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Red Kilt
03-05-16, 10:08
Mistake to ask the papasan for advice. I agree with Syz. It's a mistake to ask any papa or mamasan to make a recommendation anywhere (bar or MP).

How do they know how a girl will perform with you anyway? They will use the wrong criteria in choosing for you, no matter how carefully you describe what you want.

Even recommendations from other board members are definitely not guaranteed to give you what you want because, as has been said over and over again here, "everyone is different".

Much better to take your time; choose the one that looks right for you and go from there.

Tobyg
03-05-16, 15:49
I think this was the last time for me to visit Annies. Had some amazing experiences about 4-5 years back but service has declined since.I was there recently. I selected a girl who has been well reviewed on this site and had a great time. It's a bit premature to write off the establishment because of a mistake you made. They were looking for someone to try out the new girl and see if she knew what she was doing and you were the bunny that volunteered.

PeeTeePeet
03-05-16, 20:55
Annie's is finally going down the toilet.

Used to be a lot of fun 2-4 years ago, but in recent years the place is getting run down and the service levels are atrocious.

I took #55 and she was a lame duck at best. Was the only decent looking one, but horrible service. Avoid. Passive, bored, rude and generally having a horrible time there. Did not seem to be interested in being there, and gave a really pathetic experience.

Halfway through I asked her to stop and left. Last time at Annie's.

Too many better options in BKK.
-Pete

RajeevIn2014
03-29-16, 18:50
Has anyone tried or seen number 33? Her face is blurred in the picture but still looks kind of a stunner?Yeah her name was Cherry. Too too good. Cannot find her again on the web page of Annie's.

Steven Lee
04-06-16, 13:25
Went to Annie's today. My first time. There were about 20 girls in the fishbowl. I chose 36 who I thought was the most attractive. She is quite pretty and has a nice body (large fake tits). It would have been a fun session but for her attitude. Her favorite word is "no". No to feeling her tits, no to massaging her, no to FIV, no to deep-throat, no to CIM. It was obvious she was not having fun. Very mechanical. I came from her mediocre BJ / HJ, then got dressed and left. 2500 B for 25 min. I would avoid her.

Goatscrot
04-06-16, 16:51
Went to Annie's today. My first time. There were about 20 girls in the fishbowl. I chose 36 who I thought was the most attractive. She is quite pretty and has a nice body (large fake tits). It would have been a fun session but for her attitude. Her favorite word is "no". No to feeling her tits, no to massaging her, no to FIV, no to deep-throat, no to CIM. It was obvious she was not having fun. Very mechanical. I came from her mediocre BJ / HJ, then got dressed and left. 2500 B for 25 min. I would avoid her.Did you complain to the mamasan? If not, you should have. That kind of service is unacceptable. After the first few "nos," I would have gone out in a towel and told the mamasan what was happening and asked for a different gal. At Annie's they would have accommodated you. Don't ever accept that type of service.

Tojo 5445
04-07-16, 04:00
I took number 28 yesterday. Kind of rushed service. They offer up to 2 hours but I was out in 60-70 minutes. The soapy was short, the bath was even shorter. A min into the in bath BBBJ she asked if I came. Sweetheart you wouldn't be asking if I did. Then we dried up, went to the bed, We fucked for 20-25 min and that was it. Also the room had such a strong mildew smell. I thought I saw mold on the wall too. I'll likely go back, but it's more out of laziness than anything else. I'm literally right across the street.

EihTooms
04-07-16, 07:38
A min into the in bath BBBJ she asked if I came. Sweetheart you wouldn't be asking if I did. That is a strange question to ask under the circumstances. Maybe she has encountered a few men so uninspired by her apparently lackluster service in such a depressing environment that, even as soon as 1 minute into her BBBJ, they have been known to reply with something like, "Yep. Sure did. Can I please go now?"

LOL.

Run Mann
04-07-16, 11:33
I'll likely go back, but it's more out of laziness than anything else. I'm literally right across the street.Come on man, you can't be that lazy to settle for that kind of stuff. You're in a city that caters to buyers get out and explore, it will do you good.

Franciscass
04-07-16, 12:00
Come on man, you can't be that lazy to settle for that kind of stuff. You're in a city that caters to buyers get out and explore, it will do you good.Spot on advice. Lower Sukhumvit is full of overpriced bad service run down tourist traps. Go explore. Get the BTS to Phrom Phong, Check out soi's 22,24, 24/1, 26 and 33. Lots of so called oilies thereabouts. If you prefer the suds routine use the MRT to visit Phetchaburi or Ratchada. Lots of info on this and other sites re where to visit and how to get there.

BionicMan
04-09-16, 17:32
Did you complain to the mamasan? If not, you should have. That kind of service is unacceptable. After the first few "nos," I would have gone out in a towel and told the mamasan what was happening and asked for a different gal. At Annie's they would have accommodated you. Don't ever accept that type of service.Perfectly agree. And "she was not having fun" doesn't make sense. Not meaning they have to be sex slaves, but FFS, they are paid to GIVE fun.

Barryg
04-09-16, 20:23
I went to Annies three times last week and chose # 18 always after having a pleasant experience with her first time round.

She is 29 years old, speaks perfect English and has an excellent figure.

Her massage skills both in the tub and on the bed were superb as was the full service. A very approachable, easy going pleasant girl who I recommend strongly.

Haywood
04-12-16, 00:55
Has anyone tried #19 or #31.

If so, could you reply back with a review of the experience? ClM?

BBBJ? GFE? Etc.

Thanks

ScaredOfLuv
04-12-16, 05:12
Has anyone tried #19 or #31.

If so, could you reply back with a review of the experience? ClM?

BBBJ? GFE? Etc.

ThanksAre you in Bangkok Haywood? If so I'm here now.

Haywood
04-14-16, 14:55
Are you in Bangkok Haywood? If so I'm here now.I'm not in BBK yet, will arrive in a few days.

I'll spend a few days in BBK before going to South Thailand.

I've never been to Annie's before but checked their lineup on their web page.

Defiantly interested in #19 or #31.

Syzygies
04-18-16, 02:09
Has anyone tried #19 or #31.

If so, could you reply back with a review of the experience? ClM?

BBBJ? GFE? Etc.

ThanksRTFF. Number 31 has been reviewed more than once. Very positive reports, one from Mackin I believe. Rated as one of the best Annies girls from what I heard. I have not sessioned but last I saw her she looked like had lost weight. Quite slimmed down now. I think initially was not quite that slim. Don't know anything about number 19.

Recently spotted slim new girl number 1. Would like to try her some time soon. I normally book girls I spotted on a previous visit. Hardly ever actually show up with no intended girl and select from the fish bowl. Target girls can be hard to catch in the fish bowl. Maybe only 50% chance or less depending on popularity and hours girl is working.

Syzygies
04-18-16, 02:15
Went to Annie's today. My first time. There were about 20 girls in the fishbowl. I chose 36 who I thought was the most attractive. She is quite pretty and has a nice body (large fake tits). It would have been a fun session but for her attitude. Her favorite word is "no". No to feeling her tits, no to massaging her, no to FIV, no to deep-throat, no to CIM. It was obvious she was not having fun. Very mechanical. I came from her mediocre BJ / HJ, then got dressed and left. 2500 B for 25 min. I would avoid her.I have sessioned with "Air" number 36 in the past (maybe 3 years ago). Was a good GFE session for me, and no issues. Maybe her fake tits are just new and therefore cannot be mauled during the healing process. Could cause pain with scarring not 100% healed. She did not have fake tits when I went with her. Be nice to her and she can be very nice back. It is always my objective in a session to make the girl relaxed and have as much fun as possible so she can doesn't have to feel like it's hard or ugly work. Not always possible to give the girl total fun, since I take a long time to cum, but I try.

Of course plenty of girls do not have deep throat or other pornstar skills. Get realistic.

In website pics of Number 36, she does not have fake tits when those pics were taken. I recall reading other positive reports about number 36.

Franciscass
04-18-16, 12:33
Went to Annie's today. My first time. There were about 20 girls in the fishbowl. I chose 36 who I thought was the most attractive. She is quite pretty and has a nice body (large fake tits). It would have been a fun session but for her attitude. Her favorite word is "no". No to feeling her tits, no to massaging her, no to FIV, no to deep-throat, no to CIM. It was obvious she was not having fun. Very mechanical. I came from her mediocre BJ / HJ, then got dressed and left. 2500 B for 25 min. I would avoid her.I don't understand excuses made for bad performance. Oh you should pity her she was just having a bad day, or she just doesn't like PSE, GFE, DATY, DFK, deep throat, fingering, having her tits touched, being massaged taking too long to cum blah blah yada yada. Even though she was a waste of time and money you should have been nice to her, she's really a lovely girl. That's bullshit, the way it works is that she is nice to you that is why you are paying 2500. If she is unable for some reason or other to offer a satisfactory performance then she should take time off until she is in a position to do so. The reality, the truth is that the performance of Annie girls as experienced by the most recent posters apart from the well-known apologists for the place has been almost all about performances that are below what is acceptable.

Syzygies
04-19-16, 03:01
I don't understand excuses made for bad performance. Oh you should pity her she was just having a bad day, or she just doesn't like PSE, GFE, DATY, DFK, deep throat, fingering, having her tits touched, being massaged taking too long to cum blah blah yada yada. Even though she was a waste of time and money you should have been nice to her, she's really a lovely girl. That's bullshit, the way it works is that she is nice to you that is why you are paying 2500. If she is unable for some reason or other to offer a satisfactory performance then she should take time off until she is in a position to do so. The reality, the truth is that the performance of Annie girls as experienced by the most recent posters apart from the well-known apologists for the place has been almost all about performances that are below what is acceptable.Your usual rant.

Sorry but most reports about that particular girl have been positive. She is generally considered to be good for some customers. YMMV. Your mileage does vary. It is well known different girls perform differently for different customers. It is well known different customers have different requirements. Not very girl is able to do deep throat. Not even girl is willing to have fingers deep in pussy, if she does not trust the customer. Some girls got scratched inside. These are facts of mongering.

I reported on an average to good session with no. 36 in the past. Maybe not really memorable as I did not repeat. This is a fact. We can accept that as a pornstar, she doesn't measure up.

Still waiting for you to post something useful about some particular girl that you thought was good. Alas you remain focussed on shit dumping and on Annies in particular. This is Psycho behaviour. Also known as troll behaviour in the modern day.

EihTooms
04-19-16, 11:20
Your usual rant.

Sorry but most reports about that particular girl have been positive. She is generally considered to be good for some customers. YMMV. Your mileage does vary. It is well known different girls perform differently for different customers. It is well known different customers have different requirements. Not very girl is able to do deep throat. Not even girl is willing to have fingers deep in pussy, if she does not trust the customer. Some girls got scratched inside. These are facts of mongering.

I reported on an average to good session with no. 36 in the past. Maybe not really memorable as I did not repeat. This is a fact. We can accept that as a pornstar, she doesn't measure up.

Still waiting for you to post something useful about some particular girl that you thought was good. Alas you remain focussed on shit dumping and on Annies in particular. This is Psycho behaviour. Also known as troll behaviour in the modern day.I don't know about it being his usual rant, but with regard to his response to StevenLee's report, Franciscass' take on it seems spot on to me. Even "No to feeling her tits"? I would say that is way, way below acceptable behavior for any Thai P4 P girl for whom a customer has paid 2,500 baht. So I don't quite get what is to be gained by lecturing him in this case on the blissfully obvious fact that not all girls or customers are the same, that "These are facts of mongering. " Ok.

Now, I would definitely side with you on your assessment if you make a point to be consistent about it when the girls at the bars and massage shops commiserate with you about those evil customers who don't pay the full amount expected and, therefore, they or the mamasans keep trying to collecting all of the money upfront. Are you? I mean, when they whine about their customers not paying up fully, do you lecture them that "not all customers are the same" and, hey, sometimes the guy just isn't feeling it and might not want to pay you the expected 2,000-2,500+ after he has gotten his rocks off or, if he paid upfront, maybe she ought to seriously consider giving him back a large portion of what he already paid because, you know, "These are the facts of mongering" and all that?

Syzygies
04-19-16, 13:23
I don't know about it being his usual rant, but with regard to his response to StevenLee's report, Franciscass' take on it seems spot on to me. Even "No to feeling her tits"? I would say that is way, way below acceptable behavior for any Thai P4 P girl for whom a customer has paid 2,500 baht. So I don't quite get what is to be gained by lecturing him in this case on the blissfully obvious fact that not all girls or customers are the same, that "These are facts of mongering. " Ok.

Now, I would definitely side with you on your assessment if you make a point to be consistent about it when the girls at the bars and massage shops commiserate with you about those evil customers who don't pay the full amount expected and, therefore, they or the mamasans keep trying to collecting all of the money upfront. Are you? I mean, when they whine about their customers not paying up fully, do you lecture them that "not all customers are the same" and, hey, sometimes the guy just isn't feeling it and might not want to pay you the expected 2,000-2,500+ after he has gotten his rocks off or, if he paid upfront, maybe she ought to seriously consider giving him back a large portion of what he already paid because, you know, "These are the facts of mongering" and all that?I can't know what Steve's behavior was. I have heard from girls of guys sadistically squeezing nipples and of biting as well.

I don't think a girl should be working if she just had new tits done and her tits are too painful to be squeezed even gently. However I pointed out number 36 has mainly received good reports beforw including from me.

In my session, without silicone tits, the girl was not not saying no no no to everything or anything that I can remember. I got a good GFE. Your mileage may vary perhaps the girl liked me and did not like Steve.

I don't understand what is your question. Annies does charge upfront. Maybe Steve deserved a refund, I don't know.

If I had a session so bad I would walk out after just 20 minutes I am sure. I did have one really bad session at Annies but that was a different girl.

I am not saying that girls should disallow their tits to be touched. I merely suggested a likely reason is new tits giving the girl a problem. Reason should be that or customer was just too forceful.

When Strange things happen, I try to understand why. Its only speculation but no one previously had the same complaint. If the girl has painful tits, she should not work.

Once I went with a girl, she said she just had her pussy size reduced, still some pain, and she would have problems to fuck me. It was a BJ bar. She hoped not to fuck. She offered me her ass instead and all was well. I was understanding and had a good time. I liked the girl very much.

It happens that girls sometimes have problems and cannot provide their full normal service but the boss still expects them to show up to work and work with restrictions. Not a great idea.

Plenty of times I meet girl working during her period and has pussy pain and a sponge stuffed up there preventing more than half penetration. This results in a crap session if girl refuses to take the sponge out.

No I don't lecture at shops about how girl or cistomers should behave or how shop should be run. I may have made complaints on occasion but there is little point if the big boss is not there, who has the power to fix the way the shop is run.

When I had a crap girl they would be aware I was not happy. The shop doesn't care really unless most of a girl's customers are not happy. The crap girI I had is still at Annies. Perhaps she is acceptable for some customers. Certainly number 36 has a long term OK reputation.

In my last four fucks, all girls allowed finger in pussy
However they all know me long time and trust me. Its not always allowed by all girls especially with furst time customers. One girl recently wanted me to wank her pussy very fast and vigourously with fingers inside. She trusted I would do no damage. Trust is not automatic. It has to be earned. Sometimes a girl takes a strong dislike to a customer. This results in abnormally bad service of course.

Jojosun
04-24-16, 17:55
Few years Go I had an amazing session and her name was Chicken. Very pretty girl, her number was 69. anyone here remember her or if she's still around somewhere?

EihTooms
04-25-16, 01:09
I can't know what Steve's behavior was. I have heard from girls of guys sadistically squeezing nipples and of biting as well.

I don't think a girl should be working if she just had new tits done and her tits are too painful to be squeezed even gently. However I pointed out number 36 has mainly received good reports beforw including from me.

In my session, without silicone tits, the girl was not not saying no no no to everything or anything that I can remember. I got a good GFE. Your mileage may vary perhaps the girl liked me and did not like Steve.

I don't understand what is your question. Annies does charge upfront. Maybe Steve deserved a refund, I don't know.

If I had a session so bad I would walk out after just 20 minutes I am sure. I did have one really bad session at Annies but that was a different girl.

I am not saying that girls should disallow their tits to be touched. I merely suggested a likely reason is new tits giving the girl a problem. Reason should be that or customer was just too forceful.

When Strange things happen, I try to understand why. Its only speculation but no one previously had the same complaint. If the girl has painful tits, she should not work.

Once I went with a girl, she said she just had her pussy size reduced, still some pain, and she would have problems to fuck me. It was a BJ bar. She hoped not to fuck. She offered me her ass instead and all was well. I was understanding and had a good time. I liked the girl very much.

It happens that girls sometimes have problems and cannot provide their full normal service but the boss still expects them to show up to work and work with restrictions. Not a great idea.

Plenty of times I meet girl working during her period and has pussy pain and a sponge stuffed up there preventing more than half penetration. This results in a crap session if girl refuses to take the sponge out.

No I don't lecture at shops about how girl or cistomers should behave or how shop should be run. I may have made complaints on occasion but there is little point if the big boss is not there, who has the power to fix the way the shop is run.

When I had a crap girl they would be aware I was not happy. The shop doesn't care really unless most of a girl's customers are not happy. The crap girI I had is still at Annies. Perhaps she is acceptable for some customers. Certainly number 36 has a long term OK reputation.

In my last four fucks, all girls allowed finger in pussy
However they all know me long time and trust me. Its not always allowed by all girls especially with furst time customers. One girl recently wanted me to wank her pussy very fast and vigourously with fingers inside. She trusted I would do no damage. Trust is not automatic. It has to be earned. Sometimes a girl takes a strong dislike to a customer. This results in abnormally bad service of course.Ok, then I guess it must have been StevenLee's fault for squeezing her tits too hard, her boss' fault for expecting her to do her job without hassle even when she doesn't feel like it, all of our faults because we are just not understanding enough of the girls' plight, or maybe just some of us specifically because we don't know how to impart enough trust in us for the girl to allow us to do what they allow you to do. Got it. Now I understand why you don't lecture the girls who whine and complain to you about all of us evil customers (not you, of course) that maybe they are lousy at their job, didn't deserve to get the full amount expected and so on because you have simply never met such a girl in all of Bangkok or anywhere else in Thailand. No problem.

Tobyg
04-26-16, 04:54
Few years Go I had an amazing session and her name was Chicken. Very pretty girl, her number was 69. anyone here remember her or if she's still around somewhere?If it's the same girl who once told me her name was Chicken, she's at Dr BJ's Salon.

Jojosun
04-26-16, 13:52
If it's the same girl who once told me her name was Chicken, she's at Dr BJ's Salon.Thank you Tobyg for the info. TBH its been few years since I had the pleasure (8 years). I looked very closely at the photo and I am not 100%.

Obviously she would look older now. When I met her she had longer hair down to her shoulders and she was small and petite, great body and pretty face.

Her English was very good.

Was she like that small and petite and pretty when you met her?

Jojosun
04-26-16, 17:16
Thank you Tobyg for the info. TBH its been few years since I had the pleasure (8 years). I looked very closely at the photo and I am not 100%.

Obviously she would look older now. When I met her she had longer hair down to her shoulders and she was small and petite, great body and pretty face.

Her English was very good.

Was she like that small and petite and pretty when you met her?Annie is one of the major shareholders in the operation, right?? So maybe its Annie's Chicken who is now working at the salon.

The photo is close but the nose seems a bit bigger, from what I can remember.

I hope to find out on my next stopover in BKK.

Can anyone on the ground there find out the background to the present Chicken?

Many thanks in advance.

Zhangsan
04-29-16, 06:15
Went to Annie's for the first time today, previously have enjoyed soapies in other countries. Went with 53, Nan. She said she was 30, was in decent shape, and very friendly; there was a lot of giggling and laughing. Was okay with most things, although I didn't try DATY. We started off with the bath, got a proper body slide with both her front and back, then went to BBBJ in the bath, finished with HJ. Got out of bath, went to massage on the bed; not professional massage by any means, but still nice. Offered oil, I declined (that shit takes forever to get off). Massaged back and front, finished with missionary, then she was up for a bit of cuddling before time was up. Nice girl, sunny attitude, would probably repeat.

BionicMan
04-29-16, 17:39
Annie is one of the major shareholders in the operation, right?? So maybe its Annie's Chicken who is now working at the salon.

The photo is close but the nose seems a bit bigger, from what I can remember.

I hope to find out on my next stopover in BKK.

Can anyone on the ground there find out the background to the present Chicken?

Many thanks in advance.Dr BJ and Annie's swap the girls as they are both under The same ownership, even if I think it is more the case of girls going to Dr BJ from Annie than the other way around. Sunset boulevard in soi 7/1 for the Soi 2 girls? Maybe.

Franciscass
04-30-16, 04:37
Dr BJ and Annie's swap the girls as they are both under The same ownership, even if I think it is more the case of girls going to Dr BJ from Annie than the other way around. Sunset boulevard in soi 7/1 for the Soi 2 girls? Maybe.Soi 2 to Sunset Boulevard Soi 7/1 to Buriram old folk's home?. I am ready for my close up Doctor. I have been wondering seeing as how the DR BJ outfit and Annie's are one and the same whether inviting the police on the premises to test staff for drugs which happened recently at the gel shop extends to the BJ "salon", Annie's soapie and the other bits and pieces around 2/4. Perhaps management could enlighten us.

Acenase
04-30-16, 23:50
Is Dr BJ Salon the same as Dr BJ's Nuru or is that two different places? Which one is owned by Annie's?

Also compared to Annie's where you get the full nuru, BBBJ, shot, massage, fuck, shot routine. Is that the same with Dr BJ's? Or is it just once they give the blowjob you go no FS?

BionicMan
05-01-16, 10:49
Is Dr BJ Salon the same as Dr BJ's Nuru or is that two different places? Which one is owned by Annie's?

Also compared to Annie's where you get the full nuru, BBBJ, shot, massage, fuck, shot routine. Is that the same with Dr BJ's? Or is it just once they give the blowjob you go no FS?Same franchise, one opposite the other in Soi 7/1, two different services, on principle.

Most likely Aye (one of the owners of Annie's, there is no a real Mrs Annie, maybe there was one back in time) has shares in the Dr BJ "holding".

Visit Annie's website and you can see the other venues and services. Best way.

Ultimately. It is all about P4 P under one form of the other.

Breadman
05-01-16, 15:17
Kind of rushed service. They offer up to 2 hours but I was out in 60-70 minutes. I've visited many of the oil massage shops down by soi 22, every time I booked a two hour massage I'd walk out and look at my watch and see that the time lasted exactly two hours. Never shorted time in any of my visits. Every visit to Annies has always ended well short of their two hour booking. What gives?

BionicMan
05-01-16, 16:09
I've visited many of the oil massage shops down by soi 22, every time I booked a two hour massage I'd walk out and look at my watch and see that the time lasted exactly two hours. Never shorted time in any of my visits. Every visit to Annies has always ended well short of their two hour booking. What gives?Are the 120 minute a strict requirement? I mean shouldn't be the service and satisfaction the priority and a bunch of minutes more or less be irrelevant?

The 120 minutes are surely on the price list aside the price, but if I am all happy after 90 minutes I might not need these "forced" 30 minutes left.

