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Having never been to Tulip, I'm very intrigued by the reports of PSE, anything goes service here.
One question I still have after RTFF. Do any of the girls do cum swapping?This is quite an unusual request (I think). Cum in Mouth CIM is common place. So girls are expected to do that even if they find it somewhat disgusting. Most will spit it out afterwards. Not many are really keen on swallowing in my experience but I have not taken the most hardened porn stars.
Now if you take two experienced girls, used to doing disgusting things, they may have never done cum swapping before, as is largely a porn movie gimmick. Girls are not going to enjoy it, only do it to please and to make money. You maybe be considered a weirdo, or maybe they experience all types of requests daily. I guess that does not matter. Tulip girls will surely co-operate if the money incentive is a good enough, after all, they put up with a lot of shit to make money. Your difficulty maybe to explain to the what you want, if they don't have really excellent English. I have no clue what is the right price incentive but may not be cheap. Just depends on the girls. Maybe have to explain to the manager / receptionist and have her ask the girls in general to come back with a special price and indicate who is willing.
I feel for sure this is possible at the right price.
Oh no no haha. I should have been more clear. I meant if I choose 2 girls and CIM, would they be willing to cumswap with each other.Ah ok. Since its a bit of an unusual request for thai mongering, it may be hard to actually describe and tell them what you want them to do with the language barrier (unless you get lucky and their english is good). I can't see why these girls, that is, experienced Tulip girls wouldn't do it, especially for a tip, but actually conveying what you want done is going to be hard.
Maybe a good route would be to ask mamasan beforehand to explain what you're asking them to do, and she can tell the girls and make sure they understand before you go to the room. In that case you'll probably be OK. The girls are fine with CIM stuff, they just need know what you want and understand it. There's been plenty of times I've had a girl, said I want something, and she agrees, only to have her not really understand it in context. If this is something you really want, make sure its understood whats happening before you get upstairs. Expect to get upcharged.
Tulip is probably a good place to ask this, with its reputation is all. Eden Club could certainly substitute as well, especially if you're really looking for the two girl PSE. The girls there may be more used to these kinds of requests since all their action is two girls.
Lastly, I mean since you are getting two girls, make sure they girls are wanting to work with each other, and if you want them to lesbian, make sure they will. Just ask and be clear and if you want action between them say so and make sure they agree. If you don't care about them doing stuff to each other, than you don't need to worry about that and just figure it out in the room.
Try Golf / Gop and Ying. Last time they did this for me.Many thanks to JonnieDarkko, GrapeMan, and Syzygies for the responses. I will definitely report back on this during my next BKK trip, which will be in 4 Q this year.
Oh no no haha. I should have been more clear. I meant if I choose 2 girls and CIM, would they be willing to cumswap with each other.Should you not be able to make it work at Tulip I would think the ladies at a BJ shop would be approachable for this. They are accustomed to providing CIM service after all, and ultimately it is just a bit of a detour from the source LOL.
SL.
Ying is back at Tulip after a month of vacation. She looks great and is ready for action 😜.
Ying is back at Tulip after a month of vacation. She looks great and is ready for action 😜.I be arriving Bkk in a weeks time after 10 years.
My first stop be Tulip for sure.
I have read so much about infamous Ying but not photo of her.
Franciscass
05-09-19, 03:27
The simple answer as to whether a particular specialized service is available is to ask the mamasan at the well known so called PSE shops I. E. Tulip and Snow white. Don't limit yourself to these and most important don't be afraid or embarrassed to inquire, believe me there is nothing you ask for that most of them have not heard before. As a rule of thump everything is available somewhere by somebody for a price.
Ying is back at Tulip after a month of vacation. She looks great and is ready for action 😜.Ying is awesome and pretty. I think she is the prettiest of the bunch at Tulip. She is also quite a happy person and into good sex. Get her off, be respectful and she opens up.
I also reccommend Golf (Gop), Leena and June. The last time I was with June. She is putting her makeup on in a different way and it looks quite sexy. Plus she is into sex as well. Turn her on and I don't think she knows how to say no. Golf has an amazing round ass which I like to gape.
Ying and Golf as a threesome can't be beat. They are roomates and work quite well together. Golf gets Ying off with her tongue when Ying is too horny at home. Ying is too much of a cock hound to go fully gay. She loves cock. It is so much fun.
The simple answer as to whether a particular specialized service is available is to ask the mamasan at the well known so called PSE shops I. E. Tulip and Snow white. Don't limit yourself to these and most important don't be afraid or embarrassed to inquire, believe me there is nothing you ask for that most of them have not heard before. As a rule of thump everything is available somewhere by somebody for a price.This is good advice for mongering anywhere, be it the Thai MPs or wherever in the world.
That said, the PSE places in thailand are totally known for being PSEs, so most girls in those establishments are ready to go full PSE as normal and that's just what they do, its more than just getting A+ or whatever. Sure you can find girls willing to do anything for a price in any of the MPs, but the PSEs really are more of a package experience than a single "will you do X" sorta thing. The PSE MPs expect the customers to ask for all sorts of stuff in the room and that's normal, you won't get at "no" or "you pay more", they just go with it.
Sure you can find girls willing to do anything for a price in any of the MPs, but the PSEs really are more of a package experience than a single "will you do X" sorta thing. The PSE MPs expect the customers to ask for all sorts of stuff in the room and that's normal, you won't get at "no" or "you pay more", they just go with it.Reads a bit confusing to me. Not all girls do absolutely anything. They set limits in their own mind. As a simple example, most girls will do BBBJ with CIM, but not many wanted to swallow it (without an incentive). Some would secretly spit it out so customer did not even know. I have read triumphant reports of where the girl supposedly swallowed (without even being requested to do so) yet the girl informed me she never swallowed (as I suspected and knew she surreptitiously got rid of it silently), and denied swallowing or being willing to do so.
Sure many PSE things are somewhat standard and don't have an extra charge, however I think the advice to ask about what you "require" before going to the room has more chance to avoid disappointment, and something particularly strange is possibly not a free addition.
In my experience, granted a bit limited in recent years (however I used to be a Tulip customer), certain girls rule out certain acts virtually absolutely. Maybe for 1 million Baht they would risk it, but that is academic. Has to depend on how standard or how weird is the thing wanted, and even how much the girl likes the customer sometimes. Some girls generally don't do something, but may bend their own self imposed rules for a preferred customer (new customer off the street wanting something weird maybe less likely).
This is good advice for mongering anywhere, be it the Thai MPs or wherever in the world.
That said, the PSE places in thailand are totally known for being PSEs, so most girls in those establishments are ready to go full PSE as normal and that's just what they do, its more than just getting A+ or whatever. Sure you can find girls willing to do anything for a price in any of the MPs, but the PSEs really are more of a package experience than a single "will you do X" sorta thing. The PSE MPs expect the customers to ask for all sorts of stuff in the room and that's normal, you won't get at "no" or "you pay more", they just go with it.If what you say is true I might be willing to give some of these kinds of Thai PSE shops another try.
Could you or anyone else on the board direct me to the Thai PSE shops where most of the girls just go for BBBJ+CIM+SWALLOW and BBFS+CIP on request, never say no and don't demand extra money for it? Tulip and which others?
Even more valuable info; could you or anyone else on the board name the mamasan or papasan in the PSE shops (or any other venue in Thailand for that matter) who will easily and without expressing disapproval point out which girls in their venue will agree to BBBJ+CIM+SWALLOW and BBFS+CIP, not say no and will not demand more money for it?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Reads a bit confusing to me. Not all girls do absolutely anything. They set limits in their own mind. As a simple example, most girls will do BBBJ with CIM, but not many wanted to swallow it (without an incentive). Some would secretly spit it out so customer did not even know. I have read triumphant reports of where the girl supposedly swallowed (without even being requested to do so) yet the girl informed me she never swallowed (as I suspected and knew she surreptitiously got rid of it silently), and denied swallowing or being willing to do so.
Sure many PSE things are somewhat standard and don't have an extra charge, however I think the advice to ask about what you "require" before going to the room has more chance to avoid disappointment, and something particularly strange is possibly not a free addition.
In my experience, granted a bit limited in recent years (however I used to be a Tulip customer), certain girls rule out certain acts virtually absolutely. Maybe for 1 million Baht they would risk it, but that is academic. Has to depend on how standard or how weird is the thing wanted, and even how much the girl likes the customer sometimes. Some girls generally don't do something, but may bend their own self imposed rules for a preferred customer (new customer off the street wanting something weird maybe less likely).You're right, I was oversimplifying the situation to make it a shorter post, which I should not have. But yes, in full agreement here and your expertise and tactness is always appreciated man! My point was just that the PSE places more stuff is "standard"/ expected than others. But I almost always ask before as well even PSEs and setting the requirements of what you want should be always done if there's any question.
Slightly off topic but to reply to another side of your post- I've oddly enough had lots of luck with swallowing unprompted (I generally don't ask for it, but its nice), especially at Dr. BJs / Wood bar, and the occasional MP girl. I'm really of the belief that swallowing tends to be a more YMMV thing unless its really really explicit that they better do it.
Tulip is one of the most hardcore services anywhere. For Leena June and Golf I don't think no exists in their vocab. Never been with Ying and some of the others but I'm guessing the legends of this place no never exists.
This is good advice for mongering anywhere, be it the Thai MPs or wherever in the world.
That said, the PSE places in thailand are totally known for being PSEs, so most girls in those establishments are ready to go full PSE as normal and that's just what they do, its more than just getting A+ or whatever. Sure you can find girls willing to do anything for a price in any of the MPs, but the PSEs really are more of a package experience than a single "will you do X" sorta thing. The PSE MPs expect the customers to ask for all sorts of stuff in the room and that's normal, you won't get at "no" or "you pay more", they just go with it.
Tulip is one of the most hardcore services anywhere. For Leena June and Golf I don't think no exists in their vocab. Never been with Ying and some of the others but I'm guessing the legends of this place no never exists.I haven't been with Golf or Ying (they are on my the to-do list!) there but always had a great time at Tulip for whatever I like with other girls. But I don't think I'm generally asking for anything they would say no to anyways or anything more extreme (I don't ask for BBFS for example). But I've had nothing but good experiences with PSE at Tulip, they've been open to whatever porn stuff I ask them to do, as much as I'd like and more than enthusiastic about it. I think they know why the place has the reputation it does and don't want to disappoint.
I can't remember the last bad time I had there.
I spent time fucking the new nadear last year, OMG. I just wanted Leena to leave us haha. When nadear came (well ID like to think she did) near on broke my cock. Back soon. Going to enjoy every minute of it.
I haven't been with Golf or Ying (they are on my the to-do list!) there but always had a great time at Tulip for whatever I like with other girls. But I don't think I'm generally asking for anything they would say no to anyways or anything more extreme (I don't ask for BBFS for example). But I've had nothing but good experiences with PSE at Tulip, they've been open to whatever porn stuff I ask them to do, as much as I'd like and more than enthusiastic about it. I think they know why the place has the reputation it does and don't want to disappoint.
Want to try fisting, I. E. Girl will fist me (yeah. I know, I know.) Who will be the best? Experienced and with patience?
T. 72.
Want to try fisting, I. E. Girl will fist me (yeah. I know, I know.) Who will be the best? Experienced and with patience?
T. 72.Try Analisa Massage. They specifically provide this.
Most of the girls at tulip will probably do it too. Maybe bring them some gloves and lube as well.
Try Analisa Massage. They specifically provide this.
Most of the girls at tulip will probably do it too. Maybe bring them some gloves and lube as well.I've tried Analisa but it didn't work for me. Maybe I didn't click with a girl.
I've tried Analisa but it didn't work for me. Maybe I didn't click with a girl.Did you specifically ask or be fisted? If not then it's unlikely to happen. I've had a few girls ask to fist, only one or two were joking. Not my cup of tea but definitely available.
Tiradentes
05-14-19, 03:58
If what you say is true I might be willing to give some of these kinds of Thai PSE shops another try.
Could you or anyone else on the board direct me to the Thai PSE shops where most of the girls just go for BBBJ+CIM+SWALLOW and BBFS+CIP on request, never say no and don't demand extra money for it? Tulip and which others?
.Good luck getting such info. In my own experience, I noticed it is getting more and more difficult the last few years to get BBFS in Bangkok- or Pattaya for that matter (e. G. Soi 6). And I promise the ladies generous tip for the extra service. Last time, I did a survey: It took me asking about 15 girls on Soi 6 in Pattaya (more liberal than BKK) for BBFS- until one finally said yes (w / pull out). They are getting brainwashed about condom use, IMO. Or maybe it is just my looks. 555.
Good luck getting such info. In my own experience, I noticed it is getting more and more difficult the last few years to get BBFS in Bangkok- or Pattaya for that matter (e. G. Soi 6). And I promise the ladies generous tip for the extra service. Last time, I did a survey: It took me asking about 15 girls on Soi 6 in Pattaya (more liberal than BKK) for BBFS- until one finally said yes (w / pull out). They are getting brainwashed about condom use, IMO. Or maybe it is just my looks. 555.I know what you mean about Pattaya. That is my experience, too. But I lose interest in Pattaya girls long before I hit up as many as 15 of them. lol. I'm ok with stopping at 3-4. I seriously doubt I have missed out on anything worth paying as much as 100-200 baht for in my last 6-7 trips there.
But I have found BBFS+CIP to be easier to swing these days in Bangkok than it was 20-25 years ago. Of course, 20-25 years ago was the height of the HIV/AIDS pro-condom hysteria. However, it is certainly not a skate or easy to get in Thailand today as it is in other countries. One thing I have discovered is it is not easier to get among the groups you would ordinarily think it would be more likely to agree to it; street girls, so-called PSE shops, among older, worn out or less attractive ladies (see my Pattaya comment above). No. It has been easier for me to get an upfront agreement for it with younger, more fit, above average go-go dancers, regular girls (and often Freelancers) you meet working in restaurants, malls and on dating sites.
I would say from the total lack of positive replies to my questions in that post, there are zero places in Thailand where what I described is available and zero mamasans or papasans who know enough about their girls to point out which ones are up for it and zero chance the girls would let them know about it anyway. So much for the "Just ask the mamasans or papasans. Tell them what you want. They will steer you right. They've heard it all and won't be shocked" bit of advice I've been reading and hearing re P4P destinations most of my life but has never turned out to be true.
They are getting brainwashed about condom use, IMO. Or maybe it is just my looks. 555.They are getting better educated. Firstly Gonorrhea and Chlamydia so easy to catch, but more importantly condom is extra protection against pregnancy. We all know what a high percentage of young Thai hookers (and non hookers too) got pregnant accidentally and no abortion. Girl also runs a significant risk of HIV, should the guy also happen to be a drug user. Hardly surprising many girls don't want a CIP.
I am not lecturing, I just state the obvious reasons why a girl does not want it. It adds a risk for sure.
I am struggling to enjoy condom sex myself these days, particularly difficult for extended fucks. Viagra assist helps counteract the condom deadening effect for long fucks, but not a complete answer. I might be doing an ET and carrying my test certificate / printouts soon. Ha ha.
They are getting better educated. Firstly Gonorrhea and Chlamydia so easy to catch, but more importantly condom is extra protection against pregnancy. We all know what a high percentage of young Thai hookers (and non hookers too) got pregnant accidentally and no abortion. Girl also runs a significant risk of HIV, should the guy also happen to be a drug user. Hardly surprising many girls don't want a CIP.
I am not lecturing, I just state the obvious reasons why a girl does not want it. It adds a risk for sure.
I am struggling to enjoy condom sex myself these days, particularly difficult for extended fucks. Viagra assist helps counteract the condom deadening effect for long fucks, but not a complete answer. I might be doing an ET and carrying my test certificate / printouts soon. Ha ha.Completely agree with Syzygies here, and as a guy who has sought out BBFS myself.
I NEVER blame the girl for saying no. It is a very serious occupational hazard in their occupation and if I were a working girl, everything penetrative outside of oral would be encased in rubber / latex.
I supposed this makes me a big hypocrite for seeking out something I myself would not provide if roles were reversed. But if my tool didn't have the issues it has with the latex. I'd be perfectly content wearing latex (as it's safer for me too). So I'm envious of the guys who have no issues fucking several times a day wearing a rubber- or even once a day several days in a row. My first time after say a week plus of non sexual contact is generally fine with a rubber. If anything it makes me last longer (though not nearly as intense, feeling wise) - but after that first time, subsequent encasings in latex are invitations to disasters, and frankly, no longer feel good anymore.
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I am struggling to enjoy condom sex myself these days, particularly difficult for extended fucks. Viagra assist helps counteract the condom deadening effect for long fucks, but not a complete answer. I might be doing an ET and carrying my test certificate / printouts soon. Ha ha.It is good to have it on hand to show if necessary. But it is rarely necessary. Usually, I'll just say something like, "I've had the vasectomy surgery (saying the word in Thai) so I will not make you pregnant and I am clean and safe for you." Most of the time if there is any chance the girl would be up for BB with me, that is all she needs to hear.
Yeah, that last part is vague and cannot be known 100% by anyone. But I know that Thai girls are almost exclusively worried about HIV, despite the fact that they have likely never met an HIV positive customer or potential boyfriend. So if she says, "How do you know you're safe? You have so many ladies!", I've got a recent test result to show her. It doesn't work to overcome their fears every time, for sure. But it helps quite often. I might be the only punter they have ever met who can honestly say he's gotten a vasectomy AND has a recent HIV test result to show.
It is good to have it on hand to show if necessary. But it is rarely necessary. Usually, I'll just say something like, "I've had the vasectomy surgery (saying the word in Thai) so I will not make you pregnant and I am clean and safe for you." Most of the time if there is any chance the girl would be up for BB with me, that is all she needs to hear.
I imagine free of pregnancy risk is a significant factor however I can't claim that:"Thum Mun laew". Mun rhymes with fun and run, and has to be rising tone to make sense, but means neutered, commonly used for dogs. Do you have an alternate phase? "saai naam asoojee dtut laew" might work (I just made that up never having a call for it before). That literally is my "sperm tube is cut already". Perhaps "tied" would be better?
Plenty of girls got pregnant despite supposedly taking the pill. I have managed not to get any girl pregnant.
A recent HIV test is not 100% proof, but lowers the odds hugely, given a guy is not going to get it easily other than by needles, transfusions, or cock up the ass, or more than one of those risks. So she sees no needle marks and assesses you are not gay.
I have no clues if many guys are fucking ladyboy ass bareback or receiving and how high are the risks. I hope they are mostly smart enough not to do that.
I imagine free of pregnancy risk is a significant factor however I can't claim that:"Thum Mun laew". Mun rhymes with fun and run, and has to be rising tone to make sense, but means neutered, commonly used for dogs. Do you have an alternate phase? "saai naam asoojee dtut laew" might work (I just made that up never having a call for it before). That literally is my "sperm tube is cut already". Perhaps "tied" would be better?
... Assuming the girl is unfamiliar with the word "vasectomy", I just point to my crotch area at that point in the sentence and say the Thai word for it, something like "tha-man".
It is the word that comes up when you enter the word "vasectomy" in Google Translate to translate English to Thai. And you can tap the speaker icon to hear how it is said.
I understand the meaning of "tha-man" is closer to "sterile" in English, as though it is the result of an accident or a birth defect rather than an elective surgery. But the girls seem to quickly know what I mean and will usually smile and give me a big thumbs up about it.
I first met Ying around 4 or 5 months ago. She was amazing and fucked the shit out of me. Made me cum 4 times (with pussy alone) in 2 hours. I haven't done that in more than 10 years so, obviously, I wanted to repeat with her. The 4 shot thing wasn't repeated (which I didn't expect) but I always have a great time with Ying. She's 40 years old, kind of pretty (or, in light of the majority of the girls at Tulip, bloody gorgeous in comparison), average Thai female height, weight in the low 50 kgs, from Chiang Mai, has minimal English (but surprises me sometimes with quotables like "Fuck me strong" or "Cum in my ass") is a beast in the sack, and is all the PSE you expect from Tulip.
I booked her for this afternoon and it was an awesome experience. In the shower, after soaping up my cock and ass, she wanted a "test run" and bent over. So I stuck it in, then and there. However, being rather tall and almost blind without my glasses, I put it in the wrong hole. She wasn't ready for that and it hurt with a declaration of "Jeb!" Dick out, she soaped up her asshole and said "Let's try again" and we did. Nice slippery, soapy, assfuck in the shower followed by a nice long blowjob. A2 M. Good stuff.
On the bed, I pleasured her the way she likes until she came. One good thing about repeating with a massage lady is that they know what you like and you know (if you care and I do) what they like. Reciprocal works for me.
She made cum twice today. Once in cowgirl and once with a sloppy long blowjob. She spit out the cum onto my dick and balls and then massaged them using my cum as lubricant until I was hard again and she got round 3 started. But time was almost up by then so a 2 shot day it was.
Great girl and always delivers. Couldn't give a higher recommendation.
Crocodilexp
05-17-19, 20:51
I first met Ying around 4 or 5 months ago... On the bed, I pleasured her the way she likes until she came. One good thing about repeating with a massage lady is that they know what you like and you know (if you care and I do) what they like. Reciprocal works for me.Great report. Did you manage to make Ying squirt? It doesn't work for me every time, but when it does, it's a real treat.
A working girl coming is nice, but they can fake it easily, and many do (can't blame them for that). However, that squirt Ying occasionally does, it's really memorable.
Great report. Did you manage to make Ying squirt? It doesn't work for me every time, but when it does, it's a real treat.
A working girl coming is nice, but they can fake it easily, and many do (can't blame them for that). However, that squirt Ying occasionally does, it's really memorable.She squirted in anal cowgirl with me only the one time, back at her old apartment on soi 56 before she moved. Rare for her to squirt. It was a surprise, for sure.
Assuming the girl is unfamiliar with the word "vasectomy", I just point to my crotch area at that point in the sentence and say the Thai word for it, something like "tha-man".
It is the word that comes up when you enter the word "vasectomy" in Google Translate to translate English to Thai. And you can tap the speaker icon to hear how it is said.
I understand the meaning of "tha-man" is closer to "sterile" in English, as though it is the result of an accident or a birth defect rather than an elective surgery. But the girls seem to quickly know what I mean and will usually smile and give me a big thumbs up about it.Tham Man (or Thum Mun), Thum rhymes with Rum and Mun rhymes with Fun, means you have been "neutered" or castrated technically (since Thum is the verb to make or do something), not really born that way, I think. Mun by itself means sterile. Anyway I trust you are not using 'Man' pronounced in the English way (should be the German or Jamaican way), which has completely different meaning and girls would not understand.
A vasectomy in the dictionary is "Thum Mun Chaay" where Chaay just means the male type (of sterilisation).
Without the rising tone, Man / Mun means potato or pronoun for "it". Ha ha. So tones matter a lot in Thai. I still forget the right tone for words rarely used, including this one. I had to check the correct tone. The problem for Farangs is when we hear the word we may well understand, but the tone does not register enough to imprinted into the automatic memory.
"Thum mun laew" is best since that is past tense meaning vasectomy has already been done.
Or "Tham man laew" if your letter "A" is pronounced German style.
I first met Ying around 4 or 5 months ago. She was amazing and fucked the shit out of me. Made me cum 4 times (with pussy alone) in 2 hours. I haven't done that in more than 10 years so, obviously, I wanted to repeat with her. The 4 shot thing wasn't repeated (which I didn't expect) but I always have a great time with Ying. She's 40 years old, kind of pretty (or, in light of the majority of the girls at Tulip, bloody gorgeous in comparison), average Thai female height, weight in the low 50 kgs, from Chiang Mai, has minimal English (but surprises me sometimes with quotables like "Fuck me strong" or "Cum in my ass") is a beast in the sack, and is all the PSE you expect from Tulip.
