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Maybe because on 1989, I discovered what was behind the wall and prettier for me than average of Scandinavians. I won t go to Scandinavia for girls, like I won t go to Asia for foods. But I will go to Italy. If one day, I have enough time, after Alaska free ride if I still can, I would go for Minsk Riga Tallin Saint Petersburg of course and Siberia to Vladivostok Kamchatka tour, for eyes pleasure.Beauty differs a lot between places in Scandinavia. But if you only go to the capitols, then Helsinki perhaps has the hottest girls.
Elif and Amalia, but they are Romanian, are real sisters at Sharks, when many only business sisters, to fuck clients.Sharks never really worked for me for line up. I did find stunners, but it was a job to find one, plus I don't like the ware house light in sharks, so I have to hunt where the restaurant area is by the water server, where it has good light from outside during day and also restaurant more blighter light.
Megan is level of beauty I look for. Real wow when I saw her at Mainhattan where she was Sara, on August 2015. She started as Francesca at Sharks on November 2015 , always starting her day with me. On 28 December 2018 , she was so angry I saw her on public at Globe, when our last room was 17 months ago, you can send her this guys, shouting after me in club in front of other girls, real woman reaction and she came to me after asking to speak together, interesting behavior, we repeated nearly 1 year later, and repeated again. I like her manners.It is just incredible how much you remember each names for each clubs LOL.
I barely do not remember half or even more of girls that I fucked in FKK LOL.
Sometimes, when they tell me their real name, I tend to remember more, but with these fake FKK names, I do not remember most of them.
Trinity, that's her name. She was sweet hearted person. Came with sister, I never went with sisters in FKK before. I met few girls including in lr who claimed to be sister, but they were not stunner at all and they did not even looked like each others LOL.
I would love to do threesome with sisters in FKK if I ever find sister stunners.I don't remember real sisters at LR. When You saw Trinity and her sister I only saw once, You didn't even need to ask. Same for Elif and Amalia at Sharks. I don t remember seeing twin girls in FKK land.
I've been a member of ISG for a long time and it seems every once in a while one girl becomes very famous on these forums and many many people post about them before their star fades or they retire or another new girl becomes flavour of the month!
Like I remember when Marie of Oase dominated discussions, then in was Janine of Sharks, Saskia and Indira of Palace well before then, Gina from Palace too, now it seems Linda from Globe (and Megan) are the It Girls. Also I forgot Mady at Oase and Daisy at Maxim.
I'm sure I have forgotten others. Please add to this!It is true that beauty is in the eye of the beholder but for me the beauties at FKKs prior to 2010 were of higher quality than the beauties after 2010. I have never visited Globe so cannot speak for that club. I found German Marie of Oase to be a true beauty better than anyone recently in Hessen clubs. However, she was rather cold in the zimmer, enjoying the deed but restricting emotions. A real beauty for me was Romanian Simona who some guys criticized because of her nose which I liked just as I liked the nose of the tall Bulgarian at Oase (whose name slips me now) who subsequently got a nose job which I haven't seen yet. Simona, like Megan, had a very pleasant disposition and I regard her overall as my all time favorite FKK girl. The most beautiful woman I ever sessioned at FKKs and who may be the hottest of all time for me was Romanian Sarah at Oase, 2011, who I believe worked for just one day as I never saw her before nor after and I read no report of her on ISG. A notable mention would be Guitta from Hungary. Oh, what memories! A true beauty for me at FKKs in recent times would be Ester at Sharks when she first joined the club, not now with the boob and lip jobs. Before the alterations she was a notable Asian hunter but not so much afterwards. BTW in my last visit to Sharks on March 16 just before they closed Ester was one of the very few girls who were working. There must have been less than 10 girls and even fewer guys and she was the only girl who was busy.
I don't remember real sisters at LR. When You saw Trinity and her sister I only saw once, You didn't even need to ask. Same for Elif and Amalia at Sharks. I don t remember seeing twin girls in FKK land.I heard there was twin in Artemis, but I never experienced it. In lr, there were sisters, but they were not pretty at all LOL.
One day, if I find stunner sisters in FKK, I will for sure do threesome even though I am not too big on threesome beside getting BBBJ by two girls at once, which I enjoy.
It is true that beauty is in the eye of the beholder but for me the beauties at FKKs prior to 2010 were of higher quality than the beauties after 2010. I have never visited Globe so cannot speak for that club. I found German Marie of Oase to be a true beauty better than anyone recently in Hessen clubs. However, she was rather cold in the zimmer, enjoying the deed but restricting emotions. A real beauty for me was Romanian Simona who some guys criticized because of her nose which I liked just as I liked the nose of the tall Bulgarian at Oase (whose name slips me now) who subsequently got a nose job which I haven't seen yet. Simona, like Megan, had a very pleasant disposition and I regard her overall as my all time favorite FKK girl. The most beautiful woman I ever sessioned at FKKs and who may be the hottest of all time for me was Romanian Sarah at Oase, 2011, who I believe worked for just one day as I never saw her before nor after and I read no report of her on ISG. A notable mention would be Guitta from Hungary. Oh, what memories! A true beauty for me at FKKs in recent times would be Ester at Sharks when she first joined the club, not now with the boob and lip jobs. Before the alterations she was a notable Asian hunter but not so much afterwards.I have seen some strange thing in FKK like some mongers going with some fat cow instead of gorgeous model stunner standing next to that fat cow LOL! But whatever make someone happy.
Vladivostok and Khabarovsk in Russia probably has some of the hottest girls on the planet. Personally I met a few of them in Macau saunas and even nightclubs at the casino's several years ago. They were mainly from Khabarovsk, but also a few from Vladivostok. And now I've spied on some others from that part of Russia on Instagram. Wow!
I believe the reason is simple. 100 years ago, Russia needed labor in the far east, and they feared China and Japan embarking on their territory. So they set up a campaign and paid the prettiest girls in Russia a lot of money to move to Khabarovsk and Vladivostok first. Then they did heavy marketing campaigns where they advertised all the beautiful ladies who had already moved there in order for working class men to follow suit. Quite clever if you ask me. The sad part is just how hard it is for us right now to fly all the way over there. Now the Asians I spoke to in Macau all refused to believe that these white girls were from Khabarovsk and Vladivostok. They would all swear on them being from Latvia or Eastern Europe. Perhaps so 4 generations ago (I bet some of the Asians here on this forum too don't really know the treasures you have so close to home also. Unfortunately I have no idea regarding p6 in those places. I suppose that is a bigger issue perhaps. But at least some of them had found their way into Macau, so there is probably a network there also.
It is just incredible how much you remember each names for each clubs LOL.
I barely do not remember half or even more of girls that I fucked in FKK LOL.
Sometimes, when they tell me their real name, I tend to remember more, but with these fake FKK names, I do not remember most of them.I go with her since August 2015, at Mainhattan, then Sharks, then Globe, but I remember many girls names with who I have never been, and they are very surprised I remember when most of guys don t even remember at the end of the room. Just my respect from a bad guy who look at them like women. Girls remember a lot about us, at least about me, and they really remember a lot when this is private.
I have seen some strange thing in FKK like some mongers going with some fat cow instead of gorgeous model stunner standing next to that fat cow LOL! But whatever make someone happy.Most of guys are afraid of too beautiful girls, furthermore when they look like women, not little girl. Just problem of self confidence with women. I remember German Rose at GT, what a model 1,80 , I saw her sitting waiting for hours, I thought there was a problem with her, I returned on next day to repeat with her, a real GFE beauty, I pay for this level of beauties. When I can claim I had the prettiest, Madi World was the most perfect look for me, Romanian, 29 yo, she was obsessed about her look with me, I joked to make her being crazy jumping in front the mirror. On many Saturdays, best business day at World, I was her only client, from 5 pm to 5 am, this was perfect time for me for months. So many times I heard: because she is pretty, she won t give good services, about some girls who were or became great for me. I prefer to choose beauties, because even they are not so good, then I have to be good enough to make them improve for me, and this is great enjoyment to experience a beauty improving following You, probably why I liked so much my LR Eve, for how she did trust me and always coming to me. About a GND, even a top performer, I can't make her becoming a desirable beauty, I m not David Copperfield.
It is true that beauty is in the eye of the beholder but for me the beauties at FKKs prior to 2010 were of higher quality than the beauties after 2010. I have never visited Globe so cannot speak for that club. I found German Marie of Oase to be a true beauty better than anyone recently in Hessen clubs. However, she was rather cold in the zimmer, enjoying the deed but restricting emotions. A real beauty for me was Romanian Simona who some guys criticized because of her nose which I liked just as I liked the nose of the tall Bulgarian at Oase (whose name slips me now) who subsequently got a nose job which I haven't seen yet. Simona, like Megan, had a very pleasant disposition and I regard her overall as my all time favorite FKK girl. The most beautiful woman I ever sessioned at FKKs and who may be the hottest of all time for me was Romanian Sarah at Oase, 2011, who I believe worked for just one day as I never saw her before nor after and I read no report of her on ISG. A notable mention would be Guitta from Hungary. Oh, what memories! A true beauty for me at FKKs in recent times would be Ester at Sharks when she first joined the club, not now with the boob and lip jobs. Before the alterations she was a notable Asian hunter but not so much afterwards. BTW in my last visit to Sharks on March 16 just before they closed Ester was one of the very few girls who were working. There must have been less than 10 girls and even fewer guys and she was the only girl who was busy.Bulgarian model type with blue eyes, now with new upturned nose, Katrin at Oase.
Ester arrived at Sharks from Wuzburg or something like that, on beginning of September 2015, for IAA. At this time, high level Polish Karolina. Megan is far prettier than Ester and Evita for me. One of the prettiest face seen in FKK land, when face is the most important for me, was Ramona Sharks becoming Sabina at Oase with her green eyes and beautiful teeth, a bit higher level than RTC.
Beauty differs a lot between places in Scandinavia. But if you only go to the capitols, then Helsinki perhaps has the hottest girls.From what I see on TV or internet, Danish seem to be now the prettiest for me. Finnish are for driving.
What do you guys think about Kaufmich?I knew some Germans who worked on Kaufmich, Shayen at GT and few others, I didn't go with them for 50 in clubs.
I've been a member of ISG for a long time and it seems every once in a while one girl becomes very famous on these forums and many many people post about them before their star fades or they retire or another new girl becomes flavour of the month!
Like I remember when Marie of Oase dominated discussions, then in was Janine of Sharks, Saskia and Indira of Palace well before then, Gina from Palace too, now it seems Linda from Globe (and Megan) are the It Girls. Also I forgot Mady at Oase and Daisy at Maxim.
I'm sure I have forgotten others. Please add to this!I can't compete because I'm only a baby in FKK land, only discovering on 29 December 2012 because not enough snow to ski. Only discovering Hessen on beginning of 2014 and Globe when following Katalina on Summer 2016. After Katalina, yes Linda is now Globe busiest, busier than Megan who has prettier face for me, but Linda is German. Katalina was Romanian from poorest part of Romania. Mady silicon was a star at History. Ch. I remember on our discovery on 10 December 2016, when I asked her if she wanted to repeat, a guy who seemed to know her wanted her, but she chose me, he was not happy in lockers when we finished when closing. But she became nothing at Oase, not busy, when she could work at Globe, not my business, one more who fell for business. Janine was a star at Sharks, but I don't think for her level in bed.
Kel Varnsen
04-25-20, 17:17
One of the prettiest face seen in FKK land, when face is the most important for me, was Ramona Sharks becoming Sabina at Oase with her green eyes and beautiful teeth, a bit higher level than RTC.This was the Scarlett Johansson lookalike, right? I only got to session with her once, at Oase. She was very pretty indeed, a pity she disappeared. I heard she didn't handle the job well and just quit altogether.
Lmk if there's a better place to ask this. I'm asking about Germany because I figure if you can have a Euro alt / short hair girl anywhere it would be in Germany, occasionally I've seen strippers in the US with this look and I figure there's more punk culture in general in Europe, unless the young people there are culturally dead too.
The other real stunner at Globe -- who used to work in Babylon too in Klagenfurt -- is Carmen. She too is Romanian, friendly, very beautiful, intelligent and great at conversation. My dream threesome at Globe will be with those too -- I've had threesomes with both but not at the same time. A foursome with myself plus Megan, Carmen and Linda in the VIP room is a goal for when the club re-opens!
The other real stunners I sessioned with this past year have been Sunny, Gloria, Amy and Carla at Globe and Leanna at FKK Palace plus Martha from Colombia. The most mindblowing sex was with Emma Swiss at Amesia and with Camy at Globe and Johanna at Globe. Mr. Ho have you been with Carmen? Also, you should try Aphrodisia.Yes for Megan, also for Berliner Leana at Palace who is even more impressive look than Megan for me, but low level in bed for me even friendly, but no wow for Carmen nor for Linda, even Linda is more attractive for me than Carmen. Next time You go to Globe, look at Angel face when she smiles, good choice for her name, even quite often closed face. Because of her quite big and not so firm popo, I missed Swiss EMA even she was smiling, and repeated with Milena who is elegant, charming and top GFE. EMA is rare at Amesia.
Sebastiane
04-25-20, 20:29
Most of guys are afraid of too beautiful girls, furthermore when they look like women, not little girl. Just problem of self confidence with women. I remember German Rose at GT, what a model 1,80 , I saw her sitting waiting for hours, I thought there was a problem with her, I returned on next day to repeat with her, a real GFE beauty, I pay for this level of beauties. When I can claim I had the prettiest, Madi World was the most perfect look for me, Romanian, 29 yo, she was obsessed about her look with me.I agree with you here!
Vladivostok and Khabarovsk in Russia probably has some of the hottest girls on the planet. Personally I met a few of them in Macau saunas and even nightclubs at the casino's several years ago. They were mainly from Khabarovsk, but also a few from Vladivostok. And now I've spied on some others from that part of Russia on Instagram. Wow!
I believe the reason is simple. 100 years ago, Russia needed labor in the far east, and they feared China and Japan embarking on their territory. So they set up a campaign and paid the prettiest girls in Russia a lot of money to move to Khabarovsk and Vladivostok first. Then they did heavy marketing campaigns where they advertised all the beautiful ladies who had already moved there in order for working class men to follow suit. Quite clever if you ask me. The sad part is just how hard it is for us right now to fly all the way over there. Now the Asians I spoke to in Macau all refused to believe that these white girls were from Khabarovsk and Vladivostok. They would all swear on them being from Latvia or Eastern Europe. Perhaps so 4 generations ago (I bet some of the Asians here on this forum too don't really know the treasures you have so close to home also. Unfortunately I have no idea regarding p6 in those places. I suppose that is a bigger issue perhaps. But at least some of them had found their way into Macau, so there is probably a network there also.Many girls types in Russia: Siberians, Eurasians, Tatar, girls from Oural, girls with quite latina look. Russia is diverse and very rich for culture. I love Italy and look forward returning on Summer, I would not go to Wellcum if I didnt go for Zoncolan and now to try Gentile, but Russia is one of the most interesting country for me and not only because the prettiest women.
Sebastiane
04-25-20, 20:34
Bulgarian model type with blue eyes, now with new upturned nose, Katrin at Oase.
Ester arrived at Sharks from Wuzburg or something like that, on beginning of September 2015, for IAA. At this time, high level Polish Karolina. Megan is far prettier than Ester and Evita for me. One of the prettiest face seen in FKK land, when face is the most important for me, was Ramona Sharks becoming Sabina at Oase with her green eyes and beautiful teeth, a bit higher level than RTC.I had a memorable session with Bulgarian Katrin a couple of years ago in Oase. I also met Ester but never sessioned with her. I agree Megan is far prettier than both of them.
Sebastiane
04-25-20, 20:43
From what I see on TV or internet, Danish seem to be now the prettiest for me. Finnish are for driving.Possibly the most beautiful girl I've ever fucked in my life was from Helsinki. I fucked her in Berlin where she was working as an escort. Her escort name was Cami. She was breathtakingly beautiful. I invited her to my hotel in Charlottenburg and had an amazing time.
Sebastiane
04-25-20, 20:51
What do you guys think about Kaufmich?It can be really good. I have used it twice, once in Hamburg where I met a German girl called Eva -- which was an amazing 2 hour energetic session and again a few years later in Berlin where I again used kaufmich to session with another (older) German girl called Julia who was an ex-model and dancer. I remember this session because she squirted.
Kaufmich can be hit and miss but when its a hit it can be amazing.
Vladivostok and Khabarovsk in Russia probably has some of the hottest girls on the planet. Personally I met a few of them in Macau saunas and even nightclubs at the casino's several years ago. They were mainly from Khabarovsk, but also a few from Vladivostok. And now I've spied on some others from that part of Russia on Instagram. Wow!One Russian city that often gets overlooked is Kazan in Tartarstan. There are a lot of smoking hot Russian girls from there, including with blonde hair and blue eyes if you like those features. I have fucked girls from all over Russia, mainly in Germany and Spain, with the one from the farthest east being from Siberia. Butt fucked her in Barcelona at one of the top casas there. She knew Spanish, and I remember her telling me that if I wanted her "culito", then it was her culito I was going to have. Enjoyed seeing her attractive, milk white face turn beet red as I penetrated into her far east, Ruskie girl anus.
Sebastiane
04-25-20, 21:08
That' true in my experience too -- most of the really pretty German girls at FKKs (not all but most) tend to be from Hamburg! In addition to Linda and the others you've listed, also I can remember way back in Palace in around 2007-2008 there was another beautiful German girl called Sophie who was also from Hamburg. Also at Artemis I recall Nele and then there was the famous model Marie from Oase -- but I never asked her which part of Germany she was from. Larissa at Harmony also. I think it might be as Ho says that Hamburg is close to Denmark. The funny thing is though that when I lived in Hamburg I didn't see so many beautiful blonde German girls -- of course I mean I did but not in any more numbers than in any other big German city.I should add one of my last girls in Globe, Ginneana, was also from Hamburg!
I knew some Germans who worked on Kaufmich, Shayen at GT and few others, I didn't go with them for 50 in clubs.Shayen at GT on end of 2013/2014 , half German, half Turkish, with beautiful natural tits, but average face for me. Also German Coco worked on Kaufmich and at GT. I asked Tatjana about her, she brought me, Coco understood immediately when seeing my face, Tatjana was upset, but too average face. Being German is not enough to be desirable, for me.
I should add one of my last girls in Globe, Ginneana, was also from Hamburg!Usually, Hamburg blondes means very good news for me LOL.
This was the Scarlett Johansson lookalike, right? I only got to session with her once, at Oase. She was very pretty indeed, a pity she disappeared. I heard she didn't handle the job well and just quit altogether.Yes, as I told her, she was prettier than Scarlet Johanson, she smiled when I told her. She hated this job and could see stress damages on her body, but what a sweet beauty, for me.
Possibly the most beautiful girl I've ever fucked in my life was from Helsinki. I fucked her in Berlin where she was working as an escort. Her escort name was Cami. She was breathtakingly beautiful. I invited her to my hotel in Charlottenburg and had an amazing time.Which escort agency did you use?
I should add one of my last girls in Globe, Ginneana, was also from Hamburg!You mean quite short dark hair German Gianina. Lovely and fire in bed. But I need prettier look, to pay Globe rate. She saw me with Joana when she stayed from 3 to 9 pm with me, but Joana was less sexy for me when she became brunette. I preferred Megan natural chestnut than Asian business blond she became at Sharks.
One Russian city that often gets overlooked is Kazan in Tartarstan. There are a lot of smoking hot Russian girls from there, including with blonde hair and blue eyes if you like those features. I have fucked girls from all over Russia, mainly in Germany and Spain, with the one from the farthest east being from Siberia. Butt fucked her in Barcelona at one of the top casas there. She knew Spanish, and I remember her telling me that if I wanted her "culito", then it was her culito I was going to have. Enjoyed seeing her attractive, milk white face turn beet red as I penetrated into her far east, Ruskie girl anus.Yes, Tatar girls are fire in bed. Siberians are fire under ice. Speaking Russian help with Russian girls, for more intimacy.
It can be really good. I have used it twice, once in Hamburg where I met a German girl called Eva -- which was an amazing 2 hour energetic session and again a few years later in Berlin where I again used kaufmich to session with another (older) German girl called Julia who was an ex-model and dancer. I remember this session because she squirted.
Kaufmich can be hit and miss but when its a hit it can be amazing.Forgot her name, never been with her because not pretty enough for me, claiming to be Spanish, one at LR squirted a lot, she was funny she took many towels to go to room. I think to remember she moved to Sakura. One at Bab, she moved to Finca, squirted while DATY, what a surprise, I had in nose, I swallowed, she was funny she apologized. I prefer honey or milky juice.
I had a memorable session with Bulgarian Katrin a couple of years ago in Oase. I also met Ester but never sessioned with her. I agree Megan is far prettier than both of them..Comparison to before, there are much less Bulgarians now as well, just like Polish.
Lmk if there's a better place to ask this. I'm asking about Germany because I figure if you can have a Euro alt / short hair girl anywhere it would be in Germany, occasionally I've seen strippers in the US with this look and I figure there's more punk culture in general in Europe, unless the young people there are culturally dead too.For punky hair, you have blond Romanian Ela at Globe, you can look on website Globe. Ch. German Gianina is hair to shoulders. German Mio and before German Lana who moved to Aphrodisia, full tattooed. If still at GT, German Sara full tattooed. For punk look.
Blue Swede
04-26-20, 10:03
Beauty differs a lot between places in Scandinavia. But if you only go to the capitols, then Helsinki perhaps has the hottest girls.It doesn't really matter in this discussion, but it could be good to know, that Finland isn't a part of Scandinavia.
