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Member #4351
03-06-13, 22:55
Heard that Rajah Hotel is a bit bad but is it so bad to punish the 2nd runner with two nights?The Thai girls think it is haunted.
Thanks for the info. How did you find the Thai fixer? And do you know if one could have fun at Rajah during daytime also or one must visit between 7-8?
Looks like CIS FLs are a better option at grace.Soemetime the guys is sitting outside the Rajah, at the bar opposite, baseball cap. If you look as a punter he will approach you
Soemetime the guys is sitting outside the Rajah, at the bar opposite, baseball cap. If you look as a punter he will approach youHaha. What is the punter look?
A visible hard on sticking up in your pants and 1k B hanging from your pockets.
Heatssss522
03-21-13, 16:56
There is always a short hair, blonde "Russian" lady sitting in the terrace of Subway at the corner of Sukh and Soi 7/1, the terrace faces the little Soi. Maybe she is Elena. First time we know here price and name: the value of this forum, sooner or later infos pop up.
I am not much attracted to test a CIS in Thailand but she seems a nice (as in attitude) lady. She is part of the furniture there.I did the short hair blonde two times, in both my two trips to Bangkok. In my first trip I asked her name and she said "Lana". After my first trip I read from ISG that this short hair blonde is Elena. Then during the second trip, I just checked in my hotel, and went to seven eleven to buy a sim card, There I met Lana and asked her, are you elena? She said "no". Then I asked you Sit in subway soi7/1. She said no. Then I said her I'm sorry I misunderstood you as other person, and she left. Then the next day night I saw her sitting in subway and it was the same women there, then I approached her and asked her that I met you today early morning, you said your not elena, to which she replied" I am Lana, not elena", then I asked her do you remember me, we met a month and a half before, she said " there are so many customers, and I don't rememebr U". I think she is lying. Then she took me to the short time room and finished with the deed. She declined to come to my hotel.
I did the short hair blonde two times, in both my two trips to Bangkok. In my first trip I asked her name and she said "Lana". After my first trip I read from ISG that this short hair blonde is Elena. Then during the second trip, I just checked in my hotel, and went to seven eleven to buy a sim card, There I met Lana and asked her, are you elena? She said "no". Then I asked you Sit in subway soi7/1. She said no. Then I said her I'm sorry I misunderstood you as other person, and she left. Then the next day night I saw her sitting in subway and it was the same women there, then I approached her and asked her that I met you today early morning, you said your not elena, to which she replied" I am Lana, not elena", then I asked her do you remember me, we met a month and a half before, she said " there are so many customers, and I don't rememebr U". I think she is lying. Then she took me to the short time room and finished with the deed. She declined to come to my hotel.I think the confusion is because there are TWO short blondes that sit at that table outside Subway. Not sure, but I think the taller of the two is Elena, and she is more of a fixture than the shorter, dumpier chick. A bit more attractive as well, though ain't neither one of them going to be the next Miss World.
Haha. What is the punter look?
A visible hard on sticking up in your pants and 1k B hanging from your pockets.And mouthwathering dripping from his mouth. LOL
I think the confusion is because there are TWO short blondes that sit at that table outside Subway. Not sure, but I think the taller of the two is Elena, and she is more of a fixture than the shorter, dumpier chick. A bit more attractive as well, though ain't neither one of them going to be the next Miss World.Correct! I think Elena is the slimmer of the two."Elena" seems more a permanent fixture. The other more occasional (or more busy? LOL)
Correct! I think Elena is the slimmer of the two."Elena" seems more a permanent fixture. The other more occasional (or more busy? LOL)Righto. I think we got that sorted out.
Heatssss522
03-23-13, 05:11
Righto. I think we got that sorted out.Lana said that she is from Moscow. And I see her almost everytime sitting in subway.
I did the short hair blonde two times, in both my two trips to Bangkok. In my first trip I asked her name and she said "Lana". After my first trip I read from ISG that this short hair blonde is Elena. Then during the second trip, I just checked in my hotel, and went to seven eleven to buy a sim card, There I met Lana and asked her, are you elena? She said "no". Then I asked you Sit in subway soi7/1. She said no. Then I said her I'm sorry I misunderstood you as other person, and she left. Then the next day night I saw her sitting in subway and it was the same women there, then I approached her and asked her that I met you today early morning, you said your not elena, to which she replied" I am Lana, not elena", then I asked her do you remember me, we met a month and a half before, she said " there are so many customers, and I don't rememebr U". I think she is lying. Then she took me to the short time room and finished with the deed. She declined to come to my hotel.Lena, Elena, Alona, Alena, all mean the same, but russians being stuck up arrogant bitches will behave like this. I know because I was married to one.
Lena, Elena, Alona, Alena, all mean the same, but russians being stuck up arrogant bitches will behave like this. I know because I was married to one.You forgot Alina. LOL.
Anyhow I think that the "bad" Elena is not the one that sits most of the time at Subway.
If you see below that Elena seems ok, There is another one, as per reports, a bit more chubby, which name sounds similar, also at Subway, not as much as the "good one"
The one referred negatively might not have ever been at Subway. So she must be another one.
True that the Russian (WG in general, especially when abroad) do not have the best reputation, although reports from Dubai still mentions some good ones.
If one wants to see what the Rajah hotel market offers (between soi 2 and 4) in terms of russians without going up to the room, he has to be patient and catch the girls out of the lobby in their smoking break. Sometime they also venture to the nearby 7-11
I've walked by Subway a few times over the past several days and no sign of the Russian girl (s). Maybe I just missed them, or maybe they are wiser than we are and vacated broiling BKK for a while. Forecast for 106 on Sunday.
Crocodilexp
04-23-13, 12:47
Russian with big naturals (face not important) or Russian with small naturals (pretty model face) No bolt ons and definitely no trolls. Any providers or helping hands?What are you, ordering a custom-made take-out pizza?
Most help you'll get here is being pointed in the general direction of places where Russian or other foreign prostitutes operate. Go there (Rajah, Grace, CM2 or wherever) and look for yourself.
It's silly to think a fellow member will somehow deliver you an exact girl (or a pair) that you want.
I've walked by Subway a few times over the past several days and no sign of the Russian girl (s). Maybe I just missed them, or maybe they are wiser than we are and vacated broiling BKK for a while. Forecast for 106 on Sunday.Yep, MIA (missing in action) , mist likely stayed away from unwanted Songkran showers.
I've walked by Subway a few times over the past several days and no sign of the Russian girl (s). Maybe I just missed them, or maybe they are wiser than we are and vacated broiling BKK for a while. Forecast for 106 on Sunday.I believe that they are around, but I go past their about 6 times a day when in town and have never seen them either.
NeverGetsOld
04-24-13, 01:00
What are you, ordering a custom-made take-out pizza?
Most help you'll get here is being pointed in the general direction of places where Russian or other foreign prostitutes operate. Go there (Rajah, Grace, CM2 or wherever) and look for yourself.
It's silly to think a fellow member will somehow deliver you an exact girl (or a pair) that you want.Not so silly. Little scared of the quality of street walkers; anything without needle marks? All the Russian escorts I see in Bangkok have bad fake tits.
NeverGetsOld
05-08-13, 13:01
Anything decent in this arena.
There stomping grand is lower sukhumvit, around 2am right?
I've seen about 5-7 of them walking around off hours and wasn't impressed with their bodies.
Anything decent on the late night? Different spots they hang?
Coming from Philly, I've fucked plenty of black chicks, even lost my virginity to one, but never straight out the Bush but would like to.
Anything decent in this arena.There stomping grand is lower sukhumvit, around 2am right? I've seen about 5-7 of them walking around off hours and wasn't impressed with their bodies.Anything decent on the late night? Different spots they hang? Coming from Philly, I've fucked plenty of black chicks, even lost my virginity to one, but never straight out the Bush but would like to.There is a couple of them who have decent bodies, nevertheless, their fame and reputation is such that, even if I'd be interested to try an african in Thailand, I would not even dare or bother to ask for their pricing.
Coming from Philly, I've fucked plenty of black chicks, even lost my virginity to one, but never straight out the Bush but would like to.There are spots in Africa where you literally get them out of the Bush, why not consider a tremendous experience on the African continent, I'm born and raised on African tang, had so much I have lost count. Take your pick of countries, do your homework and go. Prices quoted on this forum are far above what you can actually acquire of hot young bodied, willing and horny African women.
I have only ever tapped one African in Bangkok, have not been tempted again. As mentioned, the pickings are dire and off putting on Sukhumvit, and being from Africa I just will not bother with African tang on the streets of Bangkok, rather leave that for my next journey home to the land of plenty, cheap, and available hot black babes.
I live in London and do not even bother here either.
Countries of choice are plentiful. Kenya is becoming ruined, look to Uganda. Ghana was too expensive as a whole when I was there. Zambia is real friendly and comparatively safe. Zimbabwe would be good, even now, I'm tempted before it opens up becoming too expensive, you can look to Mozambique and South Africa. There are ares of SA which are safer than western cities and you can get some cheap tang if you are patient, hunt well. Prices as low as R150, $17 ST if you negotiate sensibly. I have had African honey for as little as R50.
LOL, maybe I lit a fire in you. Hope so.
NeverGetsOld
05-09-13, 04:58
LOL, maybe I lit a fire in you. Hope so.Great post! Yes, you sure did and won't even bother looking here. That sounds like so much funnnnnn. I was just looking into Morocco yesterday and thought Egypt or South Africa might be a good destination but never considered the rest of Africa. I am so ignorant of the continent and that needs to change. All I know is that I love movie Hotel Rwanda.
Crocodilexp
05-10-13, 18:48
Not so silly. Little scared of the quality of street walkers; anything without needle marks? All the Russian escorts I see in Bangkok have bad fake tits."Russian" working girls in Bangkok are mostly Central Asians (Uzbek, Kazakh etc) , and tend to be the rejects who can't make it any longer in prime-time hooker spots (Dubai, Hong Kong etc.) Quality is mostly abysmal, although there are _occasionally_ a few cuties at Rajah (for 2600 / pop) and CM2 (for a lot of money). They're all (even the younger ones) hardened hookers who have been at the sex track for quite long, you won't find any beginners / amateurs.
Global Surfer
05-14-13, 01:19
That's not to appealing to me. Going to guess, Pattaya or maybe Phuket better for Russian vagina. Before leaving Philadelphia, I met a bunch in the club scene. My last American rendevouz was dinner & drinks with hot girl from country of Georgia who I got number from but she didn't let me in at the end of the night. Fucking atrocious. Basically just want some nice white pussy under 3000 baht every couple months to break up the monotony of a hot Asian chicks blowing me.
Geez the weez. 3rd world problems. I tell ya. Or is Thailand 2nd world country now.Try CM2 but in my last trip in the last week of March quality was really low.
I manage to get a street walker in from of Grace Hotel. She was from St Petersburg (what she told me). Quality was not very good 5/10 but service was excellent. She charged BHT 2000 ST.
Central Asians / Russians inside Grace are expensive BHT 4000+
You may get good quality Russian in Rajah hotel. I think going rate is BHT 2600 but you cannot take her out
Basically just want some nice white pussy under 3000 baht every couple months to break up the monotony of a hot Asian chicks blowing me.TGs & other Asians come in white. For example:
http://th.lifestyleasia.com/en/event-galleries/miss-grand-thailand-2013
Geez the weez. 3rd world problems. I tell ya. Or is Thailand 2nd world country now.I'd consider the NEP area of Bangkok as first world.
Try CM2 but in my last trip in the last week of March quality was really low. I manage to get a street walker in from of Grace Hotel. She was from St Petersburg (what she told me). Quality was not very good 5/10 but service was excellent. She charged BHT 2000 ST. Central Asians / Russians inside Grace are expensive BHT 4000+
You may get good quality Russian in Rajah hotel. I think going rate is BHT 2600 but you cannot take her outAnd last but not least. Elena the "non chubby" blonde (there is sometime another one who is a bit more chubby, hence the detail) sitting at the terrace of Subaway Soi 7/1, reported 1000b, ST at her place and service quite decent.
Member #4387
05-14-13, 16:57
And last but not least. Elena the "non chubby" blonde (there is sometime another one who is a bit more chubby, hence the detail) sitting at the terrace of Subaway Soi 7/1, reported 1000b, ST at her place and service quite decent.Damn it I can not get Subway Elena (the slim one with short blonde hair) out of my head. I have pretty much decided to do her and check out her A+ level the 30 of May when I return into BKK. Did you try her yourself Bionic?
Damn it I can not get Subway Elena (the slim one with short blonde hair) out of my head. I have pretty much decided to do her and check out her A+ level the 30 of May when I return into BKK. Did you try her yourself Bionic?Nope. Had her I the agenda but she wss not around when I was there last time.
Shee seems cool and off the usual format of CSI being greedy and rushy. There was a report somewhere postiive about her. Maybe a few pages below
Nope. Had her I the agenda but she wss not around when I was there last time.
Shee seems cool and off the usual format of CSI being greedy and rushy. There was a report somewhere postiive about her. Maybe a few pages belowI tried Elena two years back. She is a MILF but she was great GFE and a change from the Thai routine. She can also have a good discussion.
That day was as I remember 2nd of July 2011. It was the pre Election Day. On that day, sale of alcohol was prohibited and all Gogos were closed. It was also raining crazy. I kept on cruising Walking street to find any good catch. However, it was hopeless, talent was very low. It seems the girls were getting ready to vote.
Then I found a Turkish cafe with hookah towards the end of Walking street where I sat to get my Shisha. Leena was the only girl there sitting close to me. As it was my first visit to Pattaya, I was not sure that she was a WG. Then, I noticed that she was very much known to the staff cafe which was an indication that she is. I moved my chair next to her and started to strike a conversation with her. In the same time I was inspecting her body and checking whether there is any signs of drugs.
She offered to come with me for 1000b which was a surprise to me as she looked much hotter than the gogo bars who charges 2 and 3k. Off we went. But she said that she has to find a drink before hitting the room which we couldn't buy even from 7/11. So I had to offer her Heineken from my mini bar. She said that if there is no Booz, she simply cannot work. After drinking couple of Heinekens, she was ready for Junior.
Experience was good. However, I felt that she is the type that falls in love with any nice guy which is not CIS attitude. She wanted to sleep over but I told her that I am travelling next day to Bangkok. I still got her digits which she gave to me so that I would call her when back in town. I will try calling her during my trip next month.
Nope. Had her I the agenda but she wss not around when I was there last time.
Shee seems cool and off the usual format of CSI being greedy and rushy. There was a report somewhere postiive about her. Maybe a few pages belowI tried Elena two years back. She is a MILF but she was great GFE and a change from the Thai routine. She can also have a good discussion.
That day was as I remember 2nd of July 2011. It was the pre Election Day. On that day, sale of alcohol was prohibited and all Gogos were closed. It was also raining crazy. I kept on cruising Walking street to find any good catch. However, it was hopeless, talent was very low. It seems the girls were getting ready to vote.
Then I found a Turkish cafe with hookah towards the end of Walking street where I sat to get my Shisha. Leena was the only girl there sitting close to me. As it was my first visit to Pattaya, I was not sure that she was a WG. Then, I noticed that she was very much known to the staff cafe which was an indication that she is. I moved my chair next to her and started to strike a conversation with her. In the same time I was inspecting her body and checking whether there is any signs of drugs.
She offered to come with me for 1000b which was a surprise to me as she looked much hotter than the gogo bars who charges 2 and 3k. Off we went. But she said that she has to find a drink before hitting the room which we couldn't buy even from 7/11. So I had to offer her Heineken from my mini bar. She said that if there is no Booz, she simply cannot work. After drinking couple of Heinekens, she was ready for Junior.
Experience was good. However, I felt that she is the type that falls in love with any nice guy which is not CIS attitude. She wanted to sleep over but I told her that I am travelling next day to Bangkok. I still got her digits which she gave to me so that I would call her when back in town. I will try calling her during my trip next month.
Global Surfer
05-15-13, 01:18
Nope. Had her I the agenda but she wss not around when I was there last time.
Shee seems cool and off the usual format of CSI being greedy and rushy. There was a report somewhere postiive about her. Maybe a few pages belowI think both of them are post menopausal. In my previous visit in 2011, I met one dyed blond Uzbek who was bit younger.
One of them introduces herself as gynaecologist from Ukraine. I think she probably was midwife or CNS. I think in 2009 there was another girl half Ukrainian half Korean (North) with her. I used her services for 1000 ST. I would rate her services 6/10. She was cooperative but not enthusiastic.
I think both of them are post menopausal.Seems on her late 40's to me, just by looking. Thanks for the additional info
Global Surfer
05-16-13, 01:20
Seems on her late 40's to me, just by looking. Thanks for the additional infoHave you ever tried Grace Hotel coffee shop? You can usually find Uzbeks. In my previous visits, I have even seen Turks and even one Columbian. The only trouble is that the place is full of super rich Arabs and you will have to pay the premium. In some restaurants between Grace and Sukhumvit you can even find Arabs (probably Morocco or Palestinian). There you can get away with BHT 1500/2000 ST. I have seen only two and both of them were bit too heavy.
Good suggestion. Maybe I'll just bar fine 1 of those jap looking girls once in a blue moon and call it a day.
This 9. 5 22 why / o girl I'm fucking is sexier then maybe all those Miss Grand girls.
What kind of half a man is scared of a little bit of pigment.
Umm lady boys, cracked streets, public drunkenness, knock off items and 4000 cum receptacles is 1st world?You can find things like that and far worse in any first world country. What the NEP area has & you won't find in a 3rd world nation is the density of fine hotels, large supermarkets, a world class hospital, a 1st world skytain which in minutes will take you to a number of the world's best malls, etc. Apparently you can't get even one of those items, let alone the whole package, in the Geylang monger area of Singapore.
As far as white skinned girls in BKK goes, there are plenty of TGs in the massage places for your price, more or less. Some TGs look more farang than Asian & in some cases they are half & half. But without any pics it can be difficult to gauge what you're looking for. Your 9. 5 will be some other guys 3. 0. Personally I'd prefer some of the petite HKG whities at sex 141 dot com, some of whom go for a lot less than 3000 baht, over the Thai Miss Grands. If hotels were not so expensive in HKG, I might be there now instead of BKK.
NeverGetsOld
05-16-13, 04:40
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NeverGetsOld
05-16-13, 04:46
You can find things like that and far worse in any first world country. What the NEP area has & you won't find in a 3rd world nation is the density of fine hotels, large supermarkets, a world class hospital, a 1st world skytain which in minutes will take you to a number of the world's best malls, etc. Apparently you can't get even one of those items, let alone the whole package, in the Geylang monger area of Singapore.
As far as white skinned girls in BKK goes, there are plenty of TGs in the massage places for your price, more or less. Some TGs look more farang than Asian & in some cases they are half & half. But without any pics it can be difficult to gauge what you're looking for. Your 9. 5 will be some other guys 3. 0. Personally I'd prefer some of the petite HKG whities at sex 141 dot com, some of whom go for a lot less than 3000 baht, over the Thai Miss Grands. If hotels were not so expensive in HKG, I might be there now instead of BKK.Whoa I owe you for the website hook up. Those HKG whities are perfect 10s. Do make my girl look like an 7 or 8. Have a trip paid for in Hong Kong in 4 1/2 months and will have 1 of them waiting in my hotel room on arrival.
Damn it I can not get Subway Elena (the slim one with short blonde hair) out of my head. I have pretty much decided to do her and check out her A+ level the 30 of May when I return into BKK. Did you try her yourself Bionic?I saw her the other day walking past her Subway hangout. First time I'd seen her in more than a month. Daylight does not do her any favors.
Member #4387
05-28-13, 07:23
I saw her the other day walking past her Subway hangout. First time I'd seen her in more than a month. Daylight does not do her any favors.Ok I better wait until daylight dims then. LOL
My hi so sources told me Subway no longer wants hookers lounging on their property. They did do quite a costly renpvation recently.The dumpier Ruskie was sitting in her usual chair outside Subway last night.
Couple of Blondes in the middle of this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1veT29iT8Ak
Maybe they are Ruski hookers?
The night I visited in Jan 2010 there were many good looking Blonde hookers but expensive. I didn't partake but went back to the Radja and did a nice blonde there for 2600. Highlight was she didn't wash her pussy and it smelt real nice!
Grateful Spread
06-08-13, 00:51
I applaude Thai LE trying to get rid of as many (hopefully all) of the Africans in BKK.Shame their efforts don't extend to some of the mongers too.
.Highlight was she didn't wash her pussy and it smelt real nice!Eewwww. I guess there are all kinds of kinks around.
Member #4351
06-08-13, 20:33
Eewwww.
I guess there are all kinds of kinks around.No kink, just biology; called pheromones.
Was just watching some of Buck Wilds Vids on Youtube. He was talking in this video about the beach road ladies and was following what he called a "European working girl"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gsAPkFHt88
We don't see her face but she certainly looks like a hoor from behind. Where was she walking to I wonder?
Crocodilexp
06-09-13, 11:06
Was just watching some of Buck Wilds Vids on Youtube. He was talking in this video about the beach road ladies and was following what he called a "European working girl"Without seeing her face, could easily be a Thai girl or ladyboy with blond-dyed hair. Or a Russian tourist, they're know to dress inappropriately.
