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Summary: so my questions are, suggestions for FKK during the weekend, as well as hotel? Do I really need a hotel from Friday to Sunday, as I would stay all night at some FKK? All opinions are welcome, you too Cane!You can easily stay all night at World on a weekend, plenty of couch's downstairs to catch some Zzz's. Park in the side lot, they probably don't have any issue if you say you drank some beer and don't want to drive home. Then at 10:45 you walk back to the front desk to be let inside. No waste of gas.
You can also try to get a room at the grunem baum right down the road, you have to call them (no internet). I've had the front desk book them for me from time to time when other hotels staff were no-shows.
Nille Copenhagen
05-02-12, 19:53
Hi Guys, my time to hear some advice from you!
I'll be attending the Automechanika messe due to work. So obviously I would be with some collegues that don't share my hobby, or what do I know. I might be surprised? But the thing is I don't really want to hang out with my work-collegues at night, neither would I reveal my hobby to them, and still I have to get to bed at a reasonable time between Tuesday-Friday. I have to be a human being in the morning and not a FKK-Zombie! I would probably be obliged to have dinner with some of our Asian businesspartners, so I would not have any choice for further "activity". It would be awkward if I run into them at a FKK later in the evening!
My hotel will be very close to FKK Mainhattan. I mean walking distance! My plan was to take things easy during the weekdays, maybe go to a MP / RLD or something, but I really have to get some sleep as well. What would you suggest?Well Asian businesspartners never say no to karaoke and sex, why don't you ask them if they want to meet some nice girls and take them to a Fkk club, maybe they will sponsor your entrance. If I stay close to Mainhattan like you, I would go there even it's only for a few hours of fun, it's still relaxing after a long day of work and easy to get back for a good sleep.
Or you might invite some of the models from the car shows back to your hotel.
Member #4243
05-02-12, 20:33
As many of you know I have recently completed a tour of berlin frankfurt and samya clubs. For sometime now I have been searching outside of germany and a model different to the fkk model but the truth is I cannot find a better playground for this p4p girl "interaction hobby!"LOL as captain dan once said "why go anywhere else when there is so much to do in germany" I am now starting to come round to this mind of thought as where else in the world can a gentleman relax in clean safe surroundings where activities are legal and the vast majority of girls are there by their own choice and to put the icing on the cake they are happy to walk around butt naked for you giving you plenty of time to choose interact and finally pick. In fact I can only find austria, switzerland and germany which have such set ups. Anyway all I have done is state what is already known my reason for posting is as follows. I have recently come into a relatively small amount of money but for me quite a lot. I am trying to plan a mega trip for September as I can not get away any earlier due to personal commitements. The amount is upwards of 3. 5k euros. I have calculated at best I will have around a 12 day trip combined with at least 16-17 hours of playtime plus hotels etc etc. The problem I am facing is that I have visited frankfurt, berlin, nrw and globe zurich to now. I have been trying really hard to come up with an itinerary that has a flare of adventure in it, some novelty value ie something new and to really make it an fkk dream holiday to end all! LOL ideas to date involve vv party, revisit 1 or 2 days to globe zurich and also air niky does dirt cheap flights from berlin and frankfurt to vienna where I would be able to visit gt vienna for the first time in conjunction with the german clubs. I am also quite happy to hop around on trains as you all know. Basically what I am asking members is what would YOUR dream fkk holiday schedule and program be in order to give me ideas and new inspirations I may have missed.
Many thanks.
I was at the location last November when part of the building was still Pasha Pauschalclub, It's now one big Saunaclub with some great facillities, Including a good restaurant, If they attract some hot girls the club might do very well, I may check It out myself soon.Ooops why did I say Pasha, I meant Harem LOL,
It is Germany that finances Grece with a lot of money and it is questionable whether they are able to pay back. So yes the Grece should thank Germany for their help! I agree.
First thing to do is more financial disciplin in Grece and Spain.I disagree! The European Union and IMF have loaned money to Greece which must be paid back with interest. Anyway if Greece were to completely default (which might yet happen), many of the banks in Germany, France and other EU countries, would collapse because they have invested unwisely in Greece. The German taxpayer would have to bail out their banks for tens and tens of billions and the German economy would be plunged into a major recession. If Spain collapses, all of us in the European Union are going to be dragged down to the bottom (Germany included). For better or for worse we are all part of the European Union and consequently all our fates are very much interlinked.
As many of you know I have recently completed a tour of berlin frankfurt and samya clubs. For sometime now I have been searching outside of germany and a model different to the fkk model but the truth is I cannot find a better playground for this p4p girl "interaction hobby!"LOL as captain dan once said "why go anywhere else when there is so much to do in germany" I am now starting to come round to this mind of thought as where else in the world can a gentleman relax in clean safe surroundings where activities are legal and the vast majority of girls are there by their own choice and to put the icing on the cake they are happy to walk around butt naked for you giving you plenty of time to choose interact and finally pick. In fact I can only find austria, switzerland and germany which have such set ups. Anyway all I have done is state what is already known my reason for posting is as follows. I have recently come into a relatively small amount of money but for me quite a lot. I am trying to plan a mega trip for September as I can not get away any earlier due to personal commitements. The amount is upwards of 3. 5k euros. I have calculated at best I will have around a 12 day trip combined with at least 16-17 hours of playtime plus hotels etc etc. The problem I am facing is that I have visited frankfurt, berlin, nrw and globe zurich to now. I have been trying really hard to come up with an itinerary that has a flare of adventure in it, some novelty value ie something new and to really make it an fkk dream holiday to end all! LOL ideas to date involve vv party, revisit 1 or 2 days to globe zurich and also air niky does dirt cheap flights from berlin and frankfurt to vienna where I would be able to visit gt vienna for the first time in conjunction with the german clubs. I am also quite happy to hop around on trains as you all know. Basically what I am asking members is what would YOUR dream fkk holiday schedule and program be in order to give me ideas and new inspirations I may have missed.
Many thanks.Please make some paragraphs in your posts. It is almost impossible to read as it is.
In fact I can only find austria, switzerland and germany which have such set ups. Basically what I am asking members is what would YOUR dream fkk holiday schedule and program be in order to give me ideas and new inspirations I may have missed.The termas of Rio de Janeiro also have the same set-up, but you'll have to go to South America for that! Why don't you visit some of the clubs in the Hamburg area to see what they are like? I would love to see some recent reports on Hamburg before I make my own trip to that city.
As many of you know I have recently completed a tour of berlin frankfurt and samya clubs. For sometime now I have been searching outside of germany and a model different to the fkk model but the truth is I cannot find a better playground for this p4p girl "interaction hobby!"LOL as captain dan once said "why go anywhere else when there is so much to do in germany" I am now starting to come round to this mind of thought as where else in the world can a gentleman relax in clean safe surroundings where activities are legal and the vast majority of girls are there by their own choice and to put the icing on the cake they are happy to walk around butt naked for you giving you plenty of time to choose interact and finally pick. In fact I can only find austria, switzerland and germany which have such set ups. Anyway all I have done is state what is already known my reason for posting is as follows. I have recently come into a relatively small amount of money but for me quite a lot. I am trying to plan a mega trip for September as I can not get away any earlier due to personal commitements. The amount is upwards of 3. 5k euros. I have calculated at best I will have around a 12 day trip combined with at least 16-17 hours of playtime plus hotels etc etc. The problem I am facing is that I have visited frankfurt, berlin, nrw and globe zurich to now. I have been trying really hard to come up with an itinerary that has a flare of adventure in it, some novelty value ie something new and to really make it an fkk dream holiday to end all! LOL ideas to date involve vv party, revisit 1 or 2 days to globe zurich and also air niky does dirt cheap flights from berlin and frankfurt to vienna where I would be able to visit gt vienna for the first time in conjunction with the german clubs. I am also quite happy to hop around on trains as you all know. Basically what I am asking members is what would YOUR dream fkk holiday schedule and program be in order to give me ideas and new inspirations I may have missed.
Many thanks.If I had a budget of €3, 500 I might do a weekend In Gemany, but would probably do 30 days In Pattaya Thailand.
Nille Copenhagen
05-03-12, 12:48
If I had a budget of €3, 500 I might do a weekend In Gemany, but would probably do 30 days In Pattaya Thailand.I agree, You get better value for the money in Asia. Thailand, Indo, Philippines, ect.
Nille Copenhagen
05-03-12, 13:05
As many of you know I have recently completed a tour of berlin frankfurt and samya clubs. For sometime now I have been searching outside of germany and a model different to the fkk model but the truth is I cannot find a better playground for this p4p girl "interaction hobby!"LOL as captain dan once said "why go anywhere else when there is so much to do in germany" I am now starting to come round to this mind of thought as where else in the world can a gentleman relax in clean safe surroundings where activities are legal and the vast majority of girls are there by their own choice and to put the icing on the cake they are happy to walk around butt naked for you giving you plenty of time to choose interact and finally pick. In fact I can only find austria, switzerland and germany which have such set ups. Anyway all I have done is state what is already known my reason for posting is as follows. I have recently come into a relatively small amount of money but for me quite a lot. I am trying to plan a mega trip for September as I can not get away any earlier due to personal commitements. The amount is upwards of 3. 5k euros. I have calculated at best I will have around a 12 day trip combined with at least 16-17 hours of playtime plus hotels etc etc. The problem I am facing is that I have visited frankfurt, berlin, nrw and globe zurich to now. I have been trying really hard to come up with an itinerary that has a flare of adventure in it, some novelty value ie something new and to really make it an fkk dream holiday to end all! LOL ideas to date involve vv party, revisit 1 or 2 days to globe zurich and also air niky does dirt cheap flights from berlin and frankfurt to vienna where I would be able to visit gt vienna for the first time in conjunction with the german clubs. I am also quite happy to hop around on trains as you all know. Basically what I am asking members is what would YOUR dream fkk holiday schedule and program be in order to give me ideas and new inspirations I may have missed.
Many thanks.Why blow all your money on one megatrip, because in the end you get used to the naked girls. Also most clubs are only hopping Fre-Sat.
You are not living that far from Germany, I would do multiple trips in stead. If you go for novelty value, there are Sharks. 5Th element, Mainhattan, colosseum, hawaii, Paradise, ACA, PHG, PSR, GT and Funpalast (Vie). And many more.
Does anyone know the hours of the Palace? I have a 5 hour layover in Frankfurt and would like to get a quick relief before my long flight back to the US but I will be arriving around 6:00 am. I assume they will be closed then and if so is there any reliable action near the airport? Thanks for your help.
If I had a budget of €3, 500 I might do a weekend In Gemany, but would probably do 30 days In Pattaya Thailand.Yes, but for who love white women, CIS girls are more expensive and their quality aren't good in Pataya.
Nille Copenhagen
05-03-12, 13:57
Does anyone know the hours of the Palace? I have a 5 hour layover in Frankfurt and would like to get a quick relief before my long flight back to the US but I will be arriving around 6:00 am. I assume they will be closed then and if so is there any reliable action near the airport? Thanks for your help.They open from 10am, so not a good timing for you, it's too early for action, sorry.
As many of you know I have recently completed a tour of berlin frankfurt and samya clubs. For sometime now I have been searching outside of germany and a model different to the fkk model but the truth is I cannot find a better playground for this p4p girl "interaction hobby!"LOL as captain dan once said "why go anywhere else when there is so much to do in germany" I am now starting to come round to this mind of thought as where else in the world can a gentleman relax in clean safe surroundings where activities are legal and the vast majority of girls are there by their own choice and to put the icing on the cake they are happy to walk around butt naked for you giving you plenty of time to choose interact and finally pick. In fact I can only find austria, switzerland and germany which have such set ups. .
Many thanks.Brazil with their Terma (sauna clubs) , Argentina, Macau sauna clubs. Probably much cheaper but much further from wherever you are.
Does anyone know the hours of the Palace? I have a 5 hour layover in Frankfurt and would like to get a quick relief before my long flight back to the US but I will be arriving around 6:00 am. I assume they will be closed then and if so is there any reliable action near the airport? Thanks for your help.As per the Palace mobile web site:
http://mobi.the-palace.de/start.php?lng=en
Voilà.
Real gourmets like be indulged and so the The Palace's Gourmet Breakfast is just the ticket.
Breakfast includes.
- Sparkling wine.
- Eggs (fried or scrambled)
- Selection of breadrolls.
- Tasty cakes to sweeten your morning.
- Fresh shrimp.
Just the right breakfast to kick off a successful and terrific day.
Welcome to the mobile app of The Palace.
We are open daily from 10. 00 am To 4. 00 am.
THE PALACE.
Gentlemen's SaunaclubLooks like you assume correctly.
Myr.
I tried the link several times and it will not open. Tried it yesterday too.
I tried the link several times and it will not open. Tried it yesterday too.Bummer. Try the link in my post, it is working. If you can't get it, but can still reach ISG, maybe check your browser security settings?
I just tried the main site, no problem.
Myr.
I did but found out anyway they are closed. Am using internet via a satellite from Tanzania, probably why it won't connect. Anyway from what I have gathered there won't be much of anythign available during the hours I am there. 6:00 am. To 11:00 am. Probably just hang around the airport and shop with the money I had planned for playing.
I have recently come into a relatively small amount of money but for me quite a lot. I am trying to plan a mega trip for September as I can not get away any earlier due to personal commitements. The amount is upwards of 3. 5k euros.Is this the moment where you ask me to help you get rid of this amount of money, I just have to give you my I'd, account and credit card number? I'd gladly be your wingman! But seriously, you have some options. You could do approx. One week in Prague, some fun days in multiple FKKs in NRW to make them last longer. Thailand was proposed, but of course the flight ticket would cost you more, and you have to be into asian girls. For a short flight, I'd say Germany is your best bet. Prague would be more expensive, because you would probably spend too much on Ladies Drinks instead of the action itself. Just my 3, 5 cents.
Well Asian businesspartners never say no to karaoke and sex, why don't you ask them if they want to meet some nice girls and take them to a Fkk club, maybe they will sponsor your entrance. If I stay close to Mainhattan like you, I would go there even it's only for a few hours of fun, it's still relaxing after a long day of work and easy to get back for a good sleep.
Or you might invite some of the models from the car shows back to your hotel.Karaoke and sex haha. Nille, you have so many prejudices! But I would be with collegues that I know are not into FKKs, and I really don't know if the Asian guys are interested to go to a FKK as they are actually father and son! Well you never know? But I think that you had a good advice about Mainhattan during the weekdays as it is very close. And the best incentive is that they have decreased their entry to only 50 euros! Do you know if this is permanently or just a temporary offer?
During the weekend, I'd probably go to World and maybe Oase. Do you guys know if there are still a lot of people from the messe on Friday / Saturday in Oase?
But I.don't know if the Asian guys are interested to go to a FKK as they are actually father and son!Hey, considering some guys fantasy is sisters / mother-daughter, who knows, father-son may ring some girl's bell's?
LOL.
Myr.
Nille Copenhagen
05-03-12, 19:40
Karaoke and sex haha. Nille, you have so many prejudices!I'm dead serious, my friend who do business with Asian guys, always invite them out for Karaoke, drinks and girls before they can do business deals.
Maybe you can ask the father and the son will follow. You could suggest a business dinner at the club
If they don't want to fuck then it's just like being in a strip-club, no harm is done.
World should be too far away to be affected by the messe crowd, on the other hand expect Palace and Oase to be overrun.
I did but found out anyway they are closed. Am using internet via a satellite from Tanzania, probably why it won't connect. Anyway from what I have gathered there won't be much of anythign available during the hours I am there. 6:00 am. To 11:00 am.Beavis,
There is also the red light district which is near the main train station. The train from Frankfurt Main airport to the main train station is around 12 minutes. It will be a rush but is is possible. As a guide sessions start around 25 to 30€. There are girls from the red light district that have come from FKKs and vice versa.
Either that or try and score a Lufthansa air hostess for a quickie in the VIP lounge.
During the weekend, I'd probably go to World and maybe Oase. Do you guys know if there are still a lot of people from the messe on Friday / Saturday in Oase?What I have found is that the last day of the trade fair is not so bad and things return to normal the day after the trade fair. So it depends what day the trade fair that you are attending ends.
PussyLiccker
05-04-12, 11:45
I have already asked, but never gotten a response. Anybody know which clubs have the most German girls working in them? I've been to GT and Livingroom and I love those clubs because of there are a lot of sexy German girls there. Which clubs do you think has the most German girls in it? I am also into Hungarian and Polish girls too because they they to share similarities with German girls.
Nille Copenhagen
05-04-12, 18:49
I have already asked, but never gotten a response. Anybody know which clubs have the most German girls working in them? I've been to GT and Livingroom and I love those clubs because of there are a lot of sexy German girls there. Which clubs do you think has the most German girls in it? I am also into Hungarian and Polish girls too because they they to share similarities with German girls.If you are looking for a club with most DE-girls, I would suggest Artemis.
I have already asked, but never gotten a response. Anybody know which clubs have the most German girls working in them?Very rarely will a girl tell me she's Hungarian, Polish or german. Not saying it doesn't happen, its just rare to hear those countries. And I've been to many, many clubs. There's your response, feel free to quit asking the question.
I have already asked, but never gotten a response. Anybody know which clubs have the most German girls working in them? I've been to GT and Livingroom and I love those clubs because of there are a lot of sexy German girls there. Which clubs do you think has the most German girls in it? I am also into Hungarian and Polish girls too because they they to share similarities with German girls.Your favorite club, The Palace, actually has a fairly sizeable German contingent, up to 10 such girls, I think.
The clubs that only allow girls that speak German always have a fair number of german girls. I would expect you can find a reasonable number of German girls in Golden Time, Freude and I hear Livingroom has gone native recently. For some reason there also seems to be a reasonable amount of German girls in Ying Yang in the Netherlands. Less chance to run into your neighbour.
PussyLiccker
05-05-12, 00:54
The clubs that only allow girls that speak German always have a fair number of german girls. I would expect you can find a reasonable number of German girls in Golden Time, Freude and I hear Livingroom has gone native recently. For some reason there also seems to be a reasonable amount of German girls in Ying Yang in the Netherlands. Less chance to run into your neighbour.Are the girls young (20-25) at Freude and YingYang? I know Bernd's has fair amount of German girls, but they were MILFs. I have been to GT and Livingroom. They are definitely my kind of club I realized after visiting GT for the second time (first time, didn't feel comfortable because it was so small and packed on Friday night). I love how the girls wait for you to approach them, and when you do, they are very polite. I think it's a German and Dutch oriented club, and I notice the differences from a typical Frankfurt club. Customer's are usually either German, from Holland, or Belgien (Mostly white). Then, there are Asians (I am also Asian) that frequent the club, and I tell you, Asians get great service at those clubs. I also love how girls sit alone (some clubs girls sit together or sit in mass in smoking room, which turns me off from approaching them) in the couch or bar chair waiting for you to approach them, and they are very polite when you talk to them. I think the management lays certain standards for the kind of girls that can work there. Also, before I left living room, the management lady asked me if everything was ok, and I said yes (typical German management style, sakura was like that). She asked me which girls I was with. So I think they do really care about how satisfied the customers are.
Anyway, thanks for the tip on looking for German girls, I do really like how they carry themselves at the clubs, they are very polite, and not too pushy. So I guess, I should look toward German or Dutch customer oriented clubs. Any other suggestions would be great.
I have already asked, but never gotten a response. Anybody know which clubs have the most German girls working in them? I've been to GT and Livingroom and I love those clubs because of there are a lot of sexy German girls there. Which clubs do you think has the most German girls in it? I am also into Hungarian and Polish girls too because they they to share similarities with German girls.Pound for pound and inch for inch, the Polish girls are my favorite. I've met Poles at Artemis, Palace, Oase, and Golden Time. I've enjoyed Hungarian at Palace, Mainhattan, and World. Also think I may have met one Hungarian at Oase who wanted to fuck me, but I had already done my damage for the night. Most of the German girls I have been with worked at Artemis and Palace. There were a few at Oase, but with the exception of Lynn (was going by Julia at Artemis) , I have not been too attracted to the handful of German girls I have met at Oase.
Hope that helps.
Are the girls young (20-25) at Freude and YingYang? I know Bernd's has fair amount of German girls, but they were MILFs. I have been to GT and Livingroom. They are definitely my kind of club I realized after visiting GT for the second time (first time, didn't feel comfortable because it was so small and packed on Friday night). I love how the girls wait for you to approach them, and when you do, they are very polite. I think it's a German and Dutch oriented club, and I notice the differences from a typical Frankfurt club. Customer's are usually either German, from Holland, or Belgien (Mostly white). Then, there are Asians (I am also Asian) that frequent the club, and I tell you, Asians get great service at those clubs. I also love how girls sit alone (some clubs girls sit together or sit in mass in smoking room, which turns me off from approaching them) in the couch or bar chair waiting for you to approach them, and they are very polite when you talk to them. I think the management lays certain standards for the kind of girls that can work there. Also, before I left living room, the management lady asked me if everything was ok, and I said yes (typical German management style, sakura was like that). She asked me which girls I was with. So I think they do really care about how satisfied the customers are.
Anyway, thanks for the tip on looking for German girls, I do really like how they carry themselves at the clubs, they are very polite, and not too pushy. So I guess, I should look toward German or Dutch customer oriented clubs. Any other suggestions would be great.Well I can't really talk from experience too much, since I like neither German girls, nor GT. The girls in Ying Yang are int the same age range as GT; Freude has mostly girls in their twenties, but also some girls that are bit older. It is a morning club and especially the German girls might call it a day early if they made enough money (as early as 3 pm). I was there yesterday and I know of at least 7 German girls that were there, many of the other girls have been in Germany for a bit longer as well. Pretty much all girls are very polite. The girls here aren't allowed to approach you, so if you like that you're in the right place. It is very German oriented though, with only some Belgians and Dutch guys to break the uniformtiy. It does have the reputation to have somewhat of doorpolicy, but being white I can't say I've ever noticed. Service levels are off the charts by the way.
Pound for pound and inch for inch, the Polish girls are my favorite. I've met Poles at Artemis, Palace, Oase, and Golden Time. I've enjoyed Hungarian at Palace, Mainhattan, and World. Also think I may have met one Hungarian at Oase who wanted to fuck me, but I had already done my damage for the night. Most of the German girls I have been with worked at Artemis and Palace. There were a few at Oase, but with the exception of Lynn (was going by Julia at Artemis) , I have not been too attracted to the handful of German girls I have met at Oase.
Hope that helps.No Hungarian at Palace. Hungarian at Artemis, Mainhattan, and World. Also approached by one Hungarian at Oase that I can recall. Told her I would do her "later", but then reneged on my pledge hehehe! Had done my screwing for the night.
