2006 Monterrey Reports

[El Cabron 007]

I do not mind if my buddies shared. Like I said, I force-share. I have been trying to get these guys to take one of my girls but, alas, they are too polite, which I respect, to accept. One day, I will take a girl out of their arms and do her upstairs. Maybe then they will get the picture. Watch out.

Uno Bob dude, do me a favor, go to the El C place and take my china girl out. She works night shift on busy days. You will fall in love with the sweetest girl in MTY. Tell her I sent you. And tell her I love her.

As for the economy and the customer service, I do not only agree, I am a participant. I make outsourcing happen and I build customer service centers. But why is it that only fuckers like us know this? Why isn’t the majority speaking out? When gas prices hit record high, we continued to buy. The oil companies posted record profits and, still, no one complained. When it was time for elections, the gas price dropped 30% only to clime back once the elections were over.

This is how it works, and I know: Screw one. If no one screams, screw another. I no one complains, screw them all. We're not complaining. We're being screwed in all possible ways.

Wait until the new tax code comes out. You will no longer have to file taxes. You simply pay 22% or 30% sales tax and that is it. Watch the rich get richer and the poor go to hell.

I'll stop. This is making me angry.

Back to San Jose. Let's plan a trip. I can go any time so you guys will have to tell me when. But before that, we MUST do a group visit to MTY. I want to rock the casba.

Wasted





I agree Wasted, it would be nice to get together. As I said I just returned from Curacao, there were 6 guys there from the board, it was cool. But you have to watch those bastards, they fucked half my girls, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. They even knew I was in love with 3 of them and they fucked them anyway, hahahahaha.

LK

[Lion Killer]

As I said Wasted Man, I am game for a MTY regada. Just let me know after the first of the year. Also make sure the hotel has room for us all, hahahaha.

LK

[MonterreyDude]

I know a guy from the USA that takes care of my girls... he shouldn't, but he does.
As a matter of fact am quoting him here.

PS: one of these days.... just mark my words, one of these days.



I do not mind if my buddies shared. Like I said, I force-share. I have been trying to get these guys to take one of my girls but, alas, they are too polite, which I respect, to accept. One day, I will take a girl out of their arms and do her upstairs. Maybe then they will get the picture. Watch out.

Uno Bob dude, do me a favor, go to the El C place and take my china girl out. She works night shift on busy days. You will fall in love with the sweetest girl in MTY. Tell her I sent you. And tell her I love her.

As for the economy and the customer service, I do not only agree, I am a participant. I make outsourcing happen and I build customer service centers. But why is it that only fuckers like us know this? Why isn’t the majority speaking out? When gas prices hit record high, we continued to buy. The oil companies posted record profits and, still, no one complained. When it was time for elections, the gas price dropped 30% only to clime back once the elections were over.

This is how it works, and I know: Screw one. If no one screams, screw another. I no one complains, screw them all. We're not complaining. We're being screwed in all possible ways.

Wait until the new tax code comes out. You will no longer have to file taxes. You simply pay 22% or 30% sales tax and that is it. Watch the rich get richer and the poor go to hell.

I'll stop. This is making me angry.

Back to San Jose. Let's plan a trip. I can go any time so you guys will have to tell me when. But before that, we MUST do a group visit to MTY. I want to rock the casba.

Wasted

[MonterreyDude]

"Back to San Jose. Let's plan a trip."

Yeah, go ahead, talk about steak in front of the hungry-chained-to-the-same-place dog.

[El Cabron 007]

If Carlos is not going, hmmm ..... Oh well... We'll let you know how it goes.

Wasted


"Back to San Jose. Let's plan a trip."

Yeah, go ahead, talk about steak in front of the hungry-chained-to-the-same-place dog.

[Lion Killer]

If we do make the trip, myself, Wasted and others, I will get you some pics to wile away your nights making me copies again, ahahhahahaha.

LK

[MonterreyDude]

Am gonna stop talking to all of you guys all together...



If we do make the trip, myself, Wasted and others, I will get you some pics to wile away your nights making me copies again, ahahhahahaha.

LK

[GeorgeB9]

Oh Dear, why did I ever come to Monterrey! Back in the U.K. and I just cant get the place out of my mind. Those chiquitas (no doubt spelt wrong), those 'Miss World' bodies so freely available, the Obsession buffet, El Infinito and the rest, the girl at Givinchy that turned me on like hell but I was too slow and stupid to grab, the wonderful company of Carlos and 'Wastedgman', have left me feeling like it was all just a dream! If you are a reader who is thinking of going to Monterrey - DONT GO! ... unless you want a drug in your system that you cant shake out! So far away, what do I now do, but dream and suffer!

[El Cabron 007]

Told you guys Calros will stop associating with us. See?

Wasted


Am gonna stop talking to all of you guys all together...

[El Cabron 007]

LK - still waiting for you to do the favor - it is dated 09-06-06 #783

Thank you sir.

Wasted

[Lion Killer]

Check ur private message then tell me how.

LK

[El Cabron 007]

LK,

Instructions provided - see your PM.

This will cost you a drink next time I see you. Or you can let me play with one of your girls for free - like Carlos unwillingly does :)

Wasted


Check ur private message then tell me how.

LK

[El Cabron 007]

Come on Carlos, You know how many of us envy you for living in MTY?

It costs you 50 cents in gas and 5 minutes of planning then 10 minutes of driving. What the heck are you complaining about?

From what I gathered from LK and Uno Bob dude, your Infinito club is as fantastic as all of San Jose.

Add a trip to the Mall, Grand Pastor and then an espresso at the star bucks. Heck. You've got it made. You've living in a place that does not even compare to Amsterdam. One trip to Amsterdam, and to be specific, a visit to an upscale club cost me $850 for an hour and a half.

Wanna trade places?

I am a couple of minutes from a nice SC here but will have to think 100 times before I step foot in it. Imagine paying $20 for a lab dance while keeping hands to yourself and a camera watch you. If you want a VIP room, it's an additional $200 for the room plus who knows how much for the girl.

Count your sins, or blessing, and stay in the place where you live.

Wasted.




"Back to San Jose. Let's plan a trip."

Yeah, go ahead, talk about steak in front of the hungry-chained-to-the-same-place dog.

[MonterreyDude]

George.
You are more than welcomed to come back and have more of the fun you had here.




Oh Dear, why did I ever come to Monterrey! Back in the U.K. and I just cant get the place out of my mind. Those chiquitas (no doubt spelt wrong), those 'Miss World' bodies so freely available, the Obsession buffet, El Infinito and the rest, the girl at Givinchy that turned me on like hell but I was too slow and stupid to grab, the wonderful company of Carlos and 'Wastedgman', have left me feeling like it was all just a dream! If you are a reader who is thinking of going to Monterrey - DONT GO! ... unless you want a drug in your system that you cant shake out! So far away, what do I now do, but dream and suffer!

[MonterreyDude]

Are you talking to me?
Are-you-talking-to-me?????


Hell, kidnapp me and take me to San Jose....



Come on Carlos, You know how many of us envy you for living in MTY?

It costs you 50 cents in gas and 5 minutes of planning then 10 minutes of driving. What the heck are you complaining about?

From what I gathered from LK and Uno Bob dude, your Infinito club is as fantastic as all of San Jose.

Add a trip to the Mall, Grand Pastor and then an espresso at the star bucks. Heck. You've got it made. You've living in a place that does not even compare to Amsterdam. One trip to Amsterdam, and to be specific, a visit to an upscale club cost me $850 for an hour and a half.

Wanna trade places?

I am a couple of minutes from a nice SC here but will have to think 100 times before I step foot in it. Imagine paying $20 for a lab dance while keeping hands to yourself and a camera watch you. If you want a VIP room, it's an additional $200 for the room plus who knows how much for the girl.

Count your sins, or blessing, and stay in the place where you live.

Wasted.

[Lion Killer]

No luck wasted, your gonna have to be more specific.

And about that drink, what are you smoking?????????????? If I am correct and I know I am its you my friend that is asking for the "favor" not me.

And its gonna cost you 2 drinks, one for me and one for your girlfriend I am gonna fuck in the booth that your gonna pay for. Hehehehheheh.

LK

[El Cabron 007]

LK, You make it down to MTY and we'll figure out who owes what then. Until then, I'll keep the girls loved and well taken care of.

Forget it. I'll walk you through it some day when you're sober :)

Uno Bob dude. How goes it? I went to buy a pocket rocket here in the northeast and the idiots wanted $22 for a plastic one and $39 for the same with a bounus lubricant. I could see it was the same exact thing except cheaper cast. Heck, I'll use my big toe next time I'm in the clubs.

Did you ever buy that stimulant gel I showed you? I picked up a new bottle today for even more $$. These things are expensive. However, the looks on the girl’s face when you apply it on them will double your hard-on.

If you go to the "O" place, give my lady "J" a big hug for me and squeeze her a little. AND I MEAN A LITTLE. Tell her it's from me.

Wasted


No luck wasted, your gonna have to be more specific.

And about that drink, what are you smoking?????????????? If I am correct and I know I am its you my friend that is asking for the "favor" not me.

And its gonna cost you 2 drinks, one for me and one for your girlfriend I am gonna fuck in the booth that your gonna pay for. Hehehehheheh.

LK

[Lion Killer]

Sober????????????

Its 4:30 in the afternoon when I sent you the message. I really think my friend I am definatly sober.

LK

[El Cabron 007]

I am so tempted to suggest we all get a private place, keep an apartment of some kind and save on hotel cost. However, this would mean long-term commitment and I always say this would be my last trip.

What if we get Uno Bob dude to pay for it. :) - just kidding.

But seriously, I am paying over $350/week for the hotel. Although I get special service and other in room extra's (Carlos knows), I always wonder if there was an alternative. This would mean giving up on my room maintenance romance as well.

What shocked me is that girls come into the hotel and ask the front desk what room I am in, next thing I know, there are knocking on my door. At 5:30 in the morning. Be it odd, but it's sweet. I some times have to send them away because I am occupied or let them in to occupy me. It's like finding a $100 bill on the street. Or a crushed rose that a car drove over to be delivered to my girl on her birthday (that was funny).

Enough blabbering.

Wasted

[Member #3453]

Or you can let me play with one of your girls for free - like Carlos unwillingly does :)Wasted

This is the first I have heard of Carlos "using" a girl from your sacred flock WastedG. Very interesting intel. I will have to keep that in mind when I visit the I place. One of his girls is HOT, HOT, HOT after my body...I mean, my money :-)

The truth of the matter is that I actually found her first, and she is MINE!!! But, she was pounced upon like a thief in the night, swept away by more generous deposits to her bank account by an individual that has the greater opportunity to make deposits, both figuratively and literally, verdad.

Pero, ella tiene mucha amorosa conmigo, and yo creo el debe volver ella a mi pronto, porque ella is mio. Estoy el correcto novio para ella, porque ella digame egual cosas, verdad? Ella dice estoy "hansom man," y ella "no tenga mi dinero," etc...Yo no tengo "la muchacha enojado" (Angry Girl) mas, y necesito una novia in El Infinito. Y, el tiene muchas amigas in todo MTY!!!!!!!!!!!! Por Favor, deme tus sobras "leftovers."

[Member #3453]

wastedg,

not a bad idea. but, frankly, i think we would really miss the maid service. maybe you can arrange for maid service in our apartamento from "j", or one of the others, verdad? with extras of course.

i know...lets buy a cheap mobile home and park it at carlos' house on the street..we can just run an extension to his house. carlos can clean it between our visits, and we can pay him a small stipend, or give him one of our girls :-) ok, i forgot, bad idea. he lives too far from ground zero for my convenience. too bad carlos, maybe next time.

as for the pocket rocket. i have significant intel to impart on the board concerning the pocket rocket options. i have gravitated to the minature version, which seems to be much more reliable, harder to break, etc...but, they are more expensive to keep in batteries. however, this one i found, one in particular has an angled minature head that stimulates the clit in variable incremental speeds. so, you can regulate the effect on the girl depending on her sensitivities.

i did buy the clit stimulator, and it seemed to work pretty well. but, frankly, the girls swoon so much when they are with me i can't tell if it's me or the clit stimulator, hahahaha!!!

i will submit some additional commentary next week after i have returned to the frigid northland, where my pecker will probably freeze off two seconds after the flight lands.

estoy muy triste ahora!!!!!!!!!


i am so tempted to suggest we all get a private place, keep an apartment of some kind and save on hotel cost. however, this would mean long-term commitment and i always say this would be my last trip.

what if we get uno bob dude to pay for it. :) - just kidding.

but seriously, i am paying over $350/week for the hotel. although i get special service and other in room extra's (carlos knows), i always wonder if there was an alternative. this would mean giving up on my room maintenance romance as well.

what shocked me is that girls come into the hotel and ask the front desk what room i am in, next thing i know, there are knocking on my door. at 5:30 in the morning. be it odd, but it's sweet. i some times have to send them away because i am occupied or let them in to occupy me. it's like finding a $100 bill on the street. or a crushed rose that a car drove over to be delivered to my girl on her birthday (that was funny).

enough blabbering.

wasted

[El Cabron 007]

uno bob dude. you need to see the master in action and then i will have to test you on one of the girls. you see, this is a biological art you have not mastered yet and you need the teacher to guide you. but here's the trick, next time you and i are in mty, we'll take 2 girls out and i'll show you on your girl then you will be test on my girl. then, and only then, you will certified.

or, you can apply a ‘single’ drop, rub it in, step back and watch the girl squirm. then you will no it is not you my good friend. it's the stuff.

try it tomorrow and let me know how it goes, if you still need help, i'll send you one of my girls to assist you.

have fun uno bob dude. and leave the light on for me.

wasted



wastedg,

not a bad idea. but, frankly, i think we would really miss the maid service. maybe you can arrange for maid service in our apartamento from "j", or one of the others, verdad? with extras of course.

i know...lets buy a cheap mobile home and park it at carlos' house on the street..we can just run an extension to his house. carlos can clean it between our visits, and we can pay him a small stipend, or give him one of our girls :-) ok, i forgot, bad idea. he lives too far from ground zero for my convenience. too bad carlos, maybe next time.

as for the pocket rocket. i have significant intel to impart on the board concerning the pocket rocket options. i have gravitated to the minature version, which seems to be much more reliable, harder to break, etc...but, they are more expensive to keep in batteries. however, this one i found, one in particular has an angled minature head that stimulates the clit in variable incremental speeds. so, you can regulate the effect on the girl depending on her sensitivities.

i did buy the clit stimulator, and it seemed to work pretty well. but, frankly, the girls swoon so much when they are with me i can't tell if it's me or the clit stimulator, hahahaha!!!

i will submit some additional commentary next week after i have returned to the frigid northland, where my pecker will probably freeze off two seconds after the flight lands.

estoy muy triste ahora!!!!!!!!!

[El Cabron 007]

are you crazy? you will trust carlos leaving the girls next door to his house? he is worse than you. he eats the pink and the green. i eat the green and the dry. you, i don’t know. what do you eat?

but seriously, i offered carlos a room in the hotel once, on me, but he refused. carlos does things his own way and that i find stimulating and adds more thrill to the kill. i like his style. you know what i mean when you see him do his hit & run routines. the guy is an excellent example of a kid in a candy store but on a diet. :) then he gets in trouble with the ones he did not eat.

all respect to you carlos. mr. monterrey.

good night.

wasted



wastedg,

not a bad idea. but, frankly, i think we would really miss the maid service. maybe you can arrange for maid service in our apartamento from "j", or one of the others, verdad? with extras of course.

i know...lets buy a cheap mobile home and park it at carlos' house on the street..we can just run an extension to his house. carlos can clean it between our visits, and we can pay him a small stipend, or give him one of our girls :-) ok, i forgot, bad idea. he lives too far from ground zero for my convenience. too bad carlos, maybe next time.

as for the pocket rocket. i have significant intel to impart on the board concerning the pocket rocket options. i have gravitated to the minature version, which seems to be much more reliable, harder to break, etc...but, they are more expensive to keep in batteries. however, this one i found, one in particular has an angled minature head that stimulates the clit in variable incremental speeds. so, you can regulate the effect on the girl depending on her sensitivities.

i did buy the clit stimulator, and it seemed to work pretty well. but, frankly, the girls swoon so much when they are with me i can't tell if it's me or the clit stimulator, hahahaha!!!

i will submit some additional commentary next week after i have returned to the frigid northland, where my pecker will probably freeze off two seconds after the flight lands.

estoy muy triste ahora!!!!!!!!!

[Member #3453]

WastedG,

Hey, unfortunately I didn't have another night left to try the clit stimulator a second time. But, suffice it to say that I did try it almost in the manner you suggested. But, I did not really rub it in as you suggested. Next time I'll give it a try.

Carlos and I went to Casino one of the nights I was in town, and I saw your girl from last time. She came over to the table for about five seconds, and then disappeared.

I was disappointed to learn that she is a lesbian. I was seriously considering bar fining her, but I have it on undisputable authority that she is one of the biggest lesbians in the club. Lesbians are the worst company, IMHO. They simply have no "real" desire for men. So, she is off my list. What a shame. She is very HOT. My girl from last time was occupied on the other side of the room, and we had to leave the club before she became available again...too bad.

Frankly, that is one of my biggest complaints about MTY. There are so many lesbians working the clubs. I guess it stands to reason that such a business would attract girls that do not mind stripping in front of men, that they can find other girls they can date that are easily available off hours, and that they have no desire for a novio that might otherwise be jealous of their profession. So, for a lesbian hotty, it is perhaps the perfect profession.

And, furthermore, I am also skeptical about the girls that are the prettiest or most alluring. Many times they turn out to be lesbians. I am actually getting quite good at discerning which are lesbians by having them sit with me for a few minutes. The lesbians have a thinly vailed wall that I can always sense between us, even if they are turning on the charm. Whenever I get that feeling about a girl that is with me, I start to wonder, and generally my suspicions are confirmed.


Uno Bob dude. You need to see the master in action and then I will have to test you on one of the girls. You see, this is a biological art you have not mastered yet and you need the teacher to guide you. But here's the trick, Next time you and I are in MTY, we'll take 2 girls out and I'll show you on your girl then you will be test on my girl. Then, and only then, you will certified.

Or, you can apply a ‘single’ drop, rub it in, step back and watch the girl squirm. Then you will no it is NOT you my good friend. It's the stuff.

Try it tomorrow and let me know how it goes, If you still need help, I'll send you one of my girls to assist you.

Have fun Uno Bob dude. And leave the light on for me.

Wasted

[MonterreyDude]

Yeah, try to do damage control.
After you guys are trying to go to San Jose and leave me behind (cause I can't go) now you are buttering the bread....




Are you crazy? You will trust Carlos leaving the girls next door to his house? He is worse than you. He eats the pink and the green. I eat the green and the dry. You, I don’t know. What do you eat?

But seriously, I offered Carlos a room in the hotel once, on me, but he refused. Carlos does things his own way and that I find stimulating and adds more thrill to the kill. I like his style. You know what I mean when you see him do his hit & run routines. The guy is an excellent example of a kid in a candy store but on a diet. :) Then he gets in trouble with the ones he did not eat.

All respect to you Carlos. Mr. Monterrey.

Good Night.

Wasted

[Member #3453]

Quieres Marmalada con eso?


Yeah, try to do damage control.
After you guys are trying to go to San Jose and leave me behind (cause I can't go) now you are buttering the bread....

[MonterreyDude]

I just returned from the Infinito.
WasteG: It seems that the J girl will be having her birthday on Saturday the 16th. She wants a cake from Pastelerias Letty.
USB: Angry girl was there. She's SO THIN that it kind of scary.

Bad news for me: My D girl from the night shift, the one Wasted wanted to grope her and she said "I belong to Carlos" is back from her sabbatical. Right now she is my angry girl. She faced me and said "you do not impress me any more... why didn't you call... yes, they already told me you come real early in the afternoon so we won't meet (news travels fast at the Infinito)".

I see troubled days ahead.....

[Member #3453]

I really noticed how thin she has become the last time I was there, further confirming my suspicions. I am sad for her, and I hope she turns it around. But, I think that her behavior will only get worse as the monkey on her back torments her physically, and eats at whatever remains of any charm I found in her soul when we first met. Que Lastima.


USB: Angry girl was there. She's SO THIN that it kind of scary.

[El Cabron 007]

I don't have an "angry girl". How can I get me one?

Carlos, J from the "I" is celebrating on the 16th? I thought she is going home on that same day. Heck, if she will be around, then I'll get her all the cake she wants. We'll have the whole club singing 'happy birthday' to her.

You know what's funny? Besides the "I work to feed my kids" and the "my mom is sick" stories, the 3rd one lately has been "my birthday is coming up, what will you buy me?"

Wasted


I just returned from the Infinito.
WasteG: It seems that the J girl will be having her birthday on Saturday the 16th. She wants a cake from Pastelerias Letty.
USB: Angry girl was there. She's SO THIN that it kind of scary.

Bad news for me: My D girl from the night shift, the one Wasted wanted to grope her and she said "I belong to Carlos" is back from her sabbatical. Right now she is my angry girl. She faced me and said "you do not impress me any more... why didn't you call... yes, they already told me you come real early in the afternoon so we won't meet (news travels fast at the Infinito)".

I see troubled days ahead.....

[MonterreyDude]

I said she wants a cake, I meant she wanted me to buy it for her since I know the city and the bakery she mentioned.
Sorry WastedG... you're out. She's mine again.
You get no cake, by the way.

