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Citizen Kane
05-15-16, 19:57
Sure, it's individual. Taste and genre are linked to culture and what you are accustomed to.
Eurovision stuff are unique, pretty interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1c7gDOaFY0
Manele was the just the same, something I got used after listening to it so many times at clubs. Same for Romie hits. Just more exposure.I had a theory a couple of years back that the whole FKK / Sauna Club scene was in fact a subliminal advertising campaign set up by the record industry to sell Rihanna records.
PussyLiccker
05-15-16, 20:28
Probably not any real motives like that, but just the management pulling "top hits" out there. I think I've seen some sort of rack for music in the back, and perhaps some copyright stuff involved for them to play current hits in the club.
I've seen girl ask DJs for music too. Yeah, some music are on loop. Sharks I don't pay too much attention, but I think subconsciously it seep in like the radio playing songs repeatedly. GT during the daytime I hear 80's-90's rock/hits, or modern hits mixed. Closer to American rock at GT. Finca played mainly old school hip-hop, and some German hip-hop mixed in. Turkish Mondial at times play old school hip-hop. Dunno if Turkish folks are years behind in their hits like Tupac, etc.
Oase is the club I just recall these Romie hits playing repeatedly, and the ones I mentioned below. It may have to do with the intimate atmosphere with the girls on Saturday night for those types of music to stick. Girls dancing etc.
If you've been to Samya or Mondial, you know how Manele sticks. It's just the whole atmosphere with the girls dancing etc.(all of a sudden music changes, and girls getting up to dance in mass to a particular track, it makes you think it's special), that locks it in I think.
Old school radio is just that. They play "hot hits" repeatedly for more exposure. It works as marketing.
StarletVoyager
05-15-16, 21:39
My favorite music is when its turned off. I just prefer the fan whether that be standing or ceiling mounted switched to medium or high according to the weather. The window just a touch open if there is one. I find that if a tune comes on that I like it can act as a distraction. The background sound of the fan is ideal. However if I had to pick then old skool rnb and have yet to sample the Bavarian folk music PL mentioned LOL!! I like my room set up perfect like the high ranking 8-9/10 optiks girls which are the only reason I visit these clubs. I can tolerate almost anything but if the bins in the room are full of tissues or there are stains on the bed I'll ask her to switch to another room. If for any reason she won't then I just move on. That's rare though as I go for hour rooms.
I do not listen to any metal or industrial music, but when it comes to FKK. I love nine inch nail like I want to fuck you like animal song LOL!
Anal and some nine inch nails hard song goes well LOL!
PussyLiccker
05-16-16, 05:17
Here is a sample of Bavarian folk for you SV, quite unique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8n_g5eTDRQ Something different.
Very unique.Eurovision 2010 winner Lena Meyer-Landrut (the brunette) is uber cute German girl (Hungarian-Estonian). Although the song was written for her (US writer), she's a very capable performer with so much charm.
Personally, I think she has more charisma than Tyler Swift. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eeQUjoCEq0&t=1m48s.
This was the song that landed her the win, very unique performance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abpbnPCWwNM.
Hessen Bub
05-16-16, 08:53
Eurovision 2010 winner Lena Meyer-Landrut (the brunette) is uber cute German girl (Hungarian-Estonian). Although the song was written for her (US writer), she's a very capable performer with so much charm.Hungarian Estonian?
HB.
According to wikipedia she is 75% german and 25% hungarian. Her grandfather was just baltic born german. Even if he was born in estonia. You know, in the old days they called people what they were, and didnt used politically motivated terms as they do today where everyone and their mother can call themselves german after only living there for a year or two and obtaining a german passport, lol
Reminds me of a few incidents at artemis. Some girls ask a bunsh of arabs or africans where they come from, and the guys tell them 'Sweden'. Then the girls give them this stupid look and ask again 'No, really? Where do you come from?' And the guys allways gets set back a little saying something like this 'Well, we originally came from Africa (or Iraq), but we have all been told to say we are swedish now'. Then it goes 'Oh, right, so you are from Iraq'. And all the girls get in return is a mute 'yes'.
They allways seem to come from Sweden though. I think the Swedish social security system has to be the greatest single contributor to the entire FKK industry. Lol
Hessen Bub
05-16-16, 10:35
She is German, not only her passport. Can't get much more German than her.
HB.
She is German, not only her passport. Can't get much more German than her.
HB.Well, she could be 100% german and not 75%. Not that it matters, but 100 is 25 more than 75...
From wikipedia: Her grandmother: 'Hanna Karatsony von Hodos who was of Hungarian nobility'
Hessen Bub
05-16-16, 11:24
100% German blood doesn't also mean 100% German character. From her looks and behavior she is German.
HB.
They allways seem to come from Sweden though. I think the Swedish social security system has to be the greatest single contributor to the entire FKK industry. LolPerhaps the authorities tell them to go to Artemis on taxpayers money so they don't [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) their own citizens, LOL.
Not likely bc it this was the case they wouldn't import all these so called refugees and put their people in danger in the first place. Most of the refugees don't contribute value I. E. Tax besides pumping out babies since the State will pay for everything.
Well they are all men with testosterone, so what do they (the politicians) expect? The whole system is so flawed its a tragedy for the taxpayers and the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) victims. But at least the FKK girls can cash in on it.
Ironically enough, swedish politicians are the most feministic in the whole world, so the chances of allowing prostitution in sweden is slim to none... Which means all the cash goes abroad. To Germany (and Romania) in this case...
3 weeks ago in Koln, bought a lycamobile 10 eur 1 gb data card, lasts 1 month. No registration needed.
Been a godsend here in frankfurt, not very fast but perfect for Google maps etc and accessing the good forum here, which is blocked on hotel wifi.
Using it in an older simfree smartphone, which means I can leave my new phone back in the hotel.
90% of their case against prostitution is based on conflating being forced to work because you need the money (which all of us do) with being forced to work because of threats or violence (which is rare and anyway not limited to prostitutionGirls get beaten and threatened, but generally it doesn't need to happen. Make an example out of someone, the rest behave.
Female activists focus too much on the horrific trafficking scene from a decade ago. Deception, kidnapping, beating, and taking 90% of a WG's money is not a sustainable long-term recruitment strategy. WGs from RO have been going to Western Europe for 20 years, so conservatively we can estimate that several hundred thousand WGs have returned to their villages since that time. Some may have been too traumatized or ashamed to talk, but majority would have shared their stories.
"Lover boy" and "false employment contract" scam is two decades old. Young EE girls are taught about these scams like Western European girls are taught about men who touch children. Nobody should be falling for it anymore.
Think the girls seem to like this SIDO song more, perhaps due to the lyrics from the female artist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjBAGEAj-CY
Seen drunk middle-aged German men doing karaoke to this song at Mondial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2czABFw6RnE
Hessen Bub
05-16-16, 20:39
"Lover boy" and "false employment contract" scam is two decades old. Young EE girls are taught about these scams like Western European girls are taught about men who touch children. Nobody should be falling for it anymore.Shouldn't. But many many many still do.
HB.
Been a godsend here in frankfurt, not very fast but perfect for Google maps etc and accessing the good forum here, which is blocked on hotel wifi.Well that's a hotel to avoid.
Eurovision 2010 winner Lena Meyer-Landrut (the brunette) is uber cute German girl (Hungarian-Estonian). Although the song was written for her (US writer), she's a very capable performer with so much charm.I'm totally not particularly attracted to her at all. She has an "OK" girl next door face but an absolutely way too thin, emaciated-looking body that I don't like. Yuck! Give me some cushion for pushing! Don't want no boney ass girl!
You must have found the slimmest picture of her on the web. Iirc she was hardly thin a few years ago. Anyway, there are lots of eurovision artists I would much rather session with.
Looking at that picture makes me think she has obtained anorexia... too bad
PussyLiccker
05-17-16, 04:57
I'm totally not particularly attracted to her at all. She has an "OK" girl next door face but an absolutely way too thin, emaciated-looking body that I don't like. Yuck! Give me some cushion for pushing! Don't want no boney ass girl!Wow, really? I think she looks lovely. Lovely enough to get some Loreal gigs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLF8Z9KzY_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR9FYypenNc
I like the sound of German when spoken by lovely girls, and she exemplifies it. Hehe.
Here is a video of her sizing compared to a milfy host.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7WsWhgQxY&t=2m19s
She seems really quirky. Hehe.
She must be too slim or just not the right build for you. I'm into varieties of body types (although I have more of an ideal type), so for me, she looks quite lovely, especially the face. I think she looks better and more womanly now than in her teens.
Who do you think is really attractive Cane?
I am curious. Why do girls kiss in the rooms but don't like to be seem kissing in public by other girls / men?
Quick sum up:
Why they don't want to be seen by other men: YMMV.
Why they don't want to be seen by other girls: sharky atmosphere and upsales.
Public sex is still worth it sometimes, but it comes with a cost. And its not because of people being afraid to be seen... or shy...
1. Smart girls tell their friends that they give bad service
2. Groups make rules so that it easier for them to make upsales.
3. Smarter girls don't give a damn, and still do everything in the room. Thus gaining a long term customer.
4. Tourists gets screwed over anyway... so might as well do stuff in public then...
If you pay a girl she'll do it I suppose. Yesterday at FKK Colosseum a girl squatted at the bar in front of a customer and sucked his dick for what looked like 15 or 20 minutes. The way nobody seemed to notice was eerie. No one batted an eyelid. It was a vivid illustration of mankind's ability to look the other way and not see the elephant in the room.
Member #4585
05-17-16, 22:21
I am curious. Why do girls kiss in the rooms but don't like to be seem kissing in public by other girls / men?Various reasons.
Usual explanation is that if one man sees her kissing another man publically then the first man will expect the same service as well. A girl is then able to pick and choose who she kisses or not.
StarletVoyager
05-17-16, 23:20
I Agree totally give me lena anytime. Now this is uncanny around 3 years ago there was a polish brunette 19 year old named yulia at oase. What a resemblance and she was great in the room too. with regards to the folk music i do enjoy surfing late night german bars talking to drunk locals whilst this german music plays from the dukebox.lol marilena is lovely too.
Member #4585
05-17-16, 23:52
Girls get beaten and threatened, but generally it doesn't need to happen. Make an example out of someone, the rest behave.
Deception, kidnapping, beating, and taking 90% of a WG's money is not a sustainable long-term recruitment strategy. WGs from RO have been going to Western Europe for 20 years, so conservatively we can estimate that several hundred thousand WGs have returned to their villages since that time. Some may have been too traumatized or ashamed to talk, but majority would have shared their stories.
"Lover boy" and "false employment contract" scam is two decades old. Young EE girls are taught about these scams like Western European girls are taught about men who touch children. Nobody should be falling for it anymore.As Sirioja likes to say, if you spend like one hour at opening time or closing time seeing the girls being dropped off at work or being picked up from work in the club. You see all the BMWs, Audis and Porsches spilling out girls but driven and accompanied by young Romanian boys. You wonder whether can any of these girls actually drive a car or not since they certainly need a driver?
Always the girls in the club are keen to not get involved with the fish that come into the club looking for freelance girls to recruit to their own stables. As one girl says, Sharks is full of pimps, old German men or Turkish customers: whatever that is suppose to mean.
Then you go to the downtown cafes that are frequented by the Romanians staying in Frankfurt and sit quietly having your meal or drinks and listen to the conversation when the fish bring in their stable of girls to be fed. So sorry to hear the obedience of the girls to their loverboys. These girls give all their money they earn in the clubs fucking old and fat men to give to their loverboys or their "protection". It is upsetting to see these perfectly good girls being subservient to these Romanian pimps (fish).
You get the fish in all the FKK clubs but to see them in the normal cafes as well is another thing.
As Sirioja likes to say, if you spend like one hour at opening time or closing time seeing the girls being dropped off at work or being picked up from work in the club. You see all the BMWs, Audis and Porsches spilling out girls but driven and accompanied by young Romanian boys. You wonder whether can any of these girls actually drive a car or not since they certainly need a driver?
At Artemis I've seen lots of the girls drive their own cars. Its a little hard to spot at Oase because the parking lot is a bit away from the door, but I'm sure some of them drive at Oase too. Most girls at Artemis have BMW's though, but I've seen a girl there driving this funky small electric car too.
BadinSweet
05-18-16, 10:19
Does anyone know who was the Shark girl, 19, that was killed a couple weeks ago? Someone told me about it that she normally sleeps at the club. But that day she went with her "boyfriend", who was Albanian, and they were both found dead the next day? That was all the details I was told. I probably don't know this person but just curious.
Does anyone know who was the Shark girl, 19, that was killed a couple weeks ago? Someone told me about it that she normally sleeps at the club. But that day she went with her "boyfriend", who was Albanian, and they were both found dead the next day? That was all the details I was told. I probably don't know this person but just curious.I heard about this from one of the girls when I was there recently. She said that's what prompted the police raid. Really sad event.
I'm not sure though if we should be discussing this? I certainly decided when I was told that I wouldn't be broadcasting it.
I heard about this from one of the girls when I was there recently. She said that's what prompted the police raid. Really sad event.
I'm not sure though if we should be discussing this? I certainly decided when I was told that I wouldn't be broadcasting it.AFAIK the last raid at Sharks had nothing to do with that really sad and tragic incident with the dead girl. The reason for the routine raid were the current investigation about tax issues and status of self-employment of the WG.
And more I'm also don't write about this bc there are still too many rumors about this and for me the truth know most likely only two person and both of them are dead.
PussyLiccker
05-18-16, 13:54
Quick sum up:
Why they don't want to be seen by other men: YMMV.
Why they don't want to be seen by other girls: sharky atmosphere and upsales.
Public sex is still worth it sometimes, but it comes with a cost. And its not because of people being afraid to be seen... or shy...
1. Smart girls tell their friends that they give bad service
2. Groups make rules so that it easier for them to make upsales.
3. Smarter girls don't give a damn, and still do everything in the room. Thus gaining a long term customer.
4. Tourists gets screwed over anyway... so might as well do stuff in public then...It's interesting because public action was more common in the past. At least my time was kissing to be more common. The question is why different now?
This happens in RTCs or some refer to as service clubs. Similar to Oase as far as BBBJ on the couch, but kissing is much more common. It's a normal thing there, and probably has been, and keeps going.
One argument is that girls don't do it any more because of the reason above, but why in the past more common? I would say, as less girls do it, the opposite becomes more common, and probably for reasons like YMMV and for business advantage in the scenario.
Although, I think when it was more common in the past, what she provides outside the room is public so other men can see what she provides, and she is ok with advertising her services. That means if more girls did it, it was more of a norm, and girl were willing to display what is provided on the open, but why different now is the question.
Hessen Bub
05-18-16, 15:58
The reason for the routine raid were the current investigation about tax issues and status of self-employment of the WG.
And more I'm also don't write about this bc there are still too many rumors about this and for me the truth know most likely only two person and both of them are dead.+1. No additional rumours. Officially the raid (I'd call it a normal police check / control) at Sharks was part of a nationwide control in connection with trafficking of Nigerian girls.
HB.
.... These girls give all their money they earn in the clubs fucking old and fat men to give to their loverboys or their "protection". It is upsetting to see these perfectly good girls being subservient to these Romanian pimps (fish).How can you go on patronizing prostitutes given the circumstances your describe? The least you should do is resign from this forum and stop giving your money to the loverboys you mention. You are cold-bloodedly financing organized crime and human rights' violations!
Member #4585
05-18-16, 19:33
How can you go on patronizing prostitutes given the circumstances your describe? The least you should do is resign from this forum and stop giving your money to the loverboys you mention. You are cold-bloodedly financing organized crime and human rights' violations!I am a pragmatic guy. Probably just like you.
I am a pragmatic guy. Probably just like you.I don't need to be pragmatic since I don't buy into that narrative.
So sorry to hear the obedience of the girls to their loverboys. These girls give all their money they earn in the clubs fucking old and fat men to give to their loverboys or their "protection". It is upsetting to see these perfectly good girls being subservient to these Romanian pimps (fish).
Just because I think the "loverboy" or "false employment contract" scam is less prevalent than two decades ago, does not mean that I believe that pimps / gangs have been somehow pushed out of the picture. Quite the contrary. My contention is most WGs enter the business voluntarily. And that paying for "protection" cannot be avoided. WGs do not act alone, neither do pimps. At minimum, there is a loose alliance among pimps in a region, and organized crime collecting money from that alliance of pimps.
Burglars will specifically "profile". They will target who they believe to hoard vast sums of cash: drug dealers, pimps, WGs, Asian merchants, senior citizens etc. Security should be a paramount concern to these groups if it isn't.
