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Did all the 5 initial points go through? Or did anything get changed? The only ways it affect us was the condoms right?
Anyway, I can see certain things being done to work against that issue. The FKKs might install locks from the inside of all rooms for example... or would that work against the safety of the girls too much perhaps?
How about breakable XXXL condoms?
This article translated well for me ...
https://www.aidshilfe.de/meldung/bundestag-beschliesst-prostituiertenschutzgesetz.
Dated July 8th, the opening paragraphs translated to (emphasis mine) ...
"Contrary to the criticism of sex workers and other Expert_innen and against the vote of the opposition, the Bundestag has adopted the draft of a so-called prostitutes Protection Act yesterday.
With the "Law on Regulation of Prostitution trade and the protection of persons working in prostitution persons" should, according to the lead Federal Ministry of Women, the "self-determination of people in prostitution" strengthened "acceptable working conditions" created and "dangerous excesses and attendant crime by better monitoring opportunities authorities "are suppressed. The amendment, which will come into force in 2017, provides inter alia for the introduction of a license requirement for Betreiber_innen of prostitution sites, a notification and consultation requirements for sex workers as well as a condom requirement."
A sad day for Germany, but perhaps a windfall for Austrian and Swiss (sex) tourism?
Western democracy seems to be having a run of disasters. Brexit, Australian federal election, and now this. What's next, President Trump?Let us inform each other how this law will affect German FKK, it will be applied from July 2017? Yes?
If anything changes, then here I come Vienna, or if Vienna LU sucks then here I come back Zurich Globe LOL.
Anyway, I can see certain things being done to work against that issue. The FKKs might install locks from the inside of all rooms for example... or would that work against the safety of the girls too much perhaps?
I would say that BBBJ will become an extra. Maybe expensive extra because of risk for the girls to be busted.
Pussy Scouter
07-09-16, 12:29
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EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited or deleted because the writing was so bad that the report was nearly impossible to comprehend.
I'm still not sure on what has been fully passed, are party treffs going to be illegal in July of next year EG Mustapha's sessions and what about flat rates like Caligula? And it's only a draft that has been passed, is it not, so amendments are possible good and bad?
I would say that BBBJ will become an extra. Maybe expensive extra because of risk for the girls to be busted.The risk is purely to the client, is it not?
I think the possibility of a client being blackmailed should not be entirely overlooked in some of the less salubrious clubs!
I would say that BBBJ will become an extra. Maybe expensive extra because of risk for the girls to be busted.With respect to a BBBJ restriction, my understanding of the way the law is written is that there is no risk for the girl since it's the client or "John" who would be fined, and not the "poor trafficked girl". I would be willing to pay up to 50 euros for BBBJ / CIM for any girl who would provide that service.
Jimmy Boy 99
07-09-16, 16:48
I tried to PM you but you don't receive PMs. I have posted my planned club visit schedule in the Travel Announcement section. Hopefully one or more of dates will coincide with your plans so that we can meet up again.
Article just says "2017". Is it July of 2017 or the start of 2017?
German lawmakers have approved a bill to make life safer for sex workers, including making the use of condoms obligatory.
Legislation in 2002 that legalized prostitution gave sex workers social benefits but led to the rapid growth of unregulated brothels, prompting calls for tighter controls. The bill approved Thursday calls for stricter government regulation of such establishments and their operators.
Sex workers will have to register and receive health advice at least every two years, which critics say will merely prompt many to work illegally.
German officials say it's important to set a standard on condoms that backs sex workers demands, but have conceded that verifying their use will be difficult. The legislation is to take effect in July 2017..This website says the law will go into effect in July of 2017. http://medicalxpress.com/news/2016-07-german-lawmakers-bill-life-safer.html.
In Germany the law on prostitution, designed to fully protect sex workers and prevent trafficking. However, some German politicians are suggesting that the new package would have the opposite effect and lead to an increase in the number of prostitutes working illegally. According to various estimates, in Germany in the field of sex work employed from 150 to 700 thousand women.
The Bundestag approved the law on prostitution July 7, according to DW with reference to the Agency dpa. The document will help engaged in the sphere of sex services women to receive more effective protection from violence, exploitation and coercion, said Minister for family Affairs, seniors, women and youth Manuela Sweig.
Under the new law, sex workers in Germany will be required every two years and required to register. In addition, prostitutes have to undergo a mandatory consultation with the Ministry for health. Sex workers aged 18 to 21 years, must register annually. Failure to register is punishable by a fine in the amount of one thousand euros. According to Sweig stipulated by the law duties are intended not for oppression, and for the protection of women, including forced sex work.
The new measures also apply to the owners of sex establishments, which will now have to obtain a permit for your business and host a special test reliability. For brothels introduced more stringent rules, in particular on the division of working and living spaces. Also legalized the ban on so-called sex flatrat services on the principle of all inclusive. For violations of the owners faces a fine of 50 thousand euros.
The law also applies to visitors of brothels. The document obliges the clients to use a condom under the threat of fines of up to 50 thousand euros. Together with the owners of brothels will be denied the right to advertise the services of unprotected sex.
Meanwhile, some politicians talk about the possible negative impact of the law on difficult adjustable the sphere of sex services. Prostitutes will not be logged but in the future will be to work illegally, said Ulla, Shows, representing the faction of green issues of womens policy. According to experts, the law may hamper the work of prostitutes, cause a forced deanonimizatsiyu and lead to the closure of sex establishments.
Earlier in Germany was held to protest sex workers against the law on the protection of the prostitutes. The protesters noted that compulsory registration was abolished in 1927 under pressure from the womens movement..Interesting that this article states girls in the 18 to 21 bracket need to register annually vs semi annually for anyone over 21. http://en.news-4-u.ru/in-germany-adopted-a-controversial-law-on-prostitution-designed-to-protect-sex-workers.html.
This website says the law will go into effect in July of 2017. http://medicalxpress.com/news/2016-07-german-lawmakers-bill-life-safer.html.
Interesting that this article states girls in the 18 to 21 bracket need to register annually vs semi annually for anyone over 21. http://en.news-4-u.ru/in-germany-adopted-a-controversial-law-on-prostitution-designed-to-protect-sex-workers.html.Aren't we fucked in Germany? If so, here I come Switzerland or Austria.
Mongerer88
07-10-16, 23:36
Aren't we fucked in Germany? If so, here I come Switzerland or Austria.My first and possibly only Germany trip will predate July, 2017. I presume there is no risk of early adoption by the brothels and sex clubs?
Has anyone read anything definitive, like the actual statute, to be sure the condom rule applies to oral sex?
A long time ago in the United States, when Hilary's husband was president, there was a rather robust debate as to whether oral sex was sex, or just a form of massage.
My first and possibly only Germany trip will predate July, 2017. I presume there is no risk of early adoption by the brothels and sex clubs?
Has anyone read anything definitive, like the actual statute, to be sure the condom rule applies to oral sex?
A long time ago in the United States, when Hilary's husband was president, there was a rather robust debate as to whether oral sex was sex, or just a form of massage.In Japan, sexual intercourse is sex and not blowjob legally. However, Hessen Bub said blowjob is sex in Germany legally.
Member #4585
07-11-16, 01:51
My first and possibly only Germany trip will predate July, 2017. I presume there is no risk of early adoption by the brothels and sex clubs?
Has anyone read anything definitive, like the actual statute, to be sure the condom rule applies to oral sex?
A long time ago in the United States, when Hilary's husband was president, there was a rather robust debate as to whether oral sex was sex, or just a form of massage.If it helps if Sodomy is still illegal in parts of the USA then that should cover it as sodomy can be either anal or oral sex.
Mongerer88
07-11-16, 02:36
If it helps if Sodomy is still illegal in parts of the USA then that should cover it as sodomy can be either anal or oral sex.Yes, but the Germans have always been a tad more enlightened than the Americans.
I don't read German so I can't read the new law. We all see articles regarding the new law's condom requirement, but none of the articles are very specific about which sex acts are involved.
I have never felt comfortable with Germany's AO system for vaginal and anal. It would be a damn shame if this AO system has now taken down the seemingly harmless BBBJ.
Yes, but the Germans have always been a tad more enlightened than the Americans.Always? Maybe not between 1935 and 1945. LOL.
From Liberal to conservative. What is going on EU.
Hessen Bub
07-11-16, 08:40
In Japan, sexual intercourse is sex and not blowjob legally. However, Hessen Bub said blowjob is sex in Germany legally.He did. And it's still valid.
HB.
BadinSweet
07-11-16, 12:14
Even if she says it is ok, you will probably get disappointed looks. It isn't even a question of just trying to secure their income.
For example a girl who no longer works expressed huge disappointment that I was still going to clubs even though she is no longer there.
It happens even with girls who one has only just met. I went to a club and couldn't persuade her to come in on her day off, but she then (while on her day off) asked in disappointed tones if I had gone to the club while she wasn't there and who I had gone with.
The only answer is to ignore them. A working girl cannot expect to control their customers in order to deal with their emotional needs. What price your relationship with this girl if she cannot handle who you are.
I agree with this completely. My only suggestion is to making sure that the last session is with the relationship girl even if you have already gone with her before. I usually stay to near closing time so it is usually her last session also. This way at least both parties can go home a little happier knowing that you were each other's last sessions.
Just tossing out ideas here, but what if it boils down to childbearing? A women having to bear a child, while the men can run away during the pregnancy (if only in theory, or in age gone past, what do we know? So all this leads to the female not feeling secure about the condom holding while doing this 'job'. At the same time their instincts works against them because the instincts haven't caught up with modern day technology (plastics etc). And maybe it is also part because most countries don't have equality between men and women. Higher salaries for men etc etc. Interestingly the only countries in the world with higher average salaries for women is where prostitution runs wild. But maybe when income is bad and the waistline index is low, they get more protective, and defensive. In that case, some here might be in for more trouble than whats good.
But where would that end? Gonna leave this one blank.
That's it in a nuttshell. Women are hypergamous and men are promiscuous. Some men are worse than others in this respect. I for one tend to go off a girl as soon as I get chummy with her. Same in my private life. For me to want to fuck someone she has to be a "stranger".
This is a very iffy discussion. There seems to be some universal laws regarding this, but I don't know a solution. I just have to throw in that I agree it sucks. LOL.
The thing is just that there are lots of hot girls in these clubs and it is not easy to be faithful when they all try to seduce you, are naked and basically look quite good as well. To them it is a job, and they have a reason to go with 100 guys. But for us, it is not a job, and we pay for it. For the girls they therefore feel we give from ourselves to a different girl than them. But on the other side, some girls turn down some guys, and given that the girls can also choose to some degree, then that would make our 'excuse' just as valid wouldn't it?
Also, we are not really genetically programmed to only like one girl. That is a societal construct we have to fight all the time given our resistant genes who only want to spread our seeds as much as possible. Now does it mean we like the first girls any less? Not at all. It just means we want some variation in our sex life. Like taking a new roller coaster. But we still have our membership cards on the 'Crazy Griffon Coaster' because it will always make us gasp for air.
It also does not always help that the girls use their same fixed approach every time. And where does acting end and relationships begin? We do after all pay for the sex. A relationship is usually related to free sex. Although paying for a night out can sometimes be just as expensive.
The fact you're hesitant and asking for opinions isn't a good sign. Based on my experience, it could go badly on a number of levels.
Did my friend seduce you, "my" regular client? (possible strained friendship). Are you bored with me? Is my friend more attractive than me? (end of good times with her). We're dealing with sensitive young creatures here.
I'd have a really good think about how important the current relationship is to you. You might end up wishing you'd managed to avoid one of the never-ending times these clubs throw temptation your way.
I've had "if looks could kill" indignation from girls simply because I've moved on and fancied others who they have no relationship with. There's no turning back in those cases.Thanks guys for all the comments and suggestions. I think, as of now, I like this girl too much to be risking the "relationship". Will see how it goes a couple weeks from now when all the high from the trip has worn down.
BadinSweet
07-11-16, 12:58
How responsive are the admin? I have reported this post to help remove the attachment: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2593-SC-Sauna-Club-Living-Room-Kaarst&p=1889938&viewfull=1#post1889938.
But I have not heard or see anything done. Maybe if more people report they will do something? Thanks in advance.
He did. And it's still valid.
HB.Where does the government ever pass laws like this? Imagine the awkwardness when voting around this at the Bundestag.
Christian G
07-11-16, 14:50
How responsive are the admin? I have reported this post to help remove the attachment: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2593-SC-Sauna-Club-Living-Room-Kaarst&p=1889938&viewfull=1#post1889938.
But I have not heard or see anything done. Maybe if more people report they will do something? Thanks in advance.Why the admin have to remove this attachment? Isn't against the forum's rules post a pic of the girl.
Wonder if dining will be outlawed as well?
Where does the government ever pass laws like this? Imagine the awkwardness when voting around this at the Bundestag.Whole EU is going toward extreme conservative, no immigration, no sex, no this, no that.
Wonder if dining will be outlawed as well?Need condom for that as it is oral sex LOL.
No worry, we still got Austria and Switzerland LOL.
If that get taken away, we got Brazil LOL.
Member #4585
07-12-16, 05:22
Where does the government ever pass laws like this?.In Berlin.
Member #4585
07-12-16, 05:25
Whole EU is going toward extreme conservative, no immigration, no sex, no this, no that.According to a recent example in the UK where 52% voted to leave the EU driven by a fear of foreigners then this is a good thing according to these soon to be ex EU country. Maybe there is something in that sentiment or conviction.
Member #4585
07-12-16, 05:28
Wonder if dining will be outlawed as well?Hmmm. A tough one. It could go either way. I am sure the food provider, cafe and restaurant industry has a large enough lobby to prevent this banning of dining from happening.
Whole EU is going toward extreme conservative, no immigration, no sex, no this, no that.Since when is allowing millions of geezers into Europe anti-immigration or conservative?
What is happening comes under the heading "misandry". Men should not have their fun. Men should do chores, work, pay, in exchange for nothing.
This is happening all over the World, not just in Europe. Look at the Thailand or DR threads, what do you see? Cops, closures etc. The whole World is closing in on us.
Since when is allowing millions of geezers into Europe anti-immigration or conservative?
What is happening comes under the heading "misandry". Men should not have their fun. Men should do chores, work, pay, in exchange for nothing.
This is happening all over the World, not just in Europe. Look at the Thailand or DR threads, what do you see? Cops, closures etc. The whole World is closing in on us.We still got kinky Austria and dirty Switzerland LOL.
Here in Japan, it is still some how OK LOL well I manage to fuck porn star here LOL.
However, German FKK is best and cheapest so we got to do something, but we can do nothing LOL.
Let hope it won't change for FKK as we are already panicking.
Germans are not Germans if they do not suck and eat raw sausages.
If they ban DATY, I will probably stop visiting these clubs.
Wonder if dining will be outlawed as well?
If they ban DATY, I will probably stop visiting these clubs.My experience of the Bavarian BBBJ ban (in places where it is enforced) is that DATY is not so hard to get as BBBJ but girls ask for extra money to allow it.
According to a recent example in the UK where 52% voted to leave the EU driven by a fear of foreigners then this is a good thing according to these soon to be ex EU country. Maybe there is something in that sentiment or conviction.Maybe if the uk economy collapses we can turn London into Pattaya since all the girls will make less money. Who knows, they might even abolish that crappy english shit they call breakfast and pay the gym a visit to look good for some mongers too right?
Edit: LOL!
Maybe if the uk economy collapses we can turn London into Pattaya since all the girls will make less money. Who knows, they might even abolish that crappy english shit they call breakfast and pay the gym a visit to look good for some mongers too right?
Edit: LOL!This is great idea, London got so many diversified races too.
UK is not fit enough to be on their own, so it is hopeful situation.
UShobbyist
07-12-16, 23:56
Is there any news about the VISA requirement for US and Canadian citizens travelling to Germany?
UltraHappy
07-13-16, 01:16
Is there any news about the VISA requirement for US and Canadian citizens travelling to Germany?Why would there be any news? Nothing has changed.
Der Auslander
07-13-16, 01:55
Is there any news about the VISA requirement for US and Canadian citizens travelling to Germany?It is the Britishers who now have the visa requirement :)
It is the Britishers who now have the visa requirement :)UK is obviously want to pull out good deal from UK.
But EU are in situation where they have to make good harsh example of UK leaving EU. Other wise, other nations will follow UK and just get good deal with EU LOL.
If UK legalize prostitution, it will attract a lot of tourism, but they have strong monarchy, so I doubt Elizabeth will allow it LOL.
Delta Indigo
07-13-16, 18:31
A post earlier stated that the Greens would block the new prostitution law in the Bundesrat. I checked and they indeed are in a position to block this law in the Bundesrat. Does anyone know if they intend to do this?
If UK legalize prostitution, it will attract a lot of tourism, but they have strong monarchy, so I doubt Elizabeth will allow it LOL.Prostitution has been legal in the UK for over 200 years.
What is not legal is the operation of brothels (defined as any place which has two or more sex workers even if they work separate shifts) which may get relaxed but don't expect anything like an FKK.
BadinSweet
07-13-16, 21:46
Why the admin have to remove this attachment? Isn't against the forum's rules post a pic of the girl.It's not against the forum rule but I'm sure it's against the law for posting someone pic without their consent, with Germany's privacy law, specially when the site / admin is asked to remove it.
I'm only trying to help out the girl. I'm sure if my picture is posted I would want it removed too.
UltraHappy
07-14-16, 01:04
It's not against the forum rule but I'm sure it's against the law for posting someone pic without their consent, with Germany's privacy law, specially when the site / admin is asked to remove it.
I'm only trying to help out the girl. I'm sure if my picture is posted I would want it removed too.It certainly has been a long-standing custom in the Germany FKK threads to respect the privacy of the WG's and not post their personal photos or other private information. The only exception to that is for photos that have already been publicly posted on FKK club web sites.
This photo that BadinSweet flagged is especially troublesome in that this photo was not a publicly-available photo and clearly shows the girl's face as well. That posting of this personal photo was certainly in bad taste and poor judgment. I'm surprised that the admin hasn't taken action to remove this photo.
BadinSweet
07-14-16, 03:36
How responsive are the admin? I have reported this post to help remove the attachment: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2593-SC-Sauna-Club-Living-Room-Kaarst&p=1889938&viewfull=1#post1889938.
