View Full Version : Erlebniswohnung GangBang Club - Berlin
VonderJohn
07-23-19, 17:00
This is one of the best posts I have seen in quite a while, really informing us what is going behind the scenes. I really do think Mustapha loves his work (he himself even participates). If ERW ever disappears, it would be a loss to the mongering community. Thanks for the share.Exactly. We need to understand what is really going on and what are the root causes for the changes before making judgement on the place. And the best way to do that is to have a face-to-face, profound and honest discussion with Moustapha. This is exactly what I did and he was very welcoming to answer the questions and was aware of the issues.
We then need to adjust our expectations. Back at Karl Marx, I used to expect to have a round of sex with every lady. Which is once every hour or so, for the entire day.
Now in the new location, I'd be happy if I had 3 rounds of sex over the entire day.
And yes, Moustapha is sincerely trying his best. It's the law to blame. Not him.
I was there a few weeks ago, on a weekend. Let me just lay out my impressions and compare it to when I went earlier to the old place at Karl Marx.
1. The ratio on a Saturday was skewed. For long periods, hours long, there would be no action. Just men watching TV. There was one girl, but she was busy with her cell phone. Once, there were two women both of whom were just chatting away while all the men were wandering about.
2. Naturally, when a girl finally went to the room there would be a crowd.
3. While before I used to have one on one sessions (some of the best sex I've ever had was at EW), now that does not exist. Bored and bitchy women were the norm not the exception.
4. I spend a day there and overall there were four to five women in total, and never at the same time. One girl worked both in the afternoon and the evening.
5. Earlier, the girls had fun, but now with about six to seven men to one woman, not so much. It is very mechanical.
6. There was no DATY which was common in the old location. There, usually the number of women was higher.
I understand that Mustafa has some problems, but the new place is not so far away from the old one. There are direct lines. It s a leafy suburb of Berlin, and not somewhere far out in the countryside. I don t see why better management cannot fix problems. When I was there, and comparing it to the old times, there were quite a few customers, almost the same number as before. In the evening the customers went up to around 20, but there were only two women. I don t think anyone has decided not to come because it is a few subway stops away. At one time I counted around 10 men, but no woman was there. If the price structure is the same, then why not get a few more women? Mustafa cannot blame everything on the new law, and depend on the support of customers. I am sure that with some changes it would be just as great as it once was. If Mustafa has financial problems, then the obvious solution is to make the place more attractive. Right now, I don t see myself going back.
VonderJohn
09-08-19, 17:14
Thank you for your reports. I totally understand and can relate to what you said. Especially:
"For long periods, hours long, there would be no action. Just men watching TV". And "when a girl finally went to the room there would be a crowd".
And these long hours can be demotivating and can get you tired, besides making this place much less attractive. Plus, the crowd around the lady when she comes in makes the sex experience less appealing, even annoying to the customer.
Yet what you said about "better management" . Like what? Yes, I know Mustafa should get more ladies, but his problem is that no many ladies are actually willing to come as much as he or the customers wish. If it was up to him, he'd bring 2-3 ladies every two hours. But I don't think he is able to do this. Can he? Would be good to have some concrete suggestions on how to improve the management of this. In my view, I think limiting the time to avoid long hours of waiting (instead of starting at 12, start at 3. This reduces costs and allows for more ladies in less time) is one way to improve the experience.
Thoughts?
I was there a few weeks ago, on a weekend. Let me just lay out my impressions and compare it to when I went earlier to the old place at Karl Marx.
1. The ratio on a Saturday was skewed. For long periods, hours long, there would be no action. Just men watching TV. There was one girl, but she was busy with her cell phone. Once, there were two women both of whom were just chatting away while all the men were wandering about.
2. Naturally, when a girl finally went to the room there would be a crowd.
3. While before I used to have one on one sessions (some of the best sex I've ever had was at EW), now that does not exist. Bored and bitchy women were the norm not the exception.
4. I spend a day there and overall there were four to five women in total, and never at the same time. One girl worked both in the afternoon and the evening..
I really don t understand the argument. How is it that there were more girls in Karl Marx. The new place is just a few subway stops away. Just a few more girls would be motivation enough to visit the place frequently. Perhaps pay more? The number of customers has not gone down. I have been to both places. And if the girls were paid more, more customers would come. Right now, what s the point? When I was there the people having the most fun were private couples who were pretty exclusive. This is now more like a swinger s club, and two men and one woman, or three men and one woman is fun, but I really doubt that the current setup is good in anyway. Unless one likes to watch live sex shows.
Thank you for your reports. I totally understand and can relate to what you said. Especially:
"For long periods, hours long, there would be no action. Just men watching TV". And "when a girl finally went to the room there would be a crowd".