And I forgot to tell you that Elias the waiter is back. He was working on Friday, altough I didnt see him on Saturday.




I don't have an "angry girl". How can I get me one?

Carlos, J from the "I" is celebrating on the 16th? I thought she is going home on that same day. Heck, if she will be around, then I'll get her all the cake she wants. We'll have the whole club singing 'happy birthday' to her.

You know what's funny? Besides the "I work to feed my kids" and the "my mom is sick" stories, the 3rd one lately has been "my birthday is coming up, what will you buy me?"

Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

Carlos,

I do not mind giving up the girl, but the cake?

Glad to hear Elias is back. Although I found out that other will take better care for us competing with him,

Wasted


I said she wants a cake, I meant she wanted me to buy it for her since I know the city and the bakery she mentioned.
Sorry WastedG... you're out. She's mine again.
You get no cake, by the way.

And I forgot to tell you that Elias the waiter is back. He was working on Friday, altough I didnt see him on Saturday.

[Member #3453]

When needing information on how to achieve the status of finding an angry girl, why not ask the expert of all time and infinatum, I mean El "Infinitum," me?

First, you have to get to know them really well. You have to make them feel that you are somehow closer to them than the others, and that you "value" them for much more than sex. That is the first step. It has nothing to do with money. You have to make them think you love them as individuals, per se, that they are somehow special to you compared to all the others.

Secondly, after you have established them as your favoritas, you have to begin expressing to them that they are not sincere with you, and that they...

are not truly "in love with you,"

"that they are not truly wanting you to move down to MTY to be with them,"

"that you think they are just good actresses,"

"that you think they are only in it for the money, even when they tell you countless times that they love you."

There, that does it...they will drop you like a rock. Of course, it also helps for them to have a BIG monkey on their backs so they are also paranoid, dilussional, and physically depleated...but, that should be no problem in a place like Infinito, verdad?



I don't have an "angry girl". How can I get me one?
Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

Hey George,

Wanna be tortured? :)

Nahhh .. that would be cruel .. bloody hell .. I'll tell you anyways: Some of the girls you had fun with are asking about you .. lol - no - just kidding - But this is what Carlos has been doing to me for 1 year and 8 months now.

Every time I go down to MTY, I would decide it would be my last and that I ain’t never ever coming back. Then, my good friend, Carlos starts sending me notes from the girls telling me how much they miss me and how they are waiting for me to come back. I am the horse and MTY is holding the carrot.

Take my advice, George. Just hold on to the memory and treasure it. Don't tell anyone about MTY. Not even to warn them. Stay away.

Ok, so when are you coming back?

Wasted




Oh Dear, why did I ever come to Monterrey! Back in the U.K. and I just cant get the place out of my mind. Those chiquitas (no doubt spelt wrong), those 'Miss World' bodies so freely available, the Obsession buffet, El Infinito and the rest, the girl at Givinchy that turned me on like hell but I was too slow and stupid to grab, the wonderful company of Carlos and 'Wastedgman', have left me feeling like it was all just a dream! If you are a reader who is thinking of going to Monterrey - DONT GO! ... unless you want a drug in your system that you cant shake out! So far away, what do I now do, but dream and suffer!

[Member #3453]

George,

I agree that MTY is a wonderful destination. But, it is a rather expensive destination compared to many others in the World. The cost of girls is expensive compared to other worldwide destinations, destinations that would be much easier for you to travel to from the UK, IMHO.

As part of your "therapy" to get over missing MTY, I suggest that you begin to expand your horizons a bit. To help you get over the melancholy of missing MTY, start planning your next trip, devising a way to make the trip even if you have restrictions on the home front that keep you tied down. Where there's a will there's a way, verdad?

There are numerous other venues throughout the world that are as good as MTY, and from your location, being in the UK, they would possibly be more affordable to travel to, and possibly just as rewardng, and honestly, more rewarding than MTY all things considered.

If you have a chance to visit Thailand (Pattaya and Bangkok), the Philipines (Manila and AC), or Indonesia (Batam and Jakarta), you would find them to also be unbelievable destinations. Those venues are superior to MTY in the sense that they are "set-up" to monger. MTY is not really a mongering destination per se, but those other destinations have infrastructure established to make them almost like a veritable disney land of mongerdom.

From the UK, you also have the FFK's in Germany that are pretty close, and while I haven't personally visited them, I understand they are quite good. All these venues offer the MTY quality of selection, and with the exception of the FKK's in Germany, the girls are dirt cheap, and just as alluring as anything you will find in MTY.

Don't misunderstand my comments, I love MTY, and I love the "Latina" look. Fact is, I like the latina look, and attitude, maybe better than any other. I like the Asian girl look too, but nothing comes close to the Latina, both in looks and potential GFE passionate attitude, IMHO. It's just an informed bias I've developed after sampling what the world has to offer.

But, I mainly travel to MTY on such a regular basis, not because I necessarily prefer the latina look and attitude, but because it's close, and because I can still conduct business from MTY without all the complications of time zone changes, etc...mostly for all the logistical reasons. If I had the time, and were more centrally located in the world, I would definitely be traveling to these other destinations I mentioned.

Were I in your shoes, living in the UK, I would definitely spend my money on traveling to these other destinations in lieu of MTY. I wouldn't forget about MTY, but were I living in your neck of the woods, I would consider all the other possibilities first.

WastedG talked about the girls wanting him to come back to MTY, and how that motivates him to return. But, in my case, I am still getting text messages and phone calls from a girl in Thailand three years after I initially met her in Pattaya. I talk or text with her almost monthly to this day. So, the GFE is very much alive and well in Asia, and everywhere else.

Glad you enjoyed your trip to MTY....Hope to see you there sometime, or Thailand, or the PI, or Indo, or Columbia, or Costa Rica....the list is endless.


Hey George,

Wanna be tortured? :)

Nahhh .. that would be cruel .. bloody hell .. I'll tell you anyways: Some of the girls you had fun with are asking about you .. lol - no - just kidding - But this is what Carlos has been doing to me for 1 year and 8 months now.

Every time I go down to MTY, I would decide it would be my last and that I ain’t never ever coming back. Then, my good friend, Carlos starts sending me notes from the girls telling me how much they miss me and how they are waiting for me to come back. I am the horse and MTY is holding the carrot.

Take my advice, George. Just hold on to the memory and treasure it. Don't tell anyone about MTY. Not even to warn them. Stay away.

Ok, so when are you coming back?

Wasted

[Jimbo G]

Carlos,

You're great man.

I'm also form Monterrey and I will like to give my 2 cents

Regarding MP's

With what I had read in your posts you guys rather Matehuala and Infinito. I also like them and also de Fancy ones.

But recently I have discover the world of MP's in this order. And I have found one that is the best. Kind of expensive but it worth every penny.

The first I ever went was Marcella which was great cause it was not expensive and nice girls (400 pesos) here is the webpage www.pompis.com. Mx the page has realpics. I went for a while and It will not be that hard to take them to you hotel if you like and for the price you can get two.

The second was Lebaron which I think you already know. Around 650 pesos

The Third and the best Misses. Gorgeus girls. Belive me fellows the best. They have different kind of girls and the price may vary form 1600 to 2100 if you want the complete service for 1hr all the sex you can get and if you like you can take them to your hotel or just call and order. But if you go prior 8 you can get a Massage for 500 and with another 400 a BW. Did I mention that the girls were totally hot? The webpage is www.misses.com. Mx and the pics are not updated.

Carlos. Can you recommend me more places like misses? .

Saludos

[Lion Killer]

Its the best bang for the buck in the Carribean. Having just returned, I had 5 different Latina's, 5 different days, 1 hour each. Total cost, room included $150.00, Priceless.

LK

[Member #3453]

Its the best bang for the buck in the Carribean. Having just returned, I had 5 different Latina's, 5 different days, 1 hour each. Total cost, room included $150.00, Priceless.

LK

Hi LK,

Well, I haven't had the pleasure of visiting there, but the price is certainly right. What kinds of girls are available, Dominican Style or Columbian Latina Style? I am usually more partial to the brown skinned chicas, and not usually so much with the really dark skinned Dominicans.

I found some nice gems in CTY that fit the bill, but there are also a lot of girls with Dominican (african) features. Don't get me wrong, I have had great GFE from Dominican girls, but when I'm being fussy, I usually prefer to choose the other dark skinned alternative.

If that sounds racist, I apologize in advance. I know what I like, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with political correctness, or racial bias. So, tell us a little more about the scene there. I know this is the MTY board, but it's not like there is a significant amount of new information being posted here :-)

[Lion Killer]

USB,

Let me respond to you in private message about Curacao in a couple of days. I agree with you that we need to keep the local board local. But if a monger finds a special place it needs to be revealed no matter what board.

I will send you a response in your PM no later than this weekend, telling you all the details of visiting Curacao. Thank you my friend.

LK

[El Cabron 007]

I have 2 bad habits: Addiction and unwillingness to try new food.

Therefore: I think I will be staying in MTY. This is in addition to the fact that MTY is NOT a mongering town. I like the people of MTY and I have not had a single negative incident with any of the locals. In fact, I know so many people there that I must take different routes if I want to avoid someone when I am in a rush to get somewhere.

I walk back to the hotel from the "I" place and I meet 3 or 4 people that I know including taxi drivers that call out 'Hey amigo ... gringo .."

If I pass by El C place, the door man will instantly yell out to Alex and within seconds, Alex would come out asking me to come in, we have new girls, your "M" girl is here, your "K" girl is here.

The "I" place manager sets with me when I go there, he comes out with me when I have a take out to get me into a taxi. The door boys sometimes let in for free on weekends. If a new door boy tries to search me, he gets slapped.

I love MTY and I will not consider other places for now.

Wasted



George,

I agree that MTY is a wonderful destination. But, it is a rather expensive destination compared to many others in the World. The cost of girls is expensive compared to other worldwide destinations, destinations that would be much easier for you to travel to from the UK, IMHO.

As part of your "therapy" to get over missing MTY, I suggest that you begin to expand your horizons a bit. To help you get over the melancholy of missing MTY, start planning your next trip, devising a way to make the trip even if you have restrictions on the home front that keep you tied down. Where there's a will there's a way, verdad?

There are numerous other venues throughout the world that are as good as MTY, and from your location, being in the UK, they would possibly be more affordable to travel to, and possibly just as rewardng, and honestly, more rewarding than MTY all things considered.

If you have a chance to visit Thailand (Pattaya and Bangkok), the Philipines (Manila and AC), or Indonesia (Batam and Jakarta), you would find them to also be unbelievable destinations. Those venues are superior to MTY in the sense that they are "set-up" to monger. MTY is not really a mongering destination per se, but those other destinations have infrastructure established to make them almost like a veritable disney land of mongerdom.

From the UK, you also have the FFK's in Germany that are pretty close, and while I haven't personally visited them, I understand they are quite good. All these venues offer the MTY quality of selection, and with the exception of the FKK's in Germany, the girls are dirt cheap, and just as alluring as anything you will find in MTY.

Don't misunderstand my comments, I love MTY, and I love the "Latina" look. Fact is, I like the latina look, and attitude, maybe better than any other. I like the Asian girl look too, but nothing comes close to the Latina, both in looks and potential GFE passionate attitude, IMHO. It's just an informed bias I've developed after sampling what the world has to offer.

But, I mainly travel to MTY on such a regular basis, not because I necessarily prefer the latina look and attitude, but because it's close, and because I can still conduct business from MTY without all the complications of time zone changes, etc...mostly for all the logistical reasons. If I had the time, and were more centrally located in the world, I would definitely be traveling to these other destinations I mentioned.

Were I in your shoes, living in the UK, I would definitely spend my money on traveling to these other destinations in lieu of MTY. I wouldn't forget about MTY, but were I living in your neck of the woods, I would consider all the other possibilities first.

WastedG talked about the girls wanting him to come back to MTY, and how that motivates him to return. But, in my case, I am still getting text messages and phone calls from a girl in Thailand three years after I initially met her in Pattaya. I talk or text with her almost monthly to this day. So, the GFE is very much alive and well in Asia, and everywhere else.

Glad you enjoyed your trip to MTY....Hope to see you there sometime, or Thailand, or the PI, or Indo, or Columbia, or Costa Rica....the list is endless.

[Member #3453]

Staying with what you know can be much easier, but it may not be quite as much fun. I have sampled many a venue, and, frankly, I like the MTY girls the best, but maybe that's part of the whole familiarity thing.

I know it seems that I have settled on MTY, but it's more due to the fact that my personal circumstances dictate a logistically close environment where I have reason to travel, ie: business. Otherwise, I would be visiting other venues more frequently, and they would evenutally become just as familiary to me as MTY.

But, I also think the good looking girls in MTY are better looking. They are better looking, IMHO, than most of the good looking Asian girls. Plus, I find Mexican girls more charming than most Asian girls. Frankly, asian girls strike me as sexually colder than Latinas, and more mechanical in their delivery system. So, I have a natural preference for the girls in MTY, and for the girls of SA and Central America.

Not withstanding the price, I currently find the experiences in MTY to be very satisfying compared to other countries, even with respect to very strong affectionate GFE's. The environment is not as easy to navigate for a newby as you might find in Pattaya, Thailand, or the Philipines, but the experiences can be just as good, and in some instances much better. That is where I believe the familiarity issue is such an intregal part of your overall satisfaction level in MTY.

I get the same identical treatment in MTY that WastedG described. It's kind of like the theme song to Cheers. How does that song go???, something like..."Ya' wanna' go where everybody knows your name, la, la, la...." It does feel good to have that kind of familiararity, recognition, and attention.

But, I have always also wondered, even though I have never had any problems in MTY, or felt physically threatened, that having such familiarity, and being so recognizable, might not be such a good idea, for the following reasons...

A city can change incrementally, and you might not notice that it's changing with respect to it's level of safety, especially with us visiting there once or twice a month for only a few days.

Mexico City has a huge kidnapping and general crime problem, especially violent crime. I hope that MTY never becomes that kind of place. But, let's face it, Mexico City is not that far away, and the effects of criminal activity can migrate from town to town. This IS a huge issue in the US, and criminal activity has no nationality, and certainly no border (hahaha, literally).

I urge us all to stay on our guard with respect to the safety factor that can subtely change. Right now, I walk the streets in downtown MTY at 3am, and have never had any problems. And, I am well known to so many people in MTY, primariliy in the clubs, bosses, waiters, girls, but also the hotel personnel, merchants, in las pulgas, etc...I am recognized by many after having visited there each month for almost five years.

Lately, I have contemplated the wisdom of taking the "safety" of MTY so much for granted. I am starting to think twice about having such faith that MTY has always treated me so well. I am making a conscious effort to heighten my awareness when in MTY, but it's very difficult when you are as comfortable with a particular environment as I am in MTY.

Our "familiarity" and our "recognizability" is a two edged sword. Familiarity makes us feel at ease in a changing environment, and recongizability makes us an easy target for those that we might mistakenly trust. I always have to remind myself of that when visiting MTY. Especially, the girl stealing bandit known as "Carlos." (hahahah, just kidding amigomio) ;-)

When I first started coming to MTY, Carlos contacted me a number of times in an effort to hook up. But, I was quite cautious, not really knowing his character at the time. It took several attempts for us to finally meet, and several invitations on his part for me to evenutally actually go together to the clubs. I was very cautious about exposing myself to the environment in MTY, of which Carlos was a part. Of course, I did not know him then, and I was cautious about the motivations of an unknown player in MTY.

Obviously, at this juncture, we can not get rid of each other...hahahah. I am proud to know him as a friend, a completely trustworthy, loyal, personal friend. I have grown to know him quite well, and even his family. I've been to his home, we meet outside the bar scene, etc...But, he is of the upper classes in MTY. What I mean is, he is part of the establishment in Mexico (MTY), and not of the working classes where the danger level is much more potentially threatening to us as gringos.

MTY does not appear to me to have changed. Nor does is seem dangerous to me any more so than when I first started coming to town, but it can subtely change to the point that our recognition of the subtle changes is very slow in coming, which makes us more vulnerable because we anticipate no problems, making surprise attack a very real potential eventuality.

I just keep coming back to the realization that within that club environment, there must be quite a few people, waiters, bosses, and girls alike, that might be of sufficiently low character as to set up the "rich gringo" visiting MTY. This has weighed on my mind lately, and while I am not worried about it to the extent that I wish to convey that I am paranoid over it, it does induce me to contemplate the issue.

With respect to new food, I understand completely. I do not like the food in Asia, generally speaking, unless of course I am staying in an American hotel with an American culinary offering of some kind. This is especially true in Indonesia, where I find the type sea food/curry offering generally unappetizing.

American food is quite easily available in the Philipines. There is American food in Thailand, but there is also a lot of Thai food...more establishments available with Asian style food than American style food in Thailand, unless of course you're staying in the better hotels that cater to Americans.

And...of course, there are the language issues with respect to traveling to an environment where the language is totally unknown. That is NOT an issue with respect to the Philipines, but it is an issue anywhere else. So, for someone seeking variety in their travels, staying with the Spanish language countries would be easier on someone that regularly travels to MTY because they are at least somewhat familiar with the Spanish language.



I have 2 bad habits: Addiction and unwillingness to try new food.

Therefore: I think I will be staying in MTY. This is in addition to the fact that MTY is NOT a mongering town. I like the people of MTY and I have not had a single negative incident with any of the locals. In fact, I know so many people there that I must take different routes if I want to avoid someone when I am in a rush to get somewhere.

I walk back to the hotel from the "I" place and I meet 3 or 4 people that I know including taxi drivers that call out 'Hey amigo ... gringo .."

If I pass by El C place, the door man will instantly yell out to Alex and within seconds, Alex would come out asking me to come in, we have new girls, your "M" girl is here, your "K" girl is here.

The "I" place manager sets with me when I go there, he comes out with me when I have a take out to get me into a taxi. The door boys sometimes let in for free on weekends. If a new door boy tries to search me, he gets slapped.

I love MTY and I will not consider other places for now.

Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

Thank you USB. You understand. You elaborate, you dig.

5 years?

But I still don't trust Carlos. :) He took My "I" place "J" girl. He claims he saw her first. And I want her back. 'Her back'. He can have her front.

Love you Carlos. You're a great friend to have.

Wasted


Staying with what you know can be much easier, but it may not be quite as much fun. I have sampled many a venue, and, frankly, I like the MTY girls the best, but maybe that's part of the whole familiarity thing.

I know it seems that I have settled on MTY, but it's more due to the fact that my personal circumstances dictate a logistically close environment where I have reason to travel, ie: business. Otherwise, I would be visiting other venues more frequently, and they would evenutally become just as familiary to me as MTY.

But, I also think the good looking girls in MTY are better looking. They are better looking, IMHO, than most of the good looking Asian girls. Plus, I find Mexican girls more charming than most Asian girls. Frankly, asian girls strike me as sexually colder than Latinas, and more mechanical in their delivery system. So, I have a natural preference for the girls in MTY, and for the girls of SA and Central America.

Not withstanding the price, I currently find the experiences in MTY to be very satisfying compared to other countries, even with respect to very strong affectionate GFE's. The environment is not as easy to navigate for a newby as you might find in Pattaya, Thailand, or the Philipines, but the experiences can be just as good, and in some instances much better. That is where I believe the familiarity issue is such an intregal part of your overall satisfaction level in MTY.

I get the same identical treatment in MTY that WastedG described. It's kind of like the theme song to Cheers. How does that song go???, something like..."Ya' wanna' go where everybody knows your name, la, la, la...." It does feel good to have that kind of familiararity, recognition, and attention.

But, I have always also wondered, even though I have never had any problems in MTY, or felt physically threatened, that having such familiarity, and being so recognizable, might not be such a good idea, for the following reasons...

A city can change incrementally, and you might not notice that it's changing with respect to it's level of safety, especially with us visiting there once or twice a month for only a few days.

Mexico City has a huge kidnapping and general crime problem, especially violent crime. I hope that MTY never becomes that kind of place. But, let's face it, Mexico City is not that far away, and the effects of criminal activity can migrate from town to town. This IS a huge issue in the US, and criminal activity has no nationality, and certainly no border (hahaha, literally).

I urge us all to stay on our guard with respect to the safety factor that can subtely change. Right now, I walk the streets in downtown MTY at 3am, and have never had any problems. And, I am well known to so many people in MTY, primariliy in the clubs, bosses, waiters, girls, but also the hotel personnel, merchants, in las pulgas, etc...I am recognized by many after having visited there each month for almost five years.

Lately, I have contemplated the wisdom of taking the "safety" of MTY so much for granted. I am starting to think twice about having such faith that MTY has always treated me so well. I am making a conscious effort to heighten my awareness when in MTY, but it's very difficult when you are as comfortable with a particular environment as I am in MTY.

Our "familiarity" and our "recognizability" is a two edged sword. Familiarity makes us feel at ease in a changing environment, and recongizability makes us an easy target for those that we might mistakenly trust. I always have to remind myself of that when visiting MTY. Especially, the girl stealing bandit known as "Carlos." (hahahah, just kidding amigomio) ;-)

When I first started coming to MTY, Carlos contacted me a number of times in an effort to hook up. But, I was quite cautious, not really knowing his character at the time. It took several attempts for us to finally meet, and several invitations on his part for me to evenutally actually go together to the clubs. I was very cautious about exposing myself to the environment in MTY, of which Carlos was a part. Of course, I did not know him then, and I was cautious about the motivations of an unknown player in MTY.