I booked her for this afternoon and it was an awesome experience. In the shower, after soaping up my cock and ass, she wanted a "test run" and bent over. So I stuck it in, then and there. However, being rather tall and almost blind without my glasses, I put it in the wrong hole. She wasn't ready for that and it hurt with a declaration of "Jeb!" Dick out, she soaped up her asshole and said "Let's try again" and we did. Nice slippery, soapy, assfuck in the shower followed by a nice long blowjob. A2 M. Good stuff.
On the bed, I pleasured her the way she likes until she came. One good thing about repeating with a massage lady is that they know what you like and you know (if you care and I do) what they like. Reciprocal works for me.
She made cum twice today. Once in cowgirl and once with a sloppy long blowjob. She spit out the cum onto my dick and balls and then massaged them using my cum as lubricant until I was hard again and she got round 3 started. But time was almost up by then so a 2 shot day it was.
Great girl and always delivers. Couldn't give a higher recommendation.While it is true that Ying is a great performer, I did not move half way around the globe to partake with 40 year old MILFs. I want to look down after I finish and think, wow, not meh. I can get that at home, for free. And yes, for the most part, performance would be on par. I've never had an issue with performance, since my first GF when I was 15. In fact, almost all the gals back home I have dated, lived with, or been married to have been hornier than me, as kinky as me, and had very dirty minds. Guess the late Boomers and early Gen X'er women were the most liberated sexually due to the advent of the pill and the effects of the 60's.
When I first came to Thailand in the late 90's I was on my first trip, in fact, a little disappointed. I expected the gals to be far sluttier and PSE like based on my experience with women back home. They weren't. Even though many of the gals had been in the biz for a time, their skills, knowledge of their own anatomy, and the male anatomy were very limited. In addition, almost none were experimental, almost all were quite conservative, and kink, well forget about it. But the variety, ease, youthfulness, and low cost; that was the attraction. Where else on the planet could you find a reasonable looking gal, baby free, for 12 to 25 USD, and at the same time live in a city where you could have a 5 star life on a 2-3 star budget, with easy visas and no stress at all. Don't bother anyone and they won't bother you. It truly was a paradise. Sorry for the digression.
As the GoGo and FL scene begin to change after the '06 coup, the age of the oilies began in earnest. Barons opened before that, but it was not until Tulip came on the scene and spawned Mango and Snow White that we truly entered an era where you could find a pretty fine looking gal that really gave a performance worthy of those gals back home. They were youngish, many baby free, had amazing skills, and some truly seemed to enjoy the kink, filth, and ability they had to really send a man home with his knees shaking. I'd often walk into one of the three parlors and have a hard time deciding who I wanted to take. The anticipation was quite the buildup to the payoff.
Thailand is a very dynamic place. In my almost two decades of residence here I have seen more changes than in my home in the last 40 years. Physical changes yes, but also changes in attitudes amongst the people in general. I don't think we farang have ever really been liked here, however we were tolerated as a necessity and at times a curiosity. Now with the hordes of mainlanders we are unnecessary and an annoyance. The looks we get now when walking down the street, the changes in immigration law, etc. Changes in the P4 P industry have been vast as well. The influx of more and more non-western punters has not only effected price, but attitudes towards the job, and performance as well. This combined with Thailands more culturally conservative thrust over the past 5 years has really made the "scene" less desirable in all aspects. We cannot dismiss the effect connectivity has on the hobby worldwide as well.
So to make a short story long, what is left to us at the present is a choice: good looking youngish gals who are expensive and for the most part mediocre at best when it comes to performance, or old MILFs who know how to throw the kitty. And sports fans, for me neither is a great option. So perhaps it is time to move on. South America seems to hold some promise, and also offers residency and citizenships that are far easier to obtain than Thailand. Going to do some traveling myself.
While it is true that Ying is a great performer, I did not move half way around the globe to partake with 40 year old MILFs. I want to look down after I finish and think, wow, not meh. I can get that at home, for free. And yes, for the most part, performance would be on par. I've never had an issue with performance, since my first GF when I was 15. In fact, almost all the gals back home I have dated, lived with, or been married to have been hornier than me, as kinky as me, and had very dirty minds. Guess the late Boomers and early Gen X'er women were the most liberated sexually due to the advent of the pill and the effects of the 60's.
When I first came to Thailand in the late 90's I was on my first trip, in fact, a little disappointed. I expected the gals to be far sluttier and PSE like based on my experience with women back home. They weren't. Ha ha you were very fortunate to get it so good back home. Many of us did not and coming to Thailand was like Paradise in 1991. We then wanted to catch up on many years of missing out on great sex. To get young girls (10 years younger than myself or more) with fabulous bodies who could be passionate that night, and in the morning, and maybe some other bouts, was not something we all were used to. My ex wife was very unsuitable sexually.
Finally after all those years, I have a hot GF (milfy age now), that is horny nearly every night. I did have the odd GF back home that was that horny, but they never lasted, as were just too crazy to cope with. I always thought female high sex drive was correlated with overly crazy semi-psycho behaviour. Just had the wrong girls. When younger hot Asian girls were available back home, there had to be something wrong. Why were they available? Obviously I was not handsome enough to be the ideal catch.
There are huge numbers of milfy Thai girls wanting to meet the right Farang very badly. It is stacked in our favour here. Maybe not so many young hot Thai girls are desperate for a farang BF or husband though. It maybe the case when they don't have prospects of anything better, or sick of unreliable Thai guys. Strangely many of these girls wanting a Farang, can't speak English. ha ha. Does not seem to make good sense. My Mrs has weak English too. She never envisaged getting a Farang guy permanently. I just refused to go away. Ha ha.
While it is true that Ying is a great performer, I did not move half way around the globe to partake with 40 year old MILFs. I want to look down after I finish and think, wow, not meh. I can get that at home, for free. And yes, for the most part, performance would be on par. I've never had an issue with performance, since my first GF when I was 15. In fact, almost all the gals back home I have dated, lived with, or been married to have been hornier than me, as kinky as me, and had very dirty minds. Guess the late Boomers and early Gen X'er women were the most liberated sexually due to the advent of the pill and the effects of the 60's.
When I first came to Thailand in the late 90's I was on my first trip, in fact, a little disappointed. I expected the gals to be far sluttier and PSE like based on my experience with women back home. They weren't. Even though many of the gals had been in the biz for a time, their skills, knowledge of their own anatomy, and the male anatomy were very limited. In addition, almost none were experimental, almost all were quite conservative, and kink, well forget about it. But the variety, ease, youthfulness, and low cost; that was the attraction. Where else on the planet could you find a reasonable looking gal, baby free, for 12 to 25 USD, and at the same time live in a city where you could have a 5 star life on a 2-3 star budget, with easy visas and no stress at all. Don't bother anyone and they won't bother you. It truly was a paradise. Sorry for the digression.
As the GoGo and FL scene begin to change after the '06 coup, the age of the oilies began in earnest. Barons opened before that, but it was not until Tulip came on the scene and spawned Mango and Snow White that we truly entered an era where you could find a pretty fine looking gal that really gave a performance worthy of those gals back home. They were youngish, many baby free, had amazing skills, and some truly seemed to enjoy the kink, filth, and ability they had to really send a man home with his knees shaking. I'd often walk into one of the three parlors and have a hard time deciding who I wanted to take. The anticipation was quite the buildup to the payoff.
Thailand is a very dynamic place. In my almost two decades of residence here I have seen more changes than in my home in the last 40 years. Physical changes yes, but also changes in attitudes amongst the people in general. I don't think we farang have ever really been liked here, however we were tolerated as a necessity and at times a curiosity. Now with the hordes of mainlanders we are unnecessary and an annoyance. The looks we get now when walking down the street, the changes in immigration law, etc. Changes in the P4 P industry have been vast as well. The influx of more and more non-western punters has not only effected price, but attitudes towards the job, and performance as well. This combined with Thailands more culturally conservative thrust over the past 5 years has really made the "scene" less desirable in all aspects. We cannot dismiss the effect connectivity has on the hobby worldwide as well.
So to make a short story long, what is left to us at the present is a choice: good looking youngish gals who are expensive and for the most part mediocre at best when it comes to performance, or old MILFs who know how to throw the kitty. And sports fans, for me neither is a great option. So perhaps it is time to move on. South America seems to hold some promise, and also offers residency and citizenships that are far easier to obtain than Thailand. Going to do some traveling myself.I get your point. I'd be all over dirty-as-fuck PSE late teen or early 20's girls (if they existed). Alas, that is a very rare thing. I found a young crazy ass nympho in Cambodia back in 2006 that I still cannot get out of my head. She fucked me two days straight with minimal breaks to eat and sleep. Rare indeed.
Back in Thailand and current day, if I have to choose between youth and looks and age and experience (which, apparently, we have to choose between), it's an easy choice for me. I take the 40 year old who fucks like a beast over the 20 year old starfish who wants 5000 baht short-time because she's pretty. Been there, done that. Always disgusted with it. The MILFs rely on their skills, not their looks, to do a good job.
To each his own.
Franciscass
05-19-19, 13:43
All experience is relative.
Recently a friend of mine who lives In LA where he is a successful film music composer came for a visit. Although not exactly an A- Lister he gets laid as often as wants there. More to the point he a well-traveled seasoned P4P player in Central and South America. But this was his first outing in the orient. Two weeks later totally knocked out by the experience vows he is coming back to live here and will now only marry a Thai girl.
OK I know I know that may change after the next visit or two but my point is that Thailand still remains for the first time visitor the same as it was 20 years ago a wonderful oasis full of culture, spirituality, beautiful girls, charm, culinary delights et al.
I have lived here over 20 years and yes of course it has changed. But I am aware I have also changed grown grumpier and less tolerant. Thing is I am aware of these changes and how they affect my perspective and as a result I try to adjust and compensate.
There were times like all expats and retirees when I got a bit fed up with the scene, increasing prices, immigration getting more of a hassle, P4P getting more opportunistic as the"age of innocence' fades but I have never felt an unwanted guest here among a wide circle of Thai friends and colleagues and I have never wanted to live anywhere else.
There may be a Shangri- La out there for those tired of living here because the good ole days are no more but for me this is it and always will be.
Crocodilexp
05-19-19, 18:33
Back in Thailand and current day, if I have to choose between youth and looks and age and experience (which, apparently, we have to choose between), it's an easy choice for me. I take the 40 year old who fucks like a beast over the 20 year old starfish who wants 5000 baht short-time because she's pretty.We don't get that choice. In Thailand these days, there's no significant supply of especially attractive 20 year olds are at any price. To clarify, I mean any sensible price in mongering venues / areas; of course you could still get almost anyone to sleep with you for 100 k baht, or charm a civilian.
At best, in top agogos paying the top price, one could get a rather crude 20-25 year old From Issan who'd not rank especially high on looks back in her village, let alone in Bangkok. If you took 20 top agogo girls and 80 random girls of the same age riding the Skytrain, virtually all the agogo girls would be in the bottom half (or third) by looks, with very few breaking into the average, let alone pretty, zone. Add to that the awful tattoos, bad nose jobs, ugly thick eyebrows, and it doesn't get any better. Thermae girls may fare slightly better, but the pretty ones are likely to reject non-Japanese, and that's just no fun.
It's not especially hard to choose a great and reliable performer like Ying over the above, anytime.
Unfortunately, this eliminates one important aspect of mongering, which is browsing, spending time surrounded by willing females allowing you to make a choice (a luxury men tend not to have in most places). Decent service can still be found in Thailand, but I miss the time when I could go out not knowing what pleasure or surprise the night might bring, those days are long gone. It's no longer exciting or fun, even if I could walk into Tulip and get decent service from a known provider.
I've been in Hong Kong about a year ago, and there, you can still come across an occasional working girl, streetwalker or 141, who actually looks attractive or at least average in a positive sense (compared to civilians, not the dregs). Unfortunately, service is usually atrocious, although prices, surprisingly, aren't higher than Bangkok (per session / shot; if you count per minute, Thailand still wins).
Sadly, it's not just Thailand going down in quality, but every single mongering scene I'm familiar with. Admittedly, I haven't tried South America, crime is a significant deterrent, especially in places like Venezuela which should theoretically offer great mongering (since I like doing stuff other than mongering too, without having to look over my shoulder).
We don't get that choice. In Thailand these days, there's no significant supply of especially attractive 20 year olds are at any price. To clarify, I mean any sensible price in mongering venues / areas; of course you could still get almost anyone to sleep with you for 100 k baht, or charm a civilian.
"no significant supply" maybe correct but pretty ones still exist. Check your photos of girls from many years ago and see how many were really pretty back then. You may find you don't have many better girls from yesteryear. We get more and more picky / fussy. I accept that.
I have seen pics of Natty Bumpo's girls and he is still managing to find good to extremely pretty girls. His taste happens to be similar to mine. I am less active. I found a girl I would describe as pretty in Kazy (new bar) recently after being there for 40 minutes. Yes it ain't easy to find them, once we are picky.
I even found a moderately pretty girl with great tits in an Oily MP recently. It requires a lot of browsing to find them.
Yes the scene is spoiled by girls with too many surgeries. Also pretty girls find alternative work to being hookers, but not if they have no decent education most likely, unless they are tall enough to be a model. A good percentage of the better looking girls are now deciding to be "Coyotes" which is spoiling the gogo bar scene somewhat. Still many can be had for a possibly high price, depending on the bar.
Some of us are still going the path to choose good looking girls (and hope to get a good experience if lucky) over ordinary looking girls with fabulous service, or porn stars. The porn star experience with an average (or worse) looking girl is not first choice for all, in fact must be a long time since I did one of those. Also girls with good bodies is not the same as a beautiful girl for me. Great body and ugly face is not doing it for me. Fortunately I don't have a problem to do brown skinned Isaan girls since 90%+ are Isaan anyway. Yet I don't choose broad flat noses.
Crocodilexp
05-20-19, 19:03
"no significant supply" maybe correct but pretty ones still exist. Check your photos of girls from many years ago and see how many were really pretty back then. You may find you don't have many better girls from yesteryear. You're right that even in the heyday, very few working girls were real stunners. However, many had a certain simple girl-next-door attractiveness and Thai charm, which is exceedingly rare among working girls these days (if it exists at all). Moreover, you could find a fair number of such attractive girl-next-door types on every corner of lower Sukhumvit at night. Maybe my taste is unusual; the scene these days is surely better for punters who like crude tattoos, bad nosejobs, and those god-awful drawn eyebrows (many normal girls have them these days too). To be honest, I'm not that picky, I'd go for an average looking Thai girl on the Skytrain (in the literal sense of "average", not as a euphemism for "ugly" but unfortunately, crude and filthy looks are an instant turnoff.
It might still be possible to find a sex worker in their 20's who looks physically ok (especially fine in photos, some girls are photogenic), but it's unlikely they'll have a nice modest and soothing attitude to match. In fact, ok looking girls in the industry these days are fare more likely to realize they're pretty and in demand, and develop a rather uppity attitude.
Maybe my taste is unusual; the scene these days is surely better for punters who like crude tattoos, bad nosejobs, and those god-awful drawn eyebrows (many normal girls have them these days too). To be honest, I'm not that pickyWell your taste is probably not so unusual for me, it is well known I hate bad nose jobs and bad tits jobs, just tolerate all the tats, and I also don't like very sharp narrow eyebrows drawn on, or excessively long silly eyelashes, and very silly hairdos. I can find broader eyebrows to look sexy. Yes I probably went for the girl next door look too, as long as they were well above average, slim, and slimmer face rather than round or square. I definitely got more and more picky. Some of girls in my old photos I would not pick in the modern day, as just too average looking.
Thai girls liked me better back in 1991 too. Younger, tall, easier to please, nice guy, and even spoke Thai very badly, but hindered by bad manners. Takes quite a time to learn good Thai style manners. I look more like a grumpy old man these days, for sure.
You're right that even in the heyday, very few working girls were real stunners. However, many had a certain simple girl-next-door attractiveness and Thai charm, which is exceedingly rare among working girls these days (if it exists at all). Moreover, you could find a fair number of such attractive girl-next-door types on every corner of lower Sukhumvit at night. Maybe my taste is unusual; the scene these days is surely better for punters who like crude tattoos, bad nosejobs, and those god-awful drawn eyebrows (many normal girls have them these days too). To be honest, I'm not that picky, I'd go for an average looking Thai girl on the Skytrain (in the literal sense of "average", not as a euphemism for "ugly" but unfortunately, crude and filthy looks are an instant turnoff.
It might still be possible to find a sex worker in their 20's who looks physically ok (especially fine in photos, some girls are photogenic), but it's unlikely they'll have a nice modest and soothing attitude to match. In fact, ok looking girls in the industry these days are fare more likely to realize they're pretty and in demand, and develop a rather uppity attitude.Back in the day, most were thin. Very few really fat gals. That has changed. Attitudes and expectations were different for sure. And there were just far more of them. And less punters. In addition, most punters at the time were like minded. Far fewer one off tourist types.
Beijing4987
05-23-19, 03:00
What are the alternatives, not that Thailand is finished for the average punter?
What are the alternatives, not that Thailand is finished for the average punter?How much money do you have? Lots of option open if you're willing to pony up far more cash than what it costs in Thailand. How cheap the scene is is one of the major things that made it this type of destination.
After an astonishingly bad few minutes in SW where I called off a session because the gal refused to kiss among other issues (gal now no longer working there, which was a good decision on her part), I decided to head to Tulip. Saw Ferry in the lineup and pulled the trigger. Ferry is pure filth. If she was a bit better looking, was a bit less toothy with the BJ, and baby free, she would be a regular. She loves sex, talks about how much she craves different cocks, likes to be spanked, enjoys being done in every hole, and just revels in everything sexual. A bonus is she is actually under 30, which is rare for a Tulip gal at present. A throwback to the old days when all the gals at Tulip, Mango, and SW were similar.
Saw Ferry in the lineup and pulled the trigger.Ferry? Does not strike me as a likely Thai name. Even a little more strange than Benz (which is a popular name that Thais can't pronounce)! Ha ha.
After an astonishingly bad few minutes in SW where I called off a session because the gal refused to kiss among other issues (gal now no longer working there, which was a good decision on her part), I decided to head to Tulip. Saw Ferry in the lineup and pulled the trigger. Ferry is pure filth. If she was a bit better looking, was a bit less toothy with the BJ, and baby free, she would be a regular. She loves sex, talks about how much she craves different cocks, likes to be spanked, enjoys being done in every hole, and just revels in everything sexual. A bonus is she is actually under 30, which is rare for a Tulip gal at present. A throwback to the old days when all the gals at Tulip, Mango, and SW were similar.Pure filth sounds great to me. I'll need to spend some time with Ferry soon.
After an astonishingly bad few minutes in SW where I called off a session because the gal refused to kiss among other issues (gal now no longer working there, which was a good decision on her part), I decided to head to Tulip. Saw Ferry in the lineup and pulled the trigger. Ferry is pure filth. If she was a bit better looking, was a bit less toothy with the BJ, and baby free, she would be a regular. She loves sex, talks about how much she craves different cocks, likes to be spanked, enjoys being done in every hole, and just revels in everything sexual. A bonus is she is actually under 30, which is rare for a Tulip gal at present. A throwback to the old days when all the gals at Tulip, Mango, and SW were similar.+1 for Ferry.
I had her in a Threesome with Golf around Christmas. I initially took Golf and Nadear but when I asked her, Nadear said she was not really up for an anal PSE session. I sent Nadear back and Ferry was sent up instead. Ferry rocked my world.
+1 for Ferry.
I had her in a Threesome with Golf around Christmas. I initially took Golf and Nadear but when I asked her, Nadear said she was not really up for an anal PSE session. I sent Nadear back and Ferry was sent up instead. Ferry rocked my world.How's Ferry physically? I'm sure she's no beauty but even if she's just average appearance and average body, with the pure filth aspect, that's good enough for me. As long as she's not fugly and scarred up.
How's Ferry physically? I'm sure she's no beauty but even if she's just average appearance and average body, with the pure filth aspect, that's good enough for me. As long as she's not fugly and scarred up.I didn't notice any baby damage. Not a spinner but not a fatty either. Lovely big smile. I'd give here a 7/10.
I didn't notice any baby damage. Not a spinner but not a fatty either. Lovely big smile. I'd give here a 7/10.Cool. Thanks.
I didn't notice any baby damage. Not a spinner but not a fatty either. Lovely big smile. I'd give here a 7/10.Absolutely has baby damage and it is quite obvious. Guess it depends on your definition of fatty. I'd say she is a good 7-10 kilos overweight. I'd rate her a 6, just barely above average in looks. Performance is a 8. 5-9 with points deducted for toothy BJ.
Had Golf recently at Tulip. As good as everyone recommended and better looking than I expected for a girl that's been there a long time (apparently?
Anyways, nice PSE time with her. Maybe for a future event take her and another girl, that sounds like a better option than a 2 girl at Eden but with all the same PSE suff.
Absolutely has baby damage and it is quite obvious. Guess it depends on your definition of fatty. I'd say she is a good 7-10 kilos overweight. I'd rate her a 6, just barely above average in looks. Performance is a 8. 5-9 with points deducted for toothy BJ.Got Ferry (I swear they said "Furry" on the phone when I called) booked for Wednesday. Let you all know how it goes. I'm down for a filthy experience.
Ferry is 27 years old (according to her), from Loei, tall at 165 cm, not sure of her weight but around average weight for her height (maybe a kilo or two over), nice ass (she works out), small chest, dark skin and northern Thai features. Not pretty but not ugly neither. She is very soft-spoken and couldn't hear her half the time. She's affectionate with lots of eye contact and deep kisses.
As mentioned previously, she gives a toothy blowjob (and that sucks. Pun intended). Blowjob not particularly deep either. Her blowjob skills were definitely the weakest of her skill set. She seemed (though could easily be acting) to enjoy both DATY and sex in missionary position. Our second round was particularly vigorous. Her pussy is tight and feels great and I nearly bust a nut inside her while on top of her (which is extremely rare for me. I almost always cum from cowgirl or sloppy blowjobs).
I came twice in two hours with her. Which is fine and I left satisfied. Don't think I'll repeat though. She's a Tulip girl and has the right PSE attitude but other girls do it better (especially the BJ). And, surprisingly, I didn't find her dirty or filthy at all. Ying is way dirtier. Leena is way way filthier.
Overall, fine experience but not a superb one. Her age and still reasonably tight pussy being her high points while BJ and soft spokeness being her weakest.
Seniors, do you know what happened to opor? Is she still around or gone? She once accidentally swallowed some and cutely told me. Delicious sperm!
Anyways, is the dao the good old one? Still remember yok.
AssLover945
06-07-19, 20:03
Seniors, do you know what happened to opor? Is she still around or gone? She once accidentally swallowed some and cutely told me. Delicious sperm!
Anyways, is the dao the good old one? Still remember yok.Opor has moved back with her mom and is dating someone (thai).
Doa still in tulip.
Yok married a Korean and has 2 kids from an African guy.
Ferry is 27 years old (according to her), from Loei, tall at 165 cm, not sure of her weight but around average weight for her height (maybe a kilo or two over), nice ass (she works out), I didn't find her dirty or filthy at all.May I ask did you tap her ass?
OrientalLover
06-08-19, 17:37
Seniors, do you know what happened to opor?Opor stop working and move back to Nakhon Phanom.
May I ask did you tap her ass?She is A+ but I did not tap her ass, no. Anal isn't my thing and rarely want it. But it was available. She talked about it.