And these long hours can be demotivating and can get you tired, besides making this place much less attractive. Plus, the crowd around the lady when she comes in makes the sex experience less appealing, even annoying to the customer.
Yet what you said about "better management" . Like what? Yes, I know Mustafa should get more ladies, but his problem is that no many ladies are actually willing to come as much as he or the customers wish. If it was up to him, he'd bring 2-3 ladies every two hours. But I don't think he is able to do this. Can he? Would be good to have some concrete suggestions on how to improve the management of this. In my view, I think limiting the time to avoid long hours of waiting (instead of starting at 12, start at 3. This reduces costs and allows for more ladies in less time) is one way to improve the experience.
Thoughts?
I really don t understand the argument. How is it that there were more girls in Karl Marx. The new place is just a few subway stops away. Just a few more girls would be motivation enough to visit the place frequently. Perhaps pay more? The number of customers has not gone down. I have been to both places. And if the girls were paid more, more customers would come. Right now, what s the point? When I was there the people having the most fun were private couples who were pretty exclusive. This is now more like a swinger s club, and two men and one woman, or three men and one woman is fun, but I really doubt that the current setup is good in anyway. Unless one likes to watch live sex shows.In order to guarantee the the number of the girls and the quality of service, is it possible for the owner to rise the entrance price to 150-200 euros?
VonderJohn
10-12-19, 22:06
In order to guarantee the the number of the girls and the quality of service, is it possible for the owner to rise the entrance price to 150-200 euros?I don't think so. This will not bring more customers. Reason? Competitors like Insomnia set the entrance price between 80 - 95 euros for their Thursday gangbangs (where there are more ladies available from 2 pm until midnight). What is needed is more investment by Mustapha to pay and attract more ladies.
BingaBiloglu
10-29-19, 09:56
I've been there once before the law, it was very good. If you are a shy guy, that is not cup of your coffee.
We plan to be there again on December and could not find their own internet site, maybe the link is broken.
Could you please confirm me that, club is still standing?
Also please advice, if noel holiday affects existence of club girls. Can or shall I go there at noel time?
Spent a couple of evenings at Erlebniswohnung recently and had a great time as always. There are some shortcomings as per the rest of this thread but the bottom line is that on both occasions I had sex with three to four girls and left with a smile on my face. The club seems to be doing well as there were a lot of guys on both occasions.
There was a pattern to both days. From lunchtime to late afternoon, the same two girls were rotating with one appearing every hour or so. On the first occasion one of the two girls was not my type at all and this meant the fun was only once every two hours and a lot of time was spent hanging around. Around 6 pm on both occasions, two very attractive young girls appeared and were obviously the main billing, appearing last in the line up as a grand finale.
I think two easy adjustments would improve the experience for me. First having an announcement of some kind when a girl enters the room. The schedule is unpredictable and so without an announcement, it isn't possible to relax in case you miss a show. It is always necessary to be alert and keep an eye on things. Secondly, it would be great if the main event was a little earlier. On both occasions the really cute girls entered the room at around 11.30 pm. I personally find out hard to be at my best after shagging and lying around all day. And I am not alone, many of the guys had left by the time the girls appeared. Holding the main event at around 9. 30 would ensure it is more energetic.
VonderJohn.
This is a really good post and Interview.
I also miss the golden era of ERW in Karl Max Strasse. I do not really have a problem with the current location as it could still easily be reached by you-Bahn.
The problem here is that sometimes you will need to wait 2 hours before another girl turn up, especially in the afternoon. The quality of the girl is much lower than it used to be in Karl Max Strasse. I do not mind the entry price to be increased EUR10 (say) if the quality of the girls are increased.
I made a few visits here over in the last two weeks. They were open throughout the holidays, and since Artemis was closed for most of these days, they offered some relief.
First I'll recap on what has been reported already: It is still one girl per hour. If you are there from 6 PM onwards there should be about three to four girls on rotation. There will be about 10-25 guys in each session. CBJ is the norm but BBJs do happen, just keep an eye out for it. There is an etiquette to gangbangs and most (including the girls) know it. If someone is out of order, make it known that you are waiting and the offender will usually get the hint and move 9 times out of 10.
