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Admin
02-22-12, 21:18
Greetings Everyone,

I have created a new forum for Cebu.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu

Thanks,

Jackson

Aussie Jo
02-23-12, 00:02
Jackson, This is a great development. Cebu is such a wonderful mongering city.

AJ

Frenzy3
02-23-12, 04:48
If you are coming here for less than a month head to the mango bars on your first night and do a bar hop they start 9 pm and you should start 9 pm, as the good bars fill up quick. Talk to the mamasan and tell her what type of girl you like (yes she will ask for a ladies drink). Some times they are still out the back or absent that night. Keep doing this until you find what you want. I take the first girl I find and take her to a few more bars. Buy the girl 1 or 2 ladies drink and ask her what she will do for you, I rather her tell me what she will do she is a pro , if she is too shy you should find another girl. they do not get better once you leave the bar . You really need to do a bar hop in Cebu. I also ask the girl what bar she wants to go to as there are always new bars or old ones changing. They seem to get the New and hot girls as news get out fast they are hiring. Barfines start at 1700 and then 4000 to arena at 8000

The malls can be a mine field as some girls are ex bar who fail higyne or are desperate for cash and are banned from bars due to other problems. There are also new girls there to make some money. You will see them in pairs often you need to watch to make sure they are working. If a lady boy approaches you say you only want girls, they may help you to find a girl they know working the malls, do not give them any money unless they help you this is only valid for lady boys as they will rob you blind. This advice also applies for the discos in mango square. Disco are a bit like the malls but after the bars close you can meet working girls who did not get ewr. But I would tell you to go there with a girl as they are hit and miss. For me the girl sence in Cebu requires time and effort. So never come here less than 2 days. Stay in Cebu and forget about pussy at the beaches. Unless you find a girl in the city to go with you stay in town. Mall and disco girls start from 500 the most I paid is 1000.

Down town is a better experience if you know some one living here to show you around even some the locals avoid downtown. But if you know some one it is worth a look.

When meeting a girl from a online dating site do not expect her on time or offer to pay her taxi, you will spend time just waiting and some times they will never turn up, or turn up when you are leaving to meet your next.

Do not lie to the girls here tell them what you are after, some will even introduce you to a friend that matches your need. Also know that people here live peso to peso so always offer taxi money 50-200 peso once they turn up, if they ask tell them to borrow the jeepney fare, when you meet them ask them what jeepney they took. There is a saying here "only rich foreigners and prostitutes take the taxi"

This is based on my 5 years of living here, I get new girls every month.

JPF
02-23-12, 05:05
After spending the evening with Frenzy last night (he is very knowledgeable about the local society and I highly recommend getting touch with him for his interesting perspective) I went to the Mango bars at around 11pm. There was no need to get there early (except that maybe some of the hotter women may have been taken). Most of the bars were pretty empty and I stuck my head into every one of them. I got a chuckle in one where there was one customer (with 2 women) who beckoned me to stay as he saw me walking out. I understand the feeling when you are the only customer in the place.

Red Kilt
02-23-12, 12:38
. EDIT. Also know that people here live peso to peso so always offer taxi money 50-200 peso once they turn up, if they ask tell them to borrow the jeepney fare, when you meet them ask them what jeepney they took. There is a saying here "only rich foreigners and prostitutes take the taxi"

This is based on my 5 years of living here, I get new girls every month.Very sensible post Frenzy, and advice that should be followed.

I have been visiting Cebu on sporadic intervals for 15 years now (I live in Manila) , and I have never lucked out in Cebu. I have used DIA, mall meetings, bars on Mango and nearby to Mango (eg old Silver Dollar and Lone Star) and if one fails the other comes through.

I have posted on several mall meetings here (over the past 2 years) and I agree with Frenzy that there are potential pitfalls but the last 2 encounters that I have had have turned out to be exceptional (both were bored horny housewives looking for a few hours of fun while hubby was at work or, in one case, overseas working).

I must admit I have never tried the discos at the top of Mango (for example, Julianas (name now changed) but I have been to Pump near Ayala and my wing man found a prize but I saw nothing that appealed so I moved on to a bar for the final stanza. I will be returning soon so I will post some updates on my favorite places.

X Man
02-23-12, 12:59
RK, where I come from in the Midwest of US of A,"luck out" means to be lucky. We even verb the noun as in "I lucked out". Oh, us funny Americans. It sounds like you are using it the opposite way. I've never heard "luck in", but I will try it if I ever make it back to the land of extraordinarily boring and unsual politics. X.


SNIP I have been visiting Cebu on sporadic intervals for 15 years now (I live in Manila) , and I have never lucked out in Cebu. I have used DIA, mall meetings, bars on Mango and nearby to Mango (eg old Silver Dollar and Lone Star) and if one fails the other comes through.

SNIP.

Riverman
02-23-12, 16:58
A girl I picked up before in the Mango area approached me as I was walking back to my room after dinner. My previous experience with her was great and I was certainly willing to have a session with her again, but tonight I was just too damn tired. I've had a recurring sinus infection and tonight it was draining all my energy. After kindly explaining why I couldn't see her tonite, she then goes 'ohh, Riverman, I'm hungy please just give me 50 pesos. ' It surprised me she did this, because last time she seemed like a pretty nice chick, and not a beggar type. I guess the street is burning her out.

I'm wondering what you guys think about this situation. Personally, I hate being hit up like that, for several reasons. 1) if I don't partake, I don't want to give anything 2) I don't want a strictly P4P provider to get accustomed to successfully hitting me up for free money 3) I don't like pulling out and handing over money on the street. 4) I frequent the mango / fuente area a lot, and don't want the denizens there to consider me a mark for begging, etc. 5) I just plain find it irritating.

After my polite refusal, she got rather nasty and we parted less than friends. I am curious to the thoughts of you guys on this subject. Any better way to deal with this situation? Anyone?

LexLuther
02-23-12, 21:50
A girl I picked up before in the Mango area approached me as I was walking back to my room after dinner. My previous experience with her was great and I was certainly willing to have a session with her again, but tonight I was just too damn tired. I've had a recurring sinus infection and tonight it was draining all my energy. After kindly explaining why I couldn't see her tonite, she then goes 'ohh, Riverman, I'm hungy please just give me 50 pesos. ' It surprised me she did this, because last time she seemed like a pretty nice chick, and not a beggar type. I guess the street is burning her out.

I'm wondering what you guys think about this situation. Personally, I hate being hit up like that, for several reasons. 1) if I don't partake, I don't want to give anything 2) I don't want a strictly P4P provider to get accustomed to successfully hitting me up for free money 3) I don't like pulling out and handing over money on the street. 4) I frequent the mango / fuente area a lot, and don't want the denizens there to consider me a mark for begging, etc. 5) I just plain find it irritating.

After my polite refusal, she got rather nasty and we parted less than friends. I am curious to the thoughts of you guys on this subject. Any better way to deal with this situation? Anyone?Your reaction and reasons are understandable. But at the same time. 50 pesos is not going to break you and it could make you feel as though you had done something nice for a girl with whom you had been close. Understandable that you don't want to be seen giving money on the street. You could take her into an eating establishment and pay them for her meal. Then, if you are not hungry or don't have time, just leave and tell her not to make a habit of it.

Maybe I'm a sucker, but I have a lot of sympathy for these people. They are, after all, poor and we are much more fortunate than they are. I know we can't be used as cash machines. But (especially if you know someone) , how much can it hurt you to help them to a meal? To me, you have to have a conscience and not just treat the place as your personal playground of prostitutes.

LexLuther

X Man
02-24-12, 01:16
Both sides here have some good points. Recently I gave a few hundred pesos to a girl I knew only vaugely."to buy chicken".

A few days later she came over and was quite generous in her own dirty little way. Bless her heart.

On the other hand you don't want to be pulling out your wallet on that stretch of Mango. And that's probably what you would have to do. I don't know about the rest of you, but my change is left with the waitresses. I'm not going to have 50peso in coin in my pocket. THe gal was probably counting on the fact that you would have only 100 peso bills. Furthermore, the fact that she got nasty is a good indication that she's bad news.

Speaking of street girls, I picked up a real cutie on Mango back in January. Back in the room she tells me to lay the money on the table. At first I was confused, but she says that's the street girl custom. Hmmm, first there is an indication that she doesn't trust me, second she's giving me orders and if I obey she'll think she's in charge, and third, if I put money down she knows where my wallet is. I threw here out. X.


Your reaction and reasons are understandable. But at the same time. 50 pesos is not going to break you

SNIP.

LexLuther

Red Kilt
02-24-12, 03:58
RK, where I come from in the Midwest of US of A,"luck out" means to be lucky. We even verb the noun as in "I lucked out". Oh, us funny Americans. It sounds like you are using it the opposite way. I've never heard "luck in", but I will try it if I ever make it back to the land of extraordinarily boring and unsual politics. X.That's funny X. I have never heard it used in the way you use it. Logically, our way makes more sense, as in 'lucked out" means out luck was out.

Another interesting phrase us Aussies use is "I couldn't care less" when we are talking about "not giving a shit". It seems to me that many guys (I bet they are our Yank brothers again) who say "I could care less". They are supposed to mean the same but they are different.

Red Kilt
02-24-12, 05:52
A girl I picked up before in the Mango area approached me as I was walking back to my room after dinner. My previous experience with her was great and I was certainly willing to have a session with her again, but tonight I was just too damn tired. she then goes 'ohh, Riverman, I'm hungy please just give me 50 pesos. ' It surprised me she did this, because last time she seemed like a pretty nice chick, and not a beggar type. I guess the street is burning her out.I am really surprised by your reaction, especially as she is someone you know and with whom you had a great experience already.

"Good girl gone bad"? WTF? All she did was ask you for 50 pesos for food? Does that make her "bad"? You had a gross over reaction River. You made an enemy out of a "good" Mango street girl because she asked you for 50 pesos. If she was an unknown beggar then maybe I could understand you dismissing her but you said you already know her and like her.

I don't think I would enjoy having a beer with you if you get so wound up over such a trivial thing. The sky would not fall on you if you had given her 50 php, but it just might fall on you now late one night because you didn't, and when you are least expecting it.

Starchild2012
02-24-12, 12:35
Oops. What happened to Cebu Forum categories that we had yesterday like Cebu Hotels, Cebu restaurants, General info etc. I was pretty doped yesterday and set out a time today to read all info due to my arrival in Cebu and bummer, Now I only see Cebu Forum thread no sub categories or is it just me and my browser acting up? Thanks

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Never mind...FYI..The Cebu Forum link from The Philippines thread won't bring you to the main page of Cebu Forum...For that you have to go to

The Main Page >> Asia >> The Philippines - Cebu

I think there is a link issue there....I had bookmarked the Philippines page and opened it ...so couldn't see the sub categories of Cebu Forum..thanks

Stroker Ace88
02-24-12, 14:48
Jackson,

Thanks for creating a new sub-forum for Cebu, much appreciated!

Can I make a few small suggestions. Can you transfer the recent posts on this newly created 'Cebu Forum' link and paste them in the 'Cebu General Information' thread and lock this thread? After this thread progresses a few pages your original post which contains the link to the Cebu section will become buried.

The original thread has 6200+ posts and this new thread assumes the same function as the older one thus creating two threads about the same topic. Some guys are already confused and this would just streamline and keep all the general topic posts together on one thread.

Can you transfer posts (#345 through #355) on the 'Cebu Hotels' thread and paste them in the newly created 'Buying-Owning-Renting Property in Cebu' section as the topic deals with condo ownership.

I know you are busy sorry for the disturbance. I tried to PM you my thoughts but your inbox is full.

Thanks once again.

X Man
02-24-12, 16:47
Speaking of "gross over reaction", see'mon RK. You're almost threatening the guy!

He was feeling ill, the gal was a street girl making an unexpected and unusual request (in a dodgy area) , and she got rude when she didn't get the money. We weren't there and we don't know the whole story. In the end, it's his 50 pesos, his time, his security, his holiday.

My advice to anyone is to follow your gut feelings. If you are in the third world and you start to get bad vibes, try to move on or away from whatever caused those vibes. If you feel guilty the next day about the 50 pesos, contact RK. I'm sure he can provide a list of charities.

X


I am really surprised by your reaction, especially as she is someone you know and with whom you had a great experience already.

"Good girl gone bad"? WTF? All she did was ask you for 50 pesos for food? Does that make her "bad"? You had a gross over reaction River. You made an enemy out of a "good" Mango street girl because she asked you for 50 pesos. If she was an unknown beggar then maybe I could understand you dismissing her but you said you already know her and like her.

I don't think I would enjoy having a beer with you if you get so wound up over such a trivial thing. The sky would not fall on you if you had given her 50 php, but it just might fall on you now late one night because you didn't, and when you are least expecting it.

Chocha Monger
02-25-12, 04:09
I am really surprised by your reaction, especially as she is someone you know and with whom you had a great experience already.

"Good girl gone bad"? WTF? All she did was ask you for 50 pesos for food? Does that make her "bad"? You had a gross over reaction River. You made an enemy out of a "good" Mango street girl because she asked you for 50 pesos. If she was an unknown beggar then maybe I could understand you dismissing her but you said you already know her and like her.

I don't think I would enjoy having a beer with you if you get so wound up over such a trivial thing. The sky would not fall on you if you had given her 50 php, but it just might fall on you now late one night because you didn't, and when you are least expecting it.Red Kilt,

Some mongers have a strict don't feed the street meat policy. Perhaps they think hungry girls are more eager to fuck for pesos and will maintain that much sought after spinner figure. Others consider giving the girls pesos for anything other than a fuck to be the equivalent of feeding strays and worry about being mobbed by other aggressive beggars or making the girls lazy. The sad reality is the girls sell puss out of desperation and a lot of mongers intend to keep them as desperate as possible to exert maximum leverage.

Red Kilt
02-25-12, 05:54
Red Kilt,

Some mongers have a strict don't feed the street meat policy. Perhaps they think hungry girls are more eager to fuck for pesos and will maintain that much sought after spinner figure. Others consider giving the girls pesos for anything other than a fuck to be the equivalent of feeding strays and worry about being mobbed by other aggressive beggars or making the girls lazy. The sad reality is the girls sell puss out of desperation and a lot of mongers intend to keep them as desperate as possible to exert maximum leverage.Bit of over-reaction to my post about over reaction.

Just to be clear. I NEVER hand out money to beggars of any sort on the street either, but in Riverman's case, this was not just an unknown beggar but a woman he had already befriended before and with whom, in his words,"had a GREAT time".

I was surprised that he would not give her the 50 pesos. That's all. Surprised. The reasons he gave for not giving the 50 pesos were, IMHO, an extreme over reaction, as I simply cannot see or imagine the likelihood that a mere 50 pesos given to an acquaintance would upset the economic indicators of the street monger trade

He also made an enemy out of her. That would worry me the next time I wander along the same strip.

Makeupaname
02-25-12, 06:33
I would of not handed her money on the street, but a girl that I had a "great time" with, would not be going hungry. I would have taken her to the nearest place and feed her. A 50-100 peso meal could easily turn into a freebie with an even greater time.

Frenzy3
02-25-12, 10:14
A girl I picked up before in the Mango area approached me as I was walking back to my room after dinner. My previous experience with her was great and I was certainly willing to have a session with her again, but tonight I was just too damn tired. I've had a recurring sinus infection and tonight it was draining all my energy. After kindly explaining why I couldn't see her tonite, she then goes 'ohh, Riverman, I'm hungy please just give me 50 pesos. ' It surprised me she did this, because last time she seemed like a pretty nice chick, and not a beggar type. I guess the street is burning her out.

I'm wondering what you guys think about this situation. Personally, I hate being hit up like that, for several reasons. 1) if I don't partake, I don't want to give anything 2) I don't want a strictly P4P provider to get accustomed to successfully hitting me up for free money 3) I don't like pulling out and handing over money on the street. 4) I frequent the mango / fuente area a lot, and don't want the denizens there to consider me a mark for begging, etc. 5) I just plain find it irritating.

After my polite refusal, she got rather nasty and we parted less than friends. I am curious to the thoughts of you guys on this subject. Any better way to deal with this situation? Anyone?It only 50 peso that is a jeepney ride to meet another client, load to text another client or a meal, so saying no you have got what you deserve, bad Karma. She will tell every girl she knows how cheep you are so next time you get a girl you like and she says no think about your action that day. Drugs cost 200 peso or more, glue is less but there are few working girls doing glue, most people live from peso to peso and will borrow money so they can make money.

Next time you are in cebu catch up I show you how the locals live and how the girls who work mango live.

Screaming Beaver
02-25-12, 11:04
Bit of over-reaction to my post about over reaction.

Just to be clear. I NEVER hand out money to beggars of any sort on the street either, but in Riverman's case, this was not just an unknown beggar but a woman he had already befriended before and with whom, in his words,"had a GREAT time".

I was surprised that he would not give her the 50 pesos. That's all. Surprised. The reasons he gave for not giving the 50 pesos were, IMHO, an extreme over reaction, as I simply cannot see or imagine the likelihood that a mere 50 pesos given to an acquaintance would upset the economic indicators of the street monger trade.

He also made an enemy out of her. That would worry me the next time I wander along the same strip.I believe CM is just pointing out what most here don't want to read. The fact is the Value Monger is a tough breed who has never contributed to the United Way or Red Cross. Therefore, why would anyone expect the cheap bastard to give a poor girl 50 pesos when he saw her in public the next day. Actually she should consider herself lucky if she got out of his room the night before without taking one in the butt or receiving a face full on hot [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) to the mug.

WestCoast1
02-25-12, 15:28
Actually she should consider herself lucky if she got out of his room the night before without taking one in the butt or receiving a face full on hot [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) to the mug.Ya. Giving a gal one in the butt or a hot [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) to the mug is my job. Thanks.

X Man
02-25-12, 15:53
I guess it has to be repeated a third time. The guy said he was not feeling well. Apparently he told the girl that. Which was the only real mistake I can see in this story. Show a bit of weakness and the dingos will take a nip.

And when I say dingo. I would like some of you to think about who exactly I'm talking about.


I would of not handed her money on the street, but a girl that I had a "great time" with, would not be going hungry. I would have taken her to the nearest place and feed her. A 50-100 peso meal could easily turn into a freebie with an even greater time.

X Man
02-25-12, 16:11
Please tell us what charities you donate to, and what would be something good to bring or leave. I regularly leave clothing as a kind of extra tip to the maids since I do some shopping and don't want to be over my weight limit on the next flight. I'd prefer to find a reliable group so that I can be sure my donation is being used efficiently.

I have met H the H in AC since he has some charity connections. Good guy. At the moment there is the BEACON group organizing a run in March in AC. They look like a reliable group, but not exactly sure.

But frankly, I don't know of a reliable group in Cebu. Surely, The Frenzy, is a man who can show us where to point our generosity. X.


It only 50 peso that is a jeepney ride to meet another client, load to text another client or a meal, so saying no you have got what you deserve, bad Karma. She will tell every girl she knows how cheep you are so next time you get a girl you like and she says no think about your action that day. Drugs cost 200 peso or more, glue is less but there are few working girls doing glue, most people live from peso to peso and will borrow money so they can make money.

Next time you are in cebu catch up I show you how the locals live and how the girls who work mango live.

Chocha Monger
02-25-12, 16:26
I believe CM is just pointing out what most here don't want to read. The fact is the Value Monger is a tough breed who has never contributed to the United Way or Red Cross. Therefore, why would anyone expect the cheap bastard to give a poor girl 50 pesos when he saw her in public the next day. Actually she should consider herself lucky if she got out of his room the night before without taking one in the butt or receiving a face full on hot [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) to the mug.Screaming Beaver, the Value Monger is indeed a very robust breed. When this breed hears a girl say, 'please, I'm very hungry' it triggers aggressive bargaining for deeply discounted hardcore services at best. In cases where the monger is unable to perform at the time of the request, due to a street Viagra and alcohol induced hangover, such pleading is met with a righteous sense of indignation that a girl would have the nerve to beg for a single peso that she didn't earn by getting all her holes filled. These gentlemen are frugal with sympathy and exceedingly charitable with their bodily fluids.

WestCoast1
02-25-12, 17:00
Screaming Beaver, the Value Monger is indeed a very robust breed. When this breed hears a girl say, 'please, I'm very hungry' it triggers aggressive bargaining for deeply discounted hardcore services at best. In cases where the monger is unable to perform at the time of the request, due to a street Viagra and alcohol induced hangover, such pleading is met with a righteous sense of indignation that a girl would have the nerve to beg for a single peso that she didn't earn by getting all her holes filled. These gentlemen are frugal with sympathy and exceedingly charitable with their bodily fluids.I'm not sure if you're mocking the Value Monger, or agreeing with him, but the RM's situation is not uncommon, and difficult to deal with. I'm not sure there is ANY good outcome from the situation. Asking for money is in bad taste from the western viewpoint, but not from the SE asian viewpoint. Anytime this happens, it will feel natural for the pinay, and create an uncomfortable dissonance from most men. Obviously there are differing viewpoints on the situation. Some gents have posted here that they feel for RM's discomfort (that also includes me) , while others have said he should just have given it to her (as its small). You can see several viewpoints:

A. You don't want to give her anything. Her asking for it makes you feel uncomfortable, period.

B. You want to give her the money, but you know better than to be seen doing it right then on the street.

C. You just hand it to her.

I don't think there is any one good solution or way of handling the above situation that would not draw fire from the dingos? Personally, whether sick or not, I would not have given her the money right then. You either have to take her to a private place and hand her the pesos, or take her somewhere to eat, or tell her to come to your hotel the next day for 200 (or so) and then make good on it. But handing anyone money in public in cebu (even your wife) makes you a target for every beggar on the street, and emboldens that girl to ask (inappropriately) again. This is not a matter of being cheap (value mongering) , its a matter of being smart.

Gaijin Gigolo
02-25-12, 17:24
I am really surprised by your reaction, especially as she is someone you know and with whom you had a great experience already.

"Good girl gone bad"? WTF? All she did was ask you for 50 pesos for food? Does that make her "bad"? You had a gross over reaction River. You made an enemy out of a "good" Mango street girl because she asked you for 50 pesos. If she was an unknown beggar then maybe I could understand you dismissing her but you said you already know her and like her.

I don't think I would enjoy having a beer with you if you get so wound up over such a trivial thing. The sky would not fall on you if you had given her 50 php, but it just might fall on you now late one night because you didn't, and when you are least expecting it.Totally agree with you RK. This guy has made an enemy out of someone he had a great time with (and consequently everybody she knows) over a measly 50 pesos. What a cheap, pathetic bastard. And you're right...he's a marked man now and it wouldn't surprise me to hear it if he gets whacked the next time he lets his guard down in that neighborhood.

Mr Enternational
02-25-12, 18:19
Well since this thing is heading the way of "what is paying too much" I will add my 2 pesos. Was Riverman in Cebu to make friends? Did he go there to save the world? Is said girl a friend because he hired her services once and enjoyed them? (What if the session had been terrible?) She turned from friend to enemy because he would not give away money to her outside of a business relationship? If that is the case then I have made countless enemies on this planet; and by that same token made many friends that I was not aware of. Do you really think someone would attack or kill him because he didn't give away 50 pesos - not like he owed them anything? (Should have just robbed him that day instead.) If that was the case then I'm sure there would be kano bodies on every corner. She had just met Riverman and all of a sudden he is supposed to be her saving grace? What about the family, friends that she has known all of her life? What if she never ran into Riverman that day or the day he sessioned with her? If she hadn't starved to death in all of the 20 or how many years that she has been living then I'm sure she wouldn't die because of the 50 pesos that Riverman didn't give her. You say it was "only" 50 pesos, well what would be too much to give away? Why not just hand over 500 pesos, or 5000 for good measure? Even if he was in tip-top health he should have told her no with authority.

Put the shoe on the other foot. Say Riverman was really horny and didn't have any money. But he didn't want full service, he just needed a little blow job to get him by. Do you think she would have or should have obliged? After all he has sessioned with her once before and they are supposedly "friends." Last I heard it was "No Money, No Honey". There is no reason that should not be able to be inverted as well. You guys are so pathetic that it is funny. Grow some balls and stop being cream puffs and pushovers.


Totally agree with you RK. This guy has made an enemy out of someone he had a great time with (and consequently everybody she knows) over a measly 50 pesos. What a cheap, pathetic bastard. And you're right.he's a marked man now and it wouldn't surprise me to hear it if he gets whacked the next time he lets his guard down in that neighborhood.

Socker
02-25-12, 20:13
Well since this thing is heading the way of "what is paying too much" I will add my 2 pesos. Was Riverman in Cebu to make friends? Did he go there to save the world? Is said girl a friend because he hired her services once and enjoyed them? (What if the session had been terrible?) She turned from friend to enemy because he would not give away money to her outside of a business relationship? If that is the case then I have made countless enemies on this planet; and by that same token made many friends that I was not aware of. Do you really think someone would attack or kill him because he didn't give away 50 pesos. Not like he owed them anything? (Should have just robbed him that day instead.) If that was the case then I'm sure there would be kano bodies on every corner. She had just met Riverman and all of a sudden he is supposed to be her saving grace? What about the family, friends that she has known all of her life? What if she never ran into Riverman that day or the day he sessioned with her? If she hadn't starved to death in all of the 20 or how many years that she has been living then I'm sure she wouldn't die because of the 50 pesos that Riverman didn't give her. You say it was "only" 50 pesos, well what would be too much to give away? Why not just hand over 500 pesos, or 5000 for good measure? Even if he was in tip-top health he should have told her no with authority.

Put the shoe on the other foot. Say Riverman was really horny and didn't have any money. But he didn't want full service, he just needed a little blow job to get him by. Do you think she would have or should have obliged? After all he has sessioned with her once before and they are supposedly "friends." Last I heard it was "No Money, No Honey". There is no reason that should not be able to be inverted as well. You guys are so pathetic that it is funny. Grow some balls and stop being cream puffs and pushovers.Equating hunger for food and a need for a blow job shows your bias. You are a tight wad monger along w / many others. That's the way it is and will never change. I would not give out money on the street to a stranger, but a hooker I had a good intimate session w / I would have. It just has to be done discreetly. I think the OP of this issue made a mistake but he is here now asking what he might have done differently which I admire. We mongers are all different, some want to help others and some don't, that will never change. I respect everyone but the tad wads do benefit from the generosity of the more giving monger. Now if the Tight Wads had a stamp on their forehead (T. W.) they would be avoided by most people but w / out the stamp they blend in w / everyone. HaHa.

I'm w / this guy's opinion.

Maybe I'm a sucker, but I have a lot of sympathy for these people. They are, after all, poor and we are much more fortunate than they are. I know we can't be used as cash machines. But (especially if you know someone) , how much can it hurt you to help them to a meal? To me, you have to have a conscience and not just treat the place as your personal playground of prostitutes.

Run Mann
02-25-12, 22:16
I would of not handed her money on the street, but a girl that I had a "great time" with, would not be going hungry. I would have taken her to the nearest place and feed her. A 50-100 peso meal could easily turn into a freebie with an even greater time.Or it could turn into an additional request for more money. You can do what you want with your money, the same way the other poster did or didn't do with his money. Trying to get everyone on sex board or anywhere else to have monolithic values will never happen.

SergeantRay
02-26-12, 03:40
With regard to the girl who has provided good service and asked for 50 pesos later on the street.

1) The request does not necessarily maker her bad, a scammer, or a beggar. This is the way of the Philippines.

2) The key for me is someone who has come through and delivered.

Years ago I picked up a girl on Mango, paid the mamasan in advance, and she tried to get away without performing. At that moment I wouldn't give her anything, not even a Skyflake. I saw her years later standing across from Gaisano Metro, where all of the dreg hookers hang out. No doubt she'd forgotten me. She was a gorgeous girl who could be making real money, but even years later, she could bleed to death on the street in front of me and I will step over her.

On the other hand, for a girl who has delivered, what's the harm in giving her 50 pesos? You'd buy a friend a beer. It's a buck to you.you can afford it. Once again, I'm not talking about tossing handfuls of 50 peso notes into the streets, you are rewarding for performance, and in the expectation of future performance.