She is A+ but I did not tap her ass, no. Anal isn't my thing and rarely want it. But it was available. She talked about it.Great Intel.
I appreciate it.
Ferry is 27 years old (according to her), from Loei, tall at 165 cm, not sure of her weight but around average weight for her height (maybe a kilo or two over), nice ass (she works out), small chest, dark skin and northern Thai features. Not pretty but not ugly neither. She is very soft-spoken and couldn't hear her half the time. She's affectionate with lots of eye contact and deep kisses.
As mentioned previously, she gives a toothy blowjob (and that sucks. Pun intended). Blowjob not particularly deep either. Her blowjob skills were definitely the weakest of her skill set. She seemed (though could easily be acting) to enjoy both DATY and sex in missionary position. Our second round was particularly vigorous. Her pussy is tight and feels great and I nearly bust a nut inside her while on top of her (which is extremely rare for me. I almost always cum from cowgirl or sloppy blowjobs).
I came twice in two hours with her. Which is fine and I left satisfied. Don't think I'll repeat though. She's a Tulip girl and has the right PSE attitude but other girls do it better (especially the BJ). And, surprisingly, I didn't find her dirty or filthy at all. Ying is way dirtier. Leena is way way filthier.
Overall, fine experience but not a superb one. Her age and still reasonably tight pussy being her high points while BJ and soft spokeness being her weakest.Fascinating. She was verbal, loud, and filthy with me in the three sessions I've had with her. Far more than Leena or Ying. YMMV. She loves to be spanked.
Fascinating. She was verbal, loud, and filthy with me in the three sessions I've had with her. Far more than Leena or Ying. YMMV. She loves to be spanked.Very interesting. She moaned a fair bit but there was no dirty talk at all. Perhaps she was off her game that day or maybe the chemistry wasn't right. Who knows. I may repeat with her in the future if my other regulars aren't available. Maybe get a different experience then.
Very interesting. She moaned a fair bit but there was no dirty talk at all. Perhaps she was off her game that day or maybe the chemistry wasn't right. Who knows. I may repeat with her in the future if my other regulars aren't available. Maybe get a different experience then.I took Ferry and Golf together back in March. They were both fantastic but Ferry was off the scale. At one stage she her own 4 fingers up her ass. The highlight was having the both bent over and going directly ass to ass to pussy to ass on them. Ferry was very vocal all the way through. I don't know if chemistry comes into it or if it is more abut letting the girl know exactly what you want.
I took Ferry and Golf together back in March. They were both fantastic but Ferry was off the scale. At one stage she her own 4 fingers up her ass. The highlight was having the both bent over and going directly ass to ass to pussy to ass on them. Ferry was very vocal all the way through. I don't know if chemistry comes into it or if it is more abut letting the girl know exactly what you want.I think I've been convinced to try Ferry again. Our session was way more GFE over PSE with (I thought) good GFE chemistry and she made a point of asking me when I would visit her again (to which, I was non-committal). I guess I'll book her for next week and tap that ass and unleash the beast in her.
I took Ferry and Golf together back in March. They were both fantastic but Ferry was off the scale. At one stage she her own 4 fingers up her ass. The highlight was having the both bent over and going directly ass to ass to pussy to ass on them. Ferry was very vocal all the way through. I don't know if chemistry comes into it or if it is more abut letting the girl know exactly what you want.Did you pay extra for the many condoms you had to use, or didn't you use any?
Did you pay extra for the many condoms you had to use, or didn't you use any?I don't do BBFS and bring my own condoms. Pasante is my favourite brand.
I have seen Ferry 2 or 3 times at Tulip last month.
The sessions with her were a good mix of GFE and PSE. She wanted to feel my cum inside her, so I have creampied her pussy and ass.
Any intel on how tall Golf / GOP is? I'm heading there next month and debating on Golf or Ferry. Perhaps have a 3 some On a side note, do either of these girls let you take personal pics of them?
Any intel on how tall Golf / GOP is? I'm heading there next month and debating on Golf or Ferry. Perhaps have a 3 some On a side note, do either of these girls let you take personal pics of them?Haven't got exact heights for you but Ferry is quite tall for a woman while Golf is rather short.
Dropped into tulip yesterday to see faery or nadear. Faery wasn't on so asked for nadear. She was available. She is shorter than I remembered and a little curvier but remains curvy sexy. Definitely turn my head.
Hair is shorter and a few tattoos. It was a nice sexy session. She's lifted her game in the year or so since I last saw her and she's not lost that sexiness. I'm not a fan of stick insects and so for some she's not their choice.
BBBJ, Good ball licking, tasty pussy and very tight in all positions. She always gets me going. No anal but that's fine. She ticks a lot of other boxes for me. Got to get her to think about a proper sliding massage.
Hello fellow mongers,
I'm new to international, after research it looks like I will want to try tulip first. Any estimate on damages or tips I should know about? Thank you in advance.
Hi guys,
I'm new to Bangkok, I saw people say Tulip ladies are on the older side, just wondering how old are they?
I'm OK with late 20's, but MILF is not my taste, should I go there?
Is there any 20's lady here you recommend?
Hello fellow mongers,
I'm new to international, after research it looks like I will want to try tulip first. Any estimate on damages or tips I should know about? Thank you in advance.Rate for the room is 400 baht per hour but you can do 1/2 hour increments as well. So 600 baht for the room for 1 1/2 hours, for example. The "tip" for the girl is a flat 1500 baht but with some caveats. If you go beyond 2 hours (so 800 for the room and 1500 for the girl = 2300 baht), the "tip" is expected to get larger. So 3 hours will not be 1200 for the room and 1500 for the girl = 2700 baht. They will negotiate for the girl's price. One time I asked for 3 hours with Golf and they quoted 4600 baht (double price over 2 hours). I said "What? You want double price for one extra hour?" They then tried to negotiate down but I had a bad taste in my mouth and refused. Ended up taking a different girl for 2 hours and had a great time.
And the 1500 baht tip is standard and flat but minimum. Some people pay more for the 2300 standard total for 2 hours depending on how good a time you had. Just don't write it down here and inflate the prices for us locals!
Last word is that you should probably phone Tulip to book whatever girl you got your intentions set on. It sucks to show up there and the girl you want is not available. Have fun.
Thank you so much for the detailed tip. Reason I ask is I don't want to inflate. . And also thanks for the tip on calling and booking, I will read the thread further to see who I should book for a first time. Maybe I'll have enough time for multiple girls and rate them.
Rate for the room is 400 baht per hour but you can do 1/2 hour increments as well. So 600 baht for the room for 1 1/2 hours, for example. The "tip" for the girl is a flat 1500 baht but with some caveats. If you go beyond 2 hours (so 800 for the room and 1500 for the girl = 2300 baht), the "tip" is expected to get larger. So 3 hours will not be 1200 for the room and 1500 for the girl = 2700 baht. They will negotiate for the girl's price. One time I asked for 3 hours with Golf and they quoted 4600 baht (double price over 2 hours). I said "What? You want double price for one extra hour?" They then tried to negotiate down but I had a bad taste in my mouth and refused. Ended up taking a different girl for 2 hours and had a great time.
And the 1500 baht tip is standard and flat but minimum. Some people pay more for the 2300 standard total for 2 hours depending on how good a time you had. Just don't write it down here and inflate the prices for us locals!
Last word is that you should probably phone Tulip to book whatever girl you got your intentions set on. It sucks to show up there and the girl you want is not available. Have fun.
I'm OK with late 20's, but MILF is not my taste, should I go there?
You better stay away from Tulip. Go to shop like Doki, Doki or Mitu or Yorimichu.
You better stay away from Tulip. Go to shop like Doki, Doki or Mitu or Yorimichu.Would you say that is the same rate as user posted below? Also is it PSE like Tulip? Thanks.
Hi guys,
I'm new to Bangkok, I saw people say Tulip ladies are on the older side, just wondering how old are they?
I'm OK with late 20's, but MILF is not my taste, should I go there?
Is there any 20's lady here you recommend?Average age of Tulip girls is late 30's or early 40's. Definitely not the place to go for youth or, to be honest, looks. At best Tulip girls are average looking. At worst, scary as fuck.
However, you won't find a nastier fuck in Bangkok. They'll teach you more than you can know (to quote an old song). Just turn the lights real low and enjoy.
Thank you so much for the detailed tip. Reason I ask is I don't want to inflate. . And also thanks for the tip on calling and booking, I will read the thread further to see who I should book for a first time. Maybe I'll have enough time for multiple girls and rate them.Please do. Write up some honest reports after visiting there. All good info benefits us all. My very first post here was a report of my first time at Tulip. Must have been 13 years old.
Which one? And how does she look?Hi guys!
I'm interested too in that woman who works in New Som's Heaven.
Any info would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
Average age of Tulip girls is late 30's or early 40's. Definitely not the place to go for youth or, to be honest, looks. At best Tulip girls are average looking. At worst, scary as fuck.
However, you won't find a nastier fuck in Bangkok. They'll teach you more than you can know (to quote an old song). Just turn the lights real low and enjoy.Geez. Turn lights real low? They can't be that bad.
Would you say that is the same rate as user posted below? Also is it PSE like Tulip? Thanks.Should be a little bit pricier. AFAIK it's not PSE, but YYMV as usual. Just expect "normal" sex with younger girls.
Geez. Turn lights real low? They can't be that bad.Ratings are so subjective. One man's diamond is anothers trash. Just drop by one day and judge for yourself.
Geez. Turn lights real low? They can't be that bad.Uh, yes they can. Almost all the women in Tulip are well past their "sell by date. " I'd guess the average age is mid to late 30's. Shame as it's the only place to get a gal who really performs. If punters were more demanding at other places, we might have better service everywhere.
Uh, yes they can. Almost all the women in Tulip are well past their "sell by date. " I'd guess the average age is mid to late 30's. Shame as it's the only place to get a gal who really performs. If punters were more demanding at other places, we might have better service everywhere.Isn't that why we all go to yard sales? Digging through other trash to find a hidden gem?
Uh, yes they can. Almost all the women in Tulip are well past their "sell by date. " I'd guess the average age is mid to late 30's. Shame as it's the only place to get a gal who really performs.It helps some that Thai ladies tend to look younger than their biological age.
No sure what all the fuss is about. The Tulip ladies are basically average looking Thai MILFS who are 'doable' and have outsized appeal because of their raunchy behavior. If you line them up, one should appeal more to you than the others. Or just choose the one who smiles the most and makes eye contact with you. Or just go with one of the ladies recommended on this forum. We are renting and not buying after all.
SL.
Well after not getting my Skype to work to make a call and book, I decided to Yolo it and just went, I just went in with the mentality if I didn't have this forum and just went. Greeted at door and asked for 1.5 hrs. Got a lady named "nice".
She's mid to late 30's if I were to guess, not terrible looking with all things considering. Nice big ol funbags, pretty sure fake, but done decently job. Also about 5"4 give or take, I would say height wise, a little flub in the belly area but again, going in randomly I wasn't expecting much, its doable. Nice junk in the trunk area, just about a perfect amount for me.
Now I've never experienced anything like this, and she starts right away after the clothes are off with BBBJ, then asks to get in the shower. In the shower she washes me down while paying attention to the boys.
Before we are even dried off she's backing into me for doggy bb, didn't even really have time to react, but at this point I'm honestly not even thinking. First session done early kinda quickly guess I was just excited.
She immediately goes back to BBBJ while I lay down, knows how to prop my feet on her thighs so that she controls the angle of my body, props me up for some rimming. She then 69, I didn't DATY but was allowed to anal finger, which after awhile she wanted me to assume doggy position but for anal. After awhile we are back to missionary to end round 2.
She tried to get me to go 3 but I just couldn't, as she worked hard, so she just did a light massage for time.
Overall a great experience when you look past strictly looks and all that. I don't know if I have time to do another visit with booking, or if I even have the stam for it LOL, even though I'm fairly young at around mid 30's, its definitely exhausting if you're not use to it.
Thank you all for suggesting.
It helps some that Thai ladies tend to look younger than their biological age.
No sure what all the fuss is about. The Tulip ladies are basically average looking Thai MILFS who are 'doable' and have outsized appeal because of their raunchy behavior. If you line them up, one should appeal more to you than the others. Or just choose the one who smiles the most and makes eye contact with you. Or just go with one of the ladies recommended on this forum. We are renting and not buying after all.
SL.Well, not sure I'm on board with that. It's gotten to the point at Tulip where right after I pop and look down I think, ugh. I want to look down and see a hottie gargling with my emission not a 35 year old whose best days are well behind her.
Well, not sure I'm on board with that. It's gotten to the point at Tulip where right after I pop and look down I think, ugh. I want to look down and see a hottie gargling with my emission not a 35 year old whose best days are well behind her.Doggy anal all day. LOL 😂. At least that way you look down and see nice ass jiggling as you pound away.
Tulip does have amazing service though. No disputing that.
Doggy anal all day. LOL 😂. At least that way you look down and see nice ass jiggling as you pound away.
Tulip does have amazing service though. No disputing that.Agreed! But when she turns around and has a head like a Rottweiler, that's a pecker wilter.
Full report tomorrow but for now, holy fuck. That was amazing. Came 4 times in 3 hours with my superb provider. 3 times from cowgirl and one from blowjob. After cumming each time, my dick stayed at half mast and was ready to go, hard as a rock, when she was. ED pills fucking rock!
For my first time trying ED pills, I wanted a three hour session at Tulip (expecting to be hard for 3 or more hours and not wanting to leave the shop with a stiffy on public transportation). I asked Ying if she was up for 3 hours and she was (though she admitted that 3 hour sessions are rare). Most guys do 90 minutes. Even 2 hours isn't so common. I took about 30 MG of Kamagra about 20 minutes before the session started. Being the first time taking ED pills, I wasn't so sure about the dosage and the timing so yesterday was largely an experiment.
I booked her from 2. 00 - 5. 00 yesterday afternoon. Tulip recently got new uniforms for the ladies wherein cleavage is tumbling out the top and the bottom barely covers their ass. Would be super hot on hot ladies but this is Tulip so.
Anyway, I explored Ying's new outfit when we got in the room and removed her panties, sucked a bit on her asshole and pussy before she left (minus panties) to get her kit. She was back in a few minutes and I straight down to business. Ate her out for a few minutes before slipping inside her for missionary. Moved on to doggy standing over the bed. I asked for her ass at that point and she lubed up and put it in. Personally, I don't feel much from anal and prefer a moist, tight pussy a lot more but I appreciate that it's on offer.
We went at it for around 20 minutes in various positions until Ying sat on me cowgirl style and fucked me exactly how she knows I like it and typically need it to cum. First load shot in her pussy and pretty much no different from a normal session with her. The Kamagra hadn't yet kicked in.
We showered and Ying hadn't eaten yet so she ate a sandwich and drank an energy drink. She was stroking my dick while eating and we were both happy to see that the Kamagra finally started to work as my dick, 10 minutes after cumming, was hard as a rock and it normally takes around an hour before I'm good to go for round 2.
Ying gave me an excellent blowjob before climbing on top and cowgirling me again. Often in previous sessions, my dick would lose rigidity during the fuck making achieving orgasm difficult but not an issue today. I came again in her pussy. Both shots achieved before the one hour mark.
I was "na daeng " (flushed) from the pill or from the exertions so Ying wanted to slow down (even though my dick remained hard even after the second cum) and she gave me a massage for 20 - 30 minutes while we talked. Around 1 hour 30 minutes into the session, I asked her for another blowjob and I wanted to cum in her mouth. She expertly set to the task with the exact correct combination of spit, sucking, stroking and jerking until I exploded in her mouth. Cumming was getting a tad painful at this point.
She spit out the cum over my dick and balls and massaged my cum into my skin down there.
Round 4 started around the 2 hour mark. I guess Ying was feeling left out because I was doing all the cumming and not her so she wanted to orgasm. She climbed on board for cowgirl again and fucked deeply for a while until she slipped my cock out of her pussy and put it in her ass. She demanded that I fuck her ass "strong and fast", which, of course, I obliged. Slamming into her ass, she started to squirt all over my stomach. Squirting finished, she put my cock back in her pussy and rode me until I came for the 4th time. I howled as I came due to how painful it was.
Around the 2 hour 40 minute mark, we attempted round 5 but the Kamagra had worn off by then and my dick was well asleep and no coaxing was going to make any difference. Shower, dress and leave.
Concerning the ED stuff: First time for me ever taking any ED pills in my life. 30 MG of Kamagra. It took about 1 hour to kick in. I was rock hard for 2 hours. No loss of sensitivity. No side effects other than being flushed. All in all, well impressed. An excellent test and excellent time with Ying.
Crocodilexp
07-11-19, 07:40
For my first time trying ED pills, I wanted a three hour session at Tulip (expecting to be hard for 3 or more hours and not wanting to leave the shop with a stiffy on public transportation). I asked Ying if she was up for 3 hours and she was (though she admitted that 3 hour sessions are rare). Most guys do 90 minutes. Even 2 hours isn't so common. How much did you pay for the 3 hour session?
I'm curious since it's technically not on the menu. Listed prices are 1900 for 1 h min, 2100 for 1. 5 h and 2300 for 2 h.
She climbed on board for cowgirl again and fucked deeply for a while until she slipped my cock out of her pussy and put it in her ass. She demanded that I fuck her ass "strong and fast", which, of course, I obliged. Slamming into her ass, she started to squirt all over my stomach. Squirting finished, she put my cock back in her pussy and rode me until I came for the 4th time.
That's Ying's trademark move, never fails to impress me.
How much did you pay for the 3 hour session?
I'm curious since it's technically not on the menu. Listed prices are 1900 for 1 h min, 2100 for 1. 5 h and 2300 for 2 h.1200 for the room and I paid Ying quite well. Not kissing and telling on how much I paid her though.
Whilst I was in Bangkok I also spent time with dow. Whilst she presented well in civil clothing and her service was filth PSE level, I think she's a let down after nadears body. I won't repeat. I'm hooked on nadears body ND service.
She wanted to feel my cum inside her, so I have creampied her pussy and ass.I'm glad to hear that chivalry is not dead.
Isn't that why we all go to yard sales? Digging through other trash to find a hidden gem?Yes, but at a yard sale digging through the trash has no cost. You only buy when you find that gem.
It helps some that Thai ladies tend to look younger than their biological age.
No sure what all the fuss is about. The Tulip ladies are basically average looking Thai MILFS who are 'doable' and have outsized appeal because of their raunchy behavior. If you line them up, one should appeal more to you than the others. Or just choose the one who smiles the most and makes eye contact with you. Or just go with one of the ladies recommended on this forum. We are renting and not buying after all.
SL.Average? I would say below average. Many of these gals have been working there for over 10 years, and they were decent looking 10 years ago when they were in their mid 20's to early 30's. I actually stopped going to Tulip for quiet a few years after Mango and Snow opened as they offered the same PSE service with younger better looking mainly baby free gals, but that was 10 years ago as well. As Nadea told me a few months ago, she just can't get good looking gals and if she does happen upon one, they don't last. Technology has changed, the punters have changed, and as a result, the gals have changed. Yes, that's what it "is" but that doesn't mean we have to like it or celebrate it. I certainly won't.
Whilst I was in Bangkok I also spent time with dow. Whilst she presented well in civil clothing and her service was filth PSE level, I think she's a let down after nadears body. I won't repeat. I'm hooked on nadears body ND service.When Dow first went to work, before the baby, she had a pretty rocking body, and gave (and still does) one of the best BBBJs of any oily gal. IMHO, only Tom / Min and Pim were as good. I still like as session every now and then, but she certainly has expanded. Have had two sessions with Nadear. Agree that she has a nice body, but not quite filthy enough for my liking.
Good time with Ferry this afternoon. Second time seeing her. She upped the filth factor, especially with the dirty talk. Girl has got an inventive vocabulary on her. And I guess she was criticized about her blowjob skills recently because it was a lot less toothy than the previous session with her. Still not perfect but better than before. All in all, good times. I, unfortunately, took a higher dosage of Kamagra than I should have and it was a marathon trying to cum. But Ferry was a trooper and we worked up a hell of a sweat. She earned her tip, that's for sure. Still experimenting with the correct dosage so it's trial and error. Poor girls.
Gladiator69
08-06-19, 13:49
Debating between Nadear and Ferry in my next trip in a couple of weeks. They both seems to be younger than the rest of the lineup. Nadear is not very PSE and said to be shy but great body (who's shy in Tulip? And Ferry's blowjob skill is said to be toothy but also filthy. Who's better in the look department? Nadear or Ferry? Do they both BBFS? Thanks in advanced.
Debating between Nadear and Ferry in my next trip in a couple of weeks. They both seems to be younger than the rest of the lineup. Nadear is not very PSE and said to be shy but great body (who's shy in Tulip? And Ferry's blowjob skill is said to be toothy but also filthy. Who's better in the look department? Nadear or Ferry? Do they both BBFS? Thanks in advanced.Had them both together last week. Nadear doesn't do anal. Big big issue for me and she's a bit overweight. All Tulips girls do anal. I think Ferry has a much better body and face. She has lovely dark skin, amazing legs, big ass. Tits small but perfectly shaped with tiny nipples. She does have stretch marks on her tummy but her tummy is actually quite toned. Her headjob is really good, not toothy at all. She must've improved her game and she could almost deep-throat me but I'm not too long. She's very passionate, very service oriented and is genuinely horny.
I don't know what the guys are complaining about her face. She's got a real horny fuck me kind of face and is pretty in a girl next door kind of way. If she walked pass you in the streets in a tight dressed your head would turn. She is the new Opor for me. Definitely the pick of Tulips and a real gem.
Hey guys, I am visiting Bangkok for the first time and it is going to be a short trip. I do have time to visit Tulip once though. I just want to know what are the cost damages there. Do you pay the girl inside or just on the counter? And how much?
Thanks.
Hey guys, I am visiting Bangkok for the first time and it is going to be a short trip. I do have time to visit Tulip once though. I just want to know what are the cost damages there. Do you pay the girl inside or just on the counter? And how much?
Thanks.Is it so hard to take 5 min of your time to read the contributions from other members whom already gave some of their time to report on this place?
Your question about the price is already answered within 10 posts below on the same page.
Is it so hard to take 5 min of your time to read the contributions from other members whom already gave some of their time to report on this place?
Your question about the price is already answered within 10 posts below on the same page.Sorry guys. Will check out the FRs.
DarqNiteRises
08-14-19, 11:18
So I'm trying Viagra and Kamagra for the first time and need advice on how to use? Can you tell me your experience? I bought both of them in the middle of the street.
I'm also visiting Tulip tomorrow and was hoping you could recommend who is the nastiest of the bunch. I was planning to take either Ying, Ferry or Golf.
Crocodilexp
08-14-19, 22:45
So I'm trying Viagra and Kamagra for the first time and need advice on how to use? They have the same active ingredient. If you're taking it for recreational purposes (don't actually have erectile dysfunction), take 50 MG about 40 min before intercourse. For me, it doesn't work as well after a large meal, so avoid that.
I'm also visiting Tulip tomorrow and was hoping you could recommend who is the nastiest of the bunch. I was planning to take either Ying, Ferry or Golf.Ying is my favorite, but I guess you can check out the lineup and pick one by the looks. If A+ (anal) is your thing, ask ahead of time, during the lineup. It shouldn't be strictly necessary at Tulip (certainly not with the stars), but these days you never know.
You shouldn't use Viagra and Kamagra if you don't have ED. Do you wake up in the morning with a hard on? You don't need it.
Viagra and Kamagra are bad for hearts. If you have any sort of heart disease in the family, that stuff could kill you. Research it.
