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QuackUp
09-28-08, 08:11
The sun actually showed it's face today. Yes there were clouds but and the sunlight was going in and out but I will take it.

My buddy and I walk in front of the Orthon palace where one of these dumbasses want to rent us some chairs. I asked how much, he said r$10, I told him to take a hike. Another guy approaches and asked for r$5. I know this is too much also but we accepted.

There were only about 6 working girls on the beach. It didn't matter to me. I was anxious about going to 4x4 to meet up with the girl from last night. My friend wasn't too interested in the girls, so we stayed for about 2 hours then back to the hotel.

After showering, we went next door to get some laundry done. We used the blame it on rio service. The good news, it's r$6 per kilo. The bad news, it's a 3 kilo minimun. My laundry came out to about 1 kilo, but I needed the wash so I let them do it.

Before we went to centro. I needed to get my buddy a ticket to Sao Paulo for the weekend. We went to Bobby but the lowest price he could get was r$159 to s/p and R$589 back to rio. At those prices my friend almost didn't go.

I went on the internet, varig had a special R$159 each way. The only problem was, you needed a cpf (?) number to purchase the ticket. Fortunately, we have a friend who lives in Rio. It would take him an hour to arrive at our hotel but we waited so we could purchase the ticket.

After completing the transation and seeing our local friend off, we went to the metro for our ride to centro. It was about 18:30. For you newbies, if you go to centro, go before 17:00.

The reason being, the metro heading north was packed right from the beginning at our stop, which was the first one.
It would be easy for a pickpocket to do his dirty little deed and get away with it.

There were a couple of shaddy characters next to me but my buddy and myself kept a close watch on them. Call it paranoid but when we got off, we checked back of us to make sure they didn't try and follow us. Which they didn't.

The metro was so crowded, we actually got off one stop before we wanted to because at that stop, the doors on both sides opened. We were on the driver side, once the doors opened, I grabbed my buddy and out the door we went. Looking back, people were pushing people in front of them trying to get on. It was unreal.

Finally we make it to 4x4. Again go into the whiskeria. I don't see my girl downstairs so decided to wait a bit to see if she comes down the sliding pole.

About 30 minutes later, I asked the floor mgr to see if she was working. He called and 10 minutes later she was at our table. Her name is Sol. Tall blond girl. Very friendly and nice. We just conversed for about an hour before heading up. I think by conversing, it makes the girls feel more comfortable with you and in turn, makes the session more special for both.

Upstairs, she was everything I wanted. If you like tall girls, I highly recommend. She did have a breast reduction, so hopefully it doesn't turn anyone off.

She knew I was headed off to s/p tomorrow so I didn't ask her to come to the hotel. She gave me her email and said she would be waiting for my return.

After 4x4, my friend wanted to hook up again with the girl he met at 65. So off we went.

He suggested since we had good success at the whiskeria at 4x4 we should try the whiskeria at 65. At the whiskeria at 65 they do charge an entrance fee. r$60 but it includes two drinks. So we tried it.

Not as many girls as 4x4 but a couple of doable girls. After many offers from other girls, my buddies girl finally showed up. We converse for a while then they finally went up.

From the night before I wanted this one girl who I couldn't remember her name. I asked the floor mgr, who was a woman, if she knew the girl if I gave a description. I told the mgr and she went upstairs where she kept sending girls down that really didn't fit the description but I had to hand it to her for trying.

I never did see the girl and looking back, I should have just paid the admission to go upstairs. Oh well, in Brazil, whats the motto, no regrets.

After my buddy came back downstairs we hung for about another hour with his girl. She was funny and cool. She also gave us advise. She told us if a girl asked for a drink, it's cool if it's a soda, beer or water. If a girl asked for a hard drink or energy drink, just tell them no. This actually works.

QuackUp
09-28-08, 08:13
Final day in Rio. Because of the low fare my friend got from varig, his flight to s/p was at 11:00, my flight was at 20:00.

After my friend left for the airport, I did some shopping and headed back to centro not knowing which terma to visit.

I got to centro about 13:00 and decided to go back to 65 to see if I could find the girl I couldn't find last night. On the way I see a kilograma restaurant, so before getting to 65 I stopped for lunch. Pretty good deal for what I ate.

I thought I would be the first one at 65 but there were about 4 other guys in the place. I spoke to one who was Chinese Brazilian who lives in Rio. He told me I should check out Centarus because they had the best looking girls. He also told me the going rate there is now r$400 a session. No thanks, I will stay with centro.

Inside the boite they are only about 10 girls. About 15 minutes later, in walks in Christine. The girl I took for the team. She was super cool. I told her although I had a great time with her, I was looking for someone else.

She said no problem and would help find her. I gave her the description and she said she knew who I was talking about but she didn't start until 17:00. Because of my flight, I knew I wouldn't be there that late.

A bit later, Christine introduced me to a tall morena. She was about 6 feet even without shoes. We spoke for a while and before you knew it, off to the room we went. This chick was bad-ass in the room. Very, very passionate. One of those sessions I remembered from the past. Highly recommended. I can't remember her name, but I email Christine for her name so hopefully I will have it in case someone is interested.

After the session, took the metro back to the hotel, then headed for the local airport. The last time I used the local airport, it was a dump. They did a good job of refurbishing the airport. No problems, no delays, time to meet my buddy in s/p.

Jake993
09-30-08, 19:24
Wet rainy afternoon in Rio and I ended up in L'oumo. About 9 guys in the boite and about 16 girls. Good assortment. Gravitated quickly towards a nice 24 y.o. (more like 28) mulata who seemed to be standing alone (I like one who is already separated from the herd). 15 minutes or grab-ass and kissy face, we went off for a one hour session. While she as not the "prettiest" girl in the place, I would not be surprised if she were the most enthusiastic. Non stop sex right up until the finishing bell (phone). Back in the quiet TV lounge she surreptitiously gave me her phone number.

Monday night, after a business dinner, I went with a colleague to Barbarella's around midnight just to gawk and waste time. At 1:00 AM, I SMS'ed her asking if she wanted to come to my hotel. Her apartment is very near B's so we met up and headed to the hotel. She wanted R$300 and would stay until 11:00 AM Tuesday. This was my firs time bringing a Termas girl to my hotel room. I have no idea why I waited so long. Un-freaking believable. Probably the most memorable night of sex I have ever had. NOTHING was off the menu. And most of the freaky stuff was her idea. These girls work there for a reason; the like and are very good at sex. Take away the time constraint and you are in for a treat.

To quote Forrest Gump, "...and that's all I 'm gonna say about that...."

Jake

SlimHoleDrill
09-30-08, 20:07
I remember now. Goes by the name of Nina. Amazing body and knows how to use it. I would fly to Rio for the weekend just to give her a poke or two. Thanks very much for the help anyway.
Ditto. I posted about her earlier and there is another post also. Not your typical Brasilian favorite.

El Minetero
10-01-08, 05:32
Met with El Greco yesterday at the Montien Hotel.

He is an astute and well traveled gentleman.

I hope we get to share a meal again.

KT

Doc Simp
10-01-08, 15:21
accomodations. copa princess, www.promenade.com. br 250 reis weekdays and 288 reis on weekends, allows guests if they have documentation. minisuite, located on rua xavier de silvera a block from avenida atlantico

terma solarium, sunday. for the life of me i can't remember this girls face. what i do remember is she kept at me so that i ended up faking busting the second nut. and when she realized i was faking she made sure she got number 2 out of me. 390 reis including drinks, and sushi. small but cozy terma. only thing is it can be a bit of a cockfight with too many guys at times.

help, sunday. we arrived sunday morning, there had by all accounts been a party sponsored by globo the night before and the numbers talked about where 5000 people at helpee. now while i'm not sure thats true i'm sure it was packed. help is obviously suffering. i've read the old accounts for years and what i saw in no way matched past history. business is definitely down. i went sunday night and another night and there was never more than 300 people in the place and the guy to girl ratio was probably 1:3. things i disliked and i'm not sure if it was always this way but help now has a policy that you cannot sit at the tables unless you buy one of their little vip packages with a bottle, etc. also you must buy a ticket to get a drink.

terma montecarlo in copa, monday. i had a really great experience at montecarlo terma. from where i sit its a little bit larger than solarium. i ended up with a really dark skinned mulatta who spoke some english. enough to tell me she had been a samba dancer in some big butt brazilians flick. had a really nice cabine, this chick was built to last and was able to really take the d. i love a girl that will let me pound it out and she was a real trooper. super dark chocolate with a little gap in her teeth. booty big as all outdoors. i spent a total of 390, 00 reis. what i also really liked about mc is that before you go into the cabine they show you what your bill will be with the girls total before you go in so you know what you're going to pay. we closed this place down, spent probably 3 or 4 hours here. that number was after drinks, etc.

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Doc Simp
10-01-08, 15:31
Beach Thursday day. Vanessa. 140 reis 2 hours, First met this one on the beach. MuMu the tout had brought her over. Didn't take her but ran into her later and MP and figured, why not. For a nooner. She got pretty wet actually seemed to enjoy it. Only thing I didn't like was she gave BJ with the cover, I didn't fight it though, just made the deduction from what I would have given her. She still calls to say hello, etc. Guess she figures she made a friend, lives 2 hours from Rio by bus

Terraco Atlantico. I spent a fair amount of time here and there where always alot of empty tables. And always alot of girls circling the outside perimeter because if they don't have money to order food or drinks the waiters won't let them sit at the tables.

Terraco Atlantico, Thursday night. 150 reis 3 hours I'm terrible with names but this girl is the one in the pictures with the pink sweater, she was a hell of a lay, screamed and yelled and begged for it. I thought someone was going to knock on the door. Nice girl. Incidentally her friend the darkskinned girl in the pic tells me she loves in the ass. Unfortunately my apart-hotel only allowed 1 guest at a time. She mentioned that there was some all 24 hour bar that the girls go to when the terrace closes but for the life of me I can't remember the name of the place.

Help Friday. My last full night in Rio I was determined to just sit around and absorb the scenery. No indulgence, however fate had different plans. Funny thing is that these girls even in Help are dancing and the whole dance is about advertisement. So I met this 27yo named Mara and after a couple hours of drinking and dancing. Off to the races. 180 + 10 taxi allnighter. I didn't ask what she wanted, and she didn't tell. I gave her what I felt she deserved in the morning and she didn't complain, she merely asked for taxi fare and didn't specify how much. She stayed until 1030 the next morning. We didn't make love, and I don't think you do in Rio, we had the kinda sex that requires a hardhat and workboots!

General impressions

- fucking vs lovemaking, in Brazil they do the former. Very little of the latter

- If you treat a Terma girl nice. You can have quite a good week a friend got 13 hours for 300 reis, he initially gave her 400, she actually gave him a 100 back telling him it was too much, she even came over later and hung out with him and drank wine, for free.

- Jealousy of girls with each other is really funny to watch, once they have their hooks into you, they are very territorial. At least for that night. Once you make a selection, its almost impossible to change your mind and pick another without a scene so select wisely. Another point someone made to me is if you kiss them. The unspoken message is you are taking them for the night.

- Remember that in Rio ATM machines except Citibank close at 10pm, and all of them require 2 swipes.

- If you choose to use your credit card at a Terma charges show up as a restaurant generally.

Pics in the photo area

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Azn Safado
10-02-08, 04:54
The Real onibus company has two types of buses in operation. The smaller one (25 seats or so) costs 3.2 reais and goes only to centro. It takes a little more than 1/2 hour to get you there. The larger one (50 seats) costs 6 reais (yes, R6 was meant to indicate the cost) and makes the big city tour, first passing through downtown, then going to the domestic airport, then Copa and Ipanema. This grand city tour takes about an hour to arrive at the Copa. At the Copa it goes down Av. Atlantica, which is very convenient for the large tourist hotels.

The larger bus has luggage space below for your suitcase, if you want. Both buses pick up at the same point, right outside the international arrival exit in Terminal 1. (There is also a pickup point outside terminal 2). It says "Real" in big letters on the side of all of these buses, and they have their destinations posted in their front windows in black letters on white cardboard.

The buses are nicely air-conditioned. You can take them, even if you do not speak any Portuguese. Get in, pay the driver (who will even speak a bit of English), and grab a seat. Then, when you see a point where you want to get off, either get up and walk to the front or pull the rip-chord next to the window. The whole thing is very convenient and very safe. The buses leave 2 to 3 times per hour.

I will never take a taxi from the airport again. Remember, the difference in price is about 5 caipirinhas or two sessions at VM ;).
euro
I arrived in Rio back in September on a Sunday morning. I went outside on the arrivals level and did not see any buses. Taxi driver comes up and tells me that the bus doesn't run on Sundays because the traffic on Avenida Atlantica is flowing in the opposite direction that day. I believed him so I went upstairs and took a metered cab.

Does anybody know if the R6 airport bus to Copacabana runs on Sundays??? I am going back to Rio in November and am arriving again on a Sunday morning. I would really like to take this bus, as I ended up paying R45 in a metered cab to get to Posto 3 last time - seemed like the taxi driver was trying to take the long way or something.

Sperto
10-02-08, 08:00
I arrived in Rio back in September on a Sunday morning. I went outside on the arrivals level and did not see any buses. Taxi driver comes up and tells me that the bus doesn't run on Sundays because the traffic on Avenida Atlantica is flowing in the opposite direction that day. I believed him so I went upstairs and took a metered cab.
Does anybody know if the R6 airport bus to Copacabana runs on Sundays???
Yes, of course the Real airport bus goes on Sundays as well. While Av Atlántica is partly closed it runs on Rabata Ribeiro.

The taxi driver just fooled the gringo. ;)

Exec Talent
10-02-08, 12:48
I would really like to take this bus, as I ended up paying R45 in a metered cab to get to Posto 3 last time - seemed like the taxi driver was trying to take the long way or something.

R$45 is not a bad rate. At most, you overpaid R$5. Some rental agencies, GringoManagement, for example, charge R$65. Now that is a rip off.

Doc Simp
10-02-08, 13:25
I arrived in Rio back in September on a Sunday morning. I went outside on the arrivals level and did not see any buses. Taxi driver comes up and tells me that the bus doesn't run on Sundays because the traffic on Avenida Atlantica is flowing in the opposite direction that day. I believed him so I went upstairs and took a metered cab.

Does anybody know if the R6 airport bus to Copacabana runs on Sundays??? I am going back to Rio in November and am arriving again on a Sunday morning. I would really like to take this bus, as I ended up paying R45 in a metered cab to get to Posto 3 last time - seemed like the taxi driver was trying to take the long way or something.I paid 38 coming in, and 35 going out per meter.

Jan 156
10-02-08, 19:04
Jealousy of girls with each other is really funny to watch, once they have their hooks into you, they are very territorial. At least for that night. Once you make a selection, its almost impossible to change your mind and pick another without a scene so select wisely.

'Funny' isn't quite the word I'd use but I know what you mean! A lot of it is down to the culture (both generally and for programma) and the competitive market-trader instinct. But it can also be quite a heartbreaking thing. Some girls will manage as best they can on a frugal lifestyle and maybe go to Help once or twice a month when their income is in dire straits. If she works hard for an hour or sometimes several hours and then another girl 'steals' her prospective buyer, it's quite a big thing. It means she will have to make another foray on another night in all probability, pay the entrance fee and have money for drinks, and maybe live hand-to-mouth in the meantime.

I would guess a majority of girls in Help are more hard-eyed entrepeneurs, knowing how to balance their books and eager not to let any opportunity fall through their grasp. But not all tears are crocodile ones. And if you comfort a 'part-timer' girl who has been upstaged in this manner it can even lead to a caring relationship.

Of course, to an occasional visitor, I can see how it is amusing - unless you lose out. I got stuck once after chatting to a lovely country girl and had got the price down to something reasonable. Upon which her more hardened city friends not only berated me for trying to 'take advantage' of her, but expressed furious jealousy on her behalf when I tried to talk to someone else! (I believe the only way out of such situations is to continue to assert a calm and genuine moral superiority.)

Try it at VM, and the jealousy is more muted (understandably - the stakes aren't so high). The miffed girl might just refuse you future business. If a girl there gets really angry she might start throwing chairs instead of invective, but the only times I've seen that it has been to keep the peace (usually to make a drunk American stand down) rather than argue with another girl.

In Help they can give full vent to the range of telenovela histrionics. Whereas in the fast turnover places it is more a case of jiggling about to digest hurt pride. A lovely girl on the 2nd floor of BA85 always tries this with me. I used to see her regularly and occasionally give her a tip. But then I refused on the grounds that the cubicles on the 2nd floor are a disgrace, worse than anything in VM. Every time I pass she knows I want her but has to be huffy cos she knows I won't do it in her pigsty.

Jan 156
10-02-08, 19:22
R$45 is not a bad rate. At most, you overpaid R$5.

If you really want a taxi from the airport (for instance, your flight arrives at midnight and the place where you want to stay otherwise involves a walk) you can get a prepaid but overpriced one from the booths as you come out of security. But my first shot would usually be the arrival concourse upstairs where they are more appreciative of getting a fare back into town.

Haggling on the return journey to the airport is often easier. I got it down to 30R last year from Copa and felt if I had got it any lower I would have been cheating him. This year, from Centro, I was a bit loathe to pay even that much as the distance is so much less.

For me, it's mostly a case of how much of a rush I'm in. The buses are pretty frequent and a taxi only trims so much. And what are you going to spend your remaining reis on at the airport??

Rio Bob
10-02-08, 20:42
R$45 is not a bad rate. At most, you overpaid R$5. Some rental agencies, GringoManagement, for example, charge R$65. Now that is a rip off.

Not that I am advocating that someone should pay extra for a taxi ride to Copa from the airport but this is what you get for the 10 dollar difference by using Gringo Management's airport pick up service:

1: Someone waiting for you when you arrive to help with your luggage(He has to pay for parking, some may like the help after a long flight, others could care less) Also this is a brand new large car by Brazilian standards, no markings of a taxi, so you don't look like a gringo tourist coming in for vacation.

2: As you are driving to your apartment he is in contact with the rental agent point person who has the key to your apartment, letting them know of your position so that when you get to the apartment the person is there with the key. This is convenient, I've heard stories of other rental agencies where you have to go to the office and wait sometimes hours for someone to take you to your apartment.

Exec Talent
10-02-08, 21:35
Not that I am advocating that someone should pay extra for a taxi ride to Copa from the airport but this is what you get for the 10 dollar difference by using Gringo Management's airport pick up service:

1: Someone waiting for you when you arrive to help with your luggage(He has to pay for parking, some may like the help after a long flight, others could care less) Also this is a brand new large car by Brazilian standards, no markings of a taxi, so you don't look like a gringo tourist coming in for vacation.

2: As you are driving to your apartment he is in contact with the rental agent point person who has the key to your apartment, letting them know of your position so that when you get to the apartment the person is there with the key. This is convenient, I've heard stories of other rental agencies where you have to go to the office and wait sometimes hours for someone to take you to your apartment.

I know several agencies who provide the same service (and having ENGLISH speaking drivers and ENGLISH speaking onsite representatives) for free when you rent an apartment from them.

Rio Bob
10-02-08, 21:50
I know several agencies who provide the same service (and having ENGLISH speaking drivers and ENGLISH speaking onsite representatives) for free when you rent an apartment from them.

For free? So all these English speaking drivers and English speaking onsite representatives work for free and have to pay for their own gas and spend their time without getting paid to pick you up at the airport? Wow how did you find such a find? Next you'll be telling us you got the apartment for free, leave it to you man, good find.

Exec Talent
10-02-08, 22:03
For free? So all these English speaking drivers and English speaking onsite representatives work for free and have to pay for their own gas? Wow how did you find such a find? Next you'll be telling us you got the apartment for free, leave it to you man, good find.

It is amazing the deals that can be had when you come more than once every five years. You can even get well above market rates when exchanging dollars.

I look forward to hearing from you again when you actually are in or have been in Rio. Things have changed a lot since 2004.

Jan 156
10-02-08, 23:27
For free? So all these English speaking drivers and English speaking onsite representatives work for free and have to pay for their own gas and spend their time without getting paid to pick you up at the airport? Wow how did you find such a find?

Guys, let's not have another round of GringoMngmt wars, eh? SB's right enough in the sense that lots of agencies and hotels will charge a little extra for those that want to pay it. And EC's right that if you don't want to pay it you can also elect to find cheaper ways of doing things.


Next you'll be telling us you got the apartment for free, leave it to you man, good find.
Errm . . . well I could say the same thing, inasmuch as a friend has offered his relative's apartment to me free of charge while he's away and I'm there for Carnaval. I'm not saying I'll take it, cos it could cause ruptures if the neighbours tell him of all the people I take back, and anyway I want to be in Centro, not Copa, for Carnaval. But, unlike a paltry 10$ hike for some nominal extra service, just as you would get in the US or Europe maybe, an apartment there at that time would save me a whack. A lot more than the R40 or so my landlady would let me have it for at any other time of the year! But ET's right, a case of who you have built up relationships with can go a long way; and there again it's not that useful a piece of info to someone arriving cold.

Let's use the board for keeping options open. A lot of people would think some of the ways I choose to spend are wasteful. Other would put it down to personal taste.

Rock Harders
10-02-08, 23:38
Mongers-
I go to Rio just about every month (not difficult living in Buenos Aires) and I almost always have Bruno from Gringo Management pick me up at the airport. I prefer having someone I can trust waiting for me when I am arriving carrying several thousand dollars in cash along with an IPhone and other valuable items. Last time my girlfriend insisted on picking me up at the airport, so we took a "radio" taxi and it was somewhere around R$55. If she is at school or work when I arrive, I have Bruno waiting for me, for R$65. I really do not give a shit about a $5 or $10 USD difference, and I know that having Bruno there allows me to pull R$1000 from the ATM at the airport and not worry about having that or the other valuables I brought with me in jeopardy.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

Rio Bob
10-03-08, 00:07
It is amazing the deals that can be had when you come more than once every five years. You can even get well above market rates when exchanging dollars.

I look forward to hearing from you again when you actually are in or have been in Rio. Things have changed a lot since 2004.

Well, I'll be there soon enough but I have been there many times since 2004 and have attemped to meet you as you know but you never show up, what do you have to hide?

I'll tell you something else, you don't have to be such a frequent traveller to Rio to get free rides to the airport, many websites advertise this. I usually get free rides from my amigas especially going back to the airport but coming in to town I usually decline their offers because I like my space and don't mind spending the few extra bucks.

Things have changed a lot since 2004? You stupid ass, I have been going to Rio since 1980, you want to talk about change? you know nothing.

Azn Safado
10-03-08, 00:25
Yes, of course the Real airport bus goes on Sundays as well. While Av Atlántica is partly closed it runs on Rabata Ribeiro.

The taxi driver just fooled the gringo. ;)
Cool, I guess I must have missed the bus since it comes 2 to 3 times an hour. Thanks!

Sperto
10-03-08, 06:19
Also this is a brand new large car by Brazilian standards, no markings of a taxi, so you don't look like a gringo tourist coming in for vacation.
The taxis at the airport only takes gringo tourists as passengers?

Exec Talent
10-03-08, 07:44
If she is at school or work when I arrive, I have Bruno waiting for me, for R$65. I really do not give a shit about a $5 or $10 USD difference, and I know that having Bruno there allows me to pull R$1000 from the ATM at the airport and not worry about having that or the other valuables I brought with me in jeopardy.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

The last person I would take advice from is someone "who pulls R$1000 from the ATM at the airport ..."