3) Giving the 50 pesos doesn't make you soft or naive. If a pattern starts to develop of her bumming for change, you make it clear that she needs to hold up her end of the bargain. If you establish yourself as someone who provides (and at a cheap price to you) you may find yourself receiving text messages offering for her to come by and service you. That's just the sort of annoying, intrusive text I like to get.

4) One poster mentioned you not having change. Always have change! ? You've got to fight for change and hoard your coins. I keep my change separate from my large bills. So if I want to hand out 50 pesos, I don't have to haul out a wad of 5, 000 pesos in downtown Colon and dig through them all, only to discovewr I don't have anything smaller than a 500.

Red Kilt
02-26-12, 10:58
I totally missed the fact that Cebu MidTown (above Robinson's at Fuente Osmena) is now called Summit Circle Hotel.

I used to always stay there before (from 1997 until 2008) but when it became a bit jaded and old and, more importantly, they jacked up the prices, I went elsewhere..

It looks as though it has been renovated (from a website I just saw) and the price is now around 16, 000 php for 7 nights (double) that seems very good to me (I work on the basis that anything under or up to 3000 per night is OK for me).

Any updated reviews on this place please?

FurryFriend
02-26-12, 11:59
But he didn't want full service, he just needed a little blow job to get him by. Do you think she would have or should have obliged? After all he has sessioned with her once before and they are supposedly "friends." Last I heard it was "No Money, No Honey". There is no reason that should not be able to be inverted as well. You guys are so pathetic that it is funny. Grow some balls and stop being cream puffs and pushovers.Riverman omitted one important detail. And that is, if he desired to do her again.

If NO, then it's no big deal if he refused to give P50 (even though I would have given if she was a really good provider).

If YES, it's extremely stupid to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) someone away. Granted, there are girls everywhere in Cebu. But it's still hard to find excellent providers who have both the looks and personality.

Gaijin Gigolo
02-26-12, 14:23
Well since this thing is heading the way of "what is paying too much" I will add my 2 pesos. Was Riverman in Cebu to make friends? Did he go there to save the world? Is said girl a friend because he hired her services once and enjoyed them? (What if the session had been terrible?) She turned from friend to enemy because he would not give away money to her outside of a business relationship? If that is the case then I have made countless enemies on this planet; and by that same token made many friends that I was not aware of. Do you really think someone would attack or kill him because he didn't give away 50 pesos. Not like he owed them anything? (Should have just robbed him that day instead.) If that was the case then I'm sure there would be kano bodies on every corner. She had just met Riverman and all of a sudden he is supposed to be her saving grace? What about the family, friends that she has known all of her life? What if she never ran into Riverman that day or the day he sessioned with her? If she hadn't starved to death in all of the 20 or how many years that she has been living then I'm sure she wouldn't die because of the 50 pesos that Riverman didn't give her. You say it was "only" 50 pesos, well what would be too much to give away? Why not just hand over 500 pesos, or 5000 for good measure? Even if he was in tip-top health he should have told her no with authority.

Put the shoe on the other foot. Say Riverman was really horny and didn't have any money. But he didn't want full service, he just needed a little blow job to get him by. Do you think she would have or should have obliged? After all he has sessioned with her once before and they are supposedly "friends." Last I heard it was "No Money, No Honey". There is no reason that should not be able to be inverted as well. You guys are so pathetic that it is funny. Grow some balls and stop being cream puffs and pushovers.Another asshole, I see.

Gaijin Gigolo
02-26-12, 14:27
Maybe I'm a sucker, but I have a lot of sympathy for these people. They are, after all, poor and we are much more fortunate than they are. I know we can't be used as cash machines. But (especially if you know someone) , how much can it hurt you to help them to a meal? To me, you have to have a conscience and not just treat the place as your personal playground of prostitutes.Totally agree, well stated. It doesn't surprise me at all that some of these assholes get whacked, even murdered, given they way they mistreat people, often over nothing.

Frenchmen
02-26-12, 16:13
50 peso=1. 17 USD.

I pitty the person who can't spare that amount to feed a hungry mouth, regardless who and in what circumstances.

I guess is not enough to be born in order to qualify for the title of human being, some living among us would need to take a class and pass an exam before they can be called human beings.

No wonder this world is going downhill, It looks like the quantity of humanity stays the same is just the population no. That is growing.

WestCoast1
02-26-12, 17:04
Another asshole, I see.Going to (respectfully) disagree. Each gent will do whatever he feels is correct.

Few months ago, in broad daylight, I was walking along with a realtor (he was showing me a condo) , and his lady assistant (wow!). He was dressed nicely in shirt / tie, and she had a sharp business outfit. It was hot outside, and he asked if I wanted something to drink. Yes, I told him some ice tea or juice. He told the lady to get some drinks. We had just passed some street vendors and I assumed she would head back there and get some bottled juice. She looked in her purse and then asked him for some money. Probably 3 bottled drinks from the street vendor would be p50-60, small change. He pulled some coins from his pocket and they counted. In my wallet was several thousand pesos. In my right-front pants pocket were coins and several p20 notes, and my hand was in my pocket on the money.

STOP. It would be very easy to pull out the p20's or coins and offer them up. They are nice people. P60 is nothing to me (and probably small to the well-dressed realtor). It would be a pleasure to buy us all a cold drink on a hot day (we tend to act from the heart, not the head). DON'T do that. I almost pulled the money from my pocket, but I stopped. Let them pay for it (I've been accosted on the street before when showing money, even for just buying a bottle of water).

You think that is being kuripot? I promise, its not. I can think of only one reason to hand them (or to hand Riverman's former date) : to be nice. But you and I can think of multiple reasons why its not a good idea to pull money from your pocket on the streets in Cebu. The foremost reason is that the locals will see it. If you are soon hit by beggars or pickpockets, you only have yourself to blame. Its more important that nobody see you handling cash than being nice. Handle cash in a private place. If you must do it in public, do it for business transactions, not personal transactions with locals. If a Filipino friend walks up to you in a mall with a p500 note and asks if you can make change, either 1) don't do it, or 2) step into a private place and do it. There is NOTHING that can't wait until tomorrow for this person, such as meeting me then in my hotel to make the change. Filipinos are used to waiting for hours, days, weeks, months, for most everything (look how long they keep YOU waiting!). It is more important for my former date (well, Riverman's) to go hungry and see me tomorrow or in a private place, than it is for me to hand her money on the street. I'm glad to give Riverman's girl more than the requested p50, but ONLY if it can be done in private.

Thoughts?

Stroker Ace88
02-26-12, 17:09
I totally missed the fact that Cebu MidTown (above Robinson's at Fuente Osmena) is now called Summit Circle Hotel.

I used to always stay there before (from 1997 until 2008) but when it became a bit jaded and old and, more importantly, they jacked up the prices, I went elsewhere.

It looks as though it has been renovated (from a website I just saw) and the price is now around 16, 000 php for 7 nights (double) that seems very good to me (I work on the basis that anything under or up to 3000 per night is OK for me).

Any updated reviews on this place please?RK,

Yes Midtown Hotel has been re-named Summit Circle. I posted about it on the Cebu General Info thread back in November 2011. Link Below.

They have been painting the exterior of the building a greyish-brown kind of color but as typically happens in the Philippines they ran out of paint, time or money (or all three) and if you look up at the Summit Circle sign overlooking Fuente and Robinsons Cybergate you will see the ugly as heck half-finished paint job. Also the entrance to the central parking lot located on Jones next to the lechon resto and the fruit stand below Fuente still has the old "Midtown Hotel Parking" sign. Kind of funny but again typical.

I will PM you some of my thoughts.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information&p=1215137#post1215137

Sxxxx
02-26-12, 18:32
50 peso=1. 17 USD.

I pitty the person who can't spare that amount to feed a hungry mouth, regardless who and in what circumstances.

I guess is not enough to be born in order to qualify for the title of human being, some living among us would need to take a class and pass an exam before they can be called human beings.

No wonder this world is going downhill.Yes, the girls are human beings first and foremost.

The ones who argue that we are soft if we give them money for anything other than sex are mean spirited types, and they get out of life what they deserve. I am not advocating regular freebie hand outs, but selective help for our fellow humans in genuine need, is basic, you would think. Not so, under any circumstances for the mean spirited ones. Their choice, their life. Karma does exist, but doubt those guys ever experience it. The girls are human beings, first and foremost.

Mackin
02-26-12, 18:59
After reading all the opinions I can truly say there are both sides to the coin. But, my god it is only about $1. 15 USA I don't normally hand out money to those asking for it but when it is someone you have known before and that situation has been to your approval, christ, give it to her.

Now if I was hungry and ask someone I knew for a dollar and they said no, I think I would be rather pised also. Now just is this my opinion, if you can afford to live in another country and pay for pussy, there is no reason you shouldn't be able to give 50 P. Maybe I am wrong to some of you but I have always found it better and you are able to get more good if you use honey and not vinegar.

Mackin
02-26-12, 19:00
After reading all the opinions I can truly say there are both sides to the coin. But, my god it is only about $1. 15 USA. I don't normally hand out money to those asking for it but when it is someone you have known before and that situation has been to your approval, christ, give it to her.

Now if I was hungry and ask someone I knew for a dollar and they said no, I think I would be rather pised also. Now just is this my opinion, if you can afford to live in another country and pay for pussy, there is no reason you shouldn't be able to give 50 P. Maybe I am wrong to some of you but I have always found it better and you are able to get more good if you use honey and not vinegar.

Buko Max
02-26-12, 23:40
Please tell us what charities you donate to, and what would be something good to bring or leave. I regularly leave clothing as a kind of extra tip to the maids since I do some shopping and don't want to be over my weight limit on the next flight. I'd prefer to find a reliable group so that I can be sure my donation is being used efficiently.There are numerous organizations in Cebu that work with homeless kids and orphans. If you or any other board members want to donate to a good cause next time you are in town, PM me and I can give you all the info.


Equating hunger for food and a need for a blow job shows your bias. You are a tight wad monger along w / many others.It will be interesting to see how he fairs in Cebu next week but judging from his opinion probably not very well.

X Man
02-27-12, 04:41
Some of you guys just keep repeating the same thing. It's only a dollar. Poor girl was hungry.

Give me a big fkn break. She wasn't hungry, she wanted money. I bet she pulls the same stunt with every guy she recognizes as having been a former customer. Considering how gullible some of your are, she probably does fairly well without even turning a trick.

Riverman has been insulted, threatened, called names, vilified, de-karmanized, etc, and of course now the world is going downhill!

Poor guy wasn't feeling well and just wanted to go back to his room. I personally would have said Hi to the girl and kept walking. She wouldn't have had time to ask me for money. X.


50 peso=1. 17 USD.

I pitty the person who can't spare that amount to feed a hungry mouth, regardless who and in what circumstances.

I guess is not enough to be born in order to qualify for the title of human being, some living among us would need to take a class and pass an exam before they can be called human beings.

No wonder this world is going downhill, It looks like the quantity of humanity stays the same is just the population no. That is growing.

FurryFriend
02-27-12, 06:43
After reading all the opinions I can truly say there are both sides to the coin. But, my god it is only about $1. 15 USA. I don't normally hand out money to those asking for it but when it is someone you have known before and that situation has been to your approval, christ, give it to her.I think what's missing from this discussion is the fact that this girl isn't just some random stranger asking for money. She provided a good service. And while the monger has no obligation to give, he should do so to retain her services or merely out of compassion.

I think we all agree that if it were some random girl, it's imperative not to give. No matter how humanitarian you feel, you're actually doing these people a disservice because it encourages them to beg and not to be a productive, earning member of society. If you want to help, you should give to recognized charities.

Afaire
02-27-12, 10:37
This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.

I'm 30 years old, an everage looking guy. My purpose was meeting regular girls or semi-professional girls. I was really inspired by many posts saying how it's easy to do this in cebu. Well, at least for me it turned out to be slightly complicated.

In overall I managed to get a girl around every 4-5 days.

I started with dateinasia. In the beginning it was really promising, I got 3 girls in 3 days, but after this it became a hell. Why? Because only 10 girls from 100 answered my messages and only 2-3 from this 10 gave me the phone number. Then, many of girls just have never replied to my sms. Those who managed to come for a date were not ready for a quick love story. So after spending a week on internet I concluded that it's too time consuming and switched to other opportunities.

Juliana was a sure option for 2-3 times. 500p for taxi. But not sleeping every night is not an option for me, next day walking like a zombi that's too tiring. I quickly understood that on a long term basis I have to switch to a daytime activity.

That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much sucsessful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.

Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.

At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.

What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.

I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.

So my conclusion now, if you're looking for freebie girls maybe you should consider a different destination. Philippines are mostly for bar girls, other girls are too much conservative. At least I could not find same ambience I've found in Cuba for example where flirting is just a part of life.

But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.

So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?

Frenchmen
02-27-12, 11:36
@Westcoast1.

My thoughts on your opinion about never showing money on the streets are that is a bit paranoid to do that, what if you are thirsty or hungry yourself, you will just pass on eatin or drinking because you are afraid to be robbed?

I think is not wise to show a big stack of thousands everytime but otherwise just do your thing.

And in regards to the hungry girl if that scared of being mobbed, just take her to the nearest food vendor or even better cover the money in your palm and give it to her very discrete.

Come on, Cebu is far from places like Congo or Rwanda. And even there. I mean you had the courage to come here in the first place instead of some golden cages where the usual westerner tourist goes and now you chicken out for 50 pesos?

Hart David
02-27-12, 12:03
Been there and seen that. I was in Cebu last August and I cannot resist writing this. Me and my pinay GF who is a professional in cebu, walked all over the place including colon area during day time. We bought food from the street, bananas and mangos as well as lot of friend junk which I will try in few weeks. I ventured to mango park area by myself in odd hours. Of course there are plenty of beggars around I never had a problem giving few pesos to them as I carried my small in pocket while I left most to f the big ones at my place or when I am with my GF with her. I always paid and even in public it was not a problem. Of course I did not flash out my money in dark streets. I never felt unsafe in cebu, in that matter I felt my unsafe when I was in NYC and my hometown in Colombo. Therefore I disagree with some punters that there are robbers awaiting to grab your pesos at every nook and corner in Cebu. I might me wrong, as my stay was only few days. However, I agree that I will not give anyone with out getting a service money. Same thing happened to me, a lass how visited my hotel, gave me a good service and she called few days later and wanted to do another session for much less. I was with my girl and cannot let her go. I just pretended that I am going to internet cafe and gave this lass 100 pesos and send her away telling the truth that I am with my GF, for which she agreed and obliged. I never saw her again however. Cheers.

David alias colomba

X Man
02-27-12, 13:08
Mattrick, I recommend you post any charity info right here on the thread where it will do the most good. If you prefer, please send it to my pm.

Here where I live (some of you know where that is) I'm involved in a group that does environmental restoration and also raises money for various things, mostly environmental, but also helping disadvantaged children. At the moment one in Africa and one in SE Asia and also some help with a local orphanage. I also spent time shoveling sludge and scrubbin walls in some of the homes and businesses that were left standing after the tsunami floods.

Stop whining about the Riverside story and find some way you can help the world. I know I'll be traveling to Manila soon and contributing to the economy.


There are numerous organizations in Cebu that work with homeless kids and orphans. If you or any other board members want to donate to a good cause next time you are in town, PM me and I can give you all the info.

It will be interesting to see how he fairs in Cebu next week but judging from his opinion probably not very well.

WestCoast1
02-27-12, 16:05
re-read my post.


@westcoast1.

my thoughts on your opinion about never showing money on the streets are that is a bit paranoid to do that, what if you are thirsty or hungry yourself, you will just pass on eatin or drinking because you are afraid to be robbed?i didn't say anything like that. i said i don't pull money out of my wallet for non-business transactions. of course i'm paying for the taxi, the bottle of water, the mcdo with cash. on day last july, i was sitting at mcdo on jones st, near the fuente circle, outside. there's this cebuana i've mentioned before, we have breakfast there often, between 7. 7:30am. we had just got our food and sat down at an outdoor table. she had a bisaya-speaking newspaper, and i wanted an english paper. she went back inside to grab sugar for the coffee, and i motioned some street kid over, handed him p50 to see if he could find a manila star, telling him to keep the rest. off he went. the lady was just walking back outside, sitting down, as he ran off. she said: "you know better." ya, but its 7:15am, there are very few people about. the kid came back with the newspaper for me, then he walked away. sixty seconds later several other boys walked up, asking if i wanted anything: bottle of water, newspaper. damn. i shoo-ed them off. a minute later they came back, with several other boys, and just hung in the area of jones and the side-street. the security guy at the door would walk out towards them and they would rep001ter, then return. they were only 6-8 years old, and only 5 boys, not exactly a mob. but one of them had seen me hand the boy money. she was right: i know better. worse, she pointed to the newspaper vendor 10 meters away, where i could have bought my own for p20.


and in regards to the hungry girl if that scared of being mobbed, just take her to the nearest food vendorsure. or nonsense. re-read riverman's original post. he was ill. no need to concern himself with locating and buying something for her at that moment.


or even better cover the money in your palm and give it to her very discrete.to each his own. its not smart. find a private place. also, there is no problem telling any filipino yes, but at another time / place for discretion. he / she will understand.


i mean you had the courage to come here in the first place instead of some golden cages where the usual westerner tourist goes and now you chicken out for 50 pesos?confusing fear with smarts. the fewer times you flash jewelry or money in public, the better your overall experience (the fewer opportunities you open for begging or picking your pocket). just sayin'. it's not "chicken out" if i'm willing to give her more than p50 if it can be done non-publicly.

she's a grown, single adult woman. who is responsible for her? the woman herself? her family? the village? riverman? pick one, and stick with your story.

Stroker Ace88
02-27-12, 19:33
@Westcoast1.

My thoughts on your opinion about never showing money on the streets are that is a bit paranoid to do that, what if you are thirsty or hungry yourself, you will just pass on eatin or drinking because you are afraid to be robbed?

I think is not wise to show a big stack of thousands everytime but otherwise just do your thing.

And in regards to the hungry girl if that scared of being mobbed, just take her to the nearest food vendor or even better cover the money in your palm and give it to her very discrete.

Come on, Cebu is far from places like Congo or Rwanda. And even there. I mean you had the courage to come here in the first place instead of some golden cages where the usual westerner tourist goes and now you chicken out for 50 pesos?Frenchmen,

Let's lay our cards on the table. The Philippines is a place that when visited seems straight-forward and easy to understand by simple observation and interaction. You observe and process and therefore you can make an informed opinion on the events and interactions of the locals with each other and with you. But that informed opinion is an illusion. There are many different layers to Philippine society and there are cultural reasons unique to the region that are often the primary and sometimes secondary motivation behind many of the reasons why locals do what they do. It's a place where time spent in the Philippines directly correlates to understanding and unraveling those layers and gaining a deeper understanding (some actions can never be explained or understood because it defies basic logic).

You posted a month ago that you spent a total of 7days in Cebu back in September 2011 (link below) , and maybe you have spent a few weeks in the Philippines total. Yet you are willing to debate and to pass judgement on another senior member by inferring his reluctance to instantly provide 50p on a busy street was equal to him "chickening out" and questioning his "courage"?

Just goes to show your knowledge and understanding about this subject is as thin as that 50p bill no matter which way you fold it. Calling a senior member out who has spent years in the Philippines because you lack the knowledge to fully understand his reasoning is ludacris.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3302-Cebu-Taxis&p=1232852#post1232852

Aussie Jo
02-28-12, 01:03
I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.

But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.

So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?Would you consider going to Ayala, going to Terraces and buying a coffee. Sit outside at Bo's Coffee or maybe Seattle coffee. Take a book / magazine and relax. Enjoy yourself and be relaxed. Make chat with your fellow coffee drinkers. Give the waitress your number.

Later, head up to TGI Fridays, take a seat outside, have a drink, relax.

BTW, sometimes it will be the most unexpected people whom will turn out to be good friends.

If all else fails, treat yourself to a massage at the Spa and be pampered for an hour or so.

Just some thoughts, no guarantees.

SergeantRay
02-28-12, 04:33
This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.

That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much successful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.

Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.

At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.

What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.

I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.

But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.

So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?If it's any consolation, I've never really had much luck at the malls, although I did have one girl approach me while I was waiting for my gf.

I'd try Colon. Check out the shops, and the streets after mass at the Santo Nino Shrine on Sunday. Increase your number of approaches. Hand out calling cards. If one girl doesn't pan out, tell her what you're looking for, hand her the card anyway.often you'll find that a dead end can pay off when her friend / cousin / neighbor is interested.

Mc Don
02-28-12, 04:39
I find that mall hunting is for the more experienced lot and you as a first timer will have hard time picking up the right vibes. Also older gents seem to get it easier because the mall rats know what they are there for. Just like you they often assume you may already have someone and so on. Maybe you should hang more around areas in the mall (been discussed here before) where you can start a conversation easier with girls seating next to your table. Jolleebee, McDs and so on have worked for me. Best way for you though would be hunting for phone numbers at night where you seem more confident to approach the girls and then texting them over the next few days and arranging dates. Make sure you leave an impression to be remembered while chatting to them. Don't flash money if you want a freebee do it in a subtle way, I often give them nicknames and joke with them so its easy for her to remember who she is chatting to in few days. Try the discos around IT Park.


This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.

I'm 30 years old, an everage looking guy. My purpose was meeting regular girls or semi-professional girls. I was really inspired by many posts saying how it's easy to do this in cebu. Well, at least for me it turned out to be slightly complicated.

In overall I managed to get a girl around every 4-5 days.

I started with dateinasia. In the beginning it was really promising, I got 3 girls in 3 days, but after this it became a hell. Why? Because only 10 girls from 100 answered my messages and only 2-3 from this 10 gave me the phone number. Then, many of girls just have never replied to my sms. Those who managed to come for a date were not ready for a quick love story. So after spending a week on internet I concluded that it's too time consuming and switched to other opportunities.

Juliana was a sure option for 2-3 times. 500p for taxi. But not sleeping every night is not an option for me, next day walking like a zombi that's too tiring. I quickly understood that on a long term basis I have to switch to a daytime activity.

That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much sucsessful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.

Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.

At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.

What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.

I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.

So my conclusion now, if you're looking for freebie girls maybe you should consider a different destination. Philippines are mostly for bar girls, other girls are too much conservative. At least I could not find same ambience I've found in Cuba for example where flirting is just a part of life.

But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.

So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?

FurryFriend
02-28-12, 05:02
Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.

At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.Since you only have 3 posts, I surmise you're pretty new to the world of mongering. If so, welcome aboard!

Unfortunately, your views on getting freebies in the Philippines are way too optimistic. Keep in mind that this is a mongering forum. You will always find guys with massive egos telling tall-tales of exploit. But most of that is just hot air. So take what you read here and elsewhere with a grain of salt.

If you want freebies from non-pros, you will need approaching skills, patience, and an innate ability to convey a fun, youthful demeanor. Filipinas are a conservative lot. Not to mention, despite anything you might have read on these forums, your typical Filipina does NOT prefer foreigners or older men. Most would rather die than be caught with some white guy. So you have your work cut out for you if you want a Filipina at the mall to stop and give you the light of day.

This is especially true of young attractive ones (the ones I bet you'd want for freebies). They're certainly not going to spread their legs easily or for free.

Yes, it's easier to pickup freebies in the Philippines than in Western countries. But "easier" does not mean "easy". I suggest you stop relying solely on freebies and consider just paying for it. You'll get higher quality girls quicker and it may even cost you less in the long term.

Afaire
02-28-12, 06:04
Mc Don, SergeantRay, thank you for the comments!

Frenchmen
02-28-12, 07:33
@Westcoast1,

I did not said that you are not right when you talk about minimizing risks by not flashing money, I just said that I don't think in those circumstances giving 50 peso to the girl would have made the guy a target.

I will just keep being the devil's advocate and ask you if the situation was slightly different and if the guy was really horny and wanted to be serviced by the girl but she would say,"OK, I will come with you but I need 50 p now to.", I have the feeling he would have not been that reluctant at all to hand the money.

The whole subject here was about feeding someone you know when they were hungry. Everythin else is just chit-chat. Not about handing money to beggars, not about endangering yourself. None of this.

@Stroker Ace88,

I don't mean any disrespect for no one here or elsewhere and I don't like to start fights, I just state my opinions and I respect everyone else opinions regardless if I chose to agree or disagree.

As for how seniority makes you an authority on any given subject, I can give you quite a few examples from my BJJ gym that are very long time practitioners yet they get their asses kicked by some young guy who started training les than a year ago. I brought this comparison as I find BJJ to be same as you described The Philippines:"straight forward and easy to understand by simple observation and intercation"

Anyway, I will get out of this discussion because I see no point on going on, if one can't spare a buck to help a fellow human being when in need. I pitty him.

Hank Moody
02-28-12, 08:43
I totally missed the fact that Cebu MidTown (above Robinson's at Fuente Osmena) is now called Summit Circle Hotel.

I used to always stay there before (from 1997 until 2008) but when it became a bit jaded and old and, more importantly, they jacked up the prices, I went elsewhere.

It looks as though it has been renovated (from a website I just saw) and the price is now around 16, 000 php for 7 nights (double) that seems very good to me (I work on the basis that anything under or up to 3000 per night is OK for me).

Any updated reviews on this place please?I just returned from my Phillipines trip and spent 5 of those night in the Summit Circle Hotel. The hotel was very nice and newly renovated. All ceramic floors in the room (look like hardwood) , granite tile in the bathroom, nice shower with rainfall and handheld, large in room safe, good wifi, fridge, nice couch and sitting area which we had a little in room party, great view of the circle and skywalk / edgecoaster at the crown regency hotel next door.

Room rates where 3600p booked on agoda the first night, next 3 nights were stay 2 nights at 3000p and get the 3rd night free (2000p / night) all including a nice, not great, breakfast buffet for 2. I also needed to extend 1 more night and got a rate of 1800p without breakfast.

The location is good with direct access to the mall, but outside there are a lot of street people. I also tried the Comedy Club across the street. What a mistake. Apparently Comedy club in the Phils is completely different than in the USA. It was a drag queen managing drunken Karaoke.

Also thanks to the board members that PM'd me. My PM is not active at this time so I could not reply.

Buko Max
02-28-12, 09:10
That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much sucsessful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.Forget Ayala and SM and try the smaller malls. Robinsons Fuente and Cybergate, Country mall, E-mall and Gaisano locations.

FurryFriend
02-28-12, 10:27
Forget Ayala and SM and try the smaller malls. Robinsons Fuente and Cybergate, Country mall, E-mall and Gaisano locations.What are usually the best hours to go?

Frenzy3
02-28-12, 11:23
This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.

I'm 30 years old, an everage looking guy. My purpose was meeting regular girls or semi-professional girls. I was really inspired by many posts saying how it's easy to do this in cebu. Well, at least for me it turned out to be slightly complicated.Yes 30 looking will not get you quick sex it will get you a gf.


At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.I have only ever picked up sales ladies there and they take weeks to get to even meet you.


What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.That what I do.


I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.Night life will get you the freelancers.


So my conclusion now, if you're looking for freebie girls maybe you should consider a different destination. Philippines are mostly for bar girls, other girls are too much conservative. At least I could not find same ambience I've found in Cuba for example where flirting is just a part of life.Do not come to PI looking for freebie sex, unless you look like a movie star and even then pay them to leave or you may find a stalker.


But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.

So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?Catch up let me show you what I know from living here 5 years

Starchild2012
02-28-12, 11:25
Guys, Please stop posting in Cebu Forum thread. That is here. Ever since Jackson created separate forum for cebu, its getting more confusing by the day now that we have multiple threads and a separate forum for Cebu itself but the valuable information posted by members are getting spread everywhere.

Just to remind everyone, check. You are here.

Forum... Asia ...The Philippines.... Cebu Forum.

A new sub-forum for Cebu with many categories was created few days back. You should be here.

Forum... Asia.... The Philippines. Cebu.

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Forum Asia The Philippines Cebu Forum <<< This should have been JUST A LINK TO THE MAIN CEBU FORUM. Jackson please do the necessary changes. I have send a mail also to jackson to correct it...Thanks

Simian
03-01-12, 13:00
Since you only have 3 posts, I surmise you're pretty new to the world of mongering. If so, welcome aboard!

Unfortunately, your views on getting freebies in the Philippines are way too optimistic. Keep in mind that this is a mongering forum. You will always find guys with massive egos telling tall-tales of exploit. But most of that is just hot air. So take what you read here and elsewhere with a grain of salt.

