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I will wait for all those who want to join, on 2 October at the bottom for Verbier. Ch, when one here asked me, now just pride and honor, much more valuable worthy than 1000 poor , to see if writings here can happen for real on the real field. I'm very late for my tour because of much more complicated job under covid, belly, too often raining, now shoulder to recover, but I will make my 25 climbing tour as soon I'm able to start, real obsession for me and my great passion and pleasure for my Summer.FKK is a brothel, so anything written can happen, you just have to pay, that is how the brothel system work, you pay.
You really believe that a Inspector Clouseau who writes thousands of posts on a WG forum 365 days a year will climb a mountain of climb on a bicycle? LOL!
The only thing he climbs is the mountain of bullshit that is standing next to his computer and keyboard.He can ride a bicycle and type on his smart phone at the same time LOL!
Reminds me of when I was in my 20's. I loved playing soccer. I would be extremely horny and would then go play a soccer match. 90 minutes of running around kicking a ball. Total exhilaration. After the match I would have no desire for sex at all.In my 20's, I loved fucking, I would be extremely horny and then go and have sex with young beautiful stunner, 90 minutes of sex emptying my balls, total satisfaction and after the sex, I would have more desire to fuck even more young beautiful stunner, and in my 30's, the same, in my 40's, it is going to be the same, no room for ugly or old women at all LOL!
And yet, he will only be remembered as one of the greatest innovators of our time by mongers like us! In order to have a celebratory Bernd's day, we will probably need to wait until one of us becomes president or head of government!His FKK still stand Rocky! It does not look too promising though!
For the proof of your business trip, you should just take your pant down and show your erected penis to police offices and say "This is the proof" ...Female border guard will say that is not proof. She will say to come with her to back room and prove that you can do business.
Tvataham274
07-22-21, 17:19
I have a trip booked in December. I am assuming that re-entering America from abroad will still require a negative covid test.
Can anyone point me to somewhere in Frankfurt that I can have a test done as a tourist? I am seeing that there are covid testing centers located at the airport, but I'd rather not visit the airport prior to my departure if I can help it.
I have a trip booked in December. I am assuming that re-entering America from abroad will still require a negative covid test.
Can anyone point me to somewhere in Frankfurt that I can have a test done as a tourist? I am seeing that there are covid testing centers located at the airport, but I'd rather not visit the airport prior to my departure if I can help it.Fast test for 5 € at Sharks.
I have a trip booked in December. I am assuming that re-entering America from abroad will still require a negative covid test.
Can anyone point me to somewhere in Frankfurt that I can have a test done as a tourist? I am seeing that there are covid testing centers located at the airport, but I'd rather not visit the airport prior to my departure if I can help it.https://15minutentest.de/de/en/free-citizen-test
Free test. Foreigners included. I emailed to check with them. Digital proof provided. Centres all over the country.
Fast test for 5 at Sharks.I have the same question as I am heading to Germany in September. Will the test at Sharks give us any paperwork so I can show airline staff that I have test result? I know there are some test centers at Frankfurt main train station, but where are they located? As tourist, I like to prepare everything before I go.
Hope someone can give us some hints.
Thanks.
I have the same question as I am heading to Germany in September. Will the test at Sharks give us any paperwork so I can show airline staff that I have test result? I know there are some test centers at Frankfurt main train station, but where are they located? As tourist, I like to prepare everything before I go.
Hope someone can give us some hints.
Thanks.No, Sharks just give You small box for test, if control as they told me.
Female border guard will say that is not proof. She will say to come with her to back room and prove that you can do business.If she is a beautiful stunner police, it would be Mens dream, but usually female police looks like some elephant girl with a wig LOL!
You really believe that a Inspector Clouseau who writes thousands of posts on a WG forum 365 days a year will climb a mountain of climb on a bicycle? LOL!
The only thing he climbs is the mountain of bullshit that is standing next to his computer and keyboard.Only prostitutes in brothel called FKK listen to his insane illusions, but for 50 euro per 30 min LOL!
FKK is a brothel, so anything written can happen, you just have to pay, that is how the brothel system work, you pay.Everybody can write bullshits about brothels, reason why I only believe what I see or experience, but for real sports, no bullshits, only the field talk. Even I'm very late and didn't start yet my tour when I started on end of May on last year, but if one really come, I will drive more than 1200 kms to the bottom of Verbier and pay cost for him on 2 October he chose, but I'm pretty sure, I will be on my own there. Many followers here and in FKK land, some guys looking with which girls I go in clubs, but none of these too many followers never told me they want to follow me for sports.
I have the same question as I am heading to Germany in September. Will the test at Sharks give us any paperwork so I can show airline staff that I have test result? I know there are some test centers at Frankfurt main train station, but where are they located? As tourist, I like to prepare everything before I go.
Hope someone can give us some hints.
Thanks.I think the credibility of brothel is not very high in society, and PCR tests certified by FKK Sharks may not get you very far LOL!
https://15minutentest.de/de/en/free-citizen-test
Free test. Foreigners included. I emailed to check with them. Digital proof provided. Centres all over the country.It is very civil and nice of Germany to allow even foreigners to take free tests actually.
It is very civil and nice of Germany to allow even foreigners to take free tests actually.It is in their own self interest. A simple test done at mass scale costs a few bucks or perhaps even cheaper. The cost of letting an infected foreigner inside the country, letting that person roam around free and infecting others, and that leading to clusters of infections which can slow down their own economy or hospitalizing their own citizens who healthcare then would cost massive amounts, well that is incalculable.
If a country makes the decision to open up their borders to outsiders, this is a very commonsense, minimal investment. If they are not willing to spend even a few bucks for a free test for the foreigner, they should shut their borders and stop foreigners from coming in.
As such, they are still dependent on the foreigner voluntarily taking this test. The guy could have been infected just recently which evades the test at the border checkpoint and later be fully infected and in turn infecting others. If he voluntarily takes the test and is positive, I imagine their local authorities will swoop in and isolate that dude. In this case, desperate mongers are willing to take the test because they want to go in, but any slimeball foreigner who is selfish could possible keep it to himself and infect many by not taking the test.
I have the same question as I am heading to Germany in September. Will the test at Sharks give us any paperwork so I can show airline staff that I have test result? I know there are some test centers at Frankfurt main train station, but where are they located? As tourist, I like to prepare everything before I go.
Hope someone can give us some hints.
Thanks.No, it probably won't as it's not an official test from the testing centres. Chances are you can get another at the airport. To play it safe, get a proper one which will be valid for both, provided it isn't more than 24 hours old.
The test at the front desk will just let you in the club, nothing more.
No, it probably won't as it's not an official test from the testing centres. Chances are you can get another at the airport. To play it safe, get a proper one which will be valid for both, provided it isn't more than 24 hours old.
The test at the front desk will just let you in the club, nothing more.Really appreciated!
I am fully vaccinated and has CDC paper / card. I don't think I will need to take test at Sharks. However, when I am flying back to the States, I will need official paper / phone app of test result 3 days before my flight. I guess I will have to go to airport to get it if I can not get it from Frankfurt HBF.
No, it probably won't as it's not an official test from the testing centres. Chances are you can get another at the airport. To play it safe, get a proper one which will be valid for both, provided it isn't more than 24 hours old.
The test at the front desk will just let you in the club, nothing more.Can't the club write the results down on a form then it can be used to travel?
Or can we just take the used test showing the negative result?
It is in their own self interest. A simple test done at mass scale costs a few bucks or perhaps even cheaper. The cost of letting an infected foreigner inside the country, letting that person roam around free and infecting others, and that leading to clusters of infections which can slow down their own economy or hospitalizing their own citizens who healthcare then would cost massive amounts, well that is incalculable.
If a country makes the decision to open up their borders to outsiders, this is a very commonsense, minimal investment. If they are not willing to spend even a few bucks for a free test for the foreigner, they should shut their borders and stop foreigners from coming in.
As such, they are still dependent on the foreigner voluntarily taking this test. The guy could have been infected just recently which evades the test at the border checkpoint and later be fully infected and in turn infecting others. If he voluntarily takes the test and is positive, I imagine their local authorities will swoop in and isolate that dude. In this case, desperate mongers are willing to take the test because they want to go in, but any slimeball foreigner who is selfish could possible keep it to himself and infect many by not taking the test.I don't think the local authorities will swoop in and isolate any infected person. According to all research I have done there is no funding to isolate people and they are left to their own devices. This could be a huge problem if the infected person is on the streets for 3 months or longer for the test to become negative and thereby stranded and unable to fly home and unable to pay for a hotel for such a long period.
Really appreciated!
I am fully vaccinated and has CDC paper / card. I don't think I will need to take test at Sharks. However, when I am flying back to the States, I will need official paper / phone app of test result 3 days before my flight. I guess I will have to go to airport to get it if I can not get it from Frankfurt HBF.This is Germany. The CDC paper is worthless at Sharks. Plus, ever think what happens if you test positive on return. Hope you budgeted for extra 2 weeks in Germany and costs for extra tests. A brothel is not the safest place.
This is Germany. The CDC paper is worthless at Sharks. Plus, ever think what happens if you test positive on return. Hope you budgeted for extra 2 weeks in Germany and costs for extra tests. A brothel is not the safest place.Have confirmation from American based in France that both Sharks and Samya take CDC vax cards.
Have confirmation from American based in France that both Sharks and Samya take CDC vax cards.Then it is just for formalities as one can fake one of those foreign papers and cards. PCR test should be more accurate way to secure the venue, but man! We need virus test to go and fuck prostitutes in brothel? What is this world coming to LOL!
It is in their own self interest. A simple test done at mass scale costs a few bucks or perhaps even cheaper. The cost of letting an infected foreigner inside the country, letting that person roam around free and infecting others, and that leading to clusters of infections which can slow down their own economy or hospitalizing their own citizens who healthcare then would cost massive amounts, well that is incalculable.
If a country makes the decision to open up their borders to outsiders, this is a very commonsense, minimal investment. If they are not willing to spend even a few bucks for a free test for the foreigner, they should shut their borders and stop foreigners from coming in.
As such, they are still dependent on the foreigner voluntarily taking this test. The guy could have been infected just recently which evades the test at the border checkpoint and later be fully infected and in turn infecting others. If he voluntarily takes the test and is positive, I imagine their local authorities will swoop in and isolate that dude. In this case, desperate mongers are willing to take the test because they want to go in, but any slimeball foreigner who is selfish could possible keep it to himself and infect many by not taking the test.They will sell the data or make good use of it for the research as well!
But I wonder if this free test places are functioning with reasonable wait like 30 min max wait, if not, these are just there and not functioning to the extent that it is not really there.
I don't think the local authorities will swoop in and isolate any infected person. According to all research I have done there is no funding to isolate people and they are left to their own devices. This could be a huge problem if the infected person is on the streets for 3 months or longer for the test to become negative and thereby stranded and unable to fly home and unable to pay for a hotel for such a long period.Yes, "swoop in" is a bit of hyper flourish on my part. I have no idea what Germans are doing if a foreigner tests positive inside their country. Since there is no mandatory isolation enforced for the infected locals, what they might do infected foreigners is unclear. What happens if an incoming foreigner tests positive at the immigration counter, border checkpoint? Are they still being let in? If not, can they not cancel your permit to stay inside the country if you test positive?
These are evolving policies. Even if things are one way this week, they might change by next week.
The point is, once the foreigner is inside the country, some of them have a perverse incentive to not test for fear of negative reaction from the local government. If the country keeps charging for it, they will test even less. But they CAN spread if they are infected, and it is in the interest of the local government to pay a few bucks and facilitate these tests.
I have a trip booked in December. I am assuming that re-entering America from abroad will still require a negative covid test.
Can anyone point me to somewhere in Frankfurt that I can have a test done as a tourist? I am seeing that there are covid testing centers located at the airport, but I'd rather not visit the airport prior to my departure if I can help it.
I have the same question as I am heading to Germany in September. Will the test at Sharks give us any paperwork so I can show airline staff that I have test result? I know there are some test centers at Frankfurt main train station, but where are they located? As tourist, I like to prepare everything before I go.It seems like some of you only think of one way. I think the more important question for any international monger should ask is "How should I prepare for if I end up testing Covid positive before flying back home?" What if you end up testing positive for Covid the day before you fly back to, say, the USA or Canada? Do you have another plan? Even though many of us are relatively young and healthy, we still can get Covid without knowing it even if some of you are vaccinated. To me, that's a bigger problem than worrying about getting Covid which I don't give a shit about. I care more about not being able to fly back home. That can really throw a wrench in anyone's plan if not prepared.
Will the airlines allow you to get on a flight if you are Covid positive? I guess not. How would your airlines handle that kind of situation? Would they reschedule your flights without any rebooking fee? What do you do then? Stay quarantine for two weeks and get tested again until you become Covid negative before you're allowed to fly again? Will the Germany government mandate you to stay in some kind of quarantine facilities? What if you still have Covid after two weeks? Then what? Are you OK to stay in Germany for another month? How will that process play out? I assume many of you need to get back to work. Right? In that case, can I assume that you probably want to bring with you any work related laptop so you can do work remotely if possible? Is that how you prepare in advance? If you work for a company, would you kind of forewarn or hint to your boss in advance that you may need to take few extra weeks off, just in case? What if you don't have any more vacation days left? I wonder if any of you international mongers has prepared for or, at least, thought about that kind of scenario. Any fly-in monger got stuck in that kind of dilemma before? How would you deal with it? It's good to prepare everything before flying into Germany. It's just as important to prepare how to get out of Germany under the kind of Covid reality we're living in right now, sadly.
The fly in people could end up like Tom H. In the hit movie The Terminal.
Stuck in an airport with not way to leave. Sort of like the USA disavows a return of its citizens leaves them stuck in Germany. The other things is that according to the CDC is that one can test positive well over three months.