But I have not heard or see anything done. Maybe if more people report they will do something? Thanks in advance.Thanks UltraHappy. In the meantime, I'm not sure what else I can do to help her. I'm hoping that if more people tag that post maybe, just maybe, admin will do something about it. Thanks again.
Hessen Bub
07-14-16, 07:28
It certainly has been a long-standing custom in the Germany FKK threads to respect the privacy of the WG's and not post their personal photos or other private information. The only exception to that is for photos that have already been publicly posted on FKK club web sites.
This photo that BadinSweet flagged is especially troublesome in that this photo was not a publicly-available photo and clearly shows the girl's face as well. That posting of this personal photo was certainly in bad taste and poor judgment. I'm surprised that the admin hasn't taken action to remove this photo.You're completely right. To respect the girl's privacy only pics available from club or other PaySex sites where she was advertised with a photo should be posted. This has been custom here for years and worked very well.
HB.
It is certainly morally wrong to post photos which identify a girl unless she has given permission. If she already has publicity photos on the Internet, then that would be different.
This will become even more problematic with face recognition technology.
From a selfish point of view, if members post photos then it will get harder to get personal pictures of workers.
KenzoTange
07-14-16, 12:31
Is there any news about the VISA requirement for US and Canadian citizens travelling to Germany?As a US citizen, it's more a hassle to return to the USA than entering the EU.
I am fly in monger who do FKK consecutively for like one week every day and I am multiple fuckers at FKK meaning I fuck 3 to maximum 7 times per day.
When I was younger, I could do 7 rooms 7 times 7 cum everyday, but in this about recent 2 years, I can do 3 rooms, then my dick get weaker. So I began to think about using 5 MG cialis every day when I fly in to Germany for FKK trip.
There are some report that low dose cialis is actually good for health and I only do German FKK trip 2 to 3 times per year, so low dose cialis when I am in Germany can be good thing for health as well. Also after the long flight to get the blood flow going cialis helps.
Are there any monger like me who does cialis when you are on FKK trip in Germany?
Cialis can be good solution for me to to do about 7 rooms 7 cum 7 times every day for like a week when I am in Germany, I miss my younger day when I was able to do that and I am hoping cialis can bring that back!
While cialis may be able to help you maintain / achieve an erection, it will not help with your ability to cum on your 3rd, 4th, or 5th session of the day. That is an issue with cardio, hydration, and decreased sensitivity.
Poor girl, having a session with a man on his 4th girl who is taking erectile drugs. It can hurt her physically and maybe hurts her feelings too.
I am fly in monger who do FKK consecutively for like one week every day and I am multiple fuckers at FKK meaning I fuck 3 to maximum 7 times per day.
When I was younger, I could do 7 rooms 7 times 7 cum everyday, but in this about recent 2 years, I can do 3 rooms, then my dick get weaker. So I began to think about using 5 MG cialis every day when I fly in to Germany for FKK trip.
There are some report that low dose cialis is actually good for health and I only do German FKK trip 2 to 3 times per year, so low dose cialis when I am in Germany can be good thing for health as well. Also after the long flight to get the blood flow going cialis helps.
Are there any monger like me who does cialis when you are on FKK trip in Germany?
Cialis can be good solution for me to to do about 7 rooms 7 cum 7 times every day for like a week when I am in Germany, I miss my younger day when I was able to do that and I am hoping cialis can bring that back!
I am fly in monger who do FKK consecutively for like one week every day and I am multiple fuckers at FKK meaning I fuck 3 to maximum 7 times per day.
When I was younger, I could do 7 rooms 7 times 7 cum everyday, but in this about recent 2 years, I can do 3 rooms, then my dick get weaker. So I began to think about using 5 MG cialis every day when I fly in to Germany for FKK trip.
There are some report that low dose cialis is actually good for health and I only do German FKK trip 2 to 3 times per year, so low dose cialis when I am in Germany can be good thing for health as well. Also after the long flight to get the blood flow going cialis helps.
Are there any monger like me who does cialis when you are on FKK trip in Germany?
Cialis can be good solution for me to to do about 7 rooms 7 cum 7 times every day for like a week when I am in Germany, I miss my younger day when I was able to do that and I am hoping cialis can bring that back!Yes ,I use cialis for multiple pop sessions and gangbangs, I use 20 MG and I am 48 years old. I reckon it's a no brainier re Viagra due to less side effects and longer lasting effects. But continuously using high dosages would not be good on a daily basis. I get mine from a fully legitimate source in Ireland. It really helps me enjoy myself!
Cialis can be good solution for me to to do about 7 rooms 7 cum 7 times every day for like a week when I am in Germany, I miss my younger day when I was able to do that and I am hoping cialis can bring that back!A large part of it is psychological Mr. Ho, and especially at your age too. You're not old! Now, the brain is the largest sex organ that we as human beings have. I'm afraid that a part of what you're experiencing is what I'm experiencing now as well. You see, as time goes by, the "drug" is having less and less of an effect on our brains. The brain is becoming "drug resistant". Oh, I'm not having a problem getting it hard. It's just becoming more and more difficult to get it off! Some of the excitement of it all is wearing away I fear.
You see, it used to be that if I put it in a pretty girl's butt for example, then I would explode after several minutes of cornholing her. But now, I can just pump and pump and pump and sometimes no nut! That's OK when you're fucking a girlfriend I suppose, but when you're with a tute you do face time pressures that require that you cum within a certain period, or else you will lose the opportunity. At least without digging even deeper into your pockets! So what to do? Well in your case, I guess you can try cialis or something like that.
And for me who still gets a "woody" but is having a harder time reaching climax? Well, I think I just need to take a nice, long break from the game. Get my body and soul back in shape for partaking in the hobby. Like my boy Kid Cisco told me, I been tricking for a long time. I been international tricking for a very long time! Time now to take a break from it before somehow (God forbid) the thrill is gone for good! Don't get me wrong. I still enjoy mongering, and for the most part I still bust much nuts. It's still rare for me to not cum at all.
It's just that I recognize and accept that after many, many years of sport fucking it is becoming more difficult to finish. That's what's precipitating my decision to slow down for a while. And start getting even more picky about the tutes I choose. I too am interested to hear how other mongers have tackled (and successfully resolved) these kinds of issues. We certainly cannot be the only ones who have faced these challenging problems in our mongering careers. Other thoughts welcome!
Guys,
I Thank you very much for detailed sincere reply on PDE inhibitor drug CIalis.
I think at one point for all monger who do many rooms, sexual health related to erection is very important as it determine how much you enjoy out of our long distance FKK trip that we do. And since we go to FKK on daily basis during trip, it is hardcore situation sexually LOL.
The thing is I got no problem getting it up or cumming, but problem is I have difficulty keeping it up during session, one little thing can lead to soft erection and girl has keep meto close to her, so that my penis is right in her pussy (If girl is cooperative like some girls in FKK are as they know how to make soft penis cum). The good thing is I am size XL for condom and got big one, so this method is still possible, but it is real tiring thing and make me enjoy session less.
I begin to have this problem about 4th year into FKK mongering trip, till 4th year I could do about 5 to 7 rooms with no problem.
I am 36 years old, so I researched and it is quite common for men in late 30's begin to use some PDE inhibitor drugs. So it begin to make me think about using it when I am on FKK trip because I mean it is special case as it is about 5 to 7 consecutive days, having sex few times per day every day in FKK, it is special situation that only monger experience right? LOL.
So what I am saying is that I will only spot use Cialis during my FKK trip which are about 2 to maximum 4 times per year, each trips is about 5 to 7 days and I will only take 5 MG cialis on daily basis with some Arginine while I am in Germany. If this gives me back the younger days when I could just fuck 7 girl per day with no problem, then I will be happy to do it. I want this low dose 5 MG cialis with some Arginine to be only FKK trip thing and other time I won't use it so my body won't get used to PDE inhibitor drug.
I did many research on PDE inhibitor drugs and Cialis seems to be the best and it seems to have no dependency and not hardcore side effect (some muscle pain, headache, but maybe not with 5 MG).
Not only there are limited side effect with Cialis, but I begin to read some promising possible side benefits for Cialis from quite reliable resources like John Hopkins university hospital etc about how Cialis gives you artery heath back as it gives body better blood flow, decrease some inflammation, it is said to be good for throat / neck cancers and a lot of promising possible side benfit of Cialis are reported from reliable medical organizations. Plus as long as it is spot use, then no prolong use damage has been reported.
So all this kind of lead me to think maybe to spot using low dose Cialis with arginine on daily basis while I am on German FKK trip is very good thing, so that my penis will be rock hard 24/7 while I am there and I will get best out of my FKK trip. Cialis seems to be miracle drug for the situation like my FKK trip as it solve the problem of getting it wood hard all the time and also has low side effect with some good side benefit also. I do not have problem cumming, I just need it up all the time.
It is good to know that I am not the only monger who seems to have mild problem like this, I was so shocked when this began happening, but you guys are right, we monger have way too much sex and sexual experiences that it is also mind too as it is hard to get me excited anymore because normally fucking beautiful girls anyway you want is limited to most, but not to us mongers, so things get normal and our penis get used to it, thus less reaction to sexual thing, so I need cialis to make my penis more sensitive to sexual thing once again as just beautiful girl won't do that any more.
According to some report by some kind mongers, cialis seems to work as long as I only spot use it when I do my German FKK trip with some arginine supplement.
Wolvenvacht
07-16-16, 08:04
You see, it used to be that if I put it in a pretty girl's butt for example, then I would explode after several minutes of cornholing her. But now, I can just pump and pump and pump and sometimes no nut! That's OK when you're fucking a girlfriend I suppose, but when you're with a tute you do face time pressures that require that you cum within a certain period, or else you will lose the opportunity. At least without digging even deeper into your pockets! So what to do? Well in your case, I guess you can try cialis or something like that.A common misconception! Cialis or Viagra will not help you to cum. "All' it does is assist you getting it up and keeping it up longer. And even then you will need sexual stimulus and foreplay to get hard.
A common misconception! Cialis or Viagra will not help you to cum. "All' it does is assist you getting it up and keeping it up longer. And even then you will need sexual stimulus and foreplay to get hard.That's what I am looking for as I can get it up, but it goes down while fucking and it won't get back up strong. I began taking cold shower and it got fixed today. I wonder why that is? I will try taking cold shower for while to see if it works, but I think I will still use cialis for next FKK trip as I think I will have rock hard erection for all my 5 or 7 sessions on daily basis and that is what I want.
That's what I am looking for as I can get it up, but it goes down while fucking and it won't get back up strong. I began taking cold shower and it got fixed today. I wonder why that is? I will try taking cold shower for while to see if it works, but I think I will still use cialis for next FKK trip as I think I will have rock hard erection for all my 5 or 7 sessions on daily basis and that is what I want.The Cane does have a good point, try sticking some cialis up your bum hole. Being closer to the source of the problem should give you more power.
The Cane does have a good point, try sticking some cialis up your bum hole. Being closer to the source of the problem should give you more power.Why would taking Cialis and fucking 5 to 7 girls make me asshole? LOL.
Explain.
Cialis is a waste. It makes you harder, but it also makes you less sensitive, and it gives you headaches after awhile. I've tried it a few times, but its not worth it.
The point with sex is to be aroused. Cialis works against this, so its counter productive. Only thing it does is to increase your 'shower' levels. So the girls might think you are hard...but in reality its a lie.
Dont know about viagra, but there you get more side effects too...
Better just save up some power before you go to an fkk (like no sex or masturbation for a week), eat lots of aphrodisiacs and get in shape... join the local crossfit team, lol. But no doping like so many does today... that also hurts your libido...
Cialis is a waste. It makes you harder, but it also makes you less sensitive, and it gives you headaches after awhile. I've tried it a few times, but its not worth it.I need something that can help increase the sensation. Yes, that's what I need. I can see how some mongers, the longer and longer they stay in the game, might start leaning towards more and more extreme sex acts in order to get off. The longer you pay for play, the stronger the dose of the "drug" you need in order to catch that high (cum). So to speak.
Cialis is a waste. It makes you harder, but it also makes you less sensitive, and it gives you headaches after awhile. I've tried it a few times, but its not worth it.
The point with sex is to be aroused. Cialis works against this, so its counter productive. Only thing it does is to increase your 'shower' levels. So the girls might think you are hard...but in reality its a lie.
Dont know about viagra, but there you get more side effects too...
Better just save up some power before you go to an fkk (like no sex or masturbation for a week), eat lots of aphrodisiacs and get in shape... join the local crossfit team, lol. But no doping like so many does today... that also hurts your libido...Really I read Viagra make it so hard, but less sensitive, but cialis just make it hard with same sensation just not as powerful as Viagra, so I thought daily 5 MG cialis with bit of arginine supplement just during FKK trip is worth a shot to maximize my fuck week at German FKK.
I used to have full swing blast doing like 7 rooms, and now I really missed it, and I want that back.
The other reason is that two years ago, I took arginine and I took it everyday even when I am at home as daily supplement, and then from next year on this weak erection. , so maybe me taking arginine supplement on daily basis even outside FKK trip made me have this mild problem. So I stopped taking arginine supplement few weeks ago to make my body back to normal. Maybe I should have spot take arginine supplement only during my FKK trip week and not daily through out years (2 years). I maybe built arginine nitric oxide tolerance due to arginine supplement. Like the saying maybe everything in excess is bad for you.
But again, I began researching and I began to take cold shower and I have strong morning boner now. I wonder what this is LOL.
It makes you less sensitive. Trust me. Don't forget your dick is a muscle, and when it just gets hard, its like a muscle being stretched for no reason. So it hurts after awhile. And hurted muscles makes it less good. LOL.
I need something that can help increase the sensation. Yes, that's what I need. I can see how some mongers, the longer and longer they stay in the game, might start leaning towards more and more extreme sex acts in order to get off. The longer you pay for play, the stronger the dose of the "drug" you need in order to catch that high (cum). So to speak.OK guys, how about using legally tolerated herbs in Germany like Mary the Jane?
I love how it increase my senses during sex.
The Cane. You ask how others deal with the issues you raise. I am similar to you in that after many years I don't get so excited and can easily do several sessions with no prospect of coming. My answer is exactly the same as yours: I have got much more picky as I know that only some girls will have the magic power. Other sessions become simple sport fucks. But to put it in context, if I am doing maybe six sessions a day for five days, I am not at all bothered if I don't come in half of them (although of course the girls much prefer it if their customer comes).
I see it less as a case of me becoming desensitised as a case of having learnt to appreciate only the highest service standards
I see it less as a case of me becoming desensitised as a case of having learnt to appreciate only the highest service standardsI appreciate your perspective. Yes, we as mongers must become more choosy. But I mean it's hard to know for sure if the girl is really going to have that "magic touch" when you're with her for the very first time, even if you know she meets all of your looks criteria. I was with a gorgeous girl recently. She had all the looks that I like. Shoulder length blonde hair, deep blue eyes, beautiful face, plump and round bubble butt. Hell, my dick is getting hard right now just thinking about her! Took her for an hour-long session and try as she might (she had to defend her talents after all), she couldn't get me to cum!
We went at it for almost the full hour (she took the challenge) and I couldn't bust! Man, when I first started I would have nutted three times in the session! Once in all three holes (everything was on offer). She was a champ and took my pounding for the session, and I mean even deep and hard and nuts deep in her succulent asshole. That "blondinka" frigged her pussy furiously while I pounded her in the butt and she had a small orgasm. But as hard as I tried to get there, I could not even after multiple positions, BBBJ, anal and everything!
Oh well, like you say, it's nothing to get overly upset over. Usually only happens to me once a trip anyway. As a footnote, I went out the next night, choose another attractive, big butt white girl (God I love them so much), and had an excellent GFE session with her. She offered anal, but the lovemaking was so good (she DFK'd and told me she loved me on the down stroke) that I forsake her anus. And I sperm inside of her (protected of course). I know when she works, and I will be going back to repeat. I want to hear that blonde beauty moaning in pleasure again and telling me she loves me and wants my babies. Hehehe! Yes, perhaps this is what I need in order to sperm every single time now. GFE sessions with pretty, bubble butt blondes who speak of love and marriage and having my children LOL!
Cane. Yes, sometimes I have the same experience. But it can be fun: when I do eventually come the girl can be so delighted that she high fives and jumps round the room.
A lot of it is in the head. I can be with a lovely girl and not come, but then an hour later another girl does the job no problem. Usually the more I like the girl as a person the longer it takes: guess I have some weird subconscious. A girl massaging my mind by saying she wants my babies would work well for me as well.
Usually the more I like the girl as a person the longer it takes: guess I have some weird subconscious.Actually, I don't find that weird at all. I'm the exact same way! I mean when I first started hardcore mongering, I would usually turn down girls who, for whatever reason, looked and acted like somebody I would want to date. Or in other words, somebody I might start "liking". But whenever I did choose a girl like that, well then I too can say that yes it was harder to cum, and yet the sessions were much more emotionally satisfying because they were more like lovemaking (like having sex with a girlfriend) versus straight PSE sex (hard anal pounding, CIM and so forth). So, I'd say there were some trade-offs of sorts. Which type of experience a monger will value more varies with each individual monger.
But for me in the end when orgasm was indeed achieved with a girlfriend type, well I always felt like it was valued and appreciated more by me too because of the emotional lovemaking aspect to it. Like somebody in one of these forums explained before. You "enjoy" a girlfriend (GFE). But you "use" a tute (PSE). This is the difference between the two, and perhaps is the reason why so many men prefer the GFE over the PSE. Now, if it starts to get even more difficult for PSE sessions to do the trick for me like they once used to, then maybe I will try more GFEs and see how that works for me. I have to tell you. Both blonde girls earlier this week were hot according to my tastes, but the second one really did it for me with her GFE words and actions. She DFK'd me so passionately that she gave me a "hickey of the tongue" LOL! I cannot wait to again pleasure myself (and her too) between her tender willing and waiting spread open legs. Wednesday night! Yes sir here I "cum" my darling! Hahahaha!
Cane. Yes, sometimes I have the same experience. But it can be fun: when I do eventually come the girl can be so delighted that she high fives and jumps round the room.
A lot of it is in the head. I can be with a lovely girl and not come, but then an hour later another girl does the job no problem. Usually the more I like the girl as a person the longer it takes: guess I have some weird subconscious. A girl massaging my mind by saying she wants my babies would work well for me as well.Well, if you like her so much that she makes you nervous, that can make it harder to cum if the chemistry is a bit weired and you mix in an awkward way. Had that as well, but I think its more if you both are certain types of people.