If you want freebies from non-pros, you will need approaching skills, patience, and an innate ability to convey a fun, youthful demeanor. Filipinas are a conservative lot. Not to mention, despite anything you might have read on these forums, your typical Filipina does NOT prefer foreigners or older men. Most would rather die than be caught with some white guy. So you have your work cut out for you if you want a Filipina at the mall to stop and give you the light of day.

This is especially true of young attractive ones (the ones I bet you'd want for freebies). They're certainly not going to spread their legs easily or for free.

Yes, it's easier to pickup freebies in the Philippines than in Western countries. But "easier" does not mean "easy". I suggest you stop relying solely on freebies and consider just paying for it. You'll get higher quality girls quicker and it may even cost you less in the long term.No offence intended but I really cannot agree with your claims regarding freebies, non-pros etc. First, I am not into tall tales. I have a rather settled life in this country where I have a very liberal live-in girlfriend who is just over 30 years old and I really do not get the barely legal scene or even the early 20s scene either. But even though I am closing in on 60, I get checked out by women all the time. And I get offered freebies too by women half my age.

Filipinas are not forward or aggressive in their approach. They will prefer to wait for the man to make his move. They love to flirt and they will do so, much much more than Western women who are conservative in that sense.

Uneducated women from the countryside will be conservative in their sexual tastes but only so long as it takes to educate them. And all you need to do is introduce them to some new stuff. They love porn and don't mind if you watch some porn, unlike western women who see porn as almost cheating, demeaning to women etc.

Filipinas do prefer foreign men for the following reasons. We don't beat them up, we respect them more and we play away less than local guys. Of course, if you go after the average 18-23 types, they might still hope for a local guy. But not the ladies with even a small amount of experience. Unlike Thailand, I have never heard or seen of any anti-foreign attitudes by locals. Yes, you are more likely to be mugged in Manila because you are a foreign but that is because they reckon that you are worth mugging.

I don't agree with the youthful demeanor. Many local men here have second "wives" who are much younger. Yes, if you go around with a long face and a sour attitude you will not get lucky. It is a national characteristic for people to be optimistic and thats the way they like it in others. But age has absolutely nothing to do with it. In fact, some girls prefer older guys who have more experience and a lower sex drive, meaning less cheating, less rough sex etc - and I do not mean the dirt poor girls either.

There is only one place where I would say that it will be hard or expensive to get or buy young women, and that is in the more upper-class parts of Manila. But even upper class families are not against a foreign guy in the family as long as he is high-so or rich. But then are we fishing in the top 5% pool here? Hardly.

Yes, many filipinas would not be caught dead with some old dead-beat looking white guy who has a sour attitude. But someone with a sunny disposition, who looks after his appearance and treats his ladies well will have a wide range of choice, even if he is in his sixties. I am getting too old to take up every offer but I get the look almost on a daily basis, especially outside Luzon and away from the tourist sites where the hookers are out in force. And even those who look like slobs and have a bad attitude still can get themselves a girl from the countryside. You see them all over the place.

Simian
03-01-12, 13:15
if it's any consolation, i've never really had much luck at the malls, although i did have one girl approach me while i was waiting for my gf.

i'd try colon. check out the shops, and the streets after mass at the santo nino shrine on sunday. increase your number of approaches. hand out calling cards. if one girl doesn't pan out, tell her what you're looking for, hand her the card anyway. often you'll find that a dead end can pay off when her friend / cousin / neighbor is interested.for those guys who cannot get connected in cebu, here are two possible scenarios:

regular girls: pay a girl to hang out with you to be your guide. tell her that there is no sex. all you are providing her is with money for her time and advice. get her to read the signs for you, who might be interested an who is not. and, it is a funny thing but if you already have a woman in tow, other women do check you out more! if you find a good guide, then perhaps you can get her to hand out your card or approach another woman for you. hey, it is a novel approach and you might learn something! if she is local, she may either find you the best locations or even get you one of her relatives.

pay for sex girls: either head to the streets around colon where you get the street girls. be careful that you don't get an **** one. and never trust her with money or anything. or check out the university girls by hanging out near universities. i have heard that one can find uni girls who will go with older guys for money but it will cost you but they are good looking (and that tip was from a local guy. but when i asked him about the sex, he said it was average and the girl was really for show).

Frenzy3
03-01-12, 13:57
Guys, Please stop posting in Cebu Forum thread. That is here. Ever since Jackson created separate forum for cebu, its getting more confusing by the day now that we have multiple threads and a separate forum for Cebu itself but the valuable information posted by members are getting spread everywhere.

Just to remind everyone, check. You are here.

Forum. Asia. The Philippines. Cebu Forum.

A new sub-forum for Cebu with many categories was created few days back. You should be here.

Forum. Asia. The Philippines. Cebu.

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Forum Asia The Philippines Cebu Forum <<< This should have been JUST A LINK TO THE MAIN CEBU FORUM. Jackson please do the necessary changes. I have send a mail also to Jackson to correct it. ThanksThanks for the head up. I been using a book mark so I will update it to http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu

Riverman
03-02-12, 06:52
This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.

I'm 30 years old, an everage looking guy. My purpose was meeting regular girls or semi-professional girls. I was really inspired by many posts saying how it's easy to do this in cebu. Well, at least for me it turned out to be slightly complicated.

In overall I managed to get a girl around every 4-5 days.

I started with dateinasia. In the beginning it was really promising, I got 3 girls in 3 days, but after this it became a hell. Why? Because only 10 girls from 100 answered my messages and only 2-3 from this 10 gave me the phone number. Then, many of girls just have never replied to my sms. Those who managed to come for a date were not ready for a quick love story. So after spending a week on internet I concluded that it's too time consuming and switched to other opportunities.

Juliana was a sure option for 2-3 times. 500p for taxi. But not sleeping every night is not an option for me, next day walking like a zombi that's too tiring. I quickly understood that on a long term basis I have to switch to a daytime activity.

That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much sucsessful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.

Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.

At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.

What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.

I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.

So my conclusion now, if you're looking for freebie girls maybe you should consider a different destination. Philippines are mostly for bar girls, other girls are too much conservative. At least I could not find same ambience I've found in Cuba for example where flirting is just a part of life.

But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.

So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?I don't know that your doing anything wrong. Part of the success with the DIA and mall thing has to do with seasonal timing factors. Your typical filipina (talking about the the young 18-22 cuties) are pretty consverative, so the ones who go for foreigners either for bf or for semi-pro action are either very poor or just need university money.

Hence the timing issue. Right now is a bad time for the college girls becuase their term ends in mid to late March. Right now is final exam prep and end of term papers / projects etc. They have already had to come up with the money for that stuff and they are busy doing it now. Its even worse for the graduating students as they have to prep for that.

So, right now and for the next 2 to 4 weeks, you will see a shortage of these girls looking for hook ups. When their summer break starts (end of March thru the beginning of June) you will again see a nice upsurge of these girls on DIA and in the malls. Towards the end of May is particularly good as so many of these girls need money for tuition / books / uniforms at the beginning of the next term. Then as school starts their is again a bit of a drop off, etc.

When the college girl drought hits, your best bet is the 23-30 range of girls as non pro's are concerned. Cheers

Mr Enternational
03-02-12, 14:54
I don't know that your doing anything wrong. Part of the success with the DIA and mall thing has to do with seasonal timing factors. Your typical filipina (talking about the the young 18-22 cuties) are pretty consverative, so the ones who go for foreigners either for bf or for semi-pro action are either very poor or just need university money.

Hence the timing issue. Right now is a bad time for the college girls becuase their term ends in mid to late March. Right now is final exam prep and end of term papers / projects etc. They have already had to come up with the money for that stuff and they are busy doing it now. Its even worse for the graduating students as they have to prep for that.

So, right now and for the next 2 to 4 weeks, you will see a shortage of these girls looking for hook ups. When their summer break starts (end of March thru the beginning of June) you will again see a nice upsurge of these girls on DIA and in the malls. Towards the end of May is particularly good as so many of these girls need money for tuition / books / uniforms at the beginning of the next term. Then as school starts their is again a bit of a drop off, etc.

When the college girl drought hits, your best bet is the 23-30 range of girls as non pro's are concerned. CheersRiverman it looks like you have it down to a science. You are right. Timing is everything. I just arrived in Cebu (my first time) from Coron. I met a stunner on DIA yesterday and the timing was just right. It's the first of the month and rent is due! The first convo:

L: me not good.

Mr E: why.

L: problem about my rent a room.

Mr E: no problem. You come see me tomorrow.

L: what do umean?

Mr E: you come see me.

L: where?

Mr E: hotel.

L: are you in cebu ryt now? Where?

Mr E: I tell you tomorrow when time for you to come. What is your phone number?

L: ok call me.

I texted her at 6:30 while still in Manila and she said she would be here at 9, but like I always read they are always late. She called at 9 and I asked where she was. She said something about taking a shower and the new time is 10:30. If she is not here by then I might just head to check out Mango.

Sammon
03-02-12, 17:51
I don't know that your doing anything wrong. Part of the success with the DIA and mall thing has to do with seasonal timing factors. Your typical filipina (talking about the the young 18-22 cuties) are pretty consverative, so the ones who go for foreigners either for bf or for semi-pro action are either very poor or just need university money.

Hence the timing issue. Right now is a bad time for the college girls becuase their term ends in mid to late March. Right now is final exam prep and end of term papers / projects etc. They have already had to come up with the money for that stuff and they are busy doing it now. Its even worse for the graduating students as they have to prep for that.

So, right now and for the next 2 to 4 weeks, you will see a shortage of these girls looking for hook ups. When their summer break starts (end of March thru the beginning of June) you will again see a nice upsurge of these girls on DIA and in the malls. Towards the end of May is particularly good as so many of these girls need money for tuition / books / uniforms at the beginning of the next term. Then as school starts their is again a bit of a drop off, etc.

When the college girl drought hits, your best bet is the 23-30 range of girls as non pro's are concerned. CheersGood research. In reality there are girls who make money by sleeping with foreigners and there are girls who try to scam to make money by promising everything and there are girls who will meet foreigners for a free meal without any body contact.

Last category girls will be very hard to break in even if you live there and meet often. Scammers maybe pursuaded to give in if they see there is no way they are going to get free money.

First category of girls have learned that they can make money anytime by sleeping with foreigners. There are no specific calendar to see when they need money. If the opportunity is there irrespective of if they need money for tuition, rent or whatever they are ready. But as everybody knows it is not like they just go outside and find foreigners, have sex and take money home. While they chat also they seem more interested if you are already in Philippines. Some girls even told me they chatted with some men for months but men never made the trip to meet them.

Sammon
03-02-12, 18:03
I don't know that your doing anything wrong. Part of the success with the DIA and mall thing has to do with seasonal timing factors. Your typical filipina (talking about the the young 18-22 cuties) are pretty consverative, so the ones who go for foreigners either for bf or for semi-pro action are either very poor or just need university money.

Hence the timing issue. Right now is a bad time for the college girls becuase their term ends in mid to late March. Right now is final exam prep and end of term papers / projects etc. They have already had to come up with the money for that stuff and they are busy doing it now. Its even worse for the graduating students as they have to prep for that.

So, right now and for the next 2 to 4 weeks, you will see a shortage of these girls looking for hook ups. When their summer break starts (end of March thru the beginning of June) you will again see a nice upsurge of these girls on DIA and in the malls. Towards the end of May is particularly good as so many of these girls need money for tuition / books / uniforms at the beginning of the next term. Then as school starts their is again a bit of a drop off, etc.

When the college girl drought hits, your best bet is the 23-30 range of girls as non pro's are concerned. CheersGood research. In reality there are girls who make money by sleeping with foreigners and there are girls who try to scam to make money by promising everything and there are girls who will meet foreigners for a free meal without any body contact.

Last category girls will be very hard to break in even if you live there and meet often. Scammers maybe pursuaded to give in if they see there is no way they are going to get free money.

First category of girls have learned that they can make money anytime by sleeping with foreigners. There are no specific calendar to see when they need money. If the opportunity is there irrespective of if they need money for tuition, rent or whatever they are ready. But as everybody knows it is not like they just go outside and find foreigners, have sex and take money home. While they chat also they seem more interested if you are already in Philippines. Some girls even told me they chatted with some men for months but men never made the trip to meet them.

Riverman
03-02-12, 22:36
Riverman it looks like you have it down to a science. You are right. Timing is everything. I just arrived in Cebu (my first time) from Coron. I met a stunner on DIA yesterday and the timing was just right. It's the first of the month and rent is due! The first convo:

L: me not good.

Mr E: why.

L: problem about my rent a room.

Mr E: no problem. You come see me tomorrow.

L: what do umean?

Mr E: you come see me.

L: where?

Mr E: hotel.

L: are you in cebu ryt now? Where?

Mr E: I tell you tomorrow when time for you to come. What is your phone number?

L: ok call me.

I texted her at 6:30 while still in Manila and she said she would be here at 9, but like I always read they are always late. She called at 9 and I asked where she was. She said something about taking a shower and the new time is 10:30. If she is not here by then I might just head to check out Mango.Good luck with your DIA contact. If you end up at mango later in the evening around 9/10 pm there is usually a string of 18 to 25 year old pro's in front of the National Bookstore directly accross the CalTex gas station. If you walk noth on that side street to the next intersection there is usually another 3 to 5 girls hanging out. If you continue north further there are a couple of other clusters of girls at a couple of other points, the last one being Ma. Christina street. Then around the fuente circle and in front of Robinsons there are often girls hanging out or walking around offering "massages." Just beware the ladyboys. If the girl is rather tall with big boobs there is about a 99% chance she's a ladyboy. Then of course there's Juliana's for the semi-pro's and the nearby go go bars. Cheers

Mr Enternational
03-03-12, 01:05
riverman it looks like you have it down to a science. you are right. timing is everything. i just arrived in cebu (my first time) from coron. i met a stunner on dia yesterday and the timing was just right. it's the first of the month and rent is due!

i texted her at 6:30 while still in manila and she said she would be here at 9, but like i always read they are always late. she called at 9 and i asked where she was. she said something about taking a shower and the new time is 10:30. if she is not here by then i might just head to check out mango.said dia contact was taking too long for me. after all, i had already been in cebu 2 hours and hadn't had any pussy. but not to worry because dia contact 2 was blowing me up. just to give dia contact 1 a little more time i told dia contact 2 that i would call and let her know if it was okay to come after i got out of the shower.

when i got out of the shower contact 1 was out of time. i called and told her not to come because she was taking too much time. she said that she was waiting for a taxi (1 hour and a half after she should have already arrived.) i told her to forget it and i would just see her tomorrow. (it is now 7am and she is asking to come. i told her i will call later because i am sleep.) i gave contact 2 the green light to come over. i had only chatted with her once the day before for like 2 minutes and she was saying something about her father dying. she asked me if it was okay if she took a taxi and i approved it.

when she arrived she sent me a text and i sent a text back asking how much was the taxi. she said 70. i took that amount downstairs to pay the guy. when i got outside there was another girl in the taxi as well. she said it was her bodyguard and she could either wait downstairs or come join us if i would like. (you got to really try not to get laid in this place.) i invited them both up. the contact went to take a shower while the bodyguard stayed with me. the bodyguard said she was scared because she never fucked a foreigner before because their dicks are too big so she only wanted to suck. i declined that invitation but decided to make her the picture girl instead. when the contact came back she started sucking my dick and the bodyguard got a few snapshots of it before running off and hiding in the bathroom. after about 15 minutes i told her to get her ass back in here and get on the camera. soon my girl started to rush me. i admonished her. when everything was over i gave her 1000 pesos. this is when the drama started.

the bodyguard said that her friend said i promised her 3000 pesos. i said no it must be someone else she was talking to. they tried to use the father dying card and how everyone was at the house and they had to buy snacks and drinks and bread. i told them that the 1000 could go towards that but anything over i will not be liable for. she went on about how i took pictures and she had never done that before so i needed to give her 500 more or erase the pictures. i told her that if i erased the pictures the 1000 was going to turn into 500. she went off to the bathroom to smoke and the bodyguard kept trying to weasel more money out of me; 100 for taxi, tip for her. she was wasting her time. the contact returned and the same song and dance. dad died, funeral, snacks, i don't have a good heart because i won't give more money, yada yada yada. it was going in one ear and out the other.

i finally decided to turn the tv on and pay them no attention. next they both went in the bathroom and that was my cue. i went over to the door and opened it to let them out (since the bathroom is right next to the entry door.) i peeked into the bathroom and all of the complimentary toothbrushes were gone, my personal toothbrush was gone, and my tube of personal toothpaste was emptied from the tube. the bodyguard looked at me quickly and showed me her purse saying it wasn't her. now they were out in the hall and i saw my toothbrush on the room service tray that the people across the hall had left out to be picked up. i got it and went back into the room.

a few minutes later i received a text saying,"thank you for making me upset. hope you are hapy to make a person felt bad." i did not reply. i changed clothes and went to mango.

Red Kilt
03-03-12, 05:23
Guys, Please stop posting in Cebu Forum thread. That is here. Ever since Jackson created separate forum for cebu, its getting more confusing by the day now that we have multiple threads and a separate forum for Cebu itself but the valuable information posted by members are getting spread everywhere.How do I get back to the MAIN Cebu Forum?

Someone posted a link here the other day. I used that and got the full Cebu forum. I am confused now because I cannot find Cebu, just Cebu Forum

Member #4351
03-03-12, 05:40
Here? http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information

Thanks to Frenzy for the bookmark. Jackson has confused things...I'm not quite sure why.

Riverman
03-03-12, 05:54
How do I get back to the MAIN Cebu Forum?

Someone posted a link here the other day. I used that and got the full Cebu forum. I am confused now because I cannot find Cebu, just Cebu ForumRed Kilt. If that link isn't handy I've also found if you're in the new Cebu section linked to from the Front page after you log in, if you scroll up near the top of the page where it says Forum Asia The Phippines Cebu Forum, etc, etc. If you click on "asia" within that string it will bring you to a "sub-forums" list and scrolling down you will find the Main Cebu section. For some odd reason this is the only place I can find it to be accessed in this matrix.

Red Kilt
03-03-12, 05:56
Here?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information

Thanks to Frenzy for the bookmark. Jackson has confused things. I'm not quite sure why.Thanks David (and Frenzy too) for the link.

I am glad it wasn't just me who was confused.

Let's hope we can get this "corrected" so that we can get back to the different threads under Cebu.

Riverman
03-03-12, 06:10
. this is when the drama started.

the bodyguard said that her friend said i promised her 3000 pesos. i said no it must be someone else she was talking to. they tried to use the father dying card and how everyone was at the house and they had to buy snacks and drinks and bread. i told them that the 1000 could go towards that but anything over i will not be liable for. she went on about how i took pictures and she had never done that before so i needed to give her 500 more or erase the pictures. i told her that if i erased the pictures the 1000 was going to turn into 500. she went off to the bathroom to smoke and the bodyguard kept trying to weasel more money out of me; 100 for taxi, tip for her. she was wasting her time. the contact returned and the same song and dance. dad died, funeral, snacks, i don't have a good heart because i won't give more money, yada yada yada. it was going in one ear and out the other.

i finally decided to turn the tv on and pay them no attention. next they both went in the bathroom and that was my cue. i went over to the door and opened it to let them out (since the bathroom is right next to the entry door.) i peeked into the bathroom and all of the complimentary toothbrushes were gone, my personal toothbrush was gone, and my tube of personal toothpaste was emptied from the tube. the bodyguard looked at me quickly and showed me her purse saying it wasn't her. now they were out in the hall and i saw my toothbrush on the room service tray that the people across the hall had left out to be picked up. i got it and went back into the room.

a few minutes later i received a text saying,"thank you for making me upset. hope you are hapy to make a person felt bad." i did not reply. i changed clothes and went to mango.i congraluate you on keeping your cool. if you had either over or under reacted to that nonesense the situation could have turned out much worse.

these girls can be just innocently rep001ter brained, but my experience has consistently shown me that whenever they radically alter things at the last minute and suprise you like that, they always turn out bad. so now, if they tell me their in the taxi alone and they show up with someone, or they agree they can bring 1 person to the 1st meet and they bring 2 or 3, or whatever the bullshit is, i just immediately pass on them. if i haven't even met them, and they seen to angling for every freebie under the sun via text while they are "on the way" i pass. etc etc. i'm just tired of that bullshit and go on to the next.

never do those chicks suprise to the upside when they are pulling that shit. from a bar i will take 2 girls i've never met before. but if its street or dia action, i hook up with the girl solo first before she can bring anyone into a room alone with me on a subsequent date. to a first meet in a public place, fine, she can bring a chaperon. but never to the room.

Stroker Ace88
03-03-12, 06:19
Jackson,

Thanks for creating a new sub-forum for Cebu, much appreciated!

Can I make a few small suggestions. Can you transfer the recent posts on this newly created 'Cebu Forum' link and paste them in the 'Cebu General Information' thread and lock this thread? After this thread progresses a few pages your original post which contains the link to the Cebu section will become buried.

The original thread has 6200+ posts and this new thread assumes the same function as the older one thus creating two threads about the same topic. Some guys are already confused and this would just streamline and keep all the general topic posts together on one thread.

Can you transfer posts (#345 through #355) on the 'Cebu Hotels' thread and paste them in the newly created 'Buying-Owning-Renting Property in Cebu' section as the topic deals with condo ownership.

I know you are busy sorry for the disturbance. I tried to PM you my thoughts but your inbox is full.

Thanks once again.
How do I get back to the MAIN Cebu Forum?

Someone posted a link here the other day. I used that and got the full Cebu forum. I am confused now because I cannot find Cebu, just Cebu ForumRed Kilt,

When Jackson expanded the Cebu thread to a new sub-section I posted my thoughts on the subject as noted above. I maintain the posts on this thread should be moved to the original 'Cebu General Info' thread which contain 6200+ posts and lock this thread creating a simple and easy portal to the expanded Cebu section.

To find the new Cebu sub-section I go to the first post which contains the link and gain entry that way. Some here have bookmarked the sub-section.

Red Kilt
03-03-12, 07:44
To find the new Cebu sub-section I go to the first post which contains the link and gain entry that way. Some here have bookmarked the sub-section.That's great Stroker.

Actually Riverman's tip (see Post #71) is also good.

No doubt Jackson will pick it up soon when he can.

Gaijin Gigolo
03-03-12, 16:53
I don't know that your doing anything wrong. Part of the success with the DIA and mall thing has to do with seasonal timing factors. Your typical filipina (talking about the the young 18-22 cuties) are pretty consverative, so the ones who go for foreigners either for bf or for semi-pro action are either very poor or just need university money.

Hence the timing issue. Right now is a bad time for the college girls becuase their term ends in mid to late March. Right now is final exam prep and end of term papers / projects etc. They have already had to come up with the money for that stuff and they are busy doing it now. Its even worse for the graduating students as they have to prep for that.

So, right now and for the next 2 to 4 weeks, you will see a shortage of these girls looking for hook ups. When their summer break starts (end of March thru the beginning of June) you will again see a nice upsurge of these girls on DIA and in the malls. Towards the end of May is particularly good as so many of these girls need money for tuition / books / uniforms at the beginning of the next term. Then as school starts their is again a bit of a drop off, etc.

When the college girl drought hits, your best bet is the 23-30 range of girls as non pro's are concerned. CheersExcellent info on the timing, mate. Thanks much!

Riverman
03-06-12, 03:05
Excellent info on the timing, mate. Thanks much!My pleasure GG, good hunting.

Buko Max
03-10-12, 14:10
Guys, Please stop posting in Cebu Forum thread. That is here.So I would think this thread is now obsolete! ?

LevDog
03-12-12, 03:23
I am looking for a place to watch the upcoming NCAA basketball tournament in Cebu City. Does anybody have any suggestions?

Stroker Ace88
03-12-12, 05:25
I am looking for a place to watch the upcoming NCAA basketball tournament in Cebu City. Does anybody have any suggestions?All Sports Network (ASN) Skycable channel 69 will show some games. Not sure which games or if they will be live or tape delay. ASN just finished showing the Big 10 Championship and it was on live 320am with a few tape delay broadcasts 12hrs after the live airing so up to you if you want to stay up late or sleep in.

Some other Skycable channels might carry a few games, ESPN ch31 (Asian ESPN not American version) , Balls TV ch34, Basketball TV ch33.

I do not think bars in Cebu will be open all night just to air NCAA games live. Maybe Badgers or Sports Exchange would have a few tape delay games on the next day after it was live but that's just a guess.

Paulr1950
03-12-12, 05:37
All Sports Network (ASN) Skycable channel 69 will show some games. Not sure which games or if they will be live or tape delay. ASN just finished showing the Big 10 Championship and it was on live 320am with a few tape delay broadcasts 12hrs after the live airing so up to you if you want to stay up late or sleep in.

Some other Skycable channels might carry a few games, ESPN ch31 (Asian ESPN not American version) , Balls TV ch34, Basketball TV ch33.

I do not think bars in Cebu will be open all night just to air NCAA games live. Maybe Badgers or Sports Exchange would have a few tape delay games on the next day after it was live but that's just a guess.Think you not been in cebu for a long time stroker, both places have been closed badgers for nearly a yr and sports exchange about 4/5 months ago, maybe emerald irish or urban cellers out talmban way or the old silver doller or lone star

Stroker Ace88
03-12-12, 06:08
Think you not been in cebu for a long time stroker, both places have been closed badgers for nearly a yr and sports exchange about 4/5 months ago, maybe emerald irish or urban cellers out talmban way or the old silver doller or lone starI never visited Badgers Sports bar but I knew of it and wasn't aware it closed. I googled it and you are right, I see it closed February 2011.

Next Sports Exchange I ate there in January and it was open that time so your info about it closing 4-5months ago is incorrect. I know the owner and the bar was under water for some time. After contacting him via facebook you are right, closed January 20th. Sucks, the place had above average western food and very nice decor but with the 3rd floor out of the way location and no windows it was alot to overcome.

Silver Dollar is now called Mavericks bar, after Carl sold out to Graham.

So Levdog you are SOL if you want to watch the games at a bar in Cebu, best to find someone with Skycable.

LevDog
03-12-12, 07:00
Thanks for the info. I was a fan of the sports exchange also. I ate there right before it closed in mid January. I was sorry to see it go. I will look for an establishment that carries Skycable. If anybody knows a place which carries Skycable and is open after midnight please let me know.

Spivey24
03-12-12, 18:21
Is there any place like Manila Bay Cafe (formerly LA Cafe) in Cebu? I have been to LA Cafe twice and enjoyed it, but never been to Cebu. I am flying into Manila, then need to head to Cebu to catch a bus / boat, and am trying to decide whether to stay over in Manila or Cebu before going diving.

Questor55
03-12-12, 21:22
Is there any place like Manila Bay Cafe (formerly LA Cafe) in Cebu? I have been to LA Cafe twice and enjoyed it, but never been to Cebu. I am flying into Manila, then need to head to Cebu to catch a bus / boat, and am trying to decide whether to stay over in Manila or Cebu before going diving.Spivey, the closest you are likely to find in Cebu is Julianna's in Mango Square. Many past references in the 'old' Cebu Forum.

Spivey24
03-14-12, 00:24
Spivey, the closest you are likely to find in Cebu is Julianna's in Mango Square. Many past references in the 'old' Cebu Forum.Thanks, but can't seem to find the 'old' cebu forum. Not much history in this forum.

Member #4491
03-14-12, 01:11
Frenzy-buddy and all other Cebu pervs out there that I hoped and planned to see: Barba's sincere apologies and regrets for not getting out of my love juice swamp in Davao and flying my sorry ass over to the promised land of easy punani. Next time I WILL make it to Cebu. Thank you keeping the door open for this provincial adventurer and see you in some months.

All the best from Barba, also him lost in the Cebu forums.

Stroker Ace88
03-14-12, 01:55
Thanks, but can't seem to find the 'old' cebu forum. Not much history in this forum.Hmm I am inclined to say RTFF but since you can't find the forum, I will in this case make an exception. So my half-assed attempt at showing you where the Cebu forum is located, perfectly matches your half-assed attempt to find it.

Just a few days ago there was a lengthy discussion and several links posted to the fully expanded Cebu forum. If you go to the first post on this thread you will find the link posted by Jackson to the Cebu forum. Either-or will get you to the same destination.