It seems like some of you only think of one way. I think the more important question for any international monger should ask is "How should I prepare for if I end up testing Covid positive before flying back home?" What if you end up testing positive for Covid the day before you fly back to, say, the USA or Canada? Do you have another plan? Even though many of us are relatively young and healthy, we still can get Covid without knowing it even if some of you are vaccinated. To me, that's a bigger problem than worrying about getting Covid which I don't give a shit about. I care more about not being able to fly back home. That can really throw a wrench in anyone's plan if not prepared.
Will the airlines allow you to get on a flight if you are Covid positive? I guess not. How would your airlines handle that kind of situation? Would they reschedule your flights without any rebooking fee? What do you do then? Stay quarantine for two weeks and get tested again until you become Covid negative before you're allowed to fly again? Will the Germany government mandate you to stay in some kind of quarantine facilities? What if you still have Covid after two weeks? Then what? Are you OK to stay in Germany for another month? How will that process play out? I assume many of you need to get back to work. Right? In that case, can I assume that you probably want to bring with you any work related laptop so you can do work remotely if possible? Is that how you prepare in advance? If you work for a company, would you kind of forewarn or hint to your boss in advance that you may need to take few extra weeks off, just in case? What if you don't have any more vacation days left? I wonder if any of you international mongers has prepared for or, at least, thought about that kind of scenario. Any fly-in monger got stuck in that kind of dilemma before? How would you deal with it? It's good to prepare everything before flying into Germany. It's just as important to prepare how to get out of Germany under the kind of Covid reality we're living in right now, sadly.
I don't think the local authorities will swoop in and isolate any infected person. According to all research I have done there is no funding to isolate people and they are left to their own devices. This could be a huge problem if the infected person is on the streets for 3 months or longer for the test to become negative and thereby stranded and unable to fly home and unable to pay for a hotel for such a long period.So now, you go to FKK mongering and may get kidnapped LOL!
I would say, realistically speaking, it is much better off to wait till next year if this calms down, it is not really worth going with all this hassle and limited lineup!
The fly in people could end up like Tom H. In the hit movie The Terminal.
Stuck in an airport with not way to leave. Sort of like the USA disavows a return of its citizens leaves them stuck in Germany. The other things is that according to the CDC is that one can test positive well over three months.Just make sure you got travel router with access to wifi all the time anywhere and your PC with full battery, so that you can always jerk off in any airport toilet LOL! Flying monger turned flying wanker LOL!
I would say, stay home!
Can't the club write the results down on a form then it can be used to travel?
Or can we just take the used test showing the negative result?Dr Poon, with your Dr head, You really think the society will accept the corona virus test results from brothel? LOL! Even they do, I will be very careful where to show that paper, you might get a lot of uncomfortable smile here and there LOL!
These vaccine passport thing will never work, unless it is united to few of them, G7 nations and EU should unite to make just one or two that works in members nations to begin with, the rest can follow! Or it is simple mess and confusion LOL!
Then it is just for formalities as one can fake one of those foreign papers and cards. PCR test should be more accurate way to secure the venue, but man! We need virus test to go and fuck prostitutes in brothel? What is this world coming to LOL!True, I'm sure brothel owners don't really care all that much.
But it is not just CDC cards that are easy to counterfeit. Yellow WHO immunization cards are also pretty easy. But at least those use ink stamps making it slightly more difficult.
Lucky Nuts
07-24-21, 12:45
This is Germany. The CDC paper is worthless at Sharks. Plus, ever think what happens if you test positive on return. Hope you budgeted for extra 2 weeks in Germany and costs for extra tests. A brothel is not the safest place.Sharks, Oase, Finca Erotica, World and Palace all accept our little white USA card showing our vaccinations dates and vaccine type.
It seems like some of you only think of one way. I think the more important question for any international monger should ask is "How should I prepare for if I end up testing Covid positive before flying back home?" What if you end up testing positive for Covid the day before you fly back to, say, the USA or Canada? Do you have another plan? Even though many of us are relatively young and healthy, we still can get Covid without knowing it even if some of you are vaccinated. To me, that's a bigger problem than worrying about getting Covid which I don't give a shit about. I care more about not being able to fly back home. That can really throw a wrench in anyone's plan if not prepared.
Another consideration is to look at the present transmission rate of the virus. I changed my trip from Medellin to Germany because Germany has one of the lowest transmission rates in the world right now while Medellin has one of the highest. I use this website in deciding where to travel next: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/biweekly-covid-cases-per-million-people.
They will sell the data or make good use of it for the research as well!
But I wonder if this free test places are functioning with reasonable wait like 30 min max wait, if not, these are just there and not functioning to the extent that it is not really there.Book online with time slots. Looks typically organised. Darmstadt looks like the testing capital of Germany. A test centre round the corner from Darmstadt HBF.
I think you need a proper mask to get in or they will provide.
https://15minutentest.de/de/en/free-citizen-test
Hessen Bob
07-24-21, 15:42
The fly in people could end up like Tom H. In the hit movie The Terminal. Stuck in an airport with not way to leave.No need to worry. There are few if any fly in people.
It seems like some of you only think of one way. I think the more important question for any international monger should ask is "How should I prepare for if I end up testing Covid positive before flying back home?" What if you end up testing positive for Covid the day before you fly back to, say, the USA or Canada? Do you have another plan? Even though many of us are relatively young and healthy, we still can get Covid without knowing it even if some of you are vaccinated. To me, that's a bigger problem than worrying about getting Covid which I don't give a shit about. I care more about not being able to fly back home. That can really throw a wrench in anyone's plan if not prepared.
Will the airlines allow you to get on a flight if you are Covid positive? I guess not. How would your airlines handle that kind of situation? Would they reschedule your flights without any rebooking fee? What do you do then? Stay quarantine for two weeks and get tested again until you become Covid negative before you're allowed to fly again? Will the Germany government mandate you to stay in some kind of quarantine facilities? What if you still have Covid after two weeks? Then what? Are you OK to stay in Germany for another month? How will that process play out? I assume many of you need to get back to work. Right? In that case, can I assume that you probably want to bring with you any work related laptop so you can do work remotely if possible? Is that how you prepare in advance? If you work for a company, would you kind of forewarn or hint to your boss in advance that you may need to take few extra weeks off, just in case? What if you don't have any more vacation days left? I wonder if any of you international mongers has prepared for or, at least, thought about that kind of scenario. Any fly-in monger got stuck in that kind of dilemma before? How would you deal with it? It's good to prepare everything before flying into Germany. It's just as important to prepare how to get out of Germany under the kind of Covid reality we're living in right now, sadly.You bring up some good arguments. The point is that there are quite a few uncertainties. Rules are evolving from week to week and liable to change at short notice. Look at the amount of misinformation even on this forum itself, how many simple questions are asked and the wide gamut of answers in response to those simple questions.
If you buy plane ticket and your hotel reservation weeks in advance to get a cheaper fare, you do run the risk that situation may be different by the date of outbound and return travels. How they may be different, and the exact amount of downside is not knowable with any precision. If you book a trans Atlantic flight a month ahead with the intent of attending fuck clubs, it may end up being a smooth and pleasurable experience or may be more hassle filled. No doubt the guys who do have a good experience will thump their chest and puff up and brag how great they are and how foolish are the others for not following their lead, but as always they minimize the role luck played. Some less fortunate guys may have a lousy experience even if they play by the book.
ExpatLover
07-24-21, 17:28
They will sell the data or make good use of it for the research as well!
But I wonder if this free test places are functioning with reasonable wait like 30 min max wait, if not, these are just there and not functioning to the extent that it is not really there.I often go for testing, never waiting more than 2 minutes mostly the places are empty, like for the vaccination, vaccines are available everywhere for free but not enough candidates.
Possible work around to fly from Europe to Mexico then take a bus to the land border where testing not required to enter via land border. Mexico does not require a covid entry test to board a flight.
You bring up some good arguments. The point is that there are quite a few uncertainties. Rules are evolving from week to week and liable to change at short notice. Look at the amount of misinformation even on this forum itself, how many simple questions are asked and the wide gamut of answers in response to those simple questions.
If you buy plane ticket and your hotel reservation weeks in advance to get a cheaper fare, you do run the risk that situation may be different by the date of outbound and return travels. How they may be different, and the exact amount of downside is not knowable with any precision. If you book a trans Atlantic flight a month ahead with the intent of attending fuck clubs, it may end up being a smooth and pleasurable experience or may be more hassle filled. No doubt the guys who do have a good experience will thump their chest and puff up and brag how great they are and how foolish are the others for not following their lead, but as always they minimize the role luck played. Some less fortunate guys may have a lousy experience even if they play by the book.
Lots of talk about testing and entry here. I would like to know the state of the action inside Sharks!
Lots of talk about testing and entry here. I would like to know the state of the action inside Sharks!Sorry for ranting in the wrong thread. Won't happen again (I hope).
True, I'm sure brothel owners don't really care all that much.
But it is not just CDC cards that are easy to counterfeit. Yellow WHO immunization cards are also pretty easy. But at least those use ink stamps making it slightly more difficult.I think they do because one cluster infection at their club, FKK will be blamed for every bad things happened in this planet by society, fed and feminists LOL!
I often go for testing, never waiting more than 2 minutes mostly the places are empty, like for the vaccination, vaccines are available everywhere for free but not enough candidates.German efficiency! Vaccines is question mark for mid to long term side effect and only effective for around 6 months to max one year!
Book online with time slots. Looks typically organised. Darmstadt looks like the testing capital of Germany. A test centre round the corner from Darmstadt HBF.
I think you need a proper mask to get in or they will provide.
https://15minutentest.de/de/en/free-citizen-testGerman always know how to do things like their brothels, our beloved FKK LOL!
New restrictions for NL entering Germany.
Anyone who has spent time in the Netherlands and wants to enter Germany will be required to show proof of a recent negative coronavirus test result. They will then have to enter quarantine for up to ten days, though they can leave isolation after five days if they again test negative for the viral infection.
People who have proof of being fully vaccinated against Covid-19 or proof of recovery from the disease are exempt from both requirements. To avoid quarantine, travelers must register their evidence with the German authorities using the government's online portal.
https://nltimes.nl/2021/07/23/germany-tightens-coronavirus-restrictions-netherlands.
Lucky Nuts
07-25-21, 01:20
Lots of talk about testing and entry here. I would like to know the state of the action inside Sharks!Lots of girls sitting around waiting for guys with money to show up. No joke. Unfortunately most are thicker than I like. If you like thick girls you will be in heaven. Ok well there are a few hot girls too but they want more money than they did before Covid. Bottom line it's not that different than before Covid except the hotter girls have learned they can charge more than before. My guess is the German guys were paying higher prices to see these same girls in apartments and now the girls expect the same at Sharks.
Lucky Nuts
07-25-21, 01:33
No need to worry. There are few if any fly in people.LOL Bob I ran into four other Americans in Sharks tonight. We are not the problem. It's the Germans that have given the hot girls an expectation of more money than before Covid.
I will post reports from my club visits after I'm done burning the candle at both ends here.
I'm into thick and reading this just makes my heart beat, are we talking thick with curves or what? Care to elaborate?
Lots of girls sitting around waiting for guys with money to show up. No joke. Unfortunately most are thicker than I like. If you like thick girls you will be in heaven. Ok well there are a few hot girls too but they want more money than they did before Covid. Bottom line it's not that different than before Covid except the hotter girls have learned they can charge more than before. My guess is the German guys were paying higher prices to see these same girls in apartments and now the girls expect the same at Sharks.
I'm into thick and reading this just makes my heart beat, are we talking thick with curves or what? Care to elaborate?I think European girls are not anywhere near the weight of American women. I don't think we have anything terrible to worry about. Sooner or later they will be back to form. At least in Germany they don't have food additives and genetically modified foods which pack on weight and most people walk a lot more there.
Lucky Nuts
07-25-21, 08:23
I'm into thick and reading this just makes my heart beat, are we talking thick with curves or what? Care to elaborate? Duplicate reposted with edit
Lucky Nuts
07-25-21, 08:25
I'm into thick and reading this just makes my heart beat, are we talking thick with curves or what? Care to elaborate?Pretty much the same girls from before Covid. But no Brenda seen in the last week just as I thought I might give her a try. Yes you will find plenty of curves to your liking. My taste is exactly the look of the pretty and petite Ella but there was a negative report on her. Talked with an American guy last night said he had a good session with her so I'm probably going to pay up and try her. She refused a 50 E /30 whatever offer I made a couple days ago. Even though she is just sitting around available more often than not LOL. As are most of the girls. I don't see a supply / demand imbalance.
ExpatLover
07-25-21, 08:35
Pretty much the same girls from before Covid. But no Brenda seen in the last week just as I thought I might give her a try. Yes you will find plenty of curves to your liking. My taste is exactly the look of the pretty and petite Ella but there was a negative report on her. Talked with an American guy last night said he had a good session with her so I'm probably going to pay up and try her. She refused a 50 E /30 whatever offer I made a couple days ago. Even though she is just sitting around available more often than not LOL. As are most of the girls. I don't see a supply / demand imbalance.Some people always need to get secured by taking advice from others, don t read other reports on girls, go with them and make your own opinion. When I mongered a lot in FKK I never reported about the best girls just to not increase the competition with other mongers.
Renegade Slice
07-25-21, 10:42
Hi,
I was wondering what toys and equipment that are usually available at FKK clubs. More specifically if I have a request for pegging with strapon, would they be likely to have the required equipment available at the club? If so would most girls be able to offer that service?
Thanks in advance!
Hessen Bob
07-25-21, 13:02
LOL Bob I ran into four other Americans in Sharks tonight. We are not the problem. It's the Germans that have given the hot girls an expectation of more money than before Covid.
I will post reports from my club visits after I'm done burning the candle at both ends here.