Obviously, at this juncture, we can not get rid of each other...hahahah. I am proud to know him as a friend, a completely trustworthy, loyal, personal friend. I have grown to know him quite well, and even his family. I've been to his home, we meet outside the bar scene, etc...But, he is of the upper classes in MTY. What I mean is, he is part of the establishment in Mexico (MTY), and not of the working classes where the danger level is much more potentially threatening to us as gringos.

MTY does not appear to me to have changed. Nor does is seem dangerous to me any more so than when I first started coming to town, but it can subtely change to the point that our recognition of the subtle changes is very slow in coming, which makes us more vulnerable because we anticipate no problems, making surprise attack a very real potential eventuality.

I just keep coming back to the realization that within that club environment, there must be quite a few people, waiters, bosses, and girls alike, that might be of sufficiently low character as to set up the "rich gringo" visiting MTY. This has weighed on my mind lately, and while I am not worried about it to the extent that I wish to convey that I am paranoid over it, it does induce me to contemplate the issue.

With respect to new food, I understand completely. I do not like the food in Asia, generally speaking, unless of course I am staying in an American hotel with an American culinary offering of some kind. This is especially true in Indonesia, where I find the type sea food/curry offering generally unappetizing.

American food is quite easily available in the Philipines. There is American food in Thailand, but there is also a lot of Thai food...more establishments available with Asian style food than American style food in Thailand, unless of course you're staying in the better hotels that cater to Americans.

And...of course, there are the language issues with respect to traveling to an environment where the language is totally unknown. That is NOT an issue with respect to the Philipines, but it is an issue anywhere else. So, for someone seeking variety in their travels, staying with the Spanish language countries would be easier on someone that regularly travels to MTY because they are at least somewhat familiar with the Spanish language.

[MonterreyDude]

And you forgot to mention... language.
It is easier to break the language barrier here than at SEA.
All of the guys visiting Mty... no problem at all trying to comunicate.




Staying with what you know can be much easier, but it may not be quite as much fun. I have sampled many a venue, and, frankly, I like the MTY girls the best, but maybe that's part of the whole familiarity thing.

I know it seems that I have settled on MTY, but it's more due to the fact that my personal circumstances dictate a logistically close environment where I have reason to travel, ie: business. Otherwise, I would be visiting other venues more frequently, and they would evenutally become just as familiary to me as MTY.

But, I also think the good looking girls in MTY are better looking. They are better looking, IMHO, than most of the good looking Asian girls. Plus, I find Mexican girls more charming than most Asian girls. Frankly, asian girls strike me as sexually colder than Latinas, and more mechanical in their delivery system. So, I have a natural preference for the girls in MTY, and for the girls of SA and Central America.

..................


.

[MonterreyDude]

I saw the J girl first.
As a matter of fact, I saw ALL the girls first.
That I allow you to have fun with some, well, that is the general truth.


PS: Do I WISH that was true!!!



Thank you USB. You understand. You elaborate, you dig.

5 years?

But I still don't trust Carlos. :) He took My "I" place "J" girl. He claims he saw her first. And I want her back. 'Her back'. He can have her front.

Love you Carlos. You're a great friend to have.

Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

I can just see us setting at the usual table (Carlos agreed it is the best seat in the house) with all the girls passing by. Why do days have 24 hours?

There are a couple of girls none of us, Carlos, USB nor I, ever approached that I have my eyes on. One of them is "J"'s sister but does not have the fine a$$ "J" has. The other one is the barb girl. The one sweating perfume. Remember her Carlos? I think she's very hot. The girls don't like her, which is a good sign. One more with long soft black her that never smiles but still looks classy. I would not mind being seen with her on Madero.

Wasted


I saw the J girl first.
As a matter of fact, I saw ALL the girls first.
That I allow you to have fun with some, well, that is the general truth.


PS: Do I WISH that was true!!!

[Member #3453]

Well, you may not think I have my eyes on Barbie, but I have already cultivated her for future salidas. She "LOVES MEeeeeeeeeeeeee." You see, last time, on my last day in town, I was in the "I" place and looking for other "victims." So, there barbie stands, gawking at me, then smiling really big, as if to say, "why don't you pay more attention to me?"

So, I smiled back, and took her up to the privados. Anyway, I have actually had her in the privados a number of times, and she is always quite sweet to me, very interested, very amorosa, etc...but, frankly, I have never really liked her fake boobs. So, I have always overlooked her with respect to salidas. Even when she works occassionally at the "EC" place, I have just talked to her in the privados or hugged her on the main floor. But, I just never really knew if I wanted to take her on salidas.

Well, this last time, I just so happened to have some of my cheap Walmart perfumes on me, one that I was looking to give to one of the girls as a small Christmas regalo. But, I had arrived at the "I" place late, and all of my regulars were gone, with the exception of "angry girl," and I wasn't about to try and reward her recent behavior. Anyway, I decided that Barbie has always been sweet to me, so what the hell, I decided to take her into the privados and give her the perfume as a little token christmas gift.

This particular bottle of "Shania" is a real bargain guys. It is only $2.99 at Walmart this time of year because it's offered as a stocking stuffer. I also picked up some "Exclamation." But, there are about ten different perfumes offered in this same packaging and price range for stocking stuffers. I remember taking some of it with me last year, about (20) bottles when I went to Asia. It went over really well, and it's soooooo cheap!

Anyway, we all know how much Carlos loves to have girls near him wearing plenty of perfume, so I decided to spread it all around MTY to keep him away from all my girlfriends, and to even keep him away from his own girlfriends too, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Carlos, it will either be Charlie-White, Exclamation, or Shania. Members of Carlos' sacred flock now have it, hahahahahaha!!! Carlos just loves it when they spread it all over his shirts so that he smells to high heaven, verdad? I am so diabolical!!!

Charlie is a really nice fragrance from my generation, and most of the young girls in Mexico are unfamiliar with it. But, I like the fragrance. Charlie-White is a sweet frangrance, but very subtle. It is offered right now in a two bottle set, with one bottle being slightly smaller than the other. I had purchased the slightly more expensive stuff for my favorites in the clubs. If you purchase the two bottle set, the total cost is around $8.99, but that's for two bottles of unequal size, one bottle of respectable size, and the other of a smaller size, but two bottles none-the-less for regalos. So, your amortized cost for two seperate regalos is still pretty cheap. I had decided to give the larger bottle to the important girls, and give the smaller bottle to the 2nd string girls.

When I mentioned it to Carlos, he remembered it as the fragrance that one of the Charlie's Angels hawked on television a number of years ago. It was one of the blonde girls, don't remember her name, but she was quite a fox in those days....NOOOOOO, not Farah, one of the other blondes...named "Chris" maybe...don't remember for sure.

Anyway, back to Barbie...I took her into the privados, gave her the small regalo perfume, Exclamation, I think. Anyway, immediately afterward she starts in...thanking me so much, telling me that she wants to be with me so much, asking me to "take her out sometime, please!" Anyway, she did say some really sweet things to me. She told me that everybody in the Infinito says such nice things about me, all the girls say how I am such a nice guy...etc...ain't that sweet. I'm sure "angry girl" was one of the first to confirm that with her, hahahaha!!! Anyway, suffice it to say, she is really HOT for me, so you'll all have to leave her alone now or run the risk of contracting the Spongebob cutties.


The other one is the barb girl. The one sweating perfume. Remember her Carlos? I think she's very hot. The girls don't like her, which is a good sign. One more with long soft black her that never smiles but still looks classy. I would not mind being seen with her on Madero. Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

Why not give all the girls fine perfumes? lol - that was good USB. I should've thought of it earlier.

I'll go to Walmart and buy a load of them cheap perfumes and give them to all the girls at the "I". Yes, we all know how much Carlos loves to set with girls dripping with perfumes.

USB, you can have Barb. I'll start sending you my messages through her. Search deep. You'll find them in the back. lol.

I think you are talking about a different girl. As a matter of fact, I know you are. So we're cool.

Wasted.


Well, you may not think I have my eyes on Barbie, but I have already cultivated her for future salidas. She "LOVES MEeeeeeeeeeeeee." You see, last time, on my last day in town, I was in the "I" place and looking for other "victims." So, there barbie stands, gawking at me, then smiling really big, as if to say, "why don't you pay more attention to me?"

So, I smiled back, and took her up to the privados. Anyway, I have actually had her in the privados a number of times, and she is always quite sweet to me, very interested, very amorosa, etc...but, frankly, I have never really liked her fake boobs. So, I have always overlooked her with respect to salidas. Even when she works occassionally at the "EC" place, I have just talked to her in the privados or hugged her on the main floor. But, I just never really knew if I wanted to take her on salidas.

Well, this last time, I just so happened to have some of my cheap Walmart perfumes on me, one that I was looking to give to one of the girls as a small Christmas regalo. But, I had arrived at the "I" place late, and all of my regulars were gone, with the exception of "angry girl," and I wasn't about to try and reward her recent behavior. Anyway, I decided that Barbie has always been sweet to me, so what the hell, I decided to take her into the privados and give her the perfume as a little token christmas gift.

This particular bottle of "Shania" is a real bargain guys. It is only $2.99 at Walmart this time of year because it's offered as a stocking stuffer. I also picked up some "Exclamation." But, there are about ten different perfumes offered in this same packaging and price range for stocking stuffers. I remember taking some of it with me last year, about (20) bottles when I went to Asia. It went over really well, and it's soooooo cheap!

Anyway, we all know how much Carlos loves to have girls near him wearing plenty of perfume, so I decided to spread it all around MTY to keep him away from all my girlfriends, and to even keep him away from his own girlfriends too, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Carlos, it will either be Charlie-White, Exclamation, or Shania. Members of Carlos' sacred flock now have it, hahahahahaha!!! Carlos just loves it when they spread it all over his shirts so that he smells to high heaven, verdad? I am so diabolical!!!

Charlie is a really nice fragrance from my generation, and most of the young girls in Mexico are unfamiliar with it. But, I like the fragrance. Charlie-White is a sweet frangrance, but very subtle. It is offered right now in a two bottle set, with one bottle being slightly smaller than the other. I had purchased the slightly more expensive stuff for my favorites in the clubs. If you purchase the two bottle set, the total cost is around $8.99, but that's for two bottles of unequal size, one bottle of respectable size, and the other of a smaller size, but two bottles none-the-less for regalos. So, your amortized cost for two seperate regalos is still pretty cheap. I had decided to give the larger bottle to the important girls, and give the smaller bottle to the 2nd string girls.

When I mentioned it to Carlos, he remembered it as the fragrance that one of the Charlie's Angels hawked on television a number of years ago. It was one of the blonde girls, don't remember her name, but she was quite a fox in those days....NOOOOOO, not Farah, one of the other blondes...named "Chris" maybe...don't remember for sure.

Anyway, back to Barbie...I took her into the privados, gave her the small regalo perfume, Exclamation, I think. Anyway, immediately afterward she starts in...thanking me so much, telling me that she wants to be with me so much, asking me to "take her out sometime, please!" Anyway, she did say some really sweet things to me. She told me that everybody in the Infinito says such nice things about me, all the girls say how I am such a nice guy...etc...ain't that sweet. I'm sure "angry girl" was one of the first to confirm that with her, hahahaha!!! Anyway, suffice it to say, she is really HOT for me, so you'll all have to leave her alone now or run the risk of contracting the Spongebob cutties.

[El Cabron 007]

Goddamn Lil Mama
U know u thick as hell u know what im sayin
Matter fact
After the club u know what im talkin bout
Me and my ****** gone be together u know what im sayin
I aint gon worry bout them really though
Im just lookin at u
Yea u know
U got them big ass hips god damn!

Got the body of a goddess
Got eyes butter pecan brown I see you girl
Droppin Low
She Comin Down from the ceiling
To tha floo
Yea She Know what she doin
Yea yea yea
She doin that right thang
Yea yea yea yea ea
I Need to get her over to my crib and do that night thang
Cause I'm N Luv wit a stripper

She poppin she rollin she rollin
She climbin that pole and
Im N Luv with a stripper
She trippin she playin she playin
Im not goin nowhere girl im stayin
Im N Luv with a stripper

Out of all the girls she be the hottest
Like n the way she break it down I see u girl
Spinnin wide
And She lookin at me
Right in my eyes
Yea She got my attention
yea yea yea
Did I forget to mention
I Need to get her over to my crib and do that night thang
Cause Im N Luv Wit a Stripper

She poppin she rollin she rollin
She climbin that pole and
Im N Luv with a stripper
She trippin she playin she playin
Im not goin nowhere girl im stayin
Im N Luv with a stripper

She can pop it she can lock it
Teddy Penderass down I'm bout to see this sexy girl
In My bed
She don't know what she is doin
To my head
Yea She turnin tricks on me
Yea Yea Yea
She dont even know me
Yea yea yea ea
I'd have got her over to my crib to do that night thing
Cause I'm N Luv Wit a Stripper

She poppin she rollin she rollin
She climbin that pole and
Im N Luv with a stripper
She trippin she playin she playin
Im not goin nowhere girl im stayin
Im N Luv with a stripper

Thank you T-Pain. Well done ...

Wasted

[Lion Killer]

I agree its so much easier to stay with your comfort zone and not venture out in the world. Most here are not mongers as you and I. Pretty much they are just a one place wonder.

We have researched the world. Glad to have another opinion on the delights of the whole world than just MTY.

Carlos, I have to beg to differ my friend, there are more english speaking ladies in Asia than in MTY. I know a fair amout of spanish but its really hard to find english speaking ladies in MTY.

PS: Cheap perfume? Not an option unless ur cheap?



LK

[Member #3453]

PS: Cheap perfume? Not an option unless ur cheap?
LK


No, the perfumes themselves are not necessarily cheap, but they are made less expensive through packaging, and through the buying prowess of Walmart. Anyway, the girls really appreciated them.

But, you are right about one thing...I am cheap. Especially with respect to giving regalos to the 2nd string when I know that by giving them gifts it will not probably yield a much better GFE experience than if I gave them nothing at all. On the other hand, with my favoritas, I am more generous. A few of them received the more expensively packaged, full sized version. But, not many if them...especially when there is no return on investment anticipated.

[MonterreyDude]

NO PERFUMES!!!!
NO NO NO NO NONO NONO NONONO NOOOOOOOOO!
YOu guys are crazy!!!
Not even joking should you considere that as a gift!!!!

By the way, Barbie... turns out she's married and I have a bad vibe from her: one of my comoderators of my Yahoo group saw her and took her to the privados. Turns out she was having her period and she just smeared my friend with blood: pants, shirt, underwear, skin.
She just up and left and didn't care how he fared afterwards.
She'd the kind of girl that doesn't care how the customer fares with her.
Oh, and she's not 18, she's 23 with 2 o 3 kids.




Why not give all the girls fine perfumes? lol - that was good USB. I should've thought of it earlier.

I'll go to Walmart and buy a load of them cheap perfumes and give them to all the girls at the "I". Yes, we all know how much Carlos loves to set with girls dripping with perfumes.

USB, you can have Barb. I'll start sending you my messages through her. Search deep. You'll find them in the back. lol.

I think you are talking about a different girl. As a matter of fact, I know you are. So we're cool.

Wasted.

[Member #3453]

Carlos,

With respect to Barbie, I remember you telling me about that incident. But, as I mentioned before, that's why I haven't taken her out yet. She may be married, but she WILL go on salida.

I must admit that after hearing about that incident, and after getting some conflicting vibes off of her, I could never really put my finger on it (I may have put my finger in it, though, hahaha), but I just never really had the desire to bar fine her. I always thought I was reluctant because of her fake boobs, but maybe there is more to it, something else turning me off about her...perhaps it is just not in the chemistry afterall.

With respect to perfumes, I have a good excuse that I keep in the back of my mind for times when the evidence of perfumes might cause me embarrassment, or worse. Of course, when I'm in MTY, I don't really have problems with that issue, but when returning home, I have to watch it because the aroma of MTY lingers on my clothing.

After a week of being in MTY, my jacket and clothes sometimes have the tell-tale aroma of girls being all over me, perfume, smoke, makeup, etc...So, I am very systematic about keeping certain clothing segregated from the rest of "uncontaminated" clothing when packing my suitcase for the return trip.

But, with respect to perfume, especially on my jacket, I always keep the excuse handy that I had to place the jacket in the overhead compartment with the purse and jacket of some female passenger, causing my jacket to take on the pungent aroma of perfume. These stinky "perfume wearers" can put their garments next to yours, and your garment will wreak to high heaven of their perfumed aroma. A good excuse for having such evidence slip through your detection system. I complain about this all the time on the home front, so that in the event it occurs, I can easily draw upon it in a pinch.

A funny thought just entered my mind. Perhaps, upon times of extreme melancholy after being gone from MTY, one could keep some "MTY Clothing" on hand to ease the frustration of one's exile. One could keep some MTY stinky clothing in a plastic bag, and inhale it's contents...kind of like one of those guys with the underwear fetish, hahahaha!!! Well, just a thought :-)


NO PERFUMES!!!!
NO NO NO NO NONO NONO NONONO NOOOOOOOOO!
YOu guys are crazy!!!
Not even joking should you considere that as a gift!!!!

By the way, Barbie... turns out she's married and I have a bad vibe from her: one of my comoderators of my Yahoo group saw her and took her to the privados. Turns out she was having her period and she just smeared my friend with blood: pants, shirt, underwear, skin.
She just up and left and didn't care how he fared afterwards.
She'd the kind of girl that doesn't care how the customer fares with her.
Oh, and she's not 18, she's 23 with 2 o 3 kids.

[MonterreyDude]

Why I mentioned her being married is simply cause that limits them a lot.
For example Grecia at the Obsession. When she married or "married" her dude (or boyfriend) she stopped on the spot being "good" to me as I knew it.
They do not give their all to a customer, they put checks on their way they act.
Besides and really... she is not that good at the "I" place. As a matter of fact, many have been dissapointed when they pick her up and notice it is not my G girl from that club.



Carlos,

With respect to Barbie, I remember you telling me about that incident. But, as I mentioned before, that's why I haven't taken her out yet. She may be married, but she WILL go on salida.

I must admit that after hearing about that incident, and after getting some conflicting vibes off of her, I could never really put my finger on it (I may have put my finger in it, though, hahaha), but I just never really had the desire to bar fine her. I always thought I was reluctant because of her fake boobs, but maybe there is more to it, something else turning me off about her...perhaps it is just not in the chemistry afterall.

With respect to perfumes, I have a good excuse that I keep in the back of my mind for times when the evidence of perfumes might cause me embarrassment, or worse. Of course, when I'm in MTY, I don't really have problems with that issue, but when returning home, I have to watch it because the aroma of MTY lingers on my clothing.

After a week of being in MTY, my jacket and clothes sometimes have the tell-tale aroma of girls being all over me, perfume, smoke, makeup, etc...So, I am very systematic about keeping certain clothing segregated from the rest of "uncontaminated" clothing when packing my suitcase for the return trip.

But, with respect to perfume, especially on my jacket, I always keep the excuse handy that I had to place the jacket in the overhead compartment with the purse and jacket of some female passenger, causing my jacket to take on the pungent aroma of perfume. These stinky "perfume wearers" can put their garments next to yours, and your garment will wreak to high heaven of their perfumed aroma. A good excuse for having such evidence slip through your detection system. I complain about this all the time on the home front, so that in the event it occurs, I can easily draw upon it in a pinch.

A funny thought just entered my mind. Perhaps, upon times of extreme melancholy after being gone from MTY, one could keep some "MTY Clothing" on hand to ease the frustration of one's exile. One could keep some MTY stinky clothing in a plastic bag, and inhale it's contents...kind of like one of those guys with the underwear fetish, hahahaha!!! Well, just a thought :-)

[Member #3453]

Yes, that does limit them. I have never really tried to take her out on salida. You're probably right about the married part. It would probably result in my own frustration. Plus, as I mentioned before, I have always had my doubts that she is my type anyway, which had always made me reluctant to act on trying to take her anywhere beyond the privados in the past.

I have similiar suspicions about angry girl at the "I"place. She always told me she was not married, or committed to a boyfriend. But, I always believed she was lying to me about something, especially toward the end. Like you said, you can always sense something has changed. I can't prove that angry girl is "hitched," either married or a boyfriend, but I began to suspect something was not right about eight months ago. Of course, it may have been the monkey on her back sending me those signals, or perhaps it was just a combination of the two.

The last time I was with angry girl she was more sexually passionate and animalistic with me then than she had ever been before. Frankly, this may sound odd, but it's what turned me off about her even more the last time I was with her. She only wanted me for my body, hahahaha!!!

You know me, I like romance and tender affection interjected into my liasons. When all she wanted is HOT SEX, it turned me off. That's why her behavior was such a puzzle to me. On the one hand, she was always what I liked, only to evolve into some kind of demonic sex maniac.

I can't believe I am actually complaining about that, hahaha!!!


Why I mentioned her being married is simply cause that limits them a lot.
For example Grecia at the Obsession. When she married or "married" her dude (or boyfriend) she stopped on the spot being "good" to me as I knew it.
They do not give their all to a customer, they put checks on their way they act.
Besides and really... she is not that good at the "I" place. As a matter of fact, many have been dissapointed when they pick her up and notice it is not my G girl from that club.

