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TankTank123
08-07-15, 07:49
Let me describe myself. I'm under 80 yrs old. Usually wears a robe in the club (but not in the room when I'm with a girl). Usually white one, but depends on the club. My chest to belly ratio is .785. I'm the guy that is either walking or sitting down in the club.Are you trying to impersonate me?
Faceless78
08-07-15, 08:19
Let me describe myself. I'm under 80 yrs old. Usually wears a robe in the club (but not in the room when I'm with a girl). Usually white one, but depends on the club. My chest to belly ratio is .785. I'm the guy that is either walking or sitting down in the club. according to your description, we might be long lost twin brothers!
Nille Copenhagen
08-13-15, 15:12
I don't know what happened, but I with a girl at Samya for 5 hours in a rows (fucking with short drinking breaks), this is kind of a personal record at a FKK club.
I normally take 2-3 hours session if the girls are good, but this time we took 5 hours totally unplanned, the time ran quite fast, we did many positions on the bed, outside the bed and had a great time.
Now I'm thinking back at the session with a great smile, thinking of her and the time we spend together, wow that was nice I still can't believe it was 5 hours! .
She couldn't believe it herself, time just fly by. I will probably repeat again if I see her before her I went with another girl for 2 hours, what is happening to me?
She called me sex machine and smiled at me all night LOL.
I don't know what happened, but I with a girl at Samya for 5 hours in a rows (fucking with short drinking breaks), this is kind of a personal record at a FKK club.
I normally take 2-3 hours session if the girls are good, but this time we took 5 hours totally unplanned, the time ran quite fast, we did many positions on the bed, outside the bed and had a great time.
Now I'm thinking back at the session with a great smile, thinking of her and the time we spend together, wow that was nice I still can't believe it was 5 hours! .
She couldn't believe it herself, time just fly by. I will probably repeat again if I see her before her I went with another girl for 2 hours, what is happening to me?
She called me sex machine and smiled at me all night LOL.A sex machine you are being able to fuck for so long. May the fuck be with you Danish Master Nille the great Copenhagen, LOL.
This padawan pays his respect.
Nille Copenhagen
08-13-15, 21:44
A sex machine you are being able to fuck for so long. May the fuck be with you Danish Master Nille the great Copenhagen, LOL.
This padawan pays his respect.I'm not lying, I have witnesses.
The security guy was checking our room to see if everything was OK and I didn't killed her, later her friends asked where she was and gave me some smiles. I can fuck if I'm in the mood, I'm used to 5-10 hours group sex, so I got the stamina.
May the force be with you!
Nille. My record is seven hours. But I will admit that the breaks for drinks and chat were much longer than yours, so I don't think I can challenge you. After four hours the thekefrau came to check what was happening, as the club doesn't ever see sessions over two hours.
The session only ended because I couldn't face another round which she wanted to start. I made the excuse I had run out of money. I was exhausted (the previous days I had sessions of four and five hours with her).When I got home someone commented that I looked like I had had a tiring trip. Little did they know
The other girls in the club treat me differently in a positive way to the other guests. I do occasionally go with them, but mainly I am part of the furniture, and they approve of my spending.
I'm not lying, I have witnesses.
May the force be with you!I never doubted you Danish Master, LOL.
Nille. My record is seven hours.You a sex machine too? Damn makes me feel like 1 min man, LOL. Maybe I should focus on bc a DATY master instead, haha.
My record is seven hours. But I will admit that the breaks for drinks and chat were much longer than yours, so I don't think I can challenge you. After four hours the thekefrau came to check what was happening, as the club doesn't ever see sessions over two hours.My record is also 7 hours (from many years ago) with a cute blond, but we were pretty much fucking and sucking the whole time! No lie! When I see the Viagra commercials on TV and they talk about how having an erection for more than 4 hours can cause bodily harm, I always chuckle as I recall my "personal best" and wonder what lasting damage, if any, I may have caused myself LOL! And I remember that the girl's pussy lips were really swollen once we were finally done! Oh, and the girl was not a tute, so there was no damage to my wallet LOL! I've told people this story before of how I had marathon sex for 7 straight hours, and they don't believe me, but it's the truth so help me God! Now, we weren't fucking hard the whole time, but we were engaged in some form of sex for 7 straight hours, and I kept a boner the whole time! Oh the indiscretions of youth! She was so turned on that she let me fuck her in the ass even though she said before we got started that she had never done that because she thought it would hurt hahaha!
Nille Copenhagen
08-14-15, 12:13
Nille. My record is seven hours. But I will admit that the breaks for drinks and chat were much longer than yours, so I don't think I can challenge you. After four hours the thekefrau came to check what was happening, as the club doesn't ever see sessions over two hours.
The session only ended because I couldn't face another round which she wanted to start. I made the excuse I had run out of money. I was exhausted (the previous days I had sessions of four and five hours with her).When I got home someone commented that I looked like I had had a tiring trip. Little did they know
The other girls in the club treat me differently in a positive way to the other guests. I do occasionally go with them, but mainly I am part of the furniture, and they approve of my spending.Optimist 7 hours is great! I was considering a 1-2 hours repeat with her after the 5 hours session, but she was booked.
All my favourite girls know I spend a good time in the rooms and I like sex a lot. So if they don't like to fuck for long they will never be my favourites. LOL.
This time it was with a new girl and we just clicked in a good way, I'm still surprise like she was as well, that the time flew by so fast and 5 hours felt like 1-2 hours.
Maybe I'm getting jaded lately, I now prefer long sessions with less girls, than take many short sessions with many girls, before I took 5-6 girls during the day, now I'm down to 3-4 with prolong session.
You a sex machine too? .No way. I usually have to stop after a few minutes for R and R. What really kills me is when the girl doesn't want to stop and is working towards orgasm: then out of politeness I force myself to keep going ☺.
No way. I usually have to stop after a few minutes for R and R. What really kills me is when the girl doesn't want to stop and is working towards orgasm: then out of politeness I force myself to keep going ☺.She tries to finish you off or perhaps you making her feel rly good?
Yeah you def. A nice guy alrite trying to make the girl feel good, LOL.
How about basic descriptions of what some of the best contributors here look like?
Banana Boi.
Hessen Bub.
Sirioja.
PussyLiccker.
McAdonis.
Vito Corleone.
Dufey.
Craiova.
Syzygies.
Nille Copenhagen.
Will help new guys say "Hello" at the club and buy a beer or a 30 minutes session for these contributors great reports in the FKK forums.
CheersNo beer for me, I prefer milk or cyprine from elegant pretty good body care girls, but You can ask any girl at World, Sharks and most at Oase for the french Quasimodo who is looking for his new Esmeralda to love him.
Enjoy your FKK time.
Last Saturday, at World, a man came to me, he read me because he knew so much about me, but didn't want to say me who he is, he was friendly even I didn't understand his advice to be more careful, I feel very safe in Germany among pimps at 5 am last Saturday night or hells or drunk Russians, stay in jacuzzi drinking free beers and don t touch my favs, FKK are play fields.
Nille. Me also, I started years ago and my norm was up to 6 or 7 girls a day. Now it's more like one girl for 6 hours. I don't think you're jaded, it's just that each time you really click with a girl your standards as to what is a good session raise. Or at least that's in my case. When it really works then a whole day can just fly by. I remember a weekend I spent with one worker: everything went wrong (I got lost, places were closed, the weather turned bad and so on), yet we both had a perfect time.
Exodus. She knows I can't finish more than twice in a few hours so she's not trying to finish me, but she on the other hand can manage many more times to orgas m. And she doesn't let me lay back for her to do the work. Maybe it saves her having to talk to me lol.
The Cane. Congratulations. Long time since I managed anything like that. My working parts were aching for a couple of days but definitely no longterm damage.Apart from my brain.
Nille. Me also, I started years ago and my norm was up to 6 or 7 girls a day.
Exodus. She knows I can't finish more than twice in a few hours so she's not trying to finish me, but she on the other hand can manage many more times to orgas m. And she doesn't let me lay back for her to do the work. Maybe it saves her having to talk to me lol.I'm still at the early stages or maybe bc I didn't manage to try all the girls at a club that meet my specs. After I will prolly stick to a few favs that I click with for a longer period. Now I'm a 30 min and max 60 min man, LOL.
Its nice to talk a little in the room but sometimes too much and I don't want to be rude.
I'm still at the early stages or maybe bc I didn't manage to try all the girls at a club that meet my specs. After I will prolly stick to a few favs that I click with for a longer period. Now I'm a 30 min and max 60 min man, LOL.
Its nice to talk a little in the room but sometimes too much and I don't want to be rude.I prefer to take a real fav 3 times 1 hour in a night with 2 or 3 hours resting between, rather than 3 hours, I m not superman but I will be interested to meet him and I m not so interested to chat in room, too much lies, not so interesting conversation after few minutes, only a very very few girls in FKK are quite clever.
Banana Boi
08-14-15, 22:13
You guys are crazy. Not sure how you can stay cooped up in a room for 5+ hours. I need fresh air, drinks, food, washroom breaks, a refresher shower, so I usually limit my time with girls to 2-3 hours at a time. Not saying I haven't done 5+ hours with 1 girl in a day but that would take place over a 10+ hour day.
Nille Copenhagen
08-14-15, 22:25
Nille. Me also, I started years ago and my norm was up to 6 or 7 girls a day. Now it's more like one girl for 6 hours. I don't think you're jaded, it's just that each time you really click with a girl your standards as to what is a good session raise. Or at least that's in my case. When it really works then a whole day can just fly by. I remember a weekend I spent with one worker: everything went wrong (I got lost, places were closed, the weather turned bad and so on), yet we both had a perfect time.
Exodus. She knows I can't finish more than twice in a few hours so she's not trying to finish me, but she on the other hand can manage many more times to orgas m. And she doesn't let me lay back for her to do the work. Maybe it saves her having to talk to me lol.
The Cane. Congratulations. Long time since I managed anything like that. My working parts were aching for a couple of days but definitely no longterm damage.Apart from my brain.I say to my self and my FKK-buddies, this time I'm going to fuck many girls and try many new girls as possible, but it lately it's ended up with less girls for longer sessions, well still om a short FKK-trip of 3-4 days I still manage to sample 12-14 girls.
Something I think now I've found a "gem" I'll like to spend more time with her. Instead of take new girls and risk a poor session, better to invest more time and money on a "gem" But before you know she is gem, you need to take the risk / chance that is the fun part of mongering, hehe.
Nille Copenhagen
08-14-15, 22:30
How about basic descriptions of what some of the best contributors here look like?
Banana Boi.
Hessen Bub.
Sirioja.
PussyLiccker.
McAdonis.
Vito Corleone.
Dufey.
Craiova.
Syzygies.
Nille Copenhagen.
Will help new guys say "Hello" at the club and buy a beer or a 30 minutes session for these contributors great reports in the FKK forums.
CheersHeyyyyyyPaul,
I'm honored to be on your list, just PM me if you want to chat in the clubs. I don't want to describe myself her while the whole world is reading, the clubs and the girls are reading this forum too.
The Cane. Congratulations. Long time since I managed anything like that. My working parts were aching for a couple of days but definitely no long-term damage. Apart from my brain.I was young, dumb, and full of cum! And apparently so was she LOL! Like I said, I have told a few people this before, but they didn't believe me. I never would have brought it up here except that my record was also lucky number 7! The thing is, you have to believe that at least a few of us guys here are total sex fiends with high sex drives. I mean, we go out of our way to compensate women (a lot of them) for sex. I've fucked more different women in 2 weeks than millions and millions of men will ever fuck in a whole year. I've fucked more attractive girls in the ass over a 10 day period than most men will ever butt fuck over the course of their entire lifetimes! Plenty of us here can truthfully say things like that. And be proud of it too hahaha! Now these days, I couldn't go that long if my life depended on it LOL! And here's the backstory. After my 7 hour tryst with the cute blonde, she was smitten man. She wanted to see me again. She wanted to get together again and fuck! Well, I never saw her again. Not even once! You see, even back then when I wasn't a monger and couldn't even have told you what "mongering" was, I still knew enough to know to hit it and quit it! LOLOLOL! Just a monger in the making hehehe!
Faceless78
08-15-15, 01:31
I like to take one girl for 6 hours, more than 6 girls a day, as optimist mentioned. In fact I've taken more than one dozen six or plus sessions this year, longest time was 10 hours. Unfortunately, I can't fuck like machine as some of you here do, usually 1\3 of total time is about sex, other we are just talking or snapping smoking eating, or simply sitting in the club watching other people.
I wish I could do sex marathon yet I'm not able to stay boned for hours. I've tried with pills and it did let me feel that I can fuck endlessly but it also took away a large part of the pleasure. It makes sex into a pure sport. Perhaps I'm just not the chosen one: the.
HeyyyyyyPaul,
I'm honored to be on your list, just PM me if you want to chat in the clubs. I don't want to describe myself her while the whole world is reading, the clubs and the girls are reading this forum too.Are You afraid Sylvana does' t want to go again with you? Or Valentina? Or clubs to refuse you entry? So better to stay a ghost, ghosts can write they are superman, nobody know, when I write, some girls speak to me about my writings and I'm able to explain them why I write this.
Faceless, don't despair. The recent comments by myself and others also often point out that we no longer have the machine power we had when we started LOL. Spending 66% of the time chatting etc is quite normal in longer sessions.
Nille Copenhagen
08-15-15, 09:24
I like to take one girl for 6 hours, more than 6 girls a day, as optimist mentioned. In fact I've taken more than one dozen six or plus sessions this year, longest time was 10 hours. Unfortunately, I can't fuck like machine as some of you here do, usually 1\3 of total time is about sex, other we are just talking or snapping smoking eating, or simply sitting in the club watching other people.
I wish I could do sex marathon yet I'm not able to stay boned for hours. I've tried with pills and it did let me feel that I can fuck endlessly but it also took away a large part of the pleasure. It makes sex into a pure sport. Perhaps I'm just not the chosen one: the.Each man each lust, if you enjoy the girls companies for 5-6-10 hours is great for both of you, you pay for her time and can talk, play card, sing for her, massage her and so on, nothing wrong with that. We have our own ways to enjoy the sessions.
For me I like to fuck and I like sex, I'm a fucker and a lover hehe. I like to do crazy fun stuff like dancing naked on the bed with the girls, we play music either from her phone or from my phone. I like fuck is various positions inside and outside the bed, sometimes sticking our heads and body outside the windows, hehe.
A great position I enjoy a lot is, she is standing with her legs spreading 60 degree in high heals, facing the mirror, with her hands against the mirror, I'm taking her standing doggie from behind in this position, I can see both her legs in high heals.
Her ass and her hair, holding her breasts and see her full body in the mirror while fucking, wow what a view (POV). Big smiley!
Faceless78
08-15-15, 17:47
Faceless, don't despair. The recent comments by myself and others also often point out that we no longer have the machine power we had when we started LOL. Spending 66% of the time chatting etc is quite normal in longer sessions.Alright, now we stand by the same side, we should found our "weak-men united" against those Donkey monsters: the.
And I'm not despaired man, state out a fact doesn't hurt me, I'm happy with what I've got and try to enjoy the max with it.
Each man each lust, if you enjoy the girls companies for 5-6-10 hours is great for both of you, you pay for her time and can talk, play card, sing for her, massage her and so on, nothing wrong with that. We have our own ways to enjoy the sessions.
For me I like to fuck and I like sex, I'm a fucker and a lover hehe. I like to do crazy fun stuff like dancing naked on the bed with the girls, we play music either from her phone or from my phone. I like fuck is various positions inside and outside the bed, sometimes sticking our heads and body outside the windows, hehe.
A great position I enjoy a lot is, she is standing with her legs spreading 60 degree in high heals, facing the mirror, with her hands against the mirror, I'm taking her standing doggie from behind in this position, I can see both her legs in high heals.
Her ass and her hair, holding her breasts and see her full body in the mirror while fucking, wow what a view (POV). Big smiley!Sure I enjoy a lot with my way, session could be fun even without sex. The sex position you shared with us is also one of my fav, especially with slim girls, holding her tits or waist & looking at her face in the mirror while fucking her hard is a great fun for me LOL I like a lot fucking from behind that why I've high standard with girls' ass leg and waist, but tits are in generally ok for me.
And yes, Nille Copenhagen, you are a real fucker.
Jimmy Boy 99
08-17-15, 03:57
Each man each lust, if you enjoy the girls companies for 5-6-10 hours is great for both of you, you pay for her time and can talk, play card, sing for her, massage her and so on, nothing wrong with that. We have our own ways to enjoy the sessions.While I respect that people have the right to spend their money however they want, I am still amazed that some people do 5-6 hour (or longer) sessions. I have never found a girl in a club that I would want to pay to spend that much time with. Even if I could fuck continuously for that long (as apparently some posters here can), I would get bored fucking the same girl after a couple of hours. I prefer to have shorter (although still great) sessions with more girls than one great long session with one girl. What astonishes me, though, is that most guys in these marathon sessions apparently don't actually have sex during the whole time but chat, smoke, eat, drink, sit on the couch, etc. For the majority of the time. I thought the point of these clubs is to pay a girl to let you have sex with her, not talk to her. While I have, do, and will continue to pay for sex, I have never, don't, and will never pay for a girl to talk with me and just hang around with me. If they want to do this, I am happy to oblige, but off the clock, as then it will be because they want to do so, not because they are being paid to pretend to be interested in me. These girls, although they may offer a GFE during the session, are not our girlfriends and we should not delude ourselves into thinking they are (just ask a girl to spend some free time with you with no expectation of going to a room with her to see what you are to her).
