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PussyLiccker
10-16-14, 03:04
Believe me it is not that funny. You are trying to have your meal and just came back from a session and some 7 trying to convince you for another one. This happened to me in Samya...I appreciate Artemis and Oase policy about this. Very professional.That's hiliarious. Never heard of a guy being fondled his tube steak during his steak dinner. Poor Iceberg. Such a victim. LOL.
Member #4581
10-16-14, 03:19
I vaguely recall this porn scene from one of the early 1980's movies, perhaps Ginger Lynn or some one like that says "do you mind if I smoke while you are eating" as the guy is going down on her.
We could have a variant of that, this time the girl saying "do you mind if I slurp while you eat your steak" at your local FKK diner.
PussyLiccker
10-16-14, 03:28
I vaguely recall this porn scene from one of the early 1980's movies, perhaps Ginger Lynn or some one like that says "do you mind if I smoke while you are eating" as the guy is going down on her.
We could have a variant of that, this time the girl saying "do you mind if I slurp while you eat your steak" at your local FKK diner.
That's a nice line. Would make my night at the club whole if I were to be in that scene with a girl approaching me with that line. Maybe one day at Samya... One day... I may arrive one day there, and happen to be eating a steak and looking around.
Sounds like Iceberg is living the porn dream(or is it a porn nightmare for him?). Never thought a day would come where a guy would complain about dick molestation by a girl.
Hessen Bub
10-16-14, 12:17
I think about food not just the quality of food served also the ambience and style of service is very important. ...
think number one is Artemis. It has the advantage of both good quality food and nice ambience. WTF?! Food at Artemis sucks, also the layout and ambience of the restaurant.
HB.
WTF?! Food at Artemis sucks, also the layout and ambience of the restaurant.
HB.So you think paying 30-40 euro to Oase BS food is better? I think even both will be freee Artemis food is ten times better. At least you can find some salad. You can have your meal very quickly. And the quality I think better than Oase.
PussyLiccker
10-16-14, 13:12
So you think paying 30-40 euro to Oase BS food is better? I think even both will be freee Artemis food is ten times better. At least you can find some salad. You can have your meal very quickly. And the quality I think better than Oase.It's odd you like the food there. I don't see nothing, but gulage and rice there. I never thought Palace food was that great either. In terms of quality of food, it's Magnum, LR, and GT for me. Free BJ during dinner would bring it up the quality though. Oase food is included with the entry now.
It's odd you like the food there. I don't see nothing, but gulage and rice there. I never thought Palace food was that great either. In terms of quality of food, it's Magnum, LR, and GT for me. Free BJ during dinner would bring it up the quality though. Oase food is included with the entry now.The first meal for 10 Euro was included when I was there. I don't know still the same. Never been in Palace. But it looks like Palace will be my first target on 29.10. 2014. I am curious about there.
PussyLiccker
10-16-14, 14:12
The first meal for 10 Euro was included when I was there. I don't know still the same. Never been in Palace. But it looks like Palace will be my first target on 29.10. 2014. I am curious about there.They don't do that anymore. They have a buffet that is included in the entry now. Palace is not my club since I don't like old pros with sillies.
They don't do that anymore. They have a buffet that is included in the entry now. Palace is not my club since I don't like old pros with sillies.I am the only one being uncomforatable of the situation in Samya or is there any other like me? By the way for being fair I must tell Samya is a great place to be if the renovation ended. Quality of girls are good enough. For the newbies I don't want to make them afraid of Samya.
PussyLiccker
10-16-14, 20:31
I am the only one being uncomforatable of the situation in Samya or is there any other like me? By the way for being fair I must tell Samya is a great place to be if the renovation ended. Quality of girls are good enough. For the newbies I don't want to make them afraid of Samya.I would be uncomfortable also when the girls fondles my cock. Because I'd rather have it sucked.
Kidding, I know what you mean. You came back from a session and want to concentrate on your steak(not the tube kind) more than anything else. LOL.
Why don't they just serve kebab in FKK, it would be much more tastier and easier for both us and also for the house.
Why don't they just serve kebab in FKK, it would be much more tastier and easier for both us and also for the house.Yes Kebab is served.
At Samya is a proper Kebab rotary grill for lamb or chicken kebab to be cooked on the spit. There is proper yoghurts and accompanients to go along with the grilled meat.
Yes Kebab is served.
At Samya is a proper Kebab rotary grill for lamb or chicken kebab to be cooked on the spit. There is proper yogurts and accompanients to go along with the grilled meat.Oh! I did not know that one. Well since Artemis is owned by Turkish owner. Why not huh? Food is not that great at Artemis, so why not call upon their nations great dish, Kebab stand!
I would be uncomfortable also when the girls fondles my cock. Because I'd rather have it sucked. Kidding, I know what you mean. You came back from a session and want to concentrate on your steak (not the tube kind) more than anything else. LOL.Sometimes it goes the other way. One time I was at Palace and it was meal time. Plenty of people had lined up to get served, including the beautiful, blonde Czech Gina who was near the front of the line. Well, this short guy comes in there and walks right up to the front of the line to approach her. He requested that she leave with him so that he could session with her. Gina seemed a bit flustered, but she did leave with him. He must have made it worth her while financially too because I didn't see her for the rest of the night. Still, I thought what he did was kind of rude. I know there's no written rule (either for the girls or for the guys) about approaching somebody when they're trying to eat. But for me, that's a part of my "down time", and I don't want to be "solicited" when I'm trying to enjoy my meal. It is an unwritten rule that most everybody (including tricks and tutes alike) does abide by. Leave me be to my meat and potatoes! After all, this is Germany, so do as the Germans do LOL!
PussyLiccker
10-18-14, 00:49
TC, I thought you were going to say, some guy demanded a BJ in the dining room during dinner time. It would be something if somebody asks for one right smack in the center of dining room during dinner. I wonder if 100 E is enough to do that in Palace or will there be "extra?" LOL.
Mr. hore, Acapulco in velbert has the kabob machine on Friday nights. Friday night food isn't bad, but it's pretty repetitive with same o'l stuff. French fries, grilled chicken, pork, wings, wurst. Better than Oase grilled meats.
PussyLiccker
10-18-14, 14:45
Has anybody else noticed that for some strange reason the site software has started to show the word "he" in all caps?The spell check on here does some weird shit to the posts. Maybe there is way to turn it off.
Oh! I did not know that one. Well since Artemis is owned by Turkish owner. Why not huh? Food is not that great at Artemis, so why not call upon their nations great dish, Kebab stand!Because after a doner kebab or two, no girls will kiss you.
Mr. Ho,
It is because Kenan is a very germanised person or maybe there is some troubles with smoke for kebap. Anyway I am already happy with Artemis's european atmosphere.
Manny. There is no onion or garlic inside the doner but there can be some in shish kebap and it is cooked so I am not sure there will be a bad odour or not.
Mr. Ho,
It is because Kenan is a very germanised person or maybe there is some troubles with smoke for kebap. Anyway I am already happy with Artemis's european atmosphere.
Manny. There is no onion or garlic inside the doner but there can be some in shish kebap and it is cooked so I am not sure there will be a bad odour or not.For doners kebap, its not the meat that's "smelly," is all the onions and garlic and pepper sauces.
PussyLiccker
10-18-14, 23:53
Because after a doner kebab or two, no girls will kiss you.I take a pack of gum with me. I've been told time and time again that girls don't kiss bad breaths, and guys with stink. Although I think there is more than that. Some girls don't like the short fuzz around my mouth, and I shave it off for that reason.
Because after a doner kebab or two, no girls will kiss you.Haha, I often leave Artemis for kebab dinner in Charottenberg then come back I love the garlic sauce too.
It must be the kebab. LOL.
Haha, I often leave Artemis for kebab dinner in Charottenberg then come back I love the garlic sauce too.
It must be the kebab. LOL.Hi Mr. Ho.
I have a doner kebab just to keep the sharks away from me. Then I use the mouth wash for the girls I really want to meet. LOL.
FiddyCent.
""Do not eat garlic or onions; for their smell will reveal that you are a peasant. " Cervantes, Don Quixote.
I always have a miniature brand perfume in my locker. I shake a few drops on my chest after each shower. It's the equivalent for me of girls putting on a dab of make-up. Everything you can do not to put off girls is worth doing. I guess mouthwash is as much a signal as anything else. If a girl tastes or smells mouthwash on you lips she registers "hey, this guy is clean". Then she's less likely to fuss about other parts of your anatomy. Some FKKs have free mouthwash in the bathroom with tiny paper goblets at hand. Others have ready for a fee (an extortionate 5 euros in Oase if I remember right).
""Do not eat garlic or onions; for their smell will reveal that you are a peasant. " Cervantes, Don Quixote.
I always have a miniature brand perfume in my locker. I shake a few drops on my chest after each shower. It's the equivalent for me of girls putting on a dab of make-up. Everything you can do not to put off girls is worth doing. I guess mouthwash is as much a signal as anything else. If a girl tastes or smells mouthwash on you lips she registers "hey, this guy is clean". Then she's less likely to fuss about other parts of your anatomy. Some FKKs have free mouthwash in the bathroom with tiny paper goblets at hand. Others have ready for a fee (an extortionate 5 euros in Oase if I remember right).You are correct XXL. There is a mouthwash and toothbrush set Oase advertises for 5 Euros.
Onions and garlic are good for the body. I won't bother trying to be the naturopath. You can read about the benefits on line. Another good reason for eating garlic is it keeps the Vampires away. I am also fine being the peasant. Wouldn't want them to upsell me either. LOL.
FiddyCent.
This is eternal topic and wonders, it is funny how some girls kiss and some don't, is it because partly because of this movie pretty woman by Richard Gere, if so I resent that damn movie!
However, I had some nice girlfriend who fucks good and kiss amazing, but my best kissing experience was actually at German FKK. I mean there was this chick who was eating and sucking half of my face, I mean literally half of my face was in her mouth. I mean it was insane and she lick and suck your eye rid, nose. I mean I am still traumatize from this in positive ways.
I mean in German FKK, people complain about service level, but sometimes you get some real not just good but crazy service girl. Then more you spend they go even nuts. I mean also beside kissing, best anal sex I had was in German FKK. It is just insane how much pound these girls anal can take. German FKK is only place I can fuck girls ass with Pierre woodman style LOL When I am back home and sitting in cafe or I am in bed in the evening at my home reading book quietly I get some flashback of these insane sessions in German FKK.
I complain about some service level because most time it is bit. But once in awhile you get these girls that is just so good and crazy that I think these moments are the things I will think about in my death bed LOL it is that good!
When I meet girl in my private life that I want to date. I begin to calculate the cost that will incur with this normal girlfriend to what I can do in FKK. Guys. My private life is over. I am official addicted to German FKK, whoring around in Tokyo with some porn stars and hybrid girl and jerking off for the memories. I do not think I am sex addict as I am in control and I do not think about jumping on random girls. But I think I am Mike Tyson would say. A Prostitute hunter LOL.
I love prostitute! I cannot live with them, I cannot live without them LOL.
I love prostitute! I cannot live with them, I cannot live without them LOL.I love prostitution too Mr. Ho! What a great institution! Once I found out that I could fuck as many pretty girls as I wanted to without having to deal with their fickle emotional bullshit all the time, and without having to live a traditional life of bondage filled with debt from paying for a wife, a big house, two cars, and two or three kids, well that was it for me when it came to that other "great" institution known as marriage. Who needs marriage when I'm out here fucking all of these pretty girls nuts deep in their warm anuses? I don't even like to "regular" date anymore. No, what I like to do is to butt fuck these pretty tutes, then send them on their way to their boyfriends who are the ones who desire to wife them up. Yes, fuck them in their cornholes Pierre Woodman-style! This is why I like love the FKKs (and the Brazilian termas even more). Like Charlie Sheen said, we pay these tutes to leave once we're done buggering them in the ass LOL!
PussyLiccker
10-19-14, 15:28
LOL. Yes, you can run into some crazy sessions like that at times. Some of them are actually horny, and you notice the signs. Couple weird encounters I've had was where a girl grabbed me and immediately start DFK'ing on the couch.
Halloween falls on a Friday this year, wondered what that does to clubs like Oase and World? Do the girls dress up in costumes or is that only on party days?
Ray Reddington
10-19-14, 16:51
Any insights on the new FKK Oceans (will be run by Bert Wollersheim) to be opened soon in Dusseldorf (Oberhausener Str. 17)? If you do a google search, there's some press and a website. But no more info beyond that.
Thanks!
Ray
Halloween falls on a Friday this year, wondered what that does to clubs like Oase and World? Do the girls dress up in costumes or is that only on party days?I am also curious Halloween and this Reformation Day holiday will affect the line up in clubs? Or there will be a high male-female ratio because of holiday?
LOL. Yes, you can run into some crazy sessions like that at times. Some of them are actually horny, and you notice the signs. Couple weird encounters I've had was where a girl grabbed me and immediately start DFK'ing on the couch.Really in FKK, we sometimes get some real nympho girls and most of times it is classy looking girls with no tattoos etc. When I find one of those I extend my session and repeat and it get more and more insane.
Because of FKK, I cannot marry. This is not possible. If I marry I know for sure that I won't be sexually satisfied or she will divorce me due to intense sex.
FKK. If you have liking to it and once you are hooked, you cannot stop doing or thinking or getting flashback from it LOL.
FKK syndrome is scary thing and the memories often put smile on my face.
Halloween falls on a Friday this year, wondered what that does to clubs like Oase and World? Do the girls dress up in costumes or is that only on party days?If you want to be sure your chosen girl has a halloween outfit to wear for you then you can bring one for her. Usually there are many one size fits all type gear available.
At Oase these days there are many girls wearing crop tops, lingerie and panties even on the proper FKK days.
Whilst I am stuck in UK and until my next tour in the Philippines I thought I would try out the FKK scene as only 90.00 return to get there.
Can anyone recommend the best FKK club to go to?
I am a experienced monger and in the past have been to the FKK club in Prague.
Will promise to do a trip report when I get back!
Is that new big FKK opened yet?
If it is good, then it will be huge competition to Artemis.
LOL. Yes, you can run into some crazy sessions like that at times. Some of them are actually horny, and you notice the signs. Couple weird encounters I've had was where a girl grabbed me and immediately start DFK'ing on the couch.Mr Pussylicker,
Did you go with her after DFK you suddenly at the couch?
But yeah, I had some insane sex in my private life with normal girl, but in German FKK, I had some real intense session that no normal girl cannot beat, I mean these FKK girls, if they like you, they can really do crazy shit to you. Aren't we blessed!
PussyLiccker
10-21-14, 02:03
Mr Pussylicker,
Did you go with her after DFK you suddenly at the couch?
Yes, and repeated her many times. Blond German from Munich, looked quite good. The other one I met at Paradise when I was quite drunk one night, so I was clueless who it was when I went back.
Yes, and repeated her many times. Blond German from Munich, looked quite good. The other one I met at Paradise when I was quite drunk one night, so I was clueless who it was when I went back.Hahahaha, I would too.
Aren't we blessed.
Seriously all the madness I have to go through with relationship with normal girls, I recently begin to think FKK is much better and cheaper, only downside I can think of in FKK is you cannot go bareback, for safety I would not allow myself. Other than protected sex I cannot think of any downside of FKK! Whatta sex life!
Hi All,
My flight details are confirmed.
Will arrive in Dortmund 29.10. 2014 morning and planning to drive FRA from the airport and I will stay till 02.11. 2014. So I need basically;.
1) A good car rental website. Is there any website that you always use which is reliable? (rentalcarscom bullsheeted me last time despite I was happy with Europcar's service level.).
What dou you think about this car2 go thing. Maybe I take the train and then find the car2 go in Frankfurt.
2) A good hotel in Frankfurt in 50-100 Euro price range. I will hit Palace, Oase, Mainhattan and maybe Sharks. I prefer to stay in very central of the city. That will be my first time in FRA so will take a tour in the city.
By the way anyone wants to meet up. Just contact me. I am a good partner for saving sharks in FKK's.
Regards..
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RempNobbes
10-23-14, 19:06
A new club on Germanies FKK heaven. www.fkk-oceans.de . Direct on DUS international airport. Same style like Artemis Berlin. 200 girls should be there. Opening party soon. I will give you updates after the grand opening. Cheers RM.
Hessen Bub
10-23-14, 21:38
So you think paying 30-40 euro to Oase BS food is better? I think even both will be freee Artemis food is ten times better. At least you can find some salad. You can have your meal very quickly. And the quality I think better than Oase.You're not up to date. Oase food may not be good, but it is included in the 70€ admission. And if you want you can still order a pizza for 10€, but you can eat for free from the buffet. Breakfast was not that bad, they made scrambled and fried eggs to order if you want to.
HB.
2) A good hotel in Frankfurt in 50-100 Euro price range. I will hit Palace, Oase, Mainhattan and maybe Sharks. I prefer to stay in very central of the city. That will be my first time in FRA so will take a tour in the city."Holiday Inn Express Frankfurt City. Hauptbahnhof" is within the central station red-light district. I stayed there three times and I would do so again. You could stay there two or three days and do Palace & Manhattan per taxi (and the red-light district on foot), then later rent a car to do Oase and Sharks (and maybe book two other hotels near these FKKs). For Sharks I can recommend "Commundo Tagungshotel Darmstadt". Oase have 2 hotels they recommend, one is a Mercure.
You're not up to date. Oase food may not be good, but it is included in the 70 admission. And if you want you can still order a pizza for 10, but you can eat for free from the buffet. Breakfast was not that bad, they made scrambled and fried eggs to order if you want to.
HB.
I know Bub..I will re-visit it again possibly..Where will you be within this week? I can order a beer..
"Holiday Inn Express Frankfurt City. Hauptbahnhof" is within the central station red-light district. I stayed there three times and I would do so again. You could stay there two or three days and do Palace & Manhattan per taxi (and the red-light district on foot), then later rent a car to do Oase and Sharks (and maybe book two other hotels near these FKKs). For Sharks I can recommend "Commundo Tagungshotel Darmstadt". Oase have 2 hotels they recommend, one is a Mercure.My plan is hit the FKK's one day and hit the normal night clubs and citylife other day so may I ask city center is a good choice for this purpose?
And I will have wheels.
StarletVoyager
10-23-14, 22:58
Hotel savigny frankfurt city mgallery collection. Don't book direct go through one of the referal sites like booking.com. I had my own double room with patio last summer for around 60 euros. That was dead summer time though.
for ecaftnuc i would consider erasing the philipines from your travel plans and diverting all funds into a mega fkk tour. doubtless you will find some oriental girls in fkk land too. for mr ho this fkk thing is great i have been doing it 6 years but nothing would happen to me if i had to stop tomorrow self control is paramount or alternatively to hell with what i just said being surrounded by naked babes pestering you for sex is surely something only a few lucky men experience please enjoy!!!
For some serious reading of the fucking forum (RTFF) LOL!
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Hessen Bub
10-24-14, 04:10
I know Bub..I will re-visit it again possibly..Where will you be within this week? I can order a beer..
Which date exactly?
HB.
Which date exactly?
HB.I will be in Oase on 01.11. 2014 and in Mainhatten or maybe Palace on 29.10. 2014 (dessous tag attracting me and there are some good reports recently about there).
PussyLiccker
10-25-14, 02:37
Any of you guys notice having better chemistry with certain girls? For me it's girls of other ethnicity grew up in Germany like Morroccan or some other, or half German. Pure Germans it's a gamble and service tend to be low. Persians I've had luck with. Romanians, I find the newer young ones in the business I get better service with. Romanians when the service is good, they tend to be really good. Although you don't see as much of them as Romanians, Polish, Hungarian, and Bulgarians I've had good luck with in the room.
Do you guys notice running into girls of certain origin either providing better service or having good chemistry with? Also, do you run into them more at certain clubs over others?
Any of you guys notice having better chemistry with certain girls? For me it's girls of other ethnicity grew up in Germany like Morroccan or some other, or half German. Pure Germans it's a gamble and service tend to be low. Persians I've had luck with. Romanians, I find the newer young ones in the business I get better service with. Romanians when the service is good, they tend to be really good. Although you don't see as much of them as Romanians, Polish, Hungarian, and Bulgarians I've had good luck with in the room.
Do you guys notice running into girls of certain origin either providing better service or having good chemistry with? Also, do you run into them more at certain clubs over others?Some German girls tend to provide more intense service if she likes me, but most of times, it takes few sessions and in some case it took me several years going with her, but then I was allowed to anything almost and she had reputation of providing bad service to clients.
Also I noticed that most girls who I have chemistry and had most intense session with are from Central European origin. This is just me though.
Romanians, almost never except 2 girls who gave intense session, they were not newbie, but experienced girl, but they were good provider.
Hmmm for the rest, new girls sometimes give good service, but soon or later they notice that they don't have to.
I must say I love fucking a girl who just come to the club every time I see a new girl who is hot getting showed around the club by management, I always follow them and as soon as show around is over, then I take her to the room to break her virginity in new club! What a wonderful times!
Vito Corleone
10-25-14, 07:46
Any of you guys notice having better chemistry with certain girls? For me it's girls of other ethnicity grew up in Germany like Morroccan or some other, or half German. Pure Germans it's a gamble and service tend to be low. Persians I've had luck with. Romanians, I find the newer young ones in the business I get better service with. Romanians when the service is good, they tend to be really good. Although you don't see as much of them as Romanians, Polish, Hungarian, and Bulgarians I've had good luck with in the room.
Do you guys notice running into girls of certain origin either providing better service or having good chemistry with? Also, do you run into them more at certain clubs over others?Girls at Penelope give great service!
