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Member #4585
11-10-18, 14:08
Yes, of course you can but some girls prefer their own for safety reasons. Others view it as saving them the cost of a rubber!Agreed. But may be a sunk cost now, ever since the Sharks club enforces a 5 euros tariff on the girls each day for condoms. So effectively the girls have already paid for the condoms.
The last part has been delayed for a week. I was waiting for my dream girl's permission to post it. She said OK yesterday.
Someone may have been tired of my tedious reports. This is the last part. Comments and questions are welcome.
Link to Part I.
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Lin to Part II.
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Recollection of the past, autumn 2018 FKK tour, Part III.
(continued)..Uff so much patience to write great job done bro liked your post keep writing.
She attends an educational university with an incredibly flexible study schedule allowing ample time for her to attend the Sharks institute for the provision of personal sexual services for money.I thought something similar when she told me she was going back to university. It's odd that her school starts in November. I do believe she has some higher level of education based on our conversations.
Arrived at 1130 am.
1) Ezra (or Estra): 1400-1500,100 E. Rom, 20 yo, B-cup, long dark blonde, fairly pretty, petite, 160 cm, bad teeth, one month at Sharks. In a room 3 min caressing, 22 min DATY with her intense O, another 15 min DATY with my five digits in her pussy, 5 min missionary, my 15 min massage on her. Repeat. In the past I have put my three fingers in the pussy of Ramona at Oase, four in Claudia at Oase, then five in Erza, almost fist sex.
2) Gianna: 1535-1625,100 E. Rom, 22 yo having a three-year-old son, A cup, long black hair, tanned, pretty, slim as model, 174 cm, two months at Sharks after Globe, basically no kiss with customers even at Globe! In a room 5 min caressing, 15 min DATY, another 10 min DATY with my two digits in her pussy with her intense O, 3 min cigarette break, 5 min BJ, 12 min missionary. Repeat.
3) Loretta: 1830-1930,100 E. Rom, 26 yo, slightly saggy B cup, long brunette, fairly pretty, slim, model, 165 cm, five months at Sharks, can kiss even for 30 min 50 E sessions. In a room caressing, 23 min DATY with her O, 2 min BJ, 3 min cowgirl, 2 min missionary, 3 min flat doggie, 13 min combination of miss and DATY, and my 15 min massage one her. May repeat..YamaYama,
I'm curious if you have some sort of FKK app on your smart watch or phone that allows you to keep such accurate times on your activities.
ExpatLover
11-10-18, 20:51
Agreed. But may be a sunk cost now, ever since the Sharks club enforces a 5 euros tariff on the girls each day for condoms. So effectively the girls have already paid for the condoms.The condoms they paid for are London, very difficult to get any feelings with them but still good enough for many mongers.
I did Claudia nine years ago at Oase. Nice that Claudia exhibits this old-school attitude. I like taller girls and even some MILFs. She deserves the good business. But she probably got 15+ guys because Sundays tend to have a higher percentage of value shoppers. You are one of the enlightened mongers that could go with 75 percent of the LU. For majority of the mongers, they won't be interested optically in Claudia. I do believe that Claudia tried to upsell 150 for 60 minute package (I believe it was reported by Turgid). He immediately negotiated her down. She happily accepted the offer, and gave good service, so there was a happy ending.......................For the record I never sessioned Claudia. I remember chatting with a skinny Brazilian last summer but I can't recall her name; she would have gladly done a half hour 50 E session with me but I spied more enticing quarry. I don't remember doing any 100 E sessions in Sharks, I won't say that I did not but I just can't recall any out of my dozens of sessions. Too lazy to check my summer posts.
YamaYama0519
11-10-18, 22:13
You were building up to fisting Ezra at Sharks ....Thanks for your comments about my reports, Bitumen. YY.
No meaning after cut, I meant Uncle posts are the most entertaining for me, much more than boring: I fuck her in all holes, not interesting for me, I don t need lessons about fucking, just matter of feeling and listening girl body.Hi Sirioja,
I know what you talked about. No worry. Thank you for comments to my reports.
One thing I would like to ask you. It seems that you always suggest good-looking girls to go to work at Globe Zurich. It would become a headache if one of my dream girls takes your insightful advice to move to Globe. For I could not afford to play games with three times price. LOL.
For example, I consider the 18 year-old Xenia, or Senja, is more pretty than Megan. If Megan survives in Globe, then Xenia wold. . . If Xenia went to Globe because of your suggestions, would you compensate me, if I follow her to Globe, for the difference of price between Sharks and Globe?
Just a joke.
Member #4585
11-11-18, 00:42
50 e was a tip from me because she was a very good.Good work Rikki90. You have a good heart. Thank you for the reply.
Member #4585
11-11-18, 00:43
YamaYama,
I'm curious if you have some sort of FKK app on your smart watch or phone that allows you to keep such accurate times on your activities.YamaYama, just takes notice of things and keeps attention.
Member #4585
11-11-18, 00:46
I thought something similar when she told me she was going back to university. It's odd that her school starts in November. I do believe she has some higher level of education based on our conversations.I am sorry Chongmal, that was meant to be a joke. The implication was she is not going to any educational facility.
The amount of girls who claim that they are at university using this job to support them and this story is untrue is beyond. You quiz them on a few things and they cannot answer or refuse to answer or change the subject.
TankTank123
11-11-18, 01:21
I am sorry Chongmal, that was meant to be a joke. The implication was she is not going to any educational facility.
The amount of girls who claim that they are at university using this job to support them and this story is untrue is beyond. You quiz them on a few things and they cannot answer or refuse to answer or change the subject.From what I gather from quite a few girls, there exists private 'Universities' in Romania which are considerably more expensive than the state-run ones. These have a totally flexible schedule. But the girls have to physically turn up at some location in Romania once or twice a year for just 1-2 weeks to take an 'examination'. This is so that the 'University' can truthfully assert that it has examined the student. How hard the examinations will be and how long it will take depends on the $$$$ paid. With $$$$$$$$ paid, it could be just a 2-day event. After 4 years, they get their 'diploma'. I have still not yet figured out though why they really want/need this piece of paper.
The accounts from these girls are quite consistent, so I suspect there is some truth there. Once I cheekily asked one girl whether, being so pretty and experienced in FKKs, she could pay in kind rather than in $$$$, and she said 'no', which was why she needed to make more $$$$ to fund her examiners, in addition to funding her apartment, sick mother, education of younger siblings, etc.
As for knowledge of subject matter, many of them (those who go back for 'studies' at unusual times of the year) know what the titles of the core modules are. I guess they should know this as payment would be attached to these titles. But once I give any indication that I might know something about these areas, most would as you say change the subject immediately.
There are some real university students though, but they appear only during the Christmas and Easter vacations for about 1-2 weeks each, and during the summer months, and these know their subjects in depth.
Hey Rikki, may you explain the price of 200 bucks for a half hour with anal butt fuck up Viorica's asshole?
The price for standard half hour is 50 bucks and the additional of anal ass sex is an additional 100 bucks making a total of 150 bucks. Was there also a CIM or COF ending as well to make 200 bucks or was that the tip for Viorica to make her happy?50 e was a tip because she make very good service.
I really recommend her.
Hi Sirioja,
I know what you talked about. No worry. Thank you for comments to my reports.
One thing I would like to ask you. It seems that you always suggest good-looking girls to go to work at Globe Zurich. It would become a headache if one of my dream girls takes your insightful advice to move to Globe. For I could not afford to play games with three times price. LOL.
For example, I consider the 18 year-old Xenia, or Senja, is more pretty than Megan. If Megan survives in Globe, then Xenia wold. . . If Xenia went to Globe because of your suggestions, would you compensate me, if I follow her to Globe, for the difference of price between Sharks and Globe?
Just a joke.When I find " about fucking" reports not interesting and boring, I don t care what other do for sex, only Yam makes me laugh, I hope he tastes or touch with fingers to be sure, rather than moaning, sometimes you stop licking her and some girls keep on moaning, so have to ask to turn off sound. German superstar at Globe became very silent looking at me like scared when her whole body was shaking. Sometimes liquid on the bed. But I prefer stories between girls and boys, white on a day, black on the next, sometimes becoming white again few months later, FKK game you have to deal with, among bullshits and jealousy.
About Globe, I followed Katalina at Globe and what a welcome from her on first time she saw me before I recognized her new look, saying: I remember how you treated me at Sharks, for our single 2 hours 2 rounds room when I was so exhausted, when she didn't like Sharks business. When Megan knew I was going to Globe, she asked me about, she didn't like everything for 50 € business at Sharks, why she turned to Asian business when she was not at all on this business when she started. Very difficult start for her at Globe, she was refused on her first time and returned to Sharks, then she started in reserve team, meaning working when not enough girls. If You ask Globe management about Megan and Svenja beauty, no comparison, Megan is a model type, Svenja just a cute GND even very friendly and enthusiastic in room, but not impressive enough to get business at Globe. Girls at Globe have much more impressive and sophisticated look than at Sharks and on average much more woman behavior in bed, why do you want I pay 130/30 mn rather than 50? I'm not Asian. On the September day I discovered Svenja I was advised by a Swiss I also meet at Globe, among a really low casting and Leoni. De saying not kissing, so not for me, we both told her she is not on Globe level, for her body care, lack of sensuality, not a woman yet, but she is only 18 yo, this is not not normal. Megan, even sometimes busy, the only one who run after Asians as she learned to survive at Sharks, is not a top star at Globe, but I m happy for her she makes her business and better for her private life. As she told me: my advice was excellent, to thank her for dreams in daylight. But I didn't drive her.
ExpatLover
11-11-18, 07:06
From what I gather from quite a few girls, there exists private 'Universities' in Romania which are considerably more expensive than the state-run ones. These have a totally flexible schedule. But the girls have to physically turn up at some location in Romania once or twice a year for just 1-2 weeks to take an 'examination'. This is so that the 'University' can truthfully assert that it has examined the student. How hard the examinations will be and how long it will take depends on the $$$$ paid. With $$$$$$$$ paid, it could be just a 2-day event. After 4 years, they get their 'diploma'. I have still not yet figured out though why they really want/need this piece of paper.
The accounts from these girls are quite consistent, so I suspect there is some truth there. Once I cheekily asked one girl whether, being so pretty and experienced in FKKs, she could pay in kind rather than in $$$$, and she said 'no', which was why she needed to make more $$$$ to fund her examiners, in addition to funding her apartment, sick mother, education of younger siblings, etc..Sorry it is a legend, Romania is part of Europe and the diploma have a value, very few real students in clubs but it is also true that very occasionally there will be a real student in a club during summer holiday, you just need to check my comments with the top managers of the clubs they will confirm my thoughts.
YamaYama0519
11-11-18, 07:13
YamaYama, I'm curious if you have some sort of FKK app on your smart watch or phone that allows you to keep such accurate times on your activities.No so smart, I've got an old-fashioned chronograph with me.
Clearly, this is part of the illusion. So simply enjoy it.
The amount of girls who claim that they are at university using this job to support them and this story is untrue is beyond. You quiz them on a few things and they cannot answer or refuse to answer or change the subject.
Clearly, this is part of the illusion. So simply enjoy it.That is what I did when they told me that they were working on their college degree or master degree.
Member #4585
11-11-18, 12:29
As for knowledge of subject matter, many of them (those who go back for 'studies' at unusual times of the year) know what the titles of the core modules are. I guess they should know this as payment would be attached to these titles. But once I give any indication that I might know something about these areas, most would as you say change the subject immediately.If these "educational institutions" are handing out diplomas based on how much money the girls spend then I will definitely not be interested in recruiting any Romanians to go along with the other Europeans working. Really. Commonsense.
I keep getting told that the girl missed the deadline for matriculation for a class so hence they are working the period before they can matriculate again. But that seems to happen for like 3 to 4 years in a row. They always seem to forget to complete the registration and starting to attend class process.
There are some real university students though, but they appear only during the Christmas and Easter vacations for about 1-2 weeks each, and during the summer months, and these know their subjects in depth. So this is really good that the German license laws are efficient and quick to complete.
These working girls to work temporarily in a FKK or brothel can book an appointment at the police station or registrar and then go in to get a photo licence, attend a class on the bad ways of prostitution, go to see the local nurse to be taught how to use a condom seems to be a really quick process and it is worth the hefty registration fee to do this. All this effort to work for the 1 to 2 weeks during the school holidays to make some cash. I guess its worth it to do that coming from Romania and you have time to sit around waiting for all these appointments to happen to get your licence. Even for local German girls too. Ho will be pleased to know this.
Member #4585
11-11-18, 12:43
One thing I would like to ask you. It seems that you always suggest good-looking girls to go to work at Globe Zurich. It would become a headache if one of my dream girls takes your insightful advice to move to Globe. For I could not afford to play games with three times price. LOL.
Just a joke.Never fear Unca Ox, the rules and regulations of working at Globe are very strict that you find many of the girls who have problems adhering to a work schedule or to rules find it very difficult to continue to work at Globe and therefore come back to what they know which is Germany (or Spain).
YamaYama, just takes notice of things and keeps attention.LOL, the fact you say Chronograph means a bit more to some than others. I rarely take my chronograph to clubs because it draws too much attention and raises expectations beyond my comfort level. I've only intentionally taken it to clubs twice, both times to show women how illogical it is to buy such a chronograph unless you have money to burn. Also, the weight of such a device can be uncomfortable to many. In most cases I use my watch in the clubs but places like Sharks and YY make this less convenient.
I've been considering wearing my Ironman digital with stop watch and lap split option. This way I hit the split at the start of each new activity and then I only need to remember the sequence of activities. So when I start reporting 29 m43's session times with 3 m22's DFK, 5 m47's DATY, etc. You know that I've made the switch. My problem is more an age thing. My memory often fails me and my sessions may be easier tracked on a sundial and calendar.
I am sorry Chongmal, that was meant to be a joke. The implication was she is not going to any educational facility.
The amount of girls who claim that they are at university using this job to support them and this story is untrue is beyond. You quiz them on a few things and they cannot answer or refuse to answer or change the subject.No reason to apologize, I have no reason to be offended. I have interacted with Scarlet a few times across two days. From our conversations it's clear she has at a minimum read some books on her hobby.
TankTank123
11-11-18, 13:50
So this is really good that the German license laws are efficient and quick to complete.
These working girls to work temporarily in a FKK or brothel can book an appointment at the police station or registrar and then go in to get a photo licence, attend a class on the bad ways of prostitution, go to see the local nurse to be taught how to use a condom seems to be a really quick process and it is worth the hefty registration fee to do this. All this effort to work for the 1 to 2 weeks during the school holidays to make some cash. I guess its worth it to do that coming from Romania and you have time to sit around waiting for all these appointments to happen to get your licence. The 2 such girls I know faced a somewhat different situation. Both had already been working in Germany before, so their deadline to get registered was 31st December 2017 rather than 30th June 2017.
The 2 girls came back during their Easter vacation in April 2018, went to the police station and was told that their appointment to register would be more than 1 month later, but that they could work in the FKK as long as they had made an appointment (since they produced evidence that they had worked in that FKK before). However, as they had to return to Romania after their Easter vacation, they subsequently postponed their appointment date to July. During their summer vacation in July, they duly came back and spent an afternoon to fill up some forms that took 10 minutes, with the rest of the time in that afternoon getting briefed on how to put on a condom by a woman who they said sounded very uncertain on how to put a condom safely on. So, downtime was just 1 afternoon.
Hi,
I had a good time with "Jill" a month ago.
26 year old and from German with short hair, does she still work?
Have you seen anyone. Could you give me some information about her?
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Monger Longer
11-11-18, 16:46
My only opportunity to swing into Sharks for several months will be on Sunday, December 23. This presents two possible problems: Sunday and the day before Christmas Eve. What do you think it's going to look like in there? I could maybe possibly try to swing back by during the week between Christmas and NYE if that would make a significant difference in the LU, but it's not ideal.
My trip there last July was great and I live in a particularly conservative part of my country where the women are mostly cows with bad attitudes, so I'm sure I could find someone who meets my standard as long as there are more than a handful of girls there.
ExpatLover
11-11-18, 19:16
If these "educational institutions" are handing out diplomas based on how much money the girls spend then I will definitely not be interested in recruiting any Romanians to go along with the other Europeans working. Really. Commonsense.
I keep getting told that the girl missed the deadline for matriculation for a class so hence they are working the period before they can matriculate again. But that seems to happen for like 3 to 4 years in a row. They always seem to forget to complete the registration and starting to attend class process.
So this is really good that the German license laws are efficient and quick to complete.
These working girls to work temporarily in a FKK or brothel can book an appointment at the police station or registrar and then go in to get a photo licence, attend a class on the bad ways of prostitution, go to see the local nurse to be taught how to use a condom seems to be a really quick process and it is worth the hefty registration fee to do this. All this effort to work for the 1 to 2 weeks during the school holidays to make some cash. I guess its worth it to do that coming from Romania and you have time to sit around waiting for all these appointments to happen to get your licence. Even for local German girls too. Ho will be pleased to know this.Not so easy, don't believe that all the girls are free to be prostitute, to suck and fuck every guys is not a normal job and the consequences can be serious for the mental health. Also to register they need a fix address.
I was at Sharks and was happy.
Lots of good looking girls working there and prices went up as many girls want 100 euro, they offer kisses but most only gives LDK! This is not really a kiss IMO.
Anyways. I met with Jaz who sits on sofa under the stairs to the Jacuzi, she is Moldavian and I like her. Good service and I enjoyed my time with her, she promised kisses but in room only LFK, she didn't demand for 100 euro so I give her 50/30 min.
I also met Scarlet. Good services but nothing special.
Met few other which included Serena, Alexandra, Erica and Tami.
Mona was the best in this trip. I knew her from previous trips and she is high service provider and cute.
Sadly I didn't see my Super star girl (Betty).
Her friends told me she is in Romania, I don't know if they are telling the truth but they said she will return!
Nick The G
11-11-18, 23:45
Your comment wasn't directed at me but I have a couple questions. Do you think it helps if someone posts a larger lineup list? I'm curious because I do this occasionally for another club that I frequent.
I think if I were to spent four weekends in Sharks my list of names would be 60-80 long. It's more difficult with so many women buzzing rapidly around your head all day and not being able to have my phone with me to take notes and check them off as I've seen them.Those lists don't really help. Because the most important thing is how "chemistry" works between us and the women we meet. On that very day we are there in the club! The only thing that helps is awareness in every situation. Of who you are, what you want and what you don't want!
So, stay in contact with your feelings, widen your awareness and define what is important for you when you meet women. And forget about thought fucking (line-up lists!) when you are far away from these clubs.
The further one is away from these brothels or FKK-clubs, the more those lists grow into importance as substitue for the life not lived where one is right now. As long as we read lists that someone else has posted, we are not there in the club! And we always read about the past! Who wants yesterday's papers? Life is now!
Better let's stay centered within ourselves! No need to create a center of attraction outside ourselves, e. G. Let's not make one or more prostitute (s) the center of our hopes or life!
Too much time spent in internet is bad for joy in life, true in FKK clubs too.
For those who are afraid that there are not enough women there, on this weekend there were far more than 150 women in the club per night, some women even said there were more than 200 working girls there!
ExpatLover
11-12-18, 02:03
Those lists don't really help. Because the most important thing is how "chemistry" works between us and the women we meet. On that very day we are there in the club! The only thing that helps is awareness in every situation. Of who you are, what you want and what you don't want!
So, stay in contact with your feelings, widen your awareness and define what is important for you when you meet women. And forget about thought fucking (line-up lists!) when you are far away from these clubs.
The further one is away from these brothels or FKK-clubs, the more those lists grow into importance as substitue for the life not lived where one is right now. As long as we read lists that someone else has posted, we are not there in the club! And we always read about the past! Who wants yesterday's papers? Life is now!
Better let's stay centered within ourselves! No need to create a center of attraction outside ourselves, e. G. Let's not make one or more prostitute (s) the center of our hopes or life!
Too much time spent in internet is bad for joy in life, true in FKK clubs too.
For those who are afraid that there are not enough women there, on this weekend there were far more than 150 women in the club per night, some women even said there were more than 200 working girls there!Fully online with you, like fisherman or hunter (my fish was 1 meter long, my deer two meters high) some mongers are emphasizing their own experiences with the girls.
Those lists don't really help. Because the most important thing is how "chemistry" works between us and the women we meet. As long as we read lists that someone else has posted, we are not there in the club! And we always read about the past! Who wants yesterday's papers? Life is now!
I'm afraid you can wax lyrical all day Nick. For some of us, we like the lists. They can inform who appears to have great chemistry outside the room but gives poor service in it. When mongering, yesterdays papers are very important to some of us.
The further one is away from these brothels or FKK-clubs, the more those lists grow into importance as substitue for the life not lived where one is right now. As long as we read lists that someone else has posted, we are not there in the club! And we always read about the past! Who wants yesterday's papers? Life is now!.That's one perspective of someone who does not have to travel. Living far away but coming somewhat regularly, lists are very informative. When you know how long some girls typically work before getting tired and knowing how long their breaks are, I can predict with some dependable certainty if a girl will be working when I plan on being there. Will she be fresh when I arrive or will she be worn out and at the end of a 2 month working marathon. This helps me plan my 2 week trips helping me to decide if I want to prioritize hitting Hessen immediately or NRW first. Is it worth it for me to visit a certain club if I know a girl is sexed out? Maybe a girl has been gone so I know she will be back soon and fresh.
PokerWiesBaden
11-12-18, 04:50
Sadly I didn't see my Super star girl (Betty).
Her friends told me she is in Romania, I don't know if they are telling the truth but they said she will return!If betty is your superstar, then just ask her for whatsapp or fb.
Then you always know when she will be working.
PokerWiesBaden
11-12-18, 04:58
My only opportunity to swing into Sharks for several months will be on Sunday, December 23. This presents two possible problems: Sunday and the day before Christmas Eve. What do you think it's going to look like in there? I could maybe possibly try to swing back by during the week between Christmas and NYE if that would make a significant difference in the LU, but it's not ideal.
My trip there last July was great and I live in a particularly conservative part of my country where the women are mostly cows with bad attitudes, so I'm sure I could find someone who meets my standard as long as there are more than a handful of girls there.Compare Christmas lineup and now, then the Christmas lineup will be pretty poor.
But compare the Christmas lineup with other FKK club during the Christmas time, then its probably the best.
Sharks offers the girls special Christmas bonus, to keep the lineup at high level.
Last Friday some girls said, there was over 300 !! Working girls in club. Truth or not.
Fact is that all girl lockers were occupied.
Both Nick and Takedown have valid points, but to add to the discussion here, I think the main reason people want these lists when being physically far away, is to feel like they are in some sort of control over the situation, and take ownership over their coming trip. After the first few visits of scouting a new club, most people probably want to know how much things have changed, and that level of newness can be considered both good at bad, but for alternating purposes, or depending on the mind of the traveller. It is a mental and psychological issue, and has less to do with the actual usage.
This probably has more to do with psychoanalysis than anything else. And as in most psychoanalysis, there is rarely a clear right or wrong.
Those lists don't really help. Because the most important thing is how "chemistry" works between us and the women we meet. On that very day we are there in the club! The only thing that helps is awareness in every situation. Of who you are, what you want and what you don't want!
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If you don't like the lineup lists, then just ignore it.
A lot people find them helpful, including me.
There are lots of posts, which I find them useless, but for others might help.
Hey guys,
Anyone know if Brenda is still around? Thinking of stopping by Sharks later this week for some DD action.
Thanks. Howie.
Hey guys,
Anyone know if Brenda is still around? Thinking of stopping by Sharks later this week for some DD action.
Thanks. Howie.She was seen two days ago according to a line-up list on another forum.
Nick The G
11-12-18, 13:33
Hey guys,
Anyone know if Brenda is still around? Thinking of stopping by Sharks later this week for some DD action.
Thanks. Howie.Brenda was there on this weekend.
Hi all,
Lurking on this forum for quite a long time. Thank you so much for sharing information and advice.
I will be at Sharks from Nov 18-21. Want to check out Mandy, Jazz, Kimberly, pussy Rom girl, etc. If you are around and want to talk between sessions, PM me. I am Asian and will be wearing the black-rimmed glasses.
Kosher Kowboy
11-12-18, 17:34
Both Nick and Takedown have valid points, but to add to the discussion here,I agree both have valid points as do you but my take on it is fuck those lists. Yes I had a list in the RLD for my latest ventures but that list was for different reasons. It is nice to read the names but if I didn't know from other websites and research elsewhere and judged by just posts here I would have thought Sharks had only 10-15 girls on the floor and Mandy and Evita racking up 99 percent of the business just based on reviews and discussions back in 2016-17. Yet there is so much more and so many different types which is why I monger and I think picking your own prey is half the fun and a gamble perhaps as to service. Let the dice roll. One man's cup of tea might not be mine and my cup of tea (at least some of them) others would never drink nor touch the cup for that matter. It is nice to have an idea and maybe hit one but very few of the top Sharks (Pole Dancers as a group) reviewed did it for me and general population usually houses my choices. There are 60 plus girls ready to fuck for a reason and if we all fucked off the same list we might all be fucking ourselves ( and worse perhaps missing out on the ' perfect' pick for you) with wait times for a girl that we read was ' this or that' for another man, not us and as one girl told me ' you guy's are like snowflakes, no two alike'.
I tend to lean to Nick's train of though even though like Takedown I am a tourist but he likes to use one or have one at his disposal as that system works for him so I wouldn't argue it won't bit.
That being said although I personally find lists useless in these clubs I think the information from the board guys use to make those lists is vital (for some) and it spurns discussions be it about that girl or some kind of a tangent subject so all for the posts, the more the merrier as we all use the board to suit our needs.
Hey guys,
Anyone know if Brenda is still around? Thinking of stopping by Sharks later this week for some DD action.
Thanks. Howie.Dungeons and Dragons with Brenda? That sounds super fun. Speaking of Brenda, someone posted that there was a Brenda look alike at Oase. I want to confirm the girl they spoke about was no Brenda. That girl had a soft belly and large tits that drooped down. Brenda's a unicorn.
ExpatLover
11-12-18, 18:26
Hey guys,
Anyone know if Brenda is still around? Thinking of stopping by Sharks later this week for some DD action.
Thanks. Howie.You must like sagging boobs, clean girl but 0 chemistry with me.
Hence just keep the lists coming without criticism. Enough people have voiced their opinions that they find them useful. Why are people still criticizing? Thanks again to those who publish. Many here appreciate the info despite others thinking that there is a correct way to monger.
I agree both have valid points as do you but my take on it is fuck those lists. Yes I had a list in the RLD for my latest ventures but that list was for different reasons. It is nice to read the names but if I didn't know from other websites and research elsewhere and judged by just posts here I would have thought Sharks had only 10-15 girls on the floor and Mandy and Evita racking up 99 percent of the business just based on reviews and discussions back in 2016-17. Yet there is so much more and so many different types which is why I monger and I think picking your own prey is half the fun and a gamble perhaps as to service. Let the dice roll. One man's cup of tea might not be mine and my cup of tea (at least some of them) others would never drink nor touch the cup for that matter. It is nice to have an idea and maybe hit one but very few of the top Sharks (Pole Dancers as a group) reviewed did it for me and general population usually houses my choices. There are 60 plus girls ready to fuck for a reason and if we all fucked off the same list we might all be fucking ourselves ( and worse perhaps missing out on the ' perfect' pick for you) with wait times for a girl that we read was ' this or that' for another man, not us and as one girl told me ' you guy's are like snowflakes, no two alike'..
Member #4585
11-12-18, 21:56
If betty is your superstar, then just ask her for whatsapp or fb.
Then you always know when she will be working.You must be luckier than others to receive Betty's Whatsapp or Facebook. Some are required to complete heavy investment in Betty's financial demands to be honored with those digits.
Member #4585
11-12-18, 22:19
The 2 such girls I know faced a somewhat different situation. Both had already been working in Germany before, so their deadline to get registered was 31st December 2017 rather than 30th June 2017.