As far as nasty goes, I would have to give that to Golf or June. I think June might be the one that is the nastiest. Ying is absolutely awesome but she is not super into [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) games.
So I'm trying Viagra and Kamagra for the first time and need advice on how to use? Can you tell me your experience? I bought both of them in the middle of the street.
I'm also visiting Tulip tomorrow and was hoping you could recommend who is the nastiest of the bunch. I was planning to take either Ying, Ferry or Golf.
Hello,
Sharing a good recent experience with June. From a previous session with her, I asked her whether she would consider a session with 2 guys or more, to which she said yes. I contacted her again recently and asked if she could come to hotel for a group session. 1 hour later she arrives then got surprised to see me and 2 other friends in the room but then started to relax and chat. After she showered, she got on her knees and started to suck all of us. What followed after was a period of hard and fast fucking, me and my friends taking turns for a pussy and ass. June was a star with no barred holes at any point in time. The pinnacle was a series of double penetration which she took like a champion. Classic facial cumshot to conclude. Rested for 20 minutes or so before round 2.
June is not the most best looking but hell, I love her holes and she enjoyed the session.
I start visiting Tulip since Tom's time, still keep in touch with her, and glad to know she just gave birth to a baby girl, marry a Korean. I tried few of their stars after that, but slowly visiting other shops due to more younger girls there.
Last week I was in BKK again, decided to re visit Tulip. As usual, took BTS till Thong Lo, and walked in around 2. 30 pm. The guy cashier collected 2100 b for 90 mins then showed me about 8-9 girls available sitting in the small room. I saw a familiar face smiling at me, Dow, I chose her and she lead me to the room upstairs. The session as good as before until I booked her for overnight again.
Next day, I met an ex Tulip girl at my hotel, she quit Tulip but we still meet whenever I in Bkk. When we back to the hotel room, she asked me did I go Tulip recently, because her ex colleague told her there is a young girl 27 yo failed the blood test and left 2 -3 weeks ago. If I said yes she may want to use condom because worried I on of the girl's customer.
Will be in BKK again next month and hopefully can meet squirt queen Leena then. (read from forum about her but dint try before).
I start visiting Tulip since Tom's time, still keep in touch with her, and glad to know she just gave birth to a baby girl, marry a Korean. I tried few of their stars after that, but slowly visiting other shops due to more younger girls there.Tom / Min was one of my favorites. Great skill set, wonderful attitude, and a nice gal. She was one of my very few regulars. Glad she is doing well, but dang, I was always hoping she would come back to work in BKK!
Agreed.
But it's pretty much based on hearsay and conjecture. Almost all the girls here bareback and bareback anal is not out of the question. So who knows the true story. The sad thing is the conjecture can be utterly wrong and useless but it's stuck now. In Australia we say mud sticks.
There are many people especially thai women with an axe to grind. Thai women thrive on gossip and are chronic liars.
Sad for the girl if this is true but not really surprising considering some reports here.
BBFS is already not smart but BBAnal is just asking for it...
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Agreed.
But it's pretty much based on hearsay and conjecture. Almost all the girls here bareback and bareback anal is not out of the question. So who knows the true story. The sad thing is the conjecture can be utterly wrong and useless but it's stuck now. In Australia we say mud sticks.
There are many people especially thai women with an axe to grind. Thai women thrive on gossip and are chronic liars.Ferry told me that she was going to Korea after she quit and I haven't heard from here since. There were hardly any customers at all for the 2 weeks I was there. Hope she is alright.
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I'm intrigued. As far as I know only cupid is financially related to tulip. Keep us posted. Also I think cherry doesn't have girls who offer BBFS so not sure how it impacts them. Keep the board posted.Tulip, Cupid and Snow White are all connected. Cherry is not directly connected but shares a customer base and former girls from the other PSE shops.
Bareback is available everywhere. The onus is on you to protect yourself. I bet some of the guys who were bragging about barebacking Ferry and gangbanging Ferry are shitting bricks now.👀
The point about cherry still makes no sense to me. Why would they care about one girl at tulip when she hasn't worked at cherry ever. If she is positive it's terrible news for her. But I'm sceptical mainly because of the source ie an ex tulip thai woman. And thai women are shocking gossips and liars.
I think the points are valid about sociopathic behavior and ND the onus is on you to protect yourself.
Tulip, Cupid and Snow White are all connected. Cherry is not directly connected but shares a customer base and former girls from the other PSE shops.
Bareback is available everywhere. The onus is on you to protect yourself. I bet some of the guys who were bragging about barebacking Ferry and gangbanging Ferry are shitting bricks now.👀
The point about cherry still makes no sense to me. Why would they care about one girl at tulip when she hasn't worked at cherry ever. Like I said, the customer base is shared and there are girls at Cherry who worked at tulip and Snow White before. So if someone at any of those shops test positive then they'll all hear about it. It's a teachable moment.
I've fucked girls in all of those shops and how they know intimate details of what I've done with other girls in other shops is quite amusing.
Its far too circumstantial evidence. Agreed we will never know. Agreed with everything you've and others said about protecting oneself.
But I sincerely doubt management at cherry care except getting more customers.
Like I said, the customer base is shared and there are girls at Cherry who worked at tulip and Snow White before. So if someone at any of those shops test positive then they'll all hear about it. It's a teachable moment.
I've fucked girls in all of those shops and how they know intimate details of what I've done with other girls in other shops is quite amusing.
MarksusSex
08-21-19, 13:37
I just spoke with Ferry, she says none of this is true and that she is trying (somehow) to mitigate this story. She thinks that the folks where she worked prior to her leaving are purposely trying to screw her reputation (no pun intended. '
I just spoke with Ferry, she says none of this is true and that she is trying (somehow) to mitigate this story. She thinks that the folks where she worked prior to her leaving are purposely trying to screw her reputation (no pun intended. 'The plot thickens.
KenLoh! Invite me next time! June is so nasty.
Crocodilexp
08-22-19, 22:51
I just spoke with Ferry, she says none of this is true and that she is trying (somehow) to mitigate this story.
Who to believe? If she intends to continue working (or even if not), of course she'd deny it.
I don't think random people online would have a strong motivation to sully her name. Why would they? She sure provided great service! But of course, there are all sorts of psychopaths out there.
Thai women are full of petty jealousies. It takes one anon in love with some ex-wl to fall hook line and sinker and parrot said jealousies online. Mud sticks.
Who to believe? If she intends to continue working (or even if not), of course she'd deny it.
I don't think random people online would have a strong motivation to sully her name. Why would they? She sure provided great service! But of course, there are all sorts of psychopaths out there.
Thai women are full of petty jealousies. It takes one anon in love with some ex-wl to fall hook line and sinker and parrot said jealousies online. Mud sticks.Yep. Perhaps regulars of other gals were migrating to Ferry because she is younger. Average age at Tulip has to be close to 40.
One famous ex-Boss gal says she left Boss due in part to jealousy amongst other gals. She was always busy because her service was great and she had a good attitude. Other gals resented her for it and wanted her to scale back her service. Even said the mamasan was steering customers away from her.
Who to believe? On this sort of issue, no-one on ISG that's for sure.
Franciscass
08-23-19, 04:37
Yep. Perhaps regulars of other gals were migrating to Ferry because she is younger. Average age at Tulip has to be close to 40.
One famous ex-Boss gal says she left Boss due in part to jealousy amongst other gals. She was always busy because her service was great and she had a good attitude. Other gals resented her for it and wanted her to scale back her service. Even said the mamasan was steering customers away from her.Very true. Within most shops with a lot of girls cliques form and sometimes create a less then happy work environment. These can be along the lines of newer girls versus older providers who have known each other for years. It can be popular more successful girls versus less popular less successful. In some shops management have a policy that after a certain number of customers a girl will sit out appearing in line ups and only take specified bookings. As you mention a girl who is making a lot more than her peers may find herself a victim of jealousy and resentment and find it so toxic that she leaves. I have known more than one. Like a lot of what goes on in business it is down to management. You need only look at Nina's style and the off the charts success she has made of Doki Doki on how to run a shop.
Crocodilexp
08-23-19, 22:38
Thai women are full of petty jealousies. It takes one anon in love with some ex-wl to fall hook line and sinker and parrot said jealousies online. Mud sticks.True, lots of petty squabbling, but spreading rumors of someone being HIV+ is the nuclear option. It ruins that person's life (especially if they're a working girl), drags business down for everyone across multiple venues, and retaliation in kind is also likely.
True, lots of petty squabbling, but spreading rumors of someone being HIV+ is the nuclear option. It ruins that person's life (especially if they're a working girl), drags business down for everyone across multiple venues, and retaliation in kind is also likely.Especially when the girl has already left the shop. It makes no sense for the girls remaining at the shop to do a fake story of that kind as they are the ones whom will suffer financialy from it, not the girl supposed to have left for Korea.
Especially when the girl has already left the shop. It makes no sense for the girls remaining at the shop to do a fake story of that kind as they are the ones whom will suffer financialy from it, not the girl supposed to have left for Korea.You'd be surprised how petty gals can be.
I haven't been in relationships with many women outside of my own culture but I'll say this, thai women are totally dysfunctional. The last one I fucked yelled at me because she thought I thought she was easy. Except she's married, she brought lingerie to meet me at my hotel and she sucked me off the first time we met.
You'd be surprised how petty gals can be.
I haven't been in relationships with many women outside of my own culture but I'll say this, thai women are totally dysfunctional. {Snip}More accurate information has never been posted on ISG. This is SO true and every player should remember this advice.
Egy's post on the "except Tulip and Annie's" thread indicated that BBBJ was refused at both Mango and SW. In addition payment was required up front. When refused BBBJ one gal said, "HIV," which would lend some credibility to the possibility that there was a "meeting" as discussed in this thread.
It would be interesting to know if BBBJ is being refused at Tulip. Considering the age of the providers at Tulip, any drop in service standards would surely cause a big drop in business.
So whose been in the last few days?
Crocodilexp
08-25-19, 02:24
Egy's post on the "except Tulip and Annie's" thread indicated that BBBJ was refused at both Mango and SW. In addition payment was required up front.Awful news. Refusing BBBJs sounds pretty much like the end of the PSE places. Maybe the current HIV scare will pass, but once they so dramatically lower service standards, there is not much hope for turning back. Even if a show somehow goes back to giving BBBJs, for a long time they'll be known as a "maybe PSE if you're lucky" place, rather than a known PSE place.
Asking for payment in advance is a logical move, nobody in their right mind would pay for a no-BBBJ session at a place like Mango or SW.
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So whose been in the last few days?Guilty as charged. I've been to Tulip a couple of times in the last few days.
I can report that BBBJ was still a standard part of the service. But they know me and YMMV of course. We need more evidence from casual walk-ins and not regulars perhaps.
Awful news. Refusing BBBJs sounds pretty much like the end of the PSE places. Maybe the current HIV scare will pass, but once they so dramatically lower service standards, there is not much hope for turning back. Even if a show somehow goes back to giving BBBJs, for a long time they'll be known as a "maybe PSE if you're lucky" place, rather than a known PSE place.
Asking for payment in advance is a logical move, nobody in their right mind would pay for a no-BBBJ session at a place like Mango or SW.With rare exception, Thai P4P girls in the bars, shops, clubs, street, online, you name it are at the very least well informed enough about the risk of contracting HIV to know a BBBJ+CIM is not a factor, much less a mere BBBJ. The PSE shops where Anal is on the menu would surely be even better informed about these things than most. Or ought to be.
If a girl in one of those shops told me that is why she won't give me a BBBJ, I would probably assume it was just a lame but handy excuse for not automatically providing it when the real reason was any of the usual, such as she just doesn't feel like doing it for me or her jaw is sore from doing it so much already that day.
And, yeah I'll be the one to bring this up. It will be interesting to see if the whole rumored scenario about an unnamed girl who is no longer around to be questioned failing her blood test was setting up a premise to add BBBJ among the items that will henceforth be charged an additional fee. You know, because it is so "dangerous" and all.
It wouldn't be the first time Thailand's P4P industry seized upon such a premise in order to create a two-tier, three-tier or more pricing system and give everyone a pay raise for now itemized services that used to be included as standard for one price.
My last visit to SW was around 9 days ago. It was fine. They did ask for payment upfront and BBBJ was given, in shower and throughout the session. Vag and anal covered sex. But that was around the beginning of the current "scare" so things seem to be a bit different at the moment.
Who to believe? If she intends to continue working (or even if not), of course she'd deny it.
I don't think random people online would have a strong motivation to sully her name. Why would they? She sure provided great service! But of course, there are all sorts of psychopaths out there.There old saying "believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see with own eyes". For anonymous posters, believe even less. Some can invent stuff.
People maybe be honest if there is no possible motive for the bullshit, but how to know the motivation? Many times posters are merely passing on rumours heard from someone else rather than factual events that occurred. Once a story passes several persons, it has become grossly distorted too.
ISG is just stories, tall tales and true stories too. We can never understand really well if we were not present.
There old saying "believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see with own eyes". For anonymous posters, believe even less. Some can invent stuff.
People maybe be honest if there is no possible motive for the bullshit, but how to know the motivation? Many times posters are merely passing on rumours heard from someone else rather than factual events that occurred. Once a story passes several persons, it has become grossly distorted too.
ISG is just stories, tall tales and true stories too. We can never understand really well if we were not present.Agreed. There's always the possibility of hidden motivations or agendas behind any post. Praising a shop or a girl because one is invested in their success? Criticizing a different shop or girl for the same reason.
Impossible to parse between the well intentioned and the ill.
Dropped by Tulip this afternoon and rolled the dice on who was available. No one I wanted but I stayed and chose Janet. My first clue (which I stupidly ignored) was when I requested a 2 hour session, she countered with "1 hour half dai mai?" The counter lady said 2 hours as I requested.
Janet was polite but cold. Didn't even touch me till the shower. Barely touched me there as well.
On the bed, she kissed her way up my body but pulled away when I tried to kiss her. Her blowjob, while skillful, was interrupted every 30 seconds so she could spit into tissue.
I was hard only because of the Kamagra I took. Before condom on, she warned me to go "bow bow" because her pussy was small. Years and years and thousands of guys and small pussy. Sure. I laid down like a plank of wood and let her ride me until I came. Got up, showered and walked out. 40 minutes. Paid 1900 baht for one hour.
Waste of money and a perfectly good erection.
Dropped by Tulip this afternoon and rolled the dice on who was available. No one I wanted but I stayed and chose Janet. My first clue (which I stupidly ignored) was when I requested a 2 hour session, she countered with "1 hour half dai mai?" The counter lady said 2 hours as I requested.
Janet was polite but cold. Didn't even touch me till the shower. Barely touched me there as well.
On the bed, she kissed her way up my body but pulled away when I tried to kiss her. Her blowjob, while skillful, was interrupted every 30 seconds so she could spit into tissue.
I was hard only because of the Kamagra I took. Before condom on, she warned me to go "bow bow" because her pussy was small. Years and years and thousands of guys and small pussy. Sure. I laid down like a plank of wood and let her ride me until I came. Got up, showered and walked out. 40 minutes. Paid 1900 baht for one hour.
Waste of money and a perfectly good erection.More or less sums up what happen to me as well last week with her as well. Told me anal was not an option. Manage to go 3 rounds with her (God bless Kamagra), with the last round was in her ass. Quite pissed off with myself, because only after fucking her, did I remember that I had her before and got the same BS from her. Live and learn, I guess (if I remember to avoid her in the line up).
More or less sums up what happen to me as well last week with her as well. Told me anal was not an option. Manage to go 3 rounds with her (God bless Kamagra), with the last round was in her ass. Quite pissed off with myself, because only after fucking her, did I remember that I had her before and got the same BS from her. Live and learn, I guess (if I remember to avoid her in the line up).Good to know it's a pattern. Other guys don't need to waste their time and money. Hope she's an anomaly and not a trend. If Tulip goes downhill, PSE is dead in Bangkok.
VivaMattyVegas
08-30-19, 11:38
Tulip's appears to be down the road from where I'll be staying in November and it has me intrigued because BBBJ and anal seem to be normal here. But I'm also reading many lately saying things have changed. Do people see this as temporary due to a failed blood test by one of the girls or does it feel like the change is permanent?
1900 baht for an hour is a fair price if everything talked about is included, but I don't want to go there and feel let down because it no longer exists.
June, Ying, Golf (Gop), Leena. That is all you have to remember. I have experienced them all several times and two of them together. Ying and Gop together was amazing. (See previous post).
I am going to try Dow and Nadear next.
Treat these women with respect guys. If you try to get them off first, they go off the hook. It is awesome.
My only bad experience was Jenny. I haven't seen her name listed in a little while so maybe she got let go. Horrible service one time. Tried to pass herself off as Golf another. I caught her on the way up the stairs because she doesn't have that Phat Ass that Golf has. Golf has a slender waste that goes out seductively.
I am back in town and was wondering whether anyone knows of any women who are lactating or 7-8 pregnant? It is a bucket list thing. Please help. LOL.
PantherShield1
08-30-19, 22:36
Dropped by Tulip this afternoon and rolled the dice on who was available. No one I wanted but I stayed and chose Janet. My first clue (which I stupidly ignored) was when I requested a 2 hour session, she countered with "1 hour half dai mai?" The counter lady said 2 hours as I requested.
Janet was polite but cold. Didn't even touch me till the shower. Barely touched me there as well.
On the bed, she kissed her way up my body but pulled away when I tried to kiss her. Her blowjob, while skillful, was interrupted every 30 seconds so she could spit into tissue.
I was hard only because of the Kamagra I took. Before condom on, she warned me to go "bow bow" because her pussy was small. Years and years and thousands of guys and small pussy. Sure. I laid down like a plank of wood and let her ride me until I came. Got up, showered and walked out. 40 minutes. Paid 1900 baht for one hour.
Waste of money and a perfectly good erection.I'm surprised to hear that. Janet is one of my favourite ladies there and I saw her last in May.
She DFK me in the shower and on the bed, rimmed and gave me a good BJ. She even sucked on my toes LOL. Maybe you caught her on a bad day.
I'm surprised to hear that. Janet is one of my favourite ladies there and I saw her last in May.
She DFK me in the shower and on the bed, rimmed and gave me a good BJ. She even sucked on my toes LOL. Maybe you caught her on a bad day.Reaper78 and a couple of people who sent me privates messages about Janet confirms it wasn't a bad day. It's a pattern. Maybe she's having a bad 4 months?
I was hard only because of the Kamagra I took. Before condom on, she warned me to go "bow bow" because her pussy was small. Years and years and thousands of guys and small pussy. Sure.I don't doubt that her service was poor.
A couple of points though, which should be generally well known I think, by experienced mongers.
Size of girls pussy varies a lot. There are super tight girls and very loose ones. Length of vagina can be only 4 to 5 inches before it stretches. Uterus is usually only about 4 inches in at most.
A girl that fucks several times a day can still have a tight pussy. Having a baby tends to make pussy larger (does not necessarily shrink back to normal), however some mothers have a tight pussy, and some non-mothers do not. Generally mothers are easier for me, as less likely to have an ultra small pussy and less likely to be dick scared.
Despite a girl having a very small pussy, fortunately it stretches to take various sized dicks (and capable of passing a baby). Girls that have just been fucking maybe partly pre-stretched. Ha ha. Yes girls that have not fucked recently can take more time to stretch. Even hookers just returned from holidays can seem more horny than usual (cum quicker or cum when usually don't).
It is possible for a girl that fucks a lot to still have a small pussy, however it should stretch easily, providing she relaxes properly. I find girls with very stiff legs to be almost unfuckable. A girl can make it easy or make it very difficult.
However it is normal for the stretching to be gradual, and therefore is not great for a big dick to pound a small pussy immediately.
So "Bao Bao" (gently please) is not an unreasonable request. Take it slowly / gently at first to give the pussy a chance to stretch. After 5 to 10 minutes of fucking, or maybe less, the stretching may have occurred fully.
It is not unusual for girls to be suffering from bruised or inflamed uterus due to receiving a pounding straight on it from a hard dick previously. Girls can be suffering uterus pain for extended periods.
When they are getting pounded daily. Some girls have to take a month or two off to try to recover. Others may still try to be working if they think the damage is not too severe.
A request to take it gently is not that unreasonable. Whether she thinks her pussy is small or not is psychological and not very relevant. She has not had a dick inside lots of other girls so maybe she would not be well informed on this topic. So yeh, Janet may well not have a small pussy by normal standards. Nearly all girls think their pussy is small. Every pussy starts smaller than a 6 inch dick before stretching. Porn stars like John Holmes (in the distant past) might have had an 8 to 9 inch dick (obviously on video no where near as long as the myths claimed) but he would not be able to get the full dick into a normal pussy I think. It would be difficult to stretch from 4 inches to 9 inches. Some girls including porn stars stuff their pussy with a sponge to prevent full penetration and in some cases to try to prevent pounding on the uterus. This makes the girl a lousy fuck due to poor penetration and poor pussy feel. Maybe only girls that do fisting would admit their pussy is large or very stretchy. Ha ha.
Overall it sounds like Janet has problems, maybe related to pussy damage or pain maybe not, and is not coping that well. It sounds like would be better for her to take time off. Off course girls may need the money, and she may not be the right look to go get easier customers at the Thermae instead. Some girls stuff pussy with a sponge to try to alleviate damage and pain. I encounter this quite frequently (insert a finger can find the sponge easily), more than 1 in every 10 girls. A very good option for girls is sometimes to work in a BJ shop and give the poor pussy a rest. Of course some girls are bad at BJs or really hate doing CIM too. Doing umpteen BJs a day for low money per BJ may not seem worthwhile to plenty of girls, but if they are not good looking, the options are limited. Some girls are not really cut out to be hookers.
If the girl doesn't really want to kiss any more for all customers, I agree she is in the wrong place. She may be in a fearful mood all the time.
I am back in town and was wondering whether anyone knows of any women who are lactating or 7-8 pregnant? It is a bucket list thing. Please help. LOL.A bit weird to want a baby to be in there. Many girls this far gone are not in good condition to fuck.
I have certainly done lactating girls a few times, in each case after the delivery I think. Good to have the tits big and milk full, before they shrink to sag bags. However the draw back is girls that recently gave birth can have extra loose pussy. Seems that the pussy takes time to come back to normal or as normal as possible, or maybe never will if doctor did not stitch them up to right size.
I met lactating girls on Soi 4 and occasionally in a bar or MP. I think on the street is a good source, especially if you are going to have to ask many if they are lactating.
Somewhat over rated really other than just having big full tits. Drinking the milk is not that exciting. Being squirted by the milk could be regarded as fun.
However I don't think fucking a girl with baby very soon to pop out is a good idea at all. It could even induce the birth. Maybe taking just a BJ and tit fucking would be safer.
I don't doubt that her service was poor.
A couple of points though, which should be generally well known I think, by experienced mongers.
Size of girls pussy varies a lot. There are super tight girls and very loose ones. Length of vagina can be only 4 to 5 inches before it stretches. Uterus is usually only about 4 inches in at most.
A girl that fucks several times a day can still have a tight pussy. Having a baby tends to make pussy larger (does not necessarily shrink back to normal), however some mothers have a tight pussy, and some non-mothers do not. Generally mothers are easier for me, as less likely to have an ultra small pussy and less likely to be dick scared.
Despite a girl having a very small pussy, fortunately it stretches to take various sized dicks (and capable of passing a baby). Girls that have just been fucking maybe partly pre-stretched. Ha ha. Yes girls that have not fucked recently can take more time to stretch. Even hookers just returned from holidays can seem more horny than usual (cum quicker or cum when usually don't).
