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El Austriaco
07-16-08, 18:19
Excuse my ignorance, but what are the Linha Vermelha and Linha Amarela? (I never drive in or around Rio.)
Linha Vermelha is the main city expressway, the one you take to get to Zona Sul as soon as you get off Ilha do Governador, where the airport is located. So even if you are not familiar with the name, you must have been on it many times on the way to or from the airport. It ends roughly at Rio Comprido/São Cristóvão near Centro (before you get into the Rebouças tunnel).
In the other direction (i.e. out of town, beyond Tom Jobim airport), it runs into the Baixada Fluminense through São João de Meriti and Duque de Caxias and ultimately becomes Rodovia Presidente Dutra, if I remember correctly (BR-116, the main highway between Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo).
Linha Amarela links Barra da Tijuca with Ilha do Governador, going from Jacarepaguá to Bonsucceso, from where it connects with Av. Brasil, another major thoroughfare which runs roughly parallel to Linha Vermelha between the Rodoviaria Novo Rio and the airport, although over no stretches of water (like Linha Vermelha at times). It's the largest urban stretch of BR-101. The section from Bonsuccesso to the airport is sometimes also called Linha Amarela.
El Austriaco,
Thanks for the info. You're right, I probably have been on both of them, but never knew the names.
El Austriaco,
Thanks for the info. You're right, I probably have been on both of them, but never knew the names.
Upon Arrival - Highway to Heaven
Upon Departure - Highway to Hell
Or the opposite may be true depending on if a trip to Villa Mimosa is in the cards. I call this almost heaven..........
ryjer
Here's an interesting article about an incident at a WTO conference.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080720/ap_on_re_eu/wto_quoting_goebbels
ryjer
I seem to remember some months back, talk about the visa program being changed. Has anyone heard anything about this? I have a friend here in Michigan who said her mother was just given a tourist visa to travel to the USA from Brasil, but never thought she qualified for one. Just wondering if anyone heard anything?
ryjer
Anybody know about it ? End of Help ?
Brazil's Most Notorious Prostitution House Becomes a Museum
Written by Elma Lia Nascimento
Friday, 01 February 2008
Brazil's most famous temple to lust and prostitution may soon become a fond memory for some and a glad-it's-gone for many others. Rio de Janeiro governor, Sérgio Cabral, has expropriated and declared state property the building and land that house the Help night-club, in Rio.
The place's address is 4 Djalma Ulrich street, corner of Atlântica avenue, in the heart of Copacabana, in the south side of Rio. Help, which is located in a 17,200 square feet lot, has been, for about two decades now, a sanctuary for prostitutes and her clients, most of them Brazilian and foreign tourists.
The governor's decree bearing number 41,151 was published this Tuesday, January 29, by Rio de Janeiro state's Daily Gazette. Cabral's intention is to use the place for Rio's Museum of Image and Sound (MIS), which is now housed downtown.
The state government's press office says the idea is to transform the location in an ample house of culture and leisure considerably broadening the MIS's reach and scope. The museum has a big collection of movies, radio clips and samba and bossa nova material.
Curiously Help isn't known as "boate" as Brazilians call a night-club or any other racier name like chicken ranch but as a family-oriented "discoteca."
Help was born in 1984 as a disco for the affluent Cariocas (Rio residents). Before that decade had ended, however, the place became Rio's largest prostitution playground. In a time when the old discothèques are being called lounges, Discoteca or Disco Help kept the innocent aura of decades past.
Besides Help, there are two restaurants doing business in the same location to be expropriated: Terraço Atlântico and Sobre as Ondas (Over the Waves).
Commenting on the end of Help, a Copacabana resident rejoiced: "That is a big victory for Copacabana, an important step to fight prostitution in the neighborhood, because this night-club has got only *****s and gringos. The Museum of Image and Sound will be much welcome, despite the fact that the initial idea of setting up a Soccer Museum would make more sense because the MIS already has its place downtown and in the Lapa district. They might as well include the Havanna Club bar in this cleaning-up project since this is another spot that caters to prostitutes and johns."
"With the end of Help the tendency is for the night bosses to strengthen their control," said anthropologist Thaddeus Blanchette in an interview to daily Folha de S. Paulo. "There might be a professionalization in a bad way."
Blanchette is co-author of the study: "Our Lady of Help: Sex, Tourism and Transnational Displacement in Copacabana." The scientist believes that over 1,000 ladies of the night sell their wares at Help during summer time, which is right now.
They all work as free-lancers paying a small fee to get in: 22 Brazilian reais (US$ 12.4) before midnight and 32 reais (US$ 18) after that. The same price everybody else, man or woman, has to pay to enter the night-club.
The ladies may recoup the investment 20 times over with a john alone for a short session lasting less than one hour. Prices may vary quite a bit, however, starting a low US$ 25. The place stays open until 5:30 am every day.
Hip hop and techno are the main musical food offered. There's plenty of alcohol, with a beer going for about US$ 4 and a small bottle of champagne for around US$ 12. Vodka and whiskey are also available setting you down about US$ 10 a shot.
The expropriation of the Help building might take some time. The state will only take control of the place a couple of months after a judicial process in which the owners of the real estate will have their say on how much they will accept as compensation for the place.
All those leasing space in the building seemed surprised at the government's decision, despite the years-long pressure from the neighborhood against the *****house front.
Adriana Rattes, Rio's secretary of culture, is hopeful that as early as March she will be able to start planning for the new space and new museum, which she believes will count on the help of the private sector.
Rock Harders
07-22-08, 06:43
Mongers-
I think this posted report about Help closing is total bullshit. There have been rumors of Help's demise for years and years, and it even says that it is all bullshit on Help's own website. In addition, the posted prices for drinks are way off; a beer is R$ 3, a decent mixed drink R$ 8, and champagne is only R$15. My instincts tell me that the number of jobs dependent upon Help and its satellite establishments will prevent it from closing any time soon.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
Mongers-
I think this posted report about Help closing is total bullshit. There have been rumors of Help's demise for years and years, and it even says that it is all bullshit on Help's own website. In addition, the posted prices for drinks are way off; a beer is R$ 3, a decent mixed drink R$ 8, and champagne is only R$15. My instincts tell me that the number of jobs dependent upon Help and its satellite establishments will prevent it from closing any time soon.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
While it may be an inconvenient truth for some, there is a push to close Help. I think we (mongers) make up a small percentage of the tourist dollars, or not. Maybe it'll close, maybe it won't, but having a backup plan is a good plan for all.
I hope you're not referring to the site I think you're referring too, http://www.discoteca-help.com/html/eng/index.htm. While this site offers some basic information, and has a forum, it is not affiliated with the actual club itself. I say just enjoy it while you can, and try to learn something new with each trip you make.
ryjer
Anybody know about it ? End of Help ?This was 6 months ago, we discussed at length and there are a couple of separate threads on it.
I think personally that the smoking ban and lack of interest will close Help, it has been empty the past month or more. Everyone stays in front of help now. I see the inside only girls sitting outside now. Elections are in October, so their might be more more news push about it, but probably just that, politics.
This was 6 months ago, we discussed at length and there are a couple of separate threads on it.
I think personally that the smoking ban and lack of interest will close Help, it has been empty the past month or more. Everyone stays in front of help now. I see the inside only girls sitting outside now. Elections are in October, so their might be more more news push about it, but probably just that, politics.
Seeing very few girls inside was disappointing especially on past Sunday night when I left alone.
Smoking combined with a lack of girls would have been much tougher on me:). But at least one can breathe in their now.
(Plus I dont have to explain to others why my clothes stink of smoke).
As of last Tuesday, Copacabana Beach has free Wi-Fi, in an area bounded by Ave N.S. Copacabana, Ave. Princesa Isabel and Santa Clara, (central to east part of the beach). They call it the Orla Digital.
They're also installing more security cameras on the beach. This way they'll be able to see the crook as he runs off with your laptop! LOL
http://oglobo.globo.com/tecnologia/mat/2008/07/21/copacabana_ganha_rede_sem-fio_gratuita_nesta_terca-feira-547338047.asp
Poucolouco
07-25-08, 01:23
As of last Tuesday, Copacabana Beach has free Wi-Fi, in an area bounded by Ave N.S. Copacabana, Ave. Princesa Isabel and Santa Clara, (central to east part of the beach). They call it the Orla Digital.
They're also installing more security cameras on the beach. This way they'll be able to see the crook as he runs off with your laptop! LOLI thought the same thing when I saw this on TV. Next step, they will extend the Wi-Fi into the Copacabana favelas so the moradores can have free internet access from your free laptop. ;)
They're also installing more security cameras on the beach. This way they'll be able to see the crook as he runs off with your laptop! Next step, they will extend the Wi-Fi into the Copacabana favelas so the moradores can have free internet access from your free laptop. ;)
Maybe the could put it on utube so we can wave bye bye <g>
[For 'non-initiates', you need to spend up to four hours at Leblon tourist police station after a theft. Not so you have any chance of getting the stuff back - that is very rare - but so you can get a piece of paper for insurance purposes. If you ask them nicely they will also let you have free phone calls to your insurance company or use their non-broadband internet while you wait.]
worldwide cost of living survey 2008 – city ranking
united kingdom
london, 24 july 2008
moscow is still the most expensive city for expatriates; asunción in paraguay is the cheapest
european and asian cities dominate the top 10
weakening of us dollar causes significant changes in rankings
london drops one place to rank third
moscow is the world’s most expensive city for expatriates for the third consecutive year, according to the latest cost of living survey from mercer. tokyo is in second position climbing two places since last year, where as london drops one place to rank third. oslo climbs six places to 4th place and is followed by seoul in 5th. asunción in paraguay is the least expensive city in the ranking for the sixth year running.
with new york as the base city scoring 100 points, moscow scores 142.4 and is close to three times costlier than asunción which has an index of 52.5. contrary to the trend observed last year the gap between the world’s most and least expensive cities now seems to be widening.
mercer’s survey covers 143 cities across six continents and measures the comparative cost of over 200 items in each location, including housing, transport, food, clothing, household goods and entertainment. it is the world’s most comprehensive cost of living survey and is used to help multinational companies and governments determine compensation allowances for their expatriate employees.
yvonne traber, a principal and research manager at mercer, commented: “current market conditions have led to the further weakening of the us dollar which, coupled with the strengthening of the euro and many other currencies, has caused significant changes in this year’s rankings.”
she added: “although the traditionally expensive cities of western europe and asia still feature in the top 20, cities in eastern europe, brazil and india are creeping up the list. conversely, some locations such as stockholm and new york now appear less costly by comparison.
"our research confirms the global trend in price increases for certain foodstuffs and petrol, though the rise is not consistent in all locations. this is partly balanced by decreasing prices for certain commodities such as electronic and electrical goods. we attribute this to cheaper imports from developing countries, especially china, and to advances in technology.
“keeping on top of the changes in expatriate cost of living is essential so companies can ensure their employees are compensated fairly and at competitive rates when stationed abroad,” ms traber observed.
“in some cases, cost of living increases may be correlated to countries with a high rate of economic growth. companies may assign high priority to expansion in these economies but may have to deal with inflationary pressures due to competition for expatriate-level housing and other services, as observed in our surveys,” she noted.
for example, latvia had real gdp growth of 10.2% in 2007, well above the global average growth rate of 5.2%, and its capital, riga, jumped to 46th place in the latest mercer ranking, up from 72nd a year ago. cities in india all rose in the cost of living ranking, with new delhi climbing to 55th place from 68th a year ago, as india posted a real gdp growth rate of 9.2% in 2007. bogota jumped to 87th place from 112th, reflecting colombia’s 7% real gdp growth.
europe, middle east and africa
moscow is ranked the most expensive city both in europe and globally for the third year running. the city’s score has steadily increased over the last few years and is currently at 142.4 (compared to 134.4 in 2007 and 123.9 in 2006).
“moscow’s position as the most expensive place for expatriate living has been strengthened by the appreciation of the rouble against the us dollar and the continuous rising accommodation costs,” said ms traber.
london is the next european city in the ranking at 3rd place (score 125), down one from last year, while oslo has jumped six places to rank 4th with a score of 118.3.
“norwegian property prices were at an all-time high towards the end of last year after a 50% increase in the last five years. coupled with the continuous strengthening of the norwegian krone this has created a substantial increase in living costs for expatriates in oslo,” said ms traber, principal at mercer.
other european cities in the global top 10 include copenhagen at 7th (117.2) and geneva in 8th (115.8). both cities have dropped one place from last year. zurich remains in 9th place (112.7), whereas milan climbs one to 10th place with a score of 111.3. sofia in bulgaria is again the least expensive european city for expatriates in 97th place (76.9), although the city has climbed 11 places in the overall ranking.
several european cities have experienced a significant rise in the rankings this year, mainly as a result of local currency strengthening against the us dollar. for example, prague has jumped from 49th to 29th place (score 96) and warsaw is up to 35th place (score 95) compared to 67th in 2007. istanbul has climbed 15 places to rank 23 (score 99.4) reflecting the turkish lira’s significant appreciation against the us dollar as well as general price increases, especially for accommodation.
in addition to london dropping one place, two additional uk cities, birmingham and glasgow, have both moved down in the rankings, dropping from 41st to 66th (score 85.4) and 36th to 69th (score 84), respectively. “in contrast to the strengthening euro and other european currencies, the british pound has remained relatively stable against the us dollar. as the cost of living in the eurozone has risen relative to the us, uk cities have declined in the rankings,” according to ms traber.
tel aviv is again the most expensive city in the middle east, positioned 14th (score 105) on the global list, up three places from 2007.
both dubai and abu dhabi have dropped significantly this year, positioned at 52 (score 89.3) and 65 (score 85.7), respectively. this is mainly due to the uae dirham being pegged to the us dollar. most african cities in the survey have moved down the ranking with the exception of lagos in nigeria, which has jumped seven places to join the top 30 at position 30 (score 95.9).
the americas
the only north american city to feature in this year’s top 50 is new york in 22nd place (score 100), dropping seven places in one year.
all other us cities have also experienced a significant decline in the rankings. for example, los angeles has moved from 42nd to 55th place (score 87.5), miami from 51st to 75th place (score 82) and washington, dc, from 85th to 107th place (score 74.6).
"the decline in the ranking of all us cities is due to the weakening value of the us dollar against most major world currencies," said mitch barnes, principal at mercer in the us. "the dollar has been declining steadily for the past several years, which has resulted in an overall decrease in the cost of living in 19 us cities, relative to other major global cities studied.
"on the bright side, the us dollar's loss of value may serve to attract globally mobile executives to business centres such as new york, chicago and los angeles. the difference in cost of living can be significant, particularly for those executives with families."
in 54th place (score 88.1), jumping 28 places from last year, toronto is the most expensive city for expatriates in canada. all other canadian cities in the survey have experienced similar rises, with vancouver moving from 89th to 64th (score 85.8), calgary from 92nd to 66th (score 85.4) and montréal from 98th to 72nd with a score of 83. this reverses last year’s trend which saw canadian cities decline, and places them back where they have traditionally been rated. the canadian dollar has appreciated nearly 15% against the us dollar, the main reason for these movements.
the two top-ranking cities in south america are sao paulo in 25th place (score 97) and rio de janeiro in 31st place (score 95.2), jumping 37 and 33 places, respectively. the brazilian real appreciated nearly 18% against the us dollar last year, causing these brazilian cities to rocket up the list. another high-riser in this region is caracas, jumping 40 places from 129th to 89th (score 79.3). high inflation in venezuela has caused a sharp increase in the price of food and household products.
south america also has some of the lowest ranking cities globally. asunción is the least expensive city for the sixth consecutive year (score 52.5), followed by quito in ecuador in 142nd (score 54.6), buenos aires in 138th (score 62.7) and montevideo in 136th (score 63.2).
asia
tokyo is the costliest asian city, in 2nd place (score 127), two places up since last year. seoul follows in 5th place (score 117.7) and hong kong closely after in 6th with a score of 117.6. singapore ranks 13th and holds a score of 109.1. karachi continues to be the least costly city in this region, in 141st place with a score of 54.7.
whilst the five top-scoring cities in asia remain relatively stable in the ranking there have been significant changes further down the list. in india, mumbai moves up four places to reach 48 (score 90.3), whereas new delhi climbs 13 places to 55 (score 87.5) due to the strengthening of the india rupee against the us dollar. although india has experienced relatively high inflation, this has increased at similar pace to new york and has therefore had a reduced impact on its cities’ rise in the rankings. manila rises a total of 27 places, ranking 110th with a score of 73.4, mainly as a result of price increases for international-standard accommodation.
in contrast, certain cities in this region have experienced significant falls in the ranking. some examples are jakarta falling from 55th to 82nd place (score 80.5) and bangkok dropping from 95th to 105th place with a score of 75.1. in vietnam, hanoi drops 35 places to rank 91 (score 79) and ho chi minh city drops 40 places to rank 100th (score 76.3), mainly because the vietnamese dong has remained stable against the us dollar and so has pushed these cities down on the list. the low level of inflation observed on goods in these vietnamese cities compared to in new york has further widened the gap.
australia and new zealand
sydney continues to be the most expensive city for expatriates in this region, moving up six places in the overall ranking to reach 15th place (score 104.1). melbourne follows in 36th place (score 94.2), jumping 28 places and perth climbs 31 places to reach ranking number 53 (score 88.5).
both australian and new zealand cities are moving up in the rankings due to the appreciation of their local currencies against the us dollar. new zealand’s cities remain the less costly option for expatriates, however, with auckland in 78th place (score 81) and wellington in 93 (score 77.6).
http://www.mercer.com/costofliving
I thought the same thing when I saw this on TV. Next step, they will extend the Wi-Fi into the Copacabana favelas so the moradores can have free internet access from your free laptop. ;)
The guys at the top of the favelas already have internet--and I guarantee they're not paying their Net bill every month... It's called "de gato." Internet de gato, luz de gato, TV a cabo de gato.... Don't ask me why, but that's what they call it when they're connected illegally...