But, the mistake to include Finland is common, also among people living in Scandinavia. :-)
It doesn't really matter in this discussion, but it could be good to know, that Finland isn't a part of Scandinavia.
But, the mistake to include Finland is common, also among people living in Scandinavia.Although a Nordic country, Finland is not Scandinavian. On the other hand, people often don't think of Iceland and the Faroe Islands as Scandinavian, but they are properly included as well.
It doesn't really matter in this discussion, but it could be good to know, that Finland isn't a part of Scandinavia.
But, the mistake to include Finland is common, also among people living in Scandinavia.Not sure why I do this again, but I've discussed this probably 10+ times. The term was first coined by an Italian explorer who named the peninsula Fenno-Scandia. Nobody has made any other distinctions ever. Meaning Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia (Kola Peninsula) are the real Scandinavia. Not Denmark. Denmark used to be before the Napoleonic wars when they lost 'Scania' to Sweden because they took the loosing side of Napoleon. So because french people are useless in war, Denmark is not Scandinavia. But I suppose French people who denies history would still argue for them being part of it still. LOL.
I had a memorable session with Bulgarian Katrin a couple of years ago in Oase. I also met Ester but never sessioned with her. I agree Megan is far prettier than both of them.I sessioned with Katrina, Ester and Megan. I don't think it possible to have a session with Katrina that is not memorable. In my case I was not at my best when we met in 2018 although I did climax. I saw a lot of potential with Katrina and badly wanted to repeat. However, I never got the opportunity to meet her again and have not yet seen her reputed new nose.
Usually, Hamburg blondes means very good news for me LOL.But Gianina at Globe is brunette. I think to remember she told me she is half Hungarian.
I sessioned with Katrina, Ester and Megan. I don't think it possible to have a session with Katrina that is not memorable. In my case I was not at my best when we met in 2018 although I did climax. I saw a lot of potential with Katrina and badly wanted to repeat. However, I never got the opportunity to meet her again and have not yet seen her reputed new nose.I'm sorry but when she started at Oase, I think on 2016, had only average room, even kissing for only 50 for 30 mn, but lack of sensuality for Katrin. Never repeated. I found her much prettier with new upturned nose on 2019, but, when Romanian woman types are usually good for me, I m not too much into Bulgarians, even I loved Aylice at Sharks on 2015. Also never repeated with Ester I tried when she just arrived at Sharks on Summer 2015, lovely behavior but no wow for look and in bed.
That' true in my experience too -- most of the really pretty German girls at FKKs (not all but most) tend to be from Hamburg! In addition to Linda and the others you've listed, also I can remember way back in Palace in around 2007-2008 there was another beautiful German girl called Sophie who was also from Hamburg. Also at Artemis I recall Nele and then there was the famous model Marie from Oase -- but I never asked her which part of Germany she was from. Larissa at Harmony also. I think it might be as Ho says that Hamburg is close to Denmark. The funny thing is though that when I lived in Hamburg I didn't see so many beautiful blonde German girls -- of course I mean I did but not in any more numbers than in any other big German city.The other possibility is that they don't have to be telling the truth. Hamburg is a big city known for prostitution, it's like a stripper saying they're from Vegas. One of my German blonde faves from Palace claims Hamburg too. But Marie was from Koln, I don't think that was a lie, I could tell from how she talked about the city.
Sebastiane
04-26-20, 19:52
The other possibility is that they don't have to be telling the truth. Hamburg is a big city known for prostitution, it's like a stripper saying they're from Vegas. One of my German blonde faves from Palace claims Hamburg too. But Marie was from Koln, I don't think that was a lie, I could tell from how she talked about the city.True they could be lying but Linda, for example, knew about the various neighbourhoods of the city (I used to live in Hamburg) when we had a chat. I don't really see the point of lying because unlike Vegas, every city in Germany has a red light district with legal prostitution and FKKS etc.
The other possibility is that they don't have to be telling the truth. Hamburg is a big city known for prostitution, it's like a stripper saying they're from Vegas. One of my German blonde faves from Palace claims Hamburg too. But Marie was from Koln, I don't think that was a lie, I could tell from how she talked about the city.I know many Germans: Gigi, Ina, Tabea, telling they are from Koln. Joana from Hanover, many from poor Rhur. All Germany and all Germans are not rich. Hamburg mean most often north, but prostitution culture there.
But Gianina at Globe is brunette. I think to remember she told me she is half Hungarian.They say many things about nationalities, I never fully believe unless sometimes management tells me by mistake. But I do not have one fix type like you, I do like german stunner, but I also like romanian stunner, as long as they look in same range as models, I will go for or hottest girl in college look. I just tend to like German stunner the best in FKK because they can be most dirty.
Your session is not same level as me, it is more mental work for girls as they have to act for you to give you woman or princess session as you said it, which actually is more annoying for girls as you want to know a lot about their private lives to you claim you see their ID because you want to know which town they are from etc. Girls don't like that by the way. It is brothel, not normal bar.
My session is heavily sexual session, it involve rimming my anal, I sit on their face, their tongue in my anal, spit in mouth, DFK, a lot of licking, sucking and fucking, so it is different level and direction. I don't care about behavior I care about crazy sex in FKK, and I must say all girls in FKK they are all very nice, I only met one that was not so nice, but I fucked her hardcore in room to punish her so it is OK LOL!
They say many things about nationalities, I never fully believe unless sometimes management tells me by mistake. But I do not have one fix type like you, I do like german stunner, but I also like romanian stunner, as long as they look in same range as models, I will go for or hottest girl in college look. I just tend to like German stunner the best in FKK because they can be most dirty.
Your session is not same level as me, it is more mental work for girls as they have to act for you to give you woman or princess session as you said it, which actually is more annoying for girls as you want to know a lot about their private lives to you claim you see their ID because you want to know which town they are from etc. Girls don't like that by the way. It is brothel, not normal bar.
My session is heavily sexual session, it involve rimming my anal, I sit on their face, their tongue in my anal, spit in mouth, DFK, a lot of licking, sucking and fucking, so it is different level and direction. I don't care about behavior I care about crazy sex in FKK, and I must say all girls in FKK they are all very nice, I only met one that was not so nice, but I fucked her hardcore in room to punish her so it is OK LOL!I'm sure German girls won't say they are Romanian. Some Romanians prefer to say they are Moldavian, meaning they are from Iasie or around, or Spanish or Italian when they lived there, but I like Romanian beauties with good manners, I like they play woman with me when they experience my manners, I like to make them improve, following me. Yes, behavior and image is the most important for me, like face is the most important for me for look. From my previous life, I don't have sexual frustration, I can just thank my girlfriends for what I learned with them. When most in brothels saying you are big, not in real life, I have to be careful, not to hurt them, even some say I fuck more than 20 yo guys, my real sports pay for this. I never ask them for private information, they give me when speaking, sometimes they need to speak to put off pressure, some feel really lonely because they can't speak with family, they know about jealousy between girls so they can't trust other girls, same jealousy between guys. So they need to speak, and they can become really talkative, look at lightning face when they show child photos, sometimes with tears or crying, when I never asked for. They are prostitutes, but most often still young woman inside and I'm interested by the woman inside, even only in club. I never wrote private information: real name or address, so many would be so happy to send message to the girl. But, same like for virus, we get from girls from our behavior, from how we treat them, from what we are. I became probably the most complicated client for my best FKK girl, but each time I returned to her, she did welcome me when she had bigger money clients, she delayed them and even a guy who booked her whole week end, for me. I never thought she was in love for me, and when some think I am, from my manners with them, and girls like to have lovers as long they don t harass them, but she understood I was not for her, after stopping with her many times or answering her I won t come, I go to ski, but she always chose me first, and not the only one, but most of my regulars who are the prettiest and most often busy. There must be a reason to choose a more complicated one to manage, rather than easier bigger money, maybe because they prefer to go with the most complicated bad guy, but who treat them better with his manners and respect than others. Many told me they prefer to start their day with me, because they feel safe, relax, giving them courage for after. But I think You are right, we may be very different behavior with women. From women I had in my life, my mother and grandmother and girlfriends, I can only love women, I don't have frustration about them, only about life, and girls feel very fast how we are.
I have disclosed the FKK girls I have met with the best personality and also the best looking. Now for the best service ever received from an FKK provider and this is easy. The clear winner would be Michelle from Switzerland who I met at Oase prior to 2010. Long time FKK hobbyists would remember her. Some claimed that she was not all that great looking but she was good enough for me. She had bouncy breasts when she walked. I think I differ from many guys on this forum in that during sex I like many different positions. So after foreplay which would include DFK, BBBJ and DATY I enjoy FS in all manners of rumpy-pumpy. Well Michelle matched if not exceeded my penchant for multiple positions. In the room we experimented with positions that I am certain the Kamasutra was unaware of. She upside down, me upside down, all different angles sometimes taking a tumble off the bed, always with mirth and laughter. What a girl and what a fine mind, consistently remembering in detail the following year what we did the previous year. I wonder what these girls do after they leave the business.
I'm sure German girls won't say they are Romanian.This reminds me of the time that I asked a cute girl at Artemis if she was Romanian. She feigned being offended and said, "No, I'm German"! I whispered, "German is better". She said, "You don't have to whisper it". Ha! She had dark blonde hair, a cute face, short stature, with a nice, round butt. And still I didn't get her name, let alone fuck her hehehe!
TheNextOne
04-27-20, 17:43
Hi,
Does anyone have any information on what's up with Jurgen Rudloff & Michael Beretin?
(the guys we see in so many documentaries about Germany's brothels and FKKs).
They were on on "Mega Brothel" aired in Ch4 in 2015 (I'm assuming people here saw this great documentary).
There's a 2019 rumor going around that Beretin and Rudloff are in jail now because they used some German gangs to force girls into the business.
Is it true?
I'd appreciate any information on the subject, thanks.
Hi,
Does anyone have any information on what's up with Jurgen Rudloff & Michael Beretin?
(the guys we see in so many documentaries about Germany's brothels and FKKs).
They were on on "Mega Brothel" aired in Ch4 in 2015 (I'm assuming people here saw this great documentary).
There's a 2019 rumor going around that Beretin and Rudloff are in jail now because they used some German gangs to force girls into the business.
Is it true?
I'd appreciate any information on the subject, thanks.I don't know about these guys, but Kennan the owner of Artemis was wrongly jailed for 3 months for tax evasion, cheating social securities of girls and suspicion of connection with hells angels. But later all or most charges were dropped. The club was raided with like 800 cops with special swat team etc with guns and tactical gear, whatta show media and polizei were trying to portray.
I still remember how media wrote about Artemis, it was so wrong, they tried to make the club sound like some kind of evil ghetto fabulous place with gang, mafia and girls are forced with violence and crying during work.
I am not sure girls are not happy to work in FKK, but it is nothing like how media tried to portray Artemis during those days.
Poor Kenna the brothel owner had to jerk off on daily basis in jail for no proper reason to be there.
I'm sure German girls won't say they are Romanian. Some Romanians prefer to say they are Moldavian, meaning they are from Iasie or around, or Spanish or Italian when they lived there, but I like Romanian beauties with good manners, I like they play woman with me when they experience my manners, I like to make them improve, following me. Yes, behavior and image is the most important for me, like face is the most important for me for look. From my previous life, I don't have sexual frustration, I can just thank my girlfriends for what I learned with them. When most in brothels saying you are big, not in real life, I have to be careful, not to hurt them, even some say I fuck more than 20 yo guys, my real sports pay for this. I never ask them for private information, they give me when speaking, sometimes they need to speak to put off pressure, some feel really lonely because they can't speak with family, they know about jealousy between girls so they can't trust other girls, same jealousy between guys. So they need to speak, and they can become really talkative, look at lightning face when they show child photos, sometimes with tears or crying, when I never asked for. They are prostitutes, but most often still young woman inside and I'm interested by the woman inside, even only in club. I never wrote private information: real name or address, so many would be so happy to send message to the girl. But, same like for virus, we get from girls from our behavior, from how we treat them, from what we are..I have been to chisinau moldova twice, and Unlike romania, there in moldova I did monger as my friend there is guy, and it was really good and it is more russian direction beauties than romania actually, but it is related country.
However, I fucked so many russian beauties all over eastern europe that I prefer more western european beauties, I miss czech, polish that is different to russian beauties, austrians that are almost gone from line up and thankfully german stunners are still here and there in FKK line up.
As for romanians, there are so many, so stunners are easy to spot, so instead of complaining saying too many romanians, I like to appreciate their domination and hope for more germans or some other races to come back into FKK line up.
I have good pure tourist memory from romania with no mongering there in their home nation, but when I look at romania in news or when I hear romania, all I think about is crazy sex with all the romanian beauties I fucked LOL! I cum in their mouth, spit in their mouth, they licked my anal with toungue inside my anal, I put finger in their ass, I fucked their anal, pussies and I deep throat them, I love romanians, whatta wonderful race! LOL.
I have disclosed the FKK girls I have met with the best personality and also the best looking. Now for the best service ever received from an FKK provider and this is easy. The clear winner would be Michelle from Switzerland who I met at Oase prior to 2010. Long time FKK hobbyists would remember her. Some claimed that she was not all that great looking but she was good enough for me. She had bouncy breasts when she walked. I think I differ from many guys on this forum in that during sex I like many different positions. So after foreplay which would include DFK, BBBJ and DATY I enjoy FS in all manners of rumpy-pumpy. Well Michelle matched if not exceeded my penchant for multiple positions. In the room we experimented with positions that I am certain the Kamasutra was unaware of. She upside down, me upside down, all different angles sometimes taking a tumble off the bed, always with mirth and laughter. What a girl and what a fine mind, consistently remembering in detail the following year what we did the previous year. I wonder what these girls do after they leave the business.All the FKK girls I session with were best personality except one I met in Oase, which I seemed to caught her in bad mood and was not nice, so I did fuck her Pierre woodman style to punish her in room later LOL.
However, all the rest were best personality and all of them eventually DFK my anal LOL, for me DFK to mouth is never big problem in negotiating it is DFK to my anal aka rimjob or rimming which is big issue, some do not want to till I repeat few times LOL. But all of them eventually did and I must say they were nice enough to make my fetish come true, so I appreciate their service and willingness because these dirty memories still echoes and echoes in eternity for me.
Not just girls in FKK, but all the staffs in FKK too are nice like I often read negative comment about FKK oceans reception, I never had any issue with entrance fee or their attitude, I tell them I took the bus and it is fine, which by the way most of time, I did take the bus and those time I took the taxi, I get off at I think it is isuzu or suzuki garage just 50 m down the street, which I have more problem with taxi drivers as they know what I am doing LOL. So it is more problem with taxi drivers than oceans reception desk. Security, staffs, cleaning ladies and all girls I met in FKK are nice. Never had an issue or bad experience except one girl as I mentioned, which I turned into good session in different way anyways LOL.
Even some negative review girl like Stella at palace, which I read many report about her not doing DFK, now she is retired so I can mention, but I had no problem with DFK with her on the mouth, but it was anal rimming that was problem till I repeated few times. All girls are nice in FKK, at least 99 percent of them.
All the FKK girls I session with were best personality except one I met in Oase, which I seemed to caught her in bad mood and was not nice, so I did fuck her Pierre woodman style to punish her in room later LOL.
However, all the rest were best personality and all of them eventually DFK my anal LOL, for me DFK to mouth is never big problem in negotiating it is DFK to my anal aka rimjob or rimming which is big issue, some do not want to till I repeat few times LOL. But all of them eventually did and I must say they were nice enough to make my fetish come true, so I appreciate their service and willingness because these dirty memories still echoes and echoes in eternity for me.
Not just girls in FKK, but all the staffs in FKK too are nice like I often read negative comment about FKK oceans reception, I never had any issue with entrance fee or their attitude, I tell them I took the bus and it is fine, which by the way most of time, I did take the bus and those time I took the taxi, I get off at I think it is isuzu or suzuki garage just 50 m down the street, which I have more problem with taxi drivers as they know what I am doing LOL. So it is more problem with taxi drivers than oceans reception desk. Security, staffs, cleaning ladies and all girls I met in FKK are nice. Never had an issue or bad experience except one girl as I mentioned, which I turned into good session in different way anyways LOL.
Even some negative review girl like Stella at palace, which I read many report about her not doing DFK, now she is retired so I can mention, but I had no problem with DFK with her on the mouth, but it was anal rimming that was problem till I repeated few times. All girls are nice in FKK, at least 99 percent of them.I do not have such exotic tastes like you such as DFK anal. I like BBBJ very much but so few girls do it fantastically. Perhaps 1 out of every 100 girls can do a fantastic BJ. By fantastic I mean that I am lying on the bed and the girl is blowing me and has me stretching and wriggling my body, Banging my fists on the bed and twitching and kicking my legs wildly. I don't know how or what they are doing, perhaps they have something in their mouths although I never really inquired. When I get that experience I like the BBBJ more than FS or even BBFS and inevitably CIM. I have had that experience only in the Caribbean and Brazil.
As to DFK anal I don't ask that of any provider and take it only when initiated by the girl. It has never been offered to me in FKK. That being said it was always part of the package in saunas that I went to in China and also in Thailand. I actually don't really like it and could do without it. DFK on the mouth is much better for me although now you have me considering where that mouth might have been.
I do not have such exotic tastes like you such as DFK anal. I like BBBJ very much but so few girls do it fantastically. Perhaps 1 out of every 100 girls can do a fantastic BJ. By fantastic I mean that I am lying on the bed and the girl is blowing me and has me stretching and wriggling my body, Banging my fists on the bed and twitching and kicking my legs wildly. I don't know how or what they are doing, perhaps they have something in their mouths although I never really inquired. When I get that experience I like the BBBJ more than FS or even BBFS and inevitably CIM. I have had that experience only in the Caribbean and Brazil.For me, sometimes it isn't necessarily that the BBBJ is out of this world, but I'm so turned on the by the girl that she still gets the job done. I mean, there has got to be some good technique there, but I can still enjoy the BJ very much so if the girl really turns me on. Like blue-eyed, blonde Lilia from Kiel, Germany at Artemis. Was her BBBJ / CIM the absolute best I ever had? No, but it was good enough, and she was so hot that I exploded a huge, huge, huge load of thick sperm all over her lips and mouth. For me, the best BBBJs have been from Brazilian girls, with the best being a Brasiliera I discovered at Globe. Sucked my dick so good had my legs literally levitating up off of the bed hahaha! Spurted all in her greedy mouth. I didn't get CIM service so much until I thought it was going away. Then, I started paying for it with every session LOL!
Sebastiane
04-28-20, 18:46
However, all the rest were best personality and all of them eventually DFK my anal LOL, for me DFK to mouth is never big problem in negotiating it is DFK to my anal aka rimjob or rimming which is big issue, some do not want to till I repeat few times LOL. But all of them eventually did and I must say they were nice enough to make my fetish come true, so I appreciate their service and willingness because these dirty memories still echoes and echoes in eternity for me.I also like getting my ass licked by girls; some of them refuse but the majority agree especially if its my second or third time with them and especially if I've made them cum after DATY first. Mr. Ho, did Linda agree to rim you?
Let's have some fun while we wait for the clubs to open back up. Everyone chime in and answer this question-.
If all the FKKs opened back up on the same day, which club would be your first choice to visit? And why is this your favorite club?
Let's have some fun while we wait for the clubs to open back up. Everyone chime in and answer this question-.
If all the FKKs opened back up on the same day, which club would be your first choice to visit? And why is this your favorite club?Whenever I go on a trip, I like to mix things up with something old and something new. I will typically start out with the familiar, and for me, when it comes to Germany that means flying into Frankfurt and hitting Palace on the very first afternoon / evening. I can't say that Palace is my favorite FKK, but it is one of them. Besides, there's some sentimental feelings for me around the place since Palace was the very first FKK that I ever went to, and my very first favorite FKK girl was blonde, Czech Gina (before she messed up her face and body with plastic surgery).
Let's have some fun while we wait for the clubs to open back up. Everyone chime in and answer this question-.
If all the FKKs opened back up on the same day, which club would be your first choice to visit? And why is this your favorite club?What I miss most are my beloved mountains, real deep frustration for no ski. Since my last FKK day on 14 March, only 1 escort on 1 April. When I crossed Paris for wow look Liana, but found another girl, even she looked sweet, smiling lovely, but not wow look, when she asked: you don't like me? I left. I manage easy. Look forward my climbing as soon as possible. Brothels can't compete.
Sebastiane
04-28-20, 23:13
What I miss most are my beloved mountains, real deep frustration for no ski. Since my last FKK day on 14 March, only 1 escort on 1 April. When I crossed Paris for wow look Liana, but found another girl, even she looked sweet, smiling lovely, but not wow look, when she asked: you don't like me? I left. I manage easy. Look forward my climbing as soon as possible. Brothels can't compete.In Germany, I'd go to FKK Palace followed by Oase.
In Switzerland, Globe.
I do not have such exotic tastes like you such as DFK anal. I like BBBJ very much but so few girls do it fantastically. Perhaps 1 out of every 100 girls can do a fantastic BJ. By fantastic I mean that I am lying on the bed and the girl is blowing me and has me stretching and wriggling my body, Banging my fists on the bed and twitching and kicking my legs wildly. I don't know how or what they are doing, perhaps they have something in their mouths although I never really inquired. When I get that experience I like the BBBJ more than FS or even BBFS and inevitably CIM. I have had that experience only in the Caribbean and Brazil.
