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Today I drove from Poland to France without any control on the several boarders I ad to cross so no problem for the girls to travel from Rumania.Just follow Google maps, and in case there is some checkups on the border, it will either revert you directly to some obscure country road, or you will easily see some orange on the Google maps.
ExpatLover
06-10-21, 01:58
Ok, then I may consider to fly from Japan then LOL! But in reality, I may wait a bit as it is kinda far for me to risk, but you, enjoy, girls need financial help, you need sexual one LOL!I will not go to any FKK or meet any prostitute, even I could easily do it. I just I don't want to take any risk. I don t care what the girls need, there are jobs available everywhere in Europe, they don t need to open their holes to earn money.
ExpatLover
06-10-21, 02:02
Many guys pay to receive GS. Funny to see them going to room with big glass or bottle of water for their girl. My advice: don t take this girl just after, because fast but not so easy money for the girl, having big belly for a while.0 risk for me, I am always the first customer of the day and usually my type of girl do 0 extra, just because they are beautiful and they don't need to make money.
ExpatLover
06-10-21, 02:15
Yeah, I can pop onto plane, but somehow it is more expensive for hotel, not so much for flight!I don't agree, Hotels are not expensive may be the famous brands but the 2/3/4 stars in Germany were never so cheap. For example this night in a 4 star near Stuttgart I paid 60 euros including breakfast.
Many guys pay to receive GS. Funny to see them going to room with big glass or bottle of water for their girl. My advice: don t take this girl just after, because fast but not so easy money for the girl, having big belly for a while.Some guys also like to scream like little dog under prostate massage. Some like fat girls, not so many feel comfortable and self confident with elegant beauties, calling them optifuck or princess, when they are usually my best, and I just wish to find one on my return, it would help me a lot.
0 risk for me, I am always the first customer of the day and usually my type of girl do 0 extra, just because they are beautiful and they don't need to make money.I would like to see one of your girls who work not needing to make money.
I don't agree, Hotels are not expensive may be the famous brands but the 2/3/4 stars in Germany were never so cheap. For example this night in a 4 star near Stuttgart I paid 60 euros including breakfast.You may not agree, but my damn expedia website agree with me for hotel being somehow more expensive now LOL! I wish I agree with you, but numbers I am seeing on expedia is my reality LOL!
Also for airplane, some longer routes are cheaper, but direct and some routes seems to be more expensive than before by quite far! Maybe it is summer and the borders are opening up in Europe!
I will not go to any FKK or meet any prostitute, even I could easily do it. I just I don't want to take any risk. I don t care what the girls need, there are jobs available everywhere in Europe, they don t need to open their holes to earn money.Yeah, I will wait this year maybe too, I went in 2020, so 2021 will be no FKK year for me, but I will fuck Eurasian stunner here beginning this summer and then when winter arrive, I stop mongering again just in case.
It is hard for office workers to get back to norm after remote work of pandemic as office workers were like escaped slave during pandemic feeling the freedom of outside office for significant of time of like a year or more out of office.
Now same goes for FKK girls, they usually have life of dealing with many people all day long from fellow prostitutes that they live together in dormitory, owner of FKK, workers of FKK, authorities of all kind and us mongers demanding to suck dick, eat tongue, eat my anal, want to fuck hard in ass, pinching nipple with teeth, say this while fucking you doggy like I am a dog or whatever. BUT during pandemic, they had a peace for like a year out of inhouse FKK life style that is harsh as I just described.
Now they have to go back to once again FKK life style, it take a courage to do that! I would say FKK girl was toughest when she made decision to walk into such life of FKK getting fucked by 10 different men they just met and in crazy world of mass communication 360 degree all day long everyday, but after this pandemic, it must be hard to go back to this life style after one year of peace back home with some escort here and there, that is more easier mentally and physically.
FKK is heaven for us, but hell for girls who work there, but they remain smiling front of us and most are remaining good hearted, so that make me respect their strength!
Yeah, I can pop onto plane, but somehow it is more expensive for hotel, not so much for flight!Depending on the city, but in general you could essily find three star hotels, pensions in Berlin, NRW area, Franfurt for around EUR60 a day. But most of these hotels are not in the city centres. In other cities such as Munich it will be more expensive.
Sometimes you could find 3-4 star hotels for around EUR90-100. Keep in mind you are only there for a few hours to sleep. You spend most of the hours in FKKs.
I will be in 4-5 stars hotel if I am traveling on business but I will be staying in 3-4 star hotels and spend most of the money for having fun in FKKs when traveling for fun. When we are mongering we do not need amenities such as Swimming pool, Sauna, Gym, Steam room etc.
But of course it will also depend on the demand. When there is a special attraction in the city then the accomodation is in demand. But a monger why shoud avoid travling on thse dates.
Depending on the city, but in general you could essily find three star hotels, pensions in Berlin, NRW area, Franfurt for around EUR60 a day. But most of these hotels are not in the city centres. In other cities such as Munich it will be more expensive.
Sometimes you could find 3-4 star hotels for around EUR90-100. Keep in mind you are only there for a few hours to sleep. You spend most of the hours in FKKs.
I will be in 4-5 stars hotel if I am traveling on business but I will be staying in 3-4 star hotels and spend most of the money for having fun in FKKs when traveling for fun. When we are mongering we do not need amenities such as Swimming pool, Sauna, Gym, Steam room etc.
But of course it will also depend on the demand. When there is a special attraction in the city then the accomodation is in demand. But a monger why shoud avoid travling on thse dates.My strategy is to headquarter at 3-4 star hotels located close to the main hauptbanhof. That way, I have easy access to trains to get around. And if I need to get a taxi, there's always one that can be easily hailed. Also, there tends to be inexpensive places to eat nearby that you can walk to, either at the hauptbanhof itself or close to it. This is how I learned to do after my first trip to Germany where I realized there was room for me to save time and money by improving upon the logistical arrangements of my journey.
Depending on the city, but in general you could essily find three star hotels, pensions in Berlin, NRW area, Franfurt for around EUR60 a day. But most of these hotels are not in the city centres. In other cities such as Munich it will be more expensive.
Sometimes you could find 3-4 star hotels for around EUR90-100. Keep in mind you are only there for a few hours to sleep. You spend most of the hours in FKKs.
I will be in 4-5 stars hotel if I am traveling on business but I will be staying in 3-4 star hotels and spend most of the money for having fun in FKKs when traveling for fun. When we are mongering we do not need amenities such as Swimming pool, Sauna, Gym, Steam room etc.
But of course it will also depend on the demand. When there is a special attraction in the city then the accomodation is in demand. But a monger why shoud avoid travling on thse dates.Beside Berlin, I usually stay around HBF due to accessibility to all FKK, but somehow the prices at this time of pandemic seems more expensive, this according to what I see on damn expedia LOL!
You may not agree, but my damn expedia website agree with me for hotel being somehow more expensive now LOL! I wish I agree with you, but numbers I am seeing on expedia is my reality LOL!
Also for airplane, some longer routes are cheaper, but direct and some routes seems to be more expensive than before by quite far! Maybe it is summer and the borders are opening up in Europe!I've basically lived in hotels this past year doing contract work in various cities. For about 9 months, Hilton and Marriott brand hotels were dirt cheap, offering rates at almost half price and 3-4 x rewards points. Over the last few months, as we have opened, the large brand hotels are even more expensive than they were pre-pandemic. Out of curiosity, I checked the prices in Germany and saw the same trend, although prices did not increase as much as in the USA, yet. But Germany is a few months behind in opening up.
The strange thing however, when I checked using a hotel aggregator (Expedia) for the first time today, Frankfurt had so many small hotels offering very cheap rates. These 3 star hotels were selling for 30-45 USD. I'm guessing maybe it is because these cheaper hotels are usually occupied by migrants and young people. Since those people have yet to return, the rates there are staying pretty cheap.
I've basically lived in hotels this past year doing contract work in various cities. For about 9 months, Hilton and Marriott brand hotels were dirt cheap, offering rates at almost half price and 3-4 x rewards points. Over the last few months, as we have opened, the large brand hotels are even more expensive than they were pre-pandemic. Out of curiosity, I checked the prices in Germany and saw the same trend, although prices did not increase as much as in the USA, yet. But Germany is a few months behind in opening up.
The strange thing however, when I checked using a hotel aggregator (Expedia) for the first time today, Frankfurt had so many small hotels offering very cheap rates. These 3 star hotels were selling for 30-45 USD. I'm guessing maybe it is because these cheaper hotels are usually occupied by migrants and young people. Since those people have yet to return, the rates there are staying pretty cheap.So expedia must be ripping me off then LOL! I quoted the price with airplane and hotel, and it was more expensive by far than usual price range I paid to go to FKK trip, so I checked just plane ticket and that too was by far more expensive beside taking longer root through middle east like Dubai and Qatar! Those flight in contrary was much cheaper!
Well all in all, I won't go due to safety both virus and also the risk of FKK closing again as I do not book in last minute, but I usually book few weeks or a month or two in advance for FKK trip to get myself ready physically and mentally for non stop sex all day trip LOL! I do not like to rush both in room or prior to the actual trip it self!
I think there will be high demand for travelling once all get back to normal as humans love to travel which they could not for past almost two years soon by the time all become normal if it become normal! High demand may cause increase in price or decrease in price is yet to see! Each industry react in different way so!
I do expect to see more stunners in line up to make fast cash after pandemic though, so lets hope so for the line up!
DW reporting tonight that Americans and Canadians are welcome back to DE beginning June 13th. We're back baby!
https://m.dw.com/en/germany-takes-us-canada-off-travel-risk-list-most-others-from-july/a-57851397
DW reporting tonight that Americans and Canadians are welcome back to DE beginning June 13th. We're back baby!
https://m.dw.com/en/germany-takes-us-canada-off-travel-risk-list-most-others-from-july/a-57851397Well, being vaccinated, I am certain that Cane the anal penetrator is on the missile launch pad LOL!
DW reporting tonight that Americans and Canadians are welcome back to DE beginning June 13th. We're back baby!
https://m.dw.com/en/germany-takes-us-canada-off-travel-risk-list-most-others-from-july/a-57851397Mongers are not barbarians, mongers are aid to help those girls in need LOL! We are kind of like faster version of united nations LOL!
Hotel prices has been way low here as well aside from summertime.
But taking summer 2020 into account, it won't surprise me if hotel rooms get more expensive than normal this summer as well given a lot of Europeans has to vacate in their own country or within Europe. And traveling intercontinental will be more difficult than ever. Major travel destinations for Europeans such as Turkey, Dubai, Tunisia or Egypt will be off the board for most. And these are all reachable by cheap short haul flights normally. Even after the EU QR code is live all across Europe by July 2nd at the latest.
Well, being vaccinated, I am certain that Cane the anal penetrator is on the missile launch pad LOL!Banzai! Anal banzai! Hahahaha! But as stated before, The Cane only goes in during the second or even third wave of invasion. Mr. Ho is chosen to go first and lead the initial reconquest. And if he is successful and survives, then The Cane will arrive for the "mopping up operation" LOL!
DW reporting tonight that Americans and Canadians are welcome back to DE beginning June 13th. We're back baby!
https://m.dw.com/en/germany-takes-us-canada-off-travel-risk-list-most-others-from-july/a-57851397No sense going back if FKKs are closed. Even when they reopen I will not return but wait on reports from you guys to see how things are going.
No sense going back if FKKs are closed. Even when they reopen I will not return but wait on reports from you guys to see how things are going.If Samya really reopen, I just need a bit of time for my mind to will to go to make a test before going to brothels, even tests are for free in France, but killing my libido for this week end. For me, going to brothels is not going to hospitals I hate, where You see people You love, dying.
No sense going back if FKKs are closed. Even when they reopen I will not return but wait on reports from you guys to see how things are going.Still hoping that NRW clubs opening back up soon. Price of airline tickets has already doubled, even more. From 500 to 1200 roundtrip, ouch. I guess I'll have to cut down on my duo appointments in the clubs. Is there an ISG thread discussing good methods / apps for finding better airfare?
Banzai! Anal banzai! Hahahaha! But as stated before, The Cane only goes in during the second or even third wave of invasion. Mr. Ho is chosen to go first and lead the initial reconquest. And if he is successful and survives, then The Cane will arrive for the "mopping up operation" LOL!Well I won't bet on me as I will wait till second or third invasion as well as I rather not get shot upon landing LOL!
With what I feel based on what I read, the lineup is there, but not at its full swing is what I feel, but they are coming, so it may be worth going in mid summer, but with this new variant thing is a bit worrying and since we both are veteran and fucked enough stunner for years, let us be at our elevated position and see how it goes before we penetrate into behind the stunner line LOL!
Still hoping that NRW clubs opening back up soon. Price of airline tickets has already doubled, even more. From 500 to 1200 roundtrip, ouch. I guess I'll have to cut down on my duo appointments in the clubs. Is there an ISG thread discussing good methods / apps for finding better airfare?Try taking longer route, I often go through middle east using Qatar airline now due to its cheaper rate, better plane, better food though I don't really eat plane food and also better airport to enjoy the layover to enjoy the local Arabic food at the airport and above all for me it leave at around 11 pm at night, so it is good flight for me to sleep without jetlag! And price often is cheapest for me.
I don't know how it is from USA which I presume you are at? But taking layover flight will dramatically decrease the price and it is not that bad if you enjoy the local food at some layover nation to enjoy different culture a bit! My way of travelling recently and as much as I hate the flight, I love the view of this planet from above, whatta beautiful planet we live in! And once I land, beautiful naked stunner from natures best await for me LOL!
No sense going back if FKKs are closed. Even when they reopen I will not return but wait on reports from you guys to see how things are going.Depending on how far you have to reach out, if it is within few hours driving distance I would go maybe, but for me it is half the way around the world, so it is an event to get there, so I wait till the first trooper to go behind the FKK line and I was hoping that reliable Analist Dr Cane specialize in corn holes going to go, but the Doc is not going on first trooper, so got to wait a bit LOL!
Seriously speaking, with all the hungry mongers all over the FKK, it is not worth going for awhile till dick squad crowd calm down unless you like packed FKK, there maybe some restriction on penis holder entering FKK due to pandemic, but still there will be more penis holder than girls, so let say 2022 will be back to norm for us, and till then I got escort that I will begin to do here for me, well it will be back if Indian variant or whatever variant not going to be spread LOL!
HammerTime96
06-13-21, 16:33
UK's Never Ending Lockdowns = Germany's Never Ending Lockdowns?
https://youtu.be/WTcLk7RRt14
P.S. In Germany the 'Epidemic State of Emergency' ("epidemische Notlage") has been extended this week by the German parliament until the 30th of September 2021, but interestingly enough it's very difficult to quickly find a link in English;.
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/video231747081/Corona-Pandemie-Bundestag-verlaengert-epidemische-Notlage-bis-30-September.html
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/corona-bundestag-epidemische-lage-100.html
ExpatLover
06-13-21, 20:32
I've basically lived in hotels this past year doing contract work in various cities. For about 9 months, Hilton and Marriott brand hotels were dirt cheap, offering rates at almost half price and 3-4 x rewards points. Over the last few months, as we have opened, the large brand hotels are even more expensive than they were pre-pandemic. Out of curiosity, I checked the prices in Germany and saw the same trend, although prices did not increase as much as in the USA, yet. But Germany is a few months behind in opening up.
The strange thing however, when I checked using a hotel aggregator (Expedia) for the first time today, Frankfurt had so many small hotels offering very cheap rates. These 3 star hotels were selling for 30-45 USD. I'm guessing maybe it is because these cheaper hotels are usually occupied by migrants and young people. Since those people have yet to return, the rates there are staying pretty cheap.I am travelling a lot in Germany, the private 3 or 4 stars hotels were never so cheap, and I always go there even I am not a migrant. Always funny to see guys living in 5 stars hotels to be sure it is clean and after going to FKK asking for AO or for kissing a girl who just sucked a dirty dick or licked a dirty asshole.
Carpaccio18
06-13-21, 21:29
Still hoping that NRW clubs opening back up soon. Price of airline tickets has already doubled, even more. From 500 to 1200 roundtrip, ouch. I guess I'll have to cut down on my duo appointments in the clubs. Is there an ISG thread discussing good methods / apps for finding better airfare?Have you tried momondo? Good at scanning many sites even for the same ticket.
UK's Never Ending Lockdowns = Germany's Never Ending Lockdowns?
https://youtu.be/WTcLk7RRt14
P.S. In Germany the 'Epidemic State of Emergency' ("epidemische Notlage") has been extended this week by the German parliament until the 30th of September 2021, but interestingly enough it's very difficult to quickly find a link in English;.
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/video231747081/Corona-Pandemie-Bundestag-verlaengert-epidemische-Notlage-bis-30-September.html
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/corona-bundestag-epidemische-lage-100.htmlWhy is it interesting it's difficult to find information in English? Do you mean that UK media don't care about Germany? They do in their own way, and love to talk about WWII.
As long as this is available in German then the people that really matter can decide. The German voters.
This is still less restrictive than what happens in the UK.
Depending on how far you have to reach out, if it is within few hours driving distance I would go maybe, but for me it is half the way around the world, so it is an event to get there, so I wait till the first trooper to go behind the FKK line and I was hoping that reliable Analist Dr Cane specialize in corn holes going to go, but the Doc is not going on first trooper, so got to wait a bit LOL!
Seriously speaking, with all the hungry mongers all over the FKK, it is not worth going for awhile till dick squad crowd calm down unless you like packed FKK, there maybe some restriction on penis holder entering FKK due to pandemic, but still there will be more penis holder than girls, so let say 2022 will be back to norm for us, and till then I got escort that I will begin to do here for me, well it will be back if Indian variant or whatever variant not going to be spread LOL!Turgid lives in the US from his past comments. Your flight may be a few hours longer but that's about it.
Hotel prices hardly matter. If you normally pay 100 per night but prices are now 150, that's 350 more for a whole week. For any fly in monger that spends 4 to 7 nights on this hobby per trip, I got to imagine that a few hundred more Euros is 5% to 10% of your overall trip budget? And if you are willing to go lower end, you may find some reasonable deals. In any case, these things depend on the exact days of your travel. Prices will likely vary week to week.
Likewise, I would not worry about how many cock blockers will be in the club but would care about # girls and their quality. If the latter are good, even on crowded nights can have a good time. If instead there are just a couple of dozen sad sack girls in a club, no matter how many / few mongers are present it will not do much for me. Then there were some reports about clubs limiting mongers to a few hours per entry, which is absolutely NO / NO for any traveler I assume. I stay 8 to 10 hours at a minimum when I enter a club. Finally, reports of price gouging girls, increased sharkiness, significantly reduced levels of service are all massive turnoffs.
For me, more than anything else, business in the US has to normalize. That means workers back in offices, business travel resuming, conferences and trade shows and having to fly for face to face meetings. I can explain a lot of things at home but not why I am not home. Rushing abroad when many firms are still doing a hybrid model is a disaster for me.
UK's Never Ending Lockdowns = Germany's Never Ending Lockdowns?
https://youtu.be/WTcLk7RRt14
P.S. In Germany the 'Epidemic State of Emergency' ("epidemische Notlage") has been extended this week by the German parliament until the 30th of September 2021, but interestingly enough it's very difficult to quickly find a link in English;.
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/video231747081/Corona-Pandemie-Bundestag-verlaengert-epidemische-Notlage-bis-30-September.html
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/corona-bundestag-epidemische-lage-100.htmlBecause of Indian variants and now some other variants. Western nations tend to be more careless about pandemic that lead to millions of death not even wanting to admit the efficacy of wearing masks for months at government level for few months etc. I think full opening of all business sector or lock down is bit too early, it could go fine, but either way with quite a risk. It is all money first, so it going to go for it anyways, but let see vaccine can beat Indian variants etc.
However, mongers inside of pant is about to explode, so FKK has to open or there will be many inside the pant explosion everywhere LOL! We already have some guys nude on zoom business meeting with colleagues LOL!