PussyLiccker
10-25-14, 17:07
I must say I love fucking a girl who just come to the club every time I see a new girl who is hot getting showed around the club by management, I always follow them and as soon as show around is over, then I take her to the room to break her virginity in new club! What a wonderful times!LOL. I was with a new girl at Magnum. Her first day in the job, and I was her first session. It was obvious. Polish girl grew up in Germany, no English. Smoking hot. Fortunately, she DFK'd, but wouldn't blow. Puzzling.
LOL. I was with a new girl at Magnum. Her first day in the job, and I was her first session. It was obvious. Polish girl grew up in Germany, no English. Smoking hot. Fortunately, she DFK'd, but wouldn't blow. Puzzling.Give her time. Before long she will be sucking much dick LOL! If she wants to stay in the game and make money, she will have to come around to sucking big boners. But the real question is this. Is she butt fucking? That's what we want to know hahahaha! I remember I met this one at Mainhattan who didn't want to go with married men (rolling eyes). Really? Married men make up a huge portion of the clientele! At least half but probably more. Well, I got a good session out of her, but she didn't last long in the game. Obviously not with that kind of "attitude". Heard she moved over to Oase and gave somebody over there the "dead fish performance". Glad I got a good fuck out of her before she quit LOL. Forget her name, but was a red-head hailing from Bulgaria.
LOL. I was with a new girl at Magnum. Her first day in the job, and I was her first session. It was obvious. Polish girl grew up in Germany, no English. Smoking hot. Fortunately, she DFK'd, but wouldn't blow. Puzzling.Hahaha mine was also polish at Artemis, this summer I was outside by the pool and I saw beauty getting showed around the club by management, I quickly got up like some animal who found the prey, I followed them and as soon as show around finish I went up to manager to ask if she is fresh meat, then after confirmation, I went up stairs to eat her. She was like "fuck me fuck me" when I was doing her doggy style what a good memory!
I love FKK!
Girls at Penelope give great service!Who was in the room with Paloma blonde girl, who works at Penelope in Essen? I ask because I heard it's very good. Can you say a few words about Paloma?
I am in Fra since yesterday. Was in Palace last night. It was good. I will report back in Palace thread.
But you wouldn't believe this. Today I was hanging around the city center on Zeil... The shopping street. A guy just fall down 5 meters away of me with a big crashing noise and a scream before. I was just bargaining with the bicycle car woman for a ride to apple wine district. And boom.He was one of the workers which is on the green building.. I am sure he is dead. Is this a sign that I must stop mongering? I am really impressed a lot. If anyone see the news on internet please share. I don't speak german so can't find.
IllusionHeart
10-30-14, 18:23
I am in Fra since yesterday. Was in Palace last night. It was good. I will report back in Palace thread.
But you wouldn't believe this. Today I was hanging around the city center on Zeil... The shopping street. A guy just fall down 5 meters away of me with a big crashing noise and a scream before. I was just bargaining with the bicycle car woman for a ride to apple wine district. And boom.He was one of the workers which is on the green building.. I am sure he is dead. Is this a sign that I must stop mongering? I am really impressed a lot. If anyone see the news on internet please share. I don't speak german so can't find.Iceberg27,
I am not Deutsche but the incident you seem to have witnessed is this one most probably.
http://www.fr-online.de/frankfurt/suizid-sturz-von-der-zeilgalerie, 1472798,28899786. Html.
Member #4581
10-30-14, 21:37
Sorry, not sure I understand the connection between his unfortunate accident and whether to continue or stop mongering.
I am in Fra since yesterday. Was in Palace last night. It was good. I will report back in Palace thread.
But you wouldn't believe this. Today I was hanging around the city center on Zeil... The shopping street. A guy just fall down 5 meters away of me with a big crashing noise and a scream before. I was just bargaining with the bicycle car woman for a ride to apple wine district. And boom.He was one of the workers which is on the green building.. I am sure he is dead. Is this a sign that I must stop mongering? I am really impressed a lot. If anyone see the news on internet please share. I don't speak german so can't find.
StarletVoyager
10-30-14, 22:33
This is an extremely sad suicide story iceberg but has nothing to do with you let alone being a sign stopping you from doing anything. it was just chance you were there at that time. Continue to enjoy all the girls and don't worry about anything.
Member #4347
10-30-14, 22:38
Iceberg27,
I am not Deutsche but the incident you seem to have witnessed is this one most probably.
http://www.fr-online.de/frankfurt/suizid-sturz-von-der-zeilgalerie, 1472798,28899786. Html.This is my summary of what the short newspaper article says:
'A man died today after jumping off the Zeilgalerie building terrace in Frankfurt am Main in what is believed to be suicide. According to witnesses he had stated a death wish when he was at the roof café moments before the jump. '.
Nille Copenhagen
10-31-14, 00:41
I am in Fra since yesterday. Was in Palace last night. It was good. I will report back in Palace thread.
But you wouldn't believe this. Today I was hanging around the city center on Zeil... The shopping street. A guy just fall down 5 meters away of me with a big crashing noise and a scream before. I was just bargaining with the bicycle car woman for a ride to apple wine district. And boom.He was one of the workers which is on the green building.. I am sure he is dead. Is this a sign that I must stop mongering? I am really impressed a lot. If anyone see the news on internet please share. I don't speak German so can't find.Wow you are very unlucky to experience this incident or lucky that the man didn't fell on you.
You can take a break, but don't quit LOL.
See ya Ice Are you still around I'm in FRA on Sunday.
Sorry, not sure I understand the connection between his unfortunate accident and whether to continue or stop mongering.I am muslim and it is a big sin in islam to have sex a woman that you are not married.I dont want to involve in a discussion about this.just wanted to explain for you....I was cumming into the mouths last night...Lol...
Also idiot me had sex with a street hooker in Budapest without condom. So you know the quote; when your dick gets hard your brain be soft.
This is an extremely sad suicide story iceberg but has nothing to do with you let alone being a sign stopping you from doing anything. it was just chance you were there at that time. Continue to enjoy all the girls and don't worry about anything.I met one friend tonight and I am better now. Will go to sharks on Friday probably.
This is my summary of what the short newspaper article says:
'A man died today after jumping off the Zeilgalerie building terrace in Frankfurt am Main in what is believed to be suicide. According to witnesses he had stated a death wish when he was at the roof caf moments before the jump. '.Thanks for the translation but link is not working. The issue is not on the news?
Quitting mongering? How dare you my dear brother! Don't be confused about the direction in life, as much as we may get criticized from normal world! In our secret life, we are Pro mongers who cannot get enough of beautiful pussies of beautiful girls from around the European regions! In my case bit of Half Japanese / Half white girls also!
Please let nothing confuse pro mongers, once a monger always will be mongers and we won't stop because we know where the real fun is!
Seriously I am so hooked to fucking and I won't be able to quit! It is incredible how many times I flew into Germany to have insane sex and I will always do so till the day I die.
Let no man, no woman or nothing in between you and beautiful pussies of beautiful girls!
Nille Copenhagen
10-31-14, 17:34
Quitting mongering? How dare you my dear brother! Don't be confused about the direction in life, as much as we may get criticized from normal world! In our secret life, we are Pro mongers who cannot get enough of beautiful pussies of beautiful girls from around the European regions! In my case bit of Half Japanese / Half white girls also!
Please let nothing confuse pro mongers, once a monger always will be mongers and we won't stop because we know where the real fun is!
Seriously I am so hooked to fucking and I won't be able to quit! It is incredible how many times I flew into Germany to have insane sex and I will always do so till the day I die.
Let no man, no woman or nothing in between you and beautiful pussies of beautiful girls!You will stop when you don't have more money haha!
StarletVoyager
10-31-14, 19:33
How easy is it to find half japanese half white girls for a foreigner who doesn't speak japanese and also japanese girls in general as they are very nice? Any tips would be great.
Hessen Bub
10-31-14, 21:33
How easy is it to find half japanese half white girls for a foreigner who doesn't speak japanese and also japanese girls in general as they are very nice? Any tips would be great.Where? In German FKK? Very hard. In Japan? No idea but wrong thread.
HB.
How easy is it to find half japanese half white girls for a foreigner who doesn't speak japanese and also japanese girls in general as they are very nice? Any tips would be great.You have to come to Japan, then look for them in so called Delivery Health, it is like escort service here, but you only can get your dick sucked and ass licked etc but no penetration as it is illegal, of course if you two hit it off then it is possible.
However, if you are talking just looks of Half Asian Half Euro and not particularly care about half being Japanese exclusively, then go to Philippines, there was american base there and these american soldiers fucked so many Filipina to prodc half Philippine half white girls.
A lot of these hybrid girls works in KTV in Manila etc and you can fuck them. They are harder to find and you got to dig, but I had nice time with them in 2008 as I made sex trip especially to fuck hybrid girls, some of them you ca fuck bareback but careful with STD (I was lucky not to get any). And they speak English in Manila, be careful of rip off there though. But you can fuck them easily for 100 USD not even, for quality one 100 USD to 200 USD, for this price you are getting ripped off but I got real good hybrid girls. So Philippines is the place for you if you want to fuck hybrid girls.
Now I have questions:
On the same note, are there any SAFE or safer luxury sex club in Europe where I can fuck beautiful girls bareback? I do not mind paying more for safety and also quality of looks of the girls.
Also what is this swing club all about? Are girls in swing clubs pro girls or amateur who want to fuck? If you guys now recommended swing clubs in EU with good looking girls, let me know and its system, I am interested to try out other system to FKK.
PussyLiccker
11-01-14, 00:29
I posted way back about Eurasian girls that I've found images online. They were mixed of Philipino and Caucasian. Philipino Celebrities I believe. They are very attractive. People responded stating that they are not commonly available for P4P. I would think half white Japanese would be even more rare. Is there a country where Eurasians are most common for P4P? I find Eurasians to be very pretty. By Eurasians, I don't mean girls from the area that overlap the two continents, but the the girls of European and Asian mixture. Maybe the area that overlap the continents has those genes.
Mix would look something like this. Is this a good mix or is this a good mix?
I posted way back about Eurasian girls that I've found images online. They were mixed of Philipino and Caucasian. Philipino Celebrities I believe. They are very attractive. People responded stating that they are not commonly available for P4P. I would think half white Japanese would be even more rare. Is there a country where Eurasians are most common for P4P? I find Eurasians to be very pretty. By Eurasians, I don't mean girls from the area that overlap the two continents, but the the girls of European and Asian mixture. Maybe the area that overlap the continents has those genes.
Mix would look something like this. Is this a good mix or is this a good mix?Any place in Asia where there are or were american military base has this mixed race girls.
In mania you do find them, but you got to dig by doing KTV hopping.
On the same note, are there any SAFE or safer luxury sex club in Europe where I can fuck beautiful girls bareback? I do not mind paying more for safety and also quality of looks of the girls..Mr Ho,
I just wondered about this question of yours?
There is no place where BBFFs is safe. Some places may be safer than others, but that is as far as you can go. Obviously a club in Germany which advertises regular checks would, on paper, be better than fucking a doped street girl in South Africa. But don't kid yourself, when you fuck BB, you take a risk. Worth taking? That's your call, and many on this forum have answered this question, see the AO thread. Again, your choice, but no, it is not, safe!
Having said that, reading you is always such a pleasure, your candid assessment of mongering life makes me smile every time I read you.
I am off soon to Japan, a place where I love mongering. Funny that you fly here and I fly there. Grass is always greener elsewhere!
Cheers
Hessen Bub
11-01-14, 11:44
There are no high class BBFS clubs in Germany. There are the RTC in Dietzenbach, Bochum, Gelsenkirchen, Duisburg.
HB.
There are no high class BBFS clubs in Germany. There are the RTC in Dietzenbach, Bochum, Gelsenkirchen, Duisburg.
HB.Thank you! But what is RTC? And its system? Do I pay entry or?
Are there any hot chicks in RTC?
Hessen Bub
11-01-14, 14:43
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3419-FKK-Arabella-Villa-Venus-Sauna-Grimberg-NRW-AO-Clubs
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3374-FKK-Dietzenbach
Those are the RTC (Rote Teppich Clubs). They have differing pricing models, you either pay entry (30 EUR) and another 30 EUR per session (BBFS, CIM, ANAL included, ANAL covered and if the girl offers it). At Dietzenbach it ist 70 EUR including 1 session, 100 for 2 sessions, 120 for 3 sessions. You have to decide when you enter. Girls looks average below FKK clubs like Oase, GT, Sharks etc. But sometimes you find a gem in there as well.
HB.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3419-FKK-Arabella-Villa-Venus-Sauna-Grimberg-NRW-AO-Clubs
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3374-FKK-Dietzenbach
Those are the RTC (Rote Teppich Clubs). They have differing pricing models, you either pay entry (30 EUR) and another 30 EUR per session (BBFS, CIM, ANAL included, ANAL covered and if the girl offers it). At Dietzenbach it ist 70 EUR including 1 session, 100 for 2 sessions, 120 for 3 sessions. You have to decide when you enter. Girls looks average below FKK clubs like Oase, GT, Sharks etc. But sometimes you find a gem in there as well.
HB.Ah okey, thank you HB! I shall stick to FKK club then For me look of the girl is most important thing and so far in Germany FKK is the best place for good looking girls I know that I can see and choose.
Escort is good, but it is bit like Lotto. You cannot see first and choose.
I stick to FKK.
But I would not mind FKK where it is slightly more expensive but better looking girls with better service.
Artemis is slightly more expensive, but looks and service wise I find it same as other major FKK in Germany.
I wonder how it will be for Grand Palais in Potsdam. I shall see next year!
PussyLiccker
11-02-14, 20:02
LOL. I was with a new girl at Magnum. Her first day in the job, and I was her first session. It was obvious. Polish girl grew up in Germany, no English. Smoking hot. Fortunately, she DFK'd, but wouldn't blow. Puzzling.
Hahaha mine was also polish at Artemis, this summer I was outside by the pool and I saw beauty getting showed around the club by management, I quickly got up like some animal who found the prey, I followed them and as soon as show around finish I went up to manager to ask if she is fresh meat, then after confirmation, I went up stairs to eat her. She was like "fuck me fuck me" when I was doing her doggy style what a good memory!
I love FKK!I spotted this girl in the evening and followed her to the outside area where she was heading. I touched her arm and she igored me and walked to her group of friends and sat down. I really didn't care if would turn out to be a bad session, she just sprang into my radar because of her looks, and I was determined to take her too the room no matter what. Talked to her, but find out that she only speaks German as she was sitting with German girls. She understand basic English, but not enough to have a good conversation. I was determined so I took her to the room. She seemed kinda shy or just didn't seem too enthused and language barrier didn't help. Then she tells me it's her first day there, and later in the room I find out I'm her first working customer. Then it just all made sense why she seem too enthusiastic. Of course the session was not like how it is with a more experienced girl, but DFK is high on the must list and she did it. It almost felt like she didn't know what to do or her first time having sex. But, she felt very GFE.
What was the kicker is when I handed her the money. Her face lit up, and she was so happy. So, it seems that she showed up the evening and wasn't into it, until she tried and got paid. Now she realizes what it's all about after being paid. :D
God, I hope to see her again, and this time hopefully she will give me a bj. :D
I spotted this girl in the evening and followed her to the outside area where she was heading. I touched her arm and she igored me and walked to her group of friends and sat down. I really didn't care if would turn out to be a bad session, she just sprang into my radar because of her looks, and I was determined to take her too the room no matter what. Talked to her, but find out that she only speaks German as she was sitting with German girls. She understand basic English, but not enough to have a good conversation. I was determined so I took her to the room. She seemed kinda shy or just didn't seem too enthused and language barrier didn't help. Then she tells me it's her first day there, and later in the room I find out I'm her first working customer. Then it just all made sense why she seem too enthusiastic. Of course the session was not like how it is with a more experienced girl, but DFK is high on the must list and she did it. It almost felt like she didn't know what to do or her first time having sex. But, she felt very GFE.
What was the kicker is when I handed her the money. Her face lit up, and she was so happy. So, it seems that she showed up the evening and wasn't into it, until she tried and got paid. Now she realizes what it's all about after being paid. :D
God, I hope to see her again, and this time hopefully she will give me a bj. :DHahahaha! Nice one Pussyicker!
I love doing first timer girl, they remember you!
But hey, they have been working in other clubs before though.
Hmmm where should I go to get fresh meet like first timer for all FKK girl?
Maybe more smaller club is better huh?
I want to be more rich so I can employ German pimp to inform me new girl in business so I can be the first paid sex guy in her life.
I treat girl nice but I got this obsessed fetish of being first.
God, I hope to see her again, and this time hopefully she will give me a bj. :DGosh! She didn't blow you ?? I would have thought even if it was her first day, and first time in this profession, she would have come listening to all the rules and stories of the trade, so she should have followed that. Sad she didn't do it. But as long as you enjoyed as you say you had a GFE session. I guess it justifies her action. Good For you :) Its always exciting to take a girl to the room on a day which happens her first day at the club and if it is like her first day in the trade, Whoa !! it is like fucking a virgin :D
Joiner Lanz
11-03-14, 19:51
Hi all,
Sorry to barge in all of a sudden. I've done some searching but haven't found my question discussed before.
Do people visit FKK clubs alone, or is it normal to go as a group?
I'm debating with my friend. He wants to go as a group, whereas my intuition tells me it would be more enjoyable as a solo experience. He hasn't paid for sex before, whereas I have, but only a few times in Amsterdam in the Red Light District.
StarletVoyager
11-04-14, 01:33
I visited globe in zurich in 2010. It costs around 230 euro for an hour. Some may disagree with me but I have never been to a club with so many 9/10 and even 10/10 girls all in one place. There are girls in german clubs equally as good looking but I stress the point that in zurich they were all in one club together so the percentage of very good looking girls was very high at globe. Some have described globe as the best pay for play place in the world. If I were richer I would return but at the moment I can still find attractive girls in Germany cheaper I just have to search harder. the girls at globe all seemed to share in common a busty chest with a slim athletic build and naturally very pretty faces. just my observations. also the service was out of this world constantly.
UltraHappy
11-04-14, 01:50
Hi all,
Sorry to barge in all of a sudden. I've done some searching but haven't found my question discussed before.
Do people visit FKK clubs alone, or is it normal to go as a group?
I'm debating with my friend. He wants to go as a group, whereas my intuition tells me it would be more enjoyable as a solo experience. He hasn't paid for sex before, whereas I have, but only a few times in Amsterdam in the Red Light District.Both are common and normal. Going as a group is great if you're going to be there for 10-12 hours during the day, because then you have guys to hang out with between sessions. Nice to swap stories, etc.
Going solo is great too.
One thing is for certain: Being inside the FKK is always better than being outside the FKK, regardless of whether you are solo or in a group!
I visited globe in zurich in 2010. It costs around 230 euro for an hour. Some may disagree with me but I have never been to a club with so many 9/10 and even 10/10 girls all in one place. There are girls in german clubs equally as good looking but I stress the point that in zurich they were all in one club together so the percentage of very good looking girls was very high at globe. Some have described globe as the best pay for play place in the world. If I were richer I would return but at the moment I can still find attractive girls in Germany cheaper I just have to search harder. the girls at globe all seemed to share in common a busty chest with a slim athletic build and naturally very pretty faces. just my observations. also the service was out of this world constantly.I also hear about Babylon in Austria being good.
Problem in Switzerland is the prices of the stay. Hotels are very pricey there. And food.
For sessions I do not mind paying but for staying. Germany is much cheaper for food and also hotels. If I can clear the accommodations in Zurich, then I be there often than Germany.
StarletVoyager
11-04-14, 07:05
I went on a solo adventure to FKK goldentime in vienna last may then I took the train first class to frankfurt 7 hours through the lovely countryside. My observations at goldentime were strange to say the least. Basically the girls had killer stunning bodies but on the whole they were not so facially attractive. There were some sweet faces but not many as in german clubs. As for babylon avoid it they charge hundreds of euros and for that I was told by the goldentime girls you will get a very nice meal in a mansion then sex with goldentime girls dressed up in elaborate dresses etc. Ie the same girls nothing special about it. I would stress that a visit to zurich at least once to experience it is well worth while. Apart from the wonders of globe,(do not visit any other clubs like bumsaulp as IMHO they do not compete with globe as I also visited bumsaulp and left quickly back to globe.) You also have the lovely old town altstadt in zurich and a cruise on lake zurich is a must. It is different to Germany with swiss flags everywhere all year round due to their proud heritage and neutrality. At globe if you finish after 29 minutes you get another 1 minute massage to 30 mins. Amazing. One way I am thinking to visit zurich again is by basing myself in frankfurt and taking the 4 hour train journey to zurich for a few days and back to frankfurt again. It is bloody expensive though!!LOL the easy hotel is the cheapest in zurich and when I went there in 2010 I rented a flat for a week to save money for the girls. zurich however is not worth going to regularly unless you can afford it with no issues. monday and thursday are the killer days at globe alles girls naked.
Quitting mongering? How dare you my dear brother! Don't be confused about the direction in life, as much as we may get criticized from normal world! In our secret life, we are Pro mongers who cannot get enough of beautiful pussies of beautiful girls from around the European regions! In my case bit of Half Japanese / Half white girls also!
Please let nothing confuse pro mongers, once a monger always will be mongers and we won't stop because we know where the real fun is!
Seriously I am so hooked to fucking and I won't be able to quit! It is incredible how many times I flew into Germany to have insane sex and I will always do so till the day I die.
Let no man, no woman or nothing in between you and beautiful pussies of beautiful girls!Mr. Ho,
I think you should definitely try Uzbekistan. Perfect match for your taste.
Also the guy jumped from the terrace of Zeilgallerie had been a secret. I could only found a paragraph in a website. No more info. He is dead by the way.
