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Thomas Jefferson
09-01-06, 16:28
A small map on the back of the card, and some writing. I assume the 24 means 24 hours a day?! Someone else can translate please.Yes, it says 24 hours open.
Gentlemen
I am traveling to Shenzhen and will be staying at the Pavillion Hotel. Is there any action around this hotel?
Thanks
Harmsuploe
09-01-06, 19:11
A small map on the back of the card, and some writing. I assume the 24 means 24 hours a day?! Someone else can translate please.Yes, open 24 hours a day. Government registered. After 1 AM, with some kind of double service (can't read the character, too fuzzy) you can stay overnight for free.
I have noticed a reduction of action in recent weeks. Mongers who have visited recently will have noticed almost all, if not all KTV's have closed down. I'm told it was due to a fire in one of the KTV's in which one or more Hong Kong people were injured. The local authorities had thus closed down/not renewed licences of the KTV's due to fire regulations.
The KTV's are supposedly a large attraction for customers. With those presently no longer active, the number of women have started to dwindle.
There has been a slow movement of Sha Zui women to a place called Sa Wan. I have yet to visit. It is approx 15 min. by taxi from Lou Hu train station. In Sa Wan, there are now 2 pricings: Original Sa Wan gals: 100RMB, and previous Sha Zui gals: 150RMB. How does one differentiate?
Sa Wan - a potential up and coming area.
Regarding the Hong Kong man who had his leg chopped, rumor has it that he paid for a mistress from Sha Zui on a monthly basis. However, he pulled out after the first month and disappeared on the Sha Zui woman. Once a monger, always a monger. As the guy later returned to Sha Zui, he was found out. They confronted him to pay a penalty for ditching the woman early. He refused to pay and was thus attacked.
A piece of advice to Mongers - remain in a low profile and stay away from confrontations.
OldAsiaHand
09-02-06, 04:30
I have slept there a few times in the past, but you cannot lock the door and the rooms do not have a private bathroom. There are many better options for sleeping over with VIP rooms in Shenzhen for a few bucks more.
Manfest, yes they are is open 24 hour a day. Interestingly, maybe, they also advertise that after 1 am, any customer choosing a 2 hours service formula may enjoy free stay overnight.
OldAsiaHand
09-02-06, 04:33
Sa Wan - a potential up and coming area.
Thorr,
Can you please post some more details on the location of this place? Thanks.
OAH
Brothers, I will be in Shenzhen starting around September 12. I would like to hit up the Dick Wash places in LoWu (pink apartments), and probably Sha Tsui area.
I also would like to make for some time to hit Dongguan or ChangPing areas too.
So, if any of you want to meet, send me a private message, and let me know if I should buy a bottle of Duty Free scotch or whiskey on my flight to China.
Dar
ps - later, around September 17, I will probably go to Shanghai for 2 nights. My 1st visit to Shanghai, so if you have good advice about Shanghai, PM me.
This is he massage place OAH recommended. It is a great place for a relaxing clean foot massage and back muscle kneading. No happy ending. Enjoy!
From Train station take Medium bus 442, 473
Big bus 372, 337, 313, 312, 364, 28, 23 to Binghe road Gingfu building
Shttle service plate number: B9U219
Open 24 hours
(Government registered)
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CC1024
OAH,
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I haven't been there myself. I'm told it's like a mini Sha Zui. Mostly KTV's. It is beside the Luo Hu District. I'm presently in Shanghai, so haven't been able to visit it.
I don't know the location of the place, but I can tell you how to get there.
In the back exit of Sha Zui (If you enter by taxi through the main entrance where you pass under the big gate, get out and walk along the main street into Sha Zui. Walk on that main street until you get to the other end), they have private cars that take people to the Huang Guang border crossing for 20RMB. They can also take you to the Sa Wan area for 50RMB, the standard price. Driving from Sha Jui to Sa Wan, I do know they have to pass through Luo Hu to get there. The private drivers are all familar with Sa Wan (This is the Cantonese pronounciation). Sorry I don't know the directions myself. Also, the private driver will automatically know where to take you to in Sa Wan, (ie. KTV area).
The private cars are typically at the back of Sha Zui in the evening, after about 8pm until 2: 30am, then again around 6 or 7 am when all the Hong Kong guys wake up from the massage parlours to go back to work in Hong Kong. The private cars aren't there in the early afternoon. You'll notice a group of people gathered near the exit waiting to encourage customers to get into their vehicles. As a rule, make sure you confirm the price before entering the car.
Sha Zui to Huang Guang Border crossing - 20RMB
Sha Zui to Lou Hu - 30RMB (you'll need to tell them where exactly in Luo Hu)
Sha Zui to Sa Wan - 50RMB
When mentioning the price, state the price with confidence as if you are a regular user.
I've used their service many times without problems. Their services are typically used by both Hong Kong guys going back to Hong Kong and the ladies that do outcalls for their frequent customers.
If you try the private cars inside the Sha Zui gated area, they will try to charge you a little more (+5 to 10RMB) as they have to pay a 1500RMB monthly parking permit to enter into the Sha Zui area. You can stand firm on the price or it just takes a 2 minute walk to the back, outside the gated area for the better price.
Thorr,
Can you please post some more details on the location of this place? Thanks.
OAH
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Thorr,
This Sa Wan place sound interesting and would like to do some exploration. Will be in Shenzhen in October maybe fellows mongers would like to go together.
How do you go to Sa Wan from Vienna Hotel in Futian where I normally stay?
Thanks.
Here's my report on Sa Wan, I had always reffered to this place as Sam Wan until I saw a road sign with Sha Wan.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=489639&highlight=sam+wan#post489639
I was there last night around 8pm but it was too late to get a room, as stated in other threads most of my usual KTV hangouts have closed so we have been going to this area more often.
Great food, cheap prices you should give it a go.
Bob Builder
09-03-06, 15:55
how can the editor suggest posting thorr抯 report to reports of distinction without him even ever having been there? is this the international sex guide or international taxi guide?
i have been there a few times over the last few months and can confirm that it is a waste of time.
it is an old hong kong monger area and will suit those that like to frequent old rundown ktvs with smelly rooms and bad service. booze is cheap.
location, it is not in lo hu, it is one of the border crossings that separates shenzhen from the rest of china and the action is outside the border. it is the border crossing that is just past east lake (east lake hotel) and takes about 20 minutes from lo hu. cost of normal taxi is rmb40 but can negotiate to rmb35 from lo hu. rmb50 from huang guang. most taxis will drop you off at an overbridge 500 meters from the border, where the main street is.
ktv cost is standard 1-3-6. go early of you want better selection as going after 8pm will guarantee that you will be wasting your time. well known ktvs ?expensive flower?in expensive flower hotel and red sun?literal translations). there is another more expensive ktv that is 2-5-8 but i forget the name. won't give pin yin or cantonese as i will leave it up to the language teachers here to argue over the tones. gal talent is mixed, but the general rule is the prettier they are the badder the service. many are goldfish and won't even do short time or let you touch them. most are recruited from a nearby disco and are on drugs like ketamine. fun, if you want to see gals high on k, non-stop dancing for hours on end in between bouts of depression and crying.
i was there last week at a ktv after 9pm and they were lucky to get 2 gals per lineup in the room. did a tour of the ktv and peeked in the rooms and most were full of mongers waiting for gals to view. normally if there is talent to be had there will be gals waiting in the lounge.
crackdown, yes the dreaded crackdown also effects this area and has been blamed for the lack of talent, but i have been there before this and it was already hit and miss. the only reason for going is that one of my buddies does one of the mamas there for free who is a hot solid nine and all the gals are dogs by comparison.
definitely not a place to recommend. lao wei exposure ?0.
Bob Builder
09-03-06, 16:02
Just saw it after I posted. Could be better in the afternoon as we had originally planned to go at 2pm but had to wait.
He was most likely at "Expensive Flower" KTV which is near the end of the street up the hill from the overbridge.
Too hit and miss for my liking and I go with a guy who has been frequenting there for over 10 years. But he doesn't mind if he doesn't get a gal as he gets off on drinking with the managers and mamas.
I'm back at home, dreaming about my great time in China and Macau (not as good). A few FR left to describe.
I ended up staying at the Hedong hotel, officially in Lowu area, but further north than the HK customs area, near the Diwang building/BBS area. Pretty close to JUSCO. The hotel is a 3 star, ok rooms, some with a view. It is very convenient for many mongering activities, and very girl friendly. They provide breakfast for 2 guests, even if you check in alone, if you get what I mean. Also, they keep calling your room in the evening to ask about a massage!
On the second floor, there is a kinda BBS that have the "masseuse". About 6 girls in the 27-30 year old range, but still about 4-6 beauty range, 2 with great big tatas! I tried one in my room for a worthless massage then straight to mish FS. This is a quick release with no extra massage even with time left on the clock. OK experience, and very convenient considering the weather. Total damage was 250 RMB. Not bad for a hotel experience.
This is an OK hotel. Very little English spoken at the front. Internet access in each room (for your laptop), but no safe. I introduced Mexhopper to the hotel, and he thought it pretty good as well. I suppose he'll comment on his own. One more report in the Macau thread.
Cheers everyone,
M
Hi, Can you provide an address for Hedong Hotel and may be more information on it?
Is it clean? What's the Chinese name for this hotel?
How can the Editor suggest posting Thorr抯 report to Reports of Distinction without him even ever having been there? Is this the International Sex Guide or International Taxi Guide?
I think the editor is trying to reinforce new members so they will feel welcome, continue to post and become paying members.
Can you provide an address for Hedong Hotel and may be more information on it?
Is it clean? What's the Chinese name for this hotel?I don't want to sound like an ad for this place. Mexhopper stayed there too, and Wadman and SZexpat drove to it, so they saw the lobby. I thought the rooms clean, but understand it is a 3 star, so don't expect too much.
Some details I forgot. There are condoms and finger toys available in the bathrooms (for sale). Also, it is about a 5 minute walk to the metro. Pretty convenient. Someone mentioned the Metropark service apartment nearby and couldn't say enough nice things to say about it. I may check this place out next time. Hope that helps. Some Chinese names and small map.
-M
I don't want to sound like an ad for this place. Mexhopper stayed there too, and Wadman and SZexpat drove to it, so they saw the lobby. I thought the rooms clean, but understand it is a 3 star, so don't expect too much.
Some details I forgot. There are condoms and finger toys available in the bathrooms (for sale). Also, it is about a 5 minute walk to the metro. Pretty convenient. Someone mentioned the Metropark service apartment nearby and couldn't say enough nice things to say about it. I may check this place out next time. Hope that helps. Some Chinese names and small map.
-MHi Manfest,
Do you know the name of the metrostation?
Dicky
Old Mean Dog
09-04-06, 17:01
Hi Manfest,
Do you know the name of the metrostation?
DickyIt's Dajuyuan Station, exit via C3 and traverse across the Mixc Shopping Plaza, exiting outside next to the Hagen Daaz Ice Cream Shop. You will then be at the intersection of Jiabin Lu and Ba'oan Nan Lu cross over to Jiabin Lu and turn left on first street past the stank ass river. The hotel is just down the street on your right.
There is some other decent 3 star hotels that are girl friendly as well at Guo Mao Station, exit via A go up to first level, past the KFC and on street level you will be in front of two hotels which are across the street called Renmin Lu . I have been told both of these are good and within walking distance of about 6 really good discos.
There is another one on South Dongmen Lu before you get to the overpass and customs area (It's next to the Greenery Cafe). This one is good as this street all the way back to the Panglin (old Hilton) Hotel is a great spot for many top shelf streetwalkers, average price is ST 300 but you have a good mix of pro's and office girls trying to make a few extra bucks.
I'll try to get the exact names and prices if I pass them and post here.
Here is a good metro map:
http://www.szmc.net/10station/index.jsp
-SZE
I found a relaxed bar in Shekou, where money is not the big issue (It is not the bar with the party photo I posted in the photo section!) They have about 10 girls, you can drink and chat with them. A beer is 15, a ladies drink 15-18. LT is 500 (400 for the girl and 100 for the bar), ST(1 hour) is 200 with rooms upstairs.
I had 2 beers and 1 drink for the girl, 48 rmb. I paid 100 HK$ and they returned 55 RMB. More than fair. Location: Shang Le Jie ( 商乐街 ), not far from Shui Wan Bao Li Bing Guan, a decent hotel where a room costs 160 RMB. About 2 km from the ferry.
Hi, Can you provide an address for Hedong Hotel and may be more information on it?
Is it clean? What's the Chinese name for this hotel?Hello,
I saw you were looking for information about Hedong Hotel.
here are some http://www.chinahotels.net/shenzhen/hedong-hotel.html
I lived ther in juli for 5 days , it was very good except for the breakfast , if you not are chinese.
Around 8pm every day a girl call me at my room and said, massage ok?
Then she came to my room and started to massage, later she ask me for extras , you can have full service for 300 extra!
Regards,
Buttlover
I found a relaxed bar in Shekou, where money is not the big issue (It is not the bar with the party photo I posted in the photo section!) They have about 10 girls, you can drink and chat with them. A beer is 15, a ladies drink 15-18. LT is 500 (400 for the girl and 100 for the bar), ST(1 hour) is 200 with rooms upstairs.
I had 2 beers and 1 drink for the girl, 48 rmb. I paid 100 HK$ and they returned 55 RMB. More than fair. Location: Shang Le Jie ( 商乐街 ), not far from Shui Wan Bao Li Bing Guan, a decent hotel where a room costs 160 RMB. About 2 km from the ferry.
Is this between the Shekou ferry and Seaworld (boat and western restaurants etc) where there are a lot of bars or is it past Seaworld?
Is this between the Shekou ferry and Seaworld (boat and western restaurants etc) where there are a lot of bars or is it past Seaworld?It is long past sea world, otherwise it wouldn't be around 2 kilometers. The bars round Nanhai hotel are way not that relaxed. There are only 2-3 bars in this road, and only this one has this setup. Tell the taxi driver to go to Shui3 wan1 bao3 li4 bin1 guan2 (see the attached namecard), walk out of the hotel to your right and turn left on the first corner (shang1 le4 jie1). The bar is after 100 metres on your left. But there is not much (if any) English spoken. One of the girls remembered me from a visit 10 months back, still knew what I told her where I came from and what my name was and which friends I was with.
One of my friends optet for ST upstairs (I don't like ST too much) and then said the towels were not clean enough for him to use.
Fast Eddie 48
09-05-06, 07:49
It is long past sea world, otherwise it wouldn't be around 2 kilometers. The bars round Nanhai hotel are way not that relaxed. There are only 2-3 bars in this road, and only this one has this setup. Tell the taxi driver to go to Shui3 wan1 bao3 li4 bin1 guan2 (see the attached namecard), walk out of the hotel to your right and turn left on the first corner (shang1 le4 jie1). The bar is after 100 metres on your left. But there is not much (if any) English spoken. One of the girls remembered me from a visit 10 months back, still knew what I told her where I came from and what my name was and which friends I was with.
One of my friends optet for ST upstairs (I don't like ST too much) and then said the towels were not clean enough for him to use.
to tiger 1
I been this bar last yr and There are bbs near by girls in this area is very old
and average ,I leave after one drink didn't anything I want and head to sha
tsui , Not too many foriegn go there most go to the bar near sea world and
you can walk here from sea world about 15 min .
fast eddie 48
to tiger 1
I been this bar last yr and There are bbs near by girls in this area is very old
and average ,I leave after one drink didn't anything I want and head to sha
tsui , Not too many foriegn go there most go to the bar near sea world and
you can walk here from sea world about 15 min .
fast eddie 48If you left after the first drink, you might not have seen all the girls. They come and go. There are also sometimes young girls. It is true that there are not many foreigners, thats why they dont have the all hazzles you get at or beyond sea world.
RasSpewtin
09-05-06, 09:05
Last night was business as usual in Sha Tsui. There was one incident when the girls scurried away as they spotted the Gong An, but their fears were quickly abated as the cop walked to the next alley way. I toured the alleys for a little longer than usual this time, probably because I have not been hassled at all during my last 6 visits there in the past 2 months.
I spotted a beautiful young girl having her toe nails painted with tiny fukkin murals, and decided to stop and chat. Turns out she was from Chongqing, and I do indeed have a weakness for CQ girls. She told me that she would be free in 5 minutes, so I wandered around while she waited for her kinky little toes to dry. When finished with her toe painting party, she walked across the alley and demurely planted her ass on a stool in front of a pseudo-barbershop. I sauntered up to her, and candidly inquired if she would like to make love. She asked me to repeat my question to her, which I then did. She then replied, “Make love, what does it mean?” Being in the center of a fuck-Mecca, I was feeling more than a little puzzled by her evasion of the coital question.
But there are several hundred more where she came from in the hallowed village known as Sha Tsui, so onwards and upwards. I had only to walk around the corner, when I spotted a vision of youthful loveliness. She was an apparition from Hunan, which is generally not the home of girls that provide the best service in my humble fucking experience. But she was cheerful, did a perfectly good job of pretending that she was happy to see me, and I felt that her fledgling actress skills deserved a nice big reward. After all, if you are a lao wai you grow accustomed to the cold shoulder in Sha Tsui, owing to some malicious rumour that we are overly endowed. Generalizations, I tell you, are a dangerous thing. But this little flower from the home of Mao was eager and willing to accompany me, so I felt that seven or so inches of thank you’s were in order.
In the room, she was playful but a little hesitant. She kept inspecting me, and the more aroused I became during the BBBJ, the more she hinted that it might be good if I could manage a pop in world record time. Hmmhhh, it was time to put her fears to rest. I tried to relax her with a carefully applied tongue massage, but she wouldn’t have any of it; just too shy. I convinced her that it would be fun, if only for a minute. She hesitantly consented, and only five short minutes later she was having spasms and babbling something in Fulanhua that was probably the equivalent of ‘holy shit that feels good’. I had made one of Mao’s children happy indeed. And in return, she made me very happy for the next 15 minutes or so (or was it 15 seconds, I forget).
I don’t often tip the girls, but I gave this one an extra 20 for having a great attitude and for being amenable to letting me get her off.
Next was a stop at the local oyster bake restaurant, the same place that OAH talked about in a previous post. These guys make great oysters, and the staff is cheerful and helpful. It is also pretty common to encounter one or two Hong Kong mongers in this restaurant, and swapping stories can be fun. The latest chatter is that the locals feel that they need to be much more cautious, as there have been some payola scams of late. Some of them reckon that it might be safer for foreigners, but I would not want to vouch for the veracity of that statement.
So although I have had several decent experiences in Sha Tsui of late, I am beginning to take note of some of the renewed indications that Sha Tsui may not be the safest place in Shenzhen to play. Proceed with caution.
Raz
Old Mean Dog
09-05-06, 18:22
I took a client to the area behind JUSCO tonight because he had never seen a BBS and was interested in getting a massage that offered extra services. After checking out the BBS's, which were very lame, I noticed only 3 shops open and the girls were just playing cards and didn't really give a damn, we decided to checkout the massage joints.
I remember reading about one, that I think OAH posted about awhile ago with the waterfall in the window. We found one like this facing JUSCO and went in to have a look, they offered about 35 girls, all sitting in a little room upstairs. Many sweet ones to choose from, but the place was hot as hell and I don't like to sweat.
We tried the place next door with the waterfall in the lobby, they had A/C but only 5 girls on duty so we passed on that one.
Finally, we found another one with a waterfall in the window, kind of directly across from the 7-11. This place had good A/C and about 25 girls to choose from. We did a lineup and I chose a Hunan hottie named PingPing.
The VIP room was 80 yuan (2 hour massage) and had a shower in it, decent bed, good A/C and a TV. If you choose the lesser priced one (50 yuan), you have to go down to the next floor to take a shower.
After an hour into the massage, PingPing offered me a HJ for 100 yuan and I told her that was a waste of my time. She really seemed to enjoy the laowai and we had been having a fun conversation during the massage, even though my Chinese is bu hao, so when I showed her the universal symbol for FS, she initially said 300 yuan. I told her that was B.S. and that I could get it across the street for 150 yuan, she quickly dropped the price to 200 and I agreed.
Brothers, I am preaching the gospel when I tell you, she was the tightest thing I've had in China thus far. I can tell she didn't normally do FS because she asked me for a condom! Anyway, quite a lovely little thing. After we did the business, we talked a bit. Seems she has only been in Shenzhen less than 2 months, has a bf here but he does not know what she does, I was her first laowai to massage and certainly the first to have sex with. The last two I've had at massage joints only wanted to remove their panties, but this little thing was eager to remove all her clothes and try many positions.
Name: PingPing
Province: Hunan
Age: 22
Body: 8 out of 10 about 5'2" very nice breasts, far more than a handful with nice erect nipples. Nice tight ass, she trimmed the bush a little as it was very even, nice smooth shaved legs. She had a very sweet baby face and applied just the right amount of makeup and jewerly (i.e. 2 small and 1 larger earring in each ear).
Skills: 7 out of 10. Many different positions, CBJ, CFS
Attitude: 9 out of 10, Attitude makes all the difference in the world and she was delightful.
Price: 6 Pretty good 80 yuan for 2 hours in room and 200 yuan for FS.
Overall Conclusion: I will certainly be going back and calling on her again.
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Calvin Hobbs
09-05-06, 19:33
Does any one know good mongering places in Baoan City? I'm staying at the Hengfeng Haiyue International Hotel. My first visit there. I could use some advise.
I took a client to the area behind JUSCO tonight because he had never seen a BBS and was interested in getting a massage that offered extra services.
Brothers, I am preaching the gospel when I tell you, she was the tightest thing I've had in China thus far.
Overall Conclusion: I will certainly be going back and calling on her again.Hi Szexpat,
Great report. I for one will comment that you have a talent in picking up high quality (based on your previous posts, pictures, and our expedition). Mexhopper thought so too (hahaha). So, if you thought this place good, I'll be sure to try it out next time. I remember we walked around this area, but didn't try any, too bad. I just looked through your posts and want to catch up with the SW with big tatas when I return! I don't know how I missed that picture before.
Cheers,
M
Thomas Jefferson
09-06-06, 16:48
Someone mentioned the Metropark service apartment nearby and couldn't say enough nice things to say about it. I may check this place out next time.
MThe metropark service hotel has great room. very big. prices around 50-80 usd per night.
they offer massage in the room for 88 rmb/hour. after 50 min. they will ask if you want special and than call another girl. cost 300 rmb/hour. they have many girls and very good service. you can call them from the room and just ask for pretty girls if you want to skip the massage. the girls will also stay overnight, but i never asked the price for this.
RasSpewtin
09-07-06, 04:17
Mr. Jefferson:
I did a search of the forum, but could not find the address of the Metropark Hotel. Could you please share the city and street address if you could?
By the way, that was some good work that you did in the ovum office (or is it oval office? I always get the two mised up). That declaration thingy with the bit about the four score and blah blah blah really kicked ass!
Raz
The metropark service hotel has great room. very big. prices around 50-80 usd per night.
they offer massage in the room for 88 rmb/hour. after 50 min. they will ask if you want special and than call another girl. cost 300 rmb/hour. they have many girls and very good service. you can call them from the room and just ask for pretty girls if you want to skip the massage. the girls will also stay overnight, but i never asked the price for this.
Mr. Jefferson:
I did a search of the forum, but could not find the address of the Metropark Hotel. Could you please share the city and street address if you could?
By the way, that was some good work that you did in the ovum office (or is it oval office? I always get the two mised up). That declaration thingy with the bit about the four score and blah blah blah really kicked ass!
RazI have no idea where the Metropark Service Hotel is. In such cases I usually ask google. Here the answer is (among others) http://www.24-hotel.com.cn/ebeijing/ehotel_info.asp?Nes_user_id=100426&hotel_id=0835
Hint: I entered "Metropark Service Hotel" Shenzhen
Few additional things that I heard. As mentioned, there are massage services, front desk is friendly and speaks English, 4 stars so much nicer rooms, safe in room, internet in every room. One down side, they station someone at the elevators at 11pm and block additional "guests", so all deals need to be concluded before then. Many good restaurants in and around this place, apparently right across the street from the Dongmen market place, so very busy and lively area. Have not heard about clubs and bars near it, though.
-M
Old Mean Dog
09-07-06, 14:00
Few additional things that I heard. As mentioned, there are massage services, front desk is friendly and speaks English, 4 stars so much nicer rooms, safe in room, internet in every room. One down side, they station someone at the elevators at 11pm and block additional "guests", so all deals need to be concluded before then. Many good restaurants in and around this place, apparently right across the street from the Dongmen market place, so very busy and lively area. Have not heard about clubs and bars near it, though.
-MThe Metropark is located across Dongmen Lu from the main shopping street. One of the better nightclubs there is True Colors: Dongmen, less than 10 minute walk from the hotel at the other end of the shopping area, it sits opposite McDonalds and KFC. Usually lots of nice hotties in there.
Thanks M for the words, I'll do my best to continue researching BBS's and not so legit massage joints, so the next time you come over we can try several places. I bought a few hits of Viagra at the drugstore today, figure I'll find a test subject and report back later. Be Safe
Does anyone know when is the Fair Guangzhou? Trying to avoid this time frame. Posted this Guangzhou site also.
You so lazy.
Googled:
http://www.cantonfair.org.cn/en/index.asp
Date:
Venue:
Phase I: Oct. 15-20, 2006 Phase II: Oct. 25-30, 2006
Chinese Export Commodities Fair (Pazhou) Complex
Chinese Export Commodities Fair (Liuhua) Complex
Categories: Industrial Products, Textiles & Garments, Medicines & Health Products, Consumer Goods, Gifts
Canton Fair Sections of the 100th Session
Bill
Does anyone know when is the Fair Guangzhou? Trying to avoid this time frame. Posted this Guangzhou site also.
Old Mean Dog
09-08-06, 04:45
Hello All,
I went with a client to the Dragon House Massage Joint last night. This place is located on South Renmin St. (3 minute walk from Guo Mao Subway Station) and is in the building directly behind the Starbucks and adjacent to the Wal-Mart. The place is touted as being a favorite of the Hong Kong folk, but to be honest, I have been in much better massage places around town and 2 are just a few blocks away from this place.
This joint does allow overnight sleep, which is good if you need a cheap place to crash for the night. The facility is a bit old looking and the whirlpool was only "warm", we asked for them to turn it up, but they said it could not.
The foot massage area was far to lit up, very bright, not conducive to a massage joint. They seemed to be short staffed as well, I had to wait 15 minutes for the foot massage (this was a Thursday night at 11 pm). Staff was friendly and some did speak English, like the floor managers (pit bosses?) and a couple of the 18 year old girls working there (fresh out of high school I would assume).
The standard massage was 88 yuan for a two hour body massage and 38 yuan for a one hour foot massage. We opted for the oily massage which was 128 yuan and includes the foot massage.