[El Cabron 007]

What a win-win situation. Being married to a working girl? She comes home to a husband after she's done a dozen men? Which will it it be? Bring home more experience and new ways to please her man or "get the f**k out of my face, I had been with enough jerks already"

And how the hell does the man feel knowing his girl is out pleasing other men? It is worth the money she brings home? Yes, I know some of the girls who have steady boyfriends, no husbands, and I can't, for the life of me, stand seeing my girl with another man. As a matter of fact, when I was serious with my D girl, her orders were clear. She is not to even talk to another client so long as I was in the club. I just could not stomach it.

I avoid asking girls about what they will and will not do upstairs. Their answers were that they only do this and that with me. But that only sickened me more because I know she is BS'ing.

I dated a married woman once in my college years and it was a thrill until one day she tells me she wants to leave her husband to marry me. That was the last time I wanted to see her. I will romance her but will not have her carry my children.

USB: I picked up another pocket rocket today - cheapest ever. I think I will donate it to the Casino girl. I still remember her sweet acting face when she begged to keep it. She can have it.

Wasted



Yes, that does limit them. I have never really tried to take her out on salida. You're probably right about the married part. It would probably result in my own frustration. Plus, as I mentioned before, I have always had my doubts that she is my type anyway, which had always made me reluctant to act on trying to take her anywhere beyond the privados in the past.

I have similiar suspicions about angry girl at the "I"place. She always told me she was not married, or committed to a boyfriend. But, I always believed she was lying to me about something, especially toward the end. Like you said, you can always sense something has changed. I can't prove that angry girl is "hitched," either married or a boyfriend, but I began to suspect something was not right about eight months ago. Of course, it may have been the monkey on her back sending me those signals, or perhaps it was just a combination of the two.

The last time I was with angry girl she was more sexually passionate and animalistic with me then than she had ever been before. Frankly, this may sound odd, but it's what turned me off about her even more the last time I was with her. She only wanted me for my body, hahahaha!!!

You know me, I like romance and tender affection interjected into my liasons. When all she wanted is HOT SEX, it turned me off. That's why her behavior was such a puzzle to me. On the one hand, she was always what I liked, only to evolve into some kind of demonic sex maniac.

I can't believe I am actually complaining about that, hahaha!!!

[Member #3453]

wastedg,

before i came to mty last time, i picked up the genuine pocket rocket at one of the local stores here in the us, and i also purchased a cheaper off-brand version, one of the white colored ones, just thinking that perhaps it would be a good backup.

believe it or not, i let one of the girls see it at the harem, my "n" girl, and she broke it within seconds, breaking off the little tab that sticks out to make a connection. it is always that little metal tab that breaks. so, another one is history. i will no longer purchase the cheap version for terrorizing in the clubs. it simply will not hold up. now, if you want to use it strictly in the privacy of your hotel room, then i think it may have some merit.

anyway, when i was purchasing the pocket rockets, i also purchased two small vibrators, one that has a slightly curved head that functions as a clit stimulator, and one that is simply a rounded head, relatively similar in shape to the pocket rocket, only smaller.

both of these vibrators are about the same size as your little finger, and they are constructed differently than the pocket rocket type, so there is not a tab to break off. also, they are more easily hidden in your pocket, or shoe, or wherever, for smuggling into some of the clubs.

in the past, i've had trouble getting the pocket rocket past the guards in some of the clubs because of its size. of course, there is not a problem in the places that know us, but some of these bouncers take their jobs just a little too seriously. i mean, it's not really a weapon...or is it? :-)

both of these smaller types run off of watch batteries, three at a time. the sales clerk was kind enough to inform me that the watch battery powered versions really eat batteries quickly, which can be kind of expensive, three watch batteries at a time. but, when i was in mty with them, i noticed that they held up very well in the clubs, and in the room, and that they seemed to last relatively long without having to change batteries. so, i will probably only use the genuine pocket rocket in the room from now on, and start to use the smaller versions for terrorizing in the clubs.

with respect to philosophizing about the girls...

any man that would knowingly permit his wife or girlfriend to work in that environment, allowing numerous men to screw them, giving blow jobs, being groped all night, isn't much of a man, and the girls know it. but, like everything else, they remain married or attached for the sake of preserving their families. i'm sure the girls see how much more difficult life could be if they were completely alone, especially as a female in mexico. the evidence of that is starkly conveyed to them in all their peers around them that are single mothers having to go it alone.

plus, so many of the single girls have told me that there just aren't any decent prospects to select from. they see their pool of eligible men, men of acceptable character, as almost non-existent. so, many seem to have lost hope that they will ever really find someone who is worthy of any kind of legitimate effort. so, they strip in the clubs, make good money, raise the kids they mistakenly had at a younger age, and have very little optomistic hope that they will ever have a legitimatized relationship.

a lot of the void the girls are experiencing in finding acceptable prospects has to do with the class structure in mexico, skin color, affluence, etc...this influence that mexican society has on the girls directly relates to gfe for us as gringos, and it directly makes the girls emotionally open to actually desiring to be with us, possibly feeling something for us that they might not normally feel were we mexican clients.

so many of them are disillusioned with the prospect of actually finding a legitimate, committed, faithful husband or boyfriend that they have all but given up on the idea that he even exists. many girls have told me that the love of their children is what fills the void, and that they are not interested in a committed adult relationship because they have lost all hope that their idealized man even exists.

i also think that many of these girls have a particular goal in mind with respect to their having to work in the clubs. they want to buy a house, and bank some money for the future before they get too old to use their only profitable skill. most of the girls in the clubs are totally illiterate, or at best, borderline illiterate, and they must realize that their prospects for making any money later in life are very slim. so, they do what they do now, because later life promises to be pretty austere otherwise.

many of the girls are originally from much smaller communities in other parts of mexico, and they have come to mty for the express purpose of making as much money as they can. their families and friends do not know what they do, and the girls would be horrified if the truth were ever disclosed. so, it's my opionion that many of them remain unattached because they are living a double life and don't want the details of their vocational choices to permiate back home, or even back into the communities where they live. so, many of them live a cloaked lifestyle. nobody knows what they do, so they live life kind of close to the vest. most of the girls live pretty far away from the clubs, san nicholas, guadelupe, etc...and the life they lead at home is closely guarded so their peers in their "legimate" lives back home or in their far away pueblos, don't find out.

i always try to treat the girls like our meetings are legitimately romantic, and caring. i think that some of the girls, because of the reasons i've already illustrated above, crave to be treated well, in the way that they fantisize they want to be treated, something that is not available to them from most of the guys they know that are in their socio-economic class. that, imho, is the key to whatever gfe success i may be having. i know it sounds crazy, but we as gringos can provide them something that they do not routinely get from their male peers in mexican society.

don't underestimate the "gringo factor" in believing whether you can be more to them than you might wisely believe otherwise would happen in a p4p situation. i know it's foolish to normally project in my own mind that i might be offering them what they romantically crave, but i have so many instances where it seems i am striking a nerve with some of them. and, i believe it's directly tied to my being a gringo.

if i were a mexican male, speaking the language fluently, i firmly believe i would not have the edge that i believe i have with some of them. it's like some of them are dying to be with a white boy (a gringo), and being from the us is just icing on the cake, a catalyst to gfe.

i know this may sound racist when i talk in these terms, but i can see the interest level in the mexican girl for the gringo. i have even had some girls tell me they want to be with me because i am a white boy, some have offered to go with me for todo la noche for free.

in cases where money does change hands, there is the prospect that the gringo has money, etc...but, i'm talking about the depth of experience after the business part of the arrangement is settled. i am talking about the girl's true feelings deep inside, irrespective of the money motivator. i firmly believe those feelings are magnified for the gringo in some girls.

i have contemplated this truth for years. over the course of five years of going to mty, i've concluded that the gringo factor is what is making mty a better gfe venue for me than some other venues i have visited. frankly, i can't deny the gringo factor, even when i objectively try to discount it when i'm in other venues. i've sensed the gfe reaction of girls in thailand, indonesia, the pi, etc...and the gringo factor, as it relates to legitimate desire in the girls, and the subsequent gfe that results, is strongest in mty and coliumbia compared to anywhere i've ever been in the world. i can attribute this to only one thing, the gringo factor.

for my part, i have a lot of sincerely felt affection for my favorite girls. i always try to convey that feeling to them so i can express to them that they are more to me than just a sexual release, that they are more emotionally than they might otherwise imagine. in some cases, i think my girlfriends have actually become closer to me than most of their other clients. i have been asked to the homes of some of them, and i doubt they would normally permit a client to accompany them to their homes if we did not have something a little more than what they routinely experience.

i might be totally delusional with respect to believing that i am more to some of them than just a client, but i prefer to envision them thinking of me as a fun friend, a surrogate legitimate boyfriend, rather than strictly an object of their work.

of course, i say all of this with pause, realizing that my own status with them is almost like a dream. it's kind of like going to "fantasy island," enjoying the fantasy while i'm there, trying to fill the role of legitimate romantic boyfriend when i'm with them, and then being conveniently wisked out of their lives until next month. frankly, i think it's the perfect position for me to be in. no responsibilities to them when i am not there, and great gfe's when i am there.


what a win-win situation. being married to a working girl? she comes home to a husband after she's done a dozen men? which will it it be? bring home more experience and new ways to please her man or "get the f**k out of my face, i had been with enough jerks already"

and how the hell does the man feel knowing his girl is out pleasing other men? it is worth the money she brings home? yes, i know some of the girls who have steady boyfriends, no husbands, and i can't, for the life of me, stand seeing my girl with another man. as a matter of fact, when i was serious with my d girl, her orders were clear. she is not to even talk to another client so long as i was in the club. i just could not stomach it.

i avoid asking girls about what they will and will not do upstairs. their answers were that they only do this and that with me. but that only sickened me more because i know she is bs'ing.

i dated a married woman once in my college years and it was a thrill until one day she tells me she wants to leave her husband to marry me. that was the last time i wanted to see her. i will romance her but will not have her carry my children.

usb: i picked up another pocket rocket today - cheapest ever. i think i will donate it to the casino girl. i still remember her sweet acting face when she begged to keep it. she can have it.

wasted

[Jimbo G]

unospongebob

with all the respect, i think you put too much brain to the situation.

at the end of the day you are one of their best clients that's all. talking in my experience, i may be wrong. i'd never have a favorita or a novia. i get tired, and look for fresh meat.

carlos, sorry i ask again, do you know any other mp like misses? or maybe better?

thanks


wastedg,

before i came to mty last time, i picked up the genuine pocket rocket at one of the local stores here in the us, and i also purchased a cheaper off-brand version, one of the white colored ones, just thinking that perhaps it would be a good backup.

believe it or not, i let one of the girls see it at the harem, my "n" girl, and she broke it within seconds, breaking off the little tab that sticks out to make a connection. it is always that little metal tab that breaks. so, another one is history. i will no longer purchase the cheap version for terrorizing in the clubs. it simply will not hold up. now, if you want to use it strictly in the privacy of your hotel room, then i think it may have some merit.

anyway, when i was purchasing the pocket rockets, i also purchased two small vibrators, one that has a slightly curved head that functions as a clit stimulator, and one that is simply a rounded head, relatively similar in shape to the pocket rocket, only smaller.

both of these vibrators are about the same size as your little finger, and they are constructed differently than the pocket rocket type, so there is not a tab to break off. also, they are more easily hidden in your pocket, or shoe, or wherever, for smuggling into some of the clubs.

in the past, i've had trouble getting the pocket rocket past the guards in some of the clubs because of its size. of course, there is not a problem in the places that know us, but some of these bouncers take their jobs just a little too seriously. i mean, it's not really a weapon...or is it? :-)

both of these smaller types run off of watch batteries, three at a time. the sales clerk was kind enough to inform me that the watch battery powered versions really eat batteries quickly, which can be kind of expensive, three watch batteries at a time. but, when i was in mty with them, i noticed that they held up very well in the clubs, and in the room, and that they seemed to last relatively long without having to change batteries. so, i will probably only use the genuine pocket rocket in the room from now on, and start to use the smaller versions for terrorizing in the clubs.

with respect to philosophizing about the girls...

any man that would knowingly permit his wife or girlfriend to work in that environment, allowing numerous men to screw them, giving blow jobs, being groped all night, isn't much of a man, and the girls know it. but, like everything else, they remain married or attached for the sake of preserving their families. i'm sure the girls see how much more difficult life could be if they were completely alone, especially as a female in mexico. the evidence of that is starkly conveyed to them in all their peers around them that are single mothers having to go it alone.

plus, so many of the single girls have told me that there just aren't any decent prospects to select from. they see their pool of eligible men, men of acceptable character, as almost non-existent. so, many seem to have lost hope that they will ever really find someone who is worthy of any kind of legitimate effort. so, they strip in the clubs, make good money, raise the kids they mistakenly had at a younger age, and have very little optomistic hope that they will ever have a legitimatized relationship.

a lot of the void the girls are experiencing in finding acceptable prospects has to do with the class structure in mexico, skin color, affluence, etc...this influence that mexican society has on the girls directly relates to gfe for us as gringos, and it directly makes the girls emotionally open to actually desiring to be with us, possibly feeling something for us that they might not normally feel were we mexicans clients.

so many of them are disillusioned with the prospect of actually finding a legitimate, committed, faithful husband or boyfriend that they have all but given up on the idea that he even exists. many girls have told me that the love of their children is what fills the void, and that they are not interested in a committed adult relationship because they have lost all hope that their idealized man even exists.

i also think that many of these girls have a particular goal in mind with respect to their having to work in the clubs. they want to buy a house, and bank some money for the future before they get too old to use their only profitable skill. most of the girls in the clubs are totally illiterate, or at best, borderline illiterate, and they must realize that their prospects for making any money later in life are very slim. so, they do what they do now, because later life promises to be pretty austere otherwise.

many of the girls are originally from much smaller communities in other parts of mexico, and they have come to mty for the express purpose of making as much money as they can. their families and friends do not know what they do, and the girls would be horrified if the truth were ever disclosed. so, it's my opionion that many of them remain unattached because they are living a double life and don't want the details of their vocational choices to permiate back home, or even back into the communities where they live. so, many of them life a cloaked lifestyle. nobody knows what they do, so they live life kind of close to the vest. most of the girls live pretty far away from the clubs, san nicholas, guadelupe, etc...and the life they lead at home is closely guarded so their peers in their "legimate" lives back home or in their far away pueblos don't find out.

i always try to treat the girls like our meetings are legitimately romantic, and caring. i think that some of the girls, because of the reasons i've already illustrated above, crave to be treated well, in the way that they fantisize they want to be treated, something that is not available to them from most of the guys they know that are in their socio-economic class. that, imho, is the key to whatever gfe success i may be having. i know it sounds crazy, but we as gringos can provide them something that they do not routinely get from their male peers in mexican society.

don't underestimate the "gringo factor" in believing whether you can be more to them than you might wisely believe otherwise would happen in a p4p situation. i know it's foolish to normally project in my own mind that i might be offering them what they romantically crave, but i have so many instances where it seems i am striking a nerve with some of them. and, i believe it's directly tied to my being a gringo.

if i were a mexican male, speaking the language fluently, i firmly believe i would not have the edge that i believe i have with some of them. it's like some of them are dying to be with a white boy (a gringo), and being from the us is just icing on the cake, a catalyst to gfe.

i know this may sound racist when i talk in these terms, but i can see the interest level in the mexican girl for the gringo. i have even had some girls tell me they want to be with me because i am a white boy, some have offered to go with me for todo la noche for free.

in cases where money does change hands, there is the prospect that the gringo has money, etc...but, i'm talking about the depth of experience after the business part of the arrangement is settled. i am talking about the girl's true feelings deep inside, irrespective of the money motivator. i firmly believe those feelings are magnified for the gringo in some girls.

i have contemplated this truth for years. over the course of five years of going to mty, i've concluded that the gringo factor is what is making mty a better gfe venue for me than some other venues i have visited. frankly, i can't deny the gringo factor, even when i objectively try to discount it when i'm in other venues. i've sensed the gfe reaction of girls in thailand, indonesia, the pi, etc...and the gringo factor, as it relates to legitimate desire in the girls, and subsequent gfe tht results, is strongest in mty and coliumbia compared to anywhere i've ever been in the world. i can attribute this to only one thing, the gringo factor.

for my part, i have a lot of sincerely felt affection for my favorite girls. i always try to convey that feeling to them so i can express to them that they are more to me than just a sexual release, that they are more emotionally than they might otherwise imagine. in some cases, i think my girlfriends have actually become closer to me than most other clients. i have been asked to the homes of some of them, and i doubt they would normally permit a client to accompany them to their homes if we did not have something a little more than what they routinely experience.

i might be totally delusional with respect to believing that i am more to some of them than just a client, but i prefer to envision them thinking of me as a fun friend, a surrogate legitimate boyfriend, rather than strictly work.

of course, i say all of this with pause, realizing that my own status with them is almost like a dream. it's kind of like going to "fantasy land," enjoying the fantasy while i'm there, trying to fill the role of legitimate romantic boyfriend when i'm with them, and then being conveniently wisked out of their lives until next month. frankly, i think it's the perfect position for me to be in. no responsibilities to them when i am not there, and great gfe's when i am there.

[El Cabron 007]

very interesting usb:

i see where you and i differ; again.

i love to be spoiled, served, catered to .. whatever you wanna call it. this is including being surrounded by pretty young girls.

if it wasn't a, yet another, sin, i would've probably have chosen the life of a gangster and a 'you know hat' lord. ever watch scarface? and who didn't? that is the life i dreamed of leading. but fortunately, only in my dreams. thank god. up to only 3 sins. it used to be 2 until a couple of months ago. carlos is still shocked that i started sampling drinks.

this is where you and i differ. you want to romance and be romanced. i want to be served. i want the girls to give me sex. i tried the romance part and it backfired. i am now terrified at the thought that my "d" girl might be in town during my visit this weekend. she still calls me after having not seen her in over a year. she called me last night.

i do not want one girl from the club to give me gfe. and why should i? i want her to give me 2 hours of pure pleasure. when she's done. i hint for her to leave and i go back to the same club to pick another girl in full view of all the other girls. my "p" girl is so cool about it that she will not come to me unless i ask for her. when i do, she scares away all the other girls. but not until i allow her to set with me.

how did i change? i am kinder and more romantic than you are usb. i shed tears for these girls. but i am all dried out thanks to my "d" girl. when she had her last collapse incident in my hotel room, i asked her to leave, go home, so she would not be found lifeless in my bed. i no longer wanted to be a part of their *&^*& up lives.

i bought my "p" girl cereal and [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) for her kids once. i wanted to take her out on salida but only to treat her to a nice dinner. this is the real me. but i seem to leave this behind when i come to mty now. why?

i look at things differently. on a late night walk back to pda once, we passed by three locals who started making sleazy remarks about my "d" girls firm a$$. the real me would have started a fight. instead, i rub it in and start squeezing her nalgas only for those guys to scream - wooooooooo. me not angry? me feeding into it? "d" was shocked. she knew the real me and did not know where that came from.

is it having a choice? yes. is it fear of being confined to a girlfriend? yes. and why not when there are so many? if the girl wants to give me a gfe? and some try to. that would be an added bonus. if not, i won't miss it. i would not expect it.

serve me and leave.

maybe this explains why i like mty so much. maybe the girls are looking for the usb in me. is it the "kid in a candy store"?

the major positive outcome of all of this ... drama-free. 2nd, extreme pleasure. or is it the other way around?

let me be clear on one thing: i once wondered and ask our friend, mr. “l”, if these girls are ever treated as nicely as we treat them. i am never rude or mean to these girls. i treat them with respect and sometimes over pay them. i lately brought fancy gifts for all of them. like i said before, they are precious, if not to me, they are to someone else. and yes, i see how much they love their children and that goes a long way.

wasted


wastedg,

before i came to mty last time, i picked up the genuine pocket rocket at one of the local stores here in the us, and i also purchased a cheaper off-brand version, one of the white colored ones, just thinking that perhaps it would be a good backup.

believe it or not, i let one of the girls see it at the harem, my "n" girl, and she broke it within seconds, breaking off the little tab that sticks out to make a connection. it is always that little metal tab that breaks. so, another one is history. i will no longer purchase the cheap version for terrorizing in the clubs. it simply will not hold up. now, if you want to use it strictly in the privacy of your hotel room, then i think it may have some merit.

anyway, when i was purchasing the pocket rockets, i also purchased two small vibrators, one that has a slightly curved head that functions as a clit stimulator, and one that is simply a rounded head, relatively similar in shape to the pocket rocket, only smaller.

both of these vibrators are about the same size as your little finger, and they are constructed differently than the pocket rocket type, so there is not a tab to break off. also, they are more easily hidden in your pocket, or shoe, or wherever, for smuggling into some of the clubs.

in the past, i've had trouble getting the pocket rocket past the guards in some of the clubs because of its size. of course, there is not a problem in the places that know us, but some of these bouncers take their jobs just a little too seriously. i mean, it's not really a weapon...or is it? :-)

both of these smaller types run off of watch batteries, three at a time. the sales clerk was kind enough to inform me that the watch battery powered versions really eat batteries quickly, which can be kind of expensive, three watch batteries at a time. but, when i was in mty with them, i noticed that they held up very well in the clubs, and in the room, and that they seemed to last relatively long without having to change batteries. so, i will probably only use the genuine pocket rocket in the room from now on, and start to use the smaller versions for terrorizing in the clubs.

with respect to philosophizing about the girls...

