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01-01-08, 02:00
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Joe Capitano
11-26-08, 21:03
Come on! I cannot believe that Kharkov is really such a remote area for mongering! First of all girls are prittier than in Kiev, okay it will be a more "sovietic" city than Kiev but. I go there 2-3 times a year and beeing not so active from mongering I donno so much except a strip bar called "night flyer" or something like that in Rose Luxembourg avenue. Any recommendation for escorts there?

Thanks

Cruiser D
11-27-08, 03:09
Check the 'other areas' thread for info on Kharkov, most of it is dated. I posted a bit when I was there in 2006.

Hollis Sam
12-15-08, 09:41
For any of you guys out there who are considering a trip to Ukraine, let me state that Mordinson's is the way to go!

I have been to Ukraine at least 8 or 9 times, both free-lancing it and also with other agencies. None came close to the service and value provided by Mordinsons. First and foremost, they are extremely honest. What they say is what they do, and they are reliable.

All the ladies that I asked to meet, I met. And they are all real. My head was spinning, there were so many to meet and available.

Michael keeps the days moving, for sure, as we go from date to date. He keeps the first meetings just long enough to get to know each other, with the options open for more if both parties concur. And during the dates, he knows just what to say to make things comfortable for both. Conversation flows smoothly, even though in two languages!

As far as the apartments, I have never stayed in such a nice place in Ukraine! No hotel has even come close for comfort and cleanliness! Privacy, convenient location. It has it all. Even a bakery next door, and a restaurant, lounge, and coffee shop. All in a secure area. The value is worth every penny, I have always ended up spending more when I freelance, and I end up wasting a lot of time. With Mordinson, you waste no time. In fact you may be begging for a break!

Gentleman Travel
12-15-08, 17:32
For any of you guys out there who are considering a trip to Ukraine, let me state that Mordinson's is the way to go!
Ha! Ha!
I checked out their web-site - standard photos and very little info.
No way to contact girls directly.
They promote buying 5 photos of a girl for $100 as a great deal! (She gets some flowers as part of the deal).
Send your girl a fruit basket for $100-$250!
What a valuable service!!!!

In Kharkov you can probably get an all-night blow job for $100 and buy a girl for a week for $250!!

Explorer69
12-15-08, 17:49
For any of you guys out there who are considering a trip to Ukraine, let me state that Mordinson's is the way to go!

I have been to Ukraine at least 8 or 9 times, both free-lancing it and also with other agencies. None came close to the service and value provided by Mordinsons. First and foremost, they are extremely honest. What they say is what they do, and they are reliable.

All the ladies that I asked to meet, I met. And they are all real. My head was spinning, there were so many to meet and available.

Michael keeps the days moving, for sure, as we go from date to date. He keeps the first meetings just long enough to get to know each other, with the options open for more if both parties concur. And during the dates, he knows just what to say to make things comfortable for both. Conversation flows smoothly, even though in two languages!

As far as the apartments, I have never stayed in such a nice place in Ukraine! No hotel has even come close for comfort and cleanliness! Privacy, convenient location. It has it all. Even a bakery next door, and a restaurant, lounge, and coffee shop. All in a secure area. The value is worth every penny, I have always ended up spending more when I freelance, and I end up wasting a lot of time. With Mordinson, you waste no time. In fact you may be begging for a break!If you want to give a false report on your own agency, it should rather been done ina way that everybody knows after reading the first 2 lines.

Just stop this!!

Nolies
12-15-08, 22:36
Hollis Sam,

Its because of people like you that the rip-off dating on the net agencies prosper!

They charge exuberant prices for small, cheap services (meeting a woman, sending her a letter, flowers etc) and there are plenty of suckers like you ready to bite! Really pitiful.

Bez Bezarra
12-16-08, 04:24
For any guy out there considering a trip to Ukraine, Mordinson's is NOT the way to go!

I have been to Ukraine 9 times. No value provided by Mordinsons.

As far as the apartments, I never stayed in a nice place in Ukraine!

No comfort!

I end up wasting a lot of time.

With Mordinson, you waste time. In fact you beg!


You've had more success mongering in Ukraine that the entire rest of the membership combined!!

You are the mother of all mongers!!

At least 9 times, and you've paid Mordinsons to procure multiple prostitutes for you as the greatest pimp of all time, paying him thousands upon thousands of dollars to screw his millions of Ukrainian prostitutes, and even more thousands of dollars to have free sex with his free sex women, who never ask for anything except to have your dick in their mouths, since Mordinson has the power and influence to talk all the women to sleep with you withnothing but a conversation to get them ready for sex.

Fantastic!!

Ash1001
12-17-08, 22:45
Hollis Sam, a.k.a Mr Mordinson, thanks for giving us all a good laugh.

I've always wondered why there isn't a dating 'service' to buy your web girlfriend a new mobile phone, so that she can block your calls when you try to phone her and SMS you that she's busy studying very hard for exams (even though it's 3am in mid June) and can you please send her $500 so that she can actually pass them :)

George Red
01-22-09, 16:13
Hollis Sam, a.k.a Mr Mordinson, thanks for giving us all a good laugh.

I've always wondered why there isn't a dating 'service' to buy your web girlfriend a new mobile phone, so that she can block your calls when you try to phone her and SMS you that she's busy studying very hard for exams (even though it's 3am in mid June) and can you please send her $500 so that she can actually pass them :)I am happy to see even one guy who really get the meaning.

Bravo

AColonizer
01-25-09, 15:10
I am interested in Kharkov and I have found these posts in Kiev thread: that is not their right place!

Shopping Center in Kharkov


If that's your whole plan, you better come up with something else. Especially during the winter! As far as shopping centers like the ones in Kiev, forget about it!

About a mile from the center on one road, there is a new department store where you can buy electronics. On another road from the center, there is a new big trendy clothing store. But you can't consider those in any way shopping centers like in Kiev.

There is one very large old style bazaar, of a hundred tiny kiosks selling belts, or shoes, or coats, all crammed together between tiny walk ways that you have to squeeze through.

There are small restaurants and small shops on Sumskaya and Pushkinskaya, where mostly pedestrians walk through the center on their way through their busy days.

The p4p scene there is only for locals, and you can visit the 4 "cat houses" that have their telephone number in the newspaper, but you must speak perfect russian, and the girls are mostly 23 to 27, mothers, ugly, fat, etc. You will probably find 1 cute one this way, but chances are likely that her attitude will NOT be any good.

If you're young, handsome, and your game is very sharp, and your russian is good, then your chances there are as good as anywhere else for freebies from cafes and parks, but don't expect girls to be outdoors in these places, until it warms up in the spring. And even then, you need to expect to invest a LOT of time. Offering $200 or more helps too. Was that part of your plan also?As far as I can remember there is one Karavan (?) you can go there only with taxi, 20 minutes via streets in very bad conditions. In center of Kharkov, I agree no shopping centers, at least not for my style. This Karavan is also in Kiev city and it seems is a chain of local shopping centers, however, with very high prices and not for the normal and common Ukraine people

PS Bez, I have big respect to your reports, really an expert in this region !!!!. Therefore, please correct me if I am wrong because these shopping centers are for me a good place for "hunting"

Bez Bezarra
01-28-09, 05:26
This Karavan is also in Kiev city and it seems is a chain of local shopping centers, however, with very high prices and not for the normal and common Ukraine people

PS Bez, correct me if I am wrong because these shopping centers are for me a good place for "hunting"



I think?

I don't know any Karavan, or any shopping center. Somewhere in the city, not in the center, but near it, I remember a new department store, and yes the prices were high, and there were some very well dressed rich girls shopping there. The only way they would have talked to me, is if I was very rich, AND if I spoke perfect Russian, or if I was very young and looked like a rock star.

The other place I was talking about, is a real bazaar, for local people to buy goods, shoes, hats, coats. I saw NO girls there. Only older people, doing real shopping. I said there are a few new clothing stores in the center.

What ever you were talking about, I have no idea. Kharkiv is NOT like Kiev, in any way. I just don't see it as a place to meet girls going shopping, like in the fancy Kiev malls.

You could try meeting girls in cafe's or parks?? You could try getting in line waiting for a bus, to talk to a girl. But you can do all that in Kiev, and in Kiev, there's MORE than twice as many girls, especially in Kreschatik, they are very friendly. In Kharkov, there is a big square, but now there's nothing to do there. Before there were kiosks and a carnival.

Maybe you have some good long term inside influential connections there with marriage and modeling agencies, and with the military academies or with the hospitals, or the technical factory training institutes? That would probably help, but it would still require massive amounts of time and luck.

So good luck with that. Kharkov's pretty dirty, too many chemical factories and industrial plants. Maybe that's your thing?

Maybe Voronezh, or Volgograd, have more hot girls, poor and more eager to try fucking foreigners? Ukraine girls seem used to the west now. Seems that way. I like russians better, still need a visa to go there, so.........

AColonizer
01-28-09, 10:58
Bez, have you become mad?

I never posted anything about Kharkov, except what you wrote in previous posts.

However I agree completely with you. Or better, now, you come to me.

What can I add about Kharkov? The first and the best Ukrainian girl, who I met in Italy, was from Kharkov with Urals origin, The legendary Marina Tokareva: oh Marina, where are you running now?


I think?

I don't know any Karavan, or any shopping center. Somewhere in the city, not in the center, but near it, I remember a new department store, and yes the prices were high, and there were some very well dressed rich girls shopping there. The only way they would have talked to me, is if I was very rich, AND if I spoke perfect Russian, or if I was very young and looked like a rock star.

The other place I was talking about, is a real bazaar, for local people to buy goods, shoes, hats, coats. I saw NO girls there. Only older people, doing real shopping. I said there are a few new clothing stores in the center.

What ever you were talking about, I have no idea. Kharkiv is NOT like Kiev, in any way. I just don't see it as a place to meet girls going shopping, like in the fancy Kiev malls.

You could try meeting girls in cafe's or parks?? You could try getting in line waiting for a bus, to talk to a girl. But you can do all that in Kiev, and in Kiev, there's MORE than twice as many girls, especially in Kreschatik, they are very friendly. In Kharkov, there is a big square, but now there's nothing to do there. Before there were kiosks and a carnival.

Maybe you have some good long term inside influential connections there with marriage and modeling agencies, and with the military academies or with the hospitals, or the technical factory training institutes? That would probably help, but it would still require massive amounts of time and luck.

So good luck with that. Kharkov's pretty dirty, too many chemical factories and industrial plants. Maybe that's your thing?

Maybe Voronezh, or Volgograd, have more hot girls, poor and more eager to try fucking foreigners? Ukraine girls seem used to the west now. Seems that way. I like russians better, still need a visa to go there, so.........

Sponsor74
01-28-09, 23:15
I think?

I don't know any Karavan, or any shopping center. Somewhere in the city, not in the center, but near it, I remember a new department store, and yes the prices were high, and there were some very well dressed rich girls shopping there. The only way they would have talked to me, is if I was very rich, AND if I spoke perfect Russian, or if I was very young and looked like a rock star.

The other place I was talking about, is a real bazaar, for local people to buy goods, shoes, hats, coats. I saw NO girls there. Only older people, doing real shopping. I said there are a few new clothing stores in the center.

What ever you were talking about, I have no idea. Kharkiv is NOT like Kiev, in any way. I just don't see it as a place to meet girls going shopping, like in the fancy Kiev malls.

You could try meeting girls in cafe's or parks?? You could try getting in line waiting for a bus, to talk to a girl. But you can do all that in Kiev, and in Kiev, there's MORE than twice as many girls, especially in Kreschatik, they are very friendly. In Kharkov, there is a big square, but now there's nothing to do there. Before there were kiosks and a carnival.

Maybe you have some good long term inside influential connections there with marriage and modeling agencies, and with the military academies or with the hospitals, or the technical factory training institutes? That would probably help, but it would still require massive amounts of time and luck.

So good luck with that. Kharkov's pretty dirty, too many chemical factories and industrial plants. Maybe that's your thing?

Maybe Voronezh, or Volgograd, have more hot girls, poor and more eager to try fucking foreigners? Ukraine girls seem used to the west now. Seems that way. I like russians better, still need a visa to go there, so.........



I don’t want to start WW III here now. Please check this.

http://rada.com.ua/eng/catalog/32773/

Bez Bezarra
01-29-09, 04:36
I don’t want to start WW III here now.



I'm simply saying I don't remember Karavan or ever saw it, because I only ever went to the city once, and that was about four years ago. I did see quite a bit, and I did go to all the other places I mentioned, just never saw or heard of any complex like this, or like in the Kiev center underground and Mandarin.

The description from the website does sound like the department store I mentioned in my first post anyway, shoes, and clothes, and another area to buy appliances and cd's. Big fucking deal! You think you're gonna find ots of hot girls in one stupid department store?? Good luck! Remember, its still fucking Kharkov!! Shithole of the east!! And what kind of address is that anyway? It sounds like the second floor of the Kharkov Hotel. I have seen that old building, and its a real dump!

I mainly went to all the old fashion style places, the bazaars, to buy groceries and such, open air style, not shopping mall style. I just found it too dirty, and the people very gritty and unfriendly. Too much shoving in the streets and metro. Horrible restaurants and cafes. No nightlife. No p4p. There are many nicer places in the FSU with sweeter ladies around. You can have it!!

George Red
01-29-09, 15:54
I'm simply saying I don't remember Karavan or ever saw it, because I only ever went to the city once, and that was about four years ago. I did see quite a bit, and I did go to all the other places I mentioned, just never saw or heard of any complex like this, or like in the Kiev center underground and Mandarin.

The description from the website does sound like the department store I mentioned in my first post anyway, shoes, and clothes, and another area to buy appliances and cd's. Big fucking deal! You think you're gonna find ots of hot girls in one stupid department store?? Good luck! Remember, its still fucking Kharkov!! Shithole of the east!! And what kind of address is that anyway? It sounds like the second floor of the Kharkov Hotel. I have seen that old building, and its a real dump!

I mainly went to all the old fashion style places, the bazaars, to buy groceries and such, open air style, not shopping mall style. I just found it too dirty, and the people very gritty and unfriendly. Too much shoving in the streets and metro. Horrible restaurants and cafes. No nightlife. No p4p. There are many nicer places in the FSU with sweeter ladies around. You can have it!!Karavan is an ordinary supermarket chain.

For sure is not a mall, is just another supermarket like a lot others.

Nothing special in Karavan.

Sponsor74
01-29-09, 23:00
I'm simply saying I don't remember Karavan or ever saw it, because I only ever went to the city once, and that was about four years ago. I did see quite a bit, and I did go to all the other places I mentioned, just never saw or heard of any complex like this, or like in the Kiev center underground and Mandarin.

The description from the website does sound like the department store I mentioned in my first post anyway, shoes, and clothes, and another area to buy appliances and cd's. Big fucking deal! You think you're gonna find ots of hot girls in one stupid department store?? Good luck! Remember, its still fucking Kharkov!! Shithole of the east!! And what kind of address is that anyway? It sounds like the second floor of the Kharkov Hotel. I have seen that old building, and its a real dump!

I mainly went to all the old fashion style places, the bazaars, to buy groceries and such, open air style, not shopping mall style. I just found it too dirty, and the people very gritty and unfriendly. Too much shoving in the streets and metro. Horrible restaurants and cafes. No nightlife. No p4p. There are many nicer places in the FSU with sweeter ladies around. You can have it!!


My approach is not going shopping there. Maybe some Vodka or typical issues. In general my opinion about Ukraine in shopping is not the best value for my money or maybe I don’t know the right places for shopping.
I agree some of these shopping Malls are for the local rich people; but they are not my target in respect of women. I look there for the girls working there; I assume their salaries are not the best and maybe some of them are looking for some extra money.

I have tried this there, but due to lack of time I ended with other women more on the professional side of this business. However, with the current difficult finance and political situation there, maybe good chances. How is opinion from experts in Ukraine? Some desperate normal women looking for some extra money in these places. If I am correct the salaries there are in average USD 300 to 500????

Street Sleuth
01-31-09, 18:29
Come on! I cannot believe that Kharkov is really such a remote area for mongering! First of all girls are prittier than in Kiev, okay it will be a more "sovietic" city than Kiev but. I go there 2-3 times a year and beeing not so active from mongering I donno so much except a strip bar called "night flyer" or something like that in Rose Luxembourg avenue. Any recommendation for escorts there?

Thanks

Kharkov is actually a nice city - the center of it, anyway - not excessively dirty and industrial, as mentioned elsewhere (at least, not by ukrainian standards).

Kharkov is also loaded with young, beautiful girls (shocker) - ok, this is true of most large ukrainian cities - but Kharkov has a higher cut, mainly due to large university presence.

Kharkov, however, is lacking when it comes to escorts. I've travelled around many parts of ukraine - the only 2 places I've found that you can reliably find escorts is Kiev, and, to a lesser degree, Odessa.

Girls looking to work in the P4P industry flock to those two areas (mainly Kiev)....that's where the demand is, and there's the added anonymity.

Not to say escorts don't exist elsewhere - they do, but just in much smaller numbers, often lower quality, and trickier contact methodology (fluent Russian absolutely necessary).

Sponsor74
01-31-09, 22:18
Kharkov is actually a nice city - the center of it, anyway - not excessively dirty and industrial, as mentioned elsewhere (at least, not by ukrainian standards).

Kharkov is also loaded with young, beautiful girls (shocker) - ok, this is true of most large ukrainian cities - but Kharkov has a higher cut, mainly due to large university presence.

Kharkov, however, is lacking when it comes to escorts. I've travelled around many parts of ukraine - the only 2 places I've found that you can reliably find escorts is Kiev, and, to a lesser degree, Odessa.

Girls looking to work in the P4P industry flock to those two areas (mainly Kiev)....that's where the demand is, and there's the added anonymity.

Not to say escorts don't exist elsewhere - they do, but just in much smaller numbers, often lower quality, and trickier contact methodology (fluent Russian absolutely necessary).


Agree with you. According to my information maybe the second or third largest city there. Yes I know a university city, therefore my goal are not the rich Ukraine women I wish them only good luck and they can fuck their rich men. My targets remain the same young students or qualified workers with low salaries BUT nice and sexy. Is Kharkov still a good destination under this approach? Any other recommendation is welcome

AColonizer
02-01-09, 13:02
Is fluent Russian necessary to have regular relationships with students? I mean, do Ukrainian people speak English when they want to cheat foreigners only?


Agree with you. According to my information maybe the second or third largest city there. Yes I know a university city, therefore my goal are not the rich Ukraine women I wish them only good luck and they can fuck their rich men. My targets remain the same young students or qualified workers with low salaries BUT nice and sexy. Is Kharkov still a good destination under this approach? Any other recommendation is welcome

Bez Bezarra
02-02-09, 04:13
My target remain students or qualified workers with low salaries BUT nice and sexy.

Is Kharkov still a good destination under this approach?



Ok, well students, and here we can also answer Aconzer's question about fluent russian being necessary, as your target. Are the university students waiting around for foreigners to come visit their city so that they can have sex with you?

Well, maybe that was true 10 or 15 years ago, when foreigners were something new and different. Now, foreigners are NOT new, different, or even interesting to Ukraine students. Just go stand around the University, and watch the students, they are all hanging around WITH EACH OTHER.

And for Colon-sizer, well no, SORRY, but they are not standing around speaking English!! Try going to Gainesville, Florida, on the UF campus, and see how many girls are hanging around the bookstore speaking Russian?
What I mean is, sure, if you go to one of the English CLASSES, you could probably carry on a VERY LIMITED conversation in English with a few girls, but the main majority of students are NOT taking English classes. As always, there are some exceptions, but for the most part, in Eastern Ukriane, the girls speak little or NO english.

And so yes, those student girls like those student boys, they are all dating each other. Ok, maybe some small percentage of the girls, maybe 10 or 15%, that are in need of sponsorship, are dating older local men, russian men, that they are comfortable with, men with local knowledge and local experience, and extra money to spend on them, JUST LIKE FEMALE UNIVERSITY STUDENTS DO IN ANY CITY IN THE WORLD!! They scope out the successful older guys, in their 30's and 40's, and hook up with THEM, because they speak THEIR language, they are FROM that city, so they know EXACTLY HOW to take care of them, THE WAY they want to be taken care of.

WHY would some student want a FOREIGN man, who is NOT gonna be around? These girls are not TRAMPS, looking around for some stranger to fuck and ditch. These are nice girls, so they want a discreet guy who knows whats what, to have on the side, to service, when they need money, that is to say, a sugar daddy. They no longer have that fascination for us that they had in the first few years after the Soviet Union fell apart. As has been said so many times, but you seem to keep forgetting, THOSE DAYS ARE LONG GONE!! Yes, even in places like Kharkov.

Sure, sure, there are always a few girls, that might be the exception, but are you really gonna base your whole reason for going there, on the hopes that there are a few exceptions???

ok, now your last great hope, qualified workers with low salaries. well, you can be sure that they ALL have low salaries, this is a guarantee. What is the percentage of cute girls working in the supermarkets and shops, that's anybody's guess, but let's just say, 40%, with the other 60% just sort of the plain jane type?

Now, getting to the meat of the question. How many of them are ready and waiting for some foreign guy to walk righ up and ask them out, with the sole reason that they are gonna accept money for sex?

You see, this is the problem. These girls, again, most of them, sure there will be exceptions, but these girls, simply by the fact that they are going off to work every day, in meaningless jobs, means that they have some degree of honor and self-respect. If they didn't they would be getting drunk every night with their girlfriends or their boyfriends, and living off their relatives or someone, without any ambition or purpose AT ALL.

So realistically, you gotta hope that MAYBE 20 % of those 40% of the cute girls will have low enough morals, that they'll be tramps of the sort that you can score with. So 20% of 40% comes out to about 8% of the total.

So again,.... 8% of shop girls, is what you are gonna base your hopes on?

CONCLUSION: You need a better plan, pal.

Moliere
02-02-09, 05:49
You see, this is the problem. These girls, again, most of them, sure there will be exceptions, but these girls, simply by the fact that they are going off to work every day, in meaningless jobs, means that they have some degree of honor and self-respect. If they didn't they would be getting drunk every night with their girlfriends or their boyfriends, and living off their relatives or someone, without any ambition or purpose AT ALL.

So realistically, you gotta hope that MAYBE 20 % of those 40% of the cute girls will have low enough morals, that they'll be tramps of the sort that you can score with. So 20% of 40% comes out to about 8% of the total.

So again,.... 8% of shop girls, is what you are gonna base your hopes on?


A lot of common sense contained in that post!

A related point: yes, it would be great to find one of those girls, but aside from the fact that they are a small percentage, you have to consider that they are the one's who DO get up in the morning and go to work. They are not out to all hours exercising your box springs. In fact, on what they earn, they may well live with their parents and actually have to be home by 11pm at night! (A situation I have encountered first hand.)

Consider the other, related jewel of wisdom here: it's the girls who are totally irresponsible -- who don't work and who don't really study -- who will give you their phone number, promise to meet you for coffee, and then stand you up. So the ones with very loose morals are not even very dependable if you are willing to "sponsor" on a per event basis.

Having said all that...a lot of the girls in the shops are very pretty and it's easy to empathize with a guy who builds his strategy on the triumph of hope over experience.

LifeSavour
02-02-09, 06:00
Ok, well students, . Is the percentage of cute girls working in the supermarkets and shops, that's anybody's guess, but let's just say, 40%, with the other 60% just sort of the plain jane type?

CONCLUSION: You need a better plan, pal.The very average, plain Jane types. I mean, they too have wonderful, young bodies. And they do appreciate YOU more. And they do not cost so much. And.

I find them MORE submissive. This IS what I desire!

NO Attitude!

Bez Bezarra
02-02-09, 13:23
A lot of the girls in the shops are very pretty

it's easy to empathize with a guy who builds his strategy on the triumph of hope over experience.



I don't care what you say now, my hassling days are OVER!

I would have to say that your amazon dyev is slightly more than a plain jane. She certainly has a special quality, the one that comes to mind first, is the nasty way she loses control of her hips when her clit is getting sucked on.

And in one post, you just exceeded those overly protective semi-cowardly mongers that refuse to post anything frontal except from the neck down!!

BRAV-O!!!

As for Mole's comment on the quality of 'shop' dyevushkas, its hard to disagree with a guy who is empathizing with me, however, I really don't think they measure up to the average women observed walking around the streets and on the subway. Yes, yes, there are some, but most of them do little for me, and I simply do not make a habit of chatting them up. Primarily because they are usually busy, don't speak ANY English, and can get into trouble from their boss for talking to customers about meeting later for a date. They also can get looked down upon by their co-workers, for giving encouragement to a sex-seeking foreigner's pick-up attempts. They know full well, that it is only proper in Ukrainian society, to politely refuse men's advances, at the workplace. Except of course, if its their boss!!

Now for me, the cutest dyev's are by far, the restaurant and cafe waitresses!! Yes, yes, there are many plain janes here too, BUT......, this is the Bez source of most of my hook-ups. Waitresses are SUPPOSED to constantly get offers for dates, so its normal to talk to men at work. Another dyev pool, are ladies sitting at other tables, in cafes and restaurants, provided they aren't with men at the time! I think its perfectly ok, to even ask your waitress to pass over your business card with a note, to a dyev at another table.

But do NOT forget, if any of you think that this is EASY???? you are very sadly mistaken. Be ready for a 90 to 95% failure rate!

Remember, hope over experience.

Never give up!

But also, go east, east I say. Russia still rules. Kharkov ain't cheap no more netiher. Even a driver will run you $25-$30 per hour these days.

Bizoh
02-02-09, 16:17
Wow! Just when I'm back this thread livens up.

I managed one P4P and one effective sponsorship in six days. So at least my nuts didn't explode with a lack of action (as per my first visit in 2006). Strippers seem to be feeling the crisis and as I understand it going back to old ways of hooking decent johns in their clubs.

The first was at the tawdry club upstairs next to the Hotel Kharkov. On the first visit I complained that the music was way too loud; on my second I appreciated the cover-up to heavy breathing as we moaned and groaned our way to climax. Or was it just mine? Anyway that was a first on a stripclub banquette And jolly decent it was too. Natasha 24ish, big breasted, Chinese character tattoo on the small of the back and a very welcoming manner for USD100.