When not staying at an apartment which offers free airport transportation, I too have a driver pick me up at the airport. However, I pay the standard metered rate which is around R$40 - R$45. I do not pay a premium for some gringo supposedly managing things from afar.

Get smart people. Some guys have been ripping you off from day one. And, not only you, everyone they deal with. If it makes some of you feel better to insist on rationalizing overpaying, and regularly getting ripped off, go right ahead; knock yourselves out.

Sperto
10-03-08, 08:57
Arriving in Rio.
Not all of us have people that will pick us up at the airport.
As we already knows the cheapest option is the Real bus. The second cheapest option would be taking a taxi up at the arrival section. This could be complicated if there happens to be a guarda standing there. The taxi drivers can get in trouble if the guarda notes that he's picking up passengers at the arrival section.

Leaving Rio.
For me taking the Real bus isn't an option when leaving Rio. Mainly because I don't want to stand sweating (wearing clothes suitable for travelling) on Av Atlántica waiting for the Real bus which might not be in time or even worse might miss to stop and pick you up.
A better option is just to hail a taxi on Av NS Copacabana. Ask the driver through the window if he will go to Galeão for the price you offer. The driver will not be in a good situation to negotiate as there will be a lot of drivers and buses behind him blasting their horns. He'll propably accept your price. That way it's not a problem finding a taxi that goes from Copa, Posto 6, to the airport charging R$ 30.
Often the drivers turn out to be really nice guys to chat with resulting in a R$ 5 tip. Everybody is happy! :)

Rock Harders
10-03-08, 10:04
Mongers-
Exec Talent must be a really high rolling executive if he whines and complains about a difference of $5-$10 USD from a metered/radio taxi compared to paying Bruno R$65 for an airport pickup. You can substitute Bruno for any driver similiar to him, it doesn't make a difference and it certaintly does not have to be him specifically, just a big Brasilian guy who knows what he is doing. I know that I can pay slightly less for a arguably less secure and conveniant ride, but the small amount of money means nothing to me. As for pulling R$1000 from the ATM at the airport, R$1000 is the maximum the machine will allow and keep in mind that it is much more secure to pull cash from the airport, with Bruno watching my back, than to go searching by myself after dark for some ATM that is actually open on Avenida Copacabana. When I go to Rio it's for business and/or to enjoy my time either mongering or with my regular Brasilian girlfriend and I never cheap out on pussy, food, accomodations or transportation just to say a few dollars. I will never understand mongers who want to spend R$1 per minute for pussy, stay in a fleabag hotel or have a nervous breakdown about saving $10 USD on a ride to the airport.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

Piper1
10-03-08, 10:08
I will never understand mongers who want to spend R$1 per minute for pussy ...Does one have to keep getting up and putting a coin the slot in every minute? That would really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off.

Sperto
10-03-08, 11:25
I will never understand mongers who want to spend R$1 per minute for pussy, stay in a fleabag hotel or have a nervous breakdown about saving $10 USD on a ride to the airport.
Well, all of us can't be "kings"...

About R$ 1 per minute. The quality of bunda doesn't stand in proportion to what you pay.

It's not a matter of not being able to afford or being cheap. It's just that I would feel like a sucker and real looser if I overpay. It doesn't matter if I buy apples, a beer on the beach, rent an apartment, take a taxi or pay for sex.

In Copa there are gringos being fooled all the time. When they rent apartments, take taxis, rent beach-chairs, overpay Help-girls etc.
Does their spending impress me? No.
Do I feel sorry for them? No. The brazilians propably need the money better.
What other people spend on their holiday is just not of interest to me.

Exec Talent
10-03-08, 12:06
Mongers-
Exec Talent must be a really high rolling executive if he whines and complains about a difference of $5-$10 USD from a metered/radio taxi compared to paying Bruno R$65 for an airport pickup. You can substitute Bruno for any driver similiar to him, it doesn't make a difference and it certaintly does not have to be him specifically, just a big Brasilian guy who knows what he is doing. I know that I can pay slightly less for a arguably less secure and conveniant ride, but the small amount of money means nothing to me. As for pulling R$1000 from the ATM at the airport, R$1000 is the maximum the machine will allow and keep in mind that it is much more secure to pull cash from the airport, with Bruno watching my back, than to go searching by myself after dark for some ATM that is actually open on Avenida Copacabana. When I go to Rio it's for business and/or to enjoy my time either mongering or with my regular Brasilian girlfriend and I never cheap out on pussy, food, accomodations or transportation just to say a few dollars. I will never understand mongers who want to spend R$1 per minute for pussy, stay in a fleabag hotel or have a nervous breakdown about saving $10 USD on a ride to the airport.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

I am a little busy. I hear there is some exciting stuff going on in the US Financial Markets right now.

If you enjoy getting ripped off at every turn, go for it. I am just trying to warn others not to follow your example.

Later, a lot more on how not to get managed by a gringo and who in Rio you can trust to really have your back. Hint -- they are NOT people taking advantage of you from afar.

Acenva
10-03-08, 12:18
Mongers-
I will never understand mongers who want to spend R$1 per minute for pussy, stay in a fleabag hotel or have a nervous breakdown about saving $10 USD on a ride to the airport.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

This is what you will find in Help asking for R200 to R250 a night... So I guess the more you pay the better the pussy??? I wounder if I could find some good pussy in VM. I bet some of the same girls who work Help work BA85 or VM and the same ones who work the terma's go to VM to work from time to time..

Acenva
10-03-08, 12:25
Found her at Villa also... Have fun in the high end places, I like those also just as much as take out from high end to low end places..
I will come back down on the 4th of November and cast my vote for President of the 4X4 club. There are 99 GDP's that are running and I can do as they do in Chicago cum early and often...

PS I also moved my logo over so those who want to see the face can..

Ace

Sperto
10-03-08, 14:09
Girls working both at VM and Help. That occurs every now and then. Acenva just gave a perfect example. I rather take the girl at VM paying a fraction of the price she would charge at Help.

I would estimate that 4/5 of my regular Rio-buddies loves VM. The last 1/5 think VM is fun but rather takes a girl at Help.

What can the reasons be for a guy rather taking Miss X at Help, paying R$ 150-300, than having the same Miss X at VM for the price of R$ 26?
I guess some of the reasons might be:
1. Comfort. He prefers bringing the girl back to his apartment/hotel instead of having sex in a cabin at VM.
2. Time. Bringing her home he might get several pops without stress. At VM when the bell rings you'll have about two minutes to shoot.
Note: No 1 and 2 can be solved by bringing the VM girl to Hotel Canário down the road. Increases the cost to R$ 50+25=75.
3. Selection. At Help you have less girls working but they will be all around you. You don't have to get your newly polished shoes dirty walking in the alleys of VM.
4. Romance. At VM you speak with the girl, check out her assets, agree on the session and off you go. Plain and simple. At Help the guys can fool themselves that they are picking up the girls because they are so charming and handsome. Dancing, buying drinks and walking home hand in hand like a couple in love. Very cute!
5. The environment. Not everybody appreciate the simple surroundings of VM. Dirty street, noisy, blasting funk and half-naked women walking around. They rather feel more at home in Help with music they recognice, clean surroundings and other gringos around them.
6. Language barrier. It doesn't take any portuguese knowledge at all to pick up a girl at Help. At VM you must at least be able to say "vamos".
7. Security. The guys fool themselves that the surrounding of Help are safer than the surroundings at VM.

Ricker
10-03-08, 16:17
Well, all of us can't be "kings"...

About R$ 1 per minute. The quality of bunda doesn't stand in proportion to what you pay.

It's not a matter of not being able to afford or being cheap. It's just that I would feel like a sucker and real looser if I overpay. It doesn't matter if I buy apples, a beer on the beach, rent an apartment, take a taxi or pay for sex.

In Copa there are gringos being fooled all the time. When they rent apartments, take taxis, rent beach-chairs, overpay Help-girls etc.
Does their spending impress me? No.
Do I feel sorry for them? No. The brazilians propably need the money better.
What other people spend on their holiday is just not of interest to me.

Very well put. It's not the amount, it's trying to be fooled that I don't like.
I tip well for good service but balk at being over-charged or cheated.

Rio Bob
10-03-08, 16:19
Girls working both at VM and Help. That occurs every now and then. Acenva just gave a perfect example. I rather take the girl at VM paying a fraction of the price she would charge at Help.

I would estimate that 4/5 of my regular Rio-buddies loves VM. The last 1/5 think VM is fun but rather takes a girl at Help.

What can the reasons be for a guy rather taking Miss X at Help, paying R$ 150-300, than having the same Miss X at VM for the price of R$ 26?
I guess some of the reasons might be:
1. Comfort. He prefers bringing the girl back to his apartment/hotel instead of having sex in a cabin at VM. Agree
2. Time. Bringing her home he might get several pops without stress. At VM when the bell rings you'll have about two minutes to shoot. Agree
Note: No 1 and 2 can be solved by bringing the VM girl to Hotel Canário down the road. Increases the cost to R$ 50+25=75.
3. Selection. At Help you have less girls working but they will be all around you. You don't have to get your newly polished shoes dirty walking in the alleys of VM.Agree
4. Romance. At VM you speak with the girl, check out her assets, agree on the session and off you go. Plain and simple. At Help the guys can fool themselves that they are picking up the girls because they are so charming and handsome. Dancing, buying drinks and walking home hand in hand like a couple in love. Very cute!Agree, It's a night out and you get lucky for a price of course
5. The environment. Not everybody appreciate the simple surroundings of VM. Dirty street, noisy, blasting funk and half-naked women walking around. They rather feel more at home in Help with music they recognice, clean surroundings and other gringos around them.Agree
6. Language barrier. It doesn't take any portuguese knowledge at all to pick up a girl at Help. At VM you must at least be able to say "vamos".Disagree, you have to say Vamos also in Help, plus it helps with negotiating and it helps to be able to have small talk with her especially if you're going to spend several hours with her, it really helps to speak a basic or intermediate Portuguese.
7. Security. The guys fool themselves that the surrounding of Help are safer than the surroundings at VMThe surrounding area around Help is not safe, everybody should know this .

Good analysis of the different style of mongering, I agree with most, my comments in RED

Perkele
10-03-08, 18:23
Very well put. It's not the amount, it's trying to be fooled that I don't like.
I tip well for good service but balk at being over-charged or cheated.

I used to tip, but since I've been living here for a quite some time I'n not tipping anymore. Its not expected and everybody is happy.

Actually many people think that I'm from south Brasil, since I act more like brasilians.

So if you leave Copa (or any other turist area anywhere) its ok not to tip.

Jan 156
10-03-08, 18:40
In Copa there are gringos being fooled all the time. When they rent apartments, take taxis, rent beach-chairs, overpay Help-girls etc.

It's quite so. I think there's several sorts of 'tax' - eg -

1) gringo tax
You're expected to pay more cos you can't hold a conversation, you talk loudly as if you own the world, and you generally act like a 'doofus'.
2) ignorance tax
This is levied on top of gringo tax to newbies who haven't got a clue what the correct price is.
3) fantasy tax
This is a Copa/Ipa tax. You are living in fantasy land and things come more expensive. It's part of the game. You can haggle a girl who works in BA85 to deduct the gringo/ignorance tax, but she generally won't be seen dead removing all the fantasy tax when she's dressed up for gringoland.

And much as I'm more likely to pay her Centro rates or a bit more for an overnight, occasionally I like the thrill of fantasy land, especially in the 'dangerous' bars around Prado/Min.Viv.d.Castro. Breakfast rates are the best - after a night of drinking, dancing, carousing and singing. And if she's too drunk/too busy/too sober I'll go to the gym till other options surface <g>

Dwilso39
10-03-08, 22:40
Girls working both at VM and Help. That occurs every now and then. Acenva just gave a perfect example. I rather take the girl at VM paying a fraction of the price she would charge at Help.

I would estimate that 4/5 of my regular Rio-buddies loves VM. The last 1/5 think VM is fun but rather takes a girl at Help.

What can the reasons be for a guy rather taking Miss X at Help, paying R$ 150-300, than having the same Miss X at VM for the price of R$ 26?

I guess some of the reasons might be:

1. Comfort. He prefers bringing the girl back to his apartment/hotel instead of having sex in a cabin at VM.

2. Time. Bringing her home he might get several pops without stress. At VM when the bell rings you'll have about two minutes to shoot.

Note: No 1 and 2 can be solved by bringing the VM girl to Hotel Canário down the road. Increases the cost to R$ 50+25=75.

3. Selection. At Help you have less girls working but they will be all around you. You don't have to get your newly polished shoes dirty walking in the alleys of VM.

4. Romance. At VM you speak with the girl, check out her assets, agree on the session and off you go. Plain and simple. At Help the guys can fool themselves that they are picking up the girls because they are so charming and handsome. Dancing, buying drinks and walking home hand in hand like a couple in love. Very cute!

5. The environment. Not everybody appreciate the simple surroundings of VM. Dirty street, noisy, blasting funk and half-naked women walking around. They rather feel more at home in Help with music they recognice, clean surroundings and other gringos around them.

6. Language barrier. It doesn't take any portuguese knowledge at all to pick up a girl at Help. At VM you must at least be able to say "vamos".

7. Security. The guys fool themselves that the surrounding of Help are safer than the surroundings at VM.Sir, you are soo on point. The question I have is are guys more satisfied witht he pussy from Help vs. VM?

Dwilso39
10-03-08, 23:02
It's quite so. I think there's several sorts of 'tax' - eg -

1) gringo tax
You're expected to pay more cos you can't hold a conversation, you talk loudly as if you own the world, and you generally act like a 'doofus'.
2) ignorance tax
This is levied on top of gringo tax to newbies who haven't got a clue what the correct price is.
3) fantasy tax
This is a Copa/Ipa tax. You are living in fantasy land and things come more expensive. It's part of the game. You can haggle a girl who works in BA85 to deduct the gringo/ignorance tax, but she generally won't be seen dead removing all the fantasy tax when she's dressed up for gringoland.

And much as I'm more likely to pay her Centro rates or a bit more for an overnight, occasionally I like the thrill of fantasy land, especially in the 'dangerous' bars around Prado/Min.Viv.d.Castro. Breakfast rates are the best - after a night of drinking, dancing, carousing and singing. And if she's too drunk/too busy/too sober I'll go to the gym till other options surface <g>Chirs:

Man, you are soo one point. I've experinced the second two taxes that these are my stories:

Ignorace tax. Paid "driver" $65R for ride from airport (real bus is $7r, and will get there just as fast because of traffic); paid "dirver" $150r for roundtrip ride to Chirsto de Remeder;

Ignorace/Fantasy Tax (this was a double tax).Paid GDP $140R for two hours at 5pm from MP

Fantansy Tax. Meet a girl in Help that only wanted to "hang-out" and took here to the apt. Ask for price and got a kiss. In the moring, GDP demanded $250R!

My take: I think the only one that should never happen is the Gringo Tax. Respect for others is the "simple" loop-hole for this tax. As for the other two: iI believe they are unavoidable at some time, and at some level.

There is a street saying that says: "the game is made for everyone"; meaing even con men get conned; theives get robbed; and scammers get scammner. This is just the nature of being in a new envoicrment. So, I had to take all of the above incidents as "expensive lessons".

The one thing that I'm firm on is that being taxed for either igonrance, or fantasy will not deter me from have new explorations. If one is dead set on either one of these "never" happening, people would never go any where; becuaes not matter how much you know, how much you research, there might be some one already a step ahead.

One aside: I went to Rio for the first time in April, and in each of these "tax" sistuations, I had a Rio vet either give me the persons contact info, or help me negoitate the situation. Got me to wondering if they have been paying the "ignorance" tax for so long they think it's NORMAL. Hummm.

Lorenzo
10-04-08, 03:24
The second cheapest option would be taking a taxi up at the arrival section. This could be complicated if there happens to be a guarda standing there. The taxi drivers can get in trouble if the guarda notes that he's picking up passengers at the arrival section.
Don't you mean the departure section? The arrival section is on the ground level where all the taxis are lined up to pick up arriving passengers.

Shoesky
10-04-08, 04:26
Sperto tells it like it is! I enjoyed your advice. My question is how far is VM form copa? How much by taxi? I can only agree more with your perspective on Help. Most of the woman at Help create an illiusion like they are truly interested in the gringo. The reality is they are strictly buisness. Infact most of the woman try to get more money out of the the gringo for a sub par performance. I have had better luck at Balcony.

When I come back to Rio in November I want to spend more time at VM.

If any members can advise me on an apartment to rent in places other than copa and Ipanema, I'm all ears.

Thanks

Sperto
10-04-08, 09:57
Don't you mean the departure section?
Sorry, my mistake. Thanks.

Prosal
10-04-08, 12:14
I used to tip, but since I've been living here for a quite some time I'n not tipping anymore. Its not expected and everybody is happy. Actually many people think that I'm from south Brasil, since I act more like brasilians. So if you leave Copa (or any other turist area anywhere) its ok not to tip.
Nonsense. These principles of Perkele's are for Perkele only and any of his -numerous- twin brother cheap mongers out there, but they sure aint for upper-middle class and upper class brasilian people. When I read them, to me, they are a joke.

Go in any hip club in Rio like Nuth, Baronetti, Bombar, ect or dine in Aprazível, Fasano Al Mare, Olympe, Olivier Cozanor, ect and you'll see that most clients LARGELY tip. Same in the cosmopolitan bowels (upscale restaurants, hip cafes, glam clubs, ect) of Sao Paulo, Curitiba, P.A, Goiania, Brasilia, ect.

The reason is *status*. Brasil is definitely a status-conscious and class society where you want/need to show everybody which class you are in. Particularly by going out in expensive places. Particularly by being "recognized" and treated by the staff. And particularly by largely tipping.

Obviously despite you "live here for a quite some time and act more like brasilians" you don't understand nor the brasilian status system nor brasilian people.

Sperto
10-04-08, 13:03
10 reasons to be a VM-fan.

1. The price. Paying R$ 26 instead of R$ 150-300.

2. The quantity. There are supposed to be about 1500 women working at VM. Maybe 10-20% are doable and 2% are gems. With such a large number of women working there it doesn't matter if the majority are ugly, there are always beautiful girls to be found. Just search and have patience.

3. No surprises. You get just what you agreed on. BBBJ, CBJ, HJ, anal etc. The only surprise you might risk is that the people downstairs will ring the bell too early. That can be avoided by pointing out the time to the cashier before you head upstairs.

4. Variety. The variety of VM is like the menu at McDonalds. You find just about everything to cover anybodys taste or desire. You want a skinny girl, a fatty, a dwarf, a giant, spanking, an innocent girl, a hardcore girl, a girl of 18 years, a woman of 60 years, a white, a brown, a black, an indian, a lesbian, a girl dressed as a nurse, a nun, a police, schooluniform, devilscostume etc. Almost like in the bar "Titty Twister" in the movie "From dusk to dawn" ("P***y, p***y, pussy! All p***y must go. We got... etc..."). As most girls are wearing very few clothes you check out her goods before closing a deal.

5. No Fantasyland. VM is for real. No girls faking that they will have sex with you for no other reason than those R$ 26.

6. Entertainment. VM is fun! Sit down, have a beer, enjoy some funk and just observe the people. That beats sitting outside Help on TA. You'll see many interesting characters.

7. 24 hs. OK, at least during 12 hs you'll find a good selection at VM. VM is good for day and evening-mongering. Perfect if you have regular girls to meet in the evening.

8. Accessibility. A quick bus/metro-ride and you'll be at VM. You do some alleywalking. Find a hot girl. Have a session and head back home. Very convenient.

9. Sleazy. Sleazy is fun! Just as I enjoy fancy clubs and robe-termas I enjoy sleazy places. Mongering without any sleazy places is like food without spices. Not that I enjoy stained sheets, small beds, not being able to shower right after having sex or being customer number 16. Well, that's a part of the game at VM. Also there are casas with decent cabins and working AC. If you're lucky you might even be allowed to take a shower. If you arrive around 5 PM and do a early pick you might have the privilege of being the first customer of the day.

10. Jackpot! Searching for gems is fun. You walk the alleys and check out the casas. You scan the girls and find candidates for earning your R$ 26 and suddenly you just find a hot stunner that makes you go "Wow".

Jan 156
10-04-08, 16:26
the question i have is are guys more satisfied witht he pussy from help vs. vm?


the first few times i went to rio, i had awesome experiences from help all-nighters but then i didn't have much to compare it with. i think possibly it was better values years ago too. looking back now, i can't think of a single help girl experience that compares with the best of experiences with vm girls. well bar one, actually, but that was a girl i met at help and chatted up and lived with for a bit and she never cost me a dime.

the thing with vm (apart from the great list sperto just mentioned) is quantity. for every diamond-in-the-rough, i've gone through a quantity of awful ones and a good percentage of so-so ones (inc a few gfe ones - it happens occasionally, even at vm). but when you can spend all night there and refresh between shots it's a whole different game. i'd almost prefer tto have a mediocre girl to whet my whistle as it doesn't spoil my appetite for the rest of the evening.

re the questions from shoesky - vm is a whole new learning curve, so take it at your own speed. travelling times vary, but it's a whole lot longer from copa than centro, whether by bus or taxi. i like the isabel end of copa as there's plenty of fast buses to vm 24hrs a day (but avoid rush hour). there's a bus going a different route from the help area but it tends to be more hairy on occasion. to rent apartments outside of copa/ipa/bota, the best is newspaper ads. best area for vm is alphonso pena. but you need porto for that. alternatively get a hotel in centro, eg the praca tiradentes area which is a short trip to vm and close to lapa - there's tourist-friendly hotels like ibis or brasil-style ones (not on the net) at half the price.

but step one is checking you can blend a bit. get your brasilian cheapo- clothing together, get rid of stand-out removables (bulky cameras, wallets etc), learn to carry only as much money as you need in small notes and spread over different pockets, drop the loud voice or tendency to talk a lot if you have these, especially if you do that stand-out thing and go with another gringo; basically, learn how to fade into the background. practice eye-contact stuff if you've no porto, maybe carry your own condoms, and don't visit vm after filling up on fejoiada unless you know exactly where you are going to get a toilet and toilet paper <g>

Sperto
10-04-08, 16:58
... and don't visit VM after filling up on fejoiada unless you know exactly where you are going to get a toilet and toilet paper
THAT must be a hard mission, finding a decent toilet at VM with toilet paper.

Jan 156
10-04-08, 17:31
THAT must be a hard mission, finding a decent toilet at VM with toilet paper.

I only know one where both items come together ;)

Ryjerrob
10-04-08, 19:17
10 reasons to be a VM-fan.

