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Polvo
11-23-06, 19:57
If your in town today and wish to repent & repast, The gringo community will be headed over to the Union Church for prayers & turkey w/trimmings.

Tonight after midnight will be "business as usual"!

LB

LB - Are you going to follow the old tradition after the meal of giving your native guests colored beads and then killing them?? :-)

Polvo

Dan D Dick
11-23-06, 20:02
Arrived at the JW Marriott about 1:30AM. If I were younger I would have headed out. But I'm not. I had a lot to get done on this trip so I expected to be on my laptop a good 8 - 9 hours a day or more. Woke up Wednesday late, had a freebie breakfast in the concierge room & worked all day. My only break was to cross the street for lunch about 3 PM. Get back to work then break at 8 for a freebie dinner in the concierge room. Been in town almost 24 hours & I've only left the hotel for lunch.

I walk around the corner from the Marriot & get a cab & ask him to take me the the Flying Dog Bar on Diez Conseco. BTW - "flying" comes out as "fleeing" to the locals. Damn my spanish is poor. Anyway, he gets me to the Flying Dog Hostel & I get out. Cost S4. The bar is right around the corner with VERY small lettering. There's another name that's much more prominent. Remarkably small bar. Lots of women, though I suspect none are P4P. I have a beer & give up.

I exit the bar, turn right & there's two ladies approaching me. One older & prettier than the other (Charo) the other younger, blondish hair & a huge rack (Yanet). We strike up a conversation in broken english. They're both from the jungle north of Lima (I thought you other guys were kidding....). We agree on $50 US each.

After a short cab ride back to the Marriott we head in. I'd prefer to avoid the shame of trying to check in two girls & having problems (had this issue at the Sao Paulo Renaissance & it wasn't fun). Plus, I'm only paying $53 on a Continental discount I'm probably not elegible for anyway (they never asked for Continental ID). Instead of getting off on 2 & walking past the counter to the elevators we get off on 4 & slide around a convention group. Onto the elvators & we're home free.

Get in the room, have some whiskey (I brought a bottle of Jack) and we start having a bit of fun. A three-some shower, plenty of grab-ass and a good time later & they hint for a free dinner. Yanet had all but inhaled the nuts I had in my room (not my personal nuts...) & I figured they hadn't eaten in awhile so I acquiesced.

We exit by the registration desk on the 2nd floor & got plenty of looks. Headed across the street to the Larcomar center & settled at the Cafe. Charo had never had wine before & wanted to try it (!). I had a beer (wasn't hungry) & they both ate like they were famished. Overall a very good experience. Charo asked if they could spend the night with me. I politely declined (dumbass??) but we set something up for this evening instead (dumbass again?).

I've still got loads of work to get done but I hope I can enjoy myself here a bit more.

Couple of photos in the appropriate section.


/Dan D.

Louie OK
11-23-06, 20:06
Hiy'all Lima mongerers. I've been in Quito for awhile and am looking for some change. I've been eyeballing Lima a bit since the weather is similiar to here temperature-wise, yet not so damn wet as the season in Quito has become. Also, the chongo seen here is getting a bit old, though I don't know enough of how Lima or Peru compares. That research of this sites posts will come later as neccessary.

Lima Busy and others who might know:
I want to improve my spanish skills and have done some researeching of such schools in Lima. There doesn't seem to be to many listed there compared to Cusco or Quito [where they are a dime dozen]. Schools El Sol and EEC appear to be more expensive. Many in Quito are between $4 & 6/hour one-on-one. I haven't been able find a website
for ICPNA, but I'm wondering -- surely there are more aren't there? Maybe not. Another option of course would be private instruction away from any school that would take a cut of the teachers salary.

Any thoughts or ideas ?

I would probably bus it from Quito to take in the scenery along the way but would also likely go back to Quito to fly out of the continent. Flights appear to be cheapest to/from there to MX, Europe, and the states. Even Quito-Lima I believe costs hundreds of dollars. Crazy . . .. .


Bobisee

Member #4351
11-23-06, 20:14
I feel some dejavu coming on...didn't this topic just get discussed a few days ago? For those who need help and don't like to read the forum: http://www.icpna.edu.pe/

Lima Busy
11-23-06, 21:24
LB - Are you going to follow the old tradition after the meal of giving your native guests colored beads and then killing them?? :-)

Polvo
Polvo,
In Peru we don't give the natives dinner, we just give them the colored beads and "shag 'em".

Dan D Dick,
The weather is too nice to sit in the Marriott all day. Hop a cab to cafe Z tomorrow ( I am here now) about 11 am and you can use their wi-fi!

Flying dog aka/Tasca bar gets a mix of pro/non-pro/brichera/Lesbian/gay/backpacker/local/foreigner and varies by the night and hour to hour. But there is not a girl there that will turn down your money! Most guys go because the pickin's are free and if you run into a regular they can point out the girls to avoid.

I have been babysitting a 18 y/o Aussie hottie all day who is lookin for some fun while her boyfriend is away in the states. Try as she might, she can't understand I won't shag "Blanca's".

LB

Polvo
11-23-06, 23:49
Polvo,
In Peru we don't give the natives dinner, we just give them the colored beads and "shag 'em".

LB

Ahhh!! Death by shagging!!! (A different kind of dance!)

Polvo

Louie OK
11-24-06, 01:53
I feel some dejavu coming on...didn't this topic just get discussed a few days ago? For those who need help and don't like to read the forum: http://www.icpna.edu.pe/Sorry to dejavu you. Thanks for the link, though. I did use the forums search engine first before posting. The Lima thread itself is over 2300 post which is quite a bit of sifting through. I've a sinking feeling that Lima's schools could use a good deal more competition before I'd fork over the kind of dough they want.

Member #4351
11-24-06, 02:14
If you will read the comments on the ICPNA, you will see that as a bonus you get tons of cuties who are studying English in the same location, many of whom would love to practice their language and other skills with you. Best to check everything out once you are here. It may be that the prices on their English language page are more than they ask of a walk-in.

Louie OK
11-24-06, 18:52
If you will read the comments on the ICPNA, you will see that as a bonus you get tons of cuties who are studying English in the same location, many of whom would love to practice their language and other skills with you. Best to check everything out once you are here. It may be that the prices on their English language page are more than they ask of a walk-in.I certainly would enjoy those "bonuses", but I'm still trying find out the cost of the spanish courses. Obviously, I'm not interested in the english courses or their prices (except for maybe some social interaction. The ICPNA website seems to be down now. While I was there the other day though, I couldn't find any links describing such information. Maybe one would just have to take their chances and show up there to see what they offer and at what prices.

Lima Busy
11-24-06, 19:05
I certainly would enjoy those "bonuses", but I'm still trying find out the cost of the spanish courses. Obviously, I'm not interested in the english courses or their prices (except for maybe some social interaction. The ICPNA website seems to be down now. While I was there the other day though, I couldn't find any links describing such information. Maybe one would just have to take their chances and show up there to see what they offer and at what prices.
Offhand ,I would say about $50.00 +- a month. You need to start the beginning of the month and take a test to see what level you should be in. Not all levels start every month. Also the different campuses offer different cycles.
LB

LB

Louie OK
11-25-06, 00:32
$50 a month sounds good to me. Of course it matters the amount of hours in the time period (whether it's 1-6 hrs/day, 5 days/week, etc).
I'm guessing the other campuses are of the same ICPNA.
Will try contacting them for more details.
Thanks.

Duesy45
11-25-06, 15:26
Bobisee,

I just checked my budget/expense records from last year and the cost at ICPNA for one month was S/.370. At the current exchange rate (3.20) this comes out to about $115 per cycle (one month).

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Duesy

Dan D Dick
11-25-06, 21:03
Have you looked at http://elsol.idiomasperu.com? I have no idea as to how it rates quality-wise but I was considering them for myself later in the year. I still have to work for a living & was considering a visit to CTG or LIM for a month (once I can coordinate it with family & work), then planning on 2 week follow-up courses 3 or 4 times a year or so for the next 2 - 3 years. I suspect some of the follow-up courses will either be less efficient or I'll have to invest in private tutoring. The goal is to get fluent before I die & can't use what I've learned....


On another note, decided to visit the Banos Turkos on Avenida de la Marina (at Rafael Escardo) this morning. Taxi from the Marriott was S.15 outbound & S.12 return (plus tip). Why the hell does it cost $30US to get the same distance from the airport?? Anyway, never been to a place like that. My OCD friends would not be able to tolerate the communal nature inside but I found to a very relaxing experience. Sauna, [very] HOT tub, steam, pool, food, drinks, very good massage by Betty (another reason to get fluent...) with lovely bbbj & covered cg finish. Really recommended for the relaxation factor. Total damage for an hour & a half was S.240. Not cheap but certainly worth it. Maybe a half dozen gals to choose from, some certainly better than others.

Also - if you've followed my positings on the photo section with the drunk jungle girls, they tracked my down in the casino next to the Marriott last night about 7. They stuck to me like glue while I was playing BJ. Rude as I could be they hung on. [sp?] Finally, about 9 or so I was up about $60 US & cashed out. Then came a rehearsed apology & offers of anything in the world. I felt much better after I told them no, adios!

LB - you're right - the weather is beautiful & I enjoyed getting out today. OTOH, my workload gives me a good excuse to return........ I have to juggle a full time job, nearly a full time consulting business, wife, child in college, AND my fun times. When I'm home I usually work 70-80 hours a week, nearly all with very flexible schedules. That's why I take so many trips - to get caught up & to get away!

Gentlemen - I sincerely appreciate the guidance you've given me by way of this forum. Many thanks.


/Dan D.

Polvo
11-25-06, 21:16
Have you looked at http://elsol.idiomasperu.com? I have no idea as to how it rates quality-wise but I was considering them for myself later in the year. ..........Gentlemen - I sincerely appreciate the guidance you've given me by way of this forum. Many thanks.

/Dan D.

Dan:

El Sol offer courses over the Internet using Vonage which are good if you are in Sex Prison. I use them and they are good, and it keeps good continuity instead of a month gap - I recommend them. The negative is that they give you instructions in Spanish - part of their total immersion technique - which I find a pain in the ass.
(If I could understand the Spanish instructions I wouldn't need lessons!! Cart before the fuc*ing horse....I waste the first ten minutes trying to work out what we are doing and the rest of the time playing catch up. Best thing to do - which I do now - is stop the instructor and ask "what the f*ck" in English. Get the lesson plan stated in English and then all is cool.)

I would also recommend a book called "Alpha Teach Yourself Spanish" ISBN 0-02-863616-3. It will take you months to get through it but it is invaluable for pronunciation, grammar, conjugation etc. (It says Spanish in 24 hours - well two years on I still haven't got to the end!!)

And - in deference to this forum - there is nothing that will help more in getting laid than a gringo that speaks Spanish!!

Suerte

Polvo

Member #4351
11-25-06, 21:28
Dan D Dick,

When you learn Spanish you will hopefully be able to avoid being over-charged on your future trips by the girls, the MPs and the taxis. You paid too much for all three. That is not to say that some girls are worth $50 or even more, however...

As an alternative you could have RTFF and/or contacted those who live here to find out what the costs of a cab to Miraflores, a couple of not so young or cute girls from Comas, or a massage parlor in San Miguel. But the fact that you are staying in the Marriott probably means that an extra $20 here or there isn't that important. IMHO it's not the money, I just don't like being taken advantage of.

You write excellent posts, and post some interesting pics. You don't deserve to be ripped off, unlike some of the guys who come down here.

Dan D Dick
11-26-06, 00:00
David -

I appreciate your candor. In all honesty many years ago those dollars were very important. But in my phase of life $20 here or there or even $100 here or there isn't going to make me lose any sleep. Don't get me wrong, I'm far from rich but I have learned that if I sweat the little stuff or even the extra bucks I can't keep focused on the positive side of life. I like to sleep well at night not with that gnawing, pissed-off feeling.

