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Dark Vader

06-13-10, 09:11

Just back from a few days in Sexland visited Insomnia (www.insomnia-berlin.de), King George (www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de) and my perennial favourite Le Coq (www.lecoq.de)
Insomnia - First stop and was very much looking forward to it but in the event I didn't think it lived up to the hype. Don't get me wrong it was good but not great. I may have just caught it on a off day of course.
King George - It's a Partytreff folks but not as I know them. Key difference was the fact that you spend most of your time in your street clothes rather than lounging around in towels or bathrobe and so it felt more like visiting a pub. Mostly Romanian talent - think Pussy Club or NLG - reasonable line if you like that type but I prefer slightly more "experience" and a bit more flesh. It didn't help that the service sucked and it certainly didn't dispel the theory that Berlin has yet to learn how to do PT's properly.
Le Coq - Hot footed it across from Berlin to make their regular B&W party. The crowd was down from last month but the experience was just as a good with some real horny ladies there.
Will report in more detail when I get some time.

Jalapaa

06-27-10, 20:49

I will be in the Nuremberg area in a few weeks and have partaken in the local FKK club (Palmas), but am interested in trying a Partytreff. Does anyone have any information on the SexDiscounts in Nuremberg or Erhlangen?

I would appreciate any info that you may have to share.

Thanks

Wanking

07-02-10, 14:24

Ok so La Luna had a flatrate party yesterday http://club-laluna-moers.de, and I am was anxious to know about the next party which I hoped would be in 4 weeks, but as I need to book a flight etc I need to know the exact date.

So I called them (via Skype on my iphone) and the lady who speaks good English told me that they may not have a party until near September because Its now summer holidays in Germany and there wont be many people around, and it might be too quiet for a party.

I then told her that they NEED to put a calendar on their site, and announce all future events giving at least 2 months notice, so guys like me can plan their visit.

She then said that she is not the boss but she would suggest it to the boss.

Myrrh

07-02-10, 15:45

The flat rate party was on Thursday 1st July and the gang bang party is on Monday 5th July. So there are only 4 days between the two 'monthly' parties.

Why can't they just spread them out by having a couple of weeks between each?

Judging from the La luna email, I think that they are probably noticing a large drop in the number of guys attending on the days either side of the flat rate party and so are keen to reduce the frequency of these parties.

I mean if you attended on Wednesday or Friday this week then you would need to pay €25 entrance plus €60 euro per 20 minute session - a total of €85. A second session would push the total up to €145. Whereas if you attended on the Thursday for the flat rate party then it is €150 and you can squeeze in as many 20 minute sessions as you like for that price (supposedly).

If you want to have sex more than twice on your visit then it's a no brainer.

Ok so La Luna had a flatrate party yesterday http://club-laluna-moers.de, and I am was anxious to know about the next party which I hoped would be in 4 weeks, but as I need to book a flight etc I need to know the exact date.

So I called them (via Skype on my iphone) and the lady who speaks good English told me that they may not have a party until near September because Its now summer holidays in Germany and there wont be many people around, and it might be too quiet for a party.

I then told her that they NEED to put a calendar on their site, and announce all future events giving at least 2 months notice, so guys like me can plan their visit.

She then said that she is not the boss but she would suggest it to the boss.

Varenne

07-02-10, 16:02

She then said that she is not the boss but she would suggest it to the boss.No wonder that on the official forum somebody just happened to suggest to change the section named "the users ask, the cellar [meant here is Laluna] answers" into "the users ask, the cellar doesn't answer".
From early reports it sounds like last party started with 7 girls and some 8-10 customers. Probably not enough to make the event profitable.

Wanking

07-02-10, 16:28

No wonder that on the official forum somebody just happened to suggest to change the section named "the users ask, the cellar [meant here is Laluna] answers" into "the users ask, the cellar doesn't answer".
From early reports it sounds like last party started with 7 girls and some 8-10 customers. Probably not enough to make the event profitable.

What they need to do is set the flat rate party on the 1st Thursday of every month or something, like they do with the gangbang, which is the first monday of every month. I think it will work out for them if they set regular days and then customers have enough notice to plan for the event.

Also they ran the last party (yesterday) way too soon after the previous party, and didnt give enough notice. Fucks sake, no wonder there were not too many guys there.

Clearly the people in charge are not too bright!

Varenne

07-02-10, 18:51

Fucks sake, no wonder there were not too many guys there.
More reasons for the defections might also be:
- the place was expected to be very hot and unconfortable due to the current high temperatures in NRN, lack of proper ventilation in the basement (where the club is located), and the additional heat from washing and drier machines spinning all the time (yes, they have now enough towels!)
- many of the girls have their own vacation at this time of the year, resulting in only 7 girls available for the party (Arabella , Anetta, Aida, Roberta, Rebecca, Aniella, Nicoletta)
- upon inquiry on the day before the party, the management still couldn't provide any information on the girls attendance ("we don't know, the girls come and go at their own will").

The party was attended by some 20 customers during the whole day, making it still excellent value for money.

Myrrh

07-02-10, 21:54

More reasons for the defections might also be:

- the place was expected to be very hot and unconfortable due to the current high temperatures in NRN, lack of proper ventilation in the basement (where the club is located), and the additional heat from washing and drier machines spinning all the time (yes, they have now enough towels!)

- many of the girls have their own vacation at this time of the year, resulting in only 7 girls available for the party (Arabella, Anetta, Aida, Roberta, Rebecca, Aniella, Nicoletta)

- upon inquiry on the day before the party, the management still couldn't provide any information on the girls attendance ("we don't know, the girls come and go at their own will").

The party was attended by some 20 customers during the whole day, making it still excellent value for money.I checked the site a few times over the past week for the gang bang party on 5th July and they have changed names of the four girls attending twice during that period. So if you booked your trip a week ago based on the advertised line up then only two of the orignally named four girls would be the same.

As it stands all 4 of the girls attending the gang bang party will be amongst the 7 girls who attended the flat rate party. So if you attended the flat rate party and wanted to see new girls at the gang bang party then. Unfortunately most of the more attractive girls never do the gang bangs.

Gggfan

07-04-10, 14:02

Hi all !

I just came across spermastudio which is advertising gangbang events (mostly AO). They organise events several times a month (2 in july, 3 in august) in their "sperma villa" in Gelsenkirchen (sometimes in other places).

I took a membership on their website, and wow ... their parties seem to be really hot. Parties are filmed and you can watch big bits of it on their website. Girls are hot and seem to enjoy what they are doing. For the CIM, AO, creampie fans, these parties seem to be the ones to attend.

I wondered if any of you have already attended one of their parties of planning to ...

GGGfan

Wanking

07-04-10, 20:26

What's the website?

Hi all !

I just came across spermastudio which is advertising gangbang events (mostly AO). They organise events several times a month (2 in july, 3 in august) in their "sperma villa" in Gelsenkirchen (sometimes in other places).

I took a membership on their website, and wow ... their parties seem to be really hot. Parties are filmed and you can watch big bits of it on their website. Girls are hot and seem to enjoy what they are doing. For the CIM, AO, creampie fans, these parties seem to be the ones to attend.

I wondered if any of you have already attended one of their parties of planning to ...

GGGfan

Copenhagen

07-05-10, 05:42

What's the website?See www.spermastudio.de

Lubriderm69

07-09-10, 18:04

Hello. This is my first post. I am in Düsseldorf on sex holiday (first time in Germany) thanks to the great wealth of information Wan King and others have provided. Many thanks to all. A few questions: with the temperature reaching 95 Fahrenheit (34 celsius) today in Düsseldorf, I am having trouble finding fkk or partytreffs that have good air conditioning or even enough fans in fuck rooms. I have had many a session lately where I emerged drenched in sweat and out of breath. Almost thought I would have a heart attack once due to so much heat. Can anyone recommend some clubs that are air conditioned please?

Another question. I seem to have picked up some rugburn on my dick (hopefully not gonorrhea) from too much fucking. I need to rest and heal up a bit. Can anyone suggest a place near Düsseldorf where I might be able to watch live sex without having to participate?

Thanks

Wanking

07-10-10, 13:44

Hello. This is my first post. I am in Düsseldorf on sex holiday (first time in Germany) thanks to the great wealth of information Wan King and others have provided. Many thanks to all. A few questions: with the temperature reaching 95 Fahrenheit (34 celsius) today in Düsseldorf, I am having trouble finding fkk or partytreffs that have good air conditioning or even enough fans in fuck rooms. I have had many a session lately where I emerged drenched in sweat and out of breath. Almost thought I would have a heart attack once due to so much heat. Can anyone recommend some clubs that are air conditioned please?

I dont know of any clubs with Air conditioned Rooms. Certainly no partytreff or flat rate clubs.

Another question. I seem to have picked up some rugburn on my dick (hopefully not gonorrhea) from too much fucking. I need to rest and heal up a bit. Can anyone suggest a place near Düsseldorf where I might be able to watch live sex without having to participate?
Thanks

You could watch in Mettmann and not participate if you dont want. There are no live sex shows in Düsseldorf, like in Amsterdam if thats what you mean.

Lubriderm69

07-10-10, 15:13

I dont know of any clubs with Air conditioned Rooms. Certainly no partytreff or flat rate clubs.

Ok, hopefully this heat wave will end soon! Its over 90 degrees again today.
You could watch in Mettmann and not participate if you dont want. There are no live sex shows in Düsseldorf, like in Amsterdam if thats what you mean.Thanks, Mettman was already on my list to check out. So its among the best for watching public sex? Any other good voyeuristic opportunities in Düsseldorf area, sex shows don't exist, but what about some other clubs with lots of public action besides Mettman? I'd like to check out a gangbang but are there any happening before July 27?

Copenhagen

07-12-10, 06:47

Dear fellow mongers,

While planning my next visit I found it very difficult to keep track of all the better party treff clubs. Where are they located? When do they open? How many girls? What is the flat rate? Do they have a garden and a pool?

This is why I prepared a new and very modest compeditor to Wanking's wonderful map. I collected these very essential pieces of information from the web and added them directly onto a new google map. It took quit some time to locate the information, and still there are some data missing. Please enjoy the new map and suggest improvements by adding coments to the map.

Find the new map here: http://nicePT.notlong.com/

It can make planing your trips easier!

Wanking: please forgive me for daring to compete with you map.

Best summer wishes

Wanking

07-12-10, 20:39

Find the new map here: http://nicePT.notlong.com/

It can make planing your trips easier!

Wanking: please forgive me for daring to compete with you map.

Best summer wishes

Not at all, I congratulate you. After all my number one aim is just to get the info out there in the open.

It can be hard to know what is a good club and what is not, as everybodys taste varies, and for that reason I just include all clubs that I know of on my map, in the hope that more unknown clubs will be discovered and reported on.

Originally when I started my map, I only added clubs that got good reviews here, but then I just lashed them all on for the reasons stated above.

Copenhagen

07-13-10, 05:49

I dont know of any clubs with Air conditioned Rooms. Certainly no partytreff or flat rate clubs.This PT club does have aircon : http://www.xantener-partytreff.de

Womanizer

07-14-10, 10:57

Hi,

This is my first post and I am happy to say that this forum has been a big help so far. Lots of enthusiasts out there. =)

I am going to Cologne next week and would like to go to a good partytreff. I have read about Mettmann (not so good anymore?), and have also found interest in Pauschalclub Bochum since they seem to have good looking girls. This will also be my first time at a partytreff so I don't know if it is my thing or not. Only FKK before.

No reports about Swingertreff-18 which is located in Cologne.

Recommendations anyone?

Copenhagen

07-17-10, 19:51

Thanks for you positive feed back on my new google map at http://nicePT.notlong.com.

I have just updated the map with a few more excellent partytreff clubs.

Please try using it and experience how easy it has become to plan your next visit to German partytreff clubs.

I would love a 'rating' on the map from you next time you visit.

All the best from

Copenhagen

PS: I also made a map of Copenhagen (not flat rate) clubs at http://cph.notlong.com

RBond007

07-21-10, 20:50

Dear Friends,

I am planning to visit Germany in the end of August and was looking at visiting some PT Clubs , During my trip to germany I am only able to travel by Public transport such as trains , taxis etc as I dont drive myself.

Therefore I wanted to seek some advice from all you experts out here that which is the best airport to fly to from Dubai to be able to be close to the PT Clubs and which would be the recommended PT to visit, as I will be free in Germany for 2 to 3 days so i could potentially visit 1 or 2 clubs during this space of time. After looking at this forum I am really confused now as to which is my best bet in terms of the PT or which is the most recommended PT to visit given my situation where there is a good line up of girls and I can take some good memories back from.

Any suggestions and guidance from all you experts out there will be highly , highly appreciated.

Thanks a ton

Rbond007

Angus Magee

07-24-10, 08:22

It seems that the Boss (female I think) of the Pussy Club chain that seemed to come to grief last year in a series of police raids has just ben sentenced to 3 years in the joint for withholding wages and/or social security funds. The German report can be read here.

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/0,1518,708193,00.html

I read it with the use of a browser translator so I may have a detail or two wrong. A synopsis by a fluent German speaker would be appreciated.

AM

Lexb

07-24-10, 21:13

On the Pussy Club group that you can read in English.

[Link deleted by Admin]

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited to remove links to a competing Forum. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines and the Forum's FAQ for further information. Thanks!

Jalapaa

07-24-10, 23:03

Not at all, I congratulate you. After all my number one aim is just to get the info out there in the open.

It can be hard to know what is a good club and what is not, as everybodys taste varies, and for that reason I just include all clubs that I know of on my map, in the hope that more unknown clubs will be discovered and reported on.

Originally when I started my map, I only added clubs that got good reviews here, but then I just lashed them all on for the reasons stated above.Hello Wanking,

You appear to be the ranking expert on PT's on the site so I would like to know if you would be able to answer my question:

I will be in the Nuremberg area in a few weeks and have partaken in the local FKK club (Palmas), but am interested in trying a Partytreff. Does anyone have any information on the SexDiscounts in Nuremberg or Erhlangen?

I would appreciate any info that you may have to share.

Thanks

Wanking

07-26-10, 23:24

I think we may have had some info on those clubs over a year ago, you would need to search back through the other partytreffs thread.

I really only have info on, and am interested in clubs in the Dusseldorf area as its the most convenient airport to fly into for me.

Hello Wanking,

You appear to be the ranking expert on PT's on the site so I would like to know if you would be able to answer my question:

I will be in the Nuremberg area in a few weeks and have partaken in the local FKK club (Palmas), but am interested in trying a Partytreff. Does anyone have any information on the SexDiscounts in Nuremberg or Erhlangen?

I would appreciate any info that you may have to share.

Thanks

Wanking

07-28-10, 09:06

Mrknowitall

07-30-10, 08:17

Nice to see the weather in the Dusseldorf area back in the low 20's. If it was still in the 30's like two weeks ago, I would be looking forward to some sweaty sex, anyway current weather suits me better.Yup. early July it was >35 here on some days. Way too hot to fuck. None of those partytreffs have A/C. (Klimanlagen)

Ccseeka

07-30-10, 11:35

Back from a mixed trip in terms of service.

I have been neglecting my gut instincts the last two trips.

Firstly, about changing the pills then this trip just gone about changing my original plans to visit certain clubs.

Dropped Dolce Vita and PT Osnabruck due to the latest negative reports. Now regret doing so in favour of Deja Vu and La Vita.

Reports to follow

Sauna club Déjà vu
Partytreff Bunde
Partytreff La Vita

Ended up not having enough time to visit PT Geeske on way to the airport.

Pity Wan King I was leaving the NRW just as you were arriving. Maybe one day we meet up somehow. Did you bring your umbrella!

Dark Vader

07-31-10, 01:08

Ccseeka

07-31-10, 09:02

Am in the midst of doing the research for my next trip and spotted that Saunaclub AmbrOsia (www.club-ambrosia.com) is advertising an AO gangbang next Tuesday 3 hours for €100.

I've not been there and so can't vouch for it and won't be able to make it but anyone care to go and do some field research?Are they a sister club to Diskretempfang?

Getting mixed info on the page is it 50E a session at this club or 25E? The Diskretempfang bit says 50 the club itself say 25.

Dark Vader

08-03-10, 02:54

Are they a sister club to Diskretempfang?

Getting mixed info on the page is it 50E a session at this club or 25E? The Diskretempfang bit says 50 the club itself say 25.Hmm not really sure on both counts but with regard to pricing having re-read the page I too am confused.

I think we need a report to clear it up or perhaps the debate needs to be shifted to the FKK forum - http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1039143&postcount=2409

Wanking

08-03-10, 08:46

Ccseeka

08-03-10, 21:10

Just home from Hoormany and plenty to report on but highlight was Sunday afternoon in Swingertreff Moers where I had 2 amazing sessions with a very sexy local blonde lady in her late 30's/ early 40's. Bareback and she CIMed me aswell. All coming soon.

Now I'm off to hunt for a new iPhone 4.Blimey hitting new territory there with bare sex with local ladies in A German swingers club. I looked at their site they have gangbang parties.

Look forward that report WK!

On a side note.

Do you know what the new time limit for report edits is.

Just noticed today that have no longer have the chance to alter my latest reports. Wanted to correct some of the abbreviations. A trip lacking in fireworks fucks up the alertness.

Ibn Buttita

08-04-10, 00:04

Ccseeka

08-04-10, 18:52

Just came across latest info on Salma De Nora's website.

It is saying that her party at PT Xanten last Friday there were 200 guys! Granted there were also 20 girls.

http://www.salmadenora.com/short-trip/152/

HotBoyVa

08-04-10, 21:38

I am planning to visit some partytreff clubs in Stuttgart region for the first time. I would like to know if there are any good PT's in this area.

Also, I would like to know if entry is allowed to anyone of any nationality and race and if they accept everyone. What are the chances of getting laid?

Is protection provided in the club or we need to carry it?

Dark Vader

08-05-10, 08:41

I'm trying to set up an FKK-PT itinerary in NRW (related posts in FKKs General Information), and keep trying to resolve this issue:

Other than the different pricing structure (which seems to generally even out in terms of total cost), do the lower cost FKKs (i.e. Alcapulco, F39, Dolce Vita) differ that much from the Partytreffs/Pauschalclubs in terms of girl quality (looks/service) and general atmosphere?Typically girls are much better looking in FKKs (even the lower cost ones) than in PT's. Whilst you can get stunners in a PT the average quality is going to much worse. Service tends to be more subjective and unfortunately you can get crap service in both formats but at least it doesn't cost you as much in a PT! If you're only going to have a few sessions say less than 3/4 then you're probably better off sticking with an FKK particularly if optics are key for you.