I met a guy at a club who only went with one girl for 5-6 hours and then did no one else the rest of the time. After we had seen each other a couple of times at the club and become friendly, I asked him why he did what he did. He said that she was the only girl he liked at the club. I told him, fine, but why spend 5-6 hours at once, since he can't fuck the whole time, and not do 3 two-hour sessions, with breaks in-between, so both of them can rest, eat, etc. , perhaps find someone else to fuck, as well as give her a break from pretending to be interested in him, since, if we were to ask the girls, I think they would probably say the hardest part of the job for them is feigning that they like us and want to be with us. He eventually took my advice.
Jimmyboy99,
So you get bored with girls easily. Others don't. LOL Some guys want a girl all to themselves no sharing. Makes them feel like a King maybe.
Good easy money for the girl but she has to put up with the boredom.
Once had a regular girl at Palace who asked me not to attend on Saturdays because she had a Customer wanted to book her all day Saturday every Saturday for sex maybe only one time. She offered to meet me regularly outside the club instead. Saved me money and she still made heaps from her all day booking. She would still be horny for a good long DATY.
2 hours is my longest booking which was not originally intended to be 2 hours, just got carried away. Some girls are very entertaining. It's hard to imagine going longer. Guys with great stamina may be able to just keep getting more pops, I don't know. I am not so sensitive.
When I've started with my new pay sex hobby at FKK clubs 90% of my sessions were 30 minutes the rest 1 hour sessions. And on an average club day at this time I had around four rooms with three diffrent girls. Now ten years later around 70 per cent of the money I spend per year for club girls are with few favs of me. The rest are new bookings always in the hope to find new favs. With my favs I have a lot long time sessions, sometimes up to five hours before leaving the room. Or sometimes two or three sessions with the same girl at one day each session usually between 1 1/2 and 3 hours. Sometimes I book a girl in club the whole day and have a special price deal with this fav. Considering I really like anal and CIM or COF three separate sessions with this girl can easly add up to 1000 Euro on one day. And in this price range my favs agree for an 12 hour deal, most of the girls accept less. Also for a change I sometimes book one of my club favs for a 12 hours escort day in a Frankfurt hotel.
Room time with new bookings between 10 minutes in this case girl gets 50 euro and a famous "goodbye" LOL and 2 1/2 hours.
Some guys want a girl all to themselves no sharing. Makes them feel like a King maybe.
Good easy money for the girl but she has to put up with the boredom.
Usual club gossip from guys never make so long time sessions (of course this is also a question about money LOL) and from club girls never have the quality to get clients doing this.
LOL also about boredom. Again club gossip. Jealousy and envy you'll find on no place in world more than in FKK clubs. Top class girls with the right client never ever get bored.
Usual club gossip from guys never make so long time sessions (of course this is also a question about money LOL) and from club girls never have the quality to get clients doing this.
LOL also about boredom. Again club gossip. Jealousy and envy you'll find on no place in world more than in FKK clubs. Top class girls with the right client never ever get bored.If true I suppose the guy doesn't want to share while he is at the club otherwise one way or the other he will have to unless he takes her off the market.
Jealousy and envy? LOL.
Ok some guys gets approached more than others for several reasons.
Yes some girls are highly addictive and a master Jedi once told me not to fall in luv with a girl in the club.
If true I suppose the guy doesn't want to share while he is at the club otherwise one way or the other he will have to unless he takes her off the market.
Yes some girls are highly addictive and a master Jedi once told me not to fall in luv with a girl in the club.Mabey these guys just have fun in room. LOL Has nothing to do with "not sharing".
Yep your master jedi gave you a wise advice. This should be seen as a business deal and usually its a win-win situation.
Mabey these guys just have fun in room. LOL Has nothing to do with "not sharing".
Yep your master jedi gave you a wise advice. This should be seen as a business deal and usually its a win-win situation.Guess you are rite either its 5 HR nonstop action or play cards LOL its their money. And I suppose most girls are happy about it I. E. No need to hunt or wait for takers.
Even though its a business transaction sometimes its a bit hard to keep all the emotion in check bc it just feels so rite. Guess I still have a long way to go, LOL.
Nille Copenhagen
08-17-15, 11:08
While I respect that people have the right to spend their money however they want, I am still amazed that some people do 5-6 hour (or longer) sessions.Well I usually do 2 hours sessions, then break and we stop the clock and resume later. Like some weeks ago at Oase, I meet a nice girl, we hung out by the pool.
Then we went the kino for some BJ, then room time for 2 hours, dinner break where we had dinner together. Here the taximeter stopped, then some relaxing after dinner, then kino again, then to the room again.
In total she spend more time with me than I paid her, we had good time, so win-win for both of us.
My rule is simple: I fall in love with every girls I fucked, but when I leave the clubs I come back to my senses hehe, with some girls we are in touch privately.
What is happening to the opening of new big FKK near Berlin in Potsdam?
Nille Copenhagen
08-17-15, 11:20
If true I suppose the guy doesn't want to share while he is at the club otherwise one way or the other he will have to unless he takes her off the market.
Jealousy and envy? LOL.
Ok some guys gets approached more than others for several reasons.
Yes some girls are highly addictive and a master Jedi once told me not to fall in luv with a girl in the club.It's stupid to be jealous in the world of pay for fun, she might make you fell like you are the one and only, but she can't make business on 1 guess alone.
The top girls knows who to make you feel special and you come back for more. And she might have many regulars, If you are not sharing or can't handle you don't own the girls.
Then you are in the wrong game. LOL.
At syzygies.
Have you ever done a Prague Privat? There are very less I should rare czech girls in the German FKK scene right? If I am not mistaken. And they say czech girls are the most beautiful breed in entire europe! So what do you reccomend always a German FKK or even Prague Privat also has something to offer in its own way?
Though I have posted this question for syzygies anybody else can also answer it. Feel free!!
Nille Copenhagen
08-17-15, 11:45
At syzygies.
Have you ever done a Prague Privat? There are very less I should rare czech girls in the German FKK scene right? If I am not mistaken. And they say czech girls are the most beautiful breed in entire europe! So what do you reccomend always a German FKK or even Prague Privat also has something to offer in its own way?
Though I have posted this question for syzygies anybody else can also answer it. Feel free!!The most beautiful girls in Europe are Swedish.
PussyLiccker
08-17-15, 13:54
Mabey these guys just have fun in room. LOL Has nothing to do with "not sharing".
Yep your master jedi gave you a wise advice. This should be seen as a business deal and usually its a win-win situation.You can share. Gather up all the guys and bring some cards. LOL. Make it a poker night.
You can share. Gather up all the guys and bring some cards. LOL. Make it a poker night.And the girls are the chips? LOL.
"I bet 30 min incl CIM" that could be fun haha.
Nille Copenhagen
08-17-15, 14:22
You can share. Gather up all the guys and bring some cards. LOL. Make it a poker night.Let us play strip poker with girls, ups they are already naked. LOL.
Faceless78
08-17-15, 14:37
And the girls are the chips? LOL.
"I bet 30 min incl CIM" that could be fun haha.It sounds like a very good prono scene LOL.
"in return, i rise it to a one hour threesome." hah
Craiova, yes. My rule is that the session lasts as long as it is fun for me and I have enough money. What is fun depends on the girl, sometimes it is the sex, sometimes a sexual vibe from just being next to someone special. It's not about not sharing, for example I will sometimes break a session so the girl can knock off some waiting 30 minute customers.
Yes Exodus, long sessions can be dangerous if the special girl gets a bit too special.
Nille Copenhagen
08-17-15, 14:54
And the girls are the chips? LOL.
"I bet 30 min incl CIM" that could be fun haha.You are bluffing, I'm betting my 5 hours session, anyone betting higher LOL.
Faceless78
08-17-15, 15:07
Jimmy boy 99.
It's just personal style. I tend to live in a slow pace more or less, and don't rush too much. Some of my friends are shocked about how I can survive in rooms for long hours, while I also can't understand how they are able to enjoy some 15-20 mins rushing sessions. But there's nothing right or wrong, we have different needs.
I chat quite a lot with girls and usually have good times together. I can't say they must like me, since I buy them food or drink or cig sometimes, but I can say overall I'm a pleasant man. And when I find my superstar, I'lll be happy to take her with me for longer hours. Probably it's about "no sharing", but more important is about how I feel with her.
Sex is the key point and I also enjoy more than just sex. I hardly start the sex one minute after entering the room, I can't feel too much from sudden kiss, touch or BJ. Even when I call escorts at my city, if I book one girl for one hour, the first 20 minutes we are just talking. Usually 30 mins is enough for me to finish, if no, I'll just put on my pants and come back next time.
The opposite to your friends, I started in your way, which is book one girl in separate hours, like 2 hours session - 1 hour break - 2 hoursessions - 1 hour break. Later I found it's quite annoying since I can't find her everytime when I finish my break, so after I just buy the whole time.
And I do ask some of my girls to stay with me for free, usually before closing. There's like half or one hour left, when she's no intention to make more money or simply look tired, we sit together, chat, or do nothing. And also during some none rushing hours. So from your opinion, what I am to her LOL.
Faceless78
08-17-15, 15:11
Craiova, yes. My rule is that the session lasts as long as it is fun for me and I have enough money. What is fun depends on the girl, sometimes it is the sex, sometimes a sexual vibe from just being next to someone special. It's not about not sharing, for example I will sometimes break a session so the girl can knock off some waiting 30 minute customers.
Yes Exodus, long sessions can be dangerous if the special girl gets a bit too special.+1 it's very very dangerous, at least for me, I've paid some of my price. Now, sometimes I have to cut off the mind of taking one same girl for too long or too many times.
Now we have details (103 pages!) about the changes due to the new law. Many more rules for the clubs and the girls. Also a big change for guys BBBJ isn't anymore allowed. BJ is than only allowed with condem. That mean also CIM or COF isn't anymore possible. Fining for guys doing this up to 500 euro, no fines for the girls. This could change german FKK scene. And should anybody think that is only on paper and in club its same like for many years in Bavaria with the local "Hygieneverordnung" where BBBJ wasn't allowed but everywhere there with no problem standard will maybe get a bad surprise. I'm quite sure this new law change these things.
Craiova,
What about AO sex? Would be surprising if still allowed natural sex but not natural BJ.
Craiova,
What about AO sex? Would be surprising if still allowed natural sex but not natural BJ.Of course its same isn't allowed. Same fines for guys up to 500 euro, no fines for the girls. I didn't mention because this should be clear.
Not mentioned is DATY maybe only allowed with cling film. LoL This point is so far joke.
Now we have details (103 pages!) about the changes due to the new law. Many more rules for the clubs and the girls. Also a big change for guys BBBJ isn't anymore allowed. BJ is than only allowed with condem. That mean also CIM or COF isn't anymore possible. Fining for guys doing this up to 500 euro, no fines for the girls. This could change german FKK scene. And should anybody think that is only on paper and in club its same like for many years in Bavaria with the local "Hygieneverordnung" where BBBJ wasn't allowed but everywhere there with no problem standard will maybe get a bad surprise. I'm quite sure this new law change these things.Hopefully this so called new law will be thrown in the garbage can. Doesn't the authorities got better things to do like fighting crime?
How do they intend to catch the "act" anyway? Camera in every room so they can watch it later on? LOL.
How do they intend to catch the "act" anyway? Camera in every room so they can watch it later on? LOL.In the way as it is handled everwhere in bavaria and like HB described it in the Colosseum Thread:
..before every room the girls have to sign a contract that they will not perform Sex without condom. After the session they have to go back, they will check the film from the hidden surveillance camera in the room together with the manager on duty.
In the way as it is handled everwhere in bavaria and like HB described it in the Colosseum Thread:Thanks for the info. Guess I have to make the most of it on my next trip.
My understanding is CBJ is required in Bavaria, but I've tried between 5-10 girls at Colosseum and each went straight to BBBJ without hesitation. The only FKK club I can remember where the girl insisted on CBJ was FKK Paradise in Stuttgart. I've encountered two girls that only offer CBJ. Once I found out, I decided to leave the room. I didn't pay them. Although both were annoyed and told me "You should ask next time before going to the room".
The major draw of the FKK is the fact that BBBJ is standard for 50 EUR. If the pricing became 50 EUR for CBJ at FKKs, then I might as well just go to the RLD. I mean I use the wellness and eat while at FKK clubs, but it is more so out of convenience and / or boredom. There are much better wellness facilities and restaurants off the FKK compound.
In the way as it is handled everwhere in bavaria and like HB described it in the Colosseum Thread:What! Every room in every FKK has a secret camera? Or is it just Colosseum.
What about Big 5 in Frankfurt?
Of course its same isn't allowed. Same fines for guys up to 500 euro, no fines for the girls. I didn't mention because this should be clear.
Not mentioned is DATY maybe only allowed with cling film. LoL This point is so far joke.So with this new German law, no more AO clubs in every "lander" ? If it s the case, good for women safety.
My understanding is CBJ is required in Bavaria, but I've tried between 5-10 girls at Colosseum and each went straight to BBBJ without hesitation.You know plenty of girls are still going to offer BBBJ / CIM service no matter what. They aren't going to want to give up the income associated with that. I will never pay extra at an FKK just to get a BBBJ, but I will to sperm in a girl's mouth, which I rarely do anyway but do enjoy from time to time. As you can attest from your own experience at Colosseum, BBBJ / CIM service isn't going away anytime soon. I wish these do-gooder assholes would just fuck off and leave us alone to enjoy our hobby! Now, I'm not giving up the opportunity to procure BBBJ / CIM service at an FKK, and I am unanimous in that!
UltraHappy
08-17-15, 23:59
The most beautiful girls in Europe are Swedish.Did someone say Swedish girls?
UltraHappy
08-18-15, 00:03
Sometimes it is not about "not sharing" but instead, simply wanting to keep her on "retainer" so-to-speak. For those of us on short vacations, we have to deal with the fact that a popular girl could be taken off the floor at any given moment for multiple hours. The only way to prevent this and to have her always "on tap" is to book her for the night.
Otherwise the other guys will steal her and you won't be able to have your fun with her when you want.
Of course, this wouldn't be an issue if I lived there. If I lived there and someone "stole" my girl, I could always just catch her at my next club visit. For those of us who live thousands of miles away though, "our next club visit" might be months away, so not so convenient to wait that long!
Jimmy Boy 99
08-18-15, 06:07
Jimmy boy 99.
It's just personal style. I tend to live in a slow pace more or less, and don't rush too much. Some of my friends are shocked about how I can survive in rooms for long hours, while I also can't understand how they are able to enjoy some 15-20 mins rushing sessions. But there's nothing right or wrong, we have different needs.
I chat quite a lot with girls and usually have good times together. I can't say they must like me, since I buy them food or drink or cig sometimes, but I can say overall I'm a pleasant man. And when I find my superstar, I'lll be happy to take her with me for longer hours. Probably it's about "no sharing", but more important is about how I feel with her.
Sex is the key point and I also enjoy more than just sex. I hardly start the sex one minute after entering the room, I can't feel too much from sudden kiss, touch or BJ. Even when I call escorts at my city, if I book one girl for one hour, the first 20 minutes we are just talking. Usually 30 mins is enough for me to finish, if no, I'll just put on my pants and come back next time.
The opposite to your friends, I started in your way, which is book one girl in separate hours, like 2 hours session - 1 hour break - 2 hoursessions - 1 hour break. Later I found it's quite annoying since I can't find her everytime when I finish my break, so after I just buy the whole time.
And I do ask some of my girls to stay with me for free, usually before closing. There's like half or one hour left, when she's no intention to make more money or simply look tired, we sit together, chat, or do nothing. And also during some none rushing hours. So from your opinion, what I am to her LOL.As you rightly stated, we all have different needs. What I don't understand is paying for a girl to be with you and not being physically involved with her in some way for the whole session. To clarify, I am not a wham, bam, thank you ma'am, kind of guy. Straight fuck and suck holds little interest for me. What I go to these clubs for is to enjoy the smell, taste, and touch of as many attractive girls (to me) as I am physically able to, in addition to BJ and sex. This normally involves kissing them, feeling them up all over, massaging them all over, especially their pussy, ass, and tits, and then DATY, BJ, 69, and sex. Since I never come with a condom, there is no goal to strive for, and thus fucking for 15 minutes in all positions is the same to me as fucking for 30 or 45 minutes. I can achieve all I want out of the session in 30 minutes, but, if the girl is sweet and / or hot looking and smart enough to pretend convincingly that she is enjoying the session, I will buy her act and reward her by extending the session to an hour by doing those things for a longer time.
Since the days of my fucking for more than an hour are long gone, I am usually dead by the end of the hour and need to rest. However, even if I wanted to fuck her more times that day, which is rarely the case, I am not going to pay her to wait for me, probably for at least an hour, to get ready again. Arrangements can be made to meet later for another tryst if I really want her, although, as you said, there is the risk, which I am willing to take since there are usually others who I could fuck in her stead, of her being grabbed by someone for extended periods and not being available again.
