2002-2006 Bali Reports [Archive] - Page 2

1Ball

01-09-05, 23:04

travel me, most people who have travelled extensively throughout SE Asia will tell you indo girls are the best. Better than LOS, and RP. i count myself in that group.

The white girls in Kuta who are looking for action are 90% of the time looking for Indo dick as JC stated. (go back a few months, and read his very comprehensive reports on Bali.). You will also find the white chicks who are hanging around the bars, to be the kind of large, loud, drunk chicks you see in your local pub at home. No need to travel such a distance for that, just go down to your local, and grab one of them there.

If you have never been to Indoneisa, then you have not experienced indo girls. They are beautiful, sweet, and eager to please. I'll take and indo girl over just about any other girl, any day of the week. I have a Balinese GF, who has been with me for 4 years now, and she is the best fuck i have EVER had. When i met her, she was a complete newbie, and she has honed her skills, wanting to please me as much as she can. She is always ready for sex, and puts in 150% every time. JC has met her, not the most beautiful girl in Bali, but she is a complete crazy girl, once you close the bedroom door.

if you are coming to Bali to surf, see some Balinese culture, and have fun, any month is good. Right now it is extremely hot, and it is monsoon season, though it hasn't rained in a weeek (I am in Bali now). The water is warm, and it is not too crowded. July and August are peak months, beaches are packed, it is not so hot and humid..

If you do come, try some of the local girls. If you like them fair skinned exclusively, leave your condoms at home, fuck one of the porkers at your local pub, and come here, in the knowledge you won't get laid during your vacation.

Have fun, and don't bargain too hard for one of those "Bintang" T shirts. They don't make much money here, and an extra $ to them is hopefully not a big deal to you.

Jaimito Cartero

01-10-05, 03:32

I didn't realise they were all Aussie girls. Does any one else go there?

I am English, so would that be a help or a hindrance?

Would you say Kuta is a party place where girls go to get laid, or just to relax, surf etc?

I have heard differant reports. I am just not really in to the Indo's that much.

I saw some French (speaking) and German (speaking) girls on the beach in Nusa Dua. Not sure of real origin. The 20 year old topless one was a heart stopper. Even her 40 something topless mother wasn't bad.

You could go to some of the clubs (Paddy's, etc) and find a lot of girls. Depending on your skill, I'm sure you could find something.

I personally like Bali for the atmosphere and the decent selection of women. For pure beauty and fucking, I'd head straight to Jakarta.

Dorman

01-10-05, 04:49

I've got to agree with 1Ball about Indo girls. I would certainly never question a man's taste in women, if you're not into Indo girls Travelmen well that's entirely a matter for yourself but Jesus you'd be missing out on the chance to screw some of the loveliest creations on God's green earth. If you come here and only try to score with the white girls it would be like going into the most exquisite restaurant offering the finest oriental foods and delicacies and asking for meat and two veg. Like I said it's a matter for you and I wish you good luck with big Shirley and Brenda from Wagga Wagga - just remember to keep the beer flowing they like it best that way.

I should point out however that I'm not a great fan of Bali, the girls there are mainly hardened pro's from the mainland and truth be told I've only had one or two really great experiences there. I would suggest following Bulai69's advice (read his reports he knows of what he speaks) and try a side trip to Jakarta. It's not a tourist destination by any means but if you look in the Jakarta forum you'll see it can be party central at night-time, but not for white girls.

Being English will be absolutely no problem at all. If you're a handsome bounder like Bulai69 it will be to your advantage.

TravelMen

01-10-05, 17:49

Thanks guys.

So in summary, what you are saying is, if I want to get laid by a drunken tourist, the odds are pretty low.

I just thought it might be a party place where the tourists are up for it.

But you say they want the beach, and if any guy, an Indo?

Perhaps I should give it a miss?

Travel to Monger

01-10-05, 22:32

So in summary, what you are saying is, if I want to get laid by a drunken tourist, the odds are pretty low.

I just thought it might be a party place where the tourists are up for it.

TravelMen

I am no expert on Bali, but I think that I can a bit of information on the topic of picking up tourist chicks in Bali.

You are correct in saying that the tourist chicks in Bali are interested in getting drunk and getting laid. A gay friend who recently vacationed in Bali had an interesting observation on the bar scene in Bali. He thought that some of the bars in Kuta were the “gayest” straight bars he has seen in a long time. He was referring to the mosh-pit dance floors full of bikini clad young hard-bodies grinding away. As far as hooking-up with the tourist chicks, I think that the deciding factor will be your age and your physical attractiveness. Much of the bar crowd in Kuta appear to be in their late teens or early twenties. For many of us who have adopted P4P as our primary source of scoring new, young sex partners, the probability of picking up a twenty something chick while dancing with my shirt off is a long shot at best. However, if you are under 30, with a nice tan and six-pack abs, I think that the chances are very good.

I recently spent an interesting evening with a 30 something London chick in Jakarta, we both picked up young Indo partners and spent the night making the rounds of the many excellent party venues in Jakarta. We were both a little past our physical prime, but enjoyed each others company until it was time to head back to our hotels where we parted company. It was the best of both worlds, an intelligent, worldly partner to talk to and a young beautiful girl to get the freak on at the end of the night. I wish I had gotten the London chick’s phone number, I think that I would consider getting married again if I could find a girl like that!

TTM
“I don’t pay them for sex, I pay them to leave when I finish”

Dorman

01-11-05, 05:50

Travel to Monger makes a very valid point about Bali, I raised it in another forum; Bali's going gay.

I noticed it the last time I was there and looking around I realised that that was what was putting me off about the place (I'm not homophobic just not interested).

When I first went to Bali it was a few months after the bomb and the place had a slightly sad air about itself, it was on those early visits that I had the great experiences. It was only in recent trips that something started bugging me that I couldn't put my finger on. You see at first the most hip place I could find was Santa Fe and Club 66 was a bit of a run down concrete bunker with a long muddy trek out to the toilets, that all changed recently.

Now 66 is all funky, and hip to the groove, the new bars that have sprung up are called "Sugar" and "Oxygen" and pump out non-stop hard techno music, one or two of them openly fly the rainbow flag and have drag and ladyboy shows. The openly gay bars are the ones that are busiest in the quiet mid week. When I went to 66 one Sunday night I noticed a distinct lack of girls only slim hipped youths and banci's gyrating on the floor, I asked the barman and he cheerfully explained Sunday night had just been declared gay night. I went to the new club across the way and found the only available girl, who was simply gorgeous, and actually bought her a drink before realising she wasn't what she appeared.

I found the same experience on the beach, it used to be that you went down there at sunset to pick up a chick but I'm afraid you're more likely to get a come hither from a winsome lad rather than a lass.

Don't get me wrong down at Paddy's it's still business as usual with the Aussies in their Bir Bintang tank tops still whooping it up, and at the end of the day I believe in live and let live but I can tell which way the wind's blowing in Bali.

TravelMen

01-11-05, 15:34

Thanks T to M

I had thought of not going, but now you have changed my mind again.
I am 33 in fairly good shape.

Not sure what you mean by gayest straight bars though.

But you are saying, it is a party place with girls out to get laid.
What month did your friend go?

1Ball

01-17-05, 09:15

Had to go to the airport yesterday to pick up a plane tix, on my way out, on the main road from the airport, leading to the by pass, a girl flagged me down on my motorbike. I stopped; she was certainly not pretty, about 20 years old, 2 front teeth missing, and bad acne. She was with a 3 year old in tow.

She offered her services to me, telling me we could go to some small room around the corner. She told me I would have access to all of her orifices, and could CIM, no problem. No condom would be needed.

All this for 50K.

I declined, gave her 50K, and dropped her and her kid off at a warung 100 metres down the road, ordered 2 nasi campur, and 2 waters, paid, and left.

It was all so very sad, and desperate.

Pussy Engineer

01-17-05, 12:12

Well done.

Zos68

02-02-05, 10:28

Well it seems work is flying me to Singapore for "training" at the end of the month. Might take the chance to do another Bali run.

See my posts in the Thailand Pattaya section for the hunting trip I've just got back from.

Pattaya v's Kuta?

Well Thailand wins for the service and sheer numbers of girls. Its generally cleaner (except for air polution) and I never got sick from brushing my teeth with hotel tap water.

Girl quality in Thai varies but if you find a good one they treat you like gods. Unless you have experienced this there is no way to describe it.

The shopping is great at markets and the quality is way better than Indo. The clothes are real (I think, Billabond/quicksilver ect) but about I never saw cheap DVD's. Probably something to do with piracy laws in Thai.

Indo is cheaper and closer to Oz.

The beaches in Pattaya sux and there is little to do except drink and bonk. Sounds great hey, but after 2 weeks of it...... Although having a girl for full time service makes leaving the room not necessary.

I'd say Dusit Resort Pattaya is about equal to Discovery Kartika Plaza Kuta although Pattaya is more formal due to the higher population of Europeans. Personally I like people remembering my name and not treating me like I'm some sort of Guru/superior.

Food quality is about equal by my tastes but your less likely to get sick in Pattaya.

Language: Indo seems heaps easier to learn than Thai. This could be because more people in Bali speak English so easier to translate or because Indo share words with English.

Overall I'd recommend checking out Thailand but personally I prefer Bali.

I've got no plans for my next trip and will probably book into Kartika on a day to day basis. Maybe go up East of Lovina and see if my cutey is still there. If not Jakarta is an option but from reports its really dirty and after Pattaya will probably be a let down. I might go for a few days with my mate in Bali as a guide.

Thanks to Jackson for getting the forum running again.

Jaimito Cartero

02-08-05, 06:53

When I went to 66 one Sunday night I noticed a distinct lack of girls only slim hipped youths and banci's gyrating on the floor, I asked the barman and he cheerfully explained Sunday night had just been declared gay night.

I too went on the Sunday night that had the drag show, but it was interesting and there were still available girls there.

Travel to Monger

02-11-05, 18:37

Not sure what you mean by gayest straight bars though.

But you are saying, it is a party place with girls out to get laid.
What month did your friend go?

TravelMen

Sorry about the lack of clarity in my orginal reply and then the delayed response to clear up the confusion.

The reference that my gay friend made to the Bali bars ("gayest straight bars) wasn't the number of gay men in attendance, but rather the hedonistic atmosphere in the bars. He was referring to the way the young hot bodies of both sexes are practically naked (a good thing) and dancing in a mosh pit type environment (another good thing). Sorry about the misunderstanding.

Btw, he was there in late September and I was there in early September and saw the same general availability of hot white chicks, mostly Aussies.

I recall from your earlier posts that you prefer the white chicks to the Indo girls. The good thing about Bali would be that you can give it your best shot to hook up with a young white chick and if that fails, there are plenty of Indo girls who would be more than willing to accomadate your needs for the evening.

Good luck,
TTM
"I don't pay them for sex, I pay to leave when I finish"

Zos68

02-21-05, 02:14

Carlton

02-21-05, 13:34

Guys,

Back from a quick 2 night visit to Bali and thought I would give you an (long) update on Seminyak – the Bali forum is pretty quiet lately.

Stayed at the newly named Paradise Seminyak Hotel (formerly Saphir) - a little worn down but very nice place and importantly a five minute walk to the 20 or so, Seminyak bars on Jl. Abimanyu.

This time of year the place is in the quite season according to the locals.

Santa Fe was the only bar in Seminyak I tried that had any WL’s. Nice easy going place, outside verandah bar where it is quiet enough to talk, while inside on the dance floor there was a band on Friday and a disco on Saturday. The afternoon bar staff are really friendly and happy to chat. The night team are still nice just a lot busier.

On the Friday I was at a private party at Paparazzi Bar, a fantastic upmarket Legian bar looking over the beach, but usually private apparently, and certainly no local girls there this time. Afterwards next door at Double Six a huge indoor and outdoor bar with the bungy jump attached, the local girls arrived from 11pm onwards, none that were obviously working (quite a few with extensive tattoos though?), but all were there to have a good time. As it was too work-limiting (tough to have to spend a night at a work party in a Bali bar!) I left around midnight as the local girls and guys were streaming in. Looked like a good pick-up location.

I walked back to Santa Fe where I had, had a couple of beers that afternoon. The bar was busy but not packed. It was pretty obvious the 4 or 5 girls at the end of the bar were on the job but they stuck together and took their time in leaving the sanctuary of their friends. Three came over to the table I was sharing with a guy and his local girl and one sat next to me. Not the one I was very interested in, as she had a bit of a gut but spoke good English and so we had a couple of drinks. She did mention that one of the two other girls at my table was a “lady-man” which when you knew that, it was pretty likely (scarily cute looking!). I noticed that the girls were quite open and established good eye contact and smiled while the lady-man always avoided eye contact and was more interested in what was going on around her and did not smile.

Eventually my girl wanted to come back with me, but I was very pissed by then, and as she was not really what I was looking for I knew I would not take her but was interested if she went for the 250,000 to 300,000 range I read about here. Definitely not. She did not want to come down from 500,000 for a long while and she was not going below 450,000 and she was staying where she was and I hit the road.

On the way back to the hotel the other bars – Q Bar, and at least three others in that strip were very much gay bars with lost of obvious lady-boys hanging out the front and on bikes – so beware.

The next day Saturday I checked the early evening Kuta Bounty, Apache and Paddys with colleagues and did not see WL’s or freelancers but probably way too early.

When I got away from the work crowd I hit Santa Fe at about 11pm the place was hotting up quickly with 3 girls which soon grew to about 6 plus about 3 others already with guys. The “lady-man” was there with another girl who could also have been dodgy. My girl from last night smiled and friendlily gave me a pinch as she walked past but we both knew it was not going to happen. I sat next to a small very cute girl, who turned out to be probably late 20’s but looked early 20’s.

Great English and liked a laugh after she relaxed. She was just happy to talk, she loved the opportunity to have any drink she wanted and she had a hideous cocktail which she shared with and her two girl friends which suggested the guys normally did not just let her chose. Great that unlike Thailand, Singapore etc the bar does not hire them and so normal prices apply.

At about 1am I said I was thinking of going and she asked where, and she would come and dance if I wanted. But she was relieved when I said I wanted to head to bed. I asked if she would like to come and she did – and she never discussed money at any stage.

As she said she did not have her ID with her (having come there with a friend not intending to stay) she said there would be a problem with security at the hotel, but I said I would talk our way through and she said I would need to have about 50k as a tip just in case. The guard was pretty pissed off but let us go in and would not take any money from me (but Lucy said it would be important in the morning for her to leave him something – very genuine concern by her).

Lucy was incredibly small but perfectly formed, even after having a 3yr old kiddie. She was a little shy and took a while to get into kissing and then relaxed. After a good BBBJ we were into missionary and cowboy and then I made her come with oral which she loved. Great fully shaved pussy.

Later with the inevitable morning glory, I am pretty sure she would have gone bareback as I was getting really excited and she was very welcoming and I had to force myself to put the glove on.

Even when she was dressed she did not mention money and I gave her 450,000 plus 50k for the security. Pricey maybe for you regulars, but she was so great I wanted to give her that.

By the way, on the way to the hotel I was glad I was with Lucy as there was a gay street party happening outside Q bar and the big bar directly opposite – hundreds of them in the street!!

I am off to Hanoi in a week and if any of you have suggestions can you PM me please.

Cheers,

Carlton

Jaimito Cartero

02-22-05, 06:00

Well 3 days to go before I hit Singapore. I'm going to try to get a direct flight to Denpasar from the Singapore airport. This really is fly by the seat of your pants stuff so I might stay in Bali for 3 weeks or just one week and then do LOS again or maybe Manila for the first time. Is anyone here in Bali over the next week. If so, please PM me.

In any case this will probably be one hell of a report :)

Zos

I think AirAsia has direct flights from KUL to DPS. Fairly inexpensive if you buy far enough in advance. I think you can take a bus or a train from SIN.

Costs for the near future (1 week or so) are about $30 each way.

You can fly from SIN to BKK for $40 or so. (Add taxes to all prices)

I'll be in Bali the last week of March.

Jaimito Cartero

02-22-05, 06:11

The next day Saturday I checked the early evening Kuta Bounty, Apache and Paddys with colleagues and did not see WL’s or freelancers but probably way too early.

When you walk into Paddys, just keep heading towards the back and once you hit the wall, you'll have a lot to choose from. I've gone at 8pm, and found 20 or so ladys working at that time.

In Bounty, they're spread around a bit. Later in the evening (maybe earlier, I wasn't there then), they may be on the tables before the get to the clubs in the back. I picked up a nice one near the entrance with a few friends.

I didn't see any in Apache, but wasn't looking that hard either.

At Club 66 there are some working girls, but they may not always be obvious. I went on Drag Queen night (The Sunday show). I had a gay guy come up and try to start up a conversation. After I told him I was looking for girls, he was happy to help out. I'm sure he would have got a cut if I would have closed the deal.

The club doesn't get going good until 2am or so. It's hard to get a normally priced taxi with all the Taxi mafia outside. Either bring your own, or be ready to be raked over the coals.

450k is still a reasonable price for TLN. If she did it for you great.

I know that when I go back, I'll probably stay in the the area near the nightclubs since I'll only have a few days there. Sure the 100k girls can be fun, but I think the TLN ones can be more interesting.

Carlton

02-22-05, 12:11

Carlton

02-22-05, 12:22

While I was in Bali at the weekend I came across a smooth scam you should watch out for.

At a money exchange place with a much beter exchange rate on Jl Seminyak opp Fabio's the guys there attempted a rip-off. I was changing $100AUD and as he counted out in hundred rupiah lots onto the table - very openly, he then asked me to recount the money leaving it on the table. For the last few rupia above a full hundred he asked for change saying he had noting small, and as I checked my pockets he combined the seperate 100r piles. I am sure he removed some notes because as I recounted as a precaution it was 200,000r less than I counted. When he recounted he stopped half way and said he was confused and would not complete the deal. I presume they attempt the removal by slight-of hand and if you spot it, prefer not to go through the deal because the rate they quote is higher than everyone else (obviously for a reason). Beware.

Carlton

Nuts M

02-23-05, 23:07

For all the info posted here. Gonna be in Bali, in about a week. I'm a Bali Virgin. Will post when I get back hm, maybe I'll be able to post from there.

Peace

Jaimito Cartero

02-24-05, 12:34

for all the info posted here. gonna be in bali, in about a week. i'm a bali virgin. will post when i get back hm, maybe i'll be able to post from there.

peace

most of the internet places i used in bali were dirt slow. sometimes 7 or 8 computers with one dial up line. i did see a nice place in kuta that was fairly cheap, and had better connection speed. (just down the street from bounty/paddy's).

Jaimito Cartero

02-24-05, 12:38

I know that when I go back, I'll probably stay in the the area near the nightclubs since I'll only have a few days there. Sure the 100k girls can be fun, but I think the TLN ones can be more interesting.Jaimito, thanks.

Which area near the night clubs, do you mean Seminyak or Kuta, I will also return for three days next month.

Carlton[/QUOTE]

Kuta, I'd say. Mainly in the area of Bounty and Paddy's.

I was warned by everyone to be wary of the exchange places that offered a lot more than others. While some places changed the rates every day (as they should with currency fluctuations), others always had 9599 and such, and never changed.

For US currency some years of bills are big no-nos. I think 1996 in particular. Luckily I had enough cash on had that I wasn't in trouble. I prefer to use the ATM's, as you get a decent exchange rates. It's just finding ones that will give you 2 million or more at a time. (I think Citibank and Lippobank were the best 1.5 and 2.0 respectively)

Bulai69

02-25-05, 21:39

I was once tempted by a road side stall offering a good rate of exchange but as Carlton mentioned, when I counted my money back at the hotel I'd been ripped of to the tune of 100USD with astonishing dexterity. However, I went to the police station - even though I had no meaningful evidence - and told the main man the story and said that I would "pay his expenses" if he could help me to recover my loss. We were in the police van and back to the stall in an instant. Of course they declared that they'd never seen me before. Interestingly, the policeman did not threaten them with arrest but he threatened to tell their boss! At once I was given my 100USD, the policeman was given 20USD and then I gave him a further 20USD whereupon he drove me back to my hotel. A great system! So if you get ripped of don't hesitate to report it - basically you are providing the police with an opportunity,

Zos68

02-28-05, 13:41

Well Guys,

I'm back again.

Night 3 and counting.

My mate Anton is no-where to be found but hooked up with a local Bali girl for the first two nights.

Winta from the beach at the end of Kuta art market is still here and has taken a hand at finding girls again.

He tells me he has a couple of good ones so after checking them out I take one called Tomang for 2 days at 1.2 mil full time. I'm trusting him a lot at this point but she seems ok, if a bit shy (recommend ST before taking one on for a couple of days).

To tell the truth it was a lot of fun. This girl is obviously not a pro at 23 years but just starting out. Real GFE in that you had to work to get in her pants. This is good fun sometimes I think. She had no mobile and she took me to her place....definately not rich for here.

We went out to Winta's place last night for a fish BBQ and Arak, she didn't drink and wanted to leave at 7pm <--- now compare that to Thailand bar girls :) Like I said, good for a couple of days but I couldn't handle something like that for any longer!!

Oh she told me Winta is getting 1/2 the money!! After I gave him heaps for the party last night thats a bit rough I think. Told him so this morning.

Stayed at Discovery Kartika Plaza for the first 2 nights and moved yesterday to Melasti Hotel just up the road. Both are GF but Melasti is heaps cheaper and Discovery couldn't find me a big double bed :(

Melasti rooms are pretty good. I'm typing this from a king size bed with a great ocean view. Don't stay here on an upper floor if your bad with steps though. No bottle opener in the room and you have to stock the fridge yourself.

I went up to Matahari this morning looking for a bottle opener. They open at 9.30am but the sellers were there as usual. Waited till 9.25 and someone finally said they had one and offered it to me at 200000rp. Finally bought it at 25000rp just before the doors opened :) Combo beer/wine/knife/lighter job hehehe.

I did one night in Singapore before flying down here and did Orchard Towers but since I'm going back again I'll do a report in Singapore section later (initial impression for Aussie guys is don't bother). $311sin return to Bali on Australian Airlines.

Here till Friday then back to Sing but will probably go straight through to LOS again.

At least this trip I'm getting hassled less by sellers on the beach since a lot of people remember me.

I'm thinking of going up to Paddys area in about an hour and getting a cheap skank for the night... Too much GFE is bad for the soul.

zos

As a Guru once said...by any reasonable definition anyone here would make a pretty crappy husband :)

Jaimito Cartero

03-01-05, 07:59

I'm still looking for a decent place in Kuta to stay for a few days this month. Say within walking distance (1km) of Paddy's, etc. In the $20-$40 US range, I'd say. Girl friendly, of course!

Franco

03-01-05, 08:02

Should I expect any action at the Nusa Dua Hotel spa ?
I am going there for a few days.....

Zos68

03-03-05, 06:25

Well Guys,

After 6 days here I've changed plans again.

With much soul searching I've decided to give up a return trip to LOS and stay in Bali for another 10 days. The reasoning is that I found my mate Anton and he wanted to go up to Surabaya for a couple of days, the girls are getting better here and booking from Sing to BKK was turning out to be a big hassle. Also Australian Airlines couldn't extend the flight for 3 days due to being booked out... oh well another 10 days in paradise. Australian Airlines needs me to go to head office in Sanur to pay the change fee :(

After having Komang for 2 days I was at a bar across from Paddys that had a really great live band. I got a front row seat with the bouncers since one of them was working at Bakung Beach the first night I arrived when I got them all pissed :) Knowing people is good.
This guy tracked down Anton for me as well.

The next night I had a real honey via Anton. 3 hours and paid 600000rp including tip. I know this is a lot but wanted to help a mate and the girl was great. First time a girl nearly forced me to do her without a cover (all the while in a bath tub). I didn't but it was tempting. It seems Anton isn't working in the shop anymore due to a fight with his sister.