Remember, I'm here for a handful of days only. So what if by the time I leave I've wasted $100 or even $200? [note that this mentality only works if the offset is a good time and not being pissed by not getting the "best deal"]. I work hard in life, have been fortunate in health & education and don't look back if I don't always get the best deal. Don't get me wrong - if I'm successful in coming back for my immersion course(s) and spend more time here I'll get much cheaper & much tougher on the deals. I don't like to waste money & I don't like to be taken advantage of, but some of that is going to occur when I'm outside my element. Particularly if I'm a visitor to someone else's country and haven't even learned their language. Sorta goes with the territory. On the other hand I've visited over 60 countries, so learning every language is certainly not a viable option.

Feel free to be critical of my choices - I appreciate the feedback. Hell, when I visited Panama City a month or so ago I got bashed for my choice in ladies. That caused a bit of introspection & I gained from it. And I raised my standards and that followed me to CTG where I had a ball with higher-caliber ladies.

Oh, I have rtff (a couple of times). I'm also not a very hard-line negotiator yet but that's mostly my problem. As to the Marriott, I have no problem negotiating there ($53 a night + tax with free breakfast, lunch & dinner). If I come back for the spanish class & can still get that rate that's where I'll stay.

My work schedule makes it difficult to become fluent in spanish, but that's a problem I'm going to overcome. I'll make you proud one day, Dad!


/Dan D.

Lima Busy
11-26-06, 00:54
As to the Marriott, I have no problem negotiating there ($53 a night + tax with free breakfast, lunch & dinner). If I come back for the spanish class & can still get that rate that's where I'll stay.



/Dan D.
Damn that Marriott guy, He is putting me out of business!
LB

Polvo
11-26-06, 02:59
....$53 a night + tax with free breakfast, lunch & dinner.


Damn that Marriott guy, He is putting me out of business!
LB


You got to ask how he did that!! :-)

Polvo

TheCatsMeow88
11-26-06, 04:47
Dan D Dick may be new to Lima but one place where he did NOT get ripped off is at the Marriott. The Marriott is also my hotel of choice in Lima and I have never heard of anyone paying only $53 per night, breakfast, lunch and dinner included.

Is that a corporate or airline rate? What are the magic words I have to say to get that rate when making a booking? Can I just mention that I am vaguely connected to Dan D Dick? Will that be enough?

Joking aside, I am assuming that the meals are for one person only or were you able to get meals for the chicas thrown in for that price? And what about booze? I was charged 24 soles for a Baileys in the Marriott Lounge on my last trip.

The Cat

Dan D Dick
11-26-06, 07:52
I am assuming that the meals are for one person only or were you able to get meals for the chicas thrown in for that price? And what about booze? I was charged 24 soles for a Baileys in the Marriott Lounge on my last trip.

The Cat

You can bring two guests in no charge. After that there's a fee (don't know what it is). BTW - breakfast is usually scrambled eggs, sausage, bacon, a gazillion fruits, rolls, cheezes & other things. Lunch is basic finger sandwiches & extras, Dinner usually has three entrees (all technically horse dovers) plus a load of other stuff. If you stay here a week you'll get a little bored but you could certainly go all day without leaving the building (unfortunately I did that twice on this trip).

The kiuller here is that the desserts are great. I often take at least a full plate back to my room along with half a dozen sodas every day. Cookies, chocolate-dipped strawberries, and all those damned little sweet things.

Bring you own booze - I brought a bottle of Jack Daniels from the state ($18US) and it was gone in 5 days. Next time I'll bring two.

/Dan D.

I'll pm you with the basics.

Lima Busy
11-26-06, 21:42
Bring you own booze - I brought a bottle of Jack Daniels from the state ($18US) and it was gone in 5 days. Next time I'll bring two.


I only pay $15 here in Lima, but I only get 3 days or 1 really really good afternoon out of my bottle!
LB

Polvo
11-26-06, 22:30
While we are discussing the cost of booze the above phemomena has just been mathematically proven. At last the British have done something useful!!

Researchers at Manchester University say while beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder, the amount of alcohol consumed is not the only factor. Additional factors include the level of light in club, the drinker's own eyesight and the room's smokiness. The distance between two people is also a factor.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/4468884.stm?lsf

The formula would explain Tequilla!!

Cheers!

Polvo

Louie OK
11-27-06, 05:51
. . .. . the negative is that they give you instructions in spanish - part of their total immersion technique - which i find a pain in the ass.
(if i could understand the spanish instructions i wouldn't need lessons!! cart before the fuc*ing horse....i waste the first ten minutes trying to work out what we are doing and the rest of the time playing catch up. best thing to do - which i do now - is stop the instructor and ask "what the f*ck" in english. get the lesson plan stated in english and then all is cool.) . . .. .this has been one of my major pet peeves regarding the spanish emersion programs. i really believe that the grammer theory should be taught in the language the student understands well, esp. beginners. once our spanish knowledge is good enough, then it's seems more resasonable that total emersion could include theory as well. i wouldn't recommend total emersion spanish for english only speakers until they have had at least a basic spanish course in english unless they've money and time to waste. of course there are those exceptionable student who learn well under most any conditions. i certainly am not one of them.

my first time learning spanish in spanish was exciting at first, but then i got progressively isolated from the learning process as i knew less and less of what was going on. after about two weeks, a fellow classmate finally pulled me aside and helped me figured out my problem. i didn't know how to conjugate verbs because all that theory was done in spanish! all my speaking was done with unconjugated or infinitive verbs only. for those learning english, they have it easier in a sense, because we only have 1 to 2 conjugations per tense vs. 5 to 6 in spanish. can you imagine learning chemistry in arabic or swahili if you don't know those languages? geez.

i'm sure this sounds dry to many here readers, but our communications skills (which in part means language) are near the top of the list in getting our sexual needs met. money also seems to make a difference, ahem . . .. .

Aurab
11-27-06, 15:38
Recently I spent 17 days in Lima. This was my first trip to Peru. Objective of my trip was to learn Spanish language a little, know the culture and mongering. All three items are equally important. I have reported on my experience with two Lima hotels on Lima Hotel Recommendation section few days ago.

I enrolled myself in a Spanish language school in Lima for two weeks for basic Spanish.( I do not wish to name the school here. If someone is interested to know the name and the details, pm me). The classes and optional activities each day arranged by the school take almost all day. The classes are in the morning, 9 to 1 pm, then the cultural activities starting at 2:30 pm and some continued up until 6 pm. I took group Spanish lessons for a week and then private lessons for the following week. I find the instructors are very good and helpful. The cultural activities include trips to museums, walking tour of Miraflores, salsa dance lessons and Peruvian cooking etc. Although these are optional activities, I participated in all of them. Cost of participating in those activities are minimal. I recommend the school to anyone who is interested. Entire stuff of the school was very helpful in every respect. Caution: the school is not a place for mongering.

However a word of caution: I find the course is intense and the instructors assign home work every day. I am a 50+ years old guy. Other students in my class were young guys and girls. They are lot faster than me in learning the language. I was the slowest in the group. Talk about getting old! So I had to work after the classes about an hour every evening. On top of that, my ego took a lot of beatings in those group classes! However, at the end of two weeks, I made significant progress, especially with the listening skill.

I stayed with a host family for a week arranged by the school. I was very keen to know their life style, standard of living of middle class Peruvians. The family I stayed with consists of retired professionals of husband and wife. They have a beautiful home, comparable to any average North American home. My room was quite private and comfortable. I ate similar food as they eat every day. Nothing special. They made sure that I am comfortable. In every sense, they are an ideal host. The husband spoke few words of English and the wife none. My Spanish at the time was better than his English! The cost of homestay is modest.

The disadvantage was that the family was a little away from Miraflores. So I was a shutin after I returned to the family at the end of the day. The husband and I took walks for few days after super. All in all, my experience with a host family was quite positive.

Mister Wonder
11-27-06, 22:25
Jackson,

I have seen this guy attack Nibu all the time. I see He is back again flaming under one new report. Who is this flamer guy? I think Nibu helps out a lot. I think a vote should be had on banning gringo loco 2 again. Lets see If Jackson can approve this for sure. Nibu make them run like hell. Keep up the good work.

Yujin
11-28-06, 06:06
Have you looked at http://elsol.idiomasperu.com? I have no idea as to how it rates quality-wise but I was considering them for myself later in the year. I've attended group classes at El Sol and enjoyed my lessons. I had prior knowledge of Spanish, but it was still challenging. I especially enjoyed the conversational class. I also had a cute teacher.

The only "knock" on El Sol is the cost. I took private lessons in Quito and Cuenca for $6 and $7 per hour. In my situation, the private lessons were the most beneficial since the instructor could focus on my weakness.

Karaoke
11-28-06, 07:18
November 27, 2006

Jackson,

I have seen this guy attack Nibu all the time. I see He is back again flaming under one new report. Who is this flamer guy? I think Nibu helps out a lot. I think a vote should be had on banning gringo loco 2 again. Lets see If Jackson can approve this for sure. Nibu make them run like hell. Keep up the good work.


Does anyone else see a similarity here? If I had read this report without knowing who the author was, I would have been 99.9% sure that it was penned by Nibu.

Karaoke

Member #4351
11-28-06, 16:20
IMHO Mr. Wonder is not Nibu, he writes too coherently. However his post should have been made in the Nibu thread.

Lima Busy
11-28-06, 19:00
I've attended group classes at El Sol and enjoyed my lessons. I had prior knowledge of Spanish, but it was still challenging. I especially enjoyed the conversational class. I also had a cute teacher.

The only "knock" on El Sol is the cost. I took private lessons in Quito and Cuenca for $6 and $7 per hour. In my situation, the private lessons were the most beneficial since the instructor could focus on my weakness.
El Sol is probably the most expensive option in Lima but they do provide a nice congenial atmosphere and as others have said occassionally they get some pretty hot & sweet teachers.
LB

Aurab
11-30-06, 19:59
Non Pro:

I spent seventeen days in Lima which included three weekends. About two months before I went to Lima, I registered myself with one of the dating sites. I put up my profile and added what I was looking for. I emphasized that I was not looking for any long term relationship, just for some fun outings. I also would like to practise my Spanish with them. I received few replies. I decided to meet four women face to face. I like MILFs, I wanted women between 35 to 45 years of age. All those women were within that age range.

I have only one Saturday day and night during the first week of my visit. So I asked one of those four to come on Saturday at 2pm and would go for a walk and coffee. She arrived at my hotel right on time. I invited her to my room, but she refused. Instead we went for a walk and talked and had coffee. She was very friendly, but I was not sure what she was looking for. Against my better judgement, I asked her if she would be interested to go for supper and clubbing a little. She agreed. To make a long story short, the entire evening cost me about $80 and I got nothing! My initial intuition was right! Finally about 11 pm, I made an excuse that I am tired and would like to go to bed. So we departed there. She sent me another email later, but I never replied.

I met two more following weekend. After two separate lunches with those two, I did not want to waste anymore of my valuable vacation time. I realized that it is unlikely that, I am going to get lucky. That was my first and last meetings with those two. I still have one more to go. Being disappointed, I thought I would try pro/semi pro scenes. That story a little later. All those women I met are all beautiful women and all of them have full time jobs.

On my last weekend in Lima, being in sperm management mode, I thought I am going to try the last one just for fun. So I send her an email and she replied right back saying that she is free for the weekend. Coincidently, she lives only few blocks from my hotel. She showed up on Friday afternoon. I did not invite her to my room, instead went for coffee. It was obvious that she was going to be an willing partner! But that Friday and Saturday night I had a date with a pro/semipro. I told her I was free for all Saturday daytime and all Sunday. She showed up on Saturday right on time for lunch. She came to my room, watched some soccer game and did our thing. I asked asked her up front, what she is expecting from me. She started talking about how her $150 rent has not been paid up and she needs a pair of jeans. I said I would help her a little on the rent and buy her a pair of jeans. At the end I paid her $100 cash, a pair of jeans and a handbag, of course good food and drinks. This woman was 41 years old, looks like in her early thirties, excellent in bed. I was very satisfied with the sex part. She said she is a taxi driver, but not working that weekend. I never saw a woman taxi driver in Lima though. I am not sure she told me the truth or not. She may be a semipro! She came to see me off at the airport. I gave all my soles to her ( about 70 soles) and some toiletries. When I came back home, I noticed that my camera was missing with all the pictures I took in Lima. I am not sure she took it or I left it at the hotel.