Lots of girls sitting around waiting for guys with money to show up. No joke. Unfortunately most are thicker than I like. If you like thick girls you will be in heaven. Ok well there are a few hot girls too but they want more money than they did before Covid. Bottom line it's not that different than before Covid except the hotter girls have learned they can charge more than before. My guess is the German guys were paying higher prices to see these same girls in apartments and now the girls expect the same at SharksFunny. I was in Sharks last night and none of my group encountered anyone from an English-speaking country. Certainly no one from USA. You sure you don't get your information like Jimmy Fiddle from LS? Your news particularly on pricing seems to be outdated. Maybe like many you dream of Sharks.
Pretty much the same girls from before Covid. But no Brenda seen in the last week just as I thought I might give her a try.....Brenda stays for 2/3 weeks then goes home to Romania for 2/3 weeks. To coincide your trip with meeting her in the club you have to know when she arrived or when she left.
Brenda stays for 2/3 weeks then goes home to Romania for 2/3 weeks. To coincide your trip with meeting her in the club you have to know when she arrived or when she left.Seen on Fridays 9 and 16, but not 23. Also no Ester I saw before, but her blond silicon friend was there.
Don't confuse thick with fat; not into fat at all.
I think European girls are not anywhere near the weight of American women. I don't think we have anything terrible to worry about. Sooner or later they will be back to form. At least in Germany they don't have food additives and genetically modified foods which pack on weight and most people walk a lot more there.
Will be there on Saturday, hopefully this brenda gril will be there, or a similar body type!
Thanks,
Pretty much the same girls from before Covid. But no Brenda seen in the last week just as I thought I might give her a try. Yes you will find plenty of curves to your liking. My taste is exactly the look of the pretty and petite Ella but there was a negative report on her. Talked with an American guy last night said he had a good session with her so I'm probably going to pay up and try her. She refused a 50 E /30 whatever offer I made a couple days ago. Even though she is just sitting around available more often than not LOL. As are most of the girls. I don't see a supply / demand imbalance.
Hi,
I was wondering what toys and equipment that are usually available at FKK clubs. More specifically if I have a request for pegging with strapon, would they be likely to have the required equipment available at the club? If so would most girls be able to offer that service?
Thanks in advance!There is a dedicated BDSM room downstairs in Sharks and top floor Oase but you'll need to bring your own pegs and strapon! No such toys "for hire" even before covid and almost no chance of that now. You will find some girls will try anything for the right cash and provided it is you receiving the pegging and strapon I think you'd find plenty prepared to earn their cash doing just that. And becoming experts at taking a long time to apply the pegs and a long time to remove them! Hope you give it a try and report back. Would be a fun read!
There is a dedicated BDSM room downstairs in Sharks and top floor Oase but you'll need to bring your own pegs and strapon! No such toys "for hire" even before covid and almost no chance of that now. You will find some girls will try anything for the right cash and provided it is you receiving the pegging and strapon I think you'd find plenty prepared to earn their cash doing just that. And becoming experts at taking a long time to apply the pegs and a long time to remove them! Hope you give it a try and report back. Would be a fun read!Also SM room upstairs at Sharks, on the right and right in the corridor. Maybe with granny Sylvana?
Funny. I was in Sharks last night and none of my group encountered anyone from an English-speaking country. Certainly no one from USA. You sure you don't get your information like Jimmy Fiddle from LS? Your news particularly on pricing seems to be outdated. Maybe like many you dream of Sharks.There is no constitutional requirement that the USA speak English. If Sleepy Joe has his way Spanish will soon be the official language. At one point, Spain, owned much of the Western USA so it seems legit.
Stay home, open your pc, be sure WIFI is strong, and make good use of your right hand LOL!
Lucky Nuts
07-26-21, 01:40
Funny. I was in Sharks last night and none of my group encountered anyone from an English-speaking country. Certainly no one from USA. You sure you don't get your information like Jimmy Fiddle from LS? Your news particularly on pricing seems to be outdated. Maybe like many you dream of Sharks.Hi Bob I spent Sunday again all day in Sharks and again the girls / guys ratio was not bad. I had a 100 E /60 minute session with a well known hot girl that included kissing and BBBJ and ball sucking. I will be there again Tuesday as well. PM me if you like to meet. If we meet I will let you know which girl it was.
I learned from one girl today that my favorite girl will be back starting Monday. I'm looking forward to see her on Tuesday. As always I will post a report with her name included.
Regarding pricing it's all over the map right now. Each girl has her own unique pricing so you have to ask. On Friday night at Palace one girl gave me a 30 minute /50 euro session that included BBBJ and kissing. But yes almost all the hot girls are asking more than that.
I will post my reports with girl names and details soon. Hope to meet you on Tuesday. I will be at Sharks all day and night Tuesday.
Lucky Nuts
07-26-21, 01:52
Seen on Fridays 9 and 16, but not 23. Also no Ester I saw before, but her blond silicon friend was there.Ester was in Sharks all this week but not today Sunday.
I found her attitude much improved compared to pre-covid. She's seems much more humble than before. I had a very nice 50E basic service no extras session with her. She's a great spoonfuck for me at that price. And she's in no hurry to get back to the bar saying she's bored just sitting there. I like a girl like that not in a hurry.
So while I've had luck with a couple girls the hottest girl (in my opinion) at Sharks continues to break my heart and refuse me service at any price. Mirriam from Kyiv Ukraine is the hottie. Damn she's exactly my dream girl. Not sure what her problem is with me but maybe she only wants to provide service to guys closer to her young age. The more she rejects me the more I want her lol. Her older sister even yelled at her telling her to go with me but to no avail. WTF? They sit on that little stage next to the couch under the stairway to heaven.
Ester was in Sharks all this week but not today Sunday.
I found her attitude much improved compared to pre-covid. She's seems much more humble than before. I had a very nice 50E basic service no extras session with her. She's a great spoonfuck for me at that price. And she's in no hurry to get back to the bar saying she's bored just sitting there. I like a girl like that not in a hurry.
So while I've had luck with a couple girls the hottest girl (in my opinion) at Sharks continues to break my heart and refuse me service at any price. Mirriam from Kyiv Ukraine is the hottie. Damn she's exactly my dream girl. Not sure what her problem is with me but maybe she only wants to provide service to guys closer to her young age. The more she rejects me the more I want her lol. Her older sister even yelled at her telling her to go with me but to no avail. WTF? They sit on that little stage next to the couch under the stairway to heaven.Were you on Friday? When I didn't see Ester, but her blond silicon business sister. I don't know who is your claimed Ukrainian, didn't notice her if she works on Fridays. Close to the pole? Yes Ester and her friend don't seem so busy now, like many other girls.
Usually August is pretty dead in FKK land. Most top quality girls take this month off for holiday. Any chance this year is different?
I'm thinking of making a trip early next month before they go into lock-down for another half-year (probably).
Hessen Bob
07-26-21, 14:03
Hi Bob I spent Sunday again all day in Sharks and again the girls / guys ratio was not bad. I had a 100 E /60 minute session with a well known hot girl that included kissing and BBBJ and ball sucking. I will be there again Tuesday as well. PM me if you like to meet. If we meet I will let you know which girl it was.
I learned from one girl today that my favorite girl will be back starting Monday. I'm looking forward to see her on Tuesday. As always I will post a report with her name included.
Regarding pricing it's all over the map right now. Each girl has her own unique pricing so you have to ask. On Friday night at Palace one girl gave me a 30 minute /50 euro session that included BBBJ and kissing. But yes almost all the hot girls are asking more than that.
I will post my reports with girl names and details soon. Hope to meet you on Tuesday. I will be at Sharks all day and night Tuesday.Completely vague. No exact details. Hard to know where your prices refers to. Sharks? Palace? But yet you will meet a complete stranger in Sharks on Tuesday and reveal everything. But not on ISG where you constantly post. Maybe you need to wait for reports from last weekend to be published on LS?
Lets do specifics and stay away from girls with which you have difficulties. Did anything unusual happen in Sharks on Saturday evening? Where now are the wooden huts that were at the back of the garden pre-Covid? What foods were served on Saturday evening?
Ester was in Sharks all this week but not today Sunday.I found her attitude much improved compared to pre-covid. She's seems much more humble than before.....My guess is no Asians around. Ester is a famous Asian hunter. I saw her the last day I was there March 16,2020. Her looks have deteriorated and has not been helped with botox and silicone. Her blonde friend who she hunted with has a much better attitude but unfortunately due to coincidence I never got to session with her as she always approached me when I had someone else in my sights.
My guess is no Asians around. Ester is a famous Asian hunter. I saw her the last day I was there March 16,2020. Her looks have deteriorated and has not been helped with botox and silicone. Her blonde friend who she hunted with has a much better attitude but unfortunately due to coincidence I never got to session with her as she always approached me when I had someone else in my sights.Some Asians are back at Sharks. Ester blond business sister is also silicon and acid / Botox, when there are some model types full of so fresh flesh. 5 for my eyes.
Completely vague. No exact details. Hard to know where your prices refers to. Sharks? Palace? But yet you will meet a complete stranger in Sharks on Tuesday and reveal everything. But not on ISG where you constantly post. Maybe you need to wait for reports from last weekend to be published on LS?
Lets do specifics and stay away from girls with which you have difficulties. Did anything unusual happen in Sharks on Saturday evening? Where now are the wooden huts that were at the back of the garden pre-Covid? What foods were served on Saturday evening?They moved chalets on the right and few on the left. Very average BBQ on Friday, I prefer foods inside.
They moved chalets on the right and few on the left. Very average BBQ on Friday, I prefer foods inside.LOL. This reminds me of the sequence in My Cousin Vinny "Your Honor, please?" "Oh, sorry. " "now Mrs Riley and only Mrs Riley, how many fingers am I holding up now".
Usually August is pretty dead in FKK land. Most top quality girls take this month off for holiday. Any chance this year is different?
I'm thinking of making a trip early next month before they go into lock-down for another half-year (probably).I think they ought not to take an August holiday since they had the prior year as a holiday and they need to be at the clubs.
Usually August is pretty dead in FKK land. Most top quality girls take this month off for holiday. Any chance this year is different?
I'm thinking of making a trip early next month before they go into lock-down for another half-year (probably).Many FKK girls told me winter months are the best to visit, but in my over 10 years in FKK, somehow I hit jackpot level stunner in summer months! Somehow it turned out to be that way during low season!
There is no constitutional requirement that the USA speak English. If Sleepy Joe has his way Spanish will soon be the official language. At one point, Spain, owned much of the Western USA so it seems legit.Precisely, I would say Native Indian people own USA, rest are invaders who decided to stay and exceptions are African American people, who are forced kidnapped victims of those invaders whom mostly originally came from Europe. True history of USA that everyone forgotten or twisted to their liking.
Precisely, I would say Native Indian people own USA, rest are invaders who decided to stay and exceptions are African American people, who are forced kidnapped victims of those invaders whom mostly originally came from Europe. True history of USA that everyone forgotten or twisted to their liking.I agree. And the solution is the send the White American people back to Europe preferably in business class.
I agree. And the solution is the send the White American people back to Europe preferably in business class.Well the solution now is to how to get Eastern European female stunners from Ukraine, Romania etc to invade specific region of Germany called German FKK main bar LOL!
For US, the solution is as it is, beside its chaos here and there, it managed to built biggest and strongest nation in the world, it just came with many casualties and price.
My guess is no Asians around. Ester is a famous Asian hunter. I saw her the last day I was there March 16,2020. Her looks have deteriorated and has not been helped with botox and silicone. Her blonde friend who she hunted with has a much better attitude but unfortunately due to coincidence I never got to session with her as she always approached me when I had someone else in my sights.I think not just Asian, but not many fly in mongers around because there are too many risks to go, the risk of closure and at its best limited line up with many male clients as far as I read on forum, so to fly all the way for such risks and more unknown risks is not worth the travel.
For drive in mongers, I would say it is worth a try if the driving is around let say 3 hours!
HammerTime96
07-28-21, 07:45
I agree. And the solution is the send the White American people back to Europe preferably in business class.Yeah, like in South Africa, just look how 'successful' that country has become since the natives took control. So much wealth, safety, and stability concentrated in one country, and every year it just gets better! / sarc.
ExpatLover
07-28-21, 13:31
I agree. And the solution is the send the White American people back to Europe preferably in business class.Yes but what about Australia, new Zealand?
BigBuddy69
07-28-21, 16:48
Yeah, like in South Africa, just look how 'successful' that country has become since the natives took control. So much wealth, safety, and stability concentrated in one country, and every year it just gets better! / sarc.You're right. All those savages deserve to be taught a good lesson.
Alternative hypothesis: maybe being considered as sub citizens for decades didn't really help?
You're right. All those savages deserve to be taught a good lesson.
Alternative hypothesis: maybe being considered as sub citizens for decades didn't really help?Exactly what I was thinking.
You're right. All those savages deserve to be taught a good lesson.
Alternative hypothesis: maybe being considered as sub citizens for decades didn't really help?If you do a DNA test of all the so called white Americans who trace their lineage from the 1776 most of them have 1/16 or 1/8 Native of African ancestry DNA. The only true white Americans are the late European immigrants who came from 1900 such as Italians and Eastern European leaving poverty in Europe during that time.
HammerTime96
07-28-21, 19:59
You're right. All those savages deserve to be taught a good lesson.
Alternative hypothesis: maybe being considered as sub citizens for decades didn't really help?Again, just like with CONvid1984, your 'theories' and 'facts' don't hold water.
Many Asian countries have been colonized for centuries, and once they kicked out the Europeans they never looked back!
Why is Africa so different? Why doesn't Apple build factories in Africa? Why doesn't Nigeria sell it's oil the same way as Arab countries do and be filthy rich with safe and beautifully paved streets, artificial islands in the shape of a palm in front of it's coastline and a magnet for rich tourists from all over the world, instead of being a total shithole country? Can you figure it out? [Deleted by Admin]
Some locals just told me that Dusseldorf clubs districy (Dolce Vita) are now closing because of the incidence being over 35 per 100 K. I'the prepare for some more districts in NRW closing up. We'll see if the government reexamines thresholds and start basing rules based on hospital cases. That would make more sense.
