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Joinem
09-26-07, 23:32
Np problems my friend - ENJOY.Wow! Sometimes a picture is worth much MORE than 1000 words!

Epica
09-27-07, 01:16
Hi everyone!

I can't talk Chinese and never went to BBS before.

Do you know any good one near the Xujiahui district where no talking is required?

Or a good establishment in that area to meet girls the usual way without paying too much for the drinks?

Thanks for all the tips, this forum is great!

Playsafe
09-27-07, 04:18
Np problems my friend - ENJOY.These are some of best pix I haven't seen for a while, both the girls & the creativity.

Thanks

Blacklisted
09-27-07, 05:44
Very good effort, don't have the answers to your questions, but very informative. Kudos to a job well done, and helping out those novice mongerers.

Read your Shanghai report in absolute amazement. You know about this stuff but do it anyway? And prepared to lose 1700 kuai???

Do you have any idea what you could have had for that kind of money if you had spent a few hours reading through this forum?

Anyway, you call yourself stupid, and far be it for me to disagree. A fool and their money, etc.

You seem like a nice guy, and you are certainly a lucky one. Unfortunately, it's this type of thing that keeps these fuckers in business.

For every good establishment that this forum ruins, it also serves a great purpose in raising people's awareness about these types of situations.

My advice to anyone interested: Do some research, make some postings to prove you know your shit, gather a couple of like minded buddies on the forum before you even arrive and monger together - in the right places!

Seems like common sense, but seriously, had you have done so, here's just one example: you could have spent an afternoon in a sauna, then headed to a KTV for the evening (a real one) with your mates and had a blast, for within the 1700 budget.

Sauna - 650
KTV room - 1000 (split 4 ways - 250)
Tips etc - 300 max
Girl (sitting fee) - 500

Levitian
09-27-07, 05:44
Honestly, I do wonder why Jackson is recommending your report as "report of distinction" except to show a real example of extreme dumpness. What was that? Masochism? A self-experiment?
Only 3 weeks ago, same story, and plenty of warnings from many members of the forum posted here.
Seriously, you guys do not deserve better.

Levitian

Albert Punter
09-27-07, 11:29
BBB,

Many thanks for sharing !

These are among the best souvenirs you can bring back from Shanghai and show the famous red rope treatment to people who don't know it.


Np problems my friend - ENJOY.

WinteRain
09-27-07, 15:15
Np problems my friend - ENJOY.Billy,

Did you have any trouble/questions at all when you brought your camera along with you in the little bag?

I had wanted to do the same, but thought it would be a strict no no.

Albert Punter
09-27-07, 15:32
I don't know BBS in that area.

As far as places where you can pick-up pros, semi-pros or freebies, you may try clubs on Hengshan Lu, like Zapata's or Bourbon Street. Those are not "buy drink to me" venues but just regular clubs. Therefore, you won't spend fortune on drinks.


Hi everyone!

I can't talk Chinese and never went to BBS before.

Do you know any good one near the Xujiahui district where no talking is required?

Or a good establishment in that area to meet girls the usual way without paying too much for the drinks?

Thanks for all the tips, this forum is great!

Albert Punter
09-27-07, 15:39
As I had some spare time today I added more venues on Google Earth view of Shanghai.

I invite all of you to add places you know, like BBS, saunas, soaplands, bars, etc. and re-post link.

Thanks in advance for keeping Shanghai thread the best !

Serse
09-27-07, 16:55
Wow. I did not believe that Shanghai Forum was so well kept and usefull!

So, it was really a good surprise for me to have to carefully read the last two months reports (it took me about 1 week since English is not my mother language! ) to learn something about this city! And I did not imagine the possibility given by this city (I viseted China with my girlfriend just 6 months ago). Mhhh. I'm getting old and I'm loosing my view; )

Also finding some senior members found in other section (AlbertatBudapest f. I.) was a nice surprise.

I'll be in Shanghai around 10 of October (I'll post my full note in Travel Plans & Announcements), and I hope to be able to contribution to this forum at the level you are keeping it! Within two weeks I hope I wil be able to post it with some good news. )

Just a very quick and probably unusual question (I did not find an answer in previous report): has some of you some new information if ISG is available in Shanghai from China Internet connections? I read some different opinion in the General Threads. Just to know if I can stay connected to other ISG members by ISG or not.

Thanks in advance

Serse

Bad Boy Billy
09-27-07, 23:00
Wow. I did not believe that Shanghai Forum was so well kept and usefull!

So, it was really a good surprise for me to have to carefully read the last two months reports (it took me about 1 week since English is not my mother language! ) to learn something about this city! And I did not imagine the possibility given by this city (I viseted China with my girlfriend just 6 months ago). Mhhh. I'm getting old and I'm loosing my view; )

Also finding some senior members found in other section (AlbertatBudapest f. I.) was a nice surprise.

I'll be in Shanghai around 10 of October (I'll post my full note in Travel Plans & Announcements), and I hope to be able to contribution to this forum at the level you are keeping it! Within two weeks I hope I wil be able to post it with some good news. )

Just a very quick and probably unusual question (I did not find an answer in previous report): has some of you some new information if ISG is available in Shanghai from China Internet connections? I read some different opinion in the General Threads. Just to know if I can stay connected to other ISG members by ISG or not.

Thanks in advance

Serse

Serse I only ever stay at Ramada Plaza on Nanjing Lu (4 star) or Hua Ting Towers (5 star) - absolutely no problem with the internet connection in the hotels - ISG works fine.

I will be in Shanghai Oct 9 to 132 - drop me a pm if you want a bit of company 1 night.

Bad Boy Billy
09-27-07, 23:04
Billy,

Did you have any trouble/questions at all when you brought your camera along with you in the little bag?

I had wanted to do the same, but thought it would be a strict no no.

Absolutely no problem - just walk around the place like you own it and you will never be challenged.

My camera is a Casio Exilm - it is very small - fits easily into bag with cigearettes etc.

The girls have always been fabulous with the camera - although very 'face' shy which is understandable.

Important thing is to teach them how to use it - show both of them the pics as they take them - they have as much fun as you do and will end up doing virtually anything for you to take pics of.

What I posted is only a FRACTION of the good ones I have.

Bounce Around
09-28-07, 00:12
Thanks for the Google Earth maps. I think its a great effort.

I would like to say that my decision to pay for the membership of this site was basically due to the dedication of the members towards their fellow mongerers, and the pitance of a membership fee as compared to the amount of money spent on endeavours learned off by this site is really nothing. Not to mention the great pics such as Bad Boys'. And if you are a novice and read one of my useless posts you might just save some money.

To those people who do read and learn from this forum and don't have a desire to post, which is fine, IMHO you should show your gratitude in that form, and trust me the simple reward of pictures alone should do you justice.

Regarding the 'Reports of Distinction' comment on some posts, I think its an automated program feature of the site based on length.

Regarding the GPS tracking project by Albert, I found this really cool program for nokia phones which allows you to track yourself while walking, or in a car via GPS (for those phones that are equipped do a google search for 'Nokia Sports Tracker') and automatically produces a google earth log file (*. Kmz). I plan to use this while I am next in Shanghai possibly around OCT 15 to 27, though I don't know how much mongering I will be able to do as I have to escort two execs. Any senior members or otherwise if you want to accompany do let me know, I'll be trying to hit the BBS and LT action.

Blacklisted
09-28-07, 06:21
What I posted is only a FRACTION of the good ones I have.


Blacklisted thinks Billy's pics are a-okay! Actually a-fucking great.

Keep em coming mate! I see another Suga Baba in the making!

Albert Punter
09-28-07, 07:35
I never had problem in connecting to ISG when in China.
I connect from my serviced apartment, from hotels or even from offices (sometimes I need to relief the stress of meetings).



...
Just a very quick and probably unusual question (I did not find an answer in previous report): has some of you some new information if ISG is available in Shanghai from China Internet connections? I read some different opinion in the General Threads. Just to know if I can stay connected to other ISG members by ISG or not.

Thanks in advance

Serse

Bad Boy Billy
09-28-07, 07:38
Blacklisted thinks Billy's pics are a-okay! Actually a-fucking great.

Keep em coming mate! I see another Suga Baba in the making!

Sorry mate - the good ones clearly depict both participants - I have no desire to be an online 'porn star'.

I posted those pics just to show everyone how much fun can be had at Shanghai Hotel.

Nike - JUST DO IT.

JonnyBGood
09-28-07, 07:55
I took taxi there the other night and they took me to the right area, however to a new bar (rickys? ) and it looked nice but was empty. Since I don't speak Chinese it was difficult. The people outside made the motion of slitting their throat when I asked them about park97.

Is it now closed?

Tiger 888
09-28-07, 07:57
Blacklisted thinks Billy's pics are a-okay! Actually a-fucking great.

Keep em coming mate! I see another Suga Baba in the making!Come on, Sugar Babas pics can in no way compete with BBB's pics' quality.

JonnyBGood
09-28-07, 08:00
Wow is all I can say. Just be prepared to wait on weeknights as they will come. Patience is a virtue. Went twice and satisfied both times.

1st time was vietnamese girl whose name was "mine" and she had some really nice knockers. $100 usd and all night. Most everything offered including gfe.

2nd time was with filipina bigger girl (5' 7") who was quiet in the bar. She had a short little friend (aren't most of them tiny! ) who was funny and verbose. But the tall one had me intrigued but I was scared of "lady boy" so I kept saying things to verify she was indeed not your worst dream come true. When all was said and done I had her for 2 evenings of wild fun and huge gfe. Each night $100 usd with a small hkd tip of 50 or so. Had b'fast together at mcd's even! She is a keeper and told me she had such a great time it was a bonus (she c' several times as well! )

All in all I would recommend this over all the other joints on tongren as all you do there is sit down and the girls hover over you for buying them drinks with really nothing more promised and if you do get one it is only st pretty much guaranteed.

Jbg

Johnny Chan
09-28-07, 08:25
Come on, Sugar Babas pics can in no way compete with BBB's pics' quality.I would have to agree. Those pics were by far the best I've seen on ISG, and we haven't even seen the best of them yet. *sigh*

Albert Punter
09-28-07, 08:31
Come on, Sugar Babas pics can in no way compete with BBB's pics' quality.
I posted those pics just to show everyone how much fun can be had at Shanghai Hotel.I agree with Tiger888.

BBB's pics are informative, are not a sort of home made porn. As a matter of fact I will put a link in RoD.

Therefore, BBB is right too.

Upon my request he posted some pics and they are just a good sample of type of fun you get in that establishment.

I believe we don't look for porn pics here.

Albert Punter
09-28-07, 12:35
Allow me to go off topic.

Crabs season starts.

In case you want to taste them, I would recommend restaurant at 5th floor of Central Hotel, located at 555 Jiujiang Lu (just a block south of Nanjing Lu), which is specialized for this kind of food.

If you like, you can have a full meal with all dishes crabs based.

Eaglestar
09-28-07, 13:54
Allow me to go off topic.

Crabs season starts.
In case you want to taste them, I would recommend restaurant at 5th floor of Central Hotel, located at 555 Jiujiang Lu (just a block south of Nanjing Lu), which is specialized for this kind of food.
If you like, you can have a full meal with all dishes crabs based.

Gotta agree with you AP. Central Hotel has some of the best crab dishes as I have had in Shanghai.

Serse
09-28-07, 15:38
Bad Boy Billy. From Oct 9 to Oct 13 (if I have understood well)? These will be my working days. But If I'm free from working (and sad) collegues in the night, I'll contact you for sure! My punter free days will start with Sunday evening

Thanks everybody for your answers. Knowing ISG is available make me feel more relaxed (I don't need to download or print thousands of pages to remember the addresses! )

Serse

Ringer5
09-29-07, 00:22
I've heard that described as a "lymph gland massage" by a friend who managed to get an "upgrade" at the end of the process - never been tempted to experience it personally.

Concerning your other question, I recently found a couple of places that may suit you. On Zhang Yang Lu, coming east out of the Pudong downtown area, on the north-west corner of the crossroads with Yuanshen Lu, is a row of 4 or 5 massage shops. I've used two of them - the one I return to most often is in the middle, the girls wear light green striped uniforms and are generally pretty and friendly. The rooms are clean, shower is decent, and for me it's a nice place to call in at the end of a tough day. The massage is generally pretty good, and HJ is always offered - starting price usually 300, do your best from there! I've also used a place at the west end of the row, not as clean or well-arranged but the girl had amazing hand technique for 200RMB. There are two or three other places in the row with attractive girls in smart uniforms, which reminds me I must get back there soon...

About 1km to the east (towards the yuppie enclaves of Jinqiao) is a place with bright neon "massage" signs....have not tried that yet, but Pudong clearly has plenty to offer these days!

3. Speaking of decent massage, have you guys been to places where it's supposed to be good decent massage, except that they will use their fingernails to tease your buttocks and sometimes even your balls? What's that all about? It's such a bloody teaser, and in the end you'll have to go back for self-service. I'm not sure I've been had, but I swear I tried all sorts of ways to get them to go beyond teasing, but they wouldn't, saying they will be fired.

Now if someone can just share more places that offer massage with HJ, it will be just great. There appears to be many soapland, red-rope land, etc. But a massage-with-HJ place seemed so hard to find. I'm not talking about BBS though. I know of those, but I'm looking for a much more comfortable, decent, clean kind of outfit.

That's it for today.[/QUOTE]

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Greetings,

It appears that you inadvertently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix this sort of thing before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.

The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look for them in the text. Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". Please note the "/" forward slash in the last tag. It's that simple.

In addition, you can preview your report before it's posted, so it's easy to check if you got it right before it's displayed in The Forum.

Thanks,

Jackson

Ringer5
09-29-07, 00:33
You got an upgrade at the Four Seasons?? I'm amazed - I've been going there for a couple of years, in my opinion they consistently offer the best serious massage in town, but I've never seen or heard of extra services being available. Similar story at Elaine massage, I've been there a couple of times, didn't think much of the massage and wasn't offered anything additional. At the other (west) end of Biyun Lu, on BaiHua Lu is Biyun Tang Massage - clean, friendly and generally legitimate (although apparently I'm not a good judge of that!). One of the girls offered extra service inside and outside work, but the next time I asked for her she had "left to pursue other opportunities"! I think there is a general pressure to keep that side of Yang Gao Lu respectable, so as not to have too many GL8s parked outside dubious places late at night!

-I also tried the Four Season Massage, just down Biyun. Most of the girls were all-business, but one, #19, was 'friendly'--for money. HJ 200 (a lot, I know. but at the time well worth it. She's young, but had the best technique I've run across). It was my favorite place for regular massage outcall: 50308406

- Elain Massage, further down the street from ShaNaNa and Four Seasons (still on Biyun). Girls here would give HJ for 300, but the rest of the massage was below par.[/QUOTE]

==============================================

Greetings,

It appears that you inadvertently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix this sort of thing before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.

The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look for them in the text. Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". Please note the "/" forward slash in the last tag. It's that simple.

In addition, you can preview your report before it's posted, so it's easy to check if you got it right before it's displayed in The Forum.

Thanks,

Jackson

Logos
09-29-07, 01:30
BB Billy,

These were fabulous pictures and I've seen a few.

I had the exilim too, great thin little camera but the screen kept being fucked up from carrying it unprotected in a pocket I believe. I'll buy another one in shenzhen shortly. Last december I paid around 1300 for the large screen 7mb model.

I have a question for those familiar with Shanghai:

A business partner I don't know well yet suggests I stay at the following place:
"Summit Service Apartment" , they can get a discount rate of RMB550/night.
http://www.summithotelmgt.com/english/room.htm

At this stage I can't ask them about the local scene and am not too sure about the area. Any feedback appreciated as I'm not keen to be stuck in a place far away from the action.

I'll be in Shanghai from oct 13. Anybody interested in hanging out drop me a line.

Sauro07
09-29-07, 08:45
called Shanghai lilly massage, you can do a google search.

PS. If someone has used the service, and knows this girl, very thin, short ok boobs, darker complexion, curly long hair, I don't know her name or number, 'cause I would like to ask for her again. Though don't mind trying another one when I am in town next, possibly OCT 17.comments appreciated.I used them once, and the girl was really not into it. Good body, average face, but tried to rip me off. Anyway, I pumped her really nice.

Sauro07
09-29-07, 09:04
Here is the list why we should stay in 4-5 star hotels

They have lots of excellent girls right in their sauna.

Once I saw an amazing girl in Crown Plaza Jinan massage parlor. The price of doing her: 700rmb ST. This includes 200rmb for the room, since I am not in-house guest. She is more beautiful and retrospective than any girl we can see at any facility you can think of, institution, companies, etc

I think you get it now. For me, from now on, only 4-5 stars. No matter how it costs hehe.But I don't necessarily agree that 100% of the cases the 4-5 star hotels have available girls. Take the Regent Hotel, for example: they have a Gerlain Spa, 770RMB massage. Seems legit. Not sure if you can get anything there. Maybe 'cause of the brand.

Sauro07

Midrange
09-29-07, 16:46
My quest: get laid on every continent. Three down, three...or fourish maybe?...to go. Does Antarctica count or not?

I picked this place based on the recommendation in this report: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=642462&postcount=9461

Just to fill in some basic, hopefully useful info: if you want to get to the place by subway (not very classy I guess, but cheap), take Line 2 to Jing'an Temple. When you get out of the station, head west on West Nanjing Road (the road that the subway runs under), cross Huashan Road, and then hang a right on North Wulumuqi Road. It's like half a block. It's a big building with lots of lights and stuff, and I don't really know what the rest of it is. They're open from 1 PM to 2 AM. The going rate is 700 RMB each.

It was confirmed for me that I was at the right place when a tout dude handed me a little card. I think he was amazed that I was so easily persuaded to come in, but then I showed him that I had the address written down and he laughed.

If having a dude help you undress gives you the willies a little bit, this doesn't happen at this place. You go in a room and they let you change into pajamas yourself. As it turned out, they let me keep my own clothes because they realized I was way too big for the PJs.

Anyway, to get down to brass tacks: I decided to splurge on two xiaojies. I was given five ladies to choose from at first (behind a one-way mirror, I'm pretty sure). I was uncertain, so I asked if there were any others, and two more ladies came out. Eventually, I picked #85, who was petite and had a nice smile, and #77 who was a little taller and had a little bit more in the boob department. Sorry, I didn't get names/ages/provinces of origin...my Putonghua is bu hen hao.

I got a leisurely hour, maybe an hour & fifteen minutes with the two of them. Activities included a thorough hand-washing/table shower, dual body slide, dual tongue bath (I declined rimming), CBJ (I think maybe I could have had a BBBJ, but I proffered a condom), wrapping up with CFS from both ladies (both cowgirl only and one pop). I FIVed #77 a little, not as much as I would have liked. There was also some nipple sucking in the course of the CFS.

They were both friendly and good-natured. I got a quick kiss out of both of them, though neither struck me as particularly forthcoming in this regard. It was a very nice, relaxing experience, although overall I would be into something more GFE-ish. Any recommendations for places where I'll get more kissing and cuddling?

I don't feel like I can really rate them, because I'm pretty inexperienced and have little basis for comparison. I thought they were both great though...#85 was a little more sweet and innocent and #77 was a little more fiery (which is to say *acted* fiery).

The going rate is 700 RMB for service from one provider, so I was expecting to pay 1400, but it turned out to be 1300. Nice.

I'm probably forgetting some stuff, but overall I second the other fellow's recommendation. It's a classy joint, and they give you a fun, relaxing, sexy time.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Loso69
09-30-07, 02:42
A business partner I don't know well yet suggests I stay at the following place:
"Summit Service Apartment" , they can get a discount rate of RMB550/night.
http://www.summithotelmgt.com/english/room.htm

The location seems to be excellent. Just a couple of hundred meters from the Shanghai Hotel. :)

Through this site, you could book it for 398 RMB.

http://hotel.travelchinaguide.com/shanghai-hotels/summit-service-apartment-shanghai-200604211720330786.htm

Loso

Loso69
09-30-07, 03:21
My friend Logos will be joining me in Changping. As Cebu Pacific has flights to Manila from HK and Shanghai, I can either follow Logos to Shanghai or fly straight to the PI. To make my mind up, I started RTTFing the Shanghai forum...

FYI, Iím a laowai. I donít speak a word of Chinese. I require pictures (showing the face) of every girl I fuck. I donít like to play away from home.

Saunas? In-call only! BBS? In-call only! KTV? I hate bloody karaoke!

Take-away? Posts mention bars on Julu Lu, Tongren Lu, Xin Tian Di... But all the positive experiences I read about seem to be with... Filipinas.

Sounds like Iím better off giving Shanghai a miss. Anybody care to convince me otherwise?

Loso

Levitian
09-30-07, 03:41
"Sounds like Iím better off giving Shanghai a miss. Anybody care to convince me otherwise?"

No, nobody cares.

Levitian

Workmaal
09-30-07, 06:09
I went to Shanghai Hotel for the first time this past week. The location information posted in this forum is indeed correct:

505 Wulumuqi Road (Lu) - North (Bei)
Tel: +86 21 6248 0088

The hotel sign is displayed prominently in English, so it is impossible to mistake.

When I first arrived, I just assumed someone would see me and direct me to where the girls were; I was mistaken. This is a pretty nice hotel (judging from the lobby) and many hotel guests were checking in, both foriegners and Chinese (If fact, a bus load of Indians arrived just as I was leaving).

So, I wandered around in the lobby area and gift shop hoping I'd see a sign that would point me in the right direction.

Eventually, I ventured into the elevator. On the elevator button menu, I saw that there was a "Spa" located on the 2nd floor. This is indeed the place to go.

The staff greeted me as soon as I left the elevator. I took note of a price menu (mostly in Chinese) at the front desk. I believe 750 RMB was the highest service offered. I was immediately taken to a common area changing room where a young man bade me to undress and place my clothes and valuables (including my wallet) into a locker. After I undressed (completely nude) I was given an electronic key bracelet for the locker to wear around my wrist. I really wasn't sure what was going on at this point, since the atmosphere seemed more like a bathhouse than anything else.

I was given a pair of sandals and a towel and then I was ushered into a public bathhouse. The waitstaff all wear shorts in this room (everyone else is walking aroound naked). Most people I spoke to here only spoke Chinese. Fortunately, I know enough to get around. I was the only foriegner in the place, so I felt a little out of place. However, I was treated very respectfully, so it wasn't too awkward.

Inside the bathhouse I was asked to shower in one of the stalls. Afterward, one of the men-in-shorts brought me to an adjacent stall where I was told to lie down on a massage table (still inside the common area).

At this point in time I was thinking to myself "Where the fuck are the women? Am I going to get gyped out of 750 RMB??"

Anyway, the man-in-shorts proceded to give me a facial scrub which exfoliated about a "marble" sized portion of skin. Afterward, he gave me the option of having a whole body session for a price of 70 RMB. Figuring I should just go with the flow, I accepted. Minutes later, he exfoliated a small handfull of skin from my front and back with a rough cloth. Rolled up dead skin kind of looks like a chunk of dog turd - really gross.

Afterward, a bathworker bade me to get into the public hot tub which was very relaxing. They have a flat screen TV on the wall which is nice to watch (which, incidently, was playing the Womens Football World Cup; Germany vs. Norway).

Afterward, the bathworkers led me to the dressing room (still in the common area) and I was asked to put on a pair of loose shorts and a shirt.

FINALLY, I was led down a private hallway to get a massage. A young girl dressed up in a Kimono (or somesuch costume) pointed me down another corridor. It seemed like a small maze of passageways with multiple rooms to either side. I believe at one point, they were going to leave me in a small waiting room, but after a moments pause, they just brought me to where the section where girls were. All my thoughts of apprehension disappeared. The girls were all dressed in proper **** wear (except for the hostess of course).

The hostess then lined up three girls in front of me and asked me too choose. I chose #90 who was the only one who looked up and smiled at me.

#90 brought me to a nearby room. Inside was a water cooler and a bed. The opposite wall and ceiling were covered with mirrors (for your viewing pleasure).

The girl quickly undressed (made easier by the fact that she was already practically in her underwear). I was told to lie down on the table.

Basically the session was split into three sessions.

1) Nude massage
2) BBBJ
3) Sex

Interestingly enough, the room had series of bars hanging down from the ceiling which were used during the 3rd session (sex). #90 would tie a red scarf from various part of the bars and hang herself down in various positions (upside down, sideways, like a swing, etc.). It was odd, but it certainly worked.

After I had finished, I was escorted back to the common bath room to shower up and then headed back to the changing room to change.

After dressing I was escorted to the front desk where I paid my bill (750 RMB for the "massage" and an additional 70 RMB for the exfoliation).

All in all, I think the Shanghai Hotel was decent experience. The total time spent was about 2 hours and girl #90 was above average.

It wasn't quite as good the other SPA I've been to (202 Wulumuqi Lu - Bei, which is about a 5-10 minute walk north from SH). That place had private shower inside the girl's room, which trumps the scarf experience at SH. I can't guarantee that that place is even open anymore since the last time I went was back in April.

I will be returning to Shanghai in December, so drop me a PM if you want to get together. I'm always interested in experiencing new things.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Blacklisted
09-30-07, 08:09
Sounds like I’m better off giving Shanghai a miss. Anybody care to convince me otherwise?

Loso

I'd rather convince you that you are right. Waste of time. Don't bother!

Member #1604
09-30-07, 10:20
My friend Logos will be joining me in Changping. As Cebu Pacific has flights to Manila from HK and Shanghai, I can either follow Logos to Shanghai or fly straight to the PI. To make my mind up, I started RTTFing the Shanghai forum...

FYI, Iím a laowai. I donít speak a word of Chinese. I require pictures (showing the face) of every girl I fuck. I donít like to play away from home.

Saunas? In-call only! BBS? In-call only! KTV? I hate bloody karaoke!

Take-away? Posts mention bars on Julu Lu, Tongren Lu, Xin Tian Di... But all the positive experiences I read about seem to be with... Filipinas.

Sounds like Iím better off giving Shanghai a miss. Anybody care to convince me otherwise?

Loso

Yes, just [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off Shanghai and Beijing, just go to Wuhan Howard Johnson Hotel.

Loso69
09-30-07, 16:30
Friendly gang in Shanghai! As for the girls, it seems as if the Shanghai mongers donít measure up to the Changping mob. Big fish in a little pond!

Anyway, I booked my flight from HK to Manila. Ciao, Shanghai!

Loso

Albert Punter
09-30-07, 20:00
Why I should convince you as you have not been convinced by reading this thread ?

As someone else said, don't bother to come and leave more girls for the "gang".
Take care.



...
Sounds like Iím better off giving Shanghai a miss. Anybody care to convince me otherwise?

Loso

Bad Boy Billy
09-30-07, 22:16
My friend Logos will be joining me in Changping. As Cebu Pacific has flights to Manila from HK and Shanghai, I can either follow Logos to Shanghai or fly straight to the PI. To make my mind up, I started RTTFing the Shanghai forum...

FYI, Iím a laowai. I donít speak a word of Chinese. I require pictures (showing the face) of every girl I fuck. I donít like to play away from home.

Saunas? In-call only! BBS? In-call only! KTV? I hate bloody karaoke!

Take-away? Posts mention bars on Julu Lu, Tongren Lu, Xin Tian Di... But all the positive experiences I read about seem to be with... Filipinas.

Sounds like Iím better off giving Shanghai a miss. Anybody care to convince me otherwise?

Loso


Loso you are an experienced seasoned monger - your post appears to be a bit like a child stomping his feet.

You have been to many countries and mongered with the best of them.

You of all people understand the differences from country to country - city to city.

You SHOULD not need convincing on any topic - make your decision yourself - Shanghai is DIFFERENT - Shanghai is UNIQUE - Shanghai is not Manila / AC / Cebu - Shanghai is not Rio - it posesses none of those cities WONDERFULLY UNIQUE characteristics - rather it has its own WONDERFULLY UNIQUE experiences.

Come and enjoy - or go elsewhere - only you will be the loser if you do not enjoy these unique experiences that others have LOVED experiencing.

Ringer5
10-01-07, 00:51
Sorry - this is the part intended to be quoted:

"-I also tried the Four Season Massage, just down Biyun. Most of the girls were all-business, but one, #19, was 'friendly'--for money. HJ 200 (a lot, I know. but at the time well worth it. She's young, but had the best technique I've run across). It was my favorite place for regular massage outcall: 50308406

- Elain Massage, further down the street from ShaNaNa and Four Seasons (still on Biyun). Girls here would give HJ for 300, but the rest of the massage was below par./"

My response was shock and awe that someone had obtained extra services at the Four Season Massage, which is a great place for friendly, serious massage but not anything else....but where there's a will, there's a way!

==============================================

Greetings,

It appears that you inadvertently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. Usually I can fix this sort of thing before it's displayed, but I don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.

The quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look for them in the text. Anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "
" and end with "[/quote ]". Please note the "/" forward slash in the last tag. It's that simple.

In addition, you can preview your report before it's posted, so it's easy to check if you got it right before it's displayed in The Forum.

Thanks,

Jackson

JPF
10-01-07, 02:51
A slight correction and request:

- in one of the earlier reports it says that the Shanghai Hotel is across from the Huashan Hospital. It is diagonally across. Right across Wulumqui is a hole in the wall Chinese hotel. The fellow on duty really thought I was crazy when I kept pantomining that I wanted to go up to the second floor to see if there was sauna there (to know if I was in the right place). The Shanghai hotel is just north across Huangshan.

Frankly, I didn't get much out of the "tongue bath". For the uninitiated it is composed of 2 parts: a "slurping" with warm water being noisily forced against your skin (from her mouth) followed by licking. While it was sexual when applied to my fingers, toes, nipples, ass, and genitals a large portion (timewise) was on my arms, legs, and back. I much prefer a good standard massage that works the muscles (by kneading, chopping, pulling, etc.). Soapies are somewhere in the middle.