Sunlover2
05-01-16, 19:15
I've visited many of the oil massage shops down by soi 22, every time I booked a two hour massage I'd walk out and look at my watch and see that the time lasted exactly two hours. Never shorted time in any of my visits. Every visit to Annies has always ended well short of their two hour booking. What gives?Yup it happend to me twice at Annies, and is frequently reported by others. One of several reasons I am not a fan.

SL.

Breadman
05-01-16, 19:20
Are the 120 minute a strict requirement? I mean shouldn't be the service and satisfaction the priority and a bunch of minutes more or less be irrelevant?

The 120 minutes are surely on the price list aside the price, but if I am all happy after 90 minutes I might not need these "forced" 30 minutes left.If it was 'only' 30 minutes it wouldn't be an issue, but its usually closer to 50 minutes. I used to visit massage joints in Canada years back, found out that booking 30 minutes vs an hour was a waste of money, you'd always be out the door in 30 minutes either way. Now if Annies offered an hour option at a lower price then nobody would ever bother with their 'two hour' service like they are offering now.

BionicMan
05-01-16, 20:43
If it was 'only' 30 minutes it wouldn't be an issue, but its usually closer to 50 minutes. I used to visit massage joints in Canada years back, found out that booking 30 minutes vs an hour was a waste of money, you'd always be out the door in 30 minutes either way. Now if Annies offered an hour option at a lower price then nobody would ever bother with their 'two hour' service like they are offering now.Annie's rate is on 2500, and for them an hour or 90' or two hours doesn't make much difference, I don't see a line up of waiting customers or lack of rooms. They aim to extract more money to cover overhead and the girl fee.

If they do the hour price (1500?) they would not increase the clime but the revenue will go down.

Same for the girls.

Then they might try to have you out of the room "quicker" and that most likely is down to the girl rather than the establishment. Not much saving for them, IMHO.

Wolvenvacht
05-02-16, 07:04
I've visited many of the oil massage shops down by soi 22, every time I booked a two hour massage I'd walk out and look at my watch and see that the time lasted exactly two hours. Never shorted time in any of my visits. Every visit to Annies has always ended well short of their two hour booking. What gives?I always understood it to be 120 minutes maximum during which the usual program was done: shower, bath, bodyslide + BBFS and first shot, shower, move to bed, FS and second shot, shower.

And indeed this takes usually about 90 minutes. Perhaps if you are young and virile, you can get a third shot in the last 30 minutes?

Sunlover2
05-02-16, 10:18
I always understood it to be 120 minutes maximum during which the usual program was done: shower, bath, bodyslide + BBFS and first shot, shower, move to bed, FS and second shot, shower.Not really; it depends on the shop and provider philosophy. One time I had two hour session scheduled at Snow White. When I started to clean up about 15 minutes early the lady said half kiddingly "you can't leave this early, they will think you didn't have a good time".

SL.

Wolvenvacht
05-02-16, 12:08
I always understood it to be 120 minutes maximum during which the usual program was done: shower, bath, bodyslide + BBFS and first shot, shower, move to bed, FS and second shot, shower.

And indeed this takes usually about 90 minutes. Perhaps if you are young and virile, you can get a third shot in the last 30 minutes?Sorry for my mistake: I meant of course "BBBJ" rather than "BBFS". I have never been offered a BBFS at Annies.

Franciscass
05-03-16, 02:55
Annie's rate is on 2500, and for them an hour or 90' or two hours doesn't make much difference, I don't see a line up of waiting customers or lack of rooms. They aim to extract more money to cover overhead and the girl fee.

If they do the hour price (1500?) they would not increase the clime but the revenue will go down.

Same for the girls.

Then they might try to have you out of the room "quicker" and that most likely is down to the girl rather than the establishment. Not much saving for them, IMHO.IMHO Management do have a responsibility in determining how long the girl stays with the customer. I have been in shops where the girl has asked me not to go early because the mamasan will be upset. Records are kept of starting and finishing times and staff who routinely show abbreviated sessions should be reprimanded. Obviously if the customer wants to leave early it's not a problem unless he's leaving because of poor service but where the girl routinely wraps up proceedings early that's either her wanting out of there reflecting a poor attitude or her wanting to get back to base as quick as possible in the hope of bagging another trick. Unless you end it early when you pay for a 2 hour session that is what you should get and spare time can be spent massaging chatting cuddling fondling touching whatever.

Achmmc
05-04-16, 09:13
Is Dr BJ Salon the same as Dr BJ's Nuru or is that two different places? Which one is owned by Annie's?

Also compared to Annie's where you get the full nuru, BBBJ, shot, massage, fuck, shot routine. Is that the same with Dr BJ's? Or is it just once they give the blowjob you go no FS?Agreed with BionicMan, and this is full service. Dk about 2 shots, but depending on the girl, I don't see why not, based on two separate visits. Nuru both times.

Syzygies
05-04-16, 09:30
Annie's rate is on 2500, and for them an hour or 90' or two hours doesn't make much difference, I don't see a line up of waiting customers or lack of rooms. They aim to extract more money to cover overhead and the girl fee.

If they do the hour price (1500?) they would not increase the clime but the revenue will go down.

Same for the girls.

Then they might try to have you out of the room "quicker" and that most likely is down to the girl rather than the establishment. Not much saving for them, IMHO.I agree. I see that they would be able to drop the rate much at all by offering a shorter time session. I have never encountered a rooms all full situation.

Management makes more than 50% of the total fee. I believe a girl makes around 1 K per session before tips. I am surprised girls want to work where management cut is so high but I guess some customers must be giving them okay Tips. Also to consider, many girls are older and not in their prime, so have to be happy to smaller money on a per fuck basis.

A guy who wants a 30 minute or 60 min session could be potentially jut as tiring as a customer like me who goes slow and takes the full extended time. I mean girl still has to give him BBBJ in the bath, and full sex service. Okay I know that some guys pop very quick but I think those types usually want multiple pops even if in a shorter time.

Would guys be happy with a one pop limit for reduced fee? Does a girl want to fuck a customer for even less than 1 K? I don't think so. Cheaper places exist.

Not to Bionic man:

If guys don't like the set-up or the fees, that is fine. Don't waste effort complaining. Vote with your feet. Just go somewhere else. Can get a fuck cheaper at Loli-tas, Snow White, Mango for example. Higher end bargirls and higher end Soapies are still working out more expensive than Annies per visit.

Guys should choose the place based on their price bracket and street walkers for bottom dollar (since their is no management cut there).

Syzygies
05-04-16, 10:08
Same franchise, one opposite the other in Soi 7/1, two different services, on principle.

Most likely Aye (one of the owners of Annie's, there is no a real Mrs Annie, maybe there was one back in time) has shares in the Dr BJ "holding".

Visit Annie's website and you can see the other venues and services. Best way.

Ultimately. It is all about P4 P under one form of the other.There was a real Matriarch Annie who is Aey's mother I believe. I have met her. She used to hang around at Annies a few years back. Any regular customer of the past, would have seen the old girl at times. I don't know if she is still alive. I hope so, as would like to chat to her again some time about far gone history.

I believe, from rumours only, that Aey is a major shareholder in the Dr. BJ places, and highly involved in the management of them, being actually present at Annies somewhat less these days.

I haven't seen Aey for a long time either but girls at Annies or Dr. BJ assure me she attends. I guess I turn up at the wrong time.

Red Kilt
05-04-16, 10:51
There was a real Matriarch Annie who is Aey's mother I believe. I have met her. She used to hang around at Annies a few years back. Any regular customer of the past, would have seen the old girl at times.
You are correct Syz.

Aey's mother, Annie, established the original business.

I used to frequent the establishment around 25 years ago when Aey was the very welcoming host who tended the bar and also watched over everything else as a chief mamasan even though she had a couple of others who were designated in that role. Her mother often dropped in to "shoot the breeze" and check out the place.

Annie was a lovely lady and I hope she is still going too.

Syzygies
05-04-16, 11:26
You are correct Syz.

Aey's mother, Annie, established the original business.

I used to frequent the establishment around 25 years ago when Aey was the very welcoming host who tended the bar and also watched over everything else as a chief mamasan even though she had a couple of others who were designated in that role. Her mother often dropped in to "shoot the breeze" and check out the place.

Annie was a lovely lady and I hope she is still going too.My first Soapy visit in Thailand, sort of accidentally while on a walk / exercise run to get away from a Farang Mrs. Most likely, was approx. 32 years ago, and I believe maybe in Soi 2 on right side of the Soi (definitely not Annies nor Darling). My memory suggests Tobacco Monopoly gate was end of same Soi (if memory is not faulty). Maybe it was before your time, but if you happen to know anything about it I would love to hear. It had a carpark in front I believe, or at least large paved area, and inside the fishbowl had tiers going up quite a few levels and a lot of girls. For sure Annie would know all about it. I think the site was redeveloped before 25 years back.

My modern guess was that the soapy may have been called something like the "Golden Gate", but have not been able to find anyone that actually knows anything much, and of course it was before Internet times where all things can be found.

My girl (32 years ago) was beautiful, naked, and very expert in Thai massage but could not speak a word of English and I had no Thai at the time. I had little cash with me, no credit cards (in exercise running gear), no idea if my downstairs fee included fucking (I guess not), and no idea what a fuck would cost in those days. Maybe 200 Baht? LOL. I also had no condoms and was very scared to pick up an STD. This was in times when Herpes was the big scare. Aids not yet heard of.

I wasn't new to hookers but had no experience with Thai girls. Being a tourist in Patong, Phuket with Farang Mrs. was an eye opener, to see all those old guys, with young hot Thai chicks on their arm, and wearing see through singlets showing pretty dark nipples and no bra underneath. No clue about LBs back then. Once I divorced Mrs. 8 years later, I was straight back to Thailand with some very basic Thai language skills already prepared in advance, and by this time quite a bit more experience with home country Thai girls in Thai restaurants or knock shops. However it seemed my first Soapy place had disappeared. I was not aware of Annies at all back then. That came through ISG, many years later. I used to frequent the Thermae Soapy and Thermae bar below it, before it moved to new location.

Jojosun
05-04-16, 13:56
Aey's mother, Annie, established the original business.

I used to frequent the establishment around 25 years ago when Aey was the very welcoming host who tended the bar and also watched over everything else as a chief mamasan even though she had a couple of others who were designated in that role. Her mother often dropped in to "shoot the breeze" and check out the place.

Annie was a lovely lady and I hope she is still going too.I first landed in LOS in 1989 . Didn't have a clue about the place or BKK as I was more of a financially embarrassed student wanting to discover the world as cheaply as possible.

Got hold of a copy of BKK times newspaper (from memory) and there was an ad for Annie's place. Made my way there and what an eye opener. .

The Fish bowl had nearly 40, many pretty girls to choose from. Said to myself, fuck my budget for the day, chose 2 girls. Back in the room I had my first Sandwich massage between the 2 girls.

Loved it. Can't remember how much I paid at the time.

Anyone here remember Annie's prices in those years very late 80's.

Walking around and I discovered the disco at Grace hotel. A young pretty Thai girl hit on me and she came back to my hotel (Park Hotel on Soi 7). OMFG she was so tight. In the morning had to wake her up, gave her 800 and she was over the moon. Wanted to hang around with for the rest of the day but I had an lovely Aussie backpacker waiting for me.

JamesPhony
05-04-16, 14:39
Hi there,

Is there anyone who can review about service of this girls. NO 4, 8, 19, 28, 35 and 44.

Jojosun
05-04-16, 16:06
I first landed in LOS in 1989 . Didn't have a clue about the place or BKK as I was more of a financially embarrassed student wanting to discover the world as cheaply as possible.

Got hold of a copy of BKK times newspaper (from memory) and there was an ad for Annie's place. Made my way there and what an eye opener..Correction. Bangkok Times newspaper, not BKK Times.

Jojosun
05-04-16, 23:40
Correction. Bangkok Times newspaper, not BKK Times.Apologies again. I meant Bangkok Post.

Syzygies
05-05-16, 06:09
Hi there,

Is there anyone who can review about service of this girls. NO 4, 8, 19, 28, 35 and 44.I posted a report on No. 4 Layla (or Leela) about a year ago maybe. Search and you might find it. Slim pretty girl. I liked her.

Lion55
05-27-16, 02:43
Anyone know what happened to #20? She has been one of my regulars whenever I visit Bangkok but I see she is no longer listed on the Annie's website.

NopoProwler
05-28-16, 08:33
Anyone know what happened to #20? She has been one of my regulars whenever I visit Bangkok but I see she is no longer listed on the Annie's website.I emailed them about her a while ago. They said she's on a long booking.

Lion55
05-29-16, 16:27
I emailed them about her a while ago. They said she's on a long booking.Thanks! I sent an email as well but didn't get a reply. I saw her a couple of months ago but haven't been back to Bangkok since. Hopefully she'll be back working by re time of my next visit.

Greg Howe
06-09-16, 16:26
I took number 28 yesterday. Kind of rushed service. They offer up to 2 hours but I was out in 60-70 minutes. The soapy was short, the bath was even shorter. A min into the in bath BBBJ she asked if I came. Sweetheart you wouldn't be asking if I did. Then we dried up, went to the bed, We fucked for 20-25 min and that was it. Also the room had such a strong mildew smell. I thought I saw mold on the wall too. I'll likely go back, but it's more out of laziness than anything else. I'm literally right across the street.I went with her about two and a half months ago and had a good time. Strange how your experience was so different from mine. I can't recall the details now but I do remember noting down that I would consider repeating.

Greg Howe
06-09-16, 16:34
Went to Annie's today. My first time. There were about 20 girls in the fishbowl. I chose 36 who I thought was the most attractive. She is quite pretty and has a nice body (large fake tits). It would have been a fun session but for her attitude. Her favorite word is "no". No to feeling her tits, no to massaging her, no to FIV, no to deep-throat, no to CIM. It was obvious she was not having fun. Very mechanical. I came from her mediocre BJ / HJ, then got dressed and left. 2500 B for 25 min. I would avoid her.She's been there for a long time. The first time I went with her was at the end of 2012. I had a great time with her then. I repeated a little more than a year later and the difference was night and day. To the point that I've avoided her since, but no where near the experience Steven describes. Just very mediocre and unenthusiastic. It's unfortunate because I find her to be one of the most attractive looking girls I've seen in 10 years of frequenting the place.

Pinche Gringo
06-10-16, 04:55
I would have let the manager or even Annie know, bad reviews is never good for business.


She's been there for a long time. The first time I went with her was at the end of 2012. I had a great time with her then. I repeated a little more than a year later and the difference was night and day. To the point that I've avoided her since, but no where near the experience Steven describes. Just very mediocre and unenthusiastic. It's unfortunate because I find her to be one of the most attractive looking girls I've seen in 10 years of frequenting the place.

Lion55
06-13-16, 13:41
I took #16 out for the night this past weekend. She isn't the best looker at Annie's but she is a lot of fun. She has a bit of a quirky personality but offers full GFE service. Her English skills are adequate and she is much more of a coversationalist than your typical massage lady.

Member #4591
06-15-16, 16:35
Anyone know what happened to #20? She has been one of my regulars whenever I visit Bangkok but I see she is no longer listed on the Annie's website.Mate, she's gone! There are plenty of posts regarding her whereabouts.

Lion55
06-16-16, 13:53
Mate, she's gone! There are plenty of posts regarding her whereabouts.Thanks for the info. Can you tell me which forum has the info about her whereabouts. No posts that I can find on the Annie's forum.

Member #4591
06-16-16, 14:54
Thanks for the info. Can you tell me which forum has the info about her whereabouts. No posts that I can find on the Annie's forum.I'm sure you did not look. The posts are under her name, not #20. It clearly says she left the business due to unsafe sex practices. I'll let you speculate on what that means.

BionicMan
06-17-16, 05:25
I took #16 out for the night this past weekend. She isn't the best looker at Annie's but she is a lot of fun. She has a bit of a quirky personality but offers full GFE service. Her English skills are adequate and she is much more of a coversationalist than your typical massage lady.Annies description on #16 mentions she serves couples.

I understand you went solo but did you get any hint on her about that?

Planning to go there with my GG and #16 was one recommended by email from annies.

Strangely enough they did not offer for a 3-some the 2-3 tomboys they have.

Lion55
06-17-16, 19:44
Annies description on #16 mentions she serves couples.

I understand you went solo but did you get any hint on her about that?

Planning to go there with my GG and #16 was one recommended by email from annies.

Strangely enough they did not offer for a 3-some the 2-3 tomboys they have.Yes, she is definitely up for threesomes. I did a threesome with her and #20 (who is no longer at Annie's) back in January. A lot of fun.

Lion55
06-18-16, 10:06
I'm sure you did not look. The posts are under her name, not #20. It clearly says she left the business due to unsafe sex practices. I'll let you speculate on what that means.I guess I must be dense as I most certainly DID read the Annie's thread going back to January, which was the last time I saw her. I thought her name was Kai but I don't find any references to that name other than my own post from January. If not too much to ask could you give me another hint on where to find the posts about her whereabouts.

Supmam
06-18-16, 11:11
She was the first hooker I had in Bangkok. At the time she was magical (this is about 2011) with a tight body and zany humour and good service. My post is somewhere on the board. I've moved on to more fun places but I'm always surprised to see her still going strong 5 years later!


Yes, she is definitely up for threesomes. I did a threesome with her and #20 (who is no longer at Annie's) back in January. A lot of fun.

Syzygies
06-19-16, 13:47
She's been there for a long time. The first time I went with her was at the end of 2012. I had a great time with her then. I repeated a little more than a year later and the difference was night and day. To the point that I've avoided her since, but no where near the experience Steven describes. Just very mediocre and unenthusiastic. It's unfortunate because I find her to be one of the most attractive looking girls I've seen in 10 years of frequenting the place.I also had a good time with "Air" 36 many years ago, before her tits were done. However wasn't so good as to draw me back for her regularly at the time. I probably had better regulars. I did visit number 24 plenty of times. Generally seems to be agreed that she 36 was not so much fun in the modern day, based on the recent reports being mostly negative. Maybe she has become jaded with so many psycho customers, or customers wanting far more than she would give, be it bareback, anal, fingers deep in pussy, or other things I can't even imagine. I do hear that Annies gets a lot of "bad" customers, so its a tough job to look after them. Some girls cope well and some do not. However it's not good if girl develops a negative attitude to all customers, especially if she once gave the same guy good service.

These days I like number 14 whose looks remind me of a rather shorter Halle Berry, always a fun "tomboy" girl for me, with a very hot natural body. I also liked number 88 and skinny number 4. I only ever tried just one girl that gave me a really crap session, so my hit rate has been excellent. Not sure was just luck or what. Maybe its because I am such a pleasant understanding customer. LOL

Whoops I see number 36 has now changed number on the web site, perhaps due to bad recent publicity. Is it the girl with straw coloured hat, or did the first poster refer to some new number 36? I am sure Greg would mean the same one as me, since he quoted 2012.

I have no clue about No. 16 masked in her picture. Generally considered good though with no bad reports I think.

I don't like Annies room air Con, but I tolerate it purely to see girls I like. Its only the specific girls that matter to me, and where to find them. Care little about the actual venue or management. I have done take out to be more comfortable at times, but its not that cost effective.

Greg Howe
06-26-16, 15:33
Whoops I see number 36 has now changed number on the web site, perhaps due to bad recent publicity. Is it the girl with straw coloured hat, or did the first poster refer to some new number 36? I am sure Greg would mean the same one as me, since he quoted 2012.Yes, I'm referring to the one that has changed to number 69.

BionicMan
06-30-16, 18:35
Is anyone else facing difficulties in accessing their page. Says "under construction".

Hope it is for a good improvement and staff gallery update (and fresher pictures as some of them are there to support the story "late 20's" pity some of them risk to be in late 30's by now. (Not necessarily a negative side, just less crystal clear).

Tobyg
07-01-16, 06:57
Is anyone else facing difficulties in accessing their page. Says "under construction".

Hope it is for a good improvement and staff gallery update (and fresher pictures as some of them are there to support the story "late 20's" pity some of them risk to be in late 30's by now. (Not necessarily a negative side, just less crystal clear).Webpages for Annies, BJ Salon and BJ Nuru are back up after a couple of days of being offline but staff pictures still "Under Construction". BJ Salon Facebook pages still down.

BionicMan
07-01-16, 19:34
Webpages for Annies, BJ Salon and BJ Nuru are back up after a couple of days of being offline but staff pictures still "Under Construction". BJ Salon Facebook pages still down.Thanks for the Intel. Thought it was my issue.

BionicMan
07-08-16, 03:31
Annies webpage is back in action.

Some new girls (at least not listed before) in the staff section, some number re-shuffles, usual long descriptions of girls, but not revealing too much.

No more prices mentioned as "internet rules". (FAQ need an update as, on price, say to refer to the price section: endless loop.

Lion55
07-16-16, 17:38
Some new girls (at least not listed before) in the staff section, some number re-shuffles, usual long descriptions of girls, but not revealing too much.Looks like a number of favorites are no longer there. Wacky #16 and spinner #44, both longtime Annie's girls. Anyone know what happened?

BionicMan
07-16-16, 18:02
Looks like a number of favorites are no longer there. Wacky #16 and spinner #44, both longtime Annie's girls. Anyone know what happened?Might Just refreshed The gallery with some new ones or some not featured before, or have just left.

Tobyg
07-17-16, 01:05
Looks like a number of favorites are no longer there. Wacky #16 and spinner #44, both longtime Annie's girls. Anyone know what happened?44's still listed. It appears that 16 is gone unfortunately.

Lion55
07-17-16, 01:54
44's still listed. It appears that 16 is gone unfortunately.Nope. I think the #44 now on the website is a different girl. Sgyzies can probably confirm.

SirWilliam4
07-17-16, 04:37
Nope. I think the #44 now on the website is a different girl. Sgyzies can probably confirm.Ye.

Yes, that is a completely different number 44 than the one I was with about two years ago. That #44 was the one with the fluffy bra in her photos and virtually no boobs once she took it off. Lackluster performance at best. Be happy you have new 44. Got to be an improvement.

SW4.

Tobyg
07-19-16, 10:35
Ye.

Yes, that is a completely different number 44 than the one I was with about two years ago. That #44 was the one with the fluffy bra in her photos and virtually no boobs once she took it off. Lackluster performance at best. Be happy you have new 44. Got to be an improvement.

SW4.The old 44 left early last year and has more recently been working at Dr BJ's. The new one has been there since not long after the other left.

BionicMan
07-21-16, 16:36
With the closure of the Dr BJ operations in Soi 7, all referrals, links, connections of Annies Soap Massage with DR BJ have been removed from their webpage.

Amen to Dr BJ.

Member #4591
07-21-16, 16:52
With the closure of the Dr BJ operations in Soi 7, all referrals, links, connections of Annies Soap Massage with DR BJ have been removed from their webpage.

Amen to Dr BJ.But Soi 7/1 is in business now. I suspect their name is what was causing the problems. It seems to have now be sorted.

BionicMan
07-22-16, 17:04
But Soi 7/1 is in business now. I suspect their name is what was causing the problems. It seems to have now be sorted.They probably just parted way. Officially.