There are some central-Asian hookers around Pattaya (including on Beach Road) , but they wouldn't dress quite like that or be that young.
Without seeing her face, could easily be a Thai girl or ladyboy with blond-dyed hair. Or a Russian tourist, they're know to dress inappropriately.
There are some central-Asian hookers around Pattaya (including on Beach Road) , but they wouldn't dress quite like that or be that young.You could have a nasty surprise once you take off the pants / skirt. As I saw many of thai "workers" are ladyboys. But hey if you don't mind a huge sausage down your ass, I guess is ok.
We don't see her face but she certainly looks like a hoor from behind. Where was she walking to I wonder?She looked like she was on a mission. Got that little red dress on. Striding purposefully ahead and not looking round even though he passed her a couple of times with a video camera in his hand.
Now how do you figure that. He was fiddling with the video camera, adjusting the focus, doing commentary, filming different things, even turning round and filming across the street a few times but yet he still caught up with her and passed her at least twice.
I was hoping that he would have lifted her little red skirt with his free hand and razzed her arse just to get her to look round at least once.
I've seen a few of his videos. He barfained an entire bar in Philippines for him and his friends once. 25+ girls for a crazy orgy. I don't know why anyone would pay him though. His videos are informative.
She looked like she was on a mission. Got that little red dress on. Striding purposefully ahead and not looking round even though he passed her a couple of times with a video camera in his hand.
Now how do you figure that. He was fiddling with the video camera, adjusting the focus, doing commentary, filming different things, even turning round and filming across the street a few times but yet he still caught up with her and passed her at least twice.
I was hoping that he would have lifted her little red skirt with his free hand and razzed her arse just to get her to look round at least once.
The dumpier Ruskie was sitting in her usual chair outside Subway last night.As people for some reason care about this I can report that both russians have been camping all day outside subway. I thought I had seen the dumpy ruskie before but I was mistaken. There is an even dumpier companion that sits further towards the main road, the power of NOPE was almost to strong to enter the soi when they are both there. They scream "babyyyyy I am Russian babbyyy where you gooo" like it's a good thing.
. They scream "babyyyyy I am Russian babbyyy where you gooo" like it's a good thing.For some it seems.
Lots of questions here how to find a Russian, a Jamaican, a Brazilian or whatever in LOS.
Some can't travel to those counties and aware of the strong mongering scene in BKK, they want to try that opportunity.
I once had a Russian and a nigerian (separately) in Rio spa in Macau. A jamaican in OT, Singapore, and a tanzanian in KL.
It was a jibe at their looks. At least go to some of the other known places and pick up a gal that doesn't look like 500b would be overpriced. I my self have been tempted by some of the africans but I hear so much rumors about them so I dare not. Variety is nice.
Any new reports about this foreign workers. Especiallu usbek / ex USSR girls?
Member #4387
07-01-13, 08:29
Any new reports about this foreign workers. Especiallu usbek / ex USSR girls?If I try to be modest many "stanis" and some from south america (Colombia) was to be had in CM2 / novotel. 4/5k baht. But maby negotiable I don't know as I did not check.
AssLover945
07-01-13, 19:16
I went to the Rajah Hotel as mentioned in the forums to check out the talent.
Even though white girls are not to my liking, went there just for the heck of it as I was in the neighborhood that night.
It was absolutely dismal.
Just MHO though
Member #4387
07-01-13, 23:43
Wow and wow what a stunner. Drove her own car (very drunk so driving skills soso). She did not claim money after deed done but I felt obligated to give her a nice 5k comp. Maby a tad on the high side but she was a squirter so money well diserved. She was ejaculating many times and directed her "water" towards my chest. Feel happy pappy now.
Wow and wow what a stunner. Drove her own car (very drunk so driving skills soso). She did not claim money after deed done but I felt obligated to give her a nice 5k comp. Maby a tad on the high side but she was a squirter so money well diserved. She was ejaculating many times and directed her "water" towards my chest. Feel happy pappy now.Regardless she was "free" (if we can say that so) , was she a WG? Some girls are smart not asking for money, aware handsome men will be nice to them anyhow, and maybe nicer than her asking for a fee. Can't judge the 5k reward, but as you are happy, that is what counts. Forget price police.
Evil Penivel
07-11-13, 15:51
These are pics I took about 18 months ago of Angel from Sudan. I met her in a beer bar on WS. NOT the no-name bar diagonally across the street from FLB. It was the Lucky Star beer bar, which is a bit closer to Beach Road. I knew one of the girls at that bar and had dropped by to see her. Angel just started chatting with me, she didn't seem to be hunting for customers, only having a drink and checking her cell phone.
It was around Christmas and I gave her a small teddy bear with a candy cane. She seemed very moved by that. She said it was the first time anyone had ever given her a Christmas present. Of course, that could have a lot to do with her being Muslim, but she appeared to be confounded by the fact that she got a gift, however small, without the giver wanting anything in return. She did give a very sweet kiss on the cheek.
I have to say straight up that black girls aren't my thing. If I'd have been interested in ebony princesses, there were plenty available when I lived in NYC. And if you crossed the Hudson River and drove about 15 minutes into Newark, NJ, you felt like Santa Claus no matter what time of year it was. Everywhere you looked, you couldn't help thinking,"Ho ho ho."
Trafficked African hookers definitely aren't my thing, but I liked talking to Angel and met her several times after that just to chat. She was part of a small group of women who were moved around Asia by an Africa-based gang. She had a very tough life. If her "handler," I. E. Pimp, had known she was telling me about certain things, he would have chopped her into pieces and fed the parts to a crocodile. That's why I waited so long to post the pics. She and her pimp will have been long gone by now.
I had told her that if she felt like talking, she was welcome to call me. I also made clear I wasn't interested in her services. Sometimes we chatted on the phone, but mostly I met her in a restaurant or bar away from WS for face-to-face conversation. I bought her a few meals and some drinks, but never gave her any money. Because I asked so many questions about the traffickers, she began to suspect I was a cop or someone else official and stopped calling.
She did help me keep things in perspective. Trafficking is a very nasty operation and the only way we to hurt it as tourists / expats is to avoid trafficked women. With very, very few exceptions. 100% of the foreign women involved in P4P in Thailand are trafficked and it's best to stick with Thais or non-working tourist women.
I remember once, too, when she got a series of calls on her cell phone and I remarked,"You have a lot of friends." She answered, rather regretfully,"Not friends. Customers."
Evil
Naked Gunz
07-11-13, 16:15
I have to say straight up that black girls aren't my thing.SHE has a lot of mileage! The booze and cigs and lifestyle have taken it's toll. Nothing more sad than an aged hooker- Black, White or whatever.
I have seen only one African I wanted in PTY, (they have been bringing in 3rd team skanks) , but unfortunately the GF was sitting next to me when she walked by.
Paul Kausch
07-11-13, 22:58
These are pics I took about 18 months ago of Angel from Sudan. I met her in a beer bar on WS. NOT the no-name bar diagonally across the street from FLB. It was the Lucky Star beer bar, which is a bit closer to Beach Road. I knew one of the girls at that bar and had dropped by to see her. Angel just started chatting with me, she didn't seem to be hunting for customers, only having a drink and checking her cell phone.
She did help me keep things in perspective. Trafficking is a very nasty operation and the only way we to hurt it as tourists / expats is to avoid trafficked women. With very, very few exceptions. 100% of the foreign women involved in P4P in Thailand are trafficked and it's best to stick with Thais or non-working tourist women.
EvilWorth while reading and reflecting on this. About the same time you took these photos I did ST with a girl from one of the NEP gogos. She took me to the room she said she lived in at the nearby ST hotel; and it did look like someone with a few sparse possessions lived there. She told me she was Cambodian (she certainly looked it) and couldn't leave NEP. She also told me about the "liberties" the bar's manager and some employees took with her. I have no way of corroborating her story, but out of curiosity I offered her double the rate for LT at my hotel to which she replied,"can't leave."
Member #4387
07-27-13, 13:10
Was stralling the streets last night in lower Sukhumvit and decided to pop in to say hello the the Dr BJ. As usual Elena was sitting by her officedesk outside Subway. As usual she did not recognize me so everytime I introduce myself. This time she seemed more desperate and did not have time for any chit chats. She interrupted me while I was about to ask her if she wanted a baguette by offering ST / 1K, including everything, back at her place in Soi 22 (I think she said). Without me beeing able to respond she negotiated on her own the price down to 700bht (probably shows she did not finish any economical edu). I politely declined, thanked her for her kind offer and off I went.
A couple of hours later on my way back from the Doc, Elena once again shouted at me. As usual she did not recognize me and once again what written above happened (ex me offering her a baguette). The same desperate look in her eye. For fun I just asked if 500bht was possible and she happily nodded. But as usual, even if I actualy sometimes seriously considered taking her for a spin, I declined her kind offer.
So if some fellow members happens to be in BKK and want some ruskie action. Run down to Subway there is a needing siberian woman with short blonde hair sitting and waiting for some real studs and at cheap price as well. Not the best short time memory but still doable (I would humbly rate her 5/6 prob 6 because of rather well developed boobies).
Saw this Blonde WG sitting in front of Subway two days ago. I saw the infamous Elena some time ago and if my memory serves me right this lady does not look like her or maybe she does, I don't remember her that well. This woman told me she is from Ukraine and used another name but (not Elena). She offered her services for 1000b for FS and massage. I did not take her up and started to walk away so she asked me how much, I waved her off but know that you can negotiate with her. If you like this type of woman, go to Soi 7-1 and get her in between her servicing customers. Pic is not the best quality as I took this with my phone.
As usual she did not recognize me so everytime I introduce myself___She interrupted me while I was about to ask her if she wanted a baguette by offering ST / 1K, including everythingShe may have been confused by your offer to buy her a baguette. In many parts of the world, offering to buy a woman a long hard piece of bread is a euphemism. I love your report though. She never recognizes you!
Awesome Man
08-05-13, 14:42
I know that GF hotels allows sex workers to go with you to your room. But is ok with non-thais as well? I mean, they have to show their ID right?
I like the idea to take an african girl to my room, but I don't like the idea of getting into trouble.
Pointy Stick
08-06-13, 08:10
I know that GF hotels allows sex workers to go with you to your room. But is ok with non-thais as well? I mean, they have to show their I'd right?
I like the idea to take an african girl to my room, but I don't like the idea of getting into trouble.I took an Uzbek hooker back to the Dynasty in Soi 4. No problems.
Crocodilexp
08-06-13, 11:30
I know that GF hotels allows sex workers to go with you to your room. But is ok with non-thais as well? I mean, they have to show their I'd right?
I like the idea to take an african girl to my room, but I don't like the idea of getting into trouble.The hotel I'd check routine is for YOUR protection, mostly. Africans do have passports (police checks them fairly often) , so you can ask her to show that. In mid-range establishments, you can usually ask them to skip the I'd check (just tell them it's OK not to check). Or if they insist, you can use a ST hotel (which is safer anyway).
I know that GF hotels allows sex workers to go with you to your room. But is ok with non-thais as well? I mean, they have to show their I'd right?
I like the idea to take an african girl to my room, but I don't like the idea of getting into trouble.Them being from Africa I'd be much more concerned about their HIV than their I. D.
Some African countries have like a 20 percent HIV rate, don't they? So for a prostitute it would be what, closer to 80 percent?
Global Surfer
08-10-13, 00:08
I know that GF hotels allows sex workers to go with you to your room. But is ok with non-thais as well? I mean, they have to show their I'd right?
I like the idea to take an african girl to my room, but I don't like the idea of getting into trouble.I have broudt Russian, Uzbek, Thai and African (Senegal) to Dynaysty Grande without any problem.
I have heard that some hotels charge for Foreign Workers including Nana Hotel. However, I was unable to confirm that
Member #4387
08-10-13, 01:37
Them being from Africa I'd be much more concerned about their HIV than their I. D.
Some African countries have like a 20 percent HIV rate, don't they? So for a prostitute it would be what, closer to 80 percent?Haha you are unbelievable negative to all facts of life and afraid of everything. You are an halfemptyglass kind of guy but be careful so the glass don't break. Wear your thick kevlarglowes just in case. LOL
Awesome Man
08-10-13, 06:21
The hotel I'd check routine is for YOUR protection, mostly. Africans do have passports (police checks them fairly often) , so you can ask her to show that. In mid-range establishments, you can usually ask them to skip the I'd check (just tell them it's OK not to check). Or if they insist, you can use a ST hotel (which is safer anyway).Thank's for your reply. I 've never had a black woman yet, so maybe I'll give it a try when I come to Bangkok.
How about the prices then? Same price for ST as for The thai freelancers?
How about the prices then? Same price for ST as for The thai freelancers?Affirmative. Negotiate, you may get her down to 800b.
I have heard that some hotels charge for Foreign Workers including Nana Hotel. However, I was unable to confirm thatI had no problems taking foreign girls to my room at Nana, no extra charge as your room will be a double.
Them being from Africa I'd be much more concerned about their HIV than their I. D.
Some African countries have like a 20 percent HIV rate, don't they? So for a prostitute it would be what, closer to 80 percent?Highly dubious and misleading stats yet again by this unfortunate member, he cleverly veils this as a question. Above all, some of my fellow Africans would be appalled at his racist slant. I only know of one African in my life who has HIV / AIDS and he was gay, I believe he got the dreadful disease upon his visit to the good old USA.
Do not trust statistics put forward by most organizations.
I know that GF hotels allows sex workers to go with you to your room. But is ok with non-thais as well? I mean, they have to show their I'd right?
I like the idea to take an african girl to my room, but I don't like the idea of getting into trouble.No trouble Sir, if you desire it is worth the trouble. I and many others have had no problems to date, none that I have read of. The girls all carry the necessary I'd document.
Member #4351
08-10-13, 17:17
FWIW, I brought an African SW into the J. W. Marriott on my last trip. No problem at all.
Them being from Africa I'd be much more concerned about their HIV than their I. D.When I meet a hot Kenyan babe, am I suddenly think about HIV? Hell no. I am thinking about those luscious lips, swollen nipples, big conical tits, etc. Wear a condom and sleep easy.
Thank's for your reply. I 've never had a black woman yet, so maybe I'll give it a try when I come to Bangkok.Bangkok is not necessarily providing the very best of black women. So I wonder why you choose Thailand to try them. If you were a black girl lover, then no problem. If you have no better place to find them, then okay I have done many black girls, but never in Bangkok. My home country, and certain countries in Europe are good hunting grounds (higher quality expected) , as well as South America, West Indies, and Africa itself. So I suggest don't go out of your way to make it a black girl, but simply choose the best available girl at the time, regardless of the colour.
When I meet a hot Kenyan babe, am I suddenly think about HIV? Hell no. I am thinking about those luscious lips, swollen nipples, big conical tits, etc. Wear a condom and sleep easy.The only BKK Africans I've seen personally or ever heard anyone refer to, in reading this & other forums since 2007, are those street walkers on lower sukhumvit near NEP. Do you pick them up there?
I'm not interested in them because, one, they're not attractive, two, they're pimped, and three, the HIV factor. I do look, that is, think about things like that, before I leap. What you describe is called thinking with the little head. BTW, the HIV factor is one reason why I'd prefer to settle in BKK rather than, say, cheaper Indonesia.
"Populations in Kenya especially at risk include injecting drug users and people in prostitution, whose prevalence rates are estimated at 53 percent and 27 percent, respectively. [1]"
"Although Sengal is a very poor country, it has maintained a low HIV prevalence. With a 'concentrated' epidemic, the general population in Senegal has remained relatively free of AIDS, though vulnerable populations have significantly higher prevalence; among commercial sex workers, for example, prevalence is around 17 percent [1]"
That's like 10X higher than Thailand. IOW it represents the difference between wearing a condom & not wearing one. Or, to put it another way, when you bang one of those Africans with a condom, you might as well be doing a TG without one. It's the same risk. And those aren't even the worst countries in Africa for HIV.
Awesome Man
08-11-13, 06:10
Of course it makes sense to do Thai women in Thailand, and African women in Africa. But I like Thailand for a lot of reasons, and thee fact that I feel safe picking up girls in Thailand is one of them. And that beeing so easy and almodt without hassle is another one.
I don't get laid very often back home, so I'd like to try as many different cookies as possible.
An interesting point I would like to make is the fact that African ladies plying their trade in Pattaya are charging somewhat more for their services than are the African ladies in Bangkok. Pattaya being in the region of 2000b, the last time I asked some months back, not on my just returned trip, as I did not approach any black girls this time round. Weather or not one were to negotiate the price down is questionable. On my recent trip, the Pattaya Africans were somewhat doable, pretty, sexy and slim, I saw one punter with a black lady for several days. The girls had the look of being from Sudan, Kenyan region, by my judgement. I did not speak to them.
From what I saw from my two days in Bangkok, African ladies I saw were just dreadful, little wonder one is able to reduce them to 800b ST. I have mentioned before, it is preferable to do a trip to the African continent in my somewhat vast experience having been born and raised there. I certainly was privileged and had an awesome experience in hindsight, literally being schooled by the dark darlings, I have had many.
Those of you seeking to do black ladies in Thailand, I would suggest trying your luck with the current lot in Pattaya. The Bangkok girls are just awful, unless the pretty ones took a few nights off while I was there LOL. Put your negotiating skills into practice, perhaps the price will be more favourable in Pattaya.
The only BKK Africans I've seen personally or ever heard anyone refer to, in reading this & other forums since 2007, are those street walkers on lower sukhumvit near NEP. Do you pick them up there?I already mentioned I haven't done any black girls at all in BKK. Extremely rare for me to take a street walker at all, unless something amazing. I recall being very tempted by one outside my Hotel a few years back.
Do not trust statistics put forward by most organizations.It is a fact there is a high degree of HIV in Africa. That hits mostly the villages in the bushes, where there is no prostituion but can well happen there is a high degree of promiscuity, poor health conditions, poor economy and so on.
Lots of HIV is transmitted by blood from mother to child.
Bangkok is not necessarily providing the very best of black women. So I wonder why you choose Thailand to try them. If you were a black girl lover, then no problem.Well, said here many times. One might not be able to travel to Russia and if he wants to sample a Russian the only chance is to pick one available, if available, where he travels. Very true she might not be the best of her country pack in all terms. Being also th choice quite limited one gets what the market offers. He can then say he tested a Russian, or an African or whatever. But at the same token I don't think he can definetely say "have tried Russian", even if it sounds the same.
I tried a black in Macau's Rio, ticked the box but I the t think I experimented a Nigerian. Same when I sampled a Russian (claiming being Ugandan, maybe her parents were military advisors there, LOL) , certainly I can't say she represented Russian, or maybe she did, with the lousy service.
Had a Jamaican in Singapore, not priming for the hot service they are known of.
Could also just be the chemistry factor.
An interesting point I would like to make is the fact that African ladies plying their trade in Pattaya are charging somewhat more for their services than are the African ladies in Bangkok. The Bangkok girls are just awful, unless the pretty ones took a few nights off while I was there LOL. Put your negotiating skills into practice, perhaps the price will be more favourable in Pattaya.There are a couple of Africans looking nice, slim, and ideal. The majority cater for other standards, big booties, on the chubby side, large mammaries that can't afford to loose the support of the bra or they (the breast) will be on her knees. Not everyone's cup of tea, but surely somebody gets them (or they get some late night customer with beer googles not willing to go home alone even if sometime it could be a better choice) as otherwise they would not trade for long.
Same as the famous Elena of soi 7/1 (subway terrace) : she must have a market and business even if we see her there for long hours.
It is a fact there is a high degree of HIV in Africa. That hits mostly the villages in the bushes, where there is no prostituion but can well happen there is a high degree of promiscuity, poor health conditions, poor economy and so on.
Lots of HIV is transmitted by blood from mother to child.HIV rates were ridiculously high, over 70 percent in 2006, for female sex workers in Ethiopia:
http://www.aidstar-one.com/sites/default/files/day_1-3_quader.pdf
Hookers from Uganda have been reported as being in Pattaya:
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/28280/ugandan-prostitutes-rounded-up-in-pattaya/
HIV prevalence among female sex workers there was estimated at 35 percent in 2011:
http://www.avert.org/aids-uganda.htm
There are a couple of Africans looking nice, slim, and ideal. The majority cater for other standards, big booties, on the chubby side, large mammaries that can't afford to loose the support of the bra or they (the breast) will be on her knees. Not everyone's cup of tea, but surely somebody gets them (or they get some late night customer with beer googles not willing to go home alone even if sometime it could be a better choice) as otherwise they would not trade for long.You are right on this one. Came across a pair of large black women at a Frankfurt FKK few years ago. There is definitely a clientele for them.
Wolfie0066
08-15-13, 00:37
I'm headed to Pattaya and Phuket in October. My 5th trip to Thailand. I love Thai girls but I'd like to mix it up a little this time. Has anyone noticed any Indian, mixed race or generally dark skinned girls in any of the agogos or massage parlors. I've heard there's an Indian girl at Teen Dream. Is she still there?
Xplorer007
08-16-13, 09:55
I'm headed to Pattaya and Phuket in October. My 5th trip to Thailand. I love Thai girls but I'd like to mix it up a little this time. Has anyone noticed any Indian, mixed race or generally dark skinned girls in any of the agogos or massage parlors. I've heard there's an Indian girl at Teen Dream. Is she still there?I last visited Pattaya in June of this year there was a Indian girl working in a sheesha place in Arab street can't remember the name of the place 1500 short time and 3000 LT. Arab street and surroundings are worth a try you may find what you are looking for.