I don't need to be pragmatic since I don't buy into that narrative.There are pimps. Organized crime is heavily involved in the German sex business. Romanian, Albanian mafia, Hells Angels, Turkish Gangs, they are all there. I don't fool myself but I really don't mind I still go to FKK.
StarletVoyager
05-19-16, 04:17
Could there be a crime wave in its early infancy with the relaxation of borders and incoming refugees from all over the place? Time will tell. It wasn't as noticeable in 2009 or 2010. Still Germany is behind Paris and London in this regard due to liberalism of laws as I posted before. I was sad to hear the bad news below what the hell is happening someone please explain?
Member #4585
05-19-16, 07:05
Could there be a crime wave in its early infancy with the relaxation of borders and incoming refugees from all over the place? Time will tell. It wasn't as noticeable in 2009 or 2010. Still Germany is behind Paris and London in this regard due to liberalism of laws as I posted before. I was sad to hear the bad news below what the hell is happening someone please explain?Hi SV, yes it is a very sad situation. As you can see, our fellow ISG member, does not believe that pimping exists. That of course is his prerogative and is allowed to feel this way. It indeed is bad news as you say.
I even had a conversation with a friend who did not believe there was pimping even in London or Dublin let alone in Spain or Italy where mongering also goes on. He only thought pimping and fish occurs in Germany only since he only sees Romanian girls in the clubs. Go figure that one.
Does anyone know who was the Shark girl, 19, that was killed a couple weeks ago? Someone told me about it that she normally sleeps at the club. But that day she went with her "boyfriend", who was Albanian, and they were both found dead the next day? That was all the details I was told. I probably don't know this person but just curious.If You didn t know this poor girl, her club name is not important. What is important for me, is I don t think she died alone, sleeping in her bed or falling from her bed and she was too young to die. But not the only one, some girls ran away from World, not because of lack of business, a top model moved to Sharks and had also problems at Sharks. I wish her to be better and to stay away from hells. I don t call albanians or bulgarians or romanians or some turkish or russians, BF, they just want money girls make and when girls are not able to make money anymore, they forget their big love.
Polizei is very efficient on autobahn to run after foreigners, so when they control a club, not only taxes to control, I think they know as well as me some tattoes talk, even some girls have these tattoes, they could also control phones and cars on parking, to clean the brothels pimps shit and help poor girls to be more safe. But they are more interested by money from taxes or over speed, rather than to do the safety job. Here is the World.
There are pimps. Organized crime is heavily involved in the German sex business. Romanian, Albanian mafia, Hells Angels, Turkish Gangs, they are all there. I don't fool myself but I really don't mind I still go to FKK.Yes, I'm of two minds of this.
I am aware that there is organized crime in this business. I also know some girls do ok on their own, judging by their lifestyles and short hours they keep.
I try not to go with the ones that I know are compelled. The other day I approached a very beautiful, popular girl that had poor posture, her shoulders around ears, it just seemed like she was exhausted.
She seemed friendly when I talked to her though, and I asked her who was that Seth Rogen-looking computer-nerd like guy she had been talking with for so long.
"Oh, that's just my manager," she said. I thought, "What does a girl like this in a business like this need a manager for?
And then I put the pieces together. Exhausted-looking, "manager" in the area. I soon made an excuse not to go with her.
Then I read on the board she takes a lot of health risks too. I couldn't help but imagine that kind of behavior might be a sort of "giving up" on your future.
It's tough to imagine. Are there any books or popular accounts of how girls like this get into the business? I think HB has said every story is different, but I'd be interested in reading, I do find it fascinating.
As Sirioja likes to say, if you spend like one hour at opening time or closing time seeing the girls being dropped off at work ... You see all the BMWs, Audis and Porsches spilling out girls ... ...Girls getting "dropped off" or "spilled out", never mind you're as likely to see them 1) drive their own cars 2) drive their own car giving a ride to one other working girl 3) emerge from a taxi.
You see all the BMWs, Audis and Porsches ...Really? Whom are they trying to impress with their second-hand BMWs. This is Germany not the Cameroons.
These girls give all their money they earn in the clubs fucking old and fat men to give to their lover-boys or their "protection".The myth of johns as "fat men" (yourself excluded of course), never mind that a cursory look at the clients in any FKK shows prostitutes clients are nothing but a unbiased cross-section of the male middle class.
Then you go to the downtown cafes that are frequented by the Romanians staying in Frankfurt and sit quietly having your meal or drinks and listen to the conversation when the fish bring in their stable of girls to be fed. So sorry to hear the obedience of the girls to their loverboys. So you see the pimps and their girls in "downtown cafes"? Mind you, not in convenience stores or pharmacies where they could do some useful shopping after a 12-hour shift at the FKK. I'm sure those cafes come complete with table soccer, pinball and jukebox. I can see it plainly. The girl pleads with her pimp for him to give her a dime out of her own money so that she can go to the jukebox and play her favorite song. The song is a romantic one and the pimp and the girl dance cheek-to-cheek. The girls thinks she is loved, she doesn't notice the evil grin on her pimp's face. Little does she know, poor thing, that he will beat her that night like he's done all previous nights, using that special beating technique pimps have of inflicting maximal pain without leaving any bruises for clients so see.
P.S. As a sign of good will I want to contribute to your story: did you notice those youngish guys doing chores in FKKs? They look far too muscular and far too East-European not to be the pimps everybody is looking for. They pretend to do work but they've come to monitor and discipline the girls, and to make sure the latter don't don't withhold any money. There!
Hessen Bub
05-19-16, 22:12
Could there be a crime wave in its early infancy with the relaxation of borders and incoming refugees from all over the place? No. Couldn't be.
HB.
Yes, I'm of two minds of this.
I am aware that there is organized crime in this business. I also know some girls do ok on their own, judging by their lifestyles and short hours they keep.
I try not to go with the ones that I know are compelled. The other day I approached a very beautiful, popular girl that had poor posture, her shoulders around ears, it just seemed like she was exhausted.
She seemed friendly when I talked to her though, and I asked her who was that Seth Rogen-looking computer-nerd like guy she had been talking with for so long..We all depend on something.
Some mentally depend on family if they fortunately have and work hard for them to earn money.
Some mentally depend on god and turn to some religion who kindly charge them money which they gain from prostitution. God do not charge that much compared to pimps, at least for most major religions, but sometimes I hear from girls that some priest request to have sex when they confess to them in private confession room.
Some mentally depend on pimps, who charge them most or all the money they earn from prostitution. Sometimes it is called Boyfriend or manager like all god above has different name.
For me as long as she looks good and service is there, I don't care because it just comes with territory.
Could there be a crime wave in its early infancy with the relaxation of borders and incoming refugees from all over the place? Time will tell. It wasn't as noticeable in 2009 or 2010. Still Germany is behind Paris and London in this regard due to liberalism of laws as I posted before. I was sad to hear the bad news below what the hell is happening someone please explain?Syrian refugees have nothing to do with brothels shit which is: pimps from many countries and hells. More risky job than controlling taxes, but not so difficult to clean this shit, controlling cars and phone IP, does a foreigner have to learn them the job? But they don't care much about poor girls safety, unfortunately.
In my country in the EU all the crime figures show that the indigenous population has a higher crime rate than incoming migrants.
If You didn t know this poor girl, her club name is not important. What is important for me, is I don t think she died alone, sleeping in her bed or falling from her bed and she was too young to die. But not the only one, some girls ran away from World, not because of lack of business, a top model moved to Sharks and had also problems at Sharks. I wish her to be better and to stay away from hells. I don t call albanians or bulgarians or romanians or some turkish or russians, BF, they just want money girls make and when girls are not able to make money anymore, they forget their big love.
Polizei is very efficient on autobahn to run after foreigners, so when they control a club, not only taxes to control, I think they know as well as me some tattoes talk, even some girls have these tattoes, they could also control phones and cars on parking, to clean the brothels pimps shit and help poor girls to be more safe. But they are more interested by money from taxes or over speed, rather than to do the safety job. Here is the World.I don't get it. FKK shark girl get killed? And they raid FKK Artemis saying Artemis is the evil club?
What is going on here with German police? Like [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of cologne station. German police always hit wrong target or close the eyes on the place where they should raid.
Hessen Bub
05-20-16, 15:24
I don't get it. FKK shark girl get killed? And they raid FKK Artemis saying Artemis is the evil club?
What is going on here with German police? Like xx of cologne station. German police always hit wrong target or close the eyes on the place where they should raid.Correct. You don't get it. Like so often. This happened outside the club, could have happened anywhere in Germany. Zero connection to Sharks.
You don't know nothing about German police, Cologne or the raids.
HB.
BadinSweet
05-20-16, 15:48
Just got back from a Germany trip, 6 nights, 5 visits to the club. I had a great time but not sure how you local can do this without getting into a "relationship" with the girls. If I live in Germany, I would be in so much trouble with the girls I have great connection with. How do you guys normally keep it simple and just strict to business only?
In my country in the EU all the crime figures show that the indigenous population has a higher crime rate than incoming migrants.In my country people born outside of Sweden are very much overrepresented when it comes to crimes, especially violent crimes.
Especially when it comes to immigrants from countries like Iraq, Iran, Morocco, Somalia and so on.
I had a great time but not sure how you local can do this without getting into a "relationship" with the girls. If I live in Germany, I would be in so much trouble with the girls I have great connection with. How do you guys normally keep it simple and just strict to business only?Usually very simple the girls take care that it keeps business only. LOL.
Hessen Bub
05-20-16, 16:43
If I live in Germany, I would be in so much trouble with the girls I have great connection with. How do you guys normally keep it simple and just strict to business only?Believe me, some guys are in deep deep trouble.
HB.
Believe me, some guys are in deep deep trouble.
HB.I hope that is not autobiographical.
Hessen Bub
05-20-16, 22:38
I hope that is not autobiographical.No. I wrote "are" a not "were". LOL.
HB.
You don't know nothing about German police, Cologne or the raids.
HB.Well I know that German police are not functioning LOL.
Look at cologne station mass [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). What was that? Police did nothing, but just watched.
Just got back from a Germany trip, 6 nights, 5 visits to the club. I had a great time but not sure how you local can do this without getting into a "relationship" with the girls. If I live in Germany, I would be in so much trouble with the girls I have great connection with. How do you guys normally keep it simple and just strict to business only?It is not wise idea to have relationship with prostitutes unless it is outside sexual meeting based on set fee. But one can do that in FKK.
However, if I live in Germany, I would go every weekend or every third day to FKK LOL. It surely is addictive because once upon a time, sex with young beauty was limited thing, but now it is unlimited thing after finding German FKK.
What a wonderful era and world we live in now!
Hessen Bub
05-21-16, 20:24
Well I know that German police are not functioning LOL.
Look at cologne. What was that? Police did nothing, but just watched.You been there?
HB.
Well I know that German police are not functioning LOL.
Look at cologne station mass ... What was that? Police did nothing, but just watched.Except there was no "mass reipe" at Cologne. Some groping, some stealing of smartphones, followed by much false reporting of smartphone theft by women. In fact worse groping happens at the Munich beer festival but women welcome it in that case, that's what many women go to the beer festival for, to get drunk and enjoy some old-fashioned male sexual behavior.
German police will investigate for months to find a driver who scratched your car every so slightly and failed to report the incident. Do you think they wouldn't want or be able to nail real [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) if they existed? The media hyped this to scapegoat the migrants and to emphasize female victimhood and male brutishness like they usually do.
Except there was no "mass reipe" at Cologne. Some groping, some stealing of smartphones, followed by much false reporting of smartphone theft by women. In fact worse groping happens at the Munich beer festival but women welcome it in that case, that's what many women go to the beer festival for, to get drunk and enjoy some old-fashioned male sexual behaviour.
German police will investigate for months to find a driver who scratched your car every so slightly and failed to report the incident. Do you think they wouldn't want or be able to nail real reipist if they existed? The media hyped this to scapegoat the migrants and to emplasize female victimhood and male brutishness like they usually do.I am going to beer festival now LOL.
You been there?
HB.No, you been there?
I saw Youtube footage of it, they did not do nothing effective to clear out the mass robbers and [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124).
I mean, no wonder why Germany are becoming less safer and safer. Public are so brainwashed by media with all this all for refugee campaign. Personally security for your own people first before accepting refugees.
Look what happened, can't you see that? Even Pimps, it is mostly non German.
Except there was no "mass reipe" at Cologne. Some groping, some stealing of smartphones, followed by much false reporting of smartphone theft by women. In fact worse groping happens at the Munich beer festival but women welcome it in that case, that's what many women go to the beer festival for, to get drunk and enjoy some old-fashioned male sexual behaviour.
German police will investigate for months to find a driver who scratched your car every so slightly and failed to report the incident. Do you think they wouldn't want or be able to nail real reipist if they existed? The media hyped this to scapegoat the migrants and to emplasize female victimhood and male brutishness like they usually do.Do not be brainwashed.
http://www.politico.eu/article/interior-ministry-wanted-to-erase-[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)-from-cologne-new-year-sex-attacks-police-report/
Except there was no "mass reipe" at Cologne. Some groping, some stealing of smartphones, followed by much false reporting of smartphone theft by women. In fact worse groping happens at the Munich beer festival but women welcome it in that case, that's what many women go to the beer festival for, to get drunk and enjoy some old-fashioned male sexual behaviour.
German police will investigate for months to find a driver who scratched your car every so slightly and failed to report the incident. Do you think they wouldn't want or be able to nail real reipist if they existed? The media hyped this to scapegoat the migrants and to emplasize female victimhood and male brutishness like they usually do.And it is not even in just cologne.
[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is everywhere now:
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-exchange-student-sexually-assaulted-in-vienna-.aspx?PageID=238&NID=98606&NewsCatID=351
It is this ignorance, brainwashed mentality like there was no [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) when there was make europe more dangerous place and less and less safe place.
It is better to take pre caution as these crimes are happening, they are not just inventing these stories.
What European nations done to middle east and African nations are coming back to Europe.
And European government, namely German fed pressuring police not to anything about [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) by refugees and even telling them to do not use word [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) actually managed to convince mass public of Germany to believe media just invented the stories about [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).
This is insane. I mean police did not move for three days after [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of cologne. It was actually some public who made noise about it, then media picked up, then finally police moved their ass after all evidence is gone after 72 hours from the mass [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) incidents.
Check, German fed even told police not to use word [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). It is crazy.
Cologne station is not FKK cologne station with entrance fee for free and you can have sex by force for free.
Believe me, some guys are in deep deep trouble.
HB.Some guys forget that there is money involved for girls to suck their dick.
Most importantly, some guys forget girls are the best actors and liars. That is how marriage was invented LOL.
Do not be brainwashed.
http://www.politico.eu/article/interior-ministry-wanted-to-erase-[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)-from-cologne-new-year-sex-attacks-police-report/I don't see where brainwashing comes in. The article pinpoints the problem. Quote: "That isn't [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). Get rid of it. Delete the report," the police officer claims the official said.
Mind you, don't misunderstand me, I would LOVE for the Syrian hordes of testosterone-laden hordes to teach western femihags a lesson for legislating against our hobby while inviting one million coran guys into the country. I would love it, I would love them to rampage & [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) & plunder but alas it didn't happen.
It seems you are keen to peddle a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theories are not supposed to be welcome on this forum from what I experienced with a recent post of mine regarding the new prostitution law. Or maybe they are in some cases, and in some cases not, you tell me.
What European nations done to middle east and African nations are coming back to Europe.Euh ... excuse me but I thought it was chiefly the US who were responsible for killing between 500 thousand and 1 million Irakis.
Hessen Bub
05-22-16, 18:15
Mr. Ho: If Germany is such a wild unsafe place: Stay home.
HB.
According to wikipedia she is 75% german and 25% hungarian. Her grandfather was just baltic born german. Even if he was born in estonia. You know, in the old days they called people what they were, and didnt used politically motivated terms as they do today where everyone and their mother can call themselves german after only living there for a year or two and obtaining a german passport, lol
Reminds me of a few incidents at artemis. Some girls ask a bunsh of arabs or africans where they come from, and the guys tell them 'Sweden'. Then the girls give them this stupid look and ask again 'No, really? Where do you come from?' And the guys allways gets set back a little saying something like this 'Well, we originally came from Africa (or Iraq), but we have all been told to say we are swedish now'. Then it goes 'Oh, right, so you are from Iraq'. And all the girls get in return is a mute 'yes'.
They allways seem to come from Sweden though. I think the Swedish social security system has to be the greatest single contributor to the entire FKK industry. LolSweden.
Yes,
I've been told by several girls at Artemis that there are plenty of "Swedes" there but all girls also point out that the "Swedes" are Turks or something. The ones I've seen and heard when there has been of the type that likely has a criminal record.