In my experience, these type of women are more expensive than a pro and you have to listen to their whinning.

Member #4351
11-30-06, 20:58
From the description, I think she should have paid you.

Polvo
11-30-06, 22:04
....She said she is a taxi driver, but not working that weekend. I never saw a woman taxi driver in Lima though. ......In my experience, these type of women are more expensive than a pro and you have to listen to their whinning.

Aurab:

I have, and they are infinitely better drivers than the men!! Also, there is no such thing as a free lunch, although I agree with David 33, and you have my sympathies. Next time someone like ScrewedUp can probably help you - he hangs out with the older MILF's.

Suerte!

Polvo

Screwed Up
11-30-06, 23:20
Are you kidding me? Las time I banged an older MILF was in Colombia 3 months ago.
Lately 've been banging a lot of tight bodied young chicks. Like this 20yo non-pro chick from Etheria last night. Huuuuuge hooters.
And I met this 18yo tight bodied surfer girl last week. Lima Busy ran into us at Parque Kennedy last Sunday.
Looking at these girls' bodies makes me wanna spend more time in the gym...

Aurab, I'm kinda suprised that your MILF hit you up for that kind of money, considering the fact that even pro MILF's wouldn't. The older they get, the more expensive?...
Nice report.

Jose Marcia
12-01-06, 00:32
So far, I have taken about 30 mongering trips to approximately 20 countries. But, somehow, a trip to Lima was never materialized. I got so much help from this board that I am obliged to write a report. A lot has been reported already, therefore I will just write my experience. Since my sample is very small, my experience may be very different than the actual normal behavior of Peruanas. I hope that this report will be helpful to a few fellow mongers. Some may find only a little information in between the lines. If not, the perverted minds like mine will enjoy some sexual details.

Also, I would like to apologize for my writing skills. English is my 2nd. language. I speak a little Spanish. However, with the help of a pocket dictionary, I can keep the a decent conversation for days. Unfortunately, when my speaking skills start to improve, it is always time to return to the old US.

Thursday, 11/16/06: I arrived Lima (30K American Airline air miles) via Miami, early in the morning. As soon as I got out of the custom, took a left turn and walked to the end. Changed some $s (S3.12/$). Walked up to the departure area and asked a cab driver to take me to Miraflores (Quadro de larco). He asked for S20 and I had no problems with that. He took the scenic route, and I arrived Hotel Maria Luisa at 7:00AM. I had no prior reservation. They told me that they had no rooms available. As soon as I told them that I want a room for a week, they mysteriously came up with a room (# 603 @ S100/night rate). After a quick nap, I left my room. Got the best exchange rate from the street walkers (S2.20/$). I found a grocery store (3 blocks) near Hotel Las Americas and bought some water, beer, wine, fruits, and some honey. They did not have any condoms, so I had to take a 2nd. trip to a pharmacy.

Speaking of honey, I look like 40 but I am 50 years old. Viagara helps me go all night long but after a couple of days, I usually can not cum more than once a day - even some days, not even once. I eat honey 3-times a day and take 1/3 Viagara before sex. That helps me cum 1-2 times a day. May be it is just in my mind, but whatever works!

I had a prior arrangement with David33 for an evening date. I called him to reconfirm. Since I had some time on my hand, I took a cab to Centro de Masaje, Calle 2 de Mayo, #611 (half a mile, from my hotel). There was a girl (5 in looks, 22 YO) available for a massage. I chose an hour massage option, and she gave a very nice massage. However, she kept her hands off the areas that could stimulate me sexually. I did not mind that at all. The bill was S27. I gave her S20 tip. Took a long walk back to my hotel. That massage helped me sleep for a few hours.

The reception called my room @ 6:30 PM to inform me of Katty’s arrival. I asked them to send her upstairs to my room. She was 21 YO, and just wonderful. After half an hour, we left for the Restaurant Jose Antonio. David was kind enough to agree to meet us there. All of us arrived at the same time. I found him a highly educated, decent, and a very helpful man who is not afraid to go out of his way to help the fellow mongers. I am glad that I met him. After a dinner and a Pisco sour each, we departed.

Katty and I came back to my room, and after half hour talk, we had a great sex. She was an experienced girl, and there was not much to teach her. She wanted to enjoy sex as well. That is the way, I like it. She had great breasts and her shaved pussy was extremely tight. Her asshole was even tighter. I inserted a finger, as I usually do to all the girls. I never ask! If the girl does not like it, I do not take it any farther. But, after seeing and feeling how tight she was, I changed my mind and did not analize her. We did it in all the positions, all over the bedroom. I did not take long to cum. I would give Katty a 9 in looks and body, 9.5 in sex, and the same in attitude.

We talked some more. I got horny just by looking at her body. She gave me a BBJ that was out of this world. The bedroom sofa already had some stains. She made sure that I notice how my cum was dripping from her mouth to her breasts to her belly and down to sofa. I guess she wanted me to appreciate her hard work. So be warned of all those stains! Think before sitting on the sofas in that hotel, unless that is what turns you on! ha ha ha. She had no problem if I took her photos (nude, clothed, or during sex). As a matter of fact, she loved posing for the photos. I simply hate taking photos during sex. Katty left well after midnight. I simply crashed on the bed. What a wonderful way to start my trip!

I am sending a few photos to David33. If he thinks it is appropriate, he will post those photos for me. David, thanks a lot man! You sure are a great friend, that I can count on! Without you, my trip could not have been that great!

Friday 11/17/06: My favorite meal is breakfast. Therefore, I went to Hotel Las Americas and ate a decent breakfast. (S50). I found a girl (Mili, 21 years old) thru Amigo.com. We were emailing back and forth. She had told me that she lives alone and that I could live with her and that she would come pick me up at the airport. I had declined her for all that. I called her cell number. She was so excited. She agreed to see me right after work (5:30 PM). She also gave me her home phone number. I had the whole day for myself.

I called K at 11 AM. (The Cat referred her. Thanks a lot! I appreciate your effort. I had already emailed her and had her response that I should call her whenever I want to see her.) She said that she could come to my room in one hour. After hour and a half, I called her again. She said that she will be there in another half an hour. She never showed up.

I left my room at 2 PM and went to Relax Y Vida. Three good looking girls were available. After a 5-minute chat, I could not decide which one to take. As per my request, the girls tossed, and I took the winner (19 YO) with me. BTW, one of girls knew David, and she told me that he is a good man. She tried to give me a Thai massage. However, it is not even close to being as good as Thai. The girl gave me a nice body-to-body massage. Her big breasts helped her efforts. She did everything and anything that I guided her to. No sex was availbeable on site. I had to settle for a BBJ. After the deed was done, she even put my shoes on for me. I came out as a happy man. Walked a couple of blocks and hailed a taxi. Came back to my room and slept.



It was 6:30 PM and, by then, Mili (Amigo.com) was not at my hotel. I called her home and, after lots of apologies, she said that she will be at my room at 8 PM. She did not show up until 9 PM, and I gave up on her. I went to San Ramon (Pizza Alley) to eat my dinner. I did not find anything to my liking there. I thought about taking an alternative and bring a girl to my room, but I was too tired. I just went to my room and slept.

Saturday 11/18/06: I had a few more contacts left from Amigo.com. On the bottom of my list, I had a girl’s phone number. She had sent me two one-line emails. She was the oldest on my list. She was 27, had 7-year university studies, and had set up a private medical consulting business a year earlier. She had told me in an email that she could meet me on Saturday during the day. I called her at 10 AM at her cell phone. She got very excited. I asked her that what is the earliest she could meet me. She said how about an hour! Within half an hour, I got a call from the receptionist that Lisa (not her real name) is here. I was surprised and asked them send her up.

Lisa was a 5.5 in her looks. We talked in the living room. Pretty soon, we realized that we were compatible in every way. She did not know any English, but we talked nonstop. We really liked each other very much. I love intellectual talks with women. She told me that her business is just 4 blocks from my hotel. She wouldn’t drink cause she had to go for a consultation. Lisa left at 2 pm, and returned again at 4PM. I told her that I want to buy her a gift, but she said that she will think about it. However, she said that we could go for a meal. She took me to Aguajal (Av. San Borja Norte 886-San Borja, 226-2444). It served the criolla food. They also make their own brand name whiskey, that is only available there. Http://www.aguajal.com The restaurant does not have tourist oriented business. The food was just great and not that expensive either. Due to elections, no one was suppose to serve alcohol but the restaurant served us alcohol. We came back to Miraflores. She paid for the taxis, and I paid for the rest.

I wanted to bring Lisa to my room, but she wanted to go to a Karoke Place. We went to a place very close to Pizza Alley (right on the main road, across the park). Since alcohol was not allowed that night, we drank lots of juices. She was a good singer and sang so many romantic songs. We left the place at 11 PM, and she left for home. I came back to my hotel. I was in love with her. We had so much in common. Some how I fall in love with someone on my trips - an average of once per 3 trips. What a nasty habit!

Earlier, I had met Caffrey - an ISG Forum member who was staying in Maria Luisa on a floor down below. Both us entered the hotel at the same time. We talked for a while. He was waiting for a girl named Katty (another one, with the same name - 18 YO), that David had arranged for him. The girl came and she was a very young and so God damn hot. I came back to my room. Within a minute, Caffrey called and asked me to talk to the girl on the phone. He was not sure what she wanted to tell him. I could not understand either, but had a good laughter with her. They called me 3 times for translation. I asked the girl to come to my room after the deed. The girl said that she was tired and that she could come to see me some other time. I told her that I was tired too but she could sleep with me that night and we could have sex the next morning. She declined and left without seeing me.

I could not sleep and called Caffrey if he wanted to go out. He agreed. TR was closed for 3 nights due to the elections. We went to a disco located in the Pizza Alley. They were serving alcohol. Right away, we liked 2 girls. But before we could decide, some Italians picked them up. God Damn, these Italians! It has happened to me so many times, that they picked whoever I was about to pick. Anyone who has been to Fortaleza, Brazil knows what I am talking about. I have been there three times. These Italians were always faster than I ever was. Same thing happened here.

We left the bar and, in front of Tequila Rocks, were approached by a very old guy asking us if we wanted some girls. The old man said that, the night before, he saw Caffrey with 2 girls leaving TR to his hotel and he knew the names/description of both girls. He also had phone numbers of several other girls that work in TR. It was hard to get rid of him, but we did. I just had a wonderful time with Lisa, and Caffrey had a great time with Katty. Somehow, that night, I was more satisfied without sex. Besides, I wanted to keep lots of cum for Lisa for the next day. Right then, a SW stopped to see if we were interested in her. She was apparently on some kind of drug. We came empty handed to our hotel and retired to our rooms.

Sunday 11/19/06, Election Day: Lisa came to see me at 12:30 PM. I asked her to go out for a lunch. On our way to lunch, we stopped by in a super market and I bought her a track suit the she liked. Then, she told me that I should waste my money on food in this area. It is very expensive there. She took me to Metro and asked me to buy like 10 different food, including salad and a cheese cake. They weigh the food and put a price sticker at the bottom. The total bill was S35. In the hotel, she heated half of the food in the microwave, and saved the other half for dinner. By then, she did not even hold my hands once, even I tried doing that several times. I opened up the wine bottle and we had a great lunch.

She told me that, in Peru, every adult has to vote. She showed me her ID. Once a person votes, they put a hologram on the ID. Without that Hologram, the ID is invalid. They need this ID for everything. However, if a person does not want to vote, he/she can leave the ballot paper empty. Strange, but a fact!