Good luck
Saw this Blonde WG sitting in front of Subway two days ago. I saw the infamous Elena some time ago and if my memory serves me right this lady does not look like her or maybe she does, I don't remember her that well. This woman told me she is from Ukraine and used another name but (not Elena). She offered her services for 1000b for FS and massage. I did not take her up and started to walk away so she asked me how much, I waved her off but know that you can negotiate with her. If you like this type of woman, go to Soi 7-1 and get her in between her servicing customers. Pic is not the best quality as I took this with my phone.Anybody can confirm that she is (or not) the infamous Elena. ? Judging by the picture, I will also skip the woman, unless she is prettier and younger.
Well, said here many times. One might not be able to travel to Russia and if he wants to sample a Russian the only chance is to pick one available, if available, where he travels. Very true she might not be the best of her country pack in all terms. Being also th choice quite limited one gets what the market offers. He can then say he tested a Russian, or an African or whatever. But at the same token I don't think he can definetely say "have tried Russian", even if it sounds the same.I don't think its very important which country label gets a attached to a girl. I don't have a bedpost notch for each country of the world, and girls often bullshit about where they come from. E. G. The Haitian claims to be Dom Rep. Another girl once met claims half Jamaican half American but who knows? Does it really matter much? Pick the best girl available regardless of nationality, unless its too dangerous to do so.
In all my years visiting Thailand I have never seen an Indian working girl. Sure, there have been many Indian looking girls but they are Thais from Isaan regions. There was one who claimed to be half Indian, but that was many years ago. And that is plausible because an Indian may have gotten some babies with a Thai WG. But look at it. Any good looking Indian WG makes more money in India than they would make in Thailand. And if there is one, it would be from very bottom of the pool. And that is the same case with all the other foreign sex workers. The good Europeans go to Germany, Netherlands etc. The dregs come to Thailand. Africans may be doing better, though. Hong Kong and Singapore is a much better destination for Indian WGs. But then I looked at some in Hong Kong. No thanks.
So if you want to taste the worst of the foreign working girls in BKK be my guest. It just tells what kind of monger you are.
I don't think its very important which country label gets a attached to a girl. I don't have a bedpost notch for each country of the world, and girls often bullshit about where they come from. E. G. The Haitian claims to be Dom Rep. Another girl once met claims half Jamaican half American but who knows? Does it really matter much? Pick the best girl available regardless of nationality, unless its too dangerous to do so.Might not be important but the opportunity to tick a box. There are some nationalities who have certain thrills or specialties.
Chinese are familiar for rimming, Ethiopian stay away from BJ, African have big bums, northern China girls are usually tall and slim, Thais can offer a GFE. Check IT Travel reports on "anal" section and his action in Russia: whilst not all Russian are like that, it is a fact it is hard to find elsewhere what IT Travel finds in there. Brazilian are easy going for anal, some even want it.
I agree, an Haitian will pretend being Dominican, but we talk about the same little island with a border in its middle. Two different economies is the main difference. Passing for Dominican maybe helps in getting better rates.
The thrill of mongering is not only in deeping one's dick into someone else pussy.
Otherwise we can all drill a hole in the ground and fuck the world.
So if you want to taste the worst of the foreign working girls in BKK be my guest.I think that tends to sum it up. Once you have done quality girls from various countries in Europe or wherever, the ones here that you see generally do not cause any interest at all, and I have no thought of going looking for them on purpose. I can wait till I am in a more ideal location to find nice Brazilian, Jamaican, Dom Rep, Cuban girls etc, wherever they might claim to come from.
The best quality girls here are going to be Thai, various mountain people girls, Laos, Chinese and Cambodian girls, unless you get lucky with a gorgeous non-P4P girl on holidays.
I suppose the guy could find Myanmar girls that look a bit like Indian. I haven't tried. There are plenty of Myanmar workers in Thailand especially on the islands or Krabi but not that many in P4P. Could ask at Soapies with a lot of girls like Nataree if they have any Myanmar girls that look a bit Indian.
I agree, an Haitian will pretend being Dominican, but we talk about the same little island with a border in its middle. Two different economies is the main difference. Passing for Dominican maybe helps in getting better rates.Generally good Dom Rep girls are much prettier than Haitian girls. Seems to be a different gene pool.
Wolfie0066
08-17-13, 05:08
No need to get judgmental guy.
So if you want to taste the worst of the foreign working girls in BKK be my guest. It just tells what kind of monger you are..
Hey guys,
I think I might be very helpful here regarding WG in Thailand. It all gets Down to what kind of girls you are searching for and how much are you willing to pay. I have been to Thailand five times always staying in Pattaya. 3 times in BKK and only once to Phuket. About African and South American girls they are so hard to find, seen like only four girls in my 5 times visit, so don't puch your luck if that's what you are looking for.
Most girls working in Thailand are either Thai, Russian, east Europe or girls from Uzbek, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Iran and others in the same area. Few from Belarus and Ukraine, although more expensive and not widely available but are the cleanest and most beautiful. I will mention where to find these kinds of girls in BKK, Phuket and Pattaya.
First Phuket with my little experience there if you don't want Thai girls only two clubs you can pick up girls from, seduction club and Hollywood club, seduction is mostly foreigners but care because many are just tourists enjoying the night and not there for work. In Hollywood every girl is a WG but unfortunately more and more Thai Than others.
BKK has two main clubs where you can find very beautiful WG from Russia, Ukraine and others, mainly shock 39 club and mix discotheque, if you are a smoker pick the room of the club which plays house music because the RNb room is a non smoker room, and you can easily pass from this room to the other and back to look around, I recommend mixx very much, if you are looking for Arab Moroccan or Iranian girls you can visit the Arab area there, every body knows it, Greece hotel has many Arab girls plus the girls all around in the street, if you ae into Thai girls with nice looks and style (few) you can go Insomnia which will have the best music among all also, but I don't really recommend Thai girls if this is your first Thai experience because usually they don't look that good in the morning.
Now lets end this with Pattaya, the number one rated sin city in the world, because every sexual experience is available along a street designed by the devil him self, but that's not the point, Pattaya is by far the best of all regarding every man thought, there you will find every type of girl from all the nationalities I mentioned above. Arabs in the Arab neighborhood, east European, Russians and others you will findin mixx club which is the best in Pattaya along with nice Thai girls also, or at least the best in Pattaya, also you must pay a visit to Limalima club just beside Mixx club for beautiful foreign girls.
I hope my post was helpful for all of you and will be glad to offer any answers I have to anybody with a question.
CorporateMalaya
09-03-13, 11:52
Hey guys,
I think I might be very helpful here regarding WG in Thailand. It all gets Down to what kind of girls you are searching for and how much are you willing to pay. I have been to Thailand five times always staying in Pattaya. 3 times in BKK and only once to Phuket. About African and South American girls they are so hard to find, seen like only four girls in my 5 times visit, so don't puch your luck if that's what you are looking for.
Most girls working in Thailand are either Thai, Russian, east Europe or girls from Uzbek, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Iran and others in the same area. Few from Belarus and Ukraine, although more expensive and not widely available but are the cleanest and most beautiful. I will mention where to find these kinds of girls in BKK, Phuket and Pattaya.
First Phuket with my little experience there if you don't want Thai girls only two clubs you can pick up girls from, seduction club and Hollywood club, seduction is mostly foreigners but care because many are just tourists enjoying the night and not there for work. In Hollywood every girl is a WG but unfortunately more and more Thai Than others.
BKK has two main clubs where you can find very beautiful WG from Russia, Ukraine and others, mainly shock 39 club and mix discotheque, if you are a smoker pick the room of the club which plays house music because the RNb room is a non smoker room, and you can easily pass from this room to the other and back to look around, I recommend mixx very much, if you are looking for Arab Moroccan or Iranian girls you can visit the Arab area there, every body knows it, Greece hotel has many Arab girls plus the girls all around in the street, if you ae into Thai girls with nice looks and style (few) you can go Insomnia which will have the best music among all also, but I don't really recommend Thai girls if this is your first Thai experience because usually they don't look that good in the morning.
Now lets end this with Pattaya, the number one rated sin city in the world, because every sexual experience is available along a street designed by the devil him self, but that's not the point, Pattaya is by far the best of all regarding every man thought, there you will find every type of girl from all the nationalities I mentioned above. Arabs in the Arab neighborhood, east European, Russians and others you will findin mixx club which is the best in Pattaya along with nice Thai girls also, or at least the best in Pattaya, also you must pay a visit to Limalima club just beside Mixx club for beautiful foreign girls.
I hope my post was helpful for all of you and will be glad to offer any answers I have to anybody with a question.Great job for a 2nd report, any news on prices, quality and your experience and success with them.
JetsonJenk
09-08-13, 20:20
Hi Gentlemen.
I am travelling to Bangkok in another 3 weeks on work and thought I would make the best of my first trip to the city. I have been put up at Ramada, and the initial reports suggest that it is a girl friendly hotel. Whew, lucky me esp since this is a company sponsored trip! I am travelling from India and I am aware of the "great reputation" that precedes me. :-D.
If you could suggest the places / joints from where I could pick up Middle Eastern women, or European and Russians, I would be grateful. Any tip on the average rate would be lovely!
Thanks!
Hi Gentlemen.
I am travelling to Bangkok in another 3 weeks on work and thought I would make the best of my first trip to the city. I have been put up at Ramada, and the initial reports suggest that it is a girl friendly hotel. Whew, lucky me esp since this is a company sponsored trip! I am travelling from India and I am aware of the "great reputation" that precedes me. :-D.
If you could suggest the places / joints from where I could pick up Middle Eastern women, or European and Russians, I would be grateful. Any tip on the average rate would be lovely!
Thanks!Maybe reading a few posts below will answer your posts.
Thanks for contributing to the reputation of your country, you are perfectly fit for that.
Hey guys,
Greece hotel has many Arab girls plus the girls all around in the street, if you ae into Thai girls with nice looks and style (few) you can go Insomnia which will have the best music among all also, but I don't really recommend Thai girls if this is your first Thai experience because usually they don't look that good in the morning.If you mean Grace hotel at Soi 3, yes it is Arab residing hotel. Might be owner one also from Arab. Basically street girls starts hanging from the gate of Grace Hotel and ends until Asoke intersection and a bit more. If you talk about Arab girls am really confused about that. Some of girls from Grace hotel gate, claims themselves from Russia, actually they are not. Most of them are from Central Asia. It is very impractical to find a WG in such said locality.
It is very impractical to find a WG in such said locality.Need correction of this line. It will "It is very impractical to find an Arab WG in such said locality"
From Soi 3 to Asoke, there are full of Middle Eastern ladies covered under cloths or some were not. Might be some times they are alone too. It does not make any sense that they are WG.
JetsonJenk
09-09-13, 16:23
Apologies, Mr Bionic Man. I wasn't aware that you would waste your time on your two lines spewing your caustic flavour. Sometimes if you find a query not worth commenting on, just do not comment. Pity you'd waste your time and whatever little of your motor functions you are left with to spew comments that are uncalled for. Let peace reign.
My sincerest apologies once again.
Maybe reading a few posts below will answer your posts.
Thanks for contributing to the reputation of your country, you are perfectly fit for that.
Apologies, Mr Bionic Man. I wasn't aware that you would waste your time on your two lines spewing your caustic flavour. Sometimes if you find a query not worth commenting on, just do not comment. Pity you'd waste your time and whatever little of your motor functions you are left with to spew comments that are uncalled for. Let peace reign.
My sincerest apologies once again.Just catches my eyes about the effort of Mr. JetsonJenk:
Report #344: Some quarries of you.
Report #342: A highlight about your quarries.
You may have more answers if you spend a little more effort.
Now, what you missed or messed!
Pointy Stick
09-10-13, 11:50
Hi Gentlemen.
I am travelling to Bangkok in another 3 weeks on work and thought I would make the best of my first trip to the city. I have been put up at Ramada, and the initial reports suggest that it is a girl friendly hotel. Whew, lucky me esp since this is a company sponsored trip! I am travelling from India and I am aware of the "great reputation" that precedes me. :-D.
If you could suggest the places / joints from where I could pick up Middle Eastern women, or European and Russians, I would be grateful. Any tip on the average rate would be lovely!
Thanks!Nasamte!
I recommend the places mentioned in the posts below.
Since you're Indian they will charge you at least twice the white European farang price.
Hope this helps!
AssLover945
09-10-13, 14:08
Hi Gentlemen.
I am travelling to Bangkok in another 3 weeks on work and thought I would make the best of my first trip to the city. I have been put up at Ramada, and the initial reports suggest that it is a girl friendly hotel. Whew, lucky me esp since this is a company sponsored trip! I am travelling from India and I am aware of the "great reputation" that precedes me. :-D.
If you could suggest the places / joints from where I could pick up Middle Eastern women, or European and Russians, I would be grateful. Any tip on the average rate would be lovely!
Thanks!Grace hotel, Rajah Hotel, mixx disco, CM2 Disco are prime pick up places for your kind man.
But prices can go high like atleast 3K for a shot. But it all boils down to your charm and the girl's will
JetsonJenk
09-10-13, 14:28
Thanks, Asslover. I don't mind the price if they're Arab or middle-eastern. My experience tells me that if you don't bargain and treat them right they'll give you more than you have bargained for. I am an asslover too, and love the middle-eastern asses.
Thanks, again!
Grace hotel, Rajah Hotel, mixx disco, CM2 Disco are prime pick up places for your kind man.
But prices can go high like atleast 3K for a shot. But it all boils down to your charm and the girl's will
Thanks, Asslover. I don't mind the price if they're Arab or middle-eastern. My experience tells me that if you don't bargain and treat them right they'll give you more than you have bargained for. I am an asslover too, and love the middle-eastern asses.
Thanks, again!Will you mind to read the post properly?
In the post #347, it was been mentioned about Russian WGs. Not the Middle Eastern.
If you are obsessed about Middle East girl try Dubai. Also flooded by outsiders, will be difficult to find local one, even a Palestinian or a Lebanese.
BKK! Try your hard luck.
JetsonJenk
09-11-13, 14:59
Dude, no offence I know what I read and what I wrote. The title therefore is middle-eastern bums and not a response to the Russian bit. If you think I messed up somewhere in my comprehension, my apologies. No offense to you or anyone, but please live and let live. Let's just monger.
Peace to you, brother.
Will you mind to read the post properly?
In the post #347, it was been mentioned about Russian WGs. Not the Middle Eastern.
If you are obsessed about Middle East girl try Dubai. Also flooded by outsiders, will be difficult to find local one, even a Palestinian or a Lebanese.
BKK! Try your hard luck.
Dude, no offence I know what I read and what I wrote. The title therefore is middle-eastern bums and not a response to the Russian bit. If you think I messed up somewhere in my comprehension, my apologies. No offense to you or anyone, but please live and let live. Let's just monger.
Peace to you, brother.Here is nothing to be offended.
But you are searching your things in wrong place. It is impractical to have a Middle East girl in BKK night bazaar. If they exist they can get more pricy market for them in their reach. If any one confirmed you about Arab girl, sure it will be end up messing with a girl from Central Asia.
Just a piece of word.
Global Surfer
09-12-13, 01:28
Thanks, Asslover. I don't mind the price if they're Arab or middle-eastern. My experience tells me that if you don't bargain and treat them right they'll give you more than you have bargained for. I am an asslover too, and love the middle-eastern asses.
Thanks, again!Try Arab restaurants between Sukhumvit and Grace Hotel. I can't remember the name but I think if you walk from Sukhumvit on Soi 3 towards Grace hotel, take first right and immediately on the corner is an Indian restaurant. You may find mostly Uzbek (sometimes pretending to be Arab there or rarely a genuine Arab there. If you walk further in the same street there is a very busy Arab restaurant at the corner on left. I met a Jordanian there.
Please note that I am not Arab and cannot speak Arabic. However, I think in the first one were Uzbek pretending to be Arab (guessed from their height and colour) and the Arab restaurant was probably genuine Arab.
Quality is not good and you can easily negotiate from BHT 1000 to BHT 2000.
However, for Arab girls probably your best option is Morocco. (probably Arab speaking North Africans)
JetsonJenk
09-12-13, 15:00
Point duly noted, Surfer. Thanks, much appreciated. I was told by a colleague in Singapore that Arab women can be found but rare. He mentioned that he had picked up a lady from Sukhumvit. I, of course, have no knowledge of the city and would mostly be a blind man groping my way through the streets. .
Try Arab restaurants between Sukhumvit and Grace Hotel. I can't remember the name but I think if you walk from Sukhumvit on Soi 3 towards Grace hotel, take first right and immediately on the corner is an Indian restaurant. You may find mostly Uzbek (sometimes pretending to be Arab there or rarely a genuine Arab there. If you walk further in the same street there is a very busy Arab restaurant at the corner on left. I met a Jordanian there.
Please note that I am not Arab and cannot speak Arabic. However, I think in the first one were Uzbek pretending to be Arab (guessed from their height and colour) and the Arab restaurant was probably genuine Arab.
Quality is not good and you can easily negotiate from BHT 1000 to BHT 2000.
However, for Arab girls probably your best option is Morocco. (probably Arab speaking North Africans)
Try Arab restaurants between Sukhumvit and Grace Hotel.Usually they have a pimp dressed in white and hehandles from one to 3 women, dressed in black. Sometime of different ages to cater to different needs, each one his own, we all know that
Better negotiate with the pimp in white, more effective as more used to discuss services and rates.
Global Surfer
09-13-13, 01:18
Usually they have a pimp dressed in white and hehandles from one to 3 women, dressed in black. Sometime of different ages to cater to different needs, each one his own, we all know that
Better negotiate with the pimp in white, more effective as more used to discuss services and rates.Thanks for information.
I never noticed pimp. The Jordanian came set on the table next to me and invited herself by crude eye contact.
Next time I came to Bangkok I will try the pimp.
Thanks for information.
I never noticed pimp. The Jordanian came set on the table next to me and invited herself by crude eye contact.
Next time I came to Bangkok I will try the pimp.If they exists or if they showed up for non Arabs.
Thanks for information.
I never noticed pimp. The Jordanian came set on the table next to me and invited herself by crude eye contact.
Next time I came to Bangkok I will try the pimp.You can freely talk to the pimp as, being male, he will share services descriptions with no shyness.
Hey guys,
I think I might be very helpful here regarding WG in Thailand. It all gets Down to what kind of girls you are searching for and how much are you willing to pay. I have been to Thailand five times always staying in Pattaya. 3 times in BKK and only once to Phuket. About African and South American girls they are so hard to find, seen like only four girls in my 5 times visit, so don't puch your luck if that's what you are looking for.
Most girls working in Thailand are either Thai, Russian, east Europe or girls from Uzbek, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Iran and others in the same area. Few from Belarus and Ukraine, although more expensive and not widely available but are the cleanest and most beautiful. I will mention where to find these kinds of girls in BKK, Phuket and Pattaya.
First Phuket with my little experience there if you don't want Thai girls only two clubs you can pick up girls from, seduction club and Hollywood club, seduction is mostly foreigners but care because many are just tourists enjoying the night and not there for work. In Hollywood every girl is a WG but unfortunately more and more Thai Than others...Excellent color and thorough review of the discos for foreign ladies. I apologize in advance for being off thread, but since you have extensive knowledge, would you mind if I asked which discos are best for Thai FLs? Bangkok, Pattaya & Phuket if you can.
Naked Gunz
09-15-13, 09:46
Hey guys,
About African and South American girls they are so hard to find, seen like only four girls in my 5 times visit, so don't puch your luck if that's what you are looking for.That's unusual statement, because in Pattaya, I see INCREASING amounts of Africans. I don't' know why they import the ugliest ones from Africa, because I have only wanted to be with one that I've seen on 2nd Road. It does seem that they will allow so many to roam Walking St. Before they're rounded up, put on Pattaya news and sent home.
I am in contact now with a Kenyan in LOS with huge tits that I plan on meeting next month.
Hi Gentlemen.
I am travelling to Bangkok in another 3 weeks on work and thought I would make the best of my first trip to the city. I have been put up at Ramada, and the initial reports suggest that it is a girl friendly hotel. Whew, lucky me esp since this is a company sponsored trip! I am travelling from India and I am aware of the "great reputation" that precedes me. :-D.
If you could suggest the places / joints from where I could pick up Middle Eastern women, or European and Russians, I would be grateful. Any tip on the average rate would be lovely!
Thanks!Hi,
I just visited these places a month back. You can try the Rajah Hotel and Grace Hotel. When you get here you can see a lot of women in the waiting area, a pimp would approach you and you can make a choice. Damage would be 2600 to 3100 Bhat for a single session including the room. Or you could try the Nana Disco for freelancers.
Hotman 666
09-28-13, 05:26
Hi,
I just visited these places a month back. You can try the Rajah Hotel and Grace Hotel. When you get here you can see a lot of women in the waiting area, a pimp would approach you and you can make a choice. Damage would be 2600 to 3100 Bhat for a single session including the room. Or you could try the Nana Disco for freelancers.Not perhaps the correct thread but, just out of interest, I came across two Iranian hookers on Beach Road Pattaya a few days ago.
