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M P Lurker
08-31-07, 12:57
Maybe it was easier in those days. The price was a lot less and the fish bowl were filled with fairly good looking and young gals. A monger would try a few places. It was easy to find one you like. So you had 3-4 places and visited those 3-4. Occasionally you got a recommendation from a friend and tried something new. Massages in the old days were B60 per hour...and the tip was always negotiable usually around B100-B200. Those were the good days.
Yes Vinnie, brings back fond memories. There was little or no AIDs in those days and some people were worried about catching Herpes.
My first soapie was a very large Fish Bowl somewhere in Sukhumwit Soi 2,4, or 6 called something like "Golden Gate". It was a pity I had a Farang wife on the 1st trip (didn't know what I was missing). It must have disappeared as I couldn't find it years later on my 2nd trip.

A friend introduced me to the Thermae and its upstairs soapie, Soi Cowboy, the Kangaroo Bar (Patpong) etc. The Tuk Tuk drivers took me to places that I didn't want to go to, like "Verlanda" (I think), which was supposedly on the way to my Hotel.

Its now a complete mystery to me how I arrived at Chaopraya II for the first time, but it was heaven back then. I think a Taxi took me to J-One when I had asked for Chaopraya II. But I wasn't fooled and walked back to C II.

Montecristo
08-31-07, 13:55
Perhaps 8 years ago, on my last day in Bangkok, i tried do go Darling in Sukhumvit, but it was closed due to a national holiday.
At the door, a taxi driver told me he knew one that was opened, and after some second thoughts i went with him.

I just remember it was in an alley, i entered, there th papasan and a fishbowl, left normal girls and right some more expensive ones.

I payed 2500 for the whole thing, which seems reasonable to the the fact i brought a taxi driver with me.

When i left (past 10 pm), there were a lot of taximeters in the alley, but none of them wanted to take me using taximeter, they wanted to charge 125 baht, to the Soi Cowboy zone something at the time seemed expensive, i remember telling them the price should be 35-45 baht (perhaps what i payed in the firt initial trip). The taxidrivers even made some slight threats that it was night and if i wanted to leave the alley and walk the street until i reach a big avenue, that could be danger.

I have returned, to Bangkok since then, but i dont have the smallst idea what massage parlour could have been (in an alley, and the access to a big avenue is a long street), probably not too far from Soi Cowboy zone

I know its a strange puzzle but if this massage parlour still exists i would like to return there.

Thanks in advance

Monte Cristo

Vinny_Viagra
08-31-07, 14:08
My early days date back to 1970. There were tons of MPs. I agree the facilities were much less clean and less elaborate than today. The gal though were simpler less materialistic and more GFE.(mhop). My first massage was at Monalisa with, I can still remember her number, #42. Service only included hj in those days but it was all inclusive in the price. On the high end I would visit the Dusitani Hotel. They had four theme rooms lavishly decorated. It was about B200 per hour, expensice for the time. The gals were dressed in silk traditional clothing depending on the theme, thai , indian or whatever. The service was full service but not authorized by the management. The Choa Phya MP was one of the first huge places with many knock out gals. I revisited the Choa Phya a few years back and no upgrade of the facilities had been made in 30 years. Im not sure which is CP1 or CP2.

After reading some of the negativism in here I am happy to see that those of you who responded to my first comments are positive and up beat. Thats good. I forgot one thing the exchange rate was 20 bahts to 1 usd in those days. So until recently at least, those who live in the $$ world enjoy it now for half price....

I live in the states now and I can get great massages here and fs for $160 and sometimes less. There actually is on Thai gal I visit frequently here who does the infamous balls massage...chap ka sai. While at her shop I ask her to play up country music and its like the old days for me. I bring her "mexican" mangos now and then.

I am happy to hear though that several of you feel things are improving.
Regards and enjoy, VV


Maybe it was easier in those days. The price was a lot less and the fish bowl were filled with fairly good looking and young gals. A monger would try a few places. It was easy to find one you like. So you had 3-4 places and visited those 3-4. Occasionally you got a recommendation from a friend and tried something new. Massages in the old days were B60 per hour...and the tip was always negotiable usually around B100-B200. Those were the good days.

NicFrenchy
08-31-07, 16:05
I have returned, to Bangkok since then, but i dont have the smallst idea what massage parlour could have been (in an alley, and the access to a big avenue is a long street), probably not too far from Soi Cowboy zone

I know its a strange puzzle but if this massage parlour still exists i would like to return there.

Thanks in advance

Monte CristoMaybe could be Cupidy? or Plaza Entertainment Building upstairs?

Cupidy's back entrance is a Small dark alley (the one coming from the Prince Hotel)

Bab Com
09-01-07, 00:37
Whitch are the biggest MP in Bk?

(I mean the biggest fishbowl)?

Thanks

Horntoad
09-01-07, 07:25
Whitch are the biggest MP in Bk?

(I mean the biggest fishbowl)?

Thanks

I think as far as sheer volume of girls, I think Nataree has the most. Next would be Poseidon. This is not counting the sideliners at Nataree and the 3rd floor at Poseidon.

AsiaTraveler2
09-01-07, 09:45
I went into Lavana Spa on a whim and need of a good massage. Expected it to be legit and it was, but would not have been disappointed if extras were available. The woman was older and big, so at that point, all I wanted was a good strong massage and she did a good job. Not sensual in any way shape or form. Very nice facility, though, and a couple of good dining options on that Soi (C&C and Crepes & Co.).

I believe it was 700 baht for the oil massage.

AT2

NicFrenchy
09-01-07, 16:49
Whitch are the biggest MP in Bk?

(I mean the biggest fishbowl)?

ThanksBiggest Fishbowl in terms of what? Space or Girls?

Mcavity
09-01-07, 17:15
[quote=mick licker]yes vinnie, brings back fond memories. there was little or no aids in those days and some people were worried about catching herpes.
my first soapie was a very large fish bowl somewhere in sukhumwit soi 2,4, or 6 called something like "golden gate". it was a pity i had a farang wife on the 1st trip (didn't know what i was missing). it must have disappeared as i couldn't find it years later on my 2nd trip.

quote]

i certainly remember the gold gate. first soapy experience in bkk, 1987. had 4 hrs in transit and wasn't going to waste it. rushed through immigration, found a taxi driver lurking outside - "take me to a massage parlour" he didn't want to talk prices - "up to you". then he picked up a friend as well and i wondered if i was heading for trouble. anyway after a quick drive into town - he drove, as i recall, through a gate into the golden gate forecourt. still didn't want to talk money and said he would wait for me. the golden gate was a brilliant experience. can't remember the exact price but the equivalent of about $40-$50 i think. explained to the girl i picked from the bowl i didn't have lot of time, a sweet thing - gave of her all - wouldn't let me go until i had come twice. outside again where the driver was still waiting, back to the airport at top speed. gave the driver 200 baht and dashed to the boarding gate for my flight. yes i know - i broke all the commonsense rules but i had an evening i can still remember vividly 20 years on. was back in bkk in '93. looked up golden gate in the phone book and still in existence but no mongering opportunities on that trip and the next time in bkk in 2001 no trace of it. still don't know where it was exactly. happy memories!

El Greco
09-01-07, 23:03
My first experiences were, back at 1972, at the far end of Surawong and the china town area.

Then I saw a report on a "Private" magazin, the Sweden porno one, about Chaopya II claiming about 350 girls in the fish bowl. So I took a two day flight from Singapore in order to check it out. I was a regular there for many years.

I also remember Chavala close by, #123 was my choice there, excellent BBBJ, Thaermae on SUK near soi 11 and another one Four Roses or something like that.

Good old times.Only tuk tuks no taxis at the begining.

I was visiting BKK twice a month for four days each time for about 15 years.

Then came the elevated highways, train etc. It has been a great change since then.

Daring Mood
09-02-07, 01:27
Back in Bangkok next Tuesday, and only have a day for fun. have yet to find a place that gives a decent haircut, manicure, pedicure, followed by massage and full service. Any thoughts?

TIA
Daring Mood

Tony Soprano 1
09-02-07, 02:57
Mcavity,
Liked your post. To have an experience to remember after X amount of years is priceless. It seems like the planets were in perfect alignment for you that evening. Great taxi driver, great girl, great time. Lucky you.
Thanks for sharing.

Cheers to all!
Tony

NicFrenchy
09-02-07, 05:11
have yet to find a place that gives a decent haircut, manicure, pedicure, followed by massage and full service. Any thoughts?I would advise you against it.

Go to a professional Barber Shop and get your Haircut, Manicure, Pedicure. Then, move on to a Massage Place.

if you still want to go through with your idea, then ask yourself what in the above is of the most importance to you: Haircut / manicure / pedicure or Massage / Fullservice?

if it is the later, then go to Angels, get massaged, fuck the girl and ask her to cut your hair (please take pictures so we can see the outcome).
If on the other hand you prefer the Haircut to be done properly, then go to Soi 11/1 (but then the massage and FS won't be good).

You know, I still need to find a good place that would combine good Massage + FS properly, and it's rare. So if you add Haircut and stuff. Almost impossible to find.

AsiaTraveler2
09-02-07, 22:32
Back in Bangkok next Tuesday, and only have a day for fun. have yet to find a place that gives a decent haircut, manicure, pedicure, followed by massage and full service. Any thoughts?

TIA
Daring Mood

Daring,

Any reason why you need all of them in one place? Convenience? I think the odds of finding a place that does all well, is almost zero. Why not get a haircut, manicure and pedicure at one place and then get a great massage from a great massage joint and finish it off with a hot looking girl in anyone of several places. I had a shampoo from a cutie at friends and unfortunately, the same girls that do the cuts, manicures, massages are all specifically assigned based on their "training".

You probably already thought of this and are hoping for Nirvana, but I don't think it exists right now.

AT2

AsiaTraveler2
09-02-07, 22:36
I think as far as sheer volume of girls, I think Nataree has the most. Next would be Poseidon. This is not counting the sideliners at Nataree and the 3rd floor at Poseidon.

The thing I like about Nataree is it's variety. The Utopia's and Poseidon's of the Soapy World, clearly are targeted at Asian tastes (fair skinned beauties). At Nataree, while they still appear to cater to Asians, also have some Isaan beauties. One in particular just caught my eye, and I could not stop looking at her. Unfortunately, I did not get a good vibe and took option number two and it worked out great for me.

I may need to go back one day, to see what option 1 is like. Nataree has a number of girls (at least 50+) available, but for the models I prefer Poseidon and Utopia. Nataree has a fair number of 7's and I would recommend the place. With prices starting at 2,000 baht, it's good value there.

AT2

Dan7373
09-03-07, 07:51
Something I don't see much discussed in this forum is how well do the ladies at various massage places take reverse massage from their guys. And I don't mean haphazard pawing while she massages you. What I mean is a competent, methodical, well-lubricated handjob at the Y on the lady that makes her have a happy ending.

This is similar to a guy persistently dining at the Y on the lady until she spasms in his arms. The only difference is that he massages her Y with his well-lubricated hand and not with his tongue.

Perhaps it's a fetish of mine not shared by many. But bringing the lady to orgasm with my hand looks a lot safer to me in terms of possible STD's than doing unprotected oral on her. And it seems to me that even some girls who don't let guys do unprotected oral on them should be willing to let guys perform this safer massage at the Y.

But from my experience I found that a guy massaging the lady at her Y until she orgasms is so unusual that many ladies are not familiar with it. And sometimes they have difficulty understanding why a guy would want to massage her like that.

Would be nice to know which girls are familiar with and willing to have this kind of action. Any information on where I can find these girls I would appreciate.

I suppose I could ask the mamasan or papasan at the massage parlour about which girls are willing to do this kind of sex action. But trying to explain to them with hand gestures something they are not familiar with is kind of embarassing. They probably wouldn't know. And I could end up in the middle of a very merry scene with the papasan trying to explain to all the girls what it is that I want.

NicFrenchy
09-03-07, 16:41
But from my experience I found that a guy massaging the lady at her Y until she orgasms is so unusual that many ladies are not familiar with it. And sometimes they have difficulty understanding why a guy would want to massage her like that.Not very sure where your experience comes from, P4P or regular, but to me, this is just a part of regular Foreplay.

I am sure a lot of Older guys here (or shall I say More experienced) also do it.

AsiaTraveler2
09-03-07, 18:23
Something I don't see much discussed in this forum is how well do the ladies at various massage places take reverse massage from their guys. And I don't mean haphazard pawing while she massages you. What I mean is a competent, methodical, well-lubricated handjob at the Y on the lady that makes her have a happy ending.

This is similar to a guy persistently dining at the Y on the lady until she spasms in his arms. The only difference is that he massages her Y with his well-lubricated hand and not with his tongue.

Perhaps it's a fetish of mine not shared by many. But bringing the lady to orgasm with my hand looks a lot safer to me in terms of possible STD's than doing unprotected oral on her. And it seems to me that even some girls who don't let guys do unprotected oral on them should be willing to let guys perform this safer massage at the Y.

But from my experience I found that a guy massaging the lady at her Y until she orgasms is so unusual that many ladies are not familiar with it. And sometimes they have difficulty understanding why a guy would want to massage her like that.

Would be nice to know which girls are familiar with and willing to have this kind of action. Any information on where I can find these girls I would appreciate.

I suppose I could ask the mamasan or papasan at the massage parlour about which girls are willing to do this kind of sex action. But trying to explain to them with hand gestures something they are not familiar with is kind of embarassing. They probably wouldn't know. And I could end up in the middle of a very merry scene with the papasan trying to explain to all the girls what it is that I want.

I would suggest a Soapie instead of an oil massage joint. I would not suggest oil as the lubricant and the Soapie girls have a full assortment of goodies (K-Y or something similar) to fit the situation. On top of that, you have a better environment (bed as opposed to massage table), in a nice spacious room. They almost never turn down oral and can't see them objecting to you masturbating them. I'm familiar with what you are talking about .. the infamous Five Point Palm exploding clit technique! Sorry, couldn't resist.

Good luck!
AT2

Vinny_Viagra
09-04-07, 14:30
In 8 years living in thailand and in later years revisiting the place, I never had a problem with taxi drivers. I would dismiss some of them if I didnt like thier price or their taxi was a wreck. This was in the days on no meter use even though there was a meter in the car. My last few visits all the taxis were airconditioned and all the meters worked. The metered charge is so cheap. I think sometime we tend to worry too much about the cost. What does a few baht matter. Hell, even in New York City where the taxis are not cheap I always leave the change or ad a dollar or two as a good will gesture. In Thailand I do the same. A little good will goes a long way. I have found most taxi guys in Thai to be fairly good sorts. I do speak some thai. These guys are just trying to make a living. If you treat them like shit with distrust and the like then you will get the same in return.

If you feel you are being taken on a longer ride or off the path you think is the most direct route just get out. Say stop stop ...Utt Utt. and get out and hail another. So you waste a few baht. How much do you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) away in the massage parlors?? Enjoy

Animby
09-04-07, 15:39
Would be nice to know which girls are familiar with and willing to have this kind of actionHas a lady (P4P type) ever turned you down when you tried to do this? Maybe in a bj bar or in some other situation where she;s in a hurry to get you off so she can troll for the next lucky fella.

If you've got her for a couple of hours or more so there's no hurry, no reason for her to rush, I can't imagine being refused.

Caveat: Go early, or build up your forearms - if you're her fifth or sixth encounter of the evening, she might be a little difficult to actually arouse.

NicFrenchy
09-04-07, 16:15
Vinny,

And your post is in the Massage Parlors section because?

Hunter136
09-04-07, 19:28
In 8 years living in thailand and in later years revisiting the place, I never had a problem with taxi drivers. I would dismiss some of them if I didnt like thier price or their taxi was a wreck. This was in the days on no meter use even though there was a meter in the car. My last few visits all the taxis were airconditioned and all the meters worked. The metered charge is so cheap. I think sometime we tend to worry too much about the cost. What does a few baht matter. Hell, even in New York City where the taxis are not cheap I always leave the change or ad a dollar or two as a good will gesture. In Thailand I do the same. A little good will goes a long way. I have found most taxi guys in Thai to be fairly good sorts. I do speak some thai. These guys are just trying to make a living. If you treat them like shit with distrust and the like then you will get the same in return.

If you feel you are being taken on a longer ride or off the path you think is the most direct route just get out. Say stop stop ...Utt Utt. and get out and hail another. So you waste a few baht. How much do you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) away in the massage parlors?? EnjoyI totally agree.

Vinny_Viagra
09-04-07, 20:18
nicefrenchy

perhaps my post would've made more sense to you if i had quoted mcavity's #2686 which i include for you here...
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yes vinnie, brings back fond memories. there was little or no aids in those days and some people were worried about catching herpes.
my first soapie was a very large fish bowl somewhere in sukhumwit soi 2,4, or 6 called something like "golden gate". it was a pity i had a farang wife on the 1st trip (didn't know what i was missing). it must have disappeared as i couldn't find it years later on my 2nd trip.

quote]

i certainly remember the gold gate. first soapy experience in bkk, 1987. had 4 hrs in transit and wasn't going to waste it. rushed through immigration, found a taxi driver lurking outside - "take me to a massage parlour" he didn't want to talk prices - "up to you". then he picked up a friend as well and i wondered if i was heading for trouble. anyway after a quick drive into town - he drove, as i recall, through a gate into the golden gate forecourt. still didn't want to talk money and said he would wait for me. the golden gate was a brilliant experience. can't remember the exact price but the equivalent of about $40-$50 i think. explained to the girl i picked from the bowl i didn't have lot of time, a sweet thing - gave of her all - wouldn't let me go until i had come twice. outside again where the driver was still waiting, back to the airport at top speed. gave the driver 200 baht and dashed to the boarding gate for my flight. yes i know - i broke all the commonsense rules but i had an evening i can still remember vividly 20 years on. was back in bkk in '93. looked up golden gate in the phone book and still in existence but no mongering opportunities on that trip and the next time in bkk in 2001 no trace of it. still don't know where it was exactly. happy memories!
[quote=nicfrenchy]vinny,

and your post is in the massage parlors section because?

Fast Eddie 48
09-04-07, 22:20
My first experiences were, back at 1972, at the far end of Surawong and the china town area.

Then I saw a report on a "Private" magazin, the Sweden porno one, about Chaopya II claiming about 350 girls in the fish bowl. So I took a two day flight from Singapore in order to check it out. I was a regular there for many years.

I also remember Chavala close by, #123 was my choice there, excellent BBBJ, Thaermae on SUK near soi 11 and another one Four Roses or something like that.

Good old times.Only tuk tuks no taxis at the begining.

I was visiting BKK twice a month for four days each time for about 15 years.

Then came the elevated highways, train etc. It has been a great change since then.To El Greco,

May be 10 year ago old chaopya will have 50 girl in the fish bowl on a saturday night now you lucky if they have 30 girl on any given night and the quality is shit , The thai baht is strong dollar is weak may be we need another asian money crisis to have cheap p4p in thailand again.

Fast eddie 48

Dan7373
09-05-07, 01:42
Has a lady (P4P type) ever turned you down when you tried to do this? ....
Caveat: Go early, or build up your forearms - if you're her fifth or sixth encounter of the evening, she might be a little difficult to actually arouse.It's true. The ladies who didn't let me masturbate them at all were either from a bar or from a Go-Go place.

I haven't had much problem with starting to masturbate massage ladies. But finishing has been a problem.

I like to skip all the ceremonies and start playing with the lady's Y as soon as she takes her panties off. No need for talk. I assume it's ok. And I leave it up to her to say 'no' if she doesn't like it. And I'm not shy about masturbating her whenever I get the opportunity, even while she is massaging me.

But difficulty often comes around when I bring the lady close to orgasm. And she starts urging me to get on top of her and ride. Which kind of ruins the moment for me. Because I want to finish her off with my hand first. And then do as she says.

Of course, not every lady is like this.

One lady I've been with didn't say anything, let me masturbate her until she lost control, began to thrust her hips up and down against my slippery hand, and had one good female orgasm. I gave her two or three minutes to rest. And then I gently made her accept my well-lubricated fingers on her still erect clit again. She was a little sensitive to my touch. And I had to be gentle at first. But soon her slight discomfort turned into great pleasure. And it took her a lot less time to orgasm the second time.

I really enjoyed riding her afterwards. And I came back to her the next day. Did the same. But when I pulled out of her in doggy and savoured the last dregs of my pleasure by rubbing my slippery rubber on the outside of her wide open pinky (making good contact with her erect clit by the way). She turned around and almost angrily said "No. Not need for me. "

I only needed a few more seconds to feel entirely finished with her. But I had to stop right there and then. And it was a big turn off for me. I was polite with her and everything. And she invited me to come back. But come back I did not.

Thanks for the advice about building up my forearms, should I come late for massage. But I doubt it will be necessary. Women are known for being multi-orgasmic. And when you have the right technique (lots of lubrication, concentrate on her clit, gently but not too gently). Then working the woman to orgasm is not that difficult. I actually like to make my woman orgasm twice in rapid succession, if she lets me. The trick is to let the lady recover a couple of minutes after her first orgasm. And then gently start massaging her clit again before it looses erection. As long as her clit is still erect, her slight discomfort at first will quickly turn into pleasure.

If you wait too long. And her clit looses erection. Then indeed you'll have to work long and hard for her second orgasm.

I suppose that's how it works for guys too. A competent massage lady, who wants to make a guy cum twice, usually makes sure her guy doesn't loose his erection after the first time.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

AsiaTraveler2
09-05-07, 06:38
I really enjoyed riding her afterwards. And I came back to her the next day. Did the same. But when I pulled out of her in doggy and savoured the last dregs of my pleasure by rubbing my slippery rubber on the outside of her wide open pinky (making good contact with her erect clit by the way). She turned around and almost angrily said "No. Not need for me. "



Dan,

My guess is that the girls get a lot of customers trying and/or bringing them to orgasm. They do this day after day and several times a day. I can see some of them wanting to pass on an orgasm. Nothing new for them, tires them out, makes a long day longer, and if they are in a relationship .. takes away from the main event when they see their significant other. If I had their job, my dick would be worn out, so I can imagine the wear and tear their clits get.

Having said that, I have not found many girls turn it down, except for the high priced Nana mercenaries looking to get back for another customer.

AT2

Jungle Bluebird
09-05-07, 11:04
Dan

Interesting post and certainly wishful thinking. But yes, I agree, we all want to feel like true studs making little girls succumb to our charm and endurance. Truth be told, somewhat I feel it's only fair to have a fake (or real) orgasms included in the price.

Oh and sorry for all guys our there who always claim that girls are wet. KY gel is colorless and tastes neutral. I assume it’s applied while girls getting their little pink plastic baskets (in soapies and massage). During a recent encounter I asked the girl for KY gel (a big plus to avoid condom rupture). To my surprise she already covered the condom with ample gel, without me even noticing.

The usual encounter starts with 'oh so big' and yes, that pleases me. I knew one girl from Darling who encouraged me every time by saying 'great your here, now you can do me real good, as other guys always come so quick..'. Now that was encouragement. Only to ask me to unload a little quicker while I was performing just so well (or so I thought).

I figure a true P4P pro is always wet, always horny, always comes and always smiles.

JB




It's true. The ladies who didn't let me masturbate them at all were either from a bar or from a Go-Go place.

I haven't had much problem with starting to masturbate massage ladies. But finishing has been a problem.

I like to skip all the ceremonies and start playing with the lady's Y as soon as she takes her panties off. No need for talk. I assume it's ok. And I leave it up to her to say 'no' if she doesn't like it. And I'm not shy about masturbating her whenever I get the opportunity, even while she is massaging me.

But difficulty often comes around when I bring the lady close to orgasm. And she starts urging me to get on top of her and ride. Which kind of ruins the moment for me. Because I want to finish her off with my hand first. And then do as she says.

Of course, not every lady is like this.

One lady I've been with didn't say anything, let me masturbate her until she lost control, began to thrust her hips up and down against my slippery hand, and had one good female orgasm. I gave her two or three minutes to rest. And then I gently made her accept my well-lubricated fingers on her still erect clit again. She was a little sensitive to my touch. And I had to be gentle at first. But soon her slight discomfort turned into great pleasure. And it took her a lot less time to orgasm the second time.

I really enjoyed riding her afterwards. And I came back to her the next day. Did the same. But when I pulled out of her in doggy and savoured the last dregs of my pleasure by rubbing my slippery rubber on the outside of her wide open pinky (making good contact with her erect clit by the way). She turned around and almost angrily said "No. Not need for me. "

I only needed a few more seconds to feel entirely finished with her. But I had to stop right there and then. And it was a big turn off for me. I was polite with her and everything. And she invited me to come back. But come back I did not.

Thanks for the advice about building up my forearms, should I come late for massage. But I doubt it will be necessary. Women are known for being multi-orgasmic. And when you have the right technique (lots of lubrication, concentrate on her clit, gently but not too gently). Then working the woman to orgasm is not that difficult. I actually like to make my woman orgasm twice in rapid succession, if she lets me. The trick is to let the lady recover a couple of minutes after her first orgasm. And then gently start massaging her clit again before it looses erection. As long as her clit is still erect, her slight discomfort at first will quickly turn into pleasure.

If you wait too long. And her clit looses erection. Then indeed you'll have to work long and hard for her second orgasm.

I suppose that's how it works for guys too. A competent massage lady, who wants to make a guy cum twice, usually makes sure her guy doesn't loose his erection after the first time.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Tulip777
09-05-07, 11:37
it's true. the ladies who didn't let me masturbate them at all were either from a bar or from a go-go place.

i haven't had much problem with starting to masturbate massage ladies. but finishing has been a problem.

i like to skip all the ceremonies and start playing with the lady's y as soon as she takes her panties off. no need for talk. i assume it's ok. and i leave it up to her to say 'no' if she doesn't like it. and i'm not shy about masturbating her whenever i get the opportunity, even while she is massaging me.

but difficulty often comes around when i bring the lady close to orgasm. and she starts urging me to get on top of her and ride. which kind of ruins the moment for me. because i want to finish her off with my hand first. and then do as she says.

of course, not every lady is like this.

one lady i've been with didn't say anything, let me masturbate her until she lost control, began to thrust her hips up and down against my slippery hand, and had one good female orgasm. i gave her two or three minutes to rest. and then i gently made her accept my well-lubricated fingers on her still erect clit again. she was a little sensitive to my touch. and i had to be gentle at first. but soon her slight discomfort turned into great pleasure. and it took her a lot less time to orgasm the second time.

i really enjoyed riding her afterwards. and i came back to her the next day. did the same. but when i pulled out of her in doggy and savoured the last dregs of my pleasure by rubbing my slippery rubber on the outside of her wide open pinky (making good contact with her erect clit by the way). she turned around and almost angrily said "no. not need for me. "

i only needed a few more seconds to feel entirely finished with her. but i had to stop right there and then. and it was a big turn off for me. i was polite with her and everything. and she invited me to come back. but come back i did not.

thanks for the advice about building up my forearms, should i come late for massage. but i doubt it will be necessary. women are known for being multi-orgasmic. and when you have the right technique (lots of lubrication, concentrate on her clit, gently but not too gently). then working the woman to orgasm is not that difficult. i actually like to make my woman orgasm twice in rapid succession, if she lets me. the trick is to let the lady recover a couple of minutes after her first orgasm. and then gently start massaging her clit again before it looses erection. as long as her clit is still erect, her slight discomfort at first will quickly turn into pleasure.

if you wait too long. and her clit looses erection. then indeed you'll have to work long and hard for her second orgasm.

i suppose that's how it works for guys too. a competent massage lady, who wants to make a guy cum twice, usually makes sure her guy doesn't loose his erection after the first time.

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masturbating the massage lady? on another recommendation from this forum went to akane 3 days ago. i don't know what "fashion massage" is but whatever i got wasn't it. all she wanted to do was to have me masturbate her while she was masturbating me. liked my finger in her ass. gave me a cbj. looked really nice in a line up. back in the room her tits all dried up, scar on her belly and a tatoo. she did everything she could to avoid giving me the routine i paid for. i received a better class treatment in [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), if you can believe it. went to gullivers on sunday to watch chelsea getting hammered and met a beautiful girl watching the game. true gfe all the way. i even took her to see siam niramit. let her go today. eden a couple of days ago was ok. will probably find me a freelancer for tonight and check out tulip tomorrow. the service from nep girls is hitting rock bottom. got a massage from a regular place on suk and a massage lady (probably in her late 40's or early 50's) started touching her breasts using my hand and asked for a good tip. she wanted to give me a special massage in my hotel. i think there are plenty of amateurs to go around to keep getting suckered by hardcore bitches from the usual suspect places. debating whether to go to pattaya for a few days.

Dan7373
09-05-07, 16:35
Dan,

Interesting post and certainly wishful thinking. But yes, I agree, we all want to feel like true studs making little girls succumb to our charm and endurance. Truth be told, somewhat I feel it's only fair to have a fake (or real) orgasms included in the price.
....
I figure a true P4P pro is always wet, always horny, always comes and always smiles.
JBIt's true. When the guy relies on his charm and endurance. Then the lady's orgasm (if any) is most likely fake.

That's why I like to go after the lady's pussy, find her clitoris, make her clit bulge with erection, and masturbate her there until I'm satisfied that she has had a real orgasm.

Many women (but not all) typically loose some control over their hips and start thrusting a little (as if fucking someone) just before and during their orgasm. And after the woman has had a real orgasm. Her clitoris goes into a brief refractory period (true for all women) during which continued masturbation of her clitoris becomes uncomfortable for her.

These are unmistakable signs that the lady has had a real orgasm. And these are the signs I look for, when I'm masturbating my lady.

Women are verbal. And when they fake an orgasm. They usually do it by moaning and complementing the guy on how good he is. When a lady starts doing this with me. Then I know she is faking. And I take her vocalizations as an encouragement to redouble my efforts and make her have a real orgasm.

But the lady's first orgasm is not what really gets me off. Her second orgasm does it for me. It's usually a big surprise for the lady when I start massaging her clit a minute or two after she has had an orgasm. If her orgasm was real, then her clit at this stage is still in the refractory period. And any masturbation there feels a little uncomfortable for her. But her anxious look lasts only a few seconds. The masturbation of her clitoris quickly becomes pleasurable for her. And it's a pleasure for me to see her start thrusting her hips again. The second orgasm usually comes quickly for her.

If you read medical literature about the woman's clitoris. Then you'll find out that the woman's clitoris is very similar to the man's penis in terms of pleasure and orgasm for the woman. And when a woman for some reason happens to have too much testosterone-like hormones in her blood. Then over time her clitoris enlarges, elongates and begins to look like a man's cock. This is what happened to some East German female athletes who were taking steroids to improve their performance.

When you masturbate the woman's clitoris. Then her orgasmic experience is very similar to that of a man. And her clitoris is sensitive to the touch after an orgasm the same way a man's cock is after a male orgasm.

Basically, the woman's clit is a very small female cock. And you have to adapt your technique to her much smaller size. But other than that, it is safe to say that masturbating the woman's clitoris is much like masturbating your own cock.

When an attractive woman routinely has her way with many men and makes them orgasm all over the place. But she fakes her own orgasms and doesn't get off that much. Then she is a woman I'the like to give some of her own medicine. To debauch the professional debaucheress so much that she feels like an amateur who is about to fall in love with the guy is the pleasure in it for me.

The Lankan Man
09-05-07, 17:44
Hi there,

Can someone explain whats Sopie and whats Oily. What is it called where a "Body II Body" can be obtained with some 'washing together'?

I need a good BodyIIBody and some fondling, licking and kissing. Thats it, maybe a happy ending (HJ) to finsh things. Since I'm on a very short stay in Bangkok.

How much should I spend and where? Any recommendations?

Dan7373
09-05-07, 19:57
.... I think there are plenty of amateurs to go around to keep getting suckered by hardcore bitches from the usual suspect places. Debating whether to go to Pattaya for a few days.I don't think I can agree with your attitude towards these women. I've spent a lot of time in places where such women are not available. And knowing how bad it can be to go without such women, I'm greateful for their services even when things don't go smoothly with them.

Even if it's only for a short time. I try to treat the lady I'm with as though she is my wife. Because in my mind, she is my wife for the time I am with her. She lets me get intimate with her as though I'm her husband. And I bring home the bacon for her as though she is my wife. The only real difference between this relationship and marriage is the time it lasts.

And when things don't work out well with my massage lady. Then I remember that marriages often don't work out well either. And I'm greateful that my obligation and comittment to this lady is so easy to let go. A small alimony is all she gets from me. And she can't go to court and make me pay lots of money to her for many years, while at the same time sleeping with other men and not letting me ride her ever again.

That's certainly a lot to be thankful about.

From my experience I've found that being with any lady for the first time is often a trying experience for me. But when I find a lady I really like and keep going back to her every day. Then over time my sex with her gets better. Because we both get comfortable with each other. And she learns to accomodate me the way I like.

I like to be with a lady who already knows and accepts that as soon as she takes her panties off, I'll start masturbating her. And as soon as she is good and ready, I'll ride her long and hard. No questions asked. No need for talk. Her understanding and acceptance of my sex on her lets me enjoy the sex more.

Changing ladies all the time may feel good in terms of novelty. But in terms of sex it often sucks.

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AsiaTraveler2
09-06-07, 11:44
Hi there,

Can someone explain whats Sopie and whats Oily. What is it called where a "Body II Body" can be obtained with some 'washing together'?

I need a good BodyIIBody and some fondling, licking and kissing. Thats it, maybe a happy ending (HJ) to finsh things. Since I'm on a very short stay in Bangkok.

How much should I spend and where? Any recommendations?

Lankan,

The best example of a Soapie, are the large massage parlors on Ratchadapisek, which have the classic fishbowl set up. The girls are seated on a staging area, rows upon rows, for your viewing pleasure and selection. They are seated behind a large glass window, hence the term "fishbowl". They also have girls seated elsewhere and also in a bar area ("Models sections"). There are Soapies all over BKK, so they are not limited to Ratchadapisek.

The Soapie, I suspect, is called a Soapie because of the bath that they give you before the FS finish. They Soap you up, wash all the key areas, some girls do the body to body slide, some will do the titty fuck thing, etc. They also do a neat trick, using the buoyancy of the water, to slide their legs under your butt. It props up your groin area to the surface of the filled tub and of course Mr.Happy is now ready for his wash. Fun stuff. They dry you off and off to the bed for a BJ and FS finish. Examples would be places like Poseidon, Ceasars, Emmanuelle, Utopia, etc.

The oily massage, is what it sounds like. If you have had a Swedish massage, then you know what it's like. The difference is that it gets more sensual, more touching in key places and some places will have HJ, BJ or FS options to finish. Angels, Thonglor, etc. are examples of this type of place. There are other variations on a theme, such as Akane and Sazanka. They are not oily's, but use the same basic concept. Massage with HJ or BJ/FS finishes. Not all places advertising "oil massages" offer extra's. This is a generalization, but if the word "Spa" is in the name, it's often more legit. The other give away, is if you can select a girl from a lineup or picture book. If this is the procedure, chances are, you will get extra's if you want it.

Read through the massage thread. There are so many places and they all have their good points. Knowing several of them, will give you more options as you walk around town. Being new, you may not always find the place you are looking for, but may accidentally pass by a highly recommended place. Knowledge is golden in BKK.

Good luck!
AT2

Jungle Bluebird
09-06-07, 12:50
Dan, wow. I am impressed :-)

I just hope you not play all your magic when going with P4P pros in Bangkok. Would make me feel very inadequate.

Remember, you are the one who pays for service. You may want to calm your ambitions.

JB



It's true. When the guy relies on his charm and endurance. Then the lady's orgasm (if any) is most likely fake.

That's why I like to go after the lady's pussy, find her clitoris, make her clit bulge with erection, and masturbate her there until I'm satisfied that she has had a real orgasm.

Many women (but not all) typically loose some control over their hips and start thrusting a little (as if fucking someone) just before and during their orgasm. And after the woman has had a real orgasm. Her clitoris goes into a brief refractory period (true for all women) during which continued masturbation of her clitoris becomes uncomfortable for her.

These are unmistakable signs that the lady has had a real orgasm. And these are the signs I look for, when I'm masturbating my lady.

Women are verbal. And when they fake an orgasm. They usually do it by moaning and complementing the guy on how good he is. When a lady starts doing this with me. Then I know she is faking. And I take her vocalizations as an encouragement to redouble my efforts and make her have a real orgasm.

But the lady's first orgasm is not what really gets me off. Her second orgasm does it for me. It's usually a big surprise for the lady when I start massaging her clit a minute or two after she has had an orgasm. If her orgasm was real, then her clit at this stage is still in the refractory period. And any masturbation there feels a little uncomfortable for her. But her anxious look lasts only a few seconds. The masturbation of her clitoris quickly becomes pleasurable for her. And it's a pleasure for me to see her start thrusting her hips again. The second orgasm usually comes quickly for her.

If you read medical literature about the woman's clitoris. Then you'll find out that the woman's clitoris is very similar to the man's penis in terms of pleasure and orgasm for the woman. And when a woman for some reason happens to have too much testosterone-like hormones in her blood. Then over time her clitoris enlarges, elongates and begins to look like a man's cock. This is what happened to some East German female athletes who were taking steroids to improve their performance.

When you masturbate the woman's clitoris. Then her orgasmic experience is very similar to that of a man. And her clitoris is sensitive to the touch after an orgasm the same way a man's cock is after a male orgasm.

Basically, the woman's clit is a very small female cock. And you have to adapt your technique to her much smaller size. But other than that, it is safe to say that masturbating the woman's clitoris is much like masturbating your own cock.

When an attractive woman routinely has her way with many men and makes them orgasm all over the place. But she fakes her own orgasms and doesn't get off that much. Then she is a woman I'the like to give some of her own medicine. To debauch the professional debaucheress so much that she feels like an amateur who is about to fall in love with the guy is the pleasure in it for me.

AsiaTraveler2
09-06-07, 13:03
Dan, wow. I am impressed :-)

I just hope you not play all your magic when going with P4P pros in Bangkok. Would make me feel very inadequate.

