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01-01-08, 02:00
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Dan Hawaii
01-01-08, 02:01
Dan, I will be in town during that time, will hook-up with ya!
Sounds like a date. Looking forward to hitting the BBS with the pros again. We can skip the catacombs, kind of not brave enough to be called a senior member yet:). Hope LE goes on vacation by then.

SE Asia Joe
01-01-08, 02:02
Bill and I asked one of the gals why there's so much LE activity around the night market these days - and the reply is that recently, 2 gals Overdosed and died on the street. Thus it stands to reason that they're keeping a close tab on Drug activities and ID card checks etc - not a crackdown on the ho'ing activities. We drove down there last night - and whilst they're not surrounding the cars any more, the Mommies certainly still hurry the gals out of the closed doors to show to us. Not a big selection - but OK I guess, seeing as there's such a large contingent of Hong Kong and Taiwanese mongers in Cp these days.

SE Asia Joe

OldAsiaHand
01-01-08, 02:03
Sounds like a date. Looking forward to hitting the BBS with the pros again. We can skip the catacombs, kind of not brave enough to be called a senior member yet:). Hope LE goes on vacation by then.

DW,

It's kind of like being in a fraternity at college. The catacombs are an initiation thing. We will have to get you over there after one of your KTV drinking binges when you are braver. Will you bring a date with you for a threesome?

OAH

Santa
01-01-08, 02:05
there's something fishy when the condom cost more than the girl. .

oah.

drag dan down a dark, narrow, dirty, rat infested alley and into a stinking, cockroach infested, filthy hut. don't let him out until he smells like old fish. he will have finally earned his wings.

these girls do dozens of guys a day, most without condoms. hey, condoms are too expensive! they change the cum stained sheets maybe once a month. there is no bathroom, they just shit and [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) in a hole in the floor that washes out into a gutter, when they have running water that is. pimps guard the alleys.

if you want cheap sex try dongguan. :d

Dan Hawaii
01-01-08, 02:06
oah.

drag dan down a dark, narrow, dirty, rat infested alley and into a stinking, cockroach infested, filthy hut. don't let him out until he smells like old fish. he will have finally earned his wings.

these girls do dozens of guys a day, most without condoms. hey, condoms are too expensive! they change the cum stained sheets maybe once a month. there is no bathroom, they just shit and [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) in a hole in the floor that washes out into a gutter, when they have running water that is. pimps guard the alleys.

if you want cheap sex try dongguan. :dsanta,

oah already dragged me there. he seems to be well loved there. many of the girls jump him on site and all the pimps/bodyguards wink and smile at him. we went with 8 other guys and none of them were game. they actually couldn't get out of there fast enough. oah, a german man, and i was the last ones lurking around. the german was game, i forgot his name, but one of the girls did not want to do him. "things that make you go, hmmmm?" actually serveral of the girls there were scared of him. wierd... but they love oah, he's a stud muffin.

hey oah, you not spoiling the market over there, huh?

Rontbo
01-01-08, 12:53
Just finished up my first trip to CP after having compiled all of the useful info you guys have been posting here for a while and put it to good use...

It was a blast! Got to experience a few of the KTV's, discos, saunas and even had a little taste of the BBS's. My next trip I hope to explore the BBS scene more thoroughly like some of you pros here. A bunch of the neighborhood people were laughing at me and my friends as we walked down dead end alleys in the catacombs and turned back around. It was an awkward, but fun learning experience!

Just wanted to say THANKS to all of you for all of your insight and help along the way.

Still spinning from the after effects.

Rontbo

Erik
01-01-08, 13:34
Happy New year to every mongers !
Anyone has the latest info for low budget well situated (near BBS) hotel in Changping these days ? Around 150 Y, max 200 ?
Thanks

Old Mean Dog
01-01-08, 14:29
Happy New year to every mongers !
Anyone has the latest info for low budget well situated (near BBS) hotel in Changping these days ? Around 150 Y, max 200 ?
Thanks

Yeah, stay at the Yalan Hotel, you can wave at the mommies from your window. Can't get any closer than that.

If you prefer in town, try the Hua Yu (sp?) Hotel, kind of behind the Lucky Hotel and just 2 mins walk to the shops there.

-CPE

OldAsiaHand
01-03-08, 03:31
Santa,
Wierd... But they love OAH, he's a stud muffin.

Hey OAH, you not spoiling the market over there, huh?

DW,

I have never paid more than 30 RMB which is the standard rate. Even I often get turned away at first, but I can usually sweet talk a girl into it if I really want to do her. Most times, I just have alot of fun roaming around chatting and joking with all the girls.

OAH

SE Asia Joe
01-03-08, 07:33
DW,

I have never paid more than 30 RMB which is the standard rate. Even I often get turned away at first, but I can usually sweet talk a girl into it if I really want to do her. Most times, I just have alot of fun roaming around chatting and joking with all the girls.

OAH
Hey OAH:
Indeed, when you took me around the catacombs, it was all fun and messing about - even though it was in the evening. The second time I was with a few of my ABC/Asian friends (no Laowais) and let me tell you, the atmosphere was totally different; The gals were not messing with us and were actually all business - i.e. coming on and then being quite "forceful" in offering/insisting we take their services. the pimps glaring at us and the gals, a couple times even refusing to let one of us free from her clutches. All quite intimidating - even though it was broad daylight - to the point that I felt we needed to get out of there quite rapidly.
Does the difference have anything to do with them being a bit bemused by Laowais - but not about to tolerate messing about by locals/Chinese? I wonder.
I also heard from one of the K-OK gals that the scheme in the catacombs is to get the client to drop trou and start at it, wait a few minutes (very few) and start banging on the doors to enquire if the client wants to extend time etc. According to my K-OK gal, you should expect to drop close to RMB 100 for a visit there - and that the RMB 30 price is just a come-on trick
SE Asia Joe

OldAsiaHand
01-03-08, 13:56
SE Asia Joe:

I think there are a couple of differences. First of all, our group were not that keen for action. It was obvious that we were mostly just lookee-loos. I often bring groups through there for a guided tour. Many of the girls are not keen to do laowais anyway. I also know the "head man on the ground" so to speak. He gave me a personal tour of the area one afternoon. I am not certain if this helps me to get away with my bullshit, but I have never had any trouble there since I met him. In any case, I hope it keeps me safe in there.

Your group on the other hand were all good candidates for business. All you have to do is show a little interest and they will jump at it. I've had similar experience when I am with a smaller group of 2-3 and I am the only laowai.

These girls do 10-12 customers on a good day. They know who is a possible customer and what they have to do to entice every type.

The price is 30 RMB for 20 minutes. They always give you that. If you go over, there will be a knock at the door. You have to be fast.

Just my POV.

OAH



Hey OAH:
Indeed, when you took me around the catacombs, it was all fun and messing about - even though it was in the evening. The second time I was with a few of my ABC/Asian friends (no Laowais) and let me tell you, the atmosphere was totally different; The gals were not messing with us and were actually all business - i.e. coming on and then being quite "forceful" in offering/insisting we take their services. the pimps glaring at us and the gals, a couple times even refusing to let one of us free from her clutches. All quite intimidating - even though it was broad daylight - to the point that I felt we needed to get out of there quite rapidly.
Does the difference have anything to do with them being a bit bemused by Laowais - but not about to tolerate messing about by locals/Chinese? I wonder.
I also heard from one of the K-OK gals that the scheme in the catacombs is to get the client to drop trou and start at it, wait a few minutes (very few) and start banging on the doors to enquire if the client wants to extend time etc. According to my K-OK gal, you should expect to drop close to RMB 100 for a visit there - and that the RMB 30 price is just a come-on trick
SE Asia Joe

Bill Lee
01-03-08, 14:00
At 8:15 p.m., Saw a mommy getting locked up by two young LE in the park square between Hui Mei and Virgin Hotel.

One had grabbed the mommy's jacket and the other started showing his ID to her. Then about ten minutes later, they put her into a patrol car.

The LE were fairly young guys. Skinny and tall, boyish looks. One wearing a Adidas windbreaker.

Then I heard that there was a raid down at the Hui Mei alley, just near the crossroad, around the corner from the Lucky. Ten girls were seen locked up and taken away in a van. There were also older guys and gals getting picked up. Perhaps it was a raid for people without IDs.

Anybody have more details?

Bill

Playboy2000
01-03-08, 15:08
Looks like a number of us will be converging on CP in two weeks:

Racetrack: Jan 13-17
Dan Hawaii: arrives late Jan 15
Loso: arrives Jan 15
Manfest: arrives Jan 14 ?

I hope to meet up with all of you, as well as regulars CPexpat, OAH, and any others. I am into BBS, sauna, and KTV (triple play).

Is anyone else going to be around?

Racetrack

Superforce99
01-03-08, 15:14
Anyone who wants to share the cost of a private car from CP to Zhuhai on Monday morning before noon-ish (or perhaps late Sunday night), let me know.

The price will be 350 and it will depend on how many people will split the costs, so budget between 175 - 120RMB to hitch a ride. Will take a shade less than two hours to reach downtown Zhuhai compared to a shade over three hours if you go by bus.


J

Old Mean Dog
01-03-08, 16:48
At 8:15 p.m., Saw a mommy getting locked up by two young LE in the park square between Hui Mei and Virgin Hotel.

One had grabbed the mommy's jacket and the other started showing his ID to her. Then about ten minutes later, they put her into a patrol car.

The LE were fairly young guys. Skinny and tall, boyish looks. One wearing a Adidas windbreaker.

Then I heard that there was a raid down at the Hui Mei alley, just near the crossroad, around the corner from the Lucky. Ten girls were seen locked up and taken away in a van. There were also older guys and gals getting picked up. Perhaps it was a raid for people without IDs.

Anybody have more details?

Bill

Took the train from CP to Hong Kong, 2 days ago, very easy and fast. Cost was 145 rmb, but I think it is well worth the price considering I blew through customs on both ends in less than 5 minutes. Going to SZ is a pain in the ass processing customs.

Bill,

Did I ever tell you that about 3 weeks ago behind the Lucky Hotel, the police were video taping everyone walking down the BBS alley as well as the street food alley at around 9 or 10 pm? Very odd shit....

-CPE

Dan Hawaii
01-03-08, 20:37
Looks like a number of us will be converging on CP in two weeks:

Racetrack: Jan 13-17
Dan Hawaii: arrives late Jan 15
Loso: arrives Jan 15
Manfest: arrives Jan 14 ?

I hope to meet up with all of you, as well as regulars CPexpat, OAH, and any others. I am into BBS, sauna, and KTV (triple play).

Is anyone else going to be around?

Racetrack
I'm actually arriving later, Jan 17.

Santa
01-03-08, 21:50
At 8:15 p.m., Saw a mommy getting locked up by two young LE in the park square between Hui Mei and Virgin Hotel.



Then I heard that there was a raid down at the Hui Mei alley, just near the crossroad, around the corner from the Lucky. Ten girls were seen locked up and taken away in a van. There were also older guys and gals getting picked up. Perhaps it was a raid for people without IDs.

Anybody have more details?

Bill

I saw about 20 to 25 being escorted to the vans, mostly young ladies. It was a sad sight because some of the girls were crying. I was told by a HK guy that the sting was to catch people without residency permits. He said they would only get a 100rmb fine. But who knows?

Pointpanic
01-03-08, 22:57
Just observed that Dongguan now has the most reports for the China sections on ISG. Shanghai was formerly number 1. Guess the times are changing.

Pointpanic
01-03-08, 22:59
I saw about 20 to 25 being escorted to the vans, mostly young ladies. It was a sad sight because some of the girls were crying. I was told by a HK guy that the sting was to catch people without residency permits. He said they would only get a 100rmb fine. But who knows?


Bill did you take names and numbers? Sounds like a lot of girls will be looking for 100rmb today.

Bill Lee
01-04-08, 02:14
Sorry. I wasn't a witness to the raid behind the Lucky. But three senior members were there and can verify this report.

Another senior member was with me at the park square arrest.

Bill



Bill did you take names and numbers? Sounds like a lot of girls will be looking for 100rmb today.

SE Asia Joe
01-04-08, 04:17
Just observed that Dongguan now has the most reports for the China sections on ISG. Shanghai was formerly number 1. Guess the times are changing.
NOT a good thing. Too many BSD and BS people coming over?
I must 'fess up that I'm one of the "recent arrivals" but hey - you can class me as "Dem Hong Kongers"
SE Asia Joe

SE Asia Joe
01-04-08, 04:20
Took the train from CP to Hong Kong, 2 days ago, very easy and fast. Cost was 145 rmb, but I think it is well worth the price considering I blew through customs on both ends in less than 5 minutes. Going to SZ is a pain in the ass processing customs.

-CPE
A li'l tip - pay the 145 in HK$ intead of RMB - and save you a bit of money as the HK$ is now cheaper than the RMB. And YES, they'll definitely accept the same amount in HK$ as that IS what the price is.
SE Asia Joe

Playboy2000
01-04-08, 14:47
I will in CP Jan 14-17 (maybe 13-17). I enjoy BBS and sauna. But I am also hoping to go to a KTV with a few other guys one night. Unfortunately, Dan Hawaii is arriving just when I leave. If anyone is interested in going to a KTV together on any of those nights, please send me a PM (or post a message to this board).

In August I went to Jia Yi one night and had a great time. I enjoy the drinking, dice games, and desert.

Santa
01-04-08, 15:34
I didn't see them this time, but I heard the cops were at Yalan again this evening, after I had left.

The selection was very poor and the one I took gave bad service.

Old Mean Dog
01-04-08, 16:35
I will in CP Jan 14-17 (maybe 13-17). I enjoy BBS and sauna. But I am also hoping to go to a KTV with a few other guys one night. Unfortunately, Dan Hawaii is arriving just when I leave. If anyone is interested in going to a KTV together on any of those nights, please send me a PM (or post a message to this board).

In August I went to Jia Yi one night and had a great time. I enjoy the drinking, dice games, and desert.

Though I don't really like KTV, seems I am always "required" to go to them when my business partner or his friends come over, which has become almost a monthly thing now.

RT,

I will probably go with ya if I am free. Nothing like watching a fresh faced sex tourist in front of a KTV lineup, it's kinda like watching a kid in a candy store go ape shit.

-CPE

Bill Lee
01-04-08, 17:40
At about 8:00 p.m., I walked out of the 5th floor shop to discover the corner to be occupied by 15 young Chinese guys. Didn't look like the typical Hong Kong guys. The odd thing was that I didn't see one mommy in sight. I walked over to the Bayon tree shop and no mommy was in sight and the door was closed and locked.

I return to the Yalan area to learned that one of the mommies had been picked up by the LE. The same group of 15 guys I saw earlier.

Well it's off I go. But a quick stop on the Yalan KTV waiting room revealed only 5 girls there.

Bill

Weelock
01-05-08, 05:43
At about 8:00 p.m., I walked out of the 5th floor shop to discover the corner to be occupied by 15 young Chinese guys. Didn\\\\\\\'t look like the typical Hong Kong guys. The odd thing was that I didn\\\\\\\'t see one mommy in sight. I walked over to the Bayon tree shop and no mommy was in sight and the door was closed and locked.

I return to the Yalan area to learned that one of the mommies had been picked up by the LE. The same group of 15 guys I saw earlier.

Well it\\\\\\\'s off I go. But a quick stop on the Yalan KTV waiting room revealed only 5 girls there.

Bill

To add so comments, it\\\\\\\'s weid. I picked up a girl from this mommy maybe just before happened. After picking my girl, the mommy, me and the girl all waited at the Bayon Tree circle for another ISG guy to get his girl. The mommy even warned me about LE.

Chinese New Year is around the corner. I think it is that time of the year for LE.

Weelock
01-05-08, 06:01
I saw about 20 to 25 being escorted to the vans, mostly young ladies. It was a sad sight because some of the girls were crying. I was told by a HK guy that the sting was to catch people without residency permits. He said they would only get a 100rmb fine. But who knows?

It was some kind of sting just behind Lucky Hotel. There were about 20 people in uniforms stopping anybody but mostly females. It was like a check point. A few of the people in uniforms were females. Three of us were there watching for about 20 mins. The sting was still going on when we finally left.

Freepeaks
01-05-08, 07:40
Not sure this should be put here but anything going on there? I have a chance to visit southern China for a weekend before needing to be in in that area. Any suggestions for a 3 day tour?

Freepeaks
01-05-08, 07:43
Anyone for a cp hunt 19-20 jan?

I know nothing of this area (other than what I read) and open to hotels
and agenda. Interested in KTV party?

Send me a PM.

RasSpewtin
01-07-08, 04:07
I just wanted to give you guys the heads up on one of the Mommies in CP that is giving her girls false promises of tips from customers.

I was down in CP last weekend with a couple of buddies. We went to Babyís shop at around 4:30 on Saturday afternoon, and witnessed a truly impressive array of 45 girls, all available for fun. Other shops were sparser in terms of their offerings, possibly owing to a crack-down the day before as eluded by Santa in a previous report.

I picked a girl from Hunan with an inviting smile. Now I NEVER pick girls from Hunan due to too many shitty experiences with them, but this time I went against the grain. I wish in hindsight that I had instead picked one of the other 2 prospects that I had been considering, as they come from my two current favorite regions in China: Sichuan and Yunnan.

The Hunan gal was good at the deed and DFK, but she absolutely refused to give head. This is truly an oddity in CP, where giving head comes as easily to most girls as slurping their rice from a bowl.

After all was said and done, I got into the safe to get 100 RMB for her (having already given 100 to Baby). She freaked out, and held up two fingers. Thinking that she wanted a 20 RMB tip for taxi, I told her that her shop was mere steps away from my room at the Swan Lake; no taxi required. Then she amazed me by saying that Baby had told her that I was going to give her a 200 tip instead of the usual 100.

So I imagine what Baby was doing was pumping up the girlís motivation to give good service, without any such promise from me. Maybe the girls expect all the customers to become extra generous before Chinese New Year, but heyÖ.Iím not Chinese. So I told the girl to get Baby on the phone and I would talk to her. She then turned quieter, and finally took my invitation to close the door behind her. One of the buddies with me confirmed that a similar situation had happened to him that same day, and the mommy involved was once again Baby.

So heads up, and you may want to make a point of adjusting expectations and confirming the usual price before you close the deal.

Raz

Old Mean Dog
01-07-08, 04:21
I just wanted to give you guys the heads up on one of the Mommies in CP that is giving her girls false promises of tips from customers.

I was down in CP last weekend with a couple of buddies. We went to Babyís shop at around 4:30 on Saturday afternoon, and witnessed a truly impressive array of 45 girls, all available for fun. Other shops were sparser in terms of their offerings, possibly owing to a crack-down the day before as eluded by Santa in a previous report.

I picked a girl from Hunan with an inviting smile. Now I NEVER pick girls from Hunan due to too many shitty experiences with them, but this time I went against the grain. I wish in hindsight that I had instead picked one of the other 2 prospects that I had been considering, as they come from my two current favorite regions in China: Sichuan and Yunnan.

The Hunan gal was good at the deed and DFK, but she absolutely refused to give head. This is truly an oddity in CP, where giving head comes as easily to most girls as slurping their rice from a bowl.

After all was said and done, I got into the safe to get 100 RMB for her (having already given 100 to Baby). She freaked out, and held up two fingers. Thinking that she wanted a 20 RMB tip for taxi, I told her that her shop was mere steps away from my room at the Swan Lake; no taxi required. Then she amazed me by saying that Baby had told her that I was going to give her a 200 tip instead of the usual 100.

So I imagine what Baby was doing was pumping up the girlís motivation to give good service, without any such promise from me. Maybe the girls expect all the customers to become extra generous before Chinese New Year, but heyÖ.Iím not Chinese. So I told the girl to get Baby on the phone and I would talk to her. She then turned quieter, and finally took my invitation to close the door behind her. One of the buddies with me confirmed that a similar situation had happened to him that same day, and the mommy involved was once again Baby.

So heads up, and you may want to make a point of adjusting expectations and confirming the usual price before you close the deal.

Raz

That seems very unusual! I consider Baby to be one of the coolest and straight up mommys in CP. She has been doing the game with us laowai long enough that it surprises me that she would try to get over on us now.

-CPE

RasSpewtin
01-07-08, 05:03
Yo, CPE. There are 2 distinct possibilities.

1. Baby is indeed making false promises to the girls about generous New Year's tips from customers,

OR

2. Both girls in my post tried the same ploy at the same time.

In either case, my advice to confirm the price first with the girl stands.

Raz


That seems very unusual! I consider Baby to be one of the coolest and straight up mommys in CP. She has been doing the game with us laowai long enough that it surprises me that she would try to get over on us now.

-CPE

SE Asia Joe
01-07-08, 05:55
Yo, CPE. There are 2 distinct possibilities.

1. Baby is indeed making false promises to the girls about generous New Year's tips from customers,

OR

2. Both girls in my post tried the same ploy at the exact same time.

In either case, my advice to confirm the price first with the girl stands.

RAZ
Another possibility - Not sure if you know this or not - but at the place we generally refer to as being "Baby's, there are actually 6 or so individual mommies and not only Baby.
The whole place is known to us as Baby's probably becoz Baby's name card seems to be the only 1 there that has her English name. Baby's "crew" of gals occupies the corner closest to the entrance.
Which part of the room did you chose your gal from - for unless its from Baby's corner - that girl is NOT Baby's gal but another momma's
SE Asia Joe

RasSpewtin
01-07-08, 06:09
SE Asia Joe:

It was definitely Baby who talked to the girl just before I left with her.

But just to put a reality spin on this one, I am not totally diss-ing Baby, nor even hinting at a boycott. Just a heads up, that's all.

Raz


Another possibility - Not sure if you know this or not - but at the place we generally refer to as being "Baby's, there are actually 6 or so individual mommies and not only Baby.
The whole place is known to us as Baby's probably becoz Baby's name card seems to be the only 1 there that has her English name. Baby's "crew" of gals occupies the corner closest to the entrance.
Which part of the room did you chose your gal from - for unless its from Baby's corner - that girl is NOT Baby's gal but another momma's
SE Asia Joe

Jack Fordham
01-07-08, 07:59
Hello,

I lived in Dongguan for a year (unfortunately before I knew this forum existed). I lived in a pretty poor part of the city called Dalingshan. All over the city there were small shops with girls in them all wearing white uniforms. Short white skirt and top. I would go into these and get a handjob for 35RMB. Are these what you are referring to as BBS's or are the BBS's different from this. In the shops I would go to these girls would just give a handjob and a half ass massage. Got some gret handjobs but nothing more but never tried for anything more. Thought it was a great deal at 35RMB. Am I missing something? Are these "full service" places and I was just naive to that? Any info is appreciated.

Thanks,

Jack Fordham (not my real name.

Superforce99
01-07-08, 10:23
Had a great time in CP and thanks to AG, Crazier, Raz, Bill, Wadman, SE Joe, and a bunch of other folks who directly and indirectly made possible a lot of good times rollin'...

...and even though SOMEBODY whose name rhymes with *Banta* acted like a bastard rather than a jolly old man, it's OK...money fixes all female situations in CP, ha ha...I'm ready to introduce another one to you next weekend ;)


J


PS. General tip: for those of you who want to use your HSBC bank card to pull money out, China Merchants Bank gave me no problems.

I swear that all Mainland bank ATMs never accepted my HSBC cards, except Bank of Communications (but it's 20% owned by HSBC, so that makes sense). So, that tip may help some of you out there. Someone told me there is an HSBC ATM at the train station but I didn't see it.