Next was a more drawn out date with Meyer. Stripper at the FlashDance Club (anyone got the exact address of that as mislaid the card? ). Dances with white collar and cuffs though naturally has none herself. On Friday she slipped out of work at 12 so we could club until 04 whereupon we went home via the all-night Spa for scotch/coke and vodka/tonic. Back at the flat a totally professional working girl manner took over getting me naked, washed and flat on my back for the most brillant BBBJTC. Probably the best of my life actually as being very tired, quite drunk and nervous not even the viagra was doing its stuff, but her tip-top skill (total mouth contact, constant hand action, moans of desire and no stop to finishing) just brought me off in a way. In a way I am recommending to anyone in Kharkov! Cost was the request for a new pair of shoes and a matching suit for about USD200.

As to picking up a shopgirls etc Its not impossible to find an English speaking girl who will meet and maybe more. Had some success chatting and dinning with a pharmacist in 2006 but was not going to be allowed to go all the way until I had proved my worth. Which time did not permit. This trip being winter arranged a local marriage agency to set up a series of meetings. Most of which were 7 or 8 type 21yr old local students. However, only a tiny minority were prepared to speak any English at all making their female fluent translators more emotionally attractive than the subject. With some consistent effort perhapa some of these might well translate into success, sponsored or not. But it would be quite an effort.

I visited the two major clubs albeit with the date so was not exactly roving, yet it was obvious that while there are many very pretty and some truly beautiful women in the city they don't either pack out or stay late at the clubs. Quite where they are I didn't find out. Maybe getting early nights in order to keep their jobs as fear is in the air.

The crisis is definitely hurting there and will force a change in habit. I knocked my driver (4x4) down to USD12ph and would therefore expect far more sponsorship opportunities to arise. Especially out of the strippers In 2006 they were all above such tricks, and probably would be again if the economy recovers so, now is the window of opportunity. However, its more like a slit than a window (if you'll forgive the pun) and there must be richer pickings in the Ukraine than Kharkov.

Oh and without any Russian (as I am) it really takes a fair dose of luck.

Bizoh

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Bez Bezarra
02-03-09, 13:11
Just back had six days in Kharkov.

Maybe there must be richer pickings in the Ukraine than Kharkov.

Biz



Bizoh is no clown, no amatuer. He's a monger that knows whats what.

So here it is, 6 days, and no student, no waitress, no shop girl.

And this was NOT his first time there.

So............

What I'm trying to tell you, is that, there is something to the fact that, it still requires an invitation, and a visa, and to register with the police, when you travel to the Russian provinces. If its more difficult to get there, then perhaps there are simply LESS mongers there????

Hmmm...... ;)

Ash1001
02-03-09, 15:06
Bez, are you in Siberia at the moment?

I heard Novosibirsk is -30 degrees Celsius. More reason to keep warm.

Kob00
09-30-09, 17:26
Does anyone have any good knowledge in Kharkov where are the good freebie locations?

Any idea about Moroccan girls there?

Volpone
04-12-10, 17:27
"hi, can you suggest a cheap place for accommodation in Kharkov(better if near shevchenko prospect)? and which newspapers and places are good for sex in Kharkov? Thanks. "

Hello Acolonizer,

The newspaper is "Premer". That's a newspaper only with adds....in Russian. Inside it you will find some phone numbers and then if you call them they will give you the adress...
You can find some old adresses, places I went a few years ago...Just have a look at my old posts of 2006...However it's better if you make a phone call and try to get the adresses....

Some cheap apartments to rent :
http://ukraineapartments.com/apartments

AColonizer
04-12-10, 18:20
I`m curious, but did you know Marina, from Kharkov, at a gasoline station near Treviso?


"hi, can you suggest a cheap place for accommodation in Kharkov(better if near shevchenko prospect)? and which newspapers and places are good for sex in Kharkov? Thanks. "

Hello Acolonizer,

The newspaper is "Premer". That's a newspaper only with adds....in Russian. Inside it you will find some phone numbers and then if you call them they will give you the adress...
You can find some old adresses, places I went a few years ago...Just have a look at my old posts of 2006...However it's better if you make a phone call and try to get the adresses....

Some cheap apartments to rent :
http://ukraineapartments.com/apartments

Volpone
04-15-10, 18:05
All the apartments I went was in the center.
I tried to go to one in a suburb linked with the tube, but I couldn't find the place...
I don't remember a "Marina", but you know they could say another name. Furthermore it was a few years ago, so I even don't remember the name...
I always call them first to get the adress and I always speak in Russian never in English...Even if my Russian sucks, they could understand me and I could get the adress...
In some apartments they might agree to send a girl to your apartment, in some not. Last time I was there, however, they seem to prefer that you go to their place than sending someone over...

Worldwinder
04-29-10, 07:30
LIfesavour,

How do I get in touch with Flat-bi in Kharkiv?


The very average, plain Jane types. I mean, they too have wonderful, young bodies. And they do appreciate YOU more. And they do not cost so much. And.

I find them MORE submissive. This IS what I desire!

NO Attitude!

LifeSavour
05-01-10, 09:13
And I have never been to Kharkiv?

PS: I prefer big Busts!!! Even though I lived with 'pencil erasers' in Kyiv!

Abraxas
06-23-10, 15:41
Been a few days in Kharkiv recently, here is my report:

I found the city very pleasant, unlike what people (mostly Ukrainians living in Kiev) say, with lots of parks and reasonably priced places to drink and eat, etc.

Girls are really impressive, in my opinion better than in Kiev. Many ethnic Russians and a population of 300.000 students... go figure out. You can easily see many 9s and even 10s on streets.

Clubs: went to an upmarket place called Radmir, there was a Miss Fashion-something contest, I could hardly see any difference between the beauties on the stage and those on the dance floor! They also have a karaoke common room and a kind of casino. Did not look for P4P as I was with my local contact, but my impression is that it was certainly available.

Another place to try is Bolero (resto-bar and disco). Gets lively only after 12. Scores of beauties, many (unfortunately) accompanied by guys sitting at the tables. The dance floor is however full of them and you might try ur luck. Many gals going out in groups too. P4P definitely available, but quality so and so (at least on Wed. nite). You will have to exercise your skills here to score the best chicks (knowing Russian will help; regrettably it was not my case).

Another club I have been told about is Misto. Did not check the (infamous) strip-clubs. All the above clubs are outside the city centre.

Internet contacts: I got a very nice freebie GF for a few days, met on a dating site, as well as two other dates. My impression is that with a normal girl who likes u, sex will happen after the second or third date (as in the first case), otherwise kiss and touch on the second date (as in the other two... perhaps more could have happened but it was already time to go!). Only one girl was from Mamba. You guys who do not speak Russian beware: I got one reply every 10 messages sent, and 1 actual meeting on about a hundred messages sent (no joking!). All in all a waste of time. I am in my late 20s and reasonably good looking so the only way to explain such a high failure rate is my almost non-existent command of Russian. I was not looking for prostitutes on the site, but the prices they asked for were in the range of 300 UAH/hour. Cheap, but not sure about quality and some did surely have fake photos.

You might try with girls on the streets, parks or restaurants (why bother with waitresses or shop girls?), but do expect a high failure rate. Many will invariably ask why you are in Kharkov and if you say "holiday’’ will immediately know the real reason... I did the mistake but the girls liked me anyway so who cares!

It was not as easy as I expected, you definitely need time to score normal girls but the reward is high. The situation might change soon (not sure if for the better or the worst) as new international flights will be available before 2010.

Good luck!

Prosal
09-09-10, 19:03
Kharkov from 11 November till 10 January.

Abraxas's inspiring report, Kurenda and Latexian2 wise advices, and my affinity for tall and slender East Ukraine beauties made me stop procrastinating about where to go this winter, to get to this unexplored heaven. Yeah. Two fucking months to party and chase girls in Kharkov!!

Booked with a 20% deposit a three rooms apartment (with jacuzi and sauna!!) in the center for 1400us$/month. Not especially cheap compared to Tashkent, but still humanely priced compared to most other places in FSU. Anyone already dealed with http://ukraineapartments.com BTW? ...no particular problems?

Prosal
09-09-10, 19:18
Another place to try is Bolero (resto-bar and disco). Gets lively only after 12. Scores of beauties, many (unfortunately) accompanied by guys sitting at the tables. The dance floor is however full of them and you might try ur luck. Many gals going out in groups too. P4P definitely available, but quality so and so (at least on Wed. nite). You will have to exercise your skills here to score the best chicks (knowing Russian will help; regrettably it was not my case).

Another club I have been told about is Misto. Did not check the (infamous) strip-clubs.Made a a bit of search on net. Bolero and Misto don't seem bad indeed. Armaggedon also. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wni4p8K1ts
http://mistoclub.com/club/disco/video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK1QV4nbO4M


you definitely need time to score normal girls but the reward is high..Right on. One week or ten days is just not long enough to have a decent trip in FSU. A month is ideal in my opinion. Two monthes is better.


You might try with girls on the streets, parks or restaurants (why bother with waitresses or shop girls?), but do expect a high failure rate. Many will invariably ask why you are in Kharkov and if you say "holiday’’ will immediately know the real reason....+1. With every girl, the first question (if they can speak some English) is "Why are you in [Chisinau/Tashkent/Donetsk/ect]? " If you don't have a "legitimate" answer like, "I'm here on business", from my experience, they will blow you off. Answers like "tourist" or "want to see a different culture" will NOT work for you. They will assume (correctly so) that you are here to fuck girls. Period. The girls are NOT stupid and they know the deal.

The number one thing I personally say to a internet potential freebie when I plan to go somewhere (or when I meet a girl on site) is that I come to visit an "old friend who works at the embassy" (or "at the Alliance Francaise", that has some 1100 branches in the world, incl. One in Kharkov) or this kind of BS. This effectively allows not only to find excuses for evenings and nights out without her, but also brushs aside the suspicion of sex-tourism.

Bez Bezarra
09-10-10, 03:34
The number one thing I say to a internet potential freebie is that I come to visit an old friend who works at the embassy.Alliance Frenchy? What's that? Ecole'?

Why don't you just speak Ukrainian to them?

Prosal
09-11-10, 19:41
Alliance Frenchy? What's that? Ecole'?Why the fuck do you want to know what are Alliances?

Anyway, Alliance Francaise is not only a french high school. It's an organization whose mission is to promote french language and culture outside France. Its primary concern is teaching french as a second language and organizing cultural events. There's about 1150 locations in 130 different countries. In a place like Brasil, which is keen on french culture, there's some 80 Alliances throughout the country (six only in Rio de Janeiro!). When I used to travel extensively there, Alliances Francaises were among my favorite hunting grounds. There was always plenty of meninas eager to talk with a cosmopolitan french traveller.

As Russian elites have always been exceedingly "francophile", there's also a significant number of Alliances in Russia.

http://www.afrus.ru/rus/af

Note to self: as there's an Alliance in Kharkov, not forgetting to visit it to promote cordial international physical relations between people of France and Ukraine.

Prosal
09-17-10, 09:50
Clubs.Made a a bit of search on net. Bolero and Misto don't seem bad indeed. Armaggedon also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wni4p8K1ts
http://mistoclub.com/club/disco/video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK1QV4nbO4M

Luis1
09-20-10, 13:21
"Anyway, Alliance Francaise is not only a french high school. It's an organization whose mission is to promote french language and culture outside France."

And where there is not even an alliance, Prosal is there to promote this famous french "art the vivre ", although Woodman has also been doing a great job for years !

Mystery77
06-05-11, 01:10
When I was in Kiev I met some girls from Kharkov. Is Kharkov worth a travel? I have been invited for some play.

Even better yet, on the way to Kharkov from Kiev. Any good stop off's for the night! On route give or take a mile.

Like a nightclub, stripbar, hotel for agency or private call recommended, roadside dinner with topless waitresses.

Future plans.

TheKnight
06-07-11, 01:22
When I was in Kiev I met some girls from Kharkov. Is Kharkov worth a travel? I have been invited for some play.

Even better yet, on the way to Kharkov from Kiev. Any good stop off's for the night! On route give or take a mile.

Like a nightclub, stripbar, hotel for agency or private call recommended, roadside dinner with topless waitresses.

Future plans. Kharkiv's worth a visit. My ex GF lived there, so I did not have much chance to hobby. But it's a big student city, and freebies are very easy judging by the amount of eye contact flirting I discreetly managed. Couple of strip bars there, and Stare Gorod (old Town) is a wonderful bier-kellar type hall.

Poltava is a decent stop off city, but not sure of action. It's quite a large place so bound to be some, but some Russian almost essential here.

Juicyfruit
06-07-11, 09:34
Kharkiv's worth a visit. My ex GF lived there, so I did not have much chance to hobby. But it's a big student city, and freebies are very easy judging by the amount of eye contact flirting I discreetly managed. Couple of strip bars there, and Stare Gorod (old Town) is a wonderful bier-kellar type hall.

Poltava is a decent stop off city, but not sure of action. It's quite a large place so bound to be some, but some Russian almost essential here. Thanks Knight, I heard similar stories, might check it out soon.

Reiner Otto
06-07-11, 16:42
Poltava is a decent stop off city, but not sure of action. It's quite a large place so bound to be some, but some Russian almost essential here.In Poltava, the Museum of Aircrafts is worth a visit. There the last of the Ukrainian TU-160 strategic bombers is on display. A real beauty of an aircraft. NATO code Blackjack, Russian nickname: "White Swan". Look up the tech specs or search on youtube for a video ...

Mystery77
06-07-11, 22:26
Kharkiv's worth a visit. My ex GF lived there, so I did not have much chance to hobby. But it's a big student city, and freebies are very easy judging by the amount of eye contact flirting I discreetly managed. Couple of strip bars there, and Stare Gorod (old Town) is a wonderful bier-kellar type hall.

Poltava is a decent stop off city, but not sure of action. It's quite a large place so bound to be some, but some Russian almost essential here. Great heads up! I now will make definite efforts towards the direction of Kharkov come the time =)

If you are around we must get together for some chat or clubs.

TheKnight
06-09-11, 23:44
Great heads up! I now will make definite efforts towards the direction of Kharkov come the time =)

If you are around we must get together for some chat or clubs. Sure, give me a shout when you're planning to go, and if we can coincide diaries would be good. Current GF is in Kyiv, so I can always say a business trip calls me to Kharkiv. 6 hours on the express train!

Or maybe meet in Kyiv first to make sure we can stand each other's company for the long trip.) Back in August.

Russel4339
06-19-11, 14:01
Anyone coming to Kharkov who has questions, let me know. I have lived here about a year and know the city fairly well. I know the mongering scene a little, but usually don't partake because I have made friends with many ladies who are friends and love good sex. Not sure that they find that here much. However, I can help with questions on where to stay, where to go, general feel of the area, that kind of thing.

Toptraveler1
06-20-11, 20:56
Do you think August can be a good period for Kharkov? Is it easy to approach girls in Kharkov?


Anyone coming to Kharkov who has questions, let me know. I have lived here about a year and know the city fairly well. I know the mongering scene a little, but usually don't partake because I have made friends with many ladies who are friends and love good sex. Not sure that they find that here much. However, I can help with questions on where to stay, where to go, general feel of the area, that kind of thing.

Harry Hirsch
06-21-11, 08:48
Do you think August can be a good period for Kharkov? Is it easy to approach girls in Kharkov?It isn't, Kharkiv is a student city, in Juli and August the most students at home and in Holiday.

September, is a good time.

Russel4339
07-24-11, 13:31
do you think august can be a good period for kharkov? is it easy to approach girls in kharkov?sorry. haven't logged in a awhile. been on travel.

first. august a good time? i am not sure. harry hirsch is correct. it is a student city. however, i have not noticed any fall off in the number of women available. august is a good time to sit in the park with a beer and just watch women walk by in shorts or short dresses. (and they always dress well over here.)

is it easy to approach girls in kharkov? i think the answer to that is "maybe". how good is your russian? if it is even relatively minimal, they will work with you. at clubs you can find women. also, ask one of your ukrainian friends or even the right taxi driver.

if you are coming to kharkov, there is a site "mamba. kiev. ua". they have a english version. there you can search for all types of women of all ages. this is not a website for escorts. but about 1/4 of the women there are probably offering money for sex. (some are very direct in this, some are not. but you can read between the lines. for example: a 24 year old who wants to meet with 50 year olds for one-night stand. duh). i have met many ladies from this site.

if you don't speak russian. use a translator. i speak some russian but still use a translator for speed.

kharkov is somewhat conservative town. you will not find a lot of strip clubs, there are a few places where sw hang out. but there is a lot of interesting action in town, some of it underground, for those intrepid enough to visit.

Russel4339
07-24-11, 13:38
do you think august can be a good period for kharkov? is it easy to approach girls in kharkov?sorry. haven't logged in a awhile. been on travel.

first. august a good time? i am not sure. harry hirsch is correct. it is a student city. however, i have not noticed any fall off in the number of women available. august is a good time to sit in the park with a beer and just watch women walk by in shorts or short dresses. (and they always dress well over here.)

is it easy to approach girls in kharkov? i think the answer to that is "maybe". how good is your russian? if it is even relatively minimal, they will work with you. at clubs you can find women. also, ask one of your ukrainian friends or even the right taxi driver.

if you are coming to kharkov, there is a site "mamba. kiev. ua". they have a english version. there you can search for all types of women of all ages. this is not a website for escorts. but about 1/4 of the women there are probably offering money for sex. (some are very direct in this, some are not. but you can read between the lines. for example: a 24 year old who wants to meet with 50 year olds for one-night stand. duh). i have met many ladies from this site.

if you don't speak russian. use a translator. i speak some russian but still use a translator for speed.

kharkov is somewhat conservative town. you will not find a lot of strip clubs, there are a few places where sw hang out. but there is a lot of interesting action in town, some of it underground, for those intrepid enough to visit.

Mystery77
08-16-11, 20:07
sorry. haven't logged in a awhile. been on travel.

first. august a good time? i am not sure. harry hirsch is correct. it is a student city. however, i have not noticed any fall off in the number of women available. august is a good time to sit in the park with a beer and just watch women walk by in shorts or short dresses. (and they always dress well over here.)

is it easy to approach girls in kharkov? i think the answer to that is "maybe". how good is your russian? if it is even relatively minimal, they will work with you. at clubs you can find women. also, ask one of your ukrainian friends or even the right taxi driver.

if you are coming to kharkov, there is a site "mamba. kiev. ua". they have a english version. there you can search for all types of women of all ages. this is not a website for escorts. but about 1/4 of the women there are probably offering money for sex. (some are very direct in this, some are not. but you can read between the lines. for example: a 24 year old who wants to meet with 50 year olds for one-night stand. duh). i have met many ladies from this site.

if you don't speak russian. use a translator. i speak some russian but still use a translator for speed.

kharkov is somewhat conservative town. you will not find a lot of strip clubs, there are a few places where sw hang out. but there is a lot of interesting action in town, some of it underground, for those intrepid enough to visit.nice, what do you think one could pick up a good apartment in the centre for? jacuzzi spacious doublebed etc etc you know the drill. not those well overpriced online agents. a cool place to impress as you know.

Boonie2002
09-08-11, 03:13
Hey,

Over the years and many travels, I've been in quite a lot of places where there is action: In legal brothels in Nevada, Bangkok, Paris, Amsterdam, Montreal, Pattaya, Amsterdam, Tijuana, L. A. And S. F, Buenos Aires and couple of other remote places as well. As I usually goes around this place for travel (not all as you can see some of the destination) , I'm usually busy with some stuff and the part about girls comes as the extra to make some fun. Being not of the hunter type with so little time to spend for this, I usually need a fast way to get to the business. Let me tell you, Kharkov is really frustrating. But I do mean it. The pro scene is absolutely DEAD. There are NO escort agency whatsoever, the ads for personals are in Russian, you need to subscribe to sites and send messages and hope to get an answer. You need to go through some kind of dating, which I have no time (or will) to go through. So yes, Kharkiv as a really high number of beautiful women. But it brings along a lot of frustration. It reminds me when I was 18yo and couldn't get all the girls I wanted but had a strong strong libido. So yes, if you are willing to be extremely adventurous, really dedicated, you will get something, like in ANY city of this planet. But the point is, for a city that big, there is obviously something going on that prevent from delivering this kind of service I'm used to in big cities. On the bright side, partying is really active and woman as I said earlier are amazingly beautiful. Have fun but drop the idea of waving easily on an ocean of girls. For me to take time to write this review as I'm still in Kharkiv is to tell you how much free time I have.

Russel4339
11-10-11, 23:37
Boonie2002. Kharkov has a very active scene if you know where to look. I have lived here a couple of years and found out that, while not obvious, women are available.

Look at the site Mamba. Kiev. Ua. This website has thousands of ladies from Kharkov on it. It isn't a site for escorts, but about 20% of the women, especially the younger women, that are on the site offer services. You can view the site in English. Some of their own text will still be in Russian.

Look for the phase "I want to find a sponsor" under the category Material Support. Also. If they are seeking one-night stands. If you don't speak Russian, look for a girl who speaks English.

You will have to create a Mamba account, but that is easy. Simply send them a nice message that you would like to meet. Look for a girl who is online, also. Just to be sure you get a response. They will write back or send you a telephone number. Somewhere between 300. 800 hryvna later, you are good to go. .

If you have time. The girls who are not looking for actual relationships there do take some time to get to know, but are well worth the effort.

There is an active street scene too, if you are looking for something quick. These girls speak enough English to get your point across. I know a few of the places. Write me if you want more information.

Spanish Main
11-11-11, 09:31
Boonie2002, I see that it was your first report when you were explaining your frustrations.

If, in the future, you come to this forum regularly and research wherever it is you will be visiting you, will always find some useful advice as to where to go or contact who will have a beer and help you.

Escort agencies are the expensive route for the uninformed tourist; many of us here. Such as Russel4339. Are more than willing to provide local knowledge that will find you a better service, with better girls, at local prices.

Member #4274
11-11-11, 09:56
Boonie2002. Kharkov has a very active scene if you know where to look. I have lived here a couple of years and found out that, while not obvious, women are available.

Look at the site Mamba. Kiev. Ua. This website has thousands of ladies from Kharkov on it. It isn't a site for escorts, but about 20% of the women, especially the younger women, that are on the site offer services. You can view the site in English. Some of their own text will still be in Russian.

Look for the phase "I want to find a sponsor" under the category Material Support. Also. If they are seeking one-night stands. If you don't speak Russian, look for a girl who speaks English.

You will have to create a Mamba account, but that is easy. Simply send them a nice message that you would like to meet. Look for a girl who is online, also. Just to be sure you get a response. They will write back or send you a telephone number. Somewhere between 300. 800 hryvna later, you are good to go. .

If you have time. The girls who are not looking for actual relationships there do take some time to get to know, but are well worth the effort.

There is an active street scene too, if you are looking for something quick. These girls speak enough English to get your point across. I know a few of the places. Write me if you want more information.This is great news! I am planning a 4-6 week trip to the FSU in late March / early April. I have narrowed down the cities I wish to visit to Minsk, Nizhny-Novgorod and Kharkov. I already have friends in all three cities and its just a matter of deciding where I will go. Kharkov is a univeristy city with TONS of studentka's strolling about. I really wish to spend a couple weeks there at least. I have read various reports in this thread about how Kharkov is hit and miss but I really believe with some hard work and time a fellow can do well in Kharkov. I'm sure I can land a few freebies in that time period. People have told me it is better to go to Odessa than Kharkov but I don't believe it is true.

Hardlong
11-13-11, 23:39
I had 2 vastly different experiences in Kharkov recently. Both of them were reached on mamba. Ru. One of them is just plain weird. The other was wonderful.

The first one, Ms Weird. 27 years old, responded very directly, asking me what I liked in sex in the first response from her (my message was just proposing to meet, nothing else). Upon meeting her at a nearby cafe, I felt a bit weird also. She was very much into sex as an art form, wanting to talk about erotica. The way that she dressed was also odd, unlike most women in Kharkov. From the conversation, she was very interested in ethnic clothes. Back to my hotel, she wanted to watch porn with me. We then got on to her stroking me, and then fucking with porn in the background. Right after sex, she just got up, got dressed and went! In return for a fuck, she wanted a "gift" (her terminology, not mine) of UAH 300. It was the weirdest fuck I've ever had!

The second, Ms Wonderful. 20 years old, was simply wonderful. She was tall, blond, very beautiful. She definitely carried herself well. We had a great time together, very much a GFE. We did it in several different ways, and we had a great time playing and laughing together also. She stayed for the night, leaving quite late in the morning. I gave her USD 300. I will definitely get together with Ms Wonderful again.

Gergiev
11-14-11, 03:44
I had 2 vastly different experiences in Kharkov recently. Both of them were reached on mamba. Ru. One of them is just plain weird. The other was wonderful.

The first one, Ms Weird. 27 years old, responded very directly, asking me what I liked in sex in the first response from her (my message was just proposing to meet, nothing else). Upon meeting her at a nearby cafe, I felt a bit weird also. She was very much into sex as an art form, wanting to talk about erotica. The way that she dressed was also odd, unlike most women in Kharkov. From the conversation, she was very interested in ethnic clothes. Back to my hotel, she wanted to watch porn with me. We then got on to her stroking me, and then fucking with porn in the background. Right after sex, she just got up, got dressed and went! In return for a fuck, she wanted a "gift" (her terminology, not mine) of UAH 300. It was the weirdest fuck I've ever had!

The second, Ms Wonderful. 20 years old, was simply wonderful. She was tall, blond, very beautiful. She definitely carried herself well. We had a great time together, very much a GFE. We did it in several different ways, and we had a great time playing and laughing together also. She stayed for the night, leaving quite late in the morning. I gave her USD 300. I will definitely get together with Ms Wonderful again.

Hardlong, struggling to see what your difficulty was.

In the first instance, you met a lady that probably operates on a not dissimilar frequency to our (male) own, all be it with a "gratuity" at the end of the encounter that cost you a mere 300Gv which equates to a mere taxi fare or two to the likes of "us".

On the other end of the scale, you had a more standard w***ish transaction with "Ms Wonderful" with the requisite (western European style) fee attached.

Seems to me that both experiences were to be savoured for their own idiosyncrasies.

Surely if you encountered a female in your own town like the "Ms Weird/27 year old" you came across, it would be cause for enjoyment rather than deliberation?

Could be construed that maybe you think Ukrainian Dyevs are there simply for our casual consumerism rather than having minds and sexualities of their own?