Since you are a pleasant and generous man, no doubt the girls like you. You are also a good customer who they want to keep coming back to them, so spending time with you when they don't want to fuck anymore or there is no business does not cost them any money, makes you feel special so you continue to go with them, and may be more interesting to them than sitting around alone or talking with the same girls they see every day.
At syzygies.
Have you ever done a Prague Privat? There are very less I should rare czech girls in the German FKK scene right? If I am not mistaken. And they say czech girls are the most beautiful breed in entire europe! So what do you reccomend always a German FKK or even Prague Privat also has something to offer in its own way?
Though I have posted this question for syzygies anybody else can also answer it. Feel free!!You have Czech girls at Oase, Elizabet and at World, Raïssa.
But if You like Slavian type the most beautiful girls are Russian Siberian, You can find many escorts in Paris like Michel on tour, and Estonian.
The most beautiful girls in Europe are Swedish.They were like NL girls but not anymore, can t compete with Russian and Estonian girls and drunk Swedish like so much to fuck Estonian girls on sex boat, then no prostitution in " all white" Sweden, just Shame on Swedish politics.
Hessen Bub
08-18-15, 07:41
There are no cameras inside the rooms, not at Colosseum, not at other German FKK. It will be difficult to enforce the new law as authorities will not be able to check and "catch you in the act". Public BBBJ may get rarer, AO clubs may be banned or at least can't advertise AO anymore, which most of the AO clubs are already doing, they do not mention AO on there website anymore.
I never experienced a CBJ in Bavaria: Colosseum, Heaven, Hawaii. Never heard of CBJ from Paradise in Saarbrücken, but Saarland has the same rules for covered sex only as Bavaria. (BTW: Paradise in Stuttgart is not in Bavaria so BBBJ is standard).
So let's wait and see. No need for panic. Although rules & regulations for club owners will make their life harder.
HB.
While I respect that people have the right to spend their money however they want, I am still amazed that some people do 5-6 hour (or longer) sessions. I have never found a girl in a club that I would want to pay to spend that much time with. Even if I could fuck continuously for that long (as apparently some posters here can), I would get bored fucking the same girl after a couple of hours. I prefer to have shorter (although still great) sessions with more girls than one great long session with one girl. What astonishes me, though, is that most guys in these marathon sessions apparently don't actually have sex during the whole time but chat, smoke, eat, drink, sit on the couch, etc. For the majority of the time. I thought the point of these clubs is to pay a girl to let you have sex with her, not talk to her. While I have, do, and will continue to pay for sex, I have never, don't, and will never pay for a girl to talk with me and just hang around with me. If they want to do this, I am happy to oblige, but off the clock, as then it will be because they want to do so, not because they are being paid to pretend to be interested in me. These girls, although they may offer a GFE during the session, are not our girlfriends and we should not delude ourselves into thinking they are (just ask a girl to spend some free time with you with no expectation of going to a room with her to see what you are to her).
I met a guy at a club who only went with one girl for 5-6 hours and then did no one else the rest of the time. After we had seen each other a couple of times at the club and become friendly, I asked him why he did what he did. He said that she was the only girl he liked at the club. I told him, fine, but why spend 5-6 hours at once, since he can't fuck the whole time, and not do 3 two-hour sessions, with breaks in-between, so both of them can rest, eat, etc. , perhaps find someone else to fuck, as well as give her a break from pretending to be interested in him, since, if we were to ask the girls, I think they would probably say the hardest part of the job for them is feigning that they like us and want to be with us. He eventually took my advice.I agree, I only buy sexual services and I don t pay for kiss, DATY, fingers, but I never force girls. I don t tip and I m not interested to pay time to drink, to play cards, to smoke and I prefer girls who don t because better breathe, to watch TV, to dance, l don t need massage or to stay at the bar with a girl, I don t pay for diner, if a girl wants it s for free but can give me will to go to room. Girls are not really interesting to chat in room, after my World experience, I prefer to listen to the fantastic Christine McVie and Stevie Nicks singing tell me lies. So most of time, 1 hour room is good for me to enjoy and foreplay but I can repeat with a girl many times a night. Besides no girl can resist to more than 30 minutes fucking with a little iron man used for real sports to put his heart up to 160 pulses for hours, not rude, but high rythm and stamina. I remember my 2 1 hour rooms with Valentina and I was her 1st of the day on Sunday each time, she finished with red face and make up and hair in disorder. Lavinia. De at GT asked me after 25 minutes and 10 minutes fucking if I wanted to extend, I answered let s play, but she preferred to stop at 30 minutes exhausted by 15 minutes fucking, saying me: other client waiting for me.
But I m not a sex superman who eat the blue pills tablet, just a iron sport man able not to feel all his body in pain or broken leg bone or shoulder when skiing.
So only clubs rates for me and I don t speak about money or about the World with liar girls, but I like some for pleasure they give me.
So let's wait and see. No need for panic. Although rules & regulations for club owners will make their life harder.
HB.I'm panicking alright this padawan is afraid he will get kill by the evil empire before he can become a powerful jedi, LOL.
Nille Copenhagen
08-18-15, 08:35
As you rightly stated, we all have different needs. What I don't understand is paying for a girl to be with you and not being physically involved with her in some way for the whole session.Well there are guys paying a lot for escort dinner date or overnight stay, I've done it myself. We pay for her time and it doesn't mean we have to fuck nonstop. But in the club I do fuck a lot during the longer session.
So normally I choose the girls that like sex for a long time.
How hard can it be to understand, that every man has his way of enjoy the girls company. And how he spend his money is his problem. There are guys wasting money on stupid things like smoking hehe.
There was a man coming at Bernds, every week booking the same girl, doing the same routine every time, past 10 years. It's like renting a girlfriend with no obligation, LOL.
The most beautiful girls in Europe are Swedish.So is a Privat in Prague equivalent to a German FKK in terms of Quality, Service and Concept? Anyone experienced both can compare these two for me?
Hessen Bub
08-18-15, 09:20
At syzygies.
Have you ever done a Prague Privat? I've done escorts in Prague. Prices are higher and service levels are lower compared to German FKK.
HB.
I've done escorts in Prague. Prices are higher and service levels are lower compared to German FKK.
HB.With the new law being enforced even FKK will have same service levels as in Prague or rest in Europe with no BBBJ and CIM it will (FKK) soon lose its plus points isn't it?
Nille Copenhagen
08-18-15, 11:00
So is a Privat in Prague equivalent to a German FKK in terms of Quality, Service and Concept? Anyone experienced both can compare these two for me?FKK is better, you have more choice and can socialize with girls and flirt with them before choosing. YMMV, I get the best experiences in FKK's, I do private apartment for a quick in and out visit. Prague is not what it used to be. Too many tourist has ruined the service.
So let's wait and see. No need for panic. Although rules & regulations for club owners will make their life harder.Yes, maybe the clubs won't be able to advertise 50 euros for CIM anymore, but we know that's exactly what's going to still be happening anyway. If it becomes against the rules, I would expect that some greedy girls will try to get even more for doing BBBJ / CIM too. Don't let them get away with that! We must hold the line at 50 euros, and no paying extra just to get a BBBJ regardless of CIM or not! The reason I don't do it more is because most girls just aren't good enough at it to suck me off. But when you find one that is, oh what a joy to explode your sperm all over her tongue, teeth, and gums. And maybe on her face too. Some guys like to go for the tits, but I prefer in her mouth when I find that right one. I must have this pleasurable option!
Don't let them get away with that! We must hold the line at 50 euros, and no paying extra just to get a BBBJ regardless of CIM or not! The reason I don't do it more is because most girls just aren't good enough at it to suck me off. But when you find one that is, oh what a joy to explode your sperm all over her tongue, teeth, and gums. And maybe on her face too. Some guys like to go for the tits, but I prefer in her mouth when I find that right one. I must have this pleasurable option!Yes you are completely rite we must stand together and demand BBBJ still incl in the 50 e!
Don't think the girls offer facial bc it will ruin her makeup which might scare us to death, LOL.
Yes you are completely rite we must stand together and demand BBBJ still incl in the 50 e!.Of course I have the same wish but I have some doubts. It could work maybe in small clubs, maybe even in some clubs in NRW but for the big5 in Frankfurt I have some real doubts. Regular "good" clients with regulars could work but don't work in all other cases at the Frankfurt big5. If new law don't allow BBBJ anymore and this is now very likely than standard session for 50 euro will only include CBJ and fuck. And I don't see only some greedy girls at club for me allmost all of them are greedy, BTW same as clubs and BTW me too!
So I'm quite sure if new law comes in that way standard 50 euro session includes no BBBJ anymore in the Frankfurt big5.
So I'm quite sure if new law comes in that way standard 50 euro session includes no BBBJ anymore in the Frankfurt big5.Why does the Govt want to ruin all the fun they should fight serious crime instead and now the crime rate will skyrock bc only get CBJ and get frustrated, LOL.
Is this law 100% certain? Where are they powerful lobby groups that can influence to trash this law.
Is this law 100% certain? Where are they powerful lobby groups that can influence to trash this law.Not 100% certain but already very close to it especially this point BBBJ and BBFS.
Not 100% certain but already very close to it especially this point BBBJ and BBFS.Thanks! BBBJ is like superimportant wonder if a lot of clubs will close down bc of this.
FKK is better, you have more choice and can socialize with girls and flirt with them before choosing. YMMV, I get the best experiences in FKK's, I do private apartment for a quick in and out visit. Prague is not what it used to be. Too many tourist has ruined the service.But it's mostly East European Girls that you get in a German FKK what if someone wants diversity there are very rare almost none Czech girls working in Frankfurt FKK's AFAIK. But Privat has the same rate as an German FKK.
Yes you are completely rite we must stand together and demand BBBJ still incl in the 50 e!
Don't think the girls offer facial bc it will ruin her makeup which might scare us to death, LOL.I think it's a right time to call for a U . N security council general meeting urging all members to pass a resolution to allow BBBJ and CIM in German FKK's!! LMAO !!
But it's mostly East European Girls that you get in a German FKK what if someone wants diversity there are very rare almost none Czech girls working in Frankfurt FKK's AFAIK. But Privat has the same rate as an German FKK.Even without long thinking CZ girls working in Frankfurt FKK I know Suzi and Jana at Mainhattan and Elisabeth at Oase and Hannah at Palace / Sharks. And I'm sure there are more at Oase, Palace, World and Sharks. Also some in the small Frankfurt FKK clubs. But what should be so special on CZ Girls? Meanwhile I'm a real fan of Romanian girls.
AFAIK service in german FKKs better that Prague escorts and prices are lower. Also the new law won't change this.
PussyLiccker
08-18-15, 14:37
But it's mostly East European Girls that you get in a German FKK what if someone wants diversity there are very rare almost none Czech girls working in Frankfurt FKK's AFAIK. But Privat has the same rate as an German FKK.I don't know if a girl being Czech makes them guaranteed that generally they are are hot. If you are curious you should just go there and witness it yourself. It's not that far off from Germany. I rarely run into Czech girls so I have no basis to say I find lots of them attractive. I like Hungarians, but there is no telling what type of Hungarian you may run into in the country when doing in or out call. Based on my read, escorts seem a bit of a crapshoot as you call enough of them and a percentage responds. I just happened to meet small sampling in FKKs and one turned out to be the hottest I've seen, and some others I find attractive with great attitude. For that reason I want to do Hungary to get a general idea, but unlike Czech, I don't believe there is FKK or Privat system there. Running into semi pros in Europe would be more fun, but I believe you have to invest a bit of time for that. The time I don't have much of and I don't live in Europe.
At times Czech girls are mentioned like Elizabeth at Oase, and at times for Mainhattan which I think Craiova would know if they still work there. Pretty rare though. Oh yeah, Czech Heidi from GT long ago who was a beautiful model type, but she's not in the business anymore, now a Theke, and a bit older now.
Jimmy Boy 99
08-18-15, 16:10
How hard can it be to understand, that every man has his way of enjoy the girls company. And how he spend his money is his problem. There are guys wasting money on stupid things like smoking hehe.When one doesn't personally value a behavior (smoking, buying fancy sports cars, spending money unnecessarily (in that person's opinion) on girls, etc.) it is difficult to understand why people do it. However, as you said, that is their problem, so I will leave it at that.
Nille Copenhagen
08-18-15, 16:45
But it's mostly East European Girls that you get in a German FKK what if someone wants diversity there are very rare almost none Czech girls working in Frankfurt FKK's AFAIK. But Privat has the same rate as an German FKK.There are Czech girls at Artemis. I had fun with some of them.
When one doesn't personally value a behavior (smoking, buying fancy sports cars, spending money unnecessarily (in that person's opinion) on girls, etc.) it is difficult to understand why people do it. However, as you said, that is their problem, so I will leave it at that.I'm so far ok with your point. Only one thing I don't agree why you call it "their problem"? I for myself have the opposite of this in my long time bookings. I have fun and enjoy this and this is same other guys I know booking longtime. Also the booked girls seems to like it. Maybe more a problem of the other guys and girls?
And a other strange thing. I was only once in Thailand for some weeks. I'm not a fan of Asian girls prefer more european style. Of course I made a lot of short time bookings but also some 24 hours long time sessions. This was in Patong Beach and Bangkok. When I rented a car doing some sightseeing and visit some national parks there I booked a girl even for 5 days in Thailand. Now comes my point. Of course I've informed myself about pay sex in Thailand here at ISG and other forums. And I found out that long time bookings overnight are done by almost most of the guys, they seem to enjoy haveing a young girl next to them can fuck them whenever they want. No one really complained about this almost everybody likes this.
But here at german FKK clubs many guys seems to don't understand the advantage and fun of long time bookings at FKK clubs.
Questioning myself why the difference between Thailand and german FKK there is good and here is stupid? I have really no idea why we have this different opinions for same subject LOL.
Maybe someone can explain me this? One help maybe 24 hour booking at Thailand some years ago was around 70 euro and in german FKK clubs how much is a 12 hours booking?
But here at german FKK clubs many guys seems to don't understand the advantage and fun of long time bookings at FKK clubs.
Questioning myself why the difference between Thailand and german FKK there is good and here is stupid? I have really no idea why we have this different opinions for same subject LOL.
Ofc there are alot of adv with long bookings most notably remove the risk of her being taken and not available for a long time (1st hand experience here, hehe) esp if you are not living in Germany or can't drive 800 km on the highway to reach the promised land, LOL.
I suppose its abit annoying having a girl you want a session w busy whole day but there are other fish in the sea so no problem rly.
Personally I prefer 1 h then 1-2 h break then 1 h again and if she is busy just go after someone else. There should most of the time be other replacement available.
Jimmy Boy 99
08-18-15, 18:05
I'm so far ok with your point. Only one thing I don't agree why you call it "their problem"? I for myself have the opposite of this in my long time bookings. I have fun and enjoy this and this is same other guys I know booking longtime. Also the booked girls seems to like it. Maybe more a problem of the other guys and girls??It's their problem in the sense that they are spending money in a way that you wouldn't.
Now comes my point. Of course I've informed myself about pay sex in Thailand here at ISG and other forums. And I found out that long time bookings overnight are done by almost most of the guys, they seem to enjoy haveing a young girl next to them can fuck them whenever they want. No one really complained about this almost everybody likes this.
But here at german FKK clubs many guys seems to don't understand the advantage and fun of long time bookings at FKK clubs.
Questioning myself why the difference between Thailand and german FKK there is good and here is stupid? I have really no idea why we have this different opinions for same subject LOL.
Maybe someone can explain me this? One help maybe 24 hour booking at Thailand some years ago was around 70 euro and in german FKK clubs how much is a 12 hours booking?LT in Thailand is generally no more than twice the short-time rate (generally for an hour or two). You don't pay the short time rate again every time the short-time period expires until the session ends, so it makes sense to go long time. In contrast, in German FKKs, it's usually 100 Euro an hour for every hour you are with her. To try to make it somewhat equivalent to Thailand, the FKK girl would have to charge a discounted rate for longer sessions, say 2-300 Euro for 5-6 hour sessions. Try that with an FKK girl and see how she reacts.
So I'm quite sure if new law comes in that way standard 50 euro session includes no BBBJ anymore in the Frankfurt big5.Why do you say that? I mean, the guys in the know here say that in Bavaria the girls are still giving BBBJs. Why not in Frankfurt too then? I swear to God I'll do what it takes to get my dingus sucked without a condom! I'll go to Switzerland, I'll go to Switzerland! Watch me LOL! Or, I'll just stick with the place that's always been number one in my books. Rio de Janeiro!
SwingerLover
08-18-15, 23:17
Now we have details (103 pages!) about the changes due to the new law. I suppose you are referring to this Bullshit here: http://www.internet-law.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Referentenentwurf-Prostituiertenschutzgesetz_29.07.2015.pdf.
First of all: This is a first "consultant's CONCEPT"! Which I sstill about to undergo editing and development. Then it will have to get passed, which is by no means certain when I see how they are (not) handling the Autobahn toll issue. There's still a good chance that either of those "laws" will get postponed into the next decade. Or into infinity.