The 2 girls came back during their Easter vacation in April 2018, went to the police station and was told that their appointment to register would be more than 1 month later, but that they could work in the FKK as long as they had made an appointment (since they produced evidence that they had worked in that FKK before). However, as they had to return to Romania after their Easter vacation, they subsequently postponed their appointment date to July. During their summer vacation in July, they duly came back and spent an afternoon to fill up some forms that took 10 minutes, with the rest of the time in that afternoon getting briefed on how to put on a condom by a woman who they said sounded very uncertain on how to put a condom safely on. So, downtime was just 1 afternoon.Well that is good for the freelancers that come in from the East that have worked in Germany before. They can continue to work now having registered.
Is this also the case too that new girls can work in the club without a licence who are brand new to Germany which is what Ho was after. From what you are saying, and correct me, it seems that new girls who cannot prove that they have worked in Germany clubs or brothels before cannot provisionally work in a club until they have become registered with the authorities. The implication of this is that there will be a delay with new girls starting up creating a barrier to new girls working since they cannot just turn up on the day to start working. So we expect to see fewer and fewer of the short term freelancers making this a more professional vocation along the lines of other industries that require registration, training and payment of fees to be a member.
Kosher Kowboy
11-12-18, 22:30
Hence just keep the lists coming without criticism. Enough people have voiced their opinions that they find them useful. Why are people still criticizing? Thanks again to those who publish. Many here appreciate the info despite others thinking that there is a correct way to monger.By all means keep them coming, as I said some find them useful.
I tend to lean to Nick's train of though even though like Takedown I am a tourist but he likes to use one or have one at his disposal as that system works for him so I wouldn't argue it won't bit.
That being said although I personally find lists useless in these clubs I think the information from the board guys use to make those lists is vital (for some) and it spurns discussions be it about that girl or some kind of a tangent subject so all for the posts, the more the merrier as we all use the board to suit our needs.Like I said above some like to have that at their disposal as it works for them. The correct way to monger is to do what works for oneself.
I do not think anyone is criticizing lists nor arguing against posting lists as I stated above I personally find them useless yet think the information is vital (for some) . And I am happy for them if they make use of the lists.
So no one is discouraging these lists unless other posts out there are suggesting such. I'm just saying for me, not needed. I am going to go to the club anyway as my dates are set way in advance. Whatever LU is present is present. I am not in a position to pick and choose my days or girls based on any listed LU's. Also, if a girl is working on Sunday's list and I am going Wednesday it tells me nothing it would be like on Wednesday buying Sunday's newspaper. All I can do is show up and find out.
I'll look at lists or lineups out of curiosity but when it comes time to pick and choose the club to go to or the girl to fuck no lists needed. I'll take and choose from what is in front of me.
Member #4585
11-12-18, 22:41
my take on it is fuck those lists.
I tend to lean to Nick's train of though
I personally find lists uselessI take a different view adamantly to you.
I support with whole heart the posting of working girl line up lists. Like some, the girl line up lists are one of the most useful pieces of information to be found on this forum.
I do not find the common sense in guys writing that they do not find the girl line up lists as useful.
I am sure the reality is when someone bravely issues a working girl line up lists that everyone who reads will run their eye down that list to see if a particular girl is there, whether she is a pet love or a pet hate or just an idea of how many girls are there. Everyone takes a peek, even secretly at those line up lists.
There are numerous occasions of guys asking how big is the number in a line up, or asking if such and such working at the club right now. Even on this page alone, we have Howie asking if Brenda is working at Sharks. If someone had posted a comprehensive line up list then we would have answered Howie's question as an example of the usefulness of line up lists.
Guys may come only once a year, or even 100 times a year, I think its comforting for both to know if a girl they remember is there. It is their method when away from the clubs to vicariously get a thrill that a girl they know is still around.
Girl line up lists satisfy these requests or at least generates discussion which is the life blood of these forums. Lists, as such, are useful to all.
I do not think anyone is criticizing lists nor arguing against posting lists as I stated above I personally find them useless yet think the information is vital (for some) . And I am happy for them if they make use of the lists.
So no one is discouraging these lists unless other posts out there are suggesting such.
Those lists don't really help. Because the most important thing is how "chemistry" works between us and the women we meet. On that very day we are there in the club! The only thing that helps is awareness in every situation. Of who you are, what you want and what you don't want!
The further one is away from these brothels or FKK-clubs, the more those lists grow into importance as substitue for the life not lived where one is right now.Some kinda did while belittling people who appreciate them and fly in mongers at the same time.
Kosher Kowboy
11-12-18, 23:03
I take a different view adamantly to you.
I support with whole heart the posting of working girl line up lists. Like some, the girl line up lists are one of the most useful pieces of information to be found on this forum.
I do not find the common sense in guys writing that they do not find the girl line up lists as useful.
Everyone takes a peek, even secretly at those line up lists.
There are numerous occasions of guys asking how big is the number in a line up, or asking if such and such working at the club right now. Even on this page alone, we have Howie asking if Brenda is working at Sharks. If someone had posted a comprehensive line up list then we would have answered Howie's question as an example of the usefulness of line up lists.
Guys may come only once a year, or even 100 times a year, I think its comforting for both to know if a girl they remember is there. See me reply to TD, I too support these megaclub LU lists. I just don't use them to make decisions but that is simply me. I am not judging those who do. I will confess, I take a peak at the Gypsy LUs but by that same token when I go to Day Care I will go without concern of the previous days or even that days LU as I have no choice. It is my ' assigned' day. I fuck who is there.
You are right in Howie's example, had a LU been posted Howie would know Brenda was working. In that sense useful for Howie. Now come a week later when Howie lands in Frankfurt and heads to Sharks there is a chance Brenda may not be there. So I guess yes helpful in the fact he knows Brenda is working at Sharks but hopefully one doesn't plan off an old list as the day of arrival that girl may not be there.
I just do not use these LU lists to decide to go to a club or not. If others do, great. We all have our own styles, whatever works..
We all have our own opinions, thanks for disagreeing and by the way.
Welcome back :D
See me reply to TD, I too support these megaclub LU lists. I just don't use them to make decisions but that is simply me. I am not judging those who do. I will confess, I take a peak at the Gypsy LUs but by that same token when I go to Day Care I will go without concern of the previous days or even that days LU as I have no choice. It is my ' assigned' day. I fuck who is there.
You make good points in previous posts. But like I've maintained, you are quite unique for a fly-in-tourist, in that you find 75 percent of the LU optically acceptable. Most others are extremely "fussy" as Syzygies, one of the older list maintainers, used to say. Some mongers dismiss 97 percent of the LU, by just making two laps around the club, without needing to speak to a single WG.
With the example about Howie asking about Brenda. It seems to be more common that a poster will generally rattle the names of three WGs, like "I will be at Sharks for three days next week. Has anyone seen Brenda, Kadi, or Annika this week?" If they are all in this week, it is improbable that all three will be missing next week.
BarryManila
11-13-18, 05:28
Last Friday some girls said, there was over 300 !! Working girls in club. Truth or not.
Fact is that all girl lockers were occupied.Rubbish! Around 150 to 160 girls last Friday. That's a lot anyway.
There are only 165 lockers for the girls.
See me reply to TD, I too support these megaclub LU lists. I just don't use them to make decisions but that is simply me. I am not judging those who do. I will confess, I take a peak at the Gypsy LUs but by that same token when I go to Day Care I will go without concern of the previous days or even that days LU as I have no choice. It is my ' assigned' day. I fuck who is there.
You are right in Howie's example, had a LU been posted Howie would know Brenda was working. In that sense useful for Howie. Now come a week later when Howie lands in Frankfurt and heads to Sharks there is a chance Brenda may not be there. So I guess yes helpful in the fact he knows Brenda is working at Sharks but hopefully one doesn't plan off an old list as the day of arrival that girl may not be there.Thank you and Peace to everyone who responded to my initial question, "do you think line-up lists are useful". The question came up when NickTheG noticed PokerWiesBaden had borrowed heavily from a line-up list on LustScout without indicating where the basis of the list originated. The fact that NickTheG recognized the similarity between the two lists means to me that even he at a minimum glances at the list posted on the other forum.
I still don't understand the animosity that I perceive in some of the exchanges back and forth. Perhaps because I don't read the Sharks forum or attend Sharks so often as I'm more often in NRW clubs.
My decision following all the feedback is that I will continue to occasionally publish a line-up for my regular club under their thread. I openly invite anyone else who wants to use it as the basis for a line-up for any other forum to do so. I offer this to the benefit of my fellow mongers to use how they wish. I will leave posting of the comprehensive line-up at Sharks to one of the local mongers who attends there regularly, perhaps someone who reads multiple forums regularly can ask to borrow their list as a starting point.
I'm happy to have discussions with anyone if we happen to meet in any club. If we are on my turf, we can discuss the habits of the ladies to help you decide who might be right for you. I recently met a fellow Icebear, who is normally found in the Frankfurt Area clubs, in a NRW club. After.
I discussion, he chose a lady I had provided input on and was off to the room. I didn't get the chance to catch up with him afterwards, but I hope that he enjoyed his time in NRW.
As diverse as we are, we all have at least one thing in common, we enjoy the talents of women we meet in Germany and around the world. Happy hunting.
Rubbish! Around 150 to 160 girls last Friday. That's a lot anyway.
There are only 165 lockers for the girls.This is from the German board: "It was in my opinion too much! A woman who has been at the Sharks for some time, told me after midnight the number of 230 CDL's for yesterday's Friday! Accordingly, many sat together for hours unoccupied, babbled and smoked, the sales of cigarettes must have been violent. The battle for the until 22 o'clock in my opinion a few Asians burned violently."
Rubbish! Around 150 to 160 girls last Friday. That's a lot anyway.
There are only 165 lockers for the girls.300 ? Without drinking and seeing double, 150 girls? Too many for me to fuck them all, but how many desirable for look, elegance, and manners, to be motivated to spend money?
Were there enough motivated guys to give business to so many girls, mostly GND, some now asking 100 minimum?
Low casting on my last visit on September, but things can always change? When casting was good on mid June, with no upselling experienced on my 5 days on 2 week ends for my so fast left, top class Romanian, 25 yo beauty.
Member #4581
11-13-18, 14:25
If LU lists are useless, then by extension trip reports are also useless, no? If John writes that Lisa kissed him, Debbie licked his balls, but Lexi did not suck his dick well, there is no guarantee when Greg visits the club the following week that Lisa will kiss him also, Debbie will lick his balls, that Lexi will suck his dick well or poorly. Or that any of the girls will even be there.
Ergo, should we stop writing reviews here? Chemistry is everything, and reviews are last week's news as we all know. What's the point?
Perhaps we can jettison all LU lists and reviews and focus just on Ho's master race people shaving their arseholes in the right squatting position, after we first go through his tutorials on "proper techniques to jerk off at home".
Seems really weird that a monger would not want a visitor to the club to post a LU list.
BigBuddy69
11-13-18, 14:59
Perhaps we can jettison all LU lists and reviews and focus just on Ho's master race people shaving their arseholes in the right squatting position, after we first go through his tutorials on "proper techniques to jerk off at home".LOL! I personally find lu listings and reviews useful. I take most of the reviews with a grain of salt but I know some people here who are trustworthy and who know what good service means.
Kosher Kowboy
11-13-18, 15:07
Seems really weird that a monger would not want a visitor to the club to post a LU list.
I do not think ( at least myself) that lists should not be published nor discouraged, I have yet to see that anywhere in my posts. Saying lists aren't used by them and saying lists should be banned/discouraged are not the same thing ( not even close) , nor should words be twisted to imply such. Lists are great for some but once in a club a long list posted in a public forum for me is not very useful what is useful once in a club is my eyes, my ears and my gut feelings and for me the thrill of picking ( or being hunted) by many a girl, tons not on any lists.. IMHO
and hopefully interpreted respectfully
If LU lists are useless, then by extension trip reports are also useless, no? If John writes that Lisa kissed him, Debbie licked his balls, but Lexi did not suck his dick well, there is no guarantee when Greg visits the club the following week that Lisa will kiss him also, Debbie will lick his balls, that Lexi will suck his dick well or poorly. Or that any of the girls will even be there.
Ergo, should we stop writing reviews here? Chemistry is everything, and reviews are last week's news as we all know. What's the point?
Perhaps we can jettison all LU lists and reviews and focus just on Ho's master race people shaving their arseholes in the right squatting position, after we first go through his tutorials on "proper techniques to jerk off at home".I don't think anyone should stop writing reviews / trip report's or LU lists. They serve their purposes to others, others can pick and choose from all info on the board including how to jerk off guides and sift out the info they feel is important ' to them. ' ' To them' in quotes as one guy may really use these lists and / or not care about reviews or care about reviews but not who was there etc. I can see how a review from yesterday could be labeled ' yesterday's news' just as a LU would be from three days prior but IMO.
And you are right, Debbie may be giving BBBJ today and when the reader shows up next week she no longer offers BBBJ, reviews are simply a guideline but any guy needs take in to account changing services, prices, the YMMV factor etc if they bump in to that girl and seek a session. And chemistry can be everything. Or lack of can ruin anything. I do not know about others but I do have an idea what many guys like or don't like based on their reviews / trip reports so if I bump in to that girl I sort of have a Point of reference although as you state she may not offer me up what another guy got I can store that info in the back of my head as I talk with her if I talk with her. For me I don't find LU lists at Sharks or a megaclub here useful, doesn't mean I won't read them out of curiosity but I am by no means saying they aren't useful for others. That being said keep them coming. I glance thru them, as someone pointed out they think Nick does too (if he does he does if he doesn't he doesn't) but the point of my posts is simply for me and my style I don't need these long megaclub lists to make any actually choices of venues to go to or decisions on who I will see. I have no issue with them. I have no issue if another looks for them daily and plans trips accordingly. My no means am I an advocate to the suppression of lists (or reviews) but by all means I am entitled to my opinion that these lists of 40-50-60 girls or whoever is working do not influence my mongering. I don't judge others if they love these lists, their choice. I respect that, regardless if I use them or not to make choices or decisions.
Sure, I will look to see if I recognize a name, but by no means will I choose to go to Oase because Raizza was on a list from last week or not go to Sharks because I didn't see Luci on a list from the day before. More likely I am going to post (along the lines of MacA's reply) a single ' ISO: Is Domenica back' as I did and ironically Nick replied ' she was. ' So I will say as Bituman pointed out in the Brenda / Howie situation had a list been posted than I would have known Domenica was back from holiday. Bituman it right, it would have been useful to know and I could have skipped the ISO. However, such information didn't have any impact on my decision to go to Sharks that day and in fact once there ' chemisty' was found with another girl, one who I have yet to even see on a list (or I didn't look.) So perhaps I will slightly amend my thoughts that lists are not useless but when it comes to my decision making they are a non-factor.
I have zero issues with the publications of lists, I have zero issues if someone finds my reviews useless as yesterday's news, zero issues if some guy wants to fly in with a preprinted list of four pole dancers and go to the bar and ask for them; his cock, his money his choice to monger as he sees fit. Not my duty to say he is wrong as one member basically is saying I did (unless they were referring to another member).
I am not sure where but somehow it appears myself or Nick are being accused or maybe implied of spewing some kind of venomous attack on posters who make lists and / or use them. I can not speak for Nick only for myself buy I have zero issues with anyone who uses lists to monger. Go for it. Whatever works. We are all different. Have fun.
No one's style is right or wrong, in fact all of our differences perhaps might be our greatest asset thus so many different kinds of posts. The more information be it a list, a review of a girl and even a guide on how to jerk off and make your cum fly 20 feet in the air etc is all info that can and should be posted and the reader can choose what info to read, skim, skip or use or not use and in the event they feel a poster is spewing venom or insulting others than simply ignore them.
It's just the internet. Use as one feels is applicable to them. If we do that, we are all winners.
Member #4581
11-13-18, 15:31
Just kidding KK. We know and understand you didn't forbade anything, and were just stating that you personally find the LU lists of little use. But you can see how others might stretch similar reasoning to belittle girl reviews, club reviews, pretty much anything. Then we would not have much to discuss. Well, except master race ass shaving of course.
Cum fly shots upto 20 feet you say? I can only dream. These days, I am just trying to succeed on the first part of that equation. The flying part and the Odyssean journeys of 20 feet may need to wait until Google perfects their self driving technology, specialized for C(um challenged) -men and their semen.
Kosher Kowboy
11-13-18, 15:35
Just kidding KK.
Cum fly shots upto 20 feet you say? I can only dream..Thanks for clarifying.
20 feet I think is for 25 yr old bucks and Mr. Ho who seems to have mastered such an art. I am about 20 days till the big 50, if I can shoot it 3 feet I am happy!! In honor of Mr. Ho I have not blown in 3 days so as much as I would like to impress him with a distance number I regret to inform Sir Ho that I doubt my first DNA lunch will see the light of day and will end up somewhere in the German sewer system underneath the RLD!
The banks open in 25 minutes here and I need some Euros. Due to my account I have I pay only 1.003 cents more than spot ( German ATM) so screw it will get them early.
Anyone have a list ( :D ) of banks with Euros in stock?
Just kidding. have a good Thanksgiving holiday all ...
BarryManila
11-13-18, 18:54
300 ? Without drinking and seeing double, 150 girls?Maybe someone has counted the tits and forgot to divide by 2. LOL.
Hey guys,
Anyone see if Amilia come back to work in the past few days? I will be landing on frankfurt tomorrow.
Many thanks. Hondafans.
Maybe someone has counted the tits and forgot to divide by 2. LOL.And Brenda counts for at least 10 girls for tits, so 20 girls on her own.
If LU lists are useless, then by extension trip reports are also useless, no? If John writes that Lisa kissed him, Debbie licked his balls, but Lexi did not suck his dick well, there is no guarantee when Greg visits the club the following week that Lisa will kiss him also, Debbie will lick his balls, that Lexi will suck his dick well or poorly. Or that any of the girls will even be there.
Ergo, should we stop writing reviews here? Chemistry is everything, and reviews are last week's news as we all know. What's the point?
Perhaps we can jettison all LU lists and reviews and focus just on Ho's master race people shaving their arseholes in the right squatting position, after we first go through his tutorials on "proper techniques to jerk off at home".I have to say that congratulations are very much in order to Jnpr30. This post is genuinely the best I've read in my years on this forum. I was laughing at the last paragraph every time I re-read it. Whether you are a fan of LU lists or not, this short analysis was absolutely spot on. It's so true that the YMMV mantra can be accurate. As someone else put. If you don't like lists just ignore the posts about it. But that doesn't totally capture what this post did. To raise the sensible point that one man might create chemistry with a Chixa where another cannot. Yama Yama seems to be able to get girls to accept a lot of digit insertion via his extreme DATY skills whereas most of those girls would object to most guys inserting one finger. No point in him saying a girl takes FIV if she'll only accept when close to orgasm as next guy might not have his skills and the whole review culture falls apart.
Lists can and do contain generic information which I find useful. Reviews even more so. If 5 guys all post reviews saying (from above) that Debbie licks balls I think its fair for me to assume when I meet her in the club that she will lick mine if I room with her. Result. Reviews were a positive contribution to my mongering experience. Chemistry played no part. I knew from previous research what she does and does not do.
However this is all otiose. What matters is how I shave my arsehole in a squatting position. I've been missing out. I need to read more reviews! Thank you so much for this hugely entertaining post. I truly loved it. Well done. Hilarious. For the avoidance of any doubt. Absolutely no sarcasm intended at all. I just LOVED this. Put the lid on it for me.
ExpatLover
11-14-18, 04:10
I have to say that congratulations are very much in order to Jnpr30. This post is genuinely the best I've read in my years on this forum. I was laughing at the last paragraph every time I re-read it. Whether you are a fan of LU lists or not, this short analysis was absolutely spot on. It's so true that the YMMV mantra can be accurate. As someone else put. If you don't like lists just ignore the posts about it. But that doesn't totally capture what this post did. To raise the sensible point that one man might create chemistry with a Chixa where another cannot. Yama Yama seems to be able to get girls to accept a lot of digit insertion via his extreme DATY skills whereas most of those girls would object to most guys inserting one finger. No point in him saying a girl takes FIV if she'll only accept when close to orgasm as next guy might not have his skills and the whole review culture falls apart.
Lists can and do contain generic information which I find useful. Reviews even more so. If 5 guys all post reviews saying (from above) that Debbie licks balls I think its fair for me to assume when I meet her in the club that she will lick mine if I room with her. Result. Reviews were a positive contribution to my mongering experience. Chemistry played no part. I knew from previous research what she does and does not do.
However this is all otiose. What matters is how I shave my arsehole in a squatting position. I've been missing out. I need to read more reviews! Thank you so much for this hugely entertaining post. I truly loved it. Well done. Hilarious. For the avoidance of any doubt. Absolutely no sarcasm intended at all. I just LOVED this. Put the lid on it for me.What matters is how wide is the LU, the ratio man to woman is one of the key to get great service, I know very well some girls who are also reading this forum and know some guys who are writing here and believe me they are just laughing when they see what the guy writes and what really is taking place in the room.
Nick The G
11-14-18, 11:25
Hey guys,
Anyone see if Amilia come back to work in the past few days? I will be landing on frankfurt tomorrow.
Many thanks. Hondafans.Neither Amalia nor her sister Elif have been there last Friday.
I do not think ( at least myself) that lists should not be published nor discouraged, I have yet to see that anywhere in my posts. Saying lists aren't used by them and saying lists should be banned/discouraged are not the same thing ( not even close) , nor should words be twisted to imply such. Lists are great for some but once in a club a long list posted in a public forum for me is not very useful what is useful once in a club is my eyes, my ears and my gut feelings and for me the thrill of picking ( or being hunted) by many a girl, tons not on any lists.. IMHO
and hopefully interpreted respectfully .........................................My post was actually not directed to you, I'm surprised you thought it was. You were perhaps a little hasty.
Kosher Kowboy
11-14-18, 16:03
My post was actually not directed to you, I'm surprised you thought it was. You were perhaps a little hasty.Apologies for the hastiness, sorry for the misinterpretation. Carry on now and everyone have fun. Certainly more fun than this multi connection / overnight journey from prison to the other side of the pond. I am flying ' list free and proud' :D
Have a good week all.
Is Angelina (DE / COL) still working there?
Seems really weird that a monger would not want a visitor to the club to post a LU list.The only reason I can think of is a local who has animosity towards fly in mongers. You can get an idea of who feels this way, but who cares? If it wasn't for fly in mongers, mega clubs would not exist. Sharks, Oase, Palace, Mainhattan, Artemis, and even GoldenTime with it's Dutch, Belgian, and French clientele could not be supported by only German expendable income, or lack thereof.
The only reason I can think of is a local who has animosity towards fly in mongers. You can get an idea of who feels this way, but who cares? If it wasn't for fly in mongers, mega clubs would not exist. Sharks, Oase, Palace, Mainhattan, Artemis, and even GoldenTime with it's Dutch, Belgian, and French clientele could not be supported by only German expendable income, or lack thereof.When many Germans mostly go to clubs to meet, eat, drink, sauna, rather than going with girls, Turkish make business at night, buying bottles for club business, but not so high business for girls, some girls prefer to finish quite early, but foreigners spend money with girls.
NL and Belgium make work Vip GT, just have to look at cars on parking.
Striker699
11-15-18, 09:59
I'll be in Sharks for most of the next 2 days.
If anyone sees a relatively young Asian guy alone, feel free to come have a chat.
HerrPuppetMaster
11-15-18, 12:20
My luck, heading to Sharks tonight and the postal services didn't manage to deliver my pills. Any chance it's easy to get by before or during the visit? What's your experience?
Maybe someone has counted the tits and forgot to divide by 2. LOL.LOL, lets hope they didn't count the dicks twice.
Nick The G
11-15-18, 16:57
Rubbish! ..... There are only 165 lockers for the girls.True too for the blue bands with electronic chips that the girls get when checking in at the reception. But. , the girls who came later on that Friday then got these red bands that usually only the men get!
I asked again yesterday and the number of about 230 working girls was confirmed!
Several girls mentioned, that the club earned a lot alone from all the girls who came in, while due to the lack of men many girls during that day were having a real hard time to make enough money on that night to at least compensate for the usual expenses.
BTW. , still no Amalia and Elif there yesterday.
My luck, heading to Sharks tonight and the postal services didn't manage to deliver my pills. Any chance it's easy to get by before or during the visit? What's your experience?Sharks frontdesk used to sell Kamagra pouches each for 20 e (which online can be 2 or 3 e only) but you have to ask nicely and with discretion. Good luck.
Is Angelina (DE / COL) still working there?If she has many tattoos and silicon tits yes, I went with her last Sunday. Good session for 50 E, friendly girl.
The line up is good now, many new entries girls. But 70 80% of girls are the same all year.
I went with Sidonia, Ro 1 hour, good room.
I don't see Ayleen, Aus and her friend big boobs. Elektra? Mandy.
I saw new Tamaris, particularly girl with green eyes, Viorica, Annika, Emma (now blonde), Hannah, and other resident girl.
ExpatLover
11-16-18, 02:49
My luck, heading to Sharks tonight and the postal services didn't manage to deliver my pills. Any chance it's easy to get by before or during the visit? What's your experience?Forget that pills you don't need them to fuck prostitutes.
ExpatLover
11-16-18, 02:51
True too for the blue bands with electronic chips that the girls get when checking in at the reception. But. , the girls who came later on that Friday then got these red bands that usually only the men get!
I asked again yesterday and the number of about 230 working girls was confirmed!
Several girls mentioned, that the club earned a lot alone from all the girls who came in, while due to the lack of men many girls during that day were having a real hard time to make enough money on that night to at least compensate for the usual expenses.
BTW. , still no Amalia and Elif there yesterday.Nothing new, each year it is the same story before Christmas and new Year the girls are eager for cash. The girls have the choice to find a normal job but most of them are too lazy for that.
The only reason I can think of is a local who has animosity towards fly in mongers. You can get an idea of who feels this way, but who cares? If it wasn't for fly in mongers, mega clubs would not exist. Sharks, Oase, Palace, Mainhattan, Artemis, and even GoldenTime with it's Dutch, Belgian, and French clientele could not be supported by only German expendable income, or lack thereof.With less tourist business, there was less inflation and better service. All the clubs existed before tourist and would have existed otherwise as 200 euro a day for a girl is a lot for the countries they come from. But why work hard when they have what you like to call fly in mongers. Oh men, this will be my last response to you, not even basic game theory principles will appeal.
Nick The G
11-16-18, 12:13
I don't see Ayleen, Aus and her friend big boobs. Elektra? Mandy.
I saw new Tamaris, particularly girl with green eyesOn Wednesday, Ayleen, Kylie (Elektra) and Mandy were all there.
Tamaris was not there. Maybe she already left Sharks to go back to Finca Erotica (as already announced by her some time ago).
On Wednesday, Ayleen, Kylie (Elektra) and Mandy were all there.
Tamaris was not there. Maybe she already left Sharks to go back to Finca Erotica (as already announced by her some time ago).Hey Nick, I just realize something: You, my friend, are one of the best providers of LU lists for this Sharks thread. I mean, consistently your posts tend to furnish fresh hard data on which specific girls are present or absent at the club. You are definitely a "List Meister" because if we call up your all your posts from, say, the past couple of months, do a bit of cut and splicing here and there, well you've given us the clear picture.
Thanks so much for this great list-providing service. And all along I had the false impression that you were not a great fan of lists: boy was I wrong! I am now a member of your fan club. Good job and keep at it Mann!
Nick The G
11-16-18, 17:37
Hey Nick, I just realize something: You, my friend, are one of the best providers of LU lists for this Sharks thread. I mean, consistently your posts tend to furnish fresh hard data on which specific girls are present or absent at the club. You are definitely a "List Meister" because if we call up your all your posts from, say, the past couple of months, do a bit of cut and splicing here and there, well you've given us the clear picture.