Well, if you like her so much that she makes you nervous, that can make it harder to cum if the chemistry is a bit weired and you mix in an awkward way. Had that as well, but I think its more if you both are certain types of people.I feel cane what he means. Once I met this beauty, and she just is super model teen type and very passionate session provider who does all I ask and I began to have how can such an angel do these dirty thing and dirty job. I know it contradict my hobby and interest of mongering but I felt this way, but it was my feeling, back then my dick worked super hard LOL.
Now it is on and off and I do not like this, I will give shot at spot use of 5 MG cialis daily only during my FKK trip to see if it fix my problem of my dick going weak during sessions after sessions.
My problem also maybe got to do with daily Arginine supplement I have been taking for three years now. I stopped few weeks ago as I was afraid I built tolerance to Arginine supplement?
So all experience monger has each their own problem, I hope all our problem get fixed and we are back in saddle like a real rodeo star LOL.
MJ may heighten your pleasure senses but it makes it much more difficult to orgasm. The research is older but here it is:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2009.01453.x/abstract
https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2009/article/cannabis-plays-havoc-with-mens-orgasms
OK guys, how about using legally tolerated herbs in Germany like Mary the Jane?
I love how it increase my senses during sex.
Pistons, I didn't say or imply I was nervous. In fact it's the opposite.
The Cane. Exactly so for me also. Well explained. PSE is more reliable as a potential come inducer, genuine GFE much less so, but when it does it is something rather special.
Hi Guys,
I know Certain Country Passport Holders enjoy a free visa entry in the Schengen Zone, My question is to Mr. Ho and other FKK Mongerer's from the United States, even with the free visa I am sure you would be getting asked at the German Immigration Counter at the Airport, your purpose of Visit to Germany, what do you guys say in that case as the purpose of your visit? That too if you are going in the next 3 months, every quarter or so? Or if someone is going every month? What do you guys say to the immigration officials as your purpose of visit? Or do they just let you off without asking anything further. With United States Passport etc.
Banana Boi
07-18-16, 12:31
No German border check guy has ever said anything to me. The only time was the cute German female officer who said next time do not use the "EU passport only" line but she still put me through with a big smile on her face, knowing I saw her and went to her line not reading the signs above.
TorrentChief
07-18-16, 13:14
Hi Guys,
I know Certain Country Passport Holders enjoy a free visa entry in the Schengen Zone, My question is to Mr. Ho and other FKK Mongerer's from the United States, even with the free visa I am sure you would be getting asked at the German Immigration Counter at the Airport, your purpose of Visit to Germany, what do you guys say in that case as the purpose of your visit? That too if you are going in the next 3 months, every quarter or so? Or if someone is going every month? What do you guys say to the immigration officials as your purpose of visit? Or do they just let you off without asking anything further. With United States Passport etc.I've been using Germany as a central hub for business travel for years and have never had any issues. This is even when I've done same day trips to other EU countries. Questions have always been very standard vacation / business and how long so they can mark your passport with the appropriate dates. In fact having a US passport may makes things go more quickly since there will be far more people in the EU lane than the non EU lane.
To Banana Boi: I think I know that blonde, very good looking and always very friendly.
My question is to other FKK Mongerer's from the United States, even with the free visa I am sure you would be getting asked at the German Immigration Counter at the Airport, your purpose of Visit to Germany, what do you guys say in that case as the purpose of your visit?I'm a US passport holder and am rarely asked anything. One time an old hag of an immigration officer asked me how long I intended to stay. I just answered honestly, and that was it. Although, she did make some joke about not overstaying. Then on one other occasion, a younger male officer asked me what the purpose of my trip was, and where I intended to go in Germany. Again, I answered honestly ("tourism" without noting the "sex" part haha), and said that I intended to remain in Frankfurt. Again, that was it. Those have been the only two times any immigration officer in Germany has ever asked me anything about my trip. Normally, they just stamp me in and I'm done.
Mongers start getting all wound up and tight. Just relax. Be honest and tell the truth. You're not going there to do anything illegal. It's when you start acting all evasive and nervous that the problems will start, and all for no reason. I'm glad you did ask Mr. Ho about this though because he has a funny story from the past where he was stopped and questioned about all the cash he had on him. I'll let him re-tell that scene if he chooses to do so. I will say that Mr. Ho was honest, and the officer amused by his response LOL! Although, we never did find out exactly why Mr. Ho was more closely questioned in the first place. That was something I did want to know more about for future reference.
So none of you guys say this honestly that you guys are on sex tourism and here in Frankfurt to visit a FKK?
Didn't Mr. Ho state that he told the immigratoin officers this to their face?
When I travelled to GT first time by train the police approached me and asked about my passport. I told them it's at the hotel and handed over my driver's licence so they could check that I'm EU citizen. They asked me where I'm going and what I'm doing here. I told them I'm going to stop at Kaldenkirchen station and I'm on a holiday. They gave me back my driver's license and wished me a pleasant journey.
Citizen Kane
07-18-16, 17:21
I was asked once despite being from a country that is currently in the EU. I was asked business or pleasure (too easy). I said pleasure. He did a double take (I guess he was thinking, "WTF are you here 4 times a year for pleasure" I said I was visiting friends. He said "In Frankfurt? I said Giessen.
(I guess he was thinking, "WTF are you here 4 times a year for pleasure" I said I was visiting friends. He said "In Frankfurt? I said Giessen.Now you can just tell him you are collecting Pokemon's. LOL.
I have been asked a couple of times why I go to Germany so often. I reply that I love Germany and start listing its scenic and cultural highlights, also adding that it is a much better country than my own. Their response was (unsurprisingly) surprise, and a continued brief discussion about their views. However I didn't mention FKK. I guess they ask pretty much at random and as long as one doesn't give suspicious answers there is no problem.
I have been asked a couple of times why I go to Germany so often. I reply that I love Germany and start listing its scenic and cultural highlights, also adding that it is a much better country than my own. Their response was (unsurprisingly) surprise, and a continued brief discussion about their views. However I didn't mention FKK. I guess they ask pretty much at random and as long as one doesn't give suspicious answers there is no problem.When I used to go to 14 consecutive days FKK trip to Germany, I used to take so many suit case and bags as I was still exploring fine restaurants, so I need fine suits etc. Plus to cook some legally tolerated herb Mary the virgin J, I carry travel cooking pot and pan so I can get more stoned and high LOL.
However, once they stopped my at custom control, and opened my bag and found about 8000 Euro (Max amount I can take out from Japan without declaring) and they were so suspicious of me as they even found bunch of white powder which were Arginine powder and other amino acid powders that are white in color which I used to take on daily basis for bigger penis (Now I stopped as I think daily take of Arginene supplement was the reason why I have weak election now and then, built tolerance throughout years of taking it? Anyone know about this? I told custom officer that it is not what it looks like and they can check the white powders and I told them that money are for FKK which I come few times per year and going to spend it all in FKK, there was moment of silence and custom officers look at each other and began laughing saying I am good tourist and let me go LOL If they found me with big cash all in 10,20, 50 euro at custom of Germany I will tell them with the same thing at least next time they will find me with a lot of cash and a lot of Cialis LOL.
I do not tell people around me beside my closest friend about FKK, but I am open to some strangers about what I do for hobby LOL In a way I do this for living as prostitutes are my motivation to make money LOL.
I love prostitutes so much that I am hooked to being professional prostitute hunter and I am so proud of how many beautiful girls I fucked around the world LOL.
Does anyone know about your body tolerance to Arginene supplement if you take it daily? When I first took arginine supplement my dick was so expanded and felt effect, but now I think I built tolerance for it. And I think daily consumption of arginine supplement was the reason for my weak election due to building bigger arginine receptor in my body as I sued to take 5 gram every day to support my sex life? Is this accurate do you think? And daily arginine supplement can lead to weak election as it was long term daily use of three years.
Now I stopped all supplement beside vitamin see and I will only spot use arginene and also Cialis only during the FKK trip in Germany.
I think Arginine as natural as it can closely get are like cialis of Viagra, if you take it on daily basis, your body get used to it and require more amount, and if you do not provide more then your election will be weak, but one can spot use it for short period of time like FKK trip few times per year to increase the quality of the trip.
Mr Ho. I love your description of the customs' reaction. Made my day :)
I think in future, there will be perfect medicine which are like modified much better versions of cialis Viagra Levitra.
I never took them yet, but I am looking forward to taking it and I think it will open new doors to fucking more and more prostitutes in Germany.
Beautiful working girls are best and FKK is the garden of Eden LOL.
Mr. Ho since you brought up the topic of Argenine and White powder and this question is to others aswell, I am sure you would have researched on this aswell what do you do to last longer don't tell me Cialis because it can help you stay hard but I am not sure if it can delay your cumming! Or do you naturally last long ? Have you researched in this? Do you have any magic pill? I don't quite like your shower idea doesn't necessarily work out for me LOL!
I think we had some discussion here before about the super thin (and expensive) Japanese condom brand called Sagami. I had bought some several months ago and used them on a mongering trip with mixed results. I say "mixed" because sometimes (about half the time) they were just too hard to put on and were wasted without being used, even the so-called larger size. But at the same time, man when I did get one on boy could I feel the difference! I have a very small stash of these expensive Sagamis left, and decided I would try to use them only with "special" girls, the ones who turn me on the most and who I want to feel everything with.
Broke one out last night with a cute little morena I been fucking, and man the feeling was incredible! Felt so fucking good to the both of us in what was a GFE session back at my hotel that I didn't even want any anal hahaha! So you know it had to be good LOL! That young, tight pussy just felt way too good with only the thin, thin Sagami on my dick. She was telling me how it felt like we were barebacking and was hunching her butt up and down wildly up off the bed mattress to get that dick. Needless to say, I didn't have a problem to cum hehehe!
I said I was going to swear off of Sagamis once my supply ran out because the fail rate (getting them on) didn't justify the expense. I'm going to stick with that decision. But, if the manufacturer ever comes up with a super thin Sagami that's a reliable fit for guys with big fat dongs, then I'm in! Expensive pricing be damned!
Mr. Ho since you brought up the topic of Argenine and White powder and this question is to others aswell, I am sure you would have researched on this aswell what do you do to last longer don't tell me Cialis because it can help you stay hard but I am not sure if it can delay your cumming! Or do you naturally last long ? Have you researched in this? Do you have any magic pill? I don't quite like your shower idea doesn't necessarily work out for me LOL!This is very important topic that should be debate seriously and come to our conclusion for all of our enhancement for fucking beautiful prostitute.
This is my full experience. About three years ago, I met this prostitute in Artemis, I loved her service and I decided to take her like few times per day like 5 times, but I wanted to take her for more times as I can than 5 times to rooms.
So I decided to enable that, I went to pharmacy to buy something. Now back then I did not do enough research so I asked at Pharmacy for natural enhancement to have more sex and they recommended me taking Arginine supplement. So I bought most expensive Arginine supplement they have and it was like 85 euro for 120 capsule of Arginine. I was 33 back then.
I never had problem getting election and could do about three rooms, arguably even five rooms before meeting arginine supplement, I have relatively big penis using size L or XL for condom depending on the nation I am in and I got no problem cumming even seven times (After 3 times nothing will come out but I still have orgasm like the same as first time), it is just that I began to have weak election during sex. Especially after two or three times. And I am not fat, and I do jogging everyday and am in good shape and now age 36. So this is my pre condition before arginine supplement and it was pretty normal.
Now, so I took this Arginine capsule that I bought according to instruction and wow I never felt any supplement working, but arginine was great! I had amazing few more days of FKK, doing 5 to 7 rooms no problem with steroid level election, but like real muscle vein steroid level my penis about to burst election and when I cum it felt like universe burst in my penis, arginine supplement worked amazingly. After few days of FKK, I went back to my home nation, and I stopped taking arginine, but my penis was still always up in morning when I wake up, so I had to jerk off like crazy.
So I researched on arginine and it says it is good to take daily and since it worked so good, I decided let take this arginine every day like 3 to 5 gram in powder format. So I began taking it on daily basis. , well then after about two or three month Arginine lost effect on my body, but I kept on taking it. Then next year I went back to FKK trip and no matter even I take arginine I began to have weak election during my second session. I can only do one room fine. I still forced my self to do it, but with weak election it get harder and harder as rooms piles up. Contrary to last year when I first took arginine supplement, my penis got even weaker and I cannot even do two rooms with strong election. At least I have to focus so hard to keep it up after like 20 minute. (During BJ it stand up quite strong, but when I am humping her it loses strength).
Then I began really researching and think about it and realize it must be Arginine that caused me this problem. So after three years of taking arginine, I finally stopped few weeks ago.
I spoke to body builder about it and he told me that if you stop arginine supplement for one month or more you know take a break from daily consumption for one month, then start taking it, you can feel the powerful affect again.
I still do not have full answer if one can build arginine tolerance or your arginine receptors in body get bigger so you need more and more arginine to satisfy the body if you take arginine supplement on daily basis for long time?
If you have some opinion or knowledge please let us discuss.
As for now, I stopped taking argnine supplement and I will only take arginine supplement only when I am on FKK trip with 5 MG cialis next time. I did love the time arginine really worked on me when I first took it, so when I am at FKK I want that back, so I will make sure of these supporter even I need or not to boost and maxmize my sex experience during my FKK trip, but I will only take them during the trip and not on daily or weekly basis. I like to hope and I think this way will not only fix my problem but will give me back the crazy election I had first time I took arginine. It was real steroid muslce vein and crazy cum, but that was only first few weeks. I loved it, it was best and I want that back.
BackpackBrian
07-20-16, 04:48
I think we had some discussion here before about the super thin (and expensive) Japanese condom brand called Sagami. I had bought some several months ago and used them on a mongering trip with mixed results. I say "mixed" because sometimes (about half the time) they were just too hard to put on and were wasted without being used, even the so-called larger size. But at the same time, man when I did get one on boy could I feel the difference! I have a very small stash of these expensive Sagamis left, and decided I would try to use them only with "special" girls, the ones who turn me on the most and who I want to feel everything with.
Broke one out last night with a cute little morena I been fucking, and man the feeling was incredible! Felt so fucking good to the both of us in what was a GFE session back at my hotel that I didn't even want any anal hahaha! So you know it had to be good LOL! That young, tight pussy just felt way too good with only the thin, thin Sagami on my dick. She was telling me how it felt like we were barebacking and was hunching her butt up and down wildly up off the bed mattress to get that dick. Needless to say, I didn't have a problem to cum hehehe!
I said I was going to swear off of Sagamis once my supply ran out because the fail rate (getting them on) didn't justify the expense. I'm going to stick with that decision. But, if the manufacturer ever comes up with a super thin Sagami that's a reliable fit for guys with big fat dongs, then I'm in! Expensive pricing be damned!Have you tried the Aoni XL? They are Chinese, but claim to be the thinnest in the world.
I think we had some discussion here before about the super thin (and expensive) Japanese condom brand called Sagami. I had bought some several months ago and used them on a mongering trip with mixed results. I say "mixed" because sometimes (about half the time) they were just too hard to put on and were wasted without being used, even the so-called larger size.When you say it was hard to put on as in you could not get it on? If so why? Any particular reason?
And is this thinner than even the Durex Ultra Thin one's ?
When you say it was hard to put on as in you could not get it on? If so why? Any particular reason? And is this thinner than even the Durex Ultra Thin one's ?Dude,
What part of this do you not get? The Sagamis don't fit me very well. And that's because I have a big, fat dick! The length is OK, but not the width. Plenty of guys here who have used Sagamis have had that same problem with them, even when using the large or L size (apparently you really don't have to be that big to have trouble putting them on). What we need now is an extra large size or XL. And yes, they are thinner than the thinnest Durex brand. Do some searches and then RTFF before asking questions man. I see you asking questions all over the place that are easily answered if you would just do some research using the information already available here on the site.
I have relatively big penis using size L or XL for condom depending on the nation I am in .I thought you were asian? Maybe you have small hands, anything in a small hand looks big, relatively speaking. You can 'use' anything for a condom, doesn't mean that its the right size. My dick looks small when I use a bag from a loaf of bread, getting the crumbs out is crucial. It works in a pinch but the fit is anything but snug.
Have you tried the Aoni XL? They are Chinese, but claim to be the thinnest in the world.Aoni condoms are the world's thinnest condoms "made of latex". But, they are not thinner than the Japanese Sagami, which is made of a different material (polyurethane):
http://learn.condomdepot.com/2014/02/28/alright-whats-really-the-worlds-thinnest-condom/
I thought you were asian? Maybe you have small hands, anything in a small hand looks big, relatively speaking. You can 'use' anything for a condom, doesn't mean that its the right size. My dick looks small when I use a bag from a loaf of bread, getting the crumbs out is crucial. It works in a pinch but the fit is anything but snug.Yeah, I am, but Sagami Size L do not fit me, I can force my self in and length is OK, but width is too thin for me, so I need XL size to be out, but even in Japan, there is no XL for Sagami. And there is no not even XL for 0.02 mm from Sagami. Aoni seems interesting but hmmm Chinese product are always not good so. But there is XL for Aoni.
BackpackBrian
07-21-16, 04:00
Aoni condoms are the world's thinnest condoms "made of latex". But, they are not thinner than the Japanese Sagami, which is made of a different material (polyurethane):
http://learn.condomdepot.com/2014/02/28/alright-whats-really-the-worlds-thinnest-condom/I've seen this article, but according to the research I've done and looking at different sites. I believe, but could be wrong, Aoni are the thinnest in the world. They are. 001 vs. 01 Sagami. Aoni now makes a XL.
Dude,
What part of this do you not get? The Sagamis don't fit me very well. And that's because I have a big, fat dick! The length is OK, but not the width. Plenty of guys here who have used Sagamis have had that same problem with them, even when using the large or L size (apparently you really don't have to be that big to have trouble putting them on). What we need now is an extra large size or XL. And yes, they are thinner than the thinnest Durex brand. Do some searches and then RTFF before asking questions man. I see you asking questions all over the place that are easily answered if you would just do some research using the information already available here on the site.Chill Man! This was your personal experience that I was asking to share, how could this experience have been here already posted here even if I did RTFF and some search !
Aoni condoms are the world's thinnest condoms "made of latex". But, they are not thinner than the Japanese Sagami, which is made of a different material (polyurethane):
http://learn.condomdepot.com/2014/02/28/alright-whats-really-the-worlds-thinnest-condom/Anything made of latex will be triple what polyurethane condoms can achieve. Sagami's are 18 microns thick vs Aoni's latex condoms at 36 microns. But the pasante unique condoms are only 15 microns thick (made with synthetic resin AT-10).