After lunch, I took her to the bedroom and we started making out. She had very nice breasts. Just a perfect size to my liking! She was wet as if she did not have sex for ages. On each step that I took, she would moan "nooo", but would accommodate my advances. She sure was an expert in the bed. If I need to make love for hours, I stop a couple of minutes before ejaculating and take a cigarette break. She did the same to me. She was up to anything and everything. Within one hour, she asked me a question that what was my fantasy. We made love for hours this way and finally I came after 4 hours.

She was a tigress in the bed. She put several of her territory markings on my body, that even after a week I had to hide from my wife. On a few occasions, I had to move her to keep her from chewing my balls. Ouch! That is the one complain, I have of hers. She liked to do everything with condom on. Really, I do not mind that at all. As a matter of fact, I prefer it that way. Other than that, everything including rimming and anal sex was on the menu and to a perfection. Also, she did not mind the taste of lubricated condom. She would open up the condom without interruptions and would place in her mouth and then would roll it down on my dick. I would give her a perfect "10" in sex. We would watch the election results time to time. She was, originally, from the North of Peru. One of her cousins was a candidate in her home town.

It was 6pm, and she was suppose to be at her niece’s birthday at a McDonald. But, we missed it. We continued making out until 11 PM and that is when I came again. BTW, her cousin lost in the election. During half hour breaks, we would talk and get to know each other more and more. Somehow, we both knew that what the other was thinking and needing. I had a great time of my life and a true GFE.

We already had consumed a bottle of wine and a dozen beer. We were kind of drunk. She had to go to say Happy Birthday to her 10-years old niece. I asked her that if it was necessary for me to give her niece a gift. She said that it was not! She called her brother that she was coming along with a friend. They live in a decent neighborhood called "Pueblo Libre". Her brother and his family was very nice, but I could sense a tension in her brother to see her sister with me. It was already well after mid-night and we left for her place which was close by.

She was renting this nice 3 bedroom house (upper portion). She showed me her apartment, which was more than half way decently decorated. I met her maid and her dog. Her dog would love to get drops of beer that we were drinking. Pretty soon, her maid took the dog and left us alone. The maid closed the door behind. Her room was in a separate area attached to the kitchen. Lisa and I were drinking beer, while she was singing songs for me and making out in the living room area. However, she was reluctant to take me to her bed room. She wanted me to sleep separately in another room, next to her bedroom. I told her that either we would sleep together or I would leave. She said that she can’t sleep with me because her maid will find it out. Duhhhhh. I asked her to call me a cab, and that is what she did. Meanwhile her hands were in my pants and she made sure that I stay hard. The cab came arrived in one hour, and I left for my hotel. Arrived at my hotel at 4 AM.

Monday 11/20/06: Lisa arrived at my hotel at 12:45 PM (15 minutes earlier than she was suppose to). I was out shopping and she was busy with the hotel receptionists giving them free consultation. One receptionist followed us for a free consultation. Too bad that she did not want my consultation! I always wanted to practice my OB/GYN knowledge on someone.

We ate some left-over from the previous day. She had a consultation appointment for 4PM. She asked me to come along. We went to her office. She introduced me to her associate, who had insisted Lisa to meet me. She was a much prettier girl, but of the same age. She met a lawyer for the US, three years ago. He has arranged a visa for her and next month, she will be leaving for the US to be with him. We stayed there for 2 hours and then left.

I asked her to go to a nice restaurant. She took me to a very nice place nearby. (About 15 minutes walk, on the other side of the park). There were tons of local people there, even the food was expensive by the local standards. Food was just great. While walking back to the hotel, I asked her that I wanted to buy some silver jewelry from the park. She bargained for me and this seller won’t budge below S200. Lisa told me that I am wasting my money there, and that I could buy the same thing for S40-S50 in centro. We came back to the hotel.

I had an excellent session with her. She was trying her best to please me, and I was doing the same. I was expecting her to stay with me that night, so we talked a lot and then played Ochos Loco card game. As soon as she won S20, she told me that she was leaving. She said that she won more than enough for the "taxi money" and now she would leave. She said that she can not sleep at any place other than her room. I guess it was a pay-back time from the previous night. I insisted that she stay there but she left right then.

It was midnight. I walked to the pizza alley. Nothing to my liking there. After midnight, walking back to my hotel, I stopped by at Tequila Rocks. I met a hot girl there. She did not even ask me the usual questions to size me up. After a tequila each, I asked her to come with me. We did not discuss any money. Sorry, but I can not recall her name now. She had a nice body and gave me a nice session. She was not a sexpert, but still tried hard to please me. Also, no BBJ was on the menu there. I was very tired that night and just wanted to rest. As soon as I came, I asked for her shoulder bag, put S 220 as a regalo, and gave her a cheek good bye kiss. she did not count the money and left.

Tuesday 11/20/06: Lisa came to my room at 12:30PM and we went out to Metro. This time, she put even more food than what we did the last time. We came to hotel and ate lunch. We did not go out after that. She told me that she had cancelled all of her appointments for the day and for the day after. I thanked her for that. We spent a quality time together. We had sex over and over again. I would have to fake a couple of times. We drank 2 bottles of wine and lots of beer. After midnight, she slept on my shoulders. During the sleep, she would grind her ass to feel me if I could perform again. I did not react to that.

Wednesday 11/21/06: In the morning, she called the receptionist to order one breakfast that we shared. After that, we went to centro (cerca a mesa redonda) to buy some silver jewelry. I spent S200 and bought 5 times more jewelry. I asked Lisa if she liked something there. She liked a chain (S9). After paying, we came back to the hotel. We stayed all day in each others’ arms in the bed and just talked, while drinking occasionally. We ordered Pizza Hut Pizza delivery for lunch.

I did not do any session with her. Since I had to catch a flight that night to come back, I wanted to save myself for the last time - late in the afternoon. At 5PM, she got out the bed to take shower. She did not want a shower together. When she came back, she told me that she was leaving. I wanted to have sex with her for one last time, but she said that she had to go. She added that "women are different". She left at 6PM. For the first time, I went down with her to see her off. I saw her sitting in the taxi looking at me and waving at me until we could not see each other. It was very clear from the very first day that we may not be able to see each other again. I guess she wanted to show me that she was strong.

Since this was totally unexpected, I did not come back to my room. I went out to call my wife and kids to take my mind off the whole thing. After an hour, I came back to my room, took an hour nap, packed and left my hotel earlier than I wanted to. The hotel had a bill of S330 for the calls and drinks. I guess they charged me way over. But I was not in a mood to confront them. They offered a taxi for S35, but I declined. I came on the road and hailed a cab. The cab driver was a young guy and asked for S25 for the airport. I refused. The cab driver behind that cab was an old man. He offered S25 and I took that.

This (non-yellow) taxi driver took a minimum of twenty right and left turn. I knew that I was about to get robbed. I started talking to him. I told him that I work as a taxi driver and that I am from South East Asia. It was my fifth trip to Lima. I met a girl on the internet and I come here for her. He asked so many questions about taxi driving in my country. Then, he took a turn and waved at a beautiful apartment. He told me that it was his apartment. He said that his wife was standing in the balcony. I knew that it was a lie. Suddenly, he took a turn in a very dark street and then another turn to an even darker street. There was a police car with it's lights on. He took another turn to the main street. I asked him why was he not going straight? I told him angrily that I won’t allow that again. That is when, I saw a sign to the airport. I firmly told him to go straight. He did. And, finally I was at the airport. In my college years, I drove yellow cab in New York City for 4 years. During that job, I got robbed several times. Based on that experience, my instinct was telling me that he was trying to find a right place to rob me. I was lucky to came out of it safely. I could be wrong though! Guess, I will never find it out either!

Flight from Lima was on schedule, and I arrived to my city in the State of New York at 4 PM, the next day. Overall the trip was just superb! I did not expect much, but it came out great. I made some mistakes that I will not repeat again. But, based on my prior experience, I will make a different set of mistakes again. I guess, that is what travel is all about! I SHALL be back to Lima soon!

Conclusion: If I have to do it all over again, I will not make much effort to meet non-pro girls off the net. If I get to meet someone who is 18-20 and extremely pretty, then I will meet her. Otherwise, I will pass on that. I can still meet older or married girls here in my hometown. Besides, too many unknowns with a non-pro. Having said that, I found it so easy to find a non/semi-pro in Lima. The next time, I will ask David to help me out even more. I will also sample more pros from the places mentioned in this section of ISG. The newspaper ads can always be handy. If they do not show up, TR is just one block away.

I was kind of upset because Lisa has responded only twice so far. As usual, the emails are just two line ones. Yesterday, I stumbled on a LimaBusy’s report. His experience with his first encounter with a Peruana sounds similar. I guess, this is a normal Peruana behavior.

Also, I will try to bid for Hotel Las Americas ($50/night)or Marriott ($75/night). I may get successful! If not, I will book at the Hotel Maria Luisa, a junior suit (S80/night). Their check-in time is 7 AM. In other hotels, it is normally at noon. Since my flight would arrive early in the morning, an early check-in will be an advantage to me. Besides Maria Luisa’s location is just superb!

I will rent a cell phone from the airport to avoid having hotel charge me S2/cell phone call and S1/regular call. I guess, they charge you even if you do not get connected. I will also ask them on the very first day to take their stuff out of the fridge.

Even what happened to me in my last taxi trip, I still think that Lima is a very safe city. When alone, I will certainly travel in a yellow taxi. I was told again and again that people do not get robbed by the taxi drivers, if traveling in pair.

Finally, thanks to all of those who write on this section of the forum. My trip was very good. I had so many options available all the times. Without their contribution, my trip could not have been successful. Special thanks to David33, LimaBusy, and TheCat.

Lima Busy
12-01-06, 01:59
Jose,
Very nice report! I felt like I was in Lima with you(oh, right I live here). I had to read it fast but will reread it tomorrow. I for one hope David33 posts those pics!
congrats,
LB

Polvo
12-01-06, 03:34
Are you kidding me? Las time I banged an older MILF was in Colombia 3 months ago......

Screwed Up

I thought that would bring you up for air!!! Gym is not a bad idea - not that you need it - but it is also a great pick up point. Make sure your fire hose is hanging out your shorts and you will be away!

Suerte!

Polvo

Lima Busy
12-01-06, 16:48
And I met this 18yo tight bodied surfer girl last week. Lima Busy ran into us at Parque Kennedy last Sunday.
Looking at these girls' bodies makes me wanna spend more time in the gym...


Definetely "tight"!
Hey, She passed me her number when you and Carlos weren't looking but I lost it. Be a friend and PM it to me!

LB

Elberto
12-04-06, 22:22
As I read through all the threads in the Peru section of ISG I cut and pasted everything I thought was useful or interesting and have saved it in a 33 page Microsoft Word document.

It is a work in progress and I have not edited it or put it in any sort of order, but if anyone is planning a trip to Peru I'd be happy to share. Just send me a PM and I'll email you the latest version.

Thanks to all the posters for the info, and thanks to Jackson for the forum.

Member #3437
12-06-06, 17:50
As I read through all the threads in the Peru section of ISG I cut and pasted everything I thought was useful or interesting and have saved it in a 33 page Microsoft Word document.

It is a work in progress and I have not edited it or put it in any sort of order, but if anyone is planning a trip to Peru I'd be happy to share. Just send me a PM and I'll email you the latest version.

Thanks to all the posters for the info, and thanks to Jackson for the forum.I just re-upped my subscription, but cannot PM until tomorrow. Could you please go ahead and email this to me?

Thanks.

Anyone going to be in Lima during January let me know.

Elberto
12-07-06, 02:42
I just re-upped my subscription, but cannot PM until tomorrow. Could you please go ahead and email this to me? Thanks.


Westfla, I would send it but I don't have your email address and Jackson doesn't allow addresses in public posts. I check the site several times a day so it will be a quick turnaround when I get your message.

My offer for the file has been pretty popular, but for folks wanting it please make sure to send your email address in the PM so I can get it to you as soon as possible.