From your post history you have been around since 07, so you are no newbie and should know better. You lamented there is not much info posted here but sure-as-shit that was one of the topics covered. If you can't be bothered to read 16 posts back or roughly one full page of info then do not expect some of the more knowledgeable members here to bend over backwards to provide you with answers.

So to you sir, RTFF.

Buko Max
03-14-12, 10:47
Thanks for the info. I was a fan of the sports exchange also. I ate there right before it closed in mid January. I was sorry to see it go. I will look for an establishment that carries Skycable. If anybody knows a place which carries Skycable and is open after midnight please let me know.Some of the games in round one will commence in the early morning but the games in subsequent rounds will start in prime time (7:30 AM local time).

That being said, Sandtrap opens early I think around 8:00 AM. There was an ownership change recently but I know they have Skycable. Their web page has expired.

Joker's Arms in Mandaue might open early as they had a Super Bowl party which was standing room only!

http://www.jokersarms.com/index.php

Kiwi Lodge might show some games if you ask :

http://www.kiwilodgecebu.com/barrestaurant.html

Frenzy3
03-14-12, 11:45
Frenzy-buddy and all other Cebu pervs out there that I hoped and planned to see: Barba's sincere apologies and regrets for not getting out of my love juice swamp in Davao and flying my sorry ass over to the promised land of easy punani. Next time I WILL make it to Cebu. Thank you keeping the door open for this provincial adventurer and see you in some months.

All the best from Barba, also him lost in the Cebu forums.I see you next time. I still be here

Sam 14
03-15-12, 03:24
Frenzy3,

Thank You for that. Good info

LevDog
03-15-12, 07:39
Thanks Mattick for the info. I did check out sandtrap, you are right they do open early, but they said they don't have skycable. I will check out the other places you mentioned. Appreciate the feedback.

Aussie Jo
03-18-12, 03:46
Just a few days ago there was a lengthy discussion and several links posted to the fully expanded Cebu forum. If you go to the first post on this thread you will find the link posted by Jackson to the Cebu forum. Either-or will get you to the same destination.

F.I can find both the new and old forums they just don't link together intuitively in my basic monger mind.

For instance, is it possible to get a link, in the same that there is a link to Dragon Slayer's Forum.

Also, for a visitor coming in through this page http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forum.php They don't see the Cebu Forum.

My casual observation is that there are a lot less new posts in the new Cebu forum.

Probably there are limitations in "Powered by vBulletin® Version 4. 1.4 "

AJ

Gangles
03-18-12, 14:53
Westcoast1 has spoken frequently of his favourite hangout, the very sleazy go-go bar on Palaez, just north of the Cebu Century hotel. And the 500 peso LT barfine that goes with it.

Well, the bar is no more. Replaced with the concrete and steel skeleton of a new condo building.

Next thing, there will be a concerted police action to clear the scumminess for the locale to compliment the increase in quality which the condo will bring. While I was there, my pickup pointed out a police raid at one of the not-quite-so-sleazy bars arond the corner.

Too bad.

G

WestCoast1
03-19-12, 02:00
Westcoast1 has spoken frequently of his favourite hangout, the very sleazy go-go bar on Palaez, just north of the Cebu Century hotel. And the 500 peso LT barfine that goes with it.

Well, the bar is no more. Replaced with the concrete and steel skeleton of a new condo building.

Next thing, there will be a concerted police action to clear the scumminess for the locale to compliment the increase in quality which the condo will bring. While I was there, my pickup pointed out a police raid at one of the not-quite-so-sleazy bars arond the corner.

Too bad.

GWC<- Sad face.

It begs the questions: How am I going to find the street-guy now? How will I get to the dorm girls he finds for p700 (200 for him. 500 for the girl)? How will the dorm girl tell me a sob story about how mean the street guy is, and ask me to cut him out of the equation next time? How will we cut him out, dropping the price to p600, a savings of 100 for me and an extra 100 for her? If I can't find her, how will she bring me other girls for 3-somes? If I can't find the girl or my 3-somes, how am I going to get laid by young nubiles? If I don't get laid by (lots of) young nubiles downtown Cebu: HOW THE H*LL WILL I GET ALL THOSE PICS?

Maybe its better to tear down that condo now, and put that sleazy bar back there. You don't want to upset the nature of the board, do 'ya?

X Man
03-19-12, 04:37
I haven't confirmed yet, but somone told me the St. Moritz bikini bar is closed. What a shame. It was out of the way (near Ayala) and therefore had few customers and therefore the gals weren't always very lovely. But it was such a grand place. It obviously had been a really nice place when first built and it still had a type of old but quality atmosphere. I will miss it. Compared to that, I was in Maverick / SD the other day and it's a dump. Pieces of wood missing, the dance floor some type of linoleum that is worn thru.

Of course there is a new disco in the Mango complex. ALCOHOLOGY or something like that. Very nice, stropes, but very crowded on the weekend. I'm not sure if your could carry on a conversation in the place. Take pen and paper?

One of the big surprises is Pussycats. I'm not particularly fond of the waitress and mama, but there have been some nice girls there the last times I've visited in Jan and yesterday. In January I had already bought a girl a drink and damn if one of the waitresses came over and said,"that girl says she knows you". She was the finest gal in the bar and I'd never laid eyes on her before. A short conversation and. Well, she was a Tagged friend.

Holiday Plaza Htl. Love the convenient location and breakfast buffet, but I have to find a better place. It's getting pretty dumpy.

X

Aussie Jo
03-19-12, 08:27
Maybe its better to tear down that condo now, and put that sleazy bar back there. You don't want to upset the nature of the board, do 'ya?The location may change but the game will stay the same. My guess is that another bar will move to take over market opportunity.

Snow Koala
03-19-12, 08:32
Guys,

A cute, sexy and very open-minded friend of mine has relocated to Cebu and looking for meet ups.

PM me if you are in Cebu, interested want details and photos.

Snow

Cansx
03-20-12, 11:13
Thanks Mattick for the info. I did check out sandtrap, you are right they do open early, but they said they don't have skycable. I will check out the other places you mentioned. Appreciate the feedback.Why not just watch online? I think they charge like 4 dollars and sign up for hide my net if you need to have USA ip address.

Cats2
03-20-12, 12:02
Coming to Cebu in a few days time. It's my first time in Cebu, but not the first time in the Philippines. I would appreciate advice from the more experienced mongers. The easy / quick way to get a girl for LT must be EWR from a bar. No time on this trip for daytime mall hunting and not confident of getting what I want from freelance. So, is it possible in Cebu to pay the bar the EWR only upfront and pay the girl her fee in the morning? That's what I've done in other places in the Philippines.

If everything is paid upfront before leaving the bar, how can I rely on good performance or the girl not doing a runner? If I pay in the morning then I've got more control of the situation.

Can anyone give good advice please? Thank you.

Stroker Ace88
03-21-12, 00:11
Coming to Cebu in a few days time. It's my first time in Cebu, but not the first time in the Philippines. I would appreciate advice from the more experienced mongers. The easy / quick way to get a girl for LT must be EWR from a bar. No time on this trip for daytime mall hunting and not confident of getting what I want from freelance. So, is it possible in Cebu to pay the bar the EWR only upfront and pay the girl her fee in the morning? That's what I've done in other places in the Philippines.

If everything is paid upfront before leaving the bar, how can I rely on good performance or the girl not doing a runner? If I pay in the morning then I've got more control of the situation.

Can anyone give good advice please? Thank you.Since this will be your first time in a Cebu bar you will have to pay everything up front. The standard barfine rate is 1800p (1000p+800p all-in). Some bars charge 2800p (2000p for the girl and 800p to the bar) so ask the mamasan before deciding to take a girl. The prices increase at the KTV's and can be as high as 6000p+ at Arena. If you are a well known regular customer at some Mango bars the mamasans might give you the option to pay only the bar portion of the EWR barfine and pay the girl her portion in the room when she leaves. But that's only if they know and like you and other girls reported back to the mamsan that you treated the previous girls right.

How do you deal with runners or bad performance? Spend time in the bar with the girl and buy her a drink. Talk with her, tell her what you want and expect and watch closely for warning signals. Go with your gut feeling and not the hard on in your pants. If you think she will run or that she is just playing you, call another girl over and begin your search again. Of course there is no way to fully ensure good service or that she will not be a runner but talking with the girl and testing if there is chemistry beyond your wallet helps. YMMV.

WestCoast1
03-21-12, 02:59
Coming to Cebu in a few days time. It's my first time in Cebu, but not the first time in the Philippines. I would appreciate advice from the more experienced mongers. The easy / quick way to get a girl for LT must be EWR from a bar. No time on this trip for daytime mall hunting and not confident of getting what I want from freelance. So, is it possible in Cebu to pay the bar the EWR only upfront and pay the girl her fee in the morning? That's what I've done in other places in the Philippines.

If everything is paid upfront before leaving the bar, how can I rely on good performance or the girl not doing a runner? If I pay in the morning then I've got more control of the situation.

Can anyone give good advice please? Thank you.Stick to the Vikings group of bars on Mango. P1800 as mentioned. Don't dick around, tell the mamasan exactly what you're looking for (and buy her a drink if she finds a girl for you). The girls from these 6 (or so) bars don't ask for a tip; 1800 is all in, up front, tip as you desire in the morning. Try Sisters bar there; smaller and intimate.

Dark Vader
03-21-12, 13:23
Try Sisters bar there; smaller and intimate.Maybe just me but I've had a number of runners from Sisters in recent years despite agreeing my requirements beforehand.

On one occasion I went back to the bar afterwards, not to get my moneyback but just to complain that the service was not as agreed. Unfortunately I got little sympathy and so it tends not to be my favorite bar these days although I think that its under new ownership now.

WestCoast1
03-21-12, 14:52
Maybe just me but I've had a number of runners from Sisters in recent years despite agreeing my requirements beforehand.

On one occasion I went back to the bar afterwards, not to get my moneyback but just to complain that the service was not as agreed. Unfortunately I got little sympathy and so it tends not to be my favorite bar these days although I think that its under new ownership now.I too had a runner 2 years ago from Sisters (her full-facial pics posted in PG). When I was there in July, the new mama (not a bad-looking woman) told me she had cleaned the place up. She said: "You will not see one same girl from before. We replace every girl and also management. Many problems with runner and stealing. No more." I had been chatting a cutie, and pulled out my camera. I told her I would consider taking the girl, if I could get a pic of the mama and girl together, to post on the internet if the girl ran. The mama agreed. I didn't end up taking that girl for other reasons.

Anyone have an update on Sister's?

Stroker Ace88
03-22-12, 04:04
I too had a runner 2 years ago from Sisters (her full-facial pics posted in PG). When I was there in July, the new mama (not a bad-looking woman) told me she had cleaned the place up. She said: "You will not see one same girl from before. We replace every girl and also management. Many problems with runner and stealing. No more." I had been chatting a cutie, and pulled out my camera. I told her I would consider taking the girl, if I could get a pic of the mama and girl together, to post on the internet if the girl ran. The mama agreed. I didn't end up taking that girl for other reasons.

Anyone have an update on Sister's?Sister's is a place to have a SML and chill, as others have mentioned runner's a plenty in there. I have not visited recently so no idea if the new mamasan has indeed cleaned things up and changed the focus from a 'get all the money you can out of the foreigner' mentality to one dealing with better customer service. Some bars have such a backward mindset. If a guy has a good time and is provided with good service, that customer will come back again and again and tell everyone they know to visit. When girls run and the mamasans don't give a shit the customers do not repeat.

Westcoast posted good info, stick with the Viking group of bars. I would even suggest Amigo's located next to Red Lips as an alternative. Not sure if the French owner sold the bar yet but he is a good guy and ran a tight ship.

I would not bar fine from Lone Star or the new Mavericks. Lone Star has a great setup and it's a good place to sit back and enjoy a few SML's and watch the girls dance but I do not like the mamasans they have. They look out for the girls and don't give a shit about the customers. They have lied to my face in the past and told me "sure that girl no have period, she ok" when they knew auntflo was in town. Graham seems like a nice guy but never once comped me a single SML after visiting a few times a week for a month and each time I racked up 2-3000p drink tabs. But whateva', now I spend my time and money elsewhere.

Muzungufotsy
03-23-12, 12:48
Guys,

A cute, sexy and very open-minded friend of mine has relocated to Cebu and looking for meet ups.

PM me if you are in Cebu, interested want details and photos.

SnowSeems to me this is a scam.

I PM you and you provide nothing.

Snow Koala
03-25-12, 03:53
Seems to me this is a scam.

I PM you and you provide nothing.I spoke to her about you and she did not like your attitude. Like I said to you, You can forget about it.

X Man
03-25-12, 03:55
I don't find Sisters such a good place to chill. I would have expected Tina, (the hefty Mamasan that looks somewhat male neaderthal) to get Sisters back on track, but I had an awful time there. I had just arrived, was tired, just wanted to have a beer and relax a bit. But, as usual, they come at you in pairs and start touching you from behind before introducing themselves. In fact, the waitress was asking if I wanted to buy drinks even before I knew their names. Ummm,"no". I told them I was tired and just wanted to watch the show and then the angry faces and the "stuck up" whispered as they walk away. I almost immediately wished I was back in AC, where I had flown from. I finished my beer and left, never to return.

As for Viking bars, I wish they would get more than one gal up on stage at a time. On weekends they might have two or three. Coming from AC where you sometimes get dozens of gals on stage, it's a bit disappointing.

Why do you have to sign for every damn thing in Cebu? It get's annoying after a while. I think every bar does it. In Ac they just but the tab in your cup and you can look at it. No big deal.

In summary, I had only three women in Cebu and none who currently work the bars. One from DIA, one that I met at Silver Dollar a while back who is always good for an afternoon short time, and one the younger half-sis of a bargirl I fkd last year. This one was the real gem, super cute and petite, with full on GFE, but she turned out to have a dark side.

I will elaborate if I have time and if there is interest. X.

X


Sister's is a place to have a SML and chill, as others have mentioned runner's a plenty in there. I have not visited recently so no idea if the new mamasan has indeed cleaned things up and changed the focus from a 'get all the money you can out of the foreigner' mentality to one dealing with better customer service.

SNIP.

Muzungufotsy
03-25-12, 03:59
What attitude? She doesn't know anything about me.

What bulshit excuse is that? Who is this guy?

Member #4351
03-25-12, 04:00
Seems to me this is a scam.

I PM you and you provide nothing.Your past posts have all been asking guys to fix you up or complaining about how much other guys paid or about tipping. Your koripot attitude won't get you very far.

Muzungufotsy
03-25-12, 04:05
I pay the right price because I know it.

Most of the guys overpay because it makes them feel better but they have no clue about the right prices here.

Stroker Ace88
03-25-12, 04:28
Your past posts have all been asking guys to fix you up or complaining about how much other guys paid or about tipping. Your koripot attitude won't get you very far.Yikes what a train-wreck post history that's full of air. Good example of a guy who demands everything and gives back little.

SnowK,

You are wise to screen guys carefully. Just know that even if your cute friend approves a guy chances are you will be blamed if the guy turns out to be a jerk.

Snow Koala
03-25-12, 04:53
Yikes what a train-wreck post history that's full of air. Good example of a guy who demands everything and gives back little.

SnowK,

You are wise to screen guys carefully. Just know that even if your cute friend approves a guy chances are you will be blamed if the guy turns out to be a jerk.Stoker,

Thanks, she can look after herself. I have given her number out to a couple of guys, she has been to Cebu malls and I told her to go to Julianas on Fri / Sat night. I will talk to her tomorrow and if she has not got any hook ups yet, I ask her if I should can put a photo on here.

She is very open-minded and loves to lick pussy, so if you already have a girl and you are looking for a 3rd, she will be happy to join.

Snow

Sir Lancelot
03-25-12, 18:37
I will elaborate if I have time and if there is interest.Yeah, I'd definitely be interested. I too have just got back from Cebu and spent four nights going to the bars. I didn't get round to going to Sisters though for some reason (wasn't too impressed two years ago). I barfined from BG's, Viking and Erik the Red but I was also impressed by Planet X, Lone Star, Pussycat and Red Lips. I didn't bother with the other high-price bars next to Pussycats.

I agree it's annoying that there are so few actually dancing and most of the girls are sat in the shadows. It can work quiet well though if you work out the best place to sit when you arrive at a bar, near the non-dancing girls (I scored a stunner, one of the girls of my trip, at Viking in this way). Pressure for lady-drinks seems to be minimal except for Planet X where once again I got swarmed by girls and a waitress would appear within 3 nanoseconds asking if I would like to buy them all a drink.

I asked a number of questions on this forum a couple of months ago so I will post a full report with photos soon, to thank everyone for their help.

Frenzy3
03-27-12, 13:46
I pay the right price because I know it.

Most of the guys overpay because it makes them feel better but they have no clue about the right prices here.Do not help this guy, I met this snake prison break and he hit up on my GFS, they asked me why I knew the creep.

Gaijin Gigolo
03-27-12, 15:23
I spoke to her about you and she did not like your attitude. Like I said to you, You can forget about it.Haha. Prison Break got the block from my account because of his attitude too. Suggest you set his profile to ignore too.

Gangles
03-27-12, 15:41
No problems for sad faced WC.

I have found the pimp, Richard, exactly where he should be, hanging out at the convenience store on Palaez. And he brought Shiela (pronounced Shella) to me. I had already hitched up with Miss K, SW girl, so I did not need Shiela's services. But I paid her ST fine and we went to have something to eat in McDo, while I talked with her.

I think that she had not eaten for a while, as she was totally focussed on eating, until the food was gone.

She gave me her number, and said she is happy for me to give guys her contact details. But I have texted her, with no reply. So who knows what has happened. But she is still contactable through Richard. She says that she works out at a gym regularly, and she did seem to have a real hard body. No kids. WC says she has decent tits.

So gentlemen, all is not lost.

G.


WC<- Sad face.

It begs the questions: How am I going to find the street-guy now? How will I get to the dorm girls he finds for p700 (200 for him. 500 for the girl)? How will the dorm girl tell me a sob story about how mean the street guy is, and ask me to cut him out of the equation next time? How will we cut him out, dropping the price to p600, a savings of 100 for me and an extra 100 for her? If I can't find her, how will she bring me other girls for 3-somes? If I can't find the girl or my 3-somes, how am I going to get laid by young nubiles? If I don't get laid by (lots of) young nubiles downtown Cebu: HOW THE H*LL WILL I GET ALL THOSE PICS?

Maybe its better to tear down that condo now, and put that sleazy bar back there. You don't want to upset the nature of the board, do 'ya?

WestCoast1
03-27-12, 20:11
She gave me her number, and said she is happy for me to give guys her contact details. But I have texted her, with no reply. So who knows what has happened. But she is still contactable through Richard. She says that she works out at a gym regularly, and she did seem to have a real hard body. No kids. WC says she has decent tits.

So gentlemen, all is not lost.

G.G: Tried to PM you, but your inbox is full.

Muzungufotsy
03-28-12, 01:54
Do not help this guy, I met this snake prison break and he hit up on my GFS, they asked me why I knew the creep.Oh yeah your lesbian gfs you show to everybody pretending you are a playboy.

Well you can always fool people who didn't meet you frenzy.

You are the one who told me help yourself so stop your bulshit would you?

You were just scared I got them because I m more handsome than you.

Stroker Ace88
03-28-12, 05:27
Oh yeah your lesbian gfs you show to everybody pretending you are a playboy.

Well you can always fool people who didn't meet you frenzy.

You are the one who told me help yourself so stop your bulshit would you?

You were just scared I got them because I m more handsome than you.As a rule I do not pay any attention to newbies and members with low post counts. Alot turn out to be useless ignorant losers with no respect and no manners. I like to think a members contributions over time shape who and what that person is all about, and one can generally get a good idea if another senior member is the type of guy you want to get to know and meet based on his contributions or lack thereof.

In the past I would go out of my way to help newbies and write long PM's full of advice, but no more.

I had one guy ask me a billion and one questions before his cherry trip and I answered most of them. I was in Cebu at the time and he was scheduled to arrive in a few weeks. He told me all kinds of bola that he was so grateful for the advice and he would pay for drinks and dinner when he arrives in Cebu. Whatever, I am not looking for freebies but agreed to meet. We meet and go out for a few drinks and I bought a few rounds. The guy never offered to buy me a drink and then tried to get his barfine put on my tab. When I told him to get lost he had the nerve to ask if he could borrow a few thousand pesos. I paid for my drinks and walked out on the worthless sack of donuts.

PB,

You sir are a worthless sack of donuts IMO. I met Frenzy and I was introduced to his GF's and warmly welcomed into his home. Never once did he tell me "help yourself" or anything close to that. Frenzy is a standup kind of guy and a senior member in good standing who contributes alot to ISG. You have contributed zero, nadda ziltch and just like those donuts your story is full of holes.

Muzungufotsy
03-28-12, 09:30
How did you know I love donuts? You are so smart.

GoodEnough
03-28-12, 11:30
As a rule I do not pay any attention to newbies and members with low post counts. Alot turn out to be useless ignorant losers with no respect and no manners. I like to think a members contributions over time shape who and what that person is all about, and one can generally get a good idea if another senior member is the type of guy you want to get to know and meet based on his contributions or lack thereof.Thanks for that post Stroker. You've just confirmed every bias I have against meeting those who send me PMs but who have never contributed a single substantive post. I've met a few really upstanding guys from this board, and they're all people whose posts I have read and enjoyed over the years. Conversely, I've made the mistake once or twice of meeting people who were new to the Philippines, and whom I thought I could help. It did not usually turn out well, and for that reason I now avoid such contact.

I've never met Frenzy, but I have friends who have enjoyed his company. I hope he can merely ignore the mindless, and snytatically questionable post.
GE

Member #4351
03-28-12, 15:56
I PM'd Frenzy3 after he posted his photos warning that they would attract a lot of ISG riff raff and to take care who he met up with. I'm sure that Prison Break is only one in a long line of undesirables who will hope to hustle some of Frenzy3's cuties. If Frenzy had read back on this guy´s previous posts he would have been warned off.

Questor55
03-28-12, 20:42
Guys, can we all agree NOT to give this loser any more forum space. Too often worthless time wasters are given attention. Let's just deep freeze him, okay?

JPF
03-28-12, 21:14
I met Frenzy3 (and his GFs) about a month ago and he was very gracious to me. I doubt he has much to worry about from PB "taking" his girlfriends away from him but people like him could make Frenzy wary about meeting board members as he has done in the past. That would be too bad.

Stroker Ace88
03-29-12, 00:46
Thanks for that post Stroker. You've just confirmed every bias I have against meeting those who send me PMs but who have never contributed a single substantive post. I've met a few really upstanding guys from this board, and they're all people whose posts I have read and enjoyed over the years. Conversely, I've made the mistake once or twice of meeting people who were new to the Philippines, and whom I thought I could help. It did not usually turn out well, and for that reason I now avoid such contact.

I've never met Frenzy, but I have friends who have enjoyed his company. I hope he can merely ignore the mindless, and snytatically questionable post.

GEGE,

Yes sadly I agree it's the newbies that have caused me the most problems. They want me to hold there hands, or want me to find them p*ssy and dates.

When the girls they lined up before there visit do not sleep with them or they come to the realization that the Philippines is not to there liking for whatever reason invariably it's somehow my fault. Forgetaboutit!

Tally Wacker
03-29-12, 02:02
GE,

Yes sadly I agree it's the newbies that have caused me the most problems. They want me to hold there hands, or want me to find them p*ssy and dates.

When the girls they lined up before there visit do not sleep with them or they come to the realization that the Philippines is not to there liking for whatever reason invariably it's somehow my fault. Forgetaboutit!I can understand new guys asking questions here because I was once new also. The search fuction here sucks. I still don't use it. Hey lets get to work on that ha?

New guys don't be so lazy. If you need someone to hold your hand all the way until you have a filipina pussy looking back at your face then you have serious social problems. Ask alot of questions on the board but also report back regularly on your findings. Like hotel information and prices, flight info, on the ground street reports, your mistakes made once you get there and most of all post some fukin photos. Stuff like that. Many new guys pop up, ask a few dumb questions, get shot down by a veteran member and then lash back and disapear. There are also a hand full of veteran members who like to stroke themselvs while everyone watches so I guess there are dipshits on either end of the spectrum.

PolyOrchid
03-29-12, 02:49
. for whatever reason invariably it's somehow my fault. Forgetaboutit!You just must try harder, Stroker, or they may stop calling on you. Shame, shame, eh?

Member #4351
03-29-12, 15:29
If you need someone to hold your hand all the way until you have a filipina pussy looking back at your face then you have serious social problems.Since I will be arriving in Cebu in somewhat more than a week from now, I started checking out the dating sites a couple of weeks ago. Even though I am an old, fat, bald and ugly guy with no game, I still have more than 15 cuties who want to meet me when I arrive.

Its really unbelievable that there are all these desperate guys like the ones Frenzy has to deal with, begging to be fixed up. I was I think, the first guy from the forum to actually meet Frenzy and his girls. It was clear from the start that they were "private property" in a matter of speaking. I think that Frenzy has a sadistic streak which manifests itself in his "out of bounds super cutie" photo posting.

Sammon
03-29-12, 16:05
Since I will be arriving in Cebu in somewhat more than a week from now, I started checking out the dating sites a couple of weeks ago. Even though I am an old, fat, bald and ugly guy with no game, I still have more than 15 cuties who want to meet me when I arrive.

Its really unbelievable that there are all these desperate guys like the ones Frenzy has to deal with, begging to be fixed up. I was I think, the first guy from the forum to actually meet Frenzy and his girls. It was clear from the start that they were "private property" in a matter of speaking. I think that Frenzy has a sadistic streak which manifests itself in his "out of bounds super cutie" photo posting.Hope you meet lots of girls and hope all will open their legs for you. Good luck!

While it is not difficult for anybody ugly or handsome, young or old, poor or rich not everybody has the right attitude to make the girls interested. These are not P4P girls so it takes certain kind of charm to start talking in general to get into sexual aspect. Girls play games also. Initially they come across as good church going girls even if they have met and fucked many. So you need to play the same game and put your foot down. Most of us are not into finding a girl to marry. We just want sex and ofcourse willing to take care of the girl monetarily.

By being blunt you may loose many contacts but there are always few who will agree. Nowadays most of the girls know the score. They have learned most foreigners do not committ and only wants sex. So they have learned to make money and get gifts out of the situation. Remember these are poor girls in an overcrowded country with little or no honest living opportunities. Just yesterday I was chatting with a girl who said her aunt and her cousin have a foreign bf and encouraged her to join chatting sites. This girl knew the score and immediately agreed to stay with me and have sex.

I am sure there are some desparate people who look at the pics posted by members and find out why they are not successfull in getting pretty girls. So they want somebody's help. They maybe lacking in communication skills or just lazy. Not all guys can get real pretty young nice girls. Ofcourse those willing to share will only share the ones they consider not worth keeping. Nobody will share details of the ones they plan to keep for a long time.

MangoBob68
03-30-12, 03:17
Hello all! This is my second post ever. But I'm not new to what is going on in the Philippines. I have chated hundreds of girls from a few site such as tag and cherryblossoms, and pinalove. Pinalove is good for guys who want to set up ahead of time to have someone waiting them when they travel / tour island to island. It is free and not need to pay to send messages. I read what Sammon was saying about the girls. I agree with him. What I am going to say now you will think I am stupid but try my logic. Hahahah.

I have a "gf" that I have been chating for 4 months now. She lives with her female best friend plus two female cousins. They all range in age 19 to 24. The two eldest have one kid each age 4. The others are student / mall employee. Ok. All four girls want to make me happy in bed and out. I plan to arrrive there first of May. Cebu. I will stay in their place. Enjoy the 2 to 4 some every night. THE PRICE. I set them up with a sari sari store. I wanted them to be self sufficient. Not ask me for money every month. Waiting my arrival. So I invested $300.

They are selling rice, water, BBQ, phone cards. Sun / globe + charcoal + wood plus plus. The point being they not ask me anything now. They take their profit.restock and then pay their expenses to live. Ok! You think I am stupid to advance. Yes, I am making a gamble. But you know! What would we do with that $300. 3 star hotel cost us 2000 pesos a night.