Thanks so much for this great list-providing service. And all along I had the false impression that you were not a great fan of lists: boy was I wrong! I am now a member of your fan club. Good job and keep at it Mann!It is more that I am lazy. If it is a question about a specific girl, or three or four names of girls I know and happened to see there, then I can add something here.
The girls MrStev missed on Sunday were there two days before on Friday and then again three day later on Wednesday, but not on that very Sunday in between. That is the thing with the usefulness of "yesterday's papers".
With less tourist business, there was less inflation and better service. All the clubs existed before tourist and would have existed otherwise as 200 euro a day for a girl is a lot for the countries they come from. But why work hard when they have what you like to call fly in mongers. Oh men, this will be my last response to you, not even basic game theory principles will appeal.Yeah Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan, Palace are inflated but you still have clubs like Babylon, Finca, Bernds, Bahama, Atlanta, Dietz, Aca, and so on for which to be grateful.
I do have a couple of questions. Why is it that Hamburg clubs have so much upsell yet there are so few tourists there? If tourists are the main cause of upsell, then why are the Czech, Polish, and Russian girls no longer around to collect on these big spenders? I think these are fair questions to pose in light of your implied animosity towards auslanders.
Kosher Kowboy
11-16-18, 19:33
With less tourist business, there was less inflation and better service. All the clubs existed before tourist and would have existed otherwise as 200 euro a day for a girl is a lot for the countries they come from. But why work hard when they have what you like to call fly in mongers. Oh men, this will be my last response to you, not even basic game theory principles will appeal.What about drive in mongers. A Dietz reg told me he used to go to the Dusseldorf areas club but the 'drive ins' from Belgium, Holland, France etc. are forcing prices up and service levels down many tipping. A Mainhatten girl told me after the Asians the Germans are the biggest tippers (American ' fly ins' behind them). Perhaps times have changed. I don't doubt things in the past were different as you say. Even the Gypsies would cry if they only made 200 Euros a day in the year 2018 (by 2 PM!) .
Everyone loves to blame the fly ins, it is amazing how so many girls talk about how generous the Germans are. I bet if it weren't for fly ins like Takedown and I that DFK BBBJ DATY Fucking at Palace would be only 50 e and Sharks could give out Viagras by Phizer not cheap Kamagra. I actually heard if you are discreet and show proof of a 7 day or less receipt for a manicure that the Sharks receptionist will not only give you Viagra but if you kill her with kindness and charm her she will take you in the back room where the laundry is done and let you finger and fist her!
But you have to be respectful and the FIV is only for fly ins!
Takedown is in luck! :D
With less tourist business, there was less inflation and better service. All the clubs existed before tourist and would have existed otherwise as 200 euro a day for a girl is a lot for the countries they come from. But why work hard when they have what you like to call fly in mongers. Oh men, this will be my last response to you, not even basic game theory principles will appeal.I'm not sure how long you have been participating in this hobby, but I seriously doubt that you remember a time before touring mongers were visiting Germany for the purpose of sex. My first introduction to the scene in Germany was courtesy of a British tourist who I met in a gasthaus in 1984. I asked what brought him across the channel and he told me. I asked if I could ride along and he took me into Hamburg. Even before this, as far back as the 60's foreigners were enjoying the reaperbahn. John Lennon is quoted as saying, "I didn't grow up in Liverpool, I grew up in Hamburg". I don't think he was talking about ages 1 to 18, and given that the Beatles played nearby, I'm sure they visited the P4 P sex scene on a few occasions. I'm not saying there aren't more foreigners than before, just that even with past levels they would be more noticed in this environment.
What is different now is the construct of the Saauna Clubs. These days, mongers stay in one place for several hours at a time, in establishments lighted well enough to to see more than 1 meter in front of you. This allows you to see the man who is coming back from the room with your favorite or top target, however you say. When you see this, maybe it bothers you to realize he is someone you would really rather not follow. This may not be the case, but I know that it is for some mongers. There are still some smaller clubs that are mostly German clients, but these are harder to find after the fall of the flat rate clubs. I visited one club this past year where my local friend told me not to speak until after we were inside the club or risk being turned away. Now that I'm known I can get into the club without him being there to front for me.
Lastly, I hate to hear people say that €200 per day is a lot of money where these women are from. What is what where they are from doesn't mean jack once they arrive in Germany, because once here their cost of living is based on local prices. The only benefits they have is that in a non tracked or reported cash business they can minimize their taxes. What very few men calculate is that the average woman in the business has about €3000 to €3500 in operating expenses, entry, hotel, taxi to and from work, nails, etc. If they average €500 per day that's six or seven days before they make the first profit, and that's not counting the portion of their earnings the tax authority will take.
With less tourist business, there was less inflation and better service. All the clubs existed before tourist and would have existed otherwise as 200 euro a day for a girl is a lot for the countries they come from. But why work hard when they have what you like to call fly in mongers. Oh men, this will be my last response to you, not even basic game theory principles will appeal.Sharks was a small club with 30/40 girls in 2013, about 50 on 2014, 150 sometimes since November 2016, but lower casting for beauties. Top girls don't stay for cheap 50 at Sharks, they prefer clubs with better business. Castings are on clients level, even GT casting is disappointing on November. Germans don't make clubs business and even less for girls, Turkish make clubs business at night, NL and Belgium make GT business, not locals make most of time big clubs business. Only small clubs get business from Germans.
HungryStud101
11-17-18, 14:33
Everyone loves to blame the fly ins, it is amazing how so many girls talk about how generous the Germans are. I bet if it weren't for fly ins like Takedown and I that DFK BBBJ DATY Fucking at Palace would be only 50 e and Sharks could give out Viagras by Phizer not cheap Kamagra. I actually heard if you are discreet and show proof of a 7 day or less receipt for a manicure that the Sharks receptionist will not only give you Viagra but if you kill her with kindness and charm her she will take you in the back room where the laundry is done and let you finger and fist her!
But you have to be respectful and the FIV is only for fly ins!
:DLaughing my ass off. I can't wait to fly back in to FKK land.
ExpatLover
11-17-18, 14:46
Sharks was a small club with 30/40 girls in 2013, about 50 on 2014, 150 sometimes since November 2016, but lower casting for beauties. Top girls don't stay for cheap 50 at Sharks, they prefer clubs with better business. Castings are on clients level, even GT casting is disappointing on November. Germans don't make clubs business and even less for girls, Turkish make clubs business at night, NL and Belgium make GT business, not locals make most of time big clubs business. Only small clubs get business from Germans.2 or 3 years back most of the big clubs had a lot of German regulars several key drivers make them staying out of the clubs the main one is for me that the mongers are getting older same effect is happening in Thailand where the senior christian mongers are less and less replaced by Indian, . The younger generation are more using apps like tinder and are not ready to pay for sex, the girls are less hungry and the German are high demanding mongers AO, fisting. Kissing so they prefer to stay outside and are not willing to pay extra for what they consider being included in a 50 euro session. For a regular like me I can also confirm that there are always the same veteran girls around and very few sexy girls are entering the P6 scene in Germany, these poor offer is not stimulating the demand.
Member #4636
11-17-18, 15:44
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Lastly, I hate to hear people say that 200 per day is a lot of money where these women are from. What is what where they are from doesn't mean jack once they arrive in Germany, because once here their cost of living is based on local prices. The only benefits they have is that in a non tracked or reported cash business they can minimize their taxes. What very few men calculate is that the average woman in the business has about 3000 to 3500 in operating expenses, entry, hotel, taxi to and from work, nails, etc. If they average 500 per day that's six or seven days before they make the first profit, and that's not counting the portion of their earnings the tax authority will take.Good point. I believe they have more than that per month. Remember they pay more than us to enter the club so only working 5 days a week would be average 2000 just to enter the club. Then the have their expensive make up, clothes, rent food taxes etc. I think 500/ day is their main target for most of them. They make good money but they also have a lot of expenses. Still a good business for prostitutes who believe that the meaning of life is to open wide your legs. LOL.
Chongmai. Some nice points. Yes, a girl at Sharks may be paying each month 500 euros to keep a flat in Romania, 800 for accommodation in Germany, childcare of 300-500, club entry of 1600 -2000, taxis of 300, support to mothers, fathers and so on. With costs like these 200 income a day does not cover costs. Income of 400 or 500 a day will give a profit sufficient to save (or splurge).
Of course this is just one possible cost scenario, and if a girl has no dependents or life in Romania to support then her situation is better financially.
As for fly-ins. Like you I have been kicking around a bit. We fly-ins used to be the stingiest of clients. Not only getting "everything" for 50, but also extended fun and chat on the couches. Things have changed maybe but the reasons are complex.
The clubs used to be staffed by girls from economies (such as Germany) with higher wage levels than Romania, yet the girls used to make enough money to be well off (earning about 60,000 net from full service for 50 euros per half hour) and able to invest in future careers. I think the current girls have, by operating cartel service restriction, damaged themselves overall.
ExpatLover
11-18-18, 07:41
Good point. I believe they have more than that per month. Remember they pay more than us to enter the club so only working 5 days a week would be average 2000 just to enter the club. Then the have their expensive make up, clothes, rent food taxes etc. I think 500/ day is their main target for most of them. They make good money but they also have a lot of expenses. Still a good business for prostitutes who believe that the meaning of life is to open wide your legs. LOL.Most of the girls are living in the clubs or sharing a flat, I think they need 150 to 200 euro per day including entry fees.
Sharks was a small club with 30/40 girls in 2013, about 50 on 2014, 150 sometimes since November 2016, but lower casting for beauties. Top girls don't stay for cheap 50 at Sharks, they prefer clubs with better business. Castings are on clients level, even GT casting is disappointing on November. Germans don't make clubs business and even less for girls, Turkish make clubs business at night, NL and Belgium make GT business, not locals make most of time big clubs business. Only small clubs get business from Germans.I was very happy with Sharks in that time. Very happy with palace in that time. Super happy with Oase and of course world. You must differentiate tourist as Europeans are different than Americans or Asian, which are the holy Grail for girls. Combine that with the new rules and girls can charge 150 for a 30 minutes room sometimes. Good 100 room are hard do find as a result. Even 150 doesn't guarantee anything in many clubs. When the consumer market adjusts and widens so do the services and prices offered. It is a natural progression. But the point being the clubs do not depend on the fly in mongers as the clubs existed before and will exist after.
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Member #4585
11-18-18, 13:21
With less tourist business, there was less inflation and better service. All the clubs existed before tourist and would have existed otherwise as 200 euro a day for a girl is a lot for the countries they come from. But why work hard when they have what you like to call fly in mongers. Oh men, this will be my last response to you, not even basic game theory principles will appeal.There has always been tourist business, going way back. So you cannot blame the drive in and fly in customers from Belgium, Netherlands, France, Poland, Denmark, Austria, Italy and Switzerland. These guys have been coming in droves. Like the Irish have been coming to America as Bono said.
I have heard many a time from girls that the Germans are the better tippers and over payers. The examples of the Germans that give 150 euro for "one hour" sessions when the actual time is 45 minutes with or usually without a CIM extra involved. As YamaYama says the time not in the room can be considered a tip. Then there is the package deals with 500 euro for two hours where the German guy "can do anything" he wants. Then there is the 10 euro to 20 and even 50 euro tips that girls get from the German guys.
There is just a vocal small group of hard core German regulars that insist on a competitive race to the bottom who score points for getting the most couch time, room time and high level services for 50 bucks that skew the discussion forums. As with many the reality can be different.
200 euro a day is not that much. Girls will aim for 500 a day is likely. Stories abound of the earlier days when many girls would aim for 1000 a day, but nowadays maybe only the best girls can make 1000 a day.
Chongmal makes a very good point that when the foreign girls work in Germany that they are living in Germany so their expenses become German. It is only whatever savings that the girls make that it becomes good money.
Working on a hypothetical working girl who stays in Germany 75% of the year meaning 9 months working in Germany and 3 months at home over the course of the year seems normal since we all know girls who are always away on holiday or just taking a break.
This girl will need somewhere to stay. I know girls paying 500 euro for a room share a month and many girls paying 1000 a month for a room in a be&be, pension, or hotel. So let us work on 750 as a half way house here but knowing most girls prefer to live alone or with their fish boyfriend so its more at the higher end. Food, mobile phone, make up, hair, nails and incidentals like 25 a day on say a 30 day month is 750. It is probably more. So already accommodation and living costs that is fixed costs of 1500 euros a day.
Then for the work expenses side as the girls are independent contractors.
Let us work on 20 days worked in a 30 day period which seems about right from my observations. Some girls work everyday 7 days a week since their manager pushes them but then some girls are pushed less by their manager so 5 days a week is a basic number in our hypothetical and using empirical observation.
Entrance fees is 105 a day at Sharks which is the initial withholding tax, entrance fee and 5 for the condoms. I do know there is a small room charge if a girl stays in the club but we are working on a live out girl. I have also read that the Sharks girls pay 195 a day entry but I am not sure on that. So at 105 entry a day for a 20 day working month that is 2100.
Maybe taxi / car return travel to and from club at 30 a day so over 20 days working in a month that is 600 bucks more.
So now we add these together 1500 fixed cost of being in Germany with room and living expenses, plus the 2100 entrance fees and 600 taxi / car is 4200 a month. I know even for me my expenses are 1850 (outside my other homes) a month. So the girl has 2350 a month more costs in comparison to me. That is not an insignificant amount of money.
If a girl earns gross 400 a day (8 rooms a day on average) over a 20 day average month then that is 8000 a month, and over a 9 month year since as we know many girls do not work all year due to the mental strain of the job then that is 72000 a year. If the girl is only paying for the flat in Germany during her 9 months and many actually keep their flat in Germany when home but we will assume she does not, then the math is 8000 less 4200 costs is 3800 surplus. She over a year can make savings of 34200 a year. Much less if the girl keeps her flat for the whole year. The girls do their best to not pay local income taxes apart from the initial withholding taxes with is paid in the entrance fee, but they contribute to the German economy in other ways.
So taking that 34200 a year possible savings from working in German then compared to over a 240 day (12 month x 20 days a month) working year at home is like saving 142.50 a day compared to say saving nothing working in an average job making 1000 euro a month in Bucharest or Cluj or Constanta. I think even 1000 euro a month in Romania is a lot of money having stayed there myself.
So in way I can see 200 a day is a lot of money for a girl in Romania but the girl has to actually save their money to take back to Romania. What you see is the girls spending a lot of their money in Germany buying hang bags, expensive make up, fast cars, luxury holidays, all the things a 20 something year old girl who is an avid social media consumer would want as well. The girls are consumerist.
With costs like these 200 income a day does not cover costs. Income of 400 or 500 a day will give a profit sufficient to save (or splurge).
Sorry, I am digressing. The point is the same as Optimist that earning 200 a day is not really going to cover the girls costs which is around 210 a day (4200 divide by 20 working days). She needs to earn more. So one can be forgiven that the girls can be enterprising in trying to get as much from a session as they can.
ExpatLover
11-18-18, 18:47
There has always been tourist business, going way back. So you cannot blame the drive in and fly in customers from Belgium, Netherlands, France, Poland, Denmark, Austria, Italy and Switzerland. These guys have been coming in droves. Like the Irish have been coming to America as Bono said.
I have heard many a time from girls that the Germans are the better tippers and over payers. The examples of the Germans that give 150 euro for "one hour" sessions when the actual time is 45 minutes with or usually without a CIM extra involved. As YamaYama says the time not in the room can be considered a tip. Then there is the package deals with 500 euro for two hours where the German guy "can do anything" he wants. Then there is the 10 euro to 20 and even 50 euro tips that girls get from the German guys.
There is just a vocal small group of hard core German regulars that insist on a competitive race to the bottom who score points for getting the most couch time, room time and high level services for 50 bucks that skew the discussion forums. As with many the reality can be different.
200 euro a day is not that much. Girls will aim for 500 a day is likely. Stories abound of the earlier days when many girls would aim for 1000 a day, but nowadays maybe only the best girls can make 1000 a day.
Chongmal makes a very good point that when the foreign girls work in Germany that they are living in Germany so their expenses become German. It is only whatever savings that the girls make that it becomes good money.
Working on a hypothetical working girl who stays in Germany 75% of the year meaning 9 months working in Germany and 3 months at home over the course of the year seems normal since we all know girls who are always away on holiday or just taking a break.What about taxes, AOK, pimps, drugs, shopping addiction. To make it easy I can tell you that 80% of the Romanian girls have nothing after 5 years in FKK probably some German girls have a better control of their life.
The examples of the Germans that give 150 euro for "one hour" sessions when the actual time is 45 minutes with or usually without a CIM extra involved.
This can be true for the older germans, as many of them are stink-rich nowadays. The younger germans? I would really highly doubt that for most of them.
So one can be forgiven that the girls can be enterprising in trying to get as much from a session as they can.All your calc sounds fine. However, the major reason of upselling has much simpler economics. A girl only needs to spend 1 min on upselling, has often a 50% chance of succeeding of making 20 - 50 euro more.
So in the 1 min of upselling she she earns an expected 10 e to 25 e.
So in the 8 sessions, trusting your numbers, she makes an additional 80 e- 200 e more money, just for 8 min more work. So that is a large sum of money, normalized to the hour.
I was very happy with Sharks in that time. Very happy with palace in that time. Super happy with Oase and of course world. You must differentiate tourist as Europeans are different than Americans or Asian, which are the holy Grail for girls. Combine that with the new rules and girls can charge 150 for a 30 minutes room sometimes. Good 100 room are hard do find as a result. Even 150 doesn't guarantee anything in many clubs. When the consumer market adjusts and widens so do the services and prices offered. It is a natural progression. But the point being the clubs do not depend on the fly in mongers as the clubs existed before and will exist after.My meaning was when Sharks was a small club with less than 50 girls, 5 years ago, German clients business was maybe enough, but now Germans even with Turkish, Albanians and Afghans attending Sharks at night, wouldn't be enough to give enough business to more than 100 girls. Besides, many Germans, not only at Sharks, don't go with girls, but just eat, drink and sauna. But I agree Western Europeans are more demanding because used to Caucasian type girls than Asians who go with any blond, or even Americans who have fat and silicon standards at home, and missing sex in US, when I can have a Russian escort every day in Paris, but I wait for my Siberian Sveta. When tourists make business, then girls fall in touristic level, when I still manage to find good girls who are happy with 100 for 1 full GFE hour and come to ask to repeat. On Friday, a girl was so passionate compare to previous Friday, asking even for a third room when she said I killed her pussy on our second room, but she wanted to repeat, I didn't. No upselling, each time, 100 for a bit more than 1 hour.
Happy for you if you found good girls in Hessen on this time. Ski time now, but have to find time to go to Florentina who was one of the last high level girl met at Sharks. Did you see the beautiful German brunette?
Nick The G
11-18-18, 23:33
The girls do their best to not pay local income taxes apart from the initial withholding taxes with is paid in the entrance fee, but they contribute to the German economy in other ways.The main goal of the new prostitution law in Germany is to enable the tax departments to get more money from the women working in prostitution. This is why line-up list in fora are more interesting for tax authorities than reports of actions in the room.
The girls are consumerist.No difference to the men visiting the clubs. They are consumerists too, they consume alcohol, viagra, female bodies and connected illusions.
Member #4585
11-19-18, 00:52
This can be true for the older germans, as many of them are stink-rich nowadays. You are quite right, but Germany does beat the incomes of many of its neighbors when it comes to gross domestic product per person. Beating Belgium, Denmark, Italy, United Kingdom, France and Austria for example. Netherlands beats Germany on these tables.
Link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
So I would agree the older retired Germans with pension plans from their middle industry jobs would be well set up.
All your calc sounds fine. However, the major reason of upselling has much simpler economics. A girl only needs to spend 1 min on upselling, has often a 50% chance of succeeding of making 20 - 50 euro more.
So in the 1 min of upselling she she earns an expected 10 e to 25 e.
So in the 8 sessions, trusting your numbers, she makes an additional 80 e- 200 e more money, just for 8 min more work. So that is a large sum of money, normalized to the hour. Yeah, many girls say that they do this up-selling since you have to pump the guys for as much as possible from the beginning since when you start then you only get the basic money. In this way they can give the same service and get paid much more. This is why more and more there is discussion about money before the session starts. Commonsense.
Its quite poignant when a girl tells you this but then you are wondering when she is going to upsell you.
Member #4585
11-19-18, 01:03
This is why line-up list in fora are more interesting for tax authorities than reports of actions in the room.I think you need to explain your reason for writing this.
Are the cops going to sitting on this website in paid for work time trolling for line up lists? Picking up a random name here or there, trying to work out was it Milena, Elena, Dilena or Mila who was discussed? Trying to decipher the arguments on the forum about was it 100 girls or 150 girls or was it 20 girls depending on the time of day or day of the week a monger was visiting the club?
I would think that it is a better use of taxpayer's money if the cops just went to the front desk of the club to ask for the line up list kept by the receptionist of which girls had paid entry to work in the club and the records of the prior days. That club's list would be far more complete and accurate.
For police it is going to be hard to put up evidence based on some guy pumped with viagra and cannot even remember a girls name writing on an internet forum than a hard list from the club itself of all the girls registered to work for the day. Commonsense.
No difference to the men visiting the clubs. They are consumerists too, they consume alcohol, viagra, female bodies and connected illusions.
These days I get more excitement from a doner kebab. Commonsense.
This Monday I am in Sharks. Up from noon. Happy to know whoever there will be by chance.
….. line-up list …. more interesting for tax authorities than reports …...In Germany we should be aware that authorities are also registered making regular reviews of what is written and of interest. There is one board in which the line-up of Sharks is regularly posted not in complete but in a very detailed way. The women are regsitered and have their respective "passport" and the club has ist lists for every day showing the name of girls being there. I think the management of a club accept these rules in order to assure making ist business run instead of doing exceptions with some girls.
Nick The G
11-19-18, 17:27
I think you need to explain your reason for writing this.Let's put it that way: well yeah, the clubs have to maintain these lists. And the girls and boys in german brothels according to the new prostitution law have to use condoms. What every club will officially state, of course.
So, sometimes it is good to have a second source of information. Why not check the internet?
My meaning was when Sharks was a small club with less than 50 girls, 5 years ago, German clients business was maybe enough, but now Germans even with Turkish, Albanians and Afghans attending Sharks at night, wouldn't be enough to give enough business to more than 100 girls. Besides, many Germans, not only at Sharks, don't go with girls, but just eat, drink and sauna. But I agree Western Europeans are more demanding because used to Caucasian type girls than Asians who go with any blond, or even Americans who have fat and silicon standards at home, and missing sex in US, when I can have a Russian escort every day in Paris, but I wait for my Siberian Sveta. When tourists make business, then girls fall in touristic level, when I still manage to find good girls who are happy with 100 for 1 full GFE hour and come to ask to repeat. On Friday, a girl was so passionate compare to previous Friday, asking even for a third room when she said I killed her pussy on our second room, but she wanted to repeat, I didn't. No upselling, each time, 100 for a bit more than 1 hour.
Happy for you if you found good girls in Hessen on this time. Ski time now, but have to find time to go to Florentina who was one of the last high level girl met at Sharks. Did you see the beautiful German brunette?Sharks has fewer girl, but was never so small. Armos is small. 50 girls is enough. I have that at world now and that's absolutely enough. Sharks will nit close its doors if tourist will not come from Asia or the US. Its core clients are Europeans. Crossing the borders from France or taking a short flight from London is not really a big deal. I have friends who almost weekly from Torin and I don't consider them fly in. Sharks will not close its door with out fly in mongers. World is slow, but still have some perfect days there. Point remains the same: big clubs are not, were not and will not be depended on fly in mongers. Fact.
ExpatLover
11-19-18, 19:50
In Germany we should be aware that authorities are also registered making regular reviews of what is written and of interest. There is one board in which the line-up of Sharks is regularly posted not in complete but in a very detailed way. The women are regsitered and have their respective "passport" and the club has ist lists for every day showing the name of girls being there. I think the management of a club accept these rules in order to assure making ist business run instead of doing exceptions with some girls.Only fantasm, the controls are only there to get tax payments.
ExpatLover
11-19-18, 19:51
Let's put it that way: well yeah, the clubs have to maintain these lists. And the girls and boys in german brothels according to the new prostitution law have to use condoms. What every club will officially state, of course.
So, sometimes it is good to have a second source of information. Why not check the internet?Take it easy the things are not like this, the authorities only care about to reduce the number of clubs and prostitutes to keep peace in the german families.
For money you saved not flying in over the Atlantic Ocean, your bank account should be in balance. LOL.I won't save much as I saved the flight over the North Sea not the Atlantic, I'm from the Mother Country LOL!
Anyone at Sharks Thursday next week & fancy a chat in between sessions please let me know, possibly there for a few hours early next Friday too.
No, all the girls will be there eagerly waiting for you in need to earn money (to buy Christmas presents in December and to stay home in their countries for some weeks). With regards to full lineup, this is a splendid period of time, actually this is one of the best times in the year to visit the club!
This situation will last until 17th /18th of December.I took your advise and will be returning to Shark Land next Thursday & for a few hours the following day.
I will let you know if your prophecy was correct but just in case I will take the "odd extra gift" from Santa for the girls that have been good girls this year!
I have a few recommendations as I'm sure we all do LOL!
Member #4581
11-20-18, 00:35
It is a joke that tax authorities are scanning these lists for tax compliance.
Last year, people made the dubious claim that what is written here will lead to convictions for violations of the new law. That was laughable then, and this claim about tax verification is equally absurd.
TankTank123
11-20-18, 02:31
Arrived at 11 am.Thank you for all your great 'Late Fall FFK Tour' posts. They had all been enjoyable reading.
In order to experience what the Odyssey of YamaYama was like, I thought that I would try out a few of the YamaYama experiences yesterday.
I duly found one of the girls you sessioned with and who is an avid reader of ISG and thus knew exactly what you wrote about her, I got her to repeat exactly the same sequence as the one you did since being less than 2 weeks ago it was still fresh in her mind.
Totally enjoyed her small 'O' and big 'O', and she even gave me a bonus super-big 'O' which she said that she had planned to but she did not put on for you as you had wanted to switch to cowgirl instead of continuing with DATY. I have just had the opportunity to read your post covering that session, and my goodness, she was quite accurate!
I hope that you will not patent your sessions as I can then carry on trying more of these great set menus in the future. But as few of the girls would be avid readers of ISG and have such good memories, I guess I should print out your posts and bring them with me to refresh their memories!
YamaYama0519
11-20-18, 04:39
...In order to experience what the Odyssey of YamaYama was like, I thought that I would try out a few of the YamaYama experiences yesterday...Thanks for your verification and am pleased to hear that both you and she enjoyed the session, but am sorry to miss out on her super big O, LOL.
Sharks has fewer girl, but was never so small. Armos is small. 50 girls is enough. I have that at world now and that's absolutely enough. Sharks will nit close its doors if tourist will not come from Asia or the US. Its core clients are Europeans. Crossing the borders from France or taking a short flight from London is not really a big deal. I have friends who almost weekly from Torin and I don't consider them fly in. Sharks will not close its door with out fly in mongers. World is slow, but still have some perfect days there. Point remains the same: big clubs are not, were not and will not be depended on fly in mongers. Fact.Danny has a little bit of a point, Turkish-German mongers help keep clubs afloat. No way these clubs stay open with just the local ethnic German pensioners though.
Member #4581
11-20-18, 05:57
I spent 4 days in Sharks in the recent past. The club is hopping and humming, more alive than ever, and filled to the brim with eminently fuckable girls. If you have an urge to pump a few young lasses and release all that pent up excess energy, this is as good a time as any and Sharks is absolutely the right place to achieve your carnal goals.
Sorry, if you are impatient you can just TLDR it and look at the LU list.
The following is a list of girls that I talked to and remembered. There are tons more that I did not know or forgot. And it is not just quantity -- the quality is just as impressive. Any prognostications made about Sharks' demise are premature and far from the truth, in my opinion.
Claudia.