And though seeking a consensus seems a lost cause, and despite reading some highly appreciated reports (thanks, AS), I wonder if there are any additional opinions on how Harem Erkrath, Pauschalclub Bochum, Globe, and No Limit Girlies stack up against one another? For example, which has the most nudity, most attractive girls, or most public action?Not been to Globe yet but have been to the rest and none of these clubs are great for public option. If that's what you're looking for then you're better off going to Dorsten, Mettmann or somewhere like PT Dolce Vita (although this club is not in NRW).

Bochum and Erkrath are probably on a par for girls think 5-7's. You can check out Bochum's staff on their website but remember to make allowances for photoshopping. NLG is a predominately Romanian crew. The staff are younger but not the best looking and I like the "atmosphere" much better at Bochum and Erkrath. The food is better at Erkrath but service is better at Bochum. All these places have short ~20-30 minute sessions and NLG is definitely bottom of this group.

I will be visiting Globe on Friday and so will be able to compare and contrast next week.

Ibn Buttita

08-05-10, 19:54

My $0.02

Dark Vader -
I owe you, and definitely more than 2 pfennigs. Your report clarifies things greatly, especially since you've tried most of the places I mentioned. I'll be looking forward to your report on Globe Leverkusen. I plan to try a couple of partytreffs, but now may put saunaclub/FKKs like Alcapulco or F39 ahead of them on my to-do list.
Thanks!
IB

Wanking

08-05-10, 22:56

Pity Wan King I was leaving the NRW just as you were arriving. Maybe one day we meet up somehow. Did you bring your umbrella!

Mate I would love to meet up sometime. If you start posting your travel plans we might be able to sort something out.

Luckily the rain wasn't too bad,
WK

Ccseeka

08-06-10, 13:17

Mate I would love to meet up sometime. If you start posting your travel plans we might be able to sort something out.

Luckily the rain wasn't too bad,

WKWK, will do one day

Unless you fancy a trip in Berlin in October.

I keep picking one trip in mind then changing it. The last two trips have kind of gone against my instincts. Must be suffering from monger's malaise? So am taking notice this time and want to explore the capital for the first time.

Should be really getting these regional visits out of my system first while I get the chance. I was on a roll with each trip by going to a new region for the first time. I should have then carried the good run onto Berlin.

I am also wondering if the standard of service and attentiveness has gone up now you are almost a regular at one club. I.e. Harem. I am thinking in future to base regular trips in NRW on the following formula for a four dayer.

One day - Visit the same partytreff

One day - Random visits to partytreffs

One to two days - Gangbangs in kino, event or swinger club night.

Do you happen to know the cure for monger's malaise by any chance?

Ccseeka

08-06-10, 15:13

For the AO enthusiasts out there.

There is a possible AO kino event in Hannover next month. The kino is half kino labyrinth and half bar and lounge. The bar area is quite plush.

Am I reading the poster right that the entry fee is only a short train ride fare's worth 8 euros 50 cents! IF so then it must the cheapest deal around. But doubt it maybe it is pay per session surely.

From the blowbox site.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/120/webhannover.jpg

The girl with long hair had good sessions with her in Koln. The punky blond 'Mandy' is on the club77 site. This is in Berlin.

http://www.club77-berlin.com/events/index.php

Dark Vader

08-08-10, 15:18

With a number of sports, including triathlon, these days making a pitch to be included in the Olympics I thought maybe a triathlon with a difference might be appropriate - a sex triathlon!

Naturally it's important to hold a trial event to check the viability and so I decided to change the itinerary of my latest trip to give it a whirl.

So I did:
Fours hours at the Globe; followed by
Two hours at a Seesternchen gangbang before concluding with
Six hours at the Kasteel swinger's club

Suffice to say I think the sport has merit!

Clearly a "warm down" is appropriate after such exertions and so the following day I reamed some arses at PT Flair before swinging the night away at Caesars.

All in all a very good trip!

Dark Vader

08-08-10, 17:03

Dark Vader -
I'll be looking forward to your report on Globe Leverkusen.Just got back and it maybe a while before I write my report and so suffice to say Australiasucks was right!

http://www.club-globe.de/
This is the Globe, its an excellent top notch partytreff.Good facilities with an excellent outdoor area, 15-20 girls of a reasonable standard not really FKK quality but certainly a point or 2 higher than Harem Erkrath. The food could do with some improvement but other than that a really good place.

p.s. The club wasn't too busy when I was there on Friday afternoon but the girls told me that the club gets fairly popular with our Turkish friends on Friday evening and at weekends.

Ccseeka

08-10-10, 15:20

So I did:
Fours hours at the Globe; followed by
Two hours at a Seesternchen gangbang before concluding with
Six hours at the Kasteel swinger's club

DV,

That session at Seesternchen if it was Tanja be interesting to know her as a performer. Seems to be the resident lady there.

Also will keep a look out for that Kasteel swinger's club report.

Nice to know the Globe is sustaining a good rep.

PS. For that all dayer did you have a cocktail of blue and yellow pills!! Like your approach of trying a different formula.

Wanking

08-12-10, 00:35

Been as busy as fuck lately but I have written most of my report from my recent trip and hope to post it this weekend.

Wanking

08-17-10, 17:58

Flew into Duss on the early flight, which was shit cos it meant I would get no sleep apart from 40 minutes on the plane which hardly counts. I normally take an evening flight that doesn’t interfere with my sleep. I arrived at www.fuerstenhof-duesseldorf.de around 10.30 am and luckily they had my room ready. Tried to sleep but couldn’t so decided to go to www.birkensauna.de/ for the afternoon.

I was there on my last trip and I really dig this country sauna. €19 for all day entry is ok value, even if it seemed to be an OAPs special day. Man I have never seen so many ladies over 70 years naked in one place. Of course I didn’t look too closely for fear of feeling ill. In fact one old lady who was missing her right arm kept staring at me all day, hhmmm maybe I missed my big chance!!! Btw there were also 4 young women also parading naked so that was something decent to look at.

One thing they do in all these sauna complexes is this hourly sauna ritual, where the people all gather in a chosen sauna for 10 - 15 minutes, and an attendant then pours special flavoured water on the stones. Then he whips a towel around the air, and man the sweat just pours out of you, and you feel amazing afterwards.

Met my favourite old Pot; Col Bog, who was staying in the same hotel that night. We went for a look at the hookers in the Bahndam but didn’t partake, and then we had some supper. I was too tired for any action that night, so we had an early night.

Day 2 (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1056756&postcount=180)

Wanking

08-20-10, 21:26

http://partytreff-mg-rheydt.de/

Now only €65 for whole day from Sunday to Thursday. Now that is cheap, but probably not great. Still I might check it on my forthcoming trip.

Dark Vader

08-20-10, 23:32

http://partytreff-mg-rheydt.de/

Now only €65 for whole day from Sunday to Thursday. Now that is cheap, but probably not great. Still I might check it on my forthcoming trip.Did a recce on my last trip.

Got there a bit too early and couldn't be bothered to wait but for what it's worth the exterior didn't look great. It's not too far from Rheydt Hbf and so easy to get to by public transport.

Wanking

08-21-10, 13:58

Ccseeka

08-21-10, 16:01

http://partytreff-mg-rheydt.de/

Now only €65 for whole day from Sunday to Thursday. Now that is cheap, but probably not great. Still I might check it on my forthcoming trip.I went there in May when I took the wrong pills so it affected the visit. Even so, the line up was pretty mixed hopefully they have improved quite a bit some what! it was 65 for four hours the last time.

On another note what I would like to see is a report of the new all inclusive day at club Saunaclub Ambrosia! The info below has now appeared on their main site.

http://www.fickanzeiger.com/sexpartys/index.php?id=1282149133

Seven young ladies all offering AO, one session of each girl.

Dark Vader...are you up for a visit of this club? You mentioned before you missed the date of the three hour version.

Perhaps Varenne can elaborate further to if this will be a regular feature.

Ccseeka

08-21-10, 16:15

Just went back to the Saunaclub Ambrosia site the all day version has gone. Hopefully it will be a regular feature.

Maybe once or twice a month?

I emailed another AO club in Eseen a few weeks back but have not received any replies.

Wanted to ask how much are the non GB sessions. They usually have a GB party for 80 euros.

http://gang-bangparty.com/home.html

Varenne

08-22-10, 01:43

Perhaps Varenne can elaborate further to if this will be a regular feature.No idea, but as only 5 customers allegedly attended their event, I'm not so sure it will have a future. It must have been a pretty enjoyable experience for the lucky few, even when only 6 girls (instead of the announced 7) were on duty.

Ccseeka

08-23-10, 22:16

No idea, but as only 5 customers allegedly attended their event, I'm not so sure it will have a future. It must have been a pretty enjoyable experience for the lucky few, even when only 6 girls (instead of the announced 7) were on duty.5 customers, a great ratio there!

As you say if that low number keeps turning out they may drop the all day version.

Ccseeka

08-23-10, 22:24

Have stumbled across a swingers club in Monchengladbach. Is the club a new one?

http://www.biggisswingerlounge.de/index.php?p=home

Also there is one that was not aware of in Duisburg.

http://www.esmeralda-wasserturm.de/

Ccseeka

08-31-10, 12:50

Looks like Suana club Ambrosia is doing another all day special on the 10th of September.

http://www.club-ambrosia.de/

Message to Wan King

You mentioned about partytreff-mg-rheydt, looks like it has merged with PT Viersen. Went to the Viersen site it just mentions the new address same as the rheydt one.

Would you consider it? must surely be much more of line up now.

Wanking

08-31-10, 16:50

http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1062387&postcount=45

Italia77

08-31-10, 21:23

Harem are almost getting it right, but a couple of things let it down. Still its an ok experience for €150 per 12 hours

PROS:
Great service from some girls
Great food from in house Restaurant (important if you want to fuck all day)
Fine big, brightly light club, especially rooms.
Great location near Dusseldorf
Great opening hours, 10am to 5 am
Totally unlimited sessions

Cons:
Most women too average looking
Some ugly women
Too many Bulgarians giving bad service
No Garden
No Whirlpool
No Free beer (€3.50 per bottle). they could give a few free bottles.

Still compared to some of the other clubs out there, Harem is still good.Hello, Mr Wan,

You are definitively right,

But I've listened rumors about a whole conversion of former fkk Atrium in flat-rate Harem. Now it's 50-50. Before was all fkk Atrium. Even if I never been in Atrium, I think when Harem will be completed it will become the best one.

U are not satisfied about the women look, but I can say that Dormagen have better ones, club it's better (garden-whirpool-sauna outside) but I think I will never been there. I hate watching girls boring as dead, no fun at all except for a couple of them such as Suzanne from Bulgaria and Cheyenne from USA/Germany, I will not return, girls seems not interesting in having sex with customers and when you approach mostly it's like if they have to walk to the electric chair.

In Erkrath girls are reasonably good, I mean in June the selection was better, in middle August was worst, but 2-3 girls are very sexy, for example the Latvian girls Vicky and Sasha are fkk style. And the latinass are very friendly just like Noris-Larissa and Lara or Tania. Alina the Romanian brunette that speak italian and spanish too is funny and got pretty body. Bulgarians are 50-50. Some are funny some not, but it's a reasonable risk.

I'm still curious to try the pauschalclub chain, never been there, and I readed controversial opinion about Globe so now. Erkrath it's my best way to feel a fkk cheap experience.

Did you received the PM?

Ccseeka

08-31-10, 22:06

When I visited Team Tabulos in Monchengladbach, Germany a month ago, I met a Dutch dude who told me about some hardcore parties taking place in Belgium, but not so far from Germany either.

He said some women perform bareback at both parties.

1) http://www.sexslavinnen.eu

First Thursday and third Sunday of every month. I dont see any prices mentioned on the site. Address is CIRCLE CLUB, Brechtsebaan 264, 2900 Schoten.

2) http://gangbangsluts.be

Im not sure how often this gang have parties. Site seems a bit lacking in proper info, but I haven't studied it in detail.That party sexslavinnen.eu has been going since 2007 or so looks pretty wild! Usually it is 125 euros.

Strangely enough I have had this place on my mind recently but unsure to visit it as photos are usually taken (Sundays). That Dutch dude would be right it is pretty hardcore/SM/Kinky.

I am in two minds if to go to Belgium next trip as really want a change of scenery. There are some cities such as Antwerp have yet to visit, have only been to Brussels so far.

There has been a good steady flow of parties/GB's in the country have been checking on recently that is wetting my appetite to make that trip.

Seven Spot

09-09-10, 11:37

Coming back to Cologne...

Last time I went to Poleposition because it was easy to get to via train, I had good and bad experiences and filed a few reports.

I see that Poleposition seems to heading downwards, I was wondering if there other partytreff alternatives reachable via train.

Ratta

09-12-10, 10:27

Are the girls in any of the pauschalclubs (Harem chain Erkrath and Dormagen, NoLimit Girlies, Pauschalclub chain Bochum, Dortmund and Muenster, Plaza Velbert, Palace Gladbeck etc.) nude or topless? Or do any of these clubs offer FKK parties? Lingerie Must Die!

P.S. I was recently in Plaza Velbert on their "FKK Party" day, but nobody was nude.

Tjohoo

09-12-10, 19:59

Hello!

I am planning a visit to a flat rate club for the first time. I have made many visits to FKK/sauna clubs in NRW, and I really like the concept. I must confess that I am in to the younger type of women. Can anyone give me a hint on what flat rate club could be good for a newbee? The optic quality of the women are more important for me then the price.

Thank You!

T

Wanking

09-17-10, 17:35

http://www.sauna-club-bar-paradiso.de/

Site has been down for a few days now. If its closed I wouldn't be surprised as it was shit when I was there earlier this year.

Wanking

09-17-10, 18:32

http://www.partytreff-viersen.de now redirects to http://partytreff-mg-rheydt.de. So the Viersen club is now closed it appears. Wasnt a great place but I some ok times there.

Wanking

09-17-10, 18:45

Creature2

09-18-10, 13:34

http://www.pauschalclub.de/

Being a tech geek I am impressed with the way the Pauschal chain site now automatically converts to a mobile site when you enter it into a mobile browser.

Just enter pauschalclub.de into your Mobile phone browser and see what I mean.

When I tried it when I was in Pauschal Bochum, I couldn't see the full description of the girls via my mobile phone (I could see them earlier via mobile). It was handy to see each girls specifications, and to choose who will be the next one.

Wanking

09-19-10, 22:09

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=101156083971307420944.0004495b8a8dca16741fc&ll=51.45989,7.777162&spn=2.881713,7.404785&z=7

Just passed a 100,000 views on the old map. Seems to do around 200 views per day usually.

Wanking

09-21-10, 19:15

http://www.diva-diskretempfang.de/ owned by the La Luna people are running some flat rate bareback parties. Could be worth checking out..

Varenne have u any info on these parties?

Optimist

09-21-10, 21:18

Wanking - as does Spermastudio in Gelsenkirchen. It is like a budget GGG outfit

http://www.spermastudio.de/sperm

Varenne

09-21-10, 23:43

http://www.diva-diskretempfang.de/ owned by the La Luna people are running some flat rate bareback parties. Could be worth checking out..I'm not sure that Laluna and Diva-Diskretempfang are still connected, I rather think they have gone separate ways. Laluna is served by a RO/PL contingent, while in Diva-Diskretempfang work only Bulgarians.

According to the Diva-Diskretempfang site the flat-rate party grants one session with each girl for a total 120€. The site also lists only three girls as available, so we should currently expect a total of 3 sessions per party, if I'm not mistaken? The site also mentions that reinforcements from Varna (BG) are due to arrive at any time in late September, therefore the one session/girl flatrate offer might soon become more attractive, we'll see.

Keep an eye also an Laluna website, as they have announced on their forum that another flatrate event will soon take place (still no date is given, though). Details will decided according to the preferences expressed in a poll by visiting customers.

Wanking

09-22-10, 22:12

Keep an eye also an Laluna website, as they have announced on their forum that another flatrate event will soon take place (still no date is given, though). Details will decided according to the preferences expressed in a poll by visiting customers.

Man, what I would give to visit one of their flat rate parties!! Just checking their site, and there are some young babes there I would gladly stick my bare cock into, after giving their bottoms a good licking first.

http://club-laluna-moers.de/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=59:kasha&Itemid=56

http://club-laluna-moers.de/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=25:rebecca&Itemid=56

Angus Magee

09-24-10, 17:10

October's Monger I admire is posted. Check who it is on the blog.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=465

AM

Wanking

09-25-10, 02:23

October's Monger I admire is posted. Check who it is on the blog.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=465

AM

I must read back through my reports cos I'm sure I met another lady more recently who also had a whopper of a hemorrhoid in some other partytreff. Maybe it was last year.

Starchild2012

09-25-10, 10:49

October's Monger I admire is posted. Check who it is on the blog.

http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=465

AM

Hey Angus, i love reading your blog, but as my tref is mostly in Asia, with a plan for Germany in coming months. I hope i don't miss any post from the blog. I tried to subscribe the RSS feed you have on top of the blog. But, it was not working.

Could you please check. Thank you.

Angus Magee

09-25-10, 22:38

Hey Angus, i love reading your blog, but as my tref is mostly in Asia, with a plan for Germany in coming months. I hope i don't miss any post from the blog. I tried to subscribe the RSS feed you have on top of the blog. But, it was not working.

Could you please check. Thank you.

Hi Star-Oh that is on my list for my next visit with my IT expert. These things (the tech-y details) are a big challenge to me. I got the buttons there by myself but have not been able to get the damn thing working. Maybe this week I will visit the IT guy and we will hook it up.

Thanks for being a faithful reader. Good to know you are out there and such feed back spurs me on.

AM

Starchild2012

09-26-10, 06:54

Hi Star-Oh that is on my list for my next visit with my IT expert. These things (the tech-y details) are a big challenge to me. I got the buttons there by myself but have not been able to get the damn thing working. Maybe this week I will visit the IT guy and we will hook it up.

Thanks for being a faithful reader. Good to know you are out there and such feed back spurs me on.