Pay to fuck is what $20 to 30 minimum per night? Look how fast we spend $300 here at home! My friend pays $100 to fuck in China per night.

My point is the girls "love me" that I help them stand on their own feet, put the two babies in kindergaten, the woman are happy, productive and they say, they appreciate me and they are very eager to show how much when I arrive. So that is my investment to have romance, sex, care waiting me. Yes, I know we should not send money to girl on the net but after a time. Chating, cam. We do what we do. One more point. They are setting aside 25% of the profits as my share and will give me when I arrive.

My last point. If we show some true interest in them. Their situation. The girl most likely will do all you want. She does not want to loose you. I don't want to support a girl or a few girls all the time. I not want to pay and pay for their foods, or clothes or school. So this is how I solved it for the long term because I plan to keep returning to these sweet sexy girls.

If they ask me for something I say, use some of your profit."ask" the shop for money" hahahahahaha. Not me. If you plan just a sex tour then my way is not for you. I just suggest for the guy who visits often and can be happy with his own small group of sex young woman. Good luck to all in your search.

Frenchmen
03-30-12, 04:46
@MangoBob68.

Sounds like a plan, please keep us posted with the outcome.

Stroker Ace88
03-30-12, 06:06
Hello, all! This is my second post ever. But I'm not new to what is going on in the Philippines. I have chated hundreds of girls from a few site such as tag and cherryblossoms, and pinalove. Pinalove is good for guys who want to set up ahead of time to have someone waiting them when they travel / tour island to island. It is free and not need to pay to send messages. I read what Sammon was saying about the girls. I agree with him. What I am going to say now you will think I am stupid but try my logic. Hahahah.

I have a "gf" that I have been chating for 4 months now. She lives with her female best friend plus two female cousins. They all range in age 19 to 24. The two eldest have one kid each age 4. The others are student / mall employee. Ok. All four girls want to make me happy in bed and out. I plan to arrrive there first of May. Cebu. I will stay in their place. Enjoy the 2 to 4 some every night. THE PRICE. I set them up with a sari sari store. I wanted them to be self sufficient. Not ask me for money every month. Waiting my arrival. So I invested $300.

[SNIP]If they ask me for something I say, use some of your profit."ask" the shop for money" hahahahahaha. Not me. If you plan just a sex tour then my way is not for you. I just suggest for the guy who visits often and can be happy with his own small group of sex young woman. Good luck to all in your search.You left out one important piece of info, is this your first trip to the Philippines?

Sending money in advance of your trip to someone you have never met is risky at best. You should take what's said in chat with a grain of salt when she insists they will cater to your every sexual desire. Sometimes its real but alot of times it bola. YMMV.

Hope things for you do not end up like one guy at NAIA a few months back. He went bananas when his online GF didn't show up to meet him and he realized she scammed him. Guy was crushed.

Mc Don
03-30-12, 07:51
Hello, all! This is my second post ever. But I'm not new to what is going on in the Philippines. I have chated hundreds of girls from a few site such as tag and cherryblossoms, and pinalove. Pinalove is good for guys who want to set up ahead of time to have someone waiting them when they travel / tour island to island. It is free and not need to pay to send messages. I read what Sammon was saying about the girls. I agree with him. What I am going to say now you will think I am stupid but try my logic. Hahahah.

I have a "gf" that I have been chating for 4 months now. She lives with her female best friend plus two female cousins. They all range in age 19 to 24. The two eldest have one kid each age 4. The others are student / mall employee. Ok. All four girls want to make me happy in bed and out. I plan to arrrive there first of May. Cebu. I will stay in their place. Enjoy the 2 to 4 some every night. THE PRICE. I set them up with a sari sari store. I wanted them to be self sufficient. Not ask me for money every month. Waiting my arrival. So I invested $300.

They are selling rice, water, BBQ, phone cards. Sun / globe + charcoal + wood plus plus. The point being they not ask me anything now. They take their profit. Restock and then pay their expenses to live. Ok! You think I am stupid to advance. Yes, I am making a gamble. But you know! What would we do with that $300. 3 star hotel cost us 2000 pesos a night.

Pay to fuck is what $20 to 30 minimum per night? Look how fast we spend $300 here at home! My friend pays $100 to fuck in China per night.

My point is the girls "love me" that I help them stand on their own feet, put the two babies in kindergaten, the woman are happy, productive and they say, they appreciate me and they are very eager to show how much when I arrive. So that is my investment to have romance, sex, care waiting me. Yes, I know we should not send money to girl on the net but after a time. Chating, cam. We do what we do. One more point. They are setting aside 25% of the profits as my share and will give me when I arrive.

My last point. If we show some true interest in them. Their situation. The girl most likely will do all you want. She does not want to loose you. I don't want to support a girl or a few girls all the time. I not want to pay and pay for their foods, or clothes or school. So this is how I solved it for the long term because I plan to keep returning to these sweet sexy girls.

If they ask me for something I say, use some of your profit."ask" the shop for money" hahahahahaha. Not me. If you plan just a sex tour then my way is not for you. I just suggest for the guy who visits often and can be happy with his own small group of sex young woman. Good luck to all in your search.Unless you have left out PLENTY of details to keep it short all I am going to say to you is LOL. $300 is 12 000 peso more or less. If you think that is sufficient to start a sari sari store you have rocks in your head.

Red Kilt
03-30-12, 09:54
. .

Hope things for you do not end up like one guy at NAIA a few months back. He went bananas when his online GF didn't show up to meet him and he realized she scammed him. Guy was crushed.Stroker has already alerted you (MangoBob) to the possibility that things in the real world may NOT turn out to be as they seem via the internet but for your sake I hope it is all as good as it seems.

I truly hope it turns out to be fantastic for you, but my caution to you would be to watch out for jealous pinoys on the sidelines. Our friend Frenzy has managed to beat this potential "problem" but you might walk into it unwittingly.

I would be most concerned about the possibility that out of the 4 women who live together that at least one if not more has a boyfriend (or an ex-husband) hanging around somewhere and I would also guess that if they are all attractive then there will be a few "suitors" around also who may not feel well-disposed towards the foreigner who swans in with a fistful of dollars to woo all 4 hearts both in the bed and outside of it.

Just be wary of that possibility.

Paulr1950
03-30-12, 14:24
Hi any guys coming next week, that ayala will be closed those 2 days, I am not sure about other malls or IT PARK yet I will try and find out, this is in cebu

Sammon
03-30-12, 16:13
Hello, all! This is my second post ever. But I'm not new to what is going on in the Philippines. I have chated hundreds of girls from a few site such as tag and cherryblossoms, and pinalove. Pinalove is good for guys who want to set up ahead of time to have someone waiting them when they travel / tour island to island. It is free and not need to pay to send messages. I read what Sammon was saying about the girls. I agree with him. What I am going to say now you will think I am stupid but try my logic. Hahahah.

I have a "gf" that I have been chating for 4 months now. She lives with her female best friend plus two female cousins. They all range in age 19 to 24. The two eldest have one kid each age 4. The others are student / mall employee. Ok. All four girls want to make me happy in bed and out. I plan to arrrive there first of May. Cebu. I will stay in their place. Enjoy the 2 to 4 some every night. THE PRICE. I set them up with a sari sari store. I wanted them to be self sufficient. Not ask me for money every month. Waiting my arrival. So I invested $300.

They are selling rice, water, BBQ, phone cards. Sun / globe + charcoal + wood plus plus. The point being they not ask me anything now. They take their profit. Restock and then pay their expenses to live. Ok! You think I am stupid to advance. Yes, I am making a gamble. But you know! What would we do with that $300. 3 star hotel cost us 2000 pesos a night.

Pay to fuck is what $20 to 30 minimum per night? Look how fast we spend $300 here at home! My friend pays $100 to fuck in China per night.

My point is the girls "love me" that I help them stand on their own feet, put the two babies in kindergaten, the woman are happy, productive and they say, they appreciate me and they are very eager to show how much when I arrive. So that is my investment to have romance, sex, care waiting me. Yes, I know we should not send money to girl on the net but after a time. Chating, cam. We do what we do. One more point. They are setting aside 25% of the profits as my share and will give me when I arrive.

My last point. If we show some true interest in them. Their situation. The girl most likely will do all you want. She does not want to loose you. I don't want to support a girl or a few girls all the time. I not want to pay and pay for their foods, or clothes or school. So this is how I solved it for the long term because I plan to keep returning to these sweet sexy girls.

If they ask me for something I say, use some of your profit."ask" the shop for money" hahahahahaha. Not me. If you plan just a sex tour then my way is not for you. I just suggest for the guy who visits often and can be happy with his own small group of sex young woman. Good luck to all in your search.All I want to ask you is, have you already made a trip and fucked all these willing foursome? Have you stayed in their place? Are they friendly as to fuck whever you want and with whoever you want?

Or is it just on the planning and building castles in the air Phase?

A well stocked sari sari store costs around 20, 000 pesos in a decent location. In a poor section it is possible to open one with 12, 000 pesos. Most sari sari store owners sleep and live in the store itself because of robberies. Ever see a sari sari store with steel frames all around? Do not expect them to give you a share of their profits. If you ask there will always be a sad story.

Let me tell you one thing. Many girls I have dated and chatted wanted to start business with my help. One gf I gave 20, 000 pesos to open a farm store selling anything from fertilizer to feed. She ran it well for a year and slacked off and lost everything. During that year I did not have to support her her with any money. She had lots of excuses why business failed. Anything from she gave things on credit who failed to pay to supply problems.

Last I heard is she is conning a Korean guy who promised to open a sari sari store for her. Pretty girl from Southern leyte.

Yes, it is cheaper to have sex with non pro girlfriends. I usually have 3-4 girls staying with me during my visit, ofcourse not at the same time. Never stayed in their place anytime. One soon to be nurse wanted me to stay with her in quezon city. After looking at her place which is pretty basic with no air con decided better stay in the hotel. She suggested to get her a air con which will cost the same as staying in a hotel for few nights. I declined because I prefer hotels. All my girlfriends have taken care of me sexually very well, so no complaints. I am not missing anything compared to bargirl with their attitudes etc. Only problem is after few visits I loose interest with the same women and always want new conquests.

I do the same thing nowadays. I have not had sex with a P4P girl for a long time.

Gaijin Gigolo
03-30-12, 18:40
Hi any guys coming next week, that ayala will be closed those 2 days, I am not sure about other malls or IT PARK yet I will try and find out, this is in cebuThanks for the heads up on that. I plan to be in town the end of next week. Do you know if the other malls will be closed as well?

MangoBob68
03-30-12, 20:31
Hello, gentlemen, special thanks to Sammon, Red kilt, Frenchman, Storker Ace 88 and Mc Don for your comments. I appreciate your views.

No, this is not my first trip more like my 30th. Lost count since first coming to the Philippines starting back in 1995. Yes, I know all the scams and excuses about asking money. I know these girls not really "love me" but I hope I am treated well and make me happy. If not. Move on to the next!

About the sari sari store. It it in neighborhood in lapu lapu. It is part of their home (two cement house enclosed with fence and iron gate). One can put any kind of money into starting a sari sari store. I gave these girls enough to buy foods for themselves and basic needs. Not go shopping at the mall.

The "leader" who I talk to every day. Says I will be so proud of them when I see their "place" I don't have any high expectations. If they are cheating me. My stupid loss of 300 to 400 dollars. I have a list of phone numbers of many other girls willing to meet me in cebu and a few other places if my investment falls flat.

BUT yes, you guys make a great point to be careful of the pinoys hanging around. Yeah. These girls are good lookers and yes, I am sure guys checking them out all the time wanting to play. And yes, here comes me moving in with these viva hot babes!. Can be risky. I am thinking very careful of that. If I not feel safe I'll stay in the hotel or split the time. Anyway you are right.

The two girls with kids said their bf left them when they got pregnant 4 years ago and claim no one since them. But I not believe it. Second the other two say they were dumped by their cheating pinoy bf and they not want pinoy anymore. Yes. I not totally believe that as well.

So I will first arrive in manila May 3. I stay in malate. I like the orchid garden suites hotel on ocampo and harrison. Been staying there every visit since 2005.

I use to teach English in China from 2005-2009 and take my vacations in the Philippines.

I spend most my time in bacolod at the palmas del mar hotel. I really recommend this place. Check their website. The rooms are reasonable and the grounds with 3 pool and two jacuzzis are great.

I used cherryblossom to find "dates" in bacolod before I arrive. Last post I mentioned a few sites. One I forgot to add is date in asia. You can send free messages to girls without paying for membership.

I don't claim to be smart in all my actions. I have made many mistakes but I like to share one "sick" think I did but at the time I thought I was being clever. Hahahaha.

There were 3 girls who all claimed they "loved me" and cannot wait to meet me and do all for me. I wanted to find which one is the most truthful.

All three girls knew when I was coming and how long I stay- but what I do is give each girl 7 to 10 days different of my arrival. I tell girl #1 I arrive may 1, girl #2 arrive may 10 and girl #3 arrive may 20. That way they feel special being the first and only girl I am meeting. Yeah! I am bad. Moving on to my story.

I met these girls in cherryblossoms. So what I did to test their sincerity. I created a fake profile fake photos, called my self Josh a younger and more handsome guy than the real me. Hahahaha- and wrote these girls.and flirted with them. Saying I would come a few days in advance of the real me. And staying longer than the real me. I asked them if they would stay with me during my visit. They all said yes. I asked if they had anyone serious. They all said NO! I asked if they were planning to meet anyone else. They all said NO! I asked what if a chatmate arrived and wanted to meet you what you say, they say I found my man. I am busy!

So all three girls who professed their love and faithfulness and only meet me were just lying. Hahahahahahah.

So what did I learn."Early cock catches the pussy"

I cannot blame them. I just smile and shake my head. These girls are so desperate for the first "nice" guy to come along and take care of them. Crazy

Hope I not bore you.

Bottom line. I will report the results of my May visit. If I failed I tell you and if I ended up in heaven I share that. Add photos of the girls.

One last thing. I am 68 zero love life while back here at home. So lets see what happens this trip. Having 4 sexy babes at one time is a lottery winning dream for a LOLO guy like me. One last note. I am saving up my monthly allotment of viagra. Ahahahahah I think I will need it this trip.

Take care gentleman. Salamat for all your advice.

Stroker Ace88
03-30-12, 22:06
Unless you have left out PLENTY of details to keep it short all I am going to say to you is LOL. $300 is 12 000 peso more or less. If you think that is sufficient to start a sari sari store you have rocks in your head.
Stroker has already alerted you (MangoBob) to the possibility that things in the real world may NOT turn out to be as they seem via the internet but for your sake I hope it is all as good as it seems.

I truly hope it turns out to be fantastic for you, but my caution to you would be to watch out for jealous pinoys on the sidelines. Our friend Frenzy has managed to beat this potential "problem" but you might walk into it unwittingly.

I would be most concerned about the possibility that out of the 4 women who live together that at least one if not more has a boyfriend (or an ex-husband) hanging around somewhere and I would also guess that if they are all attractive then there will be a few "suitors" around also who may not feel well-disposed towards the foreigner who swans in with a fistful of dollars to woo all 4 hearts both in the bed and outside of it.

Just be wary of that possibility.Mangobob68,

Some good advice provided, you should think twice about staying with them. You lose all control of the situation when you are in there house and you present yourself as an east target to local BF's who will not be very pleased you have moved in on there turf.

If you are a kuripot traveller and you are staying with the women to avoid having to pay a hotel 2-3000p+ a night IMO it will cost you MORE in the long run to stay with them. Request for rice and food shopping and bill payments will be coming your way and if you refuse to pay for expenses they will kick your ass out that's for sure. If they want to teach your kuripot ass a lesson they might pull a scam on you to lighten the load on your wallet. It will be four local women versus the word of one foreigner. Good luck with that one buddy.

MangoBob68
03-30-12, 22:17
Sammon. I just wanted to say I really admire you technique acquiring 10 woman in one week. In the past I was lucky to get 3 not for pay woman on a 21 days visa! Hahaha.

For a guy age 68 as me. I try looking for separated woman. I am not wanting to marry. Plus there are many nice cute girls with a child who where dumped by their bf who are looking for sincere guy. Once these girls have a kid. It is near impossible for them to get a husband. But easy to get a boyfriend who will most likely "knock" them up again and leave him.

This may surprise a lot of us foreign vistors but a lot of these girls wish they had the money for abortion. Not go to term after their husband or bf left them.

I have been told a student can pay 3000 pesos for abortion. NOT hospital but by a midwife. Risky but I hear many do it.

I use to be a peace corp volunteer and retired teacher. So part of me wants to help some of the girls I am attracted to. I wish to help them be self sufficient not have to look for anyones help. That is one big reason I invested in them.

Yes, I have been asked to send a lap top with cam so they can chat me every day and show me their body!. I would never be stupid enough to do that.

Yes, I get asked to send them money to buy cell phone with cam. Send money to pay for private net room so they can show me their body.

Especially after a typhoon I get asked for money to repair their home. One woman in past said she lost her job because a typhoon damaged the business. On my last trip I went to the store she said damaged in Cebu. You guessed it. Never damaged.

I know of young girls who are made by their mothers to chat old guys like me. Leading to sending money for school.

So we all must be careful. Try to use good judgement.

I usually say," I will help you once I get there and we meet" . I don't say what I really thinking. Which is once I fucked you 10 to 20 times then I will help you.

Ok maybe 20 times is an exaggeration. Some wise guy out there would say 10 is too much for a viagra chewing guy like me.

When are you returning to Philippines and would you ever decide to settle for one good woman or a threesome to satisfy your daily needs. Meaning stick just to those two woman. Stop your searching?

Take care.

Mango bob

MangoBob68
03-30-12, 22:26
Thanks Stoker Ace88,

You could very well be right. My word against the four if things go side ways. I am glad to get a different perspective. I will stay in hotel when I get to cebu. I am thinking the days hotel mactan island or cleverlearn or the lancaster hotel. I use to stay at the cebu grand hotel in past visits.

I will then check out the "situation" with the chica babes. One step at a time. Until your advice I was ready to jump in the frying pan thinking for the best but no longer. Again thanks to be frank.

Stroker Ace88
03-30-12, 22:34
Hi any guys coming next week, that ayala will be closed those 2 days, I am not sure about other malls or IT PARK yet I will try and find out, this is in cebuAyala and most other malls will be closed April 5th and 6th to observe Holy Week and Good Friday. This happens every year and is in no way breaking news.

Frenzy3
04-01-12, 02:05
I just logged back on, thanks for the support guys. I normally would not air my dirty laundry in public, but people need to be warned about the guy PB, I told him the first time he contacted my GFS they where not interested, and he still tried after I told him I knew what he was doing, PB also made friends with another visitor to cebu and lied about what happened, that same guy was also a prick picking up trash from the street. I know girls who want p4p who are not trash, but I never pimp out my GF's as you guys have seen I would be rich if I could.

The things guys need to know going forward if the guy is rude in any posts or PM, expect to meet and find out the guys are bitter prick's. It funny how PB referred to my looks so did the other prick on a post in another board. One thing guys need to know it is your attitude that goes along way here, try and be a tough wannabe gangster, expect trash and flees. Be nice and honest and yo meet the nicest girls in PI, and some will even sleep with you if you are lucky.

Boomer085
04-01-12, 04:37
I'll be in Cebu this May too, I'll buy you a round of beer MB. I wish you luck.

Aussie Jo
04-01-12, 05:13
Be nice and honest and yo meet the nicest girls in PI, and some will even sleep with you if you are lucky.Absolutely. I'm an infrequent visitor to Cebu but have quickly learned to admire that the city has to offer with patience and kindness. Treat others with respect and things happen for the good.

Keep up the good work Mr Frenzy3.

Stroker Ace88
04-01-12, 06:05
I just logged back on, thanks for the support guys.Welcome back Frenzy.

Stroker Ace88
04-01-12, 06:59
[SNIP]This may surprise a lot of us foreign vistors but a lot of these girls wish they had the money for abortion. Not go to term after their husband or bf left them.IHO I do not think when a filipina woman gets preggy she wishes she had an abortion. I think there will be a few weeks of shame and difficulty when the woman has to face her family and tell her BF, but that passes quickly and most families accept without too many problems.

It's common for a young woman to find herself preggy but it's also common for the BF to hang around until the baby is born when the requests for support and baby items begin. Then he might consider the easy way out and find someone new. At that point when she realizes the guy has indeed left her and has gone off to find someone else she MIGHT have regret and thoughts of how her life MIGHT have turned out different if she had an abortion. I think it's stretching things when you say "ALOT" of them wish they had an abortion. More likely they are trying every conceivable thing to find a way closer to your heart and wallet by 'making stories' as it's called.


I use to be a peace corp volunteer and retired teacher. So part of me wants to help some of the girls I am attracted to. I wish to help them be self sufficient not have to look for anyones help. That is one big reason I invested in them.Umm, I think a better word would be 'donate' instead of "invest". Invest means there is an expectation of a return, and since you are yet to meet them and get into there panties it's a pure donation, but I'm sure you know that already. I do think since you sent them money they will meet you and spend time with you, so they can try to get more money and gifts from you.


Yes, I get asked to send them money to buy cell phone with cam. Send money to pay for private net room so they can show me their body.Cebu City has a ban on netcafes that have private rooms equipped with webcams since some camgirls were caught showing there coochie on cam in one awhile back. Any woman that asks you for money so she can rent a private booth with webcam is scamming you or she is not located around Cebu City.

Aussie Jo
04-02-12, 05:33
I usually say," I will help you once I get there and we meet" . I don't say what I really thinking. Which is once I fucked you 10 to 20 times then I will help you.Hey Mango, just never send money or anything in advance. Matter of fact, you can be reasonably certain those asking for $$$ up front are trying it on and unlikely to meet you anyway. Delete away even if you have invested a few weeks chatting them up.

Boomer085
04-02-12, 07:25
Access now is easier compared to last time in IRC or yahoo. Sites like DIA are just so stacked. But what I noticed though is that so many of them are scammers. Even the ones who I already sent money had their FB, chatted on Cam, received pics and etc. Its hard to be so un attached to what you feel but sometimes I think this is just what is needed.

BTW look at DIA theres a couple of profiles who talk about the river of hangzhou, different pictures and account but most probably ran by an internet script kiddie or a ladyboy. There should be a scammers list here somewhere.

Gaijin Gigolo
04-02-12, 13:21
Ayala and most other malls will be closed April 5th and 6th to observe Holy Week and Good Friday. This happens every year and is in no way breaking news.Did anybody suggest it was breaking news? Not everybody happens to live in Cebu and would know that, prick.

Red Kilt
04-02-12, 13:30
Did anybody suggest it was breaking news? Not everybody happens to live in Cebu and would know that, prick.It's actually the same all over the Philippines.

Malls will be closed on April 5 and 6. Pretty much everything closes down.

Cuchulain
04-03-12, 21:28
I remember everything closed on good Friday. But Saturday. Half open and easter Sunday everything open. In america everything closed on easter Sunday only. Anyone confirm.

QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1264487]It's actually the same all over the Philippines.

Malls will be closed on April 5 and 6. Pretty much everything closes down.[/QUOTE]

Gangles
04-04-12, 19:27
I have a somewhat different perception re young pregnany pinays.

First, they tend to be very expert at trading their virginity, and later pussy, for promises of marriage. I have been along this route, and the girl will hold out, legs firmly clamped together, with the offer to open up if I / he promises to marry her. Then eventually he caves in, they sex away, and she becomes pregnant. She knows that they are not yet married. She knows that sexing sans contraception means pregnancy, but she does it any way. I know one couple very well who did marry once she became pregnant, but only one. They are both very well educated, and both very respectable.

Second, it would be very rare for any pinoy lad to marry a woman without the consent of his family. Indeed, it is often the case that the family will arrange the marriage. It is my understanding that once the guy tells his family that she is pregnant, the family will decide quickly if he is going to marry her or not. Even if he wants to, they will force him to marry another woman. Often you will hear her say, after the bit that he ran away, that he is married to another woman. I know of one such woman in this situation. She is gorgeous, and I think that he was interested to marry her, but the family put up a communications wall / embargo, and they are not married.

Third, single pinay with kids are not unusual, and the family generally accepts the kid in time. However, one woman that I know well fell pregnant to a Korean guy, he took off, and her family has persecuted her ever since. She leads a life of miserable survival in the family house outside Cebu. I also know of a woman who had 8 kids by different fathers. Then she met a German guy, telling him that she had 4 kids. They married, and she is now in Germany. 8 kids. Wow.

For what it is worth.

G.


IHO I do not think when a filipina woman gets preggy she wishes she had an abortion. I think there will be a few weeks of shame and difficulty when the woman has to face her family and tell her BF, but that passes quickly and most families accept without too many problems.

It's common for a young woman to find herself preggy...

Member #4351
04-09-12, 00:44
Attention all forum members who will be in Cebu this Fri. You are invited to another ISG 'Free Lunch' with no strings attached. Meet up with some revered local forum members for good conversation and good food. In order to attend the lucky Friday the 13th lunch, PM me soon, because space is limited. We will get together at 10:30 in order to eat at 12:00. I realize that this entails getting up at the 'crack of dawn' for some, but I'm sure you'll find it worthwhile. Its FREE!

Redman69
04-09-12, 16:26
Attention all forum members who will be in Cebu this Fri. You are invited to another ISG 'Free Lunch' with no strings attached. Meet up with some revered local forum members for good conversation and good food. In order to attend the lucky Friday the 13th lunch, PM me soon, because space is limited. We will get together at 10:30 in order to eat at 12:00. I realize that this entails getting up at the 'crack of dawn' for some, but I'm sure you'll find it worthwhile. Its FREE!David I am not getting in till the 18th of April late. And will be in cebi the 2nd untill the 5th of May. I would love to meet up and chip in on the meal and all. Hope we can do something then. I will pm a couple of guys that I am in then. And will have a phone by the 19th. I hope things work out with a favorita and I spend the first week of 19 days along the northern cebu coast line. Then back to the city where she has work study. Will post of the board when there.

Member #4351
04-09-12, 21:17
I would love to meet up and chip in on the meal and all.No need for anyone to chip in, that's why its called the "ISG Free Lunch", but thanks for the offer. Anyway I'll still be around when you are here as will a lot of the other guys, no problem in meeting up maybe for coffee at the Ayala Mall Bo's or whatever.

Col Law
04-11-12, 10:51
i arrived on the 4th, so far have been meeting new dia friends and old and new. and all have been forthcoming in looking after my sexual needs, yippeee but as the women / girls i like 18-25 years old they struggle to give a nice gentle blow job, it seems as though thet all think a little nibble of the bell end is good ouch ouch they need more lessons but total gfe cim without question. sorry there is nothing new but it is my experiance this time around so far.

Col Law
04-13-12, 09:42
Just went to the meet up at the Marriott hotel with David 33, a very enjoyable good morning especially being able now to put handles to faces, to all the gents present thanks for the shared wisdom and good company

(p. S. She came back not a ladyboy)

Frenzy3
04-13-12, 14:26
Thanks david33 for a fantastic lunch, it was also great to meet Cole and the rest of boys, this is what I picked up today

Poolmover
04-13-12, 15:50
I'm in cebu April 21 or 22 for 6 days, waterfront, for my second time. Dia and pinalove seem to have plenty of offers, and my spreadsheet line-up is pretty full at 2 / day with backups, but if there are new recommended local talent spots to visit, not yet in the RTFF here, kindly let me know. It would also be interesting to here from a veteran (but young at heart of course) ISG-er also.

Can't wait for the crack of dawn!

Thanks. My pm is open.

And yes. Ill pick up my handcuffs there rather than bring them over the big big pond.

PM

MrGentleLover
04-13-12, 17:28
i arrived on the 4th, so far have been meeting new dia friends and old and new. and all have been forthcoming in looking after my sexual needs, yippeee but as the women / girls i like 18-25 years old they struggle to give a nice gentle blow job, it seems as though thet all think a little nibble of the bell end is good ouch ouch they need more lessons but total gfe cim without question. sorry there is nothing new but it is my experiance this time around so far.will be there next week, also hope to meet a few dia friends (lol,)

Wicked Roger
04-14-12, 02:22
Just went to the meet up at the Marriott hotel with David 33, a very enjoyable good morning especially being able now to put handles to faces, to all the gents present thanks for the shared wisdom and good company

(p. S. She came back not a ladyboy) Another thanks from me also. Was a fun lunch, good company and food. And the host was very generous so hard luck to those who did not come.