The guys at the top of the favelas already have internet--and I guarantee they're not paying their Net bill every month... It's called "de gato." Internet de gato, luz de gato, TV a cabo de gato.... Don't ask me why, but that's what they call it when they're connected illegally...
Lots of people living in the communidades/favelas do pay for all these. They pay for their internet, electricty etc. Even people who use "de gato" do pay, but a lesser fee.
Why they call it "de gato" might be because of the similarity of the cat who sneaks around in the dark robbing stuff.
Lots of people living in the communidades/favelas do pay for all these. They pay for their internet, electricty etc. Even people who use "de gato" do pay, but a lesser fee.
Why they call it "de gato" might be because of the similarity of the cat who sneaks around in the dark robbing stuff.
Without contradicting you outright, while some MAY pay for internet, electricity, etc., I was speaking in particular about the guys who live at the TOP of the favela--IOW, the ones who cannot leave. Beyond that, there are many entire favelas and even surrounding neighborhoods in which the residents have an illegal hookup for which they pay nothing--true "de gato."
Without contradicting you outright, while some MAY pay for internet, electricity, etc., I was speaking in particular about the guys who live at the TOP of the favela--IOW, the ones who cannot leave. Beyond that, there are many entire favelas and even surrounding neighborhoods in which the residents have an illegal hookup for which they pay nothing--true "de gato."
What I heard Light is accepting de gado at a lesser fee, instead of risking going up in the favelas cutting the wires and and getting their asses kicked. This information I got from my GFs landlord who happens to be an electrician working in one of the favelas in Leme.
However, this issue is of less importance to mongers.
What I heard Light is accepting de gado at a lesser fee, instead of risking going up in the favelas cutting the wires and and getting their asses kicked. This information I got from my GFs landlord who happens to be an electrician working in one of the favelas in Leme.
However, this issue is of less importance to mongers.
Fair enough. But for some, free is free, and stolen is stolen. It sounds like Light is being a bit optimistic. I don't think anyone in the favela is worried about getting their asses kicked by Light. ;o) I don't care to mention where my information comes from, but I will say it's several sources, and none of them is an electrician. True enough, this is further away from Copa, and there's a lot more action, and none of it may be important to mongers, but it was an incidental contribution which I personally found interesting.
Fair enough. But for some, free is free, and stolen is stolen. It sounds like Light is being a bit optimistic. I don't think anyone in the favela is worried about getting their asses kicked by Light. ;o) I don't care to mention where my information comes from, but I will say it's several sources, and none of them is an electrician. True enough, this is further away from Copa, and there's a lot more action, and none of it may be important to mongers, but it was an incidental contribution which I personally found interesting.
I am also no electrician, but who's doing this wiring, and who's paying???
ryjer
Poucolouco
07-27-08, 21:20
Without contradicting you outright, while some MAY pay for internet, electricity, etc., I was speaking in particular about the guys who live at the TOP of the favela--IOW, the ones who cannot leave. Beyond that, there are many entire favelas and even surrounding neighborhoods in which the residents have an illegal hookup for which they pay nothing--true "de gato."
What I heard Light is accepting de gado at a lesser fee, instead of risking going up in the favelas cutting the wires and and getting their asses kicked. This information I got from my GFs landlord who happens to be an electrician working in one of the favelas in Leme.
However, this issue is of less importance to mongers.Actually you are both right. There is a good description of gatos in the current issue of "HARVARD DESIGN MAGAZINE."
http://www.gsd.harvard.edu/research/publications/hdm/current/28_Fabricius.html
Now to segue this discussion to the interest of mongers, termas La Palace (ex-Club 25) - R. do Mercado, 25 - Centro was raided by Policia Civil at 9.m on Friday 09, Nov 2007. Twenty GDPs, 4 clientes, proprietor and other employees were detained, driven to the precinct in two omnibuses for questioning and released 3 hours later. On 11 Oct the same club was raided by police and cited for an illegal water meter, (gato.)
What I heard Light is accepting de gado at a lesser fee, instead of risking going up in the favelas cutting the wires and and getting their asses kicked.
I don't think anyone in the favela is worried about getting their asses kicked by Light.
Neither do I think that. I meant that Light would get their ass kicked.
I think it's a smart move by Light. It's better to get less than nothing.
Back to bundas...?
Up and Cummer
07-28-08, 04:21
Hi,
Everyone, I am going to be flying to Brazil in 3 weeks. I wanted to know what the custom rules are if any about bringing my prescription meds into Brazil. What is the limit? 30 day supply?
Also, can Viagra or Levitra be purchased without a prescription in Rio? For comparision purposes is Brazil (Rio) pharmacies like ones in Mexico? This will be my first trip to Brazil and appreciate any responses.
Thanks,
U & C
Hi,
Everyone, I am going to be flying to Brazil in 3 weeks. I wanted to know what the custom rules are if any about bringing my prescription meds into Brazil. What is the limit? 30 day supply?
Also, can Viagra or Levitra be purchased without a prescription in Rio? For comparision purposes is Brazil (Rio) pharmacies like ones in Mexico? This will be my first trip to Brazil and appreciate any responses.
Thanks,
U & C
You are right about purchasing without presciption. Viagra and most all other products are thrown after you when you visit a "pharmasia".
Enjoy your stay :-)
El Austriaco
07-28-08, 15:11
For comparision purposes is Brazil (Rio) pharmacies like ones in Mexico?
No. While in Mexico (at least where I live), you do require a prescription for V, C, and L, in Rio, it's all OTC. Much much easier in Rio. You can order your vitamins over the phone at any pharmacy and even pay by CC once they deliver to your hotel or apartment. No sweat whatsoever.
EA
Hi,
Also, can Viagra or Levitra be purchased without a prescription in Rio?
U & C
While not nearly as much fun as Levitra, Viagra, and Cialis, you can purchase Azithromycin (AKA Z-pack) over the counter in Brazil. It is sold in Brazil as "Azitromicina" and comes in a pack of three 500 mg tablets for R$28. (I'm pretty sure that's still cheaper than my co-pay at home).
In the USA, a Z-Pack comes as a package of six 250 mg tablets so you end up with the same dosage (1500 total) just a higher concentration of antibiotic for each of three days.
The pharmacist told me not to drink alcohol for two hours after taking the tablet.
For anyone who travels as much as I do, having a Z-Pack in your shaving bag when you are on the road can be a life saver. Nothing like a sinus infection to ruin your trip. Of course, when you have a sinus infection, the last thing you want to do is to go to the Dr. for a prescription regardless of where you are.
Does 4x4 have a steam room or sauna?
Yes, they have both.
Does 4x4 have a steam room or sauna?
Hi,
Everyone, I am going to be flying to Brazil in 3 weeks. I wanted to know what the custom rules are if any about bringing my prescription meds into Brazil. What is the limit? 30 day supply?
Also, can Viagra or Levitra be purchased without a prescription in Rio? For comparision purposes is Brazil (Rio) pharmacies like ones in Mexico? This will be my first trip to Brazil and appreciate any responses.
Thanks,
U & C
According to the entry form that we submit we have to declare any medicines brought into Brazil. I never did although I am currying many just in case I might need them.
A friend of mine was cought in Fortaleza with some medicines as well some viagra pills and the lady officer kept them behind telling him that is illegal and that he should return to the airport next day to discuss it with a superior officer (and/or a doctor) if he really wanted them back. He never did. He replaced everything with local brands.
Lesson learned from my many years of travelling is to avoid female customs officers if possibe. They are more trouble because IMO they are more qurious and are going to search every bit of your luggage.
Up and Cummer
07-30-08, 06:58
according to the entry form that we submit we have to declare any medicines brought into brazil. i never did although i am currying many just in case i might need them.
a friend of mine was cought in fortaleza with some medicines as well some viagra pills and the lady officer kept them behind telling him that is illegal and that he should return to the airport next day to discuss it with a superior officer (and/or a doctor) if he really wanted them back. he never did. he replaced everything with local brands.
lesson learned from my many years of travelling is to avoid female customs officers if possibe. they are more trouble because imo they are more qurious and are going to search every bit of your luggage.so even if my name is on the bottle of the medical prescription brazil customs could confirep001e them? please clarify.
the prescriptions i would bring to brazil with me have my name on the bottle and have my u.s. doctors name and dea # on the bottle too. perfectly legal to carry here. i certainly don't need or want them confirep001ed. so what does a person do entering brazil with prescriptions from usa?
I've been reading different blogs about Brasil, and have a list of about 15. They can be quite useful for finding non-mongering activities, assuming any of us want to get some culture. If you're interested send me a pm. I am posting one that deals with games at Maracana.
http://futebolnomaracana.********.com/
ryjer
not sure what's up with the link, but it's blog .
spot
I've been reading different blogs about Brasil, and have a list of about 15. They can be quite useful for finding non-mongering activities, assuming any of us want to get some culture. If you're interested send me a pm. I am posting one that deals with games at Maracana.
http://futebolnomaracana.********.com/
ryjer
not sure what's up with the link, but it's blog .
spot
In your link the ******** should be replaced with the word "b l o g s p o t" (without the spaces). For some reason it's impossible to post that word without being censured.
Anyway, a very good link. Thank you.
Poucolouco
07-30-08, 14:20
so even if my name is on the bottle of the medical prescription brazil customs could confirep001e them? please clarify.
the prescriptions i would bring to brazil with me have my name on the bottle and have my u.s. doctors name and dea # on the bottle too. perfectly legal to carry here. i certainly don't need or want them confirep001ed. so what does a person do entering brazil with prescriptions from usa?the complete faq from the official receita federal web page can be accessed here.
http://www.receita.fazenda.gov.br/principal/ingles/faq.htm
it specifically states, "passengers carrying prescription drugs should arrive with a valid prescription issued by a physician and a receipt of purchase issued by the drugstore; "
with this in mind you should know that the inspectors have the authority to confirep001e just about anything if they suspect it's use is intended for illegal purposes, (e.g. you are carrying a huge quantity of valium.) this very rarely happens.
carrying valid prescription medications should be no problem.
Ok, here are the links. The owners of these blogs are not mongers, if you need to contact them with questions, please be discrete.
Mama Shayna
http://mamashayna.wordpress.com/
Quality of Live
http://qualidadedevida-jim.b l o g s p o t.com/
Olinda
http://gringoinolinda.b l o g s p o t.com/
Pernambucano
http://pernambucanoadotado.b l o g s p o t.com/
This Week
http://thisweekinbahia.b l o g s p o t.com/
Lion's Den
http://www.thelionsdenn.b l o g s p o t.com/
Just Bahia
http://www.dtruth.talkspot.com/aspx/templates/pro5a.aspx/msgid/2
Greg and Cath's
http://gregandcathsadventures.wordpress.com/
What am I Doing
http://expatrica.b l o g s p o t.com/
Bahia
http://www.bahia-online.net/
Your Life
http://yourlifeisanimpossibility.b l o g s p o t.com/
Dr. Bill's
http://drbillsblog.com/
Standard Break
http://frankiefreitas.b l o g s p o t.com/
Katia
http://florsete7br.spaces.live.com/
Flights Blog
http://www.holidayinbrazil.com/General/Flights_to_Brazil_S%E3o_Paulo_Rio_de_Janeiro.htm
Hope this info helps..........
rjer
The Watcher
07-30-08, 15:54
so even if my name is on the bottle of the medical prescription brazil customs could confirep001e them? please clarify.
i have been travelling to brasil several times a year for many years. during all those trips, i have had my luggage searched several times and i have never had any prescription drugs (or any other possession) seized by customs.
i have many friends who have been travelling to brasil for many years. none of these friends has ever had any prescription drugs seized.
although it may be theoretically possible, i believe it is extremely unlikely your prescription drugs will be confirep001ed.
The Watcher
07-30-08, 16:13
Ok, here are the links. The owners of these blogs are not mongers, if you need to contact them with questions, please be discrete.
Mama Shayna
http://mamashayna.wordpress.com/
Quality of Live
http://qualidadedevida-jim.b l o g s p o t.com/
Olinda
http://gringoinolinda.b l o g s p o t.com/
Pernambucano
http://pernambucanoadotado.b l o g s p o t.com/
This Week
http://thisweekinbahia.b l o g s p o t.com/
Lion's Den
http://www.thelionsdenn.b l o g s p o t.com/
Just Bahia
http://www.dtruth.talkspot.com/aspx/templates/pro5a.aspx/msgid/2
Greg and Cath's
http://gregandcathsadventures.wordpress.com/
What am I Doing
http://expatrica.b l o g s p o t.com/
Bahia
http://www.bahia-online.net/
Your Life
http://yourlifeisanimpossibility.b l o g s p o t.com/
Dr. Bill's
http://drbillsblog.com/
Standard Break
http://frankiefreitas.b l o g s p o t.com/
Katia
http://florsete7br.spaces.live.com/
Flights Blog
http://www.holidayinbrazil.com/General/Flights_to_Brazil_S%E3o_Paulo_Rio_de_Janeiro.htm
Hope this info helps..........
rjer
Please note that the above links with "b l o g s p o t" are written with spaces between each letter in such word because the word will show up as "********" if the word is written without such spaces.
If you cut and paste a "b l o g s p o t" link, you will not be able to access the site. You can only access the link if you remove the space between each letter in "b l o g s p o t".
Please note that the above links with "b l o g s p o t" are written with spaces between each letter in such word because the word will show up as "********" if the word is written without such spaces.
If you cut and paste a "b l o g s p o t" link, you will not be able to access the site. You can only access the link if you remove the space between each letter in "b l o g s p o t".
I probably should have said that. But thanks for the help.
ryjer
i have been travelling to brasil several times a year for many years. during all those trips, i have had my luggage searched several times and i have never had any prescription drugs (or any other possession) seized by customs.
i have many friends who have been travelling to brasil for many years. none of these friends has ever had any prescription drugs seized.
although it may be theoretically possible, i believe it is extremely unlikely your prescription drugs will be confirep001ed.ditto, never had them look at any medicines. 90 some trips in the last 7 years. they do look at electronics, even more now.
Worldwide Cost of Living survey 2008 – City ranking
http://www.mercer.com/costofliving
Just found this post which strikes me as a pretty useful guide (as long as taken with a pinch of salt) for worldwide mongers who are first time visitors to a country especially.
I say 'pinch of salt' because once you learn how to do things cheaply (like the locals) in any country, the cost goes down. In some countries there is a big gap once you do this. In spite of the relatively high placing for RJ, for example, it is possible to live pretty cheaply if you live like local people who aren't that well off. MUMBAI (which gets a relatively high ranking) has a similar disparity. Compare it, say, to New Zealand, where, although the overall costs are relatively low, they don't go down that much when you do things on a tight budget. Acrosss the moat, Sydney's specialism, for this punter, is the GFE scene, advertised as the 'at home' experience. But although there's plenty of brothels they can bust your bank account.
But I think the report as quoted is useful when first visiting a country as it is hard to find out how to do things 'on the cheap' (although ISG is a pretty good source and backpacker hostels are usually mines of non-P4P info).
(I'm quoting what seem to me some of the more interesting sections as the report is so long that many may have overlooked it.)