Remember, you are the one who pays for service. You may want to calm your ambitions.

JB

Dan,

I must agree with JB here. I almost get the feeling, you are some 25 year old, just out of college. Trying to impress the audience with text book stuff, that is for the most part, common knowledge. I can understand that you may have a fetish for it. If so, enjoy. I can even understand, that like others, you may want to have the girl enjoy the experience. That's fine too. There's no need to broadcast for the rest of us or feel the need to "teach". Most of us have been around the block, have read all there is to read, experienced all that there is to experience, etc. No offense meant, if that's not your intent, but that's just the way it's coming across.

Bottom line, I don't really think most of the girls care if they get off or not. It's a job and getting off actually makes the job harder not better. You are the customer, so try to find what you are looking for. There are more than enough options in LOS.

Peace,
AT2

Dan7373
09-06-07, 16:50
Dan,

I must agree with JB here. I almost get the feeling, you are some 25 year old, just out of college. Trying to impress the audience with text book stuff, that is for the most part, common knowledge. I can understand that you may have a fetish for it. If so, enjoy.My age is a lot older than 25 years. But it's true that I have a good understanding of female anatomy and physiology from my medically-related education at a university.

I'm not so sure it's common knowledge that a woman's clitoris is equivalent to the man's cock in terms of orgasm and sexual pleasure.

JB mentioned to me that massage women usually have sex with five or six men in one day. And by the end of the day, they must be sexually exhausted and probably not in the mood to have another orgasm.

But the fact is that women almost never have clitoral orgasm during normal sexual intercourse. Because they don't get enough clitoral stimulation for such an orgasm to happen. Women can have a clitoral orgasm only when a guy goes oral on them, or when they masturbate themselves, or when someone else masturbates their clitoris. And although such action does happen in massage parlours. Guys seldom do it long enough on the lady to bring her to orgasm.

Quite often the lady is under impression that the guy is only trying to arouse her for penetrative sex. And she doesn't let him finish her. She starts urging the guy to ride her, when she feels excited enough.

Also, massage women sometimes refuse guys who want to do unprotected oral on them. And many guys don't do oral on them because they are afraid of STD's too.

My point is that a massage woman can have sex with five or six men in one day and not have a clitoral orgasm with any one of them. Which means that when I'm the last guy doing her. Then perhaps she has even more potential for clitoral orgasm than she has had at the beginning of the day.

To be sexually excited by five men and not to have an orgasm perhaps is somewhat frustrating for the lady. And I can see how it can be enjoyable for her to have her last cutomer give her a clitoral orgasm.

That's why I explained to JB earlier about the woman's clitoris and how the woman's clitoral orgasm works. I wasn't trying to impress him. I was just making a point in our discussion that masturbating a massage lady can be good at any time of the day.

And I'm not so sure that the desire to make a woman orgasm is some kind of unusual fetish among men. Most men like to see this to happen. Not many men enjoy being with a 'dead fish' who looks bored when you are banging her.

When a woman has a genuine orgasm with a man. Then it's not only a pleasure for her. It's also a boost for the man's sexual ego. Which most men like to have.

Jungle Bluebird
09-07-07, 03:58
Dan, the biggest favor you can do is to pay a god tip to a P4P pro or buy a nice present for your g/f or date. Trust me, they appreciate that more then you going down for endless sexual pleasure.

One more thing with regard to Bangkok working girls. Most of these girls have been violated in one way or another. It mostly goes back to the Thai sweet talking b/f who made her pregnant and then did a runner.

Most of the girls have no education, come from extreme poverty and have no comprehension of a guy treating them fairly. Your attempt to apply western sensitivities is doomed from the start. Most girls are probably embarrassed about your attempts to please. Asian guys just don't act like that.

JB






My age is a lot older than 25 years. But it's true that I have a good understanding of female anatomy and physiology from my medically-related education at a university.

I'm not so sure it's common knowledge that a woman's clitoris is equivalent to the man's cock in terms of orgasm and sexual pleasure.

JB mentioned to me that massage women usually have sex with five or six men in one day. And by the end of the day, they must be sexually exhausted and probably not in the mood to have another orgasm.

But the fact is that women almost never have clitoral orgasm during normal sexual intercourse. Because they don't get enough clitoral stimulation for such an orgasm to happen. Women can have a clitoral orgasm only when a guy goes oral on them, or when they masturbate themselves, or when someone else masturbates their clitoris. And although such action does happen in massage parlours. Guys seldom do it long enough on the lady to bring her to orgasm.

Quite often the lady is under impression that the guy is only trying to arouse her for penetrative sex. And she doesn't let him finish her. She starts urging the guy to ride her, when she feels excited enough.

Also, massage women sometimes refuse guys who want to do unprotected oral on them. And many guys don't do oral on them because they are afraid of STD's too.

My point is that a massage woman can have sex with five or six men in one day and not have a clitoral orgasm with any one of them. Which means that when I'm the last guy doing her. Then perhaps she has even more potential for clitoral orgasm than she has had at the beginning of the day.

To be sexually excited by five men and not to have an orgasm perhaps is somewhat frustrating for the lady. And I can see how it can be enjoyable for her to have her last cutomer give her a clitoral orgasm.

That's why I explained to JB earlier about the woman's clitoris and how the woman's clitoral orgasm works. I wasn't trying to impress him. I was just making a point in our discussion that masturbating a massage lady can be good at any time of the day.

And I'm not so sure that the desire to make a woman orgasm is some kind of unusual fetish among men. Most men like to see this to happen. Not many men enjoy being with a 'dead fish' who looks bored when you are banging her.

When a woman has a genuine orgasm with a man. Then it's not only a pleasure for her. It's also a boost for the man's sexual ego. Which most men like to have.

Dan7373
09-07-07, 05:55
....Most of the girls have no education, come from extreme poverty and have no comprehension of a guy treating them fairly. Your attempt to apply western sensitivities is doomed from the start. Most girls are probably embarrassed about your attempts to please. Asian guys just don't act like that.

JBPerhaps you are right. One time a good Thai lady friend of mine asked me with some puzzlement why do farangs want to do DATY on her? "It's not clean", she said with disgust. And she said that she agreed to let the guy do DATY on her only because he threatened not to pay her if she didn't let him do it.

It seems to me that in Thai culture, the woman's pussy is considered unclean for oral consumption. And Thai guys don't normally do DATY on Thai women.

But this lady friend of mine had no problem with me hand-masturbating her. Perhaps a guy hand-masturbating the lady is more acceptable in Thai culture.

My pleasure in masturbating the massage woman is the same as the pleasure of a man doing DATY on her. Some guys MUST do DATY on the lady in order to feel satisfied. And they are not doing DATY just for her pleasure. They are doing DATY to fulfill their own psycho-sexual need.

It's the same for me with masturbating the lady. I actually used to like doing DATY a lot. But due to my fear of STD's, I've learned to fulfil this psycho-sexual need of mine through masturbating the lady instead of doing DATY on her. Since this is a psychological need and not a physical one for me. It actually doesn't matter to me a lot how the woman gets her sexual pleasure from me and reaches orgasm. As long as I excite her and bring her to orgasm, then I'm satisfied.

I suspect there is some biological reason why many men have such an intense need to sexually please their woman and make her orgasm. It could be an instinctive sexual desire that is influenced by inherited genes.

There is a definite reproductive advantage for a man to please the woman so much that she wants to stay with him and wants to let him bang her some more. The more he gets to bang the lady, the more chance there is that she gets pregnant with his child. And perhaps there is some gene (or genes) that influence men's behavior in this direction. Hence the desire to do it.

This is not how men think about it in their minds of course. But biology has its own logic that acts through people's desires and emotions and not through conscious reasoning.

If some uneducated Thai lady asks me to explain to her exactly why do I want to fuck her? The best answer I would be able to give her is that I simply want. I could say it's because she has nice tits, or something to that effect. But exactly why do I like her tits, I would not be able to explain to her.

Of course, there is a biological explanation. My male hormones make me like her tits and create my desire to fuck her. But I know this only because I've read it in a textbook. It's not something I naturally know from my expreince in life.

It's like that with any sexual desire, including the desire to masturbate the lady or do DATY on her until she orgasms. There is some biological explanation for this desire. But it's not something people naturally know from their experience. People simply want to do it. And that's as far as people's natural awareness of it goes.

Forever69
09-07-07, 09:24
oh danny boy, the women you try to educate us to treat to o's only get sore from all the biting rubbing and sucking. they are hardened pros otherwise they would not be available sexually 24/7. a lot of them know that groaning and moaning at the right time will speed things up and "i come too! " whispered in your ear will increase your sense of manliness and their tip. they are doing you a service by letting you use their little goldmine for as short a time as possible for as much money as they can get. if you think they have feelings for/with you that only shows how good they are at their game and how naive you. if they need to come they won't need your help thats for sure. if you want the experiences you seem to write about you have to find a regular girl and try to convince her. stop boring us with biology class we we already had back in kindergarden.

NicFrenchy
09-07-07, 10:16
Well. So much for me exploring HuaHin for a few days! Health problems had me come back to BKK in a hurry so I decided to explore a new BKK Venue (massage of course).

My interest was leaning towards a Soi 22 oily place, Nuan Massage? Lavender Massage? Maybe see if Rin was there at Hana Massage? Why not go and look at Kornwan’s lineup?

Well, as you guessed, I found myself lingering in soi 22.

Went to see Kornwan (http://www.kornwanmassage.com/) but only 4 ladies available, Miss Janey was there (she looked 90kilos) so I passed.

Walked to Hana (http://hanamassage.web.fc2.com/index.htm)but saw that Rin was not there at the Cashier’s desk (which means she’s simply not there or already busy).

I continue my route up Soi 22 towards Sukhumvit, I feel I might once again need a foot massage after all that walking LOL.

I pass a lot of little TTM joints but the women trying to usher you in are all old or fat so I do not stop. Upon arriving in front of Lavender Massage I see 4 ladies eating outside, I check them out and they don’t even smile at me, they just look at me as if I’m disturbing their lunch.

I cross on the other side of the street and go to Nuan, the girls seem all captivated to the Soap opera on TV and are glued to their seats. Just my luck!

I go backwards and head for Sazanka. I enter Sazanka and am asked to sit on a sofa. The Waiting Vestibule has a nice Fishbowl (I know what you are all thinking, but this Fishtank is a real one, with 4 big fishes in it). Lady comes out and gives me a cold towel and an iced tea. Another Farang enters and sits just across from me (hey, if you read this you’ll know who I am) he is sweating and looks like he needs a good night’s sleep (don’t we all? ).

I am on the Telephone so he picks before I do and is off to Heaven (or Hell if he chose the Salt Scrub LOL), Young Thai Papasan shows me only only 2 cards. I look at him with a "wtf" look on my face and he smiles, "sorry, many lady but busy", fair enough, I ask to see all the cards of the girls working this day and a few cuties catch my eye. I point to a lady and he tells me she finishes in an hour, I decide not to wait and thank them, ready to leave, Papasan smiles and asks me to come again.

I walk until soi 24 and am sweating profusely, I need to make a decision quick!

Against all odds, I find myself climbing the stairs of Orient Massage. My previous experience there (with miss Noiy http://www.internationalsexguide. Info/forum/showpost.php? P=554616&postcount=2010) did not leave a great taste in my mouth but, what the hell, I’m already up there and looking at the album.

One girl picks my interest and I decided to book her (let’s call her WhiteGirl because she had white skin).

WhiteGirl greets me and escorts me to a room that looked old (like the ones at Angels) has a Tub (I prefer showers) and asks me to disrobe while she goes to get the soap. Upon her return she is glad to see me fully naked, and "orders" me to go wash up, I do not even ask her to join as I am expecting she will not, but as a pleasant surprise she came to wash up along with me (naked as the day she was born).

I enjoyed playing with her in the tub, she said she liked me and I could tell the chemistry was good. At that time, I was glad to have picked her.

On the bed, she did not even take out the Oil from the basket, she just caressed my dick and put it in her mouth. She was sucking me so slow (I love it) that I was at the edge of cuming after a couple of minutes already! I asked her to stop and she smiled (she figured out I was already almost "there"). She had a great looking body and I made sure to lick every inch of it.

After a little 69 action, sex on the bed was very good and we finished just on time. She kissed me and asked me if I was here before, I said yes but told her she was the best I had at Orient so far (she was very happy and proud I said that), she asked me to come back.

Damage: 1500 for WhiteGirl, 400 for Orient

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Dan7373
09-07-07, 20:03
... They are hardened pros otherwise they would not be available sexually 24/7....

I'the say that most often your experience with the lady depends a lot on how well you treat her. And perhaps this is why your experiences with P4P ladies have been different from mine.

'You reap that which you sow' is a common saying among the village people. And this is true in your relationships with people too.

As I said in one of my earlier reports. I've spent some time in the Isaan region of Thailand. And I personally know some former P4P ladies who are now happily married to farangs from Europe. Some of their farang husbands are staying with them in Thailand. Others are working outside Thailand and visiting their Thai families regularly. And they all seem to be doing ok as far as love and family life is concerned.

Just because a lady has been a sex worker for five or six years in Pattaya or some other place and has had sex with hundreds of men for money, doesn't necessarily mean that she has lost her humanity and cannot love someone who is nice to her. She is just as human as anybody else is and just as capable of love and affection.

And this is not just my opinion. I know this for a fact. Because I've known some of these P4P ladies when they were sex-working. And I've seen their family life after they got married to their customers.

Perhaps it's true that some P4P ladies get hardened and loose some of their humanity. But the same is probably true of some men who frequent these P4P ladies. It takes two to have sex for money. And it's just as easy for men to start looking at women as a commodity, as it is the other way around.

Nobody is perfect. And neither are the so called good girls.

Family laws in the West are such that should you marry a good Thai girl and bring her to live with you in your country. Then your marriage may not work out after a few years due to cultural differences and other problems. And you could easily end up living alone without a wife and paying your former good lady huge sums of money, while she sleeps with other men and never ever lets you ride her again.

Just because she is from Thailand, doesn't mean that some feminist lawyer won't put her up to this should your marriage run into trouble.

Your separation of women into good and not so good is a bit artificial I would say. The only way you can know whether the lady is good or not is to see whether she is fair and square in her dealings with other people.

When you judge people simply by what they do for a living without knowing them personally in any way. Then this is prejudice pure and simple.

Your prejudice against Thai sex workers I don't share.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Jungle Bluebird
09-08-07, 04:02
Nic

I envy you. After all, you are doing the right thing. Bangkok is a shithole and there is only one thing this place has to offer loads, MP's and girls. Lots of them.

Wish I would have the energy and time. Thanks for the reports.

JB

Forever69
09-08-07, 06:45
Your separation of women into good and not so good is a bit artificial I would say. The only way you can know whether the lady is good or not is to see whether she is fair and square in her dealings with other people.

When you judge people simply by what they do for a living without knowing them personally in any way. Then this is prejudice pure and simple.

Your prejudice against Thai sex workers I don't share/I never used neither good nor bad or questioned the humanity of p4p girls, or anybody for that matter not even yours. I think you might be a little bit confused about your own agenda since you went from trying to get me make them come now to marry them and take them home (? ). I live in Thailand, my wife is Thai and my prejudice against sex workers is that they should pleasure me as well as I pay them.

NicFrenchy
09-08-07, 17:54
Nic

I envy you. After all, you are doing the right thing. Bangkok is a shithole and there is only one thing this place has to offer loads, MP's and girls. Lots of them.

Wish I would have the energy and time. Thanks for the reports.

JBThanks JB, you know I love them MPs (LOL}

Yep, I am full of energy since I am only 30, if I do not hafe fun now then when am I going to do it? Besides, I am not sure how long my company is going to keep me here so best to enjoy while I can.

New Hana Massage (with Rin of course) report coming soon.

M P Lurker
09-09-07, 06:20
Perhaps you are right. One time a good Thai lady friend of mine asked me with some puzzlement why do farangs want to do DATY on her? "It's not clean", she said with disgust. And she said that she agreed to let the guy do DATY on her only because he threatened not to pay her if she didn't let him do it.

It seems to me that in Thai culture, the woman's pussy is considered unclean for oral consumption. And Thai guys don't normally do DATY on Thai women.

But this lady friend of mine had no problem with me hand-masturbating her. Perhaps a guy hand-masturbating the lady is more acceptable in Thai culture.

My pleasure in masturbating the massage woman is the same as the pleasure of a man doing DATY on her. Some guys MUST do DATY on the lady in order to feel satisfied. And they are not doing DATY just for her pleasure. They are doing DATY to fulfill their own psycho-sexual need.

It's the same for me with masturbating the lady. I actually used to like doing DATY a lot. But due to my fear of STD's, I've learned to fulfil this psycho-sexual need of mine through masturbating the lady instead of doing DATY on her. Since this is a psychological need and not a physical one for me. It actually doesn't matter to me a lot how the woman gets her sexual pleasure from me and reaches orgasm. As long as I excite her and bring her to orgasm, then I'm satisfied.

I think there is a bit of generalisation here. Some women are not into DATY and others are into it in a big way.
My Thai Gf loves it but as Thais are very concerned about personal hygene she must go and wash first. She doesn't want to kiss either before brushing her teeth in the Morning. Some Thais (not all) are not into french kissing much at all. Others get into it only when plyed with alcohol.

I am also warped in that I don't enjoy sex if the girl doesn't enjoy it as well.
Thats why I thnk Thais are superior to working girls back home. Thai girls are far more likely to be willing to enjoy their work and even allow themselves to orgasm with customers they like.

If we weren't biologically programed to like sex, there would be no Forum and no babies. :-) Sure its a mystery to us all why we want to screw so much.

Anyone (not you mate) who thinks that P4P girls never orgasm while working is either stupid or just doesn't care whether the girl has a good time.
Some girls do P4P because they like the money and they like sex as well, although not every man can be desirable.
Some P4P girls may be considered semi-pros since they accept money but refuse many potential pick-ups, looking for a preferrable customer instead.
I have a lot of respect for girls who won't go with just any customer.
Even some bar girls are like this.

Dan7373
09-09-07, 19:05
I think there is a bit of generalisation here. Some women are not into DATY and others are into it in a big way....

I am also warped in that I don't enjoy sex if the girl doesn't enjoy it as well.
Thats why I thnk Thais are superior to working girls back home. Thai girls are far more likely to be willing to enjoy their work and even allow themselves to orgasm with customers they like....Perhaps some Thai women who have had a lot of sex with farangs have learned to enjoy guys doing DATY on them. DATY is a kind of masturbation for the lady. And good masturbation is always physically pleasant, even when the lady finds it psychologically disgusting at first. I can see how any Thai woman can learn to like guys doing DATY on her, even if it's not a part of her culture.

If every day the lady comes close to orgasm two or three times a day from farang guys doing DATY on her. Then culture or no culture, this lady will learn to like it. And eventually she'll probably like it a lot.

And you are right about the P4P women back home. They often try to avoid having feelings with their customers. They give their bodies for sex. But they keep their minds out of it. And a guy doing one of them sometimes ends up feeling like he is having sex with a mindless doll who doesn't have any sex on her mind at all.

Full sexual pleasure for me comes from uniting in both body and mind with the lady. Which means that not only do I want to go balls deep inside the lady's body. But I also want to sexually arouse the lady's mind and make her like that cock inside her a lot. It's like going balls deep inside the lady's mind too.

Some say this is impossible with P4P ladies. And perhaps they are right in about P4P ladies back home. Because these ladies often refuse to hug and kiss. And they often don't let guys masturbate them with DATY or hands.

They refuse to do all this for a good reason, of course. This is how they keep the holes to their sexual minds closed and inaccessible for the guy who wants to go balls deep inside their minds too.

But most P4P ladies in Thailand are not like that at all. Walking around and holding hands with her is acceptable. Hugging and kissing is welcome. And clitoral masturbation from her guy she likes. Her mind is just as open for sex with the guy as her body is.

But just because her mind is open, doesn't mean that every guy with her takes advantage of it. Some guys are stuck with ideas about P4P ladies from back home. And they limit themselves to mechanical sex only with the lady.

A lady doesn't need to be in love with her guy in order to orgasm from his masturbating her. Even the lady masturbating herself will orgasm. And this not because she is in love with herself. She orgasms because that clitoris of hers is a direct physical connection (through nerve cells) to her sexual mind. The lady's clitoris is an opening to her sexual mind just as much as her hole below is an opening to her vagina.

A well-lubricated guy can physically go balls deep inside the lady, as long as she doesn't cross her legs to keep him out. And in the same way a guy can go balls deep inside the lady's sexual mind, as long as she doesn't push away his well-lubricated tongue or fingers from her clitoris.

Some people are stuck with the idea that feelings must always come before sex, perhaps because that's how society expects it to happen. But this idea is just a habit of mind. There is no reason why it can't happen the other way around. And with P4P ladies in Thailand, the other way around does happen.

When a guy keeps coming back to his P4P lady and makes her orgasm day after day. Then it's almost inevitable that she will develop some feeling for him. And of course she makes him cum every time too. Which makes him like her a lot.

If this goes on long enough, then they can end up falling in love and getting married. Which by the way does happen in Thailand. I personally know some couples like that.

NicFrenchy
09-10-07, 04:16
Guys,

There is a Thread called "Thai Women, Options and Advice" where I think you should continue your conversations.

It is very interesting indeed, but not to those who are coming to the Bangkok Massage Parlors Thread.

Thanks

NicFrenchy
09-10-07, 04:41
Went to Annies last week in the afternoon and there were about 15 girls available (not so bad for that early time).

The Mamasan joked with me that there were ladies from 20 to 50 available, I remember replying "I can see that" LOL. Not that the ladies are ugly, because beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I could not find a lady that appealed to me enough to book a session.

Mamasan told me that service was excellent, which I know because I have been there before.

I left, but will return. Maybe next time there will be a lady that I will like, that is what is good about Massage Parlors, you can always come and go because there always will be new ladies or ladies you have not seen before.

NicFrenchy
09-10-07, 06:30
Saturday Morning and I was already horny, now I know all men are horny in the morning (waking up with a Tent down there) but I felt that I needed an early morning relief.

Now it is 8:30 am and unless you have a TG with you in your bed already, achieving an early morning relief will be difficult since most Massage places open at 11am (some at 10).
Situation is complicated but far from being hopeless, since I remember that SOL (the Star of Light) opens for sucking at 9:00am.

No need to say more, I am on my way to Patpong.

PP1 was dead, nothing open at this early hour, just a few trucks unloading Cases of Beer in anticipation of Tonight’s busy action (and drinking).

Made my way to PP2 and I saw a couple ladies from SOL eating outside, applying makeup, getting ready for today’s activities. I decide to let them eat in peace and will go get breakfast before disturbing them.

Have breakfast at Sarika café: 120thb for 2eggs, 2 sausages, toasts, coffee, OJ
No wireless though... my Laptop did not even pickup a single signal from the neighborhood (Secured or not), which is weird because there is a Starbucks right across from Sarika and still no Wireless.

Breakfast was decent (you can't be choosy in such a place and in such an area at this price).

There are some nice waitresses in the place and one shows particular interest into what I am doing, every-time I look up she is looking at me. Are these signals? Am I imagining things? I know I am horny (that's why I am in PP2) but, well I call her over and ask for her name and tell her she is "beautiful". She tells me her name, blushes and leaves me very quickly.

I can hear the waitresses in my back all giggling. I am not interested in her at all, but I am sure the compliment gave her face in front of her colleagues and will make her feel good for the day.

The place feels up quickly with Japanese customers from both sexes, men together and women together, no couples, interesting LOL.

I will not return to Sarika, the coffee shop is divided in two: Smoking and non Smoking with no separation so you can get a good whiff of all the smoker’s second hand smoke. I do not care for clouds of smoke, especially when I eat.

Back to PP2 I saw the Bangkok Sisters from outside, seedy side passage to get there, Poor signage:

See Photos Below

When I went back to SOL, the ladies were still outside chatting and somehow, having my stomach full, I was not in a hurry to have sex anymore. I passed SOL and went for a walk around. That walk around ended up in the BTS and before you know it, I was on Soi 22, in front of Hana Massage lokking for a Balls Rub.

Rin was there, dressed in an Abercrombie Yellow Dress with white Stripes. She saw me and gave me a big smile but I could see that she was surprised to see me and checked her watch. I guess she was not expecting to work that early LOL.
We went up and as usual I showered alone. I could sense she was not really in the mood so I did not push the issue. She asked me to lay on my stomach and for the next 40 minutes, gave me a very enjoyable massage (same quality as in a TTM joint).

The Balls massage is very pleasurable and I am standing on the edge of Orgasm more than once, but I (I don’t know how) manage to hold back. After a little while she is getting more and more into the HJ Session and what she does with her hands is just Terrific.

This is what I like about Rin; she’s no stunner, not young, not facially beautiful but she has one thing for her: when it comes to male anatomy, I don’t think there is a part of our body she does not know about! And not only that, she knows exactly what to do to make us happy.

So here I am, laying there, in balance between heaven and Earth when suddenly she stops, removes her dress, bra and starts a Tit job. It is getting increasingly difficult for me to hold back, just seeing her tits and long nipples rubbing my cock, her tongue teasing the tip everytime she can see it. The intensity is almost unbearable, she can see I am on the edge but somehow avoids (purposefully) to get me over it. She sucks the base, balls, until I am back on Earth, and then goes at it again!

My moans indicate that I am about to release but she does not avert her head one bit, she continues sucking until she can taste the first drops and then finishes me with a vigorous HJ making sure I come on her tits.

I am out of breath and she smirks, asks me to lay down while she goes to shower. I am tempted to take a picture of her pink underwear but I do not want to unless she approves of it, and I certainly will not ask.

400thb to Hana and 1000thb to Rin, and I left, once again a very happy customer.

Forever69
09-10-07, 12:17
If this goes on long enough, then they can end up falling in love and getting married. Which by the way does happen in Thailand. I personally know some couples like that.And that is exactly what will happen to danny boy -from p4p to the good husband in no time at all.

Vishnu
09-10-07, 14:54
Just in case that somebody missed her, Poo is back at Tulip's.

M P Lurker
09-10-07, 15:13
Guys,

There is a Thread called "Thai Women, Options and Advice" where I think you should continue your conversations.

It is very interesting indeed, but not to those who are coming to the Bangkok Massage Parlors Thread.

Thanks
Sorry when I reply it ends up in the same thread as the post being replied to and I forgot which thread I was in anyway.

NicFrenchy
09-11-07, 04:08
I have realised that in 2 Oily Massage Joints (Euro Massage and Matsutake Massage) both catering mainly to Japanese, they have adopted an ALL Inclusive pricing Strategy.

EURO Massage Prices itself as Follows:
1.5 hours 2,100thb inclusive of Full service
2 hours 2,300thb inclusive of Full service

MATSUTAKE Massage Prices itself as Follows:
1 hours 1,500thb inclusive of Full service
1.5 hours 2,000 thb inclusive of Full service
2 hours 2,500thb inclusive of Full service

This is an interesting pricing strategy and this practice actually has me worried.
Maybe this is what the Japanese like?

Also, look at the Matsutake Price, 1500 for 1 hour Oily and Full service. How much does the girl get? maybe 1000, will she perform as nicely as if she was getting 1500? not sure.

I would hate for all the massage places to adopt that same business model. Why? Because I sometimes like to let the chemistry build-up with the girl before I decide to have FS, sometimes I only feel like a BJ, and, with the all inclusive pricing, you are forced to pay for FS from the start.

What do you guys think? What would you prefer?

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

AsiaTraveler2
09-11-07, 08:33
Saturday Morning and I was already horny, now I know all men are horny in the morning (waking up with a Tent down there) but I felt that I needed an early morning relief.

Now it is 8:30 am and unless you have a TG with you in your bed already, achieving an early morning relief will be difficult since most Massage places open at 11am (some at 10).
Situation is complicated but far from being hopeless, <cut>

Nic,

Maybe you already know about it, but if you don't, there's Sabai Sabai on Soi 11. Across from the Ambassador Hotel and in that lane that runs from Soi 11 in behind the 7-11 and back out to Soi 11. It's open 24/7 and you get a massage w/hj on premises and possibly FS if you take out. FS not guaranteed, and it depends on the girl. The HJ appears to be guaranteed, for a tip.

That place is always my backup, in the off hours.

AT2

NicFrenchy
09-11-07, 09:26
Maybe you already know about it, but if you don't, there's Sabai Sabai on Soi 11. Tried it twice in the very odd hours of the night and was not positively impressed. I had a lousy massage and HJ even so the provider was different both times. Maybe it was just my good Luck? LOL

M P Lurker
09-11-07, 12:11
I have realised that in 2 Oily Massage Joints (Euro Massage and Matsutake Massage) both catering mainly to Japanese, they have adopted an ALL Inclusive pricing Strategy.

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Also, look at the Matsutake Price, 1500 for 1 hour Oily and Full service. How much does the girl get? maybe 1000, will she perform as nicely as if she was getting 1500? not sure.

I would hate for all the massage places to adopt that same business model. Why? Because I sometimes like to let the chemistry build-up with the girl before I decide to have FS, sometimes I only feel like a BJ, and, with the all inclusive pricing, you are forced to pay for FS from the start.

What do you guys think? What would you prefer?


All in pricing is usually an antedote to Customers ripping off the girls by getting FS but not paying for it. Very common problem for girls.

We don't like it because we don't know how much the girl is getting and how much the Management is ripping off the top (usually too much).
We have little control then other than to give an extra tip if the service was exceptional, but we can't get the money back if the girl was shit.

The only advantage is for newbies who really don't know how much they should pay.

NicFrenchy
09-12-07, 07:26
Just went to Angel 22 yesterday and asked if Soda was available (see attached pic)

she was available and I booked her. Can you imagine my surprise when a Soda "that looks like she's been on Crack" came out? I asked for the book again and I can tell you that the cute Soda from the Picture is far from the one that was standing in front of me.

I was very apologetic to the girl and the Cashier and said that this is not what I had in mind, they both said it was ok, no problem.

I chose another girl but the cashier told me I had to wait 15mn because she was at Soi 26.

I refused and Left.

Angel 22, RIP.

Japentii
09-12-07, 16:39
Hi guys,

First time poster here. I am heading to Bangkok for a short stay. Staying at the Davis Hotel (88 Sukhumvit 24). Since I am not familiar with Bangkok's geography, transportation, etc. I was hoping someone could recommend some nice massage parlours near the hotel, or if not, ways of getting to nice massage parlours.

Requirements:

- I would like to try a soapy massage
- Preferably somewhere that offers nice GFE and 2 shots
- Not absolutely necessary, but any place that offers BBBJ and CIM would be nice.
- not too expensive

Thanks in advance.

Japentii

BionicMan
09-12-07, 19:03
Hi guys,
First time poster here. I am heading to Bangkok for a short stay. Staying at the Davis Hotel (88 Sukhumvit 24). Since I am not familiar with Bangkok's geography, transportation, etc. I was hoping someone could recommend some nice massage parlours near the hotel, or if not, ways of getting to nice massage parlours.
Requirements:
- I would like to try a soapy massage
- Preferably somewhere that offers nice GFE and 2 shots
- Not absolutely necessary, but any place that offers BBBJ and CIM would be nice.
- not too expensive
Thanks in advance.
Japentii

Ah ah Japentif! do you want some of us also to deliver your preferred brand of condoms, warm up the girls for you? Arrange for any negotiation?
Any blue vitamin needed?

Come on mate, the answer to your post is only one RTFF...
I can't believe the information you "require" are not somewhere in here!
Do some homework, that is how it works on ISG

NicFrenchy
09-13-07, 05:28
You caught me in a good mood today so I'll help out:

Closest to Sukhumvit 24 are 2 Places:

Chavalla Sukhumvit Soi 34
1,300 thb for 2 hours, mostly a BBBJ/CIM place but some ladies push hard for FS (for a tip). I get 3 shots sometimes and Always Tip 500 thb.

Darlings Sukhumvit Soi 12
2,500 for 1.5 hours, Guaranteed 2 shots
1 BBBJ/CIM in the Tub
1 FS on the bed
Girls are nicer than Chavalla

There is also CUPIDY @ Plaza Entertainment
Fishbowl Girls are 1,800
Sideline are 2,200
(Beware, the Papasans can smell Newbies a mile away)
you get 1 shot only but the Inflatable Mattress Soap Experience is too good to pass up. Some Girls do BBBJ, most do CBJ.

Japentii
09-13-07, 08:26
You caught me in a good mood today so I'll help out:

Closest to Sukhumvit 24 are 2 Places:

Chavalla Sukhumvit Soi 24
1,300 thb for 2 hours, mostly a BBBJ/CIM place but some ladies push hard for FS (for a tip). I get 3 shots sometimes and Always Tip 500 thb.

Darlings Sukhumvit Soi 12
2,500 for 1.5 hours, Guaranteed 2 shots
1 BBBJ/CIM in the Tub
1 FS on the bed
Girls are nicer than Chavalla

There is also CUPIDY @ Plaza Entertainment
Fishbowl Girls are 1,800
Sideline are 2,200
(Beware, the Papasans can smell Newbies a mile away)
you get 1 shot only but the Inflatable Mattress Soap Experience is too good to pass up. Some Girls do BBBJ, most do CBJ.Thanks a lot Nicfrenchy. You must have been in a better mood than the Bionicman. :) Will post report after trying them out.

Giotto
09-13-07, 10:16
Chavalla Sukhumvit Soi 24
1,300 thb for 2 hours, mostly a BBBJ/CIM place but some ladies push hard for FS (for a tip). I get 3 shots sometimes and Always Tip 500 thb.
...
NicFrenchy,

You mean Chavalla II in Soi 34 (not 24), right?


Giotto

AsiaTraveler2
09-13-07, 10:39
Tried it twice in the very odd hours of the night and was not positively impressed. I had a lousy massage and HJ even so the provider was different both times. Maybe it was just my good Luck? LOL

Nic,

Could be bad luck or just different strokes for different folks! LOL! I actually prefer the services I have had there over the legendary Rin and Sazanka. Not to say that Sabai Sabai is anything more than an average oily massage place. Just not that high on Rin or Sazanka. Both are unique, but once tried, not really that special. At least for me. I find both places, not the most comfortable. Rin's place reminds me of the small rooms that the Teen places have on Soi 33. Sazanka is hit or miss and some of the salt scrubs can be terribly done. The place is also run down. I sometimes wonder, how the legitimate places can have so much better facilities, charging essentially the same prices, and with less volume.

I have had some good fortune at Sabai Sabai and had one of the best rides (FS), from a take out from that place. The most obvious reason to recommend it, however, is that it is 24/7 if you are ever in a pinch or too lazy to look around! LOL!

AT2

ArchieLeach
09-13-07, 10:44
i would defer to nicfrenchy in all things bkk, but i would add some info. anyone please feel free to comment or correct me if i mislead.

the davis bangkok looks cool, but do they really charge you for internet access (that's so irritating)?

add to your list thonglor 2. it's on your street (soi 24).

and angel massage and hana massage on soi 22. all seem to be highly recommended for good service. you're probably not going to get the full mattress treatment, but you should get fs with great service.

to clarify what thailearner said in the bkk thread: he recommended eden on soi 7 and [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) on soi 8. those are not soapies, or even massage places. but you mentioned you wanted bbbjcim, and you will definitely get that at both of these places. just not a massage.

most importantly, check out giotto's post on massage parlors in the bkk massage parlor thread (this one). it's post #2314. it's about 29 or 30 pages back. it's brilliant! (maybe now giotto will be nice to me when i go to his place in oct).

i'm a fan of the mattress soapy, and it seems to be harder and harder to find.

hope that helps.

archie

AsiaTraveler2
09-13-07, 10:46
<cut>

Come on mate, the answer to your post is only one RTFF...
I can't believe the information you "require" are not somewhere in here!
Do some homework, that is how it works on ISG

I use to agree with this sentiment, but have changed my feelings on this approach. It's actually quite lazy to flame someone and somewhat hypocritical, calling someone lazy and actually being too lazy to answer. Also as I read the Rio thread, contemplating a return visit, I find the vocal minority a big turnoff on that thread. It's RTFF this and RTFF that.

What RTFF basically says, is work as hard as I did SOB. I really think a forum is meant to assist others, making their path easier that it was for us, and then easier for those to come. I also find some of the best new info, comes from answering the question and having someone else chime in with a newer/better option.

Finally, this is really Jackson's house and all visitors his guests. Seems rude to flame his guest in his house. On top of that, some are paying customers, and you are essentially chasing away his support. Seems simpler to answer when you want to and don't if you prefer not too. The internet has many great qualities, but one of the negatives is that it allows such obnoxious and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor behavior when you are not face to face with the other party.

Just my 2 cents.

AT2

AsiaTraveler2
09-13-07, 10:50
<cut>
Add to your list Thonglor 2. It's on your street (Soi 24).



Archie,

I suspect he meant Thonglor 2 and not Chavalla, which I think is on Soi 34 as Giotto mentioned. Unless, there's a Chavalla IV? LOL!

AT2

AsiaTraveler2
09-13-07, 11:08
Hi guys,

First time poster here. I am heading to Bangkok for a short stay. Staying at the Davis Hotel (88 Sukhumvit 24). Since I am not familiar with Bangkok's geography, transportation, etc. I was hoping someone could recommend some nice massage parlours near the hotel, or if not, ways of getting to nice massage parlours.

Requirements:

- I would like to try a soapy massage
- Preferably somewhere that offers nice GFE and 2 shots
- Not absolutely necessary, but any place that offers BBBJ and CIM would be nice.
- not too expensive

Thanks in advance.