Well the solution now is to how to get Eastern European female stunners from Ukraine, Romania etc to invade specific region of Germany called German FKK main bar LOL!I will stand by this solution! I do also believe that covid will mutate away totally if this happens en masse. Meaning new club openings and Ukrainians and Belarusians being allowed to work there. Plus lots of new cheap airfares to various airports in Germany.
Yeah, like in South Africa, just look how 'successful' that country has become since the natives took control. So much wealth, safety, and stability concentrated in one country, and every year it just gets better! / sarc.You forgot about Zimbabwe. Oh wait, we all forgot about Zimbabwe.
You're right. All those savages deserve to be taught a good lesson.
Alternative hypothesis: maybe being considered as sub citizens for decades didn't really help?If that was the case, then why are they fighting the Indians in Durban and not the whites?
I agree. And the solution is the send the White American people back to Europe preferably in business class.Brilliant ideas! Let's see. Considering that most of us are mutts, where shall we be sent? What if I am French Irish or Italian German? What about the dude born to Asian mom, German Irish dad and with 1/8 Cherokee blood? Apply Solomon justice principle and ship a limb each to various lands?
I'm planning a trip and thought some might be able to benefit from my research / planning.
I'll be in Frankfurt and plan to visit a couple of the large places there, but I also really want to get up to some of the clubs in NRW as I've never been to those. I also don't want to rent a car this trip.
First, I've found some really good train fares if you are willing to book early and get up early and travel late. On the https://www.bahn.de/p/view/index.shtml site you can click on "Further options" button and select "show our best prices". That way it will give you the cheapest available fares between two cities on the date you wish to travel. I'm leaving Frankfurt at 5:44 (super early!) for Essen for 17.90 Euros. I am returning from Essen (maybe. See below) the next day at 9:16 pm, also for 17.90.
I'm staying at the InterCity Hotel right around the corner from the train station in Essen. Included for my 63.75 Euro rate is a FreeCityTicket for "local" transportation both for the arrival and checkout day. This ticket is valid on buses, street cars, S-Bahn and other local trains throughout the Rhein Ruhr (VRR) area. A map of the area covered is here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/VRR-Netz.gif . Most if not all of The InterCity Hotels around Europe include a local transportation ticket, but many of the FreeCityTickets included with the hotel in other cities cover a relatively small area. The VRR area is huge and includes a huge number of clubs. I know there are a number of hotels (not just InterCity) in thesseldorf, Essen, Duisburg and other places that have this deal. To buy the equivalent of the FreeCityTicket alone would cost 29.80 per day, so nearly a 60 Euro value for 63.75 including a room!
I'll get to Essen early and walk over to the hotel. Hopefully they can check me in, take my bag and and issue me the FreeCityTicket. I doubt they will give me a room right away since I'll be there just after 8 am, but who knows? I'll be pretty disappointed though if I can't get the FreeCityTicket. My plan is to have some breakfast, walk around town for a bit and then take public transportation to hit up one of the clubs at opening. From there I can just do whatever I'm in the mood for. Hit up some other clubs, visit some of the tourist stuff etc. Essen is fairly centrally located and well connected. Trains run late into the night if I want to stay up for a while. I'll sleep in a bit the next day, check out and have another full day for clubs or tourist stuff.
The only thing I'll need to figure out is what to do with my bag after I check out. If I decide to go towards Dortmund, I can just leave the bag at the hotel and come back later and pick it up. If I'm heading south or east I might not want to backtrack, so I might take my bag and leave it in a locker in a train station. One of the nice things about the 17.90 Euro ticket back is that it stops in thesseldorf. If I want, I can get on the train there instead of Essen with no problem and not have to backtrack, as long as I get on the same train number as my ticket is for.
So, if everything goes to plan, I'll have two days in the heart of NRW including round trip from Frankfurt, all VRR transportation and hotel for just under 100 Euros.
Note that at these prices things are not cancellable. I think maybe you get a small amount back from the hotel if you cancel but nothing for the train tickets. You can spend more for both the hotel and trains to have to ability to cancel. Physiologically I'm happier taking the risk. After the last year and a half having something "written in ink" just feels better to me. If it doesn't work life will go on but the least thing I'll be upset about is the money lost.
Again, just like with CONvid1984, your 'theories' and 'facts' don't hold water.
Many Asian countries have been colonized for centuries, and once they kicked out the Europeans they never looked back!
Why is Africa so different? Why doesn't Apple build factories in Africa? Why doesn't Nigeria sell it's oil the same way as Arab countries do and be filthy rich with safe and beautifully paved streets, artificial islands in the shape of a palm in front of it's coastline and a magnet for rich tourists from all over the world, instead of being a total shithole country? Can you figure it out? It could be because of Islam which makes the Arabs safe due to cutting off hands if they steal and beheading if they do drugs. That and the Arabs and the Asians are math geniuses and have a lot of engineers who went to engineering schools in the USA and then returned to their home country.
Again, just like with CONvid1984, your 'theories' and 'facts' don't hold water.
Many Asian countries have been colonized for centuries, and once they kicked out the Europeans they never looked back!
Why is Africa so different? Why doesn't Apple build factories in Africa? Why doesn't Nigeria sell it's oil the same way as Arab countries do and be filthy rich with safe and beautifully paved streets, artificial islands in the shape of a palm in front of it's coastline and a magnet for rich tourists from all over the world, instead of being a total shithole country? Can you figure it out?G7 will always dominate the world on surface or under the surface, but there maybe few nations that will join if they clean up their act namely China.
Dubai is nice place to visit, but if UAE has the future? Not in the way that you described. They even went almost bankrupt before and Abu Dhabi helped Dubai as no others wanted to invest. They do not have any industry beside oil and tourism.
Even G7 nations are struggling to grow as human development came so far comparison to before and we can only move bit by bit now.
But it does not matter, as long as there are FKK as we know now, we mongers will be happy campers, leave the complication to the rest LOL!
Yes but what about Australia, new Zealand?Australia was almost bought by China, now they are fighting back and New Zealand is very nice place with amazing nature, but it is not for us because there ain't any FKK LOL! And I hear Australian brothels as legal as it is mate sucks! LOL.
If you do a DNA test of all the so called white Americans who trace their lineage from the 1776 most of them have 1/16 or 1/8 Native of African ancestry DNA. The only true white Americans are the late European immigrants who came from 1900 such as Italians and Eastern European leaving poverty in Europe during that time.Racial warfare in USA is very deep rooted thing to the extent your ancestor hit my with stone stick 1 million years ago and took our mammoth meat from my cave LOL!
It could be because of Islam which makes the Arabs safe due to cutting off hands if they steal and beheading if they do drugs. That and the Arabs and the Asians are math geniuses and have a lot of engineers who went to engineering schools in the USA and then returned to their home country.Islam will be the main religion of Europe soon or later if the immigration in EU continue as it has been, so be ready to study Islam, so you can integrate into new Islamic Europe! Allah going to smash European ass from within, no need to fight war in middle east, they are already in Europe as European to dominate European region!
And for America, it will be part of Latin America with more people speaking Spanish than English LOL!
As for German FKK, it will be the Romanian territory as it already has been like a Romanian embassy with nude stunner diplomats for their diplomatic negotiation on Cuban missile crisis of us mongers LOL! They solve the problem just fine LOL!
After all the centuries of trying to invade Europe, Europe will be finally Islamic nation soon or later with in this century or next! So convert now for your own sake to prepare for the future.
Lucky Nuts
07-29-21, 02:49
So apparently there is a "boss" or syndicate behind all the FKK businesses that dictate the girls' pricing structure. Their new policy is 50 for 30 minutes and 100 for 60 minutes basic service with condom BJ and no kissing. Add 50 euro more if you want kissing and no condom BJ so 100/30 and 150/60 total. Most but not all girls are following the new orders so best to talk to as many girls as possible and make offers. I'the usually ask "what can we do for 100 euros?" and follow up their answer with "I'the like that if we can do closer to 60 minutes".
My last trip pre-covid I did almost all 100 E /60 minute sessions with BBBJ and kissing included. This trip I did mostly 50 E /30 minute basic service sessions which is certainly the best value now. But every day I would get at least one session with BBBJ / kissing by finding the right girl or by paying the extra 50. One girl at Finca asked me if the rumor is true that some girls at Sharks are doing 100/60 with kissing and BBBJ. So clearly they are all connected behind the scenes. I let her know that yes it's true.
This new policy is an artificial price increase because most girls are willing to do 100/60 with extras imo but someone is telling them it's not allowed. I certainly did my part in rejecting many girls that wouldn't budge from the new higher prices. But admittedly 4 girls I did pay the extra for sessions because they were the hottest and I didn't want to regret not having full service with them. These 4 I think in a free market without a fixed price structure could ask and receive higher prices anyhow. Strange market system where 90 percent of the choices are asking the same price. Those with lower demand should be free to offer lower prices and / or better services.
My observation is that the new pricing is not working in the girls' favor. The girls were often sitting around "bored" and available much more than on my previous trips. Also there was never a line at Sharks for the rooms upstairs like on my previous trips. I believe this new pricing scheme results in a revenue take home decrease for the girls. Working less rooms yes but I think they would prefer to stay busier and take home more money. Another thing is they never seemed pleased when I requested a basic 50/30 session. Pre-covid when I requested a 100/60 session that was usually welcomed with a smile.
My guess is they will give this a try for a while and see if it's revenue positive or negative. Some girls have already figured out which is better for their own bottom line. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Lucky Nuts
07-29-21, 02:51
Just arrived back home in the states after more than a week of FKK visits around Frankfurt. So here's some info to help those planning a trip. If you are not renting a car it's best to stay at one of the many basic but nice hotels next to the Hopbahnhauf (main train station) prices are around $60 to $70 per night. Next find the ticket center inside the HBF and buy a train pass rather than individual tickets for each trip. You can buy an all of Germany pass or a cheaper regional pass. For example if you're only going to Sharks and Oase you can buy a pass with Darmstadt and Friedrichsdorf as your outer limits for about 70 euros / week.
Last trip I used Uber a lot but this trip I always found "no cars available". So standard taxis had to be used for the last leg of some day trips.
For cell phone data and tethering to my laptop I bought a SMS card on ebay. It provided way more data than I needed and was less than $25. I posted an ebay link on this forum a couple weeks ago.
Regarding ATMs I found Frankfurt challenging to get a fair rate. The ATMs at the hopbahnhauf add a 7% surcharge. It's not a fee that will be paid by Schwab or your brokerage company. It's built into the exchange rate unfortunately. I walked all over downtown and couldn't find an ATM that gave the actual XE rate like in most countries. Best I found was an ATM inside a small quick market type store near my hotel. But it had a 200 euro max limit per pull. Still it became my go to cash source. Any ideas on ATMs with better rates on larger pulls of cash?
Regarding covid your little white CDC vaccine card is your entry key into the FKKs and even to eat inside the McDonalds across from Damstadt's train station. Good idea to have a photocopy of your passport and carry it together with your vaccine card. To return to the USA You can take your antigen test at the Darmstadt train station (HBF). The test center is located behind the pharmacy / APOTHEKE. Very nice lady there speaks good english. Test is free and you receive the copy of your results needed for the flight home within 15 minutes. You can also use this negative test result to enter Sharks.
So should a guy still fly across the pond for a hobby trip? Hell yeah! I had a great trip with lots of good fucking and sucking. On two different days I hung out with other Americans that came over on even shorter trips than mine for exactly the same reason. Just visiting the FKKs. Everyone had a blast. Nice weather, good food and hot pussies. Do it if you can!
One last advice is to travel before the weather turns colder in Germany. Several local guys I talked with told me they expect the FKKs will get shut back down when the covid infection rate likely goes up sometime this fall / winter. So enjoy it while we can!
I'll write up some individual club reports when I have time.
So apparently there is a "boss" or syndicate behind all the FKK businesses that dictate the girls' pricing structure. Their new policy is 50 for 30 minutes and 100 for 60 minutes basic service with condom BJ and no kissing. Add 50 euro more if you want kissing and no condom BJ so 100/30 and 150/60 total. Most but not all girls are following the new orders so best to talk to as many girls as possible and make offers. I'the usually ask "what can we do for 100 euros?" and follow up their answer with "I'the like that if we can do closer to 60 minutes".
My last trip pre-covid I did almost all 100 E /60 minute sessions with BBBJ and kissing included. This trip I did mostly 50 E /30 minute basic service sessions which is certainly the best value now. But every day I would get at least one session with BBBJ / kissing by finding the right girl or by paying the extra 50. One girl at Finca asked me if the rumor is true that some girls at Sharks are doing 100/60 with kissing and BBBJ. So clearly they are all connected behind the scenes. I let her know that yes it's true.Well, 150 euro, one hour, BBBJ, DFK included with other GFE service and two cum if I can in one hour is my usual price in FKK after 2017 summer new law. That is within acceptable, but more than that, it is no! For me.
There were however clubs line LR and GT where you get BBBJ and DFK with 50 euro 30 min session, but that is precovid, and now that GT is bought by ocean apparently and etc. We will see how those NRW clubs will be.
If it is 150 euro as above description, for me, that is fine by me, it is more which is pissing me off.
So whatever syndicate that is, and I am sure they are reading this, do 150 euro as I described above for one hour session and suck my dick good LOL!
Salivating at the idea of reports coming, Germany cases have doubled and darmstadt keep getting a lower incidence rate, 50 new cases in all of darmstadt in last 7 days (no deaths), I think FKK survives at least the fall.