AM

Thanks Angus

DFWdude

09-30-10, 02:23

Woofiee

09-30-10, 13:39

I am planning on renting a car for my big trip next month, I plan on also including a GPS. Will the GPS unit give directions in English language with voice commands? The main reason for the rental is to hit Dolce Vita Raucbach.
Most GPS systems have an English/British voice. If you get a TomTom, I've never seen one without English.

Gggfan

09-30-10, 18:54

Wanking - as does Spermastudio in Gelsenkirchen. It is like a budget GGG outfit

http://www.spermastudio.de/spermI always wondered how these parties were. I have seen many of the videos they sometimes shoot during these gangbangs and they are really really hot (for a cum/bareback/creampie-junkie).

Another site organising regular bareback gangbangs is http://gang-bang-party.de/

Iseeu

09-30-10, 20:28

I am planning on renting a car for my big trip next month, I plan on also including a GPS. Will the GPS unit give directions in English language with voice commands?
When you pick up the car, ask the attendant to make sure that the language on the device is set to English. In most cases, it takes all of 30 seconds and then the entire interface will be in English as well as the voice commands.

Wanking

10-02-10, 19:39

Most clubs now pay their girls 10 euro per 20 minute session, and it seems to a formula that works well for both the girls and the club. It also works great for the customer since once you pay the entry fee there is no limit to the number of sessions you can have within the the time limit you pay for.

In the case of clubs like the Harem chain, most guys opt for the €100 - 3 hour deal and usually go to the room an average of 3 times. So the club make €70 profit on these guys which is great for the club.

Now when guys like Col bog or I turn up, and pay €150 for 12 hours entry and end up going to the room 15 or 20 times, well its not so good for the club obviously, but we seem to be rare, so overall the club makes lots of profit.

Now take a club like Partytreff Palace, they only charge €79 for all day entry, and they still pay their girls €10 per session, so obviously the club lose money on a guy like me when I go to the room 15 times.

But most guys visiting Palace take the shorter time deals, either one hour @ €45, where they only go to the room once or twice, or the 3 hour deal @ €59 where they average 3 visits to the room. So with these deals the club is making money, and I suppose they dont mind putting up with the odd horny sex tourist even if they lose money on that particular customer. Bottom line is that if they are busy enough they are making profit.

The sex for sale business is changing in Germany forsure, where in the past, guys went to local brothels and it was all about extracting a good profit from each customer like in an expensive restaurant, now its about high turnover like a Supermarket.

Long live the German supermarket style sex for sale business model cos it works for me!!!

PS the only real difference I could tell between Harem Erkrath and Palace which is nearly 1/2 the price is that Harem serve better food, have a slightly better facility and are closer to a large city (Dusseldorf). Palace is certainly better value for money, although a day in Harem @ €150 is good too if you eat lots (pussy and food)

Creature2

10-03-10, 08:12

The sex for sale business is changing in Germany forsure, where in the past, guys went to local brothels and it was all about extracting a good profit from each customer like in an expensive restaurant, now its about high turnover like a Supermarket.

Long live the German supermarket style sex for sale business model cos it works for me!!!

I never see the same business model across Europe and the price ratio is unreachable and unmatchable, too, all over Europe. Last week, I went to Mallorca, the island that lots of German tourist go (but not for sex, they have cheaper sex in their home land). We also try to see thr p4p scene in the island. It is much more higher than Spain and Germany. In the clubs, the lowest price for a 30 min fuck we could find was 150 Euro. The leader of our group spent more than thousand Euro for a group lap dance and for a social time with girls. After that, a people from the group had a fuck for 100 Euro. That was the bottom end of the price, for that club in Palma, I didn't spend because I know I can have a whole day full of fun and sex with the amount of money, in Germany, in a next visit :)

Col Bog 1

10-03-10, 23:18

...

Now when guys like Col bog or I turn up, and pay €150 for 12 hours entry and end up going to the room 15 or 20 times, well its not so good for the club obviously, but we seem to be rare, so overall the club makes lots of profit.15 times! I whish I could.

If I remember well my personal record must be 12.

But still it might be a good idea to try to beat that record.

I should have a second pill after 6 hours and probably restrain the duration of each session, otherwise my poor body would not be able to stand so much sex.

15 times 20 minutes makes 5 hours! I'm not Superman.

There's something more, of course I suppose that most of us like to do as many girls as we can, especially if they are between 5 and 8 Ladies. Then I want to make them all. But when there are 20 or 25 girls in a PT, I know I won't be able to do them all.

Then comes the quality parameter. What about the reward having a girl staying with you 45 or 60 minutes in the room knowing she will not receive more than 10€ from the brothel?

I'd say that I even prefer this as to do, so fast (and so bad?), many girls.

Then, it's even better for everyone:

The customer is proud to interest the girl that will stay with him without watching time.

The girl is happy to have a good time with a nice guy.

The brothel is happy because you're in the room for a long time and you "only" cost them 10€.

Only bad point is the other customer waiting for your girl. He has to be patient.

Cheers

Wanking

10-08-10, 14:10

Hi folks.

This is what I have on my mind:

Thursday 6pm till 5am Harem Erkrath

Friday 10am till 03 am PT Palace Gladbeck

Saturday 12pm till 5pm, Dolce Vita Raubach

I have no idea if I can stand so much with almost no sleep.

I'll see and tell you.

Anyone interested to join?

Cheers

Wonder how Col Bogs crazy trip is going? He should be in partytreff Palace now, after staying in harem till 5 am this morning!

Wanking

10-08-10, 14:33

http://www.partytreff36.de/

Saw it here http://www.pauschalclubs.com/blog

Dark Vader

10-08-10, 17:56

Jerboa

10-08-10, 21:17

http://www.partytreff36.de/

Saw it here http://www.pauschalclubs.com/blog

The PT site Is down, but I see from the blog they are looking for staff, place should be up and running soon by the sound of It.

Angus Magee

10-09-10, 09:40

This is a bit old this article about the flat rate system and how the authorities want to put the kibosh on it.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4518767,00.html

I post it as the owner of the now defunct Pussy Clubs states. "It simply brings in more customers. Hardly anyone can 'do it' more than twice. So basically the flat rate is mostly for the free beer,".

She obviously did not count on the ISG's Wanking as a customer. ;)

AM

Ccseeka

10-09-10, 14:38

Did a short trip last week

Was to originally do five days which would have also included a visit to some clubs in Belgium.

Had to cut the trip to a few days so only managed to get in the following.

PT Krefeld (different set up and management)

PT MG

Pumba K

10-09-10, 23:52

The PT site Is down, but I see from the blog they are looking for staff, place should be up and running soon by the sound of It.Seems to be up and running, but they are being safe and not posting any further info.

Max #01

10-12-10, 02:10

Somehow, I came in contact with some poison ivy over the long Columbus Day weekend here in the US and it's all over my face and, you guessed it, my "plumbing." (The oils must have been spread while on my hands while I relieved myself.) I have a business trip to Germany booked for Oct 17th and I simply can't partake while looking like an alien with oozing blisters all over my face and manhood. I'm going to the doctor tomorrow, hoping she (yes, "she") can prescribe something which will make the blisters dry up and go away quickly.

I'm not looking for medical advice, unless someone has any. I just need sympathy in case I travel to paradise and can't partake of any FKKs or PTs.

Crap

Wanking

10-12-10, 18:56

Kiwi 69

10-13-10, 20:43

Spanish Main

10-14-10, 15:36

Donziman

10-14-10, 17:18

You cannot beat NRW for value anywhere. Hope to go partytreffing next month. Good value still on the Costa del Sol mind - 30 - 40 euro will still get you great half an hour if you know where to look...And just where might that be on Costa del Sol?

DFWdude

10-16-10, 16:30

Max #01

10-16-10, 17:21

It couldn't hurt to Google "poison ivy treatments".

Just maybe there are some old "hand me down " treatment recommendations.

Nothing ventured.

I went to see the nurse practitioner last Tuesday. She gave me prednisone which was, for all intents & purposes, a miracle drug. Everything, except for some dry skin (like a sunburn) has completely healed. PTs, here I come!

BTW, as fast and as thorough as this steroid worked, I can clearly see why athletes use it to cheat and heal quickly.

Max #01

10-16-10, 17:25

I've been curious about this place for quite a while. It looks more like a swingers club that admits a certain number of single guys. They are having a GB on Monday night. I used the auto translate feature on Google Chrome to read the website and figured that you had to send an email requesting an invitation. I sent an email early last week both in English and German (Google translator is your friend!), but never heard back.

Just wondering if anyone has ever been to one of his GBs or other types of parties. If so, is it worth it and how do you get them to respond to an invitation request?

Thanks -- Max

http://www.joekreutzers.net/

Starchild2012

10-18-10, 14:26

http://www.partytreff36.de/

Saw it here http://www.pauschalclubs.com/blog

Partytreff36 front picture of girls are actually from a Korean Band SNSD or girls generation. They are very popular in Asia and i don't think they would ever need to go to Germany to make some money :)

They are like Pussycat dolls or better like LadyGaga in popularity in Korea.

check out their video here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ

more pics attached....May be its just marketing...but don't get it when there are 100's of beautiful girls in Europe why would they pick koreans for front picture :)

Spanish Main

10-18-10, 17:06

And just where might that be on Costa del Sol?

Just check out the Malaga and Costa del Sol threads in Spain. Look in the Classified section if wish to use me as your guide.

You will see other satisfied members of our forum have recommended me. I can organise everything for you much cheaper than a normal taxi/guide service and know where some good girls are. I know how to stop you being ripped off as a tourist, can therefore save you money, act as a translator and give you a companion that is good fun to be with.

It is still 25 degrees here too!

Wanking

10-19-10, 17:10

http://www.hauspanthera.de/events.html?5195b89f52891dc8143fdf5b04865f1d=d625e25419da8b06d601750e7b045c1c

Seems to be a 5 hour deal for €100.

Any Info?

Qp 001

10-20-10, 01:25

I don't know for the GB event but panthera and Blue Note in Dusseldorf-rath belong to the same owner.

Varenne

10-21-10, 14:33

Less than a week till my trip, still can't find a sex party, gb, or a kino sex party either in the nrw area or Frankfurt. AO is preferred, don't care if its filmed. I am in those areas the 21st-26th. If anyone knows of any parties let me know.Blue Heaven (http://www.blueheaven-gelsenkirchen.de/) in Gelsenkirchen hosts an American Bukkake on 24th for 39.50 €. Since they use the same logo, I wonder if this is one of those events which will be published on the AmerikanBukkake (http://www.americanbukkake.com/) site?

Wanking

10-22-10, 17:35

In my humble opinion, the whole PT scene is very hit and miss, although most clubs that we discuss here seem to have some ladies that offer decent service, but the problem is you may have to work through many unenthusiastic hags before you find them.

I had been planning possibly repeating Dorsten on my upcoming trip but due to the poor day DFWdude had there yesterday I might not bother.

Also was thinking about Palace Gladbeck as I had an ok day there before, but due to the overall shabbiness of the place, I wouldn't be surprised if the heat was off when I arrive. Also lack of food is off putting for a guy like me who likes to stay all day.

Harem Erkraht - Yeah we have had poor reports here recently, but at least they have good food, and the building is upscale. Plus there always seem to be a few women who perform well there. Also Col Bog managed to bareback 2 ladies there. I am the first to admit that its far from perfect there though.

I really wish someone would open a perfect club. Have 10 or 15 good looking women who give good service, and great facilities including a nice hot clean whirlpool. Even if they charged €200 for a day rate it would be worth it, if the overall experience lived up to the promise.

Woofiee

10-25-10, 10:08

In my humble opinion, the whole PT scene is very hit and miss, although most clubs that we discuss here seem to have some ladies that offer decent service, but the problem is you may have to work through many unenthusiastic hags before you find them.

I had been planning possibly repeating Dorsten on my upcoming trip but due to the poor day DFWdude had there yesterday I might not bother.
Agreed - after a pretty decent day at PT Plaza in Velbert in August, I went back a month later and the place looked like they hadn't cleaned it since. The girls all seemed to have gained 30kg except for a pair who always hid away. Dump - pity too, because the first time it was worth the drive from Amsterdam. Now, I wouldn't drive there from Essen.

I really wish someone would open a perfect club. Have 10 or 15 good looking women who give good service, and great facilities including a nice hot clean whirlpool. Even if they charged €200 for a day rate it would be worth it, if the overall experience lived up to the promise.

Absolutely - even better if they spoke english. Just make sure there's none of that upselling crap..nothing makes me break off a session faster.

Wanking

10-29-10, 20:43

I thought I saw mentioned somewhere that they do flat rate days? I dont see any mention of Flat rate on the site. http://www.fkk-arabella.com

I do see mentionof AO (bareback) and 4 sessions costing €80.

Any info on the bareback or flatrate????

Varenne

10-30-10, 00:58

Any info on the bareback or flatrate????They did had a flatrate option for some time: 100€/3h or 150€/unlimited. The flatrate fee only included basic service (which in Arabella already includes kissing and CIM, not sure about anal), extras had to be paid separately, as for single sessions. I think flatrate was never popular due to the cheap price of single sessions. With 100€ you could buy a 4x bundle, and still pay a further single session @20€ (not sure if it's officially allowed, but it's actually customary to pay directly to the girl in this case). So a total of 5 sessions and unlimited stay. How many customers can really manage to have more than 5 sessions in the 3 hours granted by the basic flat rate option? And with 160€ you could buy 2x4=8 sessions, and still have the option to leave after 4 session and cut costs if the line up is not that good. So also the 150€ option was not that attractive. I'd also add that this is not a club where you like to spend a whole day (rather small, dark, little food, just a sauna and a small garden).

Bareback is offered about by half of the girls (mostly by Bulgarians or Romanians, while the Germans and Polish usually don't offer BB) at 30€ surcharge. A session is officially limited to 20', but im my experience if the girl let's you exceed this time limit without complaints, she will never charge you two sessions.

Wanking

10-30-10, 01:05

Hi Varenne,

are there any other bareback parties that you know of in the NRW that I could go to on November 9th?

thanks
Fred

Max #01

10-30-10, 01:14

Hi Varenne,

are there any other bareback parties that you know of in the NRW that I could go to on November 9th?

thanks
Fred

Wanking -- I went to DVR a couple of weeks ago and had a great time -- my first BB experience in Germany. I would have done any girl in the place. BB is the baseline, unless you ask for a raincoat.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1084795&postcount=3431

Wanking

10-30-10, 18:17

http://partytreffmoulinrouge.de/

Run by the people behind the now closed PT Cat Club. Looks like they are trying to attract swingers.

Spanish Main

11-01-10, 09:48

Fantastic!

First of all, thanks to WK for taking the time to give us such a valuable guide posted in the forum Organisation thread.

A surprise to me is how many partytreffs there are and how few our members have visited.

Is it because we are all keeping to the well-trodden path of Mettman and Dorsten and so on? Some of the clubs on WK´s list seem to offer CIM and anal as standard. Can we believe this or are these just ploys to get us there?

Even if they have not been personally visited, has anyone any info from other forums or friends about some of the other clubs. I am trying to organise a trip at the moment with SoHappy and would like to try something different.

Local Visitor

11-03-10, 19:57

Guys, and specially Wan King, where do you recommend for PT around Dusseldorf for anal action?

Thankx for the maps, great.

Iseeu

11-04-10, 07:48

Dark Vader

11-04-10, 12:26

A Question: I'm staying in MG, have meetings all day and won't be free until late afternoon/early evening. Beverly or Mettmann are usually good options for me, then thought maybe I’ll try out the new version of Krefeld for old time’s sake but then thought I'd ask your collective opinion.
If you could choose the current best PT in that area (70 km radius) for service, with price not an issue, which one would it be? MG? Globe? Harem E or Harem D? Or would it be one of the clubs further away like Dorsten or Bochum?
I'd be inclined to give Globe a try as I thought it was pretty good when I was there a few months back and am thinking of going back there myself later on this month.

Need to bear in mind though that there's no public action there.

Wanking

11-04-10, 13:17

A Question: I'm staying in MG, have meetings all day and won't be free until late afternoon/early evening. Beverly or Mettmann are usually good options for me, then thought maybe I’ll try out the new version of Krefeld for old time’s sake but then thought I'd ask your collective opinion.
If you could choose the current best PT in that area (70 km radius) for service, with price not an issue, which one would it be? MG? Globe? Harem E or Harem D? Or would it be one of the clubs further away like Dorsten or Bochum?

http://schneewittchen-viersen.de/ might be worth be worth a look as it seems improved over its previous incarnation: Partyclub NRW. Also this club is only about 10km or less from MG.

Wanking

11-04-10, 13:24

Guys, and specially Wan King, where do you recommend for PT around Dusseldorf for anal action?

Thankx for the maps, great.

Im no expert on the Anal situation in clubs as Its not something I seek out, although I do like to lick and finger the girls anus of course! Anal tends to be rare in most ordinary PTs, although its possible to find girls that will do it. Some clubs also have anal days, but even on these days usually only a few girls will partake.

If you visit Team Tabulos on a party day then you are guaranteed it from Eva anyway. Also Mettmann usually has one or two girls that offer it.

Also look thru my map and Im sure you find clubs that advertise Anal day.

NOTE Bare in mind that girls who perform Anal dont necessarily do it all the time, as It can be sore!

Myrrh

11-05-10, 19:22

Im no expert on the Anal situation in clubs as Its not something I seek out, although I do like to lick and finger the girls anus of course! Anal tends to be rare in most ordinary PTs, although its possible to find girls that will do it. Some clubs also have anal days, but even on these days usually only a few girls will partake.

If you visit Team Tabulos on a party day then you are guaranteed it from Eva anyway. Also Mettmann usually has one or two girls that offer it.

Also look thru my map and Im sure you find clubs that advertise Anal day.

NOTE Bare in mind that girls who perform Anal dont necessarily do it all the time, as It can be sore!I am not sure that anal sex is all it is cracked up to be to be honest. As well as the possibilities of getting chocolate on your fudge stick or dislodging a bit of loose or impacted stool, it can actually be quite difficult to carry it out in practise.

I recall one time in Thailand when I paid for three women and one of them kept reiterating over and over again that she was desperate for me to do her ass.

But in the room I found it difficult to get my dick in. It was almost comical with her two colleagues holding and pulling aside one ass cheek each whilst I eagerly tried to cram myself in. She must have had quite a small ass hole (either that or my dick is above average in circumference) because I just could not get it in.