So I would like you to stop talking about "changes due to the new law" when there's still nothing out there, other than this first draft / consultant's concept.
Then there's this "condom duty" which in itself is a violation of everybody's personal rights and therefore invalid right from the start. The first hoor, punter or brothel owner who will fight this before the EuGH will kill this "law" in it's entirety.
I still foresee no Problems, other than everybody falling right in line again and obeying this Bullshit like a good little slave would obey his Massa. Which will hopefully not happen this time, because this 'concept' as it is right now (and I have not read every detail yet) would kill the prostitution business completely. So everybody will have no other choice than to fight it and / or ignore it. Or quit prostitution altogether. And the whole bunch of loopholes I had partially pointed out months ago still remains. Which I will not point out here anymore again. 'Charlie' might be reading this as well.
I swear to God I'll do what it takes to get my dingus sucked without a condom! I'll go to Switzerland, I'll go to Switzerland! Watch me LOL! Or, I'll just stick with the place that's always been number one in my books. Rio de Janeiro!I like yr attitude Mr Cane. Yes even if you have to walk to Switzerland with yr cane you will still get yr BBBJ, haha.
I suppose you are referring to this Bullshit here: http://www.internet-law.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Referentenentwurf-Prostituiertenschutzgesetz_29.07.2015.pdf.
First of all: This is a first "consultant's CONCEPT"! Thanks, so still just a consultant BS. Total waste of taxpayers money.
Thanks, so still just a consultant BS. Total waste of taxpayers money.Sorry but this translation "Consultant concept" is from my point of view a simpling translation. The process of renewing the regulations for prostitution in Germany is going on for almost two years. There were a lot of discussion about different opinions between the two parties of the grand coalition in Germany. Over this two years you could find many articles in german press about the latest trends. There were many meetings of these two political parties of grand coalition. Both sides made many compromise up to now. And these 103 pages are not a consultant concept this is the draft of the responsible department of legal authorities. This is a complete law with paragrath and implementing regulations. This will go very likely to lower house of parliament of Germany for vote.
Of course a lot of things in this new regulations are also for me bullshit. But my opinion isn't important. So it's very likely it goes soon in this direction. Maybe a little hope the actual proposal of Amnesty International for legalization of prostitution changes the mind of the political parties but from my point not very likley. Look at the rules in Sweden and the discussion in France. Why should Germany go an other way?
Again in my opinion a lot of the planed changes are bullshit especially the duty for using condems. But I don't close my eyes and prepare myself if this comes in this way. But the rules are made from German government and not from wishfull thinking of some guys in a sex forum.
Maybe a little hope the actual proposal of Amnesty International for legalization of prostitution changes the mind of the political parties but from my point not very likley. Look at the rules in Sweden and the discussion in France. Why should Germany go an other way?
Again in my opinion a lot of the planed changes are bullshit especially the duty for using condems. But I don't close my eyes and prepare myself if this comes in this way. But the rules are made from German government and not from wishfull thinking of some guys in a sex forum.Idk anymore guess we will just wait and see what happens. Read about the Amnestys call for legalizing prostitution.
Not saying you are making this stuff up, LOL. Just hoped you misunderstood the whole thing so I can sleep sound again haha jk.
Not saying you are making this stuff up, LOL. Just hoped you misunderstood the whole thing so I can sleep sound again.I wish I would! LOL.
I've done escorts in Prague. Prices are higher and service levels are lower compared to German FKK.
HB.Also better services in FKK than in Prague clubs where no DFK and CBJ, I met a brunette girl at Sharks, I saw her arriving, she arrived from working in Prague, not a top model but very "fresh" look and behavior, I had to explain her for standard services with DFK and BBBJ, she said me it would be difficult for her, never saw her again.
Sorry but this translation "Consultant concept" is from my point of view a simpling translation. The process of renewing the regulations for prostitution in Germany is going on for almost two years. There were a lot of discussion about different opinions between the two parties of the grand coalition in Germany. Over this two years you could find many articles in german press about the latest trends. There were many meetings of these two political parties of grand coalition. Both sides made many compromise up to now. And these 103 pages are not a consultant concept this is the draft of the responsible department of legal authorities. This is a complete law with paragrath and implementing regulations. This will go very likely to lower house of parliament of Germany for vote.
Of course a lot of things in this new regulations are also for me bullshit. But my opinion isn't important. So it's very likely it goes soon in this direction. Maybe a little hope the actual proposal of Amnesty International for legalization of prostitution changes the mind of the political parties but from my point not very likley. Look at the rules in Sweden and the discussion in France. Why should Germany go an other way?
Again in my opinion a lot of the planed changes are bullshit especially the duty for using condems. But I don't close my eyes and prepare myself if this comes in this way. But the rules are made from German government and not from wishful thinking of some guys in a sex forum.I wish Germans will stay more clever than french and more honest than Swedish about prostitution. Swedish think no more prostitution, but still in dark places and on boats sailing to Tallin. French politics are too stupid about managing prostitution.
Germans should just make forbidden AO clubs to protect women health and of course remains problem about pimps.
There are Czech girls at Artemis. I had fun with some of them.I generally put up in Frankfurt while in Germany. So not sure if I want to travel to Berlin for this, but if I have to Travel to Berlin I might aswell travel to Prague and check out some Czech Girls well in Prague in the land itself, and with a lot of options to choose from. But I don't know why people here are saying that the Privat in Prague are not as similar as FKK. People in the Prague forum have informed me that if you don't want to do escorts in Prague and you are looking out for a thing which in price and quality as equal as a FKK then Privat is your best bet. Sad I can't take a call from just reading here.
Delta Indigo
08-19-15, 07:57
Now we have details (103 pages!) about the changes due to the new law. Many more rules for the clubs and the girls. Also a big change for guys BBBJ isn't anymore allowed. BJ is than only allowed with condem. That mean also CIM or COF isn't anymore possible. Fining for guys doing this up to 500 euro, no fines for the girls. This could change german FKK scene. And should anybody think that is only on paper and in club its same like for many years in Bavaria with the local "Hygieneverordnung" where BBBJ wasn't allowed but everywhere there with no problem standard will maybe get a bad surprise. I'm quite sure this new law change these things.Hello I have been through this document and I can't find the place where BBBJ is allegedly illegal. It does say (1) customers and clients of prostitutes, and prostitutes are obliged.
To use condoms during sexual intercourse. (google translate) but I interpret that as meaning vaginal or anal sex and not a blow job.
I think this is aimed at Alle Ohne clubs and not BBBJ. In fact I did find any text specifically mentioning oral sex and condoms. Where did you see this?
Delta Indigo
08-19-15, 08:01
Hello I have been through this document and I can't find the place where BBBJ is allegedly illegal. It does say (1) customers and clients of prostitutes, and prostitutes are obliged.
To use condoms during sexual intercourse. (google translate) but I interpret that as meaning vaginal or anal sex and not a blow job.
I think this is aimed at Alle Ohne clubs and not BBBJ. In fact I did find any text specifically mentioning oral sex and condoms. Where did you see this?I don't think they will be enforcing this effectively, but here it is.
For the sake of prevention of sexually transmitted diseases and thus to protect.
Both prostitutes and clients or customers and indirectly affected.
Persons and the general public is an obligation under paragraph 1 of prostitutes.
And their customers and clients to use condoms during sexual intercourse.
Introduced. Under intercourse fall beside the vaginal also.
Oral and anal intercourse.
Nille Copenhagen
08-19-15, 08:09
I generally put up in Frankfurt while in Germany. So not sure if I want to travel to Berlin for this, but if I have to Travel to Berlin I might aswell travel to Prague and check out some Czech Girls well in Prague in the land itself, and with a lot of options to choose from. But I don't know why people here are saying that the Privat in Prague are not as similar as FKK. People in the Prague forum have informed me that if you don't want to do escorts in Prague and you are looking out for a thing which in price and quality as equal as a FKK then Privat is your best bet. Sad I can't take a call from just reading here.I been to Prague many times, actually I worked there for a period, you can find lot of fun in Prague, it require more work, for me Berlin and Germany is easier, I speak some German as well.
Nowadays I find Prague is too much for tourists regarding f4P, If you haven't been to Prague, do go there and experience the city, but for me I wouldn't go there for sex. I been there done that. Got the T-shirt- too many times.
For me the Berlin scene is closer more fun and I know the service is good. Almost everybody speaks German and English, so no problem with the communication, In CZ communication can be an issue as many girls don't speak English that well.
Banana Boi
08-19-15, 10:16
If BBBJ does become illegal in Germany YY and Sixsens will become the hottest clubs.
Nille Copenhagen
08-19-15, 10:37
If BBBJ does become illegal in Germany YY and Sixsens will become the hottest clubs.Or YinYang.
BBBJ is fully legal in Denmark hehe you guys can come here. LOL.
UltraHappy
08-19-15, 11:10
I don't think they will be enforcing this effectively, but here it is.
For the sake of prevention of sexually transmitted diseases and thus to protect.
Both prostitutes and clients or customers and indirectly affected.
Persons and the general public is an obligation under paragraph 1 of prostitutes.
And their customers and clients to use condoms during sexual intercourse.
Introduced. Under intercourse fall beside the vaginal also.
Oral and anal intercourse.Could you provide a link to the actual text of the new Prostitute Protection Act? So far, this is the most detailed information I could find regarding the new act:
https://goo.gl/Rs1eK9
Could you provide a link to the actual text of the new Prostitute Protection Act? So far, this is the most detailed information I could find regarding the new act:
Your link UH is old stuff from 2014. The link to the actual text you'll find already below at post 4086. Look there on page 91 on the implememtations regulations for $32 paragrah 1.
In this draft there is also one regulation that this law will be in force 6 month after publication in Federal Law Gazette. That mean from my point of view earliest July 1st. 2016.
I generally put up in Frankfurt while in Germany. So not sure if I want to travel to Berlin for this, but if I have to Travel to Berlin I might aswell travel to Prague and check out some Czech Girls well in Prague in the land itself, and with a lot of options to choose from. But I don't know why people here are saying that the Privat in Prague are not as similar as FKK. People in the Prague forum have informed me that if you don't want to do escorts in Prague and you are looking out for a thing which in price and quality as equal as a FKK then Privat is your best bet. Sad I can't take a call from just reading here.In Prague, out of escorts, most of time no real DFK, nor BBBJ, only CBJ. You have Elizabet. Cz, famous at Oase, and very pretty blond long hair to ass Raïssa. Cz, superstar at World and Suzi at Mainhattan, but now holidays time for girls.
In this draft there is also one regulation that this law will be in force 6 month after publication in Federal Law Gazette. That mean from my point of view earliest July 1st. 2016.That means that 1st July is possibly the earliest date of Armageddon: S.
Cmon my fellow padawans and jedi masters we need to join forces and fight back against the evil empire, LOL.
May the "fuck" be with you.
It's their problem in the sense that they are spending money in a way that you wouldn't.
In German FKKs, it's usually 100 Euro an hour for every hour you are with her. To try to make it somewhat equivalent to Thailand, the FKK girl would have to charge a discounted rate for longer sessions, say 2-300 Euro for 5-6 hour sessions. Try that with an FKK girl and see how she reacts.At GT before, you could have a girl with real ethic like angel Ina. Lat for 6 hours for 325 € , then can have a break for diner and I m sure she would have offered diner time for free.
Nille Copenhagen
08-19-15, 23:22
At GT before, you could have a girl with real ethic like angel Ina. Lat for 6 hours for 325.. Dream on.
The girls would never go with you at that rate for 6 hours, maybe 2 hour max. If the club is busy she can make more money with 30 min session for 50€.
GT is always busy!
PussyLiccker
08-20-15, 00:29
Or YinYang.
BBBJ is fully legal in Denmark hehe you guys can come here. LOL.Oh it's legal there, I would have thought otherwise like the other Scandinavian countries with the BS law. I like to meet some Danish delights. Brothels are illegal though. Wish there was FKKs with Danish chicks in them, and Swedes too. All the Scandinavian girls. The hot ones.
Austria too, but a girl didn't like my cock. She attempted to put a condom on. I always thought my cock was good lookin, I guess not. I need BBBJ, not the same covered.
At GT before, you could have a girl with real ethic like angel Ina. Lat for 6 hours for 325 , then can have a break for diner and I m sure she would have offered diner time for free.
I wish I can go back in time. Didn't realize how great it was at the time looking back.
Nille Copenhagen
08-20-15, 00:39
Oh it's legal there, I would have thought otherwise like the other Scandinavian countries with the BS law. I like to meet some Danish delights. Brothels are illegal though. Wish there was FKKs with Danish chicks in them, and Swedes too. All the Scandinavian girls. The hot ones.
Austria too, but a girl didn't like my cock. She attempted to put a condom on. I always thought my cock was good lookin, I guess not. I need BBBJ, not the same covered.The other Nordic brothers are moralists, so P4P is illegal, Denmark is the black sheep in the Nordic family, we are bad, we fuck, we drink, we are speeding. LOL.
Brothels are legal here, pimping is illegal, we are working on a small FKK-concept with danish girls, here.
Banana Boi
08-20-15, 01:02
I wish I can go back in time. Didn't realize how great it was at the time looking back.The high USD against Euro exchange rate likely equate to 75 euro per hour back in 2012. It's still cheap times for Americans to visit FKK's.
PussyLiccker
08-20-15, 01:35
The high USD against Euro exchange rate likely equate to 75 euro per hour back in 2012. It's still cheap times for Americans to visit FKK's.You're right, the dollar has been strong against the Euro lately. I'm getting more for my dollars. I regret not taking advantage of the cheaper extended rooms I could have had back then. If I did 2 hrs, that would have been 125 compared to 200(and compounds as you do longer and longer). That's 38% compare to 15% I'm saving now with the current rate. Even 1 HR, I would have saved 10% more back then. I'm getting 15% more my dollars now in general.
For Magnum up from 80, I was better off by 5% than now. It all depends on how the exchange rate is at the time. It was 1.05 not to long ago, but now it's 1.11.
PussyLiccker
08-20-15, 02:25
If the club is busy she can make more money with 30 min session for 50.
GT is always busy!I think that's what probably happened as the club was busy when I started punting there. Plenty of punters around and extended room rate was extremely low comparatively to 30 min rooms here and there. It was a great rate nonetheless.
Dream on.
The girls would never go with you at that rate for 6 hours, maybe 2 hour max. If the club is busy she can make more money with 30 min session for 50.
GT is always busy!I didn't meet Ina at GT in summer 2013 , I discovered her at Oase in summer 2014 , but if you knew that angel girl, so honest, I m sure no problem to stay all day with her for 50/ h after 1st hour at 75 , at this time. Now Cora. De ask for 75 for 30 minutes with DFK and DATY and she is not the only German to ask so.
SwingerLover
08-20-15, 20:57
Sorry but this translation "Consultant concept" is from my point of view a simpling translation. The process of renewing the regulations for prostitution in Germany is going on for almost two years. There were a lot of discussion about different opinions between the two parties of the grand coalition in Germany. Over this two years you could find many articles in german press about the latest trends. There were many meetings of these two political parties of grand coalition. Both sides made many compromise up to now. And these 103 pages are not a consultant concept this is the draft of the responsible department of legal authorities. This is a complete law with paragrath and implementing regulations. This will go very likely to lower house of parliament of Germany for vote.
Of course a lot of things in this new regulations are also for me bullshit. But my opinion isn't important. So it's very likely it goes soon in this direction. Maybe a little hope the actual proposal of Amnesty International for legalization of prostitution changes the mind of the political parties but from my point not very likley. Look at the rules in Sweden and the discussion in France. Why should Germany go an other way?
Again in my opinion a lot of the planed changes are bullshit especially the duty for using condems. But I don't close my eyes and prepare myself if this comes in this way. But the rules are made from German government and not from wishfull thinking of some guys in a sex forum.Sorry about the language barrier, my translation "consultant concept" might not be entirely correct, but I don't know how else to translate "Referentenentwurf". But the 103-page-Bullshit I posted the link for is NOT yet a draft law, it's just a "Referentenentwurf" for a draft law right now. Meaning: This is the first attempt! And it's only the second time so far that I've seen anything official on this matter at all; the first time was the 'corner points paper' from August 14th 2014. Any newspaper article so far was based on that one, and most of them contained only half-truths at best. (Like a "gangbang-ban", where it had only read "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) gangbang". About both of which I didn't see anything in the Referentenentwurf, by the way. Neither about a flatrate ban. Or did I miss that? I didn't read the whole thing completely yet.).
Okay, let's look at Sweden for a moment. From what I'm hearing and reading, the number of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) cases has skyrocketed in Sweden since the prostitution ban was implemented. The German Kaiser-Reich had legalized prostitution over a century ago, in order to get the number of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) cases down, and it had worked. I don't think there's any more room for discussion on THIS matter.
And about "German governement" making the rules, especially a forced comdom duty: We'll have to see about THAT! A while ago Zoman69 had already posted a report where he already had questioned their right to do something like that, since it's a complete violation of everybody's personal freedom and therefore against EU rules. (Something in that manner, I don't recall his exact choice of words right now.) So I think "German governement" is the one with the wishful thinking here.