9. Sleazy. Sleazy is fun!


Isn't the whole mongering thing sleazy. I love sleazy women. It's kinda like doing something that's taboo!!! When you tell people who've never been to VM, let alone Brasil, that can't believe it. An doing a girl in those closet sized rooms with with no AC, and just fucking like dogs.................it's to die for!!!

ryjer

Rock Harders
10-04-08, 20:29
Mongers-
Vila Mimosa is essentially the same cheap assembly line sex that is available at the various casas in Medellin or the thousands of $40 pesos privados in Buenos Aires. Generally undesirable women (always diamonds in the rough though, and more likely to find 18-19 years olds for guys who are into that), unsanitary fucking conditions, girls who are not likely to provide GFE. These types of places serve their purpose and get it done for some people, it just so happens that I am not one of those people who enjoy low-end, on-site sex environments.
Help, on the other hand, has always been an enjoyable experience and the best gems in Rio can be had there IMO. The drink prices are dirt cheap compared to places like Barbarelas, or Black, Madahos, and La Lopez in Buenos Aires. Help is stocked with at least 80% undesirable women on any given night, sometimes more, and generally these are the same undesirable women there night after night. I do not even look at or consider taking out these girls; these are the hardcore pros that do this for a living 24/7/365. The magic of Help is the presence of part-timers, that come to work one day every few weeks or months, the girls that define the fine line between promiscuous and prostitution in Brasil. Every time I have pulled a girl out of Help it has been one of these "once in a while" girls. These girls are always 26 or less, 8.5 or better, generally have no children, have regular jobs and/or are studying. A large number of these girls speak English and maybe even Spanish, have a education level high enough to be interesting enough to spend an entire night or weekend with, and are not spotted as GDP's when out on the town. These girls also are much more likely to do BBFS if you are have what it takes to talk them into it. I have met and pulled only a handful of this level of garota in Help, and they don't come cheap (R$ 300), but they have been well worth the fee.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

Jan 156
10-04-08, 21:02
Conversely, I think the opposite about Buenos Aires as I do about RJ on the whole. The top end there are unbelievable, out of this world. The cheapos you mention don't compare IMO to VM in many ways, but principally in attitude. Availability is the only thing in their favour and not worth travelling to BA for. But I guess everyone's eexperience is different and I'd agree about part-timers being a more desirable option in Help. On the whole though - not just when it comes to sex - I'd say BA has almost a monopoly on class and sophistication in South America. But no-one can kick ass the way a carioca girl can :-)


Mongers-
Vila Mimosa is essentially the same cheap assembly line sex that is available at the various casas in Medellin or the thousands of $40 pesos privados in Buenos Aires. Generally undesirable women (always diamonds in the rough though, and more likely to find 18-19 years olds for guys who are into that), unsanitary fucking conditions, girls who are not likely to provide GFE. These types of places serve their purpose and get it done for some people, it just so happens that I am not one of those people who enjoy low-end, on-site sex environments.
Help, on the other hand, has always been an enjoyable experience and the best gems in Rio can be had there IMO. The drink prices are dirt cheap compared to places like Barbarelas, or Black, Madahos, and La Lopez in Buenos Aires. Help is stocked with at least 80% undesirable women on any given night, sometimes more, and generally these are the same undesirable women there night after night. I do not even look at or consider taking out these girls; these are the hardcore pros that do this for a living 24/7/365. The magic of Help is the presence of part-timers, that come to work one day every few weeks or months, the girls that define the fine line between promiscuous and prostitution in Brasil. Every time I have pulled a girl out of Help it has been one of these "once in a while" girls. These girls are always 26 or less, 8.5 or better, generally have no children, have regular jobs and/or are studying. A large number of these girls speak English and maybe even Spanish, have a education level high enough to be interesting enough to spend an entire night or weekend with, and are not spotted as GDP's when out on the town. These girls also are much more likely to do BBFS if you are have what it takes to talk them into it. I have met and pulled only a handful of this level of garota in Help, and they don't come cheap (R$ 300), but they have been well worth the fee.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

Sperto
10-04-08, 21:37
The magic of Help is the presence of part-timers, that come to work one day every few weeks or months, the girls that define the fine line between promiscuous and prostitution in Brasil. Every time I have pulled a girl out of Help it has been one of these "once in a while" girls. These girls are always 26 or less, 8.5 or better, generally have no children, have regular jobs and/or are studying.Harders
RH, well said.

This is why Help is the "Fantasy land". Propably half of the girls at Help presents the story "I'm not really a h***er, I just come here once in a while to be able to support my kids/help my sick mother/pay my bills/pay my university fee's etc". This is just perfect. The guy and the girl have a session. The guy travels home with a nice memory of the wonderful brazilian women. He didn't f**k a h***er. He had sex with a regular girl and just supported her with R$ 300. The girl made some good money and can even take a few days off before she does the same trick over again. Everybody is happy! Help girls are not only sex-workers but also actresses.

I don't think there is anything wrong with this "Pretty woman"-romancing with a GP, dinners/buying flowers and walking home hand in hand at sunrise. It's just not my thing. I consider myself quite a romantic guy, but the romance part I take with non-pro's.

IMO sex is very available in Brazil, pro's and non-pro's. P4P in Brazil fulfills two purposes for me, it's fun and a quick and cheap way to fulfill a sexual need. Just like I need to eat, sleep or shit I also need to have sex. When I pay for sex I look for the right chemistry, good looks, nice body that turns me on and preferably a low price. That's it, and I'm satisfied.

I go to Help every now and then. When I want a change to the regular nightlife in Rio, then Help is a fun place to party with my buddies. I might take home a girl from Help, but I would never go inside Help with the intention "tonight I'm going to bring a girl home".

Note: Of course there are "real" part-timers at Help, just like you find at VM, the centro-casas and even at the pista on Av Atlántica.

Ee2002
10-04-08, 22:17
10 reasons to be a VM-fan.

9. Sleazy. Sleazy is fun! Just as I enjoy fancy clubs and robe-termas I enjoy sleazy places. Mongering without any sleazy places is like food without spices. Not that I enjoy stained sheets, small beds, not being able to shower right after having sex or being customer number 16. Well, that's a part of the game at VM. Also there are casas with decent cabins and working AC. If you're lucky you might even be allowed to take a shower. If you arrive around 5 PM and do a early pick you might have the privilege of being the first customer of the day..

I have been to VM a couple of times and didn't think it was that bad as far as talent. But me personally and most people I know can't get past reason #9. Cum stained sheets, no showers and fucking standing up is not that appealing. But for those that enjoy it more power to you, everyone has their standards or certain needs. The most important thing is that you are satisfied and walking away in one piece.

My question is how often or do the garotas shower? I experienced that nastiness in TJ, but after Rio my standards have risen as far as the #9 reason.

Wiild
10-04-08, 22:44
Nonsense. These principles of Perkele's are for Perkele only and any of his -numerous- twin brother cheap mongers out there, but they sure aint for upper-middle class and upper class brasilian people. When I read them, to me, they are a joke.

Is this really true? I spent a month in Porto Alegre in Southern Brazil 2 years ago and me and my Brazilian friends hardly tipped at all? just rounding up: 1-2% at most. Have things changed the last couple of years?

Wiild
10-04-08, 22:53
He he, I remember loving this part of the Help experience, the playing, teasing part.....I never really understood that you had to take a girl if you kissed her...so I kissed and really made out with lots of girls after buying them a drink then negotiating like silly knowing that she would not agree to let's say $10 for a whole night! :-)

Now I am coming back in early November, really looking forward to it! :-)


Help Friday. - Once you make a selection, its almost impossible to change your mind and pick another without a scene so select wisely. Another point someone made to me is if you kiss them. The unspoken message is you are taking them for the night.

Euro100
10-04-08, 23:43
... and don't visit VM after filling up on fejoiada unless you know exactly where you are going to get a toilet and toilet paper <g>
... who that comment was for :D. Ahhh, good times were had , good times ...

Bdonkadonk
10-05-08, 04:23
Thanks guys for all that you have been writing about VM! I have been to Rio three times and only frequented the Termas and help. I will definately check out VM next time in Rio! What makes me so interested is the quantity of girls to be found there, according to what I've been reading here. I'm always looking for those big and tempting bundas, and the more girls to choose from, the better, in my opinion!

Bunda Man
10-05-08, 04:34
Conversely, I think the opposite about Buenos Aires as I do about RJ on the whole. The top end there are unbelievable, out of this world. The cheapos you mention don't compare IMO to VM in many ways, but principally in attitude. . . .

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Am looking to try VM(for the first time) on my 4th Rio trip. From reading the board I know VM is not far from the Maracana Stadium, which I have been to before for a tour. Once I get to the stadium on linha 2 of the Metro, where can I find a cab to VM? The highway in front of the stadium is treacherous in terms of the cars flying bye and the shady characters hanging around. Is there another location? Thanks.

Sperto
10-05-08, 09:23
Once I get to the stadium on linha 2 of the Metro, where can I find a cab to VM?
Just get of at the station before Maracana, that is São Cristóvão. From there it's only a short walk to VM. If you don't want to walk any taxi passing by will take you there.

Actually we had a taxi driver once who refused to take us to VM, a female driver.

Ryjerrob
10-05-08, 13:29
Actually we had a taxi driver once who refused to take us to VM, a female driver.
I don't think I've ever seen a female taxi driver in Brasil.

Chi Town Hustler
10-05-08, 13:49
I don't think I've ever seen a female taxi driver in Brasil.


I had female taxi driver pick me up in Barra da Tijuca once she did radio in her destination.

Sperto
10-05-08, 14:22
I don't think I've ever seen a female taxi driver in Brasil.
She mentioned the number of female taxi drivers in Rio. I don't remember the exact number. 50 or so...?

I do know the exact number of female taxi drivers in Porto Velho, Rondônia. 3. One of them gave me a special service. :)

Perkele
10-05-08, 15:14
Is this really true? I spent a month in Porto Alegre in Southern Brazil 2 years ago and me and my Brazilian friends hardly tipped at all? just rounding up: 1-2% at most. Have things changed the last couple of years?
No!

Its just hard to an american to understand that tipping is not customary in most part of this planet.

Unlike USA in Brasil there is already 10% added on top of the bill. Thus no tipping is required nor expected.

You can't buy respect in Brasil.

Ryjerrob
10-05-08, 16:07
No!

Its just hard to an american to understand that tipping is not customary in most part of this planet.

Unlike USA in Brasil there is already 10% added on top of the bill. Thus no tipping is required nor expected.

You can't buy respect in Brasil.

Why do you sound so angry?????????? While
you grasp the concept that tipping is customary in America, then you lose me. I don't think people are trying to buy respect when they tip. Hell, the whole thing, while harmless, only gives us more things to argue about. But for the record, I see no reason to tip when a service charge is already added.

ryjer

Wiild
10-05-08, 16:32
I don't think Perkele is angry. My guess he is from Finland and Finnish people tend to be pretty "direct", it's the way they speak and write.

I see no harm of other people tipping when they don't have to, but I personally prefer tipping when it is expected/needed/ it gives me an advantage at the next visit.

In many places like China, South America or even Northern Europe I have found that they think you are strange when you tip, it's to your disadvantage if you tip.

In most places in China they simply give you back the tip when you leave as they think you lost/forgot the money at the table.

Ryjerrob
10-05-08, 16:38
I don't think Perkele is angry. My guess he is from Finland and Finnish people tend to be pretty "direct", it's the way they speak and write.

I see no harm of other people tipping when they don't have to, but I personally prefer tipping when it is expected/needed/ it gives me an advantage at the next visit.

In many places like China, South America or even Northern Europe I have found that they think you are strange when you tip, it's to your disadvantage if you tip.

In most places in China they simply give you back the tip when you leave as they think you lost/forgot the money at the table.

Gotcha.............

Jan 156
10-05-08, 17:53
It's just different customs. Americans see it as being nice and it's a big part of American culture - for instance, helping waitresses and bar staff earn a living (and often producing better service than in Europe). But in many parts of Europe it's seen as cute or a bit stupid, as if the Americans flashing the cash have no brains and just throw money away (I'm not saying this is right, just how it's seen). This then encourages greed and manipulation. It also makes other people (who are not giving big tips) feel bad. It can sway them against Americans as it soon feels like another example of American dominance, acting like a king.

The general guide is always to see how, when and how much locals tip.

I rarely tip in Brasil except for exceptional service or when someone has really gone out of their way.

In Japan, tipping is considered very rude. It implies that the worker is not very good, so probably isn't getting paid much. It's insulting. But Japanese people and institutions are nothing if not polite (ironically, similar in this respect to Americans in intention anyway!) Large hotels often have a tipping box at reception for Americans who feel obliged to tip, and a notice explaining that Japanese do not accept tips but if they wish to tip then the money will be given to charity.

Good will is not enough. An awareness of how it is received is essential, and if it is not received the way it is intended, that is not the recipient's fault.

Jamaicanceo
10-05-08, 23:46
Even though you said it I think it should be emphasized. In the US it is almost mandatory to tip waiters at least 15% because for the most part that is pretty much what they get paid. We do this for decent service, if service is really bad sure we hold back and if service is really good people tip more than 15% which is common.

Many Americans who travel to Europe or S. America don't realize that a service charge is included on their restaurant bill of 10 % and as a result might give the usual 15% that they give at home. I don't think the reason is to flash cash or try to be cute, it's done out of ignorance.

On the other hand when Europeans or S. Americans come to the US for a visit they don't tip waiters because they don't tip at home where service is included. But service is not included in the US and this is very annoying to US wait staff, they don't tip out of ignorance. Some places that have heavy Euro/S. American tourists like South Beach Miami now include a 15% service charge on the bill and everybody is happy except maybe the American tourist in South Beach who then double tips.

If young adults at some clubs in Rio or else where are over tipping it's because they're trying to make a statement. Like look at me I'm someone special and I can afford this because I'm shrewd or smart. They want to be treated special by the wait staff and or maybe attract women who are impressed by this. It has nothing to do with service.

But don't get me wrong when I used to go bar hopping around the city, many bartenders would tell me at the end of the night when I would ask for the check, they would say there is no check, same thing happens to me in South Beach now but then you have to juice them for sure.You are right about the tipping traditions of Americans and how Brazilians react to our tipping habits. I was raised by a waitress as a kid. My mom has hammered that I should always tip. So in Rio and elsewhere, I tip. In Rio thet tried to give it back or looked at me puzzled. A young lady in a Rio restaurant didn't know what to do with the money I handed her after I paid my bill. A local Brazilian explained to her what and why I did.

RonnyRon
10-06-08, 04:30
You are not in the US, you are in Brazil. I really don't understand why men who travel to Brazil do not realize they are in another country. Are we all, so desparate to be shot callers that we just fail to understand that in Rio there is no need to be? Enough said.

RR

Exec Talent
10-06-08, 06:18
You are not in the US, you are in Brazil. I really don't understand why men who travel to Brazil do not realize they are in another country. Are we all, so desparate to be shot callers that we just fail to understand that in Rio there is no need to be? Enough said.

RR

Some of us did not always have money. I, like others here I am sure, have waited on our share of tables. When staying at a hotel, I always give something to the maids. The other day I happened to run into a waiter I had not seen in a long time. He is a single father with two young children (his wife died). He is one of the best waiters I have ever seen. I had meant to give him something at Christmas time, but did not see him, so I gave it to him then. Just had a manicure this week and the girl did an excellent job so I tipped her well. I am not going to miss any of these tips. However, the little I gave to each of them will make their lives a little easier.

I must point out that none of the people I tip are looking for handouts. They are hard working and provide excellent service. It will be a cold day in hell however, when I tip a bartender or receptionist at Centaurus. Even I have my limits.

Jamaicanceo
10-06-08, 06:38
Some of us did not always have money. I, like others here I am sure, have waited on our share of tables. When staying at a hotel, I always give something to the maids. The other day I happened to run into a waiter I had not seen in a long time. He is single father with two young children (his wife died). He is one of the best waiters I have ever seen. I had meant to give him something at Christmas time, but did not see him, so I gave it to him then. Just had a manicure this week and the girl did an excellent job so I tipped her well. I am not going to miss any of these tips. However, the little I gave to each of them will make their lives a little easier.

I must point out that none of the people I tip are looking for handouts. They are hard working and provide excellent service. It will be a cold day in hell however, when I tip a bartender or receptionist at Centaurus. Even I have my limits.I agree. Plus, my friends and I went to a pizzeria not to far from Luomo and we gave the host a tip for him and the waiter for being nice to seat us right away. The ext night after a night of banging at 4x4, we went to the same spot and saw the same folks. Needless to say our service was just as good with free drinks and dessert. The head waiter was a Angolan in Rio for college.

The same for an internet cafe. We gave the guy a small time, and the next time we went he took care of us. This came in handy after Bank of America froze my atm card because I forgot to tell them I was on vacation in Rio.I made 8 calls to BOFA because of poor connectivity. The kid let me have the phone until I made contact with BOFA. Again, a small tip can go a long way.

Sperto
10-06-08, 07:45
I think nobody have missed that tipping isn't expected in Brazil. If I get an exceptional good service I do tip.

The problem in Copa is that so many gringos tip all the time, which result in waiters taking for granted that they are supposed to get a tip even though their service might have been really bad.

At MP and TA some waiters, when returning the change, have already have taken a share as a tip. That's not acceptable.

David68
10-06-08, 10:05
It will be a cold day in hell however, when I tip a bartender or receptionist at Centaurus. Even I have my limits.Well I agree but I always drop a few bucks for my buddy here. Might have the worst job in Brazil. I'm sure we all know him.

Rock Harders
10-06-08, 10:35
Mongers-
At the vast majority of restaurants and bars in Rio de Janeiro, a 10% service fee is added to the check; this money is passed along to the waiters in lieu of tips. On credit card purchases (which make up an enormous % of the sales), the service staff get 7% as the other 3% pays the merchant fee. There is no need to tip waiters above and beyond the 10% that is added to the check unless they gave exceptional service. Remember that some bars do not add the 10% so in that case tipping is appropriate. The clubs such as Baronetti (where you pay everything with a "credit" card, and pay a cashier at the end) do add the 10%, Shenanignans adds the 10%, and Lord Jim does not add the 10%, so you should tip there. I always tip at Help (R$1 per drink) as those guys are not getting the 10% and it brings faster service if the place is packed. Keep in mind that most waiters/bartenders in Rio are only earning R$450- R$500 per month in salary so without the 10% or tips they cannot make ends meet.

I am in the bar business and I toiled for 9 years as a bartender and manager in various bars before becoming the owner of a bar and several other businesses. I can tell you from experience that I always gave better service to the clients who tipped me well and I continue to take good care of the customers who take care of my bartenders well. If a customers does have the courtesy to leave even a couple dollars or pesos, I take it as a lack of respect, the tip can be small, but leaving something shows character in my opinion. Obviously in Brasil the 10% service fee is the same as a tip and paying it (which is not mandatory) shows decency
Suerte,
Rock Harders

Prosal
10-06-08, 11:10
I can tell you from experience that I always gave better service to the clients who tipped me well and I continue to take good care of the customers who take care of my bartenders well.
Right on the money amigo.

The only people most mongers are usually cheap to are the waiters and service staff... actually the people you SHOULDNT be cheap to, especially in a bar or a club where you intend to become a regular.

Rio Bob
10-06-08, 14:56
Well I agree but I always drop a few bucks for my buddy here. Might have the worst job in Brazil. I'm sure we all know him.

Yes most of us know him, he deserves a tip, he keeps it clean.

Jan 156
10-06-08, 16:00
Right on the money amigo.

The only people most mongers are usually cheap to are the waiters and service staff... actually the people you SHOULDNT be cheap to, especially in a bar or a club where you intend to become a regular.


Yeah - there's 'tipping' that is better termed 'bribery'. In this category, I always tip the head waiter in my favourite pickup joint five reis on my first drink when I go in. That way he doesn't ask me to move like he does everyone else, never gets my drink and change wrong like he does everyone else, never complains I'm not buying his sh*tty food like he does everyone else . . . It's not a tip: it's advance payment.

Sperto
10-06-08, 16:27
The GP's in Rio must have a hard time, judging by the very few Rio reports in this section. It seems like nobody is there right now. The poor girls must starve. :(

Lorenzo
10-06-08, 17:11
Well I agree but I always drop a few bucks for my buddy here. Might have the worst job in Brazil. I'm sure we all know him.
Well, I don't. Who is he?

Exec Talent
10-06-08, 17:50
Well I agree but I always drop a few bucks for my buddy here. Might have the worst job in Brazil. I'm sure we all know him.

Remember when Help was supposed to close. I went straight to him and asked. He told me it was not closing. Then I confirmed it with another trusted employee.

That is a great picture. You should print it out and give it to him the next time you are in town or I can do it. BTW, I never go to the restroom in Help without giving him at least R$1. A good guy.

Exec Talent
10-06-08, 18:00
I went to Balcony last night thinking I just would get a night cap. I circled inside the bar area and what did I find -- a 10. Beautiful face, smile and a body to match. She was not smoking or even drinking. I didn't take any chances and immediately asked her to sit outside so we could talk. An hour later we left.

She was not the best in bed I have experienced in Rio, but what she lacked in experience, she made up for in looks. She is 25, has never been married and does not have any kids. What amazed me most is that she had no attitude about her looks.

While most of the girls at Balcony are not keepers, every once in a while you find a gem. My lucky night.

Sperto
10-06-08, 19:41
well i agree but i always drop a few bucks for my buddy here. might have the worst job in brazil. i'm sure we all know him.
i think he must have the best toilet-guy job in brazil. where else in brazil would guys give a tip after peeing and washing their hands?

i think the toilet-woman on help must have lots of interesting stories to tell. snorting girls, girls fighting with high-heeled shoes and ripping of each others fake hair. propably tons of funny stories about the gringos they got on their hooks. it's a shame that the toilet-woman isn't a member on this forum. she would be the best teacher for all the help-lovers.

David68
10-06-08, 21:19
Remember when Help was supposed to close. I went straight to him and asked. He told me it was not closing. Then I confirmed it with another trusted employee.

That is a great picture. You should print it out and give it to him the next time you are in town or I can do it. BTW, I never go to the restroom in Help without giving him at least R$1. A good guy.Same here. He always gives me some free gum or something else just for the hell of it. It would be great if he could get a copy of this photo. I won't be in brazil until new years. maybe you'll get there before me.

Ee2002
10-07-08, 03:00
i think he must have the best toilet-guy job in brazil. where else in brazil would guys give a tip after peeing and washing their hands?

i think the toilet-woman on help must have lots of interesting stories to tell. snorting girls, girls fighting with high-heeled shoes and ripping of each others fake hair. propably tons of funny stories about the gringos they got on their hooks. it's a shame that the toilet-woman isn't a member on this forum. she would be the best teacher for all the help-lovers.

in all these years of going there i never noticed that there was a toilet lady in the female restroom. not that i have ever been inside, i mean like her stepping out at anytime or when the girls leave the door wide open. i never noticed that.

the lady at 4x4 named sylvia has got to be the highest paid non gdp there, based on all the gringos (especially) that hand her an average of $5r each. she is the only one in that joint that deserve it in my opinion.

Edward M
10-07-08, 03:14
In all these years of going there I never noticed that there was a toilet lady in the female restroom. Not that I have ever been inside, I mean like her stepping out at anytime or when the girls leave the door wide open. i never noticed that.

The lady at 4x4 named Sylvia has got to be the highest paid non GDP there, based on all the gringos (especially) that hand her an average of $5r each. She is the only one in that joint that deserve it in my opinion.I think she may make more than some of the GDPs and that is just wrong. If a girl can make more money not being a GDP then no one will want to be a GDP. Also, what is the tip for? covering your clothes in cigarette smoke?