PussyLiccker
05-05-12, 21:55
Well I can't really talk from experience too much, since I like neither German girls, nor GT. The girls in Ying Yang are int the same age range as GT; Freude has mostly girls in their twenties, but also some girls that are bit older. It is a morning club and especially the German girls might call it a day early if they made enough money (as early as 3 pm). I was there yesterday and I know of at least 7 German girls that were there, many of the other girls have been in Germany for a bit longer as well. Pretty much all girls are very polite. The girls here aren't allowed to approach you, so if you like that you're in the right place. It is very German oriented though, with only some Belgians and Dutch guys to break the uniformtiy. It does have the reputation to have somewhat of doorpolicy, but being white I can't say I've ever noticed. Service levels are off the charts by the way.How are the ladies down at Ying Yang? I've done some reading on the club, and they rate the girls low ( 8/10, ladies global score). Does that mean, there are no 8 or 9s there? Are they mostly 5s? I've also read that girls to men ratio is very bad, and girls will reject many guest's requests. That's too bad, from what I've read, there are good amount of German and Polish girls.
Also, you say that Ying Yang and Freude both are morning clubs?
Also, what about Dutch girls? Any clubs with mostly Dutch girls in them? I have a thing for Dutch girls, and was wondering where I can find them.
How are the ladies down at Ying Yang? I've done some reading on the club, and they rate the girls low (8/10, ladies global score). Does that mean, there are no 8 or 9s there? Are they mostly 5s? I've also read that girls to men ratio is very bad, and girls will reject many guest's requests. That's too bad, from what I've read, there are good amount of German and Polish girls.
Also, you say that Ying Yang and Freude both are morning clubs?
Also, what about Dutch girls? Any clubs with mostly Dutch girls in them? I have a thing for Dutch girls, and was wondering where I can find them.In all honesty I haven't been to YY for a while, since it is only 15km from GT. While I don't really like GT, they do have a better and larger line-up; so if I have to go to a club in this area at all, I usually go to GT. What girls in YY is concerned there are very few Romanian girls (that's what I hear at least) , and some guys really like that; I can't really comment on the looks. I mentioned the club because I always noticed the relatively large amount of German girls there. When I asked a girl why she doesn't work in a German club, she told me about turning up for work once and quickly leaving again when she saw a girl she knew (neighbour) that was working as well; so working a bit farther from home seemed a better idea. I also hear that BBBJ and dfk can be problematic at times (apparantly Dutch law is such that the club can't be too strict) , just like many girls wanting 100 an hour (but you have this in GT as well).
Both clubs have early entry discounts (freude 30 before 12am, YY 40 before 2 pm) , but it is mostly in Freude that you see a peak in guests around 12-1 and a drop off after 4 pm. Many guys just come in to have a fuck with their regular and leave again. Often you see some girls leave between (something like) 4pm and 9pm as well; they often come back with bags of local clothing stores. On Friday / Saturday the club is open till 3am, so apparantly a second wave of customers arrives around midnight (hence girls coming back after their shopping). This is really the only club I know of, where the early afternoon is the busiest time (also means that many girls can treat it as regular 10-6 job).
You hardly see Dutch girls in the clubs, I know there is one in Villa Marisol and 2 in YY, I don't really know why. They probably van make more for less service in Dutch clubs. That's why many Dutch guys travel to the German clubs BTW.
As many of you know I have recently completed a tour of berlin frankfurt and samya clubs. For sometime now I have been searching outside of germany and a model different to the fkk model but the truth is I cannot find a better playground for this p4p girl "interaction hobby!"LOL as captain dan once said "why go anywhere else when there is so much to do in germany" I am now starting to come round to this mind of thought as where else in the world can a gentleman relax in clean safe surroundings where activities are legal and the vast majority of girls are there by their own choice and to put the icing on the cake they are happy to walk around butt naked for you giving you plenty of time to choose interact and finally pick. In fact I can only find austria, switzerland and germany which have such set ups. Anyway all I have done is state what is already known my reason for posting is as follows. I have recently come into a relatively small amount of money but for me quite a lot. I am trying to plan a mega trip for September as I can not get away any earlier due to personal commitements. The amount is upwards of 3. 5k euros. I have calculated at best I will have around a 12 day trip combined with at least 16-17 hours of playtime plus hotels etc etc. The problem I am facing is that I have visited frankfurt, berlin, nrw and globe zurich to now. I have been trying really hard to come up with an itinerary that has a flare of adventure in it, some novelty value ie something new and to really make it an fkk dream holiday to end all! LOL ideas to date involve vv party, revisit 1 or 2 days to globe zurich and also air niky does dirt cheap flights from berlin and frankfurt to vienna where I would be able to visit gt vienna for the first time in conjunction with the german clubs. I am also quite happy to hop around on trains as you all know. Basically what I am asking members is what would YOUR dream fkk holiday schedule and program be in order to give me ideas and new inspirations I may have missed.
Many thanks.Since you have been and done and done so many FKKs already, If I were you, I would go to Ukraine.
As you know, FKKs can get to be a bit boring if you do them back to back for 12 days, mainly as you said, due to lack of adventure and variety.
Then I was thinking, why not go to Giessen, maybe stay one night or more at a local hotel (which I found was not expensive). FKK World would be my choice as it would be less affected by the Messe-crowd and even my favourite Oase. But I fear that the crowd from the Messe would be intolerable at both Oase, Palace and of course Mainhattan. What about Sharks in Darmstadt?
Summary: so my questions are, suggestions for FKK during the weekend, as well as hotel? Do I really need a hotel from Friday to Sunday, as I would stay all night at some FKK? All opinions are welcome, you too Cane!One option is to sleep in a VIP room at World. It's more expensive than a cheap hotel, but how often do you get the chance to sleep over in an FKK club? The only problem for me would be having to stay up until 4 or 5 AM.
http://www.fkk-world.de/en/our-prices
"Overnight stay. VIP rooms with private bathroom. Price per night 100- Euro. The room is available from the closing of the club until 11 am On the following day. (If you would like to stay in our club on the next day, you have to pay the daily entrance again)"
Hi guys,
I'm due to visit Berlin soon and would really like to get some info on fkk clubs bordellos and sex kinos such as entry costs and if its worth going to fkk or bordello or sex kinos. Which seems to be the biggest rip off in terms of scams? Also I would really like to visit a thai massage and do they offer sex as part of the massage
Thanks guys for your replys.
Del
Hi guys,
I'm due to visit Berlin soon and would really like to get some info on fkk clubs bordellos and sex kinos such as entry costs and if its worth going to fkk or bordello or sex kinos. Which seems to be the biggest rip off in terms of scams? Also I would really like to visit a thai massage and do they offer sex as part of the massage
Thanks guys for your replys.
DelHi and welcome to the forum! I suggest you read the Berlin thread which provides lots of information. When will you be there? I will be there myself in about 3 weeks. I would strongly recommend the great guide to Berlins bordello and FKK scene by Angus Magee!
www.angusmagee.com
Since Marijuana is legal in Netherlands but not so in DE, do any of you know if you get in serious trouble if you bring a couple of joints across the border?
Is smoking in the outdoor areas of the NRW clubs frowned upon or look the other way or well accepted? Do you know of or run into any girls that like to share?
I smoked a joint in GT in Vienna. I asked couple of girls and both of them showed interest but I got the sense that they would get in trouble if management found out so they did not try. They were cool with me smoking though.
Other Guys that have been to Rio and the FKKs, Have you notice any Similarity in the Girls?
One thing I noticed is lots of Lip licking when they are getting pounded. Maybe it is because I am so Handsome LOL.
Can't wait to get back to Frankfurt and Hamburg in August.
Since Marijuana is legal in Netherlands but not so in DE, do any of you know if you get in serious trouble if you bring a couple of joints across the border?
Is smoking in the outdoor areas of the NRW clubs frowned upon or look the other way or well accepted? Do you know of or run into any girls that like to share?
I smoked a joint in GT in Vienna. I asked couple of girls and both of them showed interest but I got the sense that they would get in trouble if management found out so they did not try. They were cool with me smoking though.First of all, there are sometimes border checks for just this thing; once there were border officials with a dog walking through my train from Venlo. In the clubs it happens, but I'm also sure the management isn't really happy with it (just like they don't want the girls to drink). The only time I've seen a spliff, was in PSR, where a German guy shared it with a girl (I declined the offered hit, since I can smoke legally anytime I want. I could get a joint and be back home in 3 minutes).
Nille Copenhagen
05-07-12, 23:06
Since Marijuana is legal in Netherlands but not so in DE, do any of you know if you get in serious trouble if you bring a couple of joints across the border?
Is smoking in the outdoor areas of the NRW clubs frowned upon or look the other way or well accepted? Do you know of or run into any girls that like to share?
I smoked a joint in GT in Vienna. I asked couple of girls and both of them showed interest but I got the sense that they would get in trouble if management found out so they did not try. They were cool with me smoking though.I don't know the official rules, but at GT I sometimes smell weed from people smoking out in the garden.
First of all, there are sometimes border checks for just this thing; once there were border officials with a dog walking through my train from Venlo. In the clubs it happens, but I'm also sure the management isn't really happy with it (just like they don't want the girls to drink). The only time I've seen a spliff, was in PSR, where a German guy shared it with a girl (I declined the offered hit, since I can smoke legally anytime I want. I could get a joint and be back home in 3 minutes).That is interesting but make sense to check trains for people carrying stuff by bag loads. May be they won, t bother you if you have a couple for personal consumption.
HungryStud101
05-08-12, 02:13
Other Guys that have been to Rio and the FKKs, Have you notice any Similarity in the Girls?
One thing I noticed is lots of Lip licking when they are getting pounded. Maybe it is because I am so Handsome LOL.
Can't wait to get back to Frankfurt and Hamburg in August.I have had 4 trips to Rio and two trips to FKK land and I love them both. Below are my observations.
In Rio, the Termas girls will do a lot more flirting and kissing outside the room. Also, they will be more likely to hang out with you post session and provide that "service after sale" that I like to speak of. Lastly, after the termas closes (about midnight or 1AM) the Rio girls are a lot more likely to meet you back at your hotel or the bar or beach the next day etc. I think there have been a lot of "Pretty Woman" stories with the Termas girls and they may be trying to set you up for that ultimate session fee called alimony. The game is very different in Rio and the FKK. The FKK is very inexpensive per session and the session is shorter and guys session multiple times a visit. In Rio a session costs more and it is at least 10 minutes longer and the girl will allow multiple SOG. At the termas, typically you pick a girl and that is it. Many guys don't session at all. After the session the Termas girl will frequently hang out with you etc. About half of the Termas girls I have sessioned with have given me their e-mail address or cell. In the FKK after a 50E session it is unlikely that the girl will not acknowledge that you are alive when she passes you in the club.
I love both formats. The FKK is a little more business like and I am OK with this. Again these are my observations based on a small sample size.
Other Guys that have been to Rio and the FKKs, Have you notice any Similarity in the Girls?
I have had 4 trips to Rio and two trips to FKK land and I love them both. Below are my observations.
In Rio, the Termas girls will do a lot more flirting and kissing outside the room. Also, they will be more likely to hang out with you post session and provide that "service after sale" that I like to speak of. Lastly, after the termas closes (about midnight or 1AM) the Rio girls are a lot more likely to meet you back at your hotel or the bar or beach the next day etc. I think there have been a lot of "Pretty Woman" stories with the Termas girls and they may be trying to set you up for that ultimate session fee called alimony. The game is very different in Rio and the FKK. The FKK is very inexpensive per session and the session is shorter and guys session multiple times a visit. In Rio a session costs more and it is at least 10 minutes longer and the girl will allow multiple SOG. At the termas, typically you pick a girl and that is it. Many guys don't session at all. After the session the Termas girl will frequently hang out with you etc. About half of the Termas girls I have sessioned with have given me their e-mail address or cell. In the FKK after a 50E session it is unlikely that the girl will not acknowledge that you are alive when she passes you in the club.
I love both formats. The FKK is a little more business like and I am OK with this. Again these are my observations based on a small sample size.I am a very experienced Rio monger, having been there 13 times and visited several termas each time. My FKK experience, however, is limited to two visits to Artemis, although that will soon change.
I agree with everything HungryStud101 says, although I would add two important things. In the Rio termas, just about every sexual encounter is a GFE. You don't have to worry about a girl not providing certain services, because DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and CFS are standard, and anal is quite common and does not incur an extra charge. In fact, charging extra for services is unheard of. Either the girl does certain things or she doesn't.
The other obvious difference is that in the FKKs the girls are naked, whereas in the termas they wear bikinis or the equivalent. And, although there are some barracudas, Brazilian girls are generally just more fun to be around. I may be biased by the fact that I speak Portuguese and don't speak German.
I no longer go to Brazil because it has become prohibitively expensive. Going to a Rio termas and sessioning with 3 girls could easily cost well upwards of US$500, so by comparison even the upscale FKKs are cheap.
To sum up, it's a tradeoff, but I think now the balance is in favor of FKKs. I'll tell you more in a week or so.
HungryStud101
05-08-12, 12:50
I agree with everything HungryStud101 says, although I would add two important things. In the Rio termas, just about every sexual encounter is a GFE. You don't have to worry about a girl not providing certain services, because DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and CFS are standard, and anal is quite common and does not incur an extra charge. In fact, charging extra for services is unheard of. Either the girl does certain things or she doesn't.Good points. And I forgot, anal seems to be standard service in Brazil for some reason. So if you are an anal guy you will have no problem finding a Termas girl to provide this at no extra charge where as at an FKK it is 100Euro extra. So if you are an anal freak the costs become very similar. Ignoring the entrance fee the cost drinks at the Termas the cost would be as follows:
Termas L'umo. 250 R based on an exchange rate of 1. 8 R / 1 USD = 138 USD per session including anal. (Add extra for drinks but L'umo provided food last visit)
Oase / world .150Euro based on a 1. 42 USD / 1Euro = 213 USD per session including anal.
Wow! I have to check these numbers out but I believe this is close
Never been to the thermas, but some of the numbers and assertions here focus heavily on Hessen. An hour long session in Samya, GT, LR, PHG with anal is 125 euros (100 for half an hour). Then there are the clubs that charge 40 or 30 for each half an hour (Acapulco and Heaven7). In these clubs it is also a lot more common for girls to be booked for 5-6 hours at a time (probably at less than 75 an hour).
That is interesting but make sense to check trains for people carrying stuff by bag loads. May be they won, t bother you if you have a couple for personal consumption.They will bother even if you have only a few grams for personal consumption. The fine you must pay in NRW is I thought 200E (can differ between the Bundesländer / States). In the Venlo region also cars are controlled but mostly with German license plates (if a German drives a car after having taken some soft drugs in NL that is already considered as a crime).
Drugs in clubs of course are forbidden, if you get caught your visit will be over.
Since May 1 as a foreigner you can not buy soft drugs anymore in the Southern part of Holland (Limburg / Noord Brabant / Zeeland).
"Coffee shops will become private clubs open only to residents of the Netherlands aged 18 and over."
Januari 2013 it will apply everywhere in Holland
Since May 1 as a foreigner you can not buy soft drugs anymore in the Southern part of Holland (Limburg / Noord Brabant / Zeeland).
"Coffee shops will become private clubs open only to residents of the Netherlands aged 18 and over."
Januari 2013 it will apply everywhere in HollandAbout this last point, the restrictions on sale of weed / hash to non-NL residents in Amsterdam from 1st January 2013:
Is there any talk about changing / relaxing this restriction, esp in Amsterdam? I ask because:
A) If the coffeeshops become "no-go" zones for foreign tourists, won't there be a profound (I mean, extreme) negative economic effect right across the board in this "party town?" I refer to massive loss of revenue not only for the coffeeshops themselves, but for restaurants, bars, hotels, etc?
B) There will be a new, presumably more left-wing government in NL soon, so will the new government take a different stance on the "weed for foreignors" isssue? At least as far as Amsterdam goes?
Just curious if there is any discussion on these points.
Thanks,
O
About this last point, the restrictions on sale of weed / hash to non-NL residents in Amsterdam from 1st January 2013:
Is there any talk about changing / relaxing this restriction, esp in Amsterdam? I ask because:
A) If the coffeeshops become "no-go" zones for foreign tourists, won't there be a profound (I mean, extreme) negative economic effect right across the board in this "party town?" I refer to massive loss of revenue not only for the coffeeshops themselves, but for restaurants, bars, hotels, etc?
B) There will be a new, presumably more left-wing government in NL soon, so will the new government take a different stance on the "weed for foreignors" isssue? At least as far as Amsterdam goes?
Just curious if there is any discussion on these points.
Thanks,
OA) Neither Amsterdam, nor the Netherlands has ever intended liberal drug and prostitution laws to be a 'tourist attraction'. If anything all these 'partiers' are seen as an adverse side effect of dealing with drugs and prostitutions in a 'pragmatic' fashion. I think they will feel Amsterdam has enough other things to offer. Not to mention the freed up resources / lower disturbance from tourists having bad trips (or in general being a nuisance). I'm not saying all tourists are like this, but some are; it's the price you pay for being considered a 'party city' and a reason not to pursue being one. Of course there will be small businesses (coffeshops, maybe hostels) that suffer, but I wouldn't think that will be seen as a reason not to take this measure.
B) You never know, but drug policy is sort of the last thing on politicians minds right now. This 'wietpas' innitiative has been set up some time ago, mostly because of the nuisance the coffeshops (or rather its Belgian, German and French customers) caused in the border areas. Appart from some coffeeshops owners (not the best represented industry) few dutch people will give a hoot.
Of course there will be all kind of set ups of dutch people buying stuff for tourists. Like I said below, I live pretty close to a coffeeshop, hardly ever smoke (it has been years I think) , but probably wouldn't mind buying someone a spliff if he'd ask me.
They will bother even if you have only a few grams for personal consumption. The fine you must pay in NRW is I thought 200E (can differ between the Bundesländer / States). In the Venlo region also cars are controlled but mostly with German license plates (if a German drives a car after having taken some soft drugs in NL that is already considered as a crime).
Drugs in clubs of course are forbidden, if you get caught your visit will be over.
Since May 1 as a foreigner you can not buy soft drugs anymore in the Southern part of Holland (Limburg / Noord Brabant / Zeeland).
"Coffee shops will become private clubs open only to residents of the Netherlands aged 18 and over."
Januari 2013 it will apply everywhere in HollandThank you all that responded to this lounge chat about soft drugs.
I have read about the changing laws as well but it was unclear to me if the "private clubs' would allow the residents to carry them out of the store or you have to use them on site. If you can carry them out, for obvious reasons, there will be a booming black market aimed at tourists. Regardless, the change seems regressive.
I agree with Free Dude. I have been to AMS many times and I know locals there and none of them smoke and they do not care one bit about these laws, one way or other. Actually, outside the major city centers it is even hard to find "coffeeshops", unless you are in the know. When I first visited Holland a decade ago, I expected to find them everywhere like liquor stores in the US. I was surprised.
Hi and welcome to the forum! I suggest you read the Berlin thread which provides lots of information. When will you be there? I will be there myself in about 3 weeks. I would strongly recommend the great guide to Berlins bordello and FKK scene by Angus Magee!
www.angusmagee.comHi Sucker17,
Sorry I won't be in berlin till mid June but I will sure read the Angus Magee blog thanks for your info.
Del
HungryStud101
05-09-12, 21:49
Never been to the thermas, but some of the numbers and assertions here focus heavily on Hessen. An hour long session in Samya, GT, LR, PHG with anal is 125 euros (100 for half an hour). Then there are the clubs that charge 40 or 30 for each half an hour (Acapulco and Heaven7). In these clubs it is also a lot more common for girls to be booked for 5-6 hours at a time (probably at less than 75 an hour).Good point. This is just back-of-the-envelope calculations to demonstrate that if you are the type of monger that asks for extras than the relative bargin of the FKK compared to the Termas starts to diminish. This is because some of these extras such as anal seem to be standard in the Rio Termas. If you purchase the "frills' in Oase or World, the FKK can turn out to be more expensive.
I would love to visit PHG and some of those other clubs and see what they are about. Thanks for the input
Desperately looking for some real experience info on FKK Europa. Wondering how this place fares against likes of Oase, Artemis or World.
Thanks. One free beer for your input.
Amriptna111
05-11-12, 01:36
Hey all,
Have you guys played tricks on the girls. As an example while fucking her doggy style suddenly we say "ops the condom broke honey" while inside her OR after cumming in her pussy and withdrawing it then we say "shit babe the condom broke in your pussy". I wonder what would the girls reaction be?
Maybe we can do this if we get shitty service from them.
Maybe we can do this if we get shitty service from them.I will try to react very polite on this post and other posts of you. This is my reaction "You are a sick moron".
Amriptna111
05-11-12, 05:48
I will try to react very polite on this post and other posts of you. This is my reaction "You are a sick moron".Hi I was just playing with ya. I apologize if this offended you.
No I have never done it but yeah on my first visit to fkk I did get ripped but other visit I would say was good. Anyway I have got a few girls that is scared that the condom would come off as I see them checking out the condom. I gues they have clients that keeps on having sex eventhough the condom feel of or broke.
Hessen Bub
05-11-12, 09:44
Desperately looking for some real experience info on FKK Europa. Wondering how this place fares against likes of Oase, Artemis or World.
Thanks. One free beer for your input.Been there about 7 years ago. Would not repeat. Small club, lousy line-up in quality and quantity. But. Things may have changed. On the other hand you do not see too many reports on German boards.
HB
Hi I was just playing with ya. I apologize if this offended you.No problem! Case closed!
B30
Amriptna111
05-11-12, 13:39
Dear expereince mongers,
If possible could you guys share how you evaluate whether the girls will provide good service or not? Basically what is the heuristic that you use? What are the signs she will be a shark once you go to the room? It would definetly benefit other members especially newbies in the forum?
For me my heuristic are as follows (*be warned I am quite new and have been ripped off so this is kinda like a meta heuristic) but I just want to share:-
Indication of a shark:-
1) approach you in a duo and promise you the best lesbian show and what they can do but like all good things they charge you everything just that they don't tell you af first (P? S HOWEVER thre is an exception as Montana in oase did this to me at the first time and I basically put her in my black book but the second time I went for a session with her anyways and yeah it was good!)
2) promise me the world like you can do whatever you want in the room. Trust me all the girls have limitations and they won't do everything especially in palace.
3) those who hike then reduce prices. As an example first price 100 euro for 30 minutes to have kisses inccluded but then when you say no she drops it to 70 euro. Clear indication to me that she is going to tone down the service significantly.
4) I don't go for a girl that grabs at my cock immediately. This is rude as I don't grrab their boobs just like that.
Anyway if I made any mistake feel free to correct me and if you think that you should add please do. Many thanks!
Hey guys,
I visited FKK magnum a few weeks ago and had a good time there. I need to write a report soon, is it worth adding a thread for this club or just post in the other fkks thread?
Hey all,
Have you guys played tricks on the girls. As an example while fucking her doggy style suddenly we say "ops the condom broke honey" while inside her OR after cumming in her pussy and withdrawing it then we say "shit babe the condom broke in your pussy". I wonder what would the girls reaction be?
