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............ the girls are always taking some form or antibiotics.This is bad as it could cause antibiotic resistant STDs.
PaulInZurich
07-21-20, 15:58
This is bad as it could cause antibiotic resistant STDs.It's very common for Romanians in general to take antibiotics when they have a bit of a cold even if it makes no sense. Doctors there give out antibiotics like candy.
It's very common for Romanians in general to take antibiotics when they have a bit of a cold even if it makes no sense. Doctors there give out antibiotics like candy.Nothing compared to Thailand though. There there are a pharmacy at every corner, and girls eat them on a daily basis. Plus the drugs are usually 2-3 times as potent as they are in Europe and USA.
Sorry, not FKK but this goes to some of these fears being expressed here.
https://time.com/5858586/covid-19-red-light-district-amsterdam/
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/amsterdam-prostitute-hotel/index.html
Before the lockdown, Amsterdam Mayor Femke Halsema was already considering a major overhaul of the Red Light District in a bid to reduce disruptive behavior and protect the sex workers from degrading conditions. In May, she said that the pandemic has highlighted the "urgency to think about the city center of the future."
Halsema has presented four scenarios for the district, which range from reducing the number of brothel windows to moving sex workers to a new location.
She has also suggested opening a "prostitution hotel" outside the center and said in May that the search for a new location was well under way. The council will hold a vote on the scenarios after the summer, a spokesperson told CNN.
New rules have already been introduced. Tour guides are no longer allowed to stop in front of the windows and tourists are banned from taking pictures of the sex workers.
Sex workers fear the district will be closed down and that they will be moved to a remote location outside the city center..Salaam!
And this is exactly what we have been saying here on a FKK boards for a long time! FKK some red light window or a stinky building.
This 'hotel' will probably end up like an FKK.
Polyamorist
07-22-20, 01:52
Salaam!
Hey I thought I was the only Arab on here, but now some people are pretending.
Looks like they are going to shut down Amsterdam the same way they are shutting down Hamburg. Using the usual umbrella excuse: COVID-19. There is no tute on earth naive enough to believe any intervention of this kind can be anything but destruction.
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. " -- Someone Who Loved Government So Much he Took It Over And Grew It 60%.
Salaam!
And this is exactly what we have been saying here on a FKK boards for a long time! FKK some red light window or a stinky building.
This 'hotel' will probably end up like an FKK.Hi Pistons,
Yes, that was my first thought too. If all the tutes are in one building, it makes selection easier. However, this is being forced upon them and not with any good intent to help or make the sex business flourish. It is obviously to clean up the sex district and transform it like Time Square from 1990's to now.
P6 is used by a small percentage of the population. And if you are going to count the men who actually see a WG regularly (as in more than ten times a year), we are talking probably less than 1 percent of the population. Nobody gives a shit but us hardcore mongers. The problem is there are not that many hardcore mongers, and even less who would voluntarily relinquish their anonymity to participate in a protest. If prostitution were abolished in Germany tomorrow, very few people would put up a fight. Just like nobody really put up a fight when similar things happened in USA or France. Rather than protest the anti-P6 laws, these American and French men "blindly followed their politicians".
Since the closing of FKK clubs back in March, many local mongers quit P6. However, the more hardcore ones continue to engage in P6 either illegally in DEU or travelling to other countries where it is currently legal. Again no different to what American and French mongers have done for years.What is your theory why P6 was legalized and that too at such large scale, in such a public fashion, mega FKks, in the first place? If advocates are not many and are too shy to ask for it publicly, and politicians always benefit by posing around as tough on sex and crime and sexual crime, what was the impetus to have made it happen and what changed from then to now.
(Please go light on feminist bashing and rants. Not you McA, but others).
HammerTime96
07-22-20, 11:33
Hey I thought I was the only Arab on here, but now some people are pretending.
Looks like they are going to shut down Amsterdam the same way they are shutting down Hamburg. Using the usual umbrella excuse: COVID-19. There is no tute on earth naive enough to believe any intervention of this kind can be anything but destruction.
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. " -- Someone Who Loved Government So Much he Took It Over And Grew It 60%.Indeed, and the political pattern is very clear: Femke Halsema is a member of the Dutch extreme leftwing Green Party (former Communist Party of The Netherlands) and Hamburg is ruled by a coalition of SPD (socialists) and Greens.
It's always very typical and funny how hypocritical those leftwing parties are: preaching "diversity, tolerance and freedom" but once in power they start to outlaw and censor everything and everybody.
I'm afraid that the Swedish model (also ruled by leftwing social democrats for decades) for P6 will be introduced in Europe, and CV19 is the prefect scapegoat but the naive Germans still blindly trust their politicians and government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburg_Parliament
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GroenLinks
What is your theory why P6 was legalized and that too at such large scale, in such a public fashion, mega FKks, in the first place? If advocates are not many and are too shy to ask for it publicly, and politicians always benefit by posing around as tough on sex and crime and sexual crime, what was the impetus to have made it happen and what changed from then to now.When decriminalization happened in 2002, the impetus was NOT male mongers taking to the streets and fighting for their rights. But rather, it was politicians who believed that legalization would create safer working conditions for WGs. The legalization of prostitution was seen as "progressive" and a victory for yes even the feminists. They believed WGs would be emancipated from the criminals that exploited them.
"The idea of the law, passed by Chancellor Gerhard Schrders Social Democrat-Green coalition, was to recognise prostitution as a job like any other. Sex workers could now enter into employment contracts, sue for payment and register for health insurance, pension plans and other benefits. Exploiting prostitutes was still criminal but everything else was now above board. Two female politicians and a Berlin madam were pictured clinking their champagne glasses in celebration."
https://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/projects/welcome-to-paradise/.By 2017, those same proponents had come to realize that legalization had been a failed experiment. The laws introduced in 2017 were an attempt to correct the miscalculations of the 2002 draft.
"The desired effect for sex workers has not been achieved. Sex workers have not made use of their rights. Only one percent of sex workers have signed a legal work contract. A survey conducted by the Social Science Research Institute on Women's Studies at Freiburg's Protestant University of Applied Sciences also showed that the overwhelming majority of state-regulated health insurance companies and pension schemes do not list prostitution as a profession."
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-introduces-unpopular-prostitution-law/a-39511761
When decriminalization happened in 2002, the impetus was NOT male mongers taking to the streets and fighting for their rights. But rather, it was politicians who believed that legalization would create safer working conditions for WGs. The legalization of prostitution was seen as "progressive" and a victory for yes even the feminists. They believed WGs would be emancipated from the criminals that exploited them.
By 2017, those same proponents had come to realize that legalization had been a failed experiment. The laws introduced in 2017 were an attempt to correct the miscalculations of the 2002 draft.Basically correct the miscalculations as in AO clubs mostly? Which as a collateral damage affected our BBBJ package at standard rate.
If former Warsaw Pact countries were already EU members before the 2002 law was passed or German legislators decided to write the law years later (like after 2008), do you think it be the same or there will be differences? IMO they might make it harder for sex businesses (including escort agencies) to hire foreign girls or operate independently, especially from hot trafficking spots like Romania or Russia. They might introduce fines for customers who see trafficked girls like in the UK or even jail time. What do you think?
When decriminalization happened in 2002, the impetus was NOT male mongers taking to the streets and fighting for their rights. But rather, it was politicians who believed that legalization would create safer working conditions for WGs. The legalization of prostitution was seen as "progressive" and a victory for yes even the feminists. They believed WGs would be emancipated from the criminals that exploited them.
By 2017, those same proponents had come to realize that legalization had been a failed experiment. The laws introduced in 2017 were an attempt to correct the miscalculations of the 2002 draft.If the original intent was based on a recognition that WGs are unsafe in an environment where prostitution was not legalized, that recognition is still there. I don't see any evidence that the prior recognition has vanished. Ditto about trying to protect the girls from criminal elements as you put it.
I read the 2017 laws as trying to improve on the prior bills, and not as a change of heart. I see a contradiction in your language. You call it "a failed experiment" in their perception, but then use the phrase "correct the miscalculations". Very few people expect a new experiment to succeed 100%, completely. After a while, they make an assessment and make changes to improve it, which you suggested with your phrase "correct the miscalculations". But "failed experiment" is too dramatic. If they had believed the entire thing is a failure, they would have made much more dramatic changes and not simply "don't suck dick with no condom" rules which as we all know is completely and universally violated as long as the girl is enticed with a longer session or more money if the monger is an Asian visitor.
I lean towards the view they prefer prostitution in a safe and legal establishment and would let it continue when the Covid situation is under control.
.........By 2017, those same proponents had come to realize that legalization had been a failed experiment..........In FKKs the customers were happy and the working girls were happy. The only people who were unhappy were the impotent men and frigid women in authority.
What was the website you guys were following to find the latest news on potential FKK openings in Germany?
I do hear SS is hot right now, and the Austrian clubs are improving. But I'm still a bit on the fence here.
What was the website you guys were following to find the latest news on potential FKK openings in Germany?
I do hear SS is hot right now, and the Austrian clubs are improving. But I'm still a bit on the fence here.If you mean 6 ens NL with girls wearing mask in lounge bar, when usually very average casting, maybe prettier with mask.
If the original intent was based on a recognition that WGs are unsafe in an environment where prostitution was not legalized, that recognition is still there. I don't see any evidence that the prior recognition has vanished. Ditto about trying to protect the girls from criminal elements as you put it.
I read the 2017 laws as trying to improve on the prior bills, and not as a change of heart. I see a contradiction in your language. You call it "a failed experiment" in their perception, but then use the phrase "correct the miscalculations". Very few people expect a new experiment to succeed 100%, completely. After a while, they make an assessment and make changes to improve it, which you suggested with your phrase "correct the miscalculations". But "failed experiment" is too dramatic. If they had believed the entire thing is a failure, they would have made much more dramatic changes.In 2002, there seemed to be more widespread support for legalization. I believe the pendulum has swung the other way. Most WGs do not want to register, despite the legal protections, insurances, and pension. No different than mongers who by and large do not want to register. From a human rights perspective, I believe the alleged increase in trafficking activity since 2002 has brought negative attention to Germany.
So yes, "failed experiment" might employ them giving up entirely. Clearly what the government did was reassess, and introduce stricter legislation in an attempt to curb the problem (I. E. all WGs must register, all WGs must provide physical permanent address and not sleep in club etc). But if the attempts to curb the problem are not successful, then what?
"When the law changed to decriminalize brothels there really was widespread support. Many people naively believed that legalization and regulation would turn prostitution into a supposedly 'normal' kind of business. In the past five years, however, theres been a shift back towards a broader consensus in the other direction, as we realize that things have gotten worse, that there are victims of trafficking still. Its as if abuse is now carrying on with a legalized varnish."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-03-25/amsterdam-s-latest-quest-to-tame-legalized-prostitution.
Job Cohen said he doesn't want prostitution or drugs recriminalized, but would like to shutdown the shops showcasing the prostitutes from behind glass windows.
Hesaid a move in 2000 to legalize prostitution failed to curb gangsters running Amsterdam's sex trade.
Legalization "didn't bring us what we hoped and expected," he told reporters at the upscale Krasnapolsky Hotel on Dam Square, which backs onto the red-light district.
"We want in part to reverse it, especially with regard to the exploitation of women in the sex industry," he said.
Officials fear women are being forced into prostitution, something that legalization was supposed to prevent.
"We have seen in the last years that women trafficking has becoming more, so in this respect the legalizing of the prostitution didn't work out," Cohen said.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mayor-unveils-plan-to-clean-up-amsterdam-s-red-light-district-1.674880
In 2002, there seemed to be more widespread support for legalization. I believe the pendulum has swung the other way. Most WGs do not want to register, despite the legal protections, insurances, and pension. No different than mongers who by and large do not want to register. From a human rights perspective, I believe the alleged increase in trafficking activity since 2002 has brought negative attention to Germany.
So yes, "failed experiment" might employ them giving up entirely. Clearly what the government did was reassess, and introduce stricter legislation in an attempt to curb the problem (I. E. all WGs must register, all WGs must provide physical permanent address and not sleep in club etc). But if the attempts to curb the problem are not successful, then what?In the worst case scenario, we got Switzerland, that money aggressive nation will always provide prostitution. Legal age was 18, but it was even 16 before, now changed back to 18. Switzerland is our last place standing in rainy day, if such rainy day will come.
If you mean 6 ens NL with girls wearing mask in lounge bar, when usually very average casting, maybe prettier with mask.LOL Mask LOL!
I bet within first few minutes, set sentence said to girls by mongers would be like, can you lift up your mask? LOL Then mask off test is pass, let go to the room, and the mask off test is failed, you tell her, you have to return some video tapes and walks away LOL.
What was the website you guys were following to find the latest news on potential FKK openings in Germany?
I do hear SS is hot right now, and the Austrian clubs are improving. But I'm still a bit on the fence here.I check the website called: http://internationalsexguide.nl/ LOL!
What was the website you guys were following to find the latest news on potential FKK openings in Germany?
There is no ONE website we can follow. From what I have read from a German board, it seems that reopening the sex establishments (including FKK clubs) would not come from German government probably until vaccine or effective drugs are developed.
There were some lawsuits from various brothels, but all of them failed. It is still possible that one or a few lawsuits would succeed in the future, but most of these lawsuits would come from normal brothels, not FKK clubs because I think that the owners of FKK clubs know there is almost no chance that their lawsuits will succeed at this point.
There is no ONE website we can follow. From what I have read from a German board, it seems that reopening the sex establishments (including FKK clubs) would not come from German government probably until vaccine or effective drugs are developed.
There were some lawsuits from various brothels, but all of them failed. It is still possible that one or a few lawsuits would succeed in the future, but most of these lawsuits would come from normal brothels, not FKK clubs because I think that the owners of FKK clubs know there is almost no chance that their lawsuits will succeed at this point.What are the grounds on which they are suing? Differential treatment of various establishments? Is it because German government allowed some establishments like restaurants to open and FKKs and other commercial sex centers feel they have the same rights?
I assume German central government or the local governments have the legal ability to shut down businesses in their local jurisdictions due to reasons such as a pandemic outbreak?
Thanks for info. Does this mean eg Artemis "current open hours" on webside I fake news?
There is no ONE website we can follow. From what I have read from a German board, it seems that reopening the sex establishments (including FKK clubs) would not come from German government probably until vaccine or effective drugs are developed.
There were some lawsuits from various brothels, but all of them failed. It is still possible that one or a few lawsuits would succeed in the future, but most of these lawsuits would come from normal brothels, not FKK clubs because I think that the owners of FKK clubs know there is almost no chance that their lawsuits will succeed at this point.
Alessandro527
07-25-20, 04:43
Thanks for info. Does this mean eg Artemis "current open hours" on webside I fake news?Your health is important to us that's why we close our club temporarily.
Stay healthy, we're looking forward to see you soon.
Your Artemis-Team.
What are the grounds on which they are suing? Differential treatment of various establishments? Is it because German government allowed some establishments like restaurants to open and FKKs and other commercial sex centers feel they have the same rights?
I assume German central government or the local governments have the legal ability to shut down businesses in their local jurisdictions due to reasons such as a pandemic outbreak?The main argument from the brothel owners was that because the massage parlors and other body-contact business like tattoo studios and nail salons are allowed to reopen, the brothels with "hygiene concept" should have the same rights and be allowed to reopen due to the similiarity. "Hygiene concept" is mainly defined as collecting personal info of prostitute visitors such as phone number and email address and wearing masks during the sessions as required by the government measures for other body-contact business.
The main reasoning for the rejections by the courts was that prostitute visitors will not give real personal info because they are afraid that their wives, relatives, friends and other people will know they visited prostitutes. In a few cases the judges also believe that wearing masks during sex is unrealistic.
Alessandro527
07-25-20, 16:44
The main argument from the brothel owners was that because the massage parlors and other body-contact business like tattoo studios and nail salons are allowed to reopen, the brothels with "hygiene concept" should have the same rights and be allowed to reopen due to the similiarity. "Hygiene concept" is mainly defined as collecting personal info of prostitute visitors such as phone number and email address and wearing masks during the sessions as required by the government measures for other body-contact business.
The main reasoning for the rejections by the courts was that prostitute visitors will not give real personal info because they are afraid that their wives, relatives, friends and other people will know they visited prostitutes. In a few cases the judges also believe that wearing masks during sex is unrealistic.I think that the main reason does not have to do with the visitors but the girls. None of them will use mask or take hygiene measures because they give a shit to all this when it comes to the colour of money, let's be realistic.
FKK clubs cannot work with measures, it will be either like before or they close.
In FKKs the customers were happy and the working girls were happy. The only people who were unhappy were the impotent men and frigid women in authority.Unfortunately, mongers, WGs, brothel operators do not have much political influence. Protests from stigmatized, marginalized populations like us would fall on deaf ears. Not only that, the number of mongers is numerically small, and the amount of mongers who would openly identify as mongers to support a "Monger Lives Matter" movement would be even smaller. For issues such as reopening (or legalization), it requires the support of "outsider" parties (social workers, politicians). Would be curious to see the turn out of this protest in Cologne on 29th: https://allevents.in/cologne/hurendemo-rotlichtan/200019940576753.
Do you have proof that only a small percentage of population pays for sex? Given the amount of sex workers and establishments in a country like Germany I think it's more common than you think, but not too many people will admit paying for sexWhen participating in such polls about activities that are not socially acceptable, some men might lie. This is a valid argument. I assume their surveying methodology would allow for some anonymity. Perhaps a written survey that one can fill out without providing their name. About ten percent of men in Germany visit brothels. Amongst the men who admitted to visiting brothels, 35 percent go at least once a month. Perhaps we need to increase the estimate by 25 percent to get the "actual numbers": https://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/umfrage-unter-deutschen-maennern-33-prozent-geben-geld-fuer-sex-aus_aid_834202.html.
The main argument from the brothel owners was that because the massage parlors and other body-contact business like tattoo studios and nail salons are allowed to reopen, the brothels with "hygiene concept" should have the same rights and be allowed to reopen due to the similiarity. "Hygiene concept" is mainly defined as collecting personal info of prostitute visitors such as phone number and email address and wearing masks during the sessions as required by the government measures for other body-contact business.
The main reasoning for the rejections by the courts was that prostitute visitors will not give real personal info because they are afraid that their wives, relatives, friends and other people will know they visited prostitutes. In a few cases the judges also believe that wearing masks during sex is unrealistic.Interesting. Thanks for that. Seems like the rationale of judges is sound and also practical.
Seems like they are concerned about spread of the virus, as much as the first contact itself. I. e. Not whether a guy / girl catches corona from the girl / guy or another monger but also whether it can traced afterwards? I guess the masks during sex issue shows some concern for the former.
Of course if you actually ask any real monger if mask during sex is likely, I think the chance they will say "fuck no!" is very high, LOL. Not to mention, those masks are so stifling even during normal store visits etc, if a guy is pumping the girl vigorously during sex w / a mask, he might suffer real breathing problems.
Is there a second level appeal process after first level of rulings?