I was squeezing and rolling the head between two fingers to make it smaller and trying to slip and coax it in but to no avail. After a while I found I was beginning to sweat profusely with the effort. Eventually I had to admit defeat much to the disappointment of the girls.

There are few things worse than some girl absolutely eager for you to shag her ass and you just not being able to get it in.

SvenFKK

11-06-10, 13:57

Is it because we are all keeping to the well-trodden path of Mettman and Dorsten and so on? Some of the clubs on WK's list seem to offer CIM and anal as standard. Can we believe this or are these just ploys to get us there?Dorsten used to be good, but I've crossed it off my list now (after 4 visits 2006-2010). Nothing comes close to Mettmann, except Sara's (now defunct) (and possibly the two best from Sara's now a duo at http://www.Sweetygirls-hagen. De/ which I plan to visit soon). CIM is standard at Mettmann and I have never been there when no anal was offered. (Not all girls do CIM at Mettmann, though most do. Those who don't are either incredibly beautiful or do anal (Katrin-no longer there-was one of the few women I've met who did anal regularly but no CIM). There are women like Ute who will swallow, spend an hour or two with you, do anything you want (except bareback anal or vaginal, which I don't want in a club) and make it a GFE as well. Why go elsewhere? I've visited many clubs and keep coming back to Mettmann.

Some say the women at Mettmann aren't as good as far as looks go. First, there are no real dogs and it's not that important. Second, not all women elsewhere are the best in looks. Third, with Jill, Joy etc there are incredibly beautiful women at Mettmann as well.

The best thing about Mettmann, apart from Ute who is the horniest woman on the planet, is that the atmosphere is great and that these are German women who genuinely want to be there and are not just doing it grudgingly (however well the acting might be) for the money.

SvenFKK

11-06-10, 13:58

I am not sure that anal sex is all it is cracked up to beGreat pun!

For me, the difference between anal and vaginal sex is not that big. The main advantage is that girls who do it are usually girls who really enjoy sex and so the whole experience is better.

Wanking

11-08-10, 16:30

As well as the possibilities of getting chocolate on your fudge stick or dislodging a bit of loose or impacted stool

I guess if you dislodge a bit of loose or impacted shit, you might be doing the girl a favour! Lol.

Wanking

11-08-10, 16:36

Since this club changed from PT NRW it looks improved and they have put the prices up. I rang the other night and the girl told me that they have a minimum of 10 girls every day. Some of the women on the site look ok. Plus they have free beer and have an indoor Jacuzzi.

http://schneewittchen-viersen.de

Anyone been there?

PS I actually called there last year when it was PT NRW but I did a runner after I saw some of the women who were at that time disgusting old hags, but I suspect things are better there now.

Ccseeka

11-10-10, 15:34

Weds. Nov. 17th I'll also be in NRW. Haven't decided yet between Globe, Mettmann, Beverly, Viersen or the sentimental favorite Krefeld.
PM if interested....Iseeu

Will post a report of Krefeld PT at the weekend, payed a visit back in early October.

But it is not the same old favourite I am afraid. A lot has changed on that front, much more a gentle place now.

TomRifle

11-10-10, 16:53

Is there Partytreff in Frankfurt? using Google I found only Fantasy partytreff but doesn't work on Thursday and I will be in Frankfurt only Thursday night.

Wanking

11-10-10, 18:54

http://partyclub-gelsenkirchen-buer.de/

Greeting from wet and miserable Gelsenkirchen,

Just did 7 hours in the PT.

Arrived at 11.15, to be told that NO AO (bareback) available today. Paid 75 for full day anyway. 7 girls, most pretty and most very young. Some of them are in the pic on the homepage.
2 girls offered bareback for 30 extra but I declined when it wasnt standard.

SO u CAN get bareback there for extra if you want.

Had 8 long sessions over the time and 6 were decent. No real clockwatching. Only 4 other customers in the 7 hours.

Only breadrolls and some cheap cold meat for food.

Overall not great, although certainly not terrible for 75 but I doubt I would repeat. By 6 pm the girls were ignoring me, so I left, need to eat a proper dinner anyway.

Ps Remind me to tell you all about the girl picking her nose and eating her snots all day!!!!!!!!!

Dark Vader

11-10-10, 20:21

Is there Partytreff in Frankfurt? using Google I found only Fantasy partytreff but doesn't work on Thursday and I will be in Frankfurt only Thursday night.
I presume that you've checked out WanKing's excellent map (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1086743&postcount=25)?

I don't know of any PT's in Frankfurt city itself since Treff 188 has now relocated but if you have transport then other clubs in the area include (although I've not see any recent reports) :-

Sex Discounter Hanau (der-sex-discounter.de) - was there last year; OK but not great
Treff 188 (treff-188.de/home.php) - their old location was crap but their new venue looks quite swish based on their site
Treff 29 (www.treff29.de/home.php)

The following clubs are nominally swinger's clubs but I know that the first two have paid women on site as both Creature2 and I have visited them in the past and so check the forum for our previous reports.
Maxis Swing (www.maxis-swing.de) - near the airport
Swing-In Rodgau (www.swing-in-rodgau.de) - reportedly have some new women on the staff
Susi & Juergen (www.susiundjuergen.de) - look to be holding events again but I don't think that they're open on Thursdays
Partykreis Airport (www.partykreis-airport.de) - near the airport

I will be in the area myself on Friday and am thinking of checking out Treff188 or Maxis Swing.

In any case have fun and be sure to report back!

Dark Vader

11-11-10, 00:22

http://partyclub-gelsenkirchen-buer.de/

Greeting from wet and miserable Gelsenkirchen,

Ps Remind me to tell you all about the girl picking her nose and eating her snots all day!!!!!!!!!For a tasty desert after licking her arse! LOL

Vinny Uk

11-11-10, 01:02

http://partyclub-gelsenkirchen-buer.de/

Greeting from wet and miserable Gelsenkirchen,

Just did 7 hours in the PT.

Arrived at 11.15, to be told that NO AO (bareback) available today. Paid 75 for full day anyway. 7 girls, most pretty and most very young. Some of them are in the pic on the homepage.

2 girls offered bareback for 30 extra but I declined when it wasnt standard.

SO u CAN get bareback there for extra if you want.

Had 8 long sessions over the time and 6 were decent. No real clockwatching. Only 4 other customers in the 7 hours.

Only breadrolls and some cheap cold meat for food.

Overall not great, although certainly not terrible for 75 but I doubt I would repeat. By 6 pm the girls were ignoring me, so I left, need to eat a proper dinner anyway.

Ps Remind me to tell you all about the girl picking her nose and eating her snots all day!!!!!!!!!Wk it will be my first trip to germany. Any advice on how to go from Dusseldorf to Bochum/Gladbeck on public transport withot paying a fortune?

Crm K

11-12-10, 12:58

Hi all,

First time posting. I tried visiting PC Dortmund for the first time about a week ago on a Tuesday. It was one of their French Total days. I got to the club around 1pm, a woman answered the door and said that it was a "private party" today. I asked her why that was, since the website said that it was a public day and she just gave me a namecard and told me to call before I visit next.

I was wondering if anyone else has experienced something like this? I'm an East Asian foreigner and I couldve been mistaken for being Turkish or Arab. Would this have anything to do with it? I did notice another person in the parking lot driving away as I was getting there, and the lot was fairly empty overall, so it mightve actually been a private party. I was planning on visiting again this coming Monday and don't want to waste my time if they arent going to let me in. Id really appreciate any help you guys could provide.

Thanks in advance!

Lovingit2

11-13-10, 18:25

Hi

I'm new here, I've had a look around and like the idea of either a pauscahlclub or swingers club tomorrow (sunday).

I know it's short notice but can someone recommend where I should head, I was looking at one of the Harem clubs and the region around (the closer to the Holland the easier it will be for me to get there).

As you can tell I'm a noob when it comes to these clubs

Travel69

11-14-10, 16:56

It is clear that the club refuse you to enter because of your race. I think it have been report before for this club. It is normal in germany. It depend club and door man. Sometime also depends on how full in the cub.

Hi all,

First time posting. I tried visiting PC Dortmund for the first time about a week ago on a Tuesday. It was one of their French Total days. I got to the club around 1pm, a woman answered the door and said that it was a "private party" today. I asked her why that was, since the website said that it was a public day and she just gave me a namecard and told me to call before I visit next.

I was wondering if anyone else has experienced something like this? I'm an East Asian foreigner and I couldve been mistaken for being Turkish or Arab. Would this have anything to do with it? I did notice another person in the parking lot driving away as I was getting there, and the lot was fairly empty overall, so it mightve actually been a private party. I was planning on visiting again this coming Monday and don't want to waste my time if they arent going to let me in. Id really appreciate any help you guys could provide.

Thanks in advance!

TomRifle

11-16-10, 23:23

Treff 188 (treff-188.de/home.php) - their old location was crap but their new venue looks quite swish based on their site
!

Treff 188 has very good report and looks like very good cheaper alternative to FKK:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=883134&postcount=2697

Also it is open late till 2 am which is important for me as I arrive in the evening at FRA.

But is it possible to reach their new location via public transport? Or only option is taxi from the airport?

Also I speak only English. Do you think this would be a problem to get good sex with the ladies?

Dark Vader

11-17-10, 00:58

Treff 188 has very good report and looks like very good cheaper alternative to FKK:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=883134&postcount=2697

Also it is open late till 2 am which is important for me as I arrive in the evening at FRA.
Hi I was there last week and having had a reasonable time when I visited this club last year at their old location (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=906082&postcount=2762) I was hoping for a repeat performance but I have to say that I was frankly disappointed.

Although their new place is miles better than their old establishment, the service that I received was almost uniformly crap and it was obvious that some of the girls were trying to "dodge" me. I normally just let these things slide but towards the end I was pushed for time and so decided to just go for it which was a big mistake as later on in the room the girl told me that fucking was off the agenda and that she would only blow me and only a CBJ at that! Naturally I was a bit taken aback and of course it made the session a complete waste of time!

I'll post a fuller report in due course but suffice to say that I had a much better time with the MILFs at the two swinger clubs I visited later on.

Note as ever in this field YMMV and I may have too jaundiced a view as it was clear that a number of the regulars at the club were getting much better service than I and one of the guys that I got chatting to told me that he thought that this place was the best flat rate club in the area.

But is it possible to reach their new location via public transport? Or only option is taxi from the airport?I drove there but it should be easy enough to do it by public transport as Eschborn Süd S-Bahn is only about 1km away. Check out Rhein-Main-Verkehrsverbund (http://www.rmv.de/auskunft/bin/jp/query.exe/en?L=vs_rmv&)

Also I speak only English. Do you think this would be a problem to get good sex with the ladies?You should be OK as they'll know why you're there! A couple of the girls spoke English as did some of the punters. "Good" sex may be more of a problem though because as you know the sex is usually better if you can communicate with the girls.

Mrknowitall

11-18-10, 06:54

I love orgies!

Lets get a list going of the places that have ONLY (or mostly) Public Group Sex:

#1 Partytreff Mettman (personal favorite!)
#2 Partytreff Dorsten
#3 Erotic Disco Beverly (Solingen-Burg)
#4 Boese Partys Cologne (http://boesepartys.de/)

OK, just a start, please contribute to the Orgy List!

Dark Vader

11-18-10, 09:38

http://www.fkk-coconut.de/ which looks to be part of the http://poppstall.de/ franchise

I wonder whether its fkk heritage will be reflected in the quality of its staff?

We need a field report ...

Max #01

11-23-10, 16:12

DV,

I wasn't aware that they had re-opened in a new location. I had been to their old location a 3-4 times primarily because it was fairly close to where I was staying. Having said that, I'm glad I invested in the long drives and GPS rentals to visit DVR and Mettmann.

It seemed as if the enthusiasm of the ladies deteriorated with each visit I made. For the most part, someone spoke enough English to make me feel like I was part of the party. But, it was clear that you needed to speak German in order to have a good experience. I also got the strong impression that most, if not all, of the ladies and mongers were "regulars."

My last visit right before they closed was almost exactly as you described. The 3-4 girls were pretty much not interested in sex with anybody. I don't know if this was a result of knowing that they were going to close or what.

Too bad -- the Frankfurt area desperately needs a couple of NRW-quality PTs.

Different question: Which swinger clubs have you had success at? I've tried Joe Kruetzers in Darmstadt and a couple near Mainz (I think) with zero success. I went to a GB night at JK's back in October. There were 3 ladies, all of whom were 50+, and about 12 guys. About half of the guys participated in GB sessions and the other half just sat there and watched. None of the ladies came close to arousing my interest, so I left after about 30 minutes and spent way too much money at Sharks on the other side of town. (Oops -- Sorry -- I just scrolled to the next page and saw your list of swinger clubs.)

Wanking

11-24-10, 23:33

€50 for 5 hours, now that is cheap, even if its not great.

http://partyhaus-krefeld.de/

Wanking

11-24-10, 23:39

http://partytreff-mg-rheydt.de Supposed to be a bareback party this Thursday and I see some of the same girls from http://partyclub-gelsenkirchen-buer.de

Wanking

11-25-10, 23:06

http://www.harem-platinum.de

From 1st Dec they are changing back to a 12 hour day, opening from 12pm to 12am. Also something about having more women.

Wanking

11-25-10, 23:16

Dark Vader

11-26-10, 02:23

http://www.partytreff-palace.de/bilder/pixlie.php?action=showpic&pfad=AMBIENTE-INDOOR&bild=2+%281%29.JPG

Appears that the new pool is now complete. I saw the construction when I was there 2 weeks ago. I was told it was going to be a whirlpool. Would have preferred a whirlpool. Anyway its only a minor detail in the big scheme of things.
Yes the pool is there now but as the water was freezing code it wasn't getting much use (make that NO use) when I was there on Wednesday. Mind you it will probably be a hit in summer.

Dark Vader

12-01-10, 18:29

Dany Sun and Lea Blow will be doing a photo shoot in NRW next week. Crowd participation also allowed apparently so not bad value for E25. See http://www.fotoorgie.com/

I recall having a few sessions with Dany last year in PT DV

Col Bog 1

12-01-10, 18:55

Team Tabulose on Party days : http://team-tabulos.de/
And it's not only public but it's real group sex with sandwich.

I love orgies!

Lets get a list going of the places that have ONLY (or mostly) Public Group Sex:

#1 Partytreff Mettman (personal favorite!)
#2 Partytreff Dorsten
#3 Erotic Disco Beverly (Solingen-Burg)
#4 Boese Partys Cologne (http://boesepartys.de/)

OK, just a start, please contribute to the Orgy List!

Wanking

12-01-10, 20:13

Anyone know the address of http://www.spermastudio.de in Gelsenkirchen?

I want to add it to my map.

Varenne

12-01-10, 22:58

Anyone know the address of http://www.spermastudio.de in Gelsenkirchen?
Here (http://www.mietstudio-nrw.de/studio/component/seminar/?task=3&cid=11) is specified the location where their next scheduled event will take place. I think they always rent this studio for their events in Gelsenkirchen, but it's just a guess.

Wanking

12-08-10, 14:27

Well Congrads to Jackson on the new forum upgrade. Certainly looks much nicer. I also heard a rumor that senior members will be able to add our own Threads, but I see that isn't working as of yet.

Angus Magee

12-08-10, 14:30

Well Congrads to Jackson on the new forum upgrade. Certainly looks much nicer. I also heard a rumor that senior members will be able to add out own Threads, but I see that isn't working as of yet.Agree. I like the new look. I have noticed a few places that need tweaking though. For instance, the new posts come up at the top when you sign in. But threads such as this one, General Info, do not say General Info from where? So I have to open the thread to find out which General Info it is. I am sure Jackson is working on these small details.

Over all I would have to say the new look is first class.

AM

Wanking

12-12-10, 20:09

I thought we would be able to add new threads with the recent forum software upgrade. Therefore we could have a thread for each club. Anyone know anything about this?

Dark Vader

12-13-10, 01:05

Just back from doing 5 clubs in 3 days and all in all it was a great trip and a good way to finish off my mongering year.

I did :-

Sweetygirls Hagen and Caesars on Friday (although I almost didn't make it to Caesars as I got my rental car stuck in the snow for over an hour before a kind elderly couple helped push me out but that's another story!) Mettman's Nikolaus Party on Saturday Before finishing off at Die Giele Maus and Partytreff Dortmund today (well yesterday now)

The highlight of the trip was undoubtedly Mettman and I can heartily recommend their two new members of staff Lea and Rita (you've got to admire a girl who can take it up the arse with no complaint and NO LUBE).

One of the Mettman punters was recommending a Pauschalclub in Velbert to me but having done a quick search all I can come up with is Plaza which is part of the same group as Palace and so I think I'll suspend judgement on that for the time being.

Full reports as ever when I get some time

Sportsman

12-15-10, 11:35

I thought we would be able to add new threads with the recent forum software upgrade. Therefore we could have a thread for each club. Anyone know anything about this?WK, senior members can add new threads now. I just added couple of them sucessfully.

Wanking

12-15-10, 13:13

WK, senior members can add new threads now. I just added couple of them sucessfully.When you told me in a PM a couple of weeks ago, that you had been speaking to Jackson, and he said this feature would be available with the forum upgrade, I was very excited.

Then when the software was upgraded a few days ago, adding threads still didn't work, so I sent him a message yesterday and I suppose he switched on the feature.

Anyway It works now, so great that we can finally add a thread for each relevant club.

Mrknowitall

12-17-10, 17:48

Great Reference:

http://www.nrwerotik.com/Kontakte/partytermine.htm

http://www.nrwerotik.com

Creature2

12-20-10, 18:07

My last trip of 2010 was in mid-December, to NRW.

I went to Globe in Leverkusen, with a buddy of mine. We choosed four hours ticket and had enough fun with lots of nice girls and decent service in the rooms. The club is clean, the rooms are spacious, there are numerous girls who attact you and drag you to a room. And I believe the food is enough to keep you in form the whole day. Next time, I will take a whole day ticket, for 150 Euro. After our four hours limited time, we decided to leave and head to another place. Penelope of Essen and BelAmi of Dortmund were in the shortlist; we choosed to drive to Penelope because it was in a shorter distance and heavy snowfall has started again, in the evening.