It is possible for a girl that fucks a lot to still have a small pussy, however it should stretch easily, providing she relaxes properly. I find girls with very stiff legs to be almost unfuckable. A girl can make it easy or make it very difficult.
However it is normal for the stretching to be gradual, and therefore is not great for a big dick to pound a small pussy immediately.
So "Bao Bao" (gently please) is not an unreasonable request. Take it slowly / gently at first to give the pussy a chance to stretch. After 5 to 10 minutes of fucking, or maybe less, the stretching may have occurred fully.
It is not unusual for girls to be suffering from bruised or inflamed uterus due to receiving a pounding straight on it from a hard dick previously. Girls can be suffering uterus pain for extended periods.
When they are getting pounded daily. Some girls have to take a month or two off to try to recover. Others may still try to be working if they think the damage is not too severe.
A request to take it gently is not that unreasonable. Whether she thinks her pussy is small or not is psychological and not very relevant. She has not had a dick inside lots of other girls so maybe she would not be well informed on this topic. So yeh, Janet may well not have a small pussy by normal standards. Nearly all girls think their pussy is small. Every pussy starts smaller than a 6 inch dick before stretching. Porn stars like John Holmes (in the distant past) might have had an 8 to 9 inch dick (obviously on video no where near as long as the myths claimed) but he would not be able to get the full dick into a normal pussy I think. It would be difficult to stretch from 4 inches to 9 inches. Some girls including porn stars stuff their pussy with a sponge to prevent full penetration and in some cases to try to prevent pounding on the uterus. This makes the girl a lousy fuck due to poor penetration and poor pussy feel. Maybe only girls that do fisting would admit their pussy is large or very stretchy. Ha ha.
Overall it sounds like Janet has problems, maybe related to pussy damage or pain maybe not, and is not coping that well. It sounds like would be better for her to take time off. Off course girls may need the money, and she may not be the right look to go get easier customers at the Thermae instead. Some girls stuff pussy with a sponge to try to alleviate damage and pain. I encounter this quite frequently (insert a finger can find the sponge easily), more than 1 in every 10 girls. A very good option for girls is sometimes to work in a BJ shop and give the poor pussy a rest. Of course some girls are bad at BJs or really hate doing CIM too. Doing umpteen BJs a day for low money per BJ may not seem worthwhile to plenty of girls, but if they are not good looking, the options are limited. Some girls are not really cut out to be hookers.
If the girl doesn't really want to kiss any more for all customers, I agree she is in the wrong place. She may be in a fearful mood all the time.It was her attitude, coldness and straight up vibes of "I don't want to be in the same room as this guy" that led me to not believe her "small pussy" story. In other circumstances, I would (and have been) very accommodating when a lady told me that her pussy was too small for my dick or painful for whatever reason. Take it as slow and gently as she needed it to be. No problem there.
A bit weird to want a baby to be in there. Many girls this far gone are not in good condition to fuck.
I have certainly done lactating girls a few times, in each case after the delivery I think. Good to have the tits big and milk full, before they shrink to sag bags. However the draw back is girls that recently gave birth can have extra loose pussy. Seems that the pussy takes time to come back to normal or as normal as possible, or maybe never will if doctor did not stitch them up to right size.
I met lactating girls on Soi 4 and occasionally in a bar or MP. I think on the street is a good source, especially if you are going to have to ask many if they are lactating.
Somewhat over rated really other than just having big full tits. Drinking the milk is not that exciting. Being squirted by the milk could be regarded as fun.
However I don't think fucking a girl with baby very soon to pop out is a good idea at all. It could even induce the birth. Maybe taking just a BJ and tit fucking would be safer.And how does that answer the question?
VivaMattyVegas
09-01-19, 16:47
1) Does Tulip's have a LINE or a website? Would love to see the photos of the ladies that are spoken about so highly here.
2) This place seems to be what I'm looking for. But what I'm wondering is do they only do BBBJ or will they do BBFS and / or bbanal?
Thanks in advance.
MarksusSex
09-01-19, 19:01
And how does that answer the question?It's a question that should be answered within either an 8 week period in the case of a 7 month preggo girl or 4 weeks (tops) of an 8 month preggo lass. FFS, what's the expectation? A web link?
The OP should to be proactive and plan ahead (7 months to be precise) get someone pregnant and return to the Big Mango 30 weeks later.
Crocodilexp
09-02-19, 01:38
1) Does Tulip's have a LINE or a website? Would love to see the photos of the ladies that are spoken about so highly here.No. No site, no Line for the shop (they only have a phone number). Individual girls could give you their LINE account if you ask them.
The women at Tulip aren't lookers. You wouldn't be impressed with the photos, if any existed and were not heavily photoshopped.
Ying is probably the best looking of the bunch (in my view), but almost 40, and to give you the idea of the approximate category, I've seen plenty of cleaning ladies in Thailand that look better. She's great in bed, though, with an amazing attitude.
2) This place seems to be what I'm looking for. But what I'm wondering is do they only do BBBJ or will they do BBFS and / or bbanal?Officially, no shop does BBFS or BBA+ as a matter of policy. Some of the popular providers at Tulip do it with some of their regulars, but I'm not sure how much luck you'd have first time For the sake of everyone's safety I like to think they'd refuse, but maybe they won't.
BBA+ is a high-risk activity for HIV transmission, and according to a recent rumor, one of the Tulip girls tested positive recently.
VivaMattyVegas
09-02-19, 07:08
Thank you for all the information. Yes, I imagine there are much more attractive women around Bangkok, but what gets my attention about this place is the service factor. I could go to Thermae or other places around BKK and pay 3 x the price and not get what I would get at Tulip.
No. No site, no Line for the shop (they only have a phone number). Individual girls could give you their LINE account if you ask them.
The women at Tulip aren't lookers. You wouldn't be impressed with the photos, if any existed and were not heavily photoshopped.
Ying is probably the best looking of the bunch (in my view), but almost 40, and to give you the idea of the approximate category, I've seen plenty of cleaning ladies in Thailand that look better. She's great in bed, though, with an amazing attitude.
Officially, no shop does BBFS or BBA+ as a matter of policy. Some of the popular providers at Tulip do it with some of their regulars, but I'm not sure how much luck you'd have first time For the sake of everyone's safety I like to think they'd refuse, but maybe they won't.
BBA+ is a high-risk activity for HIV transmission, and according to a recent rumor, one of the Tulip girls tested positive recently.
My wife had a friend that wanted to fuck her husband way into her 8th month. She said she was so horny when she was pregnant. Her husband didn't share my kind of needs.
I think a woman that is a PSE style provider is really sexy. A pregnant provider would defintely be a PSE kind of thing. Super Wh ore and I mean that with a lot of respect.
I have only experienced the milk thing twice when I was a wee boy in the glassless peep booths in NYC. I liked it then. I think I would love it now.
I love women with huge loose pussies. One, I fit without any worries and two maybe other things will also like my hand. I have never done that. I have ridiculously sized hands.
Much respect to you, Syzygies. I have read your post before. I hope my post didn't come off disrespectful. I very much respect working women and always want to show them a good time before myself. I find that if you give any woman a good time and especially a P4 P woman, they go all out to get you off and are exited to see you and try new things the next time.
A bit weird to want a baby to be in there. Many girls this far gone are not in good condition to fuck..
Went to Tulip on my maiden visit to Bangkok. The place was not difficult to find and I reached there about 5 PM. As soon as I entered the place the women all ran to the showcasing area. I walked to the counter where a lady quoted THB 1900, which includes 400 for the room. I paid and turned to gaze at the lineup. Immediately my eyes fixated on this buxom girl and I chose her.
She took me to a room and asked if I was thirsty and I asked for a Singha. Her name was Miss L. She brought in the beer and then we had a shower together. She washed me and herself thoroughly, mouthwashed and kept singing all the time. Boy is she crazy about the singing. The whole while she was singing except when I was fucking her. At that time it was a different kind of singing. :P
Took her in mish, WOT and my favourite, prone. BBBJ, rimming and anal were good. I came when fucking her ass and wanted to go a second time with CIM. However, the lady has a gag reflex which kind of put me off. The lady has a fine body and nice boobs with 400 CC implants.
I am impressed by Tulip and would want to visit again. I have no idea when that would happen.
Rate card:
BBBJ 7/10.
Main Deed 8/10.
Anal 8/10.
PSE 8/10.
WIR: Yes. Maybe will even try the same girl again.
Walked out early for the second time in less than a week. This time it was with June who is reported as being one of the best and nastiest performers there. But I got the same Janet treatment as I got from last week. Constant spitting, reluctance to kiss or receive DATY and, after the first shot, she said that she didn't have any more condoms my size so no more fucking but she'the give me a handjob instead. I got up, paid her the absolute minimum for the time I was there and walked out while she was still dressing.
Two possibilities that I can think of: 1) Tulip is going through some safety scare and the PSE nature we expect from Tulip has gone down the drain. 2) A lady working there who hates me because I chose other ladies over her has poisoned the staff against me. Sounds paranoid but it matches the situation to me. June was gone for a good 15 minutes after she brought me up to the room, much longer than normal. Perhaps getting a pep talk downstairs about giving this customer a shit experience so he doesn't come back.
Mission accomplished.
Walked out early for the second time in less than a week. This time it was with June who is reported as being one of the best and nastiest performers there. But I got the same Janet treatment as I got from last week. Constant spitting, reluctance to kiss or receive DATY and, after the first shot, she said that she didn't have any more condoms my size so no more fucking but she'the give me a handjob instead. I got up, paid her the absolute minimum for the time I was there and walked out while she was still dressing.
Two possibilities that I can think of: 1) Tulip is going through some safety scare and the PSE nature we expect from Tulip has gone down the drain. 2) A lady working there who hates me because I chose other ladies over her has poisoned the staff against me. Sounds paranoid but it matches the situation to me. June was gone for a good 15 minutes after she brought me up to the room, much longer than normal. Perhaps getting a pep talk downstairs about giving this customer a shit experience so he doesn't come back.
Mission accomplished.Sounds like someone poisoned the well for you. My guess is #2 would be spot on. If the case, that's not a good thing for a place like Tulip where jealousy has never been an issue. I'm not sure Saeng would be in any way OK with that.
Walked out early for the second time in less than a week. This time it was with June who is reported as being one of the best and nastiest performers there. But I got the same Janet treatment as I got from last week. Constant spitting, reluctance to kiss or receive DATY and, after the first shot, she said that she didn't have any more condoms my size so no more fucking but she'the give me a handjob instead. I got up, paid her the absolute minimum for the time I was there and walked out while she was still dressing.
Two possibilities that I can think of: 1) Tulip is going through some safety scare and the PSE nature we expect from Tulip has gone down the drain. 2) A lady working there who hates me because I chose other ladies over her has poisoned the staff against me. Sounds paranoid but it matches the situation to me. June was gone for a good 15 minutes after she brought me up to the room, much longer than normal. Perhaps getting a pep talk downstairs about giving this customer a shit experience so he doesn't come back.
Mission accomplished.I would rather choose option #1, as the recent incident served as a reminder of the risks involved.
Take this with a grain of salt as liars are everywhere but I did ask June about the Ferry situation stating that the internet has two theories: one that she is HIV positive and get fired from Tulip and the second that she was driven out from Tulip by jealous older women who hated the fact that Ferry was popular and got a lot of customers. June said a couple of things. She said that in all her time working at Tulip, no woman there has ever been HIV positive. She went on about the regular testing at reputable hospitals and that some women use drugs to prevent HIV (like PEP). She knows that HIV rumors come out of Tulip but she never worries about them because they are not true. Additionally she said that a lot of women working at Tulip resented Ferry (she didn't give any names nor include herself) because she was young and got a lot of customers while older (uglier) women sit around all day and nary a man wants them.
If June is to be believed, there is no HIV scare at Tulip (at least, not from the women's point of view) and Ferry was driven out by jealous older hags.
So I'm going with option #2 related to my recent horrible experiences at Tulip. Guess I need to wait for a particular person to stop working there before it becomes a viable option as an establishment to visit.There you have it. What a shame if true. A younger gal who performed run out by jealous old hags. Amd what a terrible rumor to start about someone. Never would have happened if Saeng was doing the day to day methinks.
There you have it. What a shame if true. A younger gal who performed run out by jealous old hags. Amd what a terrible rumor to start about someone. Never would have happened if Saeng was doing the day to day methinks.Don't forget the anonymous who parrotted the rumour online. It is almost always untrue.
There you have it. What a shame if true. A younger gal who performed run out by jealous old hags. Amd what a terrible rumor to start about someone. Never would have happened if Saeng was doing the day to day methinks.Regardless, if I'm going to get mediocre service now, I may as well go to a shop where the girls are young and pretty.
1. Helicopter View:
The over-painted, cerise pink clad, superannuated 20 is now 19. Big deal. Shit happens. People leave these places all the time. Reasons why are sometimes industry specific, sometimes mundanely generic.
Customers didn't like, customers liked too much, staff didn't like, too popular, not popular enough, good for the business, bad for the business, not positive enough in some ways, not negative enough in others.
The true reason will never be explained here, just rumor, speculation, spin,' fake nooze' and self-centered comment (including this one).
As British politicians have been saying every day for the last 3 years: 'it is what it is'. Get on with it.
2. Deep Dive:
There is a changed SOP among several in cerise this last number of weeks straddling the exit.
It is probably a reinforcing of the company line, another part of the 'shit-on her shoes' process, or is it?. Best to be sure, etc. , etc. The 19 know us very well. Regulars or semi-regulars, those living here and frequent fliers. It is not an organized database. Much better than that. A network of Thai feminine wiliness and cunning, a self preservation society and chatter exchange.
They know and share our in-room missions, our in-room omissions, and the location of our in-room emissions. They know how long we stay and with whom, in shop and outside. How much we pay and tip. They know who likes vanilla and who likes spicy. The missionaries and the bare naked backdoor bedroom ballets. They know the nice guys and the assholes.
They know who spent time with 20 and how often and where and when. And how. They adjust their procedures accordingly. Just in case. A simplistic (Dr Googol) safety approach is to avoid or limit extraneous body fluid contact with mucosal membranes. Hence the spitting (only reasonable when you consider the quantity of some guys' exudates), the lack of tongues in mouths, pussies and asses. The rigid adherence to latex. Very understandable in my mind, especially where the customer base is equally ignorant and not exactly 'always doing the right thing'.
A reaction to a storm warning if you like, batten down the hatches for now and this too will pass. Normal service will resume.
I managed to meet this lovely lady a few years ago when she was working at Cherry Massage. Unfortunately she left before I had the chance to see her again. Does anyone knows if she's still working somewhere?
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I managed to meet this lovely lady a few years ago when she was working at Cherry Massage. Unfortunately she left before I had the chance to see her again. Does anyone knows if she's still working somewhere?I doubt it. I did not call her for a while (on LINE), however I believe someone posted that she found a new man a while back (Asian). Probably was time to start a new life. Hope she chose well this time, instead of blindly taking a partner in a big rush the first time.
Hey guys,
I've been lurking on here for a while and decided to post a report since I got the location and all information from this thread and went there first time a few days ago. Everything was exactly as described. I paid for 2 hours for 2300 baht, and picked one of the girls. I think it was Nadear and she said she was about 30. Anyways, took me upstairs and I used the restroom on the way up. I was also quite nervous but I kind of knew what to expect after reading the reports here. She sat me down and was gone for about 10 minutes and returned with her oil and stuff. We showered where she cleaned me and then the next 1. 5 hours was more like GFE rather then the PSE. They do give BBBJ still in case you guys were wondering. Since I am new to the scene, it was mostly vanilla stuff.
I will say one thing that I was disappointed by. First, I paid for 2 hours and after my first pop she went back to massage and then I felt she wanted to leave. After about 10-15 minutes, I was like let's just relax and she talked for 5 minutes and then left. So I still had 30 minutes left on the clock and next time I will pay for only 90 minute session. But everything else, she did what I wanted which was mostly kissing, BJ, and straight sex. I tipped her 200 baht.
I called them but no one will answer the phone. Looking for Ying or June. I'll do a walk-in and will report back if experience is any different from someone else.
Hey guys,
I've been lurking on here for a while and decided to post a report since I got the location and all information from this thread and went there first time a few days ago. Everything was exactly as described. I paid for 2 hours for 2300 baht, and picked one of the girls. I think it was Nadear and she said she was about 30. Anyways, took me upstairs and I used the restroom on the way up. I was also quite nervous but I kind of knew what to expect after reading the reports here. She sat me down and was gone for about 10 minutes and returned with her oil and stuff. We showered where she cleaned me and then the next 1. 5 hours was more like GFE rather then the PSE. They do give BBBJ still in case you guys were wondering. Since I am new to the scene, it was mostly vanilla stuff.
I will say one thing that I was disappointed by. First, I paid for 2 hours and after my first pop she went back to massage and then I felt she wanted to leave. After about 10-15 minutes, I was like let's just relax and she talked for 5 minutes and then left. So I still had 30 minutes left on the clock and next time I will pay for only 90 minute session. But everything else, she did what I wanted which was mostly kissing, BJ, and straight sex. I tipped her 200 baht.
I called them but no one will answer the phone. Looking for Ying or June. I'll do a walk-in and will report back if experience is any different from someone else.Just an update, I went and was Yings first customer. She speaks decent English and from the very start until the end, she didn't disappoint. I booked 90 minutes with her when in hindsight I should of booked the full 2 hours. She have really decent massage too. She was trying to get me to pop more and more even at the end but I didn't have the stamina. Truly a nymph, don't hesitate to book her for the PSE experience. I plan on booking her again when I come back go Bangkok.
Tulip is known for thick-bodied providers who are willing to go the extra mile to compensate for their plain looks. Most are over 40. The younger ones are fat. The line-up resembles a provocatively-dressed bread queue in the former Soviet Union and is a truly sight to behold.
I'm no spring chicken myself so a slim, well-preserved, pre-menopausal woman in the twilight of her career is quite acceptable to me so long as she is friendly and performs adequately.
Tulip used to deliver on this modest goal but that was some time ago. I hope it returns to form one day. In the meantime, I took Ying who falls into the young but fat category. Ying is much sought-after due to being a genuine nymphomaniac (hallelujah!) and a very good lay. She is always busy. If she lost 10 kilos, I would repeat.
I also made the mistake of taking Janet. When you select the only acceptable face from a line-up of gorgons, this is the risk that you take. As her smile faded, she took to me with all the enthusiasm of a prisoner dragged from her cell for interrogation and things went rapidly downhill from there.
I check out Tulip for new talent once every couple of months but normally leave without making a purchase.
I got a bacterial infection [Deleted by Admin]. Probably not Gonorrhea since the discharge from my cock was clear and fluid, rather than thick and yellowish. Don't know her name unfortunately. While it can be treated with antibiotics, these bacteria become increasingly resistant. I'm quite worried about the fact that these kind of infections are happening to me a lot more these days as compared to my first four years in Thailand many years ago (I think I had exactly one Gonorrhea from an Eastern European hooker during 2008-2012 but probably ten bacterial infections during the last two years, mostly from non-pro dating site gals though).
HIV test was negative fortunately.
On the strength of the many positive reviews on this site, I called into Tulip to evaluate June for myself. Not knowing what she looked like, I didn't book ahead. Instead, I addressed the lineup and asked June to identify herself.
She has a wicked smile and a seductive manner but June is both larger and older than I had anticipated. I just couldn't go through with it. People talk about June like she's got a stash of leprechaun's gold hidden up her ring-piece but IMHO only the most intrepid should go there to dig it up.
On the strength of the many positive reviews on this site, I called into Tulip to evaluate June for myself. Not knowing what she looked like, I didn't book ahead. Instead, I addressed the lineup and asked June to identify herself.
She has a wicked smile and a seductive manner but June is both larger and older than I had anticipated. I just couldn't go through with it. People talk about June like she's got a stash of leprechaun's gold hidden up her ring-piece but IMHO only the most intrepid should go there to dig it up.I agree, the sacrifice in terms of look is too big.
Ann has a relatively pretty face, nice round tits, and a fair dose of goodwill when it comes to Tulip's classics.
I also made the mistake of taking Janet. When you select the only acceptable face from a line-up of gorgons, this is the risk that you take. As her smile faded, she took to me with all the enthusiasm of a prisoner dragged from her cell for interrogation and things went rapidly downhill from there.You do wax poetic. I think most of us can relate to the picture you paint. Good stuff.
Ann has a relatively pretty face, nice round tits, and a fair dose of goodwill when it comes to Tulip's classics.Thanks Telnitz. I will check Ann out when I visit Tulip next time.
I got a bacterial infection Probably not Gonorrhea since the discharge from my cock was clear and fluid, rather than thick and yellowish. Don't know her name unfortunately. While it can be treated with antibiotics, these bacteria become increasingly resistant. I'm quite worried about the fact that these kind of infections are happening to me a lot more these days as compared to my first four years in Thailand many years ago (I think I had exactly one Gonorrhea from an Eastern European hooker during 2008-2012 but probably ten bacterial infections during the last two years, mostly from non-pro dating site gals though).
HIV test was negative fortunately.Bacterial infections are easy to catch, for working girls or non working girls maybe even more so. Pretty amazing you caught 10 of them during last 2 years. Clearly you are not concerned about it, so great, no big deal. Other guys claim to never have got one despite barebacking regularly with many girls. Are they lying or just fucking lucky?
Are they really on the increase? I am not too sure. Maybe people are getting more complacent, with big drop in HIV frequency of new cases.
I got a bacterial infection.If a working girl offers me BBFS, I'll check on the condom before finishing what I started but this is the kiss of death for our long-term relationship. I've been known to perform a little cunnilingus on clean, condom-aware girls who respond positively to it but only a cum-gargling fool would adopt this strategy in Tulip.
Bacterial infections are easy to catch, for working girls or non working girls maybe even more so. Pretty amazing you caught 10 of them during last 2 years. Clearly you are not concerned about it, so great, no big deal. Other guys claim to never have got one despite barebacking regularly with many girls. Are they lying or just fucking lucky?
Are they really on the increase? I am not too sure. Maybe people are getting more complacent, with big drop in HIV frequency of new cases.I can only judge by my own experience. Based on that, the increase is significant. I used to live in Thailand four years from 2008-2012 and now two years again. During the first four years I fucked way more pros than non-pros but caught only one Gonorrhea. I now fuck almost only non-pros and the odd pro every once in a while but am catching way more bacterial infections. So yes, I am concerned about resistance against antibiotics.
If a working girl offers me BBFS, I'll check on the condom before finishing what I started but this is the kiss of death for our long-term relationship. I've been known to perform a little cunnilingus on clean, condom-aware girls who respond positively to it but only a cum-gargling fool would adopt this strategy in Tulip.I like to try to be a girl's first customer for the day, but unless you can be certain of this, you are likely kidding yourself if you think you can be sure which girls have recently had cum in them or not.
If a girl is not good at cleaning then you can smell whatever bad things have been there (assuming nose works well like mine). If she is good at cleaning, you will never know.
Performing oral on a girl is not a dangerous activity. So it's merely about if she smells and tastes nice. I did not go down on ex Farang wife because she failed the smell and taste test. Had thrush a lot and was poor at cleaning. Bad diet too.
Some hookers insist on condoms but you never know if they make exceptions for "special" customers. Then there is the Thai BF.
I like to try to be a girl's first customer for the day, but unless you can be certain of this, you are likely kidding yourself if you think you can be sure which girls have recently had cum in them or not.Agreed. Some guys apparently use a dental dam but I suspect that they would also leave the polythene bag on their new sofa.
