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NicFrenchy
01-25-13, 11:35
I don't think he indicated that her feelings were important. His continued peaceful existence is far more important (as would be for anyone). Only that she was crazy and he wanted to avoided the hassle by going elsewhere. Its weird and crazy for anyone to get so carried away after 2 meetings.
Do you like going to any places where girls are acting so crazy? It think its natural for most to avoid psycho cases.The point is not about liking to go to places with Crazies, the issue for me is avoiding a place altogether just because of a crazy girl. What's the biggest hassle? 1 girl or having to think about all the places you can't go to anymore because of this or that?
Passingthru69
02-03-13, 18:57
Well on my last day in LOS, I went over to Tulips.
This was right around 12 when they opened.
I went for the 2 hour 800 oil massage.
They offer me a lady named Joy.
Well there was no joy with Joy.
Speaks very little english, no problem as I can speak Thai.
We get to the room and she tells me special masage 1500, ok I tell her.
Off to the shower, that was just a shower. I was joking with her in the shower, but no action on her part.
Then to the maggase, way to much oil. Then she puts oil on the little guy and plays with him for a bit.
Then she does one of the dumbiest things I have ever seen. She puts on the cover and starts the blow job. Then mounts me.
Well needless to say the cover comes sliding off during the ride.
She panics and finds it in her.
I tell her I just want another shower and I'm leaving. She pouts says I still have time left. I tell her I'm not feeling good and I need to go.
So I spent 2300 for 2 hours and was out the door in 45mins.
I don't know if she was brand new to the game or what, but I do not know if I will go back there on my next trip or not.
Not what other posters have made it out to be.
Should of just stayed with going to Annies. There I have allways had fun.
Phew. This was the best sexcapade in a long time.
I had done my research and knew that weekend #1 would be a BJ bar and weekend #2 Tulip or Akane. Akane apparently doesn't do full sex or BBBJ so that ruled that out.
Getting to Tulip was fairly straightforward. Walked from the Novotel to Airport Rail Link and then took the express to Phaya Thai (90 Baht). Got out and tried not to get a woody when looking at the Thai girls. Very difficult.
On my way out, a middle eastern guy wanted to see my wallet, see my Australia dollars, hang out etc but I waved him off. I'm on my own punting. It's me, the road and the girl. I block everything else out. Then another train along central line passed Siam (fuck me, so fuckable these Thai girls) and over to Thong Lo. It's a long ride and finally got out, took out 3000 baht just in case I felt unfulfilled and looked over the edge. I could see Tulip straight way, but was at the wrong exit so had to backtrack once down stairs at road level.
Thong Lo is a bit dirtier than further along Sukhumvit, but I wasn't there for the ambience. In to Tulip. A few bored hairdressers, then met by the ladyboy (I assume) mamasan. Straight away a girl joined me who introduced herself as June. Died blonde hair, casual nightclub dress, nothing too revealing, friendly smile and quite attractive in a slim line way. I asked the mandatories. No condom for BJ and is A+ (anal) available (covered) which she said yes, you happy me happy. Ok then. She asked me where did I hear about Tulip and I replied internet. The ladies must get a lot of business via word of mouth on the internet.
Upstairs a massive cockroach raced past. Meh. I'd been in India, I wasn't too scared of some cockroach. In to the room and was offered a glass of water or juice. Requested some water and then advised to wait. Misunderstood, stripped off whilst June left and then the maid entered with me starkers with some water for me and soda for June. Eep.
Anyway, June was taking a while (5 mins passed) so I got in the shower and then she joined me, she stripped off to reveal a nice body, smallish breasts but a good figure. She'd had a couple of kids a while back but her body was respectfully good. No complaints for me. I aint no supermodel. If I was built like Bane from Dark Knight Rises then maybe I'd have higher standards but I'm not so I'm happy with a good attitude and service rather than stunning looks. But June is cute.
June joins me in the shower and pays special attention to the back passage, even inserting a finger to clean me up there, gives me a spank or two, strokes my cock several times and rubs it against back door to get me excited. Professional.
Then into the bed where she asks massage or sex. I say screw the massage for now, let's fuck. Hard.
First I'm on my stomach with the short catbath then she wipes down my ass and uses mints, rubs it in with soda. So it tingles and well as bubbles. Then the catbath becomes a good rimming with her getting her tongue and finger deep up my ass. Not as good as my old favourite Teresa at TMC in Melbourne who could make me cum buckets by stimulating my prostate, but good enough. Then turnover and she begins the real pornstar stuff, drinking soda and dribbling it on my cock and then licking the soda off again. Using mints on my cock. Unbelievable stuff. Getting the horny as I type.
Then she performs a deep hard blow job till I'm almost ready to burst. She stops when I ask her to, and she begins deep rimming me again, tongue pushing in. More deep BBBJ and CIM is acceptable but I really want to plough her tulip hard. So there's a little fingering of her pussy (soaking wet) and then condom on and some lube and she takes me up her ass. At first a little but then more and more till my whole cock is in. I'm average size and thought she'd struggle because of my width, but no problems there. A professional. First I'm on my back and she's reverse cowgirl pushing down but I couldn't get the rhythm. So then I get her to go doggy and I anal fuck her from behind hard as I can.
I don't think I've fucked anyone that hard in my life but it's testimony how good a service provider she is she took it easily. I came in bucketloads in her ass (with condom, of course) and then detumesced.
She offered as many pops as I'd like in the 90 minutes I'd booked and if I was ten years younger (or she was better at prostate massage) I'd have taken her up on it.
A body slide massage was offered with oil which I gleefully accepted. I would have loved more BBBJ with CIM or more anal but my dick just doesn't work like that anymore.
Into the shower with a proper clean up and more playing and dressed and out exactly at 90 minutes after I entered the room.
I'd rate this as the best experience I've had with a WL since mid last decade. I don't punt much anymore, but I couldn't imagine anything like this in Melbourne or Singapore or Malaysia or Philippines. This was straight out porn movie.
I left her a 200 baht tip as she gets about 750 baht for the booking. The owner gets the room fee (600 baht) and then 550 baht. The maid gets 200 baht. June's english is not great, but then my thai is shit.
Highly recommended. She's been at Tulip 7 months so is still fresh. She doesn't rate herself as very good but that flies in complete opposite of what I experienced. Treat her well.
[QUOTE=Supmam; 1382322]Phew. This was the best sexcapade in a long time.
Great report! I also have had some of my best service experiences in the world there.
But, you don't want to complain like others that the place is somewhat dirty and you are never going back? HAHA.
Eric The Prick
02-06-13, 12:43
I left her a 200 baht tip as she gets about 750 baht for the booking. The owner gets the room fee (600 baht) and then 550 baht. The maid gets 200 baht. June's english is not great, but then my thai is shit.I am very surprised with your tips. I have been to Tulip dozens of times through the years, and the tips was alway B1500.
Cheers,
Eric
I am very surprised with your tips. I have been to Tulip dozens of times through the years, and the tips was alway B1500.
Cheers,
EricA lot of confusion exists in the forum about the "tip" as a "standard" payment to the girl in a massage parlor, or a tip being an addiitonal payment.
Supman is almost certainly talking about additional payments above the standard 1, 500 THB. I would say that the chances of Supman leaving Tulip without paying a standard fee (that is the "tip" of 1500 THB) is about zero. TTG
A lot of confusion exists in the forum about the "tip" as a "standard" payment to the girl in a massage parlor, or a tip being an addiitonal payment.
Supman is almost certainly talking about additional payments above the standard 1, 500 THB. I would say that the chances of Supman leaving Tulip without paying a standard fee (that is the "tip" of 1500 THB) is about zero. TTGI hope you are right and some are not being big time cheapskates. I give at least 1500. Maybe more. But my girls are usually full GFE, bareback, etc. Each time I come back the service is better for me.
Tulip is an awesome place. I have never had bad service there.
Rick Strapping
02-07-13, 05:17
Phew. This was the best sexcapade in a long time.Stellar report, Supman. I'd looked over June a few times stopping in the "flower shop" seeking Dao, who I'm told is halfway through a one month leave (Luvpuss must have got her right before she left, lucky lucky). Anyway, as you say, an awesome time. The physical description is about right, though I would have said hair is dyed red not blonde. Face isn't the best, but this is Tulip after all, and June actually looks better with her clothes off. One non event for me was the soda & ice BJ show. I was a bit curious / amused at first: she swirls soda in her mouth, spits it on the cock and then blows you. Feels kinda "refreshing", but after awhile, I found it distracting and just wanted the straight goods. She put on a HOT show as I ploughed her A-hole, wiggling her butt into my cock, yelping like a wild tigress, smacking & spreading her cheeks, biting the pillow. Super nice and attentive after we finished too. Really sweet girl BUT would not repeat because.
A. Am waiting for Dao to come back.
B. Golf (Gob) , is a seasoned Flower Shop pro, whose gorgeous round ass is among the best I've seen on Thai girl (er. Well, she's not exactly a "girl", am guessing she's 37. She won't answer haha). Someone in this forum a long time ago described her as "too Middle Eastern looking" which is about right: she has a look that could be part Iranian, which for me is hot. I usually get bored silly during the pre-shag shower, but damn, she made it awesome, stroking my cock and balls from behind, flicking her tongue in my ass, and swallowing me whole on the first go. Her deep throat is sublime, among the best I've had (but I yet to try the legendary Dao). Rimming skills are great too. Super deep tongue action. After she rimmed me, I flipped her over and went straight into her tulip. She moaned in the pillow, kept looking at me via the mirror with those deep, Persian-like eyes, and submitted to a deep ramming for a good 20mins before I blew in the condom. Unexpected post-shag plus: a decent massage! She says she studied trad Thai massage before and it shows.
Supman, as we seem to have similar ideas about what makes for a good sexscapade, I'd also suggest Apple at Cherry Massage (have posted on her before in the other Bangkok Massage Parlors Forum) and Prae at Mango Massage (a newish girl I'm going to post on soon). Enjoy!
A lot of confusion exists in the forum about the "tip" as a "standard" payment to the girl in a massage parlor, or a tip being an addiitonal payment.Old story if mixing up the word "tip" with "fee"
In their simple english girls call tip was is a fee / price. This makes them also feel better as fee / price is "professional" and a fee is a gift. Professional workers get a fee. We well know these girls never thinks themselves as "professional working girls".
Further to Supmam's excellent field report, I went to Tulip to try June, and my experience was just as excellent, and in fact quite similar to Supmam's description, hence no need to repeat. June was thoroughly enjoyable and professional. Her BJ skills are outstanding in my book. In fact, thinking back, I wish I had let her bring me to completion, but I wanted to go to FS, which was good but not outstanding as the BJ was. Paid 800 for 2 hours and 2000 for June. Definitely value for money.
Old story if mixing up the word "tip" with "fee"
In their simple english girls call tip was is a fee / price. This makes them also feel better as fee / price is "professional" and a fee is a gift. Professional workers get a fee. We well know these girls never thinks themselves as "professional working girls".I think the girls don't much care, as long as the money is what they expect. Many guys in this forum do not have English as a first language and the confusion is of our own making. TTG
Tulip general:
1/25/12: AssLover945. Negative. Tulip too busy, good women taken.
4/8/12: Zenlove. Negative. Poor lineup.
4/12/12: NicFrenchy. Negative. Smelly Craphole.
5/17/12: Lavlanda. Positive.
12/1/12: Mjen1970. Negative. Unimpressed and demoralised.
Unnamed:
12/21/11: Ed Setra, very positive. A+, BBFS.
4/15/12: Jayf1970. Negative. Rimming, and another service below par.
10/3/12: SuperRaven. Positive. Rimming, anal, deep BBBJ, BBFS upon request.
11/15/12: Abb8912. Positive. Rimming, Anal, swallow.
12/8/12: SuperRaven. Positive. Rimming, Anal, cum on tits.
12/8/12: Pita123. Positive.
Bin:
6/28/12: Bubba Ray. Positive. A+, rimming, BBBJ.
Ben:
2/3/12: Fast Eddie 48. Positive. Rimming, BBBJ, MSOG.
Cat:
12/28/11: LittleBigMan, positive. BBBJ, A+, Pussy beer.
Cat, Nancy, View:
12/28/11: Mjen1970, positive. CBJ, A+. Attractive.
Dao:
2/1/12: Tim Bone. Positive. Deep throat.
2/7/12: AssLover945. Positive. Deep throat.
1/21/13: LuvPuss. Positive. Deep BBBJ. Rimming, anal, CIM (ATM?).
Golf:
2/3/12: Sad Sam. Positive. Rimming, A+, BBBJCIM.
JoJo:
9/1/12: JamesMaysTits. Negative. Doesn't like bolt ons. Took 15 minutes to put on make-up.
Joy:
2/3/13: Passingthru69. Negative. Bad service. Leaves early.
June:
2/4/13: Supman. Very positive. Rimming, BBBJ, CIM, Anal, MSOG.
Nancy:
1/17/12: Goatscrot, negative. No kissing, complained about pain because of his size.
Nin:
12/6/12: Luvpuss. Positive. Rimming, GFE, CFS.
Opao:
10/23/12: Xiphoris. Positive. Thought the girls were not that great looking. Tried real hard for a quick second round.
Pim:
4/22/12: Crazy4Thai. Positive. A+ (not for large guys) , light skin, B cups.
6/28/12: AssLover945. Positive. Few extra pounds. BBBJ, A+.
1/23/13: Mooris7. Negative. Mechanical session.
Tom:
4/5/12: Nongpagba. Positive. A+, Deep BJ, GFE.
5/17/12: SuperRave. Positive. Bleach blonde. Deep rimming. A+. Swallows.
Ok, this is what I paid:
600 baht oil massage fee.
1500 baht service provider and mamasan fee.
200 baht tip to June for going that extra mile.
Of the 1500 baht fee, I think June gets about 750.
I consider the 1500 baht fee as standard and I am sure is on-negotiable, as is the 600 baht massage fee. Anything above and beyond is. Well above and beyond.
And yes, I wish I could repeat with June anytime now.
A lot of confusion exists in the forum about the "tip" as a "standard" payment to the girl in a massage parlor, or a tip being an addiitonal payment.
Supman is almost certainly talking about additional payments above the standard 1, 500 THB. I would say that the chances of Supman leaving Tulip without paying a standard fee (that is the "tip" of 1500 THB) is about zero. TTG
Ok, this is what I paid:
600 baht oil massage fee.
1500 baht service provider and mamasan fee.
200 baht tip to June for going that extra mile.
Of the 1500 baht fee, I think June gets about 750.
I consider the 1500 baht fee as standard and I am sure is on-negotiable, as is the 600 baht massage fee. Anything above and beyond is. Well above and beyond.
And yes, I wish I could repeat with June anytime now.The gal gets the 1500. At any of the oilies I pay the house fee plus 1500. Never any more. 1500 for 90 mins work is an amazing rate of pay in Thailand. No need to "tip" on top of that.
Paul Kausch
02-08-13, 03:09
The gal gets the 1500. At any of the oilies I pay the house fee plus 1500. Never any more. 1500 for 90 mins work is an amazing rate of pay in Thailand. No need to "tip" on top of that.Do you do the same with other MP like Cherry, Mango and Snow White? Referring to all these MP, do you tip extra if the girl lets you ride her bareback? Takes a really hard ass fuck? Or do you just expect these things from some of the girls? Just curious.
Thanks
AssLover945
02-08-13, 05:25
The gal gets the 1500. At any of the oilies I pay the house fee plus 1500. Never any more. 1500 for 90 mins work is an amazing rate of pay in Thailand. No need to "tip" on top of that.1500 + 600 is 2100, which is 70 US Dollars, which in my opinion is quite high already.
I really do not see the need for paying extra on top like stupid tourists, or like the super rich.
And seriously if you have that kind of money like 5-600 Bahts tip ( 20 USD) why not go to hi end massages like emmanuelle, poseidon etc where the beauty of girls is definitely as few notches higher.
Goatscroat, I agree with you fully (tilting my morning cup of tea towards you, from a sidewalk cafe as I eat breakfast and stare at the lovely ladies asses passing by)
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Some comments regarding the price at oilie's being of a level that makes it unnecessary to tip the lady. This is an opinion which you are perfectly entitled to have but if someone has a different opinion or approach to tipping that does not mean they are wrong or suckers or newbie tourists. Being different does not equate to being wrong or destroying the market for everyone else. Just my opinion.
Regards,
BJ
I'm happy with a 200 baht tip (note not 500. 600 Mr Asslover). I had a great time and I rewarded her what I felt appropriate. Good on you guys for your opinions, and I hope you live those opinions consistently.
I'm no hardened pro like you guys. If my 200 baht has completely distorted the Thai sex industry and your prices are now being inflated to US levels, I apologise in advance for distorting your market. Oh the shame!
1500 + 600 is 2100, which is 70 US Dollars, which in my opinion is quite high already.
I really do not see the need for paying extra on top like stupid tourists, or like the super rich.
And seriously if you have that kind of money like 5-600 Bahts tip (20 USD) why not go to hi end massages like emmanuelle, poseidon etc where the beauty of girls is definitely as few notches higher.
Goatscroat, I agree with you fully (tilting my morning cup of tea towards you, from a sidewalk cafe as I eat breakfast and stare at the lovely ladies asses passing by)
)
Scorchin1470
02-08-13, 13:23
I'm happy with a 200 baht tip (note not 500. 600 Mr Asslover). I had a great time and I rewarded her what I felt appropriate. Good on you guys for your opinions, and I hope you live those opinions consistently.
I'm no hardened pro like you guys. If my 200 baht has completely distorted the Thai sex industry and your prices are now being inflated to US levels, I apologise in advance for distorting your market. Oh the shame!Are those about prices and tips. We all have our own opinions on what a service is worth and what we feel a fair price. I have walked without giving a tip; paid Baht 200 and on one occasion gave the lady Baht 500. But it is my money, my holiday and my fun.
So being prescriptive as to the RIGHT tip is not going to change anything.
it is my money, my holiday and my fun.And therein lies the problem. Remember, the "scene" is all of ours and the worse it gets, the worse it gets for all of us, you included. And it is getting worse, way worse. Again, tipping or not tipping will not bring you better service. My concern is not 200 or 500 baht, which is really insignificant. It is about expectations and performance. it is about providers getting away with providing as little service as possible and punters letting them.
I'm happy with a 200 baht tip (note not 500. 600 Mr Asslover). I had a great time and I rewarded her what I felt appropriate. Good on you guys for your opinions, and I hope you live those opinions consistently.
I'm no hardened pro like you guys. If my 200 baht has completely distorted the Thai sex industry and your prices are now being inflated to US levels, I apologise in advance for distorting your market. Oh the shame!I don't think you need to worry about distorting the market. Because the more money the ladies get paid, the more ladies will want to join in and also get paid. More money brings in more women, which eventually gives guys more choices and lowers prices too. It's good for the market in the long run.
It's only when the market is restricted and regulated in some way, then prices can go up and stay up indefinitely, without any improvement in choices or quality.
Scorchin1470
02-08-13, 20:59
And therein lies the problem. Remember, the "scene" is all of ours and the worse it gets, the worse it gets for all of us, you included. And it is getting worse, way worse. Again, tipping or not tipping will not bring you better service. My concern is not 200 or 500 baht, which is really insignificant. It is about expectations and performance. it is about providers getting away with providing as little service as possible and punters letting them.The scene is not 'ours; ' it is mine for the week, two weeks that I am in Bangkok. You guys do not own the scene.
On money I will defend my right to pay whatever I think suits me. Remember to me to get an hour in the UK costs me Baht 6, 000 plus.and that is often without DFK and BBJ.
So if I get DFK, BBJ and a cat lick for Baht 1500 I am in clover.
But, and you make a very valid point. Expectations have to be pre-agreed and performance has to be GFE or PSE if agreed. I made the mistake once of agreeing everything but.
Kissing ad DFK; turned out she claimed mouth ulcers right at the start to avoid DFK. If true, good on her; if an excuse, . Decided it was an excuse and sent her politely on her
Way with a Baht 200 taxi fare, with complaints!
Was it unreasonable to expect DFK when just about everything else on any mongers wish list had been agreed? You tell me.
The scene is not 'ours; ' it is mine for the week, two weeks that I am in Bangkok. You guys do not own the scene.
On money I will defend my right to pay whatever I think suits me. Remember to me to get an hour in the UK costs me Baht 6, 000 plus. And that is often without DFK and BBJ.
So if I get DFK, BBJ and a cat lick for Baht 1500 I am in clover.
But, and you make a very valid point. Expectations have to be pre-agreed and performance has to be GFE or PSE if agreed. I made the mistake once of agreeing everything but.
Kissing ad DFK; turned out she claimed mouth ulcers right at the start to avoid DFK. If true, good on her; if an excuse, . Decided it was an excuse and sent her politely on her
Way with a Baht 200 taxi fare, with complaints!
Was it unreasonable to expect DFK when just about everything else on any mongers wish list had been agreed? You tell me.I tire of having to do such an extensive interview with girls and then having them renege on what is agreed upon or pull the stunt that one pulled on you, which is why I go to oilies where I usually don't have that problem, but am experiencing issues more and more.
By "ours" I mean everyone's, yours, mine, everyone that participates. It is never yours. That kind of thinking is exactly what screws up attitudes among the girls and leads us to what we have now. We all have to take care of what we have as it is disappearing at a very rapid rate. Each year it changes more and more, and not in a good way. Each year I think, it can't change more than it did the year before, and each year I am wrong. BKK is a very dynamic place in so many ways. Some of the changes in this city are nice for residents, but when it comes to P4P, most of the changes have not been favorable for the hobbyist. One only has to look at the demographics of the universities and the workforce to see the growing proportion of women who are gaining power and say in this society. The "feminist" movement, for lack of a better term, is gaining so much momentum in Thailand. Far more women here are choosing to be a single "working woman" as opposed to marrying a Thai man that they have to treat as a baby, yet "obey." Thai men are for the most part threatened by women that are more successful than they are and the women know this. In a nutshell the political power and clout of women (hey we have a woman PM here) will grow very rapidly over the next two decades and once there are more office holders you might actually see a real "crackdown" on P4P. Prostitution is illegal in Thailand. Another more impending event is the election of a new BKK governor. The Pua Thai candidate is leading in all polls. Remember, it is these guys who started the social order crackdown in '02. With Thailand still suffering in reputation, ie the Rosetta Stone skit, it is not completely paranoid to think a Pua Thai gov might "attempt" to clean up the capital city ala that famous mayor in Manila some years back.
What the cost is in the UK has no correlation with the cost here. None what so ever. Never has and never will. That being said, enjoy it while you can. The times they are a changin'.
I don't think you need to worry about distorting the market. Because the more money the ladies get paid, the more ladies will want to join in and also get paid. More money brings in more women, which eventually gives guys more choices and lowers prices too. It's good for the market in the long run.
It's only when the market is restricted and regulated in some way, then prices can go up and stay up indefinitely, without any improvement in choices or quality.Actually Dan, that is conventional Western economic thinking, but it does not work that way here (and it really does not work that way in the West either but that is another discussion). There have been countless more oilies open in the last two years and service quality has declined over that period, even in the shops that bill themselves as PSE.
Back in the day when it was just Barons, then just Tulip, the mantra was "all girls do everything." If you wanted to work there you performed, there was no such thing as no and there were a lot of very good looking girls staffing these places. In the early days of Snow and then Mango, this held true as well. As more and more oily shops opened the services provided became a bit more varied. Girls were allowed to make their own list of "rules" and now you have shops that list what the gals do and don't do. And low and behold, the better looking girls tend to do less. Surprise! Surprise! And many of the punters accept this and still take the non-performers. Of course the better looking girls at the PSE shops hear about this and either leave those establishments or refuse certain acts. Read about some of the Snow girls on this and other forums who now refuse DFK. And what is Nong to do? Fire them all and have a shop full of old fatties, like some of the other places of the ilk? And it is not that all the shops are all that busy either. Most of time you will find the stacked with gals. Conventional eco wisdom would tell you with the stiff competition for the punter baht that the gals should all be gargling with our sp*rm and singing "Oh Canada" but this is most certainly not the case. As in all other aspects of the P4P game in Bangkok, service for the most part is slacking off.
And again, the more they get paid, the more will want to join? Huh? P4P is still not a well thought of career path in Thailand. In a country with 1% unemployment and rising salaries it is less and less attractive to any female with half a brain and a little bit of ambition. Most in the field are lazy, not so smart, and / or have made a bad decision or two to end up there.
Actually Dan, that is conventional Western economic thinking, but it does not work that way here (and it really does not work that way in the West either but that is another discussion). There have been countless more oilies open in the last two years and service quality has declined over that period, even in the shops that bill themselves as PSE.