But that of course couldn't stop me mongering in FRA. I have visited Palace, Sharks and Mainhattan. I think I deserve a medal of honour since I am an experienced mongerer anymore in FKK area as someone has seen NRW-FRA and Berlin.
By the way my story in Budapest just before I come to Frankfurt can be interesting to read. As follows;.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?692-Budapest&p=1640926&viewfull=1#post1640926.
PussyLiccker
11-04-14, 21:59
Mr. Vanella Iceberg, please provide some details on Uzbekistan. I assume there is no FKK like places and girls don't speak English, and you have to know some Uzbekistani. Where to find P4 P there? Bars? Stripclubs? Like to get with some Uzbekistani girls. :)
Mr. Vanella Iceberg, please provide some details on Uzbekistan. I assume there is no FKK like places and girls don't speak English, and you have to know some Uzbekistani. Where to find P4 P there? Bars? Stripclubs? Like to get with some Uzbekistani girls. :)Just check Prosal's posts in the thread. I never been but since they are also a kind of turk, language wouldn't be a big problem for me. Of course there is no FKK there but great value for money.
Mr. Vanella Iceberg, please provide some details on Uzbekistan. I assume there is no FKK like places and girls don't speak English, and you have to know some Uzbekistani. Where to find P4 P there? Bars? Stripclubs? Like to get with some Uzbekistani girls. :)I have some of my wildest, deepest sessions with Uzbek girls. Maybe three times I was lucky to meet girls from here. In each case, however, the Uzbek girls always spoke Russian and a bit of English, but they spoke Russian like natives.
O.
Mr. Ho,
I think you should definitely try Uzbekistan. Perfect match for your taste.
Also the guy jumped from the terrace of Zeilgallerie had been a secret. I could only found a paragraph in a website. No more info. He is dead by the way.
But that of course couldn't stop me mongering in FRA. I have visited Palace, Sharks and Mainhattan. I think I deserve a medal of honour since I am an experienced mongerer anymore in FKK area as someone has seen NRW-FRA and Berlin.
By the way my story in Budapest just before I come to Frankfurt can be interesting to read. As follows;.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?692-Budapest&p=1640926&viewfull=1#post1640926.Uhmmmmm Uzbek girls? Depend because I like European oriented face and some Uzbek are too Asian looking, but I know some Uzbek looks like EuroAsian girl, you know hybrid type.
My type is central European girls. German, Austrian and Hungarian, Czech, these are my favorite beauties and model type the better but I do try out some eastern European girls and they looks nice too, but I like this elegant look of central European girls.
PussyLiccker
11-05-14, 00:03
By the way my story in Budapest just before I come to Frankfurt can be interesting to read. As follows;.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?692-Budapest&p=1640926&viewfull=1#post1640926.I enjoyed reading this report. One of the best I've read. So vivid and detailed.
Where are the Hessen reports you were promising?
If you get sick of FKK food, the restaurant is called Caravan. The manager looks pure Eastern Asian to me. And a few of the workers look Kazakh or some other Central Asian. The staff speak Russian, English, and German and they serve a few Russian dishes as well.
If you get sick of FKK food, the restaurant is called Caravan. The manager looks pure Eastern Asian to me. And a few of the workers look Kazakh or some other Central Asian. The staff speak Russian, English, and German and they serve a few Russian dishes as well.I love Pilaf!
I enjoyed reading this report. One of the best I've read. So vivid and detailed.
Where are the Hessen reports you were promising?Thanks PL.
This one took to write all my night. I will write Palace-Sharks and Mainhattan probably on Friday.
Cheers.
Thanks PL.
This one took to write all my night. I will write Palace-Sharks and Mainhattan probably on Friday.
Cheers.I saw PL's recommendation, so I searched for, and read, your story. Brilliant! Kudos for trying something like that. Quite an adventure.
I saw PL's recommendation, so I searched for, and read, your story. Brilliant! Kudos for trying something like that. Quite an adventure.Thanks Frozty. By the way who is Kudos? I have a lot of time to RTFF in hometown, mongering dessert.
LOL.
PussyLiccker
11-05-14, 22:37
Uhmmmmm Uzbek girls? Depend because I like European oriented face and some Uzbek are too Asian looking, but I know some Uzbek looks like EuroAsian girl, you know hybrid type.
My type is central European girls. German, Austrian and Hungarian, Czech, these are my favorite beauties and model type the better but I do try out some eastern European girls and they looks nice too, but I like this elegant look of central European girls.MrHo. I like Central Euro girls too, and much more so especially the platinum blond types with blue eyes. Atleast used to. Unfortunately, there hasn't been too many of them let alone hot ones I've ran into, and it's more desolate of those types and now even of those ethnecities. More German girls I do, statistically the average servel level drop with them, and to the point I don't find them as attractive as before. I've been around many clubs and especially the NRW, and ran into lots of hot Romanians that provide excellent service, and I find them equally attractive now. Sure there are lots of them, and can find the bad ones, but if you can find some really good looking ones that give you good service. Romanians are so diverse in looks, and there are some killer looking ones that I've ran into. At this point, no real preference for what nationality, but I'm more open to all ethnicities as I've seen some killer looking girls from other places like Bosnia, Serbia, persians, and etc. I think as long as they got a pretty face, I really don't care where they are from. Russians are killer though, but you don't see them.
I only had one luck with platinum blond German girl with blue eyes. Tuesday at LR she was there one day. Most beautiful German girl I've seen, and ideally I had on my mind that this is what I think of when imagining ideal hot German girl, and there she was in this small club LR. To top it off, awsome service. No German girl can match her in looks. So, this is why I check out many clubs. Who knows what girl may show up at a club.
Thanks Frozty. By the way who is Kudos? I have a lot of time to RTFF in hometown, mongering dessert.
LOL.Kudos = exceptional praise.
MrHo. I like Central Euro girls too, and much more so especially the platinum blond types with blue eyes. Atleast used to. Unfortunately, there hasn't been too many of them let alone hot ones I've ran into, and it's more desolate of those types and now even of those ethnecities. More German girls I do, statistically the average servel level drop with them, and to the point I don't find them as attractive as before. I've been around many clubs and especially the NRW, and ran into lots of hot Romanians that provide excellent service, and I find them equally attractive now. Sure there are lots of them, and can find the bad ones, but if you can find some really good looking ones that give you good service. Romanians are so diverse in looks, and there are some killer looking ones that I've ran into. At this point, no real preference for what nationality, but I'm more open to all ethnicities as I've seen some killer looking girls from other places like Bosnia, Serbia, persians, and etc. I think as long as they got a pretty face, I really don't care where they are from. Russians are killer though, but you don't see them.
I only had one luck with platinum blond German girl with blue eyes. Tuesday at LR she was there one day. Most beautiful German girl I've seen, and ideally I had on my mind that this is what I think of when imagining ideal hot German girl, and there she was in this small club LR. To top it off, awsome service. No German girl can match her in looks. So, this is why I check out many clubs. Who knows what girl may show up at a club.Yeah I am still haunted by German blonde girl I met in Artemis just for one summer. I took her 4 days in row and wow she was hot, sweet nice and best service.
Central European girls are the most beauty and dirty for my taste.
Romanians. I never had good experience service wise, but I know there are few stunners.
Bulgarians. I met this hot blonde blue eye natural Bulgarian who was so kinky this summer crazy sessions LOL.
I want to be more rich so I can employ German pimp to inform me new girl in business so I can be the first paid sex guy in her life...Must be a Japanese thing. You know, like paying a lot of money for a virgin. Now me, I'm happy just being the first one that night hahahahaha! Your fantasy of a pimp to inform you of the newest talent is not just fantasy either.
I have a buddy who gets notified by "mamasan" whenever there is quality new talent for him to try. She sends a text message to inform him, and then he tries to be the first man ever to fuck the new girls in the ass! Some of the best pimps are the women themselves.
I had one set me up with some pretty, tight, 20 year-old pussy in Costa Rica once. I don't normally deal with pimps in any kind of formal way at all, but that turned out to be a damn good decision! She set me up for the mere "fee" of a cocktail for her LOL! Hell, I had even fucked the now pimp in the past!
I saw the 20 year-old thanking the female pimp for steering business her way. Now, whether or not the pimp got a cut of the money I do not know. That was between them. All I know is that pimping and worldwide tricking is not easy hahaha!
Must be a Japanese thing. You know, like paying a lot of money for a virgin. Now me, I'm happy just being the first one that night hahahahaha! Your fantasy of a pimp to inform you of the newest talent is not just fantasy either.
I have a buddy who gets notified by "mamasan" whenever there is quality new talent for him to try. She sends a text message to inform him, and then he tries to be the first man ever to fuck the new girls in the ass! Some of the best pimps are the women themselves.
I had one set me up with some pretty, tight, 20 year-old pussy in Costa Rica once. I don't normally deal with pimps in any kind of formal way at all, but that turned out to be a damn good decision! She set me up for the mere "fee" of a cocktail for her LOL! Hell, I had even fucked the now pimp in the past!
I saw the 20 year-old thanking the female pimp for steering business her way. Now, whether or not the pimp got a cut of the money I do not know. That was between them. All I know is that pimping and worldwide tricking is not easy hahaha!Yeah I love fresh girl. It is in my blood.
Dealing with pimp can be dangerous as they can set you up with some things you did not commit to charge you more. Especially in third world nation.
But I wish I can set up the system or way to get new girl to FKK industry as first client. I will take them for few hours for sure, German would be the best.
FKK is great support system for me as when I mess things up with dating normal girl in my private life. I always say to myself " what a hec, I got FKK girls waiting for me" LOL.
I do not get desperate thanks to FKK! So much sex memories and even some level of friendship with FKK girls.
PussyLiccker
11-10-14, 02:50
Now me, I'm happy just being the first one that night hahahahaha! Yeah being the first has lots of benefits of course. I've been with girls that would get into it one session and then later get all tired. One girl I promised to meet her at a certain time, and I was late by a few hours, and she told me she got off with some other dude. Not as memorable as the first. Another girl that got off on our second session who I took to the room before closing, she was tired and not as good, and she just wasn't into it because she's been with too many guys that night and she got off earlier. So, it's best to get with a girl earlier before they get off and starts getting real bored with sessions. Especially those that do lots off rooms.
Getting with a girl after you see them go in and out of the room several times is pretty not a good idea. I've been with one at the end of the day, and she complained her pussy was sore.
All the ones that I've had good chemistry in the room were girls that I was the first one for their work day. Couple times were quite interesting. There was no way for me to know they were waiting to get off. One was quite distant outside the room, and just took her. The other, no signs of how it would be. What's common to all is that I was the first session.
Yeah being the first has lots of benefits of course. I've been with girls that would get into it one session and then later get all tired. One girl I promised to meet her at a certain time, and I was late by a few hours, and she told me she got off with some other dude. Not as memorable as the first. Another girl that got off on our second session who I took to the room before closing, she was tired and not as good, and she just wasn't into it because she's been with too many guys that night and she got off earlier. So, it's best to get with a girl earlier before they get off and starts getting real bored with sessions. Especially those that do lots off rooms.
Getting with a girl after you see them go in and out of the room several times is pretty not a good idea. I've been with one at the end of the day, and she complained her pussy was sore.
All the ones that I've had good chemistry in the room were girls that I was the first one for their work day. Couple times were quite interesting. There was no way for me to know they were waiting to get off. One was quite distant outside the room, and just took her. The other, no signs of how it would be. What's common to all is that I was the first session.Haha depend though, some girls want one or two clients before me so that I can do her harder because she want to get used to penis before someone pound her hard and sometimes I like doing girls hard like woodman style.
Mentally, I much prefer fresh girls as you say so I can do DATY with no worries, you know what I mean.
Eastern Europeans have easily identifiable facial features. Don't you agree?
StarletVoyager
11-10-14, 20:48
East european girls come in a multitude of forms from oriental looking to indianish to blonde haired and blue eyed. A complete diversity I reckon. I tell by linguistics more.
East european girls come in a multitude of forms from oriental looking to indianish to blonde haired and blue eyed. A complete diversity I reckon. I tell by linguistics more.That is true, but very different from western european / english genes.
PussyLiccker
11-11-14, 14:35
Haha depend though, some girls want one or two clients before me so that I can do her harder because she want to get used to penis before someone pound her hard and sometimes I like doing girls hard like woodman style.
Mentally, I much prefer fresh girls as you say so I can do DATY with no worries, you know what I mean.Yeah, when they are new for the day, girl's pussy are closed up before anything gets them excited. As they have much action they open up. Also, when they are horny they open up and you don't want to try to finger her when she is closed dry state. I've had better luck with fingering girls after some long kissing or DATY if you see her pussy seems wet although lots of girl puts on gel. I don't like the gel, but I understand that they have to fuck many rubbers all day so they have to lube it up. This is why that one girl's girl's pussy was sore at the end of the day.
Yeah, when they are new for the day, girl's pussy are closed up before anything gets them excited. As they have much action they open up. Also, when they are horny they open up and you don't want to try to finger her when she is closed dry state. I've had better luck with fingering girls after some long kissing or DATY if you see her pussy seems wet although lots of girl puts on gel. I don't like the gel, but I understand that they have to fuck many rubbers all day so they have to lube it up. This is why that one girl's girl's pussy was sore at the end of the day.I love putting finger in dry closed pussy!
I always love going first because it is tight, but sometimes girls restrict me from fucking her from the back when I am the first guy of the day;.
On the side note, I am thinking of stopping all the personal relationships with normal girls now as it is costing me too much and I begin to think that if I just spend that much money on FKK girls, sexual experience I will have in my life will be much greater by far than having relationship with normal girls.
I begin to think having relationship with normal girls are waste of money and time comparison to some of my crazy sexual experiences in FKK. I actually become friends with some girls too.
Only down side of FKK is you have to use condom, but you can do so much more staffs in FKK than sex with normal girls in relationship.
FKK out perform normal girl relationship? I begin to think so. What do you guys think about this dilemma I am having right now?
With normal girls in relationship, it is so messed up in every way and even sex is greater in FKK with right FKK girls.
FKK out perform normal girl relationship? I begin to think so. What do you guys think about this dilemma I am having right now?When it comes to relationships with women, I practice the five F's: find them, feel them, finger them, fuck them, forget them! Working girls are perfect for this philosophical approach. No dilemma here!
When it comes to relationships with women, I practice the five F's: find them, feel them, finger them, fuck them, forget them! Working girls are perfect for this philosophical approach. No dilemma here!I like intimate sex with normal girls, but man. So much efforts, nerve, time and MONEY have to be invested in normal girls and actually alot of normal girls are much more mentally crazy and unstable than FKK girls)) This is true.
I mean I actually met so many sweetest beings in FKK, some of the FKK girls are actually so nice and I so much treasure the moments I had with them, some actually became kind of friend on facebook (I know their real name et.).
So all this make me say, why waste time, nerve, stress, money chasing and dealing with dating normal girls. The sex is not even that good with normal girls anyways and they cause so much problems and we cannot change each night. Where as FKK, you are like a kid in sex heaven!
I am absolutely becoming convinced that FKK is actually better than dating normal girls.
Some may say, so sad. But if I ask them why sad? They won't be able to tell me why except like connection or something. , I mean I only feel the connection at the beginning and after normal girls go nuts)) so why bother and stick to FKK girls, so nice and sexual and you can change each time, some are better than others.
Plus, don't you guys have some experience in FKK where you meet so horny, dirty, sweet girls who give you most crazy sex? I have some sex in FKK that even outperform most hardcore porn movies, even kissing, I had Hungarian girl practically eating half of my face and washing my teeth and gum with her tongue. I mean. Nothing topped that DFK than that Hungarian FKK girl. So based on my sexual experience in FKK, I think sticking to FKK girls are much better choice in life for some men like us who want to have best sex life!
So much sexual memories.
Nille Copenhagen
11-20-14, 09:34
I like intimate sex with normal girls, but man. So much efforts, nerve, time and MONEY have to be invested in normal girls and actually alot of normal girls are much more mentally crazy and unstable than FKK girls)) This is true..You can have both.
When it comes to relationships with women, I practice the five F's: find them, feel them, finger them, fuck them, forget them! Working girls are perfect for this philosophical approach. No dilemma here!Hello The Cane.
Except. You keep reminding us of the girls that you fucked. How can you, or I, "forget" a mind-blowing experience? I am sure you will agree with me here.
Mr. Ho. Try dry fingering a nice asshole during 69 or during doggie sex. When the girl is thrusting back, stick in the thumb. Most girls do not mind in the throes of passion.
FiddyCent.
Hello The Cane.
Except. You keep reminding us of the girls that you fucked. How can you, or I, "forget" a mind-blowing experience? I am sure you will agree with me here.I haven't violated anything, and you know what I mean. Holding on to good memories versus trying to have an on-going "relationship" are two different things. As I have advised before, seeking to have a "relationship" with a working girl is both ill-advised and pure folly. If you want a relationship, then pursue "normal" girls only. No making a housewife out of a hooker!
I haven't violated anything, and you know what I mean. Holding on to good memories versus trying to have an on-going "relationship" are two different things. As I have advised before, seeking to have a "relationship" with a working girl is both ill-advised and pure folly. If you want a relationship, then pursue "normal" girls only. No making a housewife out of a hooker!Hello The Cane.
I think most guys here know not to have a relationship with these girls, beyond having a nice repeat fuck partner. What if a girl quits the profession and you happen to stumble upon her somewhere else?? You'll never know if she is normal, but I see your point.
FiddyCent.
This is interesting topic.
On going relationship began to be something I find hard to continue after I found FKK because sex simply became something that is not mind blowing.
You know in FKK you can get crazy sex with real hot young girls for just 60 euro if lucky or 120 euro to 150 euro you increase the propability of good sex at FKK, so having sex with normal girls in relationships are not WOW anymore for me plus it COST so much of nerve, time, money etc to have sex with normal girls (wining dining etc).
Which one is better is a point of view, but FKK changed alot of thing inside me that was installed in me as society's norm.
I can say I am sexual memories collector at FKK or any other sex industry venues around the globe. With relationships I have some bitter sweet memories, but with FKK etc. I got some intense sweet sexual memories, so which one is better? At least for me I begin to think I should concentrate mostly on FKK and if I find normal girls I do not make effort as I got FKK, I mean when you don't chase girls they chase you right because they don't know why I am not chasing after her (well because I got FKK)))) It may perceived as sick point of view by society, but I think what I am writting is quite logical and rational.
As for actually make FKK girls quit FKK and go out with them, hell no! Then they become former FKK normal girls then I think they can be real difficult girls to handle, I mean they are only sweetest and nicest as you are in FKK and you pay and somehow they feel the bond with you, this is my understanding, you get personal you get the freaky side as these are girls with some problem right? It is just that they hide it in FKK while they work, but some girls are really correct and nice girls I actually like them on personal level, but I won't let myself fall for them outside FKK.
Doggy and putting finger in ass, I do it all the time but I wet my finger first or put my tongue in her ass))) Crazy thing I do at FKK huh? Some girls charge you 50 euro for finger in ass, when I pay I finger fuck her ass properly for my sweet memories!
FKK girls VS normal girls.
For me FKK girls outperform as they don't cause me any problem and just leave me with good sex memories or even some peronal memories as they (some) are actually nice. It is nice to see how they are doing in facebook now and then as I am connecte to their perosnal page to some of them.
Normal girls. Hmmmm they cost too much nerve, money, time etc. Cause problems often, also they can leave you with bad memories annnnd they don't really fuck or blow you as good as FKK girls.
So based on rationality, FKK girls outperform.
Maybe doing both with more focus on FKK girls are better, them normal girls chase you.
It is funny huh? When you pay attention to normal girls, they treat you bad, when you don't pay attention and ignore them they chase you) I mean I don't get this. They are more strange than girls in FKK)).
Hi Guys,
I am in a dilemma rather a confusion, Long I have had this fetish to fuck as many European girls as possible and so in this quest I landed in the GERMAN FKK's now that I have found it out. To almost all my fantasies the German FKK is well equipped and apt. But I have been thinking long about going to Prague and Budapest to conquer some pussies there aswell. My question to you guys is, if someone can explain me this. Now that Most variety of European Girls (Or even if it is only Romanian and Bulgarian) Girls is so much in abundance available in the German FKK's why the hell would one go to places like Prague and Budapest when it is all available in the German FKK's I mean the whole existence of Escort Girls in Prague and Budapest has started looking to me Futile, Of no value, when it is all available at reasonably cheaper price in the German FKK's so can anyone please explain me why would one go to Places Like Prague and Budapest or even a place like Ukraine when it is all available in the German FKK's?
Does anyone have a different perspective on this?
Does anyone have a different perspective on this?Spain is the other mongering destination in Europe that I enjoy greatly. I believe it is vastly underrated. Our mongering reporter Ibn Buttita just did a series of reports capturing the details of his recent adventures in Catalonia. Check them out in the Spain threads. He finally decided to visit Espana. Maybe one day you will too! As for some of those other destinations you mentioned, I would advise you to pass. Don't look to the east of Germany. Go west young man, go west!