As to DFK anal I don't ask that of any provider and take it only when initiated by the girl. It has never been offered to me in FKK. That being said it was always part of the package in saunas that I went to in China and also in Thailand. I actually don't really like it and could do without it. DFK on the mouth is much better for me although now you have me considering where that mouth might have been.I have to ask and negotiate, but once in a while girls rim me for free included in session, but that is rare like once or twice per year, more like once LOL, but it is nice when it happens because rimming is usually extra. I can comment on it as now she quit the job and I only comment on girls who quit, Geraldine the Hungarian stunner in Artemis used to rim me for free in one hour session that I repeated over almost two years, but eventually she only came to take one old client who took her for whole day, and other clients had no room to book her, but hey two years was more than enough, I get bit bored after fucking same girl for one year, rest are more like engrave the session into my memory sessions, but regular sessions are always nice, just no so refreshing. I love it more when I find new stunner walking into main bar of FKK and I am like wow, then I feel this sense of gratitude and feel so alive.
Some girls say they don't do rimjob, but eventually as I repeat, they open up and rim me, but usually it is 50 euro extra except for some lucky included sessions as I mentioned above, but it is rare only once or twice per year.
What I miss most are my beloved mountains, real deep frustration for no ski. Since my last FKK day on 14 March, only 1 escort on 1 April. When I crossed Paris for wow look Liana, but found another girl, even she looked sweet, smiling lovely, but not wow look, when she asked: you don't like me? I left. I manage easy. Look forward my climbing as soon as possible. Brothels can't compete.You are not allowed to go to mountain alone? I mean you are not disturbing anybody or putting anyone in danger of infection. For ski, you need a lift, so you can do cross country skiing by walking up the mountain and ski down. Laws forbid you to do this?
At least you are not missing your fake session with prostitutes in brothel or escort, but missing real beautiful nature.
And at least, we already fucked in FKK land this year already, the fortune of mongering was on our side LOL! One thing for sure is I live best sex life since age 17 fucking all the stunners how I want LOL!
Even FKK open, it maybe wise to wait little bit unless you want to destroy lung, it probably wise to go back to FKK sometimes later in summer before winter arrives, but not too fast.
I do not have such exotic tastes like you such as DFK anal. I like BBBJ very much but so few girls do it fantastically. Perhaps 1 out of every 100 girls can do a fantastic BJ. By fantastic I mean that I am lying on the bed and the girl is blowing me and has me stretching and wriggling my body, Banging my fists on the bed and twitching and kicking my legs wildly. I don't know how or what they are doing, perhaps they have something in their mouths although I never really inquired. When I get that experience I like the BBBJ more than FS or even BBFS and inevitably CIM. I have had that experience only in the Caribbean and Brazil.
As to DFK anal I don't ask that of any provider and take it only when initiated by the girl. It has never been offered to me in FKK. That being said it was always part of the package in saunas that I went to in China and also in Thailand. I actually don't really like it and could do without it. DFK on the mouth is much better for me although now you have me considering where that mouth might have been.I agree, skillful for BJ = able to read your reactions, to find sensitive spots, are quite rare. Most are little robots with ice cream or bone.
In Germany, I'd go to FKK Palace followed by Oase.
In Switzerland, Globe.I think I would look at Amesia tagesplan first. Amesia have more interesting girls for me now, more close to normal life for behavior, more charm for me, for less expensive than Globe which fell for me for charm and level of looks. When I think about Globe now, since beginning of 2019, only 1 target to discover, but no need to rush to. Freubad during Summer can also worth with garden with swimming pool, can eat outside, and the closest to my mountains. But knowing Swiss and Germans, I think Austria may reopen first, even Carinthia on Italian border may be at risk. Maybe time to discover wonderful Vienna, since I listen to Ultravox on 1980. In France, no real freedom until beginning of June, but wish to run to Dolomiti for my holidays climbing tour. At the moment, I worry much more about economic crisis and to save my earning on same level, than brothels. I don t miss so much, when I miss much more oxygen in my blood. When open, I can go nearly when I want because I can most often organize to work from where I want, not possible under virus because I have to make respect too many safety working rules, but when closed, I can manage without, when I miss so much my real sports. Really sad winter which is my favorite season, for me.
Whenever I go on a trip, I like to mix things up with something old and something new. I will typically start out with the familiar, and for me, when it comes to Germany that means flying into Frankfurt and hitting Palace on the very first afternoon / evening. I can't say that Palace is my favorite FKK, but it is one of them. Besides, there's some sentimental feelings for me around the place since Palace was the very first FKK that I ever went to, and my very first favorite FKK girl was blonde, Czech Gina (before she messed up her face and body with plastic surgery).I like your idea of something old and something new. Cheapest flights across the pond are into AMS or Frankfurt. If AMS, I will sadly miss YY but will still enjoy my old favorite GT. Even when the LU is stale at GT, it's good to hang out with fellow ice bears, good group of mongers there. If I land at Frankfurt, I will be tempted by Sharks but will choose Oase because I like the optics at the hot tub and food area. I have never been to Palace but for something new, maybe I can drive to Globe. As for Siri and his mountains, I am only capable of climbing the stairs at sharks, and only for an amazing Ro!
I like your idea of something old and something new. Cheapest flights across the pond are into AMS or Frankfurt. If AMS, I will sadly miss YY but will still enjoy my old favorite GT. Even when the LU is stale at GT, it's good to hang out with fellow ice bears, good group of mongers there. If I land at Frankfurt, I will be tempted by Sharks but will choose Oase because I like the optics at the hot tub and food area. I have never been to Palace but for something new, maybe I can drive to Globe. As for Siri and his mountains, I am only capable of climbing the stairs at sharks, and only for an amazing Ro!If you climb 10 times a day, Sharks stairs to room, a bit of sport. If you are able to fuck for about 30 mn without finishing in 1mn30, also good for heart. When I'm lucky to find a attractive girl, I prefer to take her hand, starting foreplay, when she is on high heels. Attractive are so rare for me, if she falls and break something, then I can just lick my dick, when most often, no second target.
BackpackBrian
04-29-20, 06:32
Let's have some fun while we wait for the clubs to open back up. Everyone chime in and answer this question-.
If all the FKKs opened back up on the same day, which club would be your first choice to visit? And why is this your favorite club?Although I rarely go because there's only one FKK in Berlin, Artemis was, in my opinion, the best of them all.
The size, food, entertainment / bar area, wellness area downstairs, women! And something about Berlin.
There was a tall, tan, shiny / oily skinned Polish girl with a clit piercing. Laura, I think was her name. Her body was always so tan and shiny with incredible thigh gap.
After 2008-2010 I looked for her at Artemis and was told she went down to Globe.
I went looking for her but never found her, as the other girls said "she went normal". Haha!
Now, years later, I arrive in Frankfurt and hit Palace as my first spot, then Sharks, then Mainhatten. Palace was good 10+ years ago too.
It's still ok, back then there were lots of tall supermodel looking blonds, natural, sexy, etc but now most are nasty and want $100. I'm still a cheap $50 for everything guy. Haha!
After 10-15 days or so in Frankfurt, I'll travel by train down to Zurich and hit up Globe and a few others. Something about all the kissing at Globe brings me back.
Then I'll come back and either head to Berlin for a week or so or head over to Dusseldorf / Cologne to a couple of cheaper places that I like for the prices and food!
Ex. Samya - $30/ entrance + great food + $30/ girl BBBJ + FS for 30 min.
PinballMachine
04-29-20, 08:54
I don't know about these guys, but Kennan the owner of Artemis was wrongly jailed for 3 months for tax evasion, cheating social securities of girls and suspicion of connection with hells angels. But later all or most charges were dropped. The club was raided with like 800 cops with special swat team etc with guns and tactical gear, whatta show media and polizei were trying to portray.
I still remember how media wrote about Artemis, it was so wrong, they tried to make the club sound like some kind of evil ghetto fabulous place with gang, mafia and girls are forced with violence and crying during work.
I am not sure girls are not happy to work in FKK, but it is nothing like how media tried to portray Artemis during those days.
Poor Kenna the brothel owner had to jerk off on daily basis in jail for no proper reason to be there.Why on earth did they need 800 cops?
What were they expecting?
Was there ever an explanation to that?
What I miss most are my beloved mountains, real deep frustration for no ski. Since my last FKK day on 14 March, only 1 escort on 1 April. When I crossed Paris for wow look Liana, but found another girl, even she looked sweet, smiling lovely, but not wow look, when she asked: you don't like me? I left. I manage easy. Look forward my climbing as soon as possible. Brothels can't compete.It is so fortunate when one can enjoy nature more than mongering. As for me when I was a teenager with raging hormones I enjoyed sports (baseball, football, soccer) and nature (such as hiking and surfing) more than sex. But then tragedy struck when I dislocated my knee playing football at age 21. I could no longer do what I did before and turned to sex for comfort. There has been no looking back since.
I look forward to the reopening of FKKs where I can indulge in sexercize with my favorites, Europeans.
BigBuddy69
04-29-20, 14:21
Totally so a nature lover should spend his weekends in the woods and not in his car or in a sexclub. So many nice landscapes to enjoy in Europe.
Kamsutra69
04-29-20, 16:46
52 days since any action. Fuck corona.
52 days since any action. Fuck corona.I don't know m8! Perhaps dicks have shrunk slightly since the lockdowns, but fucking a corona virus would probably be hard even for the smallest dicks among us.
Kamsutra69
04-29-20, 20:02
Haha. It's more the other way around right now.
I don't know m8! Perhaps dicks have shrunk slightly since the lockdowns, but fucking a corona virus would probably be hard even for the smallest dicks among us.
It is so fortunate when one can enjoy nature more than mongering. As for me when I was a teenager with raging hormones I enjoyed sports (baseball, football, soccer) and nature (such as hiking and surfing) more than sex. But then tragedy struck when I dislocated my knee playing football at age 21. I could no longer do what I did before and turned to sex for comfort. There has been no looking back since.
I look forward to the reopening of FKKs where I can indulge in sexercize with my favorites, Europeans.Since confined, no ski is a really big frustration for my mind. As soon, we are allowed in France, I speed to climb. Only 1 escort since mid March, when I was used to have about 6 times with girls per week, but I m not in the mood, only to work, so I don't miss much. From my German friend when many Germans are jealous, German brothels should not reopen before Summer, meaning maybe after Summer, so after my climbing tour. Maybe Austria and Switzerland will reopen earlier. I don't think for Spain.
There was a blonde girl with a Moslem sounding name. Fatima? Forgot. Really pretty, amazing DFK. Was 5 or 6 years ago. Absolutely loved her. Artemis was not my go to club by any stretch but she was one of the bright lights of my trips for a few trips in those days. In those days Atemis used to see a good number of Kino fucks. While public sex is not my thing, this chick gave me one of the few public BJs I have agreed to and it was worth it, as there were a couple of other couples fucking in eye sight while I enjoyed my BJ.
Why on earth did they need 800 cops?
What were they expecting?
Was there ever an explanation to that?You can google it, it was something ridiculous like 800 cops, but some with full tactical gear.
Why? Politic and also to put up the show.
MY guess is real behind the scene for the raid is that owners did not pay under the table money enough. Like did not employ politician or high ranked police man's son or something like that.
In the end, they found nothing or not much and he was released after few months.
Since confined, no ski is a really big frustration for my mind. As soon, we are allowed in France, I speed to climb. Only 1 escort since mid March, when I was used to have about 6 times with girls per week, but I m not in the mood, only to work, so I don't miss much. From my German friend when many Germans are jealous, German brothels should not reopen before Summer, meaning maybe after Summer, so after my climbing tour. Maybe Austria and Switzerland will reopen earlier. I don't think for Spain.You said you are used to about 6 girls per week? You also claimed you drive to German FKK every weekend.
That would be you are mongering everyday. And you also claimed you are poor. It is hard to believe siri LOL! How? LOL.
Is it common for men to walk around naked in an FKK? What about erections? I went to a nude beach once and really couldn't keep it down much.
Is it common for men to walk around naked in an FKK? What about erections? I went to a nude beach once and really couldn't keep it down much.In the showers, you will be naked with other men unless you choose not to shower. Also, at the lockers when changing. If you take a swim or sit in sauna, you could be naked. You can strut around naked if you want to, no one will likely stop you. You can also fuck a girl in the open if she agrees to public sex. Not too many guys are naked in the main lounges, in fact almost none.
Do you get hard wood when in the presence of naked chicks, or naked men?
My guess is that it will he novel for a few minutes then you will get used to the scenery and lose your hardness just like the rest of us.
Oh, for the glorious youth when I used to get hard just looking at a naked chick, or even girls in bikinis on the beach, or girls in playboy magazine!
Is it common for men to walk around naked in an FKK? What about erections? I went to a nude beach once and really couldn't keep it down much.[Deleted by Admin] I have seen some monger walking around in German FKK butt naked few times. There was this really old guy in Artemis, who walk around the main bar totally nude LOL and that seems to be all he does while he is in Artemis, just walk around totally nude, sometimes with erection (with Viagra?) LOL. It maybe he lost it a bit because he seemed really old, at least 75 or it is his fetish to do so. Whatever make him happy.
Although I rarely go because there's only one FKK in Berlin, Artemis was, in my opinion, the best of them all.
The size, food, entertainment / bar area, wellness area downstairs, women! And something about Berlin.
There was a tall, tan, shiny / oily skinned Polish girl with a clit piercing. Laura, I think was her name. Her body was always so tan and shiny with incredible thigh gap.
After 2008-2010 I looked for her at Artemis and was told she went down to Globe.
I went looking for her but never found her, as the other girls said "she went normal". Haha!
Now, years later, I arrive in Frankfurt and hit Palace as my first spot, then Sharks, then Mainhatten. Palace was good 10+ years ago too.
It's still ok, back then there were lots of tall supermodel looking blonds, natural, sexy, etc but now most are nasty and want $100. I'm still a cheap $50 for everything guy. Haha!
After 10-15 days or so in Frankfurt, I'll travel by train down to Zurich and hit up Globe and a few others. Something about all the kissing at Globe brings me back.
Then I'll come back and either head to Berlin for a week or so or head over to Dusseldorf / Cologne to a couple of cheaper places that I like for the prices and food!
Ex. Samya - $30/ entrance + great food + $30/ girl BBBJ + FS for 30 min.So here is my plan for FKK after corona is over. I like the idea of DFK GFE long appointment at Globe. But first I must improve my stamina like Siri says. I will go to Sharks and climb the stairs up and down 10 times, then find a Ro with high heels and bang her out for 60 minutes without any finish. It's good to have a plan LMAO.
Treble Machine
04-30-20, 08:07
Is it common for men to walk around naked in an FKK? What about erections? I went to a nude beach once and really couldn't keep it down much.You will be given a robe or a towel to hide your meatworm.
Casual nudity still happens and nobody will care about your schwanzstücker.
You said you are used to about 6 girls per week? You also claimed you drive to German FKK every weekend.
That would be you are mongering everyday. And you also claimed you are poor. It is hard to believe siri LOL! How? LOL.When you live in Paris, you have Russian escorts for after job on week days, I usually behave with the girl to get no rush for nearly 1 hour for 200, when 1 hour rate is 250. Many Parisians leave Paris for week end, I mean before virus, so I go to my FKK land datcha, looking for beauties, unfortunately too rare for me, mostly Romanians which is a quality for me when the girl is attractive. I used to speed after job on Thursday evening to arrive around 9/10 pm when I woke up at 5/6 am, spent sometimes until Monday evening, driving back for work on Monday night, 5 days per week in FKK land, but not for my holidays, and I can't compete with some and one I know who is 6 days per week in FKK land. We sometimes meet at Globe, Amesia, Sharks, Finca. As a cheap French but lover, when German Stella said: I don't sell love, like all those who think like this, she had no cheap French money and could turn around with no business whole afternoon. Same for Reina. Ro at LR staying sitting close to entry and prettier than Stella, but only warming her ass on tool. So I left Palace on this 10 May 2014, moved to World who is the only magic club I know, when Sharks, GT, Globe now, are fuck factory, and at the end of the night, discovered a wow Romanian. We started at 4.20 am, we finished at 5 am, for 50. I asked her: will you work on next Saturday? She looked at me because she knew I lived far, she asked with her round black eyes: why? I'm pretty sure thinking what a liar like all others, so I told her: just tell me, she said: Yes. Club was closing. On next Saturday, when I arrived at 7/8 pm, she ran straight to me. I had weekly appointment with Isabella, but this perfect Romanian woman made me drive 1300 kilometers weekly for her for 1 year, I also drove 1000 kms weekly for a LR girl but for only about 6/7 months. I loved autobahn curves around Ulmen Nurburgring, I loved to go to Nurburgring, I loved to make jump car between Limburg and Giessen. Sometimes I left Paris at 4.30/5 pm, drove to World, had 2 rooms with her, her only business, sometimes I was sad to see her sitting waiting when such wow look, but as I told her at this time: she was too pretty, too chic and classy look for World. After second room when I had micro sleep while she took care of me, so she asked: You don t like? Because you are sleeping when I try to give you pleasure, she just made me feel relax and after I drove back to work at 4 am, making again car jumping, arriving in Paris at 10 am. 1300 kms, a diner, sandwiches at 4 am for who know World, 2 1 hour rooms with a wow Romanian perfect woman, in 17 hours, just a good sporty night racing and loving, more interesting than sleeping. While my huge datcha week ends, I work or write at night, I work to make my cheap earning to pay. Cheap French paid at least 1,5 million € for tax only on my earnings, not on what I buy, and under virus, I was at work on the field, not from my bed with mask and gloves, to save my job and my full earnings, and will even get bonus for my risks nobody else is taking instead of me, to make keeping on my job, paying tax for french economy which is falling, from a cheap french guy but at least with balls. Maybe why I can manage to meet many girls, loving them, making them feel woman, so most return straight when seeing me, managing for no rush, lower rate, with some. Manners pay like money from my subjective experience.
Member #4733
04-30-20, 13:07
You will be given a robe or a towel to hide your meatworm. Casual nudity still happens and nobody will care about your schwanzstcker.In most clubs you can stay in the sun, fully nude. But after all these years I do not know one club that allows men to go naked in the club. Please enlighten me.
Member #4733
04-30-20, 14:21
Hi,
Does anyone have any information on what's up with Jurgen Rudloff & Michael Beretin?
(the guys we see in so many documentaries about Germany's brothels and FKKs).
They were on on "Mega Brothel" aired in Ch4 in 2015 (I'm assuming people here saw this great documentary).
There's a 2019 rumor going around that Beretin and Rudloff are in jail now because they used some German gangs to force girls into the business.
Is it true?
I'd appreciate any information on the subject, thanks.Just google their names. You will find this one among others http://www.fondationscelles.org/en/news/264-condamnation-de-jurgen-rudloff-la-fin-du-paradis.
Just to be clear, fucking as many girls you possibly can and eating all day for 79 euros does raise my eyebrows. I heard of one guy (Belgian) who did 9 girls on one day, for 79 euros.
Somebody mixed these convicted criminals with Artemis. One should not do that. In Artemis there were a few girls (six actually) that had to pay their earnings to Hell's Angels motorclub members. They got one girl to testify against her former pimp and then they tried to blame Artemis. They mixed this link to HA and sexual exploitation with tax evasion. But Artemis staff had already warned about a spooky situation to the police before the girl started talking. The police did not pay notice to the club management message but later started an action against them. They initially succeeded but when the lawyers produced this info the court had no case against Artemis anymore. Next to that Artemis was accused of tax evasion. About 17 million euro was the money that girls have to pay to Artemis as tax and that Artemis will pay to the tax services. Another six million was company tax that went missing. I don't know how this tax matter is resolved. There is not much in the press about it. But I cannot imagine the managers were exonerated with 23 million gone missing. Another thing is the number of police men. German press states 900 men in total. But 250 of them were not at Artemis in Berlin but actually at property of Artemis management and owners in the western part of the country. They also closed the road in front of Artemis and girls and clients were taken to the police station to make a statement. All of these people involved are included in the number of 900. So I thought only a few hundred of them actually entered Artemis. Most miserable for me was that my favorite girl never returned after the razzia. Being taken to the police station to make a statement simply was too much for her.
There are many articles in the German press about this. I tried to give a quick summary of them here.
http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/berli...temis-23888632
http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/berli...nburg-23883004
Sebastiane
04-30-20, 17:31
When you live in Paris, you have Russian escorts for after job on week days, I usually behave with the girl to get no rush for nearly 1 hour for 200, when 1 hour rate is 250. Many Parisians leave Paris for week end, I mean before virus, so I go to my FKK land datcha, looking for beauties, unfortunately too rare for me, mostly Romanians which is a quality for me when the girl is attractive. I used to speed after job on Thursday evening to arrive around 9/10 pm when I woke up at 5/6 am, spent sometimes until Monday evening, driving back for work on Monday night, 5 days per week in FKK land, but not for my holidays, and I can't compete with some and one I know who is 6 days per week in FKK land. We sometimes meet at Globe, Amesia, Sharks, Finca. As a cheap French but lover, when German Stella said: I don't sell love, like all those who think like this, she had no cheap French money and could turn around with no business whole afternoon. Same for Reina. Ro at LR staying sitting close to entry and prettier than Stella, but only warming her ass on tool. So I left Palace on this 10 May 2014, moved to World who is the only magic club I know, when Sharks, GT, Globe now, are fuck factory, and at the end of the night, discovered a wow Romanian. We started at 4.20 am, we finished at 5 am, for 50. I asked her: will you work on next Saturday? She looked at me because she knew I lived far, she asked with her round black eyes: why? I'm pretty sure thinking what a liar like all others, so I told her: just tell me, she said: Yes. Club was closing..Wow that is what you call an addiction to pussy! Who was the Romanian girl at World?