VG

Blaked
03-01-12, 13:19
I've decided to visit Kharkiv for a weekend . I'm in Lviv at the moment and the P4P action is hard to find here. There's a place called Hotel Galicia south of the city but it caters to truckers. I ducked out of a flat where some 35-ish "crocodile" wanted me to pay 450 UAH per hour. No thanks.

Relax-portal. Com seems like a good site for hobag listings. It seems better than dosug. CZ or intim-city. Com. Has anyone found anything better? I usually don't bother with Mamba. Too much time and energy. I want to find a good brothel to go to for about $50 / hour. Relax has a few but there are no reviews. I'm planning on renting an apartment. There are plenty of 'posutochno' (daily rental) apartments in Harkov. Has anyone had any luck with the brothels there?

Thanks

Horny Monger
03-18-12, 03:11
I've decided to visit Kharkiv for a weekend. I'm in Lviv at the moment and the P4P action is hard to find here. There's a place called Hotel Galicia south of the city but it caters to truckers. I ducked out of a flat where some 35-ish "crocodile" wanted me to pay 450 UAH per hour. No thanks.

Relax-portal. Com seems like a good site for hobag listings. It seems better than dosug. CZ or intim-city. Com. Has anyone found anything better? I usually don't bother with Mamba. Too much time and energy. I want to find a good brothel to go to for about $50 / hour. Relax has a few but there are no reviews. I'm planning on renting an apartment. There are plenty of 'posutochno' (daily rental) apartments in Harkov. Has anyone had any luck with the brothels there?

ThanksThere some apartments with girls there. The prices are cheap.

Member #4491
03-25-12, 22:35
Anyone coming to Kharkov who has questions, let me know.Hi Russel and thank you for this kind offer. I will travel to Kiev and Kharkov in early April and have started to traverse this thread for some useful information. Have one Mamba girl in Kharkov that I plan to see, but "no sex on the first date" so she will require a little bit of work, but this is just fun. She promised to show me her crappy boarding house and all her female board mates. I think I know how that will end.

If you have any advice for a fall back, this would be most appreciated. Not sure I want to hunt streetwalkers in the Kharkov night, but perhaps a brothel or massage place? I rarely go above 23-24 year old girls and hope to be able to be just as picky in Kharkov. Any advice on good clubs to pick up non working girls?

Any advice on an apartment that is located in a strategic spot, and that can be booked online, would also be most welcomed.

Thank you!

B.

Irish Lad
03-28-12, 00:44
Have one Mamba girl in Kharkov that I plan to see, but "no sex on the first date" so she will require a little bit of work, but this is just fun.

B.Tell her it's her only date)

Good clubs are Misto.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SotBImj19qo

And Bolero. As always in Ukraine a mix of semipros and nonpros.

Jojosun
03-28-12, 13:01
There some apartments with girls there. The prices are cheap.Where? . Telephone Numbers, Addresses, Links?

Thanks

BTW, when I was in Minsk, some guys told me that Kharkov was even cheaper than minsk, Belarus.

Member #4491
03-29-12, 11:50
Tell her it's her only dateHahaha. Good advice.

Thank's IL.

What approximate prices applies in Kharkov for LT and ST?

B.

Cruiser D
03-29-12, 15:33
Line up ten more girls to meet. You will be lucky if two follow through with the meeting.


Hi Russel and thank you for this kind offer. I will travel to Kiev and Kharkov in early April and have started to traverse this thread for some useful information. Have one Mamba girl in Kharkov that I plan to see, but "no sex on the first date" so she will require a little bit of work, but this is just fun. She promised to show me her crappy boarding house and all her female board mates. I think I know how that will end.

If you have any advice for a fall back, this would be most appreciated. Not sure I want to hunt streetwalkers in the Kharkov night, but perhaps a brothel or massage place? I rarely go above 23-24 year old girls and hope to be able to be just as picky in Kharkov. Any advice on good clubs to pick up non working girls?

Any advice on an apartment that is located in a strategic spot, and that can be booked online, would also be most welcomed.

Thank you!

B.

Member #4491
03-29-12, 17:47
Line up ten more girls to meet. You will be lucky if two follow through with the meeting.Working on it Cruiser, working on it.

B

Member #4491
03-29-12, 23:52
While the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) fight goes on in the Kiev section, Barba is in serious agony due to doubts. Ukraine or Mindanao? Ukraine or Mindanao? The familiar and safe solution or the thrill and potential risks of breaking new grounds. Young Pinay virgin teens lining up for Barba as he walks out of the plane or language barriers and Ukrainian disbelief. Working Flirt / Mamba is a f*cking full time job with extremely low payment.

But suddenly a stoke of luck. Miss Harkov that just vanished yesterday suddenly came on-line just now and she is friendlier than ever. As if she could feel my agony all the way to her little boarding room.

Cruiser's advice to "line up ten more girls" is still lurking in the back of my mind, discouraging me severely. And the dickheads running Flirt. Com. Ua wants money to allow me to send more than 30 messages tonight. Is it worth the investment? Anyone with an opinion on that?

B

Jojosun
03-30-12, 13:04
While the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) fight goes on in the Kiev section, Barba is in serious agony due to doubts. Ukraine or Mindanao? Ukraine or Mindanao? The familiar and safe solution or the thrill and potential risks of breaking new grounds. Young Pinay virgin teens lining up for Barba as he walks out of the plane or language barriers and Ukrainian disbelief. Working Flirt / Mamba is a f*cking full time job with extremely low payment.

But suddenly a stoke of luck. Miss Harkov that just vanished yesterday suddenly came on-line just now and she is friendlier than ever. As if she could feel my agony all the way to her little boarding room.

Cruiser's advice to "line up ten more girls" is still lurking in the back of my mind, discouraging me severely. And the dickheads running Flirt. Com. Ua wants money to allow me to send more than 30 messages tonight. Is it worth the investment? Anyone with an opinion on that?

BII would say from experience having used flirt& mamba a lot, line up as many girls as possible, and not just Ten.

I never paid money to send messges, although I get messages all the the time from generation of love, I think part of the system, asking me to either send messages or flowers. Money involved.

There are a lot of con artists & scammers lurking there, who want to engage you in paid messages & convo.

Take care when dealing with them. You will only find out if the girl is legit, once you get there.

Some girls who pose as Freebies, might even take you to an expensive restaurant or a club & order very expensive drinks. They get their cut & the would be monger, might get F all at the end of the Evening.

Ukraine is millions of miles away, when compared to mongering in SE Asia, like Thailand or the. Phillipines.

But at the end of the day, you have to ask yourself, do you prefer a dead cert of an easy & cheaper lay with a young Pinai girl, or a more expensive white Caucasian Girl.

Its Your Choice & your Money.

Just don't expect it to be that easy in Ukraine, or Sex In Your Face.

Member #4491
03-31-12, 02:21
Thank you for the advice, Jojosun. Well the Caucasians are free at home, but traveling is always fun. Tickets are purchased for the week after easter.

I will make some money on my visit also, so I can always escape to my computer and fool myself that "I am least doing something good" when I failed miserably and need to lick my wounds. Been there before, even in Pi.

I have visited EE a few times but never really with the purpose of mongering. Just one ultra failure in Riga, but have the nationalities all around me all the time, so I know that Ukrainians are very far from folks that lived most their lives on a provincial bananaplantation in Mindanao. Less naive is an understatement.

Looking at the Youtube clips posted here before there is at least plenty of eye candy. I guess I should adjust my expectations from what I am used to.

Time to make a Kiev and Kharkov shortlist of hard monger data.

If I do not report back, I was most likely busy "doing something good" in front of my computer instead of doing something fun in my bed. LOL.

B.

Horny Monger
03-31-12, 03:35
It's cheap but you'll need a local know-how to do it for you. I know of no links, numbers, etc because there're useless to me – you see, I spoke no Russian or Ukrainian; neither could I read the alphabets. I put a bouncer from local club on the payroll; so he called, drove and took me around to different apt. And translate. He did all the work. You see, I also got free security because he's a big muscular guy.

Cheers.


Where? . Telephone Numbers, Addresses, Links?

Thanks.

BTW, when I was in Minsk, some guys told me that Kharkov was even cheaper than minsk, Belarus.

Jojosun
03-31-12, 13:54
It's cheap but you'll need a local know-how to do it for you. I know of no links, numbers, etc because there're useless to me – you see, I spoke no Russian or Ukrainian; neither could I read the alphabets. I put a bouncer from local club on the payroll; so he called, drove and took me around to different apt. And translate. He did all the work. You see, I also got free security because he's a big muscular guy.

Cheers.Thank You for the Info.

This is how I usually do it in every EE Town or City, except I hire an Honest Young Engkish Speaking, or with few words, Taxi Driver (Once I Find One) to do the Leg Work for me & for for my safety as well.

I haven't got a clue about their Alphabets either.

My Russian is limited to 3 words, and it never stopped me from having a meaningfull Convo, when the situatuation arose.

Member #4491
03-31-12, 17:59
What do you pay these "assistants" per day?

B.

Jojosun
04-01-12, 20:50
What do you pay these "assistants" per day?

B.Answered on the KIEV thread. This is 4 Few hours.

Or you can arrange it direct with the driver. But get an idea, how much it costs first, Per hour.

In Poland I have a Fixed Rate of 50 Zloty with the driver, who normally takes me round to the Sex Clubs. He gets the Extra from his cut paid to him by the Club. I use the same driver I. .

Different prices for Day & Night in UA & Poland.

Old drivers don't like to work at night, and don't usually deal with Hookers, or speak English.

In Kharkov, it should be much cheaper than Kiev.

Google Taxi Companies there & Phone them. Try to get the name of anyone in their office who speaks english.

No good emailing them. They won't reply.

Member #4491
04-10-12, 11:54
Thank you Jojosun.

I know I am an 100% idiot to even consider this but need your advice. I am chatting with a girl with a body that would make the pope kick his divine foot through the wall of his little glass car. Amazing set of natural tits. She sent about 20 jerk material pictures and we cam chatted a couple of times. She shows all the signs of being a busy girl and naturally tells me she is a "good girl". She is going on about an iPad and that she will fuck me over and over again if I give her this. At first I was reacting as most would, but considering I can pick one up for some 500 $ I am starting to thing that it would be worth this to juggle her huge tits for a few days.

She wants the iPad after her first night with me, so there is a severe chance she will never see me again and then it is a useless deal. Hell, I might not even like her after I met her. I need advice and support from fellow males. Tell me this is stupidity and that I will find another girl with natural tits that are ripping her bra into pieces. Or tell me that you did something similar and it all worked out well and that the girl you gave an iPad is now your regular fuck toy that you take around the world for fuck fiestas.

Barba

Climaxnow
04-10-12, 21:04
Thank you Jojosun.

I know I am an 100% idiot to even consider this but need your advice.

BarbaBarba, I can not help but feel that this vixen has wrapped you around her little finger. Somebody is going to get the short end of the stick and it will probably be you.

Member #4491
04-11-12, 00:34
Barba, I can not help but feel that this vixen has wrapped you around her little finger. Somebody is going to get the short end of the stick and it will probably be you.Yea. I hope someone here met her and can give me a hard pinch. If I was not so f*cking tit fixated my life would be so much easier. LOL.

/B

Jojosun
04-11-12, 13:57
Thank you Jojosun.

I know I am an 100% idiot to even consider this but need your advice. I am chatting with a girl with a body that would make the pope kick his divine foot through the wall of his little glass car. Amazing set of natural tits. She sent about 20 jerk material pictures and we cam chatted a couple of times. She shows all the signs of being a busy girl and naturally tells me she is a "good girl". She is going on about an iPad and that she will fuck me over and over again if I give her this. At first I was reacting as most would, but considering I can pick one up for some 500 $ I am starting to thing that it would be worth this to juggle her huge tits for a few days.

She wants the iPad after her first night with me, so there is a severe chance she will never see me again and then it is a useless deal. Hell, I might not even like her after I met her. I need advice and support from fellow males. Tell me this is stupidity and that I will find another girl with natural tits that are ripping her bra into pieces. Or tell me that you did something similar and it all worked out well and that the girl you gave an iPad is now your regular fuck toy that you take around the world for fuck fiestas.

BarbaHi Barba.

I am really enjoying reading your posts. Makes me laugh LOL. Unlike some Wet Blankets just lurking on the Ukraine forum, and contributing F all to it. How green and beautiful the Grass is on the other side in Asia in some fucking obscure Republics (republics of tossers, that's how they sound to me, the republics I mean) , they tell us, without any facts or actual names of places posted in the forums for them, needless to say. Have a quick there yourself.

I don't think you are an idiot at all, being mesmerized by the Ipad girl. Just look at her body.

If I were you keep chatting to her, to build up rapport.

Set up a meeting on neutral ground, to see first, if she is for real.

I am the least techie, in fact a bit Technophobic, but can you take off vital parts of this Ipad so it can't function without them. Without her being aware of course.

This is a sure way of her needing to come back to you, if for anything 4 the vital parts. .

But don't part with, or send any cash before you meet her, and the deed is agreed and done.

LOL. Or get her to sign an agreement in Russian and English, along the lines, I give you the Ipad, and you are there, when I need you most, LOL.

Believe me UA girls like a bit of SOH thrown in, and really appreciate it.

If she is for real, when you meet her / You can BS her, by telling her you want her to be your travel girl companion to SE Asia, to show her the ipad factories there, so she can see the top range, or an exotic holidy, like say Pattaya. Then the US500 is a damn good investment.

When are you thinking of going now?

I am stil in the process of digging up the digits, which I kept in paper form, and will pm you.

Told you I am Technophobic.

Cheers

Member #4491
04-11-12, 23:44
Jojosun, than you for the advice. The iPad is a sealed little thing but I could maybe think of something to make her come back at least a couple of times more. Some smart auto lock software maybe. LOL. And the charger. And the SIM card thing. And some other shit. Yea, no money ever leaves me before I have the girl with me. Never ever after my first two mistakes with pinay cam-scammers.

Yea, I started the travel talk already. Keep them hoping for more, and they stay around for longer.

Still indecisive of Miss iPad but she is doing her best to convince me with new pictures and badly faked friendliness.

Kiev first mid next week and the off to Kharkov on the Saturday for some days of networking and mongering.

Will be glad to hook up with any mongers in town.

B.

TheKnight
04-12-12, 00:27
Yea. I hope someone here met her and can give me a hard pinch. If I was not so f*cking tit fixated my life would be so much easier. LOL.

/BHey Barba,

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Sound advice from Jojo. Or maybe show the iPad, but she gets it after night #2, and to mollify her bring the champagne and chocolates (not Krym shampanskyi!) for the first night, and maybe a few $ too (max $50).

Sure she knows her worth, but if the iPad was an opening bid, it's the dream usually, not the reality of what she'd take.

If you're in Kyiv DM me.

Climaxnow
04-12-12, 02:19
Hi Barba.

I am really enjoying reading your posts. Makes me laugh LOL. Unlike some Wet Blankets just lurking on the Ukraine forum,

CheersI don't throw wet blankets JoJo, I tell the truth unlike some members. Keep things simple in p4p. Find, feel, and negotiate. (with cash and not hardware)

Member #4491
04-12-12, 02:30
Sure she knows her worth, but if the iPad was an opening bid, it's the dream usually, not the reality of what she'd take.Maybe she will settle for a Kindle e-Reader. LOL.

I will perhaps bring a pad, tell her I have to use it for the duration of my stay and feed her some sparkling cheap wine to help her get over the trauma and to make her cooperative and re-motivated.

Will PM you when I am in Kiev next week, TK.

Climaxnow, I paid in hardware many times. My old phones, old laptops, cameras I do not want, etc. In the pretentious Philippines these kinds of "gifts" can open doors that will just slam in your face if you suggest to pay in cash. I have a lot or hardware for free so it works out to be cheap punani. Miss big tit iPad is naturally not of this conservative type that needs payment in disguise. She is just a greedy materialistic Apple hoe. But wait. This sounds like my good monger friend sitting on an island in Thailand fingering on all his super synchronized Apple products. LOL (hope you read this thread you horny perv).

B.

Jojosun
04-12-12, 12:23
I don't throw wet blankets JoJo, I tell the truth unlike some members. Keep things simple in p4p. Find, feel, and negotiate. (with cash and not hardware)OMG. Didn't mean You At All Old Boy. You are not telling us that in" Fuckistan, a land logged Republics in Asia, the girls there are soooo pretty and cheap without any posts to back up the claims ", Are You?

Read what I posted in the Kiev Thread.

Mine is just as simple as yours. Find them, Pay them, Fuck, them, Leave them.

Or even simpler. Fuck& Go.

I don't bother about writing long fucking essays about what we did in the sack.

Even if I wanted to, my writing skills plus my Typing, would fail me.

Wasn't much of an Acadamic, can't you see.

Jojosun
04-12-12, 12:43
Jojosun, than you for the advice. The iPad is a sealed little thing but I could maybe think of something to make her come back at least a couple of times more. Some smart auto lock software maybe. LOL. And the charger. And the SIM card thing. And some other shit. Yea, no money ever leaves me before I have the girl with me. Never ever after my first two mistakes with pinay cam-scammers.

Yea, I started the travel talk already. Keep them hoping for more, and they stay around for longer.

Still indecisive of Miss iPad but she is doing her best to convince me with new pictures and badly faked friendliness.

Kiev first mid next week and the off to Kharkov on the Saturday for some days of networking and mongering.

Will be glad to hook up with any mongers in town.

B.Yeah Barba is a smart cookie. Would love to watch a video of your first meeting with the IPAD Girl. Barba said, and the Ipad Girl said.

Have you done your script for the meeting? Q& Answers, so you are well prepared.

You never know? She could turn out to be a lot of fun, or a Referral contact to her female chums in kharkov.

Never make a girl self sufficient. So on no account, buy her the latest version multi headed Vibrator. LOL.

BTW, what's this about Barba danced at RP once when he was drunk? Kiev Thread.

So you are not a Newbie there?

Climaxnow
04-12-12, 20:05
OMG. Didn't mean You At All Old Boy. You are not telling us that in" Fuckistan, a land logged Republics in Asia, the girls there are soooo pretty and cheap without any posts to back up the claims ", Are You? .My apologies JoJo! I have to stop wizzing through the threads and replying without any thought. (smiley)

Climaxnow
04-12-12, 20:35
Climaxnow, I paid in hardware many times. My old phones, old laptops, cameras I do not want, etc. In the pretentious Philippines these kinds of "gifts" can open doors that will just slam in your face if you suggest to pay in cash. I have a lot or hardware for free so it works out to be cheap punani. Miss big tit iPad is naturally not of this conservative type that needs payment in disguise. She is just a greedy materialistic Apple hoe. But wait. This sounds like my good monger friend sitting on an island in Thailand fingering on all his super synchronized Apple products. LOL (hope you read this thread you horny perv).

B.Barba, I should have placed more thought into your initial question. I have no experience at all when it comes to the idea of exchanging gifts for companionship. It is reasonable to assume that certain girls would be offended by the idea of cash for sex.

Dan7373
04-13-12, 15:15
Barba, I should have placed more thought into your initial question. I have no experience at all when it comes to the idea of exchanging gifts for companionship. It is reasonable to assume that certain girls would be offended by the idea of cash for sex.I'd say that money is always the best gift to give, unless the lady asks you for something specific she wants you to bring. Because for money people can buy their own gift that suits them best.

Apple iPad might be hard to buy in Ukraine. And that's why the lady asked for it. But otherwise, money is what you should give and not things.

I've seen one situation where a British guy was buying things instead of giving money to his pretty lady in order not to 'insult' her. And she ended up leaving him, before he was ready to leave her.

Jojosun
04-13-12, 18:49
I'd say that money is always the best gift to give, unless the lady asks you for something specific she wants you to bring. Because for money people can buy their own gift that suits them best.

Apple iPad might be hard to buy in Ukraine. And that's why the lady asked for it. But otherwise, money is what you should give and not things.

I've seen one situation where a British guy was buying things instead of giving money to his pretty lady in order not to 'insult' her. And she ended up leaving him, before he was ready to leave her.Gifts, Gadgets might give give them thrills, but Money pays their bills.

I say give them money, but in instalments, so you keep them hanging on and needing to come back for more.

If this Ipad is available in the Ukraine, I would advise Barba to buy it there, by giving the money for it to the girl in instalments, rather than buying it outright straight away.

But I would explain it first to her why? , or BS her by saying the ATM is not dispensing enough money, or problems with the cards etc.

If she is keen and kosher, she will come back for more and more.

If not, plenty of Mermaids in the Dnipro.

Member #4491
04-13-12, 19:45
Anyone that made a visit to the provincial areas of the Philippines knows that a cabinet clean-out of obsolete hardware will get you through many enjoyable nights. But, yes I agree that money of course is the normal and most convenient mode of payment these days. Big tit iPad-girl a slightly special case since she insists on this toy, but I am quite sure it will boil down to money or nothing at the end, anyway. She is not prideful and pretentious, so she will not get hurt if Barba treats her like the hoe she is.

I picked up an iPad2 for 450 USD but this is for another girl I have spent quite a few hours with on cam. She is a very sweet girl and I joked a lot with her about Miss iPad so I figured it is a good joke. I do not plan to pay this "girlfriend", but want to give her something when I leave. Plan to spend at least two days and nights with her. Now these last sentences constitutes a typical ISG rationalization that make things sound as if I am really smart and that have a well thought through plan. Well I do not. It is a daze of various plans interrelating and overlapping, and I ended up with an iPad2. Not sure how it will be used. I have one already. Maybe I show this to Miss iPad and then lock it up with a "you're not my type but maybe you can become it". Perhaps I give it to my little darling when I leave, if she allowed me much pleasure. Maybe I use this as my backup iPad (as if I need one more over dimensioned smart phone). Or just give it to someone who deserves it here at home.

Jojosun, I was in Kiev before for a couple of nights. Work. Either tied up with conservative colleges, to drunk to get anything of value done or ill from being overly brave in the freezing Kiev night. I did see breasts at least in a strip club. But the river boat was great fun with many "very friendly girls" that where dancing and cheering over someone that was actually still alive there. My visit to Belarus was even worse but I will tell you over a beer so I do not bring down the moral wrath of ISG upon myself.

Barba

Dan7373
04-14-12, 15:58
I say give them money, but in instalments, so you keep them hanging on and needing to come back for more.

If this Ipad is available in the Ukraine, I would advise Barba to buy it there, by giving the money for it to the girl in instalments, rather than buying it outright straight away.

But I would explain it first to her why? , or BS her by saying the ATM is not dispensing enough money, or problems with the cards etc.

If she is keen and kosher, she will come back for more and more.

If not, plenty of Mermaids in the Dnipro.I prefer to pay my pretty lady before I have sex with her and not after. After having sex, I might give her a tip. But the agreed upon payment I pay before sex and not after.

And my reason for this is that I don't want her to worry about the money instead of having fun with me. If she isn't having fun, then neither am I.

Paying ahead of time also sets up a situation where your pretty lady owes you a favor, and she knows it too. This kind of thing makes you feel more free to bang your pretty lady the way you like. And it also encourages the pretty lady to do something extra for you, so that she won't be in debt to you anymore.

Of course, you are taking a risk, when you pay ahead of time. The lady may go away and not do as she has promised. But if you pay only for one day ahead of time, then it's well worth the risk. I found from my experience that the lady will often do better with you, when she thinks that she owes you a favor, than when she thinks that she doesn't owe you anything.

Jojosun
04-15-12, 00:38
I prefer to pay my pretty lady before I have sex with her and not after. After having sex, I might give her a tip. But the agreed upon payment I pay before sex and not after.

And my reason for this is that I don't want her to worry about the money instead of having fun with me. If she isn't having fun, then neither am I.

Paying ahead of time also sets up a situation where your pretty lady owes you a favor, and she knows it too. This kind of thing makes you feel more free to bang your pretty lady the way you like. And it also encourages the pretty lady to do something extra for you, so that she won't be in debt to you anymore.

Of course, you are taking a risk, when you pay ahead of time. The lady may go away and not do as she has promised. But if you pay only for one day ahead of time, then it's well worth the risk. I found from my experience that the lady will often do better with you, when she thinks that she owes you a favor, than when she thinks that she doesn't owe you anything.We are talking about Barba's Ipad here. How much is it? US450/500.

I always pay first, if its max US$100, but I wouldn't pay that much for just one session.

Jojosun
04-16-12, 15:47
Jojosun, than you for the advice. The iPad is a sealed little thing but I could maybe think of something to make her come back at least a couple of times more. Some smart auto lock software maybe. LOL. And the charger. And the SIM card thing. And some other shit. Yea, no money ever leaves me before I have the girl with me. Never ever after my first two mistakes with pinay cam-scammers.

Yea, I started the travel talk already. Keep them hoping for more, and they stay around for longer.

Still indecisive of Miss iPad but she is doing her best to convince me with new pictures and badly faked friendliness.

Kiev first mid next week and the off to Kharkov on the Saturday for some days of networking and mongering.

Will be glad to hook up with any mongers in town.

B..

Barba, Hope you landed in Kiev by now.

Check your inbox.

The only thing I need from you in return, is an informative report about Kharkov, when you finish.

The Kiev thread is getting Ridiculous, with the male equivalent of female Prick Teasers, just lurking there, contributing F all by way of new useful Info.

Member #4491
04-16-12, 16:34
I land in 48 hours or so. Much appreciated JoJo! You restored hope in the Ukraine section. I will report back, however well or bad I mamage to monger. Will try to add some graphical details as well.

Yes the iPad was 450 USD so a bit much to hand over. Dan has a strategy that maybe is good in EE. In Asia I pay after the deed normally. I will try both mathods in Ukraine.

Glad I did not go there during Easter. All the babes are even off Skype.

B.

Jojosun
04-18-12, 12:17
I land in 48 hours or so. Much appreciated JoJo! You restored hope in the Ukraine section. I will report back, however well or bad I mamage to monger. Will try to add some graphical details as well.

Yes the iPad was 450 USD so a bit much to hand over. Dan has a strategy that maybe is good in EE. In Asia I pay after the deed normally. I will try both mathods in Ukraine.

Glad I did not go there during Easter. All the babes are even off Skype.

B.To be honest I can't even remember what some of them look like. But best way is to tell them what you are looking for & the prices. Try to interview as many as possible in the way discussed.