One was rather "chunky" but the other was quite acceptable.
This was certainly a FIRST for me.
So, if you are "collecting flags" it could be worth a try.
Enjoy,
Hotman.
I came across two Iranian hookers on Beach Road Pattaya a few days ago.
Did you ask them their nationality?
And have you seen any African girls at Pattaya?
Hotman 666
09-30-13, 11:43
I came across two Iranian hookers on Beach Road Pattaya a few days ago.
Did you ask them their nationality?
And have you seen any African girls at Pattaya?
I saw the passport of the cutest of the two.
I have seen African hookers on Beach Road and Walking St. but in my opinion the quality was quite low.
A few quite reasonable African girls used to stay at a small bar that had rooms on 2nd Road just North of Soi 8 but I did not see them this visit.
I do not think that I have ever seen an African working girl that I would consider "stunning" in Pattaya.
Most of the ones that I have seen look older, well used and suffer from the after effects of one (or more) pregnancies.
I did have the pleasure of an encounter with a Ruwandan "civilian" a few years ago in Pattaya. She was definitely rather cute and had a magnificent body.
Hotman.
I saw the passport of the cutest of the two.
I have seen African hookers on Beach Road and Walking St. But in my opinion the quality was quite low.
A few quite reasonable African girls used to stay at a small bar that had rooms on 2nd Road just North of Soi 8 but I did not see them this visit.
I do not think that I have ever seen an African working girl that I would consider "stunning" in Pattaya.
Most of the ones that I have seen look older, well used and suffer from the after effects of one (or more) pregnancies.
I did have the pleasure of an encounter with a Ruwandan "civilian" a few years ago in Pattaya. She was definitely rather cute and had a magnificent body.
Hotman.Thank you for your report.
I didn't think that Iranian hookers were in Pattaya.
I'll find African in Bangkok first.
Hotman 666
10-01-13, 09:15
Thank you for your report.
I didn't think that Iranian hookers were in Pattaya.
I'll find African in Bangkok first.Bangkokmp,
These two Iranians were the first that I had seen in Pattaya.
You will find quite a few Africans working in BKK along Sukhumvit Road but in my experience they have not been the best looking African girls that I have seen.
They will claim to be from many different African countries but most that I have met are actually Nigerian.
Best of luck with your research and I am sure that board members would appreciate hearing about your experiences.
Enjoy,
Hotman.
Evil Penivel
10-01-13, 09:34
I saw the passport of the cutest of the two.
I have seen African hookers on Beach Road and Walking St. But in my opinion the quality was quite low.
A few quite reasonable African girls used to stay at a small bar that had rooms on 2nd Road just North of Soi 8 but I did not see them this visit.If you're going in pursuit of African women in Pattaya, your name better be St. George because you'll be dealing with dragons.
Also, make damn sure she leaves some sort of I'd at the reception and you lock all your valuables away in your in-safe. Never leave a drink unattended if you have an African hooker in your room or you may wake up 12 hours later with a tremendous headache and all your possessions missing. There have been a lot of very negative reports from guys who have braved encounters with African streetwalkers in Pattaya.
Another thing to be aware of is that virtually all of the sex workers in Pattaya who aren't Asian or African come from one of the Soviet successor states. They may say they come from Iran or Turkey or Morocco, but they actually come from Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan. They lie about their countries of origin because they think it gives them more appeal and also helps hide them better if a complaint is made to the police.
Evil
Naked Gunz
10-01-13, 14:12
but they actually come from Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan.
EvilThey even have a documentary on tv now showing how Thai police are trying to bust Uzbek human traffic rings in LOS. Their homebase is Grace hotel.
They even have a documentary on tv now showing how Thai police are trying to bust Uzbek human traffic rings in LOS. Their homebase is Grace hotel.The Grace is their working base, most of them have accomodation in Soi 1 where you can be lucky to pick up one.
They even have a documentary on tv now showing how Thai police are trying to bust Uzbek human traffic rings in LOS. Their homebase is Grace hotel.Hi isn't that documentary 2 years old? There is a concern yes. Have there been recent events unfolding? Cheers
Legionnaire
11-18-13, 18:02
Just to change. But they do not have the style of Thai girls!
The photo is of a nice girl from Tanzania, but I think Uganda, last year known in WS.
Naked Gunz
11-19-13, 01:35
Hi isn't that documentary 2 years old? There is a concern yes. Have there been recent events unfolding? CheersIt looked recent enough to me. I got the impression that will be an ongoing investigation because you have priests, westerners trying to save the world always. I don't like cheap looking Eastern Europe women personally. Always way too much makeup, smoking, plump bodies, sh*tty service and personality. But some guys like the dirty look.
Just to change. But they do not have the style of Thai girls!
The photo is of a nice girl from Tanzania, but I think Uganda, last year known in WS.Did you pick her up on sukhumvit near soi5?
Legionnaire
11-20-13, 10:33
Did you pick her up on sukhumvit near soi5?No, I picked her in WS (walking street, Pattaya), there is one open bar where same of these African queen stay, but also aroud the beach road, or in the disco near the pier. Usually they try to claim that most indigenous.
Legionnaire
11-20-13, 19:01
Just to change 2. This time, a queen of the steppe, from Moscow to Pattaya. Very friendly. Spasibo.
There are quite a few CIS chicks roaming on Walking street. Never tried to engage with them but sure the quality is poor compared to what you would find elsewhere. Nevertheless, I did come across one beauty in a sheesha bar and observing from a distance, men would engage with her but would soon leave, perhaps because of the straight faced attitude most of CIS have. But there could be some hidden gems, like the one you encountered. Where did you find her?
Just to change 2. This time, a queen of the steppe, from Moscow to Pattaya. Very friendly. Spasibo.
Legionnaire
11-23-13, 23:06
There are quite a few CIS chicks roaming on Walking street. Never tried to engage with them but sure the quality is poor compared to what you would find elsewhere. Nevertheless, I did come across one beauty in a sheesha bar and observing from a distance, men would engage with her but would soon leave, perhaps because of the straight faced attitude most of CIS have. But there could be some hidden gems, like the one you encountered. Where did you find her?I was intrigued to find her at night sitting on a bench in the beach road and in fact I asked her if she was there for."that"! Unlike the average of his countrymen (those in the pro version, but other one that I remember friendly, desirous of company, preferably drowned in alcohol) , as rightly you said above, was placed in a nice and really cute and accomplice, and then I was glad to ask her to come with me!
Tried to PM you for digits of this lady is you don't mind. Looks like your PM facility is not activated. Or else could you indicate where in beach road you found her?
I was intrigued to find her at night sitting on a bench in the beach road and in fact I asked her if she was there for."that"! Unlike the average of his countrymen (those in the pro version, but other one that I remember friendly, desirous of company, preferably drowned in alcohol) , as rightly you said above, was placed in a nice and really cute and accomplice, and then I was glad to ask her to come with me!
Tried to PM you for digits of this lady is you don't mind. Looks like your PM facility is not activated. Or else could you indicate where in beach road you found her?The guy does not have PM facility for the simple reason he hasn't paid the subscription.
As they say in Thailand "no money, no honey"
Naked Gunz
11-24-13, 15:35
Just to change 2. This time, a queen of the steppe, from Moscow to Pattaya. Very friendly. Spasibo.Wow! She looks like she worked in Siberian salt mines. Cute but the body of a prizefighter. This woman could really hurt you if pissed off. How was the ride?
The only CIS I've had in last few years was a stunner in DXB Broadway hotel that moved so vigorously under me I shot my load fairly quickly. I'm sure that was the plan. Then she proudly announced that she was 17 yo! Gulp!
Just to change 2. This time, a queen of the steppe, from Moscow to Pattaya. Very friendly. Spasibo.It is "SpasibA". Not with "o".
Legionnaire
11-24-13, 19:09
It is "SpasibA". Not with "o".Yes, I know like this, but google trasl. Tell me: "&1089; &1087; &1072; &1089; &1080; &1073; &1086;" and "spasibo".
Spasiba!
Legionnaire
11-24-13, 19:19
Wow! She looks like she worked in Siberian salt mines. Cute but the body of a prizefighter. This woman could really hurt you if pissed off. How was the ride?
The only CIS I've had in last few years was a stunner in DXB Broadway hotel that moved so vigorously under me I shot my load fairly quickly. I'm sure that was the plan. Then she proudly announced that she was 17 yo! Gulp!Sometimes I like to try the female wild boar style too! Double gulp!
Member #4410
11-24-13, 19:36
It is "SpasibA". Not with "o".He wrote it correctly. It is written spasibo.
If you want to be pedantic, first check your facts. In the Russian language a soft "o" is pronounced as an "a".
A famous example is the word "avtomobil" (car) which is pronounced "avtamabil".
Regards,
Ko
Legionnaire
11-24-13, 19:46
Tried to PM you for digits of this lady is you don't mind. Looks like your PM facility is not activated. Or else could you indicate where in beach road you found her?Between P. Klang and Soi 6, but only for two days (night). After never look her. I remember the name, Natalie.
Legionnaire
11-24-13, 19:55
Dear Member #2635 since you're a fan of the genre, one last pic of Natalie.
Legionnaire
11-24-13, 19:59
The guy does not have PM facility for the simple reason he hasn't paid the subscription.
As they say in Thailand "no money, no honey"For this I am little bit hard: "no honey, no money".
Spasiba, Spasibo, Tomato, Tometo. I like that girl (meet my standard).
Thanks for the pictures, Legionnaire.
Thanks for the pic mate. I will be in Pattaya in December for a week. With a bit of luck, may come across Natalie. God, I always fall for the CIS, even in Thailand!
Dear Member #2635 since you're a fan of the genre, one last pic of Natalie.
Legionnaire
11-26-13, 19:55
Thanks for the pic mate. I will be in Pattaya in December for a week. With a bit of luck, may come across Natalie. God, I always fall for the CIS, even in Thailand!Only one week? I lost her phone num. But I have dropped N. In the Soi with traffic light opposit Big C (ex Carrefour) beetwen 9 Carat Condo and Nirun. She stands with some friends. Maybe you can meet also the friends.
Good luck.
It still gives me a tremendous buzz seeing honey on the sidewalk all be that these are African. Was approached by one of the Gambians who sat down next to me whilst having a beer, Sukhamvit Road, only to be chased off by the Thai vendor lady. I did not partake as I get cheap, cheap in Africa. Fellas, I do not know why I'm afflicted by roadside honey for sale but it surely is the thrill of my life life. I guess growing up in Africa will do that to you.
I took a few photos, of course by now the camera was inebriated, hence the poor quality, but you get the idea.
PleasureOfLove
12-24-13, 14:49
Hi friends,
What's the best time of the year to visit Thailand for. Great fuck. Also please PM me all your suggestion and places for a great experience. Please let me know. CIS contact that you my want to share.
Thanks
Wolvenvacht
12-24-13, 17:57
Hi friends,
What's the best time of the year to visit Thailand for. Great fuck. Also please PM me all your suggestion and places for a great experience. Please let me know. CIS contact that you my want to share.
ThanksThe whole year is perfect for meeting friendly Thai ladies. There is no "best" time.
I'm going to Bangkok next week and I'll find African or CIS girls around Nana station.
Will I find them easily? Or nobody recommend come to Bangkok during a state of emergency?
So. Where are all the Russian / East European girls? Are they any good; meaning are they GFE with nice attitudes?
I'm going to Bangkok next week and I'll find African or CIS girls around Nana station.
Will I find them easily? Or nobody recommend come to Bangkok during a state of emergency?Saw over 20 African girls a night this week. Only 2 were stunning. Pattaya is booming. Vets will be fine in BKK.
Newbies can detour to Pattaya. Roughly 20 / Africans a night in Pattaya also. The African spinners were popular.
Hi friends,
What's the best time of the year to visit Thailand for. Great fuck. Also please PM me all your suggestion and places for a great experience. Please let me know. CIS contact that you my want to share.
ThanksWeather wise now and of course when the dollar and Euro is strong against the baht.
Saw over 20 African girls a night this week. Only 2 were stunning. Pattaya is booming. Vets will be fine in BKK.
Newbies can detour to Pattaya. Roughly 20 / Africans a night in Pattaya also. The African spinners were popular.If I find African, I'll report here with pics.
Thank you
I was walking from Soi 3 to 15 2 times on Tuesday around 10pm.
However, I didn't find African girls, but there are lots of black guys.
2 cis girls sitting down out of subway.
Western787
02-06-14, 17:43
I was walking from Soi 3 to 15 2 times on Tuesday around 10pm.
However, I didn't find African girls, but there are lots of black guys.
2 cis girls sitting down out of subway.They mostly show up between 1 AM and 3 AM and often hang between Soi 3 and Soi 7 at the mobile bars, particuarly ones with little if any lighting
Member #4263
02-13-14, 17:45
May I kindly know a sure place to meet some Khmer, Chinese and Filipina girls in BKK?
I'll be staying in Nana, Sukhumvit.
Khmer = Cambodian for those who don't know. Ofc, I won't be upset if I don't find any since I'm here for the hot Thais.
Maybe Annie's is a good place?
Crocodilexp
02-13-14, 19:42
May I kindly know a sure place to meet some Khmer, Chinese and Filipina girls in BKK?
I'll be staying in Nana, Sukhumvit.
Khmer = Cambodian for those who don't know. Ofc, I won't be upset if I don't find any since I'm here for the hot Thais.
Maybe Annie's is a good place?Khmer. Anywhere you'd find Thai girls (start on Sukhumwit, I guess). Look for girls from southern Isan provinces, like Buri Ram, Surin, Si Saket. Shouldn't be difficult, given that most working girls are from Isan. Many people from that region are ethnic Khmer, speaking Khmer language at home and having the same looks. Though they're likely Thai citizens.
Chinese. There are some PRC women around Broadway hotel in Yaowarat and Wong Wian 22 in the same area. Be warned, it's a Thai-oriented scene, not Farang friendly and service is atrocious. On the positive side, you can get a short time for 500 baht or so. If you want to spend 10x as much and get far better service potentially from Thai-Chinese girls, look at upper end massage parlors on Rachada (e. G. Poseidon) or G-Clubs.
Filipina. No specific place. They mostly come to do other work (like teaching). No good reason for Filipina prostitutes to work in Thailand. They'd be illegal, not get paid much more than back home, and have nothing to offer over Thais (looks are similar, they're not sought after by Thai guys like the Chinese or Russians). I did snatch a half-Thai half-PI freelancer on Sukhumwit Soi 3 once. But if you want to reliably find a Filipina in Thailand, better look on online dating sites, or just book a flight to AC, they're cheap!
No such thing as a sure place for illegal foreign workers. Massage parlors or bars normally won't hire foreign women. But no problem finding ethnic Khmer who are Thai citizens, or Thai Chinese (more difficult since they're usually middle / upper class).
Wolvenvacht
02-13-14, 20:17
May I kindly know a sure place to meet some Khmer, Chinese and Filipina girls in BKK?
I'll be staying in Nana, Sukhumvit.
Khmer = Cambodian for those who don't know. Ofc, I won't be upset if I don't find any since I'm here for the hot Thais.
Maybe Annie's is a good place?If I remember well, non-Thai girls cannot work legally in massage parlors and agogo clubs.
NeverJerkOff
02-26-14, 05:41
What are the best disco's to find a Russian stunner and are they ok with taking money in the morning like a Thai girl?
Western787
02-26-14, 06:54
If I remember well, non-Thai girls cannot work legally in massage parlors and agogo clubs.Well they can definitely work in bars. Example at least two cute Vietnamese girls work in STRIKERS (Pool Bar) on Soil 4. Now they happen to be Coyotes as far as I can tell, but are purportedly the country legally on special visas.
Western787
02-26-14, 07:22
What are the best disco's to find a Russian stunner and are they ok with taking money in the morning like a Thai girl?Stunners? LOL, Try Grace Hotel on Soi 3 The Russian scene is very problematic. Note there is a middle age blonde that hangs at Subway on Soil 7/1 late night. You might also catch a few Russians and their pimps at Climax under the Ambassador Hotel on Soi 11.
Global Surfer
02-28-14, 01:22
What are the best disco's to find a Russian stunner and are they ok with taking money in the morning like a Thai girl?Most Russians are actually Central Asians.
In addition to what Wester787 has told you try.
CM2 in Novotel.
Rajah Hotel Soi 4 just after Nana Plaza. You will get one pop form 2500-3000 BHT. Quality is good service so so.
Most girls claiming to be Arabs on soi 4 are actually Uzbek.
Please note that my information is 08 months old
Most Russians are actually Central Asians.
In addition to what Wester787 has told you try.
CM2 in Novotel.
Rajah Hotel Soi 4 just after Nana Plaza. You will get one pop form 2500-3000 BHT. Quality is good service so so.
Most girls claiming to be Arabs on soi 4 are actually Uzbek.
Please note that my information is 08 months oldIIRC, CM2 is now closed.
What are the best disco's to find a Russian stunner and are they ok with taking money in the morning like a Thai girl?Your best bet is Mixx Discotheque in the Hotel Intercontinental if you don't mind staying up late. I don't have enough experience with women from the FSU in Thailand to answer the second part. At Mixx, I'd suspect the majority would be OK with payment in the morning. At a place like Rajah, which is more of a *****house and short time option, I'd suspect not.
About Phordphan's post, I read that CM2 may open after renovation under a different name. Does anyone know anything about that? I'm going to be camped out for about a month this year in a hotel a couple of blocks from there.
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Global Surfer
03-08-14, 00:25
3-4 years ago CM2 was charging ludicrous entry fee and use to be full. Mostly WGs were Central Asians, a few Russians, Turkish and Africans. Going rate was 4-6K occasionally asking for 10K. Last year CM2 was deserted with only 3-40 people including 7-8 Uzbek WGs.
I understand most clients were local Thais, Arabs and South Asians who love Russians. I think clients are still there along with loads of money but why CM2 died? Is it competition?
Boeing 787
04-16-14, 18:06
This is the famous Elena, the Syberian freelancer of the subways in Soi 7/1, I met her at around 05PM, in January, I'm agree for a ST at 1000 THB, we going to her room at the Rajah hotel. Good service, GFE, shower first then CBJ and fucking in some positions (cowgirl, missionary and finish in doggystyle) she's not a clock watcher, after fucking we talking a lot, she claimed that she is 33 why.
Member #4387
04-17-14, 03:39
This is the famous Elena, the Syberian freelancer of the subways in Soi 7/1, I met her at around 05PM, in January, I'm agree for a ST at 1000 THB, we going to her room at the Rajah hotel. Good service, GFE, shower first then CBJ and fucking in some positions (cowgirl, missionary and finish in doggystyle) she's not a clock watcher, after fucking we talking a lot, she claimed that she is 33 why.Congrats as you took one for the team.
This is the famous Elena, the Syberian freelancer of the subways in Soi 7/1, I met her at around 05PM, in January, I'm agree for a ST at 1000 THB, we going to her room at the Rajah hotel.I add my congratulations for the report kind of much awaited. I was always puzzled but not confident on CSI performances.
Your experience seems positive, all in all. Pity for the CBJ which is an off for me.
I am pretty sure your report will increase her customer panel.
Western787
04-17-14, 07:21
3-4 years ago CM2 was charging ludicrous entry fee and use to be full. Mostly WGs were Central Asians, a few Russians, Turkish and Africans. Going rate was 4-6K occasionally asking for 10K. Last year CM2 was deserted with only 3-40 people including 7-8 Uzbek WGs.
Take a look at this documentary on Uzbekian sex trafficking (specifically at 8:54) and its no wonder the club lost business.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1nRKU6ug9M
Tony Hoeprano
04-17-14, 10:07
This is the famous Elena, the Syberian freelancer of the subways in Soi 7/1, I met her at around 05PM, in January, I'm agree for a ST at 1000 THB, we going to her room at the Rajah hotel. Good service, GFE, shower first then CBJ and fucking in some positions (cowgirl, missionary and finish in doggystyle) she's not a clock watcher, after fucking we talking a lot, she claimed that she is 33 why.In the USA she would be working in a Subway as a professional sandwich maker. In Thailand, she sits in front of Subway working as a professional cock sucker. God I love Thailand!
I met Yana or Lana who is sitting in front of subway in February.
The cost was B1000 for s / t. She took me short time hotel where it takes 30 sec. From subway. Room rate was B350.
So you need B1000 + B350 with condom.
She was nice, I recommend her.
Superman8899
04-17-14, 17:47
I met Yana or Lana who is sitting in front of subway in February.
The cost was B1000 for s / t. She took me short time hotel where it takes 30 sec. From subway. Room rate was B350.
So you need B1000 + B350 with condom.
She was nice, I recommend her.Mind to share? Pm me please.
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04-17-14, 18:31
Take a look at this documentary on Uzbekian sex trafficking (specifically at 8:54) and its no wonder the club lost business. :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1nRKU6ug9MThat documentary is already quite some years old. It does not seem that the actions depicted in this documentary have had any lasting effect.
I always imagined her to be 50lbs heavier and 12 years older. The price is right and I can get it up for her. Maybe ill try it to check off the "fucked it" list.
This is the famous Elena, the Syberian freelancer of the subways in Soi 7/1, I met her at around 05PM, in January, I'm agree for a ST at 1000 THB, we going to her room at the Rajah hotel. Good service, GFE, shower first then CBJ and fucking in some positions (cowgirl, missionary and finish in doggystyle) she's not a clock watcher, after fucking we talking a lot, she claimed that she is 33 why.