Back in the day when it was just Barons, then just Tulip, the mantra was "all girls do everything." If you wanted to work there you performed, there was no such thing as no and there were a lot of very good looking girls staffing these places. In the early days of Snow and then Mango, this held true as well. As more and more oily shops opened the services provided became a bit more varied. Girls were allowed to make their own list of "rules" and now you have shops that list what the gals do and don't do. And low and behold, the better looking girls tend to do less. Surprise! Surprise! And many of the punters accept this and still take the non-performers. Of course the better looking girls at the PSE shops hear about this and either leave those establishments or refuse certain acts. Read about some of the Snow girls on this and other forums who now refuse DFK. And what is Nong to do? Fire them all and have a shop full of old fatties, like some of the other places of the ilk? And it is not that all the shops are all that busy either. Most of time you will find the stacked with gals. Conventional eco wisdom would tell you with the stiff competition for the punter baht that the gals should all be gargling with our sp*rm and singing "Oh Canada" but this is most certainly not the case. As in all other aspects of the P4P game in Bangkok, service for the most part is slacking off.
And again, the more they get paid, the more will want to join? Huh? P4P is still not a well thought of career path in Thailand. In a country with 1% unemployment and rising salaries it is less and less attractive to any female with half a brain and a little bit of ambition. Most in the field are lazy, not so smart, and / or have made a bad decision or two to end up there.Why? You don't have any idea what you are doing. I was just here for 2 weeks. I fucked 30 times. All but one was a full GFE. The service has never been better for me.
The service is actually getting better. Why? Because I know what the fuck I am doing, I am nice to the girls, I ask the right questions, and I don't take BS. Many times I walk away from bullshit. Which is what more of you should do.
Besides Tulip, I went to 2 new "shops" for me. The service was stellar and GFE. I guess I am just lucky?
I am looking forward to my next trip."Back in the day" is now for me. There is plenty of GFE pussy out there for a great price. Full GFE with passion.
But, just go someplace else. Really, everyone. Maybe more will read your post and do so. Everyone should go to Costa Rica. Good luck. Let us know how it works out.
Bad luck for you that you are unhappy and get shitty results. Maybe look in the mirror.
Why? You don't have any idea what you are doing. I was just here for 2 weeks. I fucked 30 times. All but one was a full GFE. The service has never been better for me.
The service is actually getting better. Why? Because I know what the fuck I am doing, I am nice to the girls, I ask the right questions, and I don't take BS. Many times I walk away from bullshit. Which is what more of you should do.
Besides Tulip, I went to 2 new "shops" for me. The service was stellar and GFE. I guess I am just lucky?
I am looking forward to my next trip."Back in the day" is now for me. There is plenty of GFE pussy out there for a great price. Full GFE with passion.
But, just go someplace else. Really, everyone. Maybe more will read your post and do so. Everyone should go to Costa Rica. Good luck. Let us know how it works out.
Bad luck for you that you are unhappy and get shitty results. Maybe look in the mirror.Dude, I have lived her full time for over 13 years. Believe me, I know what I am doing. Perhaps I am far more particular or I am looking for something different from you. I am not looking for a GFE, I have a girlfriend at home. No kissing and cuddling. I want a full on nasty PSE, which I am finding harder and harder to get from girls. I want dirty talk, wet, nasty intensity from the time tho room closes. No soft kisses for me. I want a gal that pins me on the bed and tells me what filthy things she is going to do to me and I in turn tell her. I am always nice to the gals, very nice to them, but I expect them to perform and, here is the clincher; I want it from a girl who is pretty good looking, has not had a kid, has lighter skin, does not have the Isan simian look, takes care of herself, is insistent on condom use for intercourse, etc. Walk away? I have bailed out on a very large percentage of the freelancer sessions I have had in the last two years, due to lack of performance.
Other places? Been there, done that. I have found that South American gals tend to be a bit more passionate about sex, and believe it or not I find Indo gals to be a lot of fun as well. Funny with those gals that are raised in monotheistic cultures where sex is still considered "dirty" and there are lots of "taboos;" they tend on a whole to be a lot more fun. Viets and Koreans are great as well. They tend to scr*w you with an animosity like they would just as soon off you. The agression is wonderful. Thai women are in my opinion quite easy to live with and to please. You can create a nice harmonious home, but sexually they are far from the top.
Thailand is home. There is so much I like about living here. Bangkok is the greatest food city in the world for one. Gals may have brought me here, but even though the scene is a shadow of its former self, there is plenty to love about living in this country. And hey, read the boards, and talk to some folks; what I am saying is pretty much what most longterm residents and longterm frequent visitors are saying. Glad you are having a good time. Hope it lasts for you. Nothing is forever.
NicFrenchy
02-09-13, 09:38
Dude, I have lived her full time for over 13 years. Believe me, I know what I am doing.Save your breath, you're talking to a tourist who does not know any better.
Dude, I have lived her full time for over 13 years. Believe me, I know what I am doing. Perhaps I am far more particular or I am looking for something different from you. I am not looking for a GFE, I have a girlfriend at home. No kissing and cuddling. I want a full on nasty PSE, which I am finding harder and harder to get from girls. I want dirty talk, wet, nasty intensity from the time tho room closes. No soft kisses for me. I want a gal that pins me on the bed and tells me what filthy things she is going to do to me and I in turn tell her. I am always nice to the gals, very nice to them, but I expect them to perform and, here is the clincher; I want it from a girl who is pretty good looking, has not had a kid, has lighter skin, does not have the Isan simian look, takes care of herself, is insistent on condom use for intercourse, etc. Walk away? I have bailed out on a very large percentage of the freelancer sessions I have had in the last two years, due to lack of performance.Sometimes having too much of a good thing can decrease your enjoyment of it. It's like eating a small portion of a cake is very enjoyable. But when you eat a whole huge cake, then you might end up feeling sick and barfing it out in the end.
The same is true for having sex too. When you have a sex partner at home and also go to have sex with other ladies on the side, then it's no wonder that you aren't enjoying your sex with the ladies as much as you used to before.
Whether you like something or not is a subjective feeling that is influenced a lot by your personal circumstances. And your personal circumstances are very different from those of most other guys who are looking for ladies in Thailand. Most guys come off a plane after a long sexual starvation. They just want to nail some sexy chick with their dick. And the fact that she doesn't do DFK with them doesn't worry them at all.
Sometimes having too much of a good thing can decrease your enjoyment of it. It's like eating a small portion of a cake is very enjoyable. But when you eat a whole huge cake, then you might end up feeling sick and barfing it out in the end.
The same is true for having sex too. When you have a sex partner at home and also go to have sex with other ladies on the side, then it's no wonder that you aren't enjoying your sex with the ladies as much as you used to before.
Whether you like something or not is a subjective feeling that is influenced a lot by your personal circumstances. And your personal circumstances are very different from those of most other guys who are looking for ladies in Thailand. Most guys come off a plane after a long sexual starvation. They just want to nail some sexy chick with their dick. And the fact that she doesn't do DFK with them doesn't worry them at all.Dan, in many ways your last few sentences are correct, and Nic sums in up in the post before yours,"tourists."
Scorchin1470
02-09-13, 12:13
Save your breath, you're talking to a tourist who does not know any better.There are a number of 'old timers' who think that they know the P$P situation far better than tourists. And that the few of them on here think that they can influence a multi-billion baht / multi hundreds of thousand active sex workers.
What they do not realise is that they do not see, in their isolated bubble of living in the past is that the world is changing. Tourists, coming once a year for a couple of weeks / a month know that Thailand is moving on from being a $20 / LT country and that nothing the old timers, sitting supping their 10 Singha of the day can do about it.
Whilst I am in Thailand it is my budget, my money to enjoy my scene that I have created in the weeks before I arrive. And in truth it may cost a tad more but the quality of the sex has not gone down. Maybe as a tourist I just get away from Sukhumvit a little more.
Dan, in many ways your last few sentences are correct, and Nic sums in up in the post before yours,"tourists."I am a tourist and proud to be one.
Dropping this word as a derogatory insult is, frankly, childish.
I am actually a tourist everywhere I go, and I don't think living in a place justifies such contempt or those who visit.
Gents, stay in your bubble, and continue moaning between yourself.
We tourists continue to do as we please, and enjoy what the world has to offer. And it has a lot to offer, in BKK and elsewhere.
There are a number of 'old timers' who think that they know the P$P situation far better than tourists. And that the few of them on here think that they can influence a multi-billion baht / multi hundreds of thousand active sex workers.
What they do not realise is that they do not see, in their isolated bubble of living in the past is that the world is changing. Tourists, coming once a year for a couple of weeks / a month know that Thailand is moving on from being a $20 / LT country and that nothing the old timers, sitting supping their 10 Singha of the day can do about it.
Whilst I am in Thailand it is my budget, my money to enjoy my scene that I have created in the weeks before I arrive. And in truth it may cost a tad more but the quality of the sex has not gone down. Maybe as a tourist I just get away from Sukhumvit a little more.Just the opposite. I get far away from Suk, very far, as I find lower Suk has turned into a very dirty area with a very undesirable demographic, and am acutely aware of even the most minute changes in the country I choose to call my home. None of us think we can "change" the market, rather we are dismayed at the very rapid changes in the P4P scene over the past few years. But as I said in previous posts, there is much to like about the changes in LOS. The foodie scene has become quite amazing with restaurants like Smith, Quince, and Surface. There are far more choices in libations with world class mixologists at many of the new restaurants. Dude, cost is one factor but not the main factor. As I have said on several occasions; many guys come to Thailand to "date" working girls not to f*ck working girls, a concept I just don't get.
I am a tourist and proud to be one.
Dropping this word as a derogatory insult is, frankly, childish.
I am actually a tourist everywhere I go, and I don't think living in a place justifies such contempt or those who visit.
Gents, stay in your bubble, and continue moaning between yourself.
We tourists continue to do as we please, and enjoy what the world has to offer. And it has a lot to offer, in BKK and elsewhere.Touche! Well, contempt is a strong word. Many of my good mates are tourists here. Well, most have been coming to BKK for a decade or more, and most of them bemoan as I do. Hey, I will give you, there are more lookers in BKK then there were years ago. Gals here have learned how to dress, apply makeup, and are in many ways far more sophisticated than they were 10 years ago. A visit to a downtown mall will confirm that. Even some of the girls in the late night discos look pretty nice, but when I venture to the "zone" on Suk, I rarely see much that turns my head to tell you the truth. And yes, much if it is that after a few years here one's taste changes. You look at gals you were attracted to when you first came here and wonder what you ever saw in them. As one friend's Thai wife said,"when farang first come to Thailand, their eyes don't work." In my instance that was certainly the case. I just could not get why Asian dudes did not find Isaan girls attractive. Well, I guess my eyes work now.
I imagine there will always be a certain split between the tourist and the resident. Tourists think we are sour old f*rts and residents think tourists are unaware gullible prats. Of course there is a little truth in both those statements. I do confess, most of my good friends are guys that have lived here a long time. Why? Truth be told because when I am with the the topic of conversation is not usually about girls and conquests. When I am out with my tourist buddies most of the conversation revolves around last nights conquest and how "great" she was. I live here with all the good and bad that comes along with that. I am not on holiday. This is my day to day reality. My friends are here, my girlfriend, all my possessions, etc. It is far more than a "playground" for a week or two. So yes, things impact me on levels that don't impact you.
Well, a friend describes himself as a traveler rather than a tourist. The difference being that travelers try to get to know a bit more about local culture and absorb it.
I am a tourist and proud to be one.
Dropping this word as a derogatory insult is, frankly, childish.
I am actually a tourist everywhere I go, and I don't think living in a place justifies such contempt or those who visit.
Gents, stay in your bubble, and continue moaning between yourself.
We tourists continue to do as we please, and enjoy what the world has to offer. And it has a lot to offer, in BKK and elsewhere.It amazes me how many of the "residents" complain and have a difficult time getting a decent lay in their own city. Maybe its time to move.
It amazes me how many of the "residents" complain and have a difficult time getting a decent lay in their own city. Maybe its time to move.I think we simply become more discriminating and particular. I am not happy unless I get a full PSE out of a gal. BBBJ, rimming, dirty talk, all needs to be there, and oh, she needs to be pretty good to look at and not have a kid. Would not really matter where I lived; those are my expectations.
BTW, have your bowels moved yet?
Paul Kausch
02-09-13, 19:13
There are a number of 'old timers' who think that they know the P$P situation far better than tourists. And that the few of them on here think that they can influence a multi-billion baht / multi hundreds of thousand active sex workers.
What they do not realise is that they do not see, in their isolated bubble of living in the past is that the world is changing. Tourists, coming once a year for a couple of weeks / a month know that Thailand is moving on from being a $20 / LT country and that nothing the old timers, sitting supping their 10 Singha of the day can do about it.
Whilst I am in Thailand it is my budget, my money to enjoy my scene that I have created in the weeks before I arrive. And in truth it may cost a tad more but the quality of the sex has not gone down. Maybe as a tourist I just get away from Sukhumvit a little more.I suggest everyone calms down.
I can understand the perspective of the forum members who are long time residents of Thailand. I can empathize with their frustration (anger) with the changes they are witnessing and impact tourism is having on Thailand in general and Bangkok in particular. I recently read that Bangkok is the world's third most visited destination, after Paris and London! On the other hand, I don't think it's fair to attack tourists in general in one fell swoop.
I learned growing up that the residents of a tourist destination tend to resent the tourists, even though they are driving the local economy. They are perceived as intruders who are constantly inconveniencing the residents. And they're unfamiliarity with the locale sure can make them look stupid. But not all of them are stupid, nor are all the locals model citizens.
Growing up, my family was constantly moving. To give you an idea, I attended second grade in three different states without repeating the grade. As an adult I have traveled extensively throughout the world on business. And as I mentioned in the previous paragraph I have lived in cities that are among the world's top tourist destinations. I have learned a few things from these experiences.
Let me share some observations I made during a recent business trip to Bangkok. As we all know the vast majority of tourists are not mongers. They're in Bangkok to see the temples, visit the palace, eat the great inexpensive food (even though they are paying inflated prices for mediocre food in tourist traps) and stay in the very reasonably priced hotels. They're enjoying their vacations, pleased at how far their pound, euro, dollar stretches. They're not worried about paying THB100 or THB200 for something, its only a difference of a couple of dollars and after all, they are on vacation. This, along with the growth in Thailand's (and the regions) economy are impacting prices. I found these tourists absolutely maddening. For example, several of them, who are walking side-by-side across the width of the sidewalk, will suddenly stop in the middle of a sidewalk, pull out their map and try to figure out where they are, being oblivious to the fact that they have suddenly blocked the sidewalk for everyone behind them. On the other hand I saw farangs who sure looked and acted like local residents walk up to a food booth and order food without uttering one word of Thai. Not even a simple sawadee krap or khap khun. Locals, be honest, how many people do you know who have lived in Bangkok for years and speak little if any Thai. Based on my experiences and readings of forums for expatriate residents of Bangkok, this is true of most expats. Who is being ruder? I can forgive the tourists, they're just being thoughtless vacationers; but the expat? Come on, you live here, start using a little Thai. When I lived in San Francisco, I didn't have tourist come up to me and say guten tag wie gehts.
As for the tourist mongers. They're even worse. Loud, rude and drunk; making total asses out of themselves. Having no clue how things work and too lazy to take the time to bone up before their trip. [Now here's a tip guys, when a tourist monger stumbles across ISG asking for some guidance, don't be rude as some of you are, be friendly, help him out, it's in your best interest that he lands here knowing what he's doing. ] Like the regular tourists, they find everything (except perhaps the booze) so much cheaper than back in Great Britain, the States, Canada, and they're clueless to what they should be paying for stuff, so they spend money like there is no tomorrow, which effects the expectations of the local service providers. Pox on them! The tourist mongers that is. But hey, these are just a bunch of ordinary blokes having the time of their life in monger's heaven. I've done rude, stupid stuff in my life. Whom am I to judge?
I fall in a third category of visitors. The business traveler. Business travelers are a unique breed. We know what we are doing. We know the ins and outs of airports, hotels, the locales in which we do business. We make sure we learn and correctly pronounce a few common phrases in the local language, and make liberal use of them. We have to. We're doing business. It's all about making money, which is much easier if the locals like you, and using a few phrases and being able to make some intelligent comments about the city and country sure helps. I often visit several cities, spread across many time zones in a few days. I occasionally wake up in the middle of the night in a panic. I'm exhausted, unable to sleep soundly; I have no idea whether it's day or night, nor what city I'm in. I grope around the night stand looking for something with the name of the location of the hotel so I can orient myself. Not a nice feeling. If I have a little spare time I want a fuck. Often I don't have time to create a well planned course of action. I go online, find an escort, hope for the best and pay the freight. As I've mentioned in previous posts, VIP escorts in New York and London are not cheap! Now that I am doing some business in Southeast Asia again, I am trying to make a stop in Bangkok for R&R. I love the food; I like the vibe; I love the women; and for me, its the cheapest and best sex on the planet. I'll treat myself to one or two of Goldie's girls. Much cheaper than London. I have made a point of learning about the mongering scene. I know the gogo scene and the nightclub scene. I know the differences between the MPs on Ratchada and Soi 24. And I know the prices. It's a natural extension of how I conduct business. Now, if I've had a couple of drinks and I meet a hot girl I may not bargain as hard as I could. I have negotiated plenty of seven and eight figure contracts. I know how to bargain. But why? I ask myself. I'm not going to allow myself to be taken. I know I lose respect if I let that happen. I don't try to get the lowest price, but I do try to get a decent price. I barter a little. I know barter is fundamental to many cultures and can be done in a manner that is fun for both parties. I find a little fun and friendly bartering is a good way to test the girl. If she gets annoyed I walk. If she joins in the fun I've probably found a fun little girl. Then, if the lady gives me a good fuck, I'll give her a little extra. If she fucks my brains out, I'll show my appreciation. Am I screwing things up for the local guys. I don't think so. The local guy who knows the language and the customs as well as a resident should, should be able to differentiate himself from me. We all know there are two prices in Bangkok. Well, I think the knowledgeable guy can create a third price for himself somewhere in between the price for Thais and the price for most farangs.
Thailand is getting more expensive and the baht is getting stronger. Tourist mongers and my behavior are inconsequential parts of what is causing this. Asia is an economic powerhouse. Employment is strong. Wages are going up. Rural birth rates are dropping. Guys, don't underestimate the impact all of those families in Isan who used to have four or five daughters who are now are having one or two daughters will have on the monger scene. When I'm ready to retire, I may wish to settle in Bangkok. I love the city. But I wonder what it will be like when that time comes. For a white middle class kid life in the States in the 50's and early 60's was very idyllic. Sure not that way for kids today. Unfortunately good things don't last. Change is inevitable. And what is good for one person is not necessarily good for the other person. China's rising middle class is having a huge impact on North America and Europe's middle class. But that upwardly mobile family living in a high rise in Beijing, aspiring to buy an automobile may feel that the change is good.
Traveler1234
02-09-13, 22:01
There are a number of 'old timers' who think that they know the P$P situation far better than tourists. And that the few of them on here think that they can influence a multi-billion baht / multi hundreds of thousand active sex workers.
What they do not realise is that they do not see, in their isolated bubble of living in the past is that the world is changing.Well put . Long timers in any one place soon lose perspective. Things do change.
But fortunately, there's enough variety in LOS for all types. Peace!
There are a number of 'old timers' who think that they know the P$P situation far better than tourists. And that the few of them on here think that they can influence a multi-billion baht / multi hundreds of thousand active sex workers.
What they do not realise is that they do not see, in their isolated bubble of living in the past is that the world is changing. Tourists, coming once a year for a couple of weeks / a month know that Thailand is moving on from being a $20 / LT country and that nothing the old timers, sitting supping their 10 Singha of the day can do about it.
Whilst I am in Thailand it is my budget, my money to enjoy my scene that I have created in the weeks before I arrive. And in truth it may cost a tad more but the quality of the sex has not gone down. Maybe as a tourist I just get away from Sukhumvit a little more.Every plane landing in BKK brings some tens of mongerers, to stay conservative. These are the guys you mention. There are many planes landing every hour and all along the 24hrs. As we read here, some even go to sukh for a bunch of hours of a light connection to taste the ladies. I second your opinion: they come and go and happy to pay the price. The few hundreds of resident and the few tens of them reading and participating to ISG can't be influential to keep the price at their wish. Their preach will reach probably 0. 0001% of the tourist mongerers. Reaching doesn't mean convincing. Useless effort, I would say.
Useful is indicating the price range, the average level to act as a guidance,
But acting as price police is nonsense.
I think we simply become more discriminating and particular. I am not happy unless I get a full PSE out of a gal. BBBJ, rimming, dirty talk, all needs to be there, and oh, she needs to be pretty good to look at and not have a kid. Would not really matter where I lived; those are my expectations.
BTW, have your bowels moved yet?HAHA, thanks man.
Yes, it was a big hard turd and actually gave me a hemmoroid.
But you guys should know I am always full of shit!
HAHA.
Peace, Have a good day.
Scorchin1470
02-09-13, 23:51
But acting as price police is nonsense.Best comment I have read for many a day.
I have long determined that when I arrive the money I have will cover my basic needs and regular f*cks, be it FL, bar girls or MPs. Then if I run in to one I.
Want to take back to my hotel I pay the price, and if too high, take a day off to catch up financially.
Even in f*cking heaven you do not have to f*ck every day.
Well, a friend describes himself as a traveler rather than a tourist. The difference being that travelers try to get to know a bit more about local culture and absorb it.Purely semantic debate. In fact there are "people" and they are different. I consider myself as a tourist, although I do like to know about the culture, the people, and even the language of the country I visit. (currently visiting (travelling? Touristing?) japan, and learning the language. But I am still a tourist, or a traveller if you prefer. Who cares How you or your friend calls me, after all.
I am not happy unless I get a full PSE out of a gal. BBBJ, rimming, dirty talk, all needs to be there, and oh, she needs to be pretty good to look at and not have a kid.If she refuses to stop talking dirty, I would kick her out. Can't stand girls that act far too low class. Its okay the kids are not with the girl in the room at Tulip.
Well, a friend describes himself as a traveler rather than a tourist.I didn't think you were from the USA? In every other country (normal English) it is spelled "traveller".
I didn't think you were from the USA? In every other country (normal English) it is spelled "traveller".Other than being a chicken shit and calling a guy out for his spelling, do you have any contribution to make to the Tulip forum? Huh, Mr. Snuggles.
Well put. Long timers in any one place soon lose perspective. Things do change.
But fortunately, there's enough variety in LOS for all types. Peace!I would say it it the opposite. You might be a bit on with older retired types, but those that live, work, and participate in the society in which they live gain a perspective that the tourist just cannot have.
Every plane landing in BKK brings some tens of mongerers, to stay conservative. These are the guys you mention. There are many planes landing every hour and all along the 24hrs. As we read here, some even go to sukh for a bunch of hours of a light connection to taste the ladies. I second your opinion: they come and go and happy to pay the price. The few hundreds of resident and the few tens of them reading and participating to ISG can't be influential to keep the price at their wish. Their preach will reach probably 0. 0001% of the tourist mongerers. Reaching doesn't mean convincing. Useless effort, I would say.
Useful is indicating the price range, the average level to act as a guidance,
But acting as price police is nonsense.Actually I would say that the percentage of guys coming to monger is very small compared to the total tourist arrivals, and I think it is becoming less and less."Regular" tourists and business folk are the rule of the day.
Actually I would say that the percentage of guys coming to monger is very small compared to the total tourist arrivals, and I think it is becoming less and less."Regular" tourists and business folk are the rule of the day.I said indeed a few tens out of planes carrying from 150 to 3/400 pax. And these mongerers still outnumber the local, on daily basis as an absolute number. Go and imagine the overall numbers in a week, with daily arrivals. The locals are still the same number, day after day, same folks. The "tourist" monger gets serviced maybe once a day (it is his holiday, his fun, his money, his time) , the local will, maybe, twice a week. The girls can live and make money without the local (residents) business. The girls will not make a living with the local business for sure.
Scorchin1470
02-10-13, 13:58
I said indeed a few tens out of planes carrying from 150 to 3/400 pax. And these mongerers still outnumber the local, on daily basis as an absolute number. Go and imagine the overall numbers in a week, with daily arrivals. The locals are still the same number, day after day, same folks. The "tourist" monger gets serviced maybe once a day (it is his holiday, his fun, his money, his time) , the local will, maybe, twice a week. The girls can live and make money without the local (residents) business. The girls will not make a living with the local business for sure.D.
Were I to move to Thailand I would never want to be among the has beens constantly drowning their sorrows in the cheaper bars of Sukhumvit. Look at the several decaying oldies at the German bar on Soi 7; look inside the Beer Garden. The 'real' people who move to Thailand end up in country towns / cities either with a Thai wife or access to the local MPs and brothels.