Sebastiane
06-14-21, 01:15
It seems Germany and its FKK clubs are slowly opening up. And it also seems most countries' citizens will be allowed to enter from July 1st too. I hope by then even Oase and Palace and Sharks will be open otherwise I guess I will stick to Samya, and the Hamburg clubs.
I am travelling a lot in Germany, the private 3 or 4 stars hotels were never so cheap, and I always go there even I am not a migrant. Always funny to see guys living in 5 stars hotels to be sure it is clean and after going to FKK asking for AO or for kissing a girl who just sucked a dirty dick or licked a dirty asshole.I don't know any club mongers who stay at literal 5 star hotels like LeMeridian / Kempinski when mongering, maybe perhaps if mongering is just one day of many others doing something else. Many stay in 4 star hotels like flagship Hilton / Marriott / Mercure brands, but most of the time, those are business travelers who are expensing it with their companies. The bulk of leisure FKK mongers opt for 3 star hotels or even lower, hotels like InterCity, Best Western, Hilton Garden, Hampton Inn, or local / regional brands.
But the definition of 5-star to 3-star is a bit ambiguous.
Turgid lives in the US from his past comments. Your flight may be a few hours longer but that's about it.
Hotel prices hardly matter. If you normally pay 100 per night but prices are now 150, that's 350 more for a whole week. For any fly in monger that spends 4 to 7 nights on this hobby per trip, I got to imagine that a few hundred more Euros is 5% to 10% of your overall trip budget? And if you are willing to go lower end, you may find some reasonable deals. In any case, these things depend on the exact days of your travel. Prices will likely vary week to week.
Likewise, I would not worry about how many cock blockers will be in the club but would care about # girls and their quality. If the latter are good, even on crowded nights can have a good time. If instead there are just a couple of dozen sad sack girls in a club, no matter how many / few mongers are present it will not do much for me. Then there were some reports about clubs limiting mongers to a few hours per entry, which is absolutely NO / NO for any traveler I assume. I stay 8 to 10 hours at a minimum when I enter a club. Finally, reports of price gouging girls, increased sharkiness, significantly reduced levels of service are all massive turnoffs..It is good that you have not developed what I call, Mongers syndrome.
Mongers syndrome is when you begin to calculate everything based on what you could have get in FKK at its best moment for the prices you pay for anything in your life LOL! For example, price difference of few hundred euro for over all trip maybe just 5 to 10 percentage of over all trip, but I begin to think, "I could have got my anal licked and my dick sucked by adding extra stunner to the session" etc LOL! I do this even when I am buying something in my life, I begin to think I could have done this and that in FKK LOL! My mind is polluted all day long, all around the clock LOL! Mongers syndrome this is!
Yeah, this pandemic affected most areas of industries even FKK girls who had plan in life must have delay their plan for at least 2 years and remember for FKK girls, their clock move faster due to their age limit to be stunner to make money in FKK! And some FKK girls do have plan to save certain amount and do something in life like go to school or open their business. Well some FKK girl like one out of ten LOL!
I think technology helped up to get through this pandemic, but yeah, I get you, we need to have face to face meeting in all business, it is better that way! Like instead of jerking off to porn all the time, it is better to meet face to face in FKK or escort to fuck LOL!
Well no worry buddy, we do begin to see the light at the end of this tunnel now with vaccines and if new variants do not win over the vaccines, it is finally be over soon. And hey, you survived, many people lost job even lost their lives because of that not just because of disease itself. We survive, that is what matter and I as a monger say this, we survive to fuck new young beautiful stunner another day LOL!
Why is it interesting it's difficult to find information in English? Do you mean that UK media don't care about Germany? They do in their own way, and love to talk about WWII.
As long as this is available in German then the people that really matter can decide. The German voters.
This is still less restrictive than what happens in the UK.Germany is the king of EU and Europe, but Germany is also king of brothel LOL! Germany is the hidden PIMP master of Europe LOL!
As serious they maybe, they definitely got the kinky side LOL!
Are you tired of using your right hand?
Well then, fly to Germany, you can fix your issue with 50 euro per 30 min LOL! The Capitalism at its best at German FKK LOL!
But if FKK closes, you may end up using your right hand in hotel room in Germany, so be sure to book room with free WIFI and bring your PC LOL! It is a must set for your travelling at this time of the situation LOL!
HammerTime96
06-14-21, 09:52
Because of Indian variants and now some other variants. !Exactly, with again underscores my theory that by autumn. Early winter (October-November), Germany will be back into a full lockdown and the few FKK clubs that manage to reopen (with a poor line-up and ridiculous social distancing protocols & face diapers) will be forced to close again.
By fall, there will be a 'Timbuctoo variant' or perhaps a variant from Mars, Pluto or Yur-Anus to legitimate more and more lockdowns, LOL!
Mongers be ambitious! Because young stunners beautiful pussies are waiting for you like the fresh oyster on platter LOL! Not with love LOL! But you do what with love situation do for 50 euro per 30 min, 100 euro to enter anal, 50 euro to explode your penis in her mouth LOL! She even lick your anal clean for 50 euro LOL!
From FKK with not Love LOL!
ExpatLover
06-14-21, 18:02
Are you tired of using your right hand?
Well then, fly to Germany, you can fix your issue with 50 euro per 30 min LOL! The Capitalism at its best at German FKK LOL!
But if FKK closes, you may end up using your right hand in hotel room in Germany, so be sure to book room with free WIFI and bring your PC LOL! It is a must set for your travelling at this time of the situation LOL!I don't believe that the FKK will close before end of October or may be never, the circulation of the virus now in Europe is extremely low.
I don't know any club mongers who stay at literal 5 star hotels like LeMeridian / Kempinski when mongering, maybe perhaps if mongering is just one day of many others doing something else. Many stay in 4 star hotels like flagship Hilton / Marriott / Mercure brands, but most of the time, those are business travelers who are expensing it with their companies. The bulk of leisure FKK mongers opt for 3 star hotels or even lower, hotels like InterCity, Best Western, Hilton Garden, Hampton Inn, or local / regional brands.
But the definition of 5-star to 3-star is a bit ambiguous.I sleep few minutes in my Audi office. If electronics is repaired on Friday, I don't know where I will go, but for sure I will go for a speed run, I miss so much, will be maximum attack. Legal in some parts in Germany.
Still hoping that NRW clubs opening back up soon. Price of airline tickets has already doubled, even more. From 500 to 1200 roundtrip, ouch. I guess I'll have to cut down on my duo appointments in the clubs. Is there an ISG thread discussing good methods / apps for finding better airfare?Have you tried https://www.skyscanner.net/.
After you get the list of fligh and price from searching go to individual arielines to refine and narrow your search.
https://www.secretflying.com/ Very rare but if you get one, you will get a really good bargain.
I don't believe that the FKK will close before end of October or may be never, the circulation of the virus now in Europe is extremely low.Yes and no, for example, UK just prolong their restriction that supposed to be taken off on June 21st, so new variants are still at risk and new ones are being born each day for example in Russia, they just reported few new variants they discover. So I would say it is still 50:50.
I like sure thing especially I have to fly over 10 hours!
Exactly, with again underscores my theory that by autumn. Early winter (October-November), Germany will be back into a full lockdown and the few FKK clubs that manage to reopen (with a poor line-up and ridiculous social distancing protocols & face diapers) will be forced to close again.
By fall, there will be a 'Timbuctoo variant' or perhaps a variant from Mars, Pluto or Yur-Anus to legitimate more and more lockdowns, LOL!It is possible as there are few new variants and west do not care about virus again as it is hard citizen to control, European and Americans are just not so disciplined people in general. It is odd virus I must say and I do not believe this is from nature.
Vaccine is very hopeful thing that could get us out of pandemic, but only if human still make effort to restrict their behavior! This require some discipline.
I just do not want to fly there with limited line up and masks on girls face so I cannot see the face well which is so important for me and also end up in hotel with my pc, WIFI and my right hand if FKK closes LOL!
Imagine also that I ask girl to remove the mask so I can see her face and she will be like it is 50 euro LOL!
Turgid lives in the US from his past comments. Your flight may be a few hours longer but that's about it.
Hotel prices hardly matter. If you normally pay 100 per night but prices are now 150, that's 350 more for a whole week. For any fly in monger that spends 4 to 7 nights on this hobby per trip, I got to imagine that a few hundred more Euros is 5% to 10% of your overall trip budget? And if you are willing to go lower end, you may find some reasonable deals. In any case, these things depend on the exact days of your travel. Prices will likely vary week to week....I can obviously only speak for myself but I have saved a lot of money over the past 15 months even though I have been doing escorts. However, my escapades have dramatically declined for this year to the extent that the last girl I banged was exactly one month ago. It seems now the more girls I bang the more I want to bang and the less girls I bang the less I feel like banging. Fifteen months is the longest period I have stayed at home without travelling abroad since I left college and its taking its toll on me. Expatlover will be proud of my celibacy, LOL. Upside is that I do have a lot of disposable income.
I can obviously only speak for myself but I have saved a lot of money over the past 15 months even though I have been doing escorts. However, my escapades have dramatically declined for this year to the extent that the last girl I banged was exactly one month ago. It seems now the more girls I bang the more I want to bang and the less girls I bang the less I feel like banging. Fifteen months is the longest period I have stayed at home without travelling abroad since I left college and its taking its toll on me. Expatlover will be proud of my celibacy, LOL. Upside is that I do have a lot of disposable income.That is not uncommon methinks. I often miss the clubs the most in the immediate week after returning from DE. Not dissimilar to how you might keep gorging after already being satiated and might not feel that hungry after fasting for a while.
I can obviously only speak for myself but I have saved a lot of money over the past 15 months even though I have been doing escorts. However, my escapades have dramatically declined for this year to the extent that the last girl I banged was exactly one month ago. It seems now the more girls I bang the more I want to bang and the less girls I bang the less I feel like banging. Fifteen months is the longest period I have stayed at home without travelling abroad since I left college and its taking its toll on me. Expatlover will be proud of my celibacy, LOL. Upside is that I do have a lot of disposable income.From my FKK land weekly visits, sometimes from Thursday 9.30 pm to Tuesday 1 am and again on next Thursday, I saw so few escorts on 2021, when too many fakes and Ukrainians now touring in Paris are not pretty enough for me, when Russians are blocked at home under covid. When I find a girl I like, then I like to meet her weekly, but when no target, then I can manage easy because I don t miss just sex, I drive many kilometers for much more. I could go to Switzerland or Spain, but I thought not worthing the trip and no hurry to run to return. For sure if electronics work on Friday, then I will go to test new engine, very rigid balance and grip when I missed so much speed, but I don t even know where to go for brothel when I know how it will be complicated for me. Also wish to recover soon, to start my Summer tour, I miss my beloved mountains.
The German forum has reported the reopening of the following small clubs from today or tomorrow:
FKK Villa Venus.
FKK Villa Arabella.
FKK Villa Verena.
FKK Grimbergsauna.
I personally prefer big clubs, but I guess this would be important for the locals and for the small club lovers.
ExpatLover
06-15-21, 12:11
I can obviously only speak for myself but I have saved a lot of money over the past 15 months even though I have been doing escorts. However, my escapades have dramatically declined for this year to the extent that the last girl I banged was exactly one month ago. It seems now the more girls I bang the more I want to bang and the less girls I bang the less I feel like banging. Fifteen months is the longest period I have stayed at home without travelling abroad since I left college and its taking its toll on me. Expatlover will be proud of my celibacy, LOL. Upside is that I do have a lot of disposable income.No I am not proud just because you mix the things, I repeat it again sex is not forbidden, you get have so much sex you want. I am just wondering why some mongers seem to wait desperately the opening of the FKK when they can get sex everywhere for free. During lockdowns the restaurants were closed doesn't mean the people stopped eating and even a lot got better food at home than in most restaurants.
I can obviously only speak for myself but I have saved a lot of money over the past 15 months even though I have been doing escorts. However, my escapades have dramatically declined for this year to the extent that the last girl I banged was exactly one month ago. It seems now the more girls I bang the more I want to bang and the less girls I bang the less I feel like banging. Fifteen months is the longest period I have stayed at home without travelling abroad since I left college and its taking its toll on me. Expatlover will be proud of my celibacy, LOL. Upside is that I do have a lot of disposable income.That money you saved will help so many Romanian girls in need for sure, so fly over and donate your 50 euro to those who will give you ultimate 30 minutes of reciprocation LOL!
A moment of silence for all the mongers making good use of his right hand during the pandemic LOL!
Finding airline tickets on sale certainly turned into finding a needle in a haystack. Seems all tickets have gone up 100% in average from all airline. Some even more than that if the airline got into financial difficulties during the pandemic. Wonder how long this price hike will go on:
Finding airline tickets on sale certainly turned into finding a needle in a haystack. Seems all tickets have gone up 100% in average from all airline. Some even more than that if the airline got into financial difficulties during the pandemic. Wonder how long this price hike will go on:Good amount of that increase is here to stay. At the same time inter continental travel is still halved. Borders need to open fully and demand needs to come back. I follow major us to Europe routes and not only there are fewer flights but they are also running 767 300's in place of 787's. Who knows maybe they revert back to old capacity only next summer.
..... I am just wondering why some mongers seem to wait desperately the opening of the FKK when they can get sex everywhere for free. ...Where I live I can get sex for free but it will necessitate buying a lamborghini and expensive clothes, rolex and shoes and seeking gold diggers. So much easier to wait until Germany and FKKs open.
The German forum has reported the reopening of the following small clubs from today or tomorrow:
FKK Villa Venus.
FKK Villa Arabella.
FKK Villa Verena.
FKK Grimbergsauna.
I personally prefer big clubs, but I guess this would be important for the locals and for the small club lovers.RTC to catch worst than covid. When you go to these clubs, you really don't need to vaccine.
I signed up for Scott's Cheap Flights. I think you put in your departure airport and it'll email you when they see great deals from Google Flights. The deals only last a couple days, but I like the feature. That's when I usually decide when to buy tickets to Germany. I've gotten great deals, as low as $500 round trip nonstop from Western USA to Germany. I think it costs $50 annually, but I save that after one booking.
Last deal was on June 6th and it was non-stop to Frankfurt for $592, for July 2021 through September 2021, and Lufthansa or United. I bought this right away because I figured in August most of the clubs would be open, and if not I'll just change my flight. I have started to use Lufthansa Premium Economy because it includes two checked bags (I bring monitors to work remote Monday and Tuesdays because clubs tend to be dead), seats recline more, they are more comfortable, more points etc. Because it's an overnight flight, I get better sleep in Premium Economy, so I wake up ready to go when I land. I think total was $1,300.
Have found as low as 500 usd? Well, 400-500 usd for an intercontinental round trips europe-usa-europe, or europe-asia-europe was easy pre pandemic. Sometimes I could find bargains at about 300-350 euro round trip. But not now.
ExpatLover
06-15-21, 22:01
Where I live I can get sex for free but it will necessitate buying a lamborghini and expensive clothes, rolex and shoes and seeking gold diggers. So much easier to wait until Germany and FKKs open.I have no lambo, no Rolex but still have very good sex, I don t believe that it is easier to wait the opening of FKK, so much more interesting to improve his own skills and if there will be new lockdowns you will always be able to use them.
I signed up for Scott's Cheap Flights. I think you put in your departure airport and it'll email you when they see great deals from Google Flights. The deals only last a couple days, but I like the feature. That's when I usually decide when to buy tickets to Germany. I've gotten great deals, as low as $500 round trip nonstop from Western USA to Germany. I think it costs $50 annually, but I save that after one booking.
Last deal was on June 6th and it was non-stop to Frankfurt for $592, for July 2021 through September 2021, and Lufthansa or United. I bought this right away because I figured in August most of the clubs would be open, and if not I'll just change my flight. I have started to use Lufthansa Premium Economy because it includes two checked bags (I bring monitors to work remote Monday and Tuesdays because clubs tend to be dead), seats recline more, they are more comfortable, more points etc. Because it's an overnight flight, I get better sleep in Premium Economy, so I wake up ready to go when I land. I think total was $1,300.Thanks for the heads-up, finally some information that I use.
I signed up for Scott's Cheap Flights. I think you put in your departure airport and it'll email you when they see great deals from Google Flights. The deals only last a couple days, but I like the feature. That's when I usually decide when to buy tickets to Germany. I've gotten great deals, as low as $500 round trip nonstop from Western USA to Germany. I think it costs $50 annually, but I save that after one booking.
Last deal was on June 6th and it was non-stop to Frankfurt for $592, for July 2021 through September 2021, and Lufthansa or United. I bought this right away because I figured in August most of the clubs would be open, and if not I'll just change my flight. I have started to use Lufthansa Premium Economy because it includes two checked bags (I bring monitors to work remote Monday and Tuesdays because clubs tend to be dead), seats recline more, they are more comfortable, more points etc. Because it's an overnight flight, I get better sleep in Premium Economy, so I wake up ready to go when I land. I think total was $1,300.By look of it, this scott cheap flights is the site for only US right? As it says pick the airport in USA.
I have no lambo, no Rolex but still have very good sex, I don t believe that it is easier to wait the opening of FKK, so much more interesting to improve his own skills and if there will be new lockdowns you will always be able to use them.You got 50 euro son? I hear there is a promise land called FKK where me love you long time for 30 minutes LOL!
Why do we find stunner of stunner in FKK or tuting else where for rather reasonable price comparison to normal dating world!
Fast cash, yes, this is true! But can't they get another job that is better for them? Yes, they kind of can, may not pay well as tuting, but may lead to future more and much less work and stress and risk of exposure and is stable.
So why tute? Beside cash.
Well, Validation! They think they are beautiful and young and they think it is some kind of commodity that they can only sell during youth and they want to monetize what they are born with called beauty while they are young! If they can monetize it instead of looking at themselves in mirror for self validation or get their friends or BF to say you are beautiful for their own ego, why not go ultimate ego of monetizing their beauty and youth into money if they can do it without people knowing beside us mongers LOL!
This validation and monetization of their beauty turned into ego is the reason why we find oh my gosh I do not believe this girl is tuting in FKK! Kinda level stunner in FKK!
Thanks to girls never ending ego especially stunners and their twisted mind and brain LOL! And thanks to our twisted mind and brain to become flying mongers to go all the way around the world to put our penis into these stunners for our own ego, self esteem and ever lasting memories that we keep forever!
ExpatLover
06-16-21, 07:27
I signed up for Scott's Cheap Flights. I think you put in your departure airport and it'll email you when they see great deals from Google Flights. The deals only last a couple days, but I like the feature. That's when I usually decide when to buy tickets to Germany. I've gotten great deals, as low as $500 round trip nonstop from Western USA to Germany. I think it costs $50 annually, but I save that after one booking.
Last deal was on June 6th and it was non-stop to Frankfurt for $592, for July 2021 through September 2021, and Lufthansa or United. I bought this right away because I figured in August most of the clubs would be open, and if not I'll just change my flight. I have started to use Lufthansa Premium Economy because it includes two checked bags (I bring monitors to work remote Monday and Tuesdays because clubs tend to be dead), seats recline more, they are more comfortable, more points etc. Because it's an overnight flight, I get better sleep in Premium Economy, so I wake up ready to go when I land. I think total was $1,300.I am a little bit surprised that 0 US monger speaks about the exchange rate USD to Euro which in fact will also increase the price for European pussy.
Have found as low as 500 usd? Well, 400-500 usd for an intercontinental round trips europe-usa-europe, or europe-asia-europe was easy pre pandemic. Sometimes I could find bargains at about 300-350 euro round trip. But not now.Europe to Asia return flight for 300 to 350 euro? I begin to think I am getting hacked when I am seeing what I am seeing at Expedia site LOL! Why are my numbers so different to what you are seeing? LOL! I think my expedia site is hacked or yours is hacked LOL!