SE Asia Joe
01-07-08, 10:41
Had a great time in ...money fixes all female situations in CP, ha ha...I'm ready to introduce another one to you next weekend ;)


Johnny the Con Man - yup - that's what you are!
You dare to say that money fixes all female situations in CP? You who had a double banger FOR FREE?!! Hell I have a hard enough time getting a single freebie and you go ahead and show us all with a double header? DISGUSTING! Leave some for us oldies!
SE Asia

Superforce99
01-07-08, 11:32
Johnny the Con Man - yup - that's what you are!
You dare to say that money fixes all female situations in CP? You who had a double banger FOR FREE?!! Hell I have a hard enough time getting a single freebie and you go ahead and show us all with a double header? DISGUSTING! Leave some for us oldies!
SE Asia


Funny you should mention that duo...ask Banta, errr, I mean Santa about it...


J

Santa
01-07-08, 12:40
...and even though SOMEBODY whose name rhymes with *Banta* acted like a bastard rather than a jolly old man, it's OK...money fixes all female situations .

She said she wanted me to be her regular boyfriend and would only fuck me if I agreed. I told her "ting bu dong", and fucked her anyway. What else could I do? A standing cock has no conscience! In the morning I kept telling her the same bullshit, "ting bu dong".

Anyway, I had to pay my "freebie" longtime fee for an average fuck and no blow, and then ask Johnny to tell her "Santa is no good for you because his chinese sucks".

That will teach me a lesson.

At least it cost me a lot less than a real "freebie" girlfriend would cost. You guys know the routine; apt, ring, wedding cake, visa, house, babies, etc. And then when she becomes a fat and ugly *****, and you just cannot fuck her anymore, it's time for the lawyers. Total damage $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

You guys can have the "freebies". Santa wants to find 'em, ST fuck 'em and forget. Paying for pussy is the best way to go. More variety, better service, cheaper, and less hassles.

OldAsiaHand
01-07-08, 13:28
Raz,

IMHO, both girls just tried to "hit a homerun" with a BSD laowai as Johnnkon666 always describes it. They just thought you did not know better and needed rent money for their "rat infested bungalow".

Just my POV.

OAH



Yo, CPE. There are 2 distinct possibilities.

1. Baby is indeed making false promises to the girls about generous New Year's tips from customers,

OR

2. Both girls in my post tried the same ploy at the same time.

In either case, my advice to confirm the price first with the girl stands.

Raz

Wapec
01-07-08, 13:58
Banta,

You missed the worst but most likely case in your scenario. She become an old withered raisined hag and won't let you fuck the young nubile ones and uses it against you with the lawyers when you naturally do.

My advice get them young but legal and fuck 'them willingly across the kitchen table while telling them that they never had it so good.

Or you hit it lucky and marry a kaifa but self sufficient gal and multiply the opportunities. They do exist. Yep they do.

Wapec

PS: please let me know if you find any 'because I fuckin' can't be bothered investing the time when there are so many easy pickings. Real advice pick up yer nuts and move onto the next in line. Checkout takeaway anyone?

Old Mean Dog
01-07-08, 14:13
General tip: for those of you who want to use your HSBC bank card to pull money out, China Merchants Bank gave me no problems.

I swear that all Mainland bank ATMs never accepted my HSBC cards, except Bank of Communications (but it's 20% owned by HSBC, so that makes sense). So, that tip may help some of you out there. Someone told me there is an HSBC ATM at the train station but I didn't see it.

As I mentioned to ya, I don't ever remember seeing an HSBC here in CP. Funny thing about China Merchants Bank is, that it's one of the few banks my stateside ATM card does not work at. I think there is a Bank of Communications across the intersection from the Lion Hotel, but not positive.

-CPE

Old Mean Dog
01-07-08, 14:16
At least it cost me a lot less than a real "freebie" girlfriend would cost. You guys know the routine; apt, ring, wedding cake, visa, house, babies, etc. And then when she becomes a fat and ugly *****, and you just cannot fuck her anymore, it's time for the lawyers. Total damage $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Find yourself a "House Mouse" or at least at a minimum, don't go after a beauty queen for a freebie, because the only occupation they are qualified for is "Gold Digger".

-CPE

BTW: To have a House Mouse you will need a house and not a hotel room so, why don't you go ahead and buy an apartment here and quit wasting your money.

ManonsanBoy
01-07-08, 21:24
Hello,

I lived in Dongguan for a year (unfortunately before I knew this forum existed).

Thanks,

Jack Fordham (not my real name.


Dear Jack

This is unbelievable. A year and you did not realise..............

Old Mean Dog
01-08-08, 01:00
Hello,

I lived in Dongguan for a year (unfortunately before I knew this forum existed). I lived in a pretty poor part of the city called Dalingshan. All over the city there were small shops with girls in them all wearing white uniforms. Short white skirt and top. I would go into these and get a handjob for 35RMB. Are these what you are referring to as BBS's or are the BBS's different from this. In the shops I would go to these girls would just give a handjob and a half ass massage. Got some gret handjobs but nothing more but never tried for anything more. Thought it was a great deal at 35RMB. Am I missing something? Are these "full service" places and I was just naive to that? Any info is appreciated.

Thanks,

Jack Fordham (not my real name.

Different. What you went to we call "Tug Joints", "Rub-n-Tugs" whatever, BBS's or "Stables" is a room full of girls that you can go into and choose one (or as many as you want) to have FS with. BBS's come in two flavors; Do the deed on site or take back to your hotel. In DG it is take-out and in SZ it is normally dine-in. Cost is normally 150-200 rmb for ST and 450-500 LT.

-CPE

Freepeaks
01-08-08, 04:06
Anyone know where to see playoff NFL games on the next upcoming weekends, is there a sports bar - does chinese TV show them or a very fast internet connection (even decent 200k) to stream video to? Specifically in Changping.

Dar425
01-08-08, 04:58
Joe,

I passed a freebie onto Johnnie Con Man back in Zhuhai. He now calls me Dad, and she calls me "Dirty Uncle". As long as Johnnie does not mind and lets me win at billiards, I'm happy for it.

Dar
ps - I owe you 50+ kuai. I think I'll be in Guangdong in late February or early March. Hopefully, buy you Sum Dim(wit), or easy-out option of 50 kuai.







Johnny the Con Man - yup - that's what you are!
You dare to say that money fixes all female situations in CP? You who had a double banger FOR FREE?!! Hell I have a hard enough time getting a single freebie and you go ahead and show us all with a double header? DISGUSTING! Leave some for us oldies!
SE Asia

SE Asia Joe
01-08-08, 06:00
Joe,

I passed a freebie onto Johnnie Con Man back in Zhuhai. He now calls me Dad, and she calls me "Dirty Uncle". As long as Johnnie does not mind and lets me win at billiards, I'm happy for it.

Dar
ps - I owe you 50+ kuai. I think I'll be in Guangdong in late February or early March. Hopefully, buy you Sum Dim(wit), or easy-out option of 50 kuai.
OK Dar - come clean now - did you pass on the freebie or did Johnny steal her from you?! The sneaky little bum is capable of doing anythin'! And jeez - he's young and energetic enough to pull it off most times!
And how come you owe me? Please tell me when/where/how - it's driving me nuts trying to figure this out! The cheap bastard that I am - I SHOULD NEVER forget these kid of things!
Se Asia

Jack Fordham
01-08-08, 07:41
I see that is what I thought after reading some of the postings here. I really wish I knew about this site when I lived in Dongguan. So in these "tug and rubs" I should not expect anything beyond the half ass massage and a hand job ? NO BJ's or full service ?

Superforce99
01-08-08, 08:55
Joe,

I passed a freebie onto Johnnie Con Man back in Zhuhai....

Hey Dad,

I'm not going to say too much about this, but I couldn't let this pass without comment...

If you ask Ms. "S", there is no way she was "passed" onto me and she'll rip you a new one if she knew that's how you see things happened that night, ha ha...


J

SE Asia Joe
01-08-08, 09:40
Hey Dad,

I'm not going to say too much about this, but I couldn't let this pass without comment...

If you ask Ms. "S", there is no way she was "passed" onto me and she'll rip you a new one if she knew that's how you see things happened that night, ha ha...


J
Oh dar Dar Dar - don't cry now! It's all going to be alright in the morning
Granma Joe

Football Hero
01-08-08, 16:10
Did not realize there were quality Sauna Health Centers in Dalang Town!

To enter the Sauna, either go through the main entrance which is beside the Tianyu Hotel main entrance, or go to TianYu Hotel 3rd floor.

SOP is the mamasan will ask 2 girls to parade at a time. The selection of girls is nothing to rave about but the rooms are very nice.

The service is very close to a Japanese Soapland style.

The girl will spend 45 minutes bathing/playing your entire body before calling the frontdesk to start the clock.

Then it's 90 mins of her playing with you. Full AR, BBBJ.

Damn, this is my new fav Sauna in Southern China!

Girl: PingPing (cant remember number)
Age: 20
Face: 7/10
Service: 10/10
Attitude: 8/10 (ticklish nipples)
Damage:

198 (room) + 400 (girl)

Moody
01-08-08, 21:25
I see that is what I thought after reading some of the postings here. I really wish I knew about this site when I lived in Dongguan. So in these "tug and rubs" I should not expect anything beyond the half ass massage and a hand job ? NO BJ's or full service ?

Some of the places give pretty good massage. In answer to your question though, the HJ places are usually just HJ places. You should realize though, that the HJ places are MUCH cheaper compared to getting FS at a BBS or an inhouse sauna. You're usually talking 35RMB compared to 100-200 at BBS or 300-400 plus room fee for sauna.

Hainanien
01-09-08, 04:53
It's quite possible to make the HJ girls girlfriends if you put a little time & interest in her. She is, after all, the next step down to being a "bad girl".

Pleasure Dude
01-09-08, 06:14
Hi CPExpat,

Can you give me more details on how to take the train form Hong Kong to CP? At which station in Hong Kong should I get on? I am visiting CP for the first time and I hope to join Race Track and other members that I have met before in Shenzhen.

Thanks,
PD


Took the train from CP to Hong Kong, 2 days ago, very easy and fast. Cost was 145 rmb, but I think it is well worth the price considering I blew through customs on both ends in less than 5 minutes. Going to SZ is a pain in the ass processing customs.

Bill,

Did I ever tell you that about 3 weeks ago behind the Lucky Hotel, the police were video taping everyone walking down the BBS alley as well as the street food alley at around 9 or 10 pm? Very odd shit....

-CPE

ABCinLA
01-09-08, 08:20
Hi CPExpat,

Can you give me more details on how to take the train form Hong Kong to CP? At which station in Hong Kong should I get on? I am visiting CP for the first time and I hope to join Race Track and other members that I have met before in Shenzhen.

Thanks,
PD

Get to the heavy railway station at Hung Hom. If you're at the airport ask the information desk they will tell you how to do it slowly in English, If you're at a hotel the front desk will point the way. They may write down directions for a taxi cab driver to follow. Once you're at that particular main station ask around as lots of people speak English. No need to hunt and peck on your own.

Manatsu
01-09-08, 09:50
Reports on trips back in Oct/Nov 07

Before the highway re-construction started
Trip to Cinese in Dongguan
Very nice hotel, you can see it all the way from the highway. Once you enter the hotel, go to the elevators on the left hand side, go up to 4th or 5th floor and one of the black suited mami will take you to a private hotel room.

The room is around 150(memory fading) and the girls go between 400 to 600 depending what you want. I have been to this place for 3 or 4 times now and have found that the price different doesn't mean a lot. just pick whoever you like the most. Their skills are mostly the same.

Once you have selected the girl you will go though the same routine of shower + playing around + bbbj + fs. Please note that the girl clocks in ONLY after shower. If they clock in before shower then you are getting ripped off.

Word of advice is to arrive around 11PM. after getting exhausted on the 90 minute workout, you can literally, stay in the room for the remaining night without extra cost. Its a bargain. Just remenber to ask for fresh sheets.

Damage: 150RMB+400/500/600
Girls are from 7-9. don't believe i have seen any 10s.
Very willing and GFE




Trip to Coconuts something forrest mansion(椰林山庄)
Since the construction started on highway to Dongguan, we were forced to venture someone closer. Somewhere mid way between Guangzhou and Dongguan was this nice hotel. its slightly past Xintang, but belongs to Dongguan.

Its a resort type setup which different section of the area with different rooms. Park your cars at the lot right after coming in from the gate. Walk down the main road PAST the main reception building. 1 minute later you will see a large hotel complex about 5 floors high on your right handside, follow the building to the entrance and walk in. Girls in prom dresses will greet you and take you to your resting room. The rooms seemed a little older than Cinese and had hardwood floors.

Cost is about the same setup 150ish room + the girl of your choice. Once again, i didn't feel any skill differences between the different girls. Same schedule, shower + play. You can stay for the night if its too late at no charge.

Note, don't let the male waiters take your shoes away, they will do a crappy job of polishing it and ask your rudely for tips. It even got my girl pissed off.

Damage 150+300/400/500
Girls 6-9
Very willing and GFE

Pleasure Dude
01-09-08, 11:07
Is the heavy rail at Hung Hom same as the MTR subway location called Hung Hom in Hong Kong?

Thanks,
PD



Get to the heavy railway station at Hung Hom. If you're at the airport ask the information desk they will tell you how to do it slowly in English, If you're at a hotel the front desk will point the way. They may write down directions for a taxi cab driver to follow. Once you're at that particular main station ask around as lots of people speak English. No need to hunt and peck on your own.

Wadman
01-09-08, 14:19
Raz,

The "other guy who had something similar happened" was me. For the record, my girl was from Sandy's/Jojo's shop. Her mama was HongLing, a plain looking mammy about 30 years old.

After the ST I handed her 110 rmb (10 for taxi), and this is what ensued:
Her: it's supposed to be 150
Me: I always pay 100 (after initial 100 to the mommy)
Her: My mommy told me that you would give me 150
Me: I said no such thing, it's always 100
Her: Give my mommy a call, and ask
Me: I am not calling her, you can call her

And she DID actually call her mommy and sounded genuinely surprised when mommy told that her 100 rmb is ok.

2 possibilities:
1) she was just trying for an extra 50 (unlikely since I am ethnic Chinese and been to the BBS shops many times)
2) Her mommy really did tell her something to that effect. Mommy is playing both parties - the girl is more likely to give good service if she thinks she gets an extra 50, and good service means a happy, repeat customer.

I do give the girls a tip for good service (yes, usually 150), but I am starting to wonder now... maybe that's not such a good idea. It just encourages these types of situations, and since I rarely repeat what do I get out of it?

PS: the girl was skinny with big tits, big enough that she could suck on her own nipples. And even better, both of us sucking on 1 nipple ;-)



Yo, CPE. There are 2 distinct possibilities.

1. Baby is indeed making false promises to the girls about generous New Year's tips from customers,

OR

2. Both girls in my post tried the same ploy at the same time.

In either case, my advice to confirm the price first with the girl stands.

Raz

Pointpanic
01-09-08, 15:03
Is the heavy rail at Hung Hom same as the MTR subway location called Hung Hom in Hong Kong?

Thanks,
PD It is the same station. Hit Hung Hom Station on Google. Hung Hom is in Kowloon TST East area. The train goes to Guangzhou and the only stop in Dongguan is at Changping. About a 40 minute train ride. The smaller your suitcase the better. You can get train schedule on computer.

Sukhumvitter
01-09-08, 15:16
It is the same station. Hit Hung Hom Station on Google. Hung Hom is in Kowloon TST East area. The train goes to Guangzhou and the only stop in Dongguan is at Changping. About a 40 minute train ride. The smaller your suitcase the better. You can get train schedule on computer.Actually, the Hung Hom station is on the KCR-East line not one of the MTR lines.

You have to take the MTR to Kowloon Tong or Tsim Tsa Tsui to change to the KCR-East line. Then you can take the KCR-East train to the Hung Hom station and change to the Heavy Rail line that crosses the border and goes to Chang Ping.

Have Fun!

Pleasure Dude
01-10-08, 01:39
Thanks guys for all your help. I will be staying near the TST MTR station in Kowloon so it is probably very close the the heavy rail station. Hope to see some of the senior members in Dongguan.

PD




Actually, the Hung Hom station is on the KCR-East line not one of the MTR lines.

You have to take the MTR to Kowloon Tong or Tsim Tsa Tsui to change to the KCR-East line. Then you can take the KCR-East train to the Hung Hom station and change to the Heavy Rail line that crosses the border and goes to Chang Ping.

Have Fun!

SE Asia Joe
01-10-08, 03:33
Thanks guys for all your help. I will be staying near the TST MTR station in Kowloon so it is probably very close the the heavy rail station. Hope to see some of the senior members in Dongguan.

PD
Actually.... the Hunghom KCRC train station is not that close to any hotels or the MTR station. And there is NO Hunghom MTR station. There is at present a bit of confusion as the KCR has just merged with the MTR and they're renaming all the stations as MTR - but for your purposes - lets differentiate it with me naming the intercity train you want to take to Dongguan as KCR (the old name) and the local commuter lines as MTR. In any case, the Hunghom KCR train station is NOT an easily walkable distance from just about anything and your best bet is still a taxi ride there.
Also, please note that there are 2 separate lines - the local line that you catch "downstairs" to go to Lowu (luohu) and Lok Ma Chau which is where one crosses both Hong Kong and PRC borders. The "Cross border" train station is upstairs with intercity trains going to a. Dongguan (CP) and Guangzhou, b. Beijing and c. Shanghai. Here you clear Hong Kong immigration and clear the PRC one upon arrival (a much more comfortable and relaxing experience).
If you take a taxi, he will drop you off at the upstairs main station where the intercity line originates and as you enter the building, go to the extreme right where you will find the ticketing counter. specify dongguan - which is Chang Ping and the ticket will cost you HK$145 and the journey will be just a bit over an hour. Hope this helps
SE Asia Joe

SE Asia Joe
01-10-08, 03:39
Raz,

The "other guy who had something similar happened" was me. For the record, my girl was from Sandy's/Jojo's shop. Her mama was HongLing, a plain looking mammy about 30 years old.

;-)
Hmmmm... so I guess the "disease" has spread from Baby's shop to also JoJo's shop. All dem BSD's??
On the other hand, just about ALL these gals always ask for more xiaofei no matter how much we give - right?
SE asia Joe

Pleasure Dude
01-10-08, 04:43
I have taken the train many times to Lohou from the East TST station KCR station so I can take that train to Hunghom station and transfer to the line to Dongguan.

Thanks,
PD



Actually.... the Hunghom KCRC train station is not that close to any hotels or the MTR station. And there is NO Hunghom MTR station. There is at present a bit of confusion as the KCR has just merged with the MTR and they're renaming all the stations as MTR - but for your purposes - lets differentiate it with me naming the intercity train you want to take to Dongguan as KCR (the old name) and the local commuter lines as MTR. In any case, the Hunghom KCR train station is NOT an easily walkable distance from just about anything and your best bet is still a taxi ride there.
Also, please note that there are 2 separate lines - the local line that you catch "downstairs" to go to Lowu (luohu) and Lok Ma Chau which is where one crosses both Hong Kong and PRC borders. The "Cross border" train station is upstairs with intercity trains going to a. Dongguan (CP) and Guangzhou, b. Beijing and c. Shanghai. Here you clear Hong Kong immigration and clear the PRC one upon arrival (a much more comfortable and relaxing experience).
If you take a taxi, he will drop you off at the upstairs main station where the intercity line originates and as you enter the building, go to the extreme right where you will find the ticketing counter. specify dongguan - which is Chang Ping and the ticket will cost you HK$145 and the journey will be just a bit over an hour. Hope this helps
SE Asia Joe

Wadman
01-10-08, 07:21
yes, often the girls will ask for extra money/tip. but this girl did more than asking, she demanded. her point was that it was the "agreed on" price.

i believe that in raz's case it was pretty much the same: they demanded.

in my case, it may be that i had tipped some of the girls in that shop an extra 50 rmb for good service, and now they are trying to use that as the standard.

for those who think that paying extra (upfront) gets you better service... just like highway speeds, a maximum quickly becomes a minimum.



hmmmm... so i guess the "disease" has spread from baby's shop to also jojo's shop. all dem bsd's??
on the other hand, just about all these gals always ask for more xiaofei no matter how much we give - right?
se asia joe

SE Asia Joe
01-10-08, 08:35
yes, often the girls will ask for extra money/tip. but this girl did more than asking, she demanded. her point was that it was the "agreed on" price.

i believe that in raz's case it was pretty much the same: they demanded.

in my case, it may be that i had tipped some of the girls in that shop an extra 50 rmb for good service, and now they are trying to use that as the standard.

for those who think that paying extra (upfront) gets you better service... just like highway speeds, a maximum quickly becomes a minimum.
ahhhhh..... now i get it! you and raz are bsd's! that's what it is! you guys always tip big and the gals talk with each other and the mommie and when you walk in - the mommie will tell your chosen one that "you've hit the jackpot - he always pays at least 50 more - so go to it gal!
hah - busted you guys for being a bsd - right?
se asia

Santa
01-10-08, 11:14
After the ST I handed her 110 rmb (10 for taxi), and this is what ensued:
Her: it's supposed to be 150
Me: I always pay 100 (after initial 100 to the mommy)
Her: My mommy told me that you would give me 150
Me: I said no such thing, it's always 100
Her: Give my mommy a call, and ask
Me: I am not calling her, you can call her



Scam #1.

Now my story.

After the ST I also handed her 110rmb.

Her: it's supposed to be 300.
Me: I laugh and say no way, I ALWAYS pay 100 (after paying mommy)
Her: Ok, give me 200. 100 for for me and 100 for mommy.
Me: I already paid the mommy.
Her: Oh, ok. Takes the 100 and leaves.

Later, my friend calls in the same girl. She tells him the other guy only gave me 100 and when I got back to my shop I had to give it to the mommy, because the mommy said she never got paid.

The girl is new and did not see me pay the mommy. The mommy whispered something to the girl before we left the shop.

So, is it a scam and who is scamming whom? :confused:

Scam #2

I give a different girl 110. She feels it, walks into bathroom to see it under a better light, walks out and tells me it's fake. From now on, I will mark all of my bills immediately after I get them from an ATM. The bill looks and feels ok to me, I'll find out later if it is good.

Wadman
01-10-08, 11:47
How are the girls in HK, Joe? Just as cheap as Dongguan? Hehe

I only tip 50 (40 really, as the other 10 is taxi money) if the service was deemed to be really good, which in my case means a good long BJ. Maybe 1 in 10 girls get tipped that way.

In Raz's case, the fact that he is a laowai may very well be a factor. But his girls had the misfortune that Raz speaks good enough Mandarin to tell them to fuck off.



Ahhhhh..... now I get it! You and Raz are BSD's! That's what it is! You guys always tip big and the gals talk with each other and the Mommie and when you walk in - the Mommie will tell your chosen one that "you've hit the jackpot - he ALWAYS pays at least 50 more - so go to it gal!
Hah - busted you guys for being a BSD - right?
Se Asia

Wadman
01-10-08, 12:02
Scam #1.
The girl is new and did not see me pay the mommy. The mommy whispered something to the girl before we left the shop.