Some may say, so sad. But if I ask them why sad? They won't be able to tell me why except like connection or something. , I mean I only feel the connection at the beginning and after normal girls go nuts)) so why bother and stick to FKK girls, so nice and sexual and you can change each time, some are better than others.You're on the money. They may say "so sad", but if you really listen to them they aren't telling you shit! Not making any "connections" with a woman in a "normal" way? Well "normal" can be pretty fucked up! In this country anyway, half of them are getting divorced, and then trying it again. And maybe a third time! And I figure that at least half of the ones who stay together really aren't happy. So, it seems to me that the majority of those who go the "normal" route aren't being all that successful in establishing that lifelong "connection" with the opposite sex. But then you know the first thing they will say right? But you're "paying" for it. As if they aren't! You already know from your own circumstances how much money you're laying out to court "normal" girls. And do you think that it stops after marriage? No, it only gets worse! And even worse than that when the divorce comes! I know of a guy now thinking about going to drive a cab after his divorce just to make some extra income to pay his bills. That's pathetic man. Just plain pathetic! Mr. Ho, you do what makes you happy and don't get caught up in bullshit societal constraints that we were told were desirable endeavors and outcomes when we were young, but when we grow up we realize it's mostly a crock of shit! Unfortunately, many of us realize it only too late. Don't fall victim to debt bondage all in the name of "normal" relationships and marriage. Hell, prostitution is the oldest profession, so it seems to me that messing with tutes is indeed very normal! Not seeing it the way the others do.
TC the Contrarian.
Pretty much agree with TC's last post.
However I don't always choose to forget them (last of the five Fs). I have stayed in touch with a very few working girls after they finished working and find that, as has been said, they are no different to "normal" people. However, the fact that the "friendship" arose in FKK means that I am one of the few people they are able to be honest with about how they feel about themselves and their lives since the relationship started in such an upfront nothing hidden way, so in some ways it remains always a little different. That's why it's worth for me sometimes staying in touch.
Finnish Fucker
11-21-14, 18:08
FKK girls VS normal girls.
Well the only difference is that hookers fuck for money while the "normal" girls fuck those guys who they like. I don't want to sound rude here but just saying that comparing hookers to regular girls is futile. For sure both require money from us in some way but one should never compare a freebie with a hooker. For me the feeling of pulling a nice girl from a nightclub, take her to your home and then have fun and fuck is not comparable of fucking a working girl in a club. They fuck you because they get money from it, because they have to do so. Well you might ask why do I visit the clubs in Germany then. The answer is simple, because I can't get the young pussy for free anymore in Finland. I try my best but it is getting harder and harder these days.
-ff.
Nille Copenhagen
11-21-14, 19:16
, because I can't get the young pussy for free anymore in Finland. I try my best but it is getting harder and harder these days.
FFBut there are free mature women hehe, they can be really horny in bed. LOL.
FKK girls VS normal girls.
One, I agree with Nille. You can still pursue normal girls, and see FKK girls. Instead of doing 2 trips a year to Germany, just do one. A lot of FKKers are married, so it is quite possible to still partake in the hobby.
Two, I agree with Finnish Fucker as well. The feeling is much better, and there is much more of an adrenaline high when you bang a girl in real life for the first time. Also unless you are big spender or frequent customer, FKK girls won't generally remember you, because you are nobody special to them. Normal girls, usually don't have this problem. I've seen girls that I had one night stands with years later. And we still remember each other--although it is awkward, LOL.
Three, I see FKK girls as providing a service. Same as a masseuse, maid, or cook. So you can hire someone to do these things for you, or you can ask your significant other to do these things for you but chances are your significant other can't massage, cook, or clean as well as someone who does it professionally.
Four, these girls don't really care about you. If you are dying in hospital bed or you lose your job and you need some financial help, you think these girls will come to your rescue? There are some things that a girl will only do for a man she loves. Some of these FKK girls are turning tricks so they can hand that money over to their pimp, boyfriend or "fish". They do this out of love or what they think is love.
Five, girls aren't always expensive. This could be cultural, but I've met many pretty girls who insist for paying for their own things. If I buy them something, they will generally buy me something back in return, so I am not losing money on the "deal". At the beginning of a relationship, I will never spend a lot of money on a girl, simply because she hasn't proved to me that she deserves it. If I am going to spend huge sums of money, I prefer it to be on people I've known for decades--not months.
Finnish Fucker
11-22-14, 00:57
Two, I agree with Finnish Fucker as well. The feeling is much better, and there is much more of an adrenaline high when you bang a girl in real life for the first time. Also unless you are big spender or frequent customer, FKK girls won't generally remember you, because you are nobody special to them. Good post McAdonis!
True as you said, we are nothing special to the girls at the end. Just another bricks in the wall.
http://youtu.be/GmsJqzEEfco
-ff.
FF and McAdonis make some good points, but I do take issue with a couple of things that were said.
First, the girls in the clubs absolutely do not have to fuck you! They can fuck (or refuse to fuck) anybody that they want to. Over the decades it has indeed been rare for me to be refused, but it has happened. I can think of at least 4 times, and one of those was at that "infamous" German FKK known as Golden Time (I need say no more regarding that club's reputation). But the bottom line is that if a girl at an FKK doesn't want to go with you, then she doesn't have to. She still has a choice. Don't forget that.
The second thing is the notion that freebie sex with a "normal" girl is supposedly more of an adrenaline high than sex with a working girl. Well, maybe for you two guys, but not for guys like Mr. Ho and me. We get more of a high from messing with the tutes! In fact, this is a part of what causes Mr. Ho's "dilemma", and he says so quite plainly. For him, sex with normal girls is sub par when compared with sex with the tutes. Same for me. The normal girls can no longer satisfy me with their plain "vanilla" sex. They think they're doing something in bed, but Ho and I know they're really not doing shit.
Now, I'm not saying the following is necessarily true regarding FF and McAdonis, but I think some guys will be forever stuck on "freebie" sex being better just because that's what society has implanted inside of their brains from birth. That's the way it's "supposed" to be. You're not supposed to pay for it! How could you "cheapen" sex that way! Well, for guys like Ho, and me, and millions of others that's just not true. The act of paying changes nothing and does absolutely nothing to lower the power of the pleasure derived therefrom. If anything, for us it only increases the satisfaction as it brings more upfront honesty and transparency to doing the deed without all of the "dating games" subterfuge that men and women engage in. This is how I see it. And I am unanimous in this LOL!
You're on the money. They may say "so sad", but if you really listen to them they aren't telling you shit! Not making any "connections" with a woman in a "normal" way? Well "normal" can be pretty fucked up! In this country anyway, half of them are getting divorced, and then trying it again. And maybe a third time! And I figure that at least half of the ones who stay together really aren't happy. So, it seems to me that the majority of those who go the "normal" route aren't being all that successful in establishing that lifelong "connection" with the opposite sex. But then you know the first thing they will say right? But you're "paying" for it. As if they aren't! You already know from your own circumstances how much money you're laying out to court "normal" girls. And do you think that it stops after marriage? No, it only gets worse! And even worse than that when the divorce comes! I know of a guy now thinking about going to drive a cab after his divorce just to make some extra income to pay his bills. That's pathetic man. Just plain pathetic! Mr. Ho, you do what makes you happy and don't get caught up in bullshit societal constraints that we were told were desirable endeavors and outcomes when we were young, but when we grow up we realize it's mostly a crock of shit! Unfortunately, many of us realize it only too late. Don't fall victim to debt bondage all in the name of "normal" relationships and marriage. Hell, prostitution is the oldest profession, so it seems to me that messing with tutes is indeed very normal! Not seeing it the way the others do.
TC the Contrarian.Very well written and wise words Mr Cane.
You actually pay much more money for normal relationship. Pay much more attention, nerve and it can even destroy men's life! I know some men whose life is destroy after certain relationship with normal woman.
On the other hand, I played right way in German FKK and I really have so much more connection to these girls I became friend with, but I only meet them at FKK even though they offered me to meet them outside of FKK.
Normal relationship marriage is the system created by religion and government to keep the system going and produce tax paying machines for next generation of system. I am sure having a child is great gift, but man this normal girl relationship is really not worth it unless you fuck and leave or pay no attention and let those normal girls chase you. I mean not being heartless but normal girls always go fucked up after few month of relationship and also at very beginning of relationship.
FKK is the place where I throw myself in for the memories of my sexual life I am glad I have been mongering around world since 18 and now I'm 34, I will do this forever!
Fellow mongers! Keep on mongering playas.
Spain is the other mongering destination in Europe that I enjoy greatly. I believe it is vastly underrated. Our mongering reporter Ibn Buttita just did a series of reports capturing the details of his recent adventures in Catalonia. Check them out in the Spain threads. He finally decided to visit Espana. Maybe one day you will too! As for some of those other destinations you mentioned, I would advise you to pass. Don't look to the east of Germany. Go west young man, go west!Spain is good as German FKK? What are the nationalities though? Spanish, Brazilian I presume? No Hungarians, Austrians, Germans right?
I prefer having intense sessions at FKK till I cannot fuck anymore than doing one normal girl.
Only good thing about normal girl is that I can fuck her with no condom, but if accident pregnant occur. Then that is million dollar night right there with so much responsibility.
In FKK, you have pools of pussies of all skin color, different body, tits etc. You can even take two at the same time and you can fuck them like woodman style.
Imagine fucking your girlfriend woodman style in the ass, you can do it sometimes but not all the time unless you have nympho as you girlfriend.
In FKK, you are free to do what you want it is just that you have to wear condom for penetration.
I see more pros over cons doing beautiful young tutes than doing normal girls.
I had girlfriends from different part of world and some were real beauty, but man really it takes so much effort especially at the beginning of getting into relationship and by the time I get into relationship I am so tired already then they eventually freak out tire you mentally.
FKK is wild wild west where you pay and with bit of charm and humor you can do what you want.
I have hard time getting satisfied with normal girls for long time, first few time it is great intimate sex then after few times. I begin to compare sex with normal girls to insane sex session I had with FKK girls. FKK is like pringle ad for me, once I pop, I cannot stop.
Spain is the other mongering destination in Europe that I enjoy greatly. I believe it is vastly underrated. Our mongering reporter Ibn Buttita just did a series of reports capturing the details of his recent adventures in Catalonia. Check them out in the Spain threads. He finally decided to visit Espana. Maybe one day you will too! As for some of those other destinations you mentioned, I would advise you to pass. Don't look to the east of Germany. Go west young man, go west!Well I have seen a lot of guys just drool over Spanish Girls. But does it not get expensive there than going to Eastern Europe the whole idea of going to eastern Europe is great beauty at cheap price. Spain is West Europe I guess would be expensive there. Also I have also always wanted to visit Prague as a Normal Tourist I have been told is a beautiful city with typical European architecture and feel to it. It is very European. So anyways I have on my mind to once visit Czech Republic so I was think why not instead make it a Sex Tourism thing also!
Finnish Fucker
11-22-14, 09:28
The second thing is the notion that freebie sex with a "normal" girl is supposedly more of an adrenaline high than sex with a working girl. Well, maybe for you two guys, but not for guys like Mr. Ho and me. We get more of a high from messing with the tutes! In fact, this is a part of what causes Mr. Ho's "dilemma", and he says so quite plainly. For him, sex with normal girls is sub par when compared with sex with the tutes. Same for me. The normal girls can no longer satisfy me with their plain "vanilla" sex. They think they're doing something in bed, but Ho and I know they're really not doing shit.
Technically most of the working girls fuck better than the freebies, that is true and I agree. They have learned to fuck and please a man through their career as a hooker.
Anyway for me the chase is sometimes better than the catch. I can never get the same quality of young honeys from a normal club or bar than in german FKK's but the point is the 'fishing' process. Last summer I got lucky in Helsinki and met a 24 year old girl on the beach. Quite ok body, silicon tits, pretty blue eyes and cute face. Physically not close to the best looking ones I have fucked in FKK's over the years. But man she liked cock and enjoyed to suck and fuck. It was nice for a change that after spraying my load onto her ample silicon breasts there was no need to walk into the locker and dig out some 50 bills and pay :cool:
I know a hooker can refuse a client if she does not like him. Has happened to me as well. But honestly I have seen nice young girls going into the rooms with such a freaks of nature who make Fat Bastard in Austin Powers look handsome. No way can any working girls fancy fucking these pigs.
At the end we all visit the clubs and fuck the hookers. Some more, some less, some every day, LOL. I just would not compare the hookers with normal girls, no need to. Different species.
Spain is good as German FKK? What are the nationalities though? Spanish, Brazilian I presume? No Hungarians, Austrians, Germans right?You will find a lot of Romanians in Spain just like in Germany. But also lots of girls from the Americas, particularly South America. One of my favorite memories is of a blonde, Cuban girl who looked like Fergie from the Black-eyed Peas, but even hotter in my opinion. I enjoyed her anus. I didn't say that Spain was as good as Germany on the sex tip. I said it was my second favorite mongering destination in Europe. It's number two because anal is far more prevalent in Germany LOL! When I've gotten anal in Spain, it has tended to be from the Brazilian girls working over there. The Cuban girl was an exotic treat for a Yankee like me. I'm glad she allowed backdoor entry.
I have hard time getting satisfied with normal girls for long time, first few time it is great intimate sex then after few times. I begin to compare sex with normal girls to insane sex session I had with FKK girls. FKK is like pringle ad for me, once I pop, I cannot stop.Ho,
You're killing me man! You're killing me over here hahaha! Ho is an international "playa" since 18 LOL! I didn't have two nickels to rub together at 18! But I keep telling you man. If you want access to insane anal sex with girls of all skin colors, you got to go to Brazil! Talking about fucking pretty girls in the butt Woodman-style! Whew! You'll get over there and lose your mind hommes!
Well I have seen a lot of guys just drool over Spanish Girls. But does it not get expensive there than going to Eastern Europe the whole idea of going to eastern Europe is great beauty at cheap price. Spain is West Europe I guess would be expensive there. Also I have also always wanted to visit Prague as a Normal Tourist I have been told is a beautiful city with typical European architecture and feel to it. It is very European. So anyways I have on my mind to once visit Czech Republic so I was think why not instead make it a Sex Tourism thing also!In general, Prague is indeed an excellent tourist town for "normal" tourist stuff. But watch out for the cabbies though! They will try to rip you off by charging double, and will try to take you to clubs where they will get kickbacks. This is the one thing that I really didn't like about Prague. The taxi drivers were some of the worst in the world I've had to deal with anywhere. I remember that when I was there I wanted to visit the famous club K-5 Relax. I was confused when we supposedly arrived because although the address on the building was literally K-5, it didn't look like the club I had seen on the internet. Went in and discovered that it was a different club! I went back out to the still waiting taxi (was waiting to see if I would stay so he could get his fee), and I made his ass take me where I wanted to go at no additional charge!
On the mongering front, most will tell you that Prague has seen better days. Some will say different, but most guys who are seasoned mongers who understand prices and quality on a worldwide basis will tell you that Prague and Budapest are down (I have not been to Budapest). Now, there are lots of options to choose from in Prague, but quality is not as good as in Germany and Spain on the whole, and the prices are more expensive at the top clubs, not less! You're making some assumption that sex in Spain is more expensive than some country in eastern Europe just because Spain is in the west! That's not necessarily true. Prague and the Czech Republic is an extremely well-developed nation that has the kind of cost for goods and services that go along with that standing. From a geographical standpoint, it isn't even in eastern Europe but more smack dab in the middle.
You need to RTFF more on this and do your research. Listen to the seasoned, well-traveled, experienced mongers, and you will find that Prague just isn't what it used to be when it comes to mongering. And the best quality available there is expensive! I've found much better Czech talent at better prices in Berlin and Frankfurt! Don't believe me? Then go ahead. Take a trip to Prague and see for yourself. I did, and I had a great time overall just because it is such an interesting place to visit. But from a mongering standpoint, I've enjoyed better. Much, much better at better prices. Have fun. And tell us about it!
Anyway for me the chase is sometimes better than the catch. I can never get the same quality of young honeys from a normal club or bar than in german FKK's but the point is the 'fishing' process.Now this I can understand. Some guys really enjoy the hunt. The chase! And no matter how you cut it, going after girls in an FKK is not a true chase in any sense of the word. It's all fabricated in a "pre-packaged" environment. Mongers like me who value efficiency love that LOL! At the same time, I don't necessarily need "spear fishing in a barrel" mongering like at the Hotel del Rey in Costa Rica either LOL!
Prague and the Czech Republic is an extremely well-developed nation that has the kind of cost for goods and services that go along with that standing. And that's why you don't find that many Czech girls any more in Germany, certainly not in FKKs. And what few Czech girls you will find are unlikely to be the best service providers. They no longer have to sell themselves cheap as they have a reasonably prosperous home country to fall back on. You only need to see how Czeck girls now look down on Rumanians! As to Spain, it is now an economic wasteland. You find quite a few Spanish girls working in Germany now. I mean real Spaniards, not Latinas who got Spanish passport (you can detect real Spaniards at the way they pronounce "s" in spanish. Spaniards pronounce "s" like they had a hair on the tongue). Regarding Prague and Budapest, some member of this forum inquired of late what was the quickest way to get from Budapest (where he was on duty travel) to Frankfurt (where he hoped to get good sex at a reasonable rate). That says it all.
I confirm many Rumanian girls have worked in Spain. I met quite a few Rumanians in FKKs who were fluent in Spanish, so much so that I first mistook them for Latinas.
But then you know the first thing they will say right? But you're "paying" for it. As if they aren't! You already know from your own circumstances how much money you're laying out to court "normal" girls. And do you think that it stops after marriage? No, it only gets worse! And even worse than that when the divorce comes!I've found out men who are most adamant about never paying for sex are nearly always personal financial slaves to some woman, usually a wife or an ex-wife. These men have zero disposable income (all their money gets confiscated by the woman). These men couldn't pay for sex even if they'd wanted to.
I'v found out the men who are most adamant about never paying for sex are nearly always personal financial slaves to some woman, usually a wife or an ex-wife.They're secretly paying for tutes while admonishing you for doing it with no qualms about it. You can't win with these guys. That's why I only discuss the pleasures of mongering with other mongers. Do you really think Spitzer was a one off? No way. The dangerous thing about him though was that he had the force of the law behind his hypocritical rhetoric.
In general, Prague is indeed an excellent tourist town for "normal" tourist stuff. But watch out for the cabbies though! They will try to rip you off by charging double, and will try to take you to clubs where they will get kickbacks. This is the one thing that I really didn't like about Prague. The taxi drivers were some of the worst in the world I've had to deal with anywhere. I remember that when I was there I wanted to visit the famous club K-5 Relax. I was confused when we supposedly arrived because although the address on the building was literally K-5, it didn't look like the club I had seen on the internet. Went in and discovered that it was a different club! I went back out to the still waiting taxi (was waiting to see if I would stay so he could get his fee), and I made his ass take me where I wanted to go at no additional charge!
On the mongering front, most will tell you that Prague has seen better days. Some will say different, but most guys who are seasoned mongers who understand prices and quality on a worldwide basis will tell you that Prague and Budapest are down (I have not been to Budapest). Now, there are lots of options to choose from in Prague, but quality is not as good as in Germany and Spain on the whole, and the prices are more expensive at the top clubs, not less! You're making some assumption that sex in Spain is more expensive than some country in eastern Europe just because Spain is in the west! That's not necessarily true. Prague and the Czech Republic is an extremely well-developed nation that has the kind of cost for goods and services that go along with that standing. From a geographical standpoint, it isn't even in eastern Europe but more smack dab in the middle.
You need to RTFF more on this and do your research. Listen to the seasoned, well-traveled, experienced mongers, and you will find that Prague just isn't what it used to be when it comes to mongering. And the best quality available there is expensive! I've found much better Czech talent at better prices in Berlin and Frankfurt! Don't believe me? Then go ahead. Take a trip to Prague and see for yourself. I did, and I had a great time overall just because it is such an interesting place to visit. But from a mongering standpoint, I've enjoyed better. Much, much better at better prices. Have fun. And tell us about it!The Cane is partly correct in saying that the Golden Age of mongering in Prague is over. Prices used to be very cheap compared to Western Europe, but you really do need to do a lot of homework in order to find the gems that are still present in Prague. A good place to start is these two links listed below. Prague is a very beautiful city and should be on everybody's bucket list for places to visit. If you want to look for sex on the side, it can still be possible. You will not find the convenience of a FKK setup, but if you like a good "privat" apartment setup, Privat Sexy Prague is a good place to start. The apartment is located close to the center of town and is well furnished. Moreover, the girls there are generally nice looking and provide good service. Popular girls are usually booked up quickly, so you must call ahead. I also like to visit one particular gal when I am in Prague. Check out Carmen Firestorm. She only does hotel visits, and will provide you a nice GFE. Besides her looks and great ass, she also has a hidden talent. I won't give it away. You just have to call her up and find out for yourself. Better chance if you book her for a full 3 hour session. Her fees work out to about 100 Euros per hour. Privat girls can be found for as little as 60 Euros per hour, for the same level of service as a FKK. You do have to pay for extras and not every girl offers ANAL, to the chagrin of The Cane.
http://zlobiveholky.cz/
http://www.masher.cz/
http://carmenfirestorm.moonfruit.com/
This is directed to Jooeey who said:
"Well I have seen a lot of guys just drool over Spanish Girls. But does it not get expensive there than going to Eastern Europe the whole idea of going to eastern Europe is great beauty at cheap price. Spain is West Europe I guess would be expensive there. Also I have also always wanted to visit Prague as a Normal Tourist I have been told is a beautiful city with typical European architecture and feel to it. It is very European. So anyways I have on my mind to once visit Czech Republic so I was think why not instead make it a Sex Tourism thing also!
I say go as a tourist and check out all the history and architecture. Go for the beer. The Czechs take great pride in their brew. Lastly, check out their women. They are some of the most beautiful in the world, IMHO. Slowly, the charm is fading from Prague, as the city introduces more western franchises. The city has become so touristy that the local girls do not even party in the center of town. Good luck!
FiddyCent.