The rooms were clean and decent; the bed was the larger Thai style bed. My girl was a nice looking Hunan girl (seems Hunan girls are the massage experts) of 30 years old named Chun Rong, divorced with a 3 year old baby girl. She was very nice looking and had a good attitude. Massage skills were very good and she was not shy! After 1 1/2 hours into the massage she asked if I wanted a HJ with the remaining oil for 100 yuan, I agreed this time as I was too tired to go searching for FS.
Overall, I would rate this place a 6; personally, I would not go back again.
It seems that Massage Joints come in 3 flavors here:
1. Legit Massage Joints where absolutely no extra services are offered.
2. Semi Legit Massage Joints where HJ's are on the menu.
3. Not So Legit Massage Joints where anything goes.
-SZE
I decided to head back to HK via SZ, as I was in GZ at the time. I took the train to SZ and met my SZ pen pal friend (met a few times before) at the SZ train station. We walked around and did some shopping and ate some lunch. SZ friend then had another girlfriend meet up with us at the lunch place. SZ friend kept telling me how "pretty" her other friend was, and that I would really like her. Well, I found out that the friend was not as hot as the SZ gal, and that the friend didn't really want to talk to me. LOL. Whatever.
After this interesting encounter, SZ's friend went off by herself and I spent some time with SZ gal on my own. Finally, I said my goodbye to SZ gal and got a little feel, and told her I would call her when I made it to HK.
I went back to the SZ train station and got some stuff out from the luggage lockers. BTW, the luggage lockers are pretty secure at the SZ train station. I had my suitcase and a $3000 laptop in the luggage locker and it was safe. I do not remember the exact price for a piece of luggage, I think it was 40 RMB a piece? (not sure) but it was cheap and secure.
I wanted to check out Mark Mason's pink high rises, so I walked upstairs and then out by the bus station area at the train station. I had to walk down the street against a barrier and then cross two lanes of traffic, to get across to the pink high rise section of the street. The pink high rises were hard to miss, however. So, I crossed the street and ended up on the other side where there seemed to be a subway entrance.
There were 3 mama's hanging around. One ran right up to me and said "you want a massage? " I said yes, lets go. She took my arm and led me down the street, then we hung a right and walked down a side street with some medium high walls. Finally we took a left into a courtyard (the location of the pink high rises). There was a guard in a little guard box at the entrance too.
This scene was pretty interesting. There were TONS of hookers hanging out in the open, and there were a few stores and open area restaurants where they were literally almost falling out of. I had a quick scan and guessed that out of 40 or 50, there were maybe 5 that were pretty hot. The rest weren't that good looking. In hindsight, I should have indicated to the mama that I wanted her to hook me up with a hot one from those I saw? I wonder if that would have worked?
Anyway, the mama took me down the courtyard street part way, and then we hung a left into an apartment building. Up some dark steps and then into a heavily locked apartment. It was hot outside and inside. She turned on a fan. We agreed on 150 RMB and she went to get some girls. She locked me inside the apt. While she went out! . I was a bit nervous about this, as I thought, "geez, I am locked inside here. " But the mama was legit.
She came back with a gal that had a nice rack but was a bit chunky. I declined. Mama went back out and locked me in again. She came back with a more slender gal with decent chest, she was more cute. I said okay. Mama left. The gal indicated that I should take shower, so I went to the bathroom and took a shower. I took my wallet with me LOL. I came back and asked the gal to take a shower, but she would not. She indicated for me to take off my clothes. She took off her clothes, and lay down on the bed mat and spread her legs. She indicated that I should hurry up and get inside her. This is where I made a change. As I was crouched over her, I could smell her pussy. It did NOT smell good. I'm not sure if it was just sweat, but I could smell it and it didn't smell good. So I decided not to partake. Instead, I indicated that the gal should give me a handjob. She was pissed. She gave the worse HJ I have ever had. She kept stopping and complaining, which made it take even longer! But I had a lot built up. I indicated if she just CONTINUED then it would be over soon. When I finally popped, it was funny. I shot a load straight up into the air and onto her face. She was pissed. You should have seen her jump back. But I still got her. Haha. I cleaned up and then the mama came back and walked me back to the same place she met me. She was a cool mama.
PS. I tried to get a pic of the gal and Mama but they freaked out and indicated no pics. Later, I tried to get a pic of just the gal, but she had a bad attitude and wasn't into it. So, when the mama came back to get me, I pretended to check my phone and then snapped a pic of the empty small room. Enjoy.
I took the train back to HK and then called my HK working gal when I got to my hotel in HK. She came over at midnight and we simply went to sleep, we were both tired. Saved sex for the next morning. The price? You will have to wait for next post. More to come.
Superforce99
09-08-06, 06:54
Launchnow,
From your pic and description, that might have been the same mama and the
same apt I was in! Ha ha...too bad you didn't have a good time and next time
you should push for 100RMB ST, cause that's the normal price in that area.
130 RMB if you don't want to haggle.
J
Has anyone ever tried the sauna/massage and the ktv at the Century Plaza Hotel. I always stay there but never tried them. The ktv is on the third or fourth floor. The massage/sauna is on the street level just outside the hotel. If so, PM me.
The hotel is girl friendly except for a few nights a week when this A##hole plain clothes security guy work there and tries to questions guest bringing back bedwarmers back for the night. The last time he tries to question me, i call the night manager over and just chew him up for harassing the guest.
Will be there next month.
Has anyone ever tried the sauna/massage and the ktv at the Century Plaza Hotel. I always stay there but never tried them. The ktv is on the third or fourth floor. The massage/sauna is on the street level just outside the hotel. If so, PM me.
The hotel is girl friendly except for a few nights a week when this A##hole plain clothes security guy work there and tries to questions guest bringing back bedwarmers back for the night. The last time he tries to question me, i call the night manager over and just chew him up for harassing the guest.
Will be there next month.
I've been to both. KTV is one of the better ones in the city. Tips are a bit on the high side with some girls getting 500. If you want to take them back, it's negotiable, but around 1500-3000. Girls are very pretty though, and usually very fashionable too. The sauna is pretty much a legit sauna. No hanky panky although, I can't be 100% sure about that. When they massage you, they get awfully close to your package and the girls expect tips of 100-200. The one time I asked, they said "no," but perhaps I wasn't forceful enough. If you want legit sauna in Luohu, go to Queen Sauna. It's much better and probably cheaper.
Haha Interesting Johnny!
It was so freaking hot. And, I was actually pretty scared at first being "locked inside" the apartment. Did the mama do that to you too? I had visions of her returning with some dudes to rob me. Fortunately that did not happen.
The mama was middle aged, plump and very friendly. I had her business card but accidentally through it away.
Finally, thanks again to Mark MASON for pointing out the pink apts. It was very interesting to see them in person. The courtyard with all those hookers is amazing. I wanted to take a pic in the courtyard, but yeah, they would all say WTF if a tourist started doing that. I think time would freeze and they would all stare at me. Ha.
Launch
Launchnow,
From your pic and description, that might have been the same mama and the
same apt I was in! Ha ha...too bad you didn't have a good time and next time
you should push for 100RMB ST, cause that's the normal price in that area.
130 RMB if you don't want to haggle.
J
There is an older, formally 4 star hotel, near the Century Plaza. It is called the Shenzhen Huizhange Hotel. It is next door to the ShangriLa Hotel, has two lions out front. The building has been divided up. The small hotels are now located on the 11th, 13th and 30th floors, etc. Nice big rooms, reasonably clean and very cheap.
I think I paid only 200rmb or 250rmb, but had to haggle.
Girlfriendly all the way.
No internet connection, but they let me use the office computer. Also, maybe you can use the business center computer in the Shangrila.
Also has a sauna, take the small inconspicuous elevator in the front corner of the lobby. Didn't try it myself. Saw an ugly girl come out of the elevator and that caused me to walk away. But maybe it is ok.
Thanks guys...Moody and Santa.
I always stay there and gotten to know some of the staff but never sample the fare of the sauna or ktv. you are correct that some of the ktv girls are very pretty and fashionable. i always see them walking in and out of the ktv. maybe i will sample the fare when i return in october.
the bellhops at the hotel try to sell me a LT for 900rmb but i thought that was too high. i usually bring one back from sha tsui for around 500 to 600rmb for an all night affair.
welll thanks.. when i sample the ktv and sauna, i will write up a detail report for sure.
Has anyone ever tried the sauna/massage and the ktv at the Century Plaza Hotel.
When I first started traveling to Shenzhen I used to go to that sauna. That was going back 5 yrs now. At the time it was legit. If I remember correctly the massage room walls were clear glass which would also indicate that it was more legit. I think Carnival for a legit massage has a nicer environment for the money.
This is my favorite hotel also; however, I've been hassled there a few times when I've tried to bring in a girl late. The last couple of times I've been there I used the side entrance and take the "KTV - business office elevators to the third floor" and then transfer over to the room elevators. I'm gonna be back in mid September and I hope thngs have changed.
Old Mean Dog
09-10-06, 16:37
went back to the same massage joint (wo gong zuo), it's the one across from the 7-11 and has a waterfall in the window. make sure you go to the 4th floor if your looking for fs, as the first three floors are posing as a legit massage joint. to get to the 4th floor, you have to be led up the back stairs and the entrance is behind one of those security doors, not hard to get there as i'm sure they know all the laowai want fs and they escort you. i called my little angel earlier and told her i was coming so she was waiting for me when i got there.
the papasan or owner, not real sure which, was in the room across and before we closed the door, he gave me a glass of beer and some grapes, which i thought was very nice. anyway, massage was good, the sex was great and it's a relaxing way to spend two hours with a lovely little angel. the rooms are pretty clean for this kind of massage joint (make sure you get the vip room which is 38 yuan more). i'm sure all girls will offer hj for 100 and if you ask for fs they will start at 300, but it took me less than 1 minute the first time to get her to 200 yuan, maybe you veterans could get them down to 150.
it's scary to think that i learned most of my putonghua from massage girls and hookers...lol.
damage: 88 yuan for the vip room and 2 hour massage
fs: 200 yuan, i'm still puzzled as to why she aske me for a condom again, so if you go, take one with you)
total: 288 yuan plus cab ride to and from.
i will scout out a different place on tuesday.
-sze
HornyAsianDawg
09-10-06, 18:23
Dear Fellow Mongering Brothers,
I do apologize for not posting recently as I have been rather busy with work. As much as I try to hang out with OAH, Raz and Wadman, I just can't seem to spare the time anymore. I had lunch with Raz breifly, and as much as I want to tomorrow to hang out with Wadman and OAH, as they come to HK I go up to SZ. Oh well.
Based on a post that OAH wrote two weeks ago about the security issues in Sha Tsui, I have changed my monger tactics somewhat now. Since I am not White, but in fact a local Hong Konger, the Gong An Vice squad will have no issues arresting me for enjoying the activities. Not wanting to experience the inside of a Chinese slammer myself, I have resorted to buying take out.
Last week I checked into the Shenzhen 4 Points Sheraton. Granted it's about RMB 800 a night, but this is by far the nicest and cleanest hotel in a close vicinity of Sha Tsui. Cabbing it to Sha Tsui the meter doesn't even jump. In my room I call Xiao Hung (who's number is listed in a previous post) and I tell her what I am looking for. I cab it to Sha Tsui's back entrance where I am met by the top mommy and she has for me what I described. Unfortunately she was not the one I was looking for, and proceeded to walk the alleys with her.
Now Xiao Hung is the biggest mommy in Sha Tsui, all the Junior mommys report to her. Which is why Xiao Hung has a cell phone and business cards. I picked a nice 18 year old from Sichuan who looked like Shu Qi. Paid Xiao Hung RMB100 and told her if the service was good, I would go all night. If not, I would send the girl home. If it was ST, I give the girl RMB100 plus 20 taxi fee, if LT, RMB400 all inclusive. I told the mommey for RMB400 she can pay her own taxi fee.
She was really nice, quite inexperience but very sweet and cuddly. Because service was good I kept her for the night and paid her an extra HKD $40 for taxi and what not. Told her to not let mommy know about the tips.
I think this way of monger is much safer. The Gong An Vice squad will never sweep an international standard hotel. I would not be surprised if this hotel was not girl friendly, as I got many stares from the bellboys and the front desk personnel, but then again they didn't stop me. I will try to Vienna hotel next and will post the results.
Monger longer, monger, but monger safe. Be careful of the Gong An, esp if you are Chinese descent.
HornyAsianDawg
09-10-06, 18:39
I noticed that there are not many reports on Xia Sha here. So I'll post one. Honestly, I don't know where the place is in reference to Sha Tsui, but I would assume it's close by. I just tell the taxi driver to take me to Xia Sha, where all the massage places are.
Upon entering the village you will notice it's absence of alleyways in bright neon pink. But many brightly lit massage parlors. Every one of them will tout you to go in. I have tried two, but I forgot the names. One was rather clean and one was.....eh.
How this mongering style works is you can get a massage if you want, but then that isn't mongering anymore, is it? You go straight to the rooms, which are like small bedrooms, some have attached bathrooms. Now these rooms are located at least a few buildings away from the main areas of business. So don't be surprised if you have to walk through a couple of narrow alleyways.
I tell the manager straight away that I want to shower in the room and not in the general shower area attached to the main business area. Once in the room, which is usually located in an apartment block and protected by many different metal doors and gates, I will be offered a drink. Then the daddy brings me 15 to 20 girls for my choosing.
Service is standard fare, which the girls being no older than early 20s. Usually 6 on ups, but there are a few 7s and 8s. I banged a tall Anhui 9 girl my first time there. If you don't like the girls, have daddy bring you more. They all live upstairs on the top floor of the apartment anyway.
Cost. Here is the deal. And negotiate this before going on. RMB 350 for the girl for 2 hours, (and I mean 120 minutes, not 100) and this includes two or more shots. I always demand 3 rubbers anyway, whether I use number 3 or not. The RMB350 should also include a VIP room which comes with an attached bathroom. Without the bathroom the price is only RMB300, but I always like to wash between romps. This seems like the standard rate at Xia Sha. Negotiate with the touts outside, as they always want to earn your business. But bottom line is ask them how many girls they have.
Once I get names of establishments and street names I will post here. But realistically there is only two streets with massage joints and the place ain't that big.
Monger longer, mongers....
Sha Sa (Xia Sha) has gone way downhill in the last few months, as a western cantonese speaking resident of 4 years it sucks.
The small KTV's are all gone except for two that are located on commercial property and they suck.
Then again, the small BBS's have everything I need, I've never tried the large fancy massage places here as the locals all know me, anyway, I've never paid more than a few hundred for all night including the girl.
If anyone knows of any alternativesto the small bars, please post.
ManonsanBoy
09-10-06, 23:44
It is legal to entertain guests until 11 pm. Almost all hotels have condoms in their rooms now. It is the overnight stays that land you in trouble but you'd have to be of special interest to the party to score that? Criminal extorion is another thing.
Many hotels rely on weekend mongers to fill in the gap. Week days are fine; they do not have enough 5 star rooms. Shangrila is above 90 % occupancy
This is more or less in response for HornyAsianDawg, but others may find the maps and information useful. I agree with HornyAsianDawg, that for Chinese descent looking mongers, Shazui has become a more cautious play. The girl I had repeated that police activity was up and HK monger activity was down. Luckily for me, I never liked the short-time rooms in Shazui, so I always play long-time take out in a hotel.
Notes:
Shazui = Sha Tsui. The chinese map uses Shazui. Also, my pinyin is for mandarin chinese and may not be very accurate.
Vienna Hotel (wei ye na guo ji jiu dian)
Location:
This hotel is located about off Fuqiang Lu (runs east-west) inbetween the major streets of Shazui Lu (west side) and Xinzhou Lu (east side). Of course that "inbetween" stretch is quite long if you walk it, as most China veterans realize that lengths between major roads look small on the map, but are always quite a distance. However, you can visibly see the Shazui Hotel (Fuqiang/Shazui interesection) from the area where the Vienna Hotel is located. The area is quite lively with a Carrefour shopping center right next to the hotel. The Vienna is located NE of the center of Shazui, about 10 min walk. Bus 103 runs from Dongmen to this area, but I don't have enough details to provide a newbie guide on how to get there with bus. No subways stops are within walking distance. However, the FuMin subway station looks the closest on the map.
Check in:
I just stayed in the Vienna Hotel yesterday on Sunday night. I just walked in and they had a room available. The cost was 278 rmb for the night. My Visa credit card worked fine for the deposit and subsequent checkout. I was even able to check in using just my California ID.
Rates:
There is a posted rate plaque behind the check in desk. It lists rack rates and preferrential rates. I have no clue who the rack rates are for, as I just walked in without a reservation and was given the preferential rates. I don't remember the room types, but the pricing was 200, 278, 298, and up. They did not have the 200 rmb room, so I just got the 278 rmb room. They have a free, 50rmb, and 200rmb VIP membership card (one time fee), but it's not really needed unless you plan on staying a week. The 200rmb level card only gives 12% discount. A single free breakfast coupon maybe included, but it's soley determined by the room type you booked. Unsure if the 200rmb basic room includes a coupon. My 278rmb room did. Never woke up in time to use the coupon, so no clue how breakfast is.
Room:
The room was clean and nicely decorated. It had a minibar and all the monger extras. But no free bottled water, which of course is no problem since there is a Carrefour right next door! Nice big comfortable bed with lots of pillows. The bathroom was nicely done with white/pink towels for his/her use. Two robes were provided in the closet. There was an electronic safe in the closet also. The TV channel selection was above average. AC was easily to use and worked fine. No strange smells, but a bit noisy in the morning. Massive construction/renovation going on across the street. The bathroom does tend to get wet as the shower is not in a seperate stall, but good slippers are provided. Overall nice.
Girl Friendly:
Well having heard about this hotel in this forum a few times before and considering it is located so near Shazui, I just assumed it was girl friendly. I was given no problems checking in or otherwise with my Shazui cutie in tow. Of course, we entered the hotel before 11pm and went out once to Carrefour, about returned before 11pm also. This is probably not a tourist/family hotel. I saw mostly couples and single businessmen. My impression is that it's girl friendly, but that doesn't mean you still get those looks when you bring a young cute thing in a miniskirt in with you.
Safety:
Safe inside and the outside nearby shopping area. Is this hotel untouchable by the gong an (police), I have no idea. I would seriously doubt they raid this hotel periodically, but you never know if one day you have the bad luck of being made an example of. Again my impression is highly unlikely anything will hassle you inside the hotel, police or otherwise. Now how safe the areas outside of the nearby shopping center is up for debate. I never feel unsafe walking around any part of Shenzhen, including Shazui. But of course, I am a fairly tall fit looking male chinese who speaks decent mandarin. As with all things travel/monger, have some common sense and be aware, you should be alright. I don't walk down alleyways which I have no clue go where. You shouldn't either.
Pictures:
Shazui1.jpg
Included a picture of a map of Shenzhen that had Shazui in it. Actually Xiasha and Shangsha are included. All have "cun" attached to it, which means village. You can't use this as more than a map to figure out where these 3 areas are in relation to each other. I used my compass watch and was able to walk from Xiasha to Shazui without too much difficulty in about 25 min. I wouldn't recommend using the few streets shown on the map to get around, but direction/heading wise it's quite good to know where stuff is.
Shazui2a.jpg
This is a map with a red blotch which indicates where Vienna Hotel is.
Vienna Hotel Card.jpg
Like the name says, but with my so so pinyin written on it. There are two Vienna hotels in Shenzhen. So you must tell the taxi the road this one is on or say "guo ji" or maybe best, tell the driver it's near Shazui.
My first post. Hope it helps.
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Not sure what happened to the other two pictures. Here they are.
Shazui1.jpg
Included a picture of a map of Shenzhen that had Shazui in it. Actually Xiasha and Shangsha are included. All have "cun" attached to it, which means village. You can't use this as more than a map to figure out where these 3 areas are in relation to each other. I used my compass watch and was able to walk from Xiasha to Shazui without too much difficulty in about 25 min. I wouldn't recommend using the few streets shown on the map to get around, but direction/heading wise it's quite good to know where stuff is.
Vienna Hotel Card.jpg
Like the name says, but with my so so pinyin written on it. There are two Vienna hotels in Shenzhen. So you must tell the taxi the road this one is on or say "guo ji" or maybe best, tell the driver it's near Shazui.
I have to go to Guangzhou on some business. I was wondering if there were any spas similar to ones in Shenzhen such as Queen Spa, Pacific, or Carnival but located in Guangzhou. I would rather just overnight at a good/safe/reputable spa or sauna, rather than waste time alone in a hotel.
Send me a private message or post it here if you think others might like to know this info also.
Thanks ahead of time.
I have to go to Guangzhou on some business.
...so why not posit it in the Guangzhou threat?
(and this board has a message delete function too, try it!)
I did ask in the GZ thread. I also debated about posting it in the SZ thread, but I thought the people in the SZ forum would recognize the names and be more familiar with the type of spas that I would be interested similarly in GZ.
I also checked the GZ forum for searches on sauna and spas. Not much turned up, and nothing specific to help me. Though I did get a possible lead via pm and one from a forum post in the GZ thread.
(and this board has a private message function too, maybe you should try it!)
Sorry, couldn't resist that last jab. Flame on!
I have to go to Guangzhou on some business. I was wondering if there were any spas similar to ones in Shenzhen such as Queen Spa, Pacific, or Carnival but located in Guangzhou. I would rather just overnight at a good/safe/reputable spa or sauna, rather than waste time alone in a hotel.
Send me a private message or post it here if you think others might like to know this info also.
Thanks ahead of time.
This is the Shenzhen thread, not Guangzhou.
Old Mean Dog
09-13-06, 05:30
Went to the New Moon Health Spa last night, it's in Luohu and located across the street from the Lushan Hotel on Chunfeng Lu. This is a really nice place, very beautiful inside and large leather chairs for the the foot massage, pool tables, cinema, internet cafe, etc.
You get to choose the girl you want via a touch screen, but be warned, these are glamour photos. The real deal looks a bit different. The foot massage was really good, but thats where it ends. The massage was a bit lame and the girl wanted to chat the whole time when she found out I could speak just a little Putonghua. Normally, I enjoy converation, but her's revloved around how much money I make, how much does my apartment cost and do I get paid in USD.
Quaility of the Facility: 9
Foot Massage: 7 48 yuan
Body Massage: 6 138 yuan "Japanese" style with oil
Total Damage: 221 yuan with massage, drinks and a small tip
Absolutely no extras, not even a HJ offer.
I feel you can get much better value for your money elsewhere.
-SZE
Since typhoon/tropical season seems pretty active this year, which translates into another crappy day of thunderstorms in SZ and vicinity. I will write about the Hong Gui hotel. The event is a year old, but since there is nothing about this hotel, I will add it in case someone ends up there.
I stayed at the Hong Gui Hotel (Luo Hu area) last year. This was my first time in Shenzhen, and I was not the one directing where or what hotel. So the hotel had small but well decorated modern rooms with free broadband internet (wired). The reasons it was chosen. I believe we payed 380 rmb per night, a tad pricey now I know more about SZ hotels. However, this hotel is worth some mention in this forum is that there was a very lively club/KTV inside the hotel. From the lobby at times, I could see them parade out decent sized line-ups of girls in cocktail dresses on the 2nd floor walkway. So later at night I take a peak at the 2nd floor KTV. Lot's of middle aged local business men and pretty classy. But I only got to see the main KTV area and small bar area. As I was out alone, getting a room was not an option. I did get to see a line up or two walk by, and it's nothing amazing but they all seemed 19-24 and decent looking (6-8). I would assume this would be the same for any classy hotel KTV. I don't know the pricing, but again it's probably the same as other hotel KTV, since I got a hint from the in-room service I requested later.
So no KTV for me, but I went back to room needing a nightcap. It's about 1am and behold, 24 hour massage on stand-up placard near the phone. Even at newbie monger levels, I knew what that meant. Dialed and asked for a massage (speaking Mandarin). Considering how fast the girl arrived, she had to have been one of the KTV hotel girls just changed into her off duty clothes. I got quoted crazy prices which reinforced my suspicion she was from the KTV. 200 rmb for a massage she didn't want to give, and 800rmb for FS which she did want to give. I did not know about the ISG last year, but even without any forum knowledge, that crap sounded too high. But being too horny and needing to do some China girl, I tried to haggle her down. At 600 rmb, I was getting all kinds of resistance and her needing to call "daddy/mommy" and confirm that this was all the client was willing to pay. I think this confirms she was a KTV 800rmb girl, or I was getting scammed. Looks wise she was about a 6.5, from a small guandong village, but she had a nice fit body and looked more than good enough to bang, so I agreed, but not happily. Since I was not happy about forking over so much rmb to make my bottom half happy, I really decided to pound her hard and get my money's worth. At one point doing her doggie, I just pulled out of her pussy and did anal. When I flipped her missionary and tried to do anal, she backed away some, but I just pulled her close and went into her ass again. This wasn't very long, but was quite pleasing as she was clean and tight. Turned her over doggie again and finished in pussy. Now you might think she would want to be out of the room as soon as possible, but she hit the shower and when I was didn't join her, she called me in. I hopped in and we cuddled and washed each other a bit and then I made small chit chat. I asked how she ended up in the profession. Her response was paying off a loan of 50,000 rmb. Why she owed that much I couldn't get out of her. Just a tidbit, as I for some reason I like to know why the girls are in the satisfy-us business. This response is not atypical. Girls need money to send home or pay off debts is up on the list. Now whether her debt is gambling or paying off her father medical bills, she didn't want to say.
So, I have walked by this hotel again this year. Everything looks the same, and again even saw a line up walk pass from the lobby. Active KTV this one.
Overall, I can't see any reason why this hotel's KTV is any better value over the myriad of other high class looking KTV/clubs in Luo Hu, but it is an active one inside a decent hotel. So if you end up staying there, don't be shy and if you actually want to stay there, I probably still have the card somewhere, so just PM me. Seems all the taxis know this hotel by name too, so you probably don't even need the card. Also, I wish I had found this forum a year ago, then I might be able to know if all that resistance at 600rmb was bs or real. I still can't figure it out since I had agreed to 600rmb but the girl was going through all kinds of motions and having long heartwrenching price discussions with whomever she was talking too on the hotel phone.
This is the Shenzhen thread, not Guangzhou.I see, I must be the first and only one who has asked a question with slight SZ relation in this thread. And I thought I provided a fair amount of logic since I thought there is a decent chance SZ mongers are more familiar with these spas and might know about similar type spas in GZ. It's not like I asked, "Hey you SZ mongers, tell me about good spas in GZ please please please." Or is my thinking wrong and this is how it looks?
Either way the mob has ruled. I will make sure to keep any questions about non SZ stuff out. Is it ok to ask how to get to other parts of China from SZ? Or how other parts of China compare to SZ? Or are those taboo too? Oh wait, those have been done. Nevermind.
