She again tells me how she isnt experienced so I began teaching her. A bit of nipple sucking, ear biting later, she is now smoking my pole, and YEAH RIGHT, if she doesnt know how, she is a genious because she sure learned fast! She doenst spit every other second either as cum was trailing from the tip of my cock to her lips when she pulled up for air. She starts stroking me, sucking me, and later I pop. The time is now 4PM. We do the whole cleaning up bit and she tells me how this was amazing, and I offered to meet her later. She told me she gets off work at 10PM and would love to meet with me for the next few days. Anyways there is more to the conversation but this is long enough as it is. She was very good GFE and I think bringing her back to my room will be even better. She is leaving this place on the 24th though and going to a different place, but says she will give me her contact info if I am genuine about seeing her. Maybe you guys might want to check her before she moves? I tip her and she leaves with another hug and she bit and sucked on my earlobe again.

Now I am thinking I still want to take another steam bath before I go. So I figured the price for an additional hour is 48 added to the 2 hours before (as stated on the menu by the bed). So after I clean up and steam up and rest up it is 4:48PM. I head to the counter to get prepared to be ripped off. THIS IS IT FOLKS! THE GRAND FINALE!!!! The receptionist quotes me 108 RMB. I pay and leave. HOLY SHIT, I was worried that there would be a bunch of other charges, but none for the drink, or the 2 girls that came and went, or the overtime. So total cost: 108 (deluxe room with steam bath for 2 hours) +50 (99 tip) +200 (121 tip): 358.

Not a bad afternoon delight!

The place is called 罗马假日休闲会所. The address on their card is confusing, it is on the corner of FuTian Rd and XinZhou3 Rd. On the southeast corner. The entrance is on XinZhou3 Rd between a few restaurants, upstairs.

Unknown One
06-21-06, 11:27
Hate to say this - and do apologize if I perhaps cause offense - but really guys - how much is Yuan 200 or 300 - actually its US$25 - 37.50. Especially considering 1. Look at your hotel room - looks nice - how much did it cost per night? 2. How much do you spend having meals/drinks/k-ok fees 3. How much did you spend on Plane tickets coming over 4 .For those of you on Vitamin V - your pills costs you what - Yuan 80? 100? 5. How much do spend going in a taxi from Luohu or Huangang to the hotel. (I can go on and on also about how bad off these galls are, how tragic some of their stories are, how these ladies are usually grossly taken advantage of by their pimps, boyfriends - even their own families - but you get my drift)
OK, I understand, of course you do not want to grossly overpay/spoil the market - but Yuan 50 (US$6.00) more or less - do you tip more when having lunch in the States/Europe? And in your case - look-it - you even DATY her. Lets face it guys - when we guys DATY a chick, we are actually paying tribute to her pussy and to her beauty,desireablity and womanhood. How do you pay tribute and squibble about 6 bucks?!
** Most important point** - I'd say most of us on this board are Laowai's or at least "non-locals" even if Chinese. Yes, the gals in the PRC usually try to get us for "more" - and let me suggest that this is actually GOOD! If the chicks don't think that they can get us for more, than they would not "flock" to us. If I was them and if I'm going to be earning the same from the locals - hell, I'd definitely go after and give better service to the locals - in the hope of return/continuing business - and would stay away from "dem Furruners"
So howzabout it guys - let them earn a bit more - and make it easier for all of us generally? OK?
SE Asia Joe

Its not the money that I care (I may be speaking for quite a few members here) but the attitude. When you give these girls more, most of them think you are a sucker, not a nice guy. Even if she tells you how sweet you are and offers to spend more time with you. I have heard them speak to eachother how you are "big spender or (insert slang here) and should definately come to you." They dont tell eachother how nice you are. In China there are alot of slang for foreigners, and beleive me they all have to do with "Idiot who got ripped off." Zai in Chinese means rip off. Those of you who speak Chinese will know what I am talking about. If AJ, you speak as well, I do not mean to patronize. There are other terms as well such as Gang Du, Dai Bao, Kuan Zai, etc etc etc. So just to be safe, we go with what the market will bear. The girl is still happy considering how this is still alot more than an average day office work, and you are also happy. But your point is well taken.

Unknown One
06-21-06, 11:33
I forgot to include the photo of Xiao Hui, 121. Miss Yang 99 I didnt get a chance to take pictures of her. But I am going to go back to see her and see if she will take up my offer for dinner and back to my room.