Annies in their good old way, relatively low profile set as a BKK icon.

The "new" Soi 7/1 establishments with a new less loud profile, flying under the radar.

Wondering what the new name will be and how the set up will look.

Maybe somebody on the ground has some Intel.

Member #4591
07-23-16, 09:10
With the closure of the Dr BJ operations in Soi 7, all referrals, links, connections of Annies Soap Massage with DR BJ have been removed from their webpage.

Amen to Dr BJ.That's makes the most since because it was there name that caused the legal issues.

Franciscass
07-23-16, 13:20
That's makes the most since because it was there name that caused the legal issues.Makes sense. The OTT signage was pretty much in your face. Worked for a while I guess. Have to imagine the new operation despite claims to the contrary will be owned by the same crew and the business model and staffing will be pretty much as before. As they say same s**t different pile.

Syzygies
08-16-16, 16:30
They probably just parted way. Officially.

Annies in their good old way, relatively low profile set as a BKK icon.

The "new" Soi 7/1 establishments with a new less loud profile, flying under the radar.

Wondering what the new name will be and how the set up will look.

Maybe somebody on the ground has some Intel.The new name for Dr BJ is the "Wood Bar". The sister bar across the road is the "Chrome Bar". Inside everything is normal most likely although I have not checked out all the rooms. LOL.

The owner (s) of Annies is / are a significant shareholder of these other places and heavily involved in the management, is my info (strong rumour rather than fact), so I don't see any meaning or likelihood to a "divorce" or separation. Girls have known to switch back and forward between establishments. E. g. No. 14 of Annies used to work maybe a day per week at the Nuru. Not currently perhaps. Could be some other girl's turn to help out elsewhere.

The Dr. BJ website is still going strong.

NemanLion
08-23-16, 20:19
Was here on Sunday as elaborated in my report in main section.

No27 aka Tah. Great service in both massage and sex. No complaints.

Lion55
08-27-16, 11:42
Does anyone know whether Care (formerly #16 at Annie's) has surfaced somewhere else. She left Annie's about two months ago.

BionicMan
08-27-16, 23:07
The new name for Dr BJ is the "Wood Bar". The sister bar across the road is the "Chrome Bar". Inside everything is normal most likely although I have not checked out all the rooms. LOL.

The owner (s) of Annies is / are a significant shareholder of these other places and heavily involved in the management, is my info (strong rumour rather than fact), so I don't see any meaning or likelihood to a "divorce" or separation. Girls have known to switch back and forward between establishments. E. g. No. 14 of Annies used to work maybe a day per week at the Nuru. Not currently perhaps. Could be some other girl's turn to help out elsewhere.

The Dr. BJ website is still going strong.It is a fact you don't see any referral to dr BJ anymore on annies web page.

Ownership or shareholding is something, commercial partnership might be something else.

Dr. BJ website is still active but it might be "old" as the referrals and pictures are still under the old name.

Lion55
08-27-16, 23:28
Got this yesterday.

Dear past or present customers.

This is an email not directed to one person but many, so to all our clients we hope this will be useful information for you. This email will cover 2 things that I will try to make a brief as I can:

1 Annie's and the way it will work in the present situation with Bangkok nightlife in our industry.

2 Dr BJ's.

Annie's.

As above nightlife in Bangkok has gone through 'some interesting times in the last 4 to 5 weeks and we see many more to come. This has not effected Annie's and as far we have been told, will not effect us. Mainly due to us having the full and required licenses to operate in this area. We have received over 2000 emails in the last 3 weeks asking us "is Bangkok nightlife ok?" or, "can we visit Sukhumvit and have a good time?" etc etc and I have paraphrased these of course. My answer to those and also to anyone is, Annie's as a business will not give info which may relate to its competitors. All Annie's as a business will do is explain, that we are fully operational and since we opened over 40 years ago, has never ever had 1 day closed. We are in a strong position and will continue to be. As we have been in the center of this industry for so long, we are fully aware of things that are happening and from the start of the changes and for what we have been told will happen in the future, Annie's will be unaffected. As for other businesses, we can not and will not comment unless we feel it will befit us.

It is our intent from now, to at least once every couple of weeks send out info in regards to nightlife in Bangkok from our point of view, to make sure all are fully informed and also add extra info about us, like changes, new staff, leaving popular staff etc. If you do not wish to receive further emails from us, please use the opt out at the bottom of this email and you will be removed.

Dr BJ's.

The official word from the new majority share holders is, and I cut and paste this from one of there websites:

"As they say in Thailand, "Same Same but different". This means as an example, same location, same customer satisfaction but Refurbished, Refreshed an Reinvented".

Both their shops are fully refurbished, amazingly clean, new, much more Hi-So and are a real breath of fresh air to that soi. Staff numbers as of the 1st August will be at the level it was before, if not more. They have new staff from the new major shareholders other businesses as well as some staying staff, mainly the most popular ones. I suggest visiting, "after you have of course been to us " and check them out. They have made the shops more approachable, less in your face and most important for that style business IMOP, they now have a full outside bar and relaxing area that you can buy drinks for you and the staff and get to know them.

These are the logos you will see outsdie the new look places.

To make sure all is understood, Annie's as a business has never been the owner or even part owner or even a share holder of Dr BJ's on soi 7/1. Annie herself would not want this. I can tell you that there has been a connection at some point, mainly friends and us helping them where we can and we would do this for any other business that we feel is not a competitor and that we can help and that also can help us in some ways. There have been some reports on forums, blogs and various places for information on nightlife in Bangkok that has said "Dr BJ's is closed". This is not the case, "as such". The Brand Dr BJ's is now longer in operation and there has been a change in the majority share ownership. There have been some changes in the way night life works in Bangkok and Dr BJ's has had to alter the way it operates and the way its business administration also operates, due to these changes. This has effected many other businesses in Bangkok and in the near future many many more. From the customers point of view all that will seem different is the odd few new staff, new cleaner soundings and a nice outside seating area.

Have a great time in Bangkok.

The Aey Team.

Address.

Floor 2 Rajar Hotel Complex.

Sukhumvit Soi 2.

Lumpini.

Klong Toei.

Bangkok.

10110.

Franciscass
08-28-16, 11:19
Got this yesterday.

To make sure all is understood, Annie's as a business has never been the owner or even part owner or even a share holder of Dr BJ's on soi 7/1. Annie herself would not want this. I can tell you that there has been a connection at some point, mainly friends and us helping them where we can and we would do this for any other business that we feel is not a competitor and that we can help and that also can help us in some ways. There have been some reports on forums, blogs and various places for information on nightlife in Bangkok that has said "Dr BJ's is closed". This is not the case, "as such". The Brand Dr BJ's is now longer in operation and there has been a change in the majority share ownership. There have been some changes in the way night life works in Bangkok and Dr BJ's has had to alter the way it operates and the way its business administration also operates, due to these changes. This has effected many other businesses in Bangkok and in the near future many many more..Some comments on this communication from The Aye Team. Obviously a lot of time was spent on getting it just right. It shows, it is well written, strikes the right tone and as a marketing hook will no doubt be successful in enticing unsuspecting newbies. The only change I would make would be to change the sign off from the Aye Team to the Brothers Grimm. Those of us who live here are familiar with how this outfit works. The shilling from members cozy with the owners. Watch for the usual response from some of them. The nonsense excuse of explaining raids as invitations to the police to test the girls for drugs. The claim there is no business connection when they interchange staff on a regular basis and spend time in each other's shops. No there is no connection, we just love helping each other. I mean who wrote this condescending utter insult to our collective intelligence.

Syzygies
08-28-16, 20:10
The claim there is no business connection when they interchange staff on a regular basis and spend time in each other's shops. No there is no connection, we just love helping each other. I mean who wrote this condescending utter insult to our collective intelligence.For once I could agree with part of what you wrote. LOL.

Lion55 seemed to word it too carefully at times, as though trying to be only technically correct, and fancy dragging the original Annie into the topic. Can't see any point to that.
If "Annies as a business" did not have shares in Dr. BJ, then surely shareholders in Annies, could have. He avoided putting it this way on purpose, one could assume.

I was told the famous Scot was seen working in Annies the other day. I did not see it for myself, so it's only a rumour.

If there is a new majority shareholder of the Dr. BJ's businesses, I wonder what was the cause of that, well just for 5 seconds. I don't really care.
Lion55 could have made his statement much simpler just to say that Dr.BJ's has a new name and a new majority Shareholder.

Doesn't make much difference unless the levels of affiliation have been diluted (which is not totally obvious just yet).

I found this website for Chrome Bar:
http://bestbarbangkok.club/

It's rather basic. I did not find same for Wood Bar. Are these places really to be called "bars"? Places you go to drink?
I think Dr BJ sites are still there.

"Fully refurbished"? I am not so sure about that. I did not notice massive differences in the rooms I was in, in the Wood Bar , which was not BJ rooms.

Syzygies
08-28-16, 21:11
First time I went to Dr BJ, Aey was there. She appeared to be the manager on that occasion, but have not seen her in that capacity since. Other persons have been the manager on various days. Aey was reported to attend frequently all the shops. Some girls seemed to refer to Aey as the "big boss". I assumed Aey must have been a significant Shareholder. Just my guess about what made sense rather than knowing detailed facts.

Some things may have changed, but "same same" as before, from a customer point of view. I don't see dramatic changes in quality of girls in the line up. Some new faces.

Franciscass
08-29-16, 05:28
For once I could agree with part of what you wrote. LOL.

Lion55 seemed to word it too carefully at times, as though trying to be only technically correct, and fancy dragging the original Annie into the topic. Can't see any point to that.
If "Annies as a business" did not have shares in Dr. BJ, then surely shareholders in Annies, could have. He avoided putting it this way on purpose, one could assume.

I was told the famous Scot was seen working in Annies the other day. I did not see it for myself, so it's only a rumour.

If there is a new majority shareholder of the Dr. BJ's businesses, I wonder what was the cause of that, well just for 5 seconds. I don't really care.
Lion55 could have made his statement much simpler just to say that Dr.BJ's has a new name and a new majority Shareholder..While it was originally an email to their mailing list it was obviously written in the belief that somebody would post it on ISG. Lion55 took the bait and obliged. The folksy tone telling us they are nice people helping each other in a long established family business trying to make a living in difficult circumstances is so patronizing it makes you want to find the vomit bucket. I have no issue with P4P business's, hell I help to keep them going but please whoever is running the PR for this outfit (could it be the wily scot) spare us the bullshit. We are not as gullible as you think.

Syzygies
08-30-16, 08:06
While it was originally an email to their mailing list it was obviously written in the belief that somebody would post it on ISG. Lion55 took the bait and obliged. Sorry to Lion55. I failed to recall that Lion55 did not write it himself.

The piece is a little more understandable if sent to "fans" of Annies, as a sort of propaganda thing, to be somehow reassuring. On ISG we don't need reassuring.

I don't know how anyone can write the original email, apparently on behave of Annies, and the Wood Bar, and the Chrome bar, and the Aey team, and yet suggest that the affiliation has been exaggerated.

I don't really care, I have interest only in selected girls, who I have not seen lately.

Lion55
09-01-16, 02:34
Sorry to Lion55. I failed to recall that Lion55 did not write it himself.

The piece is a little more understandable if sent to "fans" of Annies, as a sort of propaganda thing, to be somehow reassuring. On ISG we don't need reassuring.

I don't know how anyone can write the original email, apparently on behave of Annies, and the Wood Bar, and the Chrome bar, and the Aey team, and yet suggest that the affiliation has been exaggerated.

I don't really care, I have interest only in selected girls, who I have not seen lately.I don't have the knowledge or experience to opine as to the veracity of the claims in the email re the lack of any cross ownership. I simply thought readers on this forum might find it interesting to see what Annie's ownership had sent out. I benefit a lot from the info provided by the veterans on this forum and try to contribute myself when I can.

Franciscass
09-02-16, 05:51
I don't have the knowledge or experience to opine as to the veracity of the claims in the email re the lack of any cross ownership. I simply thought readers on this forum might find it interesting to see what Annie's ownership had sent out. I benefit a lot from the info provided by the veterans on this forum and try to contribute myself when I can.Your posting of their email Lion55 was no doubt well intention. This outfit are masters at manipulating the various internet platforms to market their business. If only they were as good at providing decent looking providers in comfortable surroundings they wouldn't need the bullshit.

BionicMan
09-02-16, 20:19
First time I went to Dr BJ, Aey was there. She appeared to be the manager on that occasion, but have not seen her in that capacity since. Other persons have been the manager on various days. Aey was reported to attend frequently all the shops. Some girls seemed to refer to Aey as the "big boss". I assumed Aey must have been a significant Shareholder. Just my guess about what made sense rather than knowing detailed facts.

Some things may have changed, but "same same" as before, from a customer point of view. I don't see dramatic changes in quality of girls in the line up. Some new faces.This POV is quite likely to be the case.

Quite strange aye is not showing up on this four as she did 4/5 years ago. She was giving good infos, clearly saying she was in the management of the soapie, so anyone could judge whether she was doing PR or good information.

Syzygies
09-06-16, 14:53
This POV is quite likely to be the case.

Quite strange aye is not showing up on this four as she did 4/5 years ago. She was giving good infos, clearly saying she was in the management of the soapie, so anyone could judge whether she was doing PR or good information.She was more than just management at Annies. "Annie" was introduced to me as Aey's mother, I believe. Girls use the "owner" word loosely, but obviously Shareholdings may not be straight forward. There is the husband, etc. Their business has done very well I presume.

There are a lot of staff there to be paid who are not the fishbowl girls. I don't understand why they have so many, but this is Thailand. Far too many Thai boys hanging around Dr. BJ Nuru (I mean chrome bar) or sleeping there for my liking on previous visits. They can send drinks to the room but are probably sponging off their "girlfriends" money as well.

Sunlover2
09-06-16, 21:40
Quite strange aye is not showing up on this four as she did 4/5 years ago. She was giving good infos, clearly saying she was in the management of the soapie, so anyone could judge whether she was doing PR or good information.It was not aye on this message board. She does not read or write english well enough. It was always someone on "the aye team" as in an ex-pat posting for her. See the signature in the communication posted by Lion55 below.

Funny that punters from around the world e-mail Annie's confessing their wish list, hidden desires and special requests thinking they are communicating to the lady herself. Reality is it is some elderly farang 'helper' getting his jollies reading and responding to all of that. They would sit all day at the bar area upstairs in front of their laptop hard to miss. LOL LOL LOL.

SL.

Red Kilt
09-06-16, 23:59
She was more than just management at Annies. "Annie" was introduced to me as Aey's mother, I believe. Girls use the "owner" word loosely, but obviously Shareholdings may not be straight forward. There is the husband, etc. I visited Annies many times between 1990 and 1996 because of my work in SE Asia and always passed through Bkk.

Aey was always working at the bar.

Comments about her English being poor are simply wrong. She was very articulate and I recall sitting there for extended periods chatting to her. She was the boss and she ran a very smart and efficient operation at that time.

Her mother is the original Annie. I met her on one of my visits when she dropped in to visit. She was quite elderly then but alert and a lovely person, so add on another 20 or so years and she would be extremely old now IF she is still alive. I have not been back to Annies since 2003 and Aey was not there when I dropped in. I can assume from the comments here over the past year or so that the management has shifted because the operation seems to have changed a lot (if descriptions of experiences are accurate).

Guys making comments here that are speculative are a waste of time. If you don't know the details, please don't spout opinion as though they are facts.

Franciscass
09-07-16, 02:28
Guys making comments here that are speculative are a waste of time. If you don't know the details, please don't spout opinion as though they are facts.Back in the day when the Scot and I were going toe to toe I became familiar with his writing style. OK, not a fact just an opinion, I would suggest the email in question has all the hallmarks of his misleading brand of hype.

Yin Yang
09-08-16, 04:56
Back to actual and factual reports: Had a session with #14 recently and left satisfied. She is much cuter than the pictures on the Annie's website. The short hair fits her face perfectly. For a better impression, also of other girls, check Annie's twitter account. The session was the Annie's routine, body slide then bath then to the (hard) bed. I avoided the first shot with BBBJ in the bath this time, which was a good idea because more time for FS later. Second shot she did not want to screw again so ended with HJ. Still good performance overall and nice GFE attitude. Would visit again, if I only had enough time for that.

Lion55
09-18-16, 20:13
Does anyone know whether Care (formerly #16 at Annie's) has surfaced somewhere else. She left Annie's about two months ago.Anyone have any information on Care's whereabouts?

Dr BJ
10-10-16, 10:24
Had one of my top 3 experiences at Annie's on Saturday evening. As the title suggests the lady was number 1. The body type being exactly what I like, she is one of those type of people who is very quiet and almost never smiles. Happily my fears were very quickly dispelled. She was very open and relaxed which is unusual for the first encounter. She has worked at Annie's for around 6 months and must be a fast learner because without exaggeration this ranks as one of my top 3 experiences here. My next few bookings will be solely focused on number 1 because in my experience it is highly likely that she will meet a customer with more money than sense. One of those type of guys who have visited Bangkok 2-3 times, mid to late 30's, possibly divorced and drops off his brain in that perspex box at the airport. The point here is time is of the essence so if anyone wants to sample the many delights she possesses don't hang about as I doubt she will be here in 12 months time or shorter. She may return when the "romance" goes south but who knows. I would now like to invite the usual detractors to step forward and start their customary sniping. No need to name names you all know who they are, the "funnel web spider types" who lurk waiting to spread negativity and never post anything of any constructive use to anyone. If you want to listen to these guys and allow them to rob you of a great experience then be my guest. So to summarize.

Face: 7/10.

Body: 9.5/10 Agreed this is highly subjective but this is my opinion.

Boobs 8.5/10 Small but natural and I will take small over silicone all day long.

Ass: 10/10 Again opinions will vary.

Kissing: 7/10 whilst willing and enthusiastic Thai girls just don't seem to be good kissers.

DFK: Yes.

BJ: 9/10 No idea how she can do this at her age.

Attitude: 10/10 In all honesty I am unable to see any area she could improve on.

Clock watcher: Never.

Starfish rating: 0/10 This was one of the highlights of the whole thing. Any position was on the menu.

Body slide: Not applicable, picked one of the VIP rooms.

Oil massage: Average for one of these girls but she performed with enthusiasm which is important.

A+: Unlikely for one so young and in any case didn't ask as it's not my thing.

CIM: Yes.

Height: around 5 foot.

Weight 40 kg.

WIR: Already booked for my next visit.

I hope this information is of use to the readers and for anyone who is interested I recommend making an advanced booking as the chances of walking in and picking her are rather slim, she is quickly building up a sizable fan base.

Regards,

BJ

Dr BJ
10-25-16, 12:56
Originally posted by Francisass as a response to my post.

"You have to admit the doc writes well. He obviously spent a lot of time getting this one just right. I don't know the girl in question and she may give a decent session but his over the top account is simply a marketing pitch to get you to Annie's. He's in business with the owners and I can only surmise that business must be really slow if they have to call on him once again to hype it up. My advise Doc, to make your posts remotely credible try toning them down just a tad. I know you were expecting this and I'm also expecting your well known surrogates to weigh in".

Considering you are an intelligent individual I can't believe you fell for the so obvious trap I put into my post. Was it that you're spite got the better of you concerning anything to do with everything I post or any business I post about or have connection to? Surmising is akin to assumption or guess work and very rarely accurate. I welcome advise from almost anyone with the exception of yourself of course, especially where posting on forums is concerned based on the evidence that I cannot recall a single constructive field report that you have posted. Of course I knew you couldn't resist the temptation to criticize anything I post about despite admitting yourself you know nothing about the lady in the post. I think the correct term is prejudice. If these kinds of posts help you to get through your day then allow me to give you some advise, try getting out more.

Regards,

BJ

Traveler1234
10-27-16, 14:28
As expected the Doc's well known surrogates will always attempt to shoot the messenger. This particular poster is well known for his continued promotion of Annies and the Soi 7/1 shops. I've got no dog in this fight but I've known S for almost a decade and he isn't a surrogate to anyone. Those who know his earlier avatar are familiar with his google maps that identified almost every soapie and oilie in town.

Annies is a shell of it's original self. Aey hasn't been managing for years and Dr. BJ seldom posts.

Peace!

Franciscass
10-27-16, 16:50
I've got no dog in this fight but I've known S for almost a decade and he isn't a surrogate to anyone. Those who know his earlier avatar are familiar with his google maps that identified almost every soapie and oilie in town.

Annies is a shell of it's original self. Aey hasn't been managing for years and Dr. BJ seldom posts.

Peace!I have no real issue with S. Because I find his posts repetitive and narcissistic I generally ignore them. That changes when he starts posting personalized nasty stuff about me. If he minds his own business we are fine.

Syzygies
10-28-16, 11:13
I have no real issue with S. Because I find his posts repetitive and narcissistic I generally ignore them. That changes when he starts posting personalized nasty stuff about me. If he minds his own business we are fine.Your intention is to destroy this thread, is that right? Or merely every poster that is too positive in your view? You can only only tolerate those that dump shit on Annies, right? Is this sane behavior? I can't see it.

Post your own experiences for a change. I assume you don't have Annies experiences any more, so post in another thread. Sure I can't make you do anything. I just suggest what makes useful contributions rather than troll like contributions.

Dan7373
11-07-16, 13:10
Had one of my top 3 experiences at Annie's on Saturday evening. As the title suggests the lady was number 1.

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Starfish rating: 0/10 This was one of the highlights of the whole thing. Any position was on the menu.
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Yes, any lady who is good with positions is bound to be popular among guys.

Because you can always think of some new sex-position that you haven't yet had her in. It's a good reason for a guy to come back and nail the lady again. And there are literally well over 100 possible sex-positions that you can look up on the internet.

Some of my most memorable experiences have been with ladies who got me to do them in unusual sex-positions. This kind of thing makes your experience different and unique. Which motivates you to come back and nail the lady again with your dick.

It's like you have a new experience to enjoy. And you aren't truly satisfied, until you've nailed the lady several times in that new for you sex-position. And once you are satisfied, then it's time to experiment and explore, until you find another good sex-position to nail her.

I've checked out this lady at http://www.anniesbangkok.com/staff.html website. And just by looking at her, I probably would not have gone for her. But now that I know she is good with positions, I'd say she is a lady to see even for me.

BrpSum
11-08-16, 12:14
Having read an earlier review of #1, I figured I'd give her a try. It's been a few years since I last visited.

What a mistake.

Her service was so lackluster, no BJ and went straight for cowgirl. I didn't even bother to finish. I lost interest after 30 minutes.

She belongs to the golden pussy club, and I've had my fair share of girls like that.

I guess YMMV applies here, but it didn't work for me.

Would not repeat and would not return to Annie's. Way too many options.

Franciscass
11-09-16, 18:28
Having read an earlier review of #1, I figured I'd give her a try. It's been a few years since I last visited.

What a mistake.

Her service was so lackluster, no BJ and went straight for cowgirl. I didn't even bother to finish. I lost interest after 30 minutes.

She belongs to the golden pussy club, and I've had my fair share of girls like that.

I guess YMMV applies here, but it didn't work for me.