I got a bacterial infection. Probably not Gonorrhea since the discharge from my cock was clear and fluid, rather than thick and yellowish. Don't know her name unfortunately. While it can be treated with antibiotics, these bacteria become increasingly resistant. I'm quite worried about the fact that these kind of infections are happening to me a lot more these days as compared to my first four years in Thailand many years ago (I think I had exactly one Gonorrhea from an Eastern European hooker during 2008-2012 but probably ten bacterial infections during the last two years, mostly from non-pro dating site gals though).
HIV test was negative fortunately.A huge number of Thais are infected with fun stuff like mycoplasma and other things that low end unequipped backward doctors don't test for. You will know when you have gonorrhea, lots of discharge and very painful. There's no mistaken it. But lots of other stuff people don't take seriously or even know about, yet they can cause damage. I recommend getting a NAAT test for mycoplasma and ureaplasma at a real hospital that knows what they are doing.
Don't mind the internet physicians. Thailand has some of the highest STD rates in the world, and Asia is the center of antibiotic resistant STIs.
A huge number of Thais are infected with fun stuff like mycoplasma and other things that low end unequipped backward doctors don't test for. You will know when you have gonorrhea, lots of discharge and very painful. There's no mistaken it. But lots of other stuff people don't take seriously or even know about, yet they can damage. I recommend getting a NAAT test for mycoplasma and ureaplasma at a real hospital that knows what they are doing.Yes, must've been one of those other bacterial infections that aren't Gonorrhea or Chlamydia. Did a test for both at an STD clinic and turned out to be negative. So must be one of the others. Only did the NAAT test at the hospital after taking antibiotics so don't know what exactly it was.
I like to try to be a girl's first customer for the day, but unless you can be certain of this, you are likely kidding yourself if you think you can be sure which girls have recently had cum in them or not.
If a girl is not good at cleaning then you can smell whatever bad things have been there (assuming nose works well like mine). If she is good at cleaning, you will never know.
Performing oral on a girl is not a dangerous activity. So it's merely about if she smells and tastes nice. I did not go down on ex Farang wife because she failed the smell and taste test. Had thrush a lot and was poor at cleaning. Bad diet too.
Some hookers insist on condoms but you never know if they make exceptions for "special" customers. Then there is the Thai BF.I get to see your disgusting posts at breakfast, thanks. Do you have anything else to do but come here and discuss stanky snatch?
AssLover945
09-22-19, 04:52
I managed to meet this lovely lady a few years ago when she was working at Cherry Massage. Unfortunately she left before I had the chance to see her again. Does anyone knows if she's still working somewhere?She is married with 2 kids now.
She is married with 2 kids now. Yeh back in the province. I don't have any more detail, but definitely not working any longer. Did not hear much detailed personal stuff recently, other than on this forum (which could be distorted). Its enough t know she is not available any more. Its 10 years since her Tulip days, and quite a while since was at other shops. It is well known she had twins a few years back.
Nothing new here. Has been posted before if do a search to find it.
All my regulars disappear sooner or later (or at least become taken and unavailable), and usually sooner. Really nice girls can't last too long.
I get to see your disgusting posts at breakfast, thanks. Do you have anything else to do but come here and discuss stanky snatch?Funny you think a post is disgusting when I merely talk about DATY on clean Thai pussy (and being sure by the sniff test). You certainly seem weird man. I am not into anything "disgusting" at all. Not even "nasty" stuff. Hence I am not even motivated to go to Tulip.
Up to you what you read at breakfast time. DATY is such a beautiful thing. Not at all disgusting. Very rarely meet smelly pussy here. I was merely refuting another guy's paranoia about disgusting unclean pussy. I believe girls should know how to clean (if any take CIP). Most of my girls probably do not take CIP often (but I no way I could know for sure).
Any guys scared of unclean pussy should try to be girl's first customer for the day I guess, or try to find a virgin. Ha ha
On the strength of the many positive reviews on this site, I called into Tulip to evaluate June for myself. Not knowing what she looked like, I didn't book ahead. Instead, I addressed the lineup and asked June to identify herself. She has a wicked smile and a seductive manner but June is both larger and older than I had anticipated. I just couldn't go through with it. People talk about June like she's got a stash of leprechaun's gold hidden up her ring-piece but IMHO only the most intrepid should go there to dig it up.Hopefully you didn't make her feel badly because she does have a stash of leprechaun's gold hidden up her ring-piece.
I can only judge by my own experience. Based on that, the increase is significant. I used to live in Thailand four years from 2008-2012 and now two years again. During the first four years I fucked way more pros than non-pros but caught only one Gonorrhea. I now fuck almost only non-pros and the odd pro every once in a while but am catching way more bacterial infections. So yes, I am concerned about resistance against antibiotics.I would guess that the pros have a lot more sex ed than the non pros. They are in a position where older woman can teach them the ropes and outreach programs are talking to them. I have a Thai friend that hands out literature to working girls. She is a genuinely nice woman who doesn't preach. She just wants to help.
Hopefully you didn't make her feel badly because she does have a stash of leprechaun's gold hidden up her ring-piece.June's feelings were not hurt. In a shop like Tulip, where the lineup is not so easy on the eye, I ask all the girls to introduce themselves by name. If one of those names jogs my memory about a recommendation on this forum, I might just go ahead. Otherwise, having now interacted with them all, I can chose the girl with the sunniest disposition.
IAmSlobbyist
10-03-19, 06:30
With all the talk on the forum about the mediocrity of the Tulip girls looks, I thought I would be stuck with an average MILF. This is OK as long as the service is great. I had a 9:45 pm Flight, so Tulip was going to be my last stop and go out with a bang. I just showed up and there were at least 6-8 girls available. One really caught my eye. I thought she said her name was Praw, but looking through the reviews, I only see a mention of Dow, so I guess it could have been Dow.
I thought she was beautiful and just as pretty as any go-go dancer at Soi Cowboy. She was dark skinned and slender with a gorgeous smile and nice breasts. She looked like she was in her 30's, but could have been in her 40's. She said she has worked there for 2 years.
Started off in the shower, and she washed me clean and fingered my ass. I almost blew in the shower. We returned to the room where she rimmed me for several minutes before giving great non-toothy head. She then flipped and we went into 69. I stuck my tongue deep down her ass and glided it up and down her pussy and clit. She was making many pleasurable sounds in between a great BBJ. On comes the condom and we fucked in many positions. I loved it when she was on top. She had this cute smile as she was riding me. No kissing, but enjoyed me licking her neck and ears although I think it tickled her a little too much. I asked if I could give a facial, but she said only on her tits. I ripped the condom off and blew on her tits.
What followed was a prolonged relaxing massage for 45 minutes. The highlight was her sticking her elbow hard into my foot. This felt great as I had done a lot of walking early in the day. Eventually the hard massage turned to soft feathery touches up to the groin.
We then enjoyed round two. Both times she was already wet before I started to work on her pussy. Same type of foreplay including rim, BJ, DATY before I threw her on the bed and just went to town in the missionary position. She creamed on my condom wearing cock before I released into the bag in her pussy. The sex with Praw (Daw) was amazing, and I thought she was beautiful. We definitely clicked in the chemistry department too.
Third time I have been to Thailand and Tulip. Went here in 2005 and 2013 and my trip in 2019 was just as great.
With all the talk on the forum about the mediocrity of the Tulip girls looks, I thought I would be stuck with an average MILF. This is OK as long as the service is great. I had a 9:45 pm Flight, so Tulip was going to be my last stop and go out with a bang. I just showed up and there were at least 6-8 girls available. One really caught my eye. I thought she said her name was Praw, but looking through the reviews, I only see a mention of Dow, so I guess it could have been Dow.Is the original Dao of Tulip still working? A decade has now passed but I still haven't forgotten the humiliating sexual ordeal that she once put me through. You must be describing a different girl. Dao was not pretty but she could make Caligula feel dirty and used.
Your girl sounds like a hottie and I'm surprised that she has lasted two years in the Tulip bear-pit. The old hags tend to gang-up on the pretty ones and they don't stay.
Tulip's HR department should round up the ring-leaders and put them on a final warning. What part of the customer demographic would choose old fuglies who can't perform? They should either open up their Batcaves to the general public or go set up a noodle stall (the beauty parlour is never going to happen).
Is the original Dao of Tulip still working? A decade has now passed but I still haven't forgotten the humiliating sexual ordeal that she once put me through. You must be describing a different girl. Dao was not pretty but she could make Caligula feel dirty and used.
Your girl sounds like a hottie and I'm surprised that she has lasted two years in the Tulip bear-pit. The old hags tend to gang-up on the pretty ones and they don't stay.
Tulip's HR department should round up the ring-leaders and put them on a final warning. What part of the customer demographic would choose old fuglies who can't perform? They should either open up their Batcaves to the general public or go set up a noodle stall (the beauty parlour is never going to happen).Styed with a dao in June 2019. Probably the original and if so a lot of miles on the pussy ass and mouth. Looks better with her clothes on as horrible fake tits. Leena maybe less attractive but comes across as fresher.
Styed with a dao in June 2019. Probably the original and if so a lot of miles on the pussy ass and mouth. Looks better with her clothes on as horrible fake tits. Leena maybe less attractive but comes across as fresher.Ten years ago, Dao's sexual performance was amazing but her skin tone was like a parrot that had lost its feathers. She was a sex-bot with three gaping holes and no discernible personality. When we happened to make eye-contact during the circus sex, she would say "What?" in a bizarrely aggressive manner. She was an absolute nutter. It is extraordinary that she is still working in Tulip after all these years but, on reflection, I can't imagine what else she could possibly do.
One really caught my eye. I thought she said her name was Praw, but looking through the reviews, I only see a mention of Dow, so I guess it could have been Dow.
I thought she was beautiful and just as pretty as any go-go dancer at Soi Cowboy. She was dark skinned and slender with a gorgeous smile and nice breasts. She looked like she was in her 30's, but could have been in her 40's. She said she has worked there for 2 years.
Quite unlikely to be Dao. She has been around for maybe 15 years or more, and not that special looking now. I first did Dao long ago, but last time was not memorable at all. Dao's breasts are not so good any more. Definitely no more repeat for me. Some of us need sleek and pretty. I guess I am merely agreeing with other posters.
I don't know if Tulip has a Praow, but I have met girls with this name before, and also some other slight variations on this name. There is one at Crazy House (not recommended). Praow can be short for Maphraow (Thai for coconut)
IAmSlobbyist
10-06-19, 23:03
Quite unlikely to be Dao. She has been around for maybe 15 years or more, and not that special looking now. I first did Dao long ago, but last time was not memorable at all. Dao's breasts are not so good any more. Definitely no more repeat for me. Some of us need sleek and pretty. I guess I am merely agreeing with other posters.
I don't know if Tulip has a Praow, but I have met girls with this name before, and also some other slight variations on this name. There is one at Crazy House (not recommended). Praow can be short for Maphraow (Thai for coconut)It must have been Praow then. I cannot 100% confirm, but pretty sure that has to be it. Thank you for the info.
Been hanging out reading the forums for some time now. Thought best to provide some reports as I now find myself in need of information on Shanghai.
Here we go. Made my first visit to Tulips about a month ago. On my way out of Thailand back to US for work. Read through a great deal of reports. Confirm that the ladies are a bit more mature and perhaps not the best looking in the business. Can also confirm that performance is exceptional. We'll, exceptional if you are into the PSE. This place isn't for everyone. I struggle with trying to visualize the typical customer.
Called in to book either Golf, Ferry or Leena. Decided on Leena.
Showed up, paid and was escorted to room by Leena. Undressed while Leena was out getting supplies. Rooms are surely run down and I would expect with little inspection that one my find they are also very dirty. Not really an issue as they aren't advertising as a 5 star hotel. Leena came back in and we proceeded to the shower. Fairly uneventful shower. BJ and a lot of rubbing back and forth. Retired to the bed. Leena began with BJ and deep throat. Seemed to rather enjoy or perhaps just accept rough deep throat as common and continued. Vomit, never been down that road. She was very eager to please and continued with deep throat and vomiting. Was taken back by this and somewhat unsure. Felt bad for Leena but she continued. Only complaint she ever had was that she ate smoked salmon for lunch and it was expensive and now she was vomiting it up.
At a point she put condom on and asked for doggy. Sounded good and we continued for a while then she got on top. Asked for anal which I hardly ever decline but my mind was elsewhere thinking about the whole deep throat induced vomiting. I wanted to only finish and get gone.
In short, Tulips and it's ladies are as advertised. The word "no" is probably not spoken often if ever by the ladies. I wanted the PSE, dirty, nasty experience of which I received. However, a bit conflicted then and now.
Sad to hear this. Leena is an absolute professional and she would be very sad to have had this happen.
As it's your first time and review, I'd recommend giving another go either with her or someone else. Golf is high voltage and might do it for you she has an amazing ass when doing anal. Nadear is great too. Young with a curvy sexy body. Leena is as PSE as you can get.
Been hanging out reading the forums for some time now. Thought best to provide some reports as I now find myself in need of information on Shanghai.
Here we go. Made my first visit to Tulips about a month ago. On my way out of Thailand back to US for work. Read through a great deal of reports. Confirm that the ladies are a bit more mature and perhaps not the best looking in the business. Can also confirm that performance is exceptional. We'll, exceptional if you are into the PSE. This place isn't for everyone. I struggle with trying to visualize the typical customer.
Called in to book either Golf, Ferry or Leena. Decided on Leena.
Showed up, paid and was escorted to room by Leena. Undressed while Leena was out getting supplies. Rooms are surely run down and I would expect with little inspection that one my find they are also very dirty. Not really an issue as they aren't advertising as a 5 star hotel. Leena came back in and we proceeded to the shower. Fairly uneventful shower. BJ and a lot of rubbing back and forth. Retired to the bed. Leena began with BJ and deep throat. Seemed to rather enjoy or perhaps just accept rough deep throat as common and continued. Vomit, never been down that road. She was very eager to please and continued with deep throat and vomiting. Was taken back by this and somewhat unsure. Felt bad for Leena but she continued. Only complaint she ever had was that she ate smoked salmon for lunch and it was expensive and now she was vomiting it up.
At a point she put condom on and asked for doggy. Sounded good and we continued for a while then she got on top. Asked for anal which I hardly ever decline but my mind was elsewhere thinking about the whole deep throat induced vomiting. I wanted to only finish and get gone.
In short, Tulips and it's ladies are as advertised. The word "no" is probably not spoken often if ever by the ladies. I wanted the PSE, dirty, nasty experience of which I received. However, a bit conflicted then and now.
Been hanging out reading the forums for some time now. Thought best to provide some reports as I now find myself in need of information on Shanghai.
Here we go. Made my first visit to Tulips about a month ago. On my way out of Thailand back to US for work. Read through a great deal of reports. Confirm that the ladies are a bit more mature and perhaps not the best looking in the business. Can also confirm that performance is exceptional. We'll, exceptional if you are into the PSE. This place isn't for everyone. I struggle with trying to visualize the typical customer.
Called in to book either Golf, Ferry or Leena. Decided on Leena.
Showed up, paid and was escorted to room by Leena. Undressed while Leena was out getting supplies. Rooms are surely run down and I would expect with little inspection that one my find they are also very dirty. Not really an issue as they aren't advertising as a 5 star hotel. Leena came back in and we proceeded to the shower. Fairly uneventful shower. BJ and a lot of rubbing back and forth. Retired to the bed. Leena began with BJ and deep throat. Seemed to rather enjoy or perhaps just accept rough deep throat as common and continued. Vomit, never been down that road. She was very eager to please and continued with deep throat and vomiting. Was taken back by this and somewhat unsure. Felt bad for Leena but she continued. Only complaint she ever had was that she ate smoked salmon for lunch and it was expensive and now she was vomiting it up.Sorry for you, can't imagine what was going through your mind then. Most probably she just finished her lunch, that's why DT caused her vomit.
That's why I never go around lunch time.
I struggle with trying to visualize the typical customer.
Vomit, never been down that road. She was very eager to please and continued with deep throat and vomiting. Was taken back by this and somewhat unsure. Felt bad for Leena but she continued. Only complaint she ever had was that she ate smoked salmon for lunch and it was expensive and now she was vomiting it up.
There is surely no typical customer. Variation must be huge, but all guys looking for extra special service one assumes. Everything from nice guys to assholes and Pyscho nut jobs. Girls have to cope with every variation.
Yes I sympathise for both you and the girl re DT problem. You should have just moved on to something else, as you would if BJ was a bad one, and forget it.
Once had a multi day holiday with a Tulip girl and I reckon we both had a pretty good time. Later that girl invited me to a dinner in Ekkamai with almost the whole Tulip crew. I think I was paying for the food and drink. Ha Ha. Good way to meet the girls. Probably hardly any of those girls are still there. Just over 10 years ago. The overall standard of girls was better back then I think. I liked most of the girls okay Even if did not want to fuck them all. Seem to recall Tina brought along a customer / BF guy as well.
Leena began with BJ and deep throat. Seemed to rather enjoy or perhaps just accept rough deep throat as common and continued. Vomit, never been down that road. She was very eager to please and continued with deep throat and vomiting. This happened with me the last visit. I think she was trying to go super PSE since condoms are being used these days due to the Ferry situation. Some sort of compensation thing. It wasn't my thing either. I have seen it in porno. In person it is even less hot. She asked whether I found it hot. I told her "not really my thing but it was cool that it was a first". I didn't want her to feel badly.
All of the usual BB Queens are using condoms now BTW. One of the Queens got so turned on she jumped on BB, pumped for a minute and then jumped up and got a condom. She smiled at me and said "Safer". I have never seen a condom with her in the past. I told her "Absolutely and thank you for being responsible. " The rumors are probably true. BB is nasty, fun and so wrong but it is very risky for these women and ourselves. Let's all support them in their better life choices.
Sad to hear this. Leena is an absolute professional and she would be very sad to have had this happen.
As it's your first time and review, I'd recommend giving another go either with her or someone else. Golf is high voltage and might do it for you she has an amazing ass when doing anal. Nadear is great too. Young with a curvy sexy body. Leena is as PSE as you can get.Please don't misunderstand. Leena handled the situation very professionally and is a nice woman.
There is surely no typical customer. Variation must be huge, but all guys looking for extra special service one assumes. Everything from nice guys to assholes and Pyscho nut jobs. Girls have to cope with every variation.
Yes I sympathise for both you and the girl re DT problem. You should have just moved on to something else, as you would if BJ was a bad one, and forget it.
Once had a multi day holiday with a Tulip girl and I reckon we both had a pretty good time. Later that girl invited me to a dinner in Ekkamai with almost the whole Tulip crew. I think I was paying for the food and drink. Ha Ha. Good way to meet the girls. Probably hardly any of those girls are still there. Just over 10 years ago. The overall standard of girls was better back then I think. I liked most of the girls okay Even if did not want to fuck them all. Seem to recall Tina brought along a customer / BF guy as well.Agreed. Should have simply moved on. However, I think we were both unsure as neither communicated that this was a bad thing. I thought she liked it, she thought I expected so it continued. In the past now. Will return on my next trip.
Sorry for you, can't imagine what was going through your mind then. Most probably she just finished her lunch, that's why DT caused her vomit.
That's why I never go around lunch time.Sad to say, but I have never actually thought of this when scheduling appointments. Concrete advice.
I was in BKK recently and had a list of providers / venues I wanted to try, and Leena and Ying made the list given the strongly positive reviews they've received on this forum.
I've been to Tulip once awhile back (had Golf), so I knew what to expect in the appearance of the girls. I've never seen Leena or Ying, so my plan was to walk in and see the goods before deciding, instead of booking in advance. I didn't want to take up the girls' slots in case I didn't like what I see and decided to cancel.
Visit #1:
Walked in after lunch. Both Leena and Ying were not there to my dismay. I inspected the lineup and, yeah, it was pretty bad. The only one that I was somewhat OK with was Janet, who was smiling at me the hardest. I was tempted to try Janet but held back due to some recent negative reports on her here. However, I did have a specific fantasy in mind -- cumswapping -- and was curious to know if Janet would provide this service. I pulled her aside and asked if I can do a 3 some with her, cum in her mouth, and have her kiss another girl with my cum. She happily agreed and indicated she can do this with Nadear (I'm 90% sure she said Nadear. She pointed to a short-haired girl with dyed orange / yellow hair. Is that her? I was very tempted but in the end, couldn't pull the trigger as I wanted to try Leena more.
Visit #2:
A few days later, walked in around same time and Leena was available this time, but not Ying. I choose her and up we went. First impression is she's way too chunky / meaty and short for me, and face was just barely acceptable (I preferred Janet's face to hers). In fact, without the kamagra in my system, I'm not sure I would have been 100% hard. But she had a nice smile and I was pretty set on ticking her off the list so here we go. As we are showering, she is singing a lot as we do the usual chit chat. She tells me she doesn't like doing 3 some, and that many of her customers are Japanese. The whole time she is moving confidently and singing / humming, totally unfazed when I tell her I'm here for one thing only. To fuck her ass. We start with BBBJ in various positions. She was going a bit too hard for my liking, but the deep throat and copious amounts of spit and drool turned me on. The entire time I was talking very dirty to her and she did not mind. After about 10 min of BBBJ, I told her to put on the condom I brought and get ready for my cock. I told her I wanted to fuck her ass in missionary, with her legs up. She readily obliged. I then proceeded to fuck her ass in that position for about 25 min before cumming into the condom. During the fuck, she squirted continuously, which she is famous for. I'm really not sure if it's [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) or not but to me it was a novelty and I enjoyed it. I wanted to bust on her face but her ass felt too good and I lost control before I could do that. After that, we rested for a bit, showered, and I decided that I did not want to go for round 2 as I had other plans for the evening and wanted to save my cum. Got dressed and said goodbye. Overall, I satisfied my curiosity and scratched this itch, but I don't think I'll be repeating, because she doesn't have the looks I like. I have no complaints about her service, and she obliged my every request. True PSE for sure, but for me, it was just a box that was to be ticked once and no more.
Visit #3:
Towards the end of my BKK trip, I was pretty fucked out and also exceeded my budget for the trip. I was still curious about Ying, but I wasn't that keen to go given Tulip isn't really my thing and the girls were truly too ghastly. But the thought of ending my trip with a PSE experience swayed my decision and I ventured there mid afternoon. Ying was there, but to my dismay both her body and face didn't look very appetizing, even less so than Leena. BTW both Janet and Leena were in the lineup when I arrived and they didn't look too happy that I didn't pick them, shooting me half-joking dagger eyes. I kinda wanted to bail but Ying was flashing me sweet smiles and my balls took over my brain. Up we went. On our way to our room, we walk past a room where someone was fucking one of the girls hard and slapping her ass. We heard the slaps and laughed. When we arrived in our room, she quickly took off my shorts and started sucking my cock within 10 seconds of entering the room. I didn't even have my shirt off yet and we both had not showered. In fact the shower was entirely skipped. Felt pretty dirty tbh but it was too late, I was already in fuck mode. Asked a sloppy BBBJ, I fucked her doggystyle with condom on for about 20 min, then told her to spread her asshole apart with her hands while I pulled out, removed the condom, and sprayed all over her asshole and pussy. As soon as I nutted, I felt pretty disgusted and decided to get out of there quickly. While it was a nice sight to see my hot cum dripping from her asshole down her pussy, I told her I had plans and quickly showered and left. She pressed me to stay for another round as our time was not up yet, but I told her not to worry, I will tell the front desk that I enjoyed her service and that I had to leave because I was in a hurry.