any man that would knowingly permit his wife or girlfriend to work in that environment, allowing numerous men to screw them, giving blow jobs, being groped all night, isn't much of a man, and the girls know it. but, like everything else, they remain married or attached for the sake of preserving their families. i'm sure the girls see how much more difficult life could be if they were completely alone, especially as a female in mexico. the evidence of that is starkly conveyed to them in all their peers around them that are single mothers having to go it alone.

plus, so many of the single girls have told me that there just aren't any decent prospects to select from. they see their pool of eligible men, men of acceptable character, as almost non-existent. so, many seem to have lost hope that they will ever really find someone who is worthy of any kind of legitimate effort. so, they strip in the clubs, make good money, raise the kids they mistakenly had at a younger age, and have very little optomistic hope that they will ever have a legitimatized relationship.

a lot of the void the girls are experiencing in finding acceptable prospects has to do with the class structure in mexico, skin color, affluence, etc...this influence that mexican society has on the girls directly relates to gfe for us as gringos, and it directly makes the girls emotionally open to actually desiring to be with us, possibly feeling something for us that they might not normally feel were we mexicans clients.

so many of them are disillusioned with the prospect of actually finding a legitimate, committed, faithful husband or boyfriend that they have all but given up on the idea that he even exists. many girls have told me that the love of their children is what fills the void, and that they are not interested in a committed adult relationship because they have lost all hope that their idealized man even exists.

i also think that many of these girls have a particular goal in mind with respect to their having to work in the clubs. they want to buy a house, and bank some money for the future before they get too old to use their only profitable skill. most of the girls in the clubs are totally illiterate, or at best, borderline illiterate, and they must realize that their prospects for making any money later in life are very slim. so, they do what they do now, because later life promises to be pretty austere otherwise.

many of the girls are originally from much smaller communities in other parts of mexico, and they have come to mty for the express purpose of making as much money as they can. their families and friends do not know what they do, and the girls would be horrified if the truth were ever disclosed. so, it's my opionion that many of them remain unattached because they are living a double life and don't want the details of their vocational choices to permiate back home, or even back into the communities where they live. so, many of them life a cloaked lifestyle. nobody knows what they do, so they live life kind of close to the vest. most of the girls live pretty far away from the clubs, san nicholas, guadelupe, etc...and the life they lead at home is closely guarded so their peers in their "legimate" lives back home or in their far away pueblos don't find out.

i always try to treat the girls like our meetings are legitimately romantic, and caring. i think that some of the girls, because of the reasons i've already illustrated above, crave to be treated well, in the way that they fantisize they want to be treated, something that is not available to them from most of the guys they know that are in their socio-economic class. that, imho, is the key to whatever gfe success i may be having. i know it sounds crazy, but we as gringos can provide them something that they do not routinely get from their male peers in mexican society.

don't underestimate the "gringo factor" in believing whether you can be more to them than you might wisely believe otherwise would happen in a p4p situation. i know it's foolish to normally project in my own mind that i might be offering them what they romantically crave, but i have so many instances where it seems i am striking a nerve with some of them. and, i believe it's directly tied to my being a gringo.

if i were a mexican male, speaking the language fluently, i firmly believe i would not have the edge that i believe i have with some of them. it's like some of them are dying to be with a white boy (a gringo), and being from the us is just icing on the cake, a catalyst to gfe.

i know this may sound racist when i talk in these terms, but i can see the interest level in the mexican girl for the gringo. i have even had some girls tell me they want to be with me because i am a white boy, some have offered to go with me for todo la noche for free.

in cases where money does change hands, there is the prospect that the gringo has money, etc...but, i'm talking about the depth of experience after the business part of the arrangement is settled. i am talking about the girl's true feelings deep inside, irrespective of the money motivator. i firmly believe those feelings are magnified for the gringo in some girls.

i have contemplated this truth for years. over the course of five years of going to mty, i've concluded that the gringo factor is what is making mty a better gfe venue for me than some other venues i have visited. frankly, i can't deny the gringo factor, even when i objectively try to discount it when i'm in other venues. i've sensed the gfe reaction of girls in thailand, indonesia, the pi, etc...and the gringo factor, as it relates to legitimate desire in the girls, and subsequent gfe tht results, is strongest in mty and coliumbia compared to anywhere i've ever been in the world. i can attribute this to only one thing, the gringo factor.

for my part, i have a lot of sincerely felt affection for my favorite girls. i always try to convey that feeling to them so i can express to them that they are more to me than just a sexual release, that they are more emotionally than they might otherwise imagine. in some cases, i think my girlfriends have actually become closer to me than most other clients. i have been asked to the homes of some of them, and i doubt they would normally permit a client to accompany them to their homes if we did not have something a little more than what they routinely experience.

i might be totally delusional with respect to believing that i am more to some of them than just a client, but i prefer to envision them thinking of me as a fun friend, a surrogate legitimate boyfriend, rather than strictly work.

of course, i say all of this with pause, realizing that my own status with them is almost like a dream. it's kind of like going to "fantasy land," enjoying the fantasy while i'm there, trying to fill the role of legitimate romantic boyfriend when i'm with them, and then being conveniently wisked out of their lives until next month. frankly, i think it's the perfect position for me to be in. no responsibilities to them when i am not there, and great gfe's when i am there.

[Member #3453]

i give and take the gfe/bfe when in mty, but i don't become too involved in their individual lives. that is, i love them and leave them, just as you do. i agree that getting too involved in their lives outside my hotel room is not something i typically do, or even want to do.

we are the same in the sense that i love them to spoil me. but, i describe "spoiling" to mean gfe, genuinely "displayed" affection, etc...but, only in the moment.

i love it when the girls walk with me and clutch me close to them, hanging onto my arm, or holding my hand unsolicited, all that romantic shit. i like talking to them, knowing them as people, but i am not really interested in taking it beyond that point. i have been invited to their homes, but have always declined, except in one instance when she had to change her clothes on the way to the hotel.

i like their outward displays of affection because it helps me to gage the potential of their sincere affection in the privacy of the hotel room. i realize that sometimes it's an act, but that is what i pay them for. and, in those cases where their demonstrative affections are not an act, that makes it all the better.

to further clarify, what i seek is not necessarily the actual "relationship," but the romantic "illusion" of the relationship, with them genuinely desiring sex as part of the ultimate grand finale. some of the girls can consistently pull it off, and some don't stack up. the ones that can pull it off are either very good actresses, or they are legitimately displaying their affection. either way, it doesn't matter to me as long as the illusion is maintained.

frankly, if i find a girl that consistently delivers the gfe, i have no problem sticking with her exclusively. well...maybe not totally exclusively, but even if i waiver in my decision to patronize only one, or even if i choose to patronize a very small select group of just a few girls, versus bar fining anything that walks, you can rest assured i will be evaluating all the other candidates based on the high standards that my favoritas are capable of delivering with respect to gfe.

the problem is, there are not that many girls that really know how to deliver a great gfe, nor do they aspire to such greatness. they don't understand what i am looking for, and they are under the misconception that they can simply be a piece of meat, with no depth of intellect, personality, or charm, and that i will be satisfied with them based solely on their young, flawless bodies.

they are sadly mistaken. i have bar fined some of the most beautiful girls in mty, only to be disappointed in the quality of their delivery. on the other hand, i have bar fined the "girl next door" types, and been amazed at the depth of the experiences i've had with them. that's why when i find one, or a select few that i like, i stick to them with such loyalty.

in the process of interviewing various candidates for the postition of favorita, i do think that some of their displays of affection are legitimate. that is, i believe that some of them are legitimately showing me their genuine affection in the moment, and with some, i even sense a degree of melancholy over what they know will never be.

but, we equally realize the ultimate obsurdity of anything beyond the lobby of the hotel, notwithstanding the occassional visit to a restaurant, or the mall, or a movie. due to the circumstances of our meeting, we are not avaialable to one another outside the confines of our p4p sorted little affair. they realize that our "relationship" will never extend beyond the four walls of the hotel room. we realize that that we are not available to each other for anything beyond the short term, and that we are not really "there" for one another. we realize we are living a beautiful fantasy, and that were it to become a part of real everday life, it would screw it completely up. but, there is melancholoy over one not being able to live the fantasy long term, not to have access to at when our souls need it most, and that is where the regret runs deep, and on both sides, imho. i believe that the regret sometimes runs deep in their psyche as well as mine, but it's more due to a melancholy over fantasy lost, than a loss based on actual reality.

anyway, bottom line, if i'm going to spend my money on them consistently, they must be able to maintain the "illusion" through great acting ability, if not as a result of genuinely displayed affection. obviously, it is much easier for a girl to deliver a gfe on a consistent basis if she is actually into spending time with me. so, those girls that can deliver legitimately, or make me believe it, are the gems, and worthy on my loyalty.



very interesting usb:

i see where you and i differ; again.

i love to be spoiled, served, catered to .. whatever you wanna call it. this is including being surrounded by pretty young girls.

if it wasn't a, yet another, sin, i would've probably have chosen the life of a gangster and a 'you know hat' lord. ever watch scarface? and who didn't? that is the life i dreamed of leading. but fortunately, only in my dreams. thank god. up to only 3 sins. it used to be 2 until a couple of months ago. carlos is still shocked that i started sampling drinks.

this is where you and i differ. you want to romance and be romanced. i want to be served. i want the girls to give me sex. i tried the romance part and it backfired. i am now terrified at the thought that my "d" girl might be in town during my visit this weekend. she still calls me after having not seen her in over a year. she called me last night.

i do not want one girl from the club to give me gfe. and why should i? i want her to give me 2 hours of pure pleasure. when she's done. i hint for her to leave and i go back to the same club to pick another girl in full view of all the other girls. my "p" girl is so cool about it that she will not come to me unless i ask for her. when i do, she scares away all the other girls. but not until i allow her to set with me.

how did i change? i am kinder and more romantic than you are usb. i shed tears for these girls. but i am all dried out thanks to my "d" girl. when she had her last collapse incident in my hotel room, i asked her to leave, go home, so she would not be found lifeless in my bed. i no longer wanted to be a part of their *&^*& up lives.

i bought my "p" girl cereal and [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) for her kids once. i wanted to take her out on salida but only to treat her to a nice dinner. this is the real me. but i seem to leave this behind when i come to mty now. why?

i look at things differently. on a late night walk back to pda once, we passed by three locals who started making sleazy remarks about my "d" girls firm a$$. the real me would have started a fight. instead, i rub it in and start squeezing her nalgas only for those guys to scream - wooooooooo. me not angry? me feeding into it? "d" was shocked. she knew the real me and did not know where that came from.

is it having a choice? yes. is it fear of being confined to a girlfriend? yes. and why not when there are so many? if the girl wants to give me a gfe? and some try to. that would be an added bonus. if not, i won't miss it. i would not expect it.

serve me and leave.

maybe this explains why i like mty so much. maybe the girls are looking for the usb in me. is it the "kid in a candy store"?

the major positive outcome of all of this ... drama-free. 2nd, extreme pleasure. or is it the other way around?

let me be clear on one thing: i once wondered and ask our friend, mr. “l”, if these girls are ever treated as nicely as we treat them. i am never rude or mean to these girls. i treat them with respect and sometimes over pay them. i lately brought fancy gifts for all of them. like i said before, they are precious, if not to me, they are to someone else. and yes, i see how much they love their children and that goes a long way.

wasted

[El Cabron 007]

Thank you USB. I think you and I summed up our expectations in the last 2 posts. I hope you understood mine they way I understood yours. Any other way would probably sound odd to you and me even though I have learned through my many years of travel and all the countries I have visited that "Different is not wrong - It is just Different"

What's even nicer is how you described the "illusion" vs. reality. The short-term love affair vs. what we have built here at home. And if I may add, which I think you mentioned as well, the longing to return to Monterrey.

This should be my report # 68. I have been waiting for this to submit a special report next. But I will need help from Carlos. I'll be PMing him soon.

Wasted



I give and take the GFE/BFE when in MTY, but I don't become too involved in their individual lives. That is, I love them and leave them, just as you do. I agree that getting too involved in their lives outside my hotel room is not something I typically do, or even want to do.

We are the same in the sense that I love them to spoil me. But, I describe "spoiling" to mean GFE, genuinely "displayed" affection, etc...but, only in the moment.

I love it when the girls walk with me and clutch me close to them, hanging onto my arm, or holding my hand unsolicited, all that romantic shit. I like talking to them, knowing them as people, but I am not really interested in taking it beyond that point. I have been invited to their homes, but have always declined, except in one instance when she had to change her clothes on the way to the hotel.

I like their outward displays of affection because it helps me to gage the potential of their sincere affection in the privacy of the hotel room. I realize that sometimes it's an act, but that is what I pay them for. And, in those cases where their demonstrative affections are not an act, that makes it all the better.

To further clarify, what I seek is not necessarily the actual "relationship," but the romantic "illusion" of the relationship, with them genuinely desiring sex as part of the ultimate grand finale. Some of the girls can consistently pull it off, and some don't stack up. The ones that can pull it off are either very good actresses, or they are legitimately displaying their affection. Either way, it doesn't matter to me as long as the illusion is maintained.

Frankly, if I find a girl that consistently delivers the GFE, I have no problem sticking with her exclusively. Well...maybe not totally exclusively, but even if I waiver in my decision to patronize only one, or even if I choose to patronize a very small select group of just a few girls, versus bar fining anything that walks, you can rest assured I will be evaluating all the other candidates based on the high standards that my favoritas are capable of delivering with respect to GFE.

The problem is, there are not that many girls that really know how to deliver a great GFE, nor do they aspire to such greatness. They don't understand what I am looking for, and they are under the misconception that they can simply be a piece of meat, with no depth of intellect, personality, or charm, and that I will be satisfied with them based solely on their young, flawless bodies.

They are sadly mistaken. I have bar fined some of the most beautiful girls in MTY, only to be disappointed in the quality of their delivery. On the other hand, I have bar fined the "girl next door" types, and been amazed at the depth of the experiences I've had with them. That's why when I find one, or a select few that I like, I stick to them with such loyalty.

In the process of interviewing various candidates for the postition of favorita, I do think that some of their displays of affection are legitimate. That is, I believe that some of them are legitimately showing me their genuine affection in the moment, and with some, I even sense a degree of melancholy over what they know will never be.

But, we equally realize the ultimate obsurdity of anything beyond the lobby of the hotel, notwithstanding the occassional visit to a restaurant, or the mall, or a movie. Due to the circumstances of our meeting, we are not avaialable to one another outside the confines of our P4P sorted little affair. They realize that our "relationship" will never extend beyond the four walls of the hotel room. We realize that that we are not available to each other for anything beyond the short term, and that we are not really "there" for one another. We realize we are living a beautiful fantasy, and that were it to become a part of real everday life, it would screw it completely up. But, there is melancholoy over one not being able to live the fantasy long term, not to have access to at when our souls need it most, and that is where the regret runs deep, and on both sides, IMHO. I believe that the regret sometimes runs deep in their psyche as well as mine, but it's more due to a melancholy over fantasy lost, than a loss based on actual reality.

Anyway, bottom line, if I'm going to spend my money on them consistently, they must be able to maintain the "illusion" through great acting ability, if not as a result of genuinely displayed affection. Obviously, it is much easier for a girl to deliver a GFE on a consistent basis if she is actually into spending time with me. So, those girls that can deliver legitimately, or make me believe it, are the gems, and worthy on my loyalty.

[MonterreyDude]

What the HELL is this????
The Dating Game?????
Married Man #1: How do you like your girls???
Marreid Man #2: How many novias can you entertain in your room at the same time????

When you come back to Monterrey... am not talking to you guys for the rest of the year!!!



Thank you USB. I think you and I summed up our expectations in the last 2 posts. I hope you understood mine they way I understood yours. Any other way would probably sound odd to you and me even though I have learned through my many years of travel and all the countries I have visited that "Different is not wrong - It is just Different"

What's even nicer is how you described the "illusion" vs. reality. The short-term love affair vs. what we have built here at home. And if I may add, which I think you mentioned as well, the longing to return to Monterrey.

This should be my report # 68. I have been waiting for this to submit a special report next. But I will need help from Carlos. I'll be PMing him soon.

Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

Most memorable phrases while visiting Monterrey:

Clay:
1- After taking his 1st blue pill bite: "What the hell did you give me?"
2- Reason: when July from El C place shows up out of no where and rides him in his seat: "Wow - You are my big d**k"
3- A chica asking Clay is he likes the girl on stage while pointing to her: “I love you?”

Mr. "L":
1- Carlos pushes his hotel room door open and hides. "L" is naked for all the hotel to see: “Oh Sh**t”
2- After spending hours with the “L” girl, we leave and he is introduced to another girl: "She looks better in the light"
3- Carlos walks up to “L” from behind and hugs him: "Is that you Roxana?"
4- Me asking “L” what he wants to do next: "I'm indifferent"

Wasted:
1- For 6 months: "Devany"
2- When with any of the girls: "What was your name?"
3- Me and “L” Making an appointment but need to give the previous night girls time to leave: "I want you in my room at 11:00, no make that 12:00. If you are 1 minute late, don’t bother showing up."
4- Every trip: "This will be my last trip to Monterrey"

Carlos:
1- Wait, don't let her leave yet, I wanna see what she looks like in the light.
2- Slow me down "L".
3- I'll be there AT ONE O'CLOCK." (then shows up at 3)

Wasted

[Member #3453]

You forgot the USB scene from the movie "Men in Black"...

Aye carumba..mucho diner&%*&^sdoijv como estas, bien, gracias, dodsiohadohvdsivndsvdvv, hhahahahahahahah, udioaudioufiu muy bien, si, hahahahahahahahahaha, ariva, ariva, ariva, onda ley!!!!!!!!!!!



Most memorable phrases while visiting Monterrey:

Clay:
1- After taking his 1st blue pill bite: "What the hell did you give me?"
2- Reason: when July from El C place shows up out of no where and rides him in his seat: "Wow - You are my big d**k"
3- A chica asking Clay is he likes the girl on stage while pointing to her: “I love you?”

Mr. "L":
1- Carlos pushes his hotel room door open and hides. "L" is naked for all the hotel to see: “Oh Sh**t”
2- After spending hours with the “L” girl, we leave and he is introduced to another girl: "She looks better in the light"
3- Carlos walks up to “L” from behind and hugs him: "Is that you Roxana?"
4- Me asking “L” what he wants to do next: "I'm indifferent"

Wasted:
1- For 6 months: "Devany"
2- When with any of the girls: "What was your name?"
3- Me and “L” Making an appointment but need to give the previous night girls time to leave: "I want you in my room at 11:00, no make that 12:00. If you are 1 minute late, don’t bother showing up."
4- Every trip: "This will be my last trip to Monterrey"

Carlos:
1- Wait, don't let her leave yet, I wanna see what she looks like in the light.
2- Slow me down "L".
3- I'll be there AT ONE O'CLOCK." (then shows up at 3)

Wasted

[MonterreyDude]

Better than Misses, none that I know of.
Next in line is Romanos and Marsella.
After that there is a big step down....




UnospongeBob

With all the respect, I think you put too much brain to the situation.

At the end of the day you are one of their best clients that's all. Talking in my experience, I may be wrong. I'd never have a favorita or a novia. I get tired, and look for fresh meat.

Carlos, sorry I ask again, do you know any other MP like misses? or maybe better?

Thanks

[El Cabron 007]

That's it. I knew I had one for USB:

When I forced USB to join us at the Casino, 2 girls (tiny little sisters) approached us and I forced them both on USB. As they were setting on his lab talking and romancing him, he says them 2 girls reminded him of the 2 aliens in the movie MIB with the coffee and Marlboro cigarettes seens.

"Aye carumba..mucho diner&%*&^sdoijv como estas, bien, gracias, dodsiohadohvdsivndsvdvv, hhahahahahahahah, udioaudioufiu muy bien, si, hahahahahahahahahaha, ariva, ariva, ariva, onda ley!!!!!!!!!!!"

He ends up taking one of them back to his hotel. Lucky son of a ****

Wasted.

[Member #3453]

I hope you aren't suggesting that the two girls that sat with me looked like aliens, now are you? They just sounded like those same aliens,verdad?

...but, back at my hotel, the one girl did make some pretty strange moaning sounds that were "out of this world," hahahaha!!!


That's it. I knew I had one for USB:

When I forced USB to join us at the Casino, 2 girls (tiny little sisters) approached us and I forced them both on USB. As they were setting on his lab talking and romancing him, he says them 2 girls reminded him of the 2 aliens in the movie MIB with the coffee and Marlboro cigarettes seens.

"Aye carumba..mucho diner&%*&^sdoijv como estas, bien, gracias, dodsiohadohvdsivndsvdvv, hhahahahahahahah, udioaudioufiu muy bien, si, hahahahahahahahahaha, ariva, ariva, ariva, onda ley!!!!!!!!!!!"

He ends up taking one of them back to his hotel. Lucky son of a ****

Wasted.

[Member #3453]

Jimbo,

I think that in most cases you are correct, I am one of their better clients, and as I mentioned, I don't really think there is anything permanent about it. As I mentioned, it usually stops at the hotel lobby.

But, I do believe that "in the moment" there is sometimes an intensity that has a basis in reality, regardless of whether there is actually any reality existing. It really just depends on the girl. That basis in reality, although limited to the hotel room, is also the emotional/sexual component that makes the whole experience GFE.