Europe to Asia return flight for 300 to 350 euro? I begin to think I am getting hacked when I am seeing what I am seeing at Expedia site LOL! Why are my numbers so different to what you are seeing? LOL! I think my expedia site is hacked or yours is hacked LOL!I did say pre pandemic. My first trip to Asia cost me about 250 e return. But that is the cheapest I found ever.
Actually that was just 220 e I see there. But I suppose I did have a short haul or two in addition to those as well.
Yes it was round-trip, from Western USA to Frankfurt and back. The deal on June 6th, 2021, was $592 total round trip.
Have found as low as 500 usd? Well, 400-500 usd for an intercontinental round trips europe-usa-europe, or europe-asia-europe was easy pre pandemic. Sometimes I could find bargains at about 300-350 euro round trip. But not now.
Another trick is to clear all cookies, history, etc. And NEVER EVER visit a travel website not in Private Mode. I found Brave to be the best browser to use, it's chrome based but way better. Make sure to open in Private Viewing eveyr time and DO NOT sign into Kayak until you think you've found the dates you want to travel. I believe Kayak gives better deals if you are signed in, but if signed in they may be tracking your searches. Kayak has a feature to track deals, they also give you recommendations to buy or to wait based on history.
If you use Kayak, they have a +/- 3 or 1 day, or day before, day after feature. This feature enables you to see a variety of days. One thing I noticed in Kayak, is they usually give you the best deals for the exact dates you selected. So if you did +/- 3 days to depart June 4th and return June 18th, the best deals are usually those, but it depends if they have routine flights, etc. Lots and lots of variables. So if you see something close in the table on June 3rd, update your search to June 3rd to June 18th, the price may go down.
Europe to Asia return flight for 300 to 350 euro? I begin to think I am getting hacked when I am seeing what I am seeing at Expedia site LOL! Why are my numbers so different to what you are seeing? LOL! I think my expedia site is hacked or yours is hacked LOL!
Funny you say this, I built an excel spreadsheet where I track days by sleep, work, travel time, work setup, gym time, eating, time at club and time zone differences. The rows are in half hour intervals and columns are days. I then have vlookups for each club and how many hours I'm at the club. Example I put "Sharks" in from 12:00 PM to 8:00 PM that is 8 hours, which would equate to a cost of $575, this $575 is based on a number of room visits plus an average spend, some with / without extras, etc. It will also add 75 Eur multiplied by the exchange rate. Everything is based on the exchange rate, I'll toggle the EUR to USD as the trip approaches.
I then divide my total trip by the number of times I think I will orgasm. Historically I average $200/pop, after flight, hotel, car rental, food, etc...
In my long range forecast I increase the prior year forecast by inflation.
I am a little bit surprised that 0 US monger speaks about the exchange rate USD to Euro which in fact will also increase the price for European pussy.
Smoke Light
06-16-21, 20:35
Yes it was round-trip, from Western USA to Frankfurt and back. The deal on June 6th, 2021, was $592 total round trip.As of today the harsh reality is you still cannot enter Germany unless you are a EU citizen, Schengen citizen, or have proven emergency reasons. I booked today a round trip ticket for $750 from US East coast to FRA and $440 for car rental in FRA through Iceland Air second part of September. The price included extra provision for flexibility in date changes and / or cancellations through this time in 2022.
I need my FKK fix so badly. Meanwhile staying in touch with a couple of girls. Both already working in NRW. God help us.
I am a little bit surprised that 0 US monger speaks about the exchange rate USD to Euro which in fact will also increase the price for European pussy.I have been observing this. The US dollar seems to have taken a tumble with the onset of covid 19. There was some oscillation but I notice it has been on the rise for the month of June. I am hopeful.
I did say pre pandemic. My first trip to Asia cost me about 250 e return. But that is the cheapest I found ever.I am sure it was a cargo class LOL!
Another trick is to clear all cookies, history, etc. And NEVER EVER visit a travel website not in Private Mode. I found Brave to be the best browser to use, it's chrome based but way better. Make sure to open in Private Viewing eveyr time and DO NOT sign into Kayak until you think you've found the dates you want to travel. I believe Kayak gives better deals if you are signed in, but if signed in they may be tracking your searches. Kayak has a feature to track deals, they also give you recommendations to buy or to wait based on history.
If you use Kayak, they have a +/- 3 or 1 day, or day before, day after feature. This feature enables you to see a variety of days. One thing I noticed in Kayak, is they usually give you the best deals for the exact dates you selected. So if you did +/- 3 days to depart June 4th and return June 18th, the best deals are usually those, but it depends if they have routine flights, etc. Lots and lots of variables. So if you see something close in the table on June 3rd, update your search to June 3rd to June 18th, the price may go down.Yes, they must know that via monitoring my searches that my purpose to visit Germany or Zurich is mongering and thus far decided to rip me off knowing I have to get there LOL!
What is private mode or viewing? And cancel all cookies? You think those travel sites are that slimy to change the prices depending on what you have been purchasing for how much etc? If so I be damned and congress should cut into this insanity of surveillance style hustling of IT companies LOL! We got voyeur in FKK, but we got voyeur already at travelling phase of our mongering LOL!
Another trick is to clear all cookies, history, etc. And NEVER EVER visit a travel website not in Private Mode. I found Brave to be the best browser to use, it's chrome based but way better. Make sure to open in Private Viewing eveyr time and DO NOT sign into Kayak until you think you've found the dates you want to travel. I believe Kayak gives better deals if you are signed in, but if signed in they may be tracking your searches. Kayak has a feature to track deals, they also give you recommendations to buy or to wait based on history.
If you use Kayak, they have a +/- 3 or 1 day, or day before, day after feature. This feature enables you to see a variety of days. One thing I noticed in Kayak, is they usually give you the best deals for the exact dates you selected. So if you did +/- 3 days to depart June 4th and return June 18th, the best deals are usually those, but it depends if they have routine flights, etc. Lots and lots of variables. So if you see something close in the table on June 3rd, update your search to June 3rd to June 18th, the price may go down.I got to know about Kayak and try playing around with it, thanks and compared to expedia for price. Man, I think each country do differ, but kayak price offer to German cities costed almost double comparison to expedia!
It is not looking good for expedia now for their price offer beside middle east route, I found few flight via Dubai or Qatar and hotel for 5 nights at 3 to 4 star hotel for about 1000 usd all together if flying economy, but that via middle east airports, through other route or direct it is like plus about 1000 usd on top of that 1000 usd! Crazy! But Dubai and Qatar route seems cheap comparison to pre corona, but others are nightmare prices now!
Anyways, with the FKK situation being unstable, it is too risky for me to fly to Germany and turn my status of flying monger into flying wanker in hotel room with my pc, WIFI and my right hand with FKK being closed LOL! I be like what am I going to do? LOL! All the way to Germany to jerk off LOL!
I've read it on travel website to search in private mode. I even tested it on my work computer and personal computer, one without and the other with. I did notice a price difference.
Brave Private Mode / Incognito (https://brave.com/learn/incognito-mode-ip/).
Brave offers users two alternatives to Chrome's Incognito mode. Private Windows will clear your cookies and saved site data at the end of every session, just like Incognito mode. Private Windows with Tor routes your normal Internet connection through the Tor network, in which each step is kept anonymous. Private Window with Tor makes it extremely difficult for anyone to track your IP, giving you a truly private browsing experience. Incognito mode doesn't hide your IP, but Brave's Private Window with Tor does.
Yes, they must know that via monitoring my searches that my purpose to visit Germany or Zurich is mongering and thus far decided to rip me off knowing I have to get there LOL!
What is private mode or viewing? And cancel all cookies? You think those travel sites are that slimy to change the prices depending on what you have been purchasing for how much etc? If so I be damned and congress should cut into this insanity of surveillance style hustling of IT companies LOL! We got voyeur in FKK, but we got voyeur already at travelling phase of our mongering LOL!
I've read it on travel website to search in private mode. I even tested it on my work computer and personal computer, one without and the other with. I did notice a price difference.
Brave Private Mode / Incognito (https://brave.com/learn/incognito-mode-ip/).
Brave offers users two alternatives to Chrome's Incognito mode. Private Windows will clear your cookies and saved site data at the end of every session, just like Incognito mode. Private Windows with Tor routes your normal Internet connection through the Tor network, in which each step is kept anonymous. Private Window with Tor makes it extremely difficult for anyone to track your IP, giving you a truly private browsing experience. Incognito mode doesn't hide your IP, but Brave's Private Window with Tor does.So voyeurism has extend themselves from FKK to our at home internet surfing experiences LOL! Crazy world adjusting the prices based on what you search online or paid for before online and so on! Next time I am in FKK, when girls try to upsell me, I tell them that I cancelled all my cookies and I am on my private mode LOL Or I tell her try again, my online voyeurs do better than that LOL!
I played around with Kayak etc, Expedia works the best here for prices! But I hope expedia do install this plus 2, 3 days feature as I know what that is and it is handy if there are some price difference between few days of dept or arrival because I am quite flexible for my dates of travelling!
Also I checked before if air be and be will be better pricing that hotels, nope! It cost more or the same with extra hassle!
ExpatLover
06-17-21, 06:32
Yes, they must know that via monitoring my searches that my purpose to visit Germany or Zurich is mongering and thus far decided to rip me off knowing I have to get there LOL!
What is private mode or viewing? And cancel all cookies? You think those travel sites are that slimy to change the prices depending on what you have been purchasing for how much etc? If so I be damned and congress should cut into this insanity of surveillance style hustling of IT companies LOL! We got voyeur in FKK, but we got voyeur already at travelling phase of our mongering LOL!They track your IP address and when you several times ask for the same flight they will increase the prices, you can use another computer. Nobody in a plane is paying the same price, they have very sophisticated software.
I am sure it was a cargo class LOL!Not at all. Both flights included meals and the standard. Actually on the Blue Panorama (this company has gone bankrupt by the way) the Italian guy sitting next to me got his ticket one way for just 65 e I recall he showed me. So I was getting scammed a bit there.
Europe to Asia return flight for 300 to 350 euro? I begin to think I am getting hacked when I am seeing what I am seeing at Expedia site LOL! Why are my numbers so different to what you are seeing? LOL! I think my expedia site is hacked or yours is hacked LOL!No, you are right. 300-350 roundtrip to and from Europe from any destination outside of Europe would be a great deal and certainly not the norm whether pre or post pandemic. Any intercontinental travel for less than 1000 usd is a good deal at the moment. Once number of flights are increased, the prices should stabilize. If cost is a concern, wait it out, stay in Japan until after the Olympics. Number of Flights will increase once EU finalize the travel requirements. After that, flight prices will decline. That's plenty of time for Europe to work out the kinks in travel restriction. Just keep in mind that in August, which is a heavy holiday month for Europeans, prices are inflated just like any other year.
I have no lambo, no Rolex but still have very good sex....If I could get very good sex for free I would never have visited FKKs or even be on ISG.
I am a little bit surprised that 0 US monger speaks about the exchange rate USD to Euro which in fact will also increase the price for European pussy.Dollar is now starting to appreciate v Euro.
Here is what I said a few weeks ago.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4160-Rants-and-WTF-are-you-talking-about-and-Coronavirus!&p=2562211&viewfull=1#post2562211.
"Personally, the market will snap at some point. Any business owner can tell you it is so tough to hire people these days. Inflation is creeping up quite fast. We will see how long the Fed will stay on this route. If / when Fed breaks their resolve and signal they will let go of the easy policy, dollar will rise sharp v other currencies."
Yesterday, they did surprise the markets a little by pulling in their prior timelines. And markets are always anticipatory; after Euro appreciated to 1.225 to the dollar by May 25, it has been sliding and now at 1.193.
If I could get very good sex for free I would never have visited FKKs or even be on ISG.And not only that, but how many guys do you think are fucking multiple attractive girls, day after day like a monger does, totally for free? Maybe only some rock star or other popular celebrity can do that, but that's it! I like fucking 2 to 3 different young ladies I find attractive, day after day, and virtually nobody living on this planet is going to be doing that for free. Especially in the ass LOLOLOL!
ExpatLover
06-17-21, 15:58
Dollar is now starting to appreciate v Euro.
Here is what I said a few weeks ago.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4160-Rants-and-WTF-are-you-talking-about-and-Coronavirus!&p=2562211&viewfull=1#post2562211.
"Personally, the market will snap at some point. Any business owner can tell you it is so tough to hire people these days. Inflation is creeping up quite fast. We will see how long the Fed will stay on this route. If / when Fed breaks their resolve and signal they will let go of the easy policy, dollar will rise sharp v other currencies."
Yesterday, they did surprise the markets a little by pulling in their prior timelines. And markets are always anticipatory; after Euro appreciated to 1.225 to the dollar by May 25, it has been sliding and now at 1.193.Your scenario could be the right one, but there are also the huge amounts of debt which were accumulated by the US and the European countries since 2008, I am wondering how this can impact the value of the USD and Euro in the future.
SobeLizard
06-17-21, 18:21
3 pennies.
I guess I'll buy 1/10th of a donut with the bread crumbs saved.
Dollar is now starting to appreciate v Euro.
Here is what I said a few weeks ago.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4160-Rants-and-WTF-are-you-talking-about-and-Coronavirus!&p=2562211&viewfull=1#post2562211.
"Personally, the market will snap at some point. Any business owner can tell you it is so tough to hire people these days. Inflation is creeping up quite fast. We will see how long the Fed will stay on this route. If / when Fed breaks their resolve and signal they will let go of the easy policy, dollar will rise sharp v other currencies."
Yesterday, they did surprise the markets a little by pulling in their prior timelines. And markets are always anticipatory; after Euro appreciated to 1.225 to the dollar by May 25, it has been sliding and now at 1.193.
They track your IP address and when you several times ask for the same flight they will increase the prices, you can use another computer. Nobody in a plane is paying the same price, they have very sophisticated software.Yeah, I know that we all pay different price, I got great price before, but not for 300 usd round trip LOL! But freaky world we live in now isn't it? As I write this now, they are seeing me LOL! Well as freaky as they are, they cannot denounce us mongers LOL!
No, you are right. 300-350 roundtrip to and from Europe from any destination outside of Europe would be a great deal and certainly not the norm whether pre or post pandemic. Any intercontinental travel for less than 1000 usd is a good deal at the moment. Once number of flights are increased, the prices should stabilize. If cost is a concern, wait it out, stay in Japan until after the Olympics. Number of Flights will increase once EU finalize the travel requirements. After that, flight prices will decline. That's plenty of time for Europe to work out the kinks in travel restriction. Just keep in mind that in August, which is a heavy holiday month for Europeans, prices are inflated just like any other year.I often play around with expedia to just to see the site, to have data in my head for the price range I should pay for to go. The cheapest I saw for Tokyo Frankfurt was 750 USD via one stop through middle east, it was qatar. Other usual cheap fare is like around 850. Usually I pay about 1100 usd for 5 night hotel stay and plane fare when I fly economy which I often do. Used to fly business at the beginning of my FKK trip, but once I develop FKK veteran syndrome of calculating everything in life based on what I could have got in FKK for such and such price, I began flying economy most of time to goto FKK LOL! So I am on the pane like oh I got so many blowjobs right now, Oh another hour pass another blow job etc LOL!
I saw good deal now via qatar to frankfurt, not to Zurich, somehow to Berlin and to Zurich is more expensive by quite far comparison to going to frankfurt, I think frankfurt is big hub airport, so its cheaper! Before Berlin was cheap to back in early 2010, same price as frankfurt, but at one point, Berlin became same price to go as zurich! Got poppular I guess by normal tourist!
Not at all. Both flights included meals and the standard. Actually on the Blue Panorama (this company has gone bankrupt by the way) the Italian guy sitting next to me got his ticket one way for just 65 e I recall he showed me. So I was getting scammed a bit there.So it is like easyjet style, when I lived in Switzerland, it costed about 200 euro back then to go to London, but you could get ticket for 50 euro or even less if booked at the right timing with right date of travelling, so I guess it became like that with some airlines during pandemic!
No, you are right. 300-350 roundtrip to and from Europe from any destination outside of Europe would be a great deal and certainly not the norm whether pre or post pandemic. Any intercontinental travel for less than 1000 usd is a good deal at the moment. Once number of flights are increased, the prices should stabilize. If cost is a concern, wait it out, stay in Japan until after the Olympics. Number of Flights will increase once EU finalize the travel requirements. After that, flight prices will decline. That's plenty of time for Europe to work out the kinks in travel restriction. Just keep in mind that in August, which is a heavy holiday month for Europeans, prices are inflated just like any other year.Secretflying is still able to find deals: August 29th to September 5th, $385, NYC to Berlin. I clicked on the link which did a fresh search on Skyscanner for aforementioned dates. Then was shown ten deals, the cheapest of which was with gotogate. Flexible ticket was $454. Two hour layover in Oslo inbound. Overnight in Stockholm outbound.
Deal was posted on 16th. If you click on the deal in a few days, price could easily be much higher: https://www.secretflying.com/search2/?cityFrom=USA&cityTo=Europe&month=.
3 pennies.
I guess I'll buy 1/10th of a donut with the bread crumbs saved.If your budget was one Euro, yeah I can see how you feel that way.
Had you converted $10 grand instead, relative to a few weeks ago, you would have almost 220 E more. That amount would fetch you another half hour with an Asian hunter, may be even a tongue kiss if you were nice LOL.
Seriously, 2.7% is a sizable movement for such liquid currencies in a month. FX traders, had they guessed this right, could have made millions or several dozens millions with the right bets.
And not only that, but how many guys do you think are fucking multiple attractive girls, day after day like a monger does, totally for free? Maybe only some rock star or other popular celebrity can do that, but that's it! I like fucking 2 to 3 different young ladies I find attractive, day after day, and virtually nobody living on this planet is going to be doing that for free. Especially in the ass LOLOLOL!Wise and well said as usual, it is rational and it is the fact, but the most agreeable part is especially in the ass LOL Yes, especially in the anal few times per day with different girls can be hard task even for a guy who looks like Brad pitt or even himself without paying big consequences if he get caught doing it like his career and millions LOL!
But you get away with it for extra 100 euro on top of 50 euro per 30 min LOL! That is what I call Anal Arbitrage LOL! You got that hustle going on there LOL Hustle for the anals LOL!
Like 50 cent, if I were to become a monger rapper, I call myself 50 Euro LOL!
Smoke Light
06-18-21, 03:58
And not only that, but how many guys do you think are fucking multiple attractive girls, day after day like a monger does, totally for free? Maybe only some rock star or other popular celebrity can do that, but that's it! I like fucking 2 to 3 different young ladies I find attractive, day after day, and virtually nobody living on this planet is going to be doing that for free. Especially in the ass LOLOLOL!Well said, and my orgasms with FKK girls are much stronger and more delightful than I ever had with any civilians. Variety of girls, positions, options, different club atmosphere in the morning, evening, late night. It's worth every penny I ever spent in FKK. I love prostitutes, they love my money, our bond is forever strong, yay!
So it is like easyjet style, when I lived in Switzerland, it costed about 200 euro back then to go to London, but you could get ticket for 50 euro or even less if booked at the right timing with right date of travelling, so I guess it became like that with some airlines during pandemic!I've actually never flown with easyJet. Or maybe once I did, but kinda forgotten about it.
This was in 2009 though, so not during a plandemic at all. But Blue Panorama soon went under. They were nothing like EasyJet, but a good Italian airline mainly for tourists and charters. Neither is AirAsia who has multiple times won good airline food price. Though it is a budget airline. They also stopped their long haul flights at around 2021. Norwegian airline and some Icelandic airline picked up the ball in later years though. But the whole pandemic has cut them short as well. But I am sure someone will try out budget long haul going forward too. Or one can get lucky as I was with Blue Panorama that one time. Or the ME carriers or some Chinese airline may get state help to drive down costs and have people transit in their airports. Which has happened multiple times in the past 12 years as well. I once flew with Qatar airline return to Asia for about 400 euro. And they've been 1# at Skytrax. So it doesn't have be a cheap airline at all!