Japentii

Japentii,

Bangkok is really easy to navigate these days, with the BTS Sky Train and MRT subway system. The BTS and MRT were basically built to take you to all of the entertainment zones in my opinion. From Soi 24, you have Thonglor II, which is an oil massage place with options. Soi 22 has Angels Massage and Sazanka Massage. You can also walk or take a $1 cab ride to Asok station and take the MRT (subway) to Huai Kwang station and take the Emerald hotel exit. You will find Emmanuelle and Nataree, which are both Soapy/Fish Bowl places. If you take the other exit opposite the Emerald hotel, you have Caesars, also a Soapy. You also have some KTV's in that area.

The next stop on the MRT after Huai Kwang is Suthisan. That's another Soapy Central stop with Poseidon and Copa Cabana as notables in that area. Takes all of 15 minutes to get between Asok and those stops.

I would recommend doing some reading. It will be worth it's weight in gold, for a newbie. Go past the fluff and arguments and just read the actual reviews. After reading a couple, you will be able to skip past the fluff pretty quickly. Look at the reports of distinction thread too. Use the search function. Select search type in key word, eg. "2 pops", select print results as reports, and select Thailand as the country. You will get a list of results.

Some BKK basics. Sukhumvit is one long stretch of road, that has even Soi's (streets/lanes) on one side and odd Soi's on the other. They are not necessarily right across from each other (e.g Soi 33 is not right across Soi 32). Soi 24 is very close to Soi 33, where there are massage joints and high end bars. Soi 24 is about a 30 minute walk or one Sky Train stop (10 blocks) to Soi 4 of Nana Entertainment Plaza fame (AKA NEP). Sukhumvit basically goes East/West and Ratchadapisek (Soapy land) goes North/South from Asok station on Sukhumvit.

Have fun!
AT2

NicFrenchy
09-13-07, 11:21
NicFrenchy,

You mean Chavalla II in Soi 34 (not 24), right?

GiottoYes, of course! Silly me, I made a Typo. Thanks Giotto for picking that up.

I edited my original Post ;)

AsiaTraveler2
09-13-07, 11:25
I have realised that in 2 Oily Massage Joints (Euro Massage and Matsutake Massage) both catering mainly to Japanese, they have adopted an ALL Inclusive pricing Strategy.

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This is an interesting pricing strategy and this practice actually has me worried.
Maybe this is what the Japanese like?



Nic,

I'm not sure if that is what they prefer, but it is definitely the prevailing way in Japan. Tips are not part of Japanese culture, because 110% effort and service is what is expected. Pricing takes on that same concept in all of the Japanese venues. Either fixed prices or specific rates based on time/type of service.

Japan and Korea would be my two favorite hobby destinations if they were not so difficult and expensive to navigate. The girls are fabulous! Luckily, we have 20 or so Asian Massage parlors in our little State, with a great pipeline of Korean talent from the US and from the mother land.

AT2

NicFrenchy
09-13-07, 11:32
Nic,

Could be bad luck or just different strokes for different folks! LOL!I think it was just bad luck, ladies were probably tired, I was horny and maybe expecting more than a HJ by a clothed gal.

what made me skeptical to return was that both times the Massage itself was average (at best). I don't mind if the whole BJ, FS is not available, but expect a Good massage.

Let me try it out one more time and I'll write a report about it, well, that's if nothing gets in my way, we both know Bkk can be quite surprising and no matter how dedicated you are to go somewhere there is always something that can "come up" LOL, an opportunity too good to pass up.

ArchieLeach
09-13-07, 11:51
AT2,

I would like to second your comments. It's one of those situations where both sides have legitimate points. It is irritating when people show up and make no effort. But on the other hand, the RTFF comment is usually thrown out by a vet to keep from having to answer a rookie question.

I'm the poster boy for R-ingTFF. My trip is scheduled for Oct, and I came back to ISG starting in Feb to start reading. That's 8 months of R-ingTFF: virtually every page.

But even with all that reading I still have unanswered questions. Some I could find using Search, but you also get a lot of chaff in the Search function. Mere mention of a place or service doesn't mean your question will be answered. I've seen some Damn good questions by newbies fluffed off as laziness when I've been reading for months and didn't know the answer.

Most veteran members have been quite helpful, but I've also gotten PMs from people who said "Dude, all you do is come here and ask questions" Well Yeah, I thought that was the point. I can't post any experiences for BKK right now because I haven't been in years. That's why I'm here. If I showed up at the last minute and tried to cram, you'd be telling me to RTFF.

In a way I feel like I've worn out my welcome by hanging around so much without actually being there. But there's nothing I can do about that so I'm not going to worry about it. You try to be nice to people and join in the conversation, but the regulars aren't interested in chatting with some guy they don't know, so sometimes it's easier to just get your info and go away. Which leads me to not flame the guys who just stop by once or twice and move on. People are going to get irritated with you either way. It's unfortunate, but it's the way things are.

Jungle Bluebird
09-13-07, 12:48
Nic

Trust you been numerous times to Thonglor Massage 24 & 26. I feel though I should recommend this place once again.

Been there now about 15 times, sampled a number of girls and must say, it was always good. Quality of girls is excellent, physically and performance wise.

Plus the hours. Due to commitments LOL, time wise best for me is AM, and whenever I booked online I got my choice at the requested hour.

Performance wise from BBBJCIM, rimming to anal or sensual, whatever my daily mood dictated I left with a smile.

I know this sounds like the promo, but heck, both places are clean and service orientated, so why not recommend.

JB




Just went to Angel 22 yesterday and asked if Soda was available (see attached pic)

she was available and I booked her. Can you imagine my surprise when a Soda "that looks like she's been on Crack" came out? I asked for the book again and I can tell you that the cute Soda from the Picture is far from the one that was standing in front of me.

I was very apologetic to the girl and the Cashier and said that this is not what I had in mind, they both said it was ok, no problem.

I chose another girl but the cashier told me I had to wait 15mn because she was at Soi 26.

I refused and Left.

Angel 22, RIP.

AsiaTraveler2
09-13-07, 13:30
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Most veteran members have been quite helpful, but I've also gotten PMs from people who said "Dude, all you do is come here and ask questions" Well Yeah, I thought that was the point. I can't post any experiences for BKK right now because I haven't been in years. That's why I'm here. If I showed up at the last minute and tried to cram, you'd be telling me to RTFF.

In a way I feel like I've worn out my welcome by hanging around so much without actually being there. But there's nothing I can do about that so I'm not going to worry about it. You try to be nice to people and join in the conversation, but the regulars aren't interested in chatting with some guy they don't know, so sometimes it's easier to just get your info and go away. Which leads me to not flame the guys who just stop by once or twice and move on. People are going to get irritated with you either way. It's unfortunate, but it's the way things are.

Archie,

Hang in there and keep asking. It's the best way to get info, IMO. The RTFF flamers are really a vocal minority. Have a great trip in October!

Peace,
AT2

Palatkik
09-13-07, 15:37
Just went to Angel 22 yesterday and asked if Soda was available (see attached pic)

she was available and I booked her. Can you imagine my surprise when a Soda "that looks like she's been on Crack" came out? I asked for the book again and I can tell you that the cute Soda from the Picture is far from the one that was standing in front of me.

Angel 22, RIP.She was as lovely as the pic a few months ago, but a little vacant perhaps. What a pity.

NicFrenchy
09-13-07, 16:38
Nic

Trust you been numerous times to Thonglor Massage 24 & 26. I feel though I should recommend this place once again.

Been there now about 15 times, sampled a number of girls and must say, it was always good. Quality of girls is excellent, physically and performance wise.I fully Agree with you JB. I love the 24 shop.

Tried 26 once but I prefer the 24 Branch. Quality of the place, room, showers, and girls are top notch. I highly recommend this place myself.

Now this is a dumb thing to do JB, pushing business towards Thonglor LOL, because before you know it, there won't be any rooms available when you come around.

ArchieLeach
09-13-07, 17:38
Thanks AT2, I can't wait for my trip. I really need a vacation.

El Greco
09-13-07, 22:58
hi gents,

i will be in town from sunday early morning for about 5 days before i move on to pnh and pattaya. then back to bkk for 2-3 days before returning to homeland sex prison.

i am suffering from a light lumbago. can someone, please, recomment a good physicotherapist (chiropractor) beforev i hit the soapies?

also if someone wants to hook up for a beer and exchange of war stories pls pm me.

i believe i know well enough brasil and buenos ayres and i can brief you on that.

thanks

el greco

ps i booked sunday night at ibis siam because i am a member and of their internet availability and thinking on moving to centre point, petchburi 15, apartments for the other days. any comments? are they gf?

Jungle Bluebird
09-14-07, 05:11
Yes, Nic, was contemplating whether to recommend. But heck, this may drive a bit of biz to the place, then it will disappear again in the ocean of Massage places.

JB (damn, I did it again :-)




I fully Agree with you JB. I love the 24 shop.

Tried 26 once but I prefer the 24 Branch. Quality of the place, room, showers, and girls are top notch. I highly recommend this place myself.

Now this is a dumb thing to do JB, pushing business towards Thonglor LOL, because before you know it, there won't be any rooms available when you come around.

Vishnu
09-14-07, 17:38
hi gents,

i will be in town from sunday early morning for about 5 days before i move on to pnh and pattaya. then back to bkk for 2-3 days before returning to homeland sex prison.

i am suffering from a light lumbago. can someone, please, recomment a good physicotherapist (chiropractor) beforev i hit the soapies?

also if someone wants to hook up for a beer and exchange of war stories pls pm me.

i believe i know well enough brasil and buenos ayres and i can brief you on that.

thanks

el greco

ps i booked sunday night at ibis siam because i am a member and of their internet availability and thinking on moving to centre point, petchburi 15, apartments for the other days. any comments? are they gf?centre point petchburi is a perfect place. the rooms are nice and very big. nobody will ever ask you anything about the girls you bring back home. try to get a room facing the pool side. they are more quiet than those facing petchburi road. have a good time.

Giotto
09-15-07, 07:39
There has obviously been a policy change at Sazanka's. FS is now available.

Before even girls I knew for longer were scared to offer this kind of service. Now, during the last visits, it was not a problem any more.

I am not sure whether first time visitors can get that kind of service, I think the girls need to know the customer a bit better. But during my last 3 visits the service was definitely on the menu.

A kind of funny, open cubicles, you can exactly hear what is going on in the cubicle next to you :) .


Giotto

LittleBigMan
09-15-07, 09:35
I was at Sazanka on the 7th of Sept. as reported on the Bangkok Thread I had Tomo which I saw around a year ago. The first time she made no attempt to offer anything more than the scrub down but this time she seem to be hinting much more kept saying as I was massaging her small breast " Big Money " but I never responded to her comment. I just kept on massaging her breast and pussy and she finally gave me a BJCIM instead of the regular HJ. I believe as Giotto does you can get more! but a what price I'm not sure?

Palatkik
09-15-07, 11:14
A kind of funny, open cubicles, you can exactly hear what is going on in the cubicle next to you :) .

GiottoThis can be a turn on for some?

Pradel
09-15-07, 14:50
On my next trip to BKK, I would like to try the 2 girls option at Annie's.

Do you try it before ? Can you tell me how is works and how it is ?

Thanks a lot.

BionicMan
09-15-07, 23:55
I use to agree with this sentiment, but have changed my feelings on this approach. It's actually quite lazy to flame someone and somewhat hypocritical, calling someone lazy and actually being too lazy to answer. ......
Just my 2 cents.
AT2

AT2, I do not want to take this forever, and also do not want to be taken as a flamer.

I myself have put questions, but mainly to get updates and/or I did not get he clear picture from past history.
Q&A are of course an essential part of this forum, just as the reports are.
but coming up qith a questionnaire with that type of questions, really seemed to me lazy and over the border.

I do agree with your same feelings about the purpose of the Forum, but the way the questions were 'listed' sounded to me like the guy did not spend or tried not to spend a couple of hours in RTFF, browsing through the thread history.
This was the reason of my irony, nothing else.

Have fun!

Blair
09-16-07, 02:08
Hi Gents,
....

PS I booked Sunday night at Ibis Siam because I am a member and of their internet availability and thinking on moving to Centre point, Petchburi 15, apartments for the other days. Any comments? Are they GF?

Ibis Siam (Ratchaprarop Rd, Pratunam) is not particularly GF. The *only* place in BKK I've been charged a fee. Irritating, especially as my companion and I were pretty discreet.

The close by Century Park (also on Ratchaprarop) is also not entirely friendly to our activity. I've stayed there 3 or 4 times and didn't have a problem, but one night came across a couple of guys being rinsed for a joiner fee. Probably doesn't help if you're in a group of guys all bringing company.

Skeeter
09-16-07, 09:04
I fully Agree with you JB. I love the 24 shop.

Tried 26 once but I prefer the 24 Branch. Quality of the place, room, showers, and girls are top notch. I highly recommend this place myself.

Now this is a dumb thing to do JB, pushing business towards Thonglor LOL, because before you know it, there won't be any rooms available when you come around.As always, every experience is individual, but went to Thonglor on 24 yesterday. Busy with many girls already chosen, but enough to pick from and picked Gear. She looked the part, but throughout the 1 1/2 hrs she didn't seem to be in to it very much. Looking out the wondow when she thought I was not concentrating, not keen to show her body, no smiles. The massage was fine, the sex was ok. Good HJ, BJ average and then - 'ahhh -King Size :(' was the comment (with a frown) when it came to the sex.

Much as this is ok for my ego, I'm no King Size and the sex was servicable, but not particularly great. Still, job done, no tip and I won't be back. For the same money, Tulip has a way better service IMHO.

Giotto
09-16-07, 10:30
This can be a turn on for some?Palatkik,

I think so.


Giotto

M P Lurker
09-16-07, 16:51
Palatkik,

I think so.


Giotto
Some German FKKs, the clubs have very small rooms with only curtains on the doors. Sneeking a peak at others fucking is common. After a while you get used to it, so then getting a blowjob in a Soi Cowboy bar with others watching becomes no big deal.

Didi Vise
09-16-07, 17:28
sounds great
I love this kind of places


There has obviously been a policy change at Sazanka's. FS is now available.

Before even girls I knew for longer were scared to offer this kind of service. Now, during the last visits, it was not a problem any more.

I am not sure whether first time visitors can get that kind of service, I think the girls need to know the customer a bit better. But during my last 3 visits the service was definitely on the menu.

A kind of funny, open cubicles, you can exactly hear what is going on in the cubicle next to you :) .


Giotto

Japentii
09-17-07, 03:21
Thanks to those who have shared their tips and advice. Finally I can now share my newbie report. You can skip directly to the massage report for the good stuff, but if you start from the hotel, you might find it more entertaining.

TAXI: OFFICIAL AIRPORT TAXI

Being the newbie to Suvarnabumi Airport, I saw some very well dressed people before getting out of the terminal. They were the official taxi providers. I thought, if the airport selected them, they must be trustworthy and offered a good deal. I was wrong. They charged me 1000b to get to the hotel whereas on my way back on a normal taxi, it was no more than 300b. Sure, the traffic into town was bad, but for so much more and just a relatively minimal upgrade to a Nissan something, it was not worth it. Walk pass them if you see the guys and gals in yellow, or better yet, stop and ask them why the are so damn expensive!

HOTEL: Davis Hotel (Soi 24, Sukhumvit)

Got all excited about getting a room at a 5-star hotel of only USD 80 a night. When I asked the taxi driver whether my hotel is at a good location, his hesitation probably said it all. Anyway, when we got there, the reception said that my booking is for the “Corner Wing”. She said the porter will escort me there, but I guess he was too busy. I was asked to walk there myself. It wasn’t too bad, but the heat combined with my luggage made the 50 meter walk felt like forever.

The room was nice, beautiful king sized bed, all the amenities you would hope for…except you have to pay for the internet! Well, I guess that is to be expected. Fortunately there is an internet café across the street. I don’t know how much they charge there, but it must be much better than the 200 baht for 30 minutes rate. The TV looked like it was past its due date, bulky and only 20 inches. But at least the bathroom had a window wall and I could sit in the tub while watching TV. I watched soccer from the tub and rugby whilst taking a dump.

I was heading for Soi 12 (Darlings) as recommended. The hotel supposedly offers a free Tuk Tuk service to the Prompong BTS station. However when I asked reception, they said I had to book in advance, and the service runs every 30 minutes. The funny thing was that she said the next service will be at 3pm. I looked at the clock and it was 1:30pm. Never mind, I don’t mind walking. Yeah right. Took me 15 minutes to get to the BTS station, and being smart, I thought Soi 12 is only 6 streets away from Soi 24. It shouldn’t be too bad, well, it was! Soi 22 was like 3 whole blocks away (about 1 km). Anyway, by the time I get there, I was actually worried that I won’t have enough energy to have any fun at Darlings. Note to self: Next time pay the 15 baht and take the Skytrain, or pay the 50 baht or so for a taxi.

MASSAGE: Darlings (Soi 12, Sukhumvit)

I got there at about 2:20pm (note my starting time from the hotel). There were about 12 girls in the fishbowl. I seriously doubted the claim that they couldn’t see you. Maybe we should call the “mythbusters” to the fore. The papasan recommended a girl who was yawning and looking away. I am an okay looking guy, but I look Asian, and I tried to look local and poor. Maybe she wanted to save herself for the next sucker I suppose. There was one that smiled the whole time, so I picked her.

I get escorted to the room, the corridors look like they were from a horror movie. I was preparing myself for some maniac to jump out from one of the dark corners. The room had a nice bed and bath. Apart from what looked like high velocity blood spatter and a scene out of the “Vacancy”, it was borderline acceptable.

Took her about 5-10 minutes to fill the tub, she was very friendly, decent GFE. She had a few pounds too much around the waist. I tell you, the fish bowl window reduces a few pounds. Never mind, I like fat chicks anyway. NOT. The soapy massage was not nice at all. For some reason, my little general was standing straight. But when she rolled about, it felt like she was trying to break it. She gave a BBBJ that was teethy, and finished with a HJ like a 3000rpm piston.

Moved to the bed, surprisingly the Thai massage was not bad. After about 20 minutes of massaging, turned me around, same o same o. HJ, CBJ finish. Her head was bobbing so fast, it was making ME dizzy. I offered 200 in tips, she asked for 500. Final price was 400 baht. Sorry, I can’t stand a whining woman.

Lousy soapy massage, teethy BBBJ, decent Thai massage, forgettable 2nd shot – 2500b
Tips for a whiny undeserving fatty – 400b
Lessons learnt – priceless
There are some things money can’t buy, for everything else, there’s MasterCard (if you have good credit, and not when the lady asks for cash)

TIPS FOR OTHER NEWBIES:

1. Don’t try to look like a local – I thought I could pretend to be a local and get better service. Even though I am Asian and can look the part, I can’t talk or act like a Thai person. They will find out sooner or later. Better look like a rich bastard and have them try to persuade money off you, than look like a cheap bastard where they will just rush it and try to get the next sucker.

2. Always tell them you are in town for 2 weeks and you just got here – I was only in town for a day, and I told her that. Chances are she will try to rip me off since I would be gone and never come back anyway. If you tell her you’ll be here for a while, she will try to please you more in hope that you will return during your stay. She might let a small tip slide too.

3. If you’re like me and like your girls without much flab, try to pick the ones that actually stood up or walked around. If you could, ask the papasan to get the girls to stand up, maybe even make a full turn. These girls know how to pose, and they will show you their best assets from that angle. Wonder bra, hiding their tummies by sitting crossed legs, etc. these are just some of their tricks.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

AsiaTraveler2
09-17-07, 10:45
<Cut in several places - for brevity>
TAXI: OFFICIAL AIRPORT TAXI

Being the newbie to Suvarnabumi Airport, I saw some very well dressed people before getting out of the terminal. They were the official taxi providers. I thought, if the airport selected them, they must be trustworthy and offered a good deal. I was wrong. They charged me 1000b to get to the hotel whereas on my way back on a normal taxi, it was no more than 300b.

HOTEL: Davis Hotel (Soi 24, Sukhumvit)

Got all excited about getting a room at a 5-star hotel of only USD 80 a night.

I was heading for Soi 12 (Darlings) as recommended. Note to self: Next time pay the 15 baht and take the Skytrain, or pay the 50 baht or so for a taxi.

MASSAGE: Darlings (Soi 12, Sukhumvit)

I got there at about 2:20pm (note my starting time from the hotel). There were about 12 girls in the fishbowl. I seriously doubted the claim that they couldn’t see you. Maybe we should call the “mythbusters” to the fore. The papasan recommended a girl who was yawning and looking away. I am an okay looking guy, but I look Asian, and I tried to look local and poor. Maybe she wanted to save herself for the next sucker I suppose. There was one that smiled the whole time, so I picked her.

TIPS FOR OTHER NEWBIES:

1. Don’t try to look like a local – I thought I could pretend to be a local and get better service. Even though I am Asian and can look the part, I can’t talk or act like a Thai person. They will find out sooner or later. Better look like a rich bastard and have them try to persuade money off you, than look like a cheap bastard where they will just rush it and try to get the next sucker.



Japentii,

I hope you had a good time, although it seems that you made a lot of newbie mistakes that could have been avoided with some reading through the BKK threads. I hate the RTFF comments, but there are great benefits to be gained from reading through the threads. The taxi issue has been discussed over and over. You would also learn that there are better options for a hotel (closer to the action) for someone with limited time in LOS. With such a short time in BKK, I am surprised you did so much walking as opposed to taking a $1.00 taxi ride or the BTS.

Darlings would not be one of the Fishbowl setups I would visit. There are so many better options, such as Poseidon, Utopia, Nataree, etc. From Asok station, which is very close to where you were, it would be less than 30 minutes by the MRT subway to Huai Kwang station. Live and learn. I'm also not sure where you heard that they could not see you. Yes, they can see you.

I'm very surprised you thought you could pass as Thai. I'm Asian, and I can tell the difference between Japanese, Korean, Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese, etc. at first glance and can also tell you if they are US born or a national. There's a drastic difference. There's no way you could "blend in". Sorry dude .. not happening.

Hey, I hope you had a great time though. Don't wanna sound like I trying to come down on you too hard. Mistakes can be part of the fun and your post may help other newbies. Just be sure to add in you next reviews to read through the threads! It makes all the difference!

Peace,
AT2

Dreams
09-17-07, 10:46
Some German FKKs, the clubs have very small rooms with only curtains on the doors. Sneeking a peak at others fucking is common. After a while you get used to it, so then getting a blowjob in a Soi Cowboy bar with others watching becomes no big deal.

In fact, in the "kino" of FKKs, most girls give BBjs in front of everyone else, and in some cases, if the guy wants it, FS takes place in view of all. Also, when all rooms are full, at the Palace in Frankfurt, there is a socalled VIP room with 5-6 sofas, with couples fucking in all positions. So yes, for those of us used to FKKs, a BJ in public at AfterSkool is not a big deal...

AsiaTraveler2
09-17-07, 10:52
AT2, I do not want to take this forever, and also do not want to be taken as a flamer.

I myself have put questions, but mainly to get updates and/or I did not get he clear picture from past history.
Q&A are of course an essential part of this forum, just as the reports are.
but coming up qith a questionnaire with that type of questions, really seemed to me lazy and over the border.

I do agree with your same feelings about the purpose of the Forum, but the way the questions were 'listed' sounded to me like the guy did not spend or tried not to spend a couple of hours in RTFF, browsing through the thread history.
This was the reason of my irony, nothing else.

Have fun!

Bionicman,

Understood. Like I said, I did feel that way before. People who don't read the threads short change and only hurt themselves. I figure, help them with their question, and move on.

Peace,
AT2

AsiaTraveler2
09-17-07, 11:10
I had a chance to visit Ogoto massage. As others mentioned and as I found out first hand, it can be a bit difficult to find. Like all BKK Soi's, the maps don't always line up exactly as shown. I attached a basic map below, but give some leeway. It's tucked away, like so many of these massage places are, in a little lane. Get off at Saladeng BTS on the Silom line and head to Saladeng road. Easy to remember.

They had 5 girls available, when I went in. The choice was easy for me. Donut was easily the most attractive in the group. I selected the 90 minute Fantasy Body course (If I recall correctly) which included the oil massage, body to body and fs finish. Very nice. A bit pricey at 2,600, but comparable to what you would pay at a soapy and a good experience. The massage was ok, but not the highlight. She's supposedly new, so not sure what kind of training they have. For a real massage, go elsewhere.

Bring your own condoms and remember that oil and condoms don't mix. Condoms will just disintegrate.

http://ogotomassage.client.jp/lady.htm

My thanks to those that reviewed the place a few months ago.

AT2

Jungle Bluebird
09-17-07, 11:35
AT

Yes Japentii's experience sounds a bit rough to say the least. Fact is this city is a shithole. It's easy to put oneself in a fix. It also does not help to try to save a few THB. The streets are a killer and best is to stay in air-condition environments all the time.

Here are some tips, general ones which may help to avoid bad experiences.

Traffic: Take a hotel close to the BTS!!!!! Traffic sucks big time in BKK, forget walking so it's better to spend a few THB more and get a decent hotel. For THB 2-3,000 one can find a 4 star property close to the BTS (max 50 meters walking distance).

Heavy traffic all week, particularly AM and PM. Saturdays also are a bummer - afternoons. Anything on Sukh. is snails pace.

Girls/services: My suggestion is to order room service. It's convenient and clean cut. No B/S. Call a MP and start with a 2 hour massage (ample MP are recommended here). Evenings traffic is light (light for BKK standards). Ample beer bars etc listed in this forum. Pending on mood, personal form and desire, ALL is available in Bangkok. My tip, always book in advance. Do your homework!

For those with a bit of cash: 2 hour afternoon massage room service (with BJ). Evening escort service, 2 girls. Total damage around @ 10,000 THB and the experience of a life time.

But of course, one can always go out and rough it :-)

Final word: In Bangkok never ever rush it and don't be greedy.

JB



Japentii,

I hope you had a good time, although it seems that you made a lot of newbie mistakes that could have been avoided with some reading through the BKK threads. I hate the RTFF comments, but there are great benefits to be gained from reading through the threads. The taxi issue has been discussed over and over. You would also learn that there are better options for a hotel (closer to the action) for someone with limited time in LOS. With such a short time in BKK, I am surprised you did so much walking as opposed to taking a $1.00 taxi ride or the BTS.

Darlings would not be one of the Fishbowl setups I would visit. There are so many better options, such as Poseidon, Utopia, Nataree, etc. Live and learn. I'm not sure where you heard that they could not see you. Yes, they can see you.

I'm very surprised you thought you could pass as Thai. I'm Asian, and I can tell the difference between Japanese, Korean, Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese, etc. at first glance and can also tell you if they are US born or natives. There's a drastic difference. There's no way you could "blend in". Sorry dude .. not happening.

Hey, I hope you had a great time though. Don't wanna sound like I trying to come down on you too hard. Mistakes can be part of the fun and your post may help other newbies. Just be sure to add in you next reviews to read through the threads! It makes all the difference!

Peace,
AT2

AsiaTraveler2
09-17-07, 12:05
AT

Yes Japentii's experience sounds a bit rough to say the least. Fact is this city is a shithole. It's easy to put oneself in a fix. It also does not help to try to save a few THB. The streets are a killer and best is to stay in a air-condition environments all the time.



JB,

I hear you. I remember doing some homework way back when, but unfortunately did not have the ISG as a guide back then. Made a ton of mistakes and learned a lot the hard way. Same way with Japan, Korea, China, Hong Kong, the PI, etc. Man, I still remember all the feelings and the "I can't believe that just happened" moments.

That's why I try to help when I can. No matter what, some mistakes will be made. Just the nature of the beast! LOL!

AT2

Escort Fan
09-17-07, 12:27
Today I have visited the ring, next to Eden.

Just like Eden the room are a bit opressing. Quite tiny, and no windows. It's even smaller than at Eden, the room I was offered was hardly 6 sq meters, and had a single bed.

One thing I liked about the Ring is that the girl carries name tags instead of numbers.

The girl I picked, was OK, she was participating. However the massage was endless. And not so great.

The sex part was good, the intercourse started just after some nice body body action. (No BJ).

Overall I would recommand The Ring (Soi 7/1) (next to eden) because the girls seems good, however I would recommand it for an outcall, because the incall facilities are rather poor.

Price was 1500 baths for ST for 1 girl.

Pradel
09-17-07, 15:13
On my next trip to BKK, I would like to try the 2 girls option at Annie's.

Do you try it before ? Can you tell me how is works and how it is?

Thanks a lot.

NicFrenchy
09-18-07, 09:01
On my next trip to BKK, I would like to try the 2 girls option at Annie's.

Do you try it before ? Can you tell me how is works and how it is?

Thanks a lot.Pradel,

I have never tried the 2 girls option at Annies. It really depends of what you are looking for in terms of Degree of service.

If you want a Full on Lesbian experience, with Dildos and the whole works then The Eden club is the best place for you.

There is also another club specialised in "duos" called Bangkok Sisters in PatpongII (you will find them if you search the forum).

In my opinion, going to Massage parlors to take 2 girls is not the best option because the girls might not be working well together, sometimes even refusing to do Lesbian action.

Your Annies experience would yield better results if you have a 1 on 1 GFE session rather than a 2 girl Sandwich.

This is, of course, only my humble personal opinion.

NicFrenchy
09-18-07, 10:33
Pumped up by the recent talks about Thonglor Massage (I & II) and considering my state of constant hornyness, I found myself there last week (Saturday).

First visited the Soi 26 Branch and looking at the ladies book, none really did it for me.

Actually, the Mamasan (young girl, great breasts) was cuter than any of the ladies on offer. I smiled and asked her where her picture was because I must have missed it, to what she replied “I mamasan, cannot do massage, I don’t know how to do it” and I said “No problem, I massage you instead”. She smiled and I smiled and told me that I am Hansum man but she cannot do. She pointed to the other book (Soi 24 ladies) and added that I could choose these ladies and they would be coming over in less than 10 minutes.

I looked at her, told her I would go there myself and that it is a pity she does not massage because she is beautiful. She blushed, waied me and asked me to come again.

Surprisingly, I made it to thonglor II (soi 24) without being distracted (knowing all the other places available on the way).

Great Welcome, as always, was asked to sit, taken my shoes off, offered a beverage and the ladies book. Mamasan came to sit beside me and tried to hard sell a couple ladies (which I did not care for). I flipped through the book 3 times and finally picked Au http://www.thonglormassage.com/Au.html

She comes out to greet me and escort me up to the room. I undress and go to shower right away while she goes get the box (I was hot and the shower cooled me a little). She came back and handed me the Soap and Listerine. As I was starting to apply the soap, I heard her join me in the shower, she was butt naked. This is the first time that I have a girl join me in the shower (without me asking) and naked! Great surprise and I was already starting to believe that she would offer more than a HJ LOL.

She cleaned me everywhere and then cleaned herself.

As I booked 1 hour, she took her time and gave me a Great massage for 30 minutes, once I flipped over, she massaged my legs and then went right up to my balls. She massaged them a little bit until I was hard and then stroked (HJ) gently, swallowing one of my balls. It all felt great and she was nicely licking my dick and balls until she took out the condom and proceeded to a CBJ.

The FS was below average, she applied a lot of KY and started Cowgirl. Moved to Mish for a while and I asked her to Flip to Doggy. She pretended not to understand and offered to take the condom off and finish HJ. I objected and told her to get into Doggy, she still did not bulge and offered HJ again. I smiled and said ok, HJ finish but only 500thb. She quickly got the message and jumped on all fours (doggy position). I pounded her hard (to punish her) and finally came in that position.

(Actually, the actual exchange was not as bad as it sounds, I was always cool & smiling during the negotiation and she got the message that I was not going to fall for her crap offer).

Showered together again and she gave me a HJ in the shower (for a few minutes) apologizing about the earlier incident. I smiled and told her “Mai Pen Rai”, she got all happy again and hugged me. I paid her 1,500 and left.

I will continue to go to Thonglor II because I like the facilities and the massage, but I will not take Miss Au again.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Aey Annies
09-18-07, 11:58
On my next trip to BKK, I would like to try the 2 girls option at Annie's.

Do you try it before ? Can you tell me how is works and how it is ?

Thanks a lot.Check out our web site, look at our ladies. Email us through the web site which ladies you like the look of. Confirm any service requimetns and we will make sure all is ready for you when you arrive.

Or just come in and have a talk with us over a beer or 2.

We are here to help.

Aey

Bluegreen
09-18-07, 13:00
Soi33, side-street opposite Novotel, "Jack & Betty's" (or something similar; distinctive red & black sign)

Was hoing for just a proper massage & didn't know which type of place this was until 6-7 girls lined up on the sofa as I checked the massage price list. I hate choosing face-to-face so gave only the quickest glance & picked the one on the end - one of maybe two 6/7's.

"Nid", 25ish, 5'3, very cute. Lovely soft full-B cups, hint of a belly (I find most Thai girls look fitter in clothes, even when they're not actually fat at all; but that womanly shape is also attractive & somewhat reassuring).

Looks like I struck lucky here. Very friendly & affectionate girl. No actual FK and nothing unusual ventured, but otherwise a virtual GFE. Also gave a very nice long (if unskilled) massage beforehand. I will definitely return, and try to negotiate a more private LT meeting. Damage: 600B for 1.5hr oil massage + 1500 for 'special service'. Forgot to ask & was only told price at end, but quite happy with the outcome - I'd pay the same again for her in an instant.

Gemstone
09-18-07, 21:54
Soi33, side-street opposite Novotel, "Jack & Betty's" (or something similar; distinctive red & black sign)

Was hoing for just a proper massage & didn't know which type of place this was until 6-7 girls lined up on the sofa as I checked the massage price list. I hate choosing face-to-face so gave only the quickest glance & picked the one on the end - one of maybe two 6/7's.

"Nid", 25ish, 5'3, very cute. Lovely soft full-B cups, hint of a belly (I find most Thai girls look fitter in clothes, even when they're not actually fat at all; but that womanly shape is also attractive & somewhat reassuring).

Looks like I struck lucky here. Very friendly & affectionate girl. No actual FK and nothing unusual ventured, but otherwise a virtual GFE. Also gave a very nice long (if unskilled) massage beforehand. I will definitely return, and try to negotiate a more private LT meeting. Damage: 600B for 1.5hr oil massage + 1500 for 'special service'. Forgot to ask & was only told price at end, but quite happy with the outcome - I'd pay the same again for her in an instant.Thanks Bluegreen for the short report. I saw this place and also their website, but never know the services and the cleaniness of the place. next time know where to go since I'm disappointed with Teen 1/2/3

Gemstone
09-18-07, 22:24
Visited Teen again 2 weeks ago while on short holiday in Bangkok. Wanted to visit the last girl that provide good service before, but upon reaching Teen 1, discover a lot of girls was not working. Those listed on websites, many are not working, and selection is poor. Attitude of staff is also bad.

Turn around and head for Teen 3, next door, staff was rude and refuse to let me view the girls (first time happen after 7-8 visit). Walk off.

At this point, was not sure where I should head off, despite reading some reviews of Angel, decided to drop by Teen2. By the time I walk there, I was exhausted and the weather was very hot. Counter staff this time was smiling and I pick one of the girl. Off we went and in the room, the service was very bad. Apparently lack of training and pretending. Was very disappointed and she kept telling me my time was up which clearly was not.

As a regular to Teen 1/3 for 3 years, notice the service and quality has been dropping. Patrons should avoid this joint if possible. Will reconsider if I will ever return. Sadly, I have one of the best visit in Teen. Its a hit or miss place in massage.

Harley753
09-19-07, 02:09
I get to Bangkok every couple of months and in general have so many things to do, I just never make it to the massage parlors. However, it was mid week and my traveling buddies had selected companions for the afternoon from BG7 and I was a man with some time and no plan. So I decided to visit Annies’. I had been there several years ago and while my memory is not what it once was it seemed like it was fun and I would give it another try. I had visited a few months ago and the selection was limited and no one really caught my attention so I had left without a massage.

I was staying at the Nana – I really like this hotel, it does not pretend to be anything other that what it is – a place for the punter to rest, a pretty good breakfast and no walk of shame. I only bring this up as it sort of sets the bar for my expectations on facilities and will help to illustrate my findings at Annie’s.

Back to my afternoon adventure, it was 4pm and I walked from the Nana over to Annies, a fellow punter was just 10 meters ahead of me as I started up the stairs. While he was Asian looking we did not speak and he could have been American, or anything else but the mamason grabbed him as soon as he entered and took him to the window to get the best look of the girls behind the window. As I walked in an older girl that was dressed like one of the "girls" grabbed me and asked me to sit in a chair to get the best look. I noticed it was white day as all of the girls were dressed in white.

As I sit there I have the pleasure of viewing about 15 ladies of varying ages, shapes and sizes. I have a few rules in selecting a companion, they must be better looking than me, well, I guess I only have one rule. I think the girls ranged from a 5 to an 8 which all are all better looking than me and so no real problem to find someone to spend the next 90 min with. Within a couple of min I select number 24, her photo is on the web site, and the lady that is helping me, tells me to pay 1500, calls her and off we go, I leave the Asian guy in my dust.

She is cute and tiny and we go to the first room on the right. In the room I get a water for me and a coke for her at a total of 140 bhat. She comes back and strips and OMG she has the perfect ass – a butt that is pear shape and takes my breath away – I need to change topics as I am finding it hard to concentrate with the vision of her ass consuming all of my grey matter –

The details are pretty standard, there was never any attempt to do a massage of any form and I was OK with this, because number 24 (Wan), likes to talk and so for the next 90 min I have a willing, beautiful and engaging partner. I have a great time and need to wrap it up in 90 min to meet up with my friends. Wan walks me out and on the way out Aey asks how was my time and next time she will give me 2hr at the same price. I had a great time, the facilities where old but seemed clean, the sheets were old but clean, sort of in the Nana standard. Total damage was 1500 for the time, 140 for drinks, 40 for the room tip and a tip for Wan.

A few days later, it is my last day in Bangkok and I decide to visit number 24 again. This time it is 11am and as I walk in the girls are all over as the place is just opening and I ask for 24 and from behind me a cute little lady puts her arms around me and says Hi – I pay the 1500 and off we go. I have a great time again and 2. 5 hours later I need to leave to catch my plan. Again I had a great time.