Alma.
Gianna.
Adriana.
Samantha.
Kylie big tits Greek.
Ava.
Raissa.
Coco.
Selina brunette.
Violeta skinny small tits blonde 1 week at Sharks. Ex Ned escort.
Anastasia. Skinny blonde small tits. Now putting on some weight on hips. Still selling extras.
Mischa. Skinny straight brown haired girl. Awesome bod. Cute face.
Anita. Tallish blonde, Reese Witherspoon lookalike? On the right day perhaps.
Keisha. MILF.
Isabella. Czech. Milfish.
Franzine. Ex Artemis blonde. Bolt one.
Daniela. Skinny blonde small tits. 24. Pretty face. Ex Palace. Moldvia.
Norielle. Rom. Brown hair.
Tila. German, at the German table. Bolt on big tits. Local Frankfurt girl. 2 days at Sharks.
Kimberly German.
Tia. German.
Manuela. Bulgaria. Tiny brunette. Nice gal. Cute face.
Skinny Loretta brunette. Rom 26.5 months at Sharks now.
Xenia. Magda couches.
Blonde German Holly. Koln pierced nipples ex Samya palace.
Blonde slim tall small tit Leoni. Cute face.
Natlia Moldova. Looks a bit like Andrea / Bulgaria ex-Sharks of a few years ago.
Selina blonde sagging tits Rom.
Julia Blonde + Florenza brunette. Stairs couches.
Venus tiny brunette Rom 27. New Estephania?
Nikki.
Nicole.
Ada.
Mikayla.
Vanessa dark hair, Rom 20.
Enia blonde. Perky tits, tallish.
Sienna + Vivian Bulgarian? At the German table.
Marina Bosnia?
Cassandra Rom 20.
Fabiana, slightly sagging but nice tits. Petite, cute face Moldavia.
Miriam. Milfish. Cute face.
Dani. Blonde. By the bar.
Kati. Polish? Milfish, blonde, toweled. 28.
Aphelia or Ophelia. 20. Ukr.
Roxy.
Amber.
Milfish Lorena.
Jill. Tall blonde, fake big tits.
Skinny Arianna. Less pretty face than prior blonde Arianna.
Tall slim blonde Lavinia.
Ayesha bit tits, cute face, Magda couch.
Malena brunette.
Blonde Mila + brunette Yvette duo.
Mina brunette petite, small tits.
Eleanor.
Judith tat on left shoulder.
Viorica.
Zyenep.
NAya.
Serena blonde.
Emma.
Raluha.
Larissa.
Asea.
Esther.
Jennifer blonde.
Lara.
Denise.
Scarlet.
Mira.
Madeline.
Ada.
Patricia brunette.
Patricia blonde Bulgarian fake big tits.
Sidonia.
Francesca.
Linda.
Moira blonde extensions.
Esra 20 bar or Magda couchees.
Big sagging tits MILF Alina.
Ivona.
Yra.
Ivana brunette.
Melanie.
Ellen petite.
Alexa brunette skinny.
Alexandra blonde skinny.
Big tits Brenda.
Loredana ex Oase.
Jazz blonde ex London.
Keisha.
Priya friendswith Paloma.
Olympia brunette.
Jessica blonde now bit fake tits.
Beyonc Croatia blonde, skinny small tits.
I flew in on a Sunday. Ah, sausage fest day. Was not looking forward to that aspect. If memory serves, this is only the second Sunday ever that I was in Sharks. Normally I make it a point to fly in on Monday, or fly out on Sunday morning. But hey, beggars can't be choosers and these days I will take my FKK trips whenever I can get them.
Even by 2 PM, the club was relatively full. However, no waits. I stayed until nearly mid night, and don't think I experienced even a single wait. In fact, it was on the Monday evening that I saw the first room wait upstairs. Go figure. ].
It was indeed a wiener fest , but there were plenty of receptacles for all those sausages if the men were so inclined. The girls were as usual, bored lacking sufficient business.
My first session of the day and trip was *Zyenep*. I had a half hour session with her in my prior trip a few months ago. Think she was relatively new at that time in the club. She completely forgot me and my face. I however remembered her name and that she is half Turkish and half Rom, and she was happy to see that. I reminded that in the past she was shy (she kept her eyes closed much of the time and did not kiss) and she laughed it off and said everything is fine now provided it is an hour session. I had no problem with that and we went upstairs. And true enough, no traces of shyness. Was quite playful, and kissed me from head to toe in quick succession and then laid next to me for more deeper smooching and make out. The rest of the service was also top notch. Her butt cheeks are small, baby smooth and felt so delicious in my palms. I love that feeling, as I kiss the girl while kneading her ass cheeks with my hand and she was a perfect fit. Very pretty face. She did make a feeble pitch for anal but just a quick mention and dropped it as soon as I said no thanks. I did not finish but it was a thoroughly enjoyable session and a grand way to start the trip. I am happy to see she blossomed into a top notch girl and I did observe that she has now a full roster of clients and was quite busy most of the time. She was in on all the days I went to the club and I fully intended to repeat with her as we both came down, but never did repeat. With so many other girls, was not in a mood for repeats. Too much fresh meat to try
NAya. I spotted NAya as soon as I walked into the club. I grabbed a cappuccino after a long flight and walked over and said Hi. She is always happy to see me. We chatted a bit, and I said I might see her later. Sure enough, after Zyenep, I wanted to give her a try before I may get busy with others. I know she is trying to not compete with the young bucks on Friday etc when there are hundreds of girls and is not even coming in those nights. She does have self awareness, we should admit. Don't know how many other girls are doing this. Not dissimilar to how the middle of the class students in high school might not apply to the Ivies. Self selecting out. Anyway, I wanted to take her while she was in the club and took for a quick session. NAya knows she is not my spec and we just go to room so I can give her a 50. Very often I don't even fuck her. On this visit though, I did. Still, a relatively quick session and it is always so nice to see this sweetheart and delightful woman. Always wish her the best.
Scarlett: A bit later, I was eyeing this pretty girl. I know I had seen her before, and perhaps had even session'ed with her. Just could not recall. She gave me a few smiles but otherwise did not bother me. Finally I walked upto her and said "don't I know you, what's your name? She said oh you forgot me, I am Scarlett. Then I recalled that I had indeed session'ed with her a year ago or perhaps even before that. She said it has been nearly two years since we sessioned. Here is one to the guys that claim girls have strong memory (they struck out on Zyenep and Viorica however). Anyway, I recalled Scarlet also had not given good service and asked if the menu was barebones or had some meat in it and she said one hour gets you a good deal. I was eager to partake the nectar of her enticing lips and a deeper exploration of her inviting mouth and agreed to an hour session. It was pretty darn good. After not having finished with NAya and Zyenep, I finally shot my fluids albeit into a plastic bag and not 20 meters as is the wont with KK. A thoroughly enjoyable experience, and a pleasant surprise as I think I did not have a great experience with Scarlett previously, and if I recall correct, gave her a somewhat negative review. She has clearly improved for the better.
Esra: I was a bit jet lagged as the evening turned to night. Didn't have much sleep the night before and the time difference was catching up. I was happy that I had at least one goal in my column for the night but a second goal would make it sweeter. I was sitting in my favored spot and caught a glimpse of this girl by the bar. Very pretty face and seemed to be slim, so I walked over closer to her for a better look and she still looked good and bid was super tight and just my spec. OK, time for the buyer's interview. Name is Esra. Was 19 or 20, forgot the exact number, but very young nevertheless. No she does not kiss. Impossible, she said. Excuse me, did you say impossible? Yes sir, that's what she repeated. OK, she does not want perverted old men shoving their tongues into her delicate mouth fair enough, a girl is entitled to a whim, especially one as pretty as Esra. But even BBBJ comes only with 100 e60 M. This, I was not willing to countenance. Seriously considered walking away, but damn it she looked so yummy and cute. I thought about all the strippers on whom I wasted hundreds and what was a 50 for a chance to fuck this young thing, even if I had to do it with no kissing and a covered blow job. With that brilliant logic, I rationalized my decision, plucked her away from her gal pal and headed up. She was actually very nice and despite her restrictions I had a really good time groping her super adorable body. After a good amount of body rub and other amorous athletics, we got down to a fuck. I was digging her looks quite A OK and that alone made me shoot a load into her pussy well shielded with a condom of course. And no, I did not read YamaYama's review or else I would have tried to insert at least one or two if not 5. But then again, she might be giving such privileges to only super mongers like Y^2 and not to runof the Mill punters like me. Who knows.
Monday:
After a good night sleep and rest, I was ready and raring to fuck. If by late last night, I was walking around in a pallor of old reflected glories, today I am pledged with enthusiastic fervor to be the old horse that wins the cup. OK, in my new definition, being able to fuck for 20 minutes non stop or achieving a couple of cum shoots is winning the cup. Semantics semantics.
Alexa / Alexi. As I was sitting by my appointed seat at the foot of the waterfalls, these two girls approached me as I contemplated my first session of the day. I recognized skinny Alexandra the blonde but only vaguely recalled the other brunette. Name is Alexi. Funny thing is, back in June Alexandra approached me as part of a duo with Ivana the brunette, and I sent away Alexandra and took Ivana for a session which turned out to be less than good and I regretted that perhaps I should have taken Alexandra instead. And this time, I made the same mistake and took the brunette again. She says she will do most of the things a cheap monger might want in 50 E. But as we are about to step into the Fishtank room, her friend Ivana barges in. Whoa, who invited you babe? They begin selling a threesome. I should have walked out, but I was in the mood for a room and forcibly kicked out Ivana. Literally had to push her out and close the door in her face. Jesus. And now, her friend Alexi is all upset. "Why did you make her go? Why can't you enjoy threesome? Yadda yadda". I told her I am not in the mood for this discussion. Then she takes another route. "Would I do an hour? Why not? Why don't I do anal or CIM, they will be fun. ". I told her I am not in the mood for this discussion, does she still want a room, and with terms as agreed before? With great reluctance she says, OK let's do it. Once the session begins her service is relatively decent, and she rations out some kissing, BBBJ and other things. However, I am slow to get into the mood. I did have some fun towards the end. Still, I chose not to extend it to one hour. Not sure if I will recommend her. The service was good enough and I did dig her looks enough to do a one hour session but the shenanigans at the start of the session left a bad taste in the mouth.
Natlia. I saw this girl tallish pretty girl. Reminded a bit of Andrea, the Bulgarian girl of past (2 or 3 years ago). Sparkling eyes. Pretty smile. Very cute face. A very slight bulge around tummy but by no means is she obese or fat. I saw wrapped all over some lucky dude and thought to myself I want a piece of that for me. LOL. FKK is a place where if you envy someone else's girl, you have a shot at fucking her yourself in the not too distant future. Like many Sharks girls, her price menu is different for 50 E and 100 E and with her I was not in the mood for 100 E. I knew she was a bit too big for me and I would never finish inside her, given her size. But I needed to ravage that body a little, given the Andrea resemblance. So, we did a 30 M quickie. I would say it was an OK session. Indeed fucking a hot young girl is never a wasteful exercise and for that alone, she deserves a thank you from me.
Jennifer: I had first sessioned with Jennifer a couple of years ago. My very first session with her lasted 90 min. Since then I had been with her a few more times but none ever exceeded even an hour. Even in my trip in June, I made some artless excuse and trimmed my session with her to just 30 M. Why was that, I wonder sometimes. She is pretty, has a nice striking face. Is blonde -- but still hasn't found her niche in the Asian clintele group. Nick the G called out her "non existent assets which she constantly keeps under wraps" -- cruel but sadly true. She is prepared to go where many nubile females fear to tread in the clubs in ters of her services and yet is strangely diffident in her approaches to prospective clients. Anyway, wrapt in inward contemplation about my dwindling resources of testosterone, I summoned Jennifer hoping that perhaps she could rekindle some extinguished flames. I had heard she has slithered down the path of depravity in the recent years, and that might be the very thing I needed at this hour. In the room, she made it clear that nothing was off the table in an hourly session and I was very much in the mood to put a lot of unspeakable things on the table, so it was clear we we were on the same page. DFK was no doubt on the menu, but I was in the mood for darker pleasures. Soon, in a supine position my head was north of tropic of cancer while she positioned her own mouth near the equatorial rain forest (well, they were thoroughly deforested in prep for the FKK visit), and kept moving south. For more than half hour, I had not seen head come up again. A gentleman does not kiss and tell -- should he also not tell when kissed? I will keep this writeup PG-18 for now. I have, ahem, a vague recollection of bending and lifting my legs and doing other acrobatic feats with my torso to facilitate superior access to her roving tongue which was more exploratory than Odysseus when it came to the nether worlds. After this session, I most definitely deserve the title disgusting old perv. On my day of judgement, when the good lord pulls up the video tape of my session with her and asks what I have to say for myself, I would have no defenses except to say "yes, please burn me in hell forever". I would have to extend my most sincere apologies to those gents who partook deep french kissing pleasures later that evening with this Romanian Jezebel.
Beyonce: After the session with Jennifer, I was drained. My mind was firmly enthroned in the seventh circle of content, after the depth of vices in the prior session. My little man it was clear was no longer capable to getting excited at the prospect of simple pleasures and modest sins. I was set to fly very early in the morning to Barcelona and wondering if I should call it a night. The club was in a somnabulent mode, if such a thing is possible with 70+ naked beauties and dozens of men with raging hormones. My mind was in a clouded, restless and jaded mood. The spirit and the heart wanted more, the physical equipment was saying no mas. As I was debating, I laid my eyes on this blonde beauty who seemed to be full of life. Was yapping away with her friend, sitting at the bar. Skinny, small tits, bright smile. Just the kind of wench that gets my debauchery juices flowing. I approached her. She is all smiles. Reads her price list aloud. 50 E gets you the bare minimum. Kissing and BBBJ would need an extra 20, she says. "What about an hour for 100 E? "Yes, that will net you BLS and kissing, and sex in multiple positions" (This last one gets me. I mean, wtf? Since when is sex in multiple positions an extra? Before the room, are we now to declare the one fucking position that is included in the default 50 E -- as if it is a pizza topping? "Yes, I will choose Pepperoni, er doggie, for my allowed topping / positionn please" After this most vivid romantic tete a tete conducted in the middle of a dozen people within touching distance, we head upstairs. She is a bundle of energy. Lays me on my back and starts a slow gyrating dance right above my head, my eyes having a direct line of sight to her moist entrance. Switches on a Serbian singer Rasta on her phone and belts out her own singing in tune with the audio. I guess I now understand her club nom de hooker, given her singing skills. Then she begins a slow body rub, starting from the bottom and heading north on my torso. Little JnpR30 likes it, and shows some signs of life. Good. Unfortunately, her mouth smells like an ash tray. Bummer. I was in a mood for kiss now -- in the prior session with Jennifer, there was kissing and fluid exchange between her mouth and my orifices, not necessarily my mouth. Worse yet, she declares BBBJ was 20 E extra. WHAT?? Didn't we say 100 E gets kissing, BLS, BBBJ included? "No", she says, "I expressly excluded BBBJ from that list". Did she? Had she? Could she? Can we rewind the interview audio, and anyway who the fuck understood her Croatian accent in the middle of all that chaos downstairs? I wondered if I could exchange kissing for BBBJ, since the former was no longer of any appeal. Or at least give up kissing for a 10 E discount towards BBBJ? "How about BLS"? "Yes, that is included". "OK, what are you doing here, taking your spot downstairs then". Really, the fickleness and caprices of WGs are hard to exaggerate. She does provide first rate slow sucking, licking, kissing, and suckling of my two sacks. OK, that was better. Then ensued some sex, and I did switch positions intentionally, because heck I paid for thim. My energy and cum ability had long waned. Forget KK's 20 meter shoots, mine are not traveling even 20 angstroms. I asked honey, it is not going to happen, could you jack me off? And did you tell me that is also an extra in your adorable Croatian accent. No, it is free. And I did eject a few microliters of sperm, facilitated by her "free handjob skills", although my hand had to gently guide her hand. Moral of the story: don't get old. And.
Tuesday, Wedneesday.
Had an early morning flight to Barcelona. Had to wake up really early. Whole day was in meetings, which was tough after 2 days of naked eye candy. Alas. Barcelona is a delightful city. Oh, why could nt they relocate Sharks to a place like Barcelona away from dreary Darmstadt? One can only dream. On Thursday night, I have some renewed vigor to try some local fare. I had mongered a long time ago in Barcelona, but it has been years. Still, I ventured out and visited this place called Felina. Now, I know Monger88, Steve9696 and Pay For It and other Stalwarts like Ibn Batuta are all expert Spain maestros and I am embarrassed to write anything about mongering there, and display my lack of knowledge. But Felinna is easy to visit, and no cover charge. There were 20 or 25 girls and mostly Latino; does the experience even come close to that in Sharks. Hardly. But the damage was minimal and it was a different experience. I would have loved to visit Baghdad and watch some live copulation by stunt cocks and hired vaginas but that show starts way late in the night.
Thursday.
After meetings upto late morning, I took a flight back and in FRA by Thursday afternoon. The Felina experience showed me what I am missing. Needed to be back in the club. This time, I rented a car. I had preplanned to vacate by Friday morning, as my flight back to US was on Saturday AM and I was going to say in the club all night anyway.
The day is cold and a bit rainy. It was rainy in Barcelona as well that morning. Whereas Sunday and Monday were generally glorious, Thursday was going to be indoors confinement at Sharks. Oh well. One could do worse than being locked up in a room with 150 naked beauties.
Venus As I made my way into the club on Thursday afternoon, I was hoping my sperm count and energy levels would hold up. I was also hoping perhaps Mandy would be in, but alas no such luck. In any case, after consuming a cappuccino and a cup of black coffee in quick succession, I did my usual prowl. And where would I find my first mark? Why, the Magda couches ofc. This cute as a button brunette with a ready smile and inviting glare. Name is Venus. And I am her bananarama. She is a bit older than normal, remember she was 26 I think. So tiny. Is she my new Estephania? She is certainly more friendly and vastly more mature, that's for sure. This is the kind of girl I want to ravish in every which way and plant myself all over that turf. We joust and banter. Would she do all and more in 50 E? She wants a hundred 60 M commitment. I resist and say that if she is good, she will get 60 M. Finally she yields and we head up. She does give some kissing, and her BJ is world class. For such a tiny girl, she takes my entire length in her mouth, generates a ton of swirling spit and I am now swimming in her saliva. Shit, it is a well known biological fact, established after a lot of clinical trials, that a man's health and longevity is improved vastly if his dick spends at least half hour every day swimming in a girls swirling saliva and that's what I had going with this dame. I didn't achieve a cum shot with this girl, but that's only because I didn't try hard enough. I made a note to myself that if I had difficulty achieving a shot by the day's end, I should book her for an encore as she is the type that gets my flow going.
Jazz. As I was sauntering around on late Monday afternoon, I ran into Jazz. A friend from ISG had recommended her in a private msg. Slightly sagging tits, and a slightly taller girl than I prefer. Body is lithe and supple but not as skinny and small as I prefer. But face is very pleasant, nice blonde. Worked in UK, lived in the Kensington area, studied there and escorted although not with much success she added. How much did she make in London? 500 pounds an hour. She did not get to keep all of that ofc, a large percent went to the agency. Still, here you could fuck her for 100 E. Less than a fifth of the London price. Fuck, this is what the economists call labor arbitrage. As a good capitalist, I needed to take advantage of this, and pronto we headed up. She is a fine girl, allows a lot even in 50 E, and was a delightful all around experience. Absolutely recommended, even if I did not score a goal. As someone famous said (I think it was a famous guy; and if he was not famous, he ought to be) the journey is the point of pleasure, not the destination.
Vanessa. I have to say, I have never had good luck or experience with fish tank girls. I wondered, is there a regional personality? For some reason, I have found several gems at the Magda couch. The bar chair girls are OK for me. Pole dance girls are snooty as we all know. Rosanna couch girls used to be good, now not so much. But fish tank? Not much. Surprisingly, I had sampled Vanessa, Ivana, Alexa and a couple of more from the fish tank group, despite my mediocre experiences with them. Anyway, back to Vanessa. I know I had seen her before, and when I checked my June trip report, her name was in the LU. Still, perhaps I did not consider her seriously back then. Don't know why. A closer look and she is soooo darn attractive facially. Very pretty smile. Slightly bigger than I prefer but still has to be called slim. Her face, oh my. Probably the prettiest face in Sharks for me, along with Xenia at the moment. She negotiates for a all you can eat for 100 E. All you can eat as in normal, not extras stuff. But the session in the room quickly goes down the hill. She reminded me again why fish tank girls SUCK. Constant whining. Too much this, too much that. And begins to time cheat. It is only 15 min but claims "nearly half the time is up and when do we fuck. ". I said sorry babe, your math is wrong, here take a look at my watch and only 15 min so far. Now she is genuinely pissed. Claims I am watching the clock, that is not good, blah blah. If her intention was to destroy my mood and sour the session, she succeeds mightily. I was even more pissed, and didn't want to yield to her shady tactics and prolonged the session to at least 50th minute even though I had no mood after some time. Still, kissing her, running and playing her tits, and ofc the fucking was somewhat satisfactory in a purely physical sense. Will not repeat however, no way Jose.
Aphelia. Or is that Ophelia. I was sitting upstairs on the couch, looking down into the main hall and kitchen. I like this spot. My second fav place to station myself, after the waterfall area. I can look at all the girls and men and the various pairs nteracting in an effort to copulate imminently. Best place to people watch, especially given that the female half of the equation is buck naked. Anyway, first this Polish girl Kati tried to sell me her wares. I shoo her away with I am not ready excuse. In less than a minute, this young chick comes over. One look and I am about to send her packing as well. Her face is pretty enough and smiling and cute but body is far from my ideal. And when I say far, better believe it. She has a few pounds too many on herself and she is only 21. Or 20, forgot. But I wanted to hear her story, and she perches herself next to me. Says she is from Ukraine. Hello. That piques my interest. Really, you are from UKR? How did you manage to get a work visa? She says her parents lived in Bulgaria a while ago, and have a Bulgarian dual citizenship and so does she. Plausible? Yes, I guess. Anyway, I am not one of those people that need to quiz the girl with all kinds of weird questions to ascertain her story and nationality. Then she says she is brand new. As in, literally 20 min in the club. I would be her first customer to the monger world. I have always wanted to break a cherry and I guess this is my opportunity, LOL? I asked her if she will be nice to me, and she says OK. So, we go the corner cave, next to the men's sleeping recliners. I like this last room. The bed is much large larger than in a typical room and you can roll around with the girl as much as you want. True to her word, her service is top notch. Fuck, is it really your first room ever baby? Absolutely no hesitation, no uncertainty. I asked if she worked in Bulgaria but she said only in restaurants and such, never as a hooker. Whether that is fib or the truth, her kissing was deep and passionate, she lets fingers freely roam her inner parts and her blow job and BLS were top class. My digits were like Ponce de Leon inside her pussy, desperately searching for the fountain of youth. I would not have thought that a girl like that would get me off but after all the horse play, when the old in and out began I was primed and ready and had no difficulty in achieving a climax.
I saw her the next day as well, but she had already picked up a couple of friends. Think she said she will not stay too long as she may be exploring which club fits her the best. If you are service oriented and looks are not your number one, you could do worse than giving this young Ukrainian girl a chance. Worth every penny.
Friday:
Last day. Always bitter sweet. I still have my last day but I am already feeling that I will have to leave and go back. In the past, this pale gloom and palpable desolation from the impending departure were even worse but the thoughts of my sugar babes is keeping my spirits up this time around. Checked out, load my bags in the trunk, and enjoy a nice meal at the Vapianos. Not the pasta of Florence but a reasonably OK imitation. One of my fav places to eat in Darmstadt.
Mischa: Spotted this gorgeous girl on Thursday afternoon. Her face is pretty enough, but OMG that body. Something to die for. She is roughly 165 cm, small perky tits, brownish hair, cute face, and the tightest body one can imagine. Perhaps not everyone cares for that type, but I get goosebumps just thinking about her body. Unfortunately, never managed to snag her on Thursday. So, as I got in on Friday afternoon and got settled in I spotted her standing next to the kitchen entrance. Went over and said Hello,. She said do you want to talk more leisurely and we walk over all the way to the dark couches beyond the fish tank. Name is Mischa. Says she has been at the club for nearly two years. Oh wow. How did I miss her this long? She sounds strict. Does not kiss in 50 E, and 100 nets you only LFK I guess. Yes, BBBJ is on the menu but for 100. And so on. Her manner is not hostile but not super friendly either. Just as I knew I had to try Esra just for her looks, I knew I would need to sample this beauty as well. On my death bed, I will be counting how many pretty pussies my dick has sampled and Mischa shall surely make that list assuming my brain is not friend with Alzheimer's by then anyway, ba is these morbid thoughts for now. We go to a room. She is nice but again, manner is slightly brusque. But not damn it, just rubbing, kneading, caressing her super tout body with my own and my hands and mouth is worth the measly 50 E and more. I turned her around on her tummy and rubbed my face on those butt cheeks, how deliciously scrumptious those looked?! We did do some perfunctory intercourse, but it was to sample that body I took this session. I knew there was no chance of finishing, not in a 50 E session.
Later on, I wondered however. If she had been more friendly, she might have gotten the 400, as Xenia did. Perhaps if I had promised 400, even Mischa may have been a friendly and accommodating as Xenia was to me. But Xenia gave me all that and more with no promise of large sums and long sessions. Whereas Mischa was curt and businesslike and that cost her what could have been a longish session. That body surely counts among my top 10 best of all time I sampled personally in the FKKs.
Viorica.
I was wondering if I was going to see Viorica on this trip and need not have worried. I ran into her right away on late Sunday afternoon. I called her out as she was walking by me, but she was busy with someone and barely said Hi. I waited for my time and caught hold of her by her beloved machines later that evening.
A digression. I had sessioned with Viorica just a few months ago, more than once, and not short sessions either. She was very nice to me on that trip and was one of the better girls for me on that trip. But when I began talking to her, she gave me a weird look and had almost no recollection of my time with her from June. And this was true for Zyenep, and a few other girls. This relates to the discussion that these girls remember thousands of customers, but here these girls forgot my face in less than 5 months.
Anyway, I told Viorica to wait up for me as I wanted to take a shower. Sure enough, I come out and she is gone. And this kept repeating. Somehow or other, we kept missing each other. She was also not in on Monday and Thursday. Finally, I got hold of her on Friday evening and headed upstairs.
I am aware that she seems to have become moody occasionally as UncleOx described but my one session turned out to be fine. She is still very playful. Service is just fine. She is very open to ideas. Not much is off the table. She shyly confessed to me that she added anal to her repertoire recently, but that is not my cup of tea. Kissing, BBBJ, even BLS are all absolutely available and generously. She would try to tickle me, try to bite naughtily or do other kinky stufff and bursts out laughing. She genuinely has fun in the room. She did have a bit of smoky breath which subtracts from the kissing if that's something that bothers you. We spent roughly 90 M in the room. However, while the session was fun and full of sparkle, my man decided he had enough and went to a deep sleep mode. At the one hour mark, after a lot of oral stimulation and other fun activities we got down to some fucking but I did not last more than 10 min before I was down to half mast. She gamely tried various other tricks to revive him but to no avail. I did reward with a 20 tip for her efforts but this less than stellar performance by little Jnpr left me deflated and downbeat. That said, she is still golden and is quite highly recommended.
XENIA.