Is it common for men to walk around naked in an FKK? What about erections? I went to a nude beach once and really couldn't keep it down much.I'm surprised some guys seem more interested by some other guys than by girls. Sometimes, some guys are full naked, but most often not the best looks nor the biggest size, often big belly. Sometimes funny under shower but I won't describe, but I prefer shower together, but with your girl, at Globe. What is also funny for me is granny Sylvana / Donatela at GT gets the best looks and some return with banana on face, really incredible.
In most clubs you can stay in the sun, fully nude. But after all these years I do not know one club that allows men to go naked in the club. Please enlighten me.It is a Frei-körper-kultur, free body culture environment. I doubt men are forbidden from baring it all if they so wanted to; however, I think most men want to keep their stuff to themselves in the main lounges and I am thankful. Not that I am homophobic, but I go to clubs for the T&A show of the girls.
What I see is that some of the Turkish and other men have been wearing underwear under their robes and I don't get it. These guys look mean and buff, why are they so shy? Who the fuck cares to see their junk anyway? To each his own I guess.
Treble Machine
04-30-20, 20:22
Please enlighten me.I said casual, as in irregular, non permanent.
Just google their names. You will find this one among others http://www.fondationscelles.org/en/news/264-condamnation-de-jurgen-rudloff-la-fin-du-paradis.
Just to be clear, fucking as many girls you possibly can and eating all day for 79 euros does raise my eyebrows. I heard of one guy (Belgian) who did 9 girls on one day, for 79 euros.
Just to be clear Paradise was never an all inclusive brothel. The rate was 50 EUR per 30 minutes. So if some Belgian guy did 9 girls then it was a minimum of 450 Euros in addition to the 79 Euros.
The article you linked to is misleading in that it states "Essentially supermarkets for sex, the "Paradise" establishments attract around 300 sex buyers each day, each of whom pay an entrance fee of 79 euros. With this fee, they are able to consume food, beverages, sex at their will. " and then adds "To settle their debt to the property owner, prostituted people must have relations with at least 4 sex buyers throughout the day. ". Given their mission statement, fondationscelles probably isn't the best place to get reliable information about the business model employed by this former FKK club.
Wow that is what you call an addiction to pussy! Who was the Romanian girl at World?When I started in FKK land, I didn't know so much Romanian girls, I was more into Russian escorts, but she is the one who changed my tastes for looks. Not my best for love in bed even high level but records are made to be broken, but the most perfect woman for care for herself, I have ever seen in my life. Many times, I was her only business, I was a bit sad for her, but great time for me. 29 yo Romanian with sporty body and elegance. On Saturday 26 April 2015 , back from Orthodox Easter, I didn't believe her, but she made my dream come true, tasting her natural taste, it was just magic.
Given the current crisis, I suspect some mongers are getting messages from WGs requesting money. I believe this video is a cautionary tale. While the main character is not a monger, he is a hopeless romantic. And this Ukrainian girl is coldly draining his bank account. It also shows you that rich guys are not necessarily the best targets. The video pulls viewers in, because you are basically watching a high-speed car crash:
https://youtu.be/XyEO64M9LBE
I had said this before, but the state of financial status of mongers is as much of a question whenever clubs open, as is the financial status of the WGs.
For instance, take the GDP news out of Europe. First quarter was four times as bad as it was in US.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/eurozone-economy-suffers-record-contraction-steeper-than-u-s-11588242162?mod=hp_lead_pos2
Annualized basis, US declined 4.8% in 1 Q and Eurozone declined 14.4% per WSJ.
France declined 21% per WSJ. That is the worst since 1949.
And as this WSJ article says and as many other media articles say, second quarter will be much worse than 1 Q.
With job losses being as bad as they are in US, I wonder how Europe can hold up. Politico said a quarter of all European jobs are at risk due to Corona. May be there will not be outright layoffs as in US. Our labor markets are flexible and not so in Europe. Still, salary cuts, less hours, other things are possible.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/19/quarter-of-europes-jobs-at-risk-from-coronavirus-crisis-195465
I can't imagine all the mongers will be in such a great shape when the clubs resume. May be the hardcore monger, not necessarily richer but definitely more dedicated will spend whatever savings he has on mongering especially as he is all backed up due to this shutdown. But the casual monger, who is the majority of the attendees, will have less to spend.
On the plus side, Romanian economy is equally trashed.
https://business-review.eu/money/finance/br-analysis-coronavirus-to-take-high-toll-on-romanian-economy-209743
The business review article says Romanian economy is at least as bad as French economy. I. e down 20%. Unemployment is rampant. Also, in favor of the US monger is that Dollar Leu exchange has significantly improved in favor of dollar.
All this means whenever clubs open, if you US monger have been able to stay in good financial shape in this period, kept your job, your income level and also stock market positions, then you are in drivers seat when this opens up.
It is a Frei-krper-kultur, free body culture environment. I doubt men are forbidden from baring it all if they so wanted to; however, I think most men want to keep their stuff to themselves in the main lounges and I am thankful. Not that I am homophobic, but I go to clubs for the T&A show of the girls.
What I see is that some of the Turkish and other men have been wearing underwear under their robes and I don't get it. These guys look mean and buff, why are they so shy? Who the fuck cares to see their junk anyway? To each his own I guess.Before 2010 I recall many men used to go nude in Oase especially around the swimming pool. There was this one German guy who used to enjoy shagging the girls in the open in full view of everyone. He actually sometimes had some blokes standing around his girl and himself spectating. No one complained. Everyone knows that if you went to the kino in Oase back then you saw not only porn on the screeen but were guaranteed to see live porn performed by many couples. Male nudity was common but not so much now.
Male nudity was common but not so much now.And considering some of the naked male sights I've seen, I'm quite glad about that!
Just google their names. You will find this one among others http://www.fondationscelles.org/en/news/264-condamnation-de-jurgen-rudloff-la-fin-du-paradis.
Just to be clear, fucking as many girls you possibly can and eating all day for 79 euros does raise my eyebrows. I heard of one guy (Belgian) who did 9 girls on one day, for 79 euros.
Somebody mixed these convicted criminals with Artemis. One should not do that. In Artemis there were a few girls (six actually) that had to pay their earnings to Hell's Angels motorclub members. They got one girl to testify against her former pimp and then they tried to blame Artemis. They mixed this link to HA and sexual exploitation with tax evasion. But Artemis staff had already warned about a spooky situation to the police before the girl started talking. The police did not pay notice to the club management message but later started an action against them. They initially succeeded but when the lawyers produced this info the court had no case against Artemis anymore. Next to that Artemis was accused of tax evasion. About 17 million euro was the money that girls have to pay to Artemis as tax and that Artemis will pay to the tax services. Another six million was company tax that went missing.I was not at Artemis during this raid, but I was at Artemis during the time when the fire alarm went off, police came and ordered everyone in club to be evacuated from the building and man, it was surreal scene, just bunch of guys with bathrobes and girls with towels standing in parking plot of Artemis in cold winter LOL. It was false alarm, but it took like 30 min or bit longer till we were allowed back into Artemis, then it was business as usual after. I must say how police was treating this fire alarm matter was rather aggressive toward Artemis staffs, I saw few occasions police shouting at management and also one client was arguing rather aggressively with police.
I always thought such business like brothels are closely run with retired high ranking police officer or someone related to politician or high ranking bureaucrat on board of director or on advisory board, but it seemed as though Artemis was targeted due to some political motive. Police just used these girls testimony as tool to get Artemis, which in the end, they failed.
23 million euro wow, it is quite large some and it is cash business, so I guess he had it cash, so I feel Artemis would be just fine to survive through this pandemic time shut down without any problem of owner change.
I like Kennan and how he run Artemis, so I hope Artemis stays as same owner ship. And my last visit to Artemis in 2019 summer, I was quite happy with line up finally, so I wish Artemis will come back strong after this pandemic.
I still rate Artemis as best line up of all FKK between year 2009 till 2013ish, it was the best diverse line up with enough stunners, I will always miss the line up of those days, it was easier to find stunner one after another. Well, I still find them, so I am grateful for that.
When I started in FKK land, I didn't know so much Romanian girls, I was more into Russian escorts, but she is the one who changed my tastes for looks. Not my best for love in bed even high level but records are made to be broken, but the most perfect woman for care for herself, I have ever seen in my life. Many times, I was her only business, I was a bit sad for her, but great time for me. 29 yo Romanian with sporty body and elegance. On Saturday 26 April 2015 , back from Orthodox Easter, I didn't believe her, but she made my dream come true, tasting her natural taste, it was just magic.Well if Stella at Palace did not even DFK you, you don't have too much other choices, but go for Romanians and they dominates most of line up anyways LOL!
It is a Frei-krper-kultur, free body culture environment. I doubt men are forbidden from baring it all if they so wanted to; however, I think most men want to keep their stuff to themselves in the main lounges and I am thankful. Not that I am homophobic, but I go to clubs for the T&A show of the girls.
What I see is that some of the Turkish and other men have been wearing underwear under their robes and I don't get it. These guys look mean and buff, why are they so shy? Who the fuck cares to see their junk anyway? To each his own I guess.What amaze me is when taking shower with underwear, even socks and I even saw with casquette and sunglasses, so they don t wash anything. I don t know what girls can find under. When I like to wash my dick for long time, putting off skin, I remember Megan looking at me, for sure she never saw like this before. I like to stay long time under shower when very hot, sometimes nearly 30 mn, this relax my mind, kill pain in some bones and funny to see some others. Remind me when we took shower when we played football when 15 yo, small size were turned to the wall and moving with hands hiding, normal size were proud to show. Normal size mean to be told You are big in brothels.
When I started in FKK land, I didn't know so much Romanian girls, I was more into Russian escorts, but she is the one who changed my tastes for looks. Not my best for love in bed even high level but records are made to be broken, but the most perfect woman for care for herself, I have ever seen in my life. Many times, I was her only business, I was a bit sad for her, but great time for me. 29 yo Romanian with sporty body and elegance. On Saturday 26 April 2015 , back from Orthodox Easter, I didn't believe her, but she made my dream come true, tasting her natural taste, it was just magic.When I started, I looked for blond, but not fake blond prostitute looks, really not easy to find. She was long black hair, dark eyes, but I fall in love for her look, her care for herself, for her hair, her skin and body, her teeth, her nails, she was obsessed about her look. I think the only FKK girl I learned from, from her level for woman care, she became my standard for woman care and hygiene. When at GT, girls don t have shower to wash, most of GT girls don t take shower from their arrival until they finish, this Romanian woman took shower between all her rooms, washed her mouth, she needed at least 15 mn between rooms and she didn't need to put off and on underwear because she was full full naked at World, only red evening high heels, not prostitutes plastic high heels, sometimes nearly 30 mn, when she told me: now I can t work after you. She washed her mouth after eating. I remember on 2014 World Christmas party, World had best party at this time, when 2 hours waiting for key at GT, she bought new red heels and she was furious because made red marks on her feet, so she needed to wash marks before I could touch her, but had 4 rooms with her on this great week end, only with her. Everybody knew at World, same than at LR on 2017.
TheNextOne
05-01-20, 11:03
Just google their names. You will find this one among others http://www.fondationscelles.org/en/news/264-condamnation-de-jurgen-rudloff-la-fin-du-paradis.
Just to be clear, fucking as many girls you possibly can and eating all day for 79 euros does raise my eyebrows. I heard of one guy (Belgian) who did 9 girls on one day, for 79 euros.
Somebody mixed these convicted criminals with Artemis. One should not do that. In Artemis there were a few girls (six actually) that had to pay their earnings to Hell's Angels motorclub members. They got one girl to testify against her former pimp and then they tried to blame Artemis. They mixed this link to HA and sexual exploitation with tax evasion. But Artemis staff had already warned about a spooky situation to the police before the girl started talking. The police did not pay notice to the club management message but later started an action against them. They initially succeeded but when the lawyers produced this info the court had no case against Artemis anymore. Next to that Artemis was accused of tax evasion. About 17 million euro was the money that girls have to pay to Artemis as tax and that Artemis will pay to the tax services. Another six million was company tax that went missing.Yeah, I know how to google search, don't worry about that.
The issue with the link you provided me is that it comes from a feminist blog (as do all information about beretin and rudloff, it seems) : I don't know if this is accurate information or not.
Mentally deranged Feminists are crazy in particular when it comes to this kind of stuff, the articles claims Rudloff is in jail for 5 years, I don't buy that information at all.
I was asking on this forum because I assumed certain mongers would be friend with Rudloff and Beretin in here, and would posses information that wasn't available to the public eye. I am looking for information, nothing else.
I'm not even sure Beretin and Rudloff are their real names, but from my research suggests Rudloff and Beretin are the CEO & marketing manager of the paradise chain: Paradise Stuttgart and Paradise in Saarbrucken.
I know Beretin has an email address where he receives pictures of naked girls who want to work at FKK Paradise, and I am looking for that address to contact him, with no success.
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to a streaming version of "The Mega Brothel" (2015) , but if you watch the documentary, you'll see these two prominent figures of the FKK and brothel business in Germany. I am looking to get in touch with them. (if you type in youtube "Germany brothel" you may see them as well).
Here is a picture of a girl that appears in the documentary, so you can find the documentary on google:
https://i.imgur.com/4DTTsbQ.png
Here is a picture of Rudloff's daughter.
https://i.imgur.com/hWjgVrF.png
Thanks in advance to anyone who helps me.
TheNextOne
05-01-20, 11:56
Here is a link to the Mega Brothel Documentary for those interested:
https://www35.zippyshare.com/v/AUDRNoSO/file.html
Well if Stella at Palace did not even DFK you, you don't have too much other choices, but go for Romanians and they dominates most of line up anyways LOL!It was on Saturday 10 May 2014, my first visit at Palace. Around 3 pm, Stella came to me full smiling, friendly. When I knew she is German, I asked her if she kiss in room, as a low level, she answered: I don't sell love, only for sex. So I told her: not for me. She could leave but stayed and said: but I don't know you, your hygiene. I answered: I brush my teeth once a year. She looked at me with big eyes, saying: beurk. She was really not busy on this Saturday afternoon. I moved to World where I discovered a wow Romanian, much prettier than MILF look Stella. Really no regret. I never met any German, except my German escort, but neither legendary Sandra at Sharks, nor Joana at Globe, nor Rachel at GT, could compete with this Romanian woman type, on my second ranking with Kate at Globe. Elegance and charm. About 50 hours with her. Romanians are more for my tastes and my way for sex, even often small pussies, but I can manage and be careful with them.
Because even though I'm far from a Republican, I find her pretty damn hot.
https://coed.com/2020/04/07/kayleigh-mcenany-hot-photos-sexy-pictures-white-house-press-secretary/
Because even though I'm far from a Republican, I find her pretty damn hot.
https://coed.com/2020/04/07/kayleigh-mcenany-hot-photos-sexy-pictures-white-house-press-secretary/You and me both! Not liking her politics makes me want to get that conservative cornhole of hers all the more LOL! Hope Hick too!
BigBuddy69
05-01-20, 22:20
This lady is hotter:https://coed.com/2019/06/19/hope-hicks-hot-photos-sexy-pictures/.
Especially the heels.
Pahllus Maximus
05-01-20, 23:17
I shagged many girls in broad daylight at Oase by the pool, Kino and so on. Nudity is natural. So is having my schwanz in a girl's mouth. The Berlin clubs are even better, full on gang-bangs and orgies. Make FKK's look tame. One git German girl made it a point to be "airtight": every hole full and giving HJ simultaneously. We only live once. Live free, live to thrive!
Mainhatten and Welcum also have open anywhere shagging! And in Bangkok, BJ's at the bar, and shagged a girl openly at a major Nana bar, all the girls on stage giggling :-)
Because even though I'm far from a Republican, I find her pretty damn hot.
https://coed.com/2020/04/07/kayleigh-mcenany-hot-photos-sexy-pictures-white-house-press-secretary/I had Melania Trump look a like in Oceans in 2016. She was from Slovakia, up sold herself, but we settled with 150 euro per hour including dirty GFE experience, she delivered as promised. I think she is gone from Oceans now though, last I have been to oceans was in 2017 and I already did not see her then.
Here is a link to the Mega Brothel Documentary for those interested:
https://www35.zippyshare.com/v/AUDRNoSO/file.htmlTalk about mega brothel, there was a plan to open mega brothel near I think it was potsdam or it could have been spandau, I think potsdam in Berlin, and it went into construction, but then the construction stopped then plan just vanished.
I wondered what exactly happened. Fall out with politician or bureaucrat who originally agreed or just not enough resources to continued the construction.
It was too bad because if Artemis had competition in Berlin, I could expect more stronger line up as it once used to be.
It was on Saturday 10 May 2014, my first visit at Palace. Around 3 pm, Stella came to me full smiling, friendly. When I knew she is German, I asked her if she kiss in room, as a low level, she answered: I don't sell love, only for sex. So I told her: not for me. She could leave but stayed and said: but I don't know you, your hygiene. I answered: I brush my teeth once a year. She looked at me with big eyes, saying: beurk. She was really not busy on this Saturday afternoon. I moved to World where I discovered a wow Romanian, much prettier than MILF look Stella. Really no regret. I never met any German, except my German escort, but neither legendary Sandra at Sharks, nor Joana at Globe, nor Rachel at GT, could compete with this Romanian woman type, on my second ranking with Kate at Globe. Elegance and charm. About 50 hours with her. Romanians are more for my tastes and my way for sex, even often small pussies, but I can manage and be careful with them.Well usually with German table, the one in front of smoking room before renovation, they gives bad service if you only go with standard rate. My rate was 150 euro with them always and I repeated almost only with them and their friends who were all stunners and somehow I never remember their friend being never any Romanians actually.
Stella was beauty when she joined FKK industry for first two years, but toward the end she did gain weight a bit, but beautiful face and all natural till the end beside tattoo on one of the arm if I still remember right. My type is more kylie body who also quit, so I don't mind talking about it, but she also was most beautiful when she began for first two years, but I always loved her fit body, I preferred her tits before surgery, but surgery was done well and perfect size, I just like natural beauty more.
I went with more romanians in nrw and in artemis and I only remember going with two romanian girl in palace, and one of them was one of very few moment I went to room upon girls approaching me, which I usually refuse and I never liked palace romanian, but this girl was a beauty and I only went for 50 euro, but session was very good including DFK, but I did not get rimjob on me for that session LOL! I never got free rimjob in palace actually, I always had to pay, which I don't mind, but I got it for free in other up sell club artemis for free few times, free rimming is barometer to see if the club service is more flexibly better LOL!
I will miss my beloved German table at palace, but I am sure more german beauties to continue to come in future. I never get bored fucking new german beauties.
As for Romanians, I hope they continue to dominate FKK line up, even though they are not my favorite beauty, I do appreciate their direction of beauties, but as I always said, I hope EU will grant better visa condition to Ukraine, so Ukrainian girls can come to german FKK to work more easily, it will be better looking more dirty line up additions.
Polish is mostly gone, czech is gone, mostly russians are gone from FKK etc. New dominated race in line up will be nice and refresh as I do get tired of fucking romanian beauty one after another even though I do appreciate them.
Because even though I'm far from a Republican, I find her pretty damn hot.
https://coed.com/2020/04/07/kayleigh-mcenany-hot-photos-sexy-pictures-white-house-press-secretary/Most of blonde German stunners from Hamburg (they claim) I had were like her or even better and younger before the surgeries and tattoos.
Yeah, I know how to google search, don't worry about that.
The issue with the link you provided me is that it comes from a feminist blog (as do all information about beretin and rudloff, it seems) : I don't know if this is accurate information or not.
Mentally deranged Feminists are crazy in particular when it comes to this kind of stuff, the articles claims Rudloff is in jail for 5 years, I don't buy that information at all.
I was asking on this forum because I assumed certain mongers would be friend with Rudloff and Beretin in here, and would posses information that wasn't available to the public eye. I am looking for information, nothing else.
I'm not even sure Beretin and Rudloff are their real names, but from my research suggests Rudloff and Beretin are the CEO & marketing manager of the paradise chain: Paradise Stuttgart and Paradise in Saarbrucken.
I know Beretin has an email address where he receives pictures of naked girls who want to work at FKK Paradise, and I am looking for that address to contact him, with no success.
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to a streaming version of "The Mega Brothel" (2015) , but if you watch the documentary, you'll see these two prominent figures of the FKK and brothel business in Germany. I am looking to get in touch with them. (if you type in youtube "Germany brothel" you may see them as well)..Why did these guys went to jail for? Relation to bikers or tax evasion or?
Well usually with German table, the one in front of smoking room before renovation, they gives bad service if you only go with standard rate. My rate was 150 euro with them always and I repeated almost only with them and their friends who were all stunners and somehow I never remember their friend being never any Romanians actually.
Stella was beauty when she joined FKK industry for first two years, but toward the end she did gain weight a bit, but beautiful face and all natural till the end beside tattoo on one of the arm if I still remember right. My type is more kylie body who also quit, so I don't mind talking about it, but she also was most beautiful when she began for first two years, but I always loved her fit body, I preferred her tits before surgery, but surgery was done well and perfect size, I just like natural beauty more.