I looked over my notes and don't see a distinction from the reports as to the type of massage. Can someone recommend places that offer a good, standard massage (either in a sauna or massage parlor) followed by FS (or HJ if the massage is really good)? Thanks.

Last night was my first night in town. I will be around and available from Tuesday (Oct. 3) until Oct. 10 if anyone wants to get together for some joint mongering. Send me a PM.

Loso69
10-01-07, 03:53
Bad Boy Billy,

There are over 9000 posts in the Shanghai thread. As preliminary research, I obviously didnít have time to read them all. I did download all this yearís posts (136 pages!) in PDF format and strung them all together to make searching easy.

I skimmed through the huge document, skipping posts about in-call options (sauna, BBS) & KTV. I have no interest in them. I read posts about ďbuy-me-drinkĒ girls (WTF?). I read good things about the Filipinas in Manhattan. But I never found what I was looking for - members (preferably laowais) reporting positive experiences with Chinese girls (take-away only). The Shanghai P4P options may be worth exploring for resident expats and visiting businessmen, but to travel to Shanghai exclusively for mongering purposes... nah!

Then again, maybe Judyís has a great selection of China Dolls providing wonderful service these days? If so, the extremely helpful Shanghai gang definitely wouldnít tell me about it!

BTW, I didnít make any comparisons. But, for this middle-aged laowai, the current ranking is:

1) Angeles
2) Rio
3) Changping
...
Last) Riga

Loso

OldAsiaHand
10-01-07, 04:57
Loso69,

Is Shanghai a mongering destination? No.
Can you have a good time and get laid? Yes.
Is it suitable for your preferred mongering style? No.

You cannot compare Shanghai with CP. CP is a unique mongering destination, probably the best it gets in China for Chinese girls. Unfortunately, BBB has not been there, although he keeps promising to stop by. (Get your ass down here BBB!)

Having said that, I have always enjoyed myself in Shanghai albeit with the gracious hospitality of the "gang".

One of my favorites are the BBBJ joints. Great BBBJCIM for only 100 RMB. The BBS action is plentiful enough, but not as concentrated or as many girls per shop as in CP. I noticed that many BBB will not allow take-out if they do not know you. And, most in town, charge a laowai surcharge, Happy Town and the Village excepted.

I do not find the TRL girls that attractive. It seemed like a lot of work to get them to go with you. I've picked up a few SW with average service. With the exception of a rare instance in Hong Kong, I only do Filipinas in The Philippines, so they are not an attraction for me in Shanghai.

Sauna (comparable service with S. China) and KTV can be more expensive, but I have seen some real stunners in Shanghai KTV on the very few occassions I went in the past. Available for take-out if you have deep pockets.

As BBB has said, Shanghai is a unique city with some excellent experiences to be had, however, I do not believe it is for you. At least half the fun I've had there is just hanging out with the "gang".

Just my POV.

OAH

Ace Gallant
10-01-07, 06:50
Friendly gang in Shanghai! As for the girls, it seems as if the Shanghai mongers donít measure up to the Changping mob. Big fish in a little pond!

Anyway, I booked my flight from HK to Manila. Ciao, Shanghai!

Loso

Every city is different and has its unique type of fun.

CP is a monger's holiday city.

Depends on what you like, you can always find fun most cities in China!

Enjoy!
AG

One Wing Low
10-01-07, 07:18
How did you persuade these girls to let you take pics?

How many percent would just walk out rather than giving pics?

Come to think of it, my success rate for pics was 100% in SZ, CP and DG, and 25% in ZH.

I am too lazy to upload into ISG but will upload into a photography site and invite a few trusted mongers to view them.


FYI, Iím a laowai. I donít speak a word of Chinese. I require pictures (showing the face) of every girl I fuck. I donít like to play away from home.
Loso

Lamalavida
10-01-07, 09:50
I have been living in Shanghai now for about a month. I cannot say that I have been doing good in the lady department which leads me to option 2, massage parlours, barbershops and outcall. I am interested in the former two. I have not had much luck locating any of these. I have been to Tongren Lu, and the bars seem rather pricey and the bars that I did go into, the girls just seemed to want drinks and nothing more. After reading a little bit here, I have decided to venture back tonight to Manhattan. It sounds like that might be the spot. Any suggestions would help. Directions and addresses to any of these spots would also be greatly appreciated and the closer they are to a metro station, the better. Thanks and I will keep posting as I am on the ground in Shanhai.

Vnbeam
10-01-07, 15:31
after several years of rtff'ing i thought it's about time i gave something back! my work has me travelling the globe to 4 or 5 destinations a month and i always try to ensure at least one of those takes in my favourite city, shanghai. bear in mind that i am a westerner who speaks only 3 words of chinese (hello, goodbye and thankyou) you may be much more successful than me if you have local knowledge. before i start i would just like to say how much i appreciate the patience and information provided by the senior members. as they frequently say, all the information is already here if only you can be bothered to look. having done this myself here is a synopsis of my experiences over the last few years.

saunas

generally divided into 2 types Ė either a conventional sauna type experience or a soapland (washing based) style. both result in full service in the establishments listed here. i personally prefer to go to a soapy if i am a limited time or a conventional sauna if i have no time constraints as i can chill out for as long as i like in the hot pools. prices are generally around 700-800 rmb for one girl and 1100-1300 for two. everyone should try 2 girl at least once just to check that box in your log book but personally i don't find the extra 50% cost worth it. conventional sauna establishments usually have a bloke who will want to exfoliate you for a small extra fee. it is not compulsory and many people don't like it as they can make you red raw! you also need to be ok with the idea of some bloke getting a little up close and personal with the old man!

yu ping sauna (448 zun yi lu, 20 mins by taxi west of downtown shanghai, not far from hongqaio). this is one that doesn't seem to get so many comments these days (at least not on this board). if you stand looking at the entrance to the yu ping hotel (quite grotty looking) you will see another revolving door to the right. go through door and walk straight ahead where they will beckon you forward. this was the first sauna i went to and still remains an occasional old fave. this place is a conventional sauna set up with very nice dťcor in the sauna areas (rock tiled walls, roman style baths, etc.). after the sauna experience you will be led to a general seating area where you can have a free beer and they will also bring some nibbles (nuts and watermelon slices). you will be sat in lazy boy chairs with a couple of large screen tellys playing local tv. manicures and pedicures are available in the main room at a small extra cost and i have even been on the receiving end of a cutie cleaning out my ears (very strange but what the hell). after a short while the manager will offer either a full massage or a foot massage. the foot massage is done by a different set of girls to the full massage and results in a reasonably good massage followed by an oily tug in a separate room. most people opt for full service. the manager will lead you into a nicely lit corridor behind the bar area where you will come to a long horizontal slit-like window through which you will see usually 10-25 ladies. they rate as fairly typical for most shanghai saunas but every now and then you will find a honey. service usually includes the standard cat bath, rimming, red rope, bbbj and fs however i did have several visits a short while ago with the girl who was the service trainer and she really was a very, very bad girl indeed! unfortunately she has gone now, however it might well be worth asking for the service trainer wherever you go. service usually lasts 60-70 minutes after which you can take as long as you like going back through the main bar area where you can get a snack if you know how to ask (it used to come automatically) and if you like you can spend more time in the sauna area. all in all, not the greatest place but there is something about it that keeps dragging me back. or is it just because i lost my sauna virginity here!

the shanghai hotel (central location near jingan). so much written on the forum already that i won't go into too much detail. nice sauna facilities but the exfoliating guys are always far to desperate to show you how much skin they get off you. extensive manicure and pedicure facilites in the general seating area but after seeing the girls they tend to usher you straight back to the sauna area to get you out the door. when the time comes to choose your girl be ready to walk into a room where you will be face to face with 10-20 ladies. this can be a bit unnerving the first time it happens. definitely the hottest choice of girls but expect them to have more attitude than elsewhere. i am reasonably endowed (not overly so for a caucasian) but i am getting fed up with number of girls here that use this as an excuse to get out of giving a proper service.

ji yuan salon (north-west corner of the jiao zhou lu/changping lu junction, a 15 minute walk north of jingan). 2 or 3 young guys outside will show you the way upstairs. this was the first soapy i tried. premises are very nice and impressive however i feel the attendant staff are not. several smaller waiting rooms compared to the other establishments mentioned above. pretty selection of girls but service was remarkably average on several occasions. bearing in mind that i usually monger in the mid-afternoon this place usually involves a wait while others do not. would i go again? only if many other places were shut. having said all that, there are many people here that absolutely love the place.

209 wulumuqi lu (right by jingan and a 5 minute walk north from the shanghai hotel). another soapy. a guy will meet you at the building entrance and show you to the lift that will take you straight to the correct floor. very nice set up using a lot of small waiting rooms (typically a max of 4 people in each but i have always been on my own) with their own televisions. never had to wait more than a few seconds before being called to the fishbowl. consequently this is a really good option if you only have an hour and a half window before having to be elsewhere. the fishbowl is a room where you sit with the manager on a sofa with a glass pane in front of you. the girls will then be brought in to the room behind the pane. the downside is that they will only bring in 5 girls, however they will often pull out a couple more if you ask. girls are fairly typical of what you will find elsewhere but the service is usually good and i feel the place is much cosier than ji yuan.

shu yi quan sauna (825 yan an middle road, on the south side of the road and to the west of the junction with shanxi nan lu). a couple of young guys outside will show you inside. a conventional sauna with a large communal waiting room/bar area. the jacuzzi/pool has several large screen televisions usually showing sports but the water is alarmingly green! unfortunately if you want a beer you have to pay for that as an extra. the bar waitress was quite hot and got all giggly but we had no common language, which was a shame as if i could have had her i would have been delighted. unfortunately i was led straight to a room where a rather dumpy girl was delivered with no other option available and the language barrier insurmountable. haven't been back since.

bo duo hui suo (on the north side of xietu lu just to the west of luban lu, 15 minute taxi ride south of the central area and not far from the lupu bridge). look for a century mart supermarket and then look to the right for a small entrance where you'll find a lift that will take you straight to the right floor. confusingly, it has a small sign saying 'tomson' above the entrance but don't confuse it with the next place on my list. only discovered this place recently after recent postings on this forum and it's currently sitting in my number one spot. i really like this place, not only do you get 90 minutes of playtime but you also get both conventional sauna and soapland experience. on arrival you are guided to a smaller waiting room with television very similar to 209 wulumuqi where you change into your pj's. if you ask you can then go to a jacuzzi/pool area with a sauna and exfoliation although there isn't quite the atmosphere some other places have. afterwards you can go to the fishbowl and choose from 15-20 girls, most of which are fairly average but there are some cuties if you take your time looking. there have been reports saying the glass is one way but i am fairly sure this isn't the case. there are also reports that there are uniforms on offer which i'd love to try but regrettably i haven't discovered the language skills to exploit that one yet. it certainly hasn't been offered by gesture. the service has always been really good on each occasion i have been there. it is another good one to bear in mind if you only have a limited time available as you can be all done and dusted in 2 hours.

tomson sauna (4th floor of the jin yu lan plaza on the south east side of the xu jia hui lu and da pu lu junction). it is not spelt thompson, tompson or thomson as some reports have suggested! only been to this one once but unfortunately it was a really poor experience. it is a conventional type sauna but with a few really strange features. the attendant staff are quite creepy as they seem to be a bit too interested in you when you are naked. also, rather bizarrely, when walking around the sauna part there were three of the full service ladies in the same area loitering around. their intention is to do the exfoliation part of the service and therefore bag you so you don't get a choice from the fishbowl. unfortunately her exfoliation skills were also a bit crap but the body was good so i let it go. she then drove me past the fishbowl (which had some great looking girls in there) into a room. there may be a witing room/bar but i wouldn't know as i wasn't given the chance to find out! the cat bath, ice and fire and ar was no more than cursory and the bj was covered (it's always been bbbj everywhere else over here in my experience). having complimented me earlier on the size of my equipment she then started complaining and insisted that i finished after only 45 minutes. this is supposed to be another 90 minute place. there then followed the most uncomfortably period of 5 minutes where she effectively completely ignored me before then hurrying me out the door. for interest her number was 612 and i recommend you all put her on you avoid list. when i was unceremoniously dumped straight back in the sauna they tried to encourage me to get showered and go but i thought i might as well try and get something for my money by having a dip in the jacuzzi/pool. this turned out to be quite interesting as while i was there some blinds pulled up to reveal 8 new girls being trained to pole dance by a service trainer! they were behind a glass panel which was one way as every now and then one of the girls would come up to the glass and try to peer through to see if anyone was there. interestingly one of the new girls was number 609. this was a number that has been recommended recently but she seems to be a brand new girl since then. all in all this was my worst experience in shanghai however i would be prepared to give it another try on the basis of the fact that next time i would not let one of the girls railroad the proceedings. be warned!

massage with hj

there have been a couple of places mentioned over the last couple of years offering massage followed by an oily tug or even prostate massage. one was cylz (at 888 changde lu) and the other was just east of there but i can't remember its name. both seem to have closed down now but they were ok for what they were. now to reveal my best kept secret. there is a small massage place 10 minutes walk from jingan where you can get a fantastic 90 minute oil massage with excellent hj for a total price of 118 rmb. yes i did really say a total price of 118 rmb! head north-west from jingan down wanhangdu lu. after about 400 meters you will come to some traffic lights where the main part of the road curves off slightly right but a small road carries on ahead. go down there and after 100 meters or so there is a park on the left with some basketball courts in there. when looking at the park there is a a massage place off to the left (it is down a small alley from the road you have just walked down). no one inside will speak english but there is a big board above the reception desk with the top 2 items being oil massage (one 45 mins and one 90 mins). go for the 90 minute option but try to select the girl from all the girls loitering around (be careful as there are a few middle aged women around there). i have been there many times and only ever had one bad experience due to a girl who clearly didn't know how to massage. at last i can now feel that i have given something back to the group!

bbs

haven't really discovered this side of things. there is a place on the west corner of beijing lu and wanhangdu lu with some real hotties inside every evening but it's just far too public a spot for me to try.

sw

a brief flirtation with this is what steered me towards the sauna scene. too many rip offs for my liking.

the pub

unfortunately my biggest disappointment of the mongering scene in shanghai. it took me a long time to work out where it was because at that time there were a lot less clues on the forum. when i eventually went i was expecting a great experience but frankly what i got was in line with the poor experiences other guys have been getting recently. i shall stick with what i know.

hope the above is useful to somebody. if not i have just wasted a whole heap of my time! cheers to all the seniors who gave me the info i used to find out all the above and long live rtff!

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Jazz Fish
10-01-07, 17:35
Hi OldAsiaHand,

Can you highlight the few BBBJ joints that you know of? I only know the one at Xuanhua lu. All other BBs Iv visitied tend to be HJ or FS specific.

Thanks a mill

Loso69
10-01-07, 19:29
One Wing Low,

I usually ask in advance about pictures, but since I donít speak Chinese, thatís not an option in China. But itís rare that a girl refuses to have her picture taken (fully dressed).

I use a semi-professional camera and I know what Iím doing. I always show the girls their pictures on TV and offer to burn them a CD with their pictures. Making the girls look great often encourages them to take more pictures. :)

Here are my stats:

Zhuhai: 11/12 (one LHL girl refused pictures; I sent her packing)
Changping: 29/30 (1 BBS girl refused pictures; I took her back and exchanged her)
Shenzhen: 9/9

Both girls who refused pictures... didn't want to be with me anyway.

BTW, why did you get such lousy stats in ZH? Saunas?

Loso

Ringer5
10-02-07, 01:50
This report got me interested, so I went to try the Baoan for myself. The experience was largely as described by the other esteemed member, with some critical differences...I must have gone at a busy time, as I had to wait about 20 minutes in the lounge / TV area. I was led to a room for the massage, where the girl was indeed dressed in a skimpy red and black dress. She was only moderately attractive, and I was concerned to find out that she was from Shanghai - in my experience, that means Attitude, with a very capital "A"! The face-down part of the massage was ok, but nothing special. When it was time to turn over she removed her dress as advertised - and then everything else! So far so good, except for two things - she undressed with all the enthusiasm and eroticism of a Carrefour parking attendant, and she had a distinct beer belly! Not a great start for the rest of the massage - technique ok but not exceptional, but marred by a total lack of enthusiasm (initially on her part, eventually also on mine!). She did allow a lot of touching, but did not bother to react to anything (she could at least have pretended occasionally....). In spite of her being totally naked, there was no indication of FS being available (although to be honest, there was too much mutual disinterest in the room for it to be worth pursuing!)

So that was about it - an interesting experience, priced as previously reported, but felt a bit too much like a process for me. Back to Zhang Yang Lu !

"I have not read any reports on the forum about the Baoan Hotel Sauna so I thought I would take a look see. The location is adjacent to the Purple Mountain Hotel between Zhang Yang Lu and Weifeng Xi lu in Pudong. Very near the Intercontinental. I had strolled in to the 5th floor lobby area before but found it to be shut until after noon.

The facility is probably one of the finest around with first class decoration and very spotless service areas. The showers rivaled any 5 star hotel. The staff we polite and distant but helpful when needed. Didnít hover. The actual massage rooms were beautiful but the doors did not lock nor did the windows have coverings. First clue.

I did the requisite shower and had nice PJís in my size (xl) handed to me and was allowed to dry myself and put on my own clothes. My preference. I was lead down a 200 meter set of corridors to the room where a very pretty (8+) 27 year old Nanjing girl was waiting in a sexy red and black nightie dress. She took my PJ top and lead me to the massage table, a very comfortable and clean one with a set of bars overhead. #929 proceeded to give me the finest dry massage I have ever had! The back walk was fantastic! She finally tugged off my bottoms and I heard her rustle around in her bag and then the beautiful sound of her dress hitting the floor! There she was in a cut bra and panties but did not offer to remove them. Very nice trim and petite body! She proceeded to oil up my backside and my tool while I was on my stomach. Then she had me roll over for a very very good baby oil HJ. She let me handle her pert nipples but nothing south of the border. No offer of anything better or up charges or tips mentioned. Very good eye contact and a beautiful smile throughout. Cleaned up and then a nice long hug. First class service at luxury prices!

Damages! 864 for about 80 minutes. I did not ask upfront and did not try to negotiate after but thought the work was Ďtai kwa le! í. Next time for less, I could have a really good time at the first spa on Lao Shan Lu south of Weifeng Xi Lu where my favorite babe will allow prolonged DATY and an even better GFE for 2 hours!

Anyone else have any FS ideas for Baoan?/"

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

WinteRain
10-02-07, 05:49
Interestingly one of the new girls was number 609. This was a number that has been recommended recently but she seems to be a brand new girl since then. All in all this was my worst experience in Shanghai however I would be prepared to give it another try on the basis of the fact that next time I would not let one of the girls railroad the proceedings. Be warned!Bravo on your post! I haven't been back to Tomson after having the said girl as my gf. Seems like the new management is changing alot of stuff, overworking the girls. 609 was only taught and introduced to the dancing last week. But having the girls frolicking around the bath area sure is a bold move, and uncomfortable one for us.

Cap Iota
10-02-07, 06:35
There is a small massage place 10 minutes walk from JingAn where you can get a fantastic 90 minute oil massage with excellent HJ for a total price of 118 rmb. Yes I did really say a total price of 118 rmb! Head north-west from JingAn down Wanhangdu Lu. After about 400 meters you will come to some traffic lights where the main part of the road curves off slightly right but a small road carries on ahead. Go down there and after 100 meters or so there is a park on the left with some basketball courts in there. When looking at the park there is a a massage place off to the left (it is down a small alley from the road you have just walked down). No one inside will speak english but there is a big board above the reception desk with the top 2 items being oil massage (one 45 mins and one 90 mins). Go for the 90 minute option but try to select the girl from all the girls loitering around (be careful as there are a few middle aged women around there). I have been there many times and only ever had one bad experience due to a girl who clearly didn't know how to massage. At last I can now feel that I have given something back to the group!


If you don't mind the cockroaches, it's a good deal. I swear I've seen some of the biggest cockroaches in Shanghai at this place... can't beat that pricing though.

One Wing Low
10-02-07, 13:24
Hi Loso,

Your pics of the girls look like studio quality. You did a great service by taking and sharing images of beauties with the rest of the world.

It's probably a good idea to to start small, taking their pics fully clothed first. Show them the pics, then gradually remove the clothes... Would have better chance of success. I dont speak Chinese, so have harder time convincing them of anything. The girls in SZ, DG and CP would eventually allow full-nude pics with a lot of gesturing on my part. Chinese-speaking bros should have easier time convincing the girls.

In ZH the girls were all LHL material, so I did not have enough time to convince them. One of the LHL girls had the prettiest face, big doe eyes, beautiful body, round and pert boobies, long sexy legs...exactly the kind of beauty I wanna show the world. But she would scream and run into the bathroom to hide every time I took out the camera. I hope she is still around. This time I would a least get her pretty face.

Asian girls are very prudish about their bodies and the pics. They seem to want anonimity to eventually find guys who would marry them. Cant blame them. The Mexican girls in Tijuanna act in the same ways.

The Latin American girls on the contrary are very easy about pics. I had many girls in Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay... who would gladly pose in all sorts of erotic ways for pics.

After so many years of lugging a leather bag full of 35mm gear, I now carry only a small Canon digital camera in my pocket. I can take a lot more pictures of people, being less intrusive with a small camera, which I can conceal in my hand until the last seconds. The camera has 8X zoom lens, equivalent to a 35-135mm zoom, so it's decent for portraiture and OK for landscape. The lens aperture is small, so it's hard to be artsy, but it's easy and convenient.

I've seen beautiful collections of art pictures done by the masters, using very simple and cheap cameras. It's primarily about their vision of what are beauty and interesting...

Taking portraits of the girls, I try to use natural light as much as I can. The last time I took portraits of an elusive street girl in TJ with flash, she did not look very good. You would need big flashes with reflective umbrellas to make portraits look good.



One Wing Low,

I usually ask in advance about pictures, but since I donít speak Chinese, thatís not an option in China. But itís rare that a girl refuses to have her picture taken (fully dressed).

I use a semi-professional camera and I know what Iím doing. I always show the girls their pictures on TV and offer to burn them a CD with their pictures. Making the girls look great often encourages them to take more pictures. :)

Here are my stats:

Zhuhai: 11/12 (one LHL girl refused pictures; I sent her packing)
Changping: 29/30 (1 BBS girl refused pictures; I took her back and exchanged her)
Shenzhen: 9/9

Both girls who refused pictures... didn't want to be with me anyway.

BTW, why did you get such lousy stats in ZH? Saunas?

Loso

Midrange
10-02-07, 16:48
My second report comes from the Pub where I met the ever-popular Xiao Mi.

The place was easier to find and generally figure out than I had imagined. I went relatively early and was the only customer when I first got there. I don't know if technically you're supposed to get a choice of girls, but one lady came up to me and asked something, and I assented, and I was quickly whisked away to the back room. I guess I was confused and thought she was the mamasan or something. Mei guanxi, though, since I apparently accidentally got the best provider in the place.

Pricing seems to still be 300 BJ, 400 BJ + FS, plus 20 for the beer. BBBJ, CFS (cowgirl & mish), a few extras (e. G. A bit of mutual nipple play). Probably the best part was the GFE. It was really nice and unrushed. I had a good time looking at my Chinese-English dictionary with her and trying to make small talk.

After a relatively short time, we went out to the main bar area and I was given a good amount of time to cuddle with her, watch South Korean soap operas with the other girls, and finish my beer. She tried to sell me on another go round, but not too hard a sell. When I declined, I decided to leave since I didn't want to take up more of her time if I wasn't giving her more business. I probably could have lingered longer, though, at least until more customers came in.

She wrote down her name and cell number for me, presumably should I be interested in LT. Another post suggested she'll do overnight for 700. If I had a little more time and a little more money, I'd consider it. I was pleased overall because I got some of the GFE some there that I missed at 209 Wulumuqi. At the same time, I would say you get what you pay for, as the facilities and attractiveness of the women are a significant cut below what you get at 209. I think both places are good for what they are, although knowing what I know from the forum, I don't think I would risk spending money at the Pub on any girl other than Xiao Mi.

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King Squared
10-03-07, 03:32
The word on the street is that Yu Ping is closed.

Lamalavida
10-03-07, 03:58
I hit up Manhattan like I said I would a couple nights ago. I don't like the majority of bars on Tongren, at least for mongering. It seems that the girls just hound you to by drinks. However, Manhattan was a totally different story. I was not hounded at all and there were some really good looking girls in there, many of which were not Chinese. I spotted a nice looking girl with a big rack. I approached her and it turned out she was from Vietnam and was there with a friend. To make a long story short, I bought her a few drinks, and ended up taking her home for LT. We settled on 1000 RMB for the whole night. It was a good evening and we continued on until the morning. It was a GFE, especially in the morning when we went for coffee and a stroll on Nanjing Lu. I will call her again. Good experience. Now, I would like to find the Pub. Any assistance?

Bad Boy Billy
10-03-07, 07:03
I hit up Manhattan like I said I would a couple nights ago. I don't like the majority of bars on Tongren, at least for mongering. It seems that the girls just hound you to by drinks. However, Manhattan was a totally different story. I was not hounded at all and there were some really good looking girls in there, many of which were not Chinese. I spotted a nice looking girl with a big rack. I approached her and it turned out she was from Vietnam and was there with a friend. To make a long story short, I bought her a few drinks, and ended up taking her home for LT. We settled on 1000 RMB for the whole night. It was a good evening and we continued on until the morning. It was a GFE, especially in the morning when we went for coffee and a stroll on Nanjing Lu. I will call her again. Good experience. Now, I would like to find the Pub. Any assistance?

Mate I love reading these reports on 'Bars' in Shanghai.

So much of this thread is directed at BBS and Massage places - yes I love Shanghai Hotel massage but am not a BBS person.

My idea of a great night is to pick up a 's.l.u.tily' dressed w.h.o.r.e in a bar - like Manhattan, Judys, Park 97, Attica, Bar Rouge etc and take them back to the hotel for a serious extended session.

Thats where in my opinion Beijing is FAR better than Shanghai - 2 words - Maggies and Hollywood.

But I did not mean to ramble and hijack your post - what time were you in Manhattan? Any Russian hookers there? Did you poke your head into Judys?

I will be in Shanghai Oct 9 to 13 - I will be in Manhattan and Judys on night Oct 9 if anybody is interested in joining me for a drink.

Zapatas on Wed night Oct 10 - they still have 'ladies night' in Zapatas on Wed nights I assume?

So many Chinese girls in Zapatas looking for a western guy - not to be missed.

Blackjai
10-03-07, 09:41
A few weeks ago I went to Shanghai hotel for some sauna action and followed the usual procedure, the girls aren't as pretty as the last time that I was there which is already a couple of months back.

Anyway the long story short, as I finish the 'massage' the girl told me there there's another level downstairs that offer soapy massage instead of the dry one and it cost around 900 yuen instead of 750 yuen I think? Have anyone tried this? I really would prefer soapy massage rather than the dry ones.

Ps.

After the massage I went to the sitting area to catch some sleep when this quite sexy young lady came over to offer me foot massage, and of course it ends up massaging your di-di. Anyway that was pretty good to cuz the girls are much better looking than the massage girls.

This is my first report, so if what I've said here have already been mentioned, sorry.

BionicMan
10-03-07, 16:59
Just left a great GFE. #829 at Sauna in 818 Zhangyang Lu in Pudong. The usual Sauna methodology up to a nice line up of 6 all good looking talent. ...... The message is this. You just might get more really enjoyable GFE if you show a little more interest in her needs, then good things might happen.....
....Now a question. At Yiyuan Club, can you bargain or does that cost you in the long run?
Thanks!

Does anybody have an idea on the damage at Yiyuan Club?

WinteRain
10-03-07, 19:19
After the massage I went to the sitting area to catch some sleep when this quite sexy young lady came over to offer me foot massage, and of course it ends up massaging your di-di. Anyway that was pretty good to cuz the girls are much better looking than the massage girls.

This is my first report, so if what I've said here have already been mentioned, sorry.Heya,

So what was your total bill with the foot massage?

Albert Punter
10-03-07, 20:33
Apparently you cannot receive PM.
Therefore, I cannot help my friend.

Anyhow, address has been posted many times, even recently.



...
Now, I would like to find the Pub. Any assistance?

Smorb 27
10-04-07, 04:35
After the massage I went to the sitting area to catch some sleep when this quite sexy young lady came over to offer me foot massage, and of course it ends up massaging your di-di. Anyway that was pretty good to cuz the girls are much better looking than the massage girls.How much is the foot massage? Can you only go for the foot massage? By the way theres an English map and a Taxi printout with Chinese characters for Shanghai Hotel here (http://www.smartshanghai.com/venue/2873/Shanghai-Hotel_shanghai)

Acejack
10-04-07, 05:07
Has anybody been to Malones of late.

It used to be really good fun with a mix of pros, semi pros and local girls ready to dance to the live music. This place was really pumping come around 10.30 almost every weekend night.

Last few times there have been a real let down and wanted to know if any one had the same or different experience.

Happy mongering!!

One Wing Low
10-04-07, 06:58
Any bro wanna hang out?

John Euro
10-04-07, 07:53
The guyís that drove me from the airport to the Royal Meridien hotel called it a day, cancelled the meeting and I had some unexpected hours free, bingo!

Blacklisted suggested me to take a 15min ride cab, I could read between his lines that the cab ride must be to the famous Shanghai hotel sauna and thatís what I did. (thanks Mate)

It took 45 min before I could get a cab and the ride took 20 min in the SH traffic jungle.

The cab dropped me off in front of the open glass doors and I took the escalator to the second floor, entered an entrance decorated with flowers and ribbons and ended up in a meeting room full with guests, I realised having made the same mistake as other guys on this forum, so back down to the lobby and took the elevator just past the front desk on the left till the 2e floor.