Member #3437
12-07-06, 18:09
Westfla, I would send it but I don't have your email address and Jackson doesn't allow addresses in public posts. I check the site several times a day so it will be a quick turnaround when I get your message.

My offer for the file has been pretty popular, but for folks wanting it please make sure to send your email address in the PM so I can get it to you as soon as possible.Pm Sent. My subscription is back up and running. Again, anyone going to Lima In January is encouraged to Pm me or post here.

Lima Busy
12-08-06, 00:36
Polvo,
Remember yesterday! well 'Bama is on hi 5 again right now and has got a chica posing in a school girl uniform for him. he is going to shoot a photo over to me to upload now.

Trying to get her to strip now!
LB

Polvo
12-08-06, 02:59
......Trying to get her to strip now!
LB

Goddammit. I miss all the fun. She looks as though she could kick 'Bama's ass though! Can we run a video feed through the forum??

Polvo

Antifreeze
12-08-06, 21:57
Hi everyone,

After a long, long 5 days drive from Colombia to Peru, I have just arrived to my new playground. I am here in Lima with my dear friend Screwed Up that is as screwed up as ever.

Here's what happened.

I used to live in Cali for 4 years. I ended up waking-up to the fact that the wife I had was a total *****. That is good enough for the USA, but in Colombia, with all the competition around, that doesn't fly for long. So, I ended up giving her the divorce that she deserved and went on. The hard thing was obviously the 2 kids that were in the middle. Anyhow, a failed mariage doesn't have to mean that the divorce has to fail. Well, it ended-up that the ex-to-be is so fucked-up in her head that she started to threat me and my surroundings. I had met my dear Edith that is most probably the best of Colombia, and she got some of my ex-wife's bad behavior.

In the process, to have some breathing room, I moved from Cali to Pereira in Colombia. Having a 3 hour drive between I and the ex-wife may help in getting a little less bullshit from her. That went well for 6 months. Then the threats and the criminal lawsuits against me started coming again. The justice system in Colombia is just a total mess. Could you believe that I had a criminal lawsuit against me because I sent my own daughter to the zoo with a friend (and came back the day after)? Well, if I can't be a dad with my daughter in that crazy country without risking jail time, then I am getting the Hell out of this nut country. I then brought my 2 kids to her mother, wish them all good life (kiss to the kids, and a slap in the face to the ex-wife), and then had to leave Colombia most probably forever with Edith (I hope).

We left Cali on a Saturday. I drive a 1974 Jeep Land-cruiser. Old car that often plays tricks on me. But the drive is only 3000 km or so, and having driven from Florida to Seatle twice plus through Canada a couple of times, what could go wrong?

Anyhow, on Saturdayit happened. The car breaks down in the Cauca. For those of you that do not know the Cauca, well it's FARC country. When you meet someone, you don't know who he is and how your interaction is going to end. The trouble was with the fuel pump. It happened at about 30-40 minutes south of Popayan. The meeting lotery ended up being good. We met good people that ended up helping us through this ordeal. It ended up being a 6 hour stall, and we were then back on the road.

Day one ended up in Pasto Colombia. Then comes day 2. We go to Ipiales to the Colombian border. I go through the border without an hitch. For Edith (a Colombian citizen) that is not the same. She needs a report from the DAS about her judicial status, and on a Sunday, the banks are not opened to make the deposit of their bribe money. Result: we need to wait until the next day in order to go through this bureaucracy. How beautiful is that? Anyhow, let's cut our losses and go to the hotel and work on a little antifreeze in the meantime.

The next day is the one. I go at the bank and make the deposit of the bribe money while she has her picture taken. All done within an hour. Then, we go through the Colombia border and the Ecuador border. The car brought some issues. I had my paperwork in order to go through borders, but did not think of Ecuador (more on that later). Customs at Ecuador's border did not appear to be an issue. So, we started our long journey south. We got stopped by police about 4 times in the first 200 km. After that, there was a custom check-point. I felt like it was going to be just another one of these checks and we're back on our way. They gave me shit about the fact that I needed a certificate of importation because I am more than 200 km into Ecuador and that a Colombian car can enter in Colombia but only until a certain point without that certificate. Bullshit, total bullshit.... We told people at customs at the border that we were heading to Peru. If they did not provide us with that certificate, then they have to be equivalently unprofessional and overlook it now. The agent tells me to go back at the border and ask for the report. I tell him that I will make the U-turn and do so. I get in the car, and kept driving while ignoring his fucking advice.

We drive south up to Quito. Going through a city is always a mess since a freeway melts down to normal streets (without signs) and you need to find your way through that mess to find the freeway again on the other end of the city. In the process of doing so, we are told that the pan-american freeway is closed today. That was odd. And what other road may we take to go south? None we are told. I keep on driving while ignoring that alarming input. Indeed, I get into a road block that will confirm my worst fears. What happened? I ask the cop. Was there an landslide, or something? No, there is a unlawful road-block to protest against the state of the road and they ask for 30 million dollars to fix the road. Why should I care, send the fucking army and show them who's the boss!!!! No, not in Ecuador. It was already closed for 2 days, and the protest made sure to close all exits south. We drove back to Quito and got an hotel to spend the night, maybe the day after it will open.

Go to an hotel, spend $24 USD for the room, and relax a bit after a stressfull day. Edith stays in the room while I go and fetch for some Internet. While I come back to the room, she tells me that she hitches everywhere. Good news: there are fleas in the room. The harm was already done, we switch bed but that wouldn't fix anything anyhow.

The morning after, I ask if the protest is done. No. So, I tell my darling that we'll have to drive north and west to go around that mess. It ended up being a 600 km little detour through the Ecuador rain forest. We drove almost to the Ecuador-Peru border that same day (about 15 hours drive) without seeing anymore customs. The following day was reserved for another border. Get the hell out of Ecuador and into Peru. I was frightened about the car and the custom paper to make Ecuador happy, but that's the aventure. We get to the border. What a mess it is at that border!!! First Ecuador's migration. No problem. Then, a couple of miles down the road comes the Peru border. I first stop to get some Soles (Peru's currency) on the street. Exchange $70 USD to Soles. Then an Ecuador custom agent gets to my window and asks me for my paperwork. I answer hiw with a smile. I look at Edith and tell her to buckle up and start driving the last 20 meters to Peru as if I did not hear him at all. She tells me that I am crazy! She may be right. Anyhow, that ended up being a good move since it was the end of it. Then comes Peru's custom agent. We push some more paperwork without problem (at least until now).

Then comes the Peru long drive. Roads in Peru are in excellent shape. Way better than Colombia and Ecuador. Other than the Ecuador fleas eating us alive, the trip was excellent. Half way into Peru, we stopped in a restaurant and I ask the guy to prepare a pool of water to drown the little bastards. I jump into the bucket with all my clothes and drowned them as expected and that was also the end of it for them.

Quite a trip. I am happy to be in Lima, but somewhat fearful towards that next chapter in my life. C'est la vie! This is adventure or not????

Saludos

Antifreeze with his lovely Edith (the best of Colombia) by his side.

Polvo
12-08-06, 22:30
Hi everyone,

....... I tell him that I will make the U-turn and do so. I get in the car, and kept driving while ignoring his fucking advice..............I answer hiw with a smile. I look at Edith and tell her to buckle up and start driving the last 20 meters to Peru as if I did not hear him at all. ...........This is adventure or not????



Who Dares Wins, Antifreeze. Outrageous journey and great narrative! Hope to see you in Z with LB and Screwed Up.

Polvo

Member #4351
12-09-06, 16:44
I think that you will find things easier here in Peru. Screwed Up, L.B. and myself amongst others will certainly be able to give you advice and help you out if you get into any situations.

I had a feeling that your trip was going to be somewhat challenging. Congratulations on making it to Peru.

Lima Busy
12-09-06, 18:19
I think that you will find things easier here in Peru. Screwed Up, L.B. and myself amongst others will certainly be able to give you advice and help you out if you get into any situations.

I had a feeling that your trip was going to be somewhat challenging. Congratulations on making it to Peru.
Congrats on your escape to Peru! Let me know if you need a parking space for that Monster!

The wife (best of peru) has also offered to help out Edith in her transition. Tell screwed up to get off his ass and introduce you around town!

Suerte
LB

Member #4351
12-09-06, 19:04
I suggest a lunch or lonche next week. Since you are the social butterfly L.B., you can organize it.

Lima Busy
12-10-06, 01:56
I suggest a lunch or lonche next week. Since you are the social butterfly L.B., you can organize it.
Consider it done, just waiting on a few guy's inputs as to Wed/Thur and the hour/s.

BTW, this is open to lurkers/non ISG'r and so forth! If you are in town fell free to drop by.

FlyingAce, I imagine Alabama (David) from your Thursday group will be there. PM if it is a problem and I will not mention it to him!

RSVP: for specifics!

LB

XXL
12-10-06, 12:47
I would like to know whether what happened to a fellow monger in Lima is high-risk or low risk :

Brought two girls from one of the mid-range bars (Peppers, I think) to a rather high-end motel. Ordered whisky. Without asking first, girls picked up the phone and ordered coke - snortable kind, not the drinkable kind. The chap that brought the blow seemed to be somehow attached to the motel for he showed up in no time.

Is this part of regular motel room service? What about this getting monitored on close-circuit video? To the girls it seemed the most natural thing in the world.

Madan99
12-10-06, 17:29
Hi Guys,

I heard about the place called Trocadera in Lima. Can someone give detailed information about and the address along with in relation to Mirafloris.

Thank you very much in anticipation,

Sincerely

Mahku
12-10-06, 18:42
I spent about 2 weeks here, sandwiched around a trip to Cusco and Machu Picchu.

The majority of time was spent with online girls, with some limited dabbling in pros and picking up non-pros in bars.

I came up from Buenos Aires on my RTW ticket so I can´t say much about plane fares.

Since there wasn´t a gym at Hotel Colon I went for a workout at Golds Gym, on Benavides in front of Holiday Inn and just down from Las Americas. It cost $10 for a one day membership. Of course the place is fully equipped. The only disappointmenet was the lack of eye candy when I was there.

Most of the girls I spent time with were from online chat sites, mostly Latin American Cupid plus one from Cherry Blossoms. The results here followed a general half and half rule. Half of the girls initially contacted responded. Half of those ended up giving some bedroom action. In one case I ended up with the younger sister of one of these girls. After touring the centro we ended up at her house and I met the whole family. The girl that I originally chatted with turned out to be shy and withdrawn. I got the number of her sister and it was all go from there. I also visited another chat friend´s family in the San Roque area so these contacts were a good way of seeing different parts of town, getting guided tours, meeting people and seeing how they live.

All of the girls were either students or working, sometimes both. So it was easy to avoid the ´hanging around´syndrome. After a nice time together they had to go off to work or class or get some sleep before an early morning start. Even the girls who weren´t up for anything physical were good company.

Miraflores is good for romantic dating spots. Larcomar with it´s ocean views is hard to beat. There´s also the top floor restaurant of the Hotel Las Americas. During the day girls liked to go to Parque Kennedy and sit together on the benches.

I did make it into Tequila Rocks 3 times. The selling pressure was pretty mild. Sometimes a girl (usually unattractive) would come and sit with me uninvited but after a short chat she would pick up on my lack of interest and move on. Once I sat for a while with a girl I thought was the hottest in the bar. But she wanted 400 and wouldn´t budge at all. The only girl I took out from here was Marilu. She had the librarian look going, wearing glasses and dressed like a normal girl. After a chat and dropping by another bar she agreed to go with me for 250. Back in the room after getting the glasses off she turned into a wildcat and kept me up most of the night before she had to go off to an early class.