Narsus,
personally it doesn't bother me that you are asking about SZ like spas in GZ. Many of the seniors travel to GZ and could likely help you out. As a newbie, however, you should eat a little humble pie and not refer to a more senior ISG member as part of a mob. It also would make senior members more eager to help you out.
That being said I am glad to see you posted some reports rather than just come on board and ask for information. I encourage you to keep them coming.
As for me, I am buried in a small town in Jiangsu which happens to have pricey mongering on par with Nanjing. Needless to say I am suffering from a bad case of DSBU. Looking forward to heading (no pun intended) back to Shenzhen.
SZExpat, I have been keeping tabs on your posts. Grrr...having fun in my absence. I will be back for several days end of next week. Lets try to hook up.
LA
Ok agreed LoveAsia. I will take that piece of humble pie. I prefer not to get off on the wrong footing. I like the ISG and China forums especially.
I do not have expectations about getting answers. Great if they come. What kind of ticked me off was getting slapped around for a fairly reasonable request and a decent explanation why I posted in the SZ forum. But when put in a more friendly monger to monger manner, I will heed advice, like yours LoveAsia. Apologies if I have sounded off bit too rough.
Usually the pretty girls you see in cocktail dresses are not the girls you can take out. They are just the ushers every high class massage places, KTV bars, Some hotels, Restaurents hire to draw the people in.
They are generally college students out to make money. But if you get friendly and if they like you they might give you their number.
I was friendly with a massage girl usher after many days of going to massage, she gave me her number and had a nice date with her. But sex did not come till after couple of dates. But we had great time together and it is nice to hang around with a beautifull girl.
Usually the pretty girls you see in cocktail dresses are not the girls you can take out. They are just the ushers every high class massage places, KTV bars, Some hotels, Restaurents hire to draw the people in.
They are generally college students out to make money. But if you get friendly and if they like you they might give you their number.
I was friendly with a massage girl usher after many days of going to massage, she gave me her number and had a nice date with her. But sex did not come till after couple of dates. But we had great time together and it is nice to hang around with a beautifull girl.
I will be staying at the Pavilion next Thursday night and would appreciate any help finding overnight company. I searched this thread and found a couple of posts from many months ago that referred to a place called Juscos, but it seems that is for ST action only. I am looking for overnight and don't mind paying a bit more.
Also, does anyone know if the hotel is girl friendly and if the hotel itself has massage service?
If anyone would like to join me for some drinks that night, PM me.
Thanks all.
This is the Shenzhen thread, not Guangzhou.
I reckon some of you are a bit harsh on Narsus.
He did indeed ask his question on the GZ thread and with the proximity of GZ and SZ and the existance of the type of establishment he seeks in SZ I think it was fair enough.
A lot better than some of the blah blah blah literary excercises I see masquerading as reports.
Went to Jusco to buy some food.
As I had problem communicating, I asked another customer (a HK girl to help).
I offered to buy her a late lunch and she accepted.
After lunch, I told her about a great massage place in the 8th floor of Best Western Fellicity. She said she like massage and so we went there together.
After a great 3 hrs massage, I asked her if she liked to come to my room in the same hotel to eat some snacks I bought from Jusco. Surprisingly she accepted. In the room, I offered her a beer and started with the snacks and some light conversation. Halfway thru her beer, she says she felt a bit dizzy and rested on my shoulder. She was just pretending to be drunk. I kissed her face and carried her to my bed. She hugged me and went on with more kissing. I slid my hand into her pants and found that she was extremely wet. As I was also very horny, I removed all her clothings and went straight to action. After shooting out my load, we hug and slept together for awhile.
As it was getting late, I asked her to stay for the night. We went downstair for a quick bite and came back to the room. This time we showered together. Being slightly naughty, I asked her if she has ever shaved before. She answered never. I then told her that she would feel very refreshing during these hot months. She asked me if I have done it to any girl and I told her yes. She said she didn't mind trying. Wow another surprise for me! I quickly took my razor and shaving cream before she changed her mind. Her pussy was dripping wet and she was moaning whenever I massaged her clit while shaving her. I did the shaving gently but quickly because I was extremely horny again. We finished shower and headed back to the bed for 69 immediately. This girl was extremely horny, as we had sex at least 4 times before she headed off the next morning.
Aside from BBS, we should approach those single HK girls travelling in Shenzhen too. You may receive some very pleasant surprise.
For those with not much experience with HK girls, you can assure to a 80% score when they accept your first offer. Most HK girls are quite open but pretend to be conservative.
A Side Note: For those of you who love massage. The promotion in the above hotel is just RMB75 for 3 hrs. (Normal price is RMB30/hr). This place is 100% legit but the massage skill is one of the best I have experienced in China.
I will be staying at the Pavilion next Thursday night and would appreciate any help finding overnight company.You can search this thread for "Old Hilton" or "Sunshine" hotel, and should find a bunch of helpful very close by SW information, and some BBS. Also, there are many FR with phone numbers for delivery, but that can change very quickly. Others with more experience can comment further.
Usually the pretty girls you see in cocktail dresses are not the girls you can take out. They are just the ushers every high class massage places, KTV bars, Some hotels, Restaurents hire to draw the people in.
They are generally college students out to make money. But if you get friendly and if they like you they might give you their number.
I was friendly with a massage girl usher after many days of going to massage, she gave me her number and had a nice date with her. But sex did not come till after couple of dates. But we had great time together and it is nice to hang around with a beautifull girl.You can get a massage gal to bed the first night if you treat them nice. Usually I will ask them for quick dinner bec they need to rush back to work. During dinner tell them that you like to meet them after work for better food. After dinner, most of them are willing to go back with you. Some may sex others will just give you a lousy hand job. All of them are usually inexperienced so don't expect good BJ or anything exciting. However, the GFE is great. When you decide to do this, make sure your hotel is girl-friendly. I have success in Shenzhen, Shanghai and Guangzhou. No luck in Beijing or Dongguang.
Because HK is such a small place HK girls are very conservative in HK, but I have seen many HK girls that go super horny as soon as they are outside of HK. These girls are definitly a target.
Old Mean Dog
09-14-06, 04:41
You can search this thread for "Old Hilton" or "Sunshine" hotel, and should find a bunch of helpful very close by SW information, and some BBS. Also, there are many FR with phone numbers for delivery, but that can change very quickly. Others with more experience can comment further.Agree with M. I used to live just off South Dongmen which is where many of the major hotels are. It's really just a matter of walking out the hotel door in the evening. If your not accosted by the numerous mommies, just walk a few blocks South and many of the freelance girls will offer you their services. Basically, it's a cake walk and easy pickings.
Old Mean Dog
09-14-06, 04:44
Because HK is such a small place HK girls are very conservative in HK, but I have seen many HK girls that go super horny as soon as they are outside of HK. These girls are definitly a target.That's a shame considering, most of the HK girls I have ever seen tend to be very vanilla. There must be a reason why most of the HK men come to SZ and GZ to find girlfriends/lovers.
Bros,
Just got back from SZ on business. Some posting to share with newcomers going to SZ.
1) For full services SPA, can go to Shensha. (Take cab abt 20 to 30 RMB). If book 2 hrs room for SPA is 88RMB. Full service 300RMB but no BJ, just FJ. Total damage including cab 418 RMB.
The massuer are quality in look and shape but poor FJ and BJ skills.
Plenty of Spas to pick in Shensha.
2) For luxurios, SPA that also provide FJ, BJ or HJ can look for Dolphin Sauna at Pavilion Hotel.
Book rooms for massage and Spa is 338RMB and Service Charge 300 RMB. This place standard service charge RMB300 is for HJ only. For HJ+BJ is 500RMB. Full services is 1000RMB. All quoted for 2 hrs.
Take HJ session. Got into nice conversation with this AH Q***. During HJ session, tried undressing her skirts, panties and etc. In fact she kinda of likes me and willingly takes off everything.
Proceed to touch and fingered her underneath, which she turns very wet. Does a full body lapping onto her. Ask her she has a CAP for FJ(paying for it). She responded that she only do HJ only. She don't have any CAP with her. In fact, what she doing with me is again the regulations. Anyway has good fingering experience and she do a good HJ afterwards.
Total damage is 638 RMB for 2hrs.
3) For decent healthy massage or foot reflexology can try this Seaview Hotel, Health Center. Overall massage is about 100RMB, decent, nice and freindly massuer. Quality good massage.
4) For relaxing and healthy massage also can check out the EAST HAWAII FREE CENTRE. Spend abt 4 hrs there including 2hrs massage is only 128RMB. Good sauna, reflexology lounge and resting space.
hu bei xin cun
湖贝新村 (hú bèi xīn cūn)
note: this hu bei is not the same as hubei province.
intro
i stumbled across yet another former farming village eight story high rise area which turns out to be a red light district. i am beginning to wonder if any of these more run-down/crowded eight story high rise areas (which were built for farmers as compensation for their land) in shenzhen are not red light districts. this one is worth mention because as far as i can tell, there is no report about this hu bei xin cun. searching the sz thread i didn’t turn up any information about this area.
location
so this area is located about 20 min walk ne of the main dong men shopping area. it’s less than 10 min walk from the metropole hotel, and zhong xing lu (east-west) is on the north end of the metropole hotel. i am just using the metropole hotel as a reference point. i did not stay there.
the following streets more or less define hu bei xin cun.
zhong xing lu (north)
hu bei lu (south)
wen jin zhong lu (east)
le yuan lu (west)
the main gate which is the closest to the action is located off zhong xing lu. there are several other ways in and out of the area, but the main gate is best till your familiar with the area. and when i say main gate, you will literally see and walk through a stone arch with the name in chinese on the top. stairs down lead to the main street of this village.
how to get there
lao jie subway stop will put you in the heart of the dong men shopping area. but it’s a long walk from there.
lots of buses will place you at dong men zhong stop. this bus stop is really close to the metropole hotel. 103 for instance.
any taxi driver is going to know this area. just say “zhong xing lu” and then “hu bei xin cun.” you will get parked right at the main gate.
time
nothing is happening in this village till daylight is gone. don’t bother till 8pm at the earliest. the best selection seems to be after midnight. i don’t think they close shop till daylight. anyways, i was there at 2:30 am the first time, and everything seemed business as usual.
what to look for
the setup is like shazui. lots of dark smaller side alleys off the wider main streets is where the action is. the major difference is, there is no pretence “of girls sitting in legitimate shops” like in shazui or the barber pole for your neighborhood bbs. here, they just have a pink/purple neon light which highlights which house in the alley is the *****house. at the houses, the girls either sit outside playing cards or with their mobile or inside sleeping/sitting on couches. there are about 3-8 girls per house.
so essentially, you walk down the main street (runs north to south) heading south, and take a peek to your left or right and look for purple or pink light. then you head over and look the girls. there is usually one house per alleyway per side. some side alleys will have more than one house lit up. most of the houses are not deep inside the alleyways, so within 30 min, you could easily scan over the whole area. only annoying thing was that at two houses, the mommies are more aggressive and grab an arm as you try to walk away, leaving your arm slithered wet from her sweat. going to avoid the west alley 3rd down from main gate. that mommy is an aggressive arm grabber. of course, over 95% of the time, no one hassles you as you look and walk away, so not too bad.
note, the southern half of this village has roped off the west side alleys. the residents there are saving you time by letting you know no action is that direction.
girls
this is no shazui. i would say the range is from 4-7. there are young girls working there. no tall ones. one good thing is that most of the girls do not do the “white face” make-up. bad thing is that after looking over the whole village, i only had 3 prospects. however, since there are nearly 20 houses to go through, the selection is large.
i ended up with a girl named ah lian. she was almost 20 and from hunan. skinny legs, nice rack, decent face, and cute pouty voice. more on ah lian in a separate report.
price:
150rmb plus taxi fare back (20rmb), short time (1hour), one pop. i did take out, but i think the price is the same for dine in less taxi fare. of course i don’t like to dine in, so i can’t comment on the rooms, but i didn’t find any inspiration to change my take out policy. rooms are not going to be clean is my impression, leaning towards cramped, dirty, smelly, and hot. two things of note, one girl later that night refused to go to my hotel; my guess was she was lazy or didn’t want to leave her comfort zone. unrelated, my mommy gave me slight resistance when i only wanted to give her 50rmb upfront and the rest to the girl after. as i seemed ready to walk away, she said that method is fine.
150rmb is what’s quoted by everyone for short-time. i tried to get long-time quotes, but they were ridiculous. first, the mommy just said 150 per pop/hour is long time. after i explained a bit more, she started with 1000rmb, then dropped to 800rmb, and then lots of mental wheel spinning as i tell them it’s 500rmb at shazui, and still not agreeing to 500rmb. so my guess is that pretty much no one does long time take out there.
i didn’t try to haggle the short time price down, not favorite way to pass time. but i suspect that you can, since the girls are not so lively looking and there are so many places. but again, i didn’t try, so i don’t know.
foreigners
i saw one foreigner (middle eastern descent) in the village when i was there. i am totally guessing here, but mommies are impressive things of nature saleswoman wise, so i bet they have just enough english to get a deal done. i used mandarin, so lucky me. cantonese is no problem here, as i saw the hk mongers with daypack strolling around too. of course, if your white, your going to stand out as much or even more than you do in shazui.
police
one night i saw police action. i strolled back into the area and saw a single police van parked at the lower (southern) half of this village. down one alley way one black uniform with red armband and one regular dressed cop casually strolling down the dark alley. then when they are half-way to the end, 10+ girls scurry from one alley to another. all the purple lights went off on that alley and nearby alleys as the police took their stroll. however, as i talked to a girl at the upper half of the village (within view of police van), and told her, she was totally unconcerned. so my take is that it was just a single shutdown of some owner that missed whatever monthly payoff. when i returned to the lower half after the police van had gone, it was business as usual.
i don’t think there is a serious drug and gang issue in this village like shazui, so i am guessing it doesn’t see mass crackdowns. but it does see some police action, so not a totally safe harbor.
food
on nearby le yuan lu, there are a great deal of big seafood restaurants which cater to the hk crowd. plenty of those great smelling grilled oysters, 3 for 10rmb.
useful
it’s really useful to bring a pen and write down what alley and which side the house is. as i grabbed cards with girls name written on back from mommy, i found it pain to try to remember where they were located after i finished my stroll from north to south. yes, it all looks the same. however, the cards have addresses, and even with a lot of missing address signs, you can still figure out where they are, but you will save a lot of time with a pen. something like “4th alley down from main gate, east side”
maps
i have included a big map and small map of area. they will be in a separate post as the last time i wrote up a long report, not all the pictures made it with it.
conclusion
i don’t see any reason to hunt here over shazui unless:
a. your stuck nearby.
b. you like seafood cause le yuan lu is a good area for it.
c. you like the hunt and want to try a new area.
d. things are pretty simple and straightforward. those pink/purple neon lights make it so.
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Here are the maps for locating and playing in Hu Bei Xin Cun.
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This is a portion of the Shenzhen map which shows where the village is located. The red oval is where Hu Bei Xin Cun is.
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This is a "representation" of how the village is set up. PLEASE NOTE ITS NOT ACCURATE number of alleyways. In reality, there are like 6 alleyways east and west above the "wider road" and maybe like 5 alley ways east side only, below "wider road"
OldAsiaHand
09-17-06, 13:31
I've not been in the BBS area across the street from the Panglin (Hilton) on the left side past the outdoor dining spots for some time. The quality seemed to be slipping after they finished the sewer project. At one time, there was some reasonable talent there. Any mongers visited the area recently?
OAH
You can search this thread for "Old Hilton" or "Sunshine" hotel, and should find a bunch of helpful very close by SW information, and some BBS. Also, there are many FR with phone numbers for delivery, but that can change very quickly. Others with more experience can comment further.
The girl Ah Lian from my Hu Bei Xin Cun report.
So to quote myself “I ended up with a girl named Ah Lian. She was almost 20 and from Hunan. Skinny legs, nice rack, decent face, and cute pouty voice.”
I usually don’t end up with a GFE experience with these attributes in girl, but that’s what attracts me. Littlehead over rules Bighead all the time in these matters. So no surprise, Ah Lian was lazy in bed and only teased me but would not let me french kiss her. Fair amount of positions, but I did all the initiation and work. Did manage to get a short BBJ. She is a 5 face, 7 body, and 4 attitude. That’s the short story.
The long story is that she masqueraded with her cute pouty voice as some fresh from Hunan country girl, where as she is a total pro. Here are the highlights coming from a this little tease:
“I saw some couples on TV kissing. I think they were deep kissing. How do you do it.”
“Hurry up. Hey look what’s going on in the movie on TV.” This while I am pumping her hard.
“I think that’s sperm. It makes babies. It’s so white.” After I cum in her in doggie, she exams the condom.
So back to the beginning.
I take her with out with me from Hu Bei Xin Cun. We jot over to the main gate where it’s very easy to catch a taxi, with her looking cute sipping her little red tea drink. I am looking forward to seeing her naked.
Upon first entering the room, she walks over and examines my stuff. She didn’t dig around really, just messed around with the top layer of my open bag. Instantly, she likes the shiny new camcorder and picks it up. “I was learning some photography in Hunan, blah blah blah.” So I show her how to take pics and shoot a few of her (clothed).
Now I have never had a working girl thoroughly examine/eye my gear like she did. And I have had some really fresh bumpkins. I could tell she was either acting or scouting me out via my stuff. The latter is most likely true, as later she gives me hints about needing a boyfriend when I am on top of her.
We shower separately and then are in bed naked. I am not disappointed body wise. She has white skin, skinny/long legs, and great C cups. Kissing wise, this little tease keeps pecking my lips and showing some tongue, but of course when my tongue tries something, her face moves sideways, not from inexperience, but more like how the pros deny deep kissing. When I ask for the BJ, she says her practice is CBJ. It doesn’t take much convincing to get her to do BBJ. Her skills are average and her BJ is short with the standard spitting into the trashcan. But it felt like a 1 year pro rather than some 1 month girl.
So I am expecting a tight pussy when I enter her, but compared to other China girls, she is loose. This totally confirms my suspicions she is no fresh girl, or she has had a lot of b/f in Hunan who banged her 24/7. At this point, I am even not sure her story about being 2 days away from turning 20 is right.
She was lazy, but not a dead fish. She moaned and did grab on when I pumped her hard and deep. When I was doing her from behind, I spread her cheeks and my thumb rubbed her asshole for a second. Instantly, she mumbled something to the effect of “off limits.” The rest is me doing her in various positions and her saying “hurry up” like some pro who has been there too long, and randomly saying crazy crap as mentioned in the highlights. I have done some fresh girls, and none have ever said stuff like that or behaved like her.
However, I am not going to complain too hard. Her pussy was still warm and wet and she had nice legs and beautiful C cups as handles, so cumming doggie style was not a problem. And yes, she really did say “I think that’s sperm. It makes babies. It’s so white.”
Two pictures of Ah Lian clothed. If she is your type, her house was either the 3rd or 4th alley east side. The card says the address is #200. Or you can call 13728615926 or 82185145 and say a friend told you about Ah Lian. Make up a name if they ask who your friend was, cause honestly they won’t care and I get this feeling they don’t remember shit about customers anyways. The card does say 24 hours, and Ah Lian did tell me I could call her back to my hotel if I wanted, but I am not sure if they will do this without the girl having been to your hotel before.
If you do ever do play with Ah Lian, send me a PM. Let me know what you thought of her.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I have been to this spa several times. The massage was good. Do any one knows if they provide extra services. On weekends i see a lot of families there. Does anyone knows. Friendship is very near my office, so i find them very convenient.
I have been to this spa several times. The massage was good. Do any one knows if they provide extra services. On weekends i see a lot of families there. Does anyone knows. Friendship is very near my office, so i find them very convenient.I have not been too Friendship Spa, but I have a lot of experience with Queen Spa, which you can decide if is similar enough.
Like Friendship Spa, Queen Spa has kids running around in it too. Also, I bet Friendship is well designed, has a very professional staff, lots of nice amenities, good food, wireless internet or computers with internet provided, movie theatre, good quality free fruit, nice chairs, an amazing amount of staff, high end showers, comfy relaxation chairs, and relatively expensive manicure/pedicure and head/foot massage which have tip levels from 10-30 rmb. If this is sounding like your spa, then no extra services are available. Note, Carnival and Pacific are in this category too, though I have spent much more money/time at Queen.
At Queen Spa I have spent a ton of money, had unknown numbers of thai, HK, and oil massages, and even paid for their 5th floor VIP massages. I have never been offered extra services or even had a hint they existed. I asked one massage girl straight out last year if they did any hanky panky in this spa, and she said no. Also, I have seen nearly every inch of this spa, and no where does it look like there is a special fuck area. Of course, I have not seen the female locker/shower area, so maybe there is a lesbian girl girl orgy catbath love fest I am missing out on.
I am sure customers get phone numbers and hook up with massage girls outside of work, but still it's going to be dating versus pay for play. Of course, given the max tip level for a massage can be 100rmb, with the right girl and over the course of time, you can probably get to "feel the girl" but probably outside the uniform. I will test this when I no longer want to entertain friends and business contacts at Queen.
Personally, I find having a good spa that doesn't offer extra services is a good thing to have. I can really relax at Queen Spa when I go there, knowing there is no extra stuff going on or available. Others might feel differently though, like that's what the spa really needs to make it good, hehe.
I hope it's related enough to answer your question about Friendship Spa. And if anyone has had extra services at Queen, Carnival, or Pacific, I for one would love to hear about it.
I do not think there are BBSs in that area. At least I do not know of any. However, after about 7/8 pm ther are a lot of SWs who can be convinced to come to the hotel for between 150 to 200RMB. There are many touts and they will quote 300.
I hope the attchments make it through.
The crowd in the center of the Hilton view at night is a lot of these SWs.
The open air food place that OAH mentions is to its left and up.
I've not been in the BBS area across the street from the Panglin (Hilton) on the left side past the outdoor dining spots for some time. The quality seemed to be slipping after they finished the sewer project. At one time, there was some reasonable talent there. Any mongers visited the area recently?
OAH
OldAsiaHand
09-18-06, 06:01
Also, I wish I had found this forum a year ago, then I might be able to know if all that resistance at 600rmb was bs or real. I still can't figure it out since I had agreed to 600rmb but the girl was going through all kinds of motions and having long heartwrenching price discussions with whomever she was talking too on the hotel phone.
Narsus:
Almost all hotel BBS/Massage girls start to offer at 800-1,000 RMB. You can usually negotiate them down to 300-400 RMB depending on the place and their business on the day. The problem is that if they get the feeling you really want it, they may stay firm. I just try to pretend it is no big deal one way or another if we do the deed. "I just want the massage." As you well pointed out, this is not their primary objective and they do not want to go away empty-handed.
OAH
Narsus:
Almost all hotel BBS/Massage girls start to offer at 800-1,000 RMB. You can usually negotiate them down to 300-400 RMB depending on the place and their business on the day. The problem is that if they get the feeling you really want it, they may stay firm. I just try to pretend it is no big deal one way or another if we do the deed. "I just want the massage." As you well pointed out, this is not their primary objective and they do not want to go away empty-handed.
OAHOk, that makes sense. I probably got jacked price wise then, oh well. But service turned out to be fun.
I have one question with the "I just want the massage" bluff. I am so scared they will agree to it! I can spot a bad massage coming a mile away, and this would of been one of those. The chance of two hours of worthless or painful massage makes me flinch.
I am assuming there is like zero chance they will actually agree to just give a 2 hour massage. Is this correct?
Personally, I find having a good spa that doesn't offer extra services is a good thing to have. I can really relax at Queen Spa when I go there, knowing there is no extra stuff going on or available. Others might feel differently though, like that's what the spa really needs to make it good, hehe.I fully agree. If you want a good massage, go to a legit place. Chances are good that you will get a good massage. If you just want the extra services, go to a hanky-panky place. Going to a hanky-panky (or 50/50) place looking for a regular massage is a bad idea, because the girls will hassle you endlessly for extras, and the massage will be crap anyway.
Narsus:
Almost all hotel BBS/Massage girls start to offer at 800-1,000 RMB. You can usually negotiate them down to 300-400 RMB depending on the place and their business on the day. The problem is that if they get the feeling you really want it, they may stay firm. I just try to pretend it is no big deal one way or another if we do the deed. "I just want the massage." As you well pointed out, this is not their primary objective and they do not want to go away empty-handed.
OAHMr. B has pointed out the same thing. In a lot of hanky panky places, the girls get absolutely nothing if you just do the massage. The massage fee you pay goes to the house. So he has suggested to let the girl do the massage for the first hour, and pretend you are not interested in more. After one hour has passed, the girl will be begging you to fuck her.
Mr. B has pointed out the same thing. In a lot of hanky panky places, the girls get absolutely nothing if you just do the massage. The massage fee you pay goes to the house. So he has suggested to let the girl do the massage for the first hour, and pretend you are not interested in more. After one hour has passed, the girl will be begging you to fuck her.Ok my situation at the Hong Gui Hotel was slightly different, as there was no house fee, being it was in my room. But I get the message. Just survive a half-assed/half-hearted massage for an hour (or less hopefully), and the tables turn in your favor big time. Thanks Wadman and OAH. Clear as day now.
Fucking terrible last two nights thanks to one evil *****. So bad, I am going to catch a bus tommorrow to HouJie and try to forget it.
Short Story
Ripoff A
#329 "Lina" at Victoria Massage nearby Citic Plaza/Jusco area. This girl is a greedy little ***** evil scammer with oscar award acting skills and a plan. Lost a night of sleep and over 500 RMB down the toilet. Probably more sharks like her at this massage place.
Ripoff B
Not enough loose rmb to cover taxi back, so have to pay with 100rmb note. Driver says "here is 50 first" and hands over a single 50rmb bill. Alarms go off all over, like as in this bill has been waiting all night for someone. Looked it over, and no security stripe. I demand another 50rmb bill. He makes it happen. I dodged this rip-off, but it sure didn't add to my night.
I will tell the long story about this Lina ***** in another report, when I don't feel like strangling her. I might be more objective...I doubt it.
....taxi back, so have to pay with 100rmb note. Driver says "here is 50 first" and hands over a single 50rmb bill. Alarms go off...
They certainly should. Taxi drivers are not a good place to change money. But there is an easy way to to check notes in bad light.
Look at Mao and feel his jacket. The jacket is quite rough (due to the particle print). Try it on a newish banknote first. An inkjet print is always completely flat and smooth.