Last night I got another girl from Winta. She is the best friend of the girl I had for 2 days earlier. We all went to this great local cafe...this place would have been hunters heaven. I'll get the name of the place later but it was between Kuta and Denpasar and the local equivalant of a beer bar.

It was funny this morning when last nights girl (Yuni) asked me to go back to her place and Komang was there. I didn't think face was so big a deal here. I guess same the world over.

Tourist numbers are way down probably because of the heat and we had a minor earthquake here yesterday morning. After the girl had left and I was watching a movie the bed starts shaking. I'm thinking next door must be at it but later I shake the bed and it must weigh a ton!! Obviously 1st time I've been in a quake.

More reports later but thanks to Jackson for the status upgrade.

zos

Dorman

03-03-05, 10:42

Should I expect any action at the Nusa Dua Hotel spa ?
I am going there for a few days.....

NO (sorry!)

Zos68

03-06-05, 08:44

Well Guys,

I have just spent the last 2 1/2 days tripping around the island again.

Took Yuni with me and had Winta as the driver. First night was up in Lovina again but this trip we made the effort to get up at 5:30am to go out in a boat to see the dolphins. The place is famous for them but all we got was wet!! As has been said previously don't expect to find many girls there, pick one up in Kuta or Sanur and take them with you. You can get a pretty good room on the beach with a/c but no fridge or TV for 125000rp.

I would guess that these places are not really GF since the place I stayed at had a "no guests" rule after 10pm but there is no problem checking in with your GF.

Next night was back to the Village at the base of the volcano. Room rates 60000-100000 with TV but no A/C. Its pretty cold up there anyway.

I would almost think that the girl I've been with the last few days actually wants to marry me (please save me guys !!). I got an offer to meet her parents, another offer to have kids. She never asked for money but Winta said I should give her quite a bit.

I'm suspecting he's looking after his interests and tempting girls with offers of big money to be with guys that treat them pretty well. This girl is from Java and has only been here 3 months. If this is a good guess its something to look out for. Bosses in Bali have always been insane and don't really care about repeat farang customers <--- if anyone can explain this to me???

I'm going to be here for Nipi this year. Its on Thursday. Basically a Hindu holiday but your not allowed to go out of your hotel. I'd be interested to see the reactions of a lot of the tourists who don't understand. Especially those that came here for 3 days or so and 1 day is spent in a hotel room without a TV or food :)

I'm off to visit my friend Anton in a few minutes to see if he is still sick and if he has drunk the rest of my scotch :)

More reports to follow, comments welcome.

zos

Nuts M

03-06-05, 12:52

A girl told me Jayakarta hotel? 300k rp or Puru Duyung 250k, but I can't find either on the web at those prices. Oh well, but I'm getting cleaned like a clock paying over mkt prices all day.

Jaimito Cartero

03-06-05, 23:31

A girl told me Jayakarta hotel? 300k rp or Puru Duyung 250k, but I can't find either on the web at those prices. Oh well, but I'm getting cleaned like a clock paying over mkt prices all day.

Okay, I'll do some web searching. I just want to be close to the action, since I"ll only be there for a few days.

-JC

1Ball

03-07-05, 02:00

Jaimito Cartero

03-07-05, 04:55

JC the Jayakarta hotel is right in the middle of Legian. prices are 45$ net inc breakfast. tel number 751 433, http://www.baliforyou.com/bali/bali_hotel/badung/jayakarta_hotel.htm

a little lower on quality / price is 3 Brothers, a fixture for expats in legian, same street, a couple of pools, I stayed there 25 years ago, and it has now quadrupled in size. 33$ net inc breakfast, 751566, no website. (they have an awesome black rice pudding ) a friend stayed there a year or so ago, the rooms look a little tired, but it was adequate.

will be here until the 20th, you have my email so let me know if you are coming in B4.

hope that helps.

1ball

How far are the places from Paddy's? The Jayakarta shows much higher prices on it's website ($80 us a night, I think). Are you using a kiosk to the get the local price, or? I also looked on Asia-Hotels.com and only found a $85 price for the Jayakarta. I did see some for $20-$32 a night in Legian/Kuta (Melasti Beach Resort, Green Garden Hotel, Melasti Beach Bungalows), but I have no idea if these are GF, or close enough to the action.

Thanks, as always. I won't be getting to Bali until the 26th, I think.

1Ball

03-08-05, 03:03

JC
the Jayakarta hotel is 2 km from Paddys, 3 brothers abt 1.5km. The price quoted was as a result of a phoner call directly to the resrvation office at the hotel.
i found something that might just work for you. it is called hotel ORANJJE, (yes it is spelled correctly), it is on jl Melasti. If you have an old map from your previous trip, you should find that street, it runs from Jl legian to the beach. The place is literally on the corner. it is 200,000 per night net, including breakfast, "cewek" welcome. i did not check to see if it has a pool.
email is oranjjekuta@eksadata.com. tel number is 762626.

Bali is preparing for a 4 day holiday, so if you email them, they might not answer until monday. My suggestion is to book 1 night, and there are literally dozens of places either right bafore paddy's or right after. You can go on a search, if this isn't to your liking. They don't take credit cards, though it is low season, they might not require a deposit. if they do, i can front you the 200K, you can just give it to ketut when you get here. i can email you her number, and she will come by the place to pick it up, if you leave it in an enveloppe with her name on it.
Sorry we miss each other by a few days again. we need to coordinate this so we can go out partying, would prefer in BKK, away from the "wife".
1ball

Jaimito Cartero

03-08-05, 03:24

JC
the Jayakarta hotel is 2 km from Paddys, 3 brothers abt 1.5km. The price quoted was as a result of a phoner call directly to the resrvation office at the hotel.
i found something that might just work for you. it is called hotel ORANJJE, (yes it is spelled correctly), it is on jl Melasti. If you have an old map from your previous trip, you should find that street, it runs from Jl legian to the beach. The place is literally on the corner. it is 200,000 per night net, including breakfast, "cewek" welcome.

I don't know if I have a Bali map here or not. I'll look a bit. How far is it from Paddy's? 2 kilometers or less is optimal.

You've picked good hotels for me before, so I trust you! I'll probably stay the one night and then decide if I want to stay longer. I'll email them and see what they say. I appreciate the offer of helping with the deposit. I'll PM you if I need help.

I will be in BKK from Mar 20-23 and April 1-4. If you do happen to be passing through, let me know.

1Ball

03-08-05, 03:52

sorry, I forgot to add, the orangge is 1.2 km from paddy's.

u can probably google a map of Legian

Zos68

03-10-05, 14:19

Well guys,

I've escaped from Nypie in Bali and headed up to Surabaya until Sunday With my mate Anton, his GF and I brought a GF from Bali with me as well. I'll post this here since my Bali GF is with me as a freebie so I won't play up too much.
I did get offered ST by some boss on the underground floor of the main mall today though while my GF was in a clothes store. It seems the guy recognised me from Bali and he also wanted to get out of the place for a few days. This guy works at club 66.

Sorry for going off topic but:
News from Bali is not all good. Its been raining for a few days, earthquakes and the volcano has been playing up a bit. Add that to these white crosses that keep poping up everywhere and some of the locals are a bit worried. There was an article in todays Jakarta post about it. They think its a bad omen.

Anyway I'll post more later. There is a band starting soon in the hotel bar here that I want to check out.

Cheers and Bintangs

zos

Don Chedi

03-12-05, 10:03

Hello guys,

I am a new member, coming from the Netherlands. I am going to Bali for my next holidaytrip. And, as I am an enthoustiastic diver for years now, of course my diving hobby is the most important reason again. I am free in my time spending, nothing booked but the tickets, but I was planning going to Padangbay in the east and gilimanjuk in the west.

As I am traveling alone, company would be appreciated, company what you call here a GFE.

In Thailand and the Philippines that was easy. Reading the post in this forum, I could conclude, that around the places I mentioned, is no real chanche for finding a GF. What do you suggest, hang around in Kuta for a day or two and then move on? And, because most postings here are about ST and one night adventures, where do you suggest to move around for finding freelance GF?

Thanks for reply.

Don

Larry Flynt

03-12-05, 17:02

I visited Bali in Late December and thought it was about time I shared my experiences with the forum. My first week was spent shopping and sight seeing but got plenty of offers for some action mainly from girls on scooters and the local touts. On my second week I decided to check out Kuta Bugar massage which was recommended by another member of the board but not knowing the location I had to ask the taxi driver who claimed he knew where it was. Sure enough he drove me to one of the many Sanur brothels while still mainintaining that this was "Kuta Bugar" massage. Rather than getting angry I just laughed at the situation and figured that while I was here I should take in the delights on offer. I chose a short well stacked girl and had a great experience but to be honest can't even recall pricing or her name but overall was very good.

The next day I again tried for Kuta Bugar massage and suceeded this time in finding it thanks to a more friendly taxi driver. Once inside the building you look to your right through a window where 20 or so girls are sitting and tell the boss which you'd like. I chose a big breasted girl with an even bigger smile, the massage wasn't the greatest but the handjob was great and she took off her shirt so I could play with those great boobs. A funny incident occured when I overheard another australian talking in the stall next to mine, he was shouting to his friend that they were making him some spring rolls. I lasked loudly if he planned on sharing them and we all laughed with him promising to save me one. On the way out my girl assumed that I knew the guy and pulled the curtin screening his booth aside which left two half naked strangers staring at one another but we both laughed it off.

I visited Kuta Bugar massage twice more and on the second time got the sister of the first girl I had chosen, again the massage was avergae but the girls were nice looking and friendly. A few days passed and I decided I wanted some more action so headed out to Sanur to pick up a girl but this time wanted to take her back to my hotel room. I can't recall the specifics but the boss wanted some ridiculous amount and I told him I'd pay a certain amount but he refused to budge so I jumped in the taxi to leave and as expected was stopped and told that he'd accepted. I chose a short haired girl by the name of Mary who seemed excited at the prospect of going back to the hotel.

Mary was a wildcat in bed and there wasn't much she wouldn't do and we went at it for an hour or two at which time Mary got angry that she'd climaxed (3) more times then me (2). I laughed and then realised I had run out of condoms and couldn't even the scores which didn't seem to phase Mary who was happy to go the next round without a condom but I was having none of that. We fooled around until Dawn and I helped her get a taxi and she promised to come back the next night. Sure enough she called me the next evening and after fucking for an hour or two Mary started talking about me coming back to her village and the word "marriage" was mentioned.

This rattled me a bit and I told her I had to meet a friend and would have to leave in an hour, she turned on the jealousy and said I was heading off to see another girl. It soon turned ridiculous with her demanding I call my friend so she could listen in and see if it was another girl. I promised to call her the next day (which I didn't) and got her a taxi and went out for some tea.

The next day I bumped into a local girl who'd been trying to sell me a spa package all week and we got to talking. She asked if I'd like to take her out and after an hour or two of shopping she asked to see my hotel. One thing led to another and we did the wild thing, unfortunatly the scenario once again turned into talks of marriage etc and I excused myself.

All in all I had a great time, there's plenty of hot girls both at the brothels and you can often pick up girls at clubs for paid and unpaid fun.

Let me know if anyone needs any further details or has any questions!

Larry Flynt

03-12-05, 17:12

Sorry I forgot to mention an incident with security after I had brought a girl to my room at the hotel. After seeing her off at about 5am and not seeing a single staff member about I went back to bed. When I went out the next morning I passed a cleaner and he asked me;

"Where's your girlfriend?"

I'm guessing someone must have seen her leave but boy does news travel fast between the staff!

On my way out that day my taxi was stopped by security who commented that he knew I had a guest last night and asked if I had a good time. Thinking it was none of his business I laughed him off and told my taxi driver to continue on. after returning from my trip he again stopped me and told me that letting guests in was frowned upon and he was doing me a favour. Knowing th drill I handed him 20,000 and he smiled and told me that I learned quickly.

I'd say that is the norm, if security ever hassles you or your girl then a quick money exchange will make it all that more easy.

Zos68

03-15-05, 11:46

Well guys,

I've left Bali and am now in Singapore so I'll finish the report.

The trip to Surabaya went well until one night at a local disco went horribly wrong.
Sorry I cant remember the name of the place but it was a 3-4 story place with karioke on the top floor, Disco one floor down and a bar with live music the floor below. 50k rp entry to the disco and it was empty when we arrived so down to the bar for a while. Everything was going well until Anton suggested we go check out the disco again.

Unknown to me it seems my 3 friends took several small "tablets" before going back in and the mood was suddenly more enjoyable for them. I only realised when my GF passed out and I had to spend 1/2 hr with her and the security guys on the floor of the ladies toilets :(
After getting her back to our seats she was mostly unconcious and it seemed strange to me that my other 2 friends didn't seem to care and just wanted to keep dancing. At this point the penny drops and I honestly want to do Anton some serious damage. Being in a strange town with only limited Indonesian, with an barely alive GF and 2 friends who think gravity just disappeared is not my idea of a good time.

Not wanting to end up in an indonesian prison made me keep mostly cool about it all. I basically carried her out to a cab and left my other "friends" to dance it off. Got back to the hotel, put her in a bath then watched her for 3 hours to make sure she didn't die!

The next morning I gave her the cold shoulder until thinking that if she wants to die its not my problem and since it wasn't really costing me anything except a bit of stress I might as well just have fun and forgive her. I was seriously going to kick Anton and his GF out on the street since I was paying for their room but decided against it. Make peace not war.
Someone stole her mobile phone while she was out of it as well. hehe I bet she misses her SIM card.
I actually bought her a new one the next day... Stupid me, I realised it was gone before we left but gave up the search guessing it was stolen and just wanting to get out of there.

Anyway the trip back to Bali went well in the end despite nearly having to go via Jakarta.

hehe after dropping Anton back at his place I spent my last night in Bali at my GF's house.

After arriving things just got stranger and stranger.
Maybe due to the number of Bintangs I had over the last few days or possibly due to the heat I found myself actually having feelings for the girl. I met who she said were her parents and got invited up to the village in south Java. I was also told that the guy that introduced me to Yuni (my friend Winta) was getting 50% on all money the girls get and that he was next in line for the girl I was with!!

After a night out in Kuta we then go back to her place at about 1-2am. Security then has a problem with me being there but Yuni seems to talk the guy out of it. 5 mins later he knocks at the door and says that I can only stay if he gets next shot at her :(
She then calls someone who she says is her brother to come over with all his friends and "talk" to the guy....At this point I'm thinking about an Indonesian prison again and a flight I need to get to Singapore for work the next day.
Needless to say no more problems with security and I stayed out of it!

The next morning its time for a quick shopping trip for DVD's and off to the airport.

She actually cried at the airport and one of the female security guards had to help her outside when I went through customs. I guess I gave her about 2.5mil rp, bought her a mobile and payed for a domestic airfare and hotel.

Well it all seems pretty normal by Indo standards so far but I get an e-mail from her yesterday that was obviously meant for someone else (she told me she didn't have e-mail).

In the e-mail (which dates back several months) it shows how she has been scamming some guy called Peter from Holland with everything from the dead grandmother to the school costs!!

I'll post the whole thing if anyone is interested :)

I'm just thinking that I've never been to China or RPI :)

Cheers and Bintangs,

zos

1Ball

03-16-05, 11:59

OK Zos, let's see what the email said............:)

Jaimito Cartero

03-16-05, 12:39

Zos - Yeah, it is easy to get caught up in stuff. I treat each night as a separate event, and pay them as we go. No freebies, no guilt, and certainly no committment. I make it pretty clear as I go along.

Zos68

03-23-05, 08:22

Well guys,

I've decided that its not good form to post someone elses e-mail. I've been mailing the guy for a few days and he actually seems like a nice bloke!

I just couldn't do that to him.

I'm putting the cards on the table with this girl. I've given her an offer to spend a year in Australia. No issues with "family" "friends" "mafia" or anything from her past really.

Call me crazy but I can afford it and it will be a good test!
I don't live in a big city and mobile phones don't work in most of the regions I'm in.

We will see if she takes the offer or not and I wonder if she or her friends has any idea about what central Queensland is like.

My turf guys. If she turns up great. No issues with her friends. The Crocs are always hungry :)

If not I'll post a report for people who might be thinking the same thing.

Visa Issues:

200000rp for a passport
If the ID card is not from Bali they have to go to Java.

For immigration you have to give bank details. Base $1000 per month stay and rates notices for your house.

Fill in a stat dec that you will look after her and put enough money in her bank account so that she can get a return airfare.

Anyway we will see what happens.

Regards
zos

We will see if she actually does it.

Zos68

04-02-05, 05:46

Well Guys,

It seems no-one else has posted for a while so I'll add another chapter.

At least no-one has said the info I'm posting is useless or worse, RTFF ;)

I found myself with a week off before I could start work proper and just had some e-mail stuff to do so I jumped on another plane to Bali.

GF and her father met me at the airport and I stayed with her at Melasti for a couple of days. Since she really seemed to want to go to Australia we decided to get her a passport.

This is where things get interesting. Since she is from Java we got a driver and started out.

I don't want to make this report into a tourist guide so I'll just cover points of interest. Lets just say that South Java is an eye-opener. If I've accomplished nothing else, I've seen a part of the world I never would have thought off.

We had to go to Jimbur immigration office with her ID, birth certificate and her parents marriage documents. This was ok and her father knew someone at the office so this helped a little. As I said the Indo embassy in Australia said it would cost about 200000rp. It seems this is correct according to the forms they hand out. We met a lot of people who had been waiting at the office for over a week though :(

Basically this was my first direct experience with government corruption in Indo. I payed the lady (who GF's father knows) 1 mil rp to get fast tracked. That is to get put at the top of the line for interviews (probably helped there), photos, document checks ect. We still had to stay overnight and I have to recommend the Safari Hotel. No idea if GF but compared to the place we stayed the night before in Banyuwangi it was great.

Next morning the lady said there were more delays but after 2 hrs I had my GF slip her another 100000 and the passport showed up in 15-20mins :)

Passport in less than 24hrs!!! Is that good or what?

I'm giving this girl a chance. I might be stupid, but the cost won't really hurt me and I want to see...

For you guys mongering in south Java the immigration dept in Jimbur would probably be a good place for girls wanting to get out of Java, hehe

Matahari in Jimbur seems to be good also to find a GF. We had lunch there and one of the girls working as a waitress asked my GF where I was from. My gf said she didn't know and the waitress assumed I was an Arab!!
Seems she wants to marry an Arab <--- no joke:)
I should say that I couldn't care less where someone comes from but I guess this girl has never seen someone from Arabia in her life yet wants to marry him :)

Anyway - next step is an Australian Visa.....we will see how that goes.

If you guys think I'm off topic, or posting stuff that no-one gives a shit about please let me know.
I'll stop if no-one is interested.

zos

Jaimito Cartero

04-02-05, 08:13

Just a quick footnote on my visit to Bali. A big thanks to 1Ball for the hotel booking, and the tip on getting "non Taxi Mafia" taxis. You just go to the departure terminal and get a taxi that just left someone. About 1/2 price. You do have to be quick though. As I was getting in, one of the "Taxi Mafia" guys started yelling at my driver and told him he couldn't take me. I just threw my bags in, and off we went.

I stayed at the Mastapa Garden Hotel, which is a 600 or 700 meters up the street from Bounty/Paddy's. I paid 250k net with Cont breakfast. You can book for $25 on the net, or 225k at the airport (However, they're often full, so they might not be available). Decent staff, friendly and such. It's just by the Mama's German restaurant.

I hate to say it, but I did no mongering. I just picked up some wooden items that I didn't have room for last time. I was going to go to Bounty my last night, but just somehow didn't feel in the mood. I guess going back to Jakarta meant that I had to save up for some there. :)

Nuts M

04-04-05, 05:57

Dian ayu, or whatever its called: I went there in the afternoon first day in Bali. located as stated in prior posts. I did go w/ a cabbie, but he was cool, blue bird, or atleast I think he's cool, used him a couple times. The pimp asked him something and he made a funny face and shook his head no. My guess was if he wanted a mark up. As the cab drove down the street, there were girls walking down the lane and as we parked they were all out there. I picked Lina, younger kinda seemed shy, who took me for a few more bucks. Pimp asks for 300, 000. I told him 200, 000 and settled on 250. We do the shower thing and I'm hard, she makes like she's gonna blow me but then says 200, 000 first, for all included but no kissing, I'm like bullshit. She doesn't understand and keeps yapping trying to sell it. I want her to start sucking so I pay her. Well what can I say I'm a weak bastard. 20 bucks WTF. BBJ decent, screwed in a couple positions, and yeah, now I know what you all have been raving about the fact that the girls enjoy themselves.

So anyways, she gets off, I don't so I'm still hard, and she starting giving me attitude about long time etc. But yeah we were going at it for a while, so finally she trys yanking on me w/ a HJ and I'm like ok then eh, stop that, and we screw somemore but she's not into it and then gets scared when I say I'm done and want to leave w/o cumming, she's worried about me complaining to the pimp or taxi. I tell her "no problem" that as you all know is like a phrase there. Over all I'd say pretty hot she was cute, nice sized responsive rack, little roll around the middle but not bad and nice ass. 20 something.

A buddy and I go back there late at nite just before Nypei and I was surprised how many ladies there were we had come from the karaokes and they were pretty empty (more on that later). But the girls that were there at midnight, there were alot more they were pretty much all older and fatter and harder looking. Maybe I was biased coming from the karaoke but. Sat night check out Paddys. Like you all said. I didn't see any there it was maybe 10 10: 30, checked the place one club up the street. nada. I missed the club that is set back from the street between the Paddy's and the next club.

I head up to Santa Fe and there is a bunch of girls hanging out outside to the right side of the table area outside. There was one that was sitting right next to a bule but not talking to him or anything and giving me the eye. She was young and cute but she had more rolls than the michlin man ok maybe not that many but they were noticable. I start chatting w/ a Sindia, from Java. She says forgive me for asking but (I forgot how exactly she asked about payment) she wanted to charge me 700, 000, I try lower and she don't budge damn. I don't know what the fuck I was doing wrong. Should have picked another but still thinking in US rates, eh 70 bucks for all night is a deal. So we leave, catch a cab, and we pass Hard Rock, I was staying in Sanur, Sindia tells the cabbie hey, your passing the hotel, she thought I was staying at the Hard Rock for some reason. I guess the band was too lound. Hmm maybe that's why the price didn't budge.

Ok we get to the hotel, and the night desk guy want's to charge me 15 bucks for the girl, I'm like bullshit. And then she steps on my foot, and I'm rambling on and then she steps in and goes off on him in Indonesian. We get to the room, oh the desk guy took her ID card, and she says why do you stay in sanur, sanur is all business, kuta better and gave me a couple hotels that she liked. When I wrote them down on a pad I had on the counter she was like no don't' leave that out like that, everybody looks at everything so she tore off that section and told me to put it in my pocket. She also gives me a lecture about the desk guy, and she is like she negotiated him to 50, 000 for a couple hours, but I'm like what happened to all night.

So anyways, we shower seperately. BBJ not bad, and I eat her, now she wasn't really getting into it, so we fuck and man, this is the first time when I'm on top did I feel like I was getting fucked more from the bottom, I mean it was like alien or a crab was under me locked on below me banging the fuck out of me, I was tripping. Oh she didn't breakout her own condom so I broke out mine. Lina above had one condom but I brought extras. We take a break and shoot the shit, she says she has a kid and her husband died and was a taxi driver. She shows me a picture of her kid who she says is 9 or was it 10 I forget. But she lives w/ him and goes out after he goes to sleep. She also said she's from Java and been in Bali for over 1 yr. Sindia was also proud of her body, she was very slim, small tits, and ass but good tone and nice over all. She was very good looking, pretty hot but needed dental work, which I didn't notice at the bar, but did when making out. She mentioned something about "Kata" or something she was trying to explain about when women have kids there body goes to shit, or atleast that was what I thought she was talking about. Her phone rings, I guess it was her pimp or husband/boy toy? Sounded like a guy, she snaps at him and oh, shit she didn't look too sexy when she was chewing his ass, man, let me tell ya. Ok so break time was over and she goes back to work, and more BBJ and we fuck more sideways and doggie. She tells me I look tired and don't I want to go to sleep? I'm like oh fuck is she gonna rip me off if I fall a sleep, so I get worried. But we cuddle and make out some more and she gets up to shower and starts to get dressed. I'm like where are you going, but she says its almost 4 hrs already. And then I realize yeah, I am tired and want to go to sleep but I don't trust her. So I call her a cab and she hits me up for 20, 000 for cab fare and asks me to walk her out. I don't' remember if I gave her the 50, 000 for the front desk guy or she might have paid it, I doubt it ha. So I walk her all the way out, she says if not the desk guy will give her more shit and the security would hit her up for cash too.