South America also has some of the lowest ranking cities globally. ASUNCION is the least expensive city for the sixth consecutive year (score 52.5), followed by QUITO in Ecuador in 142nd (score 54.6), BUENOS AIRES in 138th (score 62.7) and MONTEVIDEO in 136th (score 63.2).
In contrast, certain cities in this region have experienced significant falls in the ranking. Some examples are JAKARTA falling from 55th to 82nd place (score 80.5) and BANGKOK dropping from 95th to 105th place with a score of 75.1. In Vietnam, HANOI drops 35 places to rank 91 (score 79) and HO CHI MINH CITY drops 40 places to rank 100th (score 76.3), mainly because the Vietnamese dong has remained stable against the US dollar and so has pushed these cities down on the list. The low level of inflation observed on goods in these Vietnamese cities compared to in New York has further widened the gap.
SOFIA in Bulgaria is again the least expensive European city for expatriates in 97th place (76.9), although the city has climbed 11 places in the overall ranking.
New Zealand’s cities remain the less costly option for expatriates, however, with AUCKLAND in 78th place (score 81) and Wellington in 93 (score 77.6).
Balance this against the overall ease and cost of getting p*ssy. In Auckland, you pay escort prices, or get ripped off in the (not that cheap) docks area. Low by international standards, but not on the budget category. Similarly, Montevideo has nice, not too expensive 'at home' deals; but it hardly compared with Rio ro BA and has little in teh way of atmosphere. In Mumbai, you basically pay as little or as much as you wish to. Same for Rio. But in Rio you not only have high quantity availability but you have one of the most amazing cities in the world. If it's too exciting, you can always jump a bus to Belo and do it in a concrete bunker . . .
Nice one, Prosal!
Exec Talent
07-31-08, 16:22
Christopherd brought up a good point on another thread about duplas. I have had my share (OK, more than my share) and have developed one important general guideline. I let the girls get started on each other and hang back and watch then gradually become an active participant. This seems to minimize the favoring of one girl over the other issue.
Christopherd brought up a good point on another thread about duplas. I have had my share (OK, more than my share) and have developed one important general guideline. I let the girls get started on each other and hang back and watch then gradually become an active participant. This seems to minimize the favoring of one girl over the other issue.
I think this is excellent advice and agree with ET.
Girls who are genuinely into each other will soon develop an unspoken communication when they do that and afterwards 'share' their guy with each other quite harmoniously.
Sadly I learnt this lesson with non-GDPs. With GDPs it can be harder to work out if they are genuinely bisexual. If they're not, then I'm not convinced that letting them get 'into' each other works quite as it should, but still worth bearing in mind.
I seem to remember some months back, talk about the visa program being changed. Has anyone heard anything about this? I have a friend here in Michigan who said her mother was just given a tourist visa to travel to the USA from Brasil, but never thought she qualified for one. Just wondering if anyone heard anything?
ryjer
You are referring to the Visa Waiver program: no visa required to come to the US. Must have a bio-metric passport, the one with the "chip" and digital photo.
Bush signed the Bill last year, adding Brazil to the list of visa waiver countries.
I saw a recently issued Brazilian passport, it had the digital photo but no electronic chip. It seems the Brazilian government is dragging it's feet on this. Interesting as Lula lobbied directly to Bush on this matter. BTW, the tourist visa now costs $130, (ours and theirs.)
You are referring to the Visa Waiver program: no visa required to come to the US. Must have a bio-metric passport, the one with the "chip" and digital photo.
Bush signed the Bill last year, adding Brazil to the list of visa waiver countries.
I saw a recently issued Brazilian passport, it had the digital photo but no electronic chip. It seems the Brazilian government is dragging it's feet on this. Interesting as Lula lobbied directly to Bush on this matter. BTW, the tourist visa now costs $130, (ours and theirs.)
that once the government of Brasil updates their process (passports with the chips), then the whole visa thing goes away? I was noticing that there hasn't been much talk about this. While the process is still going on, has the US government adjusted the way they process visa apps for Brasilians wanting to enter the US as tourists?
Thanks,
ryjer
that once the government of Brasil updates their process (passports with the chips), then the whole visa thing goes away? I was noticing that there hasn't been much talk about this. While the process is still going on, has the US government adjusted the way they process visa apps for Brasilians wanting to enter the US as tourists?I wouldn't hold your breath. Very little if any chance of it happening.
that once the government of Brasil updates their process (passports with the chips), then the whole visa thing goes away? I was noticing that there hasn't been much talk about this. While the process is still going on, has the US government adjusted the way they process visa apps for Brasilians wanting to enter the US as tourists?
Thanks,
ryjerDo you know what the rquirements are now? I just talked to a girl last week who was rejected. She owns a home, has 1 child and has a regular job. The agent said she didnt have anything that would "obligate" her to return to Brasil and he denied her application. I guess the fact that she had a son wasnt a good enough reaon for her to go back to brasil, in his eyes.
Do you know what the requirements are now? I just talked to a girl last week who was rejected. She owns a home, has 1 child and has a regular job.
I'm not sure about the current requirements, but from the various stories I've been told, they appear to be very arbitrary and capricious. My friend who lives in the same city states that her mother was just approved although she has no real income or savings.
ryjer
And while I know there are isolated incidents, I'm reminded of this story:
http://seattle.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/2008/pr040708a.htm
Bush signed the Bill last year, adding Brazil to the list of visa waiver countries.
I don't believe it. If this is so, why is Brazil still requiring visas of Americans, and stating that it is in reciprocity for Americans requiring visas of Brazilians. I would like to see some authentication of this statement, e.g. a reliable news report. Then I'll be convinced.
I don't believe it. If this is so, why is Brazil still requiring visas of Americans, and stating that it is in reciprocity for Americans requiring visas of Brazilians. I would like to see some authentication of this statement, e.g. a reliable news report. Then I'll be convinced.
How about the Wall Street Journal?:
This was printed July 30th, 2007, Bush signed it into law Aug 3, 07. I remember seeing an report in USAToday, which i cant find at the moment.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118574310936281516.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Congress is doing something right at the border for a change, making it easier for allies from Estonia to South Korea to visit America. The move is an economic boon and a foreign-policy success story.
Homeland-security legislation passed last week on Capitol Hill expands eligibility for America's visa-waiver program. The program allows nationals of designated countries to enter the U.S. for up to 90 days without applying for a visa before leaving home. Twenty-seven countries currently participate, including most of Western Europe, Australia and Japan. Now citizens of 12 more will be able to apply immediately, and it will be easier for other countries to join in the future.
The U.S. currently does a terrible job of welcoming the many citizens of friendly nations who want to pay brief visits. They must pay an average of $100 for a visa, submit a mountain of paperwork and often take time off work to travel long distances to a U.S. consulate for the mandatory in-person interview. The biggest stumbling block is the so-called "refusal rate," the annual percentage of visa applications from a country's nationals that are denied for any reason. Current law requires a refusal rate of less than 3% before a country can win visa-waiver status.
The new legislation increases the limit to 10%, while giving the Secretary of Homeland Security greater flexibility to weigh a country's application based on its law enforcement and antiterror cooperation with the U.S. Applicants need to meet criteria ranging from airport screening to secure storage of blank passports. Newly eligible countries are Argentina, Brazil, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Greece, Israel, Malta, Slovakia, South Korea, Taiwan and Uruguay.
As more countries join the program, the U.S. will enjoy economic benefits. Consider that last year South Koreans logged 758,000 visits to the U.S., a number that could hit 811,000 this year. Other Koreans still may be deterred by the visa hassle. When Canada waived visas for Koreans in 1994, visits shot up 80% in the first year. Each unique visit from a Korean pours an average of $3,700 into the U.S. economy for airfare, hotel rooms, shopping and all the taxes added to those expenditures, according to the Commerce Department.
The text of the bill makes clear that Congress is using the visa-waiver program as a reward to some of America's "partners in the war on terror." President Bush endorsed the provision as a benefit to "our closest partners." Border policy is fertile terrain for this kind of public diplomacy, because it is typically the first run-in with "official" America that foreigners have. The U.S. stands to gain from rolling out a red carpet for guests of goodwill."
Chingon,
Okay, I stand corrected. My apologies. However, this means that Americans are being screwed by Brazil, because we are still being required to obtain visas, even for tourism. I know, because I just got a new 5-year visa in July (my third) and had to pay US$140.
The following is from the website of the Brazilian Consulate in Miami, from which I obtained my visa:
"The fee for American citizens is charged in reciprocity to an identical fee paid by Brazilian citizens who apply for a visa to the United States."
So apparently the word hasn't gotten to the individual consulates, or, more likely, the visa waiver by the US hasn't yet gone into effect. Either way, I look forward to the day when Americans can travel to Brazil without the hassle of getting a visa.
L
Poucolouco
08-01-08, 20:36
Chingon,
Okay, I stand corrected. My apologies. However, this means that Americans are being screwed by Brazil, because we are still being required to obtain visas, even for tourism. I know, because I just got a new 5-year visa in July (my third) and had to pay US$140.
The following is from the website of the Brazilian Consulate in Miami, from which I obtained my visa:
"The fee for American citizens is charged in reciprocity to an identical fee paid by Brazilian citizens who apply for a visa to the United States."Don't be so fast to only blame Brazil. You didn't pay attention to the word "reciprocity." Americans are not being screwed any more than Brazilians are being screwed. The U.S. requires visas with the same restrictions as Brazil. The US$140 fee that you paid is the same cost that is levied by the U.S. State Department on Brazilians who wish to visit the United States.
So apparently the word hasn't gotten to the individual consulates, or, more likely, the visa waiver by the US hasn't yet gone into effect.
L
Not in effect yet. At least not for Greece so far.
Visiting the US Dept of State website only lists the original 27 Visa Waiver Program countries.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries
Nothing there about the new law. A year after being signed, it's not in effect for Brazil or any other country on the new list.
Until it goes in effect, tourist visas still required. :(
Lesson learned from my many years of travelling is to avoid female customs officers if possibe. They are more trouble because IMO they are more qurious and are going to search every bit of your luggage.
I should have known that before. On my return from Brasil back in Canada, the custom lady, searched all my luggage, went through all my pictures and my memory cards. Luckily I had only touristy pics on those. This is crazy. On all my years to travelling the world, this is the first time that a custom agent goes through all my luggage and camera and interrogates me about my travel, why going to Brasil and how I got to know people in Brasil!!!!!
And all of this, on my way back! Just ridiculous! And at the end, when I asked her why was I searched as if I were a criminal, she just said, it is random check! Random check my ass!On a plane of about 200 people, I was the only one searched!
Have any of you experienced the same lately ?
Thanks for the words of wisdom El Greco, from now on, I will remember them everytime I travel!
Don't be so fast to only blame Brazil. You didn't pay attention to the word "reciprocity." Americans are not being screwed any more than Brazilians are being screwed. The U.S. requires visas with the same restrictions as Brazil. The US$140 fee that you paid is the same cost that is levied by the U.S. State Department on Brazilians who wish to visit the United States.
I know what "reciprocity" means. But I was operating on the assumption, based on the WSJ article cited in Chingon's report, that Brazilians were no longer required to obtain visas to travel to the US. Apparently this is not the case.
Poucolouco
08-02-08, 20:54
I know what "reciprocity" means. But I was operating on the assumption, based on the WSJ article cited in Chingon's report, that Brazilians were no longer required to obtain visas to travel to the US. Apparently this is not the case.Under your assumption, it wouldn't be reciprocity, would it?
Buttman Returns
08-03-08, 13:06
Hi all,
I plan on staying in Brazil for 8-9 months (just travelling, without working) and I've read on WikiTravel that I can only extend my tourist visa for another 90 days after the first 90 days, so only 6 month every year in total (and a year is counted from first entry).
Does anyone have any experience or advice how I can stay longer?
Also, does anyone have any experience with overstaying in Brazil? Is it true that they don't give you a 'black stamp' and it wouldn't affect my future visits to the country?
Cheers,
BR
Buttman Returns
08-03-08, 13:08
Hi all,
Does anyone have any experience with opening a Brazilian bank account as a traveller? I've done that while travelling in Australia years ago and it could be very handy.
Cheers,
BR
I plan on staying in Brazil for 8-9 months (just travelling, without working) and I've read on WikiTravel that I can only extend my tourist visa for another 90 days after the first 90 days, so only 6 month every year in total (and a year is counted from first entry).
Does anyone have any experience or advice how I can stay longer?
No, you propably can't do that. If I'm not wrong you get 90+90 days, and after that you have to be outside Brazil for 6 months before returning. I don't think there is a simple or at least legal way to stay longer.
Once I stayed 8 months in Brazil, but it was only possible as I was studying at a university in Rio. I got a "Cédula de Identidade de Estrangeiro" with one year permit to stay in Brazil
Does anyone have any experience with opening a Brazilian bank account as a traveller?
No again. When I got my CPF at Banco do Brasil they offered me to open a Conta Poupança (savings account). If I remember right, after the last discussion we had here about this issue the conclusion was that the rules have changed and it's not possible anymore.
...
Once I stayed 8 months in Brazil, but it was only possible as I was studying at a university in Rio. I got a "Cédula de Identidade de Estrangeiro" with one year permit to stay in Brazil...
So maybe it is enough to contact some university and pay the annual rate of subscription, I guess very cheap, you get that cedula and maybe you do not have to go to daily to university.... I only suppose, if not possible, so the only way is what ? To marry a brazilian woman to get brazilian passport ?
So maybe it is enough to contact some university and pay the annual rate of subscription, I guess very cheap, you get that cedula and maybe you do not have to go to daily to university.... I only suppose, if not possible, so the only way is what ? To marry a brazilian woman to get brazilian passport ?
It maybe works or maybe not?
Expect some work as almost nothing works in a smooth way in Brazil.
Hi all,
Does anyone have any experience with opening a Brazilian bank account as a traveller? I've done that while travelling in Australia years ago and it could be very handy.
Cheers,
BR
I don't know how this will work, but what about opening an account with HSBC Bank. They're an international bank, so if you open an account in your local area, if you need help, they should be able to do something for you in Brasil. In the past, I've read something about that here or another forum.
ryjer
Sunset Strip
08-03-08, 17:29
So maybe it is enough to contact some university and pay the annual rate of subscription, I guess very cheap, you get that cedula and maybe you do not have to go to daily to university.... I only suppose, if not possible, so the only way is what ? To marry a brazilian woman to get brazilian passport ?
The ironic thing about all of this is that my friends who go to Brazil as academics envy ME, the tourist, because I have a 5 year multiple entry visa, while their permission to enter is granted based on how long they are allowed via the University program. If they ever want to come back they have to reapply. One friend told me the tourist visa is better because there is less paperwork.
So, I guess, the grass always greener...
TJ
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Agam Shah, IDG News Service Fri Aug 1, 7:50 PM ET
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Under your assumption, it wouldn't be reciprocity, would it?
That was my very point.
Poucolouco
08-04-08, 01:48
That was my very point.One year after enactment of the Homeland Security legislation extending the visa waiver program, none of the 12 newly eligible countries have been accepted into the program by the Department. Part of the delay is full implementation of the e-chip required in passports issued by these countries after October 26, 2006. The new Brazilian passport adopted in 2006 does not include this feature. Without the e-chip on their passports, Brazilians will still need a visa to enter the U. S. And in reciprocity, U. S. Citizens will need visas to enter Brazil.
Jamaicanceo
08-04-08, 09:52
I applied for my Brazilian visa at www.staynbrazil.com. This site has an expedited service as well.
Buttman Returns
08-04-08, 11:48
Thanks for your advice, guys!
Re visa, I may apply for a student visa then, as you have suggested. As long as I don't really have to study... lol
I'm still curious whether anyone has had any experience with overstaying and paying some fine; and whether there is a risk of black stamp. If WikiTravel's information is correct, it may be cheaper to overstay rather than pay tuition fee... :-) But I wouldn't like to risk it if there is a 'no return' policy... :-(
Marrying a Brazilian girl? Too easy... ;-)
Re bank account, thanks for the info re Banco do Brasil. It's a shame that this is not an option, but it's always good to know that in advance.
The real is getting stronger and stronger each day, so it would be good to change my travel budget to local currency once I get to Brazil. There is also the convenience of using a local ATM card etc. I believe I'll follow your advice and enquire in HSBC, this may be a good idea!
If anyone knows of any other Brazilian bank that allows opening a traveller account, please share... :-)
Thanks heaps,
BR
Thanks for your advice, guys!