Would not repeat and would not return to Annie's. Way too many options.I hate to point out the obvious but its really unfair that this member forked out I assume 2500 Baht for a lousy experience based on an over the top post from somebody with a business relationship with the owners of this establishment.

Keiser
11-12-16, 21:54
What's the current price-tag? Still 2500? I read somewhere charging 3000 (honestly, can not remember where).

HappyButLookin
11-12-16, 23:05
I've been to Annies twice. The first time I went was spring 2013 and I had an amazing session. 3 pops and she wanted to for for one more. It was everything a soapy should be.

I went again about 18 months later and it was crap. Could be just an off night for the lady in question, but the reviews at the time had nothing good to say.

Now, who knows, maybe things have gotten better but there are better places to go so.

Fast Eddie 48
11-12-16, 23:44
What's the current price-tag? Still 2500? I read somewhere charging 3000 (honestly, can not remember where).To Keiser.

It is still 2500 bht for full service but the girl want a 500 bht tip even you get lousy service give this place a pass.

Fast Eddie 48.

Franciscass
11-13-16, 02:15
What's the current price-tag? Still 2500? I read somewhere charging 3000 (honestly, can not remember where).According to their web site "Due to changes in internet consumer rules" they no longer show prices. Changes in internet rules that prohibit showing prices, really. Oh well when you explain police raids on the shops in 7/1 as invitations I guess its not so far fetched. Cannot imagine blocking access from Soi 4 is helping business either. Despite what some may think I'm actually beginning to feel a little sorry for them.

BionicMan
11-13-16, 07:34
To Keiser.

It is still 2500 bht for full service but the girl want a 500 bht tip even you get lousy service give this place a pass.

Fast Eddie 48.The pride (and advantage) of annie's was the "all in" price and the tip was really a tip if you were feeling like giving it. No obligation, no demand.

Have they reduced the girl part of the fee and they feel obliged to demand a tip?

Or are they just getting greedy since too many tip loosely as customary in their homeland?

Syzygies
11-13-16, 07:54
To Keiser.

It is still 2500 bht for full service but the girl want a 500 bht tip even you get lousy service give this place a pass.

Fast Eddie 48.The girl only makes about 1000 from the 2500. Its no surprise they want more. Shop overheads seem too high.

Some girls give good service some don't.

Franciscass
11-13-16, 11:30
To Keiser.

It is still 2500 bht for full service but the girl want a 500 bht tip even you get lousy service give this place a pass.

Fast Eddie 48.Wanting I. E. In the sense of expecting an extra 500 bath is unusual. If true excusing it because they are paid below scale is disingenuous. The sad but simple truth is that those that work there for 1000 baht a session do so because that is what their attractiveness is worth in a competitive marketplace. The house keeping 60% is indeed greedy. As to having high overheads I can only wonder what these might be. Superior facilities? I think not.

WarmStone25
11-13-16, 15:14
I dropped in last Friday afternoon. I had been to Billboard where one girl asked for 5000 bht and an other asked for 4000 bht. This was before the bar fine. I felt it was all a scam so I repaired to Annies. At Annies I was shown a selection of girls and offered advice on which ones were good performers. I was of offered a well built girl but I prefer slim and well proportioned. So I choose one of these recommended for good service. The soapy and body to body rub and session on the bed were very good. I was not asked for tip, although the girl probably deserved it. All in cost 2500 bht, a lot less than Billboard. The girl was not a stunner but made up for that with good service. She was from Issan, number 42 (I hope this is correct).

The room looked as if it could do with being freshened up. Many of the girls in Billboard were better looking but is the level of service there?

BionicMan
11-13-16, 16:57
The girl only makes about 1000 from the 2500. Its no surprise they want more. Shop overheads seem too high.

Some girls give good service some don't.There are freelancers in nana park who accept 1000 for a ST, I would say it is quite the norm.

Advantage for them is they work if, when and how much they want. At Annie's they have more stringent shifts to follow.

Disadvantage is they stand outside all day long to catch a customer. At Annie's they are inside, in Air con, but not seeing much the light of the day.

Chances to be chosen are equal, with a tiny better advantage for Annie's ones, as word of mouth can do good marketing, and they might get more business.

EihTooms
11-14-16, 03:38
Many of the girls in Billboard were better looking but is the level of service there?I have taken at least a half dozen girls from Billboard over the past 2-3 of years including a couple of them after the highly praised new owners took over and, unless I am forgetting a lone exception somewhere along the line, every single one of them turned out to be a dud / waste of my time and money. Why did I even bother to keep trying after the first 2-3 duds? LOL. Because I kept hearing and reading what a terrific go-go bar Billboard is or has become since the new owners took over, big changes in the place, blah, blah, blah. In fact, Stickman's Weekly (Stickman, who apparently has not barfined a girl out of a go-go bar in a decade or two, if ever) just two weeks ago was all about how he thought Billboard was "simply the best" go-go bar in all of Thailand if not in the world. He even repeated the claim somewhere in his most recent article yesterday. Perhaps that is the kind of online promotion that emboldens the girls to quote rather high ST rates for themselves.

Meanwhile, you could never tell it by my experiences with the girls there. Not up until the last one I tried based on all these rave reviews of the place, maybe a month or two ago. Sure, I might have just been very unlucky with the rather hot girls who were all over me and agreeing to all kinds of wonderful experiences in the room that instead turned into one "fake incapacitating drunkenness", "fake incapacitating sleepiness", "fake misunderstanding about what she agreed to in the bar" and so on experience after another at least 6-7 times in a row over the past 2-3 years. But from my up close and personal point of view, it is definitely a trend, not ordinary bad luck. YMMV, of course.

I was just in there again last week. Yes, there were many hot girls there and I chatted up a couple of them, bought lady drinks, had a pleasant time. But there was nothing about the place or the girls I spoke with that led me to believe the end result would be any different than the dud/waste of my time and money pattern for me at Billboard. So I bailed out of Billboard and had a fine time with a new girl from Twister Bar, 2,500 baht for a leisurely, unrushed ST in my apartment, my way.

Red Kilt
11-14-16, 04:54
I have taken at least a half dozen girls from Billboard over the past 2-3 of years including a couple of them after the highly praised new owners took over and, unless I am forgetting a lone exception somewhere along the line, every single one of them turned out to be a dud / waste of my time and money. <SNIP>Hardly a post for "Bangkok MP Annie's Only" ET.

Shouldn't it be in "Bangkok MP. Other than Tulip or Annies"?

Nevertheless, your post highlights how there are levels of promotion across all media that don't fit the facts.

EihTooms
11-14-16, 05:21
Hardly a post for "Bangkok MP Annie's Only" ET.

Shouldn't it be in "Bangkok MP. Other than Tulip or Annies"?

Nevertheless, your post highlights how there are levels of promotion across all media that don't fit the facts.Well, I was just answering WarmStone25's question from my point of view with a little more background support than merely offering a basic opinion. I suppose I could have just said, "You were better off taking the Annie's girl than a Billboard girl", and left it at that. But I'm guessing that kind of reply would have triggered another question or two about it.

Member #4591
11-19-16, 04:05
Originally posted by Francisass as a response to my post.

"You have to admit the doc writes well. He obviously spent a lot of time getting this one just right. I don't know the girl in question and she may give a decent session but his over the top account is simply a marketing pitch to get you to Annie's. He's in business with the owners and I can only surmise that business must be really slow if they have to call on him once again to hype it up. My advise Doc, to make your posts remotely credible try toning them down just a tad. I know you were expecting this and I'm also expecting your well known surrogates to weigh in".

Considering you are an intelligent individual I can't believe you fell for the so obvious trap I put into my post. Was it that you're spite got the better of you concerning anything to do with everything I post or any business I post about or have connection to? Surmising is akin to assumption or guess work and very rarely accurate. I welcome advise from almost anyone with the exception of yourself of course, especially where posting on forums is concerned based on the evidence that I cannot recall a single constructive field report that you have posted. Of course I knew you couldn't resist the temptation to criticize anything I post about despite admitting yourself you know nothing about the lady in the post. I think the correct term is prejudice. If these kinds of posts help you to get through your day then allow me to give you some advise, try getting out more.

Regards,

BJI'm sorry Doc but I'm going to call you out on this one. I walked into Annie's on Thursday night and you were sitting at the bar on your laptop. So please just give it a rest will you. And as for Francissass, you do really need to post a good report or two about a mongering experience. Honestly, I wouldn't lose any sleep if either of you stopped posting reports because they're really of no use to anyone on this forum.


Regards,

Dog

Franciscass
11-19-16, 08:12
I'm sorry Doc but I'm going to call you out on this one. I walked into Annie's on Thursday night and you were sitting at the bar on your laptop. So please just give it a rest will you. And as for Francissass, you do really need to post a good report or two about a mongering experience. Honestly, I wouldn't lose any sleep if either of you stopped posting reports because they're really of no use to anyone on this forum.


Regards,

DogActually Dog by posting above you are prolonging what I readily accept is long past being boring. I would however for the record mention that pointing out suspicious recommendations by individuals known to be connected to this place can be of use, maybe not to an experienced member like yourself but to others less knowledgeable.

Member #4591
11-19-16, 11:46
The girl only makes about 1000 from the 2500. Its no surprise they want more. Shop overheads seem too high.

Some girls give good service some don't.I have it on good authority that the girls in the Suk oilies get 1,500 and the house gets the room charge for the time. 400,600, or 800. I can't see Annie's paying any different than that or the girls would jump ship. The traffic at Annie's is not any better than Suk to warrant a sacrifice by the girls like that, especially now that access from Soi 4 is now blocked.

Franciscass
11-19-16, 16:01
I have it on good authority that the girls in the Suk oilies get 1,500 and the house gets the room charge for the time. 400,600, or 800. I can't see Annie's paying any different than that or the girls would jump ship. The traffic at Annie's is not any better than Suk to warrant a sacrifice by the girls like that, especially now that access from Soi 4 is now blocked.The target market at Annie's is not the knowledgeable punter. Like most of the outfits in lower Sukhumvit they look to hook the passing transient trade. Their marketing is internet based which explains why the doc is always on his laptop. The staff at Annie's and the Soi 7 shops with some exceptions are not attractive enough to make the grade in the more mainstream go go, soapie or oilie scene. Getting 1000 a session plus tips maybe 15 to 20 times a month is the most they can expect and that is why they work there. The house keeping 60% is greedy but why not if you can get away with it.

Ableyone
11-19-16, 16:16
I spent three nights in Bangkok at the end of my trip so I called into this place which was around the block from my hotel. Limited selection when I arrived around 6 pm on a Friday though having researched this beforehand in the hotel, I was expecting this to be the case.

I've no complaints about my selection, very nice lady, good sex and excellent value with the two pops included.

The only slight negative from my point of view and it is a real shame since it will stop me from going back there again; unlike Honey 1 in Pattaya where they used an inflatable mattress (or lilo where I come from) for the soapy bit, here they just had a rubber gym type mat. As a result during the soapy massage whilst she was sliding up my back I ended up banging my rib on the relatively hard mat, this injury was to later cause some discomfort for the remainder of my trip.

BionicMan
11-19-16, 18:23
..., especially now that access from Soi 4 is now blocked.Is it fully blocked or is there some walkway through?

Syzygies
11-20-16, 09:08
I have it on good authority that the girls in the Suk oilies get 1,500 and the house gets the room charge for the time. 400,600, or 800. I can't see Annie's paying any different than that or the girls would jump ship. The traffic at Annie's is not any better than Suk to warrant a sacrifice by the girls like that, especially now that access from Soi 4 is now blocked.Its no use applying logic and speculating. Annies girls do not get 1500 per booking. You can ask them.

Also there are many oilies where girls are getting less than 1500 from the all in price. I have heard 1400 a number of times and occasionally less depending on establishment.

Houston Player
11-20-16, 17:06
Is it fully blocked or is there some walkway through?Fully blocked no walkway. It sucks LOL. I've been told it will last 5 months but from the pace of construction I would bet longer.

BionicMan
11-21-16, 05:57
Fully blocked no walkway. It sucks LOL. I've been told it will last 5 months but from the pace of construction I would bet longer.So bad for those staying at majestic grande not to mention the annie's business.

Franciscass
11-21-16, 07:50
So bad for those staying at majestic grande not to mention the annie's business.The Grande is next door, might you be referring to the Majestic Suites between 4 and 6?

Franciscass
11-21-16, 11:51
So bad for those staying at majestic grande not to mention the annie's business.Rereading your post I feel you were talking about guests at the Grande making their way to Soi 4. Apologizes.

Houston Player
11-21-16, 17:45
The Grande is next door, might you be referring to the Majestic Suites between 4 and 6?The Majestic Grande is on Soi 2 and that blocked walk way is the easy access to Soi 4 and Nana Plaza. The walk around via Sukhumvit is not that bad it's just a pain in the ass to not have the walk way.

I don't know about Annies since it has been around for so long but the fairly recently opened Mexican restaurant may not make it.

BionicMan
11-21-16, 20:00
The Majestic Grande is on Soi 2 and that blocked walk way is the easy access to Soi 4 and Nana Plaza. The walk around via Sukhumvit is not that bad it's just a pain in the ass to not have the walk way.

I don't know about Annies since it has been around for so long but the fairly recently opened Mexican restaurant may not make it.Annie might survive as the business is establidhed and doesn't live on passer byes.

Different story is for the Mexican, still in the process of being known in the market, not easy seen the generic cheapfood area.

KkLife
11-22-16, 15:54
Was on a Bangkok trip with my wife and managed to excuse myself for an hour and decided to go for Annies as I was staying at Majestic Grand which is right next to Annies.

I went there at 11:30 PM and was greeted nicely by a young lady and showed me the girls. I chose No. 49 as she was the best among the options shown to me and was also waving hand therefore thought she would give her best services.

This was my first soapy massage therefore had no idea what follows next. As we entered in the room for the massage, it was spacious with a bathtub and mattress and a bed (or call it a massage table).

The girls name was Tao (No. 49) and she was quite bubbly and talkative. She was joking, teasing, playing all through out and I was loving it. She was making all the efforts to please and give her best services.

When she undressed herself, I saw some great natural big tits. She was plump though but I liked it and has a great ass.

DFK, Body to body was all done in the bathtub and then on the mattress. Further we proceeded to the big massage table where she gave an amazing BJ. I was too aroused by then and had to stop her. She then put on a condy on my tool and went ahead with CBJ. Couldn't take it for longer and asked her to stop.

Finally, she rode my tool and ended in WOT. I can't believe the experience I had.

Annies offer 2 hours experience but I was done in an hour. My wife was calling on my phone therefore had to leave the place but the girl was in no hurry. She was lying on top of me and kissing me everywhere. She was a great fun and would recommend her to anyone interested in bubbly, plump and big boob girl.

Damage: 2. 5 K.

Experience: 10/10.

Dr BJ
11-25-16, 08:39
I'm sorry Doc but I'm going to call you out on this one. I walked into Annie's on Thursday night and you were sitting at the bar on your laptop. So please just give it a rest will you. And as for Francissass, you do really need to post a good report or two about a mongering experience. Honestly, I wouldn't lose any sleep if either of you stopped posting reports because they're really of no use to anyone on this forum.


Regards,

DogAre you actually comparing my reports to Francisass? You said you were going to call me out then didn't? I was on my laptop, yes it's called working. If you don't like my posts then why do you read them. Seriously it's responses like these which have made over a dozen people that I know stop posting here. A very sad loss as these guys gave valuable insights and experiences.

Franciscass
11-26-16, 03:20
Are you actually comparing my reports to Francisass? You said you were going to call me out then didn't? I was on my laptop, yes it's called working. If you don't like my posts then why do you read them. Seriously it's responses like these which have made over a dozen people that I know stop posting here. A very sad loss as these guys gave valuable insights and experiences.Ah at last a confession. Over a dozen people giving "valuable insights and experiences" that the doc knows personally.

Member #4591
11-26-16, 08:28
Are you actually comparing my reports to Francisass? You said you were going to call me out then didn't? I was on my laptop, yes it's called working. If you don't like my posts then why do you read them. Seriously it's responses like these which have made over a dozen people that I know stop posting here. A very sad loss as these guys gave valuable insights and experiences.For * sake, you are reporting on the girls in the very shop that you work at. Don't insult my intelligence! Give it a rest. It's an obvious shill and further more you should not be aloud to post reports reviewing the girls at Annie's because you are working there. I can't believe it has gone on this long.

I repeat. Business owners, including yourself, should not be allowed to post reviews on this forum of the girls that work in their shop! This is what I'm calling you out on. Extreme conflict of interest and totally unbelievable.

Member #4591
11-26-16, 09:31
Are you actually comparing my reports to Francisass? You said you were going to call me out then didn't? I was on my laptop, yes it's called working. If you don't like my posts then why do you read them. Seriously it's responses like these which have made over a dozen people that I know stop posting here. A very sad loss as these guys gave valuable insights and experiences.And where did I begin to compare your reports with anyone. You are avoiding the obvious by dancing around the issue. I'm sorry Doc but I've had enough. Good luck with Annie's.

Member #4591
11-26-16, 09:38
Had one of my top 3 experiences at Annie's on Saturday evening. As the title suggests the lady was number 1. The body type being exactly what I like, she is one of those type of people who is very quiet and almost never smiles. Happily my fears were very quickly dispelled. She was very open and relaxed which is unusual for the first encounter. She has worked at Annie's for around 6 months and must be a fast learner because without exaggeration this ranks as one of my top 3 experiences here. My next few bookings will be solely focused on number 1 because in my experience it is highly likely that she will meet a customer with more money than sense. One of those type of guys who have visited Bangkok 2-3 times, mid to late 30's, possibly divorced and drops off his brain in that perspex box at the airport. The point here is time is of the essence so if anyone wants to sample the many delights she possesses don't hang about as I doubt she will be here in 12 months time or shorter. She may return when the "romance" goes south but who knows. I would now like to invite the usual detractors to step forward and start their customary sniping. No need to name names you all know who they are, the "funnel web spider types" who lurk waiting to spread negativity and never post anything of any constructive use to anyone. If you want to listen to these guys and allow them to rob you of a great experience then be my guest. So to summarize.

Face: 7/10.

Body: 9.5/10 Agreed this is highly subjective but this is my opinion.

Boobs 8.5/10 Small but natural and I will take small over silicone all day long.

Ass: 10/10 Again opinions will vary.

Kissing: 7/10 whilst willing and enthusiastic Thai girls just don't seem to be good kissers.

DFK: Yes.

BJ: 9/10 No idea how she can do this at her age.

Attitude: 10/10 In all honesty I am unable to see any area she could improve on.

Clock watcher: Never.

Starfish rating: 0/10 This was one of the highlights of the whole thing. Any position was on the menu.

Body slide: Not applicable, picked one of the VIP rooms.

Oil massage: Average for one of these girls but she performed with enthusiasm which is important.

A+: Unlikely for one so young and in any case didn't ask as it's not my thing.

CIM: Yes.

Height: around 5 foot.

Weight 40 kg.

WIR: Already booked for my next visit.

I hope this information is of use to the readers and for anyone who is interested I recommend making an advanced booking as the chances of walking in and picking her are rather slim, she is quickly building up a sizable fan base.

Regards,



BJ


Are you actually comparing my reports to Francisass? You said you were going to call me out then didn't? I was on my laptop, yes it's called working. If you don't like my posts then why do you read them. Seriously it's responses like these which have made over a dozen people that I know stop posting here. A very sad loss as these guys gave valuable insights and experiences.Now that Dr. BJ has admitted to working at Annie's, this report should be deleted and his account should be changed to commercial and admin should charge a fee for him to post. This is my strong feeling.

Wolvenvacht
11-26-16, 13:52
Now that Dr. BJ has admitted to working at Annie's, this report should be deleted and his account should be changed to commercial and admin should charge a fee for him to post. This is my strong feeling.Strong feelings and 40 baht buys you a cup of noodle soup. :)

Mackin
11-26-16, 15:59
Now that Dr. BJ has admitted to working at Annie's, this report should be deleted and his account should be changed to commercial and admin should charge a fee for him to post. This is my strong feeling.Some people just need to quit worrying about a report. If you don't like the place don't go there. If you don't like the writer, don't read it. If you take a sample from a girl and she doesn't do what is expected tell others. But always remember others may have different results many times. But never make a determination with out knowing the full story.

I have never had a bad experience there and had some good recommendation from you know who when he was there.

Franciscass
11-26-16, 18:13
Some people just need to quit worrying about a report. If you don't like the place don't go there. If you don't like the writer, don't read it. If you take a sample from a girl and she doesn't do what is expected tell others. But always remember others may have different results many times. But never make a determination with out knowing the full story.

I have never had a bad experience there and had some good recommendation from you know who when he was there.With respect the issue here is not about what's obvious, I. E. That members have different experiences with the same girl, it's about pointing out blatant abuse of the forum by some business owners. The Annie's- Soi 7/1 operators have always maintained there is no connection between them other than the occasional helping hand. What I feel Dog was pointing out was this was untrue and also that owners should not post what amounts to promotion of their shops under the guise of being a members report or use surrogates to do so. There are lots of outfits mentioned on ISG and while I may be wrong I am of the opinion that Annie's and the Soi /7 shops are the only ones that hype up their business in this way. This forum is a leader in providing credible information on the P4P scene around the world. I for one think it's wrong when business owners abuse it and I don't understand why people object to having this pointed out.

Member #4591
11-26-16, 18:18
Some people just need to quit worrying about a report. If you don't like the place don't go there. If you don't like the writer, don't read it. If you take a sample from a girl and she doesn't do what is expected tell others. But always remember others may have different results many times. But never make a determination with out knowing the full story.

I have never had a bad experience there and had some good recommendation from you know who when he was there.You don't get the point do you. Is it ok to have shills written here? So what you are actually saying is yes. It's ok for owners to come on here, open accounts, and then post reviews about the girls. Dr. BJ has long proclaimed he is not an owner at Annie's and does not work there. However, he has finally admitted it and you want to tell me this is ok? Hogwash! This girl is new, number 1 and it is obvious he has posted the review to give her exposure and boost her business as she is a newbie to the game. The review is absolutly fake and a shill and should not be aloud on the forum.

We question reports on girls all the time when the reviewer has a post count of 1 suspecting it's a shill from the owner but when he is a senior member with ownership in a shop, we think it is now ok? Get your head out of your * man. It's wrong period!

The reason people stop posting on here are because of shills like this guy and off topic posts. Not because good contributing members complain about shills from owners who write reviews on their own girls. This would not even last a second in the China or Philipjnes threads but for whatever reason, it's acceptable here? Not acceptable to me and I know many others.

Member #4591
11-27-16, 04:20
With respect the issue here is not about what's obvious, I. E. That members have different experiences with the same girl, it's about pointing out blatant abuse of the forum by some business owners. The Annie's- Soi 7/1 operators have always maintained there is no connection between them other than the occasional helping hand. What I feel Dog was pointing out was this was untrue and also that owners should not post what amounts to promotion of their shops under the guise of being a members report or use surrogates to do so. There are lots of outfits mentioned on ISG and while I may be wrong I am of the opinion that Annie's and the Soi /7 shops are the only ones that hype up their business in this way. This forum is a leader in providing credible information on the P4P scene around the world. I for one think it's wrong when business owners abuse it and I don't understand why people object to having this pointed out.Great insight on this. I would however really love it if you would put the same time and energy into a field report that we could all find useful. I look forward to one soon.