She passed the $ to the desk guy very discretely and he handed over her ID. Over all much better service and performance than Lina but she wasn't getting off so I kinda hurt my ego. Or rather I thought she was faking it w/ me. But boy did I miss her on Sunday nite. I went back to the bars a little later like 11pm+ but 0 all empty. I wasn't planning on seeing her again because there was a bunch of girls to choose from and I wanted to try someone else but oh well, I guess I should've gotten her number. to be continued. Thanks guys for all the info which allowed me to hit the ground running.

Zos68

04-05-05, 02:25

For those guys who don't know there is an Australian girl in Bali possibly facing a death sentence for drug running. She was found to have 4kg of grass in her body-board bag.

IMHO this is one of the most stupid things I have ever heard off. Anyone who has ever been to Bali knows that drugs cost next to nothing, you would have to be stupid to buy them, and even more insane to try to import them from a country where they are worth 100 times as much.

My interest in the matter is only that when I got off my plane to Denpasar I was greeted by lots of polisi with automatic weapons!!! It seems that a witness in this trial was on my flight.

I've been through security in Denpasar a few times now and they really still have no idea. Some of the metal detectors don't work and as far as I can tell most of the immigration people don't care.

This girl would have been set up in my opinion.
4kg would have nearly doubled the wieght of a body-board.
You could not have noticed that.

She will probably get off without a death sentence due to the amount of money Australia is donating to the country atm but make sure you check your bags before flying.

DJ Monger

04-05-05, 07:54

Anyway - next step is an Australian Visa.....we will see how that goes.

If you guys think I'm off topic, or posting stuff that no-one gives a shit about please let me know.

I'll stop if no-one is interested.

zosZos please go right ahead, I've thought about doing this before and am quite curious how it will all turn out. As far as I'm concerned you can give us all the details you want, about immigration, how it goes with her in australia, anything really - I've often wondered what it would like to bring one of these girls home for a while, could be great, could be a nightmare.

I'm also curious what the process would be like to get an american visa for an indo girl, i've heard it's next to impossible these days.

DJ monger

DJ Monger

04-05-05, 08:45

As I am traveling alone, company would be appreciated, company what you call here a GFE.

where do you suggest to move around for finding freelance GF?

Thanks for reply.

DonFor a gfe I recommend searching at Mbargo on Jalan Legian (the main tourist strip in Kuta) from 12-3, just next to the bomb site. Going price seems to be 500k for one night, I could see paying a bit more for someone really hot under the age of 21, but to tell the truth someone like that would probably just be choosy and look for someone her own age! One caveat, mbargo attracts a bit of a younger crowd. I'm in my 30s and do fine, but you might feel out of place there if you're in your late 40's or 50's. Of course theres no door policy excluding old dudes so it's up to you whether you feel comfortable there or not, but be warned it's not strictly a mongering place. And they play rap music (which i like).

If you dont find anything to your liking by closing move on to double six club from 3-6 (close by, all taxi drivers know it). Lots of mongering going on there! also you can get there early, it will be pretty quiet until 3am but there will probably be a girl or 3 hanging out from 1am onwards, before it gets busy...

Bali doesn't have too many bars like in thailand or singapore where there are 5 girls for every guy, but if you go to one of these places and keep looking for a local girl you're sure to score by the end of the night - just dont be *too* picky, Bali's not bad but it's not quite monger heaven.

Anyway I'd plan to stick around kuta for a day or 3, till you find the right girl, maybe learn to surf or something by day, then head up to padangbai with your new gf (rates negotiable but you should get a healthy discount from the 500k/night) once you found someone suitable. Some indo working girls are nice, some are practically feral and a complete headache, more of the latter than in thailand. So at least spend the night first, and maybe the day after, to get a reading on her before you commit to spending a week with her.

And, as I am an enthoustiastic diver for years now, of course my diving hobby is the most important reason again. I am free in my time spending, nothing booked but the tickets, but I was planning going to Padangbay in the east and gilimanjuk in the west.

DonPadangbai has some very good diving, especially around those tiny little islands off of candidasa. Also that island near gilimanuk (menjangdanan-something-or-other) is supposed to be quite good. But for the best diving in Indonesia you might take a plane up to manado for a few days and do bunaken island, its fantastic. Mongering is possible up there but they're a bit thin on the ground.

DJ Monger

Hanqe

04-11-05, 17:11

the island menjangan is probably the most beautiful dive place on bali, but far away from kuta and sanur and requires overnight stay 2 nights on the north coast. if you go there, stay in lovina where there are inexpensive hotels (my costed us$ 4:- without ac but fan in the ceiling). there are many dive centres in lovina which will transport you to menjangan and you can find nice company for your hobby in lovina, but it is very quiet up there after the bomb. nusa penida and nusa lembongan outside sanur is also very good for diving and much easier to visit. all dive companies go there but select one company which has a speed boat (ex bali scuba - www.baliscuba.com) you will be back on the main island before dinner and why not the stay in sanur? there are all the beautiful girls waiting for you (see earlier reports on bali). have fun on my favourite spot on earth!

hanqe

for a gfe i recommend searching at mbargo on jalan legian (the main tourist strip in kuta) from 12-3, just next to the bomb site. going price seems to be 500k for one night, i could see paying a bit more for someone really hot under the age of 21, but to tell the truth someone like that would probably just be choosy and look for someone her own age! one caveat, mbargo attracts a bit of a younger crowd. i'm in my 30s and do fine, but you might feel out of place there if you're in your late 40's or 50's. of course theres no door policy excluding old dudes so it's up to you whether you feel comfortable there or not, but be warned it's not strictly a mongering place. and they play rap music (which i like).

if you dont find anything to your liking by closing move on to double six club from 3-6 (close by, all taxi drivers know it). lots of mongering going on there! also you can get there early, it will be pretty quiet until 3am but there will probably be a girl or 3 hanging out from 1am onwards, before it gets busy...

bali doesn't have too many bars like in thailand or singapore where there are 5 girls for every guy, but if you go to one of these places and keep looking for a local girl you're sure to score by the end of the night - just dont be *too* picky, bali's not bad but it's not quite monger heaven.

anyway i'd plan to stick around kuta for a day or 3, till you find the right girl, maybe learn to surf or something by day, then head up to padangbai with your new gf (rates negotiable but you should get a healthy discount from the 500k/night) once you found someone suitable. some indo working girls are nice, some are practically feral and a complete headache, more of the latter than in thailand. so at least spend the night first, and maybe the day after, to get a reading on her before you commit to spending a week with her.

padangbai has some very good diving, especially around those tiny little islands off of candidasa. also that island near gilimanuk (menjangdanan-something-or-other) is supposed to be quite good. but for the best diving in indonesia you might take a plane up to manado for a few days and do bunaken island, its fantastic. mongering is possible up there but they're a bit thin on the ground.

dj monger

Zos68

04-24-05, 12:30

Well guys,

Tomorrow I finish a 20 day roster and the next day I have a flight back to Indo. My girl is on the road to meet me along with her parents.

I guess I'll put them up in a good hotel and give them travel money.
Anyway they have some sort of idea now of what I am worth so I won't talk about money again unless it helps other people.

I have never been to Jakarta before and due to flights we will have to try to get her a visa there rather than Denpasar.

If anyone knows if you can get fast tracked for a visa with the Australian embassy in Jakarta please tell me (see my last post). Paying extra would be good in order to make this happen. Please pm me.

Cheers and Bintangs

zos

Don Chedi

04-25-05, 15:46

Thanks for your reply DJ MONGER. That's what I already thought, to hang around in Kuta for a while. It is still my plan to move around the island and see also a bit of culture, landscape, whatever, because I've got a couple of weeks, but we will see what comes around.

(by the way, I am not that old yet)

Don

Ice Raj

04-27-05, 15:07

Guys,

Would really appreciate some info and guidance. Will be visiting Bali in June, 30th to July 3rd.

I have booked my flight but do I also need to book the room in advance or could I just shop around and book when I get there? Is that period high season?

Also any recommendations for a decent hotel (200k - 300k rph per nite), not too far from the beach and the action, maybe around Kuta?

Cheers guys.

Thank you.

Ice

Jaimito Cartero

04-27-05, 16:53

You can book at the airport, but you may not get the hotel you want. If you read in the various forums, you´ll see some online references to booking websites.

I stayed in Kuta last time and I wouldn´t do it again. Too much traffic. I liked the small bungalows that 1Ball found for me last year in Sanur. (Agung and Sue´s Watering Hole) Nicer, and more laid back. 100k or so for fan. A little bit more for AC. No TV´s or luxuries, but nice people.

I stayed at a 5 star in Nusa Dua, and while amenities were great, I like the feel for the smaller places.

Guys,

Would really appreciate some info and guidance. Will be visiting Bali in June, 30th to July 3rd.

I have booked my flight but do I also need to book the room in advance or could I just shop around and book when I get there? Is that period high season?

Also any recommendations for a decent hotel (200k - 300k rph per nite), not too far from the beach and the action, maybe around Kuta?

Cheers guys.

Thank you.

Ice

Dorman

04-28-05, 03:49

How strict are you on prices Ice Raj? I find you can't do better than the Kuta Seaview Hotel. It's right on the beach five minutes walk from the Hard Rock. You can have a cottage for 450 000 rps a night, but I'm pretty sure they have standard rooms a bit cheaper. It's clean, the breakfast is included, right in the centre and perfectly girl friendly (though she will have to leave her id with security).

Ice Raj

04-28-05, 11:37

Cheers Guys,

Thanks for the comments and info. I have some questions and maybe some responses to your comments.

Jaimito,

The bungalows sound interesting. But I dont know whether it would be 2 quiet for me and my friend. We are of coz plannin on mongering and havin many2 drinks...hehe!! Do you think Sanur area is ok for this?

I read some of the posts here and Sanur seems to have certain areas specific to WL's. I seem to prefer the Bar scene and picking up some delicasies there or something like that.

Dorman,

Yup dude, we are ona budget bro...so as 2 have more Rupiah to spend on mongering and great nites aprtying!! We were planning to spend around USD30 - 35/- per nite on rooms. That works out to 250k -300k Rph right?

I know the Kuta area has an abundant night life by reading some of the previous posts and would like to sample some of it, maybe pick-up some nice night creatures on the way? Haha.

Thank you in advance for your comments...hope to hear from you guys.

Cheers,
Ice

PS : I am planning to pay for the Girls guys...but dont like too hard core girls.

1Ball

04-29-05, 23:52

Ice, you are going to Bali at the very start of the "very very very high" season in Bali. Throngs of euro trash descend on the island for the months of July and August. My advice, book in advance.

Sanur or Kuta?

Sanur is quiet, more of a family type of area, though that is where the brothels are, on Jl Danau Poso. Not much traffic, but also not much going on.

Kuta is throbbing. In many areas, traffic is like a parking lot. Discos pump out techno music until 5.00 AM. Lot's of pros hanging around the bars and clubs.

So u can't have it both ways. U have to sacrifice one thing for the other. Sanur is 20 minutes by car from Kuta, at 4.00 AM on a Sunday morning.

If you want to rent a small scooter, you'll be able to get around a lot faster. 5.00$ per day on average, but you WILL NEED AN INTERNATIONAL DRIVER'S LICENSE, or you can go into DPS with the fellow who rents the bike to you, and get a Bali license. U have to take a written test, but the man who rents the bike to you will give you the answers. (Type of question: "what do u do when you come up to a red light? "? Funny thing is, the actual answer, based on the way the indos drive, is not one of the choices. It should be “go as fast as you can, and try to squeak through, before the traffic coming from the other direction turns you into pavement pizza, but it is legal to go for at least another 120-15 seconds after the light has turned red".

Good luck

Jaimito Cartero

04-30-05, 05:12

Sanur may be too quiet for you. You will probably be able to find something in the Kuta area for 300k or so if you search enough. I think 1ball listed some websites when he responded to me, so you might read back a bit.

You won't get much in the way on non-pro's unless you're real stud. There are tons of good looking Aussies out for the fresh Indo pussy. Semi-pro is the best you'll get, I think. Most of the Paddy's and Bounty crowd are moderate to totally hardcore. You'll pay 250-450k for a couple of hours, to all night. Prices usually go down the last hour of the night.

Ice Raj

05-01-05, 05:41

Jaimito & Iball,

Hi guys, thanks for the posts.

OK, it's Kuta then. And I will book in advance.

Hey, are you guys in Bali during that time? We can meet up for some drinks, on me dudes.

Dorman,

Hi again, looks like I am gonna book in advance and Kuta it is. I will try to book Kuta Seaview Hotel on the net as you recommended, I hope there is a web site or something (if you have some booking info it would be nice dude).

Hey, my invitation is to you too dude, if you are in Bali during my stay there would'nt mind doing a few drinks with you, on me.

Cheers All,

Ice

Hanqe

05-04-05, 19:49

On JL Danau Poso in Sanur there is a massage place just next to the Karooke Bar. Massage is rp50.000:-/hour (US $ 7:-) I had one nice girl many times last summer who gave me bbbj and sex after. I tipped her 20.000 (US $ 3:-) and she seemed to be happy. Condom is your choise. She did not speak one word of English, bu we still understood each other. You can get sex in one of the 100:s of brothels in Sanur for rp100.000 + tip (US$ 14 + tip). I have never paid more.

Why not stay in Sanur and make excurions to Kuta? I do so.

Sanur may be too quiet for you. You will probably be able to find something in the Kuta area for 300k or so if you search enough. I think 1ball listed some websites when he responded to me, so you might read back a bit.

You won't get much in the way on non-pro's unless you're real stud. There are tons of good looking Aussies out for the fresh Indo pussy. Semi-pro is the best you'll get, I think. Most of the Paddy's and Bounty crowd are moderate to totally hardcore. You'll pay 250-450k for a couple of hours, to all night. Prices usually go down the last hour of the night.

Zos68

05-06-05, 03:32

Well guys,

I've just got back from Indo again and this time flew direct to Jakarta. The idea was to get my GF an Australian visa and bring her back here for 3 months.

I guess I was a bit ignorant about the whole thing. This was my first time in Jakarta and I have to say that I like the place. Its a lot cleaner than any other place in the country that I have seen and the number of new buildings indicate that a lot of money is being invested there.

I expected to see a lot more farangs, especially in the tourist locations, but was dissapointed. For example we spent a whole day at the zoo and I only saw 1 other westerner. The place was packed.

Anyway we started our quest at the Australian embasy only to find that you could not apply direct and either have to do it via the internet or through a travel agent. The agent idea sounded easier than chasing around trying to get a bank check from a particular bank

It seems all our documents were ok and lucky her father brought her birth certificate, parents marriage documents ect so we paid them 480000rp and went back to the hotel thinking all was good.

A phone call later that day asking us to come back the next morning shattered this idea. It seems they needed her bank statement for the last 3 months. In farangland this would normally not be an issue if you have ID and your ATM card. Any branch will give you a statement. Not so in Indo because they require to see your passbook as well. Unfortunately this was left in her village about 2 days drive away.

After talking to the embassy I was told to just submit the application and if they needed anything else they would call me and that it would take about 10 working days..... no you can't bribe the Australian embassy people. I guess I'm happy about this even if it slows down the process :)

The Australian embassy is still showing signs of the bombing last year and security are all still wearing flack jackets/ helmets ect.

Taxi Mafia: While I was with my GF and her father we had few problems. Bluebird taxi's were always good but as soon as I left them at the domestic airport even the security guys tried to get me into a private car to get me to the next terminal for an international flight!!

Anyway we will see how the application goes and I will probably have to go back again soon to get her if it is approved.

Cheers and Bintangs

Zos

Larry Flynt

05-06-05, 15:29

Thanks for the update Zos and I'm interested to see how it all goes, good luck man and keep us posted!

Zos68

05-13-05, 03:31

Thanks guys for the positive comments on my reports.

It seems a few people are interested.

Well her visa has been approved so I guess I'm going back to Denpasar in 2 weeks to pick her up.

I basically filled in all the documents for her and had my e-mail as a contact. Passport was ready for collection yesterday.

I'm suprised that there has not been more mention about drug running on this thread. Its about the biggest news in Australia atm due to baggage guys at Sydney airport bringing in coke (no trial yet) and connections to all the drug busts in Bali :(

The moral is to just not do drugs period!! Check your bags before/during and after travel. I'm obviously not some sort of religious freak but a death sentance by firing squad, or 10-20 years in an Indo prison, is not for me.
Needless to say the Indo men in brown are looking for more heads after 9 Aussies were arrested about 2 weeks ago now. Some of them, it seems, had smack strapped to their bodies going through customs. It seems the only choice for these guys is if they want a blindfold or not!!
Tidak Sah.....Polisi Baruk <--- good response when anyone offers you drugs!

Anyway the next step for me is the equivalant of a farang engagement party with her family. They want me to be a Muslim and since I really have no religious connections ,saying I'm a Muslim is not really a worry. My belief atm is only that if there is a god, no matter what religion you are, if your good to people you can't go wrong :)

The worry is that her father was quietly suggesting that I might have to get circumcised!!! My first response was...fuck that will hurt. My 2nd response was that if your god didn't want me to have it he would not have given it to me. We are still debating the matter but it looks like they will let me keep all my parts.

The up side is that if I marry as a Muslim in Indo I can have more than 1 wife if I wanted.

If anyone knows anything about Indo engagements please let me know. Farang culture is obviously a diamond worth 3 months wage. That could set her family up for years as well as buying them a new house!!

Oh well, we will see how it goes.

zos

Fun Times69

05-13-05, 10:22

Hi guys,

Thanks for all your reports over the time I've been reading. I've just got back from Bali/Jakarta and found all the info you have all posted extremely valuable. Thanks again.

Took an internal evening flight down from Jakarta (300,000 Rp) where I'd spent the previous week and was looking forward to getting out of the smoke and pollution. Whatever you expats get paid for living there its not enough!

A really good hotel I stayed at in Kuta was 'Hotel Barong'. It was 250,000 Rp per night and had all the services you would expect. Girl friendly and a complete oasis right in the middle of the action with rooms arranged around two swimming pools courtyard style. I would totally recommend it. Its in Poppies Lane II and was known easily found by the taxi driver who took me from the airport. The fact they charge a fixed rate seems to aid their memories compared to taxi drivers in Jakarta.

Its about 5-10 minutes walk from Paddies and all the action any one interested in meeting girls would want. I myself arrived at midnight and not wishing to miss anything went straight up there and after 20 minutes and two beers met two indonesian spinners interested in a threesome. They started by asking for 800,000 Rp but rapidly went down to 500,000 Rp. Judging by what others have quoted this seemed close to reasonable so I took them back. We showered together and they made this a lush experience. They then took turns BBJJJ uncovered and nibbling nipples etc and then I got down to the real business and f**ked them in turn. Three hours worth of service later they went and I settled down for my first nights sleep in Bali.

An experience to be recommended!

Over the next week I didn't try any MP's or the like mentioned by others. That set up suited me fine. Kuta definately has the restaurants, bars and clubs needed to have a great time.

Happy mongering

Dorman

05-15-05, 05:48

Zos,

I've been following your thread on and off and I'm a little confused, you say you are taking this girl to Oz for a three month trip but the short term nature of the deal is not at all apparent from your last post; you are marrying her. I don't wish to appear rude but it seems to me you are walking into a very serious commitment without realising it. This girl's family is under the very clear impression that you are marrying their daughter and to be honest that is what you are doing. This is no temporary shack up, in the eyes of Indonesian law and Islam you will be her husband and father of her kids if she has any (and believe me if she's an Indonesian girl with a husband she'll have them). And no you will not be allowed a second wife, I think you really need to catch a grip of what's going on here. You seem to have got so caught up in the minutiae and trivia of travel and visa arrangements that you have lost sight of the bigger picture going on around you but I would hazard a guess your girlfriend has a very shrewd grasp of what's happening.

I apologise if I've missed something here and that you have indeed decided that this is the girl for you and are happy to make such a big commitment but it just seems that you are being extremely flippant about something as life changing as this.

On the subject of Islam be under no illusion, circumcision is an absolute must, it is NOT an optional choice you cannot convert and hence you cannot marry if you are not circumcised. The procedure is relatively easy and it takes about an hour, it is done with local anaesthetic injected into the base of the penis (the most uncomfortable part) and then the offending foreskin is cut off and stitched up. You feel a bit of pain for a day or two but in a week to ten days it's as right as rain and in fully working order, I had mine done last November and am very happy with it, it actually feels better. Like I said your father in law is not just suggesting it, you have to get it done, oh well I'm sure you know what you are doing. Good luck.

Zos68

05-15-05, 10:37

Thanks for the feedback Dorman.

I think I know what I'm doing. I really want to see if this will work and do anything I can to make it so.

I really know the risks but I'm 36, have not had kids and want them, I've been married before, to an Aussie, and from sampling.....lets just say a lot of women in Asia and Europe since then I have come to the conclusion that this girl is really worth the effort.

I could be wrong and if so SA and all the other baggers can say "I told you so" and I will owe them all a beer. I am going into this with my eyes wide open.

At my age, with no close relatives left, and earning the money I'm on, if I don't have kids the RSPCA is going to get another big donation. I'd like to have kids before I'm too old to teach them to play cricket!!

Her family is not full-on Islam. Her father has had 2 wives at the same time and they eat anything. The boys in the family drink beer/arak ect.

Sorry for sounding not serious and I hope I have not offended anyone. Just my writing style. I have no need for more than one wife even if I was allowed.

Stupid or not I really love this girl and I am not getting any bits cut off.

Unless someone can tell me a medical reason for doing it!!! 50 years ago ok....but now??? Do you want to hurt your kids for no reason??

Anyway that is my thoughts

Dorman

05-16-05, 04:00

Ok Zos, I see where you're coming from. I understand you have your eyes wide open. I've no intention of slagging you off if it all goes wrong, it's just that I got the impression that you were kind of just rolling along getting a girl for a few months and then throwing her out. You do seem to want to settle down and hey, that's great, good luck to you I hope it all goes well.

I'm still not sure about you getting away without the circumcision, your father in law might be easy going but I don't believe the imam will be so tolerant. I was a good Irish Catholic boy so all my bits were intact and like you had no desire to change but now the job's done I'm quite happy with it, plus the girls seem to like it alot better.

Anyway like I said sorry for getting the wrong end of the stick I hope you will both be very happy together.

Mangga

05-18-05, 02:20

Hey Zos, just read your recent posts about your new adventure. Let me add my good luck too. Just be careful of the pitfalls of cross-cultural relationships. Misunderstanding can easily occur. But you've probably had a few of those already!

If you're keen on having kids, I'd love to see the result. I've seen so many examples of interracial kids who look beautiful. A fresh influx of genes seems to bring out the best in both races... A large number of TV stars and "beautiful people" in Indonesia seem to be "Indos" - ie half Indonesian, half bule (mostly Dutch). And the more Indo-Aust kids there are, the better chance we have of really building a better relationship between the two countries in the future.

In my more stupidly romantic moments I've even considered doing something like that myself....my current girlfriend even has the still more stupid idea that it would "memperbaiki gen kami", improve her family's genes. But fortunately, sanity has prevailed after a period of post-coital mushiness....