Maybe we can do this if we get shitty service from them.First of all, I suggest you don't try to do this kind of "tricks". Secondly it did actually happen to me with a girl in a club and it was no trick, won't say with whom and where, but the condom did break and I discovered this while doing her doggy style, you just feel that it happens. So I withdrew and at the same time I came hard, so I busted my nuts on her leg instead. Well, she was cool about it, but did exit the room to do something, flush her pussy or something. I really don't know. She said her fear was not being pregnant but of course having some sort of STD. We both got tested (negative) and when I came back to the same club, she pulled a "trick" on me telling me she was pregnant. So I suggest you keep the tricks for yourself!
First of all, I suggest you don't try to do this kind of "tricks". Secondly it did actually happen to me with a girl in a club and it was no trick, won't say with whom and where, but the condom did break and I discovered this while doing her doggy style, you just feel that it happens. So I withdrew and at the same time I came hard, so I busted my nuts on her leg instead. Well, she was cool about it, but did exit the room to do something, flush her pussy or something. I really don't know. She said her fear was not being pregnant but of course having some sort of STD. We both got tested (negative) and when I came back to the same club, she pulled a "trick" on me telling me she was pregnant. So I suggest you keep the tricks for yourself!Yes, no need to play "tricks". These things can and do happen over the normal course of things. Has happened to me at least twice over the years. Only, I didn't realize it had happened until after I spermed and pulled out. These are the eeerrrr "breaks".
Nille Copenhagen
05-11-12, 21:05
Hey guys,
I visited FKK magnum a few weeks ago and had a good time there. I need to write a report soon, is it worth adding a thread for this club or just post in the other fkks thread?I would love to read your report as my friend was there recently and he said it was boring, the club is big, but not many girls to fill up the place. And the girls are not that pretty.
Hey guys,
I visited FKK magnum a few weeks ago and had a good time there. I need to write a report soon, is it worth adding a thread for this club or just post in the other fkks thread?No offense Wanking but I think you should add your report to the Other FKK Clubs thread. No point having a thread with only one report!
If a momentum builds behind this club it will naturally gain its own thread. This happened with FKK Sharks which was originally reported in the Other FKK Clubs thread.
I look forward to reading your report.
CD
Nick The G
05-12-12, 00:33
Found this on YouTube tonight. Videos about driving to FKK-World.
Might be interesting / helpful (?) for visitors from abroad coming to Germany to visit FKK-World for the first time.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB9074B05C7E0FCA9
Amriptna111
05-12-12, 03:01
Yes, no need to play "tricks". These things can and do happen over the normal course of things. Has happened to me at least twice over the years. Only, I didn't realize it had happened until after I spermed and pulled out. These are the eeerrrr "breaks".Man I woud be scared the living shit if that were to happen. But didn't you feel like it happen. I mean didn't you feel that the condom broke? But I realize the girls always checks the condom;.p
Angus Magee
05-12-12, 06:52
Man I woud be scared the living shit if that were to happen. But didn't you feel like it happen. I mean didn't you feel that the condom broke? But I realize the girls always checks the condom;.pOver the last 10 years or so I have had 3 condoms break. Twice I felt it right away and pulled out. Both these times were during fucking and I was no where near cumming at the time. The third time the condom broke right at the end, I guess as I came for I felt nothing and did not know until I withdrew and all I had on my dick was a small ring of rubber.
Condom breakages can happen. For me it is not such a big deal. I means I have to go get tested which Is never a bad thing anyway. For the girl it is way, way more of a trauma, depending on the girl of course. I guess this is why, even in jest, your suggestion of playing this trick on the girls meets with little favor.
AM
HungryStud101
05-12-12, 21:02
Over the last 10 years or so I have had 3 condoms break. Twice I felt it right away and pulled out. Both these times were during fucking and I was no where near cumming at the time. The third time the condom broke right at the end, I guess as I came for I felt nothing and did not know until I withdrew and all I had on my dick was a small ring of rubber.
AMI have been a casual hobbyist since 2007. I have had at least two break that I can remember. Also, once we got so into it that we had sex BB. I think apllying enough lube is key to keeping the condom from rupturing. I told myself that the other mistake (BB) would never happen again. I even turned down BB from a Termas girl that became my GF one weekend.
Member #4243
05-13-12, 03:50
A potential window has opened for me to visit the playgrounds of frankfurt in early July. My plans for a megatrip are on hold for now and it is more likely I will be doing a 6 day stint in frankfurt instead due to commitments at home. I'm slightly worried about the notion of clubs like oase, palace, mainhatten etc being short on the amount of candy available due to summer holidays and girls returning to their home countries for holidays etc. I know this point has been brought up many times before but I am interested in the latest observations from last summer and say for eg what the present day trend seems to be amongst the comings and goings of girls during July summer time. General thoughts on the matter will be received with much thanks. As some of you know I do not get to fly out to germany very often and so as a mature student any trip is a sizeable "investment" for me. The reason I quote investment is because it is not an investment LOL but rather money well spent on amazing fun. I would really just want the club atmosphere's to have a large enough number of babes present in them rather than turning up and finding the clubs relatively dead.
As a sidenote am I right from checking the oase website that the outside area is now completed? And does anyone know when the rest of the work on the indoor areas is due to be completed.
Thanks again
Being a mature student you should know Summer time means more potential Students and Semi-pros coming onto the scene to make some fast cash for their future investments in further education.
A potential window has opened for me to visit the playgrounds of frankfurt in early July. My plans for a megatrip are on hold for now and it is more likely I will be doing a 6 day stint in frankfurt instead due to commitments at home. I'm slightly worried about the notion of clubs like oase, palace, mainhatten etc being short on the amount of candy available due to summer holidays and girls returning to their home countries for holidays etc. I know this point has been brought up many times before but I am interested in the latest observations from last summer and say for eg what the present day trend seems to be amongst the comings and goings of girls during July summer time. General thoughts on the matter will be received with much thanks. As some of you know I do not get to fly out to germany very often and so as a mature student any trip is a sizeable "investment" for me.
Thanks again
Angus Magee
05-13-12, 12:18
I know this point has been brought up many times before but.....but I thought I would bring it up just one more time, again, perhaps to annoy the one or two posters on here who are not already annoyed with me....
Seriously, just read the thread. What possible changes could there be? It is summer, the numbers are down, you can still have a good time. End of story.
AM
and so as a mature student.I hope your tutors will allocate some of the future syllabus to the use of commas and paragraphs.
But didn't you feel like it happen. I mean didn't you feel that the condom broke? But I realize the girls always checks the condom;.pIf you go to the German bare back clubs the girl checking the condom would not be an issue.
If you go to the German bare back clubs the girl checking the condom would not be an issue.Yeah true, but he would risk some other issues instead.
Banana Boi
05-15-12, 04:42
Been to FRA 3 times since early January. Unfortunately. 2 of my visits seemed to fall during periods when many of the Romanian girls went home for vacations, Christmas and Easter. Are there other times during the year that I should avoid since many girls will be away on vacation?
I am a regular visitor of FKK clubs but still confused about DFK in public area. Normally DFK means session commitment. But some girls might kiss you with the tongue right at the beginning conversation. And they can do it so quickly so you get surprised by that.
I understand this if I already know that girls from the good session before. But what if this is a first contact? What is appropriate reaction after I deeply kissed by the girls but I have no intention to take her to the room?
I am a regular visitor of FKK clubs but still confused about DFK in public area. Normally DFK means session commitment. But some girls might kiss you with the tongue right at the beginning conversation. And they can do it so quickly so you get surprised by that.
I understand this if I already know that girls from the good session before. But what if this is a first contact? What is appropriate reaction after I deeply kissed by the girls but I have no intention to take her to the room?It's like tennis: It's a different game / situation depending on who is serving, i.e. depending on who is initiating the DFK. In the scenario you describe above: if the girl suddenly sticks her tounge in your mouth and you are unsure, uncertain, unbegeistered about takeing her to the room, or have ambiguous feelings about her in any way, the correct reaction, IMHO, would be to detach the dfk immediatly, pull away enough that you disengage the kiss. Make it clear that you did not start or want the dfk action, just yet. I think you are covered then and not automatically committed to a session. However, if you linger with your tongue in her mouth for more than a second, or if you push deeper into the dfk action, then you have changed the dynamic and are on much more tenuous ground. Again, in my opinion.
O
Nick The G
05-16-12, 00:22
but some girls might kiss you with the tongue right at the beginning conversation. and they can do it so quickly so you get surprised by that.as long as they speak, they cannot put their tongue in your mouth. if they stick their tongue into your mouth, imho verbal interaction has come to an end.
if some other person sticks a finger, tongue or penis in one of your body holes without the intention to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you, it seems to me that you have invited them to do so, or at least allow them to do so!
btw, once you are an adult person, you, and nobody else, are responsible for your behaviour!
Forcharles
05-16-12, 02:13
Dear expereince mongers,
If possible could you guys share how you evaluate whether the girls will provide good service or not? Basically what is the heuristic that you use? What are the signs she will be a shark once you go to the room? It would definetly benefit other members especially newbies in the forum?
Anyway if I made any mistake feel free to correct me and if you think that you should add please do. Many thanks!I find it difficult to judge if a girl is going to provide good service or not. I tend to go with her if she has an enthusiastic and appealing personality. Looks are important, but not the only basis for a trip to the room.
My experience has determined that it's mostly a hit and miss thing.
In Palace, I sat beside an average-looking 20-25 year-old during dinner. We hit it off really well with her good conversation and girl-next-door appeal. She did not try to sell herself or seem pushy. Later in the evening I was sitting at the bar and she approached me from behind, gave me a hug and asked if I wanted to go with her. So I went, based on my experience with her in the dining area. I really anticipated a good time in the room with some passion and kisses. But as soon as we got to the room, she upped the price to 100 for 30 minutes. I told her politely that I was not expecting the up-sale and that this was a misunderstanding. So I simply got up off the bed and left the room.
And then there are times where the girl came on strong, fondled me, pulled on my arm and made me want to keep saying "no". So I went with her and had a very good experience.
I find it difficult to judge if a girl is going to provide good service or not. I tend to go with her if she has an enthusiastic and appealing personality. Looks are important, but not the only basis for a trip to the room.
My experience has determined that it's mostly a hit and miss thing.
In Palace, I sat beside an average-looking 20-25 year-old during dinner. We hit it off really well with her good conversation and girl-next-door appeal. She did not try to sell herself or seem pushy. Later in the evening I was sitting at the bar and she approached me from behind, gave me a hug and asked if I wanted to go with her. So I went, based on my experience with her in the dining area. I really anticipated a good time in the room with some passion and kisses. But as soon as we got to the room, she upped the price to 100 for 30 minutes. I told her politely that I was not expecting the up-sale and that this was a misunderstanding. So I simply got up off the bed and left the room.
And then there are times where the girl came on strong, fondled me, pulled on my arm and made me want to keep saying "no". So I went with her and had a very good experience.True, It can sometimes be difficult to judge, at times the girls that look girl next door and friendly can be hustlers, and the Ice maiden hustlers sometimes turn out to be sweet girls and great shags.
I find it difficult to judge if a girl is going to provide good service or not. I tend to go with her if she has an enthusiastic and appealing personality. Looks are important, but not the only basis for a trip to the room.
My experience has determined that it's mostly a hit and miss thing.I totally agree Forcharles, strike it lucky and its great but a couple of misses in a row and for me things can only go downhill from there.
Previous advice on here has been to observe the girls at the payment lockers, but I've found a lot of men tend to adopt poker faces at this point and its difficult to tell whether they have had a good time or not.
But as soon as we got to the room, she upped the price to 100 for 30 minutes. I told her politely that I was not expecting the up-sale and that this was a misunderstanding. So I simply got up off the bed and left the room.Excellent response to the upsell Forcharles, I wished I'd had done that recently. I certainly will do next time.
Previous advice on here has been to observe the girls at the payment lockers, but I've found a lot of men tend to adopt poker faces at this point and its difficult to tell whether they have had a good time or not.I agree. Sometimes I have no idea observing guys when they pay the girls if they had a good time or not. The few times you see guys that keep kissing and fondling the girls and the girls letting them or giving it back to them are obvious though.
Forcharles
05-18-12, 00:11
I agree. Sometimes I have no idea observing guys when they pay the girls if they had a good time or not. The few times you see guys that keep kissing and fondling the girls and the girls letting them or giving it back to them are obvious though.If you watch the couple coming out of the room and heading for the cash boxes, you might be able to judge whether it was a good experience or not. I've seen times when the guy was walking fast in front of the girl toward the boxes and quickly paid without conversation. I take it he was not happy. Other times I've seen couples walk to the boxes holding hands or arm in arm, talking pleasantly, smiling and taking long hugs at the exchange. That appears to have been a good time and the girl is probably one I would take to the room.
You can sit near the cash boxes in Oase and watch the payments if you can find a bar stool. Same is true in Palace. In World I sit where I can observe the trek to the showers where the cash boxes are.
If you are sociable and can strike up a conversation with a fellow-monger, you might ask for some suggestions of what he would recommend. Most Germans speak English and have been very willing to talk and practice their English. It also makes the time in the FKK more enjoyable if you make friends there. You might get good ideas that you could miss.
This is no real guarantee that the girl would be a good experience for you. Everybody is different and what might appear to be a great experience for you may not be for another. I've tried going with girls based on the positive reports on this blog and sometimes it was a disaster for me.
Hessen Bub
05-18-12, 09:01
Other times I've seen couples walk to the boxes holding hands or arm in arm, talking pleasantly, smiling and taking long hugs at the exchange. That appears to have been a good time and the girl is probably one I would take to the room.Difficult. Why? Because you don't know the guy and his preferences in the room. Some guys just talk and don't even touch the girls. Others give them a massage only. Or just lick their feet for 30 minutes. Or or or. So I do rather rely on my stomach or guys I know.
HB
This remains a work in progess, but I thought that I would go ahead an post it to see if anyone has any corrections, suggestions, or what have you. I believe the format is self explanatory. I am trying to capture public transport options, hours, dessous days, convenient hotels and names of promising and not so promising girls (sorry about the spacing; the system apparently inserts spaces) :
ARTEMIS.
Dessous=WED.
Daily 11:00-5:00.
From Berlin Hfb S-Bahn to Westkreuz (walk to left)
Last return train 1:05 am.
Motel One Berlin Hauptbahnhof (walk to hotel, s-bahn to club)
Tel. : +49/30/364 10 05-0
POSITIVE.
Amelia.
Anca
Daniella
Elenna.
Erika
Fatima
Jenna.
Luczia
Lynnette-GFE.
Marketa.
Nina.
Paulina-GFE.
Romy (Spain) and a blonde girl.
Sandy romainia.
Shelby
NEGATIVE.
______________________________________________________________.
Barnds.
Dessous=none.
Mon-fri 13:00 to 24:00.
From koln hbf S12 to Blankenberg (Sieg) (Taxi)
Hotel Reuter (taxi to hotel, walk to club)
02248 912410.
POSITIVE.
NEGATIVE.
______________________________________________________________.
Goldentime.
Dessous=daily (sauna club)
Monday to Thursday: 11:00-1:00.
Friday & Saturday: 11:00-2:00.
Sunday & Public Holidays: 13:00-1:00
From dusseldorf hbf train to Kaldenkirchen and then a taxi
Last return train 22:58 then restart at 5:10.
Akzent Hotel Brüggener Klimp Haupts, Brüggen (taxi to hotel, taxi / walk to club)
02163 955-0.
POSITIVE.
NEGATIVE.
______________________________________________________________.
Golden Time Vienna.
Dessous=mon.
Daily 11:00-5:00.
From Vienna Westbahnhof tram 5 to Alserbachstraße, or.
From Vienna Westbahnhof U6 to Währinger Straße-Volksoper (walk)
Hotel Motel One Wien Westbahnhof
Tel. : +43/1/35 935 0
POSITIVE.
Brenda.
Dana.
Irina.
Vesna.
NEGATIVE.
______________________________________________________________.
Living Room.
Dessous=Daily sauna club.
Monday to Thursday 11:00-3:00
Friday, Saturday & befor public holiday 11:00-4:00
Sunday and public holiday 01:00-3:00
From dusseldorf hbf S-bahn to Kaarst IKEA (taxi)
Last return 00:10.
Park Inn by Radisson Düsseldorf Kaarst.
02131 9690.
POSITIVE.
Larissa Romainia GFE.
Sabrina Romainia GFE.
Shyira ½German GFE.
Susi De, blond hair, tall girl next door type with a nice slim figure.
NEGATIVE.
______________________________________________________________.
Mainhatten.
Dessous=Wed.
Sunday-Thursday 11:00-4:00.
Friday-Saturday 11:00-5:00.
From Frankfurt Hbf tram 11 (or 12) to stop Daimler Street (walk)
100s of Hotels around Frankfurt Hbf (walk to hotel, tram to club)
POSITIVE.
Melanie Moldova GFE.
Hannah Czech Republic GFE.
Tamira / Samira Romania GFE.
Monika Bulgaria GFE.
Simona Romania.
Aida.
JELENA Bulgaria GFE.
DAHLIA / Daria Romania
NEGATIVE.
Jessica Moldovian.
Elena Romanian.
Nikoletta Romainian.
______________________________________________________________.
OASE.
Dessous=Thursday.
Sunday. Tuesday 10:00-4:00.
Wednesday. Saturday 10:00-5:00.
From Frankfurt Hbf S5 to Bad Homburg (more taxis) or Friedrichsdorf (fewer taxis)
Last train 00:15.
Mercure Hotel Bad Homburg Friedrichsdorf (walk to hotel, taxi to club)
06172 7390.
POSITIVE.
Alexandria.
Alexia.
Amanda.
Amira.
Anca
Carmen
Deborah
Diana.
ERICA.
Ivannah.
Jessica.
JUDITH
Judy
Nelly
Sammy.
Sascha
NEGATIVE.
______________________________________________________________.
Palace.
Dessous=WED.
Daily 10:00-4:00.
From Frankfurt Hfb S1, S2, S3, S4, S8, or S9 (tracks 101 and 102) to Hauptwache. Then the U6 or U7 line towards Heerstraße / Hausen to Industriehof. (walk down Konigsberger Strasse 23)
Last return train 11:59 but busses run all night.
Hotel Ibis Frankfurt City West (Walk to hotel, walk to club)
06172 7390.
POSITIVE.
Gitta. Hungary.
Janita, Bulgarian.
Jenny. Germany.
Malena. Germany
SOPHIE
NEGATIVE.
Alexandra / Angelina-egypt.
Eliza-ukrane.
Gina
______________________________________________________________.
Planet Happy Garden.
Dessous=Daily (sauna club)
Mon-Thurs: 11:00-1:00.
Fri-Sat: 11; 00-3:00.
Sun: 13:00-1:00.
Train from Düsseldorf to Kempen (taxi)
Hotel Papillon (walk to hotel, taxi to club)
02152 14150.
POSITIVE.
NEGATIVE.
Carina
Leona – ROM.
______________________________________________________________.
Samya.
Dessous=Daily (sauna club)
Mon-Thurs 11:00-1:00.
Fri-Sat 11:00-3:00.
Sundays and Holidays 13:00-1:00.
From koln hbf U-16 to Michaelshoven (walk)
HOTEL FALDERHOF (walk to hotel, walk to club)
02236 96699-0.
POSITIVE.
Korina
Maggie / Magdalena.
Cornelia
NEGATIVE.
Myky
Gina
______________________________________________________________.
Villa Vertigo.
Dessous=Daily (sauna club)
Mon-Thurs: 11:00-1:00.
Fri-Sat: 11; 00-3:00.
Sun: 13:00-1:00.
HOTEL HAFFMANS (taxi to hotel, walk to club)
02158 9166-0.
From Düsseldorf U70, U76 to Krefeld, Rheinstraße (taxi)
POSITIVE.
NEGATIVE.
______________________________________________________________.
WORLD.
Dessous=tue.
Sunday-Thursday 11:00-4:00.
Friday-Saturday 11:00-5:00.
From Frankfurt Hbf train to Giessen then taxi.
Last train 00:08 then restart at 4:14.
City Hotel Giessen (walk to hotel, taxi to club)
0641 93237-0.
POSITIVE.
Jenny.
NEGATIVE
If possible could you guys share how you evaluate whether the girls will provide good service or not?Many guys lost FKK virginity because I brought them there. Usually I recommend them girls with proven room performance who were tested by myself. But my friends not always get as good service as I received from the same girls.
I also noted that the more I visit FKK the higher percentage of good sessions I have.
In my opinion both cases described above prove that good room service depends not on girls only but on mongers as well. I'll explain what I mean. When you speak to the girl she can understand what level of FKK experience you have. I think that the smart girls will provide better service to the experienced guys than to inexperienced.
Being with more girls you learn how to behave in the room. Some girls are responsive. You good to them, they good to you.
So, experience is the best teacher. I don't think that advices on this forum will really help. Just hints.
Nille Copenhagen
05-19-12, 08:54
In my opinion both cases described above prove that good room service depends not on girls only but on mongers as well. I'll explain what I mean. When you speak to the girl she can understand what level of FKK experience you have. I think that the smart girls will provide better service to the experienced guys than to inexperienced.
Being with more girls you learn how to behave in the room. Some girls are responsive. You good to them, they good to you.
So, experience is the best teacher. I don't think that advices on this forum will really help. Just hints.Totally agreed here, it's is not only FKK experiences, but monger experiences in general and how to interact with girls. In the end is the chemistry and between you and her that counts.
Amriptna111
05-19-12, 19:15
Totally agreed here, it's is not only FKK experiences, but monger experiences in general and how to interact with girls. In the end is the chemistry and between you and her that counts.Yeah you know it is like LOVE;.p.
Apparently cupid works extra hard at FKK's. I wonder does cupid charge extra for CIM and ANAL.
Many guys lost FKK virginity because I brought them there. Usually I recommend them girls with proven room performance who were tested by myself. But my friends not always get as good service as I received from the same girls.
I also noted that the more I visit FKK the higher percentage of good sessions I have.
In my opinion both cases described above prove that good room service depends not on girls only but on mongers as well. I'll explain what I mean. When you speak to the girl she can understand what level of FKK experience you have. I think that the smart girls will provide better service to the experienced guys than to inexperienced.
Being with more girls you learn how to behave in the room. Some girls are responsive. You good to them, they good to you.
So, experience is the best teacher. I don't think that advices on this forum will really help. Just hints.I agree as well. I have a couple of friends I monger out with. One of them consistently gets poor service. He is a a very a gem of a guy and smart too but I guess he does not know how to handle girls. .
There is no easy way to to predict though. If there is, we would not be having this discussion. All of us would be getting great service 100% of the time. All the tips and hints on this forum did help me tremendously over the years and I continue to learn.
Super Cum 500
05-20-12, 04:01
Can you get stds easy from eating the hookers pussy? I'd imagine so? ANd what stds? At least not aids but perhaps hepres then you have a lip full of spots for days?
Well I want to eat out hot girls in the FKK but I don't think its a good idea, do you guys? And anything to report back?
Cheers
Angus Magee
05-20-12, 08:05
Remember, don't feed the troll guys.