Mr. Ho: If Germany is such a wild unsafe place: Stay home.
HB.No I like FKK a lot, beside that I do like the cars. German Food and infrastructures OK, people friendly, but in most part good food are by immigrants.
Germany is not such a wild unsafe place, it is becoming less safe, do not play with word as usual.
I don't see where brainwashing comes in. The article pinpoints the problem. Quote: "That isn't reipe. Get rid of it. Delete the report," the police officer claims the official said.
Mind you, don't misunderstand me, I would LOVE for the Syrian hordes of testosterone-laden hordes to teach western femihags a lesson for legislating against our hobby while inviting one million coran-retarded guys into the country. I would LOVE it, I would love them to rampage & reipe & plunder but alas it didn't happen.
It seems you are keen to peddle a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theories are not supposed to be welcome on this forum from what I experienced with a recent post of mine regarding the new prostitution law. Or maybe they are in some cases, and in some cases not, you tell me.
Euh ... excuse me but I thought it was chiefly the US who were responsible for killing between 500 thousand and 1 million Irakis.It is USA and some EU nations who bombed and played with middle east for centuries. I mean do not just blame US, it is French, British etc etc too, not just recently, it was like this for centuries.
You do not have to study history, but do not pretend Europeans did not colonized many part of middle east. Why do you think they speak two languages in many part of middle east mainly French.
European forgot about this because they are the bully, but remember people who bully others forget after awhile, but those who got bullied remember forever. Remember that.
They are not terrorists for no reason, there is reason why they are doing this and white brutality in middle east for centuries is the main reason.
It did not began today and it is not just about recent wars in Iraq. It is bigger than that, but of course European forgot about all the brutal bullying they have done to many part of middle east.
You do not have to study history, but do not pretend Europeans did not colonized many part of middle east. Why do you think they speak two languages in many part of middle east mainly French.This is quite true for the African continent as well where people speak French, Portuguese, English, Afrikaans (derived from Dutch) and Arabic as well as many native tongues. Even Spanish in a few countries! An outcome of exploitative colonization no doubt. Germany came late to the "party" but did have some colonies in Africa too, including Namibia where German is still spoken in some regions of that country today.
This is quite true for the African continent as well where people speak French, Portuguese, English, Afrikaans (derived from Dutch) and Arabic as well as many native tongues. Even Spanish in a few countries! An outcome of exploitative colonization no doubt. Germany came late to the "party" but did have some colonies in Africa too, including Namibia where German is still spoken in some regions of that country today.American admit and justify their actions and difference is American try to move forward together like what happen to my nation and America, it was fantastic synergy affect and once a biggest enemies now good friends.
Europeans blame it all on American due to just recent few decades and Europeans forget about centuries of exploiting middle east and Africa.
Why do you think all these nations speak European languages on top of their own languages? It is not like they loved European languages, European forced them via torture, violence among other nasty things, but again remember this, those who bully, they forget, but those who got bullied never forget that they got bullied and those who bullied them.
Every time, I say truth, there are brainwashed masses that goes nuts.
Seriously, try to research ones self instead of swallowing what they make you swallow.
Blaming all on USA is completely wrong.
Europeans did not just finished in middle east and Africa, they went to south America too in name of god and raped millions, killed and tortured millions?
You blame USA for south American to speak Spanish? Or Brazilian to speak Portuguese? It is same story with many nations in middle east speaking French, some Africans nation to speak Portuguese etc etc.
The culture of bullying other nations is original culture of Europeans and not Americans. And to be honest Americans are more fair, europeans love to kill, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and torture and pretend it did not happened and talk humanity LOL.
Remember those who bully other forget, but those who got bullied remember for generations.
And guess what, it is not even my nations, I am not Africans or middle eastern, so just think what they think about these as them being victim for centuries.
That is why I said, revenge of former colonies. They run from their broken nations to nations who originally did that to their broken nations, they cause crimes, but compare to what Europeans did to them for centuries, what they do is so small timers.
Just do not twist the truth, it is not American who did worst to middle east and Africa, it is Europeans who did it for longer and began all this.
Only people you can do whatever sexual should be in FKK Artemis, sharks Oase etc. , not in FKK train stations.
Few [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) did happen in toilet etc in more hidden places and if you want to call that not [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) because those touching etc surface places like in main hall of train station, then it is twisting word, police should have made move.
And report was not out in media for three days. I mean is media that slow in Germany? You have slow internet communications or something in Germany? I do not think that was the reason why report was held for three days.
We do not live in free world as you may like to think. That is why I love FKK, it is so free. You can even walk butt naked and you do not even get arrested LOL!
If police raid FKK while I am there, I will walk nude with my ass wide open as that will be only time I will be able to go totally nude without getting arrested front of police LOL!
Hessen Bub
05-23-16, 10:33
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-exchange-student-sexually-assaulted-in-vienna-.aspx?PageID=238&NID=98606&NewsCatID=351Very reliable source indeed. I remember the Russian girl who was a witness to a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) (Lisa) that never happened. I'm not saying there's no crime committed by immigrants, but be careful what to take for real.
HB.
Some guys forget that there is money involved for girls to suck their dick.
Most importantly, some guys forget girls are the best actors and liars. That is how marriage was invented LOL.I know how this guy feels, but I'm also getting to know how the vets feel.
I've made a lot of FKK trips in the past five years, with increasing frequency, but I'm about ready to call it a day.
At first, I was dazzled by being in an environment where all these beautiful women were vying for my attention. And open to having sex with me.
Then I learned that the best sex was with the girls I had a connection with. But those girls were rare, and I would have to find a new one after about two years.
I went through about three of them before I learned how fleeting these relationships are. Luckily I wasn't in town often enough to get sucked in too deep.
I wasn't a viable sugar daddy, or the girls I chose strangely did not choose to take advantage of the situation.
Eventually, having spent enough time in these clubs, certain faces became familiar, and I realized this was just a workaday job for all these girls. An unusual and lucrative job, but still a job.
At the same time, the charm of having this forbidden fruit started to disappear, but at the same time, so did my usual post-FKK STI panic.
These girls are having sex with strangers multiple times a day, for years, and they're still around. Some of them I know as not-quite-friends, but more than complete strangers.
They're still here. This also underscored the workaday nature of the situation.
So now I'm close to where I started. Maybe I'll make a FKK visit once in awhile, but I'm thinking I should concentrate my energies on civilians.
I know how this guy feels, but I'm also getting to know how the vets feel.
I've made a lot of FKK trips in the past five years, with increasing frequency, but I'm about ready to call it a day.
At first, I was dazzled by being in an environment where all these beautiful women were vying for my attention. And open to having sex with me.
Then I learned that the best sex was with the girls I had a connection with. But those girls were rare, and I would have to find a new one after about two years.
I went through about three of them before I learned how fleeting these relationships are. Luckily I wasn't in town often enough to get sucked in too deep.
I wasn't a viable sugar daddy, or the girls I chose strangely did not choose to take advantage of the situation..Well put it this way, I do have some personal feelings to some of these girls, but it stops at some kind of friend level because I do have good relation to most girls, some I even have them on my facebook, so even I do not contact them outside FKK, they are kind of friend, but that where it stops.
A Girl told me, they can take quite extent with text, but they have hard time dealing with clients who are emotional bully and also just want to talk to girls in very strange way about their future etc. I even heard a story that someone ring her bell of the girls private apartment, she look through the door hole and it is a client from FKK.
It sounded like some strange stalkers things do goes on in FKK.
I like FKK girls, they are nice to me beside some Romanians (or Spanish or Italian as they fucking choose to call themselves), but friend who fuck in exchange for money is where my feeling stop and I do not get this exchange mixed up. I do respect some girls who added me to their personal fb list though because that is big trust, they do hide their friend lists though LOL.
Yeah some FKK girls are cool and I admire their courage to remain good character after so many negativities in their lives and especially in FKK.
Once one of my regular girls began to kind of cry a bit in room telling me her life story and what she originally wanted to become as a child. I had strange feeling fucking her in doggy position hard after that, but I still did it LOL we men are really evil lustful animal I thought about my self. LOL.
Very reliable source indeed. I remember the Russian girl who was a witness to a (Lisa) that never happened. I'm not saying there's no crime committed by immigrants, but be careful what to take for real.
HB.Lisa? The FKK girl? You believe in FKK girl as reliable information source and all these videos, reports all over the world by investigative journalists are fake? LOL.
I do not put trust in media at all, but I put more trust in media more than Lisa the FKK girl Mr HB LOL.
Do not trust FKK girl as source. I mean they even claim they are Spanish and Italian who speak Romanians LOL do I buy that info, no! LOL I buy their body though LOL.
UltraHappy
05-24-16, 01:09
We do not live in free world as you may like to think. That is why I love FKK, it is so free. You can even walk butt naked and you do not even get arrested LOL!
If police raid FKK while I am there, I will walk nude with my ass wide open as that will be only time I will be able to go totally nude without getting arrested front of police LOL!Haha! I'm totally going to do this if a Polizei control ever interrupts one of my FKK days. My towel is coming right off and I will proudly prance around in all my glory!
If they say anything, I will simply say, "Hey, I am in an FKK. This is the German tradition!" Hopefully, there will be some female officers there to witness me strutting my stuff. Unfortunately, given that nobody cares about nudity in Germany, I fear that all my prancing around naked will be for nothing as Germans generally aren't scandalized by such things.
In any case, like Mr. Ho, I will be able to say that I pranced around naked in front of the police.
I am sure they will appreciate it when I do a helicopter while making, "woo-woo-woo" sounds as I swing my little Ultrahappy 'round and 'round (http://goo.gl/jFQ8Jl).
Hi esteemed members of this website.
I will be in the Dusseldorf area Thursday and Friday in the middle of June. I am staying near FKK Oceans and will likely go there Thursday or Friday so the question is what place would you pick for the other place that is a must visit. I love the gazelle types as you might have read from some of my reports. I will have a car so getting around is not a problem with Dusseldorf as the home base.
Will post reports when I get back. Looking forward to your inputs!
Best,
Fred.
Haha! I'm totally going to do this if a Polizei control ever interrupts one of my FKK days. My towel is coming right off and I will proudly prance around in all my glory!
If they say anything, I will simply say, "Hey, I am in an FKK. This is the German tradition!" Hopefully, there will be some female officers there to witness me strutting my stuff. Unfortunately, given that nobody cares about nudity in Germany, I fear that all my prancing around naked will be for nothing as Germans generally aren't scandalized by such things.
In any case, like Mr. Ho, I will be able to say that I pranced around naked in front of the police.
I am sure they will appreciate it when I do a helicopter while making, "woo-woo-woo" sounds as I swing my little Ultrahappy 'round and 'round (http://goo.gl/jFQ8Jl).I mean this will be only chance you can be nude right in front of polizei officers especially the female one.
My towel will be dropped off and I will bend over to pick the towel up and show her my anal, then I will fall trying to pick up the towel and I will be upside down on floor with my anal pointing up to the sky with my big fall trying to pick up the towel.
But once, when I was university, I was fucking my Ukrainian girl friend and since it was so loud, neighbor thought it is domestic violence. Then called cops, when door bell rang, and she opened door, police stormed right in and I was nude and told not to move, so I was there nude LOL.
There were three cops and one was female and she was quite good looking LOL, I wanted to have erection front of her, but my dick did not work as I was astonished with what just happened.
So I had good opportunity to be nude right in police legally before. But for FKK raid, I am ready to pick my towel I dropped on floor and fall in attempt to do so, and I will be nude, my leg wide open on floor showing my ass hole to female police officer LOL.
I teach incompetent German police how to deal with The [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of Cologne station with my anal pointing up to sky of FKK LOL!
Seriously, they do nothing at [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of Cologne station and they send 900 cops to artemis, next to time to engrave my anal to female officers brain during her dinner time LOL.
I show them how Hentai we can be at German FKK! LOL.
United colors of Hentai at German FKK! LOL.
PussyLiccker
05-24-16, 05:20
Some club recommendations: GoldenTime, LivingRoom, Acapulco, Samya, and YinYang. Avoid YY on the weekend. GT LU is better toward the weekend, but it will be busier as well. It's best to arrive at GT early in the day (the club gets going early). If you ask the front desk, GT will give you 25 Euros off discount entry card for LR if you decide to check it out on the same day.
Check the websites for entry prices. Session pricing is 50 Euros per half HR except Aca (40 Euros) and Samya with 75 per HR (50 first half + 25 second half). Extras are 25 CIM, 50 Anal.
Well put it this way, I do have some personal feelings to some of these girls, but it stops at some kind of friend level because I do have good relation to most girls, some I even have them on my facebook, so even I do not contact them outside FKK, they are kind of friend, but that where it stops.
A Girl told me, they can take quite extent with text, but they have hard time dealing with clients who are emotional bully and also just want to talk to girls in very strange way about their future etc. I even heard a story that someone ring her bell of the girls private apartment, she look through the door hole and it is a client from FKK.
It sounded like some strange stalkers things do goes on in FKK.
I like FKK girls, they are nice to me beside some Romanians (or Spanish or Italian as they fucking choose to call themselves), but friend who fuck in exchange for money is where my feeling stop and I do not get this exchange mixed up. I do respect some girls who added me to their personal fb list though because that is big trust, they do hide their friend lists though LOL.
Yeah some FKK girls are cool and I admire their courage to remain good character after so many negativities in their lives and especially in FKK.
Once one of my regular girls began to kind of cry a bit in room telling me her life story and what she originally wanted to become as a child. I had strange feeling fucking her in doggy position hard after that, but I still did it LOL we men are really evil lustful animal I thought about my self. LOL.Thanks. It sounds like you have some experience with these FKK girls outside of their identities in the club. I'm always interested in their backstories. Can you say if most of the girls you spoke to got into this business as a way to make money, or were tricked into it through a gang, employment scam, or loverboy?
For me, of the 70 or so women I've been with, I'd say three had believable "I'm trying to make money" stories, about five I'd assume were conscripted by gangs or loverboys, and five were from poorer countries leveraging the cost of living in Germany versus where they came from (which doesn't exclude being conscripted or trying to make money for themselves.) The 50+ remainder I don't know enough about to say.
Thanks. It sounds like you have some experience with these FKK girls outside of their identities in the club. I'm always interested in their backstories. Can you say if most of the girls you spoke to got into this business as a way to make money, or were tricked into it through a gang, employment scam, or loverboy?
For me, of the 70 or so women I've been with, I'd say three had believable "I'm trying to make money" stories, about five I'd assume were conscripted by gangs or loverboys, and five were from poorer countries leveraging the cost of living in Germany versus where they came from (which doesn't exclude being conscripted or trying to make money for themselves.) The 50+ remainder I don't know enough about to say.I am fly in monger, so I am not the one with most experience, but I do get along with some of the girls as I repeat the same set of girls due to my strong tendency in taste, so some of them open up. I treat them nice and I am rather guy with humor that some hate me for, but some loves.
With my personal experience, all girls have some kind of problem in life that lead to their need for money, some lives in poor area in developing countries, a lot of time they do not get along with their family, so no money support or some of them are doing it for their family because what the family do for living cannot make money for all 4 seasons etc. Like wine making, farming etc. Also some claim they do it for university fee, but hmmm that sound bit fishy, but maybe true who knows.
What I can say is that personally I never met girls who are tricked into or seems like are in total brutal condition to work in FKK like some of the guys says some girls are. I like model or teen type girls and I rarely go with Romanian or even Bulgarians.
As for pimping, without going into details, these let say tattoo girls with name of pimp are happy to work with pimps as apparently pimps helps them. I hear this from not only one or two girls but few. How that works I do not know.
I never met total bad personality girls at FKK, all the girls I met at FKK are more or less nice or some are real nice and sweet once they open up, but most of times, for first few sessions, they treat me coldly and then after while they become really nice and sweet and none of them asked me for some money other than set fee, sometimes I pay up a bit to do more hardcore thing, just a little like 20 euro more, but what I am saying is that I find all FKK girls very correct and straight up and actually very pure girls once they open up, I do not know for Romanians, I do not really go with them, when I do I fuck them for 30 min, and then I am out of the room, rarely not longer or extra, though I did meet some nice Romanians too, but mostly they gang up and provide lousy service and they claim to be Spanish and Italians LOL.
Hessen Bub
05-24-16, 12:53
Lisa? The FKK girl? You believe in FKK girl as reliable information source and all these videos, reports all over the world by investigative journalists are fake? LOL.
I do not put trust in media at all, but I put more trust in media more than Lisa the FKK girl Mr HB LOL.Again you got it all wrong. On the media there were reports about a Russian girl raped in Germany and it turned out the witness they had on Russian TV was an actor paid by the TV station. The whole story had nothing to do with FKK and I am not taking (all) FKK girls as reliable sources.