Mangga

05-18-05, 02:28

oh btw Zos, most of the investment in real estate in Jakarta is said to be (mostly Chinese-Indonesian) money returning from overseas after it had fled during the 1998 crisis. An apartment block or shopping centre is a safer place to park your money than an Indonesian bank. Indonesia still has a long way to go before genuine foreign investment picks up. So keep your aussies close to your chest..

Zos68

05-20-05, 10:32

Thanks for the good luck wishes guys.

I'm back to Denpasar in about a week. Then a trip to South Java for an engagement party for 2 days. Then we might just hang out in some place like Lovina for a few days.

All tickets are booked including hers back to Oz. A million things could still go wrong but what the hell is life for unless you take a risk sometimes and go with your gut.

A movie comes to mind that has a lot to do with this site and a quote from it is "sometimes you just have to say what the fuck" :)

Well I stand to gain someone who could be a great wife and mother.

I stand to lose: Some money that won't really make much of a difference.
Some heartbreak if it doesn't work out. The skin off my penis.

I figure the risk is worth it.

But FFS they are not doing it to me in Indo with a rusty knife :)

Cheers
Zos

Menteng

05-20-05, 10:45

Zos, I wish you peace in mind. Do not get tempted to do the naughty things we all will continue to do.

John Aldrich

05-20-05, 13:47

If you have the guts you get the glory. All the best

Dorman

05-21-05, 08:24

Hey Mangga,

I agree with you about how attractive "Indos" are, have you heard them called 'fruit salads'?, that's the term my girlfriend uses, not in a derogatory way. Because Indonesia is made up of so many races and cultures there is a great acceptance of mixing the genes, not at all like in China or God forbid Japan. I remember standing in queue at Monas with my gf, in front of us was a group ladies some holding babies I was making faces at one of them (the babies I mean!) when the oldest Ibu asked my gf if we had any kids yet, when she answered 'belum', the old lady said we should we'd make a lovely mix, my girlfriend is a sallow Sundanese, I'm Irish, fair hair, blue eyes. It was remarkable how acceptable such talk was, even in the multi-culti west we'd shy away from such talk.

I remember one girlfriend I had who was Sulawesan, from Manado, but very dark in comparison to most Manadans. She insisted that I not use a condom, I asked why and she replied that she wanted a 'bule' baby. Of course I nearly had apoplexy, but she said if she got pregnant she would disappear off into her kampung and never let me see the child. Her thinking was that bules always abandoned their girls when they got pregnant but on discovering how lovely the children were two years later they would hire expensive lawyers to take them off their mothers. As I knew from experience one guy who had done exactly that I conceded she had a point, her attempts to conceive with me ultimately proved unsuccesful.

Zos,

I'm pleased to see you're coming round to the idea of joining the snipcock club! I recommend you check out the SOS Hospital near Blok M, ask for Dr Gideon, he's well used to performing adult circumcisions, he organised it one day I was diced, sliced and deliverd the next. Alternatively try MMC Hospital in Kuningan, these are modern well equipped hospitals and are very experienced in carrying out the procedure. If anything they get a little bit surprised at the big fuss we make about what they regard as little more than removing an ingrown toe nail, remember little boys get it done here at the age of nine without anaesthetic and they can't wait!

MarkIII

05-22-05, 13:31

Thanks for the good luck wishes guys.

I'm back to Denpasar in about a week. Then a trip to South Java for an engagement party for 2 days. Then we might just hang out in some place like Lovina for a few days.

A movie comes to mind that has a lot to do with this site and a quote from it is "sometimes you just have to say what the fuck" :)

Well I stand to gain someone who could be a great wife and mother.

I stand to lose: Some money that won't really make much of a difference.
Some heartbreak if it doesn't work out. The skin off my penis.

I figure the risk is worth it.

Cheers,

ZosZos,

Reading your posts brings back a lot of memories. In 1997 I met an indo-girl from Solo, about the same story (only later I found out she had a kid too ;-(

I married her in 1998, 2 day wedding party, pretty expensive but she convinced me that it was the right thing to do (I loved her right ?) etc. etc. Later I found out that a 1 day wedding is pretty normal too.

I became a Muslim, lost some skin too.

All the time a little extra etc. etc. When I came back they completely renovated the house (guess who paid for that?). But it needed to be done because of the wedding.

I did it all saying and thinking "what the fuck, I love her" Looking back I realised that I got pretty carried away, blind for anyone saying I should be carefull.

Looking back the only thing I not regret is the circumcision ;-)

Hope you have better luck, saying "what the fuck" could turn out to be pretty expensive in the end.

MarkIII

Bakuhatsu

05-22-05, 18:55

I'm going to be in Bali soon and I'm interesting in meeting some girls for free. I'm in my 20s and in good shape, and people say I'm good looking. So two questions:

* Where do Japanese tourists go dancing ? (I can speak Japanese well, and I have a lot of experience picking up Japanese girls)

* Where are good places to meet young Indonesian women who might be looking for a boyfriend (ie. they are not professional)? Should I go somewhere in Denpasar during the daytime, like a Starbucks kind of place? Or try to pick up shop workers?

I am confident at picking girls up, I just need some help knowing where to look because I've never been to Bali. I'll pay for at least one Indonesian girl if I have to, but I want to try for free first.

Thanks for your help!

Larry Flynt

05-24-05, 13:30

G'Day Bakuhatsu,

If you're looking for Japanese girls I'd suggest visiting "Musro Music Room" which is a nightclub next to the Kartika Plaze Hotel. Last time I stopped in it was full of Japanese with plenty of hot looking women.

For indonesian girls you could try the Discovery Shopping Mall which is near Musro and there's plenty of opportunity to chat to local girls especially in the evening when they knock off for the day.

Good luck and fill us in on how you go!

Larry

Smoothy

05-24-05, 16:43

I second that. Musro is the place to meet Japanese girls. Also, lots of Japanese will be staying at the hotel right next door - Kartika Plaza. At least they were the time I stayed there. Another place you will find the Japanese girls is at the Hard Rock Cafe and the Hard Rock Hotel.

Twister 2

05-25-05, 04:17

I am a regular to Bali and have been known to frequent the houses on Jln Danau Poso for some afternoon action on occasion.

I have had better experiences with the ones where the guy goes off and brings back a couple of girls to choose from. Usually 150K + tip for girl depending on the service. No hurry, two shots, BBBJ and multiple positions, room included.

The one I went to where they had 10-15 girls on location was average, few were acceptable, most 4-5s and was very hurried service with alot of negotiating up front. i got stung on the one across the main road along from barokah - didnt negotiate the Bj into the equation and the cewek wanted larger tip - live and learn. I feel that 150k is a reasonable price for an hours action without being too stingy.

The question is, "where do the guys who head off on the motorbikes go to bring the cewek back to the short time motel"

Can bules go and pick themselves? - perhaps this is a good option if you want some longer term action

Ted Num

05-25-05, 19:14

Hi guys, I'll be in Bali on July and i read your post and I've found them really interesting. Thanks a lot. However, I have some doubts and maybe you could help me a little:

- I'm undecided if is better to stay in Sanur or in Sminyak (sorry for the spelling). I don't like very much to go out until 6am and dancing in the disco, so I'm looking for an equilibrium between relax and some nightlife. Any recomendations?

- Also I'd like to know a hotel in Seminyank, which is not expensive and girl friendly. I read that in Sanur Hesvastika can be a good option (I think from JC)

- Is possible to pick up girls for free? I mean in the street, shops, bars, ... I'm a 38 yrs guy in good shape. If its possible, which can be the best places to pick up these girls and which would be the strategy?

- Also I'd like to know if mongering is restricted to the South or there are also other places as Ubud and Lovina where I can find nice girls.

Thank you guys

Fun Times69

05-27-05, 11:11

Ted Num,

I stayed in Bali for the first time in May. Kuta, Seminyak etc are all very close to each other so don't get too focused on the exact location if I were you.

I stayed in Hotel Barong which is dead central in Kuta and a lush place arranged around two pools - 250,000Rp per night. I couldn't recommend a better value place thats so relaxing, surprisingly quiet, and chilled but also just round the corner from all the action.

Paddy's and the other bars there are the key places to hang out in if you fancy the idea of 'picking up' some pretty locals but of course other members of the forum may have better tips.

Zos68

05-28-05, 09:55

Well Guys,

I hit Denpasar again tomorrow night. Girlfriend and her parents are meeting me at the airport.

This will be 2 days after the Corby drugs trial verdict. For anyone who has been looking for girls on Mars for the last few days she got 20 years in Bali prison for trying to import 4.2kg of high quality pot.

It has been on all the TV stations in OZ and today took up most of the first 5 pages of all newspapers everywhere in the country. You might be thinking "so what" but it appears she might not be guilty and the stuff could have been planted on her. At the moment there is sufficient evidence to raise doubt and Australian Feds are still investigating baggage handlers. I personally don't have an opinion except to say that you should always look after your own bags and check before going through customs.....I know I have said this before and don't want to get flamed for repeating myself but this decision deserves a comment.

This girl is in a small cell with 7 other Indo women. They get 1 bucket of water for washing per day ect ect. Personally I would rather get the firing squad, if it wasn't for the possibility of escape.

What makes it worse for the rest of us is that this girls family abused Indo Judges in a court full of people and televised to an international audience including millions of Australians. It seems many Australians might boycott Bali because of this.

I know its slightly off topic again but if, like me, your going to Bali in the next few days it pays to be aware of what is going on.

Ted Num,

If I am staying in Kuta I will first try the Melasti (its near Kuta Art Market). Its 350000rp but the people there know me and my GF and treat us well so I show a bit of loyalty.....and get cheaper prices at most times.

Like Domfor said distance does not mean much since cabs are so cheap. Read the forum about cabs.

hehehe I would just like to ask you if it is possible to pick up any girl anywhere for free??? IMHO it is not. Especially if you factor in your time and expenses. If you want a semi-pro for fun or non-pro for marriage, talk to the locals either at a shop near your hotel or on the beach ect or just chat to girls you meet anywhere. Don't bother with the clubs...Good girls don't go there. Learn the language at least a bit.

In Lovina or Ubud you would be hard pressed to find WG's if you don't know people.
Lovina is a great place though. I plan on spending another couple of days there this trip. Might get to see the dolphins this time :)

If anyone disagrees with anything I have said please let me know but FFS check your bags!!

zos

Dick Nasty

05-28-05, 10:46

A sad story for Corby indeed, I saw in the news. If she couldn't prove that it wasn't hers, then who outha be blamed for this?

The only way Corby can have a chance, if the person who planted the hash in her bag will step forward. But I am not familiar with Indonesian Law, by this time, it may already been too late. The verdict has been anounced and it is usually final.

My personal feeling is that she is innocent, but the law doesn't base on feelings.

Sorry for the off topic.

Buzz00

05-28-05, 12:06

Zos,

I am sure a good lock will do the trick as well, even on a duffel bag. There are small locks, ones that also are used for computers that have reinforced steel in them. I have had security people for example try to cut the lock of my bag and eventually had to get me to unlock it. I also use locks on my hand luggage. There is all kinds of shit that goes on in airports.

I am apt to believe that Corby had the drugs "dropped" in her bags and the Indo's are making an example of her.

I hope you Ozzi's boycott the Indo's, Corby does not desrve this.

Jaimito Cartero

05-28-05, 13:34

- Also I'd like to know a hotel in Seminyank, which is not expensive and girl friendly. I read that in Sanur Hesvastika can be a good option (I think from JC)

The Swastika Bungalows are okay, but I'd probably pick something else. For 1/2 the price, 1Ball found me a quiet little place (Agung and Sue's Watering Hole) a little bit away that I actually enjoyed more. (Quiet, and very nice staff).

I think it really depends on where you want to stay. I've tried near the action and further away. I've done the 5 star hotel, and the 100,000 rupiah per night place, and if I have to pay for it, I'll take the latter.

Domino

05-28-05, 13:59

This piece of white Australian trash, the daughter of a convicted drug smuggler, was caught red handed at Bali airport with high quality hash and got off with a relatively lenient 20 years; 9 other pieces of Ocker scum are awaiting trial for selling heroin. Hopefully, they will get the death penalty. Corby's conditions are no worse than anyone else's in that jail and her serious crime against the Indonesian people should not entitle her to preferential treatment. The old saying: if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. If you have tears to spare, maybe think of the 19 Indonesians bombed into eternity today. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4588975.stm). Pretty drug mules just make the scene worse for the rest of us.
Zos: enjoy your holidays and remember: always pack your own bags and never leave them out of your site. I try to use carry on as much as possible.

1Ball

05-28-05, 14:29

holy smuggling white trash, batman!!!

domino, i am near speechless. i actually agree with you. i need to go sit down with a cold compress on my forehead.

i have been following the stories of the bali 9 for a couple of months. indonesia takes drug smuggling very seriously, as does thailand, malaysia, and singapore.

remember midnight express? i am sure the jails in se asia are no better.

well put: "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime".

it seems the ozzies feel they should be entitled to a "get out of jail free card" due to their effort in the tsunami relief. bullshit to that. we are all the same, when it comes to us trying to smuggle drugs in or out of the country.

and now, due to the stupidity of a few fucking idiots, indonesia is going to suffer financially, as the ozzies are going to boycott indonesia in protest.

fucking hypocrites.

on the other hand, australians are not the most liked people in bali in the first place, so other than a few $$$ missing in the pockets of the locals, they will not be missed one bit.

Labadi

05-28-05, 15:21

Smoothy

05-28-05, 16:21

In 2 months I will be at Nusa Dua (in one of the big *****-hotels), unfortunately not alone. So I am looking for some action at daytime, even that it would be in Kuta.

Can anyone recommend me a location? By reading all posts, most are dealing with all-nighters, but I am looking for a girl just for 1-2 hours, whereever it may be.

I have a lot of experience with that in Africa - mostly easy to get good looking girls ins daytime. Now I have to learn the asian side. I am looking for your advice !My personal experience is that this is difficult to find in Bali. It's much easier in Jakarta. Maybe you can re-route to Jakarta? I always recommend to my friends that they avoid Bali if they are looking for that kind of thing. Or maybe someone else on here has had better luck than me in Bali?

I find it funny that you mention Africa. Every time I go to Africa, I have a girl meet me for a nooner at lunch on a daily basis.

Larry Flynt

05-28-05, 16:42

As an Australian I find all the generalising below quite amusing, I won't be boycotting Indonesia nor will any other Australian with any sense. I'm also a firm believer in "do the crime...do the time" and if you smuggle drugs into a country then you face that counties penalties. The Corby case has been a strange one and to be honest I still don't know where I stand on it as there's been so much conflicting evidence. I'm not sure if "daughter of a convicted drug smuggler" is an apt description for a man who got caught with a joint but I guess some people just get carried away.

I'm not defending those accused just thought that a few members seemed to be quick to throw us Australians to the wolves, I'm no drug smuggler nor will I be boycotting Indonesia and I know I'm not alone.

Ted Num

05-28-05, 16:43

Hi guys,

As I told you I'm coming to Bali on July. Is my first time in Indo and in Asia. Never have been in this continent. Thank you JC, Zos and Dorfor for your tips. I have to decide where I'm going to stay... it seems there is not a perfect location: Kuta area for nightlife is a busy place and Sanur seems too calmed. Well, I hope I'll take the right decision. Just would like to ask another question: has Ubud any nightlife or chance to meet nice girls or is just a cultural destination?

Thanks again

Ted Num

05-28-05, 16:50

Domino,

Nobody deserves death.

Domino

05-28-05, 17:09

Corby's family have a criminal history; is her half-brother Clinton Rose still banged up in a Queensland jail? Talking about going overboard: Zos tells us the Aussie papers give 5 pages to the "poor drug smuggler" and her "tragic" case is all over the TV there. Papa Corby's drug bust, like Rose's litany of criminal convictions is important because the Corbys repeatedly denied that any member of their family had a criminal history or was involved with the drug trade.

There are plenty of prisoners in Australia more deserving of your sympathy. These probably include the prisoners giving dubious evidence on her behalf. Australia getting on a high horse over her only damages the legitimate rights of all law abiding Australians overseas imho though ymmv.

I visit Thailand a lot and I really enjoyed The Damage Done: Twelve Years of Hell in a Bangkok Prison by Warren Fellows, another drug pushing Aussie; it still helps keep me on the straight and narrow. He said no one deserved to be treated like prisoners are in Thai jails. Maybe not. Best way to stay out of jail is not to break the laws of the sovereign country you are in. In fact, it might actually make more sense to give visitors harsher sentences to deter the shit. That way, the rest could better enjoy their holidays.

I hope you guys enjoy yours. Always pack your own bags.

Hi Domino,

I read "The Damage Done" several years ago. It's a sobering account.

However, I personally can't get enthuastic about sending anyone to prison for even a single day for marijuana.

Anyway, I believe that the reason many Australians are unsettled by the verdict is because they suspect that the trial wasn't conducted with the same respect for the defendant's rights as is common in Western countries, and additionally that the 20 year sentence simply doesn't fit the "crime".

Can you imangine, the Indonesians actually want to kill somebody for possessing marijuana.

Thanks,

Jackson

Scooter Piesky

05-28-05, 20:24

Oh-oh Domino...(and right-on Jackson),

I spent many many months in Bali --esp. Ubud--and also sailing and exploring around many of the small pirate-plagued spice Islands in the 70's and 80's and was always smoking marijuana in my Indon open homes and in local bars, etc.

When one considers the corruption, criminal pollution due to illegal logging and murderous central gov't /army treatment of indigenous tribal peoples throughout the Indon archipelago, this sentence of the Aussie beauty shop debutante for smuggling reminds me greatly of the riveting Aussie televison series many years ago on the same subject which starred Nicole Kidman--have any of you WSG'ers seen it?

Indonesia is one of the most vilely ruled states in the world and is falling apart due to the enormous weight of state-sanctioned kleptomania and religio-ethnic tensions. The Bali muslim terrorist bombing, in which many innocent Aussies died, is the heartfelt emotional backdrop to the swell of protests over Ms. Corby.

In the interests of protecting their daughter from further ill-treatment in prison, Ms Corby's parents have spoken out against the pro-Indon boycott backlash erupting in Australia and elswhere.

I say mongers--who according to Sharia laws in place in Indon could also receive death sentences for their behaviour and are almost routinely blackmailed by local authorities in what can only be termed ' ex-officio sexual shakedowns'--should also show solidarity and boycott all Indon tourist destinations with letters sent to the Indon ambassadors in their home countries.

Indonesia is a chaotic and cruel place: let's add our individual voices to the mistreatment of an individual who was at worst an unwitting mule.

As for Domino's slanderous representations about Ms Corby's family, well it's obvious she isn't from the uper crust but using unspecified slurs and misrepresenting Ms Corby's father's bust for owning a single joint of pot is the sort of crap Jackson ought to choose to erase from this board.

Shame on you Domino--I'm going to read up on some of your past posts to see whether a psychological patterns emerges of a self-righteous Aussie-gringa hating sex-slave mongering tourist run amok in third-world pseudo-paradises.

So, at risk of being flamed--Up yours Domino!

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"...Anyway, I believe that the reason many Australians are unsettled by the verdict is because they suspect that the trial wasn't conducted with the same respect for the defendant's rights as is common in Western countries, and additionally that the 20 year sentence simply doesn't fit the "crime".

Can you imangine, the Indonesians actually want to kill somebody for possessing marijuana.

Thanks,

Jackson"
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Scooter Piesky

05-28-05, 20:39

Given that Aussies are targets of much the same discrminatory treatment in the Muslim dominated Indon archipelago as Americans are elsewhere, I think Domino's slanderous posts about Ms. Corby's family's purported prior criminal activities are obscene and should be removed (as I have posted earlier without seeing my post being run).

I travelled and stayed in Bali and sailed around other parts of Indon in the 70's and 80's and often smoked reefer at home and in my homes or on board my sloop. Mongers ought to sign onto an Indon boycott--especially as under Sharia laws in place, they too could face death sentences or corporal punishment and long jail terms for their "illegal" deportment and are routinely the object of officially sancyioned corrupt sexual shakedowns by corrupt local officials.

'There but for the greace of God, etc.

BTW, can anyone out there remind me of the name of the Aussie TV drama series starring a then young Nicole Kidman portraying an Aussie girl in similar straits albeit, if memory serves, in Bangkok?

Hanqe

05-29-05, 06:02

Ubud is beautiful, especially outside the centre and along the rivers. Do not miss the gorgeous Blanco museum (close to the centre, above the river). Night life is quiet there are no local girls working - maybe you can find a tourist girl in one of many bars and coffee shops. No disco what I know and here, as in Bali in general, no go go bars. You can get massage in some places, but do not expect "happy ending". Most local girls, who enjoy seeing tourists, stay in Sanur. Good place for sleeping, eating and sex. It takes 15 minutes to go from Sanur to the Kuta area and 45 minutes to Ubud (by light motor bike). Do not forget International driver´s license. Have fun!

Hi guys,

As I told you I'm coming to Bali on July. Is my first time in Indo and in Asia. Never have been in this continent. Thank you JC, Zos and Dorfor for your tips. I have to decide where I'm going to stay... it seems there is not a perfect location: Kuta area for nightlife is a busy place and Sanur seems too calmed. Well, I hope I'll take the right decision. Just would like to ask another question: has Ubud any nightlife or chance to meet nice girls or is just a cultural destination?

Thanks again

Dorman

05-29-05, 06:18

I'm not going to adopt a holier than thou attitude here but frankly the Aussie response to this girl has astonished me. When you fill out your visa form, when you land the hostess warns you, when you collect your luggage there's a big sign: "Importing drugs into Indonesia is punishable by death", that clear enough for ya? Right now there are dozens of Indonesians and Nigerians on death row for this, it's the same in Thailand, Singapore and Malaysia. If this silly little trollop wanted to play in the drugs business she should have stayed at home.

Maybe she is innocent but it's just that every time I go Bali I see dozens of Aussie surfer bums zombified out of their minds but when some surfer is pinched with aload of gear in their board bags its's cries of "fit up" and the big bad Indonesians are blamed again. Frankly Bali would be improved immensely if these low lifes boycotted the place.

XXL

05-29-05, 08:39

I don't usually join such an off-topic discussion but I find this howling of the wolves upsetting.

A point I agree with is that saving Corby because she's good-looking and ignoring the others is wrong but overall I don't think anyone should do year-long sentences unless they've maimed or killed someone.

All the while some terrorists (like that Muslim cleric involved in the deadly Bali Bombing) keep getting very light sentences. When a big Earthquake hits Jakarta there will be millions of dead instead of only a few hundred thousand because buildings that were certified earthquake resistent will fall down into a rubble and do you think any of the contractors will be indicted? And so on and so forth ...

"Watch our luggage, shouldn't we?". I don't know about yours but on a flight my luggage is out of my sight from minute one of the journey and when it resurfaces it is too late to ckeck, let alone alter its content. If checked luggage were in the least secure Airlines wouldn't be in a constant fight with passengers because of luggage being lost, broken into or emptied of its valuables. Who would want to plant drugs into a stranger's luggage, asks the unknowing? Traffickers to start with: look up tourist's name/hotel on luggage - have drugs planted - have drugs retreived later by hotel staff or baggage-handling personel. Much easier and safer than smuggle it yourself. I bet it's being done all the time. If only our suitcases could speak.

On another note, we should know better than to applaud a policy of zero-tolerance for drugs because our own hobby of wh*re mongering - or at least some aspects of it, think for a while! - is in danger of becoming a target of precisely the same zero-tolerance policies. This is because the people who can't bear the thought of others getting high on a joint are the same breed as those who regard our hobby as evil.

Incidentally, did you know Indonesian (and Singaporan, and Malaysian) law provides for absurdly long sentences for anyone caught with pornography/nudity? Lucky they don't get serious about this and start probing our laptops and digital cams or we on this forum would soon meet in jail.