Papasan guided me to the lockers, very nice and clean and some helpful boys to help you undress, they guided me to the shower but I declined there help to wash me up, I wanted to go straight to the hot tub but a strong guy with only his shorts on blocked my way, forcing me to get first a body scrub, when having a body scrub with salt or cream you donít see what comes off the skin but with this dry scrub that was very nicely done, the guy showed me rollís of dead skin that came off, I have to sign for a 70 yuan bill off course as this is part of the business, I declined the pedi- and manicures and opted directly to the transit room for the towel to pyjama change

Going trough a labyrinth of aisles till a desk with a few girls, I showed my locker nr and was guided to a room with the line up of about 15/20 girls, Even after many years of Asian mongering I always feel again like a kid in a candy store when standing in front of these girls. So I started looking first to the right wall, could not believe my eyes, what a bunch of bikini beauties, I know already that the chose was going to be difficult, at the smaller wall in the front of me there was only one girl standing that gave me a good eye contact and I was lost, this was just what I had in mind, a tall beauty with all assets proportional and a nice rack. Or was it maybe here number that have catches my eye and if she was going to do where here # 69 stands for, fine with me. When going to the room with here I remembered partly a positive report on 69 from another member few weeks ago, couldnít go wrong now.

She undressed in front off me, WOW, what a stunner, with nice firm tits and tinny dark nipples and a black landing strip below, if not a 10, at least a 9. 5 in my Asian book.

She as been going with me trough the whole menu of tings I like and it was feeling again like the first time, going from a whole body cat bath, Ice & fire, taking all my fingers an toes in here mouth till liking and tongue rimming my little hole. When the turn around sign came I thought she would now going for BBBJ but not, surprisingly she pulled a rain coat over Ď soft willy Ď and this was a bit of a turn off include the fact that I was suffering from jetlag. From that moment she as to perform and I received a great CBJ till he was hard and she started the complete red rope game. The girl took the lead during the whole game and we wend trough in different positions till the final shot, One of the best parts from this treatment is that you can watch all here handlings in wall size Mirror.

After cleaning me up she started again playing with my nipples and willy and good GFE but I was to tired for a second pop. Finally trough the hot tub and lockers and paid the bill for another 50min waiting for a cab in rainy SH.

Price 720 include the 70 for scrub
Girl : 9.5
Treatment : 10
Place : 10
Advice from the SH forum brothers : 10

John Euro

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John Euro
10-04-07, 07:54
Arrived late evening in the hotel, to tired to go out to the SH sauna again or other BBS and I was only looking for a good massage and not specially for some extras, but you never now whatís on the menu or on offer.

Headed to the hotel Spa for using the sauna and steam and a good massage afterwards. I was guided to a massage room by a boy and girl, received in a separate bathroom a bathrobe en slippers include plastic throwaway underwear (not a good sign).

When I moved to the massage table the girl left and the guy was staying, I told him a wanted a lady massage only, he told me, " forbidden " what? , yes sir, " forbidden by management. ", he said: massage for men only by men and for lady only by lady, and that was it

I was disappointed and did not go back, just accepted the treatment that was only an luxury average one.

This 5 star Spa is for 101% a real straight one with zero tolerance on extras, they even donít give the client the chance to ask for something by keeping the girl s away from the male clients.

John Euro

Eaglestar
10-04-07, 09:08
Zapatas on Wed night Oct 10 - they still have 'ladies night' in Zapatas on Wed nights I assume?

So many Chinese girls in Zapatas looking for a western guy - not to be missed.

Zapatas ladies night on Wednesday still rocks. There last week and it was unbelievably crowded with ladies.

ES

Ace Gallant
10-04-07, 10:30
Apparently you cannot receive PM.
Therefore, I cannot help my friend.

Anyhow, address has been posted many times, even recently.

Lazy guys who does not want make the effort to do a search or RTFF is not worth helping.

A lot of member spent lots of time writting good reports and all these efforts will be wasted.

Enjoy!
AG

BionicMan
10-04-07, 18:49
Have been taken out tonight by some local friends to a "wild KTV", at least so it was described before hand.
Still nothing much to be expcted if not that the girls were easy in getting topless.
Kissing was a no-no, free hand browsing on the upper parts, inclusing nipple playing, nearly no approach to the lower parts.
This even when the 2 girls I had (one,25, barely speak english, the second, 20 no english at all), became wild and started to undress me complete (much for the fun of my friends too! lol) and played and teased my willy.
But still then, whilst pretending to ride me cowboy front and rear, the action was more simulation than else.
Enough to get you "nervous".
Girls were 7 to 8 in body, 6-7 in generic attitude, a 4 in sex (if we can call that sex!). Not shaved.
So after sometime it was all over and seen that any effort was useless, I gave up.
Certainly no goods to take back home.
When mama-san appeared they seemed to pay more attention and play a bit the GFE (but jut a bit).
Not sufficient to convince me for a takeaway.
Location of the place: a side road of Kai Xuan Rd.
You'd never put a penny when you see the entrance as dark, no tilluminated. Only the usual yellow sign with red chinese writing indicating something at 3rd floor.
Once in, a middle type of ktv with some 30-40 girls in the main area.
My pick was at the first line up of 5. Knowing not much was to be expected I just chose by some possible english speaking and cute face (see picture)
A second joined - mama-san choice - once I expressed concern on my choice. That was a bit more active, but nothing special.
Let's say it is in the middle-low average of the KTV performances.
Definetely a no-repeat location.
More is on the program tomorrow, so better save the energies for red rope.

Lamalavida
10-05-07, 03:14
I found the pub and dropped in. I must say that the girls are not that shabby in the looks department. I settled for a BJ for 300 RMB. It was a nice experience and given enthusiastically. I rarely go for BBBJ, but before I knew it the gal had me on the couch and was working it. I think I might return and go for the full service, maybe with two girls at once.

I also strolled around the area and it appears to me that there are some options in this radius. I came across a barber shop with some nice looking gals chilling out on the couch. I walked in yesterday with no intention of getting service but just to ask about price. 400RMB for full service. Might return today.

Dragon D
10-05-07, 05:46
Heya all,

Been a while. Thought I would report that Jiyuan 3 just opened a little while ago. It is on Wuzhong road just past guilin road heading towards 500 wuzhong. Haven't been in there myself but have heard great reviews. If any you guys get a chance go check it out.

Cheers

WinteRain
10-05-07, 07:12
Was bored of the usual stuff, decided to check out the prior list of places given to me by MK. Decided to go for the nearer establishment within walking distance, Peacock Massage. Took a little while before I found the road.

Peacock massage is located along the North side of Xie Tu Road, on the west side of Da Mu Qiao Road. 斜土路, 大木桥路.

The place from the outside, looked like a higher end foot massage parlor. I walked in, and told the receptionist I wanted a massage, she asked which one. I looked at the "menu" and for a moment forgot which one was the right one, so I picked the $398 one. As we were walking down, she said that $398 one is 2 masseuse, I quickly asked her if there's a $298 one, and she said yes, that is one masseuse. Being new to the place, I decided to go for the one masseuse option instead.

I was led down to the basement, past the foot massage people on the first floor. Basement looked more like the special kind of place, and to be honest, I found the experience so far quite exciting.

The private room had 1 private shower, 2 massage beds. Room was clean, but you could hear the clients in adjacent rooms chatting, and the massage "hitting" sounds.

Shortly after the attendant finished laying the massage bed and after a shower, my masseuse came in. She was a very adorable chubby little girl, named Luo Yan, from Chengdu. Her number is #29 if you want to find her.

Throughout the VERY relaxing oil massage, she mentioned that she has some regular caucasian guys, some very good looking, who only ask for her. (Might be one of you guys?). Anyway, the massage was very well executed, better than the blind man crap which basically left bruises all over my body.

The prostate massage was a very new experience for me. It felt nothing like anything I've done before. If you've never tried it, you really should. Because the feeling is up there along with BBBJ, only, different.

At the end, she gave a slippery happy ending with some nipple tickling, and we were done. Shower, chat, exchanged numbers, tip, departure.

Note: She was dressed throughout the entire session, this place is kinda like a cross between the clean and dirty places. Clean as in literally the entire service is clean and legit, only the handling of the "bottom" area leaves a little gray area. :)

Unlike what MK had mentioned in his recommendation, there was zero mouth contact at all. All hands.

Damage: $298
Location: 1449 Xie Tu Road. West of Da Mu Qiao Road. (Look at the road signs to get the bearings.)

They also have 4 branches throughout Shanghai.

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Zik Zik
10-05-07, 11:52
The word on the street is that Yu Ping is closed.To all you fans. The new adress is Tian Yao Qiao Lu 999. This is on tian yao qiao lu's south part near Long Hua metro station. The place was under construction last week but they promissed it will open on October. No specific date. If any one can verify its open it will be nice!

Have fun

Astrong
10-05-07, 13:26
Hello guys, I have a question, I fucked a girl from a bbs and after the fs I saw a blood on my condom, just wondering if anybody has an idea what this is? Tnx!

JPF
10-05-07, 14:11
I checked out the 118RMB massage joint off Wanhangdu Lu (see earlier message for detailed directions) and have to say that I wasn't impressed.

The massage was good but incomplete. I asked for and paid for the 90 minutes but it was only about 60 and stopped at my butt. No legs, arms, feet, or head. Ball massage was okay but somewhat rough and the HJ had no finese at all.

One good note: I didn't see any cockroaches.

Bonzo1
10-05-07, 21:42
Hello guys, I have a question, I fucked a girl from a bbs and after the fs I saw a blood on my condom, just wondering if anybody has an idea what this is? Tnx!That's either the beginning or the end of her period. Nothing to worry about (especially if you used a condom - it's no more or less dangerous than condom sex when the girl is not "on the rag").

Weelock
10-06-07, 00:56
That's either the beginning or the end of her period. Nothing to worry about (especially if you used a condom - it's no more or less dangerous than condom sex when the girl is not "on the rag").

Something similar happened to me twice. One time after the girl left I turned on all the lights, I saw a few spots of blood on the top of the sheets. I didn't care too much because I was going to sleep under those sheets. When checking-out, something was wrong and the hotel wanted about 40RMB. WTF and I didnít know why? I went back up to my room and she pointed at the bloody sheets. I went ahead and quickly washed the sheets.

The second time, I saw blood spots again I told her to stop. I thought she was on her period and she also saw the blood on the sheets. I did not want to touch any of the blood and then the problem of washing them if it got really bad. I complained to the mamasan the next day. The girls said I was real big. I said for real, NO way? ( bu shi ). It was just an excuse.

Fritobugger
10-06-07, 03:40
I went to a KTV place frequented by the Japanese a couple of weeks ago called Proudia on Nanjing Xi Lu. Great place. The gals change into an oxford style business shirt and panties. Lots of fun touching.

Then the cops raided the place. None of the men got hassled. We took our time, collected our stuff and left but all the girls got taken into one room.

We learned later that they were not charged but lectured.

Three years in Shanghai and the first raid I have seen.

Brannoch
10-06-07, 04:29
I am a white middle-aged man, coming to China a few times a year for business. No Mandarin. When walking alone in Chinese towns in the weekend, I am regularly approached by girls that "want to practise their English", and then try to sell me paintings, calligraphy, what not.

As it is quite lonely, I talk with them. I simply refuse to buy anything when this comes up, and that is the end of the conversation. It is a way to talk to somebody.

Last weekend I was stuck in Shanghai, alone. Around noon I visited downtown, and walked Nanjing road. A woman comes to me, and asks if she can walk with me and "practice her english". Fine, ok. She is plain-looking and dressed normally, nothing fancy. She pretends she is a nurse, and maybe she is. I wonder what she will try to sell me. She has a friend that also wants to "practice her english", and asks if she can call her to join us. Fine, ok. The friend happens to be a quite good looking girl, with reasonable english. So much the better. We walk and chat, and we flirt a little. Entertaining. I now assume they want me to buy them lunch or so, which is fine with me.

Then they point to a door, and propose to go inside and have a drink. Now I know what it is. It is the classical scam. If I get into that establishment, I will end up with an enormous bill for drinks I did not order. I refuse to go in. I tell them I am ok to buy then a coffee or tea, but I will pick the place. To my astonishment, they agree. Maybe I am wrong, it is not the classical scam, but just two women willing to spend some time with me, if I pay expenses. Fine with me.

We walk on, they flirt a little bit. I like it.

I see a sign for coffee - I want coffee, I do not drink alcohol during the day normally. I point to it. We go in. It is a new place. First floor. They talk to the waiter, and we go and sit down in a secluded place. They order. I get coffee, they have tea. We talk, flirt, the pretty one hugs me, saying she would like to spend some time with me, each time I am in Shanghai, but I should buy her a present, nothing really expensive. Sounds like a deal to me. It is really a nice afternoon.

Then a plate of fruit arrives that I did not order. Well, ok. Who would grudge two nice ladies a plate of fruit? And it is good fruit too, I am also hungry, so this is ok.

Somewhat later a round of drinks arrive. A bridge too far. Although I really would like to continue to spend time with the girls, I tell them I did not order this stuff, and will leave the place now. I of course have to settle the bill first - way too expensive. When we get out, I separate from the girls. Reluctantly, they were quite nice.

How did I fall for the scam?
- The first woman to approach me was plain-looking, so no suspicion was raised.
- I thought I was safe because I picked the establishment. I still wonder how this went wrong. Was I unlucky in the place I picked? Or do most places in that area cooperate in such a scam? Anybody knows?

All in all, it was a pleasurable time. Much too expensive alas, and nobody likes being scammed. But is was pleasurable. If such a service would be available at a reasonable cost that is clear upfront, and without drinks I do not want being forced on me, I would gladly spend some money to flirt with a woman on a lonely afternoon. Pity this service is only organized as a scam, as far as I know. Maybe a hole in the market.

Brannoch

Blackjai
10-06-07, 05:58
How much is the foot massage? Can you only go for the foot massage? By the way theres an English map and a Taxi printout with Chinese characters for Shanghai Hotel here (http://www.smartshanghai.com/venue/2873/Shanghai-Hotel_shanghai)Yes you can go in just for a foot massage but there's a minimum charge of 550 rmb so that's at least 2 hours worth of foot massage and then some if I remember correctly.

Blackjai
10-06-07, 06:02
Heya,

So what was your total bill with the foot massage?I can't be too sure about the exact amount, cuz i've already forgotten how much i end up paying, but it will be in the ball park of 900 rmb with the normal massage + 2 hrs of foot massage (get discount on foot massage if you did the massage before). and remember you have to leave the place before 7pm or else it will be more expensive since it will be peak hour.

also beside the foot massage, some of you might be interested in getting your ears clean as well, while you sit in the resting area, sometimes there are these quite pretty girls in qi-pao that will come by to offer cleaning your ears, they'll sit pretty much on you, and you can touch her up and down in the process.. quite nice if you don't want to 'shoot' again.

Phil1980
10-06-07, 06:03
That's either the beginning or the end of her period. Nothing to worry about (especially if you used a condom - it's no more or less dangerous than condom sex when the girl is not "on the rag").


I wouldn't be so sure, could also be sign of a disease like cervical cancer etc.

Bonzo1
10-06-07, 06:41
I wouldn't be so sure, could also be sign of a disease like cervical cancer etc.There are other possibilities of course, but the period is by far the most likely (like 99%+ chance). In any case it's always good to point this out to a girl (or any other problems you might notice down there) since she might need to get examined.

John Euro
10-06-07, 08:19
After being a few days away from Shanghai and arriving late evening again at the Le Meridien hotel, I didnít want to go far away by taxi after a flight and a heavy day, dropping my gear in the room, changed cloths and out for a massage and maybe bit of fun. I have had seen already the Joy massage sign on the street outside the hotel after the information from our member World Guy SH (thanks Mate) and I would try it out now.

When walking outside the Le Meridien Hotel L. Lobby, 45į on yr RH is the sign, cross the street towards the sign, walk left for 200m, take the 1e street on your right and after 400m at the corner is "see market "- joy massage is left next to it, easy to find. A wide open door with a long aisle with massage rooms in the back, so no elevator to suspicious area, was looking like a safe place to me.

The 2 very friendly girls at the entrance showed me a price list in English and I chose for a oil massage at 328RMB, A nice average girl that spoke a bit English guided me to the room, The room was ok for me equipped with two stretchers with clean sheets, what means that you can go there as a couple in the same room, looks legitimate, 2 set of chrome bars on the ceiling to use for a back walk or maybe red rope acrobatic show, who knows?

I did not put the shorts on and laid face down on the stretcher, buttock in the air, will see, the girl came back in the room and did not said anything or did not row a towel over my naked body, good sign.

The massage was excellent, good strong Swedish comparable massage on my back include good work on my bud cheeks with my legs wide open, she made me horny already that way.

When turn around came, even not throwing a towel over my body and Mr. Willy was up in the air of course. She started massaging my belly and upper thigh and my whole groin area with a occasionally touch on my balls and the hard one. The important question came up:

She: do you want to stay one hour longer.

Me: no because itís already 23. 30,

She: maybe half hour?

Me: no, going to try o find some food and pointed at he clock on the wall, but we can do tomorrow

She: I can com to your room in the hotel also.

Me: OK for me, can do tomorrow, give me a card with yr name and yr nr.

I showed here a great interest in this option, asked here to give me just a HJ now, asking how much it would cost, give me a good tip she said, told here 100 rmb but this was waved away, I didnít react for a wile and she continued with the massage, told here the best rate was 200 max and no much reaction from the female side, I received a great body treatment and good GFE include a small conversation but Mr. Ď willy Ď was getting soft due to lack of attention and finally she told me the massage was over.

I thought, again one of these girls that make you hot and hen send you home for self service, no way, I told here she forgot the HJ, gave me a big smile and she said tomorrow, told here, no must do it now and tomorrow we go for the big game. She started nicely to massage the whole groin area and ballís to give me a new hard one again and the stroking came only when I had a full erection, this was just excellently done, no rush. It was not a Bangkok girl HJ but appreciated the way she did it.

After the clean up she helped me to get dressed, paid the 200RM and out of the room to pay the bill, between some rooms at the front was a entrance to a big lady hairdressing shop where I paid the bill to mamasan at the front desk, she told me the girls could come to the hotel room also?

Me: in Le Meridien, no way?

She: Yes no problem, we can do (must say, I have seen many men picking up a girl from the elevator area at the upper lobby, so itís GF)

I left a bit off change to my girl #66 while other girls have seen it, another girl guided me to the exit and told me that she would come to my room tomorrow.

The day after, I arrived only at midnight at the hotel due to a late Chinese drinking dinner and I had to catch a early flight in the morning, I could forget the girls room visit due to the drinks and lack of sleep. I only can recommend this place for great massage, looks like they have some other options also.

Not, What a bunch of toots on the street at midnight, even stunning looking girls trying to get you to another (ripp-off) place but thanks to RTFF, no way for me.

John Euro

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Wujohn
10-06-07, 10:38
Blacklisted suggested me to take a 15min ride cab, I could read between his lines that the cab ride must be to the famous Shanghai hotel sauna and thatís what I did. (thanks Mate)

It took 45 min before I could get a cab and the ride took 20 min in the SH traffic jungle.Sorry. I looked through the last few posts and couldn't find which place exactly you are referring to. My apologies. Please don't flame me for not RTFF. Please let me know where it is. I would like to try.

To prove sincerety, I have also been to a place on Wuyi Rd a number of times which offers a fish bowl selection followed by FS with extras like licking, covered toe fucking, hot/cold etc etc. Its down a short private alley next to a bakery walking distance from Yan An Rd. Good selection of girls, great service and reasonable prices (a bit more than you paid but not too much).

Regards,

WuJohn

Guybert56
10-06-07, 14:00
I tried this one as well but found it closed. I was there on a Saturday morning. It did not look like permanently closed. I'd like to try this in the future.

Does somebody know the opening hours?The place is in the World Plaza just north of the Nexage Mall in Pudong. This quote does not give the street name and number but Donova has it in one of his postings! THANKS DONOVA!!!

Head to the down escalators and go to B2. At the bottom of the escalator take a hard left to what looks like a smallish business behind glass. There will likely be a couple of attendants outside to guide you through the normal routine. This place is WAY simpler than some I have seen described and been to...but it was definitely a go back to place!!

After my shower and being asked about my choice of drink (in Chinese), I was soon visited by 7 very lovely ladies under tow of the mamasan. They all were dressed skimpily in pink see thru 'dresses' and red thongs and bras. They bowed in unison and I was then looking up at some real keepers! All were very passable! three were actually beautiful in whatever measurement system you use. The beauty I chose was not the most beautiful but had that 'look' spoken of so often. She had a real smile, a real rack (modest but bery nice...B) and the usual skinny caboose. She was tastefully made up and when I chose her she almost looked shocked! There were bigger boobs but they didn't have the look... Anyway, they all bowed again and left except for lovely # 5. I later learned that she was from Xian and was 24. She grabbed my hand and hand held me all the way to the modest but acceptable room.

The room was equiped with a wide massage table, a roman couch, and mirrors everywhere. No red rope. She started out the get aquainted part by grabbing MY boobs and complimenting me on them! Funny! Then she grabbed me through my shorts and was only complimentary about 'him'. No comments about being too big, etc...which I am not. She made me feel really comfprtable to be with her and gave me a full mouthed kiss before going to get her bag of stuff.

We got 'nekkid' and she began to caress me and acted like she wanted me to do the same. I started kissing her boobs and experimented with going down to see if she was a happy camper about that. LONG story short...she was VERY happy to do DATY! Such a nice buffet! Sparkling clean and lightly furry. She had brought a vibrator which she pushed into my hands to add some variety to our dining experience. After quite a while of enjoying her tingle button, I moved into position for 69 and got the best bbbj I have ever received! Amazingly good! She even liked having her caboose fingered. NICE!!

After a lot of contractions on her part, we covered up and went through several positions with her favorite with her on her back with her legs high and pulling me as deep as I could go! She also began to lavish me with DFKs and was actually a great kisser!! About 45 minutes of love making and I came. I believe she did as well but she does a highly trained piece of plumbing!! In any case, it ranks up there with my best 5 of all times!

Damages: 650 (got there before 7)
Girl's face: 9
Girl's body: 8
Girl's attitude: 10+
Surroundings: 6
Value: Best I have enjoyed so far in Shanghai

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Blackjai
10-06-07, 15:45
Earlier today, I was reading through this forum and found that someone mentioned Lily outcall in the classified of the Shanghai Daily so I decided to give it a go and see if its any good.

Anyway with my basic mandarin I told the girl that picked up the phone that I want the youngest girl that you can give me and I am not very fussed about the body, I just want a young clean girl, so the mamasan said she'll send me a 21 year old, who is relatively tall, fine, "what's the price for a oily massage? ", she then quote me 488 rmb + whatever taxi fee, which to me seems quite strange cuz I was expecting the 1000 rmb and then bargain to 700 rmb, anyway who am I to complain that its CHEAPER than what you guys said in the forum?

When the girl arrived, she was as the mamasan said, quite tall 5'6-5'7 ish face was about a 5-6, quite average, but her young age and her cute way of smiling bumps her score probably by 1 or so, anyway, it was 'do-able'. So I asked her if I need to take a shower first, she said up to me, which to me seems a bit weird already, so I said fine, what about you? She then said oh no thanks, I just took one not long ago. I was then like okkk. But I was expecting a nude shower together with her cleaning me, oh well, took shower, came out she said lie down, I said why is your clothes still on? She said oh. Did the girl on the telephone said that I was going to be nude? I said of course, or else I don't need you to be here, so she took off all her clothes including the undies which was nice.

She then gave me a really good massage, like proper massage-massage, while I played with her nice size tits and have my finger poking around her privates, which then got a polite rejection.

After the massage, I sucked on her tits for a while, and cuddled her a bit, which I think made her happier cuz it gave time for her to rest a bit, and I think she was actually enjoying me sucking on her tits cuz her nipples start sticking out really hard. Anyway she then took out a condom and started the BJ which I have to say is probably the best BJ I had with a condom on, she was constantly using her tongue and had my di-di all the way into her mouth while at the same time using her hands to massage the base of my di-di, in the end I blew the load into her mouth which put a really big smile on my face.

Total dmg in the end 600 rmb cuz I am living quite a bit far from the city in pudong so the taxi fee got a bit expensive.

So all in all I think I will do this again cuz most of the time when I go to the saunas I don't' really want fs anyway, just want to play with some tits and have my di-di in someone's mouth.

Lastly thank you all for your previous reports, that really help me find some of the finest entertainment that I have had.

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BionicMan
10-07-07, 05:12
Heya all,
Been a while. Thought I would report that Jiyuan 3 just opened a little while ago. It is on Wuzhong road just past guilin road heading towards 500 wuzhong. Haven't been in there myself but have heard great reviews. If any you guys get a chance go check it out.
Cheers

I do not know how many JY salons are in town, but I have been to one twice this week (mine has 021 62673806 as phone number, have business card but al in chinese fonts. Shall posted when scanned) brought by friends hosting me.
Damage was appr 800RMB for one hour of full soapy session, followed by catbath and the usual BBBJCIM.
First girl, #69, was nothing special (a no repeat for sure), and tried to explain that for a 450RMB she could have done a FS. I rejected as both not interested and she was quite inaccessible (no FK, no DATY, no much fingering)
Second girl, #28, has been a beter choice, allowing an idea for DATY for very short time, but again no kissing.
Certainly better skilled and nice B cup tits (looking well solid when standing and absolutely natural at the touch)
The premises are not new at all, the waiting private rooms (hosting 2 to 3 people depending on the party) are essential and bit worn out.
While waiting you are offered a legitimate foot massage.
Took it the first night. Quite well done, but forget about any chance of turning it into a more kinky massage as a warm up. The girl is not up to it, even if, maybe..... she seemed opened to something, maybe privately on outcall?, as lots of deep eye contact.

The procedure is the usual, a bit of a waiting time in the private room, then when the action rooms are free (supposedlty there are 60), you are directed to a small room where some 8 girls are lined up. Quick choice and off the the job.
The girls take you to the room, you undress, she disapppears for a few minutes to pick up glasses of warm water, soap and ice.
Showering you while you sit on the "special" stool allowing ass rimming, then off to the watrer mattress where the soapy goes on for some 10 minutes.
Another wash, then off to the dry bed for complete catbath. Turn over and after some browsing she heads to your willy nad starts a BBBJ.
Quality of #69 was so-so, and #28's was better.
A bit less mechanical even if the whole session seems following too much a scheduled and time script.
When we finished some 5 minutes earlier the girl did not want me to leafve but insisted on spending the 60 min. there (doing nothing!), so she would not have problems with mama-san for poor service.
Language barrier for foreigners is a big problem.
One girl spoke 5 words of english, the other's vocabulary was limited to OK.
Said to be the best japanese styled soap massage in town. (not sure about it)

Missing the red rope experience as the establishemnt we planned to go (in a Motel 168 buliding) was closed.
Probably to mantain a bit of decency to the building, since the Motel hosted lots of guess for the Special Olympics.

Let's see what my hosts have in mind for me tonight and if worth another report to follow.
As long as the announced typhoon does not jam the streets of Shangai.

Frank0101
10-07-07, 11:32
Met a great nice Philipina in Tong Ren Lu. Slim, be cup, shaved, 165cm. Very gf and cute. Did kissing and she seems to have fun too; looks like no fake enthusiasim. She is living close to the bund. She is also clean; BJ without see but fucking only with and no ass rim. Ok for me. But still very flexible; likes all positions. Try her out. Night 1000; short term 800. Ok for the great service.

Have fun; call her; number above; and then please report.

Be nice and friendly to her. She is too.

[Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

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Parasitius
10-07-07, 13:56
Just an update on the Tomson 汤姆生 Sauna (4th floor of the Jin Yu Lan Plaza on the south east side of the Xu Jia Hui Lu and Da Pu Lu junction) that was mentioned a while back. It was my first experience at a Shanghai sauna, I previously had opted only for 299kuai sauna deals in small cities like Jinan. I specifically went because it was mentioned that there is nude dancing in the fishbowl -- I saw no such thing and was a bit disappointed. There is however a fishbowl from which you can pick, and I was happy to see that as previously I had been to places where you can see only one girl at a time. I was annoyed because I had only 4 to chose from when I went in but there were like 10 when I came out! I did get one that was an solid 8 with a rockin' body though, so, still can't complain. BBBJ, licking all over, kissing... the main thing inferior to the 299kuai places I have been is they didn't see to have a "set list" of like 20 items the girl must do. Still it was pretty good and I'd go back for sure. One piece of misinformation is that you have to be out before 6pm to get the 600kuai deal, actually if you check IN before 6pm it will be 600 kuai. I guess 700 after.

Hallo
10-08-07, 07:23
[QUOTE=Guybert56]The place is in the World Plaza just north of the Nexage Mall in Pudong. This quote does not give the street name and number but Donova has it in one of his postings! THANKS DONOVA!!!

Head to the down escalators and go to B2. At the bottom of the escalator take a hard left to what looks like a smallish business behind glass. There will likely be a couple of attendants outside to guide you through the normal routine. This place is WAY simpler than some I have seen described and been to...but it was definitely a go back to place!!

[QUOTE]


This really is a nice place. You will find it here http://www.china-tour.cn/images/news/1538-1.gif

Dongchan rd, exit 3. Throu a long hallway. Had nice service, an at exit they handed me a membercard. #8659 is now hallo. Going again tonight, news to come.