First visit on Dec 21st:
Celine was my clear favourite https://www.erlebniswohnung.com/profile/3780/celine . She has a bubbly attitude. Very cute and young German blonde with a tight body. She was friendly and made sure everyone got a turn. Ariel Cuba https://www.erlebniswohnung.com/profile/3936/Ariel%20Cuba was the workhorse of the bunch. She was in the room most often. But I found her boring. She makes no effort in her look. She is just wrapped in a towel and wears flip-flops all day. She looks like she came up through a flat rate. I skipped her. She did not make for good viewing either. There was one more that may have been Rachel https://www.erlebniswohnung.com/profile/39/Rachel. She was much older. But seemed like she had a good attitude and was offering BBJs. I skipped her. Older hippie chicks are not my bag. Black Swan was there https://www.erlebniswohnung.com/profile/455/Black%20Swan. Although because of a negative experience I had with her at Royal earlier that week, I was avoiding her. She gave me a death look at one point, which confirmed that I should stay away. No loss. I noticed that she was very pushy when in play, ordering the guys around. Felt relived that I didn't ruin my chances with some kind of super star performer. I only came once that day with Celine during a CBJ. No one else really did it for me.
Second visit on Dec 24th (Christmas Eve Party).
I spent more time with Celine. Who is great in all sorts of positions and with her CBJs. I came once in doggy with her as soon as I arrived. There was a new girl https://www.erlebniswohnung.com/profile/3934/Nita who was an English speaker from Georgia. She was fresh and young and strangely very shy. She kept getting up to close the curtains. She shoo Mustafa out of the room when he was doing a spot check. She tended to burry her face down and avoid eye content when in play. I came once with her in boggy. She is a bit heavier than I like so after that I was pretty much done for the day. There was one lady there who looked great. Layla https://www.erlebniswohnung.com/profile/1186/layla%20Beauty. But she was working the door the entire 4 hours I was there (6 pm to 10 pm). She was drinking, singing and dancing the whole time to. I'm sure everyone was waiting around for her to play but I wasn't about to wait longer for what was starting to look like a 25 guy line-up.
Third visit on Dec 25th. It was surprisingly active for Christmas day.
Ariel Cuba was doing her thing. She was in and out of the room for a solid two hours. But again. She does nothing for me so I just waited around to see what would be next. I was glad I waited because it was Trish. https://www.erlebniswohnung.com/profile/1187/Trish. A tall, light skinned black girl, with a good body and very pretty face. She worked a room of about 10 guys very well. By that I mean, she gave BBJs to whoever wanted one. She was in doggy position the entire time, so guys were just lined up like a train, pumping and dumping. I came twice while on that train. She's great. I called it a night when I saw Ariel Cuba head back into the room afterwards. I figured it was another 2 hours of this flat-rate club girl as 'filler'.
Fourth and final visit on the 28th.
I arrived at around 8 pm. Paid 70 EUR and got ready. All the rooms were empty and there were about 25 guys waiting around. Layla was working the door again, while singing and dancing in the main room. Trish then joined her and the both of them kept dancing and screaming like teenagers for the whole the 3 hours I was there. They were ignoring everyone and everyone was ignoring them. Not a great vibe. The owner was running around in a towel pretending to be a guest. Whatever. The young Turkish guy who does the cleaning up was hassling me for Viagra. All this did not make for a great atmosphere.
After about 30 minutes the first act came up. Lucy https://www.erlebniswohnung.com/profile/23/Lucy%20Geil who is a slightly plump young German girl. Kinda cute but also a bit plain. Before she started she yelled 'Blazen wit Gummi'. She was with was an older German blonde woman. Finally, a duo like in the old days. But this was lame. 15 guys waiting around, while these two chicks played with each other. Sure it was fun to watch for the first few minutes, but this went on the whole time. They were constantly playing with each other which means not only do I have to fight my way through 15 guys, both the girls are also distracted with each other! Lame. I walked out. Luckily in the next room I saw more action. It was Nita https://www.erlebniswohnung.com/profile/3934/Nita . She was on her back with maybe 5 guys around her. She stayed like that for her whole 15 minutes of play. She does not do much for me, although her newness is a bit of a turn on. I stood around for a while but the guys in that room were. Lets just say non-corporative. So I left.
Back out in the waiting area, the buffet was looking untended. So I skipped on the food and headed to the sauna to wait things out. The girls ended their session and it was another hour of waiting while the two hottest girls in the house dance around knowingly teasing the guys. Layla had the music system synced up to her phone so between her and Trish it was like having two teenagers switch through their play lists at ADD speeds. Finally, the wait was over and the next show was about to start. But. It was Lucy and the older woman again. I popped my head in and saw exactly the same scene as before. 15 guys with dicks in hand while the two women playing with each other. At this point I had enough. There was this deliberate air of cock teasing from all the women in the house that day and it was just not cool.
I might visit EW again in the summer. Maybe by then they'll improve their formula. In my view its rather simple. He needs to up the price to get more consistency from the women and get properly trained staff to keep the place clean and orderly.
At 70-100 EURs this place packs in allot value. This is no doubt. What if he made entry 150? I don't think that would stop anyone, if it meant a better experience.
VonderJohn
01-12-20, 04:39
Hey Fake It.
Just wanted to dearly thank you for the time and effort you spent in providing us with all these details.