Those who post on here, count them, they are very few are vastly outnumbered, in thousands, by tourists who generally never bother with this site.
Pass by Tulip on the 30/01, the day of my arrival, requested for 2 hours with my favorite, Nikki, bit plump, nice knockers (C+ cups) , look 5 and in her late 20ies or beginning of 30ies, very sweet and sensual girl, very accommodating, good massage skills and it's always a good plus, ball deep BBBJTCIM, AR, may A+ (I didn't try but did put my finger ther in the thick of the action) .2 shots with smile on her lips, sort of GFE fuck your brains out sort of session. I liked her particularly in reverse cowgirl with my thumb in her rectum and slamming that fat ass with the other hand (damn getting stiff just to think about it.).
D.
Were I to move to Thailand I would never want to be among the has beens constantly drowning their sorrows in the cheaper bars of Sukhumvit. Look at the several decaying oldies at the German bar on Soi 7; look inside the Beer Garden. The 'real' people who move to Thailand end up in country towns / cities either with a Thai wife or access to the local MPs and brothels.
Those who post on here, count them, they are very few are vastly outnumbered, in thousands, by tourists who generally never bother with this site.Not that some pubs in Nana, nearby NEP have less. And not german only. I was once in the lobby of Nana Hotel and I felt like being in Jurassic Park.
Pass by Tulip on the 30/01, the day of my arrival, requested for 2 hours with my favorite, Nikki, bit plump, nice knockers (C+ cups) , look 5 and in her late 20ies or beginning of 30ies, very sweet and sensual girl, very accommodating, good massage skills and it's always a good plus, ball deep BBBJTCIM, AR, may A+ (I didn't try but did put my finger ther in the thick of the action) .2 shots with smile on her lips, sort of GFE fuck your brains out sort of session. I liked her particularly in reverse cowgirl with my thumb in her rectum and slamming that fat ass with the other hand (damn getting stiff just to think about it.).Good report! I will have to check her out next time.
The thumb in the ass is good. I always notice their pussy tighten up around my cock when thumb is inserted.
D.
Were I to move to Thailand I would never want to be among the has beens constantly drowning their sorrows in the cheaper bars of Sukhumvit. Look at the several decaying oldies at the German bar on Soi 7; look inside the Beer Garden. The 'real' people who move to Thailand end up in country towns / cities either with a Thai wife or access to the local MPs and brothels.
Those who post on here, count them, they are very few are vastly outnumbered, in thousands, by tourists who generally never bother with this site.Lower Suk is awful. I avoid it at all costs and that included NEP. The entire area is very depressing.
The 'real' people who move to Thailand end up in country towns / cities either with a Thai wife or access to the local MPs and brothels.I always thought the real people had good paying jobs, lived in nice condos and had proper midso or hiso, fair skinned, Thai wives. Guess we have a different opinion of what a real person is.
Paul Kausch
02-11-13, 03:32
Lower Suk is awful. I avoid it at all costs and that included NEP. The entire area is very depressing.I would think the best way to escape the madness is to rent a place in the suburbs. For example Nonthaburi. I understand you can get decent houses and condos for THB9, 000 and less. This would allow you to escape the monger scene. You've got two expressways connecting you to downtown. You can catch expressway vans to Victory Monument. With the money you save you can pay for a cheap hotel on the nights you want to feast on the mongering scene. And you have more money to spend on pussy! Because I'm only in Bangkok 2-3 weeks at a time, I think of lower Sukhumvit as a big entertaining zoo, but I can't image living there. I like to watch the monkeys at the zoo, but I don't want to live with them. I'm thinking about moving to Bangkok when I retire in couple of years. I'm thinking of living somewhere along Sukhumvit but beyond Phrom Phong for the first year; then if I want to stay, I'll look for a house in the suburbs. I'm also thinking when I rent the house I'll find a reasonably attractive live in DW who will provide me with a few extra services!
Paul Kausch
02-11-13, 03:46
I always thought the real people had good paying jobs, lived in nice condos and had proper midso or hiso, fair skinned, Thai wives. Guess we have a different opinion of what a real person is.Right. Are you refer to the old fart living of his pension in Isan with his former bargirl wife who he found on TLL; or do you mean the expat exec with the multi-national pulling down a few hundred k (Pounds / Euros / Dollars) living in a big house in a gated community in Bangkok's suburbs? Last trip I was at a tailor when this guy walked in. When he left I found out he's the regional president of a Fortune 100 company. He was wearing a very nice suit and walked out with three new ones and a half-dozen shirts. Oh ya, he didn't carry them out, his driver did. Didn't get a glimpse of his wheels. Now he was definitely a very real guy.
I always thought the real people had good paying jobs, lived in nice condos and had proper midso or hiso, fair skinned, Thai wives. Guess we have a different opinion of what a real person is.I can't say if they are real people. I bet I will get flack for this. OK, no problem.
This is not about Tulip now, right?
The guys I have met that marry a Thai girl and move to the country are underachieving dudes with no money.
They marry girls who are mostly fat, wear flip flops, tank tops, shorts and have kids.
They are with these girls because they have limited resources, are not very attractive, and cannot find a women to like them in their countries.
Most I have met have a "retarded" or mentally disabled appearance. God bless them really. They are just trying to make a better life.
They are actually I believe the "real" farang I see living in Thailand.
The worst place for burnout, odd looking farang is Pattaya from my experience. Walk around the place at 2 or 3 pm and take a look. Kind of sad really, but I guess they are just trying to get through the day and make the best life they can. They are in other cities also, but seem to be concentrated in Pattaya. They are a big part of the "real" farang of Thailand. Mostly they are not wealthy or living in "nice" condos.
The guys I have met that marry a Thai girl and move to the country are underachieving dudes with no money.
I agree with your assessment of a large portion, probably the majority, of those falang living in Thailand. I consider these people as having fallen off the horse without the ability to get back on. Personally, I don't associate with these types. The falang I associate with, and those Thais I consider friends, work for large companies or own their own companies, live in nice homes or condos, and their wives / girlfriends would excommunicate me if I showed up with a bargirl in tow. I meet these people through work and other interests mostly, not sitting at Big Doggs watching the ladyboys pace back and forth.
I guess we all have different ideas of who the "real" falang are. This is why the whole concept of "real" falang is utter bullpuckey.
I can't say if they are real people. I bet I will get flack for this. OK, no problem.
This is not about Tulip now, right?
The guys I have met that marry a Thai girl and move to the country are underachieving dudes with no money.
They marry girls who are mostly fat, wear flip flops, tank tops, shorts and have kids.
They are with these girls because they have limited resources, are not very attractive, and cannot find a women to like them in their countries.
Most I have met have a "retarded" or mentally disabled appearance. God bless them really. They are just trying to make a better life.
They are actually I believe the "real" farang I see living in Thailand.
The worst place for burnout, odd looking farang is Pattaya from my experience. Walk around the place at 2 or 3 pm and take a look. Kind of sad really, but I guess they are just trying to get through the day and make the best life they can. They are in other cities also, but seem to be concentrated in Pattaya. They are a big part of the "real" farang of Thailand. Mostly they are not wealthy or living in "nice" condos.Can't say that your assessment is all that off, but in turn there are lots of farang men working both in BKK and upcountry as well who have gals with degree and jobs, who actually contribute, and I see this type of pairing more and more. As I said, farangs tend to be less intimidated by women who are successful. BKK is not the cheap place it once was, and if you have no means and / or no skills, it would be tough to make a go here. I would say most long term BKK farang residents I know were either successful back home or have been successful here or in other parts of Asia.
I agree with your assessment of a large portion, probably the majority, of those falang living in Thailand. I consider these people as having fallen off the horse without the ability to get back on. Personally, I don't associate with these types. The falang I associate with, and those Thais I consider friends, work for large companies or own their own companies, live in nice homes or condos, and their wives / girlfriends would excommunicate me if I showed up with a bargirl in tow. I meet these people through work and other interests mostly, not sitting at Big Doggs watching the ladyboys pace back and forth.
I guess we all have different ideas of who the "real" falang are. This is why the whole concept of "real" falang is utter bullpuckey.Well stated, and exactly the reason I rarely go to the "zone" in lower Suk. I have no desire to mingle with these folks. Yep, bringing a bar girl to a work function is a career limiting event, if not a career ending one.
Can't say that your assessment is all that off, but in turn there are lots of farang men working both in BKK and upcountry as well who have gals with degree and jobs, who actually contribute, and I see this type of pairing more and more.Indeed. My last gf has a Masters in Science and works for an MNC. I do have one falang friend I met outside of mongering who I would never in a million years introduce to her as the nature of his very fluent Thai gives away where he learned it.
I agree with your assessment of a large portion, probably the majority, of those falang living in Thailand. I consider these people as having fallen off the horse without the ability to get back on. Personally, I don't associate with these types. The falang I associate with, and those Thais I consider friends, work for large companies or own their own companies, live in nice homes or condos, and their wives / girlfriends would excommunicate me if I showed up with a bargirl in tow. I meet these people through work and other interests mostly, not sitting at Big Doggs watching the ladyboys pace back and forth.
I guess we all have different ideas of who the "real" falang are. This is why the whole concept of "real" falang is utter bullpuckey.It's hard to have love and money at the same time. Most people have to make a choice between the two. And this is true even in Western countries. People who dedicate themselves to their work and careers too much often end up divorced and paying substantial child support and alimony.
It's hard to have a balanced life, when there is so much competition in the workplace. Being good at what you do isn't enough. You also have to work like a slave to impress your colleagues and superiors.
Fascinating debate. Although not a resident, I share many of the views expressed below. But the lively debate below makes me wonder. To keep with this thread's theme, is Tulip still one's best bet for a guaranteed PSE in BKK? Or is there a better alternative? The last thing I want is to find a GF. I do not mind paying the price, but when in town I want a decent place and a decent-looking provider that deliver. A real sure thing. Any suggestions?
These days the PSE places are hurting in the looks department. Make the rounds of Tulip, Mango, Snow White and Cherry and see what you can find.
Well, I suppose that I could always lie down, close my eyes and think of Thailand. For PSE, skills outweigh looks anyway, but one has to draw a limit.
I was looking at these new Japanese-oriented places like Pink Massage and Yorimichi Massage. Surely for that price, ladies must deliver.
These days the PSE places are hurting in the looks department. Make the rounds of Tulip, Mango, Snow White and Cherry and see what you can find.Oh, that is for sure. The PSE shops keep getting worse and worse as far as looks are concerned. Last time in Mango was frightful. Bet 75% of the gals are at least 10 kilos overweight.
Well, I suppose that I could always lie down, close my eyes and think of Thailand. For PSE, skills outweigh looks anyway, but one has to draw a limit.
I was looking at these new Japanese-oriented places like Pink Massage and Yorimichi Massage. Surely for that price, ladies must deliver.The is not, never was, and never will be a clear cut correlation between cost and the ladies "delivering." In fact at many of the J-oriented places some of not the majority of the gals will only provide CBJ.
Paul Kausch
02-12-13, 18:51
The is not, never was, and never will be a clear cut correlation between cost and the ladies "delivering." In fact at many of the J-oriented places some of not the majority of the gals will only provide CBJ.Right. EZ will set you back 2400 plus a tip of around 500. Cherry and Mango are 800 plus a tip of around 1500. I think most experienced guys feel they have a better chance of a getting a good PSE at Cherry or Mango.
Oh, that is for sure. The PSE shops keep getting worse and worse as far as looks are concerned. Last time in Mango was frightful. Bet 75% of the gals are at least 10 kilos overweight.I happen to like moderately overweight women. They have bigger boobs, and I like their soft feel against my hard body.
Whether a woman is attractive or not depends on more than just one thing. A woman might have an average face and a great-looking body, or the other way around. You need to look the whole woman and not just at how much she weighs.
The is not, never was, and never will be a clear cut correlation between cost and the ladies "delivering." In fact at many of the J-oriented places some of not the majority of the gals will only provide CBJ.CBJ? And the Japanese customers tolerate that?
What I meant is that since I am not often in town, my playtime is limited and I cannot afford to explore and get in a game of hit & miss. I'd like to find a place that sort of guarantees a certain level of service, and I am ready to pay the price for that if need be. Nothing too kinky, but I hate to have to validate the list of things beforehand. It kills the mood for me. Consistency and predictability are key. I find quite hard to grasp why more money does not buy better service, better surroundings and better care of customer experience. But this is Thailand after all.
I find quite hard to grasp why more money does not buy better service, better surroundings and better care of customer experience. But this is Thailand after all.Because these are human beings providing very personal services. Not everyone will be willing to provide some services or others regardless of price. In order to find the right surroundings and right girl it takes some experimentation. I had an amazing girl at Nataree the other day but no kissing. I had an amazing sexual experience at another place but not a looker. Once I find he right combo I take a number and make a booking the next time.
Paul Kausch
02-14-13, 02:30
CBJ? And the Japanese customers tolerate that?
What I meant is that since I am not often in town, my playtime is limited and I cannot afford to explore and get in a game of hit & miss. I'd like to find a place that sort of guarantees a certain level of service, and I am ready to pay the price for that if need be. Nothing too kinky, but I hate to have to validate the list of things beforehand. It kills the mood for me. Consistency and predictability are key. I find quite hard to grasp why more money does not buy better service, better surroundings and better care of customer experience. But this is Thailand after all.I'd recommend Annie's, Cherry, Mango and Tulip, in that order, based on my experiences and my sense of what other forum members post. Annie's is physically old and rundown. The girls are average to above average. Annie's has a certain standard of service. BBBJ, CIM / COF, covered FS, some girls offer A-level (ask) , at least two pops. Same at Cherry and Mango, though some girls want more for a second pop. Cherry had just opened last time I was in Bangkok, so I didn't go there, but I get the impression Cherry ladies are a little better looking than Mango, but neither are as good as Annie's. In my experience, Tulip is a sure PSE, and you can find ladies there who are game for anything, and I mean anything. But some of the ladies are pretty rough looking. If you want to separate the financial transaction from the sex, as much as possible, I'd go with a high-end escort that offers real GFE. The MPs I recommend have you pay the establishment its fee. The girl is not involved in this transaction. After you're finished, you leave an appropriate tip. The only reason money should come up with the girl before our during the sex is if you want something special.
Because these are human beings providing very personal services. Not everyone will be willing to provide some services or others regardless of price. In order to find the right surroundings and right girl it takes some experimentation. I had an amazing girl at Nataree the other day but no kissing. I had an amazing sexual experience at another place but not a looker. Once I find he right combo I take a number and make a booking the next time.Your first sentence is correct, and therefore some women should not be working at certain venues. I like the shops that show on the photos what the gal is willing and not willing to do. I don't want to guess or play roulette. Service level and skill set are as important as looks to me. I am not going to buy a car without knowing what is under the hood and what options are included. Same goes for purchasing a P4P service. I live here and don't' play daily. Sometimes not even weekly, due to GF, work, etc; so when I do I want a "service guarantee."
CBJ? And the Japanese customers tolerate that?
What I meant is that since I am not often in town, my playtime is limited and I cannot afford to explore and get in a game of hit & miss. I'd like to find a place that sort of guarantees a certain level of service, and I am ready to pay the price for that if need be. Nothing too kinky, but I hate to have to validate the list of things beforehand. It kills the mood for me. Consistency and predictability are key. I find quite hard to grasp why more money does not buy better service, better surroundings and better care of customer experience. But this is Thailand after all.I am with you and that is why for the past 5 plus years I have pretty much only "partaken" at the PSE shops. For the most part sessions are pretty good to excellent, however the looks department has been waning quickly for the past year.
Yes, it is hard to get one's head around it, but as Pita said, it is a personal service gals are providing. My take on it is many are in the wrong business. Really the proliferation of oily shops has created competition for girls. Shops allow them more and more leeway in order to keep them. The "customer" is a bit down the list and is taken as a given, so to speak. One need look no farthar than the go-gos to see this in action as well. The music in most of them is horrific and I would bet the majority of customers both Asian and Western find it appalling. But, they are playing it for the gals not the customers. If they played music for the customer, the girls would quit and go to another bar. You're last sentence sums it up.
I am with you and that is why for the past 5 plus years I have pretty much only "partaken" at the PSE shops. For the most part sessions are pretty good to excellent, however the looks department has been waning quickly for the past year.
Yes, it is hard to get one's head around it, but as Pita said, it is a personal service gals are providing. My take on it is many are in the wrong business. Really the proliferation of oily shops has created competition for girls. Shops allow them more and more leeway in order to keep them. The "customer" is a bit down the list and is taken as a given, so to speak. One need look no farthar than the go-gos to see this in action as well. The music in most of them is horrific and I would bet the majority of customers both Asian and Western find it appalling. But, they are playing it for the gals not the customers. If they played music for the customer, the girls would quit and go to another bar. You're last sentence sums it up.I think a lot of you guys are very smart. Thus, many of you seem to over analyze this place. I find it sad in away really. It is so stupid to think more money means better service. Too many of you buy into that, unfortunately.
I just left BKK and had the time of my life. 30 GFE sessions in just a few weeks.
Maybe I am more adventeruous, I don't know.
I never BF at the Gogo's. Everything else is fair game. There are many diamonds in the rough in the MP's. And SW's, if you know what you are doing.
Each trip for me gets better. I learn from each trip and use that knowledge to improve my next one. But, it does take some time and effort.
Paul Kausch
02-14-13, 05:31
I am with you and that is why for the past 5 plus years I have pretty much only "partaken" at the PSE shops. For the most part sessions are pretty good to excellent, however the looks department has been waning quickly for the past year.
Yes, it is hard to get one's head around it, but as Pita said, it is a personal service gals are providing. My take on it is many are in the wrong business. Really the proliferation of oily shops has created competition for girls. Shops allow them more and more leeway in order to keep them. The "customer" is a bit down the list and is taken as a given, so to speak. One need look no farthar than the go-gos to see this in action as well. The music in most of them is horrific and I would bet the majority of customers both Asian and Western find it appalling. But, they are playing it for the gals not the customers. If they played music for the customer, the girls would quit and go to another bar. You're last sentence sums it up.Stickman has posted article chronicling the difficulties gogo bars are having finding and retaining girls. He's reported they've begun to poach each other's dancers. Is there a diminishing supply of SW? In the decade from 1965 to 1970, the natural change in Thailand (live births minus deaths) was over 1, 025, 000 per year on average. The ratio between live births and deaths was 3. 82 to 1. By 1990 to 1995 natural change dropped to 737, 000 per year. By 2000 to 2005 it was down to 386, 000 and the live birth to death ration was 1. 79 to 1. Infant mortality is dropping, life expectancy is increasing. The population is getting older. Bangkok hotels and restaurants are having difficulty finding employees. I read there are labor shortages in Thailand and pressure to increase the numbers of guest workings. Are these demographic changes and the strong labor market affecting the P4P industry? Are the girls able to make more demands on their employers? Does their scarcity embolden them to offer poorer service? Any thoughts?
I think a lot of you guys are very smart. Thus, many of you seem to over analyze this place. I find it sad in away really. It is so stupid to think more money means better service. Too many of you buy into that, unfortunately.
I just left BKK and had the time of my life. 30 GFE sessions in just a few weeks.
Maybe I am more adventeruous, I don't know.
I never BF at the Gogo's. Everything else is fair game. There are many diamonds in the rough in the MP's. And SW's, if you know what you are doing.
Each trip for me gets better. I learn from each trip and use that knowledge to improve my next one. But, it does take some time and effort.The "jig" is up. 15 years ago BKK was not really on the map so much. Without so much info online, there were dozens of diamonds in the rough to be met every night. But now these gals know their value and even the ones who are not attractive to Asian guys, know they are attractive to Western dudes. So, in many of our minds, the part is over. Last night in Thermae a friend was talking to a gal. After about 5 min her friend chimes in and tells him she wants 3k short and 5k long and if he wants to take her, take her, but cut out the chatter. Needless to say my friend got away from them both. I wish this was an isolated incident, but really it is not. Attitudes are just bad. Really, they are. Good looking freelances are far more likely to have attitudes and far less likely to perform no matter what you pay. And yes, it is sad, but this is what happens as a country develops. There is nothing short of a full fledged eco crises like 97 that would reverse the trend, and even then I think we are clearly on this path. Oh well, I am just glad I got to experience what I got to experience, and hey, I still have a good romp every now and then in the oilies.
Luvpuss, I don't think you will find a single longterm resident here that says it is better now than it was 10 yrs ago, or one that says he has just as much fun.
Thanks for the various opinions. Much appreciated. One of the elements of scarcity of good talent and attitude in BKK is the fact that many ladies can choose to work abroad, in KL, Singapore, HK, Macau, Seoul etc, where net wages can be much higher. All that talent abroad is lost to the home market.
Your first sentence is correctYes. Also the rest of my post was correct.
Yes. Also the rest of my post was correct.Not arguing with you Pita, but for me shopping around like that and putting up with bad service to find the few goods ones is just not worth the time (read effort) or the money. When I partake, I want a sure thing and that is why I normally book girls who have had multiple good reviews from different guys over a stretch of time.
Not arguing with you Pita, but for me shopping around like that and putting up with bad service to find the few goods ones is just not worth the time (read effort) or the money. When I partake, I want a sure thing and that is why I normally book girls who have had multiple good reviews from different guys over a stretch of time.Fair enough. You are also shopping. You are just doing your window shopping in the reviews rather than exploring and seeing what works for you. I guess I used to do the same thing a few years ago. I identified that another member and I had similar tastes and so I'd ride in his slipstream.
I just left BKK and had the time of my life. 30 GFE sessions in just a few weeks.
Maybe I am more adventeruous, I don't know.I think part of it is that you come and enjoy something not available to you otherwise. I used to have that experience. 5 days in BKK and 13 girls or some such. I recall discussing it with a taxi driver on the way to the airport. But having moved to Asia I can pop over to Orchard Tower any night. I can hop a plane to Jakarta or Bangkok any weekend. So it isn't as crucial for me to get in as many pops as possible any more. Also, I'm becoming more picky as the girls aren't as exotic looking to me as they were originally. And I think that as was discussed, the girls that are better lookers or have a bit more of a head on their shoulders simply are choosing to earn money in other industries or in different segments of this industry.
The music in most of them is horrific and I would bet the majority of customers both Asian and Western find it appalling.When I do go into SC I hit Shark and Cowboy. I love the music. Where are you finding this appalling music?
Last night in Thermae a friend was talking to a gal. After about 5 min her friend chimes in and tells him she wants 3k short and 5k long and if he wants to take her, take her, but cut out the chatter. Needless to say my friend got away from them both.In part this is due to the venue. The Japanese that go to Thermae aren't interested in getting to know the girl and chatting. They approach the girl, strike a deal, and off they go (for 5 brief moments). So you and your friend rock up and are complicating the girls' business model.
And yes, it is sad, but this is what happens as a country develops.Sad for us. Great for them! So where do we move to in order to live out the good ol' days again? Myanmar? North Korea?
Luvpuss, I don't think you will find a single longterm resident here that says it is better now than it was 10 yrs ago, or one that says he has just as much fun.Perhaps these longterm residents need to adapt. Start looking on WeChat, LINE, Badoo? Plenty of fun to be had if you look like a slimmer French guy.
Fair enough. You are also shopping. You are just doing your window shopping in the reviews rather than exploring and seeing what works for you. I guess I used to do the same thing a few years ago. I identified that another member and I had similar tastes and so I'd ride in his slipstream.
When I do go into SC I hit Shark and Cowboy. I love the music. Where are you finding this appalling music?
Sad for us. Great for them! So where do we move to in order to live out the good ol' days again? Myanmar? North Korea?
Perhaps these longterm residents need to adapt. Start looking on WeChat, LINE, Badoo? Plenty of fun to be had if you look like a slimmer French guy.Sometimes I take a girl on a whim, but more times than naught that ends up in a less than satisfying experience.
You live in Sing, eh? I have had some of my best Asia times in Batam back in '00-'03. Love those Indo gals.
I "like" lots of music from, 70s punk, some 70s/80s new wave, good old classic rock, early 20th Century jazz, grunge, to late 80s hip hop ala Public Enemy, but I love Alt-Country/Americana; Wilco for example. I despise modern hip hop, abhor dance, trance, dub-step, house, or any DJ oriented music, and especially can't stand the insipid music at places like Baccara. Would be nice to enter a gogo bar and hear some Echo and the Bunnymen.
Where to go? No idea. Not hearing good reports about many places these days. There is Heiku on the Viet Chinese border, that should still be good, but hey, I am way too lazy to travel somewhere "just for sex." Has to be more in it to get me to put up with the hassle.
Nah, dating or hook up sites are not for me. I have a pretty serious GF whom I live with. I don't take girls numbers and don't want any sort of relationship with them outside of a good 90 minutes session. Just a line I won't cross when I have a GF.