The Cane is partly correct in saying that the Golden Age of mongering in Prague is over. Prices used to be very cheap compared to Western Europe, but you really do need to do a lot of homework in order to find the gems that are still present in Prague. Moreover, the girls there are generally nice looking and provide good service.No my friend, I'm 100% correct that the "golden age" of mongering in Prague is over. There is mongering to be had for sure, but the action is better in Germany and even Spain in terms of service. Hell I liked fucking in Dubai better! Nor did I find the overall selection of girls in Prague to be on par with what you will find in an FKK in terms of looks. I'm not saying they were all ugly. I'm just saying that I find the optics to be better at the FKKs overall. I saw some girls working in Prague who wouldn't make it past the front door of an FKK! Not unless they were the cleaning ladies. I mean I was shocked! Like missing teeth and shit! I attended the big clubs, privats, Showpark I & II. Everywhere man. Had an escort in my room. Everything except a streetwalker and a "normal" girl LOL!
Oh, and besides the lack of anal you forgot to mention all of the CBJs in Prague versus the BBBJs that are pretty standard in Germany. I knew you would chime in here because you like the place, but I'm here to keep it real and make sure the guys understand the truth because I was there and experienced what the place has to offer. And by the way, I did successfully procure some anal in Prague. If anybody is going to, it will be a cornhole loving monger like me! Fucked a blonde Czech girl in the ass in my hotel room that somebody on ISG set me up with. Butt fucked an average looking brunette Czech girl in one of the privats. She loved it and wanted to start kissing while I buggered her missionary-style. Then fucked a pretty Russian blonde deep in her Slav girl "popeka" in one of the big clubs. She is memorable because she kept saying, "Fuck my Russian ass!" LOLOLOL!
But like I said. For you guys out there who want to hang onto the belief that Prague just must be a top mongering destination, well nobody can tell you anything. So, just go see for yourself. Like Fiddy said, it should be on your bucket list of places to visit if you like to travel. But, if you're a seasoned international monger, you probably will come away just a little bit disappointed when it comes to the PforP scene in Prague. It's not what it used to be! But go see for yourself.
Ho,
You're killing me man! You're killing me over here hahaha! Ho is an international "playa" since 18 LOL! I didn't have two nickels to rub together at 18! But I keep telling you man. If you want access to insane anal sex with girls of all skin colors, you got to go to Brazil! Talking about fucking pretty girls in the butt Woodman-style! Whew! You'll get over there and lose your mind hommes!Yeah I got hooked to hooker at age of 18, it was in Geneva, I ordered escort for 1000 CHF (it is like 1000 USD) it was beautiful Portuguese girl. Wow she was hot and she fucked my brain out! Ever since then I began to travel to hunt for best hookers!
Man, really call me sad man! But prostitutes are like central gravity of my life since then.
I am Mike Tyson would say professional prostitute hunter, but I only hunt for the best looking tutes.
Guys! Chase? I hate chasing man, when girl make me chase I stop the process, I much prefer to chase after beautiful prostitutes around globe (no Germany and Japan), because you chase to find them and when you do then you get the punani for sure) after I negotiate for some fetish I want to do concerning anals.
I chase working girls, but I do not really chase normal girls, fuck that, beautiful tutes are way better!
(you can detect real Spaniards at the way they pronounce "s" in spanish. Spaniards pronounce "s" like they had a hair on the tongue).That's not always true. People from Andalusia don't pronounce in that way but some South Americans, from parts of Colombia for example, do.
No my friend, I'm 100% correct that the "golden age" of mongering in Prague is over. There is mongering to be had for sure, but the action is better in Germany and even Spain in terms of service. Hell I liked fucking in Dubai better! Nor did I find the overall selection of girls in Prague to be on par with what you will find in an FKK in terms of looks. I'm not saying they were all ugly. I'm just saying that I find the optics to be better at the FKKs overall. I saw some girls working in Prague who wouldn't make it past the front door of an FKK! Not unless they were the cleaning ladies. I mean I was shocked! Like missing teeth and shit! I attended the big clubs, privats, Showpark I & II. Everywhere man. Had an escort in my room. Everything except a streetwalker and a "normal" girl LOL!
Oh, and besides the lack of anal you forgot to mention all of the CBJs in Prague versus the BBBJs that are pretty standard in Germany. I knew you would chime in here because you like the place, but I'm here to keep it real and make sure the guys understand the truth because I was there and experienced what the place has to offer. And by the way, I did successfully procure some anal in Prague. If anybody is going to, it will be a cornhole loving monger like me! Fucked a blonde Czech girl in the ass in my hotel room that somebody on ISG set me up with. Butt fucked an average looking brunette Czech girl in one of the privats. She loved it and wanted to start kissing while I buggered her missionary-style. Then fucked a pretty Russian blonde deep in her Slav girl "popeka" in one of the big clubs. She is memorable because she kept saying, "Fuck my Russian ass!" LOLOLOL!
But like I said. For you guys out there who want to hang onto the belief that Prague just must be a top mongering destination, well nobody can tell you anything. So, just go see for yourself. Like Fiddy said, it should be on your bucket list of places to visit if you like to travel. But, if you're a seasoned international monger, you probably will come away just a little bit disappointed when it comes to the PforP scene in Prague. It's not what it used to be! But go see for yourself.Hello The Cane.
Your statement about the "Golden Age" being over may be true, but your statement about not being able to find a nice girl in Prague is completely false. I did say in my previous post that Prague does not have the convenience of a FKK setup, except for the one club that I did not like. All the best action and the best prices can be found in Privats = private apartments. If you check out the links on my previous post, you will see that prices for all services are listed. Most girls operate on a base rate of 1500 Kc per hour, or about 60 Euros. Add kissing +500 Kc and BBBJ to CIM is only +500 Kc more. That would put it at around 2500 Kc = 100 Euros. If you were in a FKK, you would be paying 100 Euros per hour + 50 Euros more for CIM. Anal can be had for another 1000 Kc = 40 Euros more. That is all documented. For me, I do not actively seek out girls who do anal. Of course it is a plus, but if a girl does offer it I usually say yes. What is important to me is the GFE. Also, where else can you take a girl and step into a bathtub together after sex? Not at a FKK. My advice to Jooeey was to do some research and follow the links I posted. If you are willing to put in the time, you will find some gems. That I guarantee. Don't get me wrong. I like the FKK experience very much, but Prague does offer something very different. I also go back because of my faves. The problem is the scene changes very fast and the good girls get booked up. For example, the one girl that does CIM and swallowing was snapped up for a whole night on escort. What can you do? I just picked another girl who did CIM, but spat. Oh well, them the breaks.
FiddyCent.
Hello The Cane.
Your statement about the "Golden Age" being over may be true, but your statement about not being able to find a nice girl in Prague is completely false.
FiddyCent.I didn't say that. I made no such statement. Now if I felt that way believe me I would come right out and say it. And you make it seem that just by offering to pay more that anal and BBBJ / CIM are on the menu in Prague. My experience was that the majority of the girls in Prague would do neither regardless of what you offered to pay. It's all relative, and my point is that in my opinion there are other places to monger that are much better than Prague, and if an FKK lover goes to Prague looking for a good time, they most probably will come away disappointed.
Oh, and Brazil is a place where you can get a girl to move from the bed and step into a hot tub. Done that a few times myself. And you can fuck 70% of the Brazilian tutes in the butt LOL! Here are some shots of one of my best Brazilian memories who I call "little Debbie". After spending time in the hot tub with her, I performed a deep anal exploratory in her anus missionary-style while we lustfully DFK'd. She was very accommodating, so I took my time traveling along her Hershey highway until I finally nutted. Going to get in the hot tub! Yeah! Going to make me sweat! Yeah! LOLOLOL!
I didn't say that. I made no such statement. Now if I felt that way believe me I would come right out and say it. And you make it seem that just by offering to pay more that anal and BBBJ / CIM are on the menu in Prague. My experience was that the majority of the girls in Prague would do neither regardless of what you offered to pay. It's all relative, and my point is that in my opinion there are other places to monger that are much better than Prague, and if an FKK lover goes to Prague looking for a good time, they most probably will come away disappointed.
Oh, and Brazil is a place where you can get a girl to move from the bed and step into a hot tub. Done that a few times myself. And you can fuck 70% of the Brazilian tutes in the butt LOL! Here are some shots of one of my best Brazilian memories who I call "little Debbie". After spending time in the hot tub with her, I performed a deep anal exploratory in her anus missionary-style while we lustfully DFK'd. She was very accommodating, so I took my time traveling along her Hershey highway until I finally nutted. Going to get in the hot tub! Yeah! Going to make me sweat! Yeah! LOLOLOL!Hello The Cane.
I am glad you have the knowledge and experience of Brazil under your belt. There is no question about the quality of girls in the termas. One day I will pay a visit and experience this myself. Saving the best for last, I guess. The only point I am trying to make for those fellow brothers who want to visit Prague is to do some homework to avoid disappointment. BBBJ / CIM are offered by most girls. You just need to review it on the website. First check out the forum pages, then the reviews, and cross reference with website of the club to see if the girl is available. I am not trying to compare FKKs to private apartment girls. They are different setups. There is also no comparison of Prague clubs to FKKs, but I will reiterate that the scene changes very fast. You can find girls in privats that will service you as well or better than FKK girls for a lower price. You just need to do some digging. It is still good now. Just think how much better it was a decade ago.
FiddyCent.
No my friend, I'm 100% correct that the "golden age" of mongering in Prague is over. There is mongering to be had for sure, but the action is better in Germany and even Spain in terms of service. Hell I liked fucking in Dubai better! Nor did I find the overall selection of girls in Prague to be on par with what you will find in an FKK in terms of looks. I'm not saying they were all ugly. I'm just saying that I find the optics to be better at the FKKs overall. I saw some girls working in Prague who wouldn't make it past the front door of an FKK! Not unless they were the cleaning ladies. I mean I was shocked! Like missing teeth and shit! I attended the big clubs, privats, Showpark I & II. Everywhere man. Had an escort in my room. Everything except a streetwalker and a "normal" girl LOL!
Oh, and besides the lack of anal you forgot to mention all of the CBJs in Prague versus the BBBJs that are pretty standard in Germany. I knew you would chime in here because you like the place, but I'm here to keep it real and make sure the guys understand the truth because I was there and experienced what the place has to offer. And by the way, I did successfully procure some anal in Prague..How about Babilon club in Austria? There are 3 branches all over Austria no?
I have been told pricey but get best model looking girl?
How about Babilon club in Austria? There are 3 branches all over Austria no?
I have been told pricey but get best model looking girl?I don't have personal experience with Austria, but I have RTFF extensively on it, and the general conclusion from those in the know seems to be that Germany is still the better choice overall. For now, if you stick with Germany you can be pretty confident that you're getting access to the best action in Europe. Switzerland would also be good and probably on par with Germany if it wasn't so damned expensive!
As I have said, I like Spain but it is a cut below Germany when it comes to the sex scene. But not so far below that I wouldn't go to Spain for the main purpose of mongering. Spain probably wouldn't be ideal for you since you seem to really want the German and Austrian girls, and there just aren't a lot of those types working in Spain. I recommend that you stick with Germany. And if you want insane butt fucking Woodman-style, then go to Brazil.
I don't have personal experience with Austria, but I have RTFF extensively on it, and the general conclusion from those in the know seems to be that Germany is still the better choice overall. For now, if you stick with Germany you can be pretty confident that you're getting access to the best action in Europe. Switzerland would also be good and probably on par with Germany if it wasn't so damned expensive!
As I have said, I like Spain but it is a cut below Germany when it comes to the sex scene. But not so far below that I wouldn't go to Spain for the main purpose of mongering. Spain probably wouldn't be ideal for you since you seem to really want the German and Austrian girls, and there just aren't a lot of those types working in Spain. I recommend that you stick with Germany. And if you want insane butt fucking Woodman-style, then go to Brazil.Hahaha insane butt fucking = Brazil LOL)).
Sometimes, you get some crazy Anal girl in German FKK too. Not this year, but last year in September, I had this German girl from Cologne, who I had anal sex with and she kept on telling me to fuck her anal harder that even I began to scare her anal will be ripped apart. But it was fine. Seriously at that moment I was amazed what human body (asshole) can take. LOL.
Crazy nympho girl you get sometimes huh?
In FKK it is not always good session, but when I find these nympho girl now and them, I repeat and take my sexual experience to next level.
Then the girl is gone (obviously as they won't stay in one club for more than x years or not even), then I sometimes feel bit of nostalgia in sexual way aren't FKK great memory palace or us monger. LOL.
I buy sexual memories and not sex.
I didn't say that. I made no such statement. Now if I felt that way believe me I would come right out and say it. And you make it seem that just by offering to pay more that anal and BBBJ / CIM are on the menu in Prague. My experience was that the majority of the girls in Prague would do neither regardless of what you offered to pay. It's all relative, and my point is that in my opinion there are other places to monger that are much better than Prague, and if an FKK lover goes to Prague looking for a good time, they most probably will come away disappointed.
Oh, and Brazil is a place where you can get a girl to move from the bed and step into a hot tub. Done that a few times myself. And you can fuck 70% of the Brazilian tutes in the butt LOL! Here are some shots of one of my best Brazilian memories who I call "little Debbie". After spending time in the hot tub with her, I performed a deep anal exploratory in her anus missionary-style while we lustfully DFK'd. She was very accommodating, so I took my time traveling along her Hershey highway until I finally nutted. Going to get in the hot tub! Yeah! Going to make me sweat! Yeah! LOLOLOL!Soft shorties, like the one in phostos, are perfect for anal, like skinny ones. (oh just realized that most are perfect!
Ahahah.
Great work buddy.
IT.
StarletVoyager
11-25-14, 00:05
I was in FKK goldentime vienna last may it was like a mixture of frankfurt girls with a smaller artemis set up. The girls had incredible bodies maybe the best I've seen but for some reason pretty face were not widespread. Vienna itself is really an incredible city worth going out of the way just to visit on a european optiflick tour. Globe in switzerland putting aside the extortionist prices for me was like a house of playboy models offering exquisite service levels. Zurich was fantastic for night clubbing. The girls at globe had slim bodies busty chests and very pretty faces across the board. The best place I've been to. I'm back to artemis in December see travel section. the girls at goldentime told me the girls at babylon were just normal fkk type girls dressed and made up extravagantly. however on the whole frankfurt probably wins money and girl wise and when i say frankfurt for me at least frankfurt=oase lol.
Sometimes, you get some crazy Anal girl in German FKK too. Not this year, but last year in September, I had this German girl from Cologne, who I had anal sex with and she kept on telling me to fuck her anal harder that even I began to scare her anal will be ripped apart. But it was fine. Seriously at that moment I was amazed what human body (asshole) can take. LOL. Crazy nympho girl you get sometimes huh?
Then the girl is gone (obviously as they won't stay in one club for more than x years or not even), then I sometimes feel bit of nostalgia in sexual way aren't FKK great memory palace or us monger. LOL. I buy sexual memories and not sex.Sometimes you get lucky and score a nymph. And sometimes the scene can get funny too! One time I was at Artemis cornholing this Romanian girl, and I was telling her to say all kinds of stuff, and she would say it without hesitation. I told her, "Say fuck me in the ass! Fuck my [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) chute!" And so she says it, "Fuck me in the ass! Fuck my [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) chute!" LOL! And then out of nowhere she just blurts out, "My asshole is paradise! My asshole is paradise on earth!" LOLOLOL! I almost wanted to stop the butt fucking just to start laughing hahaha! But I soldiered on like a good cornholer and nutted in her asshole LOL! And yes, as I always say, the girls change, but the mongers stay the same. Well, we pick up a few new bros every now and then!
At The Cane & At Fiddycent.
Thanks both of you guys for giving some insight on how Mongering is in Prague, couple of points that I take out of the story that you guys have mentioned is, from what I understand is, FKK is really unique in the sense there can be no comparison to that with anything else in the world even though Sex is a common human necessity and a hobby found everywhere on this Planet. First the point made by The cane on It is very unlikely to get a BBBJ in Prague is a big. Big. Turn off for me!! Does it mean no girl, absolutely no girl would be a ready to do a BBBJ in Prague?
Second to Fiddycent You said that Prague still offers something unique compared to the FKK Scene in Germany what does that unique means? I understand that you were referring to the Service Apartments in Prague right? But how is it Unique I mean Unique is something as it is in the FKK where all the girls are stark Naked and you can check out the Goods before you get in to a deal. That is sheer convenience to the core for anyone. Where else in the world can you do this? So can you please explain us what this uniqueness is? You also said that Mongering in Prague can be also cheap as FKK in Germany, But also you said that by giving an example that.
You will see that prices for all services are listed. Most girls operate on a base rate of 1500 Kc per hour, or about 60 Euros. Add kissing +500 Kc and BBBJ to CIM is only +500 Kc more. That would put it at around 2500 Kc = 100 Euros.But that's not always the case in a FKK in Germany a lot of girls do Kissing in the standard 50 Euro Session so how is Prague is Cheap than a FKK in Germany, don't get me wrong I am not challenging you but I am just trying to understand how is it cheap? In what sense? If a Girl in Prague charges extra for Kissing and also a BBBJ IS NOT Possible, I would anyways lean in favour of a FKK Yes I may not get Authentic Czech Girls in Germany in a FKK but that is a Trade Off one has to do for service against country of origin. I am still exploring if Prague is worth all that :confused:
Hessen Bub
11-25-14, 07:53
Could we get back to topic? This thread is "German FKK Clubs. Lounge and chat area", not Prague. Thanks.
HB.
Could we get back to topic? This thread is "German FKK Clubs. Lounge and chat area", not Prague. Thanks.
HB.We are comparing, discussing the goodness of FKK in Germany against Mongering in Prague, So we are still on topic and talking about FKK in Germany. :)
Anyone is free to post here what he feels like, as long as it has some discussion on the German FKK scene in general. And this is a FKK Lounge and Chat Area. So lets not have a situation where one person is directing the other what to post and what not to post!
We are comparing, discussing the goodness of FKK in Germany against Mongering in Prague, So we are still on topic and talking about FKK in Germany. :)And why did I know that HB would be the one to complain? Complain, complain, complain! Occasionally people want to know how this place or that in Europe compares to the German FKKs. I think it's perfectly legitimate to discuss that right here in this particular thread. Switzerland versus Germany is a common comparison. We are remaining on topic in a thread like this one by making these comparisons and giving feedback to people's questions, and at least in my posts I keep saying that the FKKs and the German scene is the best in Europe. I believe going on talking about the PI is a bit much, but people do always want to know how going to one place compares to going to others, and a thread labeled "lounge and chat area" is perfect for that!
At The Cane & At Fiddycent.
Thanks both of you guys for giving some insight on how Mongering is in Prague, couple of points that I take out of the story that you guys have mentioned is, from what I understand is, FKK is really unique in the sense there can be no comparison to that with anything else in the world.Brazilian termas. Also, as much as I like Fiddy Cent, I believe he is a bit biased in his views on Prague because he has a personal attachment to it. Regarding BBBJs, even he himself said in one of his previous posts that BBBJs are considered to be an extra in Prague! So already right there you can see that on that front we're already talking something that's "less" desirable in Prague than what's in Germany. From my experience, it's an extra that a lot of the girls in Prague don't want to provide either! Yes, there will be some. And YMMV if you get some regulars like Fiddy has. But on the whole, it will be harder for you to get a BBBJ / CIM session in Prague. And that's the plain truth!
And why did I know that HB would be the one to complain? Complain, complain, complain! Occasionally people want to know how this place or that in Europe compares to the German FKKs. I think it's perfectly legitimate to discuss that right here in this particular thread. Switzerland versus Germany is a common comparison. We are remaining on topic in a thread like this one by making these comparisons and giving feedback to people's questions, and at least in my posts I keep saying that the FKKs and the German scene is the best in Europe. I believe going on talking about the PI is a bit much, but people do always want to know how going to one place compares to going to others, and a thread labeled "lounge and chat area" is perfect for that!Thanks for understanding my perspective!
And why did I know that HB would be the one to complain? Complain, complain, complain! Occasionally people want to know how this place or that in Europe compares to the German FKKs. I think it's perfectly legitimate to discuss that right here in this particular thread. Switzerland versus Germany is a common comparison. We are remaining on topic in a thread like this one by making these comparisons and giving feedback to people's questions, and at least in my posts I keep saying that the FKKs and the German scene is the best in Europe. I believe going on talking about the PI is a bit much, but people do always want to know how going to one place compares to going to others, and a thread labeled "lounge and chat area" is perfect for that!Yes Absolutely! I see no harm in comparing FKK with other mongering destinations anywhere else! If it gives some new ideas and information. I was still on topic! Thanks "The Cane" for the Support !! :)
And YMMV if you get some regulars like Fiddy has. But on the whole, it will be harder for you to get a BBBJ / CIM session in Prague. And that's the plain truth!What about Kissing even Kissing is extra ?
What about Kissing even Kissing is extra ?Kissing absolutely is not standard in Prague and not easy to come by. Now me, I never ask a girl if I can kiss her or how much for kissing. For me, kissing is so much more satisfying and fulfilling when it happens naturally between me and the girl. The best place I've found for natural, "non-negotiated", lustful, DFK kissing for free is Brazil. Plenty of the Brazilian girls are all in your mouth (and you in theirs) in the termas before heading to the room to do the nasty. If you are kissing on a girl like that in a terma, then you better take her too lest you totally tick her off LOL!
What about Kissing even Kissing is extra ?Hello Jooeey.
Even at a club at FKK Oase or FKK Palace, some girls won't kiss for 50 Euros. Would you not agree?