AM
Amriptna111
05-20-12, 09:15
Hi,
Currently based on the the girl line up and I am talking about optifuck which has better line up in your opinion between palace, oase and world?
P / s is it worth going to world compared to oase? I have never been to world as it seems hard to go there.
Regards,
Hi Guys
I am due to visit Berlin in mid June and I love having a thai massage and sauna. I was wondering if any of you in the forum could tell me of any nice places to visit in Berlin city centre or as near the city as possible. I don't want to visit a thai massage where there is only a so called happy ending with a HJ or a BJ but I am looking for a full personal service, also I would like to know prices for these places such as entrance fees and full personal service fees thanks guys for your info
Del.
Hi,
Currently based on the the girl line up and I am talking about optifuck which has better line up in your opinion between palace, oase and world?
P / s is it worth going to world compared to oase? I have never been to world as it seems hard to go there.
RegardsIf you've never been to World, then it's worth at least one visit in my opinion. And remember, the quality of the line-ups changes. Is it worth it? Ultimately you need to decide that for yourself. The only way for you to know for sure is to go one time and see and experience on your own. The other thing is that World belongs in the FKK "big leagues". There are many FKKs I have not been to, but I don't care because I only play in the "Premiere League", which includes World and several other clubs that get reported on the most. If you want to be a Premiere League player, then you need to have played at World, among a several other FKKs.
Nick The G
05-21-12, 15:00
I have never been to world as it seems hard to go there.Some mongers here seem to like and cultivate the "hard life" approach.
May I suggest, that if you rent a car, it becomes a lot easier to travel to FKK-World in Pohlheim-Garbenteich!
And one thing to keep in mind too: many of the girls from Romania and Bulgaria come with the bus! That will take them approx. 48 hours on the bus to reach the club.
Angus Magee
05-21-12, 15:04
And one thing to keep in mind too: many of the girls from Romania and Bulgaria come with the bus! That will take them approx. 48 hours on the bus to reach the club.Some how it seems fitting that there should be a direct Bucharest World bus link. That is one bus ride that might e kind of fun.
AM
As I continue to prepare for my next ascention into Monger Heaven in less than 2 weeks I continue to scour the boards / threads for information, clues & suggestions to make for a more enjoyable experience. And I thank those that have provided intelligence & replied to my questions.
But I have also observed a trend that is disturbing: an increase in the number of questions & people asking them that cause me to wonder: Are they Serious? Sometimes I wonder if the person could find their way across the street, never mind locate a discreetly set brothel (FKK Club) & a good service provider inside?
The most recent trend, that FKK World is too hard to get to is interesting.
FKK World: The Magical Mystery Tour.
How is it hard to get too? In a recent post on the World thread a newbie to that club laid out clearly the methods and the costs of getting to World. Interestingly, change the town names, the train numbers, and the prices and you can describe a trip to Oase! Or Sharks! Take a train to such-&-such town, then cab it to the club. Fin. Hint: if your worried the cabbie won't understand you, print out the address on a card. I've never been cheated by a German cab, that I know of. lol It's the same dealing with the girls: don't look (act) like a victim! Be confident, ascertive!
Use the DB app on your iPhone or the full web site on a computer (good for planing a return trip) or go into their office in the Frankfurt Hbf & they will help you, even in English.
I successfully visited World 2 years ago based on info from this board & the DB. World is on my agenda again this trip.
Sorry for the rant. And don't get me wrong, everyone is entitled to their questions. Just keep them real.
Myr.
Amriptna111
05-21-12, 16:44
As I continue to prepare for my next ascention into Monger Heaven in less than 2 weeks I continue to scour the boards / threads for information, clues & suggestions to make for a more enjoyable experience. And I thank those that have provided intelligence & replied to my questions.
But I have also observed a trend that is disturbing: an increase in the number of questions & people asking them that cause me to wonder: Are they Serious? Sometimes I wonder if the person could find their way across the street, never mind locate a discreetly set brothel (FKK Club) & a good service provider inside?
The most recent trend, that FKK World is too hard to get to is interesting.
Myr.Everyone has the right to ask a question and if other mongers want to help then let them. If you don't like what you read just don't read it. Easy simple solution for your source of agitation.
Everyone has the right to ask a question and if other mongers want to help then let them. If you don't like what you read just don't read it. Easy simple solution for your source of agitation.Sorry, I'm not agitated. And my post did acknowledge everyones right to question, etc.
The Ignore List is another good option.
M.
Hessen Bub
05-21-12, 16:59
many of the girls from Romania and Bulgaria come with the bus! That will take them approx. 48 hours on the bus to reach the club.True, most of them come by bus. But most trips from Romania are under 36 hours, usually around 24 hours. Still a long trip, but most of them make travel arrangements with too short notice to get good deals on flights. And on the bus you can take a lot more luggage.
HB
Nille Copenhagen
05-21-12, 17:30
Some mongers here seem to like and cultivate the "hard life" approach.
May I suggest, that if you rent a car, it becomes a lot easier to travel to FKK-World in Pohlheim-Garbenteich!
And one thing to keep in mind too: many of the girls from Romania and Bulgaria come with the bus! That will take them approx. 48 hours on the bus to reach the club.That is the bus number?
I'll like to take that bus, wondering if the girls would offer a public BJ on the bus.
Sorry, I'm not agitated. And my post did acknowledge everyones right to question, etc.
The Ignore List is another good option.
M.Nevertheless, your original post had made a very, very valid point, esp about a recent trend. As AM has correctly identified: there are trolls lurking. I think you are bang on, Myrm!
O
Super Cum 500
05-21-12, 21:32
Remember, don't feed the troll guys.
AMTbh F off mate. I have serious questions. If you don't liek them then F off. Just cause I ask a lot of questions I aint no troll. Don't like it, ignore it. Te; ling other members not to answer me when I'm looking for help go f yourself. When I go on trips and retrun detailed info and post help back such as my prague reports. I won't bother doing the same in future shall I if you are just acting like this. I'm young and don't know much about any this.
Some how it seems fitting that there should be a direct Bucharest World bus link. That is one bus ride that might e kind of fun.
AMIt would be fun only if you know Romanian. I travelled in Romania and I was in situations where I was surrounded by hotties (like your bus scenario) and I noticed that girls do not like to engage in conversation in any other language other than Romanian. This is I found to be especially true when they are in a group or with friends.
Hi,
Currently based on the the girl line up and I am talking about optifuck which has better line up in your opinion between palace, oase and world?
P / s is it worth going to world compared to oase? I have never been to world as it seems hard to go there.
Regards, I think it is definitely worth going to at least once and then you can decide for yourself.
It is farther out but so it is expensive and takes longer to get to but not difficult. It is quite easy to get to if you take the train and taxi combo. If you are driving though, I recommend you plan your route on paper map before, as the GPS system for some reason almost always misleads me on my way to world.
Originally Posted by Massimoweb [View Original Post]
Thanks! It means that I will visit DolceVita. As far as I know from the first three days of the week it is FKK day and the girls are naked.
Now, Sunday also is FKK day, and the girls are litearally naked (till 8 pm).
During th evening and late night, this is a different story.I am bringing this over from another thread as I think this discussion belongs here.
I personally prefer lingerie over fully naked. Somehow I think that is sexier. Different strokes for different people.
I do like lingerie days at FKK over sauna clubs. It is easier to look good in a lingerie. The ones that work in FKK have to look good naked so hopefully they have good bodies under the lingerie. In a sauna club, they are in lingerie all the time so there may be a higher chance of finding a surprise there. That is my theory. Does it make sense? :-) (smile)
I personally prefer lingerie over fully naked. Somehow I think that is sexier. Different strokes for different people.I prefer full nudity. But I agree: girls in lingerie look sexier and more beautiful. No wonder, they know how to hide not the best parts of their bodies under sexy outfits. Maybe this is one the reasons why sometimes we tell that line-up in Aca or VV is the better than in Hesse clubs. Girls in lingerie look better. But anyway I like them nude.
You walk into a club and a fat chick is blocking the rolls, two hours latet she's still eating. And the club just turned away two cute girls. Most of the girls are 'thick', who's doing the hiring? And its a well known club. Did the owner put an x worker in charge and she can't imagine her old friends being out of work?
Nille Copenhagen
05-22-12, 12:38
You walk into a club and a fat chick is blocking the rolls, two hours latet she's still eating. And the club just turned away two cute girls. Most of the girls are 'thick', who's doing the hiring? And its a well known club. Did the owner put an x worker in charge and she can't imagine her old friends being out of work?Which club?
Actually the fat girls also have their fans,
For me I prefer slim girls.
Angus Magee
05-23-12, 20:33
Presumably graduating from hooker school? How many of these ladies will we be seeng in an FKK soon.
http://imgur.com/a/l9bwf
AM
I prefer full nudity precisely because it's easier to look sexy in lingerie! For me if the girl is nude there's no question if she's attractive or not. I don't have to wonder if the lingerie is hiding some flaw or if it's just an average girl in a great outfit. It does take away some of the magic of getting to see the girl disrobe, which can be quite exciting. But, as happened to me on my last trip to Palace, clothed girls can lead to a big letdown. I got tricked into going with a girl with fake tits that I definitely would have spotted if she was nude. That was dress night though, not lingerie night.
I could see if you're local that lingerie night would be a good change of pace, but I maybe get to Frankfurt a few times a year and I want to make the most of it. If I want surprises and to see a girl strip, I can (and do) go to the RLD. Thankfully I've never had a bad surprise there!
Speaking of these theme nights, does anyone know which are the theme nights at Palace? I'm heading back in August and I'll probably go there as well as Oase and Mainhatten, but while the latter two clubs list the theme nights on their websites. I can't find the list for Palace.
HungryStud101
05-24-12, 00:33
Presumably graduating from hooker school? How many of these ladies will we be seeng in an FKK soon.
http://imgur.com/a/l9bwf
AMThere is a blond with curly hair in black lingerie / gown I would love to session with. This looks alot like ghetto proms in the USA except there are no basketball jerseys and the chicks are way hotter!
Presumably graduating from hooker school? How many of these ladies will we be seeng in an FKK soon.
http://imgur.com/a/l9bwf
AMI was In Sofia a couple of years ago, and a lot of the women to dress 'Hooker chic' LOL
Just a poll to know what's the norm for readers of this forum. How many times do you pay (pun intended) visit to a FKK during a year. I see a lot of you guys do manage to visit them during weekdays, which is rarely possible for me due to work. So do you visit the clubs because of worktrips to Germany or just P4P holiday?
Just a poll to know what's the norm for readers of this forum. How many times do you pay (pun intended) visit to a FKK during a year. I see a lot of you guys do manage to visit them during weekdays, which is rarely possible for me due to work. So do you visit the clubs because of worktrips to Germany or just P4P holiday?Speaking only for myself: p4p holiday. I visit at least one FKK every day I am in Germany. Why do you ask the question? What difference does it make how often other people visit FKKs? Any data gathered would be meaningless anyway, because the numbers would be very different between those who live in Germany, those who visit Germany frequently on business, and those like myself who come only infrequently as sex tourists.
Why do you ask the question?Just by curiosity! I do have certain worktrips that coincide with this hobby, but have been doing some weekend holidays as well at some FKKs. I just wonder as I rarely see the opportunity to visit any clubs on weekdays without taking a day off work, and often have to plan trips long time ahead. And the lounge seems like a good place to get the picture of how some people manage to do many clubs successively during weekdays.
Member #4243
06-06-12, 14:00
Twice a year on holidays for clubs. Would move into a club getting a room with the girls if management agreed!
Member #4243
06-06-12, 15:59
With regards to events in frankfurt such as automechanika and similar large events at the berlin messe the advice has always been to avoid these dates due to swarms of visitors at the well known fkk clubs and inflated hotel prices etc. My window of opportunity for another fkk trip may be pushed back to early September so I would like to know what is the atmosphere like in the few days before and after these large messe events? Have the crowds usually disappeared or not appeared yet in that time frame or is there still considerable presence still apparent having an impact on our beloved clubs?
Many thanks
With regards to events in frankfurt such as automechanika and similar large events at the berlin messe the advice has always been to avoid these dates due to swarms of visitors at the well known fkk clubs and inflated hotel prices etc. My window of opportunity for another fkk trip may be pushed back to early September so I would like to know what is the atmosphere like in the few days before and after these large messe events? Have the crowds usually disappeared or not appeared yet in that time frame or is there still considerable presence still apparent having an impact on our beloved clubs?
Many thanksHi Mohab, for your information, I'll be attending the Automechanika messe myself, from 11-16 September. Looking forward to it, but not looking forward to the messecrowd in the clubs. The Automechanikamesse would be expecting approximately 150. 000 visitors, so you can just imagine how it would effect the clubs even when a small pourcentage of these actually will go to a FKK. When I was in Berlin, several of the Artemis girls showed interest in going to Frankfurt during the messedays, and some of them had good knowledge both of this and IAA (which was last year during same period). My hotel is in walking distance to Mainhattan, so I'll probably go into the club once or twice, if it's not too crowded. I would expect the clubs to have by the weekend before (I. E September 7-9) to have a great line-up, getting ready for the crowd, then they'll stay until September 16. I have already decided to try out Oase and World during the weekend! The hotel prices are already inflated BTW, but the hotels near FKK World (Giessen) are still reasonably priced!
Member #4243
06-07-12, 00:04
Interesting to find out that the weekend before the messe may cause the lineup of babes to be of a higher standard in advance of the swarms of messe influx. That would or may just work out great for me as at the moment I am contemplating either a frankfurt or berlin week of fun from 5/9 to 12/9. This would then enable me to testdrive the higher than usual quality of girls available and to then escape back to england before the messe posse really kick in. Are you likely to be in oase the weekend before the messe then? Maybe we could meet up. Also where is occulutus's much anticipated reports for may and June? I'm still waiting LOL! Finally if the messe starts on 11/9 would the frankfurt clubs be largely unaffected before this date or is there still a pre messe crowd clogging things up? Many thanks mo.
Hello,
This is my first post so please bear with me.
I will be in Europe over the new year period and was considering visiting Frankfurt after New Year. Probably 3rd to 5th January. But I wondered if this is a good or bad time of year to visit? Whether many of the FKK girls will be away over Christmas and New year and there will be a poor selection?
Can anyone help?
Thanks
Are you likely to be in oase the weekend before the messe then?No, I won't be able to be there the weekend before, as my tickets are already booked, but I'll certainly be at Oase / World the last weekend, September 14-16.
Maybe we could meet up. Also where is occulutus's much anticipated reports for may and June? I'm still waiting LOL!No wonder, Occultus had extended his trip to include Frankfurt as well as Berlin. He's in resting mode, but I am sure his highly anticipated review of the girls and clubs will be hitting the forum soon. Your fans are waiting Occultus!
Angus Magee
06-08-12, 18:39
Hello,
This is my first post so please bear with me.
I will be in Europe over the new year period and was considering visiting Frankfurt after New Year. Probably 3rd to 5th January. But I wondered if this is a good or bad time of year to visit? Whether many of the FKK girls will be away over Christmas and New year and there will be a poor selection?
Can anyone help?
ThanksWell, it is not a great time to visit the clubs for just the reason you mention. Then again if it is the time you have there are always some girls working, just not quite the selection of stunners there may be at other times. Personally I find this time of year to have the advantage of being quite a bit more relaxed than in the middle of a busy time.
AM
Member #4243
06-08-12, 20:20
Assuming members had the opportunity to spend one week in Berlin or one week in Frankfurt and also assuming that transport / hotel and living expenses were more or less equal in both cities. I would like to know where members would choose to spend their time and hard earnt money considering; Frankfurt; lower session costs than Artemis, lovely friendly nature of girls at Oase not found as much in Berlin and opportunity to visit more than one club. Berlin; Artemis in my opinion has the greatest hardware of any club immensely relaxing. Berlin is a far more interesting city than Frankfurt hence making it easier to display some degree of illusion of being in Germany for more than grade A ass. A little less expensive day to day than Frankfurt and more blonde haired Germanic / Polish types at Artemis than in Frankfurt. However if my budget stretched to 4 four full days in clubs over one week allowing me to do 10 lots of 1 hour sessions Artemis including slightly more expensive entry costs as compared to Frankfurt clubs would work out at approximately 260 euros more or 215 British pounds. Although this sounds like a lot but if you consider I only get out to Germany at most twice a year it is just about acceptable. Okay so I have summed up all the pros and cons of Frankfurt vs Artemis Berlin as applicable to me and probably for quite a few others too. I have to make a decision between the two cities. My question simply is where would you go given the above? Maybe even a little poll here could be useful not just for me but for incoming members new to the fkk experience. All replies will ultimately help me put this into a clearer perspective and reach a more informed decision.
Many thanks.
HungryStud101
06-08-12, 21:49
Hello,
This is my first post so please bear with me.
I will be in Europe over the new year period and was considering visiting Frankfurt after New Year. Probably 3rd to 5th January. But I wondered if this is a good or bad time of year to visit? Whether many of the FKK girls will be away over Christmas and New year and there will be a poor selection?
Can anyone help?
ThanksIf you have never been to an FKK, when you walk in for your first time you will think that you died and gone to heaven. Go to Oase.
Well, it is not a great time to visit the clubs for just the reason you mention. Then again if it is the time you have there are always some girls working, just not quite the selection of stunners there may be at other times. Personally I find this time of year to have the advantage of being quite a bit more relaxed than in the middle of a busy time.
AMThanks to you both. I wondered whether Amsterdam would be a better option. I'm keen to party with the hottest women possible due to the limited chance to get to Europe.
Angus Magee
06-09-12, 08:42
Thanks to you both. I wondered whether Amsterdam would be a better option. I'm keen to party with the hottest women possible due to the limited chance to get to Europe.That time of year I think anywhere that you go you will find a lot of girls on vacation. And personally the FKK scene is way better than anything you will find in Amsterdam.
AM
Yes, as a Dutchman I would definitely advise going the FKK route (if you're looking for p6). I was in the Oase and World at the end of December and there line up was pretty much the same as in November. Some girls were going home, but many were staying over the holidays (economic crisis right). In any case, having 70 girls instead of 100 girls, really shouldn't be a problem. It will also be quieter with customers, as there are family obligations and business in Frankfurt isn't the busiest.
Thanks to you both. I wondered whether Amsterdam would be a better option. I'm keen to party with the hottest women possible due to the limited chance to get to Europe.Hey Roba333-
It's a bit hard to tell from your posts, but you give the impression that you may be new to the European mongering scene, altogether. Strictly from a mongering standpoint, if you are trying to compare a Frankfurt area FKK experience with possibly an Amsterdam Red Light experience, there is little comparison beyond the point that you will have sex with a working girl in both places, IMHO. Mongering with the window girls in Amsterdam can be fun, but, is pretty much a quick few minutes with your choice of a girl to get off and get out. If that's what you want to do, and then shift gears, to pursue some of Amsterdam's other somewhat unique offerings, you'll have to decide. And, the parts of Amsterdam that you are likely to want to spend your time in are very compact and walkable. But, that's not really the focus of this forum.
Going to an FKK club has so much more to offer beyond just the actually sex that you will probably be having. It can be your entire activity for the day, with food, drink, relaxation, with non-stop eye candy included. And, January is a nice time to plan your punter agenda inside, where it's warm and cozy, not outside walking the cold streets. If you are interested in the Amsterdam style pursuit, Frankfurt has the many Eros Center girls just a few blocks outside the HBF, which is somewhat comparable, with the exception, that you will spend more time inside climbing a lot of stairs. Believe me, these experiences can be very unpredictable from lady to lady, compared to the expectations that you are likely to have at an FKK!
It's a topic that's been dissected over and over, and if you read back through old posts, you can read a wide range of opinions about going to Area X, as opposed to going to Area Y. But, in the end, you will have to decide, based on your own individual expectations, for your own personal journey.
Horbate
Mexican Lover
06-09-12, 21:59
Hello fellow mongers,
It is my first time mongering in Germany.
1. Can you please advise as to which of the following clubs have women completely nude walking around like the Frankfurt FKK clubs and which ones are easy to get to with pubic transportation (just mark easy or difficult, I will find out rest)
Goldentime.
Villa vertigo.
Samya.
Pascha.
Living Room.
Acapulco.
Dolce vita.
2. Which are the best clubs for GFE experience in the area.
3. Which are the best 'one fee, as many women as you can have' clubs (do not want gang bangs) although I read in some forums that these clubs tend to have 20 min cut-off sessions and service not-so-good, but I am sure there are a couple that are very good.
Good job all the fellow mongers with the posts, helped me a lot, promise to report as soon as I am done with the good deed / deeds.
Cheerios
Thanks to you both. I wondered whether Amsterdam would be a better option. I'm keen to party with the hottest women possible due to the limited chance to get to Europe.Amsterdam window girls and a German Fkk is like comparing a McDonalds Big Mac and a decent home made meal.
Amsterdam window girls and a German Fkk is like comparing a McDonalds Big Mac and a decent home made meal.Yep.
Was there 2 days ago, not for mongering. I go there at least a couple of times a year.
The window girl thing is complete crap, imo. And it's getting worse and worse.
Amsterdam is a nice place for sightseeing, playing the tourist or hanging around in coffeeshops and restaurant, not for the window girls.
But I'm sure there's other options there for p4f.
Don't consider it an alternative to Berlin, Frankfurt or NRW.
Ciao.
Kimino
Amsterdam window girls and a German Fkk is like comparing a McDonalds Big Mac and a decent home made meal.I consider Amsterdam window girls as a part of city's tourist attractions, but not as alternative to FKK. I tried it once back in 2000 or so. Good enough to newer go there again.
Assuming members had the opportunity to spend one week in Berlin or one week in Frankfurt and also assuming that transport / hotel and living expenses were more or less equal in both cities. I would like to know where members would choose to spend their time and hard earnt money considering; Frankfurt; lower session costs than Artemis, lovely friendly nature of girls at Oase not found as much in Berlin and opportunity to visit more than one club. Berlin; Artemis in my opinion has the greatest hardware of any club immensely relaxing.
Many thanks.Ciao Mohab.
If I could only visit FKKs. 4 times over a 6 day period, I would choose Frankfurt. Simply because going 4 times in a row to Artemis (that I consider number 1 Fkk among the ones I visited) might result "boring", but that's personal.
In Frankfurt you could visit a different Fkk every day.
But, Berlin is not only Artemis. There's a lot more, a lot! Flat rates, brothels for any budget, gang bang places, etc. Etc.
Take a look at Angus Blog on the Berlin scene, bunch of info there and read Berlin's thread.
So, if visiting only Fkks is not a rule or if you know that getting "bored" is not an issue, go to Berlin and enjoy both girls and sightseeing. Otherwise go to Frankfurt.
My2cents.