Dan7373
04-18-12, 13:45
Dan has a strategy that maybe is good in EE. In Asia I pay after the deed normally. I will try both mathods in Ukraine.I think any way of paying can be good, as long as the lady trusts you and believes you that you will pay her. Because if she is having doubts about her payment, then her mind won't be on having sex with you. She won't be in the mood, and your sexual experience with her won't be that good.

I pay ahead of time to create trust and goodwill between myself and the lady, especially if she is a stranger whom I've met in bed for the first time. I think it's a good way to put the pretty lady at ease and help her relax her pussy for me.

But I can think of at least one example where paying your pretty lady after having sex with her can be a good way for you to improve your sexual experience with her.

I found from my experience that many ladies expect you to fuck, and fuck, and fuck non-stop, until you cum, once you put your cock inside her pussy. But I prefer a similar-to-masturbation-fuck. I would fuck the pretty lady for a while, enough to feel an orgasm approaching. Then I would stop and rest my cock inside her pussy to regain my composure. I would suck her tits and massage her body, while firmly pressing with my cock deep inside her pussy. And once my orgasmic feelings recede, then I start banging the pretty lady again, harder and faster than before.

I can go like this for an hour or more with the pretty lady in various positions. It's a very enjoyable fuck, because it lasts for such a long time and you approach orgasm inside the lady's pussy again and again. And you also get to explore and fully experience various sex positions with your pretty lady, instead of always being in a hurry to fuck. And a good way to encourage the pretty lady to fuck with you like this is to pay her by the minute of your cock inside her pussy. It's $60 per hour, if you pay her $1 per minute. In this situation, the pretty lady will likely encourage you to stay with your cock inside her pussy and fuck her intermittently, just the way you masturbate yourself, so that you won't finish for a long time.

Of course, the lady may have some doubts about how long you will last with her. She wouldn't want to get paid $15 for a 15-minute fuck. But you can solve this problem by giving the lady $50 to start with, and then paying her by the minute after that, so that she will encourage you to take your time inside her pussy, enjoy various positions with her, and last inside her pussy for a long, long time.

Jojosun
04-18-12, 14:46
I land in 48 hours or so. Much appreciated JoJo! You restored hope in the Ukraine section. I will report back, however well or bad I mamage to monger. Will try to add some graphical details as well.

Yes the iPad was 450 USD so a bit much to hand over. Dan has a strategy that maybe is good in EE. In Asia I pay after the deed normally. I will try both mathods in Ukraine.

Glad I did not go there during Easter. All the babes are even off Skype.

B.In Kiev, escorts working independently, or for Agencies, coming to you for the first time, say on an hour booking, would want the cash upfront.

But before you hand over the cash, agree services.

Good Luck

Member #4491
04-22-12, 21:09
Great city! Perfect ambiance and so much talent. Just walk in the park and you will see endless amount of pretty girls. Yesterday I met up with my sweetie I have been chatting with online, and ended up partying with her and her room mate. Normal students that enjoyed dancing and having fun. They slept in my apartment and my baby came back with e after we cured the hangover with a pizza and several bottles of mineral water. One of these sex dazed days, with fucking and sucking off and on. I am newly tested and she is reasonably innocent, so I skipped the rubber and invested in some emergency pills to prevent pregnancy. Offloaded a grand batch in her dripping wet pussy before we passed out again.

The girls kept on wanting to pay for themselves and did not even want to order a drink with the breakfast, even though we where [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drunk on vodka after a wild night of dancing. Caribbean bar was fun. Had four pretty young girls drinking with me at one point, and as always I was going to pay the bill but they beat me to it. Kompass club superb for Slavic style party. Go and visit! Highly recommended if you have some social abilities. Kyiv was great fun with a couple of new ISG bros, but so far Kharkiv is much more my type of place. I have not engaged in any P4P here so I can not report on that. As always there are a lot to juggle in a short time, but have plans for some work and then meet an 18 year old blond slim model tomorrow that I had contact with for some weeks. Once again a Flirt-girl.

The iPad ho keeps coming on and off the radar, but I think I am over her mega jugs. Have another mega jug babe visiting before I leave.

B

Bimbo Boy
04-23-12, 18:55
. so I skipped the rubber and invested in some emergency pills to prevent pregnancy .Hello mate. What do you recommend for such kind of pills?

Regards. B. B.

Member #4491
04-23-12, 22:08
Best is to read up on the active ingredients.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_contraception

"The progestin-only method uses the progestin levonorgestrel in a dose of 1. 5 mg, either as two 750 &956; g doses 12 hours apart, or more recently as a single dose."

Do not have the name of the pills she bought.

Failure today for Barba. Almost forgot how that feels. Horrible looser feeling creeping up on me. LOL. Thank god I am rigged for tomorrow. Maybe Kharkiv is not such an easy place after all. The scene seems to require much more time. A slower approach. Or maybe I am just not plugged into the right circles yet. And feel a bit aversion towards hammering Mamba right now. Time will tell what kind of place this is. Got a bit on the way with my 18 year old model today. She would not go for sex on the first date, but is reasonably friendly and active in her text messages now so I have caught her attention at least. My t-rex was almost ripping a hole in my pants when I was having late lunch with her in the park, letting my hand rest on her arm or leg every now and then. I will have her or die. God what a little slim and petite princess.

B.

Member #4491
04-24-12, 17:25
Last day and fortunately a good one. Girls coming from every direction suddeny and had to call off the least likely fuck, my 18 year old foto model gf. She will wait for me as she said. Now aint that sweet?

JJ, never did get around to work your list but thank you still.

I do not have anyone to share here but they are all over so, I think this place just requires field time.

B

Member #4491
05-08-12, 01:03
A bit unpredictable but a good treat. Tight squeeze in her fanny and excellent gaging blowjob. PM me for her number if you shared with me before.

B.

Climaxnow
05-08-12, 14:09
A bit unpredictable but a good treat. Tight squeeze in her fanny and excellent gaging blowjob. PM me for her number if you shared with me before.

B. Beautiful pictures. Thank you.

MisterP80
05-08-12, 22:21
Hi all,

I'm going to Kharkov in a month. Has anybody some good experiences down there? And wants to share contact information?

All other interesting information is welcome as well. I've heard about some good places to go out like Panorama, Bolero, Misto and Radmir. Can you pick up girls easily in those clubs?

Irish Lad
05-10-12, 14:15
Hi all,

I'm going to Kharkov in a month. Has anybody some good experiences down there? And wants to share contact information?

All other interesting information is welcome as well. I've heard about some good places to go out like Panorama, Bolero, Misto and Radmir. Can you pick up girls easily in those clubs?I like Bolero. Chances of success? 50/50, you will or you won't, same as anywhere in the world, only 20 times easier.

$100 will guarantee your success rate.

Reiner Otto
05-13-12, 09:28
I like Bolero. Chances of success? 50/50, you will or you won't, same as anywhere in the world, only 20 times easier.

$100 will guarantee your success rate.I will be in Harkov just for one German football match in June, on a Wednesday, and stay only one night.

Does it make sense then to visit Bolero in the middle of the week? Here in Nikolaev the clubs are more or less empty besides weekends.

Irish Lad
05-13-12, 15:07
I will be in Harkov just for one German football match in June, on a Wednesday, and stay only one night.

Does it make sense then to visit Bolero in the middle of the week? Here in Nikolaev the clubs are more or less empty besides weekends.Hi,

Sure, there are always people there. Midweek has a higher female:male ratio I am told. Also, it will be a busy night due to the football so all clubs will have a higher turnout.

Bolero is a 15 minute drive from the centre just to let you know.

Germany v The Netherlands. Replay of the 1976 world cup! Super) Cruff, Rep, Neeskins. They still playing?) If I were planning a trip there I would set up a new Mamba profile, based in Harkov, make sure it has "real status" (new SIM required for verification, and work the locals a week in advance.

Jojosun
05-27-12, 14:04
I land in 48 hours or so. Much appreciated JoJo! You restored hope in the Ukraine section. I will report back, however well or bad I mamage to monger. Will try to add some graphical details as well.

G.

B.Not scoring points here Pal, But.

Like I said, I would put up or shut up. Barba very nicely thanked me in the Kharkov thread, re a list of about 15 girls that I pmd to him.

He said he didn't get the chance to try them, and I didn't expect anything from him in Kharkov as a trade in either.

Barba was on a short visit, yet he put up a lot of info about Kiev and Kharkov +photos.

And he said he was a newbie.

And quite honestly what else is there in Kiev that we don't know about already.

Well you posted that you recently stayed in Kiev for few weeks. Where is your useful input.

A list of apartments that you did for BEZ few years back, plus telling us about 1200 girls on your Android Phone.

And you were wrong about one establishment.

BTW, you are wrong in your reply to Prosal, about just speaking ENGLISH was enough to nail girls in the EE countries before the internet days.

That meant, had any Tom, Dick, Abdul or Shlomo, or Any Old Boring Farts for that matter, who spoke English turned up there regardless of Looks, Style, culture, should have scored easily.

Again I refer to the excellent report of distinction by (Waryman) on who scores most in Kiev and Ukraine. Speaking English wasn't a factor in it at all.

In fact he said it was Northern Italians and Middle class Spaniards who stood the best chance of scoring in 2009. BTW that counts me out.

And in pre internet days it was again the Italaians who were the girls favourite dates in Prague and Warsaw.

Cruiser D
05-28-12, 02:13
Jojo, why don't you put a sock in it for once.

My success in Ukraine is well known. I'm not a keyboard commando like you nor do I spent 85% of my waking time in Kiev at Rio like you.

However to keep this posting on topic (Kharkov) I did strike out when I went to Kharkov in 2006 with Travel Male (long departed ISG). It was during the old new year during the coldest winter since 1926, Kharkov was basically deserted, although we did have a good time a Bolero.

And as for "That meant, had any Tom, Dick, Abdul or Shlomo, or Any Old Boring Farts for that matter, who spoke English turned up there regardless of Looks, Style, culture, should have scored easily.". Are you an idiot? That is exactly the way it used to be. Except x culture, this was for mostly white westerners.

And I view trading of girls pathetic. If you can't find your own in a country like Ukraine just stay home.


Not scoring points here Pal, But.

Like I said, I would put up or shut up. Barba very nicely thanked me in the Kharkov thread, re a list of about 15 girls that I pmd to him.

That meant, had any Tom, Dick, Abdul or Shlomo, or Any Old Boring Farts for that matter, who spoke English turned up there regardless of Looks, Style, culture, should have scored easily.

Cruiser D
05-28-12, 20:19
Let me futher add that of your 1, 132 postings at least 1, 000 are absolute crap.

Feel free NOT to reply to every posting with non sensical ramblings like this is your own personal blog.

Jojosun
05-28-12, 22:13
Jojo, why don't you put a sock in it for once.

My success in Ukraine is well known. I'm not a keyboard commando like you nor do I spent 85% of my waking time in Kiev at Rio like you.

However to keep this posting on topic (Kharkov) I did strike out when I went to Kharkov in 2006 with Travel Male (long departed ISG). It was during the old new year during the coldest winter since 1926, Kharkov was basically deserted, although we did have a good time a Bolero.

And as for "That meant, had any Tom, Dick, Abdul or Shlomo, or Any Old Boring Farts for that matter, who spoke English turned up there regardless of Looks, Style, culture, should have scored easily.". Are you an idiot? That is exactly the way it used to be. Except x culture, this was for mostly white westerners.

And I view trading of girls pathetic. If you can't find your own in a country like Ukraine just stay home.CD,

It shows you up. I never spent 85% of my time in Rio. I said I used to stop there to have a drink and maybe a Lap Dance before moving on.

I get VIP entry to the Rhino Clubs in London, and to Stringfellows. Rio can't even be compared with them.

Remember I live most of the time in one of the SEX Capitals in the World, not Boston, Ha, Ha. .

Plus I lead a very active social life as well.

I also happen to have dated Bunnies and models as well.

But I don't get on the Kiev thread to brag about them, like you brag about the 1200 girls on your Android.

Not once took out a girl from Rio or spent 85% time. Don't put fucking words in my posts.

The River Palace girls, I did them for US$100 happy hours, following day.

I did the Ukraine in 2009. All of the other EE countries I started doing them in the.

Late 80s. Just Speaking English like you posted, was never Enough.

You needed the looks, and being not too Tanned either. I was talking about EE scoring scene in general, not just Ukraine.

The only reason you are getting UA girls now, is because they need your and my US$$.

Just wait when they get VISA FREE travel to the EU, then all of the Beauties will be heading West, and only Skanks left there, including Kharkov.

Its purely economic issuses making them end up in the sack with foreign Mongers.

See if you can do the same in Poland and other EE countries which are members of the EU.

Only 35+ and maybe.

Do me a favor and don't reply, because I am really busy this week.

I love taking on Cyber Bullies but not in the next few weeks.

Cruiser D
05-30-12, 01:09
Jojo, weren't you one of the guys posting nonstop about Rio? Including break downs of the girls? How you would wink at the manager and he would set you up with any girl you wanted?

What do you actually do in Kyiv? Seems like you spend a lot of time in the forum writing (not about Ukraine) and not actually visiting. How many times have you visited Kyiv since your maiden voyage in 2009?

Cruising EE in the late 80's with your mommy, sounds like a lot of fun. Did you settle for a time in the FSU before heading to England like a good lad from the Commonwealth?

If you were white and a westerner from 1991 to 2003 all you had to do is show up and speak English. Did you ever read the archive postings on ISG on Russia? Or talk to people that were there during that time period. It was that easy. That is why it was called Candyland / Fantasyland. One the wrong side of 40? Or the wrong side of 100kgs? Social inept, no problem. Have the 20 year old dyevuskha of your dreams.

Ain't like that anymore buddy, err mate.


Not once took out a girl from Rio or spent 85% time. Don't put fucking words in my posts.

Late 80s. Just Speaking English like you posted, was never Enough.

Climaxnow
05-30-12, 03:35
If you were white and a westerner from 1991 to 2003 all you had to do is show up and speak English. Did you ever read the archive postings on ISG on Russia? Or talk to people that were there during that time period. It was that easy. That is why it was called Candyland / Fantasyland. One the wrong side of 40? Or the wrong side of 100kgs? Social inept, no problem. Have the 20 year old dyevuskha of your dreams.I believe this but I think you guys are talking about different things different cultures. JoJo is right that you had to have the right look when it comes to Polish and Checks. Educated Italians were golden because we had a nice look and most of us came from financially secure families. In those days, most Polish and Check guys, even the educated ones, were doomed to manual labor. I think CD is right if you are talking about Ukraine and Russia where girls were really desperate and it is more socially acceptable to date older guys. I am talking about girls that really liked you and not girls that just needed quick money to go buy something.

Prosal
05-30-12, 10:29
Don't miss the high-end outdoor swimming pools during summer in FSU (I already reported about Tashkent and Bucarest options if anyone is interested).

Beside being a nice daytime activity on scorching hot days, they often offer prodigious eye candy and are favorable hunting grounds for a skilled guy.

In Kharkov, Arkada and Anger (both turn to clubs at night).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAPohdiO5WA&list=FLaGbumErAwWSRAw77LSmJLQ&index=70&feature=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01DRNkbxQ14&list=FLaGbumErAwWSRAw77LSmJLQ&index=71&feature=plpp_video

Jojosun
05-30-12, 11:06
I believe this but I think you guys are talking about different things different cultures. JoJo is right that you had to have the right look when it comes to Polish and Checks. Educated Italians were golden because we had a nice look and most of us came from financially secure families. In those days, most Polish and Check guys, even the educated ones, were doomed to manual labor. I think CD is right if you are talking about Ukraine and Russia where girls were really desperate and it is more socially acceptable to date older guys. I am talking about girls that really liked you and not girls that just needed quick money to go buy something.100 Percent True, What Climaxnow stated above.

I was talking about EE countries in general, excluding Russia, Ukraine. Simply because I was in my early teens w.

When I I went to Moscow on a weekend trip with MOM. No experience there

Kiev I only started doing it since2009.

And here is a tip from someone who has done it.

Get the ferry from Hilsinki Finland to Russia, and you will have all the sex you can handle on the Booze cruize.

Finnish women and Some Russian getting wasted on all the alcohol.

You leave the Finnish with a crate of booze.

Further more I was talking about EE girls who are not p4p. These girls still prefer Italian Guys.

Italians have the looks and the skills and all the BS in the world to get into the knickers of the girls the world over even with English Girls.

BTW. I have no connection with Italy.

Member #4491
06-27-12, 12:30
Hello!

I land in Kharkiv this weekend and as it turn out my gf is not in town yet and no other safe options are replying. Working the sites as you read this, but does anyone have a reliable provider? I have a good lineup of young pretty girls that needs some work, so the first one to take off the edge does not have to me miss Ukraine. Just someone that showers frequently, use a toothbrush, has an OK attitude and that comes as promised. Curves is OK and so is slim girls.

All advice will be appreciated and help in return to be expected.

Barba

Member #4491
07-04-12, 10:36
All ended well with the help of Mamba and some friends (and not thanks to people here, that is for sure) , but I wish I knew more Russian. Seems to be a bigger issue here. Less business and more GFE on the menu. Went to one strip club but no take out on the menu. Pointless to see the candy but not taste it. Saw the police beating some people holding a small demonstration yesterday. My gf said "they are crazy people" referring to the ones getting pounded. See nothing, hear nothing and walk faster. The huge difference from west Europe sometimes gets very distinct.

B.

Irish Lad
07-05-12, 08:49
If you were white and a westerner from 1991 to 2003 all you had to do is show up and speak English. Did you ever read the archive postings on ISG on Russia? Or talk to people that were there during that time period. It was that easy. That is why it was called Candyland / Fantasyland. One the wrong side of 40? Or the wrong side of 100kgs? Social inept, no problem. Have the 20 year old dyevuskha of your dreams.

Ain't like that anymore buddy, err mate.Sure it is)

Cruiser D
07-08-12, 18:06
Yup, they like you because you are Italian. It's the pasta, garlic and momma, just like at home.


I believe this but I think you guys are talking about different things different cultures. JoJo is right that you had to have the right look when it comes to Polish and Checks. Educated Italians were golden because we had a nice look and most of us came from financially secure families. In those days, most Polish and Check guys, even the educated ones, were doomed to manual labor. I think CD is right if you are talking about Ukraine and Russia where girls were really desperate and it is more socially acceptable to date older guys. I am talking about girls that really liked you and not girls that just needed quick money to go buy something.

TechTravel
07-23-12, 20:33
There's a lot of information on Kiev clubs, girls, etc but I'm having some trouble finding anything about Kharkov. I'll be in both Kiev and Kharkov in the coming months and was wondering if anyone had any current info on Kharkov.

Thanks,

TT

Markus29
09-08-12, 13:19
Hello Fellas,

I can see in this section for Kharkov, it's really inactive and it's surprising for me because Kharkov is also a big city in Ukraine so No action?

Actually I'm planning to go there so want to know good and cheap places to find good girls. Details about any club or escort agency and prices will be appreciated. Details on things to be careful and avoid will be highly appreciated.

So please write me with more details. Thank you and have nice time ahead.

Irish Lad
09-25-12, 11:19
Hello Fellas,

I can see in this section for Kharkov, it's really inactive and it's surprising for me because Kharkov is also a big city in Ukraine so No action?

Actually I'm planning to go there so want to know good and cheap places to find good girls. Details about any club or escort agency and prices will be appreciated. Details on things to be careful and avoid will be highly appreciated.

So please write me with more details. Thank you and have nice time ahead.Lots of action in Harkov, just few foreigners to report it.

The clubs to go to are Bolero and Misto. Can't help you with your other questions

Sunny311
11-02-12, 20:56
Hello fellows,

I'm planning a trip to Ukraine next year. I want to be there for several weeks. I would appreciate it very much if someone could give me any help towards girlfriendly hotels and girlfriendly companies for renting apartment in the following cities:

- Kiew.

- Charkiw / Kharkov.

- Donezk.

- Dnipropetrowsk.

- Odessa.

- Lugansk.

Are the flights between ukrainian cities expensive? I have basic knowledge about Russian language and I will travel alone. Are apartments a save place for tourist who travel alone?

I think concerning robbing the apartment you rent! Which are reliable company for renting an apartment?

I am very grateful for any help or advice. Thanks.

Greeting from Germany.

Guntherus
11-16-12, 00:16
Hello fellows,

I'm planning a trip to Ukraine next year. I want to be there for several weeks. I would appreciate it very much if someone could give me any help towards girlfriendly hotels and girlfriendly companies for renting apartment in the following cities:

- Kiew.

- Charkiw / Kharkov.

- Donezk.

- Dnipropetrowsk.

- Odessa.

- Lugansk.

Are the flights between ukrainian cities expensive? I have basic knowledge about Russian language and I will travel alone. Are apartments a save place for tourist who travel alone?

I think concerning robbing the apartment you rent! Which are reliable company for renting an apartment?

I am very grateful for any help or advice. Thanks.

Greeting from Germany.Dear friend Sunny,

My experience of Dobovo. Com and Kievapts. Com is that they are reliable and provide good personal service. They ask for down payment when you make reservation. Dobovo is all over Ukraine, Kievapts has filiale in Odessa.

Many apartments have double doors, if you are concerned about safety, you should express it to the company. You don't need to ask permission to bring guests to rented apartment. If you use a hotel, you simply ask the receptionist when you book the room (I used to book double room to avoid trouble).

Look for prices of trains and planes on the Internet, I believe trains are more economic and ecological.

Looking forward to your report. Don't forget!

Greetings to Germany, Roll Buzz

Prosal
11-16-12, 11:22
http://kharkovrent.com/

Olga, who takes care of the reservations, is helpfull and efficient. You can negociate a nice studio for about 700€/month, and a one bedroom flat for about 1000€/month, which is, I guess, totally impossible in Kiev.

Member #4491
01-02-13, 00:38
I have used http://art-villa.com.ua/en

Good people to deal with but I would not mind a couple of more exclusive apartments.

B

Cruiser D
01-02-13, 12:53
It's around $1800 / month for a nice one bedroom western apartment in the center of Kyiv, if you know what you are doing.


http://kharkovrent.com/

Olga, who takes care of the reservations, is helpfull and efficient. You can negociate a nice studio for about 700€/month, and a one bedroom flat for about 1000€/month, which is, I guess, totally impossible in Kiev.

Prosal
01-02-13, 13:59
- Kiew.

- Charkiw / Kharkov.

- Donezk.

- Dnipropetrowsk.

- Odessa.

- Lugansk.Www.doba.ua

Large choice everywhere in Ukraine, direct contact with owners.

Member #4491
01-05-13, 03:03
http://kharkovrent.com/Thank you Prosal. About 10% cheaper than the one I used to use, for the same apartment. Not a lot of money to save, but makes no sense to pay more for the same flat either.

Barba

Member #4491
02-06-13, 19:28
Close to the excellent beer hall Stargorod you will find strip club Casta. Well wort a visit if you are into strip clubs, but do not go there if you expect to see a lot of people partying and breaking glass. As many others in Kharkov, the girls struggle with even basic English.

http://www.casta-club.com

I got a couple of numbers from girls there, but never met anyone due to time constraints.

B.

Mithrandir16
05-08-13, 10:16
Hello Guys,

I will be in Kharkov in July for a week. Could you give information for paid sex. Should I go to nearby cities for cost / benefit. I can go to Lviv if kharvov is not.

Kharkov or Lviv? Which is the best choice in terms of paid sex?

Regards

Harry Hirsch
05-09-13, 19:40
Odessa and Kiev :-))

Use Mamba. Ru, everywhere in Ukraine are Girls)

Misterxxx
05-10-13, 11:58
Kharkov or Lviv? Which is the best choice in terms of paid sex?Status Lviv:

Not as many girls as in Kiev + this year the tourism business is really booming in Lviv. Prices + 50 % in the last two years.

If you want to find girls in the strip clubs = not very easy in Lviv + the quality of girls is quite bad.

If you want to find girls in the disco: I have never seen so many medium aged and old men with an unhappy face as in the Metro Club (probably Lvivs best disco to find girls).

Member #4491
08-25-13, 03:11
I never tried but if you are looking for street action in Kharkov you can probably find it at the location marked in the linked map.

http://www.despero.net/?p=2270

Use G-translate to read reviews (under home you find month by month additions).

B

Member #4491
09-09-13, 00:51
Some of you might remember that I shared contact details to this girl. I would recommend you do not contact her. She is a sweet girl and still has a great body, but going down hill rapidly due to making bad choices and hanging out with the wrong guys. Sad to see her ruin herself with chemicals, but she does not give a shit about herself or Barba's advice.

B

Roberto Cavalli
10-06-13, 15:59
Hello guys,

I am coming Kharkov on 11th October for a week of mongering holiday. I would like to ask some questions to experienced friends.

1- Which clubs are best for freebies? I know bolero, I need more. Specially for weekdays.

2-What do you recommend for morning action? Where to go where is good to hunt?

3- Any massage places who does not rip you?

4- Where to call girls to home?

5- Is it good idea to go university cafeteria and have conversation with girls?

6- Any idea about overall prices?

I am coming with a friend and will spend last 3 days alone. Any ISG company is highly welcome.

Thanks very much.

JonTom
10-24-13, 13:38
Gentlemen:

There is not much chatter on here about Kharkiv so I thought I'd add a little personal experience and hope that others can add to it. I was visiting Kharkiv last week to meet with a girl from Sumy (which went very well BTW) and ended up having one night alone. I'm not really much into the club scene so cannot report on that but I did a bit of a browse online. Mamba did not really produce much but then it was last minute. My experience with Mamba is that it's best to start working it a couple of weeks before you are going to be somewhere. So. I found a website called RelaxKharkiv that had some nice looking ladies reasonably priced at UAH400 / hour. (before you say it. I'm well aware that the photos usually are not real). I rang up and inquired about a specific lady who was identified as speaking English however was told she did not. As I wanted a take out I let them recommend another lady and had her delivered. She was precisely as described. Tall. 25yo and spoke reasonable English. I ended up keeping her for two hours so the total damage came to UAH950. 400 / hour plus 150 total for the taxi (about USD115 all up). The experience was good, not great but a solid good. She had a list of don'ts. Kissing and BBBJ but was otherwise very accommodating. Overall I would say it was reasonable. Nice girl, good personality, good (covered BJ) , good sex for a pretty reasonable price considering it was a call out from the internet.