Chi Town Hustler
10-07-08, 03:45
some of us did not always have money. i, like others here i am sure, have waited on our share of tables. when staying at a hotel, i always give something to the maids. the other day i happened to run into a waiter i had not seen in a long time. he is a single father with two young children (his wife died). he is one of the best waiters i have ever seen. i had meant to give him something at christmas time, but did not see him, so i gave it to him then. just had a manicure this week and the girl did an excellent job so i tipped her well. i am not going to miss any of these tips. however, the little i gave to each of them will make their lives a little easier.

i must point out that none of the people i tip are looking for handouts. they are hard working and provide excellent service. it will be a cold day in hell however, when i tip a bartender or receptionist at centaurus. even i have my limits.


i think gringos that are big time tippers are guys that want to live the life of a celebrity. that type of gringo wants lots of girls, champaign and respect from not only the girls but from his peers in the club and the waiters that work in the clubs. a gringo i meet in brasil a few years back is a big time tipper on average he has a r500 bill every night in help and he always leaves a r80 tip. after hanging out with the guy a few times i asked him why does he leaves a big tip? his answer was "i am a baller." translation for all you guys that don't understand urban lingo baller means a thug that has "made it" to the big time. well as you may suspect the waiters at help and mp are very happy when they see him also one more thing on this subject i found out that when i hang out with my big tipper friend and guys like him girls tend to give a much higher quote and find it much harder to negotiate down with a gdp when she pegs you to have lots of money. conclusion tipping is only good for the waiter and small favors but bad for over all business that drives up the cost garota.

Carlos Primeros
10-07-08, 05:12
It is very strange with our American brothers. Their tipping culture is not understood by brothers of European descend.

Europeans tip small and only for an excellent service. We think that if somebody is doing just his job is already paid for it. Only if he/she is going out of their way than a bigger tip is justified. The American brothers simply tip big. I think that this has to do with their socio-cultural background. In the US a waiter can not make a living without tips. So they give. For sure there are also guys who tip very big. To demonstrate their social status. If Americans "have made it" they want to show and demonstrate this fact whereas others simply keep a low profile. This certainly does not apply to everybody. So take my observation with a grain of salt.

Carlos Primeros

Sperto
10-07-08, 06:25
In all these years of going there I never noticed that there was a toilet lady in the female restroom. Not that I have ever been inside, I mean like her stepping out at anytime or when the girls leave the door wide open. i never noticed that.
Maybe there is no toilet lady in the female restroom? I just think it would be strange if they have a guy working the men's restroom and nobody working in the female restroom.
This isn't really a big concern of mine so I leave it up to you confirm if she exist or not. :)

Sperto
10-07-08, 06:51
I think gringos that are big time tippers are guys that want to live the life of a celebrity...
I had a similar experience. I met a guy from my home town in Rio. He spent all days at MP, TA and Help. His daily bills at MP were never less than R$ 500.

The waiters were almost fighting to have him at their table. The girls were like flies on shit on this guy. They got free drinks, free food and could use his mobile phone as much as they liked. The sellers were delighted. He bought everything they offered, roses, bicinis, Teddy-bears etc. The guy tipped everybody. Big tips!

The guy wasn't rich. He was working his ass off during two years and then came down to Rio spending everything in less than one month.

I asked him why he was throwing away money like a fool? His answer was "look how everybody loves and respect me".

Of course nobody respected him because of his spending and generous tips, propably the contrary. I don't judge him. It was just a way for a nobody to be somebody.

Ee2002
10-07-08, 07:54
Maybe there is no toilet lady in the female restroom? I just think it would be strange if they have a guy working the men's restroom and nobody working in the female restroom.
This isn't really a big concern of mine so I leave it up to you confirm if she exist or not. :)

No I think I will pass, I have seen all that I need to see.

As far as Sylvia, I will tip when I can, she is a very nice lady and have had my back (lost keys, watch my bags, etc) a few times. Trust me I'm not the tipping type, but fuck it whats a couple of reais here or there to people that you feel deserve it. Even the toilet guy at Help, for years I never gave him shit,LOL. But after talking to him a couple of times, realizing that he is actually a cool guy with a shitty job,LOL, I will throw a real in the tip jar if I have change every time I go to Help.

Edward M
10-08-08, 01:09
Maybe there is no toilet lady in the female restroom? I just think it would be strange if they have a guy working the men's restroom and nobody working in the female restroom.
This isn't really a big concern of mine so I leave it up to you confirm if she exist or not. :)I do not know if there is a women's room attendant or not but if there was one they would have to pay her since I doubt she would get any tips.

Travel Fox
10-08-08, 04:28
there are doors on the stalls in helpee now.

the guy in bathroom is kool as a mothafucka. i tip him almost every time i go in.

sylvia or what ever in 4x4 is kool but she does smoke some ciggies. last i was there about 2 years ago i smoked too so it actually made me more understanding of her role around there while talking and puffing away.

i tip in america but i do not tip in any of the various countries i visit. if you properly study the culture wherever it is you go, you should know what to do in general situations. one thing i have learned is no one tips outside of america and it looks foolish to the locals and yes they then may have an open to take advantage of you not solely because of your generosity but also your percived lack of knowledge with regard to local customs (especially in se asia). so, if you have money, the more reason to try to parlay some ass with it in the states where it may really get you that unreachable pussy. most of the pussy in brazil is reachable without all the antics. thats my philosopy...

travelfox

Lorenzo
10-08-08, 16:32
I have had the experience, in the few Brazilian restaurants--usually upscale ones--where a service charge is not included in the bill, of being told most emphatically by the waiter/waitress when being presented with the bill, "servico nao incluido." So it is rather obvious that they are expecting a tip.

L

Sperto
10-08-08, 17:34
A medal has to be given to Exec Talent.
He's the only one on the last three pages that presented a real Rio-report (about Balcony). The only post that's not about tipping.

Balluba
10-08-08, 17:51
The only post that's not about tipping.And not to forget doors or not on the toilette stalls.

Jake993
10-08-08, 19:53
A medal has to be given to Exec Talent.

He's the only one on the last three pages that presented a real Rio-report (about Balcony). The only post that's not about tipping.OK - let's break the log jam.

Went to HELP! last Tuesday night. Not very busy so my wingman and I decided to take the host's suggestion and get a table. At first I balked (never having gotten a table before) but it turned out to be a great idea because not only did we avoid the whole drink ticket crap but we got waited on hand and foot (as it was not so busy). The knock-on effect was that we were visited by all kinds of GDP's wanting to know if we were Russian Oligrach's or something. I must admit we were being a little stupid in buying drinks for people. It was kinda fun holding court (so to speak). At one point we told the waiter that a group of ugly girls were blocking our view of the dance floor and would he please ask them to move - so he did! Heck of a deal. The King of HELP! for a night.

We ended up attracting a smorgasbord of girls but there were a few in particular that we invited to hang around and drink some tequila with us. There were a few tense moments when three REALLY drunk girls (and not too pretty I might add) came and sat down uninvited. One of them even started helping herself to the plate of shrimp we had ordered. Of course, a quick nod to my new best friend the waiter and he had the silly girl thrown out. Again, a heck of a deal. I could get used to this "big shot" routine.

It seemed like the less interested we were in taking girls home, the more would show up. At 3:00 AM the the Tequila girls wanted to go so we kissed them on the cheek and sent them home. Not more than 30 seconds later ANOTHER group comes over and wants to know if we were gay? Of course we told them we were gay and invited them to sit down, offered them drinks and proceeded to discuss the football scores ignoring them completely. Now these girls were getting REALLY confused.

I invited the short little Morena with big tits and a nice ass to come home with me because she said she lived all the way up in Novo Iguacu and had no place else to stay (yeah, right). At that point in the evening I had not laid a finger on her and told her she could sleep in my room but "no sex" because I'm gay. She laughed it off but when it was time to go, guess who follows me out the door? When we got in the taxi I warned her that I wasn't going to pay her anything and she said that would be fine as long as we didn't have sex. So much for a game of "Bullshit".

Anyhow, to make a long story short - we were all over each other in about 30 seconds once we got in the room. I guess the disguise didn't fool anyone.
After a few hours of wild sex we fell asleep as the sun came up.

It must have been well past 10 AM when we both woke up, had one more for the road and she hit the shower. Now the awkward bit - we had never actually discussed price and since the pickings were pretty slim in HELP! that night (on both sides) I wanted to see how far I could take this. Of course the old sob story about an ailing mother and her younger sister who was a single Mom came up, yada, yada, yada. I asked her how much she wanted $R300. I said, "tell you what, you come back tonight for an encore and I'll give you $R350".

She though about it for what was to me, waaaay too long. She finally grinned at me and said, "ok, I'll do it but I can't come until after 10:00 PM because I have English lessons tonight you have to buy me pizza for dinner. And get some decent beer in here because I can't drink that crap Antarctica Original you have in the mini bar!!!!!! Oh, and you have to give $R20 for cab fare. "

Sometimes you have just gotta love a simple girl with simple taste.

Andy1974
10-08-08, 20:03
Hi guys,

There used to be this platinum blond girl in help earlier this year, she had enormous fake breasts and way way too much liposuction, really you can't miss her, her tits stand out a mile, does anyone know who I am talking about?

For the last few months the board has been full of stories of slim picking at help, when I was there in feb it was mobbed, is this an annual cycle? Will it get busy again for my next trip in feb 09?

Cheers fellas, and thank god the tipping posts are over

Andy

Andy1974
10-08-08, 22:40
Did I say liposuction? I meant collagen injections in her lips!

Christ, what would Freud say about that?

Jake993
10-09-08, 01:03
Hi guys,

There used to be this platinum blond girl in help earlier this year, she had enormous fake breasts and way way too much liposuction, really you can't miss her, her tits stand out a mile, does anyone know who I am talking about?

For the last few months the board has been full of stories of slim picking at help, when I was there in feb it was mobbed, is this an annual cycle? Will it get busy again for my next trip in feb 09?

Cheers fellas, and thank god the tipping posts are over

Andy

As sure as the sun will rise in the east; the pickings at HELP! will improve in February.

Edward M
10-09-08, 01:38
there are doors on the stalls in helpee now.

the guy in bathroom is kool as a mothafucka. i tip him almost every time i go in.

sylvia or what ever in 4x4 is kool but she does smoke some ciggies. last i was there about 2 years ago i smoked too so it actually made me more understanding of her role around there while talking and puffing away.

i tip in america but i do not tip in any of the various countries i visit. if you properly study the culture wherever it is you go, you should know what to do in general situations. one thing i have learned is no one tips outside of america and it looks foolish to the locals and yes they then may have an open to take advantage of you not solely because of your generosity but also your percived lack of knowledge with regard to local customs (especially in se asia). so, if you have money, the more reason to try to parlay some ass with it in the states where it may really get you that unreachable pussy. most of the pussy in brazil is reachable without all the antics. thats my philosopy...

travelfoxtf,

just out of curiosity, how do you deal with people asking for tips? some of the people at 4x4 (and other termas too) can be pests. for some reason the maids and people that sign you into the cabines are always asking me for tips. strangely, the reception girls and doormen (at 4x4) rarely ask me anymore. i have not been there for quite some time but i remember solarium had the most aggresive tip requestors in my experience.

Rio Bob
10-09-08, 01:54
For the last few months the board has been full of stories of slim picking at help, when I was there in feb it was mobbed, is this an annual cycle? Will it get busy again for my next trip in feb 09? Andy

The annual migration of girls from all over Brazil and Europe coming into Rio starts around early November, peaks between New Years and Carnaval and then right after Carnaval they start to return in the next weeks and months. You should be hitting it right at the peak.

Jan 156
10-09-08, 02:39
TF,

Just out of curiosity, how do you deal with people asking for tips? Some of the people at 4x4 (and other termas too) can be pests. For some reason the maids and people that sign you into the cabines are always asking me for tips. Strangely, the reception girls and doormen (at 4x4) rarely ask me anymore. I have not been there for quite some time but I remember Solarium had the most aggresive tip requestors in my experience.

Sometimes girls at VM ask me for a 5R tip and I usually refuse - it's usually (not always) the ones who have given bad service. I suppose my European mentality feels slightly offended. I've bargained a price that she is ostensibly happy with - even if it's just getting the 1R off for the condom - but I feel slightly cheated if she renegades on the price by asking for a tip. I usually tell her I find it rude.

I haven't been pestered in 4x4 by often have given the cloakroom lady a small tip, and have bought drinks for staff behind the bar on the rare occasion. I think if anyone asked me for a tip I would just say, "No."

Very, very occasionally I give a tip for truly outstanding service is this was not reflected in the price. I think this is bad practice though so tend not to unless I've lost the plot that night. ;-)

I tip the staff at Cervantes by rounding up - not every time, just enough to make a point - cos I go there a lot when I'm in Rio and it is outstanding service and value.

Jan 156
10-09-08, 03:00
Just get of at the station before Maracana, that is São Cristóvão. From there it's only a short walk to VM. If you don't want to walk any taxi passing by will take you there.


Should maybe add that if you want to go by taxi from São Cristóvão, it's better to get a cab, if possible, from the far side of the station (not the exit towards the main road but the north one - ie turn right as you exit the platform. The reason being that at Cristovao the traffic is going in the wrong direction and has to go much further (and crossing over doesn't just reverse things).

Sperto
10-09-08, 05:52
should maybe add that if you want to go by taxi from são cristóvão, it's better to get a cab, if possible, from the far side of the station (not the exit towards the main road but the north one - ie turn right as you exit the platform.
right!
i must say if you go to vm by metro to have a cheap f**k, then it's a bit weird to throw away money on a taxi getting from the metro station to vm. it's just a 5 minutes walk.

that 5 minute walk to vm is good to get you time to inhale the lovely trashy atmosphere and also to have a quick [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134).

Tavares
10-09-08, 12:52
What is the mongering season in Rio? I was there in mid-December and it was fabulous. Last time I made a stop in Rio on my way to Peru in June and it was very slow..Rio specialists, when to go?

thanks

Sperto
10-09-08, 13:26
What is the mongering season in Rio? I was there in mid-December and it was fabulous. Last time I made a stop in Rio on my way to Peru in June and it was very slow..Rio specialists, when to go?
thanks
Look 5 posts down. Sangue Bon gives the answer.

Jay Rollin
10-09-08, 15:04
Where exactly is the balcony? I've only been to Rio once but could not find it. There is also the restaurant behind Help there is supposed to have good afternoon action. Could not find that place either. Could someone get more specific directions?

Thanks

Sperto
10-09-08, 15:43
Where exactly is the balcony? I've only been to Rio once but could not find it. There is also the restaurant behind Help there is supposed to have good afternoon action. Could not find that place either. Could someone get more specific directions?
Thanks
Balcony is on Av Atlántica, next to Rua Ronald de Carvalho. Three blocks after Av Princesa Isabel.
There is no restaurant behind Help. Maybe you think of Meia Pataca, which lies in the block before Help?

Jay Rollin
10-09-08, 16:04
Yes that's it! Meia Pataca. How has that been lately? Thanks for the info. I'll be there next month with some reports to follow. Few months back I spent some time in Help, 4X4 and Lluomo. Had a great time. One bad experience bringing a Help girl back to the hotel. Time vs $ issue but still a great performance. Rio is a great place to visit.

Thanks Sperto

Exec Talent
10-09-08, 16:21
WARNING -- anyone interested in the mindless drivel posted by guys who live thousands of miles away, please ignore this post. This is an actual on the scene report. Sorry for the interrruption.

Was at L'uomo last night and it was nice guy heaven. There were people from all over the planet and everyone was so cool. It is like all the jerks have left Rio for NY or something.

The girls have all but given up on making money, they are now more into having a good time. At the end of the night right in the bar several decided that they didn't need their tops any more. Others put on pretty wild strip shows. It was not that the girls were drinking a lot. I just got the impression that they didn't care, they wanted to let their hair down and have fun. Hope this continues especially the jerks staying away.

OK those playing the home game can go back to their regularly scheduled posting.

Lorenzo
10-09-08, 16:30
What is the mongering season in Rio? I was there in mid-December and it was fabulous. Last time I made a stop in Rio on my way to Peru in June and it was very slow..Rio specialists, when to go?

thanks
Rio mongering season: January 1-December 31.

Exec Talent
10-09-08, 16:33
For those of you who have never been to Balcony, do not go there expecting to see twenty doable girls. Many times you will be lucky to find one or two. I found an absolute gem the other night, but that happens rarely.

In my opinion, the best time to go is between 9:00 and 11:30. You will see some of the girls who will later be in front of or inside Help. Lately, with tourism down, the girls do not want to risk paying the entrance to Help and leaving without a client. They start earlier in the evening at Balcony in hopes of making money and then going to Help later. Also, I have noticed that some girls just don't like Help. They find it too big and competitive. At Balcony, they are able to work in a smaller open air environment. Though I don't make it a nightly event, it is worth a visit or two.

Spinnerman
10-09-08, 16:38
WARNING -- anyone interested in the mindless drivel posted by guys who live thousands of miles away, please ignore this post. This is an actual on the scene report. Sorry for the interrruption.

Was at L'uomo last night and it was nice guy heaven. There were people from all over the planet and everyone was so cool. It is like all the jerks have left Rio for NY or something.

The girls have all but given up on making money, they are now more into having a good time. At the end of the night right in the bar several decided that they didn't need their tops any more. Others put on pretty wild strip shows. It was not that the girls were drinking a lot. I just got the impression that they didn't care, they wanted to let their hair down and have fun. Hope this continues especially the jerks staying away.

OK those playing the home game can go back to their regularly scheduled posting.
Damn my timing sucks! I was there with a friend the day before you. LOL. Pretty quiet most of the night , except when the DJ played Funk , at one point we were the only two guys with 19 girls.
The half price before 7PM discount is finished , and the cook was sick so no food. All in all one of the few disappointing times I've been there. I didn't session.

Superman79
10-09-08, 20:35
.... at one point we were the only two guys with 19 girls.
.......All in all one of the few disappointing times I've been there. I didn't session.So Let me get this straight. There were 2 guys and 19 girls and you call that disappointing?

Ee2002
10-09-08, 23:07
Balcony is next to the only park along Atlantico, across from lifeguard tower # 2 (Help is by post #5). Or look for the big black/brown hotel building Rio international and it's on the same block. As far as the Restaurant behind Help, sounds like the Office, which last time I was there a few weeks ago appeared to be closed.

Balcony has a lot of potential but the talent is usually not that great. Those guys probably wish Help would close since their talent pool would improve. A lot of the girls live over in that area by Prado Jr, would save those girls a lot of reais.

Also ET how is it going with the discount cards at Luomo's, I got one before I left last month. Just checking to see if they are not pulling any fast ones like they did last month with the e-mail promotion. The card is supposed to be good til the end of the year for a 50% discount on the entrada.

Exec Talent
10-09-08, 23:19
Also ET how is it going with the discount cards at Luomo's, I got one before I left last month. Just checking to see if they are not pulling any fast ones like they did last month with the e-mail promotion. The card is supposed to be good til the end of the year for a 50% discount on the entrada.

The promotion of 50% discount on entrance before 7:00 M-F has ended. The discount now (if you have a card) is 50% off the entrance if you take a girl to the room. Based upon their regular discounts (R$10 off if you take a girl) this amounts to a savings of R$20. Since there are very few guys these days, I end up buying more drinks for girls I like, so not a real net savings.

Jamaicanceo
10-10-08, 02:56
So Let me get this straight. There were 2 guys and 19 girls and you call that disappointing?Easy, I get it. He would've been very pleased if the odds were 19 guys and 2 girls.

Spinnerman
10-10-08, 19:43
Easy, I get it. He would've been very pleased if the odds were 19 guys and 2 girls.
LOL , no that would have been shocking. There was nothing there I fancied , and the atmosphere was just dead, no energy..
I ended up at Barbarella's

Oralover
10-10-08, 23:18
WARNING -- anyone interested in the mindless drivel posted by guys who live thousands of miles away, please ignore this post. This is an actual on the scene report. Sorry for the interrruption.

Was at L'uomo last night and it was nice guy heaven. There were people from all over the planet and everyone was so cool. It is like all the jerks have left Rio for NY or something.

The girls have all but given up on making money, they are now more into having a good time. At the end of the night right in the bar several decided that they didn't need their tops any more. Others put on pretty wild strip shows. It was not that the girls were drinking a lot. I just got the impression that they didn't care, they wanted to let their hair down and have fun. Hope this continues especially the jerks staying away.

OK those playing the home game can go back to their regularly scheduled posting.I was at l'uomo a couple of nights ago and found some of the rules the management was inflicting on the girls a little ridiculous. At one point there was only a few guys in the bar and a manager made one of the girls leave the side of a client that she already had sessioned with. If the place was crowded I could understand; but the girl just came back and had to stand at the bar with other girls because there were no other men to talk with. They would have at least made money off the drinks he was going to buy her.

I also found out that the girls there have to pay a fine if they go a week without a session. The girls were telling me that the place has been pretty dead lately. I can understand a fine for not showing up; but to inflict a fine on someone already not earning anything is just cruel.

Other than that, the place was great as always. Booked a 2 hour session with Louisa who was so thankful for the business she showed me a fantastic time.

Wiild
10-10-08, 23:21
.....platinum blond girl in help.....enormous fake breasts Andy

I would love to meet her on my next trip in November, so if anyone has any info please post! Thanks

Bdonkadonk
10-11-08, 06:45
I would love to meet her on my next trip in November, so if anyone has any info please post! ThanksI am a breast- and an assman and would also like to see this girl! Hope she will be around when I come to Rio in february. I always find girls with great bundas in Brazil but I never see those giant tits there... The breastscene in Rio definately need some big tit action - even if they are fake!

Oralover
10-11-08, 20:14
Friday Night was hopping at Centauros.

I went there to try out some new girls instead of going to L'uomo again.

I was talking with the Donna there and she said more than 120 men had come through the door that night alone. I'm not sure about those numbers, but there were alot of men and there were fresh faces all night.

A great selection of girls and lots of heavy foreplay in the boite.

Alot of the girls are now carrying little pouches on their waste, and they carry their keys to their lockers. Seems that one of the girls has been robbing the other girls lockers. So now they carry their cash and belongings with them. Some girls think they know who it is, but there is no proof.

Spent most of the night hanging with Aline. She's been there for at least a year, but she wasn't Aline then (there was another Aline before). She had blonde hair and smaller breasts; now she's a brunette with implants. Great body, nice ass, gorgeous face.

Her locker was broken into 2 nights before and she was getting drunk to not think about it (being sad and/or angry isn't good for business). As the evening wore on, she was getting drunker and I thought that she wouldn't be able to session; but I was having such a nice time with her I thought I'd give it a try. Boy was I wrong. She was a sex machine on overdrive.

After the session she was able to leave and asked me if I wanted to go out for a drink with her and one of the other girls. We ended up in 2 different bars, and watched the sun rise on the beach. Then the three of us went back to my apartment.

What a great night. And morning.

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Exec Talent
10-12-08, 07:39
Rarely am I disappointed. Maybe my expectations were too high. But I should have known better. There were signs. First of all the girl worked at Centaurus. Second, I have never see her with guys after the session. Third, I see her dancing around a lot but never really sitting and making out with guys. So why did I go with her. Well, she has the best body in L'uomo. Absolutely perfect bubble butt and beautiful natural breasts.

Was she awful? No. Would your mileage vary. Based on what I saw, I do not think so. The other thing that should have clued me in is I sort of remember having been with her before. She said at Centaurus. But if she was that good, I think I would have really remembered her.