Kimino
Assuming members had the opportunity to spend one week in Berlin or one week in Frankfurt and also assuming that transport / hotel and living expenses were more or less equal in both cities. I would like to know where members would choose to spend their time and hard earnt money considering; Frankfurt; lower session costs than Artemis, lovely friendly nature of girls at Oase not found as much in Berlin and opportunity to visit more than one club. Berlin; Artemis in my opinion has the greatest hardware of any club immensely relaxing. Berlin is a far more interesting city than Frankfurt hence making it easier to display some degree of illusion of being in Germany for more than grade A ass. A little less expensive day to day than Frankfurt and more blonde haired Germanic / Polish types at Artemis than in Frankfurt. However if my budget stretched to 4 four full days in clubs over one week allowing me to do 10 lots of 1 hour sessions Artemis including slightly more expensive entry costs as compared to Frankfurt clubs would work out at approximately 260 euros more or 215 British pounds. Although this sounds like a lot but if you consider I only get out to Germany at most twice a year it is just about acceptable. Okay so I have summed up all the pros and cons of Frankfurt vs Artemis Berlin as applicable to me and probably for quite a few others too. I have to make a decision between the two cities. My question simply is where would you go given the above? Maybe even a little poll here could be useful not just for me but for incoming members new to the fkk experience. All replies will ultimately help me put this into a clearer perspective and reach a more informed decision.
Many thanks.
Although Artemis girls are more beautiful and some have that nordic look that we like but I inevitably start missing the lovely and friendly natured girls at Oase during my trips to Artemis. IMO, the quality of sex at Oase is only duplicated at Club Globe of Zurich, however, my friend who sometimes accompanies me to these trips to FKKland fails to see the difference. But I explained to myself this unusual difference of opinion on account of his rather hefty form.
Hello fellow mongers,
It is my first time mongering in Germany.
1. Can you please advise as to which of the following clubs have women completely nude walking around like the Frankfurt FKK clubs and which ones are easy to get to with pubic transportation (just mark easy or difficult, I will find out rest)
Goldentime.
Villa vertigo.
Samya.
Pascha.
Living Room.
Acapulco.
Dolce vita.
2. Which are the best clubs for GFE experience in the area.
3. Which are the best 'one fee, as many women as you can have' clubs (do not want gang bangs) although I read in some forums that these clubs tend to have 20 min cut-off sessions and service not-so-good, but I am sure there are a couple that are very good.
Good job all the fellow mongers with the posts, helped me a lot, promise to report as soon as I am done with the good deed / deeds.
CheeriosPubic transport: nicer and new concept.
More seriously: I recommeand Bernds as the one for GFE, combined with pub (l) ic action. But it is closed on weeke ends and bank holidays.
Hey Roba333-
It's a bit hard to tell from your posts, but you give the impression that you may be new to the European mongering scene, altogether. Strictly from a mongering standpoint, if you are trying to compare a Frankfurt area FKK experience with possibly an Amsterdam Red Light experience, there is little comparison beyond the point that you will have sex with a working girl in both places, IMHO. Mongering with the window girls in Amsterdam can be fun, but, is pretty much a quick few minutes with your choice of a girl to get off and get out. If that's what you want to do, and then shift gears, to pursue some of Amsterdam's other somewhat unique offerings, you'll have to decide. And, the parts of Amsterdam that you are likely to want to spend your time in are very compact and walkable. But, that's not really the focus of this forum.
Going to an FKK club has so much more to offer beyond just the actually sex that you will probably be having. It can be your entire activity for the day, with food, drink, relaxation, with non-stop eye candy included. And, January is a nice time to plan your punter agenda inside, where it's warm and cozy, not outside walking the cold streets. If you are interested in the Amsterdam style pursuit, Frankfurt has the many Eros Center girls just a few blocks outside the HBF, which is somewhat comparable, with the exception, that you will spend more time inside climbing a lot of stairs. Believe me, these experiences can be very unpredictable from lady to lady, compared to the expectations that you are likely to have at an FKK!
It's a topic that's been dissected over and over, and if you read back through old posts, you can read a wide range of opinions about going to Area X, as opposed to going to Area Y. But, in the end, you will have to decide, based on your own individual expectations, for your own personal journey.
HorbateHey thanks for your detailed erply.
I guess I'm looking to fulfill a number of fantasies when I do attend an FKK or other establishment. I just want to ensure I get the best experience, money not such an issue, and that I get the most beautiful girls, I don't want to come all the way to europe for some ropey looking middle aged hookers I could get anywhere!
. which ones are easy to get to with pubic transportation (just mark easy or difficult, I will find out rest) .Goldentime. Rather difficult
Acapulco: difficult.
Villa vertigo: dificult
Samya: excellent. Cologne HBF / Dom with U16 in direction Bad Godesberg / Sürth. 24 minutes (station: Michaelshoven). When 10 minutes walk, easy and convenient.
Living Room: very good. Duesseldorf HBF with so-called "Kaarster Bahn" to Kaarst-IKEA (station, around 25 minutes). When 500 meters walking distance.
Dolce Vita: also very easy. Take the S-Bahn at Duesseldorf HBF
Pascha: it's the Cologne brothel - no need to go
http://www.bahn.de
Montecristo
06-11-12, 01:39
I know some stuff has been written about this, but I never went to a FKK, and having the chance of spending time and money on a mongering activity in this summer I must decide what option I should try.
I will have a limited budget, but perhaps 50 days to spare.
In Germany everthing will be more expensive, each normal FKK trip will always cost around 250-300 euros, lodging and food is also more expensive, I think my budget will stand for no more than 3 weeks.
In Thailand (where I already have been) , I think I will be able to stay more than twice the time, but, by the reports I have been reading the FKK experience is a must for every monger, and many of you talk about "heaven on earth", the question is is it worth to "loose" 25-30 days of vacations to have 2-3 weeks really special, or do you think I will get bored after 4-5 visits in a row? In Thailand I don't get bored.
I will also be able to make a stop over for a few hours in Frankfurt in transit to Bangkok which will allow two quick visits to a FKK.
Everything seems to indicate 40-50 days in Thailand will be wiser than 15 days in Frankfurt (or other German zone) , but I recognize girls quality level is sometimes low in Thailand (specially Pattaya) , its common for mongers to classify the girls around a 5 and a 7, and in the FKK reports people keep talking about 8, 9 and 10's all the time.
Thanks in advance.
Montecristo
HungryStud101
06-11-12, 02:31
This is personal preference. I have been to Phukett and I loved it but it was a different experience. I have hobbied a lot in North America and quite a bit in South America and I will say that you will have a tough time beating the value of the FKK. There is a lot of talent and quite a bit of variety. You will see an endless supply of 7 and 8's and a few 9's. I even ran into a 10 last visit. And you can have them all for 50 euro a piece! If you get that special 8-9 you can spend an hour with her and have some extras. At the end of the day, all you need is a place to crash. Pick the cheapest hotel you can find and eat and drink nearly all your meals and shower at the FKK.
From my limited experience, the girls at the FKK are better looking than the girls of Thailand and the girls at the FKK are all girls which is another bonus.
I will also be able to make a stop over for a few hours in Frankfurt in transit to Bangkok which will allow two quick visits to a FKK.
MontecristoWhy not stop over for a few days in Frankfurt rather than a few hours?
The answer: do both.
Go to a couple of FKKs during your stoppovers.
In Thailand go to Bangkok and pick up a cuttie to go with you around the country. It shouldn't be tough.
Then enjoy threesomes or more during the rest of your trip. You will find what you need asnyou travel around.
Enjoy
Angus Magee
06-11-12, 10:53
. ....and the girls at the FKK are all girls which is another bonus.A very good observation. ;)
Personally I don't think one can really compare the two, Thailand vs German FKK. The experience is just too different. An FKK has such a greater variety of women and the encounters are all short time. So variety plays a huge part in the experience.
A longer Thai adventure you will inevitable start to take the girls for longer times, over nights and even longer. So you do get to know and even feel a little attached to some girls. That and the girls themselves tend to be much less sophisticated farm girls and such. So while it is a pleasant experience, after a while I know I started to want girls who were a little more worldly.
As for the looks, if you like the Asian look Thailand is a veritable Disney land. But that is all you get there unless you start trolling the back allies of BKK or Pattaya for Russians, and this I do not recommend.
Montecristo
06-11-12, 13:03
Why not stop over for a few days in Frankfurt rather than a few hours?My flight has a connection in Frankfurt, a change in the ticket would rise the price in several hundred euros.
I'll be having a layover in Düsseldorf. Will arrive a Friday, last week of September at Düsseldorf airport around 6 PM. I will leave with the next flight Saturday morning at 7:20 AM. I really don't know what to do all the night waiting for my next flight?.) LOL...
Of course just kidding, as this will give me a window of opportunity to visit a club in the NRW area. As I am a complete newbie to clubs in the Düsseldorf area, I would ask you guys:
- What club should I visit, given the timetable, preferably close to the airport? Dolce Vita, Blue Note, LR, PHG?
- Is it possible to come with a suitcase and leave it in a storage room in these clubs or is it difficult, or would I be better off leaving any luggage in one of the airport lockers?
Thanks for any help!
and the girls at the FKK are all girls which is another bonus.Haha, are you really sure about that? I have never been to Thailand, but I can assure you that a certain girl I met at FKK Palace was not originally a girl, but a post-op TS from a certain country (won't mention which one. I hate to spoil the surprise!) in Asia.
She did some advances, but my spider senses warned me and I got my assumption confirmed by one of the real girls!
HungryStud101
06-12-12, 03:21
Haha, are you really sure about that? I have never been to Thailand, but I can assure you that a certain girl I met at FKK Palace was not originally a girl, but a post-op TS from a certain country (won't mention which one. I hate to spoil the surprise!) in Asia.
She did some advances, but my spider senses warned me and I got my assumption confirmed by one of the real girls!When in Thialand it is best to practice "don't ask. Don't tell" with post-ops. It is very easy to pick out the ladyboys from the girl-girls. The ladyboys are better looking (LOL). This is only half a joke. By Western standards they (the ladyboys) are typically hotter because they have that model physique and they dres to the 9's.
Anyne who has been to Thialand can help me out here. I can go to the FKK and there is no chance to run into a ladyboy (wait. I can't say that due to Sucker's comments). There is a extrememly low probability that I will run into a ladyboy at a FKK. In Thailand there is a very high probability that I will approach a ladyboy and not even realize it and may even take one home and not even know it.
Me. "Hey what happened to your tits. What the Fuc...!!!!!"
Her. "Oh come on you knew it all along"
Believe me. I know first hand. The FKKs are much much safer
I posted a report on Yin Yang in the German border thread. I really think that club should listed with other NRW clubs in the German thread.
Mrknowitall
06-12-12, 11:48
- Is it possible to come with a suitcase and leave it in a storage room in these clubs or is it difficult, or would I be better off leaving any luggage in one of the airport lockers?
Thanks for any help!I have not seen any lockers at DUS airport.
From the Dusseldorf flughafen, go downstairs to the S11 train. It will take you to the Dusseldorf Hauptbahnhof after 3 stops. The airport is the end of the line for S11, so there is NO chance of taking this train in the wrong direction. When you get to the Hbf, go downstairs (Main Level) and the lockers are toward the middle of the station.
I would recommend you go to Dolce Vita or LR, fuck your brains out, stay until they close at 5am, head to the HBf, pick up your luggage, and head to the airport. If your flight is at 7am, you might need to leave before 5am, which means a taxi to the Hbf.
I have not seen any lockers at DUS airport.They have a left luggage office.
http://www.dus-int.de/dus_en/service_b/
I have not seen any lockers at DUS airport.
From the Dusseldorf flughafen, go downstairs to the S11 train. It will take you to the Dusseldorf Hauptbahnhof after 3 stops. The airport is the end of the line for S11, so there is NO chance of taking this train in the wrong direction. When you get to the Hbf, go downstairs (Main Level) and the lockers are toward the middle of the station.
I would recommend you go to Dolce Vita or LR, fuck your brains out, stay until they close at 5am, head to the HBf, pick up your luggage, and head to the airport. If your flight is at 7am, you might need to leave before 5am, which means a taxi to the Hbf.Thanks for the reply, I'll probably follow your advice and directions. Very much appreciated! Do you know if the clubs like DV or LR accept to store luggage for guests? I will be travelling light anyway. Thanks again, your handle suits you!
I posted a report on Yin Yang in the German border thread. I really think that club should listed with other NRW clubs in the German thread.Why? The club sucks, why would you want to read the odd post or two about how bad the club sucked? Lets leave it forgotten in that other section.
Mrknowitall
06-12-12, 23:00
Thanks for the reply, I'll probably follow your advice and directions. Very much appreciated! Do you know if the clubs like DV or LR accept to store luggage for guests? I will be travelling light anyway. Thanks again, your handle suits you!If all you have is a backpack it should fit in the lockers at DV. A roller bag would be too wide. I have seen some people haul in big suitcases in DR, but that means you have to lug at all there way there. I'd recommend leaving it at the Hbf. And then you will be much less encumbered.
I see that the airport does indeed have a Left-Luggage service, but it is not even in the terminal. It is in ground floor of car park 3. I would feel safer if no-one was handling my luggage, and only I had the locker key from the Hbf.
Why? The club sucks, why would you want to read the odd post or two about how bad the club sucked? Lets leave it forgotten in that other section.Too funny. May be if we had more posts on the German threads (which are more read and written) , Like Jaymondor's warning about Magnum, I would have skipped Yin-Yang. BTW, I agree that the club sucks. I did post a follow up though. I did something very usual there and had the time of my like and that has nothing to do with the club.
Well, this is the topic that always interesting anytime, anywhere. As I read international or local forum, even in my country there's always debates about this. For example if on going price is US$ 30 / fuck / hour in my country, always there's some men who pay more or give tip, which is good for the girls, but become complaint from other mongers that it will be raised the price or if we don't give tips so the service will go down. Locals / regular customer want to stay on the basic price. Even some foreigner (in Bali) ask other to don't ruin the base price by too much pay / tips. Remember that locals and regulars customer will live day by day here and they pay the service more often.
In China / PRC, a tip is not expected. Do we have to change the girls habit? If they (working girls) work outside their country, maybe it's okay, but why we disturb the system in their own country. One country (Singapore) back then even have a campaign / policy "No tip, please". Some still work in many sector untill now, even in some (not all) restaurants, which is not the case in western countries.
After read report of our friend in FKK Artemis, who pays E 290 for session with a girl, it make me wonder is that better thing to do? Yes, I understand that in your country that is much cheaper price for P4P. Maybe the girls will like you more. But you are not in your country anymore, why not behave like locals. Yes, you paid, then go home. Maybe just come to germany once / twice a year, so that expense is not a big problem. Well, I think for that amount of money, I will choose to call an escort, rather than annoying other mongers. If we can stay low (budget) why should we pay more and ruin the price structure?
Sorry if my English can not explain this clearly, but I hope you understand what I mean.
How much do we have to pay or tip? Regular vs non regularCiao Hbengkok, you "have" to pay only the rate that goes to the girl. Nothing more, nothing less.
Nobody can tell you if you can or cannot leave a tip. Period.
Nobody can tell me for sure.
Personally I leave tips everywhere. Restaurants, bars, taxis, fkk is not different. As long as I'm getting a good service, and I'm not in a bad mood.
That's in my dna. That's how I was grown up, although not specifically trained for fkks.
Trying to trigger a regulars vs. Not regulars game is a stupid thing to do, imo.
I would find it ridiculous for someone getting upset about me giving tips or not, but if that's the case, I couldn't care less.
That's where I stand.
Kimino
Ciao Hbengkok, you "have" to pay only the rate that goes to the girl. Nothing more, nothing less.
Nobody can tell you if you can or cannot leave a tip. Period.
Nobody can tell me for sure.
Personally I leave tips everywhere. Restaurants, bars, taxis, fkk is not different. As long as I'm getting a good service, and I'm not in a bad mood.
That's in my dna. That's how I was grown up, although not specifically trained for fkks.
Trying to trigger a regulars vs. Not regulars game is a stupid thing to do, imo.
I would find it ridiculous for someone getting upset about me giving tips or not, but if that's the case, I couldn't care less.
That's where I stand.
Kimino. But it does not harm to understand the local culture in which you happen to be at a given time. There is a certain degree of arrogance to believe that the way you do things has to be the best everywhere you go, regardless of local customs.
For instance, if you leave a tip in a restaurant in japan, you risk insulting people there. When I forgot some change once, the guy ran after me in the sreet to give it back to me. And as far a Wgs are concerned, the culture in Japan is not to leave them a tip, but offer them gifts, flowers, box of chocolate etc.
To go back to FKK, you are right theat there are no rules, so, sure, tip as much as you wish. I, and I think most punters though would prefer to reward good performance by repeat business, and most girls seem to have understood that.
My 2 cents only.
Too funny. May be if we had more posts on the German threads (which are more read and written) , Like Jaymondor's warning about Magnum, I would have skipped Yin-Yang. BTW, I agree that the club sucks. I did post a follow up though. I did something very usual there and had the time of my like and that has nothing to do with the club.Why didn't you search all of the last dozen posts on Yin Yang then and see my negative review on the club back in September then? Its not like it was hidden amongst all the glowing reviews of the club, it was 9 posts down from the most current comment on the club.
Its just too bad that building wasn't built over the border and had been available to the owners of goldentime 'back when'. I did visit twice several years back when YY had a very good lineup when some girls from phg and gt moved over there for a few weeks.
. But it does not harm to understand the local culture in which you happen to be at a given time. There is a certain degree of arrogance to believe that the way you do things has to be the best everywhere you go, regardless of local customs.Ciao Dreams.
Didn't mean to be arrogant, sorry if it came out that way. I have total respect about local cultures wherever I go. Didn't know about the Japan thing and would have fell in the same trap as you, but once learned the lesson I would have acted in the right way.
But I don't think german culture is against tips, nobody ever gets offended in restaurants, taxis, or such. People appreciate it a lot, like in almost any other place.
Here it's a completely different thing. People don't want that girls get tipped so that prices stay low, it's more like protectionism. If that's the word (I doubt it) in english.
And it's for this reason that I wouldn't accept pressure on this point.
But it's not very important.
I do repeat with the girls I like, although I have less opportunities than a regular and I always treat the girls with total respect, hoping they might get a bit of fun too, or at least have a decent time. When I feel to give a tip I give it. Girls are happy, I am happy.
Someone is not happy about this? Not my problem.
Kimino
I see Hbengkok's point of view but I agree with Kimino. I did not read the Artemis post but E 280 for one session is stupid. I paid E 350 for 8 hours of company and 4 on hour sessions and that is probably borderline stupid. .
This is a service industry and by definition the service provided is variable. As in any service business, additional compensation is not unreasonable for a good level of service that is provided beyond the norm. If we do not tip them, what incentive would they have to have to go beyond the expected mechanical BJ and sex? So, if you get a GFE experience and good company a tip is well deserved and I agree with Kimino that no one other than the person that experiences it can judge what that is worth.
Having said that, my favourite at GT (NRW) said that she has a regular that pays her E 200 for one hour and she said,"He thinks he can buy my affection with money and I don't like that". That says a lot.
Having said that, my favourite at GT (NRW) said that she has a regular that pays her E 200 for one hour and she said,"He thinks he can buy my affection with money and I don't like that". That says a lot.That's really break my heart (LOL).
I see Hbengkok's So, if you get a GFE experience and good company a tip is well deserved and I agree with Kimino that no one other than the person that experiences it can judge what that is worth.Well, my tipping policy is here:
1. Standard FKK session, no DIGITS, no DFK or plain DFK, or attempts to restrict penetration . No tips.
2. Good session, passionate DFK, no attempts to restrict penetration, any positions. 10 EURO tip.
3. Session I will remember. All that included in "3" but DIGITS allowed, good personality. 20 EURO tip.
4. It can be more that 20 EURO if session was one hour or longer.
5. My tip does not depends on any extras. This is different business.
Generally speaking I not tip the girls I will not repeat with. If I think I will repeat or I might repeat I will tip her. Girls remember good customers and the customers who tipping. Usually next session with the same girls is better than first one. Surprisingly but some girls recognized me after one single session more than year ago.
So tipping is not only sign of appreciation for good service. This is a sort of investment into next good session.
I'll be having a layover in Düsseldorf. Will arrive a Friday, last week of September at Düsseldorf airport around 6 PM. I will leave with the next flight Saturday morning at 7:20 AM. I really don't know what to do all the night waiting for my next flight.) LOL.
Of course just kidding, as this will give me a window of opportunity to visit a club in the NRW area. As I am a complete newbie to clubs in the Düsseldorf area, I would ask you guys:
- What club should I visit, given the timetable, preferably close to the airport? Dolce Vita, Blue Note, LR, PHG?
- Is it possible to come with a suitcase and leave it in a storage room in these clubs or is it difficult, or would I be better off leaving any luggage in one of the airport lockers?
Thanks for any help!LR of course, open until late and doable by public transport. Only about half an hour's train ride from Dusseldorf city.
I'm not American so I don't tip, but If It's €75 and I have no change I will give her €80 and not expect change.
Well, my tipping policy is here:
1. Standard FKK session, no DIGITS, no DFK or plain DFK, or attempts to restrict penetration. No tips.
2. Good session, passionate DFK, no attempts to restrict penetration, any positions. 10 EURO tip.
3. Session I will remember. All that included in "3" but DIGITS allowed, good personality. 20 EURO tip.
4. It can be more that 20 EURO if session was one hour or longer.
5. My tip does not depends on any extras. This is different business.
Generally speaking I not tip the girls I will not repeat with. If I think I will repeat or I might repeat I will tip her. Girls remember good customers and the customers who tipping. Usually next session with the same girls is better than first one. Surprisingly but some girls recognized me after one single session more than year ago.
So tipping is not only sign of appreciation for good service. This is a sort of investment into next good session.
Well, my tipping policy is here:
1. Standard FKK session, no DIGITS, no DFK or plain DFK, or attempts to restrict penetration. No tips.
2. Good session, passionate DFK, no attempts to restrict penetration, any positions. 10 EURO tip.
3. Session I will remember. All that included in "3" but DIGITS allowed, good personality. 20 EURO tip.
4. It can be more that 20 EURO if session was one hour or longer.
5. My tip does not depends on any extras. This is different business.
Generally speaking I not tip the girls I will not repeat with. If I think I will repeat or I might repeat I will tip her. Girls remember good customers and the customers who tipping. Usually next session with the same girls is better than first one. Surprisingly but some girls recognized me after one single session more than year ago.
So tipping is not only sign of appreciation for good service. This is a sort of investment into next good session.I tip almost the same way. Max 20 E for one hour session. More often I tend to buy them drinks (depending on the place) , and share my stash which they appreciate.
I'm not American so I don't tip, but If It's €75 and I have no change I will give her €80 and not expect change.Speaking of Nationality, I asked three girls at GT who I have been to the rooms few times with, who is their favourite customers based on Nationality?
One girl said she has no preference. I insisted but she did not pick. She said she does not care where they are from as long as they are clean and don't smell. One girl surprisingly said, Americans because they are not too aggressive and they tip well. The third said Asians because they have small dicks and they come fast. .
Both girls said, they generally do not prefer Turkish men and one of the girl is Turkish.
Just passing on third person comments which I thought were interesting.