I went with more romanians in nrw and in artemis and I only remember going with two romanian girl in palace, and one of them was one of very few moment I went to room upon girls approaching me, which I usually refuse and I never liked palace romanian, but this girl was a beauty and I only went for 50 euro, but session was very good including DFK, but I did not get rimjob on me for that session LOL! I never got free rimjob in palace actually, I always had to pay, which I don't mind, but I got it for free in other up sell club artemis for free few times, free rimming is barometer to see if the club service is more flexibly better LOL!.Yes, big tattoo on arm for Stella and typical German behavior with total lack of elegance and charm, when my Romanian was elegant, classy look which gave her charm, closer to a normal life woman, when Stella was typical prostitute behavior, even she came in friendly way. For a lover in bed like me, Romanians are usually higher level for me, even Sandra at Sharks was GFE passionate but not wow look for me, Rachel GT was sweet GFE, Tabea at Sharks for my last room was also GFE passionate. Romanians are funny when telling: this is too much love with you, after you I can t work now. So I think: she won t want to repeat. But they return to repeat. Had one sometimes for 3 rooms in the night. When I saw too many girls who had elegance and charm when starting, becoming real prostitutes ready for anything for money. I remember my LR best FKK girl telling me about Daria, when Daria was the only one she worried about, because she felt I could return to Daria, I m not like her, meaning I'm much more class and chic, and Daria who read me, telling me: I know I'm not chic and pretty enough for you, but please, don t judge me. When I saw what claimed chic became, going with who she claimed she would never go, when I was so happy when Daria came to me so proudly, telling: I bought my flat, don t You think I m smart? So happy for her, for sure more smart than buying a car to a pimp with first month earning and needing to come back after 10 days, telling: I'm angry I need to come back so fast because I need money. To give to pimp. I m bored of prostitutes behavior and images, maybe why I don t miss. When Globe turned from chic to quite vulgar, I prefer now more cosy for elegance Amesia. Freubad is also not so bad. Of course I miss to play football at Oase which was my best club on 2019, with 2 real wow and about 7 other beauties, but problem is new beauties don t stay because Oase upselling oldies killed business, most often quite empty.
When clubs will reopen, I don't know when, but I'm sure Romanians who can t make business at poor home and Germans who are not able to do anything else, will return for our fast money. Where could they make so fast money with no big risk? And most of WGs are like animals, they stay in same place, their second home. I was so sure Emily and Ana would return to Velbert, I was just surprised about what I heard about Emily at Gold, really not on Gold level, when she was good for me on our discovery on end of 2016 at Velbert in big room 6. About German tattooed Kyli, not pretty enough for me, German is not enough and don t mean beauty for me. But I enjoyed with some Germans, initiated Lucifer, at Palace. I like Palace, one of the highest level club for me, but bad point is no outdoor. Club for Winter for me. Entry is only 50 before 5 pm, with higher than average FKK level for foods.
Member #4733
05-02-20, 12:37
Yeah, I know how to google search, don't worry about that.There is something funny with these searches. Just put in a hyphen and the results change a lot.
The issue with the link you provided me is that it comes from a feminist blog (as do all information about beretin and rudloff, it seems) : I don't know if this is accurate information or not.Well, the info I found there is not correct indeed. They mixed an all-inclusive-brothel with the FKK's where you pay the girl separately. I followed that without checking. Sorry for that. To make up for that I did some searches, still on the web. I do not know whether you can speak or write German but you can easily use Google translate these days. One tip: add 'Blaulicht' to your searches. For example 'Blaulicht Jurgen Rudloff'. That did not generate many responses from Blaulicht but it sure takes google to the sites that have a link to the police info. Anyway, the first site I found was this one.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/jun/22/trouble-in-paradise-rise-and-fall-of-germany-brothel-king-jurgen-rudloff
This one has some extra info in German https://www.swp.de/panorama/ex-bordell-chef-zu-fuenf-jahren-haft-verurteilt-30149404.html.
This one https://www.schwarzwaelder-bote.de/inhalt.villingen-schwenningen-kommt-boki-erneut-mit-allem-davon.edec7201-20ce-46f2-90d3-a4615bf63e09.html.
Contains this text 'in deren Zuge auch das Imperium des inzwischen verurteilten, inhaftierten und bekannten Bordellbetreibers Jrgen Rudloff'.
This one https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.ex-marketingchef-des-paradise-clubs-steht-wieder-vor-gericht-ein-crashkurs-in-sachen-rotlicht.ece9ae53-7cbe-4299-93b5-31de16ec109e.html?reduced=true.
Contains the text 'Michael Beretin hat seine Haftstrafe inzwischen angetreten'.
This answers most if not all of your initial questions.
I know Beretin has an email address where he receives pictures of naked girls who want to work at FKK Paradise, and I am looking for that address to contact him, with no success.He is in jail right now. So, it might be a bit difficult to reach him without putting you on the police radar. I simply searched for 'Michael Beretin email' and found this site https://www.rocker-blog.to/tag/michael-beretin-wikipedia/. You may try to contact Hell's Angels. A link is supplied! They likely have his contact info.
But I am a bit flabbergasted at your recent question about the email. Starting a business? If you have no history in crime I urge you to take care.
I hope EU will grant better visa condition to Ukraine, so UkrainianJust fly into Kiev. I can recommend the Premiere hotel chain for mid to higher level accommodations that are still female guest friendly. There are bars where almost every lady is working for 100 per hour. Even the guys on the corner outside clubs can take you to nice girls. Tinder is full of business ladies. Perhaps check out the threads on Kiev.
Member #4733
05-02-20, 13:04
I was not at Artemis during this raid, but I was at Artemis during the time when the fire alarm went offYour story sounds very much like a normal fire drill but in an awkward place.
I always thought such business like brothels are closely run with retired high ranking police officer or someone related to politician or high ranking bureaucrat on board of director or on advisory board, but it seemed as though Artemis was targeted due to some political motive. Police just used these girls testimony as tool to get Artemis, which in the end, they failed.Partly true. A German guy told me that the Turkish managers are very much this: managers. Who is the owner? A mystery to me. The initial motive for the raid was a link to the HA. What I did not mention yet is that the 'district' (Bezirksamt) of Berlin that Artemis resides in is 'Charlottenburg-Wilmersdorf'. By that time the Council of this district was controlled by the SPD and they wanted to end prostitution. A bit strange as this party has made prostitution in Germany legal. What political motive they had is not very clear, but politics were certainly part of the motive to raid Artemis. Now it is difficult to provide links with this info as most of it is in Archives of the papers.
I still rate Artemis as best line up of all FKK between year 2009 till 2013ish, it was the best diverse line up with enough stunners, I will always miss the line up of those days, it was easier to find stunner one after another. Well, I still find them, so I am grateful for that.Yes, things have been great. And were improving a lot, lately.
Kamsutra69
05-02-20, 15:29
I know only one FKK in Berlin.
What are the other clubs?
I shagged many girls in broad daylight at Oase by the pool, Kino and so on. Nudity is natural. So is having my schwanz in a girl's mouth. The Berlin clubs are even better, full on gang-bangs and orgies. Make FKK's look tame. One git German girl made it a point to be "airtight": every hole full and giving HJ simultaneously. We only live once. Live free, live to thrive!
Mainhatten and Welcum also have open anywhere shagging! And in Bangkok, BJ's at the bar, and shagged a girl openly at a major Nana bar, all the girls on stage giggling :-)
Kamsutra69
05-02-20, 15:51
Apparently some Indies in d'dorf are ready to meet. Incall & outcall. Visited one sexy Asian. She quoted 200 eur for an HR. 120 for half.
I thought it will get cheaper. Walked out the the place and sanitized my hands. Closest I came to sex in almost 8 weeks.
AlexFlipuc
05-02-20, 19:29
I'm assuming they do, not that its a huge worry as I've been an extra in cuckold porn and fetish porn where I got pegged. I'm 100% straight, but really open minded to activities with women.
You and me both! Not liking her politics makes me want to get that conservative cornhole of hers all the more LOL! Hope Hick too!I think there are a lot more Hope Hicks lookalikes in FKKs than Kayleigh McEnanys. Hard to find the latter. I wouldn't kick Hope Hicks out of bed, but I certainly do have a preference!
Pahllus Maximus
05-02-20, 20:20
Kamsutra69:
Clubs: Insomnia & Swingeroase Zwiespalt in Tempelhof, Anni Porsche in Gneisenaustrae and many others. It is about EUR90 to get in and free after that, ideal for exhibitionists and those that are happy to bone a girl while she attends to other men.
Berlin has many old school brothels that are beautifully decorated, cocktails, good coffee, plenty of time to greet hot women, not at all sleazy. At least one was happy for me to lounge around, and read and even play chess with the girls whilst recovering. I liken them to old Vienna coffee shops where they were social centers. Far more intimate, quiet, smoke free and passionate IMHO. One place had an open fireplace to shag next to. Many of the girls are educated and clever, and we all know the brain can be just as erotic as the lower bits as a girl talks, is a person, giggles and is impossibly sexy to boot, especially knowing it is a sure thing ! Quite a few times when they were not busy, two girls would be for the price of one, or just a bit more.
Many of the brothel girls are German -and hate the Romanians in FKKs and/or paying up front and having sunk costs, and then waiting around to recoup the entry fee. They complain that the FKK's are like Home Depot box stores (in Germany Hornsbach, Obi, Praktiker and Hellweg), but have an entry charge.
Check out berlinintim dot de for full list and pretty good set of contacts for other entertainment besides FKK.
Just fly into Kiev. I can recommend the Premiere hotel chain for mid to higher level accommodations that are still female guest friendly. There are bars where almost every lady is working for 100 per hour. Even the guys on the corner outside clubs can take you to nice girls. Tinder is full of business ladies. Perhaps check out the threads on Kiev.The girls on Kiev escort sites are pretty fucking hot.
How was the overall experience in Kiev? Did you feel safe? What are the trade offs between flying into Kiev / Moscow and flying to DE for FKKs as a sex tourist?
I think there are a lot more Hope Hicks lookalikes in FKKs than Kayleigh McEnanys. Hard to find the latter. I wouldn't kick Hope Hicks out of bed, but I certainly do have a preference!Did you know that Kayleigh had a preventive-measure double mastectomy? I wonder what her chest looks like physically (other than simply being flat)? I've never been a huge tit kind of guy, so I don't mind smaller boobs. But if her chest is scarred from that procedure, then I'm sure that when the clothes came off, the attraction would fade LOL!
Sebastiane
05-02-20, 21:39
Kamsutra69:
Clubs: Insomnia & Swingeroase Zwiespalt in Tempelhof, Anni Porsche in Gneisenaustrae and many others. It is about EUR90 to get in and free after that, ideal for exhibitionists and those that are happy to bone a girl while she attends to other men.
Berlin has many old school brothels that are beautifully decorated, cocktails, good coffee, plenty of time to greet hot women, not at all sleazy. At least one was happy for me to lounge around, and read and even play chess with the girls whilst recovering. I liken them to old Vienna coffee shops where they were social centers. Far more intimate, quiet, smoke free and passionate IMHO. One place had an open fireplace to shag next to. Many of the girls are educated and clever, and we all know the brain can be just as erotic as the lower bits as a girl talks, is a person, giggles and is impossibly sexy to boot, especially knowing it is a sure thing ! Quite a few times when they were not busy, two girls would be for the price of one, or just a bit more.
Many of the brothel girls are German -and hate the Romanians in FKKs and/or paying up front and having sunk costs, and then waiting around to recoup the entry fee. They complain that the FKK's are like Home Depot box stores (in Germany Hornsbach, Obi, Praktiker and Hellweg), but have an entry charge.
Check out berlinintim dot de for full list and pretty good set of contacts for other entertainment besides FKK.Hey,
That's interesting. I was aware that there were these type of clubs in Berlin (I've heard of Insomnia but never been) and of the old school brothels but don't know specific names. Would be great if you could give some names and details of these old school brothels.
That would be extra options in addition to Artemis!
Did you know that Kayleigh had a preventive-measure double mastectomy? I wonder what her chest looks like physically (other than simply being flat)? I've never been a huge tit kind of guy, so I don't mind smaller boobs. But if her chest is scarred from that procedure, then I'm sure that when the clothes came off, the attraction would fade LOL!Ha, you're going to force me to defend a Republican! I'm not a big boob kind of guy either but think I'll still be all over that, scars or not. There's doggy style too! And odds are, it wouldn't be an issue, since girls have things put in their chests surgically with minimal cosmetic damage, having them taken out probably wouldn't be an issue either.
Polyamorist
05-03-20, 00:02
Did you know that Kayleigh had a preventive-measure double mastectomy?She was just doing her bit to flatten the curve.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWsimW9U0AMUcXI.png
Did you know that Kayleigh had a preventive-measure double mastectomy? I wonder what her chest looks like physically (other than simply being flat)? I've never been a huge tit kind of guy, so I don't mind smaller boobs. But if her chest is scarred from that procedure, then I'm sure that when the clothes came off, the attraction would fade LOL!Tbh, never found Kayleigh to be hot and shag worthy. If she gives away a free one and if I am backed up, yeah may be. But that's about it. Knowing now that she lost her tits, I will have to pass though.
The one I did like was Erin Burnett who is now on CNN but years ago when she was young and on CNBC, was hot in my eyes. Same with Kelly Evans on CNBC. About 5 years ago she was with Wall St Journal and was hot in those days. Now both are getting older and losing it.
Just fly into Kiev. I can recommend the Premiere hotel chain for mid to higher level accommodations that are still female guest friendly. There are bars where almost every lady is working for 100 per hour. Even the guys on the corner outside clubs can take you to nice girls. Tinder is full of business ladies. Perhaps check out the threads on Kiev.LOL You cracked me up, I have been to Kiev and I did stay at premier palace LOL. I love the swimming pool with glass ceiling and also I went to monger in this famous boat, but I did not like quality of girls and me and my friend ended up at cabaret bar in premier palace on top floor and found a very good prostitute there which I fucked in room later LOL. I also had contact in Kiev and he organized my banya session, which is sauna, when Russian guy say let go to banya most of time, it is to monger LOL!
Girls at Banya my friend organized was stunners of stunners, but I must say I prefer german FKK, I somehow like it best at German FKK. I like solo travelling for mongering and in eastern europe, I need help of my friends to organize girls or go to places and I must say girls are only stunner of stunner like 9 above when my friends organize it for me and I cannot ask every day, so I prefer solo mongering trip, I feel so free when I am on German FKK trip or Zurich one.
Yes, big tattoo on arm for Stella and typical German behavior with total lack of elegance and charm, when my Romanian was elegant, classy look which gave her charm, closer to a normal life woman, when Stella was typical prostitute behavior, even she came in friendly way. For a lover in bed like me, Romanians are usually higher level for me, even Sandra at Sharks was GFE passionate but not wow look for me, Rachel GT was sweet GFE, Tabea at Sharks for my last room was also GFE passionate. Romanians are funny when telling: this is too much love with you, after you I can t work now. So I think: she won t want to repeat. But they return to repeat. Had one sometimes for 3 rooms in the night. When I saw too many girls who had elegance and charm when starting, becoming real prostitutes ready for anything for money. I remember my LR best FKK girl telling me about Daria, when Daria was the only one she worried about, because she felt I could return to Daria, I m not like her, meaning I'm much more class and chic, and Daria who read me, telling me: I know I'm not chic and pretty enough for you, but please, don t judge me. When I saw what claimed chic became, going with who she claimed she would never go, when I was so happy when Daria came to me so proudly, telling: I bought my flat, don t You think I m smart? So happy for her, for sure more smart than buying a car to a pimp with first month earning and needing to come back after 10 days, telling: I'm angry I need to come back so fast because I need money. To give to pimp. I m bored of prostitutes behavior and images, maybe why I don t miss. When Globe turned from chic to quite vulgar, I prefer now more cosy for elegance Amesia. Freubad is also not so bad. Of course I miss to play football at Oase which was my best club on 2019, with 2 real wow and about 7 other beauties, but problem is new beauties don t stay because Oase upselling oldies killed business, most often quite empty.German table could be nice, and best service, but with them, you must break the ice, they have to like you as a client, and they always try to upsell, they first say 200 euro per hour and I knew lulu from Artemis and I only been with her once before her too big tits job, but she kind of did the relation management for me and she took down the price to 150 euro per hour, which for me is reasonable price as long as I get GFE service all included for one hour for 150 euro.
If you just go to german table straight, they just going to try to rip you off or give bad service. I always pay bit more to germans in german FKK, but they deliver most dirty sex for me with for me fair price of 150 euro per hour, not in globe zurich, I just pay 140 there, no upsell as you know.
Your story sounds very much like a normal fire drill but in an awkward place.
Partly true. A German guy told me that the Turkish managers are very much this: managers. Who is the owner? A mystery to me. The initial motive for the raid was a link to the HA. What I did not mention yet is that the 'district' (Bezirksamt) of Berlin that Artemis resides in is 'Charlottenburg-Wilmersdorf'. By that time the Council of this district was controlled by the SPD and they wanted to end prostitution. A bit strange as this party has made prostitution in Germany legal. What political motive they had is not very clear, but politics were certainly part of the motive to raid Artemis. Now it is difficult to provide links with this info as most of it is in Archives of the papers.
Yes, things have been great. And were improving a lot, lately.Yeah it was down then when I went back last summer, it is back up again and I was happy. I loved my sessions with all the girls especially German leyla, but I think she is half German half something. But all natural and beauty.
Turkish owner is Turkish owners, it is two brothers, kenna is always at the club, white Bentley continental coupe parked in front is his car. Nice guy. Tough, but very polite.
I don't know what's up with Artemis and feud with police and authority, but we must not forget, it is Berlin, the capital of Germany. So maybe it got to do with it too.
She was just doing her bit to flatten the curve.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWsimW9U0AMUcXI.pngLOL, good one.
Tbh, never found Kayleigh to be hot and shag worthy. If she gives away a free one and if I am backed up, yeah may be. But that's about it. Knowing now that she lost her tits, I will have to pass though.
The one I did like was Erin Burnett who is now on CNN but years ago when she was young and on CNBC, was hot in my eyes. Same with Kelly Evans on CNBC. About 5 years ago she was with Wall St Journal and was hot in those days. Now both are getting older and losing it.Different strokes for different folks. Hope Hicks, Burnett, Evans. Why'all mentioning brunettes. Bring on the skinny blondes for me!
German table could be nice, and best service, but with them, you must break the ice, they have to like you as a client, and they always try to upsell, they first say 200 euro per hour and I knew lulu from Artemis and I only been with her once before her too big tits job, but she kind of did the relation management for me and she took down the price to 150 euro per hour, which for me is reasonable price as long as I get GFE service all included for one hour for 150 euro.
If you just go to german table straight, they just going to try to rip you off or give bad service. I always pay bit more to germans in german FKK, but they deliver most dirty sex for me with for me fair price of 150 euro per hour, not in globe zurich, I just pay 140 there, no upsell as you know.140 CHF or 130€ is for only 30 mn at Globe. As a cheap French, but I m not a rabbit, so, when I enjoy, 1 hour is even short for me. Had many 1 h30 for 390, 2 hours for 520, or even 2h30 but desk mistook to 550 €, instead of 650 €, very expensive at Globe, such rate only worth if wow beauty and for love in bed, for me. In some other Swiss clubs, rates are more flexible and less expensive for now same level and even most interesting for behavior girls.
About Stella Palace, when she told: I don t sell love, she didn't interest me anymore, same for Reina at LR, when I am attracted by love games. She could leave but she stayed because she had no business. What I prefer is not to ask anything to the girl, just to speak about her, to look how she looks at me and what a pleasure to discover surprise in bed, when grocery market just kill my desire. Also what great enjoyment to make improving girls following my games. I could have tried Stella, but she was not interesting for me, and I never returned to try again, when I went weekly for 1 year for my Romanian who was so far higher level for me.
Who asked me, on another thread, to compare FKKs and Japanese soaplands.
The short answer: Can't be compared. I love them both, like tennis and golf, but they are different.
Since everyone here knows FKKs, I will just say how different soaplands are.
You choose your girl on a line up, or on a photo, on the premises. Like in a traditional old fashion brothel.
You choose the duration of your session, usually 60/70/90, but can be 120 min.
The session always goes like this: respectful greetings, she will gently disrob you, then strip off herself,; Depending on the girl some will deep kiss or otherwise just lip kiss. A light BBBJ can be given at the beginning. You then sit on the stool and she washes you all over, everywhere, while you can touch her. Then in the bathtub for another wash, then on the slippery mattress for nuru massage. Then on a bed, for a full BBBJ, DATY, FS, as often as you can cum and in any position until the alarm rings, she dresses you up, light kiss and that's it. For Anal, fingering, ask beforehand for a girl who does it.
Access: In Yoshiwara, many more shops accept gaijins. Just walk in the area, and wait to be called. There is only one, Paradise, which is dedicated to foreigners. To my opinion, you lose the real thing, I always go to Japanese one. Language is not a problem, they will only show you girls who are comfortable with foreigners, and you can chat with her during the session with google translate. Girls who accept gaijins in Japanese soaplands are more curious, and that make the session more fun.
Price: Shorter sessions can start around 25 K Yens. That is for "ordinary" soaplands, with "ordinary, next door kind of girls. If you want super extra models type, there are plenty, but be preapred to shed 100 K or more.
As far as I know those soapalnds are the only places on earth where you can have a nice, relaxed full session with a true, real Japanese girl. With all the traditional serie that you only get in Japan. Most soaplands will have their driver drop you at the near subway station free of Charge after the session. That is, of course, if you behaved.
I miss soaplands in the West, and I miss FkKs while in Japan, since, after a session in a soapland, I would love to hang on for a few hours in a FKK-like environment, watching naked girls passing by, etc.
Japanese girls vs Romanians? In term of service, and in general terms, Japanese are way ahead. You may have, rarely, "ordinary service" in a soapland, but far less often than in an FKK. Although, of course, exceptions make the rule true. Standard service in Japanese soapland, is hardly ever reached in an FKK. Maybe a few of my old experiences in Bernd's were not that far.