I checked out Tulip again after a long break! OMG the girls there now all look like old hags! Caked on makeup, and I am sure all about 40-45.
I checked out Tulip again after a long break! OMG the girls there now all look like old hags! Caked on makeup, and I am sure all about 40-45.I happen to like women 40-45 years of age. Some of them are good-looking, if they take care of themselves. And they are usually better in bed than younger women are, because they have a lot more experience with horny guys.
Perhaps Tulip Massage needs to post some pictures at its website, so that people can judge for themselves whether they like the women there or not. Because not every guy will have the same opinion about a woman.
I checked out Tulip again after a long break! OMG the girls there now all look like old hags! Caked on makeup, and I am sure all about 40-45.That is just a mask they put on if they are not in the mood to go with a customer. But, you pick one and they take it off in the room, standing in front of you will be a 22 yr. Old Stunner!
Just the word Tulip gives me a hardon. I've had: Jo Jo, Tina, Kat, Dao, Dao, Jo Jo, Jo Jo. Why Jo Jo a lot? Don't know, she isn't such a performer, but I just fancy her. She's the type I would ask out on a date. Dao is the star (literally in Thai). Perfect porn star body, speaks English and will do whatever you want. Spanking is my thing, and she seemed unfamiliar with that particular habit, which made it sweeter in a way. She took it like a man, but needed some encouragement to give it.
Best memory? Maybe Tina. Very short, with big bottom and pretty face with big doe eyes. Natural breasts too. She looked so innocent, fresh from the Isaan village. Then as I lay on my front and she got me really worked up, she took a vibrator from her box of tricks and shoved it against my arse. Wow! Later she lay across the bed raised her arse in the air and turned to look at me with her big serious eyes, as if to say "do whatever you like". Wonderful. I think she started her own massage shop, so let's hope she has trained her charges well!
Shadow6491
02-20-13, 01:11
Try out Gob or Gof. She is working there now and a very good performer. Gives a real goo deep throat really forces it into her mouth. I am getting a hard on writing this thinking of it.
Try out Gob or Gof. She is working there now and a very good performer. Gives a real goo deep throat really forces it into her mouth. I am getting a hard on writing this thinking of it.Anyone got a picture of her? Reports mention she has Arab features. A Thai / Middle eastern mix sounds interesting.
Jeff Sinclair
02-20-13, 19:33
Just the word Tulip gives me a hardon. I've had: Jo Jo, Tina, Kat, Dao, Dao, Jo Jo, Jo Jo. Why Jo Jo a lot? Don't know, she isn't such a performer, but I just fancy her. She's the type I would ask out on a date. Dao is the star (literally in Thai). Perfect porn star body, speaks English and will do whatever you want. Spanking is my thing, and she seemed unfamiliar with that particular habit, which made it sweeter in a way. She took it like a man, but needed some encouragement to give it.
Best memory? Maybe Tina. Very short, with big bottom and pretty face with big doe eyes. Natural breasts too. She looked so innocent, fresh from the Isaan village. Then as I lay on my front and she got me really worked up, she took a vibrator from her box of tricks and shoved it against my arse. Wow! Later she lay across the bed raised her arse in the air and turned to look at me with her big serious eyes, as if to say "do whatever you like". Wonderful. I think she started her own massage shop, so let's hope she has trained her charges well!Agree with your memories Tina was a great little star.
Also around at that time was rose very similar to rose small slightly chubby issan girl but light skin great skills in all areas.
Once did an over night with her sad to say never found out where she went to think it was snow white or mango.
I checked out Tulip again after a long break! OMG the girls there now all look like old hags! Caked on makeup, and I am sure all about 40-45.I disagree with this post. Had a couple of session with a certain Tulip girl that was recommended in a previous post. She may be slightly over 25, but she looks good; there is relatively not so much make up, just enough to look good. She greeted me in the room by grabbing my cock and with French kisses. She sucks, rims and fucks like a fiend. I shoved (very gently) a buttplug up her ass and fucked her pussy. That was quite an experience. Tight asshole and the best thing was, that in 2 hours, was a full on fuckfest. I came 3 times. The next time, will try for 4 load. Need to think of more kinky stuff to talk her into doing with me.
Steven Lee
03-07-13, 07:42
Just had a nice session with Pammy. Went to Tulip around noon. Only 4 women. Pammy was the only doable one. She's cute, slender. 20s. Paid 2, 100 (I think) for 90 min.
Pammy is a very sweet girl. Let me do pretty much what I wanted. Showered together. She is slender with almost no tits. Gave me a BBBJ in the shower. Probed her backside during the shower, so I figured A+ was on the menu. Went to the bed. She gave a nice prolonged AR. I think she would have done it as long as I wanted, but I wanted some oral. She gave a soft slow BBBJ for 10 min. Had her lie down and probed her pussy with 1 then 2 then 3, 4.5 fingers. Almost got my whole hand in (I've got small hands. She would wince whenever I went too deep, but she didn't complain. Rubbed her clit as I reamed her. She was extremely wet. Time for the main event. She put on the cap and I slowly entered her ass doggy style. It was obvious that it was a little painful for her. I had to go very slow. But she took it pretty deep and pretty well. Her ass is on the loose side, so I know she's done plenty of anal. Fucked her slow till I came. We cuddled a bit then I was ready for more. This time I just had her rim me and give me BBBJ till I came in her mouth. Took a shower together. Gave her 200 tip. Left a happy customer.
I disagree with this post. Had a couple of session with a certain Tulip girl that was recommended in a previous post. She may be slightly over 25, but she looks good; there is relatively not so much make up, just enough to look good. She greeted me in the room by grabbing my cock and with French kisses. She sucks, rims and fucks like a fiend. I shoved (very gently) a buttplug up her ass and fucked her pussy. That was quite an experience. Tight asshole and the best thing was, that in 2 hours, was a full on fuckfest. I came 3 times. The next time, will try for 4 load. Need to think of more kinky stuff to talk her into doing with me.Did they provide it or do you carry one with you?
I disagree with this post. Had a couple of session with a certain Tulip girl that was recommended in a previous post. She may be slightly over 25, but she looks good; there is relatively not so much make up, just enough to look good. She greeted me in the room by grabbing my cock and with French kisses. She sucks, rims and fucks like a fiend. I shoved (very gently) a buttplug up her ass and fucked her pussy. That was quite an experience. Tight asshole and the best thing was, that in 2 hours, was a full on fuckfest. I came 3 times. The next time, will try for 4 load. Need to think of more kinky stuff to talk her into doing with me.Did they provide it or do you carry one with you?
A couple of years back, Tulips was amazing, with a lot of chicks. Now there are a very few avg looking chicks
Previous fav of mine was Cat, young, slim and tender! It was always a GFE experience with her! . Now I think other ones like mango and snow white have taken over.
She may be slightly over 25, but she looks good; there is relatively not so much make up, just enough to look good. She greeted me in the room by grabbing my cock and with French kisses. She sucks, rims and fucks like a fiend. I shoved (very gently) a buttplug up her ass and fucked her pussy. That was quite an experience. Tight asshole and the best thing was, that in 2 hours, was a full on fuckfest. I came 3 times. The next time, will try for 4 load. Need to think of more kinky stuff to talk her into doing with me.Yes, Tulip Massage is one of the best, when it comes to putting the lady's pussy and ass to the test.
You can find reasonably attractive women at most massage places. But not many women will let you cum as many times as you want with them, and even fewer women will let you have anal sex with them.
One big advantage P4P women have over regular women is that supposedly they are better in bed with guys. This is what guys are looking for, when they choose to go to P4P ladies, instead of looking for a regular girlfriend. But too many P4P ladies aren't much better in bed than regular girlfriends are. They limit your pussy-sex to one cumshot only, and they don't allow you to have any anal sex at all. It's no surprise that many guys are disappointed by their experiences at massage parlors.
Anal sex isn't a big thing for most guys. It's something they can do without. But having as many cumshots as you want with your pretty lady is a must for most guys for complete satisfaction. The most popular massage women are those who not only invite you for another ride with them but they also try to give you another erection, after you've lost it, so that you can continue to perform with them beyond your normal abilities. They use various tricks and techniques to make you perform like a porn stud with them, so that you will enjoy the full 2-hour session with them. They try to satisfy you completely, no matter how many cumshots you've had. They are the women who care about how you feel in the end.
While the least popular massage women are those who see their encounter with you as strictly a one-cumshot kind of deal. One cumshot is all you get with them, no matter how satisfied or unsatisfied you are. Your satisfaction is irrelevant for them. They don't care how you feel in the end.
A lot of guys are probably satisfied with one cumshot only. But it makes a big difference whether your lady invites you for another ride with her or not. Because a lady, who invites you for another ride, shows you that she cares about how you feel and that she wants to satisfy you completely. Even if you say 'no' to her, you still feel good about being invited to have another go with her. It makes you feel like a welcome stud with her, rather than a tolerated intruder. And it's this feeling of your erection being sexually welcome between the legs of your pretty lady that encourages guys to come back to the same lady, rather than go to some other massage parlor and look for some other lady.
Did they provide it or do you carry one with you?BYOBP (Bring Your own ButtPlug).
BYOBP (Bring Your own ButtPlug).Just stick your thumb in there it works fine.
BYOBP (Bring Your own ButtPlug).Is there a good place to buy this kind of thing in Bangkok? I wouldn't want people to see a buttplug in my luggage, when they inspecting it at the airport, and then ask me what is it? And what is it for?
I would probably feel so nervous about it being in my luggage that they might suspect I'm intending to do something bad and hold me for questioning.
Is there a good place to buy this kind of thing in Bangkok? I wouldn't want people to see a buttplug in my luggage, when they inspecting it at the airport, and then ask me what is it? And what is it for?
I would probably feel so nervous about it being in my luggage that they might suspect I'm intending to do something bad and hold me for questioning.In the extremely unlikely event they don't know what a butt plug is used for (BTW, you could show them) and they held you for questioning, what would you be charged with? What is the penalty for doing something bad? Man up Dan, but since you're so nervous and afraid you can buy sex toys from the some of the vendors along Sukhumvit sidewalk.
Crazy4Thai
03-10-13, 14:51
In the extremely unlikely event they don't know what a butt plug is used for (BTW, you could show them) and they held you for questioning, what would you be charged with? What is the penalty for doing something bad? Man up Dan, but since you're so nervous and afraid you can buy sex toys from the some of the vendors along Sukhumvit sidewalk.While that is certainly true it is, IMO, a pathetic collection and those vendors have no idea what a butt plug is. Just bring your own. Do not worry about getting checked. Nobody really cares about that shit unless you have a business selling it and do not pay tea money.
I suggest everyone calms down.
I can understand the perspective of the forum members who are long time residents of Thailand. I can empathize with their frustration (anger) with the changes they are witnessing and impact tourism is having on Thailand in general and Bangkok in particular. I recently read that Bangkok is the world's third most visited destination, after Paris and London! On the other hand, I don't think it's fair to attack tourists in general in one fell swoop.
I learned growing up that the residents of a tourist destination tend to resent the tourists, even though they are driving the local economy. They are perceived as intruders who are constantly inconveniencing the residents. And they're unfamiliarity with the locale sure can make them look stupid. But not all of them are stupid, nor are all the locals model citizens.
Growing up, my family was constantly moving. To give you an idea, I attended second grade in three different states without repeating the grade. As an adult I have traveled extensively throughout the world on business. And as I mentioned in the previous paragraph I have lived in cities that are among the world's top tourist destinations. I have learned a few things from these experiences.
Let me share some observations I made during a recent business trip to Bangkok. As we all know the vast majority of tourists are not mongers. They're in Bangkok to see the temples, visit the palace, eat the great inexpensive food (even though they are paying inflated prices for mediocre food in tourist traps) and stay in the very reasonably priced hotels. They're enjoying their vacations, pleased at how far their pound, euro, dollar stretches. They're not worried about paying THB100 or THB200 for something, its only a difference of a couple of dollars and after all, they are on vacation. This, along with the growth in Thailand's (and the regions) economy are impacting prices. I found these tourists absolutely maddening. For example, several of them, who are walking side-by-side across the width of the sidewalk, will suddenly stop in the middle of a sidewalk, pull out their map and try to figure out where they are, being oblivious to the fact that they have suddenly blocked the sidewalk for everyone behind them. On the other hand I saw farangs who sure looked and acted like local residents walk up to a food booth and order food without uttering one word of Thai. Not even a simple sawadee krap or khap khun. Locals, be honest, how many people do you know who have lived in Bangkok for years and speak little if any Thai. Based on my experiences and readings of forums for expatriate residents of Bangkok, this is true of most expats. Who is being ruder? I can forgive the tourists, they're just being thoughtless vacationers; but the expat? Come on, you live here, start using a little Thai. When I lived in San Francisco, I didn't have tourist come up to me and say guten tag wie gehts.
As for the tourist mongers. They're even worse. Loud, rude and drunk; making total asses out of themselves. Having no clue how things work and too lazy to take the time to bone up before their trip. [Now here's a tip guys, when a tourist monger stumbles across ISG asking for some guidance, don't be rude as some of you are, be friendly, help him out, it's in your best interest that he lands here knowing what he's doing. ] Like the regular tourists, they find everything (except perhaps the booze) so much cheaper than back in Great Britain, the States, Canada, and they're clueless to what they should be paying for stuff, so they spend money like there is no tomorrow, which effects the expectations of the local service providers. Pox on them! The tourist mongers that is. But hey, these are just a bunch of ordinary blokes having the time of their life in monger's heaven. I've done rude, stupid stuff in my life. Whom am I to judge?
I fall in a third category of visitors. The business traveler. Business travelers are a unique breed. We know what we are doing. We know the ins and outs of airports, hotels, the locales in which we do business. We make sure we learn and correctly pronounce a few common phrases in the local language, and make liberal use of them. We have to. We're doing business. It's all about making money, which is much easier if the locals like you, and using a few phrases and being able to make some intelligent comments about the city and country sure helps. I often visit several cities, spread across many time zones in a few days. I occasionally wake up in the middle of the night in a panic. I'm exhausted, unable to sleep soundly; I have no idea whether it's day or night, nor what city I'm in. I grope around the night stand looking for something with the name of the location of the hotel so I can orient myself. Not a nice feeling. If I have a little spare time I want a fuck. Often I don't have time to create a well planned course of action. I go online, find an escort, hope for the best and pay the freight. As I've mentioned in previous posts, VIP escorts in New York and London are not cheap! Now that I am doing some business in Southeast Asia again, I am trying to make a stop in Bangkok for R&R. I love the food; I like the vibe; I love the women; and for me, its the cheapest and best sex on the planet. I'll treat myself to one or two of Goldie's girls. Much cheaper than London. I have made a point of learning about the mongering scene. I know the gogo scene and the nightclub scene. I know the differences between the MPs on Ratchada and Soi 24. And I know the prices. It's a natural extension of how I conduct business. Now, if I've had a couple of drinks and I meet a hot girl I may not bargain as hard as I could. I have negotiated plenty of seven and eight figure contracts. I know how to bargain. But why? I ask myself. I'm not going to allow myself to be taken. I know I lose respect if I let that happen. I don't try to get the lowest price, but I do try to get a decent price. I barter a little. I know barter is fundamental to many cultures and can be done in a manner that is fun for both parties. I find a little fun and friendly bartering is a good way to test the girl. If she gets annoyed I walk. If she joins in the fun I've probably found a fun little girl. Then, if the lady gives me a good fuck, I'll give her a little extra. If she fucks my brains out, I'll show my appreciation. Am I screwing things up for the local guys. I don't think so. The local guy who knows the language and the customs as well as a resident should, should be able to differentiate himself from me. We all know there are two prices in Bangkok. Well, I think the knowledgeable guy can create a third price for himself somewhere in between the price for Thais and the price for most farangs.
Thailand is getting more expensive and the baht is getting stronger. Tourist mongers and my behavior are inconsequential parts of what is causing this. Asia is an economic powerhouse. Employment is strong. Wages are going up. Rural birth rates are dropping. Guys, don't underestimate the impact all of those families in Isan who used to have four or five daughters who are now are having one or two daughters will have on the monger scene. When I'm ready to retire, I may wish to settle in Bangkok. I love the city. But I wonder what it will be like when that time comes. For a white middle class kid life in the States in the 50's and early 60's was very idyllic. Sure not that way for kids today. Unfortunately good things don't last. Change is inevitable. And what is good for one person is not necessarily good for the other person. China's rising middle class is having a huge impact on North America and Europe's middle class. But that upwardly mobile family living in a high rise in Beijing, aspiring to buy an automobile may feel that the change is good.I greatly appreciate this post. I am visiting Bangkok for the first time soon and while I know I fall into the category of tourist, I have bought cds to try to learn a little of the language and while I drink I never get drunk. While I want to have fun, I am very respectful of others and want to learn as much as I can about another culture so I can have the best experience possible when visiting.
I have hopes to meet people like you while I am there so I can learn as much as I can to make my experience as positive as I can.
Good Grief. Who cares! I go back and forth with an assortment of sex toys. Never once stopped. And I am sure the folks at the screening machines have seen it all a thousand times over. I never check luggage. Carry on. Let them smirk.
Is there a good place to buy this kind of thing in Bangkok? I wouldn't want people to see a buttplug in my luggage, when they inspecting it at the airport, and then ask me what is it? And what is it for?
I would probably feel so nervous about it being in my luggage that they might suspect I'm intending to do something bad and hold me for questioning.
Is there a good place to buy this kind of thing in Bangkok? I wouldn't want people to see a buttplug in my luggage, when they inspecting it at the airport, and then ask me what is it? And what is it for?
I would probably feel so nervous about it being in my luggage that they might suspect I'm intending to do something bad and hold me for questioning.Just stick it up your ass when you go through security. They will not search for it.
Good Grief. Who cares! I go back and forth with an assortment of sex toys. Never once stopped. And I am sure the folks at the screening machines have seen it all a thousand times over. I never check luggage. Carry on. Let them smirk.I think they can see everything that's inside your luggage with their screening machines. They probably see it every time you go through security. And if they can't identify the object they see on their screen, then they open your luggage and look at it.
I suppose, some people value their privacy more than others. I don't feel comfortable with showing my private life to strangers, who have no business knowing it. Because I know from my experience that when people dislike and disagree with your private life, then they can give you a hard time for no apparent reason.
I had a immigration guy go through my stuff one trip. Had a dildo with me. He said " We have seen everything so no big deal" "If it is legal to buy and have it then you can take it or bring it with you.
Big Poppa II
04-02-13, 11:02
Finally I made to Bangkok. Based on all I read here in ISG I decided to pay Tulip a visit and I was not disappointed. As I'm looking at the ladies there was no one who really stood up, sensing my indecision the lady at the counter suggested I pick the lady in "the green top" I asked if she was A+ and the answer was yes, that's all I needed and agreed to take her. As it turned out she had a perfect body in my opinion, some folks would think she is too heavy. It appeared more like the body of a Latina to me. Off to the room we go, she is walking in front of me showing her beautiful ass.
In the room she said "I'll take care of you" and she did. I'm sure you all know what happened next, shower with BtoB and BBBJ, then to the bed and more BBBJ, this time taking everything in and gagging which I did not find too appealing. A few minutes of rimming while I explored front and back and then she put on the rain coat and assumed the position asking "f* my a* baby" After the first pop I was spent, cannot deal with the heat and humidity, is killing me. She started a not so bad massage and then we went at it again, doggy and finish in mish.
Overall a very good experience, not too much moaning and just the right attitude in my opinion. For those interested her name was Gop.
Thanks to all of you who post information about the scene in Bangkok. More reports about Annie's, NEP, Thermae, Beer Garden, Dr. BJ, Som Haven and Soi Cowboy to come soon.
Good luck, BPII
Overall a very good experience, not too much moaning and just the right attitude in my opinion. For those interested her name was Gop.
Thanks to all of you who post information about the scene in Bangkok. More reports about Annie's, NEP, Thermae, Beer Garden, Dr. BJ, Som Haven and Soi Cowboy to come soon.
Good luck, BPIII had her this past Sunday as well. Nice features, Thai Middle Eastern look. Great hour glass body and a nice ass. Probably the best body on a Thai girl I have ever had. Her performance was a PSE but very mechanical. By reading your post I pretty much had the exact same routine with her. Lot of fake moaning and dirty talk.
I will be visiting Tulip soon and thought of getting my hands onJo-Jo. Anybody knows if she is doing A+?
Another question (for the layman). What is better: Tulip or Annies? And why?
Thanks,
As
I had her this past Sunday as well. Nice features, Thai Middle Eastern look. Great hour glass body and a nice ass. Probably the best body on a Thai girl I have ever had. Her performance was a PSE but very mechanical. By reading your post I pretty much had the exact same routine with her. Lot of fake moaning and dirty talk.You can make the lady's moaning and dirty talk more sincere and her movements less mechanical by going after her clit with a well-lubricated hand, during your anal sex with her. Here are a couple porn examples of what I'm talking about:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/60d19dccf123b14b6cab7fafb5550f3b/tumblr_mgqlw8ogqZ1rjo8dto1_500.gif
http://i.gifeye.com/13602.gif
It takes two to have a Porn Star Experience. You've got to play your part as her porn stud, and not just behave like an amateur with her. If the lady sounds insincere and her movements are mechanical, then this should be a clue for you that your performance is less than stellar wth her. Instead of blaming her, you should look at some porn pictures of what porn studs do to increase the pleasure for their ladies and make their Porn Star Experience more real for them.
The big advantage of having anal sex with a pretty lady, rather than vaginal, is that anal sex gives you better access to her clit with your hand. As the porn-links above demonstrate, you can put some lube on your hand and masturbate your lady's clit so well that she will orgasm for you, even while you are nailing her ass with your cock.
I will be visiting Tulip soon and thought of getting my hands onJo-Jo. Anybody knows if she is doing A+?
Another question (for the layman). What is better: Tulip or Annies? And why?
Thanks,
AsWhat is better, McDonalds or Burger King, and why?
What is better, McDonalds or Burger King, and why?Definitely the french fries are crispy and far more tasty at Burger King. Tulip has some ladies, like Jo Jo, Gof, Pim and Opor who stand out far better than others. Tulip is my Burger King for that reason. How about you? Like I mentioned in my earlier posts, Opor also lactates. So the milkshake is a plus. Enjoy the warm days with a cool splash.
Definitely the french fries are crispy and far more tasty at Burger King. Tulip has some ladies, like Jo Jo, Gof, Pim and Opor who stand out far better than others. Tulip is my Burger King for that reason. How about you? Like I mentioned in my earlier posts, Opor also lactates. So the milkshake is a plus. Enjoy the warm days with a cool splash.I found the lactation rather off putting. Of course I find women that have already produced offspring and whose stomachs look like they have had six litters of pups to be off putting as well.
Phoenix949
04-06-13, 16:13
I greatly appreciate this post. I am visiting Bangkok for the first time soon and while I know I fall into the category of tourist, I have bought cds to try to learn a little of the language and while I drink I never get drunk. While I want to have fun, I am very respectful of others and want to learn as much as I can about another culture so I can have the best experience possible when visiting.
I have hopes to meet people like you while I am there so I can learn as much as I can to make my experience as positive as I can.This Report Shows and differentiate the things happens in many places in the world, but no places else as Thailand has the Situation that the mongering is so lovely and easy. So this Report should be a must to read for any man coming to Thailand. If cleary read and follow, then the overpricing and bad behaviour will be reduced a lot!
This is the same way as I already do half of my life. I am also on the Business side and travelling around the world. No place else in the world ist so easy as in Thailand, so please gentlemen don't spoil the game. Ist too funny.
I found the lactation rather off putting. Of course I find women that have already produced offspring and whose stomachs look like they have had six litters of pups to be off putting as well.Perhaps you were bottle-fed, and that's why lactating tits hold no attraction for you.
I know for sure that I was breast-fed, and lactating tits look like a real treasure-trove to me. To latch on a lady's thick nipple with my mouth and milk her tit with my tongue for a good 20-minutes or so is the stuff my wet dreams are made of.
I found from my experience that plain tit-sucking often isn't much of a turn on for most ladies. But when I masturbate the lady's clit with my hand and suck her tit at the same time, then this often brings her quicker to orgasm than just clit masturbation by itself. I think a lot of ladies like to have their tits sucked, when they are getting some kind of clitoral stimulation, either from the fuck or from you directly massaging her clit and pussy lips with your hand.
Paul Kausch
04-06-13, 20:02
I found the lactation rather off putting. Of course I find women that have already produced offspring and whose stomachs look like they have had six litters of pups to be off putting as well.
Perhaps you were bottle-fed, and that's why lactating tits hold no attraction for you.Perhaps Goat does not have an oral fixation with accompanying fetishes. Just joking. To each his own. I remember when my ex was pregnant and in her second trimester. She was getting rather rubinesque and her already nice size tits and nipples in particular were very swollen. I found that a turn on. She wasn't lactating and was horny as hell. Maybe that had something to do with it.