HB.
Again you got it all wrong. On the media there were reports about a Russian girl raped in Germany and it turned out the witness they had on Russian TV was an actor paid by the TV station. The whole story had nothing to do with FKK and I am not taking (all) FKK girls as reliable sources.
HB.Again you are all wrong Mr Hessen Bub, look Lisa incident was in Berlin, not in Cologne. [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of Berlin did not happen, that happened after second world war, that was bigger than one in cologne. [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of Berlin was in 1945, that lasted in mass amount for three to four days, exatct duration is questionable. This was wiped out mostly from history as both Germany and Japan lost, so of course we were all bad and they are all good.
[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of cologne station was last new year and Lisa has nothing to do with it as that was in Berlin. I follow these news very carefully checking youtube videos, media in few different languages, their sponsors behind media, their intentions, listening to people, talk to friend in Germany etc etc.
[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of Cologne station happened not on surface places like in main hall and outside, in surface area was touching / groping area, then they took few girls to hidden places like toilet and police refused to help them, even after they tried to calm the incident by not admitting for 3 days and media could not report it for three days, but there are good journalists and public who fought to leak the truth what happened. Don't you have common sense my Hessen bub? I mean that big scale incident and it was not on front page of media for three days? Use your common sense and think.
Again Lisa the russian girl was in Berlin and incident called [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of cologne station has nothing to do with it, just for the record you know that cologne and Berlin is different city and they are quite far apart.
The problem is there are Germans who cannot think for themselves and just believe what government want you to believe, and people like you unless you begin to think for yourself make Germany less safer nations because you believe in rainbow and sunshine world where what you hear and read are all true.
Get your fact straight, Lisa was Berlin incident, and the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of cologne station did happen as much you like to think these bandits are all good people who came to Germany to do good.
I mean you want good immigrant, get Asians, they usually do not cause problem and work hard and pay their taxes, even that my nation do not accept as we are notorious for not accepting refugees or most immigrants as we know by looking at Europe incidents carefully what happens and we do not believe in these leftist idiots who stood in train station with stupid flag saying welcome to Germany etc LOL.
Population pyramid problem, do not worry Mr Hessen bub, both German and my nation is smart ass, we got technology, Germany went for not quality mass immigration for your own destruction, we choose those who are smart who contribute like indians who do not [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) people and good at mathematics, so what we are going for to solve decrease in poppulation is robot because robot is better worker than immigrant, robot is cheaper to maintain, lift up whole high tech industry level, robot do not complain, robot do not [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), robot has not labor law, you can punch and kick robot, it is ok, robot is fantastic workers comparison to refugees.
Anyways get your fact straight, Lisa incident was in Berlin, not in Cologne. Berlin far from Cologne and is different city. And also [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of Berlin happened, but in 1945, and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of cologne station happened in between 2015-2016, there were few other similar report of similar event took place other cities in Germany too, but I could not dig properly as they hide it.
It is very simple. You went for bad quality human as your work resources, my nation went to robot, we are progressing fast and now our robot can run and even kind of jog and walk up the stairs, it is growing fast, with your nation, you choose to close eyes on what bad work force do and they can even [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) girls and get away as long as you do it in mass scale. So my suggestion to refugees is to get together because once you gang up, Germans begin to get scared and close the eyes to evil things that they do. Not in my nations and it is OK, we limit our refugees very strongly because we got fantastic robots that growing fast and sky is limit.
I am fly in monger, so I am not the one with most experience, but I do get along with some of the girls as I repeat the same set of girls due to my strong tendency in taste, so some of them open up. I treat them nice and I am rather guy with humor that some hate me for, but some loves.
With my personal experience, all girls have some kind of problem in life that lead to their need for money, some lives in poor area in developing countries, a lot of time they do not get along with their family, so no money support or some of them are doing it for their family because what the family do for living cannot make money for all 4 seasons etc. Like wine making, farming etc. Also some claim they do it for university fee, but hmmm that sound bit fishy, but maybe true who knows.
What I can say is that personally I never met girls who are tricked into or seems like are in total brutal condition to work in FKK like some of the guys says some girls are. I like model or teen type girls and I rarely go with Romanian or even Bulgarians.
As for pimping, without going into details, these let say tattoo girls with name of pimp are happy to work with pimps as apparently pimps helps them. I hear this from not only one or two girls but few. How that works I do not know.
I never met total bad personality girls at FKK, all the girls I met at FKK are more or less nice or some are real nice and sweet once they open up, but most of times, for first few sessions, they treat me coldly and then after while they become really nice and sweet and none of them asked me for some money other than set fee, sometimes I pay up a bit to do more hardcore thing, just a little like 20 euro more, but what I am saying is that I find all FKK girls very correct and straight up and actually very pure girls once they open up, I do not know for Romanians, I do not really go with them, when I do I fuck them for 30 min, and then I am out of the room, rarely not longer or extra, though I did meet some nice Romanians too, but mostly they gang up and provide lousy service and they claim to be Spanish and Italians LOL.Thanks, yes, it sounds like your situation is pretty similar to mine. I had not thought about seasonal work, but that makes sense. One of my faves is German and you would think she wouldn't be as poor as the Romanians, but she did mention a farming background. Another German fave really liked girls, so I had a suspicion that pressure from her family might have led her to this line of work.
Yes, I don't think you'll totally brutal conditions for the girls in the FKKs. It's never as simple as you might see in the movies, but I have no doubt there is some ugliness involved. I can understand how some girls are happy to work with pimps, it's similar to how they can be duped by loverboys. Or for that matter, how some FKK-goers can be duped by those girls to hand over more than 50 E at a time. It's cruel, but we all do it willingly and have some hand in our own demise.
Indeed, one of the pleasures of FKKs is how correct and straight up everything is. In many places, paying for sex is considered such a lowly thing. By not only the girls, but all the support staff such as the bartender and the bouncer. That they feel completely justified in ripping you off. For these reasons, I have no problem spending a little more than the bare minimum in FKKs.
Thanks, yes, it sounds like your situation is pretty similar to mine. I had not thought about seasonal work, but that makes sense. One of my faves is German and you would think she wouldn't be as poor as the Romanians, but she did mention a farming background. Another German fave really liked girls, so I had a suspicion that pressure from her family might have led her to this line of work.
Yes, I don't think you'll totally brutal conditions for the girls in the FKKs. It's never as simple as you might see in the movies, but I have no doubt there is some ugliness involved. I can understand how some girls are happy to work with pimps, it's similar to how they can be duped by loverboys. Or for that matter, how some FKK-goers can be duped by those girls to hand over more than 50 E at a time. It's cruel, but we all do it willingly and have some hand in our own demise.
Indeed, one of the pleasures of FKKs is how correct and straight up everything is. In many places, paying for sex is considered such a lowly thing. By not only the girls, but all the support staff such as the bartender and the bouncer. That they feel completely justified in ripping you off. For these reasons, I have no problem spending a little more than the bare minimum in FKKs.Another thing I noticed is that they live by themselves free from parent and they do not have parental support financially, so they need money, but they also like stylish life style like good enough car like BMW or Audi or even Porsche, good design apartment etc and these things are expensive, so they work in FKK to support their living. I do not usually see very grim side of prostitution in FKK. Yet I often go with Germans, Hungarians etc. And I don't go with Bulgarian and Romanian a lot, so I do not know. But I have few girls on my FB and I accidentally found some other girls who are not on my FB friends, and they are from Romania and some I went to room with, by looking at those Romanians on FB pictures that I can see as they are not on my FB list, they seems to be not victim of brutality and live normal lives with money they earned in FKK. Yet I am not sure about those eastern European girls as I go more with Hungarians, Czech Germans etc.
One of pleasure is they are gone as wind and they come and go. I always enjoy the nostalgia feeling when I think of my past favorite girls who are now gone as wind, this for me is also another pleasure of FKK.
Hessen Bub
05-25-16, 09:16
Again you are all wrong Mr Hessen Bub, look Lisa incident was in Berlin, not in Cologne.Never said it happened in Cologne or was related. Re your post: Sorry, can't read all that scattered thoughts, none of it makes sense to me.
HB.
Mr Ho. You say Germans can't think think for themselves. What have all these wild statements got to do with pay sex?
While we're making wild statements I'll add one. The world would be a better place if there were more Germans. Discuss:)
As for Lisa. It was a product of the Russian news disinformation service, and totally fabricated.
PussyLiccker
05-25-16, 13:06
I never met total bad personality girls at FKK, all the girls I met at FKK are more or less nice or some are real nice and sweet once they open up, but most of times, for first few sessions, they treat me coldly and then after while they become really nice and sweet and none of them asked me for some money other than set fee, sometimes I pay up a bit to do more hardcore thing, just a little like 20 euro more, but what I am saying is that I find all FKK girls very correct and straight up and actually very pure girls once they open up, I do not know for Romanians, I do not really go with them, when I do I fuck them for 30 min, and then I am out of the room, rarely not longer or extra, though I did meet some nice Romanians too, but mostly they gang up and provide lousy service and they claim to be Spanish and Italians LOL.If it's at Artemis, I've mainly had low experiences with Romies there. Although, last visit the girl with the best attitude wasn't a Russian, or German, but Romanian, and then I met a Romanian that provided below avg experiences. So, Romies differ, and you'd have to figure them out like any other nationalities. If you just have prejudice build based on Romies picked at Artemis, or just small sampling, and just limit yourself based on handful of bad experiences it doesn't sound that reasonable to me given there are so many of them out there (not only Artemis). If your idea of Romies is based on Artemis, you should really check out many other clubs. As you know, Romies are present in a lot of other places. I've ran into a lot of memorable Romies clubbing around various places.
And by the way, if you are into young girls (who isn't? Currently Romies have the advantage in that in interms of selection.
Ideally, I'd like a good mix of nationalities in the clubs, but not like Artemis or Palaces where the non-Romy types are a lot older pro types.
Check out clubs like LR, you will have much higher odds of running into a better service providing Romies. Matter a fact, I had similar pre-notions of Romies until I hit NRW for the first time back in the days. I dunno if I'm the lucky one that runs into Romies that I consider a gems. There are many of them, so the chances are high still to run into a genuinely good provider. Germans are low in number, and there are many duds out there too. The odds are really club dependent as far as I'm concerned. Tourist rich places with more longer stayed Romies has the highest liklihood of filtering their services. Same goes for any large group of nationalities at a club with high percentage of less frequently visiting, and less experienced tourists.
I'd recommend you check out other places, and then let me know if your experiences changes. Try a couple large scale tours in various regions(various clubs), and venue types.
Mr Ho. You say Germans can't think think for themselves. What have all these wild statements got to do with pay sex?
While we're making wild statements I'll add one. The world would be a better place if there were more Germans. Discuss:)
As for Lisa. It was a product of the Russian news disinformation service, and totally fabricated.That is the point I was making about Lisa that Hessen bub brought it up to cancel out Cologne incident. I was talking about Cologne incident, not Berlin.
As for Germans, world would be better place if there are more Germans? Well we thought like that during WW2 and I am glad both nations got rich, but I do not think that single race domination make the world better place, but we did better than most nations after WW2, this I agree.
If it's at Artemis, I've mainly had low experiences with Romies there. Although, last visit the girl with the best attitude wasn't a Russian, or German, but Romanian, and then I met a Romanian that provided below avg experiences. So, Romies differ, and you'd have to figure them out like any other nationalities. If you just have prejudice build based on Romies picked at Artemis, or just small sampling, and just limit yourself based on handful of bad experiences it doesn't sound that reasonable to me given there are so many of them out there (not only Artemis). If your idea of Romies is based on Artemis, you should really check out many other clubs. As you know, Romies are present in a lot of other places. I've ran into a lot of memorable Romies clubbing around various places.
And by the way, if you are into young girls (who isn't? Currently Romies have the advantage in that in interms of selection.
Ideally, I'd like a good mix of nationalities in the clubs, but not like Artemis or Palaces where the non-Romy types are a lot older pro types..Me at Artemis and Oase, Ro were quite OK, not the best performance, but OK, it is at Palace you can forget it with Ro.
In general, my best session has been with mostly German or German speaking nations like Austrian. Also with Czech, I had promised sessions. I think this Germany, Austrian, Czech area girl tend to be more kinky, at least for my experiences.
It also to do with business structure too maybe. Meaning Ro most likely has some kind of organization who helped them to get to German FKK, so maybe such organization teach them how to carry out their business in FKK?
Where as German, Czech, Austrian girls, they tend to got themselves to FKK themselves, not all cases like some tattoos HA FKK girls, but I met few girls driving back to Prague after work and dropped me off at Charlotenberg, and she seemed to be on her own at least by looking at the car.
Mr Ho. I agree! Single race (or more appropriately, culture) domination is bad.Race and culture are not synonymous
BTW, I am non- German:)
So I'm thinking of visiting one or two nrw clubs in July that I haven't been to yet. On my list is pretty much the easy to reach clubs by public transport near Dusseldorf and Cologne: Dolce Vita, Living Room, Samya and Mondial. (Already crossed Magnum off my list).
So what are the pros and cons about these clubs? I was very interested in Living Room in the past, but recent reports have been a little more negative. Samya also seemed to have better reviews about a year ago. How is the line up now? Is Mondial a better pick in cologne?
And about what time does most girls in fkk's head on vacation? I suffer from short term memory loss from previous years here. Just recall august is a bad month...
StarletVoyager
05-27-16, 15:56
Please the question of helicopter displays in case of a FKK police raid is a matter of the upmost seriousness. For that reason I have put together a short description of the helicopter dick routine to be performed in such a situation. "A sexual display wherein a male gyrates his pelvis so that his flaccid penis whirls in a radial manner like the blades of a helicopter. Such a display is often used to impress a female or females before a sexual act or ward off intruding police in an unannounced FKK razia raid. " LOL landing frankfurt 13/6.
Please the question of helicopter displays in case of a FKK police raid is a matter of the upmost seriousness. For that reason I have put together a short description of the helicopter dick routine to be performed in such a situation. "A sexual display wherein a male gyrates his pelvis so that his flaccid penis whirls in a radial manner like the blades of a helicopter. Such a display is often used to impress a female or females before a sexual act or ward off intruding police in an unannounced FKK razia raid. " LOL landing frankfurt 13/6.Well at passport control, they ask me what the purpose of the entry to Germany? As standard question. I always reply FKK tourism, I hope all FKK tourists do this adding FKK before tourism at passport control, so that eventually, some amount of police would notice that FKK is actually contributing to German tourism and also helping some German citizen who work there or employed there or related to FKK financially LOL.
FKK is most important entities in Germany beside Porsche AG.
Good idea.We are minority of tourist, but we spend load of money at FKK, I spend about minimum 300 euro to max 700 euro for sessions per day and usually about 450 euro per day and I go one week to ten days per FKK trip, on top that entrance fee.
Plus hotel fee and I usually eat good lunch in town, plus the taxis, so it all add up and this is just me, there are guys who spend more, some less, but it all add up.
We mongering tourists tend to spend more than usual tourists and I do sometimes go to museum etc, though that is very rare LOL I still do though to kill some time in the morning before lunch when I am up early because I do not usually hit FKK till late afternoon like 4 pm.
700 e per night sounds a bit much, and 10 days in a row? You're mad. Sure it isn't better to split it up in 2 trips instead and go a bit more often? If then, it would sound like me. I spend 150-350e per night on sessions and stay for 2-5 nights at a time...
I usually run out of steam on day 3 or day 4 anyway unless I go easy the first two days. Which never happens. LoL. It goes like this normally:
1st day: 3 sessions keeping cool thinking I'm going to save my power.
2nd day: 5 sessions completely loosing it thinking I'm invincible.
3rd day: 4 sessions still thinking I'm invincible but feeling a bit tired on the last go.
4th day: 3 sessions wondering what the hell I was on about on day 2 and 3.
5th day: wondering why I'm still in germany...
700 e per night sounds a bit much, and 10 days in a row? You're mad. Sure it isn't better to split it up in 2 trips instead and go a bit more often? If then, it would sound like me. I spend 150-350e per night on sessions and stay for 2-5 nights at a time...
I'm usually run out of steam on day 3 or day 4 anyway unless I go easy the first two days. Which never happens. LolYeah, but around 700 euro is max night when I found stunners, and when I was younger and my penis can do 7 cum per day LOL.
Now. I can do 4 then 5th time is hard to get my dick hard all the way LOL.
Usually, I spend around 400 Euro excluding entrance fee.
I tried split the trip into two last November for first time and I even flew to Zurich in that 5 days trip. It was do-able and I might do that from now on.