The above is based on personal experience in both Japan and Germany going back more than 20 years, and probably more than 500 girls altogether.
To each his own, and there is no right or wrong.
Forgot to answer about personalities:
I don't know much Romanians outrside FKKs. Yes, most of them are there to make money, I don't blame them, I still have fond memories of a few of them, but that's it.
Japanese girls working in Sopalands are not there to extract any money form you: They get fixed pay, and no haggling during session ever. Actually asking for extras, say anal, and insisting in case she says no, by proposing more money might trigger a pretty vigorous expulsion form the place by pretty unpleasant looking yakusa men.
Outside this area of business, Japanese girls are sweet, "kawai" but can become terribly jealous, on the verge of psychopath.
I never engaged with any of them romantically for those reasons, But in a soapland, you have a nice, kawai, japanese girlfriend for an hour or more, who genuinely wants to please you.
I would just add that some 10 years ago, I decided to learn basic Japanese, and that made my mongering in Japan much better, not only because I could access a few more joints, but also in my relationship with the providers during the session. And also increase dramatically my confidence in engaging with all the people in adult business.
Last, I guess your question about becoming a sauna boy was tongue in cheek.
Of course, no way, "Japanese only" as every gaijins have experienced in Japan.
To conclude, there are currently 2 countries that I would love to be living in just now, and they are. Japan and Germany. Japan first choice. Stuck in Western Europe as of now.
.............The one I did like was Erin Burnett who is now on CNN but years ago when she was young and on CNBC, was hot in my eyes. Same with Kelly Evans on CNBC. About 5 years ago she was with Wall St Journal and was hot in those days. Now both are getting older and losing it.I'm partial to Melanie Collins, CBS sportscaster.
140 CHF or 130 is for only 30 mn at Globe. As a cheap French, but I m not a rabbit, so, when I enjoy, 1 hour is even short for me. Had many 1 h30 for 390, 2 hours for 520, or even 2h30 but desk mistook to 550 , instead of 650 , very expensive at Globe, such rate only worth if wow beauty and for love in bed, for me. In some other Swiss clubs, rates are more flexible and less expensive for now same level and even most interesting for behavior girls.
About Stella Palace, when she told: I don t sell love, she didn't interest me anymore, same for Reina at LR, when I am attracted by love games. She could leave but she stayed because she had no business. What I prefer is not to ask anything to the girl, just to speak about her, to look how she looks at me and what a pleasure to discover surprise in bed, when grocery market just kill my desire. Also what great enjoyment to make improving girls following my games. I could have tried Stella, but she was not interesting for me, and I never returned to try again, when I went weekly for 1 year for my Romanian who was so far higher level for me.Well siri, as for your sell love thing in FKK, no girls sell love, they sell sex and FKK is brothel where men go to buy sex, not love.
There are some mongers who are so infatuated that they begin to think FKK is real thing, well it is not, it is just very good sex and you know there are some sad incident like monger murdering FKK girl because some monger begin to think money based sexual relation with prostitutes in FKK is real thing.
So I hope you do realize these thing we do in FKK you are more mental, I am more sexual session are just sex and not love. I hope so for your own sake.
Polyamorist
05-04-20, 02:53
I wonder what her chest looks like physically (other than simply being flat)? I've never been a huge tit kind of guy, so I don't mind smaller boobs. But if her chest is scarred from that procedure, then I'm sure that when the clothes came off, the attraction would fade LOL!When a girl goes to the boob doctor, typically she will get a set of choices that look something like this:
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/4c/b5/3a/4cb53a3254ac2bda3ee87c6180c1a759.jpg
I keep telling the girls they should only select option (c) or (f), but sometimes they forget and the results are disastrous.
Well siri, as for your sell love thing in FKK, no girls sell love, they sell sex and FKK is brothel where men go to buy sex, not love.
There are some mongers who are so infatuated that they begin to think FKK is real thing, well it is not, it is just very good sex and you know there are some sad incident like monger murdering FKK girl because some monger begin to think money based sexual relation with prostitutes in FKK is real thing.
So I hope you do realize these thing we do in FKK you are more mental, I am more sexual session are just sex and not love. I hope so for your own sake.I give love, sex is not enough for me, but low level for me. I pay for love in bed, but not outside clubs.
Kamsutra69
05-04-20, 15:49
Great info!
I wish I'd known this last Feb while I was in Berlin. But I will use it on my next trip.
Happy mongering!
Kamsutra69:
Clubs: Insomnia & Swingeroase Zwiespalt in Tempelhof, Anni Porsche in Gneisenaustrae and many others. It is about EUR90 to get in and free after that, ideal for exhibitionists and those that are happy to bone a girl while she attends to other men.
Berlin has many old school brothels that are beautifully decorated, cocktails, good coffee, plenty of time to greet hot women, not at all sleazy. At least one was happy for me to lounge around, and read and even play chess with the girls whilst recovering. I liken them to old Vienna coffee shops where they were social centers. Far more intimate, quiet, smoke free and passionate IMHO. One place had an open fireplace to shag next to. Many of the girls are educated and clever, and we all know the brain can be just as erotic as the lower bits as a girl talks, is a person, giggles and is impossibly sexy to boot, especially knowing it is a sure thing ! Quite a few times when they were not busy, two girls would be for the price of one, or just a bit more.
Many of the brothel girls are German -and hate the Romanians in FKKs and/or paying up front and having sunk costs, and then waiting around to recoup the entry fee. They complain that the FKK's are like Home Depot box stores (in Germany Hornsbach, Obi, Praktiker and Hellweg), but have an entry charge..
Who asked me, on another thread, to compare FKKs and Japanese soaplands.
The short answer: Can't be compared. I love them both, like tennis and golf, but they are different.
Since everyone here knows FKKs, I will just say how different soaplands are.
You choose your girl on a line up, or on a photo, on the premises. Like in a traditional old fashion brothel.
You choose the duration of your session, usually 60/70/90, but can be 120 min.
The session always goes like this: respectful greetings, she will gently disrob you, then strip off herself,; Depending on the girl some will deep kiss or otherwise just lip kiss. A light BBBJ can be given at the beginning. You then sit on the stool and she washes you all over, everywhere, while you can touch her. Then in the bathtub for another wash, then on the slippery mattress for nuru massage. Then on a bed, for a full BBBJ, DATY, FS, as often as you can cum and in any position until the alarm rings, she dresses you up, light kiss and that's it. For Anal, fingering, ask beforehand for a girl who does it.
Access: In Yoshiwara, many more shops accept gaijins. Just walk in the area, and wait to be called. There is only one, Paradise, which is dedicated to foreigners. To my opinion, you lose the real thing, I always go to Japanese one. Language is not a problem, they will only show you girls who are comfortable with foreigners, and you can chat with her during the session with google translate. Girls who accept gaijins in Japanese soaplands are more curious, and that make the session more fun..Nice report! No one has written much on this part of the world. Thank you!
According to an insider who knows some of the FKK owners, these FKK owners are discussing a proposal to the government.
He wrote on a German forum:
"Die diskutieren gerade, wie man beim Sex den Mindestabstand einhLT, und welche Masken am vorteilhaftesten sind. In den Gastrumen werden Tische und Sitzgelegenheiten auseinander gerCKT, berall Desinfektionsmittel bereit gestellt, und am Eingang wird Fieber gemessen. Auf der Stirn, nicht hinten drin und kein Stangenfieber.
Bereiche, mit denen man die tdliche 800 qm Grenze berschreiten wrde, werden abgesperrt. Kleinsaunen und Whirls nur fare eine Person zugelassen, grssere Saunen je nach Breite mit Abstand von 2 m zum Sitznachbar eingerichtet.
Wie sich das Virus in Dampfbdern verhLT wird gerade getestet".
Google translation:
They are currently discussing how to keep the minimum distance during sex and which masks are the most advantageous. In the dining rooms, tables and seating are moved apart, disinfectants are provided everywhere, and fever is measured at the entrance. On the forehead, not in the back and no pole fever.
Areas with which one would cross the deadly 800 sqm border will be cordoned off. Small saunas and whirls are only permitted for one person, larger saunas, depending on the width, are set up at a distance of 2 m from the neighboring person.
How the virus behaves in steam baths is currently being tested.
BigBuddy69
05-04-20, 21:20
They are currently discussing how to keep the minimum distance during sexI think it may be a little complicated.
Sebastiane
05-04-20, 21:35
Any news in the German press about when brothels, FKKS and (non-sex related) theatres and cinemas and techno clubs can re-open?
At Sharks, they took temperature, not at Oase. When they found 35.8, they thought thermometer didn't work, I told them: don't worry, it works, but I died many years ago, why I m cold.
Brothels owners want to negotiate with administration about managing virus between clients and prostitutes, when most infected have no high temperature and don't even know they are infected, and keeping minimum distance for sex? Not easy when short length for most. Really funny.
According to an insider who knows some of the FKK owners, these FKK owners are discussing a proposal to the government.
He wrote on a German forum:
"Die diskutieren gerade, wie man beim Sex den Mindestabstand einhLT, und welche Masken am vorteilhaftesten sind. In den Gastrumen werden Tische und Sitzgelegenheiten auseinander gerCKT, berall Desinfektionsmittel bereit gestellt, und am Eingang wird Fieber gemessen. Auf der Stirn, nicht hinten drin und kein Stangenfieber.
Bereiche, mit denen man die tdliche 800 qm Grenze berschreiten wrde, werden abgesperrt. Kleinsaunen und Whirls nur fare eine Person zugelassen, grssere Saunen je nach Breite mit Abstand von 2 m zum Sitznachbar eingerichtet.
Wie sich das Virus in Dampfbdern verhLT wird gerade getestet".
Google translation:
They are currently discussing how to keep the minimum distance during sex and which masks are the most advantageous. In the dining rooms, tables and seating are moved apart, disinfectants are provided everywhere, and fever is measured at the entrance. On the forehead, not in the back and no pole fever.
Areas with which one would cross the deadly 800 sqm border will be cordoned off. Small saunas and whirls are only permitted for one person, larger saunas, depending on the width, are set up at a distance of 2 m from the neighboring person.
How the virus behaves in steam baths is currently being tested.It makes absolutely no sense wearing masks and social distancing in FKKs and brothels unless in the rooms the men must stay six feet away from the women and wank.
Polyamorist
05-05-20, 01:24
Japanese girls working in Sopalands are not there to extract any money form you: They get fixed pay, and no haggling during session ever.
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To conclude, there are currently 2 countries that I would love to be living in just now, and they are. Japan and Germany. Japan first choice. Stuck in Western Europe as of now.Salaam Dreams, thanks for your comprehensive answers to my questions, even my bullshit ones. For me I guess that narrows it down to G̶e̶r̶m̶a̶n̶y̶,̶ ̶S̶w̶i̶t̶z̶e̶r̶l̶a̶n̶d̶, Japan, Brazil, and maybe St. Petersburg. But I refuse to live in any country without willing women, that is like being in jail.
Polyamorist
05-05-20, 02:18
It makes absolutely no sense wearing masks and social distancing in FKKs and brothels unless in the rooms the men must stay six feet away from the women and wank.Only wank? This year could be the great cumback of the Glory Hole. With all participants fully saunatized.
I give love, sex is not enough for me, but low level for me. I pay for love in bed, but not outside clubs.You give love to FKK girls and FKK girls aka prostitutes give you low level sex session LOL! This is easy to get. So lucky you.
I like hard dirty deep best I don't believe she just did this to me kind of session LOL! This is hard to get, but I managed as I am the professional prostitute hunter LOL!
It makes absolutely no sense wearing masks and social distancing in FKKs and brothels unless in the rooms the men must stay six feet away from the women and wank.This masked sex rumor refuses to die. I don't understand this either. To all the monger posters on this site, it is so patently absurd. However, the other gentleman (forgot his name) did clarify that it is a ruse and smokescreen to get permission to restart the clubs. If so, I wish the club owners god speed. I am however unsure if the regulators will fall for it. I mean, are the regulators so dumb that they think a whole bunch of fuckers and fucked girls will go inside their rooms and scrupulously keep the mask on and somehow that is enough to stop the virus? I am very skeptical. Germany has managed the virus much better than almost all Western nations and they didn't get there by being stupid. Why are the club owners who are obviously smart enough to have managed such a tough business for so long suddenly are pitching such ridiculous proposals to the regulators? None of this makes any sense.
I will stay with my prediction that the chances of fuck clubs reopening is less than 5% before September and less than 25% prior to December.
Lucky Nuts
05-05-20, 04:35
The girls on Kiev escort sites are pretty fucking hot.
How was the overall experience in Kiev? Did you feel safe? What are the trade offs between flying into Kiev / Moscow and flying to DE for FKKs as a sex tourist?The photos on those sites are models. Not the actual working girls. The sites will send a carload of girls to you and you can pick one if you like one. Or just pay the taxi fare if you don't.
Another common option in Kiev is visiting secret apartment brothels. Price is about $100 for an hour with either option. Girls range from 6's to 8's in looks.
The big difference is that the game is not legal in Ukraine and requires a good amount of effort to score well.
Kiev feels very safe.
The photos on those sites are models. Not the actual working girls. The sites will send a carload of girls to you and you can pick one if you like one. Or just pay the taxi fare if you don't.
Another common option in Kiev is visiting secret apartment brothels. Price is about $100 for an hour with either option. Girls range from 6's to 8's in looks.
The big difference is that the game is not legal in Ukraine and requires a good amount of effort to score well.
Kiev feels very safe.I also been to this big boat in Kiev where there is a bar and all girls inside are prostitute. It was not stunners as German FKK though, but there were some nice girls like I would rate them 7 out of 10 in beauty. That and cabaret in premier palace up stair was only set up I went in Kiev without friend setting up.
Private Banya (sauna) set up was stunners of stunners girls, and I always felt that in eastern Europe, which I went to many, are best for mongering with some kind of support best by local friends or you monger there and develop contact there who can introduce you to stunner level beautiful girls.
I always rated German FKK is best in looks if you are alone with no connection style mongering. You wait and dig then stunner level beauties are still able to find in German FKK without any contacts, just bit of info which clubs to go for your taste.
I think it may be a little complicated.
It makes absolutely no sense wearing masks and social distancing in FKKs and brothels unless in the rooms the men must stay six feet away from the women and wank.Your posts show that you guys are honest, decent and perhaps a little naive men. I am pretty sure that you guys still remember that BBBJ is illegal in Germany, and how many mongers in Germany followed that rule of law?
I think that those FKK owners are clever because they want to reopen the business as soon as possible and would submit a workable proposal which has reasonable chance to be adopted by the Government.
By the way, massage parlors are allowed to be reopenned in Hessen since yesterday (May 4). I don't know whether this means anything with regards to FKK clubs.
BigBuddy69
05-05-20, 09:59
Your posts show that you guys are honest, decent and perhaps a little naive men. I am pretty sure that you guys still remember that BBBJ is illegal in Germany, and how many mongers in Germany followed that rule of law?
I think that those FKK owners are clever because they want to reopen the business as soon as possible and would submit a workable proposal which has reasonable chance to be adopted by the Government.
By the way, massage parlors are allowed to be reopenned in Hessen since yesterday (May 4). I don't know whether this means anything with regards to FKK clubs.Do you really think that the German government is so stupid that he's going to believe some bullshit made up by FKK owners who want to save their business? We're talking about a life threatening disease here, not about a tiny chance of getting herpes by BJ. If a girl is infected and if she has 10 customers in the day, that means 10 more sick people, who will in turn infect their family and so on. The officials won't believe that from now on, everyone will be totally cautious and customers will only masturbate in front of the girl, separated by plexiglass.
I'd really like to believe you but honestly it sounds like science fiction to me.
About the massage parlors, are you talking about only therapeutic massage or also erotic massages?
Mongers will get BBBJ in Germany no matter what, I hereby swear that I will be getting my dick sucked, licked, chew, deep throat and spat at after corona viruses.
I will put my penis into most beautiful FKK girls mouth and I will piston that right into her throat and cum in throat LOL!
Salaam Dreams, thanks for your comprehensive answers to my questions, even my bullshit ones. For me I guess that narrows it down to G̶e̶r̶m̶a̶n̶y̶,̶ ̶S̶w̶i̶t̶z̶e̶r̶l̶a̶n̶d̶, Japan, Brazil, and maybe St. Petersburg. But I refuse to live in any country without willing women, that is like being in jail.I love the place but always went accompanied, for the operas, museums etc. How could I get some action if I find a way to get out for max, say 2 hours? No escorts, just a place, like massage with happy ending or more.
Another common option in Kiev is visiting secret . Price is about $100 for an hour with either option. Girls range from 6's to 8's in looks.
The big difference is that the game is not legal in Ukraine and requires a good amount of effort to score well.
Kiev feels very safe.Flying in to Kiev is not quite as easy as flying in to Germany or the Netherlands. I'm not sure about other public transportation but there are taxi drivers fighting to get you into their car at the airport. I paid €25 from the airport to the city via a pre-arranged taxi, arranged by the hotel. Taxi drivers there are famous for taking people site seeing. UKLON is their version of Uber and can be used to book trips with known pickup, drop off and price before getting in the cab. Car safety is sometimes questionable.
There are many bars known for working ladies. You can go to one, chat, dance, play your game. If you like her ask her to the room. It may be free or may be 100 per hour.
I walked the city, booking 15 to 20 km per day on foot. It is an amazing architectural and historical city. There are some danger points. Some city parks are gathering points for drug users after dark. Public transportation like the subway is amazing, with the deepest subway in the world, some stations that have beautiful mosaics, and 3 or 4 pickpockets on every car. If you have been drinking and get in the subway you will get robbed. If you feel it happen, don't fight back. It's more likely you will be sat in a room for 6 hours with the police interrogating you rather than those who robbed you. Even with the revolution of dignity to rid the city of corruption, my opinion, a majority of police are still taking bribes. Criminals bribe them not to be arrested and innocent people pay bribes to get out of interrogation.
I met some amazing sex providers. Never leave them alone in your room. A naked guy was chasing two women down the hall in the hotel, they had his wallet, watch and bottles from the mini bar.
Would I go again, absolutely, even after being in that room with 3 police officers for 6 hours.
Your posts show that you guys are honest, decent and perhaps a little naive men. I am pretty sure that you guys still remember that BBBJ is illegal in Germany, and how many mongers in Germany followed that rule of law?
I think that those FKK owners are clever because they want to reopen the business as soon as possible and would submit a workable proposal which has reasonable chance to be adopted by the Government.
By the way, massage parlors are allowed to be reopenned in Hessen since yesterday (May 4). I don't know whether this means anything with regards to FKK clubs.A massage parlor with social distancing ceases to be a massage parlor. An FKK with masks and social distancing ceases to be an FKK.
A massage parlor with social distancing ceases to be a massage parlor. An FKK with masks and social distancing ceases to be an FKK.If you meant outside the rooms, you are entitled to your opinion although in my opinion it is less important than in the rooms and much better than without FKK clubs at all. I don't think you meant in the rooms because you know how it went with condoms since July 2017 when you were supposed to wear condoms by law.
If you meant outside the rooms, you are entitled to your opinion although in my opinion it is less important than in the rooms and much better than without FKK clubs at all. I don't think you meant in the rooms because you know how it went with condoms since July 2017 when you were supposed to wear condoms by law.Maybe the high minister of fucking is thinking about sex in FKK like this.
-check for people temperature cough etc at the entrance.
-inside the FKK social distance and ffp1 mask and high ventilation.
-inside the room ffp3 mask only doggy and manipulation and mandatory super cleaning before and after.
So forget 50/30 and go to 150/60 at minimum.
After a couple chick & pervert cleaning and ventilation of the room.
Forget also cheap airline tickets.
The price will triple minimum and only rich will afford to travel by plane.
But good news only for 2/3 years.
An if the FKK experiment go wrong, the minister can classifies all and sell to big Pharma or military.
Think about it!
Pahllus Maximus
05-05-20, 15:59
I'm in USA and it is normally a sex prison unless you pay a lot for entitled princess types or skanks at the entry level. Pricing is opaque and there are regular sting operations by cops to stop consenting adults doing what biology put us on earth for in the first place.
As to COVID and our shared frustrations, spare a thought for sane people in actual prison denied human touch and how the humanity and empathy in them would in many cases wither away and die. Of course it depends on the conflicting goals of protecting the public from psychopaths, punishment and rehabilitation, but is seems to me that particular institution can and probably does destroy many. I recently considered private prisons as a portfolio addition, but I can't ethically do it, including that their business model is heavily dependent on bribing politicians and pocketing the cash for much needed medical treatment. Some of them have poor treasury management, paying 400 or more BPP over the odds for capital. The latest COVID deprivation cemented my ideas: it is not right to deprive others of human touch and sex and be a good person.
At least our sex isolation is temporary, albeit frustrating on many levels. I expect the FKKs and clubs will do a roaring trade after this, as our ilk ceases to take the hobby for granted and will want to not waste a moment enjoying it before the next virii, economic collapse or whatever that yanks away our source of joy. I should add that the joy is primal, natural, consensual and healthy for mind and body, the ultimate free market.
Sebastiane
05-05-20, 18:56
Any kind of restriction inside an FKK doesn't make any sense and is not workable. What could work is if there is a instant test that can check whether you have Covid19 or not, then everyone -- workers, staff and clients -- who enter could take the test in reception and only those passing be allowed through.
Although, more likely once the active cases goes down to zero, I'm sure clubs will open. They could use some things like no more than 50 in a club at a time. That's more realistic than masks and stuff.