Unfortunately, mongers, WGs, brothel operators do not have much political influence. Protests from stigmatized, marginalized populations like us would fall on deaf ears. Not only that, the number of mongers is numerically small, and the amount of mongers who would openly identify as mongers to support a "Monger Lives Matter" movement would be even smaller. For issues such as reopening (or legalization), it requires the support of "outsider" parties (social workers, politicians). Would be curious to see the turn out of this protest in Cologne on 29th: https://allevents.in/cologne/hurendemo-rotlichtan/200019940576753.
When participating in such polls about activities that are not socially acceptable, some men might lie. This is a valid argument. I assume their surveying methodology would allow for some anonymity. Perhaps a written survey that one can fill out without providing their name. About ten percent of men in Germany visit brothels. Amongst the men who admitted to visiting brothels, 35 percent go at least once a month. Perhaps we need to increase the estimate by 25 percent to get the "actual numbers": https://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/umfrage-unter-deutschen-maennern-33-prozent-geben-geld-fuer-sex-aus_aid_834202.html.We keep debating this. There has never been a time in the history of any nation I am aware of, where a majority of men proudly and openly admitted to being mongers, or a lot of ladies admitted to being prostitutes. It has always had a stigma attached to it and yet is the world's oldest profession and is one of the most recession proof activities. In a prior post, you simply said there was more support in 2002 and somehow things changed because they expected some improvement due to legalization and instead were turned off by the trafficking. While no doubt there is some reevaluation and some disappointment, I think that is too much of a glib explanation. Personally, I am willing to wait and see how this turns out and not be despondent immediately. I am more of an incrementalist and do not trust forecasts of massive step changes.
Your health is important to us that's why we close our club temporarily.
Stay healthy, we're looking forward to see you soon.
Your Artemis-Team.Good for me Artemis is closed, because I could find at Globe a elegant new beauty, as rare as pandas now at Globe, much prettier face than Linda, Megan level for face, and really lovely with good manners. Just miss little Romanian spark, but real pleasure with such sophisticated beauty, I drive and pay for this. Despite 2 hours of engine mechanic going to Zurich, since 50000 kms I don't know how I will succeed to make it reliable, but as I told her at the end of our discovery, I returned on next week end, I always try to respect my promise, even in brothels.
The main argument from the brothel owners was that because the massage parlors and other body-contact business like tattoo studios and nail salons are allowed to reopen, the brothels with "hygiene concept" should have the same rights and be allowed to reopen due to the similiarity. "Hygiene concept" is mainly defined as collecting personal info of prostitute visitors such as phone number and email address and wearing masks during the sessions as required by the government measures for other body-contact business.
The main reasoning for the rejections by the courts was that prostitute visitors will not give real personal info because they are afraid that their wives, relatives, friends and other people will know they visited prostitutes. In a few cases the judges also believe that wearing masks during sex is unrealistic.While I do hope the clubs would open, the courts and the governments are right. With fresh outbreaks everywhere, brothels are a significant risk that is hard to mitigate. In general, the sex industry creates a lot of problems from trafficking to money laundering. That is why they are frequently targeted. It is not just the feminist argument. But they do serve a place in society too. What we have consistently seen with the virus is short term decisions made with the emphasis on profits do not work. If an outbreak is traced to a brothel, you can expect them all to be shut down. Brothels have many high risk factors. Travelers from distant places. No social distancing and difficulty of using masks as well as confined areas. None of this is favorable in controlling the virus. The best hope is driving the number of infections very low, to non-existent, in as great an area as possible and restricting mobility. Escorts are a better option at this time.
A user from Lusthaus posted a link to a study on the Swedish model of prostitution conducted by the German Ministry of Health. The user summarizes that although Swedish model has some advantages, it criticizes the bad science behind them and wouldn't benefit prostitutes in the event of a ban. Link to study in German:https://www.bundestag.de/resource/blob/678116/53f1edc9dc0f14f544a4bb076edfa9f4/WD-9-082-19-pdf-data.pdf.
A user from Lusthaus posted a link to a study on the Swedish model of prostitution conducted by the German Ministry of Health. The user summarizes that although Swedish model has some advantages, it criticizes the bad science behind them and wouldn't benefit prostitutes in the event of a ban. Link to study in German:https://www.bundestag.de/resource/blob/678116/53f1edc9dc0f14f544a4bb076edfa9f4/WD-9-082-19-pdf-data.pdf.Good to hear. Although the German model is not perfect, a very restrictive model like the Swedish one leads to more girl exploitation and crime. Long live the FKK model!
Is there a second level appeal process after first level of rulings?I am not sure. I will post more about this here if I find out more.
I think that the main reason does not have to do with the visitors but the girls. None of them will use mask or take hygiene measures because they give a shit to all this when it comes to the colour of money, let's be realistic.
FKK clubs cannot work with measures, it will be either like before or they close.Covid 19 affects older people. Young people infected with the virus are unaffected physically and most show no symptoms. The working girls are all young. The party that should be most concerned are the older mongers.
The jealousy goes as far back as to the beginning of religion itself, and from when the 'angels' came down to fuck with human women. As seen in all religions since old Sumeria. So it is kinda based on racism too.Both Pussy and cock do not have religion. But both are a perfect match.
Also, when mongering, you never ask someone else religion. What mater is whether both parties attract each other. Attraction is not necessarily from look but could also come from money.
Both Pussy and cock do not have religion. But both are a perfect match.
Also, when mongering, you never ask someone else religion. What mater is whether both parties attract each other. Attraction is not necessarily from look but could also come from money.I was with wow aura, Muslim Iranian beauty in GT Vienna, 26 yo, for 5 years in business, but so many taboos for really intimate sex, I felt I was with a virgin who doesn't know anything about sexuality. Same with many Romanians, really poor sexuality in Romania. Sexuality is not only being fucked, but a bit of knowledge, best is to learn with partner, for love for partner. So many times, girls look at me with big round eyes when touching them, for sure, despite being fucked whole day, but they discover some foreplay.
A user from Lusthaus posted a link to a study on the Swedish model of prostitution conducted by the German Ministry of Health. The user summarizes that although Swedish model has some advantages, it criticizes the bad science behind them and wouldn't benefit prostitutes in the event of a ban. Link to study in German:https://www.bundestag.de/resource/blob/678116/53f1edc9dc0f14f544a4bb076edfa9f4/WD-9-082-19-pdf-data.pdf.Swedish model is to prosecute clients, so, drunk Swedish go on sex boats between Sweden and Tallin Estonia. France also prosecute clients when prostitution is still legal with many escorts agencies advertising or girls in streets close to very chic and very expensive Paris 16th district.
ExpatLover
07-27-20, 09:01
I was with wow aura, Muslim Iranian beauty in GT Vienna, 26 yo, for 5 years in business, but so many taboos for really intimate sex, I felt I was with a virgin who doesn't know anything about sexuality. Same with many Romanians, really poor sexuality in Romania. Sexuality is not only being fucked, but a bit of knowledge, best is to learn with partner, for love for partner. So many times, girls look at me with big round eyes when touching them, for sure, despite being fucked whole day, but they discover some foreplay.
Reply EL: most of the mongers are married or have GF, they don t want to take health risk by doing oral. They just want to fuck, come and go to another girl or home.
I was with wow aura, Muslim Iranian beauty in GT Vienna, 26 yo, for 5 years in business, but so many taboos for really intimate sex, I felt I was with a virgin who doesn't know anything about sexuality. Same with many Romanians, really poor sexuality in Romania. Sexuality is not only being fucked, but a bit of knowledge, best is to learn with partner, for love for partner. So many times, girls look at me with big round eyes when touching them, for sure, despite being fucked whole day, but they discover some foreplay.If she is already five years in business than it is more to do with attitude rtaher than taboo. You could find any girl from any nationality, religion behaving like that. They just want an easy money without minimum effort. They best way to do is not to give them a repated business, name and shame them so other guys will avoid them as well.
If she is already five years in business than it is more to do with attitude rtaher than taboo. You could find any girl from any nationality, religion behaving like that. They just want an easy money without minimum effort. They best way to do is not to give them a repated business, name and shame them so other guys will avoid them as well.Not at all, she is a rare elegance and beauty in FKK land. With around 1300 rooms with the prettiest in any club in FKK land, I didn't see 5 girls with her aura, but after business for 5 years, she is not used to let go on DATY, she has to feel the respectful manners, and when orgasm made come earlier her period, she never had bloody sex under period, she thought it was dirty, furthermore in brothels, but with manners and a bit of knowledge about sexuality and women, exceptional even complicated, rare time with a rare girl. Not first time DATY orgasm make come earlier period, then having bloody sex at Mainhattan, twice at GT, at Globe, reality for sexuality like at home, not just suck and fuck to empty balls I don t pay for.
Both Pussy and cock do not have religion. But both are a perfect match.
Also, when mongering, you never ask someone else religion. What mater is whether both parties attract each other. Attraction is not necessarily from look but could also come from money.Actually, money is just a means to an end. So it is not really a variable in and of itself. But sort of a ladder to climb the heriarchy of needs.
But once you have already maxed this hierarchy of needs, then money looses all its value. And attraction will have nothing to do with money any longer.
Then again, there might be something hardwired into females in terms of acquiring 'gifts' in change off sex. Like a rose, or a perfume. Basically just legal forms of prostitution. Or as the term prostitution has been associated badly in society, lets call it escorting instead. Or just short form: P6.
A question for the more experienced who have attended New Year parties.
Of course with the current situation this could be a hypothetical question but I got nothing else to do but plan.
New years and New Years day, what are they like? Will there be a good line up or will it be down? Also Saturday is on the 2nd January, will this be like a normal Saturday.
If the clubs are rammed, is it a good idea to get there earlier than you usually would.
I am aware lots of girls return home around New Year but when exactly? Do they stick around for the 3 dates mentioned above.
My plan is to arrive Thursday 31st December and leave Monday 4th January.
Hoping everything will be back to normal so it will actually happen.
Thanks in advance.
Swedish model is to prosecute clients, so, drunk Swedish go on sex boats between Sweden and Tallin Estonia. France also prosecute clients when prostitution is still legal with many escorts agencies advertising or girls in streets close to very chic and very expensive Paris 16th district.I wonder if those 16 German MPs that called for prostitution ban read the report from their government regarding the Swedish model. You are French right? The government of France released a report that evaluated the 2016 sex purchase law. A sex worker activist summarized it. Link in French:http://ma.lumiere.rouge.blogs.libera. -rendu-public /.
Smoke Light
07-30-20, 04:13
A question for the more experienced who have attended New Year parties.
Of course with the current situation this could be a hypothetical question but I got nothing else to do but plan.
New years and New Years day, what are they like? Will there be a good line up or will it be down? Also Saturday is on the 2nd January, will this be like a normal Saturday.
If the clubs are rammed, is it a good idea to get there earlier than you usually would.
I am aware lots of girls return home around New Year but when exactly? Do they stick around for the 3 dates mentioned above.
My plan is to arrive Thursday 31st December and leave Monday 4th January.
Hoping everything will be back to normal so it will actually happen.
Thanks in advance.I was at Samya last two New Years in a row. I checked out of my hotel and went to the club for the overnight party. Club opened at 13:00 on December 31st. The line up was getting stronger by 17:00. Lots of 7-9 girls, some new comers, some veterans, some girls from the sister club Mondial. You get a free pass to Mondial for January 1st. Samya is closed January 1st. I did 5 rooms. Of course after 22:00 the place is packed. Getting harder to get girls but not entirely impossible. 30-40 minutes waiting time for the key. I managed 5 rooms in a stretch of 8 hours, had a nice time, no regrets.
My only glitch was I parked too close to Samya inner parking lot where massive fireworks were staged for the New Year's. My car was an ugly site when I came out of the club at 5 in the morning. The ashes were all over. Black soot on a white car LOL. On my way to Frankfurt had to stop by an automated car wash at the gas station. That took care of the problem. What saved me was the cold night and the car covered by a thick layer of frost. Otherwise brand new Opel grand land x would've needed a full paint job LOL.
A question for the more experienced who have attended New Year parties.
Of course with the current situation this could be a hypothetical question but I got nothing else to do but plan.
New years and New Years day, what are they like? Will there be a good line up or will it be down? Also Saturday is on the 2nd January, will this be like a normal Saturday.
If the clubs are rammed, is it a good idea to get there earlier than you usually would.
I am aware lots of girls return home around New Year but when exactly? Do they stick around for the 3 dates mentioned above.
My plan is to arrive Thursday 31st December and leave Monday 4th January.
Hoping everything will be back to normal so it will actually happen.
Thanks in advance.When open, Sylvester party are usually gay party with few girls asking for more expensive, except at Globe but with entry increased to 170 but not anymore what it was for party. Party are usually to avoid if can go on other days. From Christmas to after 15 January, not best time for castings, like around Orthodox Easter and August.
ExpatLover
07-30-20, 06:33
Reply EL: if the things are like in the past decade, worst time to visit a club, a lot of girls are out from 15 of December to 15 of January at least, all the remaining girls are over pricing and also over fucked so 0 pleasure for me.
Alessandro527
07-30-20, 13:40
A question for the more experienced who have attended New Year parties.
Of course with the current situation this could be a hypothetical question but I got nothing else to do but plan.
New years and New Years day, what are they like? Will there be a good line up or will it be down? Also Saturday is on the 2nd January, will this be like a normal Saturday.
If the clubs are rammed, is it a good idea to get there earlier than you usually would.
I am aware lots of girls return home around New Year but when exactly? Do they stick around for the 3 dates mentioned above.
My plan is to arrive Thursday 31st December and leave Monday 4th January.
Hoping everything will be back to normal so it will actually happen.
Thanks in advance.It will not be as you expect. Normal day just more noisy and maybe more girls (not necessary stunners) , more smoke and more fake happiness. If you have nothing better to do with friends and family OK but I am afraid you will be disappointed.
It will not be as you expect. Normal day just more noisy and maybe more girls (not necessary stunners) , more smoke and more fake happiness. If you have nothing better to do with friends and family OK but I am afraid you will be disappointed.Happiness is usually in the eyes of the beholder.
So if you arrive happy and are not diluted by FKKs before, I am sure it will bring happiness to most people, LOL.
Sorry here is the correct link:http://ma.lumiere.rouge.blogs.liberation.fr/2020/06/25/le-rapport-devaluation-de-la-loi-2016-est-enfin-rendu-public/.
Alessandro527
07-31-20, 17:41
Happiness is usually in the eyes of the beholder.
So if you arrive happy and are not diluted by FKKs before, I am sure it will bring happiness to most people, LOL.I have seen many sad faces in FKK land. Both men and girls. But especially on days like Christmas and New Years eve when you are supposed to be with your beloved in a warm house, I can find it normal to see more miserable faces in dark and smokey FKK expecting to find happiness from Romanian prostitutes.
I have seen many sad faces in FKK land. Both men and girls. But especially on days like Christmas and New Years eve when you are supposed to be with your beloved in a warm house, I can find it normal to see more miserable faces in dark and smokey FKK expecting to find happiness from Romanian prostitutes.'Supposed to. That is the key word. I know plenty of people not looking forward to the celebration along with their family 'in a warm house'. To those people, perhaps an FKK is a good substitute?
These are societally induced norms based on Christian culture too. And not everyone is even a Christian.
I have seen many sad faces in FKK land. Both men and girls. But especially on days like Christmas and New Years eve when you are supposed to be with your beloved in a warm house, I can find it normal to see more miserable faces in dark and smokey FKK expecting to find happiness from Romanian prostitutes.I think what Pistons meant was that happiness is point of view, meaning some guys prefer to be in FKK fucking young beauties than be with aged wife with annoying kids running around at home.
Personally, I never been to FKK for new year eve party or Christmas, but I actually would prefer to spend Christmas or new year eve in FKK than spending it in let say some ski resort or beach resort or at some friends party watching fire work or waiting till the year to change or talk some BS diplomatic friendly chat with some new friends you may meet at party. More I grow older, more I begin to know myself and there is nothing I enjoy in life than good sex with new beautiful young girls one after another.
Having said that, I just never went to FKK during Christmas or new year because I doubt there is a young beautiful girls in line up during these period at FKK? I think this is the original questioner originally wanted to ask. And you are right, there might be sad faces on the side of girls, for mongers, it may depend, if I am there and if there is young beautiful girls, I would be happy monger.
I wonder if stunner level girls stay over during that time of the year. If so, it is good time to go, I do not like new year period, most of things are closed and things are kinda slow, so spending it in FKK is not bad idea.
'Supposed to. That is the key word. I know plenty of people not looking forward to the celebration along with their family 'in a warm house'. To those people, perhaps an FKK is a good substitute?
These are societally induced norms based on Christian culture too. And not everyone is even a Christian.Those who are most religious are the ones who are molesting little children, so it shows something about human nature.
At least we monger are seriously honest about who we are, I love beautiful young girls pussy and assholes, I love it LOL!
I love being hentai and like Puff Daddy said in 90's I ain't stopping because I can't stop LOL! Or pringle ad, once you pop, you can't stop LOL!
Who the hell want to watch fire works and spend new year in beach resort or ski resort, I prefer watching my penis shooting white milky sperm into young beautiful girls mouth at the very moment of new year and I call that real happy new year LOL!
I have also not yet tried a Christmas at an FKK, but I did once spend a Christmas in Thailand. And even though all the smiles in the land of smiles are fake, I certainly enjoyed it just as much as in a warm house with snow outside. Even if I did not indulge in p6 that time. I saw plenty of war veterans who did. And they certainly seemed happy even if I cannot read minds.
Those who are most religious are the ones who are molesting little children, so it shows something about human nature.
At least we monger are seriously honest about who we are, I love beautiful young girls pussy and assholes, I love it LOL!
I love being hentai and like Puff Daddy said in 90's I ain't stopping because I can't stop LOL! Or pringle ad, once you pop, you can't stop LOL!
Who the hell want to watch fire works and spend new year in beach resort or ski resort, I prefer watching my penis shooting white milky sperm into young beautiful girls mouth at the very moment of new year and I call that real happy new year LOL!I much prefer to ski and not only for Christmas or new year and also to bicycle climb my most climby mountains, than brothels or escorts. All my favorites know they can t compete. Most of best girls return to family for Christmas, new year and orthodox Easter, so, second ranking girls for more expensive for Sylvester and gay party, over crowded with guys, when much less girls than usual. These 3 times are not best in FKK land.
I have also not yet tried a Christmas at an FKK, but I did once spend a Christmas in Thailand. And even though all the smiles in the land of smiles are fake, I certainly enjoyed it just as much as in a warm house with snow outside. Even if I did not indulge in p6 that time. I saw plenty of war veterans who did. And they certainly seemed happy even if I cannot read minds.No worry Pistons, there is nothing wrong in putting our face between ass crack of beautiful young girls and licking her assholes, we are in the right crack and therefore, on the right path of life LOL!
I much prefer to ski and not only for Christmas or new year and also to bicycle climb my most climby mountains, than brothels or escorts. All my favorites know they can t compete. Most of best girls return to family for Christmas, new year and orthodox Easter, so, second ranking girls for more expensive for Sylvester and gay party, over crowded with guys, when much less girls than usual. These 3 times are not best in FKK land.In right set up, it is spiritual to do so. Never done new year or Christmas brothel yet, but I may give it a try one day, but you telling me there are no good girls in those days make me stop going.
Usually, I do not like doing things in holiday season because it is full of people everywhere.