Just arrived back home in the states after more than a week of FKK visits around Frankfurt. So here's some info to help those planning a trip. If you are not renting a car it's best to stay at one of the many basic but nice hotels next to the Hopbahnhauf (main train station) prices are around $60 to $70 per night. Next find the ticket center inside the HBF and buy a train pass rather than individual tickets for each trip. You can buy an all of Germany pass or a cheaper regional pass. For example if you're only going to Sharks and Oase you can buy a pass with Darmstadt and Friedrichsdorf as your outer limits for about 70 euros / week.
Last trip I used Uber a lot but this trip I always found "no cars available". So standard taxis had to be used for the last leg of some day trips.
For cell phone data and tethering to my laptop I bought a SMS card on ebay. It provided way more data than I needed and was less than $25. I posted an ebay link on this forum a couple weeks ago.
Regarding ATMs I found Frankfurt challenging to get a fair rate. The ATMs at the hopbahnhauf add a 7% surcharge. It's not a fee that will be paid by Schwab or your brokerage company. It's built into the exchange rate unfortunately. I walked all over downtown and couldn't find an ATM that gave the actual XE rate like in most countries. Best I found was an ATM inside a small quick market type store near my hotel. But it had a 200 euro max limit per pull. Still it became my go to cash source. Any ideas on ATMs with better rates on larger pulls of cash?
Regarding covid your little white CDC vaccine card is your entry key into the FKKs and even to eat inside the McDonalds across from Damstadt's train station. Good idea to have a photocopy of your passport and carry it together with your vaccine card. To return to the USA You can take your antigen test at the Darmstadt train station (HBF). The test center is located behind the pharmacy / APOTHEKE. Very nice lady there speaks good english. Test is free and you receive the copy of your results needed for the flight home within 15 minutes. You can also use this negative test result to enter Sharks.
So should a guy still fly across the pond for a hobby trip? Hell yeah! I had a great trip with lots of good fucking and sucking. On two different days I hung out with other Americans that came over on even shorter trips than mine for exactly the same reason. Just visiting the FKKs. Everyone had a blast. Nice weather, good food and hot pussies. Do it if you can!
One last advice is to travel before the weather turns colder in Germany. Several local guys I talked with told me they expect the FKKs will get shut back down when the covid infection rate likely goes up sometime this fall / winter. So enjoy it while we can!
I'll write up some individual club reports when I have time.
So apparently there is a "boss" or syndicate behind all the FKK businesses that dictate the girls' pricing structure. Their new policy is 50 for 30 minutes and 100 for 60 minutes basic service with condom BJ and no kissing. Add 50 euro more if you want kissing and no condom BJ so 100/30 and 150/60 total. Most but not all girls are following the new orders so best to talk to as many girls as possible and make offers. I'the usually ask "what can we do for 100 euros?" and follow up their answer with "I'the like that if we can do closer to 60 minutes".
My last trip pre-covid I did almost all 100 E /60 minute sessions with BBBJ and kissing included. This trip I did mostly 50 E /30 minute basic service sessions which is certainly the best value now. But every day I would get at least one session with BBBJ / kissing by finding the right girl or by paying the extra 50. One girl at Finca asked me if the rumor is true that some girls at Sharks are doing 100/60 with kissing and BBBJ. So clearly they are all connected behind the scenes. I let her know that yes it's true.
This new policy is an artificial price increase because most girls are willing to do 100/60 with extras imo but someone is telling them it's not allowed. I certainly did my part in rejecting many girls that wouldn't budge from the new higher prices. But admittedly 4 girls I did pay the extra for sessions because they were the hottest and I didn't want to regret not having full service with them. These 4 I think in a free market without a fixed price structure could ask and receive higher prices anyhow. Strange market system where 90 percent of the choices are asking the same price. Those with lower demand should be free to offer lower prices and / or better services.Not all girls ask 100/30 and 150/60 at Sharks for kissing and BBBJ, when some like sexy Melissa red hair already asked before covid. Some girls worked for this rate in apartment under covid. Business seem quite slow for most girls at Sharks and I doubt Oase being crowded.
So did you get the train to Darmstadt Nord? Or the other Hauptbahnhof which is further away? According to google the Darmstadt Nord is only 16 minutes by walking so presumably will not need an uber or taxi. I checked the uber price rates it said only 5.34 euros from the Darmstadt Nord to Sharks.
Just arrived back home in the states after more than a week of FKK visits around Frankfurt. So here's some info to help those planning a trip. If you are not renting a car it's best to stay at one of the many basic but nice hotels next to the Hopbahnhauf (main train station) prices are around $60 to $70 per night. Next find the ticket center inside the HBF and buy a train pass rather than individual tickets for each trip. You can buy an all of Germany pass or a cheaper regional pass. For example if you're only going to Sharks and Oase you can buy a pass with Darmstadt and Friedrichsdorf as your outer limits for about 70 euros / week.
Last trip I used Uber a lot but this trip I always found "no cars available". So standard taxis had to be used for the last leg of some day trips.
For cell phone data and tethering to my laptop I bought a SMS card on ebay. It provided way more data than I needed and was less than $25. I posted an ebay link on this forum a couple weeks ago.
Regarding ATMs I found Frankfurt challenging to get a fair rate. The ATMs at the hopbahnhauf add a 7% surcharge. It's not a fee that will be paid by Schwab or your brokerage company. It's built into the exchange rate unfortunately. I walked all over downtown and couldn't find an ATM that gave the actual XE rate like in most countries. Best I found was an ATM inside a small quick market type store near my hotel. But it had a 200 euro max limit per pull. Still it became my go to cash source. Any ideas on ATMs with better rates on larger pulls of cash?.
Last trip I used Uber a lot but this trip I always found "no cars available". So standard taxis had to be used for the last leg of some day trips.Uber does not operate in Germany any more. Your alternatives are Free Now or Bolt. Ola may be available too.
Uber does not operate in Germany any more. Your alternatives are Free Now or Bolt. Ola may be available too.I thought Bolt (Estonian) was just electric scooter rentals? But that would be funny to tour Germany in. The German electric scooters companies are expanding fast as well. Like Tier and Wind are both German I believe.
I think they ought not to take an August holiday since they had the prior year as a holiday and they need to be at the clubs.That would be the logical thing to do. But these girls aren't know for their brains.
Good tips, thanks for sharing, I just came back myself!
Regarding ATMs I found Frankfurt challenging to get a fair rate. The ATMs at the hopbahnhauf add a 7% surcharge. It's not a fee that will be paid by Schwab or your brokerage company. It's built into the exchange rate unfortunately. I walked all over downtown and couldn't find an ATM that gave the actual XE rate like in most countries. Best I found was an ATM inside a small quick market type store near my hotel. But it had a 200 euro max limit per pull. Still it became my go to cash source. Any ideas on ATMs with better rates on larger pulls of cash?
Regarding covid your little white CDC vaccine card is your entry key into the FKKs and even to eat inside the McDonalds across from Damstadt's train station. Good idea to have a photocopy of your passport and carry it together with your vaccine card. To return to the USA You can take your antigen test at the Darmstadt train station (HBF). The test center is located behind the pharmacy / APOTHEKE. Very nice lady there speaks good english. Test is free and you receive the copy of your results needed for the flight home within 15 minutes. You can also use this negative test result to enter Sharks.For cash near the Hauptbanhof, you're right, they gouge in the station. If you walk a block though, I think the Sparkasse at Dusseldorfer Str. did me ok. I paid $118.25 for 100 E, which seems like the going rate, no additional fees.
Sparkasse is a real bank and that's what you want. Watch out for the Euronet ATMs, which are often in the most convenient places, but charge an awful rate: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/euronetworldwide.com.
Had no idea about the free antigen test in Darmstadt. I wound up paying for a rapid test at the airport (not in Germany) that cost me $35!
Uber does not operate in Germany any more. Your alternatives are Free Now or Bolt. Ola may be available too.I met three very nice taxi drivers who I rate them as among the best I met in Europe, one is African guy, very fun and nice guy, but usually African people are very nice, full of smile and friendly. Another one is Greek guy, who was very nice and funny funny guy and another one was very polite Syrian man who was thinking to go to Iraq joining cousin fighting in the civil war, sounded like a ISIS member, but he was very nice polite guy.
I also met a Pakistan taxi driver who gave me a whole ride lecture on how I should not go and visit prostitute from palace to my hotel LOL! He was good guy, very serious religious man, and I had good debate about my preference on fucking young beautiful girls to his love for his wife.
Oh and I must not forget the Indian taxi drive who helped me to buy weed off some drug addict on the street through the taxi window LOL! Whatta experience that was LOL!
Thats bad news for FKK overall.
https://www.etiasvisa.com/etias-news/romania-schengen
Thats bad news for FKK overall.
https://www.etiasvisa.com/etias-news/romania-schengenNo this won't change anything for the FKKs, travel is already easy between Romania and Schengen countries, you would know if you ever travelled to Romania or have travelled anywhere in Schengen areas with a Romanian ID holder (most FKK girls don't even have a passport, they just carry their ID). No need to be worried for this.
It will be bad news for FKKs if Romanian currency changes to Euro. Then over few years most Romanians will be earning much higher than what they earn now there, and some girls may not come to FKKs here.
Thats bad news for FKK overall.
https://www.etiasvisa.com/etias-news/romania-schengenHow is that bad news for FKK? Is that because you don't like Ro girls? For the industry overall it is great news that Ro girls will have even fewer obstacles for travelling / settling down in the Schengen area countries.
What in the article? Romania is already in the EU so the girls can travel freely already. What will change the FKK world is if Romania ever becomes richer than it is today.
Thats bad news for FKK overall.
https://www.etiasvisa.com/etias-news/romania-schengen
Bertie Wooster
07-29-21, 21:05
Completely vague. No exact details. Hard to know where your prices refers to. Sharks? Palace? But yet you will meet a complete stranger in Sharks on Tuesday and reveal everything. But not on ISG where you constantly post. Maybe you need to wait for reports from last weekend to be published on LS?
Lets do specifics and stay away from girls with which you have difficulties. Did anything unusual happen in Sharks on Saturday evening? Where now are the wooden huts that were at the back of the garden pre-Covid? What foods were served on Saturday evening?Did Mr. Nuts give an answer to your simple question? I was in Sharks on July 24th and I believe I know the answer. I would message you but don't seem to have that capability.
Uber does not operate in Germany any more. Your alternatives are Free Now or Bolt. Ola may be available too.I just downloaded Bolt it allows payment by cash without needing a credit card.
It said it has taxis in Frankfurt and electric scooters in Dusseldorf.
Girls are already traveling easily to Germany, it's about the currency, if they switch to Euro everything is going to change.
How is that bad news for FKK? Is that because you don't like Ro girls? For the industry overall it is great news that Ro girls will have even fewer obstacles for travelling / settling down in the Schengen area countries.
Girls are already traveling easily to Germany, it's about the currency, if they switch to Euro everything is going to change.If Romania joins the Schengen zone then the Romanian girls might as well open up their own clubs directly in Romania since people can get visa free entry to Romania. Then they can go back to cheaper rates since the girls won't have to travel to Germany and pay for a place to live.
How is that bad news for FKK? Is that because you don't like Ro girls? For the industry overall it is great news that Ro girls will have even fewer obstacles for travelling / settling down in the Schengen area countries.Translate the article bitte LOL!
At the end of the article it literally says Romania's currency will eventually be the Euro.
No this won't change anything for the FKKs, travel is already easy between Romania and Schengen countries, you would know if you ever travelled to Romania or have travelled anywhere in Schengen areas with a Romanian ID holder (most FKK girls don't even have a passport, they just carry their ID). No need to be worried for this.
It will be bad news for FKKs if Romanian currency changes to Euro. Then over few years most Romanians will be earning much higher than what they earn now there, and some girls may not come to FKKs here.
If Romania joins the Schengen zone then the Romanian girls might as well open up their own clubs directly in Romania since people can get visa free entry to Romania. Then they can go back to cheaper rates since the girls won't have to travel to Germany and pay for a place to live.Romania is very corrupt nation, it is beautiful nation as I have been there, but them doing business in Romania will be disaster for them because they will be even more exploited than they already are in Germany or Switzerland. Only thing that will protect them in Romania is money and political connections which they do not have enough. It will be safer for them in Germany and Switzerland and they may have chance to immigrate like some of them did or even marry some monger who lost his head to his penis LOL!
But more Romanian prostitutes is welcome thing for mongers LOL!
At the end of the article it literally says Romania's currency will eventually be the Euro.It would make no difference. A country does not become richer automatically because it is admitted into the Eurozone. Greece has been a part of Eurozone and has consistently gotten poorer, per capita has been cut by a huge percent in 10 to 15 years. Romania has been growing; and if it gets admitted to Eurozone, it is because it improves even further and Eurozone believes Romania is worth admitting in and will be reliable and will not be a basket case. The way you guys are talking, it is as if Eurozone admits Rom and that action lifts Rom out of poverty. In reality, you have it backwards. If it gets admitted, a big if, it is due to Rom no longer being poor.
You don't become smart by getting a job at Google or by getting admitted to MIT. It is because you are already smart, you get admitted to MIT and get a job at Google.
At the end of the article it literally says Romania's currency will eventually be the Euro.Most of these emerging or less developing nations are using US dollars anyways and in par Euro already LOL!
It is better to stick to so called G3 currency and Euro and CHF on top of that only, rest are bit shaky currencies.
PaulInZurich
07-30-21, 07:54
If Romania joins the Schengen zone then the Romanian girls might as well open up their own clubs directly in Romania since people can get visa free entry to Romania. Then they can go back to cheaper rates since the girls won't have to travel to Germany and pay for a place to live.Being in the Schengen zone or not has absolutely nothing to do with brothels being legal in the country or not.
BigBuddy69
07-30-21, 17:22
If Romania joins the Schengen zone then the Romanian girls might as well open up their own clubs directly in Romania since people can get visa free entry to Romania. Then they can go back to cheaper rates since the girls won't have to travel to Germany and pay for a place to live.Little problem: fuck clubs may still not be legal in Romania.