So, is it a scam and who is scamming whom? :confused:



Apparently the mommies pull all kinds of dirty tricks and scam each other too. Many of the mommies don't have any friends in CP because the only people they get to know are workings girls, Johns, and other mommies. I can understand why they don't consider their girls and customers as real friends, so I thought maybe they are friends with each other. Apparently not so, after talking to some of them.



Scam #2

I give a different girl 110. She feels it, walks into bathroom to see it under a better light, walks out and tells me it's fake. From now on, I will mark all of my bills immediately after I get them from an ATM. The bill looks and feels ok to me, I'll find out later if it is good.

So did she switch your original 100 rmb for a fake bill while in the bathroom, Santa?

John Smiley
01-10-08, 17:00
Report on latest adventure in Wanjiang area.

SW in footpaths at side of river opposite the main city. Charge is 300RMB
Mostly older 40+ yo well maybe even more based on more blurred vision.

The other is adjacent to the river and area is not konwn but have contact details for papasan with good stable of girls for 300 all night. If not happy with his selection then walk 10 metres into another BBS.

Selection was good but too tired to have any fun well until tomorrow.

Freepeaks
01-11-08, 00:09
Can anyone tell me which hotel is better.

is it better to be in same hotel as KTV?

And which one has better internet service?

SE Asia Joe
01-11-08, 05:18
Apparently the mommies pull all kinds of dirty tricks and scam each other too. Many of the mommies don't have any friends in CP because the only people they get to know are workings girls, Johns, and other mommies. I can understand why they don't consider their girls and customers as real friends, so I thought maybe they are friends with each other. Apparently not so, after talking to some of them.

Questions for those who've been doing the mommies - you know who you are!
- How do you manage getting into their pants?
- What do you do FOR them/pay them afterwards - if any.
- what did/do they expect out of you
- How would you rate your experience withe these mommies vs/ doing it w/the gals
- would you repeat/keep on doing it?
SE Asia Joe

Tile Man4
01-11-08, 06:49
Apparently the mommies pull all kinds of dirty tricks and scam each other too. Many of the mommies don't have any friends in CP because the only people they get to know are workings girls, Johns, and other mommies. I can understand why they don't consider their girls and customers as real friends, so I thought maybe they are friends with each other. Apparently not so, after talking to some of them.



So did she switch your original 100 rmb for a fake bill while in the bathroom, Santa?


I am in the tile , granite and marble biz. Its nothing but a cold piece of stone that I can turn into money. Most of the mommies are as cold as my stone and in turn the xiaojie will show the same loyalty (none).

Again , I do listen to the senior guys on how to handle both of these women. I would cancel ISG if I did not learn anything from this forum. I also have no problem with the off-the-wall bull shit. I find ISG informative , boring at times and entertaining at times. I thank you all for the above.

take care and be safe.

tile man

RasSpewtin
01-11-08, 06:59
Hey, SE Joe:

I think that you are joking, but I need to set the record straight before I get a reputation as a big spender here. I give the girls 100 RMB after the deed, plus 10 RMB taxi cash if taxi is required. I may have tipped the odd exceptional gal 20 RMB max, but that's it. And that would only happen 10% of the time.

Cheers!
Raz


Ahhhhh..... now I get it! You and Raz are BSD's! That's what it is! You guys always tip big and the gals talk with each other and the Mommie and when you walk in - the Mommie will tell your chosen one that "you've hit the jackpot - he ALWAYS pays at least 50 more - so go to it gal!
Hah - busted you guys for being a BSD - right?
Se Asia

Old Mean Dog
01-11-08, 07:11
Questions for those who've been doing the mommies - you know who you are!
- How do you manage getting into their pants?
- What do you do FOR them/pay them afterwards - if any.
- what did/do they expect out of you
- How would you rate your experience withe these mommies vs/ doing it w/the gals
- would you repeat/keep on doing it?
SE Asia Joe

Wait a sec, I actually do have firsthand knowledge of this subject! I have banged a few of them there and I will say all were excellent. I think 2 of them must have been WG's before being promoted or they learned a lot talking to their girls.

One of the better one's (my opinion) still works in CP on the strip. She is around her late 20's early 30's, has a nice face and bigger boobs. I can introduce her next time you are in town. How the story goes with her;

I had been drinking beer with Santa one night till around 2 am, decided I wanted a shot and walked in front of the Lucky in hopes of finding the MPV mommy. This particular mommy asked me if I wanted a girl, I said yes, so she said she would go back to my hotel room with me and call one over.

After I saw around 4-5 of her girls, I told the mommy they were sub par and I did not want (they were young, but common and plain). As a joke, I said I would certainly feck her though. After she deliberated on it for a few minutes, we talked business and I got her for 300 (sorry guys, she is a mommy and it was late).

This gal fecked my brains out, one of the best ones I've had out there! Smoking hot, nice firm titties, trimmed beaver and took good care of her body. Now for you naysayers or those who think I am FoS, if you ever get a chance to feck her, you will notice she has a tattoo across her belly, kind of a flame design in red/yellow ink.

Of the others, I used to bang the young mommy behind the Hui Mei from Chongqing. She worked in the old hotel there, she has since gone back home and even though she was not all that pretty (very dark skin), she was excellent in bed and I got her for 200 the first time, subsequent visits were "on the house". Funny thing is, I have only ever pulled one WG from that shop and the service was horrible.

The third one was from the Night Market and she was an Asst. Mommy (sic my post about the smoking hot semi-retarded superstar) and the final one came from the Yalan Area.

Overall, they all were excellent, very GFE, and not so run through and lazy as their employees. Of the 4, I have reported on 3 of them, if one wishes to read my old posts.

I wouldn't mind laying the pipe to the twins who work behind the Hui Mei and there is also one over at the Swan Lake who looks tasty.

Hope this helps answers your questions with my personal experiences with some of them. Maybe Wadman can tell you how Sandy is in the sack ;)

-CPE

SE Asia Joe
01-11-08, 07:55
Wait a sec, I actually do have firsthand knowledge of this subject! I have banged a few of them there and I will say all were excellent.

-CPE
Thanks for the heads up Cpat - just the kind of answer/info I was looking for!
Actually, one Mommie I certainly would not mind doing is JoJo with the braces. Anybody know anything about her/suggestions as to how to approach her?
OK all you other Mother Feckers - come on out with YOUR true confessions
SE Asia Joe

Wadman
01-11-08, 08:06
Maybe Wadman can tell you how Sandy is in the sack ;)
-CPE

Very funny CPE. Sandy is the ugliest mommie at Yalan, and Yalan has a lot of ugly mommies. I use Sandy to leverage her girls into better service, but lately her girls have gone downhill. Sometimes she only has a couple of girls, not sure what's up.

Jojo is arguably the prettiest mommie, but her girls are not so good.

I don't like to bed mommies, it complicates things. The problem with freebies is to get them to "go away" of course. After dumping her, it makes it very awkward to go back into her shop, or even shops in the area. I prefer to chat and watch porn with them.

Old Mean Dog
01-11-08, 09:11
Thanks for the heads up Cpat - just the kind of answer/info I was looking for!
Actually, one Mommie I certainly would not mind doing is JoJo with the braces. Anybody know anything about her/suggestions as to how to approach her?
OK all you other Mother Feckers - come on out with YOUR true confessions
SE Asia Joe

Joe,

My thoughts about you trying to hook up with Jojo....forget about it, unless she is in love with you and you intend on marrying her.

-CPE

Bnlee2
01-11-08, 15:19
im guilty...i also banged a mommy but in sha tsui. a few years back in the old glory days of sha tsui.. i got to know a up and cuming mommy and i gather that she did not have an outside life and wanted to latch on to me. the first few tricks i paid..paid and paid. then she started to do a lot of extra stuff like massaging me afterward and even brought me food and even peel fresh fruit for me to eat.

the thing that got me nervous was when she wanted to move the relationship to the next step...being more exclusive to me. the day she started to complain that she didn't want to money... that was when i started to have second thoughts... when she started to show up to my hotel unexpectedly..that was when i thought about getting rid of her.

i gather that a couple of girls told her that i was in town and she showed up unexpectedly and call my number... ahh.. that was the beginning of the end.

it was fun while it lasted..

OldAsiaHand
01-11-08, 15:38
Jack Fordham,

What do you expect for 35-40 RMB? You can get FS for less than that in the catacombs if you have the stomach for it.

Just my POV.

OAH



I see that is what I thought after reading some of the postings here. I really wish I knew about this site when I lived in Dongguan. So in these "tug and rubs" I should not expect anything beyond the half ass massage and a hand job ? NO BJ's or full service ?

OldAsiaHand
01-11-08, 15:47
Freepeaks,

This very subject has been discussed in the past at very, very, great length and all your questions have been answered.

RTFF!

OAH



Can anyone tell me which hotel is better.

is it better to be in same hotel as KTV?

And which one has better internet service?

Jack Fordham
01-12-08, 02:18
Are you kidding me? 35rmb for a handjob is a great deal. But I never tried for more and was wondering if the girls in these "tug and rubs" would do more if offered some more money or if I should just take the handjob and not look for a BJ or FS in these tug and rubs.


Jack Fordham,

What do you expect for 35-40 RMB? You can get FS for less than that in the catacombs if you have the stomach for it.

Just my POV.

OAH

Old Mean Dog
01-12-08, 05:08
Are you kidding me? 35rmb for a handjob is a great deal. But I never tried for more and was wondering if the girls in these "tug and rubs" would do more if offered some more money or if I should just take the handjob and not look for a BJ or FS in these tug and rubs.

Ahhh, but you ain't seen the shithole you get it in. Imagine a room with a filthy and soiled bed where she looks as excited to pound your pud as most people are to watch mold grow.

-CPE

Jack Fordham
01-12-08, 07:10
Ahhh, but you ain't seen the shithole you get it in. Imagine a room with a filthy and soiled bed where she looks as excited to pound your pud as most people are to watch mold grow.

-CPEYes I know they are real dumps. Will the girls do more than just a handjob or am I wasitng my time asking (even if I offer more money) ? I guess I am just trying to get a handle on where I can/should try for more and where I should not. I actually got a handjob at some legit massage places before but not often. And I dont know how to appraoch it in these legit places. I am strange I get off on getting a free handjob when I know they aren't supposed to give them out at these legit places:) Any insight as to how to "read" a situation in China (especially Dongguan) is greatly appreciated. Jack Fordham

Superforce99
01-12-08, 16:14
Since I can't think of an easier, more streamlined place where you could line up cute girls to fuck endlessly one after the other, and thus the best place to hit upon a target via "shotgun" method, I was wondering this:

has anyone encoutered a Chinese girl/working gal who was a squirter?

I don't mean gets dripping wet, makes the sheets all wet, or whatever...I mean like literally a gusher coming out. I guess I've been watching too much Japanese porn lately, but it got me thinking how I've never encountered that in China. An old GF in the States was kind of a squirter, but it still wasn't the crazy Old Faithfuls I see in the Japanese videos...


J

Datiao
01-12-08, 22:43
I have known my 25 year-old Guangzhou girlfriend (sort of freebie) for around 2 years. For the first 1 year I did not know she was a squirter till one day when I was DATY her that I got my lower face wet. Then I realise that during the past I rarely ate her, and after that DATY was always on the warming up list with switching to missionary alternatively I would say at least 30% of these sessions she would squirt.
She is sort of sex-starved and often wakes me up around 6am for a session before she goes to work, told me she likes to do it in the morning. There goes my sleep!

Justinya77
01-13-08, 05:29
I also have first hand knowledge of Mommie and Xiao Mommie lov'in.

(IMHO) A mommie that has seen you refuse a number girls and yet you stay at the KTV and party with friends (all the while treating her with respect) and then leave empty handed is more succeptable to advances. I have worked this angle, unknowingly until now. The question got me to analyze the progress of events that lead to these very nice experiences.

When I returned to the KTVs at a later date and met the same Mommie again. I would politely tell her that her girls didn't interest me and that I wanted her. This and being willing to show her some respect goes miles.

Rain Forest Cafe CP 1 Mommie, 1 Xiao mommie, Fu Chung Qiaotou 1 Xiao Mommie, I forget the name of the place in Dongguan (heavy drinking that night) 1 xiao mommie, Lotus Lake Resort Qiaotou 1 xiao Mommie. There is another Mommie at the Wellton in Qiaotou that is willing but I have been restrained.

Okay this may not be the same as a street mommie (those hard core veterans that battle inclement weather and plenty of insults) but, everyone likes to feel they are special and desired.


Wait a sec, I actually do have firsthand knowledge of this subject! I have banged a few of them there and I will say all were excellent. I think 2 of them must have been WG's before being promoted or they learned a lot talking to their girls.

-CPE

SE Asia Joe
01-14-08, 05:30
has anyone encoutered a Chinese girl/working gal who was a squirter?
I don't mean gets dripping wet, makes the sheets all wet, or whatever...I mean like literally a gusher coming out. I guess I've been watching too much Japanese porn lately, but it got me thinking how I've never encountered that in China. An old GF in the States was kind of a squirter, but it still wasn't the crazy Old Faithfuls I see in the Japanese videos...
J
Ahhh yes - squirters. To me they're prized and very special. With them, you can be 100% sure that you ARE De Man and have satisfied them. Proof positive!
And yes, I've had a few of them in my lifetime - too few actually but all of them very memorable to me. Mostly from Hong Kong, a couple when I was in the States - and here goes - a China Mommie who was sort of a freebie/short term GF. So yes, there are PRC gals who squirt - but I've NOT had a straight WG - anywhere - who squirted. Wonder if these squirters who works as a WG controls themselves from squirting with customers? I mean - there MUST be squirters who works as WG's right?
Jeez - re-reading this piece makes me feel a bit perverted!
SE Asia Joe

SE Asia Joe
01-14-08, 07:50
Guys:
Dongguan is so large yet, of late, there has only been reports about the perrenial favorite ChangPing and only some from locations south of i.e. Crown Prince in Huangjiang or the Goodview at Tanxia etc. You guys don';t go to Dongguan city, Houjie Humen etc West of Changping?
Eons ago I used to go a lot to Houjie and partook at great places like at the Jia Hua or Cinese or even some of the special places at Dongguan City (I used to say let's go to DC - much better than saying DongXing or Tung Sing - which prying ears instantly recognize. Guess that's why now I also say lets go to CP instead of saying as ChangPing!).
Would love to get updated reports on these other locations in dongguan - which I am 99% sure must also still be rockin!
SE Asia Joe

OldAsiaHand
01-14-08, 08:59
I have also done 2 of the strip mommies in CP. I have also done a couple of xiao mommies, but IMHO, these are only a WG in a black suit.

I was seeing the first one for around 8 months. She had some tough times. Got knocked up by one local guy that dumped her when he found out about it. She got an abortion and swore off men completely. I caught her on the rebound and took her out for dinner a few times. She always tried to sell me her girls, but I always insisted on doing her. She always refused. Finally, after recovering from her abortion, she agreed. Besides the dinners, I only bought her some clothes for 270RMB. She has since returned to Changsha.

The second one I did just recently. Same approach. Showed me girls. I refused saying I wanted to do her. She asked me for 300 RMB, but I told her that mommies should be free based on my experience. When she figured out that I was serious, she was going to leave at first, but then changed her mind. The sex was fantastic, but I am ashamed to reveal who she is. I am sure most of you would not even consider doing her. She told me she had not been fucked in a long time. Whether it was true or not (believable based on her appearance and actions during the deed), the fantasy of this really got me excited to do her.

OAH

Old Mean Dog
01-14-08, 11:12
I have also done 2 of the strip mommies in CP. I have also done a couple of xiao mommies, but IMHO, these are only a WG in a black suit.

I was seeing the first one for around 8 months. She had some tough times. Got knocked up by one local guy that dumped her when he found out about it. She got an abortion and swore off men completely. I caught her on the rebound and took her out for dinner a few times. She always tried to sell me her girls, but I always insisted on doing her. She always refused. Finally, after recovering from her abortion, she agreed. Besides the dinners, I only bought her some clothes for 270RMB. She has since returned to Changsha.

The second one I did just recently. Same approach. Showed me girls. I refused saying I wanted to do her. She asked me for 300 RMB, but I told her that mommies should be free based on my experience. When she figured out that I was serious, she was going to leave at first, but then changed her mind. The sex was fantastic, but I am ashamed to reveal who she is. I am sure most of you would not even consider doing her. She told me she had not been fucked in a long time. Whether it was true or not (believable based on her appearance and actions during the deed), the fantasy of this really got me excited to do her.

OAH


Ahhhh, now we know who is keeping Sandy content!

Seems the only person who ain't bagged a mommy is Santa! Come on old man get yer self one and join the team.

-CPE

Pointpanic
01-14-08, 17:58
Guys:
Dongguan is so large yet, of late, there has only been reports about the perrenial favorite ChangPing and only some from locations south of i.e. Crown Prince in Huangjiang or the Goodview at Tanxia etc. You guys don';t go to Dongguan city, Houjie Humen etc West of Changping?
Eons ago I used to go a lot to Houjie and partook at great places like at the Jia Hua or Cinese or even some of the special places at Dongguan City (I used to say let's go to DC - much better than saying DongXing or Tung Sing - which prying ears instantly recognize. Guess that's why now I also say lets go to CP instead of saying as ChangPing!).
Would love to get updated reports on these other locations in dongguan - which I am 99% sure must also still be rockin!
SE Asia Joe

There is a hotel called Nile Villa International Hotel next to the new South China Mall(which was vacant one year ago) near DC. We went to sauna and the selection was fantastic. The girls wear belly dancer outfits. I must assume that the girls at the KTV wear the same outfits. It is on South Wandao Rd.

ManonsanBoy
01-14-08, 19:45
Most of the reports are about CP but CP is only one of many locations in Dongguan. However, I think they are roughly similar, including prices. Top end sauna, 1000 and low end BBS, cheapest I have seen is 100 in Guanlan Town. I have never been to the catacoombs.

Bill Lee
01-15-08, 10:43
The LE was out last night. They took in two mommies last night and as of Tuesday afternoon, still haven't release them.

The standalone shops (baby, jojo, banyon tree and new #1 shop) were all closed. The Yalan KTV, R2 KTV and Silver Star KTV had less than 50% of their normal stock.

New Years is coming to CP and the picking is getting slim.

Bill

Wapec
01-15-08, 17:52
Hey CPExpat

I reckon that Santa is saving himself for the midget Mommies ? Heard that Yalan will be receiving a special delivery just in time for Santa's New Year's party plans. They're offering him a special deal 2 for the price of 1 !!!! But Santa is salivating at the thought of a fivesome.

Santa

Just tell us all to shag off. For myself, I'm just pissed that you shagged every gal I had before I even arrived in CP. Keep up the good work :-) No bad service.

Ciao,

Wapec

Pointpanic
01-16-08, 02:20
WaikikiBob is now Pointpanic. Bob is no longer an appropriate name for ISG. Will be in CP on March 3 for a week. Bringing some friends from the midwest, one who has never been in Asia. It should be a real treat to see him the first night at a KTV.

Manfest
01-16-08, 02:32
The LE was out last night. They took in two mommies last night and as of Tuesday afternoon, still haven't release them.

The standalone shops (baby, jojo, banyon tree and new #1 shop) were all closed. The Yalan KTV, R2 KTV and Silver Star KTV had less than 50% of their normal stock.

Great meeting some and catching up with others last night. OAH, Santa, BillLee, Pleasure Dude, Bob Sacamano, Weelock, Race track, CPExpat collectively made for a great evening! At various venues, the signs of LE were apparent: the HuiMei BBS shops were sparse, checked out CoCo's shop with 3 WG (as an aside, Coco and JoJo probably are the best looking mamasans). The Yalan area as mentioned above. A smaller group went out to the night market, and to my uninitiated eye, looked quite good (although during the 15 minutes spent shopping, 2 police vehicles passed through). Santa and I pulled from here.

My girl said she was 18, new to the biz, from the Shanghai area. Terrible BJ but great FS! She wore one of those red strings around her waist (see picture), so I thought that meant 24 years old, but she insisted 18 (OAH confirmed), and she knew the birth year without having to think about it (1989, although that math is not too difficult). Anyway, nice sweet, slightly innocent feel to her, so thoroughly enjoyed the experience. Racetrack, that makes 7 out of 7 good experiences in the CP BBS!

Bill Lee
01-16-08, 13:07
As of 7:30 p.m. was not opened for business.

Anybody else with update on the Yalan or Hui Mei alley?

Bill

RasSpewtin
01-16-08, 15:06
Bill:

Sorry that I don't have any news to offer, but there was a strange coincidence. Just after I saw your post, I checked the Angeles City (Philippines) thread. I learned that they have banned barfines there altogether, and this could be permanent by some accounts.

Not intending to hijack your posts by any means, Bill. I had some excellent times in CP over the past year, and hope that this crackdown is only temporary.

Raz


As of 7:30 p.m. was not opened for business.

Anybody else with update on the Yalan or Hui Mei alley?

Bill

Instructor
01-16-08, 17:15
Anyone for a cp hunt 19-20 jan?

I know nothing of this area (other than what I read) and open to hotels
and agenda. Interested in KTV party?

Send me a PM.I will be there with afew friends, try Sin Dee disco, can high.

Pleasure Dude
01-17-08, 10:19
Just got back to the U.S. and still thinking about the wonderful 3 days in CP. I want to thank OAH, Bill Lee, Santa, Bob Sacamano, Weelock, and especially my KTV buddy Race track for a great time and company. Even though the quantity of the girls was scarce due to the crack down, I was still happy to see all the different BBS and even the catacomb. A few of the girls at the catacomb were doable but the room was just nasty. I wonder if you can take the girls out.

As usual, the choices of the KTV girls were just overwheleming at Ji Yi. There were at least 200 girls standing around for you to pick from. The only thing I don't like about the KTV is the mommies tend to push their own girls too hard to the customers. Race Track must know about that very very well. Can't wait to go back again.

PD

Erik
01-17-08, 11:15
What you people call Baby's shop, is it the wide warehouse a the back of R2 disco, down the stree of Swan lake hotel, where girls are sitted on separate sofa according to whom they work for and wose mamasan have R2 displayed on their cards ? I was taken to this place and was asked 250 Y by the one who looked the most influencial laobanniang, a dry and hard face woman called Dandan. Is it the normal price ?
Thanks

Erik
01-17-08, 11:20
Sorry, two more questions :
What is the ''night market'' ? What is the way to get there ?
And what is the way to the Catacombs ?
Thanks

Old Mean Dog
01-17-08, 14:09
What you people call Baby's shop, is it the wide warehouse a the back of R2 disco, down the stree of Swan lake hotel, where girls are sitted on separate sofa according to whom they work for and wose mamasan have R2 displayed on their cards ? I was taken to this place and was asked 250 Y by the one who looked the most influencial laobanniang, a dry and hard face woman called Dandan. Is it the normal price ?
Thanks

No. Baby's is down an alley, not too far from the Swan Lake.

Swan Lake/R2 always tries to squeeze 250 out of you by touting their girls as KTV hostesses, don't let 'em play ya.

-CPE

Old Mean Dog
01-17-08, 14:13
Sorry, two more questions :
What is the ''night market'' ? What is the way to get there ?
And what is the way to the Catacombs ?
Thanks

Night Market is just a street, before you come to the Yalan Area. BBS Shops open on this street after 10 pm, it is normally freelance xiaojies, part-timers and a few KTV girls not chosen for the evening looking to make some scratch. This area has been getting squeezed by the cops lately, be careful.

