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Stopped by Annie's last week after checking out their website, had a few girls in mind and settled on #50. Exactly as pictured on the site. In the fishtank, she seemed pretty non-enthusiastic so I was a little concerned, but turned out to be a non issue.
Went back later in the week after picking up some girls better looking girls from Nana plaza, but service at Annie's from #50 was far superior from the gogo's.
This time around took 2 girls, #50 again and asked her to choose a friend in hopes of getting someone she works well with. The facilities aren't as nice as some of the soapy places I've been to elsewhere (eg, Shanghai) , but #50 and #32 were far more enthusiastic than the other girls.
Good luck out there!I have met #50, and named Tina I believe, when she was eating with her friends including Aor. She seemed quite friendly and appealing to me too although have not tried in the room.
Tina Pic (http://www.anniesbangkok.com/images/an%20pics/new12-50/120621_tina_0006_resize.JPG)
I had almost a full day in Bangkok from 10am and 10pm between connecting flights. Here is a report.
I've been to Bangkok before, so knew my way around, but here are some tips for the first timer to Bangkok regarding transport: Bangkok has 3 different train systems BTS or skytrain, MRT or metro and SARL or the airport rail link the three of which are not very well connected, so it could be confusing at first. Search Google for general advice on how to navigate across these three systems. For the first timer with a short time in Bangkok: don't bother with taxis at all, take the express train from the airport to the city center either to Makkasan or Phaya Thai. The former provides better connectivity to MRT and the latter to BTS.
My first stop was at Annie's, second at Star of Light and third at Akane three very different kinds of experiences: soapie, BJ bar and a so-called penis club.
Annie's report is below. The other's are in the Other Massage Parlors forum.
My first stop was Annies. I know this is a tourist trap, but I wanted to see what's the big hoopla was. Annie's is a 10 minute walk from BTS Nana and is not difficult to find just look for Rajah Hotel and Annie's is to the side of the hotel with big signs. You'll have to climb up to second floor.
Annie's website sounds like it's a sophisticated place the scores for the girls, the overall good English on the website, response to the forum posts etc. In reality, Annie's is a relatively small, overpriced soapie with old and crummy facilities compared to other options in Bangkok. Don't be too seduced by the website. Although the website pictures are real, some of the girls look much better in person than their website picture and vice versa.
I got there around 1pm on a Thursday. There were about 5 or so in the fishbowl, none of them particularly appealing. There was a bartender and papasan, neither of whom spoke any English for you to discuss anything about the girls (contrary to the impression you get from their website). I waited for about 20 minutes sipping a beer, until I saw #44 and #87 two ladies highly recommended by the Annie's website. I decided to go for a double 2500x2 THB.
Both are highly recommended by Annie's website and, to be fair, they deserve the rating. #44 is better looking in person than on the website; #87 is nice and sweet but is a far cry from the sophisticated lady portrayed on the website. #44 speaks pretty good English and #87's English is passable.
The facilities at Annie's are 3 stars at best. Grungy rooms that are in bad need of renovation (compared to facilities in other places such as Lord's or even Nataree or Chao Phraya).
The ladies were pretty nice, though they follow a standard script. Soapie massage first (and the girls seemed to have a protocol of who is going to do what) with an attempt to get you off once during the massage and then on to the bed for another pop. The soapie is nice for a first or second time, but it's not the same as Nuru. Soapie tends to dry out your body as opposed to Nuru gel which I find much more sensual.
In any case, after the soapie when the girls wanted to get me off and I was not ready we retired to the bed. #44 is a good kisser and very focused on getting you off quickly and as many times as possible. #87 is a bit more naοve, but is also quite nice and friendly.
The girls start licking and kissing and sucking BBBJ all good, nothing extraordinary. Then #44 slips a condom and ready to climb on me, but I ask her to continue with a CBJ for a few minutes. Her CBJ turned out to be quite extraordinary. I'the say that this CBJ was even better than BBBJ and I popped in less than 3 minutes!
I wanted to relax but the girls started again immediately, preparing me for the next pop. Suck, fuck in several positions, HJ at a frenetic pace to get me off again, which I did, but I would have preferred a bit more relaxation and cuddling between the first and second. Although the session was supposed to be 2 hours and the girls would have been willing to do another round I was done and they signaled the end of the session and started to wash up.
Pros: They really want to get you off for as many pops as you can manage. If you pick the right girls, it can be pleasant. Location is quite convenient.
Cons: Don't be seduced by their website where they paint themselves as a venerable Bangkok institution. The quality of girls, choice and facilities, for comparable prices, are all over Bangkok. [for a first timer, I'the recommend Chao Phraya over Annie's for a soapie for less and with more choice of girls although if you are willing to spend 3000 or more, you can get model types at Lords with much better facilities or much better selection at Nataree (though facilities are not as great).
Overall:
#44: Looks 7/10, Service 8/10. #87: Looks 6/10, service 7/10.
Damage: 4000 + 600 tip + drinks that were reasonable at 30 THB per drink including the girl's drinks.
WIR? Not really, not because it's bad, but because there are so many other choices in Bangkok.
Star of Light and Akane reports are in the "Other Massage Parlors" forum.
The facilities at Annie's are 3 stars at best. Grungy rooms that are in bad need of renovation (compared to facilities in other places such as Lord's or even Nataree or Chao Phraya).
The ladies were pretty nice, though they follow a standard script. Soapie massage first (and the girls seemed to have a protocol of who is going to do what) with an attempt to get you off once during the massage and then on to the bed for another pop. The soapie is nice for a first or second time, but it's not the same as Nuru. Soapie tends to dry out your body as opposed to Nuru gel which I find much more sensual.
Virtually all soapy girls follow a standard procedure until they know you better or you have explained how you want to change the script. people expect certain things from a soapy session.
Sure each Soapy has its pros and cons. If you want fancy facilities you don't go to Annies. Can go to The Lord, Amsterdam, etc. If you want Nuru, you go elsewhere like Colonze 2. If you want convenient location and great service or even pornstar girls, Annies may be the place. Its not the cheapest. I think Bangkok Cosy and Nancy are good el cheapo options (at some other places the girls are just too bad to contemplate). I don't bother to go to these el cheapo places, as the the girls are just not high enough standard to make me want to repeat. On other hand I have repeated Annies #24 several times. Its simply a case of finding a great appropriate girl, and then the venue matters very little.
Chao Praya 2 was one of the best years ago but is in decline. Not enough super pretty girls, and too many fatties. The body slide girls are usually older and chubby, and certainly don't find porn stars there.
So just get it clear what are your priorities when going to a Soapy. For me its all the looks of the girl, the way she behaves, and being good fun and having some ability. The others factors are all less important. Great girls can be found at Annies (but not all appeal of course). I may have been lucky and never struck a bad one yet, that I can remember. There was one I don't remember too well from a long while back (OK but not quite memorable) but all others were good fun.
#44 is a good kisser and very focused on getting you off quickly and as many times as possible.This is interesting to know. I've been wondering for some time why does lady #44 at Annie's Massage has such a high rating from her customers. She has the second highest rating of all the ladies there.
Her looks are almost average. Apparently, it all comes down to her being very cocky with her cocky guys. She makes her guys feel sexually wanted and welcome by constantly grabbing their dicks and playing around with them.
Most Thai massage ladies I've been with would slide their asses, pussies, and tits on my cock. But they would never grab my cock with their hands and stroke it spontaneously. It's as if there is some cultural inhibition among Thai ladies against masturbating their guy with their hands to keep the guy aroused and interested in them.
In Western countries there are massage parlors, where all the lady does is take off her shirt, grab the guy's cock, and stroke it with her hands until the guy cums. It's not full service, but it's pleasant enough. Perhaps Thai ladies need to be told to be more bold, when it comes to grabbing and stroking western dicks with their hands. This is something many western guys like, either all the way to orgasm or as a part of their sex-play.
BeenThereDunn
01-28-13, 10:08
I wanted to relax but the girls started again immediately, preparing me for the next pop. Suck, fuck in several positions, HJ at a frenetic pace to get me off again, which I did, but I would have preferred a bit more relaxation and cuddling between the first and second. Although the session was supposed to be 2 hours and the girls would have been willing to do another round I was done and they signaled the end of the session and started to wash up.
Pros: They really want to get you off for as many pops as you can manage. If you pick the right girls, it can be pleasant. Location is quite convenient.
Cons: Don't be seduced by their website where they paint themselves as a venerable Bangkok institution. The quality of girls, choice and facilities, for comparable prices, are all over Bangkok. [for a first timer, I'the recommend Chao Phraya over Annie's for a soapie for less and with more choice of girls although if you are willing to spend 3000 or more, you can get model types at Lords with much better facilities or much better selection at Nataree (though facilities are not as great).Thanks for the great post, but it's been a while for me. I just wanted to make sure before I headed to annie's that if I get the girl for 2 hours, I might need 3 or 4 pops if I can handle it. Does this depend on the girl to negotiate before, or is this just standard procedure? I know the first BBBJ I'll get off quick, then sex for 30-45 minutes for another pop. That leaves time for another pop or 2. Just don't want to be kicked out of the room with time on the clock.
RandomGuy1989
01-29-13, 14:04
Newbie question, guys:
I'm going to Bangkok next week and intend to visit a soapie (not sure which one just yet as I've never been)
Just for the record though, can you 'pop' as many times as you like?
It seems as though there are some conflicting reports across the interweb. Some people say that girls only.
Let you cum once, which kinda sucks whilst other say as many times as you can handle. Needless to say, I'd
Prefer the latter.
Thanks very much for any advice!
RandomGuy1989
01-29-13, 14:51
Hey guys, sorry about the multiple post and stupid question. Just got slightly confused by the forum layout and couldn't find my originial post.
Apologies again.
Wolvenvacht
01-29-13, 20:50
Newbie question, guys:
I'm going to Bangkok next week and intend to visit a soapie (not sure which one just yet as I've never been)
Just for the record though, can you 'pop' as many times as you like?
It seems as though there are some conflicting reports across the interweb. Some people say that girls only.
Let you cum once, which kinda sucks whilst other say as many times as you can handle. Needless to say, I'd
Prefer the latter.
Thanks very much for any advice!It is standard practice at Annies to go for 2 pops. Other soapies may have different policies. TIT (This is Thailand)! Don't expect any fixed rules here.
Hello everyone,
First time poster in the Thailand forum. I wanted to share my experience, as way of giving back to this forum I have learned so much from.
First visit to Thailand. Decided to go there on a lark. Had some time on my hands and found a cheap flight. A Soapy was definitely on the menu. I had heard about it from a lot of friends, and the prospect was very enticing.
I RTFF before I left, so knew what to do and where to do it. I was staying in a hotel just off Nana Plaza, and Annie's was a 100m walk away. Went up to the fish bowl the first day at around 8. 00 pm, there was a selection of around 15-20 girls. Saw this girl who (to me) looked like a Tera Patrick lookalike, her name was Kay (I forgot her number). Nice rack, average height. At first she looked quite disinterested. I asked the Mamasan if this was one way glass and she confirmed it was; so that put me at ease.
I selected her, and off we went. She turned out to quite pleasant and polite. I was relatively new, so was not sure of the etiquette. She went and got the basket with the paraphernalia which was going to be used. She stripped, and I almost sank to my knees to praise the Lord. She had an amazing body. Amazing rack, flawless skin, and a nice pert bottom. She has a tattoo of two geckos fornicating, below her belly button, and on her lower back. It was a strange tattoo to have. I asked her about it, and it seems geckos are symbols of good luck. I don't know about her, but those geckos surely brought me a lot of luck.
So anyway, all of you are familiar with the menu of services on offer. Started off with a energetic soapy massage, and BBBJ, followed by a batch, and a session of FS in various positions. Very satisfying experience, and I gave her a 500 THB tip. Was feeling a bit cheap at not offering 1000 THB, but then I didn't know what the practice was, so stuck to that amount.
Some tips for newbies, based on my experience:
- RTFF.
- RTFF again.
- Stay in a hotel close to Nana Plaza, it is very convenient for mongering and there are plenty of food joints near there.
- Select a girl with a nice rack. It makes a HUGE difference while you are getting the Soapy.
- I believe you can get off up to 3 pops if you are up for it.
- In case of any doubts, refer to the first two points
Wolvenvacht
02-04-13, 20:43
Very satisfying experience, and I gave her a 500 THB tip. Was feeling a bit cheap at not offering 1000 THB, but then I didn't know what the practice was, so stuck to that amount.Wow, you really are jai dee!
To give you some perspective: minimum wage for a non qualified worker in Bangkok is now about 400 baht / day.
When I go out with my Thai GF, we have lunch together and rarely pay more than 150 baht, drinks included, for the both of us.
Anyhow, welcome in Thailand and may you spend many happy days (and nights) in the Land of Smile.
Wow, you really are jai dee!
To give you some perspective: minimum wage for a non qualified worker in Bangkok is now about 400 baht / day.
When I go out with my Thai GF, we have lunch together and rarely pay more than 150 baht, drinks included, for the both of us.
Anyhow, welcome in Thailand and may you spend many happy days (and nights) in the Land of Smile.You call a guy out for leaving a reasonable tip? So why do you admittedly continue to go to Eden and throw away 4, 000 B?
You could eat that lavish street food 25 times with your GF for that.
Wolvenvacht
02-05-13, 00:13
You call a guy out for leaving a reasonable tip? So why do you admittedly continue to go to Eden and throw away 4, 000 B?
You could eat that lavish street food 25 times with your GF for that.I was speaking about the tip, not her fee. I do not tip the girls at Eden 500 or 1000 baht (each). I think 100 or 200 baht each is enough. But it is his money and if it makes him feel good, fine with me.
Scorchin1470
02-05-13, 02:17
Wow, you really are jai dee!
To give you some perspective: minimum wage for a non qualified worker in Bangkok is now about 400 baht / day.
When I go out with my Thai GF, we have lunch together and rarely pay more than 150 baht, drinks included, for the both of us.
Anyhow, welcome in Thailand and may you spend many happy days (and nights) in the Land of Smile.There is a wealth of difference between generously treating you Thai GF to a street meal for Baht 150 and tipping a MP girl.
There is no reason why a relatively (compared to a Thai) tourist should not slip a good MP girl $15+ for a good time. Back home
It won't buy him a decent meal and in Thailand it may well feed a family.
I continue to dislike the continuing winge about visitors raising prices by paying too much; there is no proof that WGs demand higher fees.
Because tourists over pay.
Went to Annie's recently and had a very enjoyable time with No. 39. This was the third time with her and needless to say the first two were good enough to go for a hat-trick. She first caught my eye when I was there for professional reasons. Her picture is on the web site so anyone who may be interested can check out her picture. She looks as good in real life as she does in her picture. She has a very vibrant personality with a slightly naughty or mischievous side to her which I find very alluring. IMO she is a good looking lady. Incidentally I asked her permission to write this and post it on various forums, she agreed by stating that it had worked well for other ladies at Annie's so why not.
Even from the first visit she was completely at ease and didn't seem to be nervous or apprehensive at all. I am sure there are a lot of people here who have experienced this when encountering a lady for the first time. This being the third time we had a really nice vibe going and could completely relax and have a good laugh during the time. She is roughly 1. 6 meter's tall has an average build and typically Issan features. Being truthful the only aspect which may put some people off is that she does not have a trim flat stomach. But to be fair she does have a ten year old child and she is 28 herself, yes I have her permission to write about these details.
Summary: Based on my tastes and personal preference.
Face: 9/10 I think she has a catching smile and very alluring eyes.
Body: 8/10 Only bad point is lack of a flat trim stomach.
Ass: 8/10 tight enough with just enough to hang on to.
Tits: 7/10 At a guess C cup's drooping just a little but not enough to be off putting.
Overall appearance: 8. 5/10 Just one of those ladies you seriously need to fuck the first time you look at them.
DFK: 8/10 Does this very enthusiastically with nice technique for as long as you want.
BBBJ: 7. 5/10 Good job professionally done, no DT but she put a lot of effort into it. Have had better but also had a lot worse.
DATY: Yes she seemed to genuinely enjoy it. She is not too much of the actress variety of lady.
CIM: Yes, spat it out afterwards but what the lady does with it is irrelevant to me.
COF: Surpassed by CIM but I reckon she would probably be up for it.
FS: 8/10 She really gets into it and pays attention as to whether she thinks you are enjoying yourself as well.
A+: Yes. Decided to indulge this time as it was offered. I am not a big fan of A+ but will give it a go from time to time, don't think this was the first time she had done it (call it intuition!)
Positions: 8/10 Had absolutely no hesitation performing in whatever position I asked for with the same level of effort.
Enthusiasm: 9/10 Struggling to pinpoint anything that really lets her down to be honest. She will no doubt not be everyone's cup of tea but well above satisfactory for me.
Likelihood of return: I have been three times so far so take a wild guess!
Satisfaction: 9/10 As I already said nothing big enough that would put me off.
Recommendation level: 8/10 I would highly recommend this lady. The proportion of people who will not consider it time and money well spent will be extremely low IMHO.
Clock watching: At no time whatsoever.
Pricing: 2, 500 THB.
Time: 120 minutes.
In a city where one session seems to ebb seamlessly into the next and the next and so on this was one that stood out, for me anyway. Not the best that I have ever experienced but her cheeky smile, her dynamism and her attitude towards taking care of my needs and desires is the reason I am writing this post. I would urge anyone to go along to Annie's and give her a whirl, doubt you will walk out disappointed.
Regards.
BJ
There is a wealth of difference between generously treating you Thai GF to a street meal for Baht 150 and tipping a MP girl.
There is no reason why a relatively (compared to a Thai) tourist should not slip a good MP girl $15+ for a good time. Back home
It won't buy him a decent meal and in Thailand it may well feed a family.
I continue to dislike the continuing winge about visitors raising prices by paying too much; there is no proof that WGs demand higher fees.
Because tourists over pay.I agree with that last comment. I am paying the same I have for several years. The only difference is the dollar has slid.
So anyway, all of you are familiar with the menu of services on offer. Started off with a energetic soapy massage, and BBBJ, followed by a batch, and a session of FS in various positions. Very satisfying experience, and I gave her a 500 THB tip. Was feeling a bit cheap at not offering 1000 THB, but then I didn't know what the practice was, so stuck to that amount.500 is fare if you had a great time. Girls here get less than the 1500 (less expenses) that girls make in many other shops. So a nice top up is appreciated. Some of us have to compensate for the stingy bestards out there too. LOL.
What the average Thai makes per day is totally irrelevant as girls are in the sex industry in order to make far more than an average job pays.
What the average Thai makes per day is totally irrelevant as girls are in the sex industry in order to make far more than an average job pays.Taht's the point. A 7/11 cashier might make 400 baht a day, but she does not have to wear out her pussy, lips and DFK farangs for a couple of hours and. Hopefylly for the P4P girl. 2-3 times a day. At the worst she has to smile to the customers but hey. We are in LOS!
Hi All,
Going to Bangkok soon and had an excellent time with Nat (previously on the website as Number 69) last trip mid-2012. She has a dynamite body with the best bum, all nice and firm and round and beautifully proportioned etc, plus she is cute, more PSE than GFE for sure but lots of fun to be had, best BBJ in a long time etc. But is she still there? I guess I'll have to ring when I arrive and enquire, but thought I'd post this anyway.
Check out Annies website: new girls on the site with good looks and 8 scores. Annies being very selective with quality? I look forward to seeing reports.
1. So is it 1700/2500 for 60/90 mins incl room and FS?
2. Are there any girls with natural 34c cup or higher?
1. So is it 1700/2500 for 60/90 mins incl room and FS?
2. Are there any girls with natural 34c cup or higher?The website says 2500 B for two hours. And they do have ladies 34C cup or higher. You can E-mail Annie herself at Annies Massage and arrange your date with the busty lady.
You can find the e-mail address and instructions for how to book your appointment here:
http://www.anniesbangkok.com/faq.html
1. So is it 1700/2500 for 60/90 mins incl room and FS?
2. Are there any girls with natural 34c cup or higher?There is no more the 1700 option. Only 2500 and of course this is full service, room etc
Wolf Hound
02-07-13, 14:38
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Thanks gentlemen. I have visited many MPs but not annies so will give it a shot this time.
The website says 2500 B for two hours. And they do have ladies 34C cup or higher. You can E-mail Annie herself at Annies Massage and arrange your date with the busty lady.
You can find the e-mail address and instructions for how to book your appointment here:
http://www.anniesbangkok.com/faq.html
There is no more the 1700 option. Only 2500 and of course this is full service, room etc
NicFrenchy
02-07-13, 17:16
1. So is it 1700/2500 for 60/90 mins incl room and FS?
2. Are there any girls with natural 34c cup or higher?As the guys said, it's 2500 only, one price. You get 2 hours and 1 shot in the Bath (usually BBBJCIM) , then 1 shot on the mattress / bed.
Like Dr Dolittle would give an honest unbiassed report on an establishment owned by someone he is involved in business with.
This is getting ridiculous now. Come on down to Pattaya Doc, we're waiting.Virtually every massage lady you go with tries to bias you in her favor by being nice to you. It's her job to bias you as much as she can.
But the thing is, guys want to be biased in favor of some lady. It's called liking the lady, and guys enjoy this feeling.
Trying to stay impartial in this kind of a situation would rob you of all enjoyment. Because the whole experience of being with a massage lady is all about subjective sensations and feelings.
Check out Annies website: new girls on the site with good looks and 8 scores. Annies being very selective with quality? I look forward to seeing reports.Try the number 17. I know her very well, you will love the service of this girl! Enjoy
Like Dr Dolittle would give an honest unbiassed report on an establishment owned by someone he is involved in business with.
This is getting ridiculous now. Come on down to Pattaya Doc, we're waiting.I am coming down in March, third weekend to meet up with some friends. PM me your number and we can hit the bars and go-go's and have a few beers, seriously.
Regards,
BJ
Franciscass
02-09-13, 18:23
Went to Annie's recently and had a very enjoyable time with No. 39. This was the third time with her and needless to say the first two were good enough to go for a hat-trick. She first caught my eye when I was there for professional reasons. Her picture is on the web site...Next we will get an equally blatant promotional post from Annie on what a great pussy licking she got from no 666 at Dr. BJ's
FruitNinja
02-09-13, 19:34
Next we will get an equally blatant promotional post from Annie on what a great pussy licking she got from no 666 at Dr. BJ'sHe was there with me today. I posted in BKK general I think. He had #39 and I had #24. I can't vouch for her skill set but the body and attitude were very nice at the bar. I sat there for 10 minutes with Dr and her along with #24.
Try again later.
Hello mongers,
Which ones in annies offer 3 holes services. If they don't where do you recommend I go and with who. I RTFF but this question doesn't seem to be answered and if it is I apologize for missing it. I will be there and will provide a detailed report.
Wolvenvacht
02-09-13, 20:00
Hello mongers,
Which ones in annies offer 3 holes services. If they don't where do you recommend I go and with who. I RTFF but this question doesn't seem to be answered and if it is I apologize for missing it. I will be there and will provide a detailed report.Just ask the mamasan.