Regards,

BKK Dog.

Member #4591
11-27-16, 04:27
Strong feelings and 40 baht buys you a cup of noodle soup. :)Strong feelings and 2500 baht also buys you a session at Annie's and I for one would like to read a real review on the place instead of a blatant shill from the owner or employee claiming he had a session with one of the girls. Don't get me wrong, I like Annie's and I am a huge fan of no. 23 and have had many great sessions with her and other ladies there but Dr. BJ actually does more harm than good.

Franciscass
11-27-16, 12:11
Great insight on this. I would however really love it if you would put the same time and energy into a field report that we could all find useful. I look forward to one soon.

Regards,

BKK Dog.You flatter me Dog to suggest that any report I might post would be of the slightest interest to anybody. But if I must, my preferred modus operandi is to wander hither and thither and see what turns up. Usually it's that certain eye contact you make when you walk into a shop that prompts me to stay. Sometimes it turns out to be pleasurable more often it's simply another 2 hours in another day that's quickly forgotten. I personally find it somewhat gratuitous to go into detail on what I experience but I have no issue with members who do so and look forward to reading their reports, at least those who have the knack of making them both interesting and humorous. As to where I go, presently I visit Dala massage on Thonglor a Japanese rub and tug joint to see a girl called DEW, I like Snow White and Massage at S19 off Soi 19. As I said of little interest to anybody.

Member #4591
11-27-16, 12:44
Having read an earlier review of #1, I figured I'd give her a try. It's been a few years since I last visited.

What a mistake.

Her service was so lackluster, no BJ and went straight for cowgirl. I didn't even bother to finish. I lost interest after 30 minutes.

She belongs to the golden pussy club, and I've had my fair share of girls like that.

I guess YMMV applies here, but it didn't work for me.

Would not repeat and would not return to Annie's. Way too many options.Well so the best girl at Annies according to Dr. BJ will be gone shortly because she will lose interest? Hogwash again. Here an actual review that proves he so full of it. So again, I'm calling you out on your fake reviews used to help this lady get more business.

The sad part about all this is this punter actually took Dr Bj's advice and went and saw this lady. After his experience, and I quote "Would not repeat and would not return to Annie's"

I will return to book No. 23 again sometime in the future but I will never follow any recommendation from Dr. BJ.

Regards,

Dog

Syzygies
11-28-16, 15:32
Having read an earlier review of #1, I figured I'd give her a try. It's been a few years since I last visited.

What a mistake.

Her service was so lackluster, no BJ and went straight for cowgirl. I didn't even bother to finish. I lost interest after 30 minutes.

She belongs to the golden pussy club, and I've had my fair share of girls like that.

I guess YMMV applies here, but it didn't work for me.

Would not repeat and would not return to Annie's. Way too many options.I know very well that Dr BJ is an extreme optimist. I don't believe his reports. I can't imagine why he would post in the Annies thread at all (part of being an optimist).

You know what? I have no reason to believe yours either, being a first time poster.

Its much safer for me to choose a girl of my own spec, and reach my own conclusions.

Franciscass
11-28-16, 17:13
I know very well that Dr BJ is an extreme optimist. I don't believe his reports. I can't imagine why he would post in the Annies thread at all (part of being an optimist).That's odd S. You previously claimed you didn't know him at all, now you know very well what kind of person he is. Umm. His reports are not believable because he is an extreme optimist. How does that work. As to why he posts in the Annie's thread. I'll give a clue. He works there. I know, its a vendetta, post something useful blah blah.

Member #4591
11-28-16, 17:29
I know very well that Dr BJ is an extreme optimist. I don't believe his reports. I can't imagine why he would post in the Annies thread at all (part of being an optimist).

You know what? I have no reason to believe yours either, being a first time poster.

Its much safer for me to choose a girl of my own spec, and reach my own conclusions.Sorry but this poster reviewed number 1 and that's what started the controversy. The only point you have just proved here is that most members don't believe a reviewer with a post count of one, so why are they believing a review posted by the boss of the lady?

Secondly, I would never of even made a comment on this load of Krap thread if had not been for the smartalek comments from Dr. BJ. He really thinks the members here are stupid. I've had enough of his garbage shills.

Syzygies
11-30-16, 09:40
Sorry but this poster reviewed number 1 and that's what started the controversy. The only point you have just proved here is that most members don't believe a reviewer with a post count of one, so why are they believing a review posted by the boss of the lady?

Secondly, I would never of even made a comment on this load of Krap thread if had not been for the smartalek comments from Dr. BJ. He really thinks the members here are stupid. I've had enough of his garbage shills.I stated quite clearly I don't believe either post. I have no clue if No. 1 is good or bad. I don't give a shit what they wrote in the reports. I can make my own decision.

I don't know No. 1 and probably never will. I have not attended for several months. Had other things on my agenda.

I agree the Dr. BJ is silly to post Annies girl reports since he works there (and at Wood Bar presumeably).

I also don't really buy the change of Shareholder story for Wood and Chrome. O.K. the ownership is probably indirect through holding companies, or whatever. It's immaterial. Sold to another company can be a ruse, if all participants have the same end owner. We know (or suspect strongly) who the big bosses are.

There is no affiliation. Ha ha. The big joke.

AssLover945
12-01-16, 15:41
I am a big fan of Blowjobs, being as they are quick effortless and cheap. I have gone to almost all the Bolowjob bars in Bangkok and a few in Pattaya too.

The normal costs everywhere are 700-800 bahts for a Blowjob and 1000-1200 for sex in the same room (no special room with beds etc). In this post I will make a comparison between these 2 bars. Som's Haven at soi 14 and Wood Bar at soi7/1.

Som's haven: 700 for a blowjob (30 minutes max), 1200 for blowjob and sex (45 minutes max) and 1700 for special room with unlimited times sex (1 hour max).

Girl's attitude: Open dress topless at the time of blowjob for eye candy.

Wood Bar: 700 for Blowjob from a "Nurse" (please read Fugly. Kept intentionally) and 1000 Bahts for a "Consultant" (who are skilled at their job). Then there is the special room with sex for 3000 (2 hours limit) (that is what the ladies told me).

Girl's attitude: both girls that I took wanted 500 baht for opening their top, which I denied.

My opinion: SOM's Haven is way better in every category. I particularly enjoy the 1 Hours - 1700 Bahts. Unlimited times sex in their special room.

Member #4591
12-01-16, 15:53
I am a big fan of Blowjobs, being as they are quick effortless and cheap. I have gone to almost all the Bolowjob bars in Bangkok and a few in Pattaya too.

The normal costs everywhere are 700-800 bahts for a Blowjob and 1000-1200 for sex in the same room (no special room with beds etc). In this post I will make a comparison between these 2 bars. Som's Haven at soi 14 and Wood Bar at soi7/1.

Som's haven: 700 for a blowjob (30 minutes max), 1200 for blowjob and sex (45 minutes max) and 1700 for special room with unlimited times sex (1 hour max).

Girl's attitude: Open dress topless at the time of blowjob for eye candy.

Wood Bar: 700 for Blowjob from a "Nurse" (please read Fugly. Kept intentionally) and 1000 Bahts for a "Consultant" (who are skilled at their job). Then there is the special room with sex for 3000 (2 hours limit) (that is what the ladies told me).

Girl's attitude: both girls that I took wanted 500 baht for opening their top, which I denied.

My opinion: SOM's Haven is way better in every category. I particularly enjoy the 1 Hours - 1700 Bahts. Unlimited times sex in their special room.Hilarious! Now Wood bar reviews are going under the Annie's thread. Good one on ya mate.

Wander Luster
12-21-16, 19:39
I stated quite clearly I don't believe either post. I have no clue if No. 1 is good or bad. I don't give a shit what they wrote in the reports. I can make my own decision.

I don't know No. 1 and probably never will. I have not attended for several months. Had other things on my agenda.

I agree the Dr. BJ is silly to post Annies girl reports since he works there (and at Wood Bar presumeably).


There is no affiliation. Ha ha. The big joke.Poetic justice here. People really should stay away from Annies. This place shot themselves in foot (penis? Vagina?) metaphorically speaking. Dr. BJ should be banned from these forums IF it were a fact that he's reviewing girls where he works. That's not "silly" it's major BS. Can a restaurant review themselfs on TripAdvisor, Yelp, or Google? No, they are BANNED for doing that.

Also consider that the "dr. " could do something to "out" someone if he gets pissed off at a review. So, I'm not giving to many details: he could probably identify me if I mention the girls number I went with if he works there and tried to identify me.

I planned to stay away, but my hotel is on Soi 2 close-by. There are about 5 guys hanging outside, sitting on chairs near it. Do they work there?

I went at a time in last 24 hours that was a bit off hours. There were 3 girls that looked good in the fishbowl. Some seriously not-so-good girls that were over-weight. It's been said that dancer bar girls are better because you know what you're getting. That's not been an issue in the past. But this time, "my girl" turned out to be probably the single least attractive woman I've ever handed over money for. She was over-weight which I didn't see with her clothes on. She was totally out of shape and had stretch marks. She had A size breasts that were NOT attractive. Attitude I won't mention, but certainly not great.

She did have a cute face which was why I picked her from what I saw.

I will NEVER go back there again. And, I'll be more careful choosing from a line-up when girls are wearing a lot of cloths- not bikini. But my experience in the other message places is I've always been very satisfied with looks when cloths come off and with attitude. In fact, some of the best stunners ever in my life were from them 10-15 years ago, with one GF experience I will remember all my life.

All around the grade for experience. Price was only 2500 for one hour (cheap).

Syzygies
12-23-16, 06:00
Also consider that the "dr. " could do something to "out" someone if he gets pissed off at a review. So, I'm not giving to many details: he could probably identify me if I mention the girls number I went with if he works there and tried to identify me.

I planned to stay away, but my hotel is on Soi 2 close-by. There are about 5 guys hanging outside, sitting on chairs near it. Do they work there?

I went at a time in last 24 hours that was a bit off hours. There were 3 girls that looked good in the fishbowl. Some seriously not-so-good girls that were over-weight. It's been said that dancer bar girls are better because you know what you're getting. That's not been an issue in the past. But this time, "my girl" turned out to be probably the single least attractive woman I've ever handed over money for. She was over-weight which I didn't see with her clothes on. She was totally out of shape and had stretch marks. She had A size breasts that were NOT attractive. Attitude I won't mention, but certainly not great.

She did have a cute face which was why I picked her from what I saw.

I will NEVER go back there again. And, I'll be more careful choosing from a line-up when girls are wearing a lot of cloths- not bikini. But my experience in the other message places is I've always been very satisfied with looks when cloths come off and with attitude. In fact, some of the best stunners ever in my life were from them 10-15 years ago, with one GF experience I will remember all my life.

All around the grade for experience. Price was only 2500 for one hour (cheap).Some general comments, not necessarily specific to Annies.

Fortunately Dr. BJ does not know me, so I can write what I like, and I try not to know management too well. Gop and Aey know me a little but certainly not my real name.

I guess by "outing" you are referring to ISG handle becoming known. One former Annies girl became aware of my handle due to another ISGer reading the detail of my report to her and I was too specific.

That is something to be wary about. Fortunately I had very nice things to say about the girl. It may also be known that I gave No. 99 a bad review and I don't really care.

You should be able to tell something about the figure since line up girls do stand up which is more than happens at most soapies. If girl is dressed to hide the figure too much, don't pick her.

That is why I like nudie bars. See the body in great detail before choosing. Never get a dud body from there. Dick scared is the big danger.

So you picked the wrong girl. Nothing too unusual. I am surprised you needed to choose a girl out of just 3. I would have moved on, if no one particularly appealed.

You could have gone down the road a bit and looked in Darling. Not good idea to go to soapies in "off" hours. I always strongly recommend arriving between 5 PM and 8 PM, no later than 9 PM, unless you have a booking. Sometimes I do make a booking if know the girl's name and number.

I never understand why guys have a poor experience and then write they will never return to a place. Its like throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Each can do whatever they choose of course.

Just I am not writing "Never Return".

I don't have too many places on my blacklist as such. One or two or even three bad girl experiences does not necessarily cause me to give away a place, but that is just me. Okay If you feel the management is causing you too much stress and that is a reason to stay away. I did sort of give away Rainbow 3 in nana Plaza a few years back because of very constant hassling by waitresses and mamasans. Not related to a bad girl experience at all, in fact never selected a girl there. There was certainly no reason to return, though. Plenty of competition.

I have had at least 4 starfish or dick scared girls from Crazy House bar over time, maybe more, yet I keep going. They were just my bad choices, and I understand why, and more recently make far less mistakes. In Annies I only ever had one bad girl experience. Very fortunate? Average standard has been very good for looks and performance, only because I choose extremely carefully (except the once), and always happy move on if nothing takes my fancy. Granted the number of appealing girls may not be high. I did not take any girl for at least the last 6 months so have no clue what the line up is currently like. However I certainly have no need to rule out ever returning, when the right target girl happens to be there. I have to admit, I usually would have a target girl and unlikely to be just browsing at Annies. I will say I don't like the aircon being too cold in the rooms.

If a girl I want is there, I will go there. Management is not hassling me. It's all about the girl, for my regulars, and I only take new girls, if they seem really special, or if I am incredibly desperate.

Some nights recently I was in the Nana area and ended up going home with no girl done at all, having looked in several places, including the Nana Car Park, and checking Thermae also. I recommend to choose a girl very carefully to minimise chances of disappointment.

Syzygies
12-23-16, 06:10
I am a big fan of Blowjobs, being as they are quick effortless and cheap. I have gone to almost all the Bolowjob bars in Bangkok and a few in Pattaya too.

The normal costs everywhere are 700-800 bahts for a Blowjob and 1000-1200 for sex in the same room (no special room with beds etc). In this post I will make a comparison between these 2 bars. Som's Haven at soi 14 and Wood Bar at soi7/1.

Som's haven: 700 for a blowjob (30 minutes max), 1200 for blowjob and sex (45 minutes max) and 1700 for special room with unlimited times sex (1 hour max).

Girl's attitude: Open dress topless at the time of blowjob for eye candy.

Wood Bar: 700 for Blowjob from a "Nurse" (please read Fugly. Kept intentionally) and 1000 Bahts for a "Consultant" (who are skilled at their job). Then there is the special room with sex for 3000 (2 hours limit) (that is what the ladies told me).

Girl's attitude: both girls that I took wanted 500 baht for opening their top, which I denied.

My opinion: SOM's Haven is way better in every category. I particularly enjoy the 1 Hours - 1700 Bahts. Unlimited times sex in their special room.Good report Can't you mention the specific girls, especially any good looking ones? I am surprised that Wood bar girls would want extra 500 for opening the top, however my BJ experiences there were so long ago I can't remember now, and only took BJ there twice.

Are Som's Haven girls prettier than the Nurses? I have no clue as visited Som's only once long ago and no acceptably pretty girls at the time. I would be happy to pay 1 K for a prettier girl. Looks make a big difference to me. I used to take Anne at lolly-tas who was miles above average BJ looks, with really hot ass. Her BJ was not special so I used to do FS.

Have to agree 1 hour 1700 sounds good, but only if girl passes the looks test, although I would prefer 90 minutes. I am certainly willing to pass through and have a look.

BionicMan
12-23-16, 07:41
Strong feelings and 2500 baht also buys you a session at Annie's and I for one would like to read a real review on the place instead of a blatant shill from the owner or employee claiming he had a session with one of the girls. The lack of reports from BM is a clear statement Annie's caters to a different type of customer range.

Probably the same preferring escort agencies to social media pick up's or gogo's / bars.

Most likely Annie's is in the official paths of those real tourists taking a few hours off to taste the wild BKK as they read in tourist guides.

It might not have the same business volume as in the past but it is a fact the establishment is still run and has to have a fair amount of paying visitors.

They simply do not write here.

Syzygies
12-23-16, 08:38
Probably the same preferring escort agencies to social media pick up's or gogo's / bars.

Most likely Annie's is in the official paths of those real tourists taking a few hours off to taste the wild BKK as they read in tourist guides.

It might not have the same business volume as in the past but it is a fact the establishment is still run and has to have a fair amount of paying visitors.

They simply do not write here.Yes most guys do not post here any more as fear Francis' Ass. The comment re Escorts reads a bit fanciful to me. I don't see any similarity between Annies girls and escorts, nor the types of customers. Unless it could be that customers wanting A+ at a Soapy are likely to choose Annies, and many Escort customers also look for A+, but I really doubt it would be the same customers, very commonly. I imagine a high percentage of Annies girls are mothers, certainly not all (I have had several non mothers), but a low percentage of Escorts would be mothers, or Escort customers are looking for bodies with no baby damage. Are my assumptions off the mark?

Some guys like me, will take an appealing girl, regardless of what shop she works at. Annies itself is irrelevant. I also happen to be a big fan of body slide massage as opposed to real massage, so that had to be a factor in choosing BJ Nuru, and Annies and a girl that has worked at both.

I recall checking out another Pathetic forum starting with W. They had hundreds (at risk of exaggerating) of reports about Annies at the time a few years back, as though it was the only Soapy in town, and the "bees knees" believe it or not, and all the famous Oilies had far fewer reports. Most posters were smart ass types with a lot of one line tweets.

I think Annies does get a lot of custom from guys staying very close by that are lazy to go round looking in lots of alternatives. Strangely, although staying in the area many times in the distant past, I was not aware of Annies until started reading ISG (perhaps 11 years ago), and only first tried it years later with tall model like girl Mimi. Early visits I fancied Aey only, and chose no girl. LOL The line up did improve.

This thread would be much better if actual field experience reports dominated it, but most guys have been scared away that might have posted a positive recommendation. I certainly posted reports on girls tried, however I did not try anyone new for a long time.

Red Kilt
12-23-16, 10:15
<SNIP>
This thread would be much better if actual field experience reports dominated it, but most guys have been scared away that might have posted a positive recommendation. I plan to visit Bkk soon and, as usual, I will visit Annie's again.

Why can't guys just give an objective but descriptive report about what happened; what the girl provided; her attitude, the room and surroundings and the level of satisfaction.

Ratings of individual girls are so variable as to be useless.

I will not take much notice in my pre-planning of guys discussing how a girl looks since this is VERY subjective and I will make up my own mind from the selection in front of me. One guy sees chubby or stretch marks and another only looks at the face or boobs or ass or whatever.

Wander Luster
12-23-16, 21:52
Some general comments, not necessarily specific to Annies.

Fortunately Dr. BJ does not know me, so I can write what I like, and I try not to know management too well. Gop and Aey know me a little but certainly not my real name.

I guess by "outing" you are referring to ISG handle becoming known. One former Annies girl became aware of my handle due to another ISGer reading the detail of my report to her and I was too specific.

Yea, I think my offline behavior could be matched with what I write here.




That is why I like nudie bars. See the body in great detail before choosing. Never get a dud body from there. Dick scared is the big danger.

I'm no BKK pro, as most on here. Not sure where it's truly nude. I was impressed by some of the dancers on Soi Cowboy last week: wearing nothing. Guees they pay good bribes.

Don't see that at Nana much.



So you picked the wrong girl. Nothing too unusual. I am surprised you needed to choose a girl out of just 3. I would have moved on, if no one particularly appealed.

You could have gone down the road a bit and looked in Darling. Not good idea to go to soapies in "off" hours. I always strongly recommend arriving between 5 PM and 8 PM, no later than 9 PM, unless you have a booking. Sometimes I do make a booking if know the girl's name and number.

I never understand why guys have a poor experience and then write they will never return to a place. Its like throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Each can do whatever they choose of course.

Just I am not writing "Never Return".
There were 15 girls and 3 were "ok," but my choice from those 3 ok turned out to be worst ever p4 p of at least 30 in past. That's enough to not go back when ALL other massage places were great for me.

Franciscass
12-24-16, 08:56
Yes most guys do not post here any more as fear Francis' Ass. You think members of this forum are afraid to post because of what I or anybody else might say. This is grossly insulting to the both the intelligence and character of ISG members. What I have pointed out on this tread is the shameless shilling that goes on by its management no more no less. Your reason for supporting this shop and its Soi 7 affiliates over the years I will to leave to these same members to judge for themselves.

Happy Holidays.

Syzygies
12-24-16, 14:31
You think members of this forum are afraid to post because of what I or anybody else might say. This is grossly insulting to the both the intelligence and character of ISG members. What I have pointed out on this tread is the shameless shilling that goes on by its management no more no less. Your reason for supporting this shop and its Soi 7 affiliates over the years I will to leave to these same members to judge for themselves.

Happy Holidays.It should be well known that I don't support Annies or Dr. BJ shops in any special way, other than having been a customer on occasions. I do support the right of any honest members to post a positive report without suffering the loads of shit you dump on them, not including those who work for the businesses. I am obviously aware of Dr BJ working for Annies and clearly would be better for him not to post here. I don't recall who the other shills might be, and not very interested either. Any one with a wide range of posts on different threads has a right to post, which almost excludes yourself. I don't recall any positive reports from you on anything much and a large portion of your posts being in this thread, showing considerable negative bias.

You are clearly the biased one. Not me. If you can turn over a new leaf, and leave some positive posts alone, without dumping shit, I would be very surprised.

Yes I do believe ISG members do not want the grief involved from posting a positive girl report here, they could be accused of being shills for a start.

Member #4591
12-24-16, 17:26
You think members of this forum are afraid to post because of what I or anybody else might say. This is grossly insulting to the both the intelligence and character of ISG members. What I have pointed out on this tread is the shameless shilling that goes on by its management no more no less. Your reason for supporting this shop and its Soi 7 affiliates over the years I will to leave to these same members to judge for themselves.

Happy Holidays.I beg to differ. Syzgies is the last person that would support Annies in the way you are suggesting. He just looks at things in a slightly different way than others, a little less in your face. Me on the other hand, have no problem calling out Dr. BJ for his blatant shills. The difference between you and me however is the contributions we make to this forum. Like I said before, post some good field reports and maybe the members will respect you more. They don't have to like you or even like your posts, but your credibility would go up ten fold.

Bad Duck
01-08-17, 14:17
I'm planning out my first trip to BKK and was scouting around plus RTFF. I noticed that Annies and Wood have the same website design. Is this because they are owned by the same prop?

Syzygies
01-09-17, 02:23
I'm planning out my first trip to BKK and was scouting around plus RTFF. I noticed that Annies and Wood have the same website design. Is this because they are owned by the same prop?Ha Ha. Officially owned by different companies, according to someone, but we can guess similar major shareholders. The big boss seems to remain the same. Very closely affiliated.

Crocodilexp
01-09-17, 11:45
I am a big fan of Blowjobs, being as they are quick effortless and cheap. I have gone to almost all the Bolowjob bars in Bangkok and a few in Pattaya too.