CL glad she was not a LB (for your sake!)

See everyone soon

PolyOrchid
04-14-12, 04:24
Was a fun lunch, good company and food. And the host was very generous so hard luck to those who did not come.Sounds like a good time was missed. A rogue's gallery perhaps.

Sxxxx
04-18-12, 07:32
There are no specific calendar to see when they need money. If the opportunity is there irrespective of if they need money for tuition, rent or whatever they are ready. .I agree, talking about certain time for school fees, rent etc is just hokus pokus. They need money all the time.

Wicked Roger
04-18-12, 17:43
I agree, talking about certain time for school fees, rent etc is just hokus pokus. They need money all the time.Tutition fees will be due in May so be aware of that. Semester starts June so enrollment fees will be requested soon.

Sumart
04-19-12, 20:23
I had a few days (in holy week) for fun in Cebu. Prepared myself in DIA finding contacts and phone numbers. So when I arrived had about 50 contacts.

Bought a local SIM card and texted the girls. It is not always easy since the girls often change phone numbers or have multiple numbers for the different carriers. So sometimes the girls replied on a different number.

Anyway had a few appointments a day. I choose an additional room in Tune Hotel just next to Ayala. The good think about Tune Hotel is the closeness to Ayala (all girls know that place) , a short 'transfer time' when meeting in Ayala, the mirrors and that you don't have to pass the reception to go to your room. The bad thing is that you have to pay extra for your towels and for Aircon.

Most of the time the girls were undressed after a couple of minutes after entering the room and enjoyed sex as much as I did. If I wanted, I could fuck all of them without condom. All performed BBBJ with CIM. In contacting them I didn't mention sex, but said that I hope we can make each other happy. So for all of them it was clear that our meeting would lead to sex.

In 4 days I met 8 different girls. All came to my room, some even met me there. Only one stepped back after already getting naked, all other provided sex. One was an complete newbie and had only the second time in her life sex.

I just took pics when I felt that it could be accepted. All agreed but asked me not to post in the internet. To keep their privacy I have to cut their faces.

All would do it without getting money but appreciated my 'taxi money' and were so happy about the gifts I brought them.

Cebu is really a great mongering city. Some girls were so disappointed that I could not meet them. All wanted to see me again.

Member #4147
04-22-12, 13:09
It seems one of our members has taken it upon himself to make my handle and this site known to a GF I have been supporting thru college!

I really want to say who it is.

And I have left him a message.

What say the members here?

Member #4351
04-22-12, 15:52
It is unfortunate that some forum members think they will gain points with girls by this kind of behavior. It is loathsome and I think the guilty party should be identified.

Wicked Roger
04-22-12, 16:20
It seems one of our members has taken it upon himself to make my handle and this site known to a GF I have been supporting thru college!

I really want to say who it is.

And I have left him a message.

What say the members here?Just posted this on the other thread also.

UP.

We have known each other a long time, and I know your gf also. A real keeper.

And we know who did this so best mention his handle and ask why he acted like an asshole. Maybe because he wants her for himself and this way he proves you the bad man.

David33 would have more views on that aspect as the guy is very likely doing this for purely self serving reason and not for anything else.

If he bothers to have the courage to FR here then be interested to hear his view as most of those who do this get flamed badly for their acts.

Sorry to hear that it may not be all nice now with the gf but talk to her and see what she says.

And the ISG member. I know who you are but will let UP disclose and see if you any 'balls' to respond intelligently and in a rationale manner.

Rant over. UP enjoy Cebu

Frenzy3
04-22-12, 19:54
It seems one of our members has taken it upon himself to make my handle and this site known to a GF I have been supporting thru college!

I really want to say who it is.

And I have left him a message.

What say the members here?Post his handle here, and hope he gets banned, it would be good if we could weed out guys like this..

I had my run in with a few guys here already I only named one so far

Aussie Jo
04-23-12, 05:01
All would do it without getting money but appreciated my 'taxi money' and were so happy about the gifts I brought them.Thanks for the report (s) Sumart. Glad to see you had a good time.

I have a theory on the girls in Taxis. When they are on their way to visit us and they are running late, I think it is because they are taking jeepney instead of taxi. Same when they leave, promising to take a taxi home but it is much better financially that they catch jeepney to / from but we pay the taxi rate.

I am so looking forward to getting back to Cebu. My age filters are all whacked now. In other countries I search the dating sites with the girls ages set 40-40. When in Cebu I get to trest the filters to 20-25. So nice and soft.

AJ

Buko Max
04-24-12, 11:20
In contacting them I didn't mention sex, but said that I hope we can make each other happy. So for all of them it was clear that our meeting would lead to sex.Thank you Sumart for filing a FR with photos! This is a good strategy because most Cebuanas find it uncomfortable talking about sex before meeting for the first time. If they like you, sex is a given!

Azil
04-25-12, 03:00
BTW look at DIA theres a couple of profiles who talk about the river of hangzhou, different pictures and account but most probably ran by an internet script kiddie or a ladyboy. There should be a scammers list here somewhere.Dragonladies. Org is a good source for info on scammers.

Mbsl65
04-25-12, 03:58
For some reason I see no reason to have a separate forum for Cebu. Can we go back to the old style?

Stroker Ace88
04-25-12, 07:06
For some reason I see no reason to have a separate forum for Cebu. Can we go back to the old style?Hmm that's kind of like the Two Girls One Cup routine di ba? Once it comes out of the hole and into the cup it's not going back in without alot of shit being spread around.

Personally I like the new format but YMMV.

Bulik
05-03-12, 04:51
Hello all,

Was in Cebu last week for a few days visiting friends. I went to Ayala mall just to waste some time and enjoy the eye candy when low and behold a foreigner comes up and strikes a conversation with me, it didn't take me long to see where the conversation was going, he actually asked me for money and then later that day another foreigner came up to me and asked for money as well. After 18 years of living in PI, it was a first for me. Many locals ask for money, but this caught me off guard. Anyway, I seen alot of hotties there and several approached me but I wasn't looking at the time. So I would say Ayala is a good hunting ground. Just beware of the white guys asking for money.

Paulr1950
05-03-12, 10:00
Hi, meant to be big development on the area of land around sunflower disco which is now closed, not sure hotel or what, but all the places in there will be closed and demolished in the next month or too, tonyaromas and the convenience shop as well, have to find another spot to pick up?

Stroker Ace88
05-03-12, 23:34
Hello all,

Was in Cebu last week for a few days visiting friends. I went to Ayala mall just to waste some time and enjoy the eye candy when low and behold a foreigner comes up and strikes a conversation with me, it didn't take me long to see where the conversation was going, he actually asked me for money and then later that day another foreigner came up to me and asked for money as well. After 18 years of living in PI, it was a first for me. Many locals ask for money, but this caught me off guard. Anyway, I seen alot of hotties there and several approached me but I wasn't looking at the time. So I would say Ayala is a good hunting ground. Just beware of the white guys asking for money.Were they WWF (World Wildlife Fund) volunteers asking for donatations? I have spent alot of time in Ayala, never been approached by anyone other than WWF pleading for pesos (or dollars if they can get it) to save the whales. This goes for foreigners, the locals ask me occasionally.

Maybe you had that 'fresh off the plane' look and as a result some scammers targeted you. Plenty of scammers both local and foreigner abound in the Philippines and they are not shy to ask if they can 'borrow' some money from anyone they encounter. Next time it happens tell the guy to get a job and point to the local McDo or Jollibee, and include "I work for my money why can't you?" If the guy comes back with some crap about losing his passport or illness tell him to go to his Consulate for help.

Gee I feel kind of slighted. Maybe I look too kuripot or poor to ask for a handout. Lmao.

Stroker Ace88
05-03-12, 23:42
Hi, meant to be big development on the area of land around sunflower disco which is now closed, not sure hotel or what, but all the places in there will be closed and demolished in the next month or too, tonyaromas and the convenience shop as well, have to find another spot to pick up?No big loss, I hated sunflower. Some good bands from time to time, and expensive for nothing. Was a crap place to meet freelancers and was going downhill the last couple of years with ladyboys and Koreans increasing in numbers.

Just wondering, where did you read about the closing? Link?

MangoBob68
05-07-12, 02:04
Hello Gentlemen, I haven't contributed anything lately and reading some of the posts I see a lot of guys line up girls from DNA.

I also found this to be a good site to send messages back and forth without paying a membership.

You all may say "where have you been" but I will add two others to the list. Pinalove is very good with info and photos of girls. One can send messages free every 10 min. Hahahaha true. A timer runs until you can send a second message."they" want you to join. Of course. Just need patience.

The other site is tagged. Also a good one and you can flirt with the girl sending her "love" and tags.

I found these to be sufficient without paying monthly membership to places like cherryblossoms and the like.

Maybe you have a good system. What I do is have three ym I'd and use one I'd with each site. I easily get confused when a girl writes back. Often the I'd they use in the website is not the same in their YM. Some girls will write back, for example, This is sally from DNA. Most of the time it is,"hi honey, can we chat"

Again, if they start with "hi honey" it probably is a gay guy! Lot of times the girl does not have a cam. So seeing them will not jog my memory. If I ask too many questions they respond and say,"oh you forgot me already or you have so many gfs.

Maybe this is a separate funny topic. When you have a lot of new contacts you cannot tell one from the other. I remember I asked this one girl which town are you in, sorry I forgot. She replied,"I'm in the Philippines" I want to jump up and down and scream! I know you are in the f. King Philippines.

I will take the blame. Most of the time I am a terrible organizer and I must chat the girl like 6 times before I remember who she is. Sad story. Maybe my mind is like a lolo guy.

I confess something else I tried. And you will probably laugh at me. But at age 68 I don't care anymore. I copy the girls photo. Paste it to a page. I will have say. 8 girls on the page and print it then write their data under the photo. The main info I write is name, age, location, and if have kid / single / separated and of course contact number. Then when I chat them in YM I refer to the "paper" and instantly know which direction to chat.

If you have had any funny experiences meeting girls on line first time or confused . Maybe you like to share them.

I'm glad to know that not just guys make mistakes. I get replies saying, Oh, Steve! I miss you so much" but I'm not steve! Hahahahahahaah

Stroker Ace88
05-07-12, 08:37
Hello Gentlemen, I haven't contributed anything lately and reading some of the posts I see a lot of guys line up girls from DNA. [SNIP]

Maybe you have a good system. What I do is have three ym I'd and use one I'd with each site. I easily get confused when a girl writes back. Often the I'd they use in the website is not the same in their YM. Some girls will write back, for example, This is sally from DNA. Most of the time it is,"hi honey, can we chat"

Again, if they start with "hi honey" it probably is a gay guy! Lot of times the girl does not have a cam. So seeing them will not jog my memory. If I ask too many questions they respond and say,"oh you forgot me already or you have so many gfs.

Maybe this is a separate funny topic. When you have a lot of new contacts you cannot tell one from the other. I remember I asked this one girl which town are you in, sorry I forgot. She replied,"I'm in the Philippines" I want to jump up and down and scream! I know you are in the f. King Philippines.

I will take the blame. Most of the time I am a terrible organizer and I must chat the girl like 6 times before I remember who she is. Sad story. Maybe my mind is like a lolo guy.

I confess something else I tried. And you will probably laugh at me. But at age 68 I don't care anymore. I copy the girls photo. Paste it to a page. I will have say. 8 girls on the page and print it then write their data under the photo. The main info I write is name, age, location, and if have kid / single / separated and of course contact number. Then when I chat them in YM I refer to the "paper" and instantly know which direction to chat.

If you have had any funny experiences meeting girls on line first time or confused. Maybe you like to share them.

I'm glad to know that not just guys make mistakes. I get replies saying, Oh, Steve! I miss you so much" but I'm not steve! HahahahahahaahMB68,

IMO no need for multiple YM's but everyone prefers things prioritized in a different way. Here is what I do.

I create seperate sections on my YM based on location; Cebu, Manila, Makati, CDO, Davao ect. I then create sub-sections based on height, weight or other impressive attributes. When you add a contact have her dating profile open and add her to the correct section. Once the contact has been added I click on her YM on my list and I open the tab "Contact Details". I open the "Notes" tab and I write in her name, age, weight, height, location, CPnumber, what dating website I met her on, dating profile number and any other info that seems important.

That system works for me. Much better to take a few minutes and add in her contact details at the begining. I agree, after awhile it can become very confusing when the YM contact list grows. If you are not organized it becomes a very frustrating experience.

Pip Jaeger
05-07-12, 17:06
MB68,

I open the "Notes" tab and I write in her name, age, weight, height, location, CPnumber, what dating website I met her on, dating profile number and any other info that seems important.

That system works for me. Much better to take a few minutes and add in her contact details at the begining. I agree, after awhile it can become very confusing when the YM contact list grows. If you are not organized it becomes a very frustrating experience.You can also left / right (I'm a lefty. So my mouse's backwards) click on the girl's YM name and review the converstion history.

I agree, it can sometimes get a bit confusing; especially if you have not chatted with the girl in a while. If I get an I'm from a girl that's not a regular chat mate, I tell her: "BRB (be right back). On the phone", and then I'll review the converstion history to refresh my memory.

Stroker Ace88
05-07-12, 19:26
You can also left / right (I'm a lefty. So my mouse's backwards) click on the girl's YM name and review the converstion history.

I agree, it can sometimes get a bit confusing; especially if you have not chatted with the girl in a while. If I get an I'm from a girl that's not a regular chat mate, I tell her: "BRB (be right back). On the phone", and then I'll review the converstion history to refresh my memory.PJ,

Using the "message archive" tab to review past chat sessions takes too much time to go back and read over and over. When chatting if anything comes up such as, job, studies, siblings, location change ect I go to the notes tab and add it to her file. Much easier to look at one small note to get all the important stats and it takes only a few seconds instead of 5-10 minutes looking at previous chat sessions.

If I do not chat with someone in awhile I will ignore and delete them. Why waste time with filipinas who are never online or we didn't click for whatever reason. I clean out my YM every few months. Everyone has a different way using technology, and to each there own. What works for one will not work for others.

MangoBob68
05-07-12, 20:41
Thanks gentlemen for your approach to organization. Stoker ace88- you really got it down. I appreciate the advice. I was just thinking about one member here who said he had like 50 contact numbers when he reached cebu. I was thinking how can he put a face to each of those numbers. Hahahahaha Maybe he does what I do when I look at number I wrote and say." well she must be ok if I brothered to write it down." Again thanks for the feed back.

Pip Jaeger
05-07-12, 21:51
PJ,

When chatting if anything comes up such as, job, studies, siblings, location change ect I go to the notes tab and add it to her file. Much easier to look at one small note to get all the important stats and it takes only a few seconds instead of 5-10 minutes looking at previous chat sessions.SA,

Yes, you are right; I bow to the master. Copying and pasting relevant info into the notes section sounds much easier as well as more time efficient.

Great tip, thanks!

Starchild2012
05-08-12, 09:08
PJ,

Using the "message archive" tab to review past chat sessions takes too much time to go back and read over and over. When chatting if anything comes up such as, job, studies, siblings, location change ect I go to the notes tab and add it to her file. Much easier to look at one small note to get all the important stats and it takes only a few seconds instead of 5-10 minutes looking at previous chat sessions.

If I do not chat with someone in awhile I will ignore and delete them. Why waste time with filipinas who are never online or we didn't click for whatever reason. I clean out my YM every few months. Everyone has a different way using technology, and to each there own. What works for one will not work for others.I agree, I divide chat mates in yahoo along Manila, Cebu, Davao and other groups and then add it on month by month. And as the chat mate gets interesting. I move them to SPECIAL category.

However, the biggest bummer is 90% of girls I'd in yahoo dies down after few months time. They rarely check. I was so sad of missing some of my best contacts. Later I found out, girls being way smarter than us. After each date and a serious encounter, the girls simply change their I'd and photos and get back on the game.

Out of curiosity, just the other day, I searched for my competition hehehe. Like how many guys there are in DIA, I was shocked to find they are in 1000's or more every given minute. And that too 90% are Filipinos in the age group of 18 to 29.

Mostly westerners, Arabs, few Indians only show up if you sort age group from 35 to 75 age group. I have only seen very few farangs in the highly sought after category of 18 to 25 age range.

Earlier, it was not the case, now it seems even Filipinos are looking for DIA contacts. Just check it out. Know thee competition and mold your style accordingly. Hehehe

Stroker Ace88
05-08-12, 18:36
[SNIP]Out of curiosity, just the other day, I searched for my competition hehehe. Like how many guys there are in DIA, I was shocked to find they are in 1000's or more every given minute. And that too 90% are Filipinos in the age group of 18 to 29.

Mostly westerners, Arabs, few Indians only show up if you sort age group from 35 to 75 age group. I have only seen very few farangs in the highly sought after category of 18 to 25 age range.

Earlier, it was not the case, now it seems even Filipinos are looking for DIA contacts. Just check it out. Know thee competition and mold your style accordingly. HeheheSC,

It's good info to "check out the competition" and see what kind of guys are online searching for filipinas. Yes there are TONS of guys online trolling for filipina tuna. Crazy part is, only a very small percentage of those guys will ever visit the Philippines. My guesstimate is around 10% or less will set foot in the Philippines. Most are net perverts looking for an online GF or simple girl they can pay for cam2cam sex while there wife is out shopping. Most of those guys will never know the pleasures some filipinas can provide in person.

Now you know why some of the filipina profiles you see on DIA sound so bitter and harsh. They have been lied to and tricked many times by guys making all kind of promises and they are tired and sick of it. I do not blame them. The one part filipinas never understand is that guys who will meet them in person do not make promises for the most part. It's the guys who stay at home that make a billion and one promises because they know they will never be called on any of it. Sad but true.

When a guy comes to meet a filipina and shows her respect and makes her feel special and takes good care of her (money, shopping or sponsor) the GFE and PSE can at times become very overwhelming and addicting (in a very good way) and it more than makes up for all the hours of online chatting or cramped up on long-haul flights.

Enjoy the Philippines.

MangoBob68
05-09-12, 00:11
Hello gentlemen, Stoker Ace 88 made an excellent point about the clientele in say DNA. I have seen more and more filipina profile messages that are near hateful. Refering to "us guys" saying stay away if you are playing games. I'm not a cam girl!" plus more AC girls saying, not every girl in Angeles is a bar girl! Yes, there are all kind of games going on.

The search becomes addictive. The hunt is more fun than the catch. It becomes part of the daily routine. Same for the ladies, they enjoy collecting. It is also entertainment for them during their day. One member made a great suggestion. Don't start your search until a few weeks before the trip. I get tired of saying the same things over and over. Answering the same questions duriing chat. I just say," tell you more when we meet face to face." or" past is past don't need to talk about it"

99% of the girls somewhere in the conversation will ask you why do you want to come to the Philippines? I usually say, look for a place to live with my one in a million honey ko. Why? Even if I not entend to live in the Philippines I want to let them know right away. Forget about coming to the USA if that is your game.

Second, it is all true. I do want to settle down with a sweet filipina. I just not say how many I have to meet before that happens.

Many woman will tell you what you want to here. They tell you how special you. Even say they love you and there are no others. They are eargerly waiting for your arrival. They can take time from work to be at your side as much as you wish.

Truth is. They go with the first nice guy who shows up because like stoker ace 88 said, most guys in the site are talkers. You cannot blame the girls. They are fishing for sweet lapu lapu just as we are fishing.

I ask you members this question. What age bracket do you find the hardest nut to crack? In my humble opinion. The 30 to 35 somethings are the toughest to catch. They are wise and experienced to our games. Hahahaha. Why do I prefer 30 plus. Because I am 68 and I really not want to be some 20 year olds lolo or papa.

Mbsl65
05-09-12, 05:55
There are couple of dirt bags hang around Bo's Cafe. Just ignore the bums and move on with the fun.


Hello all,

Was in Cebu last week for a few days visiting friends. I went to Ayala mall just to waste some time and enjoy the eye candy when low and behold a foreigner comes up and strikes a conversation with me, it didn't take me long to see where the conversation was going, he actually asked me for money and then later that day another foreigner came up to me and asked for money as well. After 18 years of living in PI, it was a first for me. Many locals ask for money, but this caught me off guard. Anyway, I seen alot of hotties there and several approached me but I wasn't looking at the time. So I would say Ayala is a good hunting ground. Just beware of the white guys asking for money.

Pute Nut
05-09-12, 17:03
Second, it is all true. I do want to settle down with a sweet filipina. I just not say how many I have to meet before that happens.Encouraging post. It's actually the same honest bola I feed them. I hope I can be still "looking forward to settle down" at 68, too.

It's really our prerogative, no need to repeat mistakes we did in SFZ.

Starchild2012
05-10-12, 05:08
SC,

Crazy part is, only a very small percentage of those guys will ever visit the Philippines. My guesstimate is around 10% or less will set foot in the Philippines. Most are net perverts looking for an online GF or simple girl they can pay for cam2cam sex while there wife is out shopping.Ok. That makes me feel better in a weird way. Not to feel inferior, but I being practical. On the name dropping list. India does not stand a chance against any western county. No matter what work you do, no matter how old you are, your education, your bank balance etc. If you tell. You from USA and I from India. The deal is done. I would mostly get the left over that western men abandon. BUT.

The biggest but is the abundance of dating women available in the PH irrespective of where you from. That was the first shock I got that I felt like a king. I was in demand as well. Hehehe unlike in Thailand where Indians are shown what they true are and not get respect at all.

Now it makes sense, how I could date so many women easily and wondered where my competition are at. Now I know, many don't show up at all hehehe.

Seems like I was unnecessarily worried and to confess, I photo shopped my pic to look extreme white to compete with other guys. Lets be practical. Not racist. No one likes darker brownish guy from India LOL and to tell you the truth. I'm getting more hits than before my original pics and some of the women that I met have told me in face. I looked very different in real than in pic. With my reply being. After coming to the PH. I got changed LOL. Once you meet them. It does not matter that much. With talk and nice dinner. You can nullify all the negatives.

Member #4351
05-10-12, 15:32
Starchild2012, another particularity that I have noticed with guys from India is their absolute refusal to be with the same girl more than once. It seems to me that you would be better off sticking with someone you get along with and who doesn't have any problem with your ethnicity, skin color and any particular body odor you might emit. Correct me if I am generalizing.

Mc Don
05-10-12, 18:57
LOL, like barba said few posts down I just love the way you see phils. You just have no idea but you plot along so credit to you. Fist of all - DIA and other dating sites, don't worry about your competiton. The truth is the early bird gets the worm 99% of the time. You get there a day before me, call the girl, set the date up and she is all yours. For most of them its all about the peso and yours is just as good as mine providing you are not an asshole. Yes I can probably outbid you but other factors come into play then. For her its about security and if she likes you why would she swap you for someone she doesnt know that may be an asshole? Also like u said with such an abandence of talent almost all of us would move on and not worry about that girl. Second why the fuck would you chat for months with a simpleton and lets face it 99% of DIA's are simple to the max? What is it that you can learn from her? Why waste your time? I turn on my profile 2-3 days before I get to phils, put down the location as the place where I will be and spend 2hrs max a day sending msgs. Within 3-4 exchanges I move the convesation to YM or skype where I see her and set up the date for the when I arive. It always works, I have even managed to get multiple dates on the same day in cebu loging on YM when I wake up around 10 am and set up a 2pm, 5pm and 9 pm date for the SAME day. Third are you serious about photoshop? Just curious LOL to me thats insane, you realise that we PAY them one way or another right? Dont sell yourself short but also make sure u have the peso to play too...

good luck

Starchild2012
05-11-12, 09:45
Starchild2012, another particularity that I have noticed with guys from India is their absolute refusal to be with the same girl more than once. It seems to me that you would be better off sticking with someone you get along with and who doesn't have any problem with your ethnicity, skin color and any particular body odor you might emit. Correct me if I am generalizing.

True, blame it on the generational conditioning that we are only suppose to be with one girl all our life. With arranged marriage and all. We feel like to rebel what society had imposed on us when we are in freeland. We rarely ever get with multiple girls back home, so its a forbidden fruit hidden charm thingy that makes us go with multiple women. Being with same women brings back horrible memories of India.


LOL, like barba said few posts down I just love the way you see phils. You just have no idea but you plot along so credit to you. Fist of all. DIA and other dating sites, don't worry about your competiton. The truth is the early bird gets the worm 99% of the time. You get there a day before me, call the girl, set the date up and she is all yours. For most of them its all about the peso and yours is just as good as mine providing you are not an asshole. Yes I can probably outbid you but other factors come into play then. For her its about security and if she likes you why would she swap you for someone she doesn't know that may be an asshole? Also like you said with such an abandence of talent almost all of us would move on and not worry about that girl. Second why the fuck would you chat for months with a simpleton and lets face it 99% of DIA's are simple to the max? What is it that you can learn from her? Why waste your time? I turn on my profile 2-3 days before I get to phils, put down the location as the place where I will be and spend 2hrs max a day sending msgs. Within 3-4 exchanges I move the convesation to YM or skype where I see her and set up the date for the when I arive. It always works, I have even managed to get multiple dates on the same day in cebu loging on YM when I wake up around 10 am and set up a 2pm. 5pm and 9 pm date for the SAME day. Third are you serious about photoshop? Just curious LOL to me thats insane, you realise that we PAY them one way or another right? Don't sell yourself short but also make sure you have the peso to play too.

Good luckI agree, However, I guess you are from west and a white guy. Hate to bring it down to racial stuff but I suppose you were never stood down on a date. I had. On my very first trip to Cebu with the very first girl. You can check my old posts. The girl showed up, looked me and turned around. I was frustrated and texted her countless times only to get reply that she did not think I was an Indian when we chatted online. Then I came to know its not only the smell but also the infamous 5-6 loan shark thing that has given Indian's a bad name in the PH.

Its not everything about money, girls too have ratings and standard to judge men. I had my ego bruised with all this, the same fate I suffered in Pattaya. But found out, its much easier to mold myself into what they like than staying same. Since, I have changed from six years back and lived in manila. Its been a bliss.

Indians are projected as good accountants, software nerds and customer service guys. Not party charming play boys. Just watch Russell Peter on youtube. We Indians always had hard time breaking into farangs turf on dating multiple women and all those good things in life. Our fate is tied to arranged marriage, having kids, looking after family, parents and then just die. What you said is true, however, if only you could be in my shoes for a day and then you could feel. How hard
it is to get laid for Indians. Yes, I had to photoshop myself. I know its bad. But I don't want to be alone in Cebu after few dates. I need constant supply of numbers to keep having good times not a roller coaster ride which I have seen a lot in my life.

Whom are we kidding. Lets face it. Asian girls love white guys and white skin. Second, they love Japanese, third Koreans. But they could easily juggle among these three. In all my travels to south east Asia. I never heard a girl say. Indians are hot, wish I could have him as my bf, I'm going to ride that hot Indian guy over there tonight. Not even in Soi 6 Pattaya. Where you guys are used to hansum man where you go calls that i would be lucky if I could get an eye contact forget about the cat calls. LOL

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Col Law
05-14-12, 11:09
should **** (under 18) girls in dia be named here or is that silly. she states 20 but when met said only 17.

Red Kilt
05-14-12, 12:56
should **** (under 18) girls in dia be named here or is that silly. she states 20 but when met said only 17.use the chat rooms and pen pals thread cl and definitely, paste their profiles all over the forum.

i support the idea that has been canvassed here that you should not post the link to a good prospect here on the open forum because there are a few lurkers and bottom dwellers here who then jump in and destroy it for everyone. much better to pm your mates if you cannot avail of it yourself or just want to share.

however, any scammer or disguised lady boy (same thing i guess) or **** one is fair game i reckon and you should tell everyone about it.

Member #4351
05-14-12, 15:30
**** one is fair game i reckon and you should tell everyone about it.ha, i postulate that this will result in her getting a ton of interests and messages. most guys aren't that worried about the age thing.

Red Kilt
05-15-12, 10:39
Ha, I postulate that this will result in her getting a ton of interests and messages. Most guys aren't that worried about the age thing.You might be right David.