And when I look at the Saarland, where they already have a "condom duty" and how it is NOT enforced (from what I'm hearing), then I wouldn't worry too much about it being implemented and then uninforceable anywhere else. Like I wrote: The first one who will challenge this "condom duty" before the EuGH will certainly wipe out the entire "law". If it should get passed as the "Referentenentwurf" reads right now. Which would propably be a first time ever for such an "abstractor's plan / layout / scheme / blueprint / rough copy" or "tentative draft" or "draft legislative provision". (Maybe one of those terms describes "Referentenentwurf" a little better than "consultant's concept?
I wish Germans will stay more clever than french and more honest than Swedish about prostitution. Swedish think no more prostitution, but still in dark places and on boats sailing to Tallin. French politics are too stupid about managing prostitution.
Germans should just make forbidden AO clubs to protect women health and of course remains problem about pimps.That's the problem right there: Apparently it has NOT stopped in Sweden, but went Underground. How does that protect women in general and pros in particular?
And how should "make forbidden AO clubs to protect women health" protect women when it will go Underground here as well?
Any problem with "pimps" could be solved with already existing laws, there's no need for a new one, that will most likely not solve this particular problem either.
Hello I have been through this document and I can't find the place where BBBJ is allegedly illegal.It doesn't say that BBBJ is illegal, it says that they would like to implement a "duty" to use condoms during paid sexual services. (Which would include BBBJs as well.) If you just want to do DATY, you'll propably have to put a condom over your tongue. Propably during French kissing as well.
Vito Corleone
08-21-15, 08:50
At GT before, you could have a girl with real ethic like angel Ina. Lat for 6 hours for 325 , then can have a break for diner and I m sure she would have offered diner time for free.I spent many long sessions with Ina / Santa when she started at GT. Did a couple threesomes with her friend / cousin Milana. Both charged 50+25+25+25+25.
Vito Corleone
08-21-15, 08:57
Dream on.
The girls would never go with you at that rate for 6 hours, maybe 2 hour max. If the club is busy she can make more money with 30 min session for 50.
GT is always busy!Both Ina / Santa & Milana charged me that rate. 50, 25, 25, 25, 25. Ina / Santa not only provided great service but had the stamina to keep going till I was spent & needed a long break. Never complained about time or pricing.
Did you session with her back then?
I agree with you SL a duty for useing condems is against our individual rights, but who cares? Look on spying our personal data through many states. Sure against many laws. Has this really stopped? No! Will we ever see a real lawsuit against it? Never. So you are right but you won't probaly never win.
And there are probably more groups for as against a duty to use condems. Ok most of the punters against it at least for oral sex but I don't know a union of unhappy punters. It's a pity that german government don't use the sex and intercourse definition of Bill Clinton. LOL This would solve the problem with BBBJ. LOL.
And with this "Referentenentwurf" we are maybe closer on complition as you believe. This is the draft of the responsible ministry. A little bit more discussion with the other minstries and the two coalition parties and than with or without changes the so far called "Referentenentwurf" is than called "Regierungsentwurf" and this goes than on German parliament for vote.
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A little bit more discussion with the other minstries and the two coalition parties and than with or without changes the so far called "Referentenentwurf" is than called "Regierungsentwurf" and this goes than on German parliament for vote.Hopefully the parties will not agree on any of its points so no need to vote. Or the parliament members will all vote no bc they too enjoy BBBJ, LOL.
Dear friends,
Where I can found a list of Privats in Prague, with addresses and phone number?
Best regards.
Nille Copenhagen
08-21-15, 16:19
Both Ina / Santa & Milana charged me that rate. 50, 25, 25, 25, 25. Ina / Santa not only provided great service but had the stamina to keep going till I was spent & needed a long break. Never complained about time or pricing.
Did you session with her back then?No I did not sample her, back then I took longer sessions with Jana (DE / PL), Sabrina, Amy (DE / Asian), Rachel and her friend and many more I don't recall the names, In the beginning, some girls accepted, 50+25+25+25. But the they went over to 50+25+50+25, and the end 50+50+50+50.
I had more 50+25+25+25 sessions at LR then GT. But it all history now. After the opening of Oceans. So I'm blaming Oceans for raising the price at GT+LR.
I spent many long sessions with Ina / Santa when she started at GT. Did a couple threesomes with her friend / cousin Milana. Both charged 50+25+25+25+25.I was with Liz. De in July 2013 , so I missed Ina who was at GT on end of July and August, on August I drove so many kilometers for Lena. Lat at PSR, a dreamed Slavian charm MILF, You were a lucky man with angel Ina for 25/30 minutes. I only met her on summer 2014 at Oase. If I see her again at Oase, I will advice her to change, she will be a star in any club and deserves to eat when she needs.
Dear friends,
Where I can found a list of Privats in Prague (with addresses and phone number?
Best regards.You can start by asking in the correct thread (s).
No I did not sample her, back then I took longer sessions with Jana (DE / PL), Sabrina, Amy (DE / Asian), Rachel and her friend and many more I don't recall the names, In the beginning, some girls accepted, 50+25+25+25. But the they went over to 50+25+50+25, and the end 50+50+50+50.
I had more 50+25+25+25 sessions at LR then GT. But it all history now. After the opening of Oceans. So I'm blaming Oceans for raising the price at GT+LR.Rachel, blond Mia. De asked for 100/ h before Oceans opened, when Oceans opened they asked for 75 for 30 GFE minutes with kiss, also Cora. De now.
[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901). De propose 150 for 30 minutes to heaven, I prefer "stairway to heaven" with Led Zeppelin.
And they can t compete with Ina. Lat, only Rachel when she started on end of 2013.
If I see her again at Oase, I will advice her to change, she will be a star in any club and deserves to eat when she needs.I'm sure if she is a star she can afford to buy food.
Hessen Bub
08-23-15, 22:37
Ina for 25/30 minutes. I only met her on summer 2014 at Oase. If I see her again at Oase, I will advice her to change, she will be a star in any club and deserves to eat when she needs.Staying at Oase helps staying slim.
HB.
When does this idiot no BBBJ rule come into effect? My trip is in November. Should I cancel it if I want BBBJ?
When does this idiot no BBBJ rule come into effect? My trip is in November. Should I cancel it if I want BBBJ?This rule is not in effect right now. It's supposed to come at the start of next year. But according to previous discussion on this thread it's still in draft mode and may not pass as it is. Hopefully it will be thrown in trash.
When does this idiot no BBBJ rule come into effect? My trip is in November. Should I cancel it if I want BBBJ?I heard from a German source the new law will not be passed until May 2016. You should still be fine. Let's hope the present refugee crisis gets totally out of control so that governments have enough on their plate not to legislate on sex. In times of piece and quiet, any democracy degenerates into a feminist police state.
When does this idiot no BBBJ rule come into effect? My trip is in November. Should I cancel it if I want BBBJ?What! No condom blow job may get banned in German FKK?
If so that stops me from going there. If this law? Pass I got to head to Switzerland or Austria.
Is it realistic that no condom blow job get banned in German FKK next year?
Hi guys,
I will be in Frankfurt for one day. Looking for value / budget FKK's or partytreffs. The only one I know of so far is FKK Dietzenbach, which has great reviews. Can anyone recommend any other places?
Thanks
Hi,
I will be in Frankfurt for one day. Looking for value / budget FKK's or partytreffs. So far I know only of FKK Dietzenbach which has great reviews. Can anyone suggest any other places?
Thanks
Banana Boi
08-27-15, 22:33
If so that stops me from going there. If this law? Pass I got to head to Switzerland or Austria.Is it really worth paying 2-4 times more in Switzerland just to get a BBBJ?
Is it really worth paying 2-4 times more in Switzerland just to get a BBBJ?For me yeah. BBBJ is the thing for me and condom BJ is no way I am going back there kinda feeling (I grew up mongering with Condom BJ as that all brothel offered back then till I find FKK.
So I will pay 2 times more in Switzerland. But in Austria, it is same as German FKK price no? Beside Babylon, where it is like few hundred euro per hour, but better quality girls.
But man, such rumor about laws has been common before. , so what is the realism of this law of forced condom BJ to pass?
Staying at Oase helps staying slim.
HB.If You know Ina, You know she can afford to eat and I spoke with her about problem for girls at Oase about eating allowed only once, that s why next time, I will advice her to go to Sharks, like for my dreamed Mainhattan girl last Saturday.
Hessen Bub
08-28-15, 10:16
What! No condom blow job may get banned in German FKK?
If so that stops me from going there. If this law? Pass I got to head to Switzerland or Austria.
Is it realistic that no condom blow job get banned in German FKK next year?As I said before, let's wait and see. And don't panic. It's not effective yet, for example the Secretary of State for Health in NRW just stated that she is against a requirement to use condoms as it can't be enforced.
http://www.express.de/politik-wirtschaft/-pure-symbolpolitik--nrw-lehnt-kondompflicht-fuer-prostituierte-ab, 2184,31602068. Html.
The draft for the reform of the Prostitution Act is published and the German "Bundeslänger" are to comment until September 3.
HB.
Hi,
I will be in Frankfurt for one day. Looking for value / budget FKK's or partytreffs. So far I know only of FKK Dietzenbach which has great reviews. Can anyone suggest any other places?
ThanksWhich day of the week would help get some replies? In town for one entire day or just a few hours at night or in the morning? Did you buy the airfare or did the company provide it for you? If the company bought the ticket, why not splurge and visit a top tier club?
Banana Boi
08-28-15, 20:15
As I said before, let's wait and see. And don't panic. Absolutely agree. Look at the panic earlier this year when guys thought they were going to lose AO. Has anything changed? I don't follow AO clubs closely but I don't believe so.
No idea how they would enforce the use of condoms for AO or BBBJ anyways unless undercover cops are going to randomly open room doors to check.
So now for a different topic. Does anyone know a FKK girl personally?
I've been going to FKKs more frequently, and have gotten to know some of the girls and some of the regulars, and have been fascinated by the kind of lives these girls lead.
I've gotten an idea from chatting to some regulars, but that's only made me more curious. I know some are in this business because they're single moms. One regular even told me he hung out with one FKK girl off the clock, and it sounded like she was angling for a ring from him. This particular girl was by no means a superstar though.
I know the girls from the poorer countries are sometimes compelled, sometimes there on their own accord, just to work. I can kind of imagine their lives, or that their lives are way too foreign for me to comprehend.
I can imagine their workaday life in the FKK dorms, and then getting on a plane to go home, but I have no idea what their high flying lives in Bucharest might be like, much less going back to their impoverished farm towns.
How about those girls from more developed countries though? I've been wondering what life is like for a girl like the famous and long-departed Marie of Oase.
I have to admit that I've been thinking of this because I've gotten close to a few of these girls from more developed countries. I've had some flush times and spent well in the rooms, and they show me a good time and start to show an interest in me as more than a john. I can tell form the questions they ask, and I am tempted to expand on that relationship too.
I know, this is dangerous ground I'm treading. I remember Hessen Bub's warning to me from way back, that all they are selling is fantasy. I guess after hearing guys' complaints about bad service and getting quite the opposite, I tend to forget this. It's only natural as a human to want to develop ties.
On the other hand, few things in life bring me as much pleasure as the times I spend with these girls, and I'm tempted to just retire and spend the rest of my life doing that! But just because it feels good may not be enough reason to make it a life's ambition. A drug addict might say the same.
So I've been forced to ask myself, "what would life really be like with them?" And the answer is, I really don't know. I've been with strippers in the United States, and they can lead pretty standard lives, maybe using their money to support a sleazy rocker boyfriend on the side.
But the strippers in the USA Don't live in dorms for months at a time and go home for another two weeks. That's all very foreign to me. I can't imagine living like that.
I'd get bored both ways -- working in an FKK during my working hours, and hanging out in a dorm when I wasn't? What would I do? Read, study, watch TV? There's so much more to life. Or is it not too different from college -- I'm just so old I forget how that goes?
And then to have a week or ten days off, what would I do then? If I lived my life in a dorm, my ties with the mainstream would wouldn't be as strong, and I would have less to do.
I can understand why the girls from the poor countries and the single moms do this kind of work. They have their social ties elsewhere and a powerful reason to make a lot of money. But what of the girls that don't appear to fit this category?
Anyone have any insight?
As I said before, let's wait and see. And don't panic. It's not effective yet, for example the Secretary of State for Health in NRW just stated that she is against a requirement to use condoms as it can't be enforced.
http://www.express.de/politik-wirtschaft/-pure-symbolpolitik--nrw-lehnt-kondompflicht-fuer-prostituierte-ab, 2184,31602068. Html.
The draft for the reform of the Prostitution Act is published and the German "Bundeslnger" are to comment until September 3.
HB.Man,
This almost stopped my heart LOL There has been no news for past few decades for me that is as eye catching than this no BBBJ law may pass news.
I am not activist type and never will protest, but with this no BBBJ issue. The thought of me protesting with those flags and speakers and drums came across my mind LOL.
Let keep eyes on this as it affect our quality of life.
Hi folks,
I am very familiar with FKK clubs but never been to an AO club before, I am only interested to watch not to participate as it turns me on to see girl banged without condom.
What club would you recommend with plenty of public action? Also a club that is friendly towards colored people please?
Thanks in advance.
Jim
Jmioffe. I can see you have thought really hard about the question. My response as a partner of an exworker, and friend of a couple, is perhaps disappointing since the only word to describe them is "normal". Of course normal can encompass every known behaviour but workers from affluent countries will tend either to be emotionally needy , grossly chaotic, or making extremely rational balance career choices. Of course I am generalising from only a very limited personal experience.
Anyone have any insight?No one has insight because.
1. Every girl is different.
2. Every guy is different.
3. Every session or talk or even relationship is different.
That means answers aren't really helpful you must make your own expierence.
No one has insight because.
1. Every girl is different.
2. Every guy is different.
3. Every session or talk or even relationship is different.
That means answers aren't really helpful you must make your own expierence.Come on, we are talking paysex here. 90% of the girls give the same service to 90% of the guys.
PussyLiccker
08-30-15, 16:02
Come on, we are talking paysex here. 90% of the girls give the same service to 90% of the guys.I dunno how you arrived at those stats besides the fact that it's paysex. But, you are right, paysex should be predictable from the fact that it's paid, but there is a element of unpredictability too. No way to know what happens in the room other than your own besides some info you get from reports. I don't make any conclusions about a girl based on posts, unless it's highly consistent. Although they are WGs, they are women still, not fuck machines. And of course you got money! Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac. There are differences in how much you spend on surprise, a WG.
There are variability since not every guy acts the same like Craiova pointed out, and of course the girl's response has variability too. Not all go in and do the same routine in a mechanical fashion although we hear about mechanical sessions. LOL.
Jmioffe. I can see you have thought really hard about the question. My response as a partner of an exworker, and friend of a couple, is perhaps disappointing since the only word to describe them is "normal". Of course normal can encompass every known behaviour but workers from affluent countries will tend either to be emotionally needy , grossly chaotic, or making extremely rational balance career choices. Of course I am generalising from only a very limited personal experience.About affluent countries, I have heard something of the sort that they get into the industry out of emotional need at a young age. I guess creates a sense of purpose or belonging. eg. biker gangs, jobs, whatnot. Of course you got part timers too, to make additional income, so not all fit this profile. I have also met a German mrs. that claims she goes out to Saunaclub for sex as her husband doesn't give enough(or at all?) and get some money for it. This all depends on what type of environment/situation they are at. What is in need is involved most definitely like the in-affluent countries with the women in need to financial stability or a monetary goal of some sort.
That's where the other 10% comes from. There definitely are differences etc, ect. But in most of the cases, most of the girls, give pretty much the same service to most of the guys. Sometimes you have a girl that is very different with each guy and sometimes you are the special guy that a girl is very different with. But those are the exceptions, most of the times you get exactly what the other guys get.
CDNTraveler
09-01-15, 03:30
So after reading these forums I have found:
1. Don't take the first offer you get or the first provider you see.
2. Watch out for sharks who aren't interested in anything but your money.
3. Talk with the girl about your expectations.
4. Stay a while for the price of admission. Don't just plan to stay for an hour or two. This isn't a North American style Strip Club.
5. Weekends can be busy, but mornings afternoon week days can be slow.
During my trip I am going to check out:
• Samya.
•*Dolce Vita.
•*World.
Possible:
•*Artemis.
•*Oceans.
One place I am curious about is Pascha complex in Koln. It seems to have more then just the hotel rooms of women, but a club as well. I haven't heard much about it on this forum. Unless I am looking at the wrong place.
Anything else?
Banana Boi
09-01-15, 05:37
During my trip I am going to check out:
Samya.
*Dolce Vita.
*World.
Possible:
*Artemis.
*Oceans.
One place I am curious about is Pascha complex in Koln.An odd selection of clubs. I assume you're traveling throughout Germany since these clubs are very far apart from one another.
Skip Laufhaus in Koln. Reports are awful there. If you're curious about something similar go to Vulkanstrasse in Duisburg.
CDNTraveler
09-01-15, 18:00
An odd selection of clubs. I assume you're traveling throughout Germany since these clubs are very far apart from one another.