Well, I agree with Jymondor typing policy for FKK. More or less what I 've done and I think it's fair tips.
One girl said she has no preference. I insisted but she did not pick. She said she does not care where they are from as long as they are clean and don't smell. One girl surprisingly said, Americans because they are not too aggressive and they tip well. The third said Asians because they have small dicks and they come fast. .
Just passing on third person comments which I thought were interesting.What about small dick, come fast and tip well. That's every girls favourite, ha ha.
What about small dick, come fast and tip well. That's every girls favourite, ha ha.To be exact this is every WORKING girl favourite. Not girlfriends I assume)
What about small dick, come fast and tip well. That's every girls favourite, ha ha.Now you know why they love me! :-)
What about small dick, come fast and tip well. That's every girls favourite, ha ha.That's why Thai bargirls love Japanese customers LOL,
LR of course, open until late and doable by public transport. Only about half an hour's train ride from Dusseldorf city.Thanks for the advice. I was thinking about DV, but I think LR is closer to the DUS airport and hence I would not have to travel too much. It's open until 4 AM on a Saturday morning, which gives me enough time to enjoy the company of nice girls before getting back to the airport. I should of course RTFF, but is the price structure in LR like other NRW clubs, meaning 30 min=50 euros. 1 hour=75 euros or is it like DV prices? Do anyone know how much a taxi would cost to LR from airport? I could take public transport, but I hate wasting my time.
Thanks for the advice. I was thinking about DV, but I think LR is closer to the DUS airport and hence I would not have to travel too much. It's open until 4 AM on a Saturday morning, which gives me enough time to enjoy the company of nice girls before getting back to the airport. I should of course RTFF, but is the price structure in LR like other NRW clubs, meaning 30 min=50 euros. 1 hour=75 euros or is it like DV prices? Do anyone know how much a taxi would cost to LR from airport? I could take public transport, but I hate wasting my time.There's not much between the two clubs in terms of distance from the airport, I believe DV is slightly closer, but the route to LR is mostly on the autobahn so is probably quicker.
Yes normal NRW price structure at Living Room. Slightly more expensive second half hour at DV.
Now which club?
A few weeks ago I went to Living Room on a Saturday evening (Entry 60 Euro) , and apart from one girl (Alicia / Alexia? Blonde Romanian) I was pretty disappointed both with the line up and the attitude of most of the girls. To me it just didn't seem as busy as I remember for a Saturday night and when I was sitting in the Kino around 23:30, it was full of Romanian girls sitting around chatting amongst themselves. It was at this point I decided to leave earlier than planned and catch the 00:10 train back to Dusseldorf.
The next day I went to DV, it was a bit of a nightmare to get there as they were doing some construction work on the railway and consequently had a replacement bus service which ended up in me getting off at the wrong stop since there were no onboard announcements (the trains should now be running again).
Eventually I had a much better time at DV (Entry 35 Euro) as the girls there appeared to have a much better attitude and were happy to sit and chat for some time before going to the room. I ended up having three nice sessions there compared to my one good session at LR the day before.
I'm also heading back to Dusseldorf shortly and I still have no idea which of the two clubs to visit. Was it just a bad day at LR and it has since improved? Or should I go to DV?
In the end I'll probably hedge my bets and go to DV since it's entry is lower.
I'm also heading back to Dusseldorf shortly and I still have no idea which of the two clubs to visit. Was it just a bad day at LR and it has since improved? Or should I go to DV?
In the end I'll probably hedge my bets and go to DV since it's entry is lower.Thanks for the input! In fact I really have no idea what club to choose, since they do have their followers. For me the lineup is not that important. I mean I don't really care if there are 80 or 30 girls in the club, as long as the ones present looks nice! Then again I was thinking about Magnum as well, but I haven't heard so many reviews of that one recently. I do prefer young girls, but not so much the porn look of certain girls I saw in Artemis. I fancy more the girl next door look that I sometimes see dominates the lineup in Oase. So the question remains: to living room or not to living room?
Hot days coming. What clubs have climate control in common areas and rooms?
Amriptna111
06-24-12, 16:50
Hi guys,
From your experience is oase a good place to visit during the summer? Would the room be hot and smelly or anything like that?
Regards,
Hi guys,
From your experience is oase a good place to visit during the summer? Would the room be hot and smelly or anything like that?
Regards, Oh yes indeed, hot and smelly! Just the way we like it, yes? And don't forget the flies. They will be present in the summer to be sure. Also flies galour in the outside area. Don't you just love fkking in the summer? Give me the cool winds of October any day.
O
And don't forget the flies. They will be present in the summer to be sure. Also flies galour in the outside area. Don't you just love fkking in the summer? Give me the cool winds of October any day.
OGrab an extra flip flop when your selecting a pair downstairs, use that as a flyswatter. Also great for keeping overly aggressive girls at bay.
Member #4285
06-24-12, 21:50
Clubs that would otherwise not have free beer, have you noticed any difference in the mood now with them? Golden Time that I visited had free beer (every day) , but the guests were not noticeably affected. I liked the free beer. Pity that GT is so far away. Loves to fuck in the open air or in a beach chair.
Travelforfun
06-25-12, 16:54
I tip almost the same way. Max 20 E for one hour session. More often I tend to buy them drinks (depending on the place) , and share my stash which they appreciate.Usually I would tip almost the same way too. However sometimes I tend to tip when not required and go overboard with things.
Like the dancers at Samya, somehow I always end up paying them. 1 reason is that I love dance shows and 2nd I kinda feel for the girls putting in so much effort for our entertainment that I tend to tip them 5-10E during their act. I usually budget 50 E for tips going into the club, for me having one less session is no big deal than enjoying with lets say 5-6 different girls during my stay. The nice one's usually come and say thanks personally when the finish the dance and even the worst snobs will atleast smile back at you.
Funny is when some girls will just grind at you sitting at the bar and hope for a tip, the nice one's I do tip sometimes but not always. But its fun none the less for 50-60 Euro I have a party time there and get to know a lot more girls which sometimes comes handy in picking the right ones.
For me tipping is just an upfront investment for maybe better service if I choose the same girl to the room, they probably don't watch the clock so much after that and service, communication is that much better. Even if I don't go to the room with her it gives me a enough satisfaction to just have a good time with them and interact. Would'nt we all spend 10E outside the club to impress a girl if we met one, I just treat it at the same level. And not to forget the Ego boost and happiness the girls get which inturn surely gets me some brownie points for my KARMA.
The worst is when I buy the drinks there, the Vodka-Redbull is 5E but they always come back with coins as change and I hate walking around with my pockets jingling so I let the bartender have the change, sometimes when I've tipped 1-2 times I make sure I give her the correct change or order 2 drinks.
However the bright side is that after the first Tip the drinks that follow are always stronger and better.
I also always try to tip the girl cleaning the tables and ashtray's. They are the worst paid girls in the club and running around cleaning up all the mess. Its a joy to see their smile when I hand them over 10E's. I used to do that right before leaving earlier but now I just tip them whenever I get a chance sitting alone and she comes along to clean the table so alteast she smiles at me every time we lock eyes for the rest of the stay. And its nice to get some napkins and table service when you sit down to eat hehe
Angus Magee
06-25-12, 17:36
I also always try to tip the girl cleaning the tables and ashtray's. They are the worst paid girls in the club and running around cleaning up all the mess. Its a joy to see their smile when I hand them over 10E's. I used to do that right before leaving earlier but now I just tip them whenever I get a chance sitting alone and she comes along to clean the table so alteast she smiles at me every time we lock eyes for the rest of the stay. And its nice to get some napkins and table service when you sit down to eat heheDon't know about tipping in general but the fact that you remember to tip the cleaners is really nice. They do work hard and for not much money I imagine.
AM
Don't know about tipping in general but the fact that you remember to tip the cleaners is really nice. They do work hard and for not much money I imagine.
AMA bit of a sidenote, I remember my first FKK visit ever. I took a shower in Artemis and was literally a bit shocked by the cleaning ladies that went inside the mens locker room. But they had this "stone" face on them, ignoring completely that I was stark naked in front of them. I just imagined that they have become so jaded by seeing so much dicks going around! I have never thought of tipping them, but they sure do a great job, especially in Artemis. The only ones I am not impressed by are the barladies in A. They surely have something to learn from the great service in the FKK Palace bar. That's about all there is to learn from Palace.
Member #4285
06-26-12, 01:34
A bit of a sidenote, I remember my first FKK visit ever. I took a shower in Artemis and was literally a bit shocked by the cleaning ladies that went inside the mens locker room. But they had this "stone" face on them, ignoring completely that I was stark naked in front of them. I just imagined that they have become so jaded by seeing so much dicks going around! I have never thought of tipping them, but they sure do a great job, especially in Artemis. The only ones I am not impressed by are the barladies in A. They surely have something to learn from the great service in the FKK Palace bar. That's about all there is to learn from Palace.One time I asked the cleaning lady in Artemis "is this the right place to put my used towel". She gave me an answer that felt that she wanted to kill me. Actually, almost all the staff at Artemis is very unpleasant. Best service I usually get at the lower bar by the pool and in the dining room (and if I take a massage). The Palace bar actuallt WANT to sell drinks in contrast to Artemis who do not seem to want to sell a shit. Best service is at Golden Time. Free and with a smile =)
I haven't been to a FKK but would like to go to the ones around Frankfurt before the end of this year. My question is: If you to a room with a woman and she starts to upsell you and you start to get bad vibes about her attitude, can you leave the room without obligation (paying anything)? Thanks.
I haven't been to a FKK but would like to go to the ones around Frankfurt before the end of this year. My question is: If you to a room with a woman and she starts to upsell you and you start to get bad vibes about her attitude, can you leave the room without obligation (paying anything)? Thanks.As long as you didn't start having sex (any kind of sex) with the girl, you could probably do that, but it's a very strange situation.
When girls upsell they usually do that after you started doing stuff. At that point the minimum rate has to be paid.
Some real world examples:
1) You get in the room and the girl (before doing anythin) pulls something like: "Do you want a normal suck and fuck standard service or you wish to have a more relaxed, one hr, beautiful session?" I find this, sneaky but honest. Happended often at Palace, sometimes at Artemis with new girls. You decide what to do.
2) You get in the room, start doing stuff then maybe try to kiss the girl and she goes: "no that's 50 extra". Touch her pussy, same stuff. This I really hate, I can take it if it's not extreme but it does spoil it. If it's bad, more than once I quitted the session, paid the girl the minimum and saved a pop.
3) A combination of the above. This really makes me angry. In that case, even if I booked an hour I pay the minimum (if I didn't use up the time) and leave, usually.
But don't bang your head on this, this is very rare, in my experience. Reading some threads, Palace for example, it sounds like things like this happens all the time, but my experience is different. So it's either I'm going to a different club, or I'm very lucky.
If you are concered about this, simply ask everything before, in the details. Something like:
- You do BBBJ?
- You Kiss?
- Can I lick you?
- etc.
I don't like this too much because It makes me feel like I'm buying a car and although I know I'm doing business with a girl that is doing this all day long, I still feel it's a lack of savoir faire to talk like this to a girl. Call me stupid.
What I normaly do, If I don't know the girl and have a gut feeling of some kind is I say smiling something like: "Hey babe, no upselling or bs right? I'd love to lick you, is that ok?" Or something along the line.
To the extreme, at Artemis once I was took to a room by 2 Polish girls. They really tryed to BS me. Said they wanted to use the condom because I was not clean (absolutely not true) , went off and took a shower again, came back and they were chatting together. Started blowing again and out came the condom again. At that point I told them to fuck off and that I would quit. They started saying I had to pay anyways. We argued a bit around that, and finally made a deal wher I gave 30euro each and we closed it there.
This was probably my worst experience of that kind, never happened something similar.
My2cents.
Kimino
Angus Magee
06-26-12, 10:43
I haven't been to a FKK but would like to go to the ones around Frankfurt before the end of this year. My question is: If you to a room with a woman and she starts to upsell you and you start to get bad vibes about her attitude, can you leave the room without obligation (paying anything)? Thanks.Well I don't like your chances here. Of course you can try, but once you have arrived at the room chances are that you have at the very minimum kissed a bit, perhaps even had your dick in her mouth. Getting away from that scot free will involve some argument and probably management intervention. With the contact I mention, management will probably side with the girl and ask you to pay something.
And if I might be allowed a mild rant here-locals and guys who make German FKK their destination year after year, experienced club goers, have put in some time, spent the money and have the experience to generally manage these situations with a minimum of fuss and grief. In such a situation, if the girl really starts to grind you, pay the girl the minimum, have your way (or not) and get out of there. Chalk it up to experience and move on. FKK clubs are just that, clubs. The sex can be great but there are pit falls from time to time. One of the reasons that the FKK is such fun is that it can, in a good club, mimic the environment of a civilian disco with the advantage of being able to bang the girls instead of having to dance with them and buy them drinks. Guys who come here treating the girls like 'hos and not doing due diligence before heading to the room just sour the atmosphere.
As Kimino notes, this sort of situation you describe is not that common. But it becomes more and more common the more guys just drag a girl off to the room without properly vetting them. Of course the girls say they want you to just head off to the room, they want the cash. It is up to you though to hold steady and make reasonably sure that the girl and you are a fit. Make good choices in other words and suck it up if you make a mistake.
My 2 cents and mildly rant-ish opinion.
AM
This discussion makes me think back at a situation I had as a newbie in FKK World. I just arrived with my wingman and sat down next to a Romanian (shocker!) girl. She was obviously very keen on showing the premises and she started kissing me while I was trying to eat something. I was a bit intrigued by that, because I was not iniating anything, but then again I'm not playing hard to get either! So I let her show me the rest of the World (!) and I felt a bit obliged to have at least a 50 E session with her. But in retrospect I've wondered if I could have pulled out of the deal?
WorkTravel80
06-26-12, 16:16
You know what sucker17? I actually think that you could. In the Palace I have had various girls kissing me (no DFK though). And I think they did because they wanted to. Some of them like to cuddle a little even thoug they won't get a session from you. But to newbies: as soon as the girl gets her lips around your dick the deal is done. Is like, you cannot start to eat on a cookie in Starbucks and leave the half of it and say I don't want to pay. For me personally I don't touch girls asses / pussies / boobs without sessioning with them. I find that a little bit disrespectual But of course I can cuddle a little and if they start / show initiative of kissing me of course I don't mind. But thats just my point of view, I don't say it is impossible to touch a girls breast for free in a Fkk, hehe.
Visited the Palace some days ago, acutally three times. One Monday. 2 hours the Tuesday an all the day last Friday. The place was really packed last Friday. Had to wait for the room, but I liked it as I got more cuddling time with my favorite Romanian. I almos fell in love with a girl called Inna or Ila from Romania. Dark hair, rather skinny, navel piercing, nice ass. Small boobs. But very well shaped. She seemed like a shark when she spoke to me inthe club. Asking for a session. And I started to talk with her. And thougt "what tha hell". So we went to the room, decided for 30 minutes. But after some minutes I changed my mind. I really liked this girl. So decided for a 100euro session. And also had to run to my hotel later the same night, to get another 100 euros for a repeat session. The lineup was really good that Friday night. Ill write a detailet report later. Personally I really like the lingerie days, Wednesday. So sucker17 when are you visiting the Palace again, would have been great with a wingman.
Personally I really like the lingerie days, Wednesday. So sucker17 when are you visiting the Palace again, would have been great with a wingman.I "had" my first debut at dessous tag in Artemis during my stay in May (nice rhyme to it) and I really liked it. I can't understand why so many are against the lingerie day, as I just think it adds more spice and fun to it. My next trip, hmmm I just invested in a 55" Sony flatscreen that ate a lot of my budget, nice to watch the Euro final LOL! I was planning on a Frankfurt trip mid-August if the finances will allow it. I will for sure be in Frankfurt for work in September during the Automechanika-messe, but I fear the clubs will be a circus!
WorkTravel80
06-26-12, 17:31
I have spent all my Fkk money this year. So I will probably visit Frankfurt again March 2013. And the next summer. I totally agree with you when it comes to the lingerie days. I love to undress women. So ca you recommend Artemis? Do you like that club better than Fkk Oase. I haveunderstood that you're not a fan of the Palace, hehe.
I have spent all my Fkk money this year. So I will probably visit Frankfurt again March 2013. And the next summer. I totally agree with you when it comes to the lingerie days. I love to undress women. So ca you recommend Artemis? Do you like that club better than Fkk Oase. I haveunderstood that you're not a fan of the Palace, hehe.How cum you manage to hold your horses for such a long time? March 2013. That's a hell of a long time to wait to get back to paradise! Well Palace is not that bad, I am not a big fan of the club, but I've had lots of fun there earlier, especially on calmer nights. The ideal FKK does not exist because there are negative points to find everywhere. What I really love at Palace is the bar staff, really friendly and serviceminded. I would dare to say the best bar / staff among the FKK? The whole cleanliness of the place is of course a very positive point. Then as a non-smoker, I appreciate that they have a separate smokerlounge, it helps a lot. But Palace fails at the most important point IMO: girls service. I would not be fair to say that all girls upsell, but a large proportion of the girls at Palace nags about upselling, the way Kimino described very well.
But what I didn't write in my last report from Artemis is that I feel the upsell strategy has started there as well, it's like a damn virus! My favourite FKK (from what I've visited) is definitely Oase. Artemis comes very close, and is sometimes even on par when it comes to girls service, but what I don't like so much in A is the fact that many more girls now are siliconized. If you're into silicon bimbos, Artemis is definitely the place to be! But personally I prefer next-door-babe-looks instead, and Oase and World have lots on offer here! Another good point is the ambiance, which I feel is so much better at Oase. I can't wait to get back when the renovation is finished!
I've done it several times, you never know just how determined the girl is with getting that 50 euro's. One time I had the girl sitting on my lap at Oase on one of those couch's by the rooms, waiting for one to open. It took 15 minutes for one to free up, massaging her back (not groping). Things looked good until we get in the room and the first thing out of her mouth is 'I can only do BJ, your too big for me'. At which point I said "ok, forget about it then". She then demanded 50 euro's for having to wait for the room. Told her that wasn't going to happen and kept on walking. You don't know if she's going to follow you and make a scene, just start walking.
Another trick is the girl starts with 69 so she can slip a condom on for the BJ. She knows guys are apt to quit the session if she insists on a CBJ. Had this happen on my last trip, she's already sucking away so its too late to duck out of the room. So did the only other thing possible, fucked her hard for the rest of the session. She kept on saying 'you cum yet? ' which I'd reply "I always cum fast with a BBBJ but since you don't do that, we'll have to finish this way' and I'd keep on pounding away. After a weeks worth of BBBJ's, you don't feel shit with a CBJ.
And don't forget the end of the hour trick of trying to trick you into staying past the half hour. This is where the girl will ask if its ok to smoke afterwards, lights up and tries to start a conversation. The conversation is usually forced, you can tell the questions she's asking are a delay tactic to get you to forget about the time. She wants to show up to the money lockers at the 40 minute mark and tell you its 100 euro's, not 50. Yeah, you have to wait for the girl to get dressed, clean up the mess and all. Anything longer than 3 minutes and you have to wonder if she's trying for the extra 50. Only once did I actually leave the room and head back to the lockers, I wanted to be at the bar waiting so she couldn't say I overstayed in the room. Amazing how fast she got dressed after I said I'll meet you at the bar.
WorkTravel80
06-26-12, 20:42
I have visited the Palace 5-6 (Idont remember) times this year, so I've had my share of paradise this year. I cannot afford to visit the club again, as I am travelling to the U. S very soon. So I HAVE to wait, but I have to live with that. I can jerk of to my best moments in the Palace. I still would consider myself as a newbie. Haven't visited other Fkks, but have bee to the Palace 7-8 times. And by reading this forum, I didn't get "sharked", not even on my virgin trip. I have always enjoyed my time. And I really think the service in the bar / restaurant / reception is exepctional. And I always find nice GFE providers. That will provide DFK and some really good sex. Actually better sex that I have had in my real life.
Yeah they are working girls, but still just human beiings. If you show them respect and that you really like spending time with them, not just pound them, you may get lucky. For some visitors thats not important. Some of us like PSE, and I respect that. Sometimes I also look for optifucks. But for ME, usually its very important to find a girl that I really like and hopefully she likes me a little too. And I have been lucky several times. And I still think some of them can enjoy their time with customers. Not that I stand a chance outside the club or something like that. But you can find girls that will give you a real GFE with cuddling DFK and all that you desire, for no extras. I have had 50 euros session, with lots of kissing etc. You can also find girls like mentioned above that try to charge extra for everything. Kissing GFE" etc. I usually never go with such girls. I always clear things up BEFORE entering or touching the girls. So I have never had any problems with paying. My last time in the Palace I actually did something unusual" for me, I went with a girl I thought may be a little sharky and cold in the room. But she turned out to be a very good choice. She was cold in the start, (in the start, outside the club). But we chatted awhile and she loosend up and became "another" girl. She said that she got sad because the time was up, because I was so nice to her. I know that many girls can say that, that they love you etc. I can admit that I actually beleived her. I licked her pussy and she told me how fast / slow she liked it. And she took control of my hand showed me what kind of movements she liked. Could not finger her, but seemed like she got a clitoris orgasm. She got wet and moved her lower parts up and down, and kissed my neck like crazy. No kissing with tongue, I repected that. But she was so sweet in the room, I could have her in my arms. Just like a real girlfriend. I felt that the session was "real". Of course you can find some intense and maybe sharky girls. But I just avoid them. In a nice way of course. The first 90 minutes of my stay I usually get approached by many girls, some more intense than the others. But I cannot say that bothers me. I love to arrive early 13. 00 ish and stay until midnight. The place is really clean and the food is really good. I eat like crazy when I'm there. So, so far I haven't had any needs to try out other Fkk clubs. I am so satisfied with the Palace, but my last trip I considered a trip to Oase. But ended up with my beloved Palace. Maybe Ill go to Oase next year. Who knows.
Another trick is the girl starts with 69 so she can slip a condom on for the BJ. She knows guys are apt to quit the session if she insists on a CBJ. Had this happen on my last trip, she's already sucking away so its too late to duck out of the room. So did the only other thing possible, fucked her hard for the rest of the session. She kept on saying 'you cum yet? ' which I'd reply "I always cum fast with a BBBJ but since you don't do that, we'll have to finish this way' and I'd keep on pounding away. After a weeks worth of BBBJ's, you don't feel shit with a CBJ.Wonderful reply! It has never happened to me, but I had to laugh while trying to imagine the scene. I've only had two girls asking me upfront if I wanted CBJ or uncovered BJ. That's ok I guess, but I thought that the girls are obliged to perform a BBBJ if you want them to?