Wood Bar: 700 for Blowjob from a "Nurse" (please read Fugly. Kept intentionally) and 1000 Bahts for a "Consultant" (who are skilled at their job). Then there is the special room with sex for 3000 (2 hours limit) (that is what the ladies told me). Girl's attitude: both girls that I took wanted 500 baht for opening their top, which I denied.

My opinion: SOM's Haven is way better in every category. I particularly enjoy the 1 Hours - 1700 Bahts. Unlimited times sex in their special room.

Great review!

I've only been to Dr BJ (Wood Bar) twice, and always had a feeling that there's a bit of a ripoff vibe, or at the very least not relaxing. The only place where I once did not even manage to finish.

Som's Haven is the opposite, I enjoy hanging out downstairs and watching the girls come and go, before I pick one for a session. One thing I dislike is 30 min time limit. I'd never actually take more time (they're skilled and a 20 min BBBJ is plenty long), but it just seems like too tight a limit, in case we happen to click and want a little more, you might be forced to pay double. Reminds me of awful low-end pump-and-dump brothels. Psychologically, a 45 min limit would be much better. As for the 1700 baht for 60 min, it's fine, but again, the time limit is a bit psychologically tight (I might manage to come twice, but then I may not. I don't care for that sort of anxiety). Allowing 90 min would have been a much better deal.

What's your take on Star of Light? I like the public nature of it. Do any other places offer that?

Syzygies
01-09-17, 13:58
Great review!

I've only been to Dr BJ (Wood Bar) twice, and always had a feeling that there's a bit of a ripoff vibe, or at the very least not relaxing. The only place where I once did not even manage to finish.

Som's Haven is the opposite, I enjoy hanging out downstairs and watching the girls come and go, before I pick one for a session. One thing I dislike is 30 min time limit. I'd never actually take more time (they're skilled and a 20 min BBBJ is plenty long), but it just seems like too tight a limit, in case we happen to click and want a little more, you might be forced to pay double. Reminds me of awful low-end pump-and-dump brothels. Psychologically, a 45 min limit would be much better. As for the 1700 baht for 60 min, it's fine, but again, the time limit is a bit psychologically tight (I might manage to come twice, but then I may not. I don't care for that sort of anxiety). Allowing 90 min would have been a much better deal.

What's your take on Star of Light? I like the public nature of it. Do any other places offer that?With all these BJ places, it can be a case of finding a girl that appeals. Never had a girl at Soms, years since found a doable girl at Sol, last Dr. BJ girl was disappointing (wrong choice) just had a tit job done and still bandaged, Anne left Loli-tas which leaves me with nothing. However look in all of them to see what can find. I don't know if any place still has BJ in public. I did fuck a girl in public bar years ago at SOL.

You get what you pay for re time limit. I always paid more to get more like FS.

Franciscass
01-10-17, 16:25
I'm planning out my first trip to BKK and was scouting around plus RTFF. I noticed that Annies and Wood have the same website design. Is this because they are owned by the same prop?The good doctor have gone to great trouble to explain time and again that there is no connection. Coincidences such as using similar formats in online marketing, routinely rotating staff and being seen onsite managing both is explained as just friends helping each other and if you believe that I've got a bridge on the Chao Phraya to sell you.

Farape
03-08-17, 16:31
After giving Annies a miss for at least 2 years (dropped in two or three times but the line-up was everything else than appealing). Today the line up still was nothing to write home about unless you are more inclined towards the more mature type talent. But there was one younger (turned out to be 22) talent with a sweet smile with an average body that I decided to give a try. All in all the experience was a bit mixed but ultimately satisfying: Annies used to benefit from from friendly and attentive management staff, now seems none of the former are around. The atmosphere is far less friendly, mechanical without a smile. The girl (#31 - she is not listed on the web), however was pretty good. While she was in-experienced in the tub and also her massage skills were rather average she had a number of major positives: Skills on the soapie mat, a very thorough no-hands BBJ with CIM and a memorable FJ to top off the experience.

So my verdict is that it has become more difficult to get a good (looks wise) provider at Annies, from a service perspective the Talents still excel in what are the most important skills in the room.

Syzygies
03-10-17, 19:28
After giving Annies a miss for at least 2 years (dropped in two or three times but the line-up was everything else than appealing). Today the line up still was nothing to write home about unless you are more inclined towards the more mature type talent. But there was one younger (turned out to be 22) talent with a sweet smile with an average body that I decided to give a try. All in all the experience was a bit mixed but ultimately satisfying: Annies used to benefit from from friendly and attentive management staff, now seems none of the former are around. The atmosphere is far less friendly, mechanical without a smile. The girl (#31 - she is not listed on the web), however was pretty good. While she was in-experienced in the tub and also her massage skills were rather average she had a number of major positives: Skills on the soapie mat, a very thorough no-hands BBJ with CIM and a memorable FJ to top off the experience.

So my verdict is that it has become more difficult to get a good (looks wise) provider at Annies, from a service perspective the Talents still excel in what are the most important skills in the room.I believe this number has been reported on before by several and always got good reviews. She used to appear on web site too unless number has changed to a new girl.

I recall seeing 31 in line up but I did not try her over a year ago.

As for most MPs, finding a girl that appeals can be tough.

Member #4591
03-23-17, 08:57
I recently learned a few things which I think are worth sharing with the members. A few of us have been pretty rough and hard on Dr. BJ for reviewing his own ladies at both his establishments. There is no way that this could come out in a good way. Either the girls would overperform because he's the boss, or he would exaggerate a review to help the business and the girl out. For the newbies, we call this a shill. In most cases, the session would never have taken place.

Now I do have accurate information that Dr. BJ does session with ladies at both Annie's and Chrome bar. Now that brings a little more credibility to his posts, however saying to the membership that he is not an employee, owner, or share holder at either one of these places is where I have the big problem.

In my opinion, the owner, share holder, manager or staff, should refrain from reviewing the girls he works with to avoid any conflict of interest. This will hurt more than help his business.

Therefore, I would like to apologize to Dr. BJ for being overly critical of his actions. I do believe his reviews in the end but firmly stick to my guns about him refraining from doing so due to a conflict of interest.

When I'm truly wrong, I will admit it!

Syzygies
03-23-17, 10:53
Now I do have accurate information that Dr. BJ does session with ladies at both Annie's and Chrome bar. Now that brings a little more credibility to his posts, however saying to the membership that he is not an employee, owner, or share holder at either one of these places is where I have the big problem.
I was never that critical, since I was satisfied he did real sessions. He was very ill advised to post, though, being associated with the establishments, being an extreme optimist and attracting all the shit dumpers.

A girl he scored a 10 for looks, could have been a 6 for me, in some cases. Personal taste with me liking skinny, of course.

I do recall his report of No. 14 was accurate and fair, at the time. However I always take reports from extreme optimists with a grain of salt.

Unfortunately, any positive report whatsoever, has attracted the shit dumping from the well known antagonist on this thread. Many possible honest posters would have been scared off.

Personally, I have not visited Annies for several months, nor the BJ shops, so don't have any up to date info.

EihTooms
03-23-17, 12:20
I recently learned a few things which I think are worth sharing with the members. A few of us have been pretty rough and hard on Dr. BJ for reviewing his own ladies at both his establishments. There is no way that this could come out in a good way. Either the girls would overperform because he's the boss, or he would exaggerate a review to help the business and the girl out. For the newbies, we call this a shill. In most cases, the session would never have taken place.

Now I do have accurate information that Dr. BJ does session with ladies at both Annie's and Chrome bar. Now that brings a little more credibility to his posts, however saying to the membership that he is not an employee, owner, or share holder at either one of these places is where I have the big problem.

In my opinion, the owner, share holder, manager or staff, should refrain from reviewing the girls he works with to avoid any conflict of interest. This will hurt more than help his business.

Therefore, I would like to apologize to Dr. BJ for being overly critical of his actions. I do believe his reviews in the end but firmly stick to my guns about him refraining from doing so due to a conflict of interest.

When I'm truly wrong, I will admit it!But how does the fact that you are now convinced that he actually does session with his own ladies change the reality that either the girls will overperform for the boss in ways no ordinary customer would likely enjoy or he would overstate their performance for self-serving business reasons in any way lend more credibility to his reviews in your mind?

Syzygies
03-23-17, 12:50
But how does the fact that you are now convinced that he actually does session with his own ladies change the reality that either the girls will overperform for the boss in ways no ordinary customer would likely enjoy or he would overstate their performance for self-serving business reasons in any way lend more credibility to his reviews in your mind?All experience posts are just stories, just that some posters may have more credibility than others. Lets not be too serious about knowing the truth, other than for posts of absolutely straight facts.

Anyone could have motives for enhancing the truth. We bear that in mind.

I do of course support the view that Dr. BJ is unwise to post about his associated establishments.

EihTooms
03-23-17, 19:33
All experience posts are just stories, just that some posters may have more credibility than others. Lets not be too serious about knowing the truth, other than for posts of absolutely straight facts.

Anyone could have motives for enhancing the truth. We bear that in mind.

I do of course support the view that Dr. BJ is unwise to post about his associated establishments.Granted. But I feel the same way about any and all reviews or so-called Field Reports regardless who is doing the reporting. I was just wondering what would make BKKdog disregard those two very compelling reasons that he himself pointed out for not putting credence into any bar investor or bar business associate's "review" of his own girls' P4 P performance simply because now he knows or heard from a reliable source that the guy does indeed session with his bar business' girls after all. Those two very good reasons not to put credence in such a person's reports of his own girls don't disappear or lessen simply because he is now known to actually session with the girls he has reported on, do they? Why would they?

Franciscass
03-24-17, 03:21
Granted. But I feel the same way about any and all reviews or so-called Field Reports regardless who is doing the reporting. I was just wondering what would make BKKdog disregard those two very compelling reasons that he himself pointed out for not putting credence into any bar investor or bar business associate's "review" of his own girls' P4 P performance simply because now he knows or heard from a reliable source that the guy does indeed session with his bar business' girls after all. Those two very good reasons not to put credence in such a person's reports of his own girls don't disappear or lessen simply because he is now known to actually session with the girls he has reported on, do they? Why would they?I have to admit that I was also somewhat perplexed by dog's reasoning and more so by his accompanying apology. More so because if I remember correctly his original issue was about the false claims that there is no connection between the Soi 7/1 shops and Annie's, not about posting on sessions with the staff.

Member #4591
03-24-17, 04:02
Before I never believed Dr. BJ had any sessions with his girls and they were just blatant shills. I was perfectly clear in saying that he should still not review any of his ladies. It was easy to understand. I will leave it up to you guys if you want to debate about my statement but I did feel he deserved an apology.

EihTooms
03-24-17, 04:21
Before I never believed Dr. BJ had any sessions with his girls and they were just blatant shills. I was perfectly clear in saying that he should still not review any of his ladies. It was easy to understand.I read that. I was just wondering why knowing such a thing "brings a little more credibility to his posts" if it doesn't in any way change those two very good reasons you cited for why a review from someone in that position shouldn't be believed; "Either the girls would overperform because he's the boss, or he would exaggerate a review to help the business and the girl out. For the newbies, we call this a shill. In most cases, the session would never have taken place. "

I guess I just don't see how learning that he actually does session with his girls makes him less of a shill in his reviews and didn't see that addressed in your apology to him here. IMO, a bar owner, bar investor, bar supervisor or whatever he is sessioning with one of girls is no closer to what an ordinary customer would experience than if he was reviewing his live-in girlfriend's performance of last night or if he never even met the girls he was reviewing.

Member #4591
04-18-17, 16:00
Ha ha. Let me try to think of some real Dog for you to try. LOL Just kidding. More seriously would like to know if Can Cam has any pretty girls these days. They "May" be still away for Songkran holidays. I did not make the 20 minutes cut off. However please let us know how line ups look in the Soi after your session.

http://cancam-massage.com/gals/profile.php?gal_dir=109Thanks for the offer. I walked around and taxied around Sukhumvit this afternoon trying to find a decent looker and was not successful. I checked Soi 24/1, Snow White, Soi 22, Soi 23, Bamboo, and Chrome Bar. It seems the ladies haven't all returned from their Songkran holiday.

Anyways, I ended up at Annie's. A strong line up of about 10 girls was present at about 3:30 PM. The usual bar stool computer working foreigner was still sitting at the same spot at the bar. What does he do all day? LOL. Anyways the 10 girl lineup was just dismal. Only 2 ladies were worth my time. I was forced to choose between the white skinned Tomb boy with a killer body or number 32. In my opinion, Tom Boys are Tom Boys for a reason. They don't like men, so I chose number 32.

She had a really nice shape to her with her black dress and heals. Her skin is not white like I normally like but she had a nice look about her. Long hair and those coloured braces all the Thai girls like. My only complaint were her A cup tits with a little sag. She has a see section scar but not too noticeable. Firm belly with a sexy belly ring. She's only one month on the job as she stated.

I was overly tired from my afternoon hunting so my bath session was longer for me to relax. Sex was really good in multiple positions but the best was doggy with that nice firm round ass. She is 25 years old and finds it hard to go more than 20-30 minutes. She will learn soon that that is not acceptable to most foreigners. I think she will conform as she gets more experience.

Another little annoying thing was her immature sex noises that were obviously fake. She probably watched some porn to help her learn her job. BBBJ was doing event but not over the top.

Looks: 7/10.

Body: 7/10.

Service: 7/10.

Reappeat: No.

Will not repeat because the lineup at Annie's these days is bleak. It was just my last resort before heading to the office at Siam. For 2,500 Baht, there are much better options in the Suk area. One interesting point is Annie's has reduced the 2 hour session to 90 minutes. The 2 hour hour session for 2,500 Baht was what kept me interested but now I will never return. As you all know, I'm a big tipper if the session is great so it not really about the money but the principal. Annie's obviously is not making the same money as before so they go and reduce the time per session. This is a Thai way of thinking and I'm surprised with foreign ownership, management, or involvement, whatever you want to call it, they are asking the customernto pay.

If we compare Snow White, Tulip, Mango and a few others, it's now a no brainer. Annie's can take their 30 minutes and bleak lineup and stick it where the sun don't shine. LOL.

Sunlover2
04-18-17, 16:42
Anyways, I ended up at Annie's. A strong line up of about 10 girls was present at about 3:30 PM. The usual bar stool computer working foreigner was still sitting at the same spot at the bar. What does he do all day?He is part of 'Team Aye' and answers the website emails. So all the punters who are confessing their deep desires and think they are communicating with Aye are actually providing some bloke his jollies. Both funny and sad.


One interesting point is Annie's has reduced the 2 hour session to 90 minutes. The 2 hour hour session for 2,500 Baht was what kept me interested but now I will never return.Annie's ladies are notorious for shorting tourist punters on time. Might as well make it official. And soon 90 minutes scheduled will be more like 75 minutes actual wait and see.

SL.

Member #4591
04-18-17, 16:46
He is part of 'Team Aye' and answers the website emails. So all the punters who are confessing their deep desires and think they are communicating with Aye are actually providing some bloke his jollies. Both funny and sad.

Annie's ladies are notorious for shorting tourist punters on time. Might as well make it official. And soon 90 minutes scheduled will be more like 75 minutes actual wait and see.

SL.I need to clarify. I was told by the staff showing me the lineup that the time was 90 minutes and no longer 2 hours. The girl in no way short changed me.

Syzygies
04-18-17, 18:40
If we compare Snow White, Tulip, Mango and a few others, it's now a no brainer. Annie's can take their 30 minutes and bleak lineup and stick it where the sun don't shine. LOL.Ha ha. The correct reponse to a poor line up is usually, to leave. You must have been desperate. If you refer to little No. 4 as the Tom Boy, then she does not have white skin, rather dark, but seems to like dick quite well as well as pussy, and seems to be orgasmic with guys. Don't ask me to explain why. Dresses and walks like a boy on the street but certainly can change into a total woman on the bed. Generally rated a very good performer. Perhaps not that one.

I few years ago I had a mail or two from the Aey team, in relation to booking a girl. The English was not good enough for me to believe that the Farang guy wrote it, but I certainly don't know exactly who wrote it, and it did not matter. It was just a booking.

I agree that Aey would be too busy to be answering lots of emails these days.

Member #4591
04-18-17, 19:24
Ha ha. The correct reponse to a poor line up is usually, to leave. You must have been desperate. If you refer to little No. 4 as the Tom Boy, then she does not have white skin, rather dark, but seems to like dick quite well as well as pussy, and seems to be orgasmic with guys. Don't ask me to explain why. Dresses and walks like a boy on the street but certainly can change into a total woman on the bed. Generally rated a very good performer. Perhaps not that one.

I few years ago I had a mail or two from the Aey team, in relation to booking a girl. The English was not good enough for me to believe that the Farang guy wrote it, but I certainly don't know exactly who wrote it, and it did not matter. It was just a booking.

I agree that Aey would be too busy to be answering lots of emails these days.Nope. She was a new one, not number 4.

Syzygies
04-18-17, 22:30
Nope. She was a new one, not number 4.I think I have done No. 4 before but not a tomboy. I should have said No. 14, but probably wasn't her either. I see there are others with short hair like No. 6.

Come to think of it, a tomboy type of girl may like to play a dominant role with other girls, but at least she has a real pussy that works well. She can enjoy a good DATY, regardless of the looks of the perpetrator, I suspect much like some guys can enjoy a good BJ from a LB (not me). No. 14 Pheung, was quite happy to take a dominant role and ride me cowgirl style LOL. Reminded me of Halle berry with her short hair and full tits. It's a long while since I last visited.

No. 14 and one of her Annies girlfriends could make a really good threesome some day, for those looking for some real lesbian/bisexual action in a threesome. Seems to kiss guys OK as well. Probably does not go for very aggressive type of guys at a guess.

Member #4591
04-20-17, 01:50
I think I have done No. 4 before but not a tomboy. I should have said No. 14, but probably wasn't her either. I see there are others with short hair like No. 6.

Come to think of it, a tomboy type of girl may like to play a dominant role with other girls, but at least she has a real pussy that works well. She can enjoy a good DATY, regardless of the looks of the perpetrator, I suspect much like some guys can enjoy a good BJ from a LB (not me). No. 14 Pheung, was quite happy to take a dominant role and ride me cowgirl style LOL. Reminded me of Halle berry with her short hair and full tits. It's a long while since I last visited.

No. 14 and one of her Annies girlfriends could make a really good threesome some day, for those looking for some real lesbian/bisexual action in a threesome. Seems to kiss guys OK as well. Probably does not go for very aggressive type of guys at a guess.I've checked their website and it was number 6 I was suggested to take by the female staff member showing me the line up.

Greg Howe
06-30-17, 17:28
Tonight, after the bathtub bit, when we went to the bed, she stopped to speak to some of the other staff in the hall. She then put on her clothes and wanted to continue the massage. She told me there were police there. So I let her continue, thinking that with another hour left, we'd be able to get on with it after a period of time. So after she'd finished the leg massage part she offered to go with a BJ but wasn't going FS. Eventually I came to the realisation that this wasn't going to end the way I wanted it to. She wasn't able to speak English very well but did manage to say that she'd go double tomorrow if I came back.

The guy downstairs had rung the guest arrival buzzer several times during that period and, when I left, there didn't seem to be anything unusual going on at all. Girls sitting around in the fishbowl, the computer farang working away at the end of the bar, the guy stationed downstairs. Didn't see any other customers though. I'd like to give the girl the benefit of the doubt as she was quite friendly and playful until she told me the police story.

Is Annie's being targeted now?

Member #4591
06-30-17, 20:45
Tonight, after the bathtub bit, when we went to the bed, she stopped to speak to some of the other staff in the hall. She then put on her clothes and wanted to continue the massage. She told me there were police there. So I let her continue, thinking that with another hour left, we'd be able to get on with it after a period of time. So after she'd finished the leg massage part she offered to go with a BJ but wasn't going FS. Eventually I came to the realisation that this wasn't going to end the way I wanted it to. She wasn't able to speak English very well but did manage to say that she'd go double tomorrow if I came back.

The guy downstairs had rung the guest arrival buzzer several times during that period and, when I left, there didn't seem to be anything unusual going on at all. Girls sitting around in the fishbowl, the computer farang working away at the end of the bar, the guy stationed downstairs. Didn't see any other customers though. I'd like to give the girl the benefit of the doubt as she was quite friendly and playful until she told me the police story.

Is Annie's being targeted now?2 simple questions. Number 1. Why didn't you stop the session, get dressed, and get your money back? Number 2. Why didn't you go to speak with the so called computer farang working away at the end of the bar and talk with him to get the real story? This experience was completely your fault. You should have acted on this but now it's too late. Dr. BJ has been an absent poster for a while due to criticism for reviewing his own ladies so I doubt he will chime in. Service at Annie's has been on the decline for some time. I myself have visited there recently so I'm not blowing smoke up your ass. If all this was true, they should have talked with you on your way out to clear up the situation. Another nail in their coffin.

Greg Howe
07-01-17, 05:11
2 simple questions. Number 1. Why didn't you stop the session, get dressed, and get your money back? Number 2. Why didn't you go to speak with the so called computer farang working away at the end of the bar and talk with him to get the real story? This experience was completely your fault. You should have acted on this but now it's too late. Dr. BJ has been an absent poster for a while due to criticism for reviewing his own ladies so I doubt he will chime in. Service at Annie's has been on the decline for some time. I myself have visited there recently so I'm not blowing smoke up your ass. If all this was true, they should have talked with you on your way out to clear up the situation. Another nail in their coffin.Well, several reasons for why I didn't stop the session immediately: she'd already done a few things during the bathtub part of the show so it wasn't like there hadn't been any action at all. So, in my experience, no place that I've ever been to would give money back for a session that had been partly completed; if the session returned to normal after a short break, it wouldn't have been a big deal to me; and, walking out into the front to ask for my money back for services that could not be rendered when police were allegedly there didn't sound like a good plan to me at the time.

You're right though, I should have asked the computer guy on the way out to tell me what was going on. I'd never actually seen him before. Just read about him on here. I haven't been there for some time as the quality of the line up has been declining significantly. I guess that was one last time. Too bad. I did enjoy my experiences there for most of the 10 years I was a customer there.

EihTooms
07-01-17, 05:26
Tonight, after the bathtub bit, when we went to the bed, she stopped to speak to some of the other staff in the hall. She then put on her clothes and wanted to continue the massage. She told me there were police there. So I let her continue, thinking that with another hour left, we'd be able to get on with it after a period of time. So after she'd finished the leg massage part she offered to go with a BJ but wasn't going FS. Eventually I came to the realisation that this wasn't going to end the way I wanted it to. She wasn't able to speak English very well but did manage to say that she'd go double tomorrow if I came back.

The guy downstairs had rung the guest arrival buzzer several times during that period and, when I left, there didn't seem to be anything unusual going on at all. Girls sitting around in the fishbowl, the computer farang working away at the end of the bar, the guy stationed downstairs. Didn't see any other customers though. I'd like to give the girl the benefit of the doubt as she was quite friendly and playful until she told me the police story.

Is Annie's being targeted now?There was a team of Immigration control cops on the hunt around Nana Plaza area last night. Saw them go into the Plaza about 8:30 PM or so, seemed to know exactly where they were headed, then came marching out with one (1) woman who looked to me more like a go-go bar drink server than a go-go bar dancer.