Old Mean Dog
06-21-06, 16:18
I have been busy the last two weeks, but decided to pickup my favorite working girl again! Not only is she a knockout for a streetwalker, she also owns the sidewalk real close to where I live making it very convenient. Cost is 300 yuan, if your a repeat customer, she will drop it 50. She doesn't like action photos (yet), but I was able to squeeze one shitty one off. If anyone wants her number, please pm me, I will only give it out to those who have contributed something to this forum besides asking where the pussy is.

Cavechu
06-21-06, 17:41
So total cost: 108 (deluxe room with steam bath for 2 hours) +50 (99 tip) +200 (121 tip): 308. Thats all folks!

the way those girls go about their thing remind me of these viet "relaxation" places in california. you should have drilled her while you had her at your sexual DATY mercy....

Unknown One
06-21-06, 19:03
the way those girls go about their thing remind me of these viet "relaxation" places in california. you should have drilled her while you had her at your sexual DATY mercy....

Yeah I know, but havent you ever been in the mood where you just wanted to be serviced like a man by a woman? That is just how I been feeling the last few days and wanted to enjoy it that way.

Moody
06-22-06, 11:39
I don't know if any of you guys have been around the Shui Wei Cun or the Huanggang Cun areas, but both places are loaded with massage joints. If you go to Shui Wei Cun, off of Fuqiang Lu and walk down the street, you'll see about 6 massage joints on that block. If you go left and head towards Huanggang Chun, you'll see another half dozen or so, maybe even more. The basic deal is 100 for a HJ or 300 for FS. I've never really posted about this cuz it seems to be a bit overpriced for what it is. Then again... you do get to waste 2 hours in the room and the girls are occasionally decent at the regular massage too. Every now and then, there are some decent lookers too. I always thought these were legit massage places until I went in and got a foot massage one time. A girl dressed in a VERY short dress came down the stairs and went through a door. Absolutely no reason for a girl to dress like that unless there's some serious hanky panky going on.

I also went by Sha Zui the other day cuz a friend of mine got horny in the middle of the afternoon. From what I remember a couple of years ago, the talent level seems to have improved drastically. There were some VERY pretty girls there when I went by and I'm a picky bastard. How picky am I? Let's just say I don't comment on photos people post anymore cuz all I hear is the familiar "eye of the beholder" crap.

edit:

I was also at the Las Vegas KTV a couple of times on Lian He Guangchang this past week. I have to admit, I was a bit disappointed in the talent. I saw a LOT of very plain looking girls. This is in contrast to last Feb-Mar when there were quite a few stunners. Both times I went, I went through about 5-6 lineups before I reluctantly picked one just to get it over with. To be perfectly honest though, the girls I picked both times were very fun. Personality goes a long way in KTV and I don't regret picking either one of them even though I would only rate them as 5s in looks. Anyway, this is just a heads up to anyone thinking of going over there in the near future.

I also went to Yumingju on Renminbeilu. Contrary to my last time there about 6 months ago, girl talent over there picked up considerably. I got in a fight with my girlfriend that night and she told me to go sleep at a hotel.... I gotta start picking more fights.....

Unknown One
06-22-06, 13:26
[QUOTE=Moody]I don't know if any of you guys have been around the Shui Wei Cun or the Huanggang Cun areas, but both places are loaded with massage joints. If you go to Shui Wei Cun, off of Fuqiang Lu and walk down the street, you'll see about 6 massage joints on that block. If you go left and head towards Huanggang Chun, you'll see another half dozen or so, maybe even more. The basic deal is 100 for a HJ or 300 for FS. I've never really posted about this cuz it seems to be a bit overpriced for what it is. Then again... you do get to waste 2 hours in the room and the girls are occasionally decent at the regular massage too. Every now and then, there are some decent lookers too. I always thought these were legit massage places until I went in and got a foot massage one time. A girl dressed in a VERY short dress came down the stairs and went through a door. Absolutely no reason for a girl to dress like that unless there's some serious hanky panky going on.
QUOTE]

Shui Wei Cun, ahh yes that place. The locals here call it the Mistress Village. At night it is very very busy, and girls are just hanging all over the streets (at least when I last met up with a girl who invited me over there last year ). Some girls are very very good looking, others are so so. But I saw quite a few beauties out there that night. It is mostly populated by HK business men who come here on business and have their mistresses here. Alot of these girls are available to be "rented" for long term basis (i.e. monthly for example) Last I checked with some associates, for 3000 a month you can get an ok girl, for 5000 a month you can get quite a stunner. Problem is (and this is from speculation) you have no idea how many other guys are renting your girl at the same time. Anybody ever tried this route before?