The session with Viorica left me deflated. It was like, I had used up my biggest weapon and the enemy was still still standing. Viorica was after all, my man Friday of prior trip. When all else failed, she was my closer, my own Mariano Rivera. If Little JNPR sleeps despite the ministrations of Viorica, what hope can other girls engender? Didn't the punditry class of ISG, McA+KK+Optimist discuss mental well being and being wholesome? Here I was in my own psychosomatic hell. The bevy of naked bitches, which by now numbered more than 150 in my imprecise counting, were hounding and tempting men with promises of sexual heaven. The club was at its busiest. And yet, I was walking around like a zombie. I explained to one or two girls that I was not in a good batting condition, but they disbelieved me and said "you are lyng, you don't have any money" and walked away. Is that a worse insult, to be broke than to be soft? I was feeling flummoxed, perplexed, flabbergasted. (OK, those are all the high falutin words I know and this seemed like a good place to insert them). In frustration, I went upstairs to sleep but my mind was constantly screaming at the idiot downstairs that I have only a few more hours in the land of sex and what the fuck is wrong with you? I gave up my feeble attempt at rest and sleep, and headed down again. It was around midnight now, and that's when I saw Xenia on the Magda couches.
Quick aside. Does anyone have any objection if we nominate that fine mongering specimen, UncleOx, to be the casting agent for ISG? I am sure this gentleman is good at whatever his day job is. But you sir, if you are not transitioned to a casting man's role, are in the wrong profession. Take my word for it.
In a PM, before I left to DE, UncleOx recommended that I should take Xenia and even indicated her station. I had been hovering her normal location for 3 1/2 days but she was never there as she was on vacation. I guess she did come in on Friday afternoon, but she was constantly booked. Some god somewhere took pity on me, and as I made one last round I saw this bewitching girl. I found her name, and when she told me I grabbed her hand and headed upstairs before some evil ruffian grabbed her away from me. Another stroke of luck and we found the VIP room free and available.
Now a few words about this girl. She is just a few months past 18 and yet has been with the club a few months already. She used to have brown hair I think but now has a blondish streak, somewhat wild in fact. Facially, she is really pretty in my view. Her bod is not my ideal. If I could put her head on Mischa's body, I would do it. Not to say she does n't have a super body. She has the right amount of subcutaneous baby fat, which is far better for a roving monger's hands and his pressing fingers than a model tight bod like Mischa's in many ways. But her heart is made of gold. Just pure, unadulterated joy. The one adjective that constantly comes to mind when thinking of her is super adorable. And yet, she is not naive nor gullible. She is somewhat experienced in Rom even prior to Sharks and knows the lay of the land, so to speak. She is able to size up the customer quickly and provide what her man needs. I quickly explained that I was on my fourth day of clubbing and junior was sore and tired and sleepy and needs careful handling and lots of tender love. And she understood totally and instinctively. We spent first half hour just with slow and then deep and passionate kissing. Some small talk, but mostly spent on lots of kissing, body rubbing, and tight cuddling. My hands were exploring all that wonderful body had to offer, every nook and crevice. She asked if I wanted to go to one hour, and I said Lets not worry about time. She did want to terminate at one hour and then at two hours as she was exhausted and was somewhat tired from travel. But I insisted and she gave up her protestations and stayed as long as I needed. Altogether, we stayed for four hours to the wee hours of the morning. Umpteen times she gave a slow, tender blow job just the kind of nursing that was truly needed by junior at that time, given how tender, red and somewhat painful it was for me otherwise. She would make me hard, then I would ask her to switch to my balls and she happily did. Then, she would resurface and we would make out. I was in no mood to fuck, nor was I fully fed yet. She must have made me hard with her oral skills at least six times, and never once complained. (OK, the cynics here will say "why wouldn't she, she is getting paid for four hours". If so, you didn't see all those money grubbing hookers of Sharks who refuse to give blow job a second or third time, regardless of how much money you pay.). Her perfume was delicate and yet enticing. And her kisses are soft, deep and just the sweetest. And for such a young girl, she has magnificent oral skills. We finally started fucking and amazingly, my dick was not that sore anymore and her pussy fit me like a glove, and I don't mean OJ's glove. I was so glad I could finish inside her as she rode me to my heart's joy. She so much reminded me of my short and one trip stint with Regina a while ago. However, Regina was all about sex as her language skills are very limited, whereas Xenia is very welll spoken and is a total angel in any which way possible.
Coming down the stairs at 4 AM, the club was almost empty. I had an early morning flight, and had checked out of my hotel the previous day and bags loaded in my car. Quickly took a shave and a shower and got back to the bar for rounds of capppuccno and coffee. There was a fellow countryman in a similar state, who had been doing ten straight days of clubbing! He too had a flight in less than couple of hours. We compared notes, as we were injecting our bodies with copious amounts of caffeine. A girl, don't remember her name, came to bug him for a last session and it was nearly 4:30 AM now he seriously considered it and passed only because he claimed he was out of money. Dude, this guy is my hero. I wish I had such levels of appropriate harmones flowing through my body. Jennifer was ruefully sitting across the bar from me. I had promised her around 10 PM that I might take her as my last session for a second round of depraved debauchery. She saw me going up the stairs with Xenia, and she saw me coming down nearly four hours later, and she probably wondered what more she needs to do to similarly obtain a 4 hour session. She had too much class to make a ruckus and nasty remark to me; I know a few others who would have, under similar circumstances. Sorry Jennifer, it was not you it was Moi.
And now back in the US, I feel a dull ache as I am reminded of Xenia and all the other young beauties I had sex with. But especially Xenia. So many kudos to UncleOx for his great discovery.
A few other observations.
Young Turk was still not there. I hope he is alright, still young, and still solvent. Neither was the local dude who some people here unkindly termed hermaphrodite in. Wish both of them the best.
The old German dancing dude who likes to dance with girls was in. I however did not see him dancing. Old German dancing dude. I do enjoy your dancing steps even if they are slow. Hope you bust out a move on my next visit.
There were way too many girls. I printed nearly a hundred girls' names above and I forgot a few names. Yet, wherever I looked, there were 3 girls whose names I did not know for every girl I knew. Granted, the above list of mine is a compilation of all the girls I saw and talked to over 4 days and not on a single day. That said, I have no doubt that in peak hours, the totals approached 150 or more.
Mina. A very pretty girl. I think she is Xenia’s roomie now? Do they put the best looking girls together? I had one small chance to bag her and then she disappeared on Sunday. Xenia said she was in on Friday too but I never even saw her. Was constantly booked. Tells you something.
Is there any one single superstar of Sharks anymore? As perhaps Roxanna, Evita, and maybe one or two others. And before peopl jump on me, superstar here is not necessarily the best because that is subjective but the busiest, most in demand girl. With this many girls, don’t think it is likely to have one such megastar any longer.
The fee is now hiked to 105 E per girl, I was told. Used to be 100 but they had to buy condoms previously for 5 E. Now, condoms are free but fee is hiked to 105. A few girls I talked to were not happy about this change, even if the effective hike is only a buck or two.
A few members had posited here that if entry fee was canceled for the girls, that would bring in more girls and improve services to all. Well, fee was very slightly hiked in fact. And the club is filled to the brim with girls. I had pointed out a few months ago that beyond a certain number, the club doesn't have the physical capacity to take in more girls and that is exactly where they are today. And yet, even with this massive number of girls, service is not any better.
I do have to say, the optic quality is pretty darn good. Yes, there are a number of buffaloes as Syz called them. But also, a big enough number of slim, lithe, pretty young girls exist. If you can't find good enough girls to fuck among them, perhaps you need to look at yourself in the mirror, and then see a shrink to figure out what's wrong with you.
To me, it is amazing that the number of girls is at the highest a full year after the new laws kicked in. There were a number of prognostications made in the immediate aftermath of June 2017. No need to rehash, a simple prerusal of old comments will do. But almost all the forecasts tuned out to be wrong. The only thing that is somewhat accurate is that total effective pricing, averaged across all the girls and all sessions is probably slightly higher, but then again, pricing has been going up gradually for a while at Sharks. Well before the new law was implemented. There are still girls who give all and more for the text book price what I paid to Jennifer for what she did, I can guarantee that no one provided the same service for me for the same price in 2013. And I have no doubt that if I relaxed my optical thresholds a bit, I can get even better services from lower optics / body girls.
Finally, I am more convinced than before that given my distressingly lower levels of libidinous ability, sugar babe situation works much better for me. The only reason I tried 15 girls in 4 days was because I was in DE and have no idea when my next trip will be. I will not be shocked if any given trip is my last trip. As such, I am gorging myself, as someone who is starved and doesn't know when and where his next meal will come. Accordingly, the pleasure from these sessions diminishes rapidly. About the only thing I enjoy is seeing the full parade of TAP (tits, asses, and pussies). That will never get old or stale for me. That said, I would be ecstatic with most of my 15 girls as sugar babes back home in the US, they were all that good (most, but not all).
TankTank123
11-20-18, 07:26
Jnpr,
Thank you for a really excellent report. It provides me valuable information on some girls I had been considering but had not yet tried due to uncertainty on what they would be prepared to do.
As for 'hermaphrodite', he was present at Sharks yesterday. Last month, he was camping out in FKK World for a change. He probably left World and returned to Sharks when he could not find a couch to lie on horizontally. Furthermore, there is no grand staircase there for him to survey and whistle at the girls coming down.
Poor chap could not get a place at his usual couch at Sharks yesterday either as without Janine and her bodyguards to secure the area, it was continually occupied by other groups of customers.
Back to the subject of girls, there was a remarkably large line up yesterday for a Monday. I wonder how they can make enough money overall when there were not that many men.
ExpatLover
11-20-18, 07:30
You are saying you are a tourist probably not in the best situation to say if the LU are down with the implementation of the new law, yes for me they are down just because less and less new and fresh girls enter the job, a lot of veteran around. I don t fuck girls who are for years in the business.
Kosher Kowboy
11-20-18, 09:34
Jnpr,
Thank you for a really excellent report.I second that.
Great review of your experiences and well written.
KK.
Nick The G
11-20-18, 11:56
It is a joke that tax authorities are scanning these lists for tax compliance. Last year, people made the dubious claim that what is written here will lead to convictions for violations of the new law. That was laughable then, and this claim about tax verification is equally absurd.IMHO you expect too much in too short a time. It is a projection of the need for instant sex via pay sex onto the instant effects of a new law. Some patience please, the politicians and the authorities are working slowly, it will take until the laws are enforced. But they will be enforced. In Germany!
IMHO you expect too much in too short a time.... the politicians and the authorities are working slowly, it will take until the laws are enforced. But they will be enforced. In Germany!Yes enforcement of the July 2017law is happening slowly and so far only in certain aspects. I would not be foolish enough to predict the eventual outcome but do know (so far as I can know anything) that authorities are not ignorant of the possibility of sex forums providing information useful to them.
My reasons for saying this.
One club was subject to repeated raids, and a member of staff who I knew well said the authorities had asked questions based on information in sex forums. It was only a very very minor element, but it was still mentioned.
Another club was raided and girls hauled into the tax offices to settle unpaid taxes. A girl told me that the authorities had used line up lists as part of their negotiations with her.
Of course this proves nothing for the future, but, if what I was told is true, does indicate possibilities
JNPR30. Brilliant report.I love the conversation details as they give a real picture of how it works in Sharks. Invaluable.
Nick The G
11-20-18, 13:01
Patricia blonde Bulgarian fake big titsWell known Patricia, working for years already in Sharks, one of the best booked women around, almost everybody knows she is from Republic of Moldova. Never call a woman from Romania / Moldova a bulgarian!
BTW, lately there seems to be an influx of moldovian women in the club.
Is that a misinterpretation? As judging from your latest trip report, to me it appears that one of the benefits of getting older is that sometimes writing about sex is much more enyoyable and takes longer than the act itself.
Member #4581
11-20-18, 14:02
Well known Patricia, working for years already in Sharks, one of the best booked women around, almost everybody knows she is from Republic of Moldova. Never call a woman from Romania / Moldova a bulgarian!
BTW, lately there seems to be an influx of moldovian women in the club.
Is that a misinterpretation? As judging from your latest trip report, to me it appears that one of the benefits of getting older is that sometimes writing about sex is much more enyoyable and takes longer than the act itself.Ha, you are not far off, Nick, LOL. Don't the old locals go to the club to chat on Sundays and not for sex? Writing reports is no different. It took me nearly two hours to type up that stuff. That said, if I can trade two hours of sex with Xenia to erase every trace of my report, I will take it (sex with Xenia,that is) LOL.
Oops, I haven't talked to Patricia in more than 2 years. Somehow, I remembered her as being from Bulgaria and have been noting as such in all my reports for a while. You are the first one who called me out on this.
But this also goes to the problems in using anon forum notes by LE. These reports of ours are fraught with inaccuracies, typos, falsehoods, intentional and even malicious lies, and whatever else. This is what they will base some of their actions on?
As for Rom vs Moldavian, yes I agree with you. So many girls claim they are from Moldovia. When asked if they were Rom, quite a few snapped back "NO, Moldovian! As if the former is an insult and the latter is an honor.
PS. Thx TT123, KK, and Optimist. Highly appreciated.
I spent 4 days in Sharks in the recent past. The club is hopping and humming, more alive than ever, and filled to the brim with eminently fuckable girls. If you have an urge to pump a few young lasses and release all that pent up excess energy, this is as good a time as any and Sharks is absolutely the right place to achieve your carnal goals.
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XENIA.
Now a few words about this girl. She is just a few months past 18 and yet has been with the club a few months already.Jnpr30,
Brilliant report! Very entertaining. Very informative.
Xenia is my "dream girl" in my reports. Not only is she one of prettiest girls (to me at this moment) at Sharks, but also she has adorable nature and affectionate personality. So I suggested you to pay attention to her. Fortunately you finally caught her at your fourth day of trip. I am glad to know that you had fabulous time with Xenia. You might be the first one who gave her a 4-hour-session. Haha.
Again, great job!
ExpatLover
11-20-18, 19:22
Jnpr30,
Brilliant report! Very entertaining. Very informative.
Xenia is my "dream girl" in my reports. Not only is she one of prettiest girls (to me at this moment) at Sharks, but also she has adorable nature and affectionate personality. So I suggested you to pay attention to her. Fortunately you finally caught her at your fourth day of trip. I am glad to know that you had fabulous time with Xenia. You might be the first one who gave her a 4-hour-session. Haha.
Again, great job!They are all prostitutes playing with us to suck as much cash as possible by giving the less possible we should all never forget this key point.
Member #4636
11-20-18, 21:21
What an amazing post man!
But really how the hell do you remember so many names? Do you right them down after they tell you? LOL.
Hi gentlemen,
Has anyone seen Jill recently?
She is a German and she is very pretty with short hair.
She is always sitting in a bar next to the restaurant with friend.
Last year, people made the dubious claim that what is written here will lead to convictions for violations of the new law.This probably is not directed at me. But for the record, I agree with the statement that Neurosynth often repeats ad nauseam "CBJ law is unenforcible". My prediction then, and now, is that not a single monger will ever be convicted. My point then, and now, is that "convictions" are not the only negative consequences. Legal authorities and human rights activists read the forums because they want insight into our "depraved" minds. Legal authorities and human rights activists could prove to be the voices that change public opinion and force the adoption of the Nordic Model in Germany.
Quite simply: the best damned report I've seen in many, many moons; top-notch writing, totally informative and, at times, introspective and self-effacing. Exactly what one wants to find posted here! "Thanks" just doesn't do it.
Just a small note: Like you, I also recently discovered and sessions with "Zeyneb", a quite cute (quasi-moody) girl. I was very pleased with both optics and service levels. However, in the latter stages of your report you made some comments about the risky quality of the so-called "Fishtank" crew, comments that I and probably many others agree with. Yet, at least last week or two, Zeyneb's "spot" was exactly by the fishtank, so there are always exceptions, like Mila also, whose spot is the pole. Dance stage but she is very sweet and (for me at least) fantastic in room, not "high-nosed" snooty Princess- type like so many others of that group.
Once again: Brilliant contribution!
Yes enforcement of the July 2017law is happening slowly and so far only in certain aspects. I would not be foolish enough to predict the eventual outcome but do know (so far as I can know anything) that authorities are not ignorant of the possibility of sex forums providing information useful to them.Authorities and human rights activists want to paint mongers as villains (see link below). They do read the sex forums for insight into the monger's mind. They want the world to know about the "violation of human rights" that occurs in the brothels of Germany. They want the world to know that mongers are these depraved vampires that prey on young girls. Mongers demand these "unsafe" services, and contribute to an environment where young girls are forced (economic pressure) to perform these unsafe acts for each and every customer.
https://www.scribd.com/document/184666612/Prostitution-in-Deutschland-Von-Helmut-Sporer-Kripo-Augsburg
The link above is a paper presented by Helmut Sporer (Kriminalpolizeiinspektion Augsburg). On page 4, he discusses mongers ("Freier" Paragraph 5 specifically mentions internet sites where mongers discuss topics intensively. He is also talking about new trends he is noticing (I. E. How mongers are becoming more depraved and bold).
Sharks has fewer girl, but was never so small. Armos is small. 50 girls is enough. I have that at world now and that's absolutely enough. Sharks will nit close its doors if tourist will not come from Asia or the US. Its core clients are Europeans. Crossing the borders from France or taking a short flight from London is not really a big deal. I have friends who almost weekly from Torin and I don't consider them fly in. Sharks will not close its door with out fly in mongers. World is slow, but still have some perfect days there. Point remains the same: big clubs are not, were not and will not be depended on fly in mongers. Fact.Katalina now at Globe worked at Sharks on 2013 and told me, compare to April 2016 when I discovered her, before following her at Globe, then advised Megan about. 30/40 girls on 2013 , about 50 on week ends on 2014 , when I discovered on February, tried for first Roxana before silicon, Dina, Cosmina who was brunette, Andrea. Bu, but when I found Isabella who was with Laura now mum at Oase, then previous couldn't compete.
When most of Germans don't give much business to girls, same for turkish who prefer bottles than girls at night, 150 girls could not eat without tourists and they usually pay more expensive, overcharged, or tipping.
When I read about Svenja who is lovely, but when she spoke about Globe, we with a Swiss guy told her she is not on level.
I would be happy to find elegant beauty like Andrea. Du who claimed after to be Ukrainian when she worked between Sharks and Oase, would be motivated for such beauty, but didn't see any on my last visits.
Steve 9696
11-21-18, 00:20
Well JPR, that was not only a report of distinction, it was a damn fine piece of prose and frankly the best Field Report I've ever read. Great combo of intel, letting the rest of us live the dream vicariously, and literally laugh out loud funny in several spots. Well done sir!
The one insight I might have is on girls not remembering you. The one little tiff I got into with Thifany in London was when she wanted to buy some Ecstacy from a shady Nigerian dude. We avoided that little fiasco; but later, when cooler heads prevailed, she told me about X from her POV. For her, it makes her just really happy and friendly and just has the best time with everyone. The only side effect is she really can't remember anything or anyone during that time.
I don't think it would be surprising at all that some of the club girls do X and as a result don't remember you later. This could explain the mystery!
P.S. Drug afficianados please don't flame me. This is just what I was told.
Nick The G
11-21-18, 00:32
https://www.scribd.com/document/184666612/Prostitution-in-Deutschland-Von-Helmut-Sporer-Kripo-Augsburg
The link above is a paper presented by Helmut Sporer (Kriminalpolizeiinspektion Augsburg). On page 4, he discusses mongers ("Freier" Paragraph 5 specifically mentions internet sites where mongers discuss topics intensively. He is also talking about new trends he is noticing (I. E. How mongers are becoming more depraved and bold).Helmut Sporer was giving this talk in 2013 in Brussels. And in many points he was right, I would say. These points mentioned by him and other insights led to the new prostitution law in Germany, and with regards to FKK-club Sharks, became effective in the county of Hesse in January 2018.
They want the world to know that mongers are these depraved vampires that prey on young girls.I am sure he would be very much interested in the research published in the latest epic work of Jnpr30. (big smiley).
What a fate for these romanian girls: they want to escape the romanian vampires and they end up being confronted with the army of international vampires flooding german brothels (NeoVampirism).
Member #4581
11-21-18, 04:32
Steve9696, Ortos, UncleOx, and Pksimar thank you all very much for your especially kind words.
I reread my long note and in some places the spelling was so atrocious and words and phrases mangled terribly. Sorry about that. I typed up the report on my iPad and the virtual keyboard plus spell correct combo sometimes leads to weird stuff. Hope you got the gist of it, and if not you didn't miss much, LOL.
Ortos you are probably right. She was quite busy most of the time on the days I was in and I don't think I got a good sense of her preferred location. I guess not all fish tank girls are sharks, LOL.
On my prior trip, I typed up her name as Zainab. Some other gentleman corrected me a while later, saying Zainab is a Pakistani name and Zyenep or Zyeneb was the right spelling. I will go with the b instead of p then. She is pretty good now, and very clearly better than in June. Wish I had grabbed her a couple of more times.
Steve9696. I like your explanation. I was thinking it was just my face and tse tse personality that brings out any dormant amnesia from these girls. I think your clarification sounds better 😀😀
PK: I know roughly half the girls from the past. I do write down the names of new girls on my phone, once at the half way point and then at the end of the day. I bet I have a good number of typos and errors, as Nick pointed out re: Patricia.
UncleOx: thanks for the Xenia tip again. Yeah, You are right. I was in real time communication with a friend and he said "4 hrs is a long Session for you". Scary, this guy seems to know the mongering side of me than I know of myself, LOL. Normally, I never do more than 90 min. I had a handful with Tatiana at 2 to 2 1/2 hours, and had one long session with Aylice just once at 3 to 4 hrs. I think if I had met Xenia every day it would have been more normal but given that I met her so late in the trip, I just stayed with her More or less till closing time. But she is quite popular already and has a number of customers. I just hope she stays at Sharks and not move on to greener pastures.
Fkk84: yes, Jill was in. I have listed her in my LU.
TankTank123
11-21-18, 08:52
On my prior trip, I typed up her name as Zainab. Some other gentleman corrected me a while later, saying Zainab is a Pakistani name and Zyenep or Zyeneb was the right spelling. I will go with the b instead of p then.When I asked her to spell out her name during a session I had with her the week after she first arrived she said it was Z-E-Y-N-E-P.
Nick The G
11-21-18, 14:54
When I asked her to spell out her name during a session I had with her the week after she first arrived she said it was Z-E-Y-N-E-P.Zeynep is correct. Knowing the turkish origin and using the internet possibilities, it is so easy nowadays to find the correct spelling, e. G. Here:
https://www.babynamesdirect.com/girl/zeynep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeynep
One of the meanings of "Zeynep": Daughter of the Prophet Muhammed!
Zeynep is correct. Knowing the turkish origin and using the internet possibilities, it is so easy nowadays to find the correct spelling, e. G. Here:
https://www.babynamesdirect.com/girl/zeynep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeynep
One of the meanings of "Zeynep": Daughter of the Prophet Muhammed!Why don't we just call her "Zena, the Wonder Girl" and be done with it?
P.S. Drug afficianados please don't flame me. This is just what I was told.Well, I'll try not to flame. That is not X, not in the least. Ecstasy has no memory impairment side effects. The rest does sound accurate though. In any case not a drug to do everyday.
And if only. If it was widely taken on a particular day by the girls that day would be known as your greatest mongering day, period.
Hi guys,
What do you think of Eleanor? The brunette girl with light eyes sitting on the left of the stairs for the whirlpool area?
ExpatLover
11-21-18, 20:15
Well, I'll try not to flame. That is not X, not in the least. Ecstasy has no memory impairment side effects. The rest does sound accurate though. In any case not a drug to do everyday.
And if only. If it was widely taken on a particular day by the girls that day would be known as your greatest mongering day, period.Better to keep a clear head, even I will never drink any alcohol in a club or with a prostitute.
Jnpr30,
Thank you very much for your reply.
Your writing is very impressive.
But Jill does not have a fake breasts. Her breasts are natural.
And not blonde anyway Jill is in Shark.
Thanks for all your reports and the recommendation of Mila last night, she was great.
I had actually read all your reports before meeting you at Sharks last night. Didn't realise it was you until I got home though and reread the posts about Arya.
As a fellow newbie to the FKK, your reports helped a lot.
It would have been great if we met earlier, the experience is a lot more fun if you have some people to talk to in between sessions I think.
Just a heads up on the Frankfurt train ticket cost. The weekly 25 euro ticket only covers the Frankfurt areas closer to the city, it is region 3. Darmstadt is region 5 so it is a more expensive ticket, about 16.5 euro for a daily ticket.
I found the bus from Darmstadt to be easy, as well as walking 15 minutes from Darmstadt-Nord so never had to take a taxi from the station.Hey man!
Didn't realize you were that guy either. Its funny sometimes how things go. Yeah it would have been so much more fun to actually talk with someone in between sessions. I kinda wanted to be on the low end from people knowing who I was but at the last day it became one of my biggest regrets since I also met another group of people that was on here too and we had a great chat. If I had said something here I might have had a bit more fun in between sessions. You never know though we might meet each other in the future. Cause I know for sure I will revisit.
I'm happy you had a good time with Arya / Milla. She is by far one of my most favorite girls. Anita is however my favorite one and she is a bit more on the "calm" side rather than Millas more fiery personality. Both are rank 1&2 in my book in any case.
Yeah I found out about that 25 euro ticket the hard way LOL, I got past 3 people doing controls but the fourth guy told me about it and I apologized and said I honestly had no idea and he gave me a pass if I paid for just 1 one way ticket. Lucky me!
PussyLiccker
11-22-18, 02:18
When I was having my 'lunch', a red-haired girl was also eating there. Presuming that she is the Viorica that Uncle Ox reported so highly about a few months ago, I asked her when she left the restaurant whether she was free for a session. She said she was not, and then went to the pinball machine. Looks like here was a girl who preferred to spend money than to make money! (Or maybe she has hit upon a technique to milk the machine.).I had no idea who this Viorica was until somebody mentioned how great her service is. I never would have expected it by the looks of her on the floor. Supposedly, in the room she does her magic.
That was Viorica you talked to. Supposedly, she gets really glued to the machine, and she'd rather be on machines at times. So, it's just bad timing. It sounds like you really can't go wrong with her.
Authorities and human rights activists want to paint mongers as villains (see link below). They do read the sex forums for insight into the monger's mind. They want the world to know about the "violation of human rights" that occurs in the brothels of Germany. They want the world to know that mongers are these depraved vampires that prey on young girls. Mongers demand these "unsafe" services, and contribute to an environment where young girls are forced (economic pressure) to perform these unsafe acts for each and every customer.
https://www.scribd.com/document/184666612/Prostitution-in-Deutschland-Von-Helmut-Sporer-Kripo-Augsburg
The link above is a paper presented by Helmut Sporer (Kriminalpolizeiinspektion Augsburg). On page 4, he discusses mongers ("Freier" Paragraph 5 specifically mentions internet sites where mongers discuss topics intensively. He is also talking about new trends he is noticing (I. E. How mongers are becoming more depraved and bold).Well, perhaps he missed the whole anti-social-justice-warrior humor which can be a major part of these online forums. A bounce back from all the over the top feminism in politics and media lately. So we get these guys like Jordan Peterson, or the gamer who hit a feminist he later fed to a crockodile in red dead redemption 2 and got banned from youtube for it. This is the online sphere. Like a computer game. Its not real!
But to claim we abuse the girls is a massive lie. By far the majority in here treat these girls like princesses or queens (as long as there is a budget for it). But he won't know that before he tries it himself. Or maybe with him, it would be abuse because he may be an idiot and a dumpster himself. Thinking he knows others best through himself. (I'm just writing this in case he reads it). I guess he should meet Silvana or Olympia (sharks) at a tight corridor for example if he believes there is only young tender girls around.
Member #4581
11-22-18, 03:25
Jnpr30,
Thank you very much for your reply.
Your writing is very impressive.
But Jill does not have a fake breasts. Her breasts are natural.
And not blonde anyway Jill is in Shark.Thanks Fkk84.
There was one Jill at the German tables.
Slightly older look.
(In general, the women hanging out at the German tables seem to be older and not as slim. I don't know how many of them are German but I still call them German tables).
This Jill is somewhat playful. Came upto me and asked "hey I am Jill, do you want to prostitute me?" And laughed out loud.
I shouldn't have said fake tits. I didn't feel them up. They looked a bit big and fake to me, but I could be wrong.