Your experience relates a lot to what I've recently witnessed too:
1) The long hours of waiting with no action.
2) The hungry crowds over a single pussy.
3) The occasional good ladies providing good fucks.
4) The very boring, cold, no-feeling, no-reaction Ariel Cuba.
Your description of the train was funny. This does happen sometimes when there's a passionate lady ready and strong enough to take it. I'm glad you had that.
Yet in my view, I think Mustapha is relying too much on his past reputation at Karl Marx, the word-of-mouth and the lousy website. More effort should be spent in reaching out to new customers but also, more effort and money should be spent on recruiting newer and better ladies. He should start thinking on the lines of "what would make more ladies cross the distances and come more consistently? More money? Extra tips (from the customers or Mustapha) for good performance? Other benefits? Depending only on giving the ladies a per / hour or per / day rate is not attractive enough for the ladies, in my view.
I've been visiting Insomnia (on specific nights) more than ERW because of the decline I'm seeing at ERW. I will probably visit more often if the performance improves. I'm still hopeful. Not sure about you guys.
I made a few visits here over in the last two weeks. They were open throughout the holidays, and since Artemis was closed for most of these days, they offered some relief.
First I'll recap on what has been reported already: It is still one girl per hour. If you are there from 6 PM onwards there should be about three to four girls on rotation. There will be about 10-25 guys in each session. CBJ is the norm but BBJs do happen, just keep an eye out for it. There is an etiquette to gangbangs and most (including the girls) know it. If someone is out of order, make it known that you are waiting and the offender will usually get the hint and move 9 times out of 10.
First visit on Dec 21st:.
AssLover46
01-27-20, 14:22
Reading (with google translate) some of the German language forums it seems as though the EW apartment has actually improved a little this January with shorter hours, lower prices and at least according to some, better action and less waiting! Can anybody confirm this who has visited since the new year? And VonderJohn, have you been recently to any Tuesday events at Insomnia. And if so, how would they compare to EW? I have one Tuesday coming up in a few weeks where I can choose one or the other. Either way, I will review it, but want to make the best decision. Thanks in advance to anyone who can keep these pages alive with some reviews!!
Hey Fake It.
Just wanted to dearly thank you for the time and effort you spent in providing us with all these details.
Your experience relates a lot to what I've recently witnessed too:
1) The long hours of waiting with no action.
2) The hungry crowds over a single pussy.
3) The occasional good ladies providing good fucks.
4) The very boring, cold, no-feeling, no-reaction Ariel Cuba.
I've been visiting Insomnia (on specific nights) more than ERW because of the decline I'm seeing at ERW. I will probably visit more often if the performance improves. I'm still hopeful. Not sure about you guys.
VonderJohn
02-07-20, 00:58
Reading (with google translate) some of the German language forums it seems as though the EW apartment has actually improved a little this January with shorter hours, lower prices and at least according to some, better action and less waiting! Can anybody confirm this who has visited since the new year? And VonderJohn, have you been recently to any Tuesday events at Insomnia. And if so, how would they compare to EW? I have one Tuesday coming up in a few weeks where I can choose one or the other. Either way, I will review it, but want to make the best decision. Thanks in advance to anyone who can keep these pages alive with some reviews!!Hello,
So to answer your question, yes I've been into multiple Tuesday events at Insomnia. I've also tried their Thursday and Saturday events. To make it brief, here's how I rank them:
1) Saturday Night Fuck.
2) Thursday events.
3) Tuesday (International sex affairs) . Ranks equally with almost any ERW day.
The thing is, Tuesday events are mixed and include new and old visitors. They are international, so you may end up having tourists, visitors, and new comers who are not used to the concept or are simply not active sexually. So it really depends on your luck. You can hit or miss. Its far from being a guaranteed pleasure. Very much depends on the quality and demographic of the crowd.
Thursday events are more promising. They are longer, have more people and so more chances for shagging. If you're patient enough and come in the right time, you can secure 3 shags in a span of 6 hours on Thursdays in Insomnia. Almost equal to the number of shags you can get from a full day of ERW.
Saturday Night Fuck events are the most popular, most sexually active and more entertaining. But they are very rare (once every month).
I recommend you try Tuesdays. But with very modest expectations (one or two shags). But have more hopes for Thursdays. Although they are more expensive, my experience showed me that they're worth it. Once, over two weeks, I tried two Thursdays and one Tuesday in Insomnia. And only one day at ERW. The ERW day was not worth my time and expectations.
So yeah, go for Tuesdays at Insomnia. But Thursdays too.
Enjoy the fun.