Aey I hope you will pass my thanks along to Wa.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Jungle Bluebird
09-19-07, 05:07
Nic, yes after all the Thonglor talk, also found myself at Thonglor Massage (Soi 24) on Saturday.

2 hours oil. 2 girls. Lisa and Rin.

Seems the girls don't do doubles a lot. Loads of giggling. Very sweet. 2 girls in the shower, but gave them some time to adjust.

After the shower time to move on to the bed. Face down, girls sitting on each side, a bit of massage. Figured I let the anticipation built up a little. After 20 minutes time to take charge.

Directed Rin to proceed to a BBBJ, while fingering Lisa. First candidate for FS was Rin. Doggy style while (still) fingering Lisa. Change of condom, now it's Lisa's turn. At this point both are really into it, so loads of kissing and moaning. Change to missionary and I finish off with Rin giving me a HJ to finally unload all over Lisas boobs. So sweet her worrying about me off loading in her face. But hey, I am a considerate guy.

First break, shower again. This time more kissing and playing in the shower.

After the shower I just lie there, on my back, 1 girl on each side. I am playing and kissing their boobs and can't stop smiling. Enjoy their curves and soon enough start fingering them both.

Second round. I start with Rin again, Lisa rimming me at the same time. I finish off doggy style with Rin. Shower again.

Third round. This time its Lisa all the way, while Rin is playing extensively with herself. Nothing wrong with a bit of visual stimulation.

All action completed within the allocated 2 hour time frame I walk down arm in arm with both girls, still smiling. Japanese clients in the lobby look at me with big eyes. Oh well.

Experience: 10 out of 10
Damage: THB 1,600 massage
Girls: each THB 2,000 (includes tip)
Total: THB 5,600.

JB



Pumped up by the recent talks about Thonglor Massage (I & II) and considering my state of constant hornyness, I found myself there last week (Saturday).

NicFrenchy
09-21-07, 07:50
JB,

Wow. Now that is one Hell of a great Report.

I think I will try out the duos there.

How did you pick the girls? did you ask the mamasan? Or did you just take a lucky shot?

Jungle Bluebird
09-23-07, 07:12
Nic, you’ve been in Bangkok long enough to know how to avoid potential disaster. Suggest you start with your favorite and take it from there. Just ask her next time whether she likes to share with a 'friend'. Also found – in general - girls are usually happy to recommend other girls. They know that we get bored quickly :-)

Originally the deal should have been THB 1,000 less. There was some confusion with the billing at the end. I learned later, the girls suppose to get THB 1,500 each for FS. So the extra THB 500 each were tip. But what the heck. It was well worth it and surely will do it again.

JB



JB,

Wow. Now that is one Hell of a great Report.

I think I will try out the duos there.

How did you pick the girls? did you ask the mamasan? Or did you just take a lucky shot?

Undercoverh
09-23-07, 17:07
I get to Bangkok every couple of months and in general have so many things to do, I just never make it to the massage parlors. However, it was mid week and my traveling buddies had selected companions for the afternoon from BG7 and I was a man with some time and no plan. So I decided to visit Annies’. I had been there several years ago and while my memory is not what it once was it seemed like it was fun and I would give it another try. I had visited a few months ago and the selection was limited and no one really caught my attention so I had left without a massage.

I was staying at the Nana – I really like this hotel, it does not pretend to be anything other that what it is – a place for the punter to rest, a pretty good breakfast and no walk of shame. I only bring this up as it sort of sets the bar for my expectations on facilities and will help to illustrate my findings at Annie’s.

Back to my afternoon adventure, it was 4pm and I walked from the Nana over to Annies, a fellow punter was just 10 meters ahead of me as I started up the stairs. While he was Asian looking we did not speak and he could have been American, or anything else but the mamason grabbed him as soon as he entered and took him to the window to get the best look of the girls behind the window. As I walked in an older girl that was dressed like one of the "girls" grabbed me and asked me to sit in a chair to get the best look. I noticed it was white day as all of the girls were dressed in white.

As I sit there I have the pleasure of viewing about 15 ladies of varying ages, shapes and sizes. I have a few rules in selecting a companion, they must be better looking than me, well, I guess I only have one rule. I think the girls ranged from a 5 to an 8 which all are all better looking than me and so no real problem to find someone to spend the next 90 min with. Within a couple of min I select number 24, her photo is on the web site, and the lady that is helping me, tells me to pay 1500, calls her and off we go, I leave the Asian guy in my dust.

She is cute and tiny and we go to the first room on the right. In the room I get a water for me and a coke for her at a total of 140 bhat. She comes back and strips and OMG she has the perfect ass – a butt that is pear shape and takes my breath away – I need to change topics as I am finding it hard to concentrate with the vision of her ass consuming all of my grey matter –

The details are pretty standard, there was never any attempt to do a massage of any form and I was OK with this, because number 24 (Wan), likes to talk and so for the next 90 min I have a willing, beautiful and engaging partner. I have a great time and need to wrap it up in 90 min to meet up with my friends. Wan walks me out and on the way out Aey asks how was my time and next time she will give me 2hr at the same price. I had a great time, the facilities where old but seemed clean, the sheets were old but clean, sort of in the Nana standard. Total damage was 1500 for the time, 140 for drinks, 40 for the room tip and a tip for Wan.

A few days later, it is my last day in Bangkok and I decide to visit number 24 again. This time it is 11am and as I walk in the girls are all over as the place is just opening and I ask for 24 and from behind me a cute little lady puts her arms around me and says Hi – I pay the 1500 and off we go. I have a great time again and 2. 5 hours later I need to leave to catch my plan. Again I had a great time.

Aey I hope you will pass my thanks along to Wa.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Great report! Wow, reading your report makes me miss going to Annie's. I stopped going there a few years back because the rooms were old and the women were 30+, but the service was always good. Back then, the girls dressed however they wanted and there was not a set price of 1,500. After reading your report and seeing the website for Annie's, I will stop by again when I am in Bangkok later this year!

LittleBigMan
09-24-07, 06:38
Aey Annies,

I tried to send you a PM, but I was unable so I will post here and if you have a answer you can PM me back.

A few years ago I visited your business and while I was having a beer I met a lady that was a friend of yours that also worked the fishbowl. At the time we met she was waiting for a farang that had barfine her but there was enough time for us to spend a short time together. She was very pretty, somewhat of a stunner that pull her hair back and tied it into a ponytail. Several months later I visited again and once again she was in jeans and seem to be helping you around the bar. She indicated to me that she had just return from the country down under Aussie and wasn't working but just helping you out! She pointed out to me that you both were friends and showed be several picture of you two behind the bar! Again I spend sometime with her prior to returning to the U.S.

Is this your friend? and if so how is she doing?

LBM

Lover Boy #2
09-24-07, 07:10
You can not be immunized from HepB.

So only condom can help Bj with comdom is not me hottes dream.Wrong. C is the one with no vac.

ArchieLeach
09-24-07, 09:14
OK, I've been doing a lot of reading but now I have what seems to be a basic question:

Poseidon and Caesars (and any others in this category). I thought I knew the routine, but now I'm confused. I thought you go in and pick a girl and the price is based on her "Category" (regular, sideline, model etc). And that's it.

But I was looking on Caesar's website and the prices were listed for the Suites.

So is Poseidon based on the girl with the rooms being basically the same price, and Caesars based on the room with all the girls being the same price?

Or are there two prices; one for the room and one for the girl?

I've never seen that discussed here so it doesn't sound right.

And another thing: Is it just me or are the rooms at Caesars way better than at Poseidon? Or is that just the website? Because on the website they looked AMAZING.

I would appreciate clarification. And any thoughts on similar issues at similar places would be appreciated as well.

I'd really like to go to Suite 7 at Caesars for a few hours with one of their girls, but I'm wondering if it's going to cost me 5000-6000B for the suite plus 5000B or so for the girl. If so, no wonder it's so much nicer than Poseidon, it's way more expensive. I've always heard people talk about them in the same breath as if they were similar, so I'm confused.

Thanks, Archie (14 days until departure, YEAH!)

Aey Annies
09-24-07, 18:33
Aey Annies,

I tried to send you a PM, but I was unable so I will post here and if you have a answer you can PM me back.

A few years ago I visited your business and while I was having a beer I met a lady that was a friend of yours that also worked the fishbowl. At the time we met she was waiting for a farang that had barfine her but there was enough time for us to spend a short time together. She was very pretty, somewhat of a stunner that pull her hair back and tied it into a ponytail. Several months later I visited again and once again she was in jeans and seem to be helping you around the bar. She indicated to me that she had just return from the country down under Aussie and wasn't working but just helping you out! She pointed out to me that you both were friends and showed be several picture of you two behind the bar! Again I spend sometime with her prior to returning to the U.S.

Is this your friend? and if so how is she doing?

LBMI am not sure from your description, could be one of a few girls, if you can not PM me through this forum then email me direct through the web site and I will try and answer your question if you can describe her more for me.

Thanks Aey

Bluegreen
09-25-07, 06:02
Jack & Betty's, off Soi 33 opp. Novotel.

"Pookie", 30, 5'6" (tall for a Thai), slim-ish, B cup. Chinese-looking, pretty smile (lips closed) typically odd Thai teeth when open - strangely offset canines in this case. Sweet girl though, and a nice body & bum; which is not as common as you'd think. Gives a really good / relaxing oil massage (400/1hr); nothing hurt for a change. 1500 for FJ: nice, easily pleased and tries to please in return (excellent HJ), but not over-affectionate in a GF way. I'd probably stick with "Nid" who was out when I stopped by, but if just wanting a really nice average-priced massage then I'd be happy to pick "Pookie" again.

Almotu
09-26-07, 02:27
Anyone had any experience with "Infinity JC Patpong" Massage?
http://www.24bkk.com/index.php?g_id=10&area_id=2&info_id=25

LittleBigMan
09-26-07, 09:40
Aey Annies,

You are indicated that you do not receive private message thru ISG, I saw your response and check Annies website and tried the Contact Us. maybe it was the computer that I was using at the internet shop but it wouldn't allow me to make contact so here I am again.

I believe the lady name was Tat, spoke very good English and this is my opinion based on a number of visits to your place throughout the years.

When I met her I was waiting for a friend at the bar talking with you, she walked by and said hello in English and I was attracted to her right away because she was by far the best looking lady I have seen at your place. She appeared to come and go around the bar as she was working behind the bar instead of the fishbowl. Does that ring a bell?

LBM

NicFrenchy
09-26-07, 10:16
LBM,

The problem comes from you.

I have emailed Annies several times, and the latest one was last Saturday.

Always got a response within a few hours.

AEY and GUNG were both very professional and helpful via email.

Jungle Bluebird
09-26-07, 10:57
Sorry, Aey Annies seems to be a regular member. As such - as far as I understand - private messaging is not available.

Not sure why someone would promote his/her MP's but not financially support the forum.

But pls correct me if I am wrong here with regard to levels of membership.

JB



Aey Annies,

You are indicated that you do not receive private message thru ISG....

LBM

Member #4167
09-26-07, 15:33
Is swallowing the norm in Thailand ?

What pct of the time will they swallow (if given a tip?)

Inquiring monger wants to know!

Thanks

Bandy
09-26-07, 19:20
Fellow mongers:

I have not been to LOS for a few years. All my trips, I used to start at J-1. I knew a papasan, used to tip him 100 B and 1500 B for the fishbowl girls and 1800 B for the sideliners. Because I knew the papa the girls used to provide super service. Don't hear this place being mentioned at all these days. I had been to many MPs, including Nataree, Poseidon, Poseidon Model lounge etc. But I always had the best experience at J-1. I will be in LOS in the middle of October. Any update on J-1 will be greatly appreciated.

I never took a taxi there. Used the Phya Thai station of BTS. You will see Florida hotel when you get out. J-1 management does pay to the taxi drivers and you essentially pay double for the same girl.

Bandy

Some American
09-26-07, 19:29
Is swallowing the norm in Thailand ?

What pct of the time will they swallow (if given a tip?)

Inquiring monger wants to know!

ThanksI don't think so, but they will do it at Eden for sure, and for a price I'm sure that others will do it, too. I've had any number for Thai gals discreetly spit after the act, and that doesn't bother me a bit.

Retep1
09-26-07, 20:59
What is the nearest subway station of to Tarvadee Reesort and Spa.

Thanks in advance

Allover
09-26-07, 22:57
Could someone help me find Colonze 2 and Utopia? If there are hotels nearby, I would prefer to taxi to a nearby hotel to save the taxi's commission. I've read good reports here about these two places over the past six months.

I visited Caeser's tonite. Was quoted B3500 for fishbowl and B4500 for models. The models were stunning but I didn't want to pay that much. I am guessing they jacked the price up for me since I was a newbie there. I also visited Emanuelle, Nataree, and Hi-Class. Hi-Class and Emmanualle had very few girls at 7PM. I have been disappointed by their last of selection over the past few trips. Nataree had the usual good choice and I spent B2000 on a fishbowl girl. I thought the rate was B1800 but they wouldn't give me that rate. I don't really like Nataree but their pricing and selection has been good during the past few years. I am hoping Colonze 2 and Utopia (and maybe LaDefense) will be better.


Bandy: J-One hasn't had many good looking girls for the past few years. Also, it had the reputation of being a tourist trap favored by tuk tuks. Many of us stopped going there. I always liked Chao Phaya 2 across the road better, but I haven't been there in years. Mona Lisa has also been a favorite but I haven't been there for years. Has anybody been to Mona Lisa lately?

Traveler1234
09-27-07, 01:23
Could someone help me find Colonze 2 and Utopia? If there are hotels nearby, I would prefer to taxi to a nearby hotel to save the taxi's commission. I am hoping Colonze 2 and Utopia (and maybe LaDefense) will be better.

Not sure if Colonze or Colonze 2 but Rama IX Rd, opp Radisson Hotel

M P Lurker
09-27-07, 10:22
Is swallowing the norm in Thailand ?

What pct of the time will they swallow (if given a tip?)

Inquiring monger wants to know!

Thanks
What the hell does it matter? Why not drink it yourself?

Is it a turn on to force girls to do things that they don't want to do????

M P Lurker
09-27-07, 10:25
What is the nearest subway station of to Tarvadee Reesort and Spa.

Thanks in advance
Phra Rama IX (9) MRT station is probably the nearest but not very close. Its still a good taxi ride from there.
I assue we are refering to Tarawadee (Taravadee)

M P Lurker
09-27-07, 10:32
Fellow mongers:

I have not been to LOS for a few years. All my trips, I used to start at J-1. I knew a papasan, used to tip him 100 B and 1500 B for the fishbowl girls and 1800 B for the sideliners. Because I knew the papa the girls used to provide super service. Don't hear this place being mentioned at all these days. I had been to many MPs, including Nataree, Poseidon, Poseidon Model lounge etc. But I always had the best experience at J-1. I will be in LOS in the middle of October. Any update on J-1 will be greatly appreciated.

I never took a taxi there. Used the Phya Thai station of BTS. You will see Florida hotel when you get out. J-1 management does pay to the taxi drivers and you essentially pay double for the same girl.

Bandy

I went there at end of last year but the girls were not very special.
CP2 has also deteriorated a lot in recent years in my opinion.

Its probably because they used to have a lot of girls that did not have valid Id in the old days, and these all got flushed out leaving older girls.

AsiaTraveler2
09-27-07, 10:48
Could someone help me find Colonze 2 and Utopia? If there are hotels nearby, I would prefer to taxi to a nearby hotel to save the taxi's commission. I've read good reports here about these two places over the past six months.

I visited Caeser's tonite. Was quoted B3500 for fishbowl and B4500 for models. The models were stunning but I didn't want to pay that much. I am guessing they jacked the price up for me since I was a newbie there. I also visited Emanuelle, Nataree, and Hi-Class. Hi-Class and Emmanualle had very few girls at 7PM. I have been disappointed by their last of selection over the past few trips. Nataree had the usual good choice and I spent B2000 on a fishbowl girl. I thought the rate was B1800 but they wouldn't give me that rate. I don't really like Nataree but their pricing and selection has been good during the past few years. I am hoping Colonze 2 and Utopia (and maybe LaDefense) will be better.



Allover,

I don't think either Colonze 2 or Utopia pay the drivers, so you can take the taxi direct. I know I have taken the taxi to both and have not been charged extra (No taxi commission added). In fact, the drivers left directly after dropping me off. Colonze 2 is on a Soi just off Ratchadapisek. The easiest way to get to Utopia is take the Subway to Huai Kwang station or Thai Cultural Center stop and take a cab from there. About 5-10 minute drive. It's hard to find and a long walk from either station.

Utopia has a much larger selection (50+ girls), but like Poseidon, Caesars, etc. it is more pricey than Nataree. Colonze 2 has a smaller selection, but is good value. You may see only 5 to 10 girls, during certain times. I enjoy Colonze 2, but I think Nataree has a much larger selection. The rates quoted to you by Caesars was not jacked up for you. It's the going rates. In the larger Soapy Massage joints, the models range from 3,500 up to 5,500 baht. The most expensive Utopia girl was 5,500.

I think they all have their good points. Most of the Soapy joints have a set price and standard rooms, but also have VIP type rooms, that you pay extra for. Even Colonze 2 has a Suite setup. I have never been to any of the Suites. Not sure if it's worth it, since the regular rooms are nice enough.

Have fun!
AT2

Retired Army
09-27-07, 14:39
Is swallowing the norm in Thailand ?

What pct of the time will they swallow (if given a tip?)

Inquiring monger wants to know!

Thanks

Most girls won't swallow, but some others will if you are a regular customer and they want to keep you around.

Aey Annies
09-27-07, 14:40
Not sure why someone would promote his/her MP's but not financially support the forum.

JBWhat I have been doing so far is replying to questions and trying to keep respective members of this forum informed as much as possible whilst learning myself ways of improving our business for the forum readers when they visit us. This is done through me reading the constructive criticism on this site, it is a great way for us to grow. No promoting so far.

In this case if I do pay the members fee would this mean that I could bypass the forum rules and promote my business with links to my website and advise of special events that we are doing etc etc.

If this is true then please can the forum owners confirm this as this seems like a good deal to me.

Thanks for the comment Nic we do try to be as fast as we can with emails.

Thanks Aey

Ralph Kramden
09-27-07, 14:41
My experience at Nataree is that they have 2 rates for fishbowel girls, 1800 and 2200. If you get quoted 2000 for all the girls, then you are not being ripped off. Or if you get quoted 2000 for one particular girl, then that is also not a rip off in my opinion, because she may be on the new side and may be reduced to the 1800 rate when her newness wears off. There is a pretty good chance the papa will tell you the truth if you ask.

I found Colonze 2 by accident one time. Exit the BTS at Thai Cultural Center on the Emerald Hotel/Carrefour side, then walk back towards Sukhumvit Road for about 5 to 10 minutes. You will see it on your right just off the road. The outside of the building is very tall and prominent. I have visited Colonze 2 a couple of times but was never very impressed with the selection

Want to avoid a taxi from almost any exit of the BTS......use a motorcycle for a very short trip to Colonze 2 or Utopia for about 20 to 40 Baht.

I appreciate all the mongering reports about Utopia because I have never been there, and will be sure to do so this cumming December. Naturally I will return to my all time favorite, Nataree.

Russell Crowe
09-27-07, 16:48
I have been living in Thailand for about three months now. I have been to probably four or five soapy places (Darlings, Poseidon, Annies...and a few others). I can honestly say that I have been disappointed almost every time. I think my sample size is big enough to see a trend that the service is not near what I have received at an oily place. Am I missing something? I like the idea of a soapy,that is why I keep banging my head against the wall and trying again and again. But I think I have finally reached my stopping point after one more disappointing experience at Poseidon. She seemed rather bubbly and cute in the elevator and even in the room, but then proceeded to just lie there and fake orgasm until I finally gave up and finished. They have mostly just been rather cold and not even willing to fake it to help along the situation. She offered to cut my toe nails and I will say that was the best part of the experience.

Can someone convince me that there is something good to be had at a soapy? I am Caucasian, so perhaps that has something to do with it. My attitude and appearance are pretty normal and I am always nice.

RC

Undercoverh
09-28-07, 02:32
I have been living in Thailand for about three months now. I have been to probably four or five soapy places (Darlings, Poseidon, Annies...and a few others). I can honestly say that I have been disappointed almost every time. I think my sample size is big enough to see a trend that the service is not near what I have received at an oily place. Am I missing something? I like the idea of a soapy,that is why I keep banging my head against the wall and trying again and again. But I think I have finally reached my stopping point after one more disappointing experience at Poseidon. She seemed rather bubbly and cute in the elevator and even in the room, but then proceeded to just lie there and fake orgasm until I finally gave up and finished. They have mostly just been rather cold and not even willing to fake it to help along the situation. She offered to cut my toe nails and I will say that was the best part of the experience.

Can someone convince me that there is something good to be had at a soapy? I am Caucasian, so perhaps that has something to do with it. My attitude and appearance are pretty normal and I am always nice.

RC

I have been going to Thailand for the past 12 years (now I live in Hong Kong) and I have tried tons of MPs in Thailand over the years. To respond to your question, based on my experience, I would say that first I don't like Darlings, Poseidon, and Annies. Darlings is not about service and it is overpriced. Poseidon has an extra 500 charge for non-Thai, the hell with that, and Annies girls are the bottom of the food chain (this is why they charge only 1,500 for 2 hours). Therefore, I would say that this is the first problem, the MPs you have been going to are not the best.

Here are the MPs I have been going to for years and I am satisfied about 80% of the time. Mirage, Nataree, and Colozone 2, all on Ratchadapisek road near the Emerald Hotel. Sometimes I have luck at Copa Cabana and Caesars. 80% satisfaction rate is pretty good considering what we are asking these girls to do.

Also, I let the MP girl pick me, I do not pick them. What I mean by this is, when I walk into a MP, I take my time, relax and see which girl is looking at me. If she has a nice smile and she keeps looking at me, she is my pick. I will never pick a MP girl that looks at me and turn away, or who looks at me and not smile. Based on my experience, picking these types of girls are waste of time. I want a GFE with a MP, so it is like a being in a bar, when the girl gives you good eye contact and a big smile, she wants to talk to her--in the MP situation, she wants you to do her!

In the old days, I would pick girls based only on looks, I learned that the best looking girl at the highest price does not equal the bast GFE.

In addition, bare in mind that timing is everything-- by going at the wrong time to a MP (too early or too late) you will not find a good selection. If it is late at night, you may be her 5 customer and she could simply be worn out--so to speak. The best time for a MP depends on the MP, but generally speaking, I like to go between 5 pm to 8:30 pm. This rule does not apply to Catherine where lots of Thai guys are at this MP on the weekend by 2:00 pm.
Catherine WAS one of my best places, but recently, they have changed--higher prices and older girls. But they still give BBBJ and 2 shots and there is a huge selection. Also, I don't like being there when 30 plus guys are also picking.

And lastly, sometimes, we just a bit of bad luck. There have been a few times that I got bad service several times in a row. It was just my unlucky
month. When this happens, I head over to Soi Cowboy, something about sitting a time while a girl dances on my table with no underwear really gets me in a good mood!

Good luck and have fun!

Jungle Bluebird
09-28-07, 02:32
It' simple. Just pay up. Regardless what you do, learning, monitoring or responding, you are directly supporting your business.

Same as you expect your clients to pay in full, I think it is only fair to pay the membership fees.

JB



What I have been doing so far is replying to questions and trying to keep respective members of this forum informed as much as possible whilst learning myself ways of improving our business for the forum readers when they visit us. This is done through me reading the constructive criticism on this site, it is a great way for us to grow. No promoting so far.

In this case if I do pay the members fee would this mean that I could bypass the forum rules and promote my business with links to my website and advise of special events that we are doing etc etc.

If this is true then please can the forum owners confirm this as this seems like a good deal to me.

Thanks for the comment Nic we do try to be as fast as we can with emails.

Thanks Aey

Ralph Kramden
09-28-07, 15:39
What Undercoverh says about choosing where, who and when is absolutely the "MP Mongering" gospel truth.

Before I learned what Undercoverh knows, for every three MP girls I chose, one was great, one good and the third was different shades of disappointing.

But then with more experience at selection, the last 2 or 3 years, it is like every time is nearly a sexual adventure home run. I think I batted 5 for 5 last year at Nataree, showing up at about 3:30 to 4 PM every day.

Almotu
09-29-07, 02:34
Any of the more knowledgeable posters want to post the names & addresses of their list of 'must-see' massage parlours? Including brief critiques on the rooms and service.

Thanks NicFrenchy, I have already printed out your post as listed in the Reports of Distinction.

Undercoverh
09-29-07, 03:33
Any of the more knowledgeable posters want to post the names & addresses of their list of 'must-see' massage parlours? Including brief critiques on the rooms and service.

Thanks NicFrenchy, I have already printed out your post as listed in the Reports of Distinction.


For a general list, check out www.bangkok999.com, this site has pics of MP girls. Check out Long Beach, which most of the time, have light skinned Thai girls that look hot. The price is much higher at Long Beach for the model, but sometimes I treat myself when I have been an extra good boy.

The site has not been updated in a long time, but it will give you an idea of what "type" of girls work at different MP. This is an important point to keep in mind. Some MP are known for having cheap older women (e.g., Biwa, Annies), and others are know for have younger model type (e.g., Long Beach, Copa Cabana), others are know for having good service with girls in the 6.5 to 8.5 range (e.g., Natree), others are known for giving BBBJ and more than one shot (e.g., Catherine).

Also check out For a general list, check out www.bangkok999.com, this site has pics of MP girls. Check out Long Beach, which most of the time, have light skinned Thai girls that look hot. The price is much higher at Long Beach for the model, but sometimes I treat myself when I have been an extra good boy.

The site has not been updated in a long time, but it will give you an idea of what "type" of girls work at different MP. This is an important point to keep in mind. Some MP are known for having cheap older women (e.g., Biwa, Annies), and others are know for have younger model type (e.g., Long Beach, Copa Cabana), others are know for having good service with girls in the 6.5 to 8.5 range (e.g., Natree), others are known for giving BBBJ and more than one shot (e.g., Catherine).

Also check out For a general list, check out www.bangkok999.com, this site has pics of MP girls. Check out Long Beach, which most of the time, have light skinned Thai girls that look hot. The price is much higher at Long Beach for the model, but sometimes I treat myself when I have been an extra good boy.

The site has not been updated in a long time, but it will give you an idea of what "type" of girls work at different MP. This is an important point to keep in mind. Some MP are known for having cheap older women (e.g., Biwa, Annies), and others are know for have younger model type (e.g., Long Beach, Copa Cabana), others are know for having good service with girls in the 6.5 to 8.5 range (e.g., Natree), others are known for giving BBBJ and more than one shot (e.g., Catherine).

Also check out www.**************.com that has a excellent list of MPs with phone numbers, address, some price info.

Also check out www.ilikemassage.com, it has a good price list and some pics of MP girls.

A few free tips. Bangkok is the MP capital of the world. Having said that, note that there are the downsides. First, I never take the advice of a taxi guy. They are on a commission, they will lie and say they are not. Hell, ya right, this taxi guy is concerned for you and he just wants to make sure you get a good lay in his country--BS. If he suggest a place, based on my experience, turn him down. Otherwise, you will be paying the MP extra for his tip (300 to 500 more), I learned this the hard way when I was a newbie 12 years ago.

2nd, stay away for the MP that charge you extra just because you are not Thai (e.g., Posiden). With so much young sexy girls in Bangkok, why pay more for it then a Thai guy. When you pay 500 extra at Posiden, for a girl a Thai guy would pay 500 less for, they have a Thai word for that, "sucker." If anyone can justify paying this surcharge, I would like to read you position on this subject.

3rd, with so many MPs in Bangkok, it is hard to visit all of them on a vacation, or even in a life time. My advise is pick a hotel that is in walking distance of many MPs and then explore the MPs. For example the Emerald Hotel has about 10 MPs within walking distance. The website ************** has info on this hotel.

Have fun!

Undercoverh
09-29-07, 03:39
In my last post, I had a problem with my computer and the same information was presented several times, sorry. Also, the info I gave on a website was blocked by ISG and ****** appears. Here is the website again, note that it is all one word: bangkok to night

Hope this helps.

Almotu
09-29-07, 05:42
I will look into the sites that you have listed but many times these sites list places that pay them advertising $$$ and I would prefer an actual monger's POV instead of looking at photos. However just inside your brief post, I will now search for more information on Catherine's.

Which places rank up there for you? Your top 5 will do. Which are the ones going to find I am staying near NEP? Which ones are good around the Emerald? I like to do the nighttime bar scene also, is the Emerald close to that action? What do you think of Angel 22 or Akane 33?

Thanks in advance.

AsiaTraveler2
09-29-07, 08:01
In my last post, I had a problem with my computer and the same information was presented several times, sorry. Also, the info I gave on a website was blocked by ISG and ****** appears. Here is the website again, note that it is all one word: bangkok to night

Hope this helps.

Undercoverh,

The reason the website was blocked, is probably because it would be considered a competing website, which is a no-no. You also can edit your post, so you should be able to get rid of the duplicate lines.

AT2

Undercoverh
09-29-07, 15:18
I received a PM in my inbox, my response may be of interest to others. Therefore, I have reprinted the info below.



Thanks alot for the answer to my post. I will give a few of the places you mention a try and heed your other suggestions as well. Maybe there is hope for me and soapies after all.

RC


Your welcomed. This may also be helpful to you. Rama 9 has a lot of ok to good MPs, Catherine, Long Beach, La Defense, Colonze 1, Utopia, Victoria's Secret, Noar, Melenna, and most are in walking distance of Long Beach (which is across the street from Catherine). Also, Long Beach has a nice laid back eating area. Sometimes, I go there just to hang out and watch the girls, I find this relaxing, and when I ready to pick, if I don't like what I see at LB, I can simply walk in the general area to the other MP and find what I like.

I don't like taking taxis from one MP to another because it takes such a long time and I find I miss out on the best times to go to a MP (generally between 4 pm to 8:30 pm).

For those guys who are on vacation, Rama 9 has a nice hotel called the Radisson (it is next to Catherine and across the street from LB). When I am in town for 36 hours, I stop over at the Radisson and enjoy the surrounding MPs. When I want late night action, I take a cab to Soi Cowboy (which is in my opinion the best of the go-go bar groupings).

Undercoverh
09-29-07, 15:42
I will look into the sites that you have listed but many times these sites list places that pay them advertising $$$ and I would prefer an actual monger's POV instead of looking at photos. However just inside your brief post, I will now search for more information on Catherine's.

Which places rank up there for you? Your top 5 will do. Which are the ones going to find I am staying near NEP? Which ones are good around the Emerald? I like to do the nighttime bar scene also, is the Emerald close to that action? What do you think of Angel 22 or Akane 33?

"Thanks in advance.

Here is my POV to your questions, but I must first state that it is just my POV. Also, different guys will have different experiences with the same MP--and with the same girl. Bare in mind that sometimes the Thai MP girl may also like certain types of guys and will get turned on more to one type compared to another. Thus, provide a better GFE. I find this so more with Thai girls then other girls (e.g., Hong Kong girls, Macau girls, etc.). I also find that lots of Thai MP really like sex, compared to other MP girls in other countries that just do it for the money (e.g., Singapore). Thailand is still the best overall place in the world for MP sex and a good price.

Now, having said all of that, here is my POV to your questions:

Catherine's-Still has lots of selection and a good price. It is not the same as before (it was closed for a while and the reopened). When you go, go early especially on the weekend. This is a Thai guy hot spot and you will want to beat the rush.

"Which places rank up there for you? Your top 5 will do." Sometimes I stay at the Palazzo Hotel at Ratchadapisek IN THE NEW WING--NOT THE OLD WING because it is in walking distance to tons of MPs. In this area I like, in order of top pick:

1.Nataree
2.Mirage
3.Colonze 2
4.Copa Cabana
5.Sometimes, also Casars.

These are also around Emerald. Note, Emerald will charge 600 to bring a girl to your room. Palazzo, which is across from the Emerald, does not charge.

After I have my MP fun in this area, I like to go to Soi Cowboy. Or, call for an in room massage for one of the 24 hour outcall. Never pay more than 1,000 to 1,500 for sex with these girls. This cost is in addition to the cost of the massage. Check the website I gave for a full list of 24 hour outcall massage.

"What do you think of Angel 22 or Akane 33?" I am not a big fan of these places that mix massage with a young girl giving sex for a high price. If I want a true Thai massage, I go to a regular Thai massage place. If I want sex from a younger girl, I go to Soi Cowboy or to a MP. I find that A22 and A33 girls service is not consistent when it comes to GFE. After all, this is what we are paying for, a GFE. We can get sex anywhere in any country, the act of sex takes only a few minutes (in Hong Kong, there are girls that will provide BJ and sex for $15 for 15 minutes). But the GFE is what we are paying extra for. I find I don't get GFE at A22 or A33. Don't get me wrong, I am sure other guys like it, but it is not for me based on the few times I have been there.

Undercoverh
09-29-07, 16:01
I think it is important to add something about Natree. Some guys don't like the rooms at Natree or state the water is not cold enough sometimes. For me, I have never had these problems. I picked Natree as my #1 choice because over the years, it is given the best service, year after year, a fair price. Also, the papas there are cool guys and no rush and no rip-off. When I have made good eye contact with a MP their and exchanged smiles, I have never had bad service.

Regarding Rama 9 area, I like Long Beach as my number one pick because they have the most selection of white skinned Thai girls that look hot. But, the price for these models/sideliners can be as high as 4,000. But, some of these girls are 10+. My 2nd choice would be Utopia, La Defense in the Rama 9 area. But, check it out for yourself, your taste may be different from mine you you may find you like one MP over another that is not on my list.

Mauldid
09-29-07, 16:30
I dropped by T2 couple days ago. The direction on the website is horrible. Just get off the Phrom Phong, walk down to the mall and it will be on your right handside of Soi 24. Make the first right after the Naraya store. The only sign you will see is for the "Technical massage", go into the alley/parking lot. T2 is next to it. Took me a while to find it but it was well worth it. Got there around 930 pm, they close at 12 so I had time to choose a 1K baht full body aromatic massage. There were only 3 customers there and about 10 girls. The picture on the website as usual was not accurate. Now the girl I picked will go under the alias of Ms.Smith or MS for short because I promise her not to get her in trouble. In a little bit you'll see why. After putting my shoes in the footlocker, I followed MS to the 3rd floor for a massage. We showered and she started to clean/jerk my dick for a tease and tell me that a special was available. We proceeded to the bed, both of us nude and she worked on my backside with some funky ass cream, didn't really like it but she was actually a good masseuse. I can speak a little Thai so we joked around as she massaged my body. We connected really well and she gave me a sample of her skill by jerking me off and sucking me with no condom. I told her I didn't want to cum and that I wanted the special. She said that it will cost 3K but rather that I name a price and she would spend the night with me. I told her that I'll give her 2K for 12-5 am, she had to met up with a friend the next morning.

I met her at the pre-arranged place becasue she didn't wanted her boss to know and I respected that. The MP provided a safe place but the girls are the one doing the work, they already got my 1K and didn't want to take her cut as well.

In my hotel room, we showered fucked for a good 1 hr. She was not afraid to do a bareback blowjob, I asked about anal and CIM but she said it was dangerous. I was just testing the water, always practice safe sex. Made her cum about 3 times, I was going for 4 but I shot my load doing doggie.

She cleaned me up and was so bashful about the maid finding the used condom and she rolled in a foot of TP then threw it in the trash. We slept and I gave her a 100 for Taxi fare.

I wish I could tell you her name but it wouldn't be right. They are working girls and they need their job. Best sex this whole entire trip. Again no vitamin V just Mega Man daily supplement and Ginseng tea. Only bad this was that in the beginning, she was stinking up the room when I was fingering her. It was alright after that though.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

SuperDave
09-30-07, 04:54
I have to agree with NicFrenchy, I had nothing but a positive experience with Aey and Gung last week.

I was in Japan and coming to Bangkok last Thursday, on Tuesday evening I sent email to Aey inquiring about an outcall to my hotel on Thursday evening. Aey responded with in minutes, answering all my questions and pointing out the pros and cons of severl ladies I inquired about.

After several more emails, an appointment was confirmed for Thursday with the lady of my choice.

Of course things don't always happen as planned and at the appointed time no lady. After waiting for a while I sent an email to Gung, within minutes Aey called me on my mobile phone, and within 20 minutes the lady was in my room.

Looking back now, there were 12 emails back and forth between us, so it's understandable that a miscommunication happened.

Needless to say I had a great time with an attractive and fun lady.

So my Thanks to Aey and Gung, from my experience they run a first class operation.




I have emailed Annies several times, and the latest one was last Saturday.

Always got a response within a few hours.

AEY and GUNG were both very professional and helpful via email.

Undercoverh
09-30-07, 21:21
I am starting to rethinking my planned trip to Bangkok (for some MP fun) because of the news report below from this past weekend. It is too bad Bangkok level of risk has increased. Maybe I will just stay in Hong Kong for my MP activities. Sad to write that HK is no where near as good as Bangkok. I am interested to know of other guys are planning not to go to Bangkok because of the level of risk.

9-30-07 11:41:20
BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) - A bomb exploded outside army headquarters in the Thai capital on Sunday night, injuring two police officers, authorities said.

The officers had been alerted that someone planted a suspicious package in a phone booth near the army compound, Police Col. Saranyu Prathumraj said. As the officers were attempting to diffuse the device, it went off and injured them, Saranyu said.

No one claimed responsibility for the bomb which exploded a day before Gen. Anupong Paochinda was set to replace outgoing army chief and coup leader Gen. Sonthi Boonyaratglin.

While the motive remained unclear, Thailand has been rocked by both political instability following a military coup in September 2006 which ousted Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, and a bloody Muslim insurgency in its southernmost provinces.