Depending on your standards, you may be happy with this girl, so I really do not want to dis her. All I will say is if you see a girl dancing wildly (more like prancing) and looking kind of stupid doing so, you probably have the right one. Also, although I did see her with a cigarette one time, in general she does not smoke.

SlimHoleDrill
10-12-08, 14:18
Rio mongering season: January 1-December 31.
Couldn't agree more. I have said many times that the slow times are best IMHO. But if you want to experience the uber party atmosphere, no doubt it is centred around Carnival, mainly because that is tourist high season. But the idea that somehow the stunners are not there in low season, I have not had this problem. Fewer girls but lots fewer customers so I always find something I like and I find attitudes are excelent during the slow times.

So, when to visit Rio? Any time you can!

Tiradentes
10-12-08, 14:24
Friday Night was hopping at Centauros.


I was talking with the Donna there and she said more than 120 men had come through the door that night alone. I'm not sure about those numbers, but there were alot of men and there were fresh faces all night.

A great selection of girls and lots of heavy foreplay in the boite.

Alot of the girls are now carrying little pouches on their waste, and they carry their keys to their lockers. Seems that one of the girls has been robbing the other girls lockers. So now they carry their cash and belongings with them. Some girls think they know who it is, but there is no proof.
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That's strange. The girls get paid at the end of every night by management. Not by the customers. So what to steal: documents, car/house keys, $R 20?
Pouch need to be checked out. Are they wired (LOL)?

With 400 R a pop to get in Centaurus, most of the locals and foreigners like myself stopped going there.

p.s.: 'Lula pede que brasileiros só comprem o necessário '.

Exec Talent
10-12-08, 14:37
That's strange. The girls get paid at the end of every night by management. Not by the customers. So what to steal: documents, car/house keys, $R 20?
Pouch need to be checked out. Are they wired (LOL)?

With 400 R a pop to get in Centaurus, most of the locals and foreigners like myself stopped going there.

p.s.: 'Lula pede que brasileiros só comprem o necessário '.

The little pouch came with the outfits they are wearing. However, if you ever have been good friends with a termas girl, you find out quickly that working in those places is like working in a den of thieves. I cannot tell you how many times a girl has told me something had been stolen while she was at work. Sometimes it was little things like a R$12 tube of lube.

RonnyRon
10-12-08, 18:49
The GP's in Rio must have a hard time, judging by the very few Rio reports in this section. It seems like nobody is there right now. The poor girls must starve. :(


My buddy LBJ just got back and from what he reports, YES the situation in Rio is really bleak for the GP's, right now. FYI- My buddy, also reported that had some problems with Help girl name Nadia. Sounds like one to avoid. It appears she caused him some problems at 4:00 in the morning when he wanted her to leave the apartment. Photos attached.

ET,

If you keep talking shit, I will post the stupid PM you sent me on 9/27/08 and my reply to it. ALL will be able to see for themselves what a shallow, pussy whipped man you are. The truth is for all your posts, you really provide very little information anyone can use for the purpose of this forum. Want some more or have you had enough? Please, let me know. I AM GAME! Check...

RonnyRon

David68
10-12-08, 20:08
ET,

If you keep talking shit, I will post the stupid PM you sent me and my reply to it. ALL will be able to see for themselves what a shallow, pussywhipped man you are. The true is for all your posts, you really provide very little information anyone can use for the purpose of this forum. Want some more or have you had enough? Please, let me know. I AM GAME! Check.

RonnyRonUm, not like I want to start trouble, but I'm curious now.

DaveWave
10-12-08, 20:55
Made it over to Monte Carlo last night, Saturday. It was about 7:15pm when I arrived. Fairly slow. About 12 guys, a few more girls.

There seems to be a lot of recycled talent here. Some of these girls have been around for so long--and it's showing.

I sessioned with Isadora who's cute, 23 and maintains she's only worked in the casa for a few months. Who knows if that's true. She was pretty good and a sweetheart in the cabine.

Met some guys from Philly who were representing their city well, lots of garotas on their arms, and overall nice dudes.

Cost was R274 including one drink for me and one suco pra ella.

Jake993
10-13-08, 05:09
Um, not like I want to start trouble, but I'm curious now.
Now look what you've done......

David68
10-13-08, 07:45
Took some photos last night
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I Some of the photos of the girls are less than flattering. I have known XXX from XXX termas for years. I assume you know her too. What did you think of her photos? Would you like photos of you like that posted on the internet.Are we back here again? wow.

Mr Enternational
10-13-08, 14:29
p.s.: 'Lula pede que brasileiros só comprem o necessário '.

Last time I checked pussy was a necessity!

Last night after the gay parade there were slim pickens at Terraco. Only two were familiar faces (the older white chick that is always there and the big light skinned girl that hangs at MP.) One of the best (and that's not saying much in last night's case) girls there came up to me and offered R150 TLN. I told her that I wasn't rich and she quickly dropped to R100. I was weaker than water and couldn't do anything though because a new non-pro had thoroughly exhausted me for three sessions throughout the day so I didn't want to throw the money away.

Sperto
10-13-08, 14:43
Last night after the gay parade there were slim pickens at Terraco. One of the best (and only) girls there came up to me and offered R150 TLN. I told her that I wasn't rich and she quickly dropped to R100.
Maybe she was a he from the parade? ;)

Exec Talent
10-13-08, 18:52
Every place else was closed for either the gay parade or Children's Day (not sure which) so L'uomo was packed. There were probably 50 guys and 15 girls. Again, it looked like the United Nations. Glad to say the only thing missing was the rednecks and gansta rappers. Hope those elements continue to stay away, however my bet is that they are likely to show up with the Thanksgiving Turkey.

For the guys in Rio now who read this forum, thanks for the good times. I am glad we are all able to get along, share some good conversation, respect the women and each other. Those playing the home game could learn something (they won't, but could).

Jake993
10-13-08, 19:16
There were probably 50 guys and 15 girls..
Yikes - not exactly ideal odds for a session. I think I like it the other way around. Kinda makes me glad I'm playing the home game this week. Hope things improve next week.

Poucolouco
10-13-08, 19:32
Every place else was closed for either the gay parade or Children's Day (not sure which) so L'uomo was packed. There were probably 50 guys and 15 girls. Again, it looked like the United Nations. Glad to say the only thing missing was the rednecks and gansta rappers. Hope those elements continue to stay away, however my bet is that they are likely to show up with the Thanksgiving Turkey.

For the guys in Rio now who read this forum, thanks for the good times. I am glad we are all able to get along, share some good conversation, respect the women and each other. Those playing the home game could learn something (they won't, but could).In spite of the fact that Brasilians do not celebrate Thanksgiving, I've always managed to find the other pink meat on this day. I'm coming down tomorrow.

RonnyRon
10-14-08, 03:59
If you have ever been to L'uomo and saw 50 guys and 15 girls as small as that place is, you would be well advised to go back to the locker room and put on your clothes. Yet, he is speaking like it is good thing! Simply amazing is all I can say.

ET,

One minute you are Don Juan with many non-pros who are very happy to pose for your lense, but you are too honorable a man to share those here. The next you are in L'uomo & Monte Carlos every night. Which one is it??? Oh, I see you're a rich young cat that is doing it ALL, right? If anyone believes that I got a bridge to nowhere to sale you in Alaska.

RR

David68
10-14-08, 04:51
Every place else was closed for either the gay parade or Children's Day (not sure which) so L'uomo was packed. There were probably 50 guys and 15 girls. Again, it looked like the United Nations. Glad to say the only thing missing was the rednecks and gansta rappers. Hope those elements continue to stay away, however my bet is that they are likely to show up with the Thanksgiving Turkey.

For the guys in Rio now who read this forum, thanks for the good times. I am glad we are all able to get along, share some good conversation, respect the women and each other. Those playing the home game could learn something (they won't, but could).Not to songle ET out but so often I read about people who say how respectful they are to the women and each other and how we all are so ecclectic and get along, but insult people in the same post. Amazing.

Exec Talent
10-14-08, 04:58
If you have ever been to L'uomo and saw 50 guys and 15 girls as small as that place is, you would be well advised to go back to the locker room and put on your clothes. Yet, he is speaking like it is good thing! Simply amazing is all I can say.

ET,

One minute you are Don Juan with many non-pros who are very happy to pose for your lense, but you are too honorable a man to share those here. The next you are in L'uomo & Monte Carlos every night. Which one is it??? Oh, I see you're a rich young cat that is doing it ALL, right? If anyone believes that I got a bridge to nowhere to sale you in Alaska.

RR

I sent you a very nice PM. Apparently you have trouble with the English language, so I will try to write slowly. L'uomo was the only place open which is why it was packed. I saw one girl early for an hour, then another for 2 hours then later the same girl for 40 minutes. Not that it is any of your business, but this morning my non-pro girl stopped by on her way to work and we had dinner together after she had finished work.

BTW, it is SELL genius. Guess you were too busy being a hater in school to learn verbs and nouns. Consider yourself ignored.

Exec Talent
10-14-08, 08:11
Not to songle ET out but so often I read about people who say how respectful they are to the women and each other and how we all are so ecclectic and get along, but insult people in the same post. Amazing.

Some people deserve zero respect and believe me, that is exactly what I give them.

David68
10-14-08, 08:19
Some people deserve zero respect and believe me, that is exactly what I give them.ET,

Do you know any of these people whom you claim deserve no respect? I'e found that I have met some really interesting people in Rio who I am sure I would never run into at home. This includes "gangsta rappers" and "rednecks". The fun was meeting these people and finding that they were nothing like I had imagined in my small mind.

I just find it odd how you go to the ends of the earth to defned the honor of a hooker but have scorn for people you don't even know. JMHO

Jake993
10-14-08, 13:45
I think this thread is starting to get just a little bit too personal. Let's try to remember the spirit of this board and keep things constructive.

Now, SOMEBODY PLEASE write something that involves PUSSY! I've been out of Brazil for a week now and my bag of reports is all dried up. If no one writes anything I may be forced to tell you the story of Adriana the screamer from Romanza who almost got me kicked out of the Hilton Morumbi in Sao Paulo last month. And that's not a pretty story.........

Rio Bob
10-14-08, 13:56
Friday Night was hopping at Centauros.

I went there to try out some new girls instead of going to L'uomo again.

After the session she was able to leave and asked me if I wanted to go out for a drink with her and one of the other girls. We ended up in 2 different bars, and watched the sun rise on the beach. Then the three of us went back to my apartment.

What a great night. And morning.



Maybe you can elaborate on this? What 2 different bars did you go to? When you went back to your apartment, you did them both? How much did they charge you and when did they leave?

Tjmee
10-14-08, 14:35
Tell us Jake!

Tell us! LOL

Exec Talent
10-14-08, 22:52
ET,

Do you know any of these people whom you claim deserve no respect? I'e found that I have met some really interesting people in Rio who I am sure I would never run into at home. This includes "gangsta rappers" and "rednecks". The fun was meeting these people and finding that they were nothing like I had imagined in my small mind.

I just find it odd how you go to the ends of the earth to defned the honor of a hooker but have scorn for people you don't even know. JMHO

Why would I want to spend time in another country with people I would not give the time of day in my own? Gangsta rapper wannabees, rednecks and guys who post photos of girls on the internet without their permission just are not in my social circle.

As that esteemed philosopher, RonnyRon said, I have better things to do. I have to see a woman about a cat.

George90
10-15-08, 00:35
Why would I want to spend time in another country with people I would not give the time of day in my own? Gangsta rapper wannabees, rednecks and guys who post photos of girls on the internet without their permission just are not in my social circle.

Please understand that Exec Talent lives in the real world. ROTFLMAO!!!!!

RonnyRon
10-15-08, 01:31
I will defer to those who actually have the first hand, interesting reports about Brazilian women to post on this forum. I only wanted to expose this fraud for what it is. Nothing, but empty words. Most of the information he reports you can get off the internet, no need to be in Rio.

Given the number of PMs, I received I am not the first to get unsolicited PMs from this guy, nor will I be the last. I hope, posting his stupid comment puts a stop to that. For all the guys who actually have something real to say. Post away! I am done with this guy.

RonnyRon

Jan 156
10-15-08, 01:36
So c'mon guys, where's the ignore button that let's everyone post whatever the f*ck they like but deletes contentious responses to each other's posts??

Ironically, it's on a forum of a country that is known for its non-confrontationalness. I think the last time we had a Brasileiro on here who seemed aggressive was maybe Macunaima, which was a shame as he wasn't really aggressive (at least IMO) and had a vast amount of knowledge to contribute. The rest of us are pretty stupid gringos in one way or another - why get uppity??


(A couple of contributions attached for soothing frayed edges)

David68
10-15-08, 04:41
So c'mon guys, where's the ignore button that let's everyone post whatever the f*ck they like but deletes contentious responses to each other's posts?

The rest of us are pretty stupid gringos in one way or another - why get uppity??

(A couple of contributions attached for soothing frayed edges)You are so right.

Jake993
10-15-08, 04:55
tell us jake!

tell us! lol

well ok, since you asked nicely, start with the threat from my trip to sampa in july for some back ground info.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2204&page=8&pp=15

report #1661.

last week i was in rio but not before making a stop in sampa. it was one of those rush-rush days where you get off the plane, rush to the hotel for a quick shower and rush to a meeting and then go straight to business dinner. it was after midnight when i got back to the hotel but felt like some company. i didn't feel much like going out again but being tired and a bit lazy, i remembered i still had tatiana's phone number from last time so i dialed the number.

i could not tell who answered but it was loud as hell and i could tell that whoever it was must have been in a club and hung up after a minute of getting no where. immediately i got a an sms and sure enough it was tatiana's phone....... but not tatiana. it was her older sister adriana who was using her phone for the night. she asked me to wait a minute and she would call me from a quieter place.

when she called she explained that tatiana was having her period and was not working tonight. in fact, adriana was fulfilling her kid sister's commitment at romanza. at first it sort of turned me off considering the rotten experience i had with romanza but she said that things were a bit slow and she was ready to come to me if i wanted her to. again, being tired and a bit lazy i said, “sure, come on over”.

about 30 minutes later there was a phone call from the front desk telling me that i had a guest on the way. when opened the door i could see the family resemblance in the face but that was about it. where tatiana was quite slim and tall, adriana was shorter and certainly more stocky. not fat, but more..... solid, shall we say. i guess i must have hesitated because she just started to pout just a little and said that while she was not as pretty, she was much more experienced than her sister. how can you refuse a line like that?

we sat and chit chatted a while and agreed on r$200 plus taxi. i offered her a drink from the minibar but she saw the opened bottle of johnny walker black label i bought in duty free and asked for some of that with ice. i was starting to like her already.

when she said she was more experienced than her little sister, it was an understatement. adriana was probably close to age 30 and later told me that she had already had four kids. she was insatiable. i wont' get into graphic detail but here's the salient mental image - i'm doing her from behind and she holding on to the head board (which is attached to the wall) and she is screaming at me "bachee, bachee, bachee" (more accurately bater, bater, bater - spank me, spank me, spank me). geeeeze louise, what is it with this family and spanking?

so here i am pounding away for all i'm worth and reach over to grab the head board to get a little more leverage when the whole damn headboard comes off the wall!!!! but wait - it get better because now adriana decides that she's about to come and if i stop now i'm a deadman. with headboard still in hand i am desperately trying to satisfy this banshee when there's a knock at the door. and i don't mean a room service knock, i mean a "shut the fuck up and put a leash on your porn show" knock.

right about now, adriana decides to climax and she pushing back into me so hard that i almost fall backwards off the bed. and she's not being quiet either screaming her head off. and whomever is in the hall is still pounding at the door!

at this point i figured i was going to be ok, because adriana was now cooing like a pigeon and collapsed on the bed, but someone was still in the hall knocking on the door like madman. i looked through the peephole and to my surprise it was a woman in a nightgown. and not a good looking garotta, but some middle aged dumpy looking british business woman from the room next door. and she was pissed.....off. with the security bar still on the door, i crack the door and apologized profusely for the noise and for waking her but and that we would keep it down. she gave me a verbal tongue lashing and told me to act my age and quit acting like a school boy - damn, that was the nicest thing anyone had said to me all week.

ok - so we have helga the troll from next door calmed down, we've got adriana the screamer cooing like bird and the head board half off the wall. i played around with it a few times hoping to make a field repair but it was no good. the damned thing just kept falling down. while i am monkeying with the headboard, adriana the screamer now decides she's hungry and asks if she can order room service. "sure, go ahead" i said, not really paying attention. when the food arrived, i opened the door for the waiter and he rolled the car in while adriana sat in the chair dressed in one of the fluffy bathrobes. unfortunately, the waiter notices that the headboard is hanging off the wall and he tells me that he needs to report it to the night manager and mutters something under his breath. i didn’t catch what he said but adriana sure did and the two of them exchanged words.

next thing i know, i’ve got the night manager on the phone telling me that he’s been getting complaints from helga the troll next door about the noise and now he hears from the waiter that i’m trashing the room. this is not the sort of behavior the hilton morumbi expects from its guests. yeah, yeah, i get it. no more screaming.

yeah right – pretty soon adriana is getting frisky again but i manage to get her to scream into the pillow. when we woke around 9:00 am, screamer girl showered and headed out the door. and guess who happened to be coming out her door heading for the elevator? you guessed it. i gave adriana one more sloppy kiss and winked at helga the troll as i shut the door. would have loved to have been a fly on the wall on that elevator ride down.

Exec Talent
10-15-08, 13:44
Last time I was in Monte Carlo about a month ago there could have been a caption under the sign "home of the big bunda." I know some guys like that, but I like my bundas small to medium and definitely firm.

Well, that has all changed. There were still a few larger girls, but most were my type. A lot of new girls, most good looking. Not quite Centaurus quality, but almost. Unfortunately, I also noticed few women of color. Lots of blonds and brunettes with fair skin.

I ended up "settling" for one of the blonds and later saw Joice who as always is a real sweetheart. She just sat down with me to talk and was genuinely surprised when I asked her to the room. She has gained some weight and looks good.

If you are a termas guy coming to Rio and avoided Monte Carlo in the past, I would highly recommend you give it another try. I just hope that they add some more women with darker skin.

One thing they have added is a lesbian show at 10:00. From what I saw, that would not bring me in. A couple of girls went topless and rubbed up against each other a little. If that does it for you, then you need to cut back on the Viagra.

Exec Talent
10-15-08, 13:59
is not a woman. On my way back from Monte Carlo I noticed what I thought was a very hot woman. "She" was with two obvious TVs, but even up close I thought it was a girl. There was a taxi parked there so I asked him what he thought. He said he wasn't sure. I asked him if it would be OK if we had sex in his cab and he just shrugged and said, "sure, why not." I asked "her" to come over again and I said to her, "do you have a pussy or a dick?" "She" said, "dick." I told her "she" looked very hot, thanked "her" for "her" honesty and had the taxi driver take me to Balcony.

As has been brought up here before, most of the girls at Balcony are not keepers, but once in awhile you find a gem. I did find one earlier before my trip to MC. However, she wanted R$300 (most of the girls there are quoting R$150 to start) and I got the impression that kissing the back of my hand would have been more exciting. Her name is Aline and she said she used to work at Barbarella and now works at Pussy Cat. She is hot, but make sure you do the interview. I cannot be sure, but she had disappointment written all over her. I passed.

Rio Bob
10-15-08, 22:50
I'e found that I have met some really interesting people in Rio who I am sure I would never run into at home. This includes "gangsta rappers" and "rednecks". The fun was meeting these people and finding that they were nothing like I had imagined in my small mind. JMHO

This is very wise. I agree with you 100% I have met people in Rio that are completely different than I would ever meet in my neighborhood which is not diverse at all.

I will say that people who are operating on a high level no matter if they have money or not have a high tolerance for all different types of people in this world.

David68
10-16-08, 00:34
I asked him if it would be OK if we had sex in his cab and he just shrugged and said, "sure, why not." A little off topic but I have never heard of guys having sex with streetwalkers in taxis in Copa. I'm only 30 and having been going to Rio only since 2004 but this is the first I've heard of this. Just seems odd to me. Maybe its just me?

Chi Town Hustler
10-16-08, 01:19
I will defer to those who actually have the first hand, For all the guys who actually have something real to say. Post away! I am done with this guy.

RonnyRon

RonnyRon this is my first hand events on what I experiencing now in Rio. Friday Oct 10th HELP was bad I saw only one girl that I would do and she was a 7 in the face and a 7 body wise other than that a waste of my money going in HELP so I ended up sitting out side of HELP talking until about 4 in the morning.

Saturday was a nice day weather wise but the mongering was very slow after walking over to the beach and MP I decided things was to slow for a new pick up so I called my regular GDP.

Sunday woke up looked out my window there must have been a marathon down the Atlantic because their where lots of people running and it appeared from my my advantage point to be a marathon then a bunch of motor cycle riders followed not sure what that was all about and didn't ask my girl.

Sunday also was the day for children me and my girl went to the amusement park in Barra with her kid left the park we took the omni bus and went to the City of Gods where I meet her mother and her mother friends and drank some Skull for I would say 3 hours I never felt in danger.

Monday hung with my regular GDP, Tuesday went to the beach I didn't see any new talent then went to MP a little more crowded that it was Saturday so I stayed had a few beers but not enough talent at MP to writing about then I went down to Balcony about 4pm it was completely dead nothing but 3 ugly skeezers sitting at the bar and I didn't see my favorite waitress I like flirting so over all it sucked.

Conclusion things are slow and everyone is hoping that the American dollar continues to increase and the Americans come back. My regular GDP friend said she hopes things get back like it was in 2000 to 2003 she said everyone was making money and having a good time. One guy I change dollar with echoed the samething I asked why he hoped the American come back he said the Europeans come in numbers in August but the Americans was coming in numbers all year long.

So this is my 2 cents of events as they are happing in Rio.