Global Surfer
04-18-14, 01:19
Take a look at this documentary on Uzbekian sex trafficking (specifically at 8:54) and its no wonder the club lost business. :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1nRKU6ug9MThanks for the information.
Any idea how many of them are really forced?
Western787
04-18-14, 09:55
Thanks for the information.
Any idea how many of them are really forced?One might ask. They make an entire documentary about THAT?
"Sex trafficking:" (or often used interchangeable with the term "sex slavery") does occur in certain case in certain locales throughout the world, but I am convinced after years at looking at these ginned up numbers they are at least 99% exaggerated.
However victimization is a very profitable business for the NGO's and "rescue industry"
The documentary claims 1. 5 million women worldwide are "trafficked" and / or are sex slaves, half in southeast asia, and many in Bangkok, so are they now saying 100, 000? 350, 000? Women are sex slaves in Bangkok? They can never support these claims. Yes, sex slavery does exist, but they had to broaden the definition in recent years to even make the numbers 1% true, now basically saying even 18 and over cannot give valid consent to engage in prostitution. a
No doubt this ONE Uzbekian girl was coerced or forced or threatened, and I am not surprised "russians" are involved somehow, but beyond that, the entire issue of "sex trafficking" has for years been utlizing made up stats created out of thin air (usually NGO created) and the Western mainstream media just reports them without questioning. For example in the USA, the FBI produced "statistics" on women trafficked into america use an amzing presumption - that any woman who arrives from anywhwer in Asia (example Korea) and is within 6 months working in the AMP bnusiness is presumed to be doing so aginast her will. Yes, total BS but that's how they produce the numbers, just use rediculous assumptions.
Another example (expect some fake numbers for the upcomig Brazil World cup in a few month) is the repetitiveclaims of trafficked women expected to be brought into the World Cup (soccer) and Super bowl (NFL football) each year they happen, Every single time the stats have proven to be total BS, and even the (politically correct) NFL all but admitted recently they were total BS, stats usually claiming 60, 000 "trafficked" women were due to arrive at Superbowl venues, yet they cannot never seem to find any "victims" except for an occassional 17 year old white trash girl brought in by a boyfriend. Its absolutely amazing how nonsensical these numbers are, yet the MSM each year dutifully reports the impending disaster.
One might ask. They make an entire documentary about THAT?
"Sex trafficking:" (or often used interchangeable with the term "sex slavery") does occur in certain case in certain locales throughout the world, but I am convinced after years at looking at these ginned up numbers they are at least 99% exaggerated.Here in Nepal, trafficking is a huge issue. Despite the horrors trafficking creates, the aid community commoditizes both the women and the industry in order to generate funding streams. I know a few genuine individuals working on the issue but unlike most in the anti-trafficking community, they are dead against using the terms interchangeably. One argues that "sex trafficking" also encompasses voluntary sex work, while slavery or forced sex work is another matter altogether. Eg, Plenty of providers willingly enter the industry, but have to be smuggled or trafficked over boarders. He also argues that co-mingling of these all these terms helps to create roadblocks to addressing issues that are mulch-faceted while at the same time provide bold declarations on the I / NGO community's part that tug at heart strings and pull in the Benjamins.
All of this supports your arguments to a certain extent. The numbers aren't as exaggerated as you think, but definitely are not painting the picture in an even, rational manner. What's more, the numbers are geographically uneven. The percentages are much higher in areas like South Asia, virtually close to 1% in areas like Bangkok, Singapore, etc.
A dialogue from an old movie I like involves a guy making an argument that there's just no way there are enough psychos and perverts around to account for all these missing persons in the US. So, the logical next step is to consider alien abduction or people slipping into time warps. Much the same for all this sensationalist media around trafficking. There's plenty going on, but how come so few non-journalists ever see it? There just aren't enough psychos around to account for these numbers.
Western787
04-25-14, 08:06
here in nepal, trafficking is a huge issue. despite the horrors trafficking creates, the aid community commoditizes both the women and the industry in order to generate funding streams. i know a few genuine individuals working on the issue but unlike most in the anti-trafficking community, they are dead against using the terms interchangeably. one argues that "sex trafficking" also encompasses voluntary sex work, while slavery or forced sex work is another matter altogether. eg, plenty of providers willingly enter the industry, but have to be smuggled or trafficked over boarders. he also argues that co-mingling of these all these terms helps to create roadblocks to addressing issues that are mulch-faceted while at the same time provide bold declarations on the i / ngo community's part that tug at heart strings and pull in the benjamins.
all of this supports your arguments to a certain extent. the numbers aren't as exaggerated as you think, but definitely are not painting the picture in an even, rational manner. what's more, the numbers are geographically uneven. the percentages are much higher in areas like south asia, virtually close to 1% in areas like bangkok, singapore, etc.
a dialogue from an old movie i like involves a guy making an argument that there's just no way there are enough psychos and perverts around to account for all these missing persons in the us. so, the logical next step is to consider alien abduction or people slipping into time warps. much the same for all this sensationalist media around trafficking. there's plenty going on, but how come so few non-journalists ever see it? there just aren't enough psychos around to account for these numbers.i've followed the sex trafficking" hysteria for a probably a decade, and i can assure you based upon the totality of the evidence. its 99% bs. now that said, to the extent it does exist, the perpretrators should be put in jail.
now i happen to see this link recentlk so i will post, but its consistent from what i found over years trying to substantiate these often wild claims the ngo's and government bureacrats are always making.
(the frauds and distortions in this area are incredible, and the link below links into some of the evidence, and i posted one atlanat journal constitution story in its entirely to give you an idea.
shttp://sextraffickingtruths.********.com/
trafficking victims fall through cracks of programs built on guesses, distortions.
by willoughby mariano.
the atlanta journal-constitution.
an atlanta police officer took the teen to the station because she looked so young. she was trembling when he found her. she wasn't wearing much.
the girl told investigators she was from arkansas and her journey to the streets of atlanta began when she climbed into the car of a relative's boyfriend. mariece sims and another man drove her to a texas hotel room and raped her, she said.
they left for mississippi, where sims told her to make money by having sex with men at a truck stop, court records said. in atlanta, he told her to do it again. he hit the girl when she did not make enough or tried to escape.
in the nine years since this girl walked the streets, the public has been told over and over again that hundreds of girls in metro atlanta meet her same fate every night. it's why this area is notorious as one of the nation's worst [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) hubs.
that reputation ignited a decade of efforts against what is described as modern-day slavery. now it is cause seeélèbre. nonprofits, religious groups and celebrities have joined the crusade, and politicians are pouring millions of tax dollars into the fight.
but an investigation by the atlanta journal-constitution found that the initiatives are based on facts and figures that, while preached as gospel and enshrined in legislation, are guesses or distortions. even the widespread belief that atlanta is one of the nation's child exploitation capitals stands on shaky ground. in this information vacuum, government officials have created programs that promise to find and help victims, but too often don't.
the ajc found:
• agencies have failed to keep accurate information that could tell them whether taxpayer-funded initiatives have been effective. participants in a $1 million program did not record basic information such as why a victim was in the system.
• state-backed attempts to track trafficking trends were not designed to be scientific, and national estimates are widely discredited.
• there is little proof that initiatives bring a significant percentage of traffickers to justice. special sweeps by local and federal task forces have turned up few exploiters. clients of a state program to combat the commercial sexual exploitation of children cooperated in only four convictions in its first two years.
• the program's clients struggle under its care. one-third of girls it took in during its first two years returned to prostitution, some coaxed back by their pimps. more than half of those placed in safe homes in fiscal year 2011 ran away.
despite the flaws, trafficking opponents have made some significant strides, and each rescued child is a victory.
'atlanta and georgia really are in the forefront of the usa, ' said kaffie mccullough, deputy director of youthspark, a fulton county juvenile justice nonprofit that fights child sex trafficking.
the legal system now takes the crime seriously. the legislature passed tough laws, and georgia established a statewide system to help girls who are victims of commercial sexual exploitation, noted former fulton juvenile court judge nina hickson, who is credited with starting atlanta's movement.
'i'm not totally saying these have all been successes. there have been disappointments. but a lot of good work is being done by a lot of good people, ' said hickson.
they face long odds, hickson and others said. programs close within years because funding dries up. inexperienced decision makers ignore the advice of front-line workers. victims dodge police by calling their pimps their 'boyfriends' and are beaten when they try to leave.
yet independent experts and federal authorities say that problems here and in other communities run deeper. poor accountability and bad data hobble the effort.
david finkelhor, director of the university of new hampshire's crimes against children research center, cautions against using any of the estimates to make policy.
'the data are very poor, and are not really to be relied upon for any conclusion, ' he said.
'facts' really estimates.
atlanta's anti-trafficking movement coalesced around the image of a 10-year-old girl, her ankles in shackles. it was november 2000, and the runaway was in juvenile court accused of prostitution. she was being kept in detention because there was nowhere else for her to go.
a series of stories in the ajc described how she and other girls sat in jail while their adult pimps went free. the problem was dire, and child advocates asked the justice department for money.
nationally 'an estimated 300, 000 victimized children' were 'living on the streets, ' the juvenile justice fund, now known as youthspark, said in an application for federal funds.
over the years, trafficking activists have repeated this and other grim statistics to decision-makers and before ballrooms full of potential donors and volunteers.
in 2005, the fbi added atlanta to its list of 14 field offices with the highest incidence of child prostitution or trafficking. an fbi official testifying in washington, d. c. cited law enforcement intelligence as well as information from the national center for missing & exploited children.
a study commissioned by a local anti-trafficking campaign came up with another bleak figure. research firm the schapiro group reported that 251 **** girls were being trafficked in georgia in august 2007. researchers cautioned, though, that the actual count could be closer to 400.
the governor's office for children and families agreed to take over funding for the research. from 2009 through this spring, it paid the schapiro group nearly $245, 000 to produce a regular count, which varied between 200 and 500. the results appeared on the agency's website.
now these alarming numbers appear in pamphlets, recent state legislation, and even on an anti-trafficking-themed tote bag passed out at a recent forum.
'240 girls were trafficked in georgia yesterday, ' the bag warns.
but a detailed look at the numbers shows that the most widely-used facts and figures are crude estimates, unsubstantiated, or inaccurate.
an fbi spokesman declined to explain why atlanta is a top trafficking city.
atlanta's size and location may well mean the metro area plays a big role in the trade, experts said. but while the fbi official said information from the national center for missing & exploited children helped the fbi develop its list, a center spokeswoman said it does not issue rankings.
in the absence of hard numbers, news articles and advocacy groups have claimed the title of the nation's [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) capital for wichita, kan, toledo, ohio, and baton rouge, la.
some widely-used 'facts' about the scope of trafficking misinterpret actual estimates.
for instance, the claim that 300, 000 minors are victims of commercial, sexual exploitation in the usa misquotes a 2001 estimate by university of pennsylvania researchers.
their report said that on the high side, these children are at risk – not actual victims. this includes runaways, children living in public housing and female gang members. critics warn the estimate may double-count kids who are part of multiple risk groups.
the study's authors emphasized they did not conduct a head count, and a better estimate would require more research.
other estimates of usa child victims range from fewer than 2, 000 to more than 2 million. the gap is so wide the numbers mean next to nothing.
'somewhere between there is the truth, but we don't know where, ' said mary a. finn, a professor at georgia state university and lead author of a report evaluating a major atlanta anti-trafficking effort.
figures on the trade's profitability and victims' average age have similar problems, yet officials continue to use them.
'they gain a life of their own, ' said ronald weitzer, a george washington university professor and expert on sex trafficking. 'they're repeated, recited and reproduced by the media and commentators and pretty soon become conventional wisdom, although the claims are way beyond what is warranted. '
as for the governor's office for children and families findings on child exploitation, scholars say they are fundamentally flawed. basic rules of research require that findings be verifiable and replicable.
these results aren't. the schapiro group released some, but not all, of its methodology to the ajc, saying it was proprietary.
the firm estimated the number of victims by surfing ads on the website craigslist, driving through high-prostitution neighborhoods, calling escort services and sitting in hotel lobbies counting what its observers think are **** call girls.
it multiplies that count by 0. 38. firm president beth schapiro said that's because her company's research showed that, conservatively, observers accurately guess a female in a sexually suggestive photo is **** about 38 percent of the time.
these reports are a waste of taxpayer money, weitzer said. the methodology is a guessing game.
'if i showed that report to anyone here in my department, they would laugh, ' he said.
numbers have power.
yet these numbers have incredible power. the schapiro group's count transformed child sex trafficking into a statewide crusade.
in 2001, georgia legislators changed state law to make the pimping of a child a felony instead of a misdemeanor. most headway took place on the local level.
angela's house, one of the nation's residential treatment homes for trafficked girls, opened in 2002. the six-bed safe house launched with $1 million in private and state funds.
two years later, the juvenile justice fund won a $1 million grant to raise awareness and to overhaul responses by service agencies and law enforcement.
in 2005, atlanta's then-mayor shirley franklin issued a thick research report outlining the problem. she followed up with the launch of the 'dear john' campaign to target johns and boost enforcement.
but the release of the schapiro group's 2007 data changed everything, said state sen. renee unterman, r-buford, a supporter of tougher laws against child prostitution.
'that's when i could go to the floor of the senate and say, 'did you know that 400 children are being prostituted on the streets of atlanta? ' unterman said.
in 2008, the legislature created a commission to study the commercial sex trafficking of children. legislation passed in 2009 added child prostitution to the forms of abuse teachers and others must report to authorities. that same year, the governor's office for children and families opened the georgia care connection office to coordinate victim treatment and other services.
it was 'the nation's first statewide response to address the needs of child sex trafficking victims, ' a 2010 news release said.
legislators toughened laws once more in 2011 and placed the georgia bureau of investigation in charge of child sex trafficking investigations.
on dec. 6, unterman and about a dozen lawmakers from other states took the cause to the white house. president obama's policy advisers wanted to know what they could do to help.
reality is messy.
the well-publicized advances belied a messy reality. mobilizing money and resources proved far easier than creating programs that find and help the exploited.
six nationwide anti-[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) sweeps dubbed 'operation cross country' recovered nine child victims in and around metro atlanta in six years, according to news accounts and fbi press releases.
angela's house closed when it came under new management. funding and referrals dried up, and the new provider felt the beds weren't needed because other safe houses had opened.
at a dec. 21 legislative committee meeting on [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908), gwinnett county district attorney danny porter complained that after years of efforts, policymakers know far less about the problem than they should. while the schapiro group's figures indicate the crime is widespread, porter said, his office rarely sees cases.
'we really haven't embarked on a process of finding out what we're dealing with, ' porter said.
it's unclear how many victims were helped by the $1 million awarded in 2004 to the juvenile justice fund.
the program began because 'serious overlaps and gaps' were causing children to fall through the cracks, advocates told the usa department of justice in a grant application.
one goal was to fill information gaps that keep victims from getting needed care and protection, the grant proposal said. participating agencies would meet regularly and install a case tracking database for victims of child sex trafficking and other abuse.
many fissures, however, remained, according to a $450, 000 federally-funded evaluation by georgia state university researchers. key agencies such as the division of family and children services failed to enter basic data into the system.
of 50 victims recorded in the child abuse database, only one entry said whether the pimp was arrested. of the 54 clients of angela's house. 29 were not in the database.
the agencies said they had other priorities. [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) was rare compared to child beatings, sex abuse and neglect cases, said finn, the evaluation report's lead author.
'we found it was not even in the front fore lobe of their consciousness. they had to struggle to remember the last time a kid they saw brought this up, ' finn said.
whether the program improved victim care remained a mystery. there wasn't enough information, the report said.
deborah richardson, now executive vice president of the national center for civil and human rights, was executive director of the juvenile justice fund. she said gathering information was not its central goal.
'that was never the intent of the project, ' she said. 'it really was about system change. '
the change wasn't enough for victims.
their parents and guardians reported that police and courts were helpful. so was the counseling. but it did not stop the children from dropping out of school or running away.
the teens wondered whether their futures were any brighter.
'in general, there was no clear sense of whether or not youth felt that they had 'gotten better' or that they were somehow at the end of a process, ' the evaluation report said.
help often lacking.
years later, it's still not clear victims are getting better or that the government response has improved.
the georgia care connection office's goal is to help **** girls who are commercially sexually exploited, but its own data show a majority of its referrals were not victims at all.
the office reported that it received 400 referrals during its first three years of operation. about 190 were victims. that is fewer than six per month.
about 40 children were only 'at risk' of becoming prostitutes. yet they still joined the caseload of the seven-person office. the rest were referred to other agencies or did not complete screening.
the help it did give to victims often fell short, according to a 2011 evaluation the office commissioned.
during the office's first two years, about 35 percent of its 136 clients, all female, returned to prostitution while they were receiving state help.
thirty-eight were arrested, some more than once. twelve became pregnant.
pimps were rarely brought to justice. written statements from eight victims led to charges. only four exploiters were convicted, the report found.
katie jo ballard, executive director of the governor's office for children and families, cancelled an interview to discuss the program's performance. she stopped responding to repeated requests by email, telephone and in person to comment.
the evaluation report did contain success stories. one client ran away from a safe house, returned to her exploiter, became pregnant and got arrested. but with help of the office, it said, she returned to treatment, continued her education and reunited with her parents.
'without the focused approach of gcco, the hard-earned progress noted in this report would not exist, ' the report said.
experts who help women leave prostitution recognize that small victories are rare.
at the gcco, even the most dedicated clients stumbled as they tried to leave their old lives, said katrina owens, a trafficking survivor who worked for two years as a peer support worker.
the program directed survivors to mental health services, but exploiters remained free. they called the girls relentlessly or knocked on their doors, owens said.
some teens could not get needed help because their parents could not afford it. others lacked transportation to attend programs that they could afford.
girls balked at applying to college because their criminal histories could make them ineligible for federal financial aid. they failed to find work, and the cost of books was so high they were tempted to pay for them through stripping or prostitution, owens said.
she left the program after two years. though civic groups lined up to ask her to speak at luncheons and fund-raisers as statewide interest in sex trafficking climbed, she was becoming a token survivor, not someone with growing expertise.
'i feel the. movement here has become somewhat of a fad, ' owens said. 'that's the truth. once the dust settles, i'm curious to know who will still be standing up for the cause. '
meet the reporter.
willoughby mariano started at the ajc in 2010 as a reporter for the politifact georgia team. previously, she worked for the orlando sentinel in florida, where she covered criminal justice and wrote a blog that chronicled the lives of those affected by years of record-breaking murder rates. she is co-winner of a national headliner award in investigative journalism for her coverage of laborers at orlando theme parks and hotels who worked under conditions that amounted to indentured servitude. she was born in brooklyn, raised outside of chicago, and lives in east atlanta with her husband and cats.
how we got the story.
ajc reporter willoughby mariano looked into evidence that atlanta is a top [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) hub and discovered that it and other oft-repeated claims about the crime were unsubstantiated or incorrect. documents revealed through freedom of information act requests and other reporting showed that anti-trafficking programs in atlanta and across the nation struggle to find and help victims. she reviewed thousands of pages of internal government files, scholarly research, federal research reports, and court records for this story, and conducted dozens of interviews with lawmakers, academics, advocates, program organizers, members of law enforcement, and others.
Western787
04-25-14, 08:18
Note sure if link works so reposting:http://sextraffickingtruths.********.com/
(apparently nworks on explorer but not chrome, due to title i guess)
Note the exaggerations, falsehoods, anddistortions in regard to the issue "sex trafficking" are of such epic proportions that even one of the biggest BS artists on the planet, Al Gore would be proud.
By the way, get ready for the sex trafficking zealots and fanatics and NGO's to soon be making their wild and unsupportable "hordes of sex trafficking women to descend upon on the games" type claims in the regard to the upcoming World Cup. These crazy claims happen every time the event is held, and they never disappoint
The AJC article cite below was from Dec 31 2012 and here is a direct link:http://www.ajc.com/news/news/trafficking-victims-fall-through-cracks-of-program/nTjRf/
the ajc article cite below was from dec 31 2012 and here is a direct link:http://www.ajc.com/news/news/trafficking-victims-fall-through-cracks-of-program/ntjrf/interesting article, love the way they estimate the number of **** prostitutes by saying it's 38% i'd say that number was way, way over.
many years ago. 15 maybe, the bangkok post ran an article on child prostitution in thailand. this was just after a big crackdown forced the industry, if you could call it that, over the border to cambodia. interestingly they said that it was happening still in bkk, mainly with poor families selling their daughters. i'd heard that the shops were way down soi 60 70 odd and that it was a thai only area. foreigners were definitely not welcome in the area. another issue that highlighted was around that time, early 00's, pattaya was the lesbian **** capital.
i can believe the number of 1.5 million trafficked, but i'd guess that 80% of this is in india, nepal and bangladesh and a lot are for domestic slaves, rather than for the sex trade. this is of course guesswork on my part and having travelled a fair amount around the world, but my guess is probably about as accurate as the figures in the studies.