Re visa, I may apply for a student visa then, as you have suggested. As long as I don't really have to study... lol
I'm still curious whether anyone has had any experience with overstaying and paying some fine; and whether there is a risk of black stamp. If WikiTravel's information is correct, it may be cheaper to overstay rather than pay tuition fee... :-) But I wouldn't like to risk it if there is a 'no return' policy... :-(
If you overstay severely, and are CAUGHT, you will have to pay a fine. Something like R$8 reals per day, maximum fine of R$800 something reals. You could also get a giant red stamp in your passport that says "Deportação." If they give you this stamp, you have 8 days to pay the fine and leave Brazil, and cannot return for 6 months. If you do not leave within the 8 days and are caught AGAIN, you will incur a second fine, be escorted to the first plane back to the US, and not allowed to return for 10 years.
Having said that, it is extremely unusual to get caught. If you get asked for ID at a police checkpoint, show them a copy of the information page of your passport. It is very rare that they will follow up and want to see your actual entry stamp. A R$50 real note can help insure this.
If you overstay and are not caught, you will be questioned at the airport when you leave. Play stupid, pay your fine, and you will likely be allowed to leave without a big red stamp on your passport.
(Yes, I do know what I am talking about here.)
Marrying a Brazilian girl? Too easy... ;-)
I am going to assume you're kidding here.
Re bank account, thanks for the info re Banco do Brasil. It's a shame that this is not an option, but it's always good to know that in advance.
The real is getting stronger and stronger each day, so it would be good to change my travel budget to local currency once I get to Brazil. There is also the convenience of using a local ATM card etc. I believe I'll follow your advice and enquire in HSBC, this may be a good idea!
If anyone knows of any other Brazilian bank that allows opening a traveller account, please share... :-)
Thanks heaps,
BR
I am not aware of any Brazilian bank that will allow a traveler to open an account. Including HSBC.
Non residents can't open bank accounts. Period.
Anyway it is very complicated even for resident foreigner. First of all you need someone to back you up, someone who can assure the bank that you are who you claim to be. Also you have to proof your income. In my case my employer opened the account. But I needed also another account and it took me 4 months and lots of paperwork to do it. Bank is international bank.
So if you are just tourist, just get a Visa electron or any other ATM card that allows you to withdraw money abroad. Just remember that most of the banks are limiting the daily withdrawal to R$ 1000,-, only in Bradesco you can withdraw 2 x R$ 600,- but you end up paying the handling fee twice. Also between 22.00 - 06.00 you can withdraw only R$ 100,-
Re visa, I may apply for a student visa then, as you have suggested. As long as I don't really have to study... lol
Prepare yourself for lots of hard work. Find a university with courses for foreigners. Apply and get accepted. When the semester starts you have to turn up at the university. Lots of administrational paperwork and fee's to pay. Then you have to struggle some more at Policía Federal to get your permit to stay.
If you have no intention of studying it's better to skip the idea of staying >6 months as a student. It's not worth all the work and hazzle. You better accept that you'll only stay for 6 months.
Just remember that most of the banks are limiting the daily withdrawal to R$ 1000,-, only in Bradesco you can withdraw 2 x R$ 600,- but you end up paying the handling fee twice.
Citibank allows several R$ 1000 withdrawals on the same day.
Hi all,
I plan on staying in Brazil for 8-9 months (just travelling, without working) and I've read on WikiTravel that I can only extend my tourist visa for another 90 days after the first 90 days, so only 6 month every year in total (and a year is counted from first entry).
Does anyone have any experience or advice how I can stay longer?
Also, does anyone have any experience with overstaying in Brazil? Is it true that they don't give you a 'black stamp' and it wouldn't affect my future visits to the country?
Cheers,
BR
As you plan on travelling, it is also important to note that if you overstay your 6 months, you will not be able to board local flights from one part of Brazil to another as, even for local flights, they will want to see your passport and entry stamp. If you overstay and plan to travel, you will have to take busses.
I am not aware of any Brazilian bank that will allow a traveler to open an account. Including HSBC.
When I mentioned HSBC as an option, I was not suggesting that you could open an account in Brasil. You can open an account in your home country if they are located there. If, while in Brasil you need to do some banking, they should be able to help you, as you have a valid account.
ryjer
You can open an account in your home country if they are located there. If, while in Brasil you need to do some banking, they should be able to help you, as you have a valid account.
ryjer
I can only speak about Citibank. Any problems I've had, I've always been referred to the branch that I open the account at, as they have all my records. This is in the US.
I once tried to make a deposit to my Citibank US account while in Brazil, it was rejected. I was told Brazil Citibank did not have access to my US account. Citibank US and Brazil only share the name Citibank.
As to all the hassle over foreigners opening Brazilian bank accounts, it's a response to money laundering. They want to know where the money is coming from.
By opening an account with a bank that is present in Brazil, you'll save on the ATM fee's by using their ATM's. But they may charge you a foreign exchange fee. Best to read the fine print.
HSBC offers a premier membership that allows you to do quite a bit internationally, but have steep balance requirements. With a basic account, you can use the atm anywhere w/o fees, but are subject to a 3% currency conversion fee. Check it out if interested. If you do get a premier account, I believe they may waive the conversion fee.
http://www.us.hsbc.com/1/2/3/hsbcpremier
ryjer
Visiting the US Dept of State website only lists the original 27 Visa Waiver Program countries.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries
Nothing there about the new law. A year after being signed, it's not in effect for Brazil or any other country on the new list.
Until it goes in effect, tourist visas still required. :(
The text of the WSJ article states...
Now citizens of 12 more will be able to apply immediately, and it will be easier for other countries to join in the future.
This just means that you don't have to apply for a Visa before you leave your home country. It is kind if vague, but it sounds to me like you can apply for a visa waiver when you arrive in the U.S.
I should have known that before. On my return from Brasil back in Canada, the custom lady, searched all my luggage, went through all my pictures and my memory cards. Luckily I had only touristy pics on those. This is crazy. On all my years to travelling the world, this is the first time that a custom agent goes through all my luggage and camera and interrogates me about my travel, why going to Brasil and how I got to know people in Brasil!!!!!
And all of this, on my way back! Just ridiculous! And at the end, when I asked her why was I searched as if I were a criminal, she just said, it is random check! Random check my ass!On a plane of about 200 people, I was the only one searched!
Have any of you experienced the same lately ?
Thanks for the words of wisdom El Greco, from now on, I will remember them everytime I travel!
You know this is what Customs does. I got searched once coming back from Brazil; they were looking for a false bottom in my suitcase. But they didn't go through my photos, this is the one I'm concerned about, not that I'm such an avid picture taker of the girls but I'm curious to know what they would do if they found naked pictures of the girls on your camera who are obviously of age.
....but I'm curious to know what they would do if they found naked pictures of the girls on your camera who are obviously of age.
Nothing. What can they do? You wouldn't be breaking any law. The reason they look in your camera is to be sure it's really a camera, not a fake in which drugs are stashed. Also, they may be looking for child pornography.
El Minetero
08-05-08, 08:50
Does Brazil have any kind of Retired Visa? Is it possible to get a year's visa from a consulate before leaving the U.S.?
Thanks,
KT
Once I was travelling through all of Latinamerica. I ended up in Miami. I had all my films developed. When I picked up the photos I discovered that they hadn't developed any of my nude pics. They even had cut of all the negatives with nude photos and kept them. That was many photos as it was a 15 months trip.
I got seriously pissed of and managed to find where the laboratory was located and headed there. After some wild discussions they finally made the manager to come to the laboratory (this was late evening) and open up a safe and give me back all the negatives. She said the reason they kept the negatives was because of federal laws. Of course there where no illegal photos, just a lot of bunda shots.
Buttman Returns
08-05-08, 12:46
Wow, thanks for all your advice re visa +bank account!
HSBC have already confirmed that they cannot open a bank account for me in Brazil.
Seems like the best solution is to keep my money in Oz and withdraw cash from Citibank. :-)
It's good to know in advance that applying for a student visa is a real hassle. And yes, I was joking re marrying a Brazilian girl... ;-) (It's a likely scenario, though... :-) )
So overstaying a couple of months seems like the best solution for me.
Thanks for the tips re what the fine +risks are; and about domestic flights as well. I'll keep that in mind... :-) (I'll also keep in mind to keep a R$50 note with the photocopy of my passport... lol)
Cheers,
BR
Once I was travelling through all of Latinamerica. I ended up in Miami. I had all my films developed. When I picked up the photos I discovered that they hadn't developed any of my nude pics. They even had cut of all the negatives with nude photos and kept them. That was many photos as it was a 15 months trip.
I got seriously pissed of and managed to find where the laboratory was located and headed there. After some wild discussions they finally made the manager to come to the laboratory (this was late evening) and open up a safe and give me back all the negatives. She said the reason they kept the negatives was because of federal laws. Of course there where no illegal photos, just a lot of bunda shots.
Federal law? Did they explain what the law was concerning naked pictures? I never heard of such a thing.
Sunset Strip
08-05-08, 17:17
Once I was travelling through all of Latinamerica. I ended up in Miami. I had all my films developed. When I picked up the photos I discovered that they hadn't developed any of my nude pics. They even had cut of all the negatives with nude photos and kept them. That was many photos as it was a 15 months trip.
I got seriously pissed of and managed to find where the laboratory was located and headed there. After some wild discussions they finally made the manager to come to the laboratory (this was late evening) and open up a safe and give me back all the negatives. She said the reason they kept the negatives was because of federal laws. Of course there where no illegal photos, just a lot of bunda shots.
In general most Southern US states will Not develop nude pictures. It is up to the discretion of the film developer but most will not as there are at times vice stings to catch them developing something illegal. So, in general they just do not develop any nude photos in the South.
I am sure this regulation is laxed in parts of Florida, for example, but then it is still the South. I am sure there is no federal law against nudity. Remember, they sell Playboy and Penthouse in the airports!
The southern states do have state laws and local laws against pornography. When I was in college in the South I tried to order some porn and when they asked for the state and I told them they refused to send it.
This was a Deep South state.
In CA, I have had no problem developing pictures because the state and local porn laws are lax.
TJ
Federal law? Did they explain what the law was concerning naked pictures? I never heard of such a thing.
I didn't get any closer explanation. I guess the manager (a woman) maybe got upset about the large quantity of nude pics.
P.S Maybe she wanted the pics for herself? :)
I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one. I was hoping someone with legal expertise would have posted on this topic.
CHILD PORNOGRAPHY PREVENTION ACT 1996
Have you noticed, when one visits an adult website or views a XXX rated movie,
the disclaimer about the custodian of records, that every image depicts someone over 18, and that there are proof of age for the performers?
That is all due to this federal law. Conviction carries mandatory prison sentences of at least 15 years for production, distribution, and receiving of child pornography; 5 years for possession offenses and life imprisonment for repeat offenders convicted of sexual abuse of a minor.
Naked pictures of girls on your camera who are "obviously of age" does not jive with this law. This law assumes that all photos involve minors and it will be up to the defendant to prove that the creation of the pictures did not involve minors!
I would suggest taking a picture of the GDP's ID.
http://www.cyber-rights.org/reports/uscases.htm
Going through customs, they can look at everything without any suspicion of illegal activity. They can even seize documents and laptops indefinitely. All done to keep us safe. The only thing preventing this is the volume. Too many people coming in.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/01/AR2008080102988.html
This law assumes that all photos involve minors and it will be up to the defendant to prove that the creation of the pictures did not involve minors!
I would suggest taking a picture of the GDP's ID.
Chingon, leave it to you, you are a master of the search engine. This is why I asked the question in the first place, this is what I was afraid of. The girls in the photos are obviously of age but who determines that? Especially now that your 5,000 miles away, or maybe it doesn't matter?
Firstly overstaying visa :- You will get 3 stamps in your passport when you leave. The first is your exit stamp, no problem there. The second stamp says "departmento de policia" and it states which article of the law you have violated. The third stamp states "malta não paga". Now let me explain.
The second and third stamp relate to you overstaying your visa. The 3rd stamp states the fine you need to pay if and when you renter the country. Note, you will only need to pay the fine if you renter the country. The fine is either R$ 7.00 or R$ 8.00 per day (can't remember exactly), maximum of R$800.00 from memory. If you wish to renter Brazil, you can anytime, it is not a drama. Having said that, the next time you arrive, the actual paying of the fine will waste at least an hour. The stamps you will receive are not all that big, normal size stuff. I have personally seen these stamps, many of my friends have gotten them, some have returned a week later without a problem.
Travelling without a visa. The domestic airlines are expected to check your passport for stamps etc, in realty they generally don’t, or at best they glance at your entry form. Some rental car companies also check, hence whenver you are required to show your passport you will be at risk.
One further point, do not expect your visa to be extended easily once you have stayed the first 3 months. Everything in Brasil is designed to be as difficult as possible and it is , nothing makes sense. Most likely they will give you another 1 month, then you will need to go back and apply for another month etc, you may get lucky and score another 3 months, just don’t count on itetc, it is much easier to leave the county and come back. Maybe take a trip to Foz and cross the border into Argentina and come back a few minutes later. Don’t go to Paraguay for this purpose when in Foz, they don’t stamp your passport while leaving brazil or entering Paraguay or vice a versa.
Photos – US.
I store my photos now on a server, I make sure I have nothing on my computer that is going to cause me the slightest problem while entering the US. You can rent storage space for $10 a month, just google a service. Is it just me or is the US violating more and more civil rights everyday?
I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one. I was hoping someone with legal expertise would have posted on this topic.
CHILD PORNOGRAPHY PREVENTION ACT 1996
Have you noticed, when one visits an adult website or views a XXX rated movie,
the disclaimer about the custodian of records, that every image depicts someone over 18, and that there are proof of age for the performers?
That is all due to this federal law. Conviction carries mandatory prison sentences of at least 15 years for production, distribution, and receiving of child pornography; 5 years for possession offenses and life imprisonment for repeat offenders convicted of sexual abuse of a minor.
Naked pictures of girls on your camera who are "obviously of age" does not jive with this law. This law assumes that all photos involve minors and it will be up to the defendant to prove that the creation of the pictures did not involve minors!
I would suggest taking a picture of the GDP's ID.
http://www.cyber-rights.org/reports/uscases.htm
Going through customs, they can look at everything without any suspicion of illegal activity. They can even seize documents and laptops indefinitely. All done to keep us safe. The only thing preventing this is the volume. Too many people coming in.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/01/AR2008080102988.html
Looking through this, the burden of proof would be substantially different for private photos as opposed to images for public display. In regards to private photos the burden on proof would have to be on the state. Having said that, you would be foolish to have any photos of youngish girls (18+ youngish looking) on you camera while passing through customs.
Firstly overstaying visa :- You will get 3 stamps in your passport when you leave. The first is your exit stamp, no problem there. The second stamp says "departmento de policia" and it states which article of the law you have violated. The third stamp states "malta não paga". Now let me explain.
The second and third stamp relate to you overstaying your visa. The 3rd stamp states the fine you need to pay if and when you renter the country. Note, you will only need to pay the fine if you renter the country. The fine is either R$ 7.00 or R$ 8.00 per day (can't remember exactly), maximum of R$800.00 from memory. If you wish to renter Brazil, you can anytime, it is not a drama. Having said that, the next time you arrive, the actual paying of the fine will waste at least an hour. The stamps you will receive are not all that big, normal size stuff. I have personally seen these stamps, many of my friends have gotten them, some have returned a week later without a problem.
Travelling without a visa. The domestic airlines are expected to check your passport for stamps etc, in realty they generally don’t, or at best they glance at your entry form. Some rental car companies also check, hence whenver you are required to show your passport you will be at risk.
One further point, do not expect your visa to be extended easily once you have stayed the first 3 months. Everything in Brasil is designed to be as difficult as possible and it is , nothing makes sense. Most likely they will give you another 1 month, then you will need to go back and apply for another month etc, you may get lucky and score another 3 months, just don’t count on itetc, it is much easier to leave the county and come back. Maybe take a trip to Foz and cross the border into Argentina and come back a few minutes later. Don’t go to Paraguay for this purpose when in Foz, they don’t stamp your passport while leaving brazil or entering Paraguay or vice a versa.
Photos – US.
I store my photos now on a server, I make sure I have nothing on my computer that is going to cause me the slightest problem while entering the US. You can rent storage space for $10 a month, just google a service. Is it just me or is the US violating more and more civil rights everyday?
Very good advice. But if you are caught in country on an overstay, you get different stamps. Two large red ones which each take up a page in your passport. They will then add another stamp when your fine is paid. It is also much easier to pay your fine before leaving the country. You can do it at any Banco do Brasil very quickly. You then have to take the receipt and your passport to the Policia Federal to recieve the proper stamp. You should also keep the receipt in case you have any problems re-entering the country at a later date.