Watchman4400
10-16-08, 01:50
great job jake!



well ok, since you asked nicely, start with the threat from my trip to sampa in july for some back ground info.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2204&page=8&pp=15

report #1661.

last week i was in rio but not before making a stop in sampa. it was one of those rush-rush days where you get off the plane, rush to the hotel for a quick shower and rush to a meeting and then go straight to business dinner. it was after midnight when i got back to the hotel but felt like some company. i didn't feel much like going out again but being tired and a bit lazy, i remembered i still had tatiana's phone number from last time so i dialed the number.

i could not tell who answered but it was loud as hell and i could tell that whoever it was must have been in a club and hung up after a minute of getting no where. immediately i got a an sms and sure enough it was tatiana's phone....... but not tatiana. it was her older sister adriana who was using her phone for the night. she asked me to wait a minute and she would call me from a quieter place.

when she called she explained that tatiana was having her period and was not working tonight. in fact, adriana was fulfilling her kid sister's commitment at romanza. at first it sort of turned me off considering the rotten experience i had with romanza but she said that things were a bit slow and she was ready to come to me if i wanted her to. again, being tired and a bit lazy i said, “sure, come on over”.

about 30 minutes later there was a phone call from the front desk telling me that i had a guest on the way. when opened the door i could see the family resemblance in the face but that was about it. where tatiana was quite slim and tall, adriana was shorter and certainly more stocky. not fat, but more..... solid, shall we say. i guess i must have hesitated because she just started to pout just a little and said that while she was not as pretty, she was much more experienced than her sister. how can you refuse a line like that?

we sat and chit chatted a while and agreed on r$200 plus taxi. i offered her a drink from the minibar but she saw the opened bottle of johnny walker black label i bought in duty free and asked for some of that with ice. i was starting to like her already.

when she said she was more experienced than her little sister, it was an understatement. adriana was probably close to age 30 and later told me that she had already had four kids. she was insatiable. i wont' get into graphic detail but here's the salient mental image - i'm doing her from behind and she holding on to the head board (which is attached to the wall) and she is screaming at me "bachee, bachee, bachee" (more accurately bater, bater, bater - spank me, spank me, spank me). geeeeze louise, what is it with this family and spanking?

so here i am pounding away for all i'm worth and reach over to grab the head board to get a little more leverage when the whole damn headboard comes off the wall!!!! but wait - it get better because now adriana decides that she's about to come and if i stop now i'm a deadman. with headboard still in hand i am desperately trying to satisfy this banshee when there's a knock at the door. and i don't mean a room service knock, i mean a "shut the fuck up and put a leash on your porn show" knock.

right about now, adriana decides to climax and she pushing back into me so hard that i almost fall backwards off the bed. and she's not being quiet either screaming her head off. and whomever is in the hall is still pounding at the door!

at this point i figured i was going to be ok, because adriana was now cooing like a pigeon and collapsed on the bed, but someone was still in the hall knocking on the door like madman. i looked through the peephole and to my surprise it was a woman in a nightgown. and not a good looking garotta, but some middle aged dumpy looking british business woman from the room next door. and she was pissed.....off. with the security bar still on the door, i crack the door and apologized profusely for the noise and for waking her but and that we would keep it down. she gave me a verbal tongue lashing and told me to act my age and quit acting like a school boy - damn, that was the nicest thing anyone had said to me all week.

ok - so we have helga the troll from next door calmed down, we've got adriana the screamer cooing like bird and the head board half off the wall. i played around with it a few times hoping to make a field repair but it was no good. the damned thing just kept falling down. while i am monkeying with the headboard, adriana the screamer now decides she's hungry and asks if she can order room service. "sure, go ahead" i said, not really paying attention. when the food arrived, i opened the door for the waiter and he rolled the car in while adriana sat in the chair dressed in one of the fluffy bathrobes. unfortunately, the waiter notices that the headboard is hanging off the wall and he tells me that he needs to report it to the night manager and mutters something under his breath. i didn’t catch what he said but adriana sure did and the two of them exchanged words.

next thing i know, i’ve got the night manager on the phone telling me that he’s been getting complaints from helga the troll next door about the noise and now he hears from the waiter that i’m trashing the room. this is not the sort of behavior the hilton morumbi expects from its guests. yeah, yeah, i get it. no more screaming.

yeah right – pretty soon adriana is getting frisky again but i manage to get her to scream into the pillow. when we woke around 9:00 am, screamer girl showered and headed out the door. and guess who happened to be coming out her door heading for the elevator? you guessed it. i gave adriana one more sloppy kiss and winked at helga the troll as i shut the door. would have loved to have been a fly on the wall on that elevator ride down.

Sperto
10-16-08, 05:54
Conclusion things are slow and everyone is hoping that the American dollar continues to increase and the Americans come back. My regular GDP friend said she hopes things get back like it was in 2000 to 2003 she said everyone was making money and having a good time. One guy I change dollar with echoed the samething I asked why he hoped the American come back he said the Europeans come in numbers in August but the Americans was coming in numbers all year long.
The Europeans come in numbers in August? There is a peak with Italians in August, but most Europeans definitely go between Dezember-March in high-season to avoid the European winter.

It would be interesting to see some statistics of foreign tourism in Brazil. I can't say I ever seen many Americans in Rio, except for the two blocks in Copa that holds MP, TA, Help and Domino's Pizza. The gringos I see in Rio is just a big mixture of all nationalities. Europeans, Russians, Japanese, Americans etc.

I can imagine that Americans are the most popular customers among the Copa-GP's. The reason is very simple. They overpay without complains.

Mangera
10-16-08, 12:34
I can imagine that Americans are the most popular customers among the Copa-GP's. The reason is very simple. They overpay without complaints.


SPERTO.........THIS IS SOOOOOOOOOOO F**KEN TRUE.

El Greco
10-16-08, 16:09
From my observation there are many Italians from mid January to the end of February in Fortaleza driving prices sky high.

There used to be many Dutch too but not anymore. The lady mayor did not renew traffic rights to a very-very cheap charter mongering flight from AMSterdam.

Misterm
10-16-08, 16:19
The gringos I see in Rio is just a big mixture of all nationalities. Europeans, Russians, Japanese, Americans etc.Lol. Gringos? Us asian peps, especially us Japanese prefer not to be lumped with the white folks, we're more of a creamy yellow tint. And we certainly try not to overpay.

I'll will be visiting Brazil in January and will certainly make use of a all the valuable info from this board. Thankz Again

Sincerely

ChicoBarca
10-16-08, 17:23
hi guys,

i'm new at this forum, but have been a few times around the block in rio. done my nice mistakes and not to forget nice experiences.

when it comes to peek seasons and when to expect most turisme and high prices, that is just like serto says from end of november to end of february/beggining of march. the thing is that for the last 3-4 years the turisme in rio has had a drop. you can actually see it from different aspects there, less gdp's and less people at the beach. some of the reason is that since varig (the brazilian airliner went down) and the weak usd. when varig went down the prices of airfares went up quite a lot (less seats to europe) and when the dollar got weaker less americans came. add the fact that negative news comments about sao paulo and rio(high crime and violence) it really made the drop quite big.


the europeans come in numbers in august? there is a peak with italians in august, but most europeans definitely go between dezember-march in high-season to avoid the european winter.

it would be interesting to see some statistics of foreign tourism in brazil. i can't say i ever seen many americans in rio, except for the two blocks in copa that holds mp, ta, help and domino's pizza. the gringos i see in rio is just a big mixture of all nationalities. europeans, russians, japanese, americans etc.

i can imagine that americans are the most popular customers among the copa-gp's. the reason is very simple. they overpay without complains.

HeadGames
10-16-08, 17:51
If they want the Americans to come back, they need to do something about the visa situation.

Sperto
10-16-08, 18:48
If they want the Americans to come back, they need to do something about the visa situation.
Do Brazil have harder visa restrictions towards US than US have contra Brazil?

HeadGames
10-16-08, 19:19
I'm not defending the US government (not by a mile).

If Brazil fixed their visa problem, they would have more visitors from the States. That's my point.

Sperto
10-16-08, 19:45
I'm not defending the US government (not by a mile).
If Brazil fixed their visa problem, they would have more visitors from the States. That's my point.
Does that mean that US and Brazil have the same restrictions?
If so, then it's fair. I can't see any problem.

HeadGames
10-16-08, 19:51
Then you're an idiot, and I can't help you.

Sperto
10-16-08, 20:01
Then you're an idiot, and I can't help you.
:D:D:D:D:D

Jake993
10-16-08, 20:12
Does that mean that US and Brazil have the same restrictions?
If so, then it's fair. I can't see any problem.
What am I missing? Is there a visa problem for Americans wanting to get a visa to Brazil? It's been a few years and mine is due to expire in March 09. Should I expect some trouble?

HeadGames
10-16-08, 20:30
:D:D:D:D:D

Ok, you took that pretty well, so I suppose that I should lighten up and apologize.

My problem is that your statement is essentially that two wrongs make a right. But they don't, and we should all know that already.

My original statement, which I stand by, and is manifestly self-evident, is that if the Brazilian government (and I should be careful to say "government", which is not the same as the Brazilian people, who IN NO WAY benefit from their government's policies) would get rid of their stupid visa policy, then more American tourists would come.

"Fair" has to nothing to do with it. The US government should of course change their visa policy. But again, two wrongs don't make a right.

There is another saying that applies well here. "Cut off your nose to spite your face". The Brazilian government is trying to get even with the American government, but the American government couldn't care less. It is the Brazilian people who suffer.

My final word on the subject.

HG

Jake993
10-16-08, 20:42
Ok, you took that pretty well, so I suppose that I should lighten up and apologize.

My problem is that your statement is essentially that two wrongs make a right. But they don't, and we should all know that already.

My original statement, which I stand by, and is manifestly self-evident, is that if the Brazilian government (and I should be careful to say "government", which is not the same as the Brazilian people, who IN NO WAY benefit from their government's policies) would get rid of their stupid visa policy, then more American tourists would come.

"Fair" has to nothing to do with it. The US government should of course change their visa policy. But again, two wrongs don't make a right.

There is another saying that applies well here. "Cut off your nose to spite your face". The Brazilian government is trying to get even with the American government, but the American government couldn't care less. It is the Brazilian people who suffer.

My final word on the subject.

HG
Had me going there for a second. ;)
BTW - the Brazilian government is in no way alone in "cutting it's nose off to spite it's face" over the visa policies of the US State Department... hold on..... I suppose it's Homeland Security now. Not that it matters.

Wandering Fool
10-16-08, 22:51
What do you guys think of the feasibility of stocking a cruise ship with Brazilian GDP's, parking it off the east coast of the USA (outside NYC, Boston etc), keeping it in international waters and basically having an offshore Termas?

Guys could go for weekends, maybe just for 1 night and have a payment structure like in a Termas.

Up until recently, I could have envisioned this being a hot ticket with the Wallstreeters.

Any thoughts?

David68
10-16-08, 23:47
What do you guys think of the feasibility of stocking a cruise ship with Brazilian GDP's, parking it off the east coast of the USA (outside NYC, Boston etc), keeping it in international waters and basically having an offshore Termas?

Guys could go for weekends, maybe just for 1 night and have a payment structure like in a Termas.

Up until recently, I could have envisioned this being a hot ticket with the Wallstreeters.

Any thoughts?Make sure you have a great lawyer.

Balluba
10-17-08, 00:28
What do you guys think of the feasibility of stocking a cruise ship with Brazilian GDP's, parking it off the east coast of the USA (outside NYC, Boston etc), keeping it in international waters and basically having an offshore Termas?

Guys could go for weekends, maybe just for 1 night and have a payment structure like in a Termas.

Up until recently, I could have envisioned this being a hot ticket with the Wallstreeters.

Any thoughts?

Perhaps a decent livelihood for female fired ex-Wallstreeters and funds pushers?

Bimbo Boy
10-17-08, 00:43
... The Brazilian government is trying to get even with the American government, but the American government couldn't care less. It is the Brazilian people who suffer. ...
My idea of Hell on Earth is ... too many Americans going to Brazil ... the Brazilians listening to the Yankee advisors too much ... Termas and prostitution being legally banned ... and Brazil becoming a sex prison just like the USA ...
My idea of Heaven on Earth ... a USA where judges, lawyers and bankers have disappeared, where women are slim and actually romantic, where military spending is instead being spent on healthcare for all.
LOL
BB.

SavePros321
10-17-08, 01:51
What do you guys think of the feasibility of stocking a cruise ship with Brazilian GDP's, parking it off the east coast of the USA (outside NYC, Boston etc), keeping it in international waters and basically having an offshore Termas?

Guys could go for weekends, maybe just for 1 night and have a payment structure like in a Termas.

Up until recently, I could have envisioned this being a hot ticket with the Wallstreeters.

Any thoughts?

The minute Code Pink discovers this operation, the clipped-haired, mean-faced dykes will raise an armada and race out to sink your floating brothel.

In theory it would be a nice idea. But the fems will have none of it. That's why we Americanos travel as far south as possible...

Chi Town Hustler
10-17-08, 02:11
The Europeans come in numbers in August? There is a peak with Italians in August, but most Europeans definitely go between Dezember-March in high-season to avoid the European winter.

It would be interesting to see some statistics of foreign tourism in Brazil. I can't say I ever seen many Americans in Rio, except for the two blocks in Copa that holds MP, TA, Help and Domino's Pizza. The gringos I see in Rio is just a big mixture of all nationalities. Europeans, Russians, Japanese, Americans etc.

I can imagine that Americans are the most popular customers among the Copa-GP's. The reason is very simple. They overpay without complains.

No way I am suggesting that the girls prefer Americans over Europeans I only reporting my conversation I had with my favorite girl and her friend. I am very positive if I was a European client they would have said everyone can't wait until the Europeans come back because everyone makes money and having fun.

Yes many Americans over pay and many have not been off them two blocks of Copa but I think that can be said for the Europeans. I was in Recife for a month a few years back I checked out this German owned restaurant/bar/club club called Bamboos as I sat and observed the situation I over heard this German client agree to R400 for a session now if anyone has visited the north east of Brasil the price of R400 is considered a joke and that was just one situation of over paying.

These girls are in love with the money it don't matter for most girls if she getting it from Americans or Europeans most of these girls will lie, beg, steal and say all sort of shit for the gringos to get his money.

Bimbo Boy
10-17-08, 02:11
What do you guys think of the feasibility of stocking a cruise ship with Brazilian GDP's, parking it off the east coast of the USA (outside NYC, Boston etc), keeping it in international waters and basically having an offshore Termas?
Guys could go for weekends, maybe just for 1 night and have a payment structure like in a Termas ... Any thoughts?There something resembling what you describe ... it's called The Dominican Republic. 50 years ago, it was called Cuba ...
Regards.
BB.

George90
10-17-08, 06:05
what do you guys think of the feasibility of stocking a cruise ship with brazilian gdp's, parking it off the east coast of the usa (outside nyc, boston etc), keeping it in international waters and basically having an offshore termas?

guys could go for weekends, maybe just for 1 night and have a payment structure like in a termas.

up until recently, i could have envisioned this being a hot ticket with the wallstreeters.

any thoughts?

wasn't that done already a few years back?

i remember some minnesota vikings players got jammed up for pulling something similar. i think i read a post here about some americans who did that off the brazilian coast and got arrested. some gdps wanted more money and claimed they were kidnapped and raped by the owners.

this sounds like one of those ideas that's great on paper but doesn't quite work in practice.

Prosal
10-17-08, 10:26
Termas and prostitution being legally banned and Brazil becoming a sex prison just like the USA ...
Could happen.

Remember that there's some 41.000.000 born-again Xtian evangelists in Brasil (21% of the population), something like 3.600.000 for the only Rio de Janeiro state.

Brasil is FAR to be the carefree, fun-loving and uncomplicated sex-paradise that most gringo mongers please themselves to imagine.

Exec Talent
10-17-08, 11:34
when this was a report thread where people in Rio or whom had just been in Rio wrote about what was happening at the time in Rio.

It was Cowboy theme night at L'uomo. It didn't do much to help business. The idea about bringing in more Brazilians has not taken off. Until about 11:30 there were probably 15 guys and 40 girls many sitting around complaining about the lack of business. At 11:30 a couple groups came in and things picked up.

Monte Carlo had about the same numbers the other night, however guys who were at Centaurus this week, said it was busy. The significance of all this is that more girls are looking to do work outside the clubs and for lower prices.

Jay Rollin
10-17-08, 12:25
exec,

is it easier to get the centro termas girls to work the weekends, since they are closed or the copa girl to stay over night? it has been 50/50 in the past for me at lluomo. half the time they would actually meet me back at the hotel (even then the performance was not as good because as previous posters wrote. they have been working all day and night. one pop and sleep/out) and the other half of the time i'd be waiting for nothing. again this was in july. different times now, i'm assuming. one other disadvantage is that your waiting at the hotel for the girl after midnight and then you wasted the night. help or franks would be the option.

what would you say they going rate would be. around r$150. 200 for tln? or lower?

i perfer terma girls to helpee girls. obviously because you see the goods (and get to experience it) where as the helpee girl are a shot in the dark. it seems that the rates were pretty equal with the early candidates at helpee asking almost double and then reducing as the night went on.

i'm looking forward to november so i can add some value to the forum.

thanks

Balluba
10-17-08, 17:48
Brasil is FAR to be the carefree, fun-loving and uncomplicated sex-paradise that most gringo mongers please themselves to imagine.

I am sure more than me have observed The little Holy Book in the purse of the programa/non-pro girl, you bring to your apartment. It's pretty sweet, it means that she is an extra good girl :-)

There are several ways to practice their religion than, for example, the strict Italian version.

Sorry ET ;-)

Jamaicanceo
10-17-08, 18:59
when this was a report thread where people in Rio or whom had just been in Rio wrote about what was happening at the time in Rio.

It was Cowboy theme night at L'uomo. It didn't do much to help business. The idea about bringing in more Brazilians has not taken off. Until about 11:30 there were probably 15 guys and 40 girls many sitting around complaining about the lack of business. At 11:30 a couple groups came in and things picked up.

Monte Carlo had about the same numbers the other night, however guys who were at Centaurus this week, said it was busy. The significance of all this is that more girls are looking to do work outside the clubs and for lower prices.Thanks for the report ET. I will be in Rio for 10 days in December. I am also trying to put together another before then. I have to fly from california.

Exec Talent
10-18-08, 17:06
This one will not be hard to find. I saw her at Balcony but it would not surprise me if she shows up in front of or in Help. I am not saying you should not go with her, just be very careful. My experience ...

I was at sitting outside Balcony catching a drink and waiting for my regular girl when I spotted a very hot young blond, Amanda, at the bar. She had on a top that exposed most of her very tight stomach and a jeans jacket. By far, the hottest girl there. So I call her over and buy her a drink. I call my regular girl and ask her if she is up for a threesome. She was so I ask Amanda if she likes girls and she said she had just broken up with her girlfriend. Good sign. Then it started to get a little strange.

She said she was there from Nova Iguacu and was with her brother. Claimed that this was her first time working, that she needed to pay for college and that her father was ill. She would periodically get up to use the bathroom, bum a cigarette and talk with her "brother" to whom at one point she introduced me. She had tried to get me to buy her cigarettes but I told her I only had credit cards and they won't let you buy them with credit. She then asked me to buy her some food from the vendors around Balcony. I said again, sorry no cash but my girl may have some when she arrives.

My girl does arrive and she thinks Amanda is pretty hot too. I slip my girl R$5 to give to Amanda and she goes off to get some churrasco and I believe feed her "brother." Every time she leaves she leaves her oversized purse.

Finally we go back to my place and Amanda indeed is into girls. She also is even hotter with her clothes off. The problem was she immediately started talking about needing to get back to her "brother" and get back to Nova Iguacu. We all had a little wine which apparently did not mix well with the Caipirinhas since Amanda lost it after about 10 minutes of going down on me. She said she really had to go but did repeatedly apologized for making a mess. As she was leaving she asked if she could have the change on the table.

Amanda may be fine without her “brother” hanging around (she only stayed an hour). She sure is hot with and without her clothes. If you do decide to see her, negotiate everything up front and proceed with caution. She first asked for a ridiculous amount of money, then tried to nickel and dime me for everything and when she arrived at my place she wanted her money upfront. As we were leaving Balcony a girl called her over and said “amiga” when I asked Amanda she said she had just met the girl. When I asked the girl she said they went to college together and named the exact school that Amanda said she attended in Nova Iguacu. Who knows, maybe it was field trip day to Balcony.

Footnote: There was a large group of about 30 tourists from Austria at Balcony. I asked them what they thought of the place and one older guy winked at me and said, "very interesting."

Exec Talent
10-18-08, 17:13
exec,

is it easier to get the centro termas girls to work the weekends, since they are closed or the copa girl to stay over night? it has been 50/50 in the past for me at lluomo. half the time they would actually meet me back at the hotel (even then the performance was not as good because as previous posters wrote. they have been working all day and night. one pop and sleep/out) and the other half of the time i'd be waiting for nothing. again this was in july. different times now, i'm assuming. one other disadvantage is that your waiting at the hotel for the girl after midnight and then you wasted the night. help or franks would be the option.

what would you say they going rate would be. around r$150. 200 for tln? or lower?

i perfer terma girls to helpee girls. obviously because you see the goods (and get to experience it) where as the helpee girl are a shot in the dark. it seems that the rates were pretty equal with the early candidates at helpee asking almost double and then reducing as the night went on.

i'm looking forward to november so i can add some value to the forum.

thanks


jay -- tried to send you a pm but you cannot accept them. you may need to buy a subscription to isg. a good investment.

Azn Safado
10-18-08, 21:41
exec,

is it easier to get the centro termas girls to work the weekends, since they are closed or the copa girl to stay over night? it has been 50/50 in the past for me at lluomo. half the time they would actually meet me back at the hotel (even then the performance was not as good because as previous posters wrote. they have been working all day and night. one pop and sleep/out) and the other half of the time i'd be waiting for nothing. again this was in july. different times now, i'm assuming. one other disadvantage is that your waiting at the hotel for the girl after midnight and then you wasted the night. help or franks would be the option.

what would you say they going rate would be. around r$150. 200 for tln? or lower?

i perfer terma girls to helpee girls. obviously because you see the goods (and get to experience it) where as the helpee girl are a shot in the dark. it seems that the rates were pretty equal with the early candidates at helpee asking almost double and then reducing as the night went on.

i'm looking forward to november so i can add some value to the forum.

thanks

i was in rio in september and pulled a luomo girl out for $r200 tln. however, it was the one pop and sleep out performance. let's say her performance was about an 8.75 inside the terma and a 5 outside the terma.

Icyhoteric
10-18-08, 21:55
Hey guys, slightly off topic but there isn't a Petropolis section. I'm heading out there and might be there as long as 36 hours to visit a friend and probably will have some alone time. Does anyone know of any sure thing places I can make some friends, not thinking escorts... Any help is greatly appreciated. It will be a weekday during the first week in November... I already have a driver both ways... thanks.

Exec Talent
10-18-08, 22:21
One to avoid. There is no WMMV here. She is a very hot morena and I could see a lot of guys going for her, just don't. About 5' 6" thin, curly hair very beautiful. She has a small tatoo on her hand. I rarely have just terrible experiences but this time I did. Rarely do you meet a Brazilian with bad hygeine. This time I did.

One to avoid. So bad, I may even post a picture. Picture now posted in photo gallery.

Update: You definitely will be seeing a picture of this one. She stole the change that was on my table!!!

David68
10-18-08, 23:22
I rarely have just terrible experiences but this time I did. Rarely do you meet a Brazilian with bad hygeine. This time I did.

One to avoid. So bad, I may even post a picture.Well I think you should show who she is so other guys don't get ripped off. I don't want to fan the flames of the oldest argument on ISG because some of us share different opinions, but if she ripped you off why protect her? JMHO

Jamaicanceo
10-18-08, 23:49
I rarely have just terrible experiences but this time I did. Rarely do you meet a Brazilian with bad hygeine. This time I did.

One to avoid. So bad, I may even post a picture.Well I think you should show who she is so other guys don't get ripped off. I don't want to fan the flames of the oldest argument on ISG because some of us share different opinions, but if she ripped you off why protect her? JMHO

Jan 156
10-19-08, 04:52
Hey guys, slightly off topic but there isn't a Petropolis section.


I haven't searched the 'Other Areas' thread but doubt if you'll find much info on Petropolis. It's a lovely town, nice and cool, quiet, lots of families, not a lot of English spoken. Finding pdp is pretty hard - I may have posted my own attempts, can't remember. You aren't very likely to meet many westerners as far as I can see.

Mr Enternational
10-19-08, 07:15
Hey guys, slightly off topic but there isn't a Petropolis section. I'm heading out there and might be there as long as 36 hours to visit a friend and probably will have some alone time. Does anyone know of any sure thing places I can make some friends, not thinking escorts... Any help is greatly appreciated. It will be a weekday during the first week in November... I already have a driver both ways... thanks.
I advise you to have her come to the capital or else you will spend your downtime bored and lonely.