Secretflying is still able to find deals: August 29th to September 5th, $385, NYC to Berlin. I clicked on the link which did a fresh search on Skyscanner for aforementioned dates. Then was shown ten deals, the cheapest of which was with gotogate. Flexible ticket was $454. Two hour layover in Oslo inbound. Overnight in Stockholm outbound.
Deal was posted on 16th. If you click on the deal in a few days, price could easily be much higher: https://www.secretflying.com/search2/?cityFrom=USA&cityTo=Europe&month=.Yes, of course you can find deals. I was just commenting on normal pricing. 1000 USD is an average fare for most US or Asian travel to Europe. My personal average is probably around 700-800 USD but I am a bargain hunter. The cheapest I've ever flown was 350 USD round trip from Frankfurt to the East Coast of the US. That is basically the absolute lowest price, give or take 50 bucks depending on the airport. What I mean is that when I looked at my price breakdown for my 350 USD ticket, over 300 was for airport taxes and fees. The ticket price itself that went to Delta was something around 45 USD. After covering operation costs of meals, amenities, fuel, and staff pay, I'm not sure Delta even turned a $1 profit on my ticket. At best, my ticket helped contributed to paying for a liter of Jet fuel.
I've been tracking airline aggregators and Delta's website itself and prices dropped today. Yesterday, I did not see a single direct flight from my city to FRA. Today, one popped up for less 900 USD. That must be good news as airlines must be continuously adding flights based on re-opening predictions. The good news is that they don't seem to be price gouging. Bad news is that with less flights, it's harder to find those super cheap deals that combine legs from various routes.
Well said, and my orgasms with FKK girls are much stronger and more delightful than I ever had with any civilians. Variety of girls, positions, options, different club atmosphere in the morning, evening, late night. It's worth every penny I ever spent in FKK. I love prostitutes, they love my money, our bond is forever strong, yay!A monger loves tutes and a tute loves mongers (or at least their money anyway)! LOL! Monger on!
Wise and well said as usual, it is rational and it is the fact, but the most agreeable part is especially in the ass LOL Yes, especially in the anal few times per day with different girls can be hard task even for a guy who looks like Brad pitt or even himself without paying big consequences if he get caught doing it like his career and millions LOL! But you get away with it for extra 100 euro on top of 50 euro per 30 min LOL! That is what I call Anal Arbitrage LOL! You got that hustle going on there LOL Hustle for the anals LOL! Like 50 cent, if I were to become a monger rapper, I call myself 50 Euro LOL!Oh man you guys are killing me! You're killing me over here! Call yourself "50 Euro"! Oh man that is too funny LOLOLOL! Hey, you know "Vlad the Impaler" no? I bet a part of that name comes from what he did to his Romanian women up the butt too hahaha! Gives me inspiration to adopt the nickname "Cane the Penetrator"! LOLOLOL!
Oh man you guys are killing me! You're killing me over here! Call yourself "50 Euro"! Oh man that is too funny LOLOLOL! Hey, you know "Vlad the Impaler" no? I bet a part of that name comes from what he did to his Romanian women up the butt too hahaha! Gives me inspiration to adopt the nickname "Cane the Penetrator"! LOLOLOL!https://www.thedailybeast.com/rimming-was-everywhere-in-the-middle-ages-but-not-for-the-reason-you-think
Oh man you guys are killing me! You're killing me over here! Call yourself "50 Euro"! Oh man that is too funny LOLOLOL! Hey, you know "Vlad the Impaler" no? I bet a part of that name comes from what he did to his Romanian women up the butt too hahaha! Gives me inspiration to adopt the nickname "Cane the Penetrator"! LOLOLOL!No, you are "the Dr Cane the Analist AKA the Anal Penetrator" LOL! The, not the LOL!
Yeah, next time I am at the German passport control or Zurich one, I hand over my passport with my name on it and tell them I'm Dr Ho AKA 50 Euro LOL!
But seriously man, how advance mongering part of the society is to give us the experience you would get as the results of you courting girls dinner after dinner, presents after presents, flower after flower, bullshit you have to tell her to suck up to her to just get sex for just 50 euro! I mean it cost monger just 50 euro! After I found FKK and what I can find in there, a lot of things what society tells me lost all its meaning as I be like, yeah but I get that 50 euro LOL! I just cannot say it, but here, but yeah I get that for 50 Euro LOL!
Air Europa: NY. Lisbon two-way flight for 285 usd. Came up as a deal today apparently!
You can probably find it yourself also, but just in case some are scared of clicking links here.
For tutes, mongers are organic ATM machine with penis LOL!
But this organic ATM machine demand and command to tutes if she want to take the money out of this organic ATM machine LOL!
Very precise assessment LOL!
I have been like 10+ times in Asia and never paid over 500 e return between Europe and Asia. Even including 1 extra short haul in Europe, and occasionally also one in Asia. And as I recall it pre pandemic from 2008 to 2015 every single time I searched I always found deals that cheap. Maybe except for July and December months.
Well said, and my orgasms with FKK girls are much stronger and more delightful than I ever had with any civilians. Variety of girls, positions, options, different club atmosphere in the morning, evening, late night. It's worth every penny I ever spent in FKK. I love prostitutes, they love my money, our bond is forever strong, yay!My best orgasms are in my brain, reason why I need woman images, when most FKK girls tell: You finish? You make no noise, we don t know what You feel, and when I remember so noisy original at LR, we laughed a lot with my regular about so noisy, no noise for me and I like to keep on fucking when really sensitive just after cumming, when most girls are lost, not even feeling cumming. Noisy moanings girls are mostly fake, some using to excite themselves to get more wet vagina. When girls wait for orgasm, then most just close eyes and breathe deeply, with no noise until explosion, usually secretions telling: it s coming. I love girls who make honey, some are really tasty, when super sexy milky skin ginger can be bitter. Some refuse to still deeply kiss after You drank them, when I tell them: but this is You, but their own vagina from where they should make babies, seem dirty for them, self image problem, often hidden by tattoos, silicon, heavy make up like a stolen car.
I have been like 10+ times in Asia and never paid over 500 e return between Europe and Asia. Even including 1 extra short haul in Europe, and occasionally also one in Asia. And as I recall it pre pandemic from 2008 to 2015 every single time I searched I always found deals that cheap. Maybe except for July and December months.This AI seems to favor you more than me visiting expedia LOL! I have seen about 750 usd via Qatar or Dubai to Europe though, but just plane ticket, without hotel!
This AI seems to favor you more than me visiting expedia LOL! I have seen about 750 usd via Qatar or Dubai to Europe though, but just plane ticket, without hotel!It's called selection bias. He only looks at the cheap rates and forgets about the other days in the year when the rates are above his budget. Like you, my average rate is 700-800. I'm sure we've both seen lower and I certainly have paid for higher. Most travelers don't have the luxury of selecting the cheapest prices offered because they can't be as flexible with their dates of travel as a monger just looking for 5 days with hookers. When non-mongering peers have a specific window for travel, I'm sure they are paying higher rates than me on my mongering "schedule". When prices are double what I normally pay, I just don't go or look for other dates. When a family of four has 10 day window to travel, they'll likely end up paying whatever they can afford in order to fit it in their schedule.
On all my transcontinental travels I stayed for 3-6 weeks. So hardly not 5 days. I did say I ruled out July and December. And true, I also ruled out one or two days a week. Since there is a weekly circle in flight prices also. And lastly I never used Expedia. That search engine it terrible. Actually most search engines are and the cheapest carriers sometimes save money by staying away from this entire flight search engine thing. So I usually go directly to the carriers websites. It just requires a bit more knowledge on who flies where.
Not being a slave to one's boss, or being your own boss also helps in scheduling.
On all my transcontinental travels I stayed for 3-6 weeks. So hardly not 5 days. I did say I ruled out July and December. And true, I also ruled out one or two days a week. Since there is a weekly circle in flight prices also. And lastly I never used Expedia. That search engine it terrible. Actually most search engines are and the cheapest carriers sometimes save money by staying away from this entire flight search engine thing. So I usually go directly to the carriers websites. It just requires a bit more knowledge on who flies where.But even when you spend 200 days in FKK, but ghosts in FKK want to explain you. A bit like a Asian with his size explaining you how to manage with Caucasian girls. Maybe for Geisha.
Not being a slave to one's boss, or being your own boss also helps in scheduling.But wait. You're an office employee who hasn't been to Asia since 2015.
But even when you spend 200 days in FKK, but ghosts in FKK want to explain you. A bit like a Asian with his size explaining you how to manage with Caucasian girls. Maybe for Geisha.Not sure I understood this comment.
It's called selection bias. He only looks at the cheap rates and forgets about the other days in the year when the rates are above his budget. Like you, my average rate is 700-800. I'm sure we've both seen lower and I certainly have paid for higher. Most travelers don't have the luxury of selecting the cheapest prices offered because they can't be as flexible with their dates of travel as a monger just looking for 5 days with hookers. When non-mongering peers have a specific window for travel, I'm sure they are paying higher rates than me on my mongering "schedule". When prices are double what I normally pay, I just don't go or look for other dates. When a family of four has 10 day window to travel, they'll likely end up paying whatever they can afford in order to fit it in their schedule.Yeah, just like in FKK, some day you win, some day you lose, but I always manage to find the stunner and fuck her good and hardcore LOL!
Frankfurt always seems to be the cheapest in most cases, I am guessing it is because it is one of the main hub airport of all Europe, so many traffic that lead to cheaper price, big and good airport too.
I wonder how new airport just opened finally in Berlin will be, but I will always miss my tegel airport flight, I flew through tegel the last time in 2019 as I was going to Bodrum, that was my last tegel experience!
Not being a slave to one's boss, or being your own boss also helps in scheduling.Well we have many mongers here who are slave, toy and blind idiot to prostitutes in FKK thinking they are special because prostitute cancel other client to have session with him etc. No, prostitutes did not cancel other client to be with such monger, she just say that to him knowing it push his internal returning button, so he comes back to her as a blind idiot naive client LOL! Such a sad case of naive monger in FKK also thinking driving distance to FKK make prostitutes appreciate him LOL! Such mentality of monger comes from his naive upbringing and sad private life LOL!
Buying among the best moment of her life which is her youth is what mongers buy because most stunner I fuck is around age 20 to 25, then I do not deal with her anymore once I fucked her hardcore to the core beyond ones imagination and yes as some wise monger mentioned that I also strongly agree with. I also partly pay them to leave me the fuck alone once I am done fucking her hardcore LOL! Some of us monger take the first night of the honeymoon sex out of these stunner young girls, then manage to dump them without any problems after LOL!
Whatta great thing capitalism is LOL! For 50 euro for 30 min, we get the best memories for life LOL! We get away with doing crazy shit with these stunners among the best moment of her life as far as her beauty level goes LOL!
We taste the best moment, leave the rest for the other sorry us men who get to fuck her in her 30's with mediocre sex as they cannot rough her up LOL!
50 Euro!
Well we have many mongers here who are slave, toy and blind idiot to prostitutes in FKK thinking they are special because prostitute cancel other client to have session with him etc. No, prostitutes did not cancel other client to be with such monger, she just say that to him knowing it push his internal returning button, so he comes back to her as a blind idiot naive client LOL! Such a sad case of naive monger in FKK also thinking driving distance to FKK make prostitutes appreciate him LOL! Such mentality of monger comes from his naive upbringing and sad private life LOL!I would consider the source of the statement. Escaping job slavery is a sentiment that many dream of but don't have the balls to actually go out and do it. As for hooker slavery, nothing says "I own you" more than a hooker having her name tattoo'd on a monger's foot.
ExpatLover
06-20-21, 18:15
Buying among the best moment of her life which is her youth is what mongers buy because most stunner I fuck is around age 20 to 25, then I do not deal with her anymore once I fucked her hardcore to the core beyond ones imagination and yes as some wise monger mentioned that I also strongly agree with. I also partly pay them to leave me the fuck alone once I am done fucking her hardcore LOL! Some of us monger take the first night of the honeymoon sex out of these stunner young girls, then manage to dump them without any problems after LOL!
Whatta great thing capitalism is LOL! For 50 euro for 30 min, we get the best memories for life LOL! We get away with doing crazy shit with these stunners among the best moment of her life as far as her beauty level goes LOL!
We taste the best moment, leave the rest for the other sorry us men who get to fuck her in her 30's with mediocre sex as they cannot rough her up LOL!
50 Euro!My best memories in life are not with a prostitute and from far, how many from those girls you fucked in the ass or they licked your asshole do you have the real name, phone number, address. ? How many you have still contact even they quit the job? I think we should keep the things on the right place, fucking prostitutes is not a performance and at least I am not proud of it. How many mongers were able to fuck in a FKK for free?
My best memories in life are not with a prostitute and from far, how many from those girls you fucked in the ass or they licked your asshole do you have the real name, phone number, address. ? How many you have still contact even they quit the job? I think we should keep the things on the right place, fucking prostitutes is not a performance and at least I am not proud of it. How many mongers were able to fuck in a FKK for free?I can only agree for this. Real life is much more important than FKK game. Good game as say British when they win, when Germans don't anymore always win at the end now. Since 1998, France is not anymore afraid of Manchaft.
Carpaccio18
06-20-21, 22:32
My best memories in life are not with a prostitute and from far, how many from those girls you fucked in the ass or they licked your asshole do you have the real name, phone number, address. ? How many you have still contact even they quit the job? I think we should keep the things on the right place, fucking prostitutes is not a performance and at least I am not proud of it. How many mongers were able to fuck in a FKK for free?You keep confusing mongering with dating. Its two entirely different things which are not related. One does not replace the other and vice versa. If you don't understand the difference, please just memorize it.
The WGs don't have sex with you because youre the greatest stud ever or they have the hots for you and want an orgasm. Its a business transaction, you pay, they fuck your brains out whatever way you want them to and is willing to pay for. Your fantasies, your pick of hot body, whatever.
She may make you think you're the best she ever had, if she is good at her job, but don't think you're on a date.
Some mongers like to repeat and build some sort of connection. But I bet in that in most cases the WG will see that as no more than a steady income. Sure they will appriciate guys that treat them nicely (as anyone should do), have a few laughs, but its still not a date.
If you have such a big problem with mongering, don't want to fuck women after others guys have been there and from your other post seem to be almost ashamed it, you know what? Just stop, see a shrink, whatever dude.
My best memories in life are not with a prostitute and from far, how many from those girls you fucked in the ass or they licked your asshole do you have the real name, phone number, address. ? How many you have still contact even they quit the job? I think we should keep the things on the right place, fucking prostitutes is not a performance and at least I am not proud of it. How many mongers were able to fuck in a FKK for free?Me too actually, but this is sex forum as many of forum posters told you before and I am not going to share my private life here, but mongering.
That said, I must admit, some of these FKK girls and escort girls did give me life long memories for me to remember, they were that good and I have zero regret that I turned monger and I will be monger for life, the difference is I do it better than most from stand point of quality of girls and sex and as for fuck in FKK for free? What are you talking about? LOL It is business establishment, in business you are charged money LOL! Do you know that or are you communist or what?
As for free fuck, I kind of got that once as I mentioned before in GT, I brought weed just one gram for a stunner as she told me she did not have time to get out to buy it and she run out of weed day before, so next day, I went to venlo to buy it for me and had 5 gram, so I gave it to her, she asked me how much she should pay me, and man it is like 10 euro worth of weed, it is one gram, so I said, consider it as a gift, then some time later like 10 or 20 min, she came up to me and offer me 30 min session for kinda free to show appreciation, and it was amazing session to remember, but man! FKK is brothel, it is never free! Are you ok man?
I would consider the source of the statement. Escaping job slavery is a sentiment that many dream of but don't have the balls to actually go out and do it. As for hooker slavery, nothing says "I own you" more than a hooker having her name tattoo'd on a monger's foot.Well I keep mongering simple, it is for my lust and turn every men's dream into reality, as cane said, how many men in this world can fuck few stunners different ones in one day one after another as you wish day after day? Only possible with mongering! Even with mongering you need info to know where to go and in some nations you need good contact! I got both!
You keep confusing mongering with dating. Its two entirely different things which are not related. One does not replace the other and vice versa. If you don't understand the difference, please just memorize it.
The WGs don't have sex with you because youre the greatest stud ever or they have the hots for you and want an orgasm. Its a business transaction, you pay, they fuck your brains out whatever way you want them to and is willing to pay for. Your fantasies, your pick of hot body, whatever.
She may make you think you're the best she ever had, if she is good at her job, but don't think you're on a date.
Some mongers like to repeat and build some sort of connection. But I bet in that in most cases the WG will see that as no more than a steady income. Sure they will appriciate guys that treat them nicely (as anyone should do), have a few laughs, but its still not a date.
If you have such a big problem with mongering, don't want to fuck women after others guys have been there and from your other post seem to be almost ashamed it, you know what? Just stop, see a shrink, whatever dude.Yeah it's weird that this guy comments daily on so many FKK boards but keeps saying he doesn't like or want to see hookers. Why bother to post on FKK boards so much if he doesn't care about hookers? Very interesting to say the least LOL.
Meh, I kinda feel you are all just touching the subject here.
Mongering is all about polygamy. Because most societies are trying to hide our human nature: which is at the essence polygamous. Of course one can prefer one girl above other girls. Even inside or outside an FKK. But mongering leaves us all with an easier escape route if chemistry fails or our oxytocin receptors close. So we turn more instinctive in nature and can fuck as we please. That is the key. So indeed, attachments are silly. Just like with drug addictions.
Where did Polygamorous go anyway?
Hello.
Many clubs advertise regarding corona. Eintritt mit GGG Getestet (Schnelltest), geimpft oder genesen.
In Englisch. Entry with GGG Tested (rapid test), vaccinated or recovered.
Can anyone confirm that it is enough to show a covid passport that shows that you are fully vaccinated? When you read reviews from the clubs in German forums like freiercafe only quick tests are mentioned.
BL.
Hello.
Many clubs advertise regarding corona. Eintritt mit GGG Getestet (Schnelltest), geimpft oder genesen.
In Englisch. Entry with GGG Tested (rapid test), vaccinated or recovered.
Can anyone confirm that it is enough to show a covid passport that shows that you are fully vaccinated? When you read reviews from the clubs in German forums like freiercafe only quick tests are mentioned.
BL.Seem you need to show a negative test from less than 48 h, your ID and to write your data, and even I won t run weekly for this, but they are right when You can be vaccined and positive and giving to others, making a cluster in club and then they would be closed. Vaccined is to be allowed to enter country, but most also ask negative test, except maybe Spain which need so much tourism.
Not sure I understood this comment.About your ex friend here explaining us life, but maybe we don't all want to live same life. As say girls, we are all different, easy to see under shower, was funny at Samya with 6 new showers downstairs now, really improved. As I say to girls, no friend in brothels, not the place, when real friends are those who come when you are in need and without asking.
BigBuddy69
06-21-21, 07:45
If you had the final injection 2 weeks ago, Vax passport is OK.
ExpatLover
06-21-21, 08:50
Hello.
Many clubs advertise regarding corona. Eintritt mit GGG Getestet (Schnelltest), geimpft oder genesen.
In Englisch. Entry with GGG Tested (rapid test), vaccinated or recovered.
Can anyone confirm that it is enough to show a covid passport that shows that you are fully vaccinated? When you read reviews from the clubs in German forums like freiercafe only quick tests are mentioned.
BL.Quick tests are available everywhere even for free or just for 1 or 2 euros, I don t think there is any problem with it, to be on the safe side just take one unused with you in case.
ExpatLover
06-21-21, 08:58
You keep confusing mongering with dating. Its two entirely different things which are not related. One does not replace the other and vice versa. If you don't understand the difference, please just memorize it.
The WGs don't have sex with you because youre the greatest stud ever or they have the hots for you and want an orgasm. Its a business transaction, you pay, they fuck your brains out whatever way you want them to and is willing to pay for. Your fantasies, your pick of hot body, whatever.
She may make you think you're the best she ever had, if she is good at her job, but don't think you're on a date.