Skip Laufhaus in Koln. Reports are awful there. If you're curious about something similar go to Vulkanstrasse in Duisburg.Yes, my travels are not FKK exclusive. I will be based out of Koln though.
So after reading these forums I have found:
1. Don't take the first offer you get or the first provider you see.
2. Watch out for sharks who aren't interested in anything but your money.
3. Talk with the girl about your expectations.
4. Stay a while for the price of admission. Don't just plan to stay for an hour or two. This isn't a North American style Strip Club.
5. Weekends can be busy, but mornings afternoon week days can be slow.
During my trip I am going to check out:
Samya.
*Dolce Vita.
*World.
Possible:
*Artemis.
*Oceans.
Remember one cum and your done, your paying for the time in the room until you cum. If two girls come up to you and offer a threesome, beware because prices become tricky to predict. If you like one of the girls, just tell the girl you like that you only see one girl at a time and like her. Force yourself to wait at least 30 minutes before choosing a girl, gives you time to get the heart rate under control. Bring a book, an mp3 player (be warned if your device has a camera), take a sauna etc. But keep an eye out for talent that you like. Don't worry too much about sharks, all girls want your money, if they don't want to chat for 3 minutes before asking to go to the room is when you excuse yourself. Stick to the bigger clubs (samya being the exception). And don't look like a stalker, smile and say Hello, when the girls come up to you and make sure to grab some titty and ass (just not the pussy) and say how much you like their bodies, tell them your not ready yet. Your turning them down but not closing the door on a future booty call.
That's where the other 10% comes from. There definitely are differences etc, ect. But in most of the cases, most of the girls, give pretty much the same service to most of the guys. Sometimes you have a girl that is very different with each guy and sometimes you are the special guy that a girl is very different with. But those are the exceptions, most of the times you get exactly what the other guys get.Thanks for the discussion, guys. Yeah, that sounds right, some of the girls are normal, or as normal as can be, and each girl's situation is different.
One thing that hasn't mentioned, that I picked up from the documentary on paysex in German that was discussed awhile back, is that for these girls, chastity is not quite as precious as it is in the outside world.
Sometimes they are free spirits, but more often, they may have had some kind of incident in their past that has devalued it for them. That may be the non-normal part. I don't mean to come off like a moralizer here, I enjoy the hobby as much as anyone, just thinking out loud a bit.
Nille Copenhagen
09-01-15, 22:32
So after reading these forums I have found:
1. Don't take the first offer you get or the first provider you see.
2. Watch out for sharks who aren't interested in anything but your money.
3. Talk with the girl about your expectations.
4. Stay a while for the price of admission. Don't just plan to stay for an hour or two. This isn't a North American style Strip Club.
5. Weekends can be busy, but mornings afternoon week days can be slow.
During my trip I am going to check out:Why would you visit DV and Oceans? There better clubs out there, Pascha is crap believe me. For me, I love the shark-challenges, it's only 50€ so it is worth trying, sometimes I turned a shark into a puppy, LOL.
Remember one cum and your done, your paying for the time in the room until you cum.Multiple pops have been standard for me at the FKKs. If the girl does anal, then once in the pussy and once in her asshole. If she doesn't do anal, then twice in the pussy. And if she really gets me going and knows how to suck dong, then I'll nut in her mouth too! This all "cums" with an important qualifier though. I am an hour-long session man, so this is what makes the difference. If you're only doing 30 minutes a session (which I rarely ever do) then one and done is more the standard. Although, if a girl really likes you and you can muster up the seed, you can probably bust in her twice in a 30 minute session also. But don't ever count on that happening! So, a bonus from hour-long sessions is that you get to nut twice my friends. And even three times if you have a "three-hole" starlet!
CDNTraveler
09-02-15, 03:25
Why would you visit DV and Oceans? There better clubs out there, Pascha is crap believe me. For me, I love the shark-challenges, it's only 50 so it is worth trying, sometimes I turned a shark into a puppy, LOL.Okay so Pascha is completely out. But Instead of DV and Oceans where would you go?
Well, maybe I am oldfashioned but I still expect the old service standard of paying for the time, regardless of whether I pop after 10 minutes or not at all. I make it quite clear that I expect my full thirty minutes and very very rarely get short time.
It's all about standards of service. The less one expects the less one is likely to get. And it shows self-respect to expect to be treated properly.
And no, I don't get the thirty minutes because I am rich, young, charismatic, handsome, and toned but simply because I am clear and not obnoxious.
Pop and Go in the RLD maybe. In FKK, never (if I can help it).
Okay so Pascha is completely out. But Instead of DV and Oceans where would you go?From your list it sounds like your planning the clubs based on the ease of reaching them via public transportation. Thats fine until you show up and the club sucks. If your in Berlin then Artemis is the place to go, if your traveling all the way to Berlin just to check out Artemis then I'd suggest spending more time visiting clubs vs wasting time in a train. On my next trip I plan on hitting Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan, World, Samya, Goldentime and Acapulco. Will probably repeat a few of those clubs based on the talent pool.
Jimmy Boy 99
09-02-15, 17:21
From your list it sounds like your planning the clubs based on the ease of reaching them via public transportation. Thats fine until you show up and the club sucks. If your in Berlin then Artemis is the place to go, if your traveling all the way to Berlin just to check out Artemis then I'd suggest spending more time visiting clubs vs wasting time in a train. On my next trip I plan on hitting Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan, World, Samya, Goldentime and Acapulco. Will probably repeat a few of those clubs based on the talent pool.No LR or PHG? Any reason?
Well, maybe I am oldfashioned but I still expect the old service standard of paying for the time, regardless of whether I pop after 10 minutes or not at all. I make it quite clear that I expect my full thirty minutes and very very rarely get short time.
It's all about standards of service. The less one expects the less one is likely to get. And it shows self-respect to expect to be treated properly.+ 1.
Best advice I have seen on ISG in a long time. And of course, it applies to all standard services.
Come on, we are talking paysex here. 90% of the girls give the same service to 90% of the guys.You can believe what you want, but if you think girls behave the same with so many easy clients, Asian, American, compare to locals or regulars, I was said by a Japanese, we was asked double rate for an extra and he paid because so afraid his blond dreamed girl won't want to go with him again, this same girl doesn't ask extra to Caucasian type, because she knows she will have problems, but not from easy clients who don't dare anything because they think they are lucky girls agree to go with them.
Nille Copenhagen
09-02-15, 23:19
Well, maybe I am oldfashioned but I still expect the old service standard of paying for the time, regardless of whether I pop after 10 minutes or not at all. I make it quite clear that I expect my full thirty minutes and very very rarely get short time.
It's all about standards of service. The less one expects the less one is likely to get. And it shows self-respect to expect to be treated properly..Well I often book 3-5 hours so I also expect the full hours. I don't have to make it clear, it comes naturally when you book long time as the girls are relaxed about the time. And because she also wanted to stay with me LOL.
CDNTraveler
09-03-15, 04:12
From your list it sounds like your planning the clubs based on the ease of reaching them via public transportation. Thats fine until you show up and the club sucks.Thank you for the heads up. I've made a map of the FKK clubs near me. Both Germany and FKK are new so your advice is very helpful.
No LR or PHG? Any reason?I didn't really like the layout of the Living Room from the photos and honestly didn't take a look a Happy Garden. I had to Google PHG. But I'm willing to give either one a shot on the advice of you guys.
PussyLiccker
09-03-15, 04:25
Okay so Pascha is completely out. But Instead of DV and Oceans where would you go?Limited to public transport? I would advice you to start with LR. Probably a good club for newbie to start out at the NRW. Samya is ok too if that's closer.
Carpe Viam
09-03-15, 10:05
this same girl doesn't ask extra to Caucasian type, because she knows she will have problems, It is difficult to show all your lies for lack of witnesses in most cases.
But this time, it is very easy. Just look LustScout, the Germans pay the extras. The Germans are not Caucasians for you? LOL.
Sacred liar.
Well I often book 3-5 hours so I also expect the full hours. I don't have to make it clear, it comes naturally when you book long time as the girls are relaxed about the time. And because she also wanted to stay with me LOL.Yes, I often book long sessions and then the question of short timing never arises.
I didn't really like the layout of the Living Room from the photos and honestly didn't take a look a Happy Garden. I had to Google PHG. But I'm willing to give either one a shot on the advice of you guys.The layout of both is odd. If you want a club where you can sit and watch from a strategic position then LR bar is best. If you want to walk around without going back and forwards then PHG is better. In both cases the weather improves the options a lot. Food at PHG is quite restricted in comparison to LR. The staff at LR are very customer orientated, which might make a difference for you
LR is easier with public transport than PHG
Food at PHG is quite restricted in comparison to LR.That ist totally wrong. The other facts are okay.
That ist totally wrong. The other facts are okay.OK, maybe I just hit a very very bad day on my last visit to PHG. I stand corrected.
PussyLiccker
09-04-15, 02:04
That ist totally wrong. The other facts are okay.Well, based on my visits to PHG, the food is served at a certain time for dinner (for a period) after the breakfast period. In that sense this is the restriction in time when the food is served. I know that food is served longer period at LR. PHG will start up the grill after dinner if there is BBQ being served. I've gone to LR during the day since LR and GT started serving food during the day, but their blog shows that there is food being served during the day and night like the GT blog. I know GT serves food for a long period.
To be more exact:
Breakfast time in PHG is from 11 o'clock am to (at least) 3 o'clock pm.
Dinner time is from 6 o'clock pm to (about) 9 o'clock pm.
BBQ time is from 6 o'clock pm to (at least) 3 o'clock in the morning (at the weekend even longer).
Some times after the end of the BBQ there is still served pizza.
I don't know any other club with such extended mealtimes.
Additionally there are fruits served around the clock, on hot days also ice cream.
On Mondays the motto is "Gambas all you can eat" (+ red wine).
PHG is the club with the most different, free drinks (more than 10 types of beer).
PussyLiccker
09-04-15, 14:33
Here's LR's according to the website:
- * breakfast buffet with various Brunch specialties (11.00 15.00 clock).
* cake buffet (15.00 clock).
* (15.00 - 17.30 clock) Lunch <- new!
* Front Cooking / BBQ (18:00 - 23.00 clock) <! - Attention!
* Italian Pizza (0. 00 clock).
There is not much break in between brunch and dinner compared to PHG. Of course if there is the BBQ at PHG, it's more extended. Which is extended depends on if BBQ is served.
Magnum is alacarte up to 2:30 in the morning. And then, you got buffet running all the time.
Of course if there is the BBQ at PHG, it's more extended. Which is extended depends on if BBQ is served.About 364 days / year (not on 24.12. because the club is closed).
Magnum is alacarte up to 2:30 in the morning. And then, you got buffet running all the time.
That is in reality not working very well. Sometimes you have to wait nearly one hour.
PHG is the club with the most different, free drinks (more than 10 types of beer).Goldentime has a ton of beers, the cooler outside has around 10 different beers alone and the inside bar has another 4 or so. But the problem with visiting clubs that are known to serve beer and alcohol is the police checkpoints. One of the reasons I prefer clubs that close at 4 or 5am, I can stay well past the time most checkpoints are still going on.
Folks.
Thanks for many advises. I recently visited FKK ROM, Point, Royal and NIght & Day. I spent 5-6 hours when I visit FKK and do 3 sessions. Many a times, I cum in 3-5 minutes and the girls wind up. Don't know what to do. Its not ROI. Language becomes a problem and cannot tell them properly that I want more of foreplay. I want foreplay for 15 minutes but the girls normally start BJ immediately and I cum fast. Any advice?
Can you guys recommend "english friendly" FKKs near Frankfurt? (Is Oase better?
Folks.
Thanks for many advises. I recently visited FKK ROM, Point, Royal and NIght & Day. I spent 5-6 hours when I visit FKK and do 3 sessions. Many a times, I cum in 3-5 minutes and the girls wind up. Don't know what to do. Its not ROI. Language becomes a problem and cannot tell them properly that I want more of foreplay. I want foreplay for 15 minutes but the girls normally start BJ immediately and I cum fast. Any advice?
Can you guys recommend "english friendly" FKKs near Frankfurt? (Is Oase better?I had good GFE hour with small blond Teodora. Ro at Point, very good surprise.
My advice: Mainhattan before 1 pm, entry 45 , I will be tomorrow but I will have to work on engine on my 600 kilometers way, and Sharks on Sunday before 2 pm, entry 45 , girls are more friendly than in Oase.
At Mainhattan: dark blond Irena. Ro, very slim Dana. Ro.
At Sharks: blond Sandra. De, blond Patricia. Mold, Elli, blond super look Karine, brunette Moira.
Here's LR's according to the website:
* (15.00 - 17.30 clock) Lunch <- new!At 16:50 they only had soup available.
* Front Cooking / BBQ (18:00 - 23.00 clock) <! - Attention!Front cooking good, BBQ terrible they should reduce the entry price during grill season.
* Italian Pizza (0. 00 clock).Worst pizza ever.
Banana Boi
09-04-15, 22:37
Can you guys recommend "english friendly" FKKs near Frankfurt? (Is Oase better?In general, the girls at the larger FKK's in both Hessen and NRW speak much better English. I believe one of the requirements at GT for the Romanians is they can converse well in English.
Banana Boi
09-04-15, 22:40
On Mondays the motto is "Gambas all you can eat" (+ red wine).PHG girls go crazy over Gambas night. Guess they make the girls horny.
Nille Copenhagen
09-04-15, 23:54
WTF: are you going to clubs for food or for fuck. Fuck the food, I don't even have time to eat, better eat some pussies LOL. If I eat too much I can't fuck so much.
WTF: are you going to clubs for food or for fuck. Fuck the food, I don't even have time to eat, better eat some pussies LOL. If I eat too much I can't fuck so much.I enjoy sex more when I'm not hungry.
WTF: are you going to clubs for food or for fuck. Fuck the food, I don't even have time to eat, better eat some pussies LOL. If I eat too much I can't fuck so much.When you get a bit older, you are not going around like a fuck monkey no more, you will appreciate the ability for furniture to relax on and good food when you want it.
Nille Copenhagen
09-05-15, 18:25
When you get a bit older, you are not going around like a fuck monkey no more, you will appreciate the ability for furniture to relax on and good food when you want it.I had furniture and a bed to relax in the rooms with a girl, if we become hungry we put the time on standby and go out and grab some food, then get back to the room for more fun, last month at Oase, I was with a girl.
For an extended session. We started with a few hours of fun, started in the garden, then the kino, moved over to a room. Then we took a break, we ate together, had a coffee break for me / smoking break for her.
After that we continued the fun in the room, we spend about 4. 5 hours together, the breaks / couch time was not included.
I had furniture and a bed to relax in the rooms with a girl, if we become hungry we put the time on standby and go out and grab some food, then get back to the room for more fun, last month at Oase, I was with a girl. Then we took a break, we ate together, had a coffee break for me / smoking break for her.You were saying that you had no time to eat or were concerned about eating so you are making contradicting statements.
Nille Copenhagen
09-05-15, 21:34
You were saying that you had no time to eat or were concerned about eating so you are making contradicting statements.What I'm saying is food in the clubs is not so critical for me. I can eat before clubbing or after, or grab something in the club, but my main goal is to fuck and have fun, food has low priorities.
You guys sound like you expect gourmet quality for the entrance price.
CDNTraveler
09-05-15, 23:04
In both cases the weather improves the options a lot.Typically what is the weather like in late September / Early October?
Might fancy a romp outside if the weather is still decent.
Banana Boi
09-06-15, 03:21
Typically what is the weather like in late September / Early October?
Might fancy a romp outside if the weather is still decent.15-25 C in the day, 10-15 C at night.
One of my most memorable sessions ever was dragging Jean-shorts Amelia at Oase outside in almost 0 C. We were both freezing our arses off.
Delta Indigo
09-11-15, 13:34
Hi everyone,
I haven't been to the Hesse Clubs yet, but I have been over NRW a lot. I wanted to compose / uncover an authoritative list of true FKKs (Fully Nude) clubs in NRW?
Earlier someone had written that the only true FKKs are Babylon in Elsdorf and FKK Bernds.
However I must add to this list, these are two clubs I haven't been to, so I am soliciting comments about this.
1. Babylon. Elsdorf.
2. Bernds (mentioned by someone else).
3. Great Palace in Caustrop. Rauxel.
4. Freudenbergstrasse 39 in Bochum (that is what their website suggests).
Does everyone agree with this list? Are their any major ones I left of or does anything thing that 2, 3 or 4 shouldn't be here?
1. Babylon. Elsdorf.If I get there, I'll post an update.
2. Bernds (mentioned by someone else).It's the original FKK but not like the current bunch, I believe it's just a house. I hope to visit there next week so I can update you.
3. Great Palace in Caustrop. Rauxel.I've not heard this before. I hope to check it out tomorrow but after hearing how quiet Living Room was last week, I might be stopping there instead and try GP later.
4. Freudenbergstrasse 39 in Bochum (that is what their website suggests).There's naked girls, a kino, some food and a sauna, is that enough?
Delta Indigo
09-11-15, 19:56
There's naked girls, a kino, some food and a sauna, is that enough?As long as they are fully nude, panty less, yes.
I enjoy sex more when I'm not hungry.I am also same kind of person an that is why I can't loose that 10 kg extra weight.