Perhaps you were bottle-fed, and that's why lactating tits hold no attraction for you.
I know for sure that I was breast-fed, and lactating tits look like a real treasure-trove to me. To latch on a lady's thick nipple with my mouth and milk her tit with my tongue for a good 20-minutes or so is the stuff my wet dreams are made of.
I found from my experience that plain tit-sucking often isn't much of a turn on for most ladies. But when I masturbate the lady's clit with my hand and suck her tit at the same time, then this often brings her quicker to orgasm than just clit masturbation by itself. I think a lot of ladies like to have their tits sucked, when they are getting some kind of clitoral stimulation, either from the fuck or from you directly massaging her clit and pussy lips with your hand.You are correct. I was not breast fed and am not a tit man. I like a well formed set of tits to create balance, but it is really not that important to me. But, I love a great a* and wonderful pair of legs.
Down South Lad
04-07-13, 07:38
Called in to Tulips Sunday March 24, being my second visit to the place, yet forgetting the name of my previous provider, I decided on Gob.
I was not armed with suggestions or recommendations of this informative site, rather my own shy lets get the awkward look at me, look at me, don't take her, pick me phase over with ASAP.
Lucky for me I got a well reviewed lady.
As described by others, she is different looking (in a pleasant way) from the usual issaan girls.
In the room OMG did this girl perform.
BBBJ before the shower was even turned on!
Had I not emptied into a regular BF 3 hrs before I would have succumbed to her her pleasure right there and then.
Shower, and some more BBBJ and some cleaning paying attention to the privates.
On the bed and it was on with A+ like there was no tomorrow, this girl loves cock in her ass. (I and I in turn enjoyed being in her ass.)
After pop 1 some massage, then more BBBJ CIM. Ahh heaven.
This girl gives a mighty fine blowjob.
Some more, massage and then time was up, I enquired time finished really? She checked her watch 5 minutes for shower! I asked for her oral services one more time, with the expected answer "Darling no time, no time" instead CAN, CAN.
Third pop came easy as she was smashing my member into her mouth, throat. I felt like a porn star watching her and my efforts in the mirror.
This lady was great!
W. I. R? HEll yes!
You can make the lady's moaning and dirty talk more sincere and her movements less mechanical by going after her clit with a well-lubricated hand, during your anal sex with her. Here are a couple porn examples of what I'm talking about:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/60d19dccf123b14b6cab7fafb5550f3b/tumblr_mgqlw8ogqZ1rjo8dto1_500.gif
http://i.gifeye.com/13602.gif
It takes two to have a Porn Star Experience. You've got to play your part as her porn stud, and not just behave like an amateur with her. If the lady sounds insincere and her movements are mechanical, then this should be a clue for you that your performance is less than stellar wth her. Instead of blaming her, you should look at some porn pictures of what porn studs do to increase the pleasure for their ladies and make their Porn Star Experience more real for them.
The big advantage of having anal sex with a pretty lady, rather than vaginal, is that anal sex gives you better access to her clit with your hand. As the porn-links above demonstrate, you can put some lube on your hand and masturbate your lady's clit so well that she will orgasm for you, even while you are nailing her ass with your cock.Whoa bro, easy on the advice on how to please a woman. This wasn't my first F*ck. Take note that I paid her to please me and I did not complain just gave my humble opinion of her service. I did have a great PSE but with her it was very mechanical.
Whoa bro, easy on the advice on how to please a woman. This wasn't my first F*ck. Take note that I paid her to please me and I did not complain just gave my humble opinion of her service. I did have a great PSE but with her it was very mechanical.When people say "fake cries and mechanical movements", then they usually mean to say that the sex wasn't the best and it could be better. And my point is that sex is a two-way interaction. It depends as much on you as it does on her. Which means that the lady's fake cries and her mechanical movements might be due to your less than pleasing sex techniques with her.
When the lady is willing to take your drilling, then you get as much out of sex with her as you put into it. Because it's the guys who are built to fuck, and women are built more to spread their legs. You can try to reverse the roles with some success. But it usually doesn't work as well as when the guy and the woman stay within their natural roles.
It's true that it's up to you how to do it. But you need to understand the limitations, when you are reversing the roles and expecting the lady to do something that's not quite natural for her, such as taking the initiative and being sexually assertive with you. It's usually guys who take the initiative, and most women can't be good at this, even when they try.
Went to Tulip about 2 weeks ago. Actually I was on my way to Snow White but decided to jump off skytrain at Thonglor instead of going to Phrom Phong.
It was late afternoon and a couple of girls were available. I asked mamasan about a girl "that can do anything" and she recommended Gae / Kae.
Gae is from Ayyuthaya and in her mid to late 20's. About 160cm tall with a chubby 36 figure. No fat, but a little bit chubby nonetheless. Long black hair and round face witha broad nose. No stunner, but decent looking.
Performance in the room was ok, but nothing special. BBBJ and DFK, some decent fucking. She wasn't very comfortable while I fucked her ass so I stopped. Finally I came, showered and went off.
Definately should have gone to Snow White.
As usual: YMMV
Can anyone send me a working number for tulips booking.
Thanks
Can anyone send me a working number for tulips booking.
ThanksThe website telephone number was working fine early last week. Not sure I can post a tel number here, but will PM you.
A few years ago, Tulip closed for songkran but I can't verify right now. (Not in Thailand, more's the pity!) TTG
BangBangBang
06-08-13, 08:55
Quick stop at tulip before lunch (1pm) and took Opor based on a friends experience.
For the usual fee, one hour with her is worth a visit.
My preference goes for thiner asses but hers is quite lovely and can take lots of action.
Session was good. Started with deep french kiss standing, them she took my and clothes off (no shower yet) and gave me top BBJ.
She insisted I finger her pussy then later her anal. Could not hold too long specially as her deep throat technique is good. Had a long CIM. She held me long time after orgasm which I love versus the half-done or spit-right-after.
She then gave me long oil massage. Pretty good inter-session.
She woke me up with her mouth, then sat doggy, her ass facing me and fingered herself again. I banged her everywhere with 3 condoms, then finished in her mouth. She wanted more.
I recmmens her for folks who look for good size firm asses, tall girls. She has great attitude and wants to please.
She is resistant to no condoms first time but when she gets to know you I bet it's possible, for those who care.
Enjoy her and her friends.
Bbb
Quick stop at tulip before lunch (1pm) and took Opor based on a friends experience.
For the usual fee, one hour with her is worth a visit.
My preference goes for thiner asses but hers is quite lovely and can take lots of action.
Session was good. Started with deep french kiss standing, them she took my and clothes off (no shower yet) and gave me top BBJ.
She insisted I finger her pussy then later her anal. Could not hold too long specially as her deep throat technique is good. Had a long CIM. She held me long time after orgasm which I love versus the half-done or spit-right-after.
She then gave me long oil massage. Pretty good inter-session.
She woke me up with her mouth, then sat doggy, her ass facing me and fingered herself again. I banged her everywhere with 3 condoms, then finished in her mouth. She wanted more.
I recmmens her for folks who look for good size firm asses, tall girls. She has great attitude and wants to please.
She is resistant to no condoms first time but when she gets to know you I bet it's possible, for those who care.
Enjoy her and her friends.
BbbOpor sounds like the lady to see, when you are looking for some real action and not just the promise of one.
It's always good to know how the pretty lady expects you to plow, before you go to see her. Because this way you know how long you should last, when you start doing her hard and fast, and pace yourself accordingly.
Giving my lady a good pussy massage is my favorite occupation, before the penetration. And with lady Opor, insisting that you do this kind of thing with her, makes her the lady for me to see. Thanks for the info about lady Opor.
But I always thought that assmen prefer lases with big asses. Because that's the kind of asses most popular anal queens have in porn movies nowadays. A good example is London Keyes, who is half-Japanese:
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Popped into Tulip expecting the usual shower, BJ, massage, AR, and three hole rogering, but had something softer but fun nevertheless.
Business must be slow, as there was a big line up of eager beaver. 8 or 9 potential porn stars were on the edge of the bench trying to catch my eye, and U entertained a brief fantasy of having them all doggy style one by one. But in the end I chose Pami, because she was the prettiest, and the only I fancied. Thin, young, lovely hair and smile but not much body, I almost regretted not taking Opor, who looks hungry for anything. But what followed was very nice. She stripped off nervously and I kissed her head to toe with long DFK. Then I laid her down for very long DATY. After a while she sat up and played with my cock and balls, and I almost came, so we paused for a shower. After that there was more foreplay including mutual anal, and then I decided on something different. I sat on the edge of the bed and put her across my lap for a spanking. She seemed to know the drill, and arched her cute bottom up willingly, at first, but after the 6th or 7th swat she began to moan. Pleasure or pain? Fake or real? Anyway, condom time now and she straddled me and bounced up and down. Finally I laid her across the bed and fucked her from standing position, with deep thrusts. Afterwards I slept and she massaged my feet.
I left happy! She responded to what I wanted, and there was no script.
On the way out Opor gave me the naughtiest look imaginable, full of promise of pure porn, but I think I'll have Pami again next time.
She is resistant to no condoms first time but when she gets to know you I bet it's possible, for those who care.Or maybe for those who DON'T care.
Just had Dao today! Holy fuck she is a beast! 3 pops in an hour-and-30 minutes plus a fourth round BBBJDT! Detailed report to come!
Just had Dao today! Holy fuck she is a beast! *snip*But I think I know what you mean. All-star, super star. TTG
But I think I know what you mean. All-star, super star. TTGDo they do out call? And at what rate?
Do they do out call? And at what rate?The wesite says no outcall, but I know from personal experience that it is, or was, possible. The rate for away-from-the-shop service is, or was at one time. 1k THB. There's a whole thread here, TC, where you can find out lots about Tulip. TTG
But I think I know what you mean. All-star, super star. TTGHaha! We use it a lot in the mongering forums in the US (Hawaii).
"She fucks like a beast!" "Her ass is beast!" etc.
Just saw Apor yesterday! WOW! Same stellar service as Dao, but thicker bod (nice). Three pops in an hour-and-a-half. Three-holer and she's "freaky" and is down with some kinky stuff!
Making my way through the all-star lineup. Gop will be today's fine wine of choice!
Will explore the sweet tastes of Mango Spa over the weekend once the Tulip PSE girls are crossed off the list! Hopefully I can see Bo and Ice!
I happen to like women 40-45 years of age. Some of them are good-looking, if they take care of themselves. And they are usually better in bed than younger women are, because they have a lot more experience with horny guys.
Perhaps Tulip Massage needs to post some pictures at its website, so that people can judge for themselves whether they like the women there or not. Because not every guy will have the same opinion about a woman.MILFs are their own kinda sexy. I honestly feel bad for the gents who can't get into a sexy MILF. Like you said, when they take care of themselves and dress and act sexy. Instant boner! And yes, typically they offer the PSE over the GFE of younger ones.
Saw Gop yesterday and completed my holy trinity of sex bombs at the Tulip! Really different shades to all of them, but exceptional, mind blowing service from all.
Think I will try Bo at Mango next and maybe Ice too.
MILFs are their own kinda sexy. I honestly feel bad for the gents who can't get into a sexy MILF. Like you said, when they take care of themselves and dress and act sexy. Instant boner! And yes, typically they offer the PSE over the GFE of younger ones.I with there is a "like" button here.
Quick stop at tulip before lunch (1pm) and took Opor based on a friends experience.
For the usual fee, one hour with her is worth a visit.
My preference goes for thiner asses but hers is quite lovely and can take lots of action.
Session was good. Started with deep french kiss standing, them she took my and clothes off (no shower yet) and gave me top BBJ.
She insisted I finger her pussy then later her anal. Could not hold too long specially as her deep throat technique is good. Had a long CIM. She held me long time after orgasm which I love versus the half-done or spit-right-after.
She then gave me long oil massage. Pretty good inter-session.
She woke me up with her mouth, then sat doggy, her ass facing me and fingered herself again. I banged her everywhere with 3 condoms, then finished in her mouth. She wanted more...
Just saw Apor yesterday! WOW! Same stellar service as Dao, but thicker bod (nice). Three pops in an hour-and-a-half. Three-holer and she's "freaky" and is down with some kinky stuff!
Making my way through the all-star lineup. Gop will be today's fine wine of choice!
Will explore the sweet tastes of Mango Spa over the weekend once the Tulip PSE girls are crossed off the list! Hopefully I can see Bo and Ice!Does anyone have a photo of Opor / Apor. She sounds "interesting".
AssLover945
08-03-13, 18:46
Been seeing her for 5 years + on and off, what an ass what an ass.
Rarely see that shape oh what a bubblebutt!
Been seeing her for 5 years + on and off, what an ass what an ass.
Rarely see that shape oh what a bubblebutt!Oh yeah. I second that. The best bubble butt in BKK. I tried her on your recomendation and now I am addicted to Gop.
Does anyone have a photo of Opor / Apor. She sounds "interesting".To me, and this sounds crazy, she reminds me of a Thai version of the actress Anna Paquin (X-men, True Blood).
And Gop is Salma Hayek all the way from her Dusk Til Dawn days!
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Had Kim last night. Only for an hour. But that girl got down to business early. Awesome cocksucking skills and tight pussy! Two pops!
this girl is interesting. just finished 1 hour with her and fuck! my pecker does not know if it wants to cry and just lie down. as soon as the door was closed that was it, she raped me and i mean raped me. i 'said' that she would shower me first then massage, but did she hell. she pushed me onto the bed and started to rip my clothes off! she is very good, too good in fact.
i did go to get opor or gop, but alas, were already busy. so a quick scan around the room and i spotted wheel or weel. short hair, chinese looking (as she is from cm). nice tits and a nice round ass, not to big, but just enough.
this girl is a fuck machine! she loves to play with her pussy while sucking you, and what a suck action she has got, would put a dyson to shame. nice and wet, asked to to calm down a bit but would she listed, no way! she really is that good. moaned a lot, way too much porn action, but hey sounds good if you were that guy in the next room. she loves to look in the mirror whilst sucking and fucking you. back door action is a must with her as your balls slap her shaved pussy.
multiply shots is on the cards and no extra cost, but i managed to stretch out for the whole session, but next time will be 2 hours. she is a fucking nymph, cute and defo a pse!
enjoy. oh tuesday is her day off, just in case you go.
Had only a one hour window and picked a little chubby girl named View, very cute face and quite the actress, but boy did I enjoy the show. Her body is not for everyone based on my readings here, but the best hour of my trip.
So a quick scan around the room and I spotted Wheel or Weel. Short hair, Chinese looking (as she is from CM). Nice tits and a nice round ass, not to big, but just enough.Wee is a common Thai name or could be spelled Wi. Thais cannot pronounce letter L at the end of a word and struggle to make English L sound at the best of times. So Wheel would be strange choice (but still possible even if they can't pronounce it LOL). When a Thai says "file" is comes out as just a long "fie"."girl" becomes "girn","dollar" becomes "don" and "will" comes out something like "wiw".
Wee is a common Thai name or could be spelled Wi. Thais cannot pronounce letter L at the end of a word and struggle to make English L sound at the best of times. So Wheel would be strange choice (but still possible even if they can't pronounce it LOL). When a Thai says "file" is comes out as just a long "fie"."girl" becomes "girn","dollar" becomes "don" and "will" comes out something like "wiw".I asked this girl to spell her name in Thai and the previous post by TConor had the pronunciation pretty close when he used "View" if you replace the V with a W for "Wiew" or transliterated as "wiu". However, I don't remember the tone which is important in Thai. She was a little chubby for my tastes and made a lot of noise but the sex was good and she was fun to talk to.
I asked this girl to spell her name in Thai and the previous post by TConor had the pronunciation pretty close when he used "View" if you replace the V with a W for "Wiew" or transliterated as "wiu". However, I don't remember the tone which is important in Thai. She was a little chubby for my tastes and made a lot of noise but the sex was good and she was fun to talk to.Good point. Thai does not have english V sound. So name could be View and sounds like Wiu or Wiew.
Its beyond me why they spell Sukhumvit when it is clearly pronounced Sukhumwit.
Good point. Thai does not have english V sound. So name could be View and sounds like Wiu or Wiew.
Its beyond me why they spell Sukhumvit when it is clearly pronounced Sukhumwit.Actually put her hand over her eyes, on the forehead, to explain that her name was like a view!
Has been quite a time I visited this thread. Had similar experience with Pim. The first three / four encounters were splendid, during the first one she made me come three times, if you pass the sixties this is not easy! Then she complains about me seen Pond and her service declines, so I stopped visiting her.
Tulips used to be one of my favorite massage places in Bangkok, that is until I say Pim. The first time I saw her she was very good. Actually one of the best BBBJ I have gotten in Thailand. Sex was great, all positions and a cross between a GFE and PSE. It seems Pim's service goes down hill after the first time. The second time I chose 2 hours. She took her sweet ass time preparing and we started the session 45 minutes in. Still great BBBJ but that was it. The rest mechanical and far from PSE or GFE. Really she wasted a lot of time trying to chat it up with me. After the first session we exchanged numbers so I could book her the next time more easily. Well after this second bad session I decided to choose another girl, it was Pim's day off and she was not there. Well to my surprise the next day I received a nasty text from Pim stating her anger about me seeing another girl. It did not stop with that text, , more texts and then phone calls followed after that. It was like a jealous girlfriend. I think Tulip needs to do something about this crazy girl. I had to change my number because of her. I will also not go back to Tulip after this. She is causing them to loose customers. There are plenty of other options like Cherries which I did try. The manager there s super nice and hot as well. But the best thing is no drama.
Has been quite a time I visited this thread. Had similar experience with Pim. The first three / four encounters were splendid, during the first one she made me come three times, if you pass the sixties this is not easy! Then she complains about me seen Pond and her service declines, so I stopped visiting her.Thai girls can be very jealous or coveting (an ex GF comes to mind) , even working girls can be. Some guys are so wary of this problem that they only do one girl per shop. So that girl must be carefully chosen to be the best one.
There is a theory, not without some merit, that guys who stick to the one girl, tend to get the very best GFE service from that girl as she feels she is a bit special.
I mainly have one girl per MP shop or Soapy, but am willing to change if I think there is another much better looking or exciting, or the normal girl is away too long. Its mainly just because I am picking who seems the best girl for me at each shop, and then if she is fantastic, no urgent need to change.
I think that if you do the same girl several times and then switch to another girl several times, it seems to send the message that the 2nd girl is preferred. So best not to do that unless you don't intend to return to the first girl.
My big exception is Suzie Wong, where I take multiple girls so its never ever expected that there is only one favourite girl there. I actually have three or 4 big favourites at Suzie Wong, however there are rarely more than 2 of them ever present concurrently, and I can always take both those two together. Haven't seen Nit or Bow for a while which leaves only 2 big favourites and often only 1 of those is present. When I take girls at SW, the favourites are always included, if available. So the favourites would never get the impression that some other girl is preferred. Others would know they are on the 2nd choice list but I am still nice to them. Anne (very popular D implants) recently came up to hit me as did not bar fine her for maybe a year or so, and not after the tit job.
Skogis has a lot more problems I read, including being spat on, because he keeps changing girls, despite them thinking they were just brilliant for him. I don't get bored with the best girls so quickly. My Utopia soapy girl from Chiang Rai was first visited by me maybe 6 or so years ago. She has changed from slim to slightly more voluptuous now, but still very pretty face and great GFE. Not the best character of a girl but great for sex, and sometimes can be horny too. She was teasing me about getting a nose job. I said that if she does that, I won't want her any more. Her nose is just perfection already.
had the pleasure of doing her a few months ago. booked 1.5 hrs at 600b i think. popped 3 times. a frickin record for me. takes it up the ass like brazilian. loves to be fucked hard too. not bad for a fee of 1500b.
thanks view.
this girl is interesting. just finished 1 hour with her and fuck! my pecker does not know if it wants to cry and just lie down. as soon as the door was closed that was it, she raped me and i mean raped me. i 'said' that she would shower me first then massage, but did she hell. she pushed me onto the bed and started to rip my clothes off! she is very good, too good in fact.
i did go to get opor or gop, but alas, were already busy. so a quick scan around the room and i spotted wheel or weel. short hair, chinese looking (as she is from cm). nice tits and a nice round ass, not to big, but just enough.
this girl is a fuck machine! she loves to play with her pussy while sucking you, and what a suck action she has got, would put a dyson to shame. nice and wet, asked to to calm down a bit but would she listed, no way! she really is that good. moaned a lot, way too much porn action, but hey sounds good if you were that guy in the next room. she loves to look in the mirror whilst sucking and fucking you. back door action is a must with her as your balls slap her shaved pussy.
multiply shots is on the cards and no extra cost, but i managed to stretch out for the whole session, but next time will be 2 hours. she is a fucking nymph, cute and defo a pse!
enjoy. oh tuesday is her day off, just in case you go.
Had the pleasure of doing her a few months ago. Booked 1.5 hrs at 600B I think. Popped 3 times. A frickin record for me. Takes it up the ass like brazilian. Loves to be fucked hard too. Not bad for a fee of 1500B. Thanks View.I can only agree about View: I met her yesterday, and I left totally satisfied (. And pretty "dead".) after 90 minutes.
She is pretty small and with big legs, but overall very pleasant for me. And, most important, a real pornstar in the room!
I am not sure if she liked or she acted. I guess it was mostly acting. But what a good actress she is!
Today. Tuesday. Is her free day. And tomorrow, no need for you guys to look for View between 1 and 3 pm. She is already booked.
I hope this week to get Opor too. Although she is Tulip busiest girl in these days. I just had a lunch with her menthor and teacher Pond: she told me that Opor had 60 customers in the last two weeks!
I just got done with Opor I feel like I got worked over. She aims to please. Dfk, BBBJ, on top, on bottom, doggie, rimming etc. Oh ya 3 pops. I will repeat. 2100 bhat 300 tip.
I just got done with Opor I feel like I got worked over. She aims to please. Dfk, BBBJ, on top, on bottom, doggie, rimming etc. Oh ya 3 pops. I will repeat. 2100 bhat 300 tip.Pond claims Opor to have been her student. If she has been really trained by Pond, she should be good!
Been to Bangkok over 3 times in the last 12 months or so but never had a chance to try Tulip. When I get there this Saturday, that't the first place I am heading. I have been profiling the girls I want to to try after going through numerous posts in this board. Namely Opor, View and Gop as I am looking for the freakiest of them all. Here is my concern. Do the girls have their names attached to them at the line up? How would I know to pick the ones I want? Will they impose a girl on me according to who is available? Also do you think its better to go for out-call or go to the location itself. One of the benefits I see in going to the location is the wet soapy massages. Yearning for some sage advice. Cheers
Traveler1234
09-02-13, 14:15
Been to Bangkok over 3 times in the last 12 months or so but never had a chance to try Tulip. When I get there this Saturday, that't the first place I am heading. I have been profiling the girls I want to to try after going through numerous posts in this board. Namely Opor, View and Gop as I am looking for the freakiest of them all. Here is my concern. Do the girls have their names attached to them at the line up? How would I know to pick the ones I want? Will they impose a girl on me according to who is available? Also do you think its better to go for out-call or go to the location itself. One of the benefits I see in going to the location is the wet soapy massages. Yearning for some sage advice. CheersMost of us don't go for the wet soapy massage. Not even sure if available.
Personally, I think you'll enjoy the outcall more, POV.
Book all three and then tell us how they rank!
Most of us don't go for the wet soapy massage. Not even sure if available.
Personally, I think you'll enjoy the outcall more, POV.
Book all three and then tell us how they rank!Indeed I do plan to try all three, possibly a threesome with two of them. Maybe. Ohh the options.
Most of us don't go for the wet soapy massage. Not even sure if available.
Personally, I think you'll enjoy the outcall more, POV.
Book all three and then tell us how they rank!Is it possible to take a Tulip girl on outcall?
It says "No outcall service" on their website.
Nongpagba, thanks for the intel I will try.
Is it possible to take a Tulip girl on outcall?
It says "No outcall service" on their website.They may have cut back on outcall due to problems with customers, however I am sure can be done for trusted customers. I have taken a tulip girl away for a 3 or 4 day period in the past. Its merely a case of compensating both Tulip and the girl adequately for her time. This can be tricky when some girls are coy to state the fair price. Very long outcall can be a great rest from continual grind of working hard, if the compensation is right.
If I am holidaying in a destination not renowned for great mongering, its better to take a hot girl with you instead.
My advice is to take in-house service first more than once with favourite girl, then ask her about outcall possibilities. Out call isn't a great idea if you don't know the girl well, IMHO. I don't like to take girls for more than ST till I am very sure we are good together. I normally only do Outcall for LT, as I can put up with in house facilities for ST.