The bar where I picked up a nonpro is called Cubata. It´s a small bar that plays salsa and merengue music, located just off Larco on San Martin, next to a Japanese restaurant. The owner is friendly and outgoing and helps to introduce you to people (including hotties) that are sitting around. This was to prove a valuable service that got me together with Sara. She´s about 5 foot 5 and 115 pounds, curvy but tight. She was in a group of 3 so she didn´t mind leaving the other 2 on their own. We went on to a very touchy feely experience back in my room. This was my second to last night in Lima, and she was probably the best girl looks wise of my time here, so I was a bit disappointed on that score. This bar is a fun hangout even apart from chasing tail. A number of expats and other interesting types come here and are interesting to chat with.

There are other bars like this on San Martin, including one called Phuket just across the street. But I think the gregarious owner is what really made the difference at Cubata.

I also went to Etheria after seeing Screwed Up´s posts. Unfortunately the night I went a private party was just breaking up. They let me in but there weren´t many girls there since the party had kept outsiders out for most of the night. It´s also worth mentioning that Wednesdays are ladies´ nights here and I noticed that Screwed Up´s posts have been on Wednesdays.

I didn´t find much of interest in Pizza Alley except dinner and drinks.

Lots of prime trim grazes in Parque Kennedy during the day. It could be worth hanging out there and chatting them up. And there are always the malls....

It was my pleasure to meet Lima Busy and some other mongers in Cafe Z. And I also caught up with Senator Dashing Don in his swishy surroundings in the Marriott. This was on one of the ´dry´election nights so we got some drinking in that otherwise would have been hard to come by.

Caffrey
12-11-06, 01:00
Ok guys. Finally I made my first trip to Lima. For mongering (AA freq 35k miles) came handy to visit Lima and Medellin. So I split a week in each location to savor the local talent. I missed my connecting flight from miami and was put on the evening flight next day that arrived around 8pm in lima. Since my spanish was very limited I was worried arriving at night, however I was impressed by the airport facilities at that time. The information booth arranged a taxi to my hotel maria luisa. Since I had booked junior suite S85 my check in went smooth. I still do not understand the mobile security lockers they provide which you carry to the room. Glad I booked the junior suite it was adequate, quiet and the large mirror in the bedroom is a nice touch for viewing while you are with chicas. They also have an internet ready computer in the lobby. I was doing some research on wsg and perutops so that I do not waste time during my short saty. ML is only few minutes from the Tequila rocks and also provide flyers for free entry and 1 free drink. I picked one of those and went there. To the contrary on this board I found few 9's to my liking and there was no pressure from the girls. Then I met this blonde haired ashley and started asking out to the hotel. Her friend came to rescue in translating. Off we went to hotel and had a great gfe. I was impressed that it all happened without prior discussions. We did 2 times and both were very passionate. She left her cell number to call her again. Since I like variety did not contact her. Because of the elections I noted all the top tier clubs were closed. So I didn't experience any of these clubs (69, emmanuelle, scarletts). I also met Jose (wsg member) a cool guy during my stay here who was on an expedition with non pro lists. Again because of my spanish I relied on this forum and called katya and had another wonderful time. She didn't allow me to take pictures. I think her picture is posted here in the forum. I want to thank personally David_33 for arranging a superb model christina, a definite 10 in looks and service and also a teenager who claims she is 18. Both showed so much enthusiasm in satisfying me. The teenager was so rapid spanish speaker I have to contact jose couple of times for help. For first time visitors like me I would recommend contacting David33 for non-pro arrangments to avoid any disappointments. I couldn't meet him but he was nice enough to contact me before and the following day to ensure everything worked out fine. Also I made a side trip to machu pichu during my visit. It is a must see for all lima visitors. The flight to cusco was 50us (this is direct from lan.com website last minute deals section). Booked the vistadome train (peru rail.com) to aqua caliente. Make sure to get the left side window for breathtaking views. At cusco I stayed at the ninos, walking distance to the plaza. The night life is very converged at cusco. They all are within a block in the plaza. I had a nice dinner at the los rommeos which included the peru cultural show. After a nice dinner (pisca sour/ceviche) I went to the ukkukus club as recommeded by the restaurant waiter. The afro live band show was entertaining. There were a lot of local girls who I feel are available to hang out if you stay there for few days. Also the doorman offered to get me a cute chica for S150 but did not participate, since I was looking for Medellin adventure (will post in Medellin section). I would recommend visiting brasillatatica during your day time escapades to see the peru cultural shows. Overall I felt safe while in lima and definitely make more visits in the future.

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EDITOR'S NOTE II: Due to a forum software problem, this report was not visible on the day it was originally posted last week. Nevertheless, it's clearly a valuable report, so I have reposted it today to give it the prominence it deserves.

Aurab
12-11-06, 13:58
By mistake I put this report in Cusco Section yesterday. I am posting it here again. I apologize for the double post.

I reported my disappointing experience with the non pros in this section before. Now for the pros.

This was my first trip to Lima, although not the first time in South America. I have been to Brazil few times. Whereever I went, I like to enjoy the local culture, sightseeing and cultural shows etc. These aspects of my trip are as important as the mongering. So if I find a nice woman who knows the city and not too expensive, I tend to keep them as my guide. It worked well for me in Brazil for couple of times. I was trying to do the same with non pros in Lima with disastrous consequences. I gave it another try with the pros nonetheless.

I am 50+ years old and of Asian descent. I have been mistakenly identified as a Thai. In my experience, your skin color matters. Whereever I went, whether in Asia, Australia, Europe or South America, local people invariably assume that I don't have money. So you get the service accordingly. On the plus side, probably I will not be a preferred target for mugging and I can haggle a little more with the chicas for a better price!!!

In the first instance, I have only one Saturday night for mongering in Lima. After I said good bye to my non pro companion around 10 pm, I headed straight to Parque Kennedy area. Foremost, "Tequila" was in my mind. It was only few minutes walk from my hotel. I read in this board that action in "Tequila" starts late. So leisurely, I took a walk around the Parque Kennedy, had a coffee, watch the scene to kill time. Then I thought I should go to check the famous Pizza Alley, because I read so much about it. At the entrance, a guy was handing some sort of leaflets for a strip club. Out of curiosity I took one, then started slowly towards "Tequila". One girl came from behind and said "Hola". I stopped and started talking with the girl with my rudimentary knowledge of Spanish. She did not speak English at all.Well, it did not take that long to strike a deal. She was no more than 23 years old. The deal was: 200 soles for the night, she would leave my hotel at 9 am in the morning and a breakfast on me if she wanted to, two shots on goal, 100 soles at night and other 100 in the morning. I volunteered that I don't like to do anything uncovered and no anal. She seemed pleased and agreed. She does not do DFK. I agreed. As we were walking towards my hotel, I saw a nice little bar. We went in there, had beer. Then she said she would like eat something and paid for it reluctantly. Not much though. No hassle at the front desk at the hotel. We went to my room. The moment she saw the Jacuzzi, she went straight to it and started filling it up. She jumped into it. Of course, I joined her too. We had fun there. In the meantime she told me that she has a three month old boy and she is lactating. I did not understand that part at that time because of my poor Spanish, it became clear to me in the Jacuzzi. She just squirted some milk from her breast on my face!! One breast was squirting milk when she squeezes the other one! Wow!1 Brand new experience for me. Never saw that before. Being ignorant about the risk of breast milk, I did not suck her breast, but fondling those was fun though! When she came out of the Jacuzzi she wanted to be paid 100 soles which I did. Then she received a phone call, I did not understand what she was talking about. We did our deed. She was just average, nothing to write home about. She was not into it. About half an hour later, she received another call. She said she has to go to the hospital, because her baby was taken there (that was an emotional convincing excuse bs, I did not buy it though). Needless to say I was not very pleased. Anyway I let her go. She left her number promising better service next time. But I never called. So basically, 100 soles for one shot and two hours of her time.

In the second instance, I had 10 nights for mongering. I was busy during daytime with my Spanish classes, but I was free from about 8 pm. On the first Saturday night, I went to "Tequila" about 11:30 pm, sat in one corner on the right hand side when you go in, drank my beer slowly. After an hour or so I invited a girl to sit with me. I bought one beer for her and started negotiation immediately. She started at 300 soles for the night. I wanted her to stay till 9 am in the morning for 250 soles. She was willing to stay till 7am for that amount. Anyway our negotiation broke down. She left. Another girl was watching our negotiation from another table. When she realized that our negotiation broke down, she came and sat with me. Before I bought any beer for her, I wanted the negotiation done. We agreed on the same deal I offered to the other girl. So we went to my hotel. We did our business. Sex was average. Light kissing. Nothing special. Early morning at 7, she wake me up and she said she looks after an elderly lady, she had to be in her house by 8. Anyway, I did not argue with her and did our business and let her go.

I realized that these are battle hardened pro. They will con you anyway they can think of. But without realizing it they missed an employment opportunity for 9/10 days with good pay!

I took Sunday off, no mongering nothing, just lots of European soccer on TV. Monday night around 9 after my supper, I walked into a local bar for a drink. It was only two blocks from my hotel. I sat on those bar stools, trying to practise my Spanish with this knockout woman bar tender. I was thinking to call my taxi driver whom I knew for the last few days ( going back and forth from my host family to the Spanish school). He told me he can show me good times in Lima. There were only few people in the bar. Suddenly this tall bleach blond with a low cut dress walked in. She would be in her mid thirties, my specialty!! (Later she told me she was 32). Obviously She and the bar tender knew each other. Bar tender introduced me to that woman. Her name was Jessica. My Spanish was better than her English. But we could communicate well. I volunteered to buy her a drink. We started talking. I found out that she has a three year old son, the father of the boy took off long time ago. She used to work for a Casino. Now she does not have a job, she needs money. She was quite friendly. I liked her disposition in general. I told her what I have in mind. No money upfront. But she cannot stay for the whole night. She could stay till 3 am because she has to go home by that time for her son. Price: 200 soles and she made clear to me that she does not do anal. I agreed. We took off from the bar. She wanted to eat something, went to a restaurant I paid for it, not too expensive though. What strike me most was that the sandwich she could not finish she bagged it to take home for her son. We went back to my hotel. I took the money from my pocket and showed it to her and put it back into my pocket. I said she would get the money before she goes home. Wow! What a sex! I did not have such good sex for a long time! Best part was she was into it. We were resting after our deed, I hand her the money. She thanked me so many times for the money I paid her. She said she did not have any money even to buy food. She did not work for three weeks. I really felt sad for her. Then I offered her my long term deal which is: everyday for 8 nights ( except last Monday of my trip 3 to 6pm) 6 to 3pm, good food, good times around town, how much? I was surprised at her asking price: US$50 for every night, paid at the end of the night. I thought that was low. I was happy to take the offer. I told her to dress modestly, so we did not draw undue attention when we go to a club or a restaurant.

Tuesday evening she showed up at my hotel right on time. She jumped on me the moment the door was closed, not the other way around! What a pleasant surprise! Needless to say I was so pleased with her services. Over the week and weekends we went to cultural shows, salsa dance clubs, for dancing, to ordinary restaurants where tourists normally do not eat. We did something every evening.

She showed up in my hotel every evening right on the dot. Her son's birthday was one Friday. I gave her extra US$20 on Thursday night to buy a gift for her son. Wow, what a reaction I got. she chocked up! She kept on thanking me. At the end of every evening meal she asked me if she could order for a desert which she was not going to eat, but take home for her son. I always happily obliged. Next evening she would tell me how much her son enjoyed that desert. Being a parent myself, I realized your children come first.

Jessica made my trip to Lima worthwhile. I am not into young women nor going from club to club. I like MILF. At my age, I enjoy the company of a beautiful woman as much as sex. Jessica had all the qualities of a pro to make an old man like me happy. I treated her with respect and generosity, she reciprocated. If I go back to Lima next year, probably she will be my guide again.

Happy mongering.

John Hollander
12-11-06, 14:17
A friend of mine sent the following report to me. Could someone verify this incident?