Hello mongers,
Which ones in annies offer 3 holes services. If they don't where do you recommend I go and with who. I RTFF but this question doesn't seem to be answered and if it is I apologize for missing it. I will be there and will provide a detailed report.I officially opened her third hole. Required 2kTHB tips. I am not 'hung like a donkey' and she said she would try. First visit was a failure. And she didn't ask for the money. Just tipped her generously.
2nd time over was lots of baby oil and cajoling and it was fun. She is super nice, most at annie's are including the wonderful mamasan.
Good luck.
Darn, do I miss BKK!
Paul Kausch
02-10-13, 00:14
I officially opened her third hole. Required 2kTHB tips. I am not 'hung like a donkey' and she said she would try. First visit was a failure. And she didn't ask for the money. Just tipped her generously.
2nd time over was lots of baby oil and cajoling and it was fun. She is super nice, most at annie's are including the wonderful mamasan.
Good luck.
Darn, do I miss BKK!Is that what she told you? Are you sure you're the first? Maybe its just a clever ploy to get a big tip. Just kidding.
I hope she enjoyed it, Now that word's out I'm sure every guy in her fan club is going follow suit.
I officially opened her third hole. Required 2kTHB tips. I am not 'hung like a donkey' and she said she would try. First visit was a failure. And she didn't ask for the money. Just tipped her generously.
2nd time over was lots of baby oil and cajoling and it was fun. She is super nice, most at annie's are including the wonderful mamasan.
Good luck.
Darn, do I miss BKK!Ouch!
I usually don't care what guys tip, but dude, you are wasting your money I think.
A 2K tip is way too much I believe. You can get all you got and GFE for less than that total at Tulip. Just making a suggestion so you don't waste your hard earned funds. But if you don't care, god bless you.
Ouch!
I usually don't care what guys tip, but dude, you are wasting your money I think.
A 2K tip is way too much I believe. You can get all you got and GFE for less than that total at Tulip. Just making a suggestion so you don't waste your hard earned funds. But if you don't care, god bless you.Does anyone really care what you think about someone else's tips? The girl doesn't normally do anal. She is popular due to stunning model body. She tried. He tipped whatever he felt like.
You are not an Annies customer right? So why bother to open the Annies thread? Just like I am not in Pattaya, so I don't open it normally. If you had comments on the Annies girls you were going with, it would be vastly more benefit. Otherwise no one is interested.
I am coming down in March, third weekend to meet up with some friends. PM me your number and we can hit the bars and go-go's and have a few beers, seriously.
Regards,
BJI have no objection myself, but you really should get another secret handle if you want to report on Annies girls. I know of No. 39 myself, so find it all very realistic, but there so many forum members who like to think negative.
Does anyone really care what you think about someone else's tips? The girl doesn't normally do anal. She is popular due to stunning model body. She tried. He tipped whatever he felt like.
You are not an Annies customer right? So why bother to open the Annies thread? Just like I am not in Pattaya, so I don't open it normally. If you had comments on the Annies girls you were going with, it would be vastly more benefit. Otherwise no one is interested. You must be interested because you responded. There you go again Mr. Snuggles. Getting emotional about some anonymous poster on a sex site.
I have been to Annie's a few times. I know these girls are very happy with a tip less than 2K.
You believe that was her first anal? OK, whatever you say. I bet you have been lied to and manipulated by many of these girls and have no idea.
And Hey, if you and him want to give 2K, no problem. I made that clear. But, your emotions and anger always get the best of you Mr. Snuggles.
Paul Kausch
02-10-13, 04:08
You must be interested because you responded. There you go again Mr. Snuggles. Getting emotional about some anonymous poster on a sex site.
I have been to Annie's a few times. I know these girls are very happy with a tip less than 2K.
You believe that was her first anal? OK, whatever you say. I bet you have been lied to and manipulated by many of these girls and have no idea.
And Hey, if you and him want to give 2K, no problem. I made that clear. But, your emotions and anger always get the best of you Mr. Snuggles.I think she really had a virgin ass until Jaay Zeez hit the jackpot. Here's how I figure it (notice that he reports the first try was unsuccessful.)
It's a myth that Annie's girls get as much as reported. They are really working for tips. As the ISG basterds are a bunch of cheap mother fuckers these girls are living on starvation wages. Number 24's been saving her virgin ass for a rainy day and it came. Jaay Zeez made a generous offer. She tried her best but couldn't take him. Desperate, she went home and practiced first with the neck of a beer bottle and then the base. Satisfied that she could handle any man, she waited with bated breath for Jay Zeez to return so she could collect her 2000.
You believe that was her first anal? OK, whatever you say. I bet you have been lied to and manipulated by many of these girls and have no idea.
And Hey, if you and him want to give 2K, no problem. I made that clear. But, your emotions and anger always get the best of you Mr. Snuggles.I didn't want to say anything but I fucked her in the ass about three months ago. Tipped less than 2K too. I'm above average size but not quite pornstar sized so I licked her ass for while to get it relaxed and then dove in. It was glorious.
Wolf Hound
02-10-13, 10:39
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I did her last August. I didn't want any medal for my feat! The way she struggled I believed what she said. If it wasn't true, big deal!
As for the tip, ya its personal discretion, may be I am not skilled with negotiation.
The poor guy asked who wld do 3 holes and I answered. Rest is all trivia!
Cheers.
J
Next we will get an equally blatant promotional post from Annie on what a great pussy licking she got from no 666 at Dr. BJ'sThere you go again having a dig at poor doc. Personally I think Annie runs a professional outfit where above average service usually makes up what her crew lack in looks. Did you return to Foot Joy.
Paul Kausch
02-10-13, 19:53
I did her last August. I didn't want any medal for my feat! The way she struggled I believed what she said. If it wasn't true, big deal!
As for the tip, ya its personal discretion, may be I am not skilled with negotiation.
The poor guy asked who wld do 3 holes and I answered. Rest is all trivia!
Cheers.
JConsidering how many of the ISG basterd cheap mother fuckers are in love with her, I think you deserve a medal if it can be established you were the first.
Just to make myself clear, my insults are in jest. I waste so much time on this forum because I find it informative, titillating and at times very funny. I've enjoyed this little segment about open 24's "virgin" asshole!
FruitNinja
02-11-13, 06:46
Is that what she told you? Are you sure you're the first? Maybe its just a clever ploy to get a big tip. Just kidding.
I hope she enjoyed it, Now that word's out I'm sure every guy in her fan club is going follow suit.I'll be back! Although I like it at times it's not a deal breaker for me. The girls is an animal. Add that third hole I don't know my heart could handle it.
FruitNinja
02-11-13, 09:00
Senior Bro : I am assuming Ms AOR is No 24 on Annie's website as she fits your description (and looks luscious!)
I went thru a few dozen of your older posts but could not find your detailed report on Aor : could you please inform me the date of the post so that I can retrieve it BEFORE I rush to sample Ms AOr?
Thanks!SailSingapore, I don't think you should rush over to see her. I think you should RUN. I just saw her twice in my last three days there. The first time I did not think I had two shots left after a mont on the road.
There is a lot appealing about this woman. She is all about pleasing and although Her English is decent. She is very playful. If you dig a little you will realize that she is intelligent, very respectful, and in this for the short lime. She has a plan, I managed two shots for my first visit. I do to think she would have a problem with whatever you needed.
FruitNinja
02-11-13, 09:15
You are absolutely right! If you're dealing with people who are providing a service and seeing them repeatedly, a smile, warm hello and tad generous tip go a long way. Used to go to a bar on a regular basis; always gave the cocktail waitress a little extra for her tip. She always took great care of me: instant service with a big smile, kept careful track of how much scotch was in my glass, always kept my back of water fresh and refilled. If I wanted to drink cheap, I'd sit at home and drink my own. I go to a bar for service with my scotch.Great advice Paul."Mama, I think she's hot, what do you think?" "No No No No, she like Japanese, she rush you, you no have good time, mama know." Thank's mama, you want another drink. I've actually had mama sit with the girl and go over "treat him good rules before I leave with the girl." And don't think the girl on stage doesn't notice if you and mama look like old friends.
Next we will get an equally blatant promotional post from Annie on what a great pussy licking she got from no 666 at Dr. BJ'sYou heard it here first. I would begin to respect your opinion if you went to Annie's and tried number 39 for yourself, or just came to Thailand full stop. Your approach is like commenting on a particular dish in a restaurant that you have never even eaten. But your primary school snipes make me laugh so keep them coming.
Regards,
BJ
I have no objection myself, but you really should get another secret handle if you want to report on Annies girls. I know of No. 39 myself, so find it all very realistic, but there so many forum members who like to think negative.I do get what you are saying but consider the second handle part as being slightly underhand and I prefer to be honest and up-front. The part I solidly agree with is there are too many negative responses on this forum and no where near enough informative and valuable post's.
Regards,
BJ
I have been to Annie's a few times. I know these girls are very happy with a tip less than 2K.
You believe that was her first anal? OK, whatever you say. I bet you have been lied to and manipulated by many of these girls and have no idea.
And Hey, if you and him want to give 2K, no problem. I made that clear. But, your emotions and anger always get the best of you Mr. Snuggles.Many massage ladies wouldn't do anal, even when you offer them more money than 2k. I think 2k is a very reasonable amount to persuade someone like lady #24 to spread her nice ass for a horny guy. She isn't just any massage lady. She is tall, good-looking, and she has a very nice ass. Even porn-stars, who are as good-looking as she is, often refuse to have anal sex with guys.
This lady has such a nice ass that she can probably charge 2k every guy who wants to have anal sex with her. And if she charges less than this, then it only shows how good-hearted she is.
Paul Kausch
02-11-13, 18:42
I do get what you are saying but consider the second handle part as being slightly underhand and I prefer to be honest and up-front. The part I solidly agree with is there are too many negative responses on this forum and no where near enough informative and valuable post's.
Regards,
BJ
You heard it here first. I would begin to respect your opinion if you went to Annie's and tried number 39 for yourself, or just came to Thailand full stop. Your approach is like commenting on a particular dish in a restaurant that you have never even eaten. But your primary school snipes make me laugh so keep them coming.
Regards,
BJUnfortunately, some people don't realize that smart people are honest about their business and the way they conduct it. I buy, sell and raise capital for businesses. If I wasn't perfectly candid and didn't carefully protect my reputation, I'd be out of business. My reputation for being knowledgeable and credible are absolutely necessary. Never met you BJ, but I'm inclined to believe your posts. You're very visible. You're businesses carry your nickname. If you gave lousy girls great reviews people would eventually discover you are not credible. Now that would be a brilliant business move, wouldn't it! BJ, when I was a young man a wise man almost three times my age who had been a big shot in the USA State Dept once told me,"You're doing it right if half the people like you and half the people hate you." I bet plenty of guys are jealous of you. While they're bitching and moaning about how hard it is to find one good pussy they can buy, you have the responsibility of having to keep your establishments well stocked with as much good pussy as you can sell.
many massage ladies wouldn't do anal, even when you offer them more money than 2k. i think 2k is a very reasonable amount to persuade someone like lady #24 to spread her nice ass for a horny guy. she isn't just any massage lady. she is tall, good-looking, and she has a very nice ass. even porn-stars, who are as good-looking as she is, often refuse to have anal sex with guys.
this lady has such a nice ass that she can probably charge 2k every guy who wants to have anal sex with her. and if she charges less than this, then it only shows how good-hearted she is.or perhaps that she likes it. there are those rare gals that love to get it in the pooper. one current snow white gal comes to mind.
Paul Kausch
02-11-13, 20:13
or perhaps that she likes it. there are those rare gals that love to get it in the pooper. one current snow white gal comes to mind.it's her ass. she can charge whatever she wants. and if it was a virgin ass at the time 2k doesn't sound out of line. i wonder how much extra the guys who are poking around there now are paying. the only thing i would have done is ask how much she wanted for her virgin ass before making my offer. basic rule of negotiation: always let the other party go first. why do you think the girls say,"up to you." and personally, i'd rather not be the pioneer. i prefer coming along later when she's more experienced but still enthusiastic.
also, i can testify that some girls are really into anal, if the guy knows how to do it. after watching the devil in miss jones (i'm sure you old-timers remember that one) my ex-wife wanted to try getting her ass fucked. i had never done it before, so it was sort of the blind leading the blind. anyway, we figured out a routine she loved. we started with some oral (with lots of rimming) and vaginal sex to warm her up. then while fucking her pussy k-9, i'd stick my finger (later we graduate to a small vibrator) up her ass. then, with plenty of lube, i'd stick my cock in her butt-hole while she used the small vibrator on her clit. eventually we added a rather large vibrator in the pussy to the routine. the clitoral / vaginal / anal stimulation drove her wild. she would let me ride her like this until she began to skim, which she'd want to go on until she collapsed from exhaustion. then fifteen minutes later the * was up for another round. she claims her asshole never got particularly sore. years later i had a girlfriend who also asked for it. she wasn't into it as much as my ex, but she definitely liked it. her only request was that i not shoot my wad into her ass. she claimed it clogged up her plumbing. beats me, that's what she said. i've also known escorts who said they enjoy a-level when the client knows what he's doing. read the posts about apple at cherry, sounds like she also gets into anal.
Considering how many of the ISG basterd cheap mother fuckers are in love with her, I think you deserve a medal if it can be established you were the first.
Just to make myself clear, my insults are in jest. I waste so much time on this forum because I find it informative, titillating and at times very funny. I've enjoyed this little segment about open 24's "virgin" asshole!An episode that comes to my mind. The road that has Nana bar (to your left) and you walk further down there is this open bar right opp to a quiet steakhouse (but they got some awesome steak and Franziskaner to water it down). I picked up a girl that was friendly on a rainy evening and walked her up to Phachara suites and had a nice pop, a quick one after some DFK. While just cuddling, feeling her back and warming up for the second I stuck my thumb (yes thumb!) into her ass. She just moaned. Then I continued with it, while my junior was ready, put a few drops of that go to oil and stuck my dick in.
No questions asked, no resistance and no negotiation. Just with the flow.
I fucked her in the ass and then had a 3rd pop after a long time. The girl was very intelligent, spoke about Thailand economy an how she had to move from Phuket to BKK post Tsunami. On importance of saving (!) etc etc. She was some girl! I got her mail I'd, but she did hint, if I had to find her I cld spot her in the bar, meaning she wldn't reply which she has duly stuck to.
Thing is after all this 3 pops in Short term. 1 anal and all tat free wisdom, she walked out happily with 1k as tip. She was classy!
So situations vary, sometimes we get lucky sometimes they just don't budge.
As for opening no24's virgin ass. Hmm let's close that episode.
Peace
GoldDigger
02-11-13, 22:50
I'v been last Friday in Annies and I could see some new faces. Did stay with a young newbie (unfortunately forgot her number) and enjoyed nearly two hours all the usual services. We had a bit time to chat and she told me that all girls receive a special training about all Annie standards and have to follow very strict rules. I couldn't believe what I heard but it seems they don't get salary if they are found outside Annies with a man. Even on their free days and even with their regular bf. Also they have to pay fines if they don't allow their pictures on the webpage or refuse any kind of service or client. Think it's not fair to interfere in the private life of the girls as long as they do a good shop and appear during working hours. Seems some stunners just left the place because they are not any longer willing to be explores. I like good service but next time I will think twice before I enter the place. Question to the management: why in hell you don't adopt a more liberal scheme like in Natharee where girls can come and go whenever they want. This place is always full with young beauties and frequented by lots of clients.
Scorchin1470
02-11-13, 23:52
Thing is after all this 3 pops in Short term. 1 anal and all tat free wisdom, she walked out happily with 1k as tip. She was classy!
So situations vary, sometimes we get lucky sometimes they just don't budge.
As for opening no24's virgin ass. Hmm let's close that episode.
PeaceWe all get lucky and all have stories of the tart with heart. Used to be a regular feature of BKK shagging (the girl who came for ST and stayed for LT and the next night for baht 1500)
Just rarer as the economy grows and WGs have better living standards. A night in a 4 star hotel no longer appeals.
Franciscass
02-12-13, 01:14
You heard it here first. I would begin to respect your opinion if you went to Annie's and tried number 39 for yourself, or just came to Thailand full stop. Your approach is like commenting on a particular dish in a restaurant that you have never even eaten. But your primary school snipes make me laugh so keep them coming.
Regards,
BJActually doc I live here and I wasn't commenting on the girl in question just your post. As some others pointed out a review of what goes on at a business partner's place has to be taken with a grain of salt. Incidentally you seem to have adopted a new palsy walsy persona on the forum on how to win friends and influence people in contrast to your old up and at 'them style. You know I preferred the old doc at least you were being yourself then. This new I'm a nice nice guy doesn't really suit you so lets have the old blood and guts doc back.
SailSingapore
02-12-13, 05:22
SailSingapore, I don't think you should rush over to see her. I think you should RUN. I just saw her twice in my last three days there. The first time I did not think I had two shots left after a mont on the road.
There is a lot appealing about this woman. She is all about pleasing and although Her English is decent. She is very playful. If you dig a little you will realize that she is intelligent, very respectful, and in this for the short lime. She has a plan, I managed two shots for my first visit. I do to think she would have a problem with whatever you needed.Thanks for the response Brother F-N! Thank you Sir!
I must find out if I can take Ms Aor overnight with me after your most appealing recommendation(s).
Paul Kausch
02-12-13, 06:09
I'v been last Friday in Annies and I could see some new faces. Did stay with a young newbie (unfortunately forgot her number) and enjoyed nearly two hours all the usual services. We had a bit time to chat and she told me that all girls receive a special training about all Annie standards and have to follow very strict rules. I couldn't believe what I heard but it seems they don't get salary if they are found outside Annies with a man. Even on their free days and even with their regular bf. Also they have to pay fines if they don't allow their pictures on the webpage or refuse any kind of service or client. Think it's not fair to interfere in the private life of the girls as long as they do a good shop and appear during working hours. Seems some stunners just left the place because they are not any longer willing to be explores. I like good service but next time I will think twice before I enter the place. Question to the management: why in hell you don't adopt a more liberal scheme like in Natharee where girls can come and go whenever they want. This place is always full with young beauties and frequented by lots of clients.This is very interesting. Has anyone else heard anything like this?
I was not going to write a report about it and still don't want to go into details but, a couple of months ago I had a nice romp with a sweet gogo girl. After finishing as we relaxed on the bed she began telling me things about the bar she worked in, its manager and things that happen to some of the girls (its one of the better known gogos) that if true were alarming. Who knows if her story was true, but she sounded convincing, not that that means much.
For what its worth Golddigger, you may have fucked the little lady who told you this. Good thing you forgot her number, but still when Annie's reads this post they'll narrow the suspect list down in a few seconds and someone will suffer. I'm glad you shared this but it would have been best not to disclose so much about the source of the information.
Wolf Hound
02-12-13, 06:48
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Aey Annies
02-12-13, 12:55
If a lady does not want her picture on the website that is up to her. If this rule you are saying is in use is true, out of the 100+ ladies we have on our books, why do we not have 100 pictures on the website? The famous number 11 for example, where is her picture. Mee who is one of our top ladies, mentioned a few times on here in the last few weeks, where is her picture? Also I know many customers that have sent me emails asking for pictures of ladies and I am sure they can confirm that a regular answer I give is,
Many ladies do not wish for pictures to be used for internet reasons, this is there choice and we respect it.
If a lady is seen outside with a customer of Annie's and the customer has not paid us for the ladies time, then we do 2 things.
The customer is not allowed back into Annie's
The lady is fired the next day after we find out.
Or would it make more sense for us to allow all ladies to see all our customers outside of work thus not paying for there time vie us, which is the business model of a brothel.
If a lady has a boyfriend this is very very different thing of course but very very few do.
If a lady does not want to be with a customer then we have no way of stopping that anyway, as the lady can just walk out of Annie's door and we never see them again.
Annie's has had no staff leave for about 3 months. We have 3 or 4 that have asked for personnel time off and will return soon plus a few ladies on long term bookings.
If a lady does not want her picture on the website that is up to her. If this rule you are saying is in use is true, out of the 100+ ladies we have on our books, why do we not have 100 pictures on the website? The famous number 11 for example, where is her picture. Mee who is one of our top ladies, mentioned a few times on here in the last few weeks, where is her picture? Also I know many customers that have sent me emails asking for pictures of ladies and I am sure they can confirm that a regular answer I give is,
Many ladies do not wish for pictures to be used for internet reasons, this is there choice and we respect it.
If a lady is seen outside with a customer of Annie's and the customer has not paid us for the ladies time, then we do 2 things.
The customer is not allowed back into Annie's
The lady is fired the next day after we find out.
Or would it make more sense for us to allow all ladies to see all our customers outside of work thus not paying for there time vie us, which is the business model of a brothel.
If a lady has a boyfriend this is very very different thing of course but very very few do.
If a lady does not want to be with a customer then we have no way of stopping that anyway, as the lady can just walk out of Annie's door and we never see them again.
Annie's has had no staff leave for about 3 months. We have 3 or 4 that have asked for personnel time off and will return soon plus a few ladies on long term bookings.I would think who they (the girls) chose to spend time with when they are not working at Annie's is their business and none of yours. If they choose to see a customer during their time off then that is certainly their right, eh? Or or they on the clock 24/7/365?
Paul Kausch
02-12-13, 19:12
I would think who they (the girls) chose to spend time with when they are not working at Annie's is their business and none of yours. If they choose to see a customer during their time off then that is certainly their right, eh? Or or they on the clock 24/7/365?I total agree with Aey Annie's on this point. Years ago I employed software engineers who worked on client's projects. Their agreement prevented them from going around me and providing the service directly to my client. My engineers and I had a clear understanding they only Worked for me. Now they were free to work on personal projects in their spare time so ling as they were not related to my business. This was fine so long as they didn't violate their NDA agreement with me. Stealing an idea; stealing a client; I'd have gone after them. This was standard industry practice and is only fair. I spent my resources, time and money, developing the idea, securing the client in the first place. After the contract was completed and the stipulated time had lapsed, my former client was free to offer employment to one of my engineers. And this occasionally happened. I had no problem with that. I'm sure Aey Annie's wouldn't object to one of the ladies leaving her establishment and marrying a former client.
I would think who they (the girls) chose to spend time with when they are not working at Annie's is their business and none of yours. If they choose to see a customer during their time off then that is certainly their right, eh? Or or they on the clock 24/7/365?When an estate agent shows you an apartment, you cannot make a deal regarding this aprtment without paying the estate agent.
Similarly, if you have been introduced to a girl through Annie, I think it is normal that you paythen for this service.
When an estate agent shows you an apartment, you cannot make a deal regarding this aprtment without paying the estate agent.
Similarly, if you have been introduced to a girl through Annie, I think it is normal that you paythen for this service.I have had BG's tell me the same thing. If I met her in bar, even if day off later, they ask to pay BF.
It could all well be BS. I know may guys see girls off work, no problem.
When an estate agent shows you an apartment, you cannot make a deal regarding this aprtment without paying the estate agent.
Similarly, if you have been introduced to a girl through Annie, I think it is normal that you paythen for this service.Excellent analogy Dreams! Annie's is an employer. I assume they can enforce a certain code of conduct on their employees. This means they can fire an employee for seeing a guy on the side for money.
However, if the guy is not paying for it, then it sounds like it is okay according the Annie's post.