Western787
04-26-14, 04:32
interesting article, love the way they estimate the number of **** prostitutes by saying it's 38% i'd say that number was way, way over.
many years ago. 15 maybe, the bangkok post ran an article on child prostitution in thailand. this was just after a big crackdown forced the industry, if you could call it that, over the border to cambodia. interestingly they said that it was happening still in bkk, mainly with poor families selling their daughters. i'd heard that the shops were way down soi 60 70 odd and that it was a thai only area. foreigners were definitely not welcome in the area. another issue that highlighted was around that time, early 00's, pattaya was the lesbian **** capital.
i can believe the number of 1. 5 million trafficked, but i'd guess that 80% of this is in india, nepal and bangladesh and a lot are for domestic slaves, rather than for the sex trade. this is of course guesswork on my part and having travelled a fair amount around the world, but my guess is probably about as accurate as the figures in the studies.think of a 3 card monte game, because the ngo's keep moving the cards around, for example they will intentionally use the terms "trafficking" "****" and "sex trafficking" interchangeably and mix in different classes of trafficked individuals to confuse matters, and keep funding going. the 1. 5 million sex trafficking number is complete nonsense, and its never been supported by anything happening on the ground, now that said, there are for example "trafficked" children used as beggars in india, but its not a sex trafficking thing, and thailand uses burmese and cambodians males (adult usually) construction workers, and there are abuses in regards to pay and working conditions and so forth, but the ngo's will purposely mix in different concept the produce their hysterical statistics. also the ngo's for years have refused to focus on the issue of gay males from wealthy countries coming to southeast asia to seek out **** 12 boys, in fact could well be the bulk of where the true trafficking has occurred, yet the ngo's tend to ignore it due the politically correct dogma that gays (percentage wise) don't seek out young boys any more (percentage wise) than straight men seek out young girls, which is absolute unequivocal bs. the boy scouts of america at one point would not allow gay scout leaders because they had 1000 damage (tort) cases filed against them. while most gay men do not molest young boys, the comparison numbers with heterosexual men is only a fraction of the problem. in the usa, for many years now the fbi (to gin up the stats) has a built in presumption in their sex trafficking numbersthat any woman immigrant arriving to the usa from certain asia countries (korea among others) if she is working in the amp business within 6 months of arrival, must be doing so against her will, and therefore is sexually trafficking, all complete bs of course. the ngo's even have invented a new terms called "self trafficked" basically meaning being both an adult and consenting is irrelevant
this statement is an example of the 3 card monte technique: "each year, around the world, millions of men, women and children are trafficked and exploited as forced or bonded laborers in factories, fisheries, fields, streets and brothels as part of a business that is raking in more than $30 billion in profits annually. southeast asia, where an estimated 200,000 to 400,000 people are trafficked each year, is a major hub for this thriving underworld. "http://www.viet-studies.info/kinhte/costs_of_human_trafficking.htm
the basic strategy to keep funding going 1. keep everything jumbled 2. the public won't' notice. 3 the msm will dutifully parrot it back 4. politicians like hillary clinton will hype it. 5. honest journalists will be shouted down and/or ignored.
If the numbers we read here and there are true and correct the streets would be flooded by non legal age sex workers.
If the numbers we read here and there about BKK, as an example with so many sex slaves, then how comes these girls do have long term bar fines, go back home for a while and then back to BKK, they go from one bar to the other, and so on? How can a sex slave do so?
They indeed invented the term "self-trafficking", so NGO can have a reason to survive.
NGO should look at themselves, see how prostitution expands when NGO's or UN's "invade a territory, take Haiti on the aftermath of the earthquake.
I briefly read the Atlanta report on the young girl hitting the streets for 9 years: wow. Efficient police activity if this (and others) have skipped their control, their knowledge. It didn't took much to a reporter to file the story, but a mission impossible for the police?
Western787
04-26-14, 14:27
If the numbers we read here and there are true and correct the streets would be flooded by non legal age sex workers.
If the numbers we read here and there about BKK, as an example with so many sex slaves, then how comes these girls do have long term bar fines, go back home for a while and then back to BKK, they go from one bar to the other, and so on? How can a sex slave do so?
They indeed invented the term "self-trafficking", so NGO can have a reason to survive.
NGO should look at themselves, see how prostitution expands when NGO's or UN's "invade a territory, take Haiti on the aftermath of the earthquake.
I briefly read the Atlanta report on the young girl hitting the streets for 9 years: wow. Efficient police activity if this (and others) have skipped their control, their knowledge. It didn't took much to a reporter to file the story, but a mission impossible for the police?They use a newer term called "virtual slaves" but under that definition an average office worker could call him or herself a virtual slave needing rescue. Note in the documentary one of the rescuers said a decade back he worked saving animals, but note many of these alleged extinct species claims were eventually proved to be false, but the ginned up hysteria had its 30 year run. Now he rescues "trafficked" humans. He knows this new gig will have at least a 30 year run also like all these things with made up stats do, so it gives him a job. Lot of NGO types IMHO are wealthy western trust fund types anyways, always following the latest fad to convince themselves they are saving the world.
Western787
04-26-14, 15:01
All of this supports your arguments to a certain extent. The numbers aren't as exaggerated as you think, but definitely are not painting the picture in an even, rational manner. What's more, the numbers are geographically uneven. The percentages are much higher in areas like South Asia, virtually close to 1% in areas like Bangkok, Singapore, etc.Cambodia HAS had some problems, and yes I think problems are more prevalent in the extreme 3rd world countries, but even in Cambodia there all sorts of NGO hype and distorted facts, so (since the main link doesn't work very well) this is story is worth posting.
Once Coached for TV, Now Asked to Keep Quiet about Sex Trafficking Hoax.
By Simon Marks and Kuch Naren. November 4, 2013.
The woman who claims she was coached by global anti-sex trafficking advocate Somaly Mam to fabricate a story of sexual slavery for French television in 1998 says she has been approached by a Somaly Mam Foundation (SMF) staff member, who has begged her to stop talking to the media.
Meas Ratha. 32, revealed last month that as a young teenager she was selected by Ms. Mam to appear on the France 2 television channel in 1998 after undergoing rehearsals with a group of other young girls to falsely recount how she was sold to a brothel owner in Phnom Penh.
Days after her revelation was published on October 12, Meas Ratha said she received her first visit from the SMF staffer.
'There was a girl. Came to me begging with tears to stop speaking to the media. Of course whatever I told you was true—that I was filmed to lie to the world and that I was a victim even though I was not, ' Ms. Ratha said in a telephone interview on October 24.
'But now I can no longer speak, ' she said.
Ms. Ratha identified the visitor as Sina Vann, a longtime employee of the SMF in Cambodia and program manager for the organization's Voices for Change (VFC) program. The VFC program is run by SMF and aims at giving a voice to victims of sex trafficking in order to raise awareness about the issue.
The second visit by Ms. Vann was on October 23, said Ms. Ra*tha, adding that the SMF staff member had stressed that speaking out about her past could greatly damage the reputation of Ms. Mam's organization.
'She was not here to intimidate me. But she begged me and cried in front of me and said that it would be a disaster for the organization if I keep talking to the media. She also asked me not to talk to other journalists if they approached me, ' Ms. Ratha said.
'If I keep talking it will bring trouble to everyone: myself, the organization and you [journalists]. I used to stay inside the [SMF] organization so I want to help it, ' she said, adding that she would heed the call and no longer speak about the fabricated story from 1998.
Ms. Ratha, who is now a streetside food vendor to garment factory workers on the outskirts of Phnom Penh, said she was admitted to Afesip in 1997 because her family of nine was struggling to survive.
Her parents and sister—who also stayed with Ms. Ratha inside an Afesip training center—backed-up Ms. Ratha's claim that she was never enslaved as a prostitute inside a brothel in Phnom Penh.
Ms. Vann could not be contacted for comment.
Afesip CEO Sao Chhoeurth said on October 24 that he was not aware of any visit having been made to Ms. Ratha.
Hayle Welgus, policy and liaison manager for SMF in Cam*bodia, said Ms. Vann had not been sent by the organization in an official capacity.
'SMF hasn't sent Sina [Vann] in an official capacity so I need to speak to her to see if she visited on a personal level, ' Ms. Welgus said on October 24.
Contacted on Friday, Ms. Wel*gus declined to comment and re*ferred questions to the communications department at SMF.
Asked about Ms. Vann's alleged visit to Ms. Ratha, the SMF communication's department declined to comment.
'The statement that was sent to you previously is all that we have to share on this matter, ' the communications department at SMF said in an email.
The SMF communications department was referring to a statement in which Afesip said in October that it would not speculate on why Ms. Ratha had denied the story she had told France 2.
Afesip has also declined to say from which brothel Ms. Ratha had been allegedly rescued or to which department of the police her case of alleged enslavement and rescue had been filed.
Though Ms. Ratha insists the visit from the SMF's Ms. Vann was only beseeching, she admits that she is now unwilling to speak out about the truth behind her story due to any repercussions that could stem from harming Afesip's reputation in Cambodia.
After The Cambodia Daily reported its findings in October 2012 into the story of Long Pros, one of SMF's most publicized members of the Voices for Change program, the young woman's father, Long Hon, said he was paid a visit from Afesip staff who had also asked him to cease speaking to the media.
Ms. Pros had long told a horrific story of having an eye gouged out at the hands of a brothel owner. However, medical rec*ords show that Ms. Pros' eye was re*moved by an eye surgeon in hospital—the victim of a large benign tumor that covered one of her eyes for many years during childhood.
Ms. Pros was only sent to Afesip after undergoing her operation at the Takeo Eye Hospital, her parents said, a claim that was also confirmed by medical rec*ords and images obtained showing Ms. Pros' medically-removed eye.
While members of the SMF staff now appear reluctant for Ms. Ratha and the family of Ms. Pros to continue speaking to reporters, a huge amount of Ms. Mam's success and global fame stems from the highly public testimony and many media interviews conducted by the young women inside her organization who tell harrowing tales of sex trafficking.
The high-media profile of the SMF, and support from board members such as Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg and Hollywood actress Susan Sarandon, has helped the foundation's revenues and expenditures rocket in recent years.
In 2011, the latest year for which figures are available, spending by the SMF increased to $3. 53 million. The SMF's annual fund*raising gala in New York on Oc*tober 23 was a star-studded event where tickets for some tables went for $100, 000.
Related Stories.
More Questions Over Somaly Mam's Kidnapping Claim A second former staff member of anti-trafficking organization Afesip has cast doubts over long-standing claims.
1. Police Deny Killings at Somaly Mam Center Police have strongly denied claims by Somaly Mam, the well-known president of local anti-trafficking organization.
2. Questions Raised Over Symbol's Slavery Story For years now, the scarred face of Long Pros has symbolized the depredation of sex.
3. Sex Slave Story Revealed to be Fabricated Meas Ratha was a teenager when she appeared on French television telling a tragic tale.
4. The Rise of the Somaly Mam Foundation Since its creation in 2007, the Somaly Mam Foundation has attracted top USA business leaders.
Article Link: http://www.cambodiadaily.com/featured-stories/secrets-and-lies-44964/
http://www.cambodiadaily.com/featured-stories/once-coached-for-tv-now-asked-to-keep-quiet-46510/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-henry-sterry/everything-you-think-you-_b_4086449.html
Think of a 3 card monte game, because the NGO's keep moving the cards around.Cogently and persuasively written. Thanks for taking the time to post.
Bunky
Paul Kausch
04-27-14, 17:42
think of a 3 card monte game, because the ngo's keep moving the cards around, for example they will intentionally use the terms "trafficking" "****" and "sex trafficking" interchangeably and mix in different classes of trafficked individuals to confuse matters, and keep funding going.this trick is not limited to the ngos that work the sex traffic theme. i know something about ngos that deal with displaced people. these are like refugees, only they have remained within the boarders of their country. technically to be a refuge, one must be living on foreign soil. the ngos working with displaced people might describe an event, such as a civil war in one region of the country, and then site a huge number of displaced people in the country, leading one to believe all of these people have been displaced by the civil war. in fact the number of people displaced by the civil war may be small. the number sited is an estimate of the total number of displaced people in the country, most of whom are actually voluntary transients looking for work. i know some fine people working for excellent ngos. there are also scoundrels working for ngos that are really nothing more than a con game.
I was staying close to the Grand Hyatt last week and popped into Spasso's three times. Every time there were women from Africa. Twice there were two Colombians, Paula and Vanessa, both from Medellin. I actually went with Paula. She's fairly attractive, will ask for 6, 000 Baht for one hour and insist you either pay her up front or leave the money on the table. She has spent 5 years in Asia practicing her profession, and is somewhat jaded. Without sounding arrogant, given my suave, debonair looks and good Spanish, if anyone could have been able to soften her up it would be me, and I only got part way there. OK, just kidding about the suave, debonair part, but she really doesn't like her profession and that comes out.
Vanessa is bubbly, blonde, cute, and a lot more fun to talk to, but unfortunately a bit of a porker. Paula hasn't had any children, Vanessa has had one or two. Both are on the short side and physically could pass for Europeans or Americans. I initially thought Paula was Russian.
My guess is that you can find these two most nights in Spasso and/or Mixx. They tell me there are other Colombians like them in Bangkok, and you can find them at Mixx. That doesn't get started until about my bedtime though.
One thing that was interesting, apparently someone, I think a Colombian mafioso, paid for Paula's air ticket to Asia, and she had to pay it back with interest or she and/or her family would be in deep shit. She succeeded in doing that, but stays in Asia so she can send money home to her mother. She says she hasn't saved any herself. She's made the circuit, Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand and China.
One thing that was interesting, apparently someone, I think a Colombian mafioso, paid for Paula's air ticket to Asia, and she had to pay it back with interest or she and/or her family would be in deep shit. She succeeded in doing that, but stays in Asia so she can send money home to her mother. She says she hasn't saved any herself. She's made the circuit, Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand and China.And something tells me she's going to stay on the HK / SG / TH / CN circuit for a loooong time.
A "fairly attractive" Colombiana (now THAT'S being damned with faint praise) who demands $200USD per hour and has a bad attitude? I guess only in Asia. She certainly ain't going to rake in that kind of dough doing the circuit in Latin America.
And something tells me she's going to stay on the HK / SG / TH / CN circuit for a loooong time.
A "fairly attractive" Colombiana (now THAT'S being damned with faint praise) who demands $200USD per hour and has a bad attitude? I guess only in Asia. She certainly ain't going to rake in that kind of dough doing the circuit in Latin America.She wouldn't be one of the best lookers in any of the top hooker clubs in Colombian or Central American cities. But actually, on three nights, I only remember one Thai in Spasso's that looked better than she did. I can't entirely figure out the attraction of the place, unless like me you're staying in the Grand Hyatt or one of the nearby hotels. You can find much hotter women for half the price at places like Rainbow 4 and Baccara. I took one Thai woman from Spasso's, and she provided poor service. Paula, the Colombian, was pretty good by comparison.
Member #4263
05-16-14, 13:00
May I know which soapies have a few Laotian and Burmese women? Poseidon, Colonze 2 and Alaina maybe?
Wolvenvacht
05-16-14, 20:17
May I know which soapies have a few Laotian and Burmese women? Poseidon, Colonze 2 and Alaina maybe?If I'm not mistaken, only Thai girls are allowed to work in the "entertainment" industry. While we all know that is not true in practice, I doubt if ithe soapies will advertise that fact and even the girls will perhaps not tell you, rather claiming that they live on the Thai side of the border.
Hey,
Been writing this on various forums no one seems to know what goes on in those dance bars.
I did once go up to 3rd and 4th floor I think of these clubs whose entrance were just elevators.
This club was if you walk from Sukumvit towards grace hotel 4-5th shop on the right.
I sat there saw absolute stunners, who sat at tables and would be invited to dance and these guys would throw money at her.
I manager got me a drink and asked if I like but as I felt out of place I was to out of sorts to even ask what's the game and limits.
Anyone any clues.
I only ask as I found them so well dressed and so beautiful.
Try Arab restaurants between Sukhumvit and Grace Hotel. I can't remember the name but I think if you walk from Sukhumvit on Soi 3 towards Grace hotel, take first right and immediately on the corner is an Indian restaurant. You may find mostly Uzbek (sometimes pretending to be Arab there or rarely a genuine Arab there. If you walk further in the same street there is a very busy Arab restaurant at the corner on left. I met a Jordanian there.
Please note that I am not Arab and cannot speak Arabic. However, I think in the first one were Uzbek pretending to be Arab (guessed from their height and colour) and the Arab restaurant was probably genuine Arab.
Quality is not good and you can easily negotiate from BHT 1000 to BHT 2000.
However, for Arab girls probably your best option is Morocco. (probably Arab speaking North Africans)
Gulfcruise
07-25-14, 18:59
Gents,
Climax, CM2 all were the club of past. Just go to SHOCK39 Disco plenty of foreign birds. Enjoyed 3 some for 3 consecutive days.
Gents,
Climax, CM2 all were the club of past. Just go to SHOCK39 Disco plenty of foreign birds. Enjoyed 3 some for 3 consecutive days.The foreign birds all come with an attitude and demand B5000 for an overnighter. Too many restrictions on services performed. Friendly disposition at the club but once you enter the hotel room and start to get into the action, the real color shows off. I prefer to go with the locals for baht 2000 who provide you the service with a smile.
Z.
Russian hookers? Mixx club in Bangkok:
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10299081_707094049352742_671235265568778562_n.jpg
Crocodilexp
08-06-14, 12:29
Russian hookers? Mixx club in Bangkok:
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10299081_707094049352742_671235265568778562_n.jpgI'd be willing to bet a fair amount of money the girls in the picture are civilians. "Russian" hookers in Bangkok don't look like that. One outlier, I could understand, but three in a group? Difficult to believe.
Wolvenvacht
08-06-14, 19:08
Russian hookers? Mixx club in Bangkok:
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10299081_707094049352742_671235265568778562_n.jpgFor all we know they could be the daughters of the Russian Ambassador.
For all we know they could be the daughters of the Russian Ambassador.Brilliant!
I'd be willing to bet a fair amount of money the girls in the picture are civilians. "Russian" hookers in Bangkok don't look like that. One outlier, I could understand, but three in a group? Difficult to believe.So far one person thinks they're hookers, one thinks they're not regular hookers but available for a price which makes them a kind of hooker, and then there's your opinion.
How do "Russian" hookers look. They never gather in groups as large as three? Any idea of the nationality of a fourth girl, on the far left in the background, holding something in her hand.
Did CM2 or other venues never have "Russian" hookers that look like that? I seem to recall reports of some of them being very hot, though without pics it's impossible to say if they'd match up or be my cup of tea.
For all we know they could be the daughters of the Russian Ambassador.Would that stop you.
Not being able to speak for everyone, I'm waiting for someone who actually knows or has a clue.
CM2.
2013.
I don't know about hotel but this bar is very attractive since you mostly see European girls and middle eastern men.
Girls here are also higher level and more expensive than go-go bars in Bangkok maybe because richer men go over there.
There isn't a lot of dancing there and mostly girls over there are prostitutes and men are picking them, but overall it's a good place esp if you are tired of just Thai girls.
2014.
Has closed.
http://www.tripadvisor.com.sg/Attraction_Review-g293916-d1759694-Reviews-Concept_CM2-Bangkok.html
Mixx.
If you go to this club to have a dance you'll be disappointed. Poor music, awful sound, chain smoking men and women. Sex workers and clients. The place has two dance floors and nobody except us was dancing.
Most (but not ALL) of the female customers are 'working'.
Anyone who has been inside Mixx will have seen it's a very multi-cultural place. There are white, black, Asian and Arab guests.
Most of ladies there are working woman. Thai, Russian and Columbian.
Definitely a 'who's who' of the Bangkok expat crowd, but with lots of sketchy Russian mafia types.
70-80% of the girls there are pros.
The smoking section of the club is patronised by a lot of Russian ladies of dubious occupation.
As with most clubs that westerners frequent in Thailand there's a high percentage of prostitutes there and even the ones who aren't will ask you for money for services rendered.
La musique est terrible.
http://www.tripadvisor.com.sg/Attraction_Review-g293916-d4463396-Reviews-Mixx_discotepque-Bangkok.html
Crocodilexp
08-10-14, 23:40
How do "Russian" hookers look. They never gather in groups as large as three? Any idea of the nationality of a fourth girl, on the far left in the background, holding something in her hand.
Did CM2 or other venues never have "Russian" hookers that look like that? In Thailand, almost 95% are rather worn out. Think about it, if you're a top 5% looker (as girls in the picture are) why go from Moscow (one of the world's most expensive cities) to Bangkok (one of the world's cheapest, for hooker prices too) to be a prostitute? Those 3 girls could *easily* pull $200-$500 per night in Moscow clubs, with none of the visa hassles and risks of being in Thailand.
Again, it's uncommon, but not impossible to find 1 stray good looking Russian prostitute. But 3? Very unlikely.
Let's put it like this: let's go to Mixx together, show me those 3 together so we can make sure they're working girls and I'll gladly pay your 4000 baht to take out one of them, and take the second one for myself. (if not, just pay me 500 baht for the entry fee and cab fare). Yes, I'm that sure.
BTW, most of the "Russian" prostitutes in Bangkok are not even Russian, but Central Asian (Uzbek and such).
In Thailand, almost 95% are rather worn out. Think about it, if you're a top 5% looker (as girls in the picture are) why go from Moscow (one of the world's most expensive cities) to Bangkok (one of the world's cheapest, for hooker prices too) to be a prostitute? Those 3 girls could *easily* pull $200-$500 per night in Moscow clubs, with none of the visa hassles and risks of being in Thailand.