Some mongers like to repeat and build some sort of connection. But I bet in that in most cases the WG will see that as no more than a steady income. Sure they will appriciate guys that treat them nicely (as anyone should do), have a few laughs, but its still not a date.
If you have such a big problem with mongering, don't want to fuck women after others guys have been there and from your other post seem to be almost ashamed it, you know what? Just stop, see a shrink, whatever dude.No I don't confuse, but many mongers do when they say they are proud to give a orgasm to a prostitute or when they take Viagra to fuck a prostitute which is just as ridiculous. I really have no problem but I don't want to fuck a prostitute after she licked the ass from another monger or have done AO knowing that the girls can t technically not wash carefully after each monger. The evil is always in the details and I don t think main stream like so many people do when for example they listen to the crazy Elon Musk, or buy Game Stop or AMC shares, or are desperately waiting the next trip to FKK, or are showing some proud to fuck a prostitute sometimes it is good to put the church in the middle of the village like we say in France.
SpermBirds
06-21-21, 13:26
Yes, a fully vaccinated person (fully in Germany means at least 14 days after the second dosis or only dosis J&Johnson) does not require a test.
Smoke Light
06-21-21, 17:31
Hello.
Many clubs advertise regarding corona. Eintritt mit GGG Getestet (Schnelltest), geimpft oder genesen.
In Englisch. Entry with GGG Tested (rapid test), vaccinated or recovered.
Can anyone confirm that it is enough to show a covid passport that shows that you are fully vaccinated? When you read reviews from the clubs in German forums like freiercafe only quick tests are mentioned.
BL.ButtLover looks like you have some serious intentions to go, which I fully approve. On German forum it's explained clearly showing your vaccination card with ID or your recent 48-HR negative test with ID are both fully acceptable. If you need a test I guess you can go to a nearest Rossmans or DM store and get your result in half an hour. Best of luck and keep us posted on your progress.
No I don't confuse, but many mongers do when they say they are proud to give a orgasm to a prostitute or when they take Viagra to fuck a prostitute which is just as ridiculous. I really have no problem but I don't want to fuck a prostitute after she licked the ass from another monger or have done AO knowing that the girls can t technically not wash carefully after each monger. The evil is always in the details and I don t think main stream like so many people do when for example they listen to the crazy Elon Musk, or buy Game Stop or AMC shares, or are desperately waiting the next trip to FKK, or are showing some proud to fuck a prostitute sometimes it is good to put the church in the middle of the village like we say in France.Why are you here? I mean really. Why? And don't give some ridiculous answer like "to practice your English". I mean come on. It's like you're using this place as your "eCouch" to exorcise demons or something.
Yes, a fully vaccinated person (fully in Germany means at least 14 days after the second dosis or only dosis J&Johnson) does not require a test.At Samya, when I prefer to stay in entry to escape so bad music killing my small ears, desk asked test to all, even Germans or locals. For me, they are right, even boring to test for me, because a vaccined can be positive and give to others. If cluster, then club will be closed for a while, so maybe they prefer not to take risk, allowing only less than 48 hours negative tests.
ExpatLover
06-21-21, 20:01
Why are you here? I mean really. Why? And don't give some ridiculous answer like "to practice your English". I mean come on. It's like you're using this place as your "eCouch" to exorcise demons or something.I made a lot of mistakes in my life, probably 1 of my biggest was my endless mongering. Fortunately I succeeded to go out of my sex addiction link to mongering. I just try to share my personal feelings and also how stupid I consider some behaviour like taking Viagra to fuck a prostitute, kissing a prostitute, trying to make her come and globally the fact that some mongers believe that it is a performance to fuck a prostitute. On top of that, the covid is around and we all know how the pandemic was badly handle by many governments but despite all that for some mongers are just waiting desperately the reopening of the FKK when it is much easier to take into account a new situation and to just adapt our life.
ExpatLover
06-21-21, 20:03
ButtLover looks like you have some serious intentions to go, which I fully approve. On German forum it's explained clearly showing your vaccination card with ID or your recent 48-HR negative test with ID are both fully acceptable. If you need a test I guess you can go to a nearest Rossmans or DM store and get your result in half an hour. Best of luck and keep us posted on your progress.And then you are safe? Advice you to have a look at the WHO and to go to chapter, individual protection.
I made a lot of mistakes in my life, probably 1 of my biggest was my endless mongering. Fortunately I succeeded to go out of my sex addiction link to mongering. I just try to share my personal feelings and also how stupid I consider some behaviour like taking Viagra to fuck a prostitute, kissing a prostitute, trying to make her come and globally the fact that some mongers believe that it is a performance to fuck a prostitute. On top of that, the covid is around and we all know how the pandemic was badly handle by many governments but despite all that for some mongers are just waiting desperately the reopening of the FKK when it is much easier to take into account a new situation and to just adapt our life.So do you plan never to have sex with a prostitute ever in life again?
Well ExpatLover, in just 9 years or so we will have simulations where you can fuck as many simulated AI girls as you wish inside a virtual world with zero risk on contamination. You might need a few million nanobots swimming around in your brain, but it is the way we are all headed. But this is still some years into the future.
P.S. some people here on the forum seem to believe I am talking about robots or haptics. But no, this is nothing like that.
We probably live in a simulation already, although it has viruses, vaccines, bacteria etc.
I made a lot of mistakes in my life, probably 1 of my biggest was my endless mongering. Fortunately I succeeded to go out of my sex addiction link to mongering. I just try to share my personal feelings and also how stupid I consider some behaviour like taking Viagra to fuck a prostitute, kissing a prostitute, trying to make her come and globally the fact that some mongers believe that it is a performance to fuck a prostitute. On top of that, the covid is around and we all know how the pandemic was badly handle by many governments but despite all that for some mongers are just waiting desperately the reopening of the FKK when it is much easier to take into account a new situation and to just adapt our life.Yes, damn right you made a lot of mistakes in your life, and you just made another one, this is sex forum where mongers post LOL!
I made a lot of success in my life, I fucked so many stunners around the world since age 17 and I did numbers of stunners in my life too that I treasure the memories, but it is not that worth for me to concentrate on that as I want to fuck as many stunners as I can in my life time and I am doing good job at making me happy.
So why not make you happy and mumble about your mediocre life with normal girls and post your needy thoughts on the sex forum, but remember we are all stuck up mongers here LOL!
And for the record, I do not try to make prostitute cum or please prostitute, I do what I want with them like the pride of all French men, Pierre Woodman LOL!
You have to fuck prostitute hardcore and call them chien, suka! Etc like the pride of all French men, Pierre Woodman LOL!
Hello.
Many clubs advertise regarding corona. Eintritt mit GGG Getestet (Schnelltest), geimpft oder genesen.
In Englisch. Entry with GGG Tested (rapid test), vaccinated or recovered.
Can anyone confirm that it is enough to show a covid passport that shows that you are fully vaccinated? When you read reviews from the clubs in German forums like freiercafe only quick tests are mentioned.
BL.When I read GGG, I thought you are here to talk about triple G as a Kazakh boxer LOL!
PCR test, GGG test, this pandemic created a brand new world for all of us LOL!
As far as I know covid passport is not needed to enter EU for me at least and I did not read you need covid passport to enter FKK, but I read something about Artemis requiring vaccine proof or being infected and recover or pcr test result to enter. If so whatta messed world we going to live in. But this is not confirmed.
Yes, a fully vaccinated person (fully in Germany means at least 14 days after the second dosis or only dosis J&Johnson) does not require a test.So we do need PCR test in Germany to attend FKK? Wtf LOL! Well then, I can only go to Globe where no test is needed, freedom Switzerland at its best with their extreme liberalism backed with their lust for capitalism LOL!
Found the most appropriate board for our esteemed ex-mongers:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1084-Safe-Sex
Naive boys send flowers and tell her how it could be, but a monger send her 50 Euro and tell her how it is going to be, which is her face between my ass crack and her tongue in my anal LOL! She is just a regular ***** who cleaned my anal with shit that you call her wifey LOL!
By 50 Euro, upcoming monger rapper LOL!
Well ExpatLover, in just 9 years or so we will have simulations where you can fuck as many simulated AI girls as you wish inside a virtual world with zero risk on contamination. You might need a few million nanobots swimming around in your brain, but it is the way we are all headed. But this is still some years into the future.
P.S. some people here on the forum seem to believe I am talking about robots or haptics. But no, this is nothing like that.
We probably live in a simulation already, although it has viruses, vaccines, bacteria etc.In 9 years, I will be fucking minimum 90 more stunner of stunners, most likely more LOL!
When I read GGG, I thought you are here to talk about triple G as a Kazakh boxer LOL!That Naoya Inoue is one bad mofo!
ExpatLover
06-22-21, 06:22
Yes, damn right you made a lot of mistakes in your life, and you just made another one, this is sex forum where mongers post LOL!
I made a lot of success in my life, I fucked so many stunners around the world since age 17 and I did numbers of stunners in my life too that I treasure the memories, but it is not that worth for me to concentrate on that as I want to fuck as many stunners as I can in my life time and I am doing good job at making me happy.
So why not make you happy and mumble about your mediocre life with normal girls and post your needy thoughts on the sex forum, but remember we are all stuck up mongers here LOL!
And for the record, I do not try to make prostitute cum or please prostitute, I do what I want with them like the pride of all French men, Pierre Woodman LOL!
You have to fuck prostitute hardcore and call them chien, suka! Etc like the pride of all French men, Pierre Woodman LOL!Have you spoken with your psychiatric about why you always want to dominate the opposite sex, why you don't want to have a balance and fair relation with the women, why you want always to fuck them in the ass. I guess he will probably tell that to had a serious problem in your childhood with your parents. Strong people don t need to dominate the others.
ExpatLover
06-22-21, 06:26
Well ExpatLover, in just 9 years or so we will have simulations where you can fuck as many simulated AI girls as you wish inside a virtual world with zero risk on contamination. You might need a few million nanobots swimming around in your brain, but it is the way we are all headed. But this is still some years into the future.
P.S. some people here on the forum seem to believe I am talking about robots or haptics. But no, this is nothing like that.
We probably live in a simulation already, although it has viruses, vaccines, bacteria etc.Thanks but this is really not for me, I like the taste of a woman body.
ExpatLover
06-22-21, 06:31
So do you plan never to have sex with a prostitute ever in life again?I never plan something in my life, I had so much sex with prostitutes and even I am not very intelligent I understood that it is always the same thing. There are less and less top stunner in Germany, I don't spend anymore time to find the few remaining. The last times I went to GT Vienne or Shark I always left without a room. Sorry to repeat there is sex without prostitutes, most of the women like sex like the men do.
HammerTime96
06-22-21, 06:53
On top of that, the covid is around and we all know how the pandemic was badly handle by many governments but despite all that for some mongers are just waiting desperately the reopening of the FKK when it is much easier to take into account a new situation and to just adapt our life.You definitely have a point here.
For me, I prefer the normal dating scene, craving a special girl that I know, flirting with her, and trying to hook up with her. FKKs to me were like a visit to a restaurant when you don't feel like cooking, or you are very stressed with work, or to fill a 'dry period,' or if you want to have some fun by fucking girls with pornstar looks that I would not want to have a permanent relationship with.
As much as I liked visiting FKKs, it really looks like this era is coming to an end. This summer we'll see a few more death spasms with restricted openings, face diapers, testing-vaccination requirements. The more the "mutations" will be hyped by politicians, media and "experts," on the payroll of Big Pharma, the less people will go to FKK clubs. The more the governments invade our privacy with tracking apps and perhaps a digital (trackable) currency, the less people will visit FKKs.
People who think that this Covid1984 is a 'temporary' thing which will be fixed with a few simple "jabs" and then it's 'life as normal,' are IMHO seriously mistaken and deluded, and understand nothing of this world.
People who have FKKs and P6 as a "lifestyle" and a sole means of getting sex, will be destroyed and demoralized by the ever-continuing Covid1984 "crisis!"
As I already said in a previous post, politicians are already preparing the foundation for more lockdowns in autumn and the winter. Why? I thought that we have been told 24/7 that "vaccines work?
By the way, similar warning language from Germany's health minister: https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/we-cant-let-it-get-upper-hand-delta-mutant-threatens-derail-europes-covid-recovery.
(emphasis mine).
Speaking on Monday in Germany, Health Minister Jens Spahn warned that the Delta variant could spark Germany's "Fourth Wave". To combat this, Germany must find "the right balance" as it prepares for cases to climb into the fall and winter months.
PM Boris Johnson said Monday that England is "looking good" when it comes to further relaxation of coronavirus restrictions, but warned that the country could face a "rough winter" ahead.
Notice how they are already preparing the groundwork for lockdowns in the autumn and winter? But but but, I thought that the "vaccines work?" Isn't the UK such an exemplary nation with one of the the highest number of vaccinations in Europe? / sarc.
As I said before, enjoy the short summer and the few relaxations in the lockdowns, because after the German elections in September it will be business as usual; more "mutations," more lockdowns, more "vaccinations," and more tracking apps.
That Naoya Inoue is one bad mofo!Yeah the second in the world for pound for pound rank this year again after Canelo! I like Canelo lately, he improved a lot after his loss of Mayweather fight back in 2015 I think it was.
We probably live in a simulation already, although it has viruses, vaccines, bacteria etc.I know it's difficult for you but you need to get out more to meet other people.
Naive boys send flowers and tell her how it could be, but a monger send her 50 Euro and tell her how it is going to be, which is her face between my ass crack and her tongue in my anal LOL! She is just a regular ***** who cleaned my anal with shit that you call her wifey LOL!
By 50 Euro, upcoming monger rapper LOL!My FKK monger hero is not the deluded guy who thinks he is a casa nova pleasing every hooker, "brining out the real woman". Neither is it the guy who sees them all as inanimate tutes ready to be banged out seeing all personal relations to be avoided. And certainly not the monger on a monger forum who constantly bashes hookers to make himself feel superior to hookers and other mongers.
One of the almost awesome dudes was this Colombian guy I met at Oase and sharks. He was a silver haired guy in his late 50's /60's. The guy has definitely banged out hundreds of working girls in his life and had no emotional attachment to any of them beyond mere normal human decency. However he obviously built friendly relationships with many of the girls on a personal level. From what I gathered, he visited Germany two or three times a year but all of the girls knew him, often stopping by for just a short conversation and a kiss on the cheek. As I recall, he never dined alone and could always be seen with a drink in hand, slowly sipping, keeping his wits, and occasionally enjoying a cigar. You would never see him past 11 pm and was bright eyed every morning, ready to monger and mingle.
The guy had class, was suave, and was just a boss. There was no secret to his energy. He was just a normal dude, confident in his own skin, treating the girls like normal people, all the while knowing where he was, in a hooker house and place of business.
Found the most appropriate board for our esteemed ex-mongers:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1084-Safe-SexSafest sex is wifi, pc, appropriate website and right hand LOL! Or one could level up to masturbation hole LOL! When pandemic is over, I be like, I would not have it made it through without my masturbation hole LOL!
So we do need PCR test in Germany to attend FKK? Wtf LOL! Well then, I can only go to Globe where no test is needed, freedom Switzerland at its best with their extreme liberalism backed with their lust for capitalism LOL!LOL Capitalism and Liberalism always coexisted in smart countries, eg even in times of Bill Clinton in USA. Same in the past and now in Switzerland. Problem with Germany and many other countries (including USA) rn is the woke libtardism, which is neither liberal nor progressive nor capitalist. It's that weird shit that anything a normal heterosexual man or woman does for happiness is bad, but you can flaunt your homosexuality to little kids and that's all great.
Yup, enjoy Switzerland, and Austria too, both much better than woke Germany rn.
Thanks but this is really not for me, I like the taste of a woman body.You seem to massively underestimate what a brain machine interface can to. 'Taste of a woman' is probably some of the easier things to simulate.
I know it's difficult for you but you need to get out more to meet other people.I already took the red pill, but apparently I cannot get out before this body dies. Same goes for you and everyone else.
Are you guys just all mirroring the current ideas on 4 chan?
Come on, this is not something new. Bored here.
BIG NEWS.
https://www.hessenschau.de/politik/hessen-lockert-corona-beschraenkungen,corona-kabinett-regeln-100.html
According to the new rules in Hessen, as of Friday, brothels are allowed to reopen with some additional measures: potential clients must have taken a corona test (quick tests which are available to get during the daytime for free from several testing centres) and for track and trace, must leave their contact details at the locale, in this case the FKK club front desk or presumably, the walk-in brothel if they decide to reopen on Friday.
This is considerable, as even last year when the cases dopped, such a decision was not taken here. This marks about 1 year and 3 months since they were closed.
Curious how long it will take for the girls to return.
Carpaccio18
06-22-21, 21:23
Are you guys just all mirroring the current ideas on 4 chan?
Come on, this is not something new. Bored here.I'm sure the conversation quality here will improve in a month or two, when we can talk about who we fucked last night and whether it was any good.
BIG NEWS.
https://www.hessenschau.de/politik/hessen-lockert-corona-beschraenkungen,corona-kabinett-regeln-100.html
According to the new rules in Hessen, as of Friday, brothels are allowed to reopen with some additional measures: potential clients must have taken a corona test (quick tests which are available to get during the daytime for free from several testing centres) and for track and trace, must leave their contact details at the locale, in this case the FKK club front desk or presumably, the walk-in brothel if they decide to reopen on Friday.
This is considerable, as even last year when the cases dopped, such a decision was not taken here. This marks about 1 year and 3 months since they were closed.
Curious how long it will take for the girls to return.Long time who work in apartment or hotel will be on reopening. Will be a bit longer for fresh blood. But it will be pleasure to speed to FRA. On last week end, I saw others like stopped.
PaulInZurich
06-22-21, 22:14
For me, I prefer the normal dating scene, craving a special girl that I know, flirting with her, and trying to hook up with her. FKKs to me were like a visit to a restaurant when you don't feel like cooking, or you are very stressed with work, or to fill a 'dry period,' or if you want to have some fun by fucking girls with pornstar looks that I would not want to have a permanent relationship with.
As much as I liked visiting FKKs, it really looks like this era is coming to an end. It will be a sad day when you leave this forum and set up camp on a forum for life long relationships with the one true love. In the meantime I have to drown my sorrow since I only fucked 10 girls since Globe reopened.
Are you guys just all mirroring the current ideas on 4 chan?
Come on, this is not something new. Bored here.It is originated from 2 chan, created by Hiroyuki, which revolutionized the information world as originally we were allowed to write anything we want without any censorship or restriction on freedom of speech LOL!
My FKK monger hero is not the deluded guy who thinks he is a casa nova pleasing every hooker, "brining out the real woman". Neither is it the guy who sees them all as inanimate tutes ready to be banged out seeing all personal relations to be avoided. And certainly not the monger on a monger forum who constantly bashes hookers to make himself feel superior to hookers and other mongers.
One of the almost awesome dudes was this Colombian guy I met at Oase and sharks. He was a silver haired guy in his late 50's /60's. The guy has definitely banged out hundreds of working girls in his life and had no emotional attachment to any of them beyond mere normal human decency. However he obviously built friendly relationships with many of the girls on a personal level. From what I gathered, he visited Germany two or three times a year but all of the girls knew him, often stopping by for just a short conversation and a kiss on the cheek. As I recall, he never dined alone and could always be seen with a drink in hand, slowly sipping, keeping his wits, and occasionally enjoying a cigar. You would never see him past 11 pm and was bright eyed every morning, ready to monger and mingle..Yes, we have few mongers who are lost in delusion and lost in real life thinking he is the only one getting the service in FKK, but thinks these service is real and not an act LOL! They like to create intimate relation and friendship with prostitutes because they do not have such relations in their private lives, so they do that in FKK by paying 50 euro, see the magic of 50 euro LOL! They pay 50 euro so they hear what they want to hear and see and these prostitutes are good acting mental doctors for such mongers who are lost in delusion thinking he brought woman out of prostitute via her academy award acting, she appreciated the distance he drove to see them, and wow they are Romanian princesses LOL! Well as long as FKK is supporting his mental illness and mental un-stability and bring some sense to their sad life lost in system that lead to running away into illusion and prostitutes can be good mental doctors for these mongers LOL.