Next day, I went to Harem, Erkrath, alone, where I met Economicus. I had to take a full day ticket because they didn't let me to choose first, three hours then the flexibility to upgrade, but no problem. This was my second time in Harem, Erkrath. My first time was nearly a year ago and this place wasn't change much since their opening. Even the thekefrau was the same shortish German blond girl. They didn't improve the line-up, too. There is always lots of dark skinned Bulgarian girls which are not my cup of tea and I don't bother that much to go to a room with. There was only a Hungarian girl Nina, and a Latvian blond beauty Veronica, who saved my day. The German Stella was also nice looking but seemed a bit distant, as previously discussed, so I couldn't connect with Stella this time. Economicus was a great personality. He has more and up to date knowledge in Harem line-up compared to mine, so he informed me which girls gives good service and which wasn't. I had a whole day and not many options, there were 10. 12 girls during the day and 60 percent of them was out of my target. In my first visit, there were a bunch of latinas who were more hot than the Bulgarians, last week, the only latina girl was Nuris, which service sucks. So, I mostly concentrated on Hungarian and Latvian girls. Later in the day, the boss though there were few girls in Erkrath and has brought 4 more girls from harem, Dormagen. All new Dormagen woman were fat dogs. This way, we had a preview of Dormagen line-up. If this reflect the common properties of Dormagen line-up, I don't give a shit to Dormagen, (last year, I rang and asked the prices, this way, I had a slight view of inside Harem Dormagen but wasn't convinced and didn't walked in) especially if you have a stiff competition with a short driving distance in Leverkusen.

So, for me, Harem Erkrath might be a hit and miss, if I meet all Bulgarian girls. Or might be a really fun day if I meet my dream girls like Nina and Veronica, they all DFK, very active in the bed, nice and long sessions overall and with a high repeat factor. But the problem in harem chain, they don't give you the flexibility to extend your stay after a few hours of preview. If I pay 150 Euro and saw only Bulgarian girls, I am totaly fucked up and I might left the place before my time expires, or vice versa, If I pay 100 Euro and saw the most beautiful girl of PT world, Veronica, and have only three hours in the club and she is always busy, and knowing that I can't extend, I am also screwed (of course, you can extend with 20 Euro / hour which is also nice. &305; f you click, then you can stay an additional 3 hours and you just concentrate to your favorite girls and you end up paying 160 Euro for 6 hours stay which is not that bad, too).

Having that knowledge, I believe, I visit Harem, Erkrath (and also maybe Dormagen, to see the real situation with my own eyes) in the next coming months but Globe is way better and would be my favorite club till next summer (they have a lovely garden and jacuzzi to relax and wait your next session). Pauschal Bochum and Pauschal Dortmund has also flexibility to extend your stay after your first three hours and I believe this is a good way to support customer satisfaction, in all terms, and those latter clubs gave you to see the line-up via web page, which girl will shows up that day.

I will report my time in Globe and Harem, Erkrath, in their new, proper threads, as usual, when I have enough time.

Creature2

12-20-10, 18:14

I really liked the new interface and I liked the flexibility to create your own thread for a new club. Other Partytreff section is no longer be utilised in such density. It was a pain in the ass to serach backwards, if you are looking into a specific information related to a single club. Now, it would be much easier and faster to receive information, for those of you who has limited time to look to the forum (for obvious reasons).

Maybe, this is not that crucial for our PT forum, but I think somebody will start threads for each popular girl of an FKK, like they have a very nice formular to describe a girl, in French forum.

Ccseeka

12-20-10, 18:20

Have come across this

Party Inn sister club.

http://www.partyinn-oschersleben.de/index.cfm/page/team.html

Was thinking 'great' it be of similar quantity of the well known one then saw the attendance list that they only have five girls most days.

Maybe as it is the Christmas period it's a smaller line up. Then again perhaps the girls are in the Hildesheim club from time to time anyway.

Creature2

12-21-10, 18:39

In early November, I attended a nice gangbang with three girls, in Berlin, Kreuzberg. But, I forget to state the adress of the gang-bang place. A fellow member asked me by PM, the exact adress, then I found out that I deleted all SMS text messages related to that gangbangs and all the details and so on. But last week, I landed one more time to Germany (to NRW, not Berlin) , so I utilised the same cell phone again and I received newcoming texts for new gang bang parties from the same guy. I even checked berlinintim and saw they continue the same gangbang event, in the same place.

http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Event/Sexparty-Berlin-15412.html

And the adress of the house is;

Franz Kunstler strasse 5, Kreuzberg, and when you go to the main door, you must ring a bell which has a name of "Efe". This should be the name of the Turkish guy who runs the house. The flat is on the first floor.

Creature2

12-21-10, 18:45

Mrknowitall

12-24-10, 14:23

So in my German class we had to go around and talk about ourselves and the country we were from, in German of course. When it got to this one Romanian dude, the teacher asked about the countries exports. He said not much was exported, there used to be a MAN Truck factory but that closed down.

All I could think about was all the Romanian working girls that they export. Now THAT is their leading export industry! ;-)

Myrrh

12-24-10, 22:07

Creature2

12-25-10, 16:07

Yes, it is getting a bit late to organise a trip but I was wondering whether anyone knew about any good parties in Partytreff clubs this New Years Eve.

The snow is thawing around Europe with flights taking off and landing again and I am thinking that if I am going to be miserable and cold during the festive season ithen it might as well be in Germany as once I am there then there is the real prospect of getting my dick well and truly wet in some wanton club orgy.

Any ideas? Money no object as this will be a one off.

Nothing like banging the old year out and the new year in, as the clock strikes midnight! In my opinion, Christmas season is not the best time to go to Germany, just for mongering. Some clubs are closed for a few days, some girls went to homeland for Christmas visits and you don't know what you will find when you visit a club, in this time. There were several bad reports made on this season. But, it is all up to you.

Millenia

12-30-10, 22:27

Its hard to believe that it was a year ago that I went to my first partytreff on New Year's Eve with Tuxmasher. It seems like last week. Anyway five straight days of sex. This was followed by another trip in early May for 5 days and one night and one day in August.

Prior to my trip I had only had sex with two women, one of whom was my beloved wife who died last year of cancer. I think the number is now an additional thirty. Not sure if I will get over again as I am trying to meet some women here. Also my doctor is telling me I'm playing Russian Roulette with bare back sex. Unfortunately this New Year's Eve will not be as great as last one.

Creature2

01-03-11, 15:33

This is the third day of the new year. It seems everybody popped well during the season and tired of sessioning. So, I would like to do the first short report of 2011 (which was dated in December 2010, actually) in Globe thread.

Galahaut

01-03-11, 15:46

Hello all,

Would like to attend a partytreff club during the daytime this week (Tues / Wed / Thu). I live near Roermond in Holland. Can anyone give me a recommendation of one to attend and any advice please for a new guy.

Thanks,

Galahaut

SvenFKK

01-04-11, 19:18

Would like to attend a partytreff club during the daytime this week (Tues / Wed / Thu). I live near Roermond in Holland. Can anyone give me a recommendation of one to attend and any advice please for a new guy.

It depends on what you want. If you want women who are genuine nymphomaniacs and also do a bit more, such.

As swallowing, anal sex and so on, visit Mettmann when Ute or Rita is there.

Customx

01-04-11, 23:25

I'm a veteran monger of multiple continents and a past trip reporter on ISG (most recently under previous registration Kahului). But my experience in Germany has been limited to the Hesse big 3 FKKs.

Plan 6 day trip in April and been doing my homework. Want to take the plunge into the PT world. But a bit confused. A few questions if you would all indulge me a bit:

* What are top 5 clubs you would go to in Cologne, Dussseldorf area if your criteria were numbers of girls and prevalence of public sex?

* The reviewers refer frequently refer to goijg to a room for the deed. Are those rooms open? In most PTs is it optional to perform in public or private?

* Always loved the public BJs and other activities in the Kinos in World, Palace and Oase. Liked watching and giving a show. Is the setup the same at the PTs?

I will certainly look for special events (gangbangs, Porn Stars etc.) when we get closer to the dates.

But special events aside it seems based on what I have read that I should be looking at Dorsten, Erkrath, Mettmann and Osnabruck? Am I missing any? Other suggestions? Money not a problem. Plan to stay in Dusseldorf area but could easily travel by train etc. (no car).

Many thanks for all your help. Cheers

Col Bog 1

01-05-11, 02:46

* What are top 5 clubs you would go to in Cologne, Dussseldorf area if your criteria were numbers of girls and prevalence of public sex?

* The reviewers refer frequently refer to goijg to a room for the deed. Are those rooms open? In most PTs is it optional to perform in public or private?

* Always loved the public BJs and other activities in the Kinos in World, Palace and Oase. Liked watching and giving a show. Is the setup the same at the PTs?

I will certainly look for special events (gangbangs, Porn Stars etc.) when we get closer to the dates.

But special events aside it seems based on what I have read that I should be looking at Dorsten, Erkrath, Mettmann and Osnabruck? Harem at Erkrath has almost no public action.

Tabulose team has public GangBang once or twice a month.

Gelsenkirchen Buer has some public action as well.

Most places will let you choose between private or public. There are very few clubs who only propose public sex. Mettman is the best I know for this.

Cheers

Tuxsmasher

01-05-11, 10:03

I've had a nice new year here with 3 partytreff visits, I'll do one more visit tomorrow, and report back,

Tuxsmasher

01-05-11, 12:38

Mrknowitall

01-07-11, 20:01

I will certainly look for special events (gangbangs, Porn Stars etc.) when we get closer to the dates.

But special events aside it seems based on what I have read that I should be looking at Dorsten, Erkrath, Mettmann and Osnabruck? Am I missing any? Other suggestions? Money not a problem. Plan to stay in Dusseldorf area but could easily travel by train etc. (no car).

If money is no problem, why not go to a FKK? Or are you specifically looking for public action, group sex and the like?

Here are my favorite event calandars:
http://www.nrwerotik.com/Kontakte/partytermine.htm
http://www.hotparty-nrw.de/partytermine/index.php

---
They call me Mr. KnowitAll. I will not compromise
I will not be told what to do, I shall not step aside.
-Primus 1990

Customx

01-07-11, 22:49

If money is no problem, why not go to a FKK? Or are you specifically looking for public action, group sex and the like?

Here are my favorite event calandars:

http://www.nrwerotik.com/Kontakte/partytermine.htm

http://www.hotparty-nrw.de/partytermine/index.php

-

They call me Mr. KnowitAll. I will not compromise

I will not be told what to do, I shall not step aside.

-Primus 1990Thank you Mr. KnowitAll. I will likely stop at a couple of the FKKs as wel, but wanted to try something differentl. And I am indeed looking for public sex. Appreciate your web site recommendations and will keep an eye on them as the dates get closer. But given my limited German language skills I suspect I would would feel more comfortable in a club than at a private party. In your opionion, which partytreff clubs offer theh largest numbers of girls and the most opportunity for public sex? Many thanks and happy hobbying.

Ccseeka

01-13-11, 16:51

Back from another trip.

A mixed one of real horror and real heaven.

I stumbled across the revamped site of partytreff-pulheim.

http://www.partytreff-pulheim.de/home.php

Thought the girls looked worth the punt and wanted to sample the delights of PATRICIA (see photo)

Judged by these looks the club maybe much improved since WK's visit. But no it was a real horror as none of the girls were present and would ever be.

The heaven is a visit to Globe before my flight. I wanted to do at least 5/6 hours but ended up knowing that there are no extra hours of 15/20 euros its either the four hours or all day. Also that there is a 20 minute before the time is up rule of going up to the rooms. But despite this I had a great time and will do the all day next trip.

I am becoming an old grumpy mongerer now and see the 70euros clubs as a waste of time. Maybe do Buer and Arena or Place next trip then its strictly the 150E clubs from then on.

Missed out on doing Bunny's as felt quite tired on evening arrival so only did the two clubs.

Reports to follow.

Ccseeka

01-13-11, 17:01

26th January Day: 3 hours at Mettman and then some kino action if I can find anything.

Evening: Orgy night at Beverly and then homeDark Vader

See you want to do some kino action unsure if you find any GB's on that date.

Would you consider in future to do a GB at this one in Duisburg.

http://www.erlebniskinos.com/

If only those girls in the photos were there!

Dark Vader

01-14-11, 00:24

Dark Vader

See you want to do some kino action unsure if you find any GB's on that date.

Would you consider in future to do a GB at this one in Duisburg.

http://www.erlebniskinos.com/

If only those girls in the photos were there! Thanks for the link. Those girls certainly look hot! I usually use the www.kinogirls.com site (formerly blowbox) to look for kino action.

Also glad to hear that the Globe is still OK as it's been getting some poor reports on the German forums so I've just gotta hope that it's not too crowded on Saturday.

Mrknowitall

01-14-11, 00:35

Dark Vader

See you want to do some kino action unsure if you find any GB's on that date.

Would you consider in future to do a GB at this one in Duisburg.

http://www.erlebniskinos.com/

If only those girls in the photos were there! I would not recommend one of these events at Erlebniskino. If you are a grumpy old monger now, you will be even grumpier after one of these events. It's way worse than a 70euro PartyTreff.

Ccseeka

01-17-11, 13:21

I would not recommend one of these events at Erlebniskino. If you are a grumpy old monger now, you will be even grumpier after one of these events. It's way worse than a 70euro PartyTreff.Maybe you are right about that it could be some old hag with no teeth. But then again may catch the GB on a good day with some nice looking MILF.

Can not vouch for this one like the kinogirls set up as they produce photos of the ladies.

Ccseeka

01-17-11, 13:24

Has anyone been to this club?

http://www.eichhörnchenbar.de

It is in Gummersbach.

It has a flatrate from 12 till 8pm Mondays to Saturdays for 100 euros.

Ccseeka

01-18-11, 19:59

From the site that mentioned Partytreff Pulheim was a bit more positive in December.

http://www.pauschalclubs.com/blog/

The latest Pulheim report is not positive. Shame I did not go back to the site a few days before the trip, that report appeared at that time. Had I have visited a different 70 euro place may have kept my faith in this price range of clubs. That report is difficult to understand in parts the translation but sounds negative anyway.

I was also eyeing up the PT in Titz Rödingen but at the time the website just had the address.

Now it has a familar layout and photos it is only the sister club to palace and Velbert!

http://club-odessa.de/index1.html

Creature2

01-19-11, 20:48

I am becoming an old grumpy mongerer now and see the 70euros clubs as a waste of time. Maybe do Buer and Arena or Place next trip then its strictly the 150E clubs from then on.

I am also at the same level of experince, knowledge and decision like yours. Cheaper clubs are waste of time and money, for me (Maybe this is different for someone else, who knows). That doesn't give me a thing. I had rather pass my time in a low cost FKK (Bel Ami, Salome, Penelope, Sauna Grimberg, Dolce Vita, Villa Marisol) or in a premium 150 Euro pauschal sauna club.

Mrknowitall

01-21-11, 08:51

Sad news. A botched tit job results in a heart attack and then a coma. She passed last night:

http://de.news.yahoo.com/34/20110120/twl-erotikdarstellerin-sexy-cora-gestorb-6ae0455.html

This is really too bad, as I she was really getting going in the PT scene with the theemed gangbangs. Now I really wish I would have went with her and her driver to Dormengen from Erkrath. Well, Erkrath will always be a special night for me.

Mrknowitall

01-21-11, 12:08

Jerboa

02-03-11, 00:29

Gergiev

02-04-11, 02:59

145652

Sad news. A botched tit job results in a heart attack and then a coma.
Yes very sad news, she was so young, the doctors must have some blame.Yes, a similar story with my favourite Innsbruck lady, the legendary Moni.

Crossed the border into Hungary last July to get some work done on her body at approx one-third the price of the same job at home.

Collapsed in her house shortly after returning and found dead later on that day by her mother.

Cardiac arrest brought on by blood poisoning contracted during operation.

Probably the most famous Schmetterling (escort) in all of Austria but RIP at 48 due to her obsession with trying to keep her youthful beauty.

It really is too bad.

Dark Vader

02-07-11, 12:58

Opens tomorrow.

http://partytreff-emmerich.de/

Not too far from the Dutch border and so no doubt our Dutch colleagues will give us their verdict soon

Varenne

02-07-11, 20:47

Opens tomorrow.

http://partytreff-emmerich.de/Girl pictures are definitely the same as in.

Partyclub Gelsenkirchen-buer (http://partyclub-gelsenkirchen-buer.de/)

The place is probably owned by the same guy who already runs Partyclub Gelsenkirchen-buer, Cleopatra-Arena, Krefeld Partyhaus, Partytreff MG-Rheydt. Any place I forgot to mention?

Wanking

02-12-11, 17:58

Just back from a mongering trip to SE Asia and whilst I had a good time it was depressing to find how the depreciation in the value of my home currency had increased the pussy price (albeit still relatively cheap) but it just served to re-emphasize what cracking value PTs are these days. By way of example:

Singapore. Geylang parlour : mediocre one-shot session. €53.

Singapore. Orchard Towers : two-shot overnighter with a PRC chick. €165.

Jakarta. MP : one-shot body massage session. €25.

Jakarta : overnighter with a bar girl. €60.

Philippines. Cebu : overnighter with a bar girl. €30. €45.

Philippines. Angeles : short-time session with a bar girl. €12.

Philippines. Angeles : overnighter with a bar girl. €20.

So weather aside an all day session in a good PT for €100. €150 has a certain appeal. Got to agree with you there DV, I am just returned from almost 3 weeks Pattaya in Thailand and man is it getting expensive there! Total cost of trip was €3500, and while I did have a great time but for that money I could do around 6 x 3-4 day partytreff trips. Then there is the fucking long bloody flight to Thailand and the week of Jet Lag when you arrive, and the week of Jet Lag and depression when you come home.

Obviously going to Thailand and going to Germany are very different kinds of sex holidays, and its not possible to do a direct comparison, but if you go to a partytreff like Palace and fuck 10 or 15 women for €77 in the day, it is a lot cheaper per woman than the €12.50 short time rate for a girl from the Beach road in Pattaya, even if the average service in Pattaya is better.

In fact in Pattaya at the moment, it is very easy to spend almost a €100 on a good looking girl for a 24 hour period. Most good looking women there want 2000 baht for 24 hours, (€50) and its very easy to blow another €50 on drinks / food / entertainment / little presents etc.

Its great for us that the Germans are a mean bunch financially and don't like paying too much for their sex, because it keeps the prices of the flat rate clubs down. €75- €150 is still a great rate for a day of sex, even if the service is not always the best.