Do you really think that the German government is so stupid that he's going to believe some bullshit made up by FKK owners who want to save their business? We're talking about a life threatening disease here, not about a tiny chance of getting herpes by BJ. If a girl is infected and if she has 10 customers in the day, that means 10 more sick people, who will in turn infect their family and so on. The officials won't believe that from now on, everyone will be totally cautious and customers will only masturbate in front of the girl, separated by plexiglass.
I'd really like to believe you but honestly it sounds like science fiction to me.
About the massage parlors, are you talking about only therapeutic massage or also erotic massages?You sounded like completely giving up. I wonder why you were still asking if anyone knew when FKK would reopen just several days ago. I hope you didn't expect FKK clubs reopen just like before without mask and social distancing, then that would be really like science fiction to me. Anyway it doesn't matter what you or I think would happen, so let's not talk about it anymore. Let's see what happens next.
My understanding is that it is therapeutic massage only.
I love the place but always went accompanied, for the operas, museums etc. How could I get some action if I find a way to get out for max, say 2 hours? No escorts, just a place, like massage with happy ending or more.Peter is the most beautiful city for me, even more than my Paris and real wow for women beauty, I will always remember my night with Olga for 400 USD, I managed badly on next day, but she helped me to be able to see again the sun. Not so easy to visit Russia, but I dream of a trip between Peter, Siberia to Vladivostok. Speaking Russian help a lot with Russians, and for sweet intimacy with Russian beauties.
Other info from sanitat und fik fik ministerium.
Entrance fee set at 150 euro.
Chick&pervert must present to one another like John smith from New York and Bianca dimitrou from Bucharest.
That for disease tracking in case of contagion.
Inside the FKK the cleaning must be made by ministerium personnel.
For gender policy can be masculine or feminine or trasgender.
Customer expectations not in consideration.
The cleaning will be especially in vagina and arsehole.
A ten euro tip welcome.
BigBuddy69
05-05-20, 20:32
I asked if someone had real intel, not if the clubs were going to reopen soon because frankly, I have given up the idea of having fun in Germany for a long time.
We'll see what happens.
You give love to FKK girls and FKK girls aka prostitutes give you low level sex session LOL! This is easy to get. So lucky you.
I like hard dirty deep best I don't believe she just did this to me kind of session LOL! This is hard to get, but I managed as I am the professional prostitute hunter LOL!Once more, you don't understand words meaning. My meaning is sex just to empty balls is no interest for me, I pay for dream and I work with girls to get back this. I don't beg, I'm not a grocer for sex, I prefer what they will to give me, back from my behavior.
If Germany is cancelling Oktoberfest, there is no way they are going to allow FKKs to reopen. However, escorts are a different matter since there will not be crowds of people.
Do you really think that the German government is so stupid that he's going to believe some bullshit made up by FKK owners who want to save their business? We're talking about a life threatening disease here, not about a tiny chance of getting herpes by BJ. If a girl is infected and if she has 10 customers in the day, that means 10 more sick people, who will in turn infect their family and so on. The officials won't believe that from now on, everyone will be totally cautious and customers will only masturbate in front of the girl, separated by plexiglass.
I'd really like to believe you but honestly it sounds like science fiction to me.
About the massage parlors, are you talking about only therapeutic massage or also erotic massages?Seems to me that the way forward is to test the girls often. Maybe a few times a week. That way you know that they won't be spreading it very much. The chance that guys give it to each other can be similar to other public places.
TheNextOne
05-05-20, 22:03
I just found a video about Paradise Stutgart, to motivate people for the end of the pandemic!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6eiFe4UE8Q
Once more, you don't understand words meaning. My meaning is sex just to empty balls is no interest for me, I pay for dream and I work with girls to get back this. I don't beg, I'm not a grocer for sex, I prefer what they will to give me, back from my behavior.I pay for dreams too, but it is good dirty deep sex like pierre woodman style because that's my fetish I like to fulfill in FKK. By the way, to get this, I have to behave too while negotiating what I want in room. Like woodman during casting, he is nice, it is just when sex begin he turn into sex monster LOL! You have to be nice to them and charming, I mean I do get DFK on mouth from girls who does not DFK everybody don't I? And make them DFK my anal, which I always do, it is another level negotiation, and you got to be nice to convince them to DFK my anal, you know how many time I hear I don't do this in FKK, and I must convince her to DFK my anal, almost every time LOL. I got it from everyone, it is just that I must be nice and pay 50 euro extra LOL.
Sebastiane
05-06-20, 01:03
If Germany is cancelling Oktoberfest, there is no way they are going to allow FKKs to reopen. However, escorts are a different matter since there will not be crowds of people.That could mean that the best FKK girls end up on Kaufmich until the clubs reopen.
Any kind of restriction inside an FKK doesn't make any sense and is not workable. What could work is if there is a instant test that can check whether you have Covid19 or not, then everyone -- workers, staff and clients -- who enter could take the test in reception and only those passing be allowed through.
Although, more likely once the active cases goes down to zero, I'm sure clubs will open. They could use some things like no more than 50 in a club at a time. That's more realistic than masks and stuff.Need time to have test results and information is private. Many Chinese tests are not reliable. For my way for sex, you are stuck and rub on the girl, so distance is 0, just reality.
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If Germany is cancelling Oktoberfest, there is no way they are going to allow FKKs to reopen. However, escorts are a different matter since there will not be crowds of people.Yes, they are thinking about cancelling, when it s very important in Germany, for sure much more important than brothels and not so risky. I think only AO can be more risky than normal brothels at the moment, real playfield for virus, only 1 infected with R0 3, maybe 5, and spreading run, 1 girl can infect more than 5 guys a day, when many old, fat. Yes, if can move, if find a pretty enough escort to worth the rate, she should look for business at the moment. But not only Germany, maybe Austria will reopen and some girls should move to Vienna where 60 or 70/30, or Wellcum for 70/30. Spain should also reopen one day. Cleverness is ability to adapt.
TeaInTheSun
05-06-20, 10:53
If Germany is cancelling Oktoberfest, there is no way they are going to allow FKKs to reopen. However, escorts are a different matter since there will not be crowds of people.There is no way to get back FKK life as we knew it this year or someone is considering to kill the sublime or frenetic act of fucking with masks, gloves, fear, certain distance or touchless? In my case, FKKland is a kind of hobby that I allow myself once or twice a year. Let's see what happens on 2021 after the vaccine or when covid is one more virus like it was MERS, SARS and others that would kill the world and nothing happened. Of course, it is very sad to see people die, I already lost two friends of my family, but life goes on. Keep well!
If you meant outside the rooms, you are entitled to your opinion although in my opinion it is less important than in the rooms and much better than without FKK clubs at all. I don't think you meant in the rooms because you know how it went with condoms since July 2017 when you were supposed to wear condoms by law.The authorities are not going to require social distancing and the wearing of masks in FKK and then allow cavorting in the rooms as before, it makes no sense and they are not stupid. The use of condoms was purely a room issue. Coronavirus is an everywhere issue. They will reopen FKKs when it is no longer mandatory to social distance and wear masks.
Lucky Nuts
05-06-20, 15:49
Flying in to Kiev is not quite as easy as flying in to Germany or the Netherlands. I'm not sure about other public transportation but there are taxi drivers fighting to get you into their car at the airport. I paid 25 from the airport to the city via a pre-arranged taxi, arranged by the hotel. Taxi drivers there are famous for taking people site seeing. UKLON is their version of Uber and can be used to book trips with known pickup, drop off and price before getting in the cab. Car safety is sometimes questionable.
Would I go again, absolutely, even after being in that room with 3 police officers for 6 hours.LOL!
I only use Uber in Kiev inlcuding pickup at airport and it's super cheap. Less than $10 to Independence Square (Maiden) if I recall correctly.
Interesting info thanks for sharing.
I asked if someone had real intel, not if the clubs were going to reopen soon because frankly, I have given up the idea of having fun in Germany for a long time.
We'll see what happens.From a lady friend, working in a club. She will decide this week if she will seek other employment based on what the club hears. That said, either that club expects a decision from the government this week or that clyb will decide if they struggle to stay solvent beyond this week.
There is no way to get back FKK life as we knew it this year or someone is considering to kill the sublime or frenetic act of fucking with masks, gloves, fear, certain distance or touchless? In my case, FKKland is a kind of hobby that I allow myself once or twice a year. Let's see what happens on 2021 after the vaccine or when covid is one more virus like it was MERS, SARS and others that would kill the world and nothing happened. Of course, it is very sad to see people die, I already lost two friends of my family, but life goes on. Keep well!Maybe Austria should open earlier. Wait and see.
The authorities are not going to require social distancing and the wearing of masks in FKK and then allow cavorting in the rooms as before, it makes no sense and they are not stupid. The use of condoms was purely a room issue. Coronavirus is an everywhere issue. They will reopen FKKs when it is no longer mandatory to social distance and wear masks.As I said to BigBuddy69, let's see what happens next.
I pay for dreams too, but it is good dirty deep sex like pierre woodman style because that's my fetish I like to fulfill in FKK. By the way, to get this, I have to behave too while negotiating what I want in room. Like woodman during casting, he is nice, it is just when sex begin he turn into sex monster LOL! You have to be nice to them and charming, I mean I do get DFK on mouth from girls who does not DFK everybody don't I? And make them DFK my anal, which I always do, it is another level negotiation, and you got to be nice to convince them to DFK my anal, you know how many time I hear I don't do this in FKK, and I must convince her to DFK my anal, almost every time LOL. I got it from everyone, it is just that I must be nice and pay 50 euro extra LOL.When you look like him: bald, fat, hairy on belly, small dick, and he worked in police before, difficult frustrating job in France, can't you see all his frustration in his behavior? He is average look in FKK, when small size are frustrated about women. Normal size, meaning you are big in FKK land, are much more self confident with women, furthermore if they have a bit of knowledge and skill learned with women. I would be much more impressed by a guy whose woman would tell: my man makes me being happy.
From a lady friend, working in a club. She will decide this week if she will seek other employment based on what the club hears. That said, either that club expects a decision from the government this week or that clyb will decide if they struggle to stay solvent beyond this week.There are not many normal jobs either out there at the moment. Unemployment is up sharply everywhere. In the US 30% or perhaps even higher percent of the population are likely unemployed and many of the remaining are underemployed. Given that most restaurants, bars etc are either closed completely or some of them are open but with limited capacity and hence reduced staff, why would they be looking to add new employees? Much more likely that whoever was working before will have a shot at coming back, some of them anyway.
Even if one or two WGs get lucky here and there, most of them will find nothing and will be looking to return back to the fuck business ASAP.
The authorities are not going to require social distancing and the wearing of masks in FKK and then allow cavorting in the rooms as before, it makes no sense and they are not stupid. The use of condoms was purely a room issue. Coronavirus is an everywhere issue. They will reopen FKKs when it is no longer mandatory to social distance and wear masks.Mandatory masks and social distancing will be with us AT LEAST another year, so I don't expect clubs to reopen much before middle of next year at the soonest.
I asked if someone had real intel, not if the clubs were going to reopen soon because frankly, I have given up the idea of having fun in Germany for a long time.
We'll see what happens.FKK clubs will re-open when German government will let them re-open, it is very simple as that. Period. Very very simple.
There are not many normal jobs either out there at the moment. Unemployment is up sharply everywhere. In the US 30% or perhaps even higher percent of the population are likely unemployed and many of the remaining are underemployed. Given that most restaurants, bars etc are either closed completely or some of them are open but with limited capacity and hence reduced staff, why would they be looking to add new employees? Much more likely that whoever was working before will have a shot at coming back, some of them anyway.
Even if one or two WGs get lucky here and there, most of them will find nothing and will be looking to return back to the fuck business ASAP.Chinese WMD is the most powerful WMD after all LOL!
TeaInTheSun
05-07-20, 02:55
The authorities are not going to require social distancing and the wearing of masks in FKK and then allow cavorting in the rooms as before, it makes no sense and they are not stupid. The use of condoms was purely a room issue. Coronavirus is an everywhere issue. They will reopen FKKs when it is no longer mandatory to social distance and wear masks.That's right! Obviously, if someone is addicted to the FKK, they may not care much about wearing a mask and having a handjob with gloves, but I think for most of us, we would rather wait for the experience we had before. If all goes well, maaaaaybe it could be next winter. I prefer to wait until next year. My healthy and my right pleasure are my priorities.
FKK clubs will re-open when German government will let them re-open, it is very simple as that. Period. Very very simple.Even when club open, international visitors will not be allowed into the EU. The UK is talking about a 14 day quarantine. So, unless you are a EU resident, no nookie for you.
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ExpatLover
05-07-20, 05:38
FKK clubs will re-open when German government will let them re-open, it is very simple as that. Period. Very very simple.Hessen FKK including Shark are open and most of the FKK will open Thursday or beginning of next week. Probably the LU will be terrible, some old German woman around I guess. Even if you pay me high money I will never go before long long time, my health is far more important than fucking a prostitute. I consider that FKK activities are at the highest risk to get sick.
FKK clubs will re-open when German government will let them re-open, it is very simple as that. Period. Very very simple.When they are thinking to cancel their famous Oktoberfest which is much less risky than brothels, give a bit idea for FKK. But Austria may open earlier.
FKK clubs will re-open when German government will let them re-open, it is very simple as that. Period. Very very simple.Your answer is more difficult to accept for people who went on multiple trips per year, sometime even weekly, instead of multiple years between visits.
............Even if one or two WGs get lucky here and there, most of them will find nothing and will be looking to return back to the fuck business ASAP.Quite an optimistic view for a pessimist. I do not see things so promising. There is so much unemployment now yet the escort business has been the worst I have ever experienced.
Quite an optimistic view for a pessimist. I do not see things so promising. There is so much unemployment now yet the escort business has been the worst I have ever experienced.I am an equal opportunity pessimist across all industries, haha. I am not so optimistic that FKKs, especially the larger ones will open any time soon, I said a few times that the chance of opening prior to Sept is 5% in my estimation and even December is only 25% I think. I am just saying that most of the ex FKK girls have their own unique challenges in terms of finding alternative employment at this time: (a) the job market is very very tough for everyone and if things open at all, the ones getting hired back are the ones who used to work there previously and not brand new hires (b) these girls have no skill sets to speak of and the industries most suited for them viz food services, retail, receptionist etc are quite hard hit and going to operate at low levels of utilization for a substantial amount of time. There are also other challenges: these girls were used to making easy money, and what they can make standing vertical is a small fraction of what they used to make lying horizontally, and that bothers them and they will always be making comparisons to their past earnings; secondly, their habits became somewhat extravagant along with the amounts they were making. An example is that if they had not spent all that money on frivolous spending, they could have saved for a rainy day like this, but my guess is that very girls did. So, they will struggle to live on 10 Euros an hour when they were making 100 E an hour (or 350 an hour if they caught newbie Asians). Now, it will be a while before Asians will be allowed back inside the clubs.
Any which way I see it, these girls are in for a tough time. They should have saved for a time like this. An advice that works for all of us. So, my guess is, many of them are pining for old days and eagerly awaiting club reopens.
I attached a link to the situation in Romania in a comment a couple of days ago. Romania is doing worse than France, per that article. I just hope that their lover boys did not abuse them and confiscate whatever savings they had till now.
When they are thinking to cancel their famous Oktoberfest which is much less risky than brothels, give a bit idea for FKK. But Austria may open earlier.I agree. Yet, the Dutch Government announced yesterday that Sex Clubs will re-open on 1 Sept (2020).
And The Netherlands was hit much harder than Germany and is now in a much worse position than Germany wrt to corona.
Hard to understand.
Hessen FKK including Shark are open and most of the FKK will open Thursday or beginning of next week. Probably the LU will be terrible, some old German woman around I guess. Even if you pay me high money I will never go before long long time, my health is far more important than fucking a prostitute. I consider that FKK activities are at the highest risk to get sick.Are you sure!!
Any link to confirm??
I agree. Yet, the Dutch Government announced yesterday that Sex Clubs will re-open on 1 Sept (2020).
And The Netherlands was hit much harder than Germany and is now in a much worse position than Germany wrt to corona.
Hard to understand.Wish YY will reopen on 1 September, like NL. Austria may open on 1 July. France may open borders for Summer holidays, needing tourism income.
Kamsutra69
05-07-20, 22:36
No. They are not open yet.
Hessen FKK including Shark are open and most of the FKK will open Thursday or beginning of next week. Probably the LU will be terrible, some old German woman around I guess. Even if you pay me high money I will never go before long long time, my health is far more important than fucking a prostitute. I consider that FKK activities are at the highest risk to get sick.
Your answer is more difficult to accept for people who went on multiple trips per year, sometime even weekly, instead of multiple years between visits.Well that is the truth, government decide, then tell that to government not to me, it is not my decision, if it is up to me, it would be open already as it apparently is according to some posters.
I just went in Jan / Feb, so I am OK till like summer or winter even. I went last summer then I was OK even in Jan., but I went as I had to meet friend in other nations in Europe, so when in Europe I have to leach out to FKK also LOL!
Even when club open, international visitors will not be allowed into the EU. The UK is talking about a 14 day quarantine. So, unless you are a EU resident, no nookie for you.Funny thing is Europe who had such a high death rates is closing themselves to some international visitor that did by far better than France, Italy, Spain or UK LOL! I hope not to Japan because we are the one who is going to give them Avigan for free in may, one of two medicine that works.
Hessen FKK including Shark are open and most of the FKK will open Thursday or beginning of next week. Probably the LU will be terrible, some old German woman around I guess. Even if you pay me high money I will never go before long long time, my health is far more important than fucking a prostitute. I consider that FKK activities are at the highest risk to get sick.That is excellent news, I just went in Jan and Feb, so I am OK for while. Escorts are open here and kept open, but I am staying away as I prefer to protect my lungs and even though we got Avigan ready for all citizens this month, I rather not take medicines.
No. They are not open yet.I read in Globe forum that brothels and escorts are kept closed till August 31st as of now.
It is good thing I just went in Jan. / Feb., so I had enough of fucking white prostitutes woodman style LOL!
Meanwhile, I will see when I go and fuck some Eurasian girls here LOL! But I think I stay away from mongering till the situation for awhile till the situation is more calm, so let us go into mongering Ramadan LOL!
LaBambaBoy
05-08-20, 01:56
https://www.romania-insider.com/ec-ro-economy-6-percent-drop-may-2020
No. They are not open yet.I confirm: Real information is German brothels are not planned to reopen. Bavaria plan to reopen bars and restaurants, but not brothels which are more risky than legendary Oktoberfest which could be cancelled, when Germany have much more deaths than Greece or Portugal.
That is excellent news, I just went in Jan and Feb, so I am OK for while. Escorts are open here and kept open, but I am staying away as I prefer to protect my lungs and even though we got Avigan ready for all citizens this month, I rather not take medicines.And you believe all what You read? In FKK land of lies, better not to believe all what is written or what you are told. From my little experience, I believe what I see with my own eyes and what I experience. At the moment, Austria seem ahead for reopening maybe on July, NL maybe on September, Switzerland not before September, and nobody know for German brothels and no WG nor club owner can know, when legendary Oktoberfest, much less risky than brothels, really cultural in Germany, may be cancelled.
You are right to be careful about virus which not only attack lungs but can also infect blood, but Japan have magic medicine when France medical level let die people, it s true for some old and sick, doctors prefer to let them die quietly at home in their bed rather than under ventilator in hospital, when 80% deaths are old and most of others were sick before. Around 2000 who were not detected sick before, which don't mean they were not sick without knowing. Medical is not exact science like mathematics. But better to be careful, if You are not sure to be a iron warrior or if You have relatives like old mother You could kill. I was in FKK on mid March, girls didn t care about virus, even going with few Asians seen, but I m pretty sure it was already playfield for virus. Yesterday, when I saw Olga, when really slow business for escorts at the moment in Paris, it was full GFE with DFK, I forgot mask but I dreamed, and we ejected management for booking for our next times. I didn't ask anything but exactly same than with FKK Romanians, she showed me so much about her private, I really must have the face, or maybe manners, to be shown identity, private photos. About instagram, as I couldn't believe she has nearly 11 thousands followers who never saw her for real, only licking photos, stories and videos, like licking a window, but I enjoyed to lick her everywhere as she has good taste and firm flesh with nipples becoming dark and hardening. After only 1 hour, with a Russian modeling, never saw a Russian look like her in FKK, only half German half Ukrainian Fabienne at YY was on same level for look, I didn t lose too much skill and we agreed for 180 for 1 hour on next time when usual with agency is 250/ h. Once more, manners and skill are paying and she was funny on DATY: like most girls when they trust and feel they can finish, no noisy porn fake moaning, but they participate, rubbing clit on tongue while licking. Even prostitutes, but when they feel safe and trust, they can t resist to pleasure, they want pleasure which is not so often, I think quite a time she didn't get, when I saw her eyes like seeing the devil. Really enjoyable and of course, like with most FKK Romanian beauties, they will to please back after. You give, You receive and not always paying more. Will be less with her, succeeding after only 1 meeting. Wish the other model will be disappointing look, even wow photos, then I won t stay, because I would really like to spend a bit of time with this nice discovery and I love her so beautiful little female dog, so in love, following me everywhere, looking at me taking shower before and after, licking my trousers. She laughed a lot seeing her dog with me.
Germany wants to reopen the countrys bars and restaurants as early as this weekend. The chancellor has also spoken out in favor of lifting restrictions on schools and sports. Follow DW for the latest
19:01 Germany is aiming for a nationwide controlled reopening bars and restaurants between May 9 and May 22, news agency DPA has reported, following a video conference of state economy ministers with Germanys federal economy minister Peter Altmaier. Reopening of tourist accommodations is under consideration for the end of May.