But before my longest was 14 days straight FKK every day, it felt like my job that I pay LOL.
I used to love this feeling that I force myself to go to FKK to fuck, but now yeah. I might just do 5 days trip and do that few times per year.
However, I know some guys who reserve girl all night and pay almost one thousand. Or even more, girls tell me they mostly talk than sex. FKK has different use for different guys huh?
Hessen Bub
05-29-16, 08:48
Most of the money sex tourists spend goes to the girls, not to German economy. There's discussions about the cheapest hotels, cheapest transportation, how to walk to a club to save 10€ for a cab. And the guys at immigration couldn't care less.
HB.
Most of the money sex tourists spend goes to the girls, not to German economy. There's discussions about the cheapest hotels, cheapest transportation, how to walk to a club to save 10 for a cab. And the guys at immigration couldn't care less.
HB.The girls are paying tax and spending their money in Germany. I usually take a cab from the airport to the club and back, that's 100 euros when going to Oase. Cheap hotels or not, they are still spending money.
But you got it right that the immigration probably don't give a duck.
Member #4585
05-29-16, 10:18
Most of the money sex tourists spend goes to the girls, not to German economy. There's discussions about the cheapest hotels, cheapest transportation, how to walk to a club to save 10 for a cab. And the guys at immigration couldn't care less.I hear many girls say that they send via Western Union, regularly, 500€ a week back home to pay for family or the upkeep of their children. I guess when the girls make the car run back to Romania that a few more thousands are tucked down their panties when crossing through central and eastern Europe to the Black sea area.
With fees of 100€ a day plus taxes taking it to say 125-130 euro for the 5 days a week many girls may work it gives an idea what these girls have to make before they can also afford their cars (second hand) and shared apartments or be&BS where they stay then make to buy designer clothes and go on trips.
Most of the money sex tourists spend goes to the girls, not to German economy. There's discussions about the cheapest hotels, cheapest transportation, how to walk to a club to save 10 for a cab. And the guys at immigration couldn't care less.
HB.I go with mostly German citizen girls, so my money goes in to German society mostly.
I stay at 4 star usually not really because of price, but due to location (I like staying at Chrlottenberg in Berlin and for Frankfurt near HB due to exotic food I love by immigrants). Price change between for instance palace Berlin or Kimpensky Berlin and 4 stars are just matter of 200 euro or little more for 10 days trip using Expedia. Though I begin to think the few hundred euro can get me some more sex as this is mentality of monger LOL.
I only sleep at hotel during my stay and also cook some tolerated discriminized herbs, but I cannot lower it less than 4 stars because of sleep. I need sleep to fuck many time consecutively LOL.
Hotels are not expensive in Germany especially in Berlin, as long as you avoid deluxe 5 stars. Normal 5 stars are not pricey at all comparison to 4 stars, but location is right in center and not convenient for FKK and also Arabic / immigrants food that are delicious. I do eat German food in good pub, but once or twice per stay is enough for sausages and potato LOL.
Arab and Turkish and Greek and Russian food is way to go and it is hard to find those in center.
Member #4585
05-29-16, 10:27
There are times that I have received the handy phone numbers of girls. So we use WhatsApp to talk to the girls about life, stuff and meeting up. You see on WhatsApp her avatar which is usually a sexy picture of the girl. You exchange videos and pictures, usually of her being sexy or showing me her tits and ass. Then there is the usual the girls changes phone numbers, goes off line and disappears. I get the impression the number is defunct. The avatar picture disappears and WhatsApp says that no one has used that number in ages. So she has gone or she has changed the number and given me the new number.
I am usually lazy or lax with clearing these old numbers off my contact list. Then after a few weeks or even a longer time I find the number is active again on WhatsApp and there is surprisingly a new Avatar. Sometimes it is a young buff guy who looks really Romanian or sometimes its a normal German girl or Turkish German (judging by the Islamic style pictures) by the changing pictures I see on the WhatsApp Avatar. I have not written to the new "owner" asking if they are still such and such or know is such and such since it is clear the original FKK girl I was in contact with is not owning this number since I have her new number.
I did ask one Romanian girl where this happened who has now moved to Spain that on her old German number is a young German guy. She said that number no longer works and has no idea who the picture of the German guy is. I contact the Romanian girl in Spain on her Spanish and Romanian numbers which she responds quickly on.
Does anyone know if German handy numbers are re-cycled by German telecommunications companies possibly explaining the new owners of the number or is the girls passing their old numbers onto other people?
Member #4585
05-29-16, 10:30
700 e per night sounds a bit much, and 10 days in a row? You're mad. Sure it isn't better to split it up in 2 trips instead and go a bit more often? If then, it would sound like me. I spend 150-350e per night on sessions and stay for 2-5 nights at a time...
I usually run out of steam on day 3 or day 4 anyway unless I go easy the first two days. Which never happens. LoL. It goes like this normally:
1st day: 3 sessions keeping cool thinking I'm going to save my power.
2nd day: 5 sessions completely loosing it thinking I'm invincible.
3rd day: 4 sessions still thinking I'm invincible but feeling a bit tired on the last go.
4th day: 3 sessions wondering what the hell I was on about on day 2 and 3.
5th day: wondering why I'm still in germany...700 a day is easy to do and I have been there many times and even more.
As for 15 sessions and each one coming at the end over 4 days, well those days are gone for me.
All I can do is salute the man and men that can achieve this wondrous sum.
I hear many girls say that they send via Western Union, regularly, 500 a week back home to pay for family or the upkeep of their children. I guess when the girls make the car run back to Romania that a few more thousands are tucked down their panties when crossing through central and eastern Europe to the Black sea area.
With fees of 100 a day plus taxes taking it to say 125-130 euro for the 5 days a week many girls may work it gives an idea what these girls have to make before they can also afford their cars (second hand) and shared apartments or be&BS where they stay then make to buy designer clothes and go on trips.I have been to Romania before, but 500 euro per week is a lot of money to send back home to sustain their family in Romania. It was very cheap in Romania, I hope family is saving instead of spending.
Good girl earn about 1000 euro per day in FKK, but that is quite rare.
700 a day is easy to do and I have been there many times and even more.
As for 15 sessions and each one coming at the end over 4 days, well those days are gone for me.
All I can do is salute the man and men that can achieve this wondrous sum.I want to get back to my days I can do seven times, how? I am trying to figure it out without medicine. Maybe some supplements would help.
It was just in 2010 and 2011 and 2012 I can do 7 rooms per day or maybe bit more quite easily, now I have difficulty after three or four rooms.
Hessen Bub
05-29-16, 14:31
Does anyone know if German handy numbers are re-cycled by German telecommunications companies possibly explaining the new owners of the number or is the girls passing their old numbers onto other people?Yep. 30 days after end of contract. Or if inactive too long if it is prepaid.
HB.
Member #4585
05-29-16, 15:51
Yep. 30 days after end of contract. Or if inactive too long if it is prepaid.
HB.Thank you Hessen Bub, that explains it then. Nothing nefarious or sinister is going on which is what I suspected.
As for 15 sessions and each one coming at the end over 4 days, well those days are gone for me.
All I can do is salute the man and men that can achieve this wondrous sum.When I was younger, I could almost double that, and I can still do 15 in 3 days, but then I'm dry for a few days. Depends more on the mind than anything else. But you also need to avoid partners that gives of negative impulses.
Some exersise doesnt hurt either to keep up the testosterone level... and no wanking or sex for some days prior to starting...
Can still do 6 or maybe even 7 in a day, but then I need the right preparation. Like a top athleete prepares for a fight. Lol.
Supplements like Tongkat Ali and BTT have helped me a year or two ago, and it does have some effect. But now I think I am allergic to it. And you never know what you get when ordering online. Perhaps my last shipment was bad. So stopped that now, but can still do well. BTT is probably more important than TA if you want to enjoy. So perhaps I'll try BTT only next time... doesnt add stamina like TA, just extends orgasm...
When I was younger, I could almost double that, and I can still do 15 in 3 days, but then I'm dry for a few days. Depends more on the mind than anything else. But you also need to avoid partners that gives of negative impulses.
Some exersise doesnt hurt either to keep up the testosterone level... and no wanking or sex for some days prior to starting...
Can still do 6 or maybe even 7 in a day, but then I need the right preparation. Like a top athleete prepares for a fight. Lol.
Supplements like Tongkat Ali and BTT have helped me a year or two ago, and it does have some effect. But now I think I am allergic to it. And you never know what you get when ordering online. Perhaps my last shipment was bad. So stopped that now, but can still do well. BTT is probably more important than TA if you want to enjoy. So perhaps I'll try BTT only next time... doesnt add stamina like TA, just extends orgasm...BTT is like steroid man. It says natural steroidal compound, but what is natural steroidal?
I think exercise can keep and I can still do 4 times and arguably 5 times per day. 3 sessions are healthy per day for me.
What I realize strangely is that, I recently began drinking milk after exercise (jogging or some light weight) and it helps my libido and election. I wonder why mild helped, is it because of amino acids that are in mild together with protein?
Milk also helped me to sleep better with mild morning erection once again.
The winner to me is Hessen. I had to satisfy my curiosity recently by visiting the clubs in NRW but to me Hessen is better, the girls are hotter, there's more of them and I prefer the FKK 'model'. I mush prefer seeing girls walking around totally naked. I think I'd only go back to NRW cubs if I happened to be visiting on business, other than that if it's a trip to Germany just for FKK's then Frankfurt here I come.
Mr Ho: I dunno. Its still just a herb. So that's where the 'natural' comes in. Not that I'm a biologist, but I one ate a blueberry. It grows in nature too I think.
Abox: so which nrw clubs did you visit? As there are so many of them, can you really generalise that much?
Mr Ho: I dunno. Its still just a herb. So that's where the 'natural' comes in. Not that I'm a biologist, but I one ate a blueberry. It grows in nature too I think.
Abox: so which nrw clubs did you visit? As there are so many of them, can you really generalise that much?I missed that feeling of doing 7 rooms per day every day and trying to push further LOL.
I will be back, I am trying to figure out the solution.
Mr Ho: I dunno. Its still just a herb. So that's where the 'natural' comes in. Not that I'm a biologist, but I one ate a blueberry. It grows in nature too I think.
Abox: so which nrw clubs did you visit? As there are so many of them, can you really generalise that much?Decarb the herb and make it edible and enjoy real taste of sex! LOL.
I missed that feeling of doing 7 rooms per day every day and trying to push further LOL.
I will be back, I am trying to figure out the solution.Exercise is the most important factor. As its all about testosterone. But you can also eat all the various aphrodisiacs. TA / BTT are essentially just strong aphrodisiacs, but there are others too. Oysters, chili pepper, avocado, tomato, chocolate, bananas watermelon, pine nuts, olive oil, figs, strawberries, pomegranate, cherries, s pumpkin seeds, asparagus, whipped cream etc.
Hessen Bub
05-30-16, 17:32
Fatherbull and Sonbull are standing on a hill.
They looked down in a valley, where they saw a great flock of young crispy cows.
Sonbull says to Fatherbull: Hey daddy bull, let's run down and fuck one of them.
Oh son, oh son, you bloody bastard, says Fatherbull, let's walk down and fuck them all.
Two by two or three by three, visiting every week, easy going. LOL.
HB.
Hi Pistons,
I did GT, YY, LR, Babylon, Samya, Heaven 7 & Oceans. Enough for me to make a judgement?
Mr Ho: I dunno. Its still just a herb. So that's where the 'natural' comes in. Not that I'm a biologist, but I one ate a blueberry. It grows in nature too I think.
Abox: so which nrw clubs did you visit? As there are so many of them, can you really generalise that much?
Fatherbull and Sonbull are standing on a hill.
They looked down in a valley, where they saw a great flock of young crispy cows.
Sonbull says to Fatherbull: Hey daddy bull, let's run down and fuck one of them.
Oh son, oh son, you bloody bastard, says Fatherbull, let's walk down and fuck them all.
Two by two or three by three, visiting every week, easy going. LOL.
HB.So did son / fatherbull manage to fuck them all in the end? Because there are always new flock of young crispy cows coming from other areas to drink water in the valley, LOL.
Fatherbull and Sonbull are standing on a hill.
They looked down in a valley, where they saw a great flock of young crispy cows.
Sonbull says to Fatherbull: Hey daddy bull, let's run down and fuck one of them.
Oh son, oh son, you bloody bastard, says Fatherbull, let's walk down and fuck them all.
Two by two or three by three, visiting every week, easy going. LOL.
HB.Well, some animals fuck cows, others fuck gazelles. Bulls are slow and show off their blob to the animals living near, while cheetah's explode in a quick assault from a far distance.
Hessen Bub
05-30-16, 21:30
gaselles.What's that? Gas Elles? Gas girls? Girls made of gas or having issues with body winds?
HB.
What's that? Gas Elles? Gas girls? Girls made of gas or having issues with body winds?
HB.Do you edit posts? I never edit mine.
Fatherbull and Sonbull are standing on a hill.
They looked down in a valley, where they saw a great flock of young crispy cows.
Sonbull says to Fatherbull: Hey daddy bull, let's run down and fuck one of them.
Oh son, oh son, you bloody bastard, says Fatherbull, let's walk down and fuck them all.
Two by two or three by three, visiting every week, easy going. LOL.
HB.I always think of that joke whenever I visit a club.
Exersise is the most important factor. As its all about testosterone. But you can also eat all the various aprodisiacs. TA / BTT are essentially just strong aprodisiacs, but there are others too. Oysters, chili pepper, avocado, tomato, chocolate, bananas watermelon, pine nuts, olive oil, figs, strawberries, pomegranate, cherrie, s pumkin seeds, asparagus, whipped cream etc.For me, milk works to certain extent, maybe it is because of amino acids that are in milk. It is contradiction as milk is not supposed to support your sexual health as far as I know, but you also mentioned whipped cream for some reason, which is actually milk sourced, so there must be some fundamental reason why milk works for me.
there must be some fundamental reason why milk works for me.Perhaps you have a milk fetish? Do you ask the girls too 'got milk? Hehe.
Perhaps you have a milk fetish? Do you ask the girls too 'got milk? Hehe.Actually. Other way round once LOL As an up sell strategy, a girl kept on asking me I want your milk in my mouth I want to drink your milk and she kept on saying that through out the session, which was a mood breaker LOL.
I did not buy into her milk up sell LOL Good memory of Artemis in golden era. Now there are few alarming report about Artemis, but I probably take some risk and go and check it out for myself.
Thanks to those of you who responded to my previous post on best clubs in the NRW / Duesseldorf area. Getting a little more specific now, which clubs would be best during the day / afternoon? Specifically for a Thursday or Friday.
Thanks,
FZ.
Member #4585
05-31-16, 07:57
What's that? Gas Elles? Gas girls? Girls made of gas or having issues with body winds?
HB.I think Pistons meant to write Gazelles as in slim figured girls not the four legged African animal variety.
Hessen Bub
05-31-16, 09:56
I think Pistons meant to write Gazelles as in slim figured girls not the four legged African animal variety.Thanks, but I know what he meant to write. I was just making fun of him as he wrote "Blob" instead of "Bub" making fun of me.
HB.
Thanks, but I know what he meant to write. I was just making fun of him as he wrote "Blob" instead of "Bub" making fun of me.
HB.Life is more fun that way. Serious is dull.
Wolvenvacht
05-31-16, 11:41
Exersise is the most important factor. As its all about testosterone. But you can also eat all the various aprodisiacs. TA / BTT are essentially just strong aprodisiacs, but there are others too. Oysters, chili pepper, avocado, tomato, chocolate, bananas watermelon, pine nuts, olive oil, figs, strawberries, pomegranate, cherrie, s pumkin seeds, asparagus, whipped cream etc.Those foods work if you believe they work. It is a pure placebo effect as none of these foods have been proven to contain any substances that enhance your libido or contain such substances in too low quantities to have any effects.
Those foods work if you believe they work. It is a pure placebo effect as none of these foods have been proven to contain any substances that enhance your libido or contain such substances in too low quantities to have any effects.So what we men supposed to do as we age older? LOL.
Beside Viagra, ciaris and related medicines, there are no alternative?
How about DHEA?
So what we men supposed to do as we age older? LOL.You know what they say.
There is another way. But don't ask me. Because I'm not gay.
LOL.
You know what they say.
There is another way.
But don't ask me.
Because I'm not gay.
LOL.Again, vice versa, with this one, I got asked this many times by girls in FKK as part of their up sell strategy about putting her finger in my ass for 50 euro extra LOL.
My reply was that I do not mind her tongue in my ass, but not finger LOL.
I figure something out as I want my 7 rooms per day every day for like around 10 days like it once used to be just few years ago LOL.