With all your climbing and skiing, you need audi quatro as you have it, or some rally cars like evo or wrx sti.
No worry Pistons, there is nothing wrong in putting our face between ass crack of beautiful young girls and licking her assholes, we are in the right crack and therefore, on the right path of life LOL!
Very true, we only live once. We will never know in a few years' time, we might already be sitting on wheelchair, depending on the support of crutches. Live is too short not to enjoy.
ExpatLover
08-02-20, 17:01
EL: Licking the assholes of a prostitute not really my cup of tea, even for free.
I much prefer to ski and not only for Christmas or new year and also to bicycle climb my most climby mountains, than brothels or escorts. All my favorites know they can t compete. Most of best girls return to family for Christmas, new year and orthodox Easter, so, second ranking girls for more expensive for Sylvester and gay party, over crowded with guys, when much less girls than usual. These 3 times are not best in FKK land.Yeah, for the parts of the world I like to monger in Christmas, New Year's, and Easter week would be the absolute worst times to go. So for me, Christmas is the time to be with family, and New Year's is the time to be with friends. I don't do anything special for Easter usually, except wait for it to be over LOL!
EL: Licking the assholes of a prostitute not really my cup of tea, even for free.What about licking p*s*why??
Alessandro527
08-02-20, 21:26
EL: Licking the assholes of a prostitute not really my cup of tea, even for free.Nothing bad if you are preparing the asshole to put your dick inside.
As a matter of fact I think their assholes are cleaner than normal girls.
BigBuddy69
08-02-20, 22:35
What about licking p*s*why??There is no sht in a pssy. Not exactly the same thing.
Very true, we only live once. We will never know in a few years' time, we might already be sitting on wheelchair, depending on the support of crutches. Live is too short not to enjoy.Yeah, I had many friends who already left this world and when I turned 30, it accelerated, so my stance toward life is to enjoy while I am here. I think many mongers are doing pretty good at that in sex department of life, which is really important part of life as a man. Never forget your teenage dream when you begin to have erection, we turned that dreams into reality LOL! We are living it.
Yeah, for the parts of the world I like to monger in Christmas, New Year's, and Easter week would be the absolute worst times to go. So for me, Christmas is the time to be with family, and New Year's is the time to be with friends. I don't do anything special for Easter usually, except wait for it to be over LOL!I meant in FKK land, but anyway I never spent my holidays in brothels when I can go when I want, even a bit more difficult to be free from job enough since few months. I remember on 2016 when I arrived on Thursday evening after job and returned driving home in Monday to Tuesday night, when golden times with many beauties in FKK land. Since confined, I became more demanding when I was already maybe the most demanding for look and behavior, but I discovered some good new girls, 2 wow aura when I saw only 5 with these 2 since I started, unfortunately some did' t stay because of bad business at Freubad or Amesia. I saw Globe empty on a Friday at 10 pm, Wellcum empty on a Sunday at 9 pm, when no big competition because only few clubs working. But at the moment, between problems with German cars, weather with rain in high altitude, very cold for big thermic shock in heart, job which is complicated, tough to organize my holidays climbing tour program, will probably have to cancel Summer ski again, but I will work hard to try to succeed my climbing. Brothels will be for restaurant, hotel and to recover.
As a matter of fact I think their assholes are cleaner than normal girls.This is true. Covid has pushed me back into the realm of civilian girls so I've had to endure some non-pro nether regions. Poor shave jobs and pussies that were not washed just 15 minutes prior to sex has well, left some bad taste in my mouth, literally.
There is no sht in a pssy. Not exactly the same thing.
Love that, I also love licking p*ssy, LOL.
I think those who are prepating to lick butthole have asked the girl to take a shower and clean that bit well to make sure that there is no shit left over. Similarly to what you have seen in the many porn movies.
Another way to check it is to smell that part first to ensure there is not any shit alike smell before licking it.
Love that, I also love licking p*ssy, LOL.
I think those who are prepating to lick butthole have asked the girl to take a shower and clean that bit well to make sure that there is no shit left over. Similarly to what you have seen in the many porn movies.
Another way to check it is to smell that part first to ensure there is not any shit alike smell before licking it.I have been licking and deep french kissing beautiful girls assholes around world since I was 17 years old, I never asked her to take shower before, they can if they want, but I never ask, I just taste on that corn holes de la young beautiful girls around world right away, it is my appetizer, man course and desert and so far, I never had brown thing on any of the girls ass holes or it smelt funny. I think most of prostitutes clean themselves well before they see you because they know they are going to have sex.
Only condition I have for any prostitute is that I always go first as first customer usually. This is the only thing I care.
There is no sht in a pssy. Not exactly the same thing.One is predator looking, and another one is brown colored corn holes looking, pick one and live LOL!
Nothing bad if you are preparing the asshole to put your dick inside.
As a matter of fact I think their assholes are cleaner than normal girls.Their assholes has been cleaned prior to be licked by me in FKK, that is really a good thing, but some mongers prefer to taste something and even eat some excrement. That is not my thing though. I just like to DFK assholes of young beautiful girls.
Me and assholes of young beautiful girls, it bring something out of me LOL! I consider it to be very nutritious for my soul LOL.
This is true. Covid has pushed me back into the realm of civilian girls so I've had to endure some non-pro nether regions. Poor shave jobs and pussies that were not washed just 15 minutes prior to sex has well, left some bad taste in my mouth, literally.Very true. Smelly cunts and buttholes are definitely issues when it comes to non pro girls as you put it. I use sugar babes in my home city and when on the road in the US and pussylicking tends to happen only half the time at best. It is strange but the cleanest, tastiest pussy I ever had was a 19 year old babe who was not even into licking that much; but she tasted so sweet and clean and juicy, I kept lapping her up for nearly an hour. But there were also girls who smelled like shit and the smell was overpowering especially when doing doggie; and it was such a turnoff that I quickly changed positions into mish and buried my head in her hair (which did smell great) while fucking away to finish fast. That was that with that one, sayonara baby.
A few non pro girls are so bad, they smell not so great even after we take a shower together -- which is something I insist with quite a few. I don't know what it is with them. They look like angels but cunts smell like rotten fish. Yucky. Do they not clean it ever? There was a girl who otherwise was so good for me and I kept seeing her for several meets. Even when I scrubbed her thoroughly with my soapy fingers in the pre-sex shower deep inside pussy and butt hole, not once but 4 to 5 cycles of rinse / soap deep inside / rinse / repeats, she still did not smell nice. Not enough to lick her down there anyway. Which was a crying shame because she had a really good looking pussy, clean shaven and smooth and not droopy massive lips which to me are a turnoff, and very tight. And she was compliant. She never objected once when I was scrubbing her so deep and for so long, as if she was a stained bathroom tile. The good news was that her mouth was clean and profuse DFK kissing made up for lack of pussy licking.
Doesn't covid make you lose sense of smell? That would come in handy with this girl, LOL.
I wonder if there are any guys who actually dig smelly cunts. I would not be surprised if there are a few. "ooh, that pussy was so stinky, it turned me on so much, LOL".
Love that, I also love licking p*ssy, LOL.
I think those who are prepating to lick butthole have asked the girl to take a shower and clean that bit well to make sure that there is no shit left over. Similarly to what you have seen in the many porn movies.
Another way to check it is to smell that part first to ensure there is not any shit alike smell before licking it.When some don't seem able to feel difference between porn fake moanings and real orgasms when girls don t make any noise until on the edge, because they feel what will happen and just wait for, sometimes participating rubbing on tongue or telling for their spots, because they want pleasure, but when some give you their juice or honey, some squirting in your face: mouth, nose, eyes, but violent orgasm sometimes make period arriving earlier than girl was waiting and then you play Hanibal Lecter for bloody face, girl usually screaming and apologizing when seeing your face before You understand. Got this bloody experience at least 5 times in brothels. As I explain to girls, just natural like with real girlfriend. In my country, you don't say to your beloved girlfriend she is dirty when she gets period, some get pain but some are very hot for sex under period.
.............I wonder if there are any guys who actually dig smelly cunts. I would not be surprised if there are a few. "ooh, that pussy was so stinky, it turned me on so much, LOL".I never go down on a girl if there is a scent down there, not even the slightest and then before I do I apply an ample amount of wet wipes which I always have handy. BTW FKK girls have the least smelly pussies. I am very cautious before going down on Asians and Latin Americans.
I have been licking and deep french kissing beautiful girls assholes around world since I was 17 years old, I never asked her to take shower before, they can if they want, but I never ask, I just taste on that corn holes de la young beautiful girls around world right away, it is my appetizer, man course and desert and so far, I never had brown thing on any of the girls ass holes or it smelt funny. I think most of prostitutes clean themselves well before they see you because they know they are going to have sex.
Only condition I have for any prostitute is that I always go first as first customer usually. This is the only thing I care.Lucky you.
Only condition I have for any prostitute is that I always go first as first customer usually. This is the only thing I care.What do you do in FKKs? Wait at the front door and have sex when they first come in? The night group comes in by say 9 PM, what will you do after the first night girl? Will you still have sex at 1 AM, 2 AM. 4 AM? By then, every WG has fucked a dozen guys for that day.
BTW, I actually don't see that much difference in being the first fuck of the day for the girl v being 3rd or 4th. It is all in your head. FKK girls do clean themselves pretty clean, at least clean enough as far as smell and scent goes as Turgid said. If anything, some FKK girls actually do have a slight musty smell for the first fuck. When I had sex with the same girls on the following day but as the 3rd or 4th room for her, she smelled better / just fine. I wonder if she still hadn't showered from the prior night and retained the nightly smells down there that became more intense after a sleep.
But Turgid is right. It is so much easier to lick pussies in FKK. They do a good job in that regard; I had less than 5% bad experiences. I am not into ass munching but many FKK girls don't have smelly buttholes either.
Sigh. Wish we could a vaccine soon. All this talk of **** tasting is making me hungry LOL.
I never go down on a girl if there is a scent down there, not even the slightest and then before I do I apply an ample amount of wet wipes which I always have handy. BTW FKK girls have the least smelly pussies. I am very cautious before going down on Asians and Latin Americans.
Some smeely cunts are caused by bacterias smells like rotten fish, highly related to personal hyegyne. Another reason could because they just have their periods.
Also it is not good if it is not well shaved as you might be licking urine if it is not washed well when they are pissing.
I do not think any mongers would like that smell. It is stinky and you might get infected by bacterias. But any mongers who get used to licking p*ussy will know the difference.
This is true. Covid has pushed me back into the realm of civilian girls so I've had to endure some non-pro nether regions. Poor shave jobs and pussies that were not washed just 15 minutes prior to sex has well, left some bad taste in my mouth, literally.I found at World the most perfect for body care and hygiene woman I ever met in my life, 29 yo Romanian, shaving before working when I usually don t shave to go to brothels, taking shower, putting cream on her skin to get baby skin, brushing her teeth, between rooms, she needed at least 15 mn, even she told me sometimes: After you, I can t work now, but not hurting her, having sometimes 3 rooms together on same day / night. When she returned home for 2015 Orthodox Easter, she told me when she would be back and I answered I would like to be her first like most often, but when she would not have sex for 1 month. On Saturday 26 April 2015, unfortunately I was late, only arriving at 8 pm, when she used to start around 5/6 pm, I was disappointed, I had diner in 5 minutes and went to her. Nice chat and she told me I would be her first, I didn't believe her, but I knew she always washed between rooms, and I could taste her natural taste, much tastier than soap or cream. This was a magic night with her.
With my best FKK girl, also Romanian, not 24 yet at this time, when she was perfect shaving when only few hair on pubic and legs, also perfect hygiene, and always coming to me to start her day for our first room of the day, I don t know what happened once, but when she was always so clean, she smelled very bad from ass even not dirty, so I took her gel and paper. I do like mother do to baby I told her, she smiled, no more problem, and great time once more when we had about 15 hours per month together for about 6 months when she was working.
ExpatLover
08-03-20, 19:02
EL: you are always telling us that you are a experienced mongers, but are you aware that 90% of the girls are still working during their period, most of the girls will not shower between customers. I know a lot of things behind the scene and I am still telling I will never lick the asshole of a prostitute.
Alessandro527
08-03-20, 19:10
I have been licking and deep french kissing beautiful girls assholes around world since I was 17 years old, I never asked her to take shower before, they can if they want, but I never ask, I just taste on that corn holes de la young beautiful girls around world right away, it is my appetizer, man course and desert and so far, I never had brown thing on any of the girls ass holes or it smelt funny. I think most of prostitutes clean themselves well before they see you because they know they are going to have sex.
Only condition I have for any prostitute is that I always go first as first customer usually. This is the only thing I care.What do you do that for? Afraid their pussy or asshole will smell dicks?
Their assholes has been cleaned prior to be licked by me in FKK, that is really a good thing, but some mongers prefer to taste something and even eat some excrement. That is not my thing though. I just like to DFK assholes of young beautiful girls.
Me and assholes of young beautiful girls, it bring something out of me LOL! I consider it to be very nutritious for my soul LOL.Why Mr. Ho you anal connoisseur you! Who would have thunk it LOL! There are all kinds of booty holes too. I like a Pinky. But we also got brownies and gray / greenies. Even a "black hole" (I don't munch those) hahaha! What I find is that most pro tutes who do anal prepare themselves for the deed. Clean themselves out and not eat for awhile LOL! You're much more likely to fall into a "mud hole" with a non-pro girl.
I found at World the most perfect for body care and hygiene woman I ever met in my life, 29 yo Romanian.....blah, blah Don't forget the great Madi at World back in these days. I had a special relationship with her, fucked with her good, real woman feeling, top experiences. She gave me her WA number. I am in contact with her now. If I want to risk going to high-infected Romania. Nein danke.
Why Mr. Ho you anal connoisseur you! Who would have thunk it LOL! There are all kinds of booty holes too. I like a Pinky. But we also got brownies and gray / greenies. Even a "black hole" (I don't munch those) hahaha! What I find is that most pro tutes who do anal prepare themselves for the deed. Clean themselves out and not eat for awhile LOL! You're much more likely to fall into a "mud hole" with a non-pro girl.Mud holes are the trap LOL Well, I like all kind of assholes as long as it is shaped and wrinkled in right way and most importantly, it belong to very beautiful young girl. I got two openings to DFK during my session LOL! This is what I call really getting two birds with one stone LOL! Whatta wonderful life LOL.
What do you do in FKKs? Wait at the front door and have sex when they first come in? The night group comes in by say 9 PM, what will you do after the first night girl? Will you still have sex at 1 AM, 2 AM. 4 AM? By then, every WG has fucked a dozen guys for that day.
BTW, I actually don't see that much difference in being the first fuck of the day for the girl v being 3rd or 4th. It is all in your head. FKK girls do clean themselves pretty clean, at least clean enough as far as smell and scent goes as Turgid said. If anything, some FKK girls actually do have a slight musty smell for the first fuck. When I had sex with the same girls on the following day but as the 3rd or 4th room for her, she smelled better / just fine. I wonder if she still hadn't showered from the prior night and retained the nightly smells down there that became more intense after a sleep.
But Turgid is right. It is so much easier to lick pussies in FKK. They do a good job in that regard; I had less than 5% bad experiences. I am not into ass munching but many FKK girls don't have smelly buttholes either.
Sigh. Wish we could a vaccine soon. All this talk of **** tasting is making me hungry LOL.Well, I am bit like a sharp shooter in FKK, special force sniper kinda thing.
What I do is I station my self in most sweet spot I can find for my need which is good visibility with good light, then I grab the girls upon entering the club or main bar.
However, girls shift vary and usually, let say palace FR, girls have some morning shift, the for night other girls begin to comes in at around 5, 6, 7, 8. Usually, I do first session at 5 PM. And another one at around 7 PM and last one if I find at 8 PM. I usually take two to three girls preferably per day, or some unlucky day just one girl, but I do two cums or even more. As for morning shift, mostly it is not good, but I still go around 11 till like 2 PM to see how it is and if it is good girl, I take it, if not I leave club and come back at 5 PM again. Each session, usually I do one hour sessions with 2 cums or some are just 30 min one cum GFE and now they begin charging me 100 euro per 30 min in up sell clubs like artemis and palace. On some lucky day, I still get BBBJ, DATY, fuck and some kiss for standard rate of 50 euro or 60 euro, but that is becoming rare and rare and it is 100 with full GFE sucking tongue session, so it is not too bad still. I hope it won't get worst. I got this sharp shooter spot for each clubs and I tend to stick to my station in club to hunt girls. For regulars I go with, I book via whatapp or day before personally during session. I also hear you can book via reception? I never done that, can you book girl for session via reception? Let say for globe, can you do that?
However, in nrw, lr and gt, I still got full GFE for 50 euro rate. But I am more FR and Berlin and zurich kinda monger than nrw. I found stunners in nrw, but I had to seek for it so hard there changing clubs in one day, I am very selective.
Lucky you.You can do that too. It is all out there.
EL: you are always telling us that you are a experienced mongers, but are you aware that 90% of the girls are still working during their period, most of the girls will not shower between customers. I know a lot of things behind the scene and I am still telling I will never lick the asshole of a prostitute.I recommend, I consider beautiful girls ass holes to be like neo sushi or neo tapas of some sort, but ass holes has to belong to and beautiful girls. Consider it as foie gras or truffle, eating beautiful girls will broaden your horizon and definitely enrich your soul.
BigBuddy69
08-04-20, 04:39
Don't forget the great Madi at World back in these days. I had a special relationship with her, fucked with her good, real woman feeling, top experiences. She gave me her WA number. I am in contact with her now.Did you DFK her booty hole like Ho and Cane do?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/world/europe/italy-coronavirus-prostitution-sex-work.html
Sigh. Wish we could a vaccine soon. All this talk of **** tasting is making me hungry LOL.
Eating p*ss* is part of your diet now ehhhh). So do I ....
Luckily because tasting this exotic meat has not been considered illegal in Germany. Also, it is still within the normal service so no extra is needed.
Hopefully the vaccine come this winter. As soons as I get the Jab, I am ready to jab the girls and eat variety of exotic meats again.
...... shaving before working when I usually don t shave to go to brothels,............Years ago I used to shave and scrupulously groom myself before visiting prostitutes. Then one day for some reason I went with a hooker with stubble on my face. The girl said she liked the feel of it on her skin. Since then I have not been so fastidious about grooming myself before my working girl date.
Don't forget the great Madi at World back in these days. I had a special relationship with her, fucked with her good, real woman feeling, top experiences. She gave me her WA number. I am in contact with her now. If I want to risk going to high-infected Romania. Nein danke.After big failure for private life, leading to prostitution at World, again big failure to return to Romania, no need to be graduated on March 2015, when she seemed so proud about. I loved when I was on so many days / nights and her return after 1 month on Saturday 26 April 2016 her only client, but I was sad a so beautiful woman got less business than many average looks, so often waiting sitting. But she lost her chic for money, like some others. Wish her all the best, at 35 now. But I had great Lena. Lat at PSR and multi orgasmic Marina. Lat Sharks who were 37.