However, I go to FKK to fuck them as I want and with whom I want doing whatever I want by magic 50 euro giving me eternal sexual memories only some men can enjoy in life being efficient monger LOL!
That Colombian guy sound cool, Flavio briatore type in FKK, I met some cool guys in FKK too as I sit most of time in FKK waiting for stunner to walk in. I like these meeting of half hour or one hour, then usually I never see these guys ever again.
Prostitute client relation being regular with some girls over some years is strange thing, but it is also the beauty of FKK, you find this stunner girl in her early 20's, you do most dirtiest thing sexual only very intimate couple can do in normal dating world, then all of a sudden when you walk into FKK again, that girl is gone for good and never meet them ever again.
This never meet them ever again is also the thing I strangely enjoy as I witnessed so many stunners giving me such a amazing sexual memories for life then they vanish, it is like a never ending movies of sexual experiences as everyday is brand new day in FKK, like forest would say, FKK is like a box of chocolate, you never know what inside will you walk in to FKK each day LOL!
It will be a sad day when you leave this forum and set up camp on a forum for life long relationships with the one true love. In the meantime I have to drown my sorrow since I only fucked 10 girls since Globe reopened.Don't worry he will be back as he tasted the forbidden apple from the garden of eden LOL! It will be like; When I thought I am out, they will pull me right back in kind of situation LOL! The force is strong LOL!
Or some girl will break his darling heart and he will be like fuck this ***** and come right back to FKK for sexual healing LOL!
Mean while, I be in FKK cumming hardcore not giving a shit if the girls cum or not, but they often do as I fuck like the pride of all French men Pierre woodman LOL!
I'm sure the conversation quality here will improve in a month or two, when we can talk about who we fucked last night and whether it was any good.Instinctual behavior always wins in the end.
Whilst one person decides to write about the reopening of a major club in one of the major FKK regions, others chose to ignore and talk about 4 chan.
Glad people are interested in what matters.
According to the new rules in Hessen, as of Friday, brothels are allowed to reopen with some additional measures: potential clients must have taken a corona test (quick tests which are available to get during the daytime for free from several testing centres) and for track and trace, must leave their contact details at the locale, in this case the FKK club front desk or presumably, the walk-in brothel if they decide to reopen on Friday.Thanks for bringing us the Big News (otherwise we would have no idea! Bravo to you Sir.
Could you kindly give examples of where in central Frankfurt city one can find some of these free testing centres to which you refer? Anything near Hbf? Or maybe Hauptwache or Konstablerwache, for example?
Danke!
Have you spoken with your psychiatric about why you always want to dominate the opposite sex, why you don't want to have a balance and fair relation with the women, why you want always to fuck them in the ass. I guess he will probably tell that to had a serious problem in your childhood with your parents. Strong people don t need to dominate the others.I had wonderful childhood and teenage years being totally free as well. I do not like anal sex that much, I wrote that many times, I like stunners licking my ass, but not into anal sex though I do fuck most stunners in anal for joy of it as fucking them again and again need little addition of spices now and then.
You are the one who discussing your anti mongering on sex forum and preaching about how you appreciate normal women. Well I do appreciate fucking them hardcore because each man has different level of libido and I have more libido than you and am more hentai than you LOL!
All this normal sex do not satisfy me as I always had experiences of fucking only stunners normal or pro since I was 17, and I need more hardcore sex LOL!
You need to talk to shrink about your struggle in life as you mumble about your regret about having sex with prostitutes on sex forum where we discuss fucking prostitutes and getting ass licked among other crazy shit LOL! This is sex forum, not dating SOS forum for naive boys lost in love life LOL! We fuck hardcore go home here LOL!
Whilst one person decides to write about the reopening of a major club in one of the major FKK regions, others chose to ignore and talk about 4 chan.
Glad people are interested in what matters.Yeah, you're right. What made you think club openings would be interesting? It's as if some people have forgotten what this forum is about.
I'm glad things are moving towards normal. Hopefully my employer will soon find it acceptable to travel again.
Whilst one person decides to write about the reopening of a major club in one of the major FKK regions, others chose to ignore and talk about 4 chan.
Glad people are interested in what matters.Well it is lounge and chat, we even have a guy talking about his anti fucking prostitute rant preaching about his need for normal woman on sex forum where mongers talk about mongering LOL! But mongers have big heart to even handle naive boys like him here on sex forum LOL!
I never plan something in my life, I had so much sex with prostitutes and even I am not very intelligent I understood that it is always the same thing. There are less and less top stunner in Germany, I don't spend anymore time to find the few remaining. The last times I went to GT Vienne or Shark I always left without a room. Sorry to repeat there is sex without prostitutes, most of the women like sex like the men do.Sharks will reopen day after tomorrow but I will not be returning in the near future. The time is just not right for me. I do hope to return, however, when things are like they were during my last visit early last year so, maybe, 2023.
Sharks will reopen day after tomorrow but I will not be returning in the near future. The time is just not right for me. I do hope to return, however, when things are like they were during my last visit early last year so, maybe, 2023.Best to go now before it's too late. I hear they will let open the floodgates and have people either get covid, or the vaccine soon. Which is worse considering the timespan you have the shit in you. So when that happens, I'll hide for a few years perhaps. But we will see.
Sharks will reopen day after tomorrow but I will not be returning in the near future. The time is just not right for me. I do hope to return, however, when things are like they were during my last visit early last year so, maybe, 2023.I want to see everything really settle down and return to a "true" normal. You can plan a trip for later this year, then turn around and get screwed with another shutdown. Also, I don't want to deal with testing and potential quarantines and all of that stuff. The Cane remains on the sidelines for now.
I want to see everything really settle down and return to a "true" normal. You can plan a trip for later this year, then turn around and get screwed with another shutdown. Also, I don't want to deal with testing and potential quarantines and all of that stuff. The Cane remains on the sidelines for now.I cancelled a trip this past year but was credited the airfare. They gave me the option of full cash refund or a ticket voucher.
Hotels never charged a fee when I booked direct and cancelled. Another time I cancelled a flight booked through a travel aggregator (Hopper). I had problems getting the refund with them but my credit card quickly credited me my ticket cost.
I think the travel business is being quite accommodating and if they fail, credit card companies have your back. I suppose there is a small window of no man's land if policies are changed mid-travel to your destination. Point is, I think financial and time-lost risks are minimal. My only concern is quality of the mongering or tourism scene during travel due to limited hours and services offered.
Best to go now before it's too late....I do hope you take your own advice. I want a blow by blow account since I won't be there.
ExpatLover
06-23-21, 19:26
Sharks will reopen day after tomorrow but I will not be returning in the near future. The time is just not right for me. I do hope to return, however, when things are like they were during my last visit early last year so, maybe, 2023.Probably a good decision, there is still the Indian variant around even some Delta plus. Let us see how the vaccines will work for the moment the things are not looking so well in the UK which have already one of the worst results in fighting the pandemic, I believe that London is the worst city in the world with NY. What can we expect from a guy like Boris Johnson? Today most of the medias are corrupted, it is the same.
In France or Germany, therefor the politicians can continue to tell lies without being challenged.
I want to see everything really settle down and return to a "true" normal. You can plan a trip for later this year, then turn around and get screwed with another shutdown. Also, I don't want to deal with testing and potential quarantines and all of that stuff. The Cane remains on the sidelines for now.That is what we all said in 2020 to be back in 2021 and now in 2021 we are saying 2022 LOL! We supposed to be the swinging dick fucking stunners of stunners one after another homie LOL! CPP fucked all of us in the ass LOL!
It is Cuban missile crisis for all of us mongers LOL!
I will begin to do escort here and there this summer though!
According to the website here, the following clubs are reopening as of Friday: https://www.fkk24.de/fkk-saunaclubs/hessen.
FKK Sharks.
FKK-World.
FKK-Mainhattan.
FKK-Oase.
Bahama Club.
Still closed:
FKK Rom.
The Palace.
Dietzenbach.
I made a lot of mistakes in my life, probably 1 of my biggest was my endless mongering. Fortunately I succeeded to go out of my sex addiction link to mongering. I just try to share my personal feelings and also how stupid I consider some behaviour like taking Viagra to fuck a prostitute, kissing a prostitute, trying to make her come and globally the fact that some mongers believe that it is a performance to fuck a prostitute. On top of that, the covid is around and we all know how the pandemic was badly handle by many governments but despite all that for some mongers are just waiting desperately the reopening of the FKK when it is much easier to take into account a new situation and to just adapt our life.I am trying to share my personal feeling too:
You send her flower and tell her how it might be, and I will send her 50 Euro and tell her how it is, which is her face between my ass crack and her tongue in my anal LOL! She is just another disposal stunner to me, but you call her wifey LOL!
By 50 Euro AKA FKK Analist.
That is what we all said in 2020 to be back in 2021 and now in 2021 we are saying 2022 LOL! We supposed to be the swinging dick fucking stunners of stunners one after another homie LOL! CPP fucked all of us in the ass LOL!
It is Cuban missile crisis for all of us mongers LOL!
I will begin to do escort here and there this summer though!Too bad more and more tutes are busy with onlyfans.
It is good that you have not developed what I call, Mongers syndrome.
Mongers syndrome is when you begin to calculate everything based on what you could have get in FKK at its best moment for the prices you pay for anything in your life LOL! For example, price difference of few hundred euro for over all trip maybe just 5 to 10 percentage of over all trip, but I begin to think, "I could have got my anal licked and my dick sucked by adding extra stunner to the session" etc LOL! I do this even when I am buying something in my life, I begin to think I could have done this and that in FKK LOL! My mind is polluted all day long, all around the clock LOL! Mongers syndrome this is!Monger syndrome got me. Instead of buying 2 tickets to an NBA conference finals game I decided to buy a plane ticket to FKK land. Instead of two game tickets and drinks at the game, I thought, "I'm still not guaranteed pussy. " Instead of going to an NBA playoff game, the girl gets a basic dinner and drinks and I get an FKK trip to fuck 20 other girls.
Monger Syndrome at work. No regrets.
ExpatLover
06-24-21, 06:18
I am trying to share my personal feeling too:
You send her flower and tell her how it might be, and I will send her 50 Euro and tell her how it is, which is her face between my ass crack and her tongue in my anal LOL! She is just another disposal stunner to me, but you call her wifey LOL!
By 50 Euro AKA FKK Analist.It is exactly why I don't want to kiss a prostitute, I don't want to taste your asshole.
HammerTime96
06-24-21, 11:34
I want to see everything really settle down and return to a "true" normal. You can plan a trip for later this year, then turn around and get screwed with another shutdown. Also, I don't want to deal with testing and potential quarantines and all of that stuff. The Cane remains on the sidelines for now.Indeed, and it seems many guys haven't even though this thing through: what to do when you test "positive" one day before your flight home? Stay 10 days in a hotel quarantine? Pay a small fortune in cancellation and rebooking fees?
I want to see everything really settle down and return to a "true" normal. You can plan a trip for later this year, then turn around and get screwed with another shutdown. Also, I don't want to deal with testing and potential quarantines and all of that stuff. The Cane remains on the sidelines for now.Yes, India variant await you LOL! And now Delta plus LOL!
The naming sense for this virus is becoming as good as in the Hollywood movies LOL!
Yeah, you're right. What made you think club openings would be interesting? It's as if some people have forgotten what this forum is about.
I'm glad things are moving towards normal. Hopefully my employer will soon find it acceptable to travel again.Workers are slowly coming back to work after labor day. But even then there is no clarity on the hybrid model yet. Employers are not asking their employees if they have been vaccinated or not, due to sensitivity around that issue. But they want to restrict the office facilities to those already vaccinated. And when they come to the office, it is not yet clear if it will be for all 5 days of the week and 4 weeks a month.
Business travel is lacking visibility to an even greater degree. That requires a policy match not just inside your firm but w / counterparts across firms, across regions, nations. I have no idea when large trade shows and conferences can begin to happen. The logistics nightmare of organizing these things with Covid restrictions, ugh!
I don't need my firm to buy me the plane ticket but unfortunately I need an excuse to be away from home for extended periods and right now, I have no idea when that might come about.
Hopefully well before then, these clubs will lift their restrictive policies on attendance. Nothing is a bigger non-starter than flying across the pond and having to sit in a hotel for 15 hours because the club will only allow you inside for 3 or 4 hours. Or the price gouging that can happen because girls know that guys will pay any price because they will be kicked out in 45 minutes.
With time restrictions in place, these are no longer FKK fun clubs, they are brothels where you go, fuck, and come out. No need to take weeks off, spend thousands for such an experience when you can pay a local sugarbabe far less and have a better experience.
It is exactly why I don't want to kiss a prostitute, I don't want to taste your asshole.Every time you smell shit in a dirty bathroom, you're already tasting little particles of shit from someone's asshole. At least the prostitute has likely rinsed her mouth with antiseptic and washed her faced.
Indeed, and it seems many guys haven't even though this thing through: what to do when you test "positive" one day before your flight home? Stay 10 days in a hotel quarantine? Pay a small fortune in cancellation and rebooking fees?In the case of a positive test, here are the policies of the "Big Three" US Airlines.
Delta:
Customers who receive a positive PCR test result will need to postpone their trip, should self-isolate in accordance with health guidelines and should not come to the airport for check-in. Customers will receive an eCredit for the unflown portion of their ticket and change fees will be waived.
American Airlines:
When asked about what happens if a passenger tests positive, an American Airlines spokesperson said, We have an existing policy that makes exceptions for people with illnesses or health-related issues prior to traveling on American. With proper documentation, we work with the customer to meet their travel needs.
United (United always provide free rebooking in case of medical emergencies).
A United spokesperson echoed the sentiment, saying, all of our normal change and cancellation (or) refund options would apply if a customer tested positive during their travels.And lastly, most higher tier credit card companies provide travel insurance to cover expenses in the case interruption due to illness, hotels fees included. Financial safety nets are there.
I'm guessing most businesses will be understanding to their employees if they were stranded in a foreign country.
It is exactly why I don't want to kiss a prostitute, I don't want to taste your asshole.Run some dick up in that booty hole instead aahahaha!
Every time you smell shit in a dirty bathroom, you're already tasting little particles of shit from someone's asshole. At least the prostitute has likely rinsed her mouth with antiseptic and washed her faced.All WGs don't have so fresh breathe. Bad teeth don t help.
It is exactly why I don't want to kiss a prostitute, I don't want to taste your asshole.It is too bad, it may enlighten you and make you wake up from naive state of mind and spice up your life LOL! I have to purify these stunners with my divine anal LOL! You do not know what is going on in this world because it is one big big dirty world behind that closed door LOL!
Monger syndrome got me. Instead of buying 2 tickets to an NBA conference finals game I decided to buy a plane ticket to FKK land. Instead of two game tickets and drinks at the game, I thought, "I'm still not guaranteed pussy. " Instead of going to an NBA playoff game, the girl gets a basic dinner and drinks and I get an FKK trip to fuck 20 other girls.
Monger Syndrome at work. No regrets.You did the right thing! It is always good to see big tall men jumping with sweat and putting that orange ball in that basket LOL! But I hear it is better to attend nude wrestling match with bung of beautiful girls in Germany called German FKK LOL! You definitely paid attention in math class and know how to balance thing out to choose the right thing LOL!
But be careful with covid though as girls await you for your 50 euro, delta maybe await you also, but if you are vaccinated, you should be ok!
Too bad more and more tutes are busy with onlyfans.Link? URL? Why? Because my masturbation hole is ready LOL!
All WGs don't have so fresh breathe. Bad teeth don t help.Better than the smell of a dirty toilet with floating poop particles.
Better than the smell of a dirty toilet with floating poop particles.I never had any FKK girls with bad breath actually, but I only go with stunner of stunner! And I always put finger in her anal while fucking doggy and I can only recall one girl who made my thumb smell in 12 years in FKK!
Only smelly thing I sometimes notice about some FKK girls are hair as some FKK main bar is smoke free! The worst club for smoke is Artemis, then golden time, then living room can be bad too! Sharks and ocean has high ware house like ceiling, so smoke is not bad! And Oase up stairs was bad for smoke too, but down stair is good with smoke and much better with lighting! But yeah, their hair sometimes smell of hair product and cigarette smoke mixed! Beside that I never had smelly girls in FKK even inside their anal do not stink! They must have emptied their shit hole before my session as Dr Ho do inspect inside of their anal with my finger LOL!
In the case of a positive test, here are the policies of the "Big Three" US Airlines.
Delta:
American Airlines:
United (United always provide free rebooking in case of medical emergencies).
And lastly, most higher tier credit card companies provide travel insurance to cover expenses in the case interruption due to illness, hotels fees included. Financial safety nets are there.
I'm guessing most businesses will be understanding to their employees if they were stranded in a foreign country.All it takes for you to be on CNN now is just scream I got corona positive during your flight in USA, then I am sure it will get you emergency landing followed by hysterical arrest, and you will secure your sport at the evening news and maybe even on CNN LOL! CCP run this world LOL!
Every time you smell shit in a dirty bathroom, you're already tasting little particles of shit from someone's asshole. At least the prostitute has likely rinsed her mouth with antiseptic and washed her faced.As I wrote before some monger pay extra for girls to shit on them! What a wonderful fetish some mongers have LOL! Only in FKK LOL!
As for golden shower, I was often asked, but I refused because I am not that divine level as monger yet, I may need some training on my mental and soon or late, I be between her leg drinking that golden liquid from that predator looking thing between her leg and soon enough, I be opening mouth underneath her brown corn hole to eat that divine excrement of hers LOL! Her wonderful outcome of FKK food LOL!
"Straight out of corn hole" is the latest upcoming album with new songs such as "golden shower", "put in your mouth" Smells like anal spirit "Anal penetrator", and of course number one hit song "straight from corn hole" by monger rapper 50 Euro AKA Dr Ho, an another Analist in FKK LOL!
Better than the smell of a dirty toilet with floating poop particles.Or it must have been after my extensive anal session LOL!
Link? URL? Why? Because my masturbation hole is ready LOL!People should stop feeding these onlyfans girls. As well as the webcam girls. Then they might seek opportunities in FKKs instead.
the club will only allow you inside for 3 or 4 hours..Is it so? It is not mentioned in their websites for the limited time.
Is it so? It is not mentioned in their websites for the limited time.That was just for SixSense. The current openings do not stipulate that.
ExpatLover
06-25-21, 06:42
You did the right thing! It is always good to see big tall men jumping with sweat and putting that orange ball in that basket LOL! But I hear it is better to attend nude wrestling match with bung of beautiful girls in Germany called German FKK LOL! You definitely paid attention in math class and know how to balance thing out to choose the right thing LOL!
But be careful with covid though as girls await you for your 50 euro, delta maybe await you also, but if you are vaccinated, you should be ok!I am vaccinated with Pfister. In Israel they only use Pfister and now 40% of the new cases are from vaccinated 1. Being vaccinated seems to reduce the risk from 50% so the vaccines are as efficient as the one for the normal flue. Is it really a surprise.
Is it so? It is not mentioned in their websites for the limited time.It was speculated here; and was implemented last summer.
Is it so? It is not mentioned in their websites for the limited time.I will not visit FKKs if:
(1) I have to give my name and other personal information at the front desk;
(2) I have to wear a mask anywhere in the club;
(3) I have to get a covid test before I am allowed entry;
(4) I am restricted to 3 or 4 hours only in the club.
I will time my return for when none of the above are required.
I second that. It's a non starter for me as well. I would add point #5 to your list as shown below.
I will not visit FKKs if:
(1) I have to give my name and other personal information at the front desk;
(2) I have to wear a mask anywhere in the club;
(3) I have to get a covid test before I am allowed entry;
(4) I am restricted to 3 or 4 hours only in the club.