As for the rates don't be so sure: with all the spineless addicts craving to touch a pair of tits, they may go very high in the next months.
It would make no difference. A country does not become richer automatically because it is admitted into the Eurozone. Greece has been a part of Eurozone and has consistently gotten poorer, per capita has been cut by a huge percent in 10 to 15 years. Romania has been growing; and if it gets admitted to Eurozone, it is because it improves even further and Eurozone believes Romania is worth admitting in and will be reliable and will not be a basket case. The way you guys are talking, it is as if Eurozone admits Rom and that action lifts Rom out of poverty. In reality, you have it backwards. If it gets admitted, a big if, it is due to Rom no longer being poor.
You don't become smart by getting a job at Google or by getting admitted to MIT. It is because you are already smart, you get admitted to MIT and get a job at Google.That sir, was not pessimism but pure realism!
Hi Bob I spent Sunday again all day in Sharks and again the girls / guys ratio was not bad. I had a 100 E /60 minute session with a well known hot girl that included kissing and BBBJ and ball sucking. I will be there again Tuesday as well. PM me if you like to meet. If we meet I will let you know which girl it was.
I learned from one girl today that my favorite girl will be back starting Monday. I'm looking forward to see her on Tuesday. As always I will post a report with her name included.
Regarding pricing it's all over the map right now. Each girl has her own unique pricing so you have to ask. On Friday night at Palace one girl gave me a 30 minute /50 euro session that included BBBJ and kissing. But yes almost all the hot girls are asking more than that.
I will post my reports with girl names and details soon. Hope to meet you on Tuesday. I will be at Sharks all day and night Tuesday.
Completely vague. No exact details. Hard to know where your prices refers to. Sharks? Palace? But yet you will meet a complete stranger in Sharks on Tuesday and reveal everything. But not on ISG where you constantly post. Maybe you need to wait for reports from last weekend to be published on LS?
Lets do specifics and stay away from girls with which you have difficulties. Did anything unusual happen in Sharks on Saturday evening? Where now are the wooden huts that were at the back of the garden pre-Covid? What foods were served on Saturday evening?
Did Mr. Nuts give an answer to your simple question? I was in Sharks on July 24th and I believe I know the answer. I would message you but don't seem to have that capability.Hi Hessen Bob,
I would like to know the answer too! Did Lucky Nuts answer your question?
Little problem: fuck clubs may still not be legal in Romania.
As for the rates don't be so sure: with all the spineless addicts craving to touch a pair of tits, they may go very high in the next months.It is OK we have Romanian fuck clubs in Germany LOL! To make it legal, they say they are Spanish or Italian girls with fluent Romanian language skill LOL!
Romania will be little more culturally interesting than Germany though.
It would make no difference. A country does not become richer automatically because it is admitted into the Eurozone. Greece has been a part of Eurozone and has consistently gotten poorer, per capita has been cut by a huge percent in 10 to 15 years. Romania has been growing; and if it gets admitted to Eurozone, it is because it improves even further and Eurozone believes Romania is worth admitting in and will be reliable and will not be a basket case. The way you guys are talking, it is as if Eurozone admits Rom and that action lifts Rom out of poverty. In reality, you have it backwards. If it gets admitted, a big if, it is due to Rom no longer being poor.
You don't become smart by getting a job at Google or by getting admitted to MIT. It is because you are already smart, you get admitted to MIT and get a job at Google.I know some real dumb fuck at major companies by the way, but I get your point and in contrary, I met some taxi driver that is more smarter than some of the guys I know in major companies LOL!
Luck has a lot to do with certain things in life and bit of brain.
Hessen Bob
07-31-21, 03:19
Hi Hessen Bob,
I would like to know the answer too! Did Lucky Nuts answer your question?Lots of information that can be pulled from local forums such as LS or even can come via Google. But no answer yet to that specific Sharks question. I'm sure the answer will eventually come.
Being in the Schengen zone or not has absolutely nothing to do with brothels being legal in the country or not.But it is another sunny day for Paul as he got the Globe in Zurich, so you got nothing to worry about LOL! Swiss will be the last one to illegalize brothel of any kind as it is all about benjamin in Switzerland, the capitalism at its best LOL!
But being in the Schengen secure the supply for the demand of us mongers, so any eastern European nations where girls are beautiful joining Schengen region is a good news for us mongers LOL!
And now! Lebanon need help! We need to figure out how to get those exotic beauty Lebanese girls to get to Germany or Switzerland to receive our help in main bar of FKK clubs LOL!
Down side of life is where we mongers feed at, sad but the truth! We are kind of like United Nations with penis LOL!
Girls meet pimp, loverboys or some kind of platform that allure her to work in a special bar called FKK where special service to please men are provided for 50 euro per 30 min among other option like you can fuck her in the ass or cum in the mouth or make her clean your anal with her tongue among other interesting activity for men.
Girls come to FKK. We mongers go to FKK by foot, car, bus, train, bicycle, bike, airplane, helicopter or whatever.
We fuck them for above very reasonable rate I would say to gain the memory as a man that last life time!
This is what I call fucking good deal! It is amazing deal for us and we can do many stunners in one day if we can find them like we used to be easily find them! And we still find one or two per day, everyday during our FKK trip.
Amazing deal and amazing thing we can do to our life as a man for such an amazing reasonable cost!
PaulInZurich
07-31-21, 07:51
Most of these emerging or less developing nations are using US dollars anyways and in par Euro already LOL!
It is better to stick to so called G3 currency and Euro and CHF on top of that only, rest are bit shaky currencies.In Romania nobody really cares about USD, but a lot of prices are already linked to EUR anyway. For example apartment or car prices are quoted in EUR and if the payment is not done in EUR, then it's done in RON at the exchange rate of the day.
As far as I know that is not the case with salaries, would be too much to recalculate every month. The result is that because of long term exchange rate EUR-RON, their purchasing power goes down in time.
In Romania nobody really cares about USD, but a lot of prices are already linked to EUR anyway. For example apartment or car prices are quoted in EUR and if the payment is not done in EUR, then it's done in RON at the exchange rate of the day.
As far as I know that is not the case with salaries, would be too much to recalculate every month. The result is that because of long term exchange rate EUR-RON, their purchasing power goes down in time.Whether they care or not, the impact would be the same. In FX markets, USD and EUR are the most important currencies; the IRP concepts that drive FX rates would apply equally to cross exchange rates. In the last 10 years, Leu lost v both USD and EUR but more so v USD. That is because EUR lost v USD. So, a Romanian sitting in her country could feel happy that she lost only a small amount v EUR but she lost a lot more v USD.
I am not an expert on Leu (pretty much don't care about that country's economy in any way other than I attend FKKs a few times a year); but per Wiki, this date when Romania is supposed to be admitted to Eurozone is continually pushed out, which makes sense; that is generally the case with many emerging countries unable to maintain their fiscal discipline.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania_and_the_euro
The EURRON chart is not normal; very steady decline; clearly it shows the chart of a country trying to manage their finances to appease their future partners and get admitted to Euro. It is not flat but steadily losing value because despite their best efforts, their inflation is worse than that in Eurozone; but at the same time they are behaving in a reasonably disciplined manner, so they are able to keep it at a steady decline. The USDRON chart is wildly fluctuating as most FX charts would be. In effect, the USDRON chart is similar to USDEUR chart, except for the aforementioned USD appreciation v Euro.
In Romania nobody really cares about USD, but a lot of prices are already linked to EUR anyway. For example apartment or car prices are quoted in EUR and if the payment is not done in EUR, then it's done in RON at the exchange rate of the day.
As far as I know that is not the case with salaries, would be too much to recalculate every month. The result is that because of long term exchange rate EUR-RON, their purchasing power goes down in time.I went there for holiday in year 2000 and I could not monger as I went with friends and too many eyes, but I never thought years later I would be fucking so many Romanian girls LOL! These girls must have been only 10 years old or something like that when I went to Romania in year 2000. I even ski there and I must say I made full out of that nation LOL! And my journey into Romania continue in FKK, but in their pussy, mouth and ass LOL!
When I hear Romania, it put a smile on my face and Germany, and Hungary and so many nations LOL! The sick mind, but truth of next level mongers LOL!
Whether they care or not, the impact would be the same. In FX markets, USD and EUR are the most important currencies; the IRP concepts that drive FX rates would apply equally to cross exchange rates. In the last 10 years, Leu lost v both USD and EUR but more so v USD. That is because EUR lost v USD. So, a Romanian sitting in her country could feel happy that she lost only a small amount v EUR but she lost a lot more v USD.
I am not an expert on Leu (pretty much don't care about that country's economy in any way other than I attend FKKs a few times a year); but per Wiki, this date when Romania is supposed to be admitted to Eurozone is continually pushed out, which makes sense; that is generally the case with many emerging countries unable to maintain their fiscal discipline.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania_and_the_euro
The EURRON chart is not normal; very steady decline; clearly it shows the chart of a country trying to manage their finances to appease their future partners and get admitted to Euro. It is not flat but steadily losing value because despite their best efforts, their inflation is worse than that in Eurozone; but at the same time they are behaving in a reasonably disciplined manner, so they are able to keep it at a steady decline. The USDRON chart is wildly fluctuating as most FX charts would be. In effect, the USDRON chart is similar to USDEUR chart, except for the aforementioned USD appreciation v Euro.In FX world it may be, but I wonder in FKK world if girls will accept US dollars? LOL!
Being in the Schengen zone or not has absolutely nothing to do with brothels being legal in the country or not.But it has a lot to do with brothels in legal regions within Schengen to get supply from other Schengen nations LOL!
LHeisenberg
08-02-21, 20:40
Hi there,
Driving from Milan to Denmark, and I'm making a stop in Germany.
Which FKK club is the best right now?
Sharks and Artemis are the most popular I guess.
Can anyone compare them or any other suggestions?
Thanks.
Steve 9696
08-03-21, 00:12
Hi there,
Driving from Milan to Denmark, and I'm making a stop in Germany.
Which FKK club is the best right now?
Sharks and Artemis are the most popular I guess.
Can anyone compare them or any other suggestions?
Thanks.If you only did one club on that route I would recommend Sharks. Most folks I think would agree don't go out of your way to Artemis. Nice facilities. Ok girls. Lots of upsell. Wouldn't exist in Frankfurt — only game in town in Berlin.
If you want to detour go to Globe in Zurich. Expensive but very good. And maybe hit Oase when in Frankfurt.
If you only did one club on that route I would recommend Sharks. Most folks I think would agree don't go out of your way to Artemis. Nice facilities. Ok girls. Lots of upsell. Wouldn't exist in Frankfurt only game in town in Berlin.
If you want to detour go to Globe in Zurich. Expensive but very good. And maybe hit Oase when in Frankfurt.There was a plan in Potsdam to build amazing mega FKK in mid 2010's and the construction actually began, but somehow the construction stopped and the plan vanished. It would have been good competition that would have level up Artemis and the new mega FKK in positive way, but Artemis as you say is the only FKK provider in Berlin.
However, between plastic monsters of Artemis, you do find amazing stunners, usually two or three, most of time only one LOL! In summer 2019 before the lock down in 2020, the line up was back, but I wonder how it will be now after the pandemic is over.
By looking at past few years like half decade, there is trend that if you fuck girls to just fuck and try to play them, they come back at you with he forced me allegations, some were true, but some of those events were bit question mark, but fueled with media and mass public, the man goes down even to the extent of going to jail.
Especially one has money or fame, but also in general, beside marriage and proper relationship, it is wise to outsource your lust as a man to external platform that secure your security like FKK, or good escort if any around you, this way, you cut down your cost, time, effort and most importantly your risk of getting honey trapped and fucked for life. Above all, all this can be done in private behind the closed door.
By providing proper good looking stunner, FKK and some good escort service really benefited and save many men's lives who see the above fact I mentioned.
Sadly, some guys go the so called normal ways and some of them end up paying the grave price for the girls they just wanted fuck. These guys not only wasted money and time, but they end up paying with their lives.
For us mongers, we pay 50 euro per 30 min LOL! For anal entry, it is 100 Euro LOL! And for explosion in her mouth it is 50 euro and 25 euro in nrw FKK LOL!
We mongers are 50 euro kind of guys LOL!
Five O! 50 ! Is the way to go! There is good reason why 50 cent called him self 50 cent, but there is good reason why I call myself 50 euro LOL!
Hi there,
Driving from Milan to Denmark, and I'm making a stop in Germany.
Which FKK club is the best right now?
Sharks and Artemis are the most popular I guess.
Can anyone compare them or any other suggestions?
Thanks.I would drive to Aosta then up to Gran San Bernardino, seeing Scott ski factory and avoiding tunnels pass like Gottard. Don t take gas in Switzerland, very expensive. Then pit stop at Cleo close to Bern, happy hour before 1 pm, 99 CHF for entry, foods, soft drinks and 30 mn in bed, or expensive Globe, 240 CHF for entry and 30 mn in bed, around Zurich, then Sharks south Frankfurt or Oase, then Samya in Koln, then Atmos in Hamburg just before Denmark. Have good trip. Gas is cheaper in Germany, out of autobahns.
DiverOyster
08-03-21, 06:03
If you only did one club on that route I would recommend Sharks. Most folks I think would agree don't go out of your way to Artemis. Nice facilities. Ok girls. Lots of upsell. Wouldn't exist in Frankfurt only game in town in Berlin.
If you want to detour go to Globe in Zurich. Expensive but very good. And maybe hit Oase when in Frankfurt.Agreed. Sharks and Globe are top options. Globe is a great fun on Tuesday, public sex day. No other fkks have public sex display and nightly lesbian shows.