Norwegian90: You have a point. The way we interact with the girls is much more important than just reviews from other guys. You tell the story of the cold girl that unleashes her true self in the room. It can just as well be the opposite story. I once went with a nice looking girl to the room (not in a FKK) , and we really clicked IMO, but the session was nothing but terrible. I mean I can't blame the girl, she just didn't like to have sex the same way as I did. She hold a grip on my back that was very uncomfortable during certain positions and it actually prevented me from cumming. Initally I wanted to complain to the front desk, but restrained myself. After all, she was probably someone elses favorite, but not at all compatible with me. Then I went with Blair, german girl in Artemis that don't kiss, pure optifick! I didn't expect anything from her, except for a massive upsell session, but she turned out to be great. She only suggested I took her for a repeat,"vielleicht eine Stunde beim nächsten Mal schatz?" The way it should be!
Hot days coming. What clubs have climate control in common areas and rooms?You could try FKK Artemis I know they have special rooms that can suite you.
Here's their Ad from www.adultsearch.com
http://germany.adultsearch.com/berlin/fkk-club/fkk-artemis/83
Amriptna111
06-27-12, 01:02
Hi,
As for me expereince in palace simple the more money I spend the better the service. So if she agress to go with me prepared for her body to get bend in half due to the pounding she is going to get in her pussy. In oase I am usually nice to the girls as ther are not sharky to me (but some do get the heavy treament). Basically if you are a b1tch you get treated like a b1tch and most palace girls are like this. Upselling none stop (for the young and hot providers the old hands are pretty consistent).
I am going to palace in 2 weeks time. Any girls anyone here want to recommend me to pound Isabela, from Alicante and janita is definetly on the list as I saw her in my last visit but ran out of euros but she has been mentioned a lot lately. Hope these lovely do anal. Does anyone have ant palace chicks to recommend. By the way another hot girl I would recommend from oase is marie. This girl is cold but once you take control of her she is very much submissive.
Anyone going to palace on 13 July pm me as I shall be there.
I`m looking to return to Frankfurt in Sept. Oct time frame. Thinking of renting acar to visit some of the outlying I. E. World & Sharks as well as maybe a further region I. E. France to see the Lourve bonus visit. Anyone interested in teaming up for part of the trip?
Brazil Specialist
06-29-12, 12:55
was in munich for a few days for business and visits. did not even dare to try the scene there. was contacted by a friend from isg who had a rental car. so we went to colosseum in augsburg. german autobahn is amazing. less then an hourat180 km / h restrained speed door to door from a munich downtown hotel to colosseum.
naked girls dressed only in high heels. exactly what i needed. i am a tit man and i can not decide on a girl if i can not see if her tits are nice, hard, smooth and rosy, or if they are droopy due to having kids. finally truth in advertising.
i was positively surprised. i am picky to choose, like them young and tight. certainly there was enough choice even for my selective taste.
this one has the absolutely perfect boobs i crave, too bad the photos are too small.
http://www.fkk-colosseum.de/index.php?m=0101&mid=349&imgid=2347
knowing german certainly is helpful, but a bunch of girls greatly preferred english. romanian, polish of course would be ideal, but the odd spaniard, italian can be found.
it is good to come to colosseum first. after seeing oase, there is no coming back to colosseum. you go do colosseum if you are in munich, you would not colosseum is amazingly good for being located in the bavarian bible belt. it has pretty girls, good pricing. food was decent and sufficient in spite of some bad reports on some boards.
the girls were quite pretty, but very shy and behaved. girls never approached any man. no groping. just very well behaved talk. groping could only happen in sessions in the whirlpool, for euro 50 for half an hour. typically as a warm-up for a session in the room for another 50 euro, totaling 100 e.
girls were a bit complex. some would only do covered bj, refuse to use any condom other then their own plain vanilla condom. there was a definite tendency of women leaving after 20 minutes and not fulfilling the full half hour. oh and be aware there are 50 euro surcharges for each of the following: groping pussy, groping asshole, coming in mouth, coming on body. this is cumulative, so be careful not to come in the mouth (+50) and dribble a bit on the belly (+50) for a total surcharge or 100.
summary: if you are in the area, go for it. worth a visit if you are careful and know what you are doing.
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frankfurt: the best city overall, by far.
first visit to oase. plugged the address into my trusted deutsche bank navigator app. got a blow by blow description how to get there. metro s bahn and then a bus. at the final bus stop, i had to spend an hour typing away some emails. started raining in the mean time and there was a 20 minute walk. had the glorious idea to call oase and ask for a taxi. 5 euro. would have been 10 euro from the metro station.
65 to get in. 50 per girl. i thought i had died and woke up in heaven. free drinks (at least the non-alcoholic stuff) , pretty good food heaped on plates by the bar man. and massive numbers of girls, sauna, swimming pool. simply amazing. almost no dogs. lots in the 8+ range. plenty with the hard tits and perfect body that i crave. and many of those with pretty faces to boot. thank god for romania being in the european union. greece may go, spain and italy may go. but romania has to stay. poland, hungary, czech republic are a plus, but legal prostitutes from romania with work permits are germany's salvation.
http://www.fkk-oase.de/
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frankfurt again. 2 days later.
walked out of main station, ran into the red tourist bus. 12 euro for a 50 minute city tour. well, one has to occasionally do other things then fkk running. frankfurt is so full of brothels and fkk, you stumble upon them. i took mental notes of sudfass fkk with amore, but we inadvertently we passed a few more eros centers during the frankfurt city tour.
left my large pack in a locker at the station. 3 euro for 24 hours (pay again if you have to open it). with my small pack i rented a callabike. de (?). very nice but not sure if you can sign up without a european billing address.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/call_a_bike
http://www.callabike-interaktiv.de/
frankfurt is amazing. you stumble over working girl houses, fkk, brothels even if you don't search for them. after a stop over at sudfass and amore, i continued bicycling and accidentally ran across fkk beach and fkk palace. did not stay, had the right to return to sudfass.
http://eroscenter-amor.com/
amore is the most amazing laufhaus i have seen. all girls were 8 and over on my scale. asked 30 to 50 euro. the supermodel right out of met-art asked for 50 and seemed nice. a big titted friendly colombian who liked my portunhol (spanish mixed with portuguese). i skipped because at sudfass i could see them naked and grope them for free. well, after 20 to 25 admission plus 5 minimum consumption. some real dogs. a chubby big titted italian accosted me constantly till i relented and got a blow job. told her clearly i wanted no extras, only half hour, no cim, . great bj and hj, did not feel like fucking the cute whale. gave her 50 and got the surprise: 50 more because we did 50 minutes. i complained i had told her half hour, to no avail. always use your own watch, or be even more clear then i was.
http://www.dassudfass.de/
the second girl ripped me off in a more classy way. told me about the s / m room, said she was not going to charge extra, let me tie her up, slap her around, was totally submissive and hot. after that she asked if it were not worth 100 euro, and i could not say no. when she asked for another 20 tip i told her she already had 50 tip, but ended up adding 10. a beauty with stellar performance.
correction: other laufhauses seem to have good quality too. the inclusion of romania into the european union opened the flood gates for model type beauties at german brothels. thank god for romania's membership in the eu. the old fat hags i saw 10 years ago are pretty much a thing of the past. unlike brazil, where quality goes downhill (still not bad) , germany's quality is clearly going uphill.
did another hour of bicycling and, randomly, passed 2 fkk's. beach and palace. returned to sudfass (free entry for returners)
now sudfass had 2 great girls, pretty skinny and young. one stunner, from eastern europe. slim, great tits, good face. could not resist. so sudfass is interesting to see, they say it was the very first fkk. it really looks antique, with wall and ceiling paintings like a chapel (except it is all sexual paintings). if you are downtown, give it a try. but if you have little time, it is not comparable to oase.
oase again, second visit.
went again to frankfurt. decided to forego experimentation and go for what i know is excellent. oase again. still afternoon. did not see any girls nor food. asked when the food was going to come. they told me food was in the garden. so were the girls. unfortunately, they tend to wrap in towels when in the garden, so less of eye candy and instant boob inspection. still, plenty were topless.
some people complained about the food. i like it. also check the free drink menu. i discovered hot chocolate and apfel schorle, apple juice with sparkling water.
bad homburg is another s-bahn stop, about 12 euro taxi ride away from oase. the advantage is that bad homburg is full of hotels. paid 49 euro special at hotel "haus daheim" at elisabethenstr. 42, bad homburg. 06172 20098-90 their more normal price is 79, up to 200 during messe see m.
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artemis sucks, too many aging hard core siliconized pros.
after visiting colosseum augsburg (ok) oase (wonderful) and sudfass (decent) in frankfurt, i checked artemis.
maybe it was a bad day, maybe because it was saturday, and afternoon. i talked to another visitor and he said he has seen better girls. or maybe it is my taste. i like fresh, young, natural girls with perfect bodies.
artemis personified everything i don't like about girls.
career prostitutes, a bit past their prime, behaving a bit aggressively, plastic tits. even a few brazilians, but not the youngest.
after hours of searching i found 1-2 that i might be interested, but was too shy to ask if the tits were excellent silicone or amazingly natural. the sauna is good, the food also was edible but did not excite me. the fact that the food was in a separate room where the girls were obliged to cover up with towels also did not help the atmosphere.
it looks like an amazingly big place, that screams "commercial sex". i fell in love with oase. so many good girls i had a hard time to decide.
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hamburg.
first the good news. looked for a cheap hotel. asked at the bahn counter at hauptbahnhof. they recommended a&o hotel at reeperbahn, the red light district.
http://www.aohostels.com/de/
49 euro with breakfast, if you buy there directly at the hotel, you get it for 39 euro. it is also a&o hostel, so lots of gorgeous jailbait or barely legal chicks strutting at reception or during breakfast. no, they don't look available and i did not commit any crimes. but it is amazing how in europe school classes on excursions can be housed in the middle of a hard core red light district.
planned to check out atmos sauna club. after reading some reports on german whoring boards, i decided to skip. seems not too many girls, older then i prefer, and bbbj only for 10 or 20 euro extra. there is general consensus that frankfurt and artemis in berlin are better. considering that i considered artemis crap, i figured i would rather do bicycling or tourism, or take care of my computer obligations. i was tempted to go to fkk babylon but also called it off.
instead checked out reeperbahn, knowing that they are known for "nepp" (rip-off). in spite of all my saviness i got ripped off, too. in a laufhaus, an eros center, i accepted an offer of 2 girls for only 60 euro. should never have taken a dutch and a german. i had heard all the romanians and eastern europeans in the other houses making great offers, fucking, sucking, changing positions, touching, taking off clothes for 50 or less. so i had not paid attention that these bitches had not clearly offered all these services. so the max they had to offer was a hand job with a condom (i kid you not) and the girls remaining fully dressed! for only 250 euro per girl i could get great service. i ended up paying 40 euro more, in the hope that would help. that was enough for one of the two to take off the top and give a covered bj. the other one gave a covered hj and allowed me the privilege to touch her big boobs over her dress top. avoid hamburg's reeperbahn like the plague!
as usual, there is a city tour bus at the main railroad station. harbor tours by boat also available, very impressive. also callabike. de bikes.
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zürich: swiss perfection. the best working girl house in the world.
i was told by various people, that club globe in z&65533; rich was the best fkk club in the world, probably the very best brothel in the world.
http://www.club-globe.ch/
http://www.*************.com/forum/showthread.php?38725-club-globe-z
%fcrich-the-biggest-one.
http://forum.6profi.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=65
so, i had to check it out.
prices, in highly valued swiss franks, are double what the frankfurt fkk charge. about 75 euro to get in, about 110 euro per half hour (prices already converted from chf swiss franks at 1. 20 swiss francs to the euro). so they'd better be good.
i came on a saturday early afternoon. lots more girls then guys. first disappointment: a lot of girls in swimsuits. where were the naked girls? club globe does have naked fkk, but only on mondays and thursdays. but there were good news: lots of girls with the best tits went topless. nudity is optional. a few were naked. others showed off their wares upon request. the other good news: it could have been worse: wednesday is corset day, girls are prohibited to go naked or topless and have to wear, well, a corset that hides tits and bellies. on a wednesday, i would have turned around and left, this is not why i come to fkk.
really, the swiss do everything well, be it pocket knives, watches, or fkk. and the swiss do finances well, so the swiss franc is highly valued which drives prices up. and attracts pretty romanians who sleep there overnight and save all the cash to spend in romania where it is worth a fortune.
all girls are slim, but the flabby flat ass model types are absent. all have pretty decent behinds. plenty of girls walked topless allowing tit inspections others would show tits upon request. groping was allowed, within limits. result: lots of very pretty small to medium size excellent tits. i did not see too much because i picked the wrong day, but i saw enough. i could have easily spent over 1000 dollars if i did every interesting girl. i inspected one set of silicone tits that was absolutely amazing and indiscernible from the real stuff, even when squeezing. the girl said she got it done in thailand.
the girls carefully approach you without undue pressure. if you are interested, you can sit a little and get cozy. careful, if you allow kissing (guess of the dfk kind) or blow job, you are expected to buy a session. the good thing is that the bj time seems not to be deducted from your room time. in the room i was always firm: i wanted a basic half hour session and absolutely no extra charges (100 francs additional would be for cim) for example. here there was no tradeoff between the nice friendly good f. ck or the premium looks not so good performance. you can pick premium looks with good friendly attitude, talented bbbj, they know how to fuck. one of the two i did seem to actually enjoy the fuck and have orgasms. she was the one who suggested i should go down on her to make her come. i did not take her up on the offer, but it seems daty would have been rewarded with real orgasms. the other girl was cooler, but did all her duties and all the right moves.
all girls seem to be concerned with customer's wishes. i failed to try hair pulling and ass slapping, i was too much in awe with the girls.
management is very concerned, shows the place, asks if everything is ok. judging from the girl's behavior i suppose management teaches them how be friendly and pleasant to customers.
good sauna area, but i did not see many people using it. actually, there were not many men. a girl told me that at peak times, there are so many men that you hardly find the girls. good thing, i came on an early saturday afternoon.
unlike oase, no nice outside area, a restaurant but no free food. there is a sunbathing area on the roof, not too impressive and reachable through some scary industrial cargo elevator and outside stairs.
easy to get there:
from z&65533; rich hauptbahnhof take s9 (there might be others) direction usten on rails. and go to stop schwertenbach. you can not miss the stop, the screen inside the metro train always shows the next 4 stops.
club globe is 200 meters past the station, on the left side of the rails, one block from the rails.
use the pedestrian underpass to walk out to the left side of the tracks (left looking from where you came from, downtown zurich). walk next (really close, like 3 meters away) to the rails for about 150 meters, over a small bridge that crosses a street underpass of the metro. next little street left, walk around the building.
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summary:
the best wh. ore house in the world, in my opinion is in zurich. twice the cost you would pay in frankfurt. the best deal is frankfurt. oase is wonderful, did not have time to check the others. i hated artemis in berlin, but maybe i picked the wrong day. if you can choose your place, pick frankfurt and / or z&65533; rich.
i love girls' bodies and tits. it is almost impossible for me to pick girls without a tit inspection. a angel faced girl that turns out to have droopy tits is a waste of money for me. in an fkk you can instantly see all the girls' bodies. i catch myself first looking at a girl's tits. only if these look good i look at the face and the rest of the body.
it is sad that brazil is ashamed of their excellent program girls and puts up dress code or even closes termas and other houses during international events. germany has absolutely no qualms to have fkk open during world cups and frankfurt international trade fairs.
god bless romania. lots of girls look like they are right out of.
www.met-art.com
and have good attitudes. they tend to be more mechanical then brazilians, but they really know their moves. rarely do i get bothered by teeth, they know how do cow girl with exactly the right bucking movement. and a reasonable percentage of the girls seem to enjoy sex and have orgasms.
fkk probably select for the girls with the best bodies and tits. i hardly saw girls 20 and under, most i did were 22 to 25, past the age range i would pick in brazil. i often suspected that the girls were lying and actually younger then they said. but probably, they have their act together and did not get a couple of kids, like most brazilians. in general, the girls at fkk seem to be quite intelligent and educated. good news for you guys: most romanians speak much better english then german. even german and dutch girls speak great english. only turkish german girls sometimes fail to speak english.
hotel reservations:
www.hre.de
most train stations have tourist offices that get you a hotel reservations. look for information and tourist offices.
vodaphone web sessions:
it is best to get a separate chip for internet. the web session chip is expensive for phone calls, about 25 cents per minute outgoing. get a second chip for your phone needs. vodaphone is supposed to be one of the best german phone companies and has stores all over. you add balance with cards you find at newspaper stores, edeka supermarkets and everywhere. or just give your credit card number on the internet.
blau. de is a discount phone company, belonging to e2 (?). i got them at a hard to find electronics store in munich airport. they have good prices. i mistakenly took 1gb of internet, valid for a month, for 10 euro, not knowing i could have gotten 3 gb for 15 euro. when the balance is spent, it continues at really slow speed. 9 cents or less for outgoing phone calls. after about 32 euro in one month, it turns into an unlimited flat rate phone.
i also used telecom (t-online) paid wi-fi access (pretty good at all airports and can be found all over german cities. boingo wi-fi service was a total waste.
unfortunately, the moment you leave germany, or even get close to the border, you get into roaming and internet either stops working altogether or gets pretty expensive. probably one has to buy a sim card in every country one goes to, to have reliable internet. yes, most hotels have good internet, if you are happy to have internet access only at night time.
It was quite interesting to read about your impression of the different clubs. Just an advice: You should have inserted your TR into the respective threads. It makes it easier to find info about the clubs, and this thread is just about anything else.
I do agree that Oase is heaven on earth, but I can't believe that you have actually been to Artemis? IMO it is on par with Oase, even though a lot of the girls you find there now, is of the siliconized sort.
I've never been to the Globe in Zürich, but let's be honest about it: a club that advertise the double of the Frankfurt prices and which does not even include food in the entry fee. NO THANKS! It's already on my not-to-do-list! Of course, if I happen to be in Zürich for a layover and have nothing else to do, I might be tempted, but that's another story.
VenusModelsCy
06-29-12, 14:23
Hi there guys,
I am Nantia, I am escort from Cyprus. I also I am swinger and I like sex, so I am also some times paying. I am living in Cyprus and Unfortunately this kind of clubs is illegal here, and I wanted so much to go. I have bad luck in this island.
ZimmerBaby
06-29-12, 19:37
Artemis sucks, too many aging hard core siliconized pros. Artemis personified everything I don't like about girls. Career prostitutes, a bit past their prime, behaving a bit aggressively, plastic tits.
Summary:
The best wh. Ore house in the world, in my opinion is in Zurich. Twice the cost you would pay in Frankfurt. The best deal is Frankfurt. Oase is wonderful, did not have time to check the others. I hated Artemis in Berlin, but maybe I picked the wrong day.Guantanamo Bay next? ;)
Pity you didn't find the passion at Artemis. Having been there approx. 50 times I must say some days are better than others, but what emotions and attitudes we as customers bring in to the club plays a major role. Very interesting report btw; my only experience in Germany besides Artemis is Samya (Cologne). Lots of work to be done. Thank you for this useful report!
ZB
Member #4285
06-30-12, 00:44
Google Translate gav me this:
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Olympics off day. 50 € entry. We practice early times for the appearance at the Olympic size bed days. Can competitions available and die at m oz View Television.
Its from Bernds newssection (http://www.bernds-sauna-club.de/index_schieferhof_news.htm) but it sounds strange to have reduced entrance AND "couch action tag" the same day. How would you interpret this? I sent an Email but they have not replied yet (wrote in german). Only Palace has replied so far when sending questions.
Edit 1: I guess its just that they show the first day from the olympics on the TV? And to lure customers from the couch at home, they have reduced entry?
Edit 2: I see now that they just changed to a new text: "Olympiade-Rabatt-Tag, 50€ Eintritt wir üben schon mal für den großen Auftritt am Olympia-Couch-Tag und du kannst die Wettkämpfe auch bei uns im TV ansehen" with Google Translate gives: "We start practicing for the big show at the Olympic couch tag and you can also use the matches we watch on TV".
But no email reply.
Brazil Specialist
06-30-12, 15:14
Edit 2: I see now that they just changed to a new text: "Olympiade-Rabatt-Tag. 50€ Eintritt wir üben schon mal füare den großen Auftritt am Olympia-Couch-Tag und du kannst die Wettkämpfe auch bei uns I'm TV ansehen" with Google Translate gives: "We start practicing for the big show at the Olympic couch tag and you can also use the matches we watch on TV".Tag= day.
We start practicing for the big show at the Olympic couch DAY and you can also watch the matches at our place on TV"
I've never been to the Globe in Zürich, but let's be honest about it: a club that advertise the double of the Frankfurt prices and which does not even include food in the entry fee. NO THANKS! It's already on my not-to-do-list! Of course, if I happen to be in Zürich for a layover and have nothing else to do, I might be tempted, but that's another story.Zurich prices are victim of international monetary misdeeds in the Dollar and Euro region. Their currency is very highly valued, making everything very pricey. In exchange Swiss have to have top quality in order to stay competitive.
I see all these guys who pay 300 dollars at Centaurus in Rio, for one girl. So whoever has little time, lots of cash, and is looking for the best, Globe in Zurich is an option.
But I was thinking, if you get 2 girls at Oase, one probably is as good as one Globe girl. So you might get a ticket to Frankfurt and stay there for 1-2 weeks, take Oase as a safe bet and check out all the other FKK and brothels for curiosity.
Actually I should advertise Rio, but I am hard pressed to decide if I recommend Rio or Frankfurt. At least during summer, Frankfurt is a great place for sex tourists. Germans don't have the official government hangups they have in Brazil, where brothels are illegal and thus have to bribe police with substantial money and have to obey dress codes during international events. But Rio still is worth a visit, especially if you know where to go.
In that case, if you go to Rio, I rent rooms in my apartment.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3281-Brazil-Specialist-s-Rental-Apartments
Any such discussion only on the respective thread I linked.
Brazil Specialist
06-30-12, 21:02
Met several girls who, when asked, claimed to be from Brazil.
When I talked to them in Brazilian Portuguese, they looked dumbfounded and understood nothing.
Trying to live off the fame of Brazilian women.
2 of those were at Artemis. That is where I found 2 real Brazilians, too, but they were over the hill for my taste.
I started going to the gym after a long break. The changing rooms have lockers not unlike those of the wonderful establishments in NRW.
As I was changing, I nearly put on a towel around my waist and walked out into the cardio hall, expecting to see girls in all stages of undress!
I must say that over the last few months, my job took me quite often to the Düsseldorf region, and I became a fan of the fkk's. Talk about a Pavlovian reaction to changing in a locker room.)
I haven't been to a FKK but would like to go to the ones around Frankfurt before the end of this year. My question is: If you to a room with a woman and she starts to upsell you and you start to get bad vibes about her attitude, can you leave the room without obligation (paying anything)? Thanks.The answers you have received to this one are all valid, but it is probably better to go to a club where upselling, if it occurs at all, tends to be reasonable and not difficult to deflect. Then the problem will hopefully not arise.
Fortunately there are very good clubs in your target area. It would surprise if you had a major problem with this at Oase or World in the Frankfurt area.
Budget mentally for one poor session each visit, costing EUR 50. You will get more than enough spell-binding ones to compensate.