RasSpewtin
06-22-06, 20:35
[QUOTE=Member #1346][QUOTE=Moody]I don't know if any of you guys have been around the Shui Wei Cun or the Huanggang Cun areas, but both places are loaded with massage joints. If you go to Shui Wei Cun, off of Fuqiang Lu and walk down the street.......QUOTE]

I have been to SZ oodles of times, but I confess that I have no idea where is Shui Wei Cun, Huanggang Cun, or Fuqiang Lu. However, I do like the idea of a variety of massage places to choose from.

Sorry if this comes across as lazy, but does anyone have a soft copy of a map on which you might be able to highlight these areas, and post it? I already tried my so-so paper map, and could not find these places.

Raz

Csun213
06-23-06, 00:52
Hate to say this - and do apologize if I perhaps cause offense - but really guys - how much is Yuan 200 or 300 - actually its US$25 - 37.50. Especially considering 1. Look at your hotel room - looks nice - how much did it cost per night? 2. How much do you spend having meals/drinks/k-ok fees 3. How much did you spend on Plane tickets coming over 4 .For those of you on Vitamin V - your pills costs you what - Yuan 80? 100? 5. How much do spend going in a taxi from Luohu or Huangang to the hotel. (I can go on and on also about how bad off these galls are, how tragic some of their stories are, how these ladies are usually grossly taken advantage of by their pimps, boyfriends - even their own families - but you get my drift)
OK, I understand, of course you do not want to grossly overpay/spoil the market - but Yuan 50 (US$6.00) more or less - do you tip more when having lunch in the States/Europe? And in your case - look-it - you even DATY her. Lets face it guys - when we guys DATY a chick, we are actually paying tribute to her pussy and to her beauty,desireablity and womanhood. How do you pay tribute and squibble about 6 bucks?!
** Most important point** - I'd say most of us on this board are Laowai's or at least "non-locals" even if Chinese. Yes, the gals in the PRC usually try to get us for "more" - and let me suggest that this is actually GOOD! If the chicks don't think that they can get us for more, than they would not "flock" to us. If I was them and if I'm going to be earning the same from the locals - hell, I'd definitely go after and give better service to the locals - in the hope of return/continuing business - and would stay away from "dem Furruners"
So howzabout it guys - let them earn a bit more - and make it easier for all of us generally? OK?
SE Asia Joe


I do agree giving a gril a tip if her performance are good however I would not just tip a girl just for being there. I always bring the girl back to my hotel since I feel more comfortable there and will always give a girl taxi money (20) regardless of how I like her performance. Most of the guys know that if the girl go through the mamas or pimp at the rooms or BBs, she only gets a set rate regardless how much you agree to with the mamason. One of the mamason that I use normally charge us 400rmb to take the girls back to our hotel room (this was a few years ago), we keep going back to her since she has a lot of very pretty girls. Then I found out later that the girls were only getting 100rmb no matter how much we give to the mamason. This is why I always get the girl's phone number so I can call the girl this way she gets all the money. One bad thing is that I have a couple of regular girls that I see whenever I come to SZ and have always paid them 400rmb and now the rates have dropped but I still have to pay my regular girls 400rmb each time since I think it would be bad taste to drop the price down to 200rmb since that is what I am paying my new regular girls now.

Bill Lee
06-23-06, 04:00
digging into a ho and you can't get out of it.

I envy you CSUN.

Bill



I do agree giving a gril a tip if her performance are good however I would not just tip a girl just for being there. I always bring the girl back to my hotel since I feel more comfortable there and will always give a girl taxi money (20) regardless of how I like her performance. Most of the guys know that if the girl go through the mamas or pimp at the rooms or BBs, she only gets a set rate regardless how much you agree to with the mamason. One of the mamason that I use normally charge us 400rmb to take the girls back to our hotel room (this was a few years ago), we keep going back to her since she has a lot of very pretty girls. Then I found out later that the girls were only getting 100rmb no matter how much we give to the mamason. This is why I always get the girl's phone number so I can call the girl this way she gets all the money. One bad thing is that I have a couple of regular girls that I see whenever I come to SZ and have always paid them 400rmb and now the rates have dropped but I still have to pay my regular girls 400rmb each time since I think it would be bad taste to drop the price down to 200rmb since that is what I am paying my new regular girls now.