Nine bombs exploded in the Thai capital on New Year's Eve, killing three people and wounding more than 40. Authorities have yet to unravel the motives behind the attacks or arrest the perpetrators but it is generally believed that politics rather than the insurgency were responsible for the bombings.

The military-installed government also has said that followers of the exiled ex-prime minister are trying to create an atmosphere of instability in the country which could facilitate his return to power.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press.

Thor93
10-01-07, 01:13
I am starting to rethinking my planned trip to Bangkok (for some MP fun) because of the news report below from this past weekend. It is too bad Bangkok level of risk has increased. Maybe I will just stay in Hong Kong for my MP activities. Sad to write that HK is no where near as good as Bangkok. I am interested to know of other guys are planning not to go to Bangkok because of the level of risk.


It appears that what is going on is a result of internal Thai politics and not AQ type activities. As long as you don't have the real terrorists targeting Western types with big bombs designed to kill as many people as possible, I would not worry too much. I do fear that sooner or later it will happen though in Bangkok. I am just going to play the odds that it doesn't happen while I am there and in the exact spot I am standing.

Lets be realistic, your odds of being killed by a terrorist bomb are really quite low. The odds of not getting bombed in HK are not significantly higher. It could happen any place anytime. I plan on being there at the end of this month and this bombing does not dissuade me at all.

LittleBigMan
10-01-07, 08:49
Undercoverh,

There is nothing to worry about! And please don't change you plans if you do it will just be more for everyone else!
Until you see buildings coming down and bombs raining on your ass! there is nothing to worry about except the Thai Baht getting stronger!

LBM

NicFrenchy
10-01-07, 10:56
Guys,

Don't want to be an ass but, why are we having these conversations in the Massage Parlor Thread?

We have a Thailand Politics Thread or a General Thread for these.

Thanks in advance

Roguesta
10-01-07, 14:50
I'm flying to BKK in November. I'm more concerned about getting into a serious accident while driving to the airport at LAX than being attacked by a terrorist since the odds of that happening are far greater.

Actually, I'm not worried about either one.

Undercoverh
10-02-07, 01:59
Guys,

Don't want to be an ass but, why are we having these conversations in the Massage Parlor Thread?

We have a Thailand Politics Thread or a General Thread for these.

Thanks in advance


That's a reasonable question. The reason I posted the bombing subject here is because basically, I go to Bangkok on stopovers mainly for MPs girls. Thus, I was trying to determine if MP sex is worth the increased risk. By "determine," I mean getting feedback (e.g., are they considering changes their travel plans) from other guys who also like MPs.

Azur1639
10-02-07, 03:24
first of all, i would like to concur with the good things being said about nataree. it is a fine establishment and i have never had a bad experiance there. friendly papasans, surprisingly nice girls, no surchange, no bullshit, great place. i recently had #46 or 42 (can't remember) from the fb, and she is excellent for those who like big firm tits, and whiter skin. very nice chinese looking face as well, and only 20. 'new girl' service but perfectly acceptable.

unfortunely, i cannot say the same for my recent trip to cupidy in the plaza complex. i had been going around for a few hours checking out places. clearly, before 6 o'clock on a monday is not the best time to be mp hopping. i usually don't go to plaza, i have had good and bad experiances here, but they have the air mattress and always seem to have a large amount of new girls, so i thought i'd check it out.

btw, do not accept the price of thb3000 for the sideliners here, this is the farang ripoff price. please do not accept more than 2500.

anyway, i really did not feel like going around anymore so i went for a cute looking girl on the sideline (#44_? ). small and cute type, but alittle bigger with nice looking tits (note that i do prefer bigger (not too big) voluptuous type girls). she was friendly and talkitive as we went upstairs.

unfortunetly, things began to go downhill from there. she did a very rushed bath and an even more rushed body slide. i am not one to do any major complaints during a session, but i asked her in thai if she didn't like doing the body slide, and she said something about me being slim so my rib cage was hurting her. ok, if you say so. onward to the bed. she began with standard nipple kissing and a not so good handjob (when will they learn that the sensitivity is at the top? ) and kept at this for a few minutes until i was at (almost) full mast. the session was feeling alittle un-erotic at this point, so it wasn't as easy as normal. i felt i needed it in her mouth, so i asked her for bbbj and was met with "no cannot" right in the moment. this promptly returned me to half mast, as she went on a speech about how all the girls here cannot do it. ok ok, i understand, is cbj ok? thankfully, that had the seal of approval but at this point things were not feeling erotic at all and i was having a hard time getting back up. after a few minutes she got the condom on and began. cbj was ok, but its still a cbj which does very little for me. she finally got on top and when i was inside about 2cm she reacted and pulled out saying that it hurt. a few more times, slowly and carefully, same thing. i could feel myself starting to shink again, and she finally allowed it inside (now at 3/4 mast).

we went for no more then 15-20 seconds when (just as i was getting solid again) she abruptly pulled out again and said "you up" as she lay down on her back. this nonsense put me at half mast yet again. the rest of the session was mostly her complaining that it hurt (i am not that big) and taking away any small amount of eroticism that was still remaining. i must have not been inside her for more then 15-20 seconds at a time. with all this bullshit, i was unable to even finish once.

after, she did maintain her friendly attitude, which was pretty much the only thing she did right. back down in the lobby i ran into another girl i've gone with before (who gives excellent service) as she was waiting for a customer. "that lady give good service? " she asks. i sadly told her the truth, and she says "its ok, next time you take me" with a smile, and went with her customer.

truth be told, the girl was friendly and cute, but this kind of terrible service really is a big deal for me. it really is amazing how much it matters to having a good session. maybe some guys can perform just fine as long as the girl is attractive, but i sure can't, at least in a p4p situation.

this happends to me more often the i'd like, because i am always drawn to places with more attractive girls, instead of places that prioritize service over looks.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

LittleBigMan
10-02-07, 06:23
Undercoverh,
You will have to be extremely unlucky for a bomb to hit the visiting MP, that you are visiting. The chances are maybe Trillion to 1? Heh Heh,

LBM

Angelo Per
10-02-07, 11:42
I wanted to visit NEP last Saturday but the taxi took me almost to the doorstep of annies, so thought it fate and walked in. There were about 10 in the fish bowl ranging from 4-7. Picked a girl whom th mamsan recomended as good f**k but so so BJ because I liked her face. Bought a coke for my self and a beer for her. Proceeded to room. Quite big with a double bed. Had a bit of kiss and cuddle before being stripped and led to the bath. The bath was standard with both of us being cleaned inside out.

Proceeded to the bed where she started giving me a BBBJ which was quite nice. Then I returned the compliment by going down on her. To my surprise she became quite wet and responded very well to two fingers rubbing her spot, I may be kidding my self but she seemed to get off on it, and thanked me.

Then it was the traditional cow girl and missionary positions until I came inside the supplied condom.

Cuddled and kissed again and she wanted to know if I wanted a second shot. Little bro was not up to it so called it a day.

Her number 15
Looks 7
Attitude 8
BBBJ 7
FJ 8

Angelo

Allover
10-03-07, 04:27
Last week I made the rounds of MPs and I mentioned I chose Nataree and had a good time. With the help of other members here, I finally visited Colonze 2, Catherine's and LaDefense. I had been wanting to see these places since the reviews here were positive.

Colonze 2 had some good lookers but the selection was small. Unfortunately, my wingman wanted to go elsewhere so we left Colonze 2. I believe we were quoted B2500 for a standard body massge girl. There were only 2 models available.

Catherines quoted B2600 for standard bosdy massage girl. I tried to negotiate a lower price since I thought I read prices were lower. Sinc ewe weren't in look with the selection (but it was ok) we moved down the street to LaDefense. LaDefence had body massage girls for B2600-B2900. There were about 20 girls in the fishbowl, but I opted for a model at B3000. That's not a bad price for a model. My model was from Chang Mai and was extremely light skinned. A beautiful girl and a good performer. The room was very modern, unclean what I see in most places. I would recommend LaDefence.

During my visit Cupidy and Nataree had the largest selction and that has been the case for my past two trips. Plaza Massage on second floor next to Cupidy continues to have the best model selction imho for a price of B3200-B3400 depending on the girl. I would recommend Plaza (if that's the right name) for someone wanting to splurge in the B3400 price range. Caesar's is awsome but ridiculously expense. I still haven't made it to Posiedon. I'll check it out next time.

Palatkik
10-03-07, 05:04
Anyways, went through the photo album and picked 'Guess' for a 1.5 hr lotion massage. Out she comes from the room and I could tell I made a good choice cause she was pretty hot, decent attitude.Personally I am disappointed with Angels posting old photos of their ladies. For sure Guess is not bad looking and surely was a "stunner" in her youth but the current photo http://angelsoi26.kt.fc2.com/gs1.jpg of her must have been taken almost ten years ago . She does still have a lovely face, but the body has taken it's toll. Friendly service and some massive hanging tits that may appeal to some though.

Beige
10-04-07, 23:21
Azur1639,

A hilarious report! I know it probably wasnt meant to be funny but i think we have all been there gentlemen!!! Why do we do it? cos its fun lol!

OzzieSuds
10-05-07, 03:04
aviva seems to get a bad rap here but i tried it yesterday and was quite content. i was heading for [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) about 4 pm and was not impressed with the talent on hand so i popped upstairs to aviva on the way out.

i asked for a selection and picked gib with nice tits, nice smile and curly hair - her pic is on the website although she seemed to say she had only been working there for 10 days.

once in the room she started pointing to the shower but i pulled her close and she melted into a full blown hug with ffk. so then she stripped and joined me in the shower for a thorough cleansing of all the genitals we could find. next was the real massage which was good and strong thai style until she got me to turn over ready for full service. she was excellent with bbbj until she got very wet and got a rubber and rode on top before i sat her up and turned her over. i have trouble coming inside rubbers so i pulled it off and finished with a tf before blowing the load on her tits and face.

more shower to clean up then she gave me facial and head massage with her groin as a pillow.

damage was b400 for 90 mins to house and she asked for b1500. i had given her my line that there is more for her if she is good so i gave her an extra b300.

so there it is. excellent service from a new and enthusiastic girl who already has her pic on the website. did not ask about takeout.

Lover Boy #2
10-07-07, 05:34
I will be in BKK shortly. I always wanted to try this place, but have never had the chance, either due to schedule issues or the fact that the field was very small on arrival. I have used search and have read all the recent posts. Do any of you gentlemen have some "top picks" (very recent)...so that I can do a booking from Singapore and be somewhat assured of a good pick on arrival? I would like above a min. 8 (maybe 7.5) in looks, thin with nice accessories and the full boat of services that the place is famous for. I see this "Nestle" mentioned often, but I searched for a picture and was a little frightened (maybe just a bad picture on their advert.?)....so....can someone help? Thanks.

(maybe some nice massage skills too?)

Chaz
10-07-07, 08:18
I've been to Tulip twice. Both times, things were much the same. I opted for the two hour oil massage. First time was Pim, second time was Gung. After some massage of the back I flipped over for BBBJCIM. With Pim, after more massage, she attempted to put on a condom. But it was too samll. I said, "This won't work. " So she took it off and tried to insert me bareback. No Way! Once she understood I wouldn't go for that, she offered another BBBJCIM, which I happily accepted. The second visit was much the same, except Gung just did the BBBJCIM twice, meaning she didn't try putting on a too-small condom. So I think the service is the somewhat standard, and the girls are decent. Not superstars, but not anything I would reject either. So I would wish you luck.

NicFrenchy
10-07-07, 09:28
I would like above a min. 8 (maybe 7.5) in looks, thin with nice accessories and the full boat of services that the place is famous for. I see this "Nestle" mentioned often, but I searched for a picture and was a little frightened (maybe just a bad picture on their advert.?)....so....can someone help? Thanks.

(maybe some nice massage skills too?)So let me get this Straight, you want a minimum 8, with a nice body, who will fuck you like there's no tomorrow and you want her to have massage skills. Is that it?

Well, you can be certain not to find her at Tulip. I am not sure which reviews you read but Tulip is knows for its service standards (not for providing beauty queens).

Now, there are some very nice girls there and I can recomment the following: Oil, Teena and Yok.

MartinNL
10-07-07, 09:39
based on the below report i thought let's give aviva a change. welcomed nicely and made an appointment in my hotel for 2 ladies. some time later both arrived.gib as mentioned below and nok. gib is very nice but her english is limited, nok is easier to communicate with. gib has a fantastic body, is very sweet and both have been realy accomodating although no bbbj ( did not ask for it as well ). had a great time before leaving the hotel to the airport. one reamrk : they did not stay the agreed 2 hrs, but i must say i was in a hurry to get at the airport not to miss my plane.


aviva seems to get a bad rap here but i tried it yesterday and was quite content. i was heading for [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) about 4 pm and was not impressed with the talent on hand so i popped upstairs to aviva on the way out.

i asked for a selection and picked gib with nice tits, nice smile and curly hair - her pic is on the website although she seemed to say she had only been working there for 10 days.

once in the room she started pointing to the shower but i pulled her close and she melted into a full blown hug with ffk. so then she stripped and joined me in the shower for a thorough cleansing of all the genitals we could find. next was the real massage which was good and strong thai style until she got me to turn over ready for full service. she was excellent with bbbj until she got very wet and got a rubber and rode on top before i sat her up and turned her over. i have trouble coming inside rubbers so i pulled it off and finished with a tf before blowing the load on her tits and face.

more shower to clean up then she gave me facial and head massage with her groin as a pillow.

damage was b400 for 90 mins to house and she asked for b1500. i had given her my line that there is more for her if she is good so i gave her an extra b300.

so there it is. excellent service from a new and enthusiastic girl who already has her pic on the website. did not ask about takeout.

PinkPearl
10-07-07, 11:36
It seems that massage is available everywhere in BKK, even from the independent freelancers who often do it for you automaticly as a start to any session. I like a sensual massage and to fondle my own dick while the lady stands with me and takes care of my balls with one hand and my man pussy with the other. Again it is very easy to find ladies to do this for you, and you should not have to pay more than 750 Baht per hour for this service. For the same price I've been able to obtain a very hot lady on a regular basis and numerous others varying from 5 to 8 on the looks scale. So no need to pay the 8-10's an extra 2000 Baht for a lame 10 minute HJ at the end of a session. For what I am describing as attainable the lady will get into her birthday suit, let you touch her all over, & probably kiss you too, all at the same time. Good luck.

Lover Boy #2
10-08-07, 04:04
Thanks.....it is a good starting point. Does anyone know what "Nestle" looks like?




I've been to Tulip twice. Both times, things were much the same. I opted for the two hour oil massage. First time was Pim, second time was Gung. After some massage of the back I flipped over for BBBJCIM. With Pim, after more massage, she attempted to put on a condom. But it was too samll. I said, "This won't work. " So she took it off and tried to insert me bareback. No Way! Once she understood I wouldn't go for that, she offered another BBBJCIM, which I happily accepted. The second visit was much the same, except Gung just did the BBBJCIM twice, meaning she didn't try putting on a too-small condom. So I think the service is the somewhat standard, and the girls are decent. Not superstars, but not anything I would reject either. So I would wish you luck.


"So let me get this Straight, you want a minimum 8, with a nice body, who will fuck you like there's no tomorrow and you want her to have massage skills. Is that it?

Well, you can be certain not to find her at Tulip. I am not sure which reviews you read but Tulip is knows for its service standards (not for providing beauty queens).

Now, there are some very nice girls there and I can recomment the following: Oil, Teena and Yok".

Canyon
10-09-07, 02:11
I found Nestle to be quite attractive and she gave me wonderful service. I also liked her personality----great sense of humor.

Canyon

Animby
10-10-07, 09:25
...my man pussy...
Huh?
You're holding your dick. She's got one hand on your balls and with her other is taking care of your "man pussy."

What frightening images that conjures.

PinkPearl
10-14-07, 12:37
Huh?

You're holding your dick. She's got one hand on your balls and with her other is taking care of your "man pussy."

What frightening images that conjures.My response of three days ago got lost in space or did not pass the censor filter. The man pussy hand massage is a reference to a bunghole HJ which is comparable to an ARJ. Although I enjoy ladies giving me an ass licking, the TGs I have encountered seem much more enthused about giving me an ass kicking. But that's no problem since I feel the health risks are much less without a hot spicy tongue up my asshole, minus the protection of a condom or even cling wrap, and given that the hand massage is done carefully with medical gloves and or trimmed nails. BTW, good luck with a butt plug. Having it with me this trip is saving an average of 900 baht per day on my daily TG meat allowance. Don't leave home without it.

Fat Shaft
10-14-07, 12:44
Hi Everyone,

Its been awhile since I got myself some real nice poontang. Reason being I was in India on an assignment and needless to say the pickings were rather slim.

In India, I bided my time hunting for game, which meant no pay for play. But alas that took too much time,neverthless was fun each time I conquered.

I had a days layover in Bangkok on my way to the US and wanted to try the "Balls Massage" at the BKK Teen Parlour.

Landed early in the morning, checked into the Hotel, Showered, and then set off around 1030 Hrs to Nana to take the Sky Train to a Station right after Asoke(prom pren I think).


Got off and walked towards the Emporio side up the street away from the Station and found myself in the Alley which housed one of the branches of BKK Teen.

Walked in to find one girl who just walked in ahead of me(apparently they open at 11). Said could I have a Ball Massage, and she smiled and said of course and off we went to the room upstairs.

We undressed and both of us showered, lingering on places where the sun doesn't shine. She was very petite...a spinner with incredible skin and a great attitude. Small but very firm tits and an extremely tight pussy.I think her name was Jenny.

Well then Jenny got down to massaging me, a very average massage, more like a sensual rub,kept playing with my balls but not massaging them if you know what I mean. So, I decided to liven things up a bit and got her into a 69ish position and started paying a tattoo on her pussy.

She started warming up and paying more attention to my nether regions,stepped it up a notch and inserted one then two fingers into her and started massaging her G spot. That seemed to get her really warmed up and she was bucking and moaning like hell.She came soon thereafter.

With my free hand, pushed her head down and she gave me a BBJCIM. I was so full that when I exploded, she gagged and soon thereafter had to get up and go to the showers and rinse her mouth off.(Bummer)


Came back and continued to play with Junior,whilst I relaxed.


All in all a decent experience, not the best but after India, who is complaining.

Gave her a decent tip and then went off to SOI 24 to my favorite spot to get a wonderful foot massage.

Back to the Hotel to catch the Flight to the US.

Have to spend more time in Bangkok

Happy Mongering

Fat Shaft

Crazygman99
10-15-07, 05:03
I get to Bangkok at 1:00AM in the morning and my connector flight to Phuket leaves at 7:00AM. Since I don't have time to get a hotel, I would love to find someplace close to the airport for a nice 2 hour massage and a shower. Anyone know anyplace close and open late?

Do you know if there are lockers at the airport to store my luggage? don't want to haul it around.

Thanks

Lover Boy #2
10-15-07, 05:29
BTW, good luck with a butt plug. Having it with me this trip is saving an average of 900 baht per day on my daily TG meat allowance. Don't leave home without it.

Why does the butt plug lower your daily spending? This is not any type of flame...I just don't understand. Please explain....

Duniawala
10-15-07, 16:20
I get to Bangkok at 1:00AM in the morning and my connector flight to Phuket leaves at 7:00AM. Since I don't have time to get a hotel, I would love to find someplace close to the airport for a nice 2 hour massage and a shower. Anyone know anyplace close and open late?

Do you know if there are lockers at the airport to store my luggage? don't want to haul it around.

Thanks
Yes, there are lockers (or left luggage) at the airport.

By the time you get out of customs and leaving the airport you will be close to 2:30 am. The best to my knowledge, and others who have better ideas can chime in, would be to take a taxi to Sukhumvit and you will find many TGs on the sidewalk having meals etc. If you reserve a room at one of the hotels on Suk in advance, you can get a quick one before heading back out to the airport at 4:30.

However, IMHO it is not worth it. Better to go on to Phuket and get your massage there.

Have fun.

1Ball
10-15-07, 18:04
I get to Bangkok at 1:00AM in the morning and my connector flight to Phuket leaves at 7:00AM. Since I don't have time to get a hotel, I would love to find someplace close to the airport for a nice 2 hour massage and a shower. Anyone know anyplace close and open late?

Do you know if there are lockers at the airport to store my luggage? don't want to haul it around.

Thanks
I second Duni's post below, however, instead of reserving a room, once you hit Suk, and pick a girl, you can go to a Short time hotel, do the deed, and be on your way.

BTW, make sure your HKT flight leaves out of "So you wanna boom", and not Don Muang.

AsiaTraveler2
10-15-07, 18:11
I get to Bangkok at 1:00AM in the morning and my connector flight to Phuket leaves at 7:00AM. Since I don't have time to get a hotel, I would love to find someplace close to the airport for a nice 2 hour massage and a shower. Anyone know anyplace close and open late?

Do you know if there are lockers at the airport to store my luggage? don't want to haul it around.

Thanks

Crazygman99,

It's probably not the best option, but it is one you can use as a backup plan if no one else chimes in. Duni is right, in that you will arrive in the city via taxi around 2:30am, after going through customs and the ride into town. It could be earlier, due to time of night or should I say morning.

There's a massage place on Soi 11, right across the Ambassador Hotel. Across the street there's a 7-11 and a lane that runs behind it (Runs from Soi 11 and back of the 7-11 and back out to Soi 11. In that lane, there's a place called Sabai Sabai. You can get an ok to good massage (depends on the girl) and usually the offer of a happy ending. To get full service, you will need to get a room. Sabai Sabai is 24/7, with very few closing days during the year.

There are others, I'm sure, but that's the one that comes to mind. There are also other places that offer 24 hour outcall.

Good luck!
AT2

Dinghy
10-16-07, 03:09
THE KEY THING THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THIS THREAD TO CRAZY WAS THAT DOMESTIC FLIGHTS MOSTLY GO FROM DON MUANG!!! Remember that. AIR ASIA DOESN'T GO FROM DON MUANG, THOUGH - THEY GO FROM BKK (SOUWANABHOUMI)


YOU WILL PROBABLY TRANSFER AIRPORTS AND LEAVING YOUR BAGS AT SUWANABHOUMI (BKK) WILL MEAN THAT YOU WILL NEED TO GO BACK THERE TO GET THE BAGS!!

DON'T MAKE THAT MISTAKE!!

And if you don't know - the airport transfer bus is at the "airport bus station" - you get there by taking either the express shuttle (faster) from the second floor or the "regular" shuttle - just takes a bit longer because it goes thru the duty free zone - from the ground floor. the shuttle is "free" to the bus station

Crazygman99
10-16-07, 06:10
Thanks for the info and tips on the airports, I checked with my booking and I am flying Thai Air and I depart from SOUWANABHOUMI but on the return I arrive at DON MUANG, It won't be a big deal on the way back as I get to BBK around 2:00PM and don't leave till 3:00PM the next day so I will end up staying somewhere down by Soi Cowboy or Soi Nana so i can have a full night of fun in BBK.

Thanks and maybe I will just try and crash and get some sleep before Phuket..

Thanks!

PinkPearl
10-16-07, 09:13
Why does the butt plug lower your daily spending? his is not any type of flame...I just don't understand. Please explain.Sorry I don't know if I can give a true to God precisely accurate and rational answer to that question. But I do not use the sex toy while in the company of TGs, only when I am by myself. Thus I would propose the theory that the device acts as a substitute for being with a lady whom I would be spending money on. However since the costs {medical gloves, vegetable oil} associated with the plug are relatively negligible in comparison to pussy, it is much less expensive to use. If I cum while it is in my arsehole, then my interest in seeing a P4P woman may be gone till the next day, thereby saving me $.

If I start cumming too quicky playing with myself, then, for some reason, I am able to last longer with and can revert back to female's massages. But mine are safer, cleaner & better.

BTW, I would probably not use the ass insert as much without some visual material like a lady magazine or 2007 TGs Maxim DVD {available at Paragon}.

Skeeter
10-16-07, 15:51
[QUOTE=1Ball]I second Duni's post below, however, instead of reserving a room, once you hit Suk, and pick a girl, you can go to a Short time hotel, do the deed, and be on your way.[quote]Agreed - plenty of choice on the street at 2:30 - Get a girl anywhere from Soi 3 -15 (they'll be looking for you!) and cab to Penthouse or Playboy ST hotel (between Soi 11 & 3) for 35 bht - 310 or 460 bht for the ST room - enjoy and gone. Easy!

Skeeter
10-16-07, 15:57
I know - It's been said many many times in this forum ... but I reckon it is the best place in the Suk area for convenience and service.

I finished work a bit early - on the Skytrain, coming into Thong Lo ... and thought, why not!

Down the steps and straight ino Tulips to try my luck. Picked Nok and had a great 90 minutes of porn star sex.

Great way to spend a spare afternoon in Bkk!

Meaty
10-19-07, 08:15
This place is great, and it really is a good solid sex session without massage, but be aware that 'most' of the girls will go bareback for FS, and there are a fair few who will allow bareback anal and swopping between the 2. Also i saw Teena's name mentioned below, have her genital warts cleared up yet ? Last time i was with her (probably 4 months ago) she had an enormous one just inside her pussy.

Any mongers living out Soi Udomsuk way will be pleased to know theres a new MP opened up, rivalling Catherines and the like, its on Theperak, called PP entertainment.

Giotto
10-19-07, 08:32
This place is great, and it really is a good solid sex session without massage, but be aware that 'most' of the girls will go bareback for FS, and there are a fair few who will allow bareback anal and swopping between the 2.
...Meaty,

This is quite a disturbing development in obviously many massage parlours. The girls care about condoms less and less.


Giotto

M P Lurker
10-19-07, 18:54
Hi Everyone,
Its been awhile since I got myself some real nice poontang. Reason being I was in India on an assignment and needless to say the pickings were rather slim.
Fat Shaft
Be aware that this is an International List,
Many of us do not understand presumably local slang like "poontang"
Never been heard of where I come from.

Lover Boy #2
10-20-07, 06:42
OK...now I understand...thanks for the information.



Sorry I don't know if I can give a true to God precisely accurate and rational answer to that question. But I do not use the sex toy while in the company of TGs, only when I am by myself. Thus I would propose the theory that the device acts as a substitute for being with a lady whom I would be spending money on. However since the costs {medical gloves, vegetable oil} associated with the plug are relatively negligible in comparison to pussy, it is much less expensive to use. If I cum while it is in my arsehole, then my interest in seeing a P4P woman may be gone till the next day, thereby saving me $.

If I start cumming too quicky playing with myself, then, for some reason, I am able to last longer with and can revert back to female's massages. But mine are safer, cleaner & better.

BTW, I would probably not use the ass insert as much without some visual material like a lady magazine or 2007 TGs Maxim DVD {available at Paragon}.

M P Lurker
10-20-07, 13:17
Meaty,
This is quite a disturbing development in obviously many massage parlours. The girls care about condoms less and less.
Giotto
So where do the ISG members think we are likely to find the highest percentage of girls who insist on Condoms?

I don't believe its in the general public (non-P4P) nor in beer gardens or street walkers. Now some MPs seem unsafe.
Could it possibly be that bar-girls might be the safest? :-)
Just kidding. I have no real clue where to find the most careful girls.

Lover Boy #2
10-22-07, 05:59
So where do the ISG members think we are likely to find the highest percentage of girls who insist on Condoms?

I don't believe its in the general public (non-P4P) nor in beer gardens or street walkers. Now some MPs seem unsafe.
Could it possibly be that bar-girls might be the safest? :-)
Just kidding. I have no real clue where to find the most careful girls.


You know, as I think about this........out of sex experiences with 100's of Thai girls.....(from every venue inc. amateurs).....almost all of them offered the pussy up at some point sans condom. This is not the case in all of the places mongers go throughout the world. In Europe, for the most part condom usage and prostitution go hand in hand so to speak. The same in most other places that I have been. This is not to say that some very nice girl gets a bit excited in a German FKK and decides for all the wrong reasons that her partner is a safe guy (real clean, smells good, clean dick, nice skin....all the wrong reasons actually). Sometimes I cannot believe this situation in Thailand. Sometimes these girls are even willing to do anal sans condom. It is obviously an education issue....even though some of these girls were quite literate, not farm workers.....and it seemed they should know better. It is frightening at times when you actually sit back and think of this situation.

NicFrenchy
10-22-07, 07:54
You know, as I think about this........out of sex experiences with 100's of Thai girls.....(from every venue inc. amateurs).....almost all of them offered the pussy up at some point sans condom. Yes, I can say that this is also what happends to me. Girls I take more than a couple times at Oily venues actually don't even reach for a condom until I insist on it.

Some girls even offer Bareback on the first encounter!

Thankfully, some girls insist on Condom Every time no matter how many times I've seen them.

What is most Frightening is that a lot of the girls I had sex with from non P4P were ready to go at it without condom.

Such is life in Thailand I guess, the most important is that at least we protect ourselves.

Art Bottom Up
10-22-07, 13:07
Here's a twist...Any suggestions for an establishment that has male masseur massaging women with in or outcall options? I think my wife would like to try that.

Hoodyspeas
10-23-07, 08:19
First off, to the guys that post good info, thanks for all your help. I've been reading for a long time and finally getting out on the road to use some of this valuable information.

Went to Aviva with a buddy of mine. We were there at around 6pm on Monday night. There were about 15 girls, some did Oil Massage, some did Thai Massage. The rate was 300 bhat for an hour and 400 for an hour and a half. HJ was 500 bhat, BJ was 1000 bhat, and F/S was 1500 bhat. I just went for a straight massage, but my girl (Gib) was definitely willing to do it all. The massage was very good and once I told Gib that I just wanted 'just massage, ' there was no bad feelings and she gave me a good massage. A little light for me, but I'm a big guy. My buddy got the full VIP treatment and said the he liked his session a lot.

My Girl (Gib, pic on website):

Face: 8
Body: 9- Big tits
Attitude: 10- Given that she was still nice after I said 'just massage'
Massage: 8

My Buddy's Girl:

Face: 8
Body: 9
Attitude: 9
Massage: 4
Performance: 8

Hoodyspeas
10-23-07, 08:41
not sure if this report should be here or somewhere else, but went to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) (bj bar) on soi 8 sukhumvit rd with my buddy. i did not partake, but my buddy did and here's the report.

we showed up on monday around 4pm and there were 15-20 girls there already and more kept showing while my buddy was having his session. pretty standard deal. you show up and head to the bar and are approached by girls, if you like them, you head upstairs. it's 700 bhat for the standard bj and 1100 for f/s. my buddy went with a girl named ae and was satisfied, but since he had already 'relaxed' earlier the girl had to work extra hard and he ended up getting f/s with a long bj.

face: 7
body: 5
attitude: 10 -more than willing to go for long bj
bj- 6
performance: 6

Giotto
10-23-07, 09:32
3. theme massage places

3.1. akane fashion massage

3.1.1. overview

rating: recommended (unchanged)
last visit: june 2006

type: japanese style lotion massage
focus: massage

address: sukhumvit soi 33
tel: +66 (0)2-662-0366
opening hours: 12.00 – 24.00
website:http://www.pink-project.com/akane/english/english_top.html
price: thb 1,100 / 1,480 / 1,580 for fashion massage 50 / 80 / 90 min.
price special service: included
tip: thb 200 - 500

3.1.2. recent updates

october 2007
still haven’t been there again. the feedback from livingstone’s customers are mixed now, some are not happy with the service and consider the place to be overrated, others highly recommend the place.

i don’t change the rating because i haven’t been there again. may be one day i will try it again.

april 2007
due to a very unpleasant experience i don’t go there any more. but the feedback from the guests from livingstone’s stays positive in general, with only some exceptions. generally still a place which can be recommended.

3.1.3. general info

akane 33 is clearly catering for japanese customers. but nowadays also westerners are going there.

you walk to the entrance, through the car park before, and get seated. you select your service from the menu. basically two kinds of massage available, the lotion massage including a hj and the fashion massage including a bj (socalled “lip service” :d ) ). then some extended menu items for a 2 or even 3 girl service.

the decoration of akane is japanese, it has ambience. rooms for single girl service are upstairs, small cubicles, massage table and a table, the showers are separated from the cubicles. the 2 / 3 girl services are in rooms or the neighboring peep inn short time hotel. everything is clean.

approximately 10 - 12 girls are working in akane 33 now, average, 2 – 3 lookers. but very well trained for the service.

the management is ok, usually the sessions have a strict agenda and last as long as they last. but – some girls nowadays skip the agenda and shorten sessions.

3.1.4. basic structure of the service

fashion massage: shower, anal fingering, already playful, traditional massage, lotion massage, lip service (kissing all body and finally bj).

3.1.5. how to get there

walking from prom phong bts, down the staircase on the side opposite side of where the emporium is, the odd sois of sukhumvit, direction asoke / city center. after 200 m turn right into soi 33. you pass novotel lotus after 100 m, livingstone’s lodge after 150 m, left hand side. turn left to peep inn hotel after 250 m, akane 33 is there at left side, infront of club fushicho.

here a link with a more detailed description how to get there, it is not easy to find:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=449721

3.1.6. remarks

akane has a second branch in chidlom

fs is not available. bbbj is unsusual but happens. some girls use a rimming/sliding technique to make customers come. usually only one shot, but if the girls know you more is possible.

the special japanese massage lotion is great, a complete different massage experience.

if you select the * + 1 service (another girl comes in for the final) you cannot select that girl! you might be surprised then… :d !

3.1.7. links to reports

october 2007, recent reports
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=638613
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=636849


http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=479611
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=477228
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=469390
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=457773
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=449653


3.2. chavalla ii turkish bath

3.2.1. overview

rating: average (downgraded)
last visit: october 2006

type: bath and trad./oil massage
focus: massage

address: 18 sukhumvit soi 2 - 4
tel: +66 (0)2-258-5374
opening hours: 13.00 (12.00 sat./sun.) – 24.00
price: thb 1,300 for 2 hours
price special service: included
tip: thb 200 - 500

3.2.2. recent updates

october 2007
the last experience in chavalla ii was not too pleasant. it started already with the selection of the girl – only 4 girls in the fishbowl available. and then the rooms – ok, it is clean, but old, the bathtubs really could be exchanged, they are too small anyway.

this time i downgrade the place, though i still find the experience interesting there, and some of the providers are skilled. but – it is very much a hit and miss now, due to the thin selection of girls.

fs is available there now.

no feedbacks from livingstone’s customers.


april 2007
i was there one more time last year, the place is basically unchanged. no feedback from livingstone’s customers. therefore the rating stays unchanged.[/red]

3.2.3. general info

chavalla ii caters mostly for thai. it is located in the upper sukhumvit area, not too many farang customers go there.

you enter the building from the car park behind the building, see the counter in front of you and the fish bowl to the right. at least one papas an should be there, who usually speaks english sufficiently.

when i go there in the afternoons (between 2pm – 4 pm) there are not more than 15 girls in the fish bowl. the selection is average, most of the girls are older (30 up), but girls for different tastes are available.

the place looks very run down, room decoration and facilities are very old. but it is clean.

rooms are small, equipped with a bath tub, a massage table, chair, table for drinks, mirror, tv (porno movie channel available).

3.2.4. basic structure of the service

bath in the bath tub, hj / foreplay in the tub (the girl does not take a bath together with the customer), massage on the massage table, 2 and more shots during/after the massage, hj, bj, bbbj. usually no fs (but there are exceptions).

3.2.5. how to get there

take the bts (skytrain), exit thong lo (sukhumvit soi 55). check out the dirction of the sukhumvit road to the city center (emporium, nana, chidlom), to the lower sois. if you look in that direction chose the staircase downwards on the left hand side of the sukhumvit road.

walk 300 m along sukhumvit, pass a petrol station after 100 m, until you hit a small soi. on the other side of the soi is a bus station on sukhumvit road. the concrete building on the corner is chavalla ii. written in english at the top of the building, sukhumvit side.

3.2.6. remarks

the girls usually do not speak english.

the quality of the massage in that place is high. most of the ladies really learned how to massage.

the quality of the service is above average. some girls know techniques like hot tea/iced water bj.

3.2.7. links to reports

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=489972
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=490000
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=442610


3.3. jj fashion massage

3.3.1. overview

rating: above average
last visit: september 2007

type: massage and body scrub
focus: massage

address: 111 sukhumvit soi 55
tel: +66 (0)2-714-9893
opening hours: 14.00 – 24.00, 12.00 – 24.00 on weekends
website:http://jjbkk.client.jp/index.html
website:http://www.gdiary.com/shopdetails.cfm?shopid=73
price: thb 790 – 1,190, depending on the selected menu item
price special service:officially only hj, included
tip: thb 200

3.3.2. recent updates

this place is new, first time mentioned in this report.

3.3.3. general info

jj fashion massage is clearly catering for japanese/korean customers. but of course westerners can go there, too.

you walk to the entrance, through the car park before, directly towards the counter. the receptionists english is poor, so be prepared that you cannot get any details about the services and girls there. you select your service from the menu, and the girls from an photo album. there are approximately 10 girls working there – a smaller place.

the rooms are upstairs, 3 levels, cubicles. the showers are not in the room, you have to walk there wrapped in a towel. the rooms are equipped with professional massage benches.

the place clearly concentrates on offering a high level massage – the girls know how to massage, for sure. as special service only hjs are offered, but if you know the girls longer bjs are possible. if you select one of the 2-hjs options those hjs are provided with two different techniques.

the management is ok, the sessions have a strict agenda and last as long as they last.

3.3.4. basic structure of the service

there are 9 items on the menu:

1. massage and hj
2. massage, balls massage and hj
3. hj, massage and hj

4. body scrub and hj
5. body scrub, balls massage and hj
6. hj, scrub and hj

7. massage, body scrub and hj
8. massage, body scrub, balls massage and hj
9. hj, massage, body scrub and hj

3.3.5. how to get there

jj fashion massage is located in a sub-soi between soi 55 and soi 57.

walking from thong lo bts, down the staircase on the side opposite side of tulip. cross soi 55 first, but then turn left into soi 55 (thong lo). after approx. 150 m you reach the icebar, and in the next road to the right you find jj fashion massage after approx. 30 m on the left hand side.