John Euro
10-08-07, 10:27
Hi Wujohn

I was referring to the famous Shanghai Sauna of course ,a lot of feed back on this board . There are some large hotels in the same are Ė Hilton, Equitorial etc.
If you go on this Asia agent websites for the Shanghai hotel ,
http://www.asiarooms.com/china/shan...el-gallery.html

Look at the bottom, the address is written in Chinese in a frame, print it and cut it out and show it to the taxi driver, no problem it works fine. I am back in Shanghai this week, will see if time enough to try out your spot,

Thanks, have fun

John Euro

Guybert56
10-08-07, 13:51
first, they have a new nameÖsacrosa nct essence sauna. it is still found by walking north past nextage mall on pudong lu and turning right into the very first alley way before you get to the wagas restaurant. walk in about 50 meters and bear left where you will see the ramen noodle shop on the left. if you pass the ubc coffee shop on the right, you have gone too far. the back entrance to the new mall where wagas is located is directly across from the elevator entrance. the building number is 1085, 5/f and the phone is listed as 58352261. happy hunting.

this was my second visit and was early afternoon. i was quickly ushered to the showers and after was asked if i wanted a massage. since i said yes, they asked what i would like to drink and took me directly to a room full of lovelies! didnít count but think there were 10 or 11 in all in pretty transparent pink skirts and tops. i chose based on eye contact and smile (the look) and chose #379, an early 20ís girl from harbin. she was one of the cutest working girls i have ever seen with a knockout smile, cute dimples, great eye contact, even greater attitude, and a slender body.

she began with a really nice modest (me covered with a towel and she fully clothed) massage. she was so cute when she expertly bent over exposing her bum to the mirror so i could lust! she almost never took her eyes off me, enjoying me, enjoying her! she complained about the heat so i suggested she get more comfortable and she playfully slapped me and peeled. man was she cute!!! her a cups had nips that could put your eye out! she apologized for being so small! i told her that was the way i like themÖ and her caboose was actually much better shaped than usual. she had nice make up and smelled like a flower! everywhere!

long story shortÖi basically bypassed the ice and hot water routine as this isnít something i get that much from and went directly to caressing her all over. she eagerly allowed daty and helped guide me to all the right places. as i really enjoy oral as much as anything, she was only happy to accept. after many minutes and she getting really wet, she went down on me but didnít rush it doing an ice cream lick for a couple of minutes before really going for the kill. i suggested 69 and she jumped at that. covered up and went through a lot of positions. tight as can be but never complained about my sizeÖagain, justifiably. forgot to mention!! she was a great kisser and enjoyed dfk even after i was daty. she was a complete turn on!

i get kinda tired of the gfe references but could easily see her as a gf!! naughty but oh so nice! i took her picture but somehow lost the software to download the photo. naturally the cell phone pix are not up to real life but i will enjoy looking at her pictureÖ

damages: 550 what a bargain! i got there at about 2.
girl selection: 6-9
#379: 9 face, 8 body (small chest), 10 attitudeÖsolid 9!!
attendants: 8 nice and helpful!
surroundings: 8 (would score a solid 9 with wider bed, which was actually a massage table.) nice mirrors!! clean!!

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Long Slong
10-08-07, 15:02
This is an excerpt from WSG - thanks to basfer there for the idea of using QQ and here is my report:

Hello guys, just want to let you know that you do not have to download and install QQ, you can run the search from the website and then just took the advice for looking at the ****iest and you can also tell this by the sort of message they posts like "I am waiting for you" "I am so lonely" etc. you get the drift.

Anyways, I came across http://love.qq.com/cgi-bin/userinfo?userid=317801024 and I went for it, she has since removed her cellphone number so PM me if you would like to have it.

Anyways, I gave the number a call, she picked up, gave me her address, I took a cab over, not much bargaining, the price is pretty standard RMB300 for the works and I folk out another RMB150 for a second short.

Was initially disappointed because the girl who answered look nothing like the photo, anyways, jumping ahead, I later met her friend who is staying in the other room that looked like that thou I am sure the photo she posted must have been photoshop real good. Anyways, good news if you want to bring a friend along, there are 2 private rooms, or you can go for both of them for RMB600 but you get to come twice.

Very friendly. What you get is a nice tongue job on your back, working up and down, with her mouthful of warm water, and she makes this slurping noise as she sucks on your back, it is hard to discribe the feeling but it was awesome, you can also feel her breasts against yours.

Anyways, after that she use some alcohol wipes to clean my bottom and proceed with giving me a good leak on my backside including pushing down with her tongue into my b*tthole, anyways, my first time really and it felt kind weird but nice, hope that is not a sign that I am gay haha eeks!

Anyways once that is over, she asked me to turn around and asked if I wanted a BBBJ or CBJ, I opted for the CBJ, not comfortable with a girl doing BBBJ until I really get to know her.

Anyways, she did such a great job I blew my load in her mouth. And she kept sucking on it and some how managed to keep my di di hard, she gave it a good clean with some wipes and then cap it and went cowboy on me till I blew a second time.

I would I rate it?

Will if the girl you see on the photo is a 10/10 then she was a 6/10 but she does make up for it with her skills. Boobs bigger than your average Shanghai girl, clean looking pussy, she doesn't speak a word of english and has never done any lao-wai but I have asked and she doesn't mind me introducing her here.

Will definitely go back for a threesome one of these days. Oh she stays in above average apartment block, good and clean apartment, not new but clean. On the 26th floor, a couple of block away from subway line #3 station Jin Sha Jiang.

Thanks again for the idea with QQ Basfer.

Total Damage RMB450 got to fire my gun twice. Cab ride from my apartment to hers RMB33, on my return trip I took a cab to the Metro RMB11 and then RMB4 for the Metro to my place. Sweet as!

Additional Comment: Oh and this isn't bad for being in Shanghai, the place I went to near the Swissotel in KunShan costs me RMB498, so considering the price it ain't bad, not rush, just let you take your time, ask if you need to rest between shots, it is just my style to get my job done and leave, I do not want to get too much involve with them, if I had wanted to I am sure I could stay.

Oh yeah forgot to add this, was told it would be RMB800 if I stay overnight at her place from 10pm to 8am next day, RMB600 if I checked in after midnight to 8am. No limits, can fire your weapon as often as you can managed. Good clean bathroom for you to wash up after too!

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Peterterb
10-08-07, 15:48
There's a typhoon blasting Shanghai today so instead of venturing out I decided to try out the in-house massage options at the Purple Mountain Hotel.

First I checked out the "Sauna and Massage" place on the 4th floor, I asked the young man who was on duty about the massage and he says "108 RMB, nice massage. By man, not lady". Thanks buddy but that is no bargain. I passed.

Next I tried the "Foot Massage" place on the 5th floor. There were two lovely young ladies on duty, and I asked a series of open-ended questions to try and determine if "extras" were available. They never gave me a straight answer but I figured the worst case scenario was I get a nice rub but no tug. And that's exactly what happened. 21-year old, cute-as-a-button Lucy followed me up to my room, but when I emerged naked from the bathroom she averted her eyes and quickly covered my private parts with a towel.

She gave me a nice 45 minute oil massage but when time was up and I asked her what else was on the menu, she said "no more" and I knew it was over. I paid Lucy 250 and thanked her for a job well done.

Oh well, the weatherman says the typhoon will be gone in 36 hours.

Cocoon
10-09-07, 03:18
Long Slong,

I only tried one other search, and the same picture came up for a totally different City.

There can only be one explanation: she's a clone!

McDonald's has gone from selling meat to selling flesh.

To ensure consistency of quality, they are now cloning service providers.

They all go through the same Golden Arsch University, so that's why there seems to be a set routine involving identical tongue bath, hot / cold slurping, rimming etc.

To give you the illusion of choice, Hamburger/Big Mac/Quarter Pounder wise,
you can choose a Small, Medium or Large girl.

And of course, the burger you get never looks as good as the one on the poster.

One Wing Low
10-09-07, 06:14
I am at the Shanghai hotel. Only staying 1 night on my way to Beijing.

Would appreciate a quick orientation tour with any bro in town.

PM me for my mobile number. Let's hook up and have some fun. Will buy you a few drinks.

Mr Fork
10-09-07, 10:26
So I went to the Shanghai Hotel 2/F yesterday, at around 1pm.

It was "OK". Standard routine, clothes off, bath area, shower, pretty much forced into having a back scrub, then into a room of 10 girls. Can't say the quality's all that good (of course YMMV), all 5 to 6, with a couple of real shockers (2 on the scale). One had a, er, really hilarious lazy-eye, and another girl looked like she hadn't slept for four days, with huge bags under her eyes. WTF. Picked a petite girl with good eye contact, 6 face 7 body, quite cute and enthusiastic, then off to the room, pretty standard routine of catbath, BBBJ, red rope, thought it was just a little mechanical, and a bit too fast and sloppily done. One pop, I wasn't really turned on enough by the girl so I couldn't get into it for a second pop, although I think that option was open. The whole thing took about 75-80 mins. Went out, took shower, sat in the resting area for a while, had some tea, when an absolutely stunning girl (8 face 8 body) asked if I wanted to have my ears picked. Damn I wish she was available in the line-up. Declined the offer. Picked up the bill: 650 + 70 for scrub = 720 RMB. Worth it? Well... can't say I was overly impressed. So far I've tried Bo Duo, Tomson's and now SH hotel. I think Bo Duo's pretty good. Maybe I'll give Ji Yuan III (Wuzhong / Guilin Road) a shot some time.

Peterterb
10-09-07, 12:47
If you enjoy nice scenery with your dinner, you'll enjoy Hooters in Shanghai. I sure did ! There are two Hooters restaurants in Shanghai. This is the one in the Super Brand Mall, next door to the Shangri-La Hotel on the Pudong side of the river. Gorgeous, friendly, chatty girls, they sing and dance every 15 minutes or so. They even spent time with that ugly old fart in the photos.

Charles Branson
10-09-07, 16:15
I am at the Shanghai hotel. Only staying 1 night on my way to Beijing.

Would appreciate a quick orientation tour with any bro in town.

PM me for my mobile number. Let's hook up and have some fun. Will buy you a few drinks.It's 11 pm and I am looking to go out. I live near the Shanghai Hotel as well.

But, I can't pm.

JustDoIt
10-09-07, 17:39
I have been a regular customer of Ji Yuan and have been please with their service. I have also visit Ji Yuan 3 and have purchased their membership card. However on Monday night, I was very upset with JY3 and will never return JY3 again. The service was as usual. As I was leaving with my friend, the customer in front was getting ready to pay. The male attendant was asking if they have membership so they can get the discounted price and they had informed him they had forget the card. As I was paying, the lady asked if I have the membership. I gave my card to her and she took the card to get an imprint. At the point, the male attendant informed the other customer not to worry, to bring the card next time and he used my card to get the imprint for their discount. I had informed the male attendant I was very upset that he had done this. Iím not a greedy person, but I felt as though I was cheated. Iím an ABC and I do speak mandarin fluently. It was 1am and I didnít bother to continue to argue. However, I will never return to JY3 as I feel they donít treat their customer with respect, especially for people who had purchased their membership. It might seem to them only 2 customers lost but I have introduced many friends to JY and JY3.

JustDoIt
10-09-07, 18:01
Why on earth would you be bothered by this? It doesn't seem that it would harm you in any way, and you did another monger a favor. It also makes you look like an even more frequent visitor, which could only help your status. I don't get it...

GM

GM

Itís a matter of principle. 1.) The male attendant never asked me if it was ok. 2) The other monger wasnít even aware. The male attendant had passed the check to my lady and got her to get my imprint.

I don't get an upgrade of service or any other special treatment with the membership. It's only a discount from the full price.

Traveler1234
10-09-07, 18:47
If you enjoy nice scenery with your dinner, you'll enjoy Hooters in Shanghai. I sure did ! There are two Hooters restaurants in Shanghai. This is the one in the Super Brand Mall, next door to the Shangri-La Hotel on the Pudong side of the river. Gorgeous, friendly, chatty girls, they sing and dance every 15 minutes or so. They even spent time with that ugly old fart in the photos.

If that 'old fart' is you, it's up to you whether you want to circulate on this board. If it is a third party, strongly urge you to delete this post.....unless he specifically agreed to posting here.

Albert Punter
10-09-07, 20:12
... was posted by me some days ago.
Just scroll down some pages and you will find it.



...
If you go on this Asia agent websites for the Shanghai hotel ,
http://www.asiarooms.com/china/shan...el-gallery.html

Look at the bottom, the address is written in Chinese in a frame, print it and cut it out and show it to the taxi driver, ...
John Euro


P.S. A few nights ago I went to the venue again and tried #06, Li Jia, 23 yo, from Wuhan. Good attitude and GFE and service, even though BJ was covered :-<

Gualtier Malde
10-09-07, 20:52
GM

Itís a matter of principle. 1.) The male attendant never asked me if it was ok. 2) The other monger wasnít even aware. The male attendant had passed the check to my lady and got her to get my imprint.

I don't get an upgrade of service or any other special treatment with the membership. It's only a discount from the full price.

Seems to be a pretty warped sense of principle. You didn't incur any harm. They were just trying to be nice to another customer. But for some reason you go over the top and say they somehow have poor customer service and you will never visit them again. Then you post here, I presume to get the rest of the board to do the same. Sorry, but I fear all you have done is expose yourself as a jerk. In fact, I think I'll make it a point to visit that place. They sound like they have excellent customer service.

GM

Member #1983
10-10-07, 02:24
Seems to be a pretty warped sense of principle. You didn't incur any harm. They were just trying to be nice to another customer. But for some reason you go over the top and say they somehow have poor customer service and you will never visit them again. Then you post here, I presume to get the rest of the board to do the same. Sorry, but I fear all you have done is expose yourself as a jerk. In fact, I think I'll make it a point to visit that place. They sound like they have excellent customer service.

GMI do agree with GM's opinion. It's obvious that JY3 has a very flexible CS system which has the only end goal -- serve their customer as best as they can. JDI, don't be like a jerk. let's support JY3. how about getting together for a group visit? interested boddy, PM.

Bonzo1
10-10-07, 08:45
I have been a regular customer of Ji Yuan and have been please with their service. I have also visit Ji Yuan 3 and have purchased their membership card. However on Monday night, I was very upset with JY3 and will never return JY3 again. The service was as usual. As I was leaving with my friend, the customer in front was getting ready to pay. The male attendant was asking if they have membership so they can get the discounted price and they had informed him they had forget the card. As I was paying, the lady asked if I have the membership. I gave my card to her and she took the card to get an imprint. At the point, the male attendant informed the other customer not to worry, to bring the card next time and he used my card to get the imprint for their discount. I had informed the male attendant I was very upset that he had done this. Iím not a greedy person, but I felt as though I was cheated. Iím an ABC and I do speak mandarin fluently. It was 1am and I didnít bother to continue to argue. However, I will never return to JY3 as I feel they donít treat their customer with respect, especially for people who had purchased their membership. It might seem to them only 2 customers lost but I have introduced many friends to JY and JY3.

Get over it dude, for your own sake. Nothing bad happened to you at all. I guarantee you are gonna have a lot of actual bad experiences in customer service here that will require a lot of patience and maturity to resolve or otherwise accept, and some that will warrant PSA's and boycotts, but this wasn't one of them.

One Wing Low
10-10-07, 11:47
Only had 1 night in Shanghai. Was desperate trying to hook up with a few bros but they were all out of town. Suddenly Bad Boy Billy PM me to go out.

Went to Bourbon street, a very nice joint, at about 9PM. A filipino band was playing 70's music. They probably learned all that music when the GI's were stationed in the PI, searching for WMD's in Vietnam.... The noise level was very high.

Sat around sipping a beer. There were probably 10 WG's. A few immediately latched themselves onto us. They said my friend Billy goes there a lot. The girls asked for drinks. Dont know how much lady drinks cost but John's drinks are 70RMB.

One of the girls is probably late 20's, very pretty face, nice figure, smooth, light skin...I hated to say no drink to her. Would have bought her drinks if had known the price beforehand. She went away but came back leaning on me again. Asked her how much to go to the hotel. She said 1000RMB ST. She probably mixed me up with some filthily-rich big wigs. I offered her 500RMB ST but she said no, but kept leaning on me. She was very beautiful in wholesome ways. Really wanted to do her but did not wanna contribute to local inflation.

Went to Julia 2 and Manhattan, smaller bars. There were singers with keyboards. The girls here were mostly older Filipinas with only a few Chinese. They kept hitting up us for drinks. Not really my types of girls after what I've had in SZ, CP and DG. So I did all I could to avoid them.

Did find out some very interesting info from BBB. He mentioned Zapata's ladies' night on Wednesday with lots of freebies, which I would love to partake to find out how really expensive they would be. Finally decided to go back to the Shanghai Hotel for its highly-recommended sauna. Left Bad Boy Billy there for the sharks...hehehe.

Went back to Shanghai Hotel sauna and asked for a lineup. Manager said would have to take clothes off to see the girls, all 3 of them... There were 4 other guys in the changing room taking clothes off with dicks hanging...Saw 1 girl who looked very homely. Was thinking of going back to Bourbon Street to hook up with that girl but had so much beer and was very tired, so decided to go back to the room to hit the sack. Did not look forward to spending another hour negotiating with her.

Next morning did a quick tour of Shanghai and headed out to the airport. No sex was had in SH. By all accounts, the scene in BJ is fabulous. Will see.

Peterterb
10-10-07, 15:59
Just got back from a disappointing massage, this place is in Pudong, on the southwest corner of Laoshan Road and Weifang Road. Sorry I didn't catch an English name, in fact I don't think it had one. It's on the same side of the street as the KFC, and it's the first massage place south of Weifang.

I don't like to negotiate up front, I prefer the "thrill" of haggling during the massage. But in this case the girl spoke almost no English and had one of those "upsell" attitudes, so the negotiating didn't go well. We initially agreed to a 1 hour oil massage for 200 RMB but then she started the upsell. I wouldn't budge over 400 but she was demanding more. I only had 400 with me and tried to explain this but she didn't get it. At one point she reached into the locker and started digging around my pants pockets looking for my wallet. She finally asked me to get up and produce my wallet and pay up! So I gave her the cash and she went back to work. You can guess the rest. A rushed, mediocre back rub followed by a race to the finish line.

I know, I know, it's my fault for not striking a deal upfront. But I get the sense that the hard upsell is standard operating procedure at this particular place. Or maybe my approach just doesn't work in Shanghai? Anyways I would recommend passing this one by, there are about five more places within 200 meters on the same side of the street.

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JustDoIt
10-10-07, 19:12
Seems to be a pretty warped sense of principle. You didn't incur any harm. They were just trying to be nice to another customer. But for some reason you go over the top and say they somehow have poor customer service and you will never visit them again. Then you post here, I presume to get the rest of the board to do the same. Sorry, but I fear all you have done is expose yourself as a jerk. In fact, I think I'll make it a point to visit that place. They sound like they have excellent customer service.

GM

GM,

I'm not saying to boycott the place. The girls still have great service. But, the management downstairs has very poor customer service. It's two different things. The cashier makes you buy the membership for 100RMB. If they are going to give discount to everyone like that why get customer to buy the membership. Make it one price so other customers are not confused. I will still go to JY but I just prefer not to go to JY3.

WinteRain
10-11-07, 06:32
QQ's friendfinder is literally ***** central for the chinese literate. Signed up for a QQ account the other day, clicked on their 'Look for Friends' icon which led me to a long list of profiles with photos. At least 50% of the profiles lead to hookers. Don't be fooled though, the actual persons are not the girls you see on photos, no matter how convincing.

Upon adding to QQ, the person would send you a message, asking you if you need any services. Some would straight on tell you prices, and location, and phone. You're expected to go to the place, which is a residential estate, and upon arrival, give a call, and the girl will tell you which unit to go to.

Upon entering, you will exchange greetings, small talk, and then be led into a bedroom, where you will do the deed. Depending on the arrangement made, there may be a 'full service' foreplay, or simply some standard foreplay before the deed is done. One shot, and time's up.

I mustered enough courage to visit one of them the other day, was located in Pu Tuo district. The place was a pretty decent residential estate, with security and all. But anyways, it took me a while to find the block and unit number.

Upon entering, I was disappointed, but not surprised to see that the girl who greeted me wasn't the girl in the photo. We chatted awhile and I learnt that the person on QQ chatting is simply the middleman/pimp.

So anyways, we went into the bedroom, which looks like an average bedroom with a queen sized bed. Usual licking, CBJ, and then the FJ. I came quite fast after only 10mins, and then we got dressed, paid up and left.

She had fake tits, which while new to me, I wasn't quite into it.

1 shot - $300
2 shot -$500
1 Night = $600 (from 10pm onwards, price scales the earlier you want to book).

Girl: 6
Service: 6
RTF: Nah, unless I'm in the mood for a surprise.
Damage: $300 + $50+ two-way taxi fare.

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Astrong
10-11-07, 12:49
Thanks for the feedback guys!

Guybert56
10-11-07, 15:08
Well, I didn't think it fair to only visit the place in World Plaza On Pudong Lu (located on B2 as reported earlier). Near the subway stop just north of the Nextage Mall in Pudong. Phone number: 58774638

Tried to find #5 again since I had such a wonderful GFE the first time but she was not available. The line up at 2 pm was shorter but nonetheless nice and I chose #17 again due to the eye contact. The others graciously bowed and said their goodbyes in unison and #17 grabbed my hand and led me to our room.

Again, the eye contact and the touching were exceptional even before she left for her 'kit'. When she returned she started the nice neck kissing thing and proceeded to do some serious DFK before the boxers were off! She got comfortable and showed that she was very athleticly built (translated smallish both topside and behind. But she was very nicely proportioned! ) and had wonderful skin and was a natual cutie! Playful smile and eager lips!

She dropped to her knees for some BBBJ before I reciprocated. She was very happy to stand over me and allow me to eat her out extensively! Very helpful as well guiding where and how she wanted things. Since I speak little Chinese and she no English, she communicated very cleverly by doing to my hand what she wanted my lips and tongue to do. She REALLY got into it! She especially got wound up when I stuck my tongue deep inside her. And my tongue is pretty clever, too! She got into us so much so that I thought we would run out of time.

We did get 'covered' and went to work about 10 minutes before I thought the time would be up and my di-di was not wanting to shoot but she was VERY persistent! If I wasn't hard enough, she would do all sorts of naughty things to get him back in the game! We actually went over by at least 50 minutes and they only asked that I pay an extra 100 when I checked out. I was very impressed at her eagerness to please but then she seemed VERY appreciative of my attention to her needs. She had the tightest P---y I have ever encountered and she didn't hesitate to take all of me without complaint. Very enjoyable.

Upon leaving, they offered me VIP status and siad the normal 650 session would be 550! Sounds great to me! Now I have identified 2 HOTTIES there. #5 and #17.

Damages today for 120 minutes! 750
Girls: 6-8
#5: solid 8 face, solid 8 body, 10+ attitude!!
Surroundings: again, pretty spartan but clean and the staff were nice today
I'll be back!

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Saltywolf
10-12-07, 03:24
After arriving in Shanghai and mongering for month, I've completely drained out my wallet on KTV.

LOVE the KTV's.. Been to Golden Palace on Shi Men Er Lu & Xin Zha Lu..

Face: 7-9
Body: 8-10 (10 is one i've seen with 38G.. they scared me.. i think i pissed in my pants that night)
Service: 8-9
Fun Factor: 9-10

We "played" a few games. Usually the mama will play the 7-8-9 game with the lot. The girls will pair up with their "husbands".

Apparatus: half glass alcohol,two dice, and one white chinese bowl
How to play: each person (not pair) roll the dice
- Hit 7: add as much alcohol as you wish into the glass
- Hit 8: drink half the glass
- Hit 9: down the entire glass
- Hit 6: the direction reverses
- Hit double 1's: you can direct anyone to drink (Bro, be sure to pick a girl, not your fellow mongmate to drink)
- Hit any double #: the chosen pair play the "game"

Game: - you drink all the water trickling down your girls tit
- you're blindfolded and have to find the fruits on your girls body
- you keep a mouthful of water. your girl puts a tissue paper between her ass crack and lights it up with fire. then you have to put it out with the water in your mouth before the fire touches her ass.

I took my girl out overnight for 1500. Overall, a fun cherry night for me!

Since then I've visited a few korean KTV in HongQiao area. There is a difference between Chinese and Korean/Jap KTV. The Korean/Jap KtV girls are heavy drinkers. They will get you drunk off your ass so that you won't take them home. But quality is more or less 6 to 7.

Been reading so much about the SN and all the information provided by our fellow mongmates, but one thing has been missing which may come handy for bros like me who can't fork up cold hard earned mongering cash is:

Do most of the SN in SH accept credit card payment?

It's friday and I plan to visit Bo Duo or the one Guybert provided in World Plaza. SN is my first.

I did a bit of research in a chinese forum and have found out about another SN that seem like a hit call Ah La Gong by FuXing Park. Anyone got info about this?

Silk Fan
10-12-07, 04:50
Many thanks for the wisdom garden here.

Hopefully worthy addition to that, off Chi Feng Lu station (yellow metro a tad north).

Out of station, amble east on too busy Chi Feng and confidently ignore the 2 BBS with enthused wavers and tres dirty windows (I thought I didn't have time for a trim. Wtfwit? ), turn north on 1st street Ti Yu Hui. Perhaps 6 BBS on the west side, so don't repeat my mistake opting in the 1st place (before I realized it was a mini mall of many house). Do yourself a favor and up & down the street for informed selection.

Late AM. I got walked in back grubby stall for 50 RMB, two solid 5s trying to negosh 200 for a duce HJ. Sorry ladies, only brought 1 jiba so I stuck to 100RMB guns without too much pouting on their part. Nice feature though, the 2nd half didn't leave, just assisted me nippelarly and showed hers easily (yawn), fetched some oil when I resisted the urge too long. I think she wanted to hang around just to inspect the load (thus me sorta suspects laowai don't find the street all that much). OK, a 100/HJ might be past scale given the plain candy, but for a team effort it seemed worthy. Didn't have inclination for FS but probably a bargain.

Leaving, had that good old freaking feeling when I saw 3 gendarmes bench sitting across the street 20 M down. Maybe I will get used that, maybe I shouldnt. I was looked over but more than normal curious stare.

Continued about my legit trek when I saw the many more BBS, each with better selection than my spur m'o the moment pick. Ahh there is always another day.

Old hands. OK I love to DATY weller as the next guy, but I don't want my lips to fall off with a fever later that week. How do you DATYrs get past that concern? I fear BBS enough (given lack of a hot lather scrub asap after deed).

Also odd, of course was waved to/in each subsequent BSS as I went on my way. When I returned a few hours later via same street, still lots of treats in the seats but no waves. Just that time of day? Gendarmes have a word with the mams? Maybe my paranoia?

Obligatory humour. Was sofa shopping and pocket loaded with several K quai, which I forgot all about just before I went in. Walked out OK with it, but will probably pack lighter next trim. I mean time.

Long live, thanks

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Logos
10-12-07, 05:44
Experienced monger, but new in Shanghai, in town for 3 nights from this Sunday. Anyone interested in hooking up to explore the scene PM me for my mobile.
Open to any suggestion, the lewder the better ;-)

John Euro
10-12-07, 08:18
Back in SH for my 3th time in 2 weeks and now just for one night, I headed again to Joy lmassage late evening as I needed only a good massage, the late flight and hours driving have been killing me, the SH hotel sauna was very tempting but I thought I will fell asleep on the stretcher if the treatment is not strong enough or a bit soapy style.

Arrived at Joy and asked again for #66 and a 1h oily at 328rmb, not cheap but I know the quality is excellent. Things have been going the same way as in my previous report and the works where excellent, I was with my hands all over here body as far as possible with no resistance except when I was trying to open the zipper, no much tits in packaging either. When she was rubbing and teasing my lower front part and saw that my friend was up in the air she asked if I wanted a upgrade for one hour more. With my 5 words Chinese and here 10 words English I could not figure out what could be " include " in the hour extra, se kept on saying extra massage and I agreed for a 30 min extra to try it out and being sure that the extra 160 rmb would go to the mamasan, she kept on going and after the 60 min spot she gave me a neck and full head massage (head massages are in most places a time killer within the 60min and I donít like it) but must admit this one was great, at the 70 min spot she cleaned my whole body up with hot water, throw a large towel over me and told me the game was over.

I told here now way! , pointed at the clock for the remaining 15 min to go, I grabbed her to hands and placed them on my groin area, a big smile on here face and she started to massage my groin area over the towel and only when I had a hard one she took slowly the towel away to continue with soft stoking and ball massage till the end.

For sure the 1h upgrade where they ask for is a ripp-off type of thing, nothing extra include and the massage is getting very expensive that way as she was doing already the best works within the first 1 hour. I know the HJ for 200 rmb on top is not cheap but at this time well worth it, I had no other chose due to lack of time. If I see on this board that you can get a decent massage + HJ incl. For a few hundred, this one is rather expensive as the damage was now 508 + 200 rmb to the girl, but I repeat the massage was perfect. Girl kept on asking when she could come to my hotel room, wondered what that would cost as she told me that prices for " extra service " would be discussed in the hotel room. They know that once there the guest is a weak position and most will pay whatever they ask for.

John Euro

Ace Gallant
10-12-07, 14:14
Experienced monger, but new in Shanghai, in town for 3 nights from this Sunday. Anyone interested in hooking up to explore the scene PM me for my mobile.
Open to any suggestion, the lewder the better ;-)

Dear Shanghai Gang,

Althrough I had met Logos briefly in CP Jia Yi KTV last Sunday, I had communicated with him on PM and Emails before he arrived in China. From our communications and our brief meeting I can sense that he is a OK guy and definitely not a wanker.

As I am away from my station during his visit to China, please help me to give this newbie to China a warm welcome and take care of him (should any of you guys are available).

Logos; As the Golden week holidays was just over, we are still dealing with the aftermaths of the holiday and thus many of us are still away from our station. Please forgive us if none of us are available during your stay in Shanghai.

The Shanghai thread has lots of good information and thus; please help yourself to these great contributions from members.