VonderJohn
03-14-20, 01:15
From the official ERW website:
Dear guests and friends of the adventure apartment:
Today the 13-03-2020 we heard from our mayor in the press conference that we are expected to close from 18.03. 2020 until 20.04. 2020 due to the current situation with COVID - 19.
https://www.n-tv.de/politik/Berlin-schliesst-Kneipen-Clubs-und-Bars-article21640289.html
We accept and respect the decision of the Senate and hope that it will all be over soon. Human health comes before our pleasure.
BukkakeMan
05-24-20, 17:21
According to their website, Erlebniswohnung is now definitely shut done and closed! Just so sad, so sad! I have had the most fantastic sex experiences of my life at that club!
According to their website, Erlebniswohnung is now definitely shut done and closed! Just so sad, so sad! I have had the most fantastic sex experiences of my life at that club!Indeed sad. Another venue bites the dust. How glorious it once was. Am now thankful I managed to grab a few days there on the tail end. Let us all hope that from the ashes a new and better venue will rise. Truth be told, ever since relocating from Karl Marx, ERW has had a slow demise. This was just the final nail. Barring further unfriendly legislation, ERW’s closing could be the shake up that the GB scene needed. Will now keep an eye on the main Berlin thread to see how things pan out.
Erlebniswohnung was the best club bar none. I had so much many incredible experiences there over the years. Here's hoping that Mustafa has the energy to start again,.
VonderJohn
06-07-20, 23:35
I join you guys in mourning the place. It is expected. Moustapha has a rent to pay, and no income to pay it.
I've also had beautiful days and moments there. I'm glad I got that chance before COVID. I will keep replaying these memories in my mind, even writing them down in my journals to keep them alive. But.
I have a strong feeling that it will rise again from the ashes. Whether it would be the ERW or something of a different name or slightly different format, it represents hedonism and this is in the heart of Berlin's culture. The sex parties market in Berlin has existed for years and there are many reasons for it to rise again. COVID brought a big blow, but not a final one. I think it will only be a pause.
Join the mourning. The web site has disappeared now. Really Sad Sad.
Erleniswohnung has a huge amount of fixed cost to pay. With no income how could you manage to pay such huge amount of rent?
He literally rents the whole building from the Ground floor until the top, but It is only levels 3 used for GB party is profitable. The Other rooms are for Venus private apartments which are occasionally used for porn shooting but empty most of the time. From the beginning these Venus private apartments has slowly contribute to the demise of this great GB party. The COVID-19 pandemic is the final nail in the coffin.
Venus private apartment is a bad business from the beginning as he will not be able to compete with FKK and other brothels, hobby huren spread around Berlin coniodering the girl + rent.
Erlebniswohnung might have a huge amount of fixed costs to pay, but right now Mustafa is facing different kind of problems: This week a trial against him began at the Berlin Regional Court.
Mustafa is accused by the prosecution of pimping, human trafficking, and sexual abuse of juveniles. His youngest victim was 16 years old. At the beginning of the trial, he already made a partial confession.
Already in 2011, there were first indications of underage prostitutes in the apartment. Two raids followed, during which a 17-year-old and a 15-year-old were encountered. According to the news magazine Focus, the investigation was dragged out by the Berlin State Criminal Police Office. In 2018, Efe was sentenced to three years in prison for promoting sexual acts with minors.
So I strongly doubt that Mustafa will rise again from the ashes.
Thanks for the update, he was always a kind of hands-on operator, Does anyone remember Becky, Short black hair, a ton of fun.
VonderJohn
03-21-21, 00:52
Thanks for the update, he was always a kind of hands-on operator, Does anyone remember Becky, Short black hair, a ton of fun.Oh yes. The tall short haired cock-hungry, flexible nymph who never gets enough of dicks or cum on her face. Literally.
VonderJohn
03-21-21, 01:13
Erlebniswohnung might have a huge amount of fixed costs to pay, but right now Mustafa is facing different kind of problems: This week a trial against him began at the Berlin Regional Court.
Mustafa is accused by the prosecution of pimping, human trafficking, and sexual abuse of juveniles. His youngest victim was 16 years old. At the beginning of the trial, he already made a partial confession.
Already in 2011, there were first indications of underage prostitutes in the apartment. Two raids followed, during which a 17-year-old and a 15-year-old were encountered. According to the news magazine Focus, the investigation was dragged out by the Berlin State Criminal Police Office. In 2018, Efe was sentenced to three years in prison for promoting sexual acts with minors.
So I strongly doubt that Mustafa will rise again from the ashes.That's interesting. I personally never saw any minor working as a sex worker in that apartment, and I've been there tens of times, ever since it was at Karl Marx.
I won't say the above news is surprising, because Mustafa isn't particularly ethical or non-abusive. I have witnessed him clash with some ladies in the apartment more than once. But I'm surprised by the fact that he was not imprisoned well before. I've been to the apartment in 2019 and 2018 and he was not imprisoned. He was right there.