The Senate of city Berlin has adopted a phased measure of reopening sex industry in Berlin. From August 8, 2020, sexual services without sexual intercourse will be allowed again. From September 1st, sexual services with sexual intercourse should also be permitted again under strict conditions. But I am not sure this measure also allows the FKK clubs in Berlin like Artemis to reopen.
https://www.berlin.de/rbmskzl/aktuelles/pressemitteilungen/2020/pressemitteilung.969752.php
Sebastiane
08-04-20, 22:52
It is good to hear that Berlin is going to reopen for sex work soon in September. Once it opens I'm sure other States will follow suit soon after.
As for the discussion about eating arschlochs of beautiful FKK girls it is always one of the great pleasures in life! I like eating ass even more than eating muschi! That's why I love 69 so much. Eat their muschi first then probe your tongue inside their butthole once they get turned on and relax.
Mady was fantastic and I had a memorable session with her in Oase.
Did you DFK her booty hole like Ho and Cane do?I think Mr cane like to drill the corn holes, not DFK them.
Me, I like DFK and get DFK on anal, but anal sex. I like it, but it is not something that really turn me on that much. I do it though after fucking her few times normally. You know just to spice up things.
It is good to hear that Berlin is going to reopen for sex work soon in September. Once it opens I'm sure other States will follow suit soon after.
As for the discussion about eating arschlochs of beautiful FKK girls it is always one of the great pleasures in life! I like eating ass even more than eating muschi! That's why I love 69 so much. Eat their muschi first then probe your tongue inside their butthole once they get turned on and relax.
Mady was fantastic and I had a memorable session with her in Oase.Moisturize it mister LOL!
It is good to hear that Berlin is going to reopen for sex work soon in September. Once it opens I'm sure other States will follow suit soon after.
As for the discussion about eating arschlochs of beautiful FKK girls it is always one of the great pleasures in life! I like eating ass even more than eating muschi! That's why I love 69 so much. Eat their muschi first then probe your tongue inside their butthole once they get turned on and relax.
Mady was fantastic and I had a memorable session with her in Oase.Not same one, so many Mady, Madi, Madelina, Madalina in brothels. Your Mady with silicon ex History Basel Liestal. Madi World even when she had no business, was not able to move to Oase or Sharks, too far for her.
HammerTime96
08-05-20, 09:36
The Senate of city Berlin has adopted a phased measure of reopening sex industry in Berlin. From August 8, 2020, sexual services without sexual intercourse will be allowed again. From September 1st, sexual services with sexual intercourse should also be permitted again under strict conditions. But I am not sure this measure also allows the FKK clubs in Berlin like Artemis to reopen.
https://www.berlin.de/rbmskzl/aktuelles/pressemitteilungen/2020/pressemitteilung.969752.phpLet's hope this is true, but I remember that Rheinland Pfalz was planning to reopen brothels on June 10th, only to reverse their unilateral decision under massive pressure from the federal government.
https://corona.rlp.de/de/aktuelles/detail/news/News/detail/keine-oeffnung-von-bordellen-oder-anderen-prostitutionsbetrieben-ab-dem-10-juni-1/
With each and every day we get closer to temperatures dropping and the start of the next flu season, the smaller the chances of any FKK clubs reopening.
For 2020, Germany missed the time window IMHO.
It is good to hear that Berlin is going to reopen for sex work soon in September. Once it opens I'm sure other States will follow suit soon after.
As for the discussion about eating arschlochs of beautiful FKK girls it is always one of the great pleasures in life! I like eating ass even more than eating muschi! That's why I love 69 so much. Eat their muschi first then probe your tongue inside their butthole once they get turned on and relax.
Mady was fantastic and I had a memorable session with her in Oase.I am partivually good in eating and licking "muschi". In a few occasion I mange tomke the girls come and they are thanking me for my skills.
Alessandro527
08-05-20, 16:35
The Senate of city Berlin has adopted a phased measure of reopening sex industry in Berlin. From August 8, 2020, sexual services without sexual intercourse will be allowed again. From September 1st, sexual services with sexual intercourse should also be permitted again under strict conditions. But I am not sure this measure also allows the FKK clubs in Berlin like Artemis to reopen.
https://www.berlin.de/rbmskzl/aktuelles/pressemitteilungen/2020/pressemitteilung.969752.phpIs there a list of the strict conditions?
As for the discussion about eating arschlochs of beautiful FKK girls it is always one of the great pleasures in life! I like eating ass even more than eating muschi! That's why I love 69 so much. Eat their muschi first then probe your tongue inside their butthole once they get turned on and relax.What is Mr. Ho talking about? What's he been smoking? That damn Mary Jane again! I like to munch it before I butt fuck it, and 69 is the perfect position from which to do the deed! Slurp all of the "clam" you want, then inspect and tongue that arsehole next! That's right. I'm an "anal connoisseur" all the way! Yes sir I am!
Years ago I used to shave and scrupulously groom myself before visiting prostitutes. Then one day for some reason I went with a hooker with stubble on my face. The girl said she liked the feel of it on her skin. Since then I have not been so fastidious about grooming myself before my working girl date.I don't shave to go to brothels. Even best for me would be to go with only 1 perfect girl, meaning beauty, elegance and chic, but my visits are not my wedding. I was never asked to go to shower or refused to kiss in bed, and I don t know why but girls like to touch my hair and face, what I don t like so much. But about girls, soft, well shaved skin is delightful to kiss. Few hair on pubic can be super sexy when same color than on head. Girls body care is very important for me. Had Russian escort from Moscow, Dana rdv4 u, exceptional extreme GFE, very fresh beauty and in bed, but shaving was not on my standard to run to return, even she kissed me all along, jumping on bed like a little girl when I spoke to her in Russian, saying many times thank You for orgasms, even she couldn't breathe when it was so intense. Keeping on kissing over time. Maybe agency manager was not so happy about over time.
What is Mr. Ho talking about? What's he been smoking? That damn Mary Jane again! I like to munch it before I butt fuck it, and 69 is the perfect position from which to do the deed! Slurp all of the "clam" you want, then inspect and tongue that arsehole next! That's right. I'm an "anal connoisseur" all the way! Yes sir I am!Oh so you are one of those type too huh? LOL.
That how you got that czech blonde Marketa's poo poo hole in Artemis LOL! Ah, she is missed, it was good old golden line up days of Artemis.
It was back again little bit last summer though. Not as good, but it is back.
Let's hope this is true, but I remember that Rheinland Pfalz was planning to reopen brothels on June 10th, only to reverse their unilateral decision under massive pressure from the federal government.
https://corona.rlp.de/de/aktuelles/detail/news/News/detail/keine-oeffnung-von-bordellen-oder-anderen-prostitutionsbetrieben-ab-dem-10-juni-1/
With each and every day we get closer to temperatures dropping and the start of the next flu season, the smaller the chances of any FKK clubs reopening.
For 2020, Germany missed the time window IMHO.Yes Finca Erotica, managed by Hells, but they cancelled opening, they will wait more for the washing machine like at World.
ExpatLover
08-06-20, 07:33
I don't shave to go to brothels. Even best for me would be to go with only 1 perfect girl, meaning beauty, elegance and chic, but my visits are not my wedding. I was never asked to go to shower or refused to kiss in bed, and I don t know why but girls like to touch my hair and face, what I don t like so much. But about girls, soft, well shaved skin is delightful to kiss. Few hair on pubic can be super sexy when same color than on head. Girls body care is very important for me. Had Russian escort from Moscow, Dana rdv4 you, exceptional extreme GFE, very fresh beauty and in bed, but shaving was not on my standard to run to return, even she kissed me all along, jumping on bed like a little girl when I spoke to her in Russian, saying many times thank You for orgasms, even she couldn't breathe when it was so intense. Keeping on kissing over time. Maybe agency manager was not so happy about over time.EL: next time tell all those girls that you have no money, I am sure they will go wish you just to orgasm let us be a little bit realistic.
Oh so you are one of those type too huh? LOL.
That how you got that czech blonde Marketa's poo poo hole in Artemis LOL! Ah, she is missed, it was good old golden line up days of Artemis.
It was back again little bit last summer though. Not as good, but it is back.Yes, Marketa was a star.
How was Artemis back last summer by the way?
I saw three Bulgarian ex Oceans girls: Raissa, Emmanuela and Maggie had moved to Artemis. But aside from those three, was there any new top girls?
It is good to hear that Berlin is going to reopen for sex work soon in September. Once it opens I'm sure other States will follow suit soon after.
As for the discussion about eating arschlochs of beautiful FKK girls it is always one of the great pleasures in life! I like eating ass even more than eating muschi! That's why I love 69 so much. Eat their muschi first then probe your tongue inside their butthole once they get turned on and relax.
Mady was fantastic and I had a memorable session with her in Oase.I have done a survey and have concluded that girls generally prefer to have their pussies munched on rather than their arschlochs as you put it; but there is a minority who absolutely go crazy over it. Recently a girl held my head and forced it more towards her ass while my tongue was in there forcing my tongue further in. I didn't like that as I don't like my tongue going too deep inside.
With respect to anal, I like to do that to girls with attitude, I use it as a rod of correction so to speak.
MaxSquatter
08-06-20, 15:58
You're right on the polling. They are less into their asses licked but some just love it. Which girl / club did that to your head? That is pretty hot.
I have done a survey and have concluded that girls generally prefer to have their pussies munched on rather than their arschlochs as you put it; but there is a minority who absolutely go crazy over it. Recently a girl held my head and forced it more towards her ass while my tongue was in there forcing my tongue further in. I didn't like that as I don't like my tongue going too deep inside.
With respect to anal, I like to do that to girls with attitude, I use it as a rod of correction so to speak.
Is there a list of the strict conditions?My guess is that a list of the conditions is similiar with hygiene concept from Professional association for sex workers (BesD) and main conditions would be 1) collecting personal info of mongers and 2) wearing masks during sex. The following is the hygiene concept from BesD:
https://berufsverband-sexarbeit.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/200519_BesD-Hygienekonzept-1.pdf
Alessandro527
08-06-20, 16:32
My guess is that a list of the conditions is similiar with hygiene concept from Professional association for sex workers (BesD) and main conditions would be 1) collecting personal info of mongers and 2) wearing masks during sex. The following is the hygiene concept from BesD:
https://berufsverband-sexarbeit.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/200519_BesD-Hygienekonzept-1.pdf.If it is kinky kind mask like Eyes wide shut film I have no problem.
Well collecting info will be a problem. No one will want to show personal ID or give data.
MaxSquatter
08-06-20, 16:58
"Mouth coverings during sex" haha that's not going to be successful.
My guess is that a list of the conditions is similiar with hygiene concept from Professional association for sex workers (BesD) and main conditions would be 1) collecting personal info of mongers and 2) wearing masks during sex. The following is the hygiene concept from BesD:
https://berufsverband-sexarbeit.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/200519_BesD-Hygienekonzept-1.pdf
The Senate of city Berlin has adopted a phased measure of reopening sex industry in Berlin. From August 8, 2020, sexual services without sexual intercourse will be allowed again. From September 1st, sexual services with sexual intercourse should also be permitted again under strict conditions. But I am not sure this measure also allows the FKK clubs in Berlin like Artemis to reopen.
https://www.berlin.de/rbmskzl/aktuelles/pressemitteilungen/2020/pressemitteilung.969752.phpArtemis declares on website and Facebook it will open 1st July.
Artemis declares on website and Facebook it will open 1st July.How is this even possible? Do they have a skateboard like in Back to the Future? Or Forward to the Past?
"Mouth coverings during sex" haha that's not going to be successful.At 6 ens NL, have to put on a mask.
How is this even possible? Do they have a skateboard like in Back to the Future? Or Forward to the Past?My fault!
1st September.
At 6 ens NL, have to put on a mask.When you approach girls from now on in FKK, the first question will be, can you take of your mask, so I can see your face? Then girls reaction would be, "sure, it will be extra 20 euro" LOL!
Or you see her face under the mask and you will be like, OK miss, I have to go and eat first, so see you later alligator LOL!
Smoke Light
08-07-20, 03:33
You're right on the polling. They are less into their asses licked but some just love it. Which girl / club did that to your head? That is pretty hot.Katya GT ex Samya and Carla Samya. Katya would stand on her knees with her ass up and masturbate herself to orgasm. Carla asked occasionally to lick her ass but switch back to pussy for her climax. Both very sweet and sensual girls. Remembering good things makes me scream of desperation as I see no ending to the current misery.
When you approach girls from now on in FKK, the first question will be, can you take of your mask, so I can see your face? Then girls reaction would be, "sure, it will be extra 20 euro" LOL!
Or you see her face under the mask and you will be like, OK miss, I have to go and eat first, so see you later alligator LOL!6 ens staff is nice, they try to stay open, but kind of swingers atmosphere. When difficult for me to find a pretty face at Globe or Wellcum or GT Bruggen before, mask is just killing desire for me. Even more expensive, but I will keep on in Switzerland or Austria where beauties are less expensive for me than paying for girls I would not go for free in real life. Had only quite good room at 6 ens NL but never repeated because never saw her again as elegant as on this time, but saw many girls with worst look than where they worked before. Not at all same level than YY for casting.
You're right on the polling. They are less into their asses licked but some just love it. Which girl / club did that to your head? That is pretty hot.It was not in Germany, it was an Indian girl in Trinidad when I was passing through last year. I can't recall an FKK girl ever refusing me ass licking but I have no recollection of girls going wild over it. In February Jenna from Turkey went absolutely bonkers during DATY in one of my Sharks visits; she rammed my head further towards her vagina while I was indulging, I think I reported it then in the Sharks thread.
It was not in Germany, it was an Indian girl in Trinidad when I was passing through last year. I can't recall an FKK girl ever refusing me ass licking but I have no recollection of girls going wild over it. In February Jenna from Turkey went absolutely bonkers during DATY in one of my Sharks visits; she rammed my head further towards her vagina while I was indulging, I think I reported it then in the Sharks thread.Gina at Palace one time would not let me lick her butt hole. She said one time she got a pussy infection, so she would not allow it. Why it's always a good idea to get all of the "clam" you want first before going for the "chocolate starfish". Never a good idea to go back and forth, or to go ass to mouth of pussy without changing the condom or washing the dick off first. Why I was surprised by a Brazilian girl who I was butt fucking who asked me to go straight to her pussy next.
Yes, Marketa was a star.
How was Artemis back last summer by the way?
I saw three Bulgarian ex Oceans girls: Raissa, Emmanuela and Maggie had moved to Artemis. But aside from those three, was there any new top girls?Yes she was, she be missed as well as golden era line up of Artemis back in the day. It was amazing era.
Artemis had good line up last summer and I enjoyed my stay there. It is back at it when I was there from stand point of lineup.
But now it is closed, so let see how it goes after reopening.
6 ens staff is nice, they try to stay open, but kind of swingers atmosphere. When difficult for me to find a pretty face at Globe or Wellcum or GT Bruggen before, mask is just killing desire for me. Even more expensive, but I will keep on in Switzerland or Austria where beauties are less expensive for me than paying for girls I would not go for free in real life. Had only quite good room at 6 ens NL but never repeated because never saw her again as elegant as on this time, but saw many girls with worst look than where they worked before. Not at all same level than YY for casting.Never made it to YY, but had ex YY girl like Linda, so I guess there are good girls to be found in YY? But it is bit further out for me.
However, I will stick to palace FR, Artemis and globe from now on I think. NRW is cheaper and better service, but line up is bit risky for me even though I managed to find a stunner each time. I always loved much cheaper CIM option.
Kamsutra69
08-08-20, 04:56
My survey says that they don't like it if it comes up as a surprise. They start spinning about whether the hole is clean enough to be licked and whether the licking has been negotiated in the price agreed. Tell them before and they will clean it up good for you in the small break they take before taking you to the room. The only reason girls (FKK or otherwise) don't prefer their arschlochs licked is because of hygiene concerns. As per my survey, anyways. Inform them before (to the FKK girls to begin with) and they will "like" it. As they "like" everything else you do to them.
Safe mongering!
I have done a survey and have concluded that girls generally prefer to have their pussies munched on rather than their arschlochs as you put it; but there is a minority who absolutely go crazy over it. Recently a girl held my head and forced it more towards her ass while my tongue was in there forcing my tongue further in. I didn't like that as I don't like my tongue going too deep inside.
With respect to anal, I like to do that to girls with attitude, I use it as a rod of correction so to speak.
Gina at Palace one time would not let me lick her butt hole. She said one time she got a pussy infection, so she would not allow it. Why it's always a good idea to get all of the "clam" you want first before going for the "chocolate starfish". Never a good idea to go back and forth, or to go ass to mouth of pussy without changing the condom or washing the dick off first. Why I was surprised by a Brazilian girl who I was butt fucking who asked me to go straight to her pussy next.Dr Cane, specialized in female butt holes LOL!
Well we Analists know what's up LOL!
It is something about that wrinkled, little holes with wrinkles around it made us so excited LOL!
Alessandro527
08-08-20, 07:33
Never made it to YY, but had ex YY girl like Linda, so I guess there are good girls to be found in YY? But it is bit further out for me.
However, I will stick to palace FR, Artemis and globe from now on I think. NRW is cheaper and better service, but line up is bit risky for me even though I managed to find a stunner each time. I always loved much cheaper CIM option.Globe seems to be a good choice, service always guaranteed but Artemis and palace? I went to Artemis 3 years ago and the service was much more bad than the past.
And palace? I couldn't even find one good looking girl and all that approached me wanted to upsell. I left after 1 hour and took the taxi for Sharks.
Never made it to YY, but had ex YY girl like Linda, so I guess there are good girls to be found in YY? But it is bit further out for me.
However, I will stick to palace FR, Artemis and globe from now on I think. NRW is cheaper and better service, but line up is bit risky for me even though I managed to find a stunner each time. I always loved much cheaper CIM option.Unfortunately, high level YY is closed and nothing about virus, when 6 ens is open. Had much prettier faces than Linda at YY, for 50/30. Some new Germans now at Globe, come from NRW or Artemis. German WGs need business they can t find in Germany where escorting don t pay much. Unfortunately, Globe is not anymore wow it was, but since reopening I still manage to find few beauties in few clubs opened, when I became more and more demanding, and adapt and make the job to make them will to please me back. Not much changed for me. Only Vienna is too far from Paris.
The Higher Administrative Court in German state Saarland has overturned the general ban on prostitution in the corona pandemic. On Thursday, the judges granted a brothel operator's urgent request against the general prohibition and the practice of prostitution as the court announced. With the resolution the general prostitution ban in Saarland was temporarily suspended. I don't know whether there is any FKK club in Saarland.
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/justiz-saarlouis-prostitution-im-saarland-unter-bedingungen-wieder-erlaubt-dpa.urn-newsml-dpa-com-20090101-200806-99-70711
The Higher Administrative Court in German state Saarland has overturned the general ban on prostitution in the corona pandemic. On Thursday, the judges granted a brothel operator's urgent request against the general prohibition and the practice of prostitution as the court announced. With the resolution the general prostitution ban in Saarland was temporarily suspended. I don't know whether there is any FKK club in Saarland.
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/justiz-saarlouis-prostitution-im-saarland-unter-bedingungen-wieder-erlaubt-dpa.urn-newsml-dpa-com-20090101-200806-99-70711Paradise Saarbruecken.