Jamaicanceo
10-19-08, 07:30
Well I think you should show who she is so other guys don't get ripped off. I don't want to fan the flames of the oldest argument on ISG because some of us share different opinions, but if she ripped you off why protect her? JMHOSorry. This wasn't what I wanted to post.

Sprite13
10-19-08, 08:17
Hey guys, slightly off topic but there isn't a Petropolis section. I'm heading out there and might be there as long as 36 hours to visit a friend and probably will have some alone time. Does anyone know of any sure thing places I can make some friends, not thinking escorts... Any help is greatly appreciated. It will be a weekday during the first week in November... I already have a driver both ways... thanks.

Petropolis is a place that you usually go with your own girl. Unless you speak near fluent portuguese and or are young and have game to get a local one. Otherwise, its strictly BYOG there.

All the best.

Sperto
10-19-08, 08:27
Hey guys, slightly off topic but there isn't a Petropolis section. I'm heading out there and might be there as long as 36 hours to visit a friend and probably will have some alone time. Does anyone know of any sure thing places I can make some friends, not thinking escorts... Any help is greatly appreciated. It will be a weekday during the first week in November... I already have a driver both ways... thanks.
My suggestion is that you forget p***y during these 36 hours and enjoy the city. Petrópolis is a nice and historical interesting city with beautiful surroundings. The brazilian emperors used to spend their summer holidays here.

Not too far away from Petropolis you'll find the city of Teresópolis. Teresópolis surroundings are very impressive. You can visit the national park of Serra dos Órgãos. Lots of beautiful mountain peaks and a great climate.

Both cities are supposed to have a couple of Casas de Massagens with P4P. I havn't tried these casas myself and can't give you any addresses (try GPGuia).
BTW, my experience is that all cities, villages and even the smallest settlements in Brazil have some kind of P4P. No exceptions.

Rodeo9112
10-19-08, 23:56
I just booked my plane tix to Rio for a week in January.

God help me!

Rodeo

Perkele
10-20-08, 10:22
I just booked my plane tix to Rio for a week in January.

God help me!

Rodeo

I agree. One week is too short. You'll regret not to stay longer.

Have fun though.

Amerioca
10-20-08, 15:52
In Rio. Last night, I visited MC, and was not impressed with the talent. I gave it two hours, and departed without pulling. Strike two, same experience as last month. Ended up at Help. Pulled a 19 y/o morena by the name of Jacqueline.

Today, it is a merchant holiday. Majority of stores are closed. Plan to go to 4X4, however, it may be closed. Will call. If that is a no go, I'll visit Solarium in early evening.

These past few days, the weather has been cloudy and/or raining. Furthermore, the temp. has been in the low 70's....brrrrrrr. Have yet to hit the beach scene. Forecast says sun on Weds.

Amerioca
10-20-08, 16:02
It was Cowboy theme night at L'uomo. It didn't do much to help business. The idea about bringing in more Brazilians has not taken off. Until about 11:30 there were probably 15 guys and 40 girls many sitting around complaining about the lack of business. At 11:30 a couple groups came in and things picked up.


I was there on Friday. Priscilla had the best cowgirl outfit. Didn't pull until late. Left around 12:30, and there were only a few guys in the bar, none in the relax room.

Amerioca
10-20-08, 16:13
JFYI: Just called 4X4, and is open today. It's on, I'm outta here....heh.

Jay Rollin
10-20-08, 18:46
Exec,

I should have signed up before my last trip in July.

Cash is in the mail. They say a week (I followed all the directions).

PM you as soon as I get access.

Java Man
10-20-08, 21:31
One to avoid. There is no WMMV here. She is a very hot morena and I could see a lot of guys going for her, just don't. About 5' 6" thin, curly hair very beautiful. She has a small tatoo on her hand. I rarely have just terrible experiences but this time I did. Rarely do you meet a Brazilian with bad hygeine. This time I did.

One to avoid. So bad, I may even post a picture. Picture now posted in photo gallery.

Update: You definitely will be seeing a picture of this one. She stole the change that was on my table!!!

Well I think you should show who she is so other guys don't get ripped off. I don't want to fan the flames of the oldest argument on ISG because some of us share different opinions, but if she ripped you off why protect her? JMHO

Well I think you should show who she is so other guys don't get ripped off. I don't want to fan the flames of the oldest argument on ISG because some of us share different opinions, but if she ripped you off why protect her? JMHO
Great Minds think alike.... :)

Sorry. This wasn't what I wanted to post.
Huh?
(I think your alias is showing)
BTW, The pic is posted in the Photo Gallery. Beer Goggles, ET? :D She doesn't look HOT in that Pic.

Java Man
10-20-08, 21:38
For those unfamiliar with the term, here's how it works: :D
http://mithuro.com/presscuefiles/january/beer_goggle.swf

Rio Bob
10-20-08, 21:58
For those unfamiliar with the term, here's how it works: :D
http://mithuro.com/presscuefiles/january/beer_goggle.swf

I'm not even sure a pair of beer goggles would help that one but what do I know that's not my level of social circle.

Exec Talent
10-21-08, 03:08
Great Minds think alike.... :)

Huh?
(I think your alias is showing)
BTW, The pic is posted in the Photo Gallery. Beer Goggles, ET? :D She doesn't look HOT in that Pic.

I really suck at taking photos indoors. I think it is my camera settings. My outdoor day time photos turn out real well. She is a pretty girl who was wearing no makeup. Some of you guys would run the other way if you saw the termas girls in bright light without all their make up.

Exec Talent
10-21-08, 04:11
Oops, they did it again.

Just in time for the recession, Solarium has raised their prices.

Entrance: R$65
40 Minute Room: R$70
40 Minute Girl: R$150
Total: R$285

Entrance: R$65
1 hr Room: R$95
1 hr Girl: R$250
Total: R$410

I had the Monday coupon for a free cabine (which I think is no longer on their site).

Today was a holiday in Rio (Commerce Day) so there were a lot of Brazilians hanging out. I got there around 7:30 PM and the talent was pretty good. Like MC, almost all the girls were fair skinned.

I first went to the room with Geovana. As Forest would say, "and that is all I have to say about that."

Later I went with Cris who turned out to be a real sweetheart and is recommended.


If you are staying Copa I would think twice about making the trip especially if they discontinue the Monday discount. First you have to pay a taxi to and from which is about R$12 each way. Then you have the increase in rates. Also, when I have been there there were a lot of Brazilians who just drink and waste the girl's time which often makes it hard to connect and to even see the girls. Does anyone know if Brazilans pay the same entrance fee?

One other thing to note is that I was charged R$13 for a "Special" Caipirinha which was made with more expensive Cachaça. I asked about it while they were making it, but thought it was the norm. I didn't realize it was get over on the gringo time until later. It was extremely small to boot. Of course I got asked for a tip by the receptionist which I politely declined to give.

If you plan to pay the girl's charge with a CC plan to pay an extra R$25 per session.

Dwilso39
10-21-08, 17:41
In Rio. Last night, I visited MC, and was not impressed with the talent. I gave it two hours, and departed without pulling. Strike two, same experience as last month. Ended up at Help. Pulled a 19 y/o morena by the name of Jacqueline.

Today, it is a merchant holiday. Majority of stores are closed. Plan to go to 4X4, however, it may be closed. Will call. If that is a no go, I'll visit Solarium in early evening.

These past few days, the weather has been cloudy and/or raining. Furthermore, the temp. has been in the low 70's....brrrrrrr. Have yet to hit the beach scene. Forecast says sun on Weds.Do you have any pics of Jaquline?

How was the sessions?

Dwilso39
10-22-08, 02:06
In Rio. Last night, I visited MC, and was not impressed with the talent. I gave it two hours, and departed without pulling. Strike two, same experience as last month. Ended up at Help. Pulled a 19 y/o morena by the name of Jacqueline.

Today, it is a merchant holiday. Majority of stores are closed. Plan to go to 4X4, however, it may be closed. Will call. If that is a no go, I'll visit Solarium in early evening.

These past few days, the weather has been cloudy and/or raining. Furthermore, the temp. has been in the low 70's....brrrrrrr. Have yet to hit the beach scene. Forecast says sun on Weds.What did Jacquline look like?

How was the Sex?

How much?

Exec Talent
10-22-08, 11:59
What did Jacquline look like?

How was the Sex?

How much?


If I recall you were supposed to be in Rio from 10/13 - 10/19.
Where are YOUR reports?

Jake993
10-22-08, 13:36
If you plan to pay the girl's charge with a CC plan to pay an extra R$25 per session.

I was in L'uomo on a Sunday afternoon a few weeks back. On my way out I went to the front desk, inspected the bill and asked if I could pay by CC. She said ok and processed the CC. The amount I signed for (and the amount that showed up on the statement yesterday) were exactly the same as what was on the tab.

Do they run a special on weekends? CC same as cash? Maybe it's a Sunday afternoon special?

Anyone? anyone?

Exec Talent
10-22-08, 13:56
I was in L'uomo on a Sunday afternoon a few weeks back. On my way out I went to the front desk, inspected the bill and asked if I could pay by CC. She said ok and processed the CC. The amount I signed for (and the amount that showed up on the statement yesterday) were exactly the same as what was on the tab.

Do they run a special on weekends? CC same as cash? Maybe it's a Sunday afternoon special?

Anyone? anyone?

At L'uomo there is a sign in the reception area that states you can pay everything with CC and there are no extra charges. They usually do this during slow season so be sure to ask.

At Solarium I called ahead and asked and they said there would be a R$25 charge per session.

At Monte Carlo I was told the same thing, but talked with the manager and got it waved. He was standing right at reception when I checked out and directed the receptionist not to charge me for using a credit card.

At 4x4 you can pay everything on a CC with no additional charges.

BTW, there is a lot of credit card profiling going on these days based on where you use your card. My card got cloned in Rio and I had to talk with the security personnel to review the legitimate charges. When it came to Hugo's Bar (L'uomo) they said to me it was a massage parlor. Also on the online detail it appears as L'uomo. People may want to consider that before they use their CCs.

Dwilso39
10-22-08, 17:20
If I recall you were supposed to be in Rio from 10/13 - 10/19.
Where are YOUR reports?I will be posting soon.

Dwilso39
10-22-08, 17:34
Day 1.

The apartment I rented had the drive pic me up from the Airport; $50R. I got the keys from the driver and settled into the apt. I called my friend that has already been there for two-weeks. First up; 4x4.

For the first time I caught the train to cental. I was really a easy. I stayed for about an hour, didn't see anyone I like so I decided to leave and go back to Copa.

In Copa, I goto MP to see if there is any afternoon action and there she was: Particia 1. I called her Particia 1 becuase I meet about three of them.

She came over and stared to ask for the money up-fornt! ? I said, "I have the money and I will pay you when you leave". She says shes sorry but some guys have been trying to change the deal on her at the end and she wanted to be paid up-front.

Anyway, the sex was nothing special, but she really tried hard to please me.

Pics attached.

Ken_Apples
10-22-08, 20:24
Oops, they did it again.
Just in time for the recession, Solarium has raised their prices.

Entrance: R$65
40 Minute Room: R$70
40 Minute Girl: R$150
Total: R$285

Entrance: R$65
1 hr Room: R$95
1 hr Girl: R$250
Total: R$410

If you plan to pay the girl's charge with a CC plan to pay an extra R$25 per session.

Excuse my french, but WTF is this?!

In europe, (in the MOST expensive countries) I pay the same amount (equals 400 RS) for 1 hour of Pay-for-Play.

WTF is that? -This Is Brazil!!! ( A 3rd world country!!!)

If prices have gone out of the window lately, I will only, ONLY engage in non pro action (and that can be quite expensive as well, lesson learned the hard way)

To make a comparison, you can go to the Denmark section in Europe, and then look at the copenhagen sub-section of this forum.

I can have a young, BRAZILIAN good looking girl in Denmark for less!!! (no room charge!)

Heck, if I want to have a fit, Pamela Andersen copy (Model/10's face, platina blonde & HUGE silicone tits) I can get that for LESS money as well.

This report (Thank you Exec Talent -always good reports!) pisses me off.

Someone is pocketing a lot of money, and I dare to say It's not the girls.

Next (Brazil) travel will be to Fortaleza - Who can stand that Rio bullsh*t prices?? I have that back at home.

Gentlemen! - when someone is Pissing in your face, are you going to pay him to continue do it, or will you put your well earned money where you get a good bang for the buck instead?

Happy hunting! / Ken Apples

Gfe Finder
10-23-08, 00:02
Excuse my french, but WTF is this?!

In europe, (in the MOST expensive countries) I pay the same amount (equals 400 RS) for 1 hour of Pay-for-Play.

WTF is that? -This Is Brazil!!! ( A 3rd world country!!!)

If prices have gone out of the window lately, I will only, ONLY engage in non pro action (and that can be quite expensive as well, lesson learned the hard way)

To make a comparison, you can go to the Denmark section in Europe, and then look at the copenhagen sub-section of this forum.

I can have a young, BRAZILIAN good looking girl in Denmark for less!!! (no room charge!)

Heck, if I want to have a fit, Pamela Andersen copy (Model/10's face, platina blonde & HUGE silicone tits) I can get that for LESS money as well.

This report (Thank you Exec Talent -always good reports!) pisses me off.

Someone is pocketing a lot of money, and I dare to say It's not the girls.

Next (Brazil) travel will be to Fortaleza - Who can stand that Rio bullsh*t prices?? I have that back at home.

Gentlemen! - when someone is Pissing in your face, are you going to pay him to continue do it, or will you put your well earned money where you get a good bang for the buck instead?

Happy hunting! / Ken Apples


A highly volatile exchange rate complicates things, but here’s what I get for 1 hour of sex in Rio vs. Europe (specifically, FKK World or Oase):

1 hour in Rio = R$410, today’s exchange rate = 2.38:1 USD, so cost is approximately $173.
1 hour in FKK = 165 Euros (50 / ½ hour x 2, plus 65 Euro entrance fee), today’s exchange rate = 1.28:1 USD, so cost is approximately $211.

You mentioned that an hour in the Lovehouses of Denmark is 250 Euro which is $320.

This makes sense to me, anyway: 3rd world costs are less than 1st world, and Germany is the cheapest P4P place in Western Europe.

Gruhmbards
10-23-08, 05:49
I arrived to Galeao airport late in the night, Thursday oct 16th. I hade made a car reservation with Hertz and they were expecting me, GPS is a must have item in Rio.

My plan was to drive at that time to 2 places I had never been before and did want to visit due to the many reccomendations of friends.

1st stop. Boate Subsolo. Ex subway, Av Rio Branco 20 (or very close number). It was not a good day to go there, the better girl was a 3, too many drunks and not a nice and friendly environment. Stayed for 30 minutes just to see and feel the place.

2nd stop. Vila Mimosa, get a parking lot for Rs4 and started to walk. Many many girls all arround, level was 5 or less.

Exploring the different houses I found a diamond, one of the best pair of tits I've seen in my life.

Started a dialogue and arranged for RS 150 "toda la noite" at my hotel.

We headed out the place to the car and this georgous lady asked if I had some "white" with me as she needed some.

Due to the fact that I don't bare drugs I told her to go back to her place.

She tried to make a scandal trying to get some cash from me because of the lost time, I simply told her that we should go to a police station near by so to clarify the situation and she inmediately start running back to her place.

(I need to clarify that my portuguese is more than fluent and is very difficult to perceive I am not brazilian, but be aware of any of this kind of "money compensation for nothing" some of these girls can try with you).

I said to myself it was enough for the night so I headed Copacabana for my hotel, and obviously HELP was on my way.

I made a stop there, get int the place and things have changed very much since my last visit last December.

It was late (3am), lots of girls dancing alone, average level was a 5.

Spoke to some, not very enthusiastic, a blonde with huge but fake tits tried to convinced me that she had shared by bed sometime ago, and she was willing to continue to be my "novia" during my stay in Rio.

A very tall lady that obviously wasn't born as a girl tempted me to try "something different".

Was enough for me and I decided to go to make my check in at the hotel and have some sleep.

When going to the door a spectacular mulata that I didn't noticed during my stay stopped and asked for a cigarrette.

From his accent I noted she was not from Rio but from Minas Gerais, I asked about that and she told me that she was from Bahia but lived many years in Minas and that was the origin of her voice tone (sutaque). Her name is Sara.

I had a wonderfull and charmy conversation with her and told her that I was going to be in Rio for three days and she offered to be my companion full time, and told me a ridiculous number, something like 100K Rs for the job of being with me as a permanent companion.

I laughed and tell her that she obviously was worth that money but I was not into that, that I wasn't interested on what she was selling.

Her answer was: don't be silly, you give me RS 250 per day and I will be your sex trainee for your holiday. You can wear me as a hat with no complains on my side. (I am trying to make a direct translation of what we spoke in portuguese).

Final of the story: I had the companion of wonderfull morena, a nine in all aspects, very good sex, and a very charming companion when not in bed.

She only asked for 2 or 3 hours free during the afternoons to take care of personal issues as her mother and one sister live with her, after that time she returned to my hotel. (I always make reservations for 2 so there is no problem taking someone to your room).

I don't have photograps, but do have her phone number and she authorized me to give it to "friends" visiting Rio.

If any interested just send me a request.

Sperto
10-23-08, 09:09
1st stop. Boate Subsolo. Ex subway, Av Rio Branco 20 (or very close number). It was not a good day to go there, the better girl was a 3, too many drunks and not a nice and friendly environment. Stayed for 30 minutes just to see and feel the place.
Nice report.
Just a small correction, the correct address should be Av Rio Branco 14.

Exec Talent
10-23-08, 13:11
Balcony Bar usually looks like the bar scene from Star Wars but most of the times it is Brazilian girls and gringos. Last night it was packed but I noticed a significant number of unsavory Brazilian guys roaming around inside and outside. These were neither the homeless nor the street vendors.

Be careful and do not have anything exposed in your pockets that can be easily picked. It was a little chilly but I moved with my girl to an outside table nonetheless.

Spinnerman
10-23-08, 13:33
Balcony Bar usually looks like the bar scene from Star Wars but most of the times it is Brazilian girls and gringos. Last night it was packed but I noticed a significant number of unsavory Brazilian guys roaming around inside and outside. These were neither the homeless nor the street vendors.

Be careful and do not have anything exposed in your pockets that can be easily picked. It was a little chilly but I moved with my girl to an outside table nonetheless.
Hey I was there last night as well ( I'm there most nights, it's my Cheers ) LOL
You should tell me who you are so I can say Hi , I was sitting at the outside table with two black girls most of the night then I was in. I'm the tall brown haired 50ish caucasian , usually dresses in black with two gold earrings

Jay Rollin
10-23-08, 15:16
I arrived to Galeao airport late in the night, Thursday oct 16th. I hade made a car reservation with Hertz and they were expecting me, GPS is a must have item in Rio.

My plan was to drive at that time to 2 places I had never been before and did want to visit due to the many reccomendations of friends.

1st stop. Boate Subsolo. Ex subway, Av Rio Branco 20 (or very close number). It was not a good day to go there, the better girl was a 3, too many drunks and not a nice and friendly environment. Stayed for 30 minutes just to see and feel the place.

2nd stop. Vila Mimosa, get a parking lot for Rs4 and started to walk. Many many girls all arround, level was 5 or less.

Exploring the different houses I found a diamond, one of the best pair of tits I've seen in my life.

Started a dialogue and arranged for RS 150 "toda la noite" at my hotel.

We headed out the place to the car and this georgous lady asked if I had some "white" with me as she needed some.

Due to the fact that I don't bare drugs I told her to go back to her place.

She tried to make a scandal trying to get some cash from me because of the lost time, I simply told her that we should go to a police station near by so to clarify the situation and she inmediately start running back to her place.

(I need to clarify that my portuguese is more than fluent and is very difficult to perceive I am not brazilian, but be aware of any of this kind of "money compensation for nothing" some of these girls can try with you).

I said to myself it was enough for the night so I headed Copacabana for my hotel, and obviously HELP was on my way.

I made a stop there, get int the place and things have changed very much since my last visit last December.

It was late (3am), lots of girls dancing alone, average level was a 5.

Spoke to some, not very enthusiastic, a blonde with huge but fake tits tried to convinced me that she had shared by bed sometime ago, and she was willing to continue to be my "novia" during my stay in Rio.

A very tall lady that obviously wasn't born as a girl tempted me to try "something different".

Was enough for me and I decided to go to make my check in at the hotel and have some sleep.

When going to the door a spectacular mulata that I didn't noticed during my stay stopped and asked for a cigarrette.

From his accent I noted she was not from Rio but from Minas Gerais, I asked about that and she told me that she was from Bahia but lived many years in Minas and that was the origin of her voice tone (sutaque). Her name is Sara.

I had a wonderfull and charmy conversation with her and told her that I was going to be in Rio for three days and she offered to be my companion full time, and told me a ridiculous number, something like 100K Rs for the job of being with me as a permanent companion.

I laughed and tell her that she obviously was worth that money but I was not into that, that I wasn't interested on what she was selling.

Her answer was: don't be silly, you give me RS 250 per day and I will be your sex trainee for your holiday. You can wear me as a hat with no complains on my side. (I am trying to make a direct translation of what we spoke in portuguese).

Final of the story: I had the companion of wonderfull morena, a nine in all aspects, very good sex, and a very charming companion when not in bed.

She only asked for 2 or 3 hours free during the afternoons to take care of personal issues as her mother and one sister live with her, after that time she returned to my hotel. (I always make reservations for 2 so there is no problem taking someone to your room).

I don't have photograps, but do have her phone number and she authorized me to give it to "friends" visiting Rio.

If any interested just send me a request.I'd be interested. PM should be up shortly. Any other characteristics, height, hair, eye, chest, butt, etc. IYHO would she be ok with a non portugeuse speaker (who is looking for lessons)? Did she stay at your Hotel unattended or were you with her all the time?

Will PM as soon as possible. Be there in a couple of weeks.

Sun Seeker
10-23-08, 16:42
Spain is still very good value compared to inflated Rio prices and strong real.

40 minutes in one of the large establishments in Madrid or Barcelona is 90 euros or 261 reals.

One hour in one of the top class establishments (giant room with jacuzzi, private bathroom) is still 150 euros or 425 euros.

Both of these establishments have the cream of South America's hottest women. But the service tends to be more business like.

The women tend to pay a flat fee per day to the establishment and any money they make on top they keep. Since they can make 10-15k euros per month and there are no visa issues, working in Spain is an easy choice for Brazilian women.


A highly volatile exchange rate complicates things, but here’s what I get for 1 hour of sex in Rio vs. Europe (specifically, FKK World or Oase):

1 hour in Rio = R$410, today’s exchange rate = 2.38:1 USD, so cost is approximately $173.

1 hour in FKK = 165 Euros (50 / ½ hour x 2, plus 65 Euro entrance fee), today’s exchange rate = 1.28:1 USD, so cost is approximately $211.

You mentioned that an hour in the Lovehouses of Denmark is 250 Euro which is $320.

This makes sense to me, anyway: 3rd world costs are less than 1st world, and Germany is the cheapest P4P place in Western Europe.