Domino

05-29-05, 09:19

I read "The Damage Done" several years ago. It's a sobering account. However, I personally can't get enthuastic about sending anyone to prison for even a single day for marijuana. Anyway, I believe that the reason many Australians are unsettled by the verdict is because they suspect that the trial wasn't conducted with the same respect for the defendant's rights as is common in Western countries, and additionally that the 20 year sentence simply doesn't fit the "crime". Can you imangine, the Indonesians actually want to kill somebody for possessing marijuana.
Thanks,

Jackson

1. I remember when Barlow and Chambers were topped in 1986. One of the Aussie papers carried photos of their naked corpses (a toe protruding). Little outcry.
2. Our opinions on dope are irrelevant. She was convicted in an Indonesian court and must pay the price Indonesia's system demands.
3. It is hypocritical having sympathy/a campaign for her and to ignore all the others, Nigerian drug mules included, who languish there.
4. If Australia wishes to protest against Indonesia's laws, it should take that up with the Indonesian government and present the case for leniency to all.
5. Corby's claim that the airport handlers slipped the dope into her bag defies common sense. Her backers argue there was a lot of smuggling going on at that time but, if that is the case, they would not mess around with the relatively small amount she was caught with. They were professional smugglers even if she was not.
6. Governments should not get on their high horses about those who break the law when overseas. The British were forever doing this whenever a female Briton is arrested overseas. Modern gunboat diplomacy.
7. The Damage Done is not only a sobering book; it is a bloody scary one. Think twice before making a wrong move.
8. I am sure a deal will be done for Corby. Be assured, however, that others will pay the price for her favored treatment. It might be you:)
9. Of course we are a target. And a bigger one if we deliberately rub the noses of our hosts in it as Ms Schapelle Leigh Corby's supporters have done.
10. If we accept the thesis that al checked in luggage can be freely doctored, then we better not travel. It seems a weak defense to me and, if it is a false defense, Corby should get another 20 on top.

Spitfire

05-29-05, 14:47

1. I remember when Barlow and Chambers were topped in 1986. One of the Aussie papers carried photos of their naked corpses (a toe protruding). Little outcry.
2. Our opinions on dope are irrelevant. She was convicted in an Indonesian court and must pay the price Indonesia's system demands.
3. It is hypocritical having sympathy/a campaign for her and to ignore all the others, Nigerian drug mules included, who languish there.
4. If Australia wishes to protest against Indonesia's laws, it should take that up with the Indonesian government and present the case for leniency to all.
5. Corby's claim that the airport handlers slipped the dope into her bag defies common sense. Her backers argue there was a lot of smuggling going on at that time but, if that is the case, they would not mess around with the relatively small amount she was caught with. They were professional smugglers even if she was not.
6. Governments should not get on their high horses about those who break the law when overseas. The British were forever doing this whenever a female Briton is arrested overseas. Modern gunboat diplomacy.
7. The Damage Done is not only a sobering book; it is a bloody scary one. Think twice before making a wrong move.
8. I am sure a deal will be done for Corby. Be assured, however, that others will pay the price for her favored treatment. It might be you:)
9. Of course we are a target. And a bigger one if we deliberately rub the noses of our hosts in it as Ms Schapelle Leigh Corby's supporters have done.
10. If we accept the thesis that al checked in luggage can be freely doctored, then we better not travel. It seems a weak defense to me and, if it is a false defense, Corby should get another 20 on top.

1. Weren't they hanged in Malaysia? I don't remember clearly.
2. Agree. Singapore has some tough laws as well, they shouldn't have yielded to US pressure in the Michael Fay case, IMHO.
3. I don't think it's hypocritical if one believes that Corby is innnocent.
4. Agree. Indonesia belongs to the Indonesians. One should not travel to other countries if you can't deal with their laws.
5. I don't know about the amounts in her bags, but baggage handlers at airports are definitely targets for drug rings. Article after article has been written about baggage handlers being involved in drug rings, theft etc. (not just Indo, but around the world). Always pack your own bag and always lock it. Not 100% foolproof but may make them go to someone else's bag. Better yet, only take a carry-on bag.
6. I'm not sure what I think about that statement. On one hand I think countries should stay out of each others business, but on the other hand I think international politics play a role in trumped up charges (sometimes).
7. Totally scary book.
8. She'll be home in an Ozzie jail (to serve out a reduced sentence) in a couple of months or so, after all the media furor dies down. All the pressure applied to the Indo authorities may have the opposite effect and delay any deal.
9. Agree, just know you're a target and act accordingly. Don't do stupid stuff and watch yourself.
10. Checked in luggage is extremely vulnerable. I personally travel with a carry-on bag as often as possible. Any checked baggage, I lock. I don't use luggage with outside pockets.

Domino

05-29-05, 15:39

1. Barlow and Chambers were topped in Malaysia, the first whitey Westerners to get suspended (in mid air) sentences there. The Aussie PM at the time made a big deal about it.
2. Nguyen Tuong Van is an Australian citizen from Melbourne currently on death row in Singapore (which has the highest/cap execution rate in the world. Because he is of Vietamese stock (ie not white) and male, he gets less publicity than Corby.
3. A professional smuggling ring involving a bunch of baggage handlers would not risk their business over a little ganja. Her story there does not hold up imho but ymmv.
4. Outside pockets in check in luggage: Good point, Spitfire. I will watch mine in the future.
5. Drive carefully gents.

XXL

05-29-05, 17:23

I remember once flying back into Germany from Cali, Colombia. My Samsonite suitcase had been officially searched in Paris and had a tag to it saying "Paris, transaction Nr ...". Nothing extraordinary with that, only my three-number code no longer worked and I couldn't open my suitcase any more. I complained to the German cops. A woman cop fiddled with the lock and set it back to "000" in less time that in takes to say Jack Robinson. Don't ask me how she did it but I swear it lasted no more than a few seconds and she wasn't using any special implement. When I expressed my amazement she confirmed those locks were very easy to pick and were not at all safe.

I propose we close this off-topic thread by passing the following resolution: "Should any WSG member land in an Indonesian jail, the other members undertake to take turns at bribing girls into his cell. Said jailed WSG member shall return the favour by writing jailsex reports for the forum".

Bierenwater

05-29-05, 18:35

Any body can PM me and give some phone numbers and/or email addresses from girls?

Hope to put some reports in for you guys with pics soon.

Dorman

05-30-05, 14:25

Hi XXL, I found your comments very interesting, not least because of the asinine remarks made by Sabbath in the Jakarta forum about you and your leisure interests, and I agree it little behoves us here to make judgements about other people's vices considering what we get up to! That's why I prefaced my remarks about not being holier than thou.

I think my main problem with this case is the hysteria it has aroused in Oz, does anyone believe if one of us was scooped for our activities (God forbid) the Aussie media would be jumping up and down in our defence? I imagine this girl will be quietly sent back home in a year or so's time when it's all died down.

Generally you make some very good points about luggage security and you really should be careful carrying anything through customs that you shouldn't have, after all it really isn't rocket science to get what you want when you get there now is it?

By the way mate, I thought of an old song title that you should send to Sabbath; "Is you Iis or is you Iisn't my baby?" D'ya like that?

Bakuhatsu

05-31-05, 18:47

Pussy Engineer

06-01-05, 08:53

Gentlemen.

To all those speaking of double standards, or speaking about 'respecting local laws', or suggesting acerbicly that 'she got what she deserves'...

I have but one question:

Isn't prostitution also considered "illegal" in Indonesia?

If it is, and the bulk of you tough talking anti drug mongers are flying to indonesia to sample the local hoochies, while poo poo'ing the girl who 'broke the law'...

Aren't you being hypocritical?

Red Cork

06-03-05, 02:40

domino , you are one very sick warped individual. get help! self righteous people are @#$%&*.ed

Larry Flynt

06-03-05, 15:31

Thanks Larry Flynt and Smoothy for your suggestions about Musro Music room etc.

Any suggestions for a girl friendly place in South Kuta area, not too far from Kartika/Musro and Hard Rock Cafe? Ideally up to 200,000.

For a girl friendly situation, do we have to book a double room or pay for an "extra bed"? Some hotel websites list an "extra bed" charge which I thought might be a way to get money out of us when we bring girls home.

I stayed at the Bali Hai hotel for a few days last trip which is directly across the road from Musro's and the Kartika. Rooms were nice with great air-con and I think set me back around 400,000 a night during peak season. I brought a girl back with me on a few occasions and kept getting stopped by security who commented on me bringing back company. I just slipped him a 20k note and the subject was never mentioned again so I don't see you having any problems. Most hotels don't have any issues about you bringing back a guest and if they do then they're more then likely looking for a small bribe.

For more affordable rooms try Poppies Lane etc as plenty of budget accomodation and it's close to all the action.

I can't see staff protesting if you planned on bringing a girl into a single bed room but it wouldn't be the most comfy scenario so I'd go for the double bed/room option ;)

Twister 2

06-07-05, 07:57

I'm a frequent visitor and just back from Bali. Ala Kent BrockmanI gotta give my 2 cents.

1. Is she guilty or innocent? I'm leaning towards the guilty myself

2. Her family definately showed bad form during the trial

3. Laws are laws, once a guilty verdict was delivered, she had to receive a sentence in line with Indo policy

4. This forum is not large enough to cover the pros and cons of marijuana legalisation and punishment for posession -

5. My 1 night in the kartika plaza resulted in massive bed bug act - avoid if possible, very average rooms for the price

6. Sanur is still the place to go for short term day time action - Jln danau Poso, see previous posts

7. No way am I boycotting the place - but fully support all low life yobs staying away in support of shapelle, might clean up kuta a bit (probably not enough)

Zos68

06-08-05, 00:57

Well Guys,

I arrived back in Aussyland 2 days ago. For those of you who have been following my story I'll cut a long story short and just say that I got her back here in the end.

Getting into Denpasar airport all went well but this was the first time ever that one of the customs guys has asked me to open my bags so he could do a search!! Obviously nothing bad in there but WTF!!

Spent 3 days in Kuta and I got my first Indo drivers licence. The taxi driver who took us into Denpasar knew people in the department so we went in through the back door, got served straight away and only cost 150000rp. They didn't ask any questions and didn't even ask to see my Australian drivers licence.

We then did the drive up to Java and stayed with her family for 3 days. Nice enough house but the toilet arrangements were interesting. Ever tried shitting in a river while trying to wash yourself? No wonder you don't want to drink the water.

Anyway we got engaged in a big Muslim cerimony. 18 old guys did the ritual with all the chanting and stuff. Sorry in I seem a bit "not serious" and I am going to have to learn what all that stuff means sooner rather than later. Had a big party afterwards with about 50 of the locals. At one point some guy from the army came by and tried to shake us down for 50000rp but the locals sorted that out.

Back to Kuta for one more night and then a flight out.

When anyone from Indonesia leaves the country it seems they have to do a Fiscal check. Basically this means you have to give the airport 1mil rp. The first I heard about it was after we got through airport departure tax and to customs.
The guy at customs seemed suprised when he looked at my passport and saw all the Indo stamps. Asked if I had a GF here and when I said Yeh thats her over there in the Indonesian line he gave me his name and phone number and said if I ever need a visa for longer than 30 days give him a call.

All went well after that until we got to Australia. This is where I get really shitty about that Corby girl. Guilty or innocent I don't care, what people believe or say about it I also don't care, but when it effects me personally because one stupid girl has a problem in Indonesia I get very angry.
The Australian government has tightened security at airports and anyone who looks non-anglo is getting grilled at immigration. Especially people from Indo. Since my GF's English is not that great I had to answer most of the questions. How did you get a Visa? Do you have any friends or relatives in Australia, ect, ect.
That was not the end of it.... We are in a hurry to get a connecting flight....Going through customs we have nothing to declare. I checked both my stuff and hers before leaving. Our gear goes through the x-ray machine and the people watching the screen say all is ok and we can go. Then some guy comes up and decides to search her stuff anyway!! Asking all the questions again. Did you pack your bags yourself? is this your signiture on the customs form? Do you know the contents of your bags. Could you please open it for me? All the while he is trying to put on a pair of rubber gloves!!! WTF

I have not posted any pics of my GF but this was just insane. She is very beautiful but at all of 5'2" and not speaking much English she could hardly be mistaken for a terrorist or drug runner. She stands out in a crowd big time and gets lost in a shopping mall.
Whatever the case, the most sinister thing in her bags was lipstick.
This Corby girl and the Australian media has no right to create an international incident of this scale. Any sympathy I had for her is now gone.

Sorry for the rant but it obviously pissed me off.

Cheers and Bintangs

zos

Jaimito Cartero

06-08-05, 03:19

I arrived back in Aussyland 2 days ago. For those of you who have been following my story I'll cut a long story short and just say that I got her back here in the end.

Congrats on getting her back. I hate to think what you spent on the big party and stuff. Hopefully you'll get to know each other better and not rush into anything. (Like giving her a credit card to go shopping at the mall! Don't do it!)

Teegee

06-08-05, 04:15

Welcome Home
Good advice from Jaimito.
Hope you get her into english classes before she falls pregnant.
Good luck

Dick Nasty

06-08-05, 08:15

Hi Zos68,

I feel for you, the things that is going on the Internet about Corby is blowing out of porportion. The public is damaging once that could have been ment.

Sorry to hear the problem that you and your wife, she must have been scared of all the things that happened.

I think the aussie govn't is trying to show Indonesian that they are getting tough on them. They are unhappy with corby and the only way they can take their.

Anyway, enjoy your time with her, sorry for the off topic.

DN

Zos68

06-13-05, 10:07

JC,

Before her parents would let me bring her to Australia they made it very clear that we had to be engaged. I guess this has a 3 fold benifit for them.

1. They save face if she does get pregnant. Although this would still be a problem it would be much less so.

2. They get to show the locals that she has scored a decent potential husband.

3. They get a very big party at their house.

As for costs for the whole thing...hmmm... 1mil for bintangs and the local brew. 1mil for food and the guys that did the ritual, 700k for photos. Her outfit and make-up are included in these costs.

Shopping for an engagement ring probably balances this in terms of most westerners. She chose the ring and after showing her a few rings with big rocks ( western tradition is 3 months salary) she said she did not like them and took a small gold band for about 700k.

I expect our wedding in 3 months will probably cost a lot more than this but its still in the range that it will not make much of a difference. I now have many friends in South Java and my Indonesian is getting much better.

The reason we didn't get married on the spot is because she had to meet my family in Australia first.

Thanks for the good luck wishes guys.

zos

Frankfurter

06-20-05, 04:08

Hi fellow hobbyists:

I need help here.

I still have one night in tranquil beautiful Ubud. I know that the action is somewhere else but somebody ever tried SEDONA massage? They advertise at the Tourist Office accross the palace with an image of two chicks in a bath tub and "Nice comforatle (sic!) double-room."

Any expertise?

Frankfurter

Bierenwater

06-20-05, 09:29

The place to go is Sanur,lots of Javanese chicks .In Kuta there are massage places with happy ending!If you wanna know more PM me.

Ice Raj

06-23-05, 08:39

Guys,

Will be in Kuta with a friend from 30/06/05 to 3/07/05.

Anyone for a beer? PM me.

Cheers,
Ice

KL Guy

06-24-05, 10:51

Hi Zos68,

Based on your posting the prices quoted to you are quite fair for Bali standard, in fact considered cheap to me (I repeat me on a personal basis). Anyway all the best and I hope the best turnout for the both of you!

Take care bro!

KL Guy

Bkktg

06-24-05, 19:33

Staying at the Westin Resort (ex-Sheraton Nusa Indah) this coming Sunday and Monday - any way to bring a girl there?

Would appreciate a quick reply. Thanks.

Larry Flynt

06-25-05, 17:29

Staying at the Westin Resort (ex-Sheraton Nusa Indah) this coming Sunday and Monday - any way to bring a girl there?

Would appreciate a quick reply. Thanks.

I don't know of any bali hotels that aren't considered girl friendly and if you do have any problems then slip security some money and there objections will go away. If your asking how to actually get a girl then just ask a taxi driver but I'm sure every second local will ask you if you need a girl or massage anyway so it shouldn't be a problem.

Guy In Seoul

06-25-05, 18:57

Zos68,

Cheers to you for getting it all done - I might want to do the same thing. But, correct me if I'm wrong, are you marrying the same girl that you wrote this about?

Either way,

GIS

Well it all seems pretty normal by Indo standards so far but I get an e-mail from her yesterday that was obviously meant for someone else (she told me she didn't have e-mail).

In the e-mail (which dates back several months) it shows how she has been scamming some guy called Peter from Holland with everything from the dead grandmother to the school costs!!

zos

Ice Raj

07-06-05, 09:12

Hi All,

Had a great time in Bali recently.

Stayed at Melasti Beach Bungalows in Kuta area. Whole day walking around, eating, , massage and drinks.

Nites at Bounty, Paddy's and Double 6. Got a nice chick on the 1st nite at Paddy's...RPH300/- ST but she stayed LT! She did everything and had a tight pussy! Excellent.

Also did the Sanur thingy and got an LT from Denpasar as well.

The booze, party and women were worth it and I am definitely going to get back there soon!

Cheers,
Ice

Don Chedi

07-06-05, 19:05

Hey,

Well, I am back also from my visit to Bali. It is defenitely not so difficult to find company, because they will find you. Especially if you are a man traveling alone. First night in Kuta, the taxi driver from the airport took me to a place somewhere nearby Sanur, and they introduced me to al lovely Javanes girl, Lisa. Price charge was 1.500.000 at first, know to bargain it down to 600.000. You've got to play it hard with those guys, even be ready to leave without anything bussiness, then they come down a lot. Good looking girl, and was in for a lot if you just let her do it her way. One great advantage, no shy behaviour with wrapped towels or anything like in Thailand. Next morning she had to leave a litle early, but left me het phone number. Because she was willing to come along with me to Padangbai. Picked her up later at the McDonalds crossroad.

At first she loved beeing uit of the crowds. But after a few days she became quit. The little town was too boring for her. Can imagine that; I was diving all day, en there is little to no entertaintment over there in the evenings. Took her out to the nearby batcave temple. She seemed to like that, but for the rest there is not mucht to do around here exept diving and surfing. Put her on the bus to Sanur, and promised to call her when I was done diving. Gave het a million for three days and nights, and she was happy with it.

Myself I stayed in Padangbai for about 10 days, had a good time diving, a few nasty incidents at normal touristic trips (the 'guides' at the Pura Besakih temple are a bunch of rats. If you don't want their service, for which they dare to ask 50 dollar or euro, then they come around you and with intimidating mob-style block you the way from walking through. Needed some parking-police interferance to let things calm down) and then it was time to travel back slowly back towards south. Stayed in Sanur for the last remaining days, little hotel called 'Bali Warma', very close to the McDonalds. Girl friendly for sure. I could call Lisa easy from the hotel counter. And if I didn't, they would have some offers if I wanted. Took it slowly, bacause Sanur feels hotter than Padangbai. Probably more influence from the sea and mountains over there. Went sightseeing a few times, the girl seemed to love that, but was not too keen on going out for a drink in the evenings. Even when I made clear to her she did not have to take alcoholics (muslim, you know).

Well, the whole 'romance' ended after a taxi pulled a trick on me about the price ("no, 20.000 was just for taking. I waited and brought you back, that's 200.000") and it became clear that she had something to do with that. Surprisingly, because alle the times she was alone in my hotelroom there was no question about disthrust for stealing or anything. But anyway, kicked her out, still gave het some money for the past days, but refused to pay the 'taxi money' what obviously pissed her off.
Still had 1,5 day to spend, got plenty of offers from drivers, bar owners, the hotel managers, etcetera, for other girls, did not take any.

For some additional info; a driver from a little travel agency assured me there are girls to be found in Padangbai. There should be a little bar and the end of the beach road,, where you could get 'services' from the waitress girls. Could not find the place. And there should be an underground night club in Candidasa. Agreed with the man to go there one time, but never got around. Maybe someone else who is in the area?

Rest me to thank those over here fore the practical and financial information.

Teegee

07-09-05, 08:42

Hi Chedi
Just to give you an idea.
A maid will ear about 600K rupia per months no holydays live in.
A shop assistant in Kuta would earn app. K900- 1.2m rupia a month for that she will have to work 6 days 10hours min 1 week holyday per year.
A ***** in Surabayas girly street will fuck and suck you for 70K, if she is lucky she might get half of that and may be gets a tip of K10 or K20rupia.
Good luck anyway

Smoothy

07-09-05, 12:35

TeeGee,

70,000 is way on the low end, and that's in a knock shop. I hate those places. Mama sans trying to force girls on you. No girl friend experience at all. Just a quick screw and out the door. And the quality of most of those girls is quite low.

You can actually find that kind of thing in Bali for as cheap as 25,000 rupiah if you want to wait in line behind a bunch of locals and aussie backbackers for your chance to get off a shot. At least you could 5 years ago.

Chedi, if you are looking for sex on a holiday, don't waste your time in Bali. Head straight to jakarta. If you want romantic surroundings and beaches, you go to Bali. But if you want pussy, you go to Jakarta. The quality is 10 times better and price cheaper. I always fly into Jakarta, spend a few days there until I find a nice girl. Then I fly her to Bali with me and shag her silly for a week. At the end of the vacation, give her around 500,000 for the week and she'll be happy. Many times they won't want anything, they just enjoy the holiday in Bali. But I find it best for my conscience to give them something.

Twister 2

07-11-05, 03:32

Well, its pretty obvious if you read through some of the forum posts what the going rate for a javanese fucktoy in Sanur is.

Just like reading blogs, reviews, reports for hotels/flights etc on the net, reading mongering reports will save you $ - if you can be bothered.

They must have seen mr chedi coming with an initial quote of 1.5 mill Rp. Good job on knocking them down to 600K but 1/2 that would probably have been OK.

Try to have an idea of the going rate for different places / quality of girls.

Agree on a price up front, I go for performance based deals letting them know in advance that a tip will be forthcoming for good service.

Dont overpay, but dont be a tightarse either - have fun

Sidhartha

07-12-05, 04:23

Smoothy, just to get a sense of what is possible, where do you usually meet these girls in Jakarta with whom you travel to Bali? For instance, can you tell us where you met the last two or three girls? This will give me at least a better idea of whether it is worth it flying to Jakarta first. Also, are these pros you are talking about, semi-pros or working girls? Thanks.

John Aldrich

07-12-05, 19:53

Any place in Jakarta where mongering is happening. In fact if you go back a few posts you will find one of our members here has mentioned about picking up Lusi from Maribaya and having taken her Bali. And any girl you pick up and if she shares her HP no with you means she wants to have a date with you again. Just ask her whether she wants to come to Bali or for that matter any part of Indonesia and show you around. Ask her once. And you will find she calling you up again and again till you show her the tickets.

I have picked up quite a few semi pro's myself and taken them all around. As late as last week I took one to Surabaya. Its easy to take a semi pro or a pro from a bar rather than a pro from a bordello. Because there is normally a a mamasan in the bordello whom you need to compensate and she needs to be convinced that the girl is safe with you. But the mongering places or even the malls are a good place to find travelling partners. Only thing is that in the malls you need to know how to stike the right girl. Just read some Bulai 69's posts and you will learn how to strike a girl in the mall.

Smoothy, just to get a sense of what is possible, where do you usually meet these girls in Jakarta with whom you travel to Bali? For instance, can you tell us where you met the last two or three girls? This will give me at least a better idea of whether it is worth it flying to Jakarta first. Also, are these pros you are talking about, semi-pros or working girls? Thanks.

Bulai69

07-12-05, 20:41

As John A says, just about any girl you pick up in JKT will snap your hand off. I suggest, if you have time, that you seek out 2 or 3 and check out their attitute rather than go for the first one you find. You need (I suggest) a girl in towards the middle of the 100% pro - respectable amateur spectrum because girls at either end of the spectrum are likely to cost you more in the long run.