They may have cut back on outcall due to problems with customers, however I am sure can be done for trusted customers. I have taken a tulip girl away for a 3 or 4 day period in the past. Its merely a case of compensating both Tulip and the girl adequately for her time. This can be tricky when some girls are coy to state the fair price. Very long outcall can be a great rest from continual grind of working hard, if the compensation is right.
If I am holidaying in a destination not renowned for great mongering, its better to take a hot girl with you instead.
My advice is to take in-house service first more than once with favourite girl, then ask her about outcall possibilities. Out call isn't a great idea if you don't know the girl well, IMHO. I don't like to take girls for more than ST till I am very sure we are good together. I normally only do Outcall for LT, as I can put up with in house facilities for ST.Thanks for clearing that up.
I'm not really into the in house experience, and always opt for outcall which pretty much rules out Tulip then. To bad, as I would have liked to try the girl (Opor?) who can drain even the most seasoned male pornstar.
This is a long due report of my 4/5 years with Tulip girls.
I have never been disappointed only disappointed with my self for not having stamina to keep up with them. These girls are really hard working and trying to please their customers to their best. However my best ever experience was still with a girls who hardly spoke English at Ban massage when it was fully functional few years ago. She basically sucked my cock with her pussy with spasms after spasm where I felt my whole body would end up in her pussy. All 3 times I came it was like that. Well that is long gone now and next best thing is Tulip for me.
I have been around 6/7 girls from Tulip including the famous / infamous Pim. Pim was my first Tulip girl and she was all great the first time. Very friendly and cheeky. She would do everything including anal and CIM. She was all great and was my inspiration to go to Tulip on my every visit to BKK. My second wncounter with Pim was bit adventurous after a year or two where she has developed enormous stamina and sex drive. Once I wanted a 69 and I remember she stated pressing her pussy against my face where I was trying to keep alive without being suffocated. It was pretty hard for my comfort and later she pulled a vibrator and put it in her pussy and wanted me to help with it. It was all fine and I left the place very tired after cumming 3 times. She started remembering me at the end of the session. I haven't done Pim after this which may be in 2009.
There after I have number of other tulip girls who were all great. They work hard and never had the stamina issue as with Pim. My last experience was last week with Viv just before I flew. She was very accommodation and tried everything to please me before I leave BKK. Had a good long session with her and she is a great sucker. If you want sucking, she can surely so it. She is not skinny and bit on plum side.
My previous adventure at Tulip was bit disturbing. This was in January this year. I don't know her name but she is not skinny and medium build with bit fat layers around the belly, pretty face though. She did an amazing oil massage and for 2 hour session she started slowly. Gradually she started stimulating my junior and started playing with it which she sat on my tummy. Both our bodies are soaked with oil and the wet sensation was so sticky and horny. I suddenly felt that she put my fully stretched cock slowly in her pussy and then out. No condom. The decision I had to make was. Condom or no condom. That is the question. As I was sooo horny at that point, I did not bother asking for a condom and she continued it and then we were fucking with no condom. It felt sooo good with the stickiness on the oil until I came. Then she put it back and fucked me again in cowboy until she came. Then went to clean herself. I was now realizing what I have done. Lying on the bed I just realised that I have fucked a working girl in BKK without a condom. I could not hardly breathe. She started massaging me again and I was terrified of the possible repercussions including painful slow death and humiliation. And then we fucked again with a condom this time. I specifically asked for it.
I came back home and first think I did was a blood test. Until I got the results all sorted with negative for all STD including HIv, I was a dead man.
My advice: please don't do it. It's not worth. I will never ever do it. It takes out the fun part of the whole mongering experience.
However, these Tulip girls are great. It is up to you to safely play them and have fun without unnecessary risk to you and your family.
My previous adventure at Tulip was bit disturbing. This was in January this year. I don't know her name but she is not skinny and medium build with bit fat layers around the belly, pretty face though. She did an amazing oil massage and for 2 hour session she started slowly. Gradually she started stimulating my junior and started playing with it which she sat on my tummy. Both our bodies are soaked with oil and the wet sensation was so sticky and horny. I suddenly felt that she put my fully stretched cock slowly in her pussy and then out. No condom. The decision I had to make was. Condom or no condom. That is the question. As I was sooo horny at that point, I did not bother asking for a condom and she continued it and then we were fucking with no condom. It felt sooo good with the stickiness on the oil until I came. Then she put it back and fucked me again in cowboy until she came. Then went to clean herself. I was now realizing what I have done. Lying on the bed I just realised that I have fucked a working girl in BKK without a condom. I could not hardly breathe. She started massaging me again and I was terrified of the possible repercussions including painful slow death and humiliation. And then we fucked again with a condom this time. I specifically asked for it.
I came back home and first think I did was a blood test. Until I got the results all sorted with negative for all STD including HIv, I was a dead man.
My advice: please don't do it. It's not worth. I will never ever do it. It takes out the fun part of the whole mongering experience.
However, these Tulip girls are great. It is up to you to safely play them and have fun without unnecessary risk to you and your family.I am sure this has happened to a number of mongers and I have also had frightening issues like this, and instance where the condom broke while we were doing it. She noticed immediately and got off me but still a frightening experience non the less. If the girl is as concerned as you thats usually a good indicator on how she views her health. Nowadays I always make it a point not to drink or do things of the sort that could blur my thinking, but then again horniness itself is hard to fight. Fact is, these things happen and its a always a risk in this hobby. Will be heading to Tulip this weekend. Hope to have as much fun as you did. Protected of course.
Paul Kausch
09-04-13, 18:40
I suddenly felt that she put my fully stretched cock slowly in her pussy and then out. No condom. The decision I had to make was. Condom or no condom. That is the question. As I was sooo horny at that point, I did not bother asking for a condom and she continued it and then we were fucking with no condom.
I am sure this has happened to a number of mongersYep, if your looking for bareback, its not that hard to find. Tulips has been known for some time as a likely place to find it. If you're not into it, come prepared. I have often brought my own condom and put it on the bed in view of the lady to leave no doubt in her mind.
Francesco24
09-04-13, 18:49
I'd like to point out that Tulip has no website.
If you mean http://www.tulipmassage.com Then please read at the bottom of the page:
"Please note:
This website TulipMassage. Com has no relation with the massage shop: Tulip Massage Bangkok.
However as a courtesy to the shop who inspired this website, we mention their contact details on this page."
Guys I am not into the typical massage scene so I got some queries this time, Guys I m in Bangkok and ready to try Tulip this time. Never tried before. The posts I read previously clearly indicates me that its 1500 tip for full service inclusive of anal if the girl is into it. Many guys here have posted they got 2 to 3 pops easily during a session of 1.5hr or 2hr. My question is. Did they get all the deal for 1500? I mean I know the massage charges of 90mins or 120min are an for the bar and fixed charges. But other than that. Tipping a girl 1500 got all the package with it 3pops with anal. Damn. Thats value for money, I would like someone to shed light on this.
Damn! 3 pops. You guys are fit.
Well I would like to try myself out as well and see if I can blow up three times as well. LOL
Guys I m in Bangkok and ready to try Tulip this time.We look forward to your reports! See answer elsewhere. Yes, you have the arithmetic and the concept correct. TTG
Guys I am not into the typical massage scene so I got some queries this time, Guys I m in Bangkok and ready to try Tulip this time. Never tried before. The posts I read previously clearly indicates me that its 1500 tip for full service inclusive of anal if the girl is into it. Many guys here have posted they got 2 to 3 pops easily during a session of 1. 5hr or 2hr. My question is. Did they get all the deal for 1500? I mean I know the massage charges of 90mins or 120min are an for the bar and fixed charges. But other than that. Tipping a girl 1500 got all the package with it 3pops with anal. Damn. Thats value for money, I would like someone to shed light on this.
Damn! 3 pops. You guys are fit.
Well I would like to try myself out as well and see if I can blow up three times as well. LOLStandard fee for full service is 1500 Baht. I tip 200 Baht on top of that. Usually in a 2 hour session I can manage about 3 pops.
Total cost of a 2 hr romp at Tulip:
Shop fee for "oil massage"= 800 Baht.
Full service (paid to the service provider= your fuck buddy)= 1500 Baht.
Tip ("Sorry I made you ass sore")= 200 Baht.
Yep, if your looking for bareback, its not that hard to find. Tulips has been known for some time as a likely place to find it. If you're not into it, come prepared. I have often brought my own condom and put it on the bed in view of the lady to leave no doubt in her mind.Without commenting on my opinion regarding bareback sex. Wanted to provide this link for calculating STD / HIV risk. The calculator includes determining the risk with a sex worker.
Using my age and assuming the girl is 25 and that she has herpes, seems that the odds of getting HIV, is about 1 in 9, 000 with about a 92% likelihood of being free or all STDs so an 8% chance of getting another type of STD other than HIV.
http://www.stdriskcalculator.com/index.php/calculator
Suerte.
Stowe
Wolvenvacht
09-07-13, 07:10
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Damn! 3 pops. You guys are fit.
Well I would like to try myself out as well and see if I can blow up three times as well. LOLHealthy food and a daily dose of Vitamin V. ;)
Paul Kausch
09-07-13, 08:45
Without commenting on my opinion regarding bareback sex. Wanted to provide this link for calculating STD / HIV risk. The calculator includes determining the risk with a sex worker.
Using my age and assuming the girl is 25 and that she has herpes, seems that the odds of getting HIV, is about 1 in 9, 000 with about a 92% likelihood of being free or all STDs so an 8% chance of getting another type of STD other than HIV.
http://www.stdriskcalculator.com/index.php/calculator
Suerte.
StoweIf I understand your example you are saying you have an 8% risk of being infected with an STD other than HIV.
I looked at the calculator and it is estimating probabilities based on one sexual encounter. However, as the number of encounters increases the probability of infection increases.
Let's take two examples: in one you have unprotected sex ten times and the probability of infection is 0.08 (8%). In the second example you have unprotected sex 100 times with the same probability of 0.08 (8%). With ten encounters the formula for calculating the probability is 1- (1-0. 08) to the 10th power and the probability is 0. 5656 (56. 56%) that you will get infected. With 100 encounters the formula for calculating the probability is 1- (1-0. 08) to the 100th power and the probability is 0. 9998 (99. 98%) that you will get infected.
Now let's say you spend a couple of weeks mongering in Bangkok and you have unprotected vaginal intercourse 20 times and lets for the sake of argument say you know nothing about the girls but we'll assume the probability of contracting an STD is 1:1000. The probability you will get infected is 1- (1-0. 001) to the 20th power which equals 0. 0198 or almost 2%. Let's say you spend a couple of months monger and have unprotected sex 200 times. Now your probability is 1- (1-0. 001) 200th power which equals 0. 1814 or better than 18%.
Play the game often enough and the likelihood of your number coming up gets way high.
Hope you could follow the formulas. The handling of periods is very stupid and the carat symbol is not part of the character set. Guess whoever designed this contraption did not take math beyond addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. But what the hell, this is just a f*cking sex forum.
ConquerorVal
09-07-13, 15:10
Let's say you spend a couple of months monger and have unprotected sex 200 times. .Thats three+ pops per day for two months. Now those are impressive numbers.
Paul Kausch
09-07-13, 18:03
Thats three+ pops per day for two months. Now those are impressive numbers.It is certainly beyond my capabilities. I might manage three in one day once in a blue moon. Of course, two months versus four months is irrelevant. I just wanted to show the cumulative risk of frequent unprotected sex.
If I understand your example you are saying you have an 8% risk of being infected with an STD other than HIV.
Play the game often enough and the likelihood of your number coming up gets way high.If the chances re 1:1, 000 (or whatever chance you take) you can't tell if you are going to get an STD on the first or second f*ck. Or the thousandth.
If the chances re 1:1, 000 (or whatever chance you take) you can't tell if you are going to get an STD on the first or second f*ck. Or the thousandth.Damn risky life with all those probabilities. But at least after 1000 BB f*cks the likelihood of an STD would rise to more than 60% so that's almost certain. Provided, of course, and to bring the discussion back to the forum topic, that the population is big enough. One massage shop such as TULIP is just a sample of the whole population, so you better first calculate what the chances are that one WL among the 20 or so working there has an STD. Way too complicated for me, so I'll stick with safer sex instead.
Damn risky life with all those probabilities. But at least after 1000 BB f*cks the likelihood of an STD would rise to more than 60% so that's almost certain. Provided, of course, and to bring the discussion back to the forum topic, that the population is big enough. One massage shop such as TULIP is just a sample of the whole population, so you better first calculate what the chances are that one WL among the 20 or so working there has an STD. Way too complicated for me, so I'll stick with safer sex instead.There area lot of nasties out there apart from STDs. Like lice and genital warts.
But given the publicity, revons a nos moutons, I shall be following this thread for information for my up-coming trip in eight week's time.
If I understand your example you are saying you have an 8% risk of being infected with an STD other than HIV.We are in the wrong thread for STD discussions. My buddy caught one in his first week in Bangkok from a bargirl. Any girl doing BB regularly with many guys is high risk.
Paul Kausch
09-08-13, 00:21
If the chances re 1:1, 000 (or whatever chance you take) you can't tell if you are going to get an STD on the first or second f*ck. Or the thousandth.Yep. It's Russian Roulette.
Paul Kausch
09-08-13, 00:25
Damn risky life with all those probabilities. But at least after 1000 BB f*cks the likelihood of an STD would rise to more than 60% so that's almost certain. Provided, of course, and to bring the discussion back to the forum topic, that the population is big enough. One massage shop such as TULIP is just a sample of the whole population, so you better first calculate what the chances are that one WL among the 20 or so working there has an STD. Way too complicated for me, so I'll stick with safer sex instead.Good. I believe that is the conclusion any rational person would draw. The problem is rational thought is the province of the big head and we often think with our little head.
Paul Kausch
09-08-13, 00:26
We are in the wrong thread for STD discussions. My buddy caught one in his first week in Bangkok from a bargirl. Any girl doing BB regularly with many guys is high risk.You are right. This will be my last post on this topic on this thread.
Went to Tulip today at about 8pm. Plenty of girls available, but most of them seemed to be rather mature. I choosed the one that smiled the most at me and look quite young.
Pami was her name. 31 years old (looked like being in her mid 20s) , from Ubon Rathathani. About 160cm tall, a tiny 34 bodysize, a small A cup, long nipples, broad nose, cute face and long dark brown hair. Limited english skills, but she's rather talkative in thai. Some kind of typical Isaan girl.
From her performance there was nothing to complain about. Showering together to start the session, but no BJ,"just" DFK. Then we went over to the bed. And we did what I did so many tiny times in the past at Tulip. Body kisses, DFKs, BBBJ, pussy licking, fingering, fucking her in several positions, fucking her ass, before finally finishing with CIM. Some kind of Tulip routine programme.
I left as a happy customer after 70 minutes with 1. 900 THB (400 THB for the shop. 1.500 THB for Pami) missing in my wallet.
Pami isn't a "superstar" like Ice from Mango, Apple from Cherry or June from Snow White when it comes to PSE. Pami is a decent performer, definately not a must do, but a can do without any regrets. Unfortunately there are tons of great choices in Bangkok for PSE so it will take a while before I come back fucking Pami.
P. S. Fucked her with a condom.
Fast Eddie 48
09-22-13, 05:10
Went to Tulip today at about 8pm. Plenty of girls available, but most of them seemed to be rather mature. I choosed the one that smiled the most at me and look quite young.
Pami was her name. 31 years old (looked like being in her mid 20s) , from Ubon Rathathani. About 160cm tall, a tiny 34 bodysize, a small A cup, long nipples, broad nose, cute face and long dark brown hair. Limited english skills, but she's rather talkative in thai. Some kind of typical Isaan girl.
From her performance there was nothing to complain about. Showering together to start the session, but no BJ,"just" DFK. Then we went over to the bed. And we did what I did so many tiny times in the past at Tulip. Body kisses, DFKs, BBBJ, pussy licking, fingering, fucking her in several positions, fucking her ass, before finally finishing with CIM. Some kind of Tulip routine programme.
I left as a happy customer after 70 minutes with 1. 900 THB (400 THB for the shop. 1.500 THB for Pami) missing in my wallet.
Pami isn't a "superstar" like Ice from Mango, Apple from Cherry or June from Snow White when it comes to PSE. Pami is a decent performer, definately not a must do, but a can do without any regrets. Unfortunately there are tons of great choices in Bangkok for PSE so it will take a while before I come back fucking Pami.
P. S. Fucked her with a condom.To Zaberfree.
I try her 3 weeks ago she told me she only work there for 6 month she did give me BBBJ in the shower very GFE and the best looking girl I ever have in Tulip with small tight body, she is not a super star but offer eveything I want 2 shots in 90 min and back door a sweet girl.
Fast Eddie 48
Fast Eddie 48
09-22-13, 05:13
Without commenting on my opinion regarding bareback sex. Wanted to provide this link for calculating STD / HIV risk. The calculator includes determining the risk with a sex worker.
Using my age and assuming the girl is 25 and that she has herpes, seems that the odds of getting HIV, is about 1 in 9, 000 with about a 92% likelihood of being free or all STDs so an 8% chance of getting another type of STD other than HIV.
http://www.stdriskcalculator.com/index.php/calculator
Suerte.
StoweTo stowe.
Why will any one Bare back a girl in Tulip this girl fuck more than 6 men a day that is asking for it, I will not bareback anyione in Thailand let alone in a massage place.
Fast Eddie 48
To Zaberfree.
I try her 3 weeks ago she told me she only work there for 6 month she did give me BBBJ in the shower very GFE and the best looking girl I ever have in Tulip with small tight body, she is not a super star but offer eveything I want 2 shots in 90 min and back door a sweet girl.
Fast Eddie 48Best looking? Hmm. Did you have the pleasure of trying Yok back in the day?
Fast Eddie 48
09-23-13, 04:24
Best looking? Hmm. Did you have the pleasure of trying Yok back in the day?To Pita
Never try YOK only start going to Tulip for 3 yr I know we don't go there for the look but for the service but Pammi is very cute will try her again next time.
Fast Eddie 48
Hey Idiot.
If you would re-read my post I WAS NOT ADVOCATING BB sex- in fact, I specifically said I would NOT state my opinion. I was just posting the info regarding the chances of catching an STD.
Perhaps you are deficient in the English language and did not understand the context of my post.
Stowe.
To stowe.
Why will any one Bare back a girl in Tulip this girl fuck more than 6 men a day that is asking for it, I will not bareback anyione in Thailand let alone in a massage place.
Fast Eddie 48
Many guys here have posted they got 2 to 3 pops easily during a session of 1.5hr or 2hr. My question is. Did they get all the deal for 1500? I mean I know the massage charges of 90mins or 120min are an for the bar and fixed charges. But other than that. Tipping a girl 1500 got all the package with it 3pops with anal. Damn. Thats value for money,When you've got a porn star whos up for anything it becomes easier. Yes. 3 pops in a 1. 5 hr session. And a long time in her ass (View). I see no reason for a tip since they keep the 1500. And a LT from Climax is about 2,000 (1,500 if you're lucky). But thats just me.
Hey Chaps,
I am planning my first trip to Bangkok in a very long time. Of course Tulips is on the agenda.
Recent reports don't mention any slim girls which there used to be at Tulips.
Can anyone please advise if there are still slim choices theta or are they all big ladies these days?
Thanks!
Carpediemyes
09-29-13, 13:51
Recent reports don't mention any slim girls which there used to be at Tulips.
Can anyone please advise if there are still slim choices theta or are they all big ladies these days?
Thanks!The front desk has a book with ALL the girls [ 25-30 ].
The first 2 pages show them all and then the next 20 pages or so show bigger pictures with a page for each lady.
Plenty of slim ones and the majority provide near mind blowing service.
Hard to be disappointed at Tulips unless you want a lady with model level looks.
Fast Eddie 48
09-29-13, 23:55
Hey Chaps,
I am planning my first trip to Bangkok in a very long time. Of course Tulips is on the agenda.
Recent reports don't mention any slim girls which there used to be at Tulips.
Can anyone please advise if there are still slim choices theta or are they all big ladies these days?
Thanks!To Sonic.
Give Pammy a try she is a slim small girl with a tight body and good service, yes I agree most girl at Tulip is a little chubby older girl not easy to find a slim one here.
Fast Eddie 48
To Sonic.
Give Pammy a try she is a slim small girl with a tight body and good service, yes I agree most girl at Tulip is a little chubby older girl not easy to find a slim one here.
Fast Eddie 48For the last 5 years I am a Tulip regular as soon as I arrive in the LOS. I have tried many different girls (ladies by now) and the shortlisted ones are Goff, Opor, Pim, Jo Jo, View and Dao. All of them do anal and provide a perfect porn experience. They are in heavy demand by the Japs / Koreans for weekend pleasures. So do make an early booking. Dao was a heavy hitter like Cat but age has caught up with her lately. Opor is the youngest and has a voracious appetite for sex with lactating tits. All are slim with pert nipples and well rounded ass. Slim or chubby is in every eye different. A good figure that excites is the key. Try them out and you will not be disappointed. I am in Seoul now. Pretty limp here. Look forward to the Tulip visit next month.
Enjoy,
Z
Fast Eddie 48
10-03-13, 20:09
For the last 5 years I am a Tulip regular as soon as I arrive in the LOS. I have tried many different girls (ladies by now) and the shortlisted ones are Goff, Opor, Pim, Jo Jo, View and Dao. All of them do anal and provide a perfect porn experience. They are in heavy demand by the Japs / Koreans for weekend pleasures. So do make an early booking. Dao was a heavy hitter like Cat but age has caught up with her lately. Opor is the youngest and has a voracious appetite for sex with lactating tits. All are slim with pert nipples and well rounded ass. Slim or chubby is in every eye different. A good figure that excites is the key. Try them out and you will not be disappointed. I am in Seoul now. Pretty limp here. Look forward to the Tulip visit next month.
Enjoy,
ZTo Zenlove.
I never see any Japanese or Korean there before Anal is not my thing but I do enjoy a nice AR, I try PIM last yr she is good will give opor a try next time.
Fast Eddie 48
Kiev Freak
10-08-13, 17:13
Hi friends,
Sorry I am a newbie, can yous ay me website of Tulip? I couldn't find it on google. How can I go Tulip? If I get in taxi and say I want to go Tulip, it is ok? First time I will visit Bangkok so I need some help please.
Hi friends, sorry I am a newbie, can yous ay me website of tulip? I couldn't find it on google. How can I go tulip? If I get in taxi and say I want to go tulip, it is ok? First time I will visit Bangkok so I need some help please.Hi K Freak,
Tulip has no website. For their address and phone number go to the Bangkok Tonight site and look under Massage. They are just below the Thonglor BTS station, right next to the north exit stairs. You cannot miss it. If by taxi, tell the driver to drop you off at Thonglor BTS station and then ask anyone. Enjoy the session.
Z
Kiev Freak
10-08-13, 21:45
Many thanks my friend. I am very excited to explore new scene after eastern Europe.
To Sonic.
Give Pammy a try she is a slim small girl with a tight body and good service, yes I agree most girl at Tulip is a little chubby older girl not easy to find a slim one here.
Fast Eddie 48Thanks for your feedback Fast Eddie 48, I didn't get to see Pammy but manage a visit to Tulips:
Popped in about 3pm. They have a rude and creepy ladyboy at the reception desk who barked back, 'Look! ' with a nod towards the girls' area to the right of the reception desk on my arrival. Ladyboy or not, this is not a good way to welcome customers.
The lineup was about 6 ladies, mostly older so I selected the youngest one looking one named Ann who looked in her mid 20's, about 165cms in high heels and slightly thick set with a Thai tattoo on her upper back.
Room reeked of cigarette smoke so I asked to move to another room. The nice maid tried to help by spraying a lot of air freshener in the new room.
Ann's body showed the signs of having a child. Looking curvy when clothed, her tits flop down and sag badly, her belly is wrinkly and her body spilled out of her clothes in a bad way when unclothed. I think she was embarrassed about this because she kept holding an arm across her belly and dimmed the lights to near darkness.
Unfortunately, Ann's attitude didn't make up for her looks and I had to initiate her to help me in the shower and got a brief BJ. On the bed, she continued with the BJ but kept complaining that my dick was too big for her mouth, that there was too much 'water' (pre cum) coming out of it and was spitting every few seconds and wiping my dick with tissues. I just put on the condom and tried to get it over with as quickly as possible so I could just get out of there.
Paid 2100 baht to the ladyboy downstairs then went back to hotel to wash the bad experience off in the shower.
I'm not sure if Saeng is still the owner and if so, whether her being away has resulted in this decline of quality and service. Visitors used to be guaranteed good service if not looks, but this is no longer the case (for me anyway). At the very least, they should put the maid on reception duties instead of the nasty ladyboy.