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-as-it-happened-german-ministers-aim-to-reopen-restaurants-within-2-weeks/a-53331736
This sounds promising for FKK's.
This sounds promising for FKK's.Are brothels only bars or restaurants? Bavaria is reopening bars and restaurants, but Germans have also to put on mask to enter stores. For those who are in Germany and in hurry, find a escort on Kaufmich or else, I m pretty sure slow business for escorts, same like in Paris, because most of escorts clients, same like in FKK as tell me girls who can t believe I m not married, are married guys and most can t go now. I met German girls in brothels who also worked as escort: Sandra at Sharks, 2 at Samya, Tyra at Atmos, Sam and Gigi at GT where also Shayen, Coco.
Sebastiane
05-08-20, 10:45
You know you are a hardcore monger if the number one reason you want this covid19 pandemic to be over is so you can go back to an FKK club!
And you are more interested in what's happening in SWitzerland, Germany, Austria than your own country!
Mongering: A person who is actively researching and on the prowl for sexual intercourse with a professional or otherwise. This mostly happens away from home in a foreign Country or City, but can happen right in your own town.
Just in case you don't know who you are or you cannot see yourself, this above is you, nothing more, nothing less LOL!
Peter is the most beautiful city for me, even more than my Paris and real wow for women beauty, I will always remember my night with Olga for 400 USD, I managed badly on next day, but she helped me to be able to see again the sun. Not so easy to visit Russia, but I dream of a trip between Peter, Siberia to Vladivostok. Speaking Russian help a lot with Russians, and for sweet intimacy with Russian beauties.Agree, never tired of visiting the city, museums, churches, cemeteries, parks and gardens as well as all the palaces near by, and attending concerts and operas. Also love Moscow as well, so different form what Western media try to paint. These big cities are quite open and friendly.
The train trip to lake Baikal is supposed to be just fantastic. Probably less easy further to Vladivostok. I am too old for that, scared that if I have a stroke or a heart attack half way true, that my be bad.
As a tourists in St P and Moscow, Russian language is not really needed for non mongering activities. But, as I learnt in Japan, speaking a bit surely does make any encounter with local beauties far more entertaining.
This sounds promising for FKK's.I don't see FKKs opening until next year.
I don't see FKKs opening until next year.Not only Germany as FKK land. When you are a real free bird, maybe Austria for Summer, NL on September. Wait for Switzerland but not before September and Spain Catalunya for real Russians, Ukrainians, who are able to speak Russian, when no Russian or Ukrainian ID can work in Germany. Spain should not be before October. But most important for me is not brothels opening, but EU borders opening, only inside EU at the moment, to go to Dolomiti and to meet some girls, not needing clubs.
This is the page to look at to see when the Hesse clubs can open https://wirtschaft.hessen.de/wirtschaft/corona-info/darf-ich-mein-geschaeft-oeffnen.
I'm not optimistic for this year either. Any openings are useless for me as I couldn't get into Germany given the current regulations.
I agree. Yet, the Dutch Government announced yesterday that Sex Clubs will re-open on 1 Sept (2020).
And The Netherlands was hit much harder than Germany and is now in a much worse position than Germany wrt to corona.
Hard to understand.NL chose not confined, like Sweden, when Germany confined for about 6 weeks. Worst figures for deaths rate is NL twin, Belgium, even they confined. No logic, nothing about medical level when Africa manage better than Western Europe and US, when Greece and Portugal manage better than Germany, when many Portuguese come to France when they are sick to be cured. In France, we have district number 93 on North East Paris suburb, which is poorest district in France with many social problems and many people not respecting confined and not many hospitals, where deaths rate is the highest, and we have in center of France, district number 48 with no train big station, nor airport, they are quite isolated, even they are in center of France, they are famous for limousine cows with tasty meat and cheese, good foods and good restaurants, and they have no death from covid, but tourists will arrive and they need tourism to live. France and UK are following US, being poor and black or Maghrebian type kill, even they won t have to pay healthcare in France, reason why so many foreigners come to be cured in France with higher medical level and nothing to pay. Tax we pay, since I started to work, pay for this. When I often fight with administration about so heavy many tax we pay on our income, but at the moment I m happy to work, to try to save my job, to make income and pay tax and those who order me for job, who told me mid March: better to stop and use the law, are amazed to make big income under crisis, and clients seem happy to see we are able to take risks to respect contracts, despite many police controls and difficult to respect working safety conditions. But with the will, this is working, and should receive bonus, when most will have less income, but they are lucky to receive in France for staying at home, when no money nor anymore insurance in US.
ExpatLover
05-08-20, 18:38
This is the page to look at to see when the Hesse clubs can open.
I'm not optimistic for this year either. Any openings are useless for me as I couldn't get into Germany given the current regulations.
Shark, Oase. Are already open, but I will not visit until many months, first the health risk is very high in a FKK, second knowing that the borders of Germany are closed you can only except to have some German girls (not my cup of tea at all) , probably a really depressed LU for the coming months.
Agree, never tired of visiting the city, museums, churches, cemeteries, parks and gardens as well as all the palaces near by, and attending concerts and operas. Also love Moscow as well, so different form what Western media try to paint. These big cities are quite open and friendly.
The train trip to lake Baikal is supposed to be just fantastic. Probably less easy further to Vladivostok. I am too old for that, scared that if I have a stroke or a heart attack half way true, that my be bad.
As a tourists in St P and Moscow, Russian language is not really needed for non mongering activities. But, as I learnt in Japan, speaking a bit surely does make any encounter with local beauties far more entertaining.When I visited Peter and Moscow on mid December 2010 with my company, Peter is real museum city for me and wow Peterhof even waterfalls were closed, but in both, Russians are really low level for English, they can compete with French. Much easier when you can communicate in Russian I learned at school because of Barbara Bach who was Anya Anissimova in spy who loved me. It was snowy, days were short, but seeing such beauties walking on high heels in snow and wow Siberian Olga, even I didn't manage good with her, not easy about my company, gave sun to my mind when I was in the dark. Would like to return, but in June, if I find time one day. Dream about Ekaterinburg, Irkoutsk on Baïkal, Novossibirsk, Vladivostock, land of beauties, I m pretty sure, speaking Russian, with manners and skill, for not much more than 100 USD per day with restaurant and few gifts.
Easy, I just asked my only German friend, living south Frankfurt, and who often saw my behavior. His local information is: restaurants will open soon, shops are opened but with mask, but paid sex is illegal at the moment in Germany, when not illegal escorting in France, and clubs are closed. So many fakes and fakers, when Germans don't know about when reopening.
Easy, I just asked my only German friend, living south Frankfurt, and who often saw my behavior. His local information is: restaurants will open soon, shops are opened but with mask, but paid sex is illegal at the moment in Germany, when not illegal escorting in France, and clubs are closed. So many fakes and fakers, when Germans don't know about when reopening.Wow, you did? And he saw your "behavior" in FKK with prostitutes? Wow, that's great behavior LOL!
Funny thing is Europe who had such a high death rates is closing themselves to some international visitor that did by far better than France, Italy, Spain or UK LOL! I hope not to Japan because we are the one who is going to give them Avigan for free in may, one of two medicine that works.The EU don't really want to open up, but they must for member states because their economies are co-dependant. So, it has nothing to do with the rates. The rest of the world will be locked out because they cannot guarantee clean health. What might make a difference is an hour test. You could be tested before or after you fly and if you are clean, you get to enter the country. Of course, you will pay for the test. I would gladly do that to gain entry.
This is the page to look at to see when the Hesse clubs can open.
I'm not optimistic for this year either. Any openings are useless for me as I couldn't get into Germany given the current regulations.
Shark, Oase. Are already open, but I will not visit until many months, first the health risk is very high in a FKK, second knowing that the borders of Germany are closed you can only except to have some German girls (not my cup of tea at all) , probably a really depressed LU for the coming months.Recent report is that the virus is found in semen. Thus, when I come in her mouth, she may infect anyone she kisses. Want to take that risk?
Are brothels only bars or restaurants? Bavaria is reopening bars and restaurants, but Germans have also to put on mask to enter stores. For those who are in Germany and in hurry, find a escort on Kaufmich or else, I m pretty sure slow business for escorts, same like in Paris, because most of escorts clients, same like in FKK as tell me girls who can t believe I m not married, are married guys and most can t go now. I met German girls in brothels who also worked as escort: Sandra at Sharks, 2 at Samya, Tyra at Atmos, Sam and Gigi at GT where also Shayen, Coco.An FKK is like a bar but with sex guaranteed.
This is the page to look at to see when the Hesse clubs can open https://wirtschaft.hessen.de/wirtschaft/corona-info/darf-ich-mein-geschaeft-oeffnen.
Yep. On the site there is a list of businesses that are allowed vs. Not allowed to open. In the not allowed list are: sauna, brothels, laufhaus. Interestingly, Thai massage studios are allowed to open. Good luck getting happy endings if you must go there.
The EU don't really want to open up, but they must for member states because their economies are co-dependant. So, it has nothing to do with the rates. The rest of the world will be locked out because they cannot guarantee clean health. What might make a difference is an hour test. You could be tested before or after you fly and if you are clean, you get to enter the country. Of course, you will pay for the test. I would gladly do that to gain entry.Yeah only Germany is strong economical state by far with proper industries. I would say G7 should revised who are member states and should focus more on Global leading nations as EU is not working LOL, but problem is most nations in EU are not fit to stand alone as a country as you said, they need each others dependency to function as a country. Even during war, European nations could not even stop Germany till US came in. Same goes for Asia with Japan.
For NRW brothels (GT, LR, Samya, etc), check this twitter feed too.
https://twitter.com/landnrw/status/1256262746141794305?s=20
The EU don't really want to open up, but they must for member states because their economies are co-dependant. So, it has nothing to do with the rates. The rest of the world will be locked out because they cannot guarantee clean health. What might make a difference is an hour test. You could be tested before or after you fly and if you are clean, you get to enter the country. Of course, you will pay for the test. I would gladly do that to gain entry.EU countries have to restart their economy, shops are opened in Austria and Germany but with mask, France restart on Monday even not what I call freedom, Italy and Spain already did a bit, but France may only open borders on 15 June, Spain may wait until October killing tourism income. Maybe inside borders will open for Summer, meaning 1 July as seem planned for Austria, but Western Europe have to learn, to become much more independent.
Kamsutra69
05-09-20, 07:56
CIM won't be allowed then. It's risky even otherwise. The girl is going to get licked by every monger before you. That's why we go to them. To do things that we can't do with a regular partner.
I am optimistic in the sense that there will be cure to this virus soon. Otherwise I don't see the clubs opening before that.
Recent report is that the virus is found in semen. Thus, when I come in her mouth, she may infect anyone she kisses. Want to take that risk?
Kamsutra69
05-09-20, 08:00
FKK's should consider turning themselves in to strip clubs for now. Contactless performance with limited number of patrons. I would gladly go to take my mind off things.
An FKK is like a bar but with sex guaranteed.Much more risky than a bar. Bars will open, restaurants also, not brothels.
FKK will reopen when German government allow FKK to reopen. German government decide, not the sex forum LOL!
FKK's should consider turning themselves in to strip clubs for now. Contactless performance with limited number of patrons. I would gladly go to take my mind off things.I remember Hustler or David and Katy Guetta pink paradise in Paris, despite rules because of French law and security guys, but when girls agreed, you could foreplay, rub, inside and take appointment for outside, with Russian or Czech beauties, I even went to one 3 times in Praha on Summer 2005 between 2 girlfriends, but this was very expensive clubs, more than escorts. I won't drive to Germany for strip show, when I can have like in love behavior Russian beauties in Paris. I will go only for same level I got before confined, but solution may be to meet girls out of brothels, when borders will open.
ExpatLover
05-10-20, 18:35
FKK's should consider turning themselves in to strip clubs for now. Contactless performance with limited number of patrons. I would gladly go to take my mind off things.
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In fact it depends on the level of risk you are willing to take. Less contacts less risks to get infected. I checked how long the virus can survive on your clothes, a glass, a door handle, a desk, a table. It is just terrible probably it can survive several days on some metallic parts. Personally I have reduced to the strict minimum all my contacts, when I go shopping I wash all my things and don t touch them for several days. I consider dating prostitutes in brothels. Is at very high risk and I don t want to take any just for 1 minute of pleasure. Also I don t go to any bar, restaurant. This virus is extremely aggressive, most of the girls have no choice or don t want to consider another life and probably a big majority will come back in FKK as soon as possible to get fucked 10 times or more every day just to support their pimps, boy friends, husband. I have the choice therefor I will not visit any prostitute before long long time.
BigBuddy69
05-10-20, 21:41
Yes but when a massage parlor advertises about a lingam massage, this is some kind of sexual service. They specify on their website that no sex is allowed in the parlor but they're just playing with words.
Just let you know that all types of Massage parlors in NRW are allowed to be reopened from tomorrow (May 11).
I meant normal massage parlors which are legally not allowed to offer sex service.
BigBuddy69,
You asked me about massage a few days ago. Just let you know that all types of Massage parlors in NRW are allowed to be reopened from tomorrow (May 11), but I think you know it is illegal to offer any kind of sex service in massage parlors in Germany.
According to one poster on Rheinforum who studied new measures (see the link below), escort service will also be allowed in NRW from tomorrow although it is not clearly stated in the measures.
https://www.land.nrw/sites/default/files/asset/document/2020-05-08_fassung_coronaschvo_ab_11.05.2020_lesefassung_final_0.pdfAre you really sure NRW will allow escorting, when Germany put again under confined part of north Germany where many cases, to try to control fragile R0 . I think poor Rhur in NRW should be risky enough zone about virus.
BigBuddy69
05-11-20, 06:36
According to one poster on Rheinforum who studied new measures (see the link below), escort service will also be allowed in NRW from tomorrow although it is not clearly stated in the measures.
https://www.land.nrw/sites/default/files/asset/document/2020-05-08_fassung_coronaschvo_ab_11.05.2020_lesefassung_final_0.pdfAllowed or not, you'll still find some who are so addicted to pay sex that they think they're immortal. The same kind of guys who don't wear a mask and who will happily pass the virus to others.
EU countries have to restart their economy, shops are opened in Austria and Germany but with mask, France restart on Monday even not what I call freedom, Italy and Spain already did a bit, but France may only open borders on 15 June, Spain may wait until October killing tourism income. Maybe inside borders will open for Summer, meaning 1 July as seem planned for Austria, but Western Europe have to learn, to become much more independent.Except Germany, European nations are too weak to be independent, they depend on EU very much and Germany is the governor of EU. Some nations even failed by taking chinese easy money, but with strings attached even though we have been warning Europe about danger of chinese silk road strategy, they did not listen just like with masks and look what happened. It is called digging their own grave.
One week ago I got an update by a massage parlor woman via Whatsapp. She doesn't expect that the places (Frankfurt) should open within short notice. Yesterday I was meandering through the city center to look for windows being open in order to clean the air inside the rooms. Nothing.
Nonetheless there seem a few places to be open now as these entities already since the very past are promoting with classical medical Chinese massage.
Are you really sure NRW will allow escorting .... poor Rhur in NRW should be risky enough zone about virus.NRW is the hotspot for Corona since the very first beginning as e.g. carnival events worked like a splitter in several regions. But the prime minister of NRW since weeks is one of the opinion leaders arguing for more freedom especially in social life.
Yes but when a massage parlor advertises about a lingam massage, this is some kind of sexual service. They specify on their website that no sex is allowed in the parlor but they're just playing with words.I have never been to any massage parlor in Germany (or anywhere else), but I heard that some of them did offer sex, but you had to know them personally.
Netherlands will reopen all types of sex establishments from September 1 unless some unforeseen thing happens. You can go to FKK Sixsens at that time, but I know it is more than three and half months from now.
I have never been to any massage parlor in Germany (or anywhere else), but I heard that some of them did offer sex, but you had to know them personally.
Netherlands will reopen all types of sex establishments from September 1 unless some unforeseen thing happens. You can go to FKK Sixsens at that time, but I know it is more than three and half months from now.Austria may reopen paid sex on July. Vienna is wonderful town to visit and what a speed run through Germany, to warm tires. Wish for YY NL reopening on September.
I meant normal massage parlors which are legally not allowed to offer sex service.I don't really see why brothels shouldn't be allowed to open if the massage parlors are allowed to open, especially considering that some MP's offer extras.
It was, it is and it will be unnecessary to discuss any kind of features which male guests expect or are suprised to get in touch with when being in a club. Why? Nobody got a look beyond the closed door but assumptions and rumours make the round what happens and the conditions for realisation. Meanwhile it's ridiculous that traditional STD and HIV aren't anymore in the focus of board members (maybe most of the guys always have a broad-spectrum antibiotic in their pockets or stories about welllknown clubs are only fairy tales) but castles' building in the air thinking that there is a vaccine close to approval by FDA is the key for unlimited pleasure in the future??I generally use copious amounts of wet wipes on a babe before getting down to business. Post covid I will be using much more.
Sebastiane
05-11-20, 18:31
I wonder if any FKK girls especially from Romania have turned to Seeking Arrangement or other sugar baby websites during this Covid19 crisis as a way of earning money?
I have never been to any massage parlor in Germany (or anywhere else), but I heard that some of them did offer sex, but you had to know them personally.There are nuances, some do not offer any sexual services, some offer Lingam massages which is an oily hand job and then there are a few that offer full service, you should be able to see what's available on their web site. If a massage has full service then I recall hearing that there are additional taxes paid so that's why it won't be available in many.
Massage parlors are seedy and grungy. I can't imagine having to visit them in Frankfurt when they have lovely FKKs in the vicinity and where you could get a suck and then fuck a lovely 20 year old for 50 E. I also can't imagine visiting a MP just for a hand job. Sounds yucky to me. I would probably not visit these places in a place like Frankfurt even if they gave it to me for free.
Austria may reopen paid sex on July. Vienna is wonderful town to visit and what a speed run through Germany, to warm tires. Wish for YY NL reopening on September.As far as I know there is no plan for YY to re-open, I think it belongs to the past. Do you have any special info to share?
Massage parlors are seedy and grungy. I can't imagine having to visit them in Frankfurt when they have lovely FKKs in the vicinity and where you could get a suck and then fuck a lovely 20 year old for 50 E. I also can't imagine visiting a MP just for a hand job. Sounds yucky to me. I would probably not visit these places in a place like Frankfurt even if they gave it to me for free.+1, disgusting for me.
FKK's should consider turning themselves in to strip clubs for now. Contactless performance with limited number of patrons. I would gladly go to take my mind off things.
Reply.
In fact it depends on the level of risk you are willing to take. Less contacts less risks to get infected. I checked how long the virus can survive on your clothes, a glass, a door handle, a desk, a table. It is just terrible probably it can survive several days on some metallic parts. Personally I have reduced to the strict minimum all my contacts, when I go shopping I wash all my things and don t touch them for several days. I consider dating prostitutes in brothels. Is at very high risk and I don t want to take any just for 1 minute of pleasure. Also I don t go to any bar, restaurant. This virus is extremely aggressive, most of the girls have no choice or don t want to consider another life and probably a big majority will come back in FKK as soon as possible to get fucked 10 times or more every day just to support their pimps, boy friends, husband. I have the choice therefor I will not visit any prostitute before long long time.Expat,
You are right about danger of infection. Covid virus survives in the air for hours. Close, confined spaces will concentrate the viral load attacking your immune system. It is best to wait until everyone can get the antibody test. If you get the virus (asymptotic) and later test positive for antibodies, then you are free to frolic with Ro again. Until then, play it safe, stay home.
TankTank123
05-11-20, 22:58
I have never been to any massage parlor in Germany (or anywhere else), but I heard that some of them did offer sex, but you had to know them personally.Yes, correct. In Frankfurt, there some clean and spacious parlours. Kaskade and Velvet, for example are well run. Girls you have frequently patronised will agree to sex if you ask. Another nice one, called Pam's lounge used to be the same, but last year, they obtained a sex licence, and girls then openly offered it, for a costlier package.
Massage parlors are seedy and grungy. I can't imagine having to visit them in Frankfurt when they have lovely FKKs in the vicinity and where you could get a suck and then fuck a lovely 20 year old for 50 E. I also can't imagine visiting a MP just for a hand job. Sounds yucky to me. I would probably not visit these places in a place like Frankfurt even if they gave it to me for free.I never understand why some people go to massage parlor or red light district when there are such a good platform like FKK.
Maybe lack of knowledge, lazy or for bit cheaper price maybe. But satisfaction levels are much higher in FKK if they are seeking for ultimate sex experiences.
It is most wonderful feeling to see girls in front of you and choose to your liking real time. You can select this and that even two girls and tell them to suck your dick side ways at same time, one licking your ass or whatever, you can choose and do what you want in FKK, this is wonderful thing for heterosexual men who always want more and more new young beautiful girls.
Once you pop FKK, you cannot stop. Pringle ad slogan should have been for FKK.
... Kaskade and Velvet, for example are well run .... Pam's lounge used to be the same, but last year, they obtained a sex licence, and girls then openly offered it, for a costlier package.At Pam's you can see an information plate fixed somewhat hidden on the inside of the door of each room or on the wall where the mandatory use of condoms in case of some special features is mentioned. Thus there can be more but not only massage.
I wonder if any FKK girls .... turned to Seeking Arrangement .... sugar baby websites .... as way of earning money?In case their business model is based on different pillars there could be a bunch of ideas.
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