Omega005

07-13-05, 15:31

Hi guys,

I am planning on visiting Bali sometime in September with 2 other friends. I will be there for 3 nights only. Travel agent said tht they can give me some 3 star hotel somewhere near Ubud (with a free 1/2 day Ubud hand-craft tour thrown in!! :) ). I would really appreciate it if you guys can help me out wit some of my queries I have:

1 - Is the standards of a 3-star hotel acceptable in Bali? Do you guys have any other recommendation?
2 - What are the Bars that I can visit in Bali (to pick up chicks)?
3 - What is the going rate like for hiring the services of a "girl" for a whole day thing? (something like Thailand)

Hey guys, thanks for taking time to answer!

Don Chedi

07-13-05, 18:54

As anywhere in the world, the sextrade is a bussiness where more money goes around than in any other common job. I don't care, that's the way it is.

For those who has read my little report a little better; I don't travel just for girls. Diving, culture, sightseeing, the relaxed feeling away from daily bussines, that's the most important. A girl is just a nice addition to that all. What would be there for me in Jakarta exept girls?

No complaints on the comments, everyone 's got his own thing, I just wanted to put my five cents in for telling that Bali has got it all, including girls. And although the bisniss is al little more hidden in comparising to Thailand or the Phillies, they are definitely not hard to find.

ProfDesigner

07-15-05, 12:20

Hi fellow Mongers, hey i have to ask the question what the heck have some of the tourists been doing in Bali... My God, I was there last week for a photoshoot and went to the usual place in Sanur and firstly the Boss man says 400,000 which I said no way its always 250,000 to 300,000 depending where you are... then when I am in the room and the girl says hey for an extra 400,000 she will do anything... I said no way and gave my usual 100,000 tip upfront (stupid me) and she slips on a condom starts blowing me and then wouldn't have sex she just wanted to give the blowjob for the money. Needless to say i wasn't happy. From there the next day was too busy to go back but Friday night I did and the Boss remembered me and said 300,000 which I was happy with, then the new girl tried the same thing, 300,000 for everything. I said 100,000 or I get the boss and she said ok and all was fine and to her credit gave a good service. The thing that really got me though was I finished a shoot with our photographer on Saturday morning round 3am at Double six and I decided to stay, just to relax after the hectic schedule. Well this gorgeous girl comes over and is chatting away when a big dutch guy comes up and whispers in my ear... she is really good but very expensive. I think ok lets findout so we are chatting, keeping in mind that it is about 4.30am and she says 1,000,000 for her to come back and be gone by 7am. I mean to say Guys something is happening in Bali. Some people are paying stupid prices and just stuffing up the complete market. I personally now am actually just going to bring a cute little one I found in Jakarta down for a million for 5 days. Whoever has stuffed up the system, shame on you.

I am back again in the first week of August we shall see if anything has changed by then.

1Ball

07-15-05, 14:24

Prof designer, I hate to say it, but you might be part of the problem. If you have spent some time in Bali in the past, and have gone to the various houses on Jl Danau Poso, you should know the going rate varies between 100,000 to 150,000 maximum. It is now high season however, and you might expect to pay a bit more, but no more than 200,000 at the very most, with 20,000 tip for the girl. AFTER YOU ARE DONE.

Go back several months, and read some very expansive and informative posts from Jaimito Cartero, it will show you where the best houses are.

Good luck in August, and don't get taken for a ride this time.

Hanqe

07-16-05, 00:40

Never pay more than 100.000 rp! Maybe some "extra" to the girl when you have finished. 20 000 is OK

Problem. If you have spent some time in Bali in the past, and have gone to the various houses on Jl Danau Poso, you should know the going rate varies between 100,000 to 150,000 maximum. It is now high season however, and you might expect to pay a bit more, but no more than 200,000 at the very most, with 20,000 tip for the girl. AFTER YOU ARE DONE.

Go back several months, and read some very expansive and informative posts from Jaimito Cartero, it will show you where the best houses are.

Good luck in August, and don't get taken for a ride this time.[/QUOTE]

ProfDesigner

07-16-05, 04:44

Thanks 1ball, I have always been very tight with my dollars in Bali and really only spend $250,000 in the quiet season for the best of the girls... I take on board what you say though. I think one of the main disadvantages is that I turn up, not able to speak much of the language and they see me as an easy target. I will go back in the forum to check out the better places even though I can say the past 4 times I had been to number 04x it had some of the best girls I had seen in the business. I will try to get a better price... the thing that I noticed even more so was that the girls in the room are asking for ridiculous amounts, which threw me a little. I mean to say if they give a good service, and believe me I expect a lot, then I dont mind tipping. Maybe I should hook up with a local monger to see what happens.

ProfDesigner

07-16-05, 04:56

I am going to be in Bali again the first week of August, if there are any fellow mongers around at the time PM me and we can meet for a beer and maybe I can learn more about this changed market.

Sidhartha

07-16-05, 21:55

1Ball

07-16-05, 22:05

Hanqe

07-18-05, 21:11

I am going to be in Bali again the first week of August, if there are any fellow mongers around at the time PM me and we can meet for a beer and maybe I can learn more about this changed market.Hi! I have stayed in Sanur abt 12 times and will be there first week in August 05. See you!

Hanqe

ProfDesigner

07-21-05, 01:31

Prof Designer, you did say Number 4X?
About where is this located after you turn in from the highway - right at the beginning or toward the end, and on the left or right (heading toward Sanur)? Any particular strong points at this house? Thanks.

Hi Sidhartha, its on the right towards the very end of the street. Used to have some of the best girls that I had seen for a while. I must admit this time the quality was down from the usual.

ProfDesigner

07-21-05, 01:33

Prof D, I am in Bali until August 1. if you get there B4 then, I can go nego with you in sanur, I speak the lingo, and they tend to not be so greedy when you can laugh with them in their own language.

Thanks Iball unfortuneately I will be there from the second... maybe next time, I am tending to go up to Bali evey month at the moment

1Ball

07-21-05, 03:18

Prof D, keep in touch,
I am in Bali every 5 weeks or so, for a couple of weeks. A long flight from the USA, but worth it.

if you are here every month, find a regular, I actually met a nice one the other night, larger than usual breasts, shaved pussy, BBBJ, talked a bit too much though. let me know if you want her digits. I am sure she also knows lots of other firends, who would love to take you on.

My balinese wife had to go to a cremation, and told me that I could do whatever i wanted, provided I used a condom.

Anyway, I digress. Bahasa Indonesia is a very easy language. you could have some nice female on your arm, and she could teach you the language. you will get around a lot easier, if you know 50 or 60 words.. She can even teach you how to pronounce them correctly, so that "thank you" doesn't sound like "tear out my car seat"

Dorman

07-21-05, 06:35

Jeez 1Ball, where do I get me a wife like yours, was she always this accommodating or did she require special training? C'mon mate let us in on the secret and some guys here might even consider getting married ourselves.

1Ball

07-21-05, 07:01

Doorman, indeed she is perfect. She is a typical Balinese, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, cooks for me, and loves to give me pleasure. She was very apologetic for having to leave me, and is also nonchalant about the fact that I might stray. As long as she doesn't see it happen, then it is OK.

She normally keeps me so busy, that I really have no desire to go out on her, though I have taken her to Bangkok a couple of times, and she is very well aware of what happens, when I go there alone. She just shrugs her shoulder, and says "tidak apa apa". as long as I come back to her.

so yes, life is good. :)

Dorman

07-22-05, 06:12

Good for you, you seem to have set up every man's dream. I always understood that you could not look for a better wife than an Indonesian woman; loyal, hardworking, pretty, good housekeeper, great with kids and loved sex. So if a wife is what you wanted they were perfect but for blokes like us it was a different story as they were also maniacally possessive and that if you so much as looked at another woman you could expect to wake up and find your manhood being removed with a blunt rusty razor!

But I am glad to see you have it well worked out, so let's see you have a loving sexy wife who allows you get a little bit extra discreetly on the side and all the time you are living in a beautiful tropical island paradise, if you believed in karma you'd have to believe that there's five hundred poor miserable bastards suffering somewhere in the world to compensate for your good fortune but like who cares?

ProfDesigner

07-22-05, 10:06

I will probably take you up on the offer 1ball, I find I am learning quite quickly and having a client there is basically forcing me to learn the language asap. If you could PM with the digits that would be appreciated and when we meet the Bintangs on me.

1Ball

07-23-05, 11:55

PD, I thought I would add to the PM I sent you earlier.

This girl is a pro, which means she lies about everything. I actually very much doubt she is Balinese, most probably Javanese, even though she calls herself Komang.

When I brought her to my house, she completely froze at the sight of my 5 dogs. Balinese Hindus like dogs, muslims despise them and fear them. I nearly had to carry her in, and kick the dogs out in the street. She was petrified.

My point is, she will lie to you about most things, but she might hook you up with someone less hardcore.

And she is a good fuck ;)

J Ride

07-26-05, 19:37

Hi guys, I'm going to Bali for the first time. I'd love to hear about some of the essentials from you all that have been there before. Don't worry, I plan to do some data mining to piece the plan together myself, but I would greatly appreciate your imput. Good girl-friendly hotels, good pick-up spots, best way to head from Dempesar, etc.

Thx!

Larry Flynt

07-27-05, 15:50

J Ride,

Glad to hear your heading to Bali and I'm sure you'll have a great time, I'm heading back there at the end of the year for a few weeks and can offer a few tips from previous trips.

I'd consider all the hotels over there girl friend and if the guards ever give you grief then just hand them 20,000 rupiah and they'll go away. If you're after a ST session then head to Sanur where you can find many brothels, just ask the taxi driver and he'll be able to point you in the right direction. Once you arrive the head guy will call over 8-15 girls and you can make your selection and head to a room. Prices are negotiable and I suggest you read the posts below to find the current rate. You can also take the girl back to your hotel room if you desire so discuss this with the pimp.

Freelance girls can be picked up from many of the major nightspots such as Paddy's and Double Six which again the taxi's will know. These girls aren't hard to spot and you can bring them back to the hotel for a ST/LT session. You'll often get approached by locals offering girls but I've never taken them up on the offer so can't vouch for how good or bad the girls are. There's also a massage parlour just outside of Kuta where a happy ending is offered but my experiences haven't involved anything more then a semi-nude handjob.

Drink up and have a good time and hit us up with a trip report when you return!

J Ride

07-28-05, 17:38

Good tips Flynt. I'm not really a massage parlor kind of guy though I've done my share. I like to see what I'm buying first so I don't like dealing with pimps. I'll definately have to check out the clubs and see what I can drag home. I'll definately do a trip report to let you guys know what came of it all.

Member #2924

08-03-05, 02:52

Ice Raj

08-03-05, 09:59

J Ride,

Hi, hope you have a good time there. Other than Paddy's and Double Six, another good pick-up place is Bounty's Disco. Excellent choices and very GFE. Prices are quite normal, if they start high negotiate them down.

Cheers,
Ice

Larry Flynt

08-03-05, 15:07

I'm planning to visit Bali soon. Can anyone tell me if the Hyatt Hotels are girl friendly? Do they have any bars that are worthwhile going to? What 5-star hotels are best for friendly attitudes plus bars with action?

Thanks in advance.

You should have no troubles getting girls into the Hyatt or any other hotel including the 5 star joints. I've stayed at the Kartika Plaza and Ramada Binrang both of which are pretty nice and had no issues with bringing back girls. The hotel bars aren't likely to have much action so head out to the clubs such as double six etc and you should be able to hook up with a girl and bring her back to the hotel.

World Citizen

08-05-05, 05:58

Larry Flynt

08-06-05, 14:16

Bulai69

08-06-05, 14:31

No problem getting girls in to Hyatt (or Hilton, Sheraton, Novotel), I've stayed at all of them - but you are unlikely to find any girls in there. It's not like the 5* hotels in Jakarta.

As far as free-bees are concerned, an Indonesian (bi-sexual) friend of mine had 2 japanese girls STD a few months ago, but I've no experience of that myself. STD by the way is a somewhat ironical acronym in Indo slang meaning "sex without paying" - "Sex Tanpa Di bayar"!

Jaimito Cartero

08-07-05, 15:22

Paddy's is always a blast and if you don't manage to seduce a backpacker then I guess there's the freelancers to fall back on!

I think I would refrain from saying that Paddy's was a *blast*, myself. Not trying to be PC or such, but it doesn't seem too appropriate.

Larry Flynt

08-08-05, 15:10

I think I would refrain from saying that Paddy's was a *blast*, myself. Not trying to be PC or such, but it doesn't seem too appropriate.

Sorry didn't even think of it that way and have edited my comments, thanks for pointing it out rather then flaming. Being Australian I find the subject of the event particularly tender and would never attempt to mock it.

Larry.

Dorman

08-09-05, 17:42

Don't go hunting the Japanese girls in Bali they're not interested in bules, it's a curious cultural thing with them. You have to understand how regimented life is in Japan, how a girl must go to college then meet a good salaryman husband marry him and settle down to a life of suburban dullness from then on in. If you think of the stereotypical 1950's western housewife you begin to get the picture.

However before they settle down they go to Bali, it's the number one tourist destination for single Japanese women, but they're not looking for white westerners, no they want the Balinese beach boys, the surf jockeys, and the browner they are the better, it's like a rebellion against their societal norms if you will. Actually it's not really that different from what most white western guys are doing. Come to think of it I believe you find the same situation with middle aged white women who go to beach resorts in Africa to meet big strapping beach gigolos to ease the pain of their post divorce settlements. See it's not just us evil men who indulge in this shameless past time.

On the subject of picking up drunk Aussie sheilas in Bali, I've said it before but why bother? It's not like you can't get them in Oz, it's like entering the finest Asian restaurant piled high with the most exotic foods and delicacies, flavoured with wondrous herbs and spices of the most fantastic subtlety and delight and ordering egg and chips!

Eagle Boy

08-09-05, 19:35

Can anyone out there in Happy land let me know of any massage spas/parlours in Bali where they give "extra service" ? Somewhere safe, where you won't get ripped off (if such a place exists).

Thanks

Larry Flynt

08-10-05, 15:12

Can anyone out there in Happy land let me know of any massage spas/parlours in Bali where they give "extra service" ? Somewhere safe, where you won't get ripped off (if such a place exists).

Thanks

G'Day Eagle Boy,

I suggest you visit "Kuta Bugar Massage" which is on the outskirts of Kuta, ask the hotel concierge or taxi driver to take you there as they should know the way or can find out. Before you pay the driver make sure you have the right place as often they'll try to take you to a brothel where they get a kickback.

When you walk in you'll see a glass screen to your left where about 12-15 girls sit around with numbers on them and you just indicate which you'd like. Then upstairs for the massage and the girl will ask if you want a happy ending and you then negotiate a price which should be in the 50-150k mark but that may have changed. Many of the girls are hot and the girl I saw agreed to take her shirt off at the end but not sure if they'll go any further.

It's worth a visit but for another hundred or so you could get full service at one of the many Sanur brothels.

Cheers,

Larry

Sidhartha

08-14-05, 16:25

As you say Larry, Kuta Bugar girls are expensive for what they offer. I used to stop there on my way back from Sanur - for those who haven't been there, you pass it on your way to Kuta. A 2-hour massage was great after all the hard work I had been doing in Sanur!
On another topic, what is the surest way of picking up girls to bring back to the hotel?
After reading the board, I seem to think that the girls who hang out at places like Bounty are very predatory.
It may be possible to pick up shop girls and such like, but it takes more time and is hit and miss.
I have asked Kuta Bugar girls - they ask a huge amount (one asked for US 150, I am not sure if she was joking).
So does anyone know of any other, reasonably certain and realistically priced, solution?
Thanks.

Eagle Boy

08-14-05, 18:51

Thanks Larry & Sidhartha,

Will the Kuta massage girls get naked in a bath, on the table, etc?

Any info on the Sanur places (price, location, etc..)

Thanks guys.

Larry Flynt

08-15-05, 12:35

The Kuta Bugar girls normally perform the massage clothed, I did convince my girl to lift her shirt but I think getting them naked will be pretty difficult as it's not exactly a private place as you can hear the couple next to you through the thin curtains. I still laugh recalling one of the girls pulling back a curtin on my way out to reveal a half naked man as she thought he was one of my friends!

Many people have posted about Sanur on this board so you might want to check some old posts but a taxi driver will be able to take you to one of the many brothels but don't forget to haggle with the pimps as they'll quote some ridiculous prices to start off.

Sidhartha, I also asked a Kuta Bugar girl back to my hotel and like you was quoted a ridiculous price so told her to forget about out as I think they're used to big tips. You could attempt to chat up some local girls at the shopping centre etc but I think it'd be to much work as they'd wanna go out on a date and you can bet they'd bring friends and we know who would foot the bill :)

If you're tired of the free lancers at the clubs I suggest hitting the sanur brothels and just telling the pimp you'd like to take the girl back to your hotel. I did this last trip and had a fantastic time and got the girls number and she turned up the next day for a repeat performance so this may be the way to go.

Jaimito Cartero

08-15-05, 17:09

It's worth a visit but for another hundred or so you could get full service at one of the many Sanur brothels.

There is also a Sanur massage place that I wrote about last year that costs about 50k, plus whatever you want to tip the girl. (I think I gave 50k for FS and she seemed super happy). You can check my reports from last August and September for the details. It's right in the area of the "X" houses.

Lovalova

08-16-05, 05:26

Guys,

Can you help me find the possibility of getting a nice milf white girl in Bali? Not Russians, etc. but perhaps european/aussie etc? I am sure such "products" exist. I would appreciate any help here. Horny for sexy white MILFs!

Thanks

Larry Flynt

08-16-05, 11:08

You could try chatting up some tourists in a club but if you can't get it back home from them then I'd say things won't change. I've never heard of white working girls in Bali as the returns would be much higher in there own countries and like Dorman said, why goto Bali to bone white chicks?

Bulai69

08-16-05, 17:58

Gampang - I have just one question: why?

1Ball

08-16-05, 18:16

Gampang, chances are the MILFs who are there on holiday, if they are looking for action, will be much more interested in hooking up with a young, strong, good loooking Indonesian man. So if you fall into that category, you should have no problem; otherwise, you might just find that MILFs are not available to you.

good luck

Guy In Seoul

08-21-05, 07:45

Sidhartha

08-21-05, 15:48

----- If you're tired of the free lancers at the clubs I suggest hitting the sanur brothels and just telling the pimp you'd like to take the girl back to your hotel. ------

Larry, just as a guideline, do you remember what you paid the pimp for the all-nighter? And how about the next day? If you still have the name/number (I guess you'd have to be in love to keep it so long!) can you IM me please?

Labadi

08-21-05, 17:28

Coming to Bali my first time I had some trouble to find my way. As I read a lot of stuff in this forum, I went to Sanur and Kuta (in daytime) , but this was quite a long trip (from Nusa Dua) through traffic jam sometimes. Sanur is a funny place and I had some action with 3 very different girls. The first at the Hotel Diyan Ayu was a stunner with a nice body, but she always discussed about money, which was quite boaring. So I fucked her and left without an extra money. The next at 3X was much better, willing to do anything. Even with my bad expecrience I had a third one at the Hotel Diyan Ayu one hour later. Her Name was Ayu: she was a very funny and nice girl, she liked sex as I do and we had a wonderfull time. As I remember she's like 23 years old, she has a wonderfull body and a lot of power. I took some fotos, but she asked me not to publish them.

Only one short message in this forum gave me the information about cathouses on the bypass to Nusa Dua. They a easy to find: On the way to Nusa Dua (about 2 km before the main gate) you will find a large Yamaha-sign. Take the small road just on the right side for another 300 m and you will find some huts, very simple places with a lot of girls (most not very beautiful) even in day time. You will hardly find someone speaking english, but with some smile and gesticulation you will get what you want. I found Ana, a passionate woman, who obvuoisly liked what she did (without BBBJ, but she does it if you ask her). You have to pay 50.000 R (native will pay 30.000) for a ST in a dark and stuffy room. So if you don't mind, you will have fun for a very small money. If you expect a clean room you definitly have to look for other places.

Once, coming in the evening, Ana was just leaving on her motorcycle. As she saw that I was on my way to her she smiled, took a turn and gave me a wonderfull time. She's really special, even that you can't communicate with her through any foreign langauge and that her body shows some signs of age and pregnancy. I would prefer her to any other women I met on Bali. Beauty is fine, but passion is more (IMHO).

If any other will go there, please let me (and the others) know.

Larry Flynt

08-22-05, 15:43

Sidhartha,

I honestly can't recall how much I paid but do remember the pimp asking for a ridiculous amount and refusing to budge. I called his bluff and hopped back in my taxi and he came over and agreed on my price. ST prices when I was there were a 150-200 so I'm guessing 350-450k would be adequate for all night but some other mongers might have a more accurate figure. Also don't discuss your plans with the taxi driver to much as many of them attempt to get some idea how much you pay back home and reason that you'd pay that in Bali and fill the pimp in while promising to "get you a great deal".

I do actually have the girls number still lurking in my mobile but I don't plan on calling her nor would I advise you calling her, she was the jealous type and insisted on listening in on my phonecalls to make sure I wasn't chatting to girls. Plus she liked money a bit to much so I ditched her and chatted up some girl at Kartika plaza who was more then happy to check out my hotel room.

Let us know how ya go!

1Ball

08-22-05, 21:57

Prof Designer + 1Ball,

Hello,

I'm very interested in the Bali pages and I've been reading them for some time. Thanks to all of you for your info.

Prof Designer,

As you are lucky enough to be receiving 1Ball's assistance, I know that we'd all appreciate a report on what you learn - because I'm sure that your perspective is probably closer to the rest of our's and it would be interesting to find what you learn from 1Ball. It can be like a crash-training for all of the rest of us.

And thanks go out to 1Ball for the info and guidance.

Peace,

GIS

Guy in Seoul,

Thank you for your kind words. I too, am waiting breathlessly for Prof Designer's report. I did get a PM from him telling me he had hooked up with the lady in question, but no details.

So, PD, if you are reading this, please, we are all waiting to find out how your trip to Bali is going.

BTW, I will be back in Bali on Sept 1.

Jed Wordsmith

08-24-05, 10:13

A quick report:

Was in Bali a couple of weekends ago. M-Bar-Go (where Paddy's used to be in Kuta) has quite a few freelancers. Action starts around 23:00-midnight, and goes on until around 2.30-3, when most people move on to the double-six disco (which opens until eight am).

Picked up a FL named Lina. Face was average (5/10); body was slim with small tits, but tight and toned- she teaches an aerobics class part-time. She was amazing in bed; started cumming almost as soon as we began, and kept cumming all the way through. She orgasmed five or six times within the first hour, and while she's going she'll let you do absolutely anything you like.

By the end of the first hour I had two fingers in her ass, one in her pussy and my thumb on her clit while she gave me a BBBJ/CIM.

Worth trying if you want a good time but aren't particular about looks. Very GFE. Sorry no pics; was too busy doing what I was doing. But I have her number - PM me if anybody needs it.

Cheronimo

08-29-05, 18:03

Hi,

I'm in Bali from now on for 1 month. If anyone is interesting too meet, first bear on me! I stay in Kuta, it’s my 2 time in Bali.

Regards.

Tanky

08-29-05, 18:21

I was in Bali recently, and as usual somehow will end up on a trip by Taxi looking for some quick entertainment.

Taxi driver took me to Diyan Ayu first, but it was quite late, so only the not so good looking ones are around. Anyway, he took me to a few other places, in the end stop @ X1. Was taken back to some backyard and unfinished building, i believe, which has a hole in the wall for us to walk pass just to end up in the back of some building. And there were lots of girls there, just sitting around waiting. I picked one by the name of Tias, sound like Javanese Indo, anyway didn't talk much, maybe shy. But her body was tight, Bcup, short (it's ok), and look is around 7. She took me to a little empty bungalow, and did the deed. She has one powerful suction when BJ, a very very good one. Keep me thinking about it up to now.