The thing is I do not have ED, but I think it is more to do with because of intense FKK experiences and doing it too much made my hurdle higher in sex department, meaning I began to only react to hardcore thing as FKK make you this way if you do it too much consecutively. It is good I do not live in Germany as I see myself going to FKK every three days or more and I know that I will try hard to stop my self going there on daily basis like it is some kind of cross road every day as one way is to FKK, one way is to go home LOL.
FKK is dangerous place if one want to lead so called normal life as it definitely open door to new world order to your life and not the order set by society.
What's the best route? One option is to drive past Stuttgart and then head north, possibly swing by FKK Point and Piratespark and then continue onto Sharks later if the lineups suck. Another option is to drive straight north up the 9 and then grab the 3 into Frankfurt and visit either Mainhattan or Sharks. Taking 9 to the 6 and then the 5 north is also a possible route. Three routes, google gives me the same time driving time guess when I key in that I'm driving on a Sunday morning. What's the best option?
What's the best route? [from Munich to Frankfurt]
The traveling salesman problem (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travelling_salesman_problem#/media/File:Bruteforce.gif) has become the traveling FKK monger's problem.
Too much roadwork on the A9 (Munich-Nuernberg-Frankfurt) + nothing to do in between.
A8 Motorway between Munich and Stuttgart with much traffic but mostly roadwork-free stretches. In Stuttgart possible stopover at Paradise or Sakura. Paradise a stone's throw from the A8 but maybe pretty dead too early on Sunday. Sakura the best choice to do some wellness and have a nap before driving on.
Hardly any roadwork between Stuttgart and Frankfurt via the A6 and no that much traffic either.
If you drive past Karlsruhe (beware the stretch between Stuttgart and Karlsruhe has many roadworks) why not stop at Flamingo Island rather than at Point or Pirates (same owner as Flamingo but both smaller than Flamingo).
I always try to avoid driving between 5 and 7 pm or between 7 and 9 on weekdays but on a Sunday it doesn't matter.
I guess Easter effect not exist anymore in Germany but what about Summer effect. When do you think it will start? I am planning to come in the first week of July.
I don't think it matters on a Sunday without much traffic. 9 and 3 looks shortest if you go for Oase or Palace. Maybe past Stuttgart if you are going for sharks?
If you drive past Karlsruhe (beware the stretch between Stuttgart and Karlsruhe has many roadworks) why not stop at Flamingo Island rather than at Point or Pirates (same owner as Flamingo but both smaller than Flamingo).
.Flamingo is an option. If I don't make a run for Frankfurt right off the bat I am tempted to try out both Point and Pirates on Monday, their combined entrance is 44 euro's on Mondays. Flamingo also has a 45 euro happy hour on sundays as well.
Again, vice versa, with this one, I got asked this many times by girls in FKK as part of their up sell strategy about putting her finger in my ass for 50 euro extra LOL.
My reply was that I do not mind her tongue in my ass, but not finger LOL.
I figure something out as I want my 7 rooms per day every day for like around 10 days like it once used to be just few years ago LOL.
The thing is I do not have ED, but I think it is more to do with because of intense FKK experiences and doing it too much made my hurdle higher in sex department, meaning I began to only react to hardcore thing as FKK make you this way if you do it too much consecutively. It is good I do not live in Germany as I see myself going to FKK every three days or more and I know that I will try hard to stop my self going there on daily basis like it is some kind of cross road every day as one way is to FKK, one way is to go home LOL.
FKK is dangerous place if one want to lead so called normal life as it definitely open door to new world order to your life and not the order set by society.I've heard this from a few of WGs, as well as some of the experienced FKK-goers. The bar keeps getting raised -- two girls, three girls, four girls. Increasingly risky sex, or you get into more transgressive stuff like bondage or [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117). Worst case I heard about at Artemis from another clubgoer, a local, that a client kidnapped a girl and kept her in his basement until the authorities intervened.
Worst case I heard about at Artemis from another clubgoer, a local, that a client kidnapped a girl and kept her in his basement until the authorities intervened.That is crazy. I hear from WG in Artemis that, one of the girl who live outside Artemis experienced intense stalking that she had to move, but it did not go far as what you heard, apparently the guy tracked down the apartment of the girl in Berlin and he kept on coming ringing bell, posting notes in post box and so on.
For me, it is not that, it is just that I can do 7 rooms per day because my dick was capable of this just few years ago, now I can only do about 4 or 5 rooms per day in FKK and usually I just do 3 room, so I just want capability of doing 7 room per day. Getting older. However, I will find solution for this beside medicines.
Mean while, in FKK, as far as sex goes, you experience it all on platter based on costs, so in my normal life I do not care too much chasing girls because I know I can get the same or better in FKK for cheaper cost and convenience. FKK and mongering put marriage out of the window for me because I simply cannot fuck same girl especially if that girl will age, which they all do.
I think, in this modern world now days, if man has money, then he should not marry if he is not into some religion or strong societal belief. The era we live in nowadays allow you to explore sexual freedom all the way with most beautiful girls with different skin colors etc as long as you have money. This freedom was only obtained at almost full force just recent years because before there were so much obstacles legally, culturally, societal etc to make men has bad sex life by limiting our access to sex with beautiful young girls, now with money and bit of knowledge, sex with most beautiful girls are becoming more and more possible around the globe. We just have to travel here and there.
[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and sexual assaults are like German trend that German public try to close their eyes or too ignorant to admit the truth and it happened again!
Less than a month after a damning report emerged that a high-ranking police officer has alleged that his seniors tried to strike the word [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) from an internal police report after the mass sexual assaults in Cologne over New Year, Germany is gripped in a new sexual assault scandal involving refugees. Eighteen German women have filed police complaints saying they were sexually assaulted at a musical festival in Darmstadt. Police arrested three refugees from Pakistan at the scene after three of the women immediately reported their attacks.
UltraHappy
06-02-16, 04:30
Worst case I heard about at Artemis from another clubgoer, a local, that a client kidnapped a girl and kept her in his basement until the authorities intervened.But, I mean, come on, who hasn't kidnapped a girl or two and kept them in his basement? Glass houses and rocks or whatever.
Member #4585
06-03-16, 01:20
But, I mean, come on, who hasn't kidnapped a girl or two and kept them in his basement? Glass houses and rocks or whatever.I really had to think about this one to give the context of what was being said.
The phrase of "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" can be paraphrased as meaning people should not criticize others for faults that they have themselves.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=People%20who%20live%20in%20glass%20houses%20shouldn%27t%20throw%20stones&defid=2661709
I am still not sure what you are saying. Is this the same as the cooking pot calling the boiling kettle that it is black?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pot+calling+the+kettle+black.
UltraHappy
06-03-16, 03:44
I really had to think about this one to give the context of what was being said.
The phrase of "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" can be paraphrased as meaning people should not criticize others for faults that they have themselves.
I am still not sure what you are saying. If everyone else kidnapped a girl and kept her in his basement, then don't criticize me for doing the same (since everyone else is doing it). Hence the, "come on, who hasn't done XYZ before?
And no, I haven't kidnapped girls and kept them in my basement. I don't have a basement, so I have to keep them in my closet. But, don't think me heartless -- I mean, I do put them in my biggest closet, so there's that. You see, I'm really just a big softy deep down.
Well, women who marries an ugly guy must be feeling as if they are stuck in a glass house for the rest of their husbands life.
To other guys, it only says 'look, but don't touch'.
Well, women who marries an ugly guy must be feeling as if they are stuck in a glass house for the rest of their husbands life.
To other guys, it only says 'look, but don't touch'.Hahaha! You are right Mr Pistons, marriage is like a kidnap for men, especially men with money LOL It keep you away from doing anything fun in life especially in area of sex life LOL.
Plus all women become ugly after age 25,35 max.
Marriage is not for this era, well at least if you want to have fun in life to the max.
If to marry, it is best to get married at late 40's to around 20 years old girl.
StarletVoyager
06-04-16, 06:11
From your post it says you'll be hitting oase / sharks 2nd 3rd week of June. My dates are in travel section. If your around pm. Thanks.
BadinSweet
06-06-16, 20:01
Glad to see that they arrested all these A-holes. I will be in DUS in less than a month too.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/02/europe/germany-isis-arrests/
Glad to see that they arrested all these A-holes. I will be in DUS in less than a month too.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/02/europe/germany-isis-arrests/Well not surprising with this one because most educated one could have predicted this kind of thing as a result of Merkels policy, though mass sexual assault across Germany was more of unexpected outcome from the policy.
Either way, German getting all wrong about how refugee can fit into German society because with the mentality of the culture where they come from, it is German who should understand and fit into their mentality / culture, especially their religion, so Germany should began to think about how to adapt Islamic cultures and customs into German society, otherwise, this kind of incidents will occur more unfortunately.
In my country, we only accept good immigrants and doors are very small as we care a lot about quality of immigrants because we care about safety and quality here because we know the outcome if we just let anyone in, we are more into asian immigrants with good engineer degrees because they do not cause problem, they behave and work very hard and they do not expect other nation to adapt to them, so we accept more educated asians as immigrants, but again doors are very small for any immigrants to able to reside in my nation, this is what it takes to protect the nation and our industry and quality and safety.
As for workforce, we do not live in low tech society and we are fully adapting ourselves to 21st century, so we have most advanced robots that are getting better and better on weekly basis or even faster. Robots do not cause crime, do not complain and robots work 24/7, we just have to provide them with electricity and program them once in awhile.
Only good outcome of refugee is that, they contribute indirectly or even directly to future line up of FKK because a lot of my favorite girls are German born girls, but with hybrid of other nation like half German half something or fully other nation, but German born, I love fucking exotic girls, so it suit me fine LOL.
Glad to see that they arrested all these A-holes. I will be in DUS in less than a month too.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/02/europe/germany-isis-arrests/How come you missed this A-hole?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/french-suspect-arrested-for-alleged-attack-plot-during-soccer-tournament-ukraine-says/2016/06/06/199d7c73-9546-421c-89af-1a1d59989fc1_story.html
From monger point of view. Refugees are welcome because I like fucking exotic girls and I cannot thank refugees and immigrants enough for exotic beauty in LU of FKK.
I mean without refugees and immigration in Europe, how would we able to fuck girls from Islam cultural background, fucking muslim girls in muslim nations are hard and can lead to severe beating, imprisonment or death.
In FKK I fucked so many beautiful Muslim girls and this is thanks to immigration policy of Europe, so I welcome all refugees to Germany, just please make sure that some of those exotic beauty end up in FKK for me to taste them sexually.
Vito Corleone
06-07-16, 09:17
In my country, we only accept good immigrants and doors are very small as we care a lot about quality of immigrants because we care about safety and quality here because we know the outcome if we just let anyone in, we are more into asian immigrants with good engineer degrees because they do not cause problem, they behave and work very hard and they do not expect other nation to adapt to them, so we accept more educated asians as immigrants, but again doors are very small for any immigrants to able to reside in my nation, this is what it takes to protect the nation and our industry and quality and It's much easier to be picky & have a small door policy when your country is 4 main islands with basically the same land mass as California. 20 yrs ago Japan experienced many problems with Iranians & other middle eastern people harassing, grouping the women & stealing. Yes the technology & robots are very impressive, but with an aging population & extremely low birth rate some people will have to start adopting those robots!
Let's appreciate Germany for it's great cars, the autobahn & allowing people from all over the world to enjoy their sex clubs (yes not all are allowed in some clubs). You are have the choice to visit Germany & have fun in the clubs. No Germans have a chance to get any action in Yoshiwara or any high end soapy with real Japanese girls. I'm talking about the really nice high end places, not the crappy tourist spots with Chinese & Koreans (no offenses).
Maybe it's time to get off the high horse & start finding new ways to jerk off 7 times a day, do the Harlem Shake or whatever it is you do to improve your sexual endurance.
How come you missed this A-hole?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/french-suspect-arrested-for-alleged-attack-plot-during-soccer-tournament-ukraine-says/2016/06/06/199d7c73-9546-421c-89af-1a1d59989fc1_story.htmlIsn't this French guy who got arrested for purchasing the weapons in Ukraine to attack Muslims in Europe /(mainly in France) or something?
This Merkels policy is destroying Europe by dividing people in half creating some hate to each other and almost killing each other. This is real crazy. It is like mini civil war in Europe about to begin, they took the war into Europe LOL.
Well meanwhile I spread love and sex in FKK land where we can fuck European or Muslim girls as long as they look good and we men can pay some euro LOL.
In FKK, we all get along better than in United nations LOL.
Maybe, but I think most of us have national preference on which girls we like. Personally I'm not into Nigerians, Chileans, Egyptians, Bolivians etc so I wouldn't give them visums, but I'm all for Moldavian, Russians, Iranians, Vietnamese, Colombians etc having free entry with passports. Selective racist I know.
Some countries just have a way higher percentage of beautiful girls than others. Most fall in between though... aboriginal australians, dravidian indian and south Nigerians on one end of the scale and perhaps czechs, Ukrainians, Swedes, Sichuanese on the other
Maybe, but I think most of us have national preference on which girls we like. Personally I'm not into nigerians, chileans, egyptians, bolivians etc so I wouldn't give them visums, but I'm all for moldavians, russians, iranians, vietnamese, colombians etc having free entry with passports. Selective racist I know.
Some countries just have a way higher percentage of beautiful girls than others. Most fall in between though... aboriginal australians, dravidian indian and south nigerians on one end of the scale and perhaps czechs, ukrainians, swedes, sichuanese on the otherMy nationality preference is very clear and fixed. The country of whichever girl currently gives me the best sex, the highest illusion factor, and cheapest price.
PussyLiccker
06-07-16, 18:34
Well said optimist. I completely agree.
Maybe, but I think most of us have national preference on which girls we like. Personally I'm not into nigerians, chileans, egyptians, bolivians etc so I wouldn't give them visums, but I'm all for moldavians, russians, iranians, vietnamese, colombians etc having free entry with passports. Selective racist I know.
Some countries just have a way higher percentage of beautiful girls than others. Most fall in between though... aboriginal australians, dravidian indian and south nigerians on one end of the scale and perhaps czechs, ukrainians, swedes, sichuanese on the otherFor me as long as she looks like model or next door beauty, then I do not mind nationality and I love enjoying exotic girls as long as she fit my taste of classic beauty that most will agree.
However, I have strong tendency for loving, Swedish, Danish, Estonians, Lithuanians, some nice German, some Hungarians, Ukrainians, some Russian, and nice blonde Czech.
On the other hand, I enjoy fucking some exotic beauty from morocco (half white preferred) and some other Muslim nations and Persians and also I love south american now and then.
For me as long as she is really beautiful, it is all good and exoticism excite me to do dirty thing with most beautiful girls around the world.
When I see their nations in news for whatever event it is, it remind me of dirty precious memories I had with the beautiful girls from there LOL.
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On the other hand, I enjoy fucking some exotic beauty from morocco (half white preferred).Quite some moroccan (and algerian) berbers look european (iberian) though. Today alot are a mix of berber and arabic (maybe half/half?), but some areas still are mainly berber. For those who haven't met many moroccans, it is understandable that they can be a bit baffled at how diverse they can look. And some look 'white', whatever that definition is...
Quite some moroccan (and algerian) berbers look european (iberian) though. Not so much the arabic invaders though. Today alot are a mix of berber and arabic (maybe half/half?), but some areas still are mainly berber. For those who haven't met many moroccans, it is understandable that they can be a bit baffled at how diverse they can look.Diversity is the beauty of FKK, I love digging it and finding the one and fucking her LOL.
I love digging it and finding the one and fucking her LOL.
Digg or gigg? ;)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KVFHkAzWAnc
Digg or gigg? ;)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KVFHkAzWAncWell it is bit like hunting in FKK jungle, I consider myself as very picky prostitute hunter LOL.
Quote credit to pioneer of prostitute hunter, real warrior inside and also outside the ring in prostitute scene, one and only prostitute hunter hall of fame Mike Tyson LOL.
PussyLiccker
06-15-16, 01:27
Anybody been to Adiamo or Wellcum in Villich, AT? Any experiences will be wellcum. Anybody know of forums that discuss the two clubs? Can't find info on ISG besides GT, Vien. Must I be the Guinea pig again? LOL.
Hessen Bub
06-15-16, 10:09
You probably mean Andiamo. I'ver never been and I will not visit. The club and the girls have specialised on Italian visitors. That means (and this is quoting girls and even Italians visiting World or Sharks) higher prices and lower servive levels. AFAIK half an hour is 70 EUR and girls will not DFK for that price, some of them won't even do BBBJ. This is what I heard from various sources. Have fun there. Entrance is 75 EUR including two beer if I remember right.