If that is the club in question, then they might appeal to judges in other states also, as that group also own Paradise Stuttgart in Baden Wurthemberg and Palace in Hessen (Frankfurt). As well as Mystic in Salzburg, Austria.
The Higher Administrative Court in German state Saarland has overturned the general ban on prostitution in the corona pandemic. On Thursday, the judges granted a brothel operator's urgent request against the general prohibition and the practice of prostitution as the court announced. With the resolution the general prostitution ban in Saarland was temporarily suspended. I don't know whether there is any FKK club in Saarland.
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/justiz-saarlouis-prostitution-im-saarland-unter-bedingungen-wieder-erlaubt-dpa.urn-newsml-dpa-com-20090101-200806-99-70711Higher administrative court seems to have higher understanding to mongers it seems LOL!
The Higher Administrative Court in German state Saarland has overturned the general ban on prostitution in the corona pandemic. On Thursday, the judges granted a brothel operator's urgent request against the general prohibition and the practice of prostitution as the court announced. With the resolution the general prostitution ban in Saarland was temporarily suspended. I don't know whether there is any FKK club in Saarland.
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/justiz-saarlouis-prostitution-im-saarland-unter-bedingungen-wieder-erlaubt-dpa.urn-newsml-dpa-com-20090101-200806-99-70711Of course, in and around Sarrebrucken.
BigBuddy69
08-08-20, 10:33
Prestige in Neunkirchen and Paradise in Saarbruck at least.
The Higher Administrative Court in German state Saarland has overturned the general ban on prostitution in the corona pandemic. On Thursday, the judges granted a brothel operator's urgent request against the general prohibition and the practice of prostitution as the court announced. With the resolution the general prostitution ban in Saarland was temporarily suspended. I don't know whether there is any FKK club in Saarland.
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/justiz-saarlouis-prostitution-im-saarland-unter-bedingungen-wieder-erlaubt-dpa.urn-newsml-dpa-com-20090101-200806-99-70711Now if only Hessen will follow suit.
The Higher Administrative Court in German state Saarland has overturned the general ban on prostitution in the corona pandemic. On Thursday, the judges granted a brothel operator's urgent request against the general prohibition and the practice of prostitution as the court announced. With the resolution the general prostitution ban in Saarland was temporarily suspended. I don't know whether there is any FKK club in Saarland.
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/justiz-saarlouis-prostitution-im-saarland-unter-bedingungen-wieder-erlaubt-dpa.urn-newsml-dpa-com-20090101-200806-99-70711FKK Paradise and FKK Venus are in Saarbrueken, but they still haven't announced reopening. FKK Prestige (Neunkirchen), however, has just announced they are open again, following this court decision! I hope it will be the first of many!
Oops sorry, my mistake, they are not open yet!
Never made it to YY, but had ex YY girl like Linda, so I guess there are good girls to be found in YY? But it is bit further out for me.
However, I will stick to palace FR, Artemis and globe from now on I think. NRW is cheaper and better service, but line up is bit risky for me even though I managed to find a stunner each time. I always loved much cheaper CIM option.Mr. Ho,
I don't for the life of me know why you won't put Oase into your rotation. It's one of the best clubs. I know clubs like Palace, Artemis, and Globe are relatively easy to get to once you're in town. But, Oase is also worth a trip. Don't be lazy. Put in a little extra effort to go to Oase starting mid to late afternoon into the evening. Oase is an absolute must-do club when I am in Frankfurt. Along with Palace, which I know a lot of mongers don't care for. Our tastes are similar. I urge you to give Oase more chances. But don't go too early in the day (although I have been rewarded in the past when I did).
Globe seems to be a good choice, service always guaranteed but Artemis and palace? I went to Artemis 3 years ago and the service was much more bad than the past.
And palace? I couldn't even find one good looking girl and all that approached me wanted to upsell. I left after 1 hour and took the taxi for Sharks.For Globe now, better to like silicon and not to be too demanding for face, and most of Globe girls are not anymore higher level in bed than in other clubs where can find more fresh behavior for love in bed.
Mr. Ho,
I don't for the life of me know why you won't put Oase into your rotation. It's one of the best clubs. I know clubs like Palace, Artemis, and Globe are relatively easy to get to once you're in town. But, Oase is also worth a trip. Don't be lazy. Put in a little extra effort to go to Oase starting mid to late afternoon into the evening. Oase is an absolute must-do club when I am in Frankfurt. Along with Palace, which I know a lot of mongers don't care for. Our tastes are similar. I urge you to give Oase more chances. But don't go too early in the day (although I have been rewarded in the past when I did).Right, next time I go to our beloved Frankfurt, I will make sure to go to Oase once again to give it another let say few chances to the club. The first time I went was fine, but I somehow felt not right there. However, in retrospect two girls I went with in Oase were real stunners. One excellent service, another was only lousy service I had in FKK actually. So maybe it is why the club kept me away. Also I did not like rooms in Oase.
For mind blowing excellent service, it always has been Artemis, palace, and globe for me. Perhaps I am too spoil with high service level and also the level of looks that my hurdle for satisfaction went too high, but I will give it another try for Oase as line up was good in retrospect.
On the same note, I still remember the train ride back from Oase into Frankfurt. You can see the whole city from window and these commuting moments and other moments during FKK trips are also memorable moments to cherish.
Talking about rooms, I never know why FKK make rooms so brothel like. I would prefer more modern simple room than those extravagant red light style rooms. Only thing I like with some FKK rooms are mirrors, so I get to see all angle of her while fucking her LOL.
For Globe now, better to like silicon and not to be too demanding for face, and most of Globe girls are not anymore higher level in bed than in other clubs where can find more fresh behavior for love in bed.I saw few reports in Globe thread too, but so far, I had amazing service experience in Globe. One was mind blowing and rimming was even free and also putting finger in her ass hardcore style was also free and also gagging along with DFK, fingering with three fingers, BBBJ of coruse, hardcore DFK etc. If I go with more girls in Globe maybe I may come across girls who provide lousy service, but so far, for me globe has served me good with amazing service.
Girls, it is not all stunner girls, but there are some level they seems to care to maintain with difficulty. Line up was almost like artemis back in early 2010's during their peak years. Some tattoo and plastic tits, but many girls are natural body with no tattoo. Thanks to Ingo's taste.
One thing I do like with globe is that new girls seems to keep on flowing into clubs every few days.
Globe seems to be a good choice, service always guaranteed but Artemis and palace? I went to Artemis 3 years ago and the service was much more bad than the past.
And palace? I couldn't even find one good looking girl and all that approached me wanted to upsell. I left after 1 hour and took the taxi for Sharks.I pay 150 euro per hour two cum if I can cum in both club and usually I get excellent or on some lucky day mind blowing service still. Some day when I want just 30 min, I pay 100 euro one cum. This is so since 2017, unfortunately. I do miss 50 euro 30 min or 1 hour 100 euro days. You still find sometimes, but this original prices are rare now.
I know both Artemis and palace are most up sell clubs, but I know my way around as I have been to both clubs long time,. So for me I had experiences of excellent service being provided there, but some were just mind blowing service.
Worst service I had was in Oase, but Oase I only went once, so I will give it another try. The girl did DFK etc, but just lightly and somehow it was not right. But that is only bad experience I had with service in FKK.
In general, I have good experience with service level of FKK. I just do not like this recent up sell especially after 2017 new law. It settle for 150 euro per hour two cum if I can or 100 euro per 30 min, but it is just annoying.
Nrw has no upsell even after 2017 except oceans.
I saw few reports in Globe thread too, but so far, I had amazing service experience in Globe. One was mind blowing and rimming was even free and also putting finger in her ass hardcore style was also free and also gagging along with DFK, fingering with three fingers, BBBJ of coruse, hardcore DFK etc. If I go with more girls in Globe maybe I may come across girls who provide lousy service, but so far, for me globe has served me good with amazing service.
Girls, it is not all stunner girls, but there are some level they seems to care to maintain with difficulty. Line up was almost like artemis back in early 2010's during their peak years. Some tattoo and plastic tits, but many girls are natural body with no tattoo. Thanks to Ingo's taste.
One thing I do like with globe is that new girls seems to keep on flowing into clubs every few days.Most of Globe looks now don't worth so expensive rate, like at Aphrodisia. Linda is average face for me, I look for prettier faces and get same level for love in bed in many other clubs, with more fresh girls and for less expensive. For everything, only facts count in brothels, and even without competition, Globe is more and more often empty.
Lucky Nuts
08-09-20, 03:24
On the same note, I still remember the train ride back from Oase into Frankfurt. If you are taking the train Mr. Ho maybe that's why you don't return. Oase is not an easy journey by train as I recall (transfer required) but is simple using their shuttle bus from the Frankfort HBF. It's was my favorite FKK of the few I visited nearly a year ago. But I didn't inspect rectums on those visits so your mileage may vary. I'll be back as soon as they allow us!
If you are taking the train Mr. Ho maybe that's why you don't return. Oase is not an easy journey by train as I recall (transfer required) but is simple using their shuttle bus from the Frankfort HBF. It's was my favorite FKK of the few I visited nearly a year ago. But I didn't inspect rectums on those visits so your mileage may vary. I'll be back as soon as they allow us!How much are these shuttle bus cost? And how can you book them?
Yes, I took train, but it was not that bad, and taxi from train station near Oase to oase was like 5 minutes ride, not even 5, maybe 3 minutes LOL.
Most of Globe looks now don't worth so expensive rate, like at Aphrodisia. Linda is average face for me, I look for prettier faces and get same level for love in bed in many other clubs, with more fresh girls and for less expensive. For everything, only facts count in brothels, and even without competition, Globe is more and more often empty.Well, I will keep on returning to Globe for time being. I liked it this Jan and Feb.
Globe, Artemis, Palace, and let see how Oase will turn out.
My favorite club is still Artemis by far if the line up are good as it once used to be. For me, it was heaven back then LOL.
Alessandro527
08-09-20, 07:15
If you are taking the train Mr. Ho maybe that's why you don't return. Oase is not an easy journey by train as I recall (transfer required) but is simple using their shuttle bus from the Frankfort HBF. It's was my favorite FKK of the few I visited nearly a year ago. But I didn't inspect rectums on those visits so your mileage may vary. I'll be back as soon as they allow us!Oase has always worked perfect for me and it is the second choice for Hessen after Sharks. As for the train transport you need to take the train from HBF to Friedrichsdorf and after a 10-15 euro taxi.
I prefer to take a taxi outside my hotel and go like king paying 10 euro more.
If you are taking the train Mr. Ho maybe that's why you don't return. Oase is not an easy journey by train as I recall (transfer required) but is simple using their shuttle bus from the Frankfort HBF. It's was my favorite FKK of the few I visited nearly a year ago. But I didn't inspect rectums on those visits so your mileage may vary. I'll be back as soon as they allow us!Yes Oase have shuttle to Frankfurt. Had really pretty girls on 2019 and really good in bed, better casting for me than Globe, but lost my yellow moody friend who came to sleep close to me. Also enjoyed to play football in the garden, entry 50 before 4 pm. Oase is not on top on early hours, with mostly long time girls.
Dr Cane, specialized in female butt holes LOL!
Well we Analists know what's up LOL!
It is something about that wrinkled, little holes with wrinkles around it made us so excited LOL!What about if while you are rimming and licking that "arschloch" she farts and also discharge a tiny yellow particles, LOL.
On the same note, I still remember the train ride back from Oase into Frankfurt. You can see the whole city from window and these commuting moments and other moments during FKK trips are also memorable moments to cherish.
If you are taking the train Mr. Ho maybe that's why you don't return. Oase is not an easy journey by train as I recall (transfer required) but is simple using their shuttle bus from the Frankfort HBF. It's was my favorite FKK of the few I visited nearly a year ago. But I didn't inspect rectums on those visits so your mileage may vary. I'll be back as soon as they allow us!
This guy shows step by step guide on how to reach FKK Oase by public trasnport from Frankfurt central station. I myself do not like the idea of renting a car in Germany.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i41IzKvEfo0
Their shuttle Bus info.
https://www.fkk-oase.de/shuttleservice_saunaclub_fkk-oase
This guy shows step by step guide on how to reach FKK Oase by public trasnport from Frankfurt central station. I myself do not like the idea of renting a car in Germany.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i41IzKvEfo0Me too, I use public transport and I am just fine with it, it is very do-able. But shuttle bus may serve me good as I stay near Frankfurt hb.
If you are taking the train Mr. Ho maybe that's why you don't return. Oase is not an easy journey by train as I recall (transfer required) but is simple using their shuttle bus from the Frankfort HBF. It's was my favorite FKK of the few I visited nearly a year ago. But I didn't inspect rectums on those visits so your mileage may vary. I'll be back as soon as they allow us!I always get good anal sex at Oase. Also, it's easy to get to by train (no transfer required). It's the getting back to your hotel that's the issue if you stay late after the train stops running. You'll need to take a taxi back if you don't have a car. Always worth it to me. I go to Oase at least twice on every visit to Frankfurt. Tutes don't need to upsell me much because I start out typically wanting an hour with anal. When I first started going to FKKs, I tried to stick to a max budget of 250 euros an hour for everything I wanted. I will still try for that, but depending on the club and the girl it's increasingly difficult to obtain. So, I'm willing to go up to 300 euros an hour for massage, BBBJ / CIM, pussy fuck, and butt sex. But that's my limit!
I always get good anal sex at Oase. Also, it's easy to get to by train (no transfer required). It's the getting back to your hotel that's the issue if you stay late after the train stops running. You'll need to take a taxi back if you don't have a car. Always worth it to me. I go to Oase at least twice on every visit to Frankfurt. Tutes don't need to upsell me much because I start out typically wanting an hour with anal. When I first started going to FKKs, I tried to stick to a max budget of 250 euros an hour for everything I wanted. I will still try for that, but depending on the club and the girl it's increasingly difficult to obtain. So, I'm willing to go up to 300 euros an hour for massage, BBBJ / CIM, pussy fuck, and butt sex. But that's my limit!One cum in one hour or two cum?
Now we can take the shuttle back from Oase to hbf. A guy below kindly put us the link.
One cum in one hour or two cum?
Now we can take the shuttle back from Oase to hbf. A guy below kindly put us the link.Minimum two nuts per hour. Sometimes three. Most girls I go with will let you cum as many times as you can. For me it's usually twice a session. Sometimes three.
Minimum two nuts per hour. Sometimes three. Most girls I go with will let you cum as many times as you can. For me it's usually twice a session. Sometimes three.Three is hardcore per hour. When I was younger, I was able to do three, but now two is max per hour. Yes Nuts, you got some nuts LOL!
Lucky Nuts
08-10-20, 03:58
How much are these shuttle bus cost? And how can you book them?It was 5 euro each way if I recall correctly. No need to book ahead just show up at the pickup point across the street from the Excelsior Hotel. When leaving the club be aware they do not pick up at the front door but instead at the far end of the driveway. When in Frankfurt I stay next to the HBF so for me the shuttle is "door to door" service and so cheap!
It was 5 euro each way if I recall correctly. No need to book ahead just show up at the pickup point across the street from the Excelsior Hotel. When leaving the club be aware they do not pick up at the front door but instead at the far end of the driveway. When in Frankfurt I stay next to the HBF so for me the shuttle is "door to door" service and so cheap!Alright man, that is cool price. I think I will use it more for the way back as first one is at noon, I already want to be at the club then.
ExpatLover
08-10-20, 04:57
EL: getting Anal is very easy in the FKK, I just stopped it, too many times had shit on my condom, smelling badly in the room mostly without window. You get why you pay for, most of the top stunner first of all will no do any extra even CIM, just because they don t need to make their living, second top girls know their value, they will not discount them self, enter a Mercedes garage and ask to get the same price as a Nissan car probably they will say no.
It was 5 euro each way if I recall correctly. No need to book ahead just show up at the pickup point across the street from the Excelsior Hotel. When leaving the club be aware they do not pick up at the front door but instead at the far end of the driveway. When in Frankfurt I stay next to the HBF so for me the shuttle is "door to door" service and so cheap!5 euro, with all the high charged price, at least they are kind enough to charge us only 5 euro for transportation LOL.
After all, they need people to come, so we can pay for other higher charged things they offer to us LOL.
EL: getting Anal is very easy in the FKK, I just stopped it, too many times had shit on my condom, smelling badly in the room mostly without window. You get why you pay for, most of the top stunner first of all will no do any extra even CIM, just because they don t need to make their living, second top girls know their value, they will not discount them self, enter a Mercedes garage and ask to get the same price as a Nissan car probably they will say no.Not at all easy, depend on your size. I remember on my first visit at Oase on June 2014, long time professional blond Melissa proposing me anal, but after few seconds, crying: You want to kill my ass. She is just not able. With Italian Anna at Wellcum on August 2016, preparing her with fingers and gel for about 10/15 mn, but could never full enter. Usually girls don t even propose me, when 200 extra at Globe but they don t propose.
This guy shows step by step guide on how to reach FKK Oase by public trasnport from Frankfurt central station. I myself do not like the idea of renting a car in Germany.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i41IzKvEfo0
Their shuttle Bus info.
https://www.fkk-oase.de/shuttleservice_saunaclub_fkk-oaseWhy bother to take public transportation? If you rent a nice car you easily can hit 200 kph on your way and leave whenever you want.
Speculation is rife about when the different venues might reopen again.
News came in today that they may be reopening the sex venues in the Saarland. Artemis in Berlin is reopening next month. No news about Hessen or any of the clubs yet.
Well if the mongers sitting in the USA and elsewhere are pissed about how long this is lasting, it's not much different here.
It's sweltering hot this week, no FKKS with pools, no air conditioning. No options other than streetwalkers in the RLD (overpriced, with cat and mouse games with the patrolling police), overpriced escorts. I mean, shouldn't the price of sex be going down, not up during times of economic distress? Not so here. No mongering abroad, Thailand shut tight for the rest of the year.
What's a guy to do but find a horny GF?
Speculation is rife about when the different venues might reopen again.
News came in today that they may be reopening the sex venues in the Saarland. Artemis in Berlin is reopening next month. No news about Hessen or any of the clubs yet.
Well if the mongers sitting in the USA and elsewhere are pissed about how long this is lasting, it's not much different here.
It's sweltering hot this week, no FKKS with pools, no air conditioning. No options other than streetwalkers in the RLD (overpriced, with cat and mouse games with the patrolling police), overpriced escorts. I mean, shouldn't the price of sex be going down, not up during times of economic distress? Not so here. No mongering abroad, Thailand shut tight for the rest of the year.
What's a guy to do but find a horny GF?It is what it is. Why spit against the wind? At least things appear to be headed the right direction even though Germany is seeing cases rise. People think there is no risk in opening up brothels. But these are high risk places. Why should an entire country have to pay the price because a few people wants to nut in a SW?
Is it: I hope Globe do realize that their competitive advantages are beautiful girls and good service or I hope Globe does realize that their competitive advantages are beautiful girls and good service?
Globe is an entity / organization, but third person, so Globe does is the right format to use right?