With respect to your comment about getting tired of them, finding fresh meat, etc...I have to agree with you there. Frankly, with all my girlfriends there is a beginning and a definite end to the intensity. I always know that my favoritas will have a relatively short shelf life with me, usually six months to a year lately.

Even if I consider one to be a favorita, something always changes the dynamic within a relatively short period of time. She moves away from the area, she quites working the clubs, she loses her cell phone, she finds a real boyfriend, she gets tired of "us," I get tired of "us," she gets hooked on drugs, she becomes a drunk, she gets angry with me, I get angry with her, she gets fat, and on, and on, and on.

So, I am always interviewing for replacements. Because, I know that the circumstances will change eventually, and that there will always be something come along to screw it up. So, while I have favoritas, their rotation changes, and I am always seemingly finding new ones to replace the old ones that drop out of rotation.

Life is good...




UnospongeBob

With all the respect, I think you put too much brain to the situation.

At the end of the day you are one of their best clients that's all. Talking in my experience, I may be wrong. I'd never have a favorita or a novia. I get tired, and look for fresh meat.

Carlos, sorry I ask again, do you know any other MP like misses? or maybe better?

Thanks

[El Cabron 007]

Having a long-term affair with a stripper, she once got up and left me. In the club. I was dumped by my stripper in the middle of a club full of ... strippers.

Now what do I do? I am all alone. No wait. Look at the stage. There are 20 other girls who are better looking and are more eager to please me. What do I do?

Wait, I have an idea. I'm free? I can choose another one? Hot damm little mamma. I'll take this one, and this one, and this one. No wait. I'll take .. no... how about that one over there?

It's like this .. A movie writer (can we say writer?) spends 2 years writing the movie. A movie goer spends 2 hours watching it. Who do you think enjoyed it more?

What the hell is WastedG on? What is he talking about?

I'll move on in a heartbeat. Jump in my hot wheeler and rotate those tires. Engine not too good? Dump it. Gimme the next one.

Still, what the hell is WastedG talking about?

Oh, but I really miss my stripper. Will she ever strip for me again?

Wasted

[Member #3453]

I agree with the wisdom of your optimism. But, I also suspect you will miss your favorite stripper. You see, there may be twenty more where she came from, but my favoritas have been tested for their performance. They are all not created equal. Some might look HOT, and be totally disappointing on salida.

After five years of listening to Carlos preach about the merits of slightly lowering my standards to find the diamonds in the rough, I am beginning to believe he is right :-0

But, to clarify, I don't advocate necessarily lowering my total standards much per se. But, I do believe now that lowering my standards with respect to overall HOT beauty, and relatively young age, offer a potential upside to GFE that one might be inclined to otherwise discount.

I prefer now to evaluate them with respect to charm and enthusiasm, then beauty, then age. Obviously beauty is still a component to be seriously considered, but there are a lot of pretty girls that aren't necessarily HOT on the surface. But it goes without saying that if they are strippers, and they make their livings based on their appearance, but they aren't necessarily the hottest girl in the club, but instead they have tremendous enthusiasm, and are genuinely hot for me, plus they "aren't bad," then there is no substitute, IMHO.

Performance IS relative, and many of those other girls on the stage aren't worth a shit on salida. But, then again, it is fun trying to find one, or more, that will replace the "stupid" girl (angry girl) that might foolishly leave us...

And, I just have to say it (Angry Girl comes to mind as a perfect example). What is the upside for them when they choose to leave us high and dry. Leave us for what, why, WTF is the upside? Why would a girl that regularly makes money off of us ever consider putting a halt to it, especially when they are expressly there for that purpose?

I have one answer for you. Some of them are really damned stupid. They come to that place, degrade themselves night after night in a dirty, dingy, sometimes cold, filthy, privado environment, all for a mere pittance in comparison to what we pay them for their time on salida.

No, if they leave us, I'm convinced they are simply stupid, especially when it comes to dumping the likes of us. We treat them better than they have probably every been treated in their entire lives by any boyfriend they probably ever knew. Stupidy is their handicap, and their emotional problems are a symptom of their instability, and their instability a catalyst in their stupidily.

You said it best WastedG, any stripper that leaves the relative caring and concern we give them in the moment (and I do mean, "in the moment," without any emphasis on any long term kind of commitment), not to mention the security of our financial patronage, is a looser.


Having a long-term affair with a stripper, she once got up and left me. In the club. I was dumped by my stripper in the middle of a club full of ... strippers.

Now what do I do? I am all alone. No wait. Look at the stage. There are 20 other girls who are better looking and are more eager to please me. What do I do?

Wait, I have an idea. I'm free? I can choose another one? Hot damm little mamma. I'll take this one, and this one, and this one. No wait. I'll take .. no... how about that one over there?

It's like this .. A movie writer (can we say writer?) spends 2 years writing the movie. A movie goer spends 2 hours watching it. Who do you think enjoyed it more?

What the hell is WastedG on? What is he talking about?

I'll move on in a heartbeat. Jump in my hot wheeler and rotate those tires. Engine not too good? Dump it. Gimme the next one.

Still, what the hell is WastedG talking about?

Oh, but I really miss my stripper. Will she ever strip for me again?

Wasted

[MonterreyDude]

No Uno, you didn't get to meet WastedG's girl.
She is a combination of your first girl and Angry girl and mixed together with Nitroglycerin.
She's unpredictable, volitile, violent, sentimental blackmailer, bipolar, drug user to the extreme and extremely selfdestructive, which is why WastedG is questioning about her.
To me, she used to be good, now she is trash.
She is not good news, she is chaos personified.



I agree with the wisdom of your optimism. But, I also suspect you will miss your favorite stripper. You see, there may be twenty more where she came from, but my favoritas have been tested for their performance. They are all not created equal. Some might look HOT, and be totally disappointing on salida.

After five years of listening to Carlos preach about the merits of slightly lowering my standards to find the diamonds in the rough, I am beginning to believe he is right :-0

But, to clarify, I don't advocate necessarily lowering my total standards much per se. But, I do believe now that lowering my standards with respect to overall HOT beauty, and relatively young age, offer a potential upside to GFE that one might be inclined to otherwise discount.

I prefer now to evaluate them with respect to charm and enthusiasm, then beauty, then age. Obviously beauty is still a component to be seriously considered, but there are a lot of pretty girls that aren't necessarily HOT on the surface. But it goes without saying that if they are strippers, and they make their livings based on their appearance, but they aren't necessarily the hottest girl in the club, but instead they have tremendous enthusiasm, and are genuinely hot for me, plus they "aren't bad," then there is no substitute, IMHO.

Performance IS relative, and many of those other girls on the stage aren't worth a shit on salida. But, then again, it is fun trying to find one, or more, that will replace the "stupid" girl (angry girl) that might foolishly leave us...

And, I just have to say it (Angry Girl comes to mind as a perfect example). What is the upside for them when they choose to leave us high and dry. Leave us for what, why, WTF is the upside? Why would a girl that regularly makes money off of us ever consider putting a halt to it, especially when they are expressly there for that purpose?

I have one answer for you. Some of them are really damned stupid. They come to that place, degrade themselves night after night in a dirty, dingy, sometimes cold, filthy, privado environment, all for a mere pittance in comparison to what we pay them for their time on salida.

No, if they leave us, I'm convinced they are simply stupid, especially when it comes to dumping the likes of us. We treat them better than they have probably every been treated in their entire lives by any boyfriend they probably ever knew. Stupidy is their handicap, and their emotional problems are a symptom of their instability, and their instability a catalyst in their stupidily.

You said it best WastedG, any stripper that leaves the relative caring and concern we give them in the moment (and I do mean, "in the moment," without any emphasis on any long term kind of commitment), not to mention the security of our financial patronage, is a looser.

[El Cabron 007]

I am terrified. I feel sorry for any girl who might be caught with me if I ever run into her. HELP!

It would an interesting experience that I prefer not to experience at all.

Although, she does have the most perfect nalgas in MTY. hmmmmm ..

No, I do not want to see her. But if I did, I would not mind doing her.... just kidding... about seeing her, but I'll do her. no, yes, maybe .. NO.

Wasted


No Uno, you didn't get to meet WastedG's girl.
She is a combination of your first girl and Angry girl and mixed together with Nitroglycerin.
She's unpredictable, volitile, violent, sentimental blackmailer, bipolar, drug user to the extreme and extremely selfdestructive, which is why WastedG is questioning about her.
To me, she used to be good, now she is trash.
She is not good news, she is chaos personified.

[Doubt98]

How crowded are the Motels between Christmas and New years? Will I be sleeping at the bus station? A scared and lonely gringo? What is the selection like in the clubs during that time? Do the women work or take off?

Also......A couple of months ago I met a girl in Tango that had a tatoo of the Grim Reaper on her right shoulder. I think her name was Lisa? Last time I was there the waiter remembered me but brought over a girl that looked like her but no tattoo. Wondering if she is still around or at another club?

[MonterreyDude]

About the motels, it's difficult to predict, but if there is movement it will be visitors for locals.
Will it block the hotels, we have never been asked that question here.
Slection at the clubs: low. Even now, girls are starting to stop working cause their family is here, or the other way around, they skip Monterrey for their home town and then, some just can't work cause they have their kids at home (no school).




How crowded are the Motels between Christmas and New years? Will I be sleeping at the bus station? A scared and lonely gringo? What is the selection like in the clubs during that time? Do the women work or take off?

Also......A couple of months ago I met a girl in Tango that had a tatoo of the Grim Reaper on her right shoulder. I think her name was Lisa? Last time I was there the waiter remembered me but brought over a girl that looked like her but no tattoo. Wondering if she is still around or at another club?

[Member #3453]

Doubt98,

It's really not a "choice" time to visit MTY, especially between about December 22-23 and a couple days after new years. But, I realize that you probably have the time with respect to your own employment etc...I suppose that being the case, a mediocre-bad day in MTY is probably a little better than a normal day in the States, verdad?

Can't help you with the girl in Tango. I am not really familiar with that club. Are your referring to Tangalay, across from El Infinito? With respect to "regulars" being available in MTY, depending on the girl, many times they are there on one visit and nowhere to be found on future ones. There are so many times that I have entered the clubs, month after month, to find new girls that I have never seen before, and, unfortunately, upon returning to find them on subsequent visits, will never see again.

I have never been in MTY over the Christmas holidays. But, if I were to guess, I would think that that the hotels would be relatively "open" during that period. My speculation would be that places like Hotel Plaza Del Arco, Avenue Madero and Pino Suarez, would not have the normal influx of bus tour traffic now that is otherwise common there normally.

If you really want to be sure, and you choose to stay at PDA, you can call and talk to Orlando, the manager. He speaks English, and he could confirm a reservation for you. I think Orlando gets there after about 9am, and is available on weekdays. The number for PDA is 011528281252646, or according to their card, they even have an 800 number you can call from the US, 1-866-830-8503. Good luck...



How crowded are the Motels between Christmas and New years? Will I be sleeping at the bus station? A scared and lonely gringo? What is the selection like in the clubs during that time? Do the women work or take off?

Also......A couple of months ago I met a girl in Tango that had a tatoo of the Grim Reaper on her right shoulder. I think her name was Lisa? Last time I was there the waiter remembered me but brought over a girl that looked like her but no tattoo. Wondering if she is still around or at another club?

[El Cabron 007]

USB: Remember the hot young girl from the “P” place? The one you thought would give a man a heart attack if he were to marry her and find out he got a wife as hot as this girl? Well, she stayed with me all night last night until 10 am this morning. 12 hours. "J" girl is arriving soon. I get 2 hours break.

This is not to mention the fact that I ran into hot girl at the “O” place while I was with my “J” girl. You should’ve seen the cat fight I had to endure. But it was all part of the fun for me. Did not expect "J" girl to be a cling-on and ‘openly’ fight for me.

My technique paid off thou. It was mainly the “J” girl making it clear to the hot girl that she is not welcome. I made it clear that she is a friend and can stay with me as long as I want her to. On the other hand, the poor thing just sat there like a good little girl taking all this abuse from 3 girls. We were like little kids. When “J” walks away, we would be all huggy and kissy. When she returns, we set like well-behaved children.

Anyways, I finally had her. Carlos and Mr. “L” commented that I might lose my girl of her. I said I would not mind risking all the girls in MTY for this one.

She asked about you. The guy with the cookies.

Wasted

[Member #3453]

Congratulations on conquering that one. She is HOTTTTTTTTTT!!!! But, of course, you probably had to take NITROGLYCERIN tablets for your heart in addition to all that Viagra you HAVE TO TAKE :-), especially if she stayed with you for 12 hours (hahahah, just joking mi amigo).

So, how does it feel to have a HOTTTTTTT girl, a youngster really, spend 12 hours with you? Actually, I know the feeling quite well, and it's blissful. So you have my sincere congratulations. You have graduated to the head of the class.

But, philosophically, and based on my own experiences, I must comment on what I believe her present psychological state of mind might be. Hopefully, my comments will make some sense. I am speaking from considerable experience, with significant periods of mental anguish in trying to figure them out. I hope that what I say will assist you in your approach as the dynamic changes. And, it will surely begin to change. Watch for it, anticipate it, and you will be better prepared to contend with it.

Remember, in her mind, you now owe her something BIG TIME. She will be expecting special consideration. You will have to deliver if you want to hold onto her for future liasons. Frankly, I warn you to be expecting the scenario to last a relative short period of time, and enjoy it for as long as you can.

I've learned that these girls are really screwed up mentally, and they have a hard time holding it together. The nature of their business causes many of them to fluctuate mentally with respect to their perspectives on life, love, happiness, money, etc... It's kind of "psychological compensation adjustment."

The longer they are in the business, the more their sweetness diminishes, and the more unstable their thought processes seem to be over time, making it very difficult for you to assess their next move, and your next move. It will possibly become more difficult for you to interpret her reactions, and to properly implement your future approach to her in order to maintain your desired outcome. Not because you are any less adept at having the skill, but because her thought processes with respect to "you" will be in the ditzy "female zone."

That's the core of the problem. Once you get them in your bed for todo la noche, especially for as long a time as 12 hours, especially if they are staying for free, or even if they take a huge discount off their normal fee to be with you, you take on a different position in their minds. Once they start to treat you like a real boyfriend, then eventually the scenario deteriorates in much the same manner as what occurred between me and angry girl.

I'm not suggesting there is any "real" relationship between you in the conventional sense, boyfriend/girlfriend. But, make no mistake, a relationship now exists, a relationship with significantly more expectation on her part. A relationship that has it's own set of rules, rules that actually are quite similiar with respect to normal business relationships where honesty, fidelity, loyalty, and patronage are all part of the mix. Whether you know it or not, you are in a very complicated business relationship with her now, one that also has all the pitfalls of a romantic relationship.

IMHO, "HOT Girl" will expect you to give her preferential treatment, whereas before you did not owe her anything. With that one, I expect that she does not usually just give it up to just anyone, not even for money. The way I imagine she looks at it, she gave it up to you, even if you paid her a huge fee. Remember, so many of these girls now look at what they do as something other than "Pay-4-Play." This generation of girls view themselves more like angelic compassionate nurses, and less as prostitutes.

Carlos and I have noticed the change in how the girls of this present generation view themselves. Perhaps the change makes handling them much more complicated than in the past. Ask Carlos about it...he will clarify my comments in detail.


USB: Remember the hot young girl from the “P” place? The one you thought would give a man a heart attack if he were to marry her and find out he got a wife as hot as this girl? Well, she stayed with me all night last night until 10 am this morning. 12 hours. "J" girl is arriving soon. I get 2 hours break.

This is not to mention the fact that I ran into hot girl at the “O” place while I was with my “J” girl. You should’ve seen the cat fight I had to endure. But it was all part of the fun for me. Did not expect "J" girl to be a cling-on and ‘openly’ fight for me.

My technique paid off thou. It was mainly the “J” girl making it clear to the hot girl that she is not welcome. I made it clear that she is a friend and can stay with me as long as I want her to. On the other hand, the poor thing just sat there like a good little girl taking all this abuse from 3 girls. We were like little kids. When “J” walks away, we would be all huggy and kissy. When she returns, we set like well-behaved children.

Anyways, I finally had her. Carlos and Mr. “L” commented that I might lose my girl of her. I said I would not mind risking all the girls in MTY for this one.

She asked about you. The guy with the cookies.

Wasted

[MonterreyDude]

No "U".
Mr W is refering to the N girl, who was part of the E-B-N trio (remember my E girl? The B girl is still working at the P place, but at night).
The N girl is only there for a couple of days. She won't be working after Christmas.




Congratulations on conquering that one. She is HOTTTTTTTTTT!!!! But, of course, you probably had to take NITROGLYCERIN tablets for your heart in addition to all that Viagra you HAVE TO TAKE :-), especially if she stayed with you for 12 hours (hahahah, just joking mi amigo).

So, how does it feel to have a HOTTTTTTT girl, a youngster really, spend 12 hours with you? Actually, I know the feeling quite well, and it's blissful. So you have my sincere congratulations. You have graduated to the head of the class.

But, philosophically, and based on my own experiences, I must comment on what I believe her present psychological state of mind might be. Hopefully, my comments will make some sense. I am speaking from considerable experience, with significant periods of mental anguish in trying to figure them out. I hope that what I say will assist you in your approach as the dynamic changes. And, it will surely begin to change. Watch for it, anticipate it, and you will be better prepared to contend with it.

Remember, in her mind, you now owe her something BIG TIME. She will be expecting special consideration. You will have to deliver if you want to hold onto her for future liasons. Frankly, I warn you to be expecting the scenario to last a relative short period of time, and enjoy it for as long as you can.

I've learned that these girls are really screwed up mentally, and they have a hard time holding it together. The nature of their business causes many of them to fluctuate mentally with respect to their perspectives on life, love, happiness, money, etc... It's kind of "psychological compensation adjustment."

The longer they are in the business, the more their sweetness diminishes, and the more unstable their thought processes seem to be over time, making it very difficult for you to assess their next move, and your next move. It will possibly become more difficult for you to interpret her reactions, and to properly implement your future approach to her in order to maintain your desired outcome. Not because you are any less adept at having the skill, but because her thought processes with respect to "you" will be in the ditzy "female zone."

That's the core of the problem. Once you get them in your bed for todo la noche, especially for as long a time as 12 hours, especially if they are staying for free, or even if they take a huge discount off their normal fee to be with you, you take on a different position in their minds. Once they start to treat you like a real boyfriend, then eventually the scenario deteriorates in much the same manner as what occurred between me and angry girl.

I'm not suggesting there is any "real" relationship between you in the conventional sense, boyfriend/girlfriend. But, make no mistake, a relationship now exists, a relationship with significantly more expectation on her part. A relationship that has it's own set of rules, rules that actually are quite similiar with respect to normal business relationships where honesty, fidelity, loyalty, and patronage are all part of the mix. Whether you know it or not, you are in a very complicated business relationship with her now, one that also has all the pitfalls of a romantic relationship.

IMHO, "HOT Girl" will expect you to give her preferential treatment, whereas before you did not owe her anything. With that one, I expect that she does not usually just give it up to just anyone, not even for money. The way I imagine she looks at it, she gave it up to you, even if you paid her a huge fee. Remember, so many of these girls now look at what they do as something other than "Pay-4-Play." This generation of girls view themselves more like angelic compassionate nurses, and less as prostitutes.

Carlos and I have noticed the change in how the girls of this present generation view themselves. Perhaps the change makes handling them much more complicated than in the past. Ask Carlos about it...he will clarify my comments in detail.

[Member #3453]

But, I don't really understand to what you refer...did I go wrong in my basic assumptions about "N" girl. I am almost sure I am thinking the same girl. But, regardless, I think those conclusions in my prior post apply across the board to almost all girls in the biz.

You mentioned that "N" won't be back after Christmas. Why not? I thought she was on staff at the "P" place. What happened that she won't be returning? I suppose if she won't be returning, then my conclusions probably don't neccessarily apply, but I am surprised that she's not coming back after Christmas.

I know who you mean when you refer to "B" girl, our cookie monster. I'm sure I'm remembering "N" from before, and I do recall "E," your girl, as well.

To me, if I am remembering the right girl, which I am sure I am, "N" really resembles a Philipina, but lighter skin and hair, and much sexier than the average Philipina in AC.

But, with many Mexican girls, I can see a trace of Asian ancestory, a really sexy combination, IMHO, and something that makes girls with a hint of Asia in their ancestory very attractive. The mexican girls that have that trace of Asian influence can give a pretty Philipina a run for their money every time, provided they aren't too fat...not that many Philipinas are thin by any stretch of the imagination, but "N" has really great proportions...and sooooo young that one.

But, why doesn't "N" work after Christmas? You mean she has already gotten on the program with WastedG, and he is sending her support payments :-) or what?



No "U".
Mr W is refering to the N girl, who was part of the E-B-N trio (remember my E girl? The B girl is still working at the P place, but at night).
The N girl is only there for a couple of days. She won't be working after Christmas.

[El Cabron 007]

Spent 9 days in MTY. This is the longest I have stayed and I initially thought I would get real bored. Heck NO. The 9 days ended so fast I only had an hour to leave one club and pack. It was 4:30 Am and my flight was at 7:30. So I decided I'd miss the flight and, if I cannot get on another, so be it. More time to spend with my lovelies.

I did the usual: Buy them drinks, take'em upstairs, take them home and then take them to dinner and a movie. All were awesome. Not a single disappointment.