3.3.6. remarks

fs is not available. bbbj is unusual but happens.

3.3.7. links to reports

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=633208


3.4. sazanka korean massage

3.4.1. overview

rating: highly recommended (unchanged)
last visit:october 2007

type: korean massage, body scrub
focus: massage

address:29/14–15 sukhumvit soi 22 / washington square
tel: +66 (0)2–663–4345
opening hours: 12.00 – 23.30
price: thb 1380 for sazanka massage, other packages cheaper
price special service: hj included
tip: thb 200 - 500

3.4.2. recent updates

october 2007
place is still unchanged, excellent massage and body scrub. and – bj and even fs is now available there, if you know the girls. perfect combination of massage and special service is possible.

some of the new girls obviously did not learn the special hand job technique. if you select the girls using the cards you will see how long the girls work there, and how their booking ration is. select a girl with a high booking ratio if you are keen to experience the special hj.

feedback from livingstone’s customers is generally positive. rating unchanged.


april 2007

service in sazanka still on a very high level. the massage is excellent, and i like the hand jobs there. differs a bit from girl to girl… i still recommend this place. therefore the rating stays unchanged.

3.4.3. general info

sazanka massage provides massage services korean style, basically body scrubs, hot towel massage, lotion massage and a happy ending.

you walk into the place, the counter is on the right hand side, you get seated in a seat group. a menu shows the different packages you can select.

the available girls are shown to you on cards with their pictures, the receptionist never shows more than 3 – 4 cards. the girls there are not particularly beautiful, but skilled.

the place is medium old, and so is all furniture, bath technology, massage tables etc. etc. . but very clean.

the rooms are upstairs, small cubicles, the walls not built up to the ceiling. you can hear many things happening in the other cubicles. this is a special touch this place has. there is a wet zone on ground level, where the shower and scrub activities take place.

no fs is available, it is definitely permitted by the management. bj is available, from very few of that girls.

the management is excellent. the staff is well trained, there is never an issue with shortening any time. the sazanka massage anyway lasts longer than 2 hours.

3.4.4. basic structure of the service

sazanka massage: shower (lying), body scrub, salt scrub, hot towel coverage, strong massage through the hot towels, walk on your back, lotion massage, hj

3.4.5. how to get there

walking from prom phong bts (skytrain), even soi side of sukhumvit towards asoke/nana, you will see mambo theater set back on the left a few blocks down. walk toward it and make another left and then the right. you will then walk right into the front door about 100 m down. a right at this point takes you to bourbon street restaurant.

3.4.6 remarks

the girls usually do not speak much english.

if you don’t like the girls shown to you on the cards ask for more cards, or wait up to 45 minutes. then more girls should be available.

fs is definitely available, with 2 of the girls, and under special circumstances (no customers in the next cubicle, early afternoon etc. etc. ).

the hj technique from the girls there is remarkable.

3.4.7. links to reports

october 2007, recent reports
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=644336
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=603174


http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=472087
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=407211


epilogue

it should be clearly pointed out, that the quality of any massage experience depends mostly on the masseuse and the chemistry between the customer and the masseuse.

for that reason this report might be obsolete – in all massage places some good masseuse can be found, and even in the here recommended places disappointing experiences are possible.


giotto

Giotto
10-23-07, 09:35
2. oil massage places

2.1. angel massage

2.1.1. overview

rating: above average (downgraded)
last visit: august 2007

type: trad./oil/lotion massage

address:sukhumvit soi 26
tel: +66 (0)2-665-6265
opening hours: 12.00 – 24.00
website: http://angelsoi26.kt.fc2.com/english01.html
price: thb 400/600/800 for oil massage 60/90/120 min
price special service: thb 500/1000/1500 for hj/bj/fs
tip: thb 500 if special service tip included, otherwise thb 200,00

2.1.2. recent updates

october 2007
as i observed many times - success of an massage place is followed by a period of loss in quality. angels was growing fast during the past few years, and the girls came from everywhere to work there. the high quality level could not be maintained.

i had a few negative sessions with new providers in there. basically angels has many lookers, though the pictures in the album now differ a lot from the real look of the girls. obviously this girls have a lot free time, in which they have nothing else to do than – to eat. so i recommend to everybody looking at the pictures to virtually add some kilos to estimate the recent look of a girl.

rooms are still ok. i had one experience in which a girl shortened the session. but it happens that girls are listed in the album which are then working in angels 22 (or the other way around), and they need at least 15 min. to come over to the other angels. i find that disturbing, i don’t like to sit in a lobby of a oil massage parlour and wait for a girl.

two major groups of girls left angels – and that was also a reason why i downgraded the place. one group opened their own massage place: rainbow fashion massage (newly described in this report). angels is now a hit or a miss, depending on the selected girl, much more than before.

feedback from livingstone’s guests is still positive, in general.

april 2007
angels was growing during the last year, they built new rooms, took over the upper floors of the neighboured building. up to 60 girls are working there now.
some of the ladies are really specialists in certain service areas.

due to the high number of girls it is always possible to select a non-performer. my recommendation for this place is not to select the stunners – they have a lot returning customers anyway. my experiences in this place with girls from the second row were always positive.

feedback from livingstone’s guests is generally positive, too.

just too avoid questions: the legend “my” (also mentioned in some reports here) does not work there any more. the official statement from the management is that she got married approx. 4 months ago.

2.1.3. general info

angels is officially catering for foreigners only. it’s a place where westerners and japanese/korean customers go. together with tulip it is the most successful operating oil massage place of bangkok of the last 2 years.

if you enter angels you will see a barber place on the right hand side, a seat group and straight on the counter. they show you the menu, thai, oil and lotion massage is on it. different packages.

the girls are selected from a photo album, most of the pictures reflect the reality quite well. there are at least 40 girls in the album, that place has one of the biggest selections for an oil massage place in bangkok. the girls are young to medium old, only a few older girls. the selection is good, girls for different tastes available.

the room where the girls are waiting for customers is next to the counter, you can also walk in there and select the girl directly there.

the rooms are not too small, a bed, small table, shower, everything quite modern, 2 – 3 years old, clean.

the management is good! girls are trained and instructed to stay with the customer the time he has paid for.

2.1.4. basic structure of the service

shower in the room, massage, service
…alternatively
shower in the room, service, massage

2.1.5. how to get there

walking from prom phong bts, down the staircase on the side where the emporium is, the even side of sukhumvit, direction thong lor, ekkamai. cross soi 24, still walking along sukhumvit, until the small soi 24/1 appears. turn right into soi 24/1. angel massage is at the very end of it, right hand side.

2.1.6. remarks

the girls are not allowed to take their mobiles upstairs to the massage rooms. you find a good selection of the latest mobile types on the counter downstairs :) .

some drinks are offered, the prices are fair.

2.1.7. links to reports

october 2007, recent reports
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=643209
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=634424
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=632789


http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=422832


2.2. aviva massage

2.2.1. overview

rating: above average (upgraded)
last visit:october 2007

type: trad./oil/aroma massage
focus: massage

address:4/10 sukhumvit soi 8
tel: +66 (0)2-254 4487
opening hours: 10.00 – 23.30
website: http://www.avivabkk.com
japanese website: http://www.gdiary.com/shopdetails.cfm?shopid=72[/url]
price: thb 400/600/800 for oil massage 60/90/120 min
price special service: thb 500/1000/1500 for hj/bj/fs
tip: thb 500 if special service tip included, otherwise thb 200,00

2.2.2. recent updates

october 2007
aviva has stabilized. there are some new girls working there, and some lookers can be found. a few stunning girls there now, though (as always) their performance is not that good. but - the hit/miss ratio was positive during my last visits. the girls working there are quite young. for that i would recommend the place for mongers who really want to enjoy a young body in a massage environment. but – young girls are usually not very experienced in massage, and relatively reluctant during special services.

my impression of this place is that the girls are quite specialized. if they are into special service their massage skills are below average, and the other way around. very sad – the girls quality could make this place unique in bangkok.

the location in soi 8 makes this place an alternative to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), if the quality there is low.

feedback from livingstone’s customers was positive to mixed. one guest was asked for a higher fee for a second shot.

some girls working there can be recommended. names are available for livingstone’s customers.

april 2007
aviva has not managed to keep the performing girls and build up quality staff. the last experiences i had there were clearly below my expectations. i cannot recommend this place any more.

2.2.3. general info

aviva is relatively new in the business, operating quite successful. it is still not well known, an insider place for bangkok expats and readers of special bangkok websites.

you walk upstairs to the counter, and opposite the counter is the room where the girls are waiting for customers. you can look over the wall into that room and select a girl directly, or choose one from the photo album.

aviva’s has not a huge number girls – that is the main problem from aviva. and the b usiness in the low season is slow, so the staff fluctuation is still big. everytime i go there some girls have left, new ones are there. there are not more than 15 girls in the photo album.

the rooms are not big, not small. they have queen size beds, a small table and a shower. everything quite new, everything very clean.

the owners / management from aviva are two ladies which worked in barons before, they know their business. the management is good, girls are trained and stay with the customer all the time he has paid for.

2.2.4. basic structure of the service

shower in the room, massage, service
…alternatively
shower in the room, service, massage

2.2.5. how to get there

take the bts (skytrain), exit nana. staircase down on the side where the landmark hotel is, and walk direction asoke (opposite direction city center). soi 8 is on the even side of sukhumvit. walk into soi 8, after approx. 20 m you see a small side road to the right. aviva is in this side road, after another 15 m.

take the left entrance, a staircase leads upstairs. if you take the right entrance you will enter the barber shop.

2.2.6. remarks

a quite famous girl anny is working there (april 2007, anny is not working there any more ), she delivers special services (anal etc.). but she is a bit chubby for my taste, but very eager to please, asks during the service what you like, and how you like it !!!

you can talk to the receptionists / mamasans and ask for your preferences. the ladies give honest recommendations.

2.2.7. links to reports

october 2007, recent reports
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=652462
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=651646
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=631081


http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=490984
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=477047
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=406588


2.3. love teen massage

2.3.1. overview

rating: average (unchanged)
last visit: july 2007

type: thai/oil/lotion massage
focus: pleasure
address: 9/22 sukhumvit soi 33
tel: +66 (0)2-259 5801
opening hours: 11.00 am – 1.00 am
website: http://www.love-teen.net
price: thb 300/---/600 for oil massage 60/90/120 min
price special service: thb 500/1000/1500 for hj/bj/fs
tip: if special service tip included, otherwise thb 200,00

2.3.2. recent updates

october 2007
went there once again, and was not impressed. the rooms are still ok, but this time i had to pay extra for the vip room downstairs, with the bath-tub.

service is quite mechanical, and what i absolutely don’t like is the strict separation between massage and special services, no smooth transition, question, “ok, then i have to take a shower now…” .

the number of girls have not increased, that shows to me that the place does not operate too successful.

feedback from livingstone’s customers was not too good either. i leave the rating unchanged, i don’t have enough infos to change it. if i had to change i would downgrade the place.

april 2007
tried it out again in december, the quality improved. had a very motivated performer last time. will give it more tries in the future. [/red]

2.3.3. general info

love teens just recently opened (july 2006) in the building of the closed hostess bar "lucky luciano" in soi 33. it ovbiously does not belong the the teens group which runs two other oil massage places directly on the oppsite side of the road.

the place was completely renovated and looks modern. if you walk in through the back entrance you directly hit the counter, where you can choose the service from a menu.

the girls are sitting in a room next to that counter. you can select the girls directly, they are lined up then, or from a photo album. there are approximately 10 - 15 girls working there in the moment.

the rooms upstairs are average sized but well equipped. downstairs is a big room with a bathtub - you can have a bath there instead of the usual shower.

the management is did not impress me up to now. the receptionist tried to push me to take two girls - an indication that the main focus of this place is pleasure, not massage.

2.3.4. basic structure of the service

shower in the room, massage, service
…alternatively
shower in the room, service, massage

2.3.5. how to get there

walking from prom phong bts, down the staircase on the side opposite side of where the emporium is, the odd sois of sukhumvit, direction asoke / city center. after 200 m turn right into soi 33. you pass novotel lotus after 100 m, livingstone’s lodge after 150 m, left hand side. after another 150 m love teen appears on the left hand side of the road in a standard shophouse.

2.3.6. remarks

balls massage is on the menu as well as some fancy stuff like "green tea" massage, whatever that might be.

the rooms are really nice and modern, but the service needs some more development. the girls seams to be quite inexperienced for me.

the management has to improve, too. the sessions i had were shortened, not much but at least 10 min. .

2.3.7. links to reports

october 2007, recent reports
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=599947


http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=491340


2.4. lotus massage (ex baron’s)

2.4.1. overview

rating: no-no (unchanged)
last visit: october 2005

type: thai/oil/lotion massage
focus: massage

address: 660/2 sukhumvit soi 24
tel: +66 (0)2-261-3860-2
opening hours: 10.00 – 11.00
price: thb 400/600/800 for oil massage 60/90/120 min
price special service: thb 500/1000/1500 for hj/bj/fs
tip: if special service tip included, otherwise thb 200,00

2.4.2. recent updates

october 2007
haven’t been there again, and i also heard that the rooms are completely redecorated (first half of 2007). and obviously the concept has changed, no fs available any more.

i knew one of the girls who worked there before, one of my mscs. she stopped working there, not enough customer, no money to be made.

no feedback from livingstone’s customers.

i leave the rating unchanged, though that might not reflect the actual service level of lotus. i have to check out that place again.

april 2007
haven’t been there again, and i also heard no rumours that their service level has improved

2.4.3. general info

lotus massage is the successor of the famous baron’s massage. that place was raided by the police approx. 1.5 years ago, closed for nearly 2 months, and then reopened. there are rumors about an ownership change, which i could not verify up to now.

the place looks elderly. if you walk in through the back entrance you directly hit the counter, where you can choose the service from a menu. the front door to sukhumvit is closed in the moment, some construction work is ongoing inside.

the girls are sitting in a room attached to that counter, on the left hand side was a barber shop before – i don’t know whether it is still there. there are not more than 10 girls working there any more. the quality of the girls is low, and so are their skills. it is more a massage place now, but with inexperienced and not well trained massage staff.

the rooms upstairs are small, and run-down now. no renovation was done up to now, still the old barons layout.

the management is ok, but cautious. scared that the place will be targeted from the police again.

2.4.4. basic structure of the service

shower in the room, massage, service
…alternatively
shower in the room, service, massage

2.4.5. how to get there

walking from prom phong bts, down the staircase on the side where the emporium is, the even side of sukhumvit, direction thong lor, ekkamai. cross soi 24, still walking along sukhumvit, after 20 m there is a 7/11 on the right hand side. the next shop then is lotus. i always take the backdoor, just walk around the building via soi 24.

2.4.6. remarks

there are first reports coming up that the service in lotus returns to normal and getting better again. i might try it out again soon.

when i was there last time lotus had not recovered from the raid yet. the girls were scared to undress, nearly none of the old barons girls are working there any more.

2.4.7. links to reports

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=461064
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=435900


2.5. oranges massage

2.5.1. overview

rating: avoid (unchanged)
last visit: september 2005

type: thai/oil/lotion massage
focus: 50/50

address:sukhumvit soi 31
tel: +66 (0)2-261-2038
opening hours: 11.00 – 24.00
japanese website: http://orangesbkk.com/
price: thb 400/600/800 for oil massage 60/90/120 min
price special service: thb 500/1000/1500 for hj/bj/fs
tip: if special service tip included, otherwise thb 200,00

2.5.2. recent updates

october 2007
haven’t been there since long time. no feedback from a livingstone’s customer. rating unchanged.

april 2007
haven’t been there since long time. feedback from a livingstone’s customer was that his girl did not perform, and wanted extra money for a second shot. rating unchanged.[/red]

2.5.3. general info

oranges is a small massage place, catering mostly for japanese customers

if you enter oranges, a counter with receptionist appears to the left. you select the massage type you like from menu.

the girls are selected either from a photo album, or you are guided to a small room behind and the girls line up. i never saw more than 12 girls in the album, usually younger girls. during the line-up usually not more than 5 girls were available. the quality is medium, and clearly the style of the target group japanese, not my style.

everything looks very cultivated, new and clean. the rooms are very very small, have usually only a mattress on the floor, a shower – that’s it. but clean.

the management was not too friendly when i walked there. the girls have some basic knowledge about massage, and i had sessions which were terminated early.

2.5.4. basic structure of the service

shower in the room, massage, service

2.5.5. how to get there

walking from prom phong bts, down the staircase on the side opposite side of where the emporium is, the odd sois of sukhumvit, direction asoke / city center. cross soi 33, still walking along sukhumvit, until soi 31 appers, turn right into soi 31. after 200 m there is a small side road to the left, and in that side road you find oranges on the right hand side.

2.5.6. remarks

on saturdays the girls are dressed in school uniforms, also something japanese customers prefer. but it really looks sexy.

the girls are used to japanese prices. they usually ask for thb 2,000 for fs.

girls ask for extra money for a second shot!

2.5.7. links to reports

october 2007, recent reports
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=636098

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=535549
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=470839


2.6. orchid massage

2.6.1. overview

rating: average (unchanged)
last visit: december 2005

type: thai/oil/lotion massage
focus: massage

address:sukhumvit soi 31
tel: +66 (0)2-259-5770
opening hours: 11.00 – 24.00
website:http://www.paithailand.com/orchidmassage/eng/index.php
price: thb 400/600/800 for oil massage 60/90/120 min, additionally special packages (aroma, milk (!) )
price special service: thb 500/1000/1500 for hj/bj/fs
tip: if special service tip included, otherwise thb 200,00

2.6.2. recent updates

october 2007
haven’t been there again. but the place still exists. no feedback from livingstone’s customers. rating unchanged.

april 2007
haven’t been there since long time. i don’t even know whether this place still exists. rating unchanged.

2.6.3. general info

orchid is a small massage place, catering mostly for japanese and korean customers. nowadays they try to attract more western foreigners, adding testicle massage to the menu.

if you enter orchid, a counter with receptionist is directly next to the entrance. you get seated, select the service from a menu, and the girls are lined up in the reception room.

there are approx. 15 girls working there. the quality is medium, not too much different styles to select from, and clearly targeting japanese customers.

everything looks very cultivated, new and clean. the rooms are small, japanese style, some have beds, others only a mattress on the floor and a shower. but clean.

the management did not convince me, though the owner is on site. though the girls had some knowledge about massage.

2.6.4. basic structure of the service

shower in the room, massage, service

2.6.5. how to get there

walking from prom phong bts, down the staircase on the side opposite side of where the emporium is, the odd sois of sukhumvit, direction asoke / city center. cross soi 33, still walking along sukhumvit, until soi 31 appers, turn right into soi 31. after 600 m there is a junction, on the opposite side you see euro inn hotel. turn left at that junction, orchid is located on the right hand side, walking another 20 m.

2.6.6. remarks

testicle massage is offered on the menu. the performance of it is so-so.

the girls are used to japanese prices. they ask for up to thb 2,500 for fs. but they accept the standard prices!

girls always ask for extra money for a second shot!

2.6.7. links to reports

october 2007, recent reports
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=636098

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=470839


2.7. orient massage

2.7.1. overview

rating: above average (upgraded)
last visit:september 2007

type: trad./oil/aroma massage
focus: massage

address:1/9 sukhumvit soi 24
tel: +66 (0)2-859 8232
opening hours: 11.00 – 23.00
website: http://www.orient-massage.com/index.html
japanese website: http://www.gdiary.com/shopdetails.cfm?shopid=316
price: thb 400/600/800 for oil massage 60/90/120 min
price special service: thb 500/1000/1500 for hj/bj/fs
tip: thb 500

2.7.2. recent updates

october 2007
the place has stabilized. a good selection of girls, not too young, not too old. something to be found for all tastes. one of the best performers of bangkok is working there right now.

rooms are still ok, though i have experienced more and more technical problems in the showers. it would not cost that much to repair that – sometimes i cannot understand the management of those places.

they have balls massage on the menu, and some girls are getting better in this discipline. they especially don’t stop the experience in the middle and ask for special service and take a shower – they usually allow a smooth transition from the massage part to the special service, something i appreciate a lot.

feedback from livingstone’s customers was positive. but still the place has the problem that the sessions are shortened sometimes. the place remains a hit and a miss, difficult to rate it.

april 2007
the place is going down. the selection of the ladies is very average now, and many times the girls in the album are not available. had experiences lately with shortened sessions and very average service.

place cannot be recommended any more.

09-03-2006
and - as expected - more customers, and the place is going down already. i had two experiences there now, mediocre massage, 1 session shortened 20 min. without the management intervening![/red]


2.7.3. general info

orient massage opened in april 2006, as the rising star of the oil massage places in bangkok. most of the girls from patou massage (soi 33) moved over there, together with the management team.

you walk a staircase upstairs to find the counter in a big foyer. next to it is the room with the girls. usually you choose the provider from the photo album, but you can also have a look into the room and choose directly.

the pictures are very close to the reality, what i generally appreciate. no surprises up to now. 15 – 20 girls are working there, the number is rising. a few older ones, the quality is very good, something to find for different tastes, but you find there more the slim category of girls.

the rooms are well sized, not small. they have queen size beds, a small table and a shower. everything is new, shower technology works, everything very clean.

the management is good and friendly, girls are well trained and stay with the customer all the time he has paid for.

2.7.4. basic structure of the service

shower in the room, massage, service
…alternatively
shower in the room, service, massage

2.7.5. how to get there

walking from prom phong bts, down the staircase on the side where the emporium is, the even side of sukhumvit, direction thong lor, ekkamai. turn right into soi 24. after 10 m you see a small road on the left hand side, leading to “lotus massage”. after another 20 m the next small road, to the left, walk in this road and find orient massage after 10 m on the left hand side. you only see an entrance and a staircase leading upstairs.

2.7.6. remarks

they have balls massage on their menu. the quality of it is medium, unless you are not lucky to select one of the balls massage specialists there.

the place is nearly unknown up to now, which will change after this report. we will have to wait and see whether they are able to keep up their quality level.

2.7.7. links to reports

october 2007, recent reports
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=641304
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=636098
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=631548


2.8. rainbow fashion massage

2.8.1. overview

rating: recommended
last visit: october 2007

type: thai/oil/lotion massage
focus: 50/50

address:1-46 sukhumvit soi 39
tel: +66 (0)2-662 4195
opening hours: 11.00 – 24.00
website: http://www.rainbowbkk.com
website: http://www.gdiary.com/rainbow
price: thb 400/600/800 for oil massage 60/90/120 min
price special service: thb 500/1000/1500 for hj/bj/fs
tip: if special service tip included, otherwise thb 200,00

2.8.2. recent updates

this place is new, first time mentioned in this report.

2.8.3. general info

rainbow fashion massage is a small massage place, opened in april 2007. the girls working there are ex-angel soi 26 girls.

you enter rainbow and see a seat group in front of you, the counter to the left. sitting down, getting a drink and select the girl from the album is one option – but you can also go to the girls waiting room and directly look at the available girls.

there are approximately 15 girls listed in the album, but i never saw more than 10 girls in there. they have a lot of part timers, which work in other places, too. but many girls there offer a high quality massage and motivated special service. this is the combination i like.

all the place looks very cultivated, new and clean. the rooms are small, more cubicles, the walls not built up to the ceiling. two rooms share one a/c system. but clean. they have (at least) 3 floors with rooms, and the customers are moved to the different floors to avoid interferences. i never experienced a lot of customers there up to now – let’s wait what will happen after this report.

the management is ok. up to now the sessions were not shortened, and the behavior was friendly and discrete. one more thing i like is that you pay after the massage – you would be able to complain if you are not satisfied. one drink is included into the prices.

feedback from livingstone’s customers was positive up to now, some customers went there again and again.

2.8.3. basic structure of the service

shower in the room, massage, service
…alternatively
shower in the room, service, massage

2.8.4. how to get there

walking from prom phong bts, down the staircase on the side opposite side of where the emporium is, the odd sois of sukhumvit, direction thong lo, out if the city. when you hit soi 39 turn left into that soi. a small side road to the left coming after 20 m – to be ignored, straight on. the second side road to the left after approx. 100 m – turn left, and at the end of this soi (right hand side) you find rainbow fashion massage, a big light sign shows you the way, too.

2.8.5. remarks

the girls are very experienced, you find some girls with a wat po massage training in there.

special discount in the moment, they let you throw a dice after the massage. if it is a 1,2,3,4,5,6 then you get 10,20,30,40,50,60 % discount on the massage fee (to the house) for your next visit.

2.8.6. links to reports

no report up to now.


2.9. teen i massage

2.9.1. overview

rating: below average (unchanged)
last visit: august 2007

type: trad./oil/lotion massage
focus: pleasure

address:14/4 sukhumvit soi 31
tel: +66 (0)2-651-3125
opening hours: 11.00 – 23.00
website: http://www.geocities.jp/bkkteen/eg/index-eg.htm
price: thb 400/600/800 for oil massage 60/90/120 min
price special service: thb 500/1000/1500 for hj/bj/fs
tip: if special service tip included, otherwise thb 200,00

2.9.2. recent updates

october 2007
i had another session there – not convincing again. may be i have bad luck with that place. this time i selected one if the girls their name stands for – young, slim – and the performance was an average massage, a mechanical balls massage – and a starfish fs afterwards. the session of 2 hours was shortened again. i give up on this place.

reviews from livingstone’s customers were more positive than my experience. i leave the rating of this place unchanged, but for me it is a no-no place from now on.

april 2007
had another session there in november last year. quality is getting better, the management obviously has done something. it was still not overwhelming, but the girl had obviously had a serious balls massage training.

she was relatively new there, and she was talking a bit during the massage, asking whether the feeling was right for me, because she just learned the technique. young cute thing.

feedback from some livingstone’s customers range from “avoid” to “recommended”. i decided to upgrade this place and check it out again.

2.9.3. general info

teens i is a small massage place, catering for western and japanese customers.

if you enter teens, a counter with receptionist appears to the left. you select the massage type you like from menu.

the girls are selected either from a photo album, or you are guided to a small room behind where the girls are sitting. up to 25 girls are working there, too much for that small building. that explains why the rooms are extremely small. most of the girls are relatively young and inexperienced. at least half of them japanese style.

everything looks ok in there, relatively new and clean. the rooms are very very small, have usually only a mattress on the floor, a shower – that’s it. there is one bigger room in the basement, with a bath tub. that is the only convenient room in that building – and it is sold as a vip room (!). the rooms clean.

the management is lousy. the training of the girls is insufficient. some girls have some basic knowledge about massage, and i had sessions which were terminated early.

2.9.4. basic structure of the service

shower in the room, massage, , service

[b]2.9.5. how to get there

walking from prom phong bts, down the staircase on the side opposite side of where the emporium is, the odd sois of sukhumvit, direction asoke / city center. after 200 m turn right into soi 33. you pass novotel lotus after 100 m, livingstone’s lodge after 150 m, left hand side. after another 300 m teens 1 appears on the left hand side of the road in a standard shophouse.

2.9.6. remarks

testicle massage is offered on the menu. the performance of it is lousy, except from 2 – 3 girls which know the technique. the official “balls massage” on the menu was the marketing hit for this massage, and they deliver no quality. this is the main reason for me to rate this place as a “no-no” place, it is a place with good marketing and lousy service.

the rooms upstairs are that small, that it is difficult to move inside, to dry off after a shower etc. . tall people do not even fit on the mattresses. it is simply inconvenient.

2.9.7. links to reports

october 2007, recent reports
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=645728


http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=492870
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=481102
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=469390
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=467469
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=448345


2.10. teen ii massage

2. 10.1. overview

rating: below average (unchanged)
last visit: february 2006

type: trad./oil/lotion massage
focus: pleasure

address:sukhumvit soi 24/1
tel: +66 (0)2-661-2799
opening hours: 11.00 – 23.00
website: http://www.geocities.jp/bkkteen/eg/index-eg.htm
price: thb 400/600/800 for oil massage 60/90/120 min
price special service: thb 500/1000/1500 for hj/bj/fs
tip: if special service tip included, otherwise thb 200,00

2.10.2. general info

october 2007
after my visit at teens i a did not visit any of the teens massage places any more. no feedback from livingstone’s customers.

there are some positive feedbacks from customers in another internet forum reg. this place (teen ii).

april 2007
haven’t been there again up to now. i will check out teens 1 first. no feedback from livingstone’s customers. therefore the rating stays unchanged.

2.10.3. general info

teens ii is a small massage place, catering more for western and some japanese customers. that place opened approx. a year ago.

if you enter teens, a counter with receptionist appears straight on. you select the massage type you like from menu.

the girls are selected either from a photo album, and those pictures do not fit well. you better ask to be guided to a small room to the left where the girls are sitting. around 20 girls are working there. most of the girls are relatively young and inexperienced. selection for different tastes is available.

everything is new in that place, and clean. the rooms are small, have usually only a bed, a table and a shower in it. the rooms are clean, the show equipment is ok.

the management – same management as teens i. the training of the girls is insufficient. some girls have some basic knowledge about massage, and i had one session which were terminated early.

2.10.4. basic structure of the service

shower in the room, massage, , service

[b]2.10.5. how to get there

walking from prom phong bts, down the staircase on the side where the emporium is, the even side of sukhumvit, direction thong lor, ekkamai. cross soi 24, still walking along sukhumvit, until the small soi 24/1 appears. turn right into soi 24/1. teens ii massage is located after 10 m in that soi on the right hand soi.

2.10.6. remarks

testicle massage is offered on the menu. the performance of it is lousy, except from some girls which know the technique. the official “balls massage” on the menu was the marketing hit for this massage, and they deliver no quality.

the rooms are bigger than in teens i, that’s why i rate this place a bit higher. but – i still believe it is also a place with good marketing and lousy service.

2.10.7. links to reports

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=463830 http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=457773


2.11. teen vip massage

2.11.1. overview

rating: avoid (unchanged)
last visit: august 2006

type: trad./oil/lotion massage
focus: pleasure

address:sukhumvit soi 33
[b]tel:
opening hours: 11.00 – 23.00
price: thb 400/600/800 for oil massage 60/90/120 min
price special service: thb 500/1000/1500 for hj/bj/fs
tip: if special service tip included, otherwise thb 200,00

2.11.2. recent updates

october 2007
after my visit at teens i a did not visit any of the teens massage places any more. vip teen and teen 1 are connected, they are close together, and they move the girls from one place to the other.

reviews from livingstone’s customers were more positive than my experience. i leave the rating of that place unchanged.

april 2007
haven’t been there again up to now. i will check out teens 1 first. no feedback from livingstone’s customers. therefore the rating stays unchanged.

2.11.3. general info

teens vip massage is a small massage place, catering for western and japanese customers. it’s located at the place where before patou massage resided. that place just opened.

if you enter teens vip, a counter with receptionist appears on the right hand side. you select the massage type you like from menu.

the girls are selected either from a photo album, and those pictures do not fit well.
you better ask to be guided to a small room straight on where the girls are sitting. around 10 girls are working there in the moment, the number is expected to increase shortly. most of the girls are relatively young and inexperienced. selection for different tastes is available.

everything is new in that place, and clean. the rooms are small, have usually only a bed, a table and a shower in it. the rooms are clean, the show equipment is ok.

the management – same management as teens i. the training of the girls is insufficient. some girls have some basic knowledge about massage, and up to now i one lousy session there (see report below).

2.11.3. basic structure of the service

shower in the room, massage, , service

2.11.4. how to get there

walking from prom phong bts, down the staircase on the side opposite side of where the emporium is, the odd sois of sukhumvit, direction asoke / city center. after 200 m turn right into soi 33. you pass novotel lotus after 100 m, livingstone’s lodge after 150 m, left hand side. after another 280 m teens 1 appears on the right hand side of the road in a standard shophouse.

2.11.5. remarks

testicle massage is offered on the menu. the performance of it is lousy, except from some girls which know the technique.

the rooms are bigger than in teens i. but – i still believe it is also a place with good marketing and lousy service.

up to now i was only one time there – so i cannot give a objective rating in the moment.

2.11.6. links to reports

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=492486


2.12. tulip massage

2.12.1. overview

rating: [b]recommended (unchanged)
last visit: august 2007

type: trad./oil/lotion massage
focus: pleasure

address:806/2-3 sukhumvit road
tel: +66 (0)2-391-7564
opening hours: 12.00 – 24.00
price: thb 400/600/800 for oil massage 60/90/120 min
price special service: thb 500/1000/1500 for hj/bj/fs
tip: if special service tip included, otherwise thb 200,00

2.12.2. recent updates

october 2007
tulip is still the place to go if you like the special service experience more than the massage. the services available there can only be topped by the eden club. i refer to the special service, if i talk about "topped".

the massage part in tulip is mediocre at best. it is still a place where you receive extraordinay special service, the girls are very experienced and well trained.

april 2007
this is the place for people who like a bit more hard core experiences, but don’t want to go to eden. the massage part is basic only, but the services generally on a high level. the mentioned nestle is working there – very talented and highly recommended.

feedback from livingstone’s customers generally positive. rating unchanged. for a higher ranking i miss a good massage there.

2.12.3. general info

tulip massage is (together with angel massage) in the most successful operating oil massage place in bangkok. they are catering mostly western foreigners but also japanese customers.

though the place was opened only 15 months ago the building and entrance looks a bit run-down. if you enter the place there is a small barber shop to the right, and the counter straight on. that foyer is somehow dark and does not look inviting.

there are around 30 girls working there. to select the girls they are either called to line up, or simply assigned from the receptionist. a photo album is not available. the girls are not stunning, most of them older and not really skinny. many of the girls have kids. but – those ladies are extremely experienced in their service.

the rooms are just big enough for their purpose, equipped with a bed, a shower, table. basic, not modern, clean. nothing impressive.

the owner / management – saeng and partners. for those who do not know saeng: she is the legend of barons. the girl which made barons famous and successful. her specialty was anal and prostate massage.

saeng knows what the tulip customers want. the pleasure part and all kinds of techniques and specialties are in the foreground of this massage place. some girls can also massage :) …

2.11.4. basic structure of the service

shower in the room, 1st service, massage, 2nd service

2.11.5. how to get there

tulip massage is directly below the thong lor station of the bts (skytrain), on the even side (even soi numbers). easy to find.

2.11.6. remarks

may of the girls have bookings all day. if you want a massage from a specific girl make sure that you book by telephone. the booking system works good.

talk to saeng if you have special preferences. nearly everything is available in there. many girls there do anal and bbbj/cim.

recommendation: go there and take a recommendation from saeng, it will most likely be that what you like.

2.11.7. links to reports

october 2007, recent reports
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=657543
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=656315
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=652439


http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=461400
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=442705
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=442609
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=403931


part iii: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=659351


giotto

Giotto
10-23-07, 09:37
Introduction

This report gives an overview about those Massage places in the Sukhumvit area I have visited during the years living here in Bangkok. All those places can be reached from Livingstone’s Lodge within a maximum of 10 min. ride with a motor bike taxi.

The structure of the report gives first an Overview with basic information for each place (Type, Address, Tel., Prices, etc.). In that section there is a Rating, my personal rating of the place, which can show the following (hopefully self explaining) characteristics:

- Highly Recommended
- Recommended
- Above Average
- Average
- Below Average
- Avoid
- No-No

Then I added the date of my last visit of the specific place, things can change and my knowledge can already be overage.

The Type classifies the place as “Soapy”, “Trad./Oil/Lotion” or “Theme” Massage. The Focus indicates whether high quality massage is available or pleasure/sex is in the foreground, graded with “Massage”, “50/50” and “Pleasure”.

After a general description of the place in the General Info chapter a brief overview about the service structure is provided (Basic Structure of the Service). Then a descriptions how that place can be found follows in the How to Get There chapter.

Finally some special Remarks follow, if there is anything special I remember about that specific place. The Links to Reports will lead to other reports about the place in this forum, if I could find some. Lately I changed the structure a bit, the latest updates on a place are now reported first Recent Updates.

1. Bath/Soapy Massage Places

1.1. Annie’s Massage and Sauna

1.1.1. Overview

Rating: Above Average (unchanged)
Last Visit: August 2007

Type: Soapie / Body Massage
Focus: Pleasure

Address: 18 Sukhumvit Soi 2 - 4
Tel: +66 (0)2-251-5680, +66 (0)2 255-0040
Opening Hours: 10.00 – 24.00
Website: http://www.anniesbangkok.com
Price: THB 1,500 for 2 hours
Tip: THB 500 expected

1.1.2. Recent Updates

October 2007
Not much change during the last few months. I saw one or two new faces, rooms unchanged. Warm water was always available during my last visits, that confirms the information from the management that the water heating system was renovated. No cockroach experiences any more. I added the website (above) – don’t know whether I missed before, or whether it is new. The pictures of the girls are quite realistic.

You really have to know the girls there – the service level is very different from girl to girl. Whenever I try a new girl – I find girls which are only interested in the pleasure business and do not like to deliver a reasonable massage. But there are some extraordinary performers working there either. For that the rating is quite high, but my experiences are usually good there, if I select providers I know.

The management is now writing here in the ISG massage parlour thread, the handle is Aey Annies. In the rooms and at the stair case you find signs, in which customers are asked to write about their experience in 4 internet forums (one if it is the ISG). That will most likely cause more reviews of Annies than usual.

April 2007
Though I don’t like the general set up, and still feel the rooms need a complete renovation – the place gets an upgrade this time. The selection of girls became better during the last few months, younger girls, more skinny girls joined the team.

The service orientation of the girls is good. May be I was lucky with the girls I picked, but I had nothing to complaint about. Feedback of Livingstone’s customers confirm my impression.

1.1.3. General Info

Annie’s is one of the most famous massage places in Bangkok, most likely because it is located close to Soi Nana. I had heard a lot about Annie’s from friends and customers, the basic feedback was always that it was a quite run-down place. After some contradicting reports I decided to check it out a few weeks ago.