When an estate agent shows you an apartment, you cannot make a deal regarding this aprtment without paying the estate agent.
Similarly, if you have been introduced to a girl through Annie, I think it is normal that you paythen for this service.This is true, but if you bought the "condo" and the deal has been done. Why can't you see the real estate later after business hours?
As for Annie's. The customer came in the first time and PAID HIS TIME. So the business model wasn't broken. If he meets her at a later date on her off time there should be no penalty to WG. But must be some Thai culture thing I'm missing here.
Now if client comes into Annie sees girl he wants calls her out and they talk he slips her the number and she bypasses the establishment rules. Then I could see grounds for dismissal, but I don't know anything about business. I'm just a meat head.
GoldDigger
02-12-13, 22:05
If a lady does not want her picture on the website that is up to her. If this rule you are saying is in use is true, out of the 100+ ladies we have on our books, why do we not have 100 pictures on the website? The famous number 11 for example, where is her picture. Mee who is one of our top ladies, mentioned a few times on here in the last few weeks, where is her picture? Also I know many customers that have sent me emails asking for pictures of ladies and I am sure they can confirm that a regular answer I give is,
Many ladies do not wish for pictures to be used for internet reasons, this is there choice and we respect it.
If a lady is seen outside with a customer of Annie's and the customer has not paid us for the ladies time, then we do 2 things.
The customer is not allowed back into Annie's
The lady is fired the next day after we find out.
Or would it make more sense for us to allow all ladies to see all our customers outside of work thus not paying for there time vie us, which is the business model of a brothel.
If a lady has a boyfriend this is very very different thing of course but very very few do.
If a lady does not want to be with a customer then we have no way of stopping that anyway, as the lady can just walk out of Annie's door and we never see them again.
Annie's has had no staff leave for about 3 months. We have 3 or 4 that have asked for personnel time off and will return soon plus a few ladies on long term bookings.Sounds like I started an interesting discussion and some emotions are coming out. At least happy to see a response from Aey and my respect for her frank statements. It is true not all ladies have their pics on the webpage but it seems there is a lot of pressure and even some fines are applied.
The comparison of "Dreams" I cannot accept: We are speaking not about real estate but about human beings. Aey: I could even accept your rules about not meeting a customer outside but it seems but it seems the ladies are not allowed to meet any man outside Annies. You described good what happened if a lady does not want to be with a customer ("the lady can just walk out."). That means in fact that the lady has no choice: Accept our rules or you're fired! As we all know most ladies have an enormous pressure to keep their job and in consequence they will never do anything against the rules.
Anyway I do not understand such business policy even if these practices are very common in Thai nightlife. There are some other establishments (I don't want to do merchandising but I mentioned an example) with much much less rules and it looks like they are quiet successful: New and clean installations, lots of clients and many ladies chose to work there.
Hope things will change one day.
Paul Kausch: I also was afraid about the girls identity and changed the day of my visit and "forgot" her number. Also hope she will not suffer because she does not deserve. I made a lot of questions and she just confirmed everything what another very reliable lady (with a longtime Annie experience) already told me last year. Fortunately this girl left Annies some month ago and is living now far away.
Scorchin1470
02-12-13, 23:14
When an estate agent shows you an apartment, you cannot make a deal regarding this aprtment without paying the estate agent.
Similarly, if you have been introduced to a girl through Annie, I think it is normal that you paythen for this service.Whilst Annie's and others may have rules there is many a BG / MP Girl who will be happy to collect 1, 000 baht ST without having to contribute to Annie's or her bar.
For comparison: I have yet to meet an agency WG in England who is not happy to give you her 'direct' phone line. Prostitution is not the most honest of businesses
And many a wG is greedy enough to want 100 percent of any fee.
If a lady is seen outside with a customer of Annie's and the customer has not paid us for the ladies time, then we do 2 things.
The customer is not allowed back into Annie's
The lady is fired the next day after we find out.I hope you let your customers know about this rule. Because a guy might do it out of ignorance and not because he means to break the rules that he doesn't know about.
I was once in a situation, where I really liked a massage lady. I kept coming back to her massage place every day to see her. And one day she told me that she wanted to meet me outside on the street or in my hotel room. Of course, I said 'yes' to her, because I liked her so much, and also I didn't know that I would be breaking any rules.
I ended up giving her a lot more money than she would've earned at the massage place. Because she kept all the money for herself, instead of giving a part of it to the massage establishment. I realized that this wasn't so good for the massage establishment. But it wasn't my idea. And I thought that if the massage lady said it was okay to do, then it was probably okay. It's hard to distrust someone you like a lot.
Paul Kausch
02-13-13, 01:42
I hope you let your customers know about this rule. Because a guy might do it out of ignorance and not because he means to break the rules that he doesn't know about.
I was once in a situation, where I really liked a massage lady. I kept coming back to her massage place every day to see her. And one day she told me that she wanted to meet me outside on the street or in my hotel room. Of course, I said 'yes' to her, because I liked her so much, and also I didn't know that I would be breaking any rules.
I ended up giving her a lot more money than she would've earned at the massage place. Because she kept all the money for herself, instead of giving a part of it to the massage establishment. I realized that this wasn't so good for the massage establishment. But it wasn't my idea. And I thought that if the massage lady said it was okay to do, then it was probably okay. It's hard to distrust someone you like a lot.Excellent point Dan. Annie's takeout price is listed on the website. I think that makes it pretty clear you are to arrange for the lady through the parlor. This is like trying to go around an escort agency's back. Some guys try, but I think everyone who uses agencies knows it violates a policy that in my experience is clearly stated on every agency's website.
Of course this lady's intention was to pocket all the money; and she knew she was breaking the rules.
As I stated in a previous post, I sympathize with the business. It is a perfectly fair and reasonable policy.
FruitNinja
02-13-13, 02:32
Unfortunately, some people don't realize that smart people are honest about their business and the way they conduct it. I buy, sell and raise capital for businesses. If I wasn't perfectly candid and didn't carefully protect my reputation, I'd be out of business. My reputation for being knowledgeable and credible are absolutely necessary. Never met you BJ, but I'm inclined to believe your posts. You're very visible. You're businesses carry your nickname. If you gave lousy girls great reviews people would eventually discover you are not credible. Now that would be a brilliant business move, wouldn't it! BJ, when I was a young man a wise man almost three times my age who had been a big shot in the USA State Dept once told me,"You're doing it right if half the people like you and half the people hate you." I bet plenty of guys are jealous of you. While they're bitching and moaning about how hard it is to find one good pussy they can buy, you have the responsibility of having to keep your establishments well stocked with as much good pussy as you can sell.I have met the Good Dr, and was with him at Annie's. Nice guy and he said she was a good time. I think assuming he assuming he randomly samples his wares might be wrong. The Dr keeps himself on a tight budget as far as that goes. I don't know that I could do that. I don't have that kind of will power. Anyway, if you're in town stop and say hello, he was a good host.
FN
Franciscass
02-13-13, 05:52
If a lady is seen outside with a customer of Annie's and the customer has not paid us for the ladies time, then we do 2 things.This is totally unacceptable and nothing less than modern day slavery. What your staff do on their day off is none of your bloody business, that is their free time to do with as they please. Incidentally how do you define "customer of Annie's" somebody who visited once 5 years ago. Their life is tough enough dealing with all sorts of dicks without you trying to control what they do 24/7. If I meet a girl at a brothel and want to see her on her day off go do some shopping have a meal see a show even spend the night with with her that is her right it's her FREE time to do with as she pleases not yours to control as you see fit.
Excellent point Dan. Annie's takeout price is listed on the website. I think that makes it pretty clear you are to arrange for the lady through the parlor. This is like trying to go around an escort agency's back. Some guys try, but I think everyone who uses agencies knows it violates a policy that in my experience is clearly stated on every agency's website.
Of course this lady's intention was to pocket all the money; and she knew she was breaking the rules.
As I stated in a previous post, I sympathize with the business. It is a perfectly fair and reasonable policy.You are correct Paul, but that takeout price if she is "ON DUTY". Seems to me Annie's is wanting to control the WG's whole life. Seems like they are trying to be LEGAL PIMPS from this side of view.
And Escort agencies schedules differ from a MP / GoGo
This is totally unacceptable and nothing less than modern day slavery. What your staff do on their day off is none of your bloody business, that is their free time to do with as they please. Incidentally how do you define "customer of Annie's" somebody who visited once 5 years ago. Their life is tough enough dealing with all sorts of dicks without you trying to control what they do 24/7. If I meet a girl at a brothel and want to see her on her day off go do some shopping have a meal see a show even spend the night with with her that is her right it's her FREE time to do with as she pleases not yours to control as you see fit.I must me a slave then. As a software engineer, I'm restricted by my employer from writing certain kinds of code on my own time with my own equipment. This is not uncommon. The reason they have this clause in the contract is the same as Annie's. They don't want their employees to "compete" with them.
As for Annie's. The customer came in the first time and PAID HIS TIME. So the business model wasn't broken. If he meets her at a later date on her off time there should be no penalty to WG. But must be some Thai culture thing I'm missing here.
Now if client comes into Annie sees girl he wants calls her out and they talk he slips her the number and she bypasses the establishment rules. Then I could see grounds for dismissal, but I don't know anything about business. I'm just a meat head.Don't be silly. Annies is not an introduction agency where Annies get a cut only for the first time you are with a girl.
Annies expects to make the money each and every time, and the assumption is you want the girl for sex purposes. It makes very little difference to the business whether you are spending time with the girl inside or outside the club. Its all the same.
Naturally girls do get to spend there own free time with those who have never been an Annies customer.
This is totally unacceptable and nothing less than modern day slavery. What your staff do on their day off is none of your bloody business, that is their free time to do with as they please. Incidentally how do you define "customer of Annie's" somebody who visited once 5 years ago. Their life is tough enough dealing with all sorts of dicks without you trying to control what they do 24/7. If I meet a girl at a brothel and want to see her on her day off go do some shopping have a meal see a show even spend the night with with her that is her right it's her FREE time to do with as she pleases not yours to control as you see fit.Simply the girl is not permitted to make money on the sly outside the business control. She is also not allowed to mix business with pleasure and see the customers for free. This is standard business practice (not known as slavery). I am subject to these type of rules in the company I work for as well, that I cannot work for the end client direct bypassing the "agency".
Realistically customers of Annies only met Annies girls at Annies, so the 5 years ago bit is just speculation.
Look there could always be special exceptions. I once went to a Tulip girl's birthday party supper. At least 15 Tulip girls were there and I contribiuted significantly to the total food cost. No one got fired and I was not banned from Tulip. Its likely I had paid for outcall of at least the birthday girl however, to avoid any hassles or rules violations.
FruitNinja
02-13-13, 19:03
This is totally unacceptable and nothing less than modern day slavery. What your staff do on their day off is none of your bloody business, that is their free time to do with as they please. Incidentally how do you define "customer of Annie's" somebody who visited once 5 years ago. Their life is tough enough dealing with all sorts of dicks without you trying to control what they do 24/7. If I meet a girl at a brothel and want to see her on her day off go do some shopping have a meal see a show even spend the night with with her that is her right it's her FREE time to do with as she pleases not yours to control as you see fit.Franciscass,
I totally get what your saying but let's be realistic. Human nature would have the girl and the guy wanting to bypass Annie's. The girl to maximize her take and the guy to minimize his outlay. And before you know it Annie's is out of business. Then I wouldn't have had the opportunity to experience #24.
I am a General Contractor and use many different sub-contractors. I have a rule. If you work for me you do not work for my customer directly for the same reason as above. I am not in the introduction business. Annie's is not in the introduction business. If you want that then you go to DIA or Match. Com. That's their business model.
As harsh as that may seem by western standards where prostitution is looked down upon this is Thailand and it's a way of life. The girls have a choice. They obviously must do OK at Annie's or they wouldn't work there. I'm pretty sure the rules are gone over with them before the sign up. And if you're talking about a guy falling in love with a working girl well then the guy has bigger problems.
FN
GoldDigger
02-13-13, 19:05
Don't be silly. Annies is not an introduction agency where Annies get a cut only for the first time you are with a girl.
Annies expects to make the money each and every time, and the assumption is you want the girl for sex purposes. It makes very little difference to the business whether you are spending time with the girl inside or outside the club. Its all the same.
Naturally girls do get to spend there own free time with those who have never been an Annies customer.You are absolutely right. The problem is that Annies doesn't apply the rule only for customers. The girls are also not allowed to stay with somebody they met outside their working place or a long time ago in a different place. If a lady is seen with a falang outside Annies after work or on their free days she faces serious problems: paying fine, discounting salary. Agree with Franciscass: not acceptable
Harry Dude
02-13-13, 19:55
Totally agree with Aey and with FN. This is not slavery. It's standard business practice across the globe.
Franciscass,
I totally get what your saying but let's be realistic. Human nature would have the girl and the guy wanting to bypass Annie's. The girl to maximize her take and the guy to minimize his outlay. And before you know it Annie's is out of business. Then I wouldn't have had the opportunity to experience #24.
I am a General Contractor and use many different sub-contractors. I have a rule. If you work for me you do not work for my customer directly for the same reason as above. I am not in the introduction business. Annie's is not in the introduction business. If you want that then you go to DIA or Match. Com. That's their business model.
As harsh as that may seem by western standards where prostitution is looked down upon this is Thailand and it's a way of life. The girls have a choice. They obviously must do OK at Annie's or they wouldn't work there. I'm pretty sure the rules are gone over with them before the sign up. And if you're talking about a guy falling in love with a working girl well then the guy has bigger problems.
FN
Don't be silly. Annies is not an introduction agency where Annies get a cut only for the first time you are with a girl.
Annies expects to make the money each and every time, and the assumption is you want the girl for sex purposes. It makes very little difference to the business whether you are spending time with the girl inside or outside the club. Its all the same.
Naturally girls do get to spend there own free time with those who have never been an Annies customer.I go to strip club here in the States. Girl B gives me a dance. Couple days later I start dating said stripper. I no longer go to strip club. Stripper doesn't get fired. Yet they were a "introduction agency".
Maybe I'm just use to the term "free country" since I'm from the USA and believe you have the right to do what ever you want and see who you want, outside of business hours.
Paul Kausch
02-14-13, 02:12
Sounds like I started an interesting discussion and some emotions are coming out. At least happy to see a response from Aey and my respect for her frank statements. It is true not all ladies have their pics on the webpage but it seems there is a lot of pressure and even some fines are applied.
The comparison of "Dreams" I cannot accept: We are speaking not about real estate but about human beings.
Paul Kausch: I also was afraid about the girls identity and changed the day of my visit and "forgot" her number. Also hope she will not suffer because she does not deserve. I made a lot of questions and she just confirmed everything what another very reliable lady (with a longtime Annie experience) already told me last year. Fortunately this girl left Annies some month ago and is living now far away.This was a very stimulating post. Glad you took steps to protect the lady's identity. Good man! I think the issue is where the lady met the man and the nature of the relationship. In my opinion, Annie's has nothing to say about a men the lady met somewhere other than Annie's. If the lady and a former customer enter into a long term romantic relationship, that is a matter of the heart and Annie's has no right to demand compensation. If it is just a matter of a SW and client trying to circumvent the establishment, them I'm on the side of the establishment. People who disagree with me are entitled to there opinions, which I respect.
This is totally unacceptable and nothing less than modern day slavery. What your staff do on their day off is none of your bloody business, that is their free time to do with as they please. Incidentally how do you define "customer of Annie's" somebody who visited once 5 years ago. Their life is tough enough dealing with all sorts of dicks without you trying to control what they do 24/7. If I meet a girl at a brothel and want to see her on her day off go do some shopping have a meal see a show even spend the night with with her that is her right it's her FREE time to do with as she pleases not yours to control as you see fit.If they do it on a working day, I can see an issue with it. On their day off, it is their business and their business alone. Of course here we go into the old management / worker argument again.
Paul Kausch
02-14-13, 05:33
If they do it on a working day, I can see an issue with it. On their day off, it is their business and their business alone. Of course here we go into the old management / worker argument again.So it would have been okay for one of my programmers to spend weekends working on my client's project, getting paid directly by the client circumventing me?
That means in fact that the lady has no choice: Accept our rules or you're fired!There is only one detail more: the girls know the rules BEFORE they start to work its mean if they start to work the accept the rules. They don't know oblut the rules AFTER thy start to work or only when they go out one of rules.
So you want start to work? Yes? Follow the rules.
Don't won't follow the rules? Ok, don't start and good luck.
In many place this kind of rules are the standards.
Ciao!
Franciscass
02-14-13, 07:57
If they do it on a working day, I can see an issue with it. On their day off, it is their business and their business alone. Of course here we go into the old management / worker argument again.Exactly my point. Consider the following. I am at Bangkok Beat or Climax or any number of places that girls go to after work and I meet a girl who works at Annies. I have been to Annies on a few occasions.
But never went with this girl. We strike up a relationship and spend the night together. The next day is her day off and after having lunch we are spotted walking down Sukhumvit, she is reported and fired. Anybody who thinks that's ok has an odd value system. I get the argument about punters trying to circumvent paying the 2500 but this should not prevent the girl spending her free time usually 1 day in 7 with whomever she wants to. You make enough money out of them already Annie cut them a little slack ok.
I having been going to Thailand for a few years and reading forums, including this 1, so I thought it was time I should make a post. This Annies stuff looks like a 50/50 split between people supporting and opposing their policy with the girls. If there are massage places and go-go bars that arent bothered if the girls meet blokes outside can someone give me a list because I want to go to these places and by-pass paying any money to the place and just slip the girl a bit of money instead.
I have been to Annies a few times, but it is not my favourite place. How does the place view if I am sitting in McDonalds and a girl I was with months ago walks past and says hello and gets seen by someone that tells Annie? Does it mean I get a 500 baht slap and the girl gets the sack the next day?
The bloke that posted the first stuff, was it gold digger? If the girl this bloke spoke to was telling the truth why do you need to not tell us who it is? Just a guess but were you trying to skip paying the place and got pissed off when she told you she will lose her job if she does that?
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Exactly my point. Consider the following. I am at Bangkok Beat or Climax or any number of places that girls go to after work and I meet a girl who works at Annies. I have been to Annies on a few occasions.
But never went with this girl. We strike up a relationship and spend the night together. The next day is her day off and after having lunch we are spotted walking down Sukhumvit, she is reported and fired. Anybody who thinks that's ok has an odd value system. I get the argument about punters trying to circumvent paying the 2500 but this should not prevent the girl spending her free time usually 1 day in 7 with whomever she wants to. You make enough money out of them already Annie cut them a little slack ok.Only thing Aey is interested in is MONEY MONEY MONEY. Pure slavery.
FruitNinja
02-14-13, 17:16
So it would have been okay for one of my programmers to spend weekends working on my client's project, getting paid directly by the client circumventing me?You're talking to guys that work for someone. Business owners know. It's guys that are usually out to circumvent the established system so they can benefit financially. Business me know and respect established rules because they realize there is value in 7-11, McDonald's, and Annie's. They have no issue with going to Annie's and reaping the benefit of years of work on Annie's part but given a chance they would cut Annie out of the picture. It's a short sighted view of life.
But at the end of the day, when the girls signed on, they agreed NOT see customers in their off hours. SO if you met her in Bangkok Beat she would probably say,"I'm sorry I can't see you." Now if she honestly had no idea that guy was a Annie's customer or had no reason to believe they were it would be an exception to the rule.
And the reality is that anyone trying to see a girl off hours is trying to circumvent the system for their own gain. The Cheap Charlies. That's my take.
FruitNinja
02-14-13, 17:20
Exactly my point. Consider the following. I am at Bangkok Beat or Climax or any number of places that girls go to after work and I meet a girl who works at Annies. I have been to Annies on a few occasions.
But never went with this girl. We strike up a relationship and spend the night together. The next day is her day off and after having lunch we are spotted walking down Sukhumvit, she is reported and fired. Anybody who thinks that's ok has an odd value system. I get the argument about punters trying to circumvent paying the 2500 but this should not prevent the girl spending her free time usually 1 day in 7 with whomever she wants to. You make enough money out of them already Annie cut them a little slack ok.As with any rule there are exceptions. If the girl had no idea that you were an Annie's customer I can't see that being a problem. I had a good time at Annie's, I'm glad it is there. If every girl did their customers off hours where would Annie's be? Closed. Short term gain for long tern loss. That's why th world economy is f*ked.
Maybe I'm just use to the term "free country" since I'm from the USA and believe you have the right to do what ever you want and see who you want, outside of business hours.Of course that merely makes you naive. Even in the US your action outside of work can and do have implications on your employment.
You're talking to guys that work for someone. Business owners know. It's guys that are usually out to circumvent the established system so they can benefit financially. Business me know and respect established rules because they realize there is value in 7-11, McDonald's, and Annie's. They have no issue with going to Annie's and reaping the benefit of years of work on Annie's part but given a chance they would cut Annie out of the picture. It's a short sighted view of life.
But at the end of the day, when the girls signed on, they agreed NOT see customers in their off hours. SO if you met her in Bangkok Beat she would probably say,"I'm sorry I can't see you." Now if she honestly had no idea that guy was a Annie's customer or had no reason to believe they were it would be an exception to the rule.
And the reality is that anyone trying to see a girl off hours is trying to circumvent the system for their own gain. The Cheap Charlies. That's my take.No, not really. I have been a business owner for years and I would never try to keep my employees from earning extra money during their time away from work.
So it would have been okay for one of my programmers to spend weekends working on my client's project, getting paid directly by the client circumventing me?Tough question. I have no issue with my employees moonlighting, but there is a fine line there. Working on a clients project, well, no, but we are talking about a very different thing here. Say her "customer" takes an interest in her and wants to see her outside of work? Perhaps develop at bit of a relationship? Can't understand why a person would want to date a working girl, but it happens. I see a lot of gray here. It is not purely black and white. If the guy is just trying to get a cheaper lay, then I would agree with you, but I suspect that if he wants to see her outside of work, there is something else afoot.
As with any rule there are exceptions. If the girl had no idea that you were an Annie's customer I can't see that being a problem. I had a good time at Annie's, I'm glad it is there. If every girl did their customers off hours where would Annie's be? Closed. Short term gain for long tern loss. That's why th world economy is f*ked.Treat your employees the same way you would treat your family. Yes, some will take advantage of you, and you will find those quickly and get rid of them, but most will be eternally loyal. As an employer I have always felt very responsible for the well being of my employees and treat them accordingly. I never treat them as "human resources" but as people. When there are downturns I am take the first and deepest cuts. The world economy is f*cked because employers put their own well being far ahead of their employees. To me profit has always been the end result of a well run business. After bills and salaries have been paid.
Wolvenvacht
02-14-13, 21:50
Maybe I'm just use to the term "free country" since I'm from the USA and believe you have the right to do what ever you want and see who you want, outside of business hours.You'd be very very surprised how unfree your free time is. Say, you are a programmer and during your free time you develop some software for someone else (doesn't have to be a customer of your employer) or even for yourself or as Open Source.
Full copyright of that software now rests with your employer. There may be some exceptions (as always) but they are few and far between.