BTW: You still owe me a beer for booking your hotel and transport into CP! hahahaha...! Just joking!

Enjoy Shanghai!
AG

Mark17
10-12-07, 15:08
Zapatas ladies night on Wednesday still rocks. There last week and it was unbelievably crowded with ladies.

ESHow is it on the weekends. Friday and Saturday? What is the going rate the girls ask for ST or overnight? And what rate can you normally negotiate to? I assume many of the girls here have normal day jobs. And just out for extra cash?

Mark17
10-12-07, 16:08
Attached is a picture of a Cialis knockoff. I've seen it in a couple adult toy stores. I worked the price down to 100RMB for a bottle of 10, so I figured it was worth a shot. I was surprised that it actually did have a positive effect. It does not seem to last as long as the authentic Cialis, but for 10RMb a shot, it's a good alternative.

Here's hoping my dick won't turn green and fall off.I have found this in Beijing, and agree it works well.

Where can you buy it in Shanghai?

World Guy Sh
10-12-07, 16:15
Forum, People,

Iím going to add to the Ji Yuan debate here on customer service although my reasons are somewhat different and it didnít just happen at the front desk. I have to admit I didnít agree with the complaint of the previous member although can understand how it might rub some people up the wrong way.

OK. Just got back form Ji Yuan 1 Ė JiaoZhou Lu, Changping Lu. Itís a 10 minute cab ride away. I left home 85 minutes ago. I arrived at 9. 15pm Ė tol that it is a 20 minute wait. OK, donít worry, not tonight, please sir, donít worry, only 10 minutes. OK, Iíll wait. And in fairness a couple of minutes later I am taken. Straight to the line up. WTF?

So there I am, at the line up looking at about 12 girls. All OK. Pick Number 1 Ė she smiled demurely at me so why not? Nice looking, big eyes, OK chest. This is all odd (I have been here before) and after being asked to sit on a stool, with her admittedly getting very friendly get taken straight to the room. Girl disappears for some stuff and then comes back. Weíre at 9. 30pm now guys. She undresses me and then herself. Into the shower. Perfunctory wash. Then sets up the wet bed (Iím chatting to her all this time in my limited by basic conversational PTH) gets me to lie on it. Usual stuff but. WHOOAAA. Back, massage, flip, front. Up, shower. What?

Weíre now at 9:40. So, shower and soapy massage has lasted all of what, 7 minutes. Isnít this what Ji Yuan is supposed to be about. A soapy massage? I say "Tai kui le", she just smiles and corrects my mandarin. Nice. I kind of knew where this was going. So did little brother who was getting really quite little.

Onto the bed. Sits me on the bed. Starts working at little brother and below. Up he goes and then she gets me to lie on the bed. OK, so maybe things are improving but low and behold, nope. 3 minutes tops and she wants to cover it and do the deed.

At this point I protested, told her that I wanted more. Roll of the eyes, and OK. And it is a pity, because she is good at this. Or seems to be, but frankly I never get the chance to really find out. In an attempt to slow things down a bit I go for DATY.

Now, I reckon I go to these places for some fun and relaxation. But hey, I seem to be doing all the work. I guess I got 5 minutes, but certainly no more. I didnít really want more by this point. So, on goes the cover into mish and off we go. I wasnít exactly quick but even so, by the clock on the wall, which I checked it was just before 10pm.

OK. So lets see if we get round two. But no, straight in the shower, wash and out. Dry yourself mate, and then sit on the bed whilst I watch her putting on her make up. Yes, thatís right. Iím paying for a make up lesson. And then she dresses me and hertself and I am back, standing at reception with the reception girl asking me for 760RMB.

Excuse me, but no. So I complain. "Bu hao". Now I am aware that reception is busy. I donít want to make a fuss. So I am low key. "Mei you". She looks at me, 760. So I speak to the guy who chatted to me when I came in. Point out I arrived at 9. 15 and it is now only 10. 10. Too quick, not good "San shi fen zhong". I can at least do this in PTH. "Sorry sir" he says and walks off. I make one more attempt at indicating, no, making perfectly clear I am not happy. "Qi bei liu shi". Wallet, pull out cash.

So, what do you do? I was tempted to pull out 400 put it on the desk and leave, but it three flights of stairs. You never know who you might meet on the way down. Or outside. I mean, if I ran the place I would want security. People pouring in. Donít waste your money chaps.

You know, I would have preferred they had said, "Sorry, full". Or come back in one hour. Given me a proper time. I would have left it for the night, gone somewhere else, but would have returned. Now? Not a catís chance in hell. Never. Sorry, I know people like Ji Yuan, hell, I did but not now. I feel conned. Ripped off, conned, cheated. Call it want you like. She tried to up sell me to two girls. Glad I didnít go for that.

Look, Iím quite sure that JY can be good. Girls are good looking and previous history suggests that it is. Personal previous history tells me it is. But this was beyond anything. I have spent longer in BBSís. Almost. For twice the price I could have a KTV room and a bottle of whisky for a night. For less, I could have been at 209 Wulumuqi Lu. Or the SH which I nearly went to but like the soapy bit and wanted to relax.

Oh yeah, could have done that in the room one the way out, but was in no mood to sit around. Relax? Thatís what I went for. In reality it was the most grim, depressing experience I have had here or anywhere else. So, whatís the moral of this? JY customer service is crap. Lets be blunt. On a Friday night we are money. But that is (I reckon) five visits in the next year they lose from me. I wonít be back. Whether you should? Iím not saying boycott the place, Iím not that gung ho, but check the through put. I know people say the down side of JY is a wait but hadnít expected to be almost ejected through the system. Iíd just be really careful, thatís all. I just donít want anyone else caught out in the same way. 760 used to feel a bargain. Tonight it felt very expensive.

Anyway what would you do in the situation? Pay half and run? Complain loudly? Just keep sztum and go? Be interested to know. Saw another laowei going in as I came out, 10ish PM, 45/50 perhaps, dressed in black, smart looking. If youíre reading this, any thoughts? Or did I just get really unlucky?

Me? Friday nights Iím sticking to my right hand.

WGS

NB. If you do want to go, here are the girls details:

Number 01, from Zhejiang
Face, 6.5-7
Body, 6.5
Chest Ė nice size, unevenly enhanced.
Effort Ė 3
Attitude 6
Cost 760RMB

World Guy Sh
10-12-07, 16:22
Do most of the SN in SH accept credit card payment?Bao Duo does. Ji Yuan (despite my last post) has a machine and saw a guy using a local card a couple of visits back.

If you have a PIN you can of course just put the CC in any cash machine with the relevant signage.

WGS

Serse
10-12-07, 16:59
Just arrived from Manatthan. We step in very early (10.00 pm) and no WG were inside.

They started to arrive at 11.00, but after a while I had to leave (I was with some collegues). Just old philippinas, nothing special, not my kind of girls.

Within two days I'll try Shanghai Sauna or some other suggested place.

Maybe someone of you were entering Manatthan while I was going out this evening.. I hope you were luckier than me!!

If you want to monger together on Sunday evening or Monday evening, PM me!

Serse

Long Slong
10-12-07, 17:14
Well said brother! But what is one to do? So far for me this is bang for bucks :)

Now the trick is to find one closer so if I do not like what I see, I do not feel that I have wasted my time traveling to her :) I can just walk out and see if they would lower their price!


Long Slong,

I only tried one other search, and the same picture came up for a totally different City.

There can only be one explanation: she's a clone!

McDonald's has gone from selling meat to selling flesh.

To ensure consistency of quality, they are now cloning service providers.

They all go through the same Golden Arsch University, so that's why there seems to be a set routine involving identical tongue bath, hot / cold slurping, rimming etc.

To give you the illusion of choice, Hamburger/Big Mac/Quarter Pounder wise,
you can choose a Small, Medium or Large girl.

And of course, the burger you get never looks as good as the one on the poster.

Calvin Hobbs
10-12-07, 17:29
I just started staying at Xijiao Guest House and it's really a great place (5 star at the same price of a Holiday Inn) with one exception. It is very isolated in about 1160mu park setting. It is on Hong Qiao Road. No women. Hotel is about a mile inside the park. I'm looking for a FS LT sauna nearby or outcall so I can have some company for my R&R. Any ideas?

Thanks

WinteRain
10-12-07, 17:59
For a few hundred, this one is rather expensive as the damage was now 508 + 200 rmb to the girl, but I repeat the massage was perfect. Girl kept on asking when she could come to my hotel room, wondered what that would cost as she told me that prices for " extra service " would be discussed in the hotel room. They know that once there the guest is a weak position and most will pay whatever they ask for.

John EuroThat's way way too expensive for a massage with a hj! My recent report on Peacock massage offers you 90 mins for $298, 2 girls $398 ! you might want to check it out for a relaxing time.

Along the North side of Xietu Road / Da Mu Qiao Road .

WinteRain
10-12-07, 18:02
Anyway what would you do in the situation? Pay half and run? Complain loudly? Just keep sztum and go? Be interested to know. Saw another laowei going in as I came out, 10ish PM, 45/50 perhaps, dressed in black, smart looking. If youíre reading this, any thoughts? Or did I just get really unlucky?
Do NOT pay half and run. I'm most certain you would receive in turn a 90 minute treatment from either the people running the place, or the authorities.

Probably the best thing would be to complain loudly, and if you saw another lao wai going in, perhaps recommend him to another place. :P

IbeTheOne
10-13-07, 00:21
Will be staying at the Sheraton in Shaanxi Province next week. However, with a tour. Looking for services near bye to visit on my free time. Have to be discreet and cannot bring back to hotel. Any info?

Saltywolf
10-13-07, 05:07
Thanks, WGS.

I went to Bo Duo at about 1:45am and the attendant told me they close at 2am. Didn't know that. So I headed out to Tomson. They close at 3:30am. My first visit at Tomson. Because of the time constraint, I decided to head home for a good night sleep.

The bouncer showed my way out and as I was about to enter the cab, he asked whether I'd like to go to another place where he used to work. Claimed that the price is 600 LT and Full Package. I got his number and name in case I opt for this option when I'm too desperate. Since we don't know where this place is or what we have learned from it, I will refrain from providing his number. Sounds shady to me.

Are SN in Pudong 24 hours? Which ones open late?

WinteRain
10-13-07, 07:01
Thanks, WGS.

I went to Bo Duo at about 1:45am and the attendant told me they close at 2am. Didn't know that. So I headed out to Tomson. They close at 3:30am. My first visit at Tomson. Because of the time constraint, I decided to head home for a good night sleep.

The bouncer showed my way out and as I was about to enter the cab, he asked whether I'd like to go to another place where he used to work. Claimed that the price is 600 LT and Full Package. I got his number and name in case I opt for this option when I'm too desperate. Since we don't know where this place is or what we have learned from it, I will refrain from providing his number. Sounds shady to me.

Are SN in Pudong 24 hours? Which ones open late?Next time, just go for it. The girls are obligated to serve you the full duration as long as you go there before their supposed closing hours. You will not be asked to leave if you're mid-way in a session and you just hit their closing hour.

Of course, the girl.might- not be very happy if you go there 5 minutes before they're supposed to get off work. But hell, you're the customer. Then again, you can be nice and go back another day.

World Guy Sh
10-13-07, 09:18
do not pay half and run. i'm most certain you would receive in turn a 90 minute treatment from either the people running the place, or the authorities.

probably the best thing would be to complain loudly, and if you saw another lao wai going in, perhaps recommend him to another place. :pwhich was my thought entirely but thought i would pose the question. you don't run these places without knowing all the right people. and it is also why i was discreet in my complaint at the desk. that felt like a risk in itself. hell, you're over a barrel whichever way you look at it!

the guy was already attached to a girl and heading to a room, albeit fully clothed, as i was.

i guess we live and learn : in this case, avoid jy on a busy night or other obviously busy times. if it is talked up here, it will be known even better locally so quality drives demand. just wish that they would balance that with fairer service. it felt a bit like going to the cinema and being shown the film at three or four times the speed so they could get another showing in.

i'm still a bit pissed off today and it will take me a long time to think about returning.

deep breath. move on.

wgs

World Guy Sh
10-13-07, 09:31
Are SN in Pudong 24 hours? Which ones open late?Report here from NightWing mentioned one:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=642769&postcount=1866 (Pudong Stories 4)

Address: Next to the Jin Qiao Hotel 上海金桥大饭店
1379 Jin Qiao Road, 金桥路, 1379 号, 浦东, 上海
Go to the Bank of China building next door. Go up to the fourth floor.
Cost: 500RMB/600RMB.

WGS

Guybert56
10-13-07, 12:09
I have read a lot of glowing reports about the SH Sauna near the Hilton, so off I went this afternoon with high hopes and a fist full of yuan. Arrived about 2 and the routine was that, routine. No surprises. The place is VERY nice as for surroundings! I was vey impressed with the whole place and the assistants were very nice and helpful! I did have to turn down the body scrub and pedicure much to the displeasure of the two guys hawking those services. After my shower and donning my PJ's, I was taken directly to the fishbowl without any mention of food or drink. There were at least 12 girls in the bowl and NONE would make eye contact! It was like they were all saying pick the other girl! I actually almost left the place at that point but thought I was being a tad picky after my GFE experiences at the two saunas in Pudong near the Nextage Mall.

Anyway, I picked on the basis of looks and chose a VERY pretty girl who did smile a little before the choice was made. She lead me by the hand directly to the room and again, the room was VERY nice! Had the hardware for a red rope treatment and mirrors everywhere and the hot water dispencer in the corner. #8 was a 24 year old beauty from Harbin. She is the closest to a 10 I have seen for body and face. LOVELY! Sadly, she was NOT open to having any kissing or DATY. She was sweet but her performance was lackluster. No red rope was offered.compared to the past three experiences in the World Plaza and behind Wagas near Nextage, she was a 4. She looked a lot like Karen Mok the Hong Kong Model and she was very nice in every other way. But, I'll save my money and get a GFE for a hundred yuan less and for a longer session.

Damages: 650 for 50 minutes!!
Girls: 5-9
#8: Body and face 9+ (I think she had enhancement but the job was so well done I cannot be sure!) Personality 8 but performance 4-5.
Facility: 9
Value: 5 (no pun intended...bang for the buck was no where as good as in Pudong)...no offence Puxi mongers!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Phenyl
10-13-07, 15:21
Shaanxi province is a bit of a commute from Shanghai. After checking a map, you might also want to RTFF.


Will be staying at the Sheraton in Shaanxi Province next week. However, with a tour. Looking for services near bye to visit on my free time. Have to be discreet and cannot bring back to hotel. Any info?

Ringer5
10-14-07, 01:25
I reported a similar experience at this place recently, and have now stopped going to all the massage places on that junction as I think they get too much easy business and don't care about regular customers. Instead, I recommend a ten minute taxi ride east along Zhangyang Lu to the corner of Yuanshen Lu - both of the massage places I've been to there have been clean, friendly, relaxing and pleasant experiences. I'm hoping to get to the others in that row quite soon!

"Just got back from a disappointing massage, this place is in Pudong, on the southwest corner of Laoshan Road and Weifang Road. Sorry I didn't catch an English name, in fact I don't think it had one. It's on the same side of the street as the KFC, and it's the first massage place south of Weifang."

Nightwing88
10-14-07, 07:51
Report here from NightWing mentioned one:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=642769&postcount=1866 (Pudong Stories 4)

Address: Next to the Jin Qiao Hotel 上海金桥大饭店
1379 Jin Qiao Road, 金桥路, 1379 号, 浦东, 上海
Go to the Bank of China building next door. Go up to the fourth floor.
Cost: 500RMB/600RMB.

WGS

Wow, someone actually references my reports? I'm flattered!

Went back to Jin Qiao Sauna last week, and asked them again about the 24 hour service. They claimed, once again, that they do have service all hours of the day (both the attendants outside and the girl in my room told the same story). I'm usually asleep and not in Jin Qiao at 5:00AM, but would like to try this someday, if possible.

Also, tried the 600RMB option this time at Jin Qiao Sauna. The extra 100 RMB gets you a lot more AR action, specifically with the red wine and the coca-cola! The red wine was different, but I turned down the coca-cola AR option. I did not want to feel bubbles up my you-know-what!

Would also like to confirm that Elaine's Massage (on Biyun Road near Hong Feng Road) definitely has HJ service as reported earlier. The Shanana Massage on the corner of Biyun Road and Hong Feng Road also is definitely a legitimate massage. But, if you need a really good, hard comfortable massage, without extras, Shanana is the place to go.

Take care,
Nightwing

Fuzimiao
10-14-07, 10:49
Peterb,

I use this establishment regularly, but do not share the same experience. With a VIP card I pay 50 rmb (75 less 33%) per hour for massage, plus the tip for the girl herself. I do of course stick to my original bargain and don't continue haggling. Suggest you read the white board outside the door, 200 is for essential rose oil body massage, top of the bill.

There are 26 girls at the parlour, when chosen in rotation, ie the sofa inside the doorway, they get one client per day. If, as often happens, the client does not require a happy ending, then there is no tip, the girl earns almost nothing on the day. A client who wants to keep on haggling will not be appreciated. Believe it or not, most first time clients pay 500 tip, and 300 when returning.

It follows that anyone returning and asking for a specific girl, will be made extremely welcome as this is additional to the daily rotation quota. I spent a very pleasant two hours relaxing there this afternoon, and in fact dozed off towards the end of the session. I was left to sleep on without charge.

The establishment is attached to the street restaurant next door, and is very popular with at least some sections of the expat community who often gather there for a few beers, (at 5 rmb a bottle), If you are passing by don't hesitate to stop by for a beer and a chat, we are normally sat outside on the terrace, surrounded by empty tsingtao bottles.

Sorry you had such a bad experience, I don't suppose you noted the girls number. All the girls wear a number badge on pain of being fined if seen without it.

FZ


[QUOTE=Peterterb]Just got back from a disappointing massage, this place is in Pudong, on the southwest corner of Laoshan Road and Weifang Road. Sorry I didn't catch an English name, in fact I don't think it had one. It's on the same side of the street as the KFC, and it's the first massage place south of Weifang.

I don't like to negotiate up front, I prefer the "thrill" of haggling during the massage. But in this case the girl spoke almost no English and had one of those "upsell" attitudes, so the negotiating didn't go well. We initially agreed to a 1 hour oil massage for 200 RMB but then she started the upsell. I wouldn't budge over 400 but she was demanding more. I only had 400 with me and tried to explain this but she didn't get it. At one point she reached into the locker and started digging around my pants pockets looking for my wallet. She finally asked me to get up and produce my wallet and pay up! So I gave her the cash and she went back to work. You can guess the rest. A rushed, mediocre back rub followed by a race to the finish line.

I know, I know, it's my fault for not striking a deal upfront. But I get the sense that the hard upsell is standard operating procedure at this particular place. Or maybe my approach just doesn't work in Shanghai? Anyways I would recommend passing this one by, there are about five more places within 200 meters on the same side of the street.

Albert Punter
10-14-07, 16:04
I am sure that by $ you mean RMB.

We should be accurate when talking about prices in order to avoid possible misunderstandings with newbies.



...
1 shot - $300
2 shot -$500
1 Night = $600 (from 10pm onwards, price scales the earlier you want to book).

WinteRain
10-14-07, 17:07
I am sure that by $ you mean RMB.

We should be accurate when talking about prices in order to avoid possible misunderstandings with newbies.Whoops, my apologies there. Yes, they're in RMB. Will label my currencies properly in future. I can imagine the horror (the girl's glee) if someone pays those prices in USD!

Farmboy5
10-15-07, 10:41
To all you fans. The new adress is Tian Yao Qiao Lu 999. This is on tian yao qiao lu's south part near Long Hua metro station. The place was under construction last week but they promissed it will open on October. No specific date. If any one can verify its open it will be nice!

Have fun

Walked past 999 Tian Yao Qiao Lu last night. Place is being decorated and not open yet. There was a sauna at the same location before which I never visited because it is very near my house.

Going south(or east?) on Tian Yao Qiao Lu away from XuJiaHui, cross Zhong Shan Nan Er Lu and it is about 200 meters on the left. Very near the stadium.

I'll take a chance and give it a try when it reopens.

Parasitius
10-15-07, 14:28
Anyone interested to know about a sauna under 400? Really -- anyone who pays a yuan more than 150 at BBSes should have the hell beat out of them, because 5 BBS visits generally does not equal one sauna. (And BTW I was really mad when I went to check out Changde lu and I saw they have the audacity to not budge below 300-400 at some places -- foreigners ruining it for us all?)

Now saunas 600-800 is steep if you want to make it a regular thing, but 400 -- damn! ... Want to know the address? It's located about 20 yuan in a taxi east of Shanghai Railway station. If I get a few people asking for it, I'll post it shortly. I'm just hoping I can get something in return like if there is some little info anyone is holding out on and not posting publically for whatever reason, send it to me!

Nicosanx
10-16-07, 04:21
Has anyone use the following services of this company that seems too good to be real.

http://www.sexmassage.cn/English/About.asp?ID=20

And for people around Jing An, both massage place in the back of Equatorial and Hilton hotels are leggit.

Matsu69
10-16-07, 04:28
Anyone interested to know about a sauna under 400? Really -- anyone who pays a yuan more than 150 at BBSes should have the hell beat out of them, because 5 BBS visits generally does not equal one sauna. (And BTW I was really mad when I went to check out Changde lu and I saw they have the audacity to not budge below 300-400 at some places -- foreigners ruining it for us all?)

Now saunas 600-800 is steep if you want to make it a regular thing, but 400 -- damn! ... Want to know the address? It's located about 20 yuan in a taxi east of Shanghai Railway station. If I get a few people asking for it, I'll post it shortly. I'm just hoping I can get something in return like if there is some little info anyone is holding out on and not posting publically for whatever reason, send it to me!Dude - WTF? The forum is designed to help members share information for the purpose of getting laid. You are just jerking everyone off with your insipid post.

Come on! If anyone is holding out, I'm sure your enticing offer is going to drag them to the altar for a full confession.

If you have an address of a public business, that is something that should be shared - not dangled like bait. Wanker!

Pleasure Dude
10-16-07, 08:15
Will be in town on Thursday of this week for one day. I am looking for some companies to go to a nice KTV that night because I don't want to go by myself. I will pay for the drinks and the room as a good gesture and you just have to pay for your companion . Please PM if interested. Shanghai Gang, if you have some time to spare that night, please PM too. I be very interested to meet up with you guys. Lastly, I can speak chinese fluently so I won't be a burden to the group of course.

I will be flying from LA tomorrow night and will be in Shanghai Thursday morning. I won't be able to reply to your message until I get there. Look forward to see some of the members there.


Cheers,
PD

Shsdlux
10-16-07, 11:28
Dude - WTF? The forum is designed to help members share information for the purpose of getting laid. You are just jerking everyone off with your insipid post.

Come on! If anyone is holding out, I'm sure your enticing offer is going to drag them to the altar for a full confession.

If you have an address of a public business, that is something that should be shared - not dangled like bait. Wanker!I am just browsing the forum again and have run accorss this post and have to finally say something. After spending some time here in Shanghai i do see that prices are out of control. I have found a place which used to be RMB 680 and they kept asking me to bring more "white people". I kept telling them that is not possible since the girls are not very good and the place is not very modern compared to some of the places mentioned on this board. So after several months my price dropped to RMB 500. The problem is that these Sauna places talk to each other and that is why the prices are always in a certain range. I know that some prices are going up and it is being accepted and that means the others will follow. This board mentions prices too much. If you guys would agree to post RMB 150-200 below what you actually pay, and this would be a forum rule, the prices would not increase and even start dropping. The sauna places would not believe each other and fight for more business. Just something to think about.

Take care guy

Herr Pollon
10-16-07, 16:04
Will be in town on Thursday of this week for one day. I am looking for some companies to go to a nice KTV that night because I don't want to go by myself. I will pay for the drinks and the room as a good gesture and you just have to pay for your companion . Please PM if interested. Shanghai Gang, if you have some time to spare that night, please PM too. I be very interested to meet up with you guys. Lastly, I can speak chinese fluently so I won't be a burden to the group of course.

I will be flying from LA tomorrow night and will be in Shanghai Thursday morning. I won't be able to reply to your message until I get there. Look forward to see some of the members there.

Cheers,

PDIīll join and pay my share of the room and drinks, I haven't the chance to sent/get PMs, if you can think of any other mean of comunication.

Farmboy5
10-16-07, 16:05
Dude - WTF? The forum is designed to help members share information for the purpose of getting laid. You are just jerking everyone off with your insipid post.

Come on! If anyone is holding out, I'm sure your enticing offer is going to drag them to the altar for a full confession.

If you have an address of a public business, that is something that should be shared - not dangled like bait. Wanker!

What he said!!

What a prick trying to bait people with lame promises of information.

Pleasure Dude
10-16-07, 17:30
I will be staying at the Jin Jiang Tower hotel on 161 Changle Road and arriving there Thursday morning. Maybe we can meet up at starbucks or another hotel lobby somewhere at lunch time to exchange contact information. Let me know. Also, do you have a KTV place in mind? I already have another member that expressed interest in KTV so we now have a total of 3 people. Anyone else? Come on Shanghai members. I am sure more of you are interested in attending and showing a newbie what your great city has to offer.

PD



Iīll join and pay my share of the room and drinks, I haven't the chance to sent/get PMs, if you can think of any other mean of comunication.

Parasitius
10-16-07, 17:33
To all the wankers who called me a wanker, PLEASE READ Shsdlux's post. My point was only to make a small statement -- with information comes great responsibility, and you can bet some people aren't sharing a really good bit or two because they are worried about prices being destroyed. Also I'm lonely so I was looking to get some private messages (I got but 1), way to make a mountain out of a mole hill!

(2#@@!#$*#@$@# - This special scramble code blocks all the people who called me a wanker from reading the below report)

So here is an exact map for those adept in Chinese:
http://www.ddmap.com/mstmap50007/g_detail.jsp?g_mapid=21&g_label=秋子沐浴城&g_addr=秋子沐浴城&g_poiId=248081&keyname=高阳路331号

The place is called QiuZi YuShi, in the Hongkou District, 331 GaoYang Street (the nearest crossing street on the map seems to be DongYuHang Street -- but maybe better not even tell the driver that since the whole street is like an alley)

Session is technically 45 mins, though it seemed longer to me and definitely wasn't rushed. The girls are NOT super young, but the 4 that I saw all had a Milf-ish hooker hotness to them and were busty and I considered taking each before settling on the cool Chengdu hottie I did pick. There is unfortunately no fish bowl, but I got them to show me 4, two at a time, and apparently 20+ work there in total.

Total price is something like 394 grand total. Supposedly it is 24/7, and if you realize it's not to your liking the surrounding area has like 10 bbs'es to browse and a 30 kuai handjob factory (done in a big public room) !!

Chinese name and address:
秋子沐浴城
高阳路331号

Logos
10-16-07, 21:32
Well I'm just finishing a 4 days visit in Shanghai and that is enough for me. Shanghai has nothing more to offer than most asian cities apart from prices totally out of control, and it's definitely a no go city if your sole interest is mongering. I was here for business so the damage was limited, but I'd never travel back here for pleasure or for the girls. Life's too short to waste time in fruitless endeavours.

I went to the Tong re lu (sp?) area described as the 'shanghai gang' hangout by some. I don't know what some guys are drooling about for as I have rarely seen such a pathetic row of westernized semi rip off joints in asia. $4 to 8-9 for a drink or a cocktail ? These are berlin or NY prices. Plus girls pushing for lady drinks after a few minutes.

Wasn't even remotely tempted by any of the massage joints described in this forum as they all appear to be outrageously expensive compared to the SZ/DG areas that I'm now more familiar with. I thought I'd try the red ropes, well if want to see acrobatics I'll go to Barnum's, I'm here to get laid andnot taken for a ride.

I had prepared the trip and cultivated a few precarious leads on AFF. I wasted my time dining a hot girl last night but today was better as I just scored a freebie with a 35 yo divorcee who hadn't got laid in 2 years. As I hadn't got laid in a good 2 days myself the game was about even and we had raw, animal sex. Ha ! it felt good. Granted she was a bit of a turkey but a freebie's a freebie and sheer horniness's a more than good substitute for professionalism.

After the deed was consumed I took her to eat - it turns out her idea of western gastronomy is KFC, which I was happy to oblige...

Off to Beijing tomorrow for another 3 days. Not too optimistic about the place either given the recent lackluster reports but you never know. At least I'dd try to see the forbidden city between 2 meetings.

Fly Surfing
10-17-07, 04:02
Dear all,

I would like to ask you which place, club, in Shanghai is the best to find some freebies? For my conception, freebies means girls, who are not working girls.

Thanks for your answer!

Alain

Herr Pollon
10-17-07, 07:38
Dear all,

I would like to ask you which place, club, in Shanghai is the best to find some freebies? For my conception, freebies means girls, who are not working girls.

Thanks for your answer!

AlainToday Zapata's: Park97 on weekends.

Shaghai
10-17-07, 08:23
Has anyone use the following services of this company that seems too good to be real.

http://www.sexmassage.cn/English/About.asp?ID=20

And for people around Jing An, both massage place in the back of Equatorial and Hilton hotels are leggit.I have used this service a few times, several months ago. Price is accurate, RMB 800, service varies like most of these sorts of outcall services, from one excellent experience to last one where girl spent the whole time talking about her budding DJ career and whole thing went nowhere. Since then I've not used them but may again if anyone has recent positive reports -- also, I recently pinged them and they are still around and operating and confirmed pricing. Do not expect the photos to match any particular girl, but all the girls I had were in the 6-7 range, with one 9 who has since moved on. I'm not sure about some of the promises made on the website, i.e. if you can do as you like as indicated or if there is a menu with various add-ons. Anyway, I am definitely a outcall kind of guy (many, many of us of there require a low profile in SH and are not in a position to monger as openly as some who post on this board, so outcall offers a discreet and very private alternative) so any discussion on this point is welcome from our end (both SH and BJ options). I have of course RTFF on this point but would note that there are not many posts on the subject. Thanks.