The place looks quite run-down. You enter through a kind of bar on the ground level, walk upstairs to the first level of the building and get seated in front of the fish bowl. Wooden furniture, a bar – OK atmosphere. Though it’s in the name: I could not find a Sauna in there.

Around 20 girls in the fish bowl, at around 4 pm. The quality of the girls in the fish bowl was not convincing. The majority of ladies are older and a bit chubby. But I also saw 3 – 5 younger ones, a few were slim.

The rooms are big, nicely furnished, some erotic pictures on the walls, but everything is old. A general renovation would be advisable for the owner. Queen size beds, a big sized bath tub.

The management seams to be OK, there was no attempt to shorten the session or leave the room for whatever reasons.

1.1.4. Basic structure of the service

Bath in the bath tub, BJ (BBBJ), Massage on the bed and a second shot at the end. All services available, some girls for anal available (ask the Mamasan).

1.1.5. How to Get There

Starting at Nana Plaza walk down Soi 4 (Nana) approx. 300 m until on the right hand side a side road appears (7/11 on the corner). Walk down that side road (Sin Roof Garden Bar is there) to the very end at Soi 2, and you find Annie’s on the left hand side.

1.1.6. Remarks

The girls work in shifts, and the second shift starts at 5 pm. Selection should be good around that time.

I was lucky, I had an exceptional good experience there with a 26 year old slim girl. Very good massage skills, and very much into all special services. She could not get enough.

Annie’s is for sure not my favorite place to go, too much run-down, girls selection not convincing – but it was better than expected. Btw. – I did not see any cockroaches. I will go back there for sure to see that specific lady.

1.1.7. Links to Reports

October 2007, Recent Reports
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=650732
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=649808
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=645777
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=642322


http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=421489
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=476546
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=455123
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=476655


1.2. Darling Turkish Bath

1.2.1. Overview

Rating: Recommended (unchanged)
Last Visit: October 2007

Type: Soapy / Body Massage
Focus: 50/50

Address: Sukhumvit Soi 12
Tel: +66 (0)2-229 4652
Opening Hours: 16.00 (14.00 Sat./Sun) – 23.00
Price: THB 2,500 for 1.5 hours 1 girl, THB 4,000 for 1.5 hours 2 girls
Tip: THB 500 expected

1.2.2. Recent Updates

October 2007
Still the best soapy in the Sukhumvit area. Prices unchanged, too, still quite high, compared to other places. I still did not find any website of Darlings.

The selection of girls is clearly improving. They especially added some younger more skinny girls. Though I have some standard providers there - even if I try a new girl the experience is usually good. Especially the massage skills exist there – that makes the difference to some other places for me. Girls who learned real Thai massage professionally can be found here. Some of the best providers I know in Bangkok are working at Darlings.

If the quality of the rooms would improve I would immediately upgrade that place to “Highly Recommended”.

I know that my positive opinion about Darling's is a clear contrast to many negative statements in THE local Bangkok internet forum. But the place is definitely suitable for tourists, not so much for locals or expats who usually find it too expensive there. But for somebody who is new or only a some times in Bangkok Darling is a good place to go.

Feedback of Livingstone’s customers is generally positive (may be because they get the numbers of the my preferred providers).

April 2007
For my taste the best soapy place in this area, though a bit on the expensive side. But – a good selection of girls (around 4/5 pm), something for all tastes can be found, and very good service. In all sessions up to now BJ and FS was standard, 2 shots. Some of the ladies are really specialists in certain service areas.

Feedback from Livingstone’s guests is generally positive.

1.2.3. General Info

Darling caters usually Western customers, tourists, it is long time established. It strictly keeps the price up at THB 2,500 per session, ever since I live in Bangkok. A sandwich option exists for THB 4,000 per session.

You walk through the door, right turn and you look towards the fish bowl already. Usually two English speaking Papasans and one Mamasan on site.

The place is not new, but reasonable and step by step renovated over the years. The rooms are big, the bed queens size or round, the bath tubs big, it is generally clean.

I know that many of girls are working there, but I never saw more than 20 in the fish bowl. Obviously many girls are always at work. The selection is average, some lookers, girls available for different tastes.

The management seams to be OK, there was never an attempt to shorten the session.The girls very much stick to their standard program, that shows that some kind of training is performed in that place.

1.2.4. Basic structure of the service

Bath in the bath tub, BBBJ (most of the girls), Massage on the bed and a second shot after the massage.

1.2.5. How to Get There

Coming from Sukhumvit walk down Soi 12, you see the light sign of Darling already in 150 m distance from Sukhumvit. It is on the right side of the Soi, before you reach the disco Ministry of Sounds (closed) and the restaurant Cabbages and Condoms (highly recommended!). The entry is 20 m set back from the Soi.

1.2.6. Remarks

Drinks are expensive there, and the service staff tries to rip off not bringing the change back. If you order a drink have small money available.

Most of the girls try to please, but their skills of course differ. But the general approach is positive. I never had a real lousy experience there. BBBJ/CIM is usually part of the service, some girls very skilled in that.

Careful with the recommendations of the Papasans, they sometimes support left-over girls, or have deals with the girls to participate in the tip. Better select a girl directly.

1.2.7. Links to Reports

October 2007, Recent Reports
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=633734
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=615105

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=468374
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=438365


Part II: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=659352


Giotto

Giotto
10-23-07, 09:39
Below the actualized Massage Parlour report, October 2007.

I had to split the report up into 3 parts, it was too long.

I added a section "Recent Updates", for those who just want to read the latest developments (in my POV). The latest comments should always appear in red.

Some ratings were changed.

Two new places were added:

- 2.8) Rainbow Fashion Massage
- 3.3) JJ Fashion Massage

Part 1: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=659353
Part 2: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=659352
Part 3: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=659351

I think about taking out the places I don't go any more, because my rating will most probably be not fair any more.


Giotto

John Euro
10-23-07, 16:41
Giotto,

Thanks for the great update, lots of work to do this and a large amount of condoms to check out the places on a regular base, hope it brought you some great fun also.

I am just back in town after being up and down in China and other areas, will get back with my latest BK experiences within a few days.

Thanks,

John Euro

Giotto
10-23-07, 20:37
...
Thanks for the great update, lots of work to do this and a large amount of condoms to check out the places on a regular base, hope it brought you some great fun also.
...John Euro,

Yes, I suffer a lot. Really! Such a hard life - only for the mongers of the ISG :).


Giotto

Randy O
10-24-07, 03:38
Could someone comment please on some daytime BJ bars in Bangkok?

I typically stay in the Amari BLV area when I go to Thailand, but what about other distant parts of the city that don't get a lot of traffic? (massage/BJ/HJ/ar) My thing is Massage places and daytime fun. I can't say I'm a fan of the $$ fishbowl scene, but other more hidden massage places is what I like to find.

Giotto! Thanks for that in depth massage report. Helped me out a lot. Excellent excellent! Now I will put it to the test soon.

I want to know where there are BJ bars? I have been to one in the past, several steets away from Nana. I just walked in, picked a girl, and went upstairs to a curtain booth where had a seat and some fun. Pretty fast easy lazy mans fun, I must add, no hassle. Are these places common, if so where?

Sometimes I just want to skip the massage game and and sit upright, getting service in a chair, k. And I just want to do it fast. I treat all these girls with smiles and respect, but I don't like to pretend that I really like them alot. I hate games. "Lets get it on".

Places places places where where where?

Giotto
10-24-07, 08:11
could someone comment please on some daytime bj bars in bangkok?
...randy o,

[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), sukhumvit soi 8. second side soi to the right, when you walk in you find it after 20 m. on the left hand side.

i cannot tell you how the quality is, i have never been there, and i will never go there.


giotto

Randy O
10-24-07, 11:53
randy o,

[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), sukhumvit soi 8. second side soi to the right, when you walk in you find it after 20 m. on the left hand side.

i cannot tell you how the quality is, i have never been there, and i will never go there.

giottomaybe that's the place iv'e been before. it's pretty hit and miss as far as quality. i guess i have been there three times. the girls are 5-6 (looks), but twice i had a killer-mean- bj's. they had me gripping the edge of the furinture. not bad when you just wake up in the morning. however, when i went back a third time, the bj was timid and weak. she was not very good at it, but no big deal. i just couldn't unload, so i never went back.

i like the theme though, just looking for more of these places. i don't know why you would never try it. i guess there are better oppurtunities elsewhere, i know. thanks!

how about other massage places far away from this touristy sukhumvit area? is there something going on elswhere?

Giotto
10-24-07, 18:31
...
How about other massage places far away from this touristy Sukhumvit area? Is there something going on elswhere?Randy O,

Questions, questions. I have so many questions, too. Life is hard, isn't it?


Giotto

Richo Stevens
10-24-07, 20:44
As I need a two shot place, can anyone recommend a place which is a guarantee? I hate it when it they wrap on their clothes and demand 2k more for some promised action. And second, 2-3 hour session, is that impossible? It seems that all the models only offer 60 minutes, and most of the fishy girls 90 minutes?

I am heading to BKK on Friday so appreciate any quick answers/suggestions!

Old Thai Hand
10-25-07, 01:09
How about other massage places far away from this touristy Sukhumvit area? Is there something going on elswhere?

There's more going on 'elsewhere' than actually goes on around Sukhumvit. The Thai-oriented places are too numerous to mention and are all over the city.

One street chock full of massage places (such as the famous Osaka), KTV, hostess lounges etc. is Patanakarn out in the NE part of the city. Also, there are lots around the Bangkapi area, as well of course all along Phetchaburi and Rama IX. But, if you're only familiar with Suk, you'd need to go with someone who knows those areas, whether local or frequent visitor. It's easy to get lost around there. The best thing, of course is the find a Thai to take you if you going to the nether regions.

NicFrenchy
10-25-07, 09:04
As I need a two shot place, can anyone recommend a place which is a guarantee? I hate it when it they wrap on their clothes and demand 2k more for some promised action. And second, 2-3 hour session, is that impossible? It seems that all the models only offer 60 minutes, and most of the fishy girls 90 minutes?

I am heading to BKK on Friday so appreciate any quick answers/suggestions!If Oilys are ok with you then I would suggest Tulip Massage (BTS Thong Lo) Exit 3 I think.

Book 2 hours and they'll make you come until you can't have a boner anymore! 99% of the girls there also allow Anal (tip is up to you).

PinkPearl
10-25-07, 14:31
masturbation is not sex. no doubt, but it is better than sex. not only that, in my experience it is cheaper, safer, & more hassle free than intercourse. furthermore, you can do it, no problem, while getting a bls anal massage in los. in fact, why even bother with an mp if you are not going there to jerk yourself off? do people actually go there for a thai massage? as a canadian i could stay home and see a pysiotherapist or sadist who would torture me for free.




you are a very sick puppy! yes, i know, but hope one day to grow up and be a healthy attack pitbull!

Duniawala
10-25-07, 15:47
As I need a two shot place, can anyone recommend a place which is a guarantee? I hate it when it they wrap on their clothes and demand 2k more for some promised action. And second, 2-3 hour session, is that impossible? It seems that all the models only offer 60 minutes, and most of the fishy girls 90 minutes?

I am heading to BKK on Friday so appreciate any quick answers/suggestions!
Just book the models for 3 sessions and you will have 3 hours.

And it is 2K per shot, take it or leave it.

Happy now? Next time take the time to RTFF.

Inch15
10-25-07, 22:30
I am coming to Bangkok on November and I’m staying near Seacon Square, can anybody recommend some massage parlors in Srinakarin Road.

Thanks

Fast Eddie 48
10-26-07, 04:33
As I need a two shot place, can anyone recommend a place which is a guarantee? I hate it when it they wrap on their clothes and demand 2k more for some promised action. And second, 2-3 hour session, is that impossible? It seems that all the models only offer 60 minutes, and most of the fishy girls 90 minutes?

I am heading to BKK on Friday so appreciate any quick answers/suggestions!To Richo Stevens,

Two shots guarantee Mp is Catherine mp and Darling mp , I think annie near nana also offer but never try but other mp also offer it if you ask up front.

Fast eddie 48

Retep1
10-26-07, 10:18
I am coming to Bangkok next November and I'am staying at the Royal Orchid Sheraton.

Can anybody recommend some massage parlors in a decent distance.

Thanks in advance

Meaty
10-26-07, 10:51
...I’m staying near Seacon Square, can anybody recommend some massage parlors in Srinakarin Road...
Do a search on my posts, i've posted many many detailed FR's about a lot of action out this way, There are 2 places right next to Seacon, not difficult to find, quality varies, but within a 20 minute radius from there you have a whole range of options, including Sukhumvit if you time the traffic right.

Old Thai Hand
10-26-07, 11:57
I am coming to Bangkok on November and I’m staying near Seacon Square, can anybody recommend some massage parlors in Srinakarin Road.Thanks

I posted something about this a few days ago. Not far from there is Patanakarn Road which links Srinakarin to Ramkamhaeng Road. Along here are plenty of hostess lounges, KTV and massage places including Osaka which is quite well-known. If you do a Google search, you'll find places out around there. Even Biwa Massage is not that far (Rama 9/Suk.71/Ramkamhaeng junction) pretty close to where Patanakarn meets Ramkamhaeng.

Near Lam Salee junction (Srinakarin at Ramkamhaeng) is Black Cat, an ok hostess lounge.

Lover Boy #2
10-27-07, 05:45
I am coming to Bangkok next November and I'am staying at the Royal Orchid Sheraton.

Can anybody recommend some massage parlors in a decent distance.

Thanks in advance

Best to use this;

http://www.bts.co.th/en/map.asp

....and head out to Ratchadapisek (do a search on here)

Your hotel has a free service to get you to the head of the BTS.

NicFrenchy
10-27-07, 06:30
Had the worst time of my life at Akane Chidlom with a Provider called MAYUMI.
http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_woman_mass.php?id=R010359

I selected her (more a lack of options than a choice, really) and was very unpleasantly surprised to realise that she has long arm hair and also Leg hair.

I don't know about you but the idea of sleeping with a Hairy girl is not much of a turn on for me.

You have been warned.

M P Lurker
10-27-07, 12:06
Had the worst time of my life at Akane Chidlom with a Provider called MAYUMI.
http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_woman_mass.php?id=R010359

I selected her (more a lack of options than a choice, really) and was very unpleasantly surprised to realise that she has long arm hair and also Leg hair.

I don't know about you but the idea of sleeping with a Hairy girl is not much of a turn on for me.

You have been warned.
I never select a girl from a bar unless I have seen her get her gear off first so I am not going to get any surprises.
Lots of things will cause cancellation of interest including even fake tits.

A pity we don't have a strip off for girl selection at MPs too. :-)

Perhaps some members are into hairy girls and will go for MAYUMI.
Otherwise you would think a regular shave would be in order.
Most top European girls are well shaved including the pussy but pussy shaving is really only just starting to take off in Thailand and only the wayward girls.

Traveler1234
10-27-07, 13:29
I don't know about you but the idea of sleeping with a Hairy girl is not much of a turn on for me.
.

NF - you're getting spoiled. ROFLMAO

RCA Knight
10-27-07, 14:39
I was in town for few days and made a big round at soapies. Again the BKK soapie cost/quality performance is getting even worser and worser every year.

1. Nataree. The average sideline price seems up to 2600 now. They seem to move a lot of younger girls and new arrivals to the 3200 category, I was quoted most girls this price. And also super sideliners cost 4000. The fish bowl is quite bad. Mostly older ladies. The number of girls seem dropped as well compared to few months ago. The papasan pushed me a 3200 girl from Chiang Rai, he said its a new merchandise. Face so so but nice skin, a little chubby. I took it reluctantly and was a very mediocre session with cbj.

2. Poseidon. The 3F sideline lounge was full of girls at about 6PM. But look closely there was no one stands out. Actually all of them were quite average looking. I was quoted different prices for different girls. The price was something like 3500-5000, with 4000-4500 somewhat the medium. I don't think its worth it, because you can certainly get this medeocre quality at much cheaper prices elsewhere. Poseidon was full of people at the fish bowl 2F, the circulation was really fast. When I sat down the fish bowl sofa and try to screen, suddenly some Chinese group took ten of them out of fish tank.

3. Amsterdam. Went in there about 4. Not too many girls. I was quoted from 3200 to 4600 for sideline. And they have some super model class for 5600 up to who knows. The papasan was trying so hard to push me for a model who just came down. But again the price to me does not justify the quality, for any one of them I saw. But papa was so persistent, so I took a risk and picked her. Price 5600, and papa laughingly extorted 100 from me. She has nice body but did not smile even one time during the whole session. Almost had no expression on her face, So I finished the ice cold session very fast in about 30 min without asking her for BJ or anything. The only good thing is very nice pink nipples, very rare in Thailand. This session makes me feel I am making donation.

4. Meree and Avita. Sidelines 1900, but both stores have bad overall quality the time of my visit. The fish tank was also minimal at 7PM. Left after one ice tea each.

5. Bangkok Cozy. Have 3 groups. The most expensive group 1900. Got a so so looking girl at 1900 with big tits. Long CBJ. Boring session.

6. Catherine. The number of girls have dropped, also the qaulity as well. The 2 groups, I was quoted 1700 and 1900, but non of them cute at all. There were a few 2900 girls. Papa guaranteed me one of the 2900 with good service. I took her. Some bbbj, but I was her 5th round of the day she told me, so I did not make her work too hard. After my session went over to look La Defense. They had a few nice bodies at the sideline section, selling for 3500, but all mediocre looking faces.


Conclusion: From a few years ago, I start to have feeling that in BKK, its getting harder and harder to find a nice body cutie, its getting extict unfortuanetly, and the price is getting very steep for these parlours. And the worst trend in BKK is after you pay so much at these parlours, the service is hit or miss. The recent statistics show me that there are much more misses than hits in these massage parlours, even though the quality has dropped and price had gone up more and more almost every year. In my clear memory up to about 4-5 years back, the services at these Thai parlours were almost pleasant and there were many more cuties on the market. The Thai scene has gone down hill.

These recent trips to BKK really disappointed me a lot. The price of these Thai sideline semi-cuties in the parlours have way exceeded HK 141, and much more expensive than all these gorgeous young masseuers in China best saunas. The quality of these super sideline Thais is many notches lower even than the average cuties in China saunas. And the worst trend is the service in China sauna now is exceeding these Thai parlours. At least in the China sauna, a customer knows what he will get, although the China girls's personality is hit or miss , but bbbj is almost included. In Thailand now, girl's personality and the service both are now questionable in these high end establishments. I have almost all misses again this trip with these very mediocre Thai sideliners who sell twice or 3 times more expensive than these gorgeous China sauna babes who will lick your anal and bare blow you to cum.

Easy Xtc
10-28-07, 07:07
Yes, I would agree that the standard in Thai massage places has gone downhill by some margin, and yes, I also agree that the standard in China sauna's is very good.

You have to look at the macro and micro effects, in China there are just so many people, there is massive demand for sex services due to the male population being way over the female population and from the new affluent rich and so for girls looking to make a quick buck can make plenty of money from working in a Sauna. There is competition for these places, and so, with demand and competition, it breeds good service. Good service breeds more demand, and more demand should breed better service.

For Thailand the past few years have been boom years, due to free and easy credit. This has reduced the need for girls to go working to support families, and so there is certainly a lull in available talent. This has led to the more mundane services becoming the norm, and if that happens demand will drop (like myself who used to regularly do soapie and oil massage, but now due to poor service, I cannot be bothered most of the time, its just so hit and miss now), and with dropping demand so you get dropping levels of income for the girls, and so goes the vicious circle of ever declining standards and service.

When your looking at the P4P market, economic boom times breed bad service, and recession breeds better service. As the world heads into a massive recession in 2009, at least those who love the P4P scene can have good times to look forward to.


I was in town for few days and made a big round at soapies. Again the BKK soapie cost/quality performance is getting even worser and worser every year.

1. Nataree. The average sideline price seems up to 2600 now. They seem to move a lot of younger girls and new arrivals to the 3200 category, I was quoted most girls this price. And also super sideliners cost 4000. The fish bowl is quite bad. Mostly older ladies. The number of girls seem dropped as well compared to few months ago. The papasan pushed me a 3200 girl from Chiang Rai, he said its a new merchandise. Face so so but nice skin, a little chubby. I took it reluctantly and was a very mediocre session with cbj.

2. Poseidon. The 3F sideline lounge was full of girls at about 6PM. But look closely there was no one stands out. Actually all of them were quite average looking. I was quoted different prices for different girls. The price was something like 3500-5000, with 4000-4500 somewhat the medium. I don't think its worth it, because you can certainly get this medeocre quality at much cheaper prices elsewhere. Poseidon was full of people at the fish bowl 2F, the circulation was really fast. When I sat down the fish bowl sofa and try to screen, suddenly some Chinese group took ten of them out of fish tank.

3. Amsterdam. Went in there about 4. Not too many girls. I was quoted from 3200 to 4600 for sideline. And they have some super model class for 5600 up to who knows. The papasan was trying so hard to push me for a model who just came down. But again the price to me does not justify the quality, for any one of them I saw. But papa was so persistent, so I took a risk and picked her. Price 5600, and papa laughingly extorted 100 from me. She has nice body but did not smile even one time during the whole session. Almost had no expression on her face, So I finished the ice cold session very fast in about 30 min without asking her for BJ or anything. The only good thing is very nice pink nipples, very rare in Thailand. This session makes me feel I am making donation.

4. Meree and Avita. Sidelines 1900, but both stores have bad overall quality the time of my visit. The fish tank was also minimal at 7PM. Left after one ice tea each.

5. Bangkok Cozy. Have 3 groups. The most expensive group 1900. Got a so so looking girl at 1900 with big tits. Long CBJ. Boring session.

6. Catherine. The number of girls have dropped, also the qaulity as well. The 2 groups, I was quoted 1700 and 1900, but non of them cute at all. There were a few 2900 girls. Papa guaranteed me one of the 2900 with good service. I took her. Some bbbj, but I was her 5th round of the day she told me, so I did not make her work too hard. After my session went over to look La Defense. They had a few nice bodies at the sideline section, selling for 3500, but all mediocre looking faces.


Conclusion: From a few years ago, I start to have feeling that in BKK, its getting harder and harder to find a nice body cutie, its getting extict unfortuanetly, and the price is getting very steep for these parlours. And the worst trend in BKK is after you pay so much at these parlours, the service is hit or miss. The recent statistics show me that there are much more misses than hits in these massage parlours, even though the quality has dropped and price had gone up more and more almost every year. In my clear memory up to about 4-5 years back, the services at these Thai parlours were almost pleasant and there were many more cuties on the market. The Thai scene has gone down hill.

These recent trips to BKK really disappointed me a lot. The price of these Thai sideline semi-cuties in the parlours have way exceeded HK 141, and much more expensive than all these gorgeous young masseuers in China best saunas. The quality of these super sideline Thais is many notches lower even than the average cuties in China saunas. And the worst trend is the service in China sauna now is exceeding these Thai parlours. At least in the China sauna, a customer knows what he will get, although the China girls's personality is hit or miss , but bbbj is almost included. In Thailand now, girl's personality and the service both are now questionable in these high end establishments. I have almost all misses again this trip with these very mediocre Thai sideliners who sell twice or 3 times more expensive than these gorgeous China sauna babes who will lick your anal and bare blow you to cum.

M P Lurker
10-28-07, 09:14
I was in town for few days and made a big round at soapies. Again the BKK soapie cost/quality performance is getting even worser and worser every year.

1. Nataree. The average sideline price seems up to 2600 now. They seem to move a lot of younger girls and new arrivals to the 3200 category, I was quoted most girls this price. And also super sideliners cost 4000. The fish bowl is quite bad. Mostly older ladies. The number of girls seem dropped as well compared to few months ago. The papasan pushed me a 3200 girl from Chiang Rai, he said its a new merchandise. Face so so but nice skin, a little chubby. I took it reluctantly and was a very mediocre session with cbj.
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I agree that the soapie scene has gone downhill and getting expensive these days. Prices are still good at some places but the girls denfitintely not as good as a previous era. Most of the super girls are real expensive now.
But a pretty good hearted inexperienced girl can still be sometimes found at a good price.

One piece of advice. Don't take the papasans recommendation unless you know he is reliable. Its a recipe for a bad choice, I feel.
He will get a kickback from a mediocre girl most likely.
Perhaps I am too sceptical. Some of them are honest, maybe.

I prefer to ignore the advice and study the facial expressions of a girl for a while. I will take advice from the cheer person if I know them well and they know what I like (but only if I like the girl first), and on the understanding that the cheer-person only gets a good tip if the advice was right.

I'll see what I can find at some of these parlours shortly, but haven't the time to check them all.

Allover
10-28-07, 19:22
Getting an afternoon soapy was always my favorite BKK experience. Mona Lisa was my favorite place for years.

Now its hard to find the soapy treatment in BKK and even harder to find a good selection in the afternoon. I seldom get quoted less than B2500 anywhere. Prices are up and service is down but I still like to visit the MPs.

Member #2745
10-29-07, 00:00
I am coming to Bangkok next November and I'am staying at the Royal Orchid Sheraton.

Can anybody recommend some massage parlors in a decent distance.

Thanks in advanceThere are lots of places to go on Silom Road and you are not too far from Patpong.

But within walking distance of the Sheraton, you can go to Suriwong Road in the Hotel Manorah there is one of my favorite MP's. Great place with great girls. 400 Baht 1 hour 600 baht 2 hours and for 900 baht you can get a VIP room in the Hotel. Negotiate for the extras: 500 will get a happy ending and up for more.

If you go down from the Sheridan to New Road take a right towards the State Tower (Tall 66 story Roman looking building with with a gold top) and right the Post Office is Suriwong Road. Walk just under the freeway on the left side is the Manorah Hotel is is right in the front. Accross the street is the Indian Hut Restrurant (great Indian Food here)

And at the Top of the State Tower is a fabulous Italian Resturant with the best view of Bangkok and the River.

GrandPoobbah

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M P Lurker
10-29-07, 06:14
Getting an afternoon soapy was always my favorite BKK experience. Mona Lisa was my favorite place for years.

Now its hard to find the soapy treatment in BKK and even harder to find a good selection in the afternoon. I seldom get quoted less than B2500 anywhere. Prices are up and service is down but I still like to visit the MPs.
For a good price (a few months ago was 1900 Baht with no ripoffs), try Chaopraya II (not J-One) on north side of Sri Ayutthaya Road close to Ratchaparop road. Look for very short chubby cheer-person named Anne for reliable advice and give her a little tip aferwards if the advice was good.

This place has gone downhill in girl quality for me but maybe has the type of girls other guys like, e.g. many voluptuous semi chinese looking girls (the type that Thai men like).

Allover
10-29-07, 06:21
Mick, I gave up on CP2 several years ago. I just didn't like the quality there. I'll check it out again if for no other reason than your prices seem reasonable at B1900.

Fast Eddie 48
10-29-07, 06:43
Mick, I gave up on CP2 several years ago. I just didn't like the quality there. I'll check it out again if for no other reason than your prices seem reasonable at B1900.Allover,

This place have been going down hill for 10 yr last time I p4p here is 8 yr ago don't think it will last much longer need to renovation badly.

Fast Eddie 48

Lover Boy #2
10-29-07, 06:54
For a good price (a few months ago was 1900 Baht with no ripoffs), try Chaopraya II (not J-One) on north side of Sri Ayutthaya Road close to Ratchaparop road. Look for very short chubby cheer-person named Anne for reliable advice and give her a little tip aferwards if the advice was good.

This place has gone downhill in girl quality for me but maybe has the type of girls other guys like, e.g. many voluptuous semi chinese looking girls (the type that Thai men like).

They do not charge a farang surcharge...and the price is as stated. However, this place has had a huge decline over the last 5-7 years. It used to be a top pick in BKK, but now it has fallen into a very weak fishbowl, with few choices and few good lookers. It is a shame that this place has fallen down. The taxi drivers used to say that I (now J-One) was open and II was closed, as II never paid a taxi commission. It was once a good honest place.....unfortunately on a downslide.

Retep1
10-29-07, 11:20
I would like to visit this place during my next trip to Bangkok. Please let me know your experiances about this massage parlor.

Thanks for your help

M P Lurker
10-29-07, 12:29
my experiences at poseidon were ok but nothing startling, so i tought had better survey a few others in the "ratchada" area (as others have recently done).

first i should explain my personal taste in girls.
slim but not too skinny, real nicely shaped tits, narrow waist but wider hips with a bum like a firm apple and a good gap between the upper legs. face is all important and should be slightly narrow rather than round, white or dark (doesn't matter much as long as not excessively pale) wide sexy eyebrows, big eyes not too slanty, a cute little nose upturned slightly but not showing too much nostril or too sharp as in nose jobs, and slightly big lips.

took the mrt (underground) from sukhumwit (on soi asoke ) to huay kwang station (22 baht).
on one side of the ratchadapisek road exits is caesars and on the other side we have emmanuelle and nataree.

nataree had lots of girls starting from 2000 baht in the fish bowl and also having girls outside (lots) at 2200, 2400, and 2600, the later being the very little very **** looking (but perhaps not) girls. not many of the girls were exceptionally pretty. just young. i actually preferred the slightly more mature looking girls in the fishbowl, but didn't stay (this time).

caesars was more upmarket with on average better looks than at nataree, but still no real stunners to my taste at the time. 3000 baht quoted for the 12 girls in the fishbowl (a quite ugly one had just been chosen by an asian customer - korean?) and 4000 baht for about 10 sideline girls.

emmanuelle had very few girls available. looks like the good lookers were getting snapped up fast. about 3-4 sideline girls who were 2800 baht (i think) the cheer-person tried to talk me into one "super-sex" girl but she wasn't good looking to me. about 6 fishbowl girls at 2400 (2 hours) and about 3 "b" course (body massage) at 2600 baht for 1.5 hours.

i liked the look of no.19 in the b course section. great body but a quirky lop-sided smile. i was only put off by the nose job, however after comparing her nose to the other girls (90% had nose jobs), i decided that her nose was not too sharp like a bird beak and nostrils not showing too much like a pig.

the "cheerman" was saying great service and great sex, but i was ignoring him as usual.

in the end went with b19 whose name was yok (jade). she was light skinned (strange for a surin girl), great cleavage which looked real, and just enough padding for a comfortable ride but classified as slim. long straight black hair.

so paid 2600 baht for 1.5 hours and flicked 100 baht tip to the cheer-man who was trying his best despite my inattentiveness.

she was very talkative, asked lots of questions, and discussed sex matters, so was clearly no 'shrinking violet'. she spoke clear easy to follow thai. i can't vouch for her ability in english as my thai is good.
i liked her straightforward no-bullshit style. she even told me that today was her last day as the period would start later tonight or tomorrow, so she would be off work for a few days (bummer!). this meant she was quite horny and i was her first customer today (as i arrived very early before 3 pm).

i could tell quickly that this would be a fun girl.
once she got her gear off, like wow man! those tits were wide swollen and defied gravity. absolutely firm but soft and 100% the real thing. as no-one will believe me the evidence pics are included.
i don't feel like posting in the photo gallery, as i think its better to have a report and photos that go with it.

the room was quite large and looked good, e.g. no paint peeling off the walls.
drinks seemed very cheap for a soapy.
had a large bath tub and also an air mattress on the tiled section beside the bath. bed and couch down the other end of the room.

first we had the body slide massage on the blowup mattress (raft). she is a body slide girl with a soft but not chubby body. she slides up and down on different angles and our bodies get entwined and then unentwinded as she slides. those fab tits are feeing exquisite and her mound and bum feel just great too. best of all she is massaging my cock while her tits are gently brushing against the balls. this is getting towards a feeling so good i have to concentrate a little as not to blow my load. now why would anyone bother with ancient healing thai massage when can get your balls massaged by superb tits.

we then do the bath to get me clean (as if i wasn't already) and we are discussing exactly what we would like to do to each other.
i get the listerine for my mouth and she does a long intensive clean of her pussy so she can be sure that my tongue will get best enjoyment.

after i'm dry she wants me to sit on the couch so she can do a skilled blow job, but i put her off indicating that i prefer to do her first.

she likes it real slow and real soft. so thats how my clit licking starts. no use lapping like a dog. that will put her off. very gently does it. she tells me to use a finger inside her as well sofly.
this girl is no challenge whatsoever. i have barely got started when she has come already. i can feel the strong gripping spasms on my finger and she is quite vocal also. she did warn me that she orgasms easily and it was coming to that time of month.

so now i lay down for my turn. she gives me a superb bbbj (sorry i forget the details - but my dick toroughly enjoyed it). i was distracted by exploring the depths of her pussy with a finger and gel while she blew me.

she then put on one of my own supplied condoms and got on top, gingerly as she was quite tight (no kids yet). after a slo-mo fuck to start with she lifted herself up and started bobling up and down on my pole.

i turned her over and had a very slow doggy. this was needed because of the uterus position not far down the vagina. i love it slow so no problem.

turning her over to normal postion i noted that her hips move exceptionally wel almost sucking me in with each stroke. now she wanted it all, in deep.

yokky started to yelp loudly and orgasmed again with screams so loud i could swear the whole complex would hear. don't take this girl if you like quiet!

there was nothing fake about this experience (except for her nose) and in fact she fucks better than my girlfriend. she is so thoroughly fuckabale that i can see myself repeating with this girl many times. sorry forgot to get the phone number.

scores:
personality and empathy: 9
face: 8 (deducted 1 for fake nose and 1 for lop-sided smile)
body: 10
bbbj: 7.5 v good but not exceptional
tits massage: 9
full sex: 10
body slide: 8
fun and willingness: 10

on the way out of the room, spotted another stunning girl just going to the room with a customer. going out the front door, another stunner was just arriving.
o.k. not many girls but this place still has possibilities.

a useful link although prices quoted are a bit old:
http://www.soapy-massage.com/bangkok-soapy-massage-5--ratchadapisek-a.html

M P Lurker
10-29-07, 12:45
1. Nataree. The average sideline price seems up to 2600 now. They seem to move a lot of younger girls and new arrivals to the 3200 category, I was quoted most girls this price. And also super sideliners cost 4000. The fish bowl is quite bad. Mostly older ladies. The number of girls seem dropped as well compared to few months ago. The papasan pushed me a 3200 girl from Chiang Rai, he said its a new merchandise. Face so so but nice skin, a little chubby. I took it reluctantly and was a very mediocre session with cbj.

Well its all personal taste mate.
The fishbowl ladies at 2000 Baht were older but still real young to me (I'm 51). Some were better looking than the sideliners in my opinion.
Some of the sideliners looked so young I couldn't tell if they were over 16.
A 30 year old is not ugly just because she is older.
But it all depends on exactly when you arrive as to who is there of course. The best lookers are usually busy.
I think Nataree is probably a good replacement for CP II for a budget monger based on a wide selection and still some OK girls available at 2000 Baht.
Its just that I am willing to pay a little more. My time is too precious to fuck ordinary girls who don't even measure up to my GF.

Ralph Kramden
10-29-07, 13:10
Mick Licker

Forget "Reports of Distinction". I nominate your Emmanuelle scribe entry as "Report of the Year"!

I will certainly venture into Emmanuelle in December lookin for that Lok babe hoping she will put a lip-lock on my love-muscle like she did yours. Those tits look fantastic.

Thanks!

M P Lurker
10-29-07, 13:27
Mick Licker

Forget "Reports of Distinction". I nominate your Emmanuelle scribe entry as "Report of the Year"!

I will certainly venture into Emmanuelle in December lookin for that Lok babe hoping she will put a lip-lock on my love-muscle like she did yours. Those tits look fantastic.

Thanks!
Thanks for that. I'm not an expert writer by any means (some describe it as near English) and not very funny at all, but a little enthusiasm helps.
You have lip-lock on the brain mate. Her name was Yok rather than Lok. Remember B course No.19 too.
Her BBBJ was superb but the tit massage was exceptionally memorable.

NicFrenchy
10-30-07, 03:35
I don't feel like posting in the Photo Gallery, as I think its better to have a report and photos that go with it.I fully agree with that, I think it is much better to read the review and see the pics right there.

Great Review once again!

NicFrenchy
10-30-07, 08:47
I think all of whom have been reading my reviews for the past year or two came to realize that I am a tireless horn dog. Being 30, my hormones are always full steam and my radar always active. My secretary booked me a meeting near Patpong (little does she knows about my extracurricular activities, or at least, I like to think so).

The meeting is the last thing on my mind, what is most important to me is to decide whether to visit SOL before or after.

Meeting being at 10 am, that leaves me enough time for a quickie at 9 am so that’s that. Funny thing, the meeting is about me deciding on some major purchase for my business and I guess whether the deal is clinched or not might lie in the hands (or more specifically, mouth) of my dear SOL service provider. Unprofessional behavior? You bet! (thank god the goods were already approved LOL).

As I enter the place, 2 ladies are already there, one is cleaning and the other is sleeping on Sofa1. I’m not feeling powerful enough to take both so I gently wake up the sleeper. She looks at me and within seconds she is wide awake and smiling (or shall I say Grinning). She reaches for my balls, fondles and lifts an eyebrow; I smile and point to the bathroom, where she gladly leads me. Not a word has been spoken so far and we both know that she’s going to get on her knees and I’m going to be climbing to heaven.

I love SOL, no matter which lady you choose (and they come in all shape and forms) you can be guaranteed a very high quality Blowjob!

I have heard somewhere that the bathroom area underwent a little refurbishment (or upgrade) but truthfully, I couldn’t see any difference from the last time I was there. All looked the same, except for the lady.

I undressed fully and proceeded to sit on the triangular shaped mini sofa/seat. She wastes no time kneeling before me and wrapping her warm mouth around my half erect cock. It only took a few ups and downs to get the full attention and as she wasn’t one to leave anyone out of attention, she spent a great time licking and fondling my balls. If you have never experiences an SOL blowjob first thing in the morning, I strongly suggest you try it!