GoldDigger
02-14-13, 22:32
Treat your employees the same way you would treat your family. Yes, some will take advantage of you, and you will find those quickly and get rid of them, but most will be eternally loyal. As an employer I have always felt very responsible for the well being of my employees and treat them accordingly. I never treat them as "human resources" but as people. When there are downturns I am take the first and deepest cuts. The world economy is f*cked because employers put their own well being far ahead of their employees. To me profit has always been the end result of a well run business. After bills and salaries have been paid.I agree in 100. Also run a company in the service sector and employees respect me cause I respect them. They do their part for the good of the company because they know it is good for them. As well as they feel I treat them fair and they do not feel explored they are extremely loyal. I do not care what my employees doing after work as long as they are coming back next day and not too tired to work.
Once again, I can understand Annies rules to not meet customers outside the establishment even not agreeing with this practice. The problem is the interference in their private life. I know some girls who worked or still working in the massage business who never would dare to make parallel business after work. They just want to enjoy party and sometimes they also want to have fun with men which are not customers. Do not forget: At the end they are young girls who stay most time confined in a place with very strict rules where they have to accept all kind of customers and to do things they are not always happy about. Most time they stay in their rooms on free days but sometimes they also want to enjoy life. Also there are not only a few of the girls still dreaming to find a falang tourist outside or the business. Is it fair to not allow this? I knew once a girl in Pat with a long time boyfriend from Canada (she met him before when she worked in a tourist agency). Whenever he came to visit her she paid 6000 Baht per day from her own money to the place she worked to stay with him. She could not use her cumulated free days and was threatened to be fired if she stays with him on her free days. From that money she got back 33 % but that still means she paid 4000 per day.
Other examples show that different business models are possible and successful. The places still make lots of money because they girls preferto work in a safe environment and do not want to work in the Soi or in bars. For me everything is a question of respect. I am sure in the long term only the places will have sustained success which offer a good working environment. Times are changing: Thai economy is going up and less girls are working in the business. We all know that it is getting more and more difficult to see real stunners in places like Annies. The days may come where demand is much higher than offer and the ladies will chose carefully where to work. Annies should not forget: The girls can work without Annies but Annies can not work without the girls.
GoldDigger
02-14-13, 22:44
The bloke that posted the first stuff, was it gold digger? If the girl this bloke spoke to was telling the truth why do you need to not tell us who it is? Just a guess but were you trying to skip paying the place and got pissed off when she told you she will lose her job if she does that?
H[/QUOTE]After knowing about the rules you should know why I am not reveiling the name of the girl. What do think what would happen to her? I also explained that the main source of information was a lady I met several times last year and she is living now quiet happy out of Thailand. Hope her husband never will know what she worked before.
I never tried to skip paying. Frequented Annies many times and never tried to make appointments outside. Just developed a kind of friendship to the lady and she started to tell me about her life during the sessions.
Did anyone try anal with #39 and #41 girl?
FruitNinja
02-15-13, 01:03
I go to strip club here in the States. Girl B gives me a dance. Couple days later I start dating said stripper. I no longer go to strip club. Stripper doesn't get fired. Yet they were a "introduction agency".
Maybe I'm just use to the term "free country" since I'm from the USA and believe you have the right to do what ever you want and see who you want, outside of business hours.Every time you start feeling free in the USA grab a copy of the "Patriot Act" and do some reading. Get online and read about the trampling of freedoms by an over aggressive police state and the complicit judiciary. And finally take a look at "officer friendly" as he walks around in full riot gear looking like the terminator.
Paul Kausch
02-15-13, 01:29
Tough question. I have no issue with my employees moonlighting, but there is a fine line there. Working on a clients project, well, no, but we are talking about a very different thing here. Say her "customer" takes an interest in her and wants to see her outside of work? Perhaps develop at bit of a relationship? Can't understand why a person would want to date a working girl, but it happens. I see a lot of gray here. It is not purely black and white. If the guy is just trying to get a cheaper lay, then I would agree with you, but I suspect that if he wants to see her outside of work, there is something else afoot.I don't see it as a tough question. I mentioned earlier, I had no issue with my programmers working on their projects so long as they didn't circumventing the NDA and it didn't interfere with work. I didn't think I "owned my employees 24/7, but I had no problem expecting my programmers to work around the clock and on weekends to meet a deadline. But I never had to ask. They were professionals who worked as many hours in a day as it took to complete the work in a timely manner. And they knew I was putting in more hours than anyone else in the office.
The issue is what the agreement says. Working for one of my clients behind my back violated the employment agreement. After the contracted work was completed, if the former client wanted to hire one of my employees to work for him, no problem. Annie's girl bangs a customer outside of work so she can pocket all the money and / or the monger can save some money. I'm on Annie's side. The only thing that complicates the picture is if the girl and guy start a serious relationship, in which case I think the girl and Annie's could work out something, but I don't think it would be an issue because even in the unlikely event she continued to work and he continued as an Annie's customer, I doubt they'd be shagging at the establishment.
This whole debate illustrates the problem of using analogies to make arguments. The analogies are never perfect matches. Regarding this matter I think reasonable people need only look at the parties intentions. My point is if the girl and the monger are trying to financially profit by circumventing Annie's, my sympathies are with Annie's.
'Business me know' . You sound like a socialist. Are you a Frenchman Depardieu-ing it down there in south east asia?
Well, that's exactly how its done in capitalist economies. Grab as many clients you as can and start your own shop. Yep, this little Thai girl is just fucking the world economy allright and wreaking havoc on the soi of sin. HA!
If the owners can't fend off a little poorly educated Issan girl then they should begin praying that she's jai dee and hires them when she opens HER shop.
As with any rule there are exceptions. If the girl had no idea that you were an Annie's customer I can't see that being a problem. I had a good time at Annie's, I'm glad it is there. If every girl did their customers off hours where would Annie's be? Closed. Short term gain for long tern loss. That's why th world economy is f*ked.
Did anyone try anal with #39 and #41 girl?Don't know about number 41 but I can confirm that 39 will do Anal. This was covered in my post on the lady previously in this thread and I asked her permission for the original post and this one also, enjoy.
Regards,
BJ
Franciscass
02-15-13, 10:25
Now if she honestly had no idea that guy was a Annie's customer or had no reason to believe they were it would be an exception to the rule.
You visit Annies once and what you get a brand on your ass "Annies Customer Do Not Touch".
And the reality is that anyone trying to see a girl off hours is trying to circumvent the system for their own gain. The Cheap Charlies. That's my take.What makes you so certain. Personally I find it hard to imagine anybody wanting to have a relationship with any of the crew there but I have no doubth there could be and not just to avoid IMHO the excessive fee one pays visiting the place. Cheap Charlies there are for sure but they are relatively rare in my experience. If he was willing to pay 2500 in the first place most likely he is not one. Anyway I'm sure Annie is laughing all the way to the bank with all the chatter traffic she is getting.
Only thing Aey is interested in is MONEY MONEY MONEY. Pure slavery.You better stop using this word "slavery" too easily.
I am not sure that it is "slavery" since the girl knows the rules, can enrol with Annies on her free will, can resign from annies on her free will, and can choose which is the best way to work. Some prefer to be SW, or hang on on the Biergarden, other CHOOSE to work in an MP like Annies. Slavery? You don't know what you are talking about.
I think I didn't make my first post as it was meant. I was trying to make a funny point about the members saying it is unfair on the girls that they are not allowed to meet customers after hours or on their days off. I agree with the policy Annie has, it is the same as a lot of places in Bangkok. If this rule did not exist then surely the flood gates would open and the girls would be arranging with people all over the place to meet them and not pay the business tharefore the business will lose more and more money and might shut down because of this. Where would we all be then?
I know go-go bars have a policy where you can buy the girl out which means she is free to come to work when she wants and the guy doesn't have to pay bar fine again. I have only been to Annies 4 or 5 times in 4 years (I prefer oilie places) but it might be worth asking if they have a same policy.
DfpDfp and Franciscass both say this is slavery? I think that is absurd. The business sets the rules and the girls agree to the rules before they start work there. If you don't want to follow the rules then don't work there. Annie is only concerned about money, isn't that the same for any business? No money eventually means no business and the girls have no job! The money for a business like this starts with the girls giving the best service they can, this will only come from girls being happy and having a good attitude and waht makes Thai girls happy is making good money. When they make good money they are happy, when they are happy they give good service, when they give good service the customers are happy, when the customers are happy they keep coming back, when they keep coming back the business and in turn the ladies make MONEY. So I agree Annie is all about MONEY.
On the Bangkok thread people are saying there is fierce competition for girls in the go-go bars, Annie doesn't look like they are struggling for girls. I was there in the evening on my last trip just a few months ago. As for fining the girls for not having a picture on the website I think this is a figment of this guys imagination, surely they wouldn't stay there if that was true.
Gold digger it looks like you are backtracking on when you spoke to the girl. First it was recently, then it was a few weeks and then it was some time last year?
I used to own a recruitment agency in London and we had the same system of rules that Annie and Paul Kausch have. If someone on our books tried to make a deal with an employer by-passing the agency the person was deleted off our books and we did not do business with the employer ever again. When this practice became known the number of times this problem came up was vastly reduced. As for keeping her identity a secret how did she do anything wrong by just telling you what the rules are, if indeed these are the rules?
I am still looking for the list of places that do not have this rule so I can get it cheaper.
H
FruitNinja
02-16-13, 07:03
'Business me know'. You sound like a socialist. Are you a Frenchman Depardieu-ing it down there in south east asia?
Well, that's exactly how its done in capitalist economies. Grab as many clients you as can and start your own shop. Yep, this little Thai girl is just fucking the world economy allright and wreaking havoc on the soi of sin. HA!
If the owners can't fend off a little poorly educated Issan girl then they should begin praying that she's jai dee and hires them when she opens HER shop.This forum is in English for a reason. So that we have one language, so that we can communicate. I have no idea what your message said. If your having problems I suggest google translate. Your babbling sounded like what you would hera from a drunk man.
FruitNinja
02-16-13, 07:06
No, not really. I have been a business owner for years and I would never try to keep my employees from earning extra money during their time away from work.You must have been sick during Business 101.
That's why companies get into exclusive agreements. Take a look at Apples Model. Are they slavers too? Naivetι!
FruitNinja
02-16-13, 07:09
I go to strip club here in the States. Girl B gives me a dance. Couple days later I start dating said stripper. I no longer go to strip club. Stripper doesn't get fired. Yet they were a "introduction agency".
Maybe I'm just use to the term "free country" since I'm from the USA and believe you have the right to do what ever you want and see who you want, outside of business hours.What other country does this to their citizens.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/16/technology/rise-of-drones-in-us-spurs-efforts-to-limit-uses.html?hpw&_r=0
I'm amazed how many people don't see whats going on in front of their eyes.
You must have been sick during Business 101.
That's why companies get into exclusive agreements. Take a look at Apples Model. Are they slavers too? Naivetι!Not at all. I would say that there is a real difference here. Nope not naive at all. I have run several successful businesses and have never had employee issues. That is because I treat them the way I would want to be treated, again like family. When you start looking at people like human resources is when you get into trouble. Put them first and you will be a success.
FruitNinja
02-16-13, 11:07
Not at all. I would say that there is a real difference here. Nope not naive at all. I have run several successful businesses and have never had employee issues. That is because I treat them the way I would want to be treated, again like family. When you start looking at people like human resources is when you get into trouble. Put them first and you will be a success.I am a success. I have sub-contractors that have been with me for 20 plus years. I am involved in all aspects of their lives. I have loaned them money, been there for them during deaths, births, operations, and anything else that life has dished out. Supportive. Maybe the difference here is you "have run." I still run the business I started 20 plus years ago. It's common understanding in the business world when an employee does an end around and contracts directly with your customer its wrong. I don't know how you can call yourself a businessman and not see or understand that.
It's probably forbidden in every employee manual. There are non-compete agreements that follow employees after they are separated from a company. Some tech companies even have rights to your designs whether you did them at work or at home because the courts have ruled that way. I mean why is it different in this scenario? Because it's pussy? It's plain and simple. If she doesn't want to abide by the rules then she takes her ass and freelances with all the other hotties in the parking lot of the Nana Hotel. I'm sure those girls live the life. How did they get to the parking lot? But if she wants the protection and environment that Annie's provides at considerable cost then she has to abide by the rules she agreed to abide by. I'm know nothing about Thai contract law but if in doubt always fall back to fairness.
FN
Personally I find it hard to imagine anybody wanting to have a relationship with any of the crew there but I have no doubth there could be and not just to avoid IMHO the excessive fee one pays visiting the place. Cheap Charlies there are for sure but they are relatively rare in my experience. If he was willing to pay 2500 in the first place most likely he is not one. Anyway I'm sure Annie is laughing all the way to the bank with all the chatter traffic she is getting.I find it hard to imagine guys not wanting to have a relationship with the women they choose. Because guys usually choose women they really like. Once you like the woman and she has sex with you, then it's just a slippery slope that can lead all the way to a relationship. That's how it normally works.
It's possible for a guy to resist his urge to have a relationship with the woman he likes. And he can do things to prevent himself from falling for her. But the urge is always there for any guy who gets to choose a woman he likes out of many women. Because she is such a good match for his wants, needs, and desires.
But the thing some people miss in this discussion is that no self-respecting P4P woman who works at Annie's Massage will go for free with a guy and continue to have sex with him. Getting paid at least as much as other women get paid is a matter of personal honor for a woman in Thailand. It's a matter of social status for them. There is always money involved, and this makes it a business transaction and not just a personal relationship.
It's hard to make fair rules, when both business and personal feelings are involved. But some rules are clearly needed for a business to function well.
In my own example, my massage lady persuaded me to take her full-time with me and pay the money directly to her. And she probably called in sick to her massage parlor so that she didn't need to come to work. I can say for sure that this massage parlor lost some money as a result. Because my initial intention was to keep coming back to this massage parlor every day to see this woman and keep paying their regular fees.
I am a success. I have sub-contractors that have been with me for 20 plus years. I am involved in all aspects of their lives. I have loaned them money, been there for them during deaths, births, operations, and anything else that life has dished out. Supportive. Maybe the difference here is you "have run." I still run the business I started 20 plus years ago. It's common understanding in the business world when an employee does an end around and contracts directly with your customer its wrong. I don't know how you can call yourself a businessman and not see or understand that.
It's probably forbidden in every employee manual. There are non-compete agreements that follow employees after they are separated from a company. Some tech companies even have rights to your designs whether you did them at work or at home because the courts have ruled that way. I mean why is it different in this scenario? Because it's pussy? It's plain and simple. If she doesn't want to abide by the rules then she takes her ass and freelances with all the other hotties in the parking lot of the Nana Hotel. I'm sure those girls live the life. How did they get to the parking lot? But if she wants the protection and environment that Annie's provides at considerable cost then she has to abide by the rules she agreed to abide by. I'm know nothing about Thai contract law but if in doubt always fall back to fairness.
FNI have run a successful business in a foreign country for over a decade and before that one in the US, and that is far harder than running it in the one's home country. When it comes to interpersonal relationships as opposed to a business like say, software design. I don't think any of Annie's girls would be seen in the Nana lot, but hey if a dude wants to take them to dinner on their night off and they have sex, so be it.
What other country does this to their citizens.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/16/technology/rise-of-drones-in-us-spurs-efforts-to-limit-uses.html?hpw&_r=0
I'm amazed how many people don't see whats going on in front of their eyes.I for one don't do anything against the law, so I don't mind the surveillance. The economy has forced budget cuts in all fields of employment and this just makes law enforcement jobs easier.
Now you will have the guy that says "Big Brother in the SKY". Well if you ain't doing anything wrong you don't have anything to worry about, do you? It makes our country safer with less manpower on the ground. With drones in the air we are still more of a FREE COUNTRY than 99. 9% of the world.
It's like all the people that were crying about the full body X-ray screening process at airports. People were saying its too intrusive, yet if someone boards the plane and blows you or a family member up. First to blame is airport security. Cause people didn't want the xray machine cause it showed body outline. Trust me we don't give a shit if you're a fat fuck or a anorexic we are trying to push you through just as fast as you want to go through but it makes flying safer for everyone.
Wolvenvacht
02-17-13, 08:58
I for one don't do anything against the law, so I don't mind the surveillance. The economy has forced budget cuts in all fields of employment and this just makes law enforcement jobs easier.So you would not mind police or government reading your letters or email and posting a summary of your messages and which websites you have been visiting because "you don't do anything against the law"? Adding some drones will add your visits to massage places to the summary for all to see as well.
You really don't get it, do you? All this surveillance "because of budget cuts" and other such absolutely wrong reasons is a dangerous slippery slope downwards to a police state. You should read "1984" once more. Perhaps you will understand then.
Are you so sure about your own arguments?? Why don't you use your *real* name here? You are not doing anything against the law, are you?
Anyone knows a good address for some light AA? I want to keep these pesky drones out of my personal airspace if hey don't have a search warrant!
Paul Kausch
02-17-13, 09:23
So you would not mind police or government reading your letters or email and posting a summary of your messages and which websites you have been visiting because "you don't do anything against the law"? Adding some drones will add your visits to massage places to the summary for all to see as well.
You really don't get it, do you? All this surveillance "because of budget cuts" and other such absolutely wrong reasons is a dangerous slippery slope downwards to a police state. You should read "1984" once more. Perhaps you will understand then.
Are you so sure about your own arguments? Why don't you use your *real* name here? You are not doing anything against the law, are you?
Anyone knows a good address for some light AA? I want to keep these pesky drones out of my personal airspace if hey don't have a search warrant!I skimmed an article yesterday that claims the USA government has officially decreed that in accordance with the Homeland Security Act the Fourth Amendment is not applicable within 100 miles of the nations borders. Odd, wouldn't that make the Homeland Security Act at least in part unconstitutional? Don't recall where I read it, but it was not the Onion.
I came here to find the latest about Annies for my impending trip through BKK.
Silly me.
I had to scroll through to Page 2 before Annies got a mention and even then it was someone slagging off about Aey.
I understand about the discussion and the rights and wrongs but you are NOT going to change anything through this forum.
C'mon guys. Back on topic please.
Crazy4Thai
02-17-13, 09:52
I came here to find the latest about Annies for my impending trip through BKK.
Silly me.
I had to scroll through to Page 2 before Annies got a mention and even then it was someone slagging off about Aey.
C'mon guys. Back on topic please.Silly you indeed. Even though I'm an expat in Thailand I lurk the PI forum just to read real monger reports. That's just the way it is on this board. But if you sift through enough bs there are some good recommendations for Annie's. Go to their website first then try a search on here for comments on the one that you like. I also pm'd Aey about my choice and she confirmed that I'd probably be happy. I tried her and was.
we are still more of a FREE COUNTRY than 99. 9% of the world.It's funny how guys can still believe such crap.
A free country, for example, to take an example close to our hobby, where you are being obliged to show everything on your PC when coming back home? And if there are pornographic pictures (of legal age girls, of course) , you are still detained for hours and have to explain what you did with whom and when? And free, a country which, in some states, still prohibits anal sex, between consenting adults?
C'on, mate, wake up!
It's funny how guys can still believe such crap.
A free country, for example, to take an example close to our hobby, where you are being obliged to show everything on your PC when coming back home? And if there are pornographic pictures (of legal age girls, of course) , you are still detained for hours and have to explain what you did with whom and when? And free, a country which, in some states, still prohibits anal sex, between consenting adults?
C'on, mate, wake up!I think most people in USA believed that they had the freest country in the world, even when they had slavery. Because US slaves made up only a small portion for the US population.
And then USA continued to have widespread civil rights violations for blacks for a long time. And most people in USA continued to believe that they had the freest country in the world anyway.
And it's the same thing now. Now, USA has the highest per capita prison population in the world. But many people in USA continue to believe that they have the freest country in the world anyway.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_pri_per_cap-crime-prisoners-per-capita
This kind of belief is called patriotism. People tend to stand up for their country, regardless of whether their country is right or wrong. And this isn't just in USA. People in many other countries are like this too.
But this discussion has little to do with Annie's Massage. Some people are always going to be patriots of their own country. Which means that they will praise the virtues of their country and put down other countries to make themselves feel better, even when they travel abroad in a country like Thailand.
Silly you indeed. Even though I'm an expat in Thailand I lurk the PI forum just to read real monger reports. That's just the way it is on this board. But if you sift through enough bs there are some good recommendations for Annie's. Go to their website first then try a search on here for comments on the one that you like. I also pm'd Aey about my choice and she confirmed that I'd probably be happy. I tried her and was.Thanks C4T.
I have been to Annie's twice already and, in fact, the lovely Aey looked after me on my last visit extremely well.
I was just seeking a short cut through the bs to find some good recommendations but I guess I will just go straight to the website and then talk with Aey on arrival.
Hopefully the "chest-thumpers" aka silverbacks will tire of the bs and get back on topic eventually.
Thanks C4T.
I have been to Annie's twice already and, in fact, the lovely Aey looked after me on my last visit extremely well.
I was just seeking a short cut through the bs to find some good recommendations but I guess I will just go straight to the website and then talk with Aey on arrival.
Hopefully the "chest-thumpers" aka silverbacks will tire of the bs and get back on topic eventually.If you go back far enough there are some good girl reports, unfortunately far too few, as the thread is clogged now with bullshit re how to run a business, where the advice is certainly not wanted. Would be nice if posters got back to girl reports, and the non-customers found some other thread to load with their shit.
My favourite, No. 24, is often not available, so I always book in advance.
Crazy4Thai
02-17-13, 12:30
Thanks C4T.
I have been to Annie's twice already and, in fact, the lovely Aey looked after me on my last visit extremely well.
I was just seeking a short cut through the bs to find some good recommendations but I guess I will just go straight to the website and then talk with Aey on arrival.
Hopefully the "chest-thumpers" aka silverbacks will tire of the bs and get back on topic eventually.I will repeat when I get the chance. My choice was popular so called and I booked in advance. Maybe you'll have a recommendation for us.
FruitNinja
02-17-13, 12:53
If you go back far enough there are some good girl reports, unfortunately far too few, as the thread is clogged now with bullshit re how to run a business, where the advice is certainly not wanted. Would be nice if posters got back to girl reports, and the non-customers found some other thread to load with their shit.
My favourite, No. 24, is often not available, so I always book in advance.The woman is an animal. Next time you see her ask her who gives the best massages.
Thanks C4T.
I have been to Annie's twice already and, in fact, the lovely Aey looked after me on my last visit extremely well.
I was just seeking a short cut through the bs to find some good recommendations but I guess I will just go straight to the website and then talk with Aey on arrival.
Hopefully the "chest-thumpers" aka silverbacks will tire of the bs and get back on topic eventually.Happy to oblige. Number 41 has a nice body, very pretty face, can perform DT and pulsate her throat when she does, enjoy.
Regards.
BJ
I was beginning to think Annies was running the drone program, but now I realize it was only a fake. To many people building up thread counts with BS. We should all try to find the proper place to have our say. Like that will happen, LOL.
I think I didn't make my first post as it was meant. I was trying to make a funny point about the members saying it is unfair on the girls that they are not allowed to meet customers after hours or on their days off. I agree with the policy Annie has, it is the same as a lot of places in Bangkok. If this rule did not exist then surely the flood gates would open and the girls would be arranging with people all over the place to meet them and not pay the business tharefore the business will lose more and more money and might shut down because of this. Where would we all be then?