Bonzo1
10-17-07, 08:36
Well I'm just finishing a 4 days visit in Shanghai and that is enough for me. Shanghai has nothing more to offer than most asian cities apart from prices totally out of control, and it's definitely a no go city if your sole interest is mongering. I was here for business so the damage was limited, but I'd never travel back here for pleasure or for the girls. Life's too short to waste time in fruitless endeavours.

I went to the Tong re lu (sp?) area described as the 'shanghai gang' hangout by some. I don't know what some guys are drooling about for as I have rarely seen such a pathetic row of westernized semi rip off joints in asia. $4 to 8-9 for a drink or a cocktail ? These are berlin or NY prices. Plus girls pushing for lady drinks after a few minutes.

Wasn't even remotely tempted by any of the massage joints described in this forum as they all appear to be outrageously expensive compared to the SZ/DG areas that I'm now more familiar with. I thought I'd try the red ropes, well if want to see acrobatics I'll go to Barnum's, I'm here to get laid andnot taken for a ride.

I had prepared the trip and cultivated a few precarious leads on AFF. I wasted my time dining a hot girl last night but today was better as I just scored a freebie with a 35 yo divorcee who hadn't got laid in 2 years. As I hadn't got laid in a good 2 days myself the game was about even and we had raw, animal sex. Ha ! it felt good. Granted she was a bit of a turkey but a freebie's a freebie and sheer horniness's a more than good substitute for professionalism.

After the deed was consumed I took her to eat - it turns out her idea of western gastronomy is KFC, which I was happy to oblige...

Off to Beijing tomorrow for another 3 days. Not too optimistic about the place either given the recent lackluster reports but you never know. At least I'dd try to see the forbidden city between 2 meetings.

4 days here might not make you an expert. I agree SH is not the world's best place for the game, but it's also a hell of a lot better than you are giving credit (in all regards), i.e. its reputation worldwide isn't just a total sham.

That said, so do you have any suggestions for better places to monger? ...or just wanted to vent a bit?

Gualtier Malde
10-17-07, 09:42
Well I'm just finishing a 4 days visit in Shanghai and that is enough for me. Shanghai has nothing more to offer than most asian cities apart from prices totally out of control, and it's definitely a no go city if your sole interest is mongering. I was here for business so the damage was limited, but I'd never travel back here for pleasure or for the girls. Life's too short to waste time in fruitless endeavours.

I went to the Tong re lu (sp?) area described as the 'shanghai gang' hangout by some. I don't know what some guys are drooling about for as I have rarely seen such a pathetic row of westernized semi rip off joints in asia. $4 to 8-9 for a drink or a cocktail ? These are berlin or NY prices. Plus girls pushing for lady drinks after a few minutes.

Wasn't even remotely tempted by any of the massage joints described in this forum as they all appear to be outrageously expensive compared to the SZ/DG areas that I'm now more familiar with. I thought I'd try the red ropes, well if want to see acrobatics I'll go to Barnum's, I'm here to get laid andnot taken for a ride.

I had prepared the trip and cultivated a few precarious leads on AFF. I wasted my time dining a hot girl last night but today was better as I just scored a freebie with a 35 yo divorcee who hadn't got laid in 2 years. As I hadn't got laid in a good 2 days myself the game was about even and we had raw, animal sex. Ha ! it felt good. Granted she was a bit of a turkey but a freebie's a freebie and sheer horniness's a more than good substitute for professionalism.

After the deed was consumed I took her to eat - it turns out her idea of western gastronomy is KFC, which I was happy to oblige...

Off to Beijing tomorrow for another 3 days. Not too optimistic about the place either given the recent lackluster reports but you never know. At least I'dd try to see the forbidden city between 2 meetings.

Ah Logos, I'm sorry you had a bad time. But it sounds like you came in with the wrong expectations about what Shanghai is about.

Shanghai is not and never has been considered the cheapest place for sex. If you want that, go south, or anywhere other than Shanghai.

None of the locals "rave" about Tong Ren Lu (TRL). It is just a convenient place to meet. Most of us learned long ago how to control the "buy me drink" girls. We've adopted a few as friends, and for the most part they keep the "buy me..." to a minimum. Of course, we will buy some, but within reason.

What makes TRL fun is the friendship, not the p*ssy. The girls are (sometimes) an entertaining diversion, but we go to there to meet up with buddies and plan the evening. Sometimes we just stay. Sometimes we go hit some BBS or the Pub. Sometimes a KTV. Sometimes dinner.

What's nice about Shanghai is the diversity. There is always something new happening, somewhere. It is a rich, complex city. It is hard to get bored in Shanghai.

I can't say the same for Shenzhen, where I just went for the first time. Great place for the BBS scene, lots and lots of cheap girls. No doubt about it. But otherwise, it just wasn't the same for me. Not to say it was bad, not at all. Just different. If you want CHEAP, no hassle sex, hit SZ (or I'm told, CP). If you want a sophisticated city that also has lots of girl and p*ssy hunting opportunity, and money is not your sole criteria of quality, try Shanghai.

Just my two cents. Your mileage, of course, may vary.

Have fun!

GM

Fly Surfing
10-17-07, 11:02
Today Zapata's: Park97 on weekends.What do you think of Baby Face?

Thanks a lot!

Papi Putito
10-17-07, 14:02
I thought I had a sure thing with a freebie I picked up on while getting a bit to eat last night. She was a pretty hot French journalist at that. After too many drinks and lots of lip locks we were headed to my place when she blew chuncks. Oh well... Dropped her off at her apartment and went to maggies at about 2:30.

The pickins' were slim as they have been recently but still, even with the supposed "crack down" there has been some acceptable talent and even at 2:30, there were a couple worth doing. I chatted up a little honey who I assumed was Mongolian but didn't quite fit the look. Her name is Tina. Anyway, cut the deal for 800 for the remainder of the night, this only after she assured me, at no prompting from me, the that I could do anything to her I wanted. How can I pass that up? On the way out she wanted a hotdog and she confers with the guy at the stand in perfect Chinese. Damn, another Chinese hottie in Maggies. This is the second time now I have found a gem of a PRC WG in Maggies. Best of all, she not only allowed her ass to be toyed with, her pussy is so tight she actually prefers it in the arse. She was a pretty decent lay, very vocal, great head but not too skilled otherwise. All in all, a great night after all!

BJ Boy
10-17-07, 14:57
Damn, another Chinese hottie in Maggies. This is the second time now I have found a gem of a PRC WG in Maggies. Best of all, she not only allowed her ass to be toyed with, her pussy is so tight she actually prefers it in the arse. She was a pretty decent lay, very vocal, great head but not too skilled otherwise. All in all, a great night after all!

Firstly, this is the Shanghai thread not the Beijing thread and secondly, I really don't understand how you cannot tell the difference between Chinese and Mongolian? Some of them look similar but their accents are usually very distinctive.

Glad you had a nice ride on her chocolate highway though ...

BJ Boy
10-17-07, 15:17
Well I'm just finishing a 4 days visit in Shanghai and that is enough for me. Shanghai has nothing more to offer than most asian cities apart from prices totally out of control, and it's definitely a no go city if your sole interest is mongering.

I agree. But if your interest is great variety of Asian and Western foods, bars and restaurants with spectacular views, amazing bars and clubs with endless freebie opportunities AND mongering, THEN it's the best place to come!

Tong Ren Lu is sleazy but there are lots of bars there that are not using the "buy lady drink" business model. There are those and while not my preference, a lot of fun can still be had there, groping the girls while they sit and chat with you. There are bars there like Judys where its simply mongering, you decide a price and leave (or take your time and drink for prices that are the same whether the drink is for you or for the girl). BBS places that have hj from 50 rmb and so on. There's just about everything at every price range here but it's understandable that someone visiting may not be able to find these places straight away.

Ace Gallant
10-17-07, 15:30
Well I'm just finishing a 4 days visit in Shanghai and that is enough for me. Shanghai has nothing more to offer than most asian cities apart from prices totally out of control, and it's definitely a no go city if your sole interest is mongering. I was here for business so the damage was limited, but I'd never travel back here for pleasure or for the girls. Life's too short to waste time in fruitless endeavours.

I went to the Tong re lu (sp?) area described as the 'shanghai gang' hangout by some. I don't know what some guys are drooling about for as I have rarely seen such a pathetic row of westernized semi rip off joints in asia. $4 to 8-9 for a drink or a cocktail ? These are berlin or NY prices. Plus girls pushing for lady drinks after a few minutes.


Logos,

IMHO:
I think different countries has their differences. Different monger has different taste as well. I don't think it is fair to compare Apple to Oranges.

Shanghai is one of the earliest commercialized city in China. It has the best of both world. Most monger come here is not solely for the reason of mongering but mostly for Business. Since they had landed here, they must as well catch a bit of fun.

Did you actually get to meet any member of the Shanghai Gang? Of course beside your brief encounter with me in CP; I don't think you did met any one of the fun loving group and I don't think it is fair to comment about the group.

Tong Ren Lu is just one of the fun places where the "gang" meet, hang out a little before heading off to get the real deal. As GM had said; over time we had made friends and keep only certain girls that don't try to rip us off as our regulars. Of course many of us had scored and made a number of them as our freebies which is also a big part of the fun in "the hunt".

The Red Ropes: Well, in some ways, some might like it, some might not, it all depends on the person receiving it. As I'd said, some of those saunas lovers who had not experience it would love it. Obviously you are not one of them.

I do suggest though; when you are new in a city, try to hook up with the resident ISG members and I am sure they will show you where the real fun part of the city. That's where the Brotherhood of ISG comes in! Don't you love been part of ISG?

Enjoy!
AG

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Herr Pollon
10-17-07, 15:56
I thought I had a sure thing with a freebie I picked up on while getting a bit to eat last night. She was a pretty hot French journalist at that. After too many drinks and lots of lip locks we were headed to my place when she blew chuncks. Oh well... Dropped her off at her apartment and went to maggies at about 2:30.Maggies? Am I missing something? Is this post supposed to be at Beijing or do we have Maggies now in Shanghai? Oh LORD please, make it the second!

Hallo
10-17-07, 17:05
During a recent visit att the ming dian in pudong the strangest thing happend. I like this place because its simple. Not many locker-room boys or extra services. There is a pool, rater nice, and behind curtains a small bar. Once there you are lead into a romm, and then ladies appear. So far so good. Routine is also somewhat simplified, and the girl always tryes to see what you like, making it easy and trouble free to bypass moments you do not enjoy that much. Anyway, after a nice warm-up its time for the deed, and i enter but this girl i EXTREMELY tight. I try again, but as it goes i can really se that she is in pain, and that is of course a turn off. I can also see that she is not happy about this. So, she tells me that she will get another girl. Ok... Dont know where this will end but... OK. Again, lineup, in the room! Kind of strange, me whit a hardon and all. Quick selection and off again. Damn, this girl gets if really fast. No time to loose! The first girl now gets really exited and after a while i can have her again. Still no full penetration. They seemed to enjoy touching each other, and that was a nice extra turn on.


Turns out to be really wild, whit a two shot session. After sex cuddeling whit both girls, total time 120 min.

Girl 1
Looks 7
Attitude 9
Pussy Very tight, hairy
Anal N/A

Girl 2
Looks 7
Attitude 8
Pussy Normal, hairy
Anal Yes

She had a little BO after a while, unusual among china chicks, but ok whit me.

Checkout time:

Ordinary price for members: 650
My 2 h session whit 2 girls: 800.

Fellas, this is the place to go.

//Hallo

Schulli
10-17-07, 17:54
Originally Posted by Logos

Well I'm just finishing a 4 days visit in Shanghai and that is enough for me. Shanghai has nothing more to offer than most asian cities apart from prices totally out of control, and it's definitely a no go city if your sole interest is mongering. I was here for business so the damage was limited, but I'd never travel back here for pleasure or for the girls. Life's too short to waste time in fruitless endeavours.

I went to the Tong re lu (sp?) area described as the 'shanghai gang' hangout by some. I don't know what some guys are drooling about for as I have rarely seen such a pathetic row of westernized semi rip off joints in asia. $4 to 8-9 for a drink or a cocktail ? These are berlin or NY prices. Plus girls pushing for lady drinks after a few minutes.
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Bars here are like bars anywhere for freebies. You've got girls out having fun, and somehow you have to figure out how to break through their natural bar defenses to get to them.

Sometimes its easier to get freebies at venues where it is less expected for a man to be on the hunt. Try Starbucks, or Hagen Daz, or a shopping mall.

But hey, its Shanghai. There are plenty of girls at the bars just waiting to get picked up, so find the venue most comfortable to you, and go for it!

(Oh, and of course, report your experiences here on the board!)

GM
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Well Logos,

I disagree and agree.

If you will RTFF you will see. Shanghai has a lot of more offers to mongerers then other asia cities; if you have a fist full of money or if you are mr. Big spender; both ways to monger are possible.

I agree, that the TRL strip is a place for the "best agers" and so its a ripp off for westerners. Try next time the SH sauna or others recommended saunas here. I also made a few good pick ups at starbucks and zapatas, without spending hours of philandering; be nice and make clear wants in your mind, the girls are very down to earth and they will agree or not.

Hallo
10-17-07, 19:11
I have been reading that Malones should be a great place. when i visited the place last week, i just found it depressing. Smelld like someone puked inside, food was terrible, and chicks... not nice. Did i miss something? Can someone please update me on the doīs and dontīs at Malones?

BeEasy
10-17-07, 19:46
Hi DATY lovers,

Here are some notes from an expatriate who did catch Aids in spite of wearing a condom every time.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=654023&postcount=1250

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=654580&postcount=1258

Sounds? Thoughts?

BeEasy

Fritobugger
10-18-07, 00:09
I don't consider it a place to pick up WG. My experience with it is a good place to meet friends for beer and food. The food is better than average bar food. The burgers and chili cheese fries are usually pretty damn good. They have a decent happy hour deal and free wireless. Bathroom is usually fairly clear too for a bar in China.

I have to think you just hit it at a bad time.

Fritobugger
10-18-07, 03:53
Daisy is a fun girl.

Lachlan1972
10-18-07, 05:46
Hi guys,

I will be in Shanghai in 2 weeks for just 1 night and staying at the Central Hotel, located at 555 Jiujiang Lu (just a block south of Nanjing Lu).

I get in late so looking for a sauna or action within walking distance. Would appreciate any suggestions. Does anyone know if extras can be had at the sauna in the Shanghai Central Hotel itself?

Herr Pollon
10-18-07, 09:55
What do you think of Baby Face?

Thanks a lot!Only been there once, my impression is that the place is for Chinese.

I hope some of the more veteran members can add more info.

Logos
10-18-07, 11:00
Thanks for your enlightened comments GM and AG.

I was a bit cranky when I came up with the Shanghai post. Been in Beijing for a couple days now and in contrast I can certainly appreciate that Shanghai is a vibrant, cosmopolitan and exciting place to be, where you can cultivate relationships at least as thrilling as in Bangkok. Life there must be pretty good, keep up the good work guys.

(I'm definitely going to get hell from the Beijing gang this time.

World Guy Sh
10-18-07, 13:58
Guys,

Thought I was going out for my 'first' ISG KTV evening this evening. CRack that cherry! Missed e mails or something, but doesn't seem to have happened. Least I'm not there anyway! Pity, I love KTV (not Partyworld type of KTV in case anyone does misread my intent) and would be good to do it with some people on here. Most strike me as sound, up for a laugh few hangups types. I know I'm not the best for turning up at stuff, work kind of gets in the way. Alot.

Anyway, appear to have next Wednesday free. Wondering if anyone famcied either a KTV night or just meeting up for a drink. See a lot of new names on here and realise people may not be up for sharing a KTV with people they don't know so perhaps meeting for some beers in a bar and then just hitting somewhere else, or just an evening of drinks. I know, mid week also sucks. .

PM me if interested. I know a couple of KTV's and have a couple of contact details. Not that I am precious about going to either. Perhaps split room and drink costs and each pays for their own girl. Probably and easier thing to work amongst people who vaguely know each other though, hence the social.

Thoughts?

WGS

NB. May need a good mandarin speaker to do the booking.

Jenbach
10-18-07, 16:50
Lex Moon:

Greetings from Wuxi City!

This is my first visit to the PRC and I am having a terrible time in Wuxi City, as there are no decent WGs here.
Anyway, I am planning to be back in Shanghai tomorrow night and would like to stay at the serviced apartment near Zhongshan Park, which you had recommended.

Could you, please, email me the telephone number of the manager?

Thank you, so much for your help!

Cheers!

ChicagoMan

Douglas23
10-19-07, 06:55
Read with interest the attempts at getting a KTV night together.- I am a big fan of that scene and its always fun with a few folks. Can get to know each other along the way.

If any interest, send me a PM.. I am at Renaissance Yu Yuan, and freebie looks like its falling through. That means KTV or Park 97 or Sauna. I prefer KTV.

Any interested, I will be checking PM's around 6:00 pm tonight.

Cheers

D23

Guybert56
10-19-07, 09:48
Well, it just about doesn't get any better than the problem I now fave choice wise in Pudong! I just had a delightful afternoon delight at the sauna in B2 in the World Plaza building at 855 Pudong Lu. Their phone is 58774638. Near Nextage Mall.

I arrived at 2 PM and did the routine shower and change into PJ's and had about 45 seconds to wait in the lounge before the bevy showed up for inspection. #5 and #17 were not in the line up but I made solid eye contact with #19 and knew she was special. Her only concern was that she was so much shorter than I but was all giggles and cute as we went to the back. She was stunning! Both of the other girls are WAY above average but this young sweetie from Hunan (my best guess is 21 YO. Didn't care, didn't ask! ) She left the room for only moments to get her usual kit ot things but walked right up to me and looked up (way up) into my eyes and pulled me down for a very VERY warm and welcoming first kiss. Was not the ****ty type at all but actually acted as though she was looking forward to whatever was going to happen.

Basically, I just sat on the edge of the massage table and was then able to do some good old down home necking! I was careful to delay the petting part until I got the impression she was going to enjoy it and boy did she ever respond! Her REAL C's were spectacular and she had a solid 9 face and a 10+ smile and a 10+ attitude! I really think this was the nicest most sensual and fulfilling session I have ever experienced.

After some minutes of really good kissing around the lips and upper regions, she got her top off to reveal that she didn't need a padded bra and had great nipples that had already started to darken and get hard. She was doing some of the unnecessary moaning but that soon stopped when I led her to the roman couch and invited her to put her other lips into play. I had been careful to only brush that area in a bit of a tease and started getting the more realistic sounds that goes along with a real GFE. Anyway, she gladly climbed up my chest and made herself comfortable and guided the action to all the places she enjoyed. DATY has NEVER been better with the most amazing sparkling clean area all around the area. I was never much one to do AR but couldn't help myself. She was a lot taken aback but then gave herself into doing that, too! YUMMY!

After what seemed like only a few minutes but was in fact almost 20, she dropped to lowered herself on me almost forgetting to cover up, she was so excited! When she remembered, she dropped to her knees to do a wonderful BBBJ and I invited her back up for some 69 which she gladly did! He was soaking wet when she finally put on the raincoat. No pun intended. And got in a very sexy lying down version of cowgirl so she could continue with the DFK session which kept getting more and more heated. It was wonderful! We made love in a couple of positions for a good while and she certainly had all the contractions indicating a big O for her and that drove me over the top. She was in NO hurray for me to pull out so I just stayed put and actually was able to reload for some more loving. I couldn't fire but it was sure nice! When I did pull out, she gently, almost lovingly cleaned us up and got back in my arms for some more serious necking. She was still excited so I pulled her around and did my best DATY work, ever, and she had a really big O. Funny thing, often when Chinese girls orgasm, they seem to then get all shy and cover themselves. She did that for a minute but then pulled me back up for more DFK! What a kisser! She thanked me! Then we got dressed slowly and kept having hugs and kisses. A TOTAL GFE!

#19: Face 9 Body 9 Attitude 10+ Performance OVER THE TOP! A total 10 experince! 70 minutes was 550! They have given me a VIP card and I intend to abuse it!

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Loveasiangirls
10-19-07, 11:34
Has anybody tried the 2 young Shanghai girls offering a threesome in Craiglist?

ItchyFoot
10-19-07, 13:15
I have been a member for some time but this is my first post. I have lived in Shanghai for the past five years and love the night life. The ZY Bar seems to have changed. It went under new management. But the sign is down and the address on the door is 1771. I have had some amazing experiences there in the past. Had one bad experience.complained and did not have to pay! Anyone know if it is still open?. I have stayed away from there for a while. I was warned about a police sting operation by one of the previous gals. The police tend to crack down on things when the "Congress" is on but relax after.

Ace Gallant
10-19-07, 16:56
I have been a member for some time but this is my first post. I have lived in Shanghai for the past five years and love the night life. The ZY Bar seems to have changed. It went under new management. But the sign is down and the address on the door is 1771. I have had some amazing experiences there in the past. Had one bad experience.complained and did not have to pay! Anyone know if it is still open?. I have stayed away from there for a while. I was warned about a police sting operation by one of the previous gals. The police tend to crack down on things when the "Congress" is on but relax after.The Pub is still open. They had only renovated recently. The 1771 is the number of the actual address of the pub on that street.

Enjoy,

AG

Mark17
10-19-07, 22:52
Has anybody tried the 2 young Shanghai girls offering a threesome in Craiglist?Contacted them, but they wanted too much for my budget. I offered 1000, and they said 1000 each is below what they were looking for.

However, had a friend that was going to China, first time there, and wanted to pre-arrange things if he could. He contacted them and he arranged a visit. Paid 3500! (he is loaded, and never had a Chinese girl, so he went for two.) He said they were both very sexy, playful, and had a great time. They gave him a good gfe, and the one girl did A, not the other, but together gave him plenty. Stayed for over 4 hours, until he was completely milked.

Gualtier Malde
10-20-07, 01:36
I was on the hunt this week in Julu Lu, and bagged the rarest of creatures. A natural white tiger! If you are unfamiliar with the term, a white tiger is a girl with no pubic hair. In this case though, not shaved, but totally natural. She never had any hair there, and it is obvious from the incredible smoothness of her skin in that area.

I will not identify her directly, because she does not appear to be a pro. Just a "buy me drink" girl. And offered herself to me as a freebie only, never asking for any money or gift.

Please don't PM me for her contact info, but I would be interested in PMs from anyone who knows who I'm talking about and can verify it. Would love to trade notes on this fine little cutie.

Hint: she is in one of the Julu Lu bars on the strip, and she is in her early 20s.

Careful, she'll steal your heart (and the cash in your wallet if you buy her all the drinks she asks for.). But she is a good woman, if you find her, treat her well.

Good hunting!

GM

Dars Veider
10-20-07, 02:26
Just came back from a bizz trip to Shanghai and I would like to give you some information:

- Holiday Inn Pudong: there were some SW in front of the hotel.was quoted 500. 1000 RMB for 1 h in your room. But refused, since the girls were only 3s

- TongRen Rd in Puxi: in this small street there are some bars with lots of freelancers. E. G. Manhattan Bar. Was there on a Saturday. Was crowded and a lot of 6s, 7s, 8s and 9s. But there are also some lady boys! Price range: 500 RMB for 1 h to 1000 RMB for the whole night.

To make it easier for you to find this street, I attached a scan of a bizz card of one of the bars. For the taxi drivers! I was told that there is only action on the weekend, and that it is quiet during the week. But I cannot confirm!

- Met Lily in Manhattan Bar on Saturday, asked her for her telephone number, called her on Sunday and she came to my hotel: price 500 RMB for 1 h (pictures, but no BJ, only 1 pop although we negotiated 2 at the beginning, but then she wanted more money. *****! )

Her telephone number is: 13482097986

Pictures in the photo gallery!

Santa
10-20-07, 08:53
However, had a friend that was going to China, first time there, and wanted to pre-arrange things if he could. He contacted them and he arranged a visit. Paid 3500! (he is loaded, .

About $450 US.

Classic58
10-20-07, 10:55
Is there anybody that can give me good advices for nice saunas close to Equatorial Hotel where I will stay for one week? Is it better to rely upon the hotel or to visit places cloese to it?

thanks in advance to the Shanghai deep conoisseurs.

Classic58

Douglas23
10-20-07, 12:11
Went to Buo Duo Sauna for second time in two days.. This time an English speaking host was there. He asked what it was on the paper I wrote yesterday.. I told him it was the words Dressup and Costume.. Asked if ther girls have dressup costumes.. He snickered.. NO.

Well.

Chose #11, and guess what she had in her little bag with the red ropes.. Schoolgirl outift!

Shoe put on on after soapy time and she was a trooper.. From Dongbei and can suck like a Hoover.

For those who don't remember, Buo Duo is beside Century Mart..to right hand if facing- there are two elevators.. Take the scond one WITHOUT the Video Games graphics, or you will end up at Arcade. You will be greeted on Flor 4.. Only goes to 4.. By a Red Jacked escort.

Great spot!

D23

Ringer5
10-20-07, 13:49
I'm afraid I don't have anything to the HIV discussion, but I would like to pick up on one of the suggestions made by the poster. "respect the girls". I recently met a 21-year old girl working in a Pudong bar, and we have become close personal friends. Her story is so familiar most of us would be sceptical. Her family are poor farmers near Nanjing, she came to Shanghai to earn money to put her younger brother and sister through school, couldn't generate enough income in a "normal" job so ended up working in a bar where she does what is necessary to keep the customers happy. She is beautiful, clever, wise beyond her years, and resigned to a profession which she dislikes intensely. She sees this as her family duty. I am aware of the hordes of gullible foreigners who've fallen for a line like this, but I have learned to like and trust her and she knows I will never be a sugar-daddy. She knows she is paid to tolerate being mauled by foreigners of all shapes, sizes and smells, but that does not mean she enjoys it, regardless of the show she may put on. Clearly there are other girls who do enjoy the work more, but on behalf of my friend, please show respect to the girls.

On a lighter note, here are some hints given to her by an experienced BBS girl when she joined the bar:

-women canít have an orgasm, so just get the man to his as fast as possible!

-make a lot of noise, it gets them there faster!

-BJ technique is just like eating a banana but with less tooth action! Just part of a long and fascinating conversation one lazy Sunday afternoon.

"Here are some notes from an expatriate who did catch Aids in spite of wearing a condom every time.

http://www.internationalsexguide. Info/forum/showpost.php? P=654023&postcount=1250

http://www.internationalsexguide. Info/forum/showpost.php? P=654580&postcount=1258

Sounds? Thoughts?

BeEasy

Member #4680
10-20-07, 18:10
Daisy is a fun girl.


Daisy has an awesome ass

Capa

Gualtier Malde
10-20-07, 19:09
Is there anybody that can give me good advices for nice saunas close to Equatorial Hotel where I will stay for one week? Is it better to rely upon the hotel or to visit places cloese to it?

thanks in advance to the Shanghai deep conoisseurs.

Classic58Dude, go to the "search this thread" at the top right side of the page, type in the word "Equatorial" and see what it reveals. This is what we refer to as RTFF.

GM

Loveasiangirls
10-21-07, 03:28
Contacted them, but they wanted too much for my budget. I offered 1000, and they said 1000 each is below what they were looking for.

However, had a friend that was going to China, first time there, and wanted to pre-arrange things if he could. He contacted them and he arranged a visit. Paid 3500! (he is loaded, and never had a Chinese girl, so he went for two.) He said they were both very sexy, playful, and had a great time. They gave him a good gfe, and the one girl did A, not the other, but together gave him plenty. Stayed for over 4 hours, until he was completely milked.Ok, I will try and report back

DragonChan
10-21-07, 06:31
Hey guys,

I'm quite new to the city, living close to Luban Lu and Xietu Lu. I've combed the forum for decently clean bbs in area but no luck. I'm looking for decent oil massage with happy ending, can someone shed some light?

Much appreciated.

DC

DragonChan
10-21-07, 06:55
Hey gang,

I'm pretty new to the city. I'm hoping someone can shed some light on a clean BBS with happy ending around Luban Lu and Xietu Lu.

Much appreciated.

DC

Robbaf
10-21-07, 08:04
Please don't PM me for her contact info, but I would be interested in PMs from anyone who knows who I'm talking about and can verify it.I am not in China, but I had Filipina girlfriend who was also naturally hairless. Smooth as a baby's butt.

Stay safe
Robb

Albert Punter
10-21-07, 09:54
In case you need that, do what I did dome time ago when some business partners stayed in my same serviced aprtments, not far from my room: sneak out and take a taxi to Shanghai Hotel.
This offers some advantages:
- you are sure about quality of service
- you are sure about price paid
- you can select girl

In addition, you avoid risk someone realises a girl is in your room (some of the incall girls can be very noisy).



...
Anyway, I am definitely a outcall kind of guy (many, many of us of there require a low profile in SH and are not in a position to monger as openly as some who post on this board, so outcall offers a discreet and very private alternative)
...

Albert Punter
10-21-07, 09:57
Yes, we know.
Just go to Shanghai Hotel and you will find a sauna where your dreams may materialise ...



...
And for people around Jing An, both massage place in the back of Equatorial and Hilton hotels are leggit.

Albert Punter
10-21-07, 10:19
Some posts claim about prices going up.
I don't think this is the case.

What I noticed recently is that some places ask for money up front.