She works out of a house with 3 or 4 other ladies. There are two shifts per day with 3 or 4 on each shift. I had a bit of a chat with her about the overall business and she told me that the majority of her clients are Turkish or Arabic (which surprised me a little). She told me that the Turkish guys come to Kharkiv for 4 or 5 days at a whack just to do some mongering. I wouldn't have thought that would be the case. My gut feel is that if a guy had a little more time there and went to the trouble to visit a house he could probably find a few gems. As I mentioned I only had the one night and booked a girl more out of curiosity than anything else. From walking around Kharkiv I would suspect that it could be a pretty good place. If there's anyone here that has some experience and is interested to meet the next time I visit it will be appreciated.

JT

Suka Shalava
11-01-13, 11:18
Considering that this is the second largest city in the country, it's interesting and astonishing how limited the options there are.

You really have to wonder what factors are in play, relative to conservatism, corruption, protection, pay-offs, and how all those are tied to, or possibly not connected to this scene.

I can't speak for options found on the internet or in the strip clubs.

In the local gazetta, Prospekt, you used to be able to find only two very non-descript ads in the Zankomstva section way in the back. The ads were nothing more than a mobile number listed for a couple of very depressing run-down apartments in the center of the city, where you could call to get the address, and go for a visit to pay for some company by the hour. Prices were very low, about 200 grivna ($40) for an hour, with limited choices of from usually one or two, to sometimes three or or four ladies, in the 2-5 out of 10 range of quality, in the 22- 30 year old age range, with most of the ladies being unemployed mom's.

If you are not very fluent in Russian, and you call one of these places, you will have zero chance to find them. Your only shot would be to have your driver handle the call, and get you right to the door. But considering the very low quality you will find in these two apartments, compared to the unlimited numbers of 8's and 9's and 10's you see every day everywhere you go in the city, to settle for setting your goals and expectations that low, you should consider yourself about as desperate as you could get, and question what the hell you are even doing there. If you can speak enough Russian, you might be able to pay extra to have the lady come to your apartment.

The one shot you might have at finding something worthwhile, is if you just happen to call or show up when somebody new had just started, and maybe she might be 20 or 21 and not a mom. Even if you luck out with that, do not expect a good attitude though, this is strictly business. You may pay for an hour, but that means 15 minutes of smoking followed by 15 minutes in the bathroom. After that, you better get finished in the next 15 to 20 minutes, because then there's another 15 minutes in the bathroom and your hour is up. Paying for more time, usually just means that whole thing just repeats!

Even if you can secure a good and trustworthy driver that knows the city, he will likely do a search with you around midnight, of a handful of known bus stops, where it's normal to find a few ladies of the evening waiting to get picked up. Again, don't expect anything better, in the quality or age range, so you should have no expectation for much of a pleasant experience, and keep in mind that some of the women are working to support their own or their boyfriend's drug habits. It's always a remote chance you could find somebody interesting at one of these street spots who just started, but the odds are not in your favor. I think I got lucky once and met a blond that way downtown, standing on a corner with a couple of other nightcrawlers, near a strip club.

This whole unpleasant p4p scene in Kharkiv is 100% the opposite of the typical pleasant situation you may find with a lady that you can work out some kind of normal romantic or even sponsor relationship with. The downside is just that, when that doesn't go your way, because of time limits when your girlfriend is simply busy, there's really nothing in the city worthwhile to fall back on.

Which like I said initially, for a city this big, you just have to wonder why.

Same story holds true in the Russian provincial capitals, cities from 500,000 up to 1.5 million population. Even if you get lucky finding and asking the right taxi driver, who can call the one reliable 'escort' service in the city, that only operates from midnight until about 3am, the only options are likely to be a few ladies in the 23-28 year old range, with the quality limited to around 3-6 out of 10.

Kiev Freak
11-02-13, 00:27
Hi fellas, I also thought a travel to kharkiv but after I read around web, I am confused. I read that not possible to pick up girls from strip clubs. There are some saloons you can look from here but options are not wide.

http://www.mini-house.kh.ua/

I want to visit Kiev and after that I will make homework with mamba first. If all ok I can give a chance for kharkiv because it is very popular sex destination in ukraine.

http://kiev.vgorode.ua/news/187664/?003

Kiev Freak
11-11-13, 10:20
Considering that this is the second largest city in the country, it's interesting and astonishing how limited the options there are.

You really have to wonder what factors are in play, relative to conservatism, corruption, protection, pay-offs, and how all those are tied to, or possibly not connected to this scene.

I can't speak for options found on the internet or in the strip clubs.

In the local gazetta, Prospekt, you used to be able to find only two very non-descript ads in the Zankomstva section way in the back. The ads were nothing more than a mobile number listed for a couple of very depressing run-down apartments in the center of the city, where you could call to get the address, and go for a visit to pay for some company by the hour. Prices were very low, about 200 grivna ($40) for an hour, with limited choices of from usually one or two, to sometimes three or or four ladies, in the 2-5 out of 10 range of quality, in the 22- 30 year old age range, with most of the ladies being unemployed mom's.

If you are not very fluent in Russian, and you call one of these places, you will have zero chance to find them. Your only shot would be to have your driver handle the call, and get you right to the door. But considering the very low quality you will find in these two apartments, compared to the unlimited numbers of 8's and 9's and 10's you see every day everywhere you go in the city, to settle for setting your goals and expectations that low, you should consider yourself about as desperate as you could get, and question what the hell you are even doing there. If you can speak enough Russian, you might be able to pay extra to have the lady come to your apartment.

The one shot you might have at finding something worthwhile, is if you just happen to call or show up when somebody new had just started, and maybe she might be 20 or 21 and not a mom. Even if you luck out with that, do not expect a good attitude though, this is strictly business. You may pay for an hour, but that means 15 minutes of smoking followed by 15 minutes in the bathroom. After that, you better get finished in the next 15 to 20 minutes, because then there's another 15 minutes in the bathroom and your hour is up. Paying for more time, usually just means that whole thing just repeats!

Even if you can secure a good and trustworthy driver that knows the city, he will likely do a search with you around midnight, of a handful of known bus stops, where it's normal to find a few ladies of the evening waiting to get picked up. Again, don't expect anything better, in the quality or age range, so you should have no expectation for much of a pleasant experience, and keep in mind that some of the women are working to support their own or their boyfriend's drug habits. It's always a remote chance you could find somebody interesting at one of these street spots who just started, but the odds are not in your favor. I think I got lucky once and met a blond that way downtown, standing on a corner with a couple of other nightcrawlers, near a strip club.

This whole unpleasant p4p scene in Kharkiv is 100% the opposite of the typical pleasant situation you may find with a lady that you can work out some kind of normal romantic or even sponsor relationship with. The downside is just that, when that doesn't go your way, because of time limits when your girlfriend is simply busy, there's really nothing in the city worthwhile to fall back on.

Which like I said initially, for a city this big, you just have to wonder why.

Same story holds true in the Russian provincial capitals, cities from 500, 000 up to 1. 5 million population. Even if you get lucky finding and asking the right taxi driver, who can call the one reliable 'escort' service in the city, that only operates from midnight until about 3am, the only options are likely to be a few ladies in the 23-28 year old range, with the quality limited to around 3-6 out of 10.Did you do your homework by using mamba to collect phone numbers before your arrival of kharkov?

Suka Shalava
11-12-13, 13:35
Did you do your homework by using mamba to collect phone numbers before your arrival of kharkov?Oh yes, I did much more than that! Always be prepared!

Member #4491
11-26-13, 00:06
Hi fellas, I also thought a travel to kharkiv but after I read around web, I am confused. I read that not possible to pick up girls from strip clubs. There are some saloons you can look from here but options are not wide.Kiev Freak,

I go to Kharkov quite regularly. Got a couple of numbers from girls in Casta, I. E. A good strip club, but the girls never replied to SMS or picked up when I called.

I like the city but there are easier options for p4p.

B

Kiev Freak
11-27-13, 11:12
Best for p4p is Kiev? Mamba isn't effective in kharkov as well as in Kiev?

Kiev Freak
11-27-13, 15:27
Oh yes, I did much more than that! Always be prepared!Mamba girls doesn't reply in kharkov? I'm suprised. Many people dig mamba for mongering in Kiev. Mamba doesn't work for kharkov? How this can be possible?

Russel4339
02-28-14, 23:45
Gentlemen,

I have lived in Kharkov for more than three years. I am not on the site often, but I thought that I would give you and update on the city since I had some time tonight.

Mamba. Kiev. Uk. This is a good place to find women in Kharkov. About 20% of the women under 30 are pay-for-play on the site. (Look for women wanting sponsors). Note, however, that the women on this site go on and off the site very quickly. If you are looking a month ahead of time. The lady will probably not be there when you arrive. If you do make contact, the lady will typically come to your hotel or apartment. The cost is typically 400-500 UAH plus taxi (approx. $50. Now $40 with the recent currency inflation over the last month). Another thing to note. The chance of the girl showing up: 95. The chance of the girl in the picture showing up: 30. Most of these ads are for agencies and will send over any girl if you don't ask. (And sometimes even if your do).

I currently have 3 girlfriends in Kharkov that I met on Mamba. These are older ladies (35-40 but, then, I am older also). They are beautiful and I never pay for anything other than dinner, a movie, or a theater ticket. With some patience and a positive attitude, anything is possible.

Salons. The salons here are a good way to go for the uninitiated. For example. X-Ladies. This salon usually has 6-8 different girls. All services are offered. Prices are very good. 600 UAH (about $70) for 90 minute. 2 shot encounter. There will be all types of ladies available. (Except BBW ladies).

Look here for a list of salons: http://mini-house.kh.ua

Clubs. I don't do these often. But there are few good ones. Costas has beautiful women typically and takeout is possible. Caberet definitely has takeout. The White Cockatoo is active and fun. (Private dances here are outstanding for $20). The new Penthouse Club (official Penthouse sponsored) has beautiful women. I have only been once, so I don't know much about it.

Street Action. There is street action, but I stay away from this for health reasons. (And I have no problem with finding other alternatives).

Online sites. There are several websites that have lists of women in Kharkov. I have tried these before, and had some luck. The odds of getting the girl in the picture are pretty good. Prices are usually listed and typically not negotiable. Which is strange because I see little difference between some of the 400 UAH / hour and 800 UAH / hour girls. Overnight can be found for around 2500 UAH (approx. $275). Some of the sites are here:

http://relax-portal.com/category.php?id_category=28

http://kh.inprostitute.com

http://sex-ukraine.net/prostitutki-harkova/

Russian Language? If you speak any Russian, this makes the whole Kharkov scene much easier. My Russian is not good, but I have not had any problems with providers. However, if you know no Russian, do not get discouraged. Many of the ladies speak bad English (few speak good English). If you call and there is more than one lady, they will typically find the best English speaker for you. If you are going to their location, have them send you an SMS with the address. You can show this to the taxi driver. (There is one salon I have called a couple of times because it looks interesting. For some strange reason, they refuse to text me their address and I can't make out the name of the street when they say it in Russian. Very odd).

So. That is a little bit about the action in Kharkov. I don't know what is up with the country right now or if I would advise anyone to come here until the troubles settle down. Since Kharkov is only 20 miles from the Russian border, we may be seeing troops on the ground soon.

Russel4339
03-02-14, 21:36
Well, maybe I wrote two days too early about Kharkov being peaceful. Over the weekend, there was some intense violence about two blocks from my apartment. Maybe time for this one to go home.

Still. Pay for pay prices have not yet gone up. (even though the hryna has inflated another 10% over the weekend). So enjoy the situation while you can. If you are still here.

El Cubanito
03-04-14, 16:30
Well, maybe I wrote two days too early about Kharkov being peaceful. Over the weekend, there was some intense violence about two blocks from my apartment. Maybe time for this one to go home.

Still. Pay for pay prices have not yet gone up. (even though the hryna has inflated another 10% over the weekend). So enjoy the situation while you can. If you are still here.I was planning on going to Kharkov in the Spring. I have already pay for my airline ticket. Maybe thing will quite down by then or everything will go to hell.

Russel, how are thing today in Kharvov?

El Cubanito

Russel4339
04-23-14, 14:18

Russel4339
04-29-14, 14:59

Russel4339
06-02-14, 14:19
I am glad (and relieved) to report that as of today, Kharkov is still a safe and peaceful town. The shops are all open. There are no protests. The local government does a pretty good job about keeping that under control.

The local massage salons are open and active. Prices have remained constant at around 400 UAG - 600 UAH depending on what you like (that is about $35 - $50 0 - and the $50 is for 90 min). Mamba has about the same number of women on it as normal. Not checked on prices there. I still see the street action along Moskovskovo after 10 PM.

So. Overall - as long as it remains peaceful. Kharkov is open and ready for visitors should anyone be interested. .

Russel4339
09-02-14, 11:43
Again. Glad to report that Kharkov is still a peaceful and pleasant place as ever. The salons are still active and hungry for business. Especially since the hryvna has fallen to 14 UAH /$ and their are no (well, very few) foreigners in town. Last week I had a nice friend that I met on the Mamba board come over. My friend Irina is what I will call a semi-professional. Works by day but then will supplement her meager income by night if the opportunity presents itself. She spent most of the evening. I paid her 400 UAH. (At 14 UAH /$ - under $30). And she was happy.

As long as the war stays away from Kharkov, it is an interesting place to visit from a mongering perspective. Especially if you know a little of the culture and language.

Mitsos1970
11-14-14, 23:25
Hello fellow mongers,

I will be staying next week for a couple of nights in Kharkov, in Kharkov Palace. Are there any girls in the hotel bar available? Any other tips close by? Maybe an agency or independent recommendation?

Thanks,

Mitsos

TroutRivers
04-30-15, 20:06
Hello fellow mongers,

I will be staying next week for a couple of nights in Kharkov, in Kharkov Palace. Are there any girls in the hotel bar available? Any other tips close by? Maybe an agency or independent recommendation?

Thanks,

MitsosI will be staying in both Kiev and Kharkov in July and was thinking the same thing. Stay in a hotel where there are girls in the lobby / bar at night. My last trip east was to Moscow and I always stay in the Cosmos because it is so easy to find a girl at night down in the lobby area.

Russel4339
05-02-15, 06:54
I will be staying in both Kiev and Kharkov in July and was thinking the same thing. Stay in a hotel where there are girls in the lobby / bar at night. My last trip east was to Moscow and I always stay in the Cosmos because it is so easy to find a girl at night down in the lobby area.I don't get to the Kharkov Palace often since the unrest started and my company has no guests in town, but I have never seen a lot of girls in the top floor bar. (It is a nice place, just not girls). Of course, I have always been with girl when I was there, so perhaps I wasn't looking hard enough.

They are some relative nice salons around about a 10 minute walk or less from the hotel. It is in the center of town and a very safe area. A couple of strip clubs about the same distance.

Drop me a note when you are thinking of getting into town.

DudeNextDoor
06-17-15, 15:49
I stayed at Chichikov Hotel. The hotel was almost empty so the service was great! The 4 star hotels in downtown is about 30 USD a night so I do not see the point of renting an apartment.

At hotel, you get clean sheets everyday, free water, coffee and breakfast. They call you a taxi when needed. When you call in an escort, the escorts behave, they know they been on security cameras when they walk in with you. So no stealing or running away before rendering services. The safe box is also a plus.

Some escort agencies and massage parlor number gone bad already. The massage places that are still open have 2-3 girls at most.

The escort agencies had no problem sending us girls every night in 20-30 minutes. The problem is the liar managers. They say the girl is 18, she turns out to be 23. They say she is 19 she turns out to be 28 so do not be afraid to send back girls when you do not like them. Just pay their taxi ride. Its 100 to 150 UAH. Then call manager and ask again. She will keep sending you new ones till you find what you like.

Some websites say 350-500 UAH for an hour outcall, do not expect those to be real. You will be quoted 600-800 UAH when you call those ads.

They also try to rip you off on taxi fees. 2nd night the cab driver asked 300 UAH for the ride, same company sent us girls for 150 the night before. We told him to get lost and gave him 150. He was still happy.

The ride from airport to downtown hotels should be 70-90 UAH depending on how far they drive around to jack a few more grivnas! At the airport he taxi sharks will ask you if you need a taxi and they will ask 250-300 UAH, just tell them 50*70 UAH to start with and you can ride for 90-100 UAH!

CactusPie
12-10-15, 22:42
I'm new to this forum, so hope I am not breaking any rules by posting. Lurked here a bit, and decided to post.

I have spent plenty of time in Kharkiv and other cities in Ukraine. As a young brown male, I have had quite a time in this city. I speak fluent Russian though, so YMMV. I am a bit new to P2P scene. I started off more from a picking up girls since I was living there, and then 'sponsorship'.

I know plenty of sites and some girls who may be worth your dime and time, in both Kiev and Kharkiv.

If you have any questions from the perspective of a young guy who spent quite some time here, feel free to ask.

Suka Shalava
12-14-15, 13:30
I'm new to this forum, so hope I am not breaking any rules by posting. Lurked here a bit, and decided to post.

I have spent plenty of time in Kharkiv and other cities in Ukraine. As a young brown male, I have had quite a time in this city. I speak fluent Russian though, so YMMV. I am a bit new to P2P scene. I started off more from a picking up girls since I was living there, and then 'sponsorship'.

I know plenty of sites and some girls who may be worth your dime and time, in both Kiev and Kharkiv.

If you have any questions from the perspective of a young guy who spent quite some time here, feel free to ask.Breaking rules by writing your first post? Posting is exactly what you ARE supposed to do!

The membership hereby request that you expound on your adventures with the dyevs, but first, please provide background so that we can understand how and why you wound up there and spent so much time in Candyland?

We understand that being young and brown in itself can provide some cache', but it also greatly helps if you are well-off, attractive, and connected. So where are you from, how are you fluent in Ruski, and how did you end up working in Kharkiv? Where did you find success picking up ladies, and tell us about the levels of your sponsorships?

CactusPie
12-21-15, 15:51
I am a little concerned about my identity, so I'll be a little vague about my own personal description. I am from a South Asian country, not well-off at all and I was both studying and working on my own website in Kharkiv. Like some other guys, I was into pick-up and 'game' - and at times I met few PUAs quite popular around the web when they were in Ukraine. Interestingly, I realized quite early when you have to game and when you have to. Just take it easy. Anyhow, my biggest plus was. I was young, a little different / exotic, and learned Russian very quickly on my own. I had no money, so I could not just rely on sponsorship.

I didn't read through entire forum but I reckon here people are more into pay-and-play.

I used a combination of online and offline search. Learned how to filter search on vk more effectively. 18-19 yr old girls were my target, as this is the age when they are finishing their 11th class at school and entering university, big change etc. Usually girls who lived in hostel are easy prey. All in all, I am more knowledgeable about gaming / pick up stuff in Ukraine.

Nonetheless, I did find some two sites that I have found are still not swarmed by hordes of foreigners. One of them is atolin (dot) ru and another is Ukraine.

Again, atolin has plenty of fakes but plenty of real girls too. How do I know? Because plenty of my ex-girlfriends' friends were on these websites. Vk is still the best way to go but it is only good if you are in the country for at least a month and don't rely solely on cash. Atolin is not a sure shot either. One of my ex girlfriend's friend there signed up because she was suggested by someone else and was open to 'adventures', and on the other hand, often you've fakes there which are easy to spot. Not reliable because many girls don't sign up there that often either. Escortnews is more reliable as one of my acquaintance is on it even.

I'd say it is very easy to find a young, amateur girl under 1000-1500 UAH (60 Euro), if you negotiate nicely.

I have no experience with massage house or whatever though.

If someone has more questions, you are free to comment or pm me.

Suka Shalava
12-23-15, 13:42
I was studying in Kharkiv. I had no money.

I did find atolin (dot) ru and another is Ukraine.

Mr. Pie,

If you'll indulge a few more questions, the members will be obliged.

How did you initially choose Kharkov as your destination to be a foreign-exchange student?

If you enrolled at Karazin State University, that place brings back many fond memories, so many pretty ladies there. I was very fortunate to have a number of friendships there with students and professors, including invitations to visit classes there for several years. There was a student lounge, I think up on the sixth or seventh floor, in between classes we could sit and chat drinking tea, cute ladies always coming and going in such great abundance. The true definition of Candyland!

About the websites you mentioned, other than the lady you said signed up on atolin for 'adventures', would you say that most of the ladies on atolin were searching for sponsorships, or just to hook up with a guy to get laid? And what is the other website you wrote, Ukraine? Ukraine what?

CactusPie
12-24-15, 00:20
Mr. Pie,

If you'll indulge a few more questions, the members will be obliged.

How did you initially choose Kharkov as your destination to be a foreign-exchange student?

If you enrolled at Karazin State University, that place brings back many fond memories, so many pretty ladies there. I was very fortunate to have a number of friendships there with students and professors, including invitations to visit classes there for several years. There was a student lounge, I think up on the sixth or seventh floor, in between classes we could sit and chat drinking tea, cute ladies always coming and going in such great abundance. The true definition of Candyland!

About the websites you mentioned, other than the lady you said signed up on atolin for 'adventures', would you say that most of the ladies on atolin were searching for sponsorships, or just to hook up with a guy to get laid? And what is the other website you wrote, Ukraine? Ukraine what?I was a full-time student there, not an exchange one It is really difficult to explain how I moved there, let's just say I wasn't into South Asian girls or life there, and I liked Eastern Europe more.

At this point I am curious about you. Were you there for exchange? How long? Did / do you speak Russian?

Yes, my favorite faculty was on 7th floor, for innostranniy yazik (foreign languages) - the best looking girls IMHO. I think this faculty attracts best talent (read: pretty girls who usually aren't good about studying and dream of going abroad / work and travel to USA) in almost all unit's in Ukraine / Russia.

Escortnews is the website, Ukraine. *************** is the regional version for it. You can filter for Kharkiv there.

CactusPie
12-24-15, 00:31
And to answer your question, I would say neither. Maybe sponsorship, but mostly I found normal girls there. My type is non-pro, amateurish girls: you can talk, make offer, be a bit sweet and you can find some top girls there. I won't call it reliable at all since most girls logged in not so often, but messaging and contacting there is definitely among things to do before arrival in Ukraine.

Suka Shalava
12-25-15, 23:31
It is really difficult to explain how I moved there.

Well Cactus, to clarify, I'm still trying to understand how, from as distant as where your home was, that you came to choose Karazin University as your place to study abroad? On my first visit to Kharkov, I didn't even know it was there, or that my apartment was a 10 minute walk away.

My long and varied acquaintances with faculty were a stroke of pure luck, the kind inspired by pioneers like Dr. Skank and CA Traveler, who urged all to push the envelope, take chances, and get up again to try something new each time you fall down. At their insistence, I delved, though there's little depth to dive very deep in this city, unless you have some serious connections. All I had was my trusty driver, so he helped me find an occasional jem at one of two filthy agency flats, or to pick up a newbie working girl at a bus stop. But that kind of mongering isn't anything that anyone should consider as much out of the ordinary.

However, being introduced to the city's best mamachka at 02:00 in the parking lot of some huge hotel miles from the center, by the Syrian bartender from Charlie's Disco, after hours of trying and finally convincing him that I didn't work for the CIA, now that was special. A mamachka like that can't guarantee you'll be assured success, but if you do get lucky, she can be the difference between having just an ordinary time, and heaven.

When I first found myself in the city, alone with ten days of free time, due to my own choosing to break things off with an uninteresting lady from Anastasia Brides, and with absolutely no ability to speak Russian, and no other prospects or contacts, I considered just packing my bags to go home early. Instead, thanks to what I'd read here in ISG, for no particular reason, I just went to chill out one afternoon on a bench in the little park by Lenin's monument. This was before 2000, so it was no problem for Ivan to see that I was a visitor. I was approached and invited to meet his friends, the members of the English club.

With one chance encounter, plus a rare talent to connect and communicate across the language barrier without speaking Russian, I was welcomed there for the next nine years, eventually finding my way across town at Skovoroda teaching university on Ul. Valentynivska. My relationships at Karazin never really developed into anything more than long term friendships, out of respect and my proximity, I would up living just two blocks from there for many years.

I found the ladies studying at the teaching university to be less inhibited and more interested in dating and sponsorships. And back in those days before smart phones, if you were lucky enough to have a trusted agent to place an advertisement for you, written in Russian in the Znakomstva section of Prospect gazetta with the right kind of enticement of a generous sponsorship, you could literally get calls and SMS's by the dozens, from morning until night every day. That all faded away with the advent of Mamba, which has mostly faded away now too.

Russel4339
04-02-16, 07:40
With the summer tourism season upon us, I decided to write an update on Kharkov for those thinking of visiting this fine, in not-so-beautiful, city. Although, Kharkov's Gorky Park is, in my opinion, one of the prettiest and most interesting public parks in the world.

Kharkov is a good place to visit again. The situation in eastern Ukraine has quieted down and there is not talk of unrest in the city and a lot of the previous tension on the streets has disappeared for now.

Traveling here is getting easier. LOT airlines is flying directly from Warsaw to Kharkov. It would be nice if Austrian reinstated their Vienna-Kharkov flight, but that is unlikely to happen soon. If you are in Kiev, the train is about $20 to Kharkov. Or you can fly for around $45 (if you buy in advance).

Prices are low. You can go out to eat at the nicest restaurants in town for about $30 for two people (including drinks). In normal restaurants, it is easy to get by for $15-$20 for two people. (I eat at MacDonalds for under $3. Hotels are really cheap also. You can stay at the best hotel in town, the Kharkov Palace. A true 5* hotel, for under under $90 a night. Good, high quality hotels can be found in the $40-$60 range.

Taxis are ridiculously cheap. You can go anywhere in the city for under $4. Of course, once they hear your accent, it will $6. Of course, the taxi that you may find may be a very old Lada or a new Skoda. Price is the same. At the airport, never pay more than 150 UAH for a trip into the center. (Although they will try to charge you more. If I call the taxi company. The cheapest way. I can get there for under 100 UAH).

As for ladies. There are a variety of choices. For non-Russian speakers. Strip clubs and salons are abundant. Most strip clubs have take out, but I have never used that service. Salons will cost about 800-1000 UAH / Hour (at 27 UAH /$ - about $30-$35). Pretty much all services are available.

Here is a good site for finding salons: http://mini-house.kh.ua/apartments.

The websites will have pictures of the girls there, and in my experience, they are the actual girls who are working there. The only downside is most of them don't have addresses, only phone numbers. If you call, they usually have someone who can speak enough English to get you and address. Better yet. Have them send you the address in an SMS message and you can give it to the taxi driver. (Or walk. If you are staying in the city center. Most of these are within the center. Simply find that a map to the location online).

