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Master Yoda
04-12-07, 15:08
Agreed.. Spanish is important and in fact it will probably make YOU (I.e. the gringo) feel like you have a better chance. But bottom line... I'd put fun and respectful as #1 and #2. You can speak Spanish and be a bore or an ass and well.. I guess you can pay for sex. Or you can can be fun and respectful and not have a clue how to say My name is Billy Bob and you still might get in the pants of a 10. Obviously Spanish helps... but attitude is more important in my opinion. After all, when she talks about you with her freinds the next day do you think she's going to say "I slept with this gringo because he was so fun and an absloute prince." Or do you think she's going to say to her friends, "I slept with this gringo because he spoke Spanish?"

Spanish is just the icing on the cake.

I feel its about but not limited to;

i speaking spanish
ii spending time
iii having money - yes all women are ***** at the end of the day.
iv and of course good attitude.

i am not sure how much game one needs but i am thinking the more the better. you probably wouldnt need SUPER-game like here in the states.

Basically I cant see myself losing. I make decent money and i can work from anywhere, I can afford to spend many months in Latin America and I speak conversational spanish, plus I have an 8inch cock which can work without Vitamin V or C at times.

I cant see myself losing at the moment even though i am an old fart.

Regulr Travlr
04-12-07, 20:11
What have I ever done to you for you to be such a prick to me?


Reply: I have never met you,(don't care to), but when someone comes on this board, collects info from everyone and then tries to tell us he has a copyright on it, just does not sit right with me. Take it, I don't post as much as I would like to,(don't have the time), Not a day goes by when I don't get pm's with questions on different destinations. I always answer them the best I can. Even though Jackson has cleaned up your stupidity, and placed you on "borrowed time", I still have not seen any apology on your part. I applaud you for your efforts to help pay for a very expensive hobby, but take it elsewhere.

This will be the last comment about this "guide". I admit I took it too far. But anyone here who knows me, will tell you, I always call it the way I see it.

No more PM's please.........................

As my good friend Rodney King used to say.

Scooby - I have had a chance to meet and monger with Fantasy. He has a very strong sense of business ethics and I think that is what he is expressing here, in his own subtle way. (He also has a great ability with the chicas). I have my own ideas on the copyrighting thing, which kind of go along with Fantasy's. Good idea but since a lot of the material came from here, it is hard to pull it back. So if you want to market it, go ahead. Put up an internet site and sell it in PDF format. The reality is that although this site is very active I have met A LOT of mongers in various countries who have never heard of or used this site. So there can be a market there.

I appreciate your help in getting me hooked up with Alvero as well as the other info and your guide. It saved me a lot of time of doing something similar. But once the kimono is open it's hard to go put the snatch away. (BTW - It is still up on another board.)

In general both Fantasy and Scooby have added much to the board. Besides we should save our anger for guys like ESCORT KING who waste bandwith with hundreds of one liners and can't find the time to put up a decent report.

Regulr Travlr
04-12-07, 20:37
I agree that Mayorista is the safest of the street areas. I also like the food there from the street vendors as well as the it down restaurants.

Many of the Mayorista girls will not leave the area because they too feel safe there. So if you find a street girl that is to your liking I recommend the Hotel Monterrey which is in the middle of the strip for $11,000 cop 1.2hr ST fee. However for a much better hotel and room just go around the corner to any of the three large hotels. My favorite is La Manarcha which is $22,000 cop for 3 hours and has hot and cold water, TV, CD/Radio & room service.


Cheers,


Cubanut


PS. Please remember that many of the Mayorista girls are young and very inexperienced at pleasing a man. For the most part they are used to truckers fucking them for 5 to 10 minutes then popping. Take some lube with you as well as well as your favorite brand of condoms because most of the hotels on the strip sell shitty condoms, however the Monarcha sells good ones and in variety and also sells lube. The lube will make it more comfortable for the girl and she will get into the act more.

Cubanut

Great comments about this place. Went here on two different nights. I reported on one in the VIP section. But to paraphrase, you are correct about many of the girls not wanting to leave their "comfort zone". Most wanted to use the local facilities. But I appreciate your info about the nicer hotels. I will have to take a look at these next time. The first night we were there, it was pretty late and since we negotiated with a group for a couple of hours they were good with it. The other night we went there, it was much earlier and we were not succesful getting any takeaway. The talent at that hour did not seem as good, perhaps also our rum levels were much lower.

A caution about the food though. We sat and had a few beers and watched the vendors at the stands. They kept cooking and adding more food to the piles without selling very much. Apparently it must move at the end of the night. But I would be a little worried about how long some of that meat sits there.

Polvo
04-12-07, 21:03
Cubanut

Great comments about this place. Went here on two different nights. I reported on one in the VIP section. But to paraphrase, you are correct about many of the girls not wanting to leave their "comfort zone". Most wanted to use the local facilities. But I appreciate your info about the nicer hotels. I will have to take a look at these next time. The first night we were there, it was pretty late and since we negotiated with a group for a couple of hours they were good with it. The other night we went there, it was much earlier and we were not succesful getting any takeaway. The talent at that hour did not seem as good, perhaps also our rum levels were much lower..........

Regulr Travlr:

Just to confirm I am tracking this correctly, that the picture is of a "street" girl and is the one that also features in your post 577835??

If so, I need to re-calibrate!! And a number!! Delicious.

Thanks.

Polvo

Regulr Travlr
04-12-07, 22:36
Regulr Travlr:

Just to confirm I am tracking this correctly, that the picture is of a "street" girl and is the one that also features in your post 577835??

If so, I need to re-calibrate!! And a number!! Delicious.

Thanks.

Polvo

Yes, that is the same girl, just an additional view. The sad part is I think I have her number in my monger phone/Colombian SIM. But I have no idea what her name was. She was the 3rd girl of a day filled with much libation. But I do remember her service was actually very good. I think, happy to be away from the "truck drivers" that Cubanut refers to. Part of it was that the 6 of us had quite a festive atmosphere when we got back, before the action started. Worth a late night hunt on Mayorista.

Polvo
04-13-07, 02:37
Yes, that is the same girl, just an additional view. The sad part is I think I have her number in my monger phone/Colombian SIM. But I have no idea what her name was. She was the 3rd girl of a day filled with much libation.........Worth a late night hunt on Mayorista.

Regulr Travlr:

Icon for doffing hat. My compliments. That AND two others in the same day - I am struggling with a girl like that being "street trade"!! .......Yes, I am jealous. Yes, I need to divert my next flight! And if you ever want your SIM cloned I have that capability!!

Respectfully yours!

Polvo

Ricker
04-13-07, 03:02
The sad part is I think I have her number in my monger phone/Colombian SIM. But I have no idea what her name was.

Tatiana ...

Cubanut
04-13-07, 03:29
Ay Ricker,

Our little Mayorista Cutie #1 is making quite a name for herself. Tatiana? Glad you remember her name because, as usual, I didn't. Maybe I never asked??

I concur gents that she is a little sweetie and definately worth the $20,000 cop (ST fee that is).

Tatiana was a good Mayorista experience for sure, she gave great BBBJ and enthusiastic love making and after our session I asked her if she had any friends as good as she was and she said she did. I was surprised that she meant her friend was available right there at Mayorista. She introduced me to her friend (again don't remember her name) and I drilled her about being as good in the sack as her friend as we all sat at one of the food stand tables and munched on some chicken and beef. She told me what she could do for me and assured me I would be as pleased with her as I was with Tatiana.

After our meal I made small talk to continue to give my Johnson some additional recoup time from my session with Tatiana. When I felt the time was right we hit a diferent hotel and went at it like wildcats. True to her word she too gave BBBJ and was a good toss in the hay.

She had to work me harder than Tatiana but did so with good enthusiasm. Our session ended with a happy ending dripping into her mouth (albeit she spat it out). Good girl that Mayorista Cutie #2.


Cheers,



Cubanut

Polvo
04-13-07, 03:30
Tatiana ...

OK. If you see a short, fat, ugly gringo in Mayorista yelling "Tatiana" and checking out every paisa's right cheek (lower) for an identifying scar - that will be me.

Suerte!

Polvo

Regulr Travlr
04-13-07, 13:20
I am diving for my Colombia SIM card to see if that name is in there. It certainly rings a bell somewhere in the recesses of my brain. She would be worth a return visit.

Tatiana helped do the selection of her friends for Spider and Bono the night we were there. She was not at all shy about being specific with her friends about the requirements. She was also not upset that they went through 3 or 4 girls before making their final selection. (Actually Spider wanted to take 3 or 4 girls.)

Col Bog 1
04-17-07, 02:14
I managed to be free this afternoon and, of course, decided to hunt some action. I fixed my choice on Ave 33 Taberna Luna and Luna Lunera Ave33 63b-201 & 219

It is not very easy to find if you come from the Poblado because it is on the opposite side of the Ave 33 beyond the Calle 63b on the side you are coming.

So just ask the taxi driver to let you on Ave 33 and 64, take the pedestrian bridge to cross the Ave33, turn right and then keep walking till the hotel.

This hotel is a motel, and the Taberna and Luna place.

I entered and was driven to the room where the girls were.

That room was very dark and I couldnít see a girl before I got use to it.

I was presented to 10 girls, 4 doable (5/6), 1 very cute (8/9) Tall slim blonde, nice natural tits.

I asked to talk to the cute and asked her if she would do a BBBJ and anal.

She said NO twice, offered to ask to her friend who said no just the same.

I then walked till one of the doable and then again, no way.

So I left and walked till Abydoss (Ave 33 64-198) very close by (2 minutes walk). I entered and was introduced to a well furnished and decorated house where I was introduced to 12 girls.

These girls are the same that work in Loutron (I recognise some of them), and the ceremonial is just the same:

The girl enter, the Mama San says her name, the girl has a white overall, takes it off, she is in "lingerie", and let you admire her front, then her back, take the white overall on again, say good bye, and leave.

At this game, I saw some very nice girls, but was astonished by a tall, very slim, and marvellous brunette.

She is a 10 with no hesitation (even if she has small breast) and respond to the name of Maria Jose. That girl is really dangerous, I could fell in love for her amazing beauty, and she looked shy which make the love feeling even stronger to me. Unfortunately (or not? ), she wouldnít make a BBBJ, and wanted 100KCop for anal if I was not too big! So I thought, whatís the use? Going with a perfect 10 and not been able to act as I like with her. Thatís just too frustrating, and, Iím always afraid of the perfect 10.

So, believe it or not, but I said no.

Then, I talked to the Mamasan and explained her what I was looking for, she then proposed me Manuela.

Manuela came, a mid size blond girl, with an average face, small naturals tits, a 6 but a girl who was supposed to know how to please me!

So we start the bargain process.

Abydoss is 83KCop for an hour with relation, Manuella wanted 80 for BBBJ and anal. I told her that I could go to the centre (Kamasutra for example) and have a very good service for 80 including BBBJ & anal.

SO, we finally "bargained" for 133 (83 + 50), and we went down to the room. Rooms are in very good shape, and all have a private bathroom with very hot water (beware! ). The light is poor but if you let the bathroomís light on itís ok.

We started with a shower and then, start the mutual exploration between the boiling and icy shower.

After the shower, I asked for some pictures and she said. YES! Without face. As the only place with light was in the bathroom, thatís where we made them (sorry for the bad environment).

We then went to the bed and started with my favourite oral exploration. Manuela went directly into the BBBJ and did it pretty good.

We remained in that for quite a while, and I guess that Manuela was not feeling "safe" because she didnít abandoned me her anatomy, she would always have her legs willing to close, thatís not a good sign when itís from the beginning, but she left me do as I like while she was sucking me well.

After that, we made something interesting, as I wanted to rub my best friend with her pussy and ass, she got on her side, closed very firmly her legs and drove me into her legs. As she had some lub, I had the impression of a Bare back penetration! I know itís a fake, but if itís good, why not?

Finally she covered me and wanted me to get in her butt immediately.

I said that I wanted to do her pussy first; she then warned me that we only had 20 minutes left.

So I did her pussy for 5 minutes and then explored the Hellís back door.

Manuela is a real anal pro, and she took me apparently with ease, I did her anal for the 15 remaining minutes, and believe me, I was sweating and breathless and had to stop 3 or 4 times to recover.

We made several positions (doggy, missionary, on the side, .), and I had the impression of doing a porno star that handled everything! Quite amazing! I donít know how I managed it, but I remained active till the last minute and then relax and came. She was good enough for not expulsing me immediately and I could recover for 2 minutes staying in her ass.

We then separate, and she took the condom out of my dick.

Then, we showered again (I was really dead exhausted), got dressed and kissed good bye.

Then I paid the Mamasan and left Abydoss on a small cloud.

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Col Bog 1
04-17-07, 17:37
So sorry for the mistake.

Here are the Manuela's pictures

Hobby Rookie
04-17-07, 20:37
Well guys, I have to commend Jackson and all the contributors to this board who together have made this a valuable resource for our "hobby".

I chose my handle when I first started and stuck with it but I have several years under my belt in the US hobby (escorts) and have always wanted to explore possibilities outside of the "sex prison" as a lot of you call it.

Recent developments have cleared the way for me to get rid of the "leash" and explore new territory. Needless to say I have been trying like hell to soak up as much info as possible about my first destination: MDE.

Although I have first-hand experience with Colombian women, and speak Spanish fluently, I will probably have some questions at some point.

I just want to make sure I read everything available before wasting anyone's time.

One day I hope to be able to contribute a fraction of the information all of you have been generous enough to give.

HR

Malodr
04-17-07, 23:45
Ay Ricker,

Our little Mayorista Cutie #1 is making quite a name for herself. Tatiana? Glad you remember her name because, as usual, I didn't. Maybe I never asked??

I concur gents that she is a little sweetie and definately worth the $20,000 cop (ST fee that is).

Tatiana was a good Mayorista experience for sure, she gave great BBBJ and enthusiastic love making and after our session I asked her if she had any friends as good as she was and she said she did. I was surprised that she meant her friend was available right there at Mayorista. She introduced me to her friend (again don't remember her name) and I drilled her about being as good in the sack as her friend as we all sat at one of the food stand tables and munched on some chicken and beef. She told me what she could do for me and assured me I would be as pleased with her as I was with Tatiana.

After our meal I made small talk to continue to give my Johnson some additional recoup time from my session with Tatiana. When I felt the time was right we hit a diferent hotel and went at it like wildcats. True to her word she too gave BBBJ and was a good toss in the hay.

She had to work me harder than Tatiana but did so with good enthusiasm. Our session ended with a happy ending dripping into her mouth (albeit she spat it out). Good girl that Mayorista Cutie #2.

Cheers,

CubanutHopefully she will be around in June.

Midwest
04-19-07, 00:04
I loved Costa Rica 2 yrs. ago & was doing some research in this fine website before going back there in mid. May.

Then I read a post by ďlost in paradiseĒ in the C.R. photo section. (6/27/05) comparing Colombia babes to C.R.

Then I checked out the Medellin forum, I guess C.R. can wait.

I hope to be there in mid May, so if any monger that posts in this forum is around, let me know. Iíd like to buy you a beer. Itís the least I can do for all the info. you guys provide.

Hope to contribute & give back to this forum soon.

wj

Ford
04-19-07, 21:41
I loved Costa Rica 2 yrs. ago & was doing some research in this fine website before going back there in mid. May.

Then I read a post by ďlost in paradiseĒ in the C.R. photo section. (6/27/05) comparing Colombia babes to C.R.

Then I checked out the Medellin forum, I guess C.R. can wait.

I hope to be there in mid May, so if any monger that posts in this forum is around, let me know. Iíd like to buy you a beer. Itís the least I can do for all the info. you guys provide.

Hope to contribute & give back to this forum soon.

wj


Hi Wj,

Well, I won't be around in May....I'll be in the DR but I'm glad your going to make a trip to MDE. "Paisa's" are beautiful women and meeting them and dating them on their native soil is going to be a %100 more enjoyable experience than it would be in CR.

I've been to both CR and MDE 2x and although I enjoyed myself both times in both places, I have found that CR is best for inexperienced travelers with very limited Spanish who want desperately to become "players" but are hesitant to "dip their feet in the deep side of the pool."

MDE will be a great experience for you and depending on the amount of planning you do and your level of Spanish could be a life changing adventure!

I know guys who took one trip to Medellin and had so much fun that they were meeting with a realtor re: a condo purchase by their second trip!:)

Cheers and have a great time!

Malodr
04-19-07, 23:38
I loved Costa Rica 2 yrs. ago & was doing some research in this fine website before going back there in mid. May.

Then I read a post by ďlost in paradiseĒ in the C.R. photo section. (6/27/05) comparing Colombia babes to C.R.

Then I checked out the Medellin forum, I guess C.R. can wait.

I hope to be there in mid May, so if any monger that posts in this forum is around, let me know. Iíd like to buy you a beer. Itís the least I can do for all the info. you guys provide.

Hope to contribute & give back to this forum soon.

wjAfter seeing the Colombianias in Costa Rica, I had to see Cartengna last year. Next month I will be in Medillion. Colombia is a must.

Tom 33
04-20-07, 00:31
If you have limited experience in Colombia, you might want to consider CTG first. MDE is wonderful, but you need to know the area some. If you must come here, be careful.

Col Bog 1
04-20-07, 03:36
This afternoon I was thinking of going to Oriente Lejano, but when I started to read the reports, I finally decided not to go. Why should I pay 150KCop (or more) if I can have a real nice girl for 40?

So, I finally made up my mind to return to Kamasutra where I have been really very well treated twice already (see my previous posts).

Of course, itís a bit far from the Poblado because of heavy traffic during day time and a lot of street work, but, itís definitely worth the visit. : D

So I arrived there around 5pm and was received by a new guy (I think the regularís guyís name is Sebastian and Thursday might be his day off).

He reminded me the prices: 30K for 30í 40K for 60í and 45K for 2 girls (30í).

I was thinking of repeating my last experience with 2 nice chicks, but I was badly surprised by the girls exhibition as they only had 4 girls to show.

On both precedent opportunities they had more than 10 girls.

The very first girl who came to present herself Ė Cristina. Had everything I like. I thought for 30 seconds that I could live and go to some other places as there are so many in this neighbourhood, but Cristina smiled to me.

She is a morenita incredibly slim, with a nice face and a very charming smile.

Curiously for such a slim girl, she had a nice breast, that I supposed to be a natural one?

I asked to talk with her, and tried to convince her to go BBBJ, but there was no way. : (

So I asked for anal and she said yes and that it would have to be discussed in the room.

5 minutes later we were in the room, the same as the 2 precedent times.

I remembered that I didnít like the bedís mattress as it was so damaged that you could feel with your knees the slatted from the base. .

At my second visit I had the luck of a new mattress, but this time, I could clearly see that the mattress canít handle so much use. And that the slatted are back again to ruin my back and my knees.

Sorry for all these details but as we are not all young people, I thought it could interest any guy concerned with comfort.

Back to action now.

We decided to start with a shower, and walked to the bathroom.

The shower has warm water! And that allowed us to start with finger exploration with soap.

It was real nice and she immediately act with passion, I began to explore her nice ass with a finger and everything remains ok. Meanwhile, she was giving me a very good HJ, passed me soap everywhere and starts to moan.

After the (too short) shower, we went back to the room and I started to try to bargain her nice ass.

She asked me how much I would pay for it and I said 20KCop, she then asked for 50, I told her that I was not going to pay 40 for the service and 50 for her ass, no way! : mad:

We remained on that and I started to suck her nice pussy and ass.

She immediately responded in a very passionate way, moaning all the time, moving her pussy towards my tongue all the time begging for more.

After a few minutes like that, I turned my body to let her enter in a 69.

She gave me a good hand job, and after a short time, covered me and starts to Blow. .

Her blowing technique is average, but her hand technique is FIRST CLASS!

I had to stop her, but I was really very close from coming.

So I return to suck her clit and ass, fingering her ass while I was sucking her pussy. : p She was asking me to make her come and to do it stronger; I think it was not real, Iím not that good to light such a girl in a few minutes, but she really was very passionate and very humid.

After that I was in a very bad shape, still close to come and she was asking me to fuck.

So I did it looking how to calm me down, but it was above my strength and I came only a few minutes later. While I came she kept moving and I had to beg her to stop because I just couldnít handle this treatment any more.

She remained in my arms a few minutes to let me recover and kept moving a little bit just to make fun of my moaning. .

After that we talked a little bit and we then decided to shower again as the hour was almost gone.

Amazingly, I had another erection! I think Iím back to my 20ís again!

After the nice but peaceful shower, we made 2 pictures (very bad quality from my cell), we got dressed, I tipped her with 20K and left. Boys, this Cristina rocks!

As it was not that late, I decided to have a look to the 53rd street and to the Grill occidental (Carrera 52 53-158).

I walked till these places and could see all the street action.

There are a lot of girl, some doable but a few look like drug addicts, and I didnít felt comfortable.

When I arrived to the Grill occidental, the guy outside immediately push me in the grill.

I remained there for a very short time, less than 30 seconds.

I saw a naked girl, and maybe some 15 others seated there.

There was a place for a strip show but no show was going on at that moment.

I left that place very fast because I couldnít stand the very loud music.

I then happily returned to my hotel. : D

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Ford
04-20-07, 04:57
If you have limited experience in Colombia, you might want to consider CTG first. MDE is wonderful, but you need to know the area some. If you must come here, be careful.

....I'd agree with that. CTG is considerably more "user-friendly". ;)

Midwest
04-21-07, 01:10
Thanx for your input. But now you've got me thinkin.

Looks like Cartagena is a little more pricy.

In Medellin, I plan to stay at the mansion, if they'll have me, and maybe "dine in" at first, then visit the wares of the mayorista area (ideally w/ a knowledgeable fellow monger).

I hope that's what you mean by "careful"


If you have limited experience in Colombia, you might want to consider CTG first. MDE is wonderful, but you need to know the area some. If you must come here, be careful.

Scooby1
04-21-07, 04:00
Lina is a house girl at the Mansion.

Basically, the entire city was closed on New Year's Day, so I was glad she was available.

Everything is artificial, from the boob job to the liposuction scar on her belly.

But Lina is a real nice girl with a great attitude. She's got a real sultry smile, doesn't she?

No hesitation in recommending her.

She will even pick you up at the airport.

DBIs this the same Lina who now works in the office?
http://www.internationalsexguide.in...39&postcount=22

Bingooo
04-21-07, 10:48
I have en reading here in 1 weak on defrend treads . Mostly on DR but it seams like that is no good any more. So now im looking for Colombia. Are there any one that have experience from both that can help me. Im most in to semi pros chica are the any one in Medellin? Is Medellin the best plays to go in Colombia?

Sorry for my bad English, I'm from Sweden.

Malodr
04-21-07, 11:18
If you have limited experience in Colombia, you might want to consider CTG first. MDE is wonderful, but you need to know the area some. If you must come here, be careful.I have to agree. It was a great place to get my feet wet.

Tom 33
04-21-07, 11:56
Thanx for your input. But now you've got me thinkin.

Looks like Cartagena is a little more pricy.

In Medellin, I plan to stay at the mansion, if they'll have me, and maybe "dine in" at first, then visit the wares of the mayorista area (ideally w/ a knowledgeable fellow monger).

I hope that's what you mean by "careful"
CTG is more expensive.

You will be fine at the mansion.

Jericho10
04-21-07, 16:39
Would someone help point me in the right direction on how to get a cell phone SIM card. I'm going back to MDE, and then to Santa Marta, in June, and have gotten an unlocked GSM cell phone.

Thanks

Superboy1
04-21-07, 21:22
Would someone help point me in the right direction on how to get a cell phone SIM card. I'm going back to MDE, and then to Santa Marta, in June, and have gotten an unlocked GSM cell phone.

Thanks

You are better just getting a cell phone in Colombia, it is less of a problem,you can pick a cheap one up for 80,000peso that come with sim card.then you will not have to worry about getting a photocopy of your passport and all that,when you get a sim card.
What i did was give money to my girlfriend to get it,but the phone will be under her name,as long as you report it missing if you loss it,it is not a problem.

Superboy

JudgeSchmails
04-21-07, 21:29
Wow Npaul, that is a story. Was it hard to get the marriage annulled here in the US? It seems like that might be a nice little loophole here.

I am in Medellin once a month. My problem is finding one girl I like. As soon as I get comfortable with one, another one shows up and I am enamored with her. So your story hits home for sure.

Fantasy
04-21-07, 23:23
Near the entrance to the San Diego mall are a few street vendors/hustlers selling knck off watches. just tell them you need a sim card. in thirty seconds you will have one. put it in your phone and dial his cell phone to test it. this worked for me and for my buddy just fine. and pretty cheap too.........................

Jericho10
04-22-07, 15:57
Thanks for the good info. How much did you pay for the SIM card? (just so I have an idea so I won't get taken). Keep on mongering.

Buena suerte


Near the entrance to the San Diego mall are a few street vendors/hustlers selling knck off watches. just tell them you need a sim card. in thirty seconds you will have one. put it in your phone and dial his cell phone to test it. this worked for me and for my buddy just fine. and pretty cheap too.

Escort King
04-23-07, 02:04
Is this the same Lina who now works in the office?
http://www.internationalsexguide.in...39&postcount=22

No there was another Lina floating around.... actually it is a popular name there BlackSultan fucked at least one and I think two girls with that name....

Headache
04-23-07, 05:40
You can get SIM Cards anywhere they sell mobile phones or phone supplies.
Different phone operators have different prices.

Comcel SIM Cards = 20,000 pesos,
Movistar SIM Cards = 10,000 pesos

You will have to buy minutes once you get the SIM card.


Thanks for the good info. How much did you pay for the SIM card? (just so I have an idea so I won't get taken). Keep on mongering.

Buena suerte

Escort King
04-25-07, 00:32
No there was another Lina floating around.... actually it is a popular name there BlackSultan fucked at least one and I think two girls with that name....

The Lina mentioned has pics here... not same girl

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=422539&postcount=22

Winner71
04-25-07, 02:55
I met this gal 4 years ago in Cali. She was the secretarial type person for an Introduction service in Cali. I though met her on cybercupido. Had a nice weekend with her 4 years ago in Cali. She is a Calena. While she's sweet and... 4 years ago she was much more beautiful... I hooked up with herr again about 2 years ago. Not so hot looking as she's gotten fat. She used to weigh about 90 lbs. But that's what getting pregnant does to a gal. She was married to a gringo about 2 1/2 years ago, moved to NY, and got pregnant. She told me her husband didnt want the baby and made her abort and regularly beat the tar out of her. Very sad. She went back to Colombia and about 18 months ago I got an email from her annnouncing herr second marriage. I guess if she's working in Medellin, that one didnt work out either. That's too bad.

Lina Marcela Gallego Delgado was her name before the marriages.
ahhh... and the tits are definitely siliconos because she didnt have them 4 years ago nor 2 yrs ago.

By the way, it appears there are many "Linas" in the Mansion blackbook. The Lina I am referring to is the Lina that is in these photos. I do have to admit, she has a nice face as she always has... I'm killing myself for deleting the photos I had of her from 4 years ago when she was petite and without siliconos, she used to have a killer body and she loved to take photos.






The Lina mentioned has pics here... not same girl

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=422539&postcount=22

Ken_Apples
04-25-07, 09:58
Hi!

When it comes to NON-Pro girls, my experience is that the girls from North-east Brazil (Bahia/Salvador up to Fortaleza) is more "caring", (more passionated, closer to their feelings, more upbeat and so on) compared to their sisters in the southern parts of Brazil.

I'm confident that you can fint a real sweet girl in the south as well, as this in the end comes down to cemistry and personality.

When comparing Colombia and Brazil, what country do you think has the best "girlfriend" material?

Are colobian paisas just as caring as their brazilian sisters??
Please share some info on your experiences, and help me out on this issue.

Best regards / Ken Apples

Master Yoda
04-25-07, 13:59
Either place you can find good women.

This is too hard a question. Why didnt you just ask american vs brazil. The answer would have been much easier LOL.

No seriously though its hard.

I think your observation is near spot on. chicks in the northern part of brazil are poorer in comparison to places like floripa in the south (rio excluded). so they may be friendlier.

A woman in Barranquilla is more likely to be down to earth, less materialistic and sweeter than say Medellin generally. Medellin is much richer then BAQ. Its a middle class town. Although Medellin honeyz would be more beautiful than BAQ I think. More lighter skinned women in Medellin and most gringos like light skin.

As for Cali, Well Cali is cali. LOL

Brazil VS Colombia = tie!




Hi!

When it comes to NON-Pro girls, my experience is that the girls from North-east Brazil (Bahia/Salvador up to Fortaleza) is more "caring", (more passionated, closer to their feelings, more upbeat and so on) compared to their sisters in the southern parts of Brazil.

I'm confident that you can fint a real sweet girl in the south as well, as this in the end comes down to cemistry and personality.

When comparing Colombia and Brazil, what country do you think has the best "girlfriend" material?

Are colobian paisas just as caring as their brazilian sisters??
Please share some info on your experiences, and help me out on this issue.

Best regards / Ken Apples

Emaginal
04-25-07, 17:26
Hey all,

I was introduced to this forum recently by a good friend of mine and honestly I find it amazing. I'm a long time supporter of sharing information and the term "what goes around comes around". So, I want to thank everyone who has been a part of this community and kept the spirit alive.

:Introduction:
Me and three of my friends will be going to trip to Colombia, Medellin on between June16-June24 based on the reports we checked. We are young and fun professionals from new york (originally from europe) who are in late twenties. One of our friend does know some spanish, but the remaining three don't.

:Plan:
We are considering either renting an apt. in Medellin or stay at a hotel. Also we are thinking of renting a car/van either for the whole duration of our stay or for a few days if the situation calls for a trip to the cities/beaches around.