Thanks,

John from Holland

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"The incident happened to me several days ago, but I will only write about it now, that I have left Peru. I was travelling in Lima shortly after dusk. I attended a meal at the apartment of a friend, and was walking back to my rental car. I know that this part of Lima is not the safest after dark, but I have been there before at this same hour, and while there is some menace, I have never been accosted. I have travelled in Peru before, so I am not a virgin to security precautions and the street dangers of Lima. I was not making ignorant moves, or wearing flashy items. I was modest and walked with confidence."

"The distance to my car was perhaps 100 metres from my friend's apartment. The area was not very populated. It was mostly empty of pedestrians. After I began to walk, I noticed that two pirańitas (street children) were following me. I walked briskly to avoid them. It is very sad to see these children, but it is best not to have dealings with them, because many are drugged or seek to rob. At 20 metres or so from my car, one of the children made a whistle noise, and four teenagers emerged from an alley. They approached me from the front, with the two children approaching from the back. I moved laterally away from all of them, but they converged toward me."

"I understood this was robbery. And it was. One of the teens demanded my wallet, so I produced it without struggle. Then he demanded my shoes, which is the location of some extra money I had stored. I began to comply when another teen withdrew a pistol from his waistband and struck me with it."

"This is where the robbery became terrible and also tragic, because I panicked. When I am in Lima, I carry a semi-automatic pistol. Without a thought, I swept the pistol into my palm and began firing before I even gained my target. I fired all 15 rounds into the crowd of children and teens. I did not have time to see the results, just several teens laying on the ground, because I broke into a panic sprint to my car. I jumped in the car then drove away fast. I did not return. I did not go to the police. I left the neighborhood, and then I left the country."

"I can confess this tragedy now because I am not in Peru. The action was for self defense. But I feel terrible. I just want travellers to know that there is nothing to gain in carrying a pistol, just a lot of nightmares and tragedies. I am sad for Lima because it is a city tearing apart with crime. I hope my tragedy can be a warning for others."

Member #4351
12-11-06, 15:48
The only risk of breast milk is that you may get addicted to it.

Member #4351
12-11-06, 16:06
XXL, to answer your question. A Peruvian only gets busted if they are selling or have possesion of amounts which are considered more than a reasonable quantity for personal use. That is the law and I suppose that it also applies to foreigners. So the short answer is that even if captured on CCTV, if the amounts are not large...no problem.

John Sperm
12-11-06, 17:51
I am glad to read that most of you had a pleasant experience in Lima, Lima is constantly changing maybe in 5 or 6 years next time the Mayor elections come around I can run too.. Well as I sit here I am planning my next trip, hopefully I will get to meet some of you since I been to Lima 4 times already and I have not received a phone call from anyone... wait someone did call but we did not meet.. I will be arriving at mid-march hopefully LB will get me the mother-daugther deal ..

Member #4351
12-11-06, 17:56
John Hollander,

If this is a true story, (which the difficulty of bringing a gun on a plane and through customs to Lima makes me doubt), you should receive a medal IMHO. I hope you hit 15 of them.

Lima Busy
12-11-06, 18:10
A friend of mine sent the following report to me. Could someone verify this incident?

Thanks,

John from Holland

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"The incident happened to me several days ago, but I will only write about it now, that I have left Peru. I was travelling in Lima shortly after dusk. I attended a meal at the apartment of a friend, and was walking back to my rental car. I know that this part of Lima is not the safest after dark, but I have been there before at this same hour, and while there is some menace, I have never been accosted. I have travelled in Peru before, so I am not a virgin to security precautions and the street dangers of Lima. I was not making ignorant moves, or wearing flashy items. I was modest and walked with confidence."

"The distance to my car was perhaps 100 metres from my friend's apartment. The area was not very populated. It was mostly empty of pedestrians. After I began to walk, I noticed that two pirańitas (street children) were following me. I walked briskly to avoid them. It is very sad to see these children, but it is best not to have dealings with them, because many are drugged or seek to rob. At 20 metres or so from my car, one of the children made a whistle noise, and four teenagers emerged from an alley. They approached me from the front, with the two children approaching from the back. I moved laterally away from all of them, but they converged toward me."

"I understood this was robbery. And it was. One of the teens demanded my wallet, so I produced it without struggle. Then he demanded my shoes, which is the location of some extra money I had stored. I began to comply when another teen withdrew a pistol from his waistband and struck me with it."

"This is where the robbery became terrible and also tragic, because I panicked. When I am in Lima, I carry a semi-automatic pistol. Without a thought, I swept the pistol into my palm and began firing before I even gained my target. I fired all 15 rounds into the crowd of children and teens. I did not have time to see the results, just several teens laying on the ground, because I broke into a panic sprint to my car. I jumped in the car then drove away fast. I did not return. I did not go to the police. I left the neighborhood, and then I left the country."

"I can confess this tragedy now because I am not in Peru. The action was for self defense. But I feel terrible. I just want travellers to know that there is nothing to gain in carrying a pistol, just a lot of nightmares and tragedies. I am sad for Lima because it is a city tearing apart with crime. I hope my tragedy can be a warning for others."
There has been alot of crime recently in Lima and just the other day I was robbed, here are the details!

Last Monday I went to the bank in Jockey Plaza to make my bi-weekly cash withdrawal of S/.500. We have all seen the "car wash" guys with there yellow wagons cleaning the cars and as I was getting into my car two young girls wearing yellow shirts came over and started cleaning my windows. When they finished I offered them each S/.1 but they refused and asked me to drive them to the Polo shopping center. After getting in the backseat they started to disrobe and kiss each other. They invited me to join them in the back and being curious I joined them. Afterwards I dropped them off and went home. It was only then that I realized I was missing S/.500. I was not sure if I lost the money or if one of them took it when I had my pants off? I went back to the bank again on Wed & Fri and both times they managed to get the money without me noticing! I am planning to go to the bank again this afternoon but will probably only withdraw S/.200!

LB

VoodooMan
12-12-06, 01:45
LB, I'm not sure if your serious about this terrible crime you've experienced, or just being your usual humorous sarcastic self. :-) Please confirm.

John, I, like David, find your friends story a little hard to believe. I regularly watch the news, wouldn't you think a mass shooting of young kids would make the nightly news?

I know crime is rising in Lima, but i think if you stay in the right neighborhoods, and take the necessary precautions (which includes NOT jumping in the back seat of your car to engage in risky activities with 2 young horny bisexual girls) the chances of being a victim of crime is pretty low. I lived in Chorrillos when i first came to Lima, and I can tell you there are parts there that scared the crap out of me. And im from Brooklyn, NY, and ive been in the ghettos there plenty of times. I was lucky not to have any major problems. Now i live in Miraflores, and knock on wood, i have had no problems other than shemales trying to grab my ass and private parts. Miraflores is a very tourist friendly area, and feel that its very safe. That beign said, just keep your eyes out, dont dress too flashy, and stay away from those areas that not even peruvians dare to venture into. (Unless your going to Trocadero, then i say Go For IT !!)

Lima Busy
12-12-06, 18:28
[QUOTE=Voodooman]LB, I'm not sure if your serious about this terrible crime you've experienced, or just being your usual humorous sarcastic self. :-) Please confirm.

Voodooman,
Did not mean to cause alarm about increasing crime, It turns out the girls were legit and it was my wife who was taking the money!

Chorillos, is really a mixed bag as I have family and friends there. I love the "Malecon" and the first 6 blocks of the main drag as well as "la encantada" & "Las Brisas". These areas are secure condominum complexes on the ocean with their own golf course. I have a friend who built a beautiful house there for 90k. Building lots are 12k and 30k respectivly for 300 meters. On the other hand I went to another buddies apartment for Thanksgiving in "los Cedros" and it looked and felt like Bed-Stuy.

You mentioned "shemales" in Miraflores and I thought I was the only one who noticed! I was sitting with a few mongers the other night at "Churrasco" in front of Pizza street and was amazed at the sheer numbers of "post-op" hotties!

Hope you can make it tomorrow to "hooters".
LB

Polvo
12-12-06, 18:57
John Hollander,

If this is a true story, (which the difficulty of bringing a gun on a plane and through customs to Lima makes me doubt), you should receive a medal IMHO. I hope you hit 15 of them.

No, the "friend" should receive training. In a hot situation he descends to amateur level indiscriminate shooting. Those little metal fragments have to end up somewhere even if it is 200 metres down the street in some poor mamasan's ass.

15 rounds should equal 7 dead and one left for emergencies. This guy is dangerous, reckless, untrained and a fucking idiot.

I, like the rest, find the story stretches the bounds of my belief. Hopefully it is a simple lie.

Polvo

Volpone
12-12-06, 21:55
It's my second time in Lima. I am just arrived.
I tried to go to a place I used to go a few times 2 years ago and nobody answers at the door.
The place is at cuadra1 de Diez Canseco, 4 piso, apart. 403. Well it seems to be closed.

Does someone knows a similar place to get a handjob in Miraflores or San Isidro?

On this forum I found Hotel Los Andes Spa at Angamos Oeste 833. I will surely go there this week or next.
Now I am busy to date normal girls by internet. Perhpas David33 is right, that I should date girls in restaurants or shopping centre, but it seems to me, that they don't care of foreigners, especially in Miraflores or San Isidro.

Member #4351
12-12-06, 23:33
Go to Relax and Vida, behind the large Interbank building, corner J. Prado and Paseo de la Republica.

Volpone
12-13-06, 16:50
Thanks David
How much should I pay for the entrance and for a handjob?

I've just bought a sim card this morning for my mobile. I don't have a fix phone number in my apartment. So I will have to use my mobile phone to call some cheap escorts in Lima. Do you think they will agree to come with a number of a mobile?
I read on that forum, that they usually check the number...

Lima Busy
12-13-06, 17:42
Thanks David
How much should I pay for the entrance and for a handjob?

I've just bought a sim card this morning for my mobile. I don't have a fix phone number in my apartment. So I will have to use my mobile phone to call some cheap escorts in Lima. Do you think they will agree to come with a number of a mobile?
I read on that forum, that they usually check the number...
The going rate is S/70 for 1hr + a tip about S/30 depending on weither she uses both hands.

Should not be a problem with a cellphone, if she balks meet her in a local cafe.
LB

Globe Trotter
12-13-06, 22:01
Volpone,

Here is the address for Relax y Vida ask for Viviana she is Excellent- Entrance is 160 Soles and if the girl likes you you can get full service for a 50-80 soles propina. The place is awesome, ask for the double room with Sauna and bath. The ladies are very friendly and do not hustle you, check your valuables when you come in.

Happy hunting!

Globe Trotter
12-13-06, 22:05
Volpone,

Here is the address for Relax y Vida -Av. Carlos Villaran #121 in front of INTERBANK- Tel-265-5370 and ask for Viviana she is Excellent has a killer body and love to please her clients, a very sweet girl gives great bbj and full service even though they say that only blow jobs are allowed, propina (tip) goes a long way ... Entrance is 160 Soles and if the girl likes you you can get full service for a 50-80 soles propina. The place is awesome, ask for the double room with Sauna and bath. The ladies are very friendly and do not hustle you, check your valuables when you come in.

Happy hunting!

Member #4351
12-14-06, 15:10
if someone reads this and tells those in charge she will be fired. they are very strict about the girls doing full service, there are peepholes in the doors to make sure that this doesn´t go on, and therefore the few which do...will provide it in the saunas. if one wants full service, i suggest they go elsewhere and you might consider taking out her name from your post.

Volpone
12-14-06, 17:59
I want to thanks to everybody, that gives me informations. Here is my small report, but I will write some others as I will be quite a long time here. I hope it will help some people too.


Yesterday I went to an apartment in San Isidro. I found the phone number on the website www.escortpoint.com and then you choose Peru. Name of the girl is Xiomi, 19 years old. 95491381. The apartment is near 11. block of Aramburu str.
Well the girl, that I met there, was much more than 19 and I didn´t like how she looks. She wanted 120 soles. She told me that a 19 years old girl will come later. So if you go there, try to be sure, that the 19 years old girl is there.