Very good advice. But if you are caught in country on an overstay, you get different stamps. Two large red ones which each take up a page in your passport. They will then add another stamp when your fine is paid. It is also much easier to pay your fine before leaving the country. You can do it at any Banco do Brasil very quickly. You then have to take the receipt and your passport to the Policia Federal to recieve the proper stamp. You should also keep the receipt in case you have any problems re-entering the country at a later date.
If you are caught within Brazil with an overextended visa, after they stamp you red, do they deport you straight away or can you stay a day or two and get your affairs in order?
If my passport was ever marked with 2 huge red stamps I would throw it away and apply for another passport. Those stamps could cause problems while entering other countries.
Buttman Returns
08-05-08, 23:19
If you are caught within Brazil with an overextended visa, after they stamp you red, do they deport you straight away or can you stay a day or two and get your affairs in order?
Thanks guys!
This is a good question. I'd like to add another one.
I understand that I won't get any black stamps if I take the airport option.
But if I do choose to pay my fine prior to departure (and I assume that I'd have to go to the federal police to get the fine first) - do I get any red stamps then? Or just if I'm caught?
Poucolouco
08-06-08, 03:58
Thanks guys!
This is a good question. I'd like to add another one.
I understand that I won't get any black stamps if I take the airport option.
But if I do choose to pay my fine prior to departure (and I assume that I'd have to go to the federal police to get the fine first) - do I get any red stamps then? Or just if I'm caught?Note: There is a Federal Police station at the Rio international airport where you can go to settle your visa violation. It is on the second floor at the far north end of Terminal one.
If you are caught within Brazil with an overextended visa, after they stamp you red, do they deport you straight away or can you stay a day or two and get your affairs in order?
If my passport was ever marked with 2 huge red stamps I would throw it away and apply for another passport. Those stamps could cause problems while entering other countries.
You get 8 days to get your stuff together and leave. If you do not leave within the 8 days, and they catch you again, you will be escorted straight to the airport and onto a plane.
Thanks guys!
This is a good question. I'd like to add another one.
I understand that I won't get any black stamps if I take the airport option.
But if I do choose to pay my fine prior to departure (and I assume that I'd have to go to the federal police to get the fine first) - do I get any red stamps then? Or just if I'm caught?
It kind of depends on their mood. I know a guy who overstayed by almost 2 years, played stupid when he left, and got no stamps whatsoever, just paid his fine and left.
There was also a hilarious incident in which I saw a young guy at the airport trying to get an extension. The Feds told him that he was already 3 days over the 90 day limit, and therefore could not be given an extension. The officer actually told him, "Just stay and pay the fine when you leave. It doesn't really matter." The kid was like, "What? Are you serious? Just stay?" And the officer nodded and shrugged.
Buttman Returns
08-06-08, 14:22
It kind of depends on their mood. I know a guy who overstayed by almost 2 years, played stupid when he left, and got no stamps whatsoever, just paid his fine and left.
There was also a hilarious incident in which I saw a young guy at the airport trying to get an extension. The Feds told him that he was already 3 days over the 90 day limit, and therefore could not be given an extension. The officer actually told him, "Just stay and pay the fine when you leave. It doesn't really matter." The kid was like, "What? Are you serious? Just stay?" And the officer nodded and shrugged.
lol... It is a good story indeed! :-) I'm gonna start practising on my stupid face right now... ;-)
Cheers mate!
I'm gonna start practising on my stupid face right now... ;-)
Practise hard, not all PF will shrug his shoulders and let you stay.
I have experienced at three occasions in two different locations in Bahia when the Polícia Federal arrived to check passports.
One of the places was Morro de São Paulo, an island outside of Salvador. A place very much visited by gringos. About two dozens of heavily armed PF arrived in the morning checking all the pousadas in the village.
They cleaned out all the overstaying gringos very quickly. The overstaying gringo tourists had to go with the PF to the mainland the same day. The overstaying gringos involved with running restaurants and pousadas got three days to leave the country. Some of the guys had been there for years.
Buttman Returns
08-08-08, 11:10
Practise hard, not all PF will shrug his shoulders and let you stay.
I have experienced at three occasions in two different locations in Bahia when the Polícia Federal arrived to check passports.
One of the places was Morro de São Paulo, an island outside of Salvador. A place very much visited by gringos. About two dozens of heavily armed PF arrived in the morning checking all the pousadas in the village.
They cleaned out all the overstaying gringos very quickly. The overstaying gringo tourists had to go with the PF to the mainland the same day. The overstaying gringos involved with running restaurants and pousadas got three days to leave the country. Some of the guys had been there for years.
and the R$50 notes didn't help? ;-)
besides, you don't know me, I don't need to practise hard, I can look really stupid naturally! hehehe
and the R$50 notes didn't help? ;-)
besides, you don't know me, I don't need to practise hard, I can look really stupid naturally! hehehe
That time it seemed like bribes didn't work.
I would be very careful trying to bribe a brazilian cop. If they don't swallow the bait you can get in even worse trouble than you already are.
A R$ 50 note might be enough to bribe a PM if you have commited a harmless crime. If it's something more serious it will cost you a lot more.
Bribing a PF propably needs a even bigger wallet. The few PF I know in Brazil would wrinkle their noses if somebody offered a R$ 50 bribe.
Anyway, it's better to be a good boy and behave well and hope you'll not have to be involved with brazilian cops.
Speaking about bribes... I mentioned that the Policía Federal came to Morro de São Paulo and "deported" overstaying gringos. A couple of days later they arrested a german guy living on Morro.
This german had constructed a huge disco-club on Morro a couple of years ago. The club looks quite nice but it sticks out a lot in an odd way on this primitive paradise-like island. The locals just hate the place.
Anyway the police arrested the german owner because the club had sold drugs and the police sized a large quantity. The police brought the hand-cuffed owner to the mainland.
The following day he was back on the island. According to the locals he bought of the police with R$ 10'000.
That's brazilian justice in a nutshell.
Exec Talent
08-08-08, 13:38
Being a prostitute in Brazil is legal. Being a pimp is not. Termas owners and managers are glorified pimps. To a lesser extent, all "employees" of a termas not performing acts of prostitution derive their income from prostitution.
"Bribe" is such an ugly word... Here, we prefer to say, "jeitinho." ;o)
"Bribe" is such an ugly word... Here, we prefer to say, "jeitinho." ;o)
I was in Manila a couple of months ago and my friend, who lives there, used the word "compensation" for them to overlook a traffic ticket. It worked fine.
Buttman Returns
08-09-08, 04:37
"Bribe" is such an ugly word... Here, we prefer to say, "jeitinho." ;o)
What's "jeitinho"? I couldn't find it in the dictionary... :-(
What's "jeitinho"? I couldn't find it in the dictionary... :-(
Jesuscola probably has a wry smile with that. It comes up in a very Brasilian phrase like, "Da para dar um jeitinho?" which you could translate as meaning, "Is there a way round this?"
To be honest, I'd personally hesitate to use it unless feeling exceptionally confident. I think it would sound very different coming out of the mouth of a non-Brasilian. The sense is the international thing. I don't think the word itself has any magic effect. And actually knowing exactly when to say it in a difficult situation with RJ policia or other officials could be a different thing entirely.
As Sperto said, you can easily get into deeper trouble. Bribes are a way of life and not immoral in the same sense they would be in the West. But the etiquette can be pretty sophisticated ;-)
Jeitinho is the diminutive of jeito. Jeito meaning "way", hence basically it means is there a "little way" around this. In Brazil I think you need to go through all the ceremony and crap until the other party suggests the "little way " around the problem.
Jesuscola probably has a wry smile with that. It comes up in a very Brasilian phrase like, "Da para dar um jeitinho?" which you could translate as meaning, "Is there a way round this?"
To be honest, I'd personally hesitate to use it unless feeling exceptionally confident. I think it would sound very different coming out of the mouth of a non-Brasilian. The sense is the international thing. I don't think the word itself has any magic effect. And actually knowing exactly when to say it in a difficult situation with RJ policia or other officials could be a different thing entirely.
As Sperto said, you can easily get into deeper trouble. Bribes are a way of life and not immoral in the same sense they would be in the West. But the etiquette can be pretty sophisticated ;-)
Yeah, I was smiling when I wrote that. The translations provided are correct. Usually, when explaining how I've managed to accomplish something out of the ordinary, a girl might say, "Ahhhh, jeitinho brasileiro!!!" So it's not JUST a euphemism for bribe, but could also mean sweet talking, indicating that you both have a good friend in common, slipping a waiter a 20 to get you a table, etc. "A little way around," indeed.
Poucolouco
08-09-08, 16:48
As Sperto said, you can easily get into deeper trouble. Bribes are a way of life and not immoral in the same sense they would be in the West. But the etiquette can be pretty sophisticated ;-)Christopherd,
I have noticed your frequent use of the geographical term "the West" in comparing Brazil to other areas of the world. I have always understood the West to be the Occident versus the Orient, i.e. the East. With all due respect, I am curious as to what you are referring to when you use this term.
Pussyhunter099
08-09-08, 18:18
Last year there was an article on jeitinho on the BBC here is the link.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6734407.stm
Christopherd,
I have noticed your frequent use of the geographical term "the West" in comparing Brazil to other areas of the world. I have always understood the West to be the Occident versus the Orient, i.e. the East. With all due respect, I am curious as to what you are referring to when you use this term.
No geographical accuracy intended - I tend to use it in the sense of '1st world countries' but even then one would have to exclude Japan which is very different. It's a bit less long winded than saying UK, USA, Canada, most of Europe before the EU expanded' lol. Most people seem to understand it, hence hope no offence caused. If there's any Ozzies or Kiwis on the board, be included if you want, Singaporeans too - hell - the discussion is about countries that use an 'under-the-counter' system of getting things done as opposed to those that don't.
Poucolouco
08-10-08, 07:22
No geographical accuracy intended. I tend to use it in the sense of '1st world countries' but even then one would have to exclude Japan which is very different. It's a bit less long winded than saying UK, USA, Canada, most of Europe before the EU expanded' LOL. Most people seem to understand it, hence hope no offence caused. If there's any Ozzies or Kiwis on the board, be included if you want, Singaporeans too. Hell. The discussion is about countries that use an 'under-the-counter' system of getting things done as opposed to those that don't. Brasil is not a 3rd world country. In your case you might consider using the term "more developed countries. " Brasil no longer fits the term "under developed economy. " IMHO your under-the-counter reference should be revisited and updated.
Buttman Returns
08-10-08, 13:28
Jeitinho is the diminutive of jeito. Jeito meaning "way", hence basically it means is there a "little way" around this. In Brazil I think you need to go through all the ceremony and crap until the other party suggests the "little way " around the problem.
LOL
I grew up in a very similar culture before moving to "the West"... ;-) ... so I can certainly undertand the 'little way' concept... :-)
The article was very interesting as well, thanks for that!
I've also got some thoughts about staying to live in Brazil for a while after travelling (if I can find a job, that is); so it's always good to get these insights into life in Brazil.
Cheers,
BR
Orgasm Donor
08-10-08, 23:25
Once I was travelling through all of Latinamerica. I ended up in Miami. I had all my films developed. When I picked up the photos I discovered that they hadn't developed any of my nude pics. They even had cut of all the negatives with nude photos and kept them. That was many photos as it was a 15 months trip.
I got seriously pissed of and managed to find where the laboratory was located and headed there. After some wild discussions they finally made the manager to come to the laboratory (this was late evening) and open up a safe and give me back all the negatives. She said the reason they kept the negatives was because of federal laws. Of course there where no illegal photos, just a lot of bunda shots.
Back in 1990, I met a girl in Boise Idaho, and she used to work at a film developer. She told me stories about the manager making extra copies of customers nude pics for his "private collection".
I also remember her telling me they developed photos taken by a U.S. government official engaging in illicit acts with very, very young looking men in his vacation photos of Brasil. Just a dirty little secret they kept at the shop I guess.
1 hour developing doesnt give them much chance to leer at or copy your photos, but one time there was a cute girl at the developers and when I went to pick the photos up, she winked at me and said "looks like you had a nice vacation!"
Makes me appreciate the age of digital photography all the more!
It's interesting that people are still using non-digital cameras. I have to agree with Bubba Boy, the safest way is to upload to a server. I really don't take a lot of "those" types of pics, but don't want anyone looking at them if I did.
ryjer
Brasil is not a 3rd world country. In your case you might consider using the term "more developed countries. " Brasil no longer fits the term "under developed economy. " IMHO your under-the-counter reference should be revisited and updated.
By most definitions Brazil is still indeed classified as a "third world" country. While the last 5 years have been very good in Economic development, it still does not make up for 50 years of corruption and neglect. It is hard to argue that it is not when 25% of the population in the biggest cities live in Slums.
Poucolouco
08-11-08, 02:15
By most definitions Brazil is still indeed classified as a "third world" country. While the last 5 years have been very good in Economic development, it still does not make up for 50 years of corruption and neglect. It is hard to argue that it is not when 25% of the population in the biggest cities live in Slums.I stand corrected and I also agree with your reference "most definitions." It seems there are many definitions for Third World, some political, some geographical, and some economical. When I ran across this reference I was totally convinced, "Since taking office in 2003, Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva has crisscrossed developing regions of the world, such as Africa and South Asia, drumming up trade and promoting Third World unity."
Brasil is not a 3rd world country. In your case you might consider using the term "more developed countries. " Brasil no longer fits the term "under developed economy. " IMHO your under-the-counter reference should be revisited and updated.
I think you used the term 3rd world (and under-developed) country, not me. You seem intent on giving me a hard time on it. If you are Brasilian and anything I said offended you, my apologies. But please read what I said not what you think I said. I'm giving you that cos at least you spell it correctly (at least in your second post), unlike the Americanism used in GIG of 'Brazil.'
For what it's worth, several of my carioca friends have joked that Brasil is 'a third world country pretending to be a first world country.'
I don't think I personally ever use the term 3rd world, although I've used the term 'developing world'. In Brasil's case, this would be used at least be me as a compliment, as I consider the '1st world' countries of USA and UK to be in decline. The sense of future hope among Brasilians and the fact that the country really is developing in a very vibrant way is one of the things that attracts me to being there. It is part of the attitude of Brasilians that I personally find inspiring and humbling.
If you want to kick up for Brasil's corner I think you will find me at the front with you, not at the back.
Brasil is without a doubt a 3rd world country. As much of fun one can have here, living is actually very complicated.
Infrastructure is non existent or in very bad condition, bureaucracy and corruption starndard. Also protectionism is ridiculous, especially when there is no production to protect. This means that import taxes are high, but there is no local production for the products.
By all, Brasil needs to grow lot more and GDP must be spread more evenly than nos.
Photos – US.
I store my photos now on a server, I make sure I have nothing on my computer that is going to cause me the slightest problem while entering the US. You can rent storage space for $10 a month, just google a service. Is it just me or is the US violating more and more civil rights everyday?
You bet they are!
I am using www.rapidshare.com. Not the cheapest one but very fast and efficient.
Also deleting them by simply using windows recycle bin is not good enough. I am using TuneUp Utilities program for more sofisticated deletion of sensitive items.
You bet they are!
I am using www.rapidshare.com. Not the cheapest one but very fast and efficient.
Also deleting them by simply using windows recycle bin is not good enough. I am using TuneUp Utilities program for more sofisticated deletion of sensitive items.
Though I've never needed to do it, what about a web hosting site. These days you can get an unlimited amount of space if not a large amount. I looked at yahoo, and they only want $11.95 a month after the first 3 months. This might be a cheaper option. Just a suggestion to check into.
ryjer
Though I've never needed to do it, what about a web hosting site. These days you can get an unlimited amount of space if not a large amount. I looked at yahoo, and they only want $11.95 a month after the first 3 months. This might be a cheaper option. Just a suggestion to check into.
ryjerOr you could just email the photos to yourself. Yahoo has unlimited storage.
We're pretty athletic interested, members of this forum, are'nt we?
We care about the beautiful, well-trained bodies, correct? We run all day and night hunt for beautiful women, drink beer and look on sports, does'nt we?
Here some olympic news of today with some nice photos :-)
Cristine Santanna and Andrezza Martins, native Brazilians playing for Georgia at the Olympics, rallied to a three-set victory over Russia, advancing to the medal round and sending a proud message to their adopted and war-torn homeland.
The Georgian team rallied Wednesday from a sloppy 21-10 loss in the first set to win the next two, 22-20 and 15-12, and beat Alexandra Shiryaeva and Natalia Uryadova.