She is tall (170 cm or more).
P.S. Who is the slim blonde with back fully tattooed that also hangs out by the German tables? Has slightly older face, short blondish hair that she keeps in a pony tail. Has been around for a few years. I forgot her name. I have seen her on most of my visits and she was there in the club on every day of my visits last week. She never cheats on the FKK part and is always fully naked.
TankTank123
11-22-18, 04:32
P.S. Who is the slim blonde with back fully tattooed that also hangs out by the German tables? Has slightly older face, short blondish hair that she keeps in a pony tail. Has been around for a few years. I forgot her name. I have seen her on most of my visits and she was there in the club on every day of my visits last week. She never cheats on the FKK part and is always fully naked.She is "no kissing" Lara.
But there is another slim German girl there now. Had not had a chance to talk to her.
Helmut Sporer was giving this talk in 2013 in Brussels. And in many points he was right, I would say. These points mentioned by him and other insights led to the new prostitution law in Germany, and with regards to FKK-club Sharks, became effective in the county of Hesse in January 2018.
I am sure he would be very much interested in the research published in the latest epic work of Jnpr30. (big smiley).
What a fate for these romanian girls: they want to escape the romanian vampires and they end up being confronted with the army of international vampires flooding german brothels (NeoVampirism).Its a double edged sword really. We live in a capitalist world where people need to work for their money. Girls choose an usually well paid job in an FKK club over flipping burgers at a McDonalds and getting obese while doing it, sniffing in lard. And this Helmut guy claims the girls choosing the FKK are the ones being abused. The food industry is abusing us far more with their toxins. Sex is actually healthy, while junk food can give them cancer.
But there is also the side of this being a market place. Some guys seems to long for passion in these clubs, like that Australian 1200 men fucked prostitute wrote about; most guys searching for passion. Not sex. So when girls turn down passionate requests, or add in upselling for it, mongers may become depraved, or annoyed at mr. Helmut's new regulations. After all, we live in a world where sex robots is about to become a thing. But if everyone is being too politically correct all the time, then we turn into robots, and passion is lost in the process. But guys seems to want passion. And in the process, the market will be in danger of collapse as the girls are being told not to do this and that. And then these 'economically abused girls' (yes, irony) who makes more money in average than the average monger will loose their source of income. It is like this one escort told me a couple of months ago: "I do everything. Why the hell would I keep doing this job if I would be holding back on something? That would be like saying I don't like the job".
And the end result of Mr. Helmut the brave will finally be 10 000 new McDonald's recruits in Romania in 2030 instead of in an FKK. And 15 years later these saved fated girls will all have cancer or cardiac disease.
Somebody give him a medal!
Of course there is a limit on what to expect, but I am not sure the regulations goes there.
Until we have all basic income, this is how the world works!
Member #4581
11-22-18, 04:53
She is "no kissing" Lara.
But there is another slim German girl there now. Had not had a chance to talk to her.Thanks. I now see in my list a Lara and don't remember if it was this no kissing Lara or another Lara that I noted down.
BTW, despite the policy of two girls not having the same name, there were at least a few such pairs. I think there are two Selinas, two Patricias and perhaps one or two other pairs.
With so many girls, who the heck is enforcing the rule so strictly at the club and who is checking? No one I think.
The new girl you mention - could it be Leoni? She is German. Is she the one from Frankfurt? (I forgot, but I do remember speaking to a German girl who is local to FRA). Leoni is new. Has small tits, cute face, reasonably tall. But sometimes she hangs by the bar as well.
TankTank123
11-22-18, 05:31
Maybe that is similar to her name but I went with a Serena I think in the past was decent. Selina maybe? A few little blonds sit there oneOK, I guess your 'little' is larger than my 'little'. To me, the only little blond in the dance pole couches is Serena, while the only little brunette on those couches is Mina.
Anyway, in order to get the name of the somewhat less 'little' blonde who sits there and who has always aggressively hunted Asians, I asked her name on Monday and she said she was Selena. She has somewhat saggy boobs, if that would help you confirm she is indeed the one. I forgot to report this earlier until I saw Jnpr's post below.
Member #4581
11-22-18, 06:19
Yeah, Serena has small perky tits, can't be more than A size. She is also wrapping herself in a towel these days, don't know why because she is slim and pretty. Did she put on any weight, and does that explain the towel? Don't think I got a glimpse of her w / o the towel on this trip. She is also offering threesomes with that bigger, talller dirty blonde hair girl who has a pretty face and a spark in eyes, forgot her name. I had sessioned with the latter more than a year ago, was a waste of time. If I look up my old reports, I might remember her name. For a while she was part of the Cosmina / Evita gang.
Serena herself is a lousy service provider too. She gave me a CBJ, that I do remember. That was maybe a year ago, since then, I refused any more sessions with her, but she keeps asking me every time because she knows I went with her once. Unless I read here that she has truly changed for the better and service vastly improved, I will avoid her. A pity because she is pretty and very much my spec.
Selina has been around for a while. She indeed has the sagging tits. She is quite pleasant and talks to me on every trip. So far I haven't been with her, as her optics don't suit me well. I suspect she gives much better service than Serena. But if optics are not in the range, tough to get and stay excited in a session. There is a new brunette Selina who is a friend of the sagging tits blonde Selina.
Does Mina provide good service? I got to talk to her just once, and then never saw her again on Sunday. On Friday, she was apparently in the club but never even saw her. Constantly booked. She is hot. Either she also provides great service, or she is getting long and multiple bookings based just on looks.
new girl you mention - could it be Leoni? She is German. Is she the one from Frankfurt? (I forgot, but I do remember speaking to a German girl who is local to FRA). Leoni is new. Has small tits, cute face, reasonably tall. But sometimes she hangs by the bar as well.Leoni, De, about 26 yo. She is new now. But I am curious if she is the German girl "Leonie", who was a top-notch at Sharks a few years ago, mentioned by many ISGers at that time.
I had a session with her at this trip. OK session. I did want to give her another try, but Mandy came. I went with Mandy without hesitation. LOL.
TankTank123
11-22-18, 07:08
Yeah, Serena has small perky tits, can't be more than A size. She is also wrapping herself in a towel these days, don't know why because she is slim and pretty. Did she put on any weight, and does that explain the towel? .... Unless I read here that she has truly changed for the better and service vastly improved, I will avoid her. A pity because she is pretty and very much my spec.
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Does Mina provide good service? I got to talk to her just once, and then never saw her again on Sunday. On Friday, she was apparently in the club but never even saw her. Constantly booked. She is hot. Either she also provides great service, or she is getting long and multiple bookings based just on looks.No, Serena has not put on any weight. Either she is cold, or she is becoming self-conscious in being too slim. I take her now and then for single sessions just for the optics. And she has a very sweet character.
I have taken Mina a few times. She is very erratic. She behaves and talks like a naughty schoolgirl. So if you are in the mood to play-act bullying a naive schoolgirl, she could fit your needs. I extended to 90 minutes once with her as I happened to be in such a mood that day instead of doing serious fucking. When I am not in such a mood, then it might be hard to get past 1 session, as she is not that talented on the service side and instead tends to yak or moan (depending on her mood that day) a lot. And like a typical spoilt child, she only works 3-4 days a week and spends away all the money with her boyfriend on the other days, which is why you do not see her often in the club.
ExpatLover
11-22-18, 09:20
Yeah, Serena has small perky tits, can't be more than A size. She is also wrapping herself in a towel these days, don't know why because she is slim and pretty. Did she put on any weight, and does that explain the towel? Don't think I got a glimpse of her w / o the towel on this trip. She is also offering threesomes with that bigger, talller dirty blonde hair girl who has a pretty face and a spark in eyes, forgot her name. I had sessioned with the latter more than a year ago, was a waste of time. If I look up my old reports, I might remember her name. For a while she was part of the Cosmina / Evita gang.
Serena herself is a lousy service provider too. She gave me a CBJ, that I do remember. That was maybe a year ago, since then, I refused any more sessions with her, but she keeps asking me every time because she knows I went with her once. Unless I read here that she has truly changed for the better and service vastly improved, I will avoid her. A pity because she is pretty and very much my spec.
Selina has been around for a while. She indeed has the sagging tits. She is quite pleasant and talks to me on every trip. So far I haven't been with her, as her optics don't suit me well. I suspect she gives much better service than Serena. But if optics are not in the range, tough to get and stay excited in a session. There is a new brunette Selina who is a friend of the sagging tits blonde Selina.
Does Mina provide good service? I got to talk to her just once, and then never saw her again on Sunday. On Friday, she was apparently in the club but never even saw her. Constantly booked. She is hot. Either she also provides great service, or she is getting long and multiple bookings based just on looks.Better you make your own opinion about a girl.
Member #4581
11-22-18, 17:48
Leoni, De, about 26 yo. She is new now. But I am curious if she is the German girl "Leonie", who was a top-notch at Sharks a few years ago, mentioned by many ISGers at that time.
I had a session with her at this trip. OK session. I did want to give her another try, but Mandy came. I went with Mandy without hesitation. LOL.I don't think I have seen this new Leoni that you and I are thinking of, 3 years ago.
Also, I can't recall the Leoni of the the past. But I do remember having very fine sessions with her sister, if it is the same Leoni you mention. A blonde, not super slim but a fantastic service provider as I remember (Almost as good as Mandy for me. Can't remember her name but I think Siri said she went to GT). I vaguely remember that she (the sister) told me that Leoni got married and had a child. May be I am mixing up things in my mind.
I don't think I have seen this new Leoni that you and I are thinking of, 3 years ago.
Also, I can't recall the Leoni of the the past. But I do remember having very fine sessions with her sister, if it is the same Leoni you mention. A blonde, not super slim but a fantastic service provider as I remember (Almost as good as Mandy for me. Can't remember her name but I think Siri said she went to GT). I vaguely remember that she (the sister) told me that Leoni got married and had a child. May be I am mixing up things in my mind.German blond with pretty face and small tits, Leoni, met on September, is lovely and playful to chat, telling about making love, good point, but saying not french kissing, maybe German love, but not for a french lover, so even she was the most attractive for me because woman type, but I didn't want to feel frustrated, so I turned around many many times, good for legs and heart, and finished for 1 h with enthusiastic Svenja who dreamed about Globe, but each girl own level. I don't remember another German Leoni before at Sharks, I remember Mandy tried GT when she was not so busy at Sharks.
Did you find same level for love in bed than Bulgarian princess Aylice? She was as great as small, and quite sporty. Really pity she became silicon and then blocked my mind even had a really high level for 2 hours, last room and despite silicon, she was even more woman in bed on end of January 2016, but at this time, beauties at Sharks: Megan, Karin, Katalina even only once at Sharks. Katalina, Alice at Sharks, would have been my only girl at Sharks and then she would not need to be jealous like at Globe.
Katalina now at Globe worked at Sharks on 2013 and told me, compare to April 2016 when I discovered her, before following her at Globe, then advised Megan about. 30/40 girls on 2013 , about 50 on week ends on 2014 , when I discovered on February, tried for first Roxana before silicon, Dina, Cosmina who was brunette, Andrea. Bu, but when I found Isabella who was with Laura now mum at Oase, then previous couldn't compete.
When most of Germans don't give much business to girls, same for turkish who prefer bottles than girls at night, 150 girls could not eat without tourists and they usually pay more expensive, overcharged, or tipping.
When I read about Svenja who is lovely, but when she spoke about Globe, we with a Swiss guy told her she is not on level.
I would be happy to find elegant beauty like Andrea. Du who claimed after to be Ukrainian when she worked between Sharks and Oase, would be motivated for such beauty, but didn't see any on my last visits.Sharks was perfect in those days. No complaints. Line up is not even close now to that level. There are many girls now, but quality is lower. Harmony and golden time were perfect in last visits. Anyway, can't keep addressing the impertinent elements. Ignorance is bliss.
Member #4581
11-23-18, 01:36
German blond with pretty face and small tits, Leoni, met on September, is lovely and playful to chat, telling about making love, good point, but saying not french kissing, maybe German love, but not for a french lover, so even she was the most attractive for me because woman type, but I didn't want to feel frustrated, so I turned around many many times, good for legs and heart, and finished for 1 h with enthusiastic Svenja who dreamed about Globe, but each girl own level. I don't remember another German Leoni before at Sharks, I remember Mandy tried GT when she was not so busy at Sharks.
Did you find same level for love in bed than Bulgarian princess Aylice? She was as great as small, and quite sporty. Really pity she became silicon and then blocked my mind even had a really high level for 2 hours, last room and despite silicon, she was even more woman in bed on end of January 2016, but at this time, beauties at Sharks: Megan, Karin, Katalina even only once at Sharks. Katalina, Alice at Sharks, would have been my only girl at Sharks and then she would not need to be jealous like at Globe.I did not session with the new Leoni or the prior one, Siri. The new Leoni is good but not quite my sepc. I doubt that I will ever session with her. However, she is pretty enough and is a nice gal, I think.
I remembered the sister of prior Leoni was Lis. I think it was you who said she had moved to GT. Lis was a fabulous girl, in my view.
As for Aylice, I certainly miss her; she retired way too early in my view. I spoke to Manuela last week and she was not sure where Aylice is, but thinks perhaps Aylice moved back to Bulgaria and got married. But she was just speculating, I think.
I did not session with the new Leoni or the prior one, Siri. The new Leoni is good but not quite my sepc. I doubt that I will ever session with her. However, she is pretty enough and is a nice gal, I think.
I remembered the sister of prior Leoni was Lis. I think it was you who said she had moved to GT. Lis was a fabulous girl, in my view.
As for Aylice, I certainly miss her; she retired way too early in my view. I spoke to Manuela last week and she was not sure where Aylice is, but thinks perhaps Aylice moved back to Bulgaria and got married. But she was just speculating, I think.If you mean German blond Liz from Berlin, my GT, Summer 2013 girl, yes she returned to GT, she was friend with Aylin. At, and I m afraid she gave her a very bad idea for tits. Never repeated after July 2013, but she never forgot, always welcoming and smiling, never forgetting about my passions.
On 2015, there was German blond Lisa who worked before at Bumsalp with splendid Anna. Pol I got at World for 11th birthday, when I discovered her, I went with Anna everyday, beauty and great sex, she was full services. Lisa got more tattoos on leg while she was working at Sharks. Really lovely, I asked her so many times about where was Anna? She saw us at World.
I wish the best to Aylice who was what was Sharks quality, high level girl even not impressive look but I loved her smile and how she looked at me, no upselling.
Just to update. I was at Shark's last week and got to spend quality time with Brenda. Funny girl.
A big thanks to the guys who were able to provide intel on Brenda's whereabouts.
Made my day.
Howie.
.................I remembered the sister of prior Leoni was Lis. I think it was you who said she had moved to GT. Lis was a fabulous girl, in my view...............In July, 2016 I sessioned a Liz (De). She said she was from Frankfurt and worked in a gym, she was very good. Never saw her again.
In July, 2016 I sessioned a Liz (De). She said she was from Frankfurt and worked in a gym, she was very good. Never saw her again.And for sure she didn't work in a gym in Frankfurt. But anywhere else in any kind of job.
Heading to Sharks for the first time in a couple of weeks and just wondered if there was a cash point there or one that was near by? Will be exchanging some cash before I travel, however will prob want to get some while out there. Thanks.
Heading to Sharks for the first time in a couple of weeks and just wondered if there was a cash point there or one that was near by? Will be exchanging some cash before I travel, however will prob want to get some while out there. Thanks.Cash machine on the right inside club.
My German blond, blue eyes, shy smile, Liz is from Berlin and worked until 2013 at Artemis. A bit more than 30 yo now. Super GFE even out of the room, looking at me with her blue eyes.
Heading to Sharks for the first time in a couple of weeks and just wondered if there was a cash point there or one that was near by? Will be exchanging some cash before I travel, however will prob want to get some while out there. Thanks.There is an ATM inside the club.
ExpatLover
11-24-18, 04:40
Heading to Sharks for the first time in a couple of weeks and just wondered if there was a cash point there or one that was near by? Will be exchanging some cash before I travel, however will prob want to get some while out there. Thanks.There is a ATM in the lobby.
Heading to Sharks .. if there was a cash point there or one that was near by? Will be exchanging some cash ....You're allowed to bring EURO 10,000 in coming from outside the European Union. I don't know the fees you're charged and the forex rate to be considered using the Sharks ATM or any other in Germany. I suggest to draw 500 Euro to cover entrance fee, taxi from / to Darmstadt HBF, train ticket Frankfurt-Darmstadt. Remaining EUR 400 for four sessions one hour each (without gaurantee for DTK …..).
There is an ATM inside the club.ATM inside clubs very often come with outrageous transaction fees, at least for holders of European cards. The difference may be less for cards from outside the EU. If you can, locate a German bank near where you are (Commerzbank, Stadtsparkasse etc.) and use their ATM.
You're allowed to bring EURO 10,000 in coming from outside the European Union. I don't know the fees you're charged and the forex rate to be considered using the Sharks ATM or any other in Germany. I suggest to draw 500 Euro to cover entrance fee, taxi from / to Darmstadt HBF, train ticket Frankfurt-Darmstadt. Remaining EUR 400 for four sessions one hour each (without gaurantee for DTK ..).Thanks all for the info, much appreciated.
TankTank123
11-24-18, 09:49
There is an ATM inside the club.One of the days last week, the ATM was not properly functioning. A girl told me that she and another girl with a different customer could not get paid fully because their customers could not take cash out. On my way out, I also saw a customer cursing the ATM. I did not ask him, but I guess he had a problem too.
Anybody knows if Brenda is this WE there?
Just to update. I was at Shark's last week and got to spend quality time with Brenda. Funny girl.
A big thanks to the guys who were able to provide intel on Brenda's whereabouts.
Made my day.
Howie.Anybody knows if Brenda is in Sharks this WE?
For this reason I always have a 80 e reserve in my purse. And another 30 e reserve in my mobile phone. Totalling 110 e.
One of the days last week, the ATM was not properly functioning. A girl told me that she and another girl with a different customer could not get paid fully because their customers could not take cash out. On my way out, I also saw a customer cursing the ATM. I did not ask him, but I guess he had a problem too.
Member #4585
11-24-18, 11:53
One of the days last week, the ATM was not properly functioning. A girl told me that she and another girl with a different customer could not get paid fully because their customers could not take cash out. On my way out, I also saw a customer cursing the ATM. I did not ask him, but I guess he had a problem too.There was a time immemorial where the ATM in the Sharks lobby paid out cash to your card's cash limit in one hit. Then lately the lobby ATM at Sharks limited one to 150 bucks per extraction. Thus to get more cold hard cash you have to perform a further transaction. I would also curse the ATM because of this. Really annoying.
As far as my experience is there is no fees charged by the ATM. If you have a non euro card and you choose to take cash using the ATM's foreign exchange rate if you are not in the euro then the rate is not quite wholesale bank rates. If you are in the euro then there is no spread on foreign exchange conversion rates.
If you do not want to use the ATM in the Sharks lobby then you can wander across to the Rewe store around the corner to use the ATM there.
Yeah, a lot of guys deliberately stuff up knowing how to use the ATM to avoid paying the girls saying they cannot access their in surplus bank balance.
Member #4581
11-24-18, 17:30
The ATM inside the HBF is nice. I like too eat lunch around the train station before heading to Sharks (it is good to eat at least one decent meal outside as we are cooped up inside the club for the rest of the day and forced to eat that trash served by them), and on the way to Sharks I like to pick up 500 E or more every day. If I don't spend that much daily, I keep accumulating some extra cash. Over 4,5 days that builds up to a tidy sum. I also pick up a decent amount right after getting off the plane in the airport.
A few years ago, I used to use the Sharks ATM. But as Bitumen said, it has become less reliable and useless. Now, I just make sure to plan ahead.
One American dude I was talking to said that a couple of years ago, he ran out of cash and the ATM did not work and he almost got beat up by the club cops. I guess he learned his lesson now.
Still, DE remains such a cash dependent society. Strange, seeing how the rest of developed world is moving to electronic cash so quickly. Not just the west, it is even more advanced in China. DE remains some what of an anachronism.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-02-06/germany-is-still-obsessed-with-cash
In Switzerland, you can pay entry and girls with credit card. At Globe and brothers, they accept €.
At Wellcum. At or Marina. Slv, You can pay entry with credit card and get cash from desk with credit card.
Bad if ATM in Sharks, don t work. Not since long time at Sharks, but sometimes I let time running when the girl is great.
Bit about Friday and Sat at Sharks, medium busy. Girls bit upset that not much customers. Did not notice line ups of 200 girls though LOL. I would say 50-70.
Friday was bit tired to had couple of shots with a nice brunette and left home. Saturday was bit more fresh and made 5 shots with same dream-girl which was amazing. She is very discrete, nice time in the room and talking also amaaaazing blowjob and sex with her, no rush in things just relaxed and no worry about the time at all.
Hate seeing people washing their ass in the showers. Disgusting.
Still, DE remains such a cash dependent society. Strange, seeing how the rest of developed world is moving to electronic cash so quickly.Consider the industry. Electronic cash is more trackable. For various reasons the bears, ladies and clubs don't want accurate tracking of financials.
Nick The G
11-25-18, 14:37
Still, DE remains such a cash dependent society. Strange, seeing how the rest of developed world is moving to electronic cash so quickly. Not just the west, it is even more advanced in China. DE remains some what of an anachronism.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-02-06/germany-is-still-obsessed-with-cashStrange, that men who believe they are part of the so-called "rest of developed world" come to cash-dependent FKK-clubs in Germany to fuck girls from underdeveloped countries (like Romania, Moldavian Republic, Bulgaria) in Europe. There must be quite a fascination to get in contact with so-called underdeveloped areas, money wise and fuckability wise.
Nick The G
11-25-18, 14:41
Bit about Friday and Sat at Sharks, medium busy. Girls bit upset that not much customers. Did not notice line ups of 200 girls though LOL. I would say 50-70.Yesterday, Saturday, there were more than 130 women there, for sure! Again an incredible amount of women there in the night!
Hate seeing people washing their ass in the showers. Disgusting.Is there a cure for Assophobia? Maybe.Take off your glasses when showering or avoid using the showers. LOL.
Heading to Sharks for the first time in a couple of weeks and just wondered if there was a cash point there or one that was near by? Will be exchanging some cash before I travel, however will prob want to get some while out there. Thanks.As previously stated there is an ATM in the building at the entrance (expensive!) however I'm unsure whether the Reception would accept your own currency in exchange for Euro's?
I don't think Sharks provides this service although I know this can be done at Artemis but like the ATM it's at a poor rate.
With the recent discussions about Line Ups I'm somewhat apprehensive asking this question however as I'm visiting Sharks for the last time this year on Thursday (& Friday until 6 pm) can anyone tell me if the following ladies have been working the last few days??
Leoni (German), Xiomtara (German Colombian), Xenia, Sunny (Polish), Claudia, the popular Mandy, Jennifer (blonde).
Mona Lisa, Patricia (blonde) & Mia.
Despite going to Sharks several times recently I've yet to meet any of them and would be interested in "checking them out".
I don't have a good record of finding ladies too other than the German contingent who sit at the end of the bar near the buffet.
Many thanks if you can help.
Yesterday, Saturday, there were more than 130 women there, for sure! Again an incredible amount of women there in the night!
Is there a cure for Assophobia? Maybe.Take off your glasses when showering or avoid using the showers. LOL.Yeah, that's what I do buddy, meanwhile razors on the floor in showers does not feel fun as well.
Sometimes you feel there is a mix of normal people and some jerks with mental problems that treat these poor girls as animals.
TankTank123
11-25-18, 20:15
With the recent discussions about Line Ups I'm somewhat apprehensive asking this question however as I'm visiting Sharks for the last time this year on Thursday (& Friday until 6 pm) can anyone tell me if the following ladies have been working the last few days??
Leoni (German), Xiomtara (German Colombian), Xenia, Sunny (Polish), Claudia, the popular Mandy, Jennifer (blonde).
Mona Lisa, Patricia (blonde) & Mia.
Despite going to Sharks several times recently I've yet to meet any of them and would be interested in "checking them out".
I don't have a good record of finding ladies too other than the German contingent who sit at the end of the bar near the buffet.
Many thanks if you can help.Mandy and Mona Lisa were present and I believe they will still be around next week as they did not mention any impending travel plans. Mia was not present.
Nick The G
11-25-18, 22:37
Sometimes you feel there is a mix of normal people and some jerks with mental problems that treat these poor girls as animals.I am sure we all agree, it is always the others!
Still, DE remains such a cash dependent society. Strange, seeing how the rest of developed world is moving to electronic cash so quickly. Not just the west, it is even more advanced in China. DE remains some what of an anachronism.The girls do have a slot, but you can't pull through your American Express Card They won't accept it.
Cash is not trash! Golden China again aha ok, don't think they got FKK Clubs like here in Germany, so your comparison is some kind of an anachronism too. (can't hear anymore "good" stories about China. On second look it's always and still a sinkhole country).
BTW Was in Sharks Saturday 11/24, booked 2 girls. One german mid-twenty Maria, blonde, nice service with massage, talking too much. Real "Ruhrpott"-dialect. She came wednsday leaving today Sunday, going back to her family near Gladbach I guess. Sounds like doesn't come back anymore, who knows. She told me, that she is insisting to sit alone, not at the german table. Yet I realised pretty quick, she's a real german girl.
Second room with romanian Loretta (I guess. Black haired slim girl, a bit less than 1,70. Reminds me a bit of an actress, younger Vera Farmiga. Very good service, nice girl, good attitude.
ExpatLover
11-26-18, 03:34
The girls do have a slot, but you can't pull through your American Express Card They won't accept it.
Cash is not trash! Golden China again aha ok, don't think they got FKK Clubs like here in Germany, so your comparison is some kind of an anachronism too. (can't hear anymore "good" stories about China. On second look it's always and still a sinkhole country).
BTW Was in Sharks Saturday 11/24, booked 2 girls. One german mid-twenty Maria, blonde, nice service with massage, talking too much. Real "Ruhrpott"-dialect. She came wednsday leaving today Sunday, going back to her family near Gladbach I guess. Sounds like doesn't come back anymore, who knows. She told me, that she is insisting to sit alone, not at the german table. Yet I realised pretty quick, she's a real german girl.
Second room with romanian Loretta (I guess. Black haired slim girl, a bit less than 1,70. Reminds me a bit of an actress, younger Vera Farmiga. Very good service, nice girl, good attitude.I can tell you that the best sex with fresh girls is available in China far better than Thailand or Germany where most of the girls are over pro.
Member #4581
11-26-18, 05:32
Consider the industry. Electronic cash is more trackable. For various reasons the bears, ladies and clubs don't want accurate tracking of financials.Yes, in the clubs and in the paid sex industry I can perfectly understand. I too would not be rushing to use my corporate or even personal Amex anywhere near these places. I was thinking in general, DE is such a cash dependent nation. It is so different from even a relatively close neighbor such as Sweden. I think it is mostly down to historical and cultural reasons. I understand those issues, but still seems a bit strange.
In the coming week I have a time window and would like to come to Darmstadt. Question: Are Amalia and Elif back from their holidays?
Nick The G
11-26-18, 15:15
Second room with romanian Loretta (I guess. Black haired slim girl, a bit less than 1,70. Reminds me a bit of an actress, younger Vera Farmiga. Very good service, nice girl, good attitude.Yes, the name of this sweetie is Loretta, she is in her mid-twenties. BTW, she and Vera Ann Farmiga are born in the same month (different years of course).
YamaYama0519
11-26-18, 19:54
Yes, the name of this sweetie is Loretta, she is in her mid-twenties. BTW, she and Vera Ann Farmiga are born in the same month (different years of course).My session with Loretta.
3) Loretta: 1830-1930,100 E. Rom, 26 yo, slightly saggy B cup, long brunette, fairly pretty, slim, model, 165 cm, five months at Sharks, can kiss even for 30 min 50 E sessions. In a room caressing, 23 min DATY with her O, 2 min BJ, 3 min cowgirl, 2 min missionary, 3 min flat doggie, 13 min combination of miss and DATY, and my 15 min massage one her. May repeat.