Jerboa

02-19-11, 23:00

Got to agree with you there DV, I am just returned from almost 3 weeks Pattaya in Thailand and man is it getting expensive there! Total cost of trip was €3500, and while I did have a great time but for that money I could do around 6 x 3-4 day partytreff trips. Then there is the fucking long bloody flight to Thailand and the week of Jet Lag when you arrive, and the week of Jet Lag and depression when you come home.

Obviously going to Thailand and going to Germany are very different kinds of sex holidays, and its not possible to do a direct comparison, but if you go to a partytreff like Palace and fuck 10 or 15 women for €77 in the day, it is a lot cheaper per woman than the €12. 50 short time rate for a girl from the Beach road in Pattaya, even if the average service in Pattaya is better.

In fact in Pattaya at the moment, it is very easy to spend almost a €100 on a good looking girl for a 24 hour period. Most good looking women there want 2000 baht for 24 hours, (€50) and its very easy to blow another €50 on drinks / food / entertainment / little presents etc.

Its great for us that the Germans are a mean bunch financially and don't like paying too much for their sex, because it keeps the prices of the flat rate clubs down. €75- €150 is still a great rate for a day of sex, even if the service is not always the best. That's true the costs In Thailand have gone up, and our exchange rates gone down, I haven't been back since '09 stuck to Germany and other countries, I enjoy Germany but for me nothing compares to Thailand, I need to get back there soon. Are you posting a report on your trip Wanking?

Myrrh

02-21-11, 00:42

'Ho many' is still relatively undiscovered at present. In fact whenever I mention partytreffs to mates they look genuinely puzzled and are generally amazed that there is such a thriving 'pay for play' scene only 2 hours plane ride away and they knew nothing about it. These guys are of course familiar with Amsterdam, Prague, Riga and when you mention Thailand then almost all will know it as a sex tourist place.

Unfortunately, Pattaya is now over discovered. It used to be only busy during the high season but now almost all year round there will be hordes of young guys flocking there for easy, cheap sex. It is no longer the place that only middle-aged divorcees go to find their Thai 'mail order' bride. Also, the catchment area for Thailand is literally the whole world including US, Australia and Japan whereas in Germany it is mainly Dutch or the English who make up the foreign contingent. Last but not least the internet coverage is wall-to-wall for Pattaya / Bangkok whereas there is very little media exposure for the Partytreff / FKK scene.

There are tens of thousands of girls available on any one night in Pattaya but sadly the number of young, really attractive ones represent only a small proportion of this number and these attractive girls are matched by equal amounts of young, good looking guys on the look out for them. The result is that the typical really attractive girl in a bar or in a club is spoilt for choice and she ends up wanting the best of all worlds. A young, good looking guy who will pay over the 'going rate' for her and most days she will get just that. If not then she is happy to wait a day or two until a suitable guy comes along.

So you have the situation that there are many attractive girls in Pattaya are on show but a lot of these are not actually available to you which can be kind of frustrating.

During the current high season the 'standard' price for short time (1-2 hours or one cum) in most of the better bars was 2000 baht plus 600 baht bar fee. This works out at about €65 at current exchange rate of 42baht/€. Kind of extortionate when you consider that Thailand is still a developing country. By paying about €20 to €30 more you can shag as many women as you like all day in a club in a first rate developed country like Germany.

Surprisingly even though it is a developing country and poverty is wide spread, the Thai sex scene has never seen the advantage of offering the 'shag, eat, drink as much as you like' partytreff concept. Most Thais are desperate for money but they think that they can make more profits by keeping prices up even though there is loads of competition in terms of thousands of bars looking for customers with many bars near empty on most nights.

So on a typical night you can easily spend 200 baht on a meal. 120 baht on a beer, the same amount for a lady drink and 2600 baht for a woman from a top go go bar including bar fee plus 300 baht for the use of a short time room for just an hour of service. That is 3340 baht for one cum with one woman. But it will be more than that of course because you may buy a few drinks in a bar and give the bar staff tips, buy food for the girl, etc.

Then there are of course the hidden / forgotten costs like the current atrocious exchange rate (making Pattaya 25% more expensive compared to a few years ago) , $3. 50 Thai bank charge each time you with draw money from an ATM and the €600 to €700+ air fare compared to € 250+ for plane / train travel to Germany. This means that on a 1 week holiday you are almost €50 down before you start your evening in Thailand compared to Germany.

Having said all that if you really aren't too picky and are happy to spend a reasonable amount of time and effort searching then it is possible to pick up a couple of OK looking women off the streets or in the nightclubs who will be happy to give you a good performance including BBBJ or BBFS (if that is what you desire) and stay with you all night for 1000 baht each, which is about €50. But you will have to do a bit of work and stay disciplined and not squander your money buying lots of drinks in bars and clubs.

Having said that, most guys do however end up spending lots of money on drinks in the bars looking for the right girls(s).

Got to agree with you there DV, I am just returned from almost 3 weeks Pattaya in Thailand and man is it getting expensive there! Total cost of trip was €3500, and while I did have a great time but for that money I could do around 6 x 3-4 day partytreff trips. Then there is the fucking long bloody flight to Thailand and the week of Jet Lag when you arrive, and the week of Jet Lag and depression when you come home.

Obviously going to Thailand and going to Germany are very different kinds of sex holidays, and its not possible to do a direct comparison, but if you go to a partytreff like Palace and fuck 10 or 15 women for €77 in the day, it is a lot cheaper per woman than the €12. 50 short time rate for a girl from the Beach road in Pattaya, even if the average service in Pattaya is better.

In fact in Pattaya at the moment, it is very easy to spend almost a €100 on a good looking girl for a 24 hour period. Most good looking women there want 2000 baht for 24 hours, (€50) and its very easy to blow another €50 on drinks / food / entertainment / little presents etc.

Its great for us that the Germans are a mean bunch financially and don't like paying too much for their sex, because it keeps the prices of the flat rate clubs down. €75- €150 is still a great rate for a day of sex, even if the service is not always the best.

Jerboa

02-21-11, 01:45

'Ho many' is still relatively undiscovered at present. In fact whenever I mention partytreffs to mates they look genuinely puzzled and are generally amazed that there is such a thriving 'pay for play' scene only 2 hours plane ride away and they knew nothing about it. These guys are of course familiar with Amsterdam, Prague, Riga and when you mention Thailand then almost all will know it as a sex tourist place.

Unfortunately, Pattaya is now over discovered. It used to be only busy during the high season but now almost all year round there will be hordes of young guys flocking there for easy, cheap sex. It is no longer the place that only middle-aged divorcees go to find their Thai 'mail order' bride. Also, the catchment area for Thailand is literally the whole world including US, Australia and Japan whereas in Germany it is mainly Dutch or the English who make up the foreign contingent. Last but not least the internet coverage is wall-to-wall for Pattaya / Bangkok whereas there is very little media exposure for the Partytreff / FKK scene.

There are tens of thousands of girls available on any one night in Pattaya but sadly the number of young, really attractive ones represent only a small proportion of this number and these attractive girls are matched by equal amounts of young, good looking guys on the look out for them. The result is that the typical really attractive girl in a bar or in a club is spoilt for choice and she ends up wanting the best of all worlds. A young, good looking guy who will pay over the 'going rate' for her and most days she will get just that. If not then she is happy to wait a day or two until a suitable guy comes along.

So you have the situation that there are many attractive girls in Pattaya are on show but a lot of these are not actually available to you which can be kind of frustrating.

During the current high season the 'standard' price for short time (1-2 hours or one cum) in most of the better bars was 2000 baht plus 600 baht bar fee. This works out at about €65 at current exchange rate of 42baht/€. Kind of extortionate when you consider that Thailand is still a developing country. By paying about €20 to €30 more you can shag as many women as you like all day in a club in a first rate developed country like Germany.

Surprisingly even though it is a developing country and poverty is wide spread, the Thai sex scene has never seen the advantage of offering the 'shag, eat, drink as much as you like' partytreff concept. Most Thais are desperate for money but they think that they can make more profits by keeping prices up even though there is loads of competition in terms of thousands of bars looking for customers with many bars near empty on most nights.

So on a typical night you can easily spend 200 baht on a meal. 120 baht on a beer, the same amount for a lady drink and 2600 baht for a woman from a top go go bar including bar fee plus 300 baht for the use of a short time room for just an hour of service. That is 3340 baht for one cum with one woman. But it will be more than that of course because you may buy a few drinks in a bar and give the bar staff tips, buy food for the girl, etc.

Then there are of course the hidden / forgotten costs like the current atrocious exchange rate (making Pattaya 25% more expensive compared to a few years ago) , $3. 50 Thai bank charge each time you with draw money from an ATM and the €600 to €700+ air fare compared to € 250+ for plane / train travel to Germany. This means that on a 1 week holiday you are almost €50 down before you start your evening in Thailand compared to Germany.

Having said all that if you really aren't too picky and are happy to spend a reasonable amount of time and effort searching then it is possible to pick up a couple of OK looking women off the streets or in the nightclubs who will be happy to give you a good performance including BBBJ or BBFS (if that is what you desire) and stay with you all night for 1000 baht each, which is about €50. But you will have to do a bit of work and stay disciplined and not squander your money buying lots of drinks in bars and clubs.

Having said that, most guys do however end up spending lots of money on drinks in the bars looking for the right girls (s). Good post Myrrh, I agree with a lot of what you say. Thailand Is not as cheap as It once was. But then prices have gone up everywhere.

True some of the gogo divas particulary In BKK ask for 2k ST, as you say after BF drinks and ST hotel you can pay over 3k, that's over €70! In the past I've mentioned on Thai boards that for that price you could get a ST In Germany, but still guys pay It. Though longtime Is still value for money In LOS.

Thai mentallity Is to keep prices high If things are quiet, thats just the way they think.

True If guys are not fussy they can find lots of average bargirls about, at a fair price, but unfortunatly I have expensive tastes LOL, many mongers now are cutting out the gogo bars and going for the freelancers, or waiting for the bargirls to leave work at 2am.

Dark Vader

02-27-11, 23:47

A foolhardy schedule?

Back in the saddle this weekend and have tentatively formulated the following plan:

Saturday: AM – FKK Acapulco

Afternoon – GB at Seesternchen.

Evening – frivoleloungep3 swinger's club or maybe CaesarsSunday: Noon – 3 hours at PC Bochum.

Late Afternoon – 3 hours at a gangbang in Essen. and then home.

Obviously I will be packing C but it still strikes me that I may be biting off a tad more than I can chew (I'm getting too old for this). Well I survived the "ordeal" with my dick intact although not to be repeated too many times.

My physical well being was greatly "helped" by my getting no action at p3 other than a few gropes but it was still a fun night. The real highlight of the trip turned out to be the last stop ie. the gangbang in Essen gang-bangparty.com/home.html and I was extremely disappointed to have to curtail my stay to leave for the airport. Unbeknown to me me it was actually an AO event and I had to do a double-take when I saw the first cock entering unsheathed but I can thoroughly recommend it for any bareback fans out there. It's held in a private apartment in what looks to be a social housing block so things are a bit cramped and the area looks a bit dodgy but perfectly adequate and safe for the business in hand.

Not sure when I'll get round to writing the report but it's definitely worth a visit and I'll be repeating when I next get the chance.

John Jay

03-04-11, 19:46

Hi guys, can somebody tell me the alcohol policy of Pauschalclub Bochum and Harem Erkarth? Is booze included in the day ticket prices?

Robnbg1981

03-05-11, 10:58

Koosje12

03-09-11, 23:35

Hi guys, can somebody tell me the alcohol policy of Pauschalclub Bochum and Harem Erkarth? Is booze included in the day ticket prices?For Erkrath no alcohol is included. You can buy beer (or champagne) , but you will have to pay extra.

SvenFKK

03-10-11, 19:04

I need a little advice!

I am looking for a Flatetrate Club in or close to Frankfurt.

My research shows two results: The Sex Discounter in Hanau and another club called XTreff.

I have never been to the Sex Discounter in Hanau.

I visited the XTreff about two years ago and had mixed feelings. Somewhere between surprise and shock I think. Can you describe your impressions in more detail?

Both tend to get mixed to bad reviews, like all Partytreff clubs outside of NRW.

I have never been to either of them. I got as far as the bar at Sex Discounter a few years ago, but didn't have a good impression, so decided not to try it. I did the same again a couple of days ago. Impression was not as bad. I was told the prices: 49 for sex once and two hours time. 79 for three times and three hours. 99 for unlimited and all day. Not sure if the numbers are accurate, but you get the idea. I asked about all day and was told that one could repeat sessions with the same girl. (Whether or not one has to sample all the others first was not clear.) Some reports indicated that it was limited at one session per girl. Since only 2-4 are there, the unlimited option wouldn't make sense if one couldn't repeat.

It's been in existence for several years now, for whatever that is worth.

I might try it some time in the next few months. Will report.

Mrknowitall

03-14-11, 23:36

For Erkrath no alcohol is included. You can buy beer (or champagne) , but you will have to pay extra.Seems to be the trend in NRW. PTMettmann told me that is was not their decision, but rather the local towns Rathaus decision. To be fair, they have QUITE a large selection of Delicious Deutsches NA Bier (alkohofrei)

Robnbg1981

03-27-11, 12:12

Hi Folks,

As nobody could really confirm or deny the negative reports from a few years back and there were no newer positive reports I stopped by there yesterday with a friend.

From outside the club looks more modern. It is now on the 1st floor of an Industrial building located directly next to the highway. Compared to the unfinished basement the club was housed in before.

We arrived Saturday night, around 10:30pm, rang the bell, and climbed the stairs to the club.

The man at the entrance desk told us the rate for evening was Euro 100 (until the week befor it had been 79 Euro and in 2 Weeks it will be discounted to 79 Euro again)

Before we paid I asked about the girls and the men present.

He told us there were 5 Grils working and about 7 men there.

Roughly interpreted I thought he meant 5 girls to 8-10 guys.

While we were still standing at the entrance, debating whether we should go in one girl ran past us twice. Once into the bar area behind a closed curtain and then out again.

I think she was fleeing from some guy.

One minute later three men came out and asked the man at the desk what was wrong with that one girl, and also another girl. All three men looked a little bit frustrated.

Seeing this, we took our que to double back and get out of there before it was too late.

The club (at least from the reception are) looked a lot cleaner than two years ago, but 5 girls, and around 10 disgruntled men just is not a good ratio, and also told me something about the hospitalty and service offered there.

We left the club and walked back to the car and decided to drive the 15 minutes back towards Hanau, where we had a nice evening at the FKK Atlantik.

No regrets!

Have a good weekend!

Robert

Dark Vader

03-30-11, 22:03

http://www.susannas-institut.de. Opening in April.

Their standard pricing looks crap but I could be tempted to do their Adult Party (5 hours for 250 EUR) if the standard is any good. I'll wait to see some reports first.

Wanking

04-02-11, 16:42

Is there in Germany any partytreff place which has any ladyboys in it? Or have you ever noticed any bi-curious things between clients in partytreffs?Partytreffs tend to be a very much a straight affair. I can't think of any gay / bi activity happening in regular partytreff / pauschal clubs that only have hired in women. Many of the swingers clubs have Bi days.

http://www.swingertreff-moers.de/4.html Has Bi parties on a Monday and Tuesday.

I have also witnessed Bi activity in http://www.drueberunddrunter.de/

Beverly have a Bi night on a Tuesday http://www.beverlypage.de/indexsg2.asp, although they seem to be phasing out their house women.

Also many places also have their own Tranny nights..

Our resident Swinging expert Dark Vader may be able to add more.

Winthorp

04-10-11, 19:22

And I need some advice!

Last year I took in 4 clubs with good results, Dolce Vita Wagenfeld, Pauschalclub Munster, PT Osnabruck and PT Dorsten.

This year I plan to go further south and am currently doing my research at the moment, I plan to fly to Dusseldorf and base myself around there. I plan to give 4 to 5 whole days in the clubs out of a week sometime in July or August. My shortlist so far are these:

Pauschalclub Bochum.

Pauschalclub Dortmund.

Harem Pauschal-Saunaclub Dormagen.

Harem Platinum Erkrath.

Partytreff Poleposition.

Partytreff Flair.

Partytreff Dorsten:- The only club on the list I've visited before and I pumped some hot pussy here!

Partytreff Gelsenkirchen.

Partytreff MG Rheydt.

They all seem fairly good to me and I wonder what would be you guys recommendations? I'm not shy of groupen sex and like to mix it up, ideally some quieter times in private in a Pauschalclub and something like a porno party with group sex the following day. The porno party with Taranee Devil in Wagenfeld last year was mind blowing.

I am also trying to budget the trip as usually on my sex tours abroad the whole thing costs a lot more than the sex, my recent Thailand trip cost me 30:1 the actual spend on sex there, wheras my last German trip was only 3:1 and I want to get this down to 2 or 2. 5/1 this time. How feasible are any of those clubs to be reached by Public transport and anyone know any good hotels for €35 to €50 / night in the greater Dusseldorf Area? Ideally I want to limit my car rental and not blow the budget on hotels either.

Are FKKs worth hitting also as I'd like to get some black ass and Brazilan / Latinos which is something I didn't encounter much in the PT's before except for a Dominican Girl in Dorsten and a Mixed race German in Osnabruck both of whom had the biggest and most beautiful arses. Any of the clubs on my list do Anal?

John Jay

04-11-11, 01:05

Others may argue with me but I would give Dorsten a miss. The place isn't as well run without the old guy Roberto and the girls I found when I was there last summer were a bit of a Skanky bunch.

The food was OK and the facilities are nice though. Particularly the outdoor area and the cold beer is a plus. Just remember thinking the girls weren't great. Bad skin. Too skinny. Bad attitude. Meeeh.

And I need some advice!

Last year I took in 4 clubs with good results, Dolce Vita Wagenfeld, Pauschalclub Munster, PT Osnabruck and PT Dorsten.

This year I plan to go further south and am currently doing my research at the moment, I plan to fly to Dusseldorf and base myself around there. I plan to give 4 to 5 whole days in the clubs out of a week sometime in July or August. My shortlist so far are these:

Pauschalclub Bochum.

Pauschalclub Dortmund.

Harem Pauschal-Saunaclub Dormagen.

Harem Platinum Erkrath.

Partytreff Poleposition.

Partytreff Flair.

Partytreff Dorsten:- The only club on the list I've visited before and I pumped some hot pussy here!

Partytreff Gelsenkirchen.

Partytreff MG Rheydt.