Please, you really need to read my first two posts. Everything is laid out for you. That is the truth. You just need to do some homework with the information I provided. I like both FKKs and the private apartment girls that you find in Prague. Do not compare apples to oranges. The last girl I visited in Prague did offer BBBJ and CIM. For 2 hours at the private apartment, I paid 4500 Kc. To break it down it is 1500 Kc x 2 h = 3000 Kc. Add kissing + 500 Kc + 500 Kc BBBJ and + 500 Kc CIM. That equals 4500 Kc. That equates to 180 Euros. The added bonus is GFE. The girl is 22 year old With a pretty face, natural see cups, and tight pussy. Yes, she was a nice kisser too. Imagine sharing a bath with her after a session of sex. Champagne, if you like. You can bring your own. I gave her a nice massage and we cuddled after sex.
A similar girl at a FKK will charge 200 Euros for 2 hours (including kissing, BBBJ) + 50 Euros for CIM and you will pay 250 Euros, not including your entry fee to the FKK. Are you beginning to see the benefit of this setup? You do not have to stay 2 hours, of course. The girls do offer 30 minute sessions as well, but you do get what you pay for.
The decision is yours. I won't tie up the forum any more. After all, this page is about German FKKs. I do visit these places as well for a different experience. I especially like to go for the club atmosphere.
FiddyCent.
For extra 50 euro I do putting my finger in her ass session, I love it, I do it like woodman style!
For kissing some kiss, some just don't thanks to the movie "pretty women" by Richard Gere that some tutes began this no kidding trend.
However, those who do not kiss begin to kiss after you know them and become friend, it happen to me few times, it is for free.
Also I met the best kisser in my life in FKK, she used to eat half my face, lick my face, eyes, nose etc. And she lick my teeth and gum. Crazy kisser she was and it was free.
I conclude in FKK, some you win, some you lose when you win, swing big though. LOL.
Hello Jooeey.
Even at a club at FKK Oase or FKK Palace, some girls won't kiss for 50 Euros. Would you not agree?
FiddyCent.Luckily I have never had to pay anything extra for Kissing in so far the FKK Clubs that I have been in and around Frankfurt!
Luckily I have never had to pay anything extra for Kissing in so far the FKK Clubs that I have been in and around Frankfurt!Hello Jooeey.
Lucky for you the girls in the Frankfurt clubs have not tried to upsell you to only include kissing for a 1 hour session. I know that some German girls tend not to kiss anyone at any price. Which Frankfurt clubs have you been to?
FiddyCent.
Hello Jooeey.
Lucky for you the girls in the Frankfurt clubs have not tried to upsell you to only include kissing for a 1 hour session. I know that some German girls tend not to kiss anyone at any price. Which Frankfurt clubs have you been to?
FiddyCent.All the Big Four! :)
Luckily I have never had to pay anything extra for Kissing in so far the FKK Clubs that I have been in and around Frankfurt!I've never paid extra for kissing in Germany either and never will. Not only that, but I've never had an FKK girl even try to up-sell me on kissing even once. This includes the Berlin, Frankfurt, and Dusseldorf areas. There have been enough reports that obviously it happens, but it never has with me. I'm a consistent 1 hour minimum, 100 euros monger so that may have something to do with it. I don't know. I just know that I'm never going to pay for kissing. Simply out of the question. I don't pay for that, and my experience has shown that "free kissing" is on the menu in Germany often enough that I'm satisfied with its availability there.
Now me, I never ask a girl if I can kiss her or how much for kissing.I also follow the same protocol. I never ask about kissing prior to going to the room. And even when a FKK girl offers, I usually only do it sparingly.
For me, kissing is so much more satisfying and fulfilling when it happens naturally between me and the girl. The best place I've found for natural, "non-negotiated", lustful, DFK kissing for free is Brazil.Although, not exactly the same. I believe this is similar to the satisfaction and fulfillment when banging normal girls that Finnish Fucker and I wrote about (even though most normal girls will never come close to the skill level of an FKK girl). For the record, I previously stated that banging normal girls is accompanied by an adrenaline rush only the first time you bang her. It quickly fades to the point it gets boring after about a month of banging the same girl, LOL.
And yes, throughout of my life, all of these short-term relationships that I've had, have been cheap or free. In other words, we alternated on paying restaurant bills. It all evened out, because the girl would invite me to her flat, cook me dinner, and all I had to do was bring wine. It's a nice feeling knowing that you are not on the clock.
TC. Absolutely concur. NEVER pay extra for kissing, and if a girl declines to kiss with at least a modicum of pretence of passion then she is not worthy of being in an FKK.
TC. Absolutely concur. NEVER pay extra for kissing, and if a girl declines to kiss with at least a modicum of pretence of passion then she is not worthy of being in an FKK.In any club there might only be a handful that I'm truely drawn too, why should I narrow down the talent pool because of kissing? Imagine a club where only girls that kissed were allowed to work, that would be one empty place.
I've never paid extra for kissing in Germany either and never will. Not only that, but I've never had an FKK girl even try to up-sell me on kissing even once. This includes the Berlin, Frankfurt, and Dusseldorf areas. There have been enough reports that obviously it happens, but it never has with me. I'm a consistent 1 hour minimum, 100 euros monger so that may have something to do with it. I don't know. I just know that I'm never going to pay for kissing. Simply out of the question. I don't pay for that, and my experience has shown that "free kissing" is on the menu in Germany often enough that I'm satisfied with its availability there.Exactly same experience, and you can add Koln, Stuttgart, Austria and a few minor places. And same attitude on my side. In my case, I noticed that kissing is much more rare with german girls than with eastern europeans, this particularly true in Artemis, at least with me. Maybe different with others.
Cheers.
Kimino.
TC. Absolutely concur. NEVER pay extra for kissing, and if a girl declines to kiss with at least a modicum of pretence of passion then she is not worthy of being in an FKK.And so it makes more sense to ask before hand to the girl if she is ready to kiss without Payig extra money! But then some guys here feel that would be taking away too much fun out of it! But isn't it better guys to maybe make it a little predictable than not have it t all!
And so it makes more sense to ask before hand to the girl if she is ready to kiss without Payig extra money! But then some guys here feel that would be taking away too much fun out of it! But isn't it better guys to maybe make it a little predictable than not have it t all!It all depends on how important kissing (or whatever else you like) is to you. If important and you have to have it, then bargain for it. Make sure she does it. That's how I approach anal services. I would love for it to be more "natural", but since I know many FKK girls don't do anal, if I'm in the mood for it, then I need to ask for it to make sure her anus is available.
So, the answer is that it depends. It depends on how important it is for your session to include kissing, anal, BBBJ, etc. Once a girl becomes one of your regulars, then you can stop asking since you know what's on the menu. Another thing I've rarely paid for and will never get into the regular habit of paying for is to lick a tute's asshole. I don't even normally ask them if they allow that. If the situation and position is right, then I just go for it! In those times, I've never been asked to pay, and wouldn't.
There was this one beautiful Russian girl at BumAlp in Switzerland who wanted to charge me extra to tongue her Slav girl anus. The subject came up before the session. She was so fucking hot that I agreed to pay an up charge just to put my mouth to her butt hole. This is the only time I can recall having paid extra to lick tute anus, and I do not regret it. She was just that fine. And overall she was a damn good fuck whose own mouth was voracious on my dick, and whose pussy was quite pleasurable milking on same. Here are her pictures from the BumsAlp website. I slurped on that blue-eyed, blonde Ruskie anus yes sir I did! And I paid extra for it! I am not ashamed:
http://www.bumsalp.ch/erotik-club-zuerich-det.php?galerie_id=1319
And so it makes more sense to ask before hand to the girl if she is ready to kiss without Payig extra money! But then some guys here feel that would be taking away too much fun out of it! But isn't it better guys to maybe make it a little predictable than not have it t all!Absolutely! Do what is better for you and have great fun. There's no rules. Everybody is different, have different tastes and different modus operandi. There's no right or wrong, there's' just what better fits to you.
Still it's nice to share different point of views.
Cheers.
Kimino.
In any club there might only be a handful that I'm truely drawn too, why should I narrow down the talent pool because of kissing? Imagine a club where only girls that kissed were allowed to work, that would be one empty place.If kissing is not important then one wouldn't narrow the choice on that basis and would certainly not pay extra. If kissing is important it is still inappropriate to pay as the vast majority of girls provide it free. Just my view
If kissing is not important then one wouldn't narrow the choice on that basis and would certainly not pay extra. If kissing is important it is still inappropriate to pay as the vast majority of girls provide it free. Just my viewSo correctly said! Very True!!
Does anyone know what happened with Freiercafe? It is non accessible now.
Vito Corleone
11-30-14, 03:43
Does anyone know what happened with Freiercafe? It is non accessible now.It still works.
Mr Bluenose
11-30-14, 08:33
Does anyone know what happened with Freiercafe? It is non accessible now.Seems to working Ok this morning.
Citizen Kane
12-01-14, 18:13
http://www.thelocal.de/20141201/police-brothel-raids-net-people-traffickers-stuttgart-austria-bosnia-romania
Mentions 4 large 'brothels' but seems to confuse FKK clubs with FKK in the traditional sense towards the end.
Anyone seen / heard anything on the ground?
Hessen Bub
12-02-14, 12:21
http://www.thelocal.de/20141201/police-brothel-raids-net-people-traffickers-stuttgart-austria-bosnia-romania
Mentions 4 large 'brothels' but seems to confuse FKK clubs with FKK in the traditional sense towards the end.
Anyone seen / heard anything on the ground?Paradise in Saarbrcken was one of the clubs, also other clubs from Mr. Rudloff. Oase was visited by the authorities recently, also Palace.
http://www.bild.de/regional/saarland/razzia/tv-star-bei-puff-razzia-festgenommen-38782688.bild.html
HB.
Paradise in Saarbrcken was one of the clubs, also other clubs from Mr. Rudloff. Oase was visited by the authorities recently, also Palace.
http://www.bild.de/regional/saarland/razzia/tv-star-bei-puff-razzia-festgenommen-38782688.bild.html
HBThis is alarming. Why were they visited? Or busted for?
I know there are some pimping exist in German FKK (eg: famous Abdel girls), but generally speaking German FKK is promptly following all the rules.
Even with Abdel girls, I never felt any danger having session with them.
I wonder why police is cracking into the most safest working girl house called FKK?
PussyLiccker
12-02-14, 12:50
If kissing is not important then one wouldn't narrow the choice on that basis and would certainly not pay extra. If kissing is important it is still inappropriate to pay as the vast majority of girls provide it free. Just my viewI agree with not paying extra for kissing. I've met lots of girls that offers it part of standard fees that paying extra for it turns me off. Also, it reinforces her to keep charging as extra. I've heard of girls at Oase that used to kiss as standard service, but no more.
Some clubs, definitely ask the girl if she does kissing before going into the room. Especially at the clubs where girls will shark tourists with extras that are not extras. Some clubs has more couch action culture, and can get kissing on the couch. I used to get kissing at Oase before room lots of times in the past with the girls. Now it seems they want 1 HR guarantee or charge Palace kissing tariff of 50 for the service. In these environments, definitely make clear what you'd like in the room. Although recently, I did find an Oase girl that would provide couch action and kissing, but it's really not the club for it as it's not easy to find those types anymore. At Sharks, I met a girl that would let it be known she likes to shove her tongue at you outside the room. It's just who you run into. Some girls just don't do it, and some prefer it. My fav girl last trip was one that prefers kissing and GFE over other.
NRW are more couch action culture with service clubs have most girls that kisses pre-zimmer.
Sometimes interaction with the girl leads it, and if it doesn't and hard to get a good idea and you must require it, just ask so you don't get disappointed in the room. Some girls may pull, yes they do, then in the room say for 1 HR or for extra, make sure it's clear agreement before running into such situation. I personally would just walk out on girls like this.
How does one and should react if the girl before going in the room has agreed kissing as part of the standard service but after going in to the room says she wants extra for kissing?
What does one do? Boycott the session?? Just walk out?
And what if she creates a scene? A Ruckus out of it?
I wonder why police is cracking into the most safest working girl house called FKK?Prostitution is somewhat of a shady business which is mostly managed by shady characters and it needs to be kept in check. Pure and simple. There is pimping, illegal workers, drugs, occasional girl who may not have reached a certain age. Yes, in FKKs too although in comparison with other types of establishements one can perhaps say it is among the cleaner ones. Then there is the biggest crime of all: Tax evasion. You may be forgiven for lots of stuff, but do not under any circumstances get cought cheating on your taxes in Germany. Those are the tough cops :-)
Checks and balances my friend. Needs to be done. Oh, and policemen like to look at nekkid chicks too.
Hessen Bub
12-02-14, 20:19
The purpose of FKK clubs is to make prostitution look like a big safe clean playground for men. But the dark side of the business is still there. Even if it is hidden for the normal client who doesn't want to see it. I got beaten up here on the board for stating that many girls are trafficked, or have been lured into the business by lover boys.
HB.
UShobbyist
12-02-14, 21:21
How does one and should react if the girl before going in the room has agreed kissing as part of the standard service but after going in to the room says she wants extra for kissing?
What does one do? Boycott the session?? Just walk out?
And what if she creates a scene? A Ruckus out of it?You should walk out of the room immediately and tell the front desk manager about this situation.
Hi all,
Since my visa is ending at about 20th of January I started to plan my 4th visit to FKKland.
It can be to Frankfurt or Cologne or maybe to Berlin.
My travel will probably start about 15th of January and will end about 18th.
Do you think that I would be affected because of Christmas thing?
What percent of girls will still be in their hometown?
Oh, and policemen like to look at nekkid chicks too.But they like fucking them too! You should see all of the badges from police departments all over the USA on the walls of the bar in the Hotel del Rey! It was only recently that the state of Hawaii changed the law that allowed undercover cops to actually bang the tutes as a part of proving the case of illegal prostitution against them! What a crock that was!
But they like fucking them too! You should see all of the badges from police departments all over the USA on the walls of the bar in the Hotel del Rey! It was only recently that the state of Hawaii changed the law that allowed undercover cops to actually bang the tutes as a part of proving the case of illegal prostitution against them! What a crock that was!Wow, now I want to be a police officer in Hawaii.
I will be undercover cop prostitute hunter I will hand cuff them and punish them.
What a job, Hawaiian handcuff BDSM supported by tax.
Hi fellas,
I started visiting FKKs back in 2010 and have been visiting them a few times per year since then. Seems the scene of FKK is changing rapidly. Back in 2010 I was finding more international variety with girls from all over the Europe including Germany, South America, Asia, etc. Now a days seems most clubs are dominated by Romanians or Bulgarians. It's nice, but I like variety. Any suggestion about an FKK that is still diverse? I mostly hang around in Sharks, World, Palace, Samya, etc, but I am willing to try any club in any part of the country!
Thanks!
You should walk out of the room immediately and tell the front desk manager about this situation.A lot of times (Most of the times) the Manager tend to take side of the girl , has happened with me once not for the Kissing thing. But some other thing. But the point I am making is even though you would go to the Manager complaining about her. There is no way you can prove it, that she actually said that. Can get in to a a bit of Cat and Mouse Game.
It was only recently that the state of Hawaii changed the law that allowed undercover cops to actually bang the tutes as a part of proving the case of illegal prostitution against them! What a crock that was!Now that's what you call a deep cover operation.
.....Since my visa is ending at about 20th of January I started to plan my 4th visit to FKKland......
Do you think that I would be affected because of Christmas thing?
What percent of girls will still be in their hometown?
There are answers (so far as it can be answered) to this under the FKK FAQ thread.
Hessen Bub
12-05-14, 19:58
Another obviously expendable survey.
HB.
Another obviously expendable survey.
HB.We will see. Technology / data aid transparency, and hopefully will stop the exaggeration on lineups / stunner claims OR help those who need glasses.
These never ending lists are like 1980's bulletin boards.
UShobbyist
12-05-14, 20:53
A lot of times (Most of the times) the Manager tend to take side of the girl , has happened with me once not for the Kissing thing. But some other thing. But the point I am making is even though you would go to the Manager complaining about her. There is no way you can prove it, that she actually said that. Can get in to a a bit of Cat and Mouse Game.The girl did this to you. It's highly unlikely she did this type of scam to you ONLY. She must have done this to other customers too. So your complaining might work because other customers might complain about this girl to the manager before.
Nille Copenhagen
12-06-14, 01:23
Hey guys and girls,
I have recently been told via a FKK-girl, that she has knowledge of a murder of another FKK-girl inside a club, the victim's head was decapitated by a sick / psycho guest.
I don't have more details to share, but it seems to have a strong impact on the girl who told this story.
She moved on and refused to go back the FKK environment.
I can't say if it's true or not, I can't find anything via Google nor in the French / Dutch / German forums.
Do you have any knowledge of this story, please share and comment as I find it very hard to believer.
But I'm not surprise if there are sick / psycho people among the guests (maybe drugs was involved).
I'm just looking for facts and proofs that it did happen in this case.
Please share your knowledge of this case if any.
NC
Hey guys and girls,
I have recently been told via a FKK-girl, that she has knowledge of.
A murder of another FKK-girl inside a club, the victim's head was decapitated by a sick / psycho guest.
I don't have more details to share, but it seems to have a strong impact on the girl who told this story.
She moved on and refused to go back the FKK environment.
I can't say if it's true or not, I can't find anything via Google nor in the French / Dutch / German forums.
Do you have any knowledge of this story, please share and comment as I find it very hard to believer.
But I'm not surprise if there are sick / psycho people among the guests (maybe drugs was involved).
I'm just looking for facts and proofs that it did happen in this case.
Please share your knowledge of this case if any.
NCSound BS to me.
But, I know few stories that there was a guest with razor blade in his mouth, girls noticed it and called security.
Another one was guest making little holes on condoms with needle. Sick guys huh?
Also I know there was big fight between guests and security at FKK Artemis and security lost that fight. This made it to news paper and TV news, so this fight story is true I don't know for other 2 stories I heard above.
But depicted head? Never heard of that. If that happened we will hear that on CNN level story though. So sound BS to me.
Anything like that would have been big news. A couple of years ago a Romanian girl was murdered while doing escort work, it was all over the local news and discussed on forums. In the Netherlands there was a girl that was shot in a club by a formerly regular who had fallen in love with her (she wouldn't leave the job and wouldn't see him anymore), this was on the national news even. When it happened, when the court case began and when there had been sentencing.
If anything like this had happened news would spread throughout the club world in a heartbeat. Girls across clubs know each other and guys as well.
Hessen Bub
12-06-14, 15:14
A murder of another FKK-girl inside a club, the victim's head was decapitated by a sick / psycho guest.
You fell for a fairytale.
HB.
Nille Copenhagen
12-06-14, 16:18
You fell for a fairytale.
HB.Well I didn't fell for it, therefore I'm asking for your help.
The girl was shocked by the incident and refused to tell which club it happened in, in fear of the management.
She might be a good actress?
Hessen Bub
12-06-14, 22:20
She doesn't have to be a good actress. Maybe she heard from other girls. Girls are also insisting that a girl died in one of the rooms at Paradise Stuttgart and refuse to go to that room.
HB.
StarletVoyager
12-07-14, 01:35
Is there any truth in a girl dying recently at paradise or am I losing the plot here??I for one would be extremely sad and furious that such a thing could happen. On a happier unrelated matter I've told some of my academic buddies here about the FKK scene but because they can't visualise it are showing little interest in visiting germany right now. When I sit in a bar with them I hear them give FKK 5's a 10 and they can't believe I'm not getting as excited about what to me are very normal dull girls. Do any of you find this blurring of FKK fantasy worlds with real world girls becoming more and more seperated as I do. Unless a girl is 8-9/10 I'm just not even bothered to get up LOL.
Nille Copenhagen
12-07-14, 10:15
Is there any truth in a girl dying recently at paradise or am I losing the plot here??I for one would be extremely sad and furious that such a thing could happen. On a happier unrelated matter I've told some of my academic buddies here about the FKK scene but because they can't visualise it are showing little interest in visiting germany right now. When I sit in a bar with them I hear them give FKK 5's a 10 and they can't believe I'm not getting as excited about what to me are very normal dull girls. Do any of you find this blurring of FKK fantasy worlds with real world girls becoming more and more seperated as I do. Unless a girl is 8-9/10 I'm just not even bothered to get up LOL.You have a problem, man, You are too focus on the visual, (Optificken) I do fuck the beautiful FKK girls, but in normal life I do flirt and fuck less beautiful girls.
I just love girls and it's not only about the visual appearance.
Hessen Bub
12-07-14, 10:54
No girl died at Paradise.
HB.
Seriously, FKK is owned by rather grey area characters and also some FKK is reported to be run by gang of bikers. So who would commit such a crime like murder in clubs that are owned by wise guys.
All FKK is more or less safe and once in awhile girls tell me freaky stories but it does not exceed to the level of murder.
However, there are clients that fly in more than 10 hours to see certain girls at FKK EVERY month! And this girl tell me each time he comes he book her for whole day like 8 hours. Most of time he talks to her and only fuck once or twice and that is freaking me out. I mean fly ten hours to see her and book her whole day every day during his visit and apparently all he talks about is how he love her and marry her once she quit her job at FKK. This freaks her out as it is bit obsessive.
So there are freaks but not psycko at FKK as far as I know.
unrelated matter I've told some of my academic buddies here about the FKK scene but because they can't visualise it are showing little interest in visiting germany right now. When I sit in a bar with them I hear them give FKK 5's a 10 and they can't believe I'm not getting as excited about what to me are very normal dull girls. How many here who've told their buddies about their travels haven't had to have this type of conversation? Just last night my one buddy brought about a twisted alternative to my travels by suggesting I find a girl and put her up in an apartment and request service from her as payment instead of spending my money on girls 'the normal way'. I know where he's going, just not sure he thought it all the way thru as a valid argument to cut out this hobby and replace it with one girl who wouldn't be a girlfriend but a bootycall that you'd make every other day (his schedule). Financially, I think that would be much more expensive than my spending on the hobby. Your not going to get those 3 x's a week booty calls by putting her up in a crappy place, it would have to be something in the one thousand dollar per month range. Would one spend twelve grand on one girl or spread it around to a variety of women?