For the more adventurous, Mamba is still an okay place to find a playmate. However, it is hit and miss in Kharkov (Kiev is much better for this). To find talent in Kharkov on Mamba takes work and, is possible, the ability to speak Russian.

Another interesting site to try is: http://www.meendo.com.

Meendo.com is actually a swinger site. However, there are some nice professionals that use the site. Simply create a profile and search Kharkov for ladies who "offer sex for money". You can set everything up online usually. Unlike Mamba. It is a guaranteed success when you find a girl here.

For those of you looking for pharmaceutical assistance, you can by Viagra in any drug store without a prescription. However, Viagra is expensive. You can get the Indian version, Konagra, for about $3 / 50 MG pill. I can verify that it works the same. They also sell a Russian version, Potentiale (1055;1086;1090;1077;1085;1094;1080;1072;1083;1077 with is even cheaper (about 1/2) the price of Konagra. I looked online. It is supposed to sildenafi also, but I have not had the courage to try it yet. Just not sure if I trust Russian pharmaceuticals. (Anyone have experience with this?

Lastly. Kharkov can be nice and fun city to explore. It is a little difficult to get to know the city, but worth if you have the time. Find a lady. Ask her to take a walk with you in Gorky Park. She will be thrilled that you are such thoughtful gentleman. If you have specific questions, PM me and I will answer them if I can. .

Suka Shalava
04-02-16, 16:41
Hey Russ, kudos for a great update with much useful general info! If you'll forgive me for not PM-ing you as you suggested, I suspect a lot readers may be curious about something you didn't go into much detail on, which is sponsoring the lovely non-pros.


Strip clubs, saunas, and salons aside, finding a lady to explore the city leads many of us to wonder about the next obvious step, exploring the level of moisture inside the gardens of those female city guide's panties!

Surely you're aware that there's been considerable debate lately about the costs and likelihood of success to discretely sponsor the 18-25 year old pretty university and institute students, waitresses, clerks, bank tellers, shop and office workers, etc. , that fall in the 7 to 9 out of 10 range of hotness. The expectation of bursting pent-up passion with prostitutes is low, but its almost always the non-pros that really cut loose, if you have the fortune to hook up, treat them well, and push the right buttons.

What can you share with us in that area of your experiences as of late in this city?

Russel4339
04-05-16, 11:25
Hey Russ, kudos for a great update with much useful general info! If you'll forgive me for not PM-ing you as you suggested, I suspect a lot readers may be curious about something you didn't go into much detail on, which is sponsoring the lovely non-pros.

Surely you're aware that there's been considerable debate lately about the costs and likelihood of success to discretely sponsor the 18-25 year old pretty university and institute students, waitresses, clerks, bank tellers, shop and office workers, etc. , that fall in the 7 to 9 out of 10 range of hotness. The expectation of bursting pent-up passion with prostitutes is low, but its almost always the non-pros that really cut loose, if you have the fortune to hook up, treat them well, and push the right buttons.

What can you share with us in that area of your experiences as of late in this city?Suka Shalava. Ha! This is exactly how I spent my time. (And I have more fun here than any man my age should have).

Okay. Well, first. It is easy to find a extremely beautiful girlfriend here. I am not young. So the women I date are in the mid-30's to early 40's. But none over a size 2 (maybe 3). Of course, I live here, so that makes it easier to establish a longer term relationship. And my Russian is intermediate (after many years) - that helps to. However, you can find English speaking girls also.

The women that I have gone out with here have been from any type of profession (store clerks, teachers, lawyers, unemployed, engineers, even a ballerina). Most are not looking for the big payday (they are here, but they don't last long with me). Most of these women just want someone who will respect them and treat them well. (Not overly common among men here, from what I understand). Typically, we go out a few times before winding up in bed. And. If you treat them right there also, you be amazed at how passionate they can be and you will soon be meeting them all the time. Unlike professionals. The chance of catching anything nasty is almost zero.

This type of sponsorship need not be expensive. When I have a girlfriend here, I will take her dinner. We will go to the market together and I will buy both my food and anything she needs for her house. I will bring flowers on a regular basis (important here). We will go on picnics, to concerts. The more you like the woman, the more you will spend, but that is okay. I have taken some friends on trips Mallorca, Paris, Turkey, etc. Some women with reasonable salaries will not let you spend that much money on them. Even argue about taking money for the taxi home.

Where to meet these women? Mamba is an okay place (but these are women who are not looking for sex or sponsorship, but for a relationship). You have to sort through a lot of rocks to find a gem. It takes time, but is worth the effort. A couple of other places where that are okay - UkraineDate.com and FDating.com - both of these have proven to be good places with decent search mechanisms. UkraineDate.com is not like Anastasia.com (A ripoff) - UkraineDate has actually women who write you back and you can actually meet without paying anything (other than an annual membership fee. For the ladies it is free).

In the 25-35 age range, there are lots of great women on these sites and they are looking a relationship. The key is to be respectful. I talk to the women I meet here and many times will ask them about the men who write them. Almost all start talking about sex in the first email. Not a good opening.

This is also a good way to practice your organizational skill also. How to have two or three girlfriends at one time without getting into trouble. .

I live here. This makes it easier. However, I know some people who travel here often and have worked out this kind of similar relationship with women here. They visit and while here have a friend or two. They will meet their Ukrainian friend in various countries.

Not sure if this answered your questions. But, yes, sponsorship is possible if you play your cards right.

Parovoz
04-11-16, 21:13
Hi guys,

I'm a local guy, living here in Kharkov.

I like prostitutes and can take part in this topic.

Found this forum ascendantly.

I speak English and I'd like to improve my English skills.

It's very interesting to read hear about my own city.

Jonathan Pine
04-11-16, 21:14
Considering that this is the second largest city in the country, it's interesting and astonishing how limited the options there are.

You really have to wonder what factors are in play, relative to conservatism, corruption, protection, pay-offs, and how all those are tied to, or possibly not connected to this scene.

I can't speak for options found on the internet or in the strip clubs.

In the local gazetta, Prospekt, you used to be able to find only two very non-descript ads in the Zankomstva section way in the back. The ads were nothing more than a mobile number listed for a couple of very depressing run-down apartments in the center of the city, where you could call to get the address, and go for a visit to pay for some company by the hour. Prices were very low, about 200 grivna ($40) for an hour, with limited choices of from usually one or two, to sometimes three or or four ladies, in the 2-5 out of 10 range of quality, in the 22- 30 year old age range, with most of the ladies being unemployed mom's.

If you are not very fluent in Russian, and you call one of these places, you will have zero chance to find them. Your only shot would be to have your driver handle the call, and get you right to the door. But considering the very low quality you will find in these two apartments, compared to the unlimited numbers of 8's and 9's and 10's you see every day everywhere you go in the city, to settle for setting your goals and expectations that low, you should consider yourself about as desperate as you could get, and question what the hell you are even doing there..I totally agree. My thoughts are that in Russia where they have already reached "high income" status according to United Nations or World Bank classification. When they cross the threshold of certain income level, say 15000 rubles a month, survival is simply not an issue anymore. So the girls wouldn't do it simply for money. And there are many middle class or upper middle class local men now that they can date or marry. So good P4P option is limited now.

I have to disagree with many people here that our biggest competition is other foreigners. No, it's local men. How many foreign men do you guys see in the motherland? Local guys simply progressed from penniless drunks in the 90's to comfortable even affluent class now. Russia and to a lesser extend Ukraine have moved on.

Riina
04-12-16, 02:53
I have to disagree with many people here that our biggest competition is other foreigners. No, it's local men. How many foreign men do you guys see in the motherland? Local guys simply progressed from penniless drunks in the 90's to comfortable even affluent class now. Russia and to a lesser extend Ukraine have moved on.Few work options for most Ukrainian men. It's all cool for them when they are young and pretty but the fun will diminish and the girls know that.

Just like America in Ukraine. No job, no girl.

Achso
04-17-16, 12:39
Hello all,

Is the Moskovsko spot active again now that spring have come?

Suka Shalava
04-27-16, 12:16
In Russia they have reached "high income" status according to United Nations. When they cross the threshold of certain income level, say 15000 rubles a month, survival is simply not an issue anymore.

So girls wouldn't do it simply for money. So good P4P option is limited now.

JP,

I have to completely disagree with your theory. First of all, in my original post that you quoted, referencing the cat houses advertised in gazettas in Kharkov, I was only talking about 2000 to 2008, so there was no reaching of income level thresholds back then. There were, and still are, plenty of local ladies without jobs or earning just a measly pittance. And the economy went into crisis in 2008, so things did not get better then either.

Also, higher income levels can not be the reason that this form of business isn't able to operate as it did before. It is always controlled by somebody, and some protection is always paid for permission to do business, that's the way it always works, no mystery there. Basically, it's not all that much different than most other sectors of business in the economy. There's nothing nefarious or bad or unfair about that, it's simply a business model for organizations to operate.

What no one has explained, is why there are now ONLY ladies from Africa in the gazetta advertisements? The answer must be that this is all these apartments are allowed to offer. The exception to that is still saunas. And also the mini-van that operates only from 11 pm to 4 am that has 4 or 5 ladies who are 24 to 35 year old moms that need to pay bills, but you won't find the number for that in the gazetta anymore.

The other change, in Russia, is that the escort services completely stopped running any ads in the gazettas around 2012. There were a few VERY nice ladies available from 2008 until 2011, kind of the way the tochkas in Moscow used to be, but around 2012 that stopped. Now you basically need a taxi driver to hook you up for that service, but now you'll only find ladies in the 3 to 6 range available.

Jonathan Pine
05-01-16, 20:51
JP,

What no one has explained, is why there are now ONLY ladies from Africa in the gazetta advertisements? The answer must be that this is all these apartments are allowed to offer. The exception to that is still saunas. And also the mini-van that operates only from 11 pm to 4 am that has 4 or 5 ladies who are 24 to 35 year old moms that need to pay bills, but you won't find the number for that in the gazetta anymore.Yes. I think you hit the nail in the head. I also wonder why the rule changes. Maybe order from above. I remember 10 years old a hotel security handed me a piece of paper saying that they have girls. The note was written in English. Then the minivan came, girls came out and lined up in the hotel lobby for me to choose. So prostitution was very out in the open back then. But now it's under closed doors. Even more so than in many Western countries.

All the more important to be generous in order to find sponsorettes now.

Riina
06-04-16, 17:20
Is their something similar to the McDonalds and K street setup in Kharkov? Someplace where college age girls will linger and you could chat them up.

ChrisMe01
06-05-16, 15:49
Dear colleagues,

I will be visiting Kharkov in a couple of days. I will reside at the Palace Hotel in the city center. I am looking for addresses of salons which are near the hotel. Is it customary to just go there and ring the bell or do I need to call them first?

Kind regards!

Timmy21
06-07-16, 17:31
Is their something similar to the McDonalds and K street setup in Kharkov? Someplace where college age girls will linger and you could chat them up.Maybe I can help answer this question, Kharkov has no less than 8 McDonald's, and I think three of these would be an excellent place to chat up students girls, the first one (in no particular order) is located on Prospekt Nauki, (formally Prospekt Lenina) this McDonald's is located right next to the Nauki (sciences) metro station, on the green line. The national university as well as the medical university are close by, many university students visit this McDonald's, but it gets very busy during lunch time, so plan accordingly. Pushkinskya next to the metro station Architecture, (on the blue line) is another McDonald's, this McDonald's is also located near universities; therefore, many students visit this McDonald's as well. Another McDonald's to visit is located in the Ave Mall, or maybe it's Eva Mall, (on the first floor) in any case it's very easy to find. This is ha yl. Sumskya on Constitution Sq, near the metro station Constitution Sq on the red line. A few small colleges are located close to this McDonald's and also many very attractive shop employees visit this McDonald's. All three of these McDonald's are within 20 minutes walking distance from each other, and all in the center. My personal favorite is the one ha Prospekt Nauki. You may want to try and chat up some McDonald's cashiers, very cute girls work at these McDonald's and most are very friendly, but keep in mind, none speak English so knowing conversational Russian is a must. And just to mention, I would take these McDonald's over the McDonald's located on K street in Kiev any day, but then again, I prefer smaller Ukraine cities than Kiev.

Russel4339
06-11-16, 08:25
I don't know why, but I have always thought that the MacDonalds on Pushkinskya had incredibly looking women. (Noticeably more than the others). I think that it is a combination of the nearby universities and some large government buildings with lots of young workers nearby. However, the service at the MacDonalds by Nauki Metro station is much better. (Somehow I don't think the service is of much import to you).

Mediterrano
07-21-16, 12:44
Hi guys,

I'm a local guy, living here in Kharkov.

I like prostitutes and can take part in this topic.

Found this forum ascendantly.

I speak English and I'd like to improve my English skills.

It's very interesting to read hear about my own city.I'll be in Kharkov 22.7, will stay about 2 weeks, I'm coming to have fun, if anybody is in the city around those dates, would be glad to meet and join forces for mongering).

Russel4339
07-24-16, 09:37
I'll be in Kharkov 22.7, will stay about 2 weeks, I'm coming to have fun, if anybody is in the city around those dates, would be glad to meet and join forces for mongering).PM me. I should be around town at the same time.

Harry Hirsch
07-24-16, 10:15
PM me. I should be around town at the same time.PM, he can't do this, he is new.

But I think it is not good Idea, go to Kharkiv for hunting.

Some Years before, friend from me, 25, slim, nice looking try this. After 5 Days I must send him Girlfriend from Kiev.

Paris07
07-28-16, 18:31
You are a local man? Great!

I think you could give us a review on mongering in this city. Price, location, service and tips.

I think that will be of great help, cause a lot of us here are foreigners.

Thank you in advance!


Hi guys,

I'm a local guy, living here in Kharkov.

I like prostitutes and can take part in this topic.

Found this forum ascendantly.

I speak English and I'd like to improve my English skills.

It's very interesting to read hear about my own city.

Paris07
07-28-16, 18:50
Haha, so funny!

Where do you recommend to monger in Ukraine?

I remember that you said you like to go to small town and spend several days or even a whole week with girls with limited money.

But how did you find girls there?

And I see from your reports that you like anal sex, shake hands the forum "anal connoisseurs" is dying, could you write some reports there?

Thank you!


PM, he can't do this, he is new.

But I think it is not good Idea, go to Kharkiv for hunting.

Some Years before, friend from me, 25, slim, nice looking try this. After 5 Days I must send him Girlfriend from Kiev.

Russel4339
07-31-16, 19:51
You are a local man? Great!

I think you could give us a review on mongering in this city. Price, location, service and tips.

Hi! Check previous posts of mine in the Kharkov forum. I do a pretty detailed description every 6-8 months on the situation in the city. My last post was just a couple of months ago, I think.

Are!

Sorbonne
08-01-16, 04:56
Hi! Check previous posts of mine in the Kharkov forum. I do a pretty detailed description every 6-8 months on the situation in the city. My last post was just a couple of months ago, I think.

Are!Hi Russel,

I'm from Kiev forum and have not followed Kharkiv forum carefully.

I've read your last report from April 2. It is informative and believable. And if it is true, I'd go straight to Kharkiv, even skipping Kiev.

But I just don't know what to believe when some or most others here in this forum seem to be saying Kharkiv is not a place to go for mongering.

Can you or anybody offer any explanations?

Thanks in advance.

Misterxxx
08-01-16, 09:54
Hi Russel,

I'm from Kiev forum and have not followed Kharkiv forum carefully.

I've read your last report from April 2. It is informative and believable. And if it is true, I'd go straight to Kharkiv, even skipping Kiev.

But I just don't know what to believe when some or most others here in this forum seem to be saying Kharkiv is not a place to go for mongering.

Can you or anybody offer any explanations?

Thanks in advance.Don't trust a "Harry Hirsch". He is a smart aleck with no real experience in "our business". Kharkiv is a good place if you want to find girls. There are dozens of strip-clubs and it's more easy to find girls if you are not shy.

Russel4339
08-04-16, 01:47
But I just don't know what to believe when some or most others here in this forum seem to be saying Kharkiv is not a place to go for mongering.

Can you or anybody offer any explanations?

Thanks in advance.I live in Kharkov and visit Kiev often. I have a pretty good feel for both cities.

I think the people who do not appreciate Kharkov do not spend enough time here. It is not an especially pretty town. Kiev is much nicer. It is also much easier to get information about the local scene in Kiev. The Kiev forum is full of details so people can be prepared on where to go and what to do. Kharkov lacks such detail, therefore people who arrive cannot always find what they are looking for. But there is a good scene in Kharkov, it is cheaper and more open.

Kiev is Kiev. A known quantity. Kharkov takes a little more effort to get to and to explore. Some people will not find that attractive.

Just my thoughts. .

Volpone
08-04-16, 09:04
Hi Russel,

I'm from Kiev forum and have not followed Kharkiv forum carefully.

I've read your last report from April 2. It is informative and believable. And if it is true, I'd go straight to Kharkiv, even skipping Kiev.

But I just don't know what to believe when some or most others here in this forum seem to be saying Kharkiv is not a place to go for mongering.

Can you or anybody offer any explanations?

Thanks in advance.Hi Sorbonne,

I've been in both cities, 2 times in Kharkiv and many times in Kiev.

The fist time I was in Kharkiv, it was easy to get pretty girls for a much cheaper price than in Kiev. Of course you need to use Russian more than in Kiev. Second time was harder, but I still could manage to go to some apartments and to have a good time. However I ended up a few times without sex at the end of the day, because everything went wrong. Anyway it happens to me the same in Kiev, so for me both cities are equal, just easier in Kiev if you agree to pay quite a high price, what I usually don't.

Parovoz
09-04-16, 15:18
You are a local man? Great!

I think you could give us a review on mongering in this city. Price, location, service and tips.

I think that will be of great help, cause a lot of us here are foreigners.

Thank you in advance!Hi Paris07,

Yeah, I'm local, I'm using our girls from time to time.).

We need foreign tourists now.

I'd say the main issue is a language.

Unfortunately our prostitutes don't speak English at all.

It seems we have now just one big brothel in the city.

It's like a monopoly.

Prices are from 500 to 1000 UAH.

Please be careful, sex business is still not legal in Ukraine.

Please ask me what you'd like to know.

Sorbonne
09-05-16, 23:11
Hi Paris07,

Yeah, I'm local, I'm using our girls from time to time.).

We need foreign tourists now.

I'd say the main issue is a language.

Unfortunately our prostitutes don't speak English at all.

It seems we have now just one big brothel in the city.

It's like a monopoly.

Prices are from 500 to 1000 UAH.

Please be careful, sex business is still not legal in Ukraine.

Please ask me what you'd like to know.Which one is the big brothel?

Do they have a website?

Thanks.

Parovoz
09-06-16, 20:09
Which one is the big brothel?

Do they have a website?

Thanks.Yes they have.

Please google like.

Mini house Kharkov.

They have English version but don't speak English.

Photos are mostly real but corrected.

Most of the girls look ugly in real live.

Prices are on the website.

Russel4339
09-06-16, 21:44
It seems we have now just one big brothel in the city.

It's like a monopoly.Actually, there are a lot of private apartments / salons in the city. You can find a list of them here (and links to their ladies):

http://relaxkharkiv.com/eng/salons/

Now. They may actually be ran / controlled by the same people; that I don't know. I do know that some of them are tied together by the same management. I am not sure if they are all.

Goodbye Lenin
09-07-16, 09:16
I had been to Kharkov around a month ago for some days: clubs and discos are full of hordes of horny Turkish guys getting there by a Turkish low cost company (Pegasus), they are generally very pushy so girls are always on the defensive. Just very few girls can speak at least some words of English, so russian is mandatory. I went also to a strip club (Casta), some nice girls but takeout was not possible. By day I explored the P4P scene with the help of a taxi driver who called for me a list of apartments that I had previously selected on internet: I visited 6 or 7 of them (it seems they are all mafia controlled) but I was disappointed by the quality of girls which is just average or even below average. Eventually I tried 2 of them: a slim brunette with small tits who spoke at least some words of English, paid 1500 UAH +500 UAH for OWO but service was very poor: too much lube and she even asked me to come quickly because she had pain in her pussy. I asked for DATY and DFK but they were not on the menu. No GFE at all. I rate 6/10 the girl and 2/10 her service. The next day I tried another apartment, chose a brunette with big tits, no english at all, paid 1000 UAH + 300 UAH for FK. I asked for OWO and DATY but they were not allowed. Sex was slightly better, but this girl did not put any effort in the social time to try to have a conversation. I used google translator to try to talk to her but her only answers were Niet or the (Yes or No in Russian). I rate 5/10 the girl and 5/10 her service. No GFE.

All in all not a memorable experience: I would recommend Kharkov only to russian speakers that can have some chance with freebies and do not mind elbowing with Turks in clubs, the P4P scene seems to me to be just a waste of time.

Timmy21
09-08-16, 10:16
When I am in Kharkov there's one absolute rule I always follow, I always go for the more expensive girls, 1,000 and above, I am not saying you'll receive a better experience, but most always the more elite girls will be more classier, better looking and have much more energy. My last visit to Kharkov I made a grave mistake and broke this rule, I called an agency that offered girls for 500, she came over for a few hour visit and she said she was non-stop with Turkish guys and other foreigners, I lost interest and sent her home after an hour or so. I can speak Russian, I don't have Russian mastered, but I can speak enough to get by; as a result, I always have the girl come to meat my apartment. It's very easy to explain; in Russian, to the operator the kind of girl you're looking for and how long you want her for. Kharkov isn't Kiev, therefore, you have to be able to speak the language at least conversationally.

Sean EZ
09-19-16, 11:55
Was there last weekend, a shithole. Big grey dark city, not much to do. There are some clubs, I went to Bolero, quality of girls is not good. Prices are about 1/2 of Kiev. It's a big industrial city, very spread out, so it's long taxi rides to get to and from anywhere, there isn't a walking street unlike Kiev where there are people everywhere. In my view not worth it.

Emreist34
11-19-16, 00:06
Hello,

I will go to Kharkov next week and I will stay 4 days. I have few days, so have a suggestions or contact to sex club, esc for relax and quality times.

Thanks.

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Jandeargh
02-13-17, 17:00
I just came back from Kharkiv. (Kharkiv is Ukrainian name, Kharkov is Russian name).

I stayed at Hotel19 ($55/ night w / breakfast), very beautiful hotel with a very good restaurant called Abajour downstairs. Staff is friendly and pretty. It's in the middle of the city so location is perfect (Sumskaya 19).

I've been with 3 girls in 3 days.

1. I went to Radmir Club, upscale club with multiple areas. Cocktails are weak so I recommend getting straight hard liquor. I've been to Bolero and Misto before but Radmir had the best and most beautiful girls I've seen. Problem is language, as mentioned in other posts, English language is not common like in Kiev. After a few hit miss, I found a girl who works in foreign trade and speaks very good English. Rest is easy if you like to talk and tell interesting stories. After a lot of drinks and dancing we spent the night in Hotel19. She was really pretty, I would say 7-8 / 10.

I stayed for a week so I took up the advice about Mambo, I signed up for a VIP account and started checking girls who are looking for sponsors. Sponsor meaning you take them out to nice dinners, buy them some stuff and if they ask support their rent etc so you call them whenever you need. I've also changed my profile to "willing to provide sponsorship" so they also started messaging me. Again, language is an issue but not when you are chatting thanks to Google Translate.

2. I met #2 for dinner after chatting on Mambo for a couple of days. She had here real photos in Mambo. She was a 8/10, 1.73, around 55 kg, very fit body, beautiful brunette. 23 yo. We spend a couple of hours together, communicated with our limited English and Russian and Google Translate. So, second time I took her to lunch than asked if she would come to my room. Lunch, dinner, drinks etc and one afternoon in my room with DFK, DATY, OWO and 3 times classic sex cost me something like $150. I gave her $100 for that afternoon. This is expensive for Kharkiv standards, I know, but I liked her and she had legs to die for.

3. In the meanwhile I was chatting with 3 other girls. So decided on other one and invited her for dinner. She said she had a boyfriend and does this to support the family and didn't want to be seen around with a foreigner. And also told me photos on Mambo were not her actual photos but she sent me her real photos. Actually she was much prettier So she came to my room directly. 1.72 , around 50 kg, 19 yo, brunette with flawless skin, blue eyes. Incredibly beautiful. Actually I was shocked when I opened the door, my mouth dropped. Anyways, this one cost only 1000 UAH which is like $40 . She was not experienced like #2, OWC, DFK and classic sex twice and amateur massage. Plus we had wine in the room and I paid her taxi as well.

I met 2 other girls but I didn't like their attitude much so it didn't go far, just a few drinks that's all. So, if you plan to visit Kharkiv, work on Mambo, work on girls looking for sponsorship.

Also for easier and cheaper solutions mini-house still works, there are some active phone numbers. But I prefer these girls looking for sponsorship.

Good luck.

Simon999
04-03-17, 15:36
I arrived once in Kharkov. It is quite a beautiful city with ancient architecture in the center of the city. I have sunk myself a girl at night. I must say that in Kharkov, just chic Slavic girls) I really liked the girl. In Kharkov, what a special atmosphere. The awesome girl that I ordered is working in the Lipstick salon. I can confidently advise the girls of this salon to everyone! And finally I will share with you the phone number of this sex salon - +38099XXXX299. Good luck to all!

NikkiCob
04-14-17, 19:13
Hello guys,

I am going to Kharkov in June for couple of days. I will be there just to have rest out of my usual daily stuff and to have some fun.

I want to know few things before I go there because that will be my first visit to the country of Ukraine.

I know it's relatively cheap as it comes to hotel, food and such stuff.

But I have no idea what to expect when it comes to girls and fun.

There are two questions I would like to get an answer from you guys.

1. I am not good with Russian / Ukrainian language. I can understand most of the things people say but can't speak it and I know that's a problem, but please tell me it's not making things impossible?

2. I will try to work on Mamba, but if you can tell me some salons or agencies to check too? And also, I prefer not go to some apartments, but to bring girls to my room when it comes to that, is that a normal practice there (ladies to come to hotel's room)?

Thank you in advance!