Catacombs are a few blocks behind the Walter Hotel in the slums, advise not to go alone and think twice if you don't have anyone in your party who doesn't speak Chinese.

-CPE

Wapec
01-17-08, 16:23
For want of sounding like a broken record or a crass ass, thanks and appreciation to Santa, Bill Lee (aka Lucky #11 but one hears #16 was too), Wheelock, OAH, Race Track, Bob, PD, CPExpat, Wadman, SEAsiaJoe, Mr. LED et al for the respect during my recent visit.

Special mention to Santa & Bill for taking me under their wing and protecting me from my ignorance & ego. Decent of you for the straight up and no shit philosophy.

Thanks!

Wapec

Loso69
01-17-08, 21:50
Visited the Yalan BBS where you walk into the restaurant, then up the stairs. This afternoon around 5 PM, there were over 50 girls. Normally, the girls sit on one side; the customers sit on the opposite bench. This afternoon, the place was choc-a-bloc full of girls and I had to squeeze my ass in between them. :) I picked Juen Juen. She combined looks & performance. :)

When I revisited the BBS with a couple of friends after 9 PM, I was shocked to find the place closed. In fact, the only Yalan BBS that was open tonight was the one on the 5th floor. Three Vietnamese girls were present, including Wang, featured in my report over a year ago. Vietnamese Dhin Dhin wouldn't take pictures. I ended up getting my 2nd dose of TLC at the Night Market.

Loso

DayNight
01-18-08, 05:13
I am just back from a short stay in Changan and a real surreal encounter.

I did some late night BBS checking in the near freezing cold. There were not too many BBS, I maybe saw 5 or so. Most were seriously understaffed, and worse, staffed with the wrong kind.

After a long long stroll I returned to one earlier seen BBS with 5 or so gals. The chosen one was just ok (I mainly need slim, rest does not matter too much).

We went upstairs to her apartment. Must have been a 10 story or building with no lift. The room was still occupied with a guy (her husband?) and a small kid, maybe 4-5 years old. He was still doing homework with the kid (it was near midnight). Anyway, out they went.

We chose the bed with the kids toys, which we removed. The girl undressed, but something was fishy - right! The smell!!! The bathroom standard was just too low and it was too cold to go into the art of pussy washing. So I left it there. I usually like to play fingering pussy, but from experience I know that the smell is very hard to remove from your hand, so I preferred not to touch.

As sort of for play she starting kissing me, licking my nipples etc. Quite enthusiastic. It also made me forgetting pussy smell as her breath for far worse. The stench was incredible.

She put on the latex and started a CBJ - no way I would have allowed a BBBJ anyway. That was shortly followed by FS, which took some time considering the circumstances, and she seems to really enjoy that longer time (not that I really cared at that moment).

After the deed I jumped into my clothe, paid the 130 (tip was out of question and not asked for) and back to my hotel for a long long shower to get rid of her breath smell.

Santa
01-18-08, 10:40
Baby, Jojo and Tree shops are all still closed.

The Tree shop moved a few girls to a new and inconvenient location, but the selection was poor and desperate.

Jojo doesn't know when or if she can reopen.

At Baby's shop I did not see the camera, which may be a sign that the closure is permanent. They moved girls to the 2nd floor Yalan shop, which is why that shop is now overcrowded.

Half of the shops at the back of HuiMei have been closed for a long time now and the selection of girls remaining is small and not of good quality.

Bill Lee
01-18-08, 12:28
No mommies in sight at Yalan except in the restaurant or hotel. One mommy told me that they are now sending the mommies to jail for as long as two years.

Weird, even though the sentence is fairly long, there's still mommies out and about and in hiding doing what they do best.


Bill

Old Mean Dog
01-18-08, 18:38
No mommies in sight at Yalan except in the restaurant or hotel. One mommy told me that they are now sending the mommies to jail for as long as two years.

Weird, even though the sentence is fairly long, there's still mommies about and in hiding doing what they do best.


Bill

I wonder if it is due to the Spring Festival and Olympics coming or if my observations are coming true?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=679400#post679400

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=681439#post681439

Is this the beginning of the end?

From my PoV....Enjoy it while you can, because it won't be around much longer, at least not in CP.

-CPE

Furias
01-18-08, 18:55
Well, we do see these crackdowns every year before Spring Festival. And this year, with the Olympics you know they're going to be even more strict. There have been several stories in the newspapers here in SZ (both English and Chinese) about cleaning up the BBS shops, but so far it doesn't seem much different than in previous years.

Also interesting is that in SZ I see LE cracking down in Seibu (where there's a fair laowai customer base) but not in the smaller areas around Nanshan and Shekou. Maybe they're just being overlooked because they're smaller, but I would guess that this all goes to making a show for foreigners. In a town like CP (which isn't really known for much else beside foreign mongering) you just have to feel like it's all a bit too "out in the open".

God help any poor Chinese person who make China look bad to the world during the Olympics. The trial will last 6 seconds, and you know what the outcome will.

Dan Hawaii
01-18-08, 19:24
Bill:

Sorry that I don't have any news to offer, but there was a strange coincidence. Just after I saw your post, I checked the Angeles City (Philippines) thread. I learned that they have banned barfines there altogether, and this could be permanent by some accounts.

Not intending to hijack your posts by any means, Bill. I had some excellent times in CP over the past year, and hope that this crackdown is only temporary.

Raz
Is banning barfines a good or bad thing? I'm heading to PI on Jan 25.

Wordwiz
01-18-08, 20:58
Has anyone been to the Miraton lately, is it a good choice in Dongguan?

Nero X
01-18-08, 22:05
Has anyone been to the Miraton lately, is it a good choice in Dongguan? Theres a lot of posts which talk about this place on here.

I enjoyed my stay at Miraton. Loved using the computer in my room, can be booted to 3 different languages, fast and everything I needed. Rooms are beautiful. Prices are very reasonable as well. Gets my 10 rating for Price: Quality.

SE Asia Joe
01-19-08, 02:31
Has anyone been to the Miraton lately, is it a good choice in Dongguan?
For a wordwiz, you certainly ain't too wizardly in your choice of words!
Good choice??!! Good choice for WHAT?
SE Asia Joe

Wordwiz
01-19-08, 02:37
What I meant is, a good choice of places to stay for mongering and is it a nice hotel.

Old Mean Dog
01-19-08, 05:35
Has anyone been to the Miraton lately, is it a good choice in Dongguan?

A bit of advice, click on the tab marked "Search" and type in Miraton or just use your scroll button. There has been tons of reports mentioning Miraton Hotel, because it's where over 50% of the guys stay.....

-CPE

Loso69
01-19-08, 07:06
The girls from the 2nd floor shop above the restaurant in Yalan were on the 3rd floor yesterday. Limited selection (10-15) girls, but my friends and I were still able to find a girl to our liking.

When I spotted a girl applying her lipstick at the night market beauty shop, my eyes popped. Tiny nose, chiseled chin, big eyes, reddish brown hair with bangs. Sheer perfection! This is a supermodel face in my eyes.

Loso

Fast Eddie 48
01-19-08, 12:09
I arrive on Thursday night late.

I'm staying at Hua Yu hotel.

I head to Yalan.

All shop is closed.

There is a new shop down the street from Swan Lake.

Many girls, but no quality.

I headed to Jia Yi Flower St.

Many girls, and is pack with customers.

CP is getting worst and worst, so I only stayed one night and left and head to Zhu Hai.

I think bbs will be all closed soon and only KTV and sauna action will be around.

Fast eddie 48

Old Mean Dog
01-19-08, 17:22
The girls from the 2nd floor shop above the restaurant in Yalan were on the 3rd floor yesterday. Limited selection (10-15) girls, but my friends and I were still able to find a girl to our liking.

When I spotted a girl applying her lipstick at the night market beauty shop, my eyes popped. Tiny nose, chiseled chin, big eyes, reddish brown hair with bangs. Sheer perfection! This is a supermodel face in my eyes.

Loso

Loso, one word: Stunning.

Pointpanic
01-19-08, 20:23
The girls from the 2nd floor shop above the restaurant in Yalan were on the 3rd floor yesterday. Limited selection (10-15) girls, but my friends and I were still able to find a girl to our liking.

When I spotted a girl applying her lipstick at the night market beauty shop, my eyes popped. Tiny nose, chiseled chin, big eyes, reddish brown hair with bangs. Sheer perfection! This is a supermodel face in my eyes.

Loso
Is the girl wearing a school uniform? I agree with "stunning"

Santa
01-19-08, 21:24
Well, Loso is a very good photographer, and suspect she looks better in the picture than she does in real life. I notice that she is wearing a lot of facial paint, especially around the eyes. Her hair is also dyed.

Maybe without the putty and paint she has a bad complexion.

Sorry if I spoiled the fantasy.

Most of the girls at the night market are low quality, so if she really is hot she is a very rare find.

Do you remember the picture of the thief, posted by Bill Lee and Loso. Well, she looked really good in Loso's photo. But in reality, she was too chubby, not so cute, and had a bad attitude. Great blowjob, but watch your pockets!

Santa
01-19-08, 21:43
I arrive on Thursday night late.

I'm staying at Hua Yu hotel.

I head to Yalan.

All shop is closed.

There is a new shop down the street from Swan Lake.

Many girls, but no quality.

I headed to Jia Yi Flower St.

Many girls, and is pack with customers.

CP is getting worst and worst, so I only stayed one night and left and head to Zhu Hai.

I think bbs will be all closed soon and only KTV and sauna action will be around.

Fast eddie 48

There were a few mommies working inside the hotels saturday night, but the usual street mommies are no longer around. Cp seemed to be very quiet for a saturday.

Where have all the mommies gone?

Loso69
01-19-08, 22:54
Well, Loso is a very good photographer, and suspect she looks better in the picture than she does in real life. I notice that she is wearing a lot of facial paint, especially around the eyes. Her hair is also dyed.

Maybe without the putty and paint she has a bad complexion.

Sorry if I spoiled the fantasy.

Most of the girls at the night market are low quality, so if she really is hot she is a very rare find.

Ting Ting wears a lot of make-up, but her complexion is perfect. She really is that hot! :D

She went berserk as I was eating her pussy yesterday, sat her soaking wet snatch down on my dick and started fucking my brains out. She kept going after I shot my load! :)

I saw her again tonight, but she wouldnít go with me. My dick is too big! :confused:


Do you remember the picture of the thief, posted by Bill Lee and Loso. Well, she looked really good in Loso's photo. But in reality, she was too chubby, not so cute, and had a bad attitude. Great blowjob, but watch your pockets!

My picture was taken with a professional camera. Bill Leeís picture was taken with a cell phone. Does that make a difference? Duh!

Chubby? Sure. Not so cute? Her complexion wasnít perfect, but she covered it with make-up. Bad attitude? Bullshit. 2 BBBJCIM & 2 fucks, both preceded by BBBJ. Most of these fragile porcelain China Dolls wouldnít be able to walk if I fucked them as hard as I fucked her. In terms of performance, sheís the best girl Iíve ever had in Changping. Watch your pockets? I donít have to. Theyíre empty!

Loso

Sukhumvit Sam
01-20-08, 00:21
Guys,

I can confirm what's been reported here about CP a few posts down:

It's over. This place is dead and buried. Done. An expired parrot.

By way of perspective: I came to southern China for the first time ever just two weeks ago. So I'm a complete newbie to the local scene. I have however pursued this "hobby" of ours in Qingdao (with a report in that thread), South Korea, Thailand (whence my handle), and elsewhere. So while I may be "green" here in CP, I'm not utterly clueless or a complete rube--and yes, I have RTFF'ed this Dongguan/CP thread like mad already.

When I first showed up in CP two weeks ago, the invaluable knowledge gained from ISG (this thread in particular, of course) led me to the Yalan hotel area. I went on foot, twice, each time somewhat after dark. The first time was quite nice: a "mommie" led me right upstairs (up the elevator a few floors, in fact) to a stable of perhaps as many as 40 or 50 gals. She was *very* sweet, this mommie, though with quite limited English, smiling at me a lot and really helping to make me feel comfortable. Sensing my indecision, I think, she chose an SP for me out of the stable. Back to my hotel room by mommie-provided van. (Too expensive at 20 RMB for a short hop, but who cares, really?) NO WALK OF SHAME, as others here have reported, ie, the girl did NOT check in at the desk, no hotel staffers so much as looked in our direction as we entered the hotel (4 star, BTW). Service in my bedroom was not exactly GFE but not at all bad either. Not at all bad. 200 yuan plus tiny "taxi money" tip of 10, which she seemed almost reluctant to ask for. No complaints. (Quite cute gal, BTW, didn't speak English, claimed to be Viet.)

Second experience, following night: Back to Yalan. Second mommie approached me, on the street, wordlessly (no English) guiding me to the same place. No sight of the previous night's gal. Second gal presented to me, from the front of the lineup. Very attractive. I really don't like to assign numbers; it seems so dehumanizing (though I suppose they do have their use, as a kind of shorthand). Let's just say that she was a slim, attractive--very attractive--woman of about 23.

Back to my hotel room. No walk of shame, once again. Only this time, no shower either! She couldn't wait! Never mind my age (39) or beer gut or whatever else, this gal honest-to-God just couldn't wait to get going! She DFK'd me like mad and stripped off her clothes with abandon, literally tossing them from the bed without any thought to where they might land. Total, full-on, passionate lovemaking, with evident enjoyment on both sides. Thought I'd died and gone to heaven, guys--it was that good.

Unfortunately, I had business in another city (within China) the next day, and so was out of CP for about a week. Couldn't wait to get back--especially since the SP's in the other city (I'll post seperately, in that thread) literally either wouldn't look at me or (in one case) just plain looked at me in horror the moment I walked in the door. (Blue-eyed serial killer? What were they thinking? Oh dear . . .)

So it was with great expectation that I came back to Dongguan/CP two days ago, willingly braving the nearly two-hour taxi ride from Guangzhuo (CAN) airport, only to discover the following:

No mommies anywhere to be found in the Yalan area. OK, one unsmiling woman attempted to direct me into a KTV, but it was just not the same thing. Need I explain?

Curiously, too, seemingly no SW action. There was one exception: a rather plain-looking gal, who'd approached me last week. I gave her the cold shoulder on my way to Yalan, hoping for a repeat of that awesome GFE with the looker. Later, circling back to find Miss Plain, she was nowhere in sight.

I've now spent the past two nights utterly sexless in CP, and NOT for want of trying. Guys, anything you've read in this thread previously, about how "men are the hunted" here or "CP is the Pattaya of China" or "just step outside your hotel and the mamasans will be on you like white on rice"--forget it. Last week, maybe. This week, No.

So congratulations, Chinese LE. You've really done your job! The "Pattaya of China" is now its Salt Lake City--almost overnight!

To cover all bases: I know that right here within my own CP hotel, some floors below me, I could get lots of err . . . "services" in the sauna and KTV.

Two problems with that: 1) money. 2) hassle.

Regarding 1): I am not a rich man. No shame in that. By the time I've paid for airfare, hotel rooms, restaurant meals, no, I'm not in the position to throw around thousands and thousands of RMB. Hundreds, sure, which is why 200 a shot at BBS's would make for a delightful short stay. Also, I fear getting ripped off in places (such as saunas, MPs, and KTVs) where you may not be quite sure how the bill will be padded.

Even more fundamentally, though: While I'm not dead broke, and did consider both the in-house KTV and sauna for earlier tonight, after failing to be made a decent offer during NEARLY TWO HOURS of walking all around the Yalan vicinity (before and then after dinner), I frankly don't want to deal with the extra stuff. That's to say, even pretending that I want to sing a few songs, la la la, karaoke, or really want to sit/lie through a massage (which may or may not be nice in its own right), or get unnecessarily wet in some sauna room bath--when what I want is just plain sex, back in my room, without any of the pretense or nonsense, let alone the unnecessary fees, for unnecessary extras . . .

And guys, Nobody here speaks English. (OK, so you long-termers know this, but newbies won't.) Nobody! I've honest-to-God had difficulty getting meals, since Room Service at one of this city's top hotels do not understand a word of English, and menus at neighboring restaurants are almost all in Chinese characters only. Go to Pattaya (which is NOT the CP of Southeast Asia; if it were, no one would bother going!) and people more or less at least TRY to speak English. The language barrier never results in your going hungry down there, anyway.

Sidewalks (pavements, for you Brits)--yeah, trivial point, I know--but if you're out walking, looking for any of those SWs or mommies who are supposed to be "on you like white on rice" according to a previous report here. The sidewalks all around this area are torn up, with paving stones strewn everywhere, heaps of gravel and sand in the center of the road, trash everywhere, not to mention people spitting at your feet . . . Walking any distance, at least in my part of CP, near the Yalan, is NOT pleasant.

In summary:

Do NOT come to CP is you like sex. You won't get any! (Unless you bring your own woman, or enjoy KTV/sauna.)

Do NOT come to CP is you like food (and can't read Chinese characters). I guarantee you: big, big, big headache, just getting a meal--even in a 4-star hotel!

Do NOT . . . well, you get the idea.

Anyone henceforward daring to represent CP as "the Pattaya of China" or anything remotely like it, deserves the utter undying enmity of any true mongers out looking for a good time, and had probably better start putting up retractions on this thread posthaste. Sorry to be so harsh, but guys: I COULD BE IN PATTAYA RIGHT NOW, OR ANGELES CITY, AND INSTEAD CAME TO CP LARGELY--ENTIRELY!--ON THE STRENGTH OF POSTS IN THIS THREAD ON ISG! AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET LAID HERE, TWO NIGHTS RUNNING NOW! IT'S THAT FREAKING BAD!

Utter catastrophe. Or, from LE's point of view, I guess, victory achieved.

Stay away, friends.

Though again, all this could change next week: that's how volatile things seem to be.

If it changes tomorrow, I'll be the first to deliver a new weather report. But I'm not counting on it.

Dan Hawaii
01-20-08, 01:49
Guys,

I can confirm what been's reported here about CP a few posts down:

It's over. This place is dead and buried. Done. An expired parrot.

By way of perspective: I came to southern China for the first time ever just two weeks ago. So I'm a complete newbie to the local scene. I have however pursued this "hobby" of ours in Qingdao (with a report in that thread), South Korea, Thailand (whence my handle), and elsewhere. So while I may be "green" here in CP, I'm not utterly clueless or a complete rube--and yes, I have RTFF'ed this Dongguan/CP thread like mad already.

When I first showed up in CP two weeks ago, the invaluable knowledge gained from ISG (this thread in particular, of course) led me to the Yalan hotel area. I went on foot, twice, each time somewhat after dark. The first time was quite nice: a "mommie" led me right upstairs (up the elevator a few floors, in fact) to a stable of perhaps as many as 40 or 50 gals. She was *very* sweet, this mommie, though with quite limited English, smiling at me a lot and really helping to make me feel comfortable. Sensing my indecision, I think, she chose an SP for me out of the stable. Back to my hotel room by mommie-provided van. (Too expensive at 20 RMB for a short hop, but who cares, really?) NO WALK OF SHAME, as others here have reported, ie, the girl did NOT check in at the desk, no hotel staffers so much as looked in our direction as we entered the hotel (4 star, BTW). Service in my bedroom was not exactly GFE but not at all bad either. Not at all bad. 200 yuan plus tiny "taxi money" tip of 10, which she seemed almost reluctant to ask for. No complaints. (Quite cute gal, BTW, didn't speak English, claimed to be Viet.)

Second experience, following night: Back to Yalan. Second mommie approached me, on the street, wordlessly (no English) guiding me to the same place. No sight of the previous night's gal. Second gal presented to me, from the front of the lineup. Very attractive. I really don't like to assign numbers; it seems so dehumanizing (though I suppose they do have their use, as a kind of shorthand). Let's just say that she was a slim, attractive--very attractive--woman of about 23.

Back to my hotel room. No walk of shame, once again. Only this time, no shower either! She couldn't wait! Never mind my age (39) or beer gut or whatever else, this gal honest-to-God just couldn't wait to get going! She DFK'd me like mad and stripped off her clothes with abandon, literally tossing them from the bed without any thought to where they might land. Total, full-on, passionate lovemaking, with evident enjoyment on both sides. Thought I'd died and gone to heaven, guys--it was that good.

Unfortunately, I had business in another city (within China) the next day, and so was out of CP for about a week. Couldn't wait to get back--especially since the SP's in the other city (I'll post seperately, in that thread) literally either wouldn't look at me or (in one case) just plain looked at me in horror the moment I walked in the door. (Blue-eyed serial killer? What were they thinking? Oh dear . . .)

So it was with great expectation that I came back to Dongguan/CP two days ago, willingly braving the nearly two-hour taxi ride from Guangzhuo (CAN) airport, only to discover the following:

No mommies anywhere to be found in the Yalan area. OK, one unsmiling woman attempted to direct me into a KTV, but it was just not the same thing. Need I explain?

Curiously, too, seemingly no SW action. There was one exception: a rather plain-looking gal, who'd approached me last week. I gave her the cold shoulder on my way to Yalan, hoping for a repeat of that awesome GFE with the looker. Later, circling back to find Miss Plain, she was nowhere in sight.

I've now spent the past two nights utterly sexless in CP, and NOT for want of trying. Guys, anything you've read in this thread previously, about how "men are the hunted" here or "CP is the Pattaya of China" or "just step outside your hotel and the mamasans will be on you like white on rice"--forget it. Last week, maybe. This week, No.

So congratulations, Chinese LE. You've really done your job! The "Pattaya of China" is now its Salt Lake City--almost overnight!

To cover all bases: I know that right here within my own CP hotel, some floors below me, I could get lots of err . . . "services" in the sauna and KTV.

Two problems with that: 1) money. 2) hassle.

Regarding 1): I am not a rich man. No shame in that. By the time I've paid for airfare, hotel rooms, restaurant meals, no, I'm not in the position to throw around thousands and thousands of RMB. Hundreds, sure, which is why 200 a shot at BBS's would make for a delightful short stay. Also, I fear getting ripped off in places (such as saunas, MPs, and KTVs) where you may not be quite sure how the bill will be padded.

Even more fundamentally, though: While I'm not dead broke, and did consider both the in-house KTV and sauna for earlier tonight, after failing to be made a decent offer during NEARLY TWO HOURS of walking all around the Yalan vicinity (before and then after dinner), I frankly don't want to deal with the extra stuff. That's to say, even pretending that I want to sing a few songs, la la la, karaoke, or really want to sit/lie through a massage (which may or may not be nice in its own right), or get unnecessarily wet in some sauna room bath--when what I want is just plain sex, back in my room, without any of the pretense or nonsense, let alone the unnecessary fees, for unnecessary extras . . .

And guys, Nobody here speaks English. (OK, so you long-termers know this, but newbies won't.) Nobody! I've honest-to-God had difficulty getting meals, since Room Service at one of this city's top hotels do not understand a word of English, and menus at neighboring restaurants are almost all in Chinese characters only. Go to Pattaya (which is NOT the CP of Southeast Asia; if it were, no one would bother going!) and people more or less at least TRY to speak English. The language barrier never results in your going hungry down there, anyway.

Sidewalks (pavements, for you Brits)--yeah, trivial point, I know--but if you're out walking, looking for any of those SWs or mommies who are supposed to be "on you like white on rice" according to a previous report here. The sidewalks all around this area are torn up, with paving stones strewn everywhere, heaps of gravel and sand in the center of the road, trash everywhere, not to mention people spitting at your feet . . . Walking any distance, at least in my part of CP, near the Yalan, is NOT pleasant.