A few nights ago, I was in need for a quick fix and decided to go to a BBS, which was suggested by another member.
Place looked interesting from outside with 4-5 ****tily dressed girls inside.
Popped in and a girl (fortunately of my liking) came to me and offered BJ for 300 and FS for 400. I said OK and girl asked to pay immediately. I said I would have paid after, but she insisted. I insisted too and discussion went on a couple of minutes, with other girls and a guy involved too.
At this point manager came in and asked again for money. I said no again and started to walk to the door to leave. So, manager asked for 50% of money !
I said no and discussion went on again for another minute till I opened the door and put a foot out.
At this stage, manager realised business was disappearing and said OK, OK.

Finally I was allowed to go with the girl to the back, to do what I wanted to do and to pay after.

BTW, in general service wasn't bad.
BJ was long and accurate and FS was performed in many positions.
Only bad point was she didn't accept CIM.

World Guy Sh
10-21-07, 10:21
Is there anybody that can give me good advices for nice saunas close to Equatorial Hotel where I will stay for one week? Is it better to rely upon the hotel or to visit places cloese to it?

thanks in advance to the Shanghai deep conoisseurs.

Classic58Chaps,

Not of anywhere near here at all - are you? Think it is a good cab ride to find some action. Don't think Classic 58 is going to have much luck.

However, do suggest he RTFF. He might find a gem right under his nose.

WGS

Shsdlux
10-21-07, 14:15
Ok, so here we go again. I know I do not have many posts on my back here, but please can we all stop talking about pricing?

I do not mind if anyone pays 400 in a BBS. If that makes anyone happy then please go about your business and feel bood about it. No harm done. Even if the service is not bad. So basically it was not good otherwise it would say the service was good. So it doesn't really matter. I am white and I would not pay 400, especially in a BBS. So lets drop the discussion about pricing and lets just all pay what we pay.

Anyone who thinks pricing for anything in Shanghai is not going up does not live in the same Shanghai I do and lets not go further on this topic either. Just a side note, is there any place that has gone down in price? That is the real measure for pricing, but if we are paying 400 in a BBS now then something is not right. Also the new Sauna Places in Shanghai are starting at 780 or more. So the new places starting up are also charging more than many of the old places and that clearly shows the upward trend in pricing.

So guys, lets just drop this topic and just pay whatever you feel comfortable with. Hey 1000 at a BBS, not a problem. If you got the cash, just go wild and be happy.


Some posts claim about prices going up.
I don't think this is the case.

What I noticed recently is that some places ask for money up front.

A few nights ago, I was in need for a quick fix and decided to go to a BBS, which was suggested by another member.

Place looked interesting from outside with 4-5 ****tily dressed girls inside.
Popped in and a girl (fortunately of my liking) came to me and offered BJ for 300 and FS for 400. I said OK and girl asked to pay immediately. I said I would have paid after, but she insisted. I insisted too and discussion went on a couple of minutes, with other girls and a guy involved too.

At this point manager came in and asked again for money. I said no again and started to walk to the door to leave. So, manager asked for 50% of money !
I said no and discussion went on again for another minute till I opened the door and put a foot out.

At this stage, manager realised business was disappearing and said OK, OK.

Finally I was allowed to go with the girl to the back, to do what I wanted to do and to pay after.

BTW, in general service wasn't bad.

BJ was long and accurate and FS was performed in many positions.

Only bad point was she didn't accept CIM.

Herr Pollon
10-21-07, 15:17
I said OK and girl asked to pay immediately. I said I would have paid after, but she insisted. I insisted too and discussion went on a couple of minutes, with other girls and a guy involved too.
At this point manager came in and asked again for money. I said no again and started to walk to the door to leave. So, manager asked for 50% of money !
I said no and discussion went on again for another minute till I opened the door and put a foot out.
At this stage, manager realised business was disappearing and said OK, OK.


This is an example (f)or the rest of us to follow.

EDITED

Speer
10-21-07, 16:00
Well after a bit of trouble with the jetlag I figured I should walk it of. Went down Panyu rd to find a decent restaurant (and there are actually a few) also spotten 1 (yes only onle) BBS. It was mentioned here before and it is in a side street/alley about 15 meters from the sidewalk. In the sign it says something like Hanson Hotel and a lot in Chinese as wel. If you walk by and don't see it you will hear it. There were about 6 girls waiting behind the glass door/window and as I walked by (only one of a few lao wai I've seen on this road in the past two days) they were all tapping the window and waving. As far as I could tell from the sidewalk they were 5-8, but you know how it is close up so probably more like 3-6. As the main road was very busy and I was actually looking for a meal I didn't stop to have a look or inform about pricing. There is also a police station verry close by which makes me nervous. Went to have dinner and took a cab to the Bund to have a quick look around. Didn't do much but walk and say no to people trying to sell fake watches, guess I went to the wrong part of town. Took a cab back to the hotel and went down Panyu road again (now about 10pm) and walked to club aquarius as I wanted a beer bad. As I passed BBS they were all at the window waving and tapping away (again or still? ) but verry bussy on the road. Hope it dies down a bit late at night. Anyway club aquarius has two guys outside who pretty much dragged me in saying lovely girls many girls but as I went inside he shoved me into an emty KTV room to which I emetiatally said no (as I was alone and felt like a scam). As I left he yelled all Chinese girls will like you foreighner! , and came running after me grabbed my arm and tried to take me to another place. As I did not trust him I jerked myself free to the great amusement of the girls looking out from the entrance of club aquarius. I am not the smallest guy to say the least so he did not try again. (funny side note: while eating dinner four older Chinese men at a table in the restaurant actually came by and patted my back/squeesed my arm and said something like very strong! And gave me a thumbs up. This was before the aquarius thing so totally out of the blue, I thought this to be funny anyway) Does anyone know of this club aquarius and is it indeed as bad as I think? Also has anyone actually been to the bbs on Panyu rd, if so please share your experience. For tonight I'm thinking of calling out anyway. My back is killing me from a taxi ride gone bad so I'm actually thinking of just ordering a lgit masage. Also on a side street of Panyu rd called Fahuazhen rd is a pub called the green dragon but this was DEAD at 10pm (ish).

Oh well only second night and first day in China so probably some real story to tell soon. Sorry for making you read all the above garbage but hope someone has more information on Panyu rd to make this report actually worth something.

Charles Branson
10-21-07, 17:54
Ok, so here we go again. I know I do not have many posts on my back here, but please can we all stop talking about pricing?

I do not mind if anyone pays 400 in a BBS. If that makes anyone happy then please go about your business and feel bood about it. No harm done. Even if the service is not bad. So basically it was not good otherwise it would say the service was good. So it doesn't really matter. I am white and I would not pay 400, especially in a BBS. So lets drop the discussion about pricing and lets just all pay what we pay.

Anyone who thinks pricing for anything in Shanghai is not going up does not live in the same Shanghai I do and lets not go further on this topic either. Just a side note, is there any place that has gone down in price? That is the real measure for pricing, but if we are paying 400 in a BBS now then something is not right. Also the new Sauna Places in Shanghai are starting at 780 or more. So the new places starting up are also charging more than many of the old places and that clearly shows the upward trend in pricing.

So guys, lets just drop this topic and just pay whatever you feel comfortable with. Hey 1000 at a BBS, not a problem. If you got the cash, just go wild and be happy.Well in the shanghai I live in a lot of prices are going up simply because of idiot lao wai who are clueless and careless about prices and thus drive them up. Often but not always due to the fact that they cannot speak much Chinese and are just generally clueless about how things work outside of their bubble.

Even the taxis drivers are starting to expect tips from lao wai. Not sure if this is translating all over the board or not.

One of the reasons I came here was the affordable environment in which to pursue more interesting ventures and although inflation is inevitable we should not welcome it with open arms.

If you want to throw away your money then go to a KTV or julu lu. Do not make others with similar interests suffer because of your completely inconsiderate nature.

JonnyBGood
10-21-07, 19:17
Staying at Pudi Boutique and if you like small and friendly 5 star hotel this is the place! Nearby Xintandi and Huahai Rd. If nothing else the room is awesome.

Albert Punter
10-21-07, 20:41
Classic58,

Is your a real post ? Or, does anyone hidden behind your nick want to tease us ?

My good friend, Equatorial is in a central location for mongering in general and for saunas in particular !
Make some effort in reading some pages, maybe just some posts, and you will find what you look for.


Is there anybody that can give me good advices for nice saunas close to Equatorial Hotel where I will stay for one week? Is it better to rely upon the hotel or to visit places cloese to it?

thanks in advance to the Shanghai deep conoisseurs.

Classic58

Gualtier Malde
10-21-07, 20:45
Ok, so here we go again. I know I do not have many posts on my back here, but please can we all stop talking about pricing?

I do not mind if anyone pays 400 in a BBS. If that makes anyone happy then please go about your business and feel bood about it. No harm done. Even if the service is not bad. So basically it was not good otherwise it would say the service was good. So it doesn't really matter. I am white and I would not pay 400, especially in a BBS. So lets drop the discussion about pricing and lets just all pay what we pay.

Anyone who thinks pricing for anything in Shanghai is not going up does not live in the same Shanghai I do and lets not go further on this topic either. Just a side note, is there any place that has gone down in price? That is the real measure for pricing, but if we are paying 400 in a BBS now then something is not right. Also the new Sauna Places in Shanghai are starting at 780 or more. So the new places starting up are also charging more than many of the old places and that clearly shows the upward trend in pricing.

So guys, lets just drop this topic and just pay whatever you feel comfortable with. Hey 1000 at a BBS, not a problem. If you got the cash, just go wild and be happy.

Well I will definitely go further on this topic!

As has been said so many times before, if you pay more than the going rate, the girl will know you are a SUCKER. They will even say it to the other girls right in front of you if they don't think you understand Chinese.

With your attitude, it is no surprise you are seeing higher prices, because you are definitely a sucker.

*I* mind if others pay 400 (or 1000!) to a BBS. I certainly don't want to have to deal with a spoiled mamasan and take her off her high horse on pricing.

Stand your ground, man. Higher prices get you *nothing* but being branded as a sucker.

Albert Punter
10-21-07, 20:47
... where prices dropped: the infamous 1771, formerly known as ZY Pub.
After renovation prices went down over 10% .



...
Just a side note, is there any place that has gone down in price?
...

Gualtier Malde
10-21-07, 20:50
Hey gang,

I'm pretty new to the city. I'm hoping someone can shed some light on a clean BBS with happy ending around Luban Lu and Xietu Lu.

Much appreciated.

DC

I think "Clean" and "BBS" are contradictions in terms, at least in Shanghai. If you want a nice massage, with happy ending, search the forum for massage parlors, not for a BBS.

Ringer5
10-22-07, 00:26
I suggest it's a question of degree, considering we're buying a product where the quality is entirely at the discretion of the provider! I don't mind paying a little over the normal rate if that means I get good service from a happy girl who wants to see me come back (even though she may regard me as a bit dumb to pay that much - my pride can stand that). I see that as a better alternative than pushing the price down to a level that makes her wish she didn't have to deal with me, thus affecting the level of service provided. You might argue that she's not obliged to accept that low price, but that's not always the case. My wallet won't go to absurd prices, but I'm more interested in a pleasant exchange than getting the last 100RMB out of the deal.

For me, it comes back to what kind of relationship you want with your service provider - personally, whether I'm buying a massage or a bunch of flowers, I feel better if both parties walk away satisfied with the transaction. I had a great experience in Pudong, last Saturday - arriving from Europe with the feeling that only a massage in my favourite row on Zhang Yang Lu would get me in shape for the day, I went to LK Massage and had a couple of hours of oil massage with a very nice girl from Chengdu. We chatted, had a lot of laughs, she offered a happy ending and just said "you decide, no problem" when I asked what the tip would be. I gave her more than I normally would because she had such a nice attitude, showered, had a friendly chat with the ladies at the door, and went on my way feeling better about the human race. Maybe I'm a sucker, but it got my weekend off to a good start!

"Well I will definitely go further on this topic!

As has been said so many times before, if you pay more than the going rate, the girl will know you are a SUCKER. They will even say it to the other girls right in front of you if they don't think you understand Chinese.

With your attitude, it is no surprise you are seeing higher prices, because you are definitely a sucker.

I mind if others pay 400 (or 1000!) to a BBS. I certainly don't want to have to deal with a spoiled mamasan and take her off her high horse on pricing.

Stand your ground, man. Higher prices get you *nothing* but being branded as a sucker."

Farmboy5
10-22-07, 02:20
Well I will definitely go further on this topic!

As has been said so many times before, if you pay more than the going rate, the girl will know you are a SUCKER. They will even say it to the other girls right in front of you if they don't think you understand Chinese.

With your attitude, it is no surprise you are seeing higher prices, because you are definitely a sucker.

*I* mind if others pay 400 (or 1000!) to a BBS. I certainly don't want to have to deal with a spoiled mamasan and take her off her high horse on pricing.

Stand your ground, man. Higher prices get you *nothing* but being branded as a sucker.

What he said!

The discussions on prices are among most valuable information on the board.

Herr Pollon
10-22-07, 03:15
About prices, we should(as they do)create a "cartel" and set target prices for every establishment. I am sure that, if everybody sticks to them we could have some impact.

Ikarus0815
10-22-07, 04:03
I am not in China, but I had Filipina girlfriend who was also naturally hairless. Smooth as a baby's butt.

Stay safe,

RobbHi Robb,

Where a found a phillpino in Shanghai? Thats exactly I am looking for.

CK Cheung
10-22-07, 05:54
There is a FS massage place at the corner of Panyu and FaHuan Zhen Road. Which is right across from the Crown Plaza. Haven't been there for a while but I assume it still includes line-up selection of 7s, 8s, and limited 9s, red rope. It should set you back about RMB700. Actual massage is somewhat lame. The massage rooms have sex lair feel to it. Very velvet.

BBS at hansen hotel. No FS only HJ (RMB 150).

Walk north on Panyu Road until you hit Yan nan road. You'll see the Howard Johnson hotel. On the left of it about 50 meters. You'll see Lucky Sauna. This place is much better than desricbed above. But no line ups. But girls are usually attractive 8 or 9s. Costs: RMB800-900

Herr Pollon
10-22-07, 10:56
Hi Robb,

Where a found a phillpino in Shanghai? Thats exactly I am looking for.

Tong Ren lu. Beware of ladyboys.

Softy
10-22-07, 11:41
Ok, so here we go again. I know I do not have many posts on my back here, but please can we all stop talking about pricing?

I do not mind if anyone pays 400 in a BBS. If that makes anyone happy then please go about your business and feel bood about it. No harm done. Even if the service is not bad. So basically it was not good otherwise it would say the service was good. So it doesn't really matter. I am white and I would not pay 400, especially in a BBS. So lets drop the discussion about pricing and lets just all pay what we pay.

Anyone who thinks pricing for anything in Shanghai is not going up does not live in the same Shanghai I do and lets not go further on this topic either. Just a side note, is there any place that has gone down in price? That is the real measure for pricing, but if we are paying 400 in a BBS now then something is not right. Also the new Sauna Places in Shanghai are starting at 780 or more. So the new places starting up are also charging more than many of the old places and that clearly shows the upward trend in pricing.

So guys, lets just drop this topic and just pay whatever you feel comfortable with. Hey 1000 at a BBS, not a problem. If you got the cash, just go wild and be happy.

I have seen this attitude ruin more mongering destinations in the world than you have probably visited.

On a practical level, I am normally able to get exceptional GFE in every mongering place I go, and complain about it when I do not. I have never seen a correlation between paying more and getting better service. I have seen a mild correlation between paying less and getting better service; that happens when you treat the woman like a lady. When you do, some women put the commercial transaction further down the ladder of priorities and actually want to show you appreciation by charging less on the way out the door.

Paying well above the market rate does absolutely nothing except distort the market and make you poorer than you would be otherwise. There is absolutely nothing to be gained unless the mere act of spending money makes you feel good.

John08
10-22-07, 13:23
Hey guys,

I'm going to be staying in Shanghai at the Grand Hyatt for the weekend and I have yet to have enjoyed the mognering scene out there. Any advice for places relatively close to the hotel or that I can access speaking little Mandarin would be greatly appreciated! I will be sure to post the good results and perhaps some pics upon return. Thanks!

Eaglestar
10-22-07, 14:50
Well said Softy..... Shsdlux is nothing but a leach. Take a look at his reports and he even admits he is a lurker gathering information but also as you can see from his grand total of 14 posts he has contributed NOTHING. Worthy of the "ignore" which is where he belongs and is going for me. He is an embarrassment to those of us in Shanghai.

ES


I have seen this attitude ruin more mongering destinations in the world than you have probably visited.

On a practical level, I am normally able to get exceptional GFE in every mongering place I go, and complain about it when I do not. I have never seen a correlation between paying more and getting better service. I have seen a mild correlation between paying less and getting better service; that happens when you treat the woman like a lady. When you do, some women put the commercial transaction further down the ladder of priorities and actually want to show you appreciation by charging less on the way out the door.

Paying well above the market rate does absolutely nothing except distort the market and make you poorer than you would be otherwise. There is absolutely nothing to be gained unless the mere act of spending money makes you feel good.

AsianLover
10-22-07, 15:10
The best place to find them is on Tongren Lu. This is a small street just past the Portman Hotel.

It you head west on Nanjing Road, pass the Portman on your right, then you will get to TGL. Make a left turn and walk about 50 meters and you will see a strip of bars on your left. The bars are very different. Here's a summary:

Manhattan: this bar has Phillipino WG. They seem to start showing up in force after 10 PM. If you look around and make eye contact, they will come over to you and start talking. They speak English. In no time, they will be flirting, then want to go to your hotel. Be careful as there are a few ladyboys in the crowd.

Judys: a good bar with Phillipino and Chinese WG. Some locals hang out there as well.

The other bars on this part of TGL are, IMHO, a waste of time as the girls will hit you up for expensive drinks. I am sure take out is available, but you might as well go to Manhattan or Judys as the selection is better and you don't have that buy me an overpriced drink BS.

Malones: this is an American pub that is just north of Nanjing Rd on TGL. This part has a phillipino band playing classic rock and roll. In fact, they are pretty good. The bar has 3 levels. The lower level has the band and there are many chinese WG there. Many don't look like WG as they are simply dressed, but don't worry, most are available for take out. You may also find a horny expate there as well.

One word of caution: the Southen end of TGL has a lot of people hanging out on it, due to the number of bars. While there were 3 cops there at night, I would urge you to be very cautious of your surroundings.

AL

Speer
10-22-07, 15:14
Thank you CC for filing in the info I did not have on Panyu Rd. I actually did see the massage place across from the crown plaza. It is the one with a big yellow massage sign right on the front of the building. Didn't go in because I expected a fs massage place to be more "hidden". Newbie mistake I guess. Oh well back in Shanghai soon and guess I'll go and give it a try.

Herr Pollon
10-22-07, 16:11
With your attitude, it is no surprise you are seeing higher prices, because you are definitely a sucker.


I have no seniority here, and my post have very little added value, but I think this kind of expresion is unnecessary.


EDITED: BTW I just got back from XinTianDi, I saw two russians seating near (not in front of) Latino and a bunch of RussianWannaBe TS hanging around.

Bounce Around
10-22-07, 18:44
Just got in from SZ tonight at hongqiao, what a godawful taxi line and drive to this place. Bfnw (butt f****** no where) at least thats what it seems like at night (100 RMB cab ride with the driver asking everyone for directions)! And at 688RMB/night with no real english channels on the TV and NO in-room safe, one of the lousiest hotels I have stayed at. Maybe the morning will bring better things! I have to stay here for biz reasons. Otherwise my personal option for the two nights I have to be here would have been Shanghai hotel!

Anyway, 22:30 check-in and ask the bell boy if the inhouse sauna/massage place is open, he says yes. I haven't closed the door to the room after he left and the phone rings. 'you want massage', I say yes, 'sex massage 600, Chinese massage 200'. I'd have gone for the former, but my bones and my schedule says go with Chinese massage. A good relaxing massage and now this post.

Will be here tomorrow 23rd, and may be available for a night/evening out. Want to go to Xin tian di and check out the scene, not necessarily mongering (I was there a month ago and had a decent Caipirinha at the brazillian place). PM me with your schedule/ideas. BBS's not out of the question, but I am back in SZ on 24th so its no biggie with 130/150 ST there.

Point of this story and related to some other conversations on other threads, practically all hotels offering the inhouse sauna will send up a P4P, don't exceed 600/700. YMMV.

Lao Ma
10-22-07, 23:37
with all due respect to mongers on both sides of this issue, I'd like to add that our little ISG community here is tiny, and our combined revenue per night or week or whatver other metric one chooses is not anything close to the revenue that WG's get from non-ISG readers. If you think one or two ISG members who overpay is distorting the market, I'd have to say that's nuts. I don't think ISG members set the prevailing market rates at all; it's outsiders who blow into town and have wallets full of hundreds of US dollars or euros. Remember, for the US based monger who comes here 2 or 3 times a year, he's used to paying sometimes over 150 dollars for a rub and tug with a happy ending at the local asian massage parlour, or 300 -400 bucks for an escort with silicon fun bags.

Pay what you are comfortable with but if you overpay, you're pissing money down the drain. If you overpay in general, I hope my company can sell you some of our goods and services :)

Ringer5
10-23-07, 00:40
You are mis-quoting me. The "sucker" statement was made by Gaultier Malde, not by me. I quoted it in my response. For some reason, sections I quote show up in quotation " " marks, not in the framed box that others get. If anyone can help me fix that, I would be grateful. Regards to all

"Originally Posted by Ringer5

With your attitude, it is no surprise you are seeing higher prices, because you are definitely a sucker.


I have no seniority here, and my post have very little added value, but I think this kind of expresion is unnecessary.

Workmaal
10-23-07, 00:56
A couple of weeks ago I was visiting Shanghai. I've visited China once before and I just wanted a good time. I thought I knew what to expect based on my first experience (at a spa) but I was mistaken. This time around I was taken for a fool.

While I was walking on Nan Jing Lu near the Bund, a girl approached me and asked if I wanted to buy something. Watches, jewelry, shoes, clothes.... GIRLS.

That had my attention so she led me a few blocks over to a residential area and brought me to a KTV place.

They sat me down in a private room with a couple of girls. I asked how much for sex and the manager told me 500 after I relaxed with the girls for a bit.

They asked me what I'd like to drink. The Drinks were like 100 RMB and each of the girls wanted one. I tried to decline but the manager said that it was expected that I should treat the girls for at least one drink. Then the waiter started bringing in shit I didn't even order. I was getting a little upset. Finally, I had enough of that crap. I called the manager over and told him I only wanted sex, not drinks and snacks.

So they brought me the bill. Bastard charged me 1500 RMB, but I negotiated down to 1000. I felt like punching him. Not only that, but I was then told that I had to wait until 10:00 PM for sex because the girls were working the KTV. What a load of crap.

I know better now and won't get caught in that kind of scam ever again.

Mock A Bee
10-23-07, 05:01
The only thing paying more for a girl does, is lighten your wallet and reinforce the practice of adding a Lao Wai tax. Nothing more.

From those of us who live in China, to the rest of you, please don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the soup for us.

MAB

Mock A Bee
10-23-07, 05:12
Beware of Teahouse scams

I have a firsthand account from someone who was conned this month. He is a complete newbie to China, totally vulnerable.

He was baited by the usual pretty girl on Nanjing Lu near Citic Square. He was using a map to figure out where he was going. She was cute, polite and helpful. Just his luck it started to rain and she took him to a teahouse to wait out the rain.

In the end, they initially bullied him for 3,000rmb but he said he didn't have that much on him, and they settled for 1,500rmb.

They had the usual thugs threatening to beat the shit out of him, etc...

Be careful.

MAB

Herr Pollon
10-23-07, 08:13
You are mis-quoting me. The "sucker" statement was made by Gaultier Malde, not by me. I quoted it in my response. For some reason, sections I quote show up in quotation " " marks, not in the framed box that others get. If anyone can help me fix that, I would be grateful. Regards to all

"Originally Posted by Ringer5

With your attitude, it is no surprise you are seeing higher prices, because you are definitely a sucker.


Well he has 25 times my post and has add 100 more useful info than me, but I still think that kind of language is not appropiate.

Hobert Am
10-23-07, 08:25
Any experience on the BBSs on Zhaohua Lu? Kinda near ZhongShan park (my sense of direction in this city isn't that good)

I was walking around with a friend who was a local, he said the barber shops with the pink twirly things (dunno what they are called) are usually BBS (as opposed to the green twirly things)

PassinThrough
10-23-07, 08:40
Well he has 25 times my post and has add 100 more useful info than me, but I still think that kind of language is not appropiate.

Herr,

Why don't you stop complaining about name calling and post something useful. I know Gaultier Malde, MAB, AG and many others who contribute very good information. Take a look at their posts and try to post something that the people who read this forum would find interesting and useful.

PIT

Herr Pollon
10-23-07, 08:49
EDITED.

I donīt want to argue.

Fly Surfing
10-23-07, 10:01
Thanks all to give me some information concerning the best place to find freebies!

So according to your point of view, Park 97 and Rojam are the best place?

What do you think?

Thanks for your answers!

Herr Pollon
10-23-07, 11:01
Thanks all to give me some information concerning the best place to find freebies!

So according to your point of view, Park 97 and Rojam are the best place?

What do you think?

Thanks for your answers!

Wagas (which I donīt think has been mentioned in this forum) can be a great place to meet normal girls (even some expats) from 5 to 7 pm.

Mock A Bee
10-23-07, 11:03
A couple of weeks ago I was visiting Shanghai. I've visited China once before and I just wanted a good time. I thought I knew what to expect based on my first experience (at a spa) but I was mistaken. This time around I was taken for a fool.

While I was walking on Nan Jing Lu near the Bund, a girl approached me and asked if I wanted to buy something. Watches, jewelry, shoes, clothes.... GIRLS.

That had my attention so she led me a few blocks over to a residential area and brought me to a KTV place.

They sat me down in a private room with a couple of girls. I asked how much for sex and the manager told me 500 after I relaxed with the girls for a bit.

They asked me what I'd like to drink. The Drinks were like 100 RMB and each of the girls wanted one. I tried to decline but the manager said that it was expected that I should treat the girls for at least one drink. Then the waiter started bringing in shit I didn't even order. I was getting a little upset. Finally, I had enough of that crap. I called the manager over and told him I only wanted sex, not drinks and snacks.

So they brought me the bill. Bastard charged me 1500 RMB, but I negotiated down to 1000. I felt like punching him. Not only that, but I was then told that I had to wait until 10:00 PM for sex because the girls were working the KTV. What a load of crap.

I know better now and won't get caught in that kind of scam ever again.

Workmaal, thanks for sharing your misfortune.

Basically, this girl was a tout, only she was a wolf in sheeps clothing.

For those of you who do not know any better, it has been said countless times on the forum. Don't go with a tout. In this case, the tout was in the form a girl. Not all touts are A**HOLE men pestering you if you want a girl.

Use the forum for information to visit relatively safe and tested places. Caveat emptor, YMMV however.

MAB

Guybert56
10-23-07, 12:36
I wish someone else would make a report on B2 World Plaza 855 Pudong Lu. I feel like I am beginning to sound like a tout! I went back this afternoon about 3 and requested #19 after my extraordinarily great time last time and was assured by the guys out front she was available. After I showered and was relaxing in the lounge, the little girl came in to let me know they were mistaken. So, I asked about #5 and she was out. Then #17 and she was there! Not a bad second choice! I reported on her desire to please on an earlier post. She really is a great performer! Has a mouth and tongue that could tie shoelaces! Man oh man does she do great BBBJ! This time she insisted on doing some fire (no ice) and some really deep AR. But then I am pretty good with my tongue so she was enjoying herself as well. We lost track of time and I let go after a solid GFE hour! At one point with her legs up in the air and my aim a little off, I almost hit her starfish. She quickly said no so I guess that is not an option. (That's OK with me.) She came (yes, I know a fake from a real O as I almost had my Di-Di squeezed off! ) with me and it was great! THEN, after a tender clean up, she did more BBBJ just to be sweet! Then something new and weird. She took my di-di and opened the tip and stuck her tiny little HARD nipple inside! That was a new one! LOTs of DFK and necking all during the session and really seemed reluctant to leave. Big hugs for wanting her to have a BFE. She gets a kick out of the smiley face I put on her 'score card' for the boss.

NOW. Someone else needs to confirm or refute.

~90 minutes on the clock: 650
#17 Face 8 Body 8 Attitude 10+ Performance 10+ (a REALLY great lay!)
Surroundings...same room as before with Roman couch and massage bed. 5-6
Overall experince and value: 10 Will be back!!

#5, #17, and #19 are all WELL worth the visit with #19 getting a slight nod for her overall numbers...especially her body!

John08
10-23-07, 12:53
Hi all,

Just a quick Shanghai Question that would be greatly appreciated if answered. I have been browsing this forum and have a general idea of the mongering scene out in Shanghai; however, any specific tips/places that are new too go would be great!

I will be staying at the Grand Hyatt this weekend. If theres anything thats close or of easy accesss from this area in Shanghai please let me know brothers. What prices should I expect to see and are there opportunities for three girls as well?

Your help is much appreciated!

Bounce Around
10-23-07, 12:54
Ok. Firstly this is a very basic, and in my opinion, a very pricey hotel for the quality of lodging. I paid less to stay near nanjing lu. It is apparently for the Chinese and japanese business men on the lower end of the spectrum Shanghai price wise, though I see other foriegners, I think it may be near some exhibitions etc. I have to stay here for other reasons. Never again though. It's just not for me, but its a decent hotel otherwise to rest your head (pun intended).

On a more brighter note, this is a monger hotel. I don't know if it is girl friendly from outside, but inside all the inneuendos to sex are fairly evident. Especially where the spa is concerned.

I didn't get room service, but went up to the spa. A local or ABC or someone with a guide would probably get better service. It wasn't that the service wasn't good; they were attentive, I was probably a novelty asking for the Hong Kong massage especially when the attendants imitated the sex act with their fingers and I nodded a yes, and basically felt out of place. It did have a bit of a seedy atmosphere, again maybe just me.