(5) I have to be vaccinated or show a proof that I'm vaccinated.
What's the fun and how free would one feel to go there (not just FKK but also the country of Germany and Europe as a whole) if we are restricted by those requirements in a free society. It's so sad that people blindly obey rules that don't make much sense. I can't possibly fathom that the younger dudes are still afraid or paranoid about this whole Covid episode and constantly have the Covid thing on their mind! My good Lord!
ExpatLover
06-25-21, 16:57
I second that. It's a non starter for me as well. I would add point #5 to your list as shown below.
(5) I have to be vaccinated or show a proof that I'm vaccinated.
What's the fun and how free would one feel to go there (not just FKK but also the country of Germany and Europe as a whole) if we are restricted by those requirements in a free society. It's so sad that people blindly obey rules that don't make much sense. I can't possibly fathom that the younger dudes are still afraid or paranoid about this whole Covid episode!What is the problem if you vaccinated? If you are not you are more and more not welcome in Europe or able to travel for European citizen. Just get vaccinated and the things will be much more easier.
I will not visit FKKs if:
(1) I have to give my name and other personal information at the front desk;
(2) I have to wear a mask anywhere in the club;
(3) I have to get a covid test before I am allowed entry;
(4) I am restricted to 3 or 4 hours only in the club.
I will time my return for when none of the above are required.It wouldn't bother me at all if I had to comply with any of these requirements other than (4) if it was time restricted I would be very reluctant as for me the point of FKK's other than the sexual activities is to sit back and watch, use the facilities and most importantly relax!
I will not visit FKKs if:
(1) I have to give my name and other personal information at the front desk;
(2) I have to wear a mask anywhere in the club;
(3) I have to get a covid test before I am allowed entry;
(4) I am restricted to 3 or 4 hours only in the club.
I will time my return for when none of the above are required.I don't blame you. However:
1. personal information is deleted within 10 days, it's illegal for them to pass it on to anyone else.
2. I agree, it's damn uncomfortable.
3. it's quick, easy and free (for residents at least). They actually checked my passport and needed proof of residence when I got tested. Annoying. Result arrived in 20 minutes on my phone.
4. that's definitely a deal breaker, but if it's uncomfortable by being made to wear a mask inside, no sauna, no pool. People may not want to stay longer than that anyway.
Member #4748
06-25-21, 17:26
I second that. It's a non starter for me as well. I would add point #5 to your list as shown below.
(5) I have to be vaccinated or show a proof that I'm vaccinated.
What's the fun and how free would one feel to go there (not just FKK but also the country of Germany and Europe as a whole) if we are restricted by those requirements in a free society. It's so sad that people blindly obey rules that don't make much sense. I can't possibly fathom that the younger dudes are still afraid or paranoid about this whole Covid episode and constantly have the Covid thing on their mind! My good Lord!Couldn't agree more. Hopefully by late summer / early fall they open without restrictions.
ExpatLover
06-25-21, 18:53
I don't blame you. However:
1. personal information is deleted within 10 days, it's illegal for them to pass it on to anyone else.
2. I agree, it's damn uncomfortable.
3. it's quick, easy and free (for residents at least). They actually checked my passport and needed proof of residence when I got tested. Annoying. Result arrived in 20 minutes on my phone.
4. that's definitely a deal breaker, but if it's uncomfortable by being made to wear a mask inside, no sauna, no pool. People may not want to stay longer than that anyway.Let us not being too naïve, who can check that the info are really deleted, they will always find a excuse not to do it, state of emergency. But if you have nothing to hide like me what is the problem?
Let us not being too nave, who can check that the info are really deleted, they will always find a excuse not to do it, state of emergency. But if you have nothing to hide like me what is the problem?I have taken the risk. Ultimately, in Germany, going to the brothel isn't illegal. And none of the Laufhäuser want to ruin their reputation by having any of it leaked.
I agree however, this shit shouldn't be necessary.
People should stop feeding these onlyfans girls. As well as the webcam girls. Then they might seek opportunities in FKKs instead.Yes, my anal need more cleaning by more stunner girls tongue, best wash let toilet ever are in FKK LOL!
I am vaccinated with Pfister. In Israel they only use Pfister and now 40% of the new cases are from vaccinated 1. Being vaccinated seems to reduce the risk from 50% so the vaccines are as efficient as the one for the normal flue. Is it really a surprise.I am withholding myself from vaccination as I am not sure about side effects are, in fact, nobody know this as it is newly invented medicine with clinical trial of not even one year! Only evidence we have is governments are saying, it is all ok and it is safe in long term LOL! Politicians, I even trust prostitutes more than politicians, both begin with spelling P LOL! P is dangerous being LOL!
Let us not being too nave, who can check that the info are really deleted, they will always find a excuse not to do it, state of emergency. But if you have nothing to hide like me what is the problem?Those who believe brothel owners or prostitutes or politicians are naively stupid LOL!
HammerTime96
06-26-21, 01:44
Let us not being too nave, who can check that the info are really deleted, they will always find a excuse not to do it, state of emergency. But if you have nothing to hide like me what is the problem?
I have taken the risk. Ultimately, in Germany, going to the brothel isn't illegal. And none of the Laufhuser want to ruin their reputation by having any of it leaked.
I agree however, this shit shouldn't be necessary.Well, "sharing is caring. ' How do you know that the German authorities won't pass on your FKK club visiting data to your native country?
Wearing mask in FKK? For me, face is the first thing I examine when I detect stunner, then the body, then tattoo, surgeries and then the personality as I can convince her to do things, so I do not care much for personality.
However, for me, it is big problem when girls are wearing mask when they are moving because I usually station myself where the good lighting is so I can see her face properly. And those good lighting spot tend to be where she walks out from changing room into the main bar, so she would be wearing mask and I do not feel like stopping every girl and tell her to take the mask off please, then see the face under the mask and turn down like 30 girls or more then I will be cursed in Romanian language 30 times or more each time I turn them down due to ugly face after taking off mask LOL! So this mask thing while moving in FKK is big problem for me LOL! I am going to be slapped LOL!
Couldn't agree more. Hopefully by late summer / early fall they open without restrictions.That is what we said last year LOL, but yeah maybe, maybe not, I am quite sure we will be back to so called normal or more or less normal next summer if new variants will not defeat vaccines, which I think it will not. At least for G7 nations and some EU nations, restriction should be lifted for travelling without all these rules and constraint LOL!
ExpatLover
06-26-21, 06:27
I have taken the risk. Ultimately, in Germany, going to the brothel isn't illegal. And none of the Laufhuser want to ruin their reputation by having any of it leaked.
I agree however, this shit shouldn't be necessary.The laufhauser or FKK are ready for everything to keep open and when the police put them the pressure like give me all the info or we will make a raid, or we will check all the driver. We are not in a normal business.
I second that. It's a non starter for me as well. I would add point #5 to your list as shown below.
(5) I have to be vaccinated or show a proof that I'm vaccinated.
What's the fun and how free would one feel to go there (not just FKK but also the country of Germany and Europe as a whole) if we are restricted by those requirements in a free society. It's so sad that people blindly obey rules that don't make much sense. I can't possibly fathom that the younger dudes are still afraid or paranoid about this whole Covid episode and constantly have the Covid thing on their mind! My good Lord!I second that, but I add point 6): I cannot be fucked to go through all these craps like in airport to get in to FKK LOL!
And on more serious note, FKK sound like not back at its normal state with girls wearing masks when walking around, girls numbers are reported to be limited and restriction on entrance when it exceed certain numbers of guests etc. Too many unknown for me to go yet!
We mongers know that Germany and Switzerland and Austria, Brazil and maybe Spain are the best mongering destination for white girls and eastern European girls among other international race and not Netherlands as some mass media portrayed it to be or non mongers in normal society associate Amsterdam as sex tourism capital. There are some truth in it with those shady window with mediocre girls inside, but this news below of crack down by the Dutch authority is scary as this kind of drastic measure could happen to Germany in future!
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/amsterdam-wants-rowdy-tourists-to-stay-away/index.html
I have taken the risk. Ultimately, in Germany, going to the brothel isn't illegal. And none of the Laufhuser want to ruin their reputation by having any of it leaked.
I agree however, this shit shouldn't be necessary.Lanthano. Like you I have visited FKKs under ID and mask restrictions (about 10 times), and found no real problems. My name and address wasn't leaked, and I was easily able to spend all day, despite having to wear a mask. If it's a choice of wearing a mask or staying at home, I know which I prefer.
Lanthano. Like you I have visited FKKs under ID and mask restrictions (about 10 times), and found no real problems. My name and address wasn't leaked, and I was easily able to spend all day, despite having to wear a mask. If it's a choice of wearing a mask or staying at home, I know which I prefer.How can you be so sure that your information wasn't leaked? That's something people tend to keep secreted away until finally the leak becomes exposed somehow at later point in time, sometimes even years later. And if in fact your personal information wasn't leaked, how do you know it won't be in the future? Optimism LOL? Yes, it's always a risk we have to choose to take (or not). But unless you have some factual inside info, you don't know whether your personal information has been leaked or not. You hope it hasn't been. You think it hasn't been. But, all things remaining the same, how do you really know for sure that it hasn't been leaked? And that reminds me of a funny story. There was a time when Palace had a masseuse on staff. I decided I wanted a massage, so I wrote my first name down to select a time slot. My name was the only one on the list at the time. Later on when I went back to examine the list, I saw that like 4 or 5 other guys had signed up for time slots after mine, with each one of them signing up using my first name!
I will not visit FKKs if:
(1) I have to give my name and other personal information at the front desk;
(2) I have to wear a mask anywhere in the club;
(3) I have to get a covid test before I am allowed entry;
(4) I am restricted to 3 or 4 hours only in the club.
I will time my return for when none of the above are required.Go to Palace Luzern. Ch, nothing asked. Some Globe girls there.
I second that. It's a non starter for me as well. I would add point #5 to your list as shown below.
(5) I have to be vaccinated or show a proof that I'm vaccinated.
What's the fun and how free would one feel to go there (not just FKK but also the country of Germany and Europe as a whole) if we are restricted by those requirements in a free society. It's so sad that people blindly obey rules that don't make much sense. I can't possibly fathom that the younger dudes are still afraid or paranoid about this whole Covid episode and constantly have the Covid thing on their mind! My good Lord!With regard to your requirement number (5) if the 4 requirements I listed are no longer necessary to enter FKKs but I will be required to be vaccinated in order to travel then I will have no choice but to do so.
BigBuddy69
06-26-21, 16:20
In Rheingold, the mask inside wasn't mandatory. And in 6's, I think it's not mandatory since today.
HammerTime96
06-26-21, 17:01
My name and address wasn't leaked...How do you know? How do you know that the club will destroy the list after 10 days?
Yes, my anal need more cleaning by more stunner girls tongue, best wash let toilet ever are in FKK LOL!I see you have a professor degree in marketing!
The laufhauser or FKK are ready for everything to keep open and when the police put them the pressure like give me all the info or we will make a raid, or we will check all the driver. We are not in a normal business.The police can gather all the info they want. Going to the brothel is not illegal in Germany.
ExpatLover
06-26-21, 18:54
The police can gather all the info they want. Going to the brothel is not illegal in Germany.You are right of course it is legal but it seems that some married guys are not able to assume that they are fucking prostitutes and want to stay private.
We mongers know that Germany and Switzerland and Austria, Brazil and maybe Spain are the best mongering destination for white girls and eastern European girls among other international race and not Netherlands as some mass media portrayed it to be or non mongers in normal society associate Amsterdam as sex tourism capital. There are some truth in it with those shady window with mediocre girls inside, but this news below of crack down by the Dutch authority is scary as this kind of drastic measure could happen to Germany in future!
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/amsterdam-wants-rowdy-tourists-to-stay-away/index.htmlI think the difference is that in Amsterdam, the push to move the RLD from De Wallen is motivated by the local's desire to make the historical area more accessible to the locals.
In German states, the brothels are already regulated to be located outside of city centers. Not sure about Hessen's specific policies with Palace being located so close to the train station and convention center. They might be grandfathered in.
Well, "sharing is caring. ' How do you know that the German authorities won't pass on your FKK club visiting data to your native country?Unless you are in countries like Norway that Fascistly bans their citizens from mongering overseas, what reason would you have to fear for German authorities to give that info to your home government? What are people doing to be under government investigation? And besides aforementioned Norway, what other governments regulate you from doing something that is legal in other countries.
I am vaccinated with Pfister. In Israel they only use Pfister and now 40% of the new cases are from vaccinated 1. Being vaccinated seems to reduce the risk from 50% so the vaccines are as efficient as the one for the normal flue. Is it really a surprise.I think you've left out a key part of the upsurge in cases:
Although Infections among vaccinated people have alarmed Israelis, the infections appear to be milder than they are in unvaccinated people.
As of Monday, no severe cases of COVID-19 had been reported from the latest surge, Ran Balicer, an executive at the Israeli healthcare organization Clalit, said in a tweet.
https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-50-of-delta-variant-cases-vaccinated-severe-2021-6
Lanthano. Like you I have visited FKKs under ID and mask restrictions (about 10 times), and found no real problems. My name and address wasn't leaked, and I was easily able to spend all day, despite having to wear a mask. If it's a choice of wearing a mask or staying at home, I know which I prefer.And you literally only have to wear a mask when walking around. I'm pretty sure 95% of the time I am sitting or in a room. Not exactly a major inconvenience. But hey, less guys, better for the ones there. I hear that upsell is prevalent right now.
In Velbert, when the WGs tried to introduce a price increase, the mongers voted with their wallets. And it took 90-120 days for the WGs to return to market reality. That scenario is more likely in secluded Babylon than it is in Sharks. If Sharks WGs raised prices, I could see locals boycotting (after the initial euphoria). But the decreased attendance and patronage may prove fruitless, because the international mongers will rush in. Thus, that 90 consecutive days of decreased attendance and economic starvation that happened in ACA might never occur in Sharks. The fly-in, international monger demand is a little harder to forecast. I could be too easily influenced by what I read on ISG. Based on what I read here, the vast majority of ISGers are anxious and will return ASAP (or have booked their trip already). Is that reflective of the wider international monger market? Until tourism and business travel rebound, many non-hardcore mongers will not have an "excuse" to return to FKK land.Didn't want to clog the Babylon thread anymore.
It's going to take a long time for international mongers to return. Most of the ones coming will be from other parts of Europe and some Americans. Asians seem to be a bit more trepidatious in their traveling right now. At the same time, most East Asians in the clubs are there as part of a business trip, not a lot of business travel going on right now. Same for American business travelers.
My guess is that whatever price hikes that is sustained will be the result of what locals accept, which I hope is little to none. It would be good to pay attention to the make up of the Hessen crowds these next few weeks. If things go as I suspect, you will see a higher than usual proportion of German residents. Without the notorious Asian targets, one should expect that the upsell to not be successful and sustained.
I think the difference is that in Amsterdam, the push to move the RLD from De Wallen is motivated by the local's desire to make the historical area more accessible to the locals.
In German states, the brothels are already regulated to be located outside of city centers. Not sure about Hessen's specific policies with Palace being located so close to the train station and convention center. They might be grandfathered in.You are as good as google as usual LOL!
Yeah, it may not be in the city center, but some of FKK are in residential center LOL! Like look at Bruggen, it is such a lovely town with many nature and Golden time rocking the lovely town with their outdoor orgies among a lot of dirty things going on in there LOL! Also another example is Living room, it is right in center of residential area in normal house with red lighting at night LOL! Whatta great education for local teenagers to navigate them where to go once they can get their dick up LOL!
Palace is also arguably in half residential area and half in office area too LOL! There must be more like that!
Well I hope they will keep FKK as it made a lot of men's life so happy LOL! But made local living near by unhappy and worried, especially the aging wife who is no longer young and beautiful LOL! 50 Euro can fix men's problem LOL!
50 Euro babies LOL!
How can you be so sure that your information wasn't leaked? That's something people tend to keep secreted away until finally the leak becomes exposed somehow at later point in time, sometimes even years later. And if in fact your personal information wasn't leaked, how do you know it won't be in the future? Optimism LOL? Yes, it's always a risk we have to choose to take (or not). But unless you have some factual inside info, you don't know whether your personal information has been leaked or not. You hope it hasn't been. You think it hasn't been. But, all things remaining the same, how do you really know for sure that it hasn't been leaked? And that reminds me of a funny story. There was a time when Palace had a masseuse on staff. I decided I wanted a massage, so I wrote my first name down to select a time slot. My name was the only one on the list at the time. Later on when I went back to examine the list, I saw that like 4 or 5 other guys had signed up for time slots after mine, with each one of them signing up using my first name!Some mongers are naive enough to trust prostitutes and brothel, but 50 Euro only put trust in the power of 50 Euro LOL! It is to the extent when I exchange money to mighty Euro currency when I go to Germany, all my Euro notes are 50 Euro LOL! Be ware, if you see a man in German airport at the arrival and if he only has 50 Euro notes, you know where that guy is heading LOL! 50 Euro is such a force is strong bank note LOL!
Didn't want to clog the Babylon thread anymore.
It's going to take a long time for international mongers to return. Most of the ones coming will be from other parts of Europe and some Americans. Asians seem to be a bit more trepidatious in their traveling right now. At the same time, most East Asians in the clubs are there as part of a business trip, not a lot of business travel going on right now. Same for American business travelers.
My guess is that whatever price hikes that is sustained will be the result of what locals accept, which I hope is little to none. It would be good to pay attention to the make up of the Hessen crowds these next few weeks. If things go as I suspect, you will see a higher than usual proportion of German residents. Without the notorious Asian targets, one should expect that the upsell to not be successful and sustained.We need to encourage our German friends to hold the line on inflation. Most Germans are demanding customers which is good.
How do you know? How do you know that the club will destroy the list after 10 days?All you need is a rogue employee with a desire to make some money by blackmailing married clients.
We mongers know that Germany and Switzerland and Austria, Brazil and maybe Spain are the best mongering destination ...Right now I can visit Brazil but have no desire to do so mainly because I have visited FKKs so often that I have been spoiled and only wish to visit FKKs with no restrictions at this time.
HammerTime96
06-27-21, 17:35
I have taken the risk. Ultimately, in Germany, going to the brothel isn't illegal. And none of the Laufhuser want to ruin their reputation by having any of it leaked.
I agree however, this shit shouldn't be necessary.
My name and address wasn't leaked
All you need is a rogue employee with a desire to make some money by blackmailing married clients.Exactly, but the naivety (read: stupidity) of some people is mind boggling. They honestly want to believe the bullshit, for example that no totalitarian government will store the covid1984 tracking apps data pointing straight to sex clubs, and that FKK clubs will destroy the data after 10 days.
And then they'll go: "yeah but I'm not married, so I don't care." Well Optimist and Lanthano: do you have a job? Do you have a bank account? Do you have relatives and friends? (a quick search on Facebook by the people who have your data will probably reveal a lot) People are getting "cancelled" because of politically incorrect thoughts or behaviour, so how high do you think that some white heterosexual sex tourist fucking 'exploited women from poor Eastern European countries' will score on the 'to-be-cancelled-list' in the US?
What happens to those lists with names, phone numbers and addresses that FKK clubs keep? Do people honestly believe that the police or somebody from the German authorities will check that those lists are destroyed after 10 days? Do you think they care? Hell no, they got the same things in mind! HAHAHAHA!
You are right of course it is legal but it seems that some married guys are not able to assume that they are fucking prostitutes and want to stay private.I was often controlled by polizei just leaving brothels, I couldn't lie and never got problem, when legal business. For sure, when so many married are visiting, according to girls, writing data can make a problem when receiving message about cluster, if wife read message.
Exactly, but the naivety (read: stupidity) of some people is mind boggling. They honestly want to believe the bullshit, for example that no totalitarian government will store the covid1984 tracking apps data pointing straight to sex clubs, and that FKK clubs will destroy the data after 10 days.