I know go-go bars have a policy where you can buy the girl out which means she is free to come to work when she wants and the guy doesn't have to pay bar fine again. I have only been to Annies 4 or 5 times in 4 years (I prefer oilie places) but it might be worth asking if they have a same policy.
DfpDfp and Franciscass both say this is slavery? I think that is absurd. The business sets the rules and the girls agree to the rules before they start work there. If you don't want to follow the rules then don't work there. Annie is only concerned about money, isn't that the same for any business? No money eventually means no business and the girls have no job! The money for a business like this starts with the girls giving the best service they can, this will only come from girls being happy and having a good attitude and waht makes Thai girls happy is making good money. When they make good money they are happy, when they are happy they give good service, when they give good service the customers are happy, when the customers are happy they keep coming back, when they keep coming back the business and in turn the ladies make MONEY. So I agree Annie is all about MONEY.
On the Bangkok thread people are saying there is fierce competition for girls in the go-go bars, Annie doesn't look like they are struggling for girls. I was there in the evening on my last trip just a few months ago. As for fining the girls for not having a picture on the website I think this is a figment of this guys imagination, surely they wouldn't stay there if that was true.
Gold digger it looks like you are backtracking on when you spoke to the girl. First it was recently, then it was a few weeks and then it was some time last year?
I used to own a recruitment agency in London and we had the same system of rules that Annie and Paul Kausch have. If someone on our books tried to make a deal with an employer by-passing the agency the person was deleted off our books and we did not do business with the employer ever again. When this practice became known the number of times this problem came up was vastly reduced. As for keeping her identity a secret how did she do anything wrong by just telling you what the rules are, if indeed these are the rules?
I am still looking for the list of places that do not have this rule so I can get it cheaper.
HDfpDfp and Franciscass both say this is slavery? I think that is absurd.
As I see my name mentioned then I better reply. A girl from Annies meet a customer and the girl and the customer get along very well. So well that they start to be "romantically" involved (if that is the word). But never mind. The customer is interested in the girl and promises to take care of her for the rest of her life. Let us just say that.
So why should the customer pay a "dowry" to Annie's? Please explain that. If Aey wants to collect THB 200, 000- or whatever is the going rate, then in my opinion it is slavery. It is a free country after all and the girl can just leave, what should stop her? Loyalty to Aey? I doubt it. Or maybe the girl gets a share of the cut?
Just a few words. But I am totally against this kind of business or let us call it slavery. Aey has only one thing on her mind and that is MONEY. I do happen to know some of the former Annies girls.
Happy to oblige. Number 41 has a nice body, very pretty face, can perform DT and pulsate her throat when she does, enjoy.Number 41 truly shines: she has both playfulness and deep passion in her, small spinner body and classic features. She kept on working until the buzzer sounded and even past it. True devotion! Book her with number 39 if you want a threesome and you will be in middle of a mockery cat fight.
Annie's has a great thing going! Next I think I'll pay Dr's salon a visit. Do I recall correctly that E used to be at Annie's back in 2011?
DfpDfp and Franciscass both say this is slavery? I think that is absurd.
Aey has only one thing on her mind and that is MONEY.You are surely right.
Because anyone taking the time, effort, risks, to run a business does it for. MONEY!
Why do you work? For free?
Do you think that all the other shops, Dr BJ, Mango etc. Do it for the beauty of the job?
Let's be serious, and not make absurd socalled "moral" comments.
Annies' girls are free to move out anytime if they don't like the rules at Annies. And they can go with their Farang if they choose so. And then end up on the Nana car park once he will have dumped her.
Or she can choose to stay within the safe environement provided at Annies. Her choice. Not slavery.
And yes, let us all make as much money as we can.
I was beginning to think Annies was running the drone program, but now I realize it was only a fake. To many people building up thread counts with BS. We should all try to find the proper place to have our say. Like that will happen, LOL.Can you write that in plain English? Or maybe you don't want us to understand really what your point is?
Annie's has a great thing going! Next I think I'll pay Dr's salon a visit. Do I recall correctly that E used to be at Annie's back in 2011?Correct. She has been debated here too, at that time.
Hi,
I am new to this forum and also am going to Thailand for the first time. I intend to go to Annie's and have been seeing the forum. Has been very informative "Thank you everyone for the information".
I have seen people talk about DATY and DFK. And was just wondering if it is safe to perform these with the girls at Annie's. Understand that they do go through health checkups but just wanted to confirm, if it is OK to perform them with the girls here?
Hi,
I am new to the forum and am going to Thailand for the first time. I would love to visit Annie's and have been noticing people talking about DATY and DFK here. Is it safe to DATY and DFK with the girls at Annies?
Not to offend anyone. But just curious and like I said its the first time I am going to Thailand.
FruitNinja
02-19-13, 17:19
Can you write that in plain English? Or maybe you don't want us to understand really what your point is?I think it was his way of trying to get us back on topic.
Scorchin1470
02-19-13, 17:49
Hi,
I am new to the forum and am going to Thailand for the first time. I would love to visit Annie's and have been noticing people talking about DATY and DFK here. Is it safe to DATY and DFK with the girls at Annies?What is safe? What are the chances of catching an STD through 1,000 different sexual activities?
Nothing is 100 percent safe. But what risks are you prepared to take?
Hi,
I am new to the forum and am going to Thailand for the first time. I would love to visit Annie's and have been noticing people talking about DATY and DFK here. Is it safe to DATY and DFK with the girls at Annies?Always a danger of catching a cold or flu virus, just as normal. These are not specially dangerous activities for catching STDs and Annies girls will not be more dangerous than normal. In fact "normal" girls may be taking less precautions.
No one ever got Aids from these activities, so just have fun!
I just had to go back again although I was dead set on doing Dr. BJ's on Tuesday (make Tuesday your BJ-day!).
Number 36 was a slow starter but a did brilliant job in the end. But maybe it's just me: after a few months since my last FKK visit I just find everything a bliss and the girls all [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) honey. Well, I'll try to cure my Annie-fever by spending 10 days at Pattaya (unless I meet an Isan / Buriram / Surin princess and start building a house for her family).
Shadow6491
02-20-13, 01:07
Every guy has different likes and dislikes and back when I was a lot younger and in my mongering young days I wouldn't mind a GFE and I have DFK and DATY before. These days I don't even want to kiss the girl on the lips. There are a few exceptions of course.
But just remember that girl could have had her tongue in my arse just 10 min before you. Guys think this doesn't happen it happens all the time. It happened to a couple a friends of mine a few years back. We were sitting around the bar talking and one guy was saying how he had this hot girl the night before and all the things they did together he described the girl and a friend asked him what time and where did you meet her. Then informed him that he had just done a ST with her prior and dropped her at that bar only 10 min before they met and he then went home. We now have a little pet name for it as it happens that often.
Every guy has different likes and dislikes and back when I was a lot younger and in my mongering young days I wouldn't mind a GFE and I have DFK and DATY before. These days I don't even want to kiss the girl on the lips. There are a few exceptions of course.
But just remember that girl could have had her tongue in my arse just 10 min before you. Guys think this doesn't happen it happens all the time. It happened to a couple a friends of mine a few years back. We were sitting around the bar talking and one guy was saying how he had this hot girl the night before and all the things they did together he described the girl and a friend asked him what time and where did you meet her. Then informed him that he had just done a ST with her prior and dropped her at that bar only 10 min before they met and he then went home. We now have a little pet name for it as it happens that often.Thats why they invented Listerine.
Always a danger of catching a cold or flu virus, just as normal. These are not specially dangerous activities for catching STDs and Annies girls will not be more dangerous than normal. In fact "normal" girls may be taking less precautions.
No one ever got Aids from these activities, so just have fun! No risk of STD from DATY? OK.
Pinche Gringo
02-20-13, 02:33
I hope that was written in Sarcasm Syzgies. As a medical doctor, I can tell you that you can very well catch STI's from oral sex. The female vagina is one huge mucous site that STI's love to live in.
Always a danger of catching a cold or flu virus, just as normal. These are not specially dangerous activities for catching STDs and Annies girls will not be more dangerous than normal. In fact "normal" girls may be taking less precautions.
No one ever got Aids from these activities, so just have fun!
Every guy has different likes and dislikes and back when I was a lot younger and in my mongering young days I wouldn't mind a GFE and I have DFK and DATY before. These days I don't even want to kiss the girl on the lips. There are a few exceptions of course.
But just remember that girl could have had her tongue in my arse just 10 min before you. Guys think this doesn't happen it happens all the time. It happened to a couple a friends of mine a few years back. We were sitting around the bar talking and one guy was saying how he had this hot girl the night before and all the things they did together he described the girl and a friend asked him what time and where did you meet her. Then informed him that he had just done a ST with her prior and dropped her at that bar only 10 min before they met and he then went home. We now have a little pet name for it as it happens that often.Not sure why that bothers guys. These girls tend to be public domain so to speak. Of course they are with other men and do quite a few things with those men. A quick shower and a splash of Listerine and they are as good as new. I know guys who have been long term residents and still get uncomfortable when they find out guys they know have done or are doing a prostitute they are seeing. Delusional.
Hi,
I am new to this forum and also am going to Thailand for the first time. I intend to go to Annie's and have been seeing the forum. Has been very informative "Thank you everyone for the information".
I have seen people talk about DATY and DFK. And was just wondering if it is safe to perform these with the girls at Annie's. Understand that they do go through health checkups but just wanted to confirm, if it is OK to perform them with the girls here?Sex is risky, in many different ways. STDs are just one risk. Warts and herpes are a risk even if you wear a condom. In the US it is estimated that at least one in six sexually active adults carry herpes. I would imagine that among BKK sex workers, the rate is far higher. Other wee beasties such as colds and gut bugs are out there as well. Just have to ask yourself if the risk is worth it? For most hobbyists, I think it is. If you are constantly worried about safety and are risk averse then I would suggest P4P is not for you.
Hi,
I am new to this forum and also am going to Thailand for the first time. I intend to go to Annie's and have been seeing the forum. Has been very informative "Thank you everyone for the information".
I have seen people talk about DATY and DFK. And was just wondering if it is safe to perform these with the girls at Annie's. Understand that they do go through health checkups but just wanted to confirm, if it is OK to perform them with the girls here?A health checkup probably involves a visual check of the lady's body for possible signs of a sexually transmitted disease, asking her questions about her pains and aches, and other symptoms that might come from a sexually transmitted disease, and doing a blood test for HIV and possibly for Hepatitis B and C.
This kind of a health check up will miss an infection that doesn't yet cause any symptoms and hasn't yet affected the immune system to produce a positive blood test. Such a health check up for the ladies only reduces your chances of getting infected, but some risk still remains. And unprotected oral sex is risky in terms of possibly getting infected.
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/19/how_risky_is_oral_sex/
I suggest that you do DATY on your lady with your hand instead of with your mouth, because unbroken skin will protect you from getting infected, as long as you wash well your hands before you touch your eyes or your cock.
Sexually transmitted microorganisms cannot infect through intact skin. They can only infect through mucous membranes or through broken skin. Which means that you can safely massage your lady's pussy in a DATY kind of way with well-lubricated fingers and hand.
This is my favorite way of sexually exciting my lady. It works real well, perhaps even better than the conventional DATY. Because you can do even better and more with your fingers and hand than you can with your mouth and lips. Your hand doesn't get tired, the way your tongue can get tired. And it feels pretty good too on your hand. Your fingers are built to sense fine shapes and textures, perhaps even better than your tongue. You can sense more with your fingers and hand than you can with your mouth. Your mouth is best only for tasting but not for touch or manipulation.
A health checkup probably involves a visual check of the lady's body for possible signs of a sexually transmitted disease, asking her questions about her pains and aches, and other symptoms that might come from a sexually transmitted disease, and doing a blood test for HIV and possibly for Hepatitis B and C.I think there is a danger here of giving this guy the panics. Yes there is a possibility, if you are very unlucky, That you could catch something from the first girl you spend time with after eating her out. To put this into perspective Luvpuss, by his own admission, Has been sticking every part of himself into every possible orifice the girls were prepared to tolerate over a number of years and only come unstuck once with a minor and easily curable STD. IMO don't get caught up with what might go wrong, provided you take reasonable precautions, indulge and enjoy.
Luvpuss, please correct me if I have misquoted you.
Regards,
BJ
Shadow6491
02-21-13, 01:05
But to give an honest and balanced answer read all the posts below and summarize them.
You can catch STD from oral anything
"As a medical doctor, I can tell you that you can very well catch STI's from oral sex. The female vagina is one huge mucous site that STI's love to live in."
"Sexually transmitted microorganisms cannot infect through intact skin. They can only infect through mucous membranes or through broken skin."
A quick wash with Listerine will not stop STD's it may lower the chance if you are lucky.
"IMO don't get caught up with what might go wrong, provided you take reasonable precautions, indulge and enjoy"
But do ask yourself why are you doing this? To please yourself or her. If the answer is for her don't do it. You are paying let her do the things that you like. She won't think any less of you. Just because she gives you a BJ doesn't mean you have to return the favor. Its not the west.
Well, here is my chance to give back to the monger club so lets start-
Visited SW around noonish time, looked at couple of girls including Bonus who is a bit too dark for my tastes and settled on Ploy. She has very good boody and B cup natural breasts so choosing her was indeed the right move. Room was basic but service was top notich. She was open to everything and co-operated fully in the bed. Gave very good long slurrpy BJ. Was very receptiove to DATY. She has braces and does look OK. 5/10. The sex was awesome. However there is one thing that spooked me big time, she has what seems like warts. On the thigh, not right at vagina but I was spooked never the less. She said it is a result of having baby which may be true but it did diminish my enjoyment a lot. Otherwise, she is the best looking girl I have had in this trip so far. Highly recommended.
More to come later.
A quick wash with Listerine will not stop STD's it may lower the chance if you are lucky.I wonder if I understand this article correctly:
http://www.mendeley.com/catalog/efficacy-listerine-antiseptic-reducing-viral-contamination-saliva/
You would really need to rinse your mouth before and not after exposure and, to be on the safe side, do it every 30 minutes or so. Would this apply to other viruses as well? And what happens to natural antibodies (lgA) that you have in your saliva? It would be interesting to see a study where carriers of various STDs would partake in clinical experiments involving oral sex.
But do ask yourself why are you doing this? To please yourself or her. If the answer is for her don't do it. You are paying let her do the things that you like. She won't think any less of you. Just because she gives you a BJ doesn't mean you have to return the favor. Its not the west.In my experience DATY can sometimes affect the attitude of the girl and change a session for the better. Some girls like receiving it and some don't. I guess it is an issue of giving up control, too, so you would have to build up trust between yourself and the girl first.
Some of us have that genetic makeup to downplay the risks in your mind when we are about to do something risky or dangerous. At least I do it all the time. I have been giving DATY to sex workers (about 20-40 sessions annually) for years and have been lucky so far. I bet when I catch something nasty or incurable I will feel sorry. Now, there's a thought!
I think there is a danger here of giving this guy the panics. Yes there is a possibility, if you are very unlucky, That you could catch something from the first girl you spend time with after eating her out. To put this into perspective Luvpuss, by his own admission, Has been sticking every part of himself into every possible orifice the girls were prepared to tolerate over a number of years and only come unstuck once with a minor and easily curable STD. IMO don't get caught up with what might go wrong, provided you take reasonable precautions, indulge and enjoy.
Luvpuss, please correct me if I have misquoted you.
Regards,
BJ
The problem with being less than cautious and seemingly getting away with it is that a number of sexually transmitted diseases can infect you for a long time without causing any symptoms.
You can have a sexually transmitted disease that slowly damages our body and not know about it for a long time. Syphilis is one of them, so is HIV, HPV (Human Papilloma Virus) , Herpes, and even Chlamydia. Gonorrhea usually causes symptoms, but now multi-drug resistant strains of Gonorrhea are coming out. And knowing about it is no longer any guarantee that you can cure it.
I learned over the years that I always get my best medical advice on a site devoted for looking for sex!:confused:
But do ask yourself why are you doing this? To please yourself or her. If the answer is for her don't do it. You are paying let her do the things that you like. She won't think any less of you. Just because she gives you a BJ doesn't mean you have to return the favor. Its not the west.I find it hard to believe that a guy would do DATY just to please the lady, when he finds no pleasure in it for himself. Pleasure doesn't need to be physical. It can be mental and emotional. And that's the kind of pleasure a guy feels, when he gropes his lady with his hands and makes her orgasm with DATY or in some other way.
Guys usually find it a real pleasure just to grope their lady's body with their hands. And doing DATY with your mouth on the lady's pussy is a similar kind of pleasure. A guy would need to be gay not to enjoy touching his lady this way.
Wow. That is a lot of information. Appreciate the help. Will probably go with the flow and see how it goes.
The problem with being less than cautious and seemingly getting away with it is that a number of sexually transmitted diseases can infect you for a long time without causing any symptoms.
You can have a sexually transmitted disease that slowly damages our body and not know about it for a long time. Syphilis is one of them, so is HIV, HPV (Human Papilloma Virus) , Herpes, and even Chlamydia. Gonorrhea usually causes symptoms, but now multi-drug resistant strains of Gonorrhea are coming out. And knowing about it is no longer any guarantee that you can cure it.But most of the diseases you have sited cannot be caught via performing oral sex or kissing. Anyhow I think the original poster who posed the question has as much credible information as he is going to get from a forum of this kind. IMO this discussion has run it's course, especially considering the title of this thread.
Regards,
BJ
Well, here is my chance to give back to the monger club so lets start-
Visited SW around noonish time, looked at couple of girls including Bonus who is a bit too dark for my tastes and settled on Ploy. She has very good boody and B cup natural breasts so choosing her was indeed the right move. Room was basic but service was top notich. She was open to everything and co-operated fully in the bed. Gave very good long slurrpy BJ. Was very receptiove to DATY. She has braces and does look OK. 5/10. The sex was awesome. However there is one thing that spooked me big time, she has what seems like warts. On the thigh, not right at vagina but I was spooked never the less. She said it is a result of having baby which may be true but it did diminish my enjoyment a lot. Otherwise, she is the best looking girl I have had in this trip so far. Highly recommended.
More to come later.Unfortunately I see warts on quite a few girls. When I tell them they have a problem and need to go to the Dr, the usual response is "mai pen rai."
As I said in the main thread. Thought it was all way too cold and pushy by the woman in charge, when we were looking for a bit. Talent was average at best, one pretty one for sure, but got snapped up ahead of us.
If I compared this with Darling 1 of Macau, then quite simply they are light years apart and not rushed at all and the girls were total stunners too.
Seems like what's been wrote in this thread about Annies of late, is fairly accurate. That was my first visit and probably my last, only across the road in Majestic Grande too, such a shame.
If I compared this with Darling 1 of Macau, then quite simply they are light years apart and not rushed at all and the girls were total stunners too.I am afraid that comparing anything with the top Macau saunas, that will loose. It is simply, as you out it, light years ahead, and one should not expect something comparable, to be honest.
Don't know what your expectations were on Annie's, but they deliver an honest soap massage service, with all what you can have in term of services. Might not have a all stunners line up, and we all know sometime a miss can happen. Might give a bitter taste, but one should look at the whole picture too.
If you go down in comparing Macau's saunas (they have their bads too) , to Annie's then compare price too. I agree a low price still should provide a decent service, but unless unforeseen situations, that is what you get there. And you can always report to the management, either on ISG or on a more fair way by email. This including your remark about the pushy mama-San, if she was pushy by your rating. Same as with the girls, some chemistry is always required.
I know, some will say "I pay my f* money and I don't want mind games". Well said, as long as one treats all people as human beings, even WG's or mama-san's
Not comparing the saunas, Darling 1 and 2 are fishbowls in Macau, not the extravagant saunas.
However, the general attitude of the mamasan in Annie's was shite. I've just been in Dr BJ's salon and the difference was substantial. Warm welcome, no rushing, a few giggles here and there as me and a mate chose and it's less than half the price. Sure it's not a soapy soapy, but the attitude was spot on. They are providing a service, which ever way you look at it.
I am afraid that comparing anything with the top Macau saunas, that will loose. It is simply, as you out it, light years ahead, and one should not expect something comparable, to be honest.
Don't know what your expectations were on Annie's, but they deliver an honest soap massage service, with all what you can have in term of services. Might not have a all stunners line up, and we all know sometime a miss can happen. Might give a bitter taste, but one should look at the whole picture too.
If you go down in comparing Macau's saunas (they have their bads too) , to Annie's then compare price too. I agree a low price still should provide a decent service, but unless unforeseen situations, that is what you get there. And you can always report to the management, either on ISG or on a more fair way by email. This including your remark about the pushy mama-San, if she was pushy by your rating. Same as with the girls, some chemistry is always required.
I know, some will say "I pay my f* money and I don't want mind games". Well said, as long as one treats all people as human beings, even WG's or mama-san's
As I said in the main thread. Thought it was all way too cold and pushy by the woman in charge, when we were looking for a bit. Talent was average at best, one pretty one for sure, but got snapped up ahead of us.
If I compared this with Darling 1 of Macau, then quite simply they are light years apart and not rushed at all and the girls were total stunners too.
Seems like what's been wrote in this thread about Annies of late, is fairly accurate. That was my first visit and probably my last, only across the road in Majestic Grande too, such a shame.Being back in Bangkok I was in Annie's 2 days ago and my experience was much better than yours was. Surely you didn't go there without looking at their web site first? You can book a girl ahead of your visit. Saying there was only one decent one isn't accurate and anyway I doubt they would apologize for being popular ie they must have been busy. A restaurant with only 2 spare tables is a good sign of a decent place to eat more than 1 with 10 spare tables, isn't it?
Could you tell me where in Bangkok I can find Darling 1 "of Macau"? If the gals there are so much better looking I want to visit and I don't mean darling's in Soi 8 either. This is like comparing fish and potato's. I've read through this thread and the good reports are way more than the bad 1's. Plus I think judging a place on 1 visit is a bit strange, why not book a girl and try again? I mainly do oilies but have recently been trying soapys and really enjoy them.
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Scorchin1470
03-02-13, 13:59
However, the general attitude of the mamasan in Annie's was shite. I've just been in Dr BJ's salon and the difference was substantial. Warm welcome, no rushing,It all depends! Last November I had a great time discussing my selections at Annie's and at Dr BJ's I felt all that was of interest was my money. Funny as over the years I have found my approach to Thais has worked well. Friendly but respectful with an attitude that I am a guest in their country.
Funny. But that works with Thai girls!
Not comparing the saunas, Darling 1 and 2 are fishbowls in Macau, not the extravagant saunas.
However, the general attitude of the mamasan in Annie's was shite. I've just been in Dr BJ's salon and the difference was substantial. Warm welcome, no rushing, a few giggles here and there as me and a mate chose and it's less than half the price. Sure it's not a soapy soapy, but the attitude was spot on. They are providing a service, which ever way you look at it.I am confident Aye will come up here and have a comment on this as we might accept a girl being down once but a mamasan should be in better control.