The highlights were getting the hottest girl, by chance, while I was at Obsession. I was setting with my regular girl when "Hot girl" that I have not seen in 3 months walks in and smiles at me with shyness. Could that be her? No way. I simply ignored her. Then as I made my way to the restroom, she yells out my name.. Oh my God. It was her. Hot damm. I talked to her a little then went to the bathroom. I was too wasted to even think about her. When I walked back, it hit me again; this is one that would seal the deal for my trips to MTY. I sat with her a little; thinking about how my regular would react, I invited her to set with me anyway. Sure enough, I get the nastiest looks from everyone.

Carlos arrives, late as usual, so she hides her face against my chest to surprise him. His jaws dropped when he saw her. Needless to say, my regular kept pulling me, literally, away from her. Told her to respect the fact hat I am with a friend. She did ... .not.

Hot girl ended up coming over at 10 pm and stayed with me until 10 am the next day. Wasted was a very happy man. Mr. "L" and I stayed up for 2 hours just listening to her talk. She would not shut up and we did not mind. We had no clue what she was saying but we knew it was making fun of my regular girl "He's not your friend, he's my client. Go away. leave him. he's mine ... etc" She did her so well we were cracking up laughing until she finally decided to sleep. Oh yeah, I lent her one of my T-Shirts that she wore the entire time we were just watching her. Mr. "L" though I should've given her a shorter shirt. She is HOT just to l ook at.

What was also interesting is that she invited other girlfriends to come over and have a party in my hotel room. Sure, what the heck. Sounds like fun.... That is until I found out they were coming at 2 AM after leaving a party where they have been drinking already. No thanks. I asked to call and cancel.

Now Carlos had no idea that the one oft he other girls was his girlfriend. He got mad at me. I was again about to ruin another one of his girls.

Here comes the other major event: Friday night, Mr. "L" and I go to a dance club with 4 girls from the "I" place. 3 others from the Prestige were no show. As we were having a great time, I walked down to the restrooms. There was a dressing room along the way with a hot sexy girl getting ready to perform on stage at this club. She sticks her head out and starts to watch me. Then she comes all the way out and calls out my name. What the hell? Who is this? It was America from Prestige. One of my regulars. Hot dam Wasted, Now you know the star of the club?

After hugging and kissing, she tells me she works at this dance club performing. She's tha star there. When she started her show, she looked for me in the crowd. How special is that? She called out my name "while performing". Out of all the people cheering her on, she calls out for Wasted.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. That stage is a little round raised stage in the center of the dance club. To everyone's surprise, including me, Wasted and his "P" girl was dancing on stage. This is the first time Wasted has danced in public in over 20 years.

I cannot describe how great this trip was.

Saturday night, 4 of my regulars were in the line up at the "I" place. I decided I would shock them all. I approach the stage and act like I need to decide which one I want to take up stairs. I pointed to each one then I chose one hot girl I always had my eyes on but I never had the nerves to even say hello to before. All the girls were shocked. What the hell is Wasted doing. Even the girl I picked could not believe I choose her. She gave this big smile, "Me?". She is a keeper with me. I will see her next time.

Then I did it again. Another 19 yo cutie that puts them all to shame. Same game and same shock to all including Mr, "L". What surprised me was how she carried herself on the floor. So arrogant and impossible to talk to. But she too gave me the sweetest smile when I picked her. "Me?" The surprise for me was how sweet and innocent she was. Just like a shy bride on her wedding night. With braces ... She too is in my book now.

Now I have over 9 regulars. I think I have more than enough.

USB, Carlos: Watch your steps next time you go to the "I" place. The next one you pick could be mine.

Wasted

[Member #3453]

WastedG,

Lately, I can find NO good candidates for bar fining out of the "I" place. Frankly, I am disillusioned with the "I" place these days. The girls are seemingly harder and harder in attitude there.

Frankly, I have noticed a change in the girls in the "I" place over the last several months. The girls seem like they are becoming real hardened pros. Because of that, they are starting to seem more like streetwalkers to me than not. When I start to view them more as streetwalkers, instead of GFE material, they lose all their appeal.

If you know of some decent candidates to bar fine out of the "I" place, let me know because I am running totally out of options there. I have options elsewhere, but the "I" place is taking a real back seat to other clubs lately.

After visiting this last time, I really doubt that there are any girls in the "I" place that would appeal to me. I'm glad you had a great time, but I don't find any there that particularly appeal to me these days. It is getting more and more difficult to find good ones there, IMHO. If you disagree, then let me know who you recommend because I have no viable options there anymore.

I am open minded to the idea of considering other girls in the "I" place, but so far, none have really appealed to me after Angry Girl. And now, even she no longer appeals to me. Fact is, she has become very unappealing lately, and not because she is angry with me, but more because her attitude reflects the new hardened and independent attitude of most girls working in the "I" place lately.

I am finding girls in other clubs that have much better attitudes, are much sweeter, are much more loving, are much more appreciative of my patronage than what I have been finding lately in the "I" place.

I am finding girls elsewhere that are not nearly as "used up" as the girls seem to be in the "I" place. The girls in the "I" place see so much "action" that they are so dry and numb when you get them back to the room. But, as always, I am open minded, and open to being convinced otherwise.

Tell me, whom can you honestly recommend that has not displayed a more independent and hardened attitude, or one that does not show the mileage that the "I" place puts on them in just a very short period of time?


Spent 9 days in MTY. This is the longest I have stayed and I initially thought I would get real bored. Heck NO. The 9 days ended so fast I only had an hour to leave one club and pack. It was 4:30 Am and my flight was at 7:30. So I decided I'd miss the flight and, if I cannot get on another, so be it. More time to spend with my lovelies.

I did the usual: Buy them drinks, take'em upstairs, take them home and then take them to dinner and a movie. All were awesome. Not a single disappointment.

The highlights were getting the hottest girl, by chance, while I was at Obsession. I was setting with my regular girl when "Hot girl" that I have not seen in 3 months walks in and smiles at me with shyness. Could that be her? No way. I simply ignored her. Then as I made my way to the restroom, she yells out my name.. Oh my God. It was her. Hot damm. I talked to her a little then went to the bathroom. I was too wasted to even think about her. When I walked back, it hit me again; this is one that would seal the deal for my trips to MTY. I sat with her a little; thinking about how my regular would react, I invited her to set with me anyway. Sure enough, I get the nastiest looks from everyone.

Carlos arrives, late as usual, so she hides her face against my chest to surprise him. His jaws dropped when he saw her. Needless to say, my regular kept pulling me, literally, away from her. Told her to respect the fact hat I am with a friend. She did ... .not.

Hot girl ended up coming over at 10 pm and stayed with me until 10 am the next day. Wasted was a very happy man. Mr. "L" and I stayed up for 2 hours just listening to her talk. She would not shut up and we did not mind. We had no clue what she was saying but we knew it was making fun of my regular girl "He's not your friend, he's my client. Go away. leave him. he's mine ... etc" She did her so well we were cracking up laughing until she finally decided to sleep. Oh yeah, I lent her one of my T-Shirts that she wore the entire time we were just watching her. Mr. "L" though I should've given her a shorter shirt. She is HOT just to l ook at.

What was also interesting is that she invited other girlfriends to come over and have a party in my hotel room. Sure, what the heck. Sounds like fun.... That is until I found out they were coming at 2 AM after leaving a party where they have been drinking already. No thanks. I asked to call and cancel.

Now Carlos had no idea that the one oft he other girls was his girlfriend. He got mad at me. I was again about to ruin another one of his girls.

Here comes the other major event: Friday night, Mr. "L" and I go to a dance club with 4 girls from the "I" place. 3 others from the Prestige were no show. As we were having a great time, I walked down to the restrooms. There was a dressing room along the way with a hot sexy girl getting ready to perform on stage at this club. She sticks her head out and starts to watch me. Then she comes all the way out and calls out my name. What the hell? Who is this? It was America from Prestige. One of my regulars. Hot dam Wasted, Now you know the star of the club?

After hugging and kissing, she tells me she works at this dance club performing. She's tha star there. When she started her show, she looked for me in the crowd. How special is that? She called out my name "while performing". Out of all the people cheering her on, she calls out for Wasted.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. That stage is a little round raised stage in the center of the dance club. To everyone's surprise, including me, Wasted and his "P" girl was dancing on stage. This is the first time Wasted has danced in public in over 20 years.

I cannot describe how great this trip was.

Saturday night, 4 of my regulars were in the line up at the "I" place. I decided I would shock them all. I approach the stage and act like I need to decide which one I want to take up stairs. I pointed to each one then I chose one hot girl I always had my eyes on but I never had the nerves to even say hello to before. All the girls were shocked. What the hell is Wasted doing. Even the girl I picked could not believe I choose her. She gave this big smile, "Me?". She is a keeper with me. I will see her next time.

Then I did it again. Another 19 yo cutie that puts them all to shame. Same game and same shock to all including Mr, "L". What surprised me was how she carried herself on the floor. So arrogant and impossible to talk to. But she too gave me the sweetest smile when I picked her. "Me?" The surprise for me was how sweet and innocent she was. Just like a shy bride on her wedding night. With braces ... She too is in my book now.

Now I have over 9 regulars. I think I have more than enough.

USB, Carlos: Watch your steps next time you go to the "I" place. The next one you pick could be mine.

Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

USB: I was sure I posted a reply to your last post. hmmm..

Anyways, I can recommend a couple for you that will please you to your ultimate satisfaction. Just let me know when. A couple of girls will defiantly give you the GFE you are looking for but you must understand they belong to Wasted. Take them for a spin and kick the tires. If you like the way they drive, take'em home and thank me later. Never tell them I sent you.

My "P" girl is worth all the love you can give her and she will love you in return. She's my local wife there. I'll share.

Then there is this new "B" girl. She's the kind you'd proud to be seen with on Madero. Does not at all look like a working girl. As a matter of fact, she is the most dignified of them all. Carries herself so well and so proud you would think she's a stuck up but will rock your world in bed.

You wanna feel like a pervert? Take my "X" girl. She's like your great grandchild. I call her nina grande and she calls me grand pa. She will get you off on the you way to the hotel. She plays like a shy little girl but will make you scream. Her only flaw is that she tries to milk you for money. Never pay her upfront but do pay her the regular fee.

This other one, you may have to buy her some breast milk. You can not imagine how hot she is if you see her in the club. She is the one of 2 I thought were untouchables.

And finally, the "J", the other "J", not Carlos' "J". The most obedient girl you can find in MTY. Set, stand, roll over, please me ... come, go .. turn around, I love it when I call her over. She runs to me, and just sets waiting for my next instruction. All she wants in return is a music CD. She loves music. Burn her a CD and she will be yours forever.

And if you behave, I'll introduce you to the most precious of them all, she is so precious to me that I will not sleep with her and I will not grope her at the club either. You met her once at the PDA when you said, "Where the hell did you find this one?" She comes to my room unannounced just to be with me but I would not have sex with her. I can't. She's too precious.

All the girls I mentioned above 'are' precious to me. Knowing you, I have no worries about mistreatment. Still, I feel I should remind you to please take care of them the way you would look after a dear friend. The fact that they are working girls still remains, but they are still fragile and can easily be hurt. I have not been mean to any of them and will never, intentionally, do anything to hurt them. I truly love them and care for them in a sense only you and I understand.

My “S” girl is a robot that only I know which buttons to push. I do not think you can handle her.

My “J” girl from the “O” place can be your ultimate GFE. I do not mind but I feel she would. Do not tell her I OK’ed it but feel free to take her.

Wasted


WastedG,

Lately, I can find NO good candidates for bar fining out of the "I" place. Frankly, I am disillusioned with the "I" place these days. The girls are seemingly harder and harder in attitude there.

Frankly, I have noticed a change in the girls in the "I" place over the last several months. The girls seem like they are becoming real hardened pros. Because of that, they are starting to seem more like streetwalkers to me than not. When I start to view them more as streetwalkers, instead of GFE material, they lose all their appeal.

If you know of some decent candidates to bar fine out of the "I" place, let me know because I am running totally out of options there. I have options elsewhere, but the "I" place is taking a real back seat to other clubs lately.

After visiting this last time, I really doubt that there are any girls in the "I" place that would appeal to me. I'm glad you had a great time, but I don't find any there that particularly appeal to me these days. It is getting more and more difficult to find good ones there, IMHO. If you disagree, then let me know who you recommend because I have no viable options there anymore.

I am open minded to the idea of considering other girls in the "I" place, but so far, none have really appealed to me after Angry Girl. And now, even she no longer appeals to me. Fact is, she has become very unappealing lately, and not because she is angry with me, but more because her attitude reflects the new hardened and independent attitude of most girls working in the "I" place lately.

I am finding girls in other clubs that have much better attitudes, are much sweeter, are much more loving, are much more appreciative of my patronage than what I have been finding lately in the "I" place.

I am finding girls elsewhere that are not nearly as "used up" as the girls seem to be in the "I" place. The girls in the "I" place see so much "action" that they are so dry and numb when you get them back to the room. But, as always, I am open minded, and open to being convinced otherwise.

Tell me, whom can you honestly recommend that has not displayed a more independent and hardened attitude, or one that does not show the mileage that the "I" place puts on them in just a very short period of time?

[MonterreyDude]

Please do not worry... I'll take care of all your girls.



USB: I was sure I posted a reply to your last post. hmmm..

Anyways, I can recommend a couple for you that will please you to your ultimate satisfaction. Just let me know when. A couple of girls will defiantly give you the GFE you are looking for but you must understand they belong to Wasted. Take them for a spin and kick the tires. If you like the way they drive, take'em home and thank me later. Never tell them I sent you.

My "P" girl is worth all the love you can give her and she will love you in return. She's my local wife there. I'll share.

Then there is this new "B" girl. She's the kind you'd proud to be seen with on Madero. Does not at all look like a working girl. As a matter of fact, she is the most dignified of them all. Carries herself so well and so proud you would think she's a stuck up but will rock your world in bed.

You wanna feel like a pervert? Take my "X" girl. She's like your great grandchild. I call her nina grande and she calls me grand pa. She will get you off on the you way to the hotel. She plays like a shy little girl but will make you scream. Her only flaw is that she tries to milk you for money. Never pay her upfront but do pay her the regular fee.

This other one, you may have to buy her some breast milk. You can not imagine how hot she is if you see her in the club. She is the one of 2 I thought were untouchables.

And finally, the "J", the other "J", not Carlos' "J". The most obedient girl you can find in MTY. Set, stand, roll over, please me ... come, go .. turn around, I love it when I call her over. She runs to me, and just sets waiting for my next instruction. All she wants in return is a music CD. She loves music. Burn her a CD and she will be yours forever.

And if you behave, I'll introduce you to the most precious of them all, she is so precious to me that I will not sleep with her and I will not grope her at the club either. You met her once at the PDA when you said, "Where the hell did you find this one?" She comes to my room unannounced just to be with me but I would not have sex with her. I can't. She's too precious.

All the girls I mentioned above 'are' precious to me. Knowing you, I have no worries about mistreatment. Still, I feel I should remind you to please take care of them the way you would look after a dear friend. The fact that they are working girls still remains, but they are still fragile and can easily be hurt. I have not been mean to any of them and will never, intentionally, do anything to hurt them. I truly love them and care for them in a sense only you and I understand.

My “S” girl is a robot that only I know which buttons to push. I do not think you can handle her.

My “J” girl from the “O” place can be your ultimate GFE. I do not mind but I feel she would. Do not tell her I OK’ed it but feel free to take her.

Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

Carlos, you pervert. That was not meant for you. Unless you too are welling to share. ARE YOU?

Wasted


Please do not worry... I'll take care of all your girls.

[El Cabron 007]

USB: I have to admit another bad habit: I do not follow advices only to learn that I should've. Although I lecture others to take it from someone who's been there, i still have a hard time following my own advice until I get bitten, sometimes more than once.

As for this HOT HOT HOT girl, I will take things as they come. You might be interested to know that I now put little efforts into the other local non-working girl that I told you about. I call her towards the end of my visit and ask her very simply if she wants to meet me at the dance club, along with 5 other girls. Once she starts to list excuses, I end the conversation by saying "I’ll call you later" but I never do. I have seen her a couple of time but really have no interest in putting too much effort into it.

I do not put any effort into any relationship in MTY. I have walked away from other girls (regulars) for simply asking me about how much am I willing to pay. They all know the standard fee and I will instantly lose interest if they dare to ask for more money. They usually come around and accept instantly.

Same is the case with HOT HOT HOT girl. I love spending time with her and she is the sexiest girl in MTY. But the minute she starts to play games with me, it will be me saying "Call me later" and so far, it is working fine with that non-working girl. Why should I put any extra efforts when I have 15 favorites to choose from and 10 of them that are willing to go home with me in a heart beat? Most ask me before I ask them. Some for an all nighter at no extra charge. They actually feel obligated to fulfill any demands I have. I even throw some of them at Mr. "L" so he too can enjoy what I treasure. This is in no way intended as dumping girls on him but sharing precious ones with a dear friend.

On the opposite side, since Mr. "L" is a stud, in their eyes, they too appreciate it when I let them share my buddy. They all fall head over heals from him. Carlos and I tried many times to tell him all the clubs were closed so he won't come. He is a threat to all of us :)

In summary, don't worry about me and HOT girl. If she moves, I'll dump her instantly. Meanwhile, I will enjoy her until I have had enough. If she behaves, she is mine until she gets tired of me. Either way, I still have 10 to 15 alternative and they are still adding up. I would be happy just staying at the "I" place. Again, one poor dude was asked to move because he was sitting at one of my favorite tables. Mr. "L" thinks, and I agree, that we get the full VIP treatment at all the clubs we visit.

Someday, I will visit the other clubs we never been too. But only for a few minutes since I am not about to put any efforts into making any new relationships. I have plenty to choose from.

Next time we are in MTY, follow my lead. I'll set you up. I know you're the expert but I still think you can use some of my bold moves. I am not bragging but I have done things that even Carlos was shocked to watch. He believes some of these girls will corner me someday and give me what I deserve. Not sex, but a good beating :) ...

Wasted



Congratulations on conquering that one. She is HOTTTTTTTTTT!!!! But, of course, you probably had to take NITROGLYCERIN tablets for your heart in addition to all that Viagra you HAVE TO TAKE :-), especially if she stayed with you for 12 hours (hahahah, just joking mi amigo).

So, how does it feel to have a HOTTTTTTT girl, a youngster really, spend 12 hours with you? Actually, I know the feeling quite well, and it's blissful. So you have my sincere congratulations. You have graduated to the head of the class.

But, philosophically, and based on my own experiences, I must comment on what I believe her present psychological state of mind might be. Hopefully, my comments will make some sense. I am speaking from considerable experience, with significant periods of mental anguish in trying to figure them out. I hope that what I say will assist you in your approach as the dynamic changes. And, it will surely begin to change. Watch for it, anticipate it, and you will be better prepared to contend with it.

Remember, in her mind, you now owe her something BIG TIME. She will be expecting special consideration. You will have to deliver if you want to hold onto her for future liasons. Frankly, I warn you to be expecting the scenario to last a relative short period of time, and enjoy it for as long as you can.

I've learned that these girls are really screwed up mentally, and they have a hard time holding it together. The nature of their business causes many of them to fluctuate mentally with respect to their perspectives on life, love, happiness, money, etc... It's kind of "psychological compensation adjustment."

The longer they are in the business, the more their sweetness diminishes, and the more unstable their thought processes seem to be over time, making it very difficult for you to assess their next move, and your next move. It will possibly become more difficult for you to interpret her reactions, and to properly implement your future approach to her in order to maintain your desired outcome. Not because you are any less adept at having the skill, but because her thought processes with respect to "you" will be in the ditzy "female zone."

That's the core of the problem. Once you get them in your bed for todo la noche, especially for as long a time as 12 hours, especially if they are staying for free, or even if they take a huge discount off their normal fee to be with you, you take on a different position in their minds. Once they start to treat you like a real boyfriend, then eventually the scenario deteriorates in much the same manner as what occurred between me and angry girl.

I'm not suggesting there is any "real" relationship between you in the conventional sense, boyfriend/girlfriend. But, make no mistake, a relationship now exists, a relationship with significantly more expectation on her part. A relationship that has it's own set of rules, rules that actually are quite similiar with respect to normal business relationships where honesty, fidelity, loyalty, and patronage are all part of the mix. Whether you know it or not, you are in a very complicated business relationship with her now, one that also has all the pitfalls of a romantic relationship.

IMHO, "HOT Girl" will expect you to give her preferential treatment, whereas before you did not owe her anything. With that one, I expect that she does not usually just give it up to just anyone, not even for money. The way I imagine she looks at it, she gave it up to you, even if you paid her a huge fee. Remember, so many of these girls now look at what they do as something other than "Pay-4-Play." This generation of girls view themselves more like angelic compassionate nurses, and less as prostitutes.

Carlos and I have noticed the change in how the girls of this present generation view themselves. Perhaps the change makes handling them much more complicated than in the past. Ask Carlos about it...he will clarify my comments in detail.

[MonterreyDude]

Well... you CAN try... but I don't see success for you.



Carlos, you pervert. That was not meant for you. Unless you too are welling to share. ARE YOU?

Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

Share? Nahhh .. Not your girls. You and I have completely different tastes in girls. As I said before, to each his own. However, if you fancy any of my girls, you're welcome to them. I do not own them. I think the only girl we have in common was/is "J" from the "I". Although the "B" girl from the "P" place drives me nuts, or is it 'drives my nuts'?