Your not going to get those 3 x's a week booty calls by putting her up in a crappy place, it would have to be something in the one thousand dollar per month range.The thousand dollar per month range wouldn't cut it in the nicest parts of the biggest American cities. That's not enough money. Not even close. But not only that, your buddy totally isn't getting it. These women value cash money versus in-kind goods and services. They don't want you to put them up in some place. At least not without putting some cold, hard cash in their hands as well! These women want cash money first and foremost to do with as they please. That could be to pay for a nice apartment or house. Or, it could be so that they can snort it up their nose or give it to their "man". Of course your buddy hasn't thought it through. His first wrong assumption being that they want to be "put up" versus "paid up"! He's got it seared into his brain that spending money on women "the normal way" is the only cost-effective and "correct" way to go. We mongers know that's not true. Using his method you're paying a lot more, you're getting a lot less on many counts (variety, sheer volume, and so on), and the arrangement will ultimately fail due to the nature of human emotions. I mean, is it a relationship you want or what? If so, then just plain start living together and maybe get married. Bottom line is your buddy is ignorant to the ways of what motivates tutes and mongers and just doesn't get it.
Sometimes when in the streets of my city, something remind me the FKK's. When I am trying to arrange an escort who is just 7 and have to wait 10 other guys that will reserve her. And pay more than 200 Euro for a terrible service. I miss the FKKland. As I am not as unlucky as Mr. Ho so I can just fly 3 hours and I am there and there are 5 flights every day from Istanbul to Frankfurt. But not always your schedule, your financial situation being appropiate so I just have to relieve myself. I come to this website and read posts. Sometimes at work I take the risk and go to the website of Sharks or Artemis. (Note: You can use browser's stealth mode for this. Moreover you shoudl because before I do this when someone come and write www to my browser it was being auto completed www.internationalsexguide.com.anyway I have solved it now) So I mean a song a flavor that you sense in there especially the one in locker's room or odour of a shampoo that you use there reminds you that placess. You were happy there. Your desires were under warranty of being satisfied. I am just being the impulsive boy there. I eat whenever and whatever I want. I drink also. And my car. On the autobahn on the way back to my hotel sun is born and beneath the fog of Germany you see it. So a nice song plays in the radio. And you feel it is worth living. Nasty words of the girls in FKK is in your ear. And their perfume is still on your body. Last time on my last day in Frankfurt. Maybe I wrote here before but just needed to repeat. I have seen a strip club which has windows that are allowing that you see inside. Girls are dancing in front of these windows. And I stopped the car and wattched them and sun was rising and fog was on the river. I had arrived my hotel and put my alarm not to cathc flight. And you go back to your country and think life is not fair. And I don't know. I miss FKK land.
Just my feelings.
Regards.
Sometimes when in the streets of my city, something remind me the FKK's. When I am trying to arrange an escort who is just 7 and have to wait 10 other guys that will reserve her. And pay more than 200 Euro for a terrible service. I miss the FKKland. As I am not as unlucky as Mr. Ho so I can just fly 3 hours and I am there and there are 5 flights every day from Istanbul to Frankfurt. But not always your schedule, your financial situation being appropiate so I just have to relieve myself. I come to this website and read posts. Sometimes at work I take the risk and go to the website of Sharks or Artemis. (Note: You can use browser's stealth mode for this. Moreover you shoudl because before I do this when someone come and write www to my browser it was being auto completed www.internationalsexguide.com.anyway I have solved it now) So I mean a song a flavor that you sense in there especially the one in locker's room or odour of a shampoo that you use there reminds you that placess. You were happy there. Your desires were under warranty of being satisfied. I am just being the impulsive boy there. I eat whenever and whatever I want. I drink also. And my car. On the autobahn on the way back to my hotel sun is born and beneath the fog of Germany you see it. So a nice song plays in the radio. And you feel it is worth living. Nasty words of the girls in FKK is in your ear. And their perfume is still on your body. Last time on my last day in Frankfurt. Maybe I wrote here before but just needed to repeat. I have seen a strip club which has windows that are allowing that you see inside. Girls are dancing in front of these windows. And I stopped the car and wattched them and sun was rising and fog was on the river. I had arrived my hotel and put my alarm not to cathc flight. And you go back to your country and think life is not fair. And I don't know. I miss FKK land.
Just my feelings.
Regards.Hahaha, you trying to kill me? LOL.
I miss FKK too and I am attached to some of the girls and we even connected on facebook an I now their real name, life etc.
But man, take it this way, FKK girls for me 'some that I really got to know personally is like paid sex friends who come and go and I feel sentimental too, but it is better them than having normal girl who is beautiful and you lose them, that is real pain.
I feel you that you miss the not just FKK girls but the FKK the place itself. I mean my normally 10 or 12 days trip to FKK land is magical holiday where I do nothing but sex, eat and drink coffee in nice cafes and chilll because my whole stay is dedicated to going to FKK everyday you know, so for me it is like heaven days, so sure I miss every minutes of that heaven I provide for myself once or twice a year and I partly live for that days it is best time I can remember.
But man up buddy, you are just 3 hours away! Plus turkey has amazing food man! I went to your country 3 times and people, culture and food was amazing! Plus you are just 3 hours away, me 12 hours man but I always take sleeping pill so it like one hour flight for me.
Family vs fun is the big question. Do you get married and go down that financial path with kids, a mortgage, a wife who refuses to go back to work and putting the kids thru college? Or keep life simpler and enjoy all the things money can rent for an hour?
StarletVoyager
12-08-14, 23:09
"You have a problem, man, You are too focus on the visual, (Optificken)" in fact the only thing I'm focused on are the optificken. The only reason I goto FKK clubs is to find girls that would be exceedingly difficult to get into bed quickly in the real world. To goto an FKK and look for average looking girls is not why I go. So it comes down to two choices-1) a stunning optificken girl for 1 hour with average service - vs 2) an average looking girl with exceptional service for one hour-you know what I'd pick? yep that's number 1 any day of the year LOL! We are all different in what we desire just my thoughts. merry xmas and seasonal greetings to all.....i am more likely to place more emphasis on the personality of a girl in the "real" world over looks but fkk's for me are just not about that. and a happy new year...
Member #4581
12-08-14, 23:15
If I was a single guy living in one if the western EU countries, I would be flying to Germany for FKK visits fairly regularly, and of course if I lived in Germany itself, all the better that would be. Flying from North America or Asia is more painful, more expensive, and also need to take off several days, which means you have to use your vacation days at work. But if you lived in western EU, it is easier. Flights are an hour or two, so you can fly for the weekend and back, and if you book in advance, the low cost airlines cost less than 100 bucks for a round trip.
One guy I met in the summer, flew in from England in one of these cheap airlines, paying something like 30 pounds each way. He rented a car, probably not very expensive. He was spending his nights all the way to closing in the club, and would just sleep in the car for a few hours after close. It being summer helped. Basically, he maximized the in-the-club to outside-the-club expense.
Every time I go on one of these visits, I budget something like $3000 for my clubbing activities. On the recent visit, the weak Euro helped me. This is for 4 days of clubbing and does not include hotel room, transportation etc. But I found out that it is not all that easy to spend. Unless you take a whole bunch of extras, CIMs, two girls at the same time with lesbo shows, anals, etc, which I generally don't do, it takes time and energy to spend and I always come in quite a bit below by budget.
On the other hand, if you are a local, and visit clubs every week or even more than a week, you could probably end up spending more than $50000 a year, I reckon. Got to be expensive.
Btw, if you login to ISG at work, even with a private browser, would be quite risky. Companies track every single click these days. I don't know about other countries, but in the US, you could easily lose your job. Not worth it.
If I was a single guy living in one if the western EU countries, I would be flying to Germany for FKK visits fairly regularly, and of course if I lived in Germany itself, all the better that would be. Flying from North America or Asia is more painful, more expensive, and also need to take off several days, which means you have to use your vacation days at work. But if you lived in western EU, it is easier. Flights are an hour or two, so you can fly for the weekend and back, and if you book in advance, the low cost airlines cost less than 100 bucks for a round trip.
One guy I met in the summer, flew in from England in one of these cheap airlines, paying something like 30 pounds each way. He rented a car, probably not very expensive. He was spending his nights all the way to closing in the club, and would just sleep in the car for a few hours after close. It being summer helped. Basically, he maximized the in-the-club to outside-the-club expense.
Btw, if you login to ISG at work, even with a private browser, would be quite risky. Companies track every single click these days. I don't know about other countries, but in the US, you could easily lose your job. Not worth it.Jnpr I didn't know US is such a conservative country that you can be fired just because you enter ISG at work.
Your budget looked like quite high to me.
My every visit costing me around 1500-2000 Euro all inclusive.
My main problem is finding time to visit. If it was just 1 hour like Ukraine I would go every weekend. Of course visa another problem. But for 6 hours come and back I think you should have at least 3 days to spend there.
And this time smt inside me says I must go somewhere that I can play for freebies. Kiev Moscow and Odessa is best places for these activities but they are too cold for the recently till March so forget them. Also I am not sure to take a vacation to Europe is a good idea for Christmas. I am afraid every shop will be closed I will be alone in the streets because everyone with their families. I don't know. Smt inside says stay at home for Christmas and my visa is ending in late January.
Hahaha, you trying to kill me? LOL.
I miss FKK too and I am attached to some of the girls and we even connected on facebook an I now their real name, life etc.
But man up buddy, you are just 3 hours away! Plus turkey has amazing food man! I went to your country 3 times and people, culture and food was amazing! Plus you are just 3 hours away, me 12 hours man but I always take sleeping pill so it like one hour flight for me.Mr. Ho,
Thanks for the good words. I should take their name also but I have a bad habit; I always like to have sex with a different girl every time and FKK's are offering you large variety so no problem and that makes hard to make a connection and to get their phone or facebook. I don't know.
Of course if FRA don't have Palace-Sharks and Oase I would spend my short holiday in Antalya which was 25 °see at that date and enjoy the beach and sun. Anyway this is another story. You are right I miss the FKK. It is quite-easy-comfortable and nice. Here we don't have them. We have to face some narchotic types to find girls. Have to take risk being arrested and make love in a worried mood. I wish to have them in my own city than everyting would be easier. And maybe I would be a poorer man.
Regards.
Banana Boi
12-08-14, 23:48
I budget something like $3000 for my clubbing activities........This is for 4 days of clubbing and does not include hotel room, transportation etc. $3000 US = 2400 euro so that's 600 euro per day. Let's take off 100 euro average for club entry leaving you with 500 euro per day for girls. Basically that's 5 hours room time per day at 50 euro per half hour clubs. For some guys this is a lot. For others it's average especially visiting a club with a regular you spend a few hours with.
Personally finding it difficult to spend so much these days since I never pay for extras and my multi hour girls like German Sam seem long gone.
Plus turkey has amazing food man! I went to your country 3 times and people, culture and food was amazing! Plus you are just 3 hours away, me 12 hours man but I always take sleeping pill so it like one hour flight for me.Turkey also has amazing women! I liked having sex with the Turkish girls in Dubai more than the other types of girls that were there. Oh man, I still fantasize right now about how one of the Turkish girls DFK'd (voracious) and fucked in the bed. Of course, if Iceberg is Turkish then I guess it's no special thing for him to sex a Turkish tute. But, Iceberg should not feel guilty about going to FKKs. After all, some of the owners of these fine establishments are Turkish themselves LOL! And at StraletVoyager there is a third option. Find an optifiken who fucks your brains out! Now there's a gem hahaha!
Member #4581
12-09-14, 00:21
Your math is right. Some people can fuck for hours, I can't, especially if going to clubs four days in a row. (Even a blow job becomes not so pleasurable after several hours of sex in a couple of days, especially the way some girls tug and yank and pull at your dick, sometimes with teeth; I wish I was a superman and had boundless energylike others but I am not).
Again, this is a problem for people traveling from far, whereas locals can pace themselves nicely. Also, some people don't mind paying for 2 or 3 hours, but fucking intermittently and with just one finish, may be 2 at best. While I do want to spend money in the clubs, such a multi hour booking does not make sense to me. If I am paying, I want to spend a majority of that time in sex. On my last visit, I booked a 2 HR with Roxana, but spent more than half hour flipping through photos on her phone and my phone. Why the fuck do I need to pay her 50 bucks to look at photos, even if I find her charming?!
$3000 US = 2400 euro so that's 600 euro per day. Let's take off 100 euro average for club entry leaving you with 500 euro per day for girls. Basically that's 5 hours room time per day at 50 euro per half hour clubs. For some guys this is a lot. For others it's average especially visiting a club with a regular you spend a few hours with.
Personally finding it difficult to spend so much these days since I never pay for extras and my multi hour girls like German Sam seem long gone.
Turkey also has amazing women! I liked having sex with the Turkish girls in Dubai more than the other types of girls that were there. Oh man, I still fantasize right now about how one of the Turkish girls DFK'd (voracious) and fucked in the bed. Of course, if Iceberg is Turkish then I guess it's no special thing for him to sex a Turkish tute. But, Iceberg should not feel guilty about going to FKKs. After all, some of the owners of these fine establishments are Turkish themselves LOL! And at StraletVoyager there is a third option. Find an optifiken who fucks your brains out! Now there's a gem hahaha!For Turkish tutes, I love German FKK, I especially love half Turkish half European girls!
In Japan, I enjoy fucking half Japanese and half white girls, it is quite good, but cost me about 400 USD per hour minimum.
"You have a problem, man, You are too focus on the visual, (Optificken)" in fact the only thing I'm focused on are the optificken. The only reason I goto FKK clubs is to find girls that would be exceedingly difficult to get into bed quickly in the real world. To goto an FKK and look for average looking girls is not why I go. So it comes down to two choices-1) a stunning optificken girl for 1 hour with average service - vs 2) an average looking girl with exceptional service for one hour-you know what I'd pick? yep that's number 1 any day of the year LOL! We are all different in what we desire just my thoughts. merry xmas and seasonal greetings to all.....i am more likely to place more emphasis on the personality of a girl in the "real" world over looks but fkk's for me are just not about that. and a happy new year...Fucking hottie in FKK is better than fucking normal beauties, FKK is cheaper, less nerve tingling, and also alot less stress.
I even think escort services are cheaper than normal beautiful girls.
Annnd you can change each time with beautiful tutes and no worry of getting sex.
Normal beauties. Too much money, nerves, stress and times has to be invested before getting her into bed, only plus is no condom!
Hmmmm. It makes me wonder and it is eternal wonder. I think about this over and over again. Dilemma of prostitute hunter and second thoughts.
I especially love half Turkish half European girls!Big surprise: Turkey belongs to Europe.
YamaYama0519
12-09-14, 13:46
Looking at his detailed reports I am amazed at his success in giving girls orgasm.Maybe it is some oriental magic. ?No oriental magic at all. Just your consideration, endurance and tolerance towards girls could make them feel happy.
On my last visit, I booked a 2 HR with Roxana, but spent more than half hour flipping through photos on her phone and my phone. Why the fuck do I need to pay her 50 bucks to look at photos, even if I find her charming?!Only you can answer that question. You can take more than one session with same girl with a long break in between, and let someone else get an access. I do that sometimes. I rarely go 2 hours but has happened occasionally. Its still better value for me than doing an hour with ass fucking. Roxanna does not offer me her ass in any case. If I was both quick and small she might, but I would not take it. I like her pussy just fine.
However girls are fine with being paid to look at photos, and rest the pussy. They love low stress sessions as long as they don't get too bored. I don't have any photos to show the girls. LOL. And I probably would not want to look at hers for more than 5 minutes. Just a few is okay.
"So it comes down to two choices-1) a stunning optificken girl for 1 hour with average service - vs 2) an average looking girl with exceptional service for one hour-you know what I'd pick? yep that's number 1 any day of the year LOL! We are all different in what we desire just my thoughts. The reality is not many girls are super stunning, but still stunning enough to be beyond our normal reach. I agree. I would take option 1, however when they look great and give acceptable service (not perfection), I repeat them. I don't repeat stunners that are bad in the room. There is little point. When they give great service and are stunning, I repeat them very often.
So the total rating is a sum of the looks, chemistry and performance. Without fairly good looks they might not get a chance at all. There are certainly girls with good service that I don't repeat, just because they are a little too average, in the looks department. Looks is a big part of being turned on, for me. Maybe its due to having a part time GF that has an extremely good body and quite pretty face. I can't really take a large step down from her. The only problem with her, is sex is just not often enough. I have to make up the deficit.
Big surprise: Turkey belongs to Europe.Not the entire part of Turkey! Half Part of Turkey is considered Asia also and Half as Europe and that is why it is called Gateway to Europe!
Solo Traveler
12-09-14, 22:56
I don't understand German at all, and I can't speak German except for few words.
I think it will limit myself to only be able to contact people who speak English in Germany. This is not interesting and make myself very isolated from the real German people.
In my observation, the real German people don't like foreigners who do not speak German.
I think, if I can understand & speak some German at least to a conversation level, maybe it can make my future vacations in Germany easier&have more contact with the real German people? Is my thought correct?
Hessen Bub
12-09-14, 23:20
Big surprise: Turkey belongs to Europe.It doesn't. 3% are in Europe, 97% in Asia. That's why Turkey should never be part of the EU.
HB.
For Turkish tutes, I love German FKK, I especially love half Turkish half European girls!Funny thing is that I have never had sex with a Turkish girl at an FKK. I've been approached by some, but they were not attractive enough to me to session. Besides, I always wanted "real" Turkish girls in my bed and not "German" ones. The Turkish girls in Dubai looked better than the ones in the FKKs (a lot better) and they were 100% Turks not influenced by Germany. They dressed the most provocatively in the nightclubs, and I found them to be good providers too. The next time I am in FKK Land, I hope to do find at least one Turkish provider to my liking. I call it "tanned Turkish tookus" (ass) hahaha! And all this talk about whether or not Turkey is Europe or Asia. Well, it's a little bit of both. Turkey is a true crossroads nation strategically positioned between two continents. It was the location of both the Eastern Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire. There is a constant tension in Turkey about which way to look. To the east or to the west. I don't care which way Turkey looks so long as Turkish tutes continue to look favorably my way for future sexual liaisons!
$3000 US = 2400 euro so that's 600 euro per day. Let's take off 100 euro average for club entry leaving you with 500 euro per day for girls. Basically that's 5 hours room time per day at 50 euro per half hour clubs. For some guys this is a lot. For others it's average especially visiting a club with a regular you spend a few hours with.
Personally finding it difficult to spend so much these days since I never pay for extras and my multi hour girls like German Sam seem long gone.I would say that from my experience €600 per day (including club entry price) is perhaps slightly above average spend. However that said I would have to say that it is easy to spend that amount of cash if you are in a club for 12+ hours per day. Many mongers do spend many hours in the club and would probably spend cash to at least this level particularly if they are visiting FKK / Sauna clubs on an infrequent basis (less than 10 visits per year). There is a tendency to splurge cash and enjoy oneself if you visit the clubs less often. Guys who visit the clubs frequently (perhaps two or three times a month) tend to be very selective in their hooker selection and consequently spend less per visit.
Funny thing is that I have never had sex with a Turkish girl at an FKK. I've been approached by some, but they were not attractive enough to me to session. Besides, I always wanted "real" Turkish girls in my bed and not "German" ones. The Turkish girls in Dubai looked better than the ones in the FKKs (a lot better) and they were 100% Turks not influenced by Germany. They dressed the most provocatively in the nightclubs, and I found them to be good providers too. The next time I am in FKK Land, I hope to do find at least one Turkish provider to my liking. I call it "tanned Turkish tookus" (ass) hahaha! And all this talk about whether or not Turkey is Europe or Asia. Well, it's a little bit of both. Turkey is a true crossroads nation strategically positioned between two continents. It was the location of both the Eastern Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire. There is a constant tension in Turkey about which way to look. To the east or to the west. I don't care which way Turkey looks so long as Turkish tutes continue to look favorably my way for future sexual liaisons!Yes, indeed, The Cane!
Turkish girls are very pretty. I have met some half-Turkish, half-German girls at Artemis. Alicia comes to mind. She was teasing the guys by rubbing her pussy in the open on the couches trying to lure somebody into the room. I had the perfect view from my vantage point. Unfortunately, her tease was better than her please. Recently, also at Artemis, I met up with a girl named Esra. She is a light skinned Turkish girl (sorry, not dark enough). She loosely reminded me of Sibel Kekilli of Game of Thrones (Shae). (Sorry, too German influenced). I guess you will just have to visit Turkey for the real deal. My biggest regret, and this was due to fatigue, I missed out on trying a girl from a pack of Turkish girls that were working at Oase, before the renovations. It has been a while, but I still remember her sweet personality. She was not getting much action that night, but she kept hounding me when I was trying to sleep. She kept calling out to me and blowing air at me from the top of the staircase down to my lounge chair. That group has been missing at several of my most recent Oase visits. I might just have to visit Turkey myself.
FiddyCent.
I don't understand German at all, and I can't speak German except for few words.
I think it will limit myself to only be able to contact people who speak English in Germany. This is not interesting and make myself very isolated from the real German people.
In my observation, the real German people don't like foreigners who do not speak German.
I think, if I can understand & speak some German at least to a conversation level, maybe it can make my future vacations in Germany easier&have more contact with the real German people? Is my thought correct?Except for really old people, I haven't met a German yet who didn't speak good English. And I have met many a German! So, I don't worry about it so much as they will forever speak English better than I will ever speak Deutsch.