BigBuddy69
07-21-16, 21:27
I exploded a Pasante Unique, I really don't trust them! Manix Skyn are good, and the Elite version fits bigger dicks, no need to buy the King Size version, unless you really have the cock of an horse.
I exploded a Pasante Unique, I really don't trust them! Manix Skyn are good, and the Elite version fits bigger dicks, no need to buy the King Size version, unless you really have the cock of an horse.I've had a ton of different condoms break on me but never a Pasante Unique. With a latex condom they stretch and stretch, with these poly type condoms there's no stretching whatsoever. I even tried breaking a Unique condom just to see how much it would take and I actually gave up. I've probably used upwards of 50 of the Unique condoms, how many did you try out BB69?
What is the best condom in Germany that are available in XL size.
JonnySmith
07-21-16, 23:49
It is certainly morally wrong to post photos which identify a girl unless she has given permission. If she already has publicity photos on the Internet, then that would be different.
This will become even more problematic with face recognition technology.
From a selfish point of view, if members post photos then it will get harder to get personal pictures of workers.I agree with you, without girl's consent their photos shouldn't be posted. Personal data protection is becoming very important nowadays in the world, especially in EU.
BigBuddy69
07-22-16, 12:45
I've had a ton of different condoms break on me but never a Pasante Unique. With a latex condom they stretch and stretch, with these poly type condoms there's no stretching whatsoever. I even tried breaking a Unique condom just to see how much it would take and I actually gave up. I've probably used upwards of 50 of the Unique condoms, how many did you try out BB69?Actually it was the first I used in real situation. (I tried one before to see how it unrolls).
I destroyed another one using a Fleshlight.
Besides the Pasante, the only condom that I broke was a London or Condomi in Aca Velbert.
Citizen Kane
07-22-16, 17:27
the only condom that I broke was a London or Condomi in Aca Velbert.You broke a London? Christ! I didn't think that was possible without the aid of a thermonuclear warhead.
Hessen Bub
07-22-16, 18:34
I destroyed another one using a Fleshlight.
A flesh light? What's that? A small dick?
Hope you didn't use the flashlight inside a girl.
HB.
Wolvenvacht
07-22-16, 18:39
A flesh light? What's that? A small dick?
Hope you didn't use the flashlight inside a girl.
HB.http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Fleshlight
Hessen Bub
07-22-16, 18:45
Thanks for enlightening me. I had no idea. ;)
HB.
Member #4581
07-22-16, 21:26
Unrelated topic, but I hope none of the ISG members were caught in the Munich rampage. This is the second incident in two weeks now. If I had thought Germany seemed slightly immune as compared to France and Belgium or even the US, now that seems obviously not true.
I suspect one of these days, these killer bastards will strike a FKK club. Not a whole lot of protection, easy to walk in and start shooting and a lot of debauchery from men and women in their eyes.
Hessen Bub
07-22-16, 21:58
They won't find too many virgins there.
HB.
My feelings are with the German people. I have much more I want to say but will leave it.
Solidarity not division and fragmentation.
I thank all the German people who were so kind at the time of the London bombings.
So as expected Allah huakuabah happened in Germany. I really think FKK should put metal detector at the entrance to avoid what happened to Miami Gay club. Seriously EU is at war that we cannot see where shooters or bombers just pop up.
I suspect one of these days, these killer bastards will strike a FKK club. Not a whole lot of protection, easy to walk in and start shooting and a lot of debauchery from men and women in their eyes.Before the 911 attacks, some of the perpetrators were seen on video soliciting prostitutes. They knew their days were numbered and were trying to get one last piece of ass before the end. I hope there are no attacks anywhere in Germany again, but if there are, then maybe the killers will look upon the FKKs as providing that last and final access to a piece of arch before striking out to commit their crimes, as opposed to targeting the FKKs themselves. But as HB has pointed out, they won't be finding any virgins there!
I suspect one of these days, these killer bastards will strike a FKK club. Not a whole lot of protection, easy to walk in and start shooting and a lot of debauchery from men and women in their eyes.It's high time FKKs put doormen at the entrance checking customers for weapons like they do in Brazil or Colombia.
Wolvenvacht
07-23-16, 08:47
I suspect one of these days, these killer bastards will strike a FKK club. Not a whole lot of protection, easy to walk in and start shooting and a lot of debauchery from men and women in their eyes.I doubt it.
Attacking an FKK or other type of brothel might even get the terrorist some level of sympathy from some people in Germany. Plus the reaction of most in Germany would be "Terrible, but as I never go there it doesn't impact on me". Remember, the aim of terrorst attacks is never to bring about sympathy for the terrorists or their cause, but only to cause terror, insecurity and an inappropriate reaction from the authorities to further cause anxiety and restrictive measures and disrupting our wellbeing.
Wolvenvacht
07-23-16, 08:55
It's high time FKKs put doormen at the entrance checking customers for weapons like they do in Brazil or Colombia.That's exactly the wrong reaction and fully plays into the hands of the terrorists.
And futhermore, it will do nothing to avoid an attack. Look at France: Charlie Hebdo even had an armed guard attending the meeting where all those people were killed. France is crawling with police and military and yet they did not stop the attack in Nice. And now Germany: notwithstanding the impressive reaction of the police (they actually did a total lockdown of Munich), the terrorist was able to get a km away from the shopping center and then killed himself.
The only good reaction to these things is to say: "shit happens" and to carry on without any more restrictive measures that serve no purpose. At the same time, one must work to take away the cause of these attacks. The legacy of Bush and Blair is still taking a heavy toll on the world.
That's exactly the wrong reaction and fully plays into the hands of the terrorists.
And futhermore, it will do nothing to avoid an attack. Look at France: Charlie Hebdo even had an armed guard attending the meeting where all those people were killed. France is crawling with police and military and yet they did not stop the attack in Nice. And now Germany: notwithstanding the impressive reaction of the police (they actually did a total lockdown of Munich), the terrorist was able to get a km away from the shopping center and then killed himself.
The only good reaction to these things is to say: "shit happens" and to carry on without any more restrictive measures that serve no purpose. At the same time, one must work to take away the cause of these attacks. The legacy of Bush and Blair is still taking a heavy toll on the world.The Govt are not doing to do anything it might be their plan all along to import rapefugees into Europe in order to create chaos so they can "solve" the problem by even more surveillance of their citizens.
Wolvenvacht
07-23-16, 14:33
The Govt are not doing to do anything it might be their plan all along to import rapefugees into Europe in order to create chaos so they can "solve" the problem by even more surveillance of their citizens.I think you are giving governments too much credit by assuming they are all part of a big conspiracy. A good rule to live by is "Don't subscribe to malice what can be explained by simple iincompetence".
Member #4581
07-23-16, 14:40
I doubt it.
Attacking an FKK or other type of brothel might even get the terrorist some level of sympathy from some people in Germany. Plus the reaction of most in Germany would be "Terrible, but as I never go there it doesn't impact on me". Remember, the aim of terrorst attacks is never to bring about sympathy for the terrorists or their cause, but only to cause terror, insecurity and an inappropriate reaction from the authorities to further cause anxiety and restrictive measures and disrupting our wellbeing.I would have thought too that some targets don't elicit as much public sympathy but I don't think it is driving their target selection in anyway.
The Orlando gay club is a great example. A fraction of the US political right might secretly rejoice in gay killings arguably, or at least be not so sympathetic. That did not stop the crazy scumbag.
It seems they just want to take out a few people. Even 4,5 will do. A club like Sharks is an easy target. One giant room packed on weekend nights, and not many places to hide or exit from. Can do a lot of damage in 2 min.
I also think metal detectors will not work. First, it requires a big expense on the part of the club which brings not a whole of extra revenue, so unless it is mandated by law they are unlikely to do it. They also need someone stationed permanently to monitor that detector booth, another expense. But if a couple of thugs storm the place, they can ram through that station, or jump over the turnstile. Hardly enough to stop such an attack.
I don't think there is any solution, and I think it is just a matter of time.
I would have thought too that some targets don't elicit as much public sympathy but I don't think it is driving their target selection in anyway. The Orlando gay club is a great example. A fraction of the US political right might secretly rejoice in gay killings arguably, or at least be not so sympathetic. That did not stop the crazy scumbag.You took the words right out of my mouth. There may have been a silent minority that secretly rejoiced in what happened in Orlando, but for most Americans we viewed it as a murderous rampage that could have happened to any one of us. A terrorist attack upon one American citizen is viewed as an attack upon all American citizens, regardless of who those Americans are, where they come from, or what their personal lifestyles are. This is how the majority in this country sees it.
For those who might not realize it but Florida is one of the largest conceal carry states, even ahead of Texas. Attacking a place where you know people have to go thru metal detectors will probably have a higher risk of being targeted.
Wolvenvacht
07-23-16, 15:45
I would have thought too that some targets don't elicit as much public sympathy but I don't think it is driving their target selection in anyway.
The Orlando gay club is a great example. A fraction of the US political right might secretly rejoice in gay killings arguably, or at least be not so sympathetic. That did not stop the crazy scumbag.At least some comments indicated that the attacker was a closet gay himself, regularly visited that club withour much "success" and that this really twisted his mind enough to attack it.
Once again, religion at the basis of bad things.
You know what? You know you've been reading this board way too much when you're about to enjoy a beautiful tute and you think, "Oh boy PussyLiccker and Mr. Ho would absolutely fall head over heels in love with this one! Especially Mr. Ho!" LOLOLOL! Ho, I'm talking a girl who is the finest of German stock with long blonde hair, beautiful blue eyes, alabaster white skin, a wonderful smile, a nice shapely butt (I told her it was her "vanilla milkshake" hehehe), and a super cool personality. There's just one problem, which is that you'll have to go to Brazil to have her LOL! An absolute German-Brazilian knockout! Look for my upcoming full report in the Brazilian threads. I wish I could stay here and "wife" this one up Mr. Ho. Become her top patron by outbidding even the Japanese mongers who have lust in their monger hearts for her too.
So, why am I posting this here anyway? Well, it's because I wanted to give an update and close the loop a little bit on our latest thinnest condoms discussion. You see, with this girl I decided that I absolutely needed to try to "go Sagami" with her. I needed to feel as much of her as I possibly could in what turned out to be a great GFE session. At first, she went for one of the other condoms I had brought with me, but I objected and said no let's try this Sagami. I told her that it was a very fine Japanese brand that was sometimes difficult to put on, but I wanted to try. I ached to be in that girl "bare" so to speak. She was so good looking that I felt as if my entire trip would be a failure if I didn't take her Sagami-style.
So, I'm laying back and the gorgeous "Marina" is trying to put the Sagami on my dick. She gets it past the head, but then struggles and wants to give up saying it's just too tight and that The Cane needs a bigger condom. But that's when I took over as failure was not going to be an option! No way, no how! That bastard was going on because I needed to make damn sure I was inside Marina with the feeling of going "bareback" in her body. I struggled with it too, but I got that Sagami on my dick and was rewarded with the biggest nut bust of the entire trip inside of the hottest girl I'd been with according to my tastes. The Sagami was loaded full of seed when I pulled out of the striking German-Brazilian girl going by "Marina".
She asked me if it was good. Uuhh yeah that expensive, high-quality pussy was good! Sagamis! When there's a fail (about 50% of the time for me), it really sucks. But when you get one of them on, man oh man is it ever worth it! Every last single pleasurable stroke while looking down at the pretty face enjoying the good feeling herself too! And especially when you're banging a chick as hot as Marina is. Whew! Making me re-think my stance on purchasing more Sagamis. Mr. Ho, maybe you can write in to the company in Japan and give them some customer feedback. Make an XL size dudes! Damn! I wish I didn't have to leave. Sigh! I love you Marina! Uh oh. The Cane is going "soft" LOLOLOL!
Guys,
Is it possible to "miss" one of these girls after seeing her and having sex only one time? Is it normal to feel sad that you know you may never see that girl again? I mean Marina and I, it wasn't just sex. We spent a lot of time talking about life, love, politics and everything. She told me some very personal things about her life. I really enjoyed her. Well, maybe it's all just for the best. These girls are prostitutes who pleasure many men from around the globe. Maybe I'm just a monger feeling a need for a little love.
Guys,
Is it possible to "miss" one of these girls after seeing her and having sex only one time?Yes. It has happened to me quite a few times. Usually I would session 4 or 5 girls and one would linger in my mind for the rest of the evening. I would drive back to my hotel and tuck myself to bed thinking this girl could be here if she were MY girl. I keep thinking if marriage were not such a bad deal for men that would be the girl I'd be marrying etc. I reflect upon my bachelor's life and its lonesomeness.
By next morning it's all forgotten though and I'm happy again to be a bachelor and a free man.
Hessen Bub
07-23-16, 19:28
The Govt are not doing to do anything it might be their plan all along to import rapefugees into Europe in order to create chaos so they can "solve" the problem by even more surveillance of their citizens.That from my pov is BS. Munich by the way was a rampage of a mentally sick 18 year old and had no relation at all to refugees or Islam.
HB.
She asked me if it was good. Uuhh yeah that expensive, high-quality pussy was good! Sagamis! When there's a fail (about 50% of the time for me), it really sucks. But when you get one of them on, man oh man is it ever worth it! Every last single pleasurable stroke while looking down at the pretty face enjoying the good feeling herself too! And especially when you're banging a chick as hot as Marina is. Whew! Making me re-think my stance on purchasing more Sagamis. Mr. Ho, maybe you can write in to the company in Japan and give them some customer feedback. Make an XL size dudes! Damn! I wish I didn't have to leave. Sigh! I love you Marina! Uh oh. The Cane is going "soft" LOLOLOL!Sagamis are now marketed by a German firm, here:
https://www.amazon.de/Billy-Boy-sensitive-Kondome-latexfrei/dp/B00B7G4EHQ
They're available at Mueller's, at Real's and in other supermarkets. In fact they're catching on.
I suspect many girls feel safer with a German brand (Billyboy) and will be less reluctant than if you propose to use the Japanese original. I let them satisfy themselves that the condom is not elastic and that it it better if I put it on myself especially if the girl has very long nails. It usually works. Getting it on is a hassle but once it's on it's a different world altogether.
That from my pov is BS. Munich by the way was a rampage of a mentally sick 18 year old and had no relation at all to refugees or Islam.
HB.Media reported earlier that witnesses claimed the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar" and now the police are claiming that he was troubled, no terrorist ties but inspired by Anders Breivik the Norwegian gunman. There are no proof yet just speculation from their part (his parents were asylum seekers in the 90's).
From my pov the Govt (Merkel) is desperate to divert this incident away from refugees / muslims bc it seems people are starting to get tired of this mess she created.
The police tried to cover up / lie about the magnitude of the Cologne incident but couldn't bc of too many eye witnesses and recently a girl got an abortion due to the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).
Citizen Kane
07-23-16, 20:42
Media reported earlier that witnesses claimed the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar" and now the police are claiming that he was troubled, no terrorist ties but inspired by Anders Breivik the Norwegian gunman. There are no proof yet just speculation from their part (his parents were asylum seekers in the 90's).
A young guy (Muslim / of Muslim decent) was inspired by Anders Breivik whose mass shooting was in protest at the islamification of Europe.
Hessen Bub
07-23-16, 20:53
Witnesses saw gunmen with long rifles. They saw three attackers. They saw people shooting in Munich city center. There were about 4,000 false alarms. So much for witnesses.
HB.
Citizen Kane
07-23-16, 20:58
Sagamis are now marketed by a German firm, here:
https://www.amazon.de/Billy-Boy-sensitive-Kondome-latexfrei/dp/B00B7G4EHQ
They're available at Mueller's, at Real's and in other supermarkets. In fact they're catching on.
I suspect many girls feel safer with a German brand (Billyboy) and will be less reluctant than if you propose to use the Japanese original. I let them satisfy themselves that the condom is not elastic and that it it better if I put it on myself especially if the girl has very long nails. It usually works. Getting it on is a hassle but once it's on it's a different world altogether.I think the really expensive Sagami's or Okamota's are the 001's which are 15 micron (interesting rounding) where as the 002's (like Billyboy) are actually 25 micron, a damn sight cheaper plus you can actually get them on, which is always a bonus with a condom.
Protex Originals 0. 02 seem to be exactly the same as the Billyboy Sensitive but are cheaper in my neck of the woods.
PussyLiccker
07-23-16, 21:27
You know what? You know you've been reading this board way too much when you're about to enjoy a beautiful tute and you think, "Oh boy PussyLiccker and Mr. Ho would absolutely fall head over heels in love with this one! Especially Mr. Ho!" LOLOLOL! Ho, I'm talking a girl who is the finest of German stock with long blonde hair, beautiful blue eyes, alabaster white skin, a wonderful smile, a nice shapely butt (I told her it was her "vanilla milkshake" hehehe), and a super cool personality. There's just one problem, which is that you'll have to go to Brazil to have her LOL! An absolute German-Brazilian knockout! Look for my upcoming full report in the Brazilian threads. I wish I could stay here and "wife" this one up Mr. Ho. Become her top patron by outbidding even the Japanese mongers who have lust in their monger hearts for her too. You were talkin about tutes from Brazil the whole time? LOL. Anyway, I've ran across something about where the models in Brazil are scouted. Supposedly, there is a melting pot of varying nationalities in southern part in Brazil. That's where talent scouts go out to find young girls with potentials.
I'd assume the high looker types would not be working in Termas, and low chance to run into them if they do. I'm talkin about the exhotic looking types resulted from melting pot. At some point, Victoria's secret model roster explosed with Brazilian tutes. Alessandra Ambrosio (Italian, Polish), and others of Italian, German, or mixtures.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/world/americas/08models.html?_r=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlUHx4h5zxw
This article is about a talent scout that targets small towns in southern Brazil due to the melting pot of Europeans in the area.
So yeah, this peaked my interest a bit, as it shows evidance of Europeans out there as well (possibility of mixed with Europeans as well). I was considering a trip to Brazil. Not sure how the scene is like currently. If you have some good intel, please do share.
UltraHappy
07-23-16, 21:32
I think the really expensive Sagami's or Okamota's are the 001's which are 15 micron (interesting rounding) where as the 002's (like Billyboy) are actually 25 micron, a damn sight cheaper plus you can actually get them on, which is always a bonus with a condom.