The clubs were closing at 10 pm last Sunday. So we were told at the "I" place. I suspect they were not open on Monday either. I am thinking late January or early February for my next trip.

Which reminds me, if you need anything from the U.S., please give me advance notice so I can order ahead. Or 'you' can place the order online and have them delivered to my home address so I can bring it with me. Not too big since I carry a small case that can barely fit my cloths and the mongering equipment.

Wasted


Well... you CAN try... but I don't see success for you.

[Member #3453]

Regarding potential non-pro action, and specifically with respect to your non-pro contact in MTY, WastedG...

What we get from our best "playmates" in MTY are things we can not get from a legitimate relationship. That's why I always marvel at what we can experience in the club environment compared to anything we can regularly experience within the confines of a legitimate relationship.

We will never quite experience the depth of satisfaction we can experience from "unrestricted" sexual experimentation and variety delivered by experienced sluts that know the real score. That isn't meant to suggest that our wives or girlfriends can't satisfy our needs. They can, and do...but, only according to a certain "controlled" extent. They will never be able to satisfy our needs like our MTY club girls can satisfy our needs. Why?

Most females in legitimate relationships DO NOT have sufficient motivation within the confines of their relationships to cater to the depth of the male need, nor do many of them even have a basic of understanding of the male psyche as it relates to the depth of our needs sexually and sensually.

Because our MTY club girls are "acting" to benefit themselves directly. They know exactly what to do, generally because of the range of their experience, and as result of having serviced so many different men. Many times they know what we want without our even asking. But, I believe they satsify the depth of our desires because they are better equipped and better motivated to do so.

However, take the pro out of the bar, and I venture to speculate that their performance will be the same as all committed men regularly experience from their more conservative wives and girlfriends. So, IMHO, it is the "environment" that provides the catalyst to our being satisfied. Take the girl out of the bar, and you will experience the same thing that all pussy whipped guys experience on a daily basis. That is why the MTY environment is so important a thing.

Plus, if we are looking for 100% fulfillment from a legitimate relationship, it always comes back to this...

Our wives or girlfriends, austensibly "Good Girls," simply don't have the full range of experience dealing with male need, especially if they are living within the sexually repressive culture in the USA. IMHO, our MTY club girls are indoctrinated in a more sensual culture to begin with, and they are, because of their jobs, also more experienced with the whole concept of male need than our wives and girlfriends could ever hope to comprehend.

In addition, our wives and girlfriends don't experience the urgency that our club girls experience with respect to making sure we ARE satisfied. Our wives and girlfriends might get around to trying to satisfy us eventually. Depending on the type and personality of the particular wife or girlfriend, she may make a gallant attempt to provide activity that she believes will result in our desired level of male satisfaction, sometimes out of love and emotion, sometimes with urgency, sometimes with a flare for the slutty, and sometimes only out of obligation. But, unfortunately, when most girls apply a female perspective to the subject of male desire, with no other experience to draw upon, they fall significantly short of the mark. Bless their little hearts for trying, verdad? NO, if they are not true sluts by nature, they don't really have a prayer in competing with our favorite MTY club girls.

If she is a "good girl," she is likely to mistakenly apply a female interpretation of what she believes a male wants. She may not realize that in order to compete with girls like our favoritas in MTY, she must turn into something that she probably views as degrading, a threat to her own ego. Most "good girls" do not comprehend how much we adore a real slutty girl.

If she has always been a "good girl," she may not even understand the male psyche sufficiently to even know where to begin to match the performance of our MTY club girls. That's fine for marrying, or for a legitimate committed relationship, a relationship where you don't have to worry about them running around on you, a relationship where you have a girl you can count on, one you can come home to, but not so great for frequent, intense, sexual, sensual, male fulfillment.

So, your decision not to waste your time on non-pros, WastedG, is a wise one, IMHO. I think you would have been juggling between your reliable MTY club girls, while also attempting to avoid hurting a legitimate "good girl."

That is, of course, assuming she is not a slutty girl herself. Which, in such a case, you probably lost out on a very good time by not cultivating that relationship.




Share? I think the only girl we have in common was/is "J" from the "I". Although the "B" girl from the "P" place drives me nuts, or is it 'drives my nuts'? Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

USB: I dated tons of girls in my younger years. They were all good girls and fall into the category you described. However, there was one special HOT girlfriend that gave me incredible sex. Every ‘single’ night was a wild night. She worked in a department store and got home real late every night (that's where I met her). I either pick her up or buzz her in. I eagerly waited for her every night because I knew I was getting great sex come bedtime. She had the greatest body, petite and sexy and she was very pretty. We were engaged and a wedding date was set. USB, I tell you, she gave me the best sex ever and even when we broke up a couple of times, she would still come over and ask if we can remain friend. Friends with sex. How could I say no? She was better than any of the girls in MTY. Really.

But wait, if you call now ...

Here's the drama: She was from Hawaii. She told me once that Hawaii bars are an easy pick up place. A man and a girl can casually and openly agree to have sex. Little did I know. This was over 20 years ago and I was simply innocent, or call it dumb. I had no clue.

Then an x-girlfriend explained to me ... I still thought she was just jealous.

As luck would have it, I met another girl that came from a good family and I married her instead. She is my lovely wonderful wife.

Years later, I came to understand what those clubs were. Do you get the picture? I was dating a pro. She worked on me the same way she worked on her clients. Difference is, she was a legitimate girlfriend that I was about to get married to.

The only explanation I have as to how could she be so good in bed was exactly what my x-girlfriend told me. She was a prostitute.

So there you have it. You want fantastic sex? get a pro. You want a good life? get a good wife.

Wasted


Regarding potential non-pro action, and specifically with respect to your non-pro contact in MTY, WastedG...

What we get from our best "playmates" in MTY are things we can not get from a legitimate relationship. That's why I always marvel at what we can experience in the club environment compared to anything we can regularly experience within the confines of a legitimate relationship.

We will never quite experience the depth of satisfaction we can experience from "unrestricted" sexual experimentation and variety delivered by experienced sluts that know the real score. That isn't meant to suggest that our wives or girlfriends can't satisfy our needs. They can, and do...but, only according to a certain "controlled" extent. They will never be able to satisfy our needs like our MTY club girls can satisfy our needs. Why?

Most females in legitimate relationships DO NOT have sufficient motivation within the confines of their relationships to cater to the depth of the male need, nor do many of them even have a basic of understanding of the male psyche as it relates to the depth of our needs sexually and sensually.

Because our MTY club girls are "acting" to benefit themselves directly. They know exactly what to do, generally because of the range of their experience, and as result of having serviced so many different men. Many times they know what we want without our even asking. But, I believe they satsify the depth of our desires because they are better equipped and better motivated to do so.

However, take the pro out of the bar, and I venture to speculate that their performance will be the same as all committed men regularly experience from their more conservative wives and girlfriends. So, IMHO, it is the "environment" that provides the catalyst to our being satisfied. Take the girl out of the bar, and you will experience the same thing that all pussy whipped guys experience on a daily basis. That is why the MTY environment is so important a thing.

Plus, if we are looking for 100% fulfillment from a legitimate relationship, it always comes back to this...

Our wives or girlfriends, austensibly "Good Girls," simply don't have the full range of experience dealing with male need, especially if they are living within the sexually repressive culture in the USA. IMHO, our MTY club girls are indoctrinated in a more sensual culture to begin with, and they are, because of their jobs, also more experienced with the whole concept of male need than our wives and girlfriends could ever hope to comprehend.

In addition, our wives and girlfriends don't experience the urgency that our club girls experience with respect to making sure we ARE satisfied. Our wives and girlfriends might get around to trying to satisfy us eventually. Depending on the type and personality of the particular wife or girlfriend, she may make a gallant attempt to provide activity that she believes will result in our desired level of male satisfaction, sometimes out of love and emotion, sometimes with urgency, sometimes with a flare for the slutty, and sometimes only out of obligation. But, unfortunately, when most girls apply a female perspective to the subject of male desire, with no other experience to draw upon, they fall significantly short of the mark. Bless their little hearts for trying, verdad? NO, if they are not true sluts by nature, they don't really have a prayer in competing with our favorite MTY club girls.

If she is a "good girl," she is likely to mistakenly apply a female interpretation of what she believes a male wants. She may not realize that in order to compete with girls like our favoritas in MTY, she must turn into something that she probably views as degrading, a threat to her own ego. Most "good girls" do not comprehend how much we adore a real slutty girl.

If she has always been a "good girl," she may not even understand the male psyche sufficiently to even know where to begin to match the performance of our MTY club girls. That's fine for marrying, or for a legitimate committed relationship, a relationship where you don't have to worry about them running around on you, a relationship where you have a girl you can count on, one you can come home to, but not so great for frequent, intense, sexual, sensual, male fulfillment.

So, your decision not to waste your time on non-pros, WastedG, is a wise one, IMHO. I think you would have been juggling between your reliable MTY club girls, while also attempting to avoid hurting a legitimate "good girl."

That is, of course, assuming she is not a slutty girl herself. Which, in such a case, you probably lost out on a very good time by not cultivating that relationship.

[Member #3453]

Isn't it interesting to be able to now look back on the "skill set" of your old HOT girlfriend, and to realize that a girl can only develop that range of ability and enthusiasm through significant experience, especially if they are of a young age. I also theorize that many of the pros adopt the life of a pro because they run HOTTTTTTTTTT!!!

I've found that most "good girls," the marrying type, the type that make for good companions, good mothers, faithful wives, etc...do not run HOT like a male, and they are relatively inexperienced sexually, and not typically adventurous sexually. Conversely, my best girls in MTY seemingly have a sexual appetite that almost seems more like that of a male.

But, that having been said, there is a difference between our MTY club girls as well. Some of them are mere actresses. Many of them do not have the horny excessive male "desire" for sex that others of them have. For some, it is all an act. But, there are a few that run HOT all the time, and their desire and enthusiasm is real. That girl I used to see in El Cielo was HOT all the time. Then, there are others that are merely there to provide a service, and some do not seemingly have the inherent "enthusiasm" that only a continually HORNY girl can deliver.

Your HOT ex-girlfriend sounds like she ran HOT all the time, and she was trying to hook you to establish her legitimized lifestyle. That doesn't mean that she did not have legitimized love and affection for you that was sufficient for marriage, but it does mean that you could have been in for some real heartache down the road, especially if in fact she was a former pro.

Most of the club girls we see in MTY willl eventually get married. Most of them start to realize they are losing their youth around age 25, and they will begin to consider the "legitimate" life. The girls will undoubtedly deliver great sex in order to hook a guy to achieve their "legitimate" lives.

I know a club girl in MTY, and real sweetheart too. She confides in me about her hopes and dreams. You want to know the thing that weighs on her mind the most? She is worried that there are no faithful men to be found. Can you believe it? Here is a pro, thinking about legitimizing her life, and she, of all types of girls, having the experience with men that she has, is worried that she won't find a man that will be faithful only to her. The double standard lives, even amoung the pros. Of course, I try to tell her that "I" am faithful to her, but somehow, she does not believe me :-) She once asked me how many women I had been with already in my life, and before I could answer, she blurted out the answer, "Mil" (1000) she asked. I laughed it off, and said, NOOOOOOO!!!!! No muchas, maybe 700-800, no mas.

I have always wondered what becomes of the pros that eventually legitimize their lives. Do they establish a normal "family" life? Do they screw around on their husbands? Do they remain faithful because they value their legitimized lives? Do their husbands ever figure out their past profession? Do the girls routinely deliver great sex to their husbands on a frequent and skillfully conscientous level, and is it any better than any of us get from our "good girl" wives and girlfriends? Do the girls turn tricks for extra money well into the marriage? Having a HOT running faithful wife is one thing, but to have a HOT running former pro might be an entirely different thing.

I theorize that most of the pros in MTY that eventually legitimize their lives will deliver sex skillfully to their husbands. But, I believe most of the pros in MTY do not run HOT, and most of them will deliver sex to their husbands out of obligation, with no more than a normal level of female desire and enthusiasm. With respect to their sex lives, their husbands will be no better off than those of us that married "good girls."

The guys that marry the HOT running pros from the clubs, the girls that run hot all the time, will have wives that are unbelievably good bed partners, but I theorize they will be wives that will also be simultaneously screwing around on them constantly. I also think that all of the former pros, whether they run HOT or not, will turn tricks after they legitimize their lives, especially when the money gets tight, and for sure if their children need things.

So, from a purely selfish male perspective, while the HOT pros seem tempting as potentially legitimate partners, sexually, they are probably much more trouble than they would ever ultimately be worth. That's why, from a purely male hypocritical perspective, we are much better off patronizing the HOT pros in MTY, and maintaining our legitimized lives back home.

God bless our sweet, loving, trustworthy, nurturing legitimized wives and girlfriends...they try so hard, but they can never really compete with the pros sexually. But, conversely, the pros can not compete with our legitimized partners emotionally. The way I see it, the balance in my life is maintained by visiting MTY, and my world, as a whole, is at peace.


I was dating a pro. She worked on me the same way she worked on her clients. Difference is, she was a legitimate girlfriend that I was about to get married to. Wasted

[El Cabron 007]

This is Carlos posting from WastedG room:
Ok guys, both of you USB and WG... when do the violins start playing?



Isn't it interesting to be able to now look back on the "skill set" of your old HOT girlfriend, and to realize that a girl can only develop that range of ability and enthusiasm through significant experience, especially if they are of a young age. I also theorize that many of the pros adopt the life of a pro because they run HOTTTTTTTTTT!!!

I've found that most "good girls," the marrying type, the type that make for good companions, good mothers, faithful wives, etc...do not run HOT like a male, and they are relatively inexperienced sexually, and not typically adventurous sexually. Conversely, my best girls in MTY seemingly have a sexual appetite that almost seems more like that of a male.

But, that having been said, there is a difference between our MTY club girls as well. Some of them are mere actresses. Many of them do not have the horny excessive male "desire" for sex that others of them have. For some, it is all an act. But, there are a few that run HOT all the time, and their desire and enthusiasm is real. That girl I used to see in El Cielo was HOT all the time. Then, there are others that are merely there to provide a service, and some do not seemingly have the inherent "enthusiasm" that only a continually HORNY girl can deliver.

Your HOT ex-girlfriend sounds like she ran HOT all the time, and she was trying to hook you to establish her legitimized lifestyle. That doesn't mean that she did not have legitimized love and affection for you that was sufficient for marriage, but it does mean that you could have been in for some real heartache down the road, especially if in fact she was a former pro.

Most of the club girls we see in MTY willl eventually get married. Most of them start to realize they are losing their youth around age 25, and they will begin to consider the "legitimate" life. The girls will undoubtedly deliver great sex in order to hook a guy to achieve their "legitimate" lives.

I know a club girl in MTY, and real sweetheart too. She confides in me about her hopes and dreams. You want to know the thing that weighs on her mind the most? She is worried that there are no faithful men to be found. Can you believe it? Here is a pro, thinking about legitimizing her life, and she, of all types of girls, having the experience with men that she has, is worried that she won't find a man that will be faithful only to her. The double standard lives, even amoung the pros. Of course, I try to tell her that "I" am faithful to her, but somehow, she does not believe me :-) She once asked me how many women I had been with already in my life, and before I could answer, she blurted out the answer, "Mil" (1000) she asked. I laughed it off, and said, NOOOOOOO!!!!! No muchas, maybe 700-800, no mas.

I have always wondered what becomes of the pros that eventually legitimize their lives. Do they establish a normal "family" life? Do they screw around on their husbands? Do they remain faithful because they value their legitimized lives? Do their husbands ever figure out their past profession? Do the girls routinely deliver great sex to their husbands on a frequent and skillfully conscientous level, and is it any better than any of us get from our "good girl" wives and girlfriends? Do the girls turn tricks for extra money well into the marriage? Having a HOT running faithful wife is one thing, but to have a HOT running former pro might be an entirely different thing.

I theorize that most of the pros in MTY that eventually legitimize their lives will deliver sex skillfully to their husbands. But, I believe most of the pros in MTY do not run HOT, and most of them will deliver sex to their husbands out of obligation, with no more than a normal level of female desire and enthusiasm. With respect to their sex lives, their husbands will be no better off than those of us that married "good girls."

The guys that marry the HOT running pros from the clubs, the girls that run hot all the time, will have wives that are unbelievably good bed partners, but I theorize they will be wives that will also be simultaneously screwing around on them constantly. I also think that all of the former pros, whether they run HOT or not, will turn tricks after they legitimize their lives, especially when the money gets tight, and for sure if their children need things.

So, from a purely selfish male perspective, while the HOT pros seem tempting as potentially legitimate partners, sexually, they are probably much more trouble than they would ever ultimately be worth. That's why, from a purely male hypocritical perspective, we are much better off patronizing the HOT pros in MTY, and maintaining our legitimized lives back home.

God bless our sweet, loving, trustworthy, nurturing legitimized wives and girlfriends...they try so hard, but they can never really compete with the pros sexually. But, conversely, the pros can not compete with our legitimized partners emotionally. The way I see it, the balance in my life is maintained by visiting MTY, and my world, as a whole, is at peace.

[MonterreyDude]

Many have asked how are the clubs right now and if it is a good time to plan a trip.
Definitly not a good time.
Clubs like Inifinito are dead compared to 15 days ago. Girls tend to slow down during Christmas and New Years, firstly cause they go for vacation time or just quality time with their families.
The clubs on Madero ave are also slowing down.
The girl presence might go as low as 60% from the regular numbers. Some places it might go even lower.
Thing is there is no money for them. People are saving so they can have fun on New Years....

[Member #3453]

It sounds like WastedG must have had a bad time this weekend then. Well, I would never actually believe that MTY would yield a bad time, but when you are used to having outstanding experiences like WastedG is used to having, a 60% reduction in the talent pool has to be a shocker, verdad?

I would not recommend going to MTY during the holiday season. Many of these girls are from outside of MTY. Some are from far outside of MTY. Many of them return to their home towns for the holidays to visit family members that have NO IDEA what they do for a living, and only see them once or twice a year. So, it seems to me after having talked to a number of the girls over the years, that the girls take this opportunity to live a relatively "normal" family life existence, at least for a couple of weeks each year anyway.


Many have asked how are the clubs right now and if it is a good time to plan a trip.
Definitly not a good time.
Clubs like Inifinito are dead compared to 15 days ago. Girls tend to slow down during Christmas and New Years, firstly cause they go for vacation time or just quality time with their families.
The clubs on Madero ave are also slowing down.
The girl presence might go as low as 60% from the regular numbers. Some places it might go even lower.
Thing is there is no money for them. People are saving so they can have fun on New Years....

[El Cabron 007]

No USB. My time is filled to a point that some of my girls are asking why I have taken them out yet. My girls are here.

And yes, many of them live far away and either left or are about to leave for a couple of weeks.

Get this: I ride to the "O" place. As I get out of the taxi, this knockout girl is walking out of the main gate just as I was about to enter. I thought to myself "what a hot girl. She is so pretty" and then I instantly realized.. She's my "J" girl. She had an argument and decided to walk out. had I been a minute late, I would not have found her. We ended up spending the entire afternoon together. Had a great time. I think "J" is the most genuine girl I have in MTY. Sweet and loving. Does exactly what I like for a girl to do. She is now asking me to visit her at home with her mom and daughter. I do not see this happening any time soon.

Later, made my way to the "I" place where Carlos was doing his usually chase. 3 of my girls are still here. My "S" is leaving tomorrow. "J" is already gone. "X" is here and so is "P". I am as happy as can be. I was the envy of the hoodlums having "S" and "X" giving me a great time while most of the girls pass by me and stop to give me a kiss and a hug. Carlos' friend was shocked. "You know all these women?"

This is not to say that the club is full. You can definitely feel the gap. Many of them are gone for a couple of weeks.

Me? On top of the world. Well, at least a couple of girls. Don't worry about me. I'll find them with my chicas radar.

Wasted



It sounds like WastedG must have had a bad time this weekend then. Well, I would never actually believe that MTY would yield a bad time, but when you are used to having outstanding experiences like WastedG is used to having, a 60% reduction in the talent pool has to be a shocker, verdad?

I would not recommend going to MTY during the holiday season. Many of these girls are from outside of MTY. Some are from far outside of MTY. Many of them return to their home towns for the holidays to visit family members that have NO IDEA what they do for a living, and only see them once or twice a year. So, it seems to me after having talked to a number of the girls over the years, that the girls take this opportunity to live a relatively "normal" family life existence, at least for a couple of weeks each year anyway.

[Doubt98]

Many have asked how are the clubs right now and if it is a good time to plan a trip.
Definitly not a good time.
Clubs like Inifinito are dead compared to 15 days ago. Girls tend to slow down during Christmas and New Years, firstly cause they go for vacation time or just quality time with their families.
The clubs on Madero ave are also slowing down.
The girl presence might go as low as 60% from the regular numbers. Some places it might go even lower.
Thing is there is no money for them. People are saving so they can have fun on New Years....

I just returned from Monterrey and Carlos is correct. The talent pool is small. There are still hot ones to be found, but ALL the girls were in great demand. I saw one girl at the Matehuala try four times to get on stage but was picked up before she could climb the steps.
The girls were busy and were not willing to negotiate. But why should they when it's like this. I knew the situation before I left but this was the only free time I had.