Hi Guys. Just wanted to share my Bangkok experiences with my fellow mongers. Hope it helps
1. The first trip was to the famous Annies.
http://www.anniesbangkok.com/staff.html
I went up there at about 2 PM and found about 10 girls in the fishbowl, asked for the famous # 24 but she was unavailable. So decided to come back again. Well it was not long though, was at it again at 3. 30 PM. This time there were about 10-12 girls. Chose # 20 as she looked real cute and was all smiles and man I was so happy.
#20.
Age : Early 30s.
Body: 7/10.
Face: 7/10.
Service : 10/10.
Skill : 9/10.
GFE: 10/10.
Paid up and she held my hand and took me to the room, never insisted on a drink even though I offered. Then she kindly asks me to relax and was back in a couple of minutes with all the soapy stuff and then she come and sits over my lap and starts slowly teasing me with her kisses and I start exploring her body, and a nice session of DFK for a few minutes. Unluckly I got the couples room which has a huge bed but soapy can only me done in the tub. Once the tub was filled she takes me into it and give me one hell of a ride. She was all over me sliding her smooth body with a combination of BBBJ, HJ and BJ. Man it was hevenly all this with a cute smile over her face and there I shoot my load with a combination of HJ and BBBJ. Then she cleans me up properly and then drys me from head to toe and asks me to lie on the bed. She joins me and cuddles for a while and starts the massage and as soon as she is done with my back and asks me to turn around my LB is wide awake again and then I take control exploring her body inch by inch planting a kiss where even I can and VOW a nice ass tooo. And then she comes over me to ride (with a DOM on) , then doggy and finnaly I shoot my load again in miss position. Then we cuddle for a while she offers me to go again as she realized my LB was not sleeping yet but I said no I am satisfied and we just lie there on the bed for a few more minutes and then she showers me again drys me again and helps me with my clothes. A TOTAL perfect GFE experience. Just the best way that I could start my trip.
Dammage : 2500 bath + 1000 tip just could not resist. The best GFE I ever HAD. Beleive me I have had my share of women from all over the world. Will keep posting my other reports too soon. Pics are not allowed at Annies but she is listed in the website and she looks better in person than in the pics.
Chose # 20 as she looked real cute and was all smiles and man I was so happy.
#20.
Age : Early 30s.
Body: 7/10.
Face: 7/10.
Service : 10/10.
Skill : 9/10.
GFE: 10/10.
Man it was heavenly all this with a cute smile over her face and there I shoot my load with a combination of HJ and BBBJ.
VOW a nice ass tooo. And then she comes over me to ride (with a DOM on) , then doggy and finnaly I shoot my load again in miss position.
Then we cuddle for a while she offers me to go again as she realized my LB was not sleeping yet
She looks better in person than in the pics.Thanks for the report about lady #20 at Annie's Massage. I've been wondering about her for some time, because she doesn't smile much in her pictures at the Annie's Massage website, which makes her look a little unapproachable for a horny guy like me. But at the same time, she has a very high rating of 8. 5 from her customers. And you can see a little from her middle picture at the website that this lass has a nice ass.
Perhaps her pictures at the website show how she feels towards her photographer, whom she doesn't expect to fuck, rather than towards her massage customers in general. In her first two pictures, her pose is very confident, so confident that she looks a little unapproachable. And in her third picture, she looks very defensive, with her arms crossed across her chest, as if to protect her tits from a guy who might want to grope her there. She probably would've looked better in her pictures, if one of her favorite customers was standing behind that camera. Because her feelings and her pose towards him would've been full of invitation for another penetration.
But I can see why this lady's massage customers rave about her and give her such high ratings. She has a pretty face and a nice-looking body. And from your report above, I can see that this pretty lady is so friendly and so nice with her horny guys that she doesn't put any limit on how many times they can cum with her. She is out to please her guys completely and keeps inviting them back for another ride with her, until they can't get it up with her anymore.
With a pretty lady like this you can just relax and fuck in peace, without any concern or fear of cumming prematurely. Because when you know that the pretty lady doesn't count your cumshots or put any limits on them, then this in itself is sexually arousing for a horny guy. It's like being in an all-you-can-eat restaurant for a flat price. You usually end up eating some extra food, until you are more than satisfied. And it's the same with this pretty lady, who invites her guys to fuck as much as they want with her.
Such an unlimited invitation from a pretty lady is in itself sexually arousing for a horny guy to have. Her guys probably end up performing more and better with her than they perform with other ladies. Which is why they like her so much. She brings out the real stud in you.
GoldDigger
03-08-13, 02:02
Anybody knows if 22 is still working there? I'Ve been with her a couple of times end of last year. Despite ambiguous comments had GFE with her. Couldn't see her for the last 2 month.
ShivaInForty
03-08-13, 08:19
I will be in Bangkok in April and was suggested that there are indeed Big Thais and maybe I could fine them in Annies. Is this a fact and has anybody seen or utilized such a lady. I am not very particular about young girls but also Okay with some older ones. Any suggestion will surely help.
Thanks
Hi,
I read few reports about Annies and it seems like most of their girls are around 30s. Do they ever have cute 18-25 year olds that are slim and friendly?
Thanks for the insight!
A
Hi,
I read few reports about annies and it seems like most of their girls are around 30s. Do they ever have cute 18-25 year olds that are slim and friendly?
Thanks for the insight!
AYou guys asking questions about the girls, Annie's does have a website.
But if you go to Nana car park at midnight there are young and slim girls for 1000 b who will fuck you silly.
Chill Bill
03-08-13, 21:13
If you take the girls out, they will stay with you all night? You can have all the sex you want with them for the 5000 bat? Also, do any of these girls do anal?
Where is Nana car park?
You guys asking questions about the girls, Annie's does have a website.
But if you go to Nana car park at midnight there are young and slim girls for 1000 be who will fuck you silly.
Hotman 666
03-08-13, 22:44
Where is Nana car park?Try Googling Nana Hotel. The car park is at the front.
Not so difficult now was it?
Hotman
GoldDigger
03-09-13, 02:15
If you take the girls out, they will stay with you all night? You can have all the sex you want with them for the 5000 bat? Also, do any of these girls do anal?
Where is Nana car park?You can stay with the girl all night and do whatever you agree with her. Just try to be fair and let her sleep enough because they have a pretty hard job at Annies an normally they are exhausted after a buisy day and they have to work again on the next day. You should also consider to tip her because the girls stay only with 40% of the money. Treat them good and nomally they will serve you well.
Mojo Bandit
03-09-13, 10:13
Hi,
I read few reports about annies and it seems like most of their girls are around 30s. Do they ever have cute 18-25 year olds that are slim and friendly?
Thanks for the insight!
AWhen I was at Annies in 2011 she had two groups of girls at two price levels, none of the girls I saw looked over 25 and the high priced level girls were gorgeous
Scorchin1470
03-09-13, 11:45
...none of the girls I saw looked over 25 and the high priced level girls were gorgeousIn your dreams I am afraid. Annie's has always had girls well over 25plus.
Gen X Baer
03-09-13, 12:22
First time visiting Annie's and the directions provided on forum is great.
Easiest is just head to Nana Plaza and keep walking down the road. Eventually you'll see a sign (if Nana Plaza is on your left) on the right hand side of the street,"Annie's DO & DO."
Take that alleyway and keep walking to the far end of the street until you see the famous sign and head up stairs.
It was pretty funny as the moment I walked in, mamasan basically pushed me towards the fishbowl and said,"girl love you long time, shower, bath, bubbly, suck suck, and sex. All 2, 500BHT" without taking a moment to breathe. I just chuckled and told her I was looking for #24. She wasn't there (most of the girls on the website or that are worth arrive past 17:00PM it seems). I then mentioned I was looking for a GFE girl. She spoke into the mirophone and roughly said,"girl who can suck dick for long time and kiss alot!" Then those who did stood up and those who didn't just stayed still. I asked her for PSE then. She had no idea what that meant. Then I asked if anyone was A+ level, she informed me no girl did it at Annie's (really?)
I didn't want to wait so I asked the girls to line up again. #35 appealed. A bit short. Face is decent (not pretty, nor beautiful, more of cute). Body. She is small in height about 5'4 perhaps, and has a caring attitude. Went ahead and bought her a drink as I wanted to set the social mood and help ease the new meeting. She got a beer, I got a Cola and we both walked into RM#10. All the basics inside.
We talked and giggled for a while. Apparently the mamasan and girls share news as she knew I was waiting on #24 in the start. She told me that #24 was really tall and cute, so alot of gentleman push to see her and is highly favored. So gentleman, if you're into looks then #24 is for you, I suppose.
#35 is a playful one. Though her english is not perfect, she really tried to communicate and make the session fun and inspiring. I told her I wanted to have a relaxing yet fun time, and she took charge of making that happen.
Soapy was first and she did the basics. She did spend a little extra time rubbing down on my shoulder and back as I had told her that I wanted to ease some tension. It was nice to see she paid attention to what I was saying. Then flipped me around and BBBJ. Have to admit, she was a trooper. I snuck a finger into her as well as shocker in the rear. She took it like a champ and kept at it whilst moaning everytime I went in deeper (probably from the pain. But she did a good job pulling it off like it was pleasuring her). Popped one there.
Into the bathtub and she gave me a relaxing rub down. Once showered off, we moved onto the bed and she provided a oily massage paying attention to all muscle areas. Then BBBJ again to get LB hard and on came the condom. Cowboy, spoon, missionary, doggy, flat doggy, and COB.
Though she wasn't exactly a wild crazy experience, #35 provided exactly what I needed and wanted. Thus a 9 for her on that.
Drinks: 250BHT (had three drinks). Don't know how that adds up
Session: 2, 500BHT.
Total Damage: 2, 750BHT.
Service Level of #35:9.
Face: 7 (cute face. Not sexy, pretty, or beautiful).
Body Type: small breasts, nice round butt, and thin body.
Soapy was first and she did the basics. She did spend a little extra time rubbing down on my shoulder and back as I had told her that I wanted to ease some tension. It was nice to see she paid attention to what I was saying. Then flipped me around and BBBJ. Have to admit, she was a trooper. I snuck a finger into her as well as shocker in the rear. She took it like a champ and kept at it whilst moaning everytime I went in deeper (probably from the pain. But she did a good job pulling it off like it was pleasuring her). Popped one there.
Into the bathtub and she gave me a relaxing rub down. Once showered off, we moved onto the bed and she provided a oily massage paying attention to all muscle areas. Then BBBJ again to get LB hard and on came the condom. Cowboy, spoon, missionary, doggy, flat doggy, and COB.
Though she wasn't exactly a wild crazy experience, #35 provided exactly what I needed and wanted. Thus a 9 for her on that.
Drinks: 250BHT (had three drinks). Don't know how that adds up
Session: 2, 500BHT.
Total Damage: 2, 750BHT.
Service Level of #35:9.
Face: 7 (cute face. Not sexy, pretty, or beautiful).
Body Type: small breasts, nice round butt, and thin body.I find it hard to believe that they asked you to pay only 500 B for the massage and full service. Because Annie's Massage website says their price is 2500 B for one lady, and this price isn't negotiable.
http://www.anniesbangkok.com/prices.html
Gen X Baer
03-09-13, 15:20
I find it hard to believe that they asked you to pay only 500 B for the massage and full service. Because Annie's Massage website says their price is 2500 B for one lady, and this price isn't negotiable.
http://www.anniesbangkok.com/prices.htmlI find it hard to believe that you read 500BHT when I wrote down 2, 500BHT for full service.
Lots of grumpy posters lately. I mean see'mon. Have some common sense!
Furthermore, if there were ever a day that I'd get such a lucky deal, you think I would post it to public? Save it for friends, doy!
I find it hard to believe that they asked you to pay only 500 B for the massage and full service. Because Annie's Massage website says their price is 2500 B for one lady, and this price isn't negotiable.Don't you think you didn't read the report well? U have been dropped a number, I. E "2" before "500"
Thanks for the report about lady #20 at Annie's Massage. I've been wondering about her for some time, because she doesn't smile much in her pictures at the Annie's Massage website, which makes her look a little unapproachable for a horny guy like me. But at the same time, she has a very high rating of 8. 5 from her customers. And you can see a little from her middle picture at the website that this lass has a nice ass.
Perhaps her pictures at the website show how she feels towards her photographer, whom she doesn't expect to fuck, rather than towards her massage customers in general. In her first two pictures, her pose is very confident, so confident that she looks a little unapproachable. And in her third picture, she looks very defensive, with her arms crossed across her chest, as if to protect her tits from a guy who might want to grope her there. She probably would've looked better in her pictures, if one of her favorite customers was standing behind that camera. Because her feelings and her pose towards him would've been full of invitation for another penetration.
But I can see why this lady's massage customers rave about her and give her such high ratings. She has a pretty face and a nice-looking body. And from your report above, I can see that this pretty lady is so friendly and so nice with her horny guys that she doesn't put any limit on how many times they can cum with her. She is out to please her guys completely and keeps inviting them back for another ride with her, until they can't get it up with her anymore.
With a pretty lady like this you can just relax and fuck in peace, without any concern or fear of cumming prematurely. Because when you know that the pretty lady doesn't count your cumshots or put any limits on them, then this in itself is sexually arousing for a horny guy. It's like being in an all-you-can-eat restaurant for a flat price. You usually end up eating some extra food, until you are more than satisfied. And it's the same with this pretty lady, who invites her guys to fuck as much as they want with her.
Such an unlimited invitation from a pretty lady is in itself sexually arousing for a horny guy to have. Her guys probably end up performing more and better with her than they perform with other ladies. Which is why they like her so much. She brings out the real stud in you.Well said, The pictures posted on the website do not do justice to her. She's way cuter in person. I had the pleasure of the company of #24 too a couple of days later, when you compare the bodies yeah # 24 is cuter and sexier but service wise I would rate # 20 better than # 24. # 24 is very very good but # 20 gives you that little bit EXTRA in terms of GFE. The way she kisses you passionately blows you away.
You can stay with the girl all night and do whatever you agree with her. Just try to be fair and let her sleep enough because they have a pretty hard job at Annies an normally they are exhausted after a buisy day and they have to work again on the next day. You should also consider to tip her because the girls stay only with 40% of the money. Treat them good and nomally they will serve you well.Well said indeed GD. Treat a girl nice and some are smart enough to reward you for it in terms of their attitude. They can be very eager to spend as much time as possible with their best customers and look forward to a good time.
Don't you think you didn't read the report well? U have been dropped a number, I. E "2" before "500"People don't normally write: massage session 2, 500BHT. Because when you put a space after a number, then you end up with two numbers and not one.
To me it looked like massage session #2 for 500BHT. But now that I've looked at it again, I can see how it can be 2500 BHT.
Perhaps there is something else I also misunderstood in your report.
Cowboy, spoon, missionary, doggy, flat doggy, and COB.
I'm not quite sure what does your 'Cowboy' mean as a sex position. People usually say 'Cowgirl', when the woman mounts a guy's cock with her pussy, and the guy then wildly bucks her pussy with his cock from below like a young bull. The only way it can be cowboy with a woman is if she lies on her back and you somehow manage to mount her pussy in the sitting position, with her body in between your legs. It might be possible to do, but it would be a very unusual position for a guy. Because usually it's the woman who spreads her legs during the sex and not the guy.
The word 'cowboy' is an American expression that refers to the days when guys used to ride horses to take care of their cattle in the fields. Sometimes they had to jump on a young bull from their horse and wrestle it down to the ground for branding this bull with a hot iron. And of course, this bull would buck its rider wildly, sometimes throwing him off and stomping on him for good measure. Some rare women used to mount and wrestle with young bulls this way too, and they were called cowgirls.
Scorchin1470
03-10-13, 11:34
People don't normally write: massage session 2, 500BHT. Because when you put a space after a number, then you end up with two numbers and not one.
To me it looked like massage session #2 for 500BHT. But now that I've looked at it again, I can see how it can be 2500 BHT.
I'm not quite sure what does your 'Cowboy' mean as a sex position. .Why not just admit you mis-read the original post?
Scorchin1470
03-10-13, 11:38
Cowboy Sex Position.
The Cowboy is not a naturally occurring position, as the receiver has their legs closed while the giver sits astride their thighs. To get into the position, the receiver simply lies down on their
Back while their partner sits atop of them. Although inserting can be a little difficult at first for the giver, the tightness of the opening can be rewarding for shallow penetration.
Alternatively cowboy can be used as an alternative to cowgirl where the girl is referred to as the cowboy.
#35 is a playful one. Though her english is not perfect, she really tried to communicate and make the session fun and inspiring. I told her I wanted to have a relaxing yet fun time, and she took charge of making that happen.
Soapy was first and she did the basics. She did spend a little extra time rubbing down on my shoulder and back as I had told her that I wanted to ease some tension. It was nice to see she paid attention to what I was saying. Then flipped me around and BBBJ. Have to admit, she was a trooper. I snuck a finger into her as well as shocker in the rear. She took it like a champ and kept at it whilst moaning everytime I went in deeper (probably from the pain. But she did a good job pulling it off like it was pleasuring her). Popped one there.
Into the bathtub and she gave me a relaxing rub down. Once showered off, we moved onto the bed and she provided a oily massage paying attention to all muscle areas. Then BBBJ again to get LB hard and on came the condom. Cowboy, spoon, missionary, doggy, flat doggy, and COB.
Though she wasn't exactly a wild crazy experience, #35 provided exactly what I needed and wanted. Thus a 9 for her on that.
Body Type: small breasts, nice round butt, and thin body.It's great to know that Lady #35 at Annie's Massage let you finger her asshole while she was sucking your cock, and she didn't complain about it even though you neglected to put any lube on your fingers.
I wasn't interested in her before, but now I am. A lass, who lets guys finger her ass, is a notch above pussy-only ladies. She is special. Because if you put a lot of lube on your fingers, then you can make it a double-penetration for her every time, with your cock inside her pussy and your fingers up her ass.
This pretty lady sounds like a lot of fun for a horny guy who likes to play with his lady's bum, during his pussy-sex with her. Thanks for your report about her.
You guys asking questions about the girls, Annie's does have a website.
But if you go to Nana car park at midnight there are young and slim girls for 1000 be who will fuck you silly.Every night, from 5pm, the nana parking is a shopping center, untill 2am.
I wonder why you go further than this parking lot ha ha.
.To me it looked like massage session #2 for 500BHT. But now that I've looked at it again, I can see how it can be 2500 BHT.I have read the same: session#2at500bht (pretty cheap! LOL)
OTE=Scorchin1470; 1396346]Cowboy Sex Position.
QUOTE]Haha. Who names this shit?
I just fuck them in every position my 58 year old body will let me.
Paul Kausch
03-10-13, 23:43
OTE=Scorchin1470; 1396346]Cowboy Sex Position.
[QUOTE]Haha. Who names this shit?
I just fuck them in every position my 58 year old body will let me.Every January the AVN Adult Entertainment Expo (AEE) is held in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA. During the first two "Trade Only" days educational symposia and official industry business are conducted; one symposium is devoted to industry jargon and terminology. In addition to names for well known and widely practiced sexual positions such as missionary, doggy, spoon, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and cowboy, other less well-known terms such the angry dragon, the bronco, the Cleveland steamer, and dirty Sanchez have been officially sanctioned and added to the lexicon by this perspicacious body. Unfortunately the Modern Language Association of America arrogantly refuses to acknowledge the colorful contributions the AEE makes to the English language.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1396565]OTE=Scorchin1470; 1396346]Cowboy Sex Position.
Every January the AVN Adult Entertainment Expo (AEE) is held in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA. During the first two "Trade Only" days educational symposia and official industry business are conducted; one symposium is devoted to industry jargon and terminology. In addition to names for well known and widely practiced sexual positions such as missionary, doggy, spoon, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and cowboy, other less well-known terms such the angry dragon, the bronco, the Cleveland steamer, and dirty Sanchez have been officially sanctioned and added to the lexicon by this perspicacious body. Unfortunately the Modern Language Association of America arrogantly refuses to acknowledge the colorful contributions the AEE makes to the English language.I'm wondering what would be their definition of the 'Cowboy' sex position?
It could mean a guy mounting a woman's strap-on dildo with his ass, the same way a woman mounts a guy's cock with her pussy in the cowgirl position. And I suspect that this word, cowboy, could also have some homosexual meaning, where one guy mounts on top of another guy, the same way a woman mounts a guy in the cowgirl position.
SailSingapore
03-11-13, 19:29
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1396588]I'm wondering what would be their definition of the 'Cowboy' sex position?
It could mean a guy mounting a woman's strap-on dildo with his ass, the same way a woman mounts a guy's cock with her pussy in the cowgirl position. And I suspect that this word, cowboy, could also have some homosexual meaning, where one guy mounts on top of another guy, the same way a woman mounts a guy in the cowgirl position.Hahaha! COWBOY SEX POSITION : here you go Sir :
http://www.sexinfo101.com/cowboy.shtml
Cowboy Sex Position.
The Cowboy is not a naturally occurring position, as the receiver has their legs closed while the giver sits astride their thighs. To get into the position, the receiver simply lies down on their back while their partner sits atop of them. Although inserting can be a little difficult at first for the giver, the tightness of the opening can be rewarding for shallow penetration.
Scorchin1470
03-11-13, 19:35
[QUOTE=Dan7373; 1396912]Hahaha! COWBOY SEX POSITION : here you go Sir :
http://www.sexinfo101.com/cowboy.shtml
Cowboy Sex Position.
The Cowboy is not a naturally occurring position, as the receiver has their legs closed while the giver sits astride their thighs. To get into the position, the receiver simply lies down on their back while their partner sits atop of them. Although inserting can be a little difficult at first for the giver, the tightness of the opening can be rewarding for shallow penetration.I am flattered.
ChelseaBill
03-24-13, 18:19
Every night, from 5pm, the nana parking is a shopping center, untill 2am.
I wonder why you go further than this parking lot ha ha.FYI I was enjoying my visit home last week and on Thursday 21 March, the police turned up at about 21:45hrs and cleared away the freelancers from the Nana Hotel parking lot entrance and wall. I have never seen such action since living in Soi 4 since 2002. WTF is going on? Hopefully, this police action was a one off.
Crazy4Thai
03-25-13, 02:54
FYI I was enjoying my visit home last week and on Thursday 21 March, the police turned up at about 21:45hrs and cleared away the freelancers from the Nana Hotel parking lot entrance and wall. I have never seen such action since living in Soi 4 since 2002. WTF is going on? Hopefully, this police action was a one off.I'm just guessing. If someone knows for sure please chime in. I guess the bar owners have complained, and probably paid, to have the competition dispersed. Perhaps following the example set in Pattaya with Beach Road FLs. It perhaps could be a trend in the low season with fewer punters around.
FYI I was enjoying my visit home last week and on Thursday 21 March, the police turned up at about 21:45hrs and cleared away the freelancers from the Nana Hotel parking lot entrance and wall. I have never seen such action since living in Soi 4 since 2002. WTF is going on? Hopefully, this police action was a one off.?
OK, I don't get it. You live on Soi 4 and this happened last Thursday and you ask if it was a one off?
So what has happened the past 3 nights?
Maybe you can enlighten us.