Does that mean he is currently in prison or what exactly is going on?
If you have a link to the article or its title, please share.
Oh yes. The tall short haired cock-hungry, flexible nymph who never gets enough of dicks or cum on her face. Literally.Yeah that girl, and she loved every minute of it.
Hey guys,
I've visited Erlebniswohnung once and it was amazing. Now that the place has shut down, is there any other similar gangbang club that might've opened up? Any options out there?
VonderJohn
03-26-21, 12:23
Hey guys,
I've visited Erlebniswohnung once and it was amazing. Now that the place has shut down, is there any other similar gangbang club that might've opened up? Any options out there?For me, Insomnia on Tuesdays, Thursdays and some Saturdays is the next best option, as a Swinger club (the closest possible to a gangbang). Followed by Annie Porshe. Not sure about Annie Porshe though if it's still opened or not.
And of course I'm talking about the post-pandemic period. Nothing is open now.
That's interesting. I personally never saw any minor working as a sex worker in that apartment, and I've been there tens of times, ever since it was at Karl Marx.
I won't say the above news is surprising, because Mustafa isn't particularly ethical or non-abusive. I have witnessed him clash with some ladies in the apartment more than once. But I'm surprised by the fact that he was not imprisoned well before. I've been to the apartment in 2019 and 2018 and he was not imprisoned. He was right there.
Does that mean he is currently in prison or what exactly is going on?
If you have a link to the article or its title, please share.Most Berlin newspapers and even some national ones reported the case.
You can check here https://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/berliner-bordell-mit-flatrate-prinzip-ex-betriebsrat-wegen-zuhaelterei-menschenhandel-und-missbrauch-vor-gericht/26993952.html.
Or here for example https://www.rbb24.de/panorama/beitrag/2021/03/berlin-prozess-bordell-minderjaehrige-neukoelln.html.
Regarding the minors, it seems they worked there only some sundays for a selected group of guests.
Since end of last year Mustafa is in pending investigation. The verdict is expected until end of April.
Yeah that girl, and she loved every minute of it.For the Becci lovers:
She also used to frequent the Insomnia parties on Thursdays.
Good to know my memory is shared, I only have a few memorable encounters,The other one is tessa, From insomnia, Short blond hairA little chubby, Had a girlfriend Also chubby They work together, If they got on you, You had a good time, Hope to find More MemoriesWhen Germany, Reopens, As far as I can tell, The only places left, Are Annie Porsche, Insomnia, And maybe airport, BTW When insomnia's opens, Check out the cuddle parties, It turns out to all out orgy......
https://www.anni-porsche.de/
According to the German Wikipedia page for Erlebniswohnung, Mustafe has been sentenced to three years and ten months in prison:
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erlebniswohnung
Google translate states:
In 2021, another trial against Efe began at the Berlin Regional Court; charges were pimping, human trafficking and sexual abuse of a 16-year-old woman. Efe made a partial confession and was sentenced to three years and ten months in prison.
For what it is worth I personally never encountered anyone who looked remotely underage.
For what it is worth I personally never encountered anyone who looked remotely underage.Me neither. Always women in their 20's at least.
Mustafa often hogged the women for himself. Lying on his back and getting really long blowjobs.
I have never encountered any underage woman there. Most were in the 20's and several in their 30's. All were enthusiastic.
There is a new wave of woke feminists in Germany who cannot accept the fact that women too love sex, and a lot of women are happy to do a job they love for money. A lot more than one can earn in Amazon or in a call center.
There have been several demonstrations by sex workers asking that the brothels be reopened, and sex workers are also against the laws passed in 2017.
However, their voices are ignored by the new irritating "woke" women.
VonderJohn
04-09-21, 18:45
I have never encountered any underage woman there. Most were in the 20's and several in their 30's. All were enthusiastic.
There is a new wave of woke feminists in Germany who cannot accept the fact that women too love sex, and a lot of women are happy to do a job they love for money. A lot more than one can earn in Amazon or in a call center.
There have been several demonstrations by sex workers asking that the brothels be reopened, and sex workers are also against the laws passed in 2017.
However, their voices are ignored by the new irritating "woke" women.Me neither. I could clearly tell if the female was underage. A lot of the females I shagged there were comfortably in their mid 20's even 30's. Maybe a few in their low 20's. But you would spot an underage teenager if you saw one. I never did, and I was active ever since Karl Max street's location. My suspicion is that mostapha used to bring these ladies into private parties or only for himself, to avoid any of his clients informing the police about underage sex workers.
In 2018, Efe was sentenced to three years in prison for promoting sexual acts with minors.
So I strongly doubt that Mustafa will rise again from the ashes.