Tingle Tree

08-31-05, 12:29

Just back from Bali for my annual relaxation including a week in Sanur.

Given family obligations, I was not able to get out at night so I had to use my afternoons to good effect.

I found 11X open each day -- even in the morning. They would bring two girls and I could select one. One day I was able to work through three delightful ladies. The sweetest was Nita, a lovely girl from Surabuya.

The boss quotes R150,000 which was up from last year when I paid R120,000. I wasn't about to hassle over $3. I also always generously tipped the girls as they deserve it.

Be sure to bring your own condoms!

TT

Badboy6910

08-31-05, 15:30

Can anyone tell me where 1X is?

I will be staying at the Kartika Plaza.

Thanks

Tanky

09-02-05, 04:43

It's in Sanur, I think around 30 minutes drives. Just hop into taxi, and ask them to take you there. Be careful though, government is doing a heavy crackdown in prostitution at the moment.

Thanks.

Can anyone tell me where 1X is?

I will be staying at the Kartika Plaza.

Thanks

Badboy6910

09-02-05, 13:11

Sidhartha

09-05-05, 03:34

Well, here I am, with a somwhat mixed report. First 11X. Last time I was here (last year) 11X provided the best pickings - though I admit my selection plate wasn't all that big. This time it was a bust. I think some members have noted that 11X wasn't all that great recently, but I decided to give it a try anyway. The price agreed upon was the same as last year - 150000. And the man returned with one woman. She was just borderline - but I decided to go ahead anyway, which was a disappointment. With clothes off she was a definite no-no, with a not too great body, and a hip scar from - I am guessing - a motorcycle accident. I think the same accident left her unable to stand doggy for too long. Anyway, I got through it and decided I wasn't going to go back there.
Next was Kuta Bugar for a massage. This too has changed. Last time I was there it had a fixed price, with a board that announced it. Unfortunately I do not remember what the price was - I am guessing it wasn't more than 60-70000 for two hours. This time it was car salesman like situation - with a number of salesgirls descending. One quoted 60000 for an hour - which seemed too high to me. Not remembering what I paid last time (can someone please remind me what a fair price is?) I suggested 100000 for two hours, which she accepted. The massage wa so-so, not as good as a decent Thai massage. But to my bones, in pain from 20 hours in a metal tube, it was heaven. All Kuta Bugar girls try to make extra money with a happy ending. This one wanted 200000 for a BJ, which I politely declined. Then she settled on 50000 for a HJ. That wasn't bad, because I would have tipped her close to that anyway.
Anyway, not a great situation, so far. Unfortunately I wont have time to investigate much, because I am headed inland, where such things dont exist or are rudimentary. I am hoping to be able to find a good massage place anyway.

Jijjy

09-05-05, 20:39

Not remembering what I paid last time (can someone please remind me what a fair price is?) I suggested 100000 for two hours, which she accepted. The massage wa so-so, not as good as a decent Thai massage. But to my bones, in pain from 20 hours in a metal tube, it was heaven. All Kuta Bugar girls try to make extra money with a happy ending. This one wanted 200000 for a BJ, which I politely declined. Then she settled on 50000 for a HJ. That wasn't bad, because I would have tipped her close to that anyway.

Sidhartha - I was last there about 6 months ago and noticed that they upped the price while I was staying there. Lat I recall it was about 40,000 per hour. If you got a 50,000 HJ, then I'd consider myself lucky. I live there half the year and think that's a pretty good deal. My fav's are #'s 6, 20 and 26. I'll be there next week and see what prices they quote me. Usually it's the same for everyone. This is the place my local friends referred me to, so I imagine that it's one of the best prices around.

JF

DJ Monger

09-06-05, 04:30

What about all those cute backpackergirls from all over the world and the hot australian surfchicks? Has anybody been succesful scoring with any of them?

I have been to cambodia last months and met some japanese backpacking hotties who were more than willing to share a room ( and the bed) with me for a couple of nights. I assume there must be a lot of potential in Bali?

I've hooked up with a japanese girls in bali once, so it's possible. But i spent so much going halvesies on drinks over the course of the 3 days it took to get her into bed (actually in a chair in the wedding chapel at the bali hilton at 3am!) i could have paid a FL for 3 all-nighters. It was worth it for the experience and the ego boost, but obviously not cost effective. Plus one time i spent at least as much *almost* hooking up with a very sexy japanese girl, who seemed very game, but declined at the last minute! Which is just the reality of the dating scene, isn't it.

I also hooked up with some other tourist girls here and there, but given how easy it is to meet local girls (p4p or otherwise) I rarely make the effort. the funny thing about hooking up with the tourists in bali is the gigolo factor - in thailand and cambodia, I found that most girls simply weren't interested in the local guys, while the guys were all too interested in the local women, giving us a bit of a numerical advantage when it came to picking up fellow tourists. Whereas indo guys seem to do pretty well with the foreign women in bali, its a bit of an industry. which evens things up a bit, unfortunately! Still, there are always loads of tourist chicks looking for a bit of holiday fun, so if you're any good with the ladies its always a possibilty.

gampang, I actually did meet a total milf yesterday, she seemed extremely interested, so i dont suppose they *all* are looking for young indonesian dudes (though yes a lot of them are) Unfortunately i had to go to work an hour after i met her so i couldnt stick around to see what developed. anyway it wasn't any sort of p4p scenario if thats what you're looking for, i've never seen anything like that in bali.

Tanky

09-07-05, 01:47

There is another place called 'Griya Bugar' or something like that. on the freeway side to Nusa Dua. I didn;t have time to visit, but from outside it looks like Kuta Bugar scheme.

Tank.

Not remembering what I paid last time (can someone please remind me what a fair price is?) I suggested 100000 for two hours, which she accepted. The massage wa so-so, not as good as a decent Thai massage. But to my bones, in pain from 20 hours in a metal tube, it was heaven. All Kuta Bugar girls try to make extra money with a happy ending. This one wanted 200000 for a BJ, which I politely declined. Then she settled on 50000 for a HJ. That wasn't bad, because I would have tipped her close to that anyway.

Sidhartha - I was last there about 6 months ago and noticed that they upped the price while I was staying there. Lat I recall it was about 40,000 per hour. If you got a 50,000 HJ, then I'd consider myself lucky. I live there half the year and think that's a pretty good deal. My fav's are #'s 6, 20 and 26. I'll be there next week and see what prices they quote me. Usually it's the same for everyone. This is the place my local friends referred me to, so I imagine that it's one of the best prices around.

JF

World Citizen

09-07-05, 10:47

Thanks for your report DJ Monger. I will come to Bali later this year and of course try the local fruits. But as you mentioned; girls which you have to seduce offer a much bigger pleasure to me as those which I pay (directly) for their services.
And I have experienced myself that Japanese girls on holiday in Asia are a quite easy target; I usually concentrate my efforts on those travelling in a group. If you hit two or more jap girls travelling together, they are usually an easy lay.
Any info which hotels in Bali are preferred by Japanese?

DJ Monger

09-07-05, 15:13

If you're tired of the free lancers at the clubs I suggest hitting the sanur brothels and just telling the pimp you'd like to take the girl back to your hotel.

Larry, just as a guideline, do you remember what you paid the pimp for the all-nighter? And how about the next day? If you still have the name/number (I guess you'd have to be in love to keep it so long!) can you IM me please?I've been paying 700,000rp for roughly 20 hours - pickup direct from the source at 101x in the afternoon, bring back around lunchtime the next day. despite the slight markup it's not a bad option compared to picking up a freelancer at a club when you think about it. i usually wind up hooking up with the FL after midnight, then pay 500,000rp to keep her till about 7am, when i have to wake up enough to call her a taxi. plus you get some nice ones but i've been surprised with the amount of bad attitude i've been getting from FL's lately. the danu posa (sp?) girls, on the other hand, tend to all give good-to-excellent service, and on an overnight gig they usually put in a little extra effort, cause they're kinda happy they dont have to service like 7 guys to make their quota. plus you dont have to wake up so early.

Make sure you pin down the price and times before you take her out though, obviously - it's not the most common practice in that area.

DJ Monger

09-08-05, 09:14

And I have experienced myself that Japanese girls on holiday in Asia are a quite easy target; I usually concentrate my efforts on those travelling in a group. If you hit two or more jap girls travelling together, they are usually an easy lay.

Any info which hotels in Bali are preferred by Japanese?No particular info on which hotels are preferred - one pair i met were sharing a room at the hilton, one pair was staying at some little hotel tucked away in the back alleys of kuta. there are always lots of japanese girls hanging out at apache reggae bar, but they tend to go there for the 5 indonesian surferboys to 1 japanese girl ratio, so i usually give it a miss. hard rock cafe usually seems to attract a handful of japanese girls every night, and it costs 40000rp to get in so that keeps out the broke beachboys...

Do you speak japanese? i find my lack of it to be the biggest hinderance to regular hookups with japanese babes. It wouldn't take much i rekon, once you've established each others names and made arrangements to go somewhere, i get the impression their curiosity to "sample another cuisine" in their 5 days of yearly vacation outweighs their need for stimulating conversation... i should take some lessons.

Sidhartha

09-12-05, 04:29

As expected, I didn't have any mongering luck outside Kuta - but I didn't try either.
I didn't have much time on my return to Kuta. Besides, the reports of official crackdowns on mongering had me a little nervous. So I headed to Kuta Bugar instead, and I needed a genuine massage.
This time the rate quoted me was 150000 for two hours. On hearing this I moaned and bitched mightily, informing them that I had paid 80000 for two hours on an earlier occasion. My bitter complaints must have worked, or maybe it was because I was the first customer, but the counter staff told me to go away and return in five minutes - but not in a taxi. They have to pay commission to taxis, they said, even if it wasn't the taxi driver whose idea it was to come to Kuta Bugar. I walked off, looked at some paintings, and tried to memorize the name of the restaurant next door so that I could ask to go there next time - however, I have forgotten the name.
When I entered again after five minutes or so, the price had dropped to 80000 for two hours, which pleased me. That was more like the prices I used to pay last year.
The girl I selected was fairly good at massage, which was what I wanted. However, she wouldn't give a BJ when I asked. So I ended up with a nice HJ, for an agreed upon 60000. I gave her 10000 more.
She did try to end the massage after 90 minutes, whereupon I looked at my watch and growled. She apologized and gave me more time, saying her watch was broken.
I noticed there were many more girls than last year on the street asking if I wanted a massage. Most of them also offered a 'young girl'. I never took one up, though I suppose I should have, for research purposes if nothing else.

1Ball

09-12-05, 12:05

Frank Africa

09-12-05, 16:55

so i headed to kuta bugar...

the counter staff told me to go away and return in five minutes - but not in a taxi. they have to pay commission to taxis, they said, even if it wasn't the taxi driver whose idea it was to come to kuta bugar...when i entered again after five minutes or so, the price had dropped to 80000 for two hours, which pleased me.

i noticed there were many more girls than last year on the street asking if i wanted a massage. most of them also offered a 'young girl'. i never took one up, though i suppose i should have, for research purposes if nothing else.
thanks for the info about taxis and commissions at kuta bugar - worth remembering.

i'm of two minds about doing research into the "young girls." while i would be curious to see what "young" really meant - 18? or considerably younger? - there's not much point in doing so since i personally would never partake of an **** girl - both for legal and moral/ethical reasons. besides, there are tons of legal-age girls available, so why bother?

also, i'm worried that it might turn out to be some sort of a sting, or a news organization or human rights group with a hidden camera, trying to prove that lots of guys want to be with young girls. a couple of years ago, one of the major television news organizations (either nbc's dateline or cbs' 60 minutes) sent a reporter with a hidden camera to cambodia and filmed a 50-ish american guy who bragged to the reporter about his fun times with a 14 year old. even if i had no intention of ever doing anything with an **** girl, i'd look awfully guilty saying to the hidden camera "a young girl? sure, let's go check her out."

DJ Monger

09-12-05, 20:41

DJ Monger, I have been reading you on the Thai board. IMO, you are not giving it enough of a chance. What you are trying to do is incredibly difficult, especially in the time frame you are talking about.

I live part time in Bali, spending about 5 months, spread out over the course of the year. I have a Balinese wife. (Note I said Balinese, not Indonesian), as I am sure you know the difference. I know for a fact she is faithful to me, there are ways of knowing. Interesting to hear, but you'd have to do a lot to convince me! Several of the Indonesian girls I've dated didn't speak a word of english, only one of them had p4p experience (as I found out a few weeks into the relationship, and I have to say it showed). A negara kampung girl, a balinese dancer husband-hunting, mid-twenties college chick, a dangdut singer chick, a dancer on tv (ok maybe the last 2 weren't so surprising but) all of them cheated at the drop of a hat. As you say there are ways of knowing. and I've got loads of local friends, girls and guys, and it's just something I've noticed, Indonesians get around quite a bit, and seem to think nothing of it, regardless of their marital status.

Going to Thailand to find a wife, in order to bring her here is IMHO, a bad idea. Since you live here, you know how clicky the locals can be, she will be miserable, the culture, the food, my God, THE FOOD!!!. Don't tell me she'll be happy going to that crappy Thai restaurant in Kuta once a week.I'll try to find one that can cook! And the expats would be (a little) less clicky than the balinese. And I've got a large base of Javanese friends who I suspect would be more welcoming than your typical balinese villager. That said, yes, this is a major concern for me as far as this oddball scheme goes - could a Thai girl be happy in Bali? I think it could depend on a lot of things, but you're right, Thai girls tend to Love thailand.

I tell you, maybe the girls you have been with are too westernized. When I met my girl 5 years ago, her English was very poor, she didn't and still doesn't drink or smoke, she has never seen the inside of a disco, would much prefer to be home watching "Marina", than being out.Dude you're describing my last triple-timing high-maintenance Balinese girlfriend to a Tee! Though mine was a Denpasar girl rather than from the Kampung. But I did date a Kampung girl for a while.

Find a real local girl, who still has old fashioned values, and you will be rewarded to no measure. My wife worships the ground I walk on, and only wants to please me and make me happy..Really? I've dated girls from all over and in my limited but not negligable experience Indonesian girls are just *not* into that whole asian girl treating-your-man-like-a-king thing. Though I admit I've mostly been dating sassy educated/working types. But again it's not something I see my friends, local or expat, getting from their Indonesian girlfriends much either. Maybe I'm hanging with the wrong crowd!

Anyway, regardless, the *main* problem with bali girls is the whole who-gets-everything-in-indonesia-when-it-crashes-and-burns thing. i dont want to sound cynical, but if you ask me, when presented the opportunity to kick their husband out on their ass and take everything, about 50% of all the women in the world will eventually say "f*ck you and the secretary you rode in on!" Its just human nature - sooner or later all women get fed up with their man, if its too easy for them to take the money and run, a significant portion of them will. Better to hedge your bet by keeping everything in your name, which sure as hell aint gonna happen if you marry a local!

Sorry if I sound cynical, but I must say its something I see over and over again, and far from seldom here in Bali.

Maybe I'm just lucky. I found 1 in a million, treat her as such, as she does me.Sounds nice dude! How'd you meet her? Maybe I'm going about this in the wrong way or something.

1Ball

09-13-05, 01:07

DJ, I met her in Sanur, in front of a small satay stand. it was 9.00 PM, she was walking home from her shop. (she has a small souvenir shop on Jl Tamblingan, though now of course, she only goes there when I am out of town, as something to do.) she bought some food, I bought some food, she told me she had a shop, I told her I would stop by, etc...

she had never gone to a bule restaurant, and had 1 BF before me. it took me 7 dinners to get as much as a kiss from her. ( I am not emphasizing the dinners, but the time it took). I then left for 2 months, we talked on the phone many times, and then, when I returned, we slept together. She was very very bad at sex, your basic starfish, and when I went down on her, she freaked a little, saying it wasn't normal to do that. Now of course, things are vastly different, BBBJCIM is the norm.

even though she was born here, she grew up in Sumatra in a very small village, working in the rice. She moved back here at the age of 18, and I met her when she was 24. She lived in a small room above the photo shop, a cold bucket of water for a shower. Now she lives in a 3 bedroom blue style house, with a swimming pool, a gardener and a pimbantu, though she is still the same girl.

in regards to losing everything, we rent the house. the bank account is in her name, I just tell her when I need money, she goes to the bank and gets it. But you can't own real estate anyway, so buy it in the name of a trustworthy friend, and she can't take it. insofar as your business, if you own a business in Bali, which I do, I export everything, and get paid in US$ in another country.

I actually asked her, after reading your situation in the LOS thread, if any girls from her kampung are single, but all of them over the age of 20 are married. You'll find someone, you're just "looking for love in all the wrong places"

good luck.

Jaimito Cartero

09-13-05, 03:08

I think it just goes to show you that you can find someone nice if you put some effort into it. I've met 1ball's lady and she was very cordial and nice to talk with.

1Ball

09-13-05, 10:30

DJ Monger, this must be serendipity. No bullshit, I met a girl today who fits the description. she is the kind of girl I would consider if I were looking. She is from Java, 25, never married, doesn't drink, smoke, go to discos, goes home every night. Not the most beautiful, but attractive, with one of those wonderful tiny little bodies, and a nice smile. Her English is fairly good, as she works in a tourist shop, but I would think living here, you are pretty fluent in Bahasa.

I asked her if she would be open to meeting a bule, and she smiled, obviously "malu". So who knows. Now, how do you get her to go out with you, I have no clue. that my friend, is "terserah".

I have PM'd you her details, as to where she works, and how you can find her.

let me know, or let us know if it works out.

I should add, as I read what I just wrote, that if you are looking for a girl who belongs on the cover of a magazine, then you are going to get what you have been getting. A little less flamboyant, a little less wordly, a lot less make up, if any at all, is, IMO what you need if you are trying to fit the criteria you mention.

Mighty Spearsman

09-14-05, 16:35

Reading all the recent posts here reminds me of an old joke:

A guy walking along the beach finds a magic lantern lying in the sand. He rubs it and a genie pops out and offers to grant the guy's wish.

"Great," said the guy. "I want a girl who can cook. A girl who's gorgeous-looking. A girl who's fantastic in bed."

"Anything else?" asks the genie.

"Yeah, I don't want any of them to ever find out about each other."

Sidhartha

09-15-05, 02:35

in response to frank africa, frankie, every girl offered to you will be a 'young' girl, no matter what her age is. so, if you want to do some research don't worry too much about the **** issue - the girl will more likely be in her mid to late 20s, or older.
besides, i think i read here that the age of consent in indonesia is 16. you are unlikely to get a girl younger than that without making special efforts.

Dorman

09-16-05, 04:04

i don't think 1ball and dj need worry too much about being screwed in the financial sense by indonesian wives. yes you cannot own anything in your name it must be in hers but as her husband you are automatically half owner of any of her property and vice versa in indonesian law. the obvious thing is to keep all your main assets out of the country and just buy a reasonable house and standard car for both your use, if it all turns bad you have limited your loss to 50% of these assets, it's not like in the west where she gets everything plus 20%. now unless you're really clobbering the bejaysus out of her every night then no indonesian woman is going to divorce you just to get that, the loss of face in losing her husband and the fact that she's going to end up in a substantially smaller house and a cheaper car will dissuade her. in the meantime keep her in a financially secure manner and she ain't gonna go anywhere.

with the regard to the **** thing, with the exception of the poofs who are messing with boys somewhere else in the island i'm pretty sure there's no **** activity in bali, it has certainly never featured on the radar so you can monger in safety.

DJ Monger

09-16-05, 07:47

Yes you cannot own anything in your name it must be in hers but as her husband you are automatically half owner of any of her property and vice versa in Indonesian law. The obvious thing is to keep all your main assets out of the country and just buy a reasonable house and standard car for both your use, if it all turns bad you have limited your loss to 50% of these assets, it's not like in the west where she gets everything plus 20%.Yes, but does it usually turn out like that? Seems like I've looked at more than one big, recently completed house, being rented out by a very happy looking, recently divorced balinese woman.

Anyway, really I agree with your advice - if you were to keep most of your assets outside of indonesia you'd probably be much, much safer. However, due to my particular circumstances, I rekon a large portion of mine would unavoidably be here not overseas.

1Ball

09-16-05, 14:46

Yes, but does it usually turn out like that? Seems like I've looked at more than one big, recently completed house, being rented out by a very happy looking, recently divorced balinese woman.

DJ, that may be the case, but as you and I have discussed, what kind of Balinese woman is she? smoking, drinking, tattoo in the small of her back? That is not a "real" Balinese, and you know it.

You have to give in somewhere. Either you want the party girl, hair done perfect, make up, dancing until 5.00 AM, and yes, she will fuck around on you, or you want a "real" Balinese, who values family above anything else. As Doorman says below, she is not going to risk losing face over the opportunity of getting the house. A smart girl, whom you treat correctly with respect, and whom you love, will worship the ground you walk on. I don't have to lift a finger at my house. Yes we have a pembantu, but we are early risers, and she doesn't show up until 8.00 AM. By that time, I have had my cup of tea brought to me in bed, my back scratched, sex if I want it, and she has gone off to the morning market to buy some fresh fish or squid to grill for breakfast.
This is not someone who stays up until the wee hours of the morning. Her goal in life is to make me happy, and I appreciate her to no end. She can show me off once in a while to the family in the kampung, though not being hindu, I don't go to the ceremonies much, I find them boring. A good cremation is interesting once in a while though !!

I don't know where you are meeting these girls, DJ. "66", "deja vu", if yes, then you will get exactly what you have been getting.

Meet a shop girl, not the kind of shop like "body and soul", but a typical junky souvenir shop, where the girl works there 6 days a week, and lives in a room the size of your bathroom. That is the kind of girl who is unspoilt, and will adore you, if you treat her well, and take care of her.

Just for the hell of it, go meet that girl I PM'd you about, but might want to call first, as they work strange shifts.

BTW, I was with my girl 5 years before I married her. They like to jump into things, but you are the boss, you set the pace. 5 years should be enough for you to decide if she is worthy.

Dorman

09-17-05, 02:39

tattoo in the small of her back

Christ, that's always the giveaway though isn't it? Why do the girls do that? They may as well stick a big neon sign over their heads flashing "I'm a wh*re!"

DJ Monger

09-17-05, 18:02

Ok, this is long. All you mongers just trying to find out where to get laid on your vacation in bali can probably just skip this (you might try "no. 1" on danu posa, it seems the best of the lot these days)

DJ, that may be the case, but as you and I have discussed, what kind of Balinese woman is she? smoking, drinking, tattoo in the small of her back? That is not a "real" Balinese, and you know it.

You have to give in somewhere. Either you want the party girl, hair done perfect, make up, dancing until 5.00 AM, and yes, she will fuck around on you, or you want a "real" Balinese, who values family above anything else.

Ok, so just for the record i'm really enjoying this discussion, and appreciate/value the advice i'm getting from you guys. If I'm disagreeing with you here, it's not that I neccesarily think that you're wrong - I've simply had experiences to the contrary of what you're saying, and you havent convinced me (yet).

But dude, what did I ever say to make you think I met these girls at double six? With perfect hair, lots of makeup, and tattoos on their backs, dancing till 5am? Did I ever say that?