:Suggestions:
What would you experienced fellows suggest us to do? Renting an apt/hotel? Any specific location? Renting a cell phone? Would there be anyone who would be willing to show us around/introduce us to some local talents/hang out with us for a few days?

Any input will be appreciated. If there is anything you would like us to bring from the US, we'll try to take care of it based on our space availability.

Thanks

Ken_Apples
04-25-07, 20:45
Best Yoda, Thanks for the input! :)

This at least get me started. I see that we "see" the same pattern about middle class/ poorer areas in Brazil, as well as Colombia. (this pattern actuallt goes around the world - Asia, Former Soviet states , africa and so on... - AND the States!!)

For me, as a Gringo who prefer DARK (yes I DO indeed! :) girls, It sounds like I'm heading to countryside then, - right ??

And about Cali - please explain - I have not been there but would really like to know what makes Cali a "kind of its own".

*might be my prime choice for the next travel...*

May the force be with you buddy (whit or whitout vitamin C ;) )

Best regards / Ken.

Winner71
04-25-07, 21:39
Emaginal,

If you can find an apartment, that is probably what I would do being there are 4 of you. You could probably get a pretty cool house or apartment for less than the price of 4 average priced hotel rooms. On the other hand, ,since it's your first time to Colombia you may need some hand holding to show you the ropes, where to go, where not to go, ect. I've never stayed at the VIP or Mansion but obviously a trip will be made better when you are around people who know where, how and when you can find what you are looking for or give you ideas on how to enjoy your stay in Colombia. Like I said, I've never stayed at either, but I did correspond with Albert a while back by email and phone. A wealth of knowledge. If party party party is what you want, it looks as though the Mansion would be your better choice. Again, Ive never been to either. Perhaps email both and let them earn your business.

Forget renting a car. You will use taxi's and the rail to get around Medellin.
Travels utside of Medellin you will take the bus. Unless you rally are serious about this beach idea.. .in which case you would be best off traveling by plane.

I'd recommend exploring the beauty of Colombia... maybe after you have hooked up with some chicas take them to the lake.. not too far. Also you could take them to the termales outside of Manizales...about 5 hours away. You can also go skydiving in Medellin. Just some ideas that are seldomly brought up here.

As for a cell phone... that's a good question for VIP and the Mansion, certaily they could accomodate you with this or show you how to unlock your phone and get a SIM card... and I do recommend a cell phone to keep track of al lthe chicas you meet.

For Mongering.. read the posts by all on this board. Lots of info.



Hey all,

I was introduced to this forum recently by a good friend of mine and honestly I find it amazing. I'm a long time supporter of sharing information and the term "what goes around comes around". So, I want to thank everyone who has been a part of this community and kept the spirit alive.

:Introduction:
Me and three of my friends will be going to trip to Colombia, Medellin on between June16-June24 based on the reports we checked. We are young and fun professionals from new york (originally from europe) who are in late twenties. One of our friend does know some spanish, but the remaining three don't.

:Plan:
We are considering either renting an apt. in Medellin or stay at a hotel. Also we are thinking of renting a car/van either for the whole duration of our stay or for a few days if the situation calls for a trip to the cities/beaches around.

:Suggestions:
What would you experienced fellows suggest us to do? Renting an apt/hotel? Any specific location? Renting a cell phone? Would there be anyone who would be willing to show us around/introduce us to some local talents/hang out with us for a few days?

Any input will be appreciated. If there is anything you would like us to bring from the US, we'll try to take care of it based on our space availability.

Thanks

Tom 33
04-25-07, 23:16
If you like dark, stick to the coast - Cartagena and Barranquilla.

There is not much for apartments in MDE for short-term. And what is available is expensive and not up to our standards. I would strongly suggest VIP or the mansion. MDE is not the safest city.

Just buy a cell phone. They cost around US$40 or less. Give it to a chica as a going away gift.

Winner's advice is solid.

Cubanut
04-26-07, 01:56
Hey all,

Me and three of my friends will be going to trip to Colombia, Medellin on between June16-June24 based on the reports we checked. We are young and fun professionals from new york (originally from europe) who are in late twenties. One of our friend does know some spanish, but the remaining three don't.

:Plan:
We are considering either renting an apt. in Medellin or stay at a hotel. Also we are thinking of renting a car/van either for the whole duration of our stay or for a few days if the situation calls for a trip to the cities/beaches around.

Thanks


Emaginal,


Like others will say, renting a apartment for 8 days for 4 newbies in NOT recommended and may not even be possible since most places only offer 2 and maybe 3 bedroom apartments in Medellin.

The Mansion/Castillo and or Club VIP can cater to your most every need and or requests. For a more tranquil place try the Castillo or Club VIP but for frat house girlie girl fun, try the Mansion. Your experiences can be legendary if done right.

Last January I met 4 firemen from New York (911 gents). Great bunch of guys that stayed at the Mansion. They had come from doing the FKK's in Germany and stayed a few days in Medellin where they stayed at the Mansion and had a blast and then were off to Rio for some Garota fun.

As the header above states, I an apartment is not a good option for 4 newbies. After you get your feet wet then of course this all changes. However, the repeat business the Mansion/Castillo and Club VIP speaks for itself for why they have happy customers week after week.


Cheers,


Cubanut

Enigma84
04-26-07, 02:53
If you like dark, stick to the coast - Cartagena and Barranquilla.Cali too has lots of dark skin.

I get so confused when people say the majority of women in BAQ and Cartagena are dark. I have the same skin complexion as Akon or Wesley Snipes, maybe darker. So anyone very tanned or lightly tanned is lighter to me. white people are just very light.

So when people say the majority of people in BAQ and CTG are dark I assume the mean more tanned or tanner than say medellin but not completely black. more like beyonce's colour or morena or olive skinned like salma hayek or triguena.

But of course anything darker than a man with blue eyes and blond hair is dark I suppose. it just confuses me at times.

Kdog
04-26-07, 03:30
I've had too many bad experiences. This trip was so bad I only stayed 2 nights. The second night I went to Face Dos and the waiter brought the wrong drinks to me. It didn't matter, I still had to pay. Then the girl I took to my room had her period. No refund. Then the taxi took me to San Diego and gave me 6 mil change from 20 mil. I didn't notice before he left. San Diego sucked and the street girls outside were ugly, so I returned to Face Dos (I know..stupid). I saw the taxi driver that ripped me off outside Face Dos and I started arguing with him. In about 5 seconds 4 taxi drivers were in my face telling to me shut-up. Then Face Dos security came, thank god right? Wrong, they were 100% supporting the taxi drivers. Then the manager from inside came, thank god right? Wrong again. After being threatened I asked for the Policia. Nobody would call. I had to walk back to Castillo (a few miles) for fear of a taxi driver doing something to me.

The next morning, I changed my flight and left that afternoon. I even stopped at Loutrons on my way to the airport and ended up with a non-GFE condom loving fish.

Castillo was the only nice part of the trip. However, one drawback at Castillo when comparing it to an international hotel like Sherton is they won't let you check-out early and get a refund. I understand why they have to do this, but nevertheless, it's something to consider before booking. For example, don't book a week there if your plans are not certain.

Scooby1
04-26-07, 03:58
ALTERNATIVE & some real cheap PLACES TO STAY:

Hostals

http://www.laguiahotelera.com/web/companycategory.aspx?ipa=1&npa=COLOMBIA&ies=*&nes=%20TODOS&idi=2&type=category&txb=Hotel&tbu=&ipg=1&nci=Medellin&k=10887&nca=&ica=2859
http://www.vacationvillas.net/holid...mbia/p43194.htm

HOSTELS

BLACK SHEEP HOSTEL:
The Black Sheep Hostel is located in the best area of Medellin. Only five minutes walk from the Metro Station Poblado and aminutes walk from a major bus route
Transversal 5A #45-133, Patio Bonito, Medellin
http://www.blacksheepmedellin.com

CASA KIWI HOSTEL:
Casa Kiwi is THE place to be in Medellin. It's three blocks from all of the action of the Zona Rosa,
Carrera 36 # 7 - 10, Medellin, Antoquia
http://www.casakiwi.net

PROVENZA HOSTEL:
The Hostel Provenza is located just two blocks away from the busy Zona Rosa, where you can find all kinds of food, drinks and entertainment.
Carrera 35 # 7 - 2, Medellin, Antioquia
http://www.provenzahostal.com/English.html

PALM TREE HOSTEL:
Cra 67 #48D-63, Tel: 4 260 2805
http://www.palmtreemedellin.com/

HOSTAL MEDELLIN:
Carrera 65 # 48-50
TEL: 2300505
The Hostal Medellin is one block from the Metro station Suramericana. It is a very nice Hostel with free coffee and tea. Also we offers TV with DVD, Internet, hot showers, washing machine, cook opportunity, garden with grill place, hammocks, tourist information, garage, kiosk and much more.....
http://www.instantworldbooking.com/services/reservation/view_destination.php?dest=Hostal%20Medellin&searchregion=Medellin&subcontinent=Colombia&PHPSESSID=fd3dedcc81141c893515b342968cbc5b


HOTEL CONQUISTADORES:
Carrera 54 # 49-31
Tel. 512 3232
http://webteam.com.co/hconquist/
http://www.instantworldbooking.com/services/reservation/view_destination.php?dest=Hotel%20Conquistadores&searchregion=Medellin&subcontinent=Colombia&PHPSESSID=fd3dedcc81141c893515b342968cbc5b


APARTMENTS

APARTA-RENT:
http://aparta-rent.com/main/component/option,com_estateagent/act,cat/task,showCE/id,2/sc,y/

CONFIRRIENDOS:
http://www.confiarriendos.com/buscar.php?tipo=1&cla=3

APARTAMENTOS AMOBLADOS:
http://www.apartamentos-amoblados.com/

ARRENDAMIENTOS NUTIBRA:
http://www.arrendamientosnutibara.com.co/pag_ppal.htm
This is the best site for Apartments or Houses for rent in Medellin that I have found

ORANGE SUITES:
Calle 8 Nļ 43C-37 El Poblado
574] 268 9516 - PBX: [574] 268 7050 - Fax: [574] 268 1141
http://www.travelers.com.co/med/oran/oran_eng.html

THE APARTMENT:
Cra 42#7ASur-92
Tel: 4 321 2832
Single room rental in a luxury 3-bedroom apartment in El Poblado, close to the Zona Rosa and public transport. It is also easy walking distance to a large supermarket and one of the best shopping centers in Medellin. It is fully furnished, has free internet, cable TV and one of the best views in Medellin. The apartment complex also contains a pool, squash court, gym and 24 hour security
http://www.theapartmentmedellin.com/

MEDELLIN APARTMENT INFORMER:
http://www.medellin.im/

COLOMBIA HOME APARTMENTS:

Calle 57 41-24

They offer fully furnished Medellin Apartments with fast Internet and more
Call Ana +57 3108829556 or with Skype r01636913433 or Miami +1 3054073879
http://www.colombia-home.com/

MEDELLIN APARTMENTS:
http://www.apts.8k.com/

B.R. EJECUTIVOS LTDA:
http://www.brejecutivos.com.co/sitio_ing/home.htm

Robert Palli
04-26-07, 19:29
http://www.colombia-home.com/index.html

Anyone try this at 100 per week or like 14.00 per day that is pretty good. It is in centro so i assume not the best area but the building looks secure. Anyone try it yet.

Escort King
04-27-07, 00:32
I've had too many bad experiences. This trip was so bad I only stayed 2 nights. The second night I went to Face Dos and the waiter brought the wrong drinks to me. It didn't matter, I still had to pay. Then the girl I took to my room had her period. No refund. Then the taxi took me to San Diego and gave me 6 mil change from 20 mil. I didn't notice before he left. San Diego sucked and the street girls outside were ugly, so I returned to Face Dos (I know..stupid). I saw the taxi driver that ripped me off outside Face Dos and I started arguing with him. In about 5 seconds 4 taxi drivers were in my face telling to me shut-up. Then Face Dos security came, thank god right? Wrong, they were 100% supporting the taxi drivers. Then the manager from inside came, thank god right? Wrong again. After being threatened I asked for the Policia. Nobody would call. I had to walk back to Castillo (a few miles) for fear of a taxi driver doing something to me.

The next morning, I changed my flight and left that afternoon. I even stopped at Loutrons on my way to the airport and ended up with a non-GFE condom loving fish.

Castillo was the only nice part of the trip. However, one drawback at Castillo when comparing it to an international hotel like Sherton is they won't let you check-out early and get a refund. I understand why they have to do this, but nevertheless, it's something to consider before booking. For example, don't book a week there if your plans are not certain.

sorry to hear this.... funny some are thinking good one less person popularising MDE.... others are wondering why sweat the few bucks the taxi got.... but have seen it firsthand and know sometimes the principal outrules the small amount of cash it is....
I would have just given the drinks to a couple of girls and moved on... may have gotten you some play

Tom 33
04-27-07, 00:47
I've had too many bad experiences. This trip was so bad I only stayed 2 nights. The second night I went to Face Dos and the waiter brought the wrong drinks to me. It didn't matter, I still had to pay. Then the girl I took to my room had her period. No refund. Then the taxi took me to San Diego and gave me 6 mil change from 20 mil. I didn't notice before he left. San Diego sucked and the street girls outside were ugly, so I returned to Face Dos (I know..stupid). I saw the taxi driver that ripped me off outside Face Dos and I started arguing with him. In about 5 seconds 4 taxi drivers were in my face telling to me shut-up. Then Face Dos security came, thank god right? Wrong, they were 100% supporting the taxi drivers. Then the manager from inside came, thank god right? Wrong again. After being threatened I asked for the Policia. Nobody would call. I had to walk back to Castillo (a few miles) for fear of a taxi driver doing something to me.

The next morning, I changed my flight and left that afternoon. I even stopped at Loutrons on my way to the airport and ended up with a non-GFE condom loving fish.

Castillo was the only nice part of the trip. However, one drawback at Castillo when comparing it to an international hotel like Sherton is they won't let you check-out early and get a refund. I understand why they have to do this, but nevertheless, it's something to consider before booking. For example, don't book a week there if your plans are not certain.
Colombia in general can be one helluva mind fuck. They just don't do things the way we do them. You are gonna be fucked by taxistas. I don't like it, either. In fact I let them [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off way too much. I am trying to learn to accept it.

You are a Gringo. Note: Gringos are any non-South or Central American who is not Asian. Gringos are always wrong.

The bureaucracy is even worse. If you try to buy property or get a VISA, you will be mind fucked many times over.

However. no place is perfect. I weigh the bad against the good. In MDE, for me, the good weighs a lot more. If I can ever grow up and stop sweating the small stuff, MDE will become very close to perfect - for me.

No place is good for everyone.

BeersTerry
04-27-07, 01:07
...and don't be paying the taxistas with large denominations.

I know someone who got fucked when the taxista game him all counterfeit bills as change.

Boner Joe
04-27-07, 01:44
ok, this was my first trip to medellin. i have been to cartagena several times, bogota once for a short trip, and many times to places like rio and ba.

i made reservations at the mansion. i was originally going to stay for 1 week but changed my plans to stay for 2 weeks. unfortunately the mansion was full on the second week so i had to change locations. the mansion is great if you like to party hard. lots of girls and lots of parties. robert is a great guy who helped out a lot. i have traveled enough that i do not really need the extra help that is available there but it was still good. i prefer though to find my own girls instead of fucking the same girls that every one else is fucking.

on the second week i had to move out of the mansion so i went to the hotel dann for one night. do not use this place. they were strict about the girls and just too uptight. the next night i went to vip. i have some really mixed feelings about vip. the house is nice, nicer than the mansion, but the service is not as good. however, but bothers me is the fact that the owners are bullshitting everyone about some things. maybe i am just being paranoid but i found out some strange things. first, this guy albert is not the owner of vip like he claims as they just use him as a front. the owner is the guy who uses the name kevin but that is not even his real name. kevin is an arab and his real name is something like mohammed ala keveen bin bubba or some other shit like that. second, albert is not even a gringo like he pretends to be. turns out he is a full blooded colombian who speaks some english. i found this strange that a business which caters to gringos is owned by an arab but has a front guy who pretends to be a gringo but who really is a colombian. maybe this does not really matter too much, but i just feel uncomfortable when i am staying somewhere and being lied to right from the start.

there are many places to find girls in medellin. there is really no need to use the services of anyone to find them. you can go around san diego at night or mayorista in the evening to find many streetwalkers for as little as 30,000 pesos (about $13.00 usd). there are also several dozen bars opened all day in the downtown area with cheap girls. in all three places i would suggest being careful since it is not disneyland. also many of the girls are **** or on glue, so all these things should be considered/avoided.

i also went to just about every house that was available from the bottom feeder places (40-50,000 pesos) to loutrons (170,000 pesos). i found some sweet girls in loutrons but they all used condoms for blowjobs which sucks, or i should say does not suck, depending on how you want to look at it. i told the girl to take off the rubber and suck like a hoover but she refused. i guess there is some policy there that they all have to use condoms when fucking.

face ii is too damn expensive. the girls want 150,000 for an hour plus another 150,000 to take them out. so that is like $140 usd! shit, with prices like that i can get laid in the u.s. there was one hot chica there who i wanted to fuck so i decided to bang her on in the back rooms since i am too cheap to pay the exit fees. the rooms are really basic and cheap. i really do not know why they donít fix the dump up. the girls was only ok as well, not worth the money overall.

one other night i went to show san diego which is a little shit hole around where all the street girls are. i think when the girls on the street turn 18 they move inside san diego, and then get tossed back out on the street when they start sniffing glue. as much of a shit hole that it is the girls are more friendly there than face ii and more affordable. for instance, i got the number of a young one who i called the next day, she came over for about 1.5 hours and wanted 100,000. the same quality of girl in face ii wanted 300,000 even though it was in her off hours. go figure.

i also did one in the back rooms in san diego. i normally prefer to take them back with me but i thought i would give it a try after a few drinks. there is a little flaca there who really knows how to wiggle her ass when dancing. she told me 100,000 to bang her there or 250,000 to take her out. being the cheap fuck i am i decided to bang her there. i asked her if it included anal and got a firm no. but the way she giggled her ass i just had to do it anal so i offered her 20,000 more and she said ok. interestingly enough, she had me pay the bar 100,000 and her directly the other 20,000. i guess the bar takes a cut of the total amount the girls can ask for. i thought the price was set by the bar but different girls were asking different prices. i got quotes anywhere from 100,000 to 140,000. i think i could have talked a few of them down to 80,000 but why bother at that price. the flaca was great. she loved the anal as well so i guess she was just milking more money out of me for asking. i bet if i just had said nothing beforehand i could have done her little ass at no additional charge. i most have fucked her ass for 35-40 minutes without stopping and she just kept moaning ďooooooo papi!Ē got to love that.

so here is bottom line:

the mansion: give it a try if you like to party.

hotel dann: avoid.

club vip: mixed on this. i probably will not go back. you will be at the mercy of a arab and a colombian.

street/majorista/downtown: hit and miss. give it a try only if you have balls. not for newbies.

face ii: over priced, under service. try it once.

show san diego: i had fun there although it is a shit hole. girls were friendly.

houses: also hit and miss. take a tour of them all and decide. good way to kill an afternoon.

loutrons: some hot babes there. covered bjs. try it once.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Carrib
04-27-07, 01:46
I've had too many bad experiences. This trip was so bad I only stayed 2 nights. The second night I went to Face Dos and the waiter brought the wrong drinks to me. It didn't matter, I still had to pay. Then the girl I took to my room had her period. No refund. Then the taxi took me to San Diego and gave me 6 mil change from 20 mil. I didn't notice before he left. San Diego sucked and the street girls outside were ugly, so I returned to Face Dos (I know..stupid). I saw the taxi driver that ripped me off outside Face Dos and I started arguing with him. In about 5 seconds 4 taxi drivers were in my face telling to me shut-up. Then Face Dos security came, thank god right? Wrong, they were 100% supporting the taxi drivers. Then the manager from inside came, thank god right? Wrong again. After being threatened I asked for the Policia. Nobody would call. I had to walk back to Castillo (a few miles) for fear of a taxi driver doing something to me.



Am I missing something here? You were arguing over an overcharge of 2 or 3k pesos, give or take a few hundred...that's $1.50 cents!!!! Then decided to walk from Fase Dos to Castillo in the middle of the night??!!!! In Medellin?

Ricker
04-27-07, 03:03
Am I missing something here? You were arguing over an overcharge of 2 or 3k pesos, give or take a few hundred...that's $1.50 cents!!!! Then decided to walk from Fase Dos to Castillo in the middle of the night??!!!! In Medellin?The taxi charge from Face Dos to San Diego would be very minimal. He prob got cheated out of about 10k peso or so.

Nothing to get killed over, but pretty shitty of a taxista to do this and I'd prob let him know it too.

Walk back to the Castillo. No way. Too lazy for that. Plenty of other taxistas around.

Sailor2006
04-27-07, 04:11
You would get attacked by the lady boys, ewww. Can we say Hotdog!

Polvo
04-27-07, 07:36
.....The owner is the guy who uses the name Kevin but that is not even his real name. Kevin is an Arab and his real name is something like Mohammed Ala Keveen Bin Bubba or some other name like that. ......I found this strange that a business which caters to gringos is owned by an Arab but has a front guy who pretends to be a gringo but who really is a Colombian. Maybe this does not really matter too much....Boner Joe:
Are you sure he is not a Persian, rather than an Arab? If so, that's almost as bad as calling a Confederate a Yankee!! Most Persians - apart from the current breed of clerics, Mr. "I'm A Dinner Jacket", and some radical students - are pretty good people. Just a messed up country since the Shah.

You are correct, it doesn't matter at all - look how the gringos have businesses around the globe catering to even the headhunters of Papua New Guinea. But with the unreasoning paranoia about people from the Middle East (even if he isn't a Persian), I'm sure you can understand why he seems to keep a low profile.

Suerte!

Polvo

Regulr Travlr
04-27-07, 14:16
[QUOTE=Boner Joe]The next night I went to VIP. I have some really mixed feelings about VIP. The house is nice, nicer than the mansion, but the service is not as good. However, but bothers me is the fact that the owners are bullshitting everyone about some things. Maybe I am just being paranoid but I found out some strange things. First, this guy Albert is not the owner of VIP like he claims as they just use him as a front. The owner is the guy who uses the name Kevin but that is not even his real name. Kevin is an Arab and his real name is something like Mohammed Ala Keveen Bin Bubba or some other shit like that. Second, Albert is not even a gringo like he pretends to be. Turns out he is a full blooded Colombian who speaks some English. I found this strange that a business which caters to gringos is owned by an Arab but has a front guy who pretends to be a gringo but who really is a Colombian. Maybe this does not really matter too much, but I just feel uncomfortable when I am staying somewhere and being lied to right from the start..............

I found some sweet girls in Loutrons but they all used condoms for blowjobs which sucks, or I should say does not suck, depending on how you want to look at it. I told the girl to take off the rubber and suck like a Hoover but she refused. I guess there is some policy there that they all have to use condoms when fucking.
QUOTE]

I am not sure why the ownership or heritage matters to you at the VIP. I do not think they are hiding anything. Albert is a Colombian who lived in the U.S for many years. He chose to return to Colombia to open some businesses. Kevin is indeed Persian(Iranian). He and his father are major investors in the business. They have businesses in the U.S. and also in a couple of other countries. I am not sure of the exact financial interest, but I am not sure of that in many businesses I frequent. It does not matter. I have found that Albert and Kevin are always around and are the ones running things. I have stayed at countless Marriotts and found out that they were operated by franchisees. I was not disappointed that Bill Marriott was not there.

I have been to Loutron only twice. Once on my first visit and once with Spider on his first visit. Kind of like a landmark you have to hit. Probably won't go back. Both times I received BBBJ. They started to iniate a CBJ, but I politely asked "sin condom". One asked for a propina. I guess the key is not to ask them to "take off the rubber and suck like a Hoover." I am not sure how that translates in Spanish.

Regulr Travlr
04-27-07, 14:21
...and don't be paying the taxistas with large denominations.

I know someone who got fucked when the taxista game him all counterfeit bills as change.

This is right on. Keep a number of 5,000&2,000&1,000 notes in a seperate pocket. Taxis always claim to never have change. This is not different than in Panama where you need to keep your 5's and 1's seperate. You will have much less of a chance of getting screwed over. Also it a good idea to not flash your large bills when you do not have to. Pull those out discreetly when you can. Don't tempt anyone.

Cachorro
04-27-07, 16:20
:Plan:
We are considering either renting an apt. in Medellin or stay at a hotel. Also we are thinking of renting a car/van either for the whole duration of our stay or for a few days if the situation calls for a trip to the cities/beaches around.

:Suggestions:
What would you experienced fellows suggest us to do? Renting an apt/hotel? Any specific location? Renting a cell phone? Would there be anyone who would be willing to show us around/introduce us to some local talents/hang out with us for a few days?

Here's another option for you. Rent 2 apartments from this site, and 2 guys stay in each one.
http://www.theapartmentmedellin.com

Without knowing what you want to do, and how independent you want to be, it's hard to call which is your best place to stay. Some guys come down looking for regular girlfriends, some guys look for a wife. Some guys want a hooker for lunch, another for happy hour, then another for all night, and repeat day after day. What's your plan?

No need to bother with renting a car or trying to drive and navigate Medellin and Colombia. If you want to take a trip, just book a taxi or minivan with driver to take you around. For day to day stuff in the city, just take taxis. You should take the metro once or twice too, because it's pleasant (outside of rush hour) and one of the best ways to see the sights of Medellin.

Sparkchaser69
04-27-07, 19:37
I have been to Loutron only twice. Once on my first visit and once with Spider on his first visit. Kind of like a landmark you have to hit. Probably won't go back. Both times I received BBBJ. They started to iniate a CBJ, but I politely asked "sin condom". One asked for a propina. I guess the key is not to ask them to "take off the rubber and suck like a Hoover." I am not sure how that translates in Spanish.

Now that my friend is some funny shit!!!!!

BeersTerry
04-27-07, 21:43
I've done 4 trips to Medellin now and have more or less had the same experiences/opinions as Boner Joe.

Escort King
04-27-07, 22:05
I've done 4 trips to Medellin now and have more or less had the same experiences/opinions as Boner Joe.

you had a relatively shitty time every where except the Mansion???

Jose Lima
04-27-07, 22:50
I've had too many bad experiences. This trip was so bad I only stayed 2 nights. The second night I went to Face Dos and the waiter brought the wrong drinks to me. It didn't matter, I still had to pay. Then the girl I took to my room had her period. No refund. Then the taxi took me to San Diego and gave me 6 mil change from 20 mil. I didn't notice before he left. San Diego sucked and the street girls outside were ugly, so I returned to Face Dos (I know..stupid). I saw the taxi driver that ripped me off outside Face Dos and I started arguing with him. In about 5 seconds 4 taxi drivers were in my face telling to me shut-up. Then Face Dos security came, thank god right? Wrong, they were 100% supporting the taxi drivers. Then the manager from inside came, thank god right? Wrong again. After being threatened I asked for the Policia. Nobody would call. I had to walk back to Castillo (a few miles) for fear of a taxi driver doing something to me.

The next morning, I changed my flight and left that afternoon. I even stopped at Loutrons on my way to the airport and ended up with a non-GFE condom loving fish.

Castillo was the only nice part of the trip. However, one drawback at Castillo when comparing it to an international hotel like Sherton is they won't let you check-out early and get a refund. I understand why they have to do this, but nevertheless, it's something to consider before booking. For example, don't book a week there if your plans are not certain.

This happened to me in MDE. I got there on my first trip at around 11:00pm. Went to the hotel then got a cabbie to take me to get a women. I got a SW and a bottle of Whisky. I took her back to my hotel room and dozed off for a second((very tired from taking a flight from Sao paulo to miami, lay over there, drinks with my buddies in MIA, late flight to bogata and then to MDE.) She robbed me of $200 and some clothes that I brought from South beach. I had gotton robbed in Sao Paulo of $500 from a SW when she stuck her head in the car and was blowing me she went threw my pockets and took the loot.
A cabbie took me half way around the world and tried to charge me like 4 times what the far was in MDE. I threw the real far in his fat face and got out of the cab. He told me he would kill me and screamed and I told him in Portuguse to do what he had to do.

Not trying to relate with your story Bro. Just trying to to you that sometimes you have a F'd up night and sometime you hit the Mutha 'Fing jackpot.

After all that I still love MDE and SP. Hey man I got robbed in my native Philly about 3 times in my life. It happens.

Boner Joe
04-27-07, 23:15
Guys,

You are kind of missing my point about Club VIP. The fact that Kevin is an Arab is not what pissed me off. I am sure there are at least a few Arabs who do not want to kill all Americans. What did [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off is the fact that he and Albert are misleading people into thinking this is a gringo business. Think about it, the web site is only in English, they both use gringo names and they provide service only to gringo clients. We as the customer go there expecting to find a couple of gringos running the place. However, it turns out that Albertís real name is Alberto since he is Colombian and Kevinís real name is something I could not even spell as he is from Iran. Am I the only one who finds it uncomfortable to travel thousands of miles only to find out that the hosts are lying to me? Further, Alberto tells people on this forum that he is the owner of business. This also is not true. Kevin (or perhaps his father) is the owner but for some reason they want people to think Alberto is the owner. As I understand it, Alberto lived in the USA For a few years but could not find a job so he returned to Colombia. So the point here is we are being bullshitted to on at least two things. I wonder what else they are bullshitting about? This makes me uncomfortable when I am in a foreign country, especially one as infamous as Colombia, only to discover that the people providing the roof over my head are a couple of bullshit artists.

Scooby1
04-28-07, 00:48
Come on guys you really have to use common sense when dealing with taxis & SG's.