HB.
PussyLiccker
06-15-16, 10:27
Yes, Andiamo. I will ask again, has anybody been to either of the places? HB is known to take info from others on places, and relay it here. Anybody that has been there rather than HB's take on somebody said this, so will never visit. Any suggestion of forums out there(Italian, Austria, etc..) would be informative. Thanks(oh and thanks HB on your opinion about a place you never visited. Hehe.)
Hessen Bub
06-15-16, 11:44
oh and thanks HB on your opinion about a place you never visited. Hehe.We will see how much variance there will be to other poster's opions. If there is anybody replying to your question. Go and visit, I appreciate another take on Andiamo.
HB.
Was there once, a club with many Italian guys. 30 minutes more expansive than in Germany, LU was only so lala, better than some NRW clubs but far behind the Frankfurt big5 clubs. No idea about the service level bc I've sessioned only with a fav of me from an other club.
But I would never think in dream going to Andiamo when I usally clubbing in Hessen or NRW just too much waste on time (and money) only to get there for a mediocre club.
Have a work visit likely to happen to London it may happen but for the moment keeps illuding me I was wondering anyone here from the UK and London in special how would you guys compare mongering in London vs Mongering in the Frankfurt FKK's? I know FKK could be more value for money, but other than what are the major difference is the quality available in FKK far better than what you would get paying to escorts in London?
Was in Andiamo once a couple of years ago. The club is nice and stylish, girls are pretty (but not prettier than currently in Sharks), guys are all Italian (at some point I started ordering my drinks in Italian to save time), guys think a smiling girl is all that is needed (not that different from Hesse then), service in general is crap. I had most fun talking with Carla / Cheyenne / Daria who was feeling sorry for me. That is after she laughed out loud when I told her I'd a session to include DFK. "No girl does that here, she politely informed me".
He, it was just the single visit. But I'm not going back in a hurry.
Have a work visit likely to happen to London it may happen but for the moment keeps illuding me I was wondering anyone here from the UK and London in special how would you guys compare mongering in London vs Mongering in the Frankfurt FKK's? I know FKK could be more value for money, but other than what are the major difference is the quality available in FKK far better than what you would get paying to escorts in London?That's apples and pears. Escorts, regardless of city, are a very different kettle of fish to FKK. Personally I prefer FKK as it is a more laid back experience.Pay sex in London is only semi legal and usually skanky, although upscale escorts are available at a price. One option will be group parties, see the London thread, which are however tame by German standards.
I think the quality of girls might be better in Frankfurt because of the competition between the girls and of course you pay like two or three times less than in London, I think.
Maybe Carly (Oceans) ex-Wellcum (Kathy) gives so good service now at Oceans because she was sick of giving bad service at Wellcum? Like opposite of GT girls who leave GT only to see their former 'good' service drop? Hmm.
Its like ying and yang!
You probably mean Andiamo. I'ver never been and I will not visit. The club and the girls have specialised on Italian visitors. That means (and this is quoting girls and even Italians visiting World or Sharks) higher prices and lower servive levels. AFAIK half an hour is 70 EUR and girls will not DFK for that price, some of them won't even do BBBJ. This is what I heard from various sources. Have fun there. Entrance is 75 EUR including two beer if I remember right.
HB.
Was there once, a club with many Italian guys. 30 minutes more expansive than in Germany, LU was only so lala, better than some NRW clubs but far behind the Frankfurt big5 clubs. No idea about the service level bc I've sessioned only with a fav of me from an other club.
But I would never think in dream going to Andiamo when I usally clubbing in Hessen or NRW just too much waste on time (and money) only to get there for a mediocre club.
Was in Andiamo once a couple of years ago. The club is nice and stylish, girls are pretty (but not prettier than currently in Sharks), guys are all Italian (at some point I started ordering my drinks in Italian to save time), guys think a smiling girl is all that is needed (not that different from Hesse then), service in general is crap. I had most fun talking with Carla / Cheyenne / Daria who was feeling sorry for me. That is after she laughed out loud when I told her I'd a session to include DFK. "No girl does that here, she politely informed me".
He, it was just the single visit. But I'm not going back in a hurry.Looks like Hessen Bub is correct yet again! Thanks to Craiova and FreeDude for providing first hand knowledge and experience. I would be careful wandering too far away from Germany for the FKK / Sauna Club experience. You get value for money and a reasonable standard of service from attractive service providers in Deutschland. Elsewhere you pay more or the service is not as good or both!
PussyLiccker
06-16-16, 03:04
The Italian forums has some reports. There are reports of BBBJ and French kissing based on couple reports read. But, it seems like girls upsell kissing for 30 Euros based on one report stating that got no such upsell from multiple girls. Interestingly, there was an ex-Sharks girl Erika was reported to be have worked there (who is currently at Oceans). Who gives pretty good service. Some website says 70 girls (assuming it's during peak). 85 for entry.
If I decide to visit, I'll let chall know. I may do so out of curiosity sake, and to experience a different place, different LU. Villach would be interesting to check out as well.
That's apples and pears. Escorts, regardless of city, are a very different kettle of fish to FKK. Personally I prefer FKK as it is a more laid back experience.Pay sex in London is only semi legal and usually skanky, although upscale escorts are available at a price. One option will be group parties, see the London thread, which are however tame by German standards.Yeah for me to get into from the UK to the Schengen Area would require a separate Visa so was thinking will I have the same experience of the laid back, easy experience of FKK by doing Escorts in London. So you are saying the only difference could be price with London getting very expensive.
I think the quality of girls might be better in Frankfurt because of the competition between the girls and of course you pay like two or three times less than in London, I think.The same East European girls flock the FKK's in Germany and the same East European girls also go to London for Business! But yes Prices vary hugely!!
Problem with escorts is that internet pictures are mostly fake. You don't get to talk to them in advance, and once you get to her, you only have that one option. If you decide you don't want her, you have to spend 30 minutes or so getting to and arranging for the next pick.
In an FKK, you have tons of options at one location.
Joeey, yes London is currently over twice the price of FKK for a run of the mill girl
Pistons is right about the fake escorts pictures in all countries.
Will be visiting Nuremberg next week. Will have a car, so wondering if I should drive to Frankfurt for one of the bigger ones or go to the local ones. Any places you would recommend or not?
Problem with escorts is that internet pictures are mostly fake. You don't get to talk to them in advance, and once you get to her, you only have that one option. If you decide you don't want her, you have to spend 30 minutes or so getting to and arranging for the next pick.
In an FKK, you have tons of options at one location.Yeah! I agree most of the Escort Pictures on the Internet are fake, but I have had one Escort in Amsterdam and was pretty much the same that the website showed, except for the fact that she was going with different names on different websites.
Will be visiting Nuremberg next week. Will have a car, so wondering if I should drive to Frankfurt for one of the bigger ones or go to the local ones. Any places you would recommend or not?Depends how much time you have. Return drive to Frankfurt is minimum four hours. If enough time for at least one long club day than I would prefer a big Frankfurt club, If only few hours left than use one of the small Nuernberg clubs like Palmas or Heaven.
MikeTk1974
06-18-16, 11:40
OMG! I plan a trip to safari at Stuttgart. I heard that this club is closed. Can a some guy prove it?
Thanks!
PussyLiccker
06-18-16, 18:44
Give them a call.
OMG! I plan a trip to safari at Stuttgart. I heard that this club is closed. Can a some guy prove it?
Thanks!Was open last Sunday, 50€ entry with free beer because of the Euro football championship.
MikeTk1974
06-18-16, 20:35
Was open last Sunday, 50 entry with free beer because of the Euro football championship.Woooow! Thanks! Buddy. How many gals here? Have any stunner you discovered?
Depends how much time you have. Return drive to Frankfurt is minimum four hours. If enough time for at least one long club day than I would prefer a big Frankfurt club, If only few hours left than use one of the small Nuernberg clubs like Palmas or Heaven.Awesome. Thanks for the recommendation. Will see how things go a decide accordingly.
You probably mean Andiamo. I'ver never been and I will not visit. The club and the girls have specialised on Italian visitors. That means (and this is quoting girls and even Italians visiting World or Sharks) higher prices and lower servive levels. AFAIK half an hour is 70 EUR and girls will not DFK for that price, some of them won't even do BBBJ. This is what I heard from various sources. Have fun there. Entrance is 75 EUR including two beer if I remember right.
HB.Entrance is 85 both in Wellcum and Andiamo. Guests are italians 90%, girls are romanian 95%. Half hour 70, extras 50 (anal 100). Higher prices and lower average service levels is correct, but BBJ is the norm (italians are not that fool), DFK is more hit and miss but no big difference with today's situation at clubs like Oase or Mainhattan. Upsell / sharkiness level is worse in Palace or Artemis, for example.
LU level is good for looks, comparable for quantity and quality to ok clubs like LR or Mainhattan.
Andiamo has older facilities (industrial area warehouse) and popuarity is on the downside, Wellcum has better and newer facilities (nice location in the countryside, beautiful outdoors) and the trend is positive. A few top notch providers there.
Since approx 2 years italians of the north-east also have another option which is Marina Sauna Club, just across the border with Slovenia (nova Gorica).
Comparable to the 2 souther austrian clubs, same prices, same romanians, service and attitude maybe a bit worse.
To sum it up, if you are used to German clubs don't expect anything better, but if you happen to venture down there, why not.
Yama San?
http://www.xvideos.com/video21902375/ana_fox_loves_asian_cock
PussyLiccker
06-20-16, 06:27
If I do decide to stop by, I hope to be wellcumed by Ailin. Tone ass body.
YamaYama0519
06-20-16, 12:08
Yama San?Hahaha, he is my brother in law, who has taught me how to DATY in video. YamaYama.
As there haven't been any posts on thinks huge topic in a while. I was wondering are there any updates on how this proposed new law is progressing, are there any objections or will it be plain sailing with full implementation in little over a year?
YamaYama0519
06-21-16, 13:13
By using the same blade I assume?I have a female friend who loves to make jokes about this. When she talks to a guy with beard or mustach she allways mentions his facial pubes.For the first time, it was weird, but for the second time it was natural. LOL.
Just a short post to wave the flag and to show I am still alive and kicking to those of you who go back more than a couple of years.
Later,
Jackyo.
Just a short post to wave the flag and to show I am still alive and kicking to those of you who go back more than a couple of years.
Later,
Jackyo.Great to hear from you. Look forward to your renewed presence. You will probably remember me as "Shiatsu" and then "Shiatsu and Cordelia".
YamaYama0519
06-21-16, 20:33
So late in the day you will be unpleasantly prickly I guess. For face I shave multiple times per day to keep it fairly smooth.Shaving once a day is enough for me. A little prickly at midnight though.
Do you guys think it's worth to visit at DV or at other clubs also when at NRW in this weekend and in the next week?
I planned to spend my time only at LR and GT this time. Using public transport and taxis. Got hotel room at Mercure hotel Kaarst close to LR.
Saw a post in Dusseldorf thread about a place called susannas-institut and there's a girl that got my interest so might visit there too.
As there haven't been any posts on thinks huge topic in a while. I was wondering are there any updates on how this proposed new law is progressing, are there any objections or will it be plain sailing with full implementation in little over a year?Quite sure new law with almost all changes as here explained will be inforce on July 1st, 2017.
As Guy93 I'm planning to visit FKK next week with a friend, on Thursday and Friday.
Do you have any recommendation, because we have planned to stay all day in the club we are looking for club which is not too small and where GSM is authorized and WIFI provided.
That's exclude all FKK in Hesse I guess?
For now, my current list is:
Sixsens / YinYang / VillaVertigo / Goldentime.
Eventually, but I already know those 2 club (I would prefer to discover new club) :
PSR (just in case of bad weather) / Living room.
I need help to reduce this list to 2 club! But I open to others suggestion if my list is not that good.
Of course line up is quite important as well as service are! I really looking for DFK as quite a standard.
YamaYama0519
06-22-16, 12:21
I didn't know that some girls take longer time to cum than I'd thought before.
http://www.youporn.com/watch/11470587/masturbating-together-with-her-friend-to-orgasm-on-cam/
Why would GSM and wifi exclude the Hessen clubs? At Oase you get the passwort for the wifi if you ask. Palace is different so no wifi. Cant recall sharks or world...
Hessen Bub
06-22-16, 22:50
Why would GSM and wifi exclude the Hessen clubs? At Oase you get the passwort for the wifi if you ask. Palace is different so no wifi. Cant recall sharks or world...Palace offers WiFi. Sharks and World do not.
HB.
Palace offers WiFi. Sharks and World do not.Mainhattan also offers WiFi. Sharks is ok for my regular provider but signal at World is really bad.
Palace offers WiFi. Sharks and World do not.
HB.Oh, guess I just never asked at Palace then.
PussyLiccker
06-23-16, 14:49
As Guy93 I'm planning to visit FKK next week with a friend, on Thursday and Friday.
Do you have any recommendation, because we have planned to stay all day in the club we are looking for club which is not too small and where GSM is authorized and WIFI provided.
That's exclude all FKK in Hesse I guess?
For now, my current list is:
Sixsens / YinYang / VillaVertigo / Goldentime.
Eventually, but I already know those 2 club (I would prefer to discover new club) :
PSR (just in case of bad weather) / Living room.
I need help to reduce this list to 2 club! But I open to others suggestion if my list is not that good.
Of course line up is quite important as well as service are! I really looking for DFK as quite a standard.GT and LR I would recommend, more toward LR for on the avg better services. The reality is, LR isn't a large scaled club, it's like how it's named, the main lounge is like a Living Room with a bunch of couches. Not that large of a lounge. They also have a tent outside for chilling also with couches, tables/chairs. Smoke can be filled due to smaller spaced lounge. But, it's about the girls, and services, no?
Both have Wifi. GT has multiple open hot-points that shows up on the phone, you have to connect to the right one. I've had best luck in-doors or on the couches right outside the building. GSM or cellphones are no problem if you have them out anywhere. LR, you can ask the front desk for the password to their wifi network.
I have not faced issues with pulling out my phone at most places at the NRW like you'd run into in Hessen. Not sure about the NL clubs like YY, but at SixSens, they will tell you phone use only in the upstairs lounge, and outside should be fine. YY also has wifi. I know Oceans and PHG has wifi, dunno about others. According to the website, H7 as well.
Member #4581
06-24-16, 03:06
Since I am watching this Brexit vote on TV right now, I am reminded of a conversation with a FKK girl last week. She seemed to be reasonably smart. Anyway, she claimed to be a student of some sort and wanted to work in London after she finishes her diploma. I said "well, I hope next week's vote will go in your favor" - she is Romanian. Anyway, it turns out she has no clue what this Brexit was supposed to be, and it might impact her aspirations. I was a bit surprised myself that some of these girls can be so blissfully ignorant of what's happening in their neck of woods. Oh well.
I find that cute and funny at the same time.
On a serious note, it seems that Brexit has passed.
Hessen Bub
06-24-16, 06:53
The Brits are out. That could mean that a lot of Romanian girls will come back to EU countries to work. If there's not some kind of agreement that will allow them to stay and work there.
HB.
Wolvenvacht
06-24-16, 07:27
The Brits are out. That could mean that a lot of Romanian girls will come back to EU countries to work. If there's not some kind of agreement that will allow them to stay and work there.
HB.At least 2 years before really anything will change.
At least 2 years before really anything will change.The UK has already changed and it's only the start, as you suggest.
The Brits are out. That could mean that a lot of Romanian girls will come back to EU countries to work. If there's not some kind of agreement that will allow them to stay and work there.
HB.We got enough Romanians in FKK already, some more cannot hurt, but what is more worrying is Czech leaving EU. I love fucking Czech girls, though I no longer see Czech girls anymore.
We need Ukraine in EU, that would change LU of FKK dramatically.
The UK has already changed and it's only the start, as you suggest.What happens to all the Eu's who are working or own their own businesses over there, will they be forced out?
Hessen Bub
06-24-16, 16:44
We got enough Romanians in FKK already, some more cannot hurt, but what is more worrying is Czech leaving EU. I love fucking Czech girls, though I no longer see Czech girls anymore.
.Yeah. Sure.
HB.
What happens to all the Eu's who are working or own their own businesses over there, will they be forced out?No, but the climate of opinion makes some think about taking their skills back to Europe. Nobody who is already resident will have to leave the country.
A few things to note:
- Pound has dropped by more than 10% compared to the euro (on top of another 15% drop since last fall). So this could immediately bring lots of girls out of uk and back to Germany.
- There are rumors of finance jobs being moved from London to for example Frankfurt. This could mean more business for the Hessen clubs if true.