They all seem fairly good to me and I wonder what would be you guys recommendations? I'm not shy of groupen sex and like to mix it up, ideally some quieter times in private in a Pauschalclub and something like a porno party with group sex the following day. The porno party with Taranee Devil in Wagenfeld last year was mind blowing.

I am also trying to budget the trip as usually on my sex tours abroad the whole thing costs a lot more than the sex, my recent Thailand trip cost me 30:1 the actual spend on sex there, wheras my last German trip was only 3:1 and I want to get this down to 2 or 2. 5/1 this time. How feasible are any of those clubs to be reached by Public transport and anyone know any good hotels for €35 to €50 / night in the greater Dusseldorf Area? Ideally I want to limit my car rental and not blow the budget on hotels either.

Are FKKs worth hitting also as I'd like to get some black ass and Brazilan / Latinos which is something I didn't encounter much in the PT's before except for a Dominican Girl in Dorsten and a Mixed race German in Osnabruck both of whom had the biggest and most beautiful arses. Any of the clubs on my list do Anal?

Creature2

04-11-11, 09:54

If you go on a good day, that means in a good line-up, Pauschal Bochum and Dortmund can't be beaten in terms of service (beneath the top tier PTs)

The sessions are a bit rushed in Pauschal Dortmund (because of the lack of the rooms) but the sessions were not that restricted in Pauschal Bochun (in terms of timing, the rooms outnumber the one in Dorsten and terms of quantity and quality). For both clubs, try to reach at 11 am sharp.

My Dolce Vita Wagenfeld visit wasn't that succsefull, last year, that is why I didn't had an urge to report it, yet. I was also attended on a day with Tarenaa Devil, she was amazing, but the rest of the day apart her, didn't light my fire. Tarenaa is a nice, shortish blond gal, she is German but can also speak Polish. She cames from Berlin.

You may find some black girls in Harem Erkrath and Dormagen, Pauschal Bochum and also in Globe Leverkusen.

There are some girls who does anal, in pauschal Bochum and Dortmund. And also there were some talents who does it in PT MG. You should check thier web site and get which girl does it and which day of the week, they show up.

In FKK, there is also a possibility to meet black girls, but this is not waranteed for 100 percent. In order to see more girls and increase the possibility, try to choose big FKKs such as Golden Time and the newest FKK Planet, in the area and try to visit there on Friday and Saturday, when most of the line-up shows up, simultaneously.

You may try also Bernd's but it is not open during weekends and this is not a big FKK. You may call them before heading, just to know whether there is some black girls (Dominican, Cuban, Brazilian).

I hope it helps,

C2.

And I need some advice!

Last year I took in 4 clubs with good results, Dolce Vita Wagenfeld, Pauschalclub Munster, PT Osnabruck and PT Dorsten.

This year I plan to go further south and am currently doing my research at the moment, I plan to fly to Dusseldorf and base myself around there. I plan to give 4 to 5 whole days in the clubs out of a week sometime in July or August. My shortlist so far are these:

Pauschalclub Bochum.

Pauschalclub Dortmund.

Harem Pauschal-Saunaclub Dormagen.

Harem Platinum Erkrath.

Partytreff Poleposition.

Partytreff Flair.

Partytreff Dorsten:- The only club on the list I've visited before and I pumped some hot pussy here!

Partytreff Gelsenkirchen.

Partytreff MG Rheydt.

They all seem fairly good to me and I wonder what would be you guys recommendations? I'm not shy of groupen sex and like to mix it up, ideally some quieter times in private in a Pauschalclub and something like a porno party with group sex the following day. The porno party with Taranee Devil in Wagenfeld last year was mind blowing.

I am also trying to budget the trip as usually on my sex tours abroad the whole thing costs a lot more than the sex, my recent Thailand trip cost me 30:1 the actual spend on sex there, wheras my last German trip was only 3:1 and I want to get this down to 2 or 2. 5/1 this time. How feasible are any of those clubs to be reached by Public transport and anyone know any good hotels for €35 to €50 / night in the greater Dusseldorf Area? Ideally I want to limit my car rental and not blow the budget on hotels either.

Are FKKs worth hitting also as I'd like to get some black ass and Brazilan / Latinos which is something I didn't encounter much in the PT's before except for a Dominican Girl in Dorsten and a Mixed race German in Osnabruck both of whom had the biggest and most beautiful arses. Any of the clubs on my list do Anal?

Varenne

04-14-11, 19:01

Opens tomorrow.

http://partytreff-emmerich.de/April offer: price for whole day is 59€ (one hour 29€) , including unlimited sessions, food and drinks.

Ccseeka

04-14-11, 19:33

April offer: price for whole day is 59€ (one hour 29€) , including unlimited sessions, food and drinks.Varenne.

Have you come across any positive reports of this club.

If I get a flight in or out of Weeze this club could be handy to visit.

Varenne

04-16-11, 14:12

Varenne.

Have you come across any positive reports of this club. The following information are gathered from forum reports, I never visited the club myself.

The place is in pretty good condition, while not supplied with high quality furniture; spartan but clean, the changing room counts some 40 lockers, there's a nicely warmed sauna. 3 shower nozzles which are shared with the girls. Food is basic but tasty (soup, meat, bread, salad). For action there are open spaces as well many private rooms.

Opening hours should be 11:00-02:00 (and 11:00-05:00 at week-end).

You can expect to meet some 5-8 girls (and 1 fkk quality among them) , mainly from Bulgaria, otherwise Romania or Turkey, and even less customers (it's not unlikely to be at times the only one). Being close to the border, is mainly visited by Dutch, mostly at week-ends or at lunch break around 12:00-13:00. The girls shown on the website are the same one who work in Gelsenkirchen-Buer (and Cleopatra Arena on party days) , nevertheless those are seldom in Emmerich. The girl who you are likely to meet are visually less appealing. Service is initially a little rushed, but gets better and better if you've time to know and make acquaintance with the ladies. All girls offer BBBJ, only some do DFK. You get a colored wrist band whose purpose is unknown, as no bareback service seems to be on offer.

For 59€/day sounds like a good deal, especially if you like to play and flirt with the ladies and you're expectations are not too high in term of eye candy.

I think the dutch forums might be the best information source for this club, if anybody can read them and report.

Ccseeka

04-30-11, 13:05

The following information are gathered from forum reports, I never visited the club myself.

The place is in pretty good condition, while not supplied with high quality furniture; spartan but clean, the changing room counts some 40 lockers, there's a nicely warmed sauna. 3 shower nozzles which are shared with the girls. Food is basic but tasty (soup, meat, bread, salad). For action there are open spaces as well many private rooms.

Opening hours should be 11:00-02:00 (and 11:00-05:00 at week-end).

You can expect to meet some 5-8 girls (and 1 fkk quality among them) , mainly from Bulgaria, otherwise Romania or Turkey, and even less customers (it's not unlikely to be at times the only one). Being close to the border, is mainly visited by Dutch, mostly at week-ends or at lunch break around 12:00-13:00. The girls shown on the website are the same one who work in Gelsenkirchen-Buer (and Cleopatra Arena on party days) , nevertheless those are seldom in Emmerich. The girl who you are likely to meet are visually less appealing. Service is initially a little rushed, but gets better and better if you've time to know and make acquaintance with the ladies. All girls offer BBBJ, only some do DFK. You get a colored wrist band whose purpose is unknown, as no bareback service seems to be on offer.

For 59€/day sounds like a good deal, especially if you like to play and flirt with the ladies and you're expectations are not too high in term of eye candy.

I think the dutch forums might be the best information source for this club, if anybody can read them and report. Thanks for this detail of info on this club Varenne.

Did not do it this time but did Buer and if the level of service is the same will do it the next trip.

Ccseeka

04-30-11, 13:26

Just back from another break to the NRW sexland.

Originally planned the trip as

Day 1 GB Teenies.

Day 2 Kino event then 3 hours at PC Velbert.

Day 3 Buer.

Day 4 Palace.

Went to Teenies but there were only two girls there most had gone on holiday so gave it a miss. Did not fancy spending 5 hours at the club with that number. Ended up going to Gelsenkirchen and take a chance to find a ticket tout, the prices were way too high so went to a bar for the football that evening. I met a ISG lurker at Buer he said it is a good club with 6 girls and you get welcome blow jobs at the bar!

Felt relaxed at the kino event ended up axing the trip to Velbert

But Palace was a disaster!

Reports to follow.

Wanking

04-30-11, 18:40

Cheers Ccseeka.

Looking forward to these reports mate.

Was thinking of doing Palace on my next trip, but looks like I won't now.

Just back from another break to the NRW sexland.

Originally planned the trip as

Day 1 GB Teenies.

Day 2 Kino event then 3 hours at PC Velbert.

Day 3 Buer.

Day 4 Palace.

Went to Teenies but there were only two girls there most had gone on holiday so gave it a miss. Did not fancy spending 5 hours at the club with that number. Ended up going to Gelsenkirchen and take a chance to find a ticket tout, the prices were way too high so went to a bar for the football that evening. I met a ISG lurker at Buer he said it is a good club with 6 girls and you get welcome blow jobs at the bar!

Felt relaxed at the kino event ended up axing the trip to Velbert

But Palace was a disaster!

Reports to follow.

Creature2

05-05-11, 09:41

But Palace was a disaster!Guess what! I am not surprised of that!

I guess, last year, you had also the same decision like me, to not going to cheap places because these are waist of time, but you did attracted again maybe by the name (Great Palace, too encouraging and promising) or simply by the price.

Did you also do PT Plaza, Velbert?

Still, will wait the series of reports to make a final decision. I am also looking forward to them, it will always be a nice reading with lots of informations.

Keep up the good works.

Ccseeka

05-06-11, 21:50

Guess what! I am not surprised of that!

I guess, last year, you had also the same decision like me, to not going to cheap places because these are waist of time, but you did attracted again maybe by the name (Great Palace, too encouraging and promising) or simply by the price.

Did you also do PT Plaza, Velbert?

Still, will wait the series of reports to make a final decision. I am also looking forward to them, it will always be a nice reading with lots of informations.

Keep up the good works.I never got round to doing PT Plaza, Velbert for three hours even though the bus ride was a mere 20 minutes away from the kino event. Slightly regret it now maybe it would have been ok. Perhaps Velbert is the new Palace and Palace is the new Velbert who knows?

Yes I was beginning to have had a belly full of the 70 euro clubs after last few trips but Buer slightly restored a little bit of faith, perhaps one of the few out there that is decent. Want to tick off these clubs then pick a regular one and concentrate on Harem and the like.

Creature2

05-08-11, 07:42

I never got round to doing PT Plaza, Velbert for three hours even though the bus ride was a mere 20 minutes away from the kino event. Slightly regret it now maybe it would have been ok. Perhaps Velbert is the new Palace and Palace is the new Velbert who knows?

Yes I was beginning to have had a belly full of the 70 euro clubs after last few trips but Buer slightly restored a little bit of faith, perhaps one of the few out there that is decent. Want to tick off these clubs then pick a regular one and concentrate on Harem and the like. I heard that Plaza in Velbert was very dirty. Cleanliness, especially on the shower area is a real issue, I have been told. Just for your info.

Dark Vader

05-13-11, 00:51

http://privat-sunshine.de/

Creature2

05-14-11, 13:56

http://privat-sunshine.de/Polish line-up, at last.

Dorsten has also reinforced its Polish crew.

Do they really return to the German scene, or the invasion of Romanians and Bulgarian has ceased fire.

Creature2

05-20-11, 21:56

Yesterday, insomnia was rocking again with the swingers. The hired ladys was so so, only Jacky (porn movie name was Black Lady) was young and good looking. Lost counting into how many cunts have plonged my dick, but as I will just do gang bangs 3 days in a row, I saved the wood and only cum twice. At last, I also partially solved the issue with the fresh towels in insomnia. For me this club is a nice combination of swinger and ganbang, sometimes with the porn stars.

Today, early plan was to go to an AO event, but then decided not to go, cause they told me to bring my own towel. This was a photo studio, I doubt about showers, cleanliness and also the buffet. Instead, I went to another gang bang, it is announced 4 girls, there were three, but after two hours, one left, and two girls should manage all guys with no break. Girls were young and nice looking, especially Yvonne was an FKK quality.

Tomorrow, I will go to the same place, it is announced 6 to 8 girls, I doubt but better than nothing. Today I shagged all those three young girls, several times, all long sessions, and I has two cums, once CIM then facial, for 90 euro including buffet and alcoholic drinks such as beer, wine and even vodka.

Full report will follow when I return.

Wanking

05-23-11, 20:03

Goddamn I hope this latest Volcanic Eruption doesn't ruin my plans for Sexual Eruption in 3 weeks.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/transport/8531487/Volcanic-ash-cloud-fears-send-airline-shares-plunging.html

Dark Vader

06-02-11, 10:39

Well it seems that these days one is safer licking pussies in the clubs than eating that cucumber salad!

Wanking

06-02-11, 12:04

Well it seems that these days one is safer licking pussies in the clubs than eating that cucumber salad!Http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303745304576360780812512492.html

John Jay

06-02-11, 21:54

What is the Alcohol policy in Xanten, Dolce Vita (Wagenfeld) , PT Dortmund Airport & GK Buer?

I'm bringing a mongering novice with me next month and I don't want him to bail out if the scene is too much for him. I'm sure a little booze would help him through out the day! I'm asking the same questions again: I wish the websites were a bit more transparent mit Dem Alkoholische Getranke!

Also, anybody going to the extreme 12 Pornstar 40 girls event in Partytreff Dolce Vita? Sounds like a blast but has the potential to be a cock fest if two many mongers show up!

Koosje12

06-03-11, 09:27

Wanking

06-03-11, 13:26

Hey guys what is your opinion on the E coli breakout that started in Germany?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/04/world/europe/04ecoli.html

Would it put you off visiting the country?

Dark Vader

06-03-11, 18:17

What is the Alcohol policy in Xanten, Dolce Vita (Wagenfeld) , PT Dortmund Airport & GK Buer?I seem to recall that Dolce Vita and PT Dortmund are alcohol-frei beer only. Not sure though as I'm usually driving and so don't touch the stuff.

Also, anybody going to the extreme 12 Pornstar 40 girls event in Partytreff Dolce Vita? Sounds like a blast but has the potential to be a cock fest if two many mongers show up!Yep I plan on attending but it's bound to be packed and so I won't count on getting any quality sessions. It should still be a great show though as it's fun to see all those holes being plugged. I've been checking the line-up and I've previously fucked over half of the Pornstars on the bill.

Dark Vader

06-03-11, 18:23

Hey guys what is your opinion on the E coli breakout that started in Germany?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/04/world/europe/04ecoli.html

Would it put you off visiting the country? Nah no chance! Got to keep things in proportion after all there are still well over 80 million people living there.

Just keep off the salad and make sure the food is cooked properly and things are likely to be OK. Far riskier licking those arses and poking unsheathed.

John Jay

06-03-11, 22:12

Nah no chance! Got to keep things in proportion after all there are still well over 80 million people living there.

Just keep off the salad and make sure the food is cooked properly and things are likely to be OK. Far riskier licking those arses and poking unsheathed.Not unless my Ding-dong Falls-off!

PE6591

06-08-11, 21:52

I plan on coming there too. Question: how dose the porn stars event go? Are they there from opening time? I've been in the place once for a rather short time and the porn star (there was only 1) had her part only once. When would it be best to come?

10X

I seem to recall that Dolce Vita and PT Dortmund are alcohol-frei beer only. Not sure though as I'm usually driving and so don't touch the stuff.

Yep I plan on attending but it's bound to be packed and so I won't count on getting any quality sessions. It should still be a great show though as it's fun to see all those holes being plugged. I've been checking the line-up and I've previously fucked over half of the Pornstars on the bill.

Wanking

06-10-11, 15:24

Hey guys what is your opinion on the E coli breakout that started in Germany?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/04/world/europe/04ecoli.html

Would it put you off visiting the country? First it was cucumbers, then it was a restaurant, then it was beansprouts, then it was not beansprouts, and now They are Finally sure its the Fucking Beansprouts!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/10/e-coli-bean-sprouts-blamed

So if you are going to Germany soon, do not eat Beansprouts!!! (Im sure they wont be served anywhere at this stage)

John Jay

06-10-11, 15:52

First it was cucumbers, then it was a restaurant, then it was beansprouts, then it was not beansprouts, and now They are Finally sure its the Fucking Beansprouts!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/10/e-coli-bean-sprouts-blamed

So if you are going to Germany soon, do not eat Beansprouts! (I'm sure they won't be served anywhere at this stage)No problem! I plan to bring my own Sprouts and unload them into some pleasant East European girls' Kartoffelnschaft in two weeks time. To answer the other guy not sure myself how packed out the Pornstar (PT Dolce Vita) event will be! Could benefit by being else where if every swinging ding-dong in the region will be there.

I considered heading to Partytreff Bochum but apparently the girls are gone lazy there? Anyone know what the action is like in PT Dortmund these days? Or even whats the best looks V Action these days? Not sure if the Harem Erkrath girls are good looking?

Wanking

06-10-11, 17:54

I considered heading to Partytreff Bochum but apparently the girls are gone lazy there? Anyone know what the action is like in PT Dortmund these days? Or even whats the best looks V Action these days? Not sure if the Harem Erkrath girls are good looking?Bochum and Dortmund are part of the same group, so If Bochum have changed their payment arrangement with their ladies, then there is a good chance that Dortmund have also.

Harem women tend not to be the hottest visually but last time I was in Harem in April there were some decent looking ones.

Customx

06-12-11, 22:36

Wonder which web sites have the best and most information on GBs, bukkake and other related parties. NRWErotik seems great for that region. Are there others that are good as well?

Wanking

06-17-11, 09:32

Man I've been 2 solid days with my good friend Anaconda Pot (col bog) and it's been a laugh a minute. Yesterday we went to DVR and then the Spermastudio event in Gelsenkirchen.

Despite the fact that you are not allowed to take Private photos at this event, I managed to get a few good sneaky ones! I even have a few of Anaconda himself. I will have to wait till I get home next week to post them, but trust me they are worth waiting for!

We are off to Harem Erkrath now in the next hour, but seriously I could do with another 6 hours sleep! But as Anaconda says "life is for living now and we will sleep when we are dead!"

Keep on fucking and licking anuses

WK

John Jay

06-17-11, 10:18

Blackdane

06-24-11, 17:51

First: I greatly enjoy reading this forum. It is a great guide to some of the finer things Germany has to offer.