So then I went to Holtel Los Andes on Angamos Este 833. Just take the lift and go to the 9th floor. I paid 20 soles for the sauna, then I asked for a massage and I could choose between about 10 girls. I really didn´t which one to choose, because they nearly all of them look really good. I took a 21 years old girl from Callao and I get a normal massage for 20 soles. Then she asked me for a full session,
half hour 130 soles
1 hour 200 soles.
I took the half hour session, great sex, great body, great face.....I loved it...

I will go on dating girls for the weekend, then some more exercises are foreseen for the next week.

No Zanax
12-15-06, 21:58
Hit Tequila Rocks last night around 11pm, was not even 5 minutes before this little chica was rubbing herself all over me. She started kissing and groping before I could finish my first drink- I was a little uncomfortable with all the PDA. I love it in private, but I don't enjoy putting on a show for everyone else.

Otherwise, a perfect evening. Her name was Milagros, probably 23, all of about 5'0". She went on and on about me gusto, and que guapo, even till the next morning. I didn't quite know how to get her out of my room when we were done, not without being rude, so she stayed the night. Multiple pops, no bj, but very intimate and complete GFE, so that was ok. She didn't ask for a thing 'till the next morning when I was kicking her out(I had a meeting, of course, lol), and even then, only what I thought was appropriate. I had no idea what was acceptable, so I gave s./40, plus 5 for a taxi. Was that appropriate? Anyway, she left her digits and email for me. Side note: The taxi driver tried to charge me 10 soles for the ride back to Hotel Las Americas(a whole 3 blocks!). I asked him if I was a stupid tourista, countered with 5, and he accepted. Any better way to approach that situation? I just went with my gut response, and though it went ok, I'm sure that it could have easily gone the other direction. When you know you're getting screwed, whats the best approach?

Overall, a great start in Lima. To all the old-timers who have been posting here, thanks.

keep it cheap
No Z

Elberto
12-15-06, 22:49
Side note: The taxi driver tried to charge me 10 soles for the ride back to Hotel Las Americas(a whole 3 blocks!). I asked him if I was a stupid tourista, countered with 5, and he accepted. Any better way to approach that situation?

I had a similar situation in Panama City my first night in town. I paid the cabbie to avoid a scene in front of my friends, but every time after that before I stepped in a cab I asked "Cuanto cuesta a [the location]?".

I had a couple of cab drivers think I was stupid and quoted ridiculous prices, but it was never long until another one came along and offered a reasonable price.

Member #4351
12-16-06, 00:46
You paid her about 20% of the going rate in Tequilas and less than what most SWs charge, and since she probably doesn´t live close to Miraflores she´ll have to use part of the 40 soles for her cab.

Samu Ray
12-16-06, 03:19
I read a good report on a girl whose picture appears on...perutops...
I called the agency she works for. I was assured that same girl would knock
on my door at the hotel I told them I was staying in. The girl who came was
not the one I was expecting. This agency was ... brendas... I gave the girl
ten soles and send her on her way. I called another agency... chanel... the
same thing happened! Those people must think tourists are idiots, that they
would not know the difference. In desperation I went to ¨Cucardas¨. I paid
25 soles entrance and 50 to screw, yeah! those are the new prices!

From what read on ...perutops... there are tons and tons of *****s to
choose from, but when you call and are told to go to the houses they are in,
you will find a less attractive girls.

Dutchman
12-16-06, 13:32
Side note: The taxi driver tried to charge me 10 soles for the ride back to Hotel Las Americas(a whole 3 blocks!). I asked him if I was a stupid tourista, countered with 5, and he accepted. Any better way to approach that situation? I just went with my gut response, and though it went ok, I'm sure that it could have easily gone the other direction. When you know you're getting screwed, whats the best approach?

Overall, a great start in Lima. To all the old-timers who have been posting here, thanks.

keep it cheap
No Z


In peru your roll as passenger is different from other country. The passenger set the fare. Ever notice taxi comes by, talk to the passenger, drive away. The passenger is telling the driver, I would like to pay x soles to bring me to Y. If the driver accept, the passenger jumps in, if not. Next taxi.

Dutchman

Lima Busy
12-16-06, 19:02
I read a good report on a girl whose picture appears on...perutops...
I called the agency she works for. I was assured that same girl would knock
on my door at the hotel I told them I was staying in. The girl who came was
not the one I was expecting. This agency was ... brendas... I gave the girl
ten soles and send her on her way. I called another agency... chanel... the
same thing happened! Those people must think tourists are idiots, that they
would not know the difference. In desperation I went to ¨Cucardas¨. I paid
25 soles entrance and 50 to screw, yeah! those are the new prices!

From what read on ...perutops... there are tons and tons of *****s to
choose from, but when you call and are told to go to the houses they are in,
you will find a less attractive girls.
Most guys do not use the agency's, there are more than enough girls on the Indie sites and prices are a hell of alot better.

No Z,
A Taxi anywhere in Miraflores is S/3 except when you have a hooker on your arm, in that case S/4-5 is acceptable. If the girl you paid S/40 calls or comes back you paid the right amount if not you will probably be ignored your next trip to Tequila's.

LB
Lb

Loumann
12-20-06, 03:44
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Polvo
12-24-06, 23:21
..... if not you will probably be ignored your next trip to Tequila's....LB

Or, a favorite trick there, is to stick chewing gum on your clothing!! Usually the outerwear. Yes, personal experience!

Polvo

Hoof Hunter
12-28-06, 06:04
There's a reason I stopped posting specifics anymore. LOL!!! Since I rarely plan to go back there, here's the deal on RyV.

For the record, there is no entrance price to Relax y Vida. Zero. A massage and sauna session incl. BJ and handjob (approx. 60-90 mins depending.....) costs 70 soles, PLUS a propina which should not exceed more than 40-50 soles.

You can also elect to get a massage only, for 35 soles for 30 mins. BJ and handjob as well, if you can hold a decent conversation or make them laugh. None of this is new. Been this way for a while.

Oh yeah, great job on outting one of the few full service chicks there.

Here's goes Loutron South. Y'all can have it.


Volpone,

Here is the address for Relax y Vida -Av. Carlos Villaran #121 in front of INTERBANK- Tel-265-5370 and ask for Viviana she is Excellent has a killer body and love to please her clients, a very sweet girl gives great bbj and full service even though they say that only blow jobs are allowed, propina (tip) goes a long way ... Entrance is 160 Soles and if the girl likes you you can get full service for a 50-80 soles propina. The place is awesome, ask for the double room with Sauna and bath. The ladies are very friendly and do not hustle you, check your valuables when you come in.

Happy hunting!

Mr Enternational
12-28-06, 06:23
In peru your roll as passenger is different from other country. The passenger set the fare. Ever notice taxi comes by, talk to the passenger, drive away. The passenger is telling the driver, I would like to pay x soles to bring me to Y. If the driver accept, the passenger jumps in, if not. Next taxi.

DutchmanIt's funny you should say that. My main non-pro in Lima paid US$20 to pick me up from the airport in a taxi. Leaving the airport going to the hotel she secured a price of 20. I thought she meant soles, but it was dollars. I was pissed at her. When it was time for me to go, I flagged a driver down and negotiated with him to take her home and afterwards drop me at the airport for only S/25. And I am American and speak only enough Spanish to get by.

Mr Enternational
12-28-06, 06:31
In desperation I went to ¨Cucardas¨. I paid
25 soles entrance and 50 to screw, yeah! those are the new prices!What the fuck man. So the entrance increased by 5 and the screw by 10? They must think I'm made of money. I have to find a new place to monger while my girl is at work.

Volpone
12-28-06, 23:58
Hello,

Does anybody knows if the apartment for massage in Diez Canseco, first block is still open? I tried to call and nobody answered. I was there and the guard told me that it was closed.

TheCatsMeow88
12-29-06, 05:33
All,

The holiday season is here and I used some of my free time between Christmas and New Year to surf the web for new and interesting stuff. I came across a website that is probably already well known to the Lima and Peru experts. Still, not having seen it mentioned in the Peru thread I thought it would be worth a post.

The site is www.perumodelos.com and it appears to be a legitimate modeling agency. There are some real lovelies on the site with Cecilia Bonelli being my favorite and Ethel Torres a close second (though I have not checked out all the models yet). Although these girls appear to be legitimate models it does not stop me wondering how easy it would be to date one. The reason I found the site in the first place is that one of the models is on "myspace"! I am also curious as to what rates are being asked for a modelling gig.

The next step would be to call the agency for prices and to arrange an appointment. I may, or may not, do this on my next visit. If anyone has more information or follows up before I do, please let me know.

The Cat

Member #4351
12-29-06, 17:26
They will screen you.

Lima Busy
12-29-06, 17:46
All,


The site is www.perumodelos.com and it appears to be a legitimate modeling agency. There are some real lovelies on the site with Cecilia Bonelli being my favorite and Ethel Torres a close second (though I have not checked out all the models yet). Although these girls appear to be legitimate models it does not stop me wondering how easy it would be to date one. The reason I found the site in the first place is that one of the models is on "myspace"! I am also curious as to what rates are being asked for a modelling gig.


The Cat
I have several friends that date "Modelo's", One actually has a "Miss Peru World" contestant coming to his apartment tonight and will be bringing her and some friends to the "Z" Bar-b-que tomorrow. They will all tell you if you try to approach them on a "Professional" basis and then try to date them, you will be shot down. The best way is to get a prensa pass to a fashion show and just chat them up. If you have legitimate connections (rag trade) in the states get a "letter of introduction" and submit it to ACAP as they get passes to all the events. Being a textile center in SA there are events on a weekly basis. Although I have met some quite charming one's, most are interested in furthering their short careers and will only date you if there is the possibility of a big payoff in the end.

LB

LB

Lima Busy
12-29-06, 20:19
Have not seen anyone mention it yet, so I figured I would let you fan's and soon to be fan's know!

LB

Polvo
12-29-06, 20:38
Have not seen anyone mention it yet, so I figured I would let you fan's and soon to be fan's know!

LB

R&V or TR??

Polvo

R Brandon
12-30-06, 04:13
Camilla has the long standing reputation as the best of the best at R&V.rbc100

Member #4351
12-30-06, 16:34
Well for what its worth, Surfer fell in love with her after one session.

TheCatsMeow88
12-30-06, 21:35
LB,

Thank you for the advice and I agree with most of what you wrote. The funny thing is that I have a good friend who runs his own clothing label here in the United States and is always on the look-out for modelling talent for his shows. It would be real easy for me to get a letter of introduction if I really wanted one.

The issue is this: Models are models the world over. Essentially, God and good genes have endowed the top girls with exceptional looks and lean/curvacious bodies. They know what they have and it does not take them long to figure out how to leverage their assets. So, yes, most of them are looking for a quid pro quo with a big payoff sooner rather than later.

The proven formula for reeling in models is to spend alot of money. Not all of it needs to be spent on them but you need to create an image, at least in their minds. However, the definition of "alot of money" varies depending on where you are in the world. Quite frankly, I do not have the prerequisite financial resources required to chase a top model in New York, London or Paris. However, I get the feeling that these girls are within easier reach in places like Lima and Jakarta.

Another issue is time. When I visit Lima, it is usually for 3-4 days at a time. Baiting, hooking and reeling in the top-shelf girls requires a longer term presence. However, having dated models in the past, I am in no doubt that it can be done.

The Cat



I have several friends that date "Modelo's", One actually has a "Miss Peru World" contestant coming to his apartment tonight and will be bringing her and some friends to the "Z" Bar-b-que tomorrow. They will all tell you if you try to approach them on a "Professional" basis and then try to date them, you will be shot down. The best way is to get a prensa pass to a fashion show and just chat them up. If you have legitimate connections (rag trade) in the states get a "letter of introduction" and submit it to ACAP as they get passes to all the events. Being a textile center in SA there are events on a weekly basis. Although I have met some quite charming one's, most are interested in furthering their short careers and will only date you if there is the possibility of a big payoff in the end.

LB

LB