First I wore cargo pants when possible that had lots of pockets that I could button up where I kept my wallet, small amount of pesos, cell phone, note pad & electronic translator (I can not speak spanish) so that no one could just reach into and grab stuff.

Second carry around a cell phone and the business card with the number of Bello taxi so if you get stuck or to drunk you can always call for a realible and safe taxi.

When dealing with SG's and taking them back to your place, I always took my wallet, money and anything else of value and locked it up in the room safe. Let the girls see you do it (with out letting them see the combination or into the safe) then they know they have to perform to get any money and cannot rob you.

Here is what is in the Medellin Guide on that subject:

PERSONAL SAFETY WHEN USING TAXIS

No matter the CITY or COUNTRY your in.....remain alert & use common sense.

1. Its best if you or a friend phones the taxi company direct. Or, have the hotel where you are staying, phone. The taxi company will tell you the number of the taxi that they will dispatch to pick you up. When the taxi arrives, compare the numbers for a match. If the numbers are not the same, wave the driver on. DO NOT GET IN THE CAB. Call for another.

2. Be more alert when you hail a cab from the street, especially if you are near a bank, disco, bar, nightclub, expensive store, high end shopping center, etc. or when it's past 10 p.m.

BELLO TAXI MEDELLIN:

It's better not to hail taxis in the street. Especially in Medellin, many taxi drivers were criminals or assassins before, who invested their money in their own car. Many of them may have connections to local kidnapping gangs. So call a taxi company and they'll send one along. Bello is the one that was recommended to me they are very reliable & safe & they will always give you a taxi number when you call. Write it down and match it up to the one that comes and gets you.
444 9999

Http://www.bellotax.com.co

Winner71
04-28-07, 02:08
Too funny.

Guys... Colombia is not the US. You have to learn to accpet things the way they are.
Service isn't going to change... just for you.
Everyone is out to make a buck... they aren't just trying to screw you.
and as Tom pointed out... you will always be wrong. A cabbie calls the police. You WILL be wrong. Learn to accept it. If you must fight with someone over something, at least make sure it's something that is life-altering or at least means something.

Come on now... you had to pay for the wrong drinks or you got short changed by a cabbie or were given false bills. This is Colombia. Had you just realized that this is the way life is in Colombia and accepted it you may have had a good time. Instead, you pouted and it ruined your vacation after spending how much on a plane ticket, etc. If you wanted a perfect world go to Club Med in Cancun or something similar.



I've had too many bad experiences. This trip was so bad I only stayed 2 nights. The second night I went to Face Dos and the waiter brought the wrong drinks to me. It didn't matter, I still had to pay. Then the girl I took to my room had her period. No refund. Then the taxi took me to San Diego and gave me 6 mil change from 20 mil. I didn't notice before he left. San Diego sucked and the street girls outside were ugly, so I returned to Face Dos (I know..stupid). I saw the taxi driver that ripped me off outside Face Dos and I started arguing with him. In about 5 seconds 4 taxi drivers were in my face telling to me shut-up. Then Face Dos security came, thank god right? Wrong, they were 100% supporting the taxi drivers. Then the manager from inside came, thank god right? Wrong again. After being threatened I asked for the Policia. Nobody would call. I had to walk back to Castillo (a few miles) for fear of a taxi driver doing something to me.

The next morning, I changed my flight and left that afternoon. I even stopped at Loutrons on my way to the airport and ended up with a non-GFE condom loving fish.

Castillo was the only nice part of the trip. However, one drawback at Castillo when comparing it to an international hotel like Sherton is they won't let you check-out early and get a refund. I understand why they have to do this, but nevertheless, it's something to consider before booking. For example, don't book a week there if your plans are not certain.

Boner Joe
04-28-07, 03:29
I met Tom. He is a very nice guy. Too bad he is not still there. He left because Alberto was not showing up for work or helping out. They separated on really bad terms.


I thought a guy named tom from Texas was the owner.

Latin Bound
04-28-07, 10:54
http://www.colombia-home.com/index.html

Anyone try this at 100 per week or like 14.00 per day that is pretty good. It is in centro so i assume not the best area but the building looks secure. Anyone try it yet.I had a local scout the area for me before commiting to the place. It is too close for comfort to a "barrio popular. " not exactly where you want to be. Besides, there is a thread here somewhere of someone that stayed there and did not like the experience.

Fla Fun
04-28-07, 16:51
Guys,

You are kind of missing my point about Club VIP. The fact that Kevin is an Arab is not what pissed me off. I am sure there are at least a few Arabs who do not want to kill all Americans. What did [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off is the fact that he and Albert are misleading people into thinking this is a gringo business. Think about it, the web site is only in English, they both use gringo names and they provide service only to gringo clients. We as the customer go there expecting to find a couple of gringos running the place. However, it turns out that Albertís real name is Alberto since he is Colombian and Kevinís real name is something I could not even spell as he is from Iran. Am I the only one who finds it uncomfortable to travel thousands of miles only to find out that the hosts are lying to me? Further, Alberto tells people on this forum that he is the owner of business. This also is not true. Kevin (or perhaps his father) is the owner but for some reason they want people to think Alberto is the owner. As I understand it, Alberto lived in the USA For a few years but could not find a job so he returned to Colombia. So the point here is we are being bullshitted to on at least two things. I wonder what else they are bullshitting about? This makes me uncomfortable when I am in a foreign country, especially one as infamous as Colombia, only to discover that the people providing the roof over my head are a couple of bullshit artists.Kevin is telling the truth and I would be happy to set the record straight.

I have know Kevin for about 10 years when he lived in Miami Florida. I would feel 100% safe and comfortable in staying at Club VIP. He is a very gracious host and a very good friend.

I have know his previous businesses in Miami which he ran all of business very well. I know he has became a U S Citizen and he lived and grew up in Maryland before living in Miami. Most of Kevin's family lives in the U S.

Remember just about every "gringos" is originally from somewhere else. Kevin grew up in the U S. So I would count him as a "Gringo".

Sailor2006
04-28-07, 19:46
Omg, there are bullshitters in Colombia? There are only bullshitters in Colombia, I am trying not to take offense of the fact that you find staying with a "colombian" to be risky. But listen I have to inform you that Colombia and ALL the people running bussiness especially gringo style hotels that service women are "shady". The mansion is no better, when it comes to asking for 100% of the bill upfront, being shady with refunds, taking % of taxies and % of what the women make, asking clients for investment money to start other bussiness, and god knows what other % or cuts are taken out. This is a fact of life here, there is no honest bussiness men in colombia.

Albert doesn't hide his background, in fact he is proud of being Colombian. Its his culture. You're a guest in his country, behave like one.

Curranti Currant
04-28-07, 20:32
Well said!

As far a taxi's go, I get one I like and hire him per day, he waits on me wherever I go. I dont trust calling taxis either, since alot of those taxi drivers are also criminals and connected to the kidnapping scene.

I had a buddy spend 3 months kidnapped. They had him live in an outhouse where they threated to kill him every day if they didn't get money for his life. He is a biker and of course has no money. Finally they got tired of him and let him go. They made him walk to the next village where he was afraid he it was going to happen all over again. This whole thing started when he got into a taxi drunk one night in MDE.


Too funny.

Guys... Colombia is not the US. You have to learn to accpet things the way they are.
Service isn't going to change... just for you.
Everyone is out to make a buck... they aren't just trying to screw you.
and as Tom pointed out... you will always be wrong. A cabbie calls the police. You WILL be wrong. Learn to accept it. If you must fight with someone over something, at least make sure it's something that is life-altering or at least means something.

Come on now... you had to pay for the wrong drinks or you got short changed by a cabbie or were given false bills. This is Colombia. Had you just realized that this is the way life is in Colombia and accepted it you may have had a good time. Instead, you pouted and it ruined your vacation after spending how much on a plane ticket, etc. If you wanted a perfect world go to Club Med in Cancun or something similar.

Doronto
04-28-07, 20:33
Hello,

I don't know how you can have that much troubles with the Taxi drivers.

1. Until midnight they use meters. Ask them politely to turn it on, in case one should "forget" (never happend to me!).

2. Minimum fare is 3200 if I remember correct, and 3600 on sundays. Additional is 600 for each km und 60 peso for waiting 1 minute. The prices are published somewhere in the car, also the drivers name and the plate number. (The plate number is also written on the door and on the roof. If not, it's not a taxi and you should take another).

3. If you don't have luggage, you can safely wave a driver on the street. After midnight ask first for the price. It should be something like the daytime fare plus 2000 Peso.

4. Don't get in a taxi if there is already a person inside.

5. Don't pay with 50000 or 20000 bills, as they often cannot change.

6. If the driver takes another route, and it coasts 200 Peso more than last time you went... so what?

7. Even if you have absolutely no idea in what part of the town you are, don't show it. Pretend you know the way. MDE is easy, after 2 days you cannot get lost anymore :-).
If the drivers feels, that you're the stupid gringo, he will treat you like that...

8. Usually you can get for a max. of 10000 pesos (12000 at night) at every location in the town.

And finaly: if you don't speak some spanish and don't have a guide you trust, don't go to Colombia! Not only because of the taxi drivers.

Jchipper
04-29-07, 18:30
Well said, this is the country of Bullshitters. I had one chica bullshit all over me when I did her in the ass, Waht a bullshit that was.

Kdog
04-29-07, 19:37
To those who think I was bashing Colombian, I only commented on the gingo capital of Colombia: Medellin. I've been to Cali around 20 times and NEVER experienced the rip-offs in one visit to Medellin. Did I get unlucky? Maybe. But my trip seemed more like a visit to Tijuana than a city in Colombia. It is clear to me all the gringos visiting Medellin are having an effect on Medellin. To those who commented, "why are you worried about 10 or 20 mil"? It's so a place like Medellin doesn't turn into another Tijuana in 10 years.

BTW, I will say the non-pro scene in Medellin is still good. If you stay away from the Face Dos (and the likes) taxi drivers, waiters, and girls, Medellin is still a paradise. I never have the time to invest in hunting non-pros, so Medellin is not for me.

Tom 33
04-29-07, 20:53
To those who think I was bashing Colombian, I only commented on the gingo capital of Colombia: Medellin. I've been to Cali around 20 times and NEVER experienced the rip-offs in one visit to Medellin. Did I get unlucky? Maybe. But my trip seemed more like a visit to Tijuana than a city in Colombia. It is clear to me all the gringos visiting Medellin are having an effect on Medellin. To those who commented, "why are you worried about 10 or 20 mil"? It's so a place like Medellin doesn't turn into another Tijuana in 10 years.

BTW, I will say the non-pro scene in Medellin is still good. If you stay away from the Face Dos (and the likes) taxi drivers, waiters, and girls, Medellin is still a paradise. I never have the time to invest in hunting non-pros, so Medellin is not for me.
The Gringo capital of Colombia is Cartagena by far.

I visited Cali once and got reamed by a taxista. I don't plan on going back any time soon. However that has nothing to do with the taxista. It has to do with the high unemployment rate in Cali. They have to eat somehow.

I, too, stay away from Face Dos and from Poblado.

If you try some of the casas/massage parlors off the beaten track, you can get an hour for 40K from a hot chica. You can troll the Botero Plaza area or Mayorista and get an hour for 20K. You do have to shop a bit on the street, and you may have to pay another 20K for a room.

Kdogg21
04-29-07, 22:04
Is it just a coincidence, but all these I know someone or I was robbed posts start or finish with "I WAS DRNUK". I think not.

Zerf 1
04-30-07, 00:21
Hi,

This site was listed recently on this web site. Has anyone stayed here before? Is it girl friendly?

Escort King
04-30-07, 01:56
Is it just a coincidence, but all these I know someone or I was robbed posts start or finish with "I WAS DRNUK". I think not.
Some of my best stories start that way.... but are now told starting Hi my name is........

Tom 33
04-30-07, 01:58
Some of my best stories start that way.... but are now told starting Hi my name is........
Yo tambien por 22 anos ahora.

BeersTerry
04-30-07, 03:05
I said, similar experiences opinions.

No I have not had bad experiences in Medellin, I've only had a couple of scary moments.

I stayed in VIP before Kevin became the owner and have outlined my opinion at the beginning of the VIP versus Mansion thread.

Fase Dos ? Gotten too expensive. You choose whether you go to get ripped off or not. Though, it is worth a visit, if just to see.

I must like Medellin or I would'nt keep going back.

Davidb3069
05-01-07, 02:48
:Plan:
We are considering either renting an apt. in Medellin or stay at a hotel. Also we are thinking of renting a car/van either for the whole duration of our stay or for a few days if the situation calls for a trip to the cities/beaches around.As a few others have said, forget about renting a car. Stick to taxis and commercial buses if you need to. Transportation is generally very inexpensive. I've taken buses that took me 4 hours away for roughly $30 round trip.

David B.

Col Bog 1
05-03-07, 16:06
To night, I was decided to try some new places.

I fixed my choice on Energy (Cra 74 49-101).

I took my taxi and arrived there in 15/20 minutes (from the Poblado). Energy is very close form the city stadium and they had a Soccer party that night so the streets were very crowded and there was a very good feeling going on with all those people.

I entered Energy and was amazed by the houseís luxurious decoration.

This house is really different than the others casas.

I was received by the Mamasan and seated in a nice sofa.

She gave me the prices 75KCop for 60 minutes.

Then the girls came with the Loutronís ritual, the girl enter and say her name, she has a white blouse, take it off, let you admire how she is done, made a half turn so you can admire her butt, put the blouse on again, say good bye and live the place for the next girl to come.

That night they "only" had 7 girls, 2 of them charmed me and I asked to talk with the last one.

She arrived, very nice looking, tall and thin, small natural breast and a charming smile (with brackets. But you get use to that when you live in Colombia). I then asked her if she would do a BBBJ and anal.

She said no twice. And proposed me to ask the other girls.

But none of them would do that.

So I decided to visit some other places.

On my Palm, I saw that I was not very far from the Calle 44 and its multiple interesting places. Then I walked some 10 minutes till I arrived to Calle 44 73-87 witch is reported to be a massage parlour with the name of Gipsy.

When I arrived (8:30pm), I rang the bell and wait. Nothing happened, I supposed they would close around 7pm? This place looks like a bad casa and the direction is just a door, but it could be Gipsy.

Then I walked to the next place: Apoteosis Club Calle 44 74-70.

I entered after paying the 5KCop fee witch gave me the right to a beer (I took a bottle of water).

This place is a nice strip place even though no show was going on at that moment They had 7 girls at that moment, but they were seated at their table and only one tried to establish an eye contact with me but she was not my kind. So I left after 5 minutes.

The next near-bye Club is Nemesis Calle 44 78-90.

I couldnít find it. There is no 78-90 in the Calle 44.

I decided then to visit the last Calle 44ís Club I had on my list: Pegasos Calle 44 80-15.

I had difficulties to find that place, but finally I could find it, but it is a carís spare parts shop. I could find no sign of a club there.

It was almost 9 pm and I decided to visit Miel y Canela Carrera 65 32a-43. I had phoned them before leaving my hotel and they told me they would close at 10pm.

I stopped a taxi and we arrived there in 10 minutes.

When I entered the place I saw immediately that there was no activity at all. There were 3 girls on a sofa watching a TV novela.

They invited me to seat with them and they told me their "menu":

- 60KCop for 60 minutes. 110 with anal. 120 for 2 girls. 160 for 2 girls with lesbi show.

One of the girls, Carolina, was just astounding. Iíd give her a 9 or 10.

She was exactly as I like them: a little doll, thin, cute, pretty, nice, smiling, friendly, . And she had a tremendous pair of boobs, and a very flat stomach!

Well, you know by now how I was feeling.

The other girl, Paola, was not that attractive, but she was driving the conversation and she was pleasant.

They proposed me several times to take them both, and I finally made up my mind on that.

As I was the only customer and it was already 9:10pm I asked for BBBJ and they agreed!

I didnít ask for anal but was decided to explore that in the room.

We then climbed this incredible spiral staircase to the upper level and I left the girls choose their favourite room, the blue one.

The bed is incredibly hard, witch is ok for my poor back.

We decided to start with a shower party for the 3 of us.

They have warm water!

We then entered in the exploring game wich was just very nice having these 2 cutes taking care of me.

Then, back to the room and we started with BBBJ and pussy licking.

I was really in paradise changing pussy every 2 minutes and having them both making a nice BBBJ while the other would finger me.

We remained like that for probability 20 minutes, when I decided to go to step 2. They covered me and I started in missionary with Paola, then (changing condom) doggy with Carolina, what a wonderful ass hole!

Then Back to Paola, . .

After 15 minutes of that I was really tired and loosing stiffness.

So I took out that bloody condom, and back again in oral, BBBJ.

Girls worried why I wouldnít come, and I really tried to concentrate, but no, no way. So I said forget it, and we went to the shower.

And it was while we were showering that I had an incredible recover, asked the girl for a last HJ and, finally, reached climax.

That was really a happy end!

Then we got dressed, turned off the light, went down on that incredible stair, they called me a taxi (Miel y canela is in a not so transited street), kissed good bye and I went back to my hotel.

Cheers

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Ford
05-10-07, 21:00
Col Blog 1- nice report! Great details and good stuff!

I wish you had taken a couple of these girls "para llevar" back to your residence and took a few retratos! Carolina and Paola from Miel y Canela sound familiar to me.

I don't suppose you have any pics? A Description.

Nice report!:)

Escort King
05-10-07, 21:11
Miel y Canela is definitely out of the way... but the girls are friendly.... there were about 6 or 7 when I was there and a few were really cute... 8-9s easily.

Col Bog 1
05-11-07, 04:28
Col Blog 1- nice report! Great details and good stuff!

I wish you had taken a couple of these girls "para llevar" back to your residence and took a few retratos! Carolina and Paola from Miel y Canela sound familiar to me.

I don't suppose you have any pics? A Description.

Nice report! Thanks Ford.

No, I prefer avoid taking girls to my regular hotel in Medellin, people do know me there and I don't want them to see what I'm doing, this is a "family business" hotel. To tell the real truth, as it was late when I left Miel y canela I was thinking of inviting them for a late supper, and asked them what they would do now, but they told me that they wanted to go home, so I didn't insist.

For the pictures, I have a very nice camera, but it is too big to remain in a pocket, so I try to make some pictures with my cell, but the quality is real poor.

As this room had very few light I had no chance to make any pics.

So sorry, they were real nice girls.

I will have to buy a small pocket camera one of these days.

Escort King, Yes Miel y Canela is far but it cost less than 7K in taxi from the Poblado, so it's not that far.

Major problem in Medellin is that all the Casas closed around 6 or 7 pm, so if you're looking for a nice one after work you have to deal with what's still opened and the choice is reduced.

I was really lucky that night. Cheers.

Ford
05-12-07, 15:48
Yes Col Blog 1 that is a big problem. The "casas" are fun and they close too early 6pm-8pm. Which leaves "players" with the same two crappy options late into the night. Fase II - that crappy SC ....and "Casa Blanca" that overpriced casa de citas with that dueŮa gordita ...guarding the front door! :(

Too bad Miel y Canela closes so early...........

Zerf 1
05-14-07, 13:41
Is anyone using other hotels besides VIP and the Mansion? I am looking for a place that is Chica friendly and has a broadband connection. I don't need any help like they provide at the two mentioned places. Any suggestions? I am travelling in August as well which is high season for prices. Hotel prices have gone up significantly during the last two years.

Escort King
05-14-07, 17:13
Is anyone using other hotels besides VIP and the Mansion? I am looking for a place that is Chica friendly and has a broadband connection. I don't need any help like they provide at the two mentioned places. Any suggestions? I am travelling in August as well which is high season for prices. Hotel prices have gone up significantly during the last two years.

If you dig through you should find a bunch mentioned.... let me know if you do not find anything and I can try a do a couple of searches for you

Tom 33
05-14-07, 18:49
Is anyone using other hotels besides VIP and the Mansion? I am looking for a place that is Chica friendly and has a broadband connection. I don't need any help like they provide at the two mentioned places. Any suggestions? I am travelling in August as well which is high season for prices. Hotel prices have gone up significantly during the last two years.
http://www.torrepoblado.com/inicio.html

JudgeSchmails
05-14-07, 20:03
I have stayed at the Torre Poblado before. It is good. If a girl stays more than 2 hours, they charge your room a guest fee of $30K COP. Each floor has it's own internet to log onto with wireless for those using Skype. Breakfast is free, but they will charge you for everything else. I order cheese on my eggs every day and it showed up on my bill. Personally, I would rather be charged a few bucks more and not be nickled, but that being said, it is my favorite hotel in Medellin for someone who does not need or like Castillo/Mansion. It feels like a suite as the bedroom is in a different room with a big living room and kitchen. I even had a Thanksgiving feast there that was unbelievable. And it is walking distance from Parque LLeras, which is the best reason to stay there. And they is a little empana place one block south towards Poblado Ave that has the best empanadas. They only sell empandas so you can't miss it.

I stayed there for a week and it cost around $500 total with all of my charges.

I would warn as I learned the hard way, do not let them do your laundry. A load of laundry may cost upwards to $50. I have noticed that many other hotels outside the US do this as well. But they got me as I needed to do laundry and bam!

Regulr Travlr
05-14-07, 23:01
Col Bog hit on two good ones at this casa. Just returned from an afternoon outing with Spider, Poor But Horny, and Doc from the VIP. I had Paola. The good news is that she starts on the afternoon shift at 2, so I was her first customer for the day. Carolina works the afternoon shift as well. She arrived late today so we missed her in the roll call, but Doc caught up with her and arranged a session for later in the week. She is as described by Col Bog

Paola was not as cute in the face, but had a phenomenal body. A little darker skinned, flat stomach, nice ass and good size natural tits. No kids!
Very responsive and agressive in the room. Offered the BBBJ without me asking. And was very good at it. We went a long time. Moved to doggie and CG. I told her I would not be able to finish in the condom. So we went back to BBBJ until I finished. Wouldn't let me CIM, but all over her face.

Good girl I would repeat.

Menteng
05-14-07, 23:32
well, mentioning the minimum age for sex in indonesia is not allowed. jackson deleted my posting and the postings of some reactions on that. funny that the majority of those reactions were focused on the word "young". some even presuming i'm a ****, while in fact i was looking for information on barebacking.

i specificly wrote "young" in that posting, because, reading the fr's in this thread gave me the impression that only older women are willing to do barebacking.

so, i would like to repeat my request: please give me information where to find girls/women, 18 years and older, who are willing to do barebacking.

and like i wrote before, spare me your disapproval about barebacking. i don't give a f..k about it.

btw, i'm still waiting for a pm from you, senor nuez.

Zerf 1
05-15-07, 03:51
If you dig through you should find a bunch mentioned.... let me know if you do not find anything and I can try a do a couple of searches for youThanks, I tried a couple of searches but I was unable to find anything. If you could offer some suggestions I would appreciate it.

Latin Bound
05-15-07, 12:20
http://www.torrepoblado.com/inicio.htmlI rented out an apartment near el centro for 100k pesos a day (roughly 50.00 usd). It has 3 bedrooms, and everything needed. I don't think it has internet connection. I had it scouted by a local and said is great. Ill let you know when I come back.

Latin Bound
05-16-07, 04:46
Hey guys!

I will be in Medelling from the 9th to the 15th of June. Any chance of hooking with any of you out there?

Col Bog 1
05-17-07, 05:29
Yes Col Blog 1 that is a big problem. The "casas" are fun and they close too early 6pm-8pm. Which leaves "players" with the same two crappy options late into the night. Fase II - that crappy SC ....and "Casa Blanca" that overpriced casa de citas with that dueŮa gordita ...guarding the front door! :(

Too bad Miel y Canela closes so early...........Hi Ford,

That would be a nice information.

Where can one go for mongering after 10pm ?

- I know Fase II, but it's expansive (150K)

- SC ? what is it ?

- Casa Blanca ? Checking in my datas, I see that they are downtown. I thought they would all close around 6pm there ???

- The San Diego Strip club is a little bit cheaper (100K)

- I want to try Oriente Lejano but it is supposed to be very expansive.

I may try it tomorrow or ther day after, just to figure it out. I phoned them once and they told me that they remained open till very late (4am ?)

Any other suggestion?

Thanks in advance.

Sil123
05-17-07, 17:23
Hey guys!

I will be in Medelling from the 9th to the 15th of June. Any chance of hooking with any of you out there?I'll be in Medellin from the 10th to the 16th and stay at the VIP. Let me know were and when and I'll be there.

Escort King
05-17-07, 18:08
Late night is the walk around downtown or the clubs.... if you are looking for real late I would suggest getting numbers etc and making plans with dancers for when they get off.... even offer to arrange their transportation

Viejo Santos
05-17-07, 20:00
1st off thanks to everyone for making this forum such a great place for info etc.

I am going to Medellin in about 2 weeks just wondering if anyone knew of a really good massage parlors that really knows how to give a excellent massage?

I've read lots of great reports on different MP's, but I haven't seen you guys mentioned a great massage.

Cachorro
05-17-07, 22:11
SC = strip club.

Col Bog, get your private messages working and I have some addresses I can pass on.

Salsero Loco
05-18-07, 03:53
1st off thanks to everyone for making this forum such a great place for info etc.

I am going to Medellin in about 2 weeks just wondering if anyone knew of a really good massage parlors that really knows how to give a excellent massage?

I've read lots of great reports on different MP's, but I haven't seen you guys mentioned a great massage.



In my experience, the quality of the actual massage in Medellin has more to do with the girl than with the place. I am also always looking for a great massage in addition to great service after, its the Holy Grail for me! Best I ever had was a girl at Abydos named, as I recall, Mariana. She is tall, slim, fair-skinned and beautiful with long black hair and gives a great massage and a great GFE after. She kisses you like your GF and allows DATY but I have sadly never been able to convince her to do BBBJ. Would probably marry her if she did! LOL

SL

Col Bog 1
05-18-07, 09:33
What a night!

After finishing my business late supper, I went back to my hotel, had a shower and left my room.

I was decided, this time Iíll visit the famous Oriente Lejano Carrera 41, #18D-55. My taxi (stopped in the street in front of my hotel), drove me there right away as he knew that place.

That Carrera is in one of these incredible climbing street of Medellin: Las lomas. The Taxi stopped in front of a big white gate and horned till they would open the door and let us in.

I paid my 5K to the taxi and entered a very nice house with the reception on top and the living room at the bottom of the house.

I went downstairs and a young fellow came and asked me if I wanted a drink or to see the girls first.

As I had read many post telling that that place is expansive, I asked him immediately how much they would charge.

The answer let me without voice: 220K!

Iím not a poor old guy, but I refuse to pay that kind of money for that service in Medellin knowing that you can have a very nice girl for 60K in the casas during the day or even 100 to 150 in the strip club (San Diego, Fase 2, .)

So, I said no thanks and left the place immediately.

I was lucky enough to find my taxi who had not left and he took me out of that place. Then, it was around 11h30, and I wanted to have some action, so where could we go?

Speaking with him, he recommended me Fase 2, but I wanted to try something new. So he told me about an Asiatic guy who were in the Mansion and asked him to go to Lindas Chicas Calle 58 50A-54 (Kickboxer was it you? ) according to that taxi, that guy knew the casa better than him.

As I had it on my list, I said ok lets go.

That place is downtown but at 11h30 thereís no traffic jam, so we arrived there very fast.

The house is really nice and well decorated and furnished, it is definitely a luxury house.

The Mamasan asked me if I wanted to see the girl and I said yes of course.

They had 10 girls, 3 of them where slim and not to tall (my choice), but they had girls for different taste (fleshy, fat, tall, .)

I chose Marie Luz, a medium size girl, very slim with a small natural breast and a nice smile.

She had an Asiatic look, and seemed willing to act.

She sat with me and we started to talk a little bit.

She was not very aggressive with me (I like girls to touch me right from the beginning), and I had to maintain the conversation.

Finally I asked her for my favourite actions: DATY, BBFS and anal and she said YES to all.

So I asked the price and she told me 100K, for how long? , for a moment, How long is a moment? 2, 5 hours!

I was not so sure because I had to get up the next day to go to work, but, you only live once, so I said yes.

She asked for a drink (whisky) and I had to pay 15K.

Then I discovered that the room was not included. The Mamasan asked for 70K for up to 3 hours.

As it was almost midnight I knew that I wouldnít be able to stay that long, so I paid the 70 and we went up a stair till second floor where the rooms are.

Rooms are like the house, big, with a nice bed and a private bathroom.

Marie Luz proposed me to start with a shower, the only problem is that they have only cold water, and that water was really cold.

But I had to follow that young beauty and I was already in a very interesting situation.

So we started with mutual exploration with soap and it was nice despite the cold water.

We then went to bed and I started my favourite DATY.

She responded well, not moaning, but moving well and guiding my head to her clit. I then turned my body to let her start a 69 and she gave me a very good BBBJ. I mean real gooooooooooooooooood, so I had to stop her or come right away. So I went back licking her pussy and this time I fingered her ass, first with the index, then with the thumb and she kept moving all the time, I was in paradise.

After that, I wanted to rub my best friend with her pussy and ass, so I went in missionary and started to play. She had no reaction at all and she was widely opened, so I understood that she was ok for BBFS and I entered in that juicy pussy. Men, what can I say? I know itís bad to do that, Iím taking risks, I could get aids or any sexual disease, but I canít help, itís just to good, and I donít feel the tenth part with a condom. I remained in her fucking slowly for only a minute because I was so exited that I wouldnít have been able to stop myself.

So I left the Heavenís door and went back DATY for a while.

Then back again in that marvellous pussy, and that time I was not able to stand the pleasure any longer and came very strongly (out of her of course).

At that moment of the night, it was probably 12:45 I needed to recover, but Mary Luz was looking for the second one and she immediately started to stimulate my best friend.