Alessandro527
08-11-20, 05:56
EL: getting Anal is very easy in the FKK, I just stopped it, too many times had shit on my condom, smelling badly in the room mostly without window. You get why you pay for, most of the top stunner first of all will no do any extra even CIM, just because they don t need to make their living, second top girls know their value, they will not discount them self, enter a Mercedes garage and ask to get the same price as a Nissan car probably they will say no.For me it is 50 % chance to get anal whenever I ask in any club I tried. I agree that top stunner don't give their butt so easy, chances drop to 20-30 %.
Why bother to take public transportation? If you rent a nice car you easily can hit 200 kph on your way and leave whenever you want.Each to their own! If you are in a hurry or you want "to try several FKKs in different places / cities" than I fully agree, renting a car is a better option.
But for many people, they will just visit one FKK in a day. They are not moving from one place to other places. If you are not in a hurry, want to relax, then taking public tranport is a better option in my personal opinion. Keep in mind if you have nothing else to do; waiting in FKKs for the next bus / train schedule for about an hour should not be a problem. You could always find something interesting to do, chatting with other fellow mongers, chatting with the girls, eating / drinking, etc.
Keep in mind Driving is working, also you will not be able to enjoy your time in FKKs drinking alcoholic drink. Even you do not drink alcohol, driving very early in the morning on your way back to hotel might be dangerous as you might be falling asleep. On the top of that you will pay more by renting the car instead of using public transport.
Always heard from my ex friend, renting car is cheap rate in Germany. Even too many works zones which are stressful, dangerous, losing time, but when can free speed, then very relaxing. Now waiting for Audi to put down new car engine under guaranty, then, after finishing my climbing season, if Artemis really open, I will test new engine to discover Berlin. Good run from entering Germany in Aachen, even driving in Italy or in France is faster on average, with much better motorways. Car making office, restaurant, hotel, only not brothel, even I took some escorts to go diner and Paris by night visit.
Each to their own! If you are in a hurry or you want "to try several FKKs in different places / cities" than I fully agree, renting a car is a better option.
But for many people, they will just visit one FKK in a day. They are not moving from one place to other places. If you are not in a hurry, want to relax, then taking public tranport is a better option in my personal opinion. Keep in mind if you have nothing else to do; waiting in FKKs for the next bus / train schedule for about an hour should not be a problem. You could always find something interesting to do, chatting with other fellow mongers, chatting with the girls, eating / drinking, etc.
Keep in mind Driving is working, also you will not be able to enjoy your time in FKKs drinking alcoholic drink. Even you do not drink alcohol, driving very early in the morning on your way back to hotel might be dangerous as you might be falling asleep. On the top of that you will pay more by renting the car instead of using public transport.I used to smoke up in FKK, so driving was not an option for me. Public transportation served me well in Germany and there was no problem accessing all the FKK I went to.
Always heard from my ex friend, renting car is cheap rate in Germany. Even too many works zones which are stressful, dangerous, losing time, but when can free speed, then very relaxing. Now waiting for Audi to put down new car engine under guaranty, then, after finishing my climbing season, if Artemis really open, I will test new engine to discover Berlin. Good run from entering Germany in Aachen, even driving in Italy or in France is faster on average, with much better motorways. Car making office, restaurant, hotel, only not brothel, even I took some escorts to go diner and Paris by night visit.Whatever car you choose to drive, please drive manual, not automatic.
For me it is 50 % chance to get anal whenever I ask in any club I tried. I agree that top stunner don't give their butt so easy, chances drop to 20-30 %.Even at Globe where anal is extra 200, no girl never proposed me, when they could make 200 for 10 mn in the ass. My girls type may also not be A+ specialist. Same like girls who don't want in public with me, when they do with others. We are all different as say girls.
Even at Globe where anal is extra 200, no girl never proposed me, when they could make 200 for 10 mn in the ass. My girls type may also not be A+ specialist. Same like girls who don't want in public with me, when they do with others. We are all different as say girls.At Globe I fucked a really pretty blonde girl from Gothenburg, Sweden in her pink asshole. She sucked my dick really good too throwing her pretty blonde hair all over the place. Like a wild woman! That was quite a while ago, so I'm sure she's no longer there. I don't remember it being 200 extra, but like I said, it was a long while ago. Switzerland is so damn expensive! Geez! Thank God for Germany and Brazil!
BrahmaPoutre
08-11-20, 18:30
Always heard from my ex friend, renting car is cheap rate in Germany. Even too many works zones which are stressful, dangerous, losing time, but when can free speed, then very relaxing. Now waiting for Audi to put down new car engine under guaranty, then, after finishing my climbing season, if Artemis really open, I will test new engine to discover Berlin. Good run from entering Germany in Aachen, even driving in Italy or in France is faster on average, with much better motorways. Car making office, restaurant, hotel, only not brothel, even I took some escorts to go diner and Paris by night visit.I visited Berlin last year by car and after Dortmund I was at 200/240 km / h most of the time except Hannover area. But driving in Berlin is quite stressing because it is very busy. I booked a good suite (living room with bedroom) in Mercure hotel near checkpoint Charlie because I was not alone on my trip. It was not so expensive depending on the day you want to stay.
Whatever car you choose to drive, please drive manual, not automatic.For 35 years I always thought manual gear box and for best Getrag crabots gear box was better, but now, Lewis Hamilton would not be able to compete with sequential automatic gear boxes making car being a rocket, over quattro grip until fourth gear. This is progress, all race cars are with sequential automatic now. But always a pleasure to drive manual. Same like driving atmospheric engine with no turbo. I remember 6 cylinders 3,5 liter on H35 Hartge BMW in late 80's.
At Globe I fucked a really pretty blonde girl from Gothenburg, Sweden in her pink asshole. She sucked my dick really good too throwing her pretty blonde hair all over the place. Like a wild woman! That was quite a while ago, so I'm sure she's no longer there. I don't remember it being 200 extra, but like I said, it was a long while ago. Switzerland is so damn expensive! Geez! Thank God for Germany and Brazil!Anal is 200 at Globe since a long while and never heard about Swedish there, only Polish.
I visited Berlin last year by car and after Dortmund I was at 200/240 km / h most of the time except Hannover area. But driving in Berlin is quite stressing because it is very busy. I booked a good suite (living room with bedroom) in Mercure hotel near checkpoint Charlie because I was not alone on my trip. It was not so expensive depending on the day you want to stay.Too many works zones in Germany, real pleasure today to drive with Italians from Aosta after Gran San Bernardino to Milano then Lecco, I love Italy.
For 35 years I always thought manual gear box and for best Getrag crabots gear box was better, but now, Lewis Hamilton would not be able to compete with sequential automatic gear boxes making car being a rocket, over quattro grip until fourth gear. This is progress, all race cars are with sequential automatic now. But always a pleasure to drive manual. Same like driving atmospheric engine with no turbo. I remember 6 cylinders 3,5 liter on H35 Hartge BMW in late 80's.And more and more, less companies are producing manual gear box cars. WRX sti, 911,and I cannot think of any other models actually. I think Audi stopped too.
Well, you can always go for older cars, and they are much better in design etc anyways.
With your driving uses for FKK and mountain, it is better to stick to rally cars, so Audi is good choice.
I visited Berlin last year by car and after Dortmund I was at 200/240 km / h most of the time except Hannover area. But driving in Berlin is quite stressing because it is very busy. I booked a good suite (living room with bedroom) in Mercure hotel near checkpoint Charlie because I was not alone on my trip. It was not so expensive depending on the day you want to stay.When I began taking FKK trip, I used to stay at 5 star hotels or nice boutique hotels, but now after I really got into FKK, then I began calculating everything with how much things cost in FKK that I no longer stay in such hotels because I begin to think how much BBBJ I could have get for this price or CIM option or rimjob option etc. So I stay in nice clean 3 or 4 star hotels near HBF during my FKK trips now LOL. I only sleep in hotel during my FKK trip anyways.
Even at Globe where anal is extra 200, no girl never proposed me, when they could make 200 for 10 mn in the ass. My girls type may also not be A+ specialist. Same like girls who don't want in public with me, when they do with others. We are all different as say girls.Anal is 200 euro in globe? The cane is right, thanks to Germany LOL.
How much was anal in lr and gt, wasn't it 50 euro extra? CIM was 20 euro in gt and lr right?
Not sure prostitution allowed with conditions will mean brothels will be allowed. I think escorting is allowed in Hessen, but not brothels. Not sure escorting is legal in NRW where some zones were put again under confined.
Why bother to take public transportation? If you rent a nice car you easily can hit 200 kph on your way and leave whenever you want.When I go to an FKK I like to eat, drink and relax. While relaxing I admire the parading buffet and chat with the more appealing damsels. If I do not see something I like I just enjoy the ambiance and hope a more interesting prospect comes along. Jumping into a car and hopping from one FKK to another is not my idea of an enjoyable FKK experience.
BrahmaPoutre
08-12-20, 16:07
Not sure prostitution allowed with conditions will mean brothels will be allowed. I think escorting is allowed in Hessen, but not brothels. Not sure escorting is legal in NRW where some zones were put again under confined.2 girls (Sandy in Sixsens and another one met at the hotel) told me escorting at the hotel is not allowed in NRW, fine could be up to 5000 thousands euros.
BrahmaPoutre
08-12-20, 16:20
When I began taking FKK trip, I used to stay at 5 star hotels or nice boutique hotels, but now after I really got into FKK, then I began calculating everything with how much things cost in FKK that I no longer stay in such hotels because I begin to think how much BBBJ I could have get for this price or CIM option or rimjob option etc. So I stay in nice clean 3 or 4 star hotels near HBF during my FKK trips now LOL. I only sleep in hotel during my FKK trip anyways.It was not so expensive, between 300 and 400 hundreds for 2 nights (on Sunday and Monday) and we were 3 of us.
I enjoyed very much Berlin, the only city you can find barbecue with curry wurst along the street! And breakfast in small cafe around are simply over the top! A lot of choices. On the other hand, this city is poured with tourists, so you have to choose carefully the restaurants at night because all of them are not so great and staff is not always friendly.
On my way back to Hannover, we had much more great times in restaurants in Hannover around the lake in the city center, simply outstanding how they try to please you even when they don't speak English.
Alessandro527
08-12-20, 16:28
When I began taking FKK trip, I used to stay at 5 star hotels or nice boutique hotels, but now after I really got into FKK, then I began calculating everything with how much things cost in FKK that I no longer stay in such hotels because I begin to think how much BBBJ I could have get for this price or CIM option or rimjob option etc. So I stay in nice clean 3 or 4 star hotels near HBF during my FKK trips now LOL. I only sleep in hotel during my FKK trip anyways.There is a 4 star Japanese style hotel near the HBF, I once stayed there and I had those experience in toilets with dozen buttons, I stayed 2 hours in the toilet playing with all buttons haha.
Yes I also do the same, I stay in 3-4 star hotels near the HBF so I can walk in city also easy, and I save money for some extra CIM or anal.
Not sure prostitution allowed with conditions will mean brothels will be allowed. I think escorting is allowed in Hessen, but not brothels. Not sure escorting is legal in NRW where some zones were put again under confined.No, all prostitution has been banned in NRW (I know, there are independents working) and the current regulations have been extended to August 31. This is the date when the original lockdown emergency was expected to end but with the local flare-ups it's likely to extend even further.
PaulInZurich
08-12-20, 19:02
At Globe I fucked a really pretty blonde girl from Gothenburg, Sweden in her pink asshole. She sucked my dick really good too throwing her pretty blonde hair all over the place. Like a wild woman! That was quite a while ago, so I'm sure she's no longer there. I don't remember it being 200 extra, but like I said, it was a long while ago. Switzerland is so damn expensive! Geez! Thank God for Germany and Brazil!That must have been Amanda Finnish Swedish mix. Pretty blonde, nipples type eraser, always erect. She was a lot in Westside as well.
When I go to an FKK I like to eat, drink and relax. While relaxing I admire the parading buffet and chat with the more appealing damsels. If I do not see something I like I just enjoy the ambiance and hope a more interesting prospect comes along. Jumping into a car and hopping from one FKK to another is not my idea of an enjoyable FKK experience.This is how I like to play it. Arrive mid to late afternoon. Stay anywhere from around midnight into the wee hours of the morning. If I fuck just two to three girls in that entire time, I'm happy! Then do it the next day at a different club. Palace day Oase day. Mainhattan day. And on and on. This is how I do. And I can do this for weeks on end! Can't wait for this damned pandemic to be over!
Mongerer88
08-12-20, 19:28
No, all prostitution has been banned in NRW (I know, there are independents working) and the current regulations have been extended to August 31. This is the date when the original lockdown emergency was expected to end but with the local flare-ups it's likely to extend even further.Escorting isn't prostitution. It is the sale of time and companionship. If the lady decides to provide sex during the block of purchased time, that is her choice. This is why escorting is allowed (and often flourishes) in markets where prostitution is outlawed all the time, pandemic or not. If the sell of time and physical presence is made illegal during a pandemic, most law and consultancy businesses would be required to have all business be conducted remotely. I have never read that to be the case during the pandemic in Germany. This is why sex work has come back sooner in Portugal, most of Spain, much of Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada, and even in the USA Than in countries that regulate the activity and encourage it to be conducted in a fixed physical (and registered) location, or within a red-light district. The advantages of both approaches can be debated forever, but clearly continued closures of large known facilities gives a competitive advantage to outcall escorts and ladies using trick-pads that are not registered as prostitution facilities.
2 girls (Sandy in Sixsens and another one met at the hotel) told me escorting at the hotel is not allowed in NRW, fine could be up to 5000 thousands euros.I got same information about NRW where paid sex is illegal. Not in Hessen.
Anal is 200 euro in globe? The cane is right, thanks to Germany LOL.
How much was anal in lr and gt, wasn't it 50 euro extra? CIM was 20 euro in gt and lr right?CIM for 25 € at GT and LR, 100 CHF at Globe. A+ for 50 when provided at GT / LR, 200 CHF at Globe. Even for such rate, girls don t propose me. Some less expensive Swiss clubs where can sometimes find prettier girls than at Globe.
And more and more, less companies are producing manual gear box cars. WRX sti, 911,and I cannot think of any other models actually. I think Audi stopped too.
Well, you can always go for older cars, and they are much better in design etc anyways.
With your driving uses for FKK and mountain, it is better to stick to rally cars, so Audi is good choice.You can still buy manual gear box cars like Audi or Porsche, but if you take same engine, now with sequential automatic is more performing and even Lewis Hamilton who is probably the fastest pilot could not compete driving a manual versus sequential automatic, but manual is real pleasure, tonight up to Stelvio under rain and old Audi really don't need quattro. If only I could put off on new, only useful on snow and ice, but Audi don t want to do it for me, even I explained them so bad feeling in very fast curves when over the grip.
There is a 4 star Japanese style hotel near the HBF, I once stayed there and I had those experience in toilets with dozen buttons, I stayed 2 hours in the toilet playing with all buttons haha.
Yes I also do the same, I stay in 3-4 star hotels near the HBF so I can walk in city also easy, and I save money for some extra CIM or anal.I call this FKK syndrome calculation LOL. Almost everything I do, I begin to compare to FKK price LOL. I love the trade prices of FKK.
There is a 4 star Japanese style hotel near the HBF, I once stayed there and I had those experience in toilets with dozen buttons, I stayed 2 hours in the toilet playing with all buttons haha.
Yes I also do the same, I stay in 3-4 star hotels near the HBF so I can walk in city also easy, and I save money for some extra CIM or anal.Yeah, Japanese toilets are better and it is mystery why western nations do not implement them to greater extent. Partly, it is due to cost of implementing them in West. My friend implemented to his home, but it costed him about 3000 chf, in Japan, it is about 1000 USD, they kind of put premium prices on them in Western nations. 1000 USD is justifiable, but 3000 USD, it is handy toy for wealthy people only or for hygiene conscious people who are willing to pay that much. But yeah, Toto toilets are by far best toilets in the world. They make the best Japanese style bath too!
Near HBF is also good because we monger tend to eat late snacks sometimes and small restaurants are open till late and hey I always enjoy my breakfast Kebab LOL!
It was not so expensive, between 300 and 400 hundreds for 2 nights (on Sunday and Monday) and we were 3 of us.
I enjoyed very much Berlin, the only city you can find barbecue with curry wurst along the street! And breakfast in small cafe around are simply over the top! A lot of choices. On the other hand, this city is poured with tourists, so you have to choose carefully the restaurants at night because all of them are not so great and staff is not always friendly.
On my way back to Hannover, we had much more great times in restaurants in Hannover around the lake in the city center, simply outstanding how they try to please you even when they don't speak English.Me too, Berlin for me is also the best German city. I love this historic vibe to it and somehow sense of liberalism in industrial historical set up. It is kind of arty city too. I like to stay around charlottenburg or savignyplatz, they are nice area and also restaurants are great there and additionally the areas have easy access to my beloved Artemis.
Escorting isn't prostitution. It is the sale of time and companionship. If the lady decides to provide sex during the block of purchased time, that is her choice. This is why escorting is allowed (and often flourishes) in markets where prostitution is outlawed all the time, pandemic or not. If the sell of time and physical presence is made illegal during a pandemic, most law and consultancy businesses would be required to have all business be conducted remotely. I have never read that to be the case during the pandemic in Germany. This is why sex work has come back sooner in Portugal, most of Spain, much of Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada, and even in the USA Than in countries that regulate the activity and encourage it to be conducted in a fixed physical (and registered) location, or within a red-light district. The advantages of both approaches can be debated forever, but clearly continued closures of large known facilities gives a competitive advantage to outcall escorts and ladies using trick-pads that are not registered as prostitution facilities.However, I never known any escort agencies or escorts who do not provide sex. It maybe legally as you explained, but in reality sex is main part of escort service package.
Having said that, there are many mongers who use FKK as kind of like escort, spending most of the time in room talking, not sex.
Alessandro527
08-13-20, 06:33
Escorting isn't prostitution. It is the sale of time and companionship. If the lady decides to provide sex during the block of purchased time, that is her choice. This is why escorting is allowed (and often flourishes) in markets where prostitution is outlawed all the time, pandemic or not. If the sell of time and physical presence is made illegal during a pandemic, most law and consultancy businesses would be required to have all business be conducted remotely. I have never read that to be the case during the pandemic in Germany. This is why sex work has come back sooner in Portugal, most of Spain, much of Australia, the United Kingdom, Canada, and even in the USA Than in countries that regulate the activity and encourage it to be conducted in a fixed physical (and registered) location, or within a red-light district. The advantages of both approaches can be debated forever, but clearly continued closures of large known facilities gives a competitive advantage to outcall escorts and ladies using trick-pads that are not registered as prostitution facilities.No escorting isn't prostitution.
Who said that licking balls and taking dick in ass after the dinner is prostitution? It is just companionship!
Man nice joke. You made my day hahaha.
CIM for 25 at GT and LR, 100 CHF at Globe. A+ for 50 when provided at GT / LR, 200 CHF at Globe. Even for such rate, girls don t propose me. Some less expensive Swiss clubs where can sometimes find prettier girls than at Globe.Wow 200 chf in globe, this I did not know, but could have expect. Anal in Germany only is the way to go. 100 euro is justifiable, 50 euro is bargain, 200 chf is over priced.