[QUOTE=Sonic; 1484841]Thanks for your feedback.
Hi Sonic,
Just as Fast Eddie's choice is Pammy, my experience with Goff, Opor, Pim, Jo Jo, View and Dao have been exciting every time and I thought money was well spent. You need to read the posts and take the name of the ladies with you when you visit Tulip. I am sure at least one of the above girls will be available to give you a better experience. It is true the hospitality and welcome has been lacking but the right girl for the two hours is the main feature.
I head back to the LOS next week and a visit to Tulip is on my early agenda.
Z.
Carpediemyes
10-18-13, 02:26
The lineup was about 6 ladies, mostly older so I selected the youngest one looking one named Ann who looked in her mid 20's, about 165cms in high heels and slightly thick set with a Thai tattoo on her upper back.
I'm not sure if Saeng is still the owner and if so, whether her being away has resulted in this decline of quality and serviceSorry to hear of this bad Tulip experience with Ms Ann.
I do not think it is the norm there as most to nearly all ladies are service oriented.
But I have had similar complaints myself with Snow White.
As suggested, it may be safer to pre-book a lady with known good reputation whenever possible.
This is my SOP at OMs.
Saeng is still involved with Tulip.
I saw her at the desk when I was there last week.
PetiteLover
10-18-13, 07:52
Hey guys,
Its been almost two two years since my last visit to Thailand and I can't wait to get there on the 28th of this month.
It would be great if someone could confirm that opor is still lactating
Have already booked ice for an outcall session.
Thanks!
For the last 5 years I am a Tulip regular as soon as I arrive in the LOS. I have tried many different girls (ladies by now) and the shortlisted ones are Goff, Opor, Pim, Jo Jo, View and Dao. All of them do anal and provide a perfect porn experience. They are in heavy demand by the Japs / Koreans for weekend pleasures. So do make an early booking. Dao was a heavy hitter like Cat but age has caught up with her lately. Opor is the youngest and has a voracious appetite for sex with lactating tits. All are slim with pert nipples and well rounded ass. Slim or chubby is in every eye different. A good figure that excites is the key. Try them out and you will not be disappointed. I am in Seoul now. Pretty limp here. Look forward to the Tulip visit next month.
Enjoy,
Z
As suggested, it may be safer to pre-book a lady with known good reputation whenever possible.I think it's best to choose a lady whose looks you like and who shows some sincere desire to go with you, which isn't possible to see, when you pre-book the lady.
Even a lady with a good reputation mght be having a bad day and not feel like being with you or other guys on that day.
A bad experience is usually the result of choosing the lady without judging her mood and her desire or lack of it to be with you.
[QUOTE=Dan7373; 1485304]I think it's best to choose a lady whose looks you like and who shows some sincere desire to go with you, which isn't possible to see, when you pre-book the lady.
Very true Dan 7373. A pre-booked lady may not turn out to be the best experience for that specific day. I always do a walk-in as I have my handpicked ladies as mentioned in my previous posts. If my first pick is not available I am sure the others from the list will be present. If it so happens that none of my picks are there, never happened till date, I will see the line up and make a new pick. I have been a customer of Tulip for the past 9 years and the ones in my list were all Saeng's recommendation to begin with. Do NOT get attached with a single lady. Explore and enjoy the variety.
Z.
Hey guys,
Its been almost two two years since my last visit to Thailand and I can't wait to get there on the 28th of this month.
It would be great if someone could confirm that opor is still lactating
Have already booked ice for an outcall session.
Thanks!She sure is. Had a session with Opor and Dao last week. Great combination. Sucking on Opors tits while Dao is taking your see*k past her tonsils and gagging is pure porn.
They are a great combination and totally uninhibited. At one point Dao had 3 fingers in Opor's pussy and sucking her clit while I was deep in Dao's ass and poking a vibrator into her pussy.
INMHO if you want total hardcore Tulip still beats them all.
PetiteLover
10-20-13, 08:03
Appreciate the update mate!
Will surely post a detailed review as I'm planning to visit tulips on the 29/30.
Thanks again!
She sure is. Had a session with Opor and Dao last week. Great combination. Sucking on Opors tits while Dao is taking your see*k past her tonsils and gagging is pure porn.
INMHO if you want total hardcore Tulip still beats them all.
Visited tulip for the very first time and after a quick look around chose pamy (cutest smile and youngest looking at that time) , mamasan wanted me to take jo jo but I politely refused
So me and pamy going up. Nice shower nothing more. BBBJ on the bed some nice dfk. Some rimming (the more lick around type) pamy worked on her BJ very hard (nice soft lips) and
I unloaded my first pop in her mouth while 69 her pussy. After that she started a slow foot massage but I kept feeling that something is missing. Maybe she was scared of me or just being shy.
So after a minute or two I asked if we can add another lady. She approved and asked "who?" I gave her my shortlist (based on reports) from memory by that order. View, opor and gop. And sent her to check if they can come. After a moment she comes back with view and boy now the party started! Pamy was now more wiling to please and felt more loose and from that moment was way more GFE. View was very good, she is quite the actress but in a good funny way.
Great skills and pure pse. Sucked on my fingers (legs and hands) , licked my ears my nippels and even my knees. Sucked my dick like a pro with a lot of spit and gagging
She and pamy was now in a competition of my little guy. Pop 2 went in view's mouth cause I could not hold it anymore and again while 69 her pussy. After a short rest view took the lead and wanted some fucking to start so I started fucking pamy first pussy than ass. She took it quite well. Changed condoms and moved over to view. Fucked her pussy hard while dfk pamy until she came. Pamy left once her 2hr was up. And view stayed for another hour. More BBBJ and a final long anal session for my last pop.
View asked to see me again and she defintly will. She is a very sexy funny Chinese Japanese looking girl, not slim but just right IMHO.
I enjoyed my 3hr with the girls very much and I was on my way after paying 4600b. I will come back for some more tulip for sure. Maybe take view and opor next time as the double team is sooo good
I unloaded my first pop in her mouth while 69 her pussy. After that she started a slow foot massage but I kept feeling that something is missing. Maybe she was scared of me or just being shy.
So after a minute or two I asked if we can add another lady. She approved and asked "who?" I gave her my shortlist (based on reports) from memory by that order. View, opor and gop. And sent her to check if they can come. After a moment she comes back with view and boy now the party started! Pamy was now more wiling to please and felt more loose and from that moment was way more GFE. View was very good, she is quite the actress but in a good funny way.
Great skills and pure pse. Sucked on my fingers (legs and hands) , licked my ears my nippels and even my knees. Sucked my dick like a pro with a lot of spit and gagging
She and pamy was now in a competition of my little guy. Pop 2 went in view's mouth cause I could not hold it anymore and again while 69 her pussy. After a short rest view took the lead and wanted some fucking to start so I started fucking pamy first pussy than ass. She took it quite well. Changed condoms and moved over to view. Fucked her pussy hard while dfk pamy until she came. Pamy left once her 2hr was up. And view stayed for another hour. More BBBJ and a final long anal session for my last pop.
View asked to see me again and she defintly will. She is a very sexy funny Chinese Japanese looking girl, not slim but just right IMHO.
I enjoyed my 3hr with the girls very much and I was on my way after paying 4600b. I will come back for some more tulip for sure. Maybe take view and opor next time as the double team is sooo goodI think it's only natural for a smaller and weaker woman to feel a little apprehensive with a bigger and stronger guy, whom she doesn't know at all, no matter how experienced she is. Because her experience is with other guys, who might be different from you. That's why it often takes 2 or 3 massage sessions with the lady, before she gets to know you well enough to loosen up with you.
But a quicker way to solve this problem is exactly what you did, which is invite another lady and have the two ladies double-team you. Because when the ladies outnumber you, then you are the one who is at a disadvantage in case of trouble, as far as they are concerned. Having two ladies at the same time, especially when they are friends with each other, helps them to relax and behave naturally with you, even when they don't know you at all.
But besides helping the lady to relax, there is another reason why she would perform better with you in the presence of another lady. Many psychological studies have found that there is such a thing as a 'co-action effect' and an 'audience effect'. People usually work faster and better, when they have another person doing the same task with them, which is the co-action effect. And people also perform a lot better in the presence of a passive audience, when they are doing a task that they had a lot of practice in and know really well. Which is the audience effect.
http://www.simplypsychology.org/Social-Facilitation.html
It means that the lady will perform better with you, even if you just invite her friend or the mamasan to stand there and watch how the lady does you, without getting involved in the sex-action with you.
Such an audience is actually what you need for a true PSE experience with the lady. Because porn-stars always have other people watching them, when they are performing their porn action. This includes the cameraman, the film director, and probably some support staff too. Perhaps this is why porn action often looks so good on screen. Both the guy and the lady have an audience watching them, which makes them both perform really well with each other, sexually speaking that is.
I suppose, having a passive audience watching you might be of use not only for you to get the true PSE experience, but also for the massage parlour. Because they can have new ladies come and watch how the more experienced ladies do their guys. It would be a teaching experience for them, and their teacher, the lady who does you, will probably perform a lot better with you. Because she'll be doing you the best she can in order to show to the less experienced ladies the proper way to do it.
I think it's only natural for a smaller and weaker woman to feel a little apprehensive with a bigger and stronger guy, whom she doesn't know at all, no matter how experienced she is. Because her experience is with other guys, who might be different from you. That's why it often takes 2 or 3 massage sessions with the lady, before she gets to know you well enough to loosen up with you.
But a quicker way to solve this problem is exactly what you did, which is invite another lady and have the two ladies double-team you. Because when the ladies outnumber you, then you are the one who is at a disadvantage in case of trouble, as far as they are concerned. Having two ladies at the same time, especially when they are friends with each other, helps them to relax and behave naturally with you, even when they don't know you at all.
But besides helping the lady to relax, there is another reason why she would perform better with you in the presence of another lady. Many psychological studies have found that there is such a thing as a 'co-action effect' and an 'audience effect'. People usually work faster and better, when they have another person doing the same task with them, which is the co-action effect. And people also perform a lot better in the presence of a passive audience, when they are doing a task that they had a lot of practice in and know really well. Which is the audience effect..A bit far fetched I might add!
A bit far fetched I might add!It's better to have a far-fetched explanation that is based on the evidence and is true, than to have a close-fetched explanation that isn't based on the evidence and is false.
It's better to have a far-fetched explanation that is based on the evidence and is true, than to have a close-fetched explanation that isn't based on the evidence and is false.Apologies to all the amateur psychologists but the lady in interested in BAHT, lots of BAHT and she is going to be interested in BAHT all the time she is with you. That does not mean that in any way you should not treat herewith care and consideration, but you motive is an enjoyable pop (or 2. 3) and hers is BAHT.
Spare me Psychology (Amateur) 101
AssLover945
11-17-13, 12:24
Apologies to all the amateur psychologists but the lady in interested in BAHT, lots of BAHT and she is going to be interested in BAHT all the time she is with you. That does not mean that in any way you should not treat herewith care and consideration, but you motive is an enjoyable pop (or 2. 3) and hers is BAHT.
Spare me Psychology (Amateur) 101Exactly my thoughts on the subject. And if she were that timid, she wouldn't be in this business first of all!
Exactly my thoughts on the subject. And if she were that timid, she wouldn't be in this business first of all!Most girls performance will be worse with another girl present if she is at all shy or not used to working with another girl. I don't agree that no shy girls will do this type of work although Annies is probably not the most likely work place choice for shy girls.
Even very experienced girls that are really into letting themselves go and enjoy, can be quite inhibited when another girl is present. So when taking two girls together, make sure they both want it, like each other a lot, and are well used to it. I prefer to be sure they even are fine with licking another girl's pussy first and visa versa.
Why the guy's session suddenly improved with Pamy and View together, I have no idea, and I don't think it matters much. The writer had no idea exactly what was missing, but it turned into a great sex party. Could be as simple as the girl was slightly stressed and then the stress was eased by assistance. Of course we weren't there, so any wild guess is no better than another.
Paul Kausch
11-27-13, 00:31
Most girls performance will be worse with another girl present if she is at all shy or not used to working with another girl.
Even very experienced girls that are really into letting themselves go and enjoy, can be quite inhibited when another girl is present. So when taking two girls together, make sure they both want it, like each other a lot, and are well used to it. I prefer to be sure they even are fine with licking another girl's pussy first and visa versa.I always seek guidance when choosing two girls for a threesome. You touch on the important points, shyness and reluctance to perform lesbian acts. Some girls are good in threesomes when there is no girl on girl action. Other girls, even if they're not lesbian or bisexual, are comfortable licking pussy. I think sometimes the girls do perform better with a second lady. It's a change of pace from the typical one girl and one guy routine; and there's another girl there to share the load.
Bottom line, ask to make sure you get two ladies who work well together and if you want lesbian action, make this very clear upfront. Cherry Massage is a good example. When I inquired about girls for threesomes, one duo they recommended was Ploy with Vodka (and they got a very good review on ISG a couple of months ago) ; however, for a lesbian duo they recommended Vodka with Ben. They wrote in the email to me, "Ploy and Vodka have a good feeling together but Ploy don't like the intensive lesbian actions."
Lover Boy #2
11-27-13, 08:59
Apologies to all the amateur psychologists but the lady in interested in BAHT, lots of BAHT and she is going to be interested in BAHT all the time she is with you. That does not mean that in any way you should not treat herewith care and consideration, but you motive is an enjoyable pop (or 2. 3) and hers is BAHT.
Spare me Psychology (Amateur) 101Great point. Baht going to 32 (against USD) shortly!
Apologies to all the amateur psychologists but the lady in interested in BAHT, lots of BAHT and she is going to be interested in BAHT all the time she is with you. That does not mean that in any way you should not treat herewith care and consideration, but you motive is an enjoyable pop (or 2. 3) and hers is BAHT.
Spare me Psychology (Amateur) 101It sounds like you aren't very good at pleasing the ladies. Because when you are good at getting the lady sexually excited and ready, then for sure she is going to have sex on her mind and not just the money.
What you say might be true for you. Because this might be your experience with the ladies as a result of your behavior with them.
But I can say for myself that the ladies with me almost always get sexually excited in a visible kind of way, with their pussies wet, faces flushed, and them breathing heavily. Because I enjoy a lot more massaging the ladies, especially their pussies, than them massaging me. I have to goals, when I go to a massage parlor. One is to massage the massage lady and two is to give her a really good pussy ride. And my massage on her is what usually leads to the good pussy ride. Because it's her pussy I massage the most to the point where she gets so sexually excited that she asks me to ride her, so that she won't orgasm right there and then.
There are visible signs of sexual excitement that you can see on the lady's face and body, when she is excited like this. I know what these signs are, because I've seen them many times. And signs like this is what I try to get, when I'm with the lady.
But of course, if you don't pay attention to this kind of thing and you don't try to please the lady much, you only expect her to please you. Then indeed what you say is true. The lady is going to have money on her mind, while she is going through the motions of having sex with you. But this is your doing and not hers. You get out of it as much as you put in.
This is a self-fulfilling prophecy, where you get what you expect. Because your behavior causes it to happen the way you expect.
I tried to hook up with O-por today for my 5th visit in the last 2 months, but my texts were too late and she was busy. I was thinking of coming back but knowing how much she puts into her sessions and the fact that I had just arrived and was horny as hell, I decided to find one of the other stars and go for something different instead of waiting.
The girls all sat down in the little room and told me their names and I didn't recognize any, so I went with the girl who was working the desk, Janet (later found out her Thai name is Dta (eye) but it's easier for farangs to remember Janet). She's a working girl there like the rest, just happened to greet me when I entered.
The session was fantastic, more GFE than O-Por's PSE, but still absolutely terrific. She does everything that O-por does and really seemed to get into it. I have a feeling that because of her reputation, O-por is a lot busier, so sometimes going with the lower volume ladies may be a good idea. Not that O-por ever seems tired or burned out!
The 90 minutes was action packed and I felt we had a real connection. Janet seemed to do some of the fake moaning stuff at first but that stopped and the rest felt genuine. Her style is slower and more passionate as opposed to O-por's more PSE experience. But everything is on the menu, enthusiastically. I thought she was really pretty, like O-por, with a fantastic ass that feels great all oiled up!
I saw O-por on the way out and said hello. Wow she looked beautiful as usual. So now there are two terrific ladies for me at Tulip. After going to Annie's for years I doubt I will ever go back. Way better girls, way better service, at a lower price at Tulip. The only downside is a 4 stop BTS ride instead of a 5 minute walk. The ride is well worth it.
I tried to hook up with O-por today for my 5th visit in the last 2 months, but my texts were too late and she was busy. I was thinking of coming back but knowing how much she puts into her sessions and the fact that I had just arrived and was horny as hell, I decided to find one of the other stars and go for something different instead of waiting.
The girls all sat down in the little room and told me their names and I didn't recognize any, so I went with the girl who was working the desk, Janet (later found out her Thai name is Dta (eye) but it's easier for farangs to remember Janet). She's a working girl there like the rest, just happened to greet me when I entered.Thanks Pablo for providing a new performer. Have to give her a shot soon. Opor, Goff, View, Pim and a few others have always been on my radar but lately the super stars are difficult to grab if you just do a walk in. It is a hit or miss and then like you did a new talent gets identified. Lately, View has been a disappointment with lots of excuses and below average performance. Claims she is not in good mood due to family issues. With the holidays and demonstrations, I was told business at Tulip is still the same with the regulars. They do not depend much on tourist traffic. It is all word of mouth.
Happy holidays,
Z.
Janet seemed to do some of the fake moaning stuff at first but that stopped and the rest felt genuine.I can identify as have also experienced a girl starting with moaning that seemed fake, but once she got excited for real, she forgot to do it any more. Something different might then reappear if she gets really carried away.
Recently went to Tulip for my first visit.
Of course I had RTFF, and came armed with a list.
The girls all gathered in the small booth, but I just started asking names from my list to the reception lady.
View: on holiday, O-por: busy, Gop: available!
Had a great session with her, a real PSE. Included shower, BBBJ, rimming, A levels and CIM.
I had only booked for an hour, managed 1 SOG, but with a more than decent oily massage afterwards: strong hands!
All in all a super visit.
Thanks to all in this forum!
i can identify as have also experienced a girl starting with moaning that seemed fake, but once she got excited for real, she forgot to do it any more. something different might then reappear if she gets really carried away.i don't think it makes sense to wait for the lady to get excited on her own. because her excitement depends a lot on what you do with her.
her fake moans are a clear sign that your love-making techniques aren't working well with her. it's a sign that you need to keep changing and adjusting what you are doing with her, while listening to her moans, until her moans begin to sound real and genuine.
the lady's pussy and clit are equivalent to the man's cock in terms of the pleasure the lady feels from it. a fast, well-lubricated pussy massage with your hand between the lady's legs is a sure way to get her sexually aroused in a genuine and sincere way. you can sexually arouse a lady this way, even if she isn't especially attracted to you. because it works the same way as masturbation for a guy. the lady's sexual arousal happens automatically as a result of the physical stimulation she gets from you.
you just need to make sure that your pussy and clit massage is gentle enough to keep it pleasant for her, instead of causing her discomfort. which is true for guys too, when it comes to masturbation. you need to pay attention to her moans and her body movements to judge how well you are pleasing her and keep adjusting your pussy-massage technique in terms of speed, breadth, direction, and pressure, until you get positive feedback from the lady, which shows that you are pleasing her well. and you can actually feel with your pussy-massaging hand when you are doing well with the lady. because her pussy lips and clit harden and increase in size, and quite often her pussy gets wet with natural lubrication, which you can also feel with your hand while you are massaging her pussy.
you don't actually need to rely on the lady's moans and groans to judge whether she is sexually aroused or not. all you need to do is massage her pussy with a well-lubricated hand, and you will feel on your hand the unmistakeable physical signs of her sexual arousal. these physical signs happen automatically, and they cannot be faked.
well-lubricated pussy massage with your hand is not only the surest and the easiest way to arouse a woman sexually, but this also is the surest way to know that the woman is truly and fully sexually aroused. because you can feel on your pussy-massaging hand the swelling and the hardening of her pussy lips and clit and the increasing wetness of her pussy. this kind of thing is sincere every time. there is no chance at all that the pretty lady is faking it with you, when you have your hand on her pussy and you can feel with your hand whether she is sexually aroused or not. the lady's sexual arousal isn't as visible as the erection of a guy. but her sexual arousal you can easily feel with you hand, when you massage her pussy.
I tried Tulips for the first time last Monday around 4pm and went in and had my list prepared. I seen the ladies first and none of them caught my attention apart from one lovely lady. I asked the lady boy at the desk is O-Por available and was told she is upstairs busy already, then I asked is Goff available and she said yes she is right there. It was the girl who caught my eye previously. Paid 800 2 hr oily+1500 to the ladyboy and went upstairs. As soon as we entered the room she asked me to strip and was giggling that I was already hard and ready. She started licking my balls and sucking me of before the shower. We then shower after a bit and then back to the bed, on the bed she licks me everywhere and sucks me off then fucks me cow girl. I was loving this. After I cum then its quick shower then massage. She has super strong hands and gives quite a good oil massage. After we fool around for a bit then she asks would I like to fuck her ass. I said yes, do that and pop 2 is out. Next another massage then round 3. Round 3 she tries it by hand to no end then I ask her to fuck me again, fucks me for a while then I start on her until near to the session of 2 hours are up. I couldn't cum a third time as I think she was too loose inside. Before she was quite naughty and playful most of the time but at the end she didn't seem happy she had to work hard and hardly spoke.
Overall was a great pse but only negative was her attitude at the end.
AsianBruce
01-06-14, 06:02
Many girls offer this, or just a few? We have to say it before booking?
Fast Eddie 48
01-08-14, 00:27
Many girls offer this, or just a few? We have to say it before booking?To Asianbruce.
Most of the girl in Tulip do Anal that is not something I want but I do enjoy AR and I only have one girl that don't want to do it, just confirm with the mamas an before you pick the girl.
Fast Eddie 48
She started licking my balls and sucking me of before the shower. We then shower after a bit and then back to the bed, on the bed she licks me everywhere and sucks me off then fucks me cow girl. I was loving this. After I cum then its quick shower then massage. She has super strong hands and gives quite a good oil massage. After we fool around for a bit then she asks would I like to fuck her ass. I said yes, do that and pop 2 is out. Next another massage then round 3. Round 3 she tries it by hand to no end then I ask her to fuck me again, fucks me for a while then I start on her until near to the session of 2 hours are up. I couldn't cum a third time as I think she was too loose inside. Before she was quite naughty and playful most of the time but at the end she didn't seem happy she had to work hard and hardly spoke.I think it's normal for a guy not to cum for the third time in one session. This isn't something to complain about. Because this might be your natural limitation and not the lady's fault.
Perhaps she was hoping for a tip from you, but in the end she realized that you were expecting so much from her that she couldn't please you enough. Which was something to be disappointed about in her line of work. They usually get tips, when they do this much work with a guy.