Overall, I think this will be my last visit to Tulip. I've always wanted to tick the boxes for Leena and Ying and now I have. They both delivered strong performances and met my expectations. But the girls there are not my cup of tea and I can't help but feel a little dirty there. Got my fix of PSE and walked out both times satisfied and happy. Tulip will always have its market, but man those ladies are def past their prime.
VivaMattyVegas
10-15-19, 11:20
From some of the posts I've read recently, am I to understand all women at Tulip's now use condoms? That's too bad as bare was one of the main draws about the place to me, along with A+ from most of the women.
From some of the posts I've read recently, am I to understand all women at Tulip's now use condoms? That's too bad as bare was one of the main draws about the place to me, along with A+ from most of the women.Will it last? I'm not sure. The model is dependent on the extras you can get here. Competition / supply demand suggests it won't take long to come back one way or another.
Franciscass
10-15-19, 12:42
I must be getting somewhat prudish in my old age but I was taken aback reading a report from a member who while rough deep throat a girl she began to vomit yet he continued to face fuck her while she continued to vomit and then making it seem this was really because she wanted to please him. What was even more amazing was other members responses.
I must be getting somewhat prudish in my old age but I was taken aback reading a report from a member who while rough deep throat a girl she began to vomit yet he continued to face fuck her while she continued to vomit and then making it seem this was really because she wanted to please him. What was even more amazing was other members responses.Yeah, me too.
Seems to be a gonzo porn enactment which is not for me at all. Gagging, face fucking and vomit does not do it for me (maybe the details are exaggerated or lost in translation somewhat).
Interesting that several guys go to Tulip to live out scenes that are clearly inspired by watching pornography. This thread often has guys asking about services that are straight out of modern porn which to my mind is often less than erotic.
I must be getting somewhat prudish in my old age but I was taken aback reading a report from a member who while rough deep throat a girl she began to vomit yet he continued to face fuck her while she continued to vomit and then making it seem this was really because she wanted to please him. What was even more amazing was other members responses.Ditto for me as well. Not sure if this was the usual ISG embellishment that goes on, but if it wasn't I am not too sure what pleasure could be derived from it. Each to their own I suppose.
Franciscass
10-16-19, 05:29
Yeah, me too.
Seems to be a gonzo porn enactment which is not for me at all. Gagging, face fucking and vomit does not do it for me (maybe the details are exaggerated or lost in translation somewhat).
Interesting that several guys go to Tulip to live out scenes that are clearly inspired by watching pornography. This thread often has guys asking about services that are straight out of modern porn which to my mind is often less than erotic.I get it, what's goes on between consenting adults is their business but continuing to face fuck a girl who is vomiting up her dinner well I don't understand how that can be pleasurable. That said it seems there are some folks who do so as they say it is what it is.
AssLover945
10-16-19, 06:28
I must be getting somewhat prudish in my old age but I was taken aback reading a report from a member who while rough deep throat a girl she began to vomit yet he continued to face fuck her while she continued to vomit and then making it seem this was really because she wanted to please him. What was even more amazing was other members responses.Totally agree with you, some guys are too fucked up mentally to be normal.
While expecting PSE at a place like tulip is probably normal, but gagging and making vomit is just gross.
Sick minds I say.
Interesting that several guys go to Tulip to live out scenes that are clearly inspired by watching pornography. This thread often has guys asking about services that are straight out of modern porn which to my mind is often less than erotic.Ha ha. Glad to see at least one guy agrees with my sentiments, except maybe you put it very nicely. Can't work out how degrading ugly stuff is a turn on, but maybe something about dominating and degrading a slave.
Cum liquid is really just a messy thing that smells bad and probably tastes bad. I never need to see what happens to it. No excitement coming from that at all. Why guys need girls to swallow, or make a mess on their face etc. , is just a bit "Psycho" to my thinking. It seems to have an element of forcing someone to do something revolting, and showing a high lack of respect for the "victim". One would not wish to shit on a girl's face, right? So is cum immensely more desirable?
maybe something about dominating and degrading a slave.
No excitement coming from that at all. Why guys need girls to swallow, or make a mess on their face etc. , is just a bit "Psycho" to my thinking. It seems to have an element of forcing someone to do something revolting, and showing a high lack of respect for the "victim". Some girls like it when the guy cums on her face, or some others like to swallow also. It's not only trying to force them doing this or make her a slave. In the oilies they might not like it because the guy is just a customer. But with the FLs, when there is some kind of relation that establishes they might enjoy it.
It's all psychological. It's like a guy that likes to eat a girl's ass, girls doesn't like it that much, it doesn't bring anything special to the guy that does it except some psychological excitement.
Franciscass
10-16-19, 08:29
Totally agree with you, some guys are too fucked up mentally to be normal.
While expecting PSE at a place like tulip is probably normal, but gagging and making vomit is just gross.
Sick minds I say.Somebody once said the only sexual perversion is chastity. There is a subset who enjoy [CodeWord100] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord100), [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118), S-M, bondage, fisting whatever else your imagination can dream up and for me while not my style that's perfectly fine as long as it's between consenting adults.
What I find offensive about the post we are talking about is the girl was vomiting up her dinner while he was facefucking her and while It appears there was no coercion involved it had to be uncomfortable for her to the point of being painful.
One could argue she could have stopped it and yes she could but I feel she was more concerned that her job as a Tulip worker required her to give the customer what he wanted and paid for and consequently she was taken advantage of. In no way can I believe she was truly a consenting participant.
I must be getting somewhat prudish in my old age but I was taken aback reading a report from a member who while rough deep throat a girl she began to vomit yet he continued to face fuck her while she continued to vomit and then making it seem this was really because she wanted to please him. What was even more amazing was other members responses.Could not agree more. Vomit? Horrifying.
Ha ha. Glad to see at least one guy agrees with my sentiments, except maybe you put it very nicely. Can't work out how degrading ugly stuff is a turn on, but maybe something about dominating and degrading a slave.
Cum liquid is really just a messy thing that smells bad and probably tastes bad. I never need to see what happens to it. No excitement coming from that at all. Why guys need girls to swallow, or make a mess on their face etc. , is just a bit "Psycho" to my thinking. It seems to have an element of forcing someone to do something revolting, and showing a high lack of respect for the "victim". One would not wish to shit on a girl's face, right? So is cum immensely more desirable?Back in the pre-Internet days, before and during the era of home video, when porn shops were where we got our erotic materials, there was usually a section of the shop devoted to paperback books with sexy stories. Might be hard to believe now, but some of us guys actually read erotic literature as well as looked at girlie magazines and hardcore porn magazines. And many of those books were damn sexy, too.
The sex "scenes" as depicted in the stories did not require the characters to pull out in order to show the "money shot", to prove that an ejaculation actually did occur and so on as was the case with the models in the pictorials and, later, the actors in video tape/dvds. When a girl finished a blowjob in a written erotic story, she didn't have to spit out the cum into her hand or whatever in order to prove he really came in her mouth. The story's author simply wrote the ending the way a blowjob meant to finish orally would happen in real life. And I'm not talking about bizarre extreme sex stories. Just normal ones.
In no case did I ever read a depiction of oral sex, a blowjob or cunnilingus, meant to finish orally instead of on the girls boobs or whatever conclude with anything remotely like, "and then she lovingly and discretely spit out his cum into a tissue." Nor did I ever read anything like, "as her squeals of delight from his licking her pussy subsided, he leaned judiciously to the left and spit out her vaginal lubrication into a towel." No more than I would have expected to read a passage of two lovers engaged in DFK taking turns spitting each other's saliva into a hankie between kisses.
I never read such a thing at the end of a normal act of oral sex as depicted in an erotic novel. Not once.
Either the international writers of those hundreds if not thousands of erotic novels assumed all of their readers were "Psycho" enough to demand the poor degraded girl in the story be victimized by having to actually finish a blowjob by swallowing the cum instead of spitting it out or they logically assumed that was the way almost every man on the planet would expect their oral sex fantasy to end. I'm going to side with the latter.
We're not exactly talking about the kind of "body waste" that one typically flushes down a toilet three hours after eating a medium pepperoni pizza and a drinking a six pack of beer. We're talking about natural body fluids that are, if anything, meant to be healthy enough to consume or absorb into our bodies one way or another anyway.
Spitting those kinds of body fluids out instead of simply quickly and efficiently swallowing the teaspoon or maximum tablespoonful of liquid produced by both men and women is a nasty, sad, insulting and revolting finish to what is supposed to be an act of willing acceptance of the natural product of your partner's sexual excitement. IMO, spitting at the end of an act of oral sex that is meant to finish orally is only about a half step away from vomiting in terms of a turn off.
Could not agree more. Vomit? Horrifying.After seeing what these girls eat on a daily basis, this form of play is definitely a required taste.
Money will get you anything in this place.
Pass.
Back in the pre-Internet days, before and during the era of home video, when porn shops were where we got our erotic materials, there was usually a section of the shop devoted to paperback books with sexy stories. Might be hard to believe now, but some of us guys actually read erotic literature as well as looked at girlie magazines and hardcore porn magazines. And many of those books were damn sexy, too.
The sex "scenes" as depicted in the stories did not require the characters to pull out in order to show the "money shot", to prove that an ejaculation actually did occur and so on as was the case with the models in the pictorials and, later, the actors in video tape/dvds. When a girl finished a blowjob in a written erotic story, she didn't have to spit out the cum into her hand or whatever in order to prove he really came in her mouth. The story's author simply wrote the ending the way a blowjob meant to finish orally would happen in real life. And I'm not talking about bizarre extreme sex stories. Just normal ones.
In no case did I ever read a depiction of oral sex, a blowjob or cunnilingus, meant to finish orally instead of on the girls boobs or whatever conclude with anything remotely like, "and then she lovingly and discretely spit out his cum into a tissue." Nor did I ever read anything like, "as her squeals of delight from his licking her pussy subsided, he leaned judiciously to the left and spit out her vaginal lubrication into a towel." No more than I would have expected to read a passage of two lovers engaged in DFK taking turns spitting each other's saliva into a hankie between kisses.
I never read such a thing at the end of a normal act of oral sex as depicted in an erotic novel. Not once.
Either the international writers of those hundreds if not thousands of erotic novels assumed all of their readers were "Psycho" enough to demand the poor degraded girl in the story be victimized by having to actually finish a blowjob by swallowing the cum instead of spitting it out or they logically assumed that was the way almost every man on the planet would expect their oral sex fantasy to end. I'm going to side with the latter.
We're not exactly talking about the kind of "body waste" that one typically flushes down a toilet three hours after eating a medium pepperoni pizza and a drinking a six pack of beer. We're talking about natural body fluids that are, if anything, meant to be healthy enough to consume or absorb into our bodies one way or another anyway.
Spitting those kinds of body fluids out instead of simply quickly and efficiently swallowing the teaspoon or maximum tablespoonful of liquid produced by both men and women is a nasty, sad, insulting and revolting finish to what is supposed to be an act of willing acceptance of the natural product of your partner's sexual excitement. IMO, spitting at the end of an act of oral sex that is meant to finish orally is only about a half step away from vomiting in terms of a turn off.Grew up coming on not coming in. All about being paranoid about getting gals preggers even though they claimed to be on the pill.
Spitting those kinds of body fluids out instead of simply quickly and efficiently swallowing the teaspoon or maximum tablespoonful of liquid produced by both men and women is a nasty, sad, insulting and revolting finish to what is supposed to be an act of willing acceptance of the natural product of your partner's sexual excitement. IMO, spitting at the end of an act of oral sex that is meant to finish orally is only about a half step away from vomiting in terms of a turn off.This reads really quite silly to me. If CIM, the girl surely has right to do what she wants with the cum, and I know that 90% plus will spit it out (probably an under estimate). If she surreptitiously spits it out so as not to be "nasty" to your mind, well and good. I don't care what she does with it. I am no longer its owner. In fact The girl has every right to decide what she drinks, and most girls, find the thought of drinking cum to be quite disgusting, in my experience. Of course only a percentage were happy to take CIM anyway. Some girls find the thought of CIM to be disgusting already. I won't argue with them. I also would not wish to drink it. I met very few girls indeed that ever drank it. Even my old regular Tulip girl did not swallow and she said she would never do so for any customer. One guy wrote triumphantly that she swallowed, but she did not, merely got rid of it when he was not looking.
One girl told me the taste of Cum can vary a lot some okay and some quite horrible. Not sure if relates to guy's diet, age or smoking, or what.
One can't compare to DATY at all, since girls generally do not spurt any such liquid. Okay Some girls do become a lot wetter at orgasm, but it is still not similar. I have wiped my mouth after DATY of occasion or even had to spit, but not common.
Some girls, fortunately rare, refuse to kiss after DATY has occurred, as though they consider their own pussy to have something disgusting. One girl I know used to take CIM but after getting braces does not like to take CIM any more. I guess too hard to clean up with braces.
In men's mags, I rarely read the porn stories. Really only the pics mattered. The stories were as silly as porn movies, O.K. maybe not that silly. Any unromantic bits could be omitted like spitting of CUM.
One ex GF suggested we indulge in telephone sex when apart. Sorry its not the same as real sex (I certainly would not pay for it), and reading stories is even less appealing to me.
This reads really quite silly to me. If CIM, the girl surely has right to do what she wants with the cum, and I know that 90% plus will spit it out (probably an under estimate). If she surreptitiously spits it out so as not to be "nasty" to your mind, well and good. I don't care what she does with it. I am no longer its owner. In fact The girl has every right to decide what she drinks, and most girls, find the thought of drinking cum to be quite disgusting, in my experience. Of course only a percentage were happy to take CIM anyway. Some girls find the thought of CIM to be disgusting already. I won't argue with them. I also would not wish to drink it. I met very few girls indeed that ever drank it. Even my old regular Tulip girl did not swallow and she said she would never do so for any customer. One guy wrote triumphantly that she swallowed, but she did not, merely got rid of it when he was not looking.
One girl told me the taste of Cum can vary a lot some okay and some quite horrible. Not sure if relates to guy's diet, age or smoking, or what.
One can't compare to DATY at all, since girls generally do not spurt any such liquid. Okay Some girls do become a lot wetter at orgasm, but it is still not similar. I have wiped my mouth after DATY of occasion or even had to spit, but not common.
Some girls, fortunately rare, refuse to kiss after DATY has occurred, as though they consider their own pussy to have something disgusting. One girl I know used to take CIM but after getting braces does not like to take CIM any more. I guess too hard to clean up with braces.
In men's mags, I rarely read the porn stories. Really only the pics mattered. The stories were as silly as porn movies, O.K. maybe not that silly. Any unromantic bits could be omitted like spitting of CUM.
One ex GF suggested we indulge in telephone sex when apart. Sorry its not the same as real sex (I certainly would not pay for it), and reading stories is even less appealing to me.I'm not sure why you bring up what a girl has the right to do with the cum. That isn't even remotely the point. Of course she has the right to be a lousy sex partner, the right to vomit all over you when you engage in DFK, the right to pick her nose and eat a booger she digs out of it. So what?
The paperback book porn from Olympia Press I was referring to is not the same as the junk you found written in most girlie or porn magazines back then.
That isn't even remotely the point. Of course she has the right to be a lousy sex partner, the right to vomit all over you when you engage in DFK, the right to pick her nose and eat a bogger she digs out of it. So what?
So you bring up things totally irrelevant to be sarcastic, but its not that funny. Too much imagination.
The issue was whether the guy requires or expects a girl to swallow, or thinks its exciting some how, but she does not wish to, finding it to be foul stuff. Not at all irrelevant
So you bring up things totally irrelevant to be sarcastic, but its not that funny. Too much imagination.
The issue was whether the guy requires or expects a girl to swallow, or thinks its exciting some how, but she does not wish to, finding it to be foul stuff. Not at all irrelevantNo, my point was to refute your assertion that a man expecting or preferring a girl to swallow instead of spit at the end of a blowjob must be "Psycho", into degrading or victimizing the girl. I find that assessment to preposterous and silly.
Grew up coming on not coming in. All about being paranoid about getting gals preggers even though they claimed to be on the pill.But would you or do you still pull out to cum on a girl if you know there is virtually no chance she would get pregnant if you came inside her?
But would you or do you still pull out to cum on a girl if you know there is virtually no chance she would get pregnant if you came inside her?I'd far rather pull out and paint 'them. Have no desire to squirt in a vag. Mouth is a different story. CIM is fine.
No, my point was to refute your assertion that a man expecting or preferring a girl to swallow instead of spit at the end of a blowjob must be "Psycho", into degrading or victimizing the girl. I find that assessment to preposterous and silly.Agreed. A woman who truly enjoys sex is not cumphobic and loves our juices and smells just as much as we love theirs.
Agreed. A woman who truly enjoys sex is not cumphobic and loves our juices and smells just as much as we love theirs.Exactly. Of course, when it comes to P4P where the girl might not truly enjoy anything she is asked to do sexually, she has the right to refuse to so much as provide BBBJ as mere foreplay, a BBBJ+CIM, BBBJ+CIM+Swallow or anything else. Then, imo, if the customer has not negotiated for any of those things, if the girl has not proposed and agreed to do them upfront or if some of those items are not spelled out in a menu as is the case in some MPs, the customer does not have the right to reduce the amount of money he agreed to pay for her time. Buyer beware.
On the other hand, if a P4P girl assures a customer upfront that she will indeed Swallow and not spit out his his cum at the point of his orgasm if he pays her X amount of money but at crunch time she asserts her right to change her mind and spit it out instead, he then has the right to reduce her pay down to zero as far as I am concerned. But only reducing it by, oh, 80% or so might be more practical depending on the circumstances.
For a non P4P, real boyfriend-girlfriend relationship, a girl also has every right to spit instead of swallow, of course. And, fair is fair, if she chooses to spit, I then have every right to dump her ass ASAP and get a much better girlfriend. Which I most assuredly will do.
I was in BKK recently and had a list of providers / venues I wanted to try, and Leena and Ying made the list given the strongly positive reviews they've received on this forum.
I've been to Tulip once awhile back (had Golf), so I knew what to expect in the appearance of the girls. I've never seen Leena or Ying, so my plan was to walk in and see the goods before deciding, instead of booking in advance. I didn't want to take up the girls' slots in case I didn't like what I see and decided to cancel.
Visit #1:
Walked in after lunch. Both Leena and Ying were not there to my dismay. I inspected the lineup and, yeah, it was pretty bad. The only one that I was somewhat OK with was Janet, who was smiling at me the hardest. I was tempted to try Janet but held back due to some recent negative reports on her here. However, I did have a specific fantasy in mind -- cumswapping -- and was curious to know if Janet would provide this service. I pulled her aside and asked if I can do a 3 some with her, cum in her mouth, and have her kiss another girl with my cum. She happily agreed and indicated she can do this with Nadear (I'm 90% sure she said Nadear. She pointed to a short-haired girl with dyed orange / yellow hair. Is that her? I was very tempted but in the end, couldn't pull the trigger as I wanted to try Leena more.Excellent report, MrKim. Two detailed girl reports combined with thought-provoking observations and opinions. Many thanks for sharing this with us. The service at Tulip can be amazing but, as you correctly point out, one has to overcome the yuk factor first.
Franciscass
10-17-19, 05:00
CIM. Swallow. Some girls like it actually want it I have been there, some hate it. Some working girls don't like it but include it in their skill set as its good for business. Some girlfriends don't like it but do it thinking it will make her boyfriend like her more. Why some guys like doing the swallowing bit I don't get but if that's what turns them on and the girl is willing go for it.
No, my point was to refute your assertion that a man expecting or preferring a girl to swallow instead of spit at the end of a blowjob must be "Psycho", into degrading or victimizing the girl. I find that assessment to preposterous and silly.You quote me but the word Psycho does not appear in that context. So I don't exactly claim what you claim I claim.
Contrary to what Goat says, many Thais Make a big distinction between what goes in the mouth and what goes in the pussy, even if they enjoy good sex. I am sure my Mrs would be horrified if I spurted in her mouth, let alone swallow. Not all girls are "pornstars". Obviously guys that must CIM will see if different.
I like CIM fine myself, but is not mandatory. Girl can swallow if she wants to. Its not up to me and I don't care. Extremely few do swallow in Thailand and same experience of hookers in Europe as well. One could argue that all these hookers don't like sex, but many are in fact orgasmic, so they do at least like some aspects of it, especially the DATY. I find very few good fucks in Thailand (or European hookers) are knocking back a nice DATY, but also very few are swallowing.
You quote me but the word Psycho does not appear in that context. So I don't exactly claim what you claim I claim.
Contrary to what Goat says, many Thais Make a big distinction between what goes in the mouth and what goes in the pussy, even if they enjoy good sex. I am sure my Mrs would be horrified if I spurted in her mouth, let alone swallow. Not all girls are "pornstars". Obviously guys that must CIM will see if different.
I like CIM fine myself, but is not mandatory. Girl can swallow if she wants to. Its not up to me and I don't care. Extremely few do swallow in Thailand and same experience of hookers in Europe as well. One could argue that all these hookers don't like sex, but many are in fact orgasmic, so they do at least like some aspects of it, especially the DATY. I find very few good fucks in Thailand (or European hookers) are knocking back a nice DATY, but also very few are swallowing.I think you underestimate how accepting of a Swallow finish instead of a Spit finish many Thai girls are. What goes in their mouth? These girls gobble up durian, eat scorpions, bugs, grubs, duck embryos and whatever crawls and flies around and gets chopped up into somtam at street carts.
I have 8-9 fairly recently added regular non pro and P4P girls in my "stable" of quick and easy contacts, most in their 20's, a couple in their early 30's, all attractive, who happily swallow for me but say they never did before. The only difference between me and previous boyfriends and customers is I asked them to do it. Like many things in life: you don't ask, you don't get.
Every one of them was a bit scared to do it the first time. All of them realized later it wasn't nearly as difficult or distasteful as they thought it would be and actually appreciate that there is a lot less interaction with the smell, feel and taste of it when they quickly swallow instead of spit.
Whether it is shaving their pussy, going bareback, giving any kind of BJ at all, completing one with CIM, swallowing or several other sexual activities, I find most Thai girls are up for many things but will not bring it to the table first themselves for the sake of Face. They want YOU to broach the subject and ask for it. That relieves them.of taking resonsibility for how they got there. Lol. Afterwards, they are often not just fine with it, they would not think of doing it for you any other way.
I would say it's a good think you never want a BJ finish like that because there is practically no chance of you ever getting one if Thai girls sense you are as revolted and disapproving of it as you seem to be here.
Every one of them was a bit scared to do it the first time. All of them realized later it wasn't nearly as difficult or distasteful as they thought it would be and actually appreciate that there is a lot less interaction with the smell, feel and taste of it when they quickly swallow instead of spit.
In all my CIMs with Thais, Europeans, black girls etc. , I never asked one to swallow. I don't recall a single one that swallowed of their own accord. So not one of them thought it was really desirable. Some of these girls have done many many CIMs some less.
Certain porn stars in Thailand at Tulip etc. Mentioned that the taste varies a lot from almost acceptable to outright vile, depending on the guy. Girls have not told me my cum tastes great or vile. They probably don't think it is polite to do so.
The natural reaction of anyone with something sticky and unpleasant in the mouth, is to spit it out. Sticky stuff can get stuck in the throat and make one gag. I have no problem with their decision. Wanting a girl to swallow something unpleasant, well that is just beyond my comprehension other than it mimicks nasty porn movies. Of course porn stars get paid to swallow just to make it seem more extreme, so other girls can be paid to swallow too.
Its enough for me that girls are willing to take a CIM for our enjoyment. Swallowing is not going to increase my enjoyment. The stuff already left me.
I am willing to do a 30 min DATY for a girl's enjoyment if she needs that much time (the tongue is something that does not tire), however not if she tastes unpleasant. My ex farang wife was definitely in the tastes unpleasant category. Most Thai girls are good though.