OldAsiaHand
09-19-06, 11:19
narsus,
wadman is right. you cannot get a good massage from a girl that wants to fuck and she will not give up trying even if you tell her you only want the massage. some saunas and massage joints in sz that offer fs, have other girls specially for massage with no extra services. the house fee is usually more expensive than the fs girls, especially in sha tsui. you need to specify that this is what you want when you ask for the girl. there are several terms but "medical" or "doctor" massage is commonly used for it. having said that, you are better off in legit places for massage, or even better, the massage centers at some hospitals and clinics or the blind massage joints offer professionally trained massages with chinese traditional medicine treatments such as the glass balls or scraping.
oah
I do not think there are BBSs in that area. At least I do not know of any. However, after about 7/8 pm ther are a lot of SWs who can be convinced to come to the hotel for between 150 to 200RMB. There are many touts and they will quote 300.
I hope the attchments make it through.
The crowd in the center of the Hilton view at night is a lot of these SWs.
The open air food place that OAH mentions is to its left and up.
Correction - these BBS are alive and kicking - I just did a recon tour. I checked two alleys with about a dozen shops, each with 5+ girls. Looked like decent selection. I did not check prices or partook in any service but it is very clear what is being offered there.
Directions are: Exit Panglin (formerly Hilton). Keep walking straight, cross the main street (fight off an average 3 mamasans and 2 beggars while you wait for the light to turn green), keep going straight. Turn left at the 2nd street (has a barrier that will let only pedestrians through), turn right into one of the small alleys, have fun.
Cheers!
It looks too early to go out in HouJie (DG), and the only business I am here on is "me" business, so I will try and finish up some SZ reports.
I have been renting an apartment in the LuoHu area. Over the course of a month, I have had numerous take out menus/cards slipped under my door for both food and girls. So far I have only ordered the food.
So why post them? I sometimes read posts to the effect of "looking for action, but don't want to leave hotel. " Well here are ten cards with outcall numbers. Only one card is a duplicate.
I called like 7 of the 9 the numbers to get pricing. It's all the same. 300rmb girl goes to you hotel or apartement for 1pop and time limits varied from 30min to 2hours, but again 1pop and she is gone. Also, they always ask for your room number and location. They will call the hardline back to confirm your info if possible. Annoying but that's how the game is played. Also, I think some of these numbers are to the same company, but I heard at least 4 distinct operators answer, all female, so there is some competition, but pricing is the same. No one would budge from 300rmb, whether I called from apartment or hotel. Of note, one place asked if I wanted a domestic and international girl. 1000rmb was the quote for international. Gotta mean Russian white skin? Should of asked more details, and forgot which number.
I am pretty sure they will service any area in LuoHu. I asked all this info in Mandarin. My guess is you can get a deal done with broken mandarin or really short English, but I am guessing. Of course, it can't hurt to try. But don't budge from 300rmb or say friend had service at this price. As soon as they know your a foreigner, price is going to be higher for whatever reasons they make up.
I forgot to ask this part. Will the girl will come directly to your room? My bet is yes, depending on if the hotel is girl-friendly or has room-card operated elevators. Otherwise you might have to stray out of your hotel 50 feet or so and take the girl in. Of course I have no clue what kind of girls they send over, but it's going to be random. Whatever kind you ask for they will say they have but it may or may not be what they send over. But you can always say no and have another sent over, depending on how long you can keep Littlehead from taking over the pursestrings. Not an easy thing to do!
I think most of the numbers are visible. PM if you can't read a specific number. Hell they are all the same pretty much, so just pick any one. Not like I can recommend one anyways. If you do try this service, remember pay the girl only, and after, and of course, be nice and post a report. I would of, but not planning to try this service till the final days of my apartment stay.
Greetings Gentlemen,
I've searched and rtft with no luck.
I'm staying at the Crowne Plaza in 2 nights and will be amongst co workers the entire time.
Obviously, discretion will be key. I am assuming Crowne has suitable in room massage at all hours. Is my assumption a fair bet?
More importantly, is there any massage (never been to a BBS and not sure if I'm ready to plunge as I won't have the time to research thoroughly) in close proximity..... ie: walk out the front door, turn left, 100 yards on the right is a massage shop.
Many thanks and can't wait to sample Shenzhen.
Ok my situation at the Hong Gui Hotel was slightly different, as there was no house fee, being it was in my room. But I get the message. Just survive a half-assed/half-hearted massage for an hour (or less hopefully), and the tables turn in your favor big time. Thanks Wadman and OAH. Clear as day now.Of course, if you have a little bit more time and money, why not go to ChangPing? It's about 1 hour from Shenzhen (by car).
Sauna action at the major hotels there is about 220-280 RMB for the room, and 300 for the girl. There is no pretense of a massage (other than with her tongue and tits), and you get a full 2 hours of service. The girls get special training before they are allowed to work there (and it shows!). Yeah, it's more money, but there is no compare in terms of quality of service.
At the Virgin hotel, it's unlimited pops for 2 hours.
Old Mean Dog
09-20-06, 16:15
Greetings Gentlemen,
I've searched and rtft with no luck.
I'm staying at the Crowne Plaza in 2 nights and will be amongst co workers the entire time.
Obviously, discretion will be key. I am assuming Crowne has suitable in room massage at all hours. Is my assumption a fair bet?
More importantly, is there any massage (never been to a BBS and not sure if I'm ready to plunge as I won't have the time to research thoroughly) in close proximity..... ie: walk out the front door, turn left, 100 yards on the right is a massage shop.
Many thanks and can't wait to sample Shenzhen.I don't remember anything real close to the Crowne Plaza except Windows of the World, Happy Valley and some restaurants. your real close to the subway (metro) so, getting around should be easy or just head down to Shekou. Maybe some of the old timers know some secret places around there.
I don't remember anything real close to the Crowne Plaza except Windows of the World, Happy Valley and some restaurants. your real close to the subway (metro) so, getting around should be easy or just head down to Shekou. Maybe some of the old timers know some secret places around there.Ahh Szexpat jogged my memory. Never stayed in the Crowne Plaza, so can't answer your question about in room massage Surferr3. But I have walked around in it (bigass hotel) and visited the VBar, which is part of the hotel. Now the VBar is a very nice place. It's located near the pool, and has indoor and outdoor settings. On weekends, this place is suppose to be quite a meat market, but we are talking office girls, not hookers. Might try your luck/charm there, but not sure how discreet you need to be. Anyways, its an impressive bar to have a drink, though inside the music might be blaring.
Crowne Plaza is in the Overseas Chinese Town, and you can consider that area to be like a nice suburban area, so play options either don't exist or extremely hard to find. Hope your hotel has one of those 24 hour in-room massage placards by the phone. From what I can tell walking around in Crowne, I doubt it. This hotel doesn't need the spare change from this activity.
My advice is bring porn :) Otherwise, you need to get on the metro and venture about.
Look at Mao and feel his jacket. The jacket is quite rough (due to the particle print). Try it on a newish banknote first. An inkjet print is always completely flat and smooth.Useful tip. Your right on, the jacket is a bit rough, and this would be perfect for the lowlight back of taxi situation. It's either this or carry around one of those UV penlights. My pockets got too much crap in them as is, so thanks for this tip.
Guys, I think I found some new cluster of BBS's that MIGHT not have been posted about yet, though I'm not sure. Of interesting note is it might be 200 RMB for a 6-hour take out !? Here are the details.
Location: Best way I can describe how to get there is when you leave the Shazui/ShaTsui Hotel which is located on Shazui Rd (south of BinHe Dadao); cross Shazui Rd. Turn to your right after crossing and walk about 100-200 meters until you reach an intersection area where 2-3 roads meet. Now, turn to your left and you will see an area with small shopping places that you have been walking along since when you crossed Shazui Road. Go into that area and explore the alleys.
When staying at the Shazui Hotel, if you cross Fuqiang Rd then I think you are heading to the ShaTsui/Shazui area that is most mentioned on here (with the white gates).
Anyway, I wandered the alleys about 3am and saw about 8(?) small BBBs shops open. Look down the alleys for the blue glowing lights. Most had about 4-5 girls sitting around in them. Being a laowai I think I suprised a good number of them. I wonder if earlier in the night there are more girls and more shoppes (remember I am late at 3am).
I found 1 particular BBS that had about 3-4 pretty hot looking hunnies, all about 18-20yo, and started talking with mamasan. She was really excited to have a laowai, but her girls were quite shy toward me. I tell mama I want about 6 hours for take-out to my hotel. Mama offers 600 RMB, I say 200 RMB (I figure I'll come up to 300-400 if I have to). An older (70+yo) man is hanging out here just wandering/watching this bargain.. I finally come up to 300 RMB (and said I want only about 4-5 hours; realizing that it's 3am and I have guests coming to my hotel in the mornnig and need to get the girl out of my hotel and clean up a bit), mama is holding steady at 400 RMB and won't go lower. Finally the older man speaks up and says something to the effect of 'hey dude, it's 200 RMB for around here!' and mama wants to kick his ass for speaking up so he runs away (well, 'shuffles' away). I was not sure about if the old man knew I was talking for 4 hours takeout vs a 1-2 hour dine-in. Still, I appreciate his help!
Mama and me agree on 300 RMB for about 4-5 hours. I select the girl and she doesn't want to come with me and in fact runs away down the street. Mamasan yells something at the girl. Ohh well, that happens sometimes to me, but since there are 3 other good looking girls, I select a 2nd choice and we taxi to my hotel.
About her -- LiLi, an 18yo from GuangXi, said she's been in Shenzhen about 8 days. She looks a little thicker in the legs than the other girls, but she seemed curious towards me, so my xiao didi is no longer xiao as we ride in the taxi to my hotel and that's a good sign.
At my hotel, we shower... she slops up the bathroom with water everywhere, but they all do that. I decide to be gentle with her and do some kissie/kissie boyfriend and licking/kissing alongside her neck. She does a little LFK, very little, but loves the neck action. Oh, I want to mention that she had amazing little pink(!) nipples... the areoala is smaller than a 5-Jiao coin and her nipple is perhaps even smaller than a pencil eraser. Fun to suck too, very firm.
I give her some DATY and she is loving it and really getting into it, we do some BBBJ for 15+ minutes (she's not too good but at least trying and not giving up), then she rides this big boy and we have about 3 positions (I can barely get inside her, she is tiny, but we made it work!). I blew my energy onto her stomach/chest area; Dad would be proud of me for this load! She was wanting me to do it inside the latex, but I insisted and got my way. So, she has some level of restictions (seems no kissing, no blowing it onto her body/stomach, no CIM).
Now we sleep and actually she is quite the cuddler and enjoying touching and snuggling with me. About 7am we wake up and have 1 more round. She showers then leaves my hotel with 20 RMB for taxi (it's only 12 RMB for her taxi but 20 was the smallest I had).
From talking with her she told me that standard rate is 200 RMB, even for about 6 hours (all-night). This surprised me, so maybe I misunderstood her. And, she said that in her days there she never saw a laowai there and how all the other girls want to hear her side of the story when she gets back. Overall she seemed happy that I was gentle, and she didn't look around my room or try to steal anything (I even purposely left a 100 RMB and a 20 RMB laying on the desk to see if she would try to take it) and she didn't beg for a 50 RMB taxi fare... was happy to accept and she left with a smile. Though she forgot 1 of her earrings and came back to get it.
I'll post a good scanned map of this place (with it circled) and add it to the report in about 1 week. But it's on a triangle-shaped piece of property with the 3 roads surrounding it being Shazui Rd & Fuqiang Rd & Binhe Dadao.
I think some of you other guys needs to check it out and verify if indeed it's 200 RMB for a 6-hour playtime.
I might wander there again later tonight, but I have a dinner date with a gorgous tall and slender Harbin girl whom I met in Shanghai (she lives/works in Shenzhen and was in Shanghai for real business just the same as me) whom I'm hoping might become a freebie!?
Dar
Tequila Kid
09-21-06, 03:13
Greetings Gentlemen,
I've searched and rtft with no luck.
I'm staying at the Crowne Plaza in 2 nights and will be amongst co workers the entire time.
Obviously, discretion will be key. I am assuming Crowne has suitable in room massage at all hours. Is my assumption a fair bet?
More importantly, is there any massage (never been to a BBS and not sure if I'm ready to plunge as I won't have the time to research thoroughly) in close proximity..... ie: walk out the front door, turn left, 100 yards on the right is a massage shop.
Many thanks and can't wait to sample Shenzhen.
Surferr3,
I stay at Crowne Plaza all the time.
Forget about massage services. Nothing available.
Also, stay away from touts hanging out across the street at convenience store booths – prices quoted are high. They are betting you are a wealthy foreigner with little time or knowledge about local action.
For quick relief, it’s a short cab or metro ride to ShaTsui, Jusco or other Shenzhen P4P action.
You can find lots of action at V Bar…..….but not discreet if your co-workers are hanging around.
Normal Girls: Office ladys, some college educated, Some in their 30’s well-off financially (own business and/or divorced) and lonely. All open to action if you connect.
Freelancers: Available for action. If you connect, could turn into girlfriend/freebie.
Serious P4P pros: Available for action, but expensive for ST. Forget about freebie action.
The P4P pro’s will casually proposition you. Expect to pay 500-1000rmb for Chinese and much more for Filipinas or Russians. I have never taken them up their offer. (1 month ago, a Filipina asked for $200USD!!).
Freelancers: I met a few, but never went further than casual chit-chat. Could (eventually) be freebie if you connect after chatting, dancing, drinks and ‘possibility’ of longer term relationship. (I think most freelancers are looking for wealthy foreigner boyfriend experience).
I go to V Bar to meet Normal Girls. I have met a few, and developed into long term girlfriends. My last was a home-run GFE lasting 14 months (I had to break it up, too much of a good thing was hurting my family life back home).
In summary - Go to BBS or other popular Shenzhen action spots for quick, discreet P4P action. Go to V Bar to meet local non-pro’s.
If you want to be discreet and have about 2 hours….
a) Get Shenzhen map from hotel, find location of “Jusco”.
b) Take map to bell hop, tell them you want to go to “Jusco”
c) Taxi drop off point is behind Jusco (right were you want to be)
d) Walk to the end (past shops and massage shops behind Jusco)
e) Turn right at corner, walk towards 7-11
f) Look down alleys on your right….when you see lots girls hanging around….
g) Go down the alley(s)… find someone you like
h) Confirm 150rmb
i) Girls takes you to room
j) Do the routine: play, shower, sex, shower, pay her
k) Walk back to taxi drop off behind Jusco
l) Give Taxi driver the Cowne Plaza “taxi card”
m) Back at hotel, relax … hang out at V Bar if you so inclined
Enjoy,
TK
One Wing Low
09-21-06, 03:28
I have 5 days starting in HK then SZ.
Would appreciate some suggestions from experienced hands in China as to where to go in 5 days to maximize:
1. Beautiful girls
2. Good sea food
3. Good entertainment, KTV?
4. Good sight seeing...
Thanks
Surferr3> There is a massage place directly across the street, 2nd floor of a cheap 2 story building, from the Crowne Plaza. I got a massage there once and nothing happened. I think I just had 'Chinese style' massage, but that may have been all they offered. When I got into the room I asked the rate and the girl said 50 for an hour (I think), but when I left and went to pay, I saw that the sign said in Chinese that the price was 30 or so for an hour. A lot of massage places get so few foreigners that they just don't think to rip off the foreigner, but that place gets enough that they try to do it. So beware if you do go there.
There is an urban village about 300 meters to the west of the Crown Plaza. The easiest way to find it is to walk on Shennan Blvd. to the 'Golden Gate Bridge' pedestrian overpass and there you are. There aren't a whole lot of options there, but enough. The village is on the other side of the new mall that is being constructed right next to the Crowne Plaza.
Behind the construction, adjacent to the village and on the second floor of a building, is a massage place that is legit, but also accommodating for a hj. So if you go to a massage place and don't need full service, go there.
WOW.
Many thanks to ALL of thee replies. I would thank everyone individually but I received at least 4 public comments and 3 PM's.
I will take all information and do well. Seriously, if anyone is heading to Brazil, CR, Manila, or anywhere else I have been I will be happy to receive PM's to offer assistance. Please give me apprival to cross post replies on the board to share with all.
Again, Can't wait to get to Shenzhen!!
Old Mean Dog
09-21-06, 18:19
I did something I usually don't do, go back to a place I didn't like the first time, but I figured I would try out the Dragon Palace Massage Joint again (I accidentally called it Dragon House, in post #3538). Anyway, I had exchanged phone #'s with the massage girl when I first went there and she had been calling me and bugging me to come back. I went there 3 days ago and this time, the service was much better and less crowded. After the foot massage, I asked for this girl but the boss said she was not free and sent me another girl.
This cutie was from Sichuan and 22 yoa (name was May), her massage skills were fantastic and she did a superior Japanese Massage (with oils). After about an hour, she started massaging around my xiao di di and was hitting nerves around my groin area that almost made me melt like butter in the hot sun!
Suddenly, when she had my boy standing at full attention, under my shorts, my massage gf comes walking in!! She didn't even bat an eyelash, but rather sat on the other side of me and started stroking it, as we had a 3-way conversation. After some discussion, it was decided that May would be the one to give me the Shu Fu Massage (I am told this is the code for HJ and means relaxation). May, did not expect a specific tip for the HJ which was a bit surprising, but I gave her 100 yuan as this is the standard fee in town.
Back to my massage gf, she came over to the apartment last night and I got FS for free, which was quite nice.
If you decide to hit up Chun Rong (#765), she is looking for a BF/Husband so beware, she wanted to ride me uncovered, but I'm not stupid and wrapped the fella up. I am sure if you push the other girl May (#016), she could also end up being a freebie.
Massage: 128 yuan Japanese style with oils (2 hours), includes the foot massage (1 hour).
Tips: 100 yuan to May and 20 yuan to the foot massage girl
Total: 248 yuan includes a free drink.
-SZE
I was considering trying Pacific Massage Spa on Jiabin Lu, does anyone have any experience there and do they offer extras?
I was considering trying Pacific Massage Spa on Jiabin Lu, does anyone have any experience there and do they offer extras?The only spa named Pacific I know is like Queen Spa. No extras in spa. Forgot if it's on Jiabin Lu. 3 min walk from the MixC though.
After the sauna and a quick dinner at the adjacent Bistro restaurant, AG, Narsus and I head off to the Amazon KTV (located next to the Versaille hotel). It's Narsus first time seeing a mega-lineup, and he was suitably impressed. We got there around 7 PM. Place was full and humming already, it might be a good idea to show up even earlier on a Friday.
There were 4 long rows of girls, probably about 300-400 in total. A bit tough to estimate. Having so many girls available poses it's own set of problems: you just don't know which ones to pick, because there is so much choice!
Both girls that I ended up picking (we picked 2 each) turned out to be from Guanxi. I didn't ask the girls this when picking them, I only found out after. Seeing as some of my other GFs are also from Guanxi, I think I definitely have something for Guanxi girls. I have to make a trip to Guilin real soon!
In the KTV room, it's the usual dice and drinking games. After a while, we played the 7-8-9 dice game to get the girls drunk. Both my girls were very friendly. Frenched and fingered both of them, so I cannot complain. Last time I was at Amazon, the girls would not play at all. Tried, but could not get them to touch each other. Not even stroking each other back. Tried to get them to kiss each other too, but obviously no luck there either.
AG is the only one who ends up taking a girl back. I have to drive back to Shenzhen the same night, so I need to sober up. Thanks Narsus, for joining me for a foot massage afterwards.
PS: AG, the bill (not including DJ tip) was 1800 RMB. Do you have any idea why it was so high? The room minimum was only 880 RMB. How many bottles of red wine did we have? And then there the compulsory "lady drinks" that we had to buy of course, but those were only 30-50 RMB each. There was the "free food", but surely we did not eat 600 RMB worth of food? In no way am I implying that any of this is your fault, nor am I complaining. I am just curious.
OldAsiaHand
09-23-06, 04:43
Guy,
Thanks for the update. I used to go to this area quite often in the past. It was one of the first BBS locations I discovered in Shenzhen. It gets a lot of HK punters since it is closer to the train station. I stopped going when they started the sewer work. You can also access the area off of Shennan Lu by taking a right just past the Far East Hotel (there is a drugstore on the corner) go in about 70 meters and turn right into the alleys. FS ST should be 150RMB in the apartments they take you up to.
I will have to check it out again when I have some spare time in Shenzhen.
OAH
Correction - these BBS are alive and kicking - I just did a recon tour. I checked two alleys with about a dozen shops, each with 5+ girls. Looked like decent selection. I did not check prices or partook in any service but it is very clear what is being offered there.
Directions are: Exit Panglin (formerly Hilton). Keep walking straight, cross the main street (fight off an average 3 mamasans and 2 beggars while you wait for the light to turn green), keep going straight. Turn left at the 2nd street (has a barrier that will let only pedestrians through), turn right into one of the small alleys, have fun.
Cheers!
OldAsiaHand
09-23-06, 04:47
One Wing Low,
IMHO, Zhuhai has it all.
OAH
I have 5 days starting in HK then SZ.
Would appreciate some suggestions from experienced hands in China as to where to go in 5 days to maximize:
1. Beautiful girls
2. Good sea food
3. Good entertainment, KTV?
4. Good sight seeing...
Thanks
OldAsiaHand
09-23-06, 04:51
May, did not expect a specific tip for the HJ which was a bit surprising, but I gave her 100 yuan as this is the standard fee in town.
Szexpat,
100RMB is the case in most sauna places in town, however, there are many massage only joints where a HJ is included in the hourly fee, usually 35 RMB. No tip is expected although they usually try to get you to extend to 2 hours.
OAH
Ace Gallant
09-23-06, 14:19
I have 5 days starting in HK then SZ.
Would appreciate some suggestions from experienced hands in China as to where to go in 5 days to maximize:
1. Beautiful girls
2. Good sea food
3. Good entertainment, KTV?
4. Good sight seeing...
Thanks
With the recent Crackdowns in SZ, it is better that either you go to Zhuhai (as suggested by OAH. or travel an hour up to Chang Ping. But in CP...there's no No. 4 (sight seeing) you'll be sight seeing beautiful girls instead.
AG
I have 5 days starting in HK then SZ.
Would appreciate some suggestions from experienced hands in China as to where to go in 5 days to maximize:
1. Beautiful girls
2. Good sea food
3. Good entertainment, KTV?
4. Good sight seeing...
Thanks
If you have the "money", IMHO Macau is the best in China. From the KTVs, to the saunas. Many of the girls if they get a chance would almost kill to get to either Macau or Hong Kong. Many later are disapointed because of the high expense cost of living at big city. Be careful going during a holiday. You can't get a 3 stars hotel for under 800HKD. The rates might have dropped because of several new hotels and more being build. One such example, is part of the new Lisboa Hotel will be open in 4 months. The rest in about 7-10 months. It looks like a big tall penis with a funny looking head. At the bottom it has gold balls. English is even more widely spoken.
But your question was for HK and Shenzhen, then I would go to Shu Tsui or around the Lo Wu Border Area. That is ONLY if you can speak some of the language.
Negative part like Ace Gallant said, there are bad crackdowns. Then there are more scams and a more unsafe.
Fast Eddie 48
09-23-06, 23:16
If you have the "money", IMHO Macau is the best in China. From the KTVs, to the saunas. Be careful going during a holiday. You can't get a 3 stars hotel for under 800HKD. The rates might have dropped because of several new hotels and more being built. Part of the the new Lisboa Hotel will be open in 4 months. The rest in about 7-10 months. English is even more widely spoken.
to weelock
If you have the money who care stay at the new Wynn hotel and casino 2300
rmb a night for their standard room , I think the price will come down when more and more new hotel is build and the casino don,t fill up their high price rooms.
I do agree with weelock the best quality girl from all over China and Asia is at
Macau because there is where the best money is at .
fast eddie 48
Ok, so after a good few days in HouJie and CP, I am ready to tell my sad ripoff tale. It's going to be long, but worth reading if your in the newbie to average level monger category. Again I hate it when I have to quote myself. Never turns out to be a happy story, but here we go...
Fucking terrible last two nights thanks to one evil *****. So bad, I am going to catch a bus tommorrow to HouJie and try to forget it.
Short Story
Ripoff A
#329 "Lina" at Victoria Massage nearby Citic Plaza/Jusco area. This girl is a greedy little ***** evil scammer with oscar award acting skills and a plan. Lost a night of sleep and over 500 RMB down the toilet. Probably more sharks like her at this massage place.
Ripoff be
Not enough loose rmb to cover taxi back, so have to pay with 100rmb note. Driver says "here is 50 first" and hands over a single 50rmb bill. Alarms go off all over, like as in this bill has been waiting all night for someone. Looked it over, and no security stripe. I demand another 50rmb bill. He makes it happen. I dodged this rip-off, but it sure didn't add to my night.
I will tell the long story about this Lina ***** in another report, when I don't feel like strangling her. I might be more objective. I doubt it. I had not tried a non-legit FS massage place in SZ yet, so I decided to explore one. Jusco area is full of them, so I just choose between one of the two with English names, as I am thinking that would be of use to other ISG players. I chose Victoria (pink neon lights). Of note, the other place was called Chicago Club and that place looked more classy, but they were being very discreet and I ended up answering more of their questions than they did mine! Pretty sure they are not a legit spa, but didn't feel like taking the risk or hassle when there are so many other illegit ones all around who just say there girls do it all.
So I book a VIP room at Victoria. The room is nothing to speak of, but has a shower. The hostess starts bring one by one older looking massage girls. I refuse twice, and then she finally brings 3 girls. Two older looking ones, and one cute sweet thing. My eyes light up and brain goes, this girl is really out of place. So I choose her.
In the room, she undresses me and tells me to shower. After shower, she starts a really wimpy poor massage, and then explains do I want fire/ice or boob rubdown or two-girl action. She quotes 300rmb for either of the first two. I don't even ask about two-girl. Now, I explain to her, for that kind of money, I want fire/ice, boob rubdown, and good FS. She says she never does FS with customers the first time, and has only been here long enough to learn fire/ice or boob rubdown. But I insist on FS for 300rmb and as it's high, I will get to play however I want, as in you have to make me happy. Eventually she reluctantly and quietly agrees. I reaffirm we are going to have sex, and she nods her head like a sad little puppy. Yes, I know it's high even for all that, but this girl is sweet, innocent looking, and really-out of place compared to older ladies I was shown.
So then she leads me out of the room with me carrying my stuff and we walk to a stairwell which leads to another floor which is gated and lock. She gets inside attendant to open door, and we move to a similar VIP room area, and the room looks exactly the same as one before. Just the standard dodge police action move.
I lay one the bed waiting inside the room as she go gets hot and ice water. She returns, slaps a condom on and gives the most terrible fire/ice routine possible. It really felt like she had just been trained or told how to perform it a few days ago. After that, she positions herself and sits on my hard cock, sliding it in with a total grimace on her face. Once she sits on it all the way down, she freezes and says it hurts so much that I have to change position or something. So I try to position her into missionary, but even along the way, she locks her legs saying its so painful. Once in missionary position, I try to move my cock, but the slightest movement she locks her legs in pain, and her expression is near tears, with the "wow" it hurts so bad.