I had to stop her because I needed to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and you guys know how painful it is when we are hard.

We spoke a little bit, Marie Luz is 23 and study English (beginner though), that Casa is opened 24 Hours a day 365 days a year.

Mary Luz arrives around 9pm and remain there until 6 am.

So I had a 15 minutes rest, went to the rest room, and then back to action again. We went into a lot of different positions (missionary, doggy, Cow girl, .) and we were both exhausted after a long training session (all BBFS).

Then I asked for the hellís door and I saw that she was not willing to do it.

I remembered her that she agreed to anal downstairs, but she was complaining of how painful it is for her.

As I was having BBFS I didnít insist and kept my dream on that nice tight ass. We remained acting for quite a while but I wasnít able to come again, so after almost an hour and 45 minutes of action I decided to stop because it was just not a pleasure any more.

We showered again, got dressed, went downstairs, they called me a taxi, there was a drunk Yankee in the lobby speaking with the girls, and I left back to my hotel.

I left you with the 2 bad pictures of that beauty.

Iíll give her a 10 and recommend her very warmly.

Cheers

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Aussie Greg
05-18-07, 14:03
Loco,

Marry her,

You would haft to stand in line !!! she has many admirers and can pick who she wants, she has a Colombian boyfriend anyway, they all do even my girlfriends.

Aussie G.






In my experience, the quality of the actual massage in Medellin has more to do with the girl than with the place. I am also always looking for a great massage in addition to great service after, its the Holy Grail for me! Best I ever had was a girl at Abydos named, as I recall, Mariana. She is tall, slim, fair-skinned and beautiful with long black hair and gives a great massage and a great GFE after. She kisses you like your GF and allows DATY but I have sadly never been able to convince her to do BBBJ. Would probably marry her if she did! LOL

SL

Winner71
05-18-07, 20:04
Yikes... kind of scary when you find a chica that is game without a condom. I did this gal as well back in November at 3:30am... one of my very very few p4p evenings in the last 2 years. I went into the place and there were only 3 chicas. The house was beautiful and I had no idea where I was.. taxi choose the spot. I wasn't interested in any of the chicas and asked if there was anyone else. She asked what I liked... I said, "flaca and senos pequenos." And the mamasan left for about 5 minutes and came back with our chica in the photo... I didn't remember her name. I was pretty drunk. I think she went and woke her up.

She does give a great bbbj. I however had my own condom for the full service and she put it on me. After reading your post I'm glad she did because as I recall she asked me if I wanted her to put the condom on or not. Any idea what that rot is on her left leg? I thought it was a bruise, but since it's in your foto and my fotos from November that can't possibly be a bruise.

A few other things... They asked me for 100k pesos. I told them I only had 40k pesos to pay as I only had 60k pesos in my wallet and I need the other
20k pesos for my taxi... I had been in the taxi for about an hour, and he was to wait for me outside and take me home afterward. When I said all I have is 40k pesos, she looked at the mamasan and said... "let's go." Then there was the issue of the room. The mamasan wanted 60k pesos for the room. I gave her 20k pesos.. all that I had.

Like I said, I rarely do p4p. But that was 60k pesos well spent as she had a really good attitude. Fun girl. It lasted at least 2 hours. Nice gal, definitely recommendable for p4p mongers... oddly you'd think they'd give this gal a decent wardrobe. Look at the photos. Same exact clothes from your trip and mine in November.


What a night!


The house is really nice and well decorated and furnished, it is definitely a luxury house.

The Mamasan asked me if I wanted to see the girl and I said yes of course.

They had 10 girls, 3 of them where slim and not to tall (my choice), but they had girls for different taste (fleshy, fat, tall, .)

I chose Marie Luz, a medium size girl, very slim with a small natural breast and a nice smile.

She had an Asiatic look, and seemed willing to act.

She sat with me and we started to talk a little bit.

She was not very aggressive with me (I like girls to touch me right from the beginning), and I had to maintain the conversation.

Finally I asked her for my favourite actions: DATY, BBFS and anal and she said YES to all.

So I asked the price and she told me 100K, for how long? , for a moment, How long is a moment? 2, 5 hours!

I was not so sure because I had to get up the next day to go to work, but, you only live once, so I said yes.

She asked for a drink (whisky) and I had to pay 15K.

Then I discovered that the room was not included. The Mamasan asked for 70K for up to 3 hours.

As it was almost midnight I knew that I wouldnít be able to stay that long, so I paid the 70 and we went up a stair till second floor where the rooms are.

Rooms are like the house, big, with a nice bed and a private bathroom.

Marie Luz proposed me to start with a shower, the only problem is that they have only cold water, and that water was really cold.

But I had to follow that young beauty and I was already in a very interesting situation.

So we started with mutual exploration with soap and it was nice despite the cold water.

We then went to bed and I started my favourite DATY.

She responded well, not moaning, but moving well and guiding my head to her clit. I then turned my body to let her start a 69 and she gave me a very good BBBJ. I mean real gooooooooooooooooood, so I had to stop her or come right away. So I went back licking her pussy and this time I fingered her ass, first with the index, then with the thumb and she kept moving all the time, I was in paradise.

After that, I wanted to rub my best friend with her pussy and ass, so I went in missionary and started to play. She had no reaction at all and she was widely opened, so I understood that she was ok for BBFS and I entered in that juicy pussy. Men, what can I say? I know itís bad to do that, Iím taking risks, I could get aids or any sexual disease, but I canít help, itís just to good, and I donít feel the tenth part with a condom. I remained in her fucking slowly for only a minute because I was so exited that I wouldnít have been able to stop myself.

So I left the Heavenís door and went back DATY for a while.

Then back again in that marvellous pussy, and that time I was not able to stand the pleasure any longer and came very strongly (out of her of course).

At that moment of the night, it was probably 12:45 I needed to recover, but Mary Luz was looking for the second one and she immediately started to stimulate my best friend.

I had to stop her because I needed to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and you guys know how painful it is when we are hard.

We spoke a little bit, Marie Luz is 23 and study English (beginner though), that Casa is opened 24 Hours a day 365 days a year.

Mary Luz arrives around 9pm and remain there until 6 am.

So I had a 15 minutes rest, went to the rest room, and then back to action again. We went into a lot of different positions (missionary, doggy, Cow girl, .) and we were both exhausted after a long training session (all BBFS).

Then I asked for the hellís door and I saw that she was not willing to do it.

I remembered her that she agreed to anal downstairs, but she was complaining of how painful it is for her.

As I was having BBFS I didnít insist and kept my dream on that nice tight ass. We remained acting for quite a while but I wasnít able to come again, so after almost an hour and 45 minutes of action I decided to stop because it was just not a pleasure any more.

We showered again, got dressed, went downstairs, they called me a taxi, there was a drunk Yankee in the lobby speaking with the girls, and I left back to my hotel.

I left you with the 2 bad pictures of that beauty.

Iíll give her a 10 and recommend her very warmly.

Cheers

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Menteng
05-18-07, 22:02
Finally I asked her for my favourite actions: DATY, BBFS and anal and she said YES to all.



Por fin!! Someone who shares my favourite actions! Thanks CB, for the indirect information. I asked for it recently.
This Colombia thread really differs from the Indonesia/Jakarta thread where the mongers give each other the best information they have! Either in the Forum or by PM.

BeersTerry
05-18-07, 22:54
Mariana ! She told me she was going to give up sucking cocks.

Viejo Santos
05-18-07, 23:31
Salsero Loco thanks alot for the info.

Winner71
05-18-07, 23:55
Of course.. what do you expect from a country that has been at civil war for 40+ years and no foreign investment? Heck even Donald Trump himself is building a resort outside of Cartagena. This is why I keep saying the price in Cartagena for a chica is really the same price as it ever was in relation to any other goods and services.

Expect the peso to continue it's torrid pace, because truth be told... even though Colombia has phenomal economic opportunities the policies in place still make it difficult for an investor to want to throw his money toward Colombia. I imagine one day this will change as Uribe's an educated cat and will realize that if he wants foreign investments he has to make it attractive for an investor to 1) get a good return on his money and 2) be able to get his money out of Colombia when he wants.

While, yes it's probably not what mongers want to hear, Colombia is progressing. Colombians are educated... in fact the most educated of any latin american country. I expect the peso to continue to be more and more valuable. SOme might say it's because the dollar is in the shitter. That obviously helps the peso... but it's Colombia's own economic and political advances that are fueling it's stregnth as well. Look at a chart of the Colombian Peso versus the Euro over the last year. It's not just strong against the dollar. The truth is in the charts.


The dollar is sinking further in value against the peso. One dollar gets you 1, 975 pesos. Colombia is becoming one of the most expensive destinations compared to a year ago (dollar was 2605).

Compare..$200,000.00 at 2600 (June 2006) was 520,000,000 pesos

$200,000.00 at 1975 (today) is 395,000,000

You just lost 125,000,000 pesos!

Your comments please.

MiamiHeatLuver
05-19-07, 00:48
Of course.. what do you expect from a country that has been at civil war for 40+ years and no foreign investment? Heck even Donald Trump himself is building a resort outside of Cartagena. This is why I keep saying the price in Cartagena for a chica is really the same price as it ever was in relation to any other goods and services.

Expect the peso to continue it's torrid pace, because truth be told... even though Colombia has phenomal economic opportunities the policies in place still make it difficult for an investor to want to throw his money toward Colombia. I imagine one day this will change as Uribe's an educated cat and will realize that if he wants foreign investments he has to make it attractive for an investor to 1) get a good return on his money and 2) be able to get his money out of Colombia when he wants.

While, yes it's probably not what mongers want to hear, Colombia is progressing. Colombians are educated... in fact the most educated of any latin american country. I expect the peso to continue to be more and more valuable. SOme might say it's because the dollar is in the shitter. That obviously helps the peso... but it's Colombia's own economic and political advances that are fueling it's stregnth as well. Look at a chart of the Colombian Peso versus the Euro over the last year. It's not just strong against the dollar. The truth is in the charts.

This is so disatrous for Americanos and might be here so stay im affraid,, my friend was telling me he used to go to the DR around 2000-2001 and the peso was at about 55 to 1 now its been stead fast at around 32 to 1 for the last what like 4 years now? Can you imagine the Peso and dollar coing to a steadfast of like 1800 to 1$? What a disaster for someone like me who was gonna buy real estate in some areas.

Col Bog 1
05-19-07, 00:52
Yikes. Kind of scary when you find a chica that is game without a condom. I did this gal as well back in November at 3:30am. One of my very very few p4p evenings in the last 2 years. I went into the place and there were only 3 chicas. The house was beautiful and I had no idea where I was. Taxi choose the spot. I wasn't interested in any of the chicas and asked if there was anyone else. She asked what I liked. I said, "flaca and senos pequenos. " And the mamasan left for about 5 minutes and came back with our chica in the photo. I didn't remember her name. I was pretty drunk. I think she went and woke her up.

She does give a great BBBJ. I however had my own condom for the full service and she put it on me. After reading your post I'm glad she did because as I recall she asked me if I wanted her to put the condom on or not. Any idea what that rot is on her left leg? I thought it was a bruise, but since it's in your foto and my fotos from November that can't possibly be a bruise.

A few other things. They asked me for 100k pesos. I told them I only had 40k pesos to pay as I only had 60k pesos in my wallet and I need the other 20k pesos for my taxi. I had been in the taxi for about an hour, and he was to wait for me outside and take me home afterward. When I said all I have is 40k pesos, she looked at the mamasan and said. "let's go. " Then there was the issue of the room. The mamasan wanted 60k pesos for the room. I gave her 20k pesos. All that I had.

Like I said, I rarely do p4p. But that was 60k pesos well spent as she had a really good attitude. Fun girl. It lasted at least 2 hours. Nice gal, definitely recommendable for p4p mongers. Oddly you'd think they'd give this gal a decent wardrobe. Look at the photos. Same exact clothes from your trip and mine in November. Hi Winner71.

Yes, it's definitely the same girl.

I can't say for the Beersterry's post:


Mariana! She told me she was going to give up sucking cocks. because I can't recognise the girl from behind.

No, I don't know what these red bruises are.

I noticed them but didn't ask.

If you're very concerned by health protection (and you should), of course you must always use condoms.

I realise that I'm crazy, but, as I wrote, it's just too gooooooood!

As someone wrote, Colombian p4p girls are basically girls who need money to pay their studies, food and clothes for their family, and these kind of things.

Drug addicts are not common in the casa (Iíve never seen one), so, I take my chance.

I donít like to discuss prices. Each time I did that, and convinced the girl to go for my price, I had received a bad service.

Today, If the price is ok I say yes, if it's not ok, I say that it's too expansive for me, excuse myself and leave.

So they just loose a customer for high price, but I think that itís better than telling them that their value is less that what they ask for.

I think itís a kind of respect for these girls who have a tough job.

Sometimes, the girl calls you back and asks you to offer something, there I can start a negotiation.

For the ward robes, I suppose that just like me, they have their work clothes and their home or feast clothes.

Marie Luz told me that this Casaís customers where basically foreigners, Gringos but also a lot of Latin Americans and Europeans.

So they must not have a high repeat customerís level.

And after all, I donít care how she is dressed, Important thing for me is how she behaves.

Cheers

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Col Bog 1
05-19-07, 01:30
Por fin! Someone who shares my favourite actions! Thanks CB, for the indirect information. I asked for it recently.

This Colombia thread really differs from the Indonesia/Jakarta thread where the mongers give each other the best information they have! Either in the Forum or by PM. Hi Menteng,

Yes it looks like we are looking for the same kind of pleasure.

I have seen your previous report, but I was shocked by the last sentence:


And like I wrote before, spare me your disapproval about barebacking. I don't give a f. K about it. I donít know the Indonesia/Jakarta thread, but I post on the Colombian and Ecuadorian thread (plus some Venezuelian sites), and, for what I have seen so far (I started to post only a few month ago), most people are friendly and willing to help.

So when I read that kind of sentence why should I help someone who says that he doesnít care about my opinion?

You could write the same thing without telling the others that you donít care about their opinions, for exemple:

- Donít tell me Iím crazy, I already know it, or

- Yes I know, I shouldnít do that, but itís just too goooooooooood! Or

- Of course I already know that itís dangerous, but I just canít come with a condom.

Just my 2 cents, please, donít take it badly, itís just my personal feeling.

Now to your request:

I would say that 5 to 10% of Colombian p4p girls would do BBFS.

If you accept only BBBJ, it should reach 10 to 20 % or more.

The only way to know it, is to ask them.

Thereís only one risk. And thatís what you and I are looking for, they may say YES. If they say NO, just say, Ok, I understand, do you know one girl who would do it? Some Mamasan are very helpful and will find/call the special girl.

Finally, if you are very nice, some girl will accept BBFS in the action even if they said no at the beginning.

I recently went in a Casa in Bogota (you can check the report) and the girl said yes to BBBJ if I wouldnít say a world to the other girls or the mamasan.

Social pressure to use condom is strong.

Good luck and stay cool.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Texas Slim
05-19-07, 01:44
www.newsweek.com

RoadGlide
05-19-07, 06:23
Texas; Could you be a little more specific about what Newsweek story you are talking about?

Thanks RG.

Col Bog 1
05-19-07, 06:24
Even if I was tired from yesterday, I couldnít loose the opportunity to chase some nice girl tonight.

I fixed my choice on Casa Blanca Carrera 50A 57-38 witch is supposed to be opened late at night.

I left my nice hotel in the Poblado, stoped a taxi and there we go.

Even if the taxis of Medellin like everywhere else in Colombia drive as crazy this one was really a dangerous guy and made all kind of crazy things to arrive as soon as possible.

When I arrived at the place, the street was empty and I realised that the door had a big padlock on it. Nobody was there.

So I walked till the Antioquia Museum, saw some street action but nothing to my taste, and I decided to go back to Miel y Canela to see if Carolina and/or Paola would be there.

So, Once again a taxi (better that time) and 7K later, he left me in front of the door of Miel y Canela Carrera 65 32A-43.

I entered the room but Carolina and Paola were not there. Instead, they had 5 girls, all good looking waiting for a late customer.

After the short and informal presentation, I fixed my choice on a little doll: Valeria. I sat with her and we start to talk a little bit on everything.

Then I started the technical talk:

- What kind of services would you do?

- All what you want.

- Iíd love to do it without condom".

She then stared at me like if I was the last fool on earth.

- You look like a nice guy, why do you ask things like that?

- Because I hardly feel anything with a condom

- But arenít you afraid of the sexual diseases? What about Aids?

- Do you personally know someone with Aids?

- No but Iím very afraid of it.

- I have known some, they all died, they were gays, that was many years ago.

- But still it is very dangerous.

- Yes indeed, youíre right.

- And you have been here before? Any girl from Miel y Canela accepted to do it without condom with you?

- This must be my fourth visit, last time I had Carolina and Paola suck me without condom.

. Oh! If itís only for a Blow Job, Iím ok. I understood that you wanted to fuck without condom.

- And would you do anal?

- I might, but it hurts.

- If it hurts, Iím not interested, It must remain a pleasure.

- Itís ok, I can do it, you only have to enter slowly and then it goes well.

After that small talk, we discussed the price.

I knew it was 110 for anal, but she asked me for 150.

- 150 is too expansive for me, I remember that the services were cheaper last time I was here.

- Propose me something then.

- If I remember well, normal price for Anal was 110.

- Ok.

- This includes the BBBJ and the DATY, I just love to make DATY.

- Ok.

- One thing more, I hope youíll let me take some pictures of you?

- Yes!

- So letís go.

We then climbed that amazing staircase and, once again, she chose the blue room. I say once again because this is the only room I have used in my 4 visit.

Girls like it because itís dark and decorated with planets and stars.

The other rooms have much more light, but they donít like that.

We then went to the (hot) shower but she was not interested in playing under the water.

Valeria is small 1, 5 meters (5 feet), have a nice medium size natural breast, a cute face and a very bad belly destroyed by her baby when she was pregnant.

We walked back to the blue room and I started the DATY right away.

She seemed to like it, moving accordingly her pussy with my tongue.

She was moaning and soon asked for more.

After a while, I turned so we could enter in a 69, but she wanted to come and asked for more.

So I went back and gave her what she wanted.

I really sucked her very strongly, fingered her ass, but she really didnít liked it. I donít know if she simulated, but she had an orgasm, and it looked real to me. So, after that I came in missionary position and start to rub my best friend with her pussy, surprisingly, she remained widely opened and didnít scream when I gently enter the head of my best friend in her pussy, so I understood that she was waiting for some BB action, and of course, I did it!

After one or 2 minute of BBFS she seemed to wake up and asked me why I did that, but I was still moving in her and she was not moving her body to escape, but at the contrary, remained stick to me.

So she told me not to come in her and I agree.

She also had a pain in the pussy and didnít stand some position for long.

But we made several positions and I finally came doggy style with a nice view of that nice tight ass that I will never visit. We then showered again and got dressed.

We then made a few shots with my cell (sorry for poor quality) but she insist that I must not put them on Internet, that is why I blurred her face.

I finally gave her 100K, she wanted more, but I said no, You didnít give me what you agreed downstairs (anal).

She didnít insist and I said good bye and left.

I donít think I would repeat her.

I loved the BBFS, and the DATY, but her general attitude didnít convince me.

Cheers

Dickhead
05-19-07, 06:27
"Colombians are educated... in fact the most educated of any latin american country."

Upon what do you base this assertion, and how do you define "educated"? They certainly don't have the highest literacy rate in Latin America, nor the most median years of education. Just curious.

Winner71
05-19-07, 06:42
I actually think your 5-10% would do bbfs and 10-20% would do bbbj is kind of low. I've never had a p4p chica in Colombia not do bbbj. I've never asked either. I just joke around with them and make them like me real quick and the first natural thing for them to do is start giving a bbbj. As for bbffs.. my bet is that number would be much closer to 30-50% if dealt with the right way. I.e. maybe start with a condom and then take it off and just kind of whimper that you can't be pleased with a condom. I realize it's their job and they should keep it protected, but at the end of the day they are still a Colombiana and Colombiana's love to please... it's in their blood. If they still say, no... that's where I would tell them you'll give themm an extra 10-20k pesos.

It's the guys that ask for bbfs or anal downstairs that blow their shot out of the water right from the get-go. If I were a chica I wouldn't say yes to a guy asking to go sin condom from the get-go. That immediately would throw up a red flag. I.e. if he's asking me, he asks everyone so he must certianly have an STD. While that may not be the case, that's the first thing to hit their mind.



Hi Menteng,

Yes it looks like we are looking for the same kind of pleasure.

I have seen your previous report, but I was shocked by the last sentence:

I donít know the Indonesia/Jakarta thread, but I post on the Colombian and Ecuadorian thread (plus some Venezuelian sites), and, for what I have seen so far (I started to post only a few month ago), most people are friendly and willing to help.

So when I read that kind of sentence why should I help someone who says that he doesnít care about my opinion?

You could write the same thing without telling the others that you donít care about their opinions, for exemple:

- Donít tell me Iím crazy, I already know it, or

- Yes I know, I shouldnít do that, but itís just too goooooooooood! Or

- Of course I already know that itís dangerous, but I just canít come with a condom.

Just my 2 cents, please, donít take it badly, itís just my personal feeling.

Now to your request:

I would say that 5 to 10% of Colombian p4p girls would do BBFS.

If you accept only BBBJ, it should reach 10 to 20 % or more.

The only way to know it, is to ask them.

Thereís only one risk. And thatís what you and I are looking for, they may say YES. If they say NO, just say, Ok, I understand, do you know one girl who would do it? Some Mamasan are very helpful and will find/call the special girl.

Finally, if you are very nice, some girl will accept BBFS in the action even if they said no at the beginning.

I recently went in a Casa in Bogota (you can check the report) and the girl said yes to BBBJ if I wouldnít say a world to the other girls or the mamasan.

Social pressure to use condom is strong.

Good luck and stay cool.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Winner71
05-19-07, 06:46
Good question.. .I've read it numerous times in a few articles. I wish I could find one for you, but I can't. I actually think "literacy" is exactly what the articles base it on. So... yes, I should have written Colombians are the most literate latin americans. But, I don't have the article to prove it. I guess I should not have written that, as even if I found an article stating it, I guess it could still be false. Maybe you have some statistics?


"Colombians are educated... in fact the most educated of any latin american country."

Upon what do you base this assertion, and how do you define "educated"? They certainly don't have the highest literacy rate in Latin America, nor the most median years of education. Just curious.

Menteng
05-19-07, 12:16
Hi Menteng,

Yes it looks like we are looking for the same kind of pleasure.

I have seen your previous report, but I was shocked by the last sentence:




Hi CB,

Thank you very much for the good words and information.
As for my rude words, I don't know what your experiences are, but I put it in the way the reactions in common are, when I write I like barebacking. But, again, muchas gracias!

Hunter
05-19-07, 12:43
Good question.. .I've read it numerous times in a few articles. I wish I could find one for you, but I can't. I actually think "literacy" is exactly what the articles base it on. So... yes, I should have written Colombians are the most literate latin americans. But, I don't have the article to prove it. I guess I should not have written that, as even if I found an article stating it, I guess it could still be false. Maybe you have some statistics?I to have read articles saying the same on the subject.

BUT don't know if its true or not, its possibly just a biased Colombian article, written by somebody who likes Colombia.

I would guess that Colombia population is in the top 25% of educated Latin American Countries, where exactly in that 25% I would need more accurate information to comment more on.

Hunter

Aussie Greg
05-19-07, 14:02
Never had a problem here in Colombia with having to wear a condom during oral sex, wether it be a working girl, normal girl or our guard dog Paisa here at the Mansion.

Aussie G.

Texas Slim
05-19-07, 14:35
www.newsweek.comMy apologies - see www.businessweek.com. It is right there at top called "Extreme Investing".

Regulr Travlr
05-19-07, 15:15
I actually think your 5-10% would do bbfs and 10-20% would do bbbj is kind of low. I've never had a p4p chica in Colombia not do bbbj. I've never asked either. I just joke around with them and make them like me real quick and the first natural thing for them to do is start giving a bbbj. As for bbffs.. my bet is that number would be much closer to 30-50% if dealt with the right way. I.e. maybe start with a condom and then take it off and just kind of whimper that you can't be pleased with a condom. I realize it's their job and they should keep it protected, but at the end of the day they are still a Colombiana and Colombiana's love to please... it's in their blood. If they still say, no... that's where I would tell them you'll give themm an extra 10-20k pesos.

It's the guys that ask for bbfs or anal downstairs that blow their shot out of the water right from the get-go. If I were a chica I wouldn't say yes to a guy asking to go sin condom from the get-go. That immediately would throw up a red flag. I.e. if he's asking me, he asks everyone so he must certianly have an STD. While that may not be the case, that's the first thing to hit their mind.


Winner your analysis is correct and Aussie I agree with your perspective.
I have mentioned this before but want to reiterate. In the times I have been to Colombia only 1 girl would not budge off the CBJ. But I wait until after we are going at it, have established some rapport, and in some cases I have performed DATY. Then I let them know that I chuppa sin condon is a must for me. I understand that it will be sexo con condon. But I tell them I cannot get pleasure from a CBJ. In most cases they never even bring it up. If they do they then agree to the BBBJ. At Loutron and at one casa I have had them ask for a propina for this.

Of course you could be like the one guy on here who said he justs rips off the condom and asks them to suck it lika Hoover. I wonder why that doesn't work.

BeersTerry
05-19-07, 16:03
Hey Greg,

Paisa is still at the mansion ? I thought you had to get rid of her.

By-the-way, my picture was of Mariana, not Marie Luz or whoever.
She was tall, well toned and did look very good from behind.

Aussie Greg
05-19-07, 16:49
Beer,

Yes we had to get rid of Paisa ®he wanted covered blow jobs®
Yes I know its a picture of Marianna, beautifull girl, I havnt spoken to her for awhile, Iīll call her to say hi.
Hey, you upset Scooby again, I thought you were his mate !!!!!!

Regards, Aussie G.



Hey Greg,

Paisa is still at the mansion ? I thought you had to get rid of her.

By-the-way, my picture was of Mariana, not Marie Luz or whoever.
She was tall, well toned and did look very good from behind.

Winner71
05-20-07, 01:13
i'm surprised you wrote this mainly because of the comments you made to npaul. this is not to bash npaul becasue i feel for someone with so many issues. however, lets be clear about this so not to get people all paranoid that every gal is out to get their payday.

i'm writing this mainly to give others a little perspective on colombia. a more real-life perspective of colombia than what you wrote. i say this because what you wrote is coming from someone that thinks like a gringo. colombianas don't think like gringos. nor do colombianos. they are not jaded with a lot of the social and political bullshit that goes on in america. now, i am not going to defend nor say knocking up a chica is right. nor will i say that screwing p4p play chicas without a condom is right or wrong. i will also not say that there aren't gold diggers out there, because there are. a lot of them. however, let me tell you a story that will give you a different perspective about what you wrote.

i have a gf in colombia for almost 2 years now. a normal chica. one day we will probably get married. i'm in no rush, and she understands that. that being said. she loves me dearly as does her family. we are all very close. she is very humble as is her family. when i first met her father and she asked his permission to live with me in colombia. his response. well it was quite long. but in a nutshell it was "daughter, you are old enough to make your own decisions in life. you guys can do whatever you'd like with your life. have fun together for a short time, have a baby or babies, get married if you want, or just live together to see how compatible you are together in day to day life. " almost 2 years later. here we are. still novios and i have a fantastic relationship with both herr mother and father. they respect me and i respect them. my gf is getting kind of old. for a colombia (25 years old). i can honestly tell you that while she would love to get married and have kids and spend her whole life with me as a family, if i were to tell her, "no, that is not what i want. " or "i honestly don't think you are the right chica for me or you aren't the chica of my dreams". it would break her heart. but in the end, i'd bet you all the money in the world if i told her listen, "you are going to be a fantastic mother and you deserve a child, i'd be honored to have a child with you and nothing more. " she would jump in a heartbeat. and her parents would be thrilled. colombianas are very motherly and 25 is old to be single in colombia. i'm not saying that i am her last shot by any means. however, she's ready to be a mother and she would love to have my genes. and no one make any green card remarks, as this is not what i'm talking about.

ok moving on. a new story i have a colombiana friend. she's 22 years old. i've known her since right after she turned 18. when she was 15 years old she was knocked up by a 25 yr old argentinian that lives in colombia. thus she now has a 6 yr old son. when she was 15 she left her home to live with him. lot's of drugs on both their parts. she left him when she was 8 months pregnant. he beat her all the time and due to the 24 hour drug use it was a good thing that she left. the baby was born and every 12-18 months since. the parents of this argentian male come to her city where she lives and tries to steal the child. the lat thing this gal is thinking is to ask for any sort of child support etc. she just wants to be a mother and care for her child. which she is doing. she wants as far away as possible from the guy that knocked her up, nor does she want anything from him.

next story, i knew many p4p chicas that worked in ldv over 3 years ago for a stint. not chicas from cartagena. chicas from elsewhere that worked there. many of them went back and forth from cartagena to santa marta to monteria etc. they worked in casas. i knew one very very well, thus i knew all her close friends. about 6 of them. these gals get checked for std's weekly. a doctor comes to the casa and tests them. they pay 8k pesos every week and are tested for hiv, gonnereah, clymidia, and syphiliis. (many mispelled words). if they fail a test, they take medicine and are back at it after cured. note. they are not tested for genital warts or herpes. in fact one of them has herpes. that's not a problem to the casas, at least not the ones they worked at (you guys may keep that in mind before screwing without a condom). all 7 of these gals either are on the pill or get injections into their butt for protection. further, all 7 of them have aborted well over 30 pregnencies before the age of 20. when i say aborted, i'm not talking about going to the gynecolgist and getting it all scraped out etc. in colombia there is a pill that costs less than $10 (i don't know the exact price but i know it's cheap). once they find out they are pregnant they take this pill and it cleans them out. it's probabbly a little more extensive then this. i. e. the makings of the aborted child has to come out from somewhere, but they all talk like it's no big deal.

here's my point. none of these chicas working in casas give a flying fuck if they get knocked up or not. when you come on here saying stuff like "are you ready to take responsibly for when you knock up when of these chicas etc. " that is just not reality in colombia. sure it happened to npaul or whoever it was, i guess. but read through that guys posts and you know what? if i was a chica i might try to get some cash out of him also. all in all, these chicas have no problem aborting the baby. further, unlike in the us where people fight over custody and child support etc. that stuff is just not really an issue in colombia. if a gal gets knocked up and she has the baby. it's becasue she wants to have the baby. some mothers don't even know who the father is, nor care. some mothers want to get as far away as possible from the real father. now i'm not saying. don't use condoms and you have nothing to worry about. nor am i saying. don't use condoms and you are a good man. what i am saying is no colombiano ever uses a condom. ever! some support the kids that they are responisble for, some don't. but at the end of the day, you knock up a p4p chica, most likely she gets knocked up regualrly becasue if she's not making you use a condom she's not making anyone use a condom. thus she has no idea whose baby it is. poor npaul is apparently a victim of his own manners. ie. he seemed like easy prey and i guess is suffering because of it. i can honestly tell you that would never happen to me as my gf is on the pill, all the girls i screw either a) if p4p i use a condom or be) if a non-pro friend, we buy the dia despues pill (15k pesos) because i hate condoms as well.

i'm not condoning sex without condoms with p4p chicas. i'm just pointing at that there is no need to be paranoid about knocking up a chica. there are remedies which they use. abort etc. you went overboard on this issue of russian roullette of leaving a prostitute a single mother and a child fatherless etc. it just wouldn't happen. and you said tha the monger is selfish for his pleasure etc. my repsonse would be, she enjoyed it to. and if not she certianly enjoyed the cash. it goes with the territory of being a prostitute. and we in the us think very differently than those in colombia. about a lot of issues. agian, i don't condone sex without a condom with prostitutes, but i certainly am not going to give someone flack over it anyhow as it just doesn't affect me, the chica or any of us. unless of course you have aids, herpes, or genital warts in which case it does affect the chica. and then of course others that are foolish enough to screw a prostitute sin condom.

hopefully i don't take a lot of flack for this post as i am simply stating what i perceive to be the way colombians think from my experience in colombia.