Protex Originals 0. 02 seem to be exactly the same as the Billyboy Sensitive but are cheaper in my neck of the woods.I enjoyed watching this YouTube video showing the process by which Billy Boy condoms are manufactured: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNvA5Lxgz9Q#t=379.
The testing process is something else. Some of their spot tests require that the condom be blown up to a volume of 18 Liters before bursting. Their stretch test requires that the condom be able to withstand stretching of at least 700% before tearing!
The blow tests start at 4 minutes into the video if you want to fast-forward to that part (no, not that kind of blow tests).
I'll see if I can find some of these during my next trip, just to try them out.
You know what? You know you've been reading this board way too much when you're about to enjoy a beautiful tute and you think, "Oh boy PussyLiccker and Mr. Ho would absolutely fall head over heels in love with this one! Especially Mr. Ho!" LOLOLOL! Ho, I'm talking a girl who is the finest of German stock with long blonde hair, beautiful blue eyes, alabaster white skin, a wonderful smile, a nice shapely butt (I told her it was her "vanilla milkshake" hehehe), and a super cool personality. There's just one problem, which is that you'll have to go to Brazil to have her LOL! An absolute German-Brazilian knockout! Look for my upcoming full report in the Brazilian threads. I wish I could stay here and "wife" this one up Mr. Ho. Become her top patron by outbidding even the Japanese mongers who have lust in their monger hearts for her too.
So, why am I posting this here anyway? Well, it's because I wanted to give an update and close the loop a little bit on our latest thinnest condoms discussion. You see, with this girl I decided that I absolutely needed to try to "go Sagami" with her.This Brazil thing is killing me because from where I am based. It is almost 24 hours flight and more with connection flight But I know that one day I will get so horny enough that I will go on missionary mission to Brazil to crave some anal of Brazilian beauty, anything for good sex with beauties LOL.
Man this Sagami thing is killing me as width do not fit me! Length for me is OK as well and I always loved how girls get amazed with packaging of Sagami Anyways, there are no XL size even here, so we can forget about it and find another solution.
As far as I know, Billy boy condom is Sagami franchised out to Germany? If, so Billy boy has XL size condom with at least 0. 02 mm? Or are there any good condom that I can buy in Germany that is 0. 02 and available in XL?
I always use condoms girls provide and it is like a Berlin wall LOL.
Next time I am bringing Cialis and my thin condoms LOL.
I'd assume the high looker types would not be working in Termas, and low chance to run into them if they do. I'm talkin about the exotic looking types resulted from melting pot. This article is about a talent scout that targets small towns in southern Brazil due to the melting pot of Europeans in the area. So yeah, this peaked my interest a bit, as it shows evidance of Europeans out there as well (possibility of mixed with Europeans as well). I was considering a trip to Brazil. Not sure how the scene is like currently. If you have some good intel, please do share.Yeah, this girl was not found in a terma, but in the most high-quality puta palace in Sao Paulo called "Scandallo". She is from Curitiba, which is indeed in southern Brazil. I banged several others from the south as well. This is what I tried to tell you before. Brazil has some gorgeous, gorgeous "brancas" or white girls if this is what you like. The best palaces were packed with Japanese men too Ho, but these could have been mostly Japanese Brazilians as there are many of those. PL, I will be doing a trip report that will be packed with information, including the best places to go for the hottest brancas who will make you fall in love! It will take a while to write because there is a lot, so it will be long. Keep your eyes posted over the next couple of weeks. Ciao!
You were talkin about tutes from Brazil the whole time? LOL. Anyway, I've ran across something about where the models in Brazil are scouted. Supposedly, there is a melting pot of varying nationalities in southern part in Brazil. That's where talent scouts go out to find young girls with potentials.
I'd assume the high looker types would not be working in Termas, and low chance to run into them if they do. I'm talkin about the exhotic looking types resulted from melting pot. At some point, Victoria's secret model roster explosed with Brazilian tutes. Alessandra Ambrosio (Italian, Polish), and others of Italian, German, or mixtures..This is why I welcome refugees in Germany, for the LU of FKK.
We may face bombing, shooting and so on, but LU of FKK is most important thing for Pro mongers, so all these chaos are worth the risk to better the LU of FKK in Germany.
Merkel did not think about FKK when she welcomed 1 million refugees from afghan, Syria etc, but she did mongers a favor to provide flavor to the future LOL.
A lot of beauties I fucked in German FKK are half exotic nations and half German. Sometimes half are from Islamic nation with tanned skin to give chocolate flavor and some are Russian or some other white race mixed with German blood etc.
Cocktail girls are the best and even in Japan I almost only fuck Eurasians.
Only went to Bomboa while in Sao Paolo. I saw a girl that facially looked like Janine (FKK Sharks). 20 years old 165 cm. But thin relative long legs. Ass was big compared to the rest of her body!! Decided against taking her.
Cocktail girls are the best and even in Japan I almost only fuck Eurasians.There is a famous Japanese (mixed) model from Sao Paolo. Aline Nakashima.
There is a famous Japanese (mixed) model from Sao Paolo. Aline Nakashima.I just googled her and she looks exotic too.
In Germany I enjoy fucking half German and half Arab or north African back ground girls. Also I even found half black and half German girls who are beauties (found two so far in about years of FKK trip).
I normally love blonde or brunette with blue or brown eyes, but once in awhile I love those beautiful exotic hybrid girls I find in German FKK! Thanks to immigration policy of Germany. We mongers make sure we do not get bombed or shot while we are in Germany.
BackpackBrian
07-24-16, 04:56
I would have thought too that some targets don't elicit as much public sympathy but I don't think it is driving their target selection in anyway.
The Orlando gay club is a great example. A fraction of the US political right might secretly rejoice in gay killings arguably, or at least be not so sympathetic. That did not stop the crazy scumbag.
It seems they just want to take out a few people. Even 4,5 will do. A club like Sharks is an easy target. One giant room packed on weekend nights, and not many places to hide or exit from. Can do a lot of damage in 2 min.
I also think metal detectors will not work. First, it requires a big expense on the part of the club which brings not a whole of extra revenue, so unless it is mandated by law they are unlikely to do it. They also need someone stationed permanently to monitor that detector booth, another expense. But if a couple of thugs storm the place, they can ram through that station, or jump over the turnstile. Hardly enough to stop such an attack.
I don't think there is any solution, and I think it is just a matter of time.Jnpr, only an ignorant would think, on any level, that the killing of innocent people, gay or straight would lead to secret rejoicing by the right! This attitude is a direct result of liberal manipulation in its members. You need to start thinking on your own!
You were talkin about tutes from Brazil the whole time? LOL. Anyway, I've ran across something about where the models in Brazil are scouted. Supposedly, there is a melting pot of varying nationalities in southern part in Brazil. That's where talent scouts go out to find young girls with potentials.
I'd assume the high looker types would not be working in Termas, and low chance to run into them if they do. I'm talkin about the exhotic looking types resulted from melting pot. At some point, Victoria's secret model roster explosed with Brazilian tutes. Alessandra Ambrosio (Italian, Polish), and others of Italian, German, or mixtures..Where do we find these high model level lookers?
I hear you may find it in Babylon Vienna and Babylon Salzberg, both in Austria and apparently has model level line up with good service. Is this accurate information?
Over 1 million refugees were accepted to Germany in 2015 alone!
Imagine the such a diverse FKK line up in future. Merkel secured current mongers exotic line up for our older days.
With 5 MG Cialis on my hand, I am going to multiple cum shot them like a machine LOL.
The Rambo of German FKK!
PussyLiccker
07-24-16, 05:45
There is a famous Japanese (mixed) model from Sao Paolo. Aline Nakashima.The most famous multi-ethnic Brazailian model with Japanese mixture has to be Adriana Lima. She is Afro-Brazilian of Indigenous, Swiss, Japanese, African, and West Indian ancestry. Very exotic looks. You can see the different mix of features on her face. She has the cutest smile with devilish eyes. Hehe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oT96wTfmaE
The most famous multi-ethnic Brazailian model with Japanese mixture has to be Adriana Lima. She is Afro-Brazilian of Indigenous, Swiss, Japanese, African, and West Indian ancestry. Very exotic looks. You can see the different mix of features on her face. She has the cutest smile with devilish eyes. Hehe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oT96wTfmaEThere was a Romanian girl in Artemis called Loredana, who looked like ugly version of Adriana Lima LOL.
OK Loredana was good looking girl, but not the level of Adriana Lima LOL.
PussyLiccker
07-24-16, 17:46
Where do we find these high model level lookers?
I hear you may find it in Babylon Vienna and Babylon Salzberg, both in Austria and apparently has model level line up with good service. Is this accurate information?Depends on what look is defined as model level. There are two types. Skinny catwalk types or commercial models. Commercial models appeal to the mainstream, similarly for I.
You'd have to see for yourself, taste are different.
Isn't Babylon pricing over the top rate wise? What level of looks in the LU warrants that level of pricing? I'd rather opt for some high hottie to show at random clubs or opt for the better pricing per service / optiks than kill my budget with instantly with such a rate. Eye of the beholder if worth it or not.
Higher the rate with session level uncertainty, bigger the gamble.
I heard good things about Vienna GT lately, but service is more hit or miss there I think.
Jnpr, only an ignorant would think, on any level, that the killing of innocent people, gay or straight would lead to secret rejoicing by the right! This attitude is a direct result of liberal manipulation in its members. You need to start thinking on your own!If you had met the extreme Right I have met you would agree that a fraction of the Right celebrates murder of gays, liberals, abortion doctors, compassionate politicians and so on.
Just as nutters on the extreme Left, or extreme Fundamentalists celebrate the murder of their "enemies".
I don't think it's helpful to say that people like me are "ignorant" , manipulated and not thinking on my own. I appreciate you felt the Right was under attack, but Jnpr was only referring to a very few people and was not attacking the Right.
I am sure you wrote your note in haste and didn't mean it to be as rude as it was.
Cheers
Member #4581
07-24-16, 19:15
Jnpr, only an ignorant would think, on any level, that the killing of innocent people, gay or straight would lead to secret rejoicing by the right! This attitude is a direct result of liberal manipulation in its members. You need to start thinking on your own!I have never voted anyone but GOP in my entire voting life. That said, your reading skills are sorely in need of an upgrade. I said it might happen arguably (and secretly) and you can't prove that never happened. Turning the argument around, Trump claims he saw thousands openly celebrate the towers falling on 9/11 and he got rewarded for the claim with a nomination. Which means a large fraction of population (not brainwashed by liberal media, as you charged) agrees with that claim that killing of innocent people would lead to rejoicing by others in America
Thanks Optimist, you are exactly right! Apologies to others that this debate veered off from FKK topic, but my original point was to highlight my fears about FKK clubs being a target for crazy people.
BackpackBrian
07-24-16, 20:06
If you had met the extreme Right I have met you would agree that a fraction of the Right celebrates murder of gays, liberals, abortion doctors, compassionate politicians and so on.
Just as nutters on the extreme Left, or extreme Fundamentalists celebrate the murder of their "enemies".
I don't think it's helpful to say that people like me are "ignorant" , manipulated and not thinking on my own. I appreciate you felt the Right was under attack, but Jnpr was only referring to a very few people and was not attacking the Right.
I am sure you wrote your note in haste and didn't mean it to be as rude as it was.
CheersYou are ignorant because if in fact you did meet some people as you claim!, that want to kill, murder, etc, etc, I can assure you it has nothing to do with being a Republican or being right wing. In fact, it's the opposite, remember, Republicans are pro life, not pro choice like your left wing party! Anyone can claim they "met" people who are from some group and they believe in murder, killing, etc. But I can assure you there are no more people like that on the right side then the left!
Maybe my post was in haste, but listening to ignorance spew out in a thread warrants some type of correction.
BackpackBrian
07-24-16, 20:25
I have never voted anyone but GOP in my entire voting life. That said, your reading skills are sorely in need of an upgrade. I said it might happen arguably (and secretly) and you can't prove that never happened. Turning the argument around, Trump claims he saw thousands openly celebrate the towers falling on 9/11 and he got rewarded for the claim with a nomination. Which means a large fraction of population (not brainwashed by liberal media, as you charged) agrees with that claim that killing of innocent people would lead to rejoicing by others in America
Thanks Optimist, you are exactly right! Apologies to others that this debate veered off from fkk topic, but my original point was to highlight my fears about fkk clubs being a target for crazy people.Jnpr,
To merely suggest something such as you did, is to implicate a certain party. It doesn't matter if you voted for the GOP in the past or not, you're stereotyping.
And to correct you on the Trump statement, I did in fact see some people rejoicing in the streets, like Trump mentioned. It wasn't thousands, it was just a few people, but it was played by Fox news after he made the statement. His statement was exaggerated, but still verified as correct. And lastly, if I understand your last statement about American rejoicing in the streets after 9/11, you assume they were Americans? I don't think I understand what you are trying to say in you last sentence.
You are ignorant because if in fact you did meet some people as you claim!, that want to kill, murder, etc, etc, I can assure you it has nothing to do with being a Republican or being right wing. In fact, it's the opposite, remember, Republicans are pro life, not pro choice like your left wing party! Anyone can claim they "met" people who are from some group and they believe in murder, killing, etc. But I can assure you there are no more people like that on the right side then the left!
Maybe my post was in haste, but listening to ignorance spew out in a thread warrants some type of correction.Wow. That is abuse
I asked you not to call people like me ignorant for having different views to you and then you repeat the insult!. You know nothing about my political affiliations yet attack my ("your" is what you say) leftwing party and launch into a support of the Republicans. By the way, what is my leftwing party?
This is a thread about Germany not US politics.
I do not "claim". I speak the truth about my experience. You use the word "claim" to imply I lie. I do not lie.
What about a bit of tolerance for different views. I respect and like people with all sorts of views, but don't accept abuse.
I went out of my way to make it clear that there were no more nutters on the Right than on the Left. Please read my post and you will see we agree on that.
Maybe we can return to civility and also pass this thread back to the topic of FKK? There are enough nutters in the world without members of this forum arguing with each other.
Depends on what look is defined as model level. There are two types. Skinny catwalk types or commercial models. Commercial models appeal to the mainstream, similarly for I.
You'd have to see for yourself, taste are different.
Isn't Babylon pricing over the top rate wise? What level of looks in the LU warrants that level of pricing? I'd rather opt for some high hottie to show at random clubs or opt for the better pricing per service / optiks than kill my budget with instantly with such a rate. Eye of the beholder if worth it or not.
Higher the rate with session level uncertainty, bigger the gamble.
I heard good things about Vienna GT lately, but service is more hit or miss there I think.Yes, that is what I do at German FKK being couch potato till the stunner walk into main bar and I jump on her from my couch I stationed my ass on for past few hours LOL.
Babylon was highly recommend by my favorite girl who know my type, cat walk model type mainly and she told me there are many girls like so there, but like Globe, she won't work in Baylon as it is hard club to work for girls. As for prices, I think it is like 400 euro per hour LOL That is why I want to make sure it is true about LU and service LOL.
GT Vienna has mixed review, but I believe it is like Artemis, diverted LU and you got maybe 2 or 3 stunners, 3 or 4 hottie and rest are mixed and same with service like Artemis, you may get lucky or you do not kinda thing. I never been to Vienna and I hope GT is at least Artemis level for LU and service as I will change if new law change German FKK, so Vienna is important area that I cannot lose for us mongers! Man it is like war strategy LOL LOL.
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07-24-16, 21:42
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My view is the best and simple. Legalize prostitution and legalize herb called M Jane LOL.
Well as long as they do not raise tax, do not let foreigners in as here we have more advanced robots who do not complain and work 24/7 and as long as I can fuck prostitutes it is fine. I am against most immigration unless refugees are beautiful and prostitute LOL We got robots to work, so all we need is beautiful young prostitute as 99% of prostitutes here are ugly with my standard, I have such a hard time looking for 1% always here, the system is designed to block Mr Ho and fellow pro mongers here LOL.
Now, what bothers me is that most nation prohibit prostitution yet they let the industry do it in grey format. This is killing me as it is not as good as legal state like Germany.
But even they designed the system to block me, they do not that I am professional prostitute hunter, so I always track down the beautiful prostitute and be the Rambo on bed LOL.
Pussy Scouter
07-24-16, 22:54
This guy gives accurate and educated explanation on what's behind the terror attacks in Europe and why it will not stop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ePVxRLDM0
Mongerer88
07-25-16, 01:47
You are a fucking faggot. Go fuck yourself, MF.He never does reviews of actual girls, he just goes from thread to thread asking questions and causing trouble. Just ignore him.
No matter how much politic or society block me and design system to not to allow me fuck most beautiful prostitute in the world. I will be real trooper to fuck many prostitute as I can till the day I die, but I want to doggy fuck most beautiful prostitute in the world with purple haze in my lung right before I go out from this world! LOL!
What supplement I can take to do Bukkake on girl?
Are there anyway I can load crazy amount of cum on daily basis? Holding cumming is excluded idea as I go to FKK on daily basis and want to bukkake on girl with elephant load, I want to cum shot them like drive by.
He never does reviews of actual girls, he just goes from thread to thread asking questions and causing trouble. Just ignore him.Sorry, I'm not clear who you are referring to: I guess, based on the characteristics described above you are talking about PL?
Mongerer88
07-25-16, 17:59
Sorry, I'm not clear who you are referring to: I guess, based on the characteristics described above you are talking about PL?No, I like PL.
It involved a now deleted post.
Ignore it.
When I speak with the older Germany people at the clubs I try to say the same things. I just tell them I'm really interested in their culture and history not just the clubs.
Actually I'm very interested about the WW2 stuff about Finnish and Germany relations. Maybe because my relatives fought in the war and it's still one of the the biggest conflicts what happened in Finland and many people are open to talk about. I'm very interested about what happened on the Eastern front.
But I tell to older Germany people I go to Berlin when I want to do sightseeing and tourist stuff. For the west part of Germany I just come because of the clubs and girls. I hope they don't get offended about that.
In fact I also go to Berlin for the club and girls, but they don't need to know about it and there are so much to see in Berlin.
I have been asked a couple of times why I go to Germany so often. I reply that I love Germany and start listing its scenic and cultural highlights, also adding that it is a much better country than my own. Their response was (unsurprisingly) surprise, and a continued brief discussion about their views. However I didn't mention FKK. I guess they ask pretty much at random and as long as one doesn't give suspicious answers there is no problem.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/26/young-muslims-threaten-nudist-bathers/
This is happened in North Rhine-Westphalia. "Allahu akbar" was yelling.