At this point I say, fuck this shit. I am not having any fun and this service level is unacceptable for a working girl, and I tell her so. I tell her, I am going to be extra fucking nice and not tell management what a shit performance you gave and still give you 150rmb. She gets all emotional near tears and says, what is 150rmb, and hops into the shower. The room is dark, so I turn on some lights so I can get changed and get out of here. It's now that I see specks of blood all along the condom. I start putting all this together in my head. She looks new and said she was new and was really out-of-place looking compared to all the other older massage girls. Also, she really didn't want to do FS, she gave an ultra newbie fire/ice BJ, and totally locked in pain when my cock was in her. So, OMG pops into my brain, and I go into the shower, and ask her "have you ever made love before. " Again her face and eyes are sad and near tears, and she doesn't answer. I ask her again, telling her I need to know. She says that was the first time.
>>>FUCK ME<<< My head spins, thoughts running all over the place. I don't want the virgin experience. I have never had one, wanted one, or planned for one. Even though I like fresh girls, I don't want a virgin. Too much guilt, which is exactly what I felt now. And on top of that, I bitched her out for bad service. I am on a one-way guilt trip to one of AG's hells.
So I sit her on the bed, and tell her, if I knew, things would of been different (as in me not requesting FS) and why didn't she tell me. She said, how could I tell you such a thing, it's too shameful and I am shy. Then I said, why did you do the sex. She said, who doesn't need money to survive and I overheard all the other girls talk about it, it did not sound painful, but now I hurt really bad inside and she rubs her stomach, I hurt up here too. Then I ask how old she is. Previously, I had guessed she was 18, but she says 16 just in from some village near GZ. I tell her she looks 18, but think inside, then again it's China, shit like that happens, a 16 year old getting sent out to the profession. This adds to the guilt.
Now I tell her we need to sit in the room for a while otherwise management will get curious if we leave too early. While sitting on the bed, I get more of her story. Her family owes a ton of money from building a house in her village, so she got sent out to work. She has an aunt in DG who showed her how to do fire/ice. Her aunt was going to get her big bucks from selling her virginity to some HK guy. Now her aunt would probably kill her once she knew what has happened at work. Her aunt told her not to do FS. All of this rings so true and is what happens in China. Then I asked her why did you make it sound like you had done FS with other customers, like as in the 2nd time it's ok, like you told me before. She says I misunderstood, and that she said earlier she had never had FS with a customer. I remember differently, but it's possible I heard wrong, my thinking isn't real clear at this point. All this time, she gives me the "I want to be as far away from you" look. She asks why I didn't believe her since I saw how much pain she was when I was inside her. I said girls lie about this sometimes to shorten the time customers have sex, and she replies innocently, why would anyone lie about this.
So about ten minutes pass, then I decide its ok to go. I tell her I will pay her the full 300rmb, and not complain to management like I said before. I will walk out a happy customer and not say a word. Also I will see her again, and she can just give me a boob job, no sex required, this way we can have a pleasant night. She seems less sad than before, even a possible twinkle in her eyes when I said I would come back. When I pull out the wallet to give her the 3 bills, I personally add a fourth 100rmb bill. She says, can you add one more. I tell her, uh no, but I will see her again tomorrow and we will have a pleasant time. Give me your cell phone number and tell me when your working. She uses the house phone and scrambles like a cutie again asking her friend to get her phone and figure out her number. She says she just got the phone and didn't know her number. Eventually she gets the number and types it into my phone. We walk out to the entrance counter, and I pay the 88rmb VIP room fee and leave. She walks right out side with me and then is happy as a button as soon as she sees her co-workers. I walk to find a taxi and go home to shower off my guilt. I get back, shower, but to no avail, the is guilt deep and lingers. Can't sleep till the sun comes out.
Ok, next day. At 11pm I head out towards Victoria Massage again. She is in the front happy as a button talking to her co-workers. She sees me and grabs my arm and is quite happy to see me. Smiling and playful all around outside. This time we go straight to the locked off floor. Once inside the room, everything changes. She goes from happy skippy schoolgirl, to whiny, bitchy, and demanding. I tell her I want her boob rubdown as agreed. She says 300rmb and more extra tips and she doesn't want to take her pants off. I think where is this BS coming from, and tell her, your character totally changes once your inside the room from happy cute to whiny *****. She says LE is everywhere and just saw a bust tonight. She had walked over to see the commotion and then walked back. So she was totally afraid to be too naked with a customer. I said, ok, that's fine, then I will give you 100rmb for a topless/only rubdown. She says, that's not enough. I reply, you are kidding? I am being way the fuck generous again. She then says, ok, ok I will do the 300rmb and be totally naked, but we can't have any sex, cause I really hurt from yesterday. I say of course, no sex, I told you the night before, did you forget or something? Then she says, no, but she was really afraid, so how about I get another girl for the sex part. I said no, I just want you, and I reassure her for the third time, we won't have sex.
>>>THEN OUT OF THE FUCKING BLUE<<<
She says, do you bleed the 2nd time? ! At#! #! $%at$#! #! ##! $$#! #! At! Alarms go off all over my head. I tell her no, that's not how it works. But my suspicions are confirmed. The sleepless night I had before was over whether this girl was on her period or a virgin. That whole night I couldn't decide as her story was so made sense everywhere except in two places. So I decided to give her the benefit of the doubt and visit her the next day. But this time, as soon she gave me a hard time to even get her pants off, my other theory starts saying "I told you so. " Then when she asked do you bleed again, it takes all the self control I have to swallow the bile heading up towards mouth, and respond to her kindly. I needed to absolute fucking no for sure, so I told her, if you really need money this fucking bad, I will give you 1000rmb if you come back to a hotel and we do a porno fuckfest. She asks what she would have to do, I say everything I can think of. Considers it for 30 seconds, and says no. So this ***** doesn't like to leave her turf. I know what has happened to be now, and I need to get out before I lose self control. I walk out the room and she follows. Along the way, I say, "you're really fucking good. " She doesn't say anything. I was only in the room 5min, but the front counter demands I pay 88rmb. I am near losing control, so I argue a bit. Also, I know if I don't pay, she has to eat the fucking room charge. But I just pay it and grab a taxi home. On my way out, it's the same. She sees her coworkers infront of the spa and transform into cute, happy, sweet thing.
So before you respond or quote this report I ask:
A) You wait a day or two and then see if you still feel like it's worth your time to reply. I am in no hurry to get sympathy or advice or pointed out where I fucked up. And I don't want "China" fight club to start over this. Be) You READ ALL the following points I make:
1) So why not walk out on the room fee at end? Cause I have been beaten up in Sanya, Hainan, for less money than that. Took weeks for my busted lip and bruises on ear to heal. That fight occured for different reasons and not related to this hobby, but it still illustrates what can happen in China over some chumpchange rmb amount. Another 88rmb tricked out of was not pleasant, but as much as I wanted this little Lina ***** to eat that bill, I didn't feel like watching my back over that amount.
2) Yes I have fucked a girl with her period on. Usually they don't tell you about it or honestly didn't know that time of month was rolling around, so you end up doing it sooner or later. But honestly, I can't fucking tell that blood from the blood of having popped a cherry. It was a thin coating of blood on condom. Of course, since I have never (nor wanted to) pop a cherry, I don't know if there is some tell tale sign; maybe the blood spells out "VIRGIN" or something. Anyways, I don't want to become an expert in either area.
3) If you read my reports, you can tell I am not that easily fooled and I have had fresh nookie before and can spot most imposters. BUT THIS ***** WAS GOOD AND HAD A PLAN FROM THE START. She fooled me. From the beginning she knew she had her period and was going to reel me into this "you stole my cherry" scam. She could interweave truth and fiction into a fantastic lie. Her sad little tale about family owing money and her aunt trying to sell her virginity and her painful acting was ALL TRUE. But it happened six months or a year ago. She just relived it all for me to experience. Because her story was so convincing and her acting Oscar award level, I tossed aside my theory of "girl on period getting around sex" and went with "popped her cherry" Still on my guard, but I really believed her. These things bothered me, but still not enough to beat her acting and planning.
-She was a little money grubbing ***** as soon as anything with numbers/rmb occurs.
-My memory was different that what she told me about doing customers after seeing them twice. Caught that lie, but she covered quick, and my thinking not top notch at that time.
-Her attitude outside the room and inside were like Jeckyll and Hide. Of course, I didn't get to see this the first time till after we did the deed and I was reeled in.
-She kept pushing two-girl action. Fresh girls don't tend to propose double action, but then again management is evil in China, so you never know what they try to get the girls to push.
-I got shown older girl after older girl, and then in the first multiple girl line up I see, a young cute girl. Still not sure if this is useful info, but fits into the scam so well.
-She was trained in DG by her aunt. Now that I have finally been to the DG area, if she was trained there and left to work for a 2nd rate massage parlor in SZ, then it means it was a lie or she was so awful or evil, she got sent packing/blacklisted from DG, and thats hard to do in DG area, plenty of opportunities for working girls.
4) So overall, 500+rmb down the toilet. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, now I don't have to worry I stole a cherry. Lost some pride and money, but a heavy weight lifted off my shoulders. Even admire the scam artist skillz of this girl, when I don't imagine beating her face into the wall.
5) I know there are plenty of other mistakes I probably and did make, or signs I didn't spot. And I know legends like AG or OAH could dodge this ripoff their sleep. I can take criticism, but put some reasoning and thought into it, as I have just spent 3 hours to tell this tale so maybe some other ISG guy doesn't suffer. And I'll be damned if China fight club starts over any of this. I'll have Jackson remove this report before that happens.
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I checked out Tiger 1's report 3521 about honey bar in Shekou on a Sunday afternoon. Small bar, friendly girls, 15 for a tall Qingdao, ST 200. I'll never go to another bar near the ferry, the bars along this street are just as good, friendly and cheap! And considering my bu hao putonghua I did had a good time with an older girl named Ajuan. They really do try with their English. There is another hotel besides the Shui Wan Bao Li, walking south from the honey bar, turn right and it's on the next corner. Didn't have time to investigate room prices, but I will definitely return to this neighborhood and check out the other bars, barber and beauty shops, massage places.
I'm a newbie and would definitely like to meet a few of you guys for an evening out sometime.
Old Mean Dog
09-24-06, 18:45
Narsus out.Bro, what an insane story. Do you live in Shenzhen or China? If your still here, send me a PM and I'll take you to some better places so that you can actually have a good time. BTW: Is your Putonghua hen hao? seems you had a deep conversation with this girl and I don't know many "working" girls that speak good English.
Hello,
I saw you were looking for information about Hedong Hotel.
here are some http://www.chinahotels.net/shenzhen/hedong-hotel.html
I lived ther in juli for 5 days , it was very good except for the breakfast , if you not are chinese.
Around 8pm every day a girl call me at my room and said, massage ok?
Then she came to my room and started to massage, later she ask me for extras , you can have full service for 300 extra!
Regards,
Buttlover
Thanks to you and Manfest.
Will try staying there in December. Either that or at Vienna Hotel in Fu Qiang again.
Thanks.
Thanks to you and Manfest.
Will try staying there in December.
Thanks.Glad to be of some help. Two things in case you do stay at Hedong. There is a China Costruction Bank at the corner. Turn left at the front door, go straight till you hit a major street, and at that corner to the left, this bank is open 7 days a week and converts foreign currency at a decent rate. Also, go further down that street (having turned left), and there is a Watsons and other stores for toiletries. With the flying restrictions (at least from the US), if you need to buy contact solution, mouthwash, etc. Hedong provides some toiletries like toothbrush with toothpaste.
Anyway, have fun.
M
I checked out Tiger 1's report 3521 about honey bar in Shekou on a Sunday afternoon. Small bar, friendly girls, 15 for a tall Qingdao, ST 200. I'll never go to another bar near the ferry, the bars along this street are just as good, friendly and cheap! And considering my bu hao putonghua I did had a good time with an older girl named Ajuan. They really do try with their English. There is another hotel besides the Shui Wan Bao Li, walking south from the honey bar, turn right and it's on the next corner. Didn't have time to investigate room prices, but I will definitely return to this neighborhood and check out the other bars, barber and beauty shops, massage places.
I'm a newbie and would definitely like to meet a few of you guys for an evening out sometime.The hotel opposite is around 250. Not really worth the money unless Shui Wan Bao Li is full, which never happened to me. The Shui Wan Bao Li is the best value for money at 160 a double. A single room even goes at 100. There is another hotel on the opposite side walking up to the mail road. I forgot the name. They charge 170. But one of the girls told me to watch out there, as illegal gambling is going on inside, drawing unwanted attention.
Ace Gallant
09-25-06, 03:20
Ok, so after a good few days in HouJie and CP, I am ready to tell my sad ripoff tale. It's going to be long, but worth reading if your in the newbie to average level monger category. Again I hate it when I have to quote myself. Never turns out to be a happy story, but here we go...
I had not tried a non-legit FS massage place in SZ yet, so I decided to explore one. Jusco area is full of them, so I just choose between one of the two with English names, as I am thinking that would be of use to other ISG players. I chose Victoria (pink neon lights). Of note, the other place was called Chicago Club and that place looked more classy, but they were being very discreet and I ended up answering more of their questions than they did mine! Pretty sure they are not a legit spa, but didn't feel like taking the risk or hassle when there are so many other illegit ones all around who just say there girls do it all.
Narsus out.
Ok Narsus: IMHO:
I would say I give it a matter of doubt but whatever it is both cases your 500 is still worth it. why?:
1) 400RMB to watch and participate in a Oscar winning act is fun! Some of these scammers are soooo... good at this. I ever came across quite a few of these before in my lifetime as a monger. Some bleed some don't and you are right, a number of them had their period in coming and thus takes the full advantage of it to scam you. But what the hell???
2) It is also posibble that she is a real Virgin, some of these village girls are so naive and do not know about the first time thing... I had "by accident" took the Cherry of a Virgin girl in CP and she was a girl I pick up from one of those BBS. That was my first trip to CP and OAH was my guide. At first I had some doubts about it but a few phone calls the few days after from and to mama confirms that this girls had given her Cherry to me and had ran away from the BBS right after my deed. 400 for a virgin... although not as lucky as me who only paid 300, it is still dam hell of lucky!
As what we discuss over breakfast the other day; It is hard to tell a real virgin to a non-virgin during penetation. But you done half a thousand of girls and a few dozen virgins, you can likely to feel it. Of course than again, there is this piece of rubbers (the Condom) that is preventing you for get the full feel of tearing of her hymen amongs other factors that the Hymen is already torn during sports, girls been born without hymen, hymen does not tear on first penetations.... blah blah blah the list goes on and on.
Base on my experience;
1) you can tell the blood from the period from normal blood from the smell, the period smell bad and the odor can be so bad that you can smell it before you see it. Whilst normal blood is usually does not have any odor.
2) Blood from menstruation usually is darker in color compared to fresh blood; which is brighter red in color.
3) These depends from girls to girls but sometimes you may feel the tightness upon penetation. but than again; you cannot tell if the girl is smaller in size or had only been broken in before and had not had sex that often. But I say, for a Sauna girl, they are there to sell their pussy, had not had sex that often???
Anyways... with all these, all I have to say; never mind.... why bother, just take it that your were lucky to pop a virgin for only 400, don't need to fell guilty about it. It is not your responsiblity as she was not clear or had not told you that she had never done it before. IMHO: she knew it was her first time and she chose to give it to you so what the hell? On the other end, if she is trying to scam you, 400 to see a person true color... worth it!
That how I got over it with that CP virgin I broke into.
(Of course than I got framed and mock at by the famous member "Stanley Ho" after my posting about it - that pisses me off)
AG
3)But I say, for a Sauna girl, they are there to sell their pussy, had not had sex that often???
Anyways... with all these, all I have to say; never mind.... why bother, just take it that your were lucky to pop a virgin for only 400, don't need to fell guilty about it. It is not your responsiblity as she was not clear or had not told you that she had never done it before. IMHO: she knew it was her first time and she chose to give it to you so what the hell? On the other end, if she is trying to scam you, 400 to see a person true color... worth it!AGHehe, AG, with you the glass is always not just "half full" but "full full." This Lina was no virgin, so I got to see her true color. Yah, the rmb loss isn't what stung, it's always the pride. Man her planning, story, and acting top notch, so maybe it was worth $$$ to see this girl's acting.
I think your right about sauna girls. The chances of a virgin there are like zero point zero. Considering what a shark this girl is and my feeling is more like her at this sauna, the chances are zero.zero.zero.zero.zero. BBS on the other hand, it can happen. I gotta be more careful, I like the cute young fresh look too.
One thing I didn't get to put in my report (damn submit and preview buttons are too close when your tired and it's late) is that she initiated the sex. I layed there and she went and sat right on xiao didi. Even returning that night, I could explain that because "maybe she is just another dumb china girl who really did listen to here friends so went right ahead and sat on it." Plus her expression of pain face/body along with her cover story why she did was a tough combo to beat. Now thinking about it, NO VIRGIN is going to initiate the action. That's just not how it works, no matter how naive she is or what her friends have told her.
Ace Gallant
09-25-06, 07:07
Hehe, AG, with you the glass is always not just "half full" but "full full." This Lina was no virgin, so I got to see her true color. Yah, the rmb loss isn't what stung, it's always the pride. Man her planning, story, and acting top notch, so maybe it was worth $$$ to see this girl's acting.
I think your right about sauna girls. The chances of a virgin there are like zero point zero. Considering what a shark this girl is and my feeling is more like her at this sauna, the chances are zero.zero.zero.zero.zero. BBS on the other hand, it can happen. I gotta be more careful, I like the cute young fresh look too.
One thing I didn't get to put in my report (damn submit and preview buttons are too close when your tired and it's late) is that she initiated the sex. I layed there and she went and sat right on xiao didi. Even returning that night, I could explain that because "maybe she is just another dumb china girl who really did listen to here friends so went right ahead and sat on it." Plus her expression of pain face/body along with her cover story why she did was a tough combo to beat. Now thinking about it, NO VIRGIN is going to initiate the action. That's just not how it works, no matter how naive she is or what her friends have told her.
Oh that's right...... how would a virgin know that position???
I still Remember that story you told me about your young BBS girl on your first night? Kung Fu came out when you tried to get her on top of you! hahahaha...
AG
Oh that's right. How would a virgin know that position?
I still Remember that story you told me about your young BBS girl on your first night? Kung Fu came out when you tried to get her on top of you! hahahaha.
AGOk just one post from me on this in SZ forum, since this relates to DG experience I have not reported yet.
Yah, Miss "One Position." Legs flying everywhere if I tried to move her out of missionary. Had yet to encounter that from a working girl. On top of it all, Cap Iota said his was a nympho! And yours was obedient!
Ok, I think we all agree that bad shit goes down everywhere, that is why this forum is great.
I've had bad times in Japan, Mumbai, China, Australia, Thailand you name it, experience does help but it does mean a full proof night out.
Even the fact that I've been in Asia for a "long" time I've still found similar situations and can look back on them as "fucking *****, I"ll never go there again"
Anyway, some new KTV's have opened in SheungSa on the main drag, been a few times, prices are 1, 3 5 and clean, they have plasma TV's, toilets in the KTV rooms etc.
Cheers, happy hunting.
Narsus,
OK, that was a really shitty experience for you, so I will try to make some comments without being critical. I have had shitty experiences too, so I know the feeling. And unfortunately, I don't shake off bad experiences very well.
1. Lots of girls will tell you lots of sad stories. They may or may not be true. Who cares! You didn't cause their problems, you are just paying for a service. So, when another girl tells you another sad story, just mumble a few sympathies and get on with the screwing part.
2. After a bad experience, don't go back. At least not to the same girl. Who cares why things happened the way they did, just don't put yourself into a position to get scammed some more.
3. I think you did the right thing by paying the 88 RMB room charge.
Ok, so after a good few days in HouJie and CP, I am ready to tell my sad ripoff tale. It's going to be long, but worth reading if your in the newbie to average level monger category. Again I hate it when I have to quote myself. Never turns out to be a happy story, but here we go.
5) I know there are plenty of other mistakes I probably and did make, or signs I didn't spot. And I know legends like AG or OAH could dodge this ripoff their sleep. I can take criticism, but put some reasoning and thought into it, as I have just spent 3 hours to tell this tale so maybe some other ISG guy doesn't suffer. And I'll be damned if China fight club starts over any of this. I'll have Jackson remove this report before that happens.
Narsus out.
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Yesterday, I met up with Narsus for some joint exploration around SZ area in the afternoon. I had to be in SZ for business transactions in the morning, and took advantage of the trip and stayed in the area. We toured three areas.
1. Fujian massage place ( I want to show him the soapy wash special, since he is a newbie in town, but he is actually catching on real fast ).
2. Wal-Mart BBS area.
3. Queen Spa. (Narsus has a membership in this place)
Fujian Massage - near LoWu station. This is about a 10 minute walk from the station to the pink apartment complex. There are quite a few mamas in this area, and also quite a few hair salon and foot massage places. I believe most of these places offer legit massages. The Fujian place provides a special soapy HJ wash, which I find quite relaxing for an afternoon delight. To me, this is the next best thing to getting FS in the LoWu area. 35rmb per hr + 35rmb soapy wash special.b
Wal-Mart BBS area was pretty dead, except for a few BBS with some older gals. Maybe it is timing or maybe they are getting ready for the Oct 1st national week. We walked a few alleys and bailed.
Queen Spa - my first time here and I classify this place as the Ritz-Carlton of sauna and spas. This is a really grand place with multi-story floors, consists of 40,000 sq m of leisure space and 3000 sq m of spa and massage pool.
There are lots of nice massage gals working here. It is a legit place, but I am sure these cuties can offer GFE to anyone who treats them nice. Entrance fee is 98rmb, waive if you do a massage for 90 mins at 168 - 188 rmb. Narsus was gracious enough to give me the grand tour and we enjoyed a few hours of massages, free drinks, ice cream and fruits are also available.
They also have a nice sleeping area, like the small sleeping cubes at Narita airports. This is a definite repeat for me for future exploration. I may even camp out here for an overnight stay. There is also complimentary pickup and drop off at the LoWu train station.
For info: 0755-8225-3888.
cheers,
Mpfslover
hope this helps some newbies.
LittleGoomba
09-28-06, 11:30
Thanks for the great map as I'm heading down to SZ next week. Helpful both for newbies and old-timers!
hope this helps some newbies.
I haven't been to Britain in a long time, but will be heading there in a few days. Anyone know how strict they are at customs? I'd like to bring in 4 or so pirated dvd's.
I usually declare dvd's on the customs form and overstate the price.
Blvd on top of page is Shennan Lu. KeXueGuan MTR station is about one and a half blocks to the left. Remeber take exit D so that you are on the Southeast side of the blvd.
minkfan
sorry, only been here once so not too knowledgeable about specifics except the entrance.
minkfan
On my last trip to ShaZui is was pretty much business as usual. I was expecting a bit of a downturn given that it was not too far off to National Day and some competition for resources with the other new place, but no it was fine and reasonably good talent available.
After a brief review of the troops, I went with my long time squeeze. It was her day off - again, but gave her a call and she came down in 15 minutes. Action was as good as ever. I was considering to ask her going in about a shuang fei and how comfortable she would be with an extra, but the event was good enough as it was and thus no real need for an extra hand. I will keep reconsidering the option, but after sex it seemed not necessary
On my last trip to ShaZui is was pretty much business as usual. I was expecting a bit of a downturn given that it was not too far off to National Day and some competition for resources with the other new place, but no it was fine and reasonably good talent available.Sadly, just a few days ago, ShaZui was completely desolate, a wasted trip. Of course we happened upon a high level city official and his entourage of gong an (police) and media. Even before they showed up, the pickings were slim. Wadman had informed me it was like this for weeks. I couldn't believe how much it had gone downhill till I saw it for myself. Plenty of locked up KTVs, with some even being remodelled into legitimate store shops. Girl selection down by half and very few of the "hot ones" that keep me coming out to visit ShaZui.
It's good you have a steady there Tangzhen, you are going to need her for a bit. May I ask when you went? I went three weeks ago, and it was like you described. Right now though, this National Day has really taken it's toll on Shazui :(
OldAsiaHand
09-29-06, 12:44
Minkfan1:
Your maps are fantastic. Normally, we refer to your Alley 3 as Alley 2.5 since it stops at the police activity center basket ball court and does not go all the way through. Alley 4 is the last one in from Jusco before you hit the main road on the other side.
OAH
Blvd on top of page is Shennan Lu. KeXueGuan MTR station is about one and a half blocks to the left. Remeber take exit D so that you are on the Southeast side of the blvd.
minkfan
OldAsiaHand
09-29-06, 12:49
Minkfan1:
Great job. I can almost see the girls in the alleys which can be found walking past the roundabout you can see on the right side of the entrance as you marked. The most populated alleys are on the left side starting about midway between the roundabout and the end where that Taiwan coffee shop (Mintian Language?) is.
OAH
sorry, only been here once so not too knowledgeable about specifics except the entrance.
minkfan
I'm adding a map of ShaTsui / ShaZui, and I have put the location of it at #1.
Make note of location #2 as this is the place I found some BBS and had a really nice time with a 18yo girl (read about it in Post #3597). I really wish some of you could try the BBSs in Location #2 and find out if 200 RMB is 6 hours of take-out (I paid 300 RMB for 6 hours takeout).
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=509252&postcount=3597
Dar
Old Mean Dog
10-01-06, 01:31
Went over to the JUSCO BBS's last night with a couple of clients of mine and can report that the area was alive and kicking. There were around 15-20 shops open last night and most all had 5+ girls in them. Maybe it's due to the national holiday.
Not that long ago, maybe a bit over a week ago. Things can change fast there. Could well be some politico decided it would be good to cool the area during National Holiday. I expect it will be back in a month or two. I can give the steady a call and see what is the situation.
It's good you have a steady there Tangzhen, you are going to need her for a bit. May I ask when you went? I went three weeks ago, and it was like you described. Right now though, this National Day has really taken it's toll on Shazui :(
Old Mean Dog
10-04-06, 16:57
I was walking home this evening from King Glory Plaza down Jiabin Lu towards Mixc Plaza (Luohu), passing by the Friendship Hotel, which I often do. Usually, there are 6 or so mamasan's outside the massage joint next to the hotel and I used to think they were just trying to get people inside the place, until tonight.
I had walked up to KGP to meet a sweet little 23 year old farm girl who was a new client of mine and as I passed by the Friendship Hotel, I was accosted by the mama's claiming to offer beautiful girls so, on the way home, I decided I wanted a massage as I had spent the entire day in Guangzhou and was a little tired.
One of the mamasan's approached me and and I asked her how long a 2 hour massage was and she said 300!! I was like WTF for a massage??? then she showed me the universal symbol for sex and I knew "game on".