Dammed if you report her (the under-age scumbags will pile in) and dammed if you don't (the unwitting naive mongers will get caught out)

Member #4351
05-15-12, 14:22
i am waiting for someone to show that a tourist was set up by an **** girl in cebu. i still think this is an urban legend. i personally have met a good number of girls who admitted that they originally joined dia when they were younger than 18. they don't care. however given that most of the girls look a lot younger than they really are, i see no real upside in meeting a 16 or 17 year old. why bother and why take the risk although imho it would be minimal.

Col Law
05-16-12, 03:44
should **** (under 18) girls in dia be named here or is that silly. she states 20 but when met said only 17.to be honest i think at the time i was just upset at the waste of time and effort, all it turned out to be was i was the entertainment for her and the family to see, i do not think she had any thought of going back to my room (or anyones room) even though of course originally it was offered, can't win them all. just me being pissed off at the waste of time.

Red Kilt
05-16-12, 10:25
i am waiting for someone to show that a tourist was set up by an **** girl in cebu. i still think this is an urban legend. i personally have met a good number of girls who admitted that they originally joined dia when they were younger than 18. they don't care. however given that most of the girls look a lot younger than they really are, i see no real upside in meeting a 16 or 17 year old. why bother and why take the risk although imho it would be minimal.i think we are all on the same page about this.

i agree that i can see no reason why anyone would flirt with the possibility that a border-line case might be under-age and especially if she looks ****.

i guess that's why i tend to go for the 26 year olds and above so there is no "risk". i also have some problem in my psyche about screwing a woman who is younger than my daughter, but that's just my own personal foible.

Golfinho
05-16-12, 12:33
Whom are we kidding. Lets face it. Asian girls love white guys and white skin. In all my travels to south east Asia. I never heard a girl say. Indians are hot, wish I could have him as my bf, I'm going to ride that hot Indian guy over there tonight. Not even in Soi 6 Pattaya. Where you guys are used to hansum man where you go calls that i would be lucky if I could get an eye contact forget about the cat callsNext time you're shopping for a product and can't find something that doesn't have 'whitening' in it, just tell the salesgirl that you're looking for a darkening lotion. See her look at you like you have two heads. Always compliment an Asian girl on her skin color, no matter what it is, tell her it's the color you like best. Let's face it. Reality is reality.

Hart David
05-23-12, 16:04
This post is late but thought of adding as I am planing my second trip to cebu with a year. This trip is special as it revealed many facets of pinoy life to me. I am in absolute love with this people. In manila, where I had nice GFE from almost all the chat mates I had over the Cupid. I met this 18years old college studnet who loved to be cuddled but did not ask a penny and refuse to accept any gifts. Lovely girl lots of play but no sex. As she is still a virgin, could be true, but I did not want to force her. She is still talking to me at least twice a week.

Went to Cavite for two days as I got sick while in manila (pollution) , had a nice time with a previously arranged girlfriend but will not recommend as I could be better off with out a GF, so many opportunities.

Missed a flight to Legazpi due to bad weather and end up in cebu much earlier. Since then I met my two regular cebuanas with endless opportunities. Time flew like nothing and really enjoyed cebu.

One of the peculiar thing that I noted was the reluctance of bargirls to come with me. I found that they are more interested in koreans and white skinned farangs than indian looking man like me. (I am not an indian, most girls and ordinary filipinos thouhg that I am Filipino) I am sure my mom did not live in fili!

I will be returning again in September, hope to enjoy more

There are lot of pics, will post later

I do visit fili not only looking for pay for sex but GF as well, where you can get it without much hassle, you got to pay some how or the other but you will have time of your life once you get in to the groove.

Cheers.

Colombaa

Jp Slicky
05-27-12, 04:27
Slicky here live from Cebu in the Philippines.

The general theme of this trip is."If it were not for bad luck, I would have no luck at all"

Flight from Jp was uneventful and everything was fine there.

The shuttle between terminals in Manila, sucks. I waited about 15 min for a crappy shuttle bus to take me to the next terminal. Plane out of the gate late (PAL=Plane Always Late) I read this somewhere.

Taxing to the runway on PAL and all the sudden all the electrical and lights go off and the plane slows to a stop and we had to be towed and it took about an hour to fix it but the plane was full and no air cond, Shit, not a good start.

Don't take the yellow cab out of the Cebu airport, it's meter starts at 70 and within a block the meter starts a moving, it cost me about 340peso to the Fuente Circle. A wee bit expensive but better than walking. The traffic Jams were everywhere and seemed to take ages to get to the hotel.

Things did go from bad to worse.

First night I went down to J Ave at Mango square. I sat there and have a rare 2 beers and actually feeling the affect. This FL came up to me and we started to chat. Having some wierd vibes about this person, but wanted to see where it goes, I violated the when in doubt there is no doubt rule. Slicky jr was doing the thinking.

OK off to my room. And its shower time.

This FL wanted to be paid up front, I refused (I was not opening my safe while this person was in the room period (Only 2 good decision I made) Then the FL wanted the lights dimmed to almost dark. I said no, cause slicky jr wants to see your snatch. The FL would not take off the undies top or bottom. Nice looking tits turned to no tits, OK now the bottom, show me your kitten. Pull the undies down but quickly covered with hands. I lightly tried to pull the hand away and got resistance. Then and there I went to put my clothes back on. Have you guessed it yet? Yes. LB!

I told the guy to get out, and he began to give me shit, I am sure I could take him but will let managemennt fight my battles went right over to the phone and told it to get out. I gave it 140 pesos from my pocket and told the guy to get out. All the time him telling me he is not a LB. By the way, I did ask if he was at Mango and it lied to me. Close call here boys, I violated some rules about doubt and taking street meat of the streets of Cebu.

Next Day.

I went for a walk and a swim, Sat and read my National Geo magazine at Robinson mall for a bit of fishing for about 4 hours, not even so much a FL looked at me. I noticed a few other whites on the prowl there. Gave that up and went for a walk and had my shoes fix to help give a guy a few moments of work and chance to make some money.

Funny thing, I stopped at McD on Colon. I like the plain hamberger and ordered two of them. And thats what I got. Hamberger meat on bread and nothing else. Be careful of what you ask for. You just might get it.

I arranged a date with a lady on DIA. But this one was a two bagger and did not look like her photo, but being a gentleman I took her to have some cheap italian down the road. When we first met up she told me 15 min ago someone pickpoketed her cell phone, but she sent me a message 5 min before that, go figure. I think she was fishing for some money.

After that, I left her and went back to the hotel and arranged another meeting, Photo on this one matched. She wanted to come over with her cousin. Well. Ok if it puts you at ease. I agreed to help her with transportation. Finally she and her cousin (Guy) showed up at about 1AM and we chit chat in front of the hotel then walk over to Bo's coffee for more chit chat. Yes I pay for that too. Closing time and we walk back to the hotel enterance and she is wondering if he can come up with us. I tell them olny double occupency, true or not I am not sure but used that excuse. I give the cousin 300 just to get rid of him. Finally he leaves us and the girl and I go up to my room and more chit chat. She tells me how cold she is, but the Aircond was off but gave her a poloshirt to wear. She said she was still cold and I suggested that that I hold her and she fell into my arm willingly. A few mins after I was holding her, we got to kissing, but that lasted only about 10 seconds and she pulled away and asked me why I did that. Funny though, for the first 9 seconds she was into it. It ended up that I showered alone, and slept first while she watched TV, and when she did go to bed, she slept on one side of the king size and I was on the other and a gap between us. When I awoke I wanted her out but she began to watch TV again and never talked with me. I told her twice she could go if she wants. Finally she goes in the bathroom and puts on what she wore, not even take a shower and ask me if she could barrow money to get home, I pointed out I gave her cousin 300 as agreed and the word barrow from the standpoint of most Phils means can I have. I gave her 200 only to get her out of my room. She invited me to visit her area and I lied by telling her I would come on Friday.

If it were not for bad luck, I would have none at all.

I can recommend the Summit Circle Hotel, it is clean, strong Wifi, pool, blah blah blah. Definately stay here again at the 3 star prices. 2200 peso per night and the buffet is ok. Bring your own tooth brush though.

Well on to other DIA possiblities.

Starchild2012
05-27-12, 08:14
Slicky here live from Cebu in the Philippines.

The general theme of this trip is."If it were not for bad luck, I would have no luck at all"

Flight from Jp was uneventful and everything was fine there.Jp,

Are you on a short term vacation? Seems like you are in a bit of a hurry to get things done. If yes, I suggest to drop DIA if not 100% sure and hunt in bars on mango. DIA dates takes time to get going and it takes a lot of heart to keep going after disappointments. The freelancer ladyboy thing could have been easily avoided had you hopped into numerous bars on mango or waited out in J ave and sorted out the catch.

You were not being lucky just did not do enough research to keep going on the right path. Don't be in a hurry. Just chill and go to bars if you on a short time vacation. ELSE. Be forthright in DIA what you really want. Don't fool around. Many girls like the honesty. Just say it upfront. You only here for fun and are ready to make a deal for good time together. You will be surprised to see many replies for your offer. Good luck. Don't loose heart. You just getting started in paradise that called Cebu.)

Red Kilt
05-27-12, 09:01
The general theme of this trip is."If it were not for bad luck, I would have no luck at all"You must be a slow learner Slicky. I have seen you on ISG for a long time and yet you must not have comprehended all the good advice in the Cebu Forum.

Did you read the forum here and just not understand it?

Mistake # 1. Plenty of advice here about using regular taxis. Go out of the terminal, across the road, through the gate in the fence and up the stairs at the RH end of the building. You will fins a row of meter taxis controlled by a security guard who will give you a slip with taxi name and number on it.

Mistake #2. So much advice here about LBs around the area in Mango Ave that you hit. Taking an FL back to your room without being 100% sure is just plain silly.

Mistake #3. Robinson's Mall is very hit and miss. Not much quality wanders around in there. Now and then you might do OK up near the upstairs coffee shop (again. RTFF)

Mistake #4. Taking a DIA girl to your room AFTER she asked if her cousin could come to the room too is a clear indication that she is not going to put out for you. You must be very naive not to realise this. At this point you should have asked some VERY direct questions. If the answer had been not what you wanted then you send her home with the cousin. You said that in the room she got into the bed and got into kissing you then moved away. Then you say later she went in the bathroom and got dressed???

Does this mean she stripped, got into bed with you but then nothing happened??? Bit puzzling. Seems to me she was waiting for you to push a bit harder on her but who knows?

I hope to read new posts that you got your act together. Seriously man. Read TFF and understand it. Plenty of clues for you here.

Member #4351
05-28-12, 23:44
Once again I encounter another forum member who is an embarrasment to ISG. I have to agree with all who are fed up with trying to help any guys on the forum. A few days ago I posted about a cute girl from one of the dating sites who wanted to meet some nice guys for fun. No money involved except for taxi. She had just turned 18, seemed very nice and had never been with a foreigner. I got PMs from the usual assortment of individuals from India who just want photos to beat off to and other lurkers. However one guy who had posted around 30 times asked for information. Since he told me that he had finalized his plans and was going to arrive in Cebu yesterday Monday, I gave him the girl's contact information. According to her he started chatting with her, told her everything he wanted to do with her, and then beat off looking at her face (no naughty webcam chat with this one) and came all over his t-shirt. He had promised her he was going to meet her on Monday. This piece of garbage didn't even get in touch with her to call off the date. She gave me all this information AFTER being stood up. She had canceled all her plans in order to meet him. So I am left looking like a fool because I recommended this guy to the girl. Never again.

GoodEnough
05-29-12, 00:55
David:

I have made, if not the same, then similar mistakes in trying to help out guys on this forum, and adopted the "never again" mantra several years ago after a similar embarrassment. It's simply not worth the risk when thinking of helping guys whom you don't know, will likely never meet, and to whom you owe nothing in the way of favors.

GE

FurryFriend
05-29-12, 03:50
On my very first trip to Cebu with the very first girl. You can check my old posts. The girl showed up, looked me and turned around.LOLYou've been complaining about being Indian for many months now. I think it's time you accept what cannot be changed and move on.

If you don't want a girl to reject you for being Indian on dating websites, maybe you should have made it clear immediately that you're Indian.

Aussie Jo
05-29-12, 05:31
I ended up in Cebu earlier than originally planned.

Walking in Cebu between appointments I got the 'look' from a couple of young ladies. They were sitting at a table outside a closed restaurant. Their opening line was "Where you going? You want massage?" Opening price was P2000 for duo massage.

A short discussion and I walked away at P1, 000 for two head jobs. When I say walked away, I was hapy to go without them as I hadn't planned on anything this lunchtime as I have two hot dates tonight. I had a meeting to get to.

As I was walking away, I calculated that back into my currency and at $25 for two head jobs in my lunch break from a couple of polite Pinay, probably not a bad investment.

Back in the room, a little fruits from the basket, they showered and onto bed. One was reasonably shy, the other was the more experienced BJ delivered. Pretty quickly worked that out and let her take the lead.

Another shower and they were on their way. They did ask to take a spare roll of toilet paper, which I allowed them. Quick scan around the room didn't see anything else disappear. Valuables locked away in safe and suitcase.

I love this place.

AJ

Starchild2012
05-29-12, 08:59
You've been complaining about being Indian for many months now. I think it's time you accept what cannot be changed and move on.

If you don't want a girl to reject you for being Indian on dating websites, maybe you should have made it clear immediately that you're Indian.Are you serious. No, I get it, you the Chinese American who starts fight with all members and after they all flushed you out. You are onto something new to get your BS on. I'm just stating the facts smarty pants. If you had taken time to read what I wrote and not just blush your brains out. I have already moved on or else why would I be here. And first use your brain to read and not write what you already want to cause shit with.

Ohh so now you are the master of dating sites. I have read all your bottom feeding stories before and it ain't amusing and not at all something people could get advice from.

Give your advice to someone who has the brain size of your own. I'm just wasting my time writing this to you. Just pick someone else. I DON"T NEED ANY ADVICE FROM YOU GET IT. I know you are the unofficial sh*it stirrer in PH forum from the glorious past reports. I'm not here to debate with you anymore. SO GO AWAY BYE

Stroker Ace88
05-30-12, 00:55
Once again I encounter another forum member who is an embarrasment to ISG. I have to agree with all who are fed up with trying to help any guys on the forum. [SNIP] So I am left looking like a fool because I recommended this guy to the girl. Never again.
David:

I have made, if not the same, then similar mistakes in trying to help out guys on this forum, and adopted the "never again" mantra several years ago after a similar embarrassment. It's simply not worth the risk when thinking of helping guys whom you don't know, will likely never meet, and to whom you owe nothing in the way of favors.

GED33 and GE,

Many many many moons ago I stopped sharing info on filipinas with expats and ISG members alike. No CP numbers, no dating profiles or YM's exchanged. As GE pointed out it's a lose-lose situation for both the girl and for the guy who passed along her info. The net trolls, want to-be visitors to the Philippines and idiot with no manners and even less clue how to treat a woman all seem to be the ones who rush to be first in line to request contact info.

I throughly divide my ISG life from the filipinas I date. When meeting someone from the board I show up alone and enjoy good company, a few laughs, some food and a few cold drinks. I decline any and all requests from the members I meet who wish to introduce me to a woman. Thanks but no thanks. I can find my own. No harm no foul and it insulates me from exactly the kind of situation UP had to deal with.

I will give a nod of the head and maybe a wry smile to the guy if we happen to cross paths in Ayala, S&R or somewhere in CC if I am with my gwapa GF and leave it at that.

FurryFriend
05-30-12, 03:52
Ohh so now you are the master of dating sites. I have read all your bottom feeding stories before and it ain't amusing and not at all something people could get advice from.On another forum devoted to Philippine mongering, I had a discussion with several people comparing our experiences on dating websites.

Clearly, my response from girls on DIA is less than your typical, older white guy. I estimate 25% less. DIA has developed a reputation for meeting (and scamming) older white guys so girls are naturally there primarily to meet them.

But just because my response is 25% less, I don't sit around and mope at being Chinese or lash out at someone on a public forum who made a commonsense suggestion. Because even though my response is 25% less, I still have access to almost an infinite number of girls to the point where the playing field is ridiculously in my favor. It's just a bit less ridiculous than for older white guys.

Oddly, my responses on FilipinoCupid, a paid website, is considerable higher than for older white guys. I think it's because girls there are more interested in marriage and many (if not most) Filipinas prefer Asian guys since Asians are more similar to Filipinos than Caucasians.

So the bottom line is, we cannot change our ethnicity. Instead of being so angry and lashing, we should just accept it with dignity while finding strategies to maximize our results in an unfair and unequal world.

Frenzy3
05-30-12, 04:13
That reminds me there was a guy giving out details of a girl, I do not think he knew her all that well she ended up stealing a camera and stuff from another guy on this forum. I met the girl over coffee but never took it further as I caught her lying to me, and was not surprised to hear that she was a theif

Aussie Jo
05-30-12, 05:55
Once again my time in Cebu has been productive. Prior to arrival I did some research and made contacts via Tagged. I had a list of 33 Cebu names and numbers of which I had a shortlist of 5.

I hadn't made any arrangements to be met at the airport as I prefer to clear my thoughts upon arrival. As I walked up the ramp to the taxis a girl caught my eye and kept making eye contact. Eventually she approached me and asked if I was Aussie Jo. Turns out she was a Tagged contact whom I had mentioned my arrival time. I had taken her off my short list as she wasnt what I was looking for. Anyway, what the heck, I invited her to ride with me tot he hotel as I had 1 hour spare before my first meeting.

In the room, she was shy but friendly but jut wasn't able to move with me quick enough in the time I had. We ended up with a kissing embrace and a farewell. Nothing ventured nothing gained. She was then texting me each day offering to come back but I had better options.

After my work meetings met up with a Facebook contact this time. SHe has plenty of bathing suit and glamour photos on her page. A drink at TGI Fridays and then over to the hotel to watch some Filipina TV. In the room she was pretty and nice, excellent BJ with swallow completion. Just off her period so she didn't want DATY.

Later that night, caught up with a tagged friend. Quite stunning in pictures but always cautious to kill off any of my flirting talk. Conversation was very intellectual and she is obviously more than what she describes as just ordinary hotel worker. She works at a Cebu 5 star. In the end, a quick kiss, she dropped me in taxi back to hotel and she went home. Once again, a text next day said she was ken to catch up again.

Not a bad first 8 hours in Cebu.

Had work commitments the following day and zero action.

Next day, during appointments I had the two random Ayala girls for lunch.

After work at 4pm met a contact from about 40kms away. She was cute, a coffee at The Coffee Bean and then to hotel to watch some fashion TV. She gave the minibar a bit of a workout and she was up for fucking. Nice BJ, nice fucking, nice bod. In the end, she was actually incredibly drunk. When I look back, she has a body weight of 45kgs maybe even less. I would not let her drink the same as me again. Had to move her on with little grace as I had a hot date with a contact from Day 1.

Turned up a little late at Slabadu, some club / bar somewhere. I just told the taxi driver the name. Nice music. Cobersation was again engaging. She told me what they say and hotels about the white foreigners whom have a reputation for having multiple women per day. I felt a little paranoid at this remark but of course I appeared amazed at that. Eventually she decided to come back to my hotel for a 2am Hotel massage. Surprise surprise, the hotel massage wasn't available and I had to help out. Wonderful body. She is not a working girl, just a successful, focused local girl. She did everything except fuck, which I guess she is keeping special. Looks like another trip to do the deed.

Did soem souvenir shopping at Ayala this morning, first lady I pass was 'spending the day alone' and open for contact. A work for the readers of this forum. While there are available ladies at Ayala, there are also many many beautiful ladies whom simply aren't looking to be picked up. So, maybe for 2, 000 ladies at Ayala, only 1-2 are open for casual pickup. Pick your ladies, they will make eye contact AND retain eye contact. Don't make fools my hitting on the wrong sweet ladies.

Sadly, it's time to leave today. I've invited one lady for the airport trip, hopefully she'll have time for a great BJ before we leave the hotel.

I do love it here in Cebu.

Starchild2012
05-30-12, 10:04
On another forum devoted to Philippine mongering, I had a discussion with several people comparing our experiences on dating websites.

Clearly, my response from girls on DIA is less than your typical, older white guy. I estimate 25% less. DIA has developed a reputation for meeting (and scamming) older white guys so girls are naturally there primarily to meet them.

But just because my response is 25% less, I don't sit around and mope at being Chinese or lash out at someone on a public forum who made a commonsense suggestion. Because even though my response is 25% less, I still have access to almost an infinite number of girls to the point where the playing field is ridiculously in my favor. It's just a bit less ridiculous than for older white guys.

Oddly, my responses on FilipinoCupid, a paid website, is considerable higher than for older white guys. I think it's because girls there are more interested in marriage and many (if not most) Filipinas prefer Asian guys since Asians are more similar to Filipinos than Caucasians.

So the bottom line is, we cannot change our ethnicity. Instead of being so angry and lashing, we should just accept it with dignity while finding strategies to maximize our results in an unfair and unequal world.Ok this makes more sense. Wish you could have written in before. I never complain about being Indian. If I was I would B**ch about the Filipinas in all my posts just out of hatred and give it back to them for hating Indians. On the contrary I love PH. I was stating facts about how Indians could change themselves to suit better to local culture.

Sorry about the earlier post. I realized it was too harsh. May be it was a communication gap. Being from India. English is not my thing. I just make words out from Hollywood movies and CBS shows. So my whole emotions on indian thing gets lost in translation.

Pip Jaeger
05-31-12, 03:46
While there are available ladies at Ayala, there are also many many beautiful ladies whom simply aren't looking to be picked up. So, maybe for 2, 000 ladies at Ayala, only 1-2 are open for casual pickup. Pick your ladies, they will make eye contact AND retain eye contact. Don't make fools my hitting on the wrong sweet ladies.

I do love it here in Cebu.AJ,

I couldn't agree more, there are many P4P girls there at the mall too, but there are also a few gems that enjoy the company of foreigners; I've met a couple myself and I'll post FR's about one or two of them later, been too busy to do much writing (insert big grin).

Now that I've found a few P4P girls who I can rely on and a really nice regular, or non-P4P lady (who has a full time job and has come over at 10 pm after work a couple of times to stay the night with me) I've scaled back on hunting. I'm quite content to sit at one of the coffee shops and watch the ladies go by; I truly appreciate the beauty of the women here. If a lady passes by that makes AND, as you aptly stated AJ, retains eye contact, then (AND only then) I'll approach her. Unfortunately I've seen a couple of westerners who will literally chase down and try to pick up regular girls. They do nothing but make asses out of themselves and embarrass the young ladies. I would almost be willing to bet that these are the guys who will post on ISG (or other sites) about how crappy the hunting is here and cry about not making any contacts.

I've quickly established a routine and my dance card has been quite full – coffee in the morning at one of the mall shops, have a lady or two meet me in the hotel for some mid-morning / mid-day fun, rest up a bit, back to the mall for dinner and 'window shopping' on the terraces, then meet up with another lady for a few hours of mattress bouncing or my regular lady for a true GFE night of great sex and cuddling.

What amazes me here is how many of these girls are willing to introduce you to their gf's, cousins, sisters and co-workers; heck, one 19 year old girl even wants me to meet up with her 37 year old mother – and I am seriously considering it! I think if you treat them nice, they know that their friends will be safe with you and, as Frenzy pointed out to me, they want to 'spread the wealth' within their own little circle. I wonder how other mongers pass up the opportunity to meet ladies this way, just because they're either too afraid to ask or aren't nice and respectful to the girls they are with. And I don't mean being nice as in overpaying them or buying them extravagant gifts; I mean simply treating them as a person instead of an object or sex toy.

FurryFriend
05-31-12, 08:54
Ok this makes more sense. Wish you could have written in before.Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3lUzGDAZNM&feature=relmfu

There is a hilarious channel on YouTube called Simple Pickup featuring three "pickup artists" who film themselves approaching girls in outrageous ways in order to get phone numbers. Most of the girls they approach are college students in Southern California. They've put out dozens of videos, including the example I've posted above.

Many of their approaches fail. But a lot of them succeed. They do a good job attracting girls because of how they present themselves. Due to their popularity, ABC Nightline (a news program in America) actually did a feature on them a few months ago.

I'm telling you this because one of the three guys in the vidoes. Is an INDIAN. Watching their videos, I'd even say the Indian guy is the most skilled of the trio.

As an Indian guy, yes, you have a disadvantage meeting girls. I'm not going to sugar coat it. Girls harbor wicket stereotypes. So your job is to act in a way that defies those stereotypes immediately, just like the Indian guy in the Simple Pickup videos who's good at socializing with random girls.

One stereotype of Indians is that they have a ferocious temper. You lashing out on an earlier post didn't do much to counter that stereotype. I wonder if you act similarly in-person.

Starchild2012
06-02-12, 12:57
Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3lUzGDAZNM&feature=relmfu

There is a hilarious channel on YouTube called Simple Pickup featuring three "pickup artists" who film themselves approaching girls in outrageous ways in order to get phone numbers. Most of the girls they approach are college students in Southern California. They've put out dozens of videos, including the example I've posted above.

Many of their approaches fail. But a lot of them succeed. They do a good job attracting girls because of how they present themselves. Due to their popularity, ABC Nightline (a news program in America) actually did a feature on them a few months ago.

I'm telling you this because one of the three guys in the vidoes. Is an INDIAN. Watching their videos, I'd even say the Indian guy is the most skilled of the trio.

As an Indian guy, yes, you have a disadvantage meeting girls. I'm not going to sugar coat it. Girls harbor wicket stereotypes. So your job is to act in a way that defies those stereotypes immediately, just like the Indian guy in the Simple Pickup videos who's good at socializing with random girls.

One stereotype of Indians is that they have a ferocious temper. You lashing out on an earlier post didn't do much to counter that stereotype. I wonder if you act similarly in-person.Haha, that was hilarious. Yeah. Sometime I get cannibalistic. I'm trying to improve and keep my calm around. Thanks for the video

Offshore Swell
06-02-12, 13:30
She told me what they say and hotels about the white foreigners whom have a reputation for having multiple women per day. I felt a little paranoid at this remark but of course I appeared amazed

Hmm, what exactly do the call us? I would love to capture those thought bubbles as they hold the door open.

Frenzy3
06-02-12, 22:40
pj i was down ayala today at the usual bos and saw the stupidest guy sit down next to some obvious young girls, they where not looking at him so he gets up and gives them his card, they left with out finishing their drinks, he sat there waiting for the next victim.

guys need to learn some eq, if the girls are not interested do not make them feel uncomfortable. i watched the whole thing and it was obvious the girls where not p4p and where ****. it was a weekend you are going to see more no pros on weekends so back off unless they are looking at you.

BionicMan
06-02-12, 22:52
(---)What amazes me here is how many of these girls are willing to introduce you to their gf's, cousins, sisters and co-workers; heck, one 19 year old girl even wants me to meet up with her 37 year old mother – and I am seriously considering it! I think if you treat them nice, they know that their friends will be safe with you and, as Frenzy pointed out to me, they want to 'spread the wealth' within their own little circle. I wonder how other mongers pass up the opportunity to meet ladies this way, just because they're either too afraid to ask or aren't nice and respectful to the girls they are with. And I don't mean being nice as in overpaying them or buying them extravagant gifts; I mean simply treating them as a person instead of an object or sex toy.I thinkthere is nothing bad in paying a few drinks or a meal to their friends or close relative (but more tricky as how are they seeing you?) and maybe enjoy the company of some nice girls around. We do this in the westwern world to invite friends (of both sex) to a dinner to our palce for a drink and nobody judges other than "he is social". So indeed there should not be any blast if one does so in SEA with one of his girls. Especially when he is fully aware and adult. Lcoals knwo that we have a vacation and suaully in holidays one spends more than usually spends at home (in general)

Stroker Ace88
06-03-12, 01:32
pj i was down ayala today at the usual bos and saw the stupidest guy sit down next to some obvious young girls, they where not looking at him so he gets up and gives them his card, they left with out finishing their drinks, he sat there waiting for the next victim.

guys need to learn some eq, if the girls are not interested do not make them feel uncomfortable. i watched the whole thing and it was obvious the girls where not p4p and where ****. it was a weekend you are going to see more no pros on weekends so back off unless they are looking at you.frenzy,

i have seen foreign guys do some idiot moves in ayala and sometimes at sm too. the guys seem to be new to the philippines. they have no clue they are making a fool out of themselves when they give out there business cards or walk up to filipinas who are not p4p or looking for a foreigner. they think since they are the 'rich foreigner' they can make the rules and do as they want. not so. it only takes one wrong move in the philippines to learn the hard way.

i saw one clueless guy a few months ago walk up to an **** girl outside rustans department store in ayala. she was dressed in her high school uniform and she was busy texting while her mom went inside rustans for a few minutes. the guy was around 60yrs old and stopped to talk to her. the guy was eatting her up with his eyes and had this big smile on his face as he asked for her number and if she wanted to make some pesos. the girl was not impressed and started to walk away just as her mom came out of the store. the girl told her mom what had happened and the mom ran over to the guy and started to swing her purse hitting the idiot over and over yelling at him. the guy ran off and the security guard from rustans came out to see what was going on.

some idiots have no clue. one hour later i saw the same guy stop to talk with some korean women in there early 20's outside krispy kreme. they walked away laughing at him.

newbies to the philippines have to understand it takes awhile to accurately gauge the age of filipinas and to pickup on small details in the way filipinas dress that determines what level of society they come from and if they are giving you 'the look' or not. it takes time to pick out the p4p mall regulars from the women who are there to shop or have 'hangout time' with there friends.

not every filipina is interested in foreigners, and infact some are very against foreigners dating filipinas.