Around 11 PM, as I was walking with my takeout go-go girl from another bar, we passed Butterflies go-go bar on the third level and it was closed. She said the cops closed it down for violations (I couldn't get a clear answer from her on what kind of violations, she probably hadn't heard either) and that it would be closed for 3 months. This is coming from a go-go dancer, so take it with a huge grain of salt. But Butterflies was not in operation at 11 PM last night after some kind of raid by the authorities. And I suppose the lady I saw them escorting across Soi 4 to through Nana Hotel parking lot to their van or whatever was a mamasan or a manager.

My friend and I had also commented earlier in the evening that there were far fewer ladies than usual standing in front of Nana Hotel sign as late as 8-8:30PM, just prior to the time of the raid. Especially for a Saturday night. Then more came out after the raid. Had somebody gotten a heads up for a pending raid of some kind? Or maybe someone knows where those guys park their van, saw it and started to spread the word far and wide asap?

Franciscass
07-01-17, 10:18
2 simple questions. Number 1. Why didn't you stop the session, get dressed, and get your money back? Number 2. Why didn't you go to speak with the so called computer farang working away at the end of the bar and talk with him to get the real story? This experience was completely your fault. You should have acted on this but now it's too late. Dr. BJ has been an absent poster for a while due to criticism for reviewing his own ladies so I doubt he will chime in. Service at Annie's has been on the decline for some time. I myself have visited there recently so I'm not blowing smoke up your ass. If all this was true, they should have talked with you on your way out to clear up the situation. Another nail in their coffin.Dog without prejudice I submit you're being a tad unfair on Greg. OK neither you nor I would tolerate what happened and would have demanded an explanation with a view to being compensated in some way but that's because we're street wise and know the score. Perhaps he was just confused not knowing how to deal with a situation that was new to him. It happens.

My own guess was at some stage the management thought they may be the target of a visit and told the girls to keep their clothes on. If so not refunding customers who had paid their 2500 is a rip off.

As you say another example of the indifference of the good doc but don't rule out his working right now on some bullshit excuse. Remember his spin for the raids on the soi7/1 shops as being invitations to the police to check the girls for drugs and the subsequent shut down being for plumbing upgrades. Right.

My advice to Greg is to go back and ask the "farang on the computer" what happened and ask for either a refund or a repeat on the house with the same girl. Come on doc instead of working on your usual "marketing" efforts show some class for a change and make this offer online to Greg and anybody else who was out of pocket that night.

UsaInEurope
07-15-17, 08:38
I cruised over to Annies about noon. Wanted to get in early, was horny, and knock one out. Hoped that the environs were nicer than yesterday's at Kasalong.

There were about 10 girls in the fishbowl -- a couple real fatties. I typically like a curvier / thicker girl, but wow these were belly floppers. Anyway, I asked the mamasan who kisses (I like GFE more than PSE). So Maya stood up and I picked her. Super skinny -- her hair must have been half her weight, and my cock was thicker than her leg. And my cock isn't THAT big.

Anyway, Maya did the hand holding, arm around waist thing to the room. Nicer than Kasalong. Still pretty bare bones though. Tub was nice and big and clean. She had me lay on a mat- uhhhhhhhh gross -- and did the soapie body slide thing front and back. We kissed and made out a bit, and then moved to the tub. I swear just the head got in while she was sliding around. Was really close to insertion. I fingered her pussy and ass while she was reverse sliding in the tub then she asked if she could eat me. Um, yes!

Quite a bit worse of a BBBJ than at Kasalong. Teeth, didn't go down very far, lots of hand jerking. She did allow me to remove her hand so she only had to suck, and used that hand for a prostate massage. Nice touch!

We moved to the bed where she kept at it. She really tried to get me to cum while sucking but I wasn't going to do that. So I had to force the issue and really pounded her missionary and doggie. I don't think I fit all the way in (again, not huge, she's tiny) and could really feel the back of her vagina. Loved it. So tight and wet. Could feel the sex even w / a stupid rubber on.

Came in the rubber while inside her then got the shower off and send off treatment.

Looks: Super skinny, small breasts, great long hard nipples. Let me suck on them for a minute but not much longer than that. I really love boob play so that was disappointing.

Attitude: Said she's new there. Who knows. Was mechanical and no warmth or connection with her. YMMV. She did try hard and put effort into the sliding. Not bad, just not WOW like the Chinese slider I had last year.

Skills: BBBJ and she would have let me CIM. No idea about NQNS. Good one when she added the prostate massage (didn't lick down there) and removed her jerking hand.

Pussy: Trimmed, super tight.

Ass: Small but still a little bubble to grab on to.

Final verdict: She's fine, especially if you like super tiny Thai girls from Isaan. Didn't get her age.

Syzygies
07-17-17, 10:34
I cruised over to Annies about noon. Wanted to get in early, was horny, and knock one out. Hoped that the environs were nicer than yesterday's at Kasalong.

There were about 10 girls in the fishbowl -- a couple real fatties. I typically like a curvier / thicker girl, but wow these were belly floppers. Anyway, I asked the mamasan who kisses (I like GFE more than PSE). So Maya stood up and I picked her. Super skinny -- her hair must have been half her weight, and my cock was thicker than her leg. And my cock isn't THAT big.
I like skinny girls however the nose is a little broad for my taste.

If there was a pic of your cock and her leg, I am sure we could burst that bubble for you. Just kidding. I hate to see cock pictures. If you exaggerate too much, it just diminishes your overall credibility.

As for back of the vagina, it is very common for dick to crash into a sponge that the lady has inserted in her vagina that severely limits penetration. Another possibility is crashing into the uterus hanging down. Crashing in to the end of the vagina is also very possible. Best to start slowly to give her vagina time to stretch. Contrary to what Dan says, I don't believe foreplay stretches the vagina much in length compared to the dick pushing it gently. My girlfriend still needs to stretch quite a bit even after two orgasms from DATY to warm up. Fingers can help stretch the vagina width but won't be long enough to stretch the length very well (unless get a full hand in). Slow and steady does without full penetration at the beginning until she gets relaxed and into it.

Unfortunately dick scared type of girls, never get relaxed and into it, instead they tense up defeating the stretching mechanism somewhat.

You went too early for best line up, however she was as good looking as you could expect to get at Annies which is not known for stunners. A very experienced girl would probably perform better.

BionicMan
07-17-17, 20:08
Tonight, after the bathtub bit, when we went to the bed, she stopped to speak to some of the other staff in the hall. She then put on her clothes and wanted to continue the massage. She told me there were police there.

Is Annie's being targeted now?I think the target is to scam the farang.

You should have mentioned this to the mama San when leaving and if she hadn't much understanding call the farang at the computer.

BionicMan
07-17-17, 20:11
Well, several reasons for why I didn't stop the session immediately: she'd already done a few things during the bathtub part of the show so it wasn't like there hadn't been any action at all.

You're right though, I should have asked the computer guy on the way out to tell me what was going on. Too bad. I did enjoy my experiences there for most of the 10 years I was a customer there.Complaining or mentioning not much for your money back, the girl was smart to give a reduced service rather than no service, but to make clear customers are no idiots.

BionicMan
07-17-17, 20:17
There was a team of Immigration control cops on the hunt around Nana Plaza area last night. Saw them go into the Plaza about 8:30 PM or so, seemed to know exactly where they were headed, then came marching out with one (1) woman who looked to me more like a go-go bar drink server than a go-go bar dancer.

Around 11 PM, as I was walking with my takeout go-go girl from another bar, we passed Butterflies go-go bar on the third level and it was closed. She said the cops closed it down for violations (I couldn't get a clear answer from her on what kind of violations, she probably hadn't heard either) and that it would be closed for 3 months. This is coming from a go-go dancer, so take it with a huge grain of salt. But Butterflies was not in operation at 11 PM last night after some kind of raid by the authorities. And I suppose the lady I saw them escorting across Soi 4 to through Nana Hotel parking lot to their van or whatever was a mamasan or a manager.

My friend and I had also commented earlier in the evening that there were far fewer ladies than usual standing in front of Nana Hotel sign as late as 8-8:30PM, just prior to the time of the raid. Especially for a Saturday night. Then more came out after the raid. Had somebody gotten a heads up for a pending raid of some kind? Or maybe someone knows where those guys park their van, saw it and started to spread the word far and wide asap?Nice report, but seen the broadness of NEP, and how much a police raid can give from there, I don't think that annie's could be in the agenda. It is in soi 2, nearly not accessible from soi4, plenty of places in between NEP and annie's.

Even of the rumours of the raid (from your report it seeemed pretty much wel focused) arrived in Annie, nothing to worry about.

EihTooms
07-18-17, 02:03
Nice report, but seen the broadness of NEP, and how much a police raid can give from there, I don't think that annie's could be in the agenda. It is in soi 2, nearly not accessible from soi4, plenty of places in between NEP and annie's.

Even of the rumours of the raid (from your report it seeemed pretty much wel focused) arrived in Annie, nothing to worry about.I don't know if the raid effected anything at Annies that night. But the raiders don't pull up and park their paddy wagon on Soi 4, hop out and then patrol up and down Soi 4 in that way. That would destroy any potential element of surprise, everyone on Soi 4 watching them pull into the area and look for a place to set up camp. I think they park their van and set up camp somewhere on Soi 2 and then walk through a passage behind Nana Hotel's parking lot to access Nana Plaza and so on that way. Nobody on Soi 4 sees them until they emerge on foot right below the new Striker's Sports Bar overhead location, walk through the Nana Hotel parking lot and cross Soi 4 into Nana Plaza or wherever. Nobody on Soi 2 would see them on that course but for 2-3 stray taxi/tour touts and a Marriott Hotel doorman or two. And they don't stroll. They move quickly and with a purpose.

If it is true that they park and set up camp back there on or near Soi 2, then they would be in a position to hit Annies first and would have been able to do so that night, then walk back up Soi 2 until they got within proximity of Nana Plaza's location on the other side of the parking lot and forward march into further action from there.

There have been several reports of the raid that night and at least one arrest on sites like Stickman since I made my previous report about it.

Franciscass
07-18-17, 12:53
Greg is obviously a decent man and goes with the flow. Raids happen, it's an occupational hazard. Some owners are well connected and need not worry while others need to keep a look out. It seems pretty obvious that there was a possibility of a raid that night whether it was well founded or not is irrelevant. What is relevant is his companion responding to the possibility did not deliver even the basics of what he paid for and so he should have been compensated. He was not at Annies.

Hiete
08-07-17, 16:51
Anybody had a session with number 14 lately? Looking on their Facebook and website it seems that she's still working there. She's there on a daily basis? Any updates about her would be very much appreciated.

Member #4591
08-08-17, 15:10
Anybody had a session with number 14 lately? Looking on their Facebook and website it seems that she's still working there. She's there on a daily basis? Any updates about her would be very much appreciated.I would rate her about 6/10 in my books. There are better venues and choices out there.

Hiete
08-09-17, 15:38
I would rate her about 6/10 in my books. There are better venues and choices out there.Thanks Bkkdog. A 6 is good enough in my book but then again it depends on how you are rating her. I'll give her a try. The reason that I'm interested is due to the fact that I have been doing oilies only so far in BKK such as Tulip, Cherries and SW on my last trip.

I have been reading about The Lord and I'm tempted to go there but the price / risk / quality turns me off and I'm not really in the mood for gambling by picking a girl of my liking but providing poor service.

I haven't read any negative comments about #14 and I do hope there's more of a massage procedure involved than what I experienced in the oilies even though I understand that most of us don't really care about the massage bit.

#14 does attract me when I look at her pictures and knowing the fact that you relatively don't pay that much comparing with the high end soapies I think I should give her a try. Report will follow accordingly.

Paolo99
08-09-17, 18:00
#14 does attract me when I look at her pictures and knowing the fact that you relatively don't pay that much comparing with the high end soapies I think I should give her a try. Report will follow accordingly.If you like the look of number 14 and if you don't find her available, you should consider going to Addict massage and ask for the girl named "Smile" , she has a similar look than that girl but much prettier.

Franciscass
08-10-17, 05:23
#14 does attract me when I look at her pictures and knowing the fact that you relatively don't pay that much comparing with the high end soapies I think I should give her a try. Report will follow accordingly.Have a look before committing as pics are as with most sites heavily photo shopped and if she still rocks your boat I would say go for it. Because she has been discussed on the forum you never know she may be on notice from the farang management to up her game when selected in the hope that a positive review here will go some way to offsetting the poor press this place normally receives.

Lion55
08-10-17, 10:53
If you like the look of number 14 and if you don't find her available, you should consider going to Addict massage and ask for the girl named "Smile" , she has a similar look than that girl but much prettier.You might also consider #6. I sessioned with her a while back and had a good time. She loves DATY if you are into that.

Hiete
08-10-17, 15:53
Have a look before committing as pics are as with most sites heavily photo shopped and if she still rocks your boat I would say go for it. Because she has been discussed on the forum you never know she may be on notice from the farang management to up her game when selected in the hope that a positive review here will go some way to offsetting the poor press this place normally receives.Being in the "business" for some time now but mainly in Indonesia I understand that you can't rely on a picture only nor do I take it for granted that somebody else's experience is a guarantee for success.

I'm aware of the reputation of this joint. As I mentioned before I'm looking for a soapy which isn't excessively expensive and where you can have some soapy massage sensation before starting on the real thing. I don't even know that this is what I actually can expect in Annie's?!

I do believe that it's worthwhile to check reviews or advice of certain fellow mongers on this forum. I haven't been fooled so far by reading what I have read. There's always a first time of course.

I'm all ears in case you have personal Soapy favorites.

Thanks for the advice Franciscass. Always appreciated.

Hiete
08-10-17, 16:03
You might also consider #6. I sessioned with her a while back and had a good time. She loves DATY if you are into that.Thanks for the advice about #6 but she doesn't seem to me my kinda girl. To make it clear I don't have a specific type. I can have a good time with different type of women. Not in specific short haired females or tom boys. Actually I'm not even get easily attracted with this type of females but #14 does it for me.

Franciscass
08-11-17, 09:34
Being in the "business" for some time now but mainly in Indonesia I understand that you can't rely on a picture only nor do I take it for granted that somebody else's experience is a guarantee for success.

I'm aware of the reputation of this joint. As I mentioned before I'm looking for a soapy which isn't excessively expensive and where you can have some soapy massage sensation before starting on the real thing. I don't even know that this is what I actually can expect in Annie's?!

I do believe that it's worthwhile to check reviews or advice of certain fellow mongers on this forum. I haven't been fooled so far by reading what I have read. There's always a first time of course.

I'm all ears in case you have personal Soapy favorites.

Thanks for the advice Franciscass. Always appreciated.I'm totally with you on a getting in the mood with a preliminary sensual massage, unfortunately most girls working the oilies and soapies are not great in that department. Not sure why, possibly lack of training, perhaps they find it too tiring.

The so called soapie massage is usually a body to body on an uncomfortable ribbed rubber mattress which I usually skip and ask for similar with oil on the bed. Some times it's available sometimes not.

As to recommendations, sorry don't have. My last visit to a soapie was a while back at Chaophya 2 with an attractive MILF but didn't keep, name or number.

Good luck with number 14.

Syzygies
08-15-17, 06:07
I haven't read any negative comments about #14 and I do hope there's more of a massage procedure involved than what I experienced in the oilies even though I understand that most of us don't really care about the massage bit.

#14 does attract me when I look at her pictures and knowing the fact that you relatively don't pay that much comparing with the high end soapies I think I should give her a try. Report will follow accordingly.No. 14 Pheung is definitely one of the better looking girls and her pic was fairly accurate perhaps making her skin look lighter. Reminds me of Halle Berry (but quite short). I repeated her several times, so service was fine, but it was the looks that specially appealed to me. Slim curvy good figure and very nice natural tits. Even a Tomboy, she does not seem to dislike dick, DATY, etc. Kissed fine too, otherwise would not have repeated. She liked riding cowgirl of course. I would say she is bi-sexual most likely. A little bit wayward type perhaps. Better than prim and proper of course.

I have not visited Annies recently though. I don't like the rooms much. I don't tolerate cold aircon that well. Just a personal issue. I used to take No. 14 sometimes at another location.

I don't do sex with ladyboys. A bisexual Tom seems to be a better option as has nice tits and a nice pussy (and that really matters to me). Could be really great for a 3-some too I bet.

Franciscass
08-15-17, 12:51
Agree with you S, tits and a pussy are essential.

Lion55
08-16-17, 05:51
Agree with you S, tits and a pussy are essential.Yes, indeed the bare essentials.

Hiete
08-16-17, 12:12
I have not visited Annies recently though. I don't like the rooms much. I don't tolerate cold aircon that well. Just a personal issue. I used to take No. 14 sometimes at another location. Went yesterday twice to go and have a look that she's around. First time she wasn't around. Asking the second time where she is it seems that she was taken out. I looked at the other girls but nothing that caught my eye. Called them today twice and it seems that she's not working tonight. Anyway, I'm not giving up. It's dogged that does it!

In fact I have read some of your report regarding Pheung and your last one only motivates me more not to give up on her.

I'm having the same problem with those AC's. I don't like it cold but you sure can ask to increase the temperature, no?

Franciscass
08-16-17, 12:48
Went yesterday twice to go and have a look that she's around. First time she wasn't around. Asking the second time where she is it seems that she was taken out. I looked at the other girls but nothing that caught my eye. Called them today twice and it seems that she's not working tonight. Anyway, I'm not giving up. It's dogged that does it!

In fact I have read some of your report regarding Pheung and your last one only motivates me more not to give up on her.

I'm having the same problem with those AC's. I don't like it cold but you sure can ask to increase the temperature, no?This happens a lot. The girl is no longer working at the shop, is on a long break perhaps gone home or overseas or maybe found a sponsor but the shop's management continue to bullshit her absence. If you do manage to track her down I hope your perseverance is justified.

Playboy2001
08-16-17, 14:06
Went yesterday twice to go and have a look that she's around. First time she wasn't around. Asking the second time where she is it seems that she was taken out. I looked at the other girls but nothing that caught my eye. Called them today twice and it seems that she's not working tonight. Anyway, I'm not giving up. It's dogged that does it!

In fact I have read some of your report regarding Pheung and your last one only motivates me more not to give up on her.

I'm having the same problem with those AC's. I don't like it cold but you sure can ask to increase the temperature, no?Annies better times have gone and no more good girls.

Syzygies
08-17-17, 08:56
Went yesterday twice to go and have a look that she's around. First time she wasn't around. Asking the second time where she is it seems that she was taken out. I looked at the other girls but nothing that caught my eye. Called them today twice and it seems that she's not working tonight. Anyway, I'm not giving up. It's dogged that does it!

In fact I have read some of your report regarding Pheung and your last one only motivates me more not to give up on her.

I'm having the same problem with those AC's. I don't like it cold but you sure can ask to increase the temperature, no?Pheung (means Honeybee) looked good and performed pretty good for me, meaning we jelled pretty well. I could not find faults with her figure other than being quite short. Very nice real tits. It is no guarantee for others, and I have heard rumours of wayward behaviour. Girls can be a 50/50 punt for me depending on wether they like my dick or not, and not every guy is the same. As long as the short hair appeals and she likes you. Outside of Annies she dresses and walks like young boy, no makeup. LOL On the bed, she is all woman. Very curvy. I agree there were very few if any bad reports about Pheung No. 14, that I read. I would like to try her in a threesome some time. She could state which girls she has the hots for, and see if any of those fit my taste at all. No fatties for me.

Another girl Daeng 88 was OK for me, however I think she no longer works there (picked up a BF most likely). Another really good recent girl is also gone, and I don't even remember her number. Maybe Annies is on a downturn as the other poster wrote. Can't see Pheung quitting in a hurry though.

In Annies, I was almost always targeting a particular girl in the past or sometimes had two options. To avoid disappointment and wasted visit, I would usually ring to check if girl was there firstly, and 2nd if available, then make a booking. However this procedure maybe be better, for known girls.

This is not really an Annies comment. It applies to all MPs. If I want to try a new girl though, I rarely book a girl sight unseen, in case I get a rude shock when actually see the girl and is not as described.

Even a known girl can be unexpected! Girls change.

Funny thing happened at Mango. I heard that Prae had returned from long holiday absence so rang to book her, hoping she would be real horny. First time with her, months earlier, had been pretty good. When the girl arrived, I said no, I booked Prae. They explained to me it was Prae. She had put on so much weight on holidays that I could not even recognise her, at first. Face had become rather puffy. Looks no longer appealed. However I went through with the booking anyway based on the past experience. Unfortunately the repeat did not live up to the initial booking, really. So wasn't sure if she was inconsistent or I was. Perhaps she has lost all the weight by now and will be good again? LOL.

Lion55
08-17-17, 15:32
This happens a lot. The girl is no longer working at the shop, is on a long break perhaps gone home or overseas or maybe found a sponsor but the shop's management continue to bullshit her absence. If you do manage to track her down I hope your perseverance is justified.Somewhat on that note, does anyone know whereabouts of Care (former #16 at Annie's). It's been about a year since she left rather abruptly. Anyone know what happened or whether she has resurfaced at another shop?

Syzygies
08-19-17, 10:08
This happens a lot. The girl is no longer working at the shop, is on a long break perhaps gone home or overseas or maybe found a sponsor but the shop's management continue to bullshit her absence. If you do manage to track her down I hope your perseverance is justified.The management don't always know what happened to the girl, or whether she will return. Even the girl doesn't know. I know a girl who does not intend to return but that is not guaranteed. The shop probably is very unclear about her future. She has a BF who likely has no clue she ever worked at Annies.

Girls are not permitted to get BFs from shop customers. If they should do so, officially the girl buy out fee is very high. Obviously if a girls finds a man via this venue, she might not want to be honest about it. She would be blackbanned and never able to return. The shops have some very silly rules in the contract that seem to equate girls as saleable commodities, which makes no sense.

Once I spotted an Annies girl with her man on the BTS station On Nut. She did her best to avoid me seeing her, as probably was trying to be incognito. Obviously I won't name her.

Soroche
08-19-17, 11:44
Pheung (means Honeybee) looked good and performed pretty good for me, meaning we jelled pretty well. I could not find faults with her figure other than being quite short. Very nice real tits. It is no guarantee for others, and I have heard rumours of wayward behaviour. Girls can be a 50/50 punt for me depending on wether they like my dick or not, and not every guy is the same. As long as the short hair appeals and she likes you. Outside of Annies she dresses and walks like young boy, no makeup. LOL On the bed, she is all woman. Very curvy. I agree there were very few if any bad reports about Pheung No. 14, that I read. I would like to try her in a threesome some time. She could state which girls she has the hots for, and see if any of those fit my taste at all. No fatties for me.

Another girl Daeng 88 was OK for me, however I think she no longer works there (picked up a BF most likely). Another really good recent girl is also gone, and I don't even remember her number. Maybe Annies is on a downturn as the other poster wrote. Can't see Pheung quitting in a hurry though.