Wow 200 chf in globe, this I did not know, but could have expect. Anal in Germany only is the way to go. 100 euro is justifiable, 50 euro is bargain, 200 chf is over priced.Switzerland is expensive when average salary is around 4000 and 5000 for Zurich. Most of Swiss don t know more than Swiss clubs and think because more expensive, then better quality, when new generation of Romanians there since 2019 is lower level than Romanians I got in Germany or at YY or in Austria, and they make Globe becoming more and more often empty, even when not many clubs working. I know a Swiss who is 6 days per week in clubs and I don t say he is addicted, I m not jealous and he knows my way with girls. He spends much more time in Germany than in Swiss clubs. Swiss are not demanding for quality now.
Switzerland is expensive when average salary is around 4000 and 5000 for Zurich. Most of Swiss don t know more than Swiss clubs and think because more expensive, then better quality, when new generation of Romanians there since 2019 is lower level than Romanians I got in Germany or at YY or in Austria, and they make Globe becoming more and more often empty, even when not many clubs working. I know a Swiss who is 6 days per week in clubs and I don t say he is addicted, I m not jealous and he knows my way with girls. He spends much more time in Germany than in Swiss clubs. Swiss are not demanding for quality now.Siri, you speak highly about line up of YY and also Linda began her FKK career at YY, so now it makes me think YY is such a nice club.
Mongerer88
08-13-20, 12:41
No escorting isn't prostitution.
Who said that licking balls and taking dick in ass after the dinner is prostitution? It is just companionship!
Man nice joke. You made my day hahaha.Escorting has been how sex workers get around stupid laws in stupid countries for a long time, especially as independent escorts.
The government can easily outlaw prostitution, but it can't outlaw the sell of time and companionship without devastating a number of industries and violating most any Constitution. Sex is simply never discussed outside of the room unless both parties know that neither of them is the police. Once some form of sexual act occurs, it is obvious that neither is the police. It is an economically inefficient approach to a commercial sex transaction compared to an FKK, so it drives the price up, but it works.
And it also works extraordinarily well when a beloved government exercises its authority to simply shut down an establishment such as an FKK or a brothel during a pandemic. No government has the authority or the resources to make everyone stay home 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Even during a drastic lockdown, people are allowed out to shop, with no accountability as to how long they go for a shopping trip. An escort who has made an appointment with a customer on her cell phone or email, can walk or drive around with a small bag of groceries while visiting commercial sex customers throughout the day. Or customers can come see her at her trick-pad, which she leased as a regular apartment. If you look at the ads, escorting never completely stopped in any country due to Covid-19, especially by independents. A few agencies suspended operations for a while, because they are always at greater risk for police activity than independents are.
There is an old adage that a government big and powerful enough to give you everything you want can also take away everything you gave. I would argue that a government big and powerful enough to license four-story establishments where hundreds of commercial sex transactions occur every day must always be viewed as a threat to take that license away. So I think the existence of a robust escorting world is a good thing to have. Might even deter the government from doing closures and license revocations, if it truly believes in its regulatory system for commercial sex.
No escorting isn't prostitution.
Who said that licking balls and taking dick in ass after the dinner is prostitution? It is just companionship!
Man nice joke. You made my day hahaha.Yeah, escorting isn't prostitution. Tell it to the judge hahaha!
PaulInZurich
08-13-20, 16:40
Switzerland is expensive when average salary is around 4000 and 5000 for Zurich.Median gross salary in Zurich is 7820 CHF.
PaulInZurich
08-13-20, 16:49
Most of Swiss don t know more than Swiss clubs and think because more expensive, then better quality Generalize much? It's like saying most French drive every weekend at least 6 hours one way to FKKs and then pretending that they know everything about every single club in Europe.
BrahmaPoutre
08-13-20, 19:27
Yeah, escorting isn't prostitution. Tell it to the judge hahaha!Especially if the girl was registered as a prostitute in Germany since the new law! Hahaha.
So funny LOL.
BigBuddy69
08-13-20, 19:42
Generalize much? It's like saying most French drive every weekend at least 6 hours one way to FKKs and then pretending that they know everything about every single club in Europe.Most French have something else to do with their life.
Mongerer88
08-13-20, 21:24
Especially if the girl was registered as a prostitute in Germany since the new law! Hahaha.
So funny LOL.Yes, I am sure the line stretched for blocks when escorts could register as prostitutes and make it so much easier for her to remit more taxes, including the VAT.
I enjoyed very much Berlin, the only city you can find barbecue with curry wurst along the street! And breakfast in small cafe around are simply over the top! A lot of choices. On the other hand, this city is poured with tourists, so you have to choose carefully the restaurants at night because all of them are not so great and staff is not always friendly.
On my way back to Hannover, we had much more great times in restaurants in Hannover around the lake in the city center, simply outstanding how they try to please you even when they don't speak English.Curry Wurst is typical German fast food. Like Kebab, although original Berlin recipe but I fully believe you could find it in any city in Germany nowadays. At least I have seen them in many cities in Germany.
What is great about Berlin is that beside it is a tourist city it is also cheap to live compared to other cities in former west Germany. The public transport network is great. If you like swinger's club I do not think any city in Germany could beat Berlin.
What is great about Berlin is that beside it is a tourist city it is also cheap to live compared to other cities in former west Germany. The public transport network is great. If you like swinger's club I do not think any city in Germany could beat Berlin.As far as German cities go, I like Munich the best. But alas, Munich is not the best city for FKKs. Hard to have it all. Best FKKs in the best city!
BrahmaPoutre
08-13-20, 22:12
Curry Wurst is typical German fast food. Like Kebab, although original Berlin recipe but I fully believe you could find it in any city in Germany nowadays. At least I have seen them in many cities in Germany.I did not say currywurst was typical in Berlin only but I said more exactly that it was not common to find barbecues in the streets of big cities.
BrahmaPoutre
08-13-20, 22:31
Yes, I am sure the line stretched for blocks when escorts could register as prostitutes and make it so much easier for her to remit more taxes, including the VAT.I personally don't know any escort who is not registered as a prostitute in Germany.
Curry Wurst is typical German fast food. Like Kebab, although original Berlin recipe but I fully believe you could find it in any city in Germany nowadays. At least I have seen them in many cities in Germany.
What is great about Berlin is that beside it is a tourist city it is also cheap to live compared to other cities in former west Germany. The public transport network is great. If you like swinger's club I do not think any city in Germany could beat Berlin.Which swingers club is the best?
Can you enter by yourself or need a companion? And what's are the rules?
ExpatLover
08-14-20, 06:58
EL: I went to 2 swinger clubs in 2017, decided to go there on Saturday morning, the picture was terrible, only drucks people, or under drug influence, make up was gone, not one girl under 30, smelling the piss every where, just sex, no erotic, more or less I was the only clean guy, some ugly woman wanted to get fuck, obviously I refused, told me that I am gay in a aggressive way, I was just laughing about the situation with the owners of the clubs, terrible decadence. Freedom is nice but to end with that. One was KITKAT the other I don't remember.
As far as German cities go, I like Munich the best. But alas, Munich is not the best city for FKKs. Hard to have it all. Best FKKs in the best city!Vienna is interesting for both.
EL: I went to 2 swinger clubs in 2017, decided to go there on Saturday morning, the picture was terrible, only drunk people, or under drug influence, make up was gone, not one girl under 30, smelling the piss every where, just sex, no erotic, more or less I was the only clean guy, some ugly woman wanted to get fuck, obviously I refused, told me that I am gay in a aggressive way, I was just laughing about the situation with the owners of the clubs, terrible decadence. Freedom is nice but to end with that. One was KITKAT the other I don't remember.Yes, a major problem with swinging is that too many of the women are a bunch of washed up, ugly fatties looking for some dick. Not happening here! I would much rather procure exactly what I want with money versus fuck what I don't want for free. I couldn't even get hard for one of those swinging uglies. No way no how! Prostitution is the light and the way!
Generalize much? It's like saying most French drive every weekend at least 6 hours one way to FKKs and then pretending that they know everything about every single club in Europe.Never wrote I know every club, never been to Artemis because too far and would not go to Austrian clubs from Paris because too far, but when I'm in Lombardy or Frioul where I like to spend my holidays, but for sure I know a bit more than only Globe, and even in only Switzerland, like Freubad which is the most beautiful club in Switzerland with garden, 2 swimming pool, better foods than at Globe, for 269 for entry, foods and 1 hour, versus 375 at Globe, but unfortunately new beauties who try, don't stay because low business. Same for Amesia I like, but management is killing business with no more foods and increasing girls rate to 170/30 , following Aphrodisia which is most often empty. As say girls: this guy goes everywhere. I knew Larissa and Megan is 3 different clubs, Aurelia in 4 different clubs, Kate in 2. I don't work in Zurich but I m a free bird and I don t rob my money when I worked under virus and not from home close to heater, but outside with my guys, to show them I was at same risk than them and they would follow me everywhere, as long they can get money with me and they see me always going first, then they follow, I don t wait to be paid by French administration, I have to produce results if I want to be paid, so I don't waste my money when looks or behavior don t worth expensive Globe rate, when I make more than Zurich median. Fortunately, when not many clubs at the moment, was lucky to find a new interesting girl with a bit of elegance and good manners, not unreachable but welcoming for discovery and to repeat, and I m a simple guy, only 1 good girl is enough for me, and even the best for my mind. I remember a friendly Swiss living around Zurich, finding Freubad was too far to go often to a girl he likes, who moved there. As I said to Swiss administration in Arau, Zurich police jail and Meylin, in 6 days, a very small country. Didn't see any control on top of Gran San Bernardino nor Umbrail / Stelvio when climbed.
Siri, you speak highly about line up of YY and also Linda began her FKK career at YY, so now it makes me think YY is such a nice club.Were prettier faces than Linda I enjoyed at YY, but closed on end of February 2019, and even I really wish will reopen, but will be very difficult and nothing about virus, when 6 ens is open, but even 6 ens staff is more friendly, but YY was far higher level for girls, for looks and in bed. Beauties are most often the best in bed, when You are able with them.
EL: I went to 2 swinger clubs in 2017, decided to go there on Saturday morning, the picture was terrible, only drucks people, or under drug influence, make up was gone, not one girl under 30, smelling the piss every where, just sex, no erotic, more or less I was the only clean guy, some ugly woman wanted to get fuck, obviously I refused, told me that I am gay in a aggressive way, I was just laughing about the situation with the owners of the clubs, terrible decadence. Freedom is nice but to end with that. One was KITKAT the other I don't remember.Oh, so obviously quality of women at swingers clubs are not good then.
Mongerer88
08-14-20, 11:28
I personally don't know any escort who is not registered as a prostitute in Germany.The various recent studies must have been wrong, then.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-prostitute-protection-laws-proving-impotent/a-47560411
"Only a tiny fraction of prostitutes working in Germany have taken advantage of laws allowing them to register for social security, according to a report released Monday.
Out of the roughly 200,000 women who work as prostitutes in Germany, only 76 women were registered for state services in 2018, the Welt daily reported, citing the government answer to an inquiry by the business-friendly Free Democrats (FDP). "
EL: I went to 2 swinger clubs in 2017, decided to go there on Saturday morning, the picture was terrible, only drucks people, or under drug influence, make up was gone, not one girl under 30, smelling the piss every where, just sex, no erotic, more or less I was the only clean guy, some ugly woman wanted to get fuck, obviously I refused, told me that I am gay in a aggressive way, I was just laughing about the situation with the owners of the clubs, terrible decadence. Freedom is nice but to end with that. One was KITKAT the other I don't remember.EL all your sexual experiences appear to have been bad, no wonder you seem so disenchanted with matters of the flesh. You are in Europe, no? Thank your lucky stars you don't live in the US.
Vienna is interesting for both.I would say that Vienna as a city is superior to even Munich. But the sex scene there, in my opinion, is not up to par with what can be found in Germany in general. If Germany were to go down, then I would have no choice but to pivot to Switzerland, which has the kind of quality FKK scene that I like. I stick with Germany first in Europe due to cost considerations. And also the fact that my needs can be satisfactorily met in Germany. I'm not one of the ones who believes that service in Switzerland is better than in Germany. It's more expensive for sure LOL! But not better as far as I am concerned. I get excellent service in Germany, which adds up to better value for my money.
BrahmaPoutre
08-14-20, 18:05
The various recent studies must have been wrong, then.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-prostitute-protection-laws-proving-impotent/a-47560411
"Only a tiny fraction of prostitutes working in Germany have taken advantage of laws allowing them to register for social security, according to a report released Monday.
Out of the roughly 200,000 women who work as prostitutes in Germany, only 76 women were registered for state services in 2018, the Welt daily reported, citing the government answer to an inquiry by the business-friendly Free Democrats (FDP). "Interesting study. Honestly I would have never believed it until now.
Oh, there are still some non-pro women who will take you. They will say stuff like, "I will take care of you". I had a non-pro actually tell me that one time. Well, I'm not the kind of man who wants or needs to be "taken care of" by anybody. I do for myself. Laundry, vacuum, and everything haha! Now, all that said, still what an American non-pro is more likely to tell you is, "If you want to be with me? Then you got to have a job, a car, and an apartment or a house"! LOLOLOL! And it takes some money to have those things.
Between pros and non-pros? Listen to this, especially starting at the 1:54 mark LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY2-mrsXgMM.RE: pros, many WGs supposedly pay for the BMWs and Mercedes of their BF or husband. RE: non-pros, see statistics below.
RE: video, that singer, Eryka Badu, I am willing to bet, makes more money than her partner. At 2:30, she expresses resentment that every time they go somewhere, she has to reach into her purse to pay for him and his friends.
"Thirty-eight percent of American wives earn more than their husbands."
https://www.npr.org/2015/02/08/384695833/what-happens-when-wives-earn-more-than-husbands?t=1597446123311
"Figures compiled by the Press Association have shown that between the ages of 22 and 29, a woman will typically earn 1,111 GBP more per annum than her male counterparts."
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/aug/29/women-in-20s-earn-more-men-same-age-study-finds
I personally don't know any escort who is not registered as a prostitute in Germany.The various recent studies must have been wrong, then.
"Only a tiny fraction of prostitutes working in Germany have taken advantage of laws allowing them to register for social security, according to a report released Monday.
Out of the roughly 200,000 women who work as prostitutes in Germany, only 76 women were registered for state services in 2018, the Welt daily reported, citing the government answer to an inquiry by the business-friendly Free Democrats (FDP). "Brothel operators, I believe would verify that all their WGs have registered with authorities. In the event of the raid, there would be too much to lose, especially for bigger clubs. I seem to recall WGs telling me that they had to make appointments at multiple offices to meet the registration requirement (I. E. Law enforcement, taxing / finance, medical). I am not sure that registering with the other offices also means that they are registered with "social security", which was the exact verbiage used in the article.
Were prettier faces than Linda I enjoyed at YY, but closed on end of February 2019, and even I really wish will reopen, but will be very difficult and nothing about virus, when 6 ens is open, but even 6 ens staff is more friendly, but YY was far higher level for girls, for looks and in bed. Beauties are most often the best in bed, when You are able with them.So where did girls at YY go? 6 sens or globe or where?
ExpatLover
08-15-20, 13:49
El: I don't agree with you, GT Time is next to my door. I was there several times last year and the LU was comparable to Shark or Oase in the good days. I had 0 rooms just because I am extremely selective, there are some young and fresh girls sitting left to the entry eating MC Do each time and even don t trying to make any eye contact so a no go for me but for sure nice girls for sure impossible to find in Germany since mid 16. Also a lot of pro girls, probably working in Germany before.
RE: video, that singer, Eryka Badu, I am willing to bet, makes more money than her partner. At 2:30, she expresses resentment that every time they go somewhere, she has to reach into her purse to pay for him and his friends.Well 'Tyrone' was written when she was dating Andre 3000 of Outkast who was and still is worth way more than Erykah Badu and was also already famous before she made her first single.
According to a Swiss newspaper Sweden is stepping up its fight against prostitution using new methods. Link in German:https://www.msn.com/de-ch/news/other/schweden-intensiviert-seinen-kampf-gegen-die-prostitution/ar-BB17Oly4?li=BBqfRGn. I think it's scary that most of the political establishment is strongly opposed to prostitution and giving sex workers rights. Despite what one forumer said months ago the Swedes seem seriously at abolishing prostitution.
I would say that Vienna as a city is superior to even Munich. But the sex scene there, in my opinion, is not up to par with what can be found in Germany in general. If Germany were to go down, then I would have no choice but to pivot to Switzerland, which has the kind of quality FKK scene that I like. I stick with Germany first in Europe due to cost considerations. And also the fact that my needs can be satisfactorily met in Germany. I'm not one of the ones who believes that service in Switzerland is better than in Germany. It's more expensive for sure LOL! But not better as far as I am concerned. I get excellent service in Germany, which adds up to better value for my money.For sure Vienna can't compete with Dusseldorf or Frankfurt for clubs number, but even I was disappointed by my second visit at Golden Time, but my fault about Sepid who asked me to take breakfast with her and at least 3 times after, she really remembered what happened on our discovery, but not same wow aura and also not same freshness for still lovely Coralia, so I made my bad day, but from what I saw on discovery, experienced with 2 girls at GT Bruggen, and always heard, casting is higher level for looks at GT Vienna than in Germany and experienced good level for my way in bed. Only good point is after 3 days in Austria with Wellcum casting really falling, I won t be too frustrated Austria is too far to drive weekly. Except when I m on holidays, close, but Wellcum don't worth the trip, only for Italians and Italian level, when GT was really good on discovery with beauties and enjoyable level in bed, but didn't find new wow beauties I looked for on my repeat. But for sure, Vienna worth the visit.
According to a Swiss newspaper Sweden is stepping up its fight against prostitution using new methods. Link in German:https://www.msn.com/de-ch/news/other/schweden-intensiviert-seinen-kampf-gegen-die-prostitution/ar-BB17Oly4?li=BBqfRGn. I think it's scary that most of the political establishment is strongly opposed to prostitution and giving sex workers rights. Despite what one forumer said months ago the Swedes seem seriously at abolishing prostitution.It's no wonder why I met so many Swedish people in German FKK, especially at Artemis.
For sure Vienna can't compete with Dusseldorf or Frankfurt for clubs number, but even I was disappointed by my second visit at Golden Time, but my fault about Sepid who asked me to take breakfast with her and at least 3 times after, she really remembered what happened on our discovery, but not same wow aura and also not same freshness for still lovely Coralia, so I made my bad day, but from what I saw on discovery, experienced with 2 girls at GT Bruggen, and always heard, casting is higher level for looks at GT Vienna than in Germany and experienced good level for my way in bed. Only good point is after 3 days in Austria with Wellcum casting really falling, I won t be too frustrated Austria is too far to drive weekly. Except when I m on holidays, close, but Wellcum don't worth the trip, only for Italians and Italian level, when GT was really good on discovery with beauties and enjoyable level in bed, but didn't find new wow beauties I looked for on my repeat. But for sure, Vienna worth the visit.So the tall girls weren't so interesting. How about short girls? Anything interesting?