I think FKK club might face danger next.
Wolvenvacht
07-27-16, 06:56
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/26/young-muslims-threaten-nudist-bathers/
This is happened in North Rhine-Westphalia. "Allahu akbar" was yelling.
I think FKK club might face danger next.Not good indeed, but I'm sure the real threath against our "FKK" lifestyle will come from the christian "do gooders".
Not good indeed, but I'm sure the real threath against our "FKK" lifestyle will come from the christian "do gooders".And certain sorts of intolerant ignorant feminists.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/26/young-muslims-threaten-nudist-bathers/
This is happened in North Rhine-Westphalia. "Allahu akbar" was yelling.
I think FKK club might face danger next.Well European people love middle eastern people, especially Germany, Britain and France. I see more Middle Eastern people than Europeans in many German cities when I am walking down the street.
The thing Europeans do not understand is that, it is not middle eastern mentality to adapt to Europe, it is Europeans who has to adapt to Middle Eastern immigrants. So by accepting them as immigrant. Europeans may consider adapting themselves to middle eastern people or expect some kind of wars in EU LOL.
Anyone got any idea how to find old reports from particular members. I know you can click on their name and get an option to see that person's forum posts, but that only shows maybe about 300 posts. What about the rest?
And certain sorts of intolerant ignorant feminists.Of course, feminist and conservative christian is threat to FKK lifestyle but at least, they will not kill you. There is four terror attacks in one week in Germany. Image that some idiot were refused to enter FKK, than come back with bomb or gun, yelling "Allahu akbar".
Anyone got any idea how to find old reports from particular members. I know you can click on their name and get an option to see that person's forum posts, but that only shows maybe about 300 posts. What about the rest?Yep on users name you find only the last 300 posts. But you can klick on each thread on the number of posts and you get a ranking of the users starting with the most posts. And than you klick on your name (you must wait 60 seconds to do again) and than you find the last 300 posts of this user in this thread. If you have more than 300 posts in one thread than I also don't know how find the rest.
Sebastiane
07-27-16, 15:31
Over 1 million refugees were accepted to Germany in 2015 alone!
Imagine the such a diverse FKK line up in future. Merkel secured current mongers exotic line up for our older days.
With 5 MG Cialis on my hand, I am going to multiple cum shot them like a machine LOL.
The Rambo of German FKK!LOL! That is a funny post but true- I think that they should only let in female refugees over 16 and for males only children under 16 or old men over 60 and no men from 16-60 as they are potential terrorists. This thread isn't about politics but yes women from that region are pretty and I'm sure some of them will end up in FKKs at some point!
I am not sure how long FKK will survive. I hope it does for ever!
Wolvenvacht
07-27-16, 18:19
Of course, feminist and conservative christian is threat to FKK lifestyle but at least, they will not kill you.Tell that to the doctors in abortion clinics in the USA who were shot and killed by fundamentalist christians.
Well European people love middle eastern people, especially Germany, Britain and France. I see more Middle Eastern people than Europeans in many German cities when I am walking down the street.
The thing Europeans do not understand is that, it is not middle eastern mentality to adapt to Europe, it is Europeans who has to adapt to Middle Eastern immigrants. So by accepting them as immigrant. Europeans may consider adapting themselves to middle eastern people or expect some kind of wars in EU LOL.Wtf? Those statements right there are why the conservatives lash back. You want the native people of a land to adapt to guests in their own house! GTFO LOL.
LOL! That is a funny post but true- I think that they should only let in female refugees over 16 and for males only children under 16 or old men over 60 and no men from 16-60 as they are potential terrorists. This thread isn't about politics but yes women from that region are pretty and I'm sure some of them will end up in FKKs at some point!
I am not sure how long FKK will survive. I hope it does for ever!I love girls from middle east, especially the mixed ones with white people like Germans. You find second generation immigrants in FKK and they are real exotic beauty which are nice to taste.
Immigration affect FKK line up due to circumstances that they brought up and hardness of making big cash in this modern society and for them new society called German society that they immigrate to, there is not much I can do, but only thing I can do for them is to cum shot them, even multiple cum shot them LOL.
Mean while terrorists are shooting bullet, I be in FKK multiple cum shot with my machine gun tuned by 5 MG cialis LOL.
Machine gun cum shot like a real Rambo of FKK LOL.
If FKK stops in Germany which I doubt they will, then I will move my cumshots war zone to Switzerland and Austria because I hear that there are plenty of dirty people there who like dirty things LOL.
I was with pistol until now, but from next FKK battle field, I be standing there with 5 MG cialis loaded machine gun, so I won't be just cum shooting, I will machine gun cum shoot them LOL.
Get ready, Rambo of FKK is coming with 5 MG on his hand LOL.
I am going to fuck them listening to Rambo soundtrack with 5 MG in my machine gun dick LOL.
LOL! That is a funny post but true- I think that they should only let in female refugees over 16 and for males only children under 16 or old men over 60 and no men from 16-60 as they are potential terrorists. This thread isn't about politics but yes women from that region are pretty and I'm sure some of them will end up in FKKs at some point!
I am not sure how long FKK will survive. I hope it does for ever!Merkel will always be remembered by me as greatest German chancellor who provided and secured exotic line up for future FKK.
German girls love Middle eastern guys, so let them get together and produce children, and when they turned 18 to 20, I will be waiting for them in FKK to educate them with my 5 MG cialis penis LOL.
I am sure they and also I will learn one thing or two during such a exotic session LOL.
I would say that Christians are not a real threat against our hobby in Germany. Neither are Muslims judging by the clientele of the FKK's.
The threat is feminists.
And I know that there are plenty of good hearted christian Latina in the biz as I've come across a few.
I would say that Christians are not a real threat against our hobby in Germany. Neither are Muslims judging by the clientele of the FKK's.
The threat is feminists.
And I know that there are plenty of good hearted christian Latina in the biz as I've come across a few.You are right, Muslim and Christians are supplier to LU of FKK if you dig deep about this, but this feminist are killing us with new laws regulations etc.
Hi,
I have tried to find some FKK clubs that have ebony girls. Some tips on what clubs I should try?
Just came across this name King George Sex Club in Berlin. It says for 99 Euros all inclusive you can fuck as many girls you want (No extra charge to be paid to the girls). I was just wondering if it is indeed a reality or a clever marketing gimmick? Are there any hidden charges ? How is the quality of girls there when compared to the FKK girls in Frankfurt? Anybody here who has been there can shed some light on it? Is it a value for money? When compared to a FKK or a FKK is more value for money. Will be visitng Germany in the near future so was just thinking if it is more value for money then visitng a FKK in Frankfurt, might worth a visit then. Any thoughts?
Will be visitng Germany in the near future so was just thinking if it is more value for money then visitng a FKK in Frankfurt, might worth a visit then. Any thoughts?What Jooeey, are you not a rich highroller with limitless funds like the rest of the ISGers in the FKK section?? Only Joking BTW, I thought I was the only poor guy looking for value all the time.
I've been to Berlin many times but never to King George, allegedly its shit with women who are really pushy for lady drinks and extras like BBBJ. Caligula is another similar club but the women are supposed to be uglier there. Airport girls is a better flat rate with a 5 hour morning session for 60 eur.
My favs In Berlin are Insomnia Thursday GB for 95 euro, plus Annie Porsche GB for 88 eur.
Reports on all the above in the Partytreff thread and the Berlin thread.
What Jooeey, are you not a rich highroller with limitless funds like the rest of the ISGers in the FKK section?? Only Joking BTW, I thought I was the only poor guy looking for value all the time.
I've been to Berlin many times but never to King George, allegedly its shit with women who are really pushy for lady drinks and extras like BBBJ. Caligula is another similar club but the women are supposed to be uglier there. Airport girls is a better flat rate with a 5 hour morning session for 60 eur.
My favs In Berlin are Insomnia Thursday GB for 95 euro, plus Annie Porsche GB for 88 eur.
Reports on all the above in the Partytreff thread and the Berlin thread.Get a feeling FKK sounds like a safe and a better option. The other two places that you have mentioned also work the same way as King George like All inclusive including Sex?
Get a feeling FKK sounds like a safe and a better option. The other two places that you have mentioned also work the same way as King George like All inclusive including Sex?If you got the money FKK is the way to go no doubt, although I enjoy working on the women in flatrate, with some effort and a good licking I can often turn girls service levels around a bit.
Yes other two places similar to King George in concept.
If you got the money FKK is the way to go no doubt, although I enjoy working on the women in flatrate, with some effort and a good licking I can often turn girls service levels around a bit.
Yes other two places similar to King George in concept.Well I do have limited money and so I am looking the best value that it can buy in that much limited amount but in this case looks like, since I have been to FKK's a couple of times and so I know what it is all about and how it works and what do you get there in terms if quality it would be safe to go with a FKK especially after you said the women there are Pushy to get the extra money out of you to buy them drinks or for a BBBJ! FKK is expensive but gives you what you are looking out for and some of the girls are drop dead gorgeous! Had some one told me that you bet the same quality in King George Club as liver in FKK perhaps I would have given it a thought!
This thread has been busy as of late it seems!
Mr Ho: As much as I like your stance on migration and prostitute hunting, consider the fact that 90% of the 1 million immigrants are men. So 100 000 women, and most if not all of those are married women or small girls below the age of 16. Then where are the excessive 800 000 immigrants from ME / africa that arrived in Germany going to get their pussy? From hookers or by [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) european women on the streets, or by crowding up nightclubs selling drugs or hitting on european women / girls making it harder for european men to get free pussy. Come on, the immigration we saw last year was a complete disaster for the girl scene in europe. And although prostitutes probably will get more work to do because of it, and FKK's might get more customers, the amount of bad clientelle as I just witnessed at Magnum will increase as well. I would vote for a complete ban on male immigration like Canada has. Before that happens I am all for Trump and as radical facist politics as possible to reduce the amount of immigrants from ME and Africa. They have to fix their gendergap first. Only then will I agree to sharing our women with them!
Sharing with SE asians and latinos are fine as it is so easy to get pussy for us in SE asia and latin america. But any region that prohibits prostitution or where they are racist towards us should be banned from comming here too and enjoy women while in europe. We need to be strong and then these guys will be forced to fight for prostitution also in countries like Iran, Iraq, Syria, China (ok, its pretty easy here, but they are too racist), Pakistan etc etc. And stop being whiny pussies trying to impress once they get abroad. While at home they are silent puny dogs afraid to speak up against their religious father who probably thouched them while they were young.
If everyone can just fly abroad to get easy pussy, then the feminists will allways win in the majority of the countries of the world! Men of the world must unite! And all types of religion must burn!
Ok, not a complete ban on sex tourism from these countries as long as they are wealthy, as it does generate cash, but people has to fight for legalizing it all over the world! The immigration from such countries worries me more...
This thread has been busy as of late it seems!
Mr Ho..Hmmm mostly men huh? But when they begin to live in so called lower income area, these guys too fall in love with lower income German girls or other immigrant girls who are also lower income (some are white, mostly Slav), so they produce good looking child, but their parent most likely with divorce because lower income house hold tend to have high divorce rate or at least very shaky in the house life, so when kids turns 18 years old, they begin to have rebellious attitude, and may end up in FKK wanting nice things like car, bags, their own apartment, to be independent from her messed up house hold or support her single mum.
I am not saying refugee automatically come to FKK, what I am saying is that second generation of refugee or immigrants, often end up in FKK as I noticed most of my favorite German girls are second or third generation immigrants.
So whether it is men or women immigrants, they will produce many households in Germany, where they have daughters wanting to change her life, so when she turns 18, she seek for way to make big fast cash to change her life, whether it is support her family or be independent and get her own apartment, or make seed money for university or business idea or for life with boyfriend or whatever, so I am hoping for second generation immigrant as future line up of FKK as most of my favorite girls are second generation of immigrants.
Fortunately, my country offer puntering experience too, and I fuck porn star here or Eurasians, but it is more harder to find and it is a job to find fine ones, plus expensive, therefore, I like going go Germany to FKK because I can see and choose etc. It is simply more simple open format that I like, I feel most of other fly in pro mongers are seeing the similar view on German FKK. As for immigrants, my nation rarely accept refugee and also immigrants and we our selves do not immigrate exception was Brazil, but now Japanese Brazilians are rich as they worked hard and they are bridge between Japan and Brazil, but we rarely immigrate as we do not need to. As for decrease in population we seek to have solution in robot who do not complain and so far they do not go nut like in the movie terminator LOL.
You do know you ask for pussy from others, yet you (the japanese society) hold your japanese pussy harder to obtain for others right? That mentality is partly what I don't like. Yet it is much more so in muslim countries. Now I do like asians much more so than africans because they are more petite, but thats a different story... although it probably does answer the direction racism is pointed. Men in the west points racism towards africa. Women in the west points it towards asia. Women in africa points it to the west and asia. Men in asia points it to the west and africa. Generalised by a large degree ofcourse... but seems statistical. And it is all about pussy, dick, femininity, masculinity etc... these things should be discussed far more in world politics!
And what comes in 18 years from this immigration is still 18 years ahead. And during those 18 years it will be the negative effects I pointed out that will dwarf the positives. I personally like some mixed girls. Yet I don't like all mixed varieties. But I suppose some do.
The best way of foreign affairs would be to legalize prostitution all over the world. And let foreign ambassadors enter brothels abroad... LOL
then when the ambassador comes out of the brothel, he should be interviewed live on TV and asked about how the session went. If she did good work with her bbbj, how the kissing was, if he was allowed to bareback her etc etc... or daty etc if it is a female ambassador... LOL!
You do know you ask for pussy from others, yet you (the japanese society) hold your japanese pussy harder to obtain for others right? That mentality is partly what I don't like. Yet it is much more so in muslim countries. Now I do like asians much more so than africans because they are more petite, but thats a different story... although it probably does answer the direction racism is pointed. Men in the west points racism towards africa. Women in the west points it towards asia. Women in africa points it to the west and asia. Men in asia points it to the west and africa. Generalised by a large degree ofcourse... but seems statistical. And it is all about pussy, dick, femininity, masculinity etc... these things should be discussed far more in world politics!..I agree about legalizing prostitution, I mean it is all done in grey format even though it is not legal, this is so in most nations. So German did right move mixed with liberalism with arguably prompt control.
I never faced racism from western girls in 14 years I lived in EU though, maybe I am more integrated with the material things that I have and my appearance fit in surrounded by finer things and I mingle with more higher income girls etc, but even in FKK, where I have interaction with so called former low income white girls, I never faced racism, and without going to details, I got more service out of some girls. However, I often get some stupid question about ninja and samurai. Whether we still have them or not. I mean Japan is key players in many industries in the world and we are the biggest creditors. Do they really think we did this economical achievement by swinging samurai sword in business meeting and sending ninja to gather information? LOL And this kind of question is mostly from some men and not women actually LOL It is all to do with educational level and also how stylish you are as well because if you are stylish you tend to dig and gather information on new cool things and food etc and a lot are from Tokyo, but if the person is not, then they get usual stereo type of samurai and all that staff. Though I do think we did install samurai spirit so called Bushido into business world after 1945 and in 40 years in 80's, we became the richest, so there are still sign of samurai here, but only in business mentality.
As for Japan being isolated mentality from outsider is that, we tend to have better everything like train system or time, organization, food, service, safety etc. This is partly, sad to admit because of our isolation policy and just do things our way, prompt, correct and honest, with hard working. It has pros and cons, but mostly pros. If we were to accept immigrants, it will not be EU style, we will choose based on what kind of qualification the immigrants has that benefit Japan. But yes we have very isolated mentality and in some cases racist level mentality. But this helped Japan to develop so fast after the war and kept the quality that we have here. Mongering here is not bad and I do fuck good Eurasians porn stars, but it is expensive and also harder to find. So for mongering I do here, but mostly I fly to Europe.
Now ofcourse it would be european women towards asian women. I did forget to point that out. Nobody holds anything against the opposite sex anywhere in the world I think or have noticed. Because everyone wants as much pussy as we can get, lol
And the 'we are best' mentality has its history in europe as well. Nazi Germany to be more precise. While in reality it has much more to do adout which countries were the first to implement capitalism. And which countries had the best backings from the international bankers. Believing something else is an illusion. And it doesnt matter that Japan is the biggest creditor in the world when Japan is also by far the biggest debtor. Aside from that, a colder climate probably makes people more introvert, so that can help in increasing work habits. And a computer works faster in colder climates too. Perhaps the brain also.
The 'on time' part is bullshit. I have seen the rediculous work sceduels for the cleaners at the shinkansen trains. The tasks assigned to the women doing those jobs would never have passed a labor union regulation where I live. Almost like egyptian slavery when they built the pyramids. There is a fine line between work and living, and not every society agrees... capitalism works like a funneling machine and requires there to allways be more loosers than winners. Interest rates on loans makes sure of that. And east asian religions tend to emphasize alot on presentation. So being a 'looser' is worse in east asia than elsewhere in the world. A societal implication that gives capitalism an extremely strong grip over east asia. And it also hurts the fertility rate in east asia in an extreme way. Like the holocaust times 1000. Sometimes you gotta think out of the box... same goes with europe to some degree. Yet here the globalists tries to fix it with immigration because of housing prices and other silly reasons to keep capitalism afloat. Oh, and Japan is not part of the globalists bilderberg group... the guys instagating this recent immigration flow that is...
With all respect to you guys, but IMO, predicting and discussing FKK line up after 18 yrs is CRAZY.
Now ofcourse it would be european women towards asian women. I did forget to point that out. Nobody holds anything against the opposite sex anywhere in the world I think or have noticed. Because everyone wants as much pussy as we can get, lol
And the 'we are best' mentality has its history in europe as well. Nazi Germany to be more precise. While in reality it has much more to do adout which countries were the first to implement capitalism. And which countries had the best backings from the international bankers. Believing something else is an illusion. And it doesnt matter that Japan is the biggest creditor in the world when Japan is also by far the biggest debtor. Aside from that, a colder climate probably makes people more introvert, so that can help in increasing work habits. And a computer works faster in colder climates too...You forgot one important thing, labor law is just a formality in Japan and there is no labor law in reality in Japan LOL You work till you die if you are employed by the company LOL Only way out is getting cash yourself, fortunately I fit into this category, but if you are company men here, you are finished for life LOL.