Surfnk9
05-20-07, 02:26
W71,

Your perception of Columbian society is quite astute. The looking glass goes both ways, our society to theirs, and their society to ours. Itís funny that no matter how different cultures may be, the basic premise of decency and understanding permeates all societies. With regards to your GF and her family, they want what is best for their daughter. Gee, that seems to be universal.

The real question is how do YOU feel about her? Do you love her? Are you really prepared to take on all the obligations of truly loving someone? Yes, the emotional heartstrings of someone who loves you can be strong. But it makes no difference if you donít have the same feelings for her.

Iím not getting on you or trying to pin you down, its just your posting was just so sincere and so refreshing from all the other self centered postings (including my own). Obviously she has feelings for you, and her family respects you.

You stated that you would probably marry her someday but that you are in no rush. Well, after two years you should know. Either go to her father and ask for her hand in marriage, or bail out. Or as they say here, shit or get off the pot. In either case, you will be doing a serviced to her and yourself. I know enough to know that two years of novios is long enough.

I hope Iím not out of place here, I just am responding to your postings. I only wish the best for you and your novia.

Col Bog 1
05-20-07, 06:59
I actually think your 5-10% would do bbfs and 10-20% would do bbbj is kind of low. I've never had a p4p chica in Colombia not do bbbj. I've never asked either. I just joke around with them and make them like me real quick and the first natural thing for them to do is start giving a bbbj. As for bbffs.. my bet is that number would be much closer to 30-50% if dealt with the right way. I.e. maybe start with a condom and then take it off and just kind of whimper that you can't be pleased with a condom. I realize it's their job and they should keep it protected, but at the end of the day they are still a Colombiana and Colombiana's love to please... it's in their blood. If they still say, no... that's where I would tell them you'll give themm an extra 10-20k pesos.

It's the guys that ask for bbfs or anal downstairs that blow their shot out of the water right from the get-go. If I were a chica I wouldn't say yes to a guy asking to go sin condom from the get-go. That immediately would throw up a red flag. I.e. if he's asking me, he asks everyone so he must certianly have an STD. While that may not be the case, that's the first thing to hit their mind.
Winner your analysis is correct and Aussie I agree with your perspective.

I have mentioned this before but want to reiterate. In the times I have been to Colombia only 1 girl would not budge off the CBJ. But I wait until after we are going at it, have established some rapport, and in some cases I have performed DATY. Then I let them know that I chuppa sin condon is a must for me. I understand that it will be sexo con condon. But I tell them I cannot get pleasure from a CBJ. In most cases they never even bring it up. If they do they then agree to the BBBJ. At Loutron and at one casa I have had them ask for a propina for this.

Of course you could be like the one guy on here who said he justs rips off the condom and asks them to suck it lika Hoover. I wonder why that doesn't work.

Hi guys !!!

I have to agree with what you say about my low evaluation of BBBJ & BBFS.
It is higher indeed, but somehow hard to estimate precisely of course.
In the past, I had some girls that wouldnít practice a BBBJ, so I decided to ask first as this is an absolute need for me. I donít want to be in the room and to have to fight for that.
As I wrote in my last report, I try to negotiate my fantasy before I go with the girl.
I think itís better, she knows what I expect from her, and I can have a first feeling before I say letís go.
Once youíre in the room, if you donít have whatís important to you, you feel bad and the behaviour of the girl will not be good neither because she will feel that youíre mad.
If a girl tells me NO, I can still say ok letís go, but it will be my choice.
I remember having seen a perfect 10 who told me NO to all my demands. I really wanted to go with her, but as I knew I would be mad not being able to do what I like, I said no thanksÖ Tough decisionÖ.
When the girl says yes to DATY & BBBJ they always accept it.
Unfortunately it is not the same for Anal, I havenít been very lucky recently with that, girls telling me yes and then not doing it with or without condom.
They always say that my Best friend is too big. I wish it would !!!
I think that the best way to get BBFS is to start with BBBJ and then get close to paradiseís door and see what happen.
This has worked very well in my latest experiences.
I agree that asking for BBFS right away downstairs is probably not a good idea even if you can then turn it to BBFS only.

Cheers.

Winner71
05-20-07, 19:27
Thanks for the kind words. To answer your question it's all about timing. I'm in no rush as I've been married before and while I dream of having a family with this gal and having her with me every day of my life, I also currently value my free time alone to accomplish some of my own personal goals from a career aspect. I am fortunate to be able to travel a lot, and only have to work a few hours aday. But for the time being I cannot commit 24 hours a day 365 days a year to be with a new wife. Yes, I know most people work 8-5 or 8-6 and then go home to their wife etc. My life is kind of different. When I tie the notch again it's because she is everything to me and will have my complete undivided attention. She is everything to me, but for the time being I can't give her all my attention so I prefer to wait. If she loves me now, she will love me in 6 months, a year, 18 months. And if she doesn't well, I guess it was a good thing I waited. I also have quite a bit of temptation for others every time I am in Colombia. I'd prefer to be 100% ready as opposed to tieing the knot again and then regretting it. Regardless, she's a big part of my life and always will be. Fortunately marriage is something no one can tell you when, why, or where you have to do it. We'll do it when the time is right and we are both ready. Could be next month, could be in 5-10 years.

I'm not stringing her along by any means and she as well as her family know it. Everyone has thier own opinions about the way a marriage should be and the pluses and minuses of marriage. I will marry again, it's a matter of when, not if.






W71,

Your perception of Columbian society is quite astute. The looking glass goes both ways, our society to theirs, and their society to ours. Itís funny that no matter how different cultures may be, the basic premise of decency and understanding permeates all societies. With regards to your GF and her family, they want what is best for their daughter. Gee, that seems to be universal.

The real question is how do YOU feel about her? Do you love her? Are you really prepared to take on all the obligations of truly loving someone? Yes, the emotional heartstrings of someone who loves you can be strong. But it makes no difference if you donít have the same feelings for her.

Iím not getting on you or trying to pin you down, its just your posting was just so sincere and so refreshing from all the other self centered postings (including my own). Obviously she has feelings for you, and her family respects you.

You stated that you would probably marry her someday but that you are in no rush. Well, after two years you should know. Either go to her father and ask for her hand in marriage, or bail out. Or as they say here, shit or get off the pot. In either case, you will be doing a serviced to her and yourself. I know enough to know that two years of novios is long enough.

I hope Iím not out of place here, I just am responding to your postings. I only wish the best for you and your novia.

Dickhead
05-21-07, 05:04
Good question.. .I've read it numerous times in a few articles. I wish I could find one for you, but I can't. I actually think "literacy" is exactly what the articles base it on. So... yes, I should have written Colombians are the most literate latin americans. But, I don't have the article to prove it. I guess I should not have written that, as even if I found an article stating it, I guess it could still be false. Maybe you have some statistics?

I did some research on literacy. This site mentions several other Latin American countries as having the highest literacy rates, including Argentina where I live:

http://portal.unesco.org/education/en/ev.php-URL_ID=8519&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html

This one gives specific literacy rates and gives Colombiaís as 90%, compared to for example Argentina and Cuba with 96% and Chile and Costa Rica with 95%:

http://www.overpopulation.com/faq/health/education/literacy/latin_america.html

ďWikipedia,Ē often scoffed at as a reliable source, quotes the less scoffed-at World Fact book in placing Colombia behind Uruguay, Argentina, Cuba, Guyana (which one might argue is not a Latin American country), Chile, and Costa Rica (in that order) in literacy rate.

This source places all of those countries plus Ecuador, Paraguay (which I have a hard time believing) and Mťxico above Colombia but is specifically the ďyouthĒ literacy rate:

http://hdr.undp.org/reports/global/2003/indicator/indic_275.html

This is not exhaustive research but I did not cherry-pick either; had I found a site that offered any support for the OPís assertion I would have included it. I have a degree in Latin American history and always had read, been taught, been given the impression, or whatever, that Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay had the highest literacy rates. Costa Rica was normally mentioned as having the highest literacy rate in Central America. I remember learning that in Central America, as opposed to South America, the gender disparity was a lot greater, meaning that a higher percentage of women (than men) were illiterate. In the United States, a much higher percentage of men than women are functionally illiterate, I believe.

I really could not find a good definition of literacy on any of the sites I mentioned. A common definition in academia is the ability to read and understand a major metropolitan daily newspaper, not like the freakiní New York Times but more like the Denver Post or something like that. You would assume that different definitions might account for different rankings but in any case I don't think Colombia comes out on top no matter what.

And although I choose to live in Argentina, I still think Colombiano Gabriel GarcŪa MŠrquez is a lot more interesting writer than Argentinean Jorge Luis Borges. Chilean Isabel Allende is pretty good too. But then again, GarcŪa Marquťz lives in Mťxico and has for most of his life so that tells you ...

OK, I have no idea what it tells you.

Dickhead
05-21-07, 05:32
Next I looked at educational levels. This site states that Colombia does not even have a legal guarantee of free primary education, and has a chart that compares it unfavorably to many other Latin American countries:

http://www.unesco.org/education/efa_report/zoom_regions_pdf/laamcari.pdf

The literacy rates given are consistent with my previous post. I still canít really find anything decent on median years of education but that is probably pretty meaningless since it does not factor in quality. The above site is interesting in that it examines expenditures on education as a percentage of GDP. I found some interesting stuff elsewhere about the ratio of military spending to educational spending but it was so depressing I decided not to post it.

I used to work for the US Postal Service with two self-described hillbillies, Weldon from Arkansas and Wilburn from Kentucky. They were always arguing about which state had the lower educational level. Finally Wilburn said to Weldon, "Let's do this scientifically. How many dummies you got?" So perhaps that is the best definition I have heard, but a bit hard to enumerate.

However in their discussion of which state had more poverty, I believe Wilburn was bested by Weldon. Wilburn said that when he was growing up, he was so poor that if he woke up on Christmas without a hard-on, he had nothing to play with for the rest of the day, to which Weldon replied that when he was growing up, he was so poor he had to jack off the dog just to feed the cat.

Hope that helps.

Member #4211
05-21-07, 14:18
I have a degree in Latin American history and always had read, been taught, been given the impression, or whatever, that Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay had the highest literacy rates.

Nor surprisingly, these are also the countries that received most of the European immigration between 1870 and 1960 (at least in terms of percentage to the whole population, since Mexico may have received also a lot but their native population more than outnumbered that of immigrants). Those immigrants were very adamant in sending their kids to University.

Overpopulation of young, unemployed professionals is now a pervasive aspect of Latin American societies, but it was just a characteristic of Argentina and Uruguay 20-30 years ago. During the 1970s, many Argentineans professionals aimed at working in Venezuela, since the shortage of doctors there nd the high salaries lured them.

Another "index" may be based on techological and scientific prowess. For instance, the only Latin American countries today able to develop and build a nuclear bomb are Brazil and Argentina. Another example is the number of Nobel Prizes related to chemistry and medicine (Argentina has 3, at least).

Andres

Bingooo
05-21-07, 14:31
Chicas om Disco in colombia.

http://rumbiaderos.com/farandula_kukara7.htm

Menteng
05-21-07, 15:54
Very, very interesting topic Dickhead cs, but ISG stands for International SEX Guide, not International Science Guide.

Jdfloresd
05-22-07, 21:29
Aussie Greg,

how can I get an accomodation at Medellin Mansion, I have tried by email and calls, no answer!

Regards,

Jdflores

RoadGlide
05-23-07, 07:59
Don't bother with the Mansion. Give Albert a call or send him a PM at VIP.

RG.

Escort King
05-23-07, 15:25
Aussie Greg,

how can I get an accomodation at Medellin Mansion, I have tried by email and calls, no answer!

Regards,

Jdflores

Use the 312 number at the bottom of the website but call during the day... the office closes around 5pm.... but is open by 8 am EST

BlackSultan
05-24-07, 03:10
Don't bother with the Mansion. Give Albert a call or send him a PM at VIP.

RG.

Screw that, bother with the Mansion and have some fun.

Durango
05-24-07, 08:33
Aussie Greg,

how can I get an accomodation at Medellin Mansion, I have tried by email and calls, no answer!

Regards,

JdfloresI got a room at the VIP no problem. I'll be there until Tuesday May 30th.

Aussie Greg
05-24-07, 14:03
Jd,

E-mail Lina on info@medellinmansion.com

Aussie G.



Aussie Greg,

how can I get an accomodation at Medellin Mansion, I have tried by email and calls, no answer!

Regards,

Jdflores

Sparkchaser69
05-24-07, 15:59
Screw that, bother with the Mansion and have some fun.

The Mansion rules in Medellin!!!

Greg,
My buddy Ziggy hooked up with Valentina while he was there. Lucky bastard. I miss that hottie!!!!!! Hope your smacking that ass correctly :)

Sparky

Aussie Greg
05-24-07, 18:43
Sparkie,

Have a look at the lattest picīs mate.

Aussie G



The Mansion rules in Medellin!!!

Greg,
My buddy Ziggy hooked up with Valentina while he was there. Lucky bastard. I miss that hottie!!!!!! Hope your smacking that ass correctly :)

Sparky

Jchipper
05-25-07, 00:58
Howdy guys,

Chipper is in Peru and its not the same as my beloved Colombia, Casas hard to find, Banos and Turcos action is iffy at best, one only HJS, The others full service will run you about 90 to a 150 bucks, they like the dollar here and it has damaged the price advantage for xchanges, onto Santiago Chile on Tuesday then to Buenos Aires, any info would be appreciated, PM me if you would be so kind, Gringos don't fuck up Mi Colombia till I return, Luv and peace to all you Mongers.

Jchipper

Escort King
05-25-07, 03:28
Howdy guys,

Chipper is in Peru and its not the same as my beloved Colombia, Casas hard to find, Banos and Turcos action is iffy at best, one only HJS, The others full service will run you about 90 to a 150 bucks, they like the dollar here and it has damaged the price advantage for xchanges, onto Santiago Chile on Tuesday then to Buenos Aires, any info would be appreciated, PM me if you would be so kind, Gringos don't fuck up Mi Colombia till I return, Luv and peace to all you Mongers.

Jchipper
Have a great trip mate and I will be spending more time with you on my next visit to Col.

Poor But Horny
05-27-07, 18:19
Anyone got old or new photos/videos of Ana Maria (or whatever name she goes by at that moment in time)? Please post or email me.

Thanks,

FYI, here is 1 as a reference photo.

Fantasy
05-28-07, 07:03
Hey PBH, You didn't fall for her shananigans did you.

Dirtyguy
05-28-07, 22:48
Jd,

E-mail Lina on info@medellinmansion.com

Aussie G.Will be there next month, do you still offer that cutie airport pickups?, it's going to be a long day traveling and am gonna want to chill my first night.

Poor But Horny
05-29-07, 20:38
Hey PBH, You didn't fall for her shananigans did you.Not me, my father. I need to get some emails/photos (preferably current) of people who are with her or writing to her. I tried to show him a good time and leave it at the airport, but despite my warnings, I think he is falling for the BS. It was his first time to South America, and I think he was overwhelmed by the attention.

There is a 44 year age gap (+/-) and he should know better, but I need to give him a shot of reality.

So please, if anyone is with her in the next week or so or has been writing to her, I need evidence to wake him up.

If anyone is down there, have Albert call her. Or, PM me, I think I have her # stored in my phone.

BeersTerry
05-29-07, 23:28
He's in love. What ya gonna do ? Fight for your inheritance ?

Poor But Horny
05-30-07, 00:31
He's in love. What ya gonna do? Fight for your inheritance ?Inject him with a dose of reality. My inheritance is already gone.

UrbanWildlife
05-30-07, 03:04
You guys are a trip!. Barefoot Chap, where's the humour? Relax, take a deep breath, and exhale!. Don't take things so seriously my friend!

RoadGlide
05-30-07, 07:30
Not me, my father. I need to get some emails/photos (preferably current) of people who are with her or writing to her. I tried to show him a good time and leave it at the airport, but despite my warnings, I think he is falling for the BS. It was his first time to South America, and I think he was overwhelmed by the attention.

There is a 44 year age gap (+/-) and he should know better, but I need to give him a shot of reality.

So please, if anyone is with her in the next week or so or has been writing to her, I need evidence to wake him up.

If anyone is down there, have Albert call her. Or, PM me, I think I have her # stored in my phone.

You may want to contact Cubanut on this one. I think he posted photos of "Ana Maria" on this and other web sites starting in late 2004 or early in 2005.

This girl has some serious mileage on her back.

RG.

Chitown Shaker
05-30-07, 09:37
a lot of these Scandinavian women who like it dark, tend to be the girl of the white manīs wet dream, naturally blonde, naturally big titted with an open outlook on sex and few hangups.

so I suppose you can say there is some "justice" in the world, after all but I will also agree with what Latin Bound wrote about his buddy. Depending on the kind of gal he is chasing, heīs swimming against the current.

but then life isnīt fair, and never has been and never will be, right?

if you want to beayitch about more "discrimination", then bring up one of the biggest ones, HEIGHT, this is worldwide, but particularly true in Latin America and Colombia.

if you are under 5'9 as a male you are at a tremendous disadvantage versus someone say 6 foot tall, who would be considered "ideal".6 feet ideal? That is not very tall. 6'6 or 6'7 seems a bit more ideal. Pocket book can offset height in places like this. Interviewing for a job with a purposeful title, height helps more than it would say, Medellin.

Winner71
05-30-07, 10:32
Saw this gal at Mayorista tonight... 25k pesos + 12k pesos for the room. I passed on her for a 90 pound flaca. I'll post fotos next week.

Anyone have a new number for Alvero... I really wanted to get in touch with this Letice chica. Tried calling Alvero today and his phone is disconnected. Anyone know how to get in touch with him ... or even better get in touch with Letice?



Anyone got old or new photos/videos of Ana Maria (or whatever name she goes by at that moment in time)? Please post or email me.

Thanks,

FYI, here is 1 as a reference photo.

Aussie Greg
05-30-07, 14:41
I discuvered her and introuced her to the world and Cubanut years ago I think when she was 1?

Iīve got a computer full of picīs of her and some recent oneīs to, I hope she finds a good guy and stays of drugs !!

Aussie Greg

Aussie Greg
05-30-07, 14:42
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]I discuvered her and introuced her to the world and Cubanut years ago I think when she was 1? years of age.

Iīve got a computer full of picīs of her and some recent oneīs to, I hope she finds a good guy and stays of drugs !!

Aussie Greg

Acuerpado
05-30-07, 18:09
First off, i want to thank Scooby, Regulr Travlr, and SpiderMonkey for the info they gave me on medellŪn. Scooby's guide was indispensable.

Here's Sarita from Afrodita's. 30,000 pesos for 30 minutes. She's lacking tits but she makes up for it with a killer ass. We hung out a few times outside of her workplace. She claims to have spent some time at the Mansion and VIP, so i'm sure some of you guys know her well. Contact info is available.

If you're looking for a cheap hotel in the center i'd recommend the Hostal Odeůn at Calle 54 (Caracas) No. 49-38, just a half block off the Parque Bolivar. This is a great area to stay as there are many casas within walking distance. Single rooms are 25,000 per night and i never had any problems at any hour bringing 1 or 2 girls back to my room. Rooms are small but have hot water, cable tv, a stocked fridge, stereo, phone, and a fan.

Acuerpado
05-30-07, 18:35
Here are 3 photos of Lina and the card from the house where she works. Her contact info is available. The casa is run by an old seŮora out of her home. There were 3 other girls present when i went around 3 pm, none of which were doable. 60,000 for 60 minutes.

SpiderMonkey
05-30-07, 20:28
Nice pics and thanks for the info on this place I never heard of it.

Spider

Fantasy
05-31-07, 00:25
I have a shot of her tits full of Caliente cum. I don't want to post but I guess I could email it. Also my friend did her a few months ago with two other guys from his house. He is a fireman in Boston. They gave her the old "Triple Hose". I will see if they have a video for you.

MiamiHeatLuver
05-31-07, 00:26
I have a shot of her tits full of Caliente cum. I don't want to post but I guess I could email it. Also my friend did her a few months ago with two other guys from his house. He is a fireman in Boston. They gave her the old "Triple Hose". I will see if they have a video for you.

You should sell it, or open a website. lol

Tom 33
05-31-07, 00:41
If you're looking for a cheap hotel in the center i'd recommend the Hostal Odeůn at Calle 54 (Caracas) No. 49-38, just a half block off the Parque Bolivar. This is a great area to stay as there are many casas within walking distance. Single rooms are 25,000 per night and i never had any problems at any hour bringing 1 or 2 girls back to my room. Rooms are small but have hot water, cable tv, a stocked fridge, stereo, phone, and a fan.

If you are using Scooby's Guide, you are a newbie. Parque Bolivar is dangerous after dark. Any place north of the park is quite dangerous after dark. You have to be very careful in Centro especially after dark. Actually the only safe area is the pedestrian mall(Avenida Junin) south of the park up to Exito.

I would strongly suggest that newbies avoid Centro completely unless you have a local guide.

Escort King
05-31-07, 17:45
This has always been something I've been curious about... does anyone know how much does cocaine cost on the streets of Medellin? For example, a gram in the US will run approximately $80 - I'm figuring it would be much, much lower in Colombia, but how much lower exactly?

Wrong forum for that question

Rebel Monger
06-01-07, 01:47
Anyone got old or new photos/videos of Ana Maria (or whatever name she goes by at that moment in time)? Please post or email me.

Thanks,

FYI, here is 1 as a reference photo.That might be her real name.

BeersTerry
06-01-07, 22:48
Anybody else fall in love this week ? We need to liven up the board at their expense.

Poor But Horny
06-03-07, 05:11
Anybody else fall in love this week ? We need to liven up the board at their expense.My father is planning ANOTHER trip JUST to see her, and talked about sending her $ so she doesn't need to work. Like she doesn't do that with other old guys.

He is falling hook, line and sinker.

Please, someone down there, call her up, do her and take photos and post them (preferably with date stamp on it).

My father thinks with his dick, which would be okay if it has not cost him so much in the past.

Anyone else out there that you know of that is sending her money, or has sent her money?

I hear she is really good in bed, so it would certainly be worth doing the little bit of research and photography.

Malodr
06-03-07, 18:13
Anybody else fall in love this week ? We need to liven up the board at their expense.I just got back with my 2 buddies. We went thru 60 chicas in a week.

Malodr
06-03-07, 18:14
If you are using Scooby's Guide, you are a newbie. Parque Bolivar is dangerous after dark. Any place north of the park is quite dangerous after dark. You have to be very careful in Centro especially after dark. Actually the only safe area is the pedestrian mall(Avenida Junin) south of the park up to Exito.

I would strongly suggest that newbies avoid Centro completely unless you have a local guide.Get a taxi, cruise there BUT don't get out and keep your doors locked.

BeersTerry
06-03-07, 21:42
60 girls, 3 guys, 7 days ?

I was tired at 2 a day, but I did that for 2 weeks.

Malodr
06-03-07, 23:03
60 girls, 3 guys, 7 days ?

I was tired at 2 a day, but I did that for 2 weeks.We were going thru them 3 at a time then the next batch came in. Thank God for Cialis.

Col Bog 1
06-04-07, 00:11
Here are 3 photos of Lina and the card from the house where she works. Her contact info is available. The casa is run by an old seŮora out of her home. There were 3 other girls present when i went around 3 pm, none of which were doable. 60,000 for 60 minutes.Hi Acuerpado.

That Lina has the kind of body and smile I just love..

Hope I can find her next week.

Did she behaves good?

Did you ask for any extra like BBBJ or Anal?

Thanks for the information.

Col Bog 1
06-04-07, 00:26
Anyone got old or new photos/videos of Ana Maria (or whatever name she goes by at that moment in time)? Please post or email me.

Thanks,

FYI, here is 1 as a reference photo.Hi Poor But Horny.

Do you know where she works or how to find her?

I'll be in Medellin next week.

If she is like on the picture I'd be glad to help you.

Col Bog 1
06-04-07, 01:44
twice is better than once.

i arrived in medellin around 1:30 pm and went strait to my hotel.

after a quick shower, i left the hotel, jumped in a taxi and asked to go to kamasutra (calle 53 42-56).

i arrived around 3pm and climbed the stairs up to kamasutra.

when i got in, sebastian received me and proposed me to seat.

the normal room was curtained off and there was 2 other guys seated in the "lobby".

after a while, i passed my head thru the curtains and realised that there was another guy waiting for a service.

so i would be in fourth position.

i decided not to wait anymore and left kamasutra.

that was a good opportunity to test the neighbours: masajistas paisas (calle 53 42-56).

that place is only at 3 or 4 doors from the kamasutra entrance.

i ringed the bell and a short fat girl came to open the door.

i climbed the stairs and arrived in a large hall where a mamasan received me asking me to sit down.

then, the fat girl gave me the "menu". a list of the services they propose:

- 60 minutes for 40k

- 100 for 60 minutes and 2 girls

- 130 for 60 minutes an2 girls with lesbi show

after 5 minutes (i was getting bored), mamasan took me to another room and start the girls presentation.

they only had 4 girls, 3 coloured and one white (fat), 2 of the coloured girls were slim and very nice looking.

i choose the light coloured one, a girl named paola, with an incredible slim body, big lips, small tits, and a nice smile, and ask the mamasan to send her to me to have a small talk.

the mamasan told me that everything was in the "menu" i saw before.

i had to insist 3 times for having paola seated with me!

thatís very strange in colombia where customers are king.

after a few minutes talk to establish the relation, i ask her for my favourite games:

- daty => yes

- bbbj => yes

- anal => no (too big, like always.)

she asked me 30k for the bbbj. thatís a lot if you compare it to the service (40k for 60 minutes), but itís little money for me, and i knew she would be pleased and would probably behave well.

so we went to the room, witch is very simple, with a thin but firm mattress on the floor, a chair and a private bathroom with very cold water.

we got naked and had my favourite games, daty & bbbj, i tried to see if she would let me rub my best friend with her pussy and ass, but no, so i got covered and start to screw in missionary, then doggy, . .

she behaves really well and i reached climax in a reasonable time.

we then talked a little bit, got dressed and i left.

i then walked back till the centre and walked around looking the street action. i saw some street hookers, but they were really scary.

****d (i think i saw a a 15 or 14 years old girl there! ), drugged addict, fat, well, nothing interesting.

streets were just amazingly crowded and the pedestrians were just more interesting than the hookers, especially after that nice time i had with paola.

i then went back to my hotel and went to a business super.

once back to my hotel, i was still feeling in good shape and decided then to have a look to miel and canela.

i arrived around 9:15pm, and they had still 6 girls and 4 guys.