Thanks for the head up. But what have I missed here?? How come this news be true that Mustafa was sentenced to three years in prison in 2018 if he is still running the EWH and still be seen regularly in EWH before and after 2018 until the COVID-19 pandemic hit the world.
I am aware that there are a few of Newspapers are recently reporting it. But this report is recent in the current year and not 2018.
Mustafa is not an idiot and vast majority of EWH GBs party visitors are not stupid either. Allowing underage girls in a GB party where all of the visitors could easily judge them, is a suicidal act as the visitors could easily reporting the practice anonymously to the authority. The business model will not be sustainable either. Remember that he has Venus private apartment services. It might be that the minor recruitment is for private clients. his friends or himself in those private apartments.
EWH has been in existence since 2011. If the minors took part publicly in the GB parties, you would have seen a lot of reports about this practice on ISGs since a long time ago.
Also like many other people have been saying, judging from the age the party girls are mostly around 25yo+, a few are around early 20. Some are even in their 30s which could be described as MILFs.
From this link I could easily notice that the one behind the glass wall covering the face with a newspaper is Mustafa.
https://www.rbb24.de/panorama/beitrag/2021/03/berlin-prozess-bordell-minderjaehrige-neukoelln.html
"Among other things, Mustafa E. set the prices and, according to the public prosecutor, "tested" the young women through sexual acts in many cases, even if a victim is said to have categorically refused. E. later admitted that himself"
Hey guys,
I really enjoyed EWH when I visited Berlin a few times. Unfortunate what happened here and the place is shut. Any idea if there are any similar setups in Berlin or perhaps some other city that you might recommend in Germany?
Hi Guys,
After a couple of disappointing days in Berlin trying to find that Erlebniswohnung type experience, I looked further field and attended one of the Ramontiek parties that operate regularly in the Netherlands and Belgium.
The party took place at the Erodance Sex Club just outside Ghent. First surprise was how kinky the club was compared to Erlebniswohnung. A maze of little rooms, glory holes, sex swings and so on. Second surprise was how friendly the club was. The first hour was drinks with the girls in the bar. Ramon, the organizer, works hard to create a friendly atmosphere, getting the conversations started and so on. And before the event starts he makes a little speech and introduces each girl.
So to the action. There were around 12 guys and 3 girls which is apparently on the small side for a Ramontiek event (the one in Rotterdam has over 150 attendees with lots more girls and also couples). The girls at Erodance were Veertje (19 year old statuesque Dutch / Australian girl), Meryem (A beautiful and effervescent Turkish girl) and Marie-Louise (A slim, blonde Dutch lady). The co-host on the day was a very attractive black lady in lingerie who got us worked up but then didn't participate. All three party girls were friendly, fun and clearly into gang bangs. You can see pictures here:
https://www.ramontiek.nl/nl/gymnastiek-30-maart-be/
Unlike, Erlebniswohnung, the action started with all three girls immediately after Ramon's speech and at least two of the girls were available throughout. Imagine three Erlebniswohnung rooms on the go all the time. So you need to pace yourself rather than this being done for you. I kept retuning to Veertje throughout as she was stunningly attractive but Meryem was the most fun and the best fuck.
Different to Erlebniswohnung but a great experience and lots of fucking.
BukkakeMan
09-04-22, 14:32
As I understand he was sentenced to 3 y10 m in 2021.
Was he detained before that, and if so is the time of detainment reduced from the time of imprisonment? Could he be released om parole?
For some reason I think this guy won't allow to be defeated.
What if he starts the whole thing up again! Would be so fantastic!
ItaStallion
09-09-22, 14:41
What if he starts the whole thing up again! Would be so fantastic!Anyone interested in setting up the local again from the scratch?
As I understand he was sentenced to 3 y10 m in 2021.
Was he detained before that, and if so is the time of detainment reduced from the time of imprisonment? Could he be released om parole?
For some reason I think this guy won't allow to be defeated.
What if he starts the whole thing up again! Would be so fantastic!
I believe Mustafa has adult children (or the like) I have seen two boys which resembles to him. I have seen them many times managing the party and the girls and Venus Apartment. Also a few times a girl managing the party which I also believe, she is his daughter. So I believe they are all Mustafa's Children; But I never ask so I am not 100% sure.
Also, normally, every Sunday there is a Tall German guy of 30+ (forgot his name) come helping him managing the party. This guy could actually take over from Mustafa if he wants.
I really wish someone will see this gap and size opportunity. Sofar, it is only Annie Porsche available and start heading south. AFAIK Insomnia is not organising the Thursday GB any longer.
VonderJohn
09-18-22, 22:10
I believe Mustafa has adult children (or the like) I have seen two boys which resembles to him. I have seen them many times managing the party and the girls and Venus Apartment. Also a few times a girl managing the party which I also believe, she is his daughter. So I believe they are all Mustafa's Children; But I never ask so I am not 100% sure.