Yeah, we definitely going to face many problems like all other nations, I think we are beginning to see not end, but limitation of capitalism. However, since gold standard has been abolished, capitalism has been one big fraud anyways LOL.
As for debt part of Japan, we still have control of our central bank and also we issue our bond in our own currency plus it is something like 98% bought by Japanese private sectors, so it is different story here, but there will be moment in future when international bankers will try to play with this issue twisting this reality that we mentioned, well creating chaos is best way and how to to make money, it is all one big fraud LOL.
Anyways let bureaucrats in ministies handle this and I just make cash and fuck many beautiful girls around the globe as much as I can before I die LOL I am in my mid 30's, so I hope to think I have many years ahead LOL.
With all respect to you guys, but IMO, predicting and discussing FKK line up after 18 yrs is CRAZY.Well it is lounge and chat, plus considering I fly half the way around world just to fuck like some other pro mongers kind of categorize me as crazy in so called normal world, so it maybe bit crazy, but it is like food crisis for pro mongers you know LOL we need supplies LOL.
However, it is also part of analyzing who we are fucking with, what going on now with this immigration has been like this but more soft-core for years, that is why I fucked some of exotic beauties that I fucked in FKK due to past immigration, so I just rationally thought this insane mass immigration will result in fanatic FKK or escort line up in future LOL.
If I am alive then believe me I will still be doing them doggy style with 5 MG cialis on my hand high as fuck LOL.
Hi,
Does anyone know which club has many Russian or Ukriane girls?
PussyLiccker
07-30-16, 00:19
Hi,
Does anyone know which club has many Russian or Ukriane girls?You won't find many Russian girls in a single club. There are two I know of in LR, Nora and Lili. GT, Tatiana and Nastia, and another I think. YY, Jane. PHG, there were a few. Samya, Katia. Nora, Jane, and Nastia are Germans with Russian heritage. There are Romies will claim Russian heritage due to their looks. Blond hair, blue eyes.
After 18 yrs of what?Line up at FKK LOL.
It is more of relation between immigration and FKK line up than worrying about line up of FKK after 18 years LOL.
Immigration has effect on FKK line up especially on German girls with such and such heritage aka second generation immigrant.
More important to expand the EU than to take in immigrants really. Thinking line up now.
Or maybe kick our the brits, make them poor, reduce their waistline index to make them rethink their british diet, then hire them into well paying jobs in Germany lol, and then let the brits rejoin...
And in 18 years, it might be time to change to viagra perhaps, or some new superdrug without side effects? Maybe grow a new larger 3 d printed penis first, and new organs to go along with it. Happy hunting too!
Oh, and I rememberred something you asked a few pages back now Ho. How (lol) to extend your erection/orgasm. Try bulgarian tribulus terrensis! You can achieve an up to 1 minute long orgasm using this herb! My record was over 40 seconds once and the girl got this weired look in her eyes as if she had no idea if I was possessed or not... lol
Then again I started getting headaches and turned sick from btt/ta after about a year and a half using it only while on mongering trips. So not going back to it...
More important to expand the EU than to take in immigrants really. Thinking line up now.
Or maybe kick our the brits, make them poor, reduce their waistline index to make them rethink their british diet, then hire them into well paying jobs in Germany lol, and then let the brits rejoin...
And in 18 years, it might be time to change to viagra perhaps, or some new superdrug without side effects? Maybe grow a new larger 3 d printed penis first, and new organs to go along with it. Happy hunting too!
Oh, and I rememberred something you asked a few pages back now Ho. How (lol) to extend your erection/orgasm. Try bulgarian tribulus terrensis! You can achieve an up to 1 minute long orgasm using this herb! My record was over 40 seconds once and the girl got this weired look in her eyes as if she had no idea if I was possessed or not... lol
Then again I started getting headaches and turned sick from btt/ta after about a year and a half using it only while on mongering trips. So not going back to it...This herb is highly interesting, I usually take good old Mary J as it is tolerated in Germany, well I eat them.
Does this Bulgarian herb thing work? I just googled it and I see it supplement format. Does it work rather quickly like if I begin taking it like few days before my FKK trip?
More important to expand the EU than to take in immigrants really. Thinking line up now.
Or maybe kick our the brits, make them poor, reduce their waistline index to make them rethink their british diet, then hire them into well paying jobs in Germany lol, and then let the brits rejoin...
And in 18 years, it might be time to change to viagra perhaps, or some new superdrug without side effects? Maybe grow a new larger 3 d printed penis first, and new organs to go along with it. Happy hunting too!
Oh, and I rememberred something you asked a few pages back now Ho. How (lol) to extend your erection/orgasm. Try bulgarian tribulus terrensis! You can achieve an up to 1 minute long orgasm using this herb! My record was over 40 seconds once and the girl got this weired look in her eyes as if she had no idea if I was possessed or not... lol
Then again I started getting headaches and turned sick from btt/ta after about a year and a half using it only while on mongering trips. So not going back to it...I really want Ukraine in EU! This will elevate lineup of FKK big time, but in reality. , it will be hard due to mother Russia and also their messed up economy, but immigration can be expected.
Citizen Kane
07-30-16, 10:11
More important to expand the EU than to take in immigrants really. Thinking line up now.
Oh yes, the EU is the mongers friend all right. https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2014/feb/26/meps-vote-criminalise-buying-sex-european-parliament.
Give France 10 years with the same model used in scandinavia and France and the bulk in EU will start seeing the negatives of the scandinavian model as well. I just heard some guy mentioning that they have a majority in Norway to legalize brothels there next year, so this scandinavian country is going in the opposite direction. Mainly because of two factors: 1. The amount of internet ads has increased after that legislation in 2009, and 2. Women feeling less safe as it moves prostitution more underground where they are more easily abused by bad customers, and also by their own pimp who sometimes beats them, and I believe one women was killed a few years back also. Now they want to move it indoors with bouncers.
Drug abuse among prostitutes also increases if you go by the scandinavian model...
I would make a paralell between the scandinavian model on prostitution and how the music and movies industry tries to ban internet pirating. It simply doesnt work as the other part will allways outsmart you! All you can do about it, is to create a middle road like Spotify, PopcornTime, Soundcloud etc. Organized, cheap and safe from viruses...
Lets think out of the box a little!
Besides amnesty international agrees with me, and so does the prostitution union of workers in Norway... only, and only the feminists disagree. And maybe also Kayne West, but that is also why he lies awake at night having bad dreams about his terrible investment in the dumpster known as Tidal.
When that is said, alot more could be done to take out the pimps networks. Give the girls protection if they need, and reinforce the policework through europol in their home countries... now ofcourse, the police might have to go undercover and enter fkk's lol
Citizen Kane
07-30-16, 11:30
Give France 10 years with the same model used in scandinavia and France and the bulk in EU will start seeing the negatives of the scandinavian model as well. I just heard some guy mentioning that they have a majority in Norway to legalize brothels there next year, so this scandinavian country is going in the opposite direction. Mainly because of two factors: 1. The amount of internet ads has increased after that legislation in 2009, and 2. Women feeling less safe as it moves prostitution more underground where they are more easily abused by bad customers, and also by their own pimp who sometimes beats them, and I believe one women was killed a few years back also. Now they want to move it indoors with bouncers.
Drug abuse among prostitutes also increases if you go by the scandinavian model...
I would make a paralell between the scandinavian model on prostitution and how the music and movies industry tries to ban internet pirating. It simply doesnt work as the other part will allways outsmart you! All you can do about it, is to create a middle road like Spotify, PopcornTime, Soundcloud etc. Organized, cheap and safe from viruses...
Lets think out of the box a little!It doesn't matter how successful or not the Scandinavian / Nordic model is; what makes you think the EU won't enforce it regardless? It's not like the people of Europe will have any say in this. It's the politically correct bureaucrats in Brussels who decide.
Citizen Kane
07-30-16, 12:39
a majority in Norway to legalize brothels there next yearNorway, which isn't in the EU.
Give France 10 years with the same model used in scandinavia and France and the bulk in EU will start seeing the negatives of the scandinavian model as well. I just heard some guy mentioning that they have a majority in Norway to legalize brothels there next year, so this scandinavian country is going in the opposite direction. Mainly because of two factors: 1. The amount of internet ads has increased after that legislation in 2009, and 2. Women feeling less safe as it moves prostitution more underground where they are more easily abused by bad customers, and also by their own pimp who sometimes beats them, and I believe one women was killed a few years back also. Now they want to move it indoors with bouncers.
Drug abuse among prostitutes also increases if you go by the scandinavian model...
I would make a paralell between the scandinavian model on prostitution and how the music and movies industry tries to ban internet pirating. It simply doesnt work as the other part will allways outsmart you! All you can do about it, is to create a middle road like Spotify, PopcornTime, Soundcloud etc. Organized, cheap and safe from viruses...
Lets think out of the box a little!
Besides amnesty international agrees with me, and so does the prostitution union of workers in Norway... only, and only the feminists disagree. And maybe also Kayne West, but that is also why he lies awake at night having bad dreams about his terrible investment in the dumpster known as Tidal.
When that is said, alot more could be done to take out the pimps networks. Give the girls protection if they need, and reinforce the policework through europol in their home countries... now ofcourse, the police might have to go undercover and enter fkk's lolMore EU legalize prostitution, better it is for us pro mongers! 5 MG cialis cumshots are on the way, all the way from east LOL.
No, it is the sovereign countries who decides. The EU politicians does not have anything more than an advisory role in this situation. The same can be said about Amnesty International's opposite take on it.
Citizen Kane
07-30-16, 13:45
No, it is the sovereign countries who decides. The EU politicians does not have anything more than an advisory role in this situation. The same can be said about Amnesty International's opposite take on it.At the entrance to the Visitors Centre of the European Parliament, there is a plaque with these words:
"National sovereignty is the root cause of the most crying evils of our times... The only final remedy for this evil is the federal union of the peoples. ".
Most EU governments (but not peoples) are all for "ever closer union". The EU bureaucrats (politicians are elected) will have more than an advisory role.
Citizen Kate and Pistons. You are both correct. If you combine your views we get to the real situation. On major issues the national government politicians and their representatives set direction through the Council of Europe. The Commission then makes proposals to the bureaucrats in the Commission, which then have to be approved by the directly elected European Parliament.
Checks and balances.
Pistons.
Kicking out the Brits. They and Greece are the only countries in the EU where wages have fallen substantially since the Crash. France is about to overtake UK to become the 5th largest GDP. Productivity per worker in the UK is substantially lower than in Germany, France and so on. So your thought that the UK will get relatively poorer is quite reasonable
House of Commons committee is proposing full legalisation of prostitution to remedy the failures of the anti prostitution laws since 1957. It will not be passed by Parliament, but in some local areas so called criminal activities (street prostitution and brothels) are being helped by the Police. Maybe the countries like France and Sweden will learn from the UK failed anti prostitution laws.
Citizen Kane
07-30-16, 14:51
Citizen Kate and Pistons. You are both correct. If you combine your views we get to the real situation. On major issues the national government politicians and their representatives set direction through the Council of Europe. The Commission then makes proposals to the bureaucrats in the Commission, which then have to be approved by the directly elected European Parliament.
Checks and balances.How did you know my real name's Kate?
How did you know my real name's Kate?Wonders of predictive text LOL.
It doesn't matter how successful or not the Scandinavian / Nordic model is; what makes you think the EU won't enforce it regardless? It's not like the people of Europe will have any say in this. It's the politically correct bureaucrats in Brussels who decide.No it's the wymmyns. And indirectly the men who never stand up for their rights.
Citizen Kane
07-30-16, 19:22
No it's the wymmyns. And indirectly the men who never stand up for their rights.And how do the wymmyns do that? Via lobbyist groups straight to the European Commission.
And how do the wymmyns do that? Via lobbyist groups straight to the European Commission.Are you serious? Did you miss the whole global feminist movement where parts of it went too far? Sure they should have equal rights, but not more rights than men. And the idea of such policits as we are discussing comes from the ideas of women being superior to men.
Citizen Kane
07-30-16, 21:21
Are you serious? Did you miss the whole global feminist movement where parts of it went too far? Sure they should have equal rights, but not more rights than men. And the idea of such policits as we are discussing comes from the ideas of women being superior to men.What are you on about? My point was there are feminist groups who lobby the EU attempting to ban prostitution in EU states.
http://www.womenlobby.org/Members-of-the-European-Parliament
Wolvenvacht
07-30-16, 22:40
No, it is the sovereign countries who decides. The EU politicians does not have anything more than an advisory role in this situation. The same can be said about Amnesty International's opposite take on it.Indeed, regulating prostitution is not within the scope of the EU.
Citizen Kane. Thanks for the link. Amazingly level of clichthe nonthought. They support women's rights to choose as long as they don't choose prostitution. They say women's choices are not valid as they are not equal (this is really ignorant: in a capitalist economy where labour is exchanged for money, all employment is based on unequal power relationships). They conflate trafficking with prostitution. These politicians clearly have severe I. Q. and emotional deficiencies: this is ok for ordinary mortals but not for those who seek and wield power over us.
At least the outcome of the Artemis raid is a setback for these people as all their arguments have been judged to be false in the case of Artemis
What are you on about? My point was there are feminist groups who lobby the EU attempting to ban prostitution in EU states.
http://www.womenlobby.org/Members-of-the-European-ParliamentFrom reading the statements of those women, my brain capacitor just overheated, and my mind needs a rest. Also a book could be written with all the remarks that could be made against them.
But have they even considerred how many men there are that would kill to get paid for having sex with women?
From reading the statements of those women, my brain capacitor just overheated, and my mind needs a rest. Also a book could be written with all the remarks that could be made against them.Such books have been written, albeit often in the form of internet blogs and Youtube vids, but you can't really argue with the gynocracy. They don't care about logic, they repeat lies. Where will it end? When the money runs out? With civilization collapse? Will there be a turning of the worm in the mainstream male community?
But have they even considerred how many men there are that would kill to get paid for having sex with women?
Unfortunately not many such men. Otherwise Society would have to stop destroying men's lives. Men are sheep.
Anyone got any idea how to find old reports from particular members. I know you can click on their name and get an option to see that person's forum posts, but that only shows maybe about 300 posts. What about the rest?Further to what Craiova said, and apologies if you already know this, but you can click on a thread which you know that someone posts regularly in and then click on the 'thread tools' twisty button near the top (just above the first post). Then click on 'show printable version' then click on 'Show 1000 posts posts from this thread on one page'. Then click on each page in turn and do Ctrl+F to bring up the search box. Then type in that person's user name and use the down arrow to find each time that the person's name has been referred to on that page of 1000 posts. Then on to the next page.
At the entrance to the Visitors Centre of the European Parliament, there is a plaque with these words:
"National sovereignty is the root cause of the most crying evils of our times... The only final remedy for this evil is the federal union of the peoples. ".
Most EU governments (but not peoples) are all for "ever closer union". The EU bureaucrats (politicians are elected) will have more than an advisory role.Nothing is more closer than having sex, BBBJ and related sexual activities, so all EU states should legalize FKK LOL.
Okok, this topic is one I have never seen on this forum, yet to me it is actually just as important as the BBBJ / CBJ discussion and deffinately more important than the condom width discussion:
TWO OUT OF THREE FKK GIRLS ARE CLUELESS AS TO HOW TO PUT ON A CONDOM!
Ok, I've been to some FKK's more than others, but in every club it seems to be the same, girls who has been in the room hundreads or thousands of times with men have absolutely no idea how to 'roll on a condom' properly!
So I have to ask you other punters here, do you ever try to teach these girls how to take them on? Because I sometimes feel like I'm doing an innovating job when telling the girls that they do it wrong. And this is so important for me that I don't care one second if they feel I am being rude 'when trying to know better'.
I remember we learnt how to 'roll on a condom' properly at 6th grade in primary school. How come they don't teach these things in Romania?
Because I am getting a bit sick of the current trend of:
- Stretching the condom.
- Then wrapping it on the dick as if it was some airtight meal.
- Then having the condom full of air all the time, because that's what happens unless you 'roll it on'.
- Then having the condom move on the skin while fucking.
- Then having to change the useless condom mid fuck.
TWO OUT OF THREE FKK GIRLS ARE CLUELESS AS TO HOW TO PUT ON A CONDOM! ...
- Stretching the condom.
- Then having the condom full of air all the time, because that's what happens unless you 'roll it on'.
- Then having the condom move on the skin while fucking.
Go Sagami! They're such a hassle to put on that the girl will ask you to put it on yourself. They're not stretchable. They're so inherently tight that no space is left for air. They're so tight and sticky that they stay put on your skin, acting like a second skin. In fact they have so many "disadvantages" that they are simply great! The closest you can get to going bareback!
Go Sagami! They're such a hassle to put on that the girl will ask you to put it on yourself. They're not stretchable. They're so inherently tight that no space is left for air. They're so tight and sticky that they stay put on your skin, acting like a second skin. In fact they have so many "disadvantages" that they are simply great! The closest you can get to going bareback!Aha, is that right?
I commented that size L Sagami is too tight on width for me, but OK for length. Maybe you are right, Sagami supposed to be tight on width because it supposed to act as second skin. ? Is this the fact or assumption?
Wolvenvacht
08-07-16, 08:09
So I have to ask you other punters here, do you ever try to teach these girls how to take them on? Because I sometimes feel like I'm doing an innovating job when telling the girls that they do it wrong. And this is so important for me that I don't care one second if they feel I am being rude 'when trying to know better'.Here's an idea!
Why don't you start a "How to apply a condom" consultancy?
Free lessons for all FKK girls provided they do all their training on you.
Wolvenvacht
08-07-16, 08:12
Go Sagami! They're such a hassle to put on that the girl will ask you to put it on yourself. They're not stretchable. They're so inherently tight that no space is left for air. They're so tight and sticky that they stay put on your skin, acting like a second skin. In fact they have so many "disadvantages" that they are simply great! The closest you can get to going bareback!"It's not a bug it's a feature!"
Here's an idea!
Why don't you start a "How to apply a condom" consultancy?
Free lessons for all FKK girls provided they do all their training on you.And be labelled a besserwisser within a minute? No thanks.
Pistons. On my last trip most girls had real trouble putting the condoms on. One was really bad at it, and the result was that after about 40 minutes it got lost inside her. Only ever happened once before to me, but at least she wasn't bothered. When she eventually found it! Apart from that she was an excellent session.
Fellow mongers,
Returning to DE I. E. Land of paradise for my second round of FKK. I have some idea of what clubs I liked from my first trip, and what clubs that I didn't like. Would appreciate advice on selecting FKK clubs for my next trip.