GoodEnough
06-03-12, 02:02
Frenzy,

Newbies to the Philippines have to understand it takes awhile to accurately gauge the age of filipinas and to pickup on small details in the way filipinas dress that determines what level of society they come from and if they are giving you 'the look' or not. It takes time to pick out the P4P mall regulars from the women who are there to shop or have 'hangout time' with there friends.

Not every filipina is interested in foreigners, and infact some are very against foreigners dating filipinas.I think all of us who live here have witnessed similar: "I haven't got a clue" behavior often. I'm not sure what happens to some newbies when they step off the plane here that makes them think every woman they see will be a willing sperm receptacle. Their embarrassing infantilism and awkwardness may, on occassion, land them in serious trouble, at least in Davao. I think these are probably guys who haven't experienced success in decades with women in their own countries but have managed to convince themselves that here in the Philippines their gut-stretched tee shirts, sandals and ratty looking shorts will proved irresistable to women forty years their junior. It would be funny, if it weren't so insulting to the local population.

GE

Frenzy3
06-03-12, 05:17
Yes that is another point, the guys do not shave or try and dress nice. The other thing girls tell me is smile, you get the so called tough guys come here and they are younger and they never smile.

I always say if your here less than a month stick to bars, if you want freelance action find a girl who is a p4p and tell her the truth, when a p4p ask you want other girls say yes. She wants your peso, she gets a finders fee from girls she sends to you.

As for the guy I saw yesterday he is in pussy heaven but has to wank, any one who comes here and says they did not get pussy needs to learn what is posted here.

Red Kilt
06-03-12, 05:39
There are a series of excellent posts here from Stroker, GE and Frenzy.

One can only hope that eventually the news will filter into mongers who visit here for short times that in a population of almost 100 million people only a very small proportion of women are interested in sex with much older foreigners.

Many of this proportion are bar girls, mall freelancers and lonely women, some who post on DIA and other dating sites who are wanting companionship.

They are usually around places where foreigners can be found.

The remainder are not at all interested in old guys at all (by old, I mean 50 plus).

As you move further and further away from the tourist places you meet more "natural" women. Some of them just like sex, but MOST are regular girls who are intimidated by foreigners.

Many of the posts on ISG about successful conquests in malls or random meets in rural cities are literally "one off" events that are often read by others as normal events that happen all the time. They do not happen very often.

BionicMan
06-03-12, 06:32
. the guy was eatting her up with his eyes and had this big smile on his face as he asked for her number and if she wanted to make some pesos. the girl was not impressed and started to walk away just as her mom came out of the store. (---) some idiots have no clue. one hour later i saw the same guy stop to talk with some korean women in there early 20's outside krispy kreme. they walked away laughing at him. (--) not every filipina is interested in foreigners, and infact some are very against foreigners dating filipinas.behaviour of a potential ****. sick guy as he surely was aware of what the mom was about. he didn't care and progress to the next target. one can make mistakes in a bar girl where a 16yo can state being 18 and we know sometime it is difficult to determine the real age (that is always better to go with those clearly looking above 20 or more) , but approaching a young girl in a mall is the typical psycho behavior. doesn't happen by chance. thanks the girl reacted properly and "did not accepted the sweets from the stranger". it also shows the idiocy of a lot of people thinking that their money can buy anything and people in the so called third world are up to anything for the money.

FurryFriend
06-03-12, 07:42
we all don't want to admit it, but the philippines has become a haven for ****s. on another forum devoted to philippines mongering, you have guys bragging about shagging 30 kg girls and even having a house full of them to introduce to others. some would post photos of their girl on the scale so you can see the read-out of the scale as proof of her weight.

i didn't think this was a big deal. being american, we don't use the metric system. but on conversion, i found 30 kgs is equivalent to 66 pounds, which is the average weight of a 10 year old girl. i was completely shocked and disgusted.

what i found most shocking is not sick-os bragging about banging 66 pound girls, but that so many others seem to think it's no big deal. that has led me to believe that ****-tendencies for those who monger in the philippines is way higher than other destination except maybe for cambodia. these guys would say anything anonymously on the internet to defend their fetish. yet, they would never wear a shirt in public that reads "my girlfriend is 30 kgs".

even if you take a "live and let live" attitude, you should be concerned. if more and more ****s go to the philippines, it will attract more attention from ngos, which would invite crackdown on bars.

Marconista
06-03-12, 12:09
It's the effect of the "Brad Pitt" pill we all take prior to leaving the airplane (smile)


I'm not sure what happens to some newbies when they step off the plane here that makes them think every woman they see will be a willing sperm receptacle.

GE

Jp Slicky
06-03-12, 14:25
I did a lot of trolling at Ayala, and only one woman who was not a hooker smiled at me. Plenty of hookers there on a Saturday night, not sure if that is the norm though.

Stroker Ace88
06-04-12, 04:07
behaviour of a potential ****. sick guy as he surely was aware of what the mom was about. he didn't care and progress to the next target. one can make mistakes in a bar girl where a 16yo can state being 18 and we know sometime it is difficult to determine the real age (that is always better to go with those clearly looking above 20 or more) , but approaching a young girl in a mall is the typical psycho behavior. doesn't happen by chance. thanks the girl reacted properly and "did not accepted the sweets from the stranger". it also shows the idiocy of a lot of people thinking that their money can buy anything and people in the so called third world are up to anything for the money.bm,

i could tell the girl was a high school student from her uniform but i doubt the idiot knew she was ****. she was tall, maybe 5'3 and the idiot stopped to talk to her because she was alone and he did not see her mom go into the store.

it does take some time spent in the philippines for westerners to easily guesstimate the age of a filipina. newbies should be careful until they gain some experience and when in doubt stay away.

imo i think the guy was just horny and fresh off the plane on his first trip to the philippines and full of 'brad pitt-a-ppines" energy and he made a$$-hole out of himself. clearly he had no clue which women to approach or who was available, so he was just walking up to any and all who he deemed suitable. guys like that become statistics and everyone in the west gasps in horror when they hear the news of a foreigner badly beaten or killed in a place like the philippines.

i can remember another incident a few years ago. i was sitting at y-o-u bar one evening on mango across from julianas at the outside tables with a gf at the time and some of her friends.

at the next few tables there was a well-known barangay captain from a barangay located near mandaue sitting with his very gwapa gf and 15-20 friends. i asked who he was because he was older than all the other guys in the group and i noticed he had a handgun stuffed in the waistband of his jeans. i had no clue who he was until my ex-gf told me.

looking at the guys in the group they all were youngish in there 20's and 30's with short well kept hair. i guessed pnp. they were all having a good time enjoying the music. the tanduay and red horse was flowing but everyone was well behaved. that is until a drunk foreign guy walked over from julianas. he spotted the beautiful gf of the barangay captain and walked over to her. he bent over and said something in her ear. she looked at the foreigner and she made a face like wtf and she shook her head no. one of the guys told the foreigner to leave. he didn't leave. he bent down again to try to talk with the girl and she kind of pushed the foreigner away because it looked to me as if the guy tried to kiss her. big mistake.

alot of the young guys jumped up and kicked the crap out of him. punches, kicks, blood everywhere. good thing the captain was inside the bar at the time and didn't see what happened. the foreigner got off the pavement and staggered away as best he could with blood dripping from his busted face. i told my table that was our cue to leave and i asked for 'bill out' lol. when the captain came outside and was told what had happened he looked furious. he asked his gf if she was ok and they had a chat in bisaya. at the end of the chat the gf smiled and then the captain burst out laughing and everyone laughed with him. they continued to drink and enjoy the evening while i made my exit.

that's the only time i witnessed violence against an expat or foreigner at the hands of a local. the guy deserved what he got. i said it before, but in the philippines if you step on the toes of a local (connected or not) expect a nasty and swift response.

Boofa69
06-04-12, 04:19
Lately theres been a discussion on how to pick up girls at malls. Well, I've been to Ayala mall a few times where girls have tried to pick me up. This has caught me off guard bcoz there has been no eye contact or smile initiated from me. I'm surprised bcoz filipina are usually shy especially among foreigners. I have not followed through from these attempts. Just wondering if I did do I have to be careful I might be set up for a scam of some sort. These ladies are well dressed and definetly not hookers.

Stroker Ace88
06-04-12, 04:25
I did a lot of trolling at Ayala, and only one woman who was not a hooker smiled at me. Plenty of hookers there on a Saturday night, not sure if that is the norm though.Hookers? Umm, the term to use in the Philippines is BG's (Bar Girls) and also GRO's (Guest Relations Officer) for those women who work out of bars.

For women who can be picked up from malls the term would be semi-pro or p4p (pay for play) women.

Hookers (generally speaking) are women who walk around on Sunset Boulevard in heels and hot pants with mega-makeup. I have never seen HOOKERS walk around Ayala.

Yes standard to see ALOT more semi-pro's and p4p women around Ayala Saturday night, since that's the usual end of the work week and alot of people out drinking or looking for fun.

If you walked around Ayala on Sunday morning or Sunday afternoon you would be correct in your observation that there are not so many p4p women around. Sunday is a day meant for family and for attending church services. Sunday night is better if you are looking to pickup.

BionicMan
06-04-12, 09:50
bm, (-) i could tell the girl was a high school student from her uniform but i doubt the idiot knew she was ****. she was tall, maybe 5'3 and the idiot stopped to talk to her because she was alone and he did not see her mom go into the store.

(-) that's the only time i witnessed violence against an expat or foreigner at the hands of a local. the guy deserved what he got. i said it before, but in the philippines if you step on the toes of a local (connected or not) expect a nasty and swift response.nice insigiht story. i agree with you on the principles that tons of people step out of the plane expecting p4p, hookers, sw, flooding the places and every female can be not only a target but a willing partner (even more if he knows he can show the $$).

it is a fact that sea offers more sex opportunities than the western world, that girls, in general and in average, dress also sexier (especially in bkk or sin) and so, for the sick mind they are all there for selling their bodies.

i always laugh to myself at around 7pm, both in sukhumvit area (in bkk) and ot (in sin) as it is a grey time: are the pretty girls walking with high heels and mini-skirts leaving the office (the legitimate 9 to 5 one) or going to the "office" (the wg one, ie bars etc)? a non trained or well informed person might also get wrong vibes and approach the wrong girl!

GoodEnough
06-04-12, 11:12
I loved Stroker Ace's story about the poor schmuck who tried to hit on the barangay captain's girlfriend. Can you imagine walking up to a table of young, fit guys in New York, or Paris, or elsewhere in the West and trying to pick up the one single girl at the table? The outcome, I'm sure, would have been similar. What is it in the air here that makes guys think they can get away with outrageous behavior that they would never consider at home? I guess that despite the repeated warnings from guys to actually know the country, to fly always below the radar, just goes unheeded.

GE

X Man
06-05-12, 13:34
We don't know what kind of trolling you were doing, nor do we know how old are you. It's hard to make a comment. I go to Ayala for the shopping, restaurants, etc. Besides that, it's a good place to meet (as in first date) gals and a great place to take ladies for a meal or even some pictures.


I did a lot of trolling at Ayala, and only one woman who was not a hooker smiled at me. Plenty of hookers there on a Saturday night, not sure if that is the norm though.

X Man
06-05-12, 14:12
Have a d5fferent *ers*ect5ve. Rather than be5ng newb5es, s4s*ect they have 14st vent4red 64t 6f AC.


I think all of us who live here have witnessed similar: "I haven't got a clue" behavior often. I'm not sure what happens to some newbies when they step off the plane here that makes them think every woman they see will be a willing sperm receptacle. Their embarrassing infantilism and awkwardness may, on occassion, land them in serious trouble, at least in Davao. I think these are probably guys who haven't experienced success in decades with women in their own countries but have managed to convince themselves that here in the Philippines their gut-stretched tee shirts, sandals and ratty looking shorts will proved irresistable to women forty years their junior. It would be funny, if it weren't so insulting to the local population.

GE

Jp Slicky
06-05-12, 14:57
I may have been a bit too careful. But I did not want to be that poor schmuck and disturb or make someone uncomfortable who was at the mall that for reasons of just having a good time or shopping. I did get the eye from some women though. No nonpros would even look at me.

I am 52 and a gentleman first and naughty second, although this may have been my downfall.

I struck out on DIA contacts big time too. However, I read how Bionicman, I beleive, scored 3 out of 4. The DIA women I met, except for one, would not even get them to come in my room. Read about my failure with the one that did come in another posting. Most of the DIA contacts were nothing short of being complete airheads. One was so stupid, I refused to meet her, but she did not care, all she wanted was the chocolate bar I promised and she came and picked it up on a rainy day from the front desk. I met about 10 DIA women and for many the conversation never lasted more than 30min before I bailed out by telling them I have to do some company work (a lie). They had nothing to say, just stared down in their lap. The prolonged silence was a real drag.

Many may not beleive it, but I did read the posts and even took notes. A prominate member of this Philippine board who's technique I read up on extensively, but I failed. I take responsibilities for many mistakes. But could also be I am no Tom Cruze either.

My one success was at J Ave where I scored a freebie.

I met Pip Jeager and talked for long time with him at Ayala, and Frenzy3 I beleive was kind enough to PM me with suggestions. I did learn a few things too.

Member #4491
06-05-12, 15:37
i didn't think this was a big deal. being american, we don't use the metric system. but on conversion, i found 30 kgs is equivalent to 66 pounds, which is the average weight of a 10 year old girl. i was completely shocked and disgusted.for the sake of education, people here should update themselves on the definitions. it is sh*t the same morally and legally, but the mall man who was hitting on a 16 year old girl is not necessarily a **** by definition (he can be a **** as well well though).

are they really 30 kilos? sounds extreme and like something that someone would crack down on immediately if it is on the internet. if they are ****, you should absolutely not write about it here, but rather report it immediately. google will help you if you are clueless on where to report. if it is not illegal but just repulsive to you, you will just have to click yourself to something that suits you better.

by just writing this post you could be contribute to portraying this lovely country as a **** destination. i had many girls who where around 35-40 kilos and i like small females sometimes. i know many guys who also likes these spinners, but this has nothing to do with having sex with children. many asian girls of 18 or 28 will be around 35 kilos, so let us kill the idea that small in usa equals a child all over the world.

this discussion pops up every now and then, and everyone rush towards showing their disgust. nothing defines ourselves for ourselves as the things we fear and hate. in my opinion the best is to report when you see something illegal and then shut the f*ck up about this second home of ours being a **** sex haven. it is not that for the major part of the visitors, and rubbing in the picture that anything is for sale in the philippines will not help the country.

i try not to be opinionated but can not help to chuckle every time i read the advice to fuck lola "to be sure it is not an **** girl". yes, guys let fear guide you. someone is always watching you. conform to majority and then take one extra step to be 100% sure you fall in line. leave the teenagers to the ones who posses the magical skills of extracting the true age from a girl. i am ironic, of course. a slipping slope only exists if you let it, so no need to be so afraid to put your penis in a 18 year old girl. some girls actually do tell you the truth, and it is not that hard to weed out the ones that don't.

barba

Member #4491
06-05-12, 21:45
Can you imagine walking up to a table of young, fit guys in New York, or Paris, or elsewhere in the West and trying to pick up the one single girl at the table?Try it in for example Riga and feel instant pain.

There is (was) a a Spanish looser and his son roaming around the clubs in Davao. The son has been an asshole several times when I saw him. Threatening women. A real man. He has a hearing disorder and it seems he thinks he must compensate by playing cool. Like a deaf gangster clown. He got his ass kicked eventually also I was told. But apart from this I saw or heard of very few incidents where the locals sat down the foot. It makes me sick to see these hilbilly clowns, including the Spanish pricks (hope you reads this you pathetic loosers) , behaving like pigs. But sooner or later maybe the locals gain some self esteem and starts to react. It will probably be a couple of generations before we have the Thai kick ass pride in the Philippines though.

B

Starchild2012
06-06-12, 03:29
I may have been a bit too careful. But I did not want to be that poor schmuck and disturb or make someone uncomfortable who was at the mall that for reasons of just having a good time or shopping. I did get the eye from some women though. No nonpros would even look at me.

I am 52 and a gentleman first and naughty second, although this may have been my downfall.

I struck out on DIA contacts big time too. However, I read how Bionicman, I beleive, scored 3 out of 4. The DIA women I met, except for one, would not even get them to come in my room. Read about my failure with the one that did come in another posting. Most of the DIA contacts were nothing short of being complete airheads. One was so stupid, I refused to meet her, but she did not care, all she wanted was the chocolate bar I promised and she came and picked it up on a rainy day from the front desk. I met about 10 DIA women and for many the conversation never lasted more than 30min before I bailed out by telling them I have to do some company work (a lie). They had nothing to say, just stared down in their lap. The prolonged silence was a real drag.

Many may not beleive it, but I did read the posts and even took notes. A prominate member of this Philippine board who's technique I read up on extensively, but I failed. I take responsibilities for many mistakes. But could also be I am no Tom Cruze either.

My one success was at J Ave where I scored a freebie.

I met Pip Jeager and talked for long time with him at Ayala, and Frenzy3 I beleive was kind enough to PM me with suggestions. I did learn a few things too.Its a blessing. Filipinas are passive and submissive. Do you really want an "opinionated" "feminist" women on the door who will read your rights. You will have plenty of that kind back home. LOL.

That been said. There are lots and lots of really smart women in the PH. Who just don't come on a dating site, they are scooped by the locals itself. As GE points out. If you looking for a long term relationship. Dating sites are not the one to go but friends who can recommend a good girl to you.

If you looking for a girl who could give you a good conversation and be a good gf experience as well. I suggest you try Manila. Some of the girls are really up there. I don't know if you checked filipiaheart dating site as well. But beware of scams. Plenty more than DIA but some gems to be found. I got lucky and dated a manila girl who was a beauty, could talk about Stargate atlantis to corruption in the PH to food. We talked for 4 hours straight.

PH is the number 1 call center, KPO, BPO destination. Almost all the girls you will meet from these industries are smart. Cebu dating girls are mostly from province and dating 20 year olds will get you only so much. If you want a good conversation women. Start above 30+ age range.

I think its your first trip. You are trying to process too much information and unable to comprehend and make sense of it all compared to back home and that you been a nice guy. Finding it hard to make tough choices. You are doing just fine. Give it some time to soak in and come back few times more to PH and I bet you will never want to live. Seems like you been too hard on yourself sometimes. Just chill. Don't try too hard. Everything will come to you here slowly. Don't be hard on yourself. You are doing fine.

Bongster
06-07-12, 13:29
Been in Cebu a week now. Lots of fun.

Frenzy, thanks for the advice. But it turned out that she really just had forgotten her I D. She came back the next day, this time with I D, and we had a great time. So no problems there. And she wasn't a freelancer.

Had lunch two times at Laguna Cafe in Ayala. Very good food.

Witnessed two girls (one pregnant) getting into a catfight in Mango Sq. One of them took off her shoe and beat the other one over the head which made a pretty bad cut. Bleeding all over the place.

Had a beer at Gilligan's, which seems to be the meeting point for white guys. Nice atmosphere, everybody having a good time. Just wondering why everybody brought their Filipina children along?

Not sure where to go now. Thinking about visiting Bohol. Any advice on girls and where to stay there? (1-1. 500 p range). Or is Lapu Lapu a better choice in your opinion? Heard good things about both places, but also that the girls aren't as easily accessible. Any truth to that?

X Man
06-14-12, 03:59
Mactan places can be very nice. I believe any white sand beach you see has been shipped over from Bohol or elsewhere. I prefer Bohol over Mactan beaches. Ocean Jet ferry (used to be Pier 1) should get you to Tagbilaran in about 90min and then a taxi to Alona beach (or elsewhere). In your price range you might have to settle for something off the beach. There are numerous hotels with varying prices in the Alona beach area. You could probably just go there and walk around and find a place.


Been in Cebu a week now. Lots of fun.

Frenzy, thanks for the advice. But it turned out that she really just had forgotten her I D. She came back the next day, this time with I D, and we had a great time. So no problems there. And she wasn't a freelancer.

Had lunch two times at Laguna Cafe in Ayala. Very good food.

Witnessed two girls (one pregnant) getting into a catfight in Mango Sq. One of them took off her shoe and beat the other one over the head which made a pretty bad cut. Bleeding all over the place.

Had a beer at Gilligan's, which seems to be the meeting point for white guys. Nice atmosphere, everybody having a good time. Just wondering why everybody brought their Filipina children along?

Not sure where to go now. Thinking about visiting Bohol. Any advice on girls and where to stay there? (1-1. 500 p range). Or is Lapu Lapu a better choice in your opinion? Heard good things about both places, but also that the girls aren't as easily accessible. Any truth to that?

Red Kilt
06-14-12, 05:04
thinking about visiting bohol. any advice on girls and where to stay there? (1-1. 500 p range). or is lapu lapu a better choice in your opinion? heard good things about both places, but also that the girls aren't as easily accessible. any truth to that?bohol is not a good mongering destination. lots of girls from bohol on dia etc but there are only low-scale places there for you to try to meet girls.

there is not a good bar culture.

the society there is a very religious one (check out all the bible quotes on the backs of each tricycle) but cab drivers will know where to take you if you find one who isn't affronted by your request. just check whether rosary beads and sto nino figurines are all over his dashboard and rear-vision mirror.

you can find some stray pickups around alona beach but they will most likely be experienced freelancers who are there because that's where foreigners go.

much better to line up some women from chat sites to meet if you go there.

by the way; lapu lapu is only 10 to 15 minutes from sm mall in cebu and is a part of cebu city, same as mandaue etc. just get a cab there one night and check out the bars (read the cebu thread for the latest on bars in and around lapu lapu or lapu x2 as the locals call it).
it is not a separate place from cebu (like bohol or negros or siquijor for example).

X Man
06-15-12, 03:19
good info for newcomers, especially the ones who tend not to look at maps. ha, ha. mactan beaches are easily one day trips from central cebu city, but they have high access fees. i haven't done this in a long time, but i'm guessing about 500 pesos per person. there are girly bars in lapu2 near the bridges, on the opposite side of the island from the beaches. mermaid was always the best by far, but i haven't been there in a long time. from the aiport, just before the bridge to cebu city, you will pass mermaid on the right.

as for bohol, rk is correct in that you should set something up in advance. in my case i took a gal from cebu and on a subsequent visit met up with a bohol gal who i had met six months earlier in cebu.

rk -- clarification please. it is my understanding the mandaue, lapulapu and talisay are all independent cities adjacent to cebu city, all of which are in cebu province. x


bohol is not a good mongering destination. lots of girls from bohol on dia etc but there are only low-scale places there for you to try to meet girls.

there is not a good bar culture.

the society there is a very religious one (check out all the bible quotes on the backs of each tricycle) but cab drivers will know where to take you if you find one who isn't affronted by your request. just check whether rosary beads and sto nino figurines are all over his dashboard and rear-vision mirror.

you can find some stray pickups around alona beach but they will most likely be experienced freelancers who are there because that's where foreigners go.

much better to line up some women from chat sites to meet if you go there.

by the way; lapu lapu is only 10 to 15 minutes from sm mall in cebu and is a part of cebu city, same as mandaue etc. just get a cab there one night and check out the bars (read the cebu thread for the latest on bars in and around lapu lapu or lapu x2 as the locals call it).

it is not a separate place from cebu (like bohol or negros or siquijor for example).

Red Kilt
06-15-12, 04:39
RK -- clarification please. It is my understanding the Mandaue, LapuLapu and Talisay are all independent cities adjacent to Cebu city, all of which are in Cebu Province. XYes X Man you're right but only in the same sense that Quezon City, Pasay, Paranaque, Malate, Mandaluyong, Pasig City etc are all cities in Manila too but they are all connected and the boundaries are fuzzy.

The OP seemed to imply that he might prefer to go to Lapu lapu instead of Cebu; my point was simply to point out to him that is is adjacent to Cebu City and he need not change hotels etc just to check out Lapu Lapu.

SM Mall is in Mandaue but I have no idea where the boundary is between it and Cebu City. The taxi ride takes around 10 to 15 mins from Mango Ave and you would never know you are in a "different" city.
Talisay is a little further out but I have had DIA women take taxis from Minglanilla, Talisay, Toledo (on the other side of the island) etc to meet me in SM or Ayala Malls. The damage is sometimes 300 php but still easier and cheaper than me trekking to see them.

Stroker Ace88
06-15-12, 06:39
Yes X Man you're right but only in the same sense that Quezon City, Pasay, Paranaque, Malate, Mandaluyong, Pasig City etc are all cities in Manila too but they are all connected and the boundaries are fuzzy.I disagree. While the boundries are somewhat fuzzy to visitors, the locals and most expats who live in and around CC know where the lines are give or take.

The recent dispute between Cebu City Mayor Rama and the city council in Mandaue over some CC garbage trucks hauling there smelly load that drips waste water through Mandaue. That dispute has resulted in some Mandaue jeeps being denied entry to CC streets and vice versa. The end result has been a few new small boundary signs being installed between the two cities.

Personally the way I used to tell the boundary line marking CC from Mandaue was by the color of the traffic enforcers shirts. Cebu City CITOM has darker blue versus lighter blue in Mandaue. Traffic enforcers are instructed by there respective city halls to patrol the city boundries and give out tickets to so-called outsiders. LOL which is laughable.


The OP seemed to imply that he might prefer to go to Lapu lapu instead of Cebu; my point was simply to point out to him that is is adjacent to Cebu City and he need not change hotels etc just to check out Lapu Lapu.Most Cebu City taxi's will take you to Lapux2 for actual meter fare plus 50-100p depending on the destination and traffic conditions.


SM Mall is in Mandaue but I have no idea where the boundary is between it and Cebu City. The taxi ride takes around 10 to 15 mins from Mango Ave and you would never know you are in a "different" city.SM City Cebu is located in Cebu City, not Mandaue. Mabolo actually. There is also another SM in Consolacion "SM City Consolacion" and the SM Seaside City megamall currently under contruction at the SRP is also located within Cebu City limits. The only SM property in Mandaue is a hypermarket.

Red Kilt
06-15-12, 06:47
I disagree. While the boundries are somewhat fuzzy to visitors, the locals and most expats who live in and around CC know where the lines are give or take.I bow down to your superior knowledge Stroker but I think your trivia about boundaries and all the SM locations completely missed the overall point I was making in that it doesn't matter whether you are in Mandaue or Cebu City or Lapu Lapu as a monger because all are accessible by taxis.

What monger cares about garbage disputes or whether a boundary between Mandaue and Mabolo or whatever is this road or that? I certainly don't care what color shirts the traffic enforcers are wearing but if you are into that sort of analysis in your daily life then good luck to you.

I have lived in Manila for 15 years and I have no idea where the various city boundaries are here because I don't care and it doesn't affect my daily life and work one little bit. I suspect the same is true of most denizens of Cebu and surrounds.

I will defer to you as the resident Cebu expert in future (although Frenzy might be jealous LOL).