Also, normally, every Sunday there is a Tall German guy of 30+ (forgot his name) come helping him managing the party. This guy could actually take over from Mustafa if he wants.
I really wish someone will see this gap and size opportunity. Sofar, it is only Annie Porsche available and start heading south. AFAIK Insomnia is not organising the Thursday GB any longer.Regarding Insomnia, although the Thursday GB is not being organized, the place seems to be organizing various types of parties throughout the week, which include international sex affairs on Tuesdays and Saturday night fucks and other swinger events that are mostly sex oriented. Has anyone tried Insomnia recently? What was the experience? And why do you say that Annie Prosche is heading south?
Regarding Insomnia, although the Thursday GB is not being organized, the place seems to be organizing various types of parties throughout the week, which include international sex affairs on Tuesdays and Saturday night fucks and other swinger events that are mostly sex oriented. Has anyone tried Insomnia recently? What was the experience? And why do you say that Annie Porsche is heading south?
Yes Saturday night fuck, and other sex parties are still there. But as I understand there is no more house girls. So unless you come with a partner or you are young, fits / good looking with athletics body you might be spending the whole night just watching people having fun. My last visit to Insomnia was before Covid lockdown, so not recent.
Regarding Annie Porsche, the place atmosphere is far from the one when you see in the old location in Gneisenaustrae, it is much smaller. I am sure you are aware that they were taking over the Kino around the corner very close to the old AP. Also there are only 4-5 girls in a party where it used to be 7-8 girls. Some girls just want to got to a particular guests. Bu to be fair to AP they have not increased their price. My favourite Jenny, tall German Blond in her 30's is still partying. From the receptionist I heard that she is not living in Berlin, so she does not come everyday. In EWH in Alt-Mariendorf there used to be a few good looking German girls FKKs quality girls partying, a few to name ; Lucy Geil, Austin, Becci, Maggie, Alexandra (American mixed race Girl) etc
When there ere still in Karl-Maxx starsse that is the best of EWH most girls are FKKs quality. They sometimes bring german pornstar like Melina Pure, Paula Rowe. Nit to mention Alex
I am hoping someone will see the gap and we will see the party like EWH will revive in Berlin.
VonderJohn
09-29-22, 21:34
Yes Saturday night fuck, and other sex parties are still there. But as I understand there is no more house girls. So unless you come with a partner or you are young, fits / good looking with athletics body you might be spending the whole night just watching people having fun. My last visit to Insomnia was before Covid lockdown, so not recent.
Regarding Annie Porsche, the place atmosphere is far from the one when you see in the old location in Gneisenaustrae, it is much smaller. I am sure you are aware that they were taking over the Kino around the corner very close to the old AP. Also there are only 4-5 girls in a party where it used to be 7-8 girls. Some girls just want to got to a particular guests. Bu to be fair to AP they have not increased their price. My favourite Jenny, tall German Blond in her 30's is still partying. From the receptionist I heard that she is not living in Berlin, so she does not come everyday. In EWH in Alt-Mariendorf there used to be a few good looking German girls FKKs quality girls partying, a few to name ; Lucy Geil, Austin, Becci, Maggie, Alexandra (American mixed race Girl) etc
When there ere still in Karl-Maxx starsse that is the best of EWH most girls are FKKs quality. They sometimes bring german pornstar like Melina Pure, Paula Rowe. Nit to mention Alex
I am hoping someone will see the gap and we will see the party like EWH will revive in Berlin.Well, this sounds very unwelcoming in Insomnia. Especially for someone like me who is single and doesn't speak German. I think I'll only go for Saturday Night fuck and International Sex Affairs (which rarely works. Its like a hit and miss). Why wouldn't house girls work anymore tho? Covid is over, inflation is sky high, and so an extra income is not a bad idea.
Would be nice if any of you have tried Annie Porsche or Insomnia and tell us about the experience in a report. Here or on the Insomnia forum.
Would be nice if any of you have tried Annie Porsche or Insomnia and tell us about the experience in a report. Here or on the Insomnia forum.Well I went to Annie Porsche in Summer 2022 and it was a miserable affair. Cramped little dirty basement club. 3-4 guys present at a time with two women alternating. Both women were pleasant enough but past 40 and well past their prime. An experience incomparable to the heyday of ERW and Insomnia. I didn't hang around for long.
Hoping something emerges in Berlin soon.
VonderJohn
11-18-24, 00:36
I know that Erlebniswohnung is no longer there. But what are the alterative gangbang clubs that can be good choices, similar to Erlebniswohnung? (besides Annie Porsche) in Berlin.
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