In summary:

Do NOT come to CP is you like sex. You won't get any! (Unless you bring your own woman, or enjoy KTV/sauna.)

Do NOT come to CP is you like food (and can't read Chinese characters). I guarantee you: big, big, big headache, just getting a meal--even in a 4-star hotel!

Do NOT . . . well, you get the idea.

Anyone henceforward daring to represent CP as "the Pattaya of China" or anything remotely like it, deserves the utter undying enmity of any true mongers out looking for a good time, and had probably better start putting up retractions on this thread posthaste. Sorry to be so harsh, but guys: I COULD BE IN PATTAYA RIGHT NOW, OR ANGELES CITY, AND INSTEAD CAME TO CP LARGELY--ENTIRELY!--ON THE STRENGTH OF POSTS IN THIS THREAD ON ISG! AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET LAID HERE, TWO NIGHTS RUNNING NOW! IT'S THAT FREAKING BAD!

Utter catastrophe. Or, from LE's point of view, I guess, victory achieved.

Stay away, friends.

Though again, all this could change next week: that's how volatile things seem to be.

If it changes tomorrow, I'll be the first to deliver a new weather report. But I'm not counting on it.
Tell it like it is brother. I experienced this another time I came to China in the year 2000 something. No WGs available like I remembered from the previous years coming to CP. Was like wtf I'm I doing here and wtf happened to this place? Lucky my Hong Kong friend knew of some places to party like clubs, and had a pretty decent time getting drunk as a skunk with all his buddies. But girls were scarce and of low quality. Yeap, that's CP, sometimes it's good and sometimes it's like now. Like you said, "volatile" is a perfect word.

Traveler1234
01-20-08, 03:13
Do not despair, all is not lost - check your pm for contact of my personal CP pimp :)

Bill Lee
01-20-08, 04:04
I got you two rooms yesterday at the Miraton with the corporate rate. They told me you and your friend had already checked in. Call me when you have a chance? Double check the rate when you have a chance, if it's not the corporate, I can get it fixed. But it has to be as early as possible.


Bill

Loso69
01-20-08, 07:32
I've now spent the past two nights utterly sexless in CP, and NOT for want of trying.

I'm in the same town as you. I don't speak any Chinese either. I fucked 2 girls a day the last 2 days, from Yalan and the Night Market. OK, so there are no mommies on the main street in Yalan. But there are in the restaurant and in the alley. There are plenty of girls at the Night Market as well. CP isn't exactly kicking, but it ain't dead!

A friend of mine texted JoJo yesterday. She replied her shop would be reopening on Monday. So things are looking up!

Loso

Old Mean Dog
01-20-08, 07:34
Well, Loso is a very good photographer, and suspect she looks better in the picture than she does in real life. I notice that she is wearing a lot of facial paint, especially around the eyes. Her hair is also dyed.

Maybe without the putty and paint she has a bad complexion.

Sorry if I spoiled the fantasy.

Most of the girls at the night market are low quality, so if she really is hot she is a very rare find.

Do you remember the picture of the thief, posted by Bill Lee and Loso. Well, she looked really good in Loso's photo. But in reality, she was too chubby, not so cute, and had a bad attitude. Great blowjob, but watch your pockets!

Come on Santa, even the movie stars and models ain't as stunning in RL as in the movies or on the runway! I remember my fantasy girl, Farrah Fawcett, I used to beat off to her bikini poster all the time. Then I saw her at an event once and I thought it must have been her mother cuz she was an old, wrinkled bag 'o bones....

So what if the girl is wearing makeup, has her hair dyed or Loso is an expert photographer. I don't want her, nor will I pursue her, but the photo of her face is stunning and could be in any modeling book.

-CPE

Santa
01-20-08, 10:53
Don't get me wrong, I'm not being critical. Great photo and she looks hot. But, too much makeup for me. When they have too much makeup on they remind me of a circus clown. As they say, beauty is the eyes of the beholder.

Bill posted two photos, only because he wanted to expose a thief. One from a cellphone and one from a good camera. The second picture was very good, but not as good as Loso's. No offence to my pal Bill. He has thousands of pictures of girls and he is also a good photographer.

Bill Lee
01-20-08, 13:27
cause even the jerkoff joint with the orange uniform was closed.

The Yalan street was cleared of mommy tonight. The 5th floor shop had 5 girls. Baby, Jojo, new 1st floor shop (across from 5th floor) and Banyun tree were closed.

Happy New Years. :>(
Bill

Santa
01-20-08, 16:33
All of the HuiMei alley shops were closed today. There are a few mommies around, they are desperate to make sales, but they are obviously afraid to approach any potential new customers.

Pointpanic
01-20-08, 18:53
Cause even the jerkoff joint with the orange uniform was closed.

The Yalan street was cleared of mommy tonight. The 5th floor shop had 5 girls. Baby, Jojo, new 1st floor shop (across from 5th floor) and Banyun tree were closed.

Happy New Years. :>(
Bill

Bill, have you heard why the LE is doing the shutdown? It is usually for some political reason or it may be an economic reason. Are the hotel owners pushing the LE to close the shops? Do the LE want bigger shares? Is it being done to keep out tourists who do not use the KTVs? Maybe the mommies know?

Santa
01-20-08, 21:46
I walked around the Lucky and Huimei area after midnight tonight and didn't see any mommies or working girls. Zero!

A local restaurant owner told me he saw the police take away 3 mommies and 20 girls last night.

Bill Lee
01-21-08, 00:37
Unless you're part of the inner circle of the government, it's a guess and your guess is good as mines.

At Coco's shop behind the HuiMei, there was only one girl to offer and my fellow monger declined.

Bill


Bill, have you heard why the LE is doing the shutdown? It is usually for some political reason or it may be an economic reason. Are the hotel owners pushing the LE to close the shops? Do the LE want bigger shares? Is it being done to keep out tourists who do not use the KTVs? Maybe the mommies know?

SE Asia Joe
01-21-08, 04:08
Unless you're part of the inner circle of the government, it's a guess and your guess is good as mines.

At Coco's shop behind the HuiMei, there was only one girl to offer and my fellow monger declined.

Bill
As per your recommendation, I did call JoJo before I left yesterday and she did provide me with an OK gal. This gal told me that she hadn't been back to work practically all of last week as the shop had been closed/she really needs to get work/she needs to get some fast cash to go back home for the New year. Air of desperation!
But did all this translate into better servicing/wanting to please? NOPE! Just the standard fare and she would only allow me to take fully clothed pictures of her!
SE Asia

Loso69
01-21-08, 06:18
Walking towards Yalan yesterday, we were approached by a runner who took us to the Tree BBS that Santa said had been relocated to an inconvenient location. Quite a few cuties! I picked a tall beauty called Yezi. In the taxi, it turned out she had a PDA! In the room, she was a total starfish. :(

Went to the Silver Star BBS for my 2nd helping. Ming Ming was cute as a button. Sheís one of the very few CP girls Iíve been with that showed signs of childbirth, but she was a total sweetie and a real winner. :)

Loso

ABCinLA
01-21-08, 06:49
Unless you're part of the inner circle of the government, it's a guess and your guess is good as mines.

At Coco's shop behind the HuiMei, there was only one girl to offer and my fellow monger declined.

Bill
Ok, I didn't take her as I had seen a girl walking around one of the floors of the Lucky Hotel earlier more to my liking. I called the mommie and paid her 100 and said I would only give 50 to the girl if I didn't like her service but will give her 100 if I got great service. The girl readily agreed to the situation and gave me a GFE the way I like it.

But right now IMHO if a newbie just arrives today in CP with no language skills either in Cantonese or Mandarin the BBS scene can be frustrating without veteran help.

Superforce99
01-21-08, 11:08
Had an interesting time in CP and it was good to see a bunch of ISG guys, including a few I met for the first time. Hope y'all had fun at the KTV that night...

*********

Nothing much to add so I'll write down a few of my thoughts/experiences:

-I was staying at Penninsula and rooms are OK, but if you have a choice between Swan Lake and Penninsula, choose Swan Lake because the rooms are essential the same but 20% cheaper (roughly 240RMB vs 300RMB, weekend rates)

-the taxi driver from the train station was being an asswipe, asking me "do you know how to go to the Miraton? I don't...so guide me on which road to take" after I got in the taxi.

Much to his surprise, I was able to guide him there with only one wrong turn and the final fare being 10 RMB instead of the normal 8-9 RMB. As a tip, I gave him a nice little insult, "If you wanted to earn an extra 1-2 RMB, you don't have to try and trick me, I'll just give it to you. I found 2 RMB on a toilet's floor today and how perfect you wanted it." And ofcourse, "Thank you for the ride, enjoy being a taxi driver for the next few years of your life."

And to add to his confused/frustrated feelings, I rapped along (in English) with his radio broadcast of a late 1990's DJ Rhettmatic's cut of some Jurassic 5 song (I wouldn't expect it to be played in the US, muchless China, so I was floored, but it gave me awesome flashbacks to my fun university years...). He was actually trying to sound cool and "rap"/head-nod to it, so I couldn't resist, ha ha...

-Took a walk around Yalan and Baby's shop and things seems deserted and/or closed (Saturday night)

-Night market was closed until about 12 midnight and then some gals filtered in but very slim pickings

-I spent most of my time with a foot massage freebie and the most interesting point of the weekend, besides teaching her how to BBBJCIM, was taking her to the Silvery Springs Health Center for a relaxing evening at about 2am. She had a few friends who work there and wanted to get a massage for herself. I got one in the same room from another of her friends and then was semi-asleep within minutes. They noticed that I wasn't too conscious so they started chatting away like gals at a slumber party and here were some of the more interesting snippets of conversation (thank god for my Chinese skills) between these three non-p4p massage gals:

*they don't like HK guys very much because they speak Cantonese/bad Mandarin, and play around with as many girls as they can
*they don't like Taiwanese guys for the same reason but can relate a little bit better because of Mandarin
*they are not impressed with foreigners who can speak Chinese....they are impressed with foreigners who can speak, listen, read, and write Chinese
*they think fat/old/ugly customers are disgusting and nasty
*they like guys with handsome faces and nice bodies
*most plain/ugly massage gals have 2-3 customers pursuing them for some type of relationship outside of work, and the gals expect it to be sexual/shopping type immediately or eventually. The better looking ones have anywhere from 5-20 (!) guys persuing them...
*large cocks are annoying and not preferred, but tolerated under certain circumstances
*the more massages they give, the more their body hurts
*a lot of massage girls become KTV KJs because they feel it's a generally more lucrative job than a massage girl and provides good balance of not too much drinking/OK salary/not too demanding, but they complained that if a customer likes a KJ and she doesn't do ST/overnight leading to the customer complaining and not returning to the KTV, the managers will begin to force a KJ to do ST/overnight. (reinforced my general belief that repeat customers have major clout, while new/small customers don't mean shit).
*it would be nice to find a non-demanding boyfriend who would provide financial support so they don't have to be massage girls


Ha ha...I'm sure most of those nuggets of information shouldn't be any great revelantion to most of you. But in general, it was interesting to hear how these girls talk amongst themselves in a free, private environment.

As the Chinese New Year crackdown/working-girl-exodus-home continues (I doubt any Olympics connection), hope you guys in CP stay safe and avoid troubles.


J

ABCinLA
01-21-08, 13:55
IMHO the ones who get the really high number volume of freebie action with regular girls(office workers, clerks, teachers etc.) are the guys who work QQ (dating website) this includes older Taiwanese guys (40 plus). I'm not saying some "white lies" aren't being said nor no money changes hand (typically transportation costs).
Generally from personal observation they stay away from those who know English and converse entirely in Chinese. So plenty of freebie action with regular girls (unrelated to personal services) for all guys who can work it on QQ. Age range is typically 25 to 35 plus (lots of the 30 pluses need some loving too) no need to chase just the personal service girls only as even the 6 plus among them supposedly have too many pursuers. Of course if a guy is younger than 40 they can get down to 18 or so on QQ.


Had an interesting time in CP and it was good to see a bunch of ISG guys, including a few I met for the first time. Hope y'all had fun at the KTV that night...

*********

Nothing much to add so I'll write down a few of my thoughts/experiences:

-I was staying at Penninsula and rooms are OK, but if you have a choice between Swan Lake and Penninsula, choose Swan Lake because the rooms are essential the same but 20% cheaper (roughly 240RMB vs 300RMB, weekend rates)

-the taxi driver from the train station was being an asswipe, asking me "do you know how to go to the Miraton? I don't...so guide me on which road to take" after I got in the taxi.

Much to his surprise, I was able to guide him there with only one wrong turn and the final fare being 10 RMB instead of the normal 8-9 RMB. As a tip, I gave him a nice little insult, "If you wanted to earn an extra 1-2 RMB, you don't have to try and trick me, I'll just give it to you. I found 2 RMB on a toilet's floor today and how perfect you wanted it." And ofcourse, "Thank you for the ride, enjoy being a taxi driver for the next few years of your life."

And to add to his confused/frustrated feelings, I rapped along (in English) with his radio broadcast of a late 1990's DJ Rhettmatic's cut of some Jurassic 5 song (I wouldn't expect it to be played in the US, muchless China, so I was floored, but it gave me awesome flashbacks to my fun university years...). He was actually trying to sound cool and "rap"/head-nod to it, so I couldn't resist, ha ha...

-Took a walk around Yalan and Baby's shop and things seems deserted and/or closed (Saturday night)

-Night market was closed until about 12 midnight and then some gals filtered in but very slim pickings

-I spent most of my time with a foot massage freebie and the most interesting point of the weekend, besides teaching her how to BBBJCIM, was taking her to the Silvery Springs Health Center for a relaxing evening at about 2am. She had a few friends who work there and wanted to get a massage for herself. I got one in the same room from another of her friends and then was semi-asleep within minutes. They noticed that I wasn't too conscious so they started chatting away like gals at a slumber party and here were some of the more interesting snippets of conversation (thank god for my Chinese skills) between these three non-p4p massage gals:

*they don't like HK guys very much because they speak Cantonese/bad Mandarin, and play around with as many girls as they can
*they don't like Taiwanese guys for the same reason but can relate a little bit better because of Mandarin
*they are not impressed with foreigners who can speak Chinese....they are impressed with foreigners who can speak, listen, read, and write Chinese
*they think fat/old/ugly customers are disgusting and nasty
*they like guys with handsome faces and nice bodies
*most plain/ugly massage gals have 2-3 customers pursuing them for some type of relationship outside of work, and the gals expect it to be sexual/shopping type immediately or eventually. The better looking ones have anywhere from 5-20 (!) guys persuing them...
*large cocks are annoying and not preferred, but tolerated under certain circumstances
*the more massages they give, the more their body hurts
*a lot of massage girls become KTV KJs because they feel it's a generally more lucrative job than a massage girl and provides good balance of not too much drinking/OK salary/not too demanding, but they complained that if a customer likes a KJ and she doesn't do ST/overnight leading to the customer complaining and not returning to the KTV, the managers will begin to force a KJ to do ST/overnight. (reinforced my general belief that repeat customers have major clout, while new/small customers don't mean shit).
*it would be nice to find a non-demanding boyfriend who would provide financial support so they don't have to be massage girls


Ha ha...I'm sure most of those nuggets of information shouldn't be any great revelantion to most of you. But in general, it was interesting to hear how these girls talk amongst themselves in a free, private environment.

As the Chinese New Year crackdown/working-girl-exodus-home continues (I doubt any Olympics connection), hope you guys in CP stay safe and avoid troubles.


J

Moody
01-21-08, 14:52
I did a search and didn't see any reports on Di Hao Hua Yuan Jiudian KTV, AKA Royal Garden Hotel. Anyway, tried it out last night on the recommendation of a former manager at a CP KTV. He tells me the place is a little over a year old. It's in Dalang Town, about 20 minutes by car from CP.

This place is bar none, the best looking KTV I have EVER been to and that's saying a lot because I've been to a LOT of them. The place is relatively new and the housekeeping staff there do an excellent job. I could hardly detect any scent of stale booze anywhere. We got a rather large room, I think the minimum was 1800 IIRC. The room had 2 bathrooms which I think every KTV should start doing in their larger rooms. As the evening draws, there's always a friggin line at the bathroom.

If any of you KTV guys get tired of the scene in CP and want to try out something new, I highly recommend giving this place a visit. Rates are 3-6-9 for the regular girls and they have a group of "model" girls who go for 5-15. The ST rate is probably 12, but I can't say for sure because I didn't ask. To be honest, the girls there weren't anything special, a bit taller on average than girls in CP, but that might have been the impression I got because we saw a bunch of model groups. I did ask one of the girls and she told me that a lot of girls didn't come out to work that particular day for two reasons. One, a lot of them were getting ready to go back to their home towns so took the day off, two, not many customers come on Sunday so a lot of them take the day off anyway.

Sukhumvit Sam
01-21-08, 16:17
I'm in the same town as you. I don't speak any Chinese either. I fucked 2 girls a day the last 2 days, from Yalan and the Night Market. OK, so there are no mommies on the main street in Yalan. But there are in the restaurant and in the alley. There are plenty of girls at the Night Market as well. CP isn't exactly kicking, but it ain't dead!

A friend of mine texted JoJo yesterday. She replied her shop would be reopening on Monday. So things are looking up!

Loso

Loso, man, I don't doubt your story. A couple of points though:

By rebutting my claim that "CP is dead," you might be giving a false hope to other newbies like me. Do I have to put one hand on my heart and the other on a stack of Bibles?: I'm on my fourth night here, and have literally spent hours out and about looking for action, with no luck. (Until earlier tonight, finally--heh, heh, heh!)

The simple fact that you've got a friend who's texting JoJo indicates that you are not a complete newcomer to this CP scene. Your insider knowledge has undoubtedly helped you the past couple of nights; either that, or you were fantastically lucky; or I was fantastically unlucky!

My own on-the-ground observations of the last few nights, however, simply reinforce what others have been posting on this thread: It's become very, very cautious out there. There's clearly a fear that's set in since just last week. A fear which may be just strong enough to keep SPs and mommies from approaching strangers. If your face is familiar, and mine isn't, that may be all that's needed to account for your general success and my general failure.

I've walked right past many, many gals who have that look: the way they dress, that certain something in their behaviour or facial expression which indicates that they're on the game. Again and again, they ignore me. I can give them a look, not give them a look, loiter a few feet away and hope for an approach: nothing works. Last week it was different. This week, I might just as well have been a ghost.

In every other respect imaginable, my stay here in CP has been shambolic. I ordered beef curry off a bilingual menu the other day, in one of the very few restaurants which actually HAS a bilingual menu, and was brought fish. (I'm allergic. Walked out without paying, which must have looked quite rude, and might even be illegal, who knows.) In a 4-star hotel restaurant earlier today, I ordered a martini and was brought a shot of vermouth in a tumbler, with ice on the side. I tried explaining to the manager that a martini is gin, with a splash of vermouth, in a martini glass; he inferred that I wanted a margarita. The margarita then brought me oddly contained no tequila or lime juice. It DID have salt round the rim of the glass, but otherwise, I haven't the faintest idea what it was. A few sips were enough for me.

To be sure, it's China, so why do I expect Western-style food and drink? Well, if they advertise it, why can't they deliver? And it's not as though I'm being fine-tooth-comb finicky. Fish ain't beef. A glass of wine ain't a martini . . .

Oh yeah, before I forget. I spent the better part of my afternoon trying to get a phone number for China Southern (needing to reconfirm my flight out). Four-star hotel, again. There's the assistant manager in his suit and tie, a cell phone to either ear, pretending to help me. I've only gone to him because the reception staff had given me a number which didn't work. He gives me another number--which doesn't work. I go back. He demands to know whether I'm changing my flight time. "No," I attempt to explain, "reconfirming." He repeatedly asks me, "change time?" while pretending to dial up all his friends for help in getting CZ's number, and giving me that "What-are-you-crazy?" look as I deny yet again wanting to "change" my time. Another assistant manager, later in the day, argues with me at length that there's no need to reconfirm ("we don't do that in China") in spite of the fact that my ticket envelope explicitly informs me that I'll be denied a seat if I don't give 72 hours' advance notice of intent to fly, by phone . . .

Friends, tell me if I'm wrong: My inability to use a Chinese phonebook is down to my not having been born and raised in China (and then chosen to major in Russian, rather than Chinese, at university). Their inability to use a Chinese phonebook is down to . . . ?

No end to the hassles. It's just not, not, NOT easy here, or fun, or in any way agreeable, UNLESS you've been here long enough to have figured out your MO, mastered the language, made contacts, and so on. Otherwise, I still say, on more than abundant evidence, stay away from CP. I sure as heck will be!

Moody
01-21-08, 16:44
Suk Sam,

Just go to a sauna. I don't know which hotel you're staying at so can't tell you which floor, but it's usually either the 7th or 4th and marked as VIP or something like that. Sauna in CP hotel isn't what you think. There's no pool, there's no getting naked with other guys, it's basically a hotel room usually with either extra toys or extra mirrors. The preliminaries are pretty quick, maybe 5 minutes to pick the girl you want. It's a bit more expensive, usually 300 tip to the girl and 2-300 fee for the room, but I'm sure some of the other guys will attest, it's pretty good.

BTW, the number for China Southern could be easily found yourself by doing a simple Google search.

Link to website:

http://www.cs-air.com/en/skypearl/06/index.htm

and their phone number:

HotLine:8620-950333

Looks like a Guangzhou number, so you probably have to dial 020-950333. That's also probably why they couldn't pull the number for you from a phone book. Most likely, they don't have a Guangzhou phone book. As for the rest, as they say, "that's China."

Wapec
01-21-08, 16:48
Try the Hua Mei, Miraton or Red Lion Hotel Sauna's. Assume to spend ballpark RmB 500 - 550 for 90 mins. 300 direct to gal and rest for Room usually pay after.

Good luck and good balling :-) Post your feedback for the community.


Suk Sam,

Just go to a sauna. I don't know which hotel you're staying at so can't tell you which floor, but it's usually either the 7th or 4th and marked as VIP or something like that. Sauna in CP hotel isn't what you think. There's no pool, there's no getting naked with other guys, it's basically a hotel room usually with either extra toys or extra mirrors. The preliminaries are pretty quick, maybe 5 minutes to pick the girl you want. It's a bit more expensive, usually 300 tip to the girl and 2-300 fee for the room, but I'm sure some of the other guys will attest, it's pretty good.