Thanks
FYI I was enjoying my visit home last week and on Thursday 21 March, the police turned up at about 21:45hrs and cleared away the freelancers from the Nana Hotel parking lot entrance and wall. I have never seen such action since living in Soi 4 since 2002. WTF is going on? Hopefully, this police action was a one off.We'll probably see this from time to time. About two months ago the coppers descended on the public area outside the Grace Hotel and arrested some Uzbeki chicas. I think its more of a periodic "message" than anything else. Somebody, the coppers, the business owners, who knows (?) , are not thrilled by the freelancing spillover into the open public areas.
Go grab a seat at the bar girls.
Can the debates about Nana Plaza and cowboy position be moved to a more appropriate area as they have nothing to do with Annie's soapie.
Went to Annies two weeks ago and had a session with "Birthday". Number 17 at Annies.
Inspired by her looks on the pictures on the website and a high ranking there I did a booking. Proved to a good decision. Not only has Birthday the cutest face of all the ladies pictured on the website. Her personality is more than lovable. Could not believe, that she had started working at Annies only recently. She must have set a record in fast learning.
Provided all the standards on a high level. Paid attention to details. Personally I did not discover any of her own rules. As mentioned on Annies webpage. She knows what to do next. And does it. In a polite way. Always. Was the first lady at Annies I was with who had not to be asked for "body to body" but suggested it on her own. And excelled my expectations. Very passionate and skilled body to body followed by BJ.
One thing to consider is that she is intelligent. Might be a problem for some guys which are not used to that in the industry. Could very much imagine her being an excellent companion outside the bedroom. Unfortunately, she does not like takeouts. Ask her and she will probably tell You why. I did not.
Bottom line: I learned to trust the information provided on Annies webpage. Photos and description alike. Birthday convinced with great looks, personality and excellent service.
White Whale
03-30-13, 05:17
I am not reviewing webpage staff selection. I just go in and pick from the fish bowl. This time it was number 9. Afterwards I looked her description annd I have to disagree about English skills. Also she has gained some weight on belly area but not bad. Body to body in bath tub was very enjoyable. The massage on bed was lousy. She tend to please but did not make an initiative so you have to encourage to get on same page. BBBJ was ok.
White Whale
03-31-13, 11:49
Now I had to check description afterwards and it is not making justice to herat all. Nice slender body with small matching titties. She liked DATY a lot and her tiny pussy was pulsating strongly as she came. Almost cut blood circulation from my finger. After she came we were lieing side by side and she was tinkering with my nipple making me horny again. What made her special she was extremely GFE chatty little thing. Even more than some of my real GFs. I was not making it too easy on her with my face from Dorian Gray and body. Well, you can read my nick.
I think you can predict somewhat how a lady will behave with you in the massage room simply by looking at her pictures at Annie's Massage website. Because they show the lady's personality somewhat.
Lady #17 looks very assertive and self-assured in her pictures at the website. And it's no surprise that she takes the initiative with her guys. She knows best how to put your cock to the test, and she won't wait for you to penetrate. She'll spread her legs and invite you inside, when she feels that the time is right for a good ride.
But lady #9 only tries to look sexy and pretty in her pictures at the website. You get no sense at all that she might come at you for the ball. She is the kind of chick who expects you to come at her with your dick, probably because she is so good-looking that she is used to having horny guys go after her, while she only poses and tries to look good.
And lady #75 also tries to pose and look good. But you can see in her demeanor that she is a little meaner than lady #9. She leans forward towards you, as if she is about to come at you. And her bra she holds as if she is about to rip it off, rather than just to show you her tits, the way lady #9 poses.
Lady #75 tries to be like lady #9, mild and feminine, but her true personality is more like that of lady #17. She'll come at you and bang your brains out, when she loses her inhibitions and starts feeling comfortable with you.
But whether you like or dislike your experience with any of these ladies depends not only on the ladies but also on you. Because your interaction depends on how well your personality matches that of the lady. If you are shy and unassertive, and you go for lady #9, then your experience with her probably won't be that good. Because she isn't the one to take the initiative and neither are you. You can end up wasting your time without doing much.
But if you are the kind of guy who has no qualms about coming at the chick with your dick as soon as she takes off her panties with you, then your experience with lady #9 would probably be better than either with lady #17 or #75. Because lady #9 is the chick who will welcome your dick and let you stay on top until you pop. And she probably won't object too much, if you change your condom and go for another ride with her. She is so yielding and so feminine in her personality that she needs an assertive guy to make her tits fly.
Quick questions for the newbie:
1. Who is this Aey that is writing the reviews for the masseuses? Are her reviews accurate, or does she plug certain people?
2. Anyone with experience with #23? She is a older, but the highest rated masseuse by Aey on the website, at 9. 0?
The other two questions are not related to Annie's specifically, but as long as I have your ear.
3. Where is the best place to exchange currency in the Sumkh area? Is there anywhere that I can get better than the 29 / dollar that the banks are offering?
4. Was thinking of trying a Nuru massage. Where is the best place to try it out? One previous poster recommended Colonze 2, but that seems kind of out of the way. How much can I expect these to cost?
Thanks!
Crazy4Thai
04-05-13, 08:20
Quick questions for the newbie:
2. Anyone with experience with #23? She is a older, but the highest rated masseuse by Aey on the website, at 9. 0?
Thanks!I contacted Aey thru PM several months ago about #23. Aey continued to recommend her so I booked. No regrets, I will repeat next opportunity. She is a sexy full grown woman who really knows what she's doing and seems to enjoy it. I wrote a review last Aug / Sept thereabouts.
I contacted Aey thru PM several months ago about #23. Aey continued to recommend her so I booked. No regrets, I will repeat next opportunity. She is a sexy full grown woman who really knows what she's doing and seems to enjoy it. I wrote a review last Aug / Sept thereabouts.She titillated my fantasy indeed as from the picture she seems the ideal MILF or girl next door, opening the home door when she just woke up!
Sorry for asking a naive questions, but what IS 'ANNIES' and 'Tullips' in the first place? Private massage? For which general. Prize and service, if yes?
Quick questions for the newbie:
1. Who is this Aey that is writing the reviews for the masseuses? Are her reviews accurate, or does she plug certain people?
2. Anyone with experience with #23? She is a older, but the highest rated masseuse by Aey on the website, at 9. 0?
The other two questions are not related to Annie's specifically, but as long as I have your ear.
3. Where is the best place to exchange currency in the Sumkh area? Is there anywhere that I can get better than the 29 / dollar that the banks are offering?
4. Was thinking of trying a Nuru massage. Where is the best place to try it out? One previous poster recommended Colonze 2, but that seems kind of out of the way. How much can I expect these to cost?
Thanks!Being my business partner I feel qualified to comment on this. Aey owns Annie's and has been in this industry for over 20 years so she knows it inside out. She is very diligent and honest in her assessment and rating of the ladies, for example number 19 is rated at 2/10. Not many business owners would be so brutally honest. I know this lady does do very well as she has her own loyal band of followers who specifically pick her every time they visit Annie's. Aey doesn't plug any particular ladies.
To the best of my knowledge there is very little difference in the exchange rates from different places, however it is a long time since I changed currency so please someone correct me if I am wrong. There are a few places who can offer Nuru massage, Akane is another one. I will refrain from commenting on where the best place is but I have a Nuru massage parlour in Soi 7/1 (same as the Salon). A one hour massage is 2, 000 baht which is in the Japanese style with an air mattress but no bed, a two hour massage is in a much larger room with a double bed and en suite bathroom and costs 3, 000 baht. There are no hidden extras, the only thing you may have to pay for outside the standard cost is if you want a drink with your session.
Regards,
BJ
Dextro Sol
04-05-13, 14:12
Sorry for asking a naive questions, but what IS 'ANNIES' and 'Tullips' in the first place? Private massage? For which general. Prize and service, if yes?Take a look at Annies website: http://www.anniesbangkok.com/ And I think you will understand what kind of place it is.
Tulip is a massage parlour, and I don't think they have a website, but take a look at this instead, its quite similar: http://cherrymassagebkk.com/
Down South Lad
04-05-13, 14:57
I have tried on several occasions to book 23 this year, but to no avail.
Each time I am told she is on holidays.
Am I unlucky each time I visit? (and she IS actually on holidays) has she given up the game?
Does anyone know?
Heatssss522
04-05-13, 17:54
I have tried on several occasions to book 23 this year, but to no avail.
Each time I am told she is on holidays.
Am I unlucky each time I visit? (and she IS actually on holidays) has she given up the game?
Does anyone know?I saw her on January28. I went to Annies with my cousin on morning 11am, He booked no 26, and I booked none, I just saw her, and one guy booked her too, she was very hot, with saggy belly, I like saggy belly, I was in a double mind whether to go with her, then made my mind, not now. Then I didn't go to Annies again even during my next trip on March 15.
I contacted Aey thru PM several months ago about #23. Aey continued to recommend her so I booked. No regrets, I will repeat next opportunity. She is a sexy full grown woman who really knows what she's doing and seems to enjoy it. I wrote a review last Aug / Sept thereabouts.My impression from Annie's Massage website is that these ratings of ladies come from customers and not from Aey. How else would Aey know if a lady is good or not good, unless she asks this lady's customers to rate their experience with her on a scale of 1 to 10?
But from your description of lady #23, I still can't tell what makes her the best of the best, when it comes to putting your cock to the test. Most ladies at Annie's Massage are sexy, full-grown women, who know what they are doing and are probably enjoying it too.
What's so special about lady #23? It can't be just her looks, because arguably, she isn't the most sexy or the most attractive woman there. There must be something special that she is doing with her guys to get such high ratings from them.
My guess is that she is probably better than other ladies at sexually arousing her guys and encouraging them to perform like real studs with her. Because it's a real thrill for any horny guy to drill his pretty lady, when she doesn't just lie back but gives him lots of positive feedback.
Down South Lad
04-07-13, 07:23
I saw her on January28. I went to Annies with my cousin on morning 11am, He booked no 26, and I booked none, I just saw her, and one guy booked her too, she was very hot, with saggy belly, I like saggy belly, I was in a double mind whether to go with her, then made my mind, not now. Then I didn't go to Annies again even during my next trip on March 15.Thanks for the info Heatssss522, I must have missed her (23) by 1 day! I called January 27. Spoke to a lady who a wetted phone by name of kob or kop. She mentioned lady on holiday. She failed to tell me though that she will be working tomorrow.
Ah well, will put it down to me not asking enough questions.
Next time.
My impression from Annie's Massage website is that these ratings of ladies come from customers and not from Aey. How else would Aey know if a lady is good or not good, unless she asks this lady's customers to rate their experience with her on a scale of 1 to 10?
But from your description of lady #23, I still can't tell what makes her the best of the best, when it comes to putting your cock to the test. Most ladies at Annie's Massage are sexy, full-grown women, who know what they are doing and are probably enjoying it too.
What's so special about lady #23? It can't be just her looks, because arguably, she isn't the most sexy or the most attractive woman there. There must be something special that she is doing with her guys to get such high ratings from them.
My guess is that she is probably better than other ladies at sexually arousing her guys and encouraging them to perform like real studs with her. Because it's a real thrill for any horny guy to drill his pretty lady, when she doesn't just lie back but gives him lots of positive feedback.UH, OK. Your post is pretty much in the third person. Have you seen her and can you personally say she a good fuck, or not?
UH, OK. Your post is pretty much in the third person. Have you seen her and can you personally say she a good fuck, or not?I wouldn't be asking questions about her, if I had met her and spent some time with her personally.
I'm asking other people, who have been with lady #23, about what is it that she does better than other women? I'm guessing that she is better than other women at putting horny guys at ease, sexually speaking that is. Because a guy's performance depends a lot on this. But exactly how she does it still remains a mystery to me.
What a sad and "cheap looking" place. Really. I was astonished about the bad quality all over.
Annie's appears like a frustrated slave driver and so do the girls, let's better say middle-aged women. As posted earlier, the pictures on the homepage and walls appear really outdated to a good part and when I was there (5pm, supposedly a good time) there were plenty of girls (around 10-15) but none really nice, and most definitely over 25.
The thing which shocked me most was that the atmosphere in the house as well as in the fish bowl appeared really sad. The girls frustrated and worn out.
Okay whatever, I took the best looking one (later were told she is 27,"Lala" or so; #6) as I wanted to make the experience and as so many here write so positively about Annies.
The girls appeared nice, the first 5min. Then I already waited 10min alone in room until she came back. She washed me on a special mattress, rubbing her body on me. Was nice, but after she but her away (to not get wet) and after undressing I was not much attracted anymore. Hanging breasts, and face which now also could be a lady boy. Whatever. What already turned me off here was the obvious standard routine of a completely bored and really worn out woman. I never saw such a sad "working lady", and I saw a lot, believe me. Yet, she did not appear to be an exception at that place.
Well after having some wash session on the mattress I was put to the bathing tube. Was okay, and she made a nice hand job. The blow jobs actually were all pretty bad, I could feel her teeth. And she was going to stress my little Boy too much from time to time. The touch simply was not gentle, but very mechanic.
Well I came with her hand job. Was good, but nothing special as she did not touch me except on my dick.
Well then we went on the bed to continue with another massage (remember that they promise 2hrs for 2500- all included). We both made a 10min break small talking. The girl was nice, but she was desparate so my feeling. She asked for a "water". For THB 120-. I was lauging and said no. I myself was frustrated by then and was again disappointed by the cheap policies of that place. 120- I do not even pay for a beer in most gogo places. (Pattaya is 65-)
I wondered what was coming next. It was an okay normal massage on the back and then on the front. With again lots of monotonolus blow jobs (which again hurted more than they were nice, because she was going too far with her hands from time to time). She then desperately tried that I quickly come, shake my little Friend like crazy. I alsmost came a few times but then always something hurt. Again, everything appeared very mechanical (just as a side note, I had a normal massage in Pattaya and was asked at some point for "full service"? I said yes, got a super-hand job with oil from a middle-aged average looking woman. Did not matter. At least she had a very good touch and gave a great feeling; the damage there was THB 700-). Well I did not come a second time although she tried badly. I said at some point I have enough because I was worried that she really hurts me at some point. With permanent damage which would be a desaster for the remaining BGK days. .
I left after 90min, greatly disappointed and slightly disgusted by the place. The girls, and the business.
What a sad and "cheap looking" place. Really. I was astonished about the bad quality all over.
Annie's appears like a frustrated slave driver and so do the girls, let's better say middle-aged women. As posted earlier, the pictures on the homepage and walls appear really outdated to a good part and when I was there (5pm, supposedly a good time) there were plenty of girls (around 10-15) but none really nice, and most definitely over 25.Well mate you are entitled to your opinion as are the rest of us. I have seen the same kind of posts on different forums and it amazes me why they keep cropping up. I have visited Annie's a few times but won't say it is my fav place. You werent impressed with the pictures in the room? I haven't even noticed the pictures as I'm trying to get the girls kit off as soon as she comes in with her basket of goodies.
Thepart I find really funny is that the bird was ugly, the room was shit, the blow was one of the worsed you have ever had, you didn't even try to shag her, she made your dick hurt, you felt ripped of and disgusted when you left. But you stayed for 90 mins trying to get a handle on how bad the experience was? If it was me I would have walked out after 10 mins max and asked for my money back. I have gone into gogo bars a lot of times and didn't even bother staying for a drink as the girls on stage were not acceptable. At no point did I decide to barfine one of them, have a really shit experience then come on a forum to whine about it, so why do you?
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What a sad and "cheap looking" place. Really. I was astonished about the bad quality all over.
I left after 90min, greatly disappointed and slightly disgusted by the place. The girls, and the business.Your very negative report about Annie's Massage is so different from what most other people say about it that I find it hard to believe.
The work women do there is very much the same as the work women do in other massage parlors. I see no reason why the women at Annie's Massage would feel and look so different from the women in other massage places.
It's possible that what you say is true, but I would need confirmation from other people, before I would believe something like this.
Beauty is in eye of the beholder. Which means that the way people look to you depends a lot on how you feel. If you are really depressed for some reason, then everything and everybody would look sad to you. And this might be the reason why your report is so different from those of other people who have been at Annie's Massage.
Your very negative report about Annie's Massage is so different from what most other people say about it that I find it hard to believe.
Do you actually read and understand the reports here before you post your usual long winded replies? He is not the first or the only poster who has posted this type of report about Annie's. Go back and read and you will find several other posters essentially saying the same thing.
Traveler1234
04-11-13, 16:33
Do you actually read and understand the reports here before you post your usual long winded replies? He is not the first or the only poster who has posted this type of report about Annie's. Go back and read and you will find several other posters essentially saying the same thing.Aey is a great marketeer and a true entrepeneur. But Annie's facility, including the rooms are run-down compared to most of the soapies. Patrons don't visit for the decor but rather the service and price.
I talked today to a friend who was in BKK a couple of weeks ago and he knows I am heading there in a few days.
I introduced him to Annie's September last and he was delighted then and he went again also two weeks ago.
I agrees the location needs some refurbishing but he said his girl (maybe #39, but do not quote me) was very service oriented and nice.
It was the his 2nd visit, so he did not have the possible "newbie excitement" (it can happen if one is not use to what BKK offers in that area)
He was about to repeat but did not find the girl and he later saw her in Soi 7/1, most likely Dr. BJ (not Nuru)
I explained him why this.
When we talked about the room quality at Annie's he promptly said "oh well, then those guys should go to DrBj where everything is brand new. (I migh have created an expert monster, now!)
I am reporting this to show that a totally indipendent guy, with a neutral POV can say about Annie's (and the abouts)
Scorchin1470
04-11-13, 17:03
I agrees the location needs some refurbishing
When we talked about the room quality at Annie's he promptly said "oh well, then those guys should go to DrBj where everything is brand new. (I migh have created an expert monster, now!)
I am reporting this to show that a totally indipendent guy, with a neutral POV can say about Annie's (and the abouts) I went to Annie's first over 10 years ago having been a great fan of Darlings for many years.
There is no doubt Annie's trades first on location, location, location. Secondly it trades on a slick web site, faster and more informative than the competition. Thirdly it trades on a fixed
Albeit somewhat high fixed price. Fourthly it trades on history.
But the rooms need refurbishing, the corridors are untidy and scruffy- indeed the whole appearance from the entrance (which looks like a cheap beer bar) to the first floor which I'd dingy.
As to the girls. If you arrive when the place is empty of customers a lot of tired listless girls troop in and generally looked bored. One or two smile (their turn to be chosen?).
The selection tends to be rushed by mamasan, Aey? And then it is off.
The flip side is that I have had some of the most fantastic massages and f*cks there. Success outnumbering three to one.
Paul Kausch
04-11-13, 18:59
What a sad and "cheap looking" place. Really. I was astonished about the bad quality all over.
Annie's appears like a frustrated slave driver and so do the girls, let's better say middle-aged women. As posted earlier, the pictures on the homepage and walls appear really outdated to a good part and when I was there (5pm, supposedly a good time) there were plenty of girls (around 10-15) but none really nice, and most definitely over 25.
Your very negative report about Annie's Massage is so different from what most other people say about it that I find it hard to believe.I just assumed AliGeeLi works for another MP. Didn't he place the same post on another Bangkok thread? Hmmm
Paul Kausch
04-11-13, 19:33
Do you actually read and understand the reports here before you post your usual long winded replies? He is not the first or the only poster who has posted this type of report about Annie's. Go back and read and you will find several other posters essentially saying the same thing.
Aey is a great marketeer and a true entrepeneur. But Annie's facility, including the rooms are run-down compared to most of the soapies. Patrons don't visit for the decor but rather the service and price.
I talked today to a friend who was in BKK a couple of weeks ago and he knows I am heading there in a few days.
I introduced him to Annie's September last and he was delighted then and he went again also two weeks ago.
When we talked about the room quality at Annie's he promptly said "oh well, then those guys should go to DrBj where everything is brand new. (I migh have created an expert monster, now!)
I am reporting this to show that a totally indipendent guy, with a neutral POV can say about Annie's (and the abouts) I do RTFF, with intent, and use the posts in my own little data base on the MPs. Many of Annie's girls get good reviews by ISG members. And yes, many mongers remark that the facilities are run down; but many remark that the run down facilities are part of the appeal (an opinion I share).
Hell, guys complain that the showers at Cherry's are too small and Apple is tired of getting fucked by abusive men; that SW isn't what it used to be; the Tulip girls are now a bunch of old hags; Mango's lineup is a pale image of its former self; and EZ1 & EZ2 girls don't provide a true PSE. Gripe, gripe, gripe.
If you want luxury, get a VIP suite at Poseidon; or book a room at the Mandarin Oriental and get an MP girl on outcall.
Personally, I think the tiny showers (I'm 1. 88 meters tall) , run down facilities and hunt for a great girl at an MP are part of the fun; just as the lights, sounds, fellow mongers and variety of naked girls shuffling on stage is what makes the go-go bars appealing.
Do you actually read and understand the reports here before you post your usual long winded replies? He is not the first or the only poster who has posted this type of report about Annie's. Go back and read and you will find several other posters essentially saying the same thing.Perhaps you are the one who hasn't read what I've said. You should read more carefully, before you reply.
I said that most people wrote positive reports about Annie's Massage. You are very unlikely to have 100% approval of any massage place and the ladies there, because some guys have issues of their own that make them criticize and disapprove of even the best things in life.
Some people in this forum have mentioned that the building for Annie's Massage isn't new and not quite in the luxurious category, and this seems to be the main complaint about Annie's Massage, which I find hard to understand. Because the place plays only a minor role in your experience with the lady. Guys don't go there for the place. They go there for the ladies.
When everything and everybody looks 'sad' to the guy who writes the report, then you've got to suspect that he is depressed. Because this is how depressed people normally see things. Being in a foreign country, where everything is different and sometimes hard to understand can make people with mental problems have even more such problems.
http://www.iamat.org/editorials.cfm
GoldDigger
04-12-13, 22:46
Let us try to objective. Annies really looks quite run down and could need some refurbishment. Also some of the ladies are really looking sad but others seem always happy and most do a good or reasonable job. Cost benefit is still ok although I posted already before that the business model is really not the one I like. The girls have to follow very strict rules and to do everything the customer want. From customer perspective this seems good but looking from the girl's side it's really not longer standard in BKK. That's the reason many girls leave to work in other places where they can have more rest days and can refuse certain things. In most places also their part of the cake is bigger and nobody cares what they are doing after work. The girls staying in Annies do it because the more beautiful can earn good money as long as they are working like crazy (some of them are earning 100k per month but you can imagine how's their days look like) or because for private reasons they cannot go to Pattaya where they earn the same which less stress. No wonder some of the ladies look sad and tired. Their work is totally controlled by the mamasan. They recommend them or not to customers and they apply fines if the girl does not stick on the rules. If a customer come in they have to run to the fishbowl regardless if they are tired or eating. Even if they are sick the lack of trust is such big that they have to come to Annies to stay there (to assure they do not do any parallel business). Imagine you life is 6 days a week from noon to midnight staying with men you not always like and having just 1 day off but you are not allowed to do what you want or to stay with whom you like. I am sure you also would look sad.
I did like Annies very much in the past and had very good experiences with fantastic ladies. I took many them out and and had great times but after some of them told me details about Annies business model and some of them went to other places my visits becoming less and less. Some friends of mine doing the same and Annies lost definitively some of the better ladies and customers. Until now the situation is not dramatic because there are still enough newbies coming to the place because it is famous and perfectly located. Nevertheless Annies and Aey should really reconsider the business model: Give the girls a bit more freedom, invest in a clean look and you will get many hotties. Places like Natharees, J one or the 3 Sabais in Pattaya are full of beautiful ladies and full with customers. Times did change and Annies should adopt.