I also need to eat something after sex because sugar in blood decreases immediately.
I am usually OK with the food in fkks but none of them can compete with GT Bruggen.
It is really high class.
Regards.
What is happening to this big new FKK opening in potsdam?
They changed the name and site once again as below:
http://great-palace.com/neu/
Is this place already opened? If so, are LU of this place good or?
It looks like building is already done?
Banana Boi
09-12-15, 17:53
Great Palace isn't new. Had it on my TDL for some time. Hopefully some recent interest on the "Other FKK Clubs" thread will have someone TOFTT and write a review.
Hessen Bub
09-12-15, 17:58
What is happening to this big new FKK opening in potsdam?
They changed the name and site once again as below:
http://great-palace.com/neu/
Is this place already opened? If so, are LU of this place good or?
It looks like building is already done?The website you posted belongs to a club in NRW. No idea what happened to the FKK in Potsdam, probably the same success story as the new airport.
HB.
The website you posted belongs to a club in NRW. No idea what happened to the FKK in Potsdam, probably the same success story as the new airport.
HB.OK, my bad I mean, this big FKK project in Potsdam changed the name several times and I got confused. (First it was Grand Palais, then grand Palace, then now who knows what it called.).
However, this FKK in potsdam was supposed to open last October in 2014, but it seems it did not and ever since then, there has been no news about it, though it was being constructed.
Maybe you are right Mr HB, it just being so delayed like airport in Berlin.
It will be nice to have other big FKK in Berlin area soon though.
I guess since construction began few years ago, it will open when it is done one day.
I am usually ok with the food in fkks but none of them can compete with GT bruggen.
It is really high class.
Why do you think it's really high class? Because you sit on wooden banks and you queue to be served like at army barracks?
Why do you think it's really high class? Because you sit on wooden banks and you queue to be served like at army barracks?Come on! It is a garden. I say it because quality of foods.
PussyLiccker
09-14-15, 05:23
Why do you think it's really high class? Because you sit on wooden banks and you queue to be served like at army barracks?No more queue like 2-3 years ago when they served for couple hours for dinner. Now they serve for extended period with the different offering throughout day and night. Like Iceberg says, the food is good quality. I remember when the tiny deli container was located in the most awkward spot in the freakin lounge! Right near the bar in mist the crowds. I remember asking where the breakfast was and somebody pointed at the thing. Now they have cooked your way eggs/omlette with fancy types of rolled meat variety, a deli section, cake section, two juices, apple and orange, and of course different types of breads.
Here a menu they post to give an idea of what they serve. http://blog.goldentime.de/
Come on! It is a garden.
Yeah, the tables are like what you find at biergarten.
No more queue like 2-3 years ago when they served for couple hours for dinner. Now they serve for extended period with the different offering throughout day and night. Like Iceberg says, the food is good quality. I remember when the tiny deli container was located in the most awkward spot in the freakin lounge! Right near the bar in mist the crowds. I remember asking where the breakfast was and somebody pointed at the thing. Now they have cooked your way eggs/omlette with fancy types of rolled meat variety, a deli section, cake section, two juices, apple and orange, and of course different types of breads.FKK Oase is not bad for food and coffee. I like the pasta dishes and pizza, but for pizza you got to pay. However, they do quite good pasta for FKK. Being Italian owner explain why!
FKK Artemis should reflect a bit on owners culture and serve some Turkish dish, like kebab, I would not mind if they charge extra for kebab like they charge extra for pizza in Oase.
I am there to fuck, but good food and coffee is plus as I stay quite long hours at FKK.
Is coffee good for sex though??
Let's get real here. Food in GT can be quite decent, but often enough the cooks mess things up as well. In any case it doesn't really compare well with clubs that offer a la carte service (included in the price), like Magnum and Oceans. Most of the time the A la carte in Babylon is better as well.
What summer bbq is concerned, Sakura is the standard. I've also heard good things about the food in Flamingo Island and some other clubs in that area (but I've never been).
The breakfast omelettes in GT are great though, only rivaled by sister club LR. They also have made to order eggs in Samya, but for some reason it often isn't that good.
My personal favorite FKK meal however, is the chinese food in Sharks. But it seems they've stopped with that. It wasn't available this Saturday and a fairly new girl didn't know what I was talking about (as in hadn't seen it yet).
Hessen Bub
09-14-15, 08:53
My personal favorite FKK meal however, is the chinese food in Sharks. But it seems they've stopped with that. It wasn't available this Saturday and a fairly new girl didn't know what I was talking about (as in hadn't seen it yet).Was available when I visited last week.
HB.
Jimmy Boy 99
09-14-15, 11:20
My personal favorite FKK meal however, is the chinese food in Sharks. But it seems they've stopped with that. It wasn't available this Saturday and a fairly new girl didn't know what I was talking about (as in hadn't seen it yet).The Chinese food was served in the area where they normally serve the non-Chinese food. In fact, it was seemingly all Chinese food, and far more extensive than the stuff they normally serve. How did you miss it? Did you not eat all?
Nille Copenhagen
09-14-15, 11:29
Let's get real here. Food in GT can be quite decent, but often enough the cooks mess things up as well. In any case it doesn't really compare well with clubs that offer a la carte service (included in the price), like Magnum and Oceans. Most of the time the A la carte in Babylon is better as well.
What summer bbq is concerned, Sakura is the standard. I've also heard good things about the food in Flamingo Island and some other clubs in that area (but I've never been).
The breakfast omelettes in GT are great though, only rivaled by sister club LR. They also have made to order eggs in Samya, but for some reason it often isn't that good.
My personal favorite FKK meal however, is the chinese food in Sharks. But it seems they've stopped with that. It wasn't available this Saturday and a fairly new girl didn't know what I was talking about (as in hadn't seen it yet).PSR had good a la carte menu, how it it nowadays? I haven't been there for a while, ex-Haus Panthera (ACA-G) had also good food, but they had removed the a la carte option last time I was there and replaced it with a buffet of less quality.
I forgot about PSR! The last time I was there it wasn't as good as it used to be, but still pretty decent. The a la carte in Panthera used to be my favorite, but in Aca Gold it is more like acapulco (and not a la carte). Not bad really, but definitely not good either.
For Sharks: good to hear the Chines is still there. Saturday I did have the noodles, but none of the "meats" matched well (noodles with gulash anyone? Later at night it was just rice or potatoes with chicken or chopped liver (really! I didn't see the sauces and chicken they usually have when you take the chinese food. Could be I just timed my food breaks badly.
Nille Copenhagen
09-14-15, 19:10
No more food talk, let's talk about the girls LOL.
I'm going to Sharks, Oase and World soon which girls should test drive?
Thanks
My grain of salt: the best FKK for free food is, beside Sakura, Paradise Stuttgart. Maybe Paradise doesn't want to lag behind Sakura in that respect since Sakura is a direct competitor.
Banana Boi
09-14-15, 22:19
I forgot about PSR! The last time I was there it wasn't as good as it used to be, but still pretty decent. Last time I was at PSR I had 3 steaks a la carte, one every 2 hours or so. Obviously not restaurant quality but very tasty after sex. A nice huge comfortable eating area. Also very friendly staff. Now if only the girls came!
I still like Magnum's a la carte but hate the tiny eating area and how hot it gets in there.
Just home last night from my trip to Germany. Another great experience. I love the FKK experience. It's certainly not like anything you experience anywhere else. You see some interesting stuff. Some strange behaviour from both customers & the girls.
On this trip I visited Acapulco, Mainhattan, Oase, World, Sharks and then completed the trip with a wonderful visit to Nylon Cafe. That's a place well worth a visit for those who haven't been. Different experience to the clubs but most enjoyable. Report here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3541-Cologne-Koln.-Nyloncafe-%28NC%29.
Acapulco was the only new club for me. I think that though I had a good time I think in future I will stick to clubs where girls are nude, though I will probably visit Samya again. Five days in Germany and apart from breakfast in the hotels I didn't spend a cent on food or drink. Had some nice food, some mediocre food & some pretty bad food in the clubs.
Some funny episodes. In Mainhattan there was an Asian guy running through the club being chased by a girl. By about the third time passing through the bar the girl was walking and looking a bit embarassed. Everyone watching and a lot of laughing. I assume this was some sort of role playing and the guy was getting off on this. In Sharks on Sunday a guy with two girls hung towels over the rails upstairs near one of the jacuzzis and proceeded to put on a show. Some men and some of the girls headed upstairs to get a better view.
Had some great sex and some okay sex. All with lovely girls so all good. Some interesting conversations with girls, both in the room and with others just sitting at the bars. Nice conversation with Emmanuelle at Sharks who says she's from Guadaloupe. She was surprised I knew where it was. She said most men she says that too don't know where it is. I said I heard most also don't believe her. She laughed and said yes, they think because I'm black I come from Africa. She said she doesn't care where people think she's from as this is all a fantasy world both for the men & the girls. She said if they don't like my name or where I come from they can call me something else and say I'm from wherever! Very open attitude too. Asked if I wanted to go to the room but tell her if she wasn't my type. Most girls seem to think all men will be attracted to them. Emmanuelle obviously realises we all won't be interested in her.
Can't wait until I get the next chance to go mongering in Germany!
Jim57. Thanks for summarising so well why I love FKKs. Seeing people when they show their real selves, even when it's a fantasy inside their heads.
And as you say, by and large, the girls are remarkably nice, beyond the requirements of the job, if you are pleasant to them.
Jim57. Thanks for summarising so well why I love FKKs. Seeing people when they show their real selves, even when it's a fantasy inside their heads.
And as you say, by and large, the girls are remarkably nice, beyond the requirements of the job, if you are pleasant to them.Considering what they have to do it's quite remarkable how nice the majority of them are. Okay I know there may be an element of them knowing they have to be nice to get the work but still. All about respect really. I respect them and yes generally I get respect back.
Really enjoyed a couple of the chats I had with girls. Nice to get an insight into some of the stuff going on in their heads about the work they do and the way they see us their customers. Some of this in conversations at the bar and some in the room after the session time had expired.
If I get generic viagra or levitra and put it in my bad and in my toiletries bag will customs confiscate it or search my bag? Has anyone ever had any experience with that? What if I just wrap it in a pharmacy bag and put it with a prescription for something else. Maybe the customs person can't read english?
I prolly can't get a prescription as I have a body like a greek god and no doctor would believe I have low testosterone or diabetes.
If I get generic viagra or levitra and put it in my bad and in my toiletries bag will customs confiscate it or search my bag? Has anyone ever had any experience with that? What if I just wrap it in a pharmacy bag and put it with a prescriptionAFAIK you can bring generic viagra or levitra for your personal use without any problem through German customs. Only if you have a large number of pills with you maybe more than 100 pills than you can get problems.
Hessen Bub
09-16-15, 12:34
Maybe the customs person can't read english?
I wouldn't rely on that, no matter what you are bringing into the country, they will speak English. LOL.
HB.
Just home last night from my trip to Germany. Another great experience. I love the FKK experience. It's certainly not like anything you experience anywhere else. You see some interesting stuff. Some strange behaviour from both customers & the girls.
Can't wait until I get the next chance to go mongering in Germany!I totally agree. Since I discovered FKK, I have hard time going anywhere-else but German FKK for holiday. I love the sex, but somehow, I love being there, being in that crazy un-usual place. So many dramas, so many funny stories, it feels like being back in high school and being main bar of FKK makes me relax, makes me feel like I am where I am supposed to be.
I wouldn't rely on that, no matter what you are bringing into the country, they will speak English. LOL.
HB.Wait, so it is a problem or not?
MrManGuy. Really no need to worry. It's not like trying to enter the US.
If I get generic viagra or levitra and put it in my bad and in my toiletries bag will customs confiscate it or search my bag? Has anyone ever had any experience with that? What if I just wrap it in a pharmacy bag and put it with a prescription for something else. Maybe the customs person can't read english?
The patent on Sildenafil expired in Europe as well so you're welcome to bring in any Sildenafil generics in any reasonable quantity. They may fine you if you bring counterfeit Cialis or Levitra though, but you're OK if it's the genuine (patented) product. For non psychotropic drugs only the counterfeiting issue may be a source of trouble.
If I get generic viagra or levitra and put it in my bad and in my toiletries bag will customs confiscate it or search my bag? Has anyone ever had any experience with that? What if I just wrap it in a pharmacy bag and put it with a prescription for something else. Maybe the customs person can't read english?
I've never had any issue with bringing see or V into any country. Personally I don't make it easy for them to get to it but I don't hide it. I won't put it in the liquid zip lock bag, that's too easy for them to spot since you have to pull it out. I also take it out of the foil and put it in a tic tac container to make it less noticeable.
UShobbyist
09-18-15, 00:56
If I get generic viagra or levitra and put it in my bad and in my toiletries bag will customs confiscate it or search my bag? Has anyone ever had any experience with that? What if I just wrap it in a pharmacy bag and put it with a prescription for something else. Maybe the customs person can't read english?
I prolly can't get a prescription as I have a body like a greek god and no doctor would believe I have low testosterone or diabetes.There is no customs in German airport. It's called passport control in German airport. They just scan your passport and ask you a few routine questions about your trip. They never search anybody.
UltraHappy
09-18-15, 01:09
There is no customs in German airport. It's called passport control in German airport. They just scan your passport and ask you a few routine questions about your trip. They never search anybody.Actually, upon entering the Schengen area and after picking up your bags, you must exit the baggage claim area. Their are two exits, one for "nothing to declare" and one for "something to declare. ".
The "nothing to declare" exit is often unmanned, so you just walk though. Sometimes, it is manned. When it is manned, they pull certain people aside at random and may search their luggage. They are looking for meats, cheeses, and other prohibited items. I don't think they are looking for meds. In any case, you have a really low risk of being selected and searched. I wouldn't worry about importing any of these vitamins.
Hessen Bub
09-18-15, 08:24
There is no customs in German airport.Sure there's customs in German airports. Whenever you are not arriving with a domestic or EU flight you wil have to go through customs, green or red exit.
HB.
Sure there's customs in German airports. Whenever you are not arriving with a domestic or EU flight you wil have to go through customs, green or red exit.
HB.Exactly so. They are very unobtrusive but it doesn't mean they don't take it seriously. However they stop very very few people, and work I suspect work on an intelligence led basis. No need to worry.
UltraHappy is also correct. The exits are not usually visibly staffed
UShobbyist
09-18-15, 22:26
Sure there's customs in German airports. Whenever you are not arriving with a domestic or EU flight you wil have to go through customs, green or red exit.
HB.I did not make myself clear. There are customs in German airports but the passengers do not need to fill out customs' forms and don't need to go through customs. The passengers do need to go through passport control if this flight is a transatlantic flight. If I change flight at Amsterdam, I don't need to go through anything and I can go directly to the regional train station (S-8 or S-9).
Hessen Bub
09-18-15, 22:43
I did not make myself clear. There are customs in German airports but the passengers do not need to fill out customs' forms and don't need to go through customs. Every passenger arriving from outside the EU has to go through customs. Even if it is just taking the green unmanned exit. If you take the green exit you gave a declaration that you have nothing to declare. If they stop you and find something you should have declared you will have to pay a fine.
HB.
As longstanding members will know, I appreciate it when I find a special girl.
But there's always a price to pay. After a long session early in the day, the girl was very reluctant to let me go without more sex at the end of the day, and was quite disturbed at my suggestion to talk, massage and schmusen instead. She refused to let me pay for couch time so we then went to a room. She then basically refused to leave the room and lay in the way that she knows I am completely a slave to, and indicated that she was a little upset. I had to promise that I would make sex with her the next day. After the session she disappeared for the first time ever into the shower for an impossibly long time. So, goodness knows what is in her head. The only thing I'm sure of is that she will very quickly forget about it.
Sometimes there is a lot more going on in workers' heads than I can understand. . The trouble with being a regular is that some kind of relationship always gets established. I don't mind friendship but emotional needs I could do without.
Or maybe she thinks that nonstop sex is the only way to secure my repeat custom.
On the plus side, an exworker who I know and value used to be highly unstable about her relationship with me has over time become much more emotionally stable, and it is nice to see that she regards me as a friend, without all the confusions around sex.
I just make these comments as I know other members have experiences and maybe it's helpful just to share what happens a bit, so nobody thinks it is just them.
UltraHappy
09-19-15, 00:07
I did not make myself clear. There are customs in German airports but the passengers do not need to fill out customs' forms and don't need to go through customs. The passengers do need to go through passport control if this flight is a transatlantic flight. If I change flight at Amsterdam, I don't need to go through anything and I can go directly to the regional train station (S-8 or S-9).Every time I enter the Schengen area, I go through passport control (one line for EU passports and one line for all passports). Then, I get my bags at baggage claim, after which I exit through one of the Custom's exits and in so doing, make a declaration that I have nothing to declare or that I do have something to declare by which I exit I choose.
Perhaps you are referring to flights that are within the Schengen area? Yes, if you fly from France to Germany, then there is no passport control or customs. You are correct if that is what you are referring to. But if you are referring to flights that actually enter the Schengen area the first time, then all those passengers must pass through both passport control and customs. All of us international visitors to Germany experience this every time we visit Germany in fact.