Now. A question. Which PTTs are the best to visit for anything anal? Mettmann?

Ccseeka

06-25-11, 09:48

Hi fox!

Tuesday 28.

Privatteam Krefeld (hopefully they will have a party this day as they seem to have one every Tuesday & Wednesday)

http://privatteam.fucktipp.com/index.html

Wednesday 29.

Tabulose Kleve propose an AO party for 150€

http://www.tabulos-kleve.de.vu/

Anyone around willing to meet?That Kleve. Kranenburg club the girls look great!

Look forward to that report Col Bog.

Pity I cannot go anytime soon as I am going to Spain the next trip.

Here's praying the all day offer is still around when get back to the sexland.

SvenFKK

06-25-11, 17:39

Which PTTs are the best to visit for anything anal? Mettmann?I think Mettmann is the best club to visit for several reasons. The only thing they don't have are good facilities (sauna, whirlpool etc) , but for EUR 15 you can buy a ticket for a spa for a whole day and have even better such facilities (and see hundreds of nude women) , so that is not really a big loss. And if I'm at a Partytreff, I don't want to spend too much time relaxing anyway. Everything else is excellent: clean, friendly, genuinely horny women (a big plus for me-they are all German girls and don't need the money and the difference in attitude really shows) , nice staff, tasteful decor. And the best sex I have ever had in my life. (Some people say that the quality of the women is not as good here. First, that applies only to looks. On the one hand, yes, some are older and not everyone's idea of beauty (and not necessarily mine either) , but they more than make up for it in excellent service. Also, there are some very beautiful women at Mettmann as well, such as Joy.)

They used to advertise an extra anal day (usually Wednesday) , but no longer do this anymore. Although CIM is the rule not the exception here (the reverse of most places) , most girls don't do anal. However, Rita and Ute do. The schedule is on the web page. Just go when Ute or Rita is there and you can have all the anal sex you want.

I've had my share of anal sex, including with Ute and Rita. I don't think it's all it's cracked up to be (pun intended). For the man, it's not that much different than vaginal sex. Yes, it can be tighter, but I have experienced pussies which are tighter than some arseholes. I still enjoy it though, but mainly because the girls who do it tend to be generally hornier. Such girls also swallow, will lick your arsehole etc-these things I do find more enjoyable than the more standard pleasures. However, even vaginal missionary sex with Ute (with a condom) is still better than anything most other women offer.

Col Bog 1

06-25-11, 22:36

First: I greatly enjoy reading this forum. It is a great guide to some of the finer things Germany has to offer.

Now. A question. Which PTTs are the best to visit for anything anal? Mettmann?Tabulose team!

With 2 amazing performers : Ewa and Celine.

If you're on hard sex, you may appreciate to do them BB at no extra cost.

As already mentioned by Svenfkk, they are not young beauties but horny, still reasonably good looking, women.

If you can go on a party day, this is an experiment that you'll never forget.

Cheers

Col Bog 1

06-25-11, 22:39

That Kleve. Kranenburg club the girls look great!

Look forward to that report Col Bog.

Pity I cannot go anytime soon as I am going to Spain the next trip.

Here's praying the all day offer is still around when get back to the sexland.Hi Ccseeka.

Well, my expectations are high but I'm surprised that they have so few reports on German Forums.

It's supposed to be BBFS!

I'll try it and report. We'll see if it's worth the visit.

Maybe we can meet in the not so far future I'd like to exchange with you especially on Kino's event.

Cheers.

Dark Vader

06-26-11, 09:06

Looks to have had a makeover:- http://www.erotikpark-buende.de/

Anybody been there recently?

Wanking

07-04-11, 22:34

I went on a bigger than normal trip in June, where I visited 6 clubs over 5 days. Certainly cost me, as I spent around €1000 including flight, hotel, and clubs. Again a big thanks for my good friend Col "Anaconda Pot" Bog for driving me around for the first half of this trip. It was great to meet you again, and as always we had a great laugh. Also great to meet RedBull and Ed Setra. Overall I had a great time, but some clubs were not so good, but hey thats life!

I would also like to mention the great little hotel that I stayed in: Hotel Bismark (http://www.hotel-bismarck.de/) Dusseldorf. Apart from a smaller than average room, it had superior breakfast, fast WIFI, and a free travel card. I got all for €49 per night based on a 4 night stay, and I didn't even have to book with my credit card. Also this hotel is about 3 minutes walk from the main station. The staff were friendly and I would recommend.

I visited the following clubs:
June 15th - Cleopatra Arena (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1101-Other-Partytreffs&p=1171217&viewfull=1#post1171217)
June 16th - Dolce Vita Raubach (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3179-Dolce-Vita-Raubach&p=1171278&viewfull=1#post1171278)
June 16th - Spermastudio Event (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3215-Bareback-AO-(Alles-Ohne)-Flat-Rate-Clubs-Parties-and-Events&p=1172888&viewfull=1#post1172888)
June 17th - Swingertreff 18 Cologne (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3170-Other-Swinger-Clubs&p=1172791&viewfull=1#post1172791)
June 18th - Harem Dormagen (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3171-Harem-Pauschal-Club-Dormagen&p=1172835&viewfull=1#post1172835)
June 19th - Partytreff Palace (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3167-Partytreff-Palace&p=1172939&viewfull=1#post1172939)

Wanking

07-05-11, 00:21

Looks to have had a makeover:-

http://www.erotikpark-buende.de/

Anybody been there recently?Really looks like a fine recently revamped club. Pity its so far out in the middle of nowhere.

Varenne

07-05-11, 01:29

Die Bumsbude (http://die-bumsbude.com/site/1.html)

Should open soon. Not many information on homepage. Still no address either, impressum just says Ruhrgebiet.

Two shifts will be available (I find it pretty awkward) :

11-19 for 80€

19-01 (19-03 on fridays and saturdays) for 100€

TomRifle

07-08-11, 06:07

Wanking

07-08-11, 14:09

I am looking to make 3-4 days trip to Germany to visit partytreff / pauschal clubs. Please could you recommend me 3-4 clubs that can be reached with public transport from one base (Dortmund or Dusseldorf maybe). I am looking for better quaility girls and service and I am willing to pay more for that. I was thinking of Dorsten.Dorsten is ok, but the sex tends to be basic. Still I've always had funtimes there. All the bigger clubs seem to be a bit hit and miss at the moment.

The Pauschal chain clubs both Bochum and Dortmund have got some shit reviews here lately. Also I found Harem Dormagen crap, but Harem Erkrath may be better. I think Partytreff Palace is as good as any of them in terms of line up and service, and outstanding value at €77 per day.
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It appears that at the moment, there is no flat rate club that offers both very good looking women and very good service even for €150 per day. There are plenty of clubs that have average looking women and reasonable service, that are reachable by public transport:

Harem Erkrath.

Partytreff Palace.

Mettmann.

Cleopatra Arena has a partyday once a week, and is good value at €79.

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Seriously though, if you really want high quality good looking girls, you are better off with FKK IMHO.

Kawaman

07-09-11, 11:18

I have been out of the PTT sceene now for about a year, but in September I'll be back again with all the accumulated energy of a year.

So. As I understand from reading here, most of the PT clubs have changed a LOT over the past year.

I usually visited Wagenfeld, Bielefeld and Mettmann, but the last time I was in Bielefeld, Jimmy had sold the place and it as no longer the place I was used to.

Now, here's the thing.

I'll be landing in Dusseldorf on a Sunday and flying back on Friday morning. That means I have four days, but Thursday has to be somewhere not far from Dusseldorf since the plane leaves WAY to early on Friday.

I guess I'll be needing som advice from someone more up to date on the PTT then me. My thoughts are Mettmann, Wagenfeld, PT Inn and maybe Xanten on Thursday.

There are a few things though. I hate mechanical, disintrested girls and rushed sessions. And also not being able to socialise a bit. I don't speak german but understand it well enough.

Also I hate it when girls sais, don't do this, don't do that, don't touch, don't. Don't. Don't. The last time in Wagefeld there was a couple of those. Major turn off.

I have read a few reports and it would seem like there are some bad reports and some good about a lot of places. So I wonder, what places can you people recomend now? PTT only. I know Mettman are going to be good. It always is. I'll do an early session there on Monday. 10 to 16.

But the other three:

Wagenfeld.

Pt Inn.

Xanten.

How are theese places now? Or can you recomend some better places?

I've been to Palace. Not good at all. Would not recomend that place to my worst enemy, at least the way that place was one year ago.

And I found this place: Privatteam Krefeld http://privatteam.fucktipp.com/index.html

Now I'm confused.) What kind of a place is that? A PTT? Or the same consept?

I also love to be in the middle of a girl og girl action MFF. Maybe apart from Mettmann, does anyone know of a place where this would be possible? It would be a HUGE plus.)

SvenFKK

07-09-11, 20:08

e). I am looking for better quaility girls and service and I am willing to pay more for that. I was thinking of Dorsten.Mettmann. You will not find any better service anywhere on Earth. Try to go when Ute, Rita or Moni is there. Ute and Rita also do anal and swallow, but with all 3 it is not just what they do but how they do it.

SvenFKK

07-09-11, 20:10

I know Mettman are going to be good. It always is. I'll do an early session there on Monday. 10 to 16.For an even better experience, go to Mettmann when Ute, Rita or Moni is there-maybe even 2 or 3 of them together. That's rarely if ever the case on Monday, though.

Kawaman

07-10-11, 13:56

For an even better experience, go to Mettmann when Ute, Rita or Moni is there-maybe even 2 or 3 of them together. That's rarely if ever the case on Monday, though.I know. I've had a few sessions with two girls in Mettmann. Not with them playing with each other though. P But I'm not sure if any of the girls there like both sexes.

Well I have been looking for all or any of those three girls every time I've been there. But me and names are one thing, and then I'm not sure who those Ladies are. Can anyone give a description of them?

But I'm not really locked to any specific place for any spesific day. So if there are any day, between Monday and Thursday, the chance of meeting any if those are greater, please let me know.)

Also, I love to go down on girls. And 69. I know for a fact that if one goes to a PTT not long after they have opened for the day, the chance og making a girl have an orgasm are quite a lot bigger.) And I LOOVE that. Squirming, wrigling female body are the absolute best, LOL.

So, how are Xanten and Inn when it comes to DATY and 69? And also dark skinned girls. I see in the photos from Xanten that there are a few darker girls. Is that really so, or just a sales trick?.)

And as far as photos go, how does the photos match the girls that are REALLY there?

Would be a real bummer to go to a place because one have seen some very nice photos, only to be met by five absolute dragons, LOL.

Kawaman

07-10-11, 13:59

Pauschalclub69.

Are that a good place too?

It is a PTT, right?

By the looks of it, they seem to have a nice line up. And I've read a nice report or two. But are there english speaking girls there? And also in Xanten and Inn. How are they, language vice?

SvenFKK

07-10-11, 19:52

I know. I've had a few sessions with two girls in Mettmann. Not with them playing with each other though. P But I'm not sure if any of the girls there like both sexes.I have definitely seen girl-girl action at Mettmann.

Well I have been looking for all or any of those three girls every time I've been there. But me and names are one thing, and then I'm not sure who those Ladies are. Can anyone give a description of them?Who is there on what day is on their web page. Just ask at the bar who is who. Ute is about 6 feet tall, dark hair, vaguely reminiscent of Jamie Lee Curtis as far as her voice and laugh go. She has one pierced nipple and a few tattoos. Relatively small tits. Not my type at all, but she makes up for it in quality of service. Rita, like Ute, wears glasses, also small tits. Dark blonde. She often wears (just) pantyhose. Ute is often completely nude, as is Moni. Moni is a bit older, probably in her fifties. No tattoos IIRC. Wavy hair. No anal and doesn't swallow, but like most at Mettmann does CIM. She gives a really great blow job.

But I'm not really locked to any specific place for any spesific day. So if there are any day, between Monday and Thursday, the chance of meeting any if those are greater, please let me know.)Check the schedule on the web. It can always happen that there is a change at the last minute (though the web page is usually updated) , so to be sure write down the names of the girls and then ring the day before or on the day and ask.

Also, I love to go down on girls. And 69. I know for a fact that if one goes to a PTT not long after they have opened for the day, the chance og making a girl have an orgasm are quite a lot bigger.) And I LOOVE that. Squirming, wrigling female body are the absolute best, LOL.I have given Rita, Ute and Moni orgasms many times. Ute is a squirter, sometimes delivering as much as a cup. One of the girls (Jackie, IIRC) was surprised that I made her come by licking her and asked me "Where did you learn that?"

Wanking

07-18-11, 18:38

My next trip will not be till September, but I'm already fantasising about what clubs to visit. Currently I'm thinking about.

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http://www.partytreff-palace.de/index1.html. €77 per day.

http://www.cleopatra-arena.de/auswahl.htm. €79 but only one PT day per week on Wednesdays.

http://privatteam.fucktipp.com.3 bareback parties every week, for €79. Will depend on the lineup though.

http://www.partytreff-dorsten.de. €89 and while the sex is mostly a bit mechanical, I've always enjoyed the facilities and the fun atmosphere.

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I currently feel that overall there is not much difference between the cheap clubs that charge less than €100 for a day ticket and those that charge €150 for all day, apart from the owners pocketing more money. Ok Harem Erkrath does have the great food, but thats certainly not worth €70!

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BTW has anyone else noticed the forum running slow lately?

HankyPank

07-20-11, 23:34

SvenFKK

07-21-11, 11:02

I am going to stay in Frankfurt then after that I'm not sure. Is it better to be in Dusseldorf or Cologne for some action? And anyone have experience with the Harem clubs. They have some hot chicks on the site.

http://www.harem-pauschalclub.de/indexE.html

Does regular FKK or Partytreff tend to have better girls, or it it random?Conventional wisdom is that FKK is higher quality (and more expensive) , but this hasn't been my experience. Probably the variation among FKKs, or among Partytreffs, is larger than the difference between the average Partytreff and the average FKK. The best sex I've ever had I've had at a Partytreff, namely Mettmann, but Mettmann is in a class by itself.

There are some Partytreffs in and around Frankfurt. They generally don't get good reviews, but they might be worth checking out if you are in Frankfurt anyway.

LickerHole

07-21-11, 13:04

I've been lurking on this wonderful forum for around 4 months now. I'm a mid 30's guy from the UK, who for reasons that I don't want to go into, have not had sex since May 2009! I am coming to Dusseldorf for 10 days in the middle of August, and I plan to travel by train to a different club every second day, and fuck my brains out by staying in the club for the full day. Every other day I plan to do some touristy shit or just relax and fill my balls for the following day. I am so excited about all this, that I can hardly sleep!

Plan on hitting Harem Erkrath, Partytreff Palace, Dorsten, maybe that Privateteam bareback place in Krefeld if those young girls are still there, and maybe a couple of other clubs.

Like Wanking I love the idea of licking a girls ass, although I have never done it. It would have to be very clean for me though, as even the slightest smell of shit would "make me lose stiffness" as Col Bog would say. Hence my username "Lickerhole"! Wanking is very hardcore the way he licks the smelly asses, and the way he always refers to it by the proper name "anus" LOL.

Also I am not sure if I want to meet up with any guys yet until I get comfortable visiting these clubs. I will be very nervous the first day I think. I would be intimidated meeting Col Bog, Wanking or DarkVader at the moment anyway, as I have no real experience with public sex and don't know how I will perform. I have had sex with a few prostitutes in the past, last time was in Prague in 2009.

I want to say a big thanks to all you guys for your great reports and information.

Gooroox

07-21-11, 17:51

Mettmann. You will not find any better service anywhere on Earth. Try to go when Ute, Rita or Moni is there. Ute and Rita also do anal and swallow, but with all 3 it is not just what they do but how they do it.I was at the club a few days ago for a Natursekt / Gangbang party, I enjoyed the cool atmosphere and the nice chat with both men and women at the place. Rita is a great girl: she's quite tall and skinny and gives very deep DFK. Both Moni and Rita practise urology. Moni likes to give and loves to get your [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in her mouth (I'd never experienced it to such an extent!) while Rita will only [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on you (and Moni). The party starts at 5pm and goes on till midnight for the quite moderate price of 110€, food and drinks included. Would I repeat? Maybe but I lacked the larger number of girls I can have at normal FKK and Saunaclubs. But I definitely enjoyed the seven hours I spent there.

PS: IMHO, you'd better speak quite good German if you want to maximise your pleasure

Wanking

07-21-11, 20:03

Like Wanking I love the idea of licking a girls ass, although I have never done it. It would have to be very clean for me though, as even the slightest smell of shit would "make me lose stiffness" as Col Bog would say. Hence my username "Lickerhole"! Wanking is very hardcore the way he licks the smelly asses, and the way he always refers to it by the proper name "anus" LOL.Yes when a woman is sitting on my face I always have such an urge to just bury my tongue in her brown hole! So no sex in 2 years, fuck man thats got to be depressing. Love your username BTW LOL. Hope your trip goes well and I look forward to your reports.

Col Bog 1

07-21-11, 21:07

Plan on hitting Harem Erkrath, Partytreff Palace, Dorsten, maybe that Privateteam bareback place in Krefeld if those young girls are still there, and maybe a couple of other clubs.

Also I am not sure if I want to meet up with any guys yet until I get comfortable visiting these clubs. I will be very nervous the first day I think. I would be intimidated meeting Col Bog, Wanking or DarkVader at the moment anyway, as I have no real experience with public sex and don't know how I will perform.Hy LickerHole and welcome into this nice family.

If I may give you an advice it would be to go to places where you'll receive a nice treatment.

I think that Harem, palace, or Buer. Could be a good solution for you.

They propose private room for sex. Buer has both options.

If you don't feel confident enough you may be disappointed in places where public sex is a rule like Dorsten or Mettmann.

Then I don't know if you have read my report on Krefeld but it's really for porn lover and you must not be shy or afraid to go with an old Pot that won't be good looking at all. But will give you great sex.

For the new girls they propose I hope to be able to test them next week.

Last thing, If you have the opportunity to go with someone, just do it.

It's always better to be with someone in a club.

Sometimes, you may feel very lonely especially when girls have no time or interest for you or if you can't communicate with them.

I rarely have the chance to do clubs with ISGers and do regret it as it's always nice to have a good social time and interesting to exchange experiences.

Have fun.