Hedonist
05-07-17, 18:26
Had a chance to have mini escape to Kharkov to take a breather from the routine of a family man. Spent 3 full days. Yes, the the city is full of Turks and I am one of them. Even in comparison to Kiev, Kharkov feels small and provincial. It is very safe and easy to navigate. Used the On Taxi app which works great.

Checked out the strip club Casta. Small joint with a depressive atmosphere. There were several beauties but girls are too much to your face. 90% of clients were Turks. Take away is not available. But had chit-chat with a girl who is a tattoo master. She asked me to buy her coffee and out conversation came to Thailand and Thai Sak-Yant tattoos. She was very keen to come with me to Thailand. If I didn't have a wife that would have a nice trip... Took her phone number and left after a few drinks and moved to Bolero.

Got lucky in Bolero, which was not difficult even for a rusted x-clubber in his late 30 ies. In Ukraine the trick is to dress classy, act classy and pretend that you are not there to pick up a girl. Being able to speak some Russian helps a lot. I met a nice professional chick who was one of the few girls who signaled interest. Late 20 ies, professional, zero English. Late into the night took her out from the venue to get some Sushi (this Sushi trick always works to isolate). After a late night dinner we had a brief walk on Sumskaya where I acted like I am not into a one night stand and wanted to go back to my hotel to sleep. While we were waiting her taxi to arrive, I initiated a kiss and we ended in my room in my in Hotel 19. Hotel 19 is probably not on par with Premier Palace but it is clean, serves pretty good breakfast and very central. If you are planning to pick-up girls it is better to stay in an apartment so that the girls feel more comfortable.

I checked out some of the salons. It took me 2-3 salons until I found doable girls. Quality of girls in salons with less 1200 UAH / hour are pretty bad. The line-up in Lady-X (1500 UAH, Sumskaya 124 a) and Flirt (1200 UAH, Sumskaya 100) were much better. You can find their phone numbers online. Somehow, girls at Prestige (1500 UAH) were not any better than those at salons in the 1000 UAH or less category. Koritza, Karamel, and Bella Casa sucked. Lady-x and Flirt are in walking distance to Hotel 19.

Had a regular Thai massage in a place called Lilawadee for ~500 UAH / hour. Although the massage was good and provided by a Thai woman, ambiance of the massage salon leaves much to be desired. Not recommended.

Hope this helps some fellow mongerers.

Tomek123
05-25-17, 01:56
Spring 2017 in Kharkov.

May 2017.

Tuesday.

Oksana.

We went to a cafe. Then it started to rain. We decided to continue our conversation. Her phone rings and she walked away from our little table. Probably, it was her boyfriend. Maybe not. Then again someone called her. She turned out to be a student of design.

The rain was over and we walked towards the park where there is a huge monument to Shevchenko. We joked about different topics and we were attracted by the scene of a drunken man who was trying to get acquainted with the girls. He was holding a flower in his hand and barely kept on his feet and tried to read poetry. This It was funny. We were attracted by a large squirrel that jumped around us. This sight brought Oksana into rapture. We began to observe her jumps. I hugged her a little around the waist. She's in a short skirt and it makes me a little nervous. She looks at the squirrel and says -what a cool! WOOw! I feel a little excitement being next to her.

I like to look at her white neck and big baby lips. She is 21 years old. Her height is probably 175-176 cm. I notice a large mole on her neck. We pass and see the scene. The guy kisses passionately with the girl on the bench. I noticed that Oksana watches them with interest. For Kharkov, as I have noticed, this is quite an ordinary scene. The girl is very excited and the guy started stroking her body. In the park there are not many people so maybe they are quite uninhibited. She tells me her impressions of Lviv, but I think and fantasize about how she sucks my dick. I support the conversation and also talk about my visits to Lviv, About the beautiful old architecture and wonderful cafes of Lviv, but my thoughts about how I fuck her in my apartment. It's a bit fettering me. We pass by a group of 4-5 male students from Arab countries. They are discussing something and loudly laughing. I see how greedy and lascivious they look at the Oksana. Especially on her short skirt and nice white legs. We speak on the topic of the Arabs and she tells me an amusing story from the life of her friend Olga.

I invite her to my cozy apartment. I'm hinting at her for a gift. She flirts. She asks if I'm not a maniac? I reply that in some intimate moments I'm a bit of a maniac but in general I'm a fan of classical music and movies. She is again called by someone and she moves away from me a little. I understand that she is talking with her friend. She tells me that she needs to go urgently and that today she is too busy. But she says that she was very interested in communicating with me. Probably this is a hidden hint.

In the evening I called my acquaintance, MILF, Yulia, whom I met in March. She does a good massage and a good blowjob. 32 years and she loves to fuck. During sex she makes wild sounds like an animal, her hair is black but she paints them in blond.

Her favorite pose in sex is a rider. During sex she cuddles her nails into my chest. Sometimes it hurts but I'm patient. I'm excited after talking and walking with a young oxana so my eggs are heavy like stones. In my imagination the women's breasts and legs. And ass. She drops my call but then in 20 minutes she calls me. She tells me that she has a boyfriend so she has to be more careful than before.

She is ready to come to me but not today and tomorrow about 5 pm. When she will go home from work. I understand that she is not alone as before. I'm trying to get acquainted with a little brunette 23-24 years old with a big succulent ass in jeans but she tells me that she is 2 years old married and loves her husband. We are chatting. I'm walking next to her for a while. I feel a little tired. I smile and wish her all the best and I say that she is probably the best girl in Kharkov. But unfortunately married. Such a drama. She laughs. We say goodbye. I look with longing for her fantastic ass in tight jeans. Cool ass. She maybe 7/10 but her ass just cool. I come to my apartment and think about Oksana and a married brunette. I would like to fuck them both. Like an animal. These thoughts fill my brain. This city takes my life force as a vampire.

Wednesday.

I'm fucking MILF Julia. Or she is fucking me. She does not have much time so we did not even drink coffee. She went into my apartment and we kissed. Then she went to the bathroom. She has a little extra weight but her boobs are good. Her face is also pretty. Slavic type. She actively works hips during sex. I like how she works as a vagina. . e her vagina is very greedy as a predatory beast. She is pulling her clit. She likes very much when I bite her nipples. She jumps on me.

Her vagina is fucking me hard. I feel that I'm finishing. I put it in the dog's position and after a few frictions I have a sharp orgasm. I finished in a condom. She told me that she really likes when she feels the drops of sperm on her back and the priest. These drops always excite her.

She, like many Ukrainian MILF, loves men and a man's body and sex. In this country the MILF appreciate a good dick and love a good dick. Often these are wild lustful females in bed. They do not want to lose their boyfriend or husband but sometimes they also passionately want a new dick. They appreciate good sex and masculine strength. Probably this is due to the shortage of men in the country. Women are too many. I give her some money and we say goodbye. She kisses me and says, poka. I think that she would love to fuck with me without money.

Thursday.

I met an amazing girl in a bookshop in the city center. We had a pleasant talk on different topics. She is beautiful but not arrogant. I bought a book with good illustrations about the Ukrainian history of the 17th century. I want to go to this store again.

I spoke with an Oksana on the phone. I thought that I was interesting to her. (and also a money). I met on a dating site with several girls. One of them is ready to meet soon. 26 years old.

Girls in the street Kharkow, Youtube video.

W. youtube.com/ watch? V=omiPLbhAfX4.

Also nice video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZMVB-SKUW0

Kharkow girls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl0RF2gxylo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwWm-VXNosA

Nice video-Ukrainian chicks. Euro 2012. Kharkow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyMbtFsW1a4

Simon999
07-14-17, 14:42
Hello,

As I said, I came to Ukraine, Kharkov for business, but I was lucky also to have a good time with the girl I found. I found this girl in the social network VK. It turned out that the girl is working in a brothel. The brothel is called "Passiflora". In general, I liked everything there, in Kharkov beautiful girls I think that if I come to Kharkov then I'll have to order some girls for myself. I found their site https://www.vip-dosug.org/prostitutki/prostitutki-kharkova/. On this I'll probably finish my story and I can confidently all advise the girls of this brothel.

Remo965
07-14-17, 18:54
Hello,

As I said, I came to Ukraine, Kharkov for business, but I was lucky also to have a good time with the girl I found. I found this girl in the social network VK. It turned out that the girl is working in a brothel. The brothel is called "Passiflora". In general, I liked everything there, in Kharkov beautiful girls I think that if I come to Kharkov then I'll have to order some girls for myself. I found their site https://www.vip-dosug.org/prostitutki/prostitutki-kharkova/. On this I'll probably finish my story and I can confidently all advise the girls of this brothel.Interesting. I go to Kiev every month and would visit Kharkov next time. Please, ask some information, if you know it: are the pictures real?. Are the girls coming to the hotel or not leaving the salon?

Ringudor
07-22-17, 20:54
Hi everybody,

I will be in Kharkov last week of July, if someone wants to meet, share notes and drink some beer together, just message me.

Gosha62
07-28-17, 10:04
Hi everybody,

I will be in Kharkov last week of July, if someone wants to meet, share notes and drink some beer together, just message me.Hello Ringudor,

Are you in Kharkiv now.

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Ringudor
07-28-17, 17:49
Yes, but I cannot send you MP.


Hello Ringudor,

Are you in Kharkiv now.

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EnricoMacias
08-14-17, 22:06
On 18 August, I will arrive at Kharkiv for the first time. I visited Kiev for several times before.

Any advices and suggestion for Kharkiv?

Asv004
09-27-17, 16:32
Hello,

I plan to visit Kharkov soon. This is my first time. Can someone give advise:

1) If I plan to pick up girls, would you prefer I get a hotel versus rent an apartment?

2) Is "kharkov. Relaxportal" a good site to pick up girls?

3) It is illegal, but what are the chances getting caught? It seems to be tolerated.

Zidane10
12-07-17, 12:50
Good day,

Taking into consideration my previous unsuccessful trip to Ukraine, I did my homework this time and figured out that Kharkov would be optimum choice for the trip. The main factor to choose Kharkov was that it is predominantly Russian speaking city full of students. I want to visit Kharkov in the second part of April when it is getting a bit warmer and some girls would need temporary sponsorship in exchange for carnal passion. Besides, as far as I know for Ukrainian standards it is not as wealthy as Kiev, therefore price tag should be less or at least I'll get more quality for less money. Given its lower standards than Kiev I assume that girls there are more down to earth and less cynical. I might also consider Poltava and somewhat smaller towns, however I have a feeling that Kharkov will work this time. Please tell me your experience and give me some advice in order to avoid unnecessary costs or surprises.

Many thanks in advance.

UrbanCowboy22
12-29-17, 03:24
Seasons Greetings from Ukraine. After a few nights out and about in Kiev, it was time to travel a bit further east to Kharkiv. Since there isn't a lot of recent reports, I thought I would share my first day and night out. There used to be a website.

Mini-house. Kh. Ua that had pictures of girls working at the various salons in town, however I couldn't get the site to work, even tried to use a vpn. Used the relax website & contacted a few different salons and they sent photos and prices using viber and whatsapp. Prices of the apartment girls that I contacted were anywhere from 800-1400 uah an hour. I usually hate to order off a website without seeing a girl in person first but I gambled & yes the girl that showed up wasn't exactly like her photos and maybe about five to six years older than what the agency had said but not really bad enough to send away by taxi. Paid 1400 & then she asked for another 250 uah for taxi. Expensive taxi I guess or maybe she had come from nearby Sumy. Anyhow, took a quick shower, came out and the girl had raided the minibar of chocolate and whiskey. Add another 500 uah for that. She also took the condoms but had not yet opened the package. Classic sex with a covered BJ, nothing spectacular and before you know it, our time was up. Wouldn't repeat with this agency, it wasn't a classic bait and switch but buyer beware. After she left, I showered again & headed for the hotel bar. I had read about this particular hotel on TripAdvisor of someone complaining about a lot of working girls occupying the tables. However this wasn't the case and there was none to be found, at least on this night. After dinner and a few drinks, I went to Bolero nightclub. It wasn't busy but there were five girls that appeared to be working at one of the bars in the complex. I wasn't exactly positive until the end of the night when one approached me and asked me if I wanted sex. She quoted $100 & I politely declined as she wasn't my type. As far as the overall scene in kharkiv, I imagine it's a lot more fun when the universities are in session. Will report again in the next few days.

DudeNextDoor
03-27-18, 16:45
Seems like government shutting down or disabling some addresses in Ukraine. Use a good VPN.

http://mini-house.057.ua

Looks like they moved.


Seasons Greetings from Ukraine. After a few nights out and about in Kiev, it was time to travel a bit further east to Kharkiv. Since there isn't a lot of recent reports, I thought I would share my first day and night out. There used to be a website.

Mini-house. Kh. Ua that had pictures of girls working at the various salons in town, however I couldn't get the site to work, even tried to use a vpn. Used the relax website & contacted a few different salons and they sent photos and prices using viber and whatsapp. Prices of the apartment girls that I contacted were anywhere from 800-1400 uah an hour. I usually hate to order off a website without seeing a girl in person first but I gambled & yes the girl that showed up wasn't exactly like her photos and maybe about five to six years older than what the agency had said but not really bad enough to send away by taxi. Paid 1400 & then she asked for another 250 uah for taxi. Expensive taxi I guess or maybe she had come from nearby Sumy. Anyhow, took a quick shower, came out and the girl had raided the minibar of chocolate and whiskey. Add another 500 uah for that. She also took the condoms but had not yet opened the package. Classic sex with a covered BJ, nothing spectacular and before you know it, our time was up. Wouldn't repeat with this agency, it wasn't a classic bait and switch but buyer beware. After she left, I showered again & headed for the hotel bar. I had read about this particular hotel on TripAdvisor of someone complaining about a lot of working girls occupying the tables. However this wasn't the case and there was none to be found, at least on this night. After dinner and a few drinks, I went to Bolero nightclub. It wasn't busy but there were five girls that appeared to be working at one of the bars in the complex. I wasn't exactly positive until the end of the night when one approached me and asked me if I wanted sex. She quoted $100 & I politely declined as she wasn't my type. As far as the overall scene in kharkiv, I imagine it's a lot more fun when the universities are in session. Will report again in the next few days.

NikkiCob
04-06-18, 21:39
Hello there guys,

It has been a while since my last visit (and my first one actually) to this beautiful city. And since the last I was there just for few days I decided to stay in an apartment. But this time I would like to spend some more time and I would prefer to stay at a hotel. That's why I would like you to share with me a list with so-called "guest friendly hotels" in Kharkov. I read about Hotel 19, but it would be great to have at least few more options.

Thanks in advance!

Jojab007
04-10-18, 02:50
Warning!

Be aware when contacting girls from mamba, ukrgo, tinder, etc.

Some guys, posing as girls, are collecting your information. Pictures, phone number, location.

They do search on internet against that information, even background images in your pictures. Finally they post all that data on these extortion websites called hall of shame and ask you to register and pay $100 to remove your content.

I know all that because I became victim myself. Luckily, I always use fake picture and virtual phone numbers.

Please be careful when sharing your information, especially when girl seem too interested in your personal life.

PM me if you want specific information.

Michi T
05-14-18, 00:38
Is Hotel 19 really "girls friend"? I would not feel comfortable taking a fuck girl in that hotel. It is familiar athmosphere and front desk girls know hotel guests fast and good.


Hello there guys,

It has been a while since my last visit (and my first one actually) to this beautiful city. And since the last I was there just for few days I decided to stay in an apartment. But this time I would like to spend some more time and I would prefer to stay at a hotel. That's why I would like you to share with me a list with so-called "guest friendly hotels" in Kharkov. I read about Hotel 19, but it would be great to have at least few more options.

Thanks in advance!

Jandeargh
05-20-18, 23:30
Had a chance to have mini escape to Kharkov to take a breather from the routine of a family man. Spent 3 full days. Yes, the the city is full of Turks and I am one of them. Even in comparison to Kiev, Kharkov feels small and provincial. It is very safe and easy to navigate. Used the On Taxi app which works great.

Checked out the strip club Casta. Small joint with a depressive atmosphere. There were several beauties but girls are too much to your face. 90% of clients were Turks. Take away is not available. But had chit-chat with a girl who is a tattoo master. She asked me to buy her coffee and out conversation came to Thailand and Thai Sak-Yant tattoos. She was very keen to come with me to Thailand. If I didn't have a wife that would have a nice trip... Took her phone number and left after a few drinks and moved to Bolero.

Got lucky in Bolero, which was not difficult even for a rusted x-clubber in his late 30 ies. In Ukraine the trick is to dress classy, act classy and pretend that you are not there to pick up a girl. Being able to speak some Russian helps a lot. I met a nice professional chick who was one of the few girls who signaled interest. Late 20 ies, professional, zero English. Late into the night took her out from the venue to get some Sushi (this Sushi trick always works to isolate). After a late night dinner we had a brief walk on Sumskaya where I acted like I am not into a one night stand and wanted to go back to my hotel to sleep. While we were waiting her taxi to arrive, I initiated a kiss and we ended in my room in my in Hotel 19..Thanks mate, this is really useful information. Have you tried Imperia?

Wingwang
10-17-18, 23:24
Hello fellow mongers,

I have been debating whether I spend a week in Kharkiv. There are not many girls on Mamba and the response rate is really low compared to Kiev. I don't speak Russian, so it is another obstacle to approach students & the semi.

Any advice from those whom visited Kharkiv recently. Thanks!

HW.

Volpone
10-18-18, 11:08
Hello fellow mongers,

I have been debating whether I spend a week in Kharkiv. There are not many girls on Mamba and the response rate is really low compared to Kiev. I don't speak Russian, so it is another obstacle to approach students & the semi.

Any advice from those whom visited Kharkiv recently. Thanks!

HW.The situation must be similar as Odessa. If you count on Mamba, it will take time to find non-pros as the choice is limited. I had only 2 non-pros in 6 weeks in Odessa. So I was using pros, that's your best move there, especially if you Don't have so much time to look for them. Pros are cheaper than in Kiev, so Don't hesitate to get the price down. If they Don't, just go to another private flat, that's full of them or call another number to get an escort.

Russel4339
10-18-18, 15:27
Hello fellow mongers,

I have been debating whether I spend a week in Kharkiv. There are not many girls on Mamba and the response rate is really low compared to Kiev. I don't speak Russian, so it is another obstacle to approach students & the semi.

Any advice from those whom visited Kharkiv recently. Thanks!

HW.Okay. I haven't written anything on Kharkov for a while. But I have been living here more than 6 years. Here are some thoughts.

About Mamba in Kharkov. It has been pretty dead lately if you are looking for girls who want "sponsorship". There are some nice looking girls, but even speaking Russian does not necessarily help you meet them. Not sure why this is. And you are right. In Kiev the response rate is much better in Kiev. Sometimes the girls you get are simply girls sent out from the salons.

It is easier to pick up semi-pros and non-pros, but this takes time and typically several dates with non-pros. (I have time, so that works for me). Semi-pros are girls who work real jobs but simply looking for extra money. These are good to find. (I have met some who are teachers, bank workers, students, married, etc.). Also. There is no guarantee what will happen when you meet, but about 90% of the time it is positive. Look for ladies who are between 25-35 who are looking for sex, but not necessarily sponsorship. Be respectful when you write. (There are a lot of hot women here in their early 30's). Prices are ridiculously low. (one nice looking girl in her early 30's - 700 UAH an hour. Or $26/ HR). It is definitely economical. Most will meet you at your hotel.

Non-pros are the best, but time and language make this difficult for visitors to Kharkov. I always have two or three girlfriends here.

I have not found a good strip club in Kharkov. They are all like Costa. See below. The White Cockatoo was okay, but it closed. Street action is there, but difficult to find.

Salons are here also. They are okay if you don't know the area or have the time. Never really been impressed with the quality of service, though. (Pretty much worldwide. Not necessarily Kharkov. But that is me).

However, I have not found a hotel that is not girl friendly. Nobody ever asks or even seems to care.

Anyway. Kharkov has some beautiful women. Much more so than Kiev, I think. But it is also a more conservative and difficult town to find what you want quickly. It is here, though.

Kater100
10-18-18, 15:46
Okay. I haven't written anything on Kharkov for a while. But I have been living here more than 6 years. Here are some thoughts.

About Mamba in Kharkov. It has been pretty dead lately if you are looking for girls who want "sponsorship". There are some nice looking girls, but even speaking Russian does not necessarily help you meet them. Not sure why this is. And you are right. In Kiev the response rate is much better in Kiev. Sometimes the girls you get are simply girls sent out from the salons.

It is easier to pick up semi-pros and non-pros, but this takes time and typically several dates with non-pros. (I have time, so that works for me). Semi-pros are girls who work real jobs but simply looking for extra money. These are good to find. (I have met some who are teachers, bank workers, students, married, etc.). Also. There is no guarantee what will happen when you meet, but about 90% of the time it is positive. Look for ladies who are between 25-35 who are looking for sex, but not necessarily sponsorship. Be respectful when you write. (There are a lot of hot women here in their early 30's). Prices are ridiculously low. (one nice looking girl in her early 30's - 700 UAH an hour. Or $26/ HR). It is definitely economical. Most will meet you at your hotel.

Non-pros are the best, but time and language make this difficult for visitors to Kharkov. I always have two or three girlfriends here.

I have not found a good strip club in Kharkov. They are all like Costa. See below. The White Cockatoo was okay, but it closed. Street action is there, but difficult to find.

Salons are here also. They are okay if you don't know the area or have the time. Never really been impressed with the quality of service, though. (Pretty much worldwide. Not necessarily Kharkov. But that is me).

However, I have not found a hotel that is not girl friendly. Nobody ever asks or even seems to care.

Anyway. Kharkov has some beautiful women. Much more so than Kiev, I think. But it is also a more conservative and difficult town to find what you want quickly. It is here, though.Hello Russel,

Because you live in Kharkov. I have one question: What is the situation in Bars and Clubs? Is it possible to find some WG like in Kiev (eg. Caribbean Club.) If yes. In which?

Russel4339
10-19-18, 12:44
Hello Russel,

Because you live in Kharkov. I have one question: What is the situation in Bars and Clubs? Is it possible to find some WG like in Kiev (eg. Caribbean Club.) If yes. In which?Clubs. Certainly at Balero and Misto if you play your cards right it is possible to leave with a nice young lady. They are a little dead during the week, though. Balero has an older crowd.

Bars. I don't know. But if you want to see beautiful women, go the the Terrace Bar on the 11th floor of the Kharkov Palace. They have some of the most beautiful and classy waitresses in all of the Ukraine. (Dress extraordinarily classy too). My clients stay there and always rave about the waitresses. You will see beautiful Ukrainian women in this bar also. Seeing how this is a high end bar with a, normally, foreign clientele, I would think that it may be able to meet some of these women more than socially. However, I have never tried because I am usually with someone when I go there.

Sorry I can't give better advice on bars and clubs. But I don't frequent these places often.

Goodbye Lenin
10-21-18, 19:53
Is it possible to find some WG like in Kiev (eg. Caribbean Club.) If yes. In which?No, there are no working girls or pros in clubs in Kharkov, they are not allowed.

Michi T
11-13-18, 01:59
It is easier to pick up semi-pros and non-pros, but this takes time and typically several dates with non-pros. (I have time, so that works for me). Semi-pros are girls who work real jobs but simply looking for extra money. These are good to find. (I have met some who are teachers, bank workers, students, married, etc.). Also. There is no guarantee what will happen when you meet, but about 90% of the time it is positive. Look for ladies who are between 25-35 who are looking for sex, but not necessarily sponsorship. First part: so true, one needs time, not only in Kharkiv, but also in other parts of Ukraina.

Second part: where do you find such girls, how do you see that they are open for sponsoring?

Goodbye Lenin
11-13-18, 09:56
First part: so true, one needs time, not only in Kharkiv, but also in other parts of Ukraina.

Second part: where do you find such girls, how do you see that they are open for sponsoring?There are several dating sites, but you need to speak Russian.

Michi T
11-13-18, 21:10
There are several dating sites, but you need to speak Russian.What name sites.

DramaFree11
11-14-18, 02:50
What name sites.I think you will be disappointed with the dating sites and this will take up a lot of time, with Fake Profiles and other issues. I would concentrate on meeting the girls on the streets.

Good luck.

GDreams
11-14-18, 11:56
There are several dating sites, but you need to speak Russian.Or just use google translate. Just do a search using znakomstva and the city you are searching in Cyrillic and it will give some local sites.

Timmy21
11-27-18, 13:00
Just visited the Imperia massage salon located in the center of Kharkov, close to metro stations Derzprom on the green line and University and Pushkina on the blue line, very easy to locate. I had two girls for two hours which equals two hours of total non-stop fun, the girls provided a good lesbian show, both masturbated, each other and them selves. It was a bit pricey, but I will most certainly return, this is no doubt one of the best salons in all of Ukraine.

Ukpunter2015
12-26-18, 00:04
Hi guys,

This is a review of primarily the cheaper salons in Kharkov.

My source for locating pros was ukrgo. I took the numbers from ukrgo and added them as contacts on Viber. Viber I found to be the best way to communicate. About 50% of women listed on ukrgo are salons even though they look like individuals.

If the woman is a salon then the contact will appear with the name of the salon. I used google translate to ask for the lineup and location of the salon.

In all the salons I went to. They ask you to shower first. And then they leave you in the room and go shower themselves.

I went to the following salons over a period of 4 days.

Burlesque (400 UAH).

Girls on 500 UAH.

Girls on 600 UAH.

Girls on 700 UAH.

Girls on 850 uah (I only saw the lineup here. They had to go to a hotel apparently).

I also visited an independent woman who charged 600 uah.

Burlesque (400 UAH) (11).

For this price I was not expecting much, however I was surprised. The girls were not supermodels. But most of them had great bodies (compared to uk standards). They were mostly over 30 , although there was a 20 year old present at one line up.

I went here three times on three occasions and surprisingly was not disappointed. Well worth the little money!

Frist time. Women in 30's, trusting kind looking face and surprisingly a very young looking body with perky breasts and relatively tight body. The room was old but illuminated by daylight from the window which really showed off this woman's classic clean body and gave me an instant hardon. She proceeded to give me a covered BJ while massaging my scrotum. It felt really passionate even though I was expecting a rushed service. I don't have intercourse with pro's (personal reasons) but everything else I do. She allowed me to touch her in most places (no finger in asshole, but I don't enjoy that anyway and no kissing on lips) . I was totally satisfied and used the entire hour and was offered tea or water at the end. For 11 . Well worth it.