Get naked with two guys watching, take a shower, stand on a towel while one drys you and pats your back. Get led up through this maze of steps and doors, dingy small room, with a bed basically, bars on the cieling but I didn't get any freaky service. Bring in a girl and ask if ok. I say yes, she was, and I just wanted to blow a load. Short BBBJ and then cover and on to the deeds. Multiple positions. Very loud screaming, I'm not going to read too much into that. Some kissing no French. Down to business service, but again YMMV.

Damage 600. Same price for room service, I would opt for that (if you have a room), more comfortable. Hell, I just might do that again tonight, gotta feed the beast and since nobody PMed me with any chance to co-monger: (I know its a weekday, or maybe I give off a vibe!

I don't have access to a scanner, so I am writing the contact info for the hotel, I hope it doesn't get edited out, it is readily available by a google search for the hotel name.

ADD: 1810 West Gao Ke Road, Pu Dong, Shanghai, Tel 50898888.

Back to Shenzhen tomorrow and hopefully greener pastures.

World Guy Sh
10-23-07, 13:59
Went into the BBS recently discussed on Panyu Lu (signs say Fanyu Lu) several weeks ago. It was a good, relaxed HJ, perhaps one of the better ones without an upsell to two girls. Does feel very exposed coming back out but remember many Chinese just turn a blind eye and don't care.

For those heading this way it does appear to be frequently closed. Not just the lights off, but with the guard down as well and lock on the door, although a bit more consistent of late.

In a January report Monkey King suggested that the Fa Hua Zhen road Massage place was under the same management as 500 Wuzhong Lu. Had also heard it was a bit run down although may have been closed for a redecoration. Intend to make a visit very shortly. Will of course post back.

Club Aquarius. Internet searches bring back nothing on this place. It loooks huge and often has expensive looking cars parked outside. I have always guessed it was a higher end KTV but may be wrong. Not a place I would have thought about hauling into for a beer. Perhaps some of us should try it out. You never know.

Green Dragon. Mixed reports. Some say it is just a local but increasingly reports of 'attractive' girls hanging around outside and some friends say that girls there are there to make money. Seems to show a lot of sport as well. A few other popular bars in this area as well and another new, but old massage place seems to have reopened near them.

Thanks CK Cheung for the info on New Lucky Garden. Any kind of review? Girls sound good looking but a premium price. Is it worth it? How long?

Hobert Am. Zhaozhou Lu. Scan back through the forum. Several posts, including mine on these. Vary from HJ only through to FS. Price up to 300RMB if I recall but may have paid more. All begins to merge a bit.

My update for the time being.

WGS

Who says "Neve go with a tout, never go with a tout, never go with a tout" Just keep saying it to yourself. You won't.

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World Guy Sh
10-23-07, 14:12
...and probably still am really.

Not so much advice, but an idea.

When I joined, I set up an email account especially for the site. Why? So I could subscribe to the Shanghai and Beijing threads. You get a daily update into your in box.

This creates your own off line version of the forum which you can scanback through, search and delete unwanted items from. It's been really useful and means I can access at work etc and not go through the net. It's got all the core items in I need.

If you are coming to Shanghai you have an online database. Start a month before and the, more than likely, 'stupid' (read obvious) questions will be rapidly answered. You'll know where to stay, where to go, what to pay, and what happens if you go with a tout.

It also provides a great way of ensuring that should you not have ready email access you can still get to ISG. You don't have to print reams of pages off with details on. It's there. And when you are done, you can post back for the rest.

I still find it a better way of searching back through posts than using the search function here (which isn't bad anyway).

Simple, but seems worthwhile. And the daily update is invariably entertaining reading.

WGS

Remember: "Never go with a tout, never go with a tout, never go with a tout"

OK, we all ge the message but if we all stated this on all posts, there would be absolutely no excuse.

Bounce Around
10-23-07, 16:58
So, I did it. I'm in a hotel room with no english TV, no desire to go anywhere in a taxi with my location and alone, and I can't watch all the movies on my laptop. So, I broke down well against my budget and will power and ordered up room service. I'll have to thumb a lift to the airport tomorrow. I was hoping for a GFE that I didn't get earlier and had to try.

So, I opened the door and there was this beauty. Tall, big boobs and not skinny (not chubby either) nice pigu! Face was cute, and young at 20 from Shandong; Gao Mei I think her name was and she gave me her number; but wouldn't let me take photos. And considering I have work pics on the same device, it does get awkward scrolling through pictures in a meeting and trying that lightning fast scroll before the picture fully loads showing what may be interpreted as a booby: I'm too lazy to off load images every day.

She wouldn't give me BBBJ, and did kiss but wouldn't french, she kept repeating this Chinese word which either meant big or beautiful, who cares! :.D Since she seemed more in the mood I decided to work on her a bit, kissing the body, DATY etc. That drove her wild. Got extremely wet, and I'd like to think had the 'O'. Because I think at some time the fake moaning turned to real and so much moisture. Either way I finished in doggy, and it was good. Kind of a shame that I wasted the earlier money on simple shot in a dingy sauna room. Same damage, but she asked for a tip; call me a sucker, but especially when I've had a good time I gave her an extra 100; if I could speak Chinese I would have probably not tipped, I think. And its not like the BBSs where you negotiate infront of boss and girl.

We shared a cigarette and could have cuddled and talked etc, she asked me if she could get dressed, after taking a shower. Since language is a barrier and again, no english TV I let her go. I know the question is, you do have Chinese TV and she's Chinese, but. Ehh. I think eventhough I haven't joined the Freebie discussion the thrill of mongering is leaving me, maybe once I am back in SZ the BBS can cure me. If I can pull 3-4 shots with three different girls in the same price then that's maybe worth it. Or one LT. I guess the trick is to find a way to occupy your time otherwise in the hotel knowing pussy is only a push of a button away.

Shanghai Tom
10-24-07, 01:46
Folks

I've been looking back over ISG SH thread after long break of reading it and generally lurking about. Interesting. I've lived and worked in SH (white expat) for over 5 years, been reading this for maybe 3 years, doing the stuff it talks about for about 4. 9 years. Ahem. Anyway.

Some random observations:

1. Prices from the street have remained pretty much constant for the whole time I have been here. Hovering around the 400 kuai mark for go home with the lady (yours or hers) and spend rest of the night, which is what I prefer to do (from about midnight/0100hrs which is when I tend to fall out of a bar and be thinking of such things). It seemed to go down a touch to 300 or even 200 a little while ago (end 06/early 07? ), if you were not enormously worried about looks, but seems to have steadied back. This is Julu/ Huashan Lu etc. Tong Ren has never really become my scene so cannot comment there (riotous days of Maoming RIP sadly gone, God that was good in '03/'04 sigh, BBSs not my taste). However, mention of Filipinas may tempt me in Tong Ren direction. Recommendations welcome

2. There are several ladies out there who have been around on the same ground for several years. There seem to be a lot from Nanjing, or maybe that is just random. Lily? Ling Ling with the printed biz card? Linda (and her 22 year old sister who is v cute)?

3. Hengshan west of Sashas (and sometimes even outside Sashas or even the Blarney) seems to have become a hunting ground again. But not tried it recently. Generally I have not done well on Hengshan, and I have heard some dubious things about it.

4. I would very firmly warn colleagues against going with (with a few exceptions) more than one girl, as the risk of wallet pilfering increases. I have been lucky almost every time, but know several people who have not been. OK to go with someone you have been with before and trust, but a complete stranger. Unwise. Believe me, been there and got the sodding T-shirt, but luckily I only carry minimum cash on such nights.

5. On the flip side, I have been to their home with quite a few gals in my time. Why do they almost always seem to live somewhere just north of the station?. And, as long as one is sensible, it's cool. Good way to see some of "the real China", if you do not mind some slightly quizzical looks from their neighbours early in the morning. If you find someone you like, get their number, remember the street address (check it in daylight, never looks the same as in the dark), and you have may have a friend for a while. I've had meals cooked for me (of varying quality, to be fair), visits to their local restaurant, and on one notable and slightly embarrassing (if amusing) occasion, a visit to a bank for the lady to deposit her, er, takings, before we had lunch. It's all v colourful anyway I have also been taken to a number of, ah, short time hotels, if the lady has not got the space (or sufficiently nonchalant neighbours).

6. I detect some rumblings about buying drinks for gals in the "talkie bars". Yeah, can be irritating. However, if you are to be here for a while, it is worth cultivating a few gals and their bar owners (perhaps even more important), it's not really that expensive (30-40 kuai a drink, hey not big deal), the bars are sometimes useful to gather SH gossip, meet new folks and generally hang out. Some of e. G. The Huashan Lu bars have been there for a long time, the owners for much longer. Depending on the gal/bar, you might get further. Frankly, "talkie bars" are basically for talk. But talk can be useful. Time spent in reconnaissance, as the military say.

7. Overall, my advice is. Be careful, but openminded, and treat the ladies well. Courtesy costs nothing, and is generally repaid in kind.

Anyway, hope useful, and enjoy Shanghai!

Shanghai Tom

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Doctor Dandy
10-24-07, 02:07
good day,

it has been some time since i was last giving some info on the meat market here in shanghai.

walked down furongjiang road the other day and as i was coming close to tienshan road my favorite hj place was so close that i thought "what the hell" went in and was presented to no. 28 a good looking girl from henan province, she was tall had nice breast and not the small cup cake type one normally encounters around here. i liked her appearance and she smiled in a nice way.

as always you are led into the small locker room to undress and then put on the very loose shorts, good for hand action during washing. got into the shower room and lay face down on the inflatable bed with a shower mounted right above you. it actually reminds me of an automatic car wash.

she started with the washing of my legs, slowly moving further up and letting her finger touch my star slightly but enough to get me excited. she just kept on washing all over the back and always reminding me that my star was there. it was time to turn over and i had quite a hard on as i rolled over. she noticed that with a smile and had a peek inside my shorts which were very loose around the waist. my balls and my cock was washed from all different angles with her making sure it was all the time standing at attention in anticipation of the coming hj session. after a while she let me get up and dried my body and i was given a new pair of dry shorts and led into the massage room.

i had some tea and we just had a few minutes of conversation in my best ďtaxi chineseĒ. she got the oil and started to work my body while i was face down. she knew already from the shower that the way to jump start me is by touching the star, it gave me a good hard on and i soon turned over to lie on my back. initially i guess she intended just to give me the standard treatment but that was far from my intention. she sat down on the bed and i started to touch her legs from feet and up, she had a soft spot around her knees so i worked that area and then moved hand further up. she had already started working on my didi but i tried to think about all kinds of disgusting stuff to keep him from being too excited, i wanted to last longer to give time to work her. she spread her legs a bit so i thought now is time for the attack. moved my fingers up to touch her panties and it didnít take long before i felt moisture of excitement. she was a little shy but i sat up and kissed her around her ear and shoulder while i moaned a bit. my observation is that most chinese girls enjoys being touched and kissed on ears and shoulders. it worked and i managed to get my fingers inside her panties and touch the temple. she was hot and wet and i made the finger test, smelling the juice and tasting it. no sign of fish so she was clean. she actually then opened up so i could work her breasts, they were not the biggest i have seen here but they were soft and the nipples hard. got a finger inside her and started working the rough spot on the upper front side, she definitely liked that because she started rubbing my didi harder as she moaned. got another finger inside and started to finger fuck her slowly and then faster while using the other hand to work her clit. it took around two minutes before she cramped completely and had an orgasm so extreme that i have rarely seen it before. she was a sensitive girl. she lay down beside me and gathered some strength before she gave me the final hj treatment that made me come.

no. 28 can definitely be recommended. her looks would be a 7, body an 8 and performance a 10 even though no fs. performance ratings got so high because she was willing to abstract from the normal service of just making me come. i love the thrill of being able to manipulate with their minds. i got her mobile number and we agreed that i can call her for private session next week.

after the private session i shall let you know the outcome in details.

the wallet damage is standard rate of rmb 308, a bit pricy perhaps for just happy ending by hj but i have to admit that i thoroughly enjoy the car wash almost as much as the hj. the exact location is on furongjiang road right between tienshan road and maotai road. right opposite there are numerous small street eating places.

happy hunting!

dd

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Gualtier Malde
10-24-07, 04:12
I suggest it's a question of degree, considering we're buying a product where the quality is entirely at the discretion of the provider! I don't mind paying a little over the normal rate if that means I get good service from a happy girl who wants to see me come back (even though she may regard me as a bit dumb to pay that much - my pride can stand that). I see that as a better alternative than pushing the price down to a level that makes her wish she didn't have to deal with me, thus affecting the level of service provided. You might argue that she's not obliged to accept that low price, but that's not always the case. My wallet won't go to absurd prices, but I'm more interested in a pleasant exchange than getting the last 100RMB out of the deal.

For me, it comes back to what kind of relationship you want with your service provider - personally, whether I'm buying a massage or a bunch of flowers, I feel better if both parties walk away satisfied with the transaction.

Ringer, your note indicates you are missing the subtleties of the China culture. Of course on the one hand you are right - if you push the price down too low, you end up with a provider who is pissed off and will give you poor service, because you have caused her to lose face (she accepted a price too low).

On the other hand, if you pay too much, you have lost face in her eyes, whether you know it or not. You, to her, are a weak foreigner.

If you stand up for your principles, and negotiate for the correct price (they and you know what it is) she will respect you *more* than if you go over.

If you want to treat a provider extra nice, you need to separate the *treat* from the payment. Over payment is a sucker's game, but giving a gift after the fact is different - romantic. Separating them establishes the fact that you are a shrewd negotiator (something any girl in Shanghai will respect) and that you are a generous romantic man.

See the difference? Give it a try next time. Push hard for the right price, then if you really want to, *after* you pay and *after* she accepts and when all that is left is the kiss at the door, offer her a gift, a thank you, which will be rewarded the next time you see her - which may be very soon, because (assuming you tipped her for the right reasons, which is you both enjoyed each other) she'll be texting you. (you did trade numbers, right?)

Good luck,

GM

Fritobugger
10-24-07, 04:55
You've done such a nice sell job for this place I will make the extra effort to try it out later this week or this weekend.

That is if I don't check out the Jin Qiao Hotel instead.

Thanks for the report though. It sounds really good.

WinteRain
10-24-07, 05:17
Since we're on the topic of newbie lessons recently, I figured I should share an experience recently.

Went to a BBS along a strip of 5 BBSes nearby a month ago, and just went back to give them another chance last night. The place is along Wu Li Qiao road / Ju Men Road. To be honest, I'm not recommending for anyone to go there unless you're adventurous and/or wanting to try your luck at finding a cutie among a pig farm.

I picked the nicest looking girl of the strip, and settled for the same price I paid the last time, RMB400 for overnight takeaway. Which I think is really cheap, but I haven't been to other BBSes, can anyone shed any light on this price? It's basically the only reason why I went there anyway.

After the first bad experience (the girl only did FS, no BJ at all), I made it a point to make clear what the girl could offer infront of the mamasan. So this time, she assured that the girl could do everything. I felt assured, and paid up the RMB400 before bringing her back, same as the first time. BAD MISTAKE.

To make the long story short, she went back, we did it once, rested for about 20 mins, and did it again, and then she started getting dressed (it was about 2 AM). I was surprised, shocked. Initially I thought she was getting dressed to sleep, since the weather was a little cold. But no, she was leaving. I told her that by "Bao Ye" (overnight booking), it meant she should stay till at least 9 AM! Then she gave the most farked up excuse ever. According to HER, LT means doing once before sleeping, and doing once after waking up. So since I've achieved the 2 times already, she should be leaving. I didn't argue, because even if I forced her to stay, the night wouldn't be pleasant. But I realized both bad experiences were probably because I paid the full amount upfront before bringing them back. Next time I should probably just pay half, and pay the remaining half before the girl goes back.

Girl was a 6 or 7. B hooters but naturally firm to the touch. Pussy was more hairy than King Kong though. Gave decent BBBJ and mediocre FJ. Manage to take a couple of non-nude pics of her.

Check them' out.

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Blackjai
10-24-07, 09:56
I wish someone else would make a report on B2 World Plaza 855 Pudong Lu. IHi,

I just tried World Plaza Pudong this afternoon and to keep it real short for those who doesn't wanna read the entire post, its definitely a good spot.

Ok for those who are willing to read here it is.

I took a taxi from the Pearl this afternoon, it was a really quite ride, you can't really miss the buidling once you are there, but it doesn't have any flashing neon signs outside like most massage place, in fact I couldn't see any signs until I got to B1 I think.

The shop front is quite dim, no really any signs of a massage place, if it wasn't for my ability to read Chinese, I don't think I could tell that it was a massage place (read the small sign on B1), went in and there are a couple of guys standing around asking what do I want, and since I look Chinese, they said the place was members only, so I said my foreign friend told me about this place and I am not a mainland Chinese (they won't allow mainland Chinese customers), they ask for prove which pissed me off a bit but anyway in I go.

Got to the locker room, nothing to write home about, but guys if you are going to go there, make sure you check the locks of your locker after they lock it, cuz for me, the lock was still open-able even then key was out, you really have to push hard to make sure the lock is secure.

Shower room, this is like the most dimly lit shower room I've been to, I went there at around 2pm so maybe they just haven't turn on most of the lights? Anyway its unlike other nicer saunas, its a really dodgy looking shower, not much lights, and tooth brushes everywhere, so I took a quick shower and got out of there, and guys don't even think about going in to that pool, I don't think they've changed the water ever since they filled it when this place is new.

After shower, got escorted to a small room with a tv, offered me drinks and so I sat down and turned on the TV, and the first channel is p0rn! Haha. Which I found quite funny, anyway switched channel cuz I didn't wanna get myself too excited before the massage, the girl came in and asked if I wanna see the girls now, I said yes please, so she brought in 5 girls for me to look at, and I asked the girl if there were more, but she said all the other ones are working (BS), so I picked the best looking one, not much boobs but good face #29 or #26 can't remember now.

So off we go into the typical sauna room, but no high beds, just a normal bed which is better I think, I took off my shirt and the girl started hugging me, and sort of laugh at me for being in such a hurry to take off my clothes since she hasn't got her gears with her, but anyway she started playing with my di-di while we kissed and all of a sudden she dropped down and started a BBBJ (wow! )(I wanted to stop her cuz I wanted protection), she did it for around a min or 2 and told me to wait for her while she went to get her gears.

She came back after several mins, we kissed some more, and then we got on the bed she took off her clothes and then continue more BBBJ (yehh! ), I then told her to switch around to a 69, now I don't usually DATY on a girl that I don't know, but her privtes looked really clean, so I tried, there was no smell or anything, so I continue, anyway she was really really excited, cuz I can see her butt-hole contracting, as we continue, she suddenly spread my legs and DATO (wow wow! ), I don't know how long we were in the position, but anyway it was gooood.

After that we sort of rested a bit and I massaged her clit, she said she wanted to fk, how can I refuse? So in I go, done the deed, cuddled a while and chatted cuz I can speak some mandarin, left the place with another quick shower and minus 650 rmb.

Before I left I asked for a vip card, but the guy said they've ran out, so gave me a business card and promised that he'll give me a vip card next time, I think I will go back for a next time.

Girl scores:
Look: 8
Body: 6 (too skinny with not much boobs but they were quite soft)
Service: 9 (the best I had yet in Shanghai)
Revisit: YEA (very GFE)

Ps:
here's their business card, but don't bother if you are a mainland chinese unless you can prove that you don't live in China (weird)

Blackjai
10-24-07, 10:15
Sorry my last upload didn't go thru, here it is again.

PSsiness card is with the report, will be easier for everyone to find.

Herr Pollon
10-24-07, 13:20
I felt assured, and paid up the RMB400 before bringing her back, same as the first time. BAD MISTAKE.
... According to HER, LT means doing once before sleeping, and doing once after waking up. So since I've achieved the 2 times already, she should be leaving. I didn't argue, because even if I forced her to stay, the night wouldn't be pleasant.

Is she using YOUR computer in those picts?? Iīd strongly advice against letting them us your computer, nor the USB/SD ports nor surf the net.

WinteRain
10-24-07, 13:54
Is she using YOUR computer in those picts?? Iīd strongly advice against letting them us your computer, nor the USB/SD ports nor surf the net.I allowed her to use it for a few minutes. She just went on QQ, visited some blog and then finished. What's the risk about?

Sniffer
10-24-07, 23:00
I picked the nicest looking girl of the strip, and settled for the same price I paid the last time, RMB400 for overnight takeaway. Which I think is really cheap, but I haven't been to other BBSes, can anyone shed any light on this price? It's basically the only reason why I went there anyway.

After the first bad experience (the girl only did FS, no BJ at all), I made it a point to make clear what the girl could offer infront of the mamasan. So this time, she assured that the girl could do everything. I felt assured, and paid up the RMB400 before bringing her back, same as the first time. BAD MISTAKE.

... But no, she was leaving. I told her that by "Bao Ye" (overnight booking), it meant she should stay till at least 9 AM! Then she gave the most farked up excuse ever. According to HER, LT means doing once before sleeping, and doing once after waking up. So since I've achieved the 2 times already, she should be leaving. I didn't argue, because even if I forced her to stay, the night wouldn't be pleasant. But I realized both bad experiences were probably because I paid the full amount upfront before bringing them back. Next time I should probably just pay half, and pay the remaining half before the girl goes back.

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From my experience...

RMB 400 for "overnight" is about right. Most BBS in Shanghai will charge no less than that.

The girl is not totally incorrect. A lot of the BBS' in Shanghai do interpret "overnight" or "bao ye" as doing 2 shots ONLY! So if you have done it twice with the girl, she would leave. There are a few that I've encountered that would actually allow the girl to stay till the morning. But you do need to ask before you leave the shop.

No matter whether you are doing ST or overnight, my experience is that the shop will always ask you to pay upfront as long as you are doing a take-out. My way of handling this is to tell them that I will pay for one shot. If I like the girl and her service, I will ask her to stay overnight, and then I will pay her the balance. I am not using that as an excuse or trick, because that's exactly how I feel. The experience with girls at BBS is sometime a hit or miss. So if I don't like what the girl has provided, why would I spend the extra money to keep her for the night?

Having said that, you can't assume the girls would really try hard to serve you well in order to stay for the night. Most of these girls really don't care! If you don't ask them to stay, they simply go back to the shop. Chances are they can get more business for the rest of the night than to stay with you! You might not believe this but some BBS girls can do up to 5-6 men or more a night. So the offer to stay may not be that attractive to them.

Ace Gallant
10-25-07, 01:37
From my experience...

RMB 400 for "overnight" is about right. Most BBS in Shanghai will charge no less than that.

The girl is not totally incorrect. A lot of the BBS' in Shanghai do interpret "overnight" or "bao ye" as doing 2 shots ONLY! So if you have done it twice with the girl, she would leave. There are a few that I've encountered that would actually allow the girl to stay till the morning. But you do need to ask before you leave the shop.

No matter whether you are doing ST or overnight, my experience is that the shop will always ask you to pay upfront as long as you are doing a take-out. My way of handling this is to tell them that I will pay for one shot. If I like the girl and her service, I will ask her to stay overnight, and then I will pay her the balance. I am not using that as an excuse or trick, because that's exactly how I feel. The experience with girls at BBS is sometime a hit or miss. So if I don't like what the girl has provided, why would I spend the extra money to keep her for the night?My experience for overnight; is they always stay till at least 10am the next day. There are even some girls who wants to sleep through till afternoon and go back to work directy after that. A couple of time I had problems trying to get the girl up the next morning to leave because I need to go out for meeting or appointments. In general I never had problem doing the girls more than 2 times for a overnighter.

I remembered there was one girl told me up front before my start on her the second time that overnight means two shots, so I told her that in that case I will do her for 4 hours before cumming. She smiled and didn't believe me. I started and 45mins later she surrendered and said, "Please don't do me for 4 hours! I will stay till morning please please...!" :) I unloaded 10 mins later and she stayed till 10am the next day. The best part was; when I went back to the same BBS the next time and wanted to take her again, she refused and said she couldn't handle me.

Sniffer's ideal of trying out the girl first is correct. You take her out for ST and if she is good asked her to stay for overnight. That way you can be assure that the girl who you will be with is giving you good service. You wouldn't want to keep a girl that has bad service do you? However, a lot of BBS Girls in Shanghai is only willing to do overnight takeouts is willing to do it after 12am. especially on a Friday and Saturnday night. This is because their chance for catching a few more ST before 12am are higher.

Enjoy!

AG

WinteRain
10-25-07, 05:17
From my experience,

I will pay her the balance. I am not using that as an excuse or trick, because that's exactly how I feel. The experience with girls at BBS is sometime a hit or miss. So if I don't like what the girl has provided, why would I spend the extra money to keep her for the night?Ah ok, so the price is average. I should check out other joints then.

And thanks for the tip! Initially I had thought of doing ST there, and then deciding if I should take back. But it seems like your way is good too!

Thanks again!

Mrtan
10-25-07, 06:00
Are there any good recommendations for some good action around the Renaissance Pudong Hotel? I'll be with coworkers so I can't host but hoping to check out some saunas or maybe barber shops?

Guybert56
10-25-07, 10:18
Are there any good recommendations for some good action around the Renaissance Pudong Hotel? I'll be with coworkers so I can't host but hoping to check out some saunas or maybe barber shops?None close that I know of. BUT, you are close to the subway and it takes you right to the heart of Sauna land, Pudong! Take the Shanghai Science & Industry subway exit and head toward Zhongshan Park. That would be mostly west. And take the Dongshan exit (next stop) to get to the one located in the Marriott Courtyard building. It has been posted before but is in 819, I think, Dongfang Lu building. Seems like it is on the 4th floor up some escalators. It is a soapland of sorts and is OK.

If you take the second exit off the subway, Dongchang Rd exit) you are very close to what I believe to be the best. It was posted in a post just today with pictures of the business card. You can actually look for the street exit sign after you exit the subway and follow the signs to World Plaza. You will come into the basement of the World Plaza but on B1. Just go down to B2 on the escalators and make a hard left and you will see a glass front business with a couple of white jacketed attendants hovering around outside. It is NOT the prettiest place nor the most modern of facilities, but the girls (#5, 17, 19) have a wonderful atitude and are actually VERY cute in that small chested Chinese way. They work very hard to please! 650/long hour! If you want an almost as good one but better surroundings, head up to the street level and head out of World Plaza to the left for about 2 long blocks on Pudong Lu. You will see a mall with Wagas on your left (GOME across the street). Turn into the alley past Wagas and bear left around that curved building where you will see a Ramen Noodle shop on your left. The elevator lobby accross from that (directly accross from the mall doors) is where you catch the elevator to the 5th floor. Ask for #379 for another GFE. Another Sauna can be found further down Pudong Lu to Zhangyang Lu. Turn left and go about two long blocks until you see a big computer market on your left and the Intercontinental Hotel standing proudly. Directly in front of that place is the Merrylin Hotel where you will find another good sauna. Look in the elevator for the right floor but think it is 3rd. Not sure.

There are BBS's everywhere but some pretty good lookers on the street off of Zhangyang lu one block from Pudong. Turn Right on that small street and there are two barber pole establishments on the first LONG block and three on the long block after yu cross Weifang Xi Lu. No personal experience with them. But they look pretty nice through the glass.

Happy hunting!

Bonzo1
10-25-07, 10:52
Ringer, your note indicates you are missing the subtleties of the China culture. Of course on the one hand you are right - if you push the price down too low, you end up with a provider who is pissed off and will give you poor service, because you have caused her to lose face (she accepted a price too low).

On the other hand, if you pay too much, you have lost face in her eyes, whether you know it or not. You, to her, are a weak foreigner.

If you stand up for your principles, and negotiate for the correct price (they and you know what it is) she will respect you *more* than if you go over.

If you want to treat a provider extra nice, you need to separate the *treat* from the payment. Over payment is a sucker's game, but giving a gift after the fact is different - romantic. Separating them establishes the fact that you are a shrewd negotiator (something any girl in Shanghai will respect) and that you are a generous romantic man.

See the difference? Give it a try next time. Push hard for the right price, then if you really want to, *after* you pay and *after* she accepts and when all that is left is the kiss at the door, offer her a gift, a thank you, which will be rewarded the next time you see her - which may be very soon, because (assuming you tipped her for the right reasons, which is you both enjoyed each other) she'll be texting you. (you did trade numbers, right?)

Good luck,

GM

Actually my experience has been just as Ringer described, i.e. that paying more has gotten me much better service and a cadre of happy girls I can call upon at will who are eager to see me, and they have told me directly that they give me better service than they give others in part because I didn't beat them up on the price.

As a matter of fact, some have said the exact opposite of what many here purport to be true, i.e. that they actually indulge but not at all respect when people haggle with them a lot. Notwithstanding this, there are of course some that also will indeed lose respect for you for overpaying.

My point is that it's not a homogenous thing, and neither is one solution the right one for everyone.

Also, while there are absolutely girls out there that you can pay and they'll respect you (in some capacity), I think it's an ironic notion ... really, how much respect could you really expect or even want from a girl you are paying for sex?

Overall I think this whole 'right price to pay' issue depends mostly on your personality. I place a high premium on the mood and lack of conflict with the girl, while some others place more of a premium on being in control and perceiving themselves as being respected. I don't see how either is better or worse, and I certainly do not think there is a moral (or otherwise) high ground on paying less.

As a side comment, though I think in theory (and probably in practice for many) tipping after is a good idea, it actually has really backfired on me personally a couple of times. Again, I think it's just a case of different strokes for different folks.

Mrtan
10-26-07, 03:53
Wow. Thanks Guybert! That's very descriptive and definitely helpful!

Do I have to worry about getting ripped off at the BBS places? Or are they are pretty honest in hopes for repeat business?

Thanks!

I can't wait!