Of the 5 non-pro indonesian girls i've dated (*as in over 2 months, i've been out on dates with who knows how many local girls, often behind their boyfriends backs), one was an 18 year old kampung girl from negara, who i met in negara. One was a 20 year old student studying dance at STSI (the big local arts college). Those are the 2 balinese girls in my life, both of them were born and raised on the island of Bali, Hindu, non-smoking, non-drinking, nightclubs verboten. Of the 3 javanese girls, one was a 25 year old language student at udayana university (which is where I met her, every day for a month before we went out, I studied there for a while) who graduated while i was dating her and who went on to work in an office here. Another was a professional dangdut singer in bandung (where i spent some time before coming to bali) who was really more dating her indonesian manager and seeing me on the side. The last (second chronologically) is a professional dancer (you can see her dancing in a bunch of inul's videos), she actually had a very dodgy job as an entertainer in japan before dating me though. Nevertheless the 2 entertainers i met through work/friends, not through any sort of nightclub scene. 2 of these girls are stunners (or at least damn good looking) the other 3 are more or less about as attractive as i am (probably more rather than less, but in the same ballpark) and I think all of them found me genuinely attractive to some degree. None of them have tattoos, none of them were prone to dancing till 5am.

And all of them cheated on me. One i caught red handed, one introduced me to her boyfriend while were were getting it on behind his back (that was an uncomfortable dinner, though they seemed pretty unconcerned about it), one just told me about it up front, one i got the scoop on from our mutual friends who wanted me to know what was going on, and one was just occasionally too busy "studying" on a saturday night (yeah right) to see me, and would suddenly have a lot of new french phrases to drop when she had time to see me later in the week. I used to wonder if i was just some kind of sucker, till I started watching my Indonesian friends.

Living and working here, I have loads and loads of close Indonesian friends. Close enough that i see how they live, know the gossip, see with my own eyes what goes on behind their boyfriends/girlfriends/wives/husbands backs. And of the 20 staff i have, and the circle of 30 or so other indonesian friends of mine, i'd say roughly 100% of them cheat regularly on their significant others, and seem to think nothing of it. this goes across the board, it's not just girls who hang out at double six.

I live here. I see it. Believe me or not.

And of course they'll lie about it without even thinking about it, and will deny it to your face till their dying breath, even when you've got undeniable proof. It's second nature, part of their culture. Not just the sleeping around a bit, but the lying! They would much rather tell you what you want to hear than be blunt, about anything really - when your order will be ready, whether they like this restaurant or not, whether they're single or not, if it's available in red, can i get this sauce without chilis, anything. if you've spent any time here you know what i'm talking about.

Now, just in case i sound bitter, really I'm not. I consider it all part of that "learning a new culture" thing - we *are* on the opposite side of the world after all, and were well warned it would be different here, and not just in some fantasy island kind of way. Maybe Americans like myself could stand to chill out a bit on the fidelity issue, I'm given to understand the French (for instance) are a lot more relaxed about it, and maybe happier for it. And honestly I'm pretty used to all of this by this point. Plus, i have to say that as a bule in indonesia, having my partners not too worried about anyone's fidelity generally works more to my advantage than theirs. It was a head trip at first, but I'm pretty used to it by now, it really doesn't bother me much in the short term.

However, I've decided, i really dont want to marry into that kind of scene! And I'm not at all convinced I can avoid it if I marry an Indonesian woman, period. You're absolutely welcome to try to convince me otherwise, but so far you havent...

DJ Monger

09-17-05, 18:10

Meet a shop girl, not the kind of shop like "body and soul", but a typical junky souvenir shop, where the girl works there 6 days a week, and lives in a room the size of your bathroom. That is the kind of girl who is unspoilt, and will adore you, if you treat her well, and take care of her. For all of what I said, I've never dated a shop girl. Maybe I'll give it a try!

Djm

1Ball

09-19-05, 16:02

DJM, I don't know, man, maybe I am just lucky.

reading about your GFs, they seem vastly different from my girl, in as much as they seem to have been more exposed to western cultures, and maybe "influenced", I don't know, though you go on to say all your Indonesian friends find the practice perfectly normal. This, I find surprizing.

Again, maybe I am just lucky.

Keep trying, she's out there somewhere, but my thought is she is not in LOS. She would be a fish out of water. JMHO of course.
let's have drink when I get back.

DJ Monger

09-20-05, 10:50

1ball,

You might be lucky, I might be unlucky, maybe we are indeed dating different kinds of women, though I wouldn't say mine are really westerniszed (though they tend to be slanted towards singers, dancers, and students, maybe not the most straightlaced of pools to swim in)

Anyway I imagine I'll go on dating indonesian women for the moment. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised later down the road :)

And thanks for all your input. I owe you a beer for sure!

DJM

Rent One

09-23-05, 13:17

Anyone have information on Tahiti? I can not find it and it could be my own fault. Please advise.

1Ball

09-25-05, 12:06

Anyone have information on Tahiti? I can not find it and it could be my own fault. Please advise.

Rent one, I hope this was a joke.......
If not, may I suggest you buy a world atlas.

Tahiti is in Oceania, not Indonesia.

:rolleyes:

Menteng

09-27-05, 05:02

Hi,

I will be in Bali from 1/10 till 7/10. Any specialist out there who wants to share a beer and exchange info?

Tasty1

09-27-05, 06:12

I am heading to Bali just for two days. Need info for *** to ***** hotel, close to action. I want a beach front hotel with easy access to some action. I am not a "do it in the hut" type of guy. Are there good clubs to find easy p4p action and closest hotel to them. If you prefer PM me. Thanks in advance.

Red Cork

09-29-05, 06:49

with the indo currency plummeting on the world exchange, what is happening ove r there now? bird flu , ruphai in the toilet. has the pooning gotten cheaper because of this?

William Saw

09-30-05, 01:30

with the indo currency plummeting on the world exchange, what is happening ove r there now? bird flu , ruphai in the toilet. has the pooning gotten cheaper because of this?Very cheap for pussy,hotels food etc.

DJ Monger

09-30-05, 07:06

Regarding Indonesians, and their alleged tendancies towards infidelity:

I don't know, though you go on to say all your Indonesian friends find the practice perfectly normal. This, I find surprizing.Just to give you an example that happened a couple days ago. My indonesian assistant/roadie comes to work grinning from ear to ear, and proceeds to show me some pictures on his handphone of a cute young indonesian girl. "My ex-girlfriend - she's visiting bali, her husband went out for a while, so she invites me over to her room for a quick jiggy-jig!" Ok, so a wife steps out on her man, could happen anywhere really. But the surprising/funny part - they're on their honeymoon! She couldn't even wait till their honeymoon was over to start cheating on him!

And these are just normal, college educated indonesian 20-somethings, hapless husband included - it's not a double six girl and her mongering expat boyfriend we're talking about. Granted, it's not like this could *never* happen in America (i'm remembering the wedding dinner scene in 'Kitchen Confidential" for instance) But I never *personally* had a close friend relate a story like that to me in 32 years of living in America.

Then to top it off she dragged her new (and not very happy looking) hubby off to meet my friend that night, i saw it with my own eyes - unbelievable the cheek of this girl! But then again it reminded a bit of some scenes i've found myself in personally.

Djm

Dirtbird

09-30-05, 18:49

I have only just discovered the ISG recently and this is my first post spurred on by DJ Monger's tale "more indonesian hijinks".

I lived on and off in Indonesia with my Indonesian Girlfriend for a few years until 2001 when we split up due to various reasons one of them being the fact that I couldnt keep from mongering any chance I could get. My work situation allowed me to spend 3 or 4 months over there in the summer and a month at christmas, my Girlfriend had stayed for a few months in my home country also. She was from Java, we met in Bali but we stayed a lot with her family in Java over the years.

Anyway! We were living in Bali when we split and she went back to her family in Java leaving me there for a few weeks of fun before returning home. We kept in touch bit when I got home and about 6 months later I got a call from her telling me she was getting married to some western guy she met and going to live with him in ******.

After she got married, she would call or email every so often to tell me how happy she was, how rich her husband was blah blah blah she even sent me Pics of the wedding. A bit of payback for dumping her I suppose, but I would always say I was happy for her and wish her the best.

About a year later I was in Bali for my usual summer stays and I got a mail from her to say she would be back in Indonesia in a week, on her own to see her family, her husband was following her out there a few weeks later. When she arrived in Bali she made her way straight to my bungalow, which we didnt leave for a few days of serious fucking until she went to Java to see her family.

She even arrived back in Bali to meet her husband a day early and the night before he arrived I fucked her again, I saw her once again a couple of days later walking down Jl Legian in Kuta shopping with her husband in tow.

He looked happy enough and maybe what he doesnt know wont hurt him, I dont know if this is typical of Indonesian girls attitudes towards infidelity, but DJ Monger was right about the lying too, they will tell you anything you want to hear rather than face an uncomfortable truth. However that said, once you are aware of this it can be endearing in its own way, especially when they are as goddam sexy as she was. but then again I didnt marry her.

Bulai69

09-30-05, 22:26

A couple of weeks ago I was out with a girl I've posted photos of (you can look back and see "V") with her soon-to-be husband who sends her around 20 million rupiah a month when he is not in Jakarta. He is totally convinced of her loyalty. I sat opposite her at a table for 4 with her friend on her right and an indonesian male friend on my right. All evening she had her foot on my crutch and kept telling me in Indonesian (in front of him who doesn't speak the language) how she would be sucking my cock the next day when he went away: which she duly did! After I left I also discovered that a fellow contributor to this forum enjoyed the same experience! Never, ever believe your "girlfriend" (or wife), if you have one is not shagging someone else.

Red Cork

10-01-05, 01:15

what happened to the one that was bankrupting you?

Wahoolee

10-01-05, 04:00

Bulai69

10-01-05, 09:44

Bankrupcy: no problem - I'm fucking her younger sister now...

Dorman

10-01-05, 16:04

The news is just coming in from Kuta and Jimbaran, I do hope everyone here and all the lovely friends I've met in Bali are safe tonight.

Look after yourselves.

Red Cork

10-01-05, 16:04

exhead

10-01-05, 17:36

everyone be careful over there. i can't figure out that muslim fanantic mentality? the world helps them after the tsunami and pours millions of dollars in aid at them and still they hate us. what would happen to that country if all non-muslims left? and took our technology? but i guess that is what they want.
I think I'm stratching bali/indo off my list!Off to Bali Oct 15th for a couple of weeks of relaxation, and you know what, it's probably the safest time to be on the island. Please stay home! ;-)

Jaimito Cartero

10-01-05, 19:39

I just got back from a month in Brazil and heard on the radio about more bombings in Denpasar. It really made me sad, both in the loss of life and injuries, and I know that so many really good Balinese people will be financially hurt from this.

Hanqe

10-01-05, 20:21

Never, never stop to go to Bali! These wonderful people cannot help muslim extremists. If you stop to go to Bali you will do what the terrorists want. Do not let them take over the world! Go to Bali! Help the girls to survive and have fun!

Hanqe

I just got back from a month in Brazil and heard on the radio about more bombings in Denpasar. It really made me sad, both in the loss of life and injuries, and I know that so many really good Balinese people will be financially hurt from this.

Geezer59

10-02-05, 05:56

The bombings are a shock to any civil person and we owe our support to those wonderful people. I'll certainly not be cancelling my visit in January. Don't let those bastards win.

DJ Monger

10-02-05, 09:26

The mood here seems quiet but resiliant. It's too soon to say what the final reaction will be - I imagine there will be some cancellations over this, but I can really sense a difference in peoples attitudes here this time. Unlike last time there doesn't seem to be mad rush to the airport by all the tourists. People are not thronging the streets at the moment, but they're not avoiding them either.

I for one am not planning to leave. i refuse to let the f*cking terrorists win.

DJ M

Cebu Local

10-02-05, 23:46

everyone be careful over there. i can't figure out that muslim fanantic mentality? the world helps them after the tsunami and pours millions of dollars in aid at them and still they hate us. what would happen to that country if all non-muslims left? and took our technology? but i guess that is what they want.
i think i'm stratching bali/indo off my list!Balinese are NOT MOSLEM,The island is 95% HINDU,that is why they are targeted by the Moslems.Roasted Pig is a Balinese specialty

Blacklisted

10-03-05, 00:38

Roasted pig..... Arrrggghhhh...(salivations)

Master Diver II

10-03-05, 04:08

Guys,

Being a Muslim myself, it hurts to hear my religion associated with terrrorists. Please remember they are the loud minority. It is unfortunate that these events had to be repeated in Bali and I, for one, am concerned that the good local people will suffer again. Last time around, arrivals to Bali were halved which had a drastic effect on the locals who are trying to make a living. It's not just the shopkeepers and business owners who suffer - but their employees and their dependants. They're suffering enough with the fuel subsidies being removed let alone their source of income. As for the JI, they find this easy to exploit and recruit more members. People with nothing have nothing to lose. It's a sad reflection of the general state of the country.

MD II

The Painter

10-03-05, 09:58

everyone be careful over there. i can't figure out that muslim fanantic mentality? the world helps them after the tsunami and pours millions of dollars in aid at them and still they hate us. what would happen to that country if all non-muslims left? and took our technology? but i guess that is what they want.
i think i'm stratching bali/indo off my list!

Bro red cork

The tsunami not only killed moslems but christians, buddhists, hindus and perhaps the followers of every major religion in the world. To say that aid was only given to moslems is not quite accurate, mate.

Just my 2 rupiahs worth, bro. Chill my friend!

Frankypanky

10-04-05, 01:10

Red Cork

10-04-05, 05:50

Rubio Tonto

10-04-05, 10:06

Red Cork,

What you are saying is that you refuse to go to a Hindu place because some Muslims bombed it.

Hung Man 1808

10-04-05, 12:35

I am trying to fuck Indonesia, but there are just too many girls....

More seriously, I've seen much less attitude and less bigotry in this moderate Muslim country than I've ever had from the christian religious right. I don't think Ohio really matches up to Jakarta for the freedom to have fun.

And the Balinese are even nicer, and are mostly Hindu, so that throws the 'screw Indonesia because they are Muslim' argument out right there.

Most Indonesians I've met hate bombers period.

Blacklisted

10-04-05, 12:58

painter , i am quite chilled my friend so i will take your 2 cents worth a just that. i under stand the devastation of the tsunami, and who and where it stuck.but in indonesia it struck the heartland of militant moslems areas and the western christian world poor their hearts and money and aid to them and still are. and every moslem terrorist today is jihad ing for allah. so don't tell me it is not religiously driven. they are muslim religious fanatics, and we all know many muslim clerics or whatever they want to call them are preaching kill the whitey of the west. so i can't help but to think that most muslims are on a hate trip to most westerners. so i say fuck indonesia and muslim countries. i'll spend my money elsewhere. i'm sure some a hole will flame me and comment "stay away we don't wnat u anyways" i say "so be it"

as a 'whitey' and athiest, i understand your anger, but also see master diver's point. unfortunately, it's not the christians, the hindus, the jews, buddhists, the taoists, or any other religion that is choosing to bomb the crap out of harmless civilians...

i ask this question as a pretty ignorant westerner, and in no way do i mean to cause offense to any denomination, but can someone please tell my why anyone would want to be part of islam? i just don't get it...

i want to understand... (and am aware that 'whitey's are certainly not angels, and don't want to get into the whole iraq issue.... but,

for example:

1) the fundamentalists claim that westerners are living some kind of debaucherous existence, and seem to resent this.

2) the ladies cover up almost everything, from my understanding, because it is 'their' fault if they tempt a man into [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) them by showing too much ankle.

3) i could go on...

but then, in the end, again, in my understanding, if a muslim blows themselves up to kill the 'infidels', they are sent to 'heaven' or similar, and provided with a harem of 70 or so virgins....

how does it all work?
signed:
confused...

Dirtbird

10-04-05, 17:19

If Fundamentalists of ANY religion had their way, we; like/minded free thinking individuals would not be able to converse on a site like this. Muslims don't have a monopoly on extremism, it is something that can be found in all religions.

Sick Fuckers have been using bigoted and distorted versions of religion to justify acts of senseless violence throughout history, blaming all muslims for the extremist acts of a few, is much like saying all Irish people are members of the IRA! All Germans are nazi's! All men who go to South East Asia to find women are paedophiles!

I know It's not easy in a situation like this, but dont let the attitude of extremists and bigots change your own views, its what they want and they're not worth it.

Red Cork

10-04-05, 17:54

Red Cork,

What you are saying is that you refuse to go to a Hindu place because some Muslims bombed it.

yeah! thats what i'm saying ,
a little hindu spot with great people surrounded by a muslim fanatics who have bombed it twice. have you heard the saying things go in threes?
sorry, i'll take my chances elsewhere.
you stay and be the saviour.

Jaimito Cartero

10-04-05, 18:05

2) the ladies cover up almost everything, from my understanding, because it is 'their' fault if they tempt a man into [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) them by showing too much ankle.

when i was in bangkok last year getting a physical at bumrungrad hospital, there were a number of burka clad women there. most of them were ug-lee, but i saw a few, and i tell you something, just the view of her eyes were totally attractive. sure, maybe she had a full beard and mustache, but sometimes clothed is much more appealing than bare.

Master Diver II

10-05-05, 05:56

as a 'whitey' and athiest, i understand your anger, but also see master diver's point. unfortunately, it's not the christians, the hindus, the jews, buddhists, the taoists, or any other religion that is choosing to bomb the crap out of harmless civilians...

i ask this question as a pretty ignorant westerner, and in no way do i mean to cause offense to any denomination, but can someone please tell my why anyone would want to be part of islam? i just don't get it...

i want to understand... (and am aware that 'whitey's are certainly not angels, and don't want to get into the whole iraq issue.... but,

for example:

1) the fundamentalists claim that westerners are living some kind of debaucherous existence, and seem to resent this.

2) the ladies cover up almost everything, from my understanding, because it is 'their' fault if they tempt a man into [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) them by showing too much ankle.

3) i could go on...

but then, in the end, again, in my understanding, if a muslim blows themselves up to kill the 'infidels', they are sent to 'heaven' or similar, and provided with a harem of 70 or so virgins....

how does it all work?
signed:
confused...

it's not as simple as that my friend. as dirtbird said, there are fundamentalists in every religion and extremists in every country. to judge a religion or citizen by the actions of extremists would be rash. unfortunately every religion has multiple interpretations, and again not everyone is party to the same interpretation. it is far too in depth for a full discussion on this board but all religions preach the same basic philosophy, unfortunately human beings have a tendency to pervert meanings to suit their own causes.

you cannot judge all americans by the actions of their president (dont flame me but it is strange that someone who preaches democracy ignored global democracy - among a whole list of other actions)or for that matter by the various "churches" and "new branches" of christianity that have sprouted up around the country; should i hate all jews because of their actions against palestinians? should i hate all germans because of the nazis? should i hate catholics for the actions of the ira? should i hate christians because crusaders murdered jews, christians and muslims indiscriminately, not to mention became the holiest cannibals in christendom (mind you the crusades were actually started as a political -not religious - move by the pope just for history buffs out there)? it is this kind of thought that leads to isolating and ostracising people that the extremists feed on. wars and all this terror aften come from when you stop talking to people and decide it's time for my gun is bigger than yours.

please dont generalise; you have to make too many assumptions to do that, and i that's when you ignore the facts that you dont know about which may prove to be opposite to what you thought. just my 2 cents worth. i'd rather write a proper fr.

md ii

Hisaptetek

10-05-05, 06:52

MD 11, Red Cork could learn a thing or two from you about being civilised.

Let's move on shall we. This is International Sex Guide forum. We want FRs not religous and paranoid ramblings.

Admin

10-05-05, 06:56

Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

Sumart

10-05-05, 20:45

we should go back to our hobby. I will be in Kuta soon. Where are the hot places at the moment for daytime and nightime fun? the reports covering this topic are quite old

Thanks for your help guys

Sumart

Menteng

10-06-05, 05:36

OK, here's an FR to start the normal things in this Forum going.

Before I was struck by a bad stomach a couple of days ago, I went to visit a friend at Musro in Kuta. He said it was possible to arrange things with the LC's.
Soon after I've arrived we were warned that there might be a bomb on the premises. The police came with the special trained dogs and after about an hour the sign "Save" was given. Nevertheles, hardly any guest came to the place, so it was closed at about 24.00.

We decided to go to out to find some girls, so we headed to Sanur. I suggested to go to Dyan first because I've been there before. When we arrived, there were about 10 women still waiting for a client. As they were all too old and not very attractive, we left the place and went to Barokah.
It was my first time there and apparently they have a different system: you order a girl. As I don't trust that system entirely, only my friend went for it. The description of the woman he wanted, would have fitted my description though. Young, beautiful and good at "mandi kucing" with BJ.
Of course the go-between said that there are several girls like that. So I asked to bring the most beautiful ones.
After five minutes he arrived with two girls. One who looks very ok and apparently young and another, who was not like what my friend has asked for.
As I didn't order a girl, I said, go ahead. But he might have seen my looks of approval when the girl arrived so he ordered another one and left me with the "ok" girl, Sonia.
She's from Bandung and I think she didn't lie because she could answer me in Sundanese when I said something to her in that dialect.
We took a shower together and she washed my crotch and arse thoroughly.
While doing that she teased my prick with her tongue and gave me short BJ's.
After we dried, we moved the actions to the bed. She started to lick my ears and then went lower to suck my nipples. She did that a while before going lower to lick and suck the inner part of my thighs and knees. Only after that she started to lick my dick and balls. Still no BJ. She repeated the licking and sucking of the inner part of my thighs and knees, but this time she also started licking my perineum area. That felt good!
As if sensing my tension, she started the BBBJ. She couldn't take all of my dick inside her mouth, but what she was able to do, was very good. She varied the BBBJ with the lickings and after a while I was ready to fuck her.
She handed me the condom, and guess what? It was too small. As I didn't have one on me, I decided to take the chance and fuck her without one.
Ok, ok, I know it was stupid. Even more stupid was the thought to come as fast as possible to prevent a long contact. (Yes, yes, I know, a fuck is a fuck). So, only missionary and I managed to come within minutes.
We showered again together and I gave her 20K tip before leaving.
Almost forgot, the price was 100K, including go-between fee and room.

Additional info:
She said she came from a brothel not far from Barokah. It is located at Jalan Sekar Waru 3b, Pelancong Area. You can fuck there too, but she said the beds at Barokah are better (!). The price is the same 100K.

Gmonster2

10-06-05, 08:02

I was in Bali a few months back tried Kuta bugar massage (jl setiabudi 23-25 kuta) and would recommend it, they had about 15 girls the first time and maybe 20 to choose from the second time. I paid 50k rupiah for 1 hour both times and got offered a card with 40k for the hour for my next visit. thats for 1 hour full body massage.

The first girl was a hottie about 22yrs old can't remember the number but was called Cinta(love in indonesian). Took her top off(great tits) and lowered her jeans to show off some lacy white panties gave me a great handjob. She was tough on the negotiations ended up paying 200k for a hj only! Note to self hard to haggle with a raging horn!

2nd visit Got a girl called Dharma who gave a great massage, happy ending was a headjob and tug for 200k. Nice girl a bit shy tho at first.

Tried Diyan ayu one afternoon in sanur.(jl betngandang I/04) rooms were good about 10 girls showed up to choose from , i had arrived in a taxi the boss said 500k for an hour i told him i'd pay 200k he spoke to the taxi guy and the girl he didnt seem happy but i stood my ground. I speak a little indo so pretended i was an old hand at this(first timer actually) & ended up paying 200k for the hour , no stunners available but chose pritta? She turned out to be a great choice put in 110% effort great Bj and banged her good in a few positions.

Another night tried another of the X houses cant remember which one, the girls were average one Sandy was about a 7/10 I paid 200k she had a bad attitude from the get go, no this no that bj extra you tip me coz you get good price. Avoid this one(sandy) also the room was filthy should have checked the room first before paying...

Plenty of freelancers were around I picked up Julie from paddys about 11pm on a saturday night with about 12 girls to choose from, a lot of young and pretty ones there . paid 400k for 2 hours back at my hotel got the girl in no problems 5 star hotel and straight thru the front entry! Nice girl.

Saw more freelancers at the hard rock cafe bar (downstairs) and in the hard rock hotel bar wednesday nights are good(drinks expensive tho). Also at mbargo club.

That was it for my 1st mongering trip but not the last.

Thanks to other members on here for their reports which helped me out. I'll do better on my next trip :)