After I agreed on 200 yuan, she led me down a side street into an apartment building. On the 11th floor, I was led into a room where 7 girls were sitting playing cards. There were about 4 really cute girls and the other 3 were common.
I chose the smallest girl there and was led into a bedroom where a sheet was pulled across the hallway where the other girls sat. We disrobed and she took me into the bathroom, where actually all the other girls could see me shower since the bathroom door was broken! I really didn't mind 7 girls staring at my johnson and tat's and I understand enough Putonghua to know they were talking about me.
After the shower I was led back to the bedroom where we got into the action. She was so tiny and young, but very clean and trimmed. She offered to give me CIMBJ for 50 extra, but I wanted to tap this little ass so I declined. She was skilled and willing to try all the positions, but it was a little distracting with the bright lights on and hearing the other girls in the living room arguing over their card game.
I am not sure if this is a new area or someone had already discovered it, but there is at least 6 mamasan's on Jiabin Lu, another 5-6 on Renmin Lu and I saw a few more on the side street, so I assume each of them has a stable of girls or they are working in pair/teams.
I only had my mobile phone on me so, the photos are small and poor quality.
Name: Tan Yuan
Age: She says 20
Body: 8, if you like them small, petite and tight
Looks: 8 young, nice use of jewerly, painted toes, nice fingernails, clean and nice smelling hair, no body hair and her kitten was trimmed to almost bald.
Skills: 8, she has been taught well and is willing to try positions without bitching about it.
Attitude: 7, good, but maybe wanted to go play cards.
Enjoy!
SZE
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I am not sure if this is a new area or someone had already discovered it, but there is at least 6 mamasan's on Jiabin Lu, another 5-6 on Renmin Lu and I saw a few more on the side streetExcellent sleuthing work Szexpat! I read through the whole SZN thread previously, taking notes on the neighborhoods near where I would stay, and no mention of your new area. This is great as when I return to SZN, this is the area I will probably stay.
One comment, and a few questions: Since it was dine-in, I suspect it could have been 150 RMB.
Just to be clear, this is on the corner of Renmin and Jiabin. If you go further west, you would hit a T with Bao'an lu going north-south, correct? Also, can you comment on the quality and tata sizes of the other girls in that stable?
Thanks
M
Old Mean Dog
10-05-06, 02:44
Excellent sleuthing work Szexpat! I read through the whole SZN thread previously, taking notes on the neighborhoods near where I would stay, and no mention of your new area. This is great as when I return to SZN, this is the area I will probably stay.
One comment, and a few questions: Since it was dine-in, I suspect it could have been 150 RMB.
Just to be clear, this is on the corner of Renmin and Jiabin. If you go further west, you would hit a T with Bao'an lu going north-south, correct? Also, can you comment on the quality and tata sizes of the other girls in that stable?
Thanks
MHi M,
I will try to add a little and answer your questions;
I am not sure about getting much lower than 150 yuan as I do not know the going price for the area. I told here 150 yuan was my price but she was complaining about things far above my level of putonghua so, I felt 200 was ok. This area is actually a very busy location, due to the many hotels, restaurants and massage places so, it may drive the price up a little higher. I will go back and test the area again.
You are correct on location: if you are at the Wal-Mart just a block away from Guo Mao subway station across Renmin Nan Lu are numerous restaurants and 2 massage joints. There are mama's here as well, but I had always assumed they were just trying to get you into the massage places.
If you walk to the corner of Renmin Nan Lu and Jiabin Lu, you will turn left and walk only a block until you are in front of the Friendship Hotel (which might be girl friendly, due to the mama's working around the hotel without any hotel staff bothering them). There is normally approx. 6 mama's in this area.
The apartments are located just behind this hotel and the shops on Renmin Nan Lu on a side street. I am interested in trying out the massage places here on Renmin Nan Lu as well as on the side street, as they may offer full service due to the working girl stables in this area.
The girls in the stable I was taken to: the young tiny one I was with, two that were slender and had big tata's, one had really nice looking ones and was my second choice and finally a Cantonese girl with the darker skin looked tasty. The other 3 were pretty much common, one was somewhat heavy (actully fat for Chinese) had nice tatas, but she was probably there as a HK'er treat.
SZE
Called my steady down in ShaZui and she said come on by, no problem. I expect any dropoff in girls is for goldenweek and no YanDa in progress. I will try to get a first hand report in shortly.
Peace,
TZ
Fast Eddie 48
10-06-06, 13:53
Called my steady down in ShaZui and she said come on by, no problem. I expect any dropoff in girls is for goldenweek and no YanDa in progress. I will try to get a first hand report in shortly.
Peace,
TZ
to tangzhen
I was there on monday many ktv is shut down but there is a lot of girl at the bbs thing are slow no customer , Find a girl from hunan xi li best gfe exp I have in sha tsui area , She give a long body massage bbbj for 15 min and stay with me for one hr plus in my hotel room have her cell phone will call her for all nighter when I go back to shenzhen next week .
I also saw a fight between an husband and wife owner of a bbs stool and stick is used no police around a large crowd is watching most of their girl is scare and run away , It is a very enjoyable night at sha tsui.
fast eddie 48
Does anyone know if it is possible to get a visa at the Huanggang border for a Canadian Passport?
I am hoping to get across the border by the shuttle bus directly from HK Airport.
Appreciate the help.
Diver
Cebu Local
10-07-06, 02:37
Does anyone know if it is possible to get a visa at the Huanggang border for a Canadian Passport?
I am hoping to get across the border by the shuttle bus directly from HK Airport.
Appreciate the help.
DiverYes Canadians can get Shenzen Visas at the border.I am Canadian myself.Americans cannot
Yes Canadians can get Shenzen Visas at the border.I am Canadian myself.Americans cannotDoes a Shenzen visa allow one into China proper, or only into Shenzen? What is the cost and duration of said visa for a Canadian?
Thanks
Old Mean Dog
10-07-06, 14:07
I went with my new friend to her apartment today over in Nanshan. As we turned onto her street, Xue Fu Lu, I observed 6 BBS's all in a row with half a dozen or more girls in each shop. My friend asked me if I knew what they were and of course I played innocent.
Does anyone have experince with this area?
Does a Shenzen visa allow one into China proper, or only into Shenzen? What is the cost and duration of said visa for a Canadian?A one time entry visa costs 50 Canadian Dollars, but other types of visas can run up to 150 (depending on double entry, 6-months, etc). Each visit allows for 30 day stays. There is no such thing as a Shenzhen-only visa (at least I haven't heard of one). Shenzhen is in PRC, and once there, you can travel to other parts without going through other customs inspections.
Cebu Local
10-08-06, 00:08
Does a Shenzen visa allow one into China proper, or only into Shenzen? What is the cost and duration of said visa for a Canadian?
ThanksIt is valid only within the Shenzen SEZ and valid only for 5 days,It is different from the normal China Visa.I havent bought one recently since I use a 1 year Multiple entry and I use Zhuhai s 3 day Pearl River Delta visa for my South China tour groups.These are valid for the whole Guangdong Province
Cebu Local
10-08-06, 00:16
A one time entry visa costs 50 Canadian Dollars, but other types of visas can run up to 150 (depending on double entry, 6-months, etc). Each visit allows for 30 day stays. There is no such thing as a Shenzhen-only visa (at least I haven't heard of one). Shenzhen is in PRC, and once there, you can travel to other parts without going through other customs inspections.As a travel agent and South China Tour operator,I have to know my visas.Shenzen has a border passport and visa check with the rest of China along with Zhuhai SEZ.There are all kinds of Visas,There are normal visas,Shenzen visas valid only for Shenzen,Pearl River Delta visas valid for Guangdong,Shanghai 48 hour transit visas valid only in Shanghai issued only in Shanghai etc.Prices also depend on nationality,Americans pay more cannot get at the border,while Canadians pay less and can get at the border
I will be in SZ on the 16-20 and looking for some action, after a month of work I need some serious relief!
PM me if anybody is interested in mongering in the area together.
Where is a good place to get a small supply of this?
Would the local pharmacies cater to foreigners?
Superforce99
10-08-06, 02:10
Cebu Local is right, there are several types of visas available to enter China.
Maybe Manfest hasn't heard of the Shenzhen-only permit because it's less like
a visa and more like a temporary permit. I've never seen it advertised by travel
agents in HK and first found out about it when going to a golf course in SZ from HK.
I used it once, a few years ago when Americans could still apply for it, and it
was pretty fast and painless. The whole thing can be finished in about 10 minutes
in the Luo Hu Border crossing building in SZ. The cost was 100 RMB and the
temporary visa was good for 5 days.
Technically, the permit is only good for travel within Shenzhen, but realistically,
nobody checks this document while you travel. I've even had a friend use this
permit to go all the way to Shanghai (airlines check your passport but not visa
for domestic travel in China) and fly out of Shanghai back home to Australia with
only this permit and no regular travel visa. He did have to pay a penalty fee for
leaving Shenzhen with this permit, but end of the story was he flew home with
few problems other than the fee and giving a fake sob/ignorance story to the
visa officer.
As recently as about 4 months ago, the details I give haven't changed for non-US
and non-UK citizens.
J
Does a Shenzen visa allow one into China proper, or only into Shenzen? What is the cost and duration of said visa for a Canadian?
ThanksWith the Shenzhen Visa you can only stay 5 days in the Shenzhen special Economic Zone. Shenzhen itself is way bigger. So you can't even go to the airport or any factory near there.
Actually you can, since nobody checks you leaving the zone, but you may run into trouble coming back, or staying in a hotel outside. I wouldn't take that risk.
They keep on changing rules on how to handle suhc a case. So I consider the
guy Johnny mentioned lucky.
The price was 150 HK$ last time I did that for a Thai girl a few months back, and I think Canada is not on the list of countries that have to pay more. (but Britain and Holland is, and many more. See the list at the Japan Travel website. A link is in the Hong Kong Maps thread)
So it should still be around this price.
Cebu Local is right, there are several types of visas available to enter China.
Maybe Manfest hasn't heard of the Shenzhen-only permit because it's less like
a visa and more like a temporary permit. I've never seen it advertised by travel
agents in HK and first found out about it when going to a golf course in SZ from HK.
J
This Visa when it was widely available to everyone including the U.S. was designed for people working in Hong Kong and wanted to come to Shenzhen for the weekend. Wish they still have it for U.S. passport, it was very fast and easy for a short trip.
This Visa when it was widely available to everyone including the U.S. was designed for people working in Hong Kong and wanted to come to Shenzhen for the weekend. Wish they still have it for U.S. passport, it was very fast and easy for a short trip.If you live in HK and go to Shenzhen or other places in China for the weekend, a 1 year multiple is way cheaper. The Shenzhen visa needs a full page in the passport every time. If you hold a permanent HK ID you can even get a 2 years multiple, but then with a 30 days restriction.
If you live in HK and go to Shenzhen or other places in China for the weekend, a 1 year multiple is way cheaper. The Shenzhen visa needs a full page in the passport every time. If you hold a permanent HK ID you can even get a 2 years multiple, but then with a 30 days restriction.
I agree with you on this however when I worked in Taiwan a few years ago, I used to fly to Hong Kong and then use the 5 day visa to go into Shenzhen since it was difficult to get a 1 year visa back then. It was nice and fast. I really miss this visa. I hate it when the Chinese government targets the U.S. and take it out on us as if we can do anything to infulence our government on what they do.
Quick question: I was wondering, if I was to be staying in SZ for about 2 weeks, would it be possible for me to border hop back and forth between SZ and HK with any problems at the border or would I require a re-entry visa?
Old Mean Dog
10-08-06, 17:08
Quick question: I was wondering, if I was to be staying in SZ for about 2 weeks, would it be possible for me to border hop back and forth between SZ and HK with any problems at the border or would I require a re-entry visa?You need a multi-entry visa for border hopping and crossing everyday would be a pain in the ass.
Why all this talk about visas? Isn't there another froum for this?
Old Mean Dog
10-08-06, 17:16
Did some window shopping at the BBS's by JUSCO this evening, there seemed to once again be quite a few shops open, but the quality of girls has gone down some. I noticed a lot of fat girls in almost every shop!! I did see a few younger, fresher ones but opted for a FS massage across the street, from a 25 year old cutie from Henan Province. Damage: 200 tip plus 88 for a 2 hour VIP room massage.
It is valid only within the Shenzen SEZ and valid only for 5 days,It is different from the normal China Visa.I havent bought one recently since I use a 1 year Multiple entry and I use Zhuhai s 3 day Pearl River Delta visa for my South China tour groups.These are valid for the whole Guangdong ProvinceThanks CL et al for your replies. If I decide to visit in the Spring, it appears that the smartest option for me would be to pick up a regular $50 visa here in Ottawa. Not speaking or reading Chinese is a bit scary though.
Regards
Thanks Szexpat for clarifying this. I guess I will get another visa while my short stay in GZ. I hope to get into some serious mongering action once I leave Fuzhou from my business trip for GZ, SZ, and HK.
First time mongering and I certainly hope that all will turn out to be a real life changing experience.
Hoping to check out Jusco and Sha Chui once I get in (no pun intended).
Thanks to all posters for the abundance of information provided. Will hope to have my first real monger post up soon.
You need a multi-entry visa for border hopping and crossing everyday would be a pain in the ass.
Why all this talk about visas? Isn't there another froum for this?
Thanks CL et al for your replies. If I decide to visit in the Spring, it appears that the smartest option for me would be to pick up a regular $50 visa here in Ottawa. Not speaking or reading Chinese is a bit scary though.
Regards
Don't worry about not being able to read or speak Chinese. You won't have any problem getting what you want in China. There are a lot of foreigners here that does not speak any Chinese and gets along just fine. It will of course be more fun if you get to hookup with other guys where you are here. Most of guys here are great and is willing to go out of their way to show a new guy around. Hate to see you pass up a great time due to your fears.
Fast Eddie 48
10-11-06, 10:29
Many hotel in Shenzhen is full this week because of the China Hi Tech fair ,many hotel rise the price 30-40% I am stay at Vienna hotel Futain this
week is 325rmb a night normal is 260 rmb a night .
fast eddie 48
Tequila Kid
10-12-06, 00:31
Did some window shopping at the BBS's by JUSCO this evening, there seemed to once again be quite a few shops open, but the quality of girls has gone down some. I noticed a lot of fat girls in almost every shop!! I did see a few younger, fresher ones but opted for a FS massage across the street, from a 25 year old cutie from Henan Province. Damage: 200 tip plus 88 for a 2 hour VIP room massage.
Szexpat,
What is the name and/or location for the massage FS shop?
I tried one, about 2 years ago (on the main street behind Jusco, before you get to the BBS alleys) but was disappointed. Poor massage & HJ by distracted girl, no full service.
I have read mixed reviews on the forum about getting massage service in Shenzhen. My own experience is also mixed. A few times I got a great massage then ok HJ, but most of the time its been poor massage and so-so HJ. I would like know where to get a decent massage then at least BBBJ or FS. Prefer locations around Futian, ...but beggars (or horny mongers) can't be choosers.
TK
Tequila Kid
10-12-06, 00:32
Did some window shopping at the BBS's by JUSCO this evening, there seemed to once again be quite a few shops open, but the quality of girls has gone down some. I noticed a lot of fat girls in almost every shop!! I did see a few younger, fresher ones but opted for a FS massage across the street, from a 25 year old cutie from Henan Province. Damage: 200 tip plus 88 for a 2 hour VIP room massage.
About low turn-out of Jusco BBS providers, I wonder if many PRC girls are shipped to Hong Kong for the Hong Kong Electronics fair (Oct 11 - 14)?
Its a bigger and richer show than Shenzhen High Tech Fair (Oct 12 ~ 17).
Are BBS shops in ShaZui also low on girls?
TK
Old Mean Dog
10-12-06, 02:51
Szexpat,
What is the name and/or location for the massage FS shop?
I tried one, about 2 years ago (on the main street behind Jusco, before you get to the BBS alleys) but was disappointed. Poor massage & HJ by distracted girl, no full service.
I have read mixed reviews on the forum about getting massage service in Shenzhen. My own experience is also mixed. A few times I got a great massage then ok HJ, but most of the time its been poor massage and so-so HJ. I would like know where to get a decent massage then at least BBBJ or FS. Prefer locations around Futian, ...but beggars (or horny mongers) can't be choosers.
TKAcross the street from the 7-11 where the BBS's are, it has one of those waterfalls in the window. Make sure you tell them VIP room (88 yuan) and if they try to take you to the 3rd floor, point upwards. The FS massage rooms are on the 4th floor and you have to take a hidden stairwell to get there.
Enjoy
Sexdicknlick
10-12-06, 05:05
Hi Wadman,
I am just a guest member and I am interested to try the ****heavenly**** spa. I have been to shenzhen several times and spent a few months there. I will be coming back soon. The girl you mentioned ching ching and you descriptions of her statistics and her dislike to swallow is same as one girl who used to work in the new east international club which is a multi storey spa, massage, karaoke and restuarant joint and a supposedly no hanky panky place. I would like to hook up with this girl and appreciate the heavenly tel no from you.
Many many thanks
Hi all,
First of all, let me introduce myself. I am an overseas Chinese, am stationed in FengGang (Shenzhen), have been in China for about 6 months now. My Mandarin is [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-poor, I have been trying very hard to learn for the last 2 months, but it's a lot of TingBuDong's (can't hear properly) and BuMingBai's (don't understand) for now.
The CastFast hotel is an upscale place located in the village of GuanJinTou. I have been to their Happy Spa quite a few times. The Happy Spa is a legitimate spa, the door has (matted) glass and cannot be locked. So no hanky-panky, except for the one girl who always gives me a hand job. I am pretty sure it is illegal, because she is really nervous while doing it, keeps looking at the door, and covers up when somebody walks by. Sorry, cannot post her number as she is my part-time girlfriend now.
The Happy Spa is conspicuously advertised and has a grand entrance. About 10 meters from the Happy Spa is the ***Heavenly*** Spa, with a much smaller entrance. Rooms in the Heavenly spa are nice and clean, with bathroom. I went there around 6:15 PM.
They don't really have mamasans, they are called "Guest Service Captains". I get the impression that the girls for the establishment, not the mamas/captains. She quotes me 400 RMB for regular service (PuTong), 500 for something better, 600 for something which I could not understand, and 800 for the best kind of service (zui hao). There is no bargaining. I opt for the 500.
She brings the girls in 2 at a time! Is this normal? How are you suppose to make a proper choice like this? I refuse the 2, she brings in the next batch of 2 which I was just about to refuse again when I noticed that one of them has pretty big tits, probably C's. She is about 5'3'', big boobs, just a little bit of baby fat on her, decent face, good teeth (lots of PRC chicks have horrible teeth), from Hunan.
Her name is Ching Ching (or Qing Qing). She helps me undress and shower. Supposedly they have porn on TV, but either the girl couldn't find the channel or it was too early in the evening.
First off is the blowjob. There is the usual treatment with the cups of different liquids which she takes in her mouth. She is pretty good, and has a pretty face too. Of course, just about any chick's face looks good when it has my dick in it!
From the FRs here, it seems that most PRC chicks don't like doing BJs, so I enjoy it while I can. After sucking my dick for a full hour, she wants me to mount her, and starts to complain that she is tired and that her jaw hurts. I pretend not to understand her complaints because of the language (partially true), and she accuses me of using it as an excuse. This kind of treatment makes Xiao Didi go limp, so of course she has to bring him back to life with more oral action. I ask her if I can shoot into her mouth, she says no, she will throw up.
Xiao Didi comes back to life, she slips on the raincoat on him, and I proceed to mount her. She is tight(!) for a girl her size. Pretty much had to force little brother in there. Did her mish, cowgirl, then pop in mish.
We shower again, and then she gets dressed and tells me time is almost up. She told me it was for 2 hours! It was 1.5 hours, 1 hour 45 minutes if you include the initial shower. Sure enough, a few minutes later the phone rings to indicate that time is up.
Damage: 215 for room, 500 for girl
Looks: about a 6-7. Nice tits, reasonably pretty face, so-so legs, a few marks/blotches on her butt.
BBBJ: yes
AR: no
GFE: somewhat, until she started complaining about length of BJ
number: don't know
Massage: none whatsoever
RTF: no. was OK, but will try another chick next time.
I would like opinions from the seasoned veterans from this board.
1. Is 215 (room) + 500 (girl) too much for HC action? The CastFast hotel is a 4/5 star place, so generally speaking their prices are not cheap. For a regular 2 hour massage, it's 128 RMB.
2. Do most HCs have time limits, and if so, does 2 hours usually mean 90-105 minutes? I should be obvious by now that I am rookie at cheonging.
3. Is it normal for them to bring out 2 girls at a time? How do I ask to see more at once?
4. Any guesses as to what the 800 RMB option would have gotten me? Would like to know of out curiosity if nothing else, but would also like to know what it is, before paying for it.
5. Any recommendations for better/cheaper places in the area? I have a car and can drive, but don't know the roads very well, cannot read road signs because I cannot read Chinese. Cannot really stay overnight, or out too late because of family reasons. If anyone in the FengGang/LongGang/TangXia (maybe even Yantian) area wants to go out together, let me know. Could potentially drive to the promised land of ChangPing/HouJie, if we leave early.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.
Poupard2000
10-12-06, 08:57
Poupard is in Shenzen for the first time .
Does the massage parlour at the 5 th floor provide sex services ? What is the price ?
What are the alternative in the area ? The K bar is at the 7 th floor.
Is it a pick up place ?
Thanx
They have been pressuring out quite a few of the ktv over the past number of months, but at the same time, just opened a new one near the dropoff point. Normal stuff, some group falling out of favor, while another group has the new in position. Good to hear you hooked up with a nice ride. I hopefully will be down there this weekend and may try to set up a threesome if my steady will hook up a bisexual girl.
to tangzhen
I was there on monday many ktv is shut down but there is a lot of girl at the bbs thing are slow no customer
fast eddie 48
Hi All,
I will b going to ShenZhen next month for some fun. My trip will fly from Singapore to Macau and then i have to figure out how to ge to shenzhen from there.
Hope some brother here can give some advise.
I need to go to FuTian area. Is it far from Jusco and ShaTsui ?
Cheers
Kuailan
Hi All,
I will b going to ShenZhen next month for some fun. My trip will fly from Singapore to Macau and then i have to figure out how to ge to shenzhen from there.
Hope some brother here can give some advise.
I need to go to FuTian area. Is it far from Jusco and ShaTsui ?
Cheers
Kuailan
They have a ferry that goes from Macau to Shenzhen. I think there are 3 per day. From there it is pretty close to Fu Tian by taxi (less than 70rmb)
OldAsiaHand
10-12-06, 16:46
Kuailan:
ShaTsui is in Futian. Jusco is not far away, 10-15 minutes by cab or subway.
OAH
Hi All,
I will b going to ShenZhen next month for some fun. My trip will fly from Singapore to Macau and then i have to figure out how to ge to shenzhen from there.
Hope some brother here can give some advise.
I need to go to FuTian area. Is it far from Jusco and ShaTsui ?
Cheers
Kuailan
Kuailan:
ShaTsui is in Futian. Jusco is not far away, 10-15 minutes by cab or subway.
OAH
Thanks bro Csun213 and OAH,
As i remember whati read through the FR mostly on BBS and massage palace, is there any interesting karaOK joint or disco to have fun with. Please Ignore me if i'm mistaken.
Will try explore and report back. By the way, will it be nearer if i travel from HogKong to ShenZhen?
Cheers
Kuailan
Thanks bro Csun213 and OAH,
As i remember whati read through the FR mostly on BBS and massage palace, is there any interesting karaOK joint or disco to have fun with. Please Ignore me if i'm mistaken.
Will try explore and report back. By the way, will it be nearer if i travel from HogKong to ShenZhen?
Cheers
Kuailan
There are KTV all over the place however KTV is only fun if you go with a group of people. There are also a lot of discos. It all depend on what type of fun you are looking for.
If you are in Hong Kong then Shenzhen Lo Wu area is very close. It just depnd on where you are in HK and where you want to go in SZ.
We can probably help more if you give more detail on what you would like to do.
Does anybody know what happened to the web site www.******.com? I have used it before when planning a trip to Hong Kong and the quality of the graphics and ease of use has gone down tremendously.
Last time my experience was with a hotel reservation with a wonderful young lady of 19 years. The price stated was 700 but when the lady showed it went up to 800 (I guess for Taxi,etc.) and it wasn't an hour but 45 minutes, still a great experience. One of the best blow jobs I ever had. She was from Tianjin about a 7.5 to an 8, a great time with her in the shower and of course in bed.
Also is there a guide in English to different saunas in Hong Kong and Shenzhen?.
Web site addresses and or links would be appreciated.
Are there any web sites similar to www.******.com or are there ones for Shenzhen and elsewhere in China?
Cheers!
Old Mean Dog
10-14-06, 03:53
I was over by the Luohu Train Station last night doing some scouting with a buddy of mine and we ended up at the metro exit over by the pink apartments that many have commented about here (behind the Shangri-La Hotel). We were assulted by the mommies as soon as we came up to ground level from the underground, but as we walked down the street, we came upon one of the small village like areas next to the pink apartments where many mommies and work girls were going about their daily lives. There were quite a few Shu Fu Massage Shops there and was wondering if anyone has any experience here or is this the actual area that people have been writing about? I did see many cuties and I had one mommy down to 130 yuan for FS while one of those shops offered us a massage for 20 rmb plus tip to the girl.
Old Mean Dog
10-14-06, 19:07
I was over behind the Seibu Store over on Dongmen Lu (across from the Panglin Hotel) and can report that the quality of girls and the amount of shops there was outstanding!
Far better than JUSCO BBS's and could rival other areas of Shenzhen.
I saw at least 20 shops open and ALL of them were fully stocked with at least 6-12 girls in everyone of them. The girls ranged from seasoned vet to straight off the train youngsters, I was totally impressed and price was the standard 150 yuan.
Later on, I hit a massage joint about 2 blocks away. It was very nice and clean with full size beds and private bathrooms....fee was 118 yuan for a 2 hour massage which included a HJ. I had a sweet 20 year old from Jiangxi Province name Feifei, she was about 5' tall with big nice breasts (Manfest pay attention) who let me play with them while she was servicing me.
If anyone wants the name or location of the Massage Joint, PM me and I'll scan the card for ya.
SZE
Sexpat,
I have been to the area that you describe. My experience was at a barber shop, the ones with the uniforms and the girls all hanging out. I had a hair massage and was asked if I wanted to have a body massage. I said yes, with the girl that did my hair expecting it would be a real massage and then some. It was not.
I was led to an upstairs room, no shower. I was asked to put on a pair of shorts and then got a massage, not the best. I have had worse, nothing more than that and it was with her clothes on.