Sukhumvit Sam
01-21-08, 17:37
thanks for your attempt at helping me, but a couple of points:

my own google search took me down all number of dead-end roads. i got international (outside-of-china) numbers only at one of the top links, and even tried dialling the seoul, korea office. didn't work. it didn't even look like a korea number. sure, google should in theory put all the world's knowledge at your fingertips, but it doesn't always work that way.

possibly by sheer bad luck, i may have checked into the one major hotel in town which doesn't have a sauna. a "spa," on floors 4 through 6 (i think), yes. oh dear. i did the entire "spa" routine last night. ok, so it was mostly pretty nice: shower, sauna (yeah, the hot room kind, not the euphemism kind), fully legit chinese massage . . . and that was all that seemed to be on offer.

lots and lots of naked guys, btw, around the central pool. and when i consented to the skin scrape, or whatever it's called, i had absolutely no idea that the guy who does this thing would be putting his (fortunately perhaps gloved) hand down my ass crack and around my balls.

give me credit for trying, anyway, will you?

all was not lost, in the end: wish i had video of my hotel room from a few hours back. anyway, it was dreadfully difficult to find. i'd give out the location of the goldmine, but since it's clearly meant to be hidden, sorry, can't. don't mean to tease. word will soon get out, if it hasn't already. you guys with friends who text jojo will be right on top of these things; i'll be moving on the greener pastures . . .


suk sam,

just go to a sauna. i don't know which hotel you're staying at so can't tell you which floor, but it's usually either the 7th or 4th and marked as vip or something like that. sauna in cp hotel isn't what you think. there's no pool, there's no getting naked with other guys, it's basically a hotel room usually with either extra toys or extra mirrors. the preliminaries are pretty quick, maybe 5 minutes to pick the girl you want. it's a bit more expensive, usually 300 tip to the girl and 2-300 fee for the room, but i'm sure some of the other guys will attest, it's pretty good.

btw, the number for china southern could be easily found yourself by doing a simple google search.

link to website:

http://www.cs-air.com/en/skypearl/06/index.htm

and their phone number:

hotline:8620-950333

looks like a guangzhou number, so you probably have to dial 020-950333. that's also probably why they couldn't pull the number for you from a phone book. most likely, they don't have a guangzhou phone book. as for the rest, as they say, "that's china."

Manfest
01-21-08, 19:37
Try the Hua Mei, Miraton or Red Lion Hotel Sauna's. Assume to spend ballpark RmB 500 - 550 for 90 mins. 300 direct to gal and rest for Room usually pay after.

Credit to Racetrack for this information:
If you stay at the Miraton, then the sauna girl cost in your room is RMB400 total! You go down, pick up from the lineup, and go to your room. They bring all the stuff to your room. Great quality and relative bargain.

Manfest
01-21-08, 19:43
Don't get me wrong, I'm not being critical. Great photo and she looks hot. But, too much makeup for me. When they have too much makeup on they remind me of a circus clown. As they say, beauty is the eyes of the beholder.

Santa, great meeting you and thanks for your hospitality. Funny thing is, you met Tingting last week when I picked her up from the night market!! :) I think this is a testament to how many girls you've met and had (read all of them)! She was in the van with us. I took some pictures, but posted only the body shot with the red string around her waist (few posts back). Cheers and have a great CNY! Catch up with you next time.

Loso69
01-21-08, 20:57
The simple fact that you've got a friend who's texting JoJo indicates that you are not a complete newcomer to this CP scene. Your insider knowledge has undoubtedly helped you the past couple of nights; either that, or you were fantastically lucky; or I was fantastically unlucky!

My own on-the-ground observations of the last few nights, however, simply reinforce what others have been posting on this thread: It's become very, very cautious out there. There's clearly a fear that's set in since just last week. A fear which may be just strong enough to keep SPs and mommies from approaching strangers. If your face is familiar, and mine isn't, that may be all that's needed to account for your general success and my general failure.


This is my 4th visit to CP. The mommies do know my face. My friends don't speak any Chinese whatsoever and have spent less time in CP than I. BTW, JoJo's shop was still closed today. Maybe tomorrow...

Hereís what you do. You walk or take a taxi/van to the Yalan hotel. As you enter the street, the first building on the right hand side (opposite side of Yalan hotel) is the Silver Star KTV. Next to it is a restaurant. The women sitting at the table opposite the stairs are mommies. If they totally ignore you, youíre right: A newbie canít get laid in CP. But someone will probably escort you up the stairsÖ

Or find your way to the Night Market. There are girls on the pavement; there are girls in the beauty shop. Just say hello to any girl you fancyÖ and sheíll soon be in your room. And if youíre very lucky, the mommies may even open the door to the couple of BBS that are open these days.

Loso

Loso69
01-21-08, 21:19
Santa, great meeting you and thanks for your hospitality. Funny thing is, you met Tingting last week when I picked her up from the night market!! :) I think this is a testament to how many girls you've met and had (read all of them)! She was in the van with us. I took some pictures, but posted only the body shot with the red string around her waist (few posts back). Cheers and have a great CNY! Catch up with you next time.

What was Ting Ting fixing herself in that picture of yours? Hot water with tons of sugar? :)

Loso

Playboy2000
01-22-08, 01:07
I am back in the States after 6 evening in CP (interrupted by for a few days with a biz trip).

I met so many members...unfortunately I can't remember all their names.

Highlights:

- Had a great time going to Jia Yi and Miraton KTV with Pleasure Dude.
- Had a wonderful KTV experience with Jim Travelr at the Peninsula KTV.
- Had another fun time crashing Dan Hawaii's KTV party at the Peninsula on Saturday night.
- Had several nice sauna sessions at the Miraton
- Had a rushed experience with a BBS girl. (You usually get what you pay for)
- Had a romantic evening with my English-speaking "girlfriend" from Jia Yia on my last night.
- Had an "interesting" walk through the Catacombs. Saw some weird shit.

I would like to thank many people for helping me make this a wonderful second trip. Thanks to Pleasure Dude, Jim Traveler, OAH, Bill Lee, Manfest, Dan Hawaii, Weelock and many others. Regret not seeing CPExpat on this trip. Also regret not seeing more of Manfest.

During this trip I was equipped with about 150 words of Mandarin. It actually came in handy at times...but still couldn't communicate with the girls. I am shooting for 300 words for the next trip!

Loso69
01-22-08, 04:54
Spent the last week in CP. Even with the crackdown, pretty China Dolls were easy enough to find. Good service was a lot harder to come by. As I've said before, the service level in CP seems to have gone way down since my 1st visit in December 2006.

This is Yezi, requested by Chang Ping. She almost managed a smile in this picture. She was basically sour-faced and complaining the whole time.

Anyway, I'm off to Manila today. Loso checking out...

Loso

Old Mean Dog
01-22-08, 05:21
Spent the last week in CP. Even with the crackdown, pretty China Dolls were easy enough to find. Good service was a lot harder to come by. As I've said before, the service level in CP seems to have gone way down since my 1st visit in December 2006.

This is Yezi, requested by Chang Ping. She almost managed a smile in this picture. She was basically sour-faced and complaining the whole time.

Anyway, I'm off to Manila today. Loso checking out...

Loso

Loso,

Ever thought of doing a photo book of "The Girls of Chang Ping"? I would certainly buy one, as long as it wasn't too expensive, because I'm a cheap bastard.

-CPE

SE Asia Joe
01-22-08, 05:49
*they don't like HK guys very much because they speak Cantonese/bad Mandarin, and play around with as many girls as they can
*it would be nice to find a non-demanding boyfriend who would provide financial support so they don't have to be massage girls
Ha ha...I'm sure most of those nuggets of information shouldn't be any great revelantion to most of you.

J
Now why would they say that they don't like us nice Hong Kong guys who play around with as many girls as we can - we provide emloyment and I would suggest - the pillar of thye CP economy! Without us guys these gals would literally be fucked!
And its us HKG guys who are non-demanding BF providing financial support - after all its only us guys who would "demand" of services of our mistresses during week-ends and the odd week-day golf trips. The rest of the time these gals are on their own doing "whatever." With the locals and the long staying Taiwanese - hell, they get their meat pounded daily. Besides which, us Hong Kong guys are all softees and gentlemen ain't we???!!
SE Asia Joe

SE Asia Joe
01-22-08, 05:54
- Had a romantic evening with my English-speaking "girlfriend" from Jia Yia on my last night.
!
Hey Race - howzabout auctioning off to the highest bidder contact info of your "ENGLISH SPEAKING GIRLFRIEND" in CP. Hell, most of the non-chinese speaking mongers on ISG would give their eye teeth for such a contact - Look at poor old Sukhumvit!
Hell, even me the Hong Kong guy would probably also bid as I do need such a gal on my books, the odd time that I do need to host Laowais.
SE Asia Joe

Old Mean Dog
01-22-08, 06:34
Hey Race - howzabout auctioning off to the highest bidder contact info of your "ENGLISH SPEAKING GIRLFRIEND" in CP. Hell, most of the non-chinese speaking mongers on ISG would give their eye teeth for such a contact - Look at poor old Sukhumvit!
Hell, even me the Hong Kong guy would probably also bid as I do need such a gal on my books, the odd time that I do need to host Laowais.
SE Asia Joe

I've met her before, good looking and a really sweet girl!

Hey RT,

I thought she said she was only in the "business" to earn some money to go home ;)

-CPE

Dan Hawaii
01-22-08, 07:31
Had an interesting time in CP and it was good to see a bunch of ISG guys, including a few I met for the first time. Hope y'all had fun at the KTV that night...

*********

Nothing much to add so I'll write down a few of my thoughts/experiences:

-I was staying at Penninsula and rooms are OK, but if you have a choice between Swan Lake and Penninsula, choose Swan Lake because the rooms are essential the same but 20% cheaper (roughly 240RMB vs 300RMB, weekend rates)

-the taxi driver from the train station was being an asswipe, asking me "do you know how to go to the Miraton? I don't...so guide me on which road to take" after I got in the taxi.

Much to his surprise, I was able to guide him there with only one wrong turn and the final fare being 10 RMB instead of the normal 8-9 RMB. As a tip, I gave him a nice little insult, "If you wanted to earn an extra 1-2 RMB, you don't have to try and trick me, I'll just give it to you. I found 2 RMB on a toilet's floor today and how perfect you wanted it." And ofcourse, "Thank you for the ride, enjoy being a taxi driver for the next few years of your life."

And to add to his confused/frustrated feelings, I rapped along (in English) with his radio broadcast of a late 1990's DJ Rhettmatic's cut of some Jurassic 5 song (I wouldn't expect it to be played in the US, muchless China, so I was floored, but it gave me awesome flashbacks to my fun university years...). He was actually trying to sound cool and "rap"/head-nod to it, so I couldn't resist, ha ha...

-Took a walk around Yalan and Baby's shop and things seems deserted and/or closed (Saturday night)

-Night market was closed until about 12 midnight and then some gals filtered in but very slim pickings

-I spent most of my time with a foot massage freebie and the most interesting point of the weekend, besides teaching her how to BBBJCIM, was taking her to the Silvery Springs Health Center for a relaxing evening at about 2am. She had a few friends who work there and wanted to get a massage for herself. I got one in the same room from another of her friends and then was semi-asleep within minutes. They noticed that I wasn't too conscious so they started chatting away like gals at a slumber party and here were some of the more interesting snippets of conversation (thank god for my Chinese skills) between these three non-p4p massage gals:

*they don't like HK guys very much because they speak Cantonese/bad Mandarin, and play around with as many girls as they can
*they don't like Taiwanese guys for the same reason but can relate a little bit better because of Mandarin
*they are not impressed with foreigners who can speak Chinese....they are impressed with foreigners who can speak, listen, read, and write Chinese
*they think fat/old/ugly customers are disgusting and nasty
*they like guys with handsome faces and nice bodies
*most plain/ugly massage gals have 2-3 customers pursuing them for some type of relationship outside of work, and the gals expect it to be sexual/shopping type immediately or eventually. The better looking ones have anywhere from 5-20 (!) guys persuing them...
*large cocks are annoying and not preferred, but tolerated under certain circumstances
*the more massages they give, the more their body hurts
*a lot of massage girls become KTV KJs because they feel it's a generally more lucrative job than a massage girl and provides good balance of not too much drinking/OK salary/not too demanding, but they complained that if a customer likes a KJ and she doesn't do ST/overnight leading to the customer complaining and not returning to the KTV, the managers will begin to force a KJ to do ST/overnight. (reinforced my general belief that repeat customers have major clout, while new/small customers don't mean shit).
*it would be nice to find a non-demanding boyfriend who would provide financial support so they don't have to be massage girls


Ha ha...I'm sure most of those nuggets of information shouldn't be any great revelantion to most of you. But in general, it was interesting to hear how these girls talk amongst themselves in a free, private environment.

As the Chinese New Year crackdown/working-girl-exodus-home continues (I doubt any Olympics connection), hope you guys in CP stay safe and avoid troubles.


J
Hey Johnny,

Great info on cp girl gossip. Wow, very interesting.

It was nice seeing you again. But I have to admit I was a little confused about what you looked like. I don't want to sound stupid, but the last time I saw you was at the bbs (yalan ktv - second floor). It was very brief and AG pointed to someone and said that's Johnny Kon. I thought he pointed to the round eye guy that has a muscular build. I don't know who that was, but you guys were hunting together. So all this time I thought you looked like that. Then when you came in to the ktv couple of nights ago, SE Asia Joe said, "look, Johnny Kon is here", then I was like "where?" I was like wtf!!! Shit, sorry man. I got my shit mixed up. But now I know. :)

Was a pleasure to meet all you guys at one of the most happening ktv parties I have ever been to. Lots of familiar faces and lots of new faces. Was really a night to remember. Thanks everyone.

SE Asia Joe
01-22-08, 08:23
Hey Race Track,

"turn off the cold". hahahaha :)

That's RT's way of telling the DJ to turn off the AC in the KTV.
Hey Dan - Is your silent cruiser hawaiian team enjoying the CP scene to the max? They certainly seem to have been "very preoccupied" most of the time at the K-ok! And who was being soooo greedy getting double bangers?
SE Asia

Dan Hawaii
01-22-08, 09:05
Hey Dan - Is your silent cruiser hawaiian team enjoying the CP scene to the max? They certainly seem to have been "very preoccupied" most of the time at the K-ok! And who was being soooo greedy getting double bangers?
SE Asia
I'm not one to kiss and tell, hahaha. We are certainly having an awesome time here in CP. But we never got around to the bbs , not even once. Just did not want to get disappointed from close signs and little bro is not complaining. Pretty much hitting the ktv evey single night and if little bro need some loving, we hit the sauna.

Great finally meeting you joe, and HK guys are ok in my book, because without them, CP would not exist.

Playboy2000
01-22-08, 14:18
CPE, Actually, it is a different girl. I actually found a new one, with even better English-speaking skills. The previous one is now working in an office somewhere in Dongguan. RT


I've met her before, good looking and a really sweet girl!

Hey RT,

I thought she said she was only in the "business" to earn some money to go home ;)

-CPE

Manfest
01-22-08, 19:51
What was Ting Ting fixing herself in that picture of yours? Hot water with tons of sugar? :)


This is exactly what I love about Asia. She made me tea, then served it bedside. Then made coffee for herself as she was going out into the cold for more standing around. I was heartless and let her go... :p

Some may remember, though, that I was ready to forgo all action and go to sleep!

Weelock
01-23-08, 03:54
Erik,

A few years ago I posted a link to Chinese website with a copy of the HK Maginzine about Amazon KTV. I think the link is dead but if you are still interested, I will try to find the it for you. Dead links are sometimes "Cached" in googles.com.

Someone else had a dark picture of Jai Yi KTV taken from above. I recall it showed girls standing in rows and columns is a good representation of 300 girls in a line up. Yes, DO NOT take pictures of the line up of the girls. And worst yet, pictures of any other ISG member without their permission. One ISG guy took a picture and posted it, and I can tell there are 2 other ISG members I recognize, HEHEHE.

OWL,

OWL, is the only ISG guy who can handle 4-5 guys and brave enough to do it. So OWL, the next time if you are in big KTV in CP, take some pictures for us.




Dan,
300 hall of girls, my god, I'd really like to see that. Anyone could take a discreet photo and post here her ? That must be an amazing scene !
I never witnessed anything like this, even in Thailand.
Thanks



Yes Erik, there are not just one but quite a few places like that. Some even sports more than 300. A few years back there was a place with atleast 500 on a weekend evening. There are more than a few places with such 300+ lineups. As for the pics here is my take on it.

You could try to pull your digital camera out and flash a few pics. you could find this at quite a few of the ktvs' in the area. some even have more than 300. If you pull a camera out and take a few flash, no fewer than half a dozen guys will converge on you and beat the shit out of you and then ask you why did you take them pics.

A few years ago, a few pics of Amazon ktv hall of gals appear on a local HK magazine and the cops came down on them. not a pretty site. So Erik, be my guest and take a few pics but before doing that ask a senior member that is known to be able to kick half a dozen guys balls in a flash first on how to fend off these security guys that will be coming out of nowhere. Practice on a few dummies and then go and try to take a few digital pics for some of the newbies to see. -cut-

SE Asia Joe
01-23-08, 09:45
CPE, Actually, it is a different girl. I actually found a new one, with even better English-speaking skills. The previous one is now working in an office somewhere in Dongguan. RT
OK RT - you gonna auction off them numbers?
TWO???/ TWO of 'em? How/where did you get them? Guess being a laowai, the english speaking gals will naturally gravitate towards you?
Se Asia

Old Mean Dog
01-24-08, 11:12
Nothing to do with sex, but food which is my second favorite thing in life.

The restaurant called Flavor 1600 is really good. It's Chinese food, no Western on the menu, but which happens to have full color photos and English descriptions. The restaurant is only a few months old and is located below the new Snooker Club just down the road from the Rainbow Dept Store. Just look for the bright yellow sign for the restaurant and a picture of some white guy shooting snooker above it.

Mito Cafe is probably the best place in town for Western fare, others I prefer are The Bistro, Botons (across from Womens World and has many Chinese dishes as well), Happy Together (Food is ok, but they stay open till like 3 am), and a place call Moutons (fancy food like salmon and truffles, with a nice expensive price). The Japanese Teppanyaki and Sushi Aqua are good as well. I have not tried the new pizza joint, Sisel, but my wingman says the pizza sucks ass. If you gotta have pizza, try Wave Pizza, it's delivery only and it's about the best in town (since Godfathers Restaurant closed).

My personal fav, is one Santa and Bill Lee turned me onto, which is the noodle shop (slurp and burp) across from the Lucky Hotel.

There are a couple of hotpot, Korean BBQ and HK restaurants in town with English menus, and of course there are tons of Chinese restaurants, but normally they do not have English menus.

If anyone needs better directions, PM me.

Damn, I'm hungry now,

-CPE

Jim Traveller
01-24-08, 12:11
Oh, shit. I told you not too swear.

But now that I have done that myself, I am resigned to the fact that I just can't shake the CP withdrawal symdrome anytime soon.

George Benard Shaw once wrote: "I do not fight temptations, for things that are not good for me do not tempt me. " Therefore, instead of fighting my tempations, I am satisfying it.

CP, here I come again.

Flying in Sunday Jan 27 and leaving Monday Feb 4, this will be my last CP visit, well, until March. No need to get melodramatic about it, it not like I am going to be away for a year.

Despite the rapidly dewindling talent pool, with the KTV staff departing for the Chinese New Year every day, I am still resolved to make the best of my stay.

Any brother out there for a KTV party? Please PM me.

Jim T.

Wapec
01-24-08, 16:45
Me too and hungry for my first and second favourite things in life :-) Noodle place opposite Lucky is damn good but stay away from Bill's gal.

Wapec


Nothing to do with sex, but food which is my second favorite thing in life.

The restaurant called Flavor 1600 is really good. It's Chinese food, no Western on the menu, but which happens to have full color photos and English descriptions. The restaurant is only a few months old and is located below the new Snooker Club just down the road from the Rainbow Dept Store. Just look for the bright yellow sign for the restaurant and a picture of some white guy shooting snooker above it.

Mito Cafe is probably the best place in town for Western fare, others I prefer are The Bistro, Botons (across from Womens World and has many Chinese dishes as well), Happy Together (Food is ok, but they stay open till like 3 am), and a place call Moutons (fancy food like salmon and truffles, with a nice expensive price). The Japanese Teppanyaki and Sushi Aqua are good as well. I have not tried the new pizza joint, Sisel, but my wingman says the pizza sucks ass. If you gotta have pizza, try Wave Pizza, it's delivery only and it's about the best in town (since Godfathers Restaurant closed).

My personal fav, is one Santa and Bill Lee turned me onto, which is the noodle shop (slurp and burp) across from the Lucky Hotel.

There are a couple of hotpot, Korean BBQ and HK restaurants in town with English menus, and of course there are tons of Chinese restaurants, but normally they do not have English menus.

If anyone needs better directions, PM me.

Damn, I'm hungry now,

-CPE

Cowa Banga
01-25-08, 00:38
Great post regarding the food. Stomach>Dick.

Dan Hawaii
01-25-08, 00:42
OK RT - you gonna auction off them numbers?
TWO???/ TWO of 'em? How/where did you get them? Guess being a laowai, the english speaking gals will naturally gravitate towards you?
Se Asia
I met a girl in Jia Yi KTV, she is going to the university, don't know which one, but she speaks pretty damn good English, like you can carry pretty long converstaions with her. And she is studying to become an interpreter. She says she has been studying English since she was in middle school, so she has been studying English seriously for 6 years.

Her name is Momo, and her cell number is 13612-721676. She's only 17 years old, so be gentle with her. She has been working in the ktv business for only 1 month, so that she can put herself through college. She is pretty tall, maybe 5'7" and is slim. But she only has A cup size.

Have fun.

Cowa Banga
01-25-08, 00:44
Dan,

You might might want to amend your post. Read it again.

Dan Hawaii
01-25-08, 00:49
I met a girl in Jia Yi KTV, she is going to the university, don't know which one, but she speaks pretty damn good English, like you can carry pretty long converstaions with her. And she is studying to become an interpreter. She says she has been studying English since she was in middle school, so she has been studying English seriously for 6 years.

Her name is Momo, and her cell number is 13612-721676. She's only 17 years old, so be gentle with her. She has been working in the ktv business for only 1 month, so that she can put herself through college. She is pretty tall, maybe 5'7" and is slim. But she only has A cup size.

Have fun.
There is this other girl name Sarah. She speaks decent English, but not as well as Momo. But Sarah is hot, she has big breasts and a nice bod. But don't get me wrong, Momo is pretty too. Last I saw her was in Oct 2006, she was or still is working at the Hui Hua KTV. I did not call her, since I was too busy. But here is her number too:

158996-94452

She is 22 or 21 years old. She's pretty fun and has a hotter bod than Momo, just my opinion. But for real, Momo is pretty too. I was tempted to pick her, but if she did not speak English, I would have passed, because she did not have a rack.

OldAsiaHand
01-25-08, 03:58
she's only 17 years old, so be gentle with her.


dan hawaii:

you can get banned for posting about ****d girls on the forum.

sorry, i am going to miss you this trip. i won't be able to get back to cp until after cny.

have fun!

oah

Old Mean Dog
01-25-08, 05:53
I met a girl in Jia Yi KTV, she is going to the university, don't know which one, but she speaks pretty damn good English, like you can carry pretty long converstaions with her. And she is studying to become an interpreter. She says she has been studying English since she was in middle school, so she has been studying English seriously for 6 years.

I see some big fish has taken the bait, hook, line and sinker.

University student? Nearest Univ is in Dongguan City (45 mins away), how would she find time to study and go to class in the day and be a "hostess" at night?

English Major? If she has been studying English that long, then her conversations need to be better than "pretty long".

Chang Ping? Not a lot of high paying professional business jobs here! Why not SZ or GZ which for a KTV girl pays a helluva lot more?

KTV? She strives to be a professional interpreter and is working in a KTV for her internship?

Come on Dan, if you go over to one of the English training centers here in CP, you will probably see her sitting in the classroom.

-CPE

BTW: Others Will Laugh if you fall for this!

Superforce99
01-25-08, 10:47
Hey Dan,

Great to see you're a generous guy and sharing the mobile numbers of some nice girls with everyone...but I'm sure you're going to regret it (from my own experiences)...these girls are going to be FLOODED with calls from well-meaning guys (not necessarily a good thing from the gals' perspective), not to mention the assorted weirdos, losers, and freaks who troll this board...