Nick The G
11-26-18, 20:29
In the coming week I have a time window and would like to come to Darmstadt. Question: Are Amalia and Elif back from their holidays?They are back.
Thank you for the info. Probably on the 4th or 5th of December I fly in.
I hope that along with Elif and Amalia, the other line-up is also very cool.
I'm looking forward to the time at Sharks. Finally I can see the sight of.
Enjoy about 100 women. It is the garden for Eden for me.
Nick The G
11-27-18, 12:20
TEnjoy about 100 women. It is the garden for Eden for me.Some others call it the "devil's circus". Built vastly on illusions (money-based)! Be cautious and make sure to access the appropriate floor of that tantalizing glittering building.
If you catch any emotional / mental infections due to attachment, be sure to leave them completely at the reception when you leave the club. That is the secret of the art of "framing", respect the door and threshold you are passing!
Yes, in the clubs and in the paid sex industry I can perfectly understand. I too would not be rushing to use my corporate or even personal Amex anywhere near these places. I was thinking in general, DE is such a cash dependent nation. It is so different from even a relatively close neighbor such as Sweden. I think it is mostly down to historical and cultural reasons. I understand those issues, but still seems a bit strange.I must be missing something somewhere. In Germany I use cash only at the clubs and KFC, which for some reason doesn't accept any of my alternative payment methods. Every now and then I use cash purposefully so I have change when I need to use the WC in a gas station. It may be different for others that aren't banking in the USA.
...............Hate seeing people washing their ass in the showers. Disgusting.Last August I saw a guy washing his junk in a face basin. Don't want to name a nationality as I'm not 100% certain. I exclaimed aloud in disgust and he looked at me as if he wanted to fight. Meant to report him to management but got sidetracked on leaving the washing room area. Didn't see him again.
I must be missing something somewhere. In Germany I use cash only at the clubs and KFC, which for some reason doesn't accept any of my alternative payment methods. Every now and then I use cash purposefully so I have change when I need to use the WC in a gas station. It may be different for others that aren't banking in the USA.The last line was supposed to read "are banking in the USA" or "you aren't banking in Europe". I bank, primarily, in Europe and live 90% cashless.
Hate seeing people washing their ass in the showers. Disgusting.I'm confused. Where is it appropriate to wash your ass?
I must be missing something somewhere. In Germany I use cash only at the clubs and KFC, which for some reason doesn't accept any of my alternative payment methods. Every now and then I use cash purposefully so I have change when I need to use the WC in a gas station. It may be different for others that aren't banking in the USA.Yeah, things have changed a bit over the past 4 years in Germany but a lot of the stereotypes seem to persist regarding German cash culture. While there are probably still more people using cash in comparisons to other nearby nations, I can't remember the last time I've had an issue using my card at a restaurant, grocery store, or other shop near a major city. The last time I had any issue was at a nightclub 2 years ago. The bartender said they couldn't open a tab. Having run out of cash, I had no problems paying for my drinks one 6 euro purchase at a time.
Kosher Kowboy
11-27-18, 22:03
Last August I saw a guy washing his junk in a face basin. Don't want to name a nationality as I'm not 100% certain..I saw worse in that back bathroom in the men's locker room in the basin a guy was shaving his balls. I do not want to name nationalities as German is spoken in a few countries in that neck of the world but the man said Hello, and how are you in German. Considering it was the same day someone took a massive dump in the men's shower stinking up the bathroom I made nothing of it. Guess if shaving your nuts better in the sink than in the showers having the clippings floating for all to stand in.
Not sure management would care, seems more classless than breaking any rules. Either way.
I think the guy should have shaved at home and in your case left the basin for you to clean your hands and vashed his junk in the provided showers.
I saw worse in that back bathroom in the men's locker room in the basin a guy was shaving his balls. Guess if shaving your nuts its better in the sink than in the showers having the clippings floating for all to stand in. I think the guy should have shaved at home and in your case left the basin for you to clean your hands and washed his junk in the provided showers.At least Mr. Ho has the decency to shave his "anal" at home well before he arrives at the club. You see? He's not such a bad guy after all! LOLOLOL! Funniest thing I saw years ago was at Palace when I was new to the FKK scene.
I saw this guy in the shower bent over like he was in a rugby scrum washing his hairy arsehole out hahaha! Was too funny! WTH is wrong with some people doing such goofy-looking things in public?
I saw worse in that back bathroom in the men's locker room in the basin a guy was shaving his balls. I do not want to name nationalities as German is spoken in a few countries in that neck of the world but the man said Hello, and how are you in German. Considering it was the same day someone took a massive dump in the men's shower stinking up the bathroom I made nothing of it. Guess if shaving your nuts better in the sink than in the showers having the clippings floating for all to stand in.
Not sure management would care, seems more classless than breaking any rules. Either way.
I think the guy should have shaved at home and in your case left the basin for you to clean your hands and vashed his junk in the provided showers.It was disgusting! Management should take care of that.
Consider the industry. Electronic cash is more trackable. For various reasons the bears, ladies and clubs don't want accurate tracking of financials.Can pay with credit card at Oase, even for girls. Was possible before at YY NL. Possible in Switzerland, Austria and at Marina Slovenia.
IMHO much more disgusting is pooping guys making in addition rspective sounds in the toilet cabin and when finished not washing their hands but going straight forward into direction of the buffet in the restaurant. And that's not something unusual. The behaviour of most clients is very bad in that sense. I wonder why working girls regularly are blamed not to wash themselves enough when the time gap between payment and later return from the locker room is rather short. By the way, there is no need to explain it with ethnical arguments or nationality of the customers.
IMHO much more disgusting is pooping guys making in addition rspective sounds in the toilet cabin and when finished not washing their hands but going straight forward into direction of the buffet in the restaurant. And that's not something unusual. The behaviour of most clients is very bad in that sense. I wonder why working girls regularly are blamed not to wash themselves enough when the time gap between payment and later return from the locker room is rather short. By the way, there is no need to explain it with ethnical arguments or nationality of the customers.I was so much looking forward to visiting Sharks again tomorrow for my last visit of the year but reading these recent pieces I'm somewhat put off!
Luckily I've never seen such disgusting behaviour although to be honest I don't really take much notice of men when showering.
I've always thought Artemis is cleaner than Sharks.
Nick The G
11-28-18, 11:00
It was disgusting! Management should take care of that.Management takes care. They put up signs everywhere that we have to use condoms for sexual intercourse. I am sure you yourself support these german laws and efforts by the management whole-heartedly! You are the prototype of a well-informed and well-behaved sex tourist.
Last August I saw a guy washing his junk in a face basin. ..... I exclaimed aloud in disgust and he looked at me as if he wanted to fight. Meant to report him to management but got sidetracked on leaving the washing room area. Didn't see him again.
I saw worse in that back bathroom in the men's locker room in the basin a guy was shaving his balls. ..... Guess if shaving your nuts better in the sink than in the showers having the clippings floating for all to stand in.
I think the guy should have shaved at home and in your case left the basin for you to clean your hands and vashed his junk in the provided showers.To me it seems many of you forget you are in a dirty german brothel, that by way of clever marketing names itself a "FKK-Club". I am sure some of you noticed that the place you long to go to is a brothel and not a clinic! Why do people think it is so dark in brothels / FKK-clubs? Because the dimmed and the reddish light helps to keep the place clean and sterile?
These basins are made for washing, mostly using the hands for washing something: so it is about washing and cleaning, no surprise!
Maybe you forgot you are in Germany! A culture shock? In Germany we use these basins to wash all accessible body parts, e. G. Arms, arm pit-holes, hands, legs, face, some people might even wash their nose or feet! Or dirty clothes. As long as someone has the intention to wash something with his hands and doesn't [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) or shit in these basins, the basins are used in a proper way.
Can I ask sincerely: what is the cognitive problem with washing asses or genitals? Is anybody looking for a device to wash brains and dirty thoughts too? For himself or to suggest the use of this device to others?
These basins are made for washing, mostly using the hands for washing something: so it is about washing and cleaning, no surprise!
Maybe you forgot you are in Germany! A culture shock? In Germany we use these basins to wash all accessible body parts, e. G. Arms, arm pit-holes, hands, legs, face, some people might even wash their nose or feet! Or dirty clothes.First, thank you to Germany for allowing me to be on tour for such a long stay. I have no issue with men washing any parts of their bodies, but I find it much easier to wash everything except hands and arms in the shower. The showers are free, and I use up my €30 worth of water and towels on each visit. The one thing I will say, usually if my dick needs washed I want to clean the rest of my body too.
A funny story about washing. Back in the day I was in Asian at a brothel. My buddy and I each selected a lady and went off to our designated areas for enjoyment. The lady steps up to me with a small plastic bowl full of look warm water and starts washing my junk. Suddenly from across the way my buddy shouts out, "fucking hell, cold water".
This said, the I'm so happy we have the option to enjoy such top quality establishments as FKK Sauna Clubs. Most even have warm water for washing.
Management takes care. They put up signs everywhere that we have to use condoms for sexual intercourse. I am sure you yourself support these german laws and efforts by the management whole-heartedly! You are the prototype of a well-informed and well-behaved sex tourist.
To me it seems many of you forget you are in a dirty german brothel, that by way of clever marketing names itself a "FKK-Club". I am sure some of you noticed that the place you long to go to is a brothel and not a clinic! Why do people think it is so dark in brothels / FKK-clubs? Because the dimmed and the reddish light helps to keep the place clean and sterile?
These basins are made for washing, mostly using the hands for washing something: so it is about washing and cleaning, no surprise!.For some reason, when envisioning the person giving this rant, I have a picture of the balding German Onion Groin guy.
We all know despite speaking German, the inside of these clubs are hardly German in culture. Considering the Girls, staff, sex tourist customers, and throw in the Turkish Germans. My guess is that at any given time, ethnic Germans make up less than 25% of a club, probably less than 10% after 10 pm.
TankTank123
11-28-18, 14:02
Last August I saw a guy washing his junk in a face basin. I exclaimed aloud in disgust and he looked at me as if he wanted to fight. Meant to report him to management but got sidetracked on leaving the washing room area. Didn't see him again.Earlier this year, in a different club, I saw a guy coming out from the locker room after paying his girl head immediately to the toilet to wash his junk in the face basin. He stared at me in disgust for looking at his private part, left the toilet, went to the bar, embraced another girl and proceeded to a room. Turn around time of just 1 minute!!
Last August I saw a guy washing his junk in a face basin. Don't want to name a nationality as I'm not 100% certain. I exclaimed aloud in disgust and he looked at me as if he wanted to fight. Meant to report him to management but got sidetracked on leaving the washing room area. Didn't see him again.Many guys wash dick where we wash hands, so I start to wash the place before my hands.
I am also always surprised to see some guys taking shower with panty, so not washing their dick. Difficult job for girls, I understand why they return to some of us as soon they see us.
Kosher Kowboy
11-28-18, 15:26
Earlier this year, in a different club, I saw a guy coming out from the locker room after paying his girl head immediately to the toilet to wash his junk in the face basin. He stared at me in disgust for looking at his private part, left the toilet, went to the bar, embraced another girl and proceeded to a room. Turn around time of just 1 minute!!TT, I got that guy beat. In the summertime Dietz gets so hot to avoid sweating I will use Gold Bond Powder so I don't sweat after I shower after fucking and a few times before fucking in lieu of a complete shower and dry off I myself used the sink in the bathroom to vash any powder residue off (most absorbed by the skin anyway) prior to going to a room. Much faster and less work. I figure the rest of me is clean, why waste water and time. The showers were occupied, why not use the basin. I don't want to keep my Gypsy waiting and I highly doubt she would care I used the basin especially since one time it was a well known well loved and ' overfucked' Gypsy who will on her couch pluck the hairs out of her pussy and flick them in the air (she doesn't shave daily).
To me it seems many of you forget you are in a dirty german brothel, that by way of clever marketing names itself a "FKK-Club". I am sure some of you noticed that the place you long to go to is a brothel and not a clinic! Why do people think it is so dark in brothels / FKK-clubs? Because the dimmed and the reddish light helps to keep the place clean and sterile?
These basins are made for washing, mostly using the hands for washing something: so it is about washing and cleaning, no surprise!
Can I ask sincerely: what is the cognitive problem with washing asses or genitals? Is anybody looking for a device to wash brains and dirty thoughts too? For himself or to suggest the use of this device to others?I don't have an issue with guys cleaning their junk (front or back) nor guys using the sink, I think we just notice these things as ' out of the ordinary' compared to home. Than again I am in a W-house not the Ritz Carlton health club. This is why I do not think management would boot a guy for washing his junk in the men's room basin. I have seen guys both at health clubs here and brothels / FKKs there using the shower to empty their bladders as well, probably done it once maybe twice or more myself especially when your stall is right above the drain, why make an extra trip to the toilet just let it out although there is a sign not to do such at Dietzenbach written in German so I am probably the only guilty American (actually I highly doubt I am).
I agree on the cleverness of the marketing. It is brilliant and it does indeed fool many. These clubs are W-houses, brothels and everything but high end classy establishments. The food and amenities and fancy lockers and finish outs in the parlors and changing lights in saunas and steam rooms etc do not change the fact nor fool me as the place is full of women who fuck 10-20 men a day.
If one looks at the Mainhatten and Sharks websites for example the word ' Bordello' pops up. Sadly I think many men are fooled in to thinking the girls are better at ' A Sharks' than ' A Dietz' simply because of the establishment itself fooling them when if you ripped out all the lights and fancy shit at an FKK and compared it to a truly bare bones RTC what is left in both places? A bunch of women in the buff who take our money and let us shove our cocks in their mouths and pussies.
I personally didn't find the guy I saw shaving his nuts in the sink to be appalling, gross or worthy of complaining about. I'd personally shave at home but if anything I find it comical, almost entertainment. In a way it enhances the experience. Soaking in the culture of the home team, or in some cases contributing to it :D
BigBuddy69
11-28-18, 17:38
Well, I wash my dick in the basin everytime after I [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). I'm not going to take a shower after each visit to the bathroom and I don't think that the girls like [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109)-flavored BJs.
I'm confused. Where is it appropriate to wash your ass?Well, sorry if the topic I started about hygiene takes too much reaction. But maybe it is psychological. But personally seeing a guy almost fingering his asshole than pushing on the shower button. Somehow pushes me off to use that showers and use the same buttons to push. And than seeing razors on the floors does not create a good impression.
My personal point of view and if you want to shave something, do it somewhere else at home for example. Why would you make the drains stuck in the FKK club shower? Worst case if you showered what the f* you leave the razors on the floor. Feels disrespect to others.
I really think the hygiene has to be a priority in such places and it needs some additional work on this topic. Even comparing to other places in Spain for example where girl comes with a sealed blanket and opens in front of you or takes fluor to wash her mouth after she did a BBJ to you. Just some things to follow that would increase the rating of such places and not transform it into a place of all kind of snakes.
Cheers!
The G. Is about us, not the others!
I am personally mortified by the apparent acceptance of totally unhygienic practices in shared washing areas but must remind myself of the disadvantages associated with locales devoted to indulgence in our baser instincts. Our enjoyment of the fairer sex must be disassociated from any thoughts of who may have been with her immediately before us and similarly when we brush our teeth in those "face" basins we must think only of the next object of our affections.
I really think the hygiene has to be a priority in such places and it needs some additional work on this topic.If the guy is cleaning himself is that not practicing good hygiene? I don't shit in the showers or shave my ass or balls there either. I try to minimize my impact on the cleaning crew.
Speaking of fecal matter on things we touch, I read an article in the past that GSM are one of the most contaminated devices we come in contact with on a daily basis. When is the last time you freaked out when somebody used their phone at a dinner table. Even more recently I saw the news article linked below just today.
https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/mcdonalds-touchscreens-test-positive-for-traces-of-feces-deadly-bacteria
Thank you, I'll be ordering at the counter.
Well, sorry if the topic I started about hygiene takes too much reaction. But maybe it is psychological. But personally seeing a guy almost fingering his asshole than pushing on the shower button. Somehow pushes me off to use that showers and use the same buttons to push. And than seeing razors on the floors does not create a good impression.
My personal point of view and if you want to shave something, do it somewhere else at home for example. Why would you make the drains stuck in the FKK club shower? Worst case if you showered what the f* you leave the razors on the floor. Feels disrespect to others.I'm with you with the pube shaving. I personally do it over the toilet if I have to quickly groom in the clubs.
I'm thinking you have to get over the ass washing though. After all, FKK is the German term for "free body culture," a certain degree of accepting the human form, asshole included is to be expected.
Kosher Kowboy
11-29-18, 02:44
Even comparing to other places in Spain for example where girl comes with a sealed blanket and opens in front of youI forgot about those, the seedier brothels in Madrid I went to had those. In a drawer next to the bed they had them stacked up or the girl after handing the madam the money would return with a condom and sheet. Thin plastic packet with light blue borders. They are like half cotton and half paper towel material. The Spaniards must go thru tens of thousands of those things a day. In some of those brothels the girl gives the guy a Sharks style vashing in the basin too but a lot of them had showers in each room.
TT, I got that guy beat. In the summertime Dietz gets so hot to avoid sweating I will use Gold Bond Powder so I don't sweat after I shower after fucking and a few times before fucking in lieu of a complete shower and dry off I myself used the sink in the bathroom to vash any powder residue off (most absorbed by the skin anyway) prior to going to a room. Much faster and less work. I figure the rest of me is clean, why waste water and time. The showers were occupied, why not use the basin. I don't want to keep my Gypsy waiting and I highly doubt she would care I used the basin especially since one time it was a well known well loved and ' overfucked' Gypsy who will on her couch pluck the hairs out of her pussy and flick them in the air (she doesn't shave daily).
I don't have an issue with guys cleaning their junk (front or back) nor guys using the sink, I think we just notice these things as ' out of the ordinary' compared to home. Than again I am in a W-house not the Ritz Carlton health club. This is why I do not think management would boot a guy for washing his junk in the men's room basin. I have seen guys both at health clubs here and brothels / FKKs there using the shower to empty their bladders as well, probably done it once maybe twice or more myself especially when your stall is right above the drain, why make an extra trip to the toilet just let it out although there is a sign not to do such at Dietzenbach written in German so I am probably the only guilty American (actually I highly doubt I am).What do you expect in a brothel where women go through 10-20 men a day? Want a higher class of women? Look for a higher end escort service. The woman will be well dressed and groomed like Siri likes. No waiting since she will arrive at the scheduled time. You pay for what you get.
Kosher Kowboy
11-30-18, 18:06
Well, I wash my dick in the basin everytime after I . I'm not going to take a shower after each visit to the bathroom and I don't think that the girls like -flavored BJs.Reading between the codewords if I did correctly I too address this issue post emptying myself in the toilets. Just adding to the basin disgust for some and non FKK related at all the Redskins games back in the old RFK Stadium every Sunday growing up there were not enough toilets for all the men in between quarters and halftime so men started using the sinks for such codewords.
We finally figured out the culprits who started this were out of town guests from New York and Philadelphia who invaded the stadium for the Giants and Eagles games. Finally ' if you can't beat them join them' and the Washingtonians (and suburban Virginia / Maryland guys) copied the efficient neighbors to our north.
However in FKKs I usually upon completion of such Codewords will grab some toilet paper, get it wet in the basin and do a final rinse of my members tip ( not in the basin and toss the toilet paper in the garbage can) as to have it somewhat vashed for the next lady. I do not want to shower each time either unless it was Codeword#2 which goes without saying a shower always follows.
BigBuddy69
11-30-18, 19:31
The problem is that I'm a very productive Codeword#2-er so I can't take a shower after each Codeword#2 unless if I want to peel all my skin away. I have no problem to wash my junk in the basin after Codeword#1 : the water is running, I use soap, there is nothing dirty. The dirty thing is when some guys leave the toilet after doing one of the two codeword# (or maybe both) without even washing their hands!
What do you expect in a brothel where women go through 10-20 men a day? Want a higher class of women? Look for a higher end escort service.You can't compare neither apples with peaches nor FKK clubs with escort service. Each market place is worth its existence matching preferences and moods of the respective customers.
Nonetheless rhe behaviour of some male customers is very special independent of ethnical origin. By the way, this week I joined a conference in Frankfurt. A lot of people sneezing, shaking hands over three days and enjoying self-service at the buffet. Wearing suits and ties but also forgetting to use the basin after the use of the toilet. Thus it's not only a club related problem.
ExpatLover
12-01-18, 08:49
You can't compare neither apples with peaches nor FKK clubs with escort service. Each market place is worth its existence matching preferences and moods of the respective customers.
Nonetheless rhe behaviour of some male customers is very special independent of ethnical origin. By the way, this week I joined a conference in Frankfurt. A lot of people sneezing, shaking hands over three days and enjoying self-service at the buffet. Wearing suits and ties but also forgetting to use the basin after the use of the toilet. Thus it's not only a club related problem.Ethnicity, education, religion are the main driver for human behavior, just have a look how the women are considered in India or in many Muslim countries. Never forget that in Europe 90% of the people in jail have a Muslim background when they are only 5% of the population.
If anyone is thinking of visiting Sharks for the first time I would recommend you take the plunge now as it's a perfect time.
I went on Thursday & Friday for the last time this year & was surprised how few customers there were, especially on Thursday. During the daytime / evening the ladies were outnumbering the guys considerably & battling each other for customers.
Even Friday was not that busy with customers but as with Thursday there were loads of ladies, too many to count!
It was a memorable visit for me as I met Mandy for the first time, (just my type, delightful), reunited with Ena, Maria & Jennifer (who reminded me of every detail from our last encounter) Also had first time sessions with Lucy (brilliant) & a short haired, slim Romanian which was OK but nothing special. I even had an interesting chat with one of the locals who sits on the sofas near the entrance.
I have no plans to return until after the winter (although my plans often change! But I would seriously recommend first timers to visit now.
Note: It was surprising how many girls told me they are working over the Christmas period.
Kosher Kowboy
12-01-18, 15:11
A lot of people sneezing, shaking hands over three days and enjoying self-service at the buffet. Wearing suits and ties but also forgetting to use the basin after the use of the toilet. Thus it's not only a club related problem.We have a buffet chain here where none of the guests wear suits and ties (can't afford) , average weight of the guests is probably 250+ pounds for males and females pushing 175-200 pounds. It is called ' The Golden Corral'.
These are the poster folks for America's White Trash! None of them vash after using the restrooms just walk out, they sneeze and cough and go right back to the buffet, often use the same plate and don't get a clean one each visit, stick their hands in the servings and do not use the utensils. They are also too cheap to even leave a $1 tip ( per person) for the guys and girls who clean up and manicure their tables and refill their drinks ( these are often very hard working Mexicans trying to support their families and do have class) than these cheap people who can't leave a buck go home and vote for a guy who wants to close the borders to the very people who serve them so well.
Even at higher end buffets in Las Vegas I have seen poor hygienic behavior.
I actually think the cleanliest buffet attendees who actually clean up after themselves and follow buffet etiquettes are the girls in the FKK Clubs. They seem to eat gracefully like ladies, not pile their plates high (except for one in Darmstadt), clean up their dirty dishes, use utensils and so on. My only complaint is they do not sit like Anna and the other Gypsies while they eat with their legs spread wide and unfortunately they sit like ladies with their legs folded over each other as not to expose their privates...Very graceful and well behaved ladies.
Even if they do put ketchup on their pizzas. Weird. They are at least clean about it and it isn't that bad, I have tried it myself.
When I arrive at the FKK I take a full shower. After my first session of the day I take another full shower. After following sessions, if I'm not sweaty (i.e. its not a hot day) I enter the shower area and wash only my mid section front and back. I never use the face basin to wash my Johnson. I am somewhat grateful to those mongers who admit doing that to alert me as to the number of meanies who are like minded. I will certainly not be using those face basins again; male genitalia other than my own are unsavory to me.
Kosher Kowboy
12-02-18, 01:54
I am somewhat grateful to those mongers who admit doing that to alert me as to the number of meanies who are like minded. I will certainly not be using those face basins again; male genitalia other than my own are unsavory to me.Today I have used the restrooms for Codeword#1 at a BBQ joint, a grocery store, Wal-Mart and Macy's (the cleanest).
Thanks to this thread after each Codeword#1 was finished I could not look at the basins and / or vash w / o thinking of some guy having previously used the basin to shave his balls, vash his junk or vash off the tip of his pecker after going Codeword#1.
I am starting to think maybe this comes down to German efficiency and time management. While Codeword#1'ing at Macy's I thought to myself what a friend once said ' if you don't touch anything why vash?'
So if in Sharks and all a guy does is open his towel up and proceed to Codeword#1 and gets a good shake at the end than what is the point of using the basin at all? Could this be what is in the ' Nein Vashers' minds? Perhaps this is why one sees many locals just Codeword#1 and leave?? Only thing one might touch is the handle to flush, that being said I am not sure if the toilets / stalls at Sharks or other FKKs have sensors or not when the guilty Codeword#1/ Codeword#2 club attendee gets up and vanishes to flush automatically.
I vashed anyway
ExpatLover
12-02-18, 09:16
If anyone is thinking of visiting Sharks for the first time I would recommend you take the plunge now as it's a perfect time.
I went on Thursday & Friday for the last time this year & was surprised how few customers there were, especially on Thursday. During the daytime / evening the ladies were outnumbering the guys considerably & battling each other for customers.
Even Friday was not that busy with customers but as with Thursday there were loads of ladies, too many to count!
It was a memorable visit for me as I met Mandy for the first time, (just my type, delightful), reunited with Ena, Maria & Jennifer (who reminded me of every detail from our last encounter) Also had first time sessions with Lucy (brilliant) & a short haired, slim Romanian which was OK but nothing special. I even had an interesting chat with one of the locals who sits on the sofas near the entrance.
I have no plans to return until after the winter (although my plans often change! But I would seriously recommend first timers to visit now.
Note: It was surprising how many girls told me they are working over the Christmas period.To keep safe never believe what a girl is telling you, like every year a lot of girls will leave around the 15 to 23 December to return to Romania and coming back after the 15 of Jan.
First time in Germany, will be in Frankfurt for 4 days. Can't wait to try shark and some other fkks. Wish me luck!
BTW do you guys bring your own condoms? I prefer the ultra thins so I'm thinking to bring a couple with me.
BTW do you guys bring your own condoms? I prefer the ultra thins so I'm thinking to bring a couple with me.I always bring my own condoms (micro-thins) for the kind of fit, performance, and durability that I like. Most of the girls are fine with that, but occasionally you will find a paranoid one who is afraid the guy might have tampered with his condoms, like poke holes in them in an attempt to get his sperm inside of the girls. Happens I guess, but I have an excellent track record of the girls going along with the condoms I want to use. And I would never do anything as despicable as try to impregnate a prostitute by tampering with my private stash of condoms. But apparently, some guys here and there would. I was with one girl who would not let me use mine because she said she caught a guy one time who had poked holes in a condom he wanted to use. Asshole has now ruined it for everybody else who now chooses to go with that girl who would like to use their own brand of condom.
I always bring my own condoms (micro-thins) for the kind of fit, performance, and durability that I like. Most of the girls are fine with that, but occasionally you will find a paranoid one who is afraid the guy might have tampered with his condoms, like poke holes in them in an attempt to get his sperm inside of the girls. Happens I guess, but I have an excellent track record of the girls going along with the condoms I want to use. And I would never do anything as despicable as try to impregnate a prostitute by tampering with my private stash of condoms. But apparently, some guys here and there would. I was with one girl who would not let me use mine because she said she caught a guy one time who had poked holes in a condom he wanted to use. Asshole has now ruined it for everybody else who now chooses to go with that girl who would like to use their own brand of condom.I always give the girl the condom in the packet for her to inspect if she wishes and open it. That should be standard practice. The loathsome creep who poked holes in the condom should have been reported to management and banned or worse. That is absolutely intolerable.