Perhaps I picked the wrong spot or perhaps she didn't like me, who knows?
I think the total for both the massage and the hair massage was somewhere between 40 and 60 RMB. I don't remember as it was a few months ago.
Is this the type of place that you were referring to?
By the way, what exactly is it that you were scouting for at the train station?
I would like to try another barber shop experience, am I missing something, or all the places like that?
Cheers!
Old Mean Dog
10-15-06, 04:13
Sexpat,
Is this the type of place that you were referring to?
By the way, what exactly is it that you were scouting for at the train station?
I would like to try another barber shop experience, am I missing something, or all the places like that?
Cheers!It probably is the same area I was in. I could certainly tell some of the girls were working girls and we had several mommies latch onto us giving us the international symbol for sex. Sometimes you need to be rather blunt with them about what your wanting and I've seen many shy away from lao wai because of the stories about how hung we are.
I live here so, I am always looking for other mongering areas in town for myself, some of my clients, and my friends on ISG.
Did you ever see the movie "My Fair Lady"? it's the other reason we were around the train station.
PM me if you would would like to do some mongering. I'm usually available most evenings and weekends.
Does anybody know what happened to the web site www.******.com? I have used it before when planning a trip to Hong Kong and the quality of the graphics and ease of use has gone down tremendously.
Last time my experience was with a hotel reservation with a wonderful young lady of 19 years. The price stated was 700 but when the lady showed it went up to 800 (I guess for Taxi,etc.) and it wasn't an hour but 45 minutes, still a great experience. One of the best blow jobs I ever had. She was from Tianjin about a 7.5 to an 8, a great time with her in the shower and of course in bed.
Also is there a guide in English to different saunas in Hong Kong and Shenzhen?.
Web site addresses and or links would be appreciated.
Are there any web sites similar to www.******.com or are there ones for Shenzhen and elsewhere in China?
Cheers!
do not know of any sites for China. the ones you are thinking of arae only for HK. please correct me if i am wrong.
Hi SZexpat,
Can you share some more detail about the location of the Seibu BBS's?
If the Panglin Hotel is located on the Northwest corner of Dongmen Lu and Jiabin Lu, where is the Seibu department store?
Is the location easy to find behind the department store?
This is a great discovery since I always stay at the Shang. I don't like it, but hey, it's free, so can't complain.
If I want to travel on the cheap I can take the subway to Jusco and if I don't see anything I like I can stop by this location via subway on the way back.
thanks,
minkfan
Old Mean Dog
10-15-06, 10:53
Hi SZexpat,
Can you share some more detail about the location of the Seibu BBS's?
If the Panglin Hotel is located on the Northwest corner of Dongmen Lu and Jiabin Lu, where is the Seibu department store?
Is the location easy to find behind the department store?
This is a great discovery since I always stay at the Shang. I don't like it, but hey, it's free, so can't complain.
If I want to travel on the cheap I can take the subway to Jusco and if I don't see anything I like I can stop by this location via subway on the way back.
thanks,
minkfanIf you walk out the front door of the Panglin and look arcross Dongmen Lu, you will be looking right at the Seibu Dept Store. Walk across the street towards the store on Jiabin Lu, after you have passed it look to your left (it's one or two blocks past) you will see a street that is blocked from cars entering, it's got some kind of security gate there, pass through it and start looking to your right. Wander down any of the alleys and you will see multiple shops with girls in them, some girls just sitting outside in the alley, some walking around on the street, many with the famous blue neon barber poles. I was there on a Saturday night around 10 pm so I am sure the inventory was a bit better.
Enjoy!
SZE
Hi SZexpat,
I was wondering if I interpreted your directions correctly. Please take a look at the attached map.
thanks,
minkfan
Old Mean Dog
10-16-06, 02:34
Hi SZexpat,
I was wondering if I interpreted your directions correctly. Please take a look at the attached map.
thanks,
minkfanThat is exactly spot on.
OldAsiaHand
10-16-06, 03:53
Minkfan1,
You are amazing. It is not "approx.", it is the exact location. How do you get the images so clear at such low altitudes?
Thanks for checking it out SZexpat. I'll definitely have to go over and take a look soon. I reckon it has been a couple of years since I've been in that area. It was one of the first mongering places I patronized in SZ many years ago.
OAH
Hi SZexpat,
I was wondering if I interpreted your directions correctly. Please take a look at the attached map.
thanks,
minkfan
Bob Builder
10-16-06, 07:28
The name of the place in Cantonese. Live chicken inside the village and a pretty mean chicken hotpot and beers on the road running along side. Not as popular to most HK mongers due to being in centre of city so perceived higher LE presence and no KTV.
Is a feeder area for the touts and hotel takeout. That is why the gals are packaged (dressed better) so as to be able to get through hotel security, not a slutty in most cases.
Hi OAH,
Thanks for the compliment. It's just my way of contributing to the forum.
I guess it was a nice clear day when the sat images refreshed. Last time I saw LuoWu it was dark and cloudy.
minkfan
There are KTV all over the place however KTV is only fun if you go with a group of people. There are also a lot of discos. It all depend on what type of fun you are looking for.
If you are in Hong Kong then Shenzhen Lo Wu area is very close. It just depnd on where you are in HK and where you want to go in SZ.
We can probably help more if you give more detail on what you would like to do.
Hi Bro Csun,
Thanks for the info. There will be 3 of us and we decided to get the ferry directly from Macau to ShenZhen.
Any idea where will the ferry land and how to get to Futian from the port?
We would like to experience some Ktv and Disco just for eyes opening purpose. Because i heard it was simply great as compare to any joint in Malaysia and Thai.
Cheers
Kuailan
Kuailan
There are 3 ferrys a day from Macau to Shenzhen, the last one leaves I believe 6:30pm. It leaves from the Shekou port in Macau which is at the far western end of Av Almeida Ribiero. Fare is 120. It goes to Shekou which is a 20-30 minute taxi ride to Futian.
There are a few discos in Shekou within walking distance from the Shekou ferry dock, there's one called the Terrace, you will probably see many FL girls there. There are also many bars near the Nanshan and Haitao hotels, but lady drinks for some of these places are expensive (60!!) and the girls will literally carry you into the bar. ST 300. Expensive because so many foreigners live around there.
Hi Bro Csun,
Thanks for the info. There will be 3 of us and we decided to get the ferry directly from Macau to ShenZhen.
Any idea where will the ferry land and how to get to Futian from the port?
We would like to experience some Ktv and Disco just for eyes opening purpose. Because i heard it was simply great as compare to any joint in Malaysia and Thai.
Cheers
Kuailan
There are taxi waiting right outside of the Ferry as you leave. Just tell him where you want to go. If would be best if you have a name card or speak some Chinese. The fare to Fu Tain should not be more than 70rmb because it costs about 75rmb from the ferry station to Lo Wu which is farther away.
Just to let you know that there are 2 types of KTV girls, 1 type will sit, drink and play games with you but will not leave the KTV. The 2nd type is the ones that will go to your hotel with you. check with the mamason to make sure you get the type you want. Most KTV in SZ have someone who speak some English. KTV may look better than the BBS due to they dress better and knows how to put on makeup however they are more expensive and not as good in bed as the BBS girls. Just my 2 cents.
Kuailan
There are 3 ferrys a day from Macau to Shenzhen, the last one leaves I believe 6:30pm. It leaves from the Shekou port in Macau which is at the far western end of Av Almeida Ribiero. Fare is 120. It goes to Shekou which is a 20-30 minute taxi ride to Futian.
There are a few discos in Shekou within walking distance from the Shekou ferry dock, there's one called the Terrace, you will probably see many FL girls there. There are also many bars near the Nanshan and Haitao hotels, but lady drinks for some of these places are expensive (60!!) and the girls will literally carry you into the bar. ST 300. Expensive because so many foreigners live around there.
Bro,
Thanks for the info. In Macau the port is also named Shekou?
Must find some time to explore this shekou in Shenzhen.
Cheers
Kuailan
There are taxi waiting right outside of the Ferry as you leave. Just tell him where you want to go. If would be best if you have a name card or speak some Chinese. The fare to Fu Tain should not be more than 70rmb because it costs about 75rmb from the ferry station to Lo Wu which is farther away.
Just to let you know that there are 2 types of KTV girls, 1 type will sit, drink and play games with you but will not leave the KTV. The 2nd type is the ones that will go to your hotel with you. check with the mamason to make sure you get the type you want. Most KTV in SZ have someone who speak some English. KTV may look better than the BBS due to they dress better and knows how to put on makeup however they are more expensive and not as good in bed as the BBS girls. Just my 2 cents.
Bro,
Once again thanks for your quick response. We can speak and read Chinese so it shouldn't be a big problem.
Wow my trip looks like a lot of interesting places to visit.
1) BBS (can the girl follow us back for LT)
2) Massage Palace
3) KTV
4) Disco
5) Some Shopping
6) A lot of road side and restaurant local food
Any other suggestion?
Cheers
Kuailan
Old Mean Dog
10-17-06, 14:18
Bro,
Once again thanks for your quick response. We can speak and read Chinese so it shouldn't be a big problem.
Wow my trip looks like a lot of interesting places to visit.
1) BBS (can the girl follow us back for LT)
2) Massage Palace
3) KTV
4) Disco
5) Some Shopping
6) A lot of road side and restaurant local food
Any other suggestion?
Cheers,
KuailanIf you partake in the first part of #6, you won't have to worry about 1-5 because you'll be on the shitter the whole time shooting flames out your ass! Be VERY careful of roadside food stands!!
Bro,
Once again thanks for your quick response. We can speak and read Chinese so it shouldn't be a big problem.
Wow my trip looks like a lot of interesting places to visit.
1) BBS (can the girl follow us back for LT)
2) Massage Palace
3) KTV
4) Disco
5) Some Shopping
6) A lot of road side and restaurant local food
Any other suggestion?
Cheers
Kuailan
Yes, the girls can go back to your hotel for LT. Just make sure you agree on the price first.
If you like shopping and eating then you will be in for a great time. There are so many things to see. Just make sure you don't accept the first price given on anything you purchase except in department store (what you see is what you pay)
Hi fellow mongers,
Last time in SZ, my friend brought me to a location where both sides of the street was filled with seafood restaurants. Does anyone know the specific location of the area? I remember that it was in Lowu close to the Dongmen shopping area.
thanks,
minkfan
Hi fellow mongers,
Last time in SZ, my friend brought me to a location where both sides of the street was filled with seafood restaurants. Does anyone know the specific location of the area? I remember that it was in Lowu close to the Dongmen shopping area.
thanks,
minkfan
Actually it is right behind Jing Peng Hotel. If you leave Dongmen (with your back to Dongmen) go across the street using the overpass. Then just walk straight for about 10 minutes, you will come to an intersection with no stop light or stop signs. there will be a traffic jam (always), turn left and the entire street on both side are full of seafood resturants. Very cheap. I would recommend you walk the entire street then decide which resturant you want to eat. This would be hard because there will be a lot of hosts out there drag you into their resturant, you just have to fight them off until you see something you like. The live seafood are out in front for you to see and choose when you order.
Fast Eddie 48
10-18-06, 08:02
Hi SZexpat,
I was wondering if I interpreted your directions correctly. Please take a look at the attached map.
thanks,
minkfan
to minkfan
I spend about 30 min last night check out this place not far from dongmen at all , First shop I saw 3 chubby girl older about 24-30 yr old I think this place
suck waste of time , Sha Tsui even on the decline have 10 time more girls and
5 time better Quality .
I take one back to my hotel last night from Sha Tsui she is from Chongqing very GFE I give her a solid 7 and 8 in performance no rush and I got her for all night ,Have breakfast with her this morning and on my way to HKIA back home today after a long trip in China at a good ending.
fast eddie 48
Hi all,
If it was up to me, all BBS's should only stock gals like this:
http://******.com/big5/view_id-15675.html
On a more serious note, is there anywhere in Macau, SZ, ZH, CP where one can pay for play like that?
thanks
Old Mean Dog
10-18-06, 15:19
to minkfan
I spend about 30 min last night check out this place not far from dongmen at all , First shop I saw 3 chubby girl older about 24-30 yr old I think this place
suck waste of time , Sha Tsui even on the decline have 10 time more girls and
5 time better Quality .
I take one back to my hotel last night from Sha Tsui she is from Chongqing very GFE I give her a solid 7 and 8 in performance no rush and I got her for all night ,Have breakfast with her this morning and on my way to HKIA back home today after a long trip in China at a good ending.
fast eddie 48You must have been in the wrong place because the quality and quantity was outstanding last Saturday night. JUSCO BBS has gone way down with just a few shops stocking many fat girls, but the Seibu BBS's had at least 20 shops open with 6+ girls in each one.
Hi fellow mongers,
Last time in SZ, my friend brought me to a location where both sides of the street was filled with seafood restaurants. Does anyone know the specific location of the area? I remember that it was in Lowu close to the Dongmen shopping area.
Thanks,
MinkfanThe street name LOK YUEN ROAD about 4 block east from east gate, also a nice place look for young pussy, good luck.
FurryFriend
10-19-06, 12:46
I'll be in Hong Kong next month and will be making my first forey into Shenzhen. I've also heard of stories about Shenzhen being unsafe and that people shouldn't travel alone. Unfortunately, I don't have a buddy to go with. I'm a Chinese guy though who speaks passable Cantonese...not sure if this matters. Are there safety protocols I should be aware of at these BBSs? THanks!
I've also heard of stories about Shenzhen being unsafe and that people shouldn't travel alone. Are there safety protocols I should be aware of at these BBSs? THanks!Hi FF,
SZN, in my opinion, is just like any large city. By in large, it is safe during the day, public areas, in/near major hotels, etc. I've been to JUSCO and Diwang BBS by myself, several time later in the evening, and still felt pretty safe. I went to ShaTsui with several people, and also seemed extremely safe. Now, the storys abound about crime, pickpocketing, scams, but you try to be as careful as you can, and if you're unlucky (which could happen anywhere), something could happen. There are many safety protocols, but the main one I've considered is to give up the small amount of cash you are carrying and not get hurt or worse. I know I've seen many safety discussions in various threads, but here is one I had the reference to.
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=481323&postcount=34
Cheers,
M
PS- I've heard being from HK can actually make you more of a target? Not sure of that reasoning.
Is there a Sauna with Red Rope treatment in Shenzhen?
November 3rd till 5th I will be in Shenzhen, if anybody wants to hook up for mongering drop me a pm.
Thanks
I've also heard of stories about Shenzhen being unsafe and that people shouldn't travel alone. Unfortunately, I don't have a buddy to go with. I'm a Chinese guy though who speaks passable Cantonese...not sure if this matters. Are there safety protocols I should be aware of at these BBSs? THanks!
Be careful of pickpockets near LoWu area and on public transportion. The thiefs are very good with their skills. I also stay away with going up to apartments with mama on the street since you are by yourself. BBS with a store front is better.
mpfslover
Hi fellas of SZ,
I just arrived at SZ and local time is 4. 15 P.M. I am first time here and I need a good action schedule of one of you experts cause I leave tomorrow noon to Hong Kong. I would like to see a nice BBS and later maybe a good full service massage. At the end of the day I would like to pick up something for over night in my hotel. Please give me your instructions and also tell me what price the several things would have, cause I do not want to get ripped off. ; -). I hope somebody can help me.
OldAsiaHand
10-20-06, 11:55
FurryFriend:
I've been all over SZ alone day and night, up and down dark alleys hunting for BBS opportunities. Having said that, I was also pickpocketed in LuoHu a few years back. I am a laowai and probably less of a target though.
Don't follow SW/mamas on the street to a place is very good advise. I cannot tell you how many times I've heard about extortion scams that started this way.
As I've said before, never carry any more money than you need to monger, no watches, jewelry, expensive mobile phone, etc.
I reckon Sha Tsui and the BBS areas posted on this thread are reasonably safe, however, it is best to go in, do your business and split, rather than hang around the areas alone for too long.
Just my POV.
OAH
I'll be in Hong Kong next month and will be making my first forey into Shenzhen. I've also heard of stories about Shenzhen being unsafe and that people shouldn't travel alone. Unfortunately, I don't have a buddy to go with. I'm a Chinese guy though who speaks passable Cantonese...not sure if this matters. Are there safety protocols I should be aware of at these BBSs? THanks!
He's a fairly big guy and I reckon most Chinese won't wanna mess with him. Especially the fact that he's laowai. No criminal wants to deal with the police when the police must get involved with crime against a foreigner.
However, if you're a small Asian fellow, I would be more careful in mongering alone.
OAH's advise is pretty much what you need to know if you must go it alone.
Bill
FurryFriend:
I've been all over SZ alone day and night, up and down dark alleys hunting for BBS opportunities. Having said that, I was also pickpocketed in LuoHu a few years back. I am a laowai and probably less of a target though.
Don't follow SW/mamas on the street to a place is very good advise. I cannot tell you how many times I've heard about extortion scams that started this way.
As I've said before, never carry any more money than you need to monger, no watches, jewelry, expensive mobile phone, etc.
I reckon Sha Tsui and the BBS areas posted on this thread are reasonably safe, however, it is best to go in, do your business and split, rather than hang around the areas alone for too long.
Just my POV.
OAH
Ace Gallant
10-20-06, 19:17
He's a fairly big guy and I reckon most Chinese won't wanna mess with him. Especially the fact that he's laowai. No criminal wants to deal with the police when the police must get involved with crime against a foreigner.
However, if you're a small Asian fellow, I would be more careful in mongering alone.
OAH's advise is pretty much what you need to know if you must go it alone.
Bill
Wolfs hunt in pack because it is much safer to do so.
When in a foreign land, stay together.
When in an unknown territory, do not sway away from the group.
When in doubts do not try to be hero.
Regardless of whether you are big or small, the bullet and knife still cuts through.
Happy hunting and stay safe.
AG
I am in Shenzhen. Last week somebody tried to pick pocket me. He used kind of thin tongs to insert in my side pocket. When I felt it I suddenly turned around to see the tongs. I yelled at him and he ran away.
After this incident I am very watchfull when somebody is walking very close to me. I always carry few hundred RMB only in my pocket. I do not carry my wallet. Also be careful when walkling with a girl. You tend to focus on the girl rather than surroundings.
Hi all,
If it was up to me, all BBS's should only stock gals like this:
http://******.com/big5/view_id-15675.html
On a more serious note, is there anywhere in Macau, SZ, ZH, CP where one can pay for play like that?
thanks
Girls like her.... fairly common in China. The photos have been slightly retouched and overexposed to make her look lighter. She's also wearing heavy makeup to smooth out her skin. I would rate her maybe a 6-7. Any large KTV in SZ or DG will have many girls with her kind of looks. Sha Zui too. BTW, if that girl in the pic is really 5'7", she's got a freakishly disproportionately large head.
HornyAsianDawg
10-21-06, 18:40
Hi fellas of SZ,
I just arrived at SZ and local time is 4. 15 P.M. I am first time here and I need a good action schedule of one of you experts cause I leave tomorrow noon to Hong Kong. I would like to see a nice BBS and later maybe a good full service massage. At the end of the day I would like to pick up something for over night in my hotel. Please give me your instructions and also tell me what price the several things would have, cause I do not want to get ripped off. ; -). I hope somebody can help me.
Why don't you scroll down a few pages and actually read the forum. There is plenty of information here. Don't come in here with your first post asking for help, since it is clear you didn't even bother to scroll down past the first post.
tell me what price the several things would have, cause I do not want to get ripped off. ; -). I hope somebody can help me.
If you go to BBS, you can expect to pay 50,000RMB for a quickie in a dingie room.
If you go to a naughty massage place, you can expect to pay around 150,000RMB in a dingy massage room.
If you want LT.... oh man... you better take out a 2nd mortgage on your house.... some girls ask for a million or more....
Now you know why China is the fastest growing major economy in the world...
I'll be in Hong Kong next month and will be making my first forey into Shenzhen. I've also heard of stories about Shenzhen being unsafe and that people shouldn't travel alone. Unfortunately, I don't have a buddy to go with. I'm a Chinese guy though who speaks passable Cantonese...not sure if this matters. Are there safety protocols I should be aware of at these BBSs? THanks!
I need a side kick since I alone also. I might be in Shenzhen around Oct 29 to Nov 8. I PM you my number. Where are you from? I can show you around. Will be staying in the Futian Area.
Hi fellas of SZ,
I just arrived at SZ and local time is 4. 15 P.M. I am first time here and I need a good action schedule of one of you experts cause I leave tomorrow noon to Hong Kong. I would like to see a nice BBS and later maybe a good full service massage. At the end of the day I would like to pick up something for over night in my hotel. Please give me your instructions and also tell me what price the several things would have, cause I do not want to get ripped off. ; -). I hope somebody can help me.Actually Escada, what Moody means is that you need to pay the girls 1000 yuan, and you need to pay the remaining 49,000 yuan, and 149,000 yuan, respectively for BBS and naughty massage, TO ME. Please prepare the amounts in non-sequential, unmarked Hong Kong dollars (U.S. dollars accepted, max denomination $20), wrap it up in a black plastic bag, and leave it with the ticket counter at LoWu train station. I gurantee that you are not getting ripped off and you're getting the best price in SZ.
Also, I think Moody is trying to rip you off with his million yuan LT. I can get LT for you for a mere 700,000 yuans. Again, 5,000 yuan to the girl, and the remain 650,000 yuans in HKD or US$..so on and so forth. Again, this is the best price you'll find in SZ and you're not getting ripped off at all. I do this all the time for helpless people who don't have the time to read the forums they post in, yet want to have a good time. I'll send the girl to your hotel room as soon as I receive your payment, so please include your hotel address in the black plastic bag.
Look forward to doing business with you, and hope you enjoy Shenzhen!
KS
IlleagleFun
10-22-06, 16:37
wow...
I can't believe it, I'm back in Shenzhen after a long hiatus. States aint got nothin like Shenahen, certainly price wise that's for sure.
I used to post regularly here, but time has passed us by, the forum has changed and ALL my old posts are gone. I just returned and have slowly been getting back into the action.
Nothing good to report on just yet, but I wanted to make a quick comment because looking back over the past posts has surprised me with so much over emphasis on the supposed danger of Shenzhen.
I certainly do not wish to bag on all those who have given proper warning, as all the points they make are valid, including Bill Lee's most recent post.
However, I would just like to second Old Asia Hand's account of Shenzhen. In fact, I'd like to say hello to OAH, long time no talk. Lost all your contact info, so maybe we can hook back up through this forum.
I too, maybe foolishly, have walked around every dark back alley way, any time of night, any part of town, and NEVER once had a problem or even the suspicion of a problem. I'm no spring chicken, so I take all precautions, some of which were mentioned by OAH. I'm very aware of my surroundings and I make sure I always know where I am and how to get out.
Having said that, I think the danger has been over emphasized here. Take your precautions, but don't even let it come close to stopping you from your rounds if you happen to be by yourself.
The biggest precaution, as mentioned by OAH, is dont follow a girl into a room, though I must say, I have become familiar and comfortable enough with the Shekou area to follow a girl into a room several times.
If memory serves me correctly, I remember the Luohu area was a bit rougher and dangerous than the rest. Having come to know the city, I have found enough places outside of Luohu to get the job done and many of these places can be learned about here on this forum.
I will be sure to report if anything ever goes bad and will be sure to report on the MANY things that go well.
Cloud Palms
10-22-06, 16:54
Hey guys,
Totally new to this forum and will be even newer to SZ. I'm Chinese American from New York. Will be staying in Futian and Shekou.
I'm looking for some guys on this board to explore with, watch each others backs but mostly hang out, get girls and have a blast. Weelock, lmk if you plan on staying longer in SZ.
Thanks.
IlleagleFun
10-22-06, 17:27
Hi SZexpat,
Can you share some more detail about the location of the Seibu BBS's?
minkfan
Is it just me, or have any of you laowei been having a problem with attitude of the girls in this location. I too frequented this area when I first arrived in Shenzhen 3 years ago and I would say some of my finest, if not the finest ( a tall, firm breasted girl with pink underwear, with a piggy face over her pussy and a pig's tail over her ass, mmmmm) , BBS experiences were in this area.
However, I left and have returned, only to see them not interested what so ever. I mean, to me, the feeling was deep and strong. I remeber them dragging me into places years ago. Now they dont even give you the time of day.
My suspicion, but I have nothing to base it on, is that its only for laowei, as I have seen a different attitude towards others.
Just want to get a report on what others have experienced here. I find the choices numerous and rather to my liking, but I gotta have some decent response and this place is nothing like it was before.
Cloud Palms
10-22-06, 17:34
Hey guys,
Totally new to this forum and even newer to SZ. I'm ABC from NYC.
I'm looking for some dudes to explore, watch each others backs and have a great time during mid Nov.
Weelock let me know if you do intend on staying longer.
Thanks.
IlleagleFun
10-22-06, 17:37
Following on my query about Seibu, I have found much better luck, though more expensive, with the SW scene just south of the Panglin Hotle(across the street along Dongmen Lu along the west side of the street).
I found them to be much more spirited, more willing to LT and a good opportunity for you to check the merchandise out before you give it a ride. My only problem with it was that it could be rather spotty at times. You could not always depend on a good selection, sometimes almost none at all. Also, the window of opportunity is rather narrow. The peak time being from 9PM to 11PM. Before that or after that, things got pretty tough, depending on the day of the week.
i have not been by jusco in a long time, so i am not sure of the quality or quantity right now, but here things tend to go in and out of favor. so while jusco might be a bit slow now, it might be back to full speed in 2 or 3 months. just a few weeks ago, there were posts that shazui was dead, but i went there on sunday and it was full speed with very good selection. i went to my regular provider and had a very good time as usual. the ktv are a bit down there, but they just opened a new one, it is just typical out with the old, in with the new.
you must have been in the wrong place because the quality and quantity was outstanding last saturday night. jusco bbs has gone way down with just a few shops stocking many fat girls, but the seibu bbs's had at least 20 shops open with 6+ girls in each one.
Thomas Jefferson
10-24-06, 13:32
Hello,
Sorry to anwer sooo late, but was on travelling in hong kong and macao (reports will follow).
The metropark hotel is located:
2088 Dongmen Road
tel. +86-755-82318388
The Dongmen barbershop area is also just a few minutes walk away.
Dongmen shopping area also nearby.
Greetings,
Thomas Jefferson
P.S. I am now working the in the "oral" office, not the oval office ;-)
Mr. Jefferson:
I did a search of the forum, but could not find the address of the Metropark Hotel. Could you please share the city and street address if you could?
By the way, that was some good work that you did in the ovum office (or is it oval office? I always get the two mised up). That declaration thingy with the bit about the four score and blah blah blah really kicked ass!
Raz
IlleagleFun
10-24-06, 15:06
Just a heads up for everybody.