Although they made just a few short visits to the country to obtain their new passports, Santanna and Martins took on the nicknames Saka and Rtvelo — "Georgia," in Georgian — out of affection for the land that allowed them to qualify for the Olympics. © 2008 The Associated Press.
Photos, not mine, wish they where... :-)
We're pretty athletic interested, members of this forum, are'nt we?
We care about the beautiful, well-trained bodies, correct? We run all day and night hunt for beautiful women, drink beer and look on sports, does'nt we?
Here some olympic news of today with some nice photos :-)
I watched a beach volleyball game for a while. It was the Cuba team against an Anglo country. I almost ignored the game and only watched the bodies! It was semi-pornographic! I am sure this 'sport' was added ONLY to get more spectators and sell TV ads. Watch how many arena volleyball games they televise! LOL!
I almost ignored the game and only watched the bodies! It was semi-pornographic!
Yes it is nice to look at.
The norwegian team Nila and Ingrid are quite hot too. This national beach volleyball team have built a large training center including holiday homes on the lovely beach at Cumbuco, just outside Fortaleza CE.
i took a little peek in the colombia section.
tungurahua (the gentleman who wrote the most amusing reports of vm) has been busy in south-america.
being very found of statistics i got very impressed by his reports.
just look at this one:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=769302&postcount=1012
245 ladies on one trip. he's been very busy.
Thanks for that. It's whetted my appetite for Quito, especially as the gentleman has demonstrated not only your statistical thoroughness <g> but also a comparable knowledge of Rio. Nice one.
i took a little peek in the colombia section.
tungurahua (the gentleman who wrote the most amusing reports of vm) has been busy in south-america.
being very found of statistics i got very impressed by his reports.
just look at this one:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=769302&postcount=1012
245 ladies on one trip. he's been very busy.
try to read his quito reports. he is a legent there. and he stayed for much longer time
i took a little peek in the colombia section.
tungurahua (the gentleman who wrote the most amusing reports of vm) has been busy in south-america.
being very found of statistics i got very impressed by his reports.
just look at this one:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=769302&postcount=1012
245 ladies on one trip. he's been very busy.
not quite 245. but still, 45 is pretty impressive.
Not quite 245. But still, 45 is pretty impressive.
Actually 245.
Quito & Loja, Ecuador: 156 chicas, 360 sessions
Medellin & Bogota, Colombia: 50 chicas, 88 sessions
Rio de Janeiro & Belo Horizonte, Brazil: 17 chicas, 30 sessions
La Paz, Bolivia: 7 chicas, 9 sessions
Lima & Iquitos, Peru: 7 chicas, 7 sessions
Asuncion, Paraguay: 4 chicas, 5 sessions
Buenos Aires, Argentina: 4 chicas, 5 sessions
Total: 245 chicas, 504 sessions.
Sperto and BB,
While I can believe that there are some There is NO WAY that the Brazilian public education system is producing graduates with exceptional computer skills!!!!
While we all know that India is the capital of computer programming outsourcing, Brazil is emerging in this field.
I work with 3 teams of computer programmers, 1 in the US (on shore) and 2 offshore teams, one in India and one in Brazil. Brazil is emerging as a good alternative to India because their time zone is more like ours on the east coast of the US. My India team ends their day at about 10 AM daily but the Brazilians are with me all day and they have good computer skills.
There are companies setting up centers there to promote this business and take advantage of the low wages and good computer skills.
Up and Cummer
08-20-08, 12:16
I have a few questions about when I change dollars in Rio.
1. Is the lowest/best way to change Dollars to Real in Brazil to just use an American ATM/Debit card at a ATM in Rio and that way I pay a smaller percentage rate on the spread or conversion?( I assume it's 2% above the published 4% Interbank rate. )
2. Where is the best location/business name in Rio to change cash dollars to Real in Rio? (Maybe an address)
Also, what percentage conversion or margin rate for changing dollars to real at a money changer or bank? For example: A 6 or 8% charge?
I appreciate any advice on this.
Thanks In Advance
U&C
I have a few questions about when I change dollars in Rio.
1. Is the lowest/best way to change Dollars to Real in Brazil to just use an American ATM/Debit card at a ATM in Rio and that way I pay a smaller percentage rate on the spread or conversion?( I assume it's 2% above the published 4% Interbank rate. )
2. Where is the best location/business name in Rio to change cash dollars to Real in Rio? (Maybe an address)
Also, what percentage conversion or margin rate for changing dollars to real at a money changer or bank? For example: A 6 or 8% charge?
I appreciate any advice on this.
Thanks In Advance
U&C
You'll find stacks of advice (and different opinions) on this if you go back a bit on the forum.
fwiw - Cambios (money changers) are the easiest option. If you are changing a lot it's maybe worth checking several before deciding to see who has the best rate on that day.
Banks are a hassle in Brasil. If you are fairly new to Rio, it is probably hassle you can do without. Personally, I only use a bank if I want to make a large cash withdrawal on a credit card. Be prepared to fight your way through problems.
Your location will be a good indicator, but if you are staying in Copa, then the American Express office on the seafront (Atlantica) next to the Copacabana Palace hotel will feel welcoming, safe and reassuring. Their rates are usually pretty competitive.
I personally find withdrawing money on plastic from ATMs a convenient solution. It has the drawbacks of taking care when and where you do it for security sake, and also you need some foresight as the machines can run out unexpectedly. But it suits me. You'll find whole discussions on ATMs on the board, as you will about rates and so on.
Up and Cummer
08-22-08, 06:02
Thanks for the advice. Flying out of Houston tomorrow!! I guess since this is my first trip to Rio it will be a learning experience. Although I have a huge folder of information I copied from Brazil sites and also from info from ISG forum too. As always, you Brazil vets are much appreciated!
Thanks,
U&C
BTW: I actually have already reserved to rent a apartment (#302) from Gringo David. He actually had nicer apartments to offer than Ken( can't help but like this guy, Ken is a very nice guy). So I will see how it goes. Actually David has been very helpful and Professional in the search and transaction process. I will write a honest report when I get back on the apartment rental from David.
You'll find stacks of advice (and different opinions) on this if you go back a bit on the forum.
fwiw - Cambios (money changers) are the easiest option. If you are changing a lot it's maybe worth checking several before deciding to see who has the best rate on that day.
Banks are a hassle in Brasil. If you are fairly new to Rio, it is probably hassle you can do without. Personally, I only use a bank if I want to make a large cash withdrawal on a credit card. Be prepared to fight your way through problems.
Your location will be a good indicator, but if you are staying in Copa, then the American Express office on the seafront (Atlantica) next to the Copacabana Palace hotel will feel welcoming, safe and reassuring. Their rates are usually pretty competitive.
I personally find withdrawing money on plastic from ATMs a convenient solution. It has the drawbacks of taking care when and where you do it for security sake, and also you need some foresight as the machines can run out unexpectedly. But it suits me. You'll find whole discussions on ATMs on the board, as you will about rates and so on.
In Brazil, they grill their meat with a lot of salt. Garlic is also a major spice.
It's probably all the chemicals we put on our stuff too, I can tell a big difference in the food from the US and different parts of the world.
Buttman Returns
08-31-08, 12:39
In Brazil, they grill their meat with a lot of salt. Garlic is also a major spice.
Too much salt IMHO.
BTW, I don't think she was referring to food... ;-)
I was talking to someone from brazil and she was telling she misses eating meat from her country. She said she didnt like the meat from the usa, That it tasted funny. Anyone else notice the difference since I dont eat meat at all I cant give any insight.
If you're specifically talking about the meat in the US, then there are ways around it. There are two grocery stores near me that sell what is called, Brazilian Cut, or Tri-Tip. I don't think the meat is different, but the way it is cut. I hope this helps..........
ryjer
If you're specifically talking about the meat in the US, then there are ways around it. There are two grocery stores near me that sell what is called, Brazilian Cut, or Tri-Tip. I don't think the meat is different, but the way it is cut. I hope this helps..........
ryjerI have wondered about this as well. I have a theory that meat is lousy in the US due to regulations, high prices, and factory farming that make the meat less organic and more expensive. Due to high prices restaurants use lower quality meat and try to make up for this with seasoning. I have been to churrascarias in Brazil and the US. No comparison. Likewise I love Mexican food, even (or especially) the street tacos. I have been to Mexican restaurants in SoCal so close that I could see Mexico and their food was invariably lousy.
US meat is full of hormones. This is why it has been banned for import into Europe for a long time. Argentinian and Brazilian meat is much healthier ...
BB
I was talking to someone from brazil and she was telling she misses eating meat from her country. She said she didnt like the meat from the usa, That it tasted funny. Anyone else notice the difference since I dont eat meat at all I cant give any insight.
Growth stimulating hormones, steriods and antibiotics.
Is that the reason for my larger than average size "man muscle?''
ryjer
It really just shows you how fuked up the usa is with the meat they feed the people. Growth stimulating hormones, steriods and antibiotics. I dont know what chemicals brazil puts in their meat but if everyone stopped eating meat it would solve a lot of health, irregation and grain problems.
U.S. researchers have found that if you are veggie one day a week, so it zeros out climate emissions from all total transport that your food cause.
Skol and caipi is pure vegetarian food, is it not ?
Poucolouco
09-01-08, 16:23
Is that the reason for my larger than average size "man muscle?''
RyjerYour diet probably is heavy in brain food, cereals, fruits, fish and moderate alcohol.
The growth effect is migrating from your big head to your little head.
ChicoBarca
09-05-08, 15:54
Hi Guys,
One thing is the quality of the meat in both Europe and US. The other thing (and just as important in my opinion) is that the use less spices in S. A. They keep to the princip less is best. Like one said here. Salt and garlic. So what you tast is actually the meat.
I was talking to someone from brazil and she was telling
she misses eating meat from her country. She said she didnt like the meat from the usa, That it tasted funny. Anyone else notice the difference since I dont eat meat at all I cant give any insight.
Hi Guys,
One thing is the quality of the meat in both Europe and US. The other thing (and just as important in my opinion) is that the use less spices in S. A. They keep to the princip less is best. Like one said here. Salt and garlic. So what you tast is actually the meat.The preparation methods and seasoning, account for some of the difference, but the real diferences are:
Breed of cattle; mostly indian cattle in Brazil (bos indicus)and european in the US(bos taurus).
Feeding cattle; In Brazil is mostly by grazing on natural grass pastures and no hormones and unnecessary antibiotics are allowed to be used, in the US, feed lots with proteins, antibiotics, growth hormone and female hormone given to chemicaly castrate and fatten the male cattle. That is why heavy meat eaters in the US grow man boobs. Milk cows in the US are given bovine growth hormones to produce more milk and in consequence kids that drink this milk, grow a lot, but have weak joints and bones and generaly poor health.
Your diet probably is heavy in brain food, cereals, fruits, fish and moderate alcohol.
The growth effect is migrating from your big head to your little head.
While in the area, my diet consists of basically beer, wine, and various types of "poonany." Although I may have an occasional piece of chicken. Poonany for three meals a day, now that's what a growing boy needs.............
ryjer
I just noticed a $500 drop in airfares from the states to Brasil. While the ones I saw were showing around $2100, they have lowered to $1600. I'm hoping for it lower another $500 or so. It can't hurt that oil prices have been going down and the dolloar has made a slight comeback.
ryjer
I just noticed a $500 drop in airfares from the states to Brasil. While the ones I saw were showing around $2100, they have lowered to $1600. I'm hoping for it lower another $500 or so. It can't hurt that oil prices have been going down and the dolloar has made a slight comeback.
ryjer
Where are you flying from that the ticket prices are 2000?!!! Is this for NYE or Carnival? its still between 800-1200 here in NYC.
Where are you flying from that the ticket prices are 2000?!!! Is this for NYE or Carnival? its still between 800-1200 here in NYC.
dec 17 - jan 3 from detroit metro
I don't know how true this all is but a nice little article about Rio:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/south-america/when-my-baby-goes-to-rio/2008/09/10/1220857599860.html
Bossacucanova, Consolação : http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3TZSeAJGk
Zeca Baleiro, Telegrama : http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo-cqKGCUDE
Martinho da Vila, Disritmia : http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=ObU62GlC7mE&feature=related
Carlinhos Brown, Carlito marron : http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=JXZlrY8_W24
BB
Fla_FunMeister
09-24-08, 14:04
Can you get viagra in Brazil? Do you need a prescription?
Can you get viagra in Brazil? Do you need a prescription?
Yes, you can get viagra. No, you don't need any prescription.
Can you get viagra in Brazil? Do you need a prescription?Yes you can you can pick some up at many of the local farmacias around town.
The exchange rate is all over the map. I checked oanda.com one day, and it was 1. 6, then I checked it again, and it was 1. 91, and now its 1. 8. Did anyone actually get 1. 9. How the hell is the dollar doing better, if we have debt up to our eyeballs. Is the brazilian economy about to crash. Info and opinions please. Any chance we go back to 2. 50. I might have to find a way to scrounge up 2000, if that happens. Maybe I can get some easy credit again-NOT. LOL! I want to think capital one, hsbc, and washington mutual for the easy credit that allowed me to party in brazil for so long.
Tiradentes
09-25-08, 01:43
Can you get viagra in Brazil? Do you need a prescription?
Yes, you can !
Just go to any pharmacy and ask for it. The last time I check , it was 4 pills for R120 or something like this.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/soccer/09/25/brazilian.murdered/index.html?cnn=yes
Sad stuff
Can you get viagra in Brazil? Do you need a prescription?
I was sunbathing once in Copacabana and there was that beautifull girl giving away small leaflets to all the males.
Guess what. They were advertising discounts on viagra pills. A large chain of pharmacies all around Rio.
I called them and ordered through the phone and even paid them with my credit card. In about 20 minutes a moto guy brought them to my apartment.
So easy.
Looking For Eden
09-26-08, 08:12
Viagra is garbage i know someone who went blind using it. Its dangerous and it should ber outlawed. There are safe alternative choices that are just as good with zero side effects.
BULLSHIT!!!!! Such shit,lol. Viagra blows away Cialis. I don't want my dick popping up when I'm walking down the street 12 hours after I take the shit. Viagra works short term great. If
Looking For Eden
09-26-08, 08:14
Got cut off. If I'm having an all nighter then I take another one. There are some side effects like flushing in the face and indigestion but I have never met (or heard) anyone who went blind and call bullshit on your story sir.
Thanks friends...
Safebox, obvious answer, if the flat has. I agree.
Pacsafe looks good, but I leave soon and no time to plan to buy it.
But place as locked suitcase it seems to me not enough safe, cause it is the first place a thief will check.
Besides when a girl visits me, even with an overnighter I usually sleep with only one ear and one eye ;) I am afraid if someone could get into my flat, for example the owner with the second key when I am out in the city.
I had the same problem in Russia and I thought many solutions but never found a good one. For example last time I was in Ukraine, I hide money under washing machine, an old one model and very heavy that made me feel safe for all the time, the most, she was not in bathroom.
Another time I hide some cash in the bottom of the plastic basket of trash but, indeed, after many years of travelling I still not found a real good place where to hide money and atm cards inside a normal flat, for example when you dress light and you go to the beach. :(
[QUOTE= There are some side effects like flushing in the face and indigestion but I have never met (or heard) anyone who went blind and call bullshit on your story sir.[/QUOTE]Blurred vision can be a side effect. I have never heard of anyone going blind either.
Poucolouco
09-26-08, 10:19
Viagra is garbage I know someone who went blind using it. Its dangerous and it should ber outlawed. There are safe alternative choices that are just as good with zero side effects.
BULLSHIT!!!!! Such shit,lol. Viagra blows away Cialis. I don't want my dick popping up when I'm walking down the street 12 hours after I take the shit. Viagra works short term great. IfYour reaction is a bit harsh, LFE. There are documented side effects that can occur with persons with certain pre-existing conditions. Hearing loss and vision changes are among them.
See: http://www.rxlist.com/viagra-drug/article.htm#
Viagra is garbage i know someone who went blind using it. Its dangerous and it should ber outlawed. There are safe alternative choices that are just as good with zero side effects.
So when all of us go blind you will still have at least one eye left to guide us around LOL
Spinnerman
09-26-08, 18:56
So when all of us go blind you will still have at least one eye left to guide us around LOLViagra makes you go blind. Masturbation makes you go blind. Syphilis makes you go blind. I'm surprised anyone on this site can still see to post reports. (Can I take it till I just need glasses?)
It seems like Viagra is a big issue among the forum members.
It even has it's own section, under Special interests.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=272
Thanks to the Bunda-God I never needed these performance enhancers (yet).