Second time. Also woman in 30's similar body to first. But wanted 200 uah extra for fingering or licking. I paid and didn't regret it much. Service was not rushed and similar to first time with really passionate hugging.

Third time. There was a 20 year old in the line up (plump body) but she didn't smile at me. So I picked the over 30 woman. She had no breasts and her body was less than attractive but tight. However the service totally made up, she was submissive and expected me to finger and lick her. Seems like she was enjoying it herself. I felt satisfied.

Girls on 500 uah (apparently there is an "express" service for 300 uah).

They have two salons located in the suburbs but close to metro.

I went here four times on four different occasions.

First time I went in the morning. And a girl (about 25-30) opened up and asked "you want girl?" to which I said yes. Then I waited outside and when she opened the door again she was dressed in her underwear, just one girl on lineup, young body, very nice ass. She spoke some English, and we talked and touched and she gave me a nice CBJ. Her personality was amazing, she kissed me on the lips and hugged passionately. Her face felt very comforting next to my face. At no point did she rush me or charge extra. Very respectful. 15 well spent.

Second time. Went in pitch dark to the second salon (stupid I know) . But nothing bad happened. Met one woman probably 35+ . Nice standard service. Ageing body but still held shape. Touched and hugged and CBJ.

Third time. Plump girl about 24 , nice tight body, however not very respectful. Was on her phone as I was touching her. Felt offended when I said I don't have sex. No kissing even on the body, didn't stay for long, somehow I came.

Fourth time. Big lineup this time. But some of the weirdest girls I have seen. Mostly under 25 , but looked like they may have mental illnesses, I felt mostly sorry for them this time, somehow they went from special needs school to prostitute, really strange lineup. I chose the girl who was smiling at me (bad idea) . She was overweight with non-birth related stretchmarks on her body. I thought she would give a nice service. But she treated my like a doll, she pulled my hand so hard and threw me on the bed, probably proceeding to CBJ, but I really didn't feel right being sexual with her. And just left. Not my day and it was my last day, I was due for my flight in 3 hours. But for the price I could afford to just walk out.

Girls on 600 UAH.

Only went here once, There was a lineup of 3 girls, quite young (about 20-24). Chose one girl, nice face, plump body but firm. Service wasn't enthusiastic and a little mechanical but CBJ was satisfying and her body was nice and soft to touch. Could be better but I was satisfied.

Girls on 700 uah.

I was expecting a lot of more girls. However there was only one. She had a classically sexy body, and decent face (probably early 30's or late 20's). After we both did the shower rituals, she came to the room took of her clothes and proceeded to rub her hands on my legs and move in a sexy manner to give me very enthusiastic CBJ, I asked her to stand up and worshiped her body for a while, Then back to bed and more touching hugging. She really provided an excellent service and acted like she really cared about my satisfaction. Her body had natural curves and was a classic turn on even with indoor lighting (probably 8/10) , even though she said she had a child. Her stomach didn't show much. I really enjoyed her warm personality, it felt like we were friends rather than client / host. No rip offs, no extras, very satisfying. Stayed a little more than 1 hour.

Indi Girl.

I found it unnecessary to communicate with independents, since its tedious with my lack of Russian / Ukrainian. But I thought I would give it a try. I must have phoned 4-5 numbers and one girl responded when I asked her to send me a text of her location usng my very limited Ukrainian. Independents don't use viber. Anyway somehow I had her address and threw it in google maps only to find she was way outside Kharkov. What the hey. I decided to go. Took me an hour to get there. Then she didn't respond to my texts. Suddenly she responded and gve me her apartment number. Went up, and there she was. Probably around 25 . And excellent body (better than her photos). Again we did the shower rituals and then we touched. She was tall and had a large proportionate ass. I think she knew her ass was gorgeous, so she bent over on her bed on all fours exposing a literally perfect asshole and one of the most delicious looking pussies I have seen. She genuinely wanted to please and touching her body was a real pleasure. Her CBJ was so uninhibited, she knew how to detect signs of extacy in me and before I knew it I had come. I came a second time, we talked. And I gave her some of my UK cigarettes. Really worth it for 600 uah (18).

All in all a good experience, Met a diverse range of women. And proved that salons arnt that bad and value for money. I have heard of scams on here, but fortunately I didn't end up a victim. And I guess salons are safer in that sense.

Kidzoid
03-02-19, 18:04
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone ever used this agency? Are they reputable?

www.macedonna.com

TinyHippo
03-05-19, 16:05
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone ever used this agency? Are they reputable?

www.macedonna.comFake. Save your money.

Michi T
03-05-19, 20:37
Fake. Save your money.Me from my experience would even say save your time and money by avoiding Kharkiv, there are nicer and more intersting cities in the country of the Ukraine, but each member with different taste, me for instance like special cities with big success because open minded girls, Kharkiv was not among them.

Kidzoid
03-05-19, 21:23
So what are good sites or independent girls? Anywhere in Ukraine works. I am interested in classic Eastern European, Slavic look. Tall, high cheekbones, model like appearance. Money is not an issue.


Me from my experience would even say save your time and money by avoiding Kharkiv, there are nicer and more intersting cities in the country of the Ukraine, but each member with different taste, me for instance like special cities with big success because open minded girls, Kharkiv was not among them.

DramaFree11
03-05-19, 22:27
So what are good sites or independent girls? Anywhere in Ukraine works. I am interested in classic Eastern European, Slavic look. Tall, high cheekbones, model like appearance. Money is not an issue.Wasting your time you will not find those type of girls in Ukraine anymore.

Russel4339
03-16-19, 16:33
Wasting your time you will not find those type of girls in Ukraine anymore.Kharkov is an okay city. You just need time. The beautiful women are still here. It is a more conservative city than, say, Kiev. Last week, I was showing pictures of the women that I have dated in Kharkov to a acquaintance in America. He did not believe it. (And these women were between 35 and 45 - the younger ladies are here too). Given the luxury of time, you can be very successful in Kharkov. Start ahead and contact the ladies for some time before you arrive. Get to know them. You will be well rewarded when you arrive.

Russel4339
03-16-19, 16:43
First part: so true, one needs time, not only in Kharkiv, but also in other parts of Ukraina.

Second part: where do you find such girls, how do you see that they are open for sponsoring?Sorry for the late reply. I do not visit here often. Mamba (http://polovinka.com.ua/) is a good place to find girls looking for sponsors in Kharkov. If you have an account, there is actually a search item "Looking for Sponsor". More girls simply list that they are looking for Sex and you can read between the lines. (for example. A 23 year old looking for men 18-60 is probably not looking for marriage). There are significantly more girls on Mamba in Kiev than Kharkov, but Kharkov has quite a few.

On thing to watch for is that some of these ads are posted by salons. I do not like when the girl that I met is actually from a salon. However, the independents are great as long as they do not think they are VIP and wanting $100 an hour or more.

Speaking Russian, even rudimentary, will help. But that is a difficult ask. Online translators work okay until you finally meet.

Derekk
04-29-19, 08:09
Kharkiv for the last 5 years at least was full of salons with girls.

All the famous ones closed down and they answer that they only have escorts now (Sumskaya, Pasiflor, flirt, lady-x, Kravtsova lane, Klochkivska, etc.). Then you write them on Viber and they send you pictures of girls with their faces blurred. I ordered an escort twice from two different places and both times, when she arrived it was not remotely the girl from the picture but an ugly old woman.

I refused and they wanted me to pay 250 uah for taxi (not an actual taxi but a thug in a normal car) both times. I refused and left.

I went to checkout a few new salons with very ugly girls and always a man or two at the reception (Bogdana Khmelnitskoho, Akademika Pavlova, Korolenko).

DramaFree11
04-29-19, 16:23
Kharkiv for the last 5 years at least was full of salons with girls.

All the famous ones closed down and they answer that they only have escorts now (Sumskaya, Pasiflor, flirt, lady-x, Kravtsova lane, Klochkivska, etc.). Then you write them on Viber and they send you pictures of girls with their faces blurred. I ordered an escort twice from two different places and both times, when she arrived it was not remotely the girl from the picture but an ugly old woman.

I refused and they wanted me to pay 250 uah for taxi (not an actual taxi but a thug in a normal car) both times. I refused and left.

I went to checkout a few new salons with very ugly girls and always a man or two at the reception (Bogdana Khmelnitskoho, Akademika Pavlova, Korolenko).Good report, guys need to pay attention to this. Ukraine has been on the decline for years, but some are still in complete denial.

Thank you for your honest report.

Sofiy
05-03-19, 15:09
Here's my report: 4 Weeks in Kharkov:

Tips:

You need to speak Russian, or take the time to use Viber and Google Translate. Do not expect them to speak English. Don't be rude. Don't overpay.

Massage "Happy Ending" Places:

In Ukraine you can search "Erotic Massage" in Google Maps and find 90% of the places. Simple. Beautiful girls, no sex, but happy ending.

Imperial. The English Menu was double the price for the same service. Either way, they wanted 1,000 UAH minimum for the basic with no touching. Rip off. Overpriced.

Ego Studio. Nice girls, real storefront, easy to find. 650 uah for an hour, nude, touching of all put privates. Good value but lights are too dim inside the room.

Others. I haven't been able to find any others yet that aren't come to your apartment. Let me know if you find one as I've only been going to Ego and would like variety.

Sex:

I found a bunch of escort sites by googling "Kharkiv Escort" many are outdated with posts from 2011. But there's one that's updated.

Salons and Outcalls. The first day of calling I was disappointed and looked into flying to Odessa. The first 5 numbers I called said no salon, only to your apartment. However, after the second day of trying and calling 10 places, half of them allow you to go to them.

450 UAH. Seedy house, hard to find. Had to use google translate and Viber, but eventually found it. 6 girls, most were old or fat. One was 35 and "OK" wouldn't go again.

1,000 UAH. City center apartment with 2 girls. Ad said 800. Attractive but nothing special. It was fine.

600 UAH. City center apartment with 3 girls. 1 fat, 1 okay. One was really pretty but was the opposite of GFE. Lights off, hurry up, get out.

1,000 UAH. A bit outside of center. Girl had her Instagram profile in her ad and answered the phone herself, wow. Amazing. But too thin, anorexic, no breasts, just laid there. Would love to find more independent girls but not her again.

700 UAH. City center. Nice apartment, 3 girls. 700 UAH. Girl was a git chubby but really nice. First time having passionate GFE and kissing. This is rare in Ukraine but possible. It's hard to find but sometimes you get lucky. In Odessa I found it after a month.

1000 UAH Plus. I've been wanting to try more expensive places such as 1,200-1,500 UAH places but haven't found any yet. I don't want to overpay just to overpay, but would be willing to spend more for quality and GFE if anyone has any leads.

In Call. I rented an apartment in the city center thinking I would have to have girls come over, but so far I've been able to go there, which I prefer. I also want to try taking a girl to a sauna but don't know how it works yet. Haven't tried the 1 strip club here either but have low expectations.

Sofiy
05-07-19, 20:05
Found another great one in the city center on the main street.

900 UAH ($34) for an hour.

2-3 girls working.

20-25 years old.

One was chubby, Two were gorgeous!

At the door they asked for 1,100, but I told them the website ad said 900 and she agreed.

No kissing, but nice experience. Ukraine has good places with nice girls still, just MUCH harder to find now a days. Odessa is easier.

Best to worst cities for mongering:

1. Odessa. Best overall.

2. Kharkiv - 2nd best and good value.

3. Kiev. Okay overall, hard to find in-call places. They come to you mostly. But great strip clubs and massage parlors (HJ only, no sex).

4. Lviv. Expensive and outcall only. Come to you only.

Riina
05-08-19, 14:19
Found another great one in the city center on the main street.

900 UAH ($34) for an hour.

2-3 girls working.

20-25 years old.

One was chubby, Two were gorgeous!

At the door they asked for 1,100, but I told them the website ad said 900 and she agreed.

No kissing, but nice experience. Ukraine has good places with nice girls still, just MUCH harder to find now a days. Odessa is easier..Can you share more detail? Sex, BJ with or without?

Riina
05-08-19, 14:36
Best to worst cities for mongering:

1. Odessa. Best overall.Disagree. Kiev is still the center of the world to most poor Ukrainians. The quality bad girls will always move first to a business city with well off men. Since I started reading this thread ten years ago, Odessa has been known as the place for hags. I've never been there, but it sounds to have a vibrant night life during summer. Maybe good for eye candy and just going out.

DramaFree11
05-08-19, 17:51
Disagree. Kiev is still the center of the world to most poor Ukrainians. The quality bad girls will always move first to a business city with well off men. Since I started reading this thread ten years ago, Odessa has been known as the place for hags. I've never been there, but it sounds to have a vibrant night life during summer. Maybe good for eye candy and just going out.100% correct, plus there are even more Scams in Odessa, then Kiev. Hard to believe, but true.

Also, correct about night life / Eye Candy. There is an active Nightlife in Odessa, unlike Kiev.

Nice report, good job.

Volare
05-09-19, 23:51
Kiev is still the center of the world to most of Ukrainians. The quality girls will always move first to a business city with well off men.

Sofiy
05-16-19, 15:21
GFE in Kharkiv = I have now found two GFE experiences. One at the 700 UAH apartment, and another at the 900 UAH apartment. But both are not GFE always. It is because the girls said they liked me and that I go to the gym. Also I went down at the why with one of the girls and rubbed the other's clit until she climaxed. Now they both like me enough to kiss and give the GFE. But it's not with everyone so your mileage may vary, but it exists.

Kharkiv Prices = To answer the question below. All prices are for sex and covered BJ. Standard price for sex + covered BJ is 600-1200 UAH ($23-$46).

Uncovered BJ = Most will say no to uncovered BJs, some may say yes for extra money, but most will not do it. Go to Germany for uncovered BJs where it is usually normal, even after the new law changes.

Kiev vs. Odessa = I've been to both. Kiev has better strip clubs and better happy ending massage parlors. But the reason why Odessa wins for sex is because they offer in call, which means you can go to their apartment and have a choice of girls. In Kiev, after being there for 1 month, I only found 1 place that has in call, and it was expensive and not great. In Odessa, most places allow in call which is better as you don't need to wait 1-2 hours for the girl to arrive, be disappointed when the girl isn't the one in the photo, pay their over priced taxi fees, clean your sheets, and other annoyances.

The reason why girls go to Odessa instead of Kiev is because they want sun and beach but cannot yet afford to go to Europe. They can tell their friends they are going to Odessa for summer vacation or to work at a shop but really be working at a salon or as an escort. No Ukrainians want to go to Kiev, they only go if they have to for work.

Scams in Odessa = Yes these things happen. And it has happened to people I have personally met, so scams are real. But using some common sense will keep you safe. Mainly, look at the tripadvisor reviews or even good map reviews of any restaurant / club / bar a girl brings you to or suggests to meet at as it's a common scam to over charge you. But in 2+ months of being there I have never had a single issue with escorts or strip clubs.

Personal Opinion = It is up to you which city you visit. They all have their pros and cons. None of them are easy to navigate if you are here for less than 1-2 weeks. Don't bother coming for a 3-4 day weekend. Instead go to the 20 euro sex street in Athens, or any of the sex clubs in Germany, or the working girl houses in Barcelona are easier. Ukraine has some beauties and some great prices, but unless you speak Russian or have a lot of time here (more than 2 weeks) it is not a good place to go mongering.

DramaFree11
05-17-19, 03:18
GFE in Kharkiv = I have now found two GFE experiences. One at the 700 UAH apartment, and another at the 900 UAH apartment. But both are not GFE always. It is because the girls said they liked me and that I go to the gym. Also I went down at the why with one of the girls and rubbed the other's clit until she climaxed. Now they both like me enough to kiss and give the GFE. But it's not with everyone so your mileage may vary, but it exists.

Kharkiv Prices = To answer the question below. All prices are for sex and covered BJ. Standard price for sex + covered BJ is 600-1200 UAH ($23-$46).

Uncovered BJ = Most will say no to uncovered BJs, some may say yes for extra money, but most will not do it. Go to Germany for uncovered BJs where it is usually normal, even after the new law changes.Great report and excellent advice.

PhotoSlider
05-17-19, 06:40
Personal Opinion = It is up to you which city you visit. They all have their pros and cons. None of them are easy to navigate if you are here for less than 1-2 weeks. Don't bother coming for a 3-4 day weekend. Instead go to the 20 euro sex street in Athens, or any of the sex clubs in Germany, or the working girl houses in Barcelona are easier. Ukraine has some beauties and some great prices, but unless you speak Russian or have a lot of time here (more than 2 weeks) it is not a good place to go mongering.This is truly the essence of Ukraine against other countries. Answers many questions.

IMHO the whole post could be submitted as a report of distinction. We didn't have one in a while.

Ricko85
06-10-21, 15:35
Hi guys,

The city of Kharkiv was once a paradise for those looking for cheap, young and beautiful hookers. Until 3-4 years ago, there were more than 20 brothels called "mini-houses" in the city. But unfortunately all good brothels were closed. Although there are still active saloons, I would say it is low quality. But for those who have some detailed information, it is still possible to find cheaper and nicer prostitutes in this city than in Kiev. Without further ado, I am starting to share my experiences.

In Ukraine, many student chicks sometimes engage in prostitution for additional income. The good thing about Kharkiv is that there are many students.

In recent years, I've been hanging out with girls I've met on mamba. Ru or tinder. There were many more girls on the mamba. Ru website before, but it still works. By the way, mamba. Ru is a dating website so there are a lot of girls looking for a normal date. Before offering sex with a girl for money, I advise you to review her profile.

In the summer of 2020 in Kharkiv, I corresponded and agreed with a girl on mamba. Ru. She agreed to come to my house for 2 hours for 1500 uah+ taxi fare. I was very lucky. Most girls accept this money for just 1 hour. She was a 19-year-old student. She had a fair skin, beautiful hips and firm breasts. .

A few days later I offered another 23-24 year old girl for 2 hours 1200 uah + taxi fare. She agreed. It was my lucky day again. A girl of this age normally earns around 1500 uah per hour. Her face wasn't very pretty but I can't say the same for the rest of her body.

HappyMimiore
06-11-21, 09:22
Hi guys,

The city of Kharkiv was once a paradise for those looking for cheap, young and beautiful hookers. Until 3-4 years ago, there were more than 20 brothels called "mini-houses" in the city. But unfortunately all good brothels were closed. Although there are still active saloons, I would say it is low quality. But for those who have some detailed information, it is still possible to find cheaper and nicer prostitutes in this city than in Kiev. Without further ado, I am starting to share my experiences.

In Ukraine, many student chicks sometimes engage in prostitution for additional income. The good thing about Kharkiv is that there are many students.

In recent years, I've been hanging out with girls I've met on mamba. Ru or tinder. There were many more girls on the mamba. Ru website before, but it still works. By the way, mamba. Ru .Hi Ricko,

Is so interesting info.

How frequent you can get girl from mamba in Kharkiv.

Like could you rely on mamba to changing semi pro girls everyday.

Is mamba in Kharkiv quite efficiency?

Or, only in some lucky time, only one week or one month get one girl.

TinyHippo
06-11-21, 15:01
Hi guys,

The city of Kharkiv was once a paradise for those looking for cheap, young and beautiful hookers. Until 3-4 years ago, there were more than 20 brothels called "mini-houses" in the city. But unfortunately all good brothels were closed. Although there are still active saloons, I would say it is low quality. But for those who have some detailed information, it is still possible to find cheaper and nicer prostitutes in this city than in Kiev. Without further ado, I am starting to share my experiences.

In Ukraine, many student chicks sometimes engage in prostitution for additional income. The good thing about Kharkiv is that there are many students.

In recent years, I've been hanging out with girls I've met on mamba. Ru or tinder. There were many more girls on the mamba. Ru website before, but it still works. By the way, mamba. Ru is a dating website so there are a lot of girls looking for a normal date. Before offering sex with a girl for money, I advise you to review her profile.

In the summer of 2020 in Kharkiv, I corresponded and agreed with a girl on mamba. Ru. She agreed to come to my house for 2 hours for 1500 uah+ taxi fare. I was very lucky. Most girls accept this money for just 1 hour. She was a 19-year-old student. She had a fair skin, beautiful hips and firm breasts. .

A few days later I offered another 23-24 year old girl for 2 hours 1200 uah + taxi fare. She agreed. It was my lucky day again. A girl of this age normally earns around 1500 uah per hour. Her face wasn't very pretty but I can't say the same for the rest of her body.I was just in Kharkiv last week for a few days and no luck on Mamba. I still think it is the best place to find university girls online though. Writing from my Instagram is way too risky for me. Things were slow in Kyiv, but it is starting to pick up on Mamba. I will say 85% of the girls speak zero to little English. You also do not need to sign up for VIP.

Ricko85
06-12-21, 10:18
Hi Ricko,

Is so interesting info.

How frequent you can get girl from mamba in Kharkiv.

Like could you rely on mamba to changing semi pro girls everyday.

Is mamba in Kharkiv quite efficiency?

Or, only in some lucky time, only one week or one month get one girl.Hi,

Actually I don't think it's a very good idea to rely on mamba in Kharkiv. Mamba still works, but now it's starting to die for Ukraine. It's being replaced by tinder. I was lucky last summer. But on tinder I still think you have a good chance. Also back room service and 2000 uah sex fee at moulin rouge club (strip club) in Kharkiv. In the summer of 2020. Maybe the price has increased a little now.

Ricko85
06-12-21, 10:39
I was just in Kharkiv last week for a few days and no luck on Mamba. I still think it is the best place to find university girls online though. Writing from my Instagram is way too risky for me. Things were slow in Kyiv, but it is starting to pick up on Mamba. I will say 85% of the girls speak zero to little English. You also do not need to sign up for VIP.Thanks for information. Unfortunately, the mamba isn't what it used to be. But you need a VIP membership to increase your chances. Some girls who receive too many messages require a VIP membership to send messages. Also, the rate of speaking English in Kharkiv is low. I always write in russian with the help of google translate. If I'm sure a girl is semi-pro, I'll get right to the point. My first sentence is often, "1087;1088;1080;1074;1077;1090;, я и1097;1091; р1072;1079;1074;1083;1077;1095;1077;1085;1080;1103; с ф1080;1085;1072;1085;1089;1086;1074;1086;1081; п1086;1084;1086;1097;1100;1102;. т1077;1073;1077; и1085;1090;1077;1088;1077;1089;1085;1086; so "Hi, I am looking for some fun with financial help. Are you interested?

Actually, Kharkivians understand basic English, but they hesitate to answer when you start speaking English directly. For this reason, you need to correspond with girls in Russian using google translate etc. Programs. I don't know any Russian and my English is basic level. However, I have met semi-pro girls many times.

Ricko85
09-25-21, 21:45
Hi Guys,

I would like to tell you about my trip to Kharkiv in August. Kharkiv is my most visited Ukrainian city. I'm a strip club addict and I love the cheap strip clubs of this city. Before I move on to this topic, I want to talk about hookers. Unfortunately, finding good prostitutes in Kharkiv is much harder now. The fact that it is summer and students go to their homes also has an effect. But I've been going to this city for years, also in the summer months, and I can say that I had my worst trip with prostitutes.

It's hard to find prostitutes online. Most prostitutes are old or ugly.

Finding semi-pro girls on mamba or tinder was also difficult compared to my previous travels. In short, there is a serious shortage of prostitutes in the city. Frankly, I miss the times of Kharkiv 3-4 years ago. Things are getting harder every day.

Fortunately, strip clubs are still of good quality and inexpensive.

Platinum Men's Club is my favourite. There were much less customers before. Its popularity has increased in recent years. There are about 10 strippers a night. The girls are young, beautiful and talented.

The entrance fee is 200 uah. No deposit fee. Lap dance 100 uah. Private dance 600 uah for 10 minutes. These prices are quite reasonable compared to Kiev. But the girls refuse the offer of sex.

Moulin Rouge Club is a strip club where sex services are available. My second favourite. Entrance is 200 uah. No deposit fee. Lap dance 100 uah. Private dance 500 uah. 1 hour sex service in the back room 2000 uah. The best place to find prostitutes in Kharkiv for now.

The address of this club has changed. New address: Moskovs'kyi Ave, 181.

There is so much to tell about Kharkiv. But the good old days are gone. In fact, it is possible to say this for the whole of Ukraine. As a low budget traveler Ukraine is now expensive for me. The problem is not just money. Girls are much more arrogant. Meeting new people is harder. But despite everything, I think that the strip clubs in Ukraine are the best in Europe in terms of service quality / price ratio.

Have fun everybody.

Ricko85
09-25-21, 21:46
I would like to tell you about my trip to Kharkiv in August. Kharkiv is my most visited Ukrainian city. I'm a strip club addict and I love the cheap strip clubs of this city. Before I move on to this topic, I want to talk about hookers. Unfortunately, finding good prostitutes in Kharkiv is much harder now. The fact that it is summer and students go to their homes also has an effect. But I've been going to this city for years, also in the summer months, and I can say that I had my worst trip with prostitutes.

It's hard to find prostitutes online. Most prostitutes are old or ugly.

Finding semi-pro girls on mamba or tinder was also difficult compared to my previous travels. In short, there is a serious shortage of prostitutes in the city. Frankly, I miss the times of Kharkiv 3-4 years ago. Things are getting harder every day.

Fortunately, strip clubs are still of good quality and inexpensive.

Platinum Men's Club is my favourite. There were much less customers before. Its popularity has increased in recent years. There are about 10 strippers a night. The girls are young, beautiful and talented.

The entrance fee is 200 uah. No deposit fee. Lap dance 100 uah. Private dance 600 uah for 10 minutes. These prices are quite reasonable compared to Kiev. But the girls refuse the offer of sex.

Moulin Rouge Club is a strip club where sex services are available. My second favourite. Entrance is 200 uah. No deposit fee. Lap dance 100 uah. Private dance 500 uah. 1 hour sex service in the back room 2000 uah. The best place to find prostitutes in Kharkiv for now.

The address of this club has changed. New address: Moskovs'kyi Ave, 181.

There is so much to tell about Kharkiv. But the good old days are gone. In fact, it is possible to say this for the whole of Ukraine. As a low budget traveler Ukraine is now expensive for me. The problem is not just money. Girls are much more arrogant. Meeting new people is harder. But despite everything, I think that the strip clubs in Ukraine are the best in Europe in terms of service quality / price ratio.

Have fun everybody.