In Annies, I was almost always targeting a particular girl in the past or sometimes had two options. To avoid disappointment and wasted visit, I would usually ring to check if girl was there firstly, and 2nd if available, then make a booking. However this procedure maybe be better, for known girls..One of the ladies from Mango told me that Prae had an extended absence because of an unspecified illness and the changes that you saw in her were due to the side effects of the medicine she was taking. I haven't visited the shop in a while so I have no idea of what she looks like now.

Hiete
08-19-17, 12:35
The management don't always know what happened to the girl, or whether she will return. Even the girl doesn't know. I know a girl who does not intend to return but that is not guaranteed. The shop probably is very unclear about her future. She has a BF who likely has no clue she ever worked at Annies.Fransiscass might be right though. Called Annies up just now and "14 is not working today". Anyway, still in Thailand for a while. I'll keep on calling now and then.

Franciscass
08-20-17, 05:30
Fransiscass might be right though. Called Annies up just now and "14 is not working today". Anyway, still in Thailand for a while. I'll keep on calling now and then.It's a sign that a shop is badly managed if they don't know whether members of staff are still working there or not. Sorry don't buy the argument its not possible to know, they have her number and can ask her friends still working there. I believe they do know or could find out if they were interested.

For me it's more an indication of indifference towards customers shown clearly at this place by a recent post where the girl kept her clothes on during part of the session because of the prospect of a raid with no subsequent explanation offered or refund made by the management.

Also knowing full well your choice will not be there it's conceivably simply a ploy to get you coming back in the hope you'll pick somebody else from the lineup.

You are being smart by calling first and because it's entirely possible she could turn up tomorrow I say keep trying Hiete and good luck.

Syzygies
08-20-17, 08:19
Fransiscass might be right though. Called Annies up just now and "14 is not working today". Anyway, still in Thailand for a while. I'll keep on calling now and then.Annies was probably correct if they said No. 14 is not working today. Unlikely to be bullshit. That is how it goes. She will be back (95% chance but when?) When she is there, they can say she is available.

It's easy for guys here all the time, to keep checking on some girl from time to time, like monthly or weekly. I finally determined Prae at Mango had returned, as example.

If you are here for a short time, you need to have lots of alternatives. I could suggest to try Evita or Meree Soapies, or Ocean. I got lucky with some bargain price girls at Evita and Ocean.

I know a girl at Emmanuelle since many years. Yok B01 with nice big natural tits and quirky crooked smile. I wanted to do her again, for old times sake. She must be 30 YO by now. She has not been working, the last two or 3 times, I called. I just have to be patient and hope she will show up eventually. In the mean time, I have other options.

Franciscass
08-21-17, 03:23
I know a number of owners of massage shops mostly in Thonglor and they know barring unforeseen circumstances who will be working on any particular day.

Yes it's possible that they don't know exactly when a girl who for example has taken leave to go back home for a family emergency will return but she will let them know it won't be for say at least another week or that yes she will be back on a particular day.

A well run operation will convey that to an interested customer. They should then take his number and get back to him when they know on what day she is returning. Having him calling day after day is unnecessary and a pain in the ass.

So I don't believe it's as haphazard as girls turning up whenever they feel like it. In fact some shops policies are really quite strict with fines for being late, missing days even for their more popular girls.

Usually a customer who wants to take a girl away for an extended period has to make financial arrangements with the shop. She cannot suddenly vanish and turn up a week later telling the shop the buffalo was sick again.

GasolineFire
08-27-17, 09:37
Anybody had a session with number 14 lately? Looking on their Facebook and website it seems that she's still working there. She's there on a daily basis? Any updates about her would be very much appreciated.I went with her about a year ago, good service, amazing breasts, skin is darker in real life than in the photos. Really likes it on top, and very good with her hips. Had originally gone for No 10, who almost had me in love, still old photos of her on twitter form 2015, I had taken her twice over the previous 12 months, but she had disappeared and No 10 was a new girl, was very disappointed, but Number 14 soon eased my pain.

Member #4591
08-27-17, 17:16
I know a number of owners of massage shops mostly in Thonglor and they know barring unforeseen circumstances who will be working on any particular day.

Yes it's possible that they don't know exactly when a girl who for example has taken leave to go back home for a family emergency will return but she will let them know it won't be for say at least another week or that yes she will be back on a particular day.

A well run operation will convey that to an interested customer. They should then take his number and get back to him when they know on what day she is returning. Having him calling day after day is unnecessary and a pain in the ass.

So I don't believe it's as haphazard as girls turning up whenever they feel like it. In fact some shops policies are really quite strict with fines for being late, missing days even for their more popular girls.

Usually a customer who wants to take a girl away for an extended period has to make financial arrangements with the shop. She cannot suddenly vanish and turn up a week later telling the shop the buffalo was sick again.A year or so ago there was a real superstar working there, 19 years old. I had many sessions with her as well as others. Her photo was featured on their homepage and many advertisements. I'm lazy to check my old posts for her number but anyhow I will include her photo, they for sure know number 14 has left but they leave her photo on the site for one reason only. If her customers call or show up at the shop, they want the opportunity to switch you to another girl. If her photo was not on their site, you would never call or show up at the shop to book her. Common business practice. So guys, she's gone! Give it a few more weeks and her photo will be gone as well from the website, normally after about 2 months.

Syzygies
08-27-17, 17:28
A year or so ago there was a real superstar working there, 19 years old. I had many sessions with her as well as others. Her photo was featured on their homepage and many advertisements. I'm lazy to check my old posts for her number but anyhow I will include her photo, they for sure know number 14 has left but they leave her photo on the site for one reason only. If her customers call or show up at the shop, they want the opportunity to switch you to another girl. If her photo was not on their site, you would never call or show up at the shop to book her. Common business practice. So guys, she's gone! Give it a a few more weeks and her photo will be gone as well from the website, normally after about 2 months.I don't even need to expand the pic. Aor (pronounced Oar) was No. 24. A very good model type body. I did spend a few takeouts with her. I never saw her since she got implants. May have left with a BF or to have a baby or whatever. Don't know exactly, but No. 24 is long gone, significantly more than 1 year I would guess.

No. 14 Pheung, the tomboy with great body, rather short, and short hair is unlikely to have left Annies permanently IMHO. I did hear gossip, very slightly disturbing, about No. 14 no more than 3 months ago. I won't repeat because it would not be fair, and only gossip. She was still in Annies at the time. However have not heard any updates yet.

Member #4591
08-27-17, 17:44
No. 14 Pheung, the tomboy with great body, rather short, and short hair is unlikely to have left Annies permanently IMHO, however I will check the rumours with someone likely to have heard the gossip if possible, when I get a chance. I did hear gossip, very slightly disturbing, about No. 14 no more than 3 months ago. I won't repeat because it would not be fair, and only gossip. She was still in Annies at the time.If I recall, you and I posted about number 24 regarding the rumours I had heard about her, accept I had confirmed this rumour. I won't repaeat it though as it's all water under the bridge and it will spark up a useles conversation. Also Annie's kept saying she was only gone for a short time and would be back. At one point, they even gave a specific return date to keep the customers coming and calling for the bait and switch opportunity. However, we never heard from her again and I suspect the same will happen with this girl. By far they are not comparable in my books. Number 24 blows number 14 out of the water for looks, body, and service. I can't speak for anyone else but for me, it was anything and everything goes. It reminds me of the comical name of one of the Thailand porn sites, Every Holes a Go go.

Anyways, what makes you so sure she is not gone permanently? She's clearly a lesbian and prefers ladies. Or maybe the same thing happened to her as no. 24. Who knows.

Syzygies
08-28-17, 05:58
If I recall, you and I posted about number 24 regarding the rumours I had heard about her, accept I had confirmed this rumour. I won't repaeat it though as it's all water under the bridge and it will spark up a useles conversation. Also Annie's kept saying she was only gone for a short time and would be back. At one point, they even gave a specific return date to keep the customers coming and calling for the bait and switch opportunity. However, we never heard from her again and I suspect the same will happen with this girl. By far they are not comparable in my books. Number 24 blows number 14 out of the water for looks, body, and service. I can't speak for anyone else but for me, it was anything and everything goes. It reminds me of the comical name of one of the Thailand porn sites, Every Holes a Go go.

Anyways, what makes you so sure she is not gone permanently? She's clearly a lesbian and prefers ladies. Or maybe the same thing happened to her as no. 24. Who knows.I probably read your Aor report before, and forgot the details. LOL Not being overly concerned.

Pheung 14 is a Tom in style, but still able to be pretty, but believe she is still quite sexually responsive to men. She seems to love DATY and riding cowgirl in particular, and seems to get off.

I am not certain at all. Merely lack definitive info of a departure. If Pheung found a new GF or BF (suspect she is ambidextrous), that could be a problem. Could be fighting with some other Annies staff. It is just that I don't believe Pheung has been missing for that long. Could easily be a break, up country, recover from medical problem, etc. I doubt she would have a baby for example, but with Thai girls, who knows? If that were the case, maybe I would have heard the rumour 3 months back. Maybe not. I probably have not been in Annies for over a year, so previously info came from another girl, who may have missing Annies contact for a while. So quite willing to be proved wrong.

The default for me, is that a girl is may not be gone for good, unless there is a very good reason, or strong evidence/knowledge. If someone really knows something definite, then great.

Ixgzca
08-28-17, 07:04
If I recall, you and I posted about number 24 regarding the rumours I had heard about her, accept I had confirmed this rumour. I won't repaeat it though as it's all water under the bridge and it will spark up a useles conversation. Also Annie's kept saying she was only gone for a short time and would be back. At one point, they even gave a specific return date to keep the customers coming and calling for the bait and switch opportunity. However, we never heard from her again and I suspect the same will happen with this girl. By far they are not comparable in my books. Number 24 blows number 14 out of the water for looks, body, and service. I can't speak for anyone else but for me, it was anything and everything goes. It reminds me of the comical name of one of the Thailand porn sites, Every Holes a Go go.

Anyways, what makes you so sure she is not gone permanently? She's clearly a lesbian and prefers ladies. Or maybe the same thing happened to her as no. 24. Who knows.Aor is still around selling ass. Sad but true.

Syzygies
08-28-17, 07:29
Aor is still around selling ass. Sad but true.Don't be sad. She is still so young. I have never seem her implants. Any comments on the quality? Subtle job or hard coconut shells?

Does not make me sad if my old regulars still want to fuck me, even if they seemed to have retired for a while, or have alternate business now. Some are not totally bored by sex. One even suggested I should get a room in same building she lives in or nearby, to make it so easy to visit each other. LOL Crazy!

Up to her, if she is sad or not.

Member #4591
08-28-17, 07:32
Aor is still around selling ass. Sad but true.Interesting. Care to say where?

Ixgzca
08-28-17, 08:34
Interesting. Care to say where?I hope you're not looking to tempt fate.

Syzygies
08-28-17, 10:54
Interesting. Care to say where?If the girl has not paid the so called "Buy out fee", she maybe be working somewhere else secretly. Annies seems to think they almost "own" the girls. A concept very hard for us to understand. Obviously we all feel girls are free to work or not work wherever they please, without fearing some industry wide black ban.

Maybe Annies has some special help for girls starting out in desperate financial straights, and makes them sign a very tough contract.

I have heard of a guy paying some very large fee to take some girl out of Annies permanently, but I could never understand exactly why.

Franciscass
08-28-17, 15:02
The so called "take out fee" applies where there was an upfront payment usually to the family of the girl, a part or all of which is still due.

Even if it was to her personally and she absconded the debt will fall back on the family thus making it highly unlikely a girl would ever leave owing money.

Because I believe this practice is rare nowadays at least in the oilies around Bangkok if a customer falls for a girl, wants to make an honest woman out of her and is asked for a hefty "take out fee" IMHO it's likely to be a ruse in which the girl is a willing participant.

Member #4591
08-28-17, 15:37
Aor is still around selling ass. Sad but true.



Interesting. Care to say where?





I hope you're not looking to tempt fate.You know what. If you are so stubborn you don't want to say where a provider is working now then no need to even comment. I don't believe you have a clue. Thank you in advance but never mind.

Syzygies
08-28-17, 15:48
The so called "take out fee" applies where there was an upfront payment usually to the family of the girl, a part or all of which is still due.

Even if it was to her personally and she absconded the debt will fall back on the family thus making it highly unlikely a girl would ever leave owing money.

Because I believe this practice is rare nowadays at least in the oilies around Bangkok if a customer falls for a girl, wants to make an honest woman out of her and is asked for a hefty "take out fee" IMHO it's likely to be a ruse in which the girl is a willing participant.Unfortunately you are only guessing in the last part, and it does not fit with things I have heard. E. g. Have met a girl who claimed to have paid the buyout herself (I don't know if some guy helped her), so that she was free to leave the employ and come back any time she felt like it, as a "sideline" type worker. From then on she works as few days as she liked and sporadically. Not intended to be leaving completely, or perhaps leaving for a few months at a time. However paid a fee to get out the original contract requirements.

The shop would never have known for sure if she was coming back or not. She would not be obliged to inform them on anything about her personal circumstances. However she would still be forbidden from clandestine meetings with shop customers. Being caught doing that would be viewed as very serious contravention by the shop. That is the limit of my understanding.

Yet girls have been known to be seen with shop customers, and trying very hard not to be seen, perhaps just in case the girl still intended to return to work at the shop on occasion or certain circumstances. A girl that absconds with a customer, cannot be 100% sure that man is going to work out, right? He maybe just playing her, and ready to dump her any time.

I know nothing about the disappearance of No. 14 or the reason, only that it cannot be more than about 3 months max. So still could be temporary in my mind. If I had her contact number I could ask her. LOL I did not collect it. Being a Tom of sorts, she was never that important. I don't know if anyone knows how long she has been missing from Annies.

In Mango, Prae was gone for a few months and came back having put on a bit of weight. Not so surprising. What percentage of girls being missing for a while, are actually gone for good. Not so high, I am guessing.

Mimi was a model like girl I sessioned once or twice. First Annies girl I ever booked. Some guy apparently paid out her contract and she disappeared. However sometime later, maybe 2 or 3 years later she returned with sillies. I am guessing she no longer had a contract with strict requirements to meet. By that time, model like Aor was there and I had no interest to session Mimi again. I think she changed name as well.

Terwagne
08-28-17, 15:51
I must say that Aor was 1 in a 1000. I met her several times many years ago, mostly call-outs. Perfect body and great skills. Not very approachable though as conversation was always very limited. She must have made a lot of money because the demand was unlimited. Anybody who tried her wanted to repeat. Now we have no clue what made her tick. No idea how she is now after years of doing this job. Maybe she wasn't a candidate for a normal life. I am sure many would have sponsored her, and she would have met several rich dudes who would have taken her away from Annies. Anyway I wish her well. She gave me memorable nights.

Syzygies
08-28-17, 16:03
I must say that Aor was 1 in a 1000. I met her several times many years ago, mostly call-outs. Perfect body and great skills. Not very approachable though as conversation was always very limited. She must have made a lot of money because the demand was unlimited. Anybody who tried her wanted to repeat. Now we have no clue what made her tick. No idea how she is now after years of doing this job. Maybe she wasn't a candidate for a normal life. I am sure many would have sponsored her, and she would have met several rich dudes who would have taken her away from Annies. Anyway I wish her well. She gave me memorable nights.1 in a 1000 is going a bit far, but certainly exceptional for an Annies girl. Ha ha. She was only 19. I could converse well in Thai with her. So I don't even know what her English was like. I found her fun and good for a take out "date", fun to take to a dance club etc. , but was never really carried away with her (probably she was just too immature). Her nose was slightly big for me. LOL I did not even know she did anal. Still Thai girls never offer me that. I saw plenty relating to her family stuff on Facebook. However my interest waned, about the time she decided to get silicones. Maybe I needed more mature women, and perhaps that is what you implied re conversation.

Franciscass
08-29-17, 05:38
Nobody disputes girls take leave, happens all the time. Whether they return or not depends on circumstances, some do, some don't.

The issue at hand is whether management are relatively up to date on if and when. As I said I believe they know within a week or longer whether a girl is returning or not and they should convey this to interested customers and not have them needlessly calling or revisiting.

On the issue of take out fees of course if the girl owes money she has to pay up before she leaves. Small advances before payday or loans to meet unexpected emergencies happen however I am reliably informed this practice of owing hundreds of thousands in upfront bondage type contracts while not unheard of are extremely rare nowadays for girls working in the cities.

If a customer is asked to clear a large debt yes it can be for real but also and in my opinion more likely a ruse. Caveat Emptor.

Syzygies
08-30-17, 19:37
I forget if I mentioned this rumour before but was rumoured Pheung 14 had a new GF who was a LB. Yes you heard me correct.

This could have soured her realtionship with other girl working at Annies a lot. In that case I admit it is possible that Pheung is gone for long term.

I suppose it confirms also perhaps that Pheung was more than happy with dick. LOL.

Not the first time I had heard of a Tom and LB being a couple. Sort of reversal of roles.

I once took Pheung to Crazy House and she had a good time. Liked the naked girls.

Franciscass
08-31-17, 04:25
Still waiting on management to post the whereabouts of the elusive Pheung which I would bet the farm and the buffaloes they know.

Hiete
09-01-17, 13:18
Still waiting on management to post the whereabouts of the elusive Pheung which I would bet the farm and the buffaloes they know.Called them again but "not working today". For some reason I do believe that she will be coming back eventually. Every time I ask for #14 I hear the lady asking in the back whether she's around or not. I can't think that she's just doing this on purpose. I'm sure that she would say that "#14 not working here anymore" if that would really be the case?

Syzygies
09-01-17, 13:37
Called them again but "not working today". For some reason I do believe that she will be coming back eventually. Every time I ask for #14 I hear the lady asking in the back whether she's around or not. I can't think that she's just doing this on purpose. I'm sure that she would say that "#14 not working here anymore" if that would really be the case?Even if management know, some basic staff may not know anything much.

Franciscass
09-01-17, 18:49
Called them again but "not working today". For some reason I do believe that she will be coming back eventually. Every time I ask for #14 I hear the lady asking in the back whether she's around or not. I can't think that she's just doing this on purpose. I'm sure that she would say that "#14 not working here anymore" if that would really be the case?No its nothing on her part that's causing the uncertainty. Her circumstances have changed, they know it but don't give a fiddlers f**k on informing you.

Syzygies
10-06-17, 12:07
Called them again but "not working today". For some reason I do believe that she will be coming back eventually. Every time I ask for #14 I hear the lady asking in the back whether she's around or not. I can't think that she's just doing this on purpose. I'm sure that she would say that "#14 not working here anymore" if that would really be the case?Keep trying. She is working there some days (has been seen), but rumoured to be away sick quite often. The staff would not be asking around if No. 14 was no longer with Annies.

The staff cannot tell you everything, other than the girl is there or not there. Ring after 5PM.

There are not many girls there with an equally good body, maybe none (don't know any of recent girls).

Jiving
10-06-17, 16:54
Aor is still around selling ass. Sad but true.Any hints as to how we track her down?

Lion55
10-07-17, 00:37
I'm going to be visiting Bangkok next month for the first time in about a year and a half. Do any of the Annie's regulars have info on whereabouts of former #16. Has she emerged at another shop? If not do you think Aye would have her contact info?

Thanks in advance for any info.

Syzygies
10-07-17, 04:01
I'm going to be visiting Bangkok next month for the first time in about a year and a half. Do any of the Annie's regulars have info on whereabouts of former #16. Has she emerged at another shop? If not do you think Aye would have her contact info?

Thanks in advance for any info.Aey or Annies certainly won't give out contact details for ex staff. Don't be silly! They might tell you if she moved to the sister shops.

I don't have any info myself, but you could first check out the sister shops Wood and Chrome bar just in case the girl moved there. The links between the shops are as strong as ever.

Hiete
10-07-17, 04:23
Keep trying. She is working there some days (has been seen), but rumoured to be away sick quite often. The staff would not be asking around if No. 14 was no longer with Annies.
The staff cannot tell you everything, other than the girl is there or not there. Ring after 5PM.
There are not many girls there with an equally good body, maybe none (don't know any of recent girls).Unfortunately I'm not living in Thailand. Well. Thinking about it. It's fortunate that I don't live there. LOL.

I'll be back in a couple of months.

I keep on watching their Facebook updates but haven't seen her picture since she allegedly left. I still see her pic on their website as well so I keep on fooling myself that there's still some hope.

I know that those FB updates and website are no waterproof indicator that she's still around.

As I have mentioned before I think she might be still around. Otherwise I don't see the meaning why the ladies on the phone keep on asking that she's around or not.

I was there once when I asked for her and she wasn't around and there was no other lady that ticked any of my boxes.

Not that I'm desperate as there's plenty of other fish in the ocean but I would grab the opportunity if she would be there though.

Syzygies
10-07-17, 05:22
Unfortunately I'm not living in Thailand. Well. Thinking about it. It's fortunate that I don't live there. LOL.

I'll be back in a couple of months.

I keep on watching their Facebook updates but haven't seen her picture since she allegedly left. I still see her pic on their website as well so I keep on fooling myself that there's still some hope.

I know that those FB updates and website are no waterproof indicator that she's still around.
She has been there recently! When you come back you will probably be successful. Don't worry about it. Don't bother to research in the meantime. It won't be any great help, I suspect. Maybe the Instagram site is a better one to look for recent pics coming up (I did not look for some time though), but hard to be sure when they were taken. I could be wrong. I never use Facebook.

Lion55
10-07-17, 14:57
Aey or Annies certainly won't give out contact details for ex staff. Don't be silly! They might tell you if she moved to the sister shops.

I don't have any info myself, but you could first check out the sister shops Wood and Chrome bar just in case the girl moved there. The links between the shops are as strong as ever.Thanks for the tip. Much appreciated.

Lion55
10-11-17, 03:44
I noticed that websites for all of the Dr BJ establishments no longer show prices and have a message referencing some change in internet laws. On the other hand the websites of all of the other massage joints I looked at still show pricing. Anyone have any intelligence on what is going on?

Lion55
11-05-17, 01:21
Visited Annie's last night as I was in the neighborhood. The line-up was rather sparse; only about 10 SPs none of whom were stunners. I chose number 3 who was the cutest of those who stood up when mamasan asked which ones spoke English. Turned out to be a good choice. Typical Annie's routine to begin with; first pop in the tub via BBBJ which was well above average. Then massage which was ok but not great (fairly typical although you do sometimes her a very good massage from one of the Annie's SPs) She had me flip after only about ten minutes which normally isn't enough recovery time for me to be ready for round two. So after a few minutes of BBBJ which didn't do much for junior I told her it was my turn. She giggled and lay back as I instructed. She was really into the DATY, moaning and squirming and eventually arching her back to give me better access. She turned out to be multi-orgasmic, coming twice after about ten minutes of action. When I came up for air her previously mechanical demeanor changed completely. Instead of the closed lips peck kisses she given me earlier she was now full DFK. Noticing that junior was now at attention she asked what I wanted next. I told her to suit me up and she obliged FS was great, cycling through CG, mish, RCG and K9. She was definitely into things and did a lot of the work. After I popped she snuggled up to me and cuddled for about fifteen minutes. She was ready to go for a round three but I knew I wouldn't be up for it so we went for some shower play instead. All in all a nice session which, after a bit lackluster start ended up being near GFE. YMMV but worth a try.