2 of them were obviously foreigners.

i saw a new girl and had her seat next to me.

she was sweat and wanted to go with me, but suddenly i heared the 2 foreigners speak german.

i couldnít resist and start to talk with them in my poor german, but it was nice since i have not much chance to practice german since i leave in colombia.

they arrived in miel in canela after visiting loutron thanks to the yellow pages, so i told them that they should better look to isg.

unfortunately they had to go because they were leaving medellin on next day on an early flight.

so we said tchuss and i realised that my girl had left with some new guys!

too bad for me. .

they had only 2 available girls at that moment and it was already late (9:45) for miel y canela who close doors at 10 pm.

i walked out stopped a taxi and asked him to drive me to calle 58 50a-54 better known as casa de piedra o lindas chicas.

i arrived at the same time as 2 girls, we got in, they rushed to change and i wait some 5 minutes.

in the girlís waiting room, i recognize mary-luz with whom i had an excellent time on my last visit (see my report), but i was more feeling to try a new girl.

the mamasan presented then the 3 other available girls she had at the moment and 2 of them were just gorgeous.

i choose the smiling one a very skinny girl with long hairs, small tits and a very small belt.

her name was nataly and i had her seated with me to discuss about my favourite games.

she said yes to daty & bbbj but no to anal.

as she was so sweet and beautiful i decided to go.

she asked me 150 k cop!

i told her that i had paid 100 k few days ago with mary-luz and that this was just too much for me.

she didnít discussed more and said ok to 100k and 2 hours.

i had to pay the mamasan her expansive price for the room:

room for 2-3 hours: 70 k

condom: 10 k

a double whisky for nataly: 20 k

100 k for that, look like very expansive.

of course they are open 24hours a day, but still, this is 200 k more that 100 bucks! girls are gorgeous and it goes for 2 hours in a very nice room, but i wonder if iíll ever return?

now for the bad things, rooms are not all in perfect conditions and you can see the lack of maintenance with humidity, broken windows, .

but the worst and unacceptable thing is that they have no warm water in their bathroom and the water is just very cold.

we had a (very) short shower together and she washed my best friend and ass with cold water but a lot of soap and a very good warm hand.

at that time i was very hard and impatient to eat that nice pussy.

i entered daty and in no time passed to 69 bbbj.

she does that very good, her technique is. enjoyable, as she saw that i enjoy to be fingered, she did it with no problem.

after 5 minutes of pure heaven, i stopped her for not coming immediately and we start some french kisses, very deep and passionate.

i positioned myself to eat her pussy and ass and stat the daty.

she responded very well moving her pussy to maximize her pleasure.

she told me she reached climax, but who knows?

i then decided to try to rub my best friend on her pussy and ass, but she was reluctant and tried to escape, then she put me the condom and asked for action. we made all the classical positions and she always behaves very well.

my problem is always the same; the condom doesnít let me feel much of the action. after a good cow-girl ride, i was loosing stiffness for that bloody condom, so i took it out and asked for more bbbj.

after a good while, i took her to my side and start to rub my dick with her pussy. that time she didnít say no and in a question of minutes, she was the one moving to bbfs.

men, i was in heaven once more.

what can i say? as we all know, itís bad, dangerous, crazy, .

but itís just toooooooooooooo goooooooooood!

of course with such a treatment, i recovered stiffness, and reached an incredible climax after some minutes of intense action.

we were just both exhausted and breathless and had a small rest.

nataly is a good and smart girl, she is preparing herself for being a doctor assistant. she needs one more year to graduate.

meanwhile, she has to do that job to feed her 2 kids and pay the bills.

i would never have thought that she had 2 kids because her belly is just incredibly thin and flat.

she also told me that she was operated to never ever have kids again.

thatís not so common in colombia.

she told me she is 24 but i would give her 2 or 3 years less.

after that nice discussion, she showered (very quickly for the cold water), we got dressed and went downstairs.

unfortunately, she didn't want to let me take some pictures of her.

they called me a taxi meanwhile i was having a small talk with mary-luz who were just bored to death, playing with her cell.

she told me she had no customers today?

strangely she was still with the same working clothes as when i met her (and winner 71).

i returned with nataly waiting for my taxi, got a last french kiss and jumped in my taxi to return to my hotel.

two girls on the same day?

wouaou! thanks sidenafil, but yes, definitely twice is better than once.

cheers

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Almotu
06-04-07, 05:55
First off, i want to thank Scooby, Regulr Travlr, and SpiderMonkey for the info they gave me on medellŪn. Scooby's guide was indispensable.

Thanks for YOUR contributions. Sarita and Lina looks nice. Just my type. Kissing, caressing, GFE? Your pics of the business card and flyer were a nice touch.

I should be back in July, I will check these places out.

Latin Bound
06-04-07, 09:36
Hey PBH, You didn't fall for her shananigans did you.Where does this Ana hang about? I would love to find her. The pics to help out would be just icing on the cake.

Aussie Greg
06-04-07, 13:58
By popular demand, some picīs of The Anna Maria.

I have many more but she is my friend so Iīll keep them for her wedding day !!!!!

If you look back along way on my Thread you will find some better ones, regards.

Aussie Greg

Superboy1
06-04-07, 22:11
We were going thru them 3 at a time then the next batch came in. Thank God for Cialis.


What i like to know is what are you trying to prove by doing this? It must of cost you a s**t load.

Superboy

Fantasy
06-04-07, 22:34
Are You Out Of Breath Yet?

Fantasy
06-04-07, 22:40
I'll say Anna is your old friend. I can remember that pool party in 2005 when she was your "close friend". I hear now that she is a "Platinum Plus Member at Western Union.
Apparently she is telling about five guys that if you get me an apartment and some spending money, that she will stop working and be the Novia. I don't think I have ever heard of this before? or maybe I have.

Escort King
06-04-07, 22:43
I'll say Ana is your old friend. I can remember that pool party in 2005 when she was your "close friend". I hear now that she is a "Platinum Plus Member at Western Union.
Apparently she is telling about five guys that if you get me an apartment and some spending money, that she will stop working and be the Novia. I don't think I have ever heard of this before? or maybe I have.

I thought of working a phone room when I retire... get the girls to give me the guys numbers in the US etc... and then hire a good female closer... papi mi nino es malo (hey never said I was good at Spanish).... can you send me some pesos Western Union.... send it to the doctor - his name is Escort King

Aussie Greg
06-04-07, 23:41
Fantasy,

She was working at La Isla in 2002 when I met her there.

Aussie Greg.




I'll say Anna is your old friend. I can remember that pool party in 2005 when she was your "close friend". I hear now that she is a "Platinum Plus Member at Western Union.
Apparently she is telling about five guys that if you get me an apartment and some spending money, that she will stop working and be the Novia. I don't think I have ever heard of this before? or maybe I have.

Wet Nose
06-05-07, 05:10
Hey PBH,

Turn on your PMs and I'll tell you where to look for previous reports on Ana Maria.

While she may be great, it's just the same way with everything else...there's *always* someone else better, cuter, sweeter, sexier. Treasure the moment but move on... it's like walking in a rose garden, once you pull out the rose, it's never quite the same.

Thanks for the reports btw...just returned from VIP myself...stayed there for a week or so. Thinking of returning for Christmas but the exchange rate really has me taking a pause.

OldGringoBangs
06-05-07, 06:43
She works at Fos Dos. I had a fling with her at the Mansion last year. We spent 3 days together. After which She didn't ask me for a dime. I took good care of her and when I saw her on my last visit to Medellin she was more than glad to see me. All of the girls we are fortunate enough to meet at the Mansion (thank you Greg and Robert) are all about the plata. They unfortunately have very few oppertunities to make a decent living so they have little choice but to P4P. Don't begrudge them. Most of them are really sweet. Viva Medellin!

Kickboxer151
06-05-07, 17:44
Guys I'm just back from a 2 week trip in Medellin. An awesome place!

Had a great trip as always, however I really took notice of the increase in prices since the Peso to the Dollar has sharply declined over the last few months this has REALLY affected our (American) spending.

Last year in July it was about 2630 Pesos to the US Dollar! Now its 1,877.5 to the dollar!!! Thats nearly 30%!

Example:

A fellow American friend bought a bottle of Whisky at Mangos and it was 400,000 Pesos! In a country where 24,000 per day is the Minimum wage?

A friend went to a Hamburger Place (El Carrol) and 2 hamburgers and drinks was 35,000 pesos!

However, I have not seen the prices go up in regards to the ladies. The only place I have seen go up is Loutrons.

Maybe someone else has a different opinion. This is just my observation. Does anyone else have an insight or opinion on this issue?

Peace, KB151

MiamiHeatLuver
06-05-07, 18:00
Guys I'm just back from a 2 week trip in Medellin. An awesome place!

Had a great trip as always, however I really took notice of the increase in prices since the Peso to the Dollar has sharply declined over the last few months this has REALLY affected our (American) spending.

Last year in July it was about 2630 Pesos to the US Dollar! Now its 1,877.5 to the dollar!!! Thats nearly 30%!

Example:

A fellow American friend bought a bottle of Whisky at Mangos and it was 400,000 Pesos! In a country where 24,000 per day is the Minimum wage?

A friend went to a Hamburger Place (El Carrol) and 2 hamburgers and drinks was 35,000 pesos!

However, I have not seen the prices go up in regards to the ladies. The only place I have seen go up is Loutrons.

Maybe someone else has a different opinion. This is just my observation. Does anyone else have an insight or opinion on this issue?

Peace, KB151

Hey KB, Everybody knows MANGOS is a real tourist trap, I went thier one time never to return because the novelty soon wore off when I spent 120k for a bottle of rum that costs 20k, Two bottles later plus beer and 5k 6 ounce cokes i was in the hole 400k as well. I know they are trying to run a business but maybe raise the prices 300% but not 600%, ridiculous. I prefer the "33" nice area ALL locals and 60k for a BOX of rum and less stuffy, can be shady, but two each his own, this is not a place for shy inexperienced gringos, stay at mangos. NOW dont get me started on EL CORAL, I admit the hamburger was above average but again 2 bacon cheeseburgers later with 12oz cokes were like KB said 38k, thats what now? $20. IN COLOMBIA no less. I will not return there. Eating a babybeef at Lenos an Carbon is much better and a better deal with rice, salad and potato. The quick rising on the peso has detered me from purchasing another apartamento in Colombia, will just have to try and wait it out.

Tom 33
06-05-07, 19:10
My neighborhood restaurant charges 4000 pesos for lunch or dinner. It is good and filling.

I don't drink alcohol.

I live less than 10 minutes from Centro by cab. There are plenty of willing and hot chicas for 20K.

I live within walking distance of 3 massage parlors that charge 40 to 70K per hour.

I own my apartment and pay 90K pesos per month for administration. The electricity and gas are cheap because I don't have or need any heat or air conditioning.

If I am careful, I can stand a stronger peso.

Regulr Travlr
06-05-07, 19:10
Guys I'm just back from a 2 week trip in Medellin. An awesome place!

Had a great trip as always, however I really took notice of the increase in prices since the Peso to the Dollar has sharply declined over the last few months this has REALLY affected our (American) spending.

Last year in July it was about 2630 Pesos to the US Dollar! Now its 1,877.5 to the dollar!!! Thats nearly 30%!

Example:

A fellow American friend bought a bottle of Whisky at Mangos and it was 400,000 Pesos! In a country where 24,000 per day is the Minimum wage?

A friend went to a Hamburger Place (El Carrol) and 2 hamburgers and drinks was 35,000 pesos!

However, I have not seen the prices go up in regards to the ladies. The only place I have seen go up is Loutrons.

Maybe someone else has a different opinion. This is just my observation. Does anyone else have an insight or opinion on this issue?

Peace, KB151

I think this will have the greatest impact on the independents, especially those servicing the Mansion and VIP crowd. The market price was hovering around 150K with time to be negotiated. (PLEASE NO COMMENTS ON PRICING - THIS IS ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE PESO!) As I responded in a post in May about the incall girls we were seeing at VIP, the price ranged from 100K to 200K for a quickie, to a few hours to TLN with 150K as the median. While we may be able to justify $60 to $70 for a hot Colombiana, I don't think anyone wants to start incurring costs of $100 per chica, plus all the related travel costs.

The problem is getting the girls to understand this. I doubt that many will understand the exchange rate fluctuation and the strong peso. It will take a decline in demand for them to lower their prices.

More daytime trips to the mid level casas will be in order. Also more hunting in Mayorista for the gems. And as a last resort more time with the semi-novia.

Acuerpado
06-05-07, 19:21
i want to address the posters who have labeled the parque bolivar and centro area as a dangerous no-man's land after dark. in past visits to medellŪn i have spent a total of 14 nights at a hotel within a block of the parque bolivar. i've walked up and down the streets at all hours by myself and with girlfriends and i've never once had the slightest problem. i'm obviously gringo by appearance but i'm more muscular than any colombian i've seen and i speak fluent spanish. there is tons of vice on these streets- coke, weed, transvestites, glue-huffing **** prostitutes, etc. i can see how some foreigners wouldn't be comfortable here alone.

if you speak spanish, have plenty of experience in latin american cities, want a cheap hotel, and want to be close to the action, you still might want to consider the centro.

recently a girlfriend and i were cruising the bars in the de greiff/parque berrio/parque bolivar area around 1 am. we spotted this girl, alejandra, a 23 year old with 1 kid, leaving a bar where she works (contact info not available). my girlfriend approached her and she was up for coming up to my hotel.

when we got to my room we drank some pilsen, smoked a joint, and then alejandra rode my pole for 20 minutes while my girlfriend watched on the bed next to us. alejandra stayed for a total of 55 minutes and i gave her 30,000 when she exited.

Escort King
06-05-07, 19:27
My neighborhood restaurant charges 4000 pesos for lunch or dinner. It is good and filling.

I don't drink alcohol.

I live less than 10 minutes from Centro by cab. There are plenty of willing and hot chicas for 20K.

I live within walking distance of 3 massage parlors that charge 40 to 70K per hour.

I own my apartment and pay 90K pesos per month for administration. The electricity and gas are cheap because I don't have or need any heat or air conditioning.

If I am careful, I can stand a stronger peso.

Nice.. I know who I am talking to about retiring there.

Escort King
06-05-07, 19:30
Hey KB, Everybody knows MANGOS is a real tourist trap, I went thier one time never to return because the novelty soon wore off when I spent 120k for a bottle of rum that costs 20k, Two bottles later plus beer and 5k 6 ounce cokes i was in the hole 400k as well. I know they are trying to run a business but maybe raise the prices 300% but not 600%, ridiculous. I prefer the "33" nice area ALL locals and 60k for a BOX of rum and less stuffy, can be shady, but two each his own, this is not a place for shy inexperienced gringos, stay at mangos. NOW dont get me started on EL CORAL, I admit the hamburger was above average but again 2 bacon cheeseburgers later with 12oz cokes were like KB said 38k, thats what now? $20. IN COLOMBIA no less. I will not return there. Eating a babybeef at Lenos an Carbon is much better and a better deal with rice, salad and potato. The quick rising on the peso has detered me from purchasing another apartamento in Colombia, will just have to try and wait it out.

I remember eating in Centro and a few other places for a lot less.... $3-4 for lunch food and drink included.

MiamiHeatLuver
06-05-07, 19:40
I remember eating in Centro and a few other places for a lot less.... $3-4 for lunch food and drink included.

Yes or you can get (carne en palo) for mil pesos so what? Im just refering to the expensive malls(tesoro, olviedo) and tourist traps.

Hunter
06-05-07, 19:52
i want to address the posters who have labeled the parque bolivar and centro area as a dangerous no-man's land after dark. in past visits to medellŪn i have spent a total of 14 nights at a hotel within a block of the parque bolivar. i've walked up and down the streets at all hours by myself and with girlfriends and i've never once had the slightest problem. i'm obviously gringo by appearance but i'm more muscular than any colombian i've seen and i speak fluent spanish. there is tons of vice on these streets- coke, weed, transvestites, glue-huffing **** prostitutes, etc. i can see how some foreigners wouldn't be comfortable here alone.

if you speak spanish, have plenty of experience in latin american cities, want a cheap hotel, and want to be close to the action, you still might want to consider the centro.

recently a girlfriend and i were cruising the bars in the de greiff/parque berrio/parque bolivar area around 1 am. we spotted this girl, alejandra, a 23 year old with 1 kid, leaving a bar where she works (contact info not available). my girlfriend approached her and she was up for coming up to my hotel.

when we got to my room we drank some pilsen, smoked a joint, and then alejandra rode my pole for 20 minutes while my girlfriend watched on the bed next to us. alejandra stayed for a total of 55 minutes and i gave her 30,000 when she exited.the area is not that safe and you need to be well aware of what is going on.

as to foreigners telling me this, they haven't but the local colombians have warned me.

i have heard and read a few posts over the years of foreigners being mugged in this area of centro and around the back streets of the strip joints in san diego, several of them i know personnely.

hunter

Tom 33
06-05-07, 20:54
I want to address the posters who have labeled the Parque Bolivar and Centro area as a dangerous no-man's land after dark. In past visits to MedellŪn i have spent a total of 14 nights at a hotel within a block of the Parque Bolivar.
Danger depends upon which direction you go from Parque Bolivar. South is fine. North is not.

While you may not have problems here, there are many guys who speak no Spanish and think with their dicks. My warnings are for them.

I live in Medellin, and I am very careful in Centro.

Acuerpado
06-05-07, 21:36
This casa is located at Carrera 68 #43-16 and is a 4,000 peso taxi ride from the Centro at night. Tell the cab driver it's close to la Makro, which is some kind of department store. After you pass the Makro on your right, you'll take a left at the next intersection and Cassandra's will be on this block on your left.

Lilliana is the manager of Cassandra's. She's 30-40 years old and is no more than 4 feet tall. Lilliana is extremely accomodating to her client's wishes and not at all pushy. The 1st night she showed me the lineup out in the front hall but on subsequent nights when i stopped by i just walked into the chicas hangout room in the back, helped myself to beers in the fridge, and took my time in deciding on a chica. There are 4 girls who work the day shift here and 4-7 girls who work at nights until 3-4 am.

After visiting a score of cold, impersonal casas, i appreciated the friendly atmosphere here.

The lineup of girls is not the most impressive i've seen in MDE. I was with 4 girls from the night shift and they all provided excellent service except andrea, who was lazy and kept on saying it was too big.

Karen is the best- a 3-holer with a great attitude who's a little more intelligent than your average casa girl. She's a little older than you might expect and has worked in Miel y Canela, Luna Lunera, San Diego Show, and a bunch of other places. She is almost 6 ft. tall but her body is a little disappointing when the clothes come off. The price is 70,000 for 60 minutes but many times i'd stay in the room for almost 80 minutes. The girls and Lilliana aren't clock watchers.

The owner of Cassandra's has a sister who owns Luna Lunera. Lilliana took me there herself one night. This is a casa located in the back of a normal bar. However, the casa itself is set up like a bar. There were about 12 girls on hand around 11 pm. The talent here is a little better than Cassandra's and the prices are also higher.

Tom 33
06-05-07, 23:17
This casa is located at Carrera 68 #43-16 and is a 4,000 peso taxi ride from the Centro at night. Tell the cab driver it's close to la Makro, which is some kind of department store. After you pass the Makro on your right, you'll take a left at the next intersection and Cassandra's will be on this block on your left.

Lilliana is the manager of Cassandra's. She's 30-40 years old and is no more than 4 feet tall. Lilliana is extremely accomodating to her client's wishes and not at all pushy. The 1st night she showed me the lineup out in the front hall but on subsequent nights when i stopped by i just walked into the chicas hangout room in the back, helped myself to beers in the fridge, and took my time in deciding on a chica. There are 4 girls who work the day shift here and 4-7 girls who work at nights until 3-4 am.

After visiting a score of cold, impersonal casas, i appreciated the friendly atmosphere here.

The lineup of girls is not the most impressive i've seen in MDE. I was with 4 girls from the night shift and they all provided excellent service except andrea, who was lazy and kept on saying it was too big.

Karen is the best- a 3-holer with a great attitude who's a little more intelligent than your average casa girl. She's a little older than you might expect and has worked in Miel y Canela, Luna Lunera, San Diego Show, and a bunch of other places. She is almost 6 ft. tall but her body is a little disappointing when the clothes come off. The price is 70,000 for 60 minutes but many times i'd stay in the room for almost 80 minutes. The girls and Lilliana aren't clock watchers.

The owner of Cassandra's has a sister who owns Luna Lunera. Lilliana took me there herself one night. This is a casa located in the back of a normal bar. However, the casa itself is set up like a bar. There were about 12 girls on hand around 11 pm. The talent here is a little better than Cassandra's and the prices are also higher.
I believe that the correct address is Carrera 68A. Carrera 68 is one block over. Otherwise the directions are correct.

When I was there about a month ago, I was told that there were 3 girls during the day and 5 at night.

Makro is like a warehouse store with groceries and a lot of other non-grocery items. I got a great price on a 50-kilo bag of rice there. A one or two pound bag of rice is a very much appreciated gift.

Malodr
06-06-07, 01:21
60 girls, 3 guys, 7 days ?

I was tired at 2 a day, but I did that for 2 weeks.We were there 6 days. I was dead tired.

Malodr
06-06-07, 01:22
Danger depends upon which direction you go from Parque Bolivar. South is fine. North is not.

While you may not have problems here, there are many guys who speak no Spanish and think with their dicks. My warnings are for them.

I live in Medellin, and I am very careful in Centro.We toured it in a taxi. No way were we getting out.

Malodr
06-06-07, 01:24
What i like to know is what are you trying to prove by doing this? It must of cost you a s**t load.

SuperboyWe had calias and it cost between 60,000 and 100,000 an hour.

Malodr
06-06-07, 01:28
Yes or you can get (carne en palo) for mil pesos so what? Im just refering to the expensive malls(tesoro, olviedo) and tourist traps.We ate at the mall daily. It was about 25,000 a meal or $13.

Kickboxer151
06-06-07, 02:19
Hey KB, Everybody knows MANGOS is a real tourist trap, I went thier one time never to return because the novelty soon wore off when I spent 120k for a bottle of rum that costs 20k, Two bottles later plus beer and 5k 6 ounce cokes i was in the hole 400k as well. I know they are trying to run a business but maybe raise the prices 300% but not 600%, ridiculous. I prefer the "33" nice area ALL locals and 60k for a BOX of rum and less stuffy, can be shady, but two each his own, this is not a place for shy inexperienced gringos, stay at mangos. NOW dont get me started on EL CORAL, I admit the hamburger was above average but again 2 bacon cheeseburgers later with 12oz cokes were like KB said 38k, thats what now? $20. IN COLOMBIA no less. I will not return there. Eating a babybeef at Lenos an Carbon is much better and a better deal with rice, salad and potato. The quick rising on the peso has detered me from purchasing another apartamento in Colombia, will just have to try and wait it out.

Scheesh my biggest fear is that Medellin looks to be on its way of becoming another Tijuana!! Where the Mexicans just look at us as a buck and its VERY corrupt to include the Police as the biggest offenders of hasseling Americans and foreigners!

KB151

Durango
06-06-07, 05:16
Just got back from Medellin. Stayed at the VIP and met up with KB151 and had a blast. Visited some casas with KB151 and another VIP guest. Had a blast and can't wait to go back. Follow my post. 100's of pics coming soon that I will post in several different threads and all pics in the Photo Gallery, where they belong. If in doubt about Medellin, let me know and I can answer any newbies questions how to "PARTY LIKE A ROCKSTAR", regardless of what you look like and who you are. Many thanks go out to Albert and Kevin at the VIP. They've got THE place to stay if you want to double-dip with pros and non-pros.

Col Bog 1
06-07-07, 04:05
She works at Fos Dos. I had a fling with her at the Mansion last year. We spent 3 days together. After which She didn't ask me for a dime. I took good care of her and when I saw her on my last visit to Medellin she was more than glad to see me.Hi Poor but Horny & Arteworks1

As I wrote last week, I went tonight to Fase II to look for Ana Maria.

Unfortunately, nobody knows (Iíve asked 2 waiters) an Ana Maria in Fase II.

One of the waiter told me that the girls change their names very often.

Iíve looked carefully at all the present girl in and out of Fase II, and no one was like on the 2 pictures Iíve seen.

Sorry

Almotu
06-07-07, 15:02
After visiting a score of cold, impersonal casas, i appreciated the friendly atmosphere here.Just curious which casas you are speaking of? Blue Room?
Karen is the best- a 3-holer with a great attitude who's a little more intelligent than your average casa girl.Karen looks like a sweetheart. Was she in the daytime lineup or at night?
The owner of Cassandra's has a sister who owns Luna Lunera.Thanks for your report. I will check them out when I get to MDE this July.:)

Almotu
06-07-07, 15:17
Recently a girlfriend and i were cruising the bars in the De Greiff/Parque Berrio/Parque Bolivar area around 1 am. We spotted this girl, Alejandra, a 23 year old with 1 kid, leaving a bar where she works (contact info not available). My girlfriend approached her and she was up for coming up to my hotel... Alejandra rode my pole for 20 minutes while my girlfriend watched on the bed next to us. Alejandra stayed for a total of 55 minutes and i gave her 30,000 when she exited.You are my new hero :D Very nice and having a GF help you pickup dates is really great. Just curious how old are you ... must be a handsome, fit ladies man?:cool:Keep the reports coming. Thanks.BTW, which hotel in that area did you stay at?

Col Bog 1
06-07-07, 15:52
As I liked the Linaís Picture posted by Acuerpado, I decided to try that new place (Carrera 47 56-34) and try Lina.

I left my hotel around 4:30 pm and it was rush hour.

Took us more than 30 minutes to arrive there.

Finally he left me in front of the door, and I rang the bell.

A middle age girl came to open the door and let me in.

There were 4 women inside:

-The door keeper (not working even if she must have been a cute 20 years ago)

-The Mamasan, a lady in her late 50s

-2 girls

One of the girls, not my type, was taking care of the Mamasanís feet.

The other one was not bad, but Lina was not there.

I asked for her and they hardly remembered her?

They remember that a gringo once took that girl to his hotel, but she was not a regular worker of that place.

Is that true? Iíll probably never know.

The other Girl came and sat with me. Her name was Paola and she was probably other 25 or on her early 30ís, but she was very thin, smiled a lot, had a beautiful Paisaís accent, long hair and grey eyes.

Her breast was nice and small, and her belt quite thin.

We talked a little bit and she told me that she was studying on Saturday and working in that Casa for the rest of her time.

That casa remains opened till 2 to 3 am.

After a while, we discussed technique:

BBBJ Yes

DATY Yes

Anal No

50K for 60 minutes

We then went to the room, a small one with a good bed (firm) but no window and just next door to the waiting room, so you hear everything going on and, of course, they can hear just the same.

But Iím use to that "proximity" and donít care anymore.

We got naked and enter into action immediately with a nice 69 BBBJ.

I had to explain her how to blow me, and how to make a good HJ.

Paola is very concern to please her customers, she really tries very hard. After a very long moment, I tried to get close to her to rub my dick on her pussy, but she wouldnít let me get close.

So I had to let her cover me and start the bang session.

Once again, she gives herself completely and we made all the classical positions. But after 10 or 15 minutes she was so dry that I could hardly penetrate anymore. Unfortunately she had no lub.

So I took the condom out and asked for more BBBJ.

She did it quite good, but I couldnít come.

After a very long time, I stopped her and as the hour was almost gone, I decided to quit.

Once I had my shorts, I realizes that I wouldnít be able to walk as I was still very hard.

I asked her one more try and concentrate.

After 5 more minutes I reached climax at last!

Paola was very satisfied as she worried about what was happening.

She told me that most of her customers come for a quick shot.

When we exit the room, The Mamasan asked me to pay her 20 K for the room.

I told her that this was not part of the deal and that Paola had told me that it would cost me 50 and didnít say a word on the cost of the room. .

After a 2 minutes talk, I decided to pay the 20K.

Iíll probably never return to that place.

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Acuerpado
06-07-07, 15:54
I went by Geishas y punto com on a weekday around 2 pm. They were closed. I'm unsure if this was a temporary closure.

A girlfriend took me to Miel y Canela on a saturday night around 10. There were only 3 girls! The owner said most of the girls had left to go to some party. I chose Maria Paola, a real cutie. She's short and brown-skinned with streaks of blonde in her brown hair. If my memory is correct, i paid 50,000 for 35 minutes or so. The service was ok, no bbbj, no photos (god damn!). The upstairs bedrooms are ok but the one shower i saw had no warm water.
Afterwards, i had a beer or 2 with the owner, who's a fairly attractive though plump lady in her 30s.

There appear to be 2 types of bars in the De Greiff/Parque Berrio/Parque Bolivar area. The first type is like El Faro Bar. Street girls walking in and out continuously looking for guys. These girls will want to take you to a nearby hotel.

The 2nd type is a little more common. These bars look like discos but are filled with tables and chairs and a multitude of chicas affiliated with the bar sit around with a dumb look on their face. Most bars have no rooms and you have to pay the bar a salida to leave with a chica. Prices can be cheap in the bars that do have rooms. I gave the chicas below 10,000 for her and 10,000 for the tiny room for 30 minutes. I noticed a really bad attitude with some, though not all of these bar girls. One night i motioned for one to come over to my table and she inexplicably ignored me.

The majority of the street girls could be attractive if they lost 20 pounds or so. I walked by El Faro one morning around 11 and saw a truly stunning, bubble butt chica but passed as i knew i'd be back a little later. I never saw her again and i never ended up being with any of these street chicas. A lot of these girls are reluctant to come back to your hotel, even if its only a 10 minute walk, and may ask for more $.

Regulr Travlr
06-07-07, 19:48
Nice going Acuerpado

I like Miel y Camela, just have to hit it at the right time. Shortly after 2 in the afternoon is good as some new girls come in. They are fresh. You can also make arrangements for them to stop by your place in the morning before work.

Did you stop in the place under Hotel De Greiff, Conejitos? It is a chica bar with on site capablities I believe. But we pulled a bunch of chicas from there for a party at the VIP. They were concerned going that far at first. but it helped that we had so many of them. Good service at reasonable prices.

I have to thank Cubanut for recommending that place. It gets going pretty early. Like around 6 or 7.

BTW - Cubanut hasn't posted in awhile. Hope everything is well.

Trick Williams
06-07-07, 21:19
Nice pics Acuerpado.