Better for everyone involved if you shared the girl's descriptions in public and their mobile numbers via PM.


J


PS. Ha ha...that guy who you thought was me the first time you saw "me" was Raz...

Erik
01-25-08, 21:05
I eventually made it to Changping for the first time. Ashame I chose the worst time to go. Why didn't I go sooner ??? The weather was so cold that some girls would chose to stay at home rather than working, my room in Yalan was cold, and police chasing girls and mamasan on top of that... Yet I loved what I saw : My first was in a momy's shop in front of Yalan : a real sweet beauty, smily, happy and keen, fabulous body, a Dai ethnic girl from Dali, Yunnan, total GF, 200 Y ! Next day I had this chubby girl from a momy's shop behind Huimei, total waste, useless girl, very smelly pussy, I could not do it or I would have thrown up on her, had to send her back with half the money promised. Then I had another cuty from the Yalan area, not a great success though. Then I had to try the famous Jiayi, and I had soon 5 girls hanging to my arms all the time I was walking the room, with mimies putting my hands on their boobs. After all these years mongering in China I never thought I would see Chinese girls with such a sexy approach, smiling (difficult for a Chinese), willing to flash their body assets, boasting their sexual skills without any shyness! My god, they've turned Chinese girls into Thais ! I took out a nicely breasted cuty for 500 Y + a 42 Y minimal bar fee, on the way back, the Jiayi car service tryed to charge a appalling 20 Y, so I took a car a bit further for 15 Y, and the taxi driver put on a porn video so my girl and I could view it. While he was tuning the movie, he kept saying : this is a good video, look at this scene... obviously it turned it on to have his customers enjoying porn in his car. My girl, not ashamed at all, was laughing her head off ! Back in my room, she was worth every fen : complete GF attitude, BBBJ, endless kissing, she would have stayed the whole night if I had wanted... Next day I had the same deal with Huimei, another unforgettable GF experience.
I would have loved to stay more in this city, especially I did not find yet the night market nor the catacombs, and did not see any BBS, even closed. But the general mood of the city was not very encouraging, and in Chinese cities it is very easy to get bored when you don't have something to do or watch around. So I left for warmer skies accross the sea.
Hope to be back if ever the situation comes back to "normal".

Bnlee2
01-25-08, 21:31
Then I had to try the famous Jiayi, and I had soon 5 girls hanging to my arms all the time I was walking the room, with mimies putting my hands on their boobs. After all these years mongering in China I never thought I would see Chinese girls with such a sexy approach, smiling (difficult for a Chinese), willing to flash their body assets, boasting their sexual skills without any shyness! My god, they've turned Chinese girls into Thais ! I took out a nicely breasted cuty for 500 Y + a 42 Y minimal bar fee, on the way back, the Jiayi car service tryed to charge a appalling 20 Y, so I took a car a bit further for 15 Y, and the taxi driver put on a porn video so my girl and I could view it. While he was tuning the movie, he kept saying : this is a good video, look at this scene... obviously it turned it on to have his customers enjoying porn in his car. My girl, not ashamed at all, was laughing her head off ! Back in my room, she was worth every fen : complete GF attitude, BBBJ, endless kissing, she would have stayed the whole night if I had wanted... Next day I had the same deal with Huimei, another unforgettable GF experience.
I would have loved to stay more in this city, especially I did not find yet the night market nor the catacombs, and did not see any BBS, even closed. But the general mood of the city was not very encouraging, and in Chinese cities it is very easy to get bored when you don't have something to do or watch around. So I left for warmer skies accross the sea.
Hope to be back if ever the situation comes back to "normal".

OH yeah... JiaYi puts the old Mustang Ranch and few other brothel in Nevada to shame.. no comparison.

Hog Head
01-26-08, 01:02
Greetings,

This is probably the wrong forum to ask and regret I do not have any informitive
inputs to share, yet. I am moving from USA to DongG.

Hog Head
01-26-08, 01:13
Greetings,

This is probably the wrong forum to ask and regret I do not have any informitive inputs to share, yet. I am moving from USA to DongGuan later this month and will be looking for a nice clean, safe and conveniently located apartment in the area. Does anyone know of expat oriented complex's suitable for long term living? The town location is not critical as I will be working mostly from my apartment. Actually I would rather have a single family home with some type of yard if those exist as my stay maybe up to 5 years. My arrival date will be March 20th and hope to be able to contribute to this forum early and often. Thanks in advance for any thought anyone can provide.

Hog Head (aka Razorback)

Dan Hawaii
01-26-08, 04:15
Sorry I posted that, I did not know. It seems the "edit" option is not available now. How can I edit or delete the post?

Furthermore, I did not have sex with her or wrote that I or anyone in the world had sex with her. I just stated she works at JY ktv and I just reitterated what she told me about her ambitions and how she can speak english so well (for cp standards). I actually went home alone that night, it is hard to believe but it is the truth, I swear to God.

I may be out of line posting their phone numbers, but I thought it could be favorable for networking their ability to speak English.

If I could edit the post, I would delete them, as I do not want to have tension on the board and/or seem like a dick.

As for believing these girls or not, it's up to you, take it with a grain of salt. I did not say I believed her or not, just reporting what she told me.

Old Mean Dog
01-26-08, 05:04
Sorry I posted that, I did not know. It seems the "edit" option is not available now. How can I edit or delete the post?

Furthermore, I did not have sex with her or wrote that I or anyone in the world had sex with her. I just stated she works at JY ktv and I just reitterated what she told me about her ambitions and how she can speak english so well (for cp standards). I actually went home alone that night, it is hard to believe but it is the truth, I swear to God.

I may be out of line posting their phone numbers, but I thought it could be favorable for networking their ability to speak English.

If I could edit the post, I would delete them, as I do not want to have tension on the board and/or seem like a dick.

As for believing these girls or not, it's up to you, take it with a grain of salt. I did not say I believed her or not, just reporting what she told me.

Dan,

Don't worry about it bro, 99.9% do it. Be wise on the digits. Some think they are Knights in Shining Armor coming to save the damsel in distress, but these are the same guys who do the same shit we do....

I have free time so, I will call her up and see if she is in need of some private English tutoring.

Posting phone #'s? Well, she gave it to you because she liked you enough to give it, but unless you asked her if she minds your buddies calling her, I would not post it here. Thousands of people read ISG and if she suddenly starts getting 20-30 calls a day well, besides her burning through phone cards to recharge her phone, she might start getting a little freaked out.

My PoV,

-CPE

Weelock
01-26-08, 06:13
Sorry I posted that, I did not know. It seems the "edit" option is not available now. How can I edit or delete the post?
=cut-


I believe you can edit or delete a post after 24hrs by sending a note to a moderator. It is located on the left of the webpage called, "Report this Post to a Moderator". Jackson doesn't have time to edit each request. Someone else does it for him, a moderator.

I know it's a little late now, next time, IMHO, suggesting asking her frist before posting her number. I know one girl requested to post her number because she wanted more business from foreigners.

Erik
01-26-08, 14:29
Another thng that bothered me while in Changping, I tryied three different internet cafes (although no coffee there...) and had extreme difficulties to access our forum. By clicking douzen of times, the filter eventually let me open one page every now and then, but I was basically not able to read the useful info I need ded about Dongguan.

Also, I am not fond of cantonese food, too mild and sweet for my taste. And, strangely, if girls or hotel prices are comparable to the rest of China, eating in Guangdong is much more expensive than everywhere else. Taxi fares in Changping are also way above the national average.

Old Mean Dog
01-26-08, 17:54
Another thng that bothered me while in Changping, I tryied three different internet cafes (although no coffee there...) and had extreme difficulties to access our forum. By clicking douzen of times, the filter eventually let me open one page every now and then, but I was basically not able to read the useful info I need ded about Dongguan.

Also, I am not fond of cantonese food, too mild and sweet for my taste. And, strangely, if girls or hotel prices are comparable to the rest of China, eating in Guangdong is much more expensive than everywhere else. Taxi fares in Changping are also way above the national average.

Sounds like you had a wonderful time in our neck of the woods! Yes, ISG is blocked in the internet bars, along with dozens of other sites that I can access from my apartment, just 5 mins by taxi from the Miraton.

Tons of "other" restaurants here (Hunan outnumbers Guangdong style). Not that I am a big jetsetter in China, but prices here are better than other places I have been for girls, hotels and food.

BTW: A taxi in an "authorized" yellow/green or blue taxi starts at 6 to 7 rmb. Thats a helluva lot cheaper than say SZ which starts at 12.50 rmb

-CPE

Weelock
01-27-08, 10:27
Found this on another website. Uumm, donít know if there is a problem ( a rule ) about posting links to other websites. Eighty-eight girls arrested in CP. Donít know the details since I donít read Chinese. I think last year or the year before they even closed down some of the KTVís and saunas in CP around Jan/Dec.

http://www.sun0769.com/news/town/t20080123_323883.shtml
http://www.sun0769.com/news/town/t20080123_323883_1.shtml
http://www.sun0769.com/news/town/t20080123_323883_2.shtml
http://www.sun0769.com/news/town/t20080123_323883_3.shtml

I recognize a few of the places. Itís $500 fine for the girls and I think $1000 for the momes and something for the owner too. For Johns, a possible stamp on their passports and being kicked out, deported, unlikely but possible.

Basher55
01-27-08, 12:55
Another thng that bothered me while in Changping, I tryied three different internet cafes (although no coffee there...) and had extreme difficulties to access our forum. By clicking douzen of times, the filter eventually let me open one page every now and then, but I was basically not able to read the useful info I need ded about Dongguan.

Also, I am not fond of cantonese food, too mild and sweet for my taste. And, strangely, if girls or hotel prices are comparable to the rest of China, eating in Guangdong is much more expensive than everywhere else. Taxi fares in Changping are also way above the national average.I found the price and the taste (mild and sweet) quite to my liking in guangdoung, if you know what I mean

I find the hot pot also to my likeing, mite even have a go at the spicy hotpot if get the chance!

Old Mean Dog
01-27-08, 15:18
Found this on another website. Uumm, donít know if there is a problem ( a rule ) about posting links to other websites. Eighty-eight girls arrested in CP. Donít know the details since I donít read Chinese. I think last year or the year before they even closed down some of the KTVís and saunas in CP.

http://www.sun0769.com/news/town/t20080123_323883.shtml
http://www.sun0769.com/news/town/t20080123_323883_1.shtml
http://www.sun0769.com/news/town/t20080123_323883_2.shtml
http://www.sun0769.com/news/town/t20080123_323883_3.shtml

I recognize a few of the places. Itís $500 fine for the girls and I think $1000 for the momes and something for the owner too. For Johns, a possible stamp on their passports and being kicked out, deported, unlikely but possible.

One looks like a shop behind the Hui Mei, the other is a small hotel kind of behind the Lucky and down the road some. Santa, its the hotel near where we get our hair cut.

-CPE

Wapec
01-27-08, 16:42
CP was invaded by the Hongky crowd this weekend and the depression only got into a deeper funk.

Baby's has remained shut. The Banyan tree trio is shuttered. LE has had its wicked way more than the mongers have. Plus the cold/CNY theme has chased the rest away.

Night market had some but slim pickings. Not inspiring seeing gals freezing their butts off around a coke briquette bucket fire.

This is one step away from being a ghost town!
-------------------------

Separate note found out that a certain nameless Senior Member (known going forward as the Phantom) has done every numbers game from 19 to 91 including a couple of permutations around 69. A very very sad and desolate event. It could take years to recover from the mental anguish and traumatic psychological pain.

Wapec

Bill Lee
01-27-08, 22:38
Great stuff Weelock. Here's Google's translation of the headline and storylines.

Let's see if the Google translated page link will work here?
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sun0769.com%2Fnews%2Ftown%2Ft20080123_323883.shtml&langpair=zh%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8




http://www.sun0769.com/news/town/t20080123_323883.shtml
Chang Ping "antipornography" arrested 88 suspects suspected of prostitution

page 1
In order to safeguard social stability of the overall situation of law and order last night, and often-public security sub-bureau launched a large-scale inventory, focus on cracking down on all kinds of "Shehuang" criminal activities, actions carried out one week ago, has dealt a heavy blow to the arrogance of criminals.

http://www.sun0769.com/news/town/t20080123_323883_1.shtml
Page 2
In action last night, the Public Security Bureau Chang Ping security police patrol unit dispatched more than 120 people on the town centre of the entertainment district and the inventory. During the operation, the public security officers on the street near Chaoyang focus on the site carpet inventory, arrested for prostitution at the illegal 59 people, seal hair salon 10.

http://www.sun0769.com/news/town/t20080123_323883_2.shtml
Page 3
It is understood that the early-year-old did not, criminals of various types stirring often-Public Security Bureau in accordance with the PUC against Shehuang work instructions, clandestine reconnaissance and open to a combination of inventory, launched a large-scale inventory operations.

http://www.sun0769.com/news/town/t20080123_323883_3.shtml
Page 4
According to statistics, since the action in one week, the public security officers checked 662 rented rooms, hair salon 73, and seized five Shehuang cases, the officers arrested 88 people suspected of violating the law, of which 12 were detained by the police, seal hair salon 18, and effectively deterred She Huang of criminal offenders, dealt a blow to the arrogance of criminals


I was wondering where the "inventory" went this week. How lucky can these "88 people" and "seal hair salon 18" really be?

Can someone explain what a "Shehuang" is? Is it a service provider who's really well "huang"? Like a oversized clitoris from a girl with a boyish look? Satan, eh, I mean Santa, what's your take on the "Shehuang"?

Bill

Wapec, I think you meant, from 16 to 91 - hehehehehe

Bill Lee
01-27-08, 22:52
Sounds like you had a wonderful time in our neck of the woods! Yes, ISG is blocked in the internet bars, along with dozens of other sites that I can access from my apartment, just 5 mins by taxi from the Miraton.

BTW: A taxi in an "authorized" yellow/green or blue taxi starts at 6 to 7 rmb. Thats a helluva lot cheaper than say SZ which starts at 12.50 rmb

-CPE

The ISG board can still be accessed in better hotels like the Lucky (hehehe).

Interesting footnote about the taxi, after 11 p.m., the yellow cabs and blue cabs starts their meter at 7.20 (?) and 8.40 rmb, respectively.

But I still can't figure why we are charged on that 1 extra rmb by some cabs and not by others. Must be that "1rmb extra" written all over our foreheads.

BTW CPexpat (formerly The SkirtChaser -hahaha). Thanks for inviting all the ISG mongers to your apartment to use the Internet.

Bill

Bill Lee
01-28-08, 04:24
One looks like a shop behind the Hui Mei, the other is a small hotel kind of behind the Lucky and down the road some. Santa, its the hotel near where we get our hair cut.

-CPE

These were the girls being escorted out of Santa's room.

Bill

Bnlee2
01-28-08, 04:46
These were the girls being escorted out of Santa's room.

Bill

Hey,

These girls are not smiling. Santa must have told them that there will be no red envelope for them during CNY for being NAUGHTY. awwww

Santa, please reconsider. They promise never to spit on your carpet or any other carpet for the upcoming year.

SE Asia Joe
01-28-08, 08:18
CP, here I come again.

Flying in Sunday Jan 27 and leaving Monday Feb 4,
Despite the rapidly dewindling talent pool, with the KTV staff departing for the Chinese New Year every day, I am still resolved to make the best of my stay.

Any brother out there for a KTV party? Please PM me.

Jim T.
Am telling ya - the talent pool is REALLY lousy! At least it was past week-end with all this LE action and the cold weather. But perhaps the KTV's are still gonna be alright as the LE's seems to have only concentrated on the BBS's. (Hmmmm... is CP gonna be like other China destinations where one is sort of forced to partake of the hobby only at high priced establishments?)
But...as we all know, you're a KTV guy after all - so here I come!!
On the other hand, just about ALL of the KTV gals I contacted past week-end had also flown the coop and gone home (sad sad me!!)
SE Asia Joe

Weelock
01-28-08, 08:31
Oh, shit. I told you not too swear.
-cut-
Flying in Sunday Jan 27 and leaving Monday Feb 4, this will be my last CP visit, well, until March. No need to get melodramatic about it, it not like I am going to be away for a year.

Despite the rapidly dewindling talent pool, with the KTV staff departing for the Chinese New Year every day, I am still resolved to make the best of my stay.

Any brother out there for a KTV party? Please PM me.

Jim T.

Holy Shit, don't be suprised if some KTV's and sanuas are closed too. It has happened last year or the year before around Dec/Jan.

Slaveowner
01-28-08, 08:53
Hi guys,

Thanks for all the great reports. I'll be visiting Guangzhou, Dongguan, Shenzhen, and Zhuhai for vacation from 2/16 to 2/23. I'm a complete newb at mongering. Because I'm only gonna be around for about a week and at most a day or two in any particular city, I don't have much time to explore. I'm basically looking for hassel free fuck. Anyone got any reliable places?

I'm open to sauna places, massage places, and maybe even bbs. Thanks.

P.S. I know pickings will be a little slim since it's not too long after CNY. How bad do you guys think it will be? Oh and btw I'm Chinese-American and can speak Mandarin.

Wapec
01-28-08, 14:26
Bill (er Phantom or is he ?)

Er what you did 16 !!!! Bastard, toad laying, swine gurgling, imperialistic yadayadayada. How could you ! Was she tight ?

Jim Traveller & Weelock

Shit, shite, dung, crap, dump, fertilizer, swamp [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) etc

Santa

Bill is right they do like the gals that were led away from your room by the LE. Did you remember to give them a get outta jail card when you were teaching them to play the monopoly game ? Being a language exchange student is a high risk profession.

Wapec

Freepeaks
01-28-08, 19:08
Big thanks out to Jim Traveller, Asia Joe, Wadman and everyone else that made the CP experience fun. Great to meet everyone. Too bad I had to work through the Amazon KTV day. Hope to catch you all next time around.

FYI information back - the internet at the HuiHua is good enough to stream video though often drops connection from 500k to 200k to 20k for a few minutes then goes back up.

Internet wireless still in lobby.

Spa is worth a shot though only 5-6s there, they make the extra effort (thanks wadman for the hookup)

Freepeaks
01-28-08, 19:15
FYI, ISG did not work at Hui Hua.

SE Asia Joe
01-29-08, 04:13
Holy Shit, don't be suprised if some KTV's and sanuas are closed too. It has happened last year or the year before around Dec/Jan.
So..... what did you end up doing?
SE Asia Joe

SE Asia Joe
01-29-08, 05:20
Interesting footnote about the taxi, after 11 p.m., the yellow cabs and blue cabs starts their meter at 7.20 (?) and 8.40 rmb, respectively.

But I still can't figure why we are charged on that 1 extra rmb by some cabs and not by others. Must be that "1rmb extra" written all over our foreheads.


Bill
As I understand it, the extra RMB 1 Charge was initiated a few months back in response to the rise in oil prices and is chargeable to everybody. The times you didn't get charged I believe you just got lucky and the cabbie forgot to charge you.
And the taxis rates does specify a premium for late night pick-ups - I believe after midnight and not 11 PM as you mentioned.
And although the rate is not the same in SZ and GZ, I believe that the above 'rules' are also in effect there.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on the above - as I really hate getting ripped off by these taxis.
SE Asia Joe

Tulip777
01-29-08, 05:21
Hi everyone. I was told to give CP a miss during CNY. But that Chinese visa is burning a hole in my pocket. Does it make sense for me to arrive Feb 9 for few nights or is it totally dead? If it's 70% back to normal then OK, if it's more like 10-20% with LE on every corner then it's different. I treat ladies nice, don't overpay and keep a low profile. What do you think?

Wadman
01-29-08, 06:00
FYI, ISG did not work at Hui Hua.

Uuuh.. it works for me, and I am posting this from the HuiHua. Maybe different for different rooms/floors, who knows...

But if you cannot access ISG from the HuiHua or an internet bar, use a proxy server. www.ciaproxy.com currently works.

Weelock
01-29-08, 07:20
Hi everyone. I was told to give CP a miss during CNY. But that Chinese visa is burning a hole in my pocket. Does it make sense for me to arrive Feb 9 for few nights or is it totally dead? If it's 70% back to normal then OK, if it's more like 10-20% with LE on every corner then it's different. I treat ladies nice, don't overpay and keep a low profile. What do you think?

They changed the requirements for visa stays. If you are from the USA, your $100 visa now is good for 1 year mult entries. If you are NOT from the USA, I don't believe the visa is burning a hole because most other visa are cheaper than the USA.

Chinese New Year is on the 7th and you are coming on the 9th, real bad timing. IMHO, "Just come back some other time". Most places in Southern China, like CP and Shenzhen have been raid recently and places shutdown. I don't think anybody knows what LE going to do the next day or next week, unless you know people in high places like "One Wing Low". What LE is going do during the Olympics is anybody's guess too. Mongering in China for 2008 is going to be bad until the Olympics ends. Sorry, it's probably not what you want to hear.

=======================================================

Dear Santa:

Since I never got anything for X-Mas. A nice big red envelope
(Cantonese: lai shi or lai see) ( 利是, 利市 ), (Mandarin: 'hůng bāo' (紅包 ), would be nice for CNY. I will bring some nice Chinese girl to sit on your lap in Dec 2008. Hope you're having fun living at the Lucky North Pole.

Tulip777
01-29-08, 09:57
They changed the requirements for visa stays. If you are from the USA, your $100 visa now is good for 1 year mult entries. If you are NOT from the USA, I don't believe the visa is burning a hole because most other visa are cheaper than the USA.

Chinese New Year is on the 7th and you are coming on the 9th, real bad timing. IMHO, just come back some other time. Most places in Southern China, like CP and Shenzhen have been raid recently and places shutdown. I don't think anybody knows what LE going to do the next day or next week, unless you know people in high places like "One Wing Low". What LE is going do during the Olympics is anybody's guess. Mongering in China for 2008 is going to be bad until the Olympics ends. Sorry, it's probably not what you want to hear.

=======================================================

Dear Santa:

Since I never got anything for X-Mas. A nice big red envelope
(Cantonese: lai shi or lai see) ( 利是, 利市 ), (Mandarin: 'hůng bāo' (紅包 ), would be nice for CNY. I will bring some nice Chinese girl to sit on your lap in Dec 2008. Hope you having fun living at the Lucky North Pole.


Thanks Weelock. That answers all of my questions.

Hainanien
01-29-08, 11:54
Not sure about saunas or the next weeks but.

I was in Shekou the past week & all the bbs's in old Shekou, (Shenzhen) as well as the chicken bars seemed at normal capacity.

Was in others smaller cities & saw plenty open shops too.

I wonder if the crackdown is concentrated more visable city centers & in areas popular with HKers?

Old Mean Dog
01-29-08, 12:02
Holy Shit, don't be suprised if some KTV's and sanuas are closed too. It has happened last year or the year before around Dec/Jan.

What part of CP were you in? I was smack dab downtown last year for 3 days, most everything was open. Hell, even the BBS's had enough girls in them to enjoy myself! This is also the time I did the famous Lucky Lineup were I had 10 girls in the lobby and later a 6 girl lineup on my floor.

Granted, there was not the same amount as there used to be, but I latched on two to great ones and one was a real stunner.

I'm gonna break my own rules and post the photos of the two girls I was with last CNY.