Your question evidences uncertainty, which is understandable from the comments you read on the forums. But fear not. Just go for it. I am sure if you use commonsense and judgment when choosing the girls, you will be fine. In fact you will probably blown away by the whole experience. Most of us are. Good luck.
Met several girls who, when asked, claimed to be from Brazil.
When I talked to them in Brazilian Portuguese, they looked dumbfounded and understood nothing.
Trying to live off the fame of Brazilian women.
2 of those were at Artemis. That is where I found 2 real Brazilians, too, but they were over the hill for my taste.I had the same experience at Palace. A girl claimed to be Brazilian. When I started to talk to her in Portuguese, she seemed to understand but replied in Spanish.
Amriptna111
07-01-12, 02:19
I had the same experience at Palace. A girl claimed to be Brazilian. When I started to talk to her in Portuguese, she seemed to understand but replied in Spanish.When I was with amelia oase she said her father is italian, mother is Romanian but today she is morroccan hahaha. Another oase girl say I can be a girl from any country you desire. So mongers just play along with the fantasy she can be any country you wish her to be. Even if the can speak portugesse it could be she learn it from sumwhere and at the end of the day be Romanian; p
Brazil Specialist
07-01-12, 03:11
I haven't been to a FKK but would like to go to the ones around Frankfurt before the end of this year. My question is: If you to a room with a woman and she starts to upsell you and you start to get bad vibes about her attitude, can you leave the room without obligation (paying anything)? Thanks.Once you are in a room, or even once you allow her to blow you in the public area, you are committed. You pay after the fact, but I would not want to get into an argument and try to refuse payment.
You cut your losses and pay 50 Euro. It is worse if you did not know the rules and incurred extra charges, like in colosseum: finger pussy. 50 Euro, finger ass 50 Euro, come in mouth 50 Euro, some dribble on the tits, another 50 Euro, passed beyond half hour, another 50 Euro. Know thy rules and make it clear to the girl that you don't want to pay more then 50 total.
I do prefer young girls, but not so much the porn look of certain girls I saw in Artemis. I fancy more the girl next door look that I sometimes see dominates the lineup in Oase. So the question remains: to living room or not to living room?That explains why I loved Oase, kept coming back, and fled Artemis without doing a single girl.
Hello!
Thank you Brazilian Specialist for a entertaining report.
Planned to check out Atmos Sauna Club. After reading some reports on German whoring boards, I decided to skip. Seems not too many girls, older then I prefer, and BBBJ only for 10 or 20 Euro extra. There is general consensus that Frankfurt and Artemis in Berlin are better. Considering that I considered Artemis crap, I figured I would rather do bicycling or tourism, or take care of my computer obligations.I think you should try Atmos if you go to Hamburg again. Yes the big clubs in Frankfurt and Artemis are better. Because they are bigger, nicer, more modern and have more girls attending every day most people (me included) will say that they are better. But Atmos is not in any way a bad place to visit. On all my visits there has been plenty of young german girls to choose from. And yes you have to pay extra for kissing and BBBJ, but compared to some real rip-offs (Reeperbahn!) these extras are cheap and you know about them before your session. 50+20=70E for 30 minutes of sex with a 21 years old blond german girl is still a bargain compared to 80E for a hand job with some grouping of breasts of a fully dressed girl!
The best deal is Frankfurt. If you can choose your place, pick Frankfurt.
God bless Romania.
FKK probably select for the girls with the best bodies and tits. I hardly saw girls 20 and under, most I did were 22 to 25, past the age range I would pick in Brazil.I have no idea if you have been to the Dusseldorf / Köln area or not. But if you like good deals (cheap prices) and young romainan girls (18-22) you will love Samya, LivingRoom, Acapulco and a lot of other clubs. Great pricelevels and beautiful girls.
T
When I was with amelia oase she said her father is italian, mother is Romanian but today she is morroccan hahaha. Another oase girl say I can be a girl from any country you desire. So mongers just play along with the fantasy she can be any country you wish her to be. Even if the can speak portugesse it could be she learn it from sumwhere and at the end of the day be Romanian; pAmripta111-
You just gave me a great idea. I've had sex with ladies from every continent on earth, except Antartica, and I assumed I never would. But, if you could give us the name of the lady at Oase that "can be from any country you desire", maybe I can then claim that I've had some Antartica pussy too. Will anyone be able to top that story, except the first guy to get laid on a space expedition? LOL.
Horbate
Amriptna111
07-01-12, 21:38
Amripta111-
You just gave me a great idea. I've had sex with ladies from every continent on earth, except Antartica, and I assumed I never would. But, if you could give us the name of the lady at Oase that "can be from any country you desire", maybe I can then claim that I've had some Antartica pussy too. Will anyone be able to top that story, except the first guy to get laid on a space expedition? LOL.
HorbateHahaha. Honestly I did not session with her as I saw marie dragging her arse in the cinema and I grabbed marie instead of her. But if you want to just approach any girl from oase and tell them " I want sex for 30 minutes with cim fpr 100 euro with kissess. Owh and you must be from antartica. Are you from antartica? I think there are good odds that you can find more than 1 girl that would happily say "I am from antartica. My father is antartican and my mom is Romanian. And my father goes to work on a camel."
Regards,
Guy who loves Romanian jokes
Member #4285
07-02-12, 06:34
I find it very often that the girls ask me if I have a girlfriend or not. It could be just chit chat etcetera or maybe they really prefer single / not single men. Have you thought about this before?
Hessen Bub
07-02-12, 07:06
Just chit chat. Money from married men is always welcome.
HB
Just wondering do any clubs have defibrillators. A girl informed me that a gent had a heart attack which gave her a freight and she did not know what to do. Do working girls have any training in mouth to mouth respiration. Maybe if you hadn't paid for DFK you would be in trouble. Most sports clubs have such equipment and why should us athletics be discriminated against
Just wondering do any clubs have defibrillators. A girl informed me that a gent had a heart attack which gave her a freight and she did not know what to do. Do working girls have any training in mouth to mouth respiration. Maybe if you hadn't paid for DFK you would be in trouble. Most sports clubs have such equipment and why should us athletics be discriminated againstI don't think the clubs are equipped with defibrillators, but they sure would save lifes. With the physical condition (or lack of it) of some of the gents presents, it surprises me that there's not a defibrillator in every club. The girls do have training in mouth to mouth, but I guess their tongue only makes the situation worse (sorry couldn't help myself). But seriously speaking, people with severe heart conditions should avoid any visit to an FKK. By my first visit I actually thought I'd already died and gone to heaven. Couldn't think of a better place to pass away!
By my first visit I actually thought I'd already died and gone to heaven.I don't think that the mongers will go to heaven. I would assume just opposite way. Too many sins. Thanks god I am not religion.
I don't think that the mongers will go to heaven. I would assume just opposite way. Too many sins. Thanks god I am not religion.As long as it ressembles an FKK club, I don't care if it's called heaven or hell.
Member #4243
07-03-12, 19:57
I thought the following idea could be of real use in the clubs especially the larger clubs. The girls could all wear a little traffic light ribbon in their hair. Green / available yellow / possible go ahead red / currently or shortly to be engaged hence not available. This may also help our friends with cardiac failure approaching so as to take the guess work out of which girl or not to approach! By the way I'm kidding LOL.
Agree with BS on his summary. He not talking BS when it comes to Zurich being the best place to punt for the best and most attractive hookers in town. If you take out the price factor, the choice and quality of service is extremely high in these clubs. There must be at least one hooker per banker in this city! The ratio probably higher in the last 2 years given how many bankers have lost their jobs and the German; Russian and Romanians are coming in their thousands to chase the strong CHF.
Given all my 12 years of punting from Shanghai; Beijing; Macua; China K-Bar; HK; Warsaw; Prague; USA; FKKLand and UK. Zurich
Is porbably the BEST for lineup and quality of service IMHO.
Clubs Aprodisiac and Club Living. Has no entry fee, you can order copious amount of alcoholic drinks and your not obliged to go with any girls (prices are 240 CHF for solid 30 mins at Club Living and 280 at Aprodisia http://www.clubaphrodisia.ch/)
FKK Globe is 95CHF and 150 for 30 mins with many stunners. (but no food)
Bums Alp. Is my all time favourite in Zurich. 90 CHF entry; lineup as good as Globe! ; Good quality Buffet food and unlimited premium brand alcoholic drinks and beers. Great facility and only 15 from the airport. http://www.bumsalp.ch/
There this triangle trend where the same girls tend to swap from Globe-Aprodisia-BumsAlps.
BS. You should also try Dusseldorf, currently the best lineup in NWR is now Acapulco. Simply the best lineup for natural beauty;
Youth; and silicone free breasts.
Summary:
The best wh. Ore house in the world, in my opinion is in Zurich. Twice the cost you would pay in Frankfurt. The best deal is Frankfurt. Oase is wonderful, did not have time to check the others. I hated Artemis in Berlin, but maybe I picked the wrong day. If you can choose your place, pick Frankfurt and / or Z&65533; rich.
Brazil Specialist
07-04-12, 02:05
I don't think the clubs are equipped with defibrillators, but they sure would save lifes. With the physical condition (or lack of it) of some of the gents presents, it surprises me that there's not a defibrillator in every club. The girls do have training in mouth to mouth, but I guess their tongue only makes the situation worse (sorry couldn't help myself). But seriously speaking, people with severe heart conditions should avoid any visit to an FKK. By my first visit I actually thought I'd already died and gone to heaven. Couldn't think of a better place to pass away!At some FKK have seen signs all over pointing to locations of defibrillators.
Probably was in FKK Globe in Zürich. If not there, then must have been in Oase.
Most likely it was in Zürich. The Swiss are more meticulous at everything.
Frej Of Asgaard
07-04-12, 20:06
I don't think that the mongers will go to heaven. I would assume just opposite way. Too many sins. Thanks god I am not religion.It depends on whether or not you think that having sex is a sin! It is not in my book.
Being the representative for the Norse God mythology on this board, I would like to start a new modern version of the Viking beliefs.
The ancient Norse belief was, that if you die in battle, you will go to Valhalla! That is too violent for modern day.
The modern amended version should be: If you die while having sex (or being about to) , you will go to Valhalla FKK!
Frej Of Asgaard
07-04-12, 20:22
Just wondering do any clubs have defibrillators. A girl informed me that a gent had a heart attack which gave her a freight and she did not know what to do. Do working girls have any training in mouth to mouth respiration. Maybe if you hadn't paid for DFK you would be in trouble. Most sports clubs have such equipment and why should us athletics be discriminated againstWhenever I have been to a FKK or Sauna Club I never looked for any defibrilators.
But now that you made me think about it, I would recommend any club to have at least one. Actually it ought to be mandatory, and the girls should be given basic intructions about what to do in case of a client heart attack.
There comes many not so young clients, and many overweight clients to the FKK clubs. Lots of Diabetes 2 candidates or patients. Quite a few visitors have been taking Viagra or other anti-impotence drugs. And most of these drugs effects the heart also. Viagra (Sildenafil) was originally (and still is) a heart disease drug.
With many stunningly beautiful naked women around, which could raise the pulse significantly the risk of heart attack is multiplied many times compared to normal conditions.
Hessen Bub
07-04-12, 21:05
As long as the girls at Oase, World, Sharks etc. Make my heart jump. Who needs a defibrilator?
H
I thought the following idea could be of real use in the clubs especially the larger clubs. The girls could all wear a little traffic light ribbon in their hair. Green / available yellow / possible go ahead red / currently or shortly to be engaged hence not available.As a friend said, they should probably also wear a football shirt with name and number on it. It would make life a lot easyer on this forum. :)
Kimino
Brazil Specialist, you have convinced me that I should visit Globe in Switzerland next. But today, I kept hearing people raving about "Higgs Bussom" being discovered in Switzerland somewhere. Is this a new FKK?
Agree with BS on his summary. He not talking BS when it comes to Zurich being the best place to punt for the best and most attractive hookers in town. If you take out the price factor, the choice and quality of service is extremely high in these clubs. There must be at least one hooker per banker in this city! The ratio probably higher in the last 2 years given how many bankers have lost their jobs and the German; Russian and Romanians are coming in their thousands to chase the strong CHF.
Given all my 12 years of punting from Shanghai; Beijing; Macua; China K-Bar; HK; Warsaw; Prague; USA; FKKLand and UK. Zurich
Is porbably the BEST for lineup and quality of service IMHO.
Clubs Aprodisiac and Club Living. Has no entry fee, you can order copious amount of alcoholic drinks and your not obliged to go with any girls (prices are 240 CHF for solid 30 mins at Club Living and 280 at Aprodisia.
http://www.clubaphrodisia.ch/
)
FKK Globe is 95CHF and 150 for 30 mins with many stunners. (but no food)
Bums Alp. Is my all time favourite in Zurich. 90 CHF entry; lineup as good as Globe! ; Good quality Buffet food and unlimited premium brand alcoholic drinks and beers. Great facility and only 15 from the airport.
http://www.bumsalp.ch/
There this triangle trend where the same girls tend to swap from Globe-Aprodisia-BumsAlps.
BS. You should also try Dusseldorf, currently the best lineup in NWR is now Acapulco. Simply the best lineup for natural beauty;
Youth; and silicone free breasts.Simex, nice summary of Zurich. This is better than any post on the Zurich forum. That forum is anemic. May be because those rich bankers don't have time to feed information to us wankers.
Brazil Specialist, you have convinced me that I should visit Globe in Switzerland next. But today, I kept hearing people raving about "Higgs Bussom" being discovered in Switzerland somewhere. Is this a new FKK?No. They found God (God particle). :-)
No. They found God (God particle). :-)Maybe it is just me, but I would never refer to those fine tits as particle; they're Godly for sure.
Member #4285
07-05-12, 05:13
I have been to:
Artemis.
Oase.
Palace.
Golden Time.
I have done it at Golden Time in one of the outdoor sofas. It was under the sky but not under the sun due to it was in night time and a little chill (September). At Oase there is a upper sofa that could be fun (without "sky") , but the new garden maybe gives some more options nowdays? The Palace had no outdoor and Artemis is under construction. Wich club do you think is the best for this kind of action? Is there any better club for this then Golden Time? Maybe World (never been there).
Member #4243
07-05-12, 19:16
The t shirt idea would not work as we want them to be clothless. Anything less would deem the flight to germany pointless! How about ultra violet tagging where each customer is supplied with a scanner like at the supermarket to scan and bleep each girl's personal data as an aid to the selection process? The girls would then have to hide a small readable chip in their hair. This would doubtless aid our colleagues who are about to experience imminent cardiac arrest! LOL
I have been to:
Artemis.
Oase.
Palace.
Golden Time.
I have done it at Golden Time in one of the outdoor sofas. It was under the sky but not under the sun due to it was in night time and a little chill (September). At Oase there is a upper sofa that could be fun (without "sky") , but the new garden maybe gives some more options nowdays? The Palace had no outdoor and Artemis is under construction. Wich club do you think is the best for this kind of action? Is there any better club for this then Golden Time? Maybe World (never been there).Between the two, I prefer doing it at GT outdoor area over world. The area where I did at GT was surrounded by trees and not wide open. Bit of seclusion adds to the ambiance in my opinion. GT outdoor sofas are also better.
As a friend said, they should probably also wear a football shirt with name and number on it. It would make life a lot easyer on this forum. .
KiminoSeriously though, I have said this for years and even suggested to several FKK managers: The girls in Sauna clubs should wear name tags and languages they speak (not the country of origin). It really helps break the ice. If they provided something you can write on, heck, even I would wear one on my robe.
Seriously though, I have said this for years and even suggested to several FKK managers: The girls in Sauna clubs should wear name tags and languages they speak (not the country of origin). It really helps break the ice. If they provided something you can write on, heck, even I would wear one on my robe.Talking seriously, that would really make me feel like being at Macdonalds. I would probably loose any interest. Obviously personal.
Ciao.
Kimino
If anyone is going to wear something to identify themselves, why not armbands for the men: Red= Stop, don't approach-I'm here for the food & furnishings; Yellow= Hold on now, I've just sessioned & am resting / waiting for someone, (but Ok, give it your best shot) ; Green= Bring it on, I'm Ready to play!
LOL.
Myr.
If anyone is going to wear something to identify themselves, why not armbands for the men: Red= Stop, don't approach-I'm here for the food & furnishings; Yellow= Hold on now, I've just sessioned & am resting / waiting for someone, (but Ok, give it your best shot) ; Green= Bring it on, I'm Ready to play!
LOL.
Myr.LOL.
And maybe Fuxia= I'm gay, don't even bother.
For when you really had enough.
Kimino
LOL.
And maybe Fuxia= I'm gay, don't even bother.
For when you really had enough.
KiminoThat won't work, they will still try. The only 100% sure thing is "I don't have any money left"
UShobbyist
07-06-12, 16:58
I have been to:
Artemis.
Oase.
Palace.
Golden Time.
I have done it at Golden Time in one of the outdoor sofas. It was under the sky but not under the sun due to it was in night time and a little chill (September). At Oase there is a upper sofa that could be fun (without "sky") , but the new garden maybe gives some more options nowdays? The Palace had no outdoor and Artemis is under construction. Wich club do you think is the best for this kind of action? Is there any better club for this then Golden Time? Maybe World (never been there).FKK Oase is the best for sex under bright daylight. There are 4 sofas to form a square next to those tents in the new garden. Further south, there are 5 new beds along the dirt wall. There are also two sofas with shades but you can adjust the sofas to face the sunlight.
Maybe I'm missing something, but what's the difference between this and the General Info thread?
As if we didn't have enough threads already...
OneNightInKoln
07-07-12, 04:37
Hope I've got the right place to post this as never used forum before. I will be in the Cologne area on Sunday pm and wanted to try my first experience of a FKK club. I've been to parlours before but these sound much better. I like the idea of lots of girls, public shows, friendly atmosphere and good service. I'll be mobile but don't want to go too far from central Cologne, maybe 45 mins / an hour tops. Can you suggest some places where I'm more likely to have a good time? I've read a few reviews and seems to depend on who's there on the day, but would be grateful if you could suggest a few which are usually better?
Thanks
Maybe I'm missing something, but what's the difference between this and the General Info thread?
As if we didn't have enough threads already.I think it's purpose is to give the opportunity to chat a bit without worrying too much about going off topic and with less stricter rules in general. At least this is my interpretation.
Kimino
OneNightInKoln
07-07-12, 17:01
Hope I've got the right place to post this as never used forum before. I will be in the Cologne area on Sunday pm and wanted to try my first experience of a FKK club. I've been to parlours before but these sound much better. I like the idea of lots of girls, public shows, friendly atmosphere and good service. I'll be mobile but don't want to go too far from central Cologne, maybe 45 mins / an hour tops. Can you suggest some places where I'm more likely to have a good time? I've read a few reviews and seems to depend on who's there on the day, but would be grateful if you could suggest a few which are usually better?
ThanksHope I have and someone can offer a few suggestions as departing tomorrow.
Hope I have and someone can offer a few suggestions as departing tomorrow.Go to Samya. There is a Samya thread with tons of info. Search the forum for directions. It can be easily reached by public transportation. Travel time from Cologne central train station should be around 30 minutes or less by train.
Frej Of Asgaard
07-07-12, 21:41
I have been to:
Artemis.
Oase.
Palace.
Golden Time.
I have done it at Golden Time in one of the outdoor sofas. It was under the sky but not under the sun due to it was in night time and a little chill (September). At Oase there is a upper sofa that could be fun (without "sky") , but the new garden maybe gives some more options nowdays? The Palace had no outdoor and Artemis is under construction. Wich club do you think is the best for this kind of action? Is there any better club for this then Golden Time? Maybe World (never been there).I have been to Artemis, Oase, World, Palace, Happy Garden, Goldentime, Villa Vertigo, Samya, Acapulco & Livingroom.
The biggest garden of any of those clubs are with out a doubt FKK World. The garden of World is so big, that you can find parts of it, where you could have outdoor sex without other people watching (except from very long away). If the point instead is that you want others to watch, you can have sex closer to the main building. I have seen others do that before. But it is not seen as often as in Goldentime, where there is basically a part of the garden, where there is constantly someone having sex (if the weather is warm enough).
My favourite Club on a warm summerday would be either World or Goldentime.
Frej Of Asgaard
07-07-12, 22:01
hope i've got the right place to post this as never used forum before. i will be in the cologne area on sunday pm and wanted to try my first experience of a fkk club. i've been to parlours before but these sound much better. i like the idea of lots of girls, public shows, friendly atmosphere and good service. i'll be mobile but don't want to go too far from central cologne, maybe 45 mins / an hour tops. can you suggest some places where i'm more likely to have a good time? i've read a few reviews and seems to depend on who's there on the day, but would be grateful if you could suggest a few which are usually better?
thanksfkk samya are situated in the southern suburbs of cologne. 9 km from the center. that should do the trick. just write "fkk samya" in googlemaps to see the location.
if you have a car you could also drive to livingroom or goldentime. goldentime is the furthest away, but still only one hour (85 km) from cologne. with a fast car it might be only 45 minutes since it is light traffic on a sunday, and some of those autobahn parts are without speed limits.
just be aware that if you look turkish / middle eastern or black then goldentime is probably a bad idea, since they might not let you in.
Hope I have and someone can offer a few suggestions as departing tomorrow.As others have said Samya is the easiest club to reach in Koeln.
I was going to say be aware that they open at 15:00 on a Sunday, however checking their website apparently from 1st may this year they are now open from 13:00 like most other clubs in NRW. (I didn't know that!)
I'm not sure what you mean by public shows but Living Room has a kino where sometimes there is some public action at the back, I have had a few fun sessions there myself, but it is a little too dark for my liking.
The last couple of trips I have gone to Dolce Vita in Dusseldorf on a Sunday and have not been disappointed, the added advantage of this club is that on a Sunday before 20:00 the girls are naked.
Which ever club you choose have a good time.
Member #4285
07-07-12, 23:44
Between the two, I prefer doing it at GT outdoor area over world. The area where I did at GT was surrounded by trees and not wide open. Bit of seclusion adds to the ambiance in my opinion. GT outdoor sofas are also better.
But it is not seen as often as in Goldentime, where there is basically a part of the garden, where there is constantly someone having sex (if the weather is warm enough).It will be GT then. I have now booked a flight for middle of August. Only been there once and a long time ago, it will be fun to enyo this fantastic place again =)
Still 25E for an additional halv hour? 50 or 25 for CIM?
Member #4243
07-09-12, 03:23
I am planning 6 nites in frankfurt in September with 4 full fkk days. I've got oase lined up for wed / fri / sat and that is 100 percent set. The problem I am finding being limited to frankfurt area is how to add a bit of variation for the last day. Mainhatten, over commercialised palace etc just don't seem to offer the same "comforts" as oase whilst at the same time it would be nice to add some variation by mixing in another frankfurt club. What do members think; should I do the final day which would be a mon / tue at oase making it 4 days there or do members have any ideas as to where I could do the final day hence adding a bit more of a mix to the trip. Many thanks
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