Almotu
06-07-07, 22:06
I am curious how good looking the chicas are from that DeGreiff area. Do you have photos of the girls from Conejitos? How many mongers were in your group? . . . and of course, the cost for TLN?
Much appreciated:cool:

Col Bog 1
06-08-07, 01:16
This morning I had a cancelled business meeting.

I didnít loose time and decided to look for my favourite activity.

But where can you go around 11 am?

I decided to try my luck on Carrera 45 between Calle 56 and 58. Theses few blocks are quite good because you can visit 5 casas in a very short time (Geishaís Car 43 56-47, New Life Cal 56 43-39, Bell Suite Car 45 56-45, Aiffe Car 45 58-69 and Sexi Car 45 57-55).

I gave my taxi the Aiffe address and it took us 25 minutes and 6000 Cop from the Poblado.

I rang the bell and a man in his 40ís opened the door. I entered in a small reception place with a (used) sofa and armchairs.

I sat and asked to see the girls.

They had 8 girls present that morning, 2 of them were really of my taste.

I asked first to speak with the tallest one, a white girl (canít remember her name), and after a short talk, I asked her for my favourite actions:

DATY: No!

I think that it is the very first time that a girl says No to DATY out of a room!

I was really amazed but I immediately said No Thanks and asked for the other Girl: Vanessa.

She came, very nice little doll, and sat with me. After the presentations I asked once more for my favourites activities:

DATY: Yes, no problem

BBBJ: No. I tried to insist a little bit to see if she would accept with extra fee, but NO, no way.

So I stood up and left Aiffe, but these 2 girls were really nice to me, thatís life.

Nearest place was Sexi, only at one block.

I rang the bell, they opened with a sophisticated string coming from 2nd floor.

Once in the place, I sat on a sofa and the Mamasan started the show.

I saw 10 girls, Iíd say that the global quality was a little bit under the Aiffe but They also had 2 cutties of my taste.

One was an astounding black girl, Mitchel, with a perfect face and a very tiny belt.

I immediately knew that I wanted her, even though she had very short legs.

I called her, but the Mamasan was reluctant to let us speak and I had to insist, 2 minutes later, she came back and stood with us 2 minutes to try to catch our conversation.

But well, between the Mamasan visits I was able to ask for my special things:

DATY: Yes

BBBJ: after a difficult talk she asked for 30K and I said ok

Anal: No

I paid 40K for 60 minutes to the Mamasan and we went into the room where Mitchell asked for her 30 K immediately.

She was having a strange behaviour though and she soon told me that she was a totally new girl who had started this morning and that I was her first customer ever!

I donít know if she plays a role, but she really looked like totally lost and didnít know how to start.

I was worried as these girls normally donít know how to please their customers and have problems to accept new things. But we are in Medellin, Colombia, the land of enchantment with a strong service attitude.

Mitchel would show me that all those things are true!

Now a little paragraph on the Sexiís rooms, they are insides rooms, means they have no window, the light depend on a poor lonesome light.

They also have 3 doors, one from the precedent room, one for the corridor and the last one to the next room. All the doors donít close well. And anybody who would walk in the corridor and stop in front of the door would hear everything as the door is almost 5 inches (12 centimetres) above the floor, the door doesnít close well as the wood was twisted and left a good centimetre (1/2 an inch) view in the room. I donít pay too much attention to that, but itís good to know it.

The mattress was ok (hard), I havenít seen the bathroom neither as I had had a shower less than an hour before.

As Mitchel didnít know how to start, I put her on her back and we start with a nice BBBJ 69.

She did it ok, very smooth but good especially after I explained her the best place to concentrate her action.

After that, I gave her a DATY and tried to finger her ass, but she wouldnít accept that and was also, at the beginning reluctant, to DATO.

After a good while in DATY position, I came back to 69 and went back to DATY when she almost made me come.

When I felt better, I passed in Missionary and she left me rub my best friend on her pussy.

I then put the head at the heavenís gate and she told me that we must use Condom. I kept playing around moving and rubbing my dick on her lips.

After 4 or 5 intents to gently push my dick in the heavenís door, she told me that it would cost me much money to do this.

After a short discussion, we agreed for 30 K and I was, at last, admitted in heavenís door for a perfect BBFS.

But I was so exited that I couldnít stand very long and reached climax (yes, outside) in only a few minutes.

She then cleaned everything and lay down with me for a 5 minutes relax.

She would accept "light" French kisses and told me that her first experience had gone very well.

She used to work in a hotel in the Poblado but had to quit for bad relations with other workers?

She has a kid and is willing to study to go back to normal life.

I asked for pictures but she didnít want.

As the hour was gone and I had some business plans I left Mitchel and went back in Taxi to my hotel.

Cheers

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Regulr Travlr
06-08-07, 13:04
I am curious how good looking the chicas are from that DeGreiff area. Do you have photos of the girls from Conejitos? How many mongers were in your group? . . . and of course, the cost for TLN?
Much appreciated:cool:

We went there back in March, so many brain cells have died since then. Take a look at the pics in VIP section from around then. Spider and I have pics of the girls up. The are not 9's or 10's but from what I remember they were fun, good service and certainly not bad looking. The one's Bono took, who grabbed two and ran out, were especially good.

The prices were very reasonable but I can not remember specifics. The would not do TLN. We kept them a few hours, and went back out as it was still early. A nice early evening diversion. '

Just go in, have a couple of cheap cervezas and chat up a few.

Sparkchaser69
06-08-07, 14:40
She works at Fos Dos. I had a fling with her at the Mansion last year. We spent 3 days together. After which She didn't ask me for a dime. I took good care of her and when I saw her on my last visit to Medellin she was more than glad to see me. All of the girls we are fortunate enough to meet at the Mansion (thank you Greg and Robert) are all about the plata. They unfortunately have very few oppertunities to make a decent living so they have little choice but to P4P. Don't begrudge them. Most of them are really sweet. Viva Medellin!

I think thats her M.O. I was with her for 2 1/2 days and took her clothes shopping once, paid for all the partying and drinking and gave her a $200.00 I-Pod and no plata. She was very happy! Fun girl to try at least once, NOT camera shy and loves toys ;)

Disfruta mucho, Sparky

Latin Bound
06-09-07, 12:19
Leaving for Medellin today until the 15th. Anyone would like to hook up to party together?

Malodr
06-10-07, 14:39
A lot of these girls are reluctant to come back to your hotel, even if its only a 10 minute walk, and may ask for more $.We took about 5 Majorista chicas back to the Mansion over 6 nights. They were happy with 60,000 each time.

Superboy1
06-10-07, 22:41
Someone tell me something. This has happean afew times on my trips to Medellin(Mansion). let me give you one example.
I saw this girl i really liked, she went off with this old guy in his 60/70s, i ask him after how much she ask , the answer was 200.000, which in my mind is alot. well a couple of days later i saw her again,and got chatting with her, and then ask her how much to go with her,she said 250.000 then 200.000.
I found that alittle insulting. here i am nice looking guy in my 20s blonde hair blue eyes,alot of girls jump at the chance to be with me.but yet some girls ask for the same money from me that they ask from the old guys,WHY??

Poor But Horny
06-10-07, 22:51
Hi Poor But Horny.

Do you know where she works or how to find her?

I'll be in Medellin next week.

If she is like on the picture I'd be glad to help you.Albert/Maestro should have her number. I have it too, if I can figure out how to PM.

Or hang out at Western Union. She is probably there on a daily basis collecting from various idiots (including my father, who sent her money). Geez!

Bnlee2
06-10-07, 23:01
Someone tell me something. This has happean afew times on my trips to Medellin(Mansion). let me give you one example.
I saw this girl i really liked, she went off with this old guy in his 60/70s, i ask him after how much she ask , the answer was 200.000, which in my mind is alot. well a couple of days later i saw her again,and got chatting with her, and then ask her how much to go with her,she said 250.000 then 200.000.
I found that alittle insulting. here i am nice looking guy in my 20s blonde hair blue eyes,alot of girls jump at the chance to be with me.but yet some girls ask for the same money from me that they ask from the old guys,WHY??

superboy

Just think about it. It is less work for her to be with the old guy. so she is getting a lot more, and he probably have a cuter wallet/billfold than you. As for you, she needs to work harder and spend more time, and your net worth is probably way less than the old guy. Nothing personal but just think about it. For the WG, this is a job, it is better to earn more and work less. btw, the old guy probably is a better tipper too.

just my pov.

cheers...

Poor But Horny
06-10-07, 23:23
Someone tell me something. This has happean afew times on my trips to Medellin(Mansion). let me give you one example.

I saw this girl i really liked, she went off with this old guy in his 60/70s, i ask him after how much she ask , the answer was 200.000, which in my mind is alot. well a couple of days later i saw her again,and got chatting with her, and then ask her how much to go with her,she said 250.000 then 200.000.

I found that alittle insulting. here i am nice looking guy in my 20s blonde hair blue eyes,alot of girls jump at the chance to be with me.but yet some girls ask for the same money from me that they ask from the old guys,WHY??I think it has less to do with age and more of supply and demand. If the old guy (or any guy) is tipping her generously, she is going to ask for more on the next one. I had one ask for 400,000 back in December. I had been laid 3 times that day so I was in a good bargaining position. She wouldn't go lower than 250,000, so I just called it a night with the 3 I had (ranging from 50,000 - 60,000 each).

Older guys don't mind throwing their money around for some good trim. What else are they going to spend it on, hip replacements? Gotta throw out the hip first and enjoy it.

I think the problem is US. We (any age) go down and spend the money they ask. Well, I negotiate down, which is tough to do with a stiffy. You almost have to have a union/strike mentality. If these girls want to go to VIP and the Mansion (and Face Dos, etc), we need to stick together and limit what we will pay. Otherwise, they just ask for more and more.

What we need to do (and again, I have DONE it) is to negotiate a lower price, and if they say no, pay for the taxi ride back without doing them and call another one. One girl saw I was not bluffing, and agreed to the lower price.

Ricker
06-10-07, 23:44
Someone tell me something. This has happean afew times on my trips to Medellin(Mansion). let me give you one example.
I saw this girl i really liked, she went off with this old guy in his 60/70s, i ask him after how much she ask , the answer was 200.000, which in my mind is alot. well a couple of days later i saw her again,and got chatting with her, and then ask her how much to go with her,she said 250.000 then 200.000.
I found that alittle insulting. here i am nice looking guy in my 20s blonde hair blue eyes,alot of girls jump at the chance to be with me.but yet some girls ask for the same money from me that they ask from the old guys,WHY??

UNO: She's a hooker looking for cash not superboy

DOS: Maybe you think you're hot, but she doesn't

TRES: See numero UNO

Not all chicas think the same, obviously, some may even prefer the older guy over the whipper-snapper. Youre not in Piccadilly Circus amigo ... :)

Relax and move on, there's many a paisita out there.

MiamiHeatLuver
06-10-07, 23:58
Someone tell me something. This has happean afew times on my trips to Medellin(Mansion). let me give you one example.
I saw this girl i really liked, she went off with this old guy in his 60/70s, i ask him after how much she ask , the answer was 200.000, which in my mind is alot. well a couple of days later i saw her again,and got chatting with her, and then ask her how much to go with her,she said 250.000 then 200.000.
I found that alittle insulting. here i am nice looking guy in my 20s blonde hair blue eyes,alot of girls jump at the chance to be with me.but yet some girls ask for the same money from me that they ask from the old guys,WHY??

Maybe you have a bad personality and she wasnt feeling you? Even though its strictly about the peso, some of these girls pros/semi-pros like to chat and go through the routine, so they dont feel so puta.

Tbird
06-11-07, 00:09
Maybe you have a bad personality and she wasnt feeling you? Even though its strictly about the peso, some of these girls pros/semi-pros like to chat and go through the routine, so they dont feel so puta.

many of these girls are semi-pros, only do this occasionally, and like a degree of normality. Frankly, so do I.

Trust me, it is a better experience if the chica is having fun as well.

Cubanut
06-11-07, 06:12
This has happened a few times on my trips to Medellin(Mansion).
I saw this girl I really liked, she went off with this old guy in his 60/70s, I ask him after how much she ask , the answer was 200.000, which in my mind is a lot. well a couple of days later I saw her again,and got chatting with her, and then ask her how much to go with her,she said 250.000 then 200.000.
I found that a little insulting. here I am nice looking guy in my 20s blond hair blue eyes, a lot of girls jump at the chance to be with me.but yet some girls ask for the same money from me that they ask from the old guys, WHY??

Superboy11,

Right off the bat, you re asking a working Mansion girl "How Much" which leaves the door wide open to higher pricing. I know you are a good looking gent but your Spanish communications are lacking. Like Ricker has said in his post below, the girls are looking for money. What they need it for and how much they need is not always a pleasant topic to "chit chat" about.

Out of curiosity, how much do you feel the girl should ask for her time so as to it not being an insult to you and your good looks?

I really don't think the girls feel they are gouging or over pricing themselves to gringos since most gringos at the Mansion pay what they ask for. Therefore, why should a girl lower her price for her time to one gringo (especially if she is in demand) when another will give her what she wants.

Now, Superboy11, I have seen you dating/taking out Mansion girls while off the work clock for dinner, dancing etc. I would guess that not all charge you for their lovemaking time afterwards, or do they? Also, many of the girls have boyfriends (even though they say they don't) so they are not looking for a gringo relationship and therefore see no reason to given preferential pricing to "good looking gringos".

Overall I'm still more than disappointed that the Mansion girls continue to be paid the higher pricing. I've said this before that $100,000 for ST is my self imposed limit and I pass on those girls who will not come down. Those who do take the lower amount don't do so because of my good looks (LOL) but instead because I communicate with them the profitable method of getting laid/paid early and often.

IMHO, I like the Medellin Paisa but I tire of Mansion girls quickly. This is why I frequent the casas, strip clubs streetwalkers etc. Furthermore I have taken to enjoying the charms and sweetness and lower pricing of Cali girls.

For example and viewing pleasure, I just got back from Cali a few days ago which Ricker can attest to (LOL, inside humor guys). These Cali girls not only gave me total bareback and simulated GFE but also were not out to break the bank. Believe me or not but none of these girls were over $30,000 to $37,000 cop for an unrushed hour of fun. On top of this EACH one asked me if I was up for taking them out for drinks and dancing on their day(s) off. A couple of which I did take them up on and later did not pay for all night stays.


Cheers Gents, Enjoy Life and Women,


Cubanut

Almotu
06-11-07, 07:15
Your comments & photos makes me want to travel to Cali. Would you say Cali has the same level of 'ease of use' as Medellin? I am under the stereotypical impression that Cali is still more dangerous for travelling Americans than Medellin.

Carrib
06-11-07, 07:37
my goodness!!....need to do a cali trip. your pics are always appreciated. please pm some info.....where?

superboy..wassup dude? uk was a blast---hey man learn some espanol (myself included :). don't worry ive been quoted 700k for an all nighter...lol!!!!!!!! i laughed her off.. there was another time when this semi cute blonde was hanging around the mansion i told her i'd take her up for 80k but she wouldn budge, so she just sat there and left empty handed. yes i have paid 150k as well but negotiated more time than the hour. my logic? i can go to loutron and pay less and they never watch the clock. the last loutron babe came by the mansion (off work time) for a few hours for 100k and i think i gave an extra 20k for the taxi.

some of these girls may get ridiculed by their peers for giving it up for free..especially when there is so much money to be made. remember 250k pesos is alot of money in colombia..

Aussie Greg
06-11-07, 15:27
Mansion girls 80,000p, I never pay more than 100,000p, yes they can ask for 200,000p - 250,000p, its the girls situation.

In fact overall the price that a girl asks for at the Mansion has gone down.

A.G.

Ricker
06-11-07, 18:37
.... I just got back from Cali a few days ago which Ricker can attest to (LOL, inside humor guys). These Cali girls not only gave me total bareback and simulated GFE but also were not out to break the bank. Believe me or not but none of these girls were over $30,000 to $37,000 cop for an unrushed hour of fun. On top of this EACH one asked me if I was up for taking them out for drinks and dancing on their day(s) off. A couple of which I did take them up on and later did not pay for all night stays.


Cheers Gents, Enjoy Life and Women,


Cubanut

Hey Cuba, amigo mio ... was nice to see you the other day ... a total surprise though. Let me know when you'll be in Cali again, I wish I would have known earlier.

Anyway, I agree with you about the Medellin / Cali chicas in general.

Cali will never have the ambience and beauty of Medellin. Medellin, the city has a charm about it. The weather is much nicer than Cali, the city itself is much nicer, more places and things to do apart from mongering.
More places to visit and things to do with chicas on dates in Medellin too.
Cali for sure is more dangerous. More unemployment than medellin, more crime.

That said, I find the chicas in Cali, just like you said, more open and easier than in Medellin.
The Paisas de Medellin are fantastic, just with more drama.

Then again, I have to admit, i was in Medellin the other night and met a real sweetheart beauty at my favorite secret place.
Always seems to be a diamond just waiting for me there.

I think it's because I'm the ONLY gringo they've seen there ... incredible but true. I'm still a celebrety there. When I show up now, the waiter, the bar tender, the mamasan come and hug me to greet me. Like the old days in Medellin when Aussie Greg was still riding Kangaroos in the down under ... hahaha :)

Sorry dudes, I'll have to keep this place a secret ... my little hideaway.
I'm sure it will be found, but I'll enjoy it for now.

I remeber discovering NEW LIFE in Medellin with Robert (Castillo) years back, before there was a bunch of Casas in el Centro.
We made a pinky promise not to let anyone know about it .... hahaha ... now it's on the tourist guide list of places to visit.

Take care Cuba, and like you say ... disfruta la vida y las mujeres !!

Superboy1
06-11-07, 22:59
Superboy11,

Right off the bat, you re asking a working Mansion girl "How Much" which leaves the door wide open to higher pricing. I know you are a good looking gent but your Spanish communications are lacking. Like Ricker has said in his post below, the girls are looking for money. What they need it for and how much they need is not always a pleasant topic to "chit chat" about.

Out of curiosity, how much do you feel the girl should ask for her time so as to it not being an insult to you and your good looks?

I really don't think the girls feel they are gouging or over pricing themselves to gringos since most gringos at the Mansion pay what they ask for. Therefore, why should a girl lower her price for her time to one gringo (especially if she is in demand) when another will give her what she wants.

Now, Superboy11, I have seen you dating/taking out Mansion girls while off the work clock for dinner, dancing etc. I would guess that not all charge you for their lovemaking time afterwards, or do they? Also, many of the girls have boyfriends (even though they say they don't) so they are not looking for a gringo relationship and therefore see no reason to given preferential pricing to "good looking gringos".

Overall I'm still more than disappointed that the Mansion girls continue to be paid the higher pricing. I've said this before that $100,000 for ST is my self imposed limit and I pass on those girls who will not come down. Those who do take the lower amount don't do so because of my good looks (LOL) but instead because I communicate with them the profitable method of getting laid/paid early and often.

IMHO, I like the Medellin Paisa but I tire of Mansion girls quickly. This is why I frequent the casas, strip clubs streetwalkers etc. Furthermore I have taken to enjoying the charms and sweetness and lower pricing of Cali girls.

For example and viewing pleasure, I just got back from Cali a few days ago which Ricker can attest to (LOL, inside humor guys). These Cali girls not only gave me total bareback and simulated GFE but also were not out to break the bank. Believe me or not but none of these girls were over $30,000 to $37,000 cop for an unrushed hour of fun. On top of this EACH one asked me if I was up for taking them out for drinks and dancing on their day(s) off. A couple of which I did take them up on and later did not pay for all night stays.


Cheers Gents, Enjoy Life and Women,


Cubanut

Hi Cubanut and thanks guys for you replys, now i understand.
Its been awhile Cuban since i have seen you here,well seen you full stop LOL.
hope you are well.
Ya there were only a few girls that were like that ,but it did [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) my off,but now i understand, ha i only young and still learning.
Ya many a time i have taken girls out for dinner and to Mangos and yes i still do it,and lot of time the girl would come back and stay over ,and sometimes not evern ask for any money.
I know that i do not really know what i want from these girls in Medellin,i have a bad habit of falling for some of them,but i do not take it too serous,and i have learnt alot over the past 2years of traveling there. Well there have been big changes in my life lately, but i should be back on track to going to Medellin in Sept/oct time.i cannot wait.maybe see some of you there.
cheers

Superboy

Fantasy
06-12-07, 00:03
More Pictures, Pictures, Pictures....................Pretty please.......

Poor But Horny
06-12-07, 00:12
Hi Poor but Horny & Arteworks1

As I wrote last week, I went tonight to Fase II to look for Ana Maria.

Your pm is turned off.

I have her # and email.

Malodr
06-12-07, 00:54
Some of the girls I had.

Cubiche
06-12-07, 10:25
Someone tell me something. This has happean afew times on my trips to Medellin(Mansion). let me give you one example.
I saw this girl i really liked, she went off with this old guy in his 60/70s, i ask him after how much she ask , the answer was 200.000, which in my mind is alot. well a couple of days later i saw her again,and got chatting with her, and then ask her how much to go with her,she said 250.000 then 200.000.
I found that alittle insulting. here i am nice looking guy in my 20s blonde hair blue eyes,alot of girls jump at the chance to be with me.but yet some girls ask for the same money from me that they ask from the old guys,WHY??

I will give the you the benefit of the doubt and will assume you are ignorant of the facts of life as it relates to professional sex providers. Their interest is NOT in the person, but the size of their wallet. It would not matter if the person is 60/70, even 80 or in your case in their 20s. You relate that you are insulted because they require you to pay the same amount for their service as they charge others. Are you insulted that you pay the same price as others at restaurant for the same meal? Shouldn't an older person get a Senior Discount as in some establishments?

Fantasy
06-12-07, 15:13
You are good looking and in your twenties? You should not have to pay, or even monger for that matter. But you choose to avoid the hassles of women at home as we old, overweight, out of shape, fucks do. So you must pay the same or more!

Fantasy
06-12-07, 15:22
I am prepared to send you Western Union for the name of your "secret place". I am a Platinum member at W.U. and they all hug me when I go In!!!!(lol).

Fantasy.....................

Cubanut
06-12-07, 17:19
Gents,

One thing about Medellin Paisas is how homesick they become. Even the coldest ice queen melts when you start talking about her hometown.

Well this long tall Paisa started out warm and by the end of our time together was smoking HOT! I met her in a "not so secret" place in Cali that I have yet to see a gringo go to. The place is Bar La Viente or La Viente in south Cali. be prepared to be followed by many eyes as you enter because like I said it is rare for a gringo to be there. It's kinda is set up like Adelita's Bar in TJ but only Colombians are here.

Myself, being adventurous, bold or stupid go there on Sundays because it is the calmest day and it is also one of the only bars that are open on Sunday. They close early 10pm because on Sunday all bars must close at 10pm. The only Sunday place to legally buy a drink after 10pm is in Juanchito.


WARNING! Do not wander around outside of La Viente because it is impoverished and you will be a mark immediately. I also DO NOT recommend a newbie go here without a Colombian friend/guide. In fact the taxi drivers usually ask you if you have been to Bar La Viente before taking you there and wish you luck as you exit the taxi. The guys drink heavily and fights do break out there often.


Cheers,


Cubanut

Sparkchaser69
06-12-07, 20:01
Cubanut,
Good to see you back. If I am sending to much crap to your email, let me know.
Keep up the good work as usual, my SO (Colombiana) has put Colombia off limits for the time being. Maybe one day I'll be back. Did some work in Los Suenos and always search out my colombianas :)

Escort King
06-12-07, 20:05
Gents,

One thing about Medellin Paisas is how homesick they become. Even the coldest ice queen melts when you start talking about her hometown.

Well this long tall Paisa started out warm and by the end of our time together was smoking HOT! I met her in a "not so secret" place in Cali that I have yet to see a gringo go to. The place is Bar La Viente or La Viente in south Cali. be prepared to be followed by many eyes as you enter because like I said it is rare for a gringo to be there. It's kinda is set up like Adelita's Bar in TJ but only Colombians are here.

Myself, being adventurous, bold or stupid go there on Sundays because it is the calmest day and it is also one of the only bars that are open on Sunday. They close early 10pm because on Sunday all bars must close at 10pm. The only Sunday place to legally buy a drink after 10pm is in Juanchito.


WARNING! Do not wander around outside of La Viente because it is impoverished and you will be a mark immediately. I also DO NOT recommend a newbie go here without a Colombian friend/guide. In fact the taxi drivers usually ask you if you have been to Bar La Viente before taking you there and wish you luck as you exit the taxi. The guys drink heavily and fights do break out there often.


Cheers,


Cubanut

That is one hot chica... you have all the luck... well maybe you just persevere more than most.... but she is awesome

Winner71
06-13-07, 01:37
Yes, I really like that gals legs. Right down my alley.



That is one hot chica... you have all the luck... well maybe you just persevere more than most.... but she is awesome

Acuerpado
06-13-07, 16:31
Now that Cubanut is back posting photos i'm embarassed to bother showing my photos of low-rent hookers, but here are a few random shots from bars in el Centro.

Col Bog 1- i tried to PM you Lina's cell phone number but your PM is turned off.

The Corn Hole
06-13-07, 21:49
I will give the you the benefit of the doubt and will assume you are ignorant of the facts of life as it relates to professional sex providers. Their interest is NOT in the person, but the size of their wallet. It would not matter if the person is 60/70, even 80 or in your case in their 20s. You relate that you are insulted because they require you to pay the same amount for their service as they charge others. Are you insulted that you pay the same price as others at restaurant for the same meal? Shouldn't an older person get a Senior Discount as in some establishments?

I just have to disagree with this. They may be professional sex workers but you can't forget they're women first. If you were selling your services and had a choice to fuck some young, attractive girl or some old, haggard bag (most other things being equal) which would you choose? Have zero experience with Columbian women but have been with working girls in various countries all over the world. I've had a number who charged me less, sometimes half as much as other older guys. Now, not all have been like this but a number have been. I've known some WORKING girls who only went with younger guys they were attracted to or at least viewed them as a primary target. I find it hard to believe that the same principle wouldn't apply to many WG's in Columbia.

Winner71
06-13-07, 23:04
Does age matter?
The key is creating a rapport, irrespective of age. I would never pay more than "I" want to pay. So it comes down to...
1) have I built the rapport well enough
2) have I done my part to convince the gal that she really wants to have sex with me as a person... not just another customer (at least for the next 30 minutes to hour or however long we are talking about). This can be done in various ways.
3) how much does she think she can get from me (I.e.... if I ask her a price, I've just fucked up). Revert back to the header.. I pay what "I" want to pay.
4) does she have any urgent bills she needs to pay... thus she's desperate for cash.
5) if she doesn't go with me is there someone else willing to pay her more in the next few minutes or hours.

If you don't meet one of the above 5 criteria... you will most likely be paying her whatever she wants you to pay. So does age matter? Probably not, however age does go with #2 to some stance. I.e. if you are getting a discounted price or freebie because of #2 above it is going to because you make her laugh, you have a good game, she likes you, or you maybe because you are a hot young whippersnapper that turns her on.

This is the exact reason why:
a) guys that ask the gals, "how much?" end up paying her what she wants (which is more than I would ever pay)
b) guys that frequent the mansion or try to negotiate with gals at the mansion or places where there is a higher supply of deep pockets or suckers will always end up paying the gal whatt she wants (which is more than I would evver pay)
c) guys that start out asking questions like, do you do bbbj, or anal, etc end up paying the gal what she wants or even more than her normal rates. I would NEVER ask these questions until in the actual act. (which is more than I would ever pay). It absolutely kills rapport.

I.e. If you like a chica and let's say she normally tries to get say 100k for say an hour. However, typically settles for say 80k, but if you can create a bond or something on item 1-5 above you can get her for say 40-50k pesos. Now if you start asking herr do you do bbbj.. answer will be.. 1) no or 2) sure for another 30k pesos. Now you are at 130k pesos. Next you ask her, do you do anal... answer will be... 1) no or 2) sure for another 50k pesos. Now you are at 180k pesos. Had you taken the approach of creating a bond, making herr giggle and be head over heals about you, you'd be in that room for 50k pesos. When it comes time to do the bbbj and she goes for the condom either sweet talk her.. at which point she will agree because she likes you and truth be told she pretty much gives everyone bbbj anyways, or let her put the condom on. After say 30 seconds, say like a really sad puppy dog... "Mi amor, no me gusta el condom, no puedo sentir nada. Esto es la primera vez que alguien ha usado un condom para chuparme." Pout and pull it off. I guarantee you that if you had created that rapport in the beginning she proceeds to suck you bbbj. I have never in my life had a girl suck my dick with a condom on. NEVER in any city in Colombia. Pro or non-pro. Colombianas live to please their man. If she refueses to suck you without a condom.. you either created NO rapport in the beginning, she hates you, or you just got very very very unlucky. I have never heard of this happening. Those pros that get to say," sure for an extra 30k etc." know they have a sucker in front of them or are testing you to see if you are a sucker. Point is, don't bring it up in the first place. So what just happened? For 50k I get a f/s with bbbj versus the typical sucker who is paying 130k because he asked. When you ask, they know they have a sucker by the balls. As for Anal.. I don't have the solution as I don't ever do anal. "I" don't like it. However, almost every non-pro Colombiana I know will tell you that "Anal" drives them crazy and really makes them fall in love with their man. Thus I don't know why it would be any different with a Pro. I just can't state that the same approach works as I never attempt it.