Funny thing is that I have never had sex with a Turkish girl at an FKK. I've been approached by some, but they were not attractive enough to me to session. Besides, I always wanted "real" Turkish girls in my bed and not "German" ones. The Turkish girls in Dubai looked better than the ones in the FKKs (a lot better) and they were 100% Turks not influenced by Germany. They dressed the most provocatively in the nightclubs, and I found them to be good providers too. The next time I am in FKK Land, I hope to do find at least one Turkish provider to my liking. I call it "tanned Turkish tookus" (ass) hahaha! And all this talk about whether or not Turkey is Europe or Asia. Well, it's a little bit of both. Turkey is a true crossroads nation strategically positioned between two continents. It was the location of both the Eastern Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire. There is a constant tension in Turkey about which way to look. To the east or to the west. I don't care which way Turkey looks so long as Turkish tutes continue to look favorably my way for future sexual liaisons!I always have been the fan of half something and half white girls. I find them beautiful.
But yes Turkish girls are hot, I saw many beautiful Turkish girls in Bodrum, but hey even though it is liberal nation, it is not wise to try to approach those girls.
Thanks god we got German FKK that we can have sex with girls from Turkey, Iran, Albania, Moroccan etc. Otherwise it will be hard to make a trip to let say Iran and try to have sex with local Iranian girls!
Viva FKK!
Hi fellas,
I'm flying to Dusseldorf this Friday and since I'm not sure where to post I though I'll try this thread.
So my question is: Which clubs are the best in that area. I definitely take S Bahn to Velbert and go to Acapulco, but which club do you guys suggest most at the Dusseldorf? I heard Dolce vita, magnum and haus pantera are good ones, but hard to pick one. Also, any other suggestions?
Would be nice to visit Cologne also, but I think that's a bit too far away.
I think it will limit myself to only be able to contact people who speak English in Germany.That are nearly all people. In the clubs it's even an advantage to speak English because the most girls do speak better English than German.
In my observation, the real German people don't like foreigners who do not speak German.Remember the football World Cup 2006 in Germany (Sommermaerchen: Die Welt zu Gast bei Freunden. Time to make friends). Nearly all people from all over he world were enthusiastic about the German hospitality, even the English press.
But which club do you guys suggest most at the Dusseldorf? I heard Dolce vita, magnum and haus pantera are good ones, but hard to pick one. Also, any other suggestions?Living Room in Kaarst. It's easy to catch by Bahn see http://vrr.de/en/index.html. Go to Neuss main station and then to Kaarst IKEA (next station). Cross the rails and turn left. At the next side road turn right. Then left, right and you stay in front of the club.
Would be nice to visit Cologne also, but I think that's a bit too far away.It's not too far but for me it's not interesting.
Yes, indeed, The Cane!
Turkish girls are very pretty. I have met some half-Turkish, half-German girls at Artemis. Alicia comes to mind. She was teasing the guys by rubbing her pussy in the open on the couches trying to lure somebody into the room. I had the perfect view from my vantage point. Unfortunately, her tease was better than her please. Recently, also at Artemis, I met up with a girl named Esra. She is a light skinned Turkish girl (sorry, not dark enough). She loosely reminded me of Sibel Kekilli of Game of Thrones (Shae). (Sorry, too German influenced). I guess you will just have to visit Turkey for the real deal. My biggest regret, and this was due to fatigue, I missed out on trying a girl from a pack of Turkish girls that were working at Oase, before the renovations. It has been a while, but I still remember her sweet personality. She was not getting much action that night, but she kept hounding me when I was trying to sleep. She kept calling out to me and blowing air at me from the top of the staircase down to my lounge chair. That group has been missing at several of my most recent Oase visits. I might just have to visit Turkey myself.
FiddyCent.I can offer you some good Turkish options if you come here to Istanbul. Also in Palace there is a few Turks with a very Turkish look. Also Samya has a few since the owners are Turkish but I think best options for Turkish girls is in Artemis because owner again a Turkish.
Regards.
Hessen Bub
12-10-14, 19:05
There's a new very pretty German girl with Turkish heritage at Sharks. Heard that service is good. Didn't fuck her.
HB.
I can offer you some good Turkish options if you come here to Istanbul. Also in Palace there is a few Turks with a very Turkish look. Also Samya has a few since the owners are Turkish but I think best options for Turkish girls is in Artemis because owner again a Turkish.
Regards.Hello Iceberg27.
I might just take you up on your offer. Thank you. I have not been to Istanbul or Ankara yet, but it is on my bucket list. I would agree that the Turkish girls in Artemis were the best. If I ever head over that way, I will be sure to PM you for more information.
FiddyCent.
There's a new very pretty German girl with Turkish heritage at Sharks. Heard that service is good. Didn't fuck her.
HB.Thank you Hessen Bub.
I hope she will still be around when I visit next. I have no fixed plans, as of yet.
FiddyCent.
Before I was always indecisive which to choose but now had visited all three so know what will I find. Now I am again in a decision crisis. I know this issue discussed many times but I just want to share my opinions;.
Frankfurt.
Definitely the best place to be just for FKK. It has Sharks (I think it is the best FKK in Germany. Just my Humble opinion) Oase, World and Palace. And I don't say even Mainhatten.
City is very boring and pessimistic. Very business minded atmosphere. You will never feel like you are in a touristic vacation.
Berlin.
Very nice city. You can always feel that you are in touristic destination and it also is. But only one choice for FKK is aArtemis and it is also in my top three. Definitely better than Oase and Palace. Sharks vs Artemis is discussible.But i had been with most of the girls so it doesnt come attractive to me..Also Nina issue lowering my mood..
Cologne.
It has both pros and cons of Berlin and FRA. Nice atmosphere of the city. Reine is good for sightseeing but you will never have the feeling of Berlin. It is just a quite and calm German city. Good for retired over 60 age tourists. Cologne offers very good FKK choices like Magnum, GT, Samya. Also has some nice strip clubs and very big brothels worht a visit. But as I said before never has the cosmopolit and historical atmosphere of Berlin. Very poor night life.
It looks like I will choose Berlin or maybe I will make a surprise and use my last visa for another country. Forget FKK's.
Regards.
PussyLiccker
12-13-14, 01:41
You fell for a fairytale.
HB.Well I didn't fell for it, therefore I'm asking for your help.
The girl was shocked by the incident and refused to tell which club it happened in, in fear of the management.
She might be a good actress?There is nothing in what is written by NC that would imply he "fell for a fairytale."
Before I was always indecisive which to choose but now had visited all three so know what will I find. Now I am again in a decision crisis. I know this issue discussed many times but I just want to share my opinions.Don't forget the clubs you can reach from the Dusseldorf area:
- Dolce Vita.
- Acapulco.
- Mondial.
- Living Room.
- Planet Happy Garden.
- Oceans.
PussyLiccker
12-13-14, 06:05
It looks like I will choose Berlin or maybe I will make a surprise and use my last visa for another country. Forget FKK's.
Regards.If your doing another Budapest like adventure, looking forward to another great story. LOL. That one was classic.
If your doing another Budapest like adventure, looking forward to another great story. LOL. That one was classic.I love Hungarian girls, but in German FKK.
Hello Iceberg27.
I might just take you up on your offer. Thank you. I have not been to Istanbul or Ankara yet, but it is on my bucket list. I would agree that the Turkish girls in Artemis were the best. If I ever head over that way, I will be sure to PM you for more information.
FiddyCent.Unless you have inside connections (such as what Iceberg is offering) don't go to Turkey expecting a line of Turkish girls. For off the plane tourists, you will encounter Russians and EE girls. Good looking Turkish girls do not work in the open in Turkey. Reasons are self explanatory. Ha ha.
Hessen Bub
12-13-14, 12:50
Frankfurt.
Definitely the best place to be just for FKK. It has Sharks (I think it is the best FKK in Germany. Just my Humble opinion) Oase, World and Palace. And I don't say even Mainhatten.
City is very boring and pessimistic. Very business minded atmosphere. You will never feel like you are in a touristic vacation.
Plenty of museums in Frankfurt. Or rent a car. Visit the area. Rheingau. Wiesbaden. Eltville. Ruedesheim. Koenigstein. Taunus. Heidelberg. Worms. Speyer.
HB.
Solo Traveler
12-14-14, 01:34
Last time, I met & knew some German customers & German girls in Sharks. It is interesting that all of them have some kind of immigration background.
Some of them are second generation immigrants. Both their parents moved to Germany from another country.
Some of them are half German, and half another ethnicity, which is a result of international marriage in Germany.
Are people of immigration background or people of mixed ethnicity fully accepted by the German society?
How to define 'German'?
I have the same question for 'Russian', because the land of Russia is so huge that the Russian people may vary from Scandinavian-looking (in the Western part of Russia) to almost East Asian-looking (in the Eastern part of Russia).
YamaYama0519
12-14-14, 09:27
Yamayama's series of reports seem to have initiated a lot of discussion about the WG's "orgasm or not to orgasm". Especially during DATY....I read the reports of monger-brother YY with a big chunk of skepticism and amusement. This until I read about his experiences with one girl that I know very well and have seen orgasm a number of times. My and YY's experiences of that girl are 1:1 identical. I hereby lift my non-existent hat for Mr Yamayama; well done. If in addition to your success in DATY, the success you describe during penetration is true; then I'm truly jealous.PHWhy do we go to brothels? Some want to have a simple pop and others go there to look for GFE. I do not pop so often. I reviewed my reports and found that in the last 9-day FKK journey I had 54 sessions but only 2 pops. What else therefore can I do except that I have girls cum? I love to see a smile on their face after girls reach a climax. Out of 54 sessions I was able to see the smile for 33 sessions, but I took the same girl to a room more than once. The net number of girls I went to the room with is 36. Out of 36, I was able to see the smile of relief of only 18 girls, meaning I lost a half of chance. What a pity! LOL.
Why do we go to brothels? Some want to have a simple pop and others go there to look for GFE. I do not pop so often. I reviewed my reports and found that in the last 9-day FKK journey I had 54 sessions but only 2 pops. What else therefore can I do except that I have girls cum? I love to see a smile on their face after girls reach a climax. Out of 54 sessions I was able to see the smile for 33 sessions, but I took the same girl to a room more than once. The net number of girls I went to the room with is 36. Out of 36, I was able to see the smile of relief of only 18 girls, meaning I lost a half of chance. What a pity! LOL.I have to admit that my motives for giving good DATY are more selfish. Don't get me wrong; the angel-like expression of most the girls after the orgasm is priceless and worth a lot of effort on its own.
The first reason why I do DATY with the aim to have the girl come is the ego-trip; because I can, I can make her want to finish, with my help, with me. The moment when, for me a new girl, realizes that I know how to lick and the tongue lashing will end in her coming is one of the finest moments for me in mongering.
The second reason is the service level the girls normally provide after they orgasmed; even the most hard-boiled ones become very service oriented, caring a lot for my well-being in the room. At occasions I even look for girls with a discussable "service-record" to see if I can pull it off to turn them into real pussy-cats since some of these hard girls seem to have a lot of GFE "on-stock" just waiting for the right moment and circumstances to emerge.
Thirdly, the feeling of fucking a pussy after orgasm, normally without gel. Often simply a divine sensation compared to the gel lubricated non-excited one. Even with the girls that insist of always using gel, a wet-and-ready vagina is very preferable.
When it comes to the statistics of how often the girls finish, our games are very different, I think. I tend to go to a few clubs that I know, typically ending-up doing 2 or 3 girls I know from earlier and one new one. Going with girls I know of course leads to a higher success rate since the first room is the most difficult one; once a girl comes in DATY the next time will be much easier. This has most probably to do with the fact that a big part of the female orgasm is mental, not physical, and the girls remember very well what happened earlier with a guy and turn themselves on without any effort from the man.
Finally, I thought I was difficult with my long time average of popping in maybe 40-50% of the rooms (the day I described at O was exceptional, 3 out of 4 pop-rate), but apparently I'm not; 2 of 54! Expensive pops!
PH
I think your number of 5% may be a good one. I recall Lena of Slovakia, a fairly honest no nonsense girl, once telling me that she did not orgasm that often in a session typically, but once was having an exceptional day of 2 or 3 different customer getting her off (before my session). May have been a hormone overdrive day, or return after a break (I can't remember). Could not think of a reason or motive she would make this up on the day it happened. She just seemed more horny than usual.For many girls 5% seems to be a big proportion. The popular girls should then finish more often than every second day in average. But OK, if it is 2% or 5% does not matter, it is small anyway. 3 times (out of hundreds) I have heard from a girl that "I have already finished today, so finishing again might be difficult", indicating that orgasms are rare and far apart for the typical FKK WG: s.
We cannot know what happened in YY experiences other than what he writes. Its impossible to 2nd guess just how talented he is, and how good girls are at faking. Its not worth debating. We just have to allow guys to write what was their experience. I don't feel a strong need to try know some guys experience more than him. I wasn't there in that experience.As said in my original post, the description YY gives of one girl I know was dead on, exactly similar to mine and BTW not purely positive. This girl is also a no-nonsense girl, for me to even think she would fake anything is just out of the question. But enough said about this.
Some girls do things very consistently. Others are very inconsistent. High consistency can be a source for disbelief at times. Your mileage should vary, somewhat. Girls cannot have best chemistry with every single customer. However there is no ban on a girl enjoying her work on occasions, should she happen to like the customer, or succumb to superior technique. Some fairly honest girls admit they like good sex (but not all the time).I believed in the need for chemistry up till a few years ago, not any more, not with WG: s. Many girls give in to good behaviour and especially to good technique. In my opinion the difficult part is the turning-on part, the rest is elementary once you know what you are doing and know how to read a woman. To turn a girl on, chemistry is one possibility, but by no means the only or even the easiest one. I have seen many girls make a huge effort to come just because of technique. Many of these girls did not even like me! And still ah, crunch, crunch, crunch.
PH
Don't forget the clubs you can reach from the Dusseldorf area:
- Dolce Vita.
- Acapulco.
- Mondial.
- Living Room.
- Planet Happy Garden.
- Oceans.Cane,
I think these options can be interesting for a regular visitor like HB or Rocketboy who is also resident in Germany but for me I don't think it will be logical to prefer them over the popular ones. So you think I should try them instead of for example a second Oase or a second Palace or a first time World? For your information I find nothing interesting in Mainhatten. It is a small FKK and I get bored there a lot.
If your doing another Budapest like adventure, looking forward to another great story. LOL. That one was classic.Thanks Licker. It looks like I have eaten up all Europe cities but I am sure there is a city which will make me so happy that I didn't visit yet or deserve a second visit. Warsaw or a Second Kiev or. Barcelona. Any ideas? Or maybe somewhere in deep Russia.
Unless you have inside connections (such as what Iceberg is offering) don't go to Turkey expecting a line of Turkish girls. For off the plane tourists, you will encounter Russians and EE girls. Good looking Turkish girls do not work in the open in Turkey. Reasons are self explanatory. Ha ha.I can easily arrrange some of Ela girls which are quite popular recently in Turkey. Around 200 Euro for 2 hours. A bit expensive but very good quality of service and they can speak english. Check out the pictures.
Plenty of museums in Frankfurt. Or rent a car. Visit the area. Rheingau. Wiesbaden. Eltville. Ruedesheim. Koenigstein. Taunus. Heidelberg. Worms. Speyer.
HB.HB,
That is what I am talking about Germany. Please don't misunderstand I very like German people and Germany and I even consider to find a job and to work there but for a touristic destination; not for me. I am not being happy in museums. I am up for a jungle visit in Thailand or a Safari in Kenya. And also an active night life is my priorities in a vacation.
Regards.
Cane,
I think these options can be interesting for a regular visitor like HB or Rocketboy who is also resident in Germany but for me I don't think it will be logical to prefer them over the popular ones. So you think I should try them instead of for example a second Oase or a second Palace or a first time World? For your information I find nothing interesting in Mainhatten. It is a small FKK and I get bored there a lot.Those are some good looking pictures man. I like the one with the pouty lips. Perfect for sucking my boner! Ever since I had such good sex with the Turkish girls in Dubai, I have lusted for more. If I ever do make it to Istanbul (have thought seriously about it before), I hope you will help a brother monger out. I know I annoyed you (at best) when I described how the pretty Turkish girl sounded when I munched out her clit in my hotel room in Dubai. I apologize. I didn't mean anything bad by it.
I understand what you mean by Mainhatten. I too have often been bored there. But, if I am in Frankfurt I absolutely must check it out at least once because you just never know what jewel you may find there. Every now and then, I still fantasize about a red headed Bulgarian girl I fucked there. I would say that if you have a limited amount of time, then most definitely hit the places that you know and love, and you will be assured of being happy. But, if you have a bit more time on your hands, then doing a little new discovery can be fun and exciting too. The next time I am in Germany, Frankfurt and Berlin are a must. But, I want to try something new too. I'm struggling with whether the new should be Dusseldorf, Hamburg, or Munich.
By the way, you absolutely crack me up when you describe blonde girls as being as white as cheese! LOL! When I was at Globe in Zurich, I enjoyed anal sex with a blonde white girl from Sweden going by "Amanda". I looked at her and thought, "Oh my god! It's like Iceberg says. She's as white as feta cheese!" Hahahaha!
PussyLiccker
12-14-14, 23:20
I think these options can be interesting for a regular visitor like HB or Rocketboy who is also resident in Germany but for me I don't think it will be logical to prefer them over the popular ones. So you think I should try them instead of for example a second Oase or a second Palace or a first time World? For your information I find nothing interesting in Mainhatten. It is a small FKK and I get bored there a lot.
Thanks Licker. It looks like I have eaten up all Europe cities but I am sure there is a city which will make me so happy that I didn't visit yet or deserve a second visit. Warsaw or a Second Kiev or. Barcelona. Any ideas? Or maybe somewhere in deep Russia.
I can easily arrrange some of Ela girls which are quite popular recently in Turkey. Around 200 Euro for 2 hours. A bit expensive but very good quality of service and they can speak english. Check out the pictures.
I'm not a resident, but I've taken frequent trips to Germany and been to all the clubs TC has listed. My trips started out as multiple days in Hessen. And then I started to explore a bit, checking out the scenes in other cities like Berlin, Hamburg, and Stuttgart. My favorite newbie club was Oase (used to do multiple days there), and don't repeat girls all that much and got bored of the Oase LU, and was looking for German girls for more variety in looks, and started exploring the NRW clubs like GT and others. Now it's to the point I do multiple club visits on one day to increase my chances of running into a gem. I've ran into lots of fantastic girls at the NRW, so I kept making my trips there. Now it's both Hessen and NRW since GT and other NRW does not have that great of a LU anymore. Typically I only find small percentage of girls even in big club I find interest in going with, so I check out many club. I'm always looking for girls I haven't seen before that would be the find of the trip. One or two visits to Hessen is enough for me as I usually don't find too many girls there to my liking. Doesn't have to be big club with a huge LU to find a top girl or two on a visit.
I don't have recommendations to what city to visit for you as I haven't explored other scenes in Europe. I'm afraid of my limited trip time be wasted in searching for girls in Europe with FKK being too convenient. Polish and Russian girls can be really hot, so maybe there? I've heard Russia is difficult without the language ability.
I can see why she is popular, I like the body on Ela, just the right kind of curves. A Turkish girl Cheyanne at GT has a nice body also. I took a liking to Turkish Jansu at ACA who was a great session.
Today I watched a documentary on Al Jazeera about sex trafficking in Europe. The program noted that a Turk named Saban Baran and his brother had been convicted of sex trafficking in The Netherlands (Baran had already fled back to Turkey & I don't know what happened to his brother). My understanding is that Baran was born in Turkey and speaks no Dutch. He also has deep ties to Germany and does speak German.
I thought what you guys might find really interesting is this. The program mentioned some of Baran's many crimes (you can read and see more on the internet), and one of those was that Baran liked to "brand" his "property" with tattoos indicating his ownership. And then the program showed a photo of a girl sporting the infamous "Abdul" tattoo that many of us have seen in the German FKKs!
Ah, so it seems that finally we may have a solid answer here regarding who "Abdul" is! I'm thinking that "Abdul" refers to Baran and the criminal prostitution pimping syndicate that he led in western Europe. I tried to see if the 30 minute program was available online, but I don't think it's available yet. At least not here in the United States. If and when it does becomes available, I will post it here. In the meantime, here's some links with a little background information (I decided not to post a pic of the brutal beating Baran's gang administered to one of his girls):
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2009/09/fury_over_human_trafficker_esc.php/
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/02/escaped_human_trafficker_arres.php/
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/06/dutch_prison_escapee_given_bai.php/
I posted this link in the Spain section, but thought that some of you here might want to see this story too as it's related to the subject:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/24/world/europe/spain-prostitution-tattoo/
These stories expose the dirty underbelly of the "industry". Do a simple Google search on Saban Baran's name, and you can see what he looks like.
I can easily arrrange some of Ela girls which are quite popular recently in Turkey. Around 200 Euro for 2 hours. A bit expensive but very good quality of service and they can speak english. Check out the pictures.
I don't know when I will be able to make it down to Istanbul, but I am very impressed with the photos you've posted. Do those girls all have natural breasts? Do these girls advertise? Or do you have to get a referral? The Turkish guys that I have met at FKK clubs have always said the WGs in their country are Russian.
From an optics standpoint, two of the top girls that I sessioned with this year are Turkish. They were both working at GT, but are infrequent (Dina / Dilara and Esra). They are never written about on the forums because facially they do not resemble Hollywood / Western european actresses. But faces are of secondary importance. I like thin girls with big natural tits. And both of those girls had breasts that were disproportionately big for their bodies. Those two girls are more for fetishists like me.
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