She undressed completely and gave me a taste of her great pussy, smelled and tasted Fresh! Somehow I felt she wanted to take things very slow and eventually lead to a bathroom fuck, but time did not permit me to indulge in such a long encounter so I asked her to resume the BBBJ (which she did in a beautiful manner). It did not take her long to have me sing the first verse of the French National anthem! I deeply regretted not having more time for round 2 to give her a chance to sing the Thai Anthem for me.

All in all another EXCELLENT performance and experience at the Star of Light on Patpong 2.

With the meeting over, I decided not to go back to the office and work from a café. I found one on Silom road (between PP2 and the BTS) that had very comfortable couches and Free WIFI.

After working for a while my mind started to wander and snapshots of the early morning’s SOL session came to mind, I felt a warm feeling between my legs and my little Brain (read: dick) started to wake up. I felt tense and at this point, I knew I had to go and find a way to release that tension, preferably in the company of a Petite Asian looking brunette (that’s not going to be very hart to find in Bangkok eh? LOL).

Somehow, a trip back to SOL didn’t really sound like the right thing to do so I hopped in the BTS towards Phrom Pong (or Oily Heaven).

I walk into Soi 24/1 still undecided about which Venue I will go to and the ladies outside TEEN are not really inviting enough for me to stop (as a business owner, if you’re going to have girls sit outside to get customers to come in, can’t you ensure they at least look "Doable"? , or perhaps all the good looking girls were busy? But then in that case wouldn’t it be better to hide the Less appealing ones? ). I continue my walk and can’t be bothered by Menthol (the idea of a girl rubbing my dick with Tiger balm isn’t the thrill I am looking for) and by the other smaller Joints (Rynda, Cherry and the likes). I stop at (of course) Angels. I enter and the cashier gives me a big smile, greets me and tells me that Linda is available. For those of you who read my past reviews, you will know that after 2 years of being my regular, Linda disappointed me and I decided to stop seeing her (at the shop of course, no Love involved).

Knowing she was sitting there, waiting for a customer, I had this evil thought of making the cashier open the curtain, go inside the room and pick another girl just in front of Linda (who will probably think I am here for her). Somehow, I feel like being an asshole and go ahead with the whole plan. Once the cashier opens the little sliding door, about 20 dark haired petite Asian females stare in my direction, I see Linda is all smiles and most probably expects I will pick her but I make it a point to look each of the ladies in the eyes and smile.

From the bunch of girls sitting there are a couple I have already taken: Donut, New, B, Pin, Bomb etc. But none of them excite me. They look great in the album or on the website but looking at them in the vestibule, they look tired, Jaded and, used up. I excuse myself and, at the cashier’s amazement, leave the place altogether. I must admit, the look on Linda’s face (her surprise) was priceless, but now that I think of it, nothing compared to next week when I’ll actually pick another girl in front of her. Just to clarify, I am under no illusion that Linda loves me or likes me, it’s just business and me picking another girl will mean a great loss of income for her, and that’s what she will think about!

Back out walking the streets in search of an Asian lady who will help me get rid of the extra stress I have, I am now on soi 26, pondering whether to go to Thonglor or Smile Teen.

I have actually very rarely been to smile teen and the prominent sign outside blatantly promoting "testicles" massage can’t be a bad thing. I walk in the parlor and the Mamasan (same as always) welcomes me as if I was a daily regular, asks how many hours I would like and which massage style; "well easy there, I would like to make sure there is a lady available that I will like first" says I, with a big smile waiting for her to show me the book.

I flip through the book twice and the 2 girls that I would have taken are busy, however, Mamasan keeps on pushing a certain lady (forgot the name, sorry, but pic from the website attached).

I am tired and strongly in need of release so decided not to argue and select the girl. She comes out of the very tiny room where they are piled up like sardines and greets me. We walk the short distance up and she leaves me to get the toolbox. While I start my shower, she asks me if I want her to shower me and I reply "up to you" not wanting to force her to do anything she doesn’t want to.

She does not join me but awaits my exit and makes sure I am dry everywhere.

I lay down on my stomach and before she massages me she asks me how I like to be massaged, soft-medium or hard and I opt for a soft massage. Her touch is exquisite and she known exactly where to let her hands wander a little longer than usual.

I will skip through the regular massage part which was good, and to my surprise, she lifts my ass up and slides her legs below, starting a (not ordered) balls massage. Again, she is very gentle and remembers I like things soft, she uses both hands to fondle my balls and masturbate my fully erect member. It feels really good (but not as good as Rin’s BM).

After a few minutes she asks me if I want "special"? (she is still fondling and stroking) I go for Body massage and BJ.

She slowly undresses (all except panties) and proceeds to give me a slow titwank followed by a full balls licking. BJ was Covered and I made no effort to try and convince her not to use the condom (for all I know, she might be infected and using the condom for MY protection, in any case, if she chooses not to risk her life for 1, 000 thb, who am I to try and force her? ).

She gave me a good CBJ and did not object me inserting a few fingers in her pussy (pushing the panties aside).

She has a very nice pair of breasts and a great body (I liked it). I came in the condom after a few minutes, she removed it and continued to stroke as I was still erect. I asked her "one more? " she grinned, took off her panties and said "Sex? " but I couldn’t even if I wanted to, I needed to rest.

She accompanied me in the shower and made sure I was clean as a whistle before hitting back the streets of BKK.

I will return to Smile Teen soon and maybe taker her up on the "sex" offer (for a fee of course LOL).

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John Euro
10-30-07, 11:41
Up on arrival in BK I was only and in need for a strong Thai massage, mainly because I have been sitting to much in taxi’s and airplanes last few weeks. I was also avoiding our popular p4p places as there would be given more attention on the extras than the real massage and that’s not where I was looking for now, the fun part will be for the following day’s.

Few month ago I came on the internet across a new place for regular massage, located in Suk. Soi 12, just one house past Darling, I remember that this was a disco or night club some years ago, the name is now Lavana Spa, I know a lot of good straight massage Spa’s in BK but I would try first this one out now. Love to explore new things.

It’s a beautiful place, large nicely decorated rooms, herbal shop at the front hall. You receive a form with a body sketch on and you mark the areas where you like to have special attention on. (Junior was not on LOL), first a foot bath and up to the room, a 2h. Thai mass. Was 650 Bth, more than 100% the money worth, a great treatment, I received afterwards a sherbet and thee and a discount card. One thing that leaves a bit of a bad taste in your mount is that you have to pay up front, turns out most of the time as a rip off but it was surely not so this time. ,

Have been there twice a few day’s later for a strong oil massage, lot’s of clean towels and it was just outstanding and if you see that you pay 400Thb in a small barbershop in SUK area where you get only a bit oil rubbing on your back and chest.

No, I don’t have any shares in this shop, I wish I had (LOL) because if they keep there pricing, service and performance like it is now it will be shortly one of the best in BK, at least it’s now in my top 3.

Will get back later on with more sexy reports

John Euro

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M P Lurker
10-30-07, 14:29
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nataree had lots of girls starting from 2000 baht in the fish bowl and also having girls outside (lots) at 2200, 2400, and 2600, the later being the very little very **** looking (but perhaps not) girls. not many of the girls were exceptionally pretty. just young. i actually preferred the slightly more mature looking girls in the fishbowl, but didn't stay (this time).
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returned to nataree today as yokkie at emmanuelle is having a few days off (its that time o'month) and not enough other girls to really get me going.
looks like 7pm might be more busy at emmanuelle.

nataree had some very do-able girls in the 2000 baht b-course bracket today. i relised today why there are so many girls at nataree. many of them are not thai and are dressed in plain clothes for a quick escape if need be. not if all is not above board, you can refer back to my post above to guess what else i suspect.

i chose b-21 nong today who looked o.k. to me, but who turned out to be very short (not even 150cm). she was by no means a stunning performer but if you are looking for one of the nicest, sweetest, honest and no complaints girl around, than she is a good bet.

she let me do anything i wanted and seemed to like it all.
gave her a tip for being so nice.

i am off for a drink with nic frenchy now at a well known monger's meeting place. can you guess which sports bar?

Ralph Kramden
10-31-07, 03:59
ml

that is an interesting observation. i have been to nataree many times and never suspected anything but thai girls. where do you think they are from?

however, i have been suspicious of **** girls on more than one occasion. but i have never tried one because i prefer a more developed and mature body. 18 or 19 (not more than 22) is about the right age for me, and it certainly is legal in case there is authority action that takes place while i am participating in the natural state of the carnal affairs.

M P Lurker
10-31-07, 05:50
ml

that is an interesting observation. i have been to nataree many times and never suspected anything but thai girls. where do you think they are from?

however, i have been suspicious of **** girls on more than one occasion. but i have never tried one because i prefer a more developed and mature body. 18 or 19 (not more than 22) is about the right age for me, and it certainly is legal in case there is authority action that takes place while i am participating in the natural state of the carnal affairs.
before the thaksin crack down on mps, there were many girls with no id card in these places. for example laos girls, "thai yai" (who are not thai) girls from the northern mountains area of myanmar (burma).

so i believe some of those at nataree would be in these categories. i don't know what other countries are likely but obviously chinese and cambodian are quite possible.

someone told me about police raids at nataree, but i don't know how frequent. it doesn't put me off going there. i have been at an mp during a police raid in the past. i was in a room and the girl just decided to lock the door and hoped no one would come and knock (although she wasn't an illegal).

i also think a more experienced girl is better at an mp. after all we are looking for super sex and sometimes find it. on average my mp choices are better in bed than bar girls (just my opinion). 30 year old girls can be great.
i never choose the youngest looking girls. some reall small thai girls can be in late 20s but still look 18 or less, but i probably wouldn't pick them.

NicFrenchy
10-31-07, 05:56
Nataree had some very do-able girls in the 2000 Baht B-Course bracket today. I relised today why there are so many girls at Nataree.

Ha! I really need to get over there and explore them soapies, a lot of Do-able girls? ok, I'm going to visit and report soon.


I am off for a drink with Nic Frenchy now at a well known Monger's meeting place. Can you guess which sports bar?If I recall correctly it was more like a few drinks LOL.

Very nice to have met you, Giotto and Guido @ Livingstones!

Giotto
10-31-07, 07:28
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Very nice to have met you, Giotto and Guido @ Livingstones!NicFrenchy,

Pleasure to meet both of you yesterday.

Massage Parlours in Ratchadapisek Road - can you please check out the main parlours there:

- Amsterdam (on the way to Ratchada)
- New Cleopatra (on the way to Ratchada)
- Emanuelle
- High Class
- Nataree
- Ceasars
- Subway
- Mirage
- Nadia
- Poseidon

Sure there are some more there.

After you have spent all your money there you should proceed to check out the places in Petchaburi Road (will prepare a list for you).

When you are through with that (and bankrupt) please continue your activities in the places around Rama IX road (will prepare a list for you, too).

Later then you should concentrate on the areas further outside (hundreds of more places to check out).

Looking forward to your reports. Good luck!


Giotto

PS: If you need some support please let me know :) !

M P Lurker
10-31-07, 09:56
Ha! I really need to get over there and explore them soapies, a lot of Do-able girls? ok, I'm going to visit and report soon.

If I recall correctly it was more like a few drinks LOL.

Very nice to have met you, Giotto and Guido @ Livingstones!
Yes was good to finally meet up.
There are others I would like to meet but unfortunately am leaving on Nov 12.
But I'll be back at Xmas and the new year.

I wide say just a few do-able girls by my tough standards at Nataree but I know your tastes differ. I didn't have time to count the real big tits.

I would love to help survey ALL the soapies and there are heaps, but my GF is back and having finished all the ironing and preparations for the new school term for her daughter (so so cute 8 year old), will hopefully be helping me forget bar gilrs and MP girls tonight.

I will have to get the Rama IX Soapies done very gradually I feel.
Haven't even got to Catherines and Utophia yet.

Mouse1
10-31-07, 13:54
I have a couple of quick questions that I hope someone can help me with.

Has anybody had a good experience in taking out a girl from a MP for an o/n stay? And more importantly, what would be an appropriate tip for this?

Specifically, I had a good time with a girl from Annie's some time ago, and because I am short of time on my next visit would like to take her our for, say, 8pm to 8am. Happy to buy drinks / dinner / game of pool. Annie's charge 2000Bht for a takeway, and I guess 1000Bht would be a reasonable tip for good service (but don't want to be cheap nor be accused of overpaying by you guys).

Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks

M P Lurker
10-31-07, 15:26
Today had some free time, so decided to have a session with SOL girls Ae and Nong. Alas Nong had her period and offered BJ only and Ae had an appointment for Halloween partying with friends and offered me just 30 mins.

Some people think that bar-girls are driven by money only and that nothing else matters but this is not 100% true. Sometimes a girl will decide to get drunk with friends even though she will lose good money from a customer.

But I wanted to take them to short time hotel for an extended wayward session with very nasty photos, so I took a rain check.

Jumped on the MRT and went to Rama 9 station and from there walked to Utopia (about 10 mins). Intended to go to Catherines or La defense if couldn't find something special at Utopia.

http://www.soapy-massage.com/bangkok-soapy-massage-1-asoke-rama9.html#Utopia_Entertainment

The ISG would not allow another web page with more info on it.
So you will have to web search yourself.
Costs: Prices went up sharply in mid-2006 - now has 1500 baht falang surcharge resulting in fishbowl 3500 baht, left fishbowl 4000 baht, and the sideliners in front 3900 baht (only 2400 for a Thai).

So I looked at the fishbowl and sideliners and wasn't specially impressed. Not many really good looks. Checked out the models upstairs and only 1 interested me at the price of 5000 Baht.
Better look downstairs again.

Sideliners had a couple worth considering. One girl showed no interest in the customer at all. Was looking at something on her lap. So was I impressed?
Of course I was! I liked her face, again despite the nose job that almost 100% of the girls have.

She had honey blonde hair and high cheek bones and impressive lips. She was completely natural refusing to put on any sort of act or show for me.
When she moved I could tell from the shimmering bounce of her tits that they were real.

So I asked Ah (the cheer-man) for #27 who turned out to be "Mot" (meaning ant). Mae Mot means witch so thats appropriate for halloween.
With sideliners we get 1.5 hours.


Turned out that Mot was not a specially talkative girl, and only knew a little English. We conversed only in Thai. The silences when neither of us wanted so say something were great for the soapy bathing experience. Its nice and pieceful.

Mot has an exceptional body with nice firm high tits but not quite to a C cup, 28 inch waist and widens well to the hips. The memorable part of the bath was of course the BBBJ. She has a wonderfully soft touch and goes slow how I like it. I showed her how to gets her tits to brush my balls while she licked and sucked me.

Eventually she asked If I would like to move to the bed.
We had to spend time getting dry so my hard-on went down a little.

I asked her to lay down and when I started gentle kissing she put her tongue in eagerly. Touching her very symetrical perfect pussy, I could feel her juices were running freely.

I gave her the blow job first. With one finger on the G spot and one rimming her arsehole (both were well lubricated by her juice), she was starting to writhe around. When she told me she had come it was quite unnecessary since her shuddering spasms and contractions were very obvious, not like some girls where you just can't tell for sure.

She gave me some more licking and BBBJ to make sure properly hard.
She had a very smooth stretchable pussy and was able to take my dick in fully (some thai girls are too short inside). I like that because sex always feels better to me when it goes all the way in. I don't feel envious of guys with massively long dicks who will almost never find a Thai girl who can take it all in.

The sex was passionate and completely indestinguishable from a real GF except that she is better than most guys girlfriends I assume.

Doggy was slow and wonderful, enjoying the view of her superb arse.
She turned her head so that we could DFK while I used one to play with the wonderful tits (still doing doggy).

Normal postion was great. Sideways also superb. she was giving me the balls massage while fucking and I was giving her the extra clit massage with my thumb (very gently of course).

Eventually we came back to doggy to finish me off, but this was with her two feet together and virtually sitting on her heels. I was entering from behind so that with each stroke my balls slapped on her cool heels.
The feeling was now so great that holding on any longer was not a serious option. We had already been skrewing for a long time so probably the time limit was close.

Cannot find any fault with this girl. Total GFE experience for me.
Will definitely repeat so got her phone nmber (but not telling).

Scores:
Face: 9 (1 point off for fake nose but otherwise cute).
Skin: smooth and same colour as me (light for a Thai)
Body: 9
Tits: 8.5 (a good high firm B cup and very high)
Pussy: 9
Personality: 7 (quiet)
Willingness/enthusiasm: 10
GFE: 10

All in all a superb package and well worth the steep price to me, as I don't have enough time to waste on average girls really.
Maybe one day a private arrangement might be possible.

On the way out noticed sideliner No. 000 was absolutely stunning.
So would be happy with her if Mot was taken.
Got the phone-number of cheer-man Ah also so I can find out who is in before making the trip.

Sorry about the unnatural pose in the pic as she was hiding her face.
Doesn't seem to do justice to her tits.

M P Lurker
10-31-07, 15:39
I have a couple of quick questions that I hope someone can help me with.

Has anybody had a good experience in taking out a girl from a MP for an o/n stay? And more importantly, what would be an appropriate tip for this?

Specifically, I had a good time with a girl from Annie's some time ago, and because I am short of time on my next visit would like to take her our for, say, 8pm to 8am. Happy to buy drinks / dinner / game of pool. Annie's charge 2000Bht for a takeway, and I guess 1000Bht would be a reasonable tip for good service (but don't want to be cheap nor be accused of overpaying by you guys).

Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks
Of course man! Once a girl knows you well enough to trust you she will certainly venture out with you provided she doesn't have a family that MUST be returned to. The price will vary depending on how much money she regularly makes and how tired she gets and even whether she likes you. But don't expect bottom of the range prices. Make it worth her while and it should be possible. Girls that are not that busy at work are easy prey. Girls that are real busy are difficult.

Watch out! You can find yourself with a girlfriend if these outtakes become too on-going. Has happened to me in the past like that, but in the end she was too hot tempered and we split up.

P.S. Girls may be paid monthly bonuses for working a certain number of days or be heavily fined for not showing up to work for more than some number of days, paticularly on weekends. The employment arrangements vary. So sometimes the girl will say I can't go till after the end of month in order to get her bonuses, or not be fired, etc. Often money can solve these problems but not always. Girls with several regular customers may not be willing to go with you to say Phuket for more than x days. So start with single night outtakes till you get to know each other. Make her feel comfortable that she can always be in control of what she wants to do, i.e. don't be too pushy/aggressive. Girls like guys with a good heart (of course).

P.P.S
Some girls will not even ring if they will not show up for a date, because they didn't want to explain that they went with another guy instead.
Thais are like that. "Yes" means "maybe" and "maybe" means "no".
Having her phone number is absolutely essential for when the meeting up goes wrong. She will either be very late, can't find the place, thought it was tomorrow, or didn't mean to come at all.
Always have some backup plans just in case no show.

Mouse1
10-31-07, 16:08
Thanks for the info. But I was thinking of a slightly more commercial arrangement through the MP. So eg Annie's will do a takeway for 2000 Bht, then how much do you give extra directly to the girl as a tip? On a separate thread someone suggested 800 Bht.

In the past I did have a gf exactly as you described! Then I was more generous as I considered my dealings were directly with her, and the MP barfine was an unavoidable surcharge.

Was a delightful experience while it lasted, and keep meaning to write up the saga for ISG one day. Don't intend it to happen again, and only want an evening and night of fun, ie equivalent to LT with someone I know will provide good service.

N


Of course man! Once a girl knows you well enough to trust you she will certainly venture out with you provided she doesn't have a family that MUST be returned to. The price will vary depending on how much money she regularly makes and how tired she gets and even wether she likes you. But don't expect bottom of the range prices. Make it worth her while and it should be possible. Girls that are not that busy at work are easy prey. Girls that are real busy are difficult.

Watch out! You can find yourself with a girlfriend if these outtakes become too on-going. Has happened to me in the past like that, but in the end she was too hot tempered and we split up.

NicFrenchy
10-31-07, 17:45
NicFrenchy,

[cut] After you have spent all your money there you should proceed to check out the places in Petchaburi Road (will prepare a list for you).

When you are through with that (and bankrupt) please continue your activities in the places around Rama IX road (will prepare a list for you, too).

Later then you should concentrate on the areas further outside (hundreds of more places to check out).

Looking forward to your reports. Good luck!

GiottoGiotto,

So now let's say I take you up on the offer and visit all these places, I guess by the time I finish with Rama IX I'll only be able to afford the 200 thb Ladies Opebo customs and probably will be too broke to be able to afford an internet connection to write reports about them ;)

Steve Naive
11-01-07, 08:50
i am not an experienced consumer of services at bangkok's massage parlours. i have been to three other places that offered services, one of which (akane soi 33) was worth returning to. but with one last early evening unfilled, and no hotel room for take-out (since i was about to leave bkk on a night flight), it seemed worth trying.

giotto has an excellent guide to sukhumvit massage parlours which makes it easy to choose the kind of place we're interested in. i decided to go for tulip massage parlor, under thong lor station of the bts (skytrain) on the even-numbered soi side. essential information about this and many other places can be found in giotto’s guide (see part 2, section 2.12). if you use the guide, drop him a note and tell him what you think… or post here.

on arrival, the lady at the desk called for a woman for me. i did not get a choice - i think she was telling me there was only one available then. i went upstairs to a small, plain but clean room, with my appointed provider. she told me her name, and said she is 25, wanted to know my name. she is not a skinny young thing, but there is a lot to be said for a soft, fleshier body rubbing against mine with only oil between us. most of what needs to be said is “ahhhh, yessss”. but i’m getting ahead of the story.

just in case i didn’t know what kind of massage parlor i was in, as i was partially undressed, she touched the fireman and looked into my face with a question mark. i answered with a smile. we chatted a bit, she kissed me, and we headed to the shower.

she bathed all my parts rather well, took some mouthwash, and gave me some. giotto mentioned that many girls in this place will do anal, so as an experiment, i fingered her first in front (warm and wet) then snuck around back. instead of pulling away, like any nana girl would do with a shriek and “i virgin there!”, she pushed onto my finger and made a pleasured sound. mmmmm. i guess i know where this is going.

giotto mentioned that at this place the focus is on the service rather than massage, and that any massage will probably be unskilled. this lady did not even pretend to offer anything like a traditional massage, which suited me fine since i had just finished an excellent 2-hour therapeutic-only massage at hei di (sukumvit, betwwen soi 10 and 12).

instead, she oiled me, and then spread it using her full body. she gave me a good licking, all the way down to those parts i can't see but that she had cleaned very well... and gave a tongue bath over a lot of the rest of me too. more sucking. then suddenly, gasp, a different pleasurable sensation, more pressure as it went from the tip all the way down. it took me a minute to figure out that she had rolled the condom down on me, somehow she made it a pleasure in itself.

then she was on top of me, plunged me all at once. not real tight like some younger ones (note: i don't go with girls under 20), but snug enough to feel great. we worked it really deep, and worked it a lot more. i could feel the parts in the back of her pussy. she tired, so i arched my back and did my part. she seemed to be very into it, who knows for sure what was act and what was natural.

after awhile we decoupled and without discussing it, i was standing next to the bed, she with her backside to me... a bit of doggy style, one of my favorites. again, she seemed to be into it... but then she suddenly pulled me out and moved the tip up. and pushed against me so i slid quickly into her asshole. smooth, nice and snug, seemed clean. very pleasant. i had the sense that i was not going where no man had gone before, because she seemed to feel no pain.

after a bit of this, i pulled out to move to a different position, but she pulled off the condom and wiped me with a wet cloth, then went down deep. i'm not one for bj, or i didn't used to be anyway, it rarely gets me there. but this time i had no problem and after a few minutes of deep throating, i saw the lights of heaven for a few blissful seconds, unloading into her mouth. i think i never had a good one before this.

we stopped and talked a bit more. she knew i had come, of course, but noticed too that i wasn't going limp. need more? she asked, and proceeded to deep-throat me some more to see what i would do. but more was not to be. it was fun trying.

in the shower, she cleaned me up nicely, we dressed, went downstairs.

now here's the thing about money and time. they have a fixed price for 60, 90, and 120 minutes which they show you when you get there, but they don't ask you what you want. i think it was 500/750/1000 baht for oily. when my lady took my hand, the woman behind the desk pushed a button on a timer device which went to the room with us, and there was also a clock there. in the room i asked, and confirmed that the lady's fee was 1500 baht (fs), exactly as giotto said it would be. when we returned, the timer showed how long we had been gone, a bit less than an hour (surprised me!). so before leaving i paid 1900 baht. no request for a tip, only a request that i come back.

she was warm, friendly, efficient. i could not call it gfe - because i have never had a girlfriend please me so completely, especially on the first date. well, not recently anyway. but she was happy to cuddle and kiss until the cows come home. if only i could have a girlfriend like this... but outsourcing the sex is a reasonable alternative.

for sure you can get more beautiful and sexy ladies in other places, such as the gogo bars, where you can see exactly what you will get, and talk to her a bit in advance too. i have had some really nice times that way. honestly, though, i don't think i have ever been serviced as well as this lady did for me.

Xerus
11-01-07, 09:07
i am not an experienced consumer of services at bangkok's massage parlours. i have been to three other places that offered services, one of which (akane soi 33) was worth returning to. but with one last early evening unfilled, and no hotel room for take-out (since i was about to leave bkk on a night flight), it seemed worth trying.

giotto has an excellent guide to sukhumvit massage parlours which makes it easy to choose the kind of place we're interested in. i decided to go for tulip massage parlor, under thong lor station of the bts (skytrain), easy to find following his directions. a lot of useful details about this place can be found in giotto’s guide (see part 2, section 2.12). if you use the guide, drop him a note and tell him what you think… or post here.

on arrival, the lady at the desk called for a woman for me. i did not get a choice - i think she was telling me there was only one available then. i went upstairs to a small, plain but clean room, with my appointed provider. she told me her name, and said she is 25, wanted to know my name. she is not a skinny young thing, but there is a lot to be said for a soft, fleshier body rubbing against mine with only oil between us. most of what needs to be said is “ahhhh, yessss”. but i’m getting ahead of the story.

just in case i didn’t know what kind of massage parlor i was in, as i was partially undressed, she touched the fireman and looked into my face with a question mark. i answered with a smile. we chatted a bit, she kissed me, and we headed to the shower.

she bathed all my parts rather well, took some mouthwash, and gave me some. giotto mentioned that many girls in this place will do anal, so as an experiment, i fingered her first in front (warm and wet) then snuck around back. instead of pulling away, like any nana girl would do with a shriek and “i virgin there!”, she pushed onto my finger and made a pleasured sound. mmmmm. i guess i know where this is going.

giotto mentioned that at this place the focus is on the service rather than massage, and that any massage will probably be unskilled. this lady did not even pretend to offer anything like a traditional massage, which suited me fine since i had just finished an excellent 2-hour therapeutic-only massage at hei di (sukumvit, betwwen soi 10 and 12).

instead, she oiled me, and then spread it using her full body. she gave me a good licking, all the way down to those parts i can't see but that she had cleaned very well... and gave a tongue bath over a lot of the rest of me too. more sucking. then suddenly, gasp, a different pleasurable sensation, more pressure as it went from the tip all the way down. it took me a minute to figure out that she had rolled the condom down on me, somehow she made it a pleasure in itself.

then she was on top of me, plunged me all at once. not real tight like some younger ones (note: i don't go with girls under 20), but snug enough to feel great. we worked it really deep, and worked it a lot more. i could feel the parts in the back of her pussy. she tired, so i arched my back and did my part. she seemed to be very into it, who knows for sure what was act and what was natural.

after awhile we decoupled and without discussing it, i was standing next to the bed, she with her backside to me... a bit of doggy style, one of my favorites. again, she seemed to be into it... but then she suddenly pulled me out and moved the tip up. and pushed against me so i slid quickly into her asshole. smooth, nice and snug, seemed clean. very pleasant. i had the sense that i was not going where no man had gone before, because she seemed to feel no pain.

after a bit of this, i pulled out to move to a different position, but she pulled off the condom and wiped me with a wet cloth, then went down deep. i'm not one for bj, or i didn't used to be anyway, it rarely gets me there. but this time i had no problem and after a few minutes of deep throating, i saw the lights of heaven for a few blissful seconds, unloading into her mouth. i think i never had a good one before this.

we stopped and talked a bit more. she knew i had come, of course, but noticed too that i wasn't going limp. need more? she asked, and proceeded to deep-throat me some more to see what i would do. but more was not to be. it was fun trying.

in the shower, she cleaned me up nicely, we dressed, went downstairs.

now here's the thing about money and time. they have a fixed price for 60, 90, and 120 minutes which they show you when you get there, but they don't ask you what you want. i think it was 500/750/1000 baht for oily. when my lady took my hand, the woman behind the desk pushed a button on a timer device which went to the room with us, and there was also a clock there. in the room i asked, and confirmed that the lady's fee was 1500 baht (fs). when we returned, the timer showed how long we had been gone, a bit less than an hour. so before leaving i paid 1900 baht. no request for a tip, only a request that i come back.

for sure you can get more beautiful and sexy ladies in other places, such as the gogo bars, where you can see exactly what you will get, and talk to her a bit in advance too. i have had some really nice times that way, but honestly i don't think i have ever been serviced as well as this lady did for me.

steve,

a well written report. i have enjoyed tulips for the services offered by the ladies. on the looks side, no many stunners but their services were exceeding expectations, my humble opinion.

i had a regular there called daw and on a few occasions able to get out after 10 pm without fines. she has since left back to isaan. it's about 10 months since i last saw her and her legacy with me still lives on !

xerus

Giotto
11-01-07, 13:58
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She was warm, friendly, efficient. I could not call it GFE - because I have never had a girlfriend please me so completely, especially on the first date. Well, not recently anyway. But she was happy to cuddle and kiss until the cows come home. If only I COULD have a girlfriend like this... but outsourcing the sex is a reasonable alternative.
...
Steve Naive,

Great report, thanks!

Outsourcing - LOL! That's a good idea, I have to think about it.

Good to hear that the Massage Parlour Report was of help for you. I suffer so much for the forum to collect all the information :):):).

Tulip: They will always try to propose a girl, that one who is next in the queue. But you of course can ask to select - then they will either line the available girls up or lead you downstairs to the providers waiting room.

If you want to make sure that the requested provider is available you must call before and make a reservation. Many of the ladies are booked for days in advance.


Giotto

M P Lurker
11-01-07, 14:35
Thanks for the info. But I was thinking of a slightly more commercial arrangement through the MP. So eg Annie's will do a takeway for 2000 Bht, then how much do you give extra directly to the girl as a tip? On a separate thread someone suggested 800 Bht.
N
Sorry I misunderstood. I have never been to Annies and I have never done "official" take out from an MP.
Strange I guess, since I am used to bar-fines at Bars.
I had always assumed it would be very expensive. I wouldn't bother to take out unless I wanted the girl for at least a whole night and probably multiple days. Officially done, this would surely cost a fortune.

Allover
11-02-07, 06:28
Steve Naive, great report but I'm a little confused about how the total cost came to B1900. The girl's fee was B1500 and Tulip was entitled to either B750 or B1000 (less than one hour). Wouldn't your payment be at least B2250?

I'm a big fan of the soapies but I've never been to one of the well known oil joints often discussed here.

LittleBigMan
11-02-07, 07:14
My assumption from Steve Naive is that he paid up front for 60/90/120 for the oil massage to the house but he neglected to make that in his report. Every place that I have been to with this set-up is you pay up front although I haven't been to Tulip yet.

If he paid another 1900 prior to leaving it should have been to the girl. Would I be right to say 1500 went for the FS, and 400 was a tip. If he paid only a total 1900 then I think he got away with a deal.

LBM

Jungle Bluebird
11-02-07, 08:13
Thats a good one! Took my mind of work there for a minute. Great looker too. Makes me ponder about excuses to leave the office for the afternoon LOL

Thanks again. JB



My experiences at Poseidon were OK but nothing startling, so I tought had better survey a few others in the "Ratchada" area (as others have recently done).....

John Euro
11-02-07, 12:04
after being in china in more polluted areas than bk, i needed a good body scrub with some extras this in order to get rid from the dirt and realise the pressure from junior, only one place came up in my mind and that was sazanka where both parts are always well treated.

i like to have the girls fresh from home and not to tired late night so i headed there at noon time, arrived at 12. 15, the papasan’s greeted me and apologized not having a seat for me. the place was already full with 4 koreans on the sofa’s and at the next table 2 japanese heavy buddha type men with also the cards in there hands.

it’s always my junior his brains that is doing the thinking in this kind of places but for one time big brain took over, i had a great inspiration. , i was standing beside the box lockers and called papas an back to me, i gave him the name from my favourite therapist and told him " need right now! " big smile on his face, i think he remembered the small tip’s i leave him when leaving his shop (little things can make a lot sometimes). he headed to a table, took a card away from the jap’s and showed it to me to make sure it was the right girl, i confirmed with a big yes and asked for the 2h treatment. this was now my first step at the staircase to heaven

the nippons and kia’s have normally more patience than i do and having in mind that there are only 3 wet rooms i would not take the risk having the whole bunch in front of me and have to wait 45 min. longer and the risk my girl was gone. so good decision from big brains, 5 girls came down to the curtain area, i took mine in my arms and what did i see, yes, both jap’s took 2 girls, waw. looks good un for them.

the undressing part took a bit longer than normal as we started hugging and kissing from the beginning as she so was happy to see me again (me also off course), so this means that i was only the third person to join the wet room, the buddha’s are having big fun next door, lots of noise and giggle, water splashing wave aside comments from the girls and al that sounds more than just a first timer for a scrub only.

i have let here do the normal scrub and wash works with now and then some kissing and hugging with more attention on junior than in the normal package, actually a little taste of bbbj was include, this could not go wrong, heaven was nearby,

once up in the cabin i undergo the normal hot towel ceremony on my back but at the turn around sign i could not wait any longer, i pulled my girl on top of me, long deep kisses and i pulled here knickers all the way down, started fingering here with good return in deep kisses, on a certain moment she moved a bit upwards to give e better access to here sweet spot and she was sitting on here knees straight above my chest. maybe i am a bad understander on what she wanted but with the little black bush in front of my eyes, the view was to tempting for me. i pulled here over to my face with the little clit on my mount with no resistance from here site, maybe for this reason she moved above my chest? . i kept on sucking and licking her clit till she came this with here fingers in here mount for not making any noise. she cleaned my face with a towel and again a deep kiss.

she moved on here knees to the side of the stretcher and proceeded with one of the best bbbj ever and did it in full slow motion since i asked slowly, i kept on fingering here tight pussy till my final explosion with cim. i could not believe that i could hold my load that long but this was thanks to the professional slow blow works from my girl. i have definitely displaced the standard menu borders here, i think i could have gone easily for fs because she was rubbing several times here wet pussy against my dick, hard for me not to go in but it would have been difficult as i hardly could bring one finger in it and i had no rubber with me. finally in heaven, must say that i like to stick as close at the standard package, i like the scrub so much now en then.

i am very sure that fs is possible, in the cabin next to us was the noise from a shaking and bouncing stretcher, noise from a girl that was on here way to come and finally she did, my girl gave me a sign with left thumb and finger in a circle and moving here right middle finger in and out meaning to what happen next door: fs. told here next time we do also? .

maybe i am wrong but i am almost sure that fs or bbbj is not allowed, wile she was giving me the bbbj, i had here skirt up till here back, she was always on alert, every time when we hear some footsteps in the corridor she pulled here skirt down and stopped with the works and just doing a bit massage till the noise was gone.

on our way to the shower i saw 2 girls leaving one of the buddha guy rooms dressed with a small see trough ‘ almost noting covered ‘ thing (would not call it a dress) a real invitation to touch the body and more, at previous occasions at sazanka i had girls that had been dressed with tight shorts and closed top and did not allow me to touch anything. it was for me again just mind blowing. so all depend on the girl you know there and the chemistry with here. i gave here a tip according to the extra gfe works and bbbj.

john euro

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Mouse1
11-02-07, 23:56
Well, I'm guessing 2000 Bht to the MP and say 1000 Bht to the girl. That's 3000 Bht for long-time (whole night), but with guaranteed good service. Perhaps a few beers and dinner as well. Seems not over expensive...


Sorry I misunderstood. I have never been to Annies and I have never done "official" take out from an MP.

Strange I guess, since I am used to bar-fines at Bars.

I had always assumed it would be very expensive. I wouldn't bother to take out unless I wanted the girl for at least a whole night and probably multiple days. Officially done, this would surely cost a fortune.

Mouse1
11-03-07, 00:02
Steve, great report.

Can anyone recommend a particular girl at Tulip's for great service and good looks (and I appreciate each has their own taste)? I am anxious to avoid either mamasan's recommendation or facing the line-out (because I fancy a change from the girl I have seen a couple of times before, and I would be too embarassed not to pick her). Is the picture on their web-page reasonably up to date?

Thanks


I am not an experienced consumer of services at Bangkok's massage parlours. I have been to three other places that offered services, one of which (Akane Soi 33) was worth returning to. But with one last early evening unfilled, and no hotel room for take-out (since I was about to leave BKK on a night flight), it seemed worth trying.

Giotto has an excellent guide to Sukhumvit Massage Parlours which makes it easy to choose the kind of place we're interested in. I decided to go for Tulip Massage Parlor, under Thong Lor station of th

M P Lurker
11-03-07, 07:06
Well, I'm guessing 2000 Bht to the MP and say 1000 Bht to the girl. That's 3000 Bht for long-time (whole night), but with guaranteed good service. Perhaps a few beers and dinner as well. Seems not over expensive...
You would need to get a reliable independent view on how much of the 2000 Baht goes to the girl if any. If she got none of it, she would certainly not be happy with 1000 Baht long time. Even if she got half she may well be unhappy. Depends on the girl's individual situation. Best to talk to her first and negotiate to find out what she would be happy with. Thats what I would do. I never negotiate too tough for fear of spoiling the girls mood about the whole deal. I want to have a fun time rather just a fuck. If she wants too much, then better to take someone else.