So the tall girls weren't so interesting. How about short girls? Anything interesting?As wrote Massimo on Austrian thread, August 2020 is not best time and also because of Romania under quarantine. I made my bad day at GT when Sepid was really welcoming and reminding all of our intense discovery, proposing me to take breakfast together before improving level with no more taboo. But at GT and Wellcum, lack of beauties for me. After big thermic shock in Stelvio, from climbing under more than 30 degrees to get rain with 13 degrees on top and downhill, and meteo problems in Frioul, ColGentile road is impossible with blocked pedals when ground, gravels, pieces of trees, so 3 days at Wellcum I used for restaurant and to recover from shock and only 1 girl, Anna, no wow when I saw her, but I found she has beautiful smile and eyes and one of the prettiest with no silicon nor tattoo and more honest, not killing desire about grocery upselling. Under cold image, she is nice and kind. I didn't think to repeat after discovery, but really nothing better on Saturday, when Nika with her friend try to fuck us with threesome I refused, so she asked: what kind of sex do You like? I answered: normal sex like at home. She said: boring, my fantasy is anal sex. So, as I m the most honest guy, I told her: Do You really think You can get me full inside your ass? I m not Asian. So she wanted I show her my size just in front of new DJ place close to massage, I refused, so she thought: You have big dick, I answered: just normal size, then she said: we see later. A real joke, I would like to see her with me full inside her ass, not even sure with only 1 finger, just waste of 100 , and when they are just shame for honest Romanian girls and I got many, but they got guys with their game, but Italians are easy and not demanding for sex, they prefer to talk and joke, kind of European Asians. Also girls saying not kissing because of corona, but they can suck good, find the logic. Most propose good massage, maybe Italians like, but I don t pay for massage with oil. Here is Wellcum Italian level, really down since 2017/2018 with great Lena and fire in bed Angie before silicon and acid / botox. On Thursday evening, she was not busy, but very busy on Saturday when kind of gay club, but always smiling, so when I arrived at noon, when no new attractive found, I went to her at 00.30 am, fortunately I m faster for my climbing, she was still welcoming and even speaking in French, I thought closing was at 3 am like at GT, but 1 am now at Wellcum, so I told her: we will have to be faster than yesterday, she answered: no problem, we can stay after 1 am, when she had a really busy day and was tired, and real improvement in bed compare to average discovery, I know she liked something. Like with Lena on Ferragosto party 2017 , when we went downstairs, only us and full light on. On Sunday, I recovered, but rain in Frioul, so I drove to study ColGentile, car with more than 200 P.S. Can only climb 28% on first manual gear, and Zoncolan, then returned to Wellcum to get diner to prepare body. From 8 pm to 11 pm, no new beauty seen, so again smiling, I would say 1,73 sweet Anna, always welcoming, speaking in French, joking about what she discovered, she was not so busy on this Sunday like on Thursday, for our third room when she did let go more and more. No wow for look but pretty enough and natural body, not fire in bed like Angie, but real enjoyment was her improvement and how she did trust me from average discovery when I didn't think to repeat to my only girl on 4 days in Austria and I prefer to spend my money with a nice and pretty enough girl, even not tornado, than with girls who try to fuck us, or say not kissing, then I don t insist, I run away. But this show casting levels, don t worth the trip at the moment. Only because Wellcum Ovaro is 100 kms and less than 1 hour, and unfortunately, Andiamo still closed. On Ferragosto party, new girls came just for week end, but all same girls on 3 days, for very average looks and behavior.
The various recent studies must have been wrong, then.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-prostitute-protection-laws-proving-impotent/a-47560411
"Only a tiny fraction of prostitutes working in Germany have taken advantage of laws allowing them to register for social security, according to a report released Monday.
Out of the roughly 200,000 women who work as prostitutes in Germany, only 76 women were registered for state services in 2018, the Welt daily reported, citing the government answer to an inquiry by the business-friendly Free Democrats (FDP). "I thought they have to register without any choices.
Mongerer88
08-17-20, 13:51
I thought they have to register without any choices.For that to be enforced, a government would have to place huge fines on escort advertising sites, and have the ability to make those sites inaccessible to German customers, if the escort's website, or mass advertising site, does not have proof that an escort serving the German market has registered as a sex worker. That is a logistical nightmare. Very few of those websites are hosted in Germany, so it is unclear if a request for such proof would be honored if requested electronically by the German government, and unclear if any German law would even jurisdictionally extend beyond Germany's borders, or if the German Laws would allow blocking of websites that did not comply with requests. So even if the law requires that German escorts register on the Sex Worker Registry, it is doubtful that the compliance rate is very high among escorts, particularly for foreign workers. Escort advertisements do not use real names, so German law enforcement is going to have a difficult time finding them. Of course Germany could have its police booking fake escort appointments and demand to see her registration papers, but that is not consistent with Germany's law enforcement approach to sex work, thank god.
Of course, brothels and FKKs are different. Germany grants them licenses. It is easy for an inspector to drop by and count ladies, look at the registration card for each lady, and compare payouts to registration cards for ladies not there. Clear violations would risk license revocation.
But many escorts throughout the world prefer to ply their trade without registering as a sex worker. In fact, I would argue that most would prefer that.
It's no wonder why I met so many Swedish people in German FKK, especially at Artemis.I've never met any Swedes there. I've heard Swedish spoken on a number of occasions but always various forms of Turks.
According to a Swiss newspaper Sweden is stepping up its fight against prostitution using new methods. Link in German:https://www.msn.com/de-ch/news/other/schweden-intensiviert-seinen-kampf-gegen-die-prostitution/ar-BB17Oly4?li=BBqfRGn. I think it's scary that most of the political establishment is strongly opposed to prostitution and giving sex workers rights. Despite what one forumer said months ago the Swedes seem seriously at abolishing prostitution.There was this sort of famous guy who's been on TV countless times, former boxer, reformed thug, cook, you name it. He was caught in a sting operation a couple of months ago. The attacks on him were super serious. Every company he associated with had to sever links immediately. He was also reported for rape (since prostitutes are trafficking victims). I'd rather be caught doing just about anything than being caught soliciting prostitutes in Sweden. I know more experienced people say risks are low and if you deny nothing will happen. Possibly true but not worth it when Germany was available. Not even worth it now.
I've never met any Swedes there. I've heard Swedish spoken on a number of occasions but always various forms of Turks.I have met Swedish quite many times in Artemis, but mostly a lot of Italian people and Turkish people in Artemis. The club is owned by Turkish guy, so it makes sense for meeting Turkish guy.
For that to be enforced, a government would have to place huge fines on escort advertising sites, and have the ability to make those sites inaccessible to German customers, if the escort's website, or mass advertising site, does not have proof that an escort serving the German market has registered as a sex worker. That is a logistical nightmare. Very few of those websites are hosted in Germany, so it is unclear if a request for such proof would be honored if requested electronically by the German government, and unclear if any German law would even jurisdictionally extend beyond Germany's borders, or if the German Laws would allow blocking of websites that did not comply with requests. So even if the law requires that German escorts register on the Sex Worker Registry, it is doubtful that the compliance rate is very high among escorts, particularly for foreign workers. Escort advertisements do not use real names, so German law enforcement is going to have a difficult time finding them. Of course Germany could have its police booking fake escort appointments and demand to see her registration papers, but that is not consistent with Germany's law enforcement approach to sex work, thank god.
Of course, brothels and FKKs are different. Germany grants them licenses. It is easy for an inspector to drop by and count ladies, look at the registration card for each lady, and compare payouts to registration cards for ladies not there. Clear violations would risk license revocation.
But many escorts throughout the world prefer to ply their trade without registering as a sex worker. In fact, I would argue that most would prefer that.So to work in FKK, you do need to register? But for escort agencies, you do not need to register?
As usual, these laws are so complex and complicated.
There was this sort of famous guy who's been on TV countless times, former boxer, reformed thug, cook, you name it. He was caught in a sting operation a couple of months ago. The attacks on him were super serious. Every company he associated with had to sever links immediately. He was also reported for rape (since prostitutes are trafficking victims). I'd rather be caught doing just about anything than being caught soliciting prostitutes in Sweden. I know more experienced people say risks are low and if you deny nothing will happen. Possibly true but not worth it when Germany was available. Not even worth it now.And all he had to do is to fly to Germany LOL.
I would say legal prostitution is the best format to have best sex life for men from standpoint of safety in all perspective.
Nobody around me know about what I do in Germany, I do not have to worry about getting sued or prosecuted, I have no women bothering me to do thins that I do not want to do etc. And above all my sex partners do not get old or ugly and I get to choose with whom I have sex with, how many and what to do during sex etc. Isn't this the best men could hope for? I would say so.
In this almost free world we finally and fortunately get to live in now, it is a waste to just to stick to one pussy.
When it comes to sex life, I lived among the best and I did it my way as Frank Sinatra once said because I never abandon my childhood dream of fucking many young beautiful girls as I want one after another. In my life, this became reality, I did it, and I feel so accomplished as a man. And to be continued LOL!
IIRC, independent girls don't have to register.
There was this sort of famous guy who's been on TV countless times, former boxer, reformed thug, cook, you name it. He was caught in a sting operation a couple of months ago. The attacks on him were super serious. Every company he associated with had to sever links immediately. He was also reported for rape (since prostitutes are trafficking victims). I'd rather be caught doing just about anything than being caught soliciting prostitutes in Sweden. I know more experienced people say risks are low and if you deny nothing will happen. Possibly true but not worth it when Germany was available. Not even worth it now.I read about him. Wasn't he or his parents originally from Italy or another country? I sometimes don't get Sweden's hostility with prostitution, and Sweden. Is it because of radical feminism or because of old Protestant Christianity (Lutheran) morals and views on sex? Quite a shame they act like this. They could have been a big advocate for prostitution given their "progressive" nature.
I've never met any Swedes there. I've heard Swedish spoken on a number of occasions but always various forms of Turks.Correct me if I'm wrong, but like Norway, can Sweden prosecute their citizens if partaking in prostitution even in countries where it is legal? If so, they are probably not so forthcoming in revealing their nation of origin. Also, Swedes speak English pretty well. I personally have a difficult time discerning a distinct Swedish accent when speaking to a Swede in clubs. I've even sensed a bit of hesitation when I do ask about their country of origin.
Even if not true, I believe the Swedish culture is a bit more critical of prostitution than most others. Something like 71% of Swedes supported the position of criminalizing the purchase of sex. The social stigma in that country itself may predisposed Swedes from revealing their nationality while visiting a brothel.
Blue Swede
08-18-20, 05:51
According to a Swiss newspaper Sweden is stepping up its fight against prostitution using new methods. Link in German:https://www.msn.com/de-ch/news/other/schweden-intensiviert-seinen-kampf-gegen-die-prostitution/ar-BB17Oly4?li=BBqfRGn. I think it's scary that most of the political establishment is strongly opposed to prostitution and giving sex workers rights. Despite what one forumer said months ago the Swedes seem seriously at abolishing prostitution.In Sweden there is a number of policemen working with trafficing and prostitution. The most known person of these policemen have written a number of books on the topic.
He has just (late May) released a new book, so I think some operations have the purpose to stir up some dust and maybe increase the interest for the book.
In Sweden there is a number of policemen working with trafficing and prostitution. The most known person of these policemen have written a number of books on the topic.
He has just (late May) released a new book, so I think some operations have the purpose to stir up some dust and maybe increase the interest for the book.I remember few years ago, I don't know if still working, many Swedish taking sex boats to Tallin, to drink and fuck poor Estonian girls, with violence from drunk frustrated guys as said girls, but no complaints were possible because boats were out of Sweden water and same for Estonia. Is this business still working? Do Sweden still make this shame out of the land? It was just after law prosecuting clients. Same law in France, so we go in Spain, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Belgium or NL on the other side of our borders. Also no big risk meeting escort in private in France.
Alessandro527
08-18-20, 08:03
It's no wonder why I met so many Swedish people in German FKK, especially at Artemis.It is not original Swedish but in most cases Turks raised in Sweden.
It is not original Swedish but in most cases Turks raised in Sweden.No, I actually met quite few Swedish guys and they were Caucasian white looking. There is nothing wrong with mongering in FKK man and considering the law in Sweden, I recommend them to fly to Germany for their own safety.
So to work in FKK, you do need to register? But for escort agencies, you do not need to register?
As usual, these laws are so complex and complicated.With new law, since 1 January 2018 , all prostitutes and escorts are, have to register to work in Germany, and to pay tax according to income, even they can lie about income, like with us. Some girls stopped because they didn't want to register. Mio. De can t work anymore in Germany because she doesn't want to register, so she tour at Globe. Manga girl, but lovely.
Mongerer88
08-18-20, 15:00
So to work in FKK, you do need to register? But for escort agencies, you do not need to register?
As usual, these laws are so complex and complicated.You are a very literal person, Mr. Ho.
Yes, I am sure that all escorts are required to register.
But what if they don't?
How does the German police detective find 'Sunshine" who advertises as an escort to confirm her registration, particularly if the website she advertises on is not located in Germany?
Sex work has less than 100 percent perfect compliance with registration, taxation and government pension contribution systems.
ElBurroEsta
08-18-20, 15:08
Correct me if I'm wrong, but like Norway, can Sweden prosecute their citizens if partaking in prostitution even in countries where it is legal? If so, they are probably not so forthcoming in revealing their nation of origin. Also, Swedes speak English pretty well. I personally have a difficult time discerning a distinct Swedish accent when speaking to a Swede in clubs. I've even sensed a bit of hesitation when I do ask about their country of origin.
Even if not true, I believe the Swedish culture is a bit more critical of prostitution than most others. Something like 71% of Swedes supported the position of criminalizing the purchase of sex. The social stigma in that country itself may predisposed Swedes from revealing their nationality while visiting a brothel.Swedish society has decided all men are bad.
In Sweden there is a number of policemen working with trafficing and prostitution. The most known person of these policemen have written a number of books on the topic.
He has just (late May) released a new book, so I think some operations have the purpose to stir up some dust and maybe increase the interest for the book.Scandinavian men born in and growing up in their respective countries do not need the services of prostitutes. Scandinavian women give in to sex with their men very easily. When I visited Denmark and Sweden in 1992 I found the women so very friendly and easy to ask out on a date. In Denmark a young beautiful 18 year old girl who I never thought would have been friendly with me went on a date with me. I met her at a swimming pool complex where she was with her younger sister. Scandinavian women are super friendly.
Update about prostitution situation in Saarland.
Prostitution is allowed again due to the judge's verdict in Saarland, but as long as the official rules for it are not clear, it cannot, at least officially, be exercised.
Source: https://www.saarbruecker-zeitung.de/saarland/landespolitik/prostitution-im-saarland-wieder-erlaubt-regeln-dafuer-aber-noch-offen_aid-52746039.
So it is still a rocky road. In the meantime, the "Working Group on Prostitution Sites of the Federal States" is developing rules on how prostitution can take place in the future, taking the Corona measures into account, and which special paths municipalities can take.
Source: https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/inland/politik-inland/prostitution-in-corona-zeiten-diese-sex-regeln-sollen-kuenftig-in-bordellen-gelt-72397468
BrahmaPoutre
08-18-20, 17:41
No, I actually met quite few Swedish guys and they were Caucasian white looking. There is nothing wrong with mongering in FKK man and considering the law in Sweden, I recommend them to fly to Germany for their own safety.I agree. I also met Swedish guys in Artemis a few years ago and they told me they all come to Germany for sex and there were Caucasian, I confirm 200 %.
Scandinavian men born in and growing up in their respective countries do not need the services of prostitutes. Scandinavian women give in to sex with their men very easily. When I visited Denmark and Sweden in 1992 I found the women so very friendly and easy to ask out on a date. In Denmark a young beautiful 18 year old girl who I never thought would have been friendly with me went on a date with me. I met her at a swimming pool complex where she was with her younger sister. Scandinavian women are super friendly.I agree, but not everyone can take advantage of liberal attitudes towards sex in Scandinavia. Speaking of Denmark it has an active sex scene, with plenty of escorts, massage parlors, and brothels since prostitution is legal. I don't think too many people know about that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but like Norway, can Sweden prosecute their citizens if partaking in prostitution even in countries where it is legal? If so, they are probably not so forthcoming in revealing their nation of origin. Also, Swedes speak English pretty well. I personally have a difficult time discerning a distinct Swedish accent when speaking to a Swede in clubs. I've even sensed a bit of hesitation when I do ask about their country of origin.
Sweden won't prosecute anyone for going to a FKK. On the other hand the real price is being found out since that will immediately destroy your career, business and possibly friendships too.
I speak the language so I know when I hear it who is speaking it. I understand that Swedes are probably there alone and have no reason to be speaking Swedish but the truth is that every time I heard Swedish spoken it was some sort of Turk. I saw an comment here about them being caucasian white. Yes, caucasian, I. E. Not white. Caucasus is an area where people are various forms of Turks. People have light skin but they aren't white in any cultural sense of the word. Any Swede will immediately see the diffference since it's obvious.
Let's not go overboard on that angle. I, as a Swedish speaker, just dispute that there are many real Swedes at Artemis. At least in groups. Like I say, everytime it's been some form of Turks. I've heard them already at the airport sometimes when I've had other reasons to go to Berlin too.
Update about prostitution situation in Saarland.
Prostitution is allowed again due to the judge's verdict in Saarland, but as long as the official rules for it are not clear, it cannot, at least officially, be exercised.
Source: https://www.saarbruecker-zeitung.de/saarland/landespolitik/prostitution-im-saarland-wieder-erlaubt-regeln-dafuer-aber-noch-offen_aid-52746039.
So it is still a rocky road. In the meantime, the "Working Group on Prostitution Sites of the Federal States" is developing rules on how prostitution can take place in the future, taking the Corona measures into account, and which special paths municipalities can take.
Source: https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/inland/politik-inland/prostitution-in-corona-zeiten-diese-sex-regeln-sollen-kuenftig-in-bordellen-gelt-72397468Prostitution don't mean brothels where crowd. Let s see if big Artemis will really open? If really, then after Mont Ventoux and with new engine, I will make such a run at night, cleaning from Aachen autobahn to go to discover Berlin.
Prostitution don't mean brothels where crowd. Let s see if big Artemis will really open? If really, then after Mont Ventoux and with new engine, I will make such a run at night, cleaning from Aachen autobahn to go to discover Berlin.I am surprised you never been to Artemis or Berlin. They are both really fine place. But line up was better before like all other FKKs.
Sweden won't prosecute anyone for going to a FKK. On the other hand the real price is being found out since that will immediately destroy your career, business and possibly friendships too.
I speak the language so I know when I hear it who is speaking it. I understand that Swedes are probably there alone and have no reason to be speaking Swedish but the truth is that every time I heard Swedish spoken it was some sort of Turk. I saw an comment here about them being caucasian white. Yes, caucasian, I. E. Not white. Caucasus is an area where people are various forms of Turks. People have light skin but they aren't white in any cultural sense of the word. Any Swede will immediately see the diffference since it's obvious.
Let's not go overboard on that angle. I, as a Swedish speaker, just dispute that there are many real Swedes at Artemis. At least in groups. Like I say, everytime it's been some form of Turks. I've heard them already at the airport sometimes when I've had other reasons to go to Berlin too.Personal experience, I've met about a half dozen white Swedes in FKKs, and yeah, they've always been alone. Strangely enough, have never met a Turkish-Swede. Maybe because I always assume any Turkish person in FKKs are just German.
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