And then they'll go: "yeah but I'm not married, so I don't care." Well Optimist and Lanthano: do you have a job? Do you have a bank account? Do you have relatives and friends? (a quick search on Facebook by the people who have your data will probably reveal a lot) People are getting "cancelled" because of politically incorrect thoughts or behaviour, so how high do you think that some white heterosexual sex tourist fucking 'exploited women from poor Eastern European countries' will score on the 'to-be-cancelled-list' in the US?
What happens to those lists with names, phone numbers and addresses that FKK clubs keep? Do people honestly believe that the police or somebody from the German authorities will check that those lists are destroyed after 10 days? Do you think they care? Hell no, they got the same things in mind! HAHAHAHA!How about you stop spreading ridiculous fearmongering around the forum?
Albert Bundy
06-28-21, 00:17
And then they'll go: "yeah but I'm not married, so I don't care." Well Optimist and Lanthano: do you have a job? Do you have a bank account? Do you have relatives and friends? (a quick search on Facebook by the people who have your data will probably reveal a lot) I find it hard to understand how this type of baiting of fellow members adds anything of worth to this forum. Particularly when you strike at two of the most renowned members in Germany FKK Clubs and one member of particular long-standing and outstanding service to this board. I don't believe it makes ISG a better place.
Right now I can visit Brazil but have no desire to do so mainly because I have visited FKKs so often that I have been spoiled and only wish to visit FKKs with no restrictions at this time.I am always open to fuck new beautiful stunner, even when I am sick and I do not want to fuck, I will force myself to fuck beautiful stunner LOL! That is how much I love beautiful stunner!
But! Yes, I am like you, I have been mongering the best of the best stunner since age 17 and I am at Karma saturated satisfied state of mind in my life when it comes to sex life, so I do love to go to FKK or escort that is open here, but it is not worth it for me to risk my life or my lung and also FKK at the moment is not good time to go as many guys are going so it is full with very limited numbers of girls and number of stunners, plus it is all busy, got to wear mask and so on and on. There are too many unknown and distraction at the moment, so not able to enjoy fully! So me too will stay away till things are settle into right places as how we once used to love it to be!
However, for escort, I will begin doing here once I spot new Eurasian stunner that I do like as one of my type! Covid situation is calm now, but I won't push my luck and do it too much to extent of going to FKK, but escort here and there won't be that risky! The issue for me is to find the stunner enough girl for me to fuck usually takes hours in FKK or even going to few FKK in one day to find the one or for escort it usually takes 2 to 3 months to find the one LOL! I became that picky as I always have been, but lately it is becoming even more crazy insane level picky LOL! I am spoil yes, but I am grateful to have the life opportunity to accomplish such an amazing sex life and to be continue! For now let us stay put because I hear longer you wait, pay off taste better and pay off is sure thing as long as we survive! Make a good use of your memory and your right hand or masturbation hole for now LOL!
I see you have a professor degree in marketing!Never! Ever! Underestimate the power of 50 Euro! 50 Euro will only get you a dinner for two in mediocre restaurant in USA, but 50 Euro get you a young stunner in German FKK, where girls eat and drink your Cum for extra 50 Euro and lick Anal clean after shit for extra 50 Euro for Dr Ho for his sick mind, and Extra 100 Euro, Dr Cane get to stretch some young stunner's anal tissues to bling bling his sick mind LOL!
50 Euro AKA Dr Ho, featuring 100 Euro AKA Dr Cane, the 100 Euro Anal stretcher AKA 100 Euro man LOL!
Super natural 50 Euro go beyond the natures rule to make the stunners what her daddy do not want her to do LOL!
50 Euro AKA Anal licking receiver at Westkreuz United LOL!
Fun in going the club will be lost because if we have to obey a lot of conditions. IMHO things will be normal as it was in the past when the present critical situation get diluted. But the situation I expect to happen that the management and the ladies will use the present scenario to up sell the service provided for the consumers. Unity of consumers of clubs are only through anonymous forums, so we are in the back foot. So a proper discussion will be needed to maintain the charm of visiting clubs as before.
I'm a believer in paying for services rendered as well, and choose to opt for a 100 E /60 M session instead of haggling for a 50 E /30 M session. However, if they were to raise their price upon my next trip and say 150 E /60 M with DFK / BBBJ I'd try to at least bargain downwards based off past experiences. I'd at least want an extra like CIM or A. If unsuccessful I'd be upset momentarily, but would likely be forced to reconcile those differences and pay the higher rate. Traveling on a cross country flight and turning down a session over 50 euros doesn't quite make sense.
Tipping extra is different IMO, and I'm fine with an extra 10-20 E but it varies per person.
It's a business and they're allowed to charge whatever rates they choose. You as well can go find other clubs, not a big deal. Thinking "other men will not go" is equivalent to being out of touch with reality. The market has already spoken given that more men showed up than girls on opening night. Highly doubt that people traveling across Europe, Asia, USA are going to cancel a trip over 50 euros. You're too caught up in the money and not thinking about the experience and enjoyment. These girls are there to make money and they will upcharge for services because they can as long as people are willing to say yes. One shouldn't dictate how another spends their time and money.
I never quite understood this infatuation with being frugal towards mongering. So many people feel "entitlement" to DFK / BBBJ services being standard for 50 euros. It's a common tactic to have a Basic package and Premium package. Standards change over time especially now given the risks of COVID. Besides that have you ever heard of inflation? 50 Euros 1-2 years ago ain't the same as 50 Euros now. These girls were likely hit the hardest I'm sure they could use the extra 50-100 euros more than you. Quit being cheap and treating them like machines, instead have a bit of compassion and pay them a fair rate for their services.
Very well said! I remember when I was finishing off college years ago someone explained to me that, in a free market, you're worth as much as someone is willing to pay you. You nailed the "entitlement" attitude and inflation. When the FKK system started 20 years ago, it was setup to be 50 Euros for 30 minutes that included DFK and BBBJ. It seems unreasonable today to expect the service to be exactly the same like 20 years ago for 50 Euros. Do you spend the same amount on a barber visit as you did 20 years ago? Do you get charged for the same hourly rate to repair your car at a mechanical shop as you did 20 years ago? Do you pay for the same ticket price to watch a professional football game in person in a stadium as you did 20 years ago? I can go on and on. Lets get real here. Almost every thing and service are more expensive today than they were 20 years ago because of inflation. Here is a big question. Do you get paid from your job, at least nominally, as much or more as you did 20 years ago? I hope the answer is more. If you're OK with that but not OK with the girls getting paid more to keep up with inflation, you're a hypocrite. Don't get me wrong. I'd love to pay 50 Euros that includes every GFE service I want with a super model for God sake, but I also recognize the economic reality of how things are going today.
I agree with the argument about paying for the service rendered, but in many cases thats not whats happening. Have you ever wondered why we dont see that many hot young chics, especially the German/Polish/Russian ones, working in the clubs anymore, or they showed up few days and then disappeared? Expecting them to provide the GFE services for 50 Euros as the way it was 20 years ago is like expecting them to get a paid cut for the same service if you consider inflation. Thats exactly what many of you are asking for. No wonder we dont see any German stunner working at these clubs anymore. Gee, why didnt all the chics with 8 or above just come to the clubs and let everybody fucked for 50 Euros. I wonder what incentive they would have to work in the clubs. Hmmm, let me think. (Sense little bit of sarcasm here?) To get the equivalent of 50 Euros 20 years ago, the girls need to make at least 75 Euros /30 minutes according to the inflation link below. That calculation is based on CPI (Consumer Price Index) which, many economists rightfully argue, dont completely reflect the true inflation because CPI excludes the prices of food and energy. In fact, many top tier girls already reasonably asked for 150 Euros for 1 hour of passionate GFE session couple years ago which I had no problem to oblige. That was NOT overpaying, NOT even close after adjusting for inflation. I dont advocate to overpay the girls. Im simply pointing out the insidiousness of inflation that many mongers dont seem to have a fucking clue about. Whether you agree if CPI should apply to P4P doesnt matter. The fact is that all the women from the clubs will end up spending your Euros on manicure, makeup, transportation, groceries, rent, etc. All of which have all gone up in prices. They could buy more stuff with the same 50 Euros 20 years ago for sure. Thats the bottom line. (Note that the currency unit in the link is in dollar, but the inflation rate calculation for Euro is not that much different because both currencies track each other relatively.)
www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/2001?amount=50
A lot of the grumbling about some mongers overpaying the girls probably stem from jealousy, resentment, and/or insecurity. Many mongers have the gall to lecture others to not over pay or go somewhere else so they think they can maintain the same pricing structure like 20 years ago. Good luck with that. They talk like as if they care about the locals, but in fact they are threatened by their own financial insecurity. Are you resentful that some international mongers have the financial mean to pay the girls more than you can afford or want to? You are making at least 50% more than you are 20 years ago at least in nominal term. Right? If yes, what do you complain about 75 Euros /30 or 150 Euros /60 mins session? You dont really pay more in real term. If you are not making more money over the past 20 years, why arent you? Thats the question you should ask yourself seriously instead of just blaming how other mongers can screw up your affordability to play in this hobby. If you are making more money today, why would you care if the other mongers pay the girls more (even though many of you keep ignoring inflation)? These so called over pay international mongers may have some effect in the pricing system, but they are not really the ones to blame. There is something else at play here that no one else seems to want to talk about. Ill get to that point in a different post if I get motivated enough since its getting long here.
I bet many of you feel like to chime in to make a point that you can find some hotties doing DFK and BBBJ for 50 Euros. I suspect that those are not the top notch girls that many would consider stunners. I bet if you negotiate with Sylvana for 40 Euros for 30 GFE minutes, she would probably consider it because shes not that much in demand (not that I would expect anyone go with her even for free). Would you complain about that? An unattractive girl will probably provide you 30 minutes of GFE for 50 Euros. If you are fine with that, go for it. There is nothing wrong with that. Thats how the market prices a service according to supply and demand from the customers in the clubs. Remember. You are worth as much as someone is willing to pay you. So are the FKK girls.
First of all I would add that prostitution is not a formal job matched to inflation. It's informal unqualified gig-type work, no different than selling watches on the street, or otherwise working door to door.
There is no indexing to inflation for prostitution. Its advantage, only advantage is its remuneration.
The crucial question here is not what the price would be if indexed to inflation, but what it is for them, and what it is comparatively for other jobs in Germany? I will ask the question, before you happily start advocating increasing the price, which jobs in Germany pay 100 euros an hour? (and by giving them the whole hour as "worked" time, I am being very very generous).
On the effect of pay on the availability of "hot" chicks, which is relative, I would say that a direct relation is not clearly established. 90% of the girls are from Eastern Europe, Romania and Bulgaria, who essentially migrate her to work in the clubs, some for very short periods of time before returning home. What they are earning here is not what they would be earning back home, amongst locals, I promise you, and that factors in further that they are working illegally there, in much less clean and safe surroundings, and with probably much worse customers.
New girls come and go in all the time, of different ages, for different reasons, whether in the FKK clubs or the RLD. I am not seeing what you have been seeing. Nostalgia from 20 years ago doesn't help give an objective view of the situation.
In fact, many top tier girls already reasonably asked for 150 Euros for 1 hour of passionate GFE session couple years ago which I had no problem to oblige.There is probably a good reason for that, inflation not being it.
I bet many of you feel like to chime in to make a point that you can find some hotties doing DFK and BBBJ for 50 Euros. I suspect that those are not the top notch girls that many would consider stunners. That's an irrefutable argument isn't it: "I am paying fair value for stunners. If you are paying less, then those girls aren't stunners".
You would be surprised what you can negotiate with the willingness to say no.
Many mongers have the gall to lecture others to not over pay or go somewhere else so they think they can maintain the same pricing structure like 20 years ago. Good luck with that. They talk like as if they care about the locals, but in fact they are threatened by their own financial insecurity.
Are you resentful that some international mongers have the financial mean to pay the girls more than you can afford or want to? You are making at least 50% more than you are 20 years ago at least in nominal term. Right? The point stands that there are clubs that are geared towards tourists, and those towards locals. The former have higher prices than the latter. Why is that?
Because whilst the locals come there quite often and relax, the tourist-oriented clubs have a fly-in clientele of people on business trips or on holiday that are quite comfortable to overpay and girls that are happy to oblige. Then people like you come along and make the argument that they're not overpaying, that is now "market-rate". It's not just wrong, but annoying to say the least, Mr. Economics Mastermind.
I will probably post more news as it comes in. Personally I will be waiting a bit longer before diving into an FKK:
-rebalancing with more girls arriving to stop these obscene guest / girl ratios.
-developments in corona restrictions: wearing a mask inside is still a bit of a deal breaker in a place where I want to relax.
-facilities need to be open: sauna, pools, steam baths, food.
Can't wait but unfortunately I will need to.
Very well said! I remember when I was finishing off college years ago someone explained to me that, in a free market, you're worth as much as someone is willing to pay you. You nailed the "entitlement" attitude and inflation. When the FKK system started 20 years ago, it was setup to be 50 Euros for 30 minutes that included DFK and BBBJ. It seems unreasonable today to expect the service to be exactly the same like 20 years ago for 50 Euros. Do you spend the same amount on a barber visit as you did 20 years ago? Do you get charged for the same hourly rate to repair your car at a mechanical shop as you did 20 years ago? Do you pay for the same ticket price to watch a professional football game in person in a stadium as you did 20 years ago? I can go on and on. Lets get real here. Almost every thing and service are more expensive today than they were 20 years ago because of inflation. Here is a big question. Do you get paid from your job, at least nominally, as much or more as you did 20 years ago? I hope the answer is more. If you're OK with that but not OK with the girls getting paid more to keep up with inflation, you're a hypocrite. Don't get me wrong. I'd love to pay 50 Euros that includes every GFE service I want with a super model for God sake, but I also recognize the economic reality of how things are going today.
I agree with the argument about paying for the service rendered, but in many cases thats not whats happening. Have you ever wondered why we dont see that many hot young chics, especially the German/Polish/Russian ones, working in the clubs anymore, or they showed up few days and then disappeared? Expecting them to provide the GFE services for 50 Euros as the way it was 20 years ago is like expecting them to get a paid cut for the same service if you consider inflation. Thats exactly what many of you are asking for..On this reopening, went to Samya Koln and 2 Swiss clubs and also checked king Globe casting. My best room was at Samya for club rate and my lowest with a ex Globe cute girl for nearly twice rate in Switzerland. Pretty Elisa Oase moved to Globe on Summer 2020 after putting silicon after Oase where I got her full flesh perfect tits and pretty, but I won't pay more expensive for silicon, when flesh worth more expensive for me. Switzerland which is more expensive, is not anymore higher level than Germany, when their WGs mostly come from Germany but with less freshness, but more tattoos and silicon. Expensive don t mean quality and same for quantity also not meaning quality. I prefer only 1 beauty on my standard than many average, and now more freshness in Germany, when Switzerland is more complicated for new blood.
First of all I would add that prostitution is not a formal job matched to inflation. It's informal unqualified gig-type work, no different than selling watches on the street, or otherwise working door to door.
There is no indexing to inflation for prostitution. Its advantage, only advantage is its remuneration.
The crucial question here is not what the price would be if indexed to inflation, but what it is for them, and what it is comparatively for other jobs in Germany? I will ask the question, before you happily start advocating increasing the price, which jobs in Germany pay 100 euros an hour? (and by giving them the whole hour as "worked" time, I am being very very generous).
On the effect of pay on the availability of "hot" chicks, which is relative, I would say that a direct relation is not clearly established. 90% of the girls are from Eastern Europe, Romania and Bulgaria, who essentially migrate her to work in the clubs, some for very short periods of time before returning home. What they are earning here is not what they would be earning back home, amongst locals, I promise you, and that factors in further that they are working illegally there, in much less clean and safe surroundings, and with probably much worse customers.
New girls come and go in all the time, of different ages, for different reasons, whether in the FKK clubs or the RLD. I am not seeing what you have been seeing. Nostalgia from 20 years ago doesn't help give an objective view of the situation.
There is probably a good reason for that, inflation not being it..Prostitution is a more difficult job than working in office or shop. 80/100/60 is fair rate for me for such difficult job. I was happy for my regulars telling me they made around 5000 in the week minus entry to pay, about 40/60 per day. I was sad for my World regular when I was her only business on some Saturdays nights, with 2 or 3 1 hour rooms with me for 200/300 , or when she came for me, making only 200 with me, when having to pay entry 75/95. I apologized, she answered: no problem. All girls don t worth same rate for me, I prefer to pay more expensive for a beauty than paying for a average look, but my regulars are usually girls who don t speak about money, when grocery kill my desire. Just my subjective from a very different guy, way of thinking, of course.
Exactly, but the naivety (read: stupidity) of some people is mind boggling. They honestly want to believe the bullshit, for example that no totalitarian government will store the covid1984 tracking apps data pointing straight to sex clubs, and that FKK clubs will destroy the data after 10 days.
And then they'll go: "yeah but I'm not married, so I don't care." Well Optimist and Lanthano: do you have a job? Do you have a bank account? Do you have relatives and friends? (a quick search on Facebook by the people who have your data will probably reveal a lot) People are getting "cancelled" because of politically incorrect thoughts or behaviour, so how high do you think that some white heterosexual sex tourist fucking 'exploited women from poor Eastern European countries' will score on the 'to-be-cancelled-list' in the US?
What happens to those lists with names, phone numbers and addresses that FKK clubs keep? Do people honestly believe that the police or somebody from the German authorities will check that those lists are destroyed after 10 days? Do you think they care? Hell no, they got the same things in mind! HAHAHAHA!Why would you care if other people (including me) are willing to give some personal details to the clubs? You are free not to go if you have concerns about your data being shared, although you may be surprised by how much your phone provider and google know about you and your habits. Also ISG is an unsecured website (see the striked padlock in the address bar? So your internet browsing address details may be visible.
All you need is a rogue employee with a desire to make some money by blackmailing married clients.I read something similar happened in Globe, but not by employee, but by third party person taking photo of a married guy going in and out of the club!
But clubs are doing what they can to protect themselves as one cluster will lead to bunch of feminist type politicians crying out loud to try to shut all FKK down for good as they always have been trying for long time LOL!
All I can say is whatta world it has come to hey? LOL! Everyone wearing masks, mass graves were set in some cities around globe, alcohol disinfection at every shop upon entering, pcr test, such and such test, lock down etc It is crazy how the world changed just in course of two years! And above all the last time I got my dick sucked by three different stunners with in about 6 hours within the same day everyday was last year in February LOL! My penis did not see this coming back then LOL!
They could buy more stuff with the same 50 Euros 20 years ago for sure. Thats the bottom line. (Note that the currency unit in the link is in dollar, but the inflation rate calculation for Euro is not that much different because both currencies track each other relatively.)
www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/2001?amount=50.
Why use dollars when the data is available in the relevant currency? https://www.in2013dollars.com/europe/inflation/2002.
Yes the official rate of 50 Euro per half hour has been fixed for a long time, but at least one other factor has moved in favour of most of the girls. The Romanian leu was revalued in July 2005. A Euro in January 2006 was worth 3. 6802 lei, but by the end of 2019 the rate was 4. 7828 or nearly 30% in the girls favour. https://www.ecb.europa.eu/stats/policy_and_exchange_rates/euro_reference_exchange_rates/html/eurofxref-graph-ron.en.html. Over the same time period 50 Euro grew to 60.61 Euro, according to the in2013 dollars link (50 Euro from 2002 was worth 66.98 Euro by the end of 2019). Either way it's some distance from the 50 Euro to 75 Euro jump that you advocate.
You are making at least 50% more than you are 20 years ago at least in nominal term. Right?German wage growth has apparently been very restrained over the last 20 years. In 2000 the average wage was 34,711 and by the start of 2020 it had only risen to 42,421. A mere 22% increase. https://www.statista.com/statistics/416207/average-annual-wages-germany-y-on-y-in-euros/.
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