-CPE

Old Mean Dog
01-29-08, 12:11
They changed the requirements for visa stays. If you are from the USA, your $100 visa now is good for 1 year mult entries. If you are NOT from the USA, I don't believe the visa is burning a hole because most other visa are cheaper than the USA.

Chinese New Year is on the 7th and you are coming on the 9th, real bad timing. IMHO, "Just come back some other time". Most places in Southern China, like CP and Shenzhen have been raid recently and places shutdown. I don't think anybody knows what LE going to do the next day or next week, unless you know people in high places like "One Wing Low". What LE is going do during the Olympics is anybody's guess too. Mongering in China for 2008 is going to be bad until the Olympics ends. Sorry, it's probably not what you want to hear.


If you are an American and trying to process your visa in HK, the $100 rule only applies to the Chinese Government Office on the island. If you go to an agent, prepare to pay approx. 1200 HK dollars for 6 months and 1950 HK dollars for 1 year.

It is much easier and better value for money to do it in the USA.

-CPE

Bill Lee
01-29-08, 12:21
The mommies, all six of them, outnumbered the girls on the second floor.

Bill

Santa
01-29-08, 13:58
The numbers over the weekend was bad and the selection was poor. But I figured it would improve on monday when the HK guys would no longer be here. Wrong!

No, they don't have cops on every corner, and there are still mommies and girls workng, but the number of girls is way way down. Of course, supply and demand being what it is, some girls are now demanding an extra hundred.

Went to the HuiMei alley. Only 2 shops open and they only had 3 girls each. What the hell, I took one anyway.

In my room she refused to shower together. Then she refused to let me see her naked! What the fuck. Ok, I turned all the lights off and got her into bed. She gave the blowjob as agreed, but it only lasted for 30 seconds. She refused to continue. Ok, so I put the condom on and then she refused to get on top. Finally, I got pissed off, I gave up and got dressed.

Paid her half the amount and she slammed the door on the way out.

She seemed to be friendly and nice, but just couldn't perform.

The weather is cold. Last night, according to the BBC News, 50,000 people were stranded at the Guangzhou train station.

Happy New Year!

Santa
01-29-08, 14:06
After the crackdown and eighty girls being arrested, photographed and fined, many of the girls decided to get the fuck out of Dodge. Time to hit the trail!

Weelock
01-29-08, 14:39
What part of CP were you in? I was smack dab downtown last year for 3 days, most everything was open. Hell, even the BBS's had enough girls in them to enjoy myself! This is also the time I did the famous Lucky Lineup were I had 10 girls in the lobby and later a 6 girl lineup on my floor.

Granted, there was not the same amount as there used to be, but I latched on two to great ones and one was a real stunner.

I'm gonna break my own rules and post the photos of the two girls I was with last CNY.

-CPE

I never stick around during or before CNY. What I read was a few of the KTV and saunas in CP were closed from this forum or another forum. The excuses were remodeling for most. It was last year or the year before when it happened. Don't recall exactly which year.

Most businesses are closed and give their workers the day off or a few days off. For example, I believe banks are closed on the 7th of Feb. A few of my friends are off 3-5 days.

Anyway, IMHO, it's a bad time to go mongering in China just before and during CNY. It's because of less girls, more LE, colder weather, higher transportion cost and hotel cost. Oh, I almost forgot, a big red envelope especially if you are married. Most other members would agree it's not a good time to go.



After the crackdown and eighty girls being arrested, photographed and fined, many of the girls decided to get the fuck out of Dodge. Time to hit the trail!



The weather is cold. Last night, according to the BBC News, 50,000 people were stranded at the Guangzhou train station.


The people are stuck until the weather gets better in China. It's the largest yearly mirgation in the world.

Subaculture
01-29-08, 15:44
Anyway, IMHO, it's a bad time to go mongering in China just before and during CNY. It's because of less girls, more LE, colder weather, higher transportion cost and hotel cost. Oh, I almost forgot, a big red envelope especially if you are married. Most other members would agree it's not a good time to go. .

Agreed, while the October Golden Week is OK (although getting a train ticket is hard), there was no noticeable drop in girls...but CNY is different. Many will have gone home to their home towns, villages and families rather than leaving pernamently. I suppose, we will only know after CNY ends!!! I doubt there will be many HK visitors until then. I read recently, golden weeks end after this year and they are introducing a number of 4 days (long weekend holidays) to spread out spending and end the pressure on transport.

SC

Santa
01-29-08, 17:01
she refused to shower together. Then she refused to let me see her naked! What the fuck. Ok, I turned all the lights off and got her into bed. She gave the blowjob as agreed, but it only lasted for 30 seconds. She refused to continue. Ok, so I put the condom on and then she refused to get on top. Finally, I got pissed off, I gave up and got dressed.

Happy New Year!

I forgot to mention that she also wouldn't play with my new sex toy, a vibrating tickler. I guess I'll have to use it on myself.

Manfest
01-29-08, 17:27
--cut--
Then she refused to let me see her naked! What the fuck. Ok, I turned all the lights off and got her into bed.
--cut--


Careful, my friend. You are quite knowledgeable about these things, but I'll add my two cents. From my experience, the only ones that don't want the lights on are either shy or have a rash! Unless you got a virgin, many of these girls tend not to be so shy...

Old Mean Dog
01-29-08, 18:08
I forgot to mention that she also wouldn't play with my new sex toy, a vibrating tickler. I guess I'll have to use it on myself.

I will probably have nightmares for the rest of my life, thinking of Santa playing with a 12" rubber cock.

-CPE

Old Mean Dog
01-29-08, 18:15
The weather is cold. Last night, according to the BBC News, 50,000 people were stranded at the Guangzhou train station.

Happy New Year!

I saw a news report that said it was 500,000 a few days ago and is now down to 200,000 since many have called it quits and got a refund. The whole train/bus station here in CP was blocked all up today and waves of people, with luggage, walking down the street, cops everywhere.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20080129/D8UFJ4O81.html

-CPE

Santa
01-29-08, 21:24
I forgot to mention that she also wouldn't play with my new sex toy, a vibrating tickler. I guess I'll have to use it on myself.

When she wouldn't use the toy dildo I telephoned Bill for advice. "Hey Bill, she showered without me, will not let me see her naked and she will not use the new dildo, what should I do?"

Bill answered, "why are you asking me you moron! What do you think I am, the goddam ISG *****master? Show her how to use it, turn it on and stick it up your arse!"

That's all I needed, helpful advice from a fucking wiseguy!

Freepeaks
01-29-08, 21:38
Huihua,

I was on the 27th floor and couldn't access. A 'business' room but my locale in xp was set to USA so that may be another way they block. Thanks for the link to the cia proxy site.

3/4 girls from KTV last week were headed out of town so I suspect it isn't going to be good. The stranded ones probably will have shit attitudes for not being able to go home.

Happy hunting.

SE Asia Joe
01-30-08, 06:58
hey cp - wat's the situation with the shenzhen train station and the hi-speed crh (sz-dgg-gz) trains? last saturday i had to wait at least an hour before i could get on one. on top of that, the whole of luohu was like a battlefield with large swathes cordoned off, soldiers marching up and down, people screaming and fighting and crowded like crazy, forcing me to zig zag and go up and down before i could even get to the crh ticket counter.

the direct hkg-dg-gz train did not seem to be badly affected last sunday when i got back, but am wondering if thing's changed as the train lines further north remains a chaos and may have affected this direct rail service (trains being diverted for domestic use instead). anybody knows?

se asia

ps. hey guys - here's your chance to get easi(er) freebies! just go around to the nearest train/bus station and offer "a nice warm bed, good food - just come with me!!"

Old Mean Dog
01-30-08, 09:50
hey cp - wat's the situation with the shenzhen train station and the hi-speed crh (sz-dgg-gz) trains? last saturday i had to wait at least an hour before i could get on one. on top of that, the whole of luohu was like a battlefield with large swathes cordoned off, soldiers marching up and down, people screaming and fighting and crowded like crazy, forcing me to zig zag and go up and down before i could even get to the crh ticket counter.

the direct hkg-dg-gz train did not seem to be badly affected last sunday when i got back, but am wondering if thing's changed as the train lines further north remains a chaos and may have affected this direct rail service (trains being diverted for domestic use instead). anybody knows?

se asia

ps. hey guys - here's your chance to get easi(er) freebies! just go around to the nearest train/bus station and offer "a nice warm bed, good food - just come with me!!"


the sz-dg-gz trains are fine, seems to be about the same amount on board as usual. the only real problems are the massive amounts of people in the sz and gz train stations and the vehicle traffic in and around them.

-cpe

btw: i was down around the hui mei area 2 nights ago (about 8-9 pm) and not a single mommy was out, granted it was a monday, but there used to be a few standing around every night in the past.

Bill Lee
01-30-08, 13:51
When she wouldn't use the toy dildo I telephoned Bill for advice. "Hey Bill, she showered without me, will not let me see her naked and she will not use the new dildo, what should I do?"

Bill answered, "why are you asking me you moron! What do you think I am, the goddam ISG *****master? Show her how to use it, turn it on and stick it up your arse!"

That's all I needed, helpful advice from a fucking wiseguy!

What really happened.
Santa's first frantic PM: "Bought a vibrator but she says no Fucking way."
Bill's frantic reply: "Show her how it slide so easily into your ass. then they fall for it."

Santa's second frantic PM:
"Now she showers without me. Bath door locked."
Bill's frantic reply: "now you can use the vibrator in peace."

Bill, the helpful fucking wiseguy

Santa
01-30-08, 16:50
Well, those text messages Bill just posted came before the phonecall.

Anyway, took another gal to my room and the first thing she saw was my electric dildo on the table.

"What's that?" "Oh, that's a toy". Then I turned it on and tried to show her how it works. No fucking way is she using that! "Get that nasty thing away from me!" Said she was leaving, so I had to turn it off and put it away.

She told me I was her first foreigner, she was worried because she heard we have giant cocks and can fuck for three hours. I lasted about three minutes! Now she knows better.

Then she said, "wow, you are really good!" She only said that because it was easy money. Hey, anything beats factory work.

DayNight
01-31-08, 02:29
If you have a toy, always say it's new and you just bought it and she is the first one to use it.

They really worry about other girls pussy bacteria.

Old Mean Dog
01-31-08, 05:12
If you have a toy, always say it's new and you just bought it and she is the first one to use it.

They really worry about other girls pussy bacteria.

Think about how the girl feels when she sees Jolly Old Saint Nick, buck naked on the bed, giving this girl a demonstration about how to use a a 12" rubber cock!

-CPE

Bnlee2
01-31-08, 05:39
Santa.

Why is everyone so uptight over toys. It is only natural that Santa brings toys to everyone. All he is doing is showing some new pleasure toys.

btw. please do not bring me a toy cock. just cash will be fine under the tree for this year. My family jewels is working just fine.

Harmsuploe
01-31-08, 11:42
Driving back to GZ from Shenzhen with some friends, one of them tells me I have to try this sauna in Changan. If we go as a group the room fee is only 68 (178 solo). Whatever, I bite. There's a website if you need directions www.dggd.com.cn .... it's sparse but it has a map.

Anyway, this is one of those enormous KTV sauna compounds with the sauna in the back. The rooms were nicely appointed, DG sauna standards. I was skeptical, at first because it's almost new year and that means limited selection, but it turns out I was wrong. They were easily able to show me 30+, and I had no trouble picking a half dozen from the group. Price structure is 400, 500, 600. As usual, no real difference except for height, the taller they are the more you pay. Also, they come in different uniforms: nurse, schoolgirl, flight attendant, office girl and carshow girl.

Anyway, what followed was DG ISO service. Shower. Clock (90 min) starts after the shower, etc. Also, it was nice that when I left they gave me a coupon for free room fee next time.

I was told that, evidently, Changan has a lot of sauna goodies to sample.

Wapec
01-31-08, 15:20
Santa

3 mins ? That's 2 min 30 secs longer than me !!! Wonder if I am doing something wrong ? You stick it in did you say ? Where ? For what ?

CPE

12" when I got dragged along to do translating Santa was eying 14" to 16" monsters. If a gal finished one of those she'd be walking side saddle for a week. No ?

Wapec


Well, those text messages Bill just posted came before the phonecall.

Anyway, took another gal to my room and the first thing she saw was my electric dildo on the table.

"What's that?" "Oh, that's a toy". Then I turned it on and tried to show her how it works. No fucking way is she using that! "Get that nasty thing away from me!" Said she was leaving, so I had to turn it off and put it away.

She told me I was her first foreigner, she was worried because she heard we have giant cocks and can fuck for three hours. I lasted about three minutes! Now she knows better.

Then she said, "wow, you are really good!" She only said that because it was easy money. Hey, anything beats factory work.

RonJeremy101
02-01-08, 12:34
I will be in HK, Shenzhen, Dongguan, Zhu Hai and Guangzhou for the month of Feb and early March. Anyone interesting in hooking up for some mongering in those cities, please PM me. I am quite familiar with the cities except never explore Zhu Hai before.

Ron

SE Asia Joe
02-04-08, 09:09
The good news in CP is that there seems to be already a new "crop" of talent already available now. Don't know if it's the weather keeping workers in Guang dong province or ...??? But past week-end, a banyan tree mommy insisted that I try a brand new recruit who was an ex-factory worker - and even though she ain't the pick of the barrel look-wise, the prospect of really young flesh and fairly fresh stock got the better of me.

Well.... it was NOT a bad decision; she was so new that she really didn't know what is and what is not S.O.P. in her new line of business.... and of course (me BAD) I just had to instruct her but also told her to do things that I know damn good and well is NOT usually on offfer - all along pretending that its expected!

I felt a bit bad afterwards and gave her RMB 20 taxi and an extra RMB100 and told her the money was for her to go out and buy a new coat; The poor gal really was so new that she didn't have enough to have already gotten a decent and warm coat - and it must have been close to freezing that day.

So all is not lost in CP and I heard that both Baby's and JoJo's shops just re-opened.
SE Asia Joe

SE Asia Joe
02-04-08, 09:18
And oh, besides that, the latest newsflash is that the exalted one who always tells everybody to keep away from HIS gals has flown the coop; This cold weather have driven him away and thus ALL the gals are now free for YOU to pick and peck!
SE Asia Joe

Dan Hawaii
02-04-08, 13:05
Just finished up my awesome trip to China and Phillipines. Many of you guys were asking me for a report on PI, so here it is:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=703552&postcount=1566

Enjoy, and if you guys have any questions, please pm. I'm planning on doing the China and PI combo again, was very much worth the extra $250 for airfare to PI from China. PI is a great alternative place for some of us that do not speak Chinese.

Happy CNY everyone!

Bill Lee
02-04-08, 15:29
baby had 9 gals, in groups of threes playing cards.
2nd floor Yalan had 7 gals.
5th floor Silver Star had 6 gals.
new 1st floor shop had 4 gals.
Bayun tree had 9 gals.
Didn't stop by Jojo, was already depressed from last night's count of 3 gals there.

Mommies say the low count was due to the holiday, customers coming earlier and picking up some of the gals and with some gals who don't come to work on Mondays.

Bill

Fast Eddie 48
02-04-08, 17:23
baby had 9 gals, in groups of threes playing cards.

2nd floor Yalan had 7 gals.
5th floor Silver Star had 6 gals.
new 1st floor shop had 4 gals.
Bayun tree had 9 gals.
Didn't stop by Jojo, was already depressed from last night's count of 3 gals there.

Mommies say the low count was due to the holiday, customers coming earlier and picking up some of the gals don't come to work on Monday.

BillBill,

The Mommie lie to you the real reason for small number of girl is the big crack down most girl got arrested and most move on to other area and 2 mommie got jail sentence and most got scare and closed shop and lay low ,I was only there for one night 2 week and got the hell out and head to Zhu hai have a great time there .

Fast eddie 48

Freepeaks
02-04-08, 19:55
Thanks for your time on the report Dan - I can cross of philippines, doesn't sound as much fun and found the Pgirls in HK annoying anyway.

good to meet you and maybe see you on another trip to CP.

Old Mean Dog
02-05-08, 01:58
Bill,

The Mommie lie to you the real reason for small number of girl is the big crack down most girl got arrested and most move on to other area and 2 mommie got jail sentence and most got scare and closed shop and lay low ,I was only there for one night 2 week and got the hell out and head to Zhu hai have a great time there .

Fast eddie 48

I would tend to agree with Fast Eddie. Raids, Holiday, Shitty Weather and pending International exposure all seem to have put a bit of a damper on the mongering scene in CP.

Anyone notice the big, pretty Beijing 2008 Olympics floral display they have built, right outside the main door of the train station? What event are they having in CP? 100 meter pussy race or the duck and dodge beggars relay?

-CPE

SE Asia Joe
02-05-08, 05:16
I would tend to agree with Fast Eddie. Raids, Holiday, Shitty Weather and pending International exposure all seem to have put a bit of a damper on the mongering scene in CP.

Anyone notice the big, pretty Beijing 2008 Olympics floral display they have built, right outside the main door of the train station? What event are they having in CP? 100 meter pussy race or the duck and dodge beggars relay?

-CPE
Cp - you got your own private stock so I guess you ain't too worried - right?

Since its such a shitty mongering scene in CP and the mongers are staying away in droves, the mommies and their gals are getting quite desperate and I'd venture to say that as a result, when one does find the occasional gem
amongst all that coal, it really is great! OK OK, I'm in that glass half full camp!

And hey, the Miraton has a special at RMB258/night going to Feb 11. Love it how business in China is so quick and always pro-active!

Se Asia

Bill Lee
02-05-08, 05:25
I think it's a combination of what you said and what they told me. Obviously there's are some who will fall outside the explanations we have here. Just the same, CP isn't like what it was two months ago.

Bill


Bill,

The Mommie lie to you the real reason for small number of girl is the big crack down most girl got arrested and most move on to other area and 2 mommie got jail sentence and most got scare and closed shop and lay low ,I was only there for one night 2 week and got the hell out and head to Zhu hai have a great time there .

Fast eddie 48

Bill Lee
02-06-08, 23:30
Jojo - closed
new #1 shop - closed
Silver Lake - closed
Baby's - 3 gals
2nd floor Yalan - 4 gals
R2 - 6 gals
Bayun tree - 2 gals
Coco at Hui Mei alley - closed

weather: cloudy, windy and cold

About 20% of the regular stores/restaurants are closed for the CNY.

Bill

Dan Hawaii
02-06-08, 23:49
Thanks for your time on the report Dan - I can cross of philippines, doesn't sound as much fun and found the Pgirls in HK annoying anyway.

good to meet you and maybe see you on another trip to CP.
Hey Freepeaks,

tell the DJ to "turn off the cold" .:) LOL

Actually PI was pretty fun, everyone in Manila, well 90% of them, speak English. It's worth the extra $250usd for the RT there. Just to try different flavors.

Freepeaks
02-07-08, 00:03
You know it's too cold when:

1. The girl in the see through outfit with bra and thong has to go change into street clothes (wtf that is why i chose her after Dan threw her back).

Freepeaks
02-07-08, 00:06
You know it's too cold when:

1. The girl in the see through outfit with bra and thong has to go change into street clothes (wtf that is why I chose her after Dan threw her back).

2. I was worried about my nipples showing

3. I had to unfreeze my beers between the girls legs.

Really it should be hot to encourage them to get naked. Does that every happen in DG KTV's or is that relegated to old shenzhen times? Can't find any posts on it.

Do any of the KTVs in DG have a common 'bar' area where if you don't have a room you can find a couple of cuties and have fun?

Great to meet you Dan. Wish I had the chance to venture with you to the BBS's that would have been quite amusing. Thanks for your throw back too she was great.

Freepeaks
02-07-08, 00:09
Anyone going to be about at that time? Would like to reexperience the KTV and whatever else is going on (doesn't sound like much now though) perhaps everyone will be cheery for the year of the rat.

Happy Chinese New Year everyone.

Beijing ABC
02-07-08, 06:25
Happened to be in Changping during CNY. Stayed at the Peninsula Hotel last night but did not endulge. Will go out this afternoon and see whats happening.

Will call COCO at the Miraton to see what they have at the hotel.

Any mongers staying in Changping during CNY and like to hookup?


Jojo - closed
new #1 shop - closed
Silver Lake - closed
Baby's - 3 gals
2nd floor Yalan - 4 gals
R2 - 6 gals
Bayun tree - 2 gals
Coco at Hui Mei alley - closed

weather: cloudy, windy and cold

About 20% of the regular stores/restaurants are closed for the CNY.

Bill

Old Mean Dog
02-07-08, 07:06
Jojo - closed
new #1 shop - closed
Silver Lake - closed
Baby's - 3 gals
2nd floor Yalan - 4 gals
R2 - 6 gals
Bayun tree - 2 gals
Coco at Hui Mei alley - closed

weather: cloudy, windy and cold

About 20% of the regular stores/restaurants are closed for the CNY.

Bill

Shit Bill, there is only one of you and 15 of them, how many girls you need each night?

-CPE

Bill Lee
02-07-08, 09:12
All right now.

They raise the fucking rate 100Rmb more at all the shops for the next six days. That's 300RMB for what used to be 200 short time at R2, Baby's, Jojo's, Banyun tree, new #1 shop, second floor Yalan and Silver Lake. 600RMB for LT.

It's a fucking conspiracy. The moms still want 100RMB upfront but can't tell whether the full 100 extra is for the gals alone.

Coco at Huimei raised her normal 150 to 200 for ST and will stay the same at 500 for LT. That's for the next five days.

The mommies claims it's for the CNY. Maybe to get the gals to work on a holiday is the incentive?

Next time, skipping CNY all together in CP.

Bill

Dan Hawaii
02-07-08, 13:19
You know it's too cold when:

1. The girl in the see through outfit with bra and thong has to go change into street clothes (wtf that is why I chose her after Dan threw her back).

2. I was worried about my nipples showing

3. I had to unfreeze my beers between the girls legs.

Really it should be hot to encourage them to get naked. Does that every happen in DG KTV's or is that relegated to old shenzhen times? Can't find any posts on it.

Do any of the KTVs in DG have a common 'bar' area where if you don't have a room you can find a couple of cuties and have fun?

Great to meet you Dan. Wish I had the chance to venture with you to the BBS's that would have been quite amusing. Thanks for your throw back too she was great.
Was great meeting you too, and see what a good friend I am throwing girls onto your lap for you. Sometimes its good to have it cold, the girls like to snuggle and hold you tight. Then you can play with their ass-tits, I meant assets. :)

Bob Sacamano
02-07-08, 17:42
Came back home this morning from a month of traveling around south China where, fortunately, I missed all the snow and train problems (600, 000 people at the GZ train station? No thanks! ).

It was great meeting some of you ISG south China guys: OAH, Weelock, Santa, Race Track, Bill Lee, Pleasure Dude, Manfest. And a few others I canít remember the names of (as Race Track mentioned in his post on 1-22). Thank you for your guidance, advice on hotels and the "memorable" trip through The Catacombs (where I was nearly kidnapped by three girls (thanks for rescuing me, guys) and where we saw a harrowing fight chase out of a Sam Peckinpah movie). The BBSís and Night Market were really cool. I hope to make it back there for an unofficial ISG convention someday.

If youíre ever up Harbin way, let me know. Take it easy, and be safe.

OldAsiaHand
02-07-08, 19:40
Next time, skipping CNY all together in CP.


Bill,

...and you didn't listen.

Just my POV.

OAH