A new Jusco is about to open in the new shopping center (forgot the name) recently finished atop the subway station Gongwu gongyuan just south of Shennan Lu. Not really close to any mongering spots (that I'm aware of), but to avoid possibe confusion and mix ups, we might have to start saying Old Jusco or Jusco East for the mongering spot.
Master Monger
10-24-06, 16:48
It has been forever since I have posted, I have been in SZ about 8 months and I have been with about 160 girls broken down into 20+ freebies, 30+ they paid me, and the rest, I paid them. I have paid as little as 50 yuan, and at most 300 yuan for short time. Average price I have paid is about 150 or less. The train station is 100 and they will deliver, the bbs are 130 onsite or 150 to deliver. LT or 5-10 hours as little as 200 yuan and at very most 500 yuan with an average of about 400 yuan or a little less. Usually I have them deliver because I go there first and write down the names of all the girls I like at each place. My service for the most part has been amazing, although I do speak Chinese and I guarantee that makes a huge difference. I too have run into bad attitudes and small problems but I think it is because us foreigners want the girlfriend experience and most Chinese guys just want to cum in two to fifteen minutes and go. I would say this has caused about 25% of the girls to complain about my requests for DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and slow romantic lovemaking. Also I have, sometimes with a fair protest, managed to photograph about 80% of the girls who have pleasured me. Only 80% because I usually don't even try to photo the girls who pay me unless they are just amazing and some girls just win the protest.
A tip that I can give to others is: The best way to get what you want is act like it is obvious and they must do it.
When a girl complains about providing a service, I usually just laugh it off like she is kidding and continue doing it. If they see weakness they will take advantage of it.
Most girls I have been with still like me and would jump at the chance to come back to my place and play, but I also give them little gifts, like lip gloss or perfume, BUT NEVER MONEY!
The mommy can't say give this girl 150 yuan plus a bottle of perfume but they surely will try to get 200 yuan out of you if you gave the last girl a 50 yuan tip. NEVER TIP CASH!! unless you want to give 5 yuan so she can take a bike back. Even if you give her 16 yuan for a taxi she will still take the bike for 5 yuan or even less.
It is hard to shake the bad experiences, but to minimize them try to get the girl to smile and be friendly before you pick her. She could be having a bad day or be in a bad mood. Attitude is more important than looks unless you're just going for the pics, but you may not get them...
Anyway good luck and have fun....
Master Monger
Anyone needing help or advice you can PM me.
Blue Swatch
10-24-06, 17:53
Hi all,
I will be going to SZ over this weekend and will be staying at a hotel near LuoHu train station. I have read many pages and end up with some conclusions. As it is my 1st time there I hope anyone can help clarify.
1. From where I am staying and the train station is, the nearest BBS is the pink apartments near Shangrila and I should not be paying more than 150 RMB right?
2. Being the 1st time there, is it safe to travel alone to Tsa Tsui alone? (I speak simple chinese btw, but im not a local) And how much will be the cab ride there? Do i bargain and agree on the cab prices? Or i follow the meter in the cab?
3. If I were to bring a girl back for overnight, it will typically cost 300 to 500RMB and they will leave early in the morning right (ie 7 to 8am) ? And that is also excluding the taxi ride that I have to pay on top of the 300 to 500RMB?
Pardon my questions as im going to SZ in a matter of days and I only have 1 night to spend there and I want to make the best of my time there before jetting off again the next morning. Thanks in advance for all the kind souls!
Hi all,
I will be going to SZ over this weekend and will be staying at a hotel near LuoHu train station. I have read many pages and end up with some conclusions. As it is my 1st time there I hope anyone can help clarify.
1. From where I am staying and the train station is, the nearest BBS is the pink apartments near Shangrila and I should not be paying more than 150 RMB right?
Ok, since you made the effort to actually read the forum and ask reasonable questions, I'll help ya out. The closest place to the Shang is probably in the set of apartments near the McDonald's. You can get ST for 100-150. 150RMB is the most you should pay.
2. Being the 1st time there, is it safe to travel alone to Tsa Tsui alone? (I speak simple chinese btw, but im not a local) And how much will be the cab ride there? Do i bargain and agree on the cab prices? Or i follow the meter in the cab?
Unless you take gypsy cabs or you're going really out of the city, there's usually no bargaining for cab fares. Ride to Shazui from the train station should be about 50-60 or so and take about 30 minutes. If you're of Asian persuasion, you shouldn't have any problems in Shazui.
3. If I were to bring a girl back for overnight, it will typically cost 300 to 500RMB and they will leave early in the morning right (ie 7 to 8am) ? And that is also excluding the taxi ride that I have to pay on top of the 300 to 500RMB?
A lot depends on the kind of girl you bring back. I'm assuming that you're talking about girls from the BBS. Price will vary from 300-600 depending on the time of night you get her and the particular mommy or establishment. The time the girl leaves after LT will depend on the girl. Some will want to leave as soon as they wake up in the morning, some will want to stay longer. As for cab fare, if you get the girl from far away, like Shazui, you'll be expected to pay cab fare.
Pardon my questions as im going to SZ in a matter of days and I only have 1 night to spend there and I want to make the best of my time there before jetting off again the next morning. Thanks in advance for all the kind souls!
If you're gonna be there one night, you gotta make up your mind where you want to go. Travelling around the city and walking up and down all the alleys will take time, especially if you're thinking of going all the way to Shazui.
Blue swatch,
When will you be there?
I'm happy to show you around if you want.
Fast Eddie 48
10-24-06, 21:47
Hi all,
I will be going to SZ over this weekend and will be staying at a hotel near LuoHu train station. I have read many pages and end up with some conclusions. As it is my 1st time there I hope anyone can help clarify.
1. From where I am staying and the train station is, the nearest BBS is the pink apartments near Shangrila and I should not be paying more than 150 RMB right?
2. Being the 1st time there, is it safe to travel alone to Tsa Tsui alone? (I speak simple chinese btw, but im not a local) And how much will be the cab ride there? Do i bargain and agree on the cab prices? Or i follow the meter in the cab?
3. If I were to bring a girl back for overnight, it will typically cost 300 to 500RMB and they will leave early in the morning right (ie 7 to 8am) ? And that is also excluding the taxi ride that I have to pay on top of the 300 to 500RMB?
Pardon my questions as im going to SZ in a matter of days and I only have 1 night to spend there and I want to make the best of my time there before jetting off again the next morning. Thanks in advance for all the kind souls!
to blue swatch
If you are only going to be in shenzhen for one night just go to Las Vegas ktv
an enjoy yourself ,Life is too short spend some money and have a great time.
fast eddie 48
Blue Swatch
10-25-06, 00:14
Blue swatch,
When will you be there?
I'm happy to show you around if you want.Thanks for all the replies everyone have given. Deeply appreciated! I guess thats gives me the headups on roughly everything i need to know.
Well i will only be there this coming saturday evening arund 5pm and will be flying off on sunday morning. So it is just 1 saturday evening for all the fun. Damn, im sure im going to miss out on a lot over there :( Hi Pazusu, will you still be in SZ this weekend? Well if there is someone who is willing to show me around, I don't think I can ask for anything more. Thanks again for your kindness and everyone again.
I only found this forum last nite. And yes i will be contributing in anyway i can after this trip to this forum too. Cheers!
Blue Swatch
10-25-06, 00:22
to blue swatch
If you are only going to be in shenzhen for one night just go to Las Vegas ktv
an enjoy yourself ,Life is too short spend some money and have a great time.
Fast eddie 48Hi Eddie, thanks for your reply. Is Las Vegas KTV near to the Luohu train station too? Also, it is appropriate to go to the KTV alone, and also I don't really drink too. But yea im not there for the drinks, im there for action! Haha
Hey guys,
Totally new to this forum and even newer to SZ. I'm ABC from NYC.
I'm looking for some dudes to explore, watch each others backs and have a great time during mid Nov.
Weelock let me know if you do intend on staying longer.
Thanks.
I am from NYC but will not be in town that week. Sorry I missed your visit.
LA
...Is Las Vegas KTV near to the Luohu train station too? Also, it is appropriate to go to the KTV alone, and also I don't really drink too. But yea im not there for the drinks, im there for action! Haha
Las Vegas is about 15-20 minute cab ride depending on traffic. You ask to go to Lian He Guang Chang. You can go to Las Vegas alone. They have a large lounge area that even has a show, although I haven't seen the show in a while so I can't really vouch for how good it is. Vegas is 1500 for LT, but you have to tell the mommy beforehand that you plan to take the girl back with you. There are a lot of girls there who will just sit with you, but not go back to your hotel.
Ace Gallant
10-25-06, 11:31
Here I am on the Guangshen Highway, with OAH, Wadman and Mr. B on the way to Zhuhai to meet Johnnykon, Weelock, Reader123; oh man... this is going to be fun...!
Report in later!
AG
Hi Moody,
Is there a disadvantage in terms of selection if one selects the lounge option as opposed to opening a room? For example, would the mamas show you the duds in the lounge area but reserve the best girls to show customers who open up the rooms?
I'd figure since the KTV does not make much money off customers who sit in the lounge, they do not have an incentive to show them the best selection.
thanks,
minkfan
Blue Swatch
10-25-06, 12:04
Las Vegas is about 15-20 minute cab ride depending on traffic. You ask to go to Lian He Guang Chang. You can go to Las Vegas alone. They have a large lounge area that even has a show, although I haven't seen the show in a while so I can't really vouch for how good it is. Vegas is 1500 for LT, but you have to tell the mommy beforehand that you plan to take the girl back with you. There are a lot of girls there who will just sit with you, but not go back to your hotel.Thanks again for the advise. I will try and fit something in my program with my limited 1 evening i have in shenzhen, but yes I will definitely be back for more when im done with my official business here!
Fast Eddie 48
10-25-06, 17:04
Hi Eddie, thanks for your reply. Is Las Vegas KTV near to the Luohu train station too? Also, it is appropriate to go to the KTV alone, and also I don't really drink too. But yea im not there for the drinks, im there for action! Haha
to blue swatch
Yes you can go there alone and I don't drink either ,Las vegas have the some of the hottest model in southern china but is very expensive LT will cost 1000
rmb and up , you can take a taxi from the lowu border is 15 min but is very close to huanggang border .
fast eddie 48
Hi Moody,
Is there a disadvantage in terms of selection if one selects the lounge option as opposed to opening a room? For example, would the mamas show you the duds in the lounge area but reserve the best girls to show customers who open up the rooms?
I'd figure since the KTV does not make much money off customers who sit in the lounge, they do not have an incentive to show them the best selection.
thanks,
minkfan
This disadvantage in sitting in the lounge is that they usually bring fewer girls per line up. If you're by yourself, they'll usually bring 3-4 at a time. If you're in a room with 5 other guys, they'll bring in 20 or more at a time. As for the mommies reserving the best girls... nah. The best girls usually get reserved ahead of time by the customers.
As for how much money the KTV makes... the mommies don't care. They make all their money off tips and kickbacks from the girls. From what I gather, aside from the owners, it's the mommies who make the big money at KTV.
Regardless, the lounge must make a lot of money for the hotel, or else they wouldn't bother to even have it, let alone hire live entertainment for it.
Blue Swatch
10-26-06, 08:24
Thanks all for the replies. I will try and see if I have the time to pop down las vegas or somewhere near me if I can't go too far.
Nevertheless, if anyone is free on saturday evening near Luohu, do let me know. Let me go read up more before I leave and see if i have missed out anything.
Blue Swatch
10-26-06, 15:02
Hi Guys,
I found a detailed map on Shenzhen that you can zoom in on any area to give you a good idea on where the roads are etc.
The only drawback is it is in Chinese. But i guess it is still worth a look or two for those interested. Here you go.
http://www.sz800.com/szmap/
Ez Going One
10-27-06, 03:04
I will be staying at the Crown Plaza Shenzhen in less than 2 weeks for 2 nights. This is my first trip to Asia in nearly 20 years. Can anyone tell me what action, if any, is near the hotel? Is it a girl friendly hotel? I am looking for an outcall massage to the hotel and possible overnight. Thanks in advance for the help.
Ez
Hi Moody,
Is there a disadvantage in terms of selection if one selects the lounge option as opposed to opening a room? For example, would the mamas show you the duds in the lounge area but reserve the best girls to show customers who open up the rooms?
I'd figure since the KTV does not make much money off customers who sit in the lounge, they do not have an incentive to show them the best selection.
thanks,
minkfan
I called up a girl I know who previously worked at Las Vegas and asked her exactly how the mommy chooses which girls are presented first, basically, which ones she pushes on customers. I gotta admit, it's pretty smart, and I hadn't considered it, but now that I think about it, it's obvious.
The mommy pushes the girls who are willing to go back with you. The girls who are presented later are all girls who are either having their periods or are not willing to go back with you. Since the mommy gets 200RMB kickback each time a girl goes out, she has a huge incentive to push those girls first. Just remember, in China, it's always about the money.
Moody,
Thank you for the info on KTV's. About mommies reserving their best girls, I guess like anywhere else, being a regular customer has it's perks.
One of my friends showed me some pics of KTV girls that one of his other friend had during a business trip. They looked absolutely gorgeous. He asked me if I saw anything like that in China. I replied no. He asked why not. I said because unlike your friend, I don't have a Lamborghini in China.
My friend then commented since it takes $150usd to do a beautiful Korean here in the States, shouldn't 150usd get you more beauty for the buck. I replied it depends on your luck. You're a tourist on limited budget and limited time, and you are competing against businessmen with large expense accounts, hongkies that go every weekend, Singaporeans that visit once every month.
Uuuugh, KTV is a hard game to win.
minkfan
OldAsiaHand
10-27-06, 10:47
Blue Swatch:
It depends on what you want and how much you want to spend. You can have 10 girls in Sha Tsui ST for what you pay for one LT in Las Vegas. I often stay at the Grand Holiday Hotel where Las Vegas is located and sometimes pop my head in to take a look at the girls running around. Doing them is too pricey for me! I must say that what I have seen most recently (a month or so ago) are not the 9+ stunners that used to be there. Having said that, KTV girls can move around. Moody may have been there more recently or recommend a better option for KTV girls.
IMHO, I would not put all my eggs in one basket. Sha Tsui is worth a visit just because of the quality/quantity/price proposition. The mamas in the LuoHu apartments just don't have the numbers and/or quality in comparison.
Maybe the BBS area across from the Panglin if you insist to stay in LuoHu.
I would get a couple of pops in early in Sha Tsui or other BBS, and then, if money is not an object, hit a KTV later for LT.
Just my POV.
OAH
Thanks all for the replies. I will try and see if I have the time to pop down las vegas or somewhere near me if I can't go too far.
Nevertheless, if anyone is free on saturday evening near Luohu, do let me know. Let me go read up more before I leave and see if i have missed out anything.
OldAsiaHand
10-27-06, 10:49
30+ they paid me
Master Monger,
Please tell us more about this. Thanks.
OAH
Blue Swatch
10-27-06, 11:45
Sorry guys, been quick info here as im leaving early tmr morning for SZ.
How is the weather there now? Is it very cold and below 15 degrees most of the time? Or the weather is still not too cold now? I amdeciding which of my jacket to bring there now. Thanks!
Master Monger,
Please tell us more about this. Thanks.
OAHIn my mongering experience, it's only been about 5-6, give or take, that have paid me. All pros (KTV, BBS, etc), because they thought I was a poor student. Not necessarily paying me for the deed per se, but giving me some "spending cash."
Some have actually looked for jobs for me, even though I actually had a pretty well-paying job at the time. I felt pretty bad when taking the money (and of course I refused it profusely at the time, but they insisted), and I eventually spent it on them, going to dinners/paying for motels, etc.
I get a pretty good laugh out it when looking back, but 30+ does seem like a lot.
-KS
Blue Swatch
10-27-06, 12:33
Blue Swatch:
It depends on what you want and how much you want to spend. You can have 10 girls in Sha Tsui ST for what you pay for one LT in Las Vegas. I often stay at the Grand Holiday Hotel where Las Vegas is located and sometimes pop my head in to take a look at the girls running around. Doing them is too pricey for me! I must say that what I have seen most recently (a month or so ago) are not the 9+ stunners that used to be there. Having said that, KTV girls can move around. Moody may have been there more recently or recommend a better option for KTV girls.
IMHO, I would not put all my eggs in one basket. Sha Tsui is worth a visit just because of the quality/quantity/price proposition. The mamas in the LuoHu apartments just don't have the numbers and/or quality in comparison.
Maybe the BBS area across from the Panglin if you insist to stay in LuoHu.
I would get a couple of pops in early in Sha Tsui or other BBS, and then, if money is not an object, hit a KTV later for LT.
Just my POV.
OAHThanks for your kind advise. Guess I will pop by sha ysui and/or Jusco before hitting the KTV at nite if time permits. Will be off from where i em early tomorrow morning at 6am and should reach SZ at 6pm tmr.
Hopefully I can come back with a few reports and contribute accordingly.
Ace Gallant
10-27-06, 13:44
Master Monger,
Please tell us more about this. Thanks.
OAH
Come on...OAH... we are both ugly old man... while he must be a great handsome looking guy with great body and with lots of charms!
AG
I must say that what I have seen most recently (a month or so ago) are not the 9+ stunners that used to be there. Having said that, KTV girls can move around. Moody may have been there more recently or recommend a better option for KTV girls.
I have to agree with your assessment. Las Vegas really hasn't been top drawer for almost a year now... Don't get me wrong, they still have plenty of pretty girls, it's just that the ratio seems a bit lower than before.
Lately, I would say the two best places for lookers are the Hilton and Golden Times. Century Plaza Hotel is right up there too. All three are pretty pricey. Girls will ask for anywhere between 1500-3500 for overnight.
Out of the 3 places, I would say I've had the most fun at Golden Times. A lot of girls at Xindu tend to be of the ice princess type. Hilton girls are usually high and sometimes a bit erratic. I hear the Landmark also has excellent talent.
At any of the big places in Shenzhen, they'll have more model type girls (tall slim girls) than just about any place in Dongguan (with the possible exception of the Sheraton in Houjie). Hilton especially. The thing is though, Dongguan KTV tends to be more fun. Girls tend to be a bit wilder and more willing to get drunk and cut loose which I like.
Well, what can I say? Thank you to those that provided details on the location of BBS behind Seibu. When I check into the hotel, I realised that I am just stayiny with 3 minutes walking to this heavenly place. The hotel is SunIsland Holiday Hotel. Just a 4*( low end) standard but cheap, and had a early dinner and went hunting.
I guess it is good to be early as I found out that the girsl are very friendly. I had a girl from Fujian, very sweet lady, provides BBBJ and was very gf like.
Anyway, I got 2 girls for tonight, the other girl from Guangxi and both are at RMB150 each. During supper, had a chat with the lady captain and she fixed me up with a 18 year old Szechuan girl who works as a waitress, slim about 5'5" and sweet for RMB400 for LT for tomorrow night as I am totally out of ammo now. Man, how I wish I am in my 20's loaded like an M16 instead of feeling like an old shotgun that needs to reload after every shot!! Guess I will try to get some photos then..hoho. Wish me luck!!
I guess this place has got lots of very nice 'target' and I will be going back there everytime I am in Shenzhen.
Once again, thank you for all the information...first night and I am enjoying it tons!!
Blue Swatch
10-30-06, 13:35
Am back from my trip form SZ. Due to some delays I am only able to find a few hours in the night to do what I want.
Nevertheless I took a cab ride less than 5 mins away to Jusco. Was walking up and down, left and right to look for the correct alleys but can't find it as im a free member and hence can't see any photos of the place you guys attached.
The only thing I remember was there was a 7-11. So i searched and finally found it after 30mins of walking around. And when i found 7-11 and looked in, Bingo! Walked in after buying a drink, and was literally pulled everywhere by the mummies asking me to sit and look and take their girls. Walked 2 rounds with a lot of difficulties since the girls and mummies are everywhere.
Finally settled for a Hunan girl, 22 call Wang Li with ample big boobs, super good attitude girl who keep flashing her megawatt smile that will melt the coldest heart. She brought me to an apartment, showered me, and then herself and then the action begins.
Overall the stats are as follows:
Name: Wang Li
Age: 22
Face: 8
Body: 7.5
Boobs: 8.5, large C
Attitude: 9
Highly recommended!
She can be found within the 1st 3 shops after you turn in beside the 7-11 on the left side. I took a pic of her but not sure how to upload it. In anycase anyone want to call her, her number is 132-4473-3312.
Anyway after that, went for dinner at the western food joint opposite Jusco at the 2nd level (food sucks btw) and then head back in for a hokkien massage by those uniform girl. Her attitude was good as well, but nothing to shout about. Ok thats about it, hope I didnt fare too badly as a newbie here on my 1st Field Report. I have no time to do anything else after that as it was pretty late and returned back to my hotel. Cheers!
Old Mean Dog
10-30-06, 14:46
I went with a buddy over to the Seibu BBS's today around 5 pm. Most of the shops were not open yet, but we did checkout about 50 girls. I selected a tiny litte thing from Hunan, she told me she was 18, but I have my doubts. First off, when we got upstairs, I could tell she was very new to this business and appeared to be scared of the big laowai. When we got down to business, I could tell I was her first foreigner, she was dry and would not even let me put a finger in....trying to put my penis in her was like trying to shag a wine bottle. After about 30 minutes of tapping around, I was tired and limp and she was so nonresponsive that I just said to hell with it and gave up. I bitched at the mama, but trying to get a refund or another girl is an exercise in futility.
I should have chosen the one that looked like a pro, that was trying to dirty dance with me in the alley and kept saying "me make love"....grrrrr, total waste of 150 rmb.
I still feel that the quality and quantity is higher than JUSCO and easier to get to than Heaven's Gate.
SZE
Thanks to all the bro who help out earlier.
Some more question need to recomfirm by fellow senior.
I will be staying in Viena Hotel (Fu Hua Road)
1) WalMart is in FuXing Road with the bbs and massage (which is very near , walking distance from the hotel)?
2) How do i get to Jusco fron Viena ?
3) To go to Sha Tsui take bus# 63 from behind Jusco and the last station will be it ?
4) From viena hotel take bus #103 to DongMen Shopping area and bbs area too ?
5) Standard rate for bbs RMB 150 ST and RMB 400 LT as standard guide line for bbs?
Cheers
Kuailan
Master Monger
10-30-06, 23:47
Well, when I first got to SZ I got a couple of girls from Jiabin Lu or as you know it Seibu. I took them LT an on average did them 6-10 times in the night and surprisingly they liked it. When they told the boss, he pulled me aside and asked if I wanted to make some money. At first I was hesitant, but after he assured me that the women were clean and pretty, I said, sure I'll try. My first customer was the 'so called' wife of a very rich Hong Kong businessman who was lonely. I arrived at a beautiful house to be greeted by an even more beautiful 24 year old girl. I was in heaven, I did the deed and got paid 400 yuan or about $50. Later, I realized that the guy watches me bang the girls and when I finish, he comes in after. He is my best customer and I have been with 20 different girls at his place. I have also serviced other 'FuPuo' (rich women) as they are called, for as little as 400-1000 yuan a pop $50-120. I only refused one customer because she smoked too much, they are clean because they are rich so it's cool.
One more thing, I know of an area just as good as ShaZui in Luo Hu it is called Hu Bei Chuan, but I have never seen anyone post about it. It has about 300+ girls at anytime and covers about 2 city blocks with about 30+ bbs's. If you guys are interested I will find out more about its location and post it. I think the main road is WenJia Lu it is just north of Shennan Lu and close to the Luo Hu district government, but, I think any taxi can take you there if you tell them Hu Bei Chuan. The girls there, in my opinion, are the best.
One more thing there is a REALLY nice hotel there called Golden Luohu Hotel and it is only 218 yuan ($27) a night!
Happy Halloween,
Master Monger
Ace Gallant
10-31-06, 05:47
Well, when I first got to SZ I got a couple of girls from Jiabin Lu or as you know it Seibu. I took them LT an on average did them 6-10 times in the night and surprisingly they liked it. When they told the boss, he pulled me aside and asked if I wanted to make some money. At first I was hesitant, but after he assured me that the women were clean and pretty, I said, sure I'll try. My first customer was the 'so called' wife of a very rich Hong Kong businessman who was lonely. I arrived at a beautiful house to be greeted by an even more beautiful 24 year old girl. I was in heaven, I did the deed and got paid 400 yuan or about $50. Later, I realized that the guy watches me bang the girls and when I finish, he comes in after. He is my best customer and I have been with 20 different girls at his place. I have also serviced other 'FuPuo' (rich women) as they are called, for as little as 400-1000 yuan a pop $50-120. I only refused one customer because she smoked too much, they are clean because they are rich so it's cool.
One more thing, I know of an area just as good as ShaZui in Luo Hu it is called Hu Bei Chuan, but I have never seen anyone post about it. It has about 300+ girls at anytime and covers about 2 city blocks with about 30+ bbs's. If you guys are interested I will find out more about its location and post it. I think the main road is WenJia Lu it is just north of Shennan Lu and close to the Luo Hu district government, but, I think any taxi can take you there if you tell them Hu Bei Chuan. The girls there, in my opinion, are the best.
One more thing there is a REALLY nice hotel there called Golden Luohu Hotel and it is only 218 yuan ($27) a night!
Happy Halloween,
Master Monger
Hey MM,
I got a couple of suggestions for you:
1) Move to Shanghai or Beijing
2) Post your services as a duck on websites like Asiaxpat.com
3) Post your services on Adult Friends Finder under cities like Shanghai and Beijing
In these bigger cities there are more "Lonely" wives where their husbands are always away on business.
I bet you can make this into your fulltime job and make lots of money. Some of these women customer may even sponsor you on trips or air ticket to their city just to fuck them!
Oh.. by the way: I had a chat with a member of ISG who is known to be a duck; he also let me have you have these tips:
1) As a duck, you do not cum before your client hit her peak.
2) As a duck, it is not the number of time you can cum or you can do them, it is the number of times you can make them satisfied.
3) As a duck you have to keep your dam self fucking fit.
4) As a duck they do not do well if your customer knows that you are a monger and is mongering around with Pros.
5) To be a successful duck, you better to be good looking (I believe you are) or at least know how to make yourself presentable.
6) To be a successful duck, you must also be able talk and able to charms these clients.
7) Ducks work as an individual they should not get their customer though pimps.
8) You have to be prepared that 90% of the customers are old or fat or ugly or all of the above. If lonely wife is young and pretty, they do not need a duck! They can find some part time lover easily.
9) Finally; change your handle on ISG from Master Monger to something like “The Duck” or “Duckie”
Good luck with your career as a duck! ;)
AG
BTW: Try not to brag about been able to do the girls 8 - 10 times a night because you are openning yourself up to faming, mocking form some members on the board. (Don;t get me wrong; its just a friendly advice... I totally believe that it is possible for anyone to acheve that!)
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