Big Poppa II
04-13-13, 01:04
Recently I spent a few days in Bangkok, of course before I arrived I've read the posts for about three months. Based on the fact that Annie's and Tulip have their own thread I thought that they were a must to visit. For some reason I chose Annie's as the first stop, maybe because it was near NEP. I walked in the place and saw, like other distinguished members, some girls hanging out and eating outside. Upstairs I saw the fishbowl with maybe twenty girls, but did not recognized anyone from the website. I looked around and this big lady came up to me and I felt rushed to make a decision, I tried to take my time but she continued to push, I did not get a good vibe and walked out of the place. A few days later I thought, maybe I'll never be back in Bangkok I have to try Annie's. It appears to me that having its own thread makes it an institution. So there I went, I walked in and saw not as many girls maybe twelve or so. I was feeling tired because of the heat so I asked for someone with good oral skill in addition to the rest for my second pop. Only two girls stood up and I picked one, off to the room we went. You all know the routine and activities. I was not too happy with the service, something very annoying is that she was singing most of the time. If I want to hear singing I can turn the radio on in the hotel, no need to spend 2500 Bath.
In any case, I don't think I'll repeat. Perhaps the reason is because I've been to Body in Shanghai and my expectations were higher for Annie's. I do think, however, that everyone should try it at least once, maybe more. I might try again if I ever return to Bangkok, not sure at now. As of today, I just want to return to Bangkok to go back to Tulip.
Next Som Haven vs. Dr. BJ.
Cheers, BP
Traveler1234
04-13-13, 01:45
If you want luxury, get a VIP suite at Poseidon; or book a room at the Mandarin Oriental and get an MP girl on outcall.You're comparing apples to oranges. Pick any soapie MP: long beach, poseidon, nataree, cupidy, bankgok cozy, entertainment plaza, the old la defense, colonze, I could go on forever with this list but you get the point. Take their regular massage room and anyone of these establishments' rooms are nicer than annies.
Like you said, if that annies atmosphere is a turn-on, fine but don't say it's a 'negative' report when someone reports the truth. And I clearly did say earlier that guys don't patronize annies for the facilities but rather for their price/service.
This place is a an institution. But, they need to get some younger girls in there. Some different options. Maybe a few petite girls.
Why can't Aey recruit some?
Go to the Soi 33 places.
Much younger girls, great service, less cost.
I like an older fuck from time to time, but that is all there is here now.
I politely walked out on my last visit.
I think it is a shame really and sad.
Also, I think DR. BJ Nuru is a better option. I banged a hot 23 year old there for 2k. Nuru slide massage. Same same as Annie's service with a much cuter girl at less price.
Paul Kausch
04-13-13, 02:06
Recently I spent a few days in Bangkok, of course before I arrived I've read the posts for about three months.
I chose Annie's as the first stop, maybe because it was near NEP.
I was not too happy with the service,
Cheers, BP
This place is a an institution. But, they need to get some younger girls in there.ISG members report walking in a finding girls featured on the website; and of course you can make an appointment with a specific girl. If I was there for a short time I'd sure book in advance.
Your very negative report about Annie's Massage is so different from what most other people say about it that I find it hard to believe.
Beauty is in eye of the beholder. Which means that the way people look to you depends a lot on how you feel.Perhaps but in this case I think that beauty is in the eye of the "beerholder" as you will need a few before entering. It's a dump and the women are only a small cut above BG7.
This place is a an institution. But, they need to get some younger girls in there. Some different options. Maybe a few petite girls.
Why can't Aey recruit some?
Go to the Soi 33 places.
Much younger girls, great service, less cost.
I like an older fuck from time to time, but that is all there is here now.
I politely walked out on my last visit.
I think it is a shame really and sad.
Also, I think DR. BJ Nuru is a better option. I banged a hot 23 year old there for 2k. Nuru slide massage. Same same as Annie's service with a much cuter girl at less price.Do you remember the name or number of your Dr BJ Nuru Slide Girl? What did you rate her performance out of 10?
The selection tends to be rushed by mamasan, Aey? And then it is off.Aey is not mamasan these days. She is too busy. Its usually Gop as mamasan.
Wolvenvacht
04-13-13, 07:47
This place is a an institution. But, they need to get some younger girls in there. Some different options. Maybe a few petite girls.Last year (at Songkran) I wash at Annies and they had a nice selection of young and petite girls, some fresh from the fields. The one I chose was new there as the Mamasan told me and she asked me to be gentle and patient with her as her English was not good (more like not-existing). Nevertheless I had a good time.
Maybe the young and petite are pretty busy and you have to be lucky to catch them.
OsakaGin11
04-13-13, 11:01
Sorry about the slow reply but I like to report on a session I had with Aor when I was in BKK in late February.
After a few emails with Aey inquiring about the Aor's availability as, I was initially told told that she was busy with a client the night I was going to be in BKK. However I took the chance of turning up at Annies to see who else was availalbe for a booking and low and behold the famous No. 24 Aor was free. So I reserved her for 2 hours (I think) at the cost of 2, 500 Bht.
I found Aor to be a beautiful, sexy, friendly, chatty and enthusiastic companion and the soapy massage with her was great. We eventually moved on to the bed, after a soak in the tub, and her BBBJ was very good as she was really into it and it lasted for at least 20 minutes with me finishing with a CIM. She seemed to respond sensitively to some digitally massaging of her clit and from my part I thought her responses were very genuine.
After a rest and a short body massage, we got serious for Road. 2 and after another short BBBJ, I donned a condom and proceeded to mount her in mish fashion. However this was the only real down side of my booking with Aor, as I found that the rubber beds in Annies were far too slippery to get any real grip and as I am not that tall and Aor is, I couldn't get any real traction. So we ended up not completing the deal as I kept slipping off the bed!
I will definitely book Aor again when I visit BKK next time, but I think I will pay the extra and invite her to stay with me overnight in a hotel, as I will have at least have a decent bed to sleep on.
I also agree, with the comments of some previous punters, that Annies' rooms and facilities could do with an update as they are starting to look a little worse for wear.
OsakaGin11
04-13-13, 11:02
BTW, is Aor still working at Annies as I haven't seen her name mentioned in the reports recently?
Sorry about the slow reply but I like to report on a session I had with Aor when I was in BKK in late February.
She seemed to respond sensitively to some digitally massaging of her clit and from my part I thought her responses were very genuine.If the lady's clit feels hard and erect to your touch, then you know for sure that her sexual arousal is real and genuine, even if she doesn't make her sexual arousal obvious to you in any other way. There is no need to look at her responses and try to guess if she is sexually aroused or not, when you can know for sure simply by touching her pussy with your hand and feeling how hard or how soft it is.
It's the same as with a guy who has an erection. His erection makes it obvious that he is sexually aroused. The lady's erection isn't as visible to the naked eye, but you can feel it with your fingers and hand, when you touch her down there.
Perhaps many guys don't realize how easy it is to tell whether their lady is sexually aroused or not simply by touching and feeling her pussy, because they never touch her pussy when she isn't yet sexually aroused. You need to feel the softness of your lady's pussy with your hand, when she isn't yet sexually aroused, so that you will have something to compare to, when you start feeling the hardness of her pussy with your hand later on as a result of her sexual arousal.
If the lady's clit feels hard and erect to your touch, then you know for sure that her sexual arousal is real and genuine, even if she doesn't make her sexual arousal obvious to you in any other way. There is no need to look at her responses and try to guess if she is sexually aroused or not, when you can know for sure simply by touching her pussy with your hand and feeling how hard or how soft it is.
It's the same as with a guy who has an erection. His erection makes it obvious that he is sexually aroused. The lady's erection isn't as visible to the naked eye, but you can feel it with your fingers and hand, when you touch her down there.
Perhaps many guys don't realize how easy it is to tell whether their lady is sexually aroused or not simply by touching and feeling her pussy, because they never touch her pussy when she isn't yet sexually aroused. You need to feel the softness of your lady's pussy with your hand, when she isn't yet sexually aroused, so that you will have something to compare to, when you start feeling the hardness of her pussy with your hand later on as a result of her sexual arousal.Thanks, as ever, Dr. Love Machine. Just going to check her bean just now. You really need to get out more, you know.
Wolvenvacht
04-14-13, 08:27
Perhaps many guys don't realize how easy it is to tell whether their lady is sexually aroused or not simply by touching and feeling her pussy, because they never touch her pussy when she isn't yet sexually aroused. You need to feel the softness of your lady's pussy with your hand, when she isn't yet sexually arousedOf course being the love gods we all are, all of our ladies get sexually aroused as soon as they see us, so we never get to feel a "soft" pussy.
Get real! This is a P4P forum and all one needs and requires is a lady that is a good actress.
Of course being the love gods we all are, all of our ladies get sexually aroused as soon as they see us, so we never get to feel a "soft" pussy.
Get real! This is a P4P forum and all one needs and requires is a lady that is a good actress.You seem to have an Orwellian definition of 'real'. Being a good actress is real for you. Which kind of implies that being sincere and genuine is fake and unreal for you. It's the opposite of what people normally consider real and unreal.
The thing about sex is that it's very physical and not just psychological and emotional. You can make it real and genuine psychologically and emotionally by doing the right things physically. Because a woman can be physically aroused with good foreplay for her, just like a guy can get aroused with a good BJ from the lady.
Instead of acting and pretending, why not have the real thing by fore-playing the lady so well that she gets truly and fully sexually aroused? Sure, it takes some work. But it's pleasant kind of work. Because most heterosexual guys like touching their lady in a sexual way anyway. It's not as if you have to do something you don't like.
You seem to have an Orwellian definition of 'real'. Being a good actress is real for you. Which kind of implies that being sincere and genuine is fake and unreal for you. It's the opposite of what people normally consider real and unreal.Dan,
I would give some advice, if you are interested at all. While many of us don't like fake girls, others do. While some of us try to arouse the the girl and give her a good time, others don't give a shit. They just pay the money.
Try to avoid being the school teacher type, and trying to teach other guys how to feel up the girl's pussy or masturbate her. Realise that 99% of this audience here just isn't interested. You may have great technique, but others may not want to be trained. Many guys who cannot make a hooker come, will naturally believe that they just don't, and they just work and act. There are no subtleties in sex for many. Is just get the rocks off, imitate the porno movies, degrade the girl, and pay. Yes, I know that even hookers are capable of having a good time with the right customer, and even missing their favourite customers, because there is such huge gap in the way the customers treat them.
All I am saying is that we might think about what other readers want to read, before we write in such detail on our favourite subjects.
Concentrate on themes: Good places to go that have good girls, particular great girls, and what is their style and what made them great for you. These things make up the valuable intel for other readers. Otherwise funny real experiences can be entertaining. This is close to the definition of the purpose of the forum. I wish all would keep that in mind.
Paul Kausch
04-14-13, 17:53
There are no subtleties in sex for many. Is just get the rocks off, imitate the porno movies, degrade the girl, and pay.
All I am saying is that we might think about what other readers want to read, before we write in such detail on our favourite subjects.I strongly disagree.
"Imitate the porn movies." I have no problem with most porn flicks, but then you add, "Degrade the girl." So I have wonder if you are referring to the videos that feature rough degrading sex. If so, there is a name for guys who like to degrade and treat women roughly. They are called sadists; and unless their partner is a masochist they are aggressors victimizing the women. If that's what you're into hook up with a SW who caters to sadists and be prepared to pay the freight. Unless the girl is a hardcore addict willing to subject herself to anything for money for her next fix, these service providers charge top dollar, actually get into it and screen their clients carefully.
Now, if I am reading too much into your post, I apologize. But this is the meaning I parse.
What got me participating in this series of posts was a recent report complaining about Apple from Cherry, and a follow up post where a fellow monger advised ISG readers to start being nice to her. It's not hard to put two and two together, especially if you read some of the earlier posts about her. She got a reputation for getting into very vigorous sex, especially anal sex. Some of her clients saw an opportunity to "express their attitudes" towards woman and started to get rough with her. She got tired of the pain and abuse and changed her behavior. So a few sadistic sex mongers ruined a good thing for everyone.
I think any monger who is disinterested in whether the girl is enjoying the sex is undermining the overall quality of performance for the rest of us. Sure some girls can fake it for a while, but if every guy she's with is a lousy fuck, or a sick fuck, naturally she's going to become more mechanical; and eventually she'll turn into a robo fuck. Now I'm not saying we're here to please the girls, but I try to be nice to clerks, waitresses and bartenders, not because I want to be their friend but because I want good service. Make the sex more fun for the girl and she'll make it more fun for you. If in spite of your good intentions she turns out to be a robot or a starfish, deal with that when its time to pay her.
I agree, the advice on technique offered by some forum members is a bit juvenile, but it doesn't bother me. I doubt if anyone who has the where with all to stumble across this forum cannot find good information on line about sexual technique or go to a porn site and watch a few of the videos in the "female friendly" category.
Dan,
I would give some advice, if you are interested at all. .
Try to avoid being the school teacher type, and trying to teach other guys how to feel up the girl's pussy or masturbate her. Realise that 99% of this audience here just isn't interested. You may have great technique, but others may not want to be trained. Many guys who cannot make a hooker come, will naturally believe that they just don't, and they just work and act. There are no subtleties in sex for many. Is just get the rocks off, imitate the porno movies, degrade the girl, and pay. Yes, I know that even hookers are capable of having a good time with the right customer, and even missing their favourite customers, because there is such huge gap in the way the customers treat them.
All I am saying is that we might think about what other readers want to read, before we write in such detail on our favourite subjects.LOL, what the fuck. !
Who cares about what others want to read ? Do I have to write what others like to read? I have to write here for 99% of the audience? Do I care what they want to read? --- Are you brain dead?
Dan, do us the favor to be a "school teacher", despite Mr."Superb School Teacher of All School Teachers"'s advice - if you like to, and write what you want to write!! Individual approaches, ideas, reports, appreciated. Whatever you want to write, write it!
Fuck the teachers! ("We don't need no." ).
Giotto
Dan,
I would give some advice, if you are interested at all. While many of us don't like fake girls, others do. While some of us try to arouse the the girl and give her a good time, others don't give a shit. They just pay the money.
Try to avoid being the school teacher type, and trying to teach other guys how to feel up the girl's pussy or masturbate her. Realise that 99% of this audience here just isn't interested. You may have great technique, but others may not want to be trained. Many guys who cannot make a hooker come, will naturally believe that they just don't, and they just work and act. There are no subtleties in sex for many. Is just get the rocks off, imitate the porno movies, degrade the girl, and pay. Yes, I know that even hookers are capable of having a good time with the right customer, and even missing their favourite customers, because there is such huge gap in the way the customers treat them.
All I am saying is that we might think about what other readers want to read, before we write in such detail on our favourite subjects.
Concentrate on themes: Good places to go that have good girls, particular great girls, and what is their style and what made them great for you. These things make up the valuable intel for other readers. Otherwise funny real experiences can be entertaining. This is close to the definition of the purpose of the forum. I wish all would keep that in mind.As Giotto asked,"Are you brain dead"? A lot of us know the answer.
Now you are trying to tell all of us what we want to hear and how to post?
Why don't you go start your own forum with your own rules.
Hey everyone, post as you please. That is what makes this forum different and interesting.
Scorchin1470
04-14-13, 20:11
As Giotto asked,"Are you brain dead"? A lot of us know the answer.
Now you are trying to tell all of us what we want to hear and how to post?
Why don't you go start your own forum with your own rules.
Hey everyone, post as you please. That is what makes this forum different and interesting.We might even get back to writing about Annie's. Which after all is what the thread heading purports to be.
I for one would like to see more discussion on Annie's. An institution living on its past. I must admit, apart from Akane, Chit Lom (excellent) I have visited several of the
S'kvt MPs over the last several years. Annie's was a successor in my first choice after Darling faded. I recall that Darling was as much if not more talked about than
Annie's five, ten years back.
Maybe Annie's is following Darling into oblivion?
Wolvenvacht
04-15-13, 07:19
You seem to have an Orwellian definition of 'real'. Being a good actress is real for you.If she is a good actress, that is "real enough" for me. Anything extra is a bonus: nice but not something I require. Or do you really think that a WG will orgasm *every* time, even with someone who follows your advice?
Which kind of implies that being sincere and genuine is fake and unreal for you. It's the opposite of what people normally consider real and unreal.I did not imply at all that being sincere and genuine is fake or unreal for me. Rather to the contrary: I distinguish the P4P experience and the (real) GFE. To me it seems that you cannot distinguish these and therefore I pity you.
We might even get back to writing about Annie's. Which after all is what the thread heading purports to be.
Maybe Annie's is following Darling into oblivion?Could well be. As any establishment, also Annie's needs to be at pair with the industry. You csntnlivenon past glory. So whilst the room status might not be instrumental to the pleasure a girl can give you, it can help in making customers feeling at ease.
I had a friend that was asking me how "healthy" those establishments are, in terms of cleaningness etc. A worn out location doesn't look ideal for those having those thoughts. Some might not give a damn, some do. These are potentially lost customers or "bad speakers", at the same token one who doesn't care will not talk bad about the improvement. So the investment might pay.
Could it be that busy with the new chain of Dr. BJ, Ayes has been too busy and letting thing go a bit down in Soi 2?
Everytime I pass by and see the girls having their meal (and we know, Thai girls eat 24/7) it does not look much appealing to me to enter and maybe have one of those quickly running to the fishbowl after stopping eating her Tom Yam soup. To be my potential provider. I know, this is quite normal in Thailand and you see this nearly everywhere. But the new customers might have some thoughts. Nothing more than that.
What happens in the room, regardless of their status is another story.
Scorchin1470
04-15-13, 08:33
Could well be. As any establishment, also Annie's needs to be at pair with the industry. You csntnlivenon past glory. So whilst the room status might not be instrumental to the pleasure a girl can give you, it can help in making customers feeling at ease.
Could it be that busy with the new chain of Dr. BJ, Ayes has been too busy and letting thing go a bit down in Soi 2?Unless I am much mistaken Dr BJ's enterprises only opened in 2012 whereas the decline of Annie's facilities dates back five years or more.
The corridors are littered with the detritus of previous sessions; the loos are scruffy and the rooms have not seen new paint for 20 years.
But, notwithstanding these minor issues I have had some wonderful sessions there- and Annie's is on my 'to do' list for Day 2 of my next visit (Day1 is for a proper
Massage after a long flight. Which may or may not lead to FS).
While many of us don't like fake girls, others do.If you truly like fake girls and fake sex, then why go to Thailand at all? You can buy a plastic doll and have sex with it for a lot less money and a lot less hassle.
I think it's fair to assume that when guys goes to real women, then they want to have real sex with them and not fake. Your idea makes no sense to me.
If you truly like fake girls and fake sex, then why go to Thailand at all? You can buy a plastic doll and have sex with it for a lot less money and a lot less hassle.
I think it's fair to assume that when guys goes to real women, then they want to have real sex with them and not fake. Your idea makes no sense to me.Its not an idea. Its just observation that some guys like the silicone, some guys like the lady boys, and some guys like the girl to put on a lot of acting. I prefer girls where nothing fake is detectable.
Naturally my favourite Annies girls are natural and don't bother to tell me bullshit that I don't need.
LOL, what the fuck. !
Who cares about what others want to read? Do I have to write what others like to read? I have to write here for 99% of the audience? Do I care what they want to read?. Are you brain dead?
Dan, do us the favor to be a "school teacher", despite Mr."Superb School Teacher of All School Teachers"'s advice. If you like to, and write what you want to write! Individual approaches, ideas, reports, appreciated. Whatever you want to write, write it!
Fuck the teachers! ("We don't need no." ).
GiottoAmusing view.
I trully believe we should consider what others want to read about and the purpose of the forum and of a thread and am guilty of forgetting this at times. There is little point to writing what is not useful to others, other than just being self absorbed, IMHO. People write what they want, but would be better to engage brain first, and consider is it useful to anyone.
I've noticed that some ladies at Annie's Massage have moved up in their ratings at the website, while other ladies are staying the same.
Ladies #20, 28, 33, 39, 41, and 44 used to be rated somewhere in the 7/10 range, but now they are all rated in the 8/10 range. While other ladies such as #1 and 55 are still the same as before in their ratings.
http://www.anniesbangkok.com/staff.html
It kind of makes me wonder if all these ladies who are improving in their ratings are friends with each other and are learning from each other. These ladies must've learned some pretty good tricks with dicks to deserve such high ratings.
I've noticed that some ladies at Annie's Massage have moved up in their ratings at the website, while other ladies are staying the same.These ladies must've learned some pretty good tricks with dicks to deserve such high ratings.Maybe. The funnything is that when I walk in front of Annie's, just passing by, and see the girls eating at the terrace (some with normal clothing, some with sort of gown and fishnet stockings.) my interest to go inside drops dramatically. As they look like the wife next door doing hte big cleaning in not appealing clothing and not attracting at all. Maybe it is just me.
Maybe. The funnything is that when I walk in front of Annie's, just passing by, and see the girls eating at the terrace (some with normal clothing, some with sort of gown and fishnet stockings.) my interest to go inside drops dramatically. As they look like the wife next door doing hte big cleaning in not appealing clothing and not attracting at all. Maybe it is just me.Some are dressed plainly so as not to attract attention when travelling to work. My girl today dresses a bit too hot and so everyone is looking at her. All guys outside Majestic Grande are focussed on her. Unfortunately not all girls can be head turners but they probably fuck much better than the wife next door.
Try to ignore their outside dress. Some will be changing inside.
Some are dressed plainly so as not to attract attention when travelling to work. My girl today dresses a bit too hot and so everyone is looking at her. All guys outside Majestic Grande are focussed on her. Unfortunately not all girls can be head turners but they probably fuck much better than the wife next door. Try to ignore their outside dress. Some will be changing inside.I know. I know. I don't question they need to be head turners, but what is puzzling me is seeing the house canteen there and then thinking those in the fishbowl where just there a few minutes before on the previous eating shift. Adds a bit the "fakeness" (I am not illusioned if I go there, of course)
I know. I know. I don't question they need to be head turners, but what is puzzling me is seeing the house canteen there and then thinking those in the fishbowl where just there a few minutes before on the previous eating shift. Adds a bit the "fakeness" (I am not illusioned if I go there, of course)Aor is very tall (even without heels) and dresses provocatively (ouch. Too hot). She goes around the MRT dressed to draw attention to her super ass and legs with her LB best friend, and naturally most people are thinking "exaggerated" and she must obviously be a LB too. She doesn't care at all. Obviously has got used to being gawked at.
Hot girls might be better off dressed more plainly and plain girls would be better of dressed a bit more sexily (maybe).
I remember a famous Tulip girl who dressed unbelievably demurely when she was outside the MP, as though trying to look as plain as possible and certainly not looking like an obvious hooker, but hot when inside at work. I prefer girls outside to dress not too demure and not too hot. Somewhere in the mid-range and classy is better. However they are what they are. We just have to accept it.
. Somewhere in the mid-range and classy is better. However they are what they are. We just have to accept it.Far more than correct.
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