Member #4581
09-19-15, 01:13
I am no expert in either FKK matters, human psychology, working girl behaviour, etc. , so take this w / a grain of salt. But girls fuck with your mind, best ignore it. That is not to say they are not human beings, or that they can't fall for a guy, they can't form emotional bonds etc. But the odds are against it. In the club, they fuck hundreds if not thousands of guys in a year. Is it likely that you somehow stood out in some special way? And if so, why? How would you know she is not faking it? Does she go out of her way to do you favors, such as give free extras, or even free sessions? Almost always never happens, in fact the opposite, the WG is looking for favors from men.
I have my own little experience. Once she knew she was my top girl, Roxana (Sharks) used to act like she was jealous of me seeing other girls. Then she began asking for small things, like more tips. When I visited her a few weeks before Christmas, she was upset I did not give her a Christmas gift. So, on my next visit, I gave her a decent gift - not super expensive, but not a simple box of candy either. Instead of being happy and thankful, she acted like it was nothing, and began pestering me with weird stuff like 3 some with her friends, and basically tried to milk me dry. Bad strategy on her part, as I did not take any session with her on my recent visit. In retrospect, I should have treated her more casually, and not given any hints that she was my top girl whatsoever.
Jnpr30. Yes you are right. I really don't care, but just mention it since when I was a newbie I would have fallen for her needs or manipulation completely so it is a good warning to new members. As I say, I am sure that ten minutes after I am gone she will have forgotten.
Yes she does me small favours, primarily very extended couch time, even when she has a queue of guests. The reason I stand out: I have taken her for some very long sessions. Maybe money comes into the equation LOL.
Your experience is more typical. Once a worker receives a tip or gift they very often start to angle for more and bigger. Sometimes they think that a guy who is nice to them is a fool.
Hessen Bub
09-19-15, 08:23
. Is it likely that you somehow stood out in some special way? And if so, why? How would you know she is not faking it? Does she go out of her way to do you favors, such as give free extras, or even free sessions? Almost always never happens, So IF she is doing you favors or meeting with you outside with no problems request for money that MIGHT be a sign that there's more than a normal WG -client relation.
HB.
What's the age difference?
If you travel from Colombia or Peru and your luggage is reported as not having been checked already in Amsterdam or Paris, cops in jeans and plain clothes will come out of the woodwork, believe me. Customs would not check for meds coming from the US since US law is even more restrictive than German one. It's a different thing if you come from med counterfeiting countries like Thailand.
What's the age difference?As you know, in my case it is always massive!
Over the years many workers have explained to me (and I don't mean ones of whom I am a regular guest or even a guest at all) that after a while working they become relatively immune to good looks, physique etc (as long as the guest is not gross) and are affected more by kindness. In fact they tend to be dismissive of immaturity (in a guest of any age). Of course my sample is selfselecting so is only a partial picture
Member #4581
09-19-15, 20:29
It all depends. Stores give out samples. A sample of wine sip, or a small chocolate or cheese piece, etc. In the hopes that customers consume a sample, like it, and buy the whole enchilada.
Are you being given a free sample, to entice you to buy the expensive product? It's for the punter to decide.
I can tell you, lots of times, I take free samples when I go to costco or some such store. Why not, it's free, and I did not make any commitment to buy any, not even a gentleman's agreement. Do I sometimes buy the product? Yes, but because the product was good, not out of obligation for having consumed the free sample.
So IF she is doing you favors or meeting with you outside with no problems request for money that MIGHT be a sign that there's more than a normal WG -client relation.
HB.
Member #4581
09-19-15, 20:43
BTW, we are talking percentages here. Is it possible a punter here or there can get lucky with a wG when they have some chemistry and connection, yes. Is it likely when you have hundreds of transactions happening on a daily basis?
So IF she is doing you favors or meeting with you outside with no problems request for money that MIGHT be a sign that there's more than a normal WG -client relation.
HB.
As you know, in my case it is always massive!
Over the years many workers have explained to me (and I don't mean ones of whom I am a regular guest or even a guest at all) that after a while working they become relatively immune to good looks, physique etc (as long as the guest is not gross) and are affected more by kindness. In fact they tend to be dismissive of immaturity (in a guest of any age). Of course my sample is selfselecting so is only a partial picture From all the gibberish you wrote in the post above, ONE word strikes to the heart of the issue. What word you ask? Workers. They are sex workers, not girlfriends. Romantic idea's should be left at home when dealing with women of the night (or daytime if you can't stay up past 8pm).
From all the gibberish you wrote in the post above, ONE word strikes to the heart of the issue. What word you ask? Workers. They are sex workers, not girlfriends. Romantic idea's should be left at home when dealing with women of the night (or daytime if you can't stay up past 8pm).
For the sake of clarity and civility.
I merely repeated what some workers who had no self interest have told me, gibberish or not. Yes, the key word is "workers": after all, I used it.
I have no romantic ideas, except that workers are people too, not 19th century "hands", or in current discussion, "pussies".
My previous posts didn't imply romantic ideas but the opposite: to write something relevant to anyone with romantic illusions. I wish I had kept quiet.
Are you being given a free sample, to entice you to buy the expensive product? It's for the punter to decide.
I can tell you, lots of times, I take free samples when I go to costco or some such store. Why not, it's free, and I did not make any commitment to buy any, not even a gentleman's agreement. Do I sometimes buy the product? Yes, but because the product was good, not out of obligation for having consumed the free sample.Exactly right. Normally it is a good business practice by a shrewd worker.
The point is to realise it, and not to develop any illusions. As you say, the punter has to decide. If it is not business practice but an emotional issue, then I prefer to do without it
By the way, the girl about whom I was talking, had recovered her equilibrium today, and brushed her reaction away with a wave of the hand, an expressive face, and a statement that she had had a brief internal confusion, of no lasting consequence. A good professional recovery
BTW, we are talking percentages here. Is it possible a punter here or there can get lucky with a wG when they have some chemistry and connection, yes. Is it likely when you have hundreds of transactions happening on a daily basis?Again, exactly right. In meeting hundreds of workers there will be some who can't bear a particular customer, some who like him, and a very few (maybe 1%?)who experience and then choose to develop a connection of some sort
I know one isg member who had a much higher rate, maybe 5 or 10%, and who has stopped posting because of the derision he got from other isg members. I saw for myself that he was in no way exaggerating about the workers' relationships with him
So IF she is doing you favors or meeting with you outside with no problems request for money that MIGHT be a sign that there's more than a normal WG -client relation.
HB.Yes: and unless one very definitely has the ability to handle it, as I think you do, well avoided.
I know one isg member who had a much higher rate, maybe 5 or 10%, and who has stopped posting because of the derision he got from other isg members. I saw for myself that he was in no way exaggerating about the workers' relationships with himAnything is possible but there's one truth in developing relationships with the girls, you have to be at the clubs very frequently and spend alot of money. In the last few years I've been doing mainly month long trips to Thailand and when you get the girls chat apps they tend to try to monopolize your time. If anyone was to visit a club twice a week for weeks on end, it would be easy to develop 'relationships'. But as soon as you stopped spending money on them and fucking their friends instead, that relationship wouldn't last very long.
Hessen Bub
09-20-15, 11:36
It all depends. Stores give out samples. A sample of wine sip, or a small chocolate or cheese piece, etc. In the hopes that customers consume a sample, like it, and buy the whole enchilada.
A sample is worth a fraction of the product or service being sold to you. So if a girl spends a few nights with you for free including hours and hours of sex I wouldn't call that sampling.
HB.
I hope we're not going to hear stories of girls not being able to return to their job in Germany because of what's happening right now at borders. The feminazis would be glad to turn FKKs into refugee barracks.
Regarding developping a relationship with a girl, any such incipient relationship I've had entailed paying more and missing new girls out of a sense of duty to the regular one.
Regarding developping a relationship with a girl, any such incipient relationship I've had entailed paying more and missing new girls out of a sense of duty to the regular one.A sense of duty? LOL.
But to the original poster who brought up this topic, the best way to treat these girls is to treat them like fuck buddies. Nothing more nothing less. That is not to say that they don't have emotions. At least in my own experiences, the majority of the girls do have "feelings" and are not afraid to show them. However, both sides understand that this is a business transaction, and we both benefit from this transaction. If you're into slow love making and "true GFE", by all means, go for that. But once the session is over, it's best to go separate ways. For them it would be to look for the next punter to make more money. For us, it would be to look for the next GFE to satisfy our sexual desires.
I hope we're not going to hear stories of girls not being able to return to their job in Germany because of what's happening right now at borders. The feminazis would be glad to turn FKKs into refugee barracks.
Regarding developping a relationship with a girl, any such incipient relationship I've had entailed paying more and missing new girls out of a sense of duty to the regular one.Good relation with girls got me better service from her, got to know her real name and she added me on facebook. That's about it, but this is cool, so I can jerk off with her facebook photos LOL.
Also, it is nice to know how they live in their private lives. They seems to live much more normal than monger like me LOL.
I think girls can return via plane no problems, but via any other route. It may become chaos. I mean they close some train routes right? And we can forget those refugee people working in FKK due to their religions, yes I know some Muslim girls work in FKK from Iran etc. But I doubt those who came now will work in FKK at least for next decade or so.
Jimmy Boy 99
09-21-15, 00:43
However, both sides understand that this is a business transaction, and we both benefit from this transaction. If you're into slow love making and "true GFE", by all means, go for that. But once the session is over, it's best to go separate ways. For them it would be to look for the next punter to make more money. For us, it would be to look for the next GFE to satisfy our sexual desires.Unfortunately, sometimes one of them (usually the man) doesn't understand that it is a business transaction, which leads to complications.
Hessen Bub
09-21-15, 09:30
I hope we're not going to hear stories of girls not being able to return to their job in Germany because of what's happening right now at borders. A girl I know had to wait for like 3 hours at the Hungarian / Austrian border and was then sent to take the route via Bratislava. She was in her own car.
HB.
yes I know some Muslim girls work in FKK from Iran etc. But I doubt those who came now will work in FKK at least for next decade or so.One girl that I liked very much in my last session with whom I had a 2 Hour session was a Muslim Girl from Bulgaria so there are Muslim Girls from East Europe also working in FKK, came as a shocking surprise to me!
One girl that I liked very much in my last session with whom I had a 2 Hour session was a Muslim Girl from Bulgaria so there are Muslim Girls from East Europe also working in FKK, came as a shocking surprise to me!I had Albanian girl, Moroccan girl and half Iranian girl who was Muslim. Never had a Arab Muslim girls there beside from Morocco.
However, quite many girls from Romania are also religious too, but orthodox, some even has religious / god related tattoos.
I guess it is good mental support for them and it is much better than alcohol or drugs. In the end, it is very tough job to keep sanity. I as a customer even feel like losing it in FKK!
Hessen Bub
09-21-15, 13:33
There's Muslim guests and Muslim girls, no need to be shocked.
HB.
Trans Atlantic
09-22-15, 03:21
There is no customs in German airport. It's called passport control in German airport. They just scan your passport and ask you a few routine questions about your trip. They never search anybody.There certainly is customs control. IMO, they target certain flights and do more profiling than politically allow in US.
Hessen Bub
09-22-15, 06:56
do more profiling than politically allow in US.Profiling based on what? Personal experience or software algorithms?
HB.
I had Albanian girl, Moroccan girl and half Iranian girl who was Muslim. Never had a Arab Muslim girls there beside from Morocco.The problem is not muslim girls not being willing to work, the problem is that Germany is expecting 800 thousand refugees and that they're practically all geezers. It's the way the Western woman has to do sex-tourism: instead of travelling to a far-off place for two weeks (at her own expense), she imports hundreds of thousands of cocks, and the Western man acts as the cuckhold he is instead of putting his foot down.
Citizen Kane
09-22-15, 22:58
It's the way the Western woman has to do sex-tourism: instead of travelling to a far-off place for two weeks (at her own expense), she imports hundreds of thousands of cocks, and the Western man acts as the cuckhold he is instead of putting his foot down.So that's what Merkel's up to...
Before you explained it, I just thought she'd gone mental.
The problem is not muslim girls not being willing to work, the problem is that Germany is expecting 800 thousand refugees and that they're practically all geezers. It's the way the Western woman has to do sex-tourism: instead of travelling to a far-off place for two weeks (at her own expense), she imports hundreds of thousands of cocks, and the Western man acts as the cuckold he is instead of putting his foot down.Well, for me FKK and Mongering is way of life As I said before, when I am in FKK or waiting for escort in hotel room, I feel I am at right place doing right thing in life. This is how much I love good looking prostitutes.
As Hentai as it may sound, at age of 35 years old, When I already look back in my life, ever since I was 17 (or 18 I do not remember exactly which), I only remember good food and good sex with best women Other things I did like travelling was fun, but in the end, it all come down to fucking beautiful girls of all skin colors and eating delicious food of different countries.
Therefore, for me with my mindset, this refugee crisis could lead to more human resources for FKK in near future, or even in long term, some of them may decide to work in FKK at one point after they settle into German cultures.
The greatest thing about FKK is you can fuck the girls who are beautiful and also from different cultural back ground because Germany is so mixed culture. I like western girls the most, but it is nice that now and then you can fuck girls with different back ground like Muslim or whatever, it is extra topping to them being beautiful. I mean. It is hard to fuck those Muslim girls in private lives and even if you managed to do in private lives, you may most likely end up having problems with their brothers, cousins or some kind of family members as they are very protective.
In the end, out of 800 thousands refugee coming, I just hope some are beautiful and at one point they will work in FKK because I will be more than happy to zimmer them and do all beautiful sexual things in exchange for my money. FKK is just like refugees crisis, it comes down to supply and demand. So much hidden dramas behind FKK. I just love it!
So that's what Merkel's up to...
Before you explained it, I just thought she'd gone mental.Merkel is securing future human resources for German industries including FKK.
We mongers have to look at it in long term, we need fresh talents from various different cultures and back ground. I do want to find myself enjoying FKK in Germany for many years to come, so refugees is good things for us mongers. I love fucking good looking Muslim girls thinking how exotic sex I am having! It is mental thing that is a plus for Sexual Hentai like me.
Well. :
In Long term- Good human resources for FKK in Germany and also mixed child (in this case: Arab / White) tend to born good looking.
In Short term- We may already get good looking refugee girls at FKK for us to taste and help out in exchange for their sexual services.
Only down side I can think of is - We monger may have to be careful at night returning to our hotels after FKK because violent crime rate may go up in German cities especially after midnight. And for fly in mongers like me may get stopped at custom at airport and get harassed by German custom authorities upon entering the country, though this never happened before.
Also, this refugee thing will damage German economy, and it is good thing because FKK industry will be more needed to contribute to weaken economy because FKK helps a lot to attract male tourist (sex is what we men want! And it gives less reason for German government to regulate FKK with more tighter control. I mean I hate to know they are discussing banning BBBJ in FKK.
Germany is very liberal country and it should stay that way and weakening economy will help to stay in liberal or become even more liberal for the industry like FKK.
In Short term- We may already get good looking refugee girls at FKK for us to taste and help out in exchange for their sexual services.Have you looked at statistics? 13% or so of refugees are either women or children. Syrian men left their women safely under bombs so that they would not be exposed to white men.
Have you looked at statistics? 13% or so of refugees are either women or children. Syrian men left their women safely under bombs so that they would not be exposed to white men.In long term, these children will grow, let say they are 12 or something around that age now, give them 8 years, they, at least some of them may enter FKK industry, I will be waiting to taste them inside out!
Meanwhile, I be tasting other Muslim girls that I find at FKK However, it is not my thing to fuck Muslim girls, it is just that once in awhile you come across one and it is plus because of this forbidden kinda strange feeling that I get while I am fucking Muslim girls, it is pure image thing. I still choose based on how the girls looks though and most of times, I get to know they are Muslim after I connect with some of them on FB, I do not go around asking about religions in FKK.
If it was not for FKK, I would not be able or even encounter with muslim gilrs in my daily life, FKK is just amazing.
Long live FKK, long live mongers!
The refugee crisis will not damage the German economy.
Ever since the Pyramids, to the Roman Empire, to the Silk Road. Refugees were source of new labor, consumption, and economic output.
The vast majority of the refugees are the middle class (engineers, pharmacists, technicians, teachers, etc.) who happened to have the $10,000 cash to pay these criminals to.
Ship them in sealed trucks, rubber boats or just robe them blind.
Syria has (had) free education until college and had some of the best literacy / education levels in ME.
These refugees aren't going to turn into bums overnight. They will get jobs, create jobs, run kebab stands and even hit FKKs once they succeed.
Each refuge will eventually pay taxes, buy consumer goods, and have capital flight from their ME banks to EU.
At the end of the day unless you have a stone tablet from the Vikings saying you were in Germany. You are all immigrants. Ghenis Kahn or Goebbles or some mad man did the same to your ancestors and you were welcomed in the land you stand on.
Here in USA complain about immigrants and we have a monument, Ellis Island / Statue of Liberty were all the American's ancestors came as immigrants less then 75 yrs ago.
Italian were called WOPs "With Out Papers"; Irish "Micks" running from potato famine; and Catholics booted out of UK.
Welcome the Refugees!
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