Girls should do what they like doing. They should be having fun too, if with me. I know many guys don't care in the slightest if the girl has a good time. If girl is not into having fun, I probably don't repeat unless she is stunning, and then she may get another chance to get more into it possibly with alcohol assist to help her loosen up.
Girls following procedures and going through the motions don't really work that well for me. You can be sure all my regulars are seeming to be getting it off too, at least sometimes. One ex regular was a wild fuck, got excited and worked up, but got her pop only on occasions, a girl that came with difficulty. Girls that habitually refuse to get into it are just not my types.
It surprised me that I found a great GFE girl on SOI 4 Naam (who is no longer there -sponsored by someone). Was easy to see she was really into sex big time, fabulous tongue kisser for example, however she requested no CIP. No problem for me. I really love that go for it attitude in a girl, but I am happy she does what she likes doing.
Looks like the Tulip thread has been invaded by Curly, Larry and Moe giving us their wisdom and insights (not).
Pity.
Looks like the Tulip thread has been invaded by Curly, Larry and Moe giving us their wisdom and insights (not).
Pity.I look forward to you posting something far more informative too. A "presumption" I know (since may not happen), rather than an "assumption" of what is likely true (but unproven).
The knockers or lurkers should put up and set an example.
Looks like the Tulip thread has been invaded by Curly, Larry and Moe giving us their wisdom and insights (not).
Pity.Haha. The mute button is your friend.
Franciscass
10-19-19, 07:27
I think you underestimate how accepting of a Swallow finish instead of a Spit finish many Thai girls are. What goes in their mouth? These girls gobble up durian, eat scorpions, bugs, grubs, duck embryos and whatever crawls and flies around and gets chopped up into somtam at street carts.
I have 8-9 fairly recently added regular non pro and P4P girls in my "stable" of quick and easy contacts, most in their 20's, a couple in their early 30's, all attractive, who happily swallow for me but say they never did before. The only difference between me and previous boyfriends and customers is I asked them to do it. Like many things in life: you don't ask, you don't get.
Every one of them was a bit scared to do it the first time. All of them realized later it wasn't nearly as difficult or distasteful as they thought it would be and actually appreciate that there is a lot less interaction with the smell, feel and taste of it when they quickly swallow instead of spit.I was wondering ET which wine you feel goes better with cum. I was thinking a red but perhaps a white would be more suitable because of the more fishy flavor of the course. Also it is best served as an appetizer or a dessert or perhaps keep it simply and use it only as a dip.
I look forward to you posting something far more informative too. A "presumption" I know (since may not happen), rather than an "assumption" of what is likely true (but unproven).
The knockers or lurkers should put up and set an example.A very fair point. It was a joke, a bit lame but it got one giggle anyway.
I look forward to you posting something far more informative too. A "presumption" I know (since may not happen), rather than an "assumption" of what is likely true (but unproven).
The knockers or lurkers should put up and set an example.I agree with the knockers and lurkers who probably would contribute more to this board if they weren't overwhelmed by the sheer volume of prattle. Got something to say about me then?
You rarely post valuable information, and when you do, it's buried among pages and pages of your BS.
I was wondering ET which wine you feel goes better with cum. I was thinking a red but perhaps a white would be more suitable because of the more fishy flavor of the course. Also it is best served as an appetizer or a dessert or perhaps keep it simply and use it only as a dip.Franciscass, funny you should ask because just last night I had a sweet faced, slim and lovely 22 year old girl I met on a dating site over for all night, our 4th time together this way (2,500 baht) and she is a champion blowjob giver, always finishes with a swallow. For me, that is. Then again, I told her that is the kind of finish I prefer when we first met. After dinner, on our way back to my apartment, we stopped in 7-11 and she bought two bottles of SPY wine cooler, zero sugar, classic.
But I don't think she had in mind to accompany her inevitable cum swallow with a swig of that wine cooler. It wasn't a factor except for this; we fucked bareback a while before I moved to have her finish with one of her great blowjobs. And I sensed she was uncomfortable with the taste of her vagina on my dick. BTW, her smoothly shaved pussy tastes fresh and clean, no problems at all, but these girls are paranoid about how their pussy smells and tastes. I would say they are generally much more concerned and worried about that than the smell and taste of a man's cum. Anyway, that is when she took a quick swig of her wine cooler, just before launching into the blowjob after we had engaged in bareback fucking. And I believe it did work to somewhat wash away the smell of her pussy and replace it with that fruity smell rather than having me stop to wash my dick in the bathroom before the blowjob. Ugh. Which would have been a horrible mood and moment killer.
However, she did not take a swig of it AFTER I finished 100% inside her mouth and she quickly swallowed my cum. So the wine cooler wasn't meant to accompany her swallowing my cum. It was only meant to mask or wash away the taste of her own pussy on my dick before putting it in her mouth. And that might have just been a spur of the moment inspiration on her part. There was no move to do that when she gave me a BBBJ as foreplay before we fucked.
This is a very well brought up young lady, well educated, fairly fluent in English but a bit shy to speak it very much, has a good job in the management offices of Mega Bangna Mall, no ugly tats, no weird piercings, just a very sweet, lovely young Thai girl looking for a nice man to help her with the usual extra monthly expenses and discretionary spending they like to do. Therefore, it could be she is well educated enough to know that semen is made up of citric acid, free amino acids, fructose, enzymes, phosphorylcholine, prostaglandin, potassium, and zinc. Which might have been the reason she bought (I tried to push in to pay for it but she wouldn't let me) the zero sugar version of the wine cooler, not wanting to add more sugar to the teaspoon of cum she already knew she would be ingesting later that evening that already had fructose in it. She is a very fit and health-conscious young lady that way.
A very fair point. It was a joke, a bit lame but it got one giggle anyway.Always remember for each complaint made there's about ten who think it's their own fault and never say anything.
BMoreDog69
10-21-19, 02:36
For me, the real distinction is not whether they spit or swallow. For me, I want the lady to "linger and finish" things slowly. I don't really care if she spits or swallows after that. What is bothersome is a lady that pulls off as soon as you CIM, finished or not, to go spit. These ladies don't want CIM, and swallow would likely be out of the question. For ladies willing to linger a bit, they would likely be OK with swallowing, especially if they considered it would make things potentially less unpleasant (assuming they don't like it) to swallow.
I'll take a 30-ish (no bad baby damage) lady with a "few" extra pounds that is eager over a 20-ish hottie that is disinterested.
Franciscass
10-21-19, 10:23
Franciscass, funny you should ask because just last night I had a sweet faced, slim and lovely 22 year old girl I met on a dating site over for all night, our 4th time together this way (2,500 baht) and she is a champion blowjob giver, always finishes with a swallow. For me, that is. Then again, I told her that is the kind of finish I prefer when we first met. After dinner, on our way back to my apartment, we stopped in 7-11 and she bought two bottles of SPY wine cooler, zero sugar, classic.
But I don't think she had in mind to accompany her inevitable cum swallow with a swig of that wine cooler. It wasn't a factor except for this; we fucked bareback a while before I moved to have her finish with one of her great blowjobs. And I sensed she was uncomfortable with the taste of her vagina on my dick. BTW, her smoothly shaved pussy tastes fresh and clean, no problems at all, but these girls are paranoid about how their pussy smells and tastes. I would say they are generally much more concerned and worried about that than the smell and taste of a man's cum. Anyway, that is when she took a quick swig of her wine cooler, just before launching into the blowjob after we had engaged in bareback fucking. And I believe it did work to somewhat wash away the smell of her pussy and replace it with that fruity smell rather than having me stop to wash my dick in the bathroom before the blowjob.Interesting post on an overnighter ET. Very envious of your circumstances and this particular member of your "stable" Seems like a lovely young lady but I have to say just a wee bit odd. No doubt they are out there I gather mostly on dating apps but I always find it strange when I hear of well brought up, well-educated, attractive young girls with good jobs turning tricks with old timers to balance the books. The other feature of her personality I found odd was her dislike of the taste of her vagina. I mean how many girls go around tasting what comes out of their pussy dislike it so much they have to mask it when sucking a cock that's been in there but then have no problem swallowing a mouthful of cum, even more strange when you tell us her pussy actually tastes great. As an aside I was wondering ET as a gentleman and an equal opportunity kind of guy if you are also a swallower and not a dribbler. I have to confess that after doing DATY for a while I do tend to let the buildup of her love juices seep out on whatever is handy but then again I don't need her to swallow so I suppose it evens itself out.
For me, the real distinction is not whether they spit or swallow. For me, I want the lady to "linger and finish" things slowly. I don't really care if she spits or swallows after that. What is bothersome is a lady that pulls off as soon as you CIM, finished or not, to go spit. These ladies don't want CIM, and swallow would likely be out of the question. For ladies willing to linger a bit, they would likely be OK with swallowing, especially if they considered it would make things potentially less unpleasant (assuming they don't like it) to swallow.
I'll take a 30-ish (no bad baby damage) lady with a "few" extra pounds that is eager over a 20-ish hottie that is disinterested.You have just identified one of the very good reasons to ask for and encourage a Swallow finish. The chances of getting an early quitter is greatly diminished if the deal is for her to Swallow and not just take a shot in her mouth. It is your basic tactic of negotiating for more than absolutely necessary in order to settle for precisely what is necessary rather than something disappointingly less.
Interesting post on an overnighter ET. Very envious of your circumstances and this particular member of your "stable" Seems like a lovely young lady but I have to say just a wee bit odd. No doubt they are out there I gather mostly on dating apps but I always find it strange when I hear of well brought up, well-educated, attractive young girls with good jobs turning tricks with old timers to balance the books. The other feature of her personality I found odd was her dislike of the taste of her vagina. I mean how many girls go around tasting what comes out of their pussy dislike it so much they have to mask it when sucking a cock that's been in there but then have no problem swallowing a mouthful of cum, even more strange when you tell us her pussy actually tastes great. As an aside I was wondering ET as a gentleman and an equal opportunity kind of guy if you are also a swallower and not a dribbler. I have to confess that after doing DATY for a while I do tend to let the buildup of her love juices seep out on whatever is handy but then again I don't need her to swallow so I suppose it evens itself out.There really is nothing unusual about that kind of girl in my "stable". The well brought up young lady part is simply that she/they do not come across as hardened hookers, loaded with ugly tattoos, weird piercings, wearing neither trashy/overtly sexy clothes nor near beggar garb in an above average restaurant for dinner, being comfortable enough to know how to interact with a server in a pleasant, polite way, not the least bit skanky and so on. I could introduce her and most of the others to any fellow punter and expat and, other than the massive age difference and even in spite of it, they have to ask later if she is P4P or not. It is simply not obvious even to them that they are freelance hookers instead of just some nice young ladies I met casually at the mall. It is easier for them or anyone else to know it if the girl is a go-go dancer, of course.
I agree that my experiences in these things are very different from what I often read on these threads. I have said that before myself more than once. What can I say? That seems to be the way it is for good and for bad. For example, I have not had one good or repeatable experience with a girl in a massage shop, PSE shop or soapy. Yet, most men on these threads seem to view those venues as the most reliable places for getting their money's worth. Not me. Never. On the other hand, I have had some of the best Real Sex/True GFEs and PSEs with go-go dancers and dating site girls while most posters seem to expect and get less from them than places like Tulip.
On the dislike of the taste of her own vagina, surely you have experienced the pursed lips and head turn when you try to DFK these girls after DATY. And when there was no pursed lips and head turn for DFK before you DATY, right? Never? Well, I sure have. And it happens even when there is almost no objectionable odor about their vagina.
There is WAY more oral and facial smearing and interaction with the smell and taste of a pussy and the liquid that comes out of it throughout the act for a much longer amount of time when a man engages in DATY (and therefore when he moves up afterwards to kiss the girl on her open mouth as well) than a girl experiences with the roughly teaspoon of liquid that cums out of the tip of a penis in 2-3 squirts only at the END of the blowjob, hits the back of her tongue and she swallows it quickly. Yes, I try my best to lap up, bring into my mouth and swallow every drop of her vaginal lube and secretions I can get without inadvertently spilling it or dribbling it onto the sheets or floor. I would never for one second consider figuring out some way to get rid of it, deposit it into a towel, tissue or otherwise getting as much of it out of my mouth instead of into my mouth. Not just for my pleasure in tasting her, but also to avoid her catching me trying to pull such a silly childish thing.
I believe I said her pussy tasted fresh, clean and presented no problem at all, I didn't really say it tasted "great". "Great" is an interesting word for the taste of a human being's sex organs. It is probably a word I might use to assure a girl that her pussy tastes fine, just to make her feel more comfortable. But the fact is our sex organs do not taste "great" in the way a chocolate milkshake or a pepperoni pizza does. However, I don't expect a woman's pussy to taste like those things. When I want something that tastes like those things, I get those things to eat or drink. I expect a woman's pussy to taste like a pussy, preferably a clean and fresh one, nothing more and nothing less. And as long as that pussy belongs to someone I like, I assure you I will be more than happy to taste it if my doing so is certain to give her intense pleasure. When the girl asks me, disbelievingly, if I like the taste of her pussy and why, the answer is simple; "I like you. So I like the way your pussy tastes because it tastes like you."
Franciscass
10-22-19, 03:39
There really is nothing unusual about that kind of girl in my "stable". The well brought up young lady part is simply that she/they do not come across as hardened hookers, loaded with ugly tattoos, weird piercings, wearing neither trashy/overtly sexy clothes nor near beggar garb in an above average restaurant for dinner, being comfortable enough to know how to interact with a server in a pleasant, polite way, not the least bit skanky and so on. I could introduce her and most of the others to any fellow punter and expat and, other than the massive age difference and even in spite of it, they have to ask later if she is P4P or not. It is simply not obvious even to them that they are freelance hookers instead of just some nice young ladies I met casually at the mall.Appreciate your honesty ET. I get the difference in dress code and tats that separates working girls whether part timers or not and can sometimes make the walk of shame more excruciating than need be. As I mentioned dating sites have not been a point of contact for me but your experiences suggest I am missing out so need to check out how it all works.
There is WAY more oral and facial smearing and interaction with the smell and taste of a pussy and the liquid that comes out of itChugging down body fluids isn't to everyone's taste but "EihTooms" is "Smoothie" spelled backwards so I can see that this is a topic close to your heart. This is a massage shop thread, however, so let's try to work our way back on topic.
Did you ever try Bonus? She was a competent but rather strange girl who moved around a bit between the various farang-friendly massage shops. On one occasion, she complained to me about tiredness during intercourse so I took a leaf out of your book. Obviously, the lazy cow just wanted to knock-off early so I made the best of it by asking her to finish me in her mouth. This was definitely not her thing but, in the circumstances, she could hardly refuse.
Unhappily for Bonus, I managed to summon up a massive load that gave her hamster cheeks. The look of dismay on her face was priceless and I almost felt sorry for her. She stumbled off to the shower and, as soon as the curtain was drawn, a loud splat emanated from within. She totally had me in stitches. Even Bonus was laughing.
The same situation arose just a few weeks ago with an inexperienced Mango girl called Mmee. She gave me a wild ride and we were both completely exhausted. She offered me an oral finish out of the goodness of her heart. Fate dictated that this would be another big load and poor Mmee found herself eyeing up the shower cubicle longingly while feeling obliged to stay by my side.
As the minutes passed, the task that lay ahead of her could only become more difficult due to the saliva welling up in her mouth so, finally, she pulled the trigger and down it went. You would have been proud of her.
Please do. I wouldn't fuck a woman over the age of 40 if she paid me, but I am interested to see how barebacking that dirty used anus works out for you in the long run.Good news, no STI, except oral herpes which about everyone has and who knows how long I've had it, not cure. I waited the recommended time and booked a test online at stdcheck.com, got the 10 test panel. Worked really well. Picked a lab, walked-in no appointment, gave them the number, the had the order, took blood, a few days later results.
I think it is very quiet now and girls are struggling to get money. What is "cowboy" by the way? Is it same as cowgirl or different?Ha! Hope you all got a laugh out of boy instead of girl. I sure did. Maybe cowboy happens with the ladyboys.
Please do. I wouldn't fuck a woman over the age of 40 if she paid me, My Mrs is 40 and still damn hot. I don't see bags or crow's feet under the eyes. I don't see any problem if a woman is in good condition, to have sex for quite a few more years till I am a crock and can't operate.
Its not the age that matters, it is the condition of the face and body, and the attitude. I still sneak to peak at her bathing in the nude. She is worth looking at. Trim and curvy. Not fat, not saggy. Plenty of Thais aged 40 can look like well under 35. Not so easy for western girls to look well under their age.
My ideal age for Thai girls is probably 25 through to 35, but somewhat older if in good condition. I am no spring chicken obviously.
I have not yet done a girl of 50+ but it is bound to happen some time.
I have not yet done a girl of 50+ but it is bound to happen some time.I have done that when I was 29. She was one of the wildest, kinkiest fucks of my life and she was 52. Crazy as fuck but kinky. She was my boss in NYC and I used to have to beg to get some sleep. She would fuck all night long, squirting and squirting. I would fall asleep and wake up with my dick in her mouth. Then the next day she was all appropriate business at work. Milfs who love sex are just a different experience. They know what they want and they get it. The women at Tulip are that way. They like sex. They start off doing what gets you off and then they kick it into what gets them off. It is a fucking wild ride. The other night with Golf was my fifth or sixth time with her and it went wild, again. I say no to fine little spinners all of the time because I know they can't fuck or suck or whatever. I like the animal pulse that real kinky women give off. June, Ying, Golf, Leena in no particular order. They all like or love sex if you bring some game. I have noticed they all get off when you try to get them off.
Its not the age that matters, it is the condition of the face and body, and the attitude.Attitude! My wife is 45,110 lbs and 5' 2". She is as kinky as the Tulip women. We have been losing control with each other for 20+ years. I would bring her to Tulip but I am afraid the women at Tulip will get jealous. It has happened in other places before. I probably shouldn't worry. Ying and Golf are off the planet outstanding together.
PSE is still the absolute experience at Tulip even though they have all gone safe for fucking. Let us all support them in what is good for them and good for all of us. Think about it. Even though the little brain wants / needs to shoot it's sperm in a naughty hole, it is not the good thing for us or them. We are all responsible for their safety as well as our safety.
I went in the other night on the first night back in BKK. I love going to Tulip. (and in the afternoons to the new Som's Haven) It is late at night and I ask for June, Ying, Dao (never met her) and they are all busy or off. I ask for Golf. I didn't have any particular preference. I was just rolling out names. Golf is there. She heard me ask for the others. It makes me feel badly. I don't want her to think she is not high on my list. It is better to make an appointment.
Golf comes out. I find her attractive. She has great modest sized fake boobs and a Phat Ass. She has a perfect fucking ass on a slim sexy body. I can still see her Phat ass in my mind's eye from 3 or 4 years ago. She was walking up the stairs in front of me. Perfectly round with a slender, slender waist. Up we go to the room. She sets me in the room and I tell her not to take a piss before she gets back. I get undressed and I am getting hard when she returns. She laughs in her sexy way that I am already hard. She asks if I want a shower, I tell her that I just showered at the hotel. She gets undressed and starts slinking on the bed. She is so sexy. Her Phat ass is up in the air when she starts licking my chest, balls and cock. She swings around so I can see her great ass in the mirror and she takes my cock into her **** throat. It is an experience. All of these nasty PSE Tulip women have kicked it up a notch now that they don't do BB fucking. (safer for them, safe for us) I am enjoying this well lit show in the mirror when I look down and she brings her mouth off of my cock and there is drool everywhere!! It looks like a really good porno movie. She is gagging and bobbing and keeps pulling off my cock to show me all of the nasty drool on her mouth and face. I keep kissing her in between. It is sexy as fuck! I tell her I need to fuck her. She applies my Magnum condom and spins around for Doggy with me facing the mirror and her Phat ass in my hands as I enter her sweet pussy. For all of the fucking that she has done that day, we have to take it slow. She has to accommodate my size. (I am used to it with my petite wife. Sex is supposed to be fun for everyone.)
Story will be continued tomorrow.
I have done that when I was 29. She was one of the wildest, kinkiest fucks of my life and she was 52. Crazy as fuck but kinky. She was my boss in NYC and I used to have to beg to get some sleep. She would fuck all night long, squirting and squirting. I would fall asleep and wake up with my dick in her mouth. Then the next day she was all appropriate business at work. Milfs who love sex are just a different experience. They know what they want and they get it. The women at Tulip are that way. They like sex. They start off doing what gets you off and then they kick it into what gets them off. It is a fucking wild ride. The other night with Golf was my fifth or sixth time with her and it went wild, again. I say no to fine little spinners all of the time because I know they can't fuck or suck or whatever. I like the animal pulse that real kinky women give off. June, Ying, Golf, Leena in no particular order. They all like or love sex if you bring some game. I have noticed they all get off when you try to get them off.Never been into the MILF thing. I'm after the unicorn; the mid-20's, no baby, slim pretty hottie who is pure filth. All my GFs in the states were that way starting with my first GF when I was 15. I never really encountered women who were not filthy and kinky in the US. Thailand is a different matter. I think there is still a lot of stigma attached to a kinky gal in Thailand. Most gals don't really turn that corner till they have lost their looks, had a kid, gotten fat, or of the above. At that point they feel they have nothing to lose. And there is no way they are going to snag a wealthy Asian at that point.
Golf has a great body and is an amazing actress and performer. She is very good at her job. But at some point the act does wear thin. I do think Ying truly enjoys her job. She's one of the few. Would have liked to have met her 15 years ago before the kid. She's a bit long in the tooth and a bit heavy for me now.
I do think Ying truly enjoys her job. She's one of the few...Ying is definitely not an actress. You do kinky things to her, you see her lose control. She is a lot of fun.
I agree. I like the women who do kinky stuff because they get off on doing kinky stuff or stuff they haven't done before. I think Golf is capable of getting into the zone. You just have to find her zone which isn't easy with someone who has probably done everything. Threesomes with her and Ying go off the rails. I personally think Golf really has a thing for Ying. Ying is just plain kinky so it works. Try that one. I will again before I leave.
Ying is definitely not an actress. You do kinky things to her, you see her lose control. She is a lot of fun.
I agree. I like the women who do kinky stuff because they get off on doing kinky stuff or stuff they haven't done before. I think Golf is capable of getting into the zone. You just have to find her zone which isn't easy with someone who has probably done everything. Threesomes with her and Ying go off the rails. I personally think Golf really has a thing for Ying. Ying is just plain kinky so it works. Try that one. I will again before I leave.I know Ying quite well and have met her many times outside the shop. What sets her generally apart from women working at the oilies is, that taken out of the shop she cleans up nicely and can be taken anywhere without any embarrassment and nobody would guess what she does for a living. She is also completely tattoo free. At the same time she is naturally horny and loves sex. But of course she also puts on a show when needed. She told me that herself. However given the right circumstances she is multi-orgasmic and a long time ago at a party we took bets how often we could make her cum. Having tried a lot with her in a group, threesome and one on one, I would be interested to learn what you think she would consider kinky. Maybe there is something new to explore with her. Golf and her are long-time buddies and Golf is her favorite tag-team partner. Golf actually is in a relationship with a tomboy. Therefore when she goes down on Ying it is not an act. Like you AP, a horny MILF does more for me than some wannabe model starfish. Just a few days ago, one of the FL's I see once in a while introduced me to her 20 year old sister. Tall, skinny and a cute natural face. However the girl was so inept, that I broke off the session. I sent her out and called in her older sister who had to finish the job. For me experience always trumps youth.
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