Agreed. Sharks and Globe are top options. Globe is a great fun on Tuesday, public sex day. No other fkks have public sex display and nightly lesbian shows.Beds in Sharks garden, with bed sheet and paper, for sex. More comfortable than on Globe roof.
LHeisenberg
08-03-21, 06:19
Agreed. Sharks and Globe are top options. Globe is a great fun on Tuesday, public sex day. No other fkks have public sex display and nightly lesbian shows.Sharks it is.
Thank you both.
Agreed. Sharks and Globe are top options. Globe is a great fun on Tuesday, public sex day. No other fkks have public sex display and nightly lesbian shows.Globe has lesbian show at night on daily basis? I always left club at 7 pm as it is day club and shifts are all there by 4 pm, so I begin at 11 am.
LionMan966
08-03-21, 15:48
What is the 7-day incidence rate for closing clubs in Dusseldorf (for Aca Gold), Cologne (Samya) and Frankfurt (Sharks)?
Is it closure after 7 consecutive days over the limit or would a club close as soon as they reach the threshold?
If you only did one club on that route I would recommend Sharks. Most folks I think would agree don't go out of your way to Artemis. Nice facilities. Ok girls. Lots of upsell. Wouldn't exist in Frankfurt only game in town in Berlin.
If you want to detour go to Globe in Zurich. Expensive but very good. And maybe hit Oase when in Frankfurt.Yah, Sharks and Globe are likely the best bets along that route. Don't waste your time at Oase at the moment. ItMs upsell city without even the optics to back it up.
Maybe if OP is adventurous, he can test out the Hamburg clubs and report some intel.
Agreed. Sharks and Globe are top options. Globe is a great fun on Tuesday, public sex day. No other fkks have public sex display and nightly lesbian shows.Do FKKs ban public sex? Many years ago there was a German customer at Oase who only had public sex in areas such as by the pool, near the bar and lounge. Also back then many gents had sex in the kino and outdoor open tents.
Steve 9696
08-03-21, 18:13
Do FKKs ban public sex? Many years ago there was a German customer at Oase who only had public sex in areas such as by the pool, near the bar and lounge. Also back then many gents had sex in the kino and outdoor open tents.I think this went out when BBBJ was made illegal in Germany. So can't do BBBJ in public and who really wants CBJ — surely not any sane male. So Globe still has it in Switzerland where BBBJ is legal but not in Germany for this reason. That is my theory anyhow.
I think this went out when BBBJ was made illegal in Germany. So can't do BBBJ in public and who really wants CBJ surely not any sane male. So Globe still has it in Switzerland where BBBJ is legal but not in Germany for this reason. That is my theory anyhow.I have seen a few uncovered blow jobs here and there in public since the rule change but of course nothing like what it used to be back in the day when fucking in public was seen fairly regularly in the kino or gardens. Public fucking is not my thing and I never asked nor accepted it; however, my guess is that along with the rule change, the change in the guest mix and girls have contributed. Now, we have a lot more Asians and others who tend to be a bit shy or not into public sex anyhow (some guys even wearing underwear, a towel, and then a robe); also, girls no longer offer even blow jobs in kinos and the younger generation Romies tend to look at every single thing as a money making oppty; anything more than a bored covered blow job + perfunctory fuck deserves extra money in their minds.
Back in the day, a quick blow job in the kino was a way for the girl to get the client interested and close the sale. Now, the supply demand curves have shifted in their favor and they don't need to give out quick samples to lure clients. Far from it.
If the guy doesn't ask for it and the girl doesn't offer it, public sex is going the way of dodo. I won't lie, it makes for good viewing if the guy next to you is blown. Oh well.
Do FKKs ban public sex? Many years ago there was a German customer at Oase who only had public sex in areas such as by the pool, near the bar and lounge. Also back then many gents had sex in the kino and outdoor open tents.Beds are prepared in Sharks garden, but didn't see exhibition.
I think this went out when BBBJ was made illegal in Germany. So can't do BBBJ in public and who really wants CBJ surely not any sane male. So Globe still has it in Switzerland where BBBJ is legal but not in Germany for this reason. That is my theory anyhow.You are partially correct. Yes, Globe Switzerland is the best place now for public sex; they even have a public sex context every Tuesdays at 3:00 pm for you to win 5 free entry and 5 free 30 minutes session, totaling about 1200 Swiss Franc to win every Tuesday! God I so hope that I can visit Globe in next few weeks!
You can still have full on public sex with BBBJ in Oase, Finca, LR (if and when it reopens) and most other clubs in Germany, long after that stupid 2017 law came in effect. I was in Oase probably 5-6 times in Jan-Feb 2020, and only times I had sex in a room was with AO girls. Sharks girls are kinda shy for this, I don't really get it, but still you can do some public sex upstairs couch area or outdoor, even though some girls told me management pays them 50 e if they do public show sex (probably in that case management won't allow BBBJ for legal liability reasons).
In any case, go ahead and indulge in public sex with BBBJ in Germany, you just need to find a right girl who's DTF in public and hit it off with her. A shot of tequila or vodka might help her to open up haha. And also be careful to watch just in case any razzia happens LOL.
You are partially correct. Yes, Globe Switzerland is the best place now for public sex; they even have a public sex context every Tuesdays at 3:00 pm for you to win 5 free entry and 5 free 30 minutes session, totaling about 1200 Swiss Franc to win every Tuesday! God I so hope that I can visit Globe in next few weeks!
You can still have full on public sex with BBBJ in Oase, Finca, LR (if and when it reopens) and most other clubs in Germany, long after that stupid 2017 law came in effect. I was in Oase probably 5-6 times in Jan-Feb 2020, and only times I had sex in a room was with AO girls. Sharks girls are kinda shy for this, I don't really get it, but still you can do some public sex upstairs couch area or outdoor, even though some girls told me management pays them 50 e if they do public show sex (probably in that case management won't allow BBBJ for legal liability reasons).
In any case, go ahead and indulge in public sex with BBBJ in Germany, you just need to find a right girl who's DTF in public and hit it off with her. A shot of tequila or vodka might help her to open up haha. And also be careful to watch just in case any razzia happens LOL.There are AO option in Oase? This I did not know.
I have seen a few uncovered blow jobs here and there in public since the rule change but of course nothing like what it used to be back in the day when fucking in public was seen fairly regularly in the kino or gardens. Public fucking is not my thing and I never asked nor accepted it; however, my guess is that along with the rule change, the change in the guest mix and girls have contributed. Now, we have a lot more Asians and others who tend to be a bit shy or not into public sex anyhow (some guys even wearing underwear, a towel, and then a robe); also, girls no longer offer even blow jobs in kinos and the younger generation Romies tend to look at every single thing as a money making oppty; anything more than a bored covered blow job + perfunctory fuck deserves extra money in their minds.
Back in the day, a quick blow job in the kino was a way for the girl to get the client interested and close the sale. Now, the supply demand curves have shifted in their favor and they don't need to give out quick samples to lure clients. Far from it.
If the guy doesn't ask for it and the girl doesn't offer it, public sex is going the way of dodo. I won't lie, it makes for good viewing if the guy next to you is blown. Oh well.I mostly seen public sex in cinema, I saw some BBBJ in main bar, not full sex in any FKK actually, just in cinemas I always see.
I am not into voyeur though or being voyeur, but if Globe contest is not rigged, I am bit interested LOL! But I think it is rigged.
There are AO option in Oase? This I did not know.Short answer: Not as an option like a rate card or in RTCs or Bernds.
Long answer: All of these girls fuck someone AO every week, you just need to be that guy to her even at an FKK. But don't go ask her for AO in first intro, better yet don't even ask, just let a situation happen, but that said most would AO with you if she likes you in the intro session and realizes you are clean. Sometimes though I do tell the girl that I hate fucking a condom LOL. I had only once AO in the very first session with a girl in Oase. All others after 2-3 sessions, some after much longer.
HammerTime96
08-04-21, 22:29
Sharks girls are kinda shy for this, I don't really get it, but still you can do some public sex upstairs couch area or outdoor, even though some girls told me management pays them 50 e if they do public show sex (probably in that case management won't allow BBBJ for legal liability reasons).In Sharks I fucked Helen (RO) once in that couch area upstairs when there was a long waiting time for a room. Initially she wanted to upsell this for 50 Euros, but when I said "na, we can just wait for a room" she quickly did the math and she calculated that the faster she 'finished' me, the faster she could be back hunting for the next customer. LOL!
There were 2 other couples fucking there at that time. I'm not particularly into public sex, but I'm not shy either. , and by focusing on Helen (she's quite hot IMHO), I was able to cum pretty quickly. It was an interesting experience, being seen by others fucking Helen and also being able to watch other couples fucking at the same time, but it wasn't a big deal.
I also fucked a WG in the Kino (when it was still a Kino) in Sharks. I can't remember her name anymore as it was a long time ago, but the Kino was usually mostly empty anyway so it was "public sex" in name only. Some guys were watching us from a distance.
I've seen a guy fuck a girl in one of that corner jacuzzi in GT, but one of those 'management girls' quickly came over and put a stop to it. She later had a word with the guy and the WG, so perhaps they got into a bit of trouble. (perhaps out of hygiene reasons, no fucking allowed in the pool?) Now that I'm writing about GT, I remember that I've also fucked a few WGs in the GT Kino when room waiting times were too long. Again, no big deal IMHO, but it's nice that at least it's possible when you're into it.
P.S. I would never pay extra for it. It usually works in both the customer and the WG's favour: no room waiting times, so we both finish quicker. For a WG time is money, so instead of waiting for a free room, a WG can be back in the main lounge again a lot quicker. Same for me: the faster I'm finished, the quicker I can take a shower, enjoy a sauna, get a meal, have a rest or recover, and be ready for the next girl. Win-win for both, so some friendly advice to the vaxxed dummies with their QR codes and tracking apps: never pay extra! LOL!
Short answer: Not as an option like a rate card or in RTCs or Bernds.
Long answer: All of these girls fuck someone AO every week, you just need to be that guy to her even at an FKK. But don't go ask her for AO in first intro, better yet don't even ask, just let a situation happen, but that said most would AO with you if she likes you in the intro session and realizes you are clean. Sometimes though I do tell the girl that I hate fucking a condom LOL. I had only once AO in the very first session with a girl in Oase. All others after 2-3 sessions, some after much longer.AO is something I have not done in FKK, in escort I have, but somehow I never asked in FKK. It is shame because I could think few regular stunners that I had some trust that they are clean and I could have done it, but back then, the thought never really came across my mind while I am in FKK and always used condom for pussy or anal intercourse.
For pussy, I may do it in FKK when I find stunner regular, but I have to think about this as in escort, I get normal stunner that has normal life before, but in FKK, most have been in the industry for awhile, so it make me wonder though I never had any STD during my over 10 years in FKK and considering so called AO clubs were managed without big outbreak of big STD before summer 2017 law, doing AO with FKK girls can be not too big risk! Got to think about it.
You are partially correct. Yes, Globe Switzerland is the best place now for public sex; they even have a public sex context every Tuesdays at 3:00 pm for you to win 5 free entry and 5 free 30 minutes session, totaling about 1200 Swiss Franc to win every Tuesday! God I so hope that I can visit Globe in next few weeks!
You can still have full on public sex with BBBJ in Oase, Finca, LR (if and when it reopens) and most other clubs in Germany, long after that stupid 2017 law came in effect. I was in Oase probably 5-6 times in Jan-Feb 2020, and only times I had sex in a room was with AO girls. Sharks girls are kinda shy for this, I don't really get it, but still you can do some public sex upstairs couch area or outdoor, even though some girls told me management pays them 50 e if they do public show sex (probably in that case management won't allow BBBJ for legal liability reasons).
In any case, go ahead and indulge in public sex with BBBJ in Germany, you just need to find a right girl who's DTF in public and hit it off with her. A shot of tequila or vodka might help her to open up haha. And also be careful to watch just in case any razzia happens LOL.For the price being higher than all other FKK, Globe is the best if you do not mind the high pricing strategy of Ingo because there are no upsell, no bad service in Globe! And I do find stunners there, not as much as it is hyped, but stunners are there!
I just hope they will do something to rooftop during summer to make open sky fuck curtain room or something like that. In winter, it would be nice to have some tents there too with some kind of warm stove.
Final assessment of FKK scene in Western Germany.
Most clubs are obviously quite down.
Sharks and Samya (although I am extrapolating by filling in girls I know are working on nights I wasn't there) are the top optics clubs at the moment. The girls seem to be concentrating at these clubs. Unfortunately so are the men. Other clubs are worth visiting if you have more days and are willing to do some hunting and okay with some light days where you only have 2 or 3 girls you would do. Northern NRW clubs like Penelope, Aca Gold and Aca Prime will still answer the cheap entry / cheap room niche so long as you are okay with a smaller optically pleasing pool. But all I need is 2-3 doable girls per club.
Sharks upsell situation is better than what was reported at the beginning of July although still definitely present. Oase is still an upsell nightmare. NRW clubs seem unchanged, just the occasional CBJ to BBBJ upcharge.
Getting to Germany and traveling around was quite the same. Getting back to your country might be the more difficult part. For US residents or others needing a test to return, just Google Maps "TestZentrum" and you will find a medical lab that offers covid testing. I used one in Cologne called "walk-in ZotsKlimas. " Antigen testing was 21.5 e. You can be in and out in 5 minutes and have the results by the next day if not earlier. They do not take cash.
Rental cars are higher but not as high as some make it out to be. I rented through my Hilton membership and got an intermediate for 46 e per day for 7 days. More expensive but not extreme. If I booked a month earlier, the price was closer to 35 e per day.
Coming back to the States was a nightmare. Getting through Customs lines was complete chaos.
End of the day, know that the scene is in recovery so curb your expectations. Yet somehow, I pulled off 2 rooms that were top 15 rooms of all time. One was with a Sharks veteran and another was with a new-to-me Samya girl. Both rooms I paid base rate for all-inclusive service. Great rooms are there, you might just run into some landmines finding them.