I think a healthy lifestyle with lots of exercising, healthy food and a big dose of round chocolate-bundas keeps your junior vigorous.
I think a healthy lifestyle with lots of exercising, healthy food and a big dose of round chocolate-bundas keeps your junior vigorous.
OK, now you're just showing off. ;)
This weather sucks. Just arrived in Rio last night. Fighting off the end of a cold I picked up in Russia so played it cool last night. Sat at Espalunca (on Maria Quiteria) for a few hours and it was like "teen night". Cripes - what's the drinking age here?
Partially cloudy today so we'll see what the beach has to offer. Might need to go to L'oumo or Solarium for a good steam!
This weather sucks. Just arrived in Rio last night.Partially cloudy today so we'll see what the beach has to offer. Might need to go to L'oumo or Solarium for a good steam!I'd still rather be where you are than sitting behind a desk. Best to you!!
I spent 11 days between Rio and Sao Paulo from Sept. 14 to Sept. 25. I flew into sp, and reserved a flight from the local airport in sp to the local airport in rio. If you use gol airlines, they have a free shuttle from the int. airport to the local airport leaving every hour on the half hour.
In Rio, I stayed at the rio roiss hotel. Not sure about the bed bugs another poster wrote about, but the hotel was adequate for me and my buddy. The hotel is not 4 star or even close but I got the rooms for about $80usd a night. The room was clean, the only problem I had was the shower. It did give hot water, but you had to wait about 2 minutes before you could feel the hot water. The hotel could use a upgrade, but like I said, it was adequate for me.
Took the metro which is convient to the hotel. With the new station open, it is about a 4 block walk from the hotel. You can now buy multi trip cards which comes in increments of r$5.00 or r$10.00, or a single ticket r$2.60 At least we didn´t have to walk to the station near luomo like we did before.
In Sao Paulo, we stayed at the Estanplaza Paulista. This hotel is in a great location. Two blocks from ave. paulista, and two blocks from the metro. Many restaurants and shops around. The nightly rate I got was $ 105.00usd but fortunately, I used points to pay for it. Rooms clean, shower, especially the hot water was perfect. Only negative, the pool. It is shallow and cold. This trip, I didn´t use the metro, so not sure if it´s the same price as rio or not.
Almost forgot, this hotel has free internet connection, the only problem was they only had one computer. Depending on the time you try and use it, it might be used by someone else.
Does anyone know what happened to Cervantes? We went twice but both times it was closed. Not sure if it was because of the rain, vacation or closed for good. I will be adding the t/r in the appropriate forums.
Does anyone know what happened to Cervantes? We went twice but both times it was closed. Not sure if it was because of the rain, vacation or closed for good. I will be adding the t/r in the appropriate forums.I was there in August, went for a late night bite to eat. For some reason I couldn't find the place until I asked some who said it was under renovations, he didn't know when it was to re-open.
4 blocks to the metro from Rio Roiss hotel? I thought it was directly across the street.
Poucolouco
09-28-08, 05:00
4 blocks to the metro from Rio Roiss hotel? I thought it was directly across the street.Rio Roiss is at Rua Aires Saldanha, 48. One block North West of Avenida Atlantica and four blocks from the Barata Ribiero entrance to Metro Cantagalo.
Bravo,
Directly across the street from the hotel is the hotel orthon palace. I think you maybe thinking about the Atlantico, the one across the street from luomo's.
By the way, to get to the metro from Rio Roiss. Once out the door, turn left to the corner, then another left. Go straight, need to cross ns coppacabana, another block or so and you should see the sign for the metro. When you get down the stairs the walk is long and that is why I said it's about 4 blocks.
Is the office back open in copa?
Jamaicanceo
09-28-08, 22:30
Its a proven some people had strokes from viagra then it led to blindness. Its a proven fact people have died from heart attacks using viagra. Its your life so gamble with it all you want. Of course not every last person will die using vigarbage but some people will die.People have heart attacks and died from just sex without viagra. Side-effects is an individual experience. And if ones dick gets hard while walking down the street, then find a garota until it softens. LOL!
Is the office back open in copa?
From what I've heard, this place was closed. I even saw an advertisement for its' sale. I also think you're the first person to mention this place in quite a while. Here's the web link.
http://theoffice-sportsbar-restaurant-brasil.com/_wsn/page9.html
good luck...............
ryjer
Poucolouco
09-28-08, 23:49
Is the office back open in copa?Yes, it was on the market last winter. They closed in February and did some minimal remodelling. It reopened in May.
Based on what I saw recently (2 weeks ago) the office as you know it was not there. There was some kind of bar/restaurant there under a different name. I was just walking by and in a rush, so I didn't check any further than that.
Thanks for the info.
Mncpa1
I'm just back from Cambodia, which has ok mongering, but one of the main things for me was realising what it is I love about Brasilians and Brasil so much.
Cambodia is a country that has had its spirit crushed, its light extinguished beyond hope. Repeatedly, brutally, horrifically. In Brasil, in contrast, I think people have perhaps the strongest spirit (nationally) I have come across anywhere. A passion for life, a passion filled with hope for a better future. For me, those two countries are like two extremes.
(If you ask where western civilisations figure in all this, jokes about people talking to their mobile phones instead of each other aside, I think the passsion for life has been subsumed into a passion for material success - and always, of course, within the limits set by the ruling parties and the media.) In Brasil, the strength of the human spirit is very strong - who knows where it will lead? But I personally feel more alive in Brasil than anywhere else in the world.
I think the garotas are awesome, but plenty of places have awesome women. I'm intrigued by the rising prices putting off those who will simply find their PDP elsewhere (people in that camp who sincerely think no-one would go to RJ for anything except the garotas). And of the cities in Brasil I've visited, I find Rio the most vibrant, the most beautiful, the most varied. Sydney, Hong Kong, Singapore, San Francisco - all have the experience of being visually overpowering when enjoyed properly (and all except SF have good P4P facilites). But it is the Brasilians that make Rio so wonderful :-)
I'm just back from Cambodia, which has ok mongering, but one of the main things for me was realising what it is I love about Brasilians and Brasil so much.
Cambodia is a country that has had its spirit crushed, its light extinguished beyond hope. Repeatedly, brutally, horrifically. In Brasil, in contrast, I think people have perhaps the strongest spirit (nationally) I have come across anywhere. A passion for life, a passion filled with hope for a better future. For me, those two countries are like two extremes.
(If you ask where western civilisations figure in all this, jokes about people talking to their mobile phones instead of each other aside, I think the passsion for life has been subsumed into a passion for material success - and always, of course, within the limits set by the ruling parties and the media.) In Brasil, the strength of the human spirit is very strong - who knows where it will lead? But I personally feel more alive in Brasil than anywhere else in the world.
I think the garotas are awesome, but plenty of places have awesome women. I'm intrigued by the rising prices putting off those who will simply find their PDP elsewhere (people in that camp who sincerely think no-one would go to RJ for anything except the garotas). And of the cities in Brasil I've visited, I find Rio the most vibrant, the most beautiful, the most varied. Sydney, Hong Kong, Singapore, San Francisco - all have the experience of being visually overpowering when enjoyed properly (and all except SF have good P4P facilites). But it is the Brasilians that make Rio so wonderful :-)
What a philosopher you are!
Very-very nice. I totally agree with you. That's why I spend so much time there every year.
El Greco
Gentlemen!
The brasilian banks went on strike. Can't say how long this time, but may last a while.
I have no idea how long we can get cash from ATM.
P
Gentlemen!
The brasilian banks went on strike. Can't say how long this time, but may last a while.
I have no idea how long we can get cash from ATM.
P
Is it nationwide or just Brasilia? ATMs will run out, but you can get cash on a credit card from a cambio unless they do something to stop that?
Probably time to get what you need and put it in the 'biscuit tin' anyway . . .
But it is the Brasilians that make Rio so wonderful :-)
I don't know how you guys who've lived in Brasil for a while are NOT tired of all the bullshit, lying and malicious plots that brasileiros/brasileiras use to try to manipulate gringos and to scam a living off their fellow countrymen.
I personally find that brasilians are some of the most untrustworthy and petty people on earth.
Gentlemen!
The brasilian banks went on strike. Can't say how long this time, but may last a while.
I have no idea how long we can get cash from ATM.
P
From what I understood from an article in O Globo, the strike is not country wide. It is concentrated in a few major cities, notably, Rio, Sao Paulo, Brasilia, Salvador, and Sao Luis (This is not a major city but is it reported as being hit by the strike.). Several other cities were hit by a 24 hour walk-out by bank workers.
This dispute is over wages, caused by the high inflation rate over the past year. Workers want a 13% increase in wages. Management is offering only a 7.5% increase.
The strike is for an indefinite period of time. However, my Brazilian friends tell me that the economy for ordinary people (non-wealthy) has been deteriorating. Few bank workers have the savings to live through a long strike. Nor do I believe that Brazilian unions have the foresight to collect and invest dues for strike pay in this very type of situation, the way American unions did. I cannot see this work stoppage lasting for more than a week.
Good news for everybody who liked the movie "Tropa de Elite", there will be a "Tropa de Elite 2". :)
Very-very nice. I totally agree with you. That's why I spend so much time there every year.
El Greco
I know there's a lot of people who think like Prosal. But also a good number that think the way I do, and I felt like putting it into words. Thanks for your comments.
I think it's a very different game to living in the US or or Europe. Maybe I'm fed up with the BS in the 'developed' world. I also find the disparity of views on whether Rio is relatively 'safe' or whether it is the city of murderous statistics, though with different groups on either side.
Which leads me to
Good news for everybody who liked . . . "Tropa de Elite", there will be a "Tropa de Elite 2". :)
Presumably to clean up Tropa de Elite 1? <vbg>
Oh, you mean the movie . . . ;-)
I don't like banks. At least the ones remotely affected by the current situation. On the other hand, no-one in their right mind can like Brasilian banks <g>
Mr Enternational
10-01-08, 22:50
Is the office back open in copa?
It was open last week. Or at least there was a lighted sign that was on at night.
Gentlemen!
The brasilian banks went on strike. Can't say how long this time, but may last a while.
I have no idea how long we can get cash from ATM.
P
The strike is over...
Shortest strike I've seen. In Brasil..
Sunset Strip
10-04-08, 01:02
I have 4 days available to spend in Rio and was wondering what your impressions are of doing so. Some friends have expressed shock at my desire to spend 4 days in such a far away place and spend "so much" money.
But my thinking is that I enjoy Rio and can only get away once more before Carnaval and only for 4 days. Plus, domestic travel is relatively expensive, too. So why not go to Rio.
Would you guys do it? Give me some inspiration so I can go ahead and buy the ticket. Thanks.
TJ
Would you guys do it? Give me some inspiration so I can go ahead and buy the ticket. Thanks.
TJGlobal economy be damned!!! Get your ass on that plane!
i have 4 days available to spend in rio and was wondering what your impressions are of doing so. some friends have expressed shock at my desire to spend 4 days in such a far away place and spend "so much" money.
but my thinking is that i enjoy rio and can only get away once more before carnaval and only for 4 days. plus, domestic travel is relatively expensive, too. so why not go to rio.
would you guys do it? give me some inspiration so i can go ahead and buy the ticket. thanks.
tj
i would say definately do it.
4 days is a good amount of time to be in such a fun destination.
once i flew from ny to rio to miami to paris to nice france to amsterdam with a buddy of mine open ticket all first class, we screwed ourselves through every city. i can remember my friend on our last leg of the trip from amsterdam to ny sitting in first class sticking a toast in his mouth topped with beluga caviar/onions/chopped egg, washing it down with dom perigon telling me when we land he has to go to the unemployment office to sign and no one there would ever believe where he has just been. we spent one day in rio and till this day it was one of the best days i have ever spent in rio in my entire life.
in addition to this i have spent many long weekends in rio through the years, left ny on a thursday night and left rio on a monday night going straight to work tuesday morning, countless times. these were great weekends, ill always remember.
so 4 days on the ground sounds pretty good. plus i don't think you burn the candle at both ends like i do, from reading your posts from previous trips, you do a few stops at miami peep, go down town centro hit a termas or 2 and then hit a kilo place for eats. very simple and very doable, go for it man, why not? if you got 4 days and you got the money, just do it.
But my thinking is that I enjoy Rio and can only get away once more before Carnaval and only for 4 days.... So why not go to Rio....Would you guys do it?
TJ
Sure. 4 days is better than 0 days.
Go for it TJ. Life is too short to waste it in what ifs and worrying about so called friends think about it. I would fly to Rio even for 1 day as Rio is a truly unique place.
I have 4 days available to spend in Rio and was wondering what your impressions are of doing so. Some friends have expressed shock at my desire to spend 4 days in such a far away place and spend "so much" money.
But my thinking is that I enjoy Rio and can only get away once more before Carnaval and only for 4 days. Plus, domestic travel is relatively expensive, too. So why not go to Rio.
Would you guys do it? Give me some inspiration so I can go ahead and buy the ticket. Thanks.
TJ
I have RTFF and I have read various sources on the internet. What is the easiest way for an American citizen to get a visa to Brazil while residing abroad I currently live in the Philippines?
Prosal mentioned, in the Rio section, that brazilians are status-conscious people. That's true, and sometimes it shows in very funny manners.
When I went to Rio Branco in Acre this status-consciousness was just to much. In the evening outside the clubs alll the guys really wanted to show off in front of the girls.
Big brand new pick-up cars with giant loudspeakers on the back. All the guys were wearing cowboy-hats, cowboy boots with hig heels, jeans, belts with oversized buckles, Ray-Bans, mobile phones very visible and the car keys sticking out of the pockets.
When drinking beer they made sure to show off the big quantity of empty bottles on the table. A bottle with Johnnie Walker Red Label standing on the table like a trophy.
I have 4 days available to spend in Rio and was wondering what your impressions are of doing so. Some friends have expressed shock at my desire to spend 4 days in such a far away place and spend "so much" money.
But my thinking is that I enjoy Rio and can only get away once more before Carnaval and only for 4 days. Plus, domestic travel is relatively expensive, too. So why not go to Rio.
Would you guys do it? Give me some inspiration so I can go ahead and buy the ticket. Thanks.
TJ
Here are some inspirations.. as nike says just do it.... if the economy is what you are looking for go to Sperto's guide (aka the President of Brazil Bunda) and follow the yellow brick road to the Bunda... please send pictures back...
Below are 3 inspirations that will make you come back..
Rita
Julia
Alyne - This one was taken off her orkut page. I have to find my others of her.
Ace
Albert Punter
10-04-08, 15:51
Don't bother about friends: take that damned flight to RJ !
Maybe they are just envious for the opportunity you will enjoy.
Just to motivate you more, in recent days Real dropped comprared to US$ (currently US$ = BRL 2,1), and this will make your stay, and your mongering, even cheaper.
I have RTFF and I have read various sources on the internet. What is the easiest way for an American citizen to get a visa to Brazil while residing abroad I currently live in the Philippines?
The only thing I can think of is to use a visa service like www.zvs.com . You would send your picture, application, passport to them in the mail or UPS or something that is reliable in the Philippines and they would process the paperwork for you in the appropriate Brazilian Consulate. They would then send everything back to you using the same type of reliable insured overnight provider. You might even try to email zvs.com and get their advice as I'm sure they have done this before or email a Brazilian consulate.
Exec Talent
10-04-08, 17:18
The only thing I can think of is to use a visa service like www.zvs.com . You would send your picture, application, passport to them in the mail or UPS or something that is reliable in the Philippines and they would process the paperwork for you in the appropriate Brazilian Consulate. They would then send everything back to you using the same type of reliable insured overnight provider. You might even try to email zvs.com and get their advice as I'm sure they have done this before or email a Brazilian consulate.
I have used www.g3visas.com with excellent results. I think ZVS went out of business about five years ago. Kidding, I'm kidding! Good advice SB/RB.
Sunset Strip
10-04-08, 18:47
thanks guys,
tj will be on the ground for four days in late november-early december. as bob says look for reports from centro thermas and miami peep show. those pictures by acenva were inspiring, indeed. and yes, the dollar is rebounding, which will help. but as sprite13, david68, lorenzo imply, rio is too fun of a place to worry about unnecessary bs in the real world.
ticket bought, seats assigned!
tj
Chi Town Hustler
10-04-08, 19:49
I will be in Rio next week does anyone know where can I go watch major league baseball?
I will be in Rio next week does anyone know where can I go watch major league baseball?
Any big hotel with lots of cable channels I guess.
ps. What's baseball?
Is Help now closed?
Yes.
It opens at 11 PM, in 6 hours and 20 minutes. :D
Yes.