Ken_Apples
10-23-08, 19:32
You can say that twice Sun Seeker - so everyone hear the words.
Also southern spain with the Estark-chain of houses have competitive prices, and good looking girls.

Nowdays Rio gives me a surreal feeling: Like beeing part of Ridely Scott's movie "Alien - Part2". In the beginning the rescue-military team reach the research complex where they find everything is absolutley thrashed and destroyed.

The question is: What the heck happened here??

The same question comes to my mind speaking about the new Rio prices:
What happened? - Anyone can explain or update me, please?

I'm quite clueless, especially as you still can get TLN in Fortaleza for less than 100 RS.

Just my 50 cents , Regards / Ken Apples


Spain is still very good value compared to inflated Rio prices and strong real.

40 minutes in one of the large establishments in Madrid or Barcelona is 90 euros or 261 reals.

One hour in one of the top class establishments (giant room with jacuzzi, private bathroom) is still 150 euros or 425 euros.

Both of these establishments have the cream of South America's hottest women. But the service tends to be more business like.

The women tend to pay a flat fee per day to the establishment and any money they make on top they keep. Since they can make 10-15k euros per month and there are no visa issues, working in Spain is an easy choice for Brazilian women.

Sperto
10-23-08, 19:43
Nowdays Rio gives me a surreal feeling: Like beeing part of Ridely Scott's movie "Alien - Part2". In the beginning the rescue-military team reach the research complex where they find everything is absolutley thrashed and destroyed.
The question is: What the heck happened here??
The same question comes to my mind speaking about the new Rio prices:
What happened? - Anyone can explain or update me, please?
I'm quite clueless, especially as you still can get TLN in Fortaleza for less than 100 RS.
I would say that nothing has changed.
TLN in Fortaleza has always been cheaper than in Rio. Roughly >R$ 80.
On the other hand you have lots of options in Rio for cheap sex, R$ 1/min.
When you go to Rio you don't have to waste a lot of money on upscale termas or Help-girls.

Amerioca
10-23-08, 19:58
What did Jacquline look like?

How was the Sex?

How much?

She is a nice looking morena, at 5' 9'', with a body built for sin. Furthermore, she had a very good attitude (a big plus in book). In bed, she was eager to please. We got along great. Most memorable were her lips....oh my! I would hit it again. Total Cost = $R200.

You can spot her at the southern bar (nearest to bathrooms) inside Help. She usually places herself up against the wall.

El Austriaco
10-23-08, 21:16
The question is: What the heck happened here??

The same question comes to my mind speaking about the new Rio prices:
What happened? - Anyone can explain or update me, please?

I'm quite clueless, especially as you still can get TLN in Fortaleza for less than 100 RS.

1 hour in Rio = R$410, today’s exchange rate = 2.38:1 USD, so cost is approximately $173.
1 hour in FKK = 165 Euros (50 / ½ hour x 2, plus 65 Euro entrance fee), today’s exchange rate = 1.28:1 USD, so cost is approximately $211.

You mentioned that an hour in the Lovehouses of Denmark is 250 Euro which is $320.

40 minutes in one of the large establishments in Madrid or Barcelona is 90 euros or 261 reals.

One hour in one of the top class establishments (giant room with jacuzzi, private bathroom) is still 150 euros or 425 Reais.
Am I the only one to think that we are really comparing apples and oranges, here?

The truth is, Rio termas are and have been for a long time the most expensive P4P option among those that are commonly mentioned here on this board: Help, the Copa outdoor cafes, escorts, and cheaper downtown options/Villa Mimosa. To judge "Rio prices" and compare them solely based on the terma rates as if they were the only choice in town is pretty misleading, I would say. As if R$ 410 for one hour of sex was anywhere close to representative for Rio. And R$ 100 for TLN in Fortaleza is also more fairly compared to Rio freelancers like those you find in Help or MP or Balcony rather than Rio termas. Or are those R$ 100 for a TLN stint with a Fortaleza terma girl? I never had a problem finding TLN in Rio for R$100 to R$150, tops.

From what I have read here, yes, Terma prices have gone up. Seems like they raised prices when the dollar was low, to compensate for a lack of clients (don't ask me how this makes sense; this is not my business logic, BTW), and what do they do now that the dollar is stronger again? Well, they raise prices again as their services have become comparatively cheaper again, in an effort to cash in on increased purchasing power of US mongers. Doesn't really matter why: as long as people will continue paying those prices, they will get away with it. Simple as that.

Personally, I always thought the termas were sort of overpriced for Rio, although still pretty good by international standards. And as far as I was concerned, I always disliked places that would collect a room charge, which IMHO was only another bogus charge to rack up the bill. But that's me, and to each his own.

For example, over the years, a lot of people on this board have come to the conclusion that Centaurus is way overpriced and don't go there anymore. Maybe some other Rio termas are well on their way going down the same road.

In any case, what makes Rio different from other places for me is the fact that there are TONs of other options available, for every mongering style and budget. The fact that the highest-priced option (ripoff) has become even higher-priced (more ripoff) doesn't change that assessment of mine in the least. Whether compared to Germany, Denmark, or Spain.

EA

The Guy
10-23-08, 23:25
Lots of discussion about Rio pricing. Here's an opinion from a guy who has frequently spent time in Rio over the past 10 yrs: The recent adjustment in the exchange might be helpful, but the Rio is still horribly overvalued at anything south of US$3: R$1. In the early part of this decade, I used to get 40 minutes of action at a good termas for $40-70. I still remember paying R$140 at L'uomo in 2002 when the rate was 3:1 and the girls were a bit prettier. Even with the recent depreciation, the current cost is double or triple that. Because the foreign mongers have become fewer and more stingy parting with their overvalued reais, many of the most attractive girls have moved on to Europe. The termas owners are hurting as well and looking for any excuse to raise prices. As prices have skyrocketed, quality has plummeted.

Bottom line:

- If you're in Rio for other reasons (as I sometimes am) but still want a littl action, try the cheaper options, especially the downtown termas at Rio Branco 156. At the better massage studios, you can find girls in the 7-9 range for US$50. Many of them will be happy to meet up later. And if you're not too old or out of shape, try to meet local non-working girls.

- But if mongering is your main objective, skip Brazil for now. The exchange rate will eventually normalize, but this can take several more weeks/months/years. In the meantime, other South American countries such as Colombia, Peru and Argentina offer far better value. Good times will come again, but you have to be patient.

Sperto
10-24-08, 10:15
Missing the good old days...

Nowadays Rio is super-expensive, the Real is outrageously high, higher crime-risk, more STD, fatter girls, all beautiful girls left to Europe, rain all the time, too hot, dirty beaches, too much farofa on the food and really no reasons at all to return to Brazil... sniff sniff... :(

Just joking. :D
I'm satisfied the way things are. I can't see any reasons at all to change my mongerdestination. No way. The brazilian bunda is still number one.

Orebell
10-24-08, 10:27
I certainly am not the most experienced guy when it comes to Brazil and specifically Rio. I would say this though, don't put off going to Rio because the exchange rate is not what it used to be or the girls are not as good looking or the prices have went up. If you have your heart set on going to Rio, plan the trip and go.

To put it off because you think the exchange rate will get better or you think the prices will come down in the various places where you can get ladies, you may never get there. I don't think we are going to go backwards to the days where the exchange rate was so fantastic and the girls were better. Those days are gone and not coming back. Sure, things might fluctuate over time to varying degrees. Those of you who are able to compare then and now know how things used to be.

The bottom line is there is no place on earth like Rio. Oh sure maybe Thailand has their niche, but I do not care for Asian women. There are probably other places in the world that have fun cities with beautiful women who are easily available. But there really is nothing like Rio.

I went a year and a half ago. Before I went, I had people tell me on this board and other boards not to go. Why? Because they knew I would be ruined forever and will plan another trip back. It is so true. The day I was leaving I was thinking to myself how and when can I get back to this place. I am really close to solidifying a trip in January 2009.

Do yourself a favor. Go to Rio now. You will have the time of your life.

Sun Seeker
10-24-08, 13:33
Lots of discussion about Rio pricing. Here's an opinion from a guy who has frequently spent time in Rio over the past 10 yrs: The recent adjustment in the exchange might be helpful, but the Rio is still horribly overvalued at anything south of US$3: R$1. In the early part of this decade, I used to get 40 minutes of action at a good termas for $40-70. I still remember paying R$140 at L'uomo in 2002 when the rate was 3:1 and the girls were a bit prettier. Even with the recent depreciation, the current cost is double or triple that. Because the foreign mongers have become fewer and more stingy parting with their overvalued reais, many of the most attractive girls have moved on to Europe. The termas owners are hurting as well and looking for any excuse to raise prices. As prices have skyrocketed, quality has plummeted.

Bottom line:

- If you're in Rio for other reasons (as I sometimes am) but still want a littl action, try the cheaper options, especially the downtown termas at Rio Branco 156. At the better massage studios, you can find girls in the 7-9 range for US$50. Many of them will be happy to meet up later. And if you're not too old or out of shape, try to meet local non-working girls.

- But if mongering is your main objective, skip Brazil for now. The exchange rate will eventually normalize, but this can take several more weeks/months/years. In the meantime, other South American countries such as Colombia, Peru and Argentina offer far better value. Good times will come again, but you have to be patient.Agree with TG and KA

Sure there are options to meet every pocket, but for those who like the hassle free experience of the major termas, quality of service and not price is now the only advantage over Western Europe. That may still be enough to make a trip worthwhile.

Looking to the future, yes the real may adjust to a more realistic level. But there is going to be massive investment in Niteroi to support offshore oil production from the Tupi field (for example 100 new support ships to be based in Niteroi), and like any city that supports a new oil boom, that is going to put alot of money in alot of pockets which will eventually increase prices for everything.

Acenva
10-24-08, 14:23
Missing the good old days...

Nowadays Rio is super-expensive, the Real is outrageously high, higher crime-risk, more STD, fatter girls, all beautiful girls left to Europe, rain all the time, too hot, dirty beaches, too much farofa on the food and really no reasons at all to return to Brazil... sniff sniff... :(

Just joking. :D
I'm satisfied the way things are. I can't see any reasons at all to change my mongerdestination. No way. The brazilian bunda is still number one.

Sperto I would have to agree.. it has gone down hill so everyone please stay away next month.. I will keep Brazilian bunda as the number one. Will be there after the election so I can vote at 4X4 for the best GDP

Ohp1972
10-24-08, 22:18
I went a year and a half ago. Before I went, I had people tell me on this board and other boards not to go. Why? Because they knew I would be ruined forever and will plan another trip back. It is so true. The day I was leaving I was thinking to myself how and when can I get back to this place. I am really close to solidifying a trip in January 2009.

Do yourself a favor. Go to Rio now. You will have the time of your life.

Ha,ha,hah!!! Orbell you are so right! And I might have been One of those guys on another forum who made that statement to you.... Because everytime I take that DAMN cab ride back to GIG I start figuring out my next opportunity to get back to those Lovely Bundas!!!! lol... ohp1972/OhioPlayer

Orebell
10-24-08, 23:33
I wondered if anyone who did give that advice to me really thought I would reconsider. I had been reading about Rio for too long on the internet and then more recently on this board and some of the other boards. You guys who post here and elsewhere, I swear it is all your fault. Had you not shared your stories, I would not even know about Rio. But no, ya had to go opening your big mouths and telling others about the women in Rio. Ya just had to. :)


Ha,ha,hah!!! Orbell you are so right! And I might have been One of those guys on another forum who made that statement to you.... Because everytime I take that DAMN cab ride back to GIG I start figuring out my next opportunity to get back to those Lovely Bundas!!!! lol... ohp1972/OhioPlayer

The Guy
10-25-08, 00:58
I didn't mean to offend/provoke anyone with my post of yesterday. I have benefited a lot from knowledge on this site and wanted to pass along my views on Rio. I know Brazil well and speak Portuguese frequently.

In my very personal view, it really doesn't make sense to travel to Rio to monger when you can get more for your money elsewhere. I've recently visited other South American countries. My impression is that an 9-10 level beauty that sets you back $150-200 at a Rio termas currently costs $75 in Colombia or $100 in Argentina. I think it's worth it for viewers of this site considering a visit to Rio to be aware of that disparity.

Having said that, if you simply prefer Brasileiras, perhaps due to their performance level, go to Brazil. If you're going to Brazil for other reasons (as I do), by all means take advantage of being there. If you're 75 years old and this is your last shot, go to Brazil by all means. Rio still has some bargains, such as Rio Branco 156, but personally, I don't travel to the 3rd World to pinch pennies.

On the exchange rate, the real has been overvalued 1994-99, then again 2005-present. These things come in phases. I can't forecast when the real's value will normalize, but it will come. It's a prefectly rational decision for a monger to pass on Brazil this year, go to a more economical destination, with the expectation to travel to Brazil at some point in the future.

Azn Safado
10-25-08, 01:55
Oops, they did it again.

Just in time for the recession, Solarium has raised their prices.

Entrance: R$65
40 Minute Room: R$70
40 Minute Girl: R$150
Total: R$285

Entrance: R$65
1 hr Room: R$95
1 hr Girl: R$250
Total: R$410

I had the Monday coupon for a free cabine (which I think is no longer on their site).



Thanks ET for the price update.

I hear ya Ken. This is an outrage! First 4x4, now Solarium. I'm surprised Monte Carlo hasn't raised their pirces, since they are under the same ownership as Solarium. Luomo has taken away the 50% off entry before 7p weekdays deal, so I'm sure some other jacked up increase will be next.

When the economy is down and business is slow, the dumba$$ Brazilians like to raise their prices.

Problem is, will they ever lower their prices again? Historically, once these Termas raise their prices do these become the base prices for future increases? I don't recall reading anything about them ever lowering their prices back to some level of say 2003 or whatever.

Watchman4400
10-25-08, 02:38
Sperto I would have to agree.. it has gone down hill so everyone please stay away next month.. I will keep Brazilian bunda as the number one. Will be there after the election so I can vote at 4X4 for the best GDP

I can remember my first trip to Rio in the 1980's. I met a guy on the beach from Europe who told me that it was going to be his last trip to Brazil because it has been ruined. He told me that in the 1970's it was cheaper and there were 20 beautiful women for every guy. He said that most of the time the girls would take whatever he paid them. He told me a beautiful girl stayed with him for 5 days and all he paid her was 100 pounds.

Everytime I hear the doom and gloom about Rio all I think is that is one less guy I have to worry about taking up the beautiful women with the perfect bundas! I love Brazil. I will be back in a couple of weeks so I hope all you guys go to Spain and get that mechanical sex!

Sunset
10-25-08, 16:44
according to the news, last night rua siqueira campos 143 (termas l`uomo) was raided. this time they claim to have found an **** girl working there. everyone was taken in to the 12th pincent.

help was mentioned in the maiorial debate last night. paes supported the closing. garbiera perports to be respectful of the prostitutes.

Sperto
10-25-08, 17:14
according to the news, last night rua siqueira campos 143 (termas l`uomo) was raided. this time they claim to have found an **** girl working there.
are you sure it was l'uomo?
the address says rua siqueira campos 143 which is correct, but in the paper it says it was on the 5:th floor. l'uomo is on the 2:nd floor.
http://g1.globo.com/noticias/rio/0,,mul836005-5606,00.html
http://www.atarde.com.br/jornalatarde/ultimasnoticias/noticia.jsf?id=992480

Sperto
10-25-08, 17:15
Did HELP close???
Yes, around 5 AM this morning.

Exec Talent
10-25-08, 18:21
according to the news, last night rua siqueira campos 143 (termas l`uomo) was raided. this time they claim to have found an **** girl working there. everyone was taken in to the 12th pincent.

help was mentioned in the maiorial debate last night. paes supported the closing. garbiera perports to be respectful of the prostitutes.

i was at l'uomo until about 10:00 and there had been almost no customers all night. the owners were there, the manager was not. there are some new girls, but none who look ****. maybe they did not pay their bribe money this month.

my bet is that it was the place across the street on toneleiro. i do not recognize the name of the dona mentioned in the story.

on another note, it seems the food is going to become a thing of the past at l'uomo. a real shame because the cook is excellent.

Sunset
10-25-08, 18:25
I don’t know that it was L`uomo. That’s why I put the name in parenthesis. My source was O Dia.

Sperto
10-25-08, 18:48
My bet is that it was the place across the street on Toneleiro. I do not recognize the name of the Dona mentioned in the story.
According to the articles it seems like it was more like an apartment/sala working as a privê/casa de massagem, not a terma. Propably in the same building complex as L'uomo. Not across the street as the number was 143.

The Guy
10-25-08, 18:51
I can remember my first trip to Rio in the 1980's. I met a guy on the beach from Europe who told me that it was going to be his last trip to Brazil because it has been ruined. He told me that in the 1970's it was cheaper and there were 20 beautiful women for every guy. He said that most of the time the girls would take whatever he paid them. He told me a beautiful girl stayed with him for 5 days and all he paid her was 100 pounds.

Everytime I hear the doom and gloom about Rio all I think is that is one less guy I have to worry about taking up the beautiful women with the perfect bundas! I love Brazil. I will be back in a couple of weeks so I hope all you guys go to Spain and get that mechanical sex!The thing to understand about the Brazilian economy is that it move from one extreme to another at 5-10 year intervals. Yes, if you catch it at an expensive moment, you will fondly remember the "good ole days" 5 years before. That's where we find ourselves at the moment. But a US$1: R$2. 30 exchange rate is unsustainable over the long run for a number of complicated economic and fiscal reasons. So it's not a question of old codgers reminiscing about the old days, but savvy consumers spending their dollars/euros where they get the most value. Good times will come again, perhaps soon.

Rodeo9112
10-25-08, 21:17
Yes, around 5 AM this morning.Closed for good?!?? For those with experience in Rio, how would closing HELP affect mongering and prices? What place/area would likely take its place for an indoor "track" for the ladies? I am heading to Rio in Jan.

I hope I still get to experience this icon of the mongering world.

Rodeo

Bravo
10-26-08, 00:06
Closed for good?!?? For those with experience in Rio, how would closing HELP affect mongering and prices? What place/area would likely take its place for an indoor "track" for the ladies? I am heading to Rio in Jan.

I hope I still get to experience this icon of the mongering world.

Rodeo

He was being funny. Dont worry, Help isnt going anywhere anytime soon.

SavePros321
10-26-08, 06:00
Did HELP close???


Yes, around 5 AM this morning.

Good one, lol

Jan 156
10-26-08, 12:06
Yes, around 5 AM this morning.

I for one would like to see it shut earlier - say about 3am - instill a bit of urgency into the hustle instead of them drinking their way thru four hours of bargaining. By 5am I'd rather be in Nogueira if I haven't scored.

Sperto
10-26-08, 13:06
I for one would like to see it shut earlier - say about 3am - instill a bit of urgency into the hustle instead of them drinking their way thru four hours of bargaining. By 5am I'd rather be in Nogueira if I haven't scored.
I often pass outside Help just after 5 AM, heading for a morning run on the beach. It's not a beautiful sight seeing the last remaining GP's desperately trying to pick up some [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-drunk gringos who barely can walk.

I've seen several of these gringos loosing their wallets and gold-chains to the street-kids.

Euro100
10-26-08, 16:21
I for one would like to see it shut earlier - say about 3am - instill a bit of urgency into the hustle instead of them drinking their way thru four hours of bargaining. By 5am I'd rather be in Nogueira if I haven't scored.

That Nogueira thing is one thing I haven't done yet. Perhaps on my next visit to Rio ...

Pelicano
10-26-08, 16:40
Finaly arived in Rio and rested the first day, due to a very long flight. The next day I headed over to Uruguaiana metro station and considered all my options and decided to go to Vanesa in Rio on Leandro Martins #5, where the cost to benefit ratio has been always very good. Crossed Presidente Vargas and 2 1/2 blocks later I was climbing the stairs. Arrived at 2 PM and there were great choices available, as the few customers, were mostly drinking beers on a 3 large cans for 10 Reais promotion.

Since my regular gfe was not there, I took a small spinner with curly hair for 50 minutes. For some reason, I can´t remember her name, even though her last performance was way above average. She was even better than last time and provided a high energy, no holes barred PSE and the 50 minutes went by way too fast. It´s very good to be back in Rio.

In the meantime, my regular, Evelyn, the chocaholic mulata from Bahia arrives and pretends to be upset, so I give her a few chocolat bars I had brought for her and say that I felt sorry for the garota, as she had not made any programa yet and needed money to buy lunch, but I had saved all my "leitinho" for her. This seemed to work on her mood and I soon went up the rickety ladder again for 50 minutes, this time of a very GFE, which totaly drained any remaining energy left.

The quality of your sessions in the 1 real per minute places, can be evaluated by how you go down the stairs after the session. For a good session you will go down the stairs with wobbly legs for an extra good one you will go down the stairs almost levitating. After these 2 excellent sessions I was levitating for sure and ready to return as soon as I recuperate.

Dwilso39
10-26-08, 17:12
That Nogueira thing is one thing I haven't done yet. Perhaps on my next visit to Rio ...What is Nogueira? Is it a place near Help?

Dwilso39
10-26-08, 17:17
Finaly arived in Rio and rested the first day, due to a very long flight. The next day I headed over to Uruguaiana metro station and considered all my options and decided to go to Vanesa in Rio on Leandro Martins #5, where the cost to benefit ratio has been always very good. Crossed Presidente Vargas and 2 1/2 blocks later I was climbing the stairs. Arrived at 2 PM and there were great choices available, as the few customers, were mostly drinking beers on a 3 large cans for 10 Reais promotion.

Since my regular gfe was not there, I took a small spinner with curly hair for 50 minutes. For some reason, I can't remember her name, even though her last performance was way above average. She was even better than last time and provided a high energy, no holes barred PSE and the 50 minutes went by way too fast. It's very good to be back in Rio.

In the meantime, my regular, Evelyn, the chocaholic mulata from Bahia arrives and pretends to be upset, so I give her a few chocolat bars I had brought for her and say that I felt sorry for the garota, as she had not made any programa yet and needed money to buy lunch, but I had saved all my "leitinho" for her. This seemed to work on her mood and I soon went up the rickety ladder again for 50 minutes, this time of a very GFE, which totaly drained any remaining energy left.

The quality of your sessions in the 1 real per minute places, can be evaluated by how you go down the stairs after the session. For a good session you will go down the stairs with wobbly legs for an extra good one you will go down the stairs almost levitating. After these 2 excellent sessions I was levitating for sure and ready to return as soon as I recuperate. Can you give me walking direction to this place from the Metro? I've be to BA85, and BA113 but haven't seen this spot. Is it in the same neigborhood? Did you get any pics?

I went to VM for the first time; VERY interesting place. I call it the pussy Bizzare!

Ryjerrob
10-26-08, 17:23
I've seen several of these gringos loosing their wallets and gold-chains to the street-kids.

Wallets, gold-chains, on vacation, wtf are people thinking?? I hide my wallet the minute the plane lands. I don't think I've ever owned a cold chain either.

ryjer

Ryjerrob
10-26-08, 17:37
For a good session you will go down the stairs with wobbly legs for an extra good one you will go down the stairs almost levitating. After these 2 excellent sessions I was levitating for sure and ready to return as soon as I recuperate.

After those earth moving sessions where you're dripping with sweat, and the half-empty bottle of water does nothing for you, I usually drift past the crowds rushing up the circular stairs, heading down on my magic carpet..........

ryjer