BTW, most of the "Russian" prostitutes in Bangkok are not even Russian, but Central Asian (Uzbek and such).I would think the girl on the left would easily get a long standing arrangement of a sugar daddy in Moscow that would be six figures, she is simply stunning IMHO. I used to drink at a bar in Singapore with Russian pole dancers (not P4 P girls) and they were pretty good looking, but these three are even better.
I've got no doubt these are not hookers, more likely professional models brought in for a photoshoot to promote the club. All three are very photogenic and the pic is too professional for a phone camera.
I would think the girl on the left would easily get a long standing arrangement of a sugar daddy in Moscow that would be six figures, she is simply stunning IMHO. I used to drink at a bar in Singapore with Russian pole dancers (not P4 P girls) and they were pretty good looking, but these three are even better.
I've got no doubt these are not hookers, more likely professional models brought in for a photoshoot to promote the club. All three are very photogenic and the pic is too professional for a phone camera.Back then, there's really some Russian women in South East Asia, but usually from the Asian parts of Rusia (cities like Vladivostok or Khabarovsk). Maybe it; s closer to go to Jakarta / KL / Bangkok / S'pore, than go to Moscow. But nowadays (in Jakarta especially) no more, just Usbek girls (some have Russian blood).
BTW, where in Singapore we can see Russian pole dancers?
I would think the girl on the left would easily get a long standing arrangement of a sugar daddy in Moscow that would be six figures, she is simply stunning IMHO. I used to drink at a bar in Singapore with Russian pole dancers (not P4 P girls) and they were pretty good looking, but these three are even better.
I've got no doubt these are not hookers, more likely professional models brought in for a photoshoot to promote the club. All three are very photogenic and the pic is too professional for a phone camera.Agreed. Not hookers.
In Thailand, almost 95% are rather worn out. Think about it, if you're a top 5% looker (as girls in the picture are) why go from Moscow (one of the world's most expensive cities) to Bangkok (one of the world's cheapest, for hooker prices too) to be a prostitute? Those 3 girls could *easily* pull $200-$500 per night in Moscow clubs, with none of the visa hassles and risks of being in Thailand.
BTW, most of the "Russian" prostitutes in Bangkok are not even Russian, but Central Asian (Uzbek and such).There could be many issues related to why certain non Russian "Russians" of former Russian colonies travel to BKK instead of trying to work in Moscow venues. Bangkok may be much easier. The "Russian" competition amongst Russians in Bangkok will certainly be far less than in Russia. In Bangkok they will be much more of a unique treasure, especially if they are hot and are real "Russians" from Russia. BTW did you notice the comments re Mixx from TA spoke of Russian mafia / pimps there.
In Bangkok there are many guys from all over the world with large amounts of disposable income. Even NCP girls I know have allegedly recieved 6 figure Baht amounts for a few days to 2 weeks of being someone's "company", but I'm sure the girl on the right has much more pussy power than them, good for 6000 Baht ST and 10 K LT, at least, which is about what you quoted for Moscow.
The other 2 girls don't interest me so much. The middle one I wouldn't take for free, as she reminds me of Tony Romo's ex, & go for this lady instead:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t1.0-9/10246509_725832887478858_6498709271576604901_n.jpg
More foreign girls at Mixx:
https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10464374_725833150812165_854715352354809806_n.jpg
The best activities for your health are pumping and humping -Arnold Schwarzenegger-.
BTW, where in Singapore we can see Russian pole dancers?Club Romeos in Orchard Towers. They have Russian Pole dancers and Thai ladyboys, but it's pretty easy to tell the difference. The LB's will leave you alone once they realise you're there for the Russians and not them. Another bar (can't remember the name) on the same level across and in the corner also has Russians as well as the usual P4 P girls from Indo, Phil, Viet, etc. I left Sing at the start o the year so things may have changed at this bar but Romeos is still going, a mate was there a few weeks ago.
"Russian booboos, you go for some basic foreplay, they'll detail your car."
KombatWombat
08-20-14, 00:38
Is there still plenty of girls from Soviet bloc in Phuket or has that been shut down?
Solo Traveler
09-02-14, 18:41
Those foreign working girls (most of them are from the former Soviet Union countries) don't last long in Thailand.
They may stay in Thailand for about 6 months-12 months, and then they move on to the next destination to work.
It's like they are having "working holiday tour" around Asia.
When those girls from poor countries start to have a taste of the feeling of earning quick and easy money (maybe 3000-10000 Baht in just one day), they also start to spend money at will and waste most of their money on lots of unnecessary stuff.
They indulge themselves in this kind of lifestyle (earn quick and easy money, and spend most of them immediately).
So, after the "working holiday tour" ends, they usually still have nothing.
Sad, pathetic, but real.
What's more, there are also mongers who fall in love with the foreign working girls. The girls left the mongers without a trace (maybe they go back home), after taking a large amount of money form the mongers.
As a monger, I always remind myself not to make that kind of mistake, when I feel that I am going to fall in love with some working girls I really like.
Wolvenvacht
09-02-14, 21:35
Those foreign working girls (most of them are from the former Soviet Union countries) don't last long in Thailand.
They may stay in Thailand for about 6 months-12 months, and then they move on to the next destination to work.
It's like they are having "working holiday tour" around Asia.
When those girls from poor countries start to have a taste of the feeling of earning quick and easy money (maybe 3000-10000 Baht in just one day), they also start to spend money at will and waste most of their money on lots of unnecessary stuff.
They indulge themselves in this kind of lifestyle (earn quick and easy money, and spend most of them immediately).
So, after the "working holiday tour" ends, they usually still have nothing.
Sad, pathetic, but real.
What's more, there are also mongers who fall in love with the foreign working girls. The girls left the mongers without a trace (maybe they go back home), after taking a large amount of money form the mongers.
As a monger, I always remind myself not to make that kind of mistake, when I feel that I am going to fall in love with some working girls I really like.Isn't it so that many of these foreign working girls are part of an organization that collects the major part of their earnings?
Solo Traveler
09-03-14, 02:24
Isn't it so that many of these foreign working girls are part of an organization that collects the major part of their earnings?In Bangkok, I guess "working girls coming to Bangkok by themselves, and have no pimps or organizations behind them" compose 30% of the foreign working girls in Bangkok.
"working girls coming to Bangkok by the support of pimps or organizations behind them, and the pimps or organization take a large part of the working girls' income" compose 70% of the foreign working girls in Bangkok.
Yes, you're right, most of them (70% of them) do have pimps or organizations behind them.
The pimps or organizations will take away a large part of their income (50%-80%) as their evil pimp commission.
I have met both kinds of working girls (with pimps & without pimps) in Bangkok.
Normally, it's difficult to tell whether the girl has pimps or not, unless the girl totally trust you and is willing to tell you the truth.
I've heard lots of different stories.
I guess some stories are true, while some stories are over-exaggerated and made-up by the girls, because they want the mongers to feel sorry for them and therefore give them more money.
For example, I recently met a working girl form Uzbekistan.
After I fucked her for few times, she started to tell me how sad and pathetic her life was (something like she's a single mom with a kid, her husband left them, etc). She said that she have to pay her pimp 4000 USA Dollars (approximately 120000 Thai Baht; I don't know why they use USA Dollars as their currency), and then the pimp would provide her a flight ticket and allow her to go back home.
She wanted me to give her 120000 Thai Baht. Of course, I refused and sent her away.
I guess some part of her story may be true (The single mom part).
However, some part of her story may be over-exaggerated and made-up (The 4000 USA Dollars /120000 Thai Baht part).
First, if she's so desperate to pay off 4000 USA Dollars /120000 Thai Baht to her pimp to buy her own freedom, she should live a frugal life and save every Baht she earned.
When I was her, I observed that she was actually living a very comfortable and easy life. She spent her money on lots of useless stuff, and she even gave generous tips to the waiters / waitresses when we went to a restaurant together.
She didn't look like she was trying to save money and pay off her pimp. That's why I don't believe her story.
I decided not to call or meet her anymore.
Any idea if there are foreign sex workers in Pattaya and, if yes, in what area they can be found? I don't mean girls from Laos or Cambodia, I mean Arabs or Russian for example.
Wolvenvacht
09-17-14, 21:08
Any idea if there are foreign sex workers in Pattaya and, if yes, in what area they can be found? I don't mean girls from Laos or Cambodia, I mean Arabs or Russian for example.If I remember well, there is (was?) an agogo club near the entrance of Walking Street that had a "Russian" (more probably someone from one of the *stan republics) poledancer in the upstairs window. I never went in as I'm not interested in this type of women. Rumour and reports have it that they are expensive and their service is not as expected for the price they command.
On the road to Jomtien there is a whole "Arab" quarter. More correctly it is a Muslim area with their typical restaurants and hotels. Whether they also serve "Arab" girls I have no idea. But I did spot the more chubby type of girls walking around which seems to be more to the liking of our Muslim brethren.
ActionOriented
09-18-14, 03:41
If I remember well, there is (was?) an agogo club near the entrance of Walking Street that had a "Russian" (more probably someone from one of the *stan republics) poledancer in the upstairs window. I think the agogo club with Russians (CIS) is a little towards the middle of WS, next to the boxing area. They stand out like a sore thumb, with so many thai around, having a couple of Russian hello guys (as opposed to hello girls).
Also, there are a couple of rip off agogo Russian joints in Phuket as well (Moulin Rouge).
There are 2 places in Walking Street. Moulin Rouge and Galaxy on the First Floor on the right side next to Pier Disco.
Both are a rip off and not worth the experience if you have seen similar women inDubai or Europe. You can just get a lap dance for about 1000 Bhat. There is also a club at the end of waling street called Mask Club you can try your luck there.
Any idea if there are foreign sex workers in Pattaya and, if yes, in what area they can be found? I don't mean girls from Laos or Cambodia, I mean Arabs or Russian for example.
Wolvenvacht
09-18-14, 19:35
I think the agogo club with Russians (CIS) is a little towards the middle of WS, next to the boxing area. They stand out like a sore thumb, with so many thai around, having a couple of Russian hello guys (as opposed to hello girls).Yes you maybe right. I did not particularly gave them much attention, so I may be some distance off. And anyhow I have "long legs" (says my Thai GF), so my "entrance" of WS may be someone else's "middle".
Reiner Otto
09-18-14, 20:37
There are 2 places in Walking Street. Moulin Rouge and Galaxy on the First Floor on the right side next to Pier Disco.
Both are a rip off and not worth the experience if you have seen similar women inDubai or Europe. Totally agree. As I spent several years in Russia and Ukraine, just because of curiosity, and for comparison, I went into one of the Russian clubs on WS, upstairs. To keep it short: 3rd class girls for 1st class prices. Just a huuuuge ripoff.
In case of real interest (and some balls), go to Kiev for a week or two. Low season prices now.
There are 2 places in Walking Street. Moulin Rouge and Galaxy on the First Floor on the right side next to Pier Disco.
Both are a rip off and not worth the experience if you have seen similar women inDubai or Europe. You can just get a lap dance for about 1000 Bhat. There is also a club at the end of waling street called Mask Club you can try your luck there.Thanks yes I remember those two places and actually they never really attracted me. I have never heard of the Mask Club before, I might try it as soon as I have the chance to.
I observed that she was actually living a very comfortable and easy life. She spent her money on lots of useless stuff, and she even gave generous tips to the waiters / waitresses, ..That's why I don't believe her story.Whats useless to one may be necessary to another, often the poor tip more than the rich. More on topic, in comparison with Dubai, theres not the quantity, but I've certainly found some quality in Bangkok. I'ld compare Dubai clubs like York and Jockeys to Bangclub clubs Bossy and Shock. Theres one particular stunning brunette in Bossy who would earn 3 times her rate in Dubai. No where in Dubai is there the great set up of Rajah hotel in Bangkok. The girls wait together in rooms and offer 100 us per hour. Dubai is twice the price and more. There are several stunning girls at Rajah that I'ld compare to upmarket club Premiere in Dubai. You may not always see them as there popular and they work there own hours. Luckily I stumbled accross them. Ask for Honey or Anya and your see what I mean. Another key thing Bangkok has over Dubai is theres a few Thai girls there, and ultimately Bangkok is way cheaper to live and eat, and as a country I'ld say far happier and free. Buddha is a little less uptight than Alllah). Some EE girls much prefer the lifestyle of Thailand. Their lifestyle in Dubai is severely limited by absurd laws. Personaly I'ld agree with them there, from where I come from. I don't see any worthwhile lifestyle in Dubai. Dubai just wins by numbers of EE girls. Cheers Nickc.
Can someone please tell me how it works to pick up a girl for incall or outcall at Rajah?
I have been there couple of times but could not make sense of it. The restaurant is empty during day time, in the evening I saw a group of Russians and Stanis sitting together in restaurant but only briefly. Mostly there was no one in restaurent after 8 pm.
So how does one go about it?
Crocodilexp
09-21-14, 17:22
Can someone please tell me how it works to pick up a girl for incall or outcall at Rajah?
I have been there couple of times but could not make sense of it. The restaurant is empty during day time, in the evening I saw a group of Russians and Stanis sitting together in restaurant but only briefly. Mostly there was no one in restaurent after 8 pm.
So how does one go about it?
You take the elevator upstairs, that's where the girls are. The pimps will explain the rest. Usually, there is a pimp by the elevator to take you up, if not, you can just go up yourself (if you don't know the exact floor, guess, then go down, you'll find it). There are several (3-4) open-door display rooms with 4-5 girls in each.
The usual deal is 1 shot on the premises for 2500-3000 baht all-in. They might quote higher, negotiating is OK since their customers are often Arabs / Indians, but you won't get a very steep discount just a few hundred baht.
Ah! I didn't know that and wondered on my previous trips where the action is.
I guess action (availability and quantity / quality) usually starts in the evening or is it a all day all you can eat (spend. LOL) buffet?
You take the elevator upstairs, that's where the girls are. The pimps will explain the rest. Usually, there is a pimp by the elevator to take you up, if not, you can just go up yourself (if you don't know the exact floor, guess, then go down, you'll find it). There are several (3-4) open-door display rooms with 4-5 girls in each.
The usual deal is 1 shot on the premises for 2500-3000 baht all-in. They might quote higher, negotiating is OK since their customers are often Arabs / Indians, but you won't get a very steep discount just a few hundred baht.
Solo Traveler
10-03-14, 17:15
Whats useless to one may be necessary to another, often the poor tip more than the rich. More on topic, in comparison with Dubai, theres not the quantity, but I've certainly found some quality in Bangkok. I'ld compare Dubai clubs like York and Jockeys to Bangclub clubs Bossy and Shock. Theres one particular stunning brunette in Bossy who would earn 3 times her rate in Dubai. No where in Dubai is there the great set up of Rajah hotel in Bangkok. The girls wait together in rooms and offer 100 us per hour. Dubai is twice the price and more. There are several stunning girls at Rajah that I'ld compare to upmarket club Premiere in Dubai. You may not always see them as there popular and they work there own hours. Luckily I stumbled accross them. Ask for Honey or Anya and your see what I mean. Another key thing Bangkok has over Dubai is theres a few Thai girls there, and ultimately Bangkok is way cheaper to live and eat, and as a country I'ld say far happier and free. Buddha is a little less uptight than Alllah). Some EE girls much prefer the lifestyle of Thailand. Their lifestyle in Dubai is severely limited by absurd laws. Personaly I'ld agree with them there, from where I come from. I don't see any worthwhile lifestyle in Dubai. Dubai just wins by numbers of EE girls. Cheers Nickc.Nickc,
Thanks for your information.
Yeah, I agree that Rajah Hotel is the fastest and easiest way to fuck women of European race in Bangkok.
I am an East Asian living in East Asia.
I was far more excited and far more horny to see a normal-looking European grandma than to see a super-hot Asian young model.
My Bangkok trip ended up to be a joke in my life, which I am so embarrassed to report it on the Internet til now.
During my 7-day vacation in Bangkok, I fucked 10 European working women and 2 Thai working women totally. I was in Bangkok. And I was looking for European working women desperately there.
I was paying 3000 Thai Baht (for Short time) to 7000 Thai Baht (for Long time) to have sex with normal-looking and sometimes mid-aged Russian / Ukrainian / Uzbekistan freelancers in Bangkok!
LOL! I still couldn't stop laughing at myself until now.
Ah! I didn't know that and wondered on my previous trips where the action is.
I guess action (availability and quantity / quality) usually starts in the evening or is it a all day all you can eat (spend. LOL) buffet?I guess they start to run their business after 7 pm.
I always went there after 7 pm.
There will be pimps hanging around the entrance. Just make eye contact with them, and they will lead you and introduce everything for you.
I was always quoted for 3100 Thai Baht. Some guys said they paid only 2600 Thai Baht after bargained with the pimps over the price.
So, I guess, if they desperate for business and you bargain with the pimps over the price, maybe you can save up to 500 Thai Baht by doing so.
Oliver Kitsoff
10-15-14, 08:54
The Ebola thing is a worry, at first I put it down to sensationalism, other peoples problems, or been there before and it got sorted (sort of) now, it does seem it is a matter of time before the first African hooker or scammer / tourist, imports that little nasty, and the whole business as usual 'mai bpen rai' thing at the borders here means it is almost a given.
One feverish Ebola victim strolling down on Sukhumvit Rd, Patpong Market, or Walking Street, Pattaya could likely be the catalyst that sends it spiraling out of control. 21 days later. Globally, and in Thailand itself.
Given the fear factor, and the level of care needed to contain the contamination, the virus could quite easily reach a tipping point, or unstoppable mass anywhere on the planet where they have scant resources, and are generally disorganized, and a little too laid back, (AKA here) within six months.
Oliver Kitsoff
10-15-14, 09:09
Yeah, I agree that Rajah Hotel is the fastest and easiest way to fuck women of European race in Bangkok.
I am an East Asian living in East Asia.
I was far more excited and far more horny to see a normal-looking European grandma than to see a super-hot Asian young model.
My Bangkok trip ended up to be a joke in my life, which I am so embarrassed to report it on the Internet til now.
During my 7-day vacation in Bangkok, I fucked 10 European working women and 2 Thai working women totally. I was in Bangkok. And I was looking for European working women desperately there.
I was paying 3000 Thai Baht (for Short time) to 7000 Thai Baht (for Long time) to have sex with normal-looking and sometimes mid-aged Russian / Ukrainian / Uzbekistan freelancers in Bangkok!
LOL! I still couldn't stop laughing at myself until now.
I was always quoted for 3100 Thai Baht. Some guys said they paid only 2600 Thai Baht after bargained with the pimps over the price.
So, I guess, if they desperate for business and you bargain with the pimps over the price, maybe you can save up to 500 Thai Baht by doing so.I am not here to diss you for this, but unless you really have a financial problem, why not spend a little more and holiday in Germany next time and have an incredible FKK experience. I took my Chinese / Aussie buddy to an FKK and to Pascha, in Cologne (the worlds biggest brothel) in 2012 and HE is still saying it is the best experience HE ever had, plus we did some really cool regular tourist things in Berlin.
There are cheaper countries too such as Bulgaria, where English is widely spoken (compared to say Portugal). And they have many other stunning and still little known attractions, including super hot girls. Portugal have highway hookers who will do you in your hire car starting at 20 Euros, this is not an exaggeration, I lived in Portugal for 8 months last year, they are everywhere on the smaller country roads in Summer. It's not a big monger country, as such, but an example that you can have a relatively cheap holiday in Europe and still bang reasonable girls for LESS than in BKK. The best way to do this is hire a MPV or even campervan which you and a wingman can use as a 'bangbus' also sleep in it at night, and use the caravan parks all over Europe for showering, and secure parking at night, perfect!
Bottom line, why come to BKK at all if Euro girls are your thing, unless you are too broke for a European trip, or simply have to eat Asian food 24/7 or you'll die, trust me you won't. :-)
Bottom line, why come to BKK at all if Euro girls are your thing, unless you are too broke for a European trip, or simply have to eat Asian food 24/7 or you'll die, trust me you won't. :-)If Russians are your thing, the USD is worth about 50 percent more rubles than it did in 2011 and 25 percent more since a year ago. It is now at 1 USD to 41 rubles compared to around 32 and 28 rubles at those earlier dates. So much more value & bang for your buck, eh?
Wolvenvacht
10-15-14, 20:27
The Ebola thing is a worry, at first I put it down to sensationalism, other peoples problems, or been there before and it got sorted (sort of) now, it does seem it is a matter of time before the first African hooker or scammer / tourist, imports that little nasty, and the whole business as usual 'mai bpen rai' thing at the borders here means it is almost a given.I think the risks are much much higher in airports such as Heathrow, Paris CDG or even Brussels. Someone infected but not yet showing any sign of this infection would pass unnoticed and unchallenged there and might die a few weeks later in the middle of rush hour on the Undergound or Metro.
And although ebola is far less infectuous than many other diseases (every ebola-carrier will infect on the average "only" two other people) that is already far too much.
I don't think there are that many direct flights from Africa to BKK that we should particularly worry about it.
The Ebola thing is a worry, at first I put it down to sensationalism, other peoples problems, or been there before and it got sorted (sort of) now, it does seem it is a matter of time before the first African hooker or scammer / tourist, imports that little nasty, and the whole business as usual 'mai bpen rai' thing at the borders here means it is almost a given.