It opens at 11 PM, in 6 hours and 20 minutes. :D
LOL!!! I was gonna say the same thing. Help is still in business until further notice!!!!!!!
I will be in Rio next week does anyone know where can I go watch major league baseball?
I've watched the NL championship series last year at the TV in the lounge of L'uomo, eating from their buffet, having a caipi in my hand, and a hottie sitting next to me, with her hands and lips all over me. Funny thing, though, I can't remember any plays from that game :D.
Chi Town Hustler
10-05-08, 02:33
[QUOTE=Christopherd]Any big hotel with lots of cable channels I guess.
ps. What's baseball?
A game played with a bat and ball by two opposing teams of nine players, each team playing alternately in the field and at bat, the players at bat having to run a course of four bases laid out in a diamond pattern in order to score.
Chi Town Hustler
10-05-08, 02:43
I've watched the NL championship series last year at the TV in the lounge of L'uomo, eating from their buffet, having a caipi in my hand, and a hottie sitting next to me, with her hands and lips all over me. Funny thing, though, I can't remember any plays from that game :D.
LOL....Thank's
ps. What's baseball?
Ummmm, that'd be like cricket, with only a few differences. Most important: it takes about 4 hours, not 4 days; in the end somebody actually always wins; nobody is forced to wear the preppy-geeky sweaters; somebody somewhere in the stadium occasionally plays the organ ("da da da Da da DAHHH"), and everybody jumps up and yells "charge"; people stretch after 7 innings and sing a silly song; nobody brings a picnic basket; beer is consumed from plastic cups ... but otherwise kinda the same idea.
Chi Town Hustler
10-05-08, 14:03
Ummmm, that'd be like cricket, with only a few differences. Most important: it takes about 4 hours, not 4 days; in the end somebody actually always wins; nobody is forced to wear the preppy-geeky sweaters; somebody somewhere in the stadium occasionally plays the organ ("da da da Da da DAHHH"), and everybody jumps up and yells "charge"; people stretch after 7 innings and sing a silly song; nobody brings a picnic basket; beer is consumed from plastic cups ... but otherwise kinda the same idea.
Yes its a little like cricket but now they sell the beer in plastic bottles.
When drinking beer they made sure to show off the big quantity of empty bottles on the table. A bottle with Johnnie Walker Red Label standing on the table like a trophy.
In many bars its normal that waiters/waitressess don't remove empty bottles. That is how they and customers count what has been consumed.
Normal practice. Not a show off.
In many bars its normal that waiters/waitressess don't remove empty bottles. That is how they and customers count what has been consumed.
Normal practice. Not a show off.
Really? Thank you for that information, Perkele, I had never figured that out myself. :)
In the bar mentioned all drinks were paid with fichas/tickets bought in forehand. The only purpose for not removing the bottles were to show off.
Funny, why do I bother to explain this?
This video is just hilarious!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKj4hUicwnM
Albert Punter
10-05-08, 20:40
because you are (e)sperto ;-)
...
Funny, why do I bother to explain this?
Infanticide
10-09-08, 07:28
http://www.karlamodels.com.br/
The girls there look hot, but I ran the site through google translate and can't for the life of me figure out their asking price.
Can anyone shed some light on this for me?
http://www.karlamodels.com.br/
The girls there look hot, but I ran the site through google translate and can't for the life of me figure out their asking price.
Can anyone shed some light on this for me?
They'll usually speak a little English on the phone - remember they will probably want to hit you for taxi fares on top so watch out if it's a dupla.
But in case it helps . . . (Written as it sounds, with actual spelling in brackets. The word for 100 mutates in a compound number):
Sem 100 (Cem)
Duz sentos 200 (duzentos)
Trez sentos 300 (trezentos)
Numbers in between are added afterwards eg
sento-sinquenta 150 (cento e cinquenta)
Duz sentos oitenta 208 (duzentos e oitenta)
I did find the most polite and charming translation on another ISG board the other day for "rtff" which I'd like to share:
Basically, Many newcomers may not be aware of the search function on the Board. Just click on search on the ISG toolbar, add your keyword (eg 'Karla') and highlight 'reports' instead of the default 'threads'. Scroll down and you'll see the price for Karlas :)
Poucolouco
10-09-08, 20:34
http://www.karlamodels.com.br/
The girls there look hot, but I ran the site through google translate and can't for the life of me figure out their asking price.
Can anyone shed some light on this for me?Try ScortShow, same owner, same phone numbers, same garotas. Price is posted on the left side of the page, R$100 - 2 hours.
http://www.scortshow.net/principal.html
Buttman Returns
10-10-08, 15:33
Try ScortShow, same owner, same phone numbers, same garotas. Price is posted on the left side of the page, R$100 - 2 hours.
http://www.scortshow.net/principal.html
Seems like good value, but where abouts is it???
Poucolouco
10-10-08, 17:56
Seems like good value, but where abouts is it???These are Rio de Janeiro escort services. They do outcall to your hotel, apartment, motel.
This video is just hilarious!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKj4hUicwnM
AHAHAHAHAH. Thanks for posting this!
Awesome video!:D
AHAHAHAHAH. Thanks for posting this!
Awesome video!:D
I love this video. The old guy is really safado.
His face, voice, gestures etc is so great.
http://www.karlamodels.com.br/
The girls there look hot, but I ran the site through google translate and can't for the life of me figure out their asking price.
Can anyone shed some light on this for me?
Used to be 100 Reais for two hours.
Once in Rio buy the "O Globo" newspaper on a week day. They advertise showing their asking price.
Once you set an appoitment tell them to send the girl with their book so you can see the faces of all the other girls too.
I love this video. The old guy is really safado.
His face, voice, gestures etc is so great.
Yes he is big time! But he is also hilarious!
One of the funniest videos I have seen on Youtube!:D
Ŝou professional do sequesu! ahahahahahah
Jose Sanchez
10-13-08, 06:00
How much does a visa cost now?
I see on the consulate website two prices: $130 and $190.
What is it?
Poucolouco
10-13-08, 16:21
How much does a visa cost now?
I see on the consulate website two prices: $130 and $190.
What is it?You did not state which Consulate you are looking at. The visa fees vary by Consulate, they include a Visa processing fee of $40, $60, $70, $100, or $200, depending on the type of visa (e.g. tourist, business, work, etc.) Read the web site carefully for your country of origin and the type of visa for which you are applying.
Additionally US citizens must pay $130.00 non-refundable processing fee per visa in reciprocity for an identical fee charged Brazilian citizens applying for a US visa.
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With all due respect, I would very much appreciate it if you didn't use my forum to solicit information about my competitor's websites.
Thanks,
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Poucolouco
10-20-08, 00:23
alta vista wont cut it since its only english to standard port. is there any sites with english to brazilain port.See the Portuguese Language thread:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=792530&postcount=643
alta vista wont cut it since its only english to standard port. is there any sites with english to brazilain port.
I'm not sure if it's Brazilian Porto, but i gets the job done for me.
I use www.imtranslator.com
Do they celebrate Halloween in Rio?
Do the girls get all dress up for at Help?
Notícias de uma Guerra Particular is a documentary about the battle between the favelas' drug dealers and Rio de Janeiro's police. Very interesting. Download it or watch it at Youtube (7 parts).
Halloween there is called Dias das Bruxas, unknown if they dress up at Help.
Halloween there is called Dias das Bruxas, unknown if they dress up at Help.Thanks Ee2002
Do they celebrate Halloween in Rio?
Do the girls get all dress up for at Help?
Halloween there is called Dias das Bruxas, unknown if they dress up at Help.
No, and don't expect anything like in the US: no trick or treaters, no decorations no Haunted houses nor people in costume.
if you want to see people in costume, come during Carnaval.
I few years ago I was in Rio during Oct 31. I only found some clubs in Sao Paulo having a Halloween Party. It was just another day in Help.
Halloween is an Anglo Saxon Celebration, of Celtic origin. (Nothing Brazilian about it.) It's starting to catch on slowly in Brazil. Brazilians who have lived in the US, are bringing it back with them.
This year:
Solarium is having a School Girl Nite on Oct 28. I'm assuming the GDP's will be dressed as school girls. They've done this promotion during other times of the year.
Swing Club Mistura Certa is having a nightly costume party on Oct 28-31.
... Halloween is an Anglo Saxon Celebration, of Celtic origin. (Nothing Brazilian about it.) It's starting to catch on slowly in Brazil. Brazilians who have lived in the US, are bringing it back with them ...
Well Halloween may not be big in Brasil, but it goes BIG in Colombia, which isn't so Celtic :)
Over the past few years, Halloween has been getting bigger and bigger in Brasil thanks to the media but also to the Brasilians who have lived in Angl-Saxon countries who are also bringing it here. A couple of years ago, I was in Brasilia at around that time and there were some hip and chick clubs who were having an Halloween themed night. I will ask my friends and contacts in Brasil to see if its gotten bigger now.
A Brazilian friend thought it very strange that Americans would disguise their children and send them door to door begging for food.
Do they celebrate Halloween in Rio?
Do the girls get all dress up for at Help?
Yes, they have Halloween partyn, Dia das Bruxas. Private ones and also at the clubs.
Help have Dia das Bruxas every night all Year (except on Christmas Eve).
Poucolouco
10-25-08, 18:28
A Brazilian friend thought it very strange that Americans would disguise their children and send them door to door begging for food.You need to clear that up for your friend. The kiddies don't beg for food. They threaten residents to either give them candy or bad shit will come to them. :)
Fellow hunters!
I found the following list of websites related to our hobby on a German Website. (www.lustscout.to) So French is not the only foreign tongue we should know after all ;-).
In another developement, I went again on the riosexsite and was -- positively -- surprised by the quality of the pictured girls. Is just me growing older or are they really making great progress with Photoshop?
Good hunt everybody
Henry
Escort Rio de Janeiro
http://www.karlamodels.net/principal.html
http://www.scortshow.net/principal.html
http://www.ciaplus.com/
http://www.hotside.com.br/hotside.htm
http://www.destack.com.br/modelos1_z_a.htm
http://www.contatos.com.br/acompanha...Janeiro&tipo=1
http://www.escortgirl.com.br/index2.htm
http://www.40graus.net/principal.htm
http://www.newscort.com/
http://www.riofantasy.net/
http://www.malumodels.com/principal.html
http://www.agbarravips.com.br/
http://www.escortinrio.com/
http://www.amantesecia.com.br/principal.htm
http://www.executivoclub.com/html/ci...20de%20Janeiro
http://www.chantily.com.br/estadosfree/riodejaneiro.htm
http://www.prazertotal.com/final/index.htm
http://www.utopiasex.com.br/principal.htm
http://www.riorelax.com.br/mulheres.asp
http://www.riosexsite.net/index_fram...=garotacarioca (Firefox verwenden!)
http://www.belprazer.com/
http://www.nitgatas.com.br/index1.asp
http://www.clube69.com.br/
http://www.milfaces.com/ensaios/Principal.htm
http://www.cassiascort.com/
http://sabrina-ferrari.rare-escort.com/
http://www.megaclassrj.com/
http://www.aldeiario.com/modelos.htm
http://www.abusado.com.br/acompbr.php?cidade=49
http://www.ayanneriomodels.com/index2.htm
http://www.acompanhantesbrasil.com.b.../index_off.asp
http://www.bonecaluciana.com/
http://www.eliterj.com/principal.htm
http://www.viprj.com.br/index1.php
http://www.sensualidade.com/mulheres.htm
http://www.premieresex.com.br/riodejaneiro.html
http://niveltopsex.com/modelos.html
http://www.desejoeloucura.com/index2.html
Termas/Massagen in Rio
http://www.termasrioantigo.com.br/
http://www.luomo.com.br/principal.htm
http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/
http://www.quatroporquatro.com.br/
http://www.solarium.com.br/
http://www.termas65.com.br/
http://www.ancoradorecreio.com.br/principal1.asp
http://www.destack.com.br/massagem_a_z.htm
http://www.clubcancun.com.br/
Rio Nightclubs
http://www.cafe400.com.br/
http://www.discoteca-help.com/
Kontaktseiten mit Brasilianerinnen
http://www.parperfeito.com.br/
http://www.brasileiras.de/
http://www.ich-liebe-brasilien.de/
http://www2.latineuro.com/browse.php?cat=brazil&page=1
http://www.rededosexo.com.br/sitered.../principal.php
Brasi-Models zum Spannern
Brasilianische Hurenforen
http://www.gpguia.net/
http://forum.hotside.com.br/
Allgemeine Infos über Sex in Brasilien
http://brazil.**********.com/
http://www.aforum.com/cgi-bin/forum?...e90^0@.ee6f0c5
http://ipanema.com/rio/nite/e/home.htm
http://www.gringoguides.com/rio-sex.shtml
Girlfriendly Hotel in Rio
http://www.praialidohotel.com.br/
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Gents,
I tried to search for recent info about the fun in Campinas, but to no avail. If anyone has any recent info about this city, I would be apprreciative. I know that it is not far to Sao Paulo, but if possible would like to stay local.
TIA
Sky
Did something happen with the www.gpguia.net website? The past few times I've tried to check it, I get a forbidden access message. I can't imagine it's my computer. Maybe it's some weird cookies setting.
ryjer
Poucolouco
11-07-08, 12:34
Did something happen with the www.gpguia.net website? The past few times I've tried to check it, I get a forbidden access message. I can't imagine it's my computer. Maybe it's some weird cookies setting. ryjer
The site still works but some of the links have changed. You probably have saved a link to the Rio page. Just go to the main page and find your spot, then save the new link. Have I made myself perfectly unclear? Hope not.
Works fine for me as well
Sui Generis
11-07-08, 18:34
Did something happen with the www.gpguia.net website? The past few times I've tried to check it, I get a forbidden access message. I can't imagine it's my computer. Maybe it's some weird cookies setting.
ryjer
The problem with GP Guia is that hackers hacked the site. In order to protect the site it is block to most people outside Brazil. I think it will remain that way.
You need a special code to gain access if your outside Brazill. Unfortunatly, don´t asked me to reveal the code...
I guess that you must be a regular member (poster) of the site to obtain that privilege. As I am currently in Brazil, they gave me (via PM) a secret code to gain access when I will be back in Canada. That´s all I can say for the moment.
The problem with GP Guia is that hackers hacked the site. In order to protect the site it is block to most people outside Brazil. I think it will remain that way.
You need a special code to gain access if your outside Brazill. Unfortunatly, don´t asked me to reveal the code...
I guess that you must be a regular member (poster) of the site to obtain that privilege. As I am currently in Brazil, they gave me (via PM) a secret code to gain access when I will be back in Canada. That´s all I can say for the moment.
DAMN!! That sucks!! Thats my favorite site to see personal reviews on the GDPs. Hotforum is decent but it isnt as good as GPGUIA.
The problem with GP Guia is that hackers hacked the site. In order to protect the site it is block to most people outside Brazil. I think it will remain that way.
You need a special code to gain access if your outside Brazill. Unfortunatly, don´t asked me to reveal the code...
I guess that you must be a regular member (poster) of the site to obtain that privilege. As I am currently in Brazil, they gave me (via PM) a secret code to gain access when I will be back in Canada. That´s all I can say for the moment.
Thanks for the info. It just stopped working all of a sudden one day. Oh well...
ryjer
OK. My buddy got a small cut on the shaft of his penis from oral sex.
What should he do?
Hi guys,
Can you still pay in US dollars at the major termas, loumo, MC, solarium, and get a reasonable exchange rate.
Thanks in advance,
Chris
Hi guys,
Can you still pay in US dollars at the major termas, loumo, MC, solarium, and get a reasonable exchange rate.
Thanks in advance,
ChrisYes I was at MC a few nights ago. You can pay in USD but you won't get top rate. For example, my bill was 273BR or 140US. That comes out to 1.95 for the exchange rate. (I always pay in reais anyway; I always try to get the best exchange whether its ATM or cambio)
The termas' offer this as convenience but the rate is below the official exchange.
Poucolouco
11-11-08, 12:32
OK. My buddy got a small cut on the shaft of his penis from oral sex.
What should he do?
Thoroughly wash it twice daily with Dermacyd genital soap and keep your buddy in you pants until he heals.
Ok. Buddy is going on day 3 and on the verge of insanity. This seriously cannot be happening. Its damn hard not gettin hard and bustin a nut while here in Rio. So, hand jobs and boob glides should be ok, right? I didn't think I would be using my hand while here, but I am even contemplating a dupla with a strap-on. Can someone tell me how to ask for the girls from an agency to bring toys, mainly a strap-on?
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