Here is a summary of my last trip to DE: I loved GT the best, good wellness, great food, nice LU, great service. I loved Sharks, decent food, fine wellness, really nice LU, and great service. PSR had excellent wellness, excellent food, but only mediocre LU and service. ACA in Velbert sucked donkey balls, I hated it. Food there was shit, and the girls seemed distant and unapproachable to me, would def not repeat there. Artemis was also bad choice for me, super smokey, bad food, good wellness, and really "sharky" girls, no bueno! So, I think that the "no approach" clubs like ACA not good choices for me. And clubs like Artemis where you need a harpoon to fight off the sharks is also bad idea for me.
Some things that I am looking for in a FKK club: I think that DFK / GFE are important to me. Up-selling usually not a problem for me because I like to zimmer for at least 1 hour or more with a girl. I prefer to visit a daytime LU because I lose steam for nighttime LU. LOL! Good wellness and food are a nice bonus, but not as important as the girls / GFE! Please give me some ideas of which clubs might be a good match for my profile. Going to travel to both the NRW and Hesse.
Thanks!
Pistons. On my last trip most girls had real trouble putting the condoms on. One was really bad at it, and the result was that after about 40 minutes it got lost inside her. Only ever happened once before to me, but at least she wasn't bothered. When she eventually found it! Apart from that she was an excellent session.Man,
I wish my condom will come off during my every sessions at my FKK LOL Nothing beat bare buck sex LOL.
Many girls come into FKK business seeking for money. However, now that I come to think about it, I can only think of only one girl who made considerably a lot of money out of this business like I would say she saved up about half mill euro or little less through out her 4 years at FKK and now she is close to retiring. She had set goal from her very beginning and she managed her life well.
However, other girls they buy Porsche, Audi, bags, I mean do these girls just forget why she is doing this FKK business for or they are all just reckless?
Pistons. On my last trip most girls had real trouble putting the condoms on. I can't put them on either. LOL.
Pistons. On my last trip most girls had real trouble putting the condoms on. One was really bad at it, and the result was that after about 40 minutes it got lost inside her. Only ever happened once before to me, but at least she wasn't bothered. When she eventually found it! Apart from that she was an excellent session.Yes, that happens when you do it the wrong way. Air inside the condom basically. So the only way to do it is to roll them on. Heck, I'm sure there are lots of Youtube videos regarding this.
I can't put them on either. LOL.How old are you? At least I figured guys knew..
UltraHappy
08-09-16, 02:09
TWO OUT OF THREE FKK GIRLS ARE CLUELESS AS TO HOW TO PUT ON A CONDOM!
I don't seem to run into this problem. Nearly all the FKK girls seem to put the condom on correctly for me. After I give them the condom, I do sort of hold my sword up for them (so it's not just laying down on me, which would make the job of dressing my soldier a little more difficult).
I have noticed a few girls put the condom on the wrong direction first (without checking first to see which way the condom unrolls). Then, after she realized that she put it on the wrong way, she'll just switch it over and start unrolling it the correct way. I sometimes share with them that most other girls check for the correct way by sticking their finger in to see which way it unrolls before putting it on. I then explain to them that if they first put it on the wrong way on some guy's infected dick and then turn the condom around the other way, they are potentially exposing themselves to germs since the side that they just put on the guy's dick is actually going into their pussy.
I've only experienced the air bubble problem a few rare times. In those cases, I just resorted to removing it and starting over with a new one. Then again, I don't use the common London brand. I always bring my own preferred Durex brand. The London brand is a bit thicker than my preferred brand. Plus, the diameter of the London condoms is only 52 mm at the base of the condom which starts to choke my little soldier after awhile. My preferred Durex brand has a diameter of 56 mm at its base and fits me much more comfortably. I've never had a problem of slippage or breakage with my current Durex brand either.
When reading that I do wonder if they and you actually do put it on correctly, or if you are just satisfied with how it is done. If done correctly then air inside is an impossibility. It is never a viewable air bubble if done wrong, but the skin can move inside the condom. Foreskin over the dickhead is the most common thing.
I can't put them on either. LOL.In that case I'll do it for you, provided Pistons is present to make sure I do it right :D
In that case I'll do it for you, provided Pistons is present to make sure I do it right :DOr you can just search youtube for 'How to put on a condom correctly"? And enjoy the sights, LOL.
UltraHappy
08-10-16, 00:26
When reading that I do wonder if they and you actually do put it on correctly, or if you are just satisfied with how it is done. If done correctly then air inside is an impossibility. It is never a viewable air bubble if done wrong, but the skin can move inside the condom. Foreskin over the dickhead is the most common thing.Geez, next thing you know, you guys are going to tell me I shouldn't be reusing my condoms to save money on buying new ones. Haha.
Seriously though, not that anyone wants to watch this video of this guy demonstrating proper condom use, but at the 42 second mark, this fellow describes the alternate technique I often observe experienced girls employing, that is, unrolling the condom using fingers on the inside of the condom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TvdC7AAqUE (as opposed to simply rolling the condom down from the outside of the condom). I always just assumed they were using this technique to avoid touching the outside of the condom for hygienic reasons since the outside of the condom will directly contact their pussy.
In any case, both techniques when done properly result in the same outcome (at least with the girls I session with and the condoms I use). While I have experienced the air bubble issue, it is rare. The OP made it sound like the air bubble problem was quite epidemic or something (and maybe it is for the OP -- I was simply sharing my personal experience that I rarely run into that problem).
But that video clearly shows the gay way. Listen to what he says after that 42 sec mark. LOL.
The touching of the condom part you mention doesn't make sense. When rolling it, you only touch the inside no matter how you do it.
Could someone please tell me the lingerie days for following FKK in Frankfurt?
Palace, Oase and Sharks.
And as for Artemis, if I remember right, Wednesday is the lingerie day right?
Lingerie nights:
Tuesday: Sharks.
Wednesday: Palace (and Artemis as you say).
Thursday: Oase.
If you like lingerie nights, try to catch the Octoberfest at Palace. I've been there twice, and especially the first time (3 years ago) was fantastic. 2 years ago attendance on that night was not as good, but the bavarian outfits are quite sexy, and easily the sexiest costume party at an fkk I've been to ;)
Last year I think it was in mid october during the book messe, so after the real octoberfest. This year I still don't see it advertised on their website, but their allways late in adding it as an event. Like 3 weeks before maybe...
Lingerie nights:
Tuesday: Sharks.
Wednesday: Palace (and Artemis as you say).
Thursday: Oase.
If you like lingerie nights, try to catch the Octoberfest at Palace. I've been there twice, and especially the first time (3 years ago) was fantastic. 2 years ago attendance on that night was not as good, but the bavarian outfits are quite sexy, and easily the sexiest costume party at an fkk I've been to ;)
Last year I think it was in mid october during the book messe, so after the real octoberfest. This year I still don't see it advertised on their website, but their allways late in adding it as an event. Like 3 weeks before maybe...Thanks buddy. No man, I do not like lingerie night at all because you cannot see the shape of nipple and tits before and also ass and pussy, I like to confirm what I am about to pay for and eat in the room LOL.
I am going to do 7 days FKK trips between Berlin and Frankfurt in winter sometimes, most likely first week of December before Christmas holiday, so line up should be strong before the holiday and I did not want to walk into all the different club when they all have lingerie days, imagine that LOL.
I only hit FKK sharks and Oase once and both bit disappointed me with LU, but it was during summer time in August, so I hope it will be better this time around during peak season.
VonderJohn
08-13-16, 23:46
Guys,
How do you deal with the side effects of porn addiction? I am sure at least some of you face difficulties getting a hard on while having sex because of porn addiction. What happens is that we get used to virtual and visual stimulation, that physical stimulation no longer has a strong effect on our penis. We often face the problem of needing a visual stimulation, and that touching is not enough.
Based on the experience of people in this forum, how do you deal with this problem? How do you overcome it? It is annoying and I must say can be embarrassing for a man, especially during the sexual experience. There is nothing worse than failing to fuck when you're emotionally and psychologically ready to do it.
Any ideas about this?
Guys,
How do you deal with the side effects of porn addiction? I am sure at least some of you face difficulties getting a hard on while having sex because of porn addiction. What happens is that we get used to virtual and visual stimulation, that physical stimulation no longer has a strong effect on our penis. We often face the problem of needing a visual stimulation, and that touching is not enough.
Based on the experience of people in this forum, how do you deal with this problem? How do you overcome it? It is annoying and I must say can be embarrassing for a man, especially during the sexual experience. There is nothing worse than failing to fuck when you're emotionally and psychologically ready to do it.
Any ideas about this?I was talking similar topic awhile ago and there were only few that had similar problem and there you are who seems to have similar mild problem. However, it is important topic as for monger getting real hard on multiple times per day and cumming hard multiple times per day is essential during our FKK trip, therefore it is important topic to discuss.
I am 36 and I began to have going soft during session, especially after first room.
I blamed my problem on daily arginine supplements I began 3 years ago and watching porn wanking off about minimum 3 times per day sometimes 5 times per day every single day since I am like 15 or younger (I began wanking at about age 11) using my hand, doing it hard after several wank so that I can cum.
So first arginine, 3 years ago, I wanted to try out some boost supplement, so I can fuck like 7 girls per day with intense erection, so I went to pharmacy I told them I do not have ED, but I want something, so I can fuck like 7 girls per day and the lady at the pharmacy gave me Arginine supplement called euroviril. She told me to take just one tablet per day because I am young, I was 33 at the time. Oh god, this arginine worked and I fucked like a machine steroid penis for 12 straight days doing about 5 or 7 girls per day.
After the FKK trip, I loved arginine effect, so I ordered powder arginine and began taking it every day, three times per day like bodybuilders do, it was all good and effect was there for first few month, then effect got weaker, but I kept on taking it thinking it is good for me, but since then each time I go back to FKK, erection is there, but it get weak after first round. It does get up, but it just won't last.
Second was porn, as I wrote earlier, I wank a lot watching porn, some western, some JAV that are known to be hardcore. , I have been wanking a lot, and each time I got to do it harder so that I can cum. In recent years I began to find days when my erection is weak and some days strong.
To overcome this arginine problems, simply I stopped taking arginine on daily basis and I decided to take it only when I am at FKK, it seems to be fine now and also I will begin spot using cialis 5 MG only when I am at FKK trip too as I read many research that spot using cialis is not a problem especially considering the extreme sexual situation where I fuck many girls at FKK daily for like consecutive 7 days or sometimes more. I am fit guy, who exercise daily, but as mid 30 hit, I do notice doing 5 to 7 times is hard, so I think my solution of spot using arginine and cialis 5 MG during trip is good thing and it may even clean out my artery during my FKK trip, so once just a crazy sexual trip can be also artery cleaning trip.
To over come, porn addiction and also waking at it many times per day, each time wanking get more hardcore. I first began using masturbation hole often, so that I do not wank gripping penis hard, I also use some gel, plus I limit my wanking to max 3 times per day and most days I just wank once or twice now, I do still watch nude pictures all the time during the day and also just watch porn without wanking to keep my interest up, but I just limit my wanking.
Also I began taking cold water shower at the end of my hot shower to train my balls etc. It seems to working great.
Having said that, there is third problem and reason for penis going soft beside porn. It is good service FKK girls. I mean I had some girls who went real dirty and hardcore with me in room that now. Normal beauty providing normal service is not enough for my penis to stay strong. How to overcome this I do not know yet, but I want to get back to days when even girl who I find is beautiful is providing good service, my dick got so hard so that I can fuck the hell out of her from doggy position to punish her. So I am doing everything to get back to that and so far above solutions to overcome seems to be good.
I begin to think about taking DHEA during my FKK trip only, but it maybe dangerous and so far spot using arginine and cialis 5 MG seems to work, so I may just stop my self at these two as these two seems to be actually even good for your over all health as long as you spot use them now and then to boost up your health via cleaning out arteries by nitric oxide.
Any other solution is good to exchange information.
I never knew that was the definition of porn addiction. Clearly the more senses that are part of the act makes it more intimidating. But at least for me, touching is still the most important. But the more often I fuck, the more does it shift over to other senses. But that's a hormone thing I thought.
Thanks buddy. No man, I do not like lingerie night at all because you cannot see the shape of nipple and tits before and also ass and pussy, I like to confirm what I am about to pay for and eat in the room LOL.Do you also hate Christmas? Or do you unpack your presents a few hours in advance to prepare to make a good reaction? : p.
Any ideas about this?If it's that much of a problem then stop watching porn. End of story!
Do you also hate Christmas? Or do you unpack your presents a few hours in advance to prepare to make a good reaction? : p.Well when I was a kid, my parent asked me what I wanted and I told them what I want before Christmas and I got what I told them on Christmas day, so I knew what was inside LOL.
I never imagined how that affected my later pro monger life of wanting to see what underneath blur and panties of FKK girls before I buy and eat them in room, it must be my childhood LOL.
Really, I love FKK because I can see what I am about to buy and eat in room, so I am not big fan of lingerie night It must be so disappointing moment when you buy girl with nice blur on lingerie night at FKK and in room, her nipple turned out to be big dark nipple. , I mean how am I going to cancel that one? Ahh. Sorry your nipples are too dark and big for me LOL!
Wolvenvacht
08-14-16, 12:49
If it's that much of a problem then stop watching porn. End of story!Not that I have any problems with it, but I can guess that it is not easy to do what you suggest. That's why it is called an addiction.
It is like saying to a drug user "Just stop using drugs and you'll be fine". Sure, that's totally correct but somehow with 99% of drug users it doesn't seem to work.
Neurosynth
08-14-16, 19:04
Just did a bit of reading about arginine. As far as I can tell it's a basic and common amino acid you should get plenty of if you have a typical diet. It may help with erections a bit as it dilates blood vessels. But it does so generally. Something like cialis does the same thing but in a more controlled way.
Just did a bit of reading about arginine. As far as I can tell it's a basic and common amino acid you should get plenty of if you have a typical diet. It may help with erections a bit as it dilates blood vessels. But it does so generally. Something like cialis does the same thing but in a more controlled way.It works, but please be careful as long term use did have affect on me because body get used to consuming it via supplement in big doses, so without bigger doses it won't work again. These supplement and also cialis can be good for spot use and spot use only and it is prompt for fly in monger like me to use them on spot use because consecutive FKK days for like a week or over is extreme sexual situation LOL.
It is funny in my 20's and till early 30's, I could do 5 to 7 rooms every day for one week or more, but now. It get soft, so I will begin to spot use them only during my trip.
I do not recommend anyone to use arginine on daily basis, beside what sites says, it had side effect on my called it no longer works including my dick LOL.
Neurosynth
08-18-16, 07:17
It works, but please be careful as long term use did have affect on me because body get used to consuming it via supplement in big doses, so without bigger doses it won't work again. These supplement and also cialis can be good for spot use and spot use only....In the case of Cialis that't not true. There is now a daily use 5 MG pill you can get by prescription. There is no drug tolerance effect.
In the case of Cialis that't not true. There is now a daily use 5 MG pill you can get by prescription. There is no drug tolerance effect.It is like so for Arginine too, but my body got used to it.
As for cialis, that is what I bought 5 MG and I tested it at home and it works with no side effect.
However, since Arginine supplement that is also allegedly has no tolerance effect had actually had got used to it affect on my body, I will only spot use any of these boost supplements or medicines when I go on FKK trip.
Having said that, I did research on cialis on low doses and now they begin to have science evidences that even boost testosterone and also prevent cancer on urinal chord and so on, it is not concrete yet, but sounded like quite promising good side effect with cialis.
In the case of Cialis that't not true. There is now a daily use 5 MG pill you can get by prescription. There is no drug tolerance effect.Apparently, pde5 inhibitor including cialis do have tolerance effect though sellers side won't admit it. This is important to know, but as long as one spot use it, I think tolerance build up in matter of few weeks.
For me, arginine lost its effect in few months on daily in take, but first few weeks, it worked great, so I guess for cialis, one won't build tolerance in matter of few weeks even you take it daily:
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Viagra_Resistance.aspx
Neurosynth
08-20-16, 20:23
Apparently, pde5 inhibitor including cialis do have tolerance effect though sellers side won't admit it. This is important to know, but as long as one spot use it, I think tolerance build up in matter of few weeks.
For me, arginine lost its effect in few months on daily in take, but first few weeks, it worked great, so I guess for cialis, one won't build tolerance in matter of few weeks even you take it daily:
http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Viagra_Resistance.aspxThe website you linked to is hardly a scientific source. It appears to be in the business of hawking questionable testosterone and body building products. It cites two studies. One is a telephone survey, not a terribly well controlled method. The other notes that while for some there is an apparent drop off in effect over time, it's probably not due to tolerance but rather a worsening of the underlying condition.
A much more widely cited study in the scientific literature found no tolerance effect over a 6 month period.
In short, there is no drug tolerance effect when using Cialis. If Cialis stopped working for you it's due to some other reason.
http://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(15)31337-0/abstract
The website you linked to is hardly a scientific source. It appears to be in the business of hawking questionable testosterone and body building products. It cites two studies. One is a telephone survey, not a terribly well controlled method. The other notes that while for some there is an apparent drop off in effect over time, it's probably not due to tolerance but rather a worsening of the underlying condition.
A much more widely cited study in the scientific literature found no tolerance effect over a 6 month period.
In short, there is no drug tolerance effect when using Cialis. If Cialis stopped working for you it's due to some other reason.
http://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(15)31337-0/abstractThe journal of sexual medicine LOL I love this title of journal LOL.
No tolerance? If so I will be eating them for breakfast LOL.
However, with Arginine, I did have tolerance, so be careful, with both cialis and arginine, I will only spot use them when I am on consecutive FKK trip in Germany.
I took 5 MG cialis today and fucked eurasian girl without condom here in Japan, wow this staff really work LOL I can fuck like 16 years old once again, this is great, I finish fucking her, then after 5 min, my dick is rock hard to fuck her for second time LOL.
This is greatest invention ever and I cum harder as well.
However, cialis make me [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) a lot, I drink something, then I want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) it out after 30 min. Also I got mild pain on the leg and back, why do cialis gives you body pain a little bit?
Vito Corleone
08-22-16, 07:58
. Also I got mild pain on the leg and back, why do cialis gives you body pain a little bit?Most likely pain from banging the babe non stop & taking a bit longer to finish the second round.
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