I have seen a few uncovered blow jobs here and there in public since the rule change but of course nothing like what it used to be back in the day when fucking in public was seen fairly regularly in the kino or gardens. Public fucking is not my thing and I never asked nor accepted it; however, my guess is that along with the rule change, the change in the guest mix and girls have contributed. Now, we have a lot more Asians and others who tend to be a bit shy or not into public sex anyhow (some guys even wearing underwear, a towel, and then a robe); also, girls no longer offer even blow jobs in kinos and the younger generation Romies tend to look at every single thing as a money making oppty; anything more than a bored covered blow job + perfunctory fuck deserves extra money in their minds.
Back in the day, a quick blow job in the kino was a way for the girl to get the client interested and close the sale. Now, the supply demand curves have shifted in their favor and they don't need to give out quick samples to lure clients. Far from it.
If the guy doesn't ask for it and the girl doesn't offer it, public sex is going the way of dodo. I won't lie, it makes for good viewing if the guy next to you is blown. Oh well.From legal standpoint, the authority can charge you heavy fine, but I never heard it has been enforced. That law was targeting AO clubs anyways.
AO is something I have not done in FKK, in escort I have, but somehow I never asked in FKK. It is shame because I could think few regular stunners that I had some trust that they are clean and I could have done it, but back then, the thought never really came across my mind while I am in FKK and always used condom for pussy or anal intercourse.
For pussy, I may do it in FKK when I find stunner regular, but I have to think about this as in escort, I get normal stunner that has normal life before, but in FKK, most have been in the industry for awhile, so it make me wonder though I never had any STD during my over 10 years in FKK and considering so called AO clubs were managed without big outbreak of big STD before summer 2017 law, doing AO with FKK girls can be not too big risk! Got to think about it.The main reason the German government started the CBJ which is mainly never followed is the resistant gonorrhea. This has lead to increasing the dose of ceftriaxone from 250 MG to 500 MG and using doxycyline 100 MG twice a day for 7 days instead of the single dose zithromax. The resistant gonorrhea is now the main gonorrhea in the USA in that the CDC updated its treatment of gonorrhea in 2020 to reflect this. Originally the resistant gonorrhea started in Southeast Asia then migrated to Europe and then to the USA.
ExpatLover
08-05-21, 09:51
AO is something I have not done in FKK, in escort I have, but somehow I never asked in FKK. It is shame because I could think few regular stunners that I had some trust that they are clean and I could have done it, but back then, the thought never really came across my mind while I am in FKK and always used condom for pussy or anal intercourse.
For pussy, I may do it in FKK when I find stunner regular, but I have to think about this as in escort, I get normal stunner that has normal life before, but in FKK, most have been in the industry for awhile, so it make me wonder though I never had any STD during my over 10 years in FKK and considering so called AO clubs were managed without big outbreak of big STD before summer 2017 law, doing AO with FKK girls can be not too big risk! Got to think about it.Sorry but the guys who catches some MST are never advertising about it. With escorts the risk is lower because usually they have less clients per day but in a FKK the risk is very high specially with the new type of clientele that are there in the recent years.
Short answer: Not as an option like a rate card or in RTCs or Bernds.
Long answer: All of these girls fuck someone AO every week, you just need to be that guy to her even at an FKK. But don't go ask her for AO in first intro, better yet don't even ask, just let a situation happen, but that said most would AO with you if she likes you in the intro session and realizes you are clean. Sometimes though I do tell the girl that I hate fucking a condom LOL. I had only once AO in the very first session with a girl in Oase. All others after 2-3 sessions, some after much longer.50 EUR extra for AO or included? I "know" some girls in Sharks that iv'e also fucked in hotels and at their homes but I have never dared to ask anyone of them for AO LOL.
Smoke Light
08-05-21, 15:14
50 EUR extra for AO or included? I "know" some girls in Sharks that iv'e also fucked in hotels and at their homes but I have never dared to ask anyone of them for AO LOL.My experience is after you repeat sessions with same girls they begin offering AO the 3rd or 4th day. Not the 3rd or 4th session, I am talking repeat days, so they begin to sense you are a new "regular". Back in the day I was getting many AO offers from LR girls. Generally you would need at least 2 weeks to build an impression of a regular client. In this regard and many others the locals have a huge advantage compared to us tourists.
I am not an AO guy, I fill the rubber (preferably 3-4 times) and I go to sleep in peace. My kink is group sex like MMF but only with very specific girl types.
50 EUR extra for AO or included? I "know" some girls in Sharks that iv'e also fucked in hotels and at their homes but I have never dared to ask anyone of them for AO LOL.Interestingly, I never paid extra for AO, though I was in rooms usually one hour or longer, sometimes much longer. Also, in very few cases, if we became friends outside FKK, paid for lunch or dinner sometimes, or if we went to some dance clubs, bought her drinks etc. Like I said earlier, these girls, like any girl, will do AO with you if they feel you are clean AND they want to enjoy AO with you. Not for money. Like most normal people I ever met, they also sometimes like real sex, not fucking a condom that they do for their job many times everyday. But good thing is that once you have AO with a girl, she will always do AO with you, she will never ask you for using condoms ever again, even if you haven't seen her for couple years (in my experience), I'm surprised about their long term memory particularly when they fuck so many new guys every week in the FKK!
ExpatLover
08-05-21, 16:56
Short answer: Not as an option like a rate card or in RTCs or Bernds.
Long answer: All of these girls fuck someone AO every week, you just need to be that guy to her even at an FKK. But don't go ask her for AO in first intro, better yet don't even ask, just let a situation happen, but that said most would AO with you if she likes you in the intro session and realizes you are clean. Sometimes though I do tell the girl that I hate fucking a condom LOL. I had only once AO in the very first session with a girl in Oase. All others after 2-3 sessions, some after much longer.Several girls proposed AO to me, I always declined and left the room and never booked them again. My health is more important than 5 second pleasure but this seems not be the case for all the mongers some are controlled by their libido, sad for them.
My experience is after you repeat sessions with same girls they begin offering AO the 3rd or 4th day. Not the 3rd or 4th session, I am talking repeat days, so they begin to sense you are a new "regular". Back in the day I was getting many AO offers from LR girls. Generally you would need at least 2 weeks to build an impression of a regular client. In this regard and many others the locals have a huge advantage compared to us tourists.
I am not an AO guy, I fill the rubber (preferably 3-4 times) and I go to sleep in peace. My kink is group sex like MMF but only with very specific girl types.Interesting. I can understand MFF, we all want it (or MFFFFF.) but why MMF? Foursome would be tolerable with trusted parties I suppose or in college, but MMF as a fantasy? That is definitely an interesting one.
Several girls proposed AO to me, I always declined and left the room and never booked them again. My health is more important than 5 second pleasure but this seems not be the case for all the mongers some are controlled by their libido, sad for them.5 second sounds super fast, quicker than Usain Bolt.
Even if it is AO.
The main reason the German government started the CBJ which is mainly never followed is the resistant gonorrhea. This has lead to increasing the dose of ceftriaxone from 250 MG to 500 MG and using doxycyline 100 MG twice a day for 7 days instead of the single dose zithromax. The resistant gonorrhea is now the main gonorrhea in the USA in that the CDC updated its treatment of gonorrhea in 2020 to reflect this. Originally the resistant gonorrhea started in Southeast Asia then migrated to Europe and then to the USA.But gonorrhea can be fixed without treating it, it is minor STD. I would say it is to prevent more hardcore STD that can easily be transmitted in platform like AO clubs which is hardcore. Additionally, I think it is to protect girls in AO clubs as I think not many girls will willingly walk into AO clubs, they are kind of pushed or forced to in AO clubs, not by life situation, but by some people. Unlike FKK.
Sorry but the guys who catches some MST are never advertising about it. With escorts the risk is lower because usually they have less clients per day but in a FKK the risk is very high specially with the new type of clientele that are there in the recent years.I agree with numbers of clients, but I read sometimes about STD on this forum, but it is very low risk at FKK than I originally thought. I have been licking anal of stunner girls for past 24 years, I never had any STD, I don't know about them licking my ass though LOL! Because I do not meet them anymore LOL! I hope they were ok LOL! Well we have the best toilet in Japan, so it should be ok LOL!
But gonorrhea can be fixed without treating it, it is minor STD. I would say it is to prevent more hardcore STD that can easily be transmitted in platform like AO clubs which is hardcore. Additionally, I think it is to protect girls in AO clubs as I think not many girls will willingly walk into AO clubs, they are kind of pushed or forced to in AO clubs, not by life situation, but by some people. Unlike FKK.I am far from being a doc. And I am not an AO club dude either. But your sentence "gonorrhea can be fixed without treating it, it is minor STD. I would say it is to prevent more hardcore STD that can easily be transmitted in platform like AO clubs which is hardcore" does not make sense to me. I can understand that STDs are more easily transmitted in AO clubs. But where is the proof that "more hardcore STDs" are endemic in AO clubs and "minor STDs" are in mainstream clubs like Sharks?
I have seen media articles about drug resistant STDs. It seems to be a matter of luck. You could fuck that wholesome girl you met at the grocery store last week who may have recently been infected with a drug resistant disease and did not even know it but gives it to you in your first copulation, while the hardcore $100 street walker puta that looks like she could play the step mother in those cheesy porn movies may be still clean.
When I come to think about FKK and women in it or quite many girls who are like this in normal life that even doing it for free LOL!
It takes a lot of insanity or is it human nature to suck strangers penis for 50 euro or even for 100 euro per hour and in case of FKK, many times over per day everyday LOL!
Whatta creatures some women are LOL!
Or would they say same for men? LOL! Well we have need, but do they have need to suck dick too? LOL!
5 second sounds super fast, quicker than Usain Bolt.
Even if it is AO.You didn't know his nick name? LOL!
I am far from being a doc. And I am not an AO club dude either. But your sentence "gonorrhea can be fixed without treating it, it is minor STD. I would say it is to prevent more hardcore STD that can easily be transmitted in platform like AO clubs which is hardcore" does not make sense to me. I can understand that STDs are more easily transmitted in AO clubs. But where is the proof that "more hardcore STDs" are endemic in AO clubs and "minor STDs" are in mainstream clubs like Sharks?
I have seen media articles about drug resistant STDs. It seems to be a matter of luck. You could fuck that wholesome girl you met at the grocery store last week who may have recently been infected with a drug resistant disease and did not even know it but gives it to you in your first copulation, while the hardcore $100 street walker puta that looks like she could play the step mother in those cheesy porn movies may be still clean.That is what I wrote LOL!
Look, it is simple, you go outside, you may get hit by car, or you go on plane, it might crush, but we do those activities because we are willing to take that risk!
Now, it is same for mongering, I did not take risk to go to AO as I thought about going, but in the end I did not and also I did not ask girls in FKK to do AO yet as I feel somehow sketchy about girls who work in the FKK situation which is arguably little different to escort situation, but in away it is the same, but in different degree. The thing is how much risk are you willing to take?
To be monger for life, you have to be alive and healthy, so I will do many thing that is more and beyond than some other mongers, but I will control the risk.
I am more worried about HPV in throat than other std now actually.
Dr Poo, it is all about risk control when we go and pee pee in girls mouth with sperm in FKK LOL!
I am far from being a doc. And I am not an AO club dude either. But your sentence "gonorrhea can be fixed without treating it, it is minor STD. I would say it is to prevent more hardcore STD that can easily be transmitted in platform like AO clubs which is hardcore" does not make sense to me. I can understand that STDs are more easily transmitted in AO clubs. But where is the proof that "more hardcore STDs" are endemic in AO clubs and "minor STDs" are in mainstream clubs like Sharks?
I have seen media articles about drug resistant STDs. It seems to be a matter of luck. You could fuck that wholesome girl you met at the grocery store last week who may have recently been infected with a drug resistant disease and did not even know it but gives it to you in your first copulation, while the hardcore $100 street walker puta that looks like she could play the step mother in those cheesy porn movies may be still clean.But chlamydia can be a real problem for women, about pregnancy.
But gonorrhea can be fixed without treating it, it is minor STD. I would say it is to prevent more hardcore STD that can easily be transmitted in platform like AO clubs which is hardcore. Additionally, I think it is to protect girls in AO clubs as I think not many girls will willingly walk into AO clubs, they are kind of pushed or forced to in AO clubs, not by life situation, but by some people. Unlike FKK.If you don't treat gonorrhea you will become sterile and develop arthritis and generalized infection of in the heart valves leading to cardiac problems and increased death and disability.
It also makes transmission of HIV more likely.
So in sum it needs to be treated in all cases.
ExpatLover
08-06-21, 12:18
I agree with numbers of clients, but I read sometimes about STD on this forum, but it is very low risk at FKK than I originally thought. I have been licking anal of stunner girls for past 24 years, I never had any STD, I don't know about them licking my ass though LOL! Because I do not meet them anymore LOL! I hope they were ok LOL! Well we have the best toilet in Japan, so it should be ok LOL!As a veteran in the FKK scene, the best way to get trustful info is to ask some reliable girls and you will be surprised about what they think about some girls. In the big FKK every day you have girls who have some MST but there is 0 control except in Sakura where the girls can go 1 time per week to the doctor.
Final assessment of FKK scene in Western Germany.
Most clubs are obviously quite down.
Sharks and Samya (although I am extrapolating by filling in girls I know are working on nights I wasn't there) are the top optics clubs at the moment. The girls seem to be concentrating at these clubs. Unfortunately so are the men. Other clubs are worth visiting if you have more days and are willing to do some hunting and okay with some light days where you only have 2 or 3 girls you would do. Northern NRW clubs like Penelope, Aca Gold and Aca Prime will still answer the cheap entry / cheap room niche so long as you are okay with a smaller optically pleasing pool. But all I need is 2-3 doable girls per club.