One feverish Ebola victim strolling down on Sukhumvit Rd, Patpong Market, or Walking Street, Pattaya could likely be the catalyst that sends it spiraling out of control. 21 days later. Globally, and in Thailand itself.
Given the fear factor, and the level of care needed to contain the contamination, the virus could quite easily reach a tipping point, or unstoppable mass anywhere on the planet where they have scant resources, and are generally disorganized, and a little too laid back, (AKA here) within six months.All this talk about Ebola is nothing but fear mongering. I wouldn't worry about none of it since Its in primarily in Africa. Dont get suckered by the media. Its NOT a pandemic.
All this talk about Ebola is nothing but fear mongering. I wouldn't worry about none of it since Its in primarily in Africa. Dont get suckered by the media. Its NOT a pandemic.While I agree that Ebola is primarily in Africa and that it is NOT a pandemic, that does not complete the rest of the narrative, which is that it is not a pandemic YET and without huge intervention the virus will not be staying in Africa.
I think that Thailand is time wise further away from Ebola in all sorts of senses than other countries, such as many Western countries. You only have to look at the air traffic between Africa and certain countries to see this.
The USA does not plough in large amounts of cash into small African countries for nothing. They want to slow the local epidemic down so as to slow the international transmission down too. The health specialists (WHO and others) no doubt realise that in the early days of Ebola they dropped the ball by thinking it was just something that happens in Africa and is easily contained in villages that were largely self-sufficient anyway. But when Ebola got into cities where people need to go to the market for food, where there is large scale travel, including international travel, the terms of the game changed.
The concern now is that if the authorities in a Western country had to shut down human interaction because of an Ebola epidemic, the economy would tank in such as way as to make the events of 2008 look mild.
All right, thanks a lot for clarifications about action starting after 7 pm.
I guess MPs are the only place to have some day time fun.
Nickc,
Thanks for your information.
Yeah, I agree that Rajah Hotel is the fastest and easiest way to fuck women of European race in Bangkok.
I am an East Asian living in East Asia.
I was far more excited and far more horny to see a normal-looking European grandma than to see a super-hot Asian young model.
My Bangkok trip ended up to be a joke in my life, which I am so embarrassed to report it on the Internet til now.
During my 7-day vacation in Bangkok, I fucked 10 European working women and 2 Thai working women totally. I was in Bangkok..
Thursday night was at Shock39 and then Bossy hunting for some gorgeous foreign pussy.
Was totally disappointed at both venues. The talent was of poor quality and nothing impressed me. Walked out empty handed.
Where have all the beauties gone? I used to be a regular at CM2 and the talent there was stunning!! Really miss the place.
Would appreciate any recent reports from Climax and Levels!
I think the risks are much much higher in airports such as Heathrow, Paris CDG or even Brussels. Someone infected but not yet showing any sign of this infection would pass unnoticed and unchallenged there and might die a few weeks later in the middle of rush hour on the Undergound or Metro.An infected sex worker could easily infect dozens of people. In turn those people could easily infect a number of other sex workers and the thing could quickly & easily snowball so that hundreds, even thousands, were indirectly infected by the aforementioned sex working individual.
Sexual activities are amongst the most dangerous for passing on this particular virus. Far more dangerous than an airplane ride or being at an airport.
Besides HIV, it's another reason to stay clear of African streetwalkers in Bangkok.
Wolvenvacht
10-19-14, 08:42
An infected sex worker could easily infect dozens of people. In turn those people could easily infect a number of other sex workers and the thing could quickly & easily snowball so that hundreds, even thousands, were indirectly infected by the aforementioned sex working individual.
Sexual activities are amongst the most dangerous for passing on this particular virus. Far more dangerous than an airplane ride or being at an airport.
Besides HIV, it's another reason to stay clear of African streetwalkers in Bangkok.It seems ebola-carriers are not contagious until they show the symptoms of the disease, so ebola is far less contagious than lots of other diseases. It takes about three weeks between "catching" it and showing the symptoms and for the majority of that period, you don't pass the virus on. The the disease kicks in and in a very short while you will be so ill that sex will be the last thing on your mind. If you read the reports, I see few if any mentioning ebola effectively being transmitted sexually.
On the average each ebola carrier infects only two other people, so "snowballing" from a single source is not likely.
Still, given ebola's lethality one should be careful.
It seems ebola-carriers are not contagious until they show the symptoms of the disease, so ebola is far less contagious than lots of other diseases. It takes about three weeks between "catching" it and showing the symptoms and for the majority of that period, you don't pass the virus on. The the disease kicks in and in a very short while you will be so ill that sex will be the last thing on your mind. If you read the reports, I see few if any mentioning ebola effectively being transmitted sexually.
On the average each ebola carrier infects only two other people, so "snowballing" from a single source is not likely.
Still, given ebola's lethality one should be careful.Ebola is transmitted by body fluids, which is the business of sex trade workers. So an infected sex trade worker is obviously not your average infected individual & far more dangerous in that regard.
Such body fluids as saliva, blood & semen etc can easily be transmitted via services such as DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc. Even the sweat that is produced during sexual humping is a risk for ebola infection via skin to skin contact.
It is being reported that ebola is fatal to some 70 percent of those infected. Relative to the HIV infected who via meds usually live a full lifespan, those who succumb to ebola die almost immediately & horribly.
The CDC states ebola can only be spread to others after symptoms begin, which can appear 2-21 days after exposure:
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html
So if a sex worker you are with is feeling a bit sick, a recent HIV infection may not be the only possibility.
It seems ebola-carriers are not contagious until they show the symptoms of the disease, so ebola is far less contagious than lots of other diseases. It takes about three weeks between "catching" it and showing the symptoms and for the majority of that period, you don't pass the virus on. The the disease kicks in and in a very short while you will be so ill that sex will be the last thing on your mind. If you read the reports, I see few if any mentioning ebola effectively being transmitted sexually.
On the average each ebola carrier infects only two other people, so "snowballing" from a single source is not likely.
Still, given ebola's lethality one should be careful.Fully agreeing. When it is contagious, through any body fluid, sex is far away of sight of neither the patient nor anyone aside him. The last thing one has in mind when at such stage.
The drama is useful for some industry.
Nickc,
Thanks for your information.
Yeah, I agree that Rajah Hotel is the fastest and easiest way to fuck women of European race in Bangkok.
I am an East Asian living in East Asia.
I was far more excited and far more horny to see a normal-looking European grandma than to see a super-hot Asian young model.
My Bangkok trip ended up to be a joke in my life, which I am so embarrassed to report it on the Internet til now.
During my 7-day vacation in Bangkok, I fucked 10 European working women and 2 Thai working women totally. I was in Bangkok. And I was looking for European working women desperately there.
I was paying 3000 Thai Baht (for Short time) to 7000 Thai Baht (for Long time) to have sex with normal-looking and sometimes mid-aged Russian / Ukrainian / Uzbekistan freelancers in Bangkok!
LOL! I still couldn't stop laughing at myself until now...Solo traveler,
The white woman at Raja are always and have always been 2600 be. If you dress rich, wear an expensive watch ext you will be charged more. I will be in Bangkok next week. I have found some of those European woman are very beautiful. But there service is shit. They hate their job. But, more than a few times I would pick one of those European woman and they would refuse to go with me. I assume maybe because they think I am Russian. I never understood that? If I was old and or fat I might understand. I guess I will never know.
Ebola is transmitted by body fluids, which is the business of sex trade workers. So an infected sex trade worker is obviously not your average infected individual & far more dangerous in that regard.
Such body fluids as saliva, blood & semen etc can easily be transmitted via services such as DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc. Even the sweat that is produced during sexual humping is a risk for ebola infection via skin to skin contact.
It is being reported that ebola is fatal to some 70 percent of those infected. Relative to the HIV infected who via meds usually live a full lifespan, those who succumb to ebola die almost immediately & horribly.
The CDC states ebola can only be spread to others after symptoms begin, which can appear 2-21 days after exposure:
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html
So if a sex worker you are with is feeling a bit sick, a recent HIV infection may not be the only possibility.Well, In Bangkok the black African hookers grew in number every year. They are very aggressive. They will grab your arm and not let go. If they were contagious this would not be in a good place to be. I personally like the black chicks and did find a couple hot ones before. But, I may not go with any this year to play extra safe.
Solo Traveler
11-02-14, 22:46
Bottom line, why come to BKK at all if Euro girls are your thingHi, Oliver,
You're right. That's why I said that my Bangkok trip was a joke. I was too stupid to plan my sex vacation in Bangkok.
Thailand is a place for mongers to fuck Thai girls, not European girls, obviously.
And you know what? I am also a fan of German FKK clubs! You can check out my previous posts in this forum. I went to FKK clubs around Frankfurt, Hessen. I like Sharks, Mainhattan, and World.
I had my sex vacations in Germany and Thailand in 2014.
I was in Frankfurt for 3 weeks in July, and in Bangkok for 1 week in August.
Here's some comparison.
Frankfurt & Bangkok are totally different.
I cannot compare them, because they are totally different.
The pay for play cultures are totally different. The price structures are totally different. The mongering process are totally different.
And most important of all, the women you will get are totally different!
In Frankfurt, the majority of the working women you'll get are of the European race.
In Bangkok, the majority of the working women you'll get are of the Asian race.
So, it's pretty easy to make a choice between Germany and Thailand, if you are a guy who gets tired of fucking women of your own race, and wants to have a taste of exotic women of other races whom you would only see on TV in normal life.
I am actually talking about myself. I am an East Asian living in East Asia.
I was far more excited and far more horny to see a normal-looking European grandma than to see a super-hot Asian model.
My Bangkok trip ended up to be a joke in my life, which I am so embarrassed to report it on the Internet til now.
During my 7-day vacation in Bangkok, I fucked 10 European working women and 2 Thai working women totally. I was in Bangkok, and I was looking for European working women desperately there. What a joke!
In sum, I think you really have to go to both places and experience both of them by yourself. This is the only way for you to tell which place is a more suitable sex vacation destination for you.
For me, who desire European girls, of course the most suitable destination is Germany!
Solo Traveler
11-03-14, 02:05
Solo traveler,The white woman at Raja are always and have always been 2600 be. If you dress rich, wear an expensive watch ext you will be charged more. I will be in Bangkok next week. I have found some of those European woman are very beautiful. But there service is shit. They hate their job. But, more than a few times I would pick one of those European woman and they would refuse to go with me. I assume maybe because they think I am Russian. I never understood that? If I was old and or fat I might understand. I guess I will never know.In brief summary, the European / Caucasian working women in Thailand are all second-classed hookers. You can't really expect quality or service from them.
The only reason that they can make some money in Thailand is that they are the exotic minorities there.
For example, if they go and work in a brothel in Germany, none of them will make any business because of their poor appearance or / and shitty service.
Like some members here had point out, Western Europe, especially the German-speaking countries as far as I know, are the best pay for play destinations for European / Caucasian flesh.
In Germany, I am able to fuck lots of good-looking, good attitude European / Caucasian women for 50 Euros (approximately 2000 Baht).
In Thailand, I always have to pay over 3000 Baht, and only to fuck some normal-looking, bad-attitude, second-classed ones.
Most important of all, let's not forget that people in Germany are almost 3 times richer than people in Thailand, and they can fuck their first-classed hookers for a even lower price.
Like I said in my other posts, this world is fucking insane and unfair.
I have to find a way to immigrate to Germany! LOL!
In Germany, I am able to fuck lots of good-looking, good attitude European / Caucasian women for 50 Euros (approximately 2000 Baht).
In Thailand, I always have to pay over 3000 Baht, and only to fuck some normal-looking, bad-attitude, second-classed ones.
Most important of all, let's not forget that people in Germany are almost 3 times richer than people in Thailand, and they can fuck their first-classed hookers for a even lower price.
Like I said in my other posts, this world is fucking insane and unfair.
I have to find a way to immigrate to Germany! LOL!I agree with that ST. Even for European mongers, they said that Germany is the best place in term of money / quality. For most scandinavian countries prostitution is illegal. Nederland is okay for weed, but if you go to RLD for pussies, you'll be dissapointed. Private houses (I have try Rotterdam, Amsterdam and Utrecht) sometimes have good, but mostly not many choices (quality). France'is too expensive, Italy difficult to get WG.
In Germany you can go to Spa / FKK, see women naked so you know their body exactly. Many choices of white women. And they have flat rate club, swinger / gangbang club etc. Also a lot of independent escorts, some with reasonable prices. All are legal.
The problem is I can go frequently, because go to Europe need a lot of money (airfare, hotels, food).
Just like SOlo Traveller, if thereany opportunity, we'll be glad to live in Germany.
In Germany, I am able to fuck lots of good-looking, good attitude European / Caucasian women for 50 Euros (approximately 2000 Baht).
In Thailand, I always have to pay over 3000 Baht, and only to fuck some normal-looking, bad-attitude, second-classed ones.In Pattaya & Bangkok, if you know where to go, you can get hot freelancers for 500 & 1000 baht.
In Singapore stunning PRC & Vietnam ladies for 50 & 25 USD.
In Hong Kong absolutely gorgeous white skinned ladies at similar rates.
Elsewhere in Asia even cheaper.
Solo Traveler
11-03-14, 11:31
The problem is I cannot go frequently, because going to Europe takes a lot of money (airfare, hotels, food).
Just like Solo Traveler, if there's any opportunity, we'll be glad to live in Germany.I am not talking about the extremes (rich people or poor people). I am talking about a normal middle class people.
My point is, if a monger is of the middle class in Thailand or Asia, he can barely afford mongering in his own country.
On the other hand, if a monger is of the middle class in Germany or Western Europe, he can easily afford mongering in his own country, like maybe going to the FKK club once a week.
That's exactly the unfair point is. But what can I say? It's the way it is.
By the way, as far as I know, Asian immigrants in Germany / Western Europe, are either of the upper class (very rich people, but very few) or the lower class (poor people who only get paid the minimum wages, which is the majority of the Asian immigrants over there).
It's very difficult for a middle-classed foreigner to go over there, "take" or "steal" one of their middle-classed jobs (We Asians were looked down upon and were described very badly by some of the Europeans, which I prefer to skip on the Internet), and then integrate into their society to be a middle class over there.
Anyway, I won't give up looking for possible ways to get there. I will be glad to be a middle class over there, despite the fact that I might be severely discriminated and hated by the local unemployed haters. LOL.
Solo Traveler
11-03-14, 16:47
In Pattaya & Bangkok, if you know where to go, you can get hot freelancers for 500 & 1000 baht.
In Singapore stunning PRC & Vietnam ladies for 50 & 25 USD.
In Hong Kong absolutely gorgeous white skinned ladies at similar rates.
Elsewhere in Asia even cheaper.PinkPear, thanks for your information.
However, Hbengkok and I were talking about working women who are of European descent.
I don't know whether it is politically correct to say things like these. Sorry if not.
We are Asians living in Asia, so we found women of European descent much more attractive and exotic than women of Asian descent. After all, there are not too many women of European descent in Asia.
By the same token, that's why most White guys went to Thailand and Asia, to have some exotic Asian women whom they don't see so often in their daily life in their own countries.
I guess, in North American English, there's a term for this, which is "Yellow Fever". A term usually applied to White males who have a clear sexual preference for women of Asian descent.
So, Hbengkok and I have "White Fever". We are Asian males who have a clear sexual preference for women of European descent. LOL.
Normally, in Asia, when people say "White women", they mean women of European descent (=Caucasian=Caucasoid=Europid). They doesn't really mean the color of the skin. For example, no matter how tanned a typical blonde-haired and blued-eyed Polish woman's skin color is, she is still considered a "White woman". No matter how pale a typical black-haired and black-eyed Thai woman's skin color is, she is still considered an "Asian woman".
In sum, some White guys have "Yellow Fever", and they even move or immigrate to Asian countries to solve this problem.
Hbengkok and I have "White Fever", and we're trying to solve this problem by moving or immigrating to European, North American, or Oceania countries to solve this problem. LOL.
Cheers
We are Asians living in Asia, so we found women of European descent much more attractive and exotic than women of Asian descent. After all, there are not too many women of European descent in Asia.
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Normally, in Asia, when people say "White women", they mean women of European descent (=Caucasian=Caucasoid=Europid). They doesn't really mean the color of the skin. For example, no matter how tanned a typical blonde-haired and blued-eyed Polish woman's skin color is, she is still considered a "White woman". No matter how pale a typical black-haired and black-eyed Thai woman's skin color is, she is still considered an "Asian woman".I wonder if you would have an interest in a female of "European descent" whom everyone would think is certainly Asian or black African based on her looks. Or a female born & living in Thailand all her life with one typically Thai looking parent, yet this female would be identified by all as being "European" in looks. Is it the "European descent" you're actually after or a particular European look, such as blue eyes & blond hair etc?
I have found the latter type of girl working the streets in BKK near NEP for 1000 baht. These half breeds, with one parent being European & the other parent Thai, are quite common in Thailand. Some of them look 100 percent of "European descent" while with others it may be a different figure such as 75,50 or 25 percent.
Personally I usually prefer a girl without the typical Asian black hair & eyes, often going for those with Euro red & variously coloured eyes, though I refer to those who are not naturally that way.
There have been reports of ladies of "Russian" descent working Beach Road in Pattaya. I'm not aware of what their asking or going prices are, but 500 & 1000 baht are often generally quoted for PFP in this location.
Or if price is not an issue, then in BKK perhaps two like these could be snagged & bagged for 10 K apiece ST:
https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10299081_707094049352742_671235265568778562_n.jpg
OTOH if you can get away to Ukraine or Moscow for a few weeks of a nonstop bangathon, there may be some value in that these days with those nations currencies dropping like a rock in the past 5 years, especially in the past 12 months.
Alternately the trip to Singapore from LOS would be faster & more economical, with the potential to find half breed Vietnam ladies in Geylang or the Four Floors of W. I imagine a large number of these can be found in Vietnam itself & various countries in Asia, if you know where to look or have the time to seek search & snoop.
Solo Traveler
11-04-14, 13:29
Hi, PinkPearl,
Thanks for your reply again.
However, you're making my original point more and more confusing and complicated. LOL.
Okay, let me explain it this way.
So, according to your previous post, you're from Canada, right?
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada), the population in Canada are like 76.7% White, 14.2% Asian, 4. 3% Aboriginal, etc.
The majority of the population in Canada are categorized as "White", which is exactly what I was talking about by saying "White women" or "women of European descent".
Therefore, I am looking for women who are of the same race / who have similar facial traits / who look like the majority of the population in Canada.
I hope this statement makes my point clear enough right now. LOL.
Yess, definitelly I got a white fever LOL.
It's true I can find mix / half blood in Thai or Singapore, but still more pure the sign of Arian (white pale, blue eyes, light blonde etc.), the better LOL.
Anyway this is just a personal preference, so I see no use to argue.
African girls are still standing upper Sukhumvit? And Russian can be seen at Subway?
Is there any area that is better or worse for africans? I prefer not to mingle with the street sleeping kind.
Went to see Rajah hotel around 8 PM. About 8 or 10 Uzbekis were sitting but none of them looked slim or attractive to me so walked to Grace. Things picked up in front og Grace after 10 PM, saw a very pretty lady in full Muslim hijab covering her head etc. Surprisingly she agreed for 1000 bahts in my hotel room in Sukumvit. Once in room she asked for money upfront, told her I don't do that but will make an exception in her case. Sure enough she undressed and asked to hurry up. Won't do BBBJ and refused lip kiss. Told her she can leave. Said she won't refund money, told her no problem. She can leave. She felt hurt. Spoke to her nicely and explained that sex without feelings is rubbish in my opinion. She smiled, wiped her lipstick and kissed like crazy. Was a very nice session. She had ultra smooth white skin. Flawless. Her rear view was stunning and worth the 1000 bahts alone. Session was very satisfactory.
Visited grace 2 other nights. Slim picking in the area on weekdays before 9 PM. Mostly fat Uzbek. But on one weekend, saw two of the most beautiful girls I saw during 10 day stay in Thailand. One Thai and one very fair complexioned Uzbek by name Mona. Seemed half Persian.
Overall the tourist season is down quite a bit so ladies numbers are also lower. Many agree to 1500 bahts easily now a days but service is nowhere as good as that of a spirited Thai lady. Did not see any pure white Russian chicks.
I live in BKK and sometimes I like to get some black girls, most of the SW will go with you from 1000-2000 the later the cheaper.
Had one freak with me the other day, she even wanted me to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in her mouth and she felt like a dirty girl also CIM and she was a 1000 B girl.
Almost all of them are from Uganda, the will say other places but only to cover up, as I Have been to Uganda then I start talk about I love the place and then the truth come out.
I have been with around +50 of them, and never had any problem, I just take them back to my condo and always pay in the end.
Almost all of them are from Uganda, the will say other places but only to cover up, as I Have been to Uganda then I start talk about I love the place and then the truth come out.
This is all I need to know about Ugandan prostitutes:
"HIV prevalence among female sex workers is 35 percent in 2011. ".
http://www.avert.org/hiv-aids-uganda.htm
FuckHead15
02-09-15, 06:21
I am expat living in a small little town of Mae sot. Anyone know where to go to get a good massage and
HE?
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