I always bring my own condoms (micro-thins) for the kind of fit, performance, and durability that I like. Most of the girls are fine with that, but occasionally you will find a paranoid one who is afraid the guy might have tampered with his condoms, like poke holes in them in an attempt to get his sperm inside of the girls. Happens I guess, but I have an excellent track record of the girls going along with the condoms I want to use. And I would never do anything as despicable as try to impregnate a prostitute by tampering with my private stash of condoms. But apparently, some guys here and there would. I was with one girl who would not let me use mine because she said she caught a guy one time who had poked holes in a condom he wanted to use. Asshole has now ruined it for everybody else who now chooses to go with that girl who would like to use their own brand of condom.Thanks for the info. Just left shark, had 2 sessions and neither seemed to have an issue with it.
Since I'm currently suffering from a bit of jet lag, figured I would write down my first ever experience at an FKK and in fact my first time in Germany.
I flew from Asia to another European country, landing at the ungodly hour of 6 am. Then had a 3 hour wait until my train to Frankfurt left the station. Luckily I had chosen a hotel near the HBF so it was a quick walk once I got off the train in Frankfurt. Grabbed a quick burger and a shower and I was ready. I was half tempted to just checked out the RLD houses and take it easy for my first day but FKKs were literally the only reason I came to Germany so can't pussy out now! Used the DB app to buy my tickets and off I went at 15.25. I took the train from Frankfurt HBF to Darmstadt Nord. 8. 50 eur, super convenient and can just walk to Shark from the station (15 minutes). I reached the club around 4 pm.
Walked in, the receptionist was chatting to some regular I assume, so I just handed over my 65 eur and got a bracelet, robe, towel and shoes in return. A quick communal shower and I was ready to go. Into the club and I walked around the bar area trying to familiarize myself with the place. At this time there were way more guys than I expected, I'd guess the girl / guy ratio was 1. 2-1. 5/1. Not terribly great to be honest. In terms of clientele I was a bit surprised. I kind of expected to be one of the only Asians in the club but throughout the night I saw at least 7-8 East Asians (China, Hong Kong and Japan I'm guessing) and a few South Asians (Indians / Pakastanis / etc) as well. Anyway, I found an open seat at the bar next to a group of Chinese people speaking Mandarin. And here comes the girls.
What everyone says is true, these FKK girls are definitely approaching me if I give them the slightest bit of eye contact (sometimes even I give them no eye contact). A few of them have said this is because Asian guys tend to be more shy and not approach the girls? In any case, I was not one of these types, having had many, many sessions in Thailand, Philippines, Jakarta, Hong Kong, Macau, etc. Nonetheless I still made polite conversations with them and let them know at the earliest opportunity that I wasn't interested (in them). Most of them took it reasonably ok. Some of them were a bit aggressive though, almost felt liked getting "attacked" by ladyboys in Bangkok haha.
In terms of girl quality at 4 pm on a Sunday: based on my preferences (young, slim, pretty face) it was just okay. There were all types of girls around: blonde, brunette, natural, augmented, tattoo'd, etc. Saw an African looking one or two as well. Most looked mid-20's to early-30's in my eyes. Didn't see any 10/10's.
After sitting at the bar for maybe 5 minutes at this stage (and declining 3-4 girls already) I saw a super slim, darked hair girl walking towards me. I maintain eye contact for literally a second and she came over. Zeynab was her name? Said she was half Turkish / half Romanian. Frankly her face wasn't exactly my type (a bit old looking and not really my type) but her body was petite and very tight with pinkish colored nipples so for the first time I actively engaged in conversation. After a few minutes we moved to a couch for a bit more conversation and some light fondling. A negative point, her skin didn't feel very smooth despite her saying she was still 22. Probably sign of a hard life. Anyway, she was being super GFE at this stage so I decided to go for it and suggested a 50 eur /30 min session. Didn't bother negotiating for BBBJ since it was my first shot. She agreed.
Into the room and on we go. Pretty lackluster CBJ & performance overall. She did try to upsell for CIM & to extend to an hour for another 50 eur but quickly accepted my refusal. And she kept trying to stop me going deep in doggie and missionary, very annoying. I guess GFE is only applicable for 100 eur sessions since she was quite starfishy. We finish and I give her her 50 eur at the small lockers.
The next few hours was quite boring to be honest. Spent drinking soft drinks / water at the bar, walking around trying to find a stunner, and gently / not-so-gently refusing advances from girls that were just not my type. I really wish phones were allowed in the club. I don't really remember many of the girls in between, one was a blonde with wavy hair. Cassandra? But that's about all I can remember.
At around 6 pm or so the dinner buffet came out and I see this very pretty faced girl go in with her friend. She looked young with straight blonde hair. A bit curvier than my usual type but my standards are gradually lowering. I walked up to her while she was at the buffet and asked her to find me after she finished dinner.
An hour or so goes past and I don't see her at all. I was about to give up but eventually did see her. Grabbed her and took her to the couches. Her name was Candy and she said this was her 2nd week in Shark. She said she was 19 and Romanian. I don't know anything about European ethnicities but to me she didn't have the Romanian look, I would've guessed German? (apologies, I guess this is similar to white people saying Filipinos looks Japanese). Anyway her face was a 9/10 for me but her body was maybe 6/10. She was very quiet and didn't seem too interested. But after 3 hours in the club I didn't care. Agreed to 100 eur /30 min with BBBJ & CIM since I wanted to see her pretty face. To cut a long story short the session was again pretty average but her face was so pretty it was still worth it to me. It was also nice seeing her breasts bounce in missionary.
It's now 8 pm and I decide to head back to Frankfurt. Unfortunately I was too late to get the 8. 13 pm from Darmstadt Nord so had to pay 10 eur for a taxi to Darmstadt hbf instead. I'm not waiting 2 hours for the next train. Back in my hotel at about 9 pm and crash.
Cost.
Transport: 17 e (train ticket) + 10 e (taxi) = 27 e.
Entrance: 65 e.
Zeynab: 50 e.
Candy: 100 e.
Total: 242 EUR.
Overall opinion:
Pros.
- I really like the concept where the girls are fully / almost fully nude all the time, really lets you check them out (tattoos, silicone, etc).
- A good variety of body types, I'm sure most will find at least a few girls which are their types (except for super picky people like me I guess).
Cons.
- Holy crap cigarette smoke is everywhere. Definitely the biggest negative no question.
- Girls look a bit older than my usual type.
- Have to vet the girls strenuously if you have to have GFE.
Day 2 I'm thinking either World or Oase. World is further away but walkable from Garbenteich station. Oase is closer but am stuck paying an extra 20 e for taxis between friedrichsdorf station at the club. Any suggestions if I just want total stunners (young, slim, pretty face)? High GFE is nice to have, but optics is more important for me.
Nick The G
12-03-18, 12:59
The next few hours was quite boring to be honest.Finally someone admits it here.
Yesterday, Sunday, it was pretty boring there too. Lots of girls sitting at the bar yawning.
Holy crap cigarette smoke is everywhere. Definitely the biggest negative no question.That's one of the signs of boredom there: the girls smoke like mad.
For those who were looking for Betty, she is back.
ExpatLover
12-03-18, 21:37
Since I'm currently suffering from a bit of jet lag, figured I would write down my first ever experience at an FKK and in fact my first time in Germany.
I flew from Asia to another European country, landing at the ungodly hour of 6 am. Then had a 3 hour wait until my train to Frankfurt left the station. Luckily I had chosen a hotel near the HBF so it was a quick walk once I got off the train in Frankfurt. Grabbed a quick burger and a shower and I was ready. I was half tempted to just checked out the RLD houses and take it easy for my first day but FKKs were literally the only reason I came to Germany so can't pussy out now! Used the DB app to buy my tickets and off I went at 15.25. I took the train from Frankfurt HBF to Darmstadt Nord. 8. 50 eur, super convenient and can just walk to Shark from the station (15 minutes). I reached the club around 4 pm.
Walked in, the receptionist was chatting to some regular I assume, so I just handed over my 65 eur and got a bracelet, robe, towel and shoes in return. A quick communal shower and I was ready to go. Into the club and I walked around the bar area trying to familiarize myself with the place. At this time there were way more guys than I expected, I'd guess the girl / guy ratio was 1. 2-1. 5/1. Not terribly great to be honest. In terms of clientele I was a bit surprised. I kind of expected to be one of the only Asians in the club but throughout the night I saw at least 7-8 East Asians (China, Hong Kong and Japan I'm guessing) and a few South Asians (Indians / Pakastanis / etc) as well. Anyway, I found an open seat at the bar next to a group of Chinese people speaking Mandarin. And here comes the girls..If you are looking for fresh girls you are too late, very few newcomers only veteran girls around switching from 1 club to another or from dubai to dublin and madrid, real prostitutes willing to suck your cash.
For those who were looking for Betty, she is back.Good News. Actually I'm not sure, last time I visit Frankfurt. Early November- I didn't see her. And I didn't find any good replacement.
Now she is back. And I will not visit until mid January, I just hope she will be there.
Since I'm currently suffering from a bit of jet lag, figured I would write down my first ever experience at an FKK and in fact my first time in Germany.
I flew from Asia to another European country, landing at the ungodly hour of 6 am. Then had a 3 hour wait until my train to Frankfurt left the station. Luckily I had chosen a hotel near the HBF so it was a quick walk once I got off the train in Frankfurt. Grabbed a quick burger and a shower and I was ready. I was half tempted to just checked out the RLD houses and take it easy for my first day but FKKs were literally the only reason I came to Germany so can't pussy out now! Used the DB app to buy my tickets and off I went at 15.25. I took the train from Frankfurt HBF to Darmstadt Nord. 8. 50 eur, super convenient and can just walk to Shark from the station (15 minutes). I reached the club around 4 pm.
Walked in, the receptionist was chatting to some regular I assume, so I just handed over my 65 eur and got a bracelet, robe, towel and shoes in return. A quick communal shower and I was ready to go. Into the club and I walked around the bar area trying to familiarize myself with the place. At this time there were way more guys than I expected, I'd guess the girl / guy ratio was 1. 2-1. 5/1. Not terribly great to be honest. In terms of clientele I was a bit surprised. I kind of expected to be one of the only Asians in the club but throughout the night I saw at least 7-8 East Asians (China, Hong Kong and Japan I'm guessing) and a few South Asians (Indians / Pakastanis / etc) as well. Anyway, I found an open seat at the bar next to a group of Chinese people speaking Mandarin. And here comes the girls..Everyone's taste is different. For Asian, you will more likely to find someone you like in Oase, Shark then World. You can walk from Friedrichsdolf station to Oase for about 40-45 min. Just use google map, it will lead you to some country side and end up at the back of Oase.
Day 2 I'm thinking either World or Oase. World is further away but walkable from Garbenteich station. Oase is closer but am stuck paying an extra 20 e for taxis between friedrichsdorf station at the club. Any suggestions if I just want total stunners (young, slim, pretty face)? High GFE is nice to have, but optics is more important for me.Go to Oase. The LU last week was significantly better than Sharks. And I too like young, slim atheletic types. None really at Sharks now. Oase had several last week.
Day 2 I'm thinking either World or Oase. World is further away but walkable from Garbenteich station. Oase is closer but am stuck paying an extra 20 e for taxis between friedrichsdorf station at the club. Any suggestions if I just want total stunners (young, slim, pretty face)? High GFE is nice to have, but optics is more important for me.Unless you have very bad time on your hands, you can always walk from Seulberg. It is 30 minutes, but not too bad if you have the time.
Thanks for the info everyone. Ended up going to Oase. Will write the report in that thread in the next day or so.
For those who were looking for Betty, she is back.Face very pretty, but I decline her session. Alas she gain some kilo during break and cellulite to butt.
Hi all,
Always a pleasure to read posts and assess what FKK to visit on my way through Frankfurt and what traps to watch out for! Thanks for that!
I'm up for my 4th visit overall, done 2 oase, 1 sharks and tomorrow another sharks targeted. I hope for a first time to actually use the sauna too and as with Oase's 2nd visit, find some familiar faces.
I actually managed to bring my colleague into this very special world. Let's see if he survives with my tips to avoid traps, but most importantly find the right girls.
Due to our schedule, we'll be in the club quite early tomorrow December 6th. I'm wondering if someone else will join in the afternoon as it would be great to meet fellow mongers and share experiences? Who is in for the hunt?!
I had time to make a short detour to Darmstadt. I enjoyed the food and some to relax and enjoy the many beautiful girls. I was often approached but I was looking for Elif and Amalia. Unfortunately I did not see them, although I thought they were back from vacation. Does anyone know when they will come back? I had in the episode but 3 great sessions with girls whose name I unfortunately forgot. I left the club that evening with a very good feeling and will come back as soon as I can. It is a horny club.
I had time to make a short detour to Darmstadt. I enjoyed the food and some to relax and enjoy the many beautiful girls. I was often approached but I was looking for Elif and Amalia. Unfortunately I did not see them, although I thought they were back from vacation. Does anyone know when they will come back? I had in the episode but 3 great sessions with girls whose name I unfortunately forgot. I left the club that evening with a very good feeling and will come back as soon as I can. It is a horny club.Elif and Amalia were working on last Friday, but not together. Elif is chesnut, Amalia light blond.
Many girls, quite slow business between 8 pm and 10.30 pm. Even Mandy who is prettier with her new, more sophisticated face look with longer hair, seemed available around 8 pm. She left quite early as usual.
The prettiest was for me: Tia. De, but saying not kissing, so even smiling, no room. Leoni. De came smiling proposing 1 h for 100 with kissing, maybe she was told about white wolf, but I m not sure we think about same kissing and love in bed, in German or French, so even smiling, but no spark on this time.
Girls seen: first, for my only German friend in FKK land, your beloved. Also ex Elektra, small Eleanor, blond Jenifer with tired face, Viorica not busy on bar and seemed she lost her freshness for look when she was smiling, Elen with real lack of care for face and hair, Keira with tired face, Brenda but her tits seem less full, Karin, blond Patricia now silicon, Roxy, Inca, Melani, ex Bea who couldn't get business at LR or GT, she doesn't seem so busy also.
Had great welcome from Melina. De ex GT ex Samya, my friend Luci. De ex GT ex YY, come back to GT Luci, to smile to me, don t go to gloomy Hamburg even it s your home. She didn't want to stay for Sharks business and atmosphere, even only started on Thursday. Lovely Debi of course, and what a welcome from lovely Cleo. When most of girls just bullshit and so easy to understand when You see their level, but on this time, I can confirm Cleo really worked at Globe, she was my first Globe girl on 18 June 2016 , when I went for Katalina but didn t know how work Globe. Katalina was not on tour. I saw a blond with natural tits dancing on pole podium, she was the best dancer at Globe, she smiled to me, she noticed I was looking at her, I love real dancers not booty shaking, she came straight to me after her song, she was a so sweet GF for love in bed for 1 hour for 280 CHF at Globe. Only reason I never repeated was Katalina and Isabella. Cleo was so lovely on this Friday, like on each of my visits. If You want to taste what is really Globe excellence, of course prettier girls there, but for love in bed, treat her to get from a woman and You will experience what is really Globe. I really enjoyed her when she was full natural. I wish my advises will help her. Her level deserve a better business. I m sure she would have given me her best.
No Svenja seen, maybe trying Globe? But she is not Cleo for woman sensuality. No Rebeka.
A bit sad to see girls waiting for business, it was even like they didn't anymore believe they could get, at only 8/9 pm, on a Friday, when parking was full.
No wow, no spark for me, so even tired, I didn't know yet why, but moved to far higher level for me, Palace and as soon I arrived I saw my wow girl at the new bar, and felt desire I wanted her, no matter of money. Great choice, passionate first Christmas present.
... I was looking for Elif and Amalia. Unfortunately I did not see them, although I thought they were back from vacation. Does anyone know when they will come back?.Sexy blonde Amalia with smooth skin is back this week at Shark, I speak with her.
For my last Frankfurt day I decided to visit Shark again. This time I skipped lunch and got to Shark at 2 pm (by way of train & walk again). Quickly grabbed some breakfast meats and juice, wolfing it down. For this session I decided to explore a bit more than just staying at the bar and being bored. I checked out the upstairs Jacuzzi and the sauna in the corner. But before all of that, I needed to grab a girl. That girl was Mina.
Mina is a young (Romanian?) slim girl with dark hair, green eyes and dimples. I'd rate her face at a 8/10 and her body 8. 5/10. She was friendly and easy to talk to. Didn't feel like I was rushed into a sale. But after a few minutes I steered the topic of conversation to the room anyway. I wanted 30 minutes, BBBJ, covered sex and anal. Unfortunately, she said she doesn't do anal! Wasn't able to convince her otherwise, I pivoted to 60 minutes, BBBJ and covered sex for 100 eur. Mina seemed quite happy with that number and off we went.
Into the room and we continue to chat / laugh. She has an excellent BJ but mentioned she does not CIM (although COF is okay for some reason). Had to stop her on 2 occasions otherwise I definitely would've CIM'd. Moving onto sex we did missionary, cowgirl, prone bone and doggie. Then we ended on BBBJ again but without a finish (through no fault of Mina). Overall I think this was the best FKK session I've had so far in terms of attitude and chemistry. Would definitely be willing to repeat, if I wasn't leaving the next day.
Next I went to the sauna. Now, I'd been to plenty of saunas in Asia so I figured this'll be the exact same thing. Then I saw this random guy steaming up the room and waving towels around. I guess this was an employee of the club or something and after he did his thing the whole sauna clapped. (as thanks for his service?
After that (and after a much needed shower) I decided to head up the stairs and relaxed in one of the more private cabanas. Here I was able to play on my phone a bit. Shark doesn't offer any wifi services, but unlike Oase I was able to have 4 g connections throughout the facilities. So here I was just hiding away and suddenly a tall dark brunette introduced herself as Vanessa.
The area I was in was quite dark, so at first I couldn't tell much about her. I knew she was taller and not as petite as I usually liked, but her face was pretty enough. 8/10 face & 7. 5/10 body. I tried to I just wanted to relax and rest for a bit, but seeing as I didn't finish with Mina my body betrayed me very quickly (the cialis also didn't help! And since she was offering 30 min BBBJ, covered sex and anal for 150 eur I was quite willing to accept her as my second session of the day.
Into the room and she gave another very reasonable BJ. Jumped on CG for a few minutes then quickly moved to anal CG then anal missionary. But after only a quick few minutes she started complaining of pain. I think next time I'll have to specify a long anal session into negotiations since I just paid 100 eur for less than 5 minutes of anal. Anyway, we changed condoms and I finished up in doggie.
It's now 6 pm and I decided to have some dinner. Chatted to a nice Asian American gentlemen who was here for the first time and let him know about the direct train from Darmstadt Nord to Frankfurt hbf.
After dinner I went to the upstairs Jacuzzi to relax some more but the cigarette smell from downstairs really was everywhere. Another dark haired Romanian chatted me up, trying to convince me for another session but I knew from experience a third session was almost guaranteed to end poorly so unfortunately I had to decline. This girl had the slim petite figure that I liked but her face wasn't my type. Not sure what her name was.
Throughout my stay here I saw both my previous girls, Zeynab and Candy. Both of which came up at some point trying for a repeat which I declined. I could've been tempted into a 30 min anal session with both but unfortunately the timing was never right.
And the rest of the night was like that as well, just trying to relax and fending off the girls. Had another quick dinner and left with the fella I was talking to at the first dinner since he was staying near frankfurt too. Left at 8 pm and split the taxi to Darmstadt Nord station.
Cost.
Transport: 16.55 e (return train ticket) + 5 e (taxi fair, shared) = 21.55 e.
Entrance: 50 e (Wednesday discount).
Mina: 100 e.
Vanessa: 150 e.
Total: 321.55 e.
Overall opinion:
Pros.
- There were way more girls in the club today, with overall quality notably higher than Sunday.
Cons.
- Cigarette smoke is still a huge issue for me. I already had a cough these few days and the atmosphere definitely made things worse (this is why none of my sessions mentioned DFK, as I didn't want to get any of the girls sick).
Now I'm off to the NRW area for the next few days to try Samya & Living Room. I love my vacation!
I had time to make a short detour to Darmstadt. I enjoyed the food and some to relax and enjoy the many beautiful girls. I was often approached but I was looking for Elif and Amalia. Unfortunately I did not see them, although I thought they were back from vacation. Does anyone know when they will come back? I had in the episode but 3 great sessions with girls whose name I unfortunately forgot. I left the club that evening with a very good feeling and will come back as soon as I can. It is a horny club.I recently concluded my trip and visited Sharks 5 days consecutively, I think I saw both of at least 3 out of the 5 days. Had 3 sessions with Amalia (who is a sweetheart). I think you might've just missed them because it was their off night.
ExpatLover
12-06-18, 21:44
For my last Frankfurt day I decided to visit Shark again. This time I skipped lunch and got to Shark at 2 pm (by way of train & walk again). Quickly grabbed some breakfast meats and juice, wolfing it down. For this session I decided to explore a bit more than just staying at the bar and being bored. I checked out the upstairs Jacuzzi and the sauna in the corner. But before all of that, I needed to grab a girl. That girl was Mina.
Mina is a young (Romanian?) slim girl with dark hair, green eyes and dimples. I'd rate her face at a 8/10 and her body 8. 5/10. She was friendly and easy to talk to. Didn't feel like I was rushed into a sale. But after a few minutes I steered the topic of conversation to the room anyway. I wanted 30 minutes, BBBJ, covered sex and anal. Unfortunately, she said she doesn't do anal! Wasn't able to convince her otherwise, I pivoted to 60 minutes, BBBJ and covered sex for 100 eur. Mina seemed quite happy with that number and off we went..Sunday is a nightmare in all the big FKK, many girls don t want to get fucked for 50 euros by guys who are not eating pork.
Member #4636
12-07-18, 20:42
I have visited Sharks before but it was only for an hour during the night and I had bad impression because of the smoke and because it was too crowded so I left without a session. I promised myself to give it a second try so this was the time.
I was there on a Wednesday afternoon and stayed until 5 pm.
L / U.
The line up was on a very satisfactory level. You could actually find whatever you liked, blonde, brunette, slim, fat, white, black everything. I think there must have been more than 50 ladies and most of them were very good looking. I assume it even improves during the night. I find the line up better than other clubs I have visited.
Facilities.
I like the club because it is huge with a wonderful outside area and the internal decor is very cool. You can move around the club and don't get bored. The two Jacuzzi on the top floor are cool and the water was nice and warm. Food was very good all least the brunch and some fruits and sweets I tried, Better than Manhattan and just one level higher than palace. Sauna was OK and I also tried the Thai masseur which was very good, worth every euro. The smoke was not an issue for me and maybe this is because the very high ceiling and the size of the club.
Sessions.
First session was just 5 minutes after I entered with a 23 yo RO called Rebecca. Blonde and naughty look she started with a very good BBBJ and ended fucking hard in various positions before taking it all in mouth. I would take her again no problem.
Second session was with a beautiful blonde lady that claimed to be Italian and her name was Francesca. I am not sure if she was Italian or not but she talked a lot of Italian to me, which I don't know if it was Italian or Romanian but who cares at the end of the day LOL.
She started with a wonderful BBBJ and then she told me 'Oh baby I want this dick in my ass'. That was it! In one minute I was banging hard her ass and continued doing this for 30 minutes in various positions. I loved her ass so much that I forgot she also has a pussy LOL. At the end she also received a lovely CIM. This girl was unique, not only she was the first I took in the ass in a FKK without even asking, but she also never asked my name or where do I come from. The fuck was in an igloo near the jacuzzi, small cool rooms.
After that I decided to relax in the jacuzzi but a girl approached me and she asked me if the water is nice. I told her to get in and tty and she got on top of my stroking me dick for another 30 minutes before taking her in the room for a 3rd round. Not anything special and I don't even remember her name.
Other.
I noticed there were many older men which was nice to see. In my country elder men usually go to coffee shops and spend their day talking about politics and other bullshit. In Germany they go to fuck young teens so respect to these people, I wish I will do the same in their age.
I saw many expensive cars larked outside and a black rolls Royce that probably belonged to an Asian guy I saw inside smoking expensive cigars all the time harks.
There was one brunette lady with top style and amazing tits walking around like a diva. I didn't talk to her because she was always busy talking with other men but she definitely was something different from the majority.
I saw some girls coming from Palace to Sharks. After I was told that there is a number of 15-20 girls that keep moving between 3 clubs in FRA area.
Conclusion.
I think that Sharks is just top level compared to other clubs I have visited. I have not visited Oase or World yet but compared to Artemis, Palace and Manhattan it is much better in line up and facilities. The inside vibe is just better. It is like comparing a 5 star hotel with a 4 star. I don't have a clear view about upsell or not I have to go 1-2 more times again. I think the time I visited was good if I ever visit again it will be the same time.
For my last Frankfurt day I decided to visit Shark again. This time I skipped lunch and got to Shark at 2 pm (by way of train & walk again). Quickly grabbed some breakfast meats and juice, wolfing it down. For this session I decided to explore a bit more than just staying at the bar and being bored. I checked out the upstairs Jacuzzi and the sauna in the corner. But before all of that, I needed to grab a girl. That girl was Mina.
Mina is a young (Romanian?) slim girl with dark hair, green eyes and dimples. I'd rate her face at a 8/10 and her body 8. 5/10. She was friendly and easy to talk to. Didn't feel like I was rushed into a sale. But after a few minutes I steered the topic of conversation to the room anyway. I wanted 30 minutes, BBBJ, covered sex and anal. Unfortunately, she said she doesn't do anal! Wasn't able to convince her otherwise, I pivoted to 60 minutes, BBBJ and covered sex for 100 eur. Mina seemed quite happy with that number and off we went.
Into the room and we continue to chat / laugh. She has an excellent BJ but mentioned she does not CIM (although COF is okay for some reason).The guy who waived the towels is Sauna Master. There is note by the main Sauna room with different time. I believe that every hour on the hour, from maybe 6 pm, this guy will come to perform this Sauna Master thing. He normally has belt with him. I really enjoy it though it is very hot there. BTW Sauna in Asia is totally different than Sauna in Europe.
I have visited Sharks before but it was only for an hour during the night and I had bad impression because of the smoke and because it was too crowded so I left without a session. I promised myself to give it a second try so this was the time.
I was there on a Wednesday afternoon and stayed until 5 pm.
...if I ever visit again it will be the same time.How much did you pay for anal and com with the Italian Francesca? How long was the session. That sounds like my kind of girl, I have issues finding girls that can take me for anal because I'm a bit thick which makes it painful for inexperienced girls even if I don't go deep.
Good report. I'll be back in the western land of smiles next week after a year and half so very curious to see how things go for me.
I have visited Sharks before but it was only for an hour during the night and I had bad impression because of the smoke and because it was too crowded so I left without a session. I promised myself to give it a second try so this was the time.
I was there on a Wednesday afternoon and stayed until 5 pm.
L / U.
The line up was on a very satisfactory level. You could actually find whatever you liked, blonde, brunette, slim, fat, white, black everything. I think there must have been more than 50 ladies and most of them were very good looking. I assume it even improves during the night. I find the line up better than other clubs I have visited..Yes, you have quantity at Sharks, unfortunately I didn't notice on last Friday, your brunette diva, I love divas and princesses, for a prince. Only Tia was really desirable for me, smiling welcoming but her no kissing was a killing desire, I was nearly to cry not to touch such milky skin with angel smile. No other wow girls seen, no tall blond Romanian Francesca nor Romanian Stefi, only Romanian Elen with average look for face. I prefer to find only 1 but real wow girl, even very / too expensive, at higher level Palace.
About all bullshits said in this business, I heard about a real fight on Sunday 2 December night, between Hells angels and 1 Albanian, where is Sharks security? Poor girls with such clients, when it was really slow business on previous Friday evening. If he is in the law, I would have called Polizei to complain and get money from complaint.
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