So, do older guys pay more? Not if they are successful at 1-5 above. At the end of the day it's all about one of these...in no particular order
1) supply and demand
2) what does or doesn't turn her on about you? did you make her laugh, are you a GQ cover model, does she like your personality... something, anything. But not, do you do bbbj or anal, those are deal killers.
3) how much does she think she can get out of you? Regardless of age. If you act like you are money bags or if you ask questions about price, bbbj, anal etc... you will be paying the sucker rate 100% of the time.
4) how bad does she need the cash

Ultimate truth is other than casas where the price is pretty much set (though again, don't ask how much for bbbj or anal), the best thing to do is NEVER discuss price for anything. Make her laugh, charm her, treat her like a princess and at the end of the date ( fuck session, whatever it may be), put however much you want to pay her in her purse and tell her you had a fantastic time and that you will call her. I have never ever had anyone complain, pout, or even look to see how much I gave them. And if you give them your phone #, your phone will be ringing off the hook for the rest of your stay, so obvioulsy that 40k-50k pesos I slipped in her purse for the last 1 to 24 hours was just fine. Actually 4 years ago in CTG I had someone pout and told me she was not going to accept the 30k pesos I put in her purse. In fact the whole session was an error as I wasn't attracted to her and never even came. After a good 15 minutes I got up, pulled off the condom, and told her to leave (she was actually quite a biitch... local in Cartagena from Cartagena). I stuck the 30k in her purse while she was getting dress. As she walked to the door she looked in herr purse, mouthing off that she's not a puta etc and wanted 100k pesos. I told her to take her 30k pesos and put a smile on her face. She threw the 30k pesos on the ground and refused to leave until I paid her 100k pesos. I picked the 30k pesos off the ground, walked toward the door, opened it and said bye. She left, and I never heard from her again. So turns out that was a freebie. Though it was a waste of time. My point is, that was the 1 and only time out of many many times that anyone has even looked in their purse, yet alone complain or not want the chance to go out and do it again.

So does age have anything to do with it? It can, but you can be 50 years old and create 1-5 above and you may have a freebie or you can be a GQ 19 year old with a 10 inch dick, but if you have sucker written all over your face, act like you are money bags, or discuss pricing issues in advance... you will pay what SHE wants. Happens everytime. The best advice is just don't even discuss pricing, unless you are at a casa. Further, if you only have however much you REALLY want to pay in your wallet... that's all you will be paying. After all, I've never heard of a puta accepting Visa or MC. So the rule.. no discussion of price, ever. Even after you are done. Just put what you want in her purse. If it ends up not being enough... it's all you have, right? Or you can do like the majority of the suckers and talk price price price and you will pay pay pay !!!


I just have to disagree with this. They may be professional sex workers but you can't forget they're women first. If you were selling your services and had a choice to fuck some young, attractive girl or some old, haggard bag (most other things being equal) which would you choose? Have zero experience with Columbian women but have been with working girls in various countries all over the world. I've had a number who charged me less, sometimes half as much as other older guys. Now, not all have been like this but a number have been. I've known some WORKING girls who only went with younger guys they were attracted to or at least viewed them as a primary target. I find it hard to believe that the same principle wouldn't apply to many WG's in Columbia.

Potts6
06-13-07, 23:23
Hey cubanut,

Nice pics of these Cali girls. Pic #5 looks really familiar to me. Can't remember if I met her once at flora's or escoces. If not, where can she be found? Is her name leidy or johanna? Just curious, she's a cutie.


Superboy11,

Right off the bat, you re asking a working Mansion girl "How Much" which leaves the door wide open to higher pricing. I know you are a good looking gent but your Spanish communications are lacking. Like Ricker has said in his post below, the girls are looking for money. What they need it for and how much they need is not always a pleasant topic to "chit chat" about.

Out of curiosity, how much do you feel the girl should ask for her time so as to it not being an insult to you and your good looks?

I really don't think the girls feel they are gouging or over pricing themselves to gringos since most gringos at the Mansion pay what they ask for. Therefore, why should a girl lower her price for her time to one gringo (especially if she is in demand) when another will give her what she wants.

Now, Superboy11, I have seen you dating/taking out Mansion girls while off the work clock for dinner, dancing etc. I would guess that not all charge you for their lovemaking time afterwards, or do they? Also, many of the girls have boyfriends (even though they say they don't) so they are not looking for a gringo relationship and therefore see no reason to given preferential pricing to "good looking gringos".

Overall I'm still more than disappointed that the Mansion girls continue to be paid the higher pricing. I've said this before that $100,000 for ST is my self imposed limit and I pass on those girls who will not come down. Those who do take the lower amount don't do so because of my good looks (LOL) but instead because I communicate with them the profitable method of getting laid/paid early and often.

IMHO, I like the Medellin Paisa but I tire of Mansion girls quickly. This is why I frequent the casas, strip clubs streetwalkers etc. Furthermore I have taken to enjoying the charms and sweetness and lower pricing of Cali girls.

For example and viewing pleasure, I just got back from Cali a few days ago which Ricker can attest to (LOL, inside humor guys). These Cali girls not only gave me total bareback and simulated GFE but also were not out to break the bank. Believe me or not but none of these girls were over $30,000 to $37,000 cop for an unrushed hour of fun. On top of this EACH one asked me if I was up for taking them out for drinks and dancing on their day(s) off. A couple of which I did take them up on and later did not pay for all night stays.


Cheers Gents, Enjoy Life and Women,


Cubanut

OldGringoBangs
06-15-07, 03:07
You are absolutely right . The girls don 't trade currencies and a peso is a peso. I like you,know that it is up to us to shop price.If the dollar doesn't rebound it will be up to us to see that the prices we pay reflect this devaluation. If we don't it will be good by Colombia and hello Bolivia, Peru and others. Of course there is always the Orient!


I think this will have the greatest impact on the independents, especially those servicing the Mansion and VIP crowd. The market price was hovering around 150K with time to be negotiated. (PLEASE NO COMMENTS ON PRICING - THIS IS ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE PESO!) As I responded in a post in May about the incall girls we were seeing at VIP, the price ranged from 100K to 200K for a quickie, to a few hours to TLN with 150K as the median. While we may be able to justify $60 to $70 for a hot Colombiana, I don't think anyone wants to start incurring costs of $100 per chica, plus all the related travel costs.

The problem is getting the girls to understand this. I doubt that many will understand the exchange rate fluctuation and the strong peso. It will take a decline in demand for them to lower their prices.

More daytime trips to the mid level casas will be in order. Also more hunting in Mayorista for the gems. And as a last resort more time with the semi-novia.

Almotu
06-15-07, 05:09
I can really appreciate what you wrote concerning prices vs age, etc. I can imagine that you are quite the playa, LOL!
I can understand the other side of the coin as well. Many guys are only here for a short time and want to make the most of it. They want what they don't get back home. They don't want to be disappointed so they have the mentality that they are paying for hookers only less expensive than in the States (or home country) ... thus all the negotiating for BBBJ, Anal and CIM, etc.
Your approach ("making them laugh, build a rapport") only works if the guy speaks some Spanish and many are too lazy to try to learn. They want girls to be able to speak English which can narrow the field to more hardcore pros. I think you have been lucky that things did not get ugly when a girl did not like what she got paid. Most guys like myself do not want to risk the possiblity that Policia might be called. So we pre-negotiate the price. I completely agree with you that it is a mood breaker but it needs to be said especially if you are dealing with a girl for the first time.

UrbanWildlife
06-15-07, 05:34
Expressed Perfectly! My sentiments exactly!

Rebel Monger
06-15-07, 06:32
Someone tell me something. This has happean afew times on my trips to Medellin(Mansion). let me give you one example.
I saw this girl i really liked, she went off with this old guy in his 60/70s, i ask him after how much she ask , the answer was 200.000, which in my mind is alot. well a couple of days later i saw her again,and got chatting with her, and then ask her how much to go with her,she said 250.000 then 200.000.
I found that alittle insulting. here i am nice looking guy in my 20s blonde hair blue eyes,alot of girls jump at the chance to be with me.but yet some girls ask for the same money from me that they ask from the old guys,WHY??
Maybe she thought that if a young, nice looking, blonde, blue eyed guys is trying to pay for sex, there must be something really wrong with him and she tried to cash on it. Smart gal I'd say!
And let's not comment about the "a lot of girls jump at the chance to be with me" because when I was young and pretty good looking (according to my mom) (no blue eyes but green), I didn't pay for sex!

Mangera
06-15-07, 16:26
Maybe she thought that if a young, nice looking, blonde, blue eyed guys is trying to pay for sex, there must be something really wrong with him and she tried to cash on it. Smart gal I'd say!
And let's not comment about the "a lot of girls jump at the chance to be with me" because when I was young and pretty good looking (according to my mom) (no blue eyes but green), I didn't pay for sex!
If she asks why a nice looking guy is paying for a pice of ass, just say you have a girlfriend who is nuts, inconsiderate, and overweight. That you are even thinking about dumping her. So you look for a sweet, sexy women like the gal your with at the moment. Works for me.

The truth is I just like variation, but don't ever tell a women that, they will never accept that. my two cents.

El Austriaco
06-15-07, 17:11
Or you can do like the majority of the suckers and talk price price price and you will pay pay pay !!!
I greatly appreciate this post, and you make some very good points that everyone should definitely consider in their dealings with pros. I also fully agree with your assessment of "do old guys pay more"; I think you did an outstanding job explaining why, depending on a number of issues, this does not always have to be the case.

Based on my personal mongering style and experience, however, let me address some issues where my opinion differs somewhat from yours.

1) I am one of the mongers who purposedly asks girls to make the first offer. For me, this is the first step in screening them, to figure out how hardcore they really are. So if a girl makes a totally ridiculous offer, say, COP 300,000 for ST, it's goodbe right there, because I immediately know that she is looking at me as a sucker or looking for a sucker to pay that much. In other words, once she is convinced I am a sucker, her performance will ultimately suck, too. And despite of what she might tell me during the rapport-building process, this is the only piece of information I can really rely upon. Remember, while she is wooing me as a customer, it is in her best financial interest to tell me whatever I might want to hear ("you are so handsome, so sweet, I have never met a man who treats me like you do!"). The first time she tells me a price, I already know how she is viewing me really. This info is priceless for me. Needless to say, this approach only works as long as one does his homework on this board and determines the average price range beforehand.

2) Sometimes, when you ask a girl for the price, she will just say "Just give me whatever you think it is worth/what I am worth/what you think is fair". Without exception, everytime that I accepted that, I either got a sob story after the deed or a nasty fight afterwards. They NEVER EVER were happy with what I gave them (and I can assure you that in the case of good performance, I am quite generous), simply because whatever you give them never matches what they imagined in their wildest dreams that they would get (like Xmas, Easter, and all future BDs thrown together). So based on my experience, it is crucial to nail down at least the price beforehand, excluding any possibility of any misunderstanding/difference of opinion whatsoever. And as Almotu said, I don't want to leave the door open for an unpleasant experience discussing prices once the deal has been consummated, possibly even involving the police in a foreign country. In other words, I prefer the mood killer before getting involved than afterwards, because before, I can just walk away without any problems. Afterwards, you might not be able to do that. I also want to know the price beforehand for safety issues: I just bring just enough money fkr the deal, nothing more.

3) I am also someone who likes to discuss details of the transaction other than price beforehand. In other words (to use Lorenzo's words, to be exact): negotiate for services, too. I agree with you that those details can be a total mood killer.. but only if addressed clumsily. I believe that if you build some sort of rapport with the girl first, the whole issue of talking about prices and what kind of services she will provide can be handled in a quite humorous, playful, and ultimately almost erotic/enticing sort of way. Recently, I provided a list of Portuguese phrases to a guy in the Brazil section, but the thought that that guy would write them down in the form of a checklist to bring to potential encounters with girls just makes me laugh, if not shiver (talk about a "mood destroyer"!). But as long as one is fluent in Spanish and can make her laugh about other things, I think it wouldn't be too difficult to figure out prices and service details within the scope of a relatively normal conversation, with lots of laughts and giggles thrown in for good measure. As a matter of fact, testing the girls humor is one of the key elements of my personal screening process, too. My rationale being that if she can not laugh at herself and with me before, how uptight is she going to be in bed?

4) Let me say one final thing about "killing the mood". As I addressed above, I don't think that it completely has to ruin the mood, and in addition, I believe there is an advantage to discussing these things first: it defines what the transaction is about, sex for money. I have seen so many mongers (including myself) ultimately getting so romantic with the girls in their search for a GFE that they crossed into the terrain of the "GF" experience, treating the girl like their actual GF while losing sight of what she really is, a hooker getting paid to act like their GF for a while... and then go away. In my experience, by not addressing details of her service offering beforehand, I am leaving the door wide open for the kind of stuff I can expect after one-night stands with non-pros... the questions ("what does this mean?" When do we meet again? What do you like about me?" blablabla), the mind games ("I don't want to see you with other women"), the sob stories ("I am just a poor girl, and my baby needs milk"). All things that I don't really want to deal with, and that's exactly why I am willing to pay: so that I don't have to listen to them. Some mongers might not mind, or not mind having an altercation after the fact (as in you 30K example in Cartagena), personally, I do. I prefer to rather get this stuff out of the way BEFORE, leaving it perfectly clear for everyone involved what this is about: a monger looking for hot sex, a hooker looking to make money. If that does not remain crystal-clear to everyone before we hit the sheets, I prefer not to get involved at all. But that's just me.

In my opinion, it's no different from having my car fixed: I will go to the mechanic, explain what I need/want (negotiating for services), but then, I want to know how much (negotiating the price). I certainly wouldn't just leave the car there, let him fix whatever he wants, and then be presented with a bill that might possibly be way out my league. Or just leave him with whatever I thought his services were worth and expect him to just accept it. I can't really see any good reason why it should be different with hookers.

In other words, my philosophy is:

1) Build rapport and chemistry, treat the women with respect, just like you treat any other woman.
2) Determine price and service details to come to an educated decision and to remind the girl that while she is a woman first, she is a women offering sex for money, and that's why you are here.
3) Once that is clear, treat her well, enjoy the sex, walk away without hassles and headaches.
4) If you want, come back to her and start over at 1). Or not.

Again, I am just trying to provide a somewhat different perspective and explain the rationale behind my modus operandi. Hope this is helpful to some fellow mongers.

EA

P.S.: To those wondering why I am posting here (since they won't recognize my handle, considering that I have never posted here), let me quickly explain that I have been to Colombia twice (BogotŠ, Cartagena, Barranquilla), though I have much more experience in Brazil, where I have spent a total of 10 months. Mangera and some other knows me from the Rio board, I am sure :). Still hoping to make it to Medellin one day, possibly next year.

Sparkchaser69
06-15-07, 17:46
I greatly appreciate this post, and you make some very good points that everyone should definitely consider in their dealings with pros. I also fully agree with your assessment of "do old guys pay more"; I think you did an outstanding job explaining why, depending on a number of issues, this does not always have to be the case.

Based on my personal mongering style and experience, however, let me address some issues where my opinion differs somewhat from yours.

1) I am one of the mongers who purposedly asks girls to make the first offer. For me, this is the first step in screening them, to figure out how hardcore they really are. So if a girl makes a totally ridiculous offer, say, COP 300,000 for ST, it's goodbe right there, because I immediately know that she is looking at me as a sucker or looking for a sucker to pay that much. In other words, once she is convinced I am a sucker, her performance will ultimately suck, too. And despite of what she might tell me during the rapport-building process, this is the only piece of information I can really rely upon. Remember, while she is wooing me as a customer, it is in her best financial interest to tell me whatever I might want to hear ("you are so handsome, so sweet, I have never met a man who treats me like you do!"). The first time she tells me a price, I already know how she is viewing me really. This info is priceless for me. Needless to say, this approach only works as long as one does his homework on this board and determines the average price range beforehand.

2) Sometimes, when you ask a girl for the price, she will just say "Just give me whatever you think it is worth/what I am worth/what you think is fair". Without exception, everytime that I accepted that, I either got a sob story after the deed or a nasty fight afterwards. They NEVER EVER were happy with what I gave them (and I can assure you that in the case of good performance, I am quite generous), simply because whatever you give them never matches what they imagined in their wildest dreams that they would get (like Xmas, Easter, and all future BDs thrown together). So based on my experience, it is crucial to nail down at least the price beforehand, excluding any possibility of any misunderstanding/difference of opinion whatsoever. And as Almotu said, I don't want to leave the door open for an unpleasant experience discussing prices once the deal has been consummated, possibly even involving the police in a foreign country. In other words, I prefer the mood killer before getting involved than afterwards, because before, I can just walk away without any problems. Afterwards, you might not be able to do that. I also want to know the price beforehand for safety issues: I just bring enough just money to the deal, nothing more.

3) I am also someone who likes to discuss details of the transaction other than price beforehand. In other words (to use Lorenzo's words, to be exact): negotiate for services, too. I agree with you that those details can be a total mood killer.. but only if addressed clumsily. I believe that if you build some sort of rapport with the girl first, the whole issue of talking about prices and what kind of services she will provide can be handled in a quite humorous, playful, and ultimately almost erotic/enticing sort of way. Recently, I provided a list of Portuguese phrases to a guy in the Brazil section, but the thought that that guy would write them down in the form of a checklist to bring to potential encounters with girls just makes me laugh, if not shiver (talk about a "mood destroyer"!). But as long as one is fluent in Spanish and can make her laugh about other things, I think it wouldn't be too difficult to figure out prices and service details within the scope of a relatively normal conversation, with lots of laughts and giggles thrown in for good measure. As a matter of fact, testing the girls humor is one of the key elements of my personal screening process, too. My rationale being that if she can not laugh at herself and with me before, how uptight is she going to be in bed?

4) Let me say one final thing about "killing the mood". As I addressed above, I don't think that it completely has to ruin the mood, and in addition, I believe there is an advantage to discussing these things first: it defines what the transaction is about, sex for money. I have seen so many mongers (including myself) ultimately getting so romantic with the girls in their search for a GFE that they crossed into the terrain of the "GF" experience, treating the girl like their actual GF while losing sight of what she really is, a hooker getting paid to act like their GF for a while... and then go away. In my experience, by not addressing details of her service offering beforehand, I am leaving the door wide open for the kind of stuff I can expect after one-night stands with non-pros... the questions ("what does this mean?" When do we meet again? What do you like about me?" blablabla), the mind games ("I don't want to see you with other women"), the sob stories ("I am just a poor girl, and my baby needs milk"). All things that I don't really want to deal with, and that's exactly why I am willing to pay: so that I don't have to listen to them. Some mongers might not mind, or not mind having an altercation after the fact (as in you 30K example in Cartagena), personally, I do. I prefer to rather get this stuff out of the way BEFORE, leaving it perfectly clear for everyone involved what this is about: a monger looking for hot sex, a hooker looking to make money. If that does not remain crystal-clear to everyone before we hit the sheets, I prefer not to get involved at all. But that's just me.

In my opinion, it's no different from having my car fixed: I will go to the mechanic, explain what I need/want (negotiating for services), but then, I want to know how much (negotiating the price). I certainly wouldn't just leave the car there, let him fix whatever he wants, and then be presented with a bill that might possibly be way out my league. Or just leave him with whatever I thought his services were worth and expect him to just accept it. I can't really see any good reason why it should be different with hookers.

In other words, my philosophy is:

1) Build rapport and chemistry, treat the women with respect, just like you treat any other woman.
2) Determine price and service details to come to an educated decision and to remind the girl that while she is a woman first, she is a women offering sex for money, and that's why you are here.
3) Once that is clear, treat her well, enjoy the sex, walk away without hassles and headaches.
4) If you want, come back to her and start over at 1). Or not.

Again, I am just trying to provide a somewhat different perspective and explain the rationale behind my modus operandi. Hope this is helpful to some fellow mongers.

EA

EA...Sports, Your definetly in the game!! WELL PUT.

Winner71
06-15-07, 18:11
Thanks for posting your methods. We all learn something from the different ways people do things. I hope to make it down to Brazil, actually I am planning on going toward the end of the year. Do you find a lot of drama in the chicas? Ricker has pointed out numerous times the drama of the Paisas. I typically try to do all I can to prevent drama.

I appreciate your comments and it's clear we do things differently as you prefer to get it out of the way, make sure they know why they are here (i.e. they are a sex provider), and then you treat her respectfully.

Every chica I am with, I just act like every gal is my gf... nothing more, nothing less. I wouldn't discuss pricing to fuck my gf, so I'm not going to do it with a puta either... as she is my girlfriend for the next 30 minutes, hour, 2 hours, 24 hours... whatever it may be. Works for me. However, I do think we all learn from others and I look forward to going to the Brazil section and reading some of your posts in the next few months.

Thanks again for the insight.

Happy mongering.



I greatly appreciate this post, and you make some very good points that everyone should definitely consider in their dealings with pros. I also fully agree with your assessment of "do old guys pay more"; I think you did an outstanding job explaining why, depending on a number of issues, this does not always have to be the case.

Based on my personal mongering style and experience, however, let me address some issues where my opinion differs somewhat from yours.

1) I am one of the mongers who purposedly asks girls to make the first offer. For me, this is the first step in screening them, to figure out how hardcore they really are. So if a girl makes a totally ridiculous offer, say, COP 300,000 for ST, it's goodbe right there, because I immediately know that she is looking at me as a sucker or looking for a sucker to pay that much. In other words, once she is convinced I am a sucker, her performance will ultimately suck, too. And despite of what she might tell me during the rapport-building process, this is the only piece of information I can really rely upon. Remember, while she is wooing me as a customer, it is in her best financial interest to tell me whatever I might want to hear ("you are so handsome, so sweet, I have never met a man who treats me like you do!"). The first time she tells me a price, I already know how she is viewing me really. This info is priceless for me. Needless to say, this approach only works as long as one does his homework on this board and determines the average price range beforehand.

2) Sometimes, when you ask a girl for the price, she will just say "Just give me whatever you think it is worth/what I am worth/what you think is fair". Without exception, everytime that I accepted that, I either got a sob story after the deed or a nasty fight afterwards. They NEVER EVER were happy with what I gave them (and I can assure you that in the case of good performance, I am quite generous), simply because whatever you give them never matches what they imagined in their wildest dreams that they would get (like Xmas, Easter, and all future BDs thrown together). So based on my experience, it is crucial to nail down at least the price beforehand, excluding any possibility of any misunderstanding/difference of opinion whatsoever. And as Almotu said, I don't want to leave the door open for an unpleasant experience discussing prices once the deal has been consummated, possibly even involving the police in a foreign country. In other words, I prefer the mood killer before getting involved than afterwards, because before, I can just walk away without any problems. Afterwards, you might not be able to do that. I also want to know the price beforehand for safety issues: I just bring just enough money fkr the deal, nothing more.

3) I am also someone who likes to discuss details of the transaction other than price beforehand. In other words (to use Lorenzo's words, to be exact): negotiate for services, too. I agree with you that those details can be a total mood killer.. but only if addressed clumsily. I believe that if you build some sort of rapport with the girl first, the whole issue of talking about prices and what kind of services she will provide can be handled in a quite humorous, playful, and ultimately almost erotic/enticing sort of way. Recently, I provided a list of Portuguese phrases to a guy in the Brazil section, but the thought that that guy would write them down in the form of a checklist to bring to potential encounters with girls just makes me laugh, if not shiver (talk about a "mood destroyer"!). But as long as one is fluent in Spanish and can make her laugh about other things, I think it wouldn't be too difficult to figure out prices and service details within the scope of a relatively normal conversation, with lots of laughts and giggles thrown in for good measure. As a matter of fact, testing the girls humor is one of the key elements of my personal screening process, too. My rationale being that if she can not laugh at herself and with me before, how uptight is she going to be in bed?

4) Let me say one final thing about "killing the mood". As I addressed above, I don't think that it completely has to ruin the mood, and in addition, I believe there is an advantage to discussing these things first: it defines what the transaction is about, sex for money. I have seen so many mongers (including myself) ultimately getting so romantic with the girls in their search for a GFE that they crossed into the terrain of the "GF" experience, treating the girl like their actual GF while losing sight of what she really is, a hooker getting paid to act like their GF for a while... and then go away. In my experience, by not addressing details of her service offering beforehand, I am leaving the door wide open for the kind of stuff I can expect after one-night stands with non-pros... the questions ("what does this mean?" When do we meet again? What do you like about me?" blablabla), the mind games ("I don't want to see you with other women"), the sob stories ("I am just a poor girl, and my baby needs milk"). All things that I don't really want to deal with, and that's exactly why I am willing to pay: so that I don't have to listen to them. Some mongers might not mind, or not mind having an altercation after the fact (as in you 30K example in Cartagena), personally, I do. I prefer to rather get this stuff out of the way BEFORE, leaving it perfectly clear for everyone involved what this is about: a monger looking for hot sex, a hooker looking to make money. If that does not remain crystal-clear to everyone before we hit the sheets, I prefer not to get involved at all. But that's just me.

In my opinion, it's no different from having my car fixed: I will go to the mechanic, explain what I need/want (negotiating for services), but then, I want to know how much (negotiating the price). I certainly wouldn't just leave the car there, let him fix whatever he wants, and then be presented with a bill that might possibly be way out my league. Or just leave him with whatever I thought his services were worth and expect him to just accept it. I can't really see any good reason why it should be different with hookers.

In other words, my philosophy is:

1) Build rapport and chemistry, treat the women with respect, just like you treat any other woman.
2) Determine price and service details to come to an educated decision and to remind the girl that while she is a woman first, she is a women offering sex for money, and that's why you are here.
3) Once that is clear, treat her well, enjoy the sex, walk away without hassles and headaches.
4) If you want, come back to her and start over at 1). Or not.

Again, I am just trying to provide a somewhat different perspective and explain the rationale behind my modus operandi. Hope this is helpful to some fellow mongers.

EA

P.S.: To those wondering why I am posting here (since they won't recognize my handle, considering that I have never posted here), let me quickly explain that I have been to Colombia twice (BogotŠ, Cartagena, Barranquilla), though I have much more experience in Brazil, where I have spent a total of 10 months. Mangera and some other knows me from the Rio board, I am sure :). Still hoping to make it to Medellin one day, possibly next year.

Ricker
06-15-07, 23:02
Does age matter?
The key is creating a rapport, irrespective of age. I would never pay more than "I" want to pay. So it comes down to...
1) have I built the rapport well enough
2) have I done my part to convince the gal that she really wants to have sex with me as a person... not just another customer (at least for the next 30 minutes to hour or however long we are talking about). This can be done in various ways.
3) how much does she think she can get from me (I.e.... if I ask her a price, I've just fucked up). Revert back to the header.. I pay what "I" want to pay.
4) does she have any urgent bills she needs to pay... thus she's desperate for cash.
5) if she doesn't go with me is there someone else willing to pay her more in the next few minutes or hours.

If you don't meet one of the above 5 criteria... you will most likely be paying her whatever she wants you to pay. So does age matter? Probably not, however age does go with #2 to some stance. I.e. if you are getting a discounted price or freebie because of #2 above it is going to because you make her laugh, you have a good game, she likes you, or you maybe because you are a hot young whippersnapper that turns her on ...


I definitely agree with the WINNER on this matter.
I think he must have read my book ... Manejando la Colombiana ... hahaha.

I never discuss price with a chica. As a matter of fact, if she brings up pricing, I get lost.
Of course we both know that she is a pro and looking for money, but I personally dig the romance part of the deal just as much as the sex really.

By the way the chica and I have talked and bonded, she knows she'll get some cash, but also that she'll be treated well.
You guys can have those money grubbing chicas, I'll take the dulces (sweet ones) any day.

I have to say though, just as in anything, there's a wide variation in skill levels of mongering.
As ALMOTU said, obviously it takes spanish. To be able to schmooz a chica, you have to be able to comunicate.
Also depends on your personal people skills; can you be funny, romantic, fun, etc. Some guys call it having game, I just think it's being cool :)

I respect the opinion of guys like El Austriaco. His Barranquilla posts helped me out, I appreciate that.
Some guys dig the direct approach of negotiating, for me it takes away the fun of it, makes it more business like than it has to be.
I can understand the opinion that it keeps things in perspective as far as client / provider go ... and you know what you're going to get in return for a fee. Just not my style ... and as WINNER points out, these guys most usually pay much more.

As far as age goes ... means nothing, unless you let it mean something.
There are guys in their mid-fifties more guapo and in better shape than others in thier twenties.
Age itself is a number. Your looks, your body shape, and most definitely your personality play much more into the schmoozing and bonding with a chica.

Hey all my opinion only ... if you have any questions, ask WINNER, he read my book :)

Suerte amigos !!

Rebel Monger
06-15-07, 23:22
If she asks why a nice looking guy is paying for a pice of ass, just say you have a girlfriend who is nuts, inconsiderate, and overweight. That you are even thinking about dumping her. So you look for a sweet, sexy women like the gal your with at the moment. Works for me.

The truth is I just like variation, but don't ever tell a women that, they will never accept that. my two cents.Just remember that she won't be asking you that question, but asking herself.
Personally, I don't fool myself, if I'm paying for something is because I can't get it for free. It's doesn't mean that I can't get pussy, I can get that in my age bracket. It means that I can't get for free what I'm paying for!

Mangera
06-16-07, 00:06
Just remember that she won't be asking you that question, but asking herself.
Personally, I don't fool myself, if I'm paying for something is because I can't get it for free. It's doesn't mean that I can't get pussy, I can get that in my age bracket. It means that I can't get for free what I'm paying for!
They obviously think about it before asking. I have been asked a couple of times. I have friends that have had this come up on occasion. But you are right, they may ask themselves and wonder.

Tom 33
06-16-07, 00:20
Just remember that she won't be asking you that question, but asking herself.
Personally, I don't fool myself, if I'm paying for something is because I can't get it for free. It's doesn't mean that I can't get pussy, I can get that in my age bracket. It means that I can't get for free what I'm paying for!
Generally the free pussy costs a lot more. The only free sex I ever got was from Manuelito.

Sparkchaser69
06-16-07, 00:24
Generally the free pussy costs a lot more. The only free sex I ever got was from Manuelito.

Now thats some funny shit Tom:)