I stopped by the other night, for my 10th visit in 5 years. The girls aren't as good looking as before (remember Tina?) but the service is absolutely top. I had one hour of pure porn fantasy come true with Nat. She's a nice girl too. There's nowhere else quite like the Tulip. The format is safe, predictable, clean (I like the dowdy entrance) but what you get up to depends on you. Your imagination. For me a few times a year it is just what I need, so long may it continue!
i don't think it makes sense to wait for the lady to get excited on her own. because her excitement depends a lot on what you do with her.
her fake moans are a clear sign that your love-making techniques aren't working well with her. it's a sign that you need to keep changing and adjusting what you are doing with her, while listening to her moans, until her moans begin to sound real and genuine. .
the lady's pussy and clit are equivalent to the man's cock in terms of the pleasure the lady feels from it. a fast, well-lubricated pussy massage with your hand between the lady's legs is a sure way to get her sexually aroused in a genuine and sincere way. you can sexually arouse a lady this way, even if she isn't especially attracted to you. because it works the same way as masturbation for a guy. the lady's sexual arousal happens automatically as a result of the physical stimulation she gets from you.
you just need to make sure that your pussy and clit massage is gentle enough to keep it pleasant for her, my experience with many massage girls is that often they prefer that you don't arouse them too much sexually so that they cum because cumming makes them "tired." i think what they mean is that if they cum with you, they lose their motivation to be sexy with the next guy. that said, if there is some sexual chemistry on her side for you or she is just feeling horny, she might want to cum anyway. best to see them as sex therapists, a bit like head therapists but instead of getting all of your psychoses and phobias or whatever out of you she gets your semen out of you.
the point of the tulip experience is that you get to do things with the girl that most girls will not agree to, certainly not with a stranger! you get the full porn star experience too, if that is what you want. you get as much sex as you want, as many pops as you want in the allotted time. but the last thing you should be concerned with is whether she is able to cum or to adjust your game to make her cum.
if a genuine orgasm by a girl is what you want, you may be able to find one in a massage place (there used to be a lady called gitar at tulip who either genuinely would cum every time or else she was a brilliant actress and liar!. sadly she is long gone) but that would require a lot of work on your part. you are more likely to get a candidate for orgasm in a place where the girls are not having as much sex as the popular girls in places like tulip. try to take out a girl from those massage places where they only do hj or bj but no fs, find an orgasmic freelancer or a bar girl who is for some reason not getting the amount of trade she ought to for some reason. one guy i knew claimed that if you go for the less good-looking ladies you are more likely to get them to orgasm. certainly, if you go for the older (30+) ladies, you are more likely to get them to orgasm.
my experience with many massage girls is that often they prefer that you don't arouse them too much sexually so that they cum because cumming makes them "tired."sexual arousal doesn't have to end in orgasm either for men or for women. you can extend sexual arousal and pleasure for many hours by stopping short of orgasm and taking a short break to regain control. this is true for both men and women.
i agree with you that massage ladies usually don't want to go all the way to orgasm, when you sexually arouse them. because they need to stay in the mood for sex and keep enjoying it for a long time, not just with you, but with other guys too. their ability to perform well with several guys depends on it.
you just need to use common sense. you need to arouse your lady enough to make the sex real and enjoyable for both you and her, but not so much that she will orgasm with you.
the thing about women's orgasm is that it usually results from clitoral stimulation, but a woman's clitoris doesn't get much stimulation in most sex positions during sexual intercourse. which means that you can sexually arouse your lady by massaging her pussy and clit with your hand, until you feel her pussy lips and clit harden in a kind of female erection. then you can stop massaging her and go for your sexual intercourse with her for your orgasm. she probably won't orgasm this way, because sexual intercourse doesn't stimulate her clitoris that much. but she will enjoy the sex with you as a result of her sexual arousal. this is a good way to make the lady ready and have her enjoy with you, without making her orgasm.
this is actually the routine i've learned from one massage lady, whom i've visited several times. on my first time with her, i was a little nervous with her and lost my erection, just when she spread her legs for me to penetrate. she looked a little annoyed, but she knew what to do. she showed me to massage her pussy and clit with the flat of my hand in a circular motion. which i did. she started breathing heavily and got sexually aroused quite a bit. and then she literally pulled me on top of her for my ride with her to avoid orgasming right there and then.
i visited her again and again several times. every time i went after her pussy with the flat of my hand to get her sexually aroused just like before. and every time she practically raped me with her pussy to avoid orgasming with me. which i liked at that time.
i now know from my experience that not every massage lady will [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you in this situation. you just need to use common sense and make it enjoyable for the lady and you, without making her orgasm.
my experience with many massage girls is that often they prefer that you don't arouse them too much sexually so that they cum because cumming makes them "tired." i think what they mean is that if they cum with you, they lose their motivation to be sexy with the next guy. that said, if there is some sexual chemistry on her side for you or she is just feeling horny, she might want to cum anyway. best to see them as sex therapists, a bit like head therapists but instead of getting all of your psychoses and phobias or whatever out of you she gets your semen out of you.i find that bargirls are less likely to avoid cumming through fear of getting tired, as most of them would not be fucking another customer on the same night. however bargirls that try to do multiple sts per night are unlikely to be into the sex much in my experience.
some mp girls have stamina and do not fear being tired from an orgasm. however not many girls are cumming in every session. most mp girls that are my type, admit to cumming moderately regularly with a variety of different customers however. they are not going to bullshit me and say that i am the special one who can get them there. i rarely repeat with girls who obviously are not really into it, and especially do not like actresses or fake girls (usually detectable). it helps make me horny if girls seem to be having a good time (get turned on) , even if they do not cum.
its good that some girls will say that they do not want to come today, rather than put on an act. bullshit doesn't really help a session unless customer is a very non sceptical type.
Paul Kausch
01-11-14, 19:28
There is a body of scientific research on the female orgasm. I was never that familiar with it and what I know was based on research conducted in the 70's and 80's, so my knowledge is not current. There is considerable variation in the number or orgasms and the latencies between orgasms among women. A few can't cum; a few can cum hundreds of times in a day with very brief latencies. Naturally most are in between.
I really like the women I'm with to cum a lot, so that is something I touch on in my reports. Based on my personal experiences this past December if you're like me, Cheer at Bamboo is a good choice. She says, Bo confirms and my experience was that for all practical purposes there is no limit to how many orgasms she can have in a day. She really wants to cum at least once during each session and on a good day will cum more than once in every one of her sessions. One evening she came five times with me and Bo over the course of no more than 2 hours, and she wanted to keep going. We stopped because Bo was dying to go to dinner. For Bo, one satisfies her for a good long time, but she's experienced enough I doubt if her performance suffers with the next client after cumming. My hunch is Aor (#24) at Annie's can cum many times every day. I think that is also true of Fiona at Pure Bangkok Escorts, however this isn't really an issue with escorts because they're not seeing large numbers of clients every day.
I think there are plenty of women in the MPs, which is where this is most an issue, who are multi-orgasmic, it's just a matter of finding them.
There is a body of scientific research on the female orgasm. I was never that familiar with it and what I know was based on research conducted in the 70's and 80's, so my knowledge is not current. There is considerable variation in the number or orgasms and the latencies between orgasms among women. A few can't cum; a few can cum hundreds of times in a day with very brief latencies. Naturally most are in between.There is a video about the latest orgasm research at Ted website. Perhaps you might be interested in watching it.
http://www.ted.com/talks/mary_roach_10_things_you_didn_t_know_about_orgasm.html
Unfortunately, I haven't met that many multi-orgasmic women. Most women I've been with have lost their sexual desire for a while after their orgasm. Which isn't something you want to happen in the middle of your massage session with the lady.
I think it's best to pay attention to what the lady wants, when it comes to making her orgasm. Because she knows better than you whether having an orgasm will decrease her sexual desire or not. If she is stopping your pussy massage on her or cunnilingus and asking you to give her a ride instead, then this is sure sign that she doesn't want to have an orgasm, probably because she knows that this will decrease her sexual desire and impair her subsequent performance with you and other guys.
There is a body of scientific research on the female orgasm. I was never that familiar with it and what I know was based on research conducted in the 70's and 80's, so my knowledge is not current. There is considerable variation in the number or orgasms and the latencies between orgasms among women. A few can't cum; a few can cum hundreds of times in a day with very brief latencies. Naturally most are in between.A lot of the early research was flawed too. As an example having non-representative sample groups. Really average normal people just don't have the desire to be involved in the studies. Some people involved were awful liars too claiming their sex-life is better than it really is. You have to remain sceptical about a lot of dogmatic claims.
From my own experience, I can claim that in general girls can have multiple orgasms. Many girls have claimed to be happy with two and not much desire to push for more. Others like my current GF, go significantly past two and eventually stop when claims exhausted. Some girls are happy with just one. I have met plenty of girls that do not orgasm easily, but very few that could not orgasm at all or never ever had one. With the right stimulus whether be DATY, vibrator, finger or a combination, a low percentage could not get an orgasm (if they were allowing it) after 30 minutes. I know girls that would take 20 to 25 mins of DATY with very slow build up but I am guessing that not many guys are that patient. Fortunately the tongue is a very strong organ that never tires.
An ex-wife had never had one, and it took about two months to work out the right combination of dick and finger stimulation to get her there. After that, no problem at all, but always had to be done the same way. The problem with many girls that never had cum, is when they had never masturbated to work out what feels best for them.
Its very hard for couples to be totally compatible, in style of sex, duration, frequency, being able to give exactly what the other likes. In my case and GF, she doesn't have the stamina to go long duration (cums too much) and frequency is also too low for me. So mongering sort of fills in the gaps. I really should choose a girl that takes a long time orgasm since I take a long time.
Shops like Tulip can be good due being able to get very long duration sex bouts and get them very frequently too. Good for sex addicts.
Unfortunately, I haven't met that many multi-orgasmic women. Most women I've been with have lost their sexual desire for a while after their orgasm. Which isn't something you want to happen in the middle of your massage session with the lady.I don't think you can expect MP girls to want a lot of orgasms. They claim it can tire them when there is still a long working day ahead. Many MP girls would honestly say "please quit the DATY, I don't want to cum as will spoil my ability to work out the day properly". Other girls are not scared of becoming lacklustre and will succumb multiple times (yes its a lowish percentage).
I am always amused by guys who say that MP girls never cum and its just work. Sure the girl won't cum if the guy doesn't service her adequately. I am sure we agree on that. Not many girls claim to never enjoy their work, and some of those may be forced to tell lies too. When I had a Soapy MP GF in the past, I was not so naïve as to think she would never ever get it off (cum) with some other customer. She was already orgasmic with me, so why not others too? She had a much stronger jealousy streak than me.
I am always amused by guys who say that MP girls never cum and its just work. Sure the girl won't cum if the guy doesn't service her adequately. I am sure we agree on that. Not many girls claim to never enjoy their work, and some of those may be forced to tell lies too. When I had a Soapy MP GF in the past, I was not so naïve as to think she would never ever get it off (cum) with some other customer. She was already orgasmic with me, so why not others too? She had a much stronger jealousy streak than me.It all comes down to the fact that it's possible for both men and women to be in the mood for sex for a long time and enjoy the sex all day long, if you stop short of orgasm every time to make the pleasure last.
Absence of orgasm doesn't mean absence of pleasure. It's just that the pleasure without orgasm is different. It's less intense than orgasm, but it lasts a lot longer than orgasm.
Guys don't need to last the whole day, unless they want to visit several massage parlors and do it with several ladies on the same day. But massage ladies do need to last the whole day and still be ready to repeat their performance the next day. Which means that you need to pleasure the ladies without bringing them all the way to orgasm, unless you know for sure that the lady is mult-orgasmic and she doesn't mind having orgasms with you.
It's like when you want to visit two or three massage ladies on the same day, one after the other. And you ask the first lady not to make you orgasm, because you want to preserve your ability to perform with the other ladies too. But the first lady makes you orgasm anyway, because she is jealous and she doesn't want you to bang the other ladies too. Then you aren't going to be too happy about having an orgasm with her, because this will ruin your plans for the day.
And that's the way it is for massage ladies. Because their plan for the day is to bang several guys, one after the other.
Member #4263
01-22-14, 20:43
It all comes down to the fact that it's possible for both men and women to be in the mood for sex for a long time and enjoy the sex all day long, if you stop short of orgasm every time to make the pleasure last.
Absence of orgasm doesn't mean absence of pleasure. It's just that the pleasure without orgasm is different. It's less intense than orgasm, but it lasts a lot longer than orgasm.
Guys don't need to last the whole day, unless they want to visit several massage parlors and do it with several ladies on the same day. But massage ladies do need to last the whole day and still be ready to repeat their performance the next day. Which means that you need to pleasure the ladies without bringing them all the way to orgasm, unless you know for sure that the lady is mult-orgasmic and she doesn't mind having orgasms with you.
It's like when you want to visit two or three massage ladies on the same day, one after the other. And you ask the first lady not to make you orgasm, because you want to preserve your ability to perform with the other ladies too. But the first lady makes you orgasm anyway, because she is jealous and she doesn't want you to bang the other ladies too. Then you aren't going to be too happy about having an orgasm with her, because this will ruin your plans for the day.
And that's the way it is for massage ladies. Because their plan for the day is to bang several guys, one after the other.Does Tulip have a website? I want to see who they have before I decide whether to visit or not.
Does Tulip have a website? I want to see who they have before I decide whether to visit or not.There is a website called Tulip Massage, but it's not affiliated with the Tulip Massage parlor. It's just a directory of massage parlors in Bangkok and some information about each place, including a link to their website, if they have one.
http://www.tulipmassage.com/tulip-massage-the-shop/
But the Tulip Massage parlor itself doesn't have a website. The only way to see their ladies is to go there and see them for yourself.
I gave this joint a try as it was right across from the Marriott hotel I was staying at. It was hard to resist given the good reports I've read.
However, I also didn't do sufficient research, and went in without a name in mind.
I got a fairly cold treatment at the reception, and the reception already knew what I was going for when went up to her. I choose the 90m option, and went up. I was not asked for a masseuse, nor was I given a selection to work with, which left me a bit confused.
However, the attendant that I got was not a bad looker, but she did seem a bit older than I am, which was a bit of a turn off. (I am mid 20's)
Asked what service I want, and I asked for a BJ, not the full package since I was a bit drained from my the LT session with a Baccarra girl the night before. She was tried to sell me into Full service, but I politely denied. She also mentioned that her pay is mainly from the additional service, which was a bit of a guilt trip. I panicked a bit and lied on the spot saying I was more interested in the massage, and she giggled a bit and proceeded with the service. BJ started in the shower, and then also again in the bed, bareback of course.
Like I said, I had a longggg session the night before, and with the lack of rest I had in between, the BJ / HJ lasted almost 30 minutes. She was quite diligent, and tried many things I didn't even was a turn on to me, like a prostate massage, which was completely new to me. CIM finish, and felt the sore on my dick due to the repeated sessions, showered. She puts me back on the bed right away and was working towards a 2nd shot. I politely declined due to the other events I had planned afterwards, wanted to save my stamina, however little was left. Chatted a bit, agreed for a "full" session the next day, which I didn't follow through with. (Only agreed to have her stop pushing me, did feel a bit bad afterwards).
Unfortunately, I do not have a name to provide for the report, but I just wanted to contribute back a bit. I will definitely give this another try, however, I will want to select my own masseuse on my next visit for sure. I do like this approach as it skips through the whole process of finding a girl and taking it back to the hotel. By far the best for daytime mongering.
Thanks again for the recommendation.
Member #4263
02-12-14, 16:40
I gave this joint a try as it was right across from the Marriott hotel I was staying at. It was hard to resist given the good reports I've read.
However, I also didn't do sufficient research, and went in without a name in mind.
I got a fairly cold treatment at the reception, and the reception already knew what I was going for when went up to her. I choose the 90m option, and went up. I was not asked for a masseuse, nor was I given a selection to work with, which left me a bit confused.
However, the attendant that I got was not a bad looker, but she did seem a bit older than I am, which was a bit of a turn off. (I am mid 20's)
Asked what service I want, and I asked for a BJ, not the full package since I was a bit drained from my the LT session with a Baccarra girl the night before. She was tried to sell me into Full service, but I politely denied. She also mentioned that her pay is mainly from the additional service, which was a bit of a guilt trip. I panicked a bit and lied on the spot saying I was more interested in the massage, and she giggled a bit and proceeded with the service...Sucks you didn't get to pick! Will be in BKK for the first time next month and I'm thinking of giving Tulip a try. I'm like you (mid-20's).
How can you not know her name though? How old was she do you know? I never got along with ladyboys, so I imagine that I'll probably have to be extra nice to the receptionist. I don't even do it on purpose, I guess they smell my conservatism LOL!
Anyhow, can more guys report on recent events at Tulip? The place is a bit of an institution like Annie's and I'm eager to try it. I don't mind women in their early 30's (had a wonderful B2B with a 32-year old Thai in Amsterdam). However, she has to be slim and reasonably attractive! I know, I know. Everybody is different and MMMV.
Member #4263
02-13-14, 00:21
Newbie here, but I am wondering whether Tulip still deserves its own thread. I've been reading and asking around and it seems that the quality is very low these days, while Cherry and Mango appear to have taken over and seem to thrive.
I read the threads from 2006 in some other forums and that Tulip seems long gone. Am I missing something?
Francesco24
02-13-14, 04:57
Newbie here, but I am wondering whether Tulip still deserves its own thread. I've been reading and asking around and it seems that the quality is very low these days, while Cherry and Mango appear to have taken over and seem to thrive.
I read the threads from 2006 in some other forums and that Tulip seems long gone. Am I missing something?I had some shorts visit at Tulip this last few days and everytime all the better looking or superstars girls were already upstairs or on out call (this always about 1pm).
So I think the business is still good (even reading in other threads that many shops are desperately looking for costumers. It doesn't seem like that to me).
I gave this joint a try as it was right across from the Marriott hotel I was staying at. It was hard to resist given the good reports I've read.
However, I also didn't do sufficient research, and went in without a name in mind.
I got a fairly cold treatment at the reception, and the reception already knew what I was going for when went up to her. I choose the 90m option, and went up. I was not asked for a masseuse, nor was I given a selection to work with, which left me a bit confused.
However, the attendant that I got was not a bad looker, but she did seem a bit older than I am, which was a bit of a turn off. (I am mid 20's)
Asked what service I want, and I asked for a BJ, not the full package since I was a bit drained from my the LT session with a Baccarra girl the night before. She was tried to sell me into Full service, but I politely denied. She also mentioned that her pay is mainly from the additional service, which was a bit of a guilt trip. I panicked a bit and lied on the spot saying I was more interested in the massage, and she giggled a bit and proceeded with the service. BJ started in the shower, and then also again in the bed, bareback of course.
Like I said, I had a longggg session the night before, and with the lack of rest I had in between, the BJ / HJ lasted almost 30 minutes. She was quite diligent, and tried many things I didn't even was a turn on to me, like a prostate massage, which was completely new to me. CIM finish, and felt the sore on my dick due to the repeated sessions, showered. She puts me back on the bed right away and was working towards a 2nd shot. I politely declined due to the other events I had planned afterwards, wanted to save my stamina, however little was left. Chatted a bit, agreed for a "full" session the next day, which I didn't follow through with. (Only agreed to have her stop pushing me, did feel a bit bad afterwards).
Unfortunately, I do not have a name to provide for the report, but I just wanted to contribute back a bit. I will definitely give this another try, however, I will want to select my own masseuse on my next visit for sure. I do like this approach as it skips through the whole process of finding a girl and taking it back to the hotel. By far the best for daytime mongering.
Thanks again for the recommendation.Tulips is near Soi 55, the JW Marriott Hotel Bangkok.
4 Sukhumvit Road, Soi 2 Bangkok 10110 Thailand
You were Not at Tulips.
What did you pay?
Paul Kausch
02-13-14, 07:08
I gave this joint a try as it was right across from the Marriott hotel I was staying at. It was hard to resist given the good reports I've read.
Tulips is near Soi 55, the JW Marriott Hotel Bangkok.
4 Sukhumvit Road, Soi 2 Bangkok 10110 Thailand
You were Not at Tulips.
What did you pay?The gentleman did not write he was at the JW Marriott. He wrote the Marriott Hotel. The Bangkok Marriott Hotel is at 2 Sukhumvit Soi 57, which is close to Tulips.
The gentleman did not write he was at the JW Marriott. He wrote the Marriott Hotel. The Bangkok Marriott Hotel is at 2 Sukhumvit Soi 57, which is close to Tulips.I stand corrected, thanks, but his experience does not sound like any visit I've had or read about.
Paul Kausch
02-13-14, 07:31
I stand corrected, thanks, but his experience does not sound like any visit I've had or read about.
I had to read his post again to catch that. Normally when we read Marriott we automatically think the JW. At least I do.
My experience is most guys go to Tulip looking for one hell of a PSE. This gentleman reports he was wasted from the night before. Sounds like he just wanted to relax and get a BBBJ. He would have been better off going to a BJ bar. The lady was trying to push him for more services so she could make more money and did her best to coax him into wanting more. Other than the not so subtle hint about her tip, which I never experienced, it sounds consist with Tulip in that the lady was not the one limiting the session. I haven't been to Tulips in years, but my experiences were the ladies were up for anything and everything. They seemed to know no limits, so to speak.
Fast Eddie 48
02-16-14, 14:20
I was in Tulip 3 time recently and Opor was busy with customer and I return the next few days and she was on vacation, she take more vacaion than anyone I know for all of you who ever try her serivce will return for a repeat.
Fast Eddie 48
Member #4263
02-16-14, 16:59
I was in Tulip 3 time recently and Opor was busy with customer and I return the next few days and she was on vacation, she take more vacaion than anyone I know for all of you who ever try her serivce will return for a repeat.
Fast Eddie 48FE,
Thanks for letting us know. Will be in BKK late next month for the 1st time and I'm eager to try Opor.
When I do go to Tulip, I'll be happy to share who I did / didn't find even if I may not decide on a session.
Anyway, is Opor also the prettiest at Tulip? If she's slim (and most importantly available when I check Tulip), I'll do her _.
I'll make sure to bring a list of names:
Opor, Goff, Wheel, Pim, Jo Jo. I'd like to know a bit more on Goff and the others. Are any of them from CM (apart from Wheel) , as opposed to Isaan?
I'm a little concerned about this unfriendly ladyboy, though.
Fast Eddie 48
02-17-14, 04:12
FE,
Thanks for letting us know. Will be in BKK late next month for the 1st time and I'm eager to try Opor.
When I do go to Tulip, I'll be happy to share who I did / didn't find even if I may not decide on a session.
Anyway, is Opor also the prettiest at Tulip? If she's slim (and most importantly available when I check Tulip) , I'll do her _.
I'll make sure to bring a list of names:
Opor, Goff, Wheel, Pim, Jo Jo. I'd like to know a bit more on Goff and the others. Are any of them from CM (apart from Wheel) , as opposed to Isaan?
I'm a little concerned about this unfriendly ladyboy, though.To Tiger.
You don't go to Tulip for good looking lady most are older woman and average looking, you go there for the porn star experience if you want eye candy go to Angel or Cherry massage, there no lady boy at this place if lady boy bother you should stay home.
Fast Eddie 48
I was in Tulip 3 time recently and Opor was busy with customer and I return the next few days and she was on vacation, she take more vacaion than anyone I know for all of you who ever try her serivce will return for a repeat.
Fast Eddie 48I always call a week or 2 a head and make a booking. Opor always kids me about the time that make a booking with her a year in advance. (made a booking in December for January) I always make a booking at the earliest time possible at Tulip. Did Tom one at 10am. In fact, I was right behind her entering the shop on that day.
I always call a week or 2 a head and make a booking. Opor always kids me about the time that make a booking with her a year in advance. (made a booking in December for January) I always make a booking at the earliest time possible at Tulip. Did Tom one at 10am. In fact, I was right behind her entering the shop on that day.Opor is a great girl and my absolute favorite at Tulip. Unfortunately I made a bit of a mistake. The first time I booked Opor based on all the good reports I had read about on ISG and took her in a double with Dao which was one of the hottest PSE sessions ever. Subsequently I went and saw her alone several times and really built up a rapport with her. Got her phone number and she connected me on Line which is the favorite communication tool of all girls. We were exchanging frequent messages even when I was traveling and she agreed to an overnight stay after my return to Bangkok. As it happened that date did not happen as Bo and Pink from Bamboo had an earlier claim. Subsequently made a booking a week later at Tulip and booked another double with Opor and Dao. Great session and Opor was the total professional but I did not get that same warm and fuzzy feeling as in our previous one on one sessions. Sent her a message afterwards and instead of an answer received an exasperated emoticon. Since then there has been radio silence.
Hi guys,
First time posting on this site. After doing a bunch of reading it seems like Tulip is the best place for a PSE and that Opor would provide the best service. Is there anywhere I could find the number for Tulip? Or is this booking / reservation service only available for repeat customers?
I'm reaching Bangkok on March 1st and I know demand can by high so I would love to book earlier rather than later.
Thanks!
Paul Kausch
02-25-14, 05:24
Is there anywhere I could find the number for Tulip?
Thanks!Tulip Massage Bangkok.
806/2-3 Sukhumvit soi 38 (BTS Thonglor Station)
Phrakanong, Bangkok, Thailand.
Tel: +66 (0) 2391 7564
I haven't been to Tulip in quite some time, just wondering if Yok still works there or some where else?
I haven't been to Tulip in quite some time, just wondering if Yok still works there or some where else?Think she stop working at Tulip some years ago, don't know if she's still in the business, maybe others know more?
Too much listen about service of Tulip from my friends. Can anybody suggest me the best lady who is currently available at Tulip.
Too much listen about service of Tulip from my friends. Can anybody suggest me the best lady who is currently available at Tulip.Another management type, often found infesting the dxb threads.
Given you haven't given any specifics as to the type of lady that appeals to YOU (I'll assume breathing is mandatory, but you never know), hard to provide answer of "best". You might try reading the last 10, 15 pages of the thread, looking for FR's with a NAME of someone that sounds interesting. Or, better yet, why don't you walk in the door, say hello, walk downstairs, and see which one there at the time appeals to you. If none do, repeat at a later hour / different day. And when you walk back upstairs, if unaccompanied, ask to see the book, see if anyone in there appeals to you (though photoshop is prevalent here), and see when she's available.
Then, you might try writing an actual FR that'll be useful to others; certainly THAT would be a NEW experience. Eric Swiss has certainly provided a number of useful reports, and, damn, he did it by doing some reading, then boots on the ground.
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