But what's the thing about czech leaving? That can't be right. But if right, then the koruna may face simillair currency doomsday scenarios. That could bring some czech girls back to Germany as well. I hardly see any czech girls in fkk's that I like anyway. Ever since Marketa at Artemis a few years ago. So already kinda gave up on that.
Member #4581
06-24-16, 22:06
Don't think Sterling decline will drive girls out of London. Their local expenses and revenue is both in pounds, so they are ok for now. In a few months, UK and EU will get into this whole article 50 and begin formulating rules for the divorce including EU citizens working in UK and then these girls have a decision to make.
In the meanwhile, if there are a lot of layoffs in finance sector, some girls are likely to suffer from reduced demand. We will see.
Yes, some jobs will move to Frankfurt and Paris and other places, at least that's what analysts and media think. Again depends on the pace of article 50 trigger and how fast they cut ties and if banks are allowed to be domiciled in London while handling cross border euro denominated trade and transactions. I wish they would transfer me to Frankfurt; I surely would not complain, LOL.
I did not hear of anything about Czech. Don't think there is anything there. Pretty much every right wing group in every country will agitate for separation perhaps, and the ones getting mentioned in English language media are places like Netherlands with Geert Wilders. I would not worry about it. If the whole European Union collapses, then even Germany can't access Romanian girls and that would suck for all of us. Hopefully that day never comes.
A few things to note:
- Pound has dropped by more than 10% compared to the euro (on top of another 15% drop since last fall). So this could immediately bring lots of girls out of uk and back to Germany.
- There are rumors of finance jobs being moved from London to for example Frankfurt. This could mean more business for the Hessen clubs if true.
But what's the thing about czech leaving? That can't be right. But if right, then the koruna may face simillair currency doomsday scenarios. That could bring some czech girls back to Germany as well. I hardly see any czech girls in fkk's that I like anyway. Ever since Marketa at Artemis a few years ago. So already kinda gave up on that.
UShobbyist
06-24-16, 22:39
At least 2 years before really anything will change.The stock markets around the world disagree with you. LOL.
I hardly see any czech girls in fkk's that I like anyway. Ever since Marketa at Artemis a few years ago.Yeah pretty, blonde Marketa was good. She was turning so many tricks I started calling her "Mattress Back Marketa". I got that Czech corn hole of hers too! Yes Sir!
A few things to note:
- Pound has dropped by more than 10% compared to the euro (on top of another 15% drop since last fall). So this could immediately bring lots of girls out of uk and back to Germany.
- There are rumors of finance jobs being moved from London to for example Frankfurt. This could mean more business for the Hessen clubs if true.
But what's the thing about czech leaving? That can't be right. But if right, then the koruna may face simillair currency doomsday scenarios. That could bring some czech girls back to Germany as well. I hardly see any czech girls in fkk's that I like anyway. Ever since Marketa at Artemis a few years ago. So already kinda gave up on that.From FKK LU point of view, bad economy forecast and actual bad future economy of EU region could strengthen promising LU at German FKK, so I got no complain actually.
As ironic as it sound, more worst the economy get in whole EU region including Germany better the LU is in German FKK.
Wolvenvacht
06-25-16, 07:59
The stock markets around the world disagree with you. LOL.Indeed. It seems the economy dislikes uncertainty. I guess many "leave" voters already question their choice.
Funny fact: after the results were made public, the trending question from UK on Google was "What is the EU"? A bit late to ask yourself that. . .
Citizen Kane
06-25-16, 10:24
The stock markets around the world disagree with you. LOL.Ironically the UK FTSE actually finished higher than it opened this week.
After 7 years of stock market growth where the eu central bank and fed has been pushed into a corner where they cannot either rise or lower the interest rate, it was rigged for a brexit.
The brexit is nothing but a ponzi scheme to swip the general trend around to a bear market that will last some time. Soon Trump will take over in USA too, and more countries will leave EU.
National debt will start to be repaid across the globe, and interest rates will be cut into negative territory essentially reversing the money. Debt play.
Money will turn into debt, and debt into money. Otherwise there would be contraction in the world circulating money supply (M3 or M6?), and that would be even worse.
Indeed. It seems the economy dislikes uncertainty. I guess many leave voters already question their choice.
Funny fact: after the results were made public, the trending question from UK on Google was "What is the EU"? A bit late to ask yourself that..Well EU for pro mongers merely means, better LU at FKK because pro mongers dislike uncertainty. I guess for pro mongers bad LU means leaving and leave voters are already questioning the LU choices in many FKK LOL.
The worst the economy get better LU at FKK and I hope more poorer nations will join EU like Ukraine, so LU of FKK get better.
As for economy, it does not matter, Pro mongers are real warrior powered and motivated by sex at FKK, so pro mongers will always make big money, so we can go wild in FKK or escort around the globe.
As long as pro mongers dick is up, our economy will be always up because in mongering world mind set is simple and it is a bitter sweet reality of mongering world, No money, no honey LOL.
PussyLiccker
06-26-16, 00:06
Here is a video that gives a simple explanation of Brexit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czWhVBmrNPQ.
Attached are some analysis on the demographics of the voters. Greater number of older folks for it, and younger against. Similarly for educated vs uneducated.
Having been to many FKK clubs over the last few weeks, I am still trying to understand why there are so many Romanian girls in these clubs. Apologies if this has been asked before.
I understand the Romanian economy is not the best, but many other EU countries are also in very poor shape. The media presents them all as poor victums or naive who fall into the business, but many I talk to are savvy and return home regularly to family and friends and some of the best earn more than a Wall St banker. That kind of money would be attractive to anyone.
I have heard that there is a sex cam culture in Romania so maybe that leads into it somehow. But I don't accept that they are victums based on the girls I have chatted with.
Well, if you go to any of the online sex webcam sites, they all have a very large amount of romanian girls as well. But there the girls only gets a small fraction of the money, its only for looking and maybe just a few of them earn good money from it. Besides they have to sit alone infront of the pc looking good into a camera all day trying to look sexy. I really don't get why they choose the cam job ahead of the FKK job. And paying for these camera sessions are the most wasteful thing you can do in your entire life.
Just came back to Finland after being almost a week on holiday in Germany. Now at Helsinki airport. Going to post reports later.
Well, if you go to any of the online sex webcam sites, they all have a very large amount of romanian girls as well. But there the girls only gets a small fraction of the money, its only for looking and maybe just a few of them earn good money from it. Besides they have to sit alone infront of the pc looking good into a camera all day trying to look sexy. I really don't get why they choose the cam job ahead of the FKK job. And paying for these camera sessions are the most wasteful thing you can do in your entire life.Webcam girls are exposed to whole world and a lot of time end up in some porn site or at least it is recorded.
Working in FKK, girls can say they are working in restaurant or something in Germany to her friend back home in Romania, Bulgaria or Hungary or where-ever she comes from LOL.
However, a lot of girls working in FKK has hard time mentally after working in FKK, some they just marry some sorry ass guy who thinks she was an angel working hard in restaurants in Germany prior to the marriage LOL.
Polyamorist
07-02-16, 22:31
Some girls may want to sacrifice what they earn to keep a bad boy or a thug but that's nothing you and I can or should do anything about. Girls love bad boys, period. If you prevent/protect such girls from doing sex work, they will not leave the bad boy. What will change is that you will no longer get any of her because she will have been "protected out".
Both sexes can act foolishly. Men with their own house and a million in the bank marry girls whom they feel will most certainly take them to the cleaner before the family court and make them broke and homeless 2 or 3 years down the road, but they do it all the same! No counselling for those men though they would badly need it.
An old discussion but insightful enough to revive!
some they just marry some sorry ass guy who thinks she was an angel working hard in restaurants in Germany prior to the marriage LOL.What do you mean by the guy being a sorry ass? Haha.
He gets a skilled pro sex machine. Where is the negative?
Banana Boi
07-04-16, 08:30
Well, if you go to any of the online sex webcam sites, they all have a very large amount of romanian girls as well. If you've ventured to many FKK's you will see there is a degree of crossover between the web cam girls and FKK clubs. I've met girls I have seen on webcams and also know girls who have quit FKK clubs to go work on web cams. It's not necessarily limited to the Romanians.
If you've ventured to many FKK's you will see there is a degree of crossover between the web cam girls and FKK clubs. I've met girls I have seen on webcams and also know girls who have quit FKK clubs to go work on web cams. It's not necessarily limited to the Romanians.Interresting. I don't really spend time at all on these cam sites. Not even in public chat. But if what you are saying is true, then does that mean that it is possible for us to try and recruit some of these webcam girls over to work at FKK's? Hehe.
Interresting. I don't really spend time at all on these cam sites. Not even in public chat. But if what you are saying is true, then does that mean that it is possible for us to try and recruit some of these webcam girls over to work at FKK's? Hehe.Now I am going to spend all my free time on webcam looking for FKK girls I fucked before to wank LOL.
Member #4581
07-07-16, 03:33
If these girls are out there for the world to see on webcams, one wonders why they are so sensitive to being photographed or videoed in the room for a private memento by the punter.
Obviously, we understand not all the girls were ex webcam girls.
Hessen Bub
07-07-16, 09:08
Obviously, we understand not all the girls were ex webcam girls.I don't think there's I high percentage of ex webcam girls. At least from what girls told me.
HB.
If these girls are out there for the world to see on webcams, one wonders why they are so sensitive to being photographed or videoed in the room for a private memento by the punter.
Obviously, we understand not all the girls were ex webcam girls.They have boyfriend and in some or many cases they even have kids by looking at their facebook.
A lot of web cam girls seems to do their things with their boyfriends, not with customers or male porn actors.
This article indicates that the vote was held yesterday, Thursday. The central focus of the article is sex workers rightful anger at registration and identification requirements.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/beyondslavery/sonja-dolinsek/sex-workers-fight-against-compulsory-registration-and-identification-in
BadinSweet
07-08-16, 04:48
I won't name names but I have a good relationship going with this one girl in the club. I also find her best friend attractive and really like to session with her. What do you think it would be, afterward, if I take her friend to the room? I know I would ask her if she approves and of course she will say yes. But still, deep down, I'm pretty sure they will be like WTF.
ShoesAndSocks
07-08-16, 06:05
I won't name names but I have a good relationship going with this one girl in the club. I also find her best friend attractive and really like to session with her. What do you think it would be, afterward, if I take her friend to the room? I know I would ask her if she approves and of course she will say yes. But still, deep down, I'm pretty sure they will be like WTF.The fact you're hesitant and asking for opinions isn't a good sign. Based on my experience, it could go badly on a number of levels.
Did my friend seduce you, "my" regular client? (possible strained friendship). Are you bored with me? Is my friend more attractive than me? (end of good times with her). We're dealing with sensitive young creatures here.
I'd have a really good think about how important the current relationship is to you. You might end up wishing you'd managed to avoid one of the never-ending times these clubs throw temptation your way.
I've had "if looks could kill" indignation from girls simply because I've moved on and fancied others who they have no relationship with. There's no turning back in those cases.
This is a very iffy discussion. There seems to be some universal laws regarding this, but I don't know a solution. I just have to throw in that I agree it sucks. LOL.
The thing is just that there are lots of hot girls in these clubs and it is not easy to be faithful when they all try to seduce you, are naked and basically look quite good as well. To them it is a job, and they have a reason to go with 100 guys. But for us, it is not a job, and we pay for it. For the girls they therefore feel we give from ourselves to a different girl than them. But on the other side, some girls turn down some guys, and given that the girls can also choose to some degree, then that would make our 'excuse' just as valid wouldn't it?
Also, we are not really genetically programmed to only like one girl. That is a societal construct we have to fight all the time given our resistant genes who only want to spread our seeds as much as possible. Now does it mean we like the first girls any less? Not at all. It just means we want some variation in our sex life. Like taking a new roller coaster. But we still have our membership cards on the 'Crazy Griffon Coaster' because it will always make us gasp for air.
It also does not always help that the girls use their same fixed approach every time. And where does acting end and relationships begin? We do after all pay for the sex. A relationship is usually related to free sex. Although paying for a night out can sometimes be just as expensive.
Also, we are not really genetically programmed to only like one girl. That is a societal construct we have to fight all the time given our resistant genes who only want to spread our seeds as much as possible. That's it in a nuttshell. Women are hypergamous and men are promiscuous. Some men are worse than others in this respect. I for one tend to go off a girl as soon as I get chummy with her. Same in my private life. For me to want to fuck someone she has to be a "stranger".
Just tossing out ideas here, but what if it boils down to childbearing? A women having to bear a child, while the men can run away during the pregnancy (if only in theory, or in age gone past, what do we know? So all this leads to the female not feeling secure about the condom holding while doing this 'job'. At the same time their instincts works against them because the instincts haven't caught up with modern day technology (plastics etc). And maybe it is also part because most countries don't have equality between men and women. Higher salaries for men etc etc. Interestingly the only countries in the world with higher average salaries for women is where prostitution runs wild. But maybe when income is bad and the waistline index is low, they get more protective, and defensive. In that case, some here might be in for more trouble than whats good.
But where would that end? Gonna leave this one blank.
I won't name names but I have a good relationship going with this one girl in the club. I also find her best friend attractive and really like to session with her. What do you think it would be, afterward, if I take her friend to the room? I know I would ask her if she approves and of course she will say yes. But still, deep down, I'm pretty sure they will be like WTF.Even if she says it is ok, you will probably get disappointed looks. It isn't even a question of just trying to secure their income.
For example a girl who no longer works expressed huge disappointment that I was still going to clubs even though she is no longer there.
It happens even with girls who one has only just met. I went to a club and couldn't persuade her to come in on her day off, but she then (while on her day off) asked in disappointed tones if I had gone to the club while she wasn't there and who I had gone with.
The only answer is to ignore them. A working girl cannot expect to control their customers in order to deal with their emotional needs. What price your relationship with this girl if she cannot handle who you are.
The only answer is to ignore them. A working girl cannot expect to control their customers in order to deal with their emotional needs. What price your relationship with this girl if she cannot handle who you are.I agree with this completely. My only suggestion is to making sure that the last session is with the relationship girl even if you have already gone with her before. I usually stay to near closing time so it is usually her last session also. This way at least both parties can go home a little happier knowing that you were each other's last sessions.
Jimmy Boy 99
07-08-16, 18:48
I will be in Franfurt area starting July 15th. My current plan is Oase on Friday the 15th, World on Saturday, Sharks on Sunday, Sharks on Wednesday, and Mainhattan on Thursday. I am trying to decide whether to go to Oase on Monday and Rom / Atlanta on Tuesday, or the reverse. Any opinions on which order would have the best lineup would be appreciated. Thanks.
Yes Germany's day of shame has arrived and the insane new anti sex work law has been past in the Bundestag.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ProstSchG?src=hash
http://sputniknews.com/art_living/20160324/1036925352/germany-prostitution-laws-problems.html
Member #4581
07-09-16, 02:29
Thanks.
When I google it, I only find links to a German ra$e law. Don't see any mentions of new prostitution regulations including condoms.
Any links to the actual text?
Yes Germany's day of shame has arrived and the insane new anti sex work law has been past in the Bundestag.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ProstSchG?src=hash
http://sputniknews.com/art_living/20160324/1036925352/germany-prostitution-laws-problems.html
Yes Germany's day of shame has arrived and the insane new anti sex work law has been past in the Bundestag.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ProstSchG?src=hash
http://sputniknews.com/art_living/20160324/1036925352/germany-prostitution-laws-problems.htmlSo what does this mean? No more same FKK as it was or it will remain the same?
ShoesAndSocks
07-09-16, 07:31
When I google it, I only find links to a German ra$e law. Don't see any mentions of new prostitution regulations including condoms.This article translated well for me ...
https://www.aidshilfe.de/meldung/bundestag-beschliesst-prostituiertenschutzgesetz.
Dated July 8th, the opening paragraphs translated to (emphasis mine) ...
"Contrary to the criticism of sex workers and other Expert_innen and against the vote of the opposition, the Bundestag has adopted the draft of a so-called prostitutes Protection Act yesterday.
With the "Law on Regulation of Prostitution trade and the protection of persons working in prostitution persons" should, according to the lead Federal Ministry of Women, the "self-determination of people in prostitution" strengthened "acceptable working conditions" created and "dangerous excesses and attendant crime by better monitoring opportunities authorities "are suppressed. The amendment, which will come into force in 2017, provides inter alia for the introduction of a license requirement for Betreiber_innen of prostitution sites, a notification and consultation requirements for sex workers as well as a condom requirement."
A sad day for Germany, but perhaps a windfall for Austrian and Swiss (sex) tourism?
Western democracy seems to be having a run of disasters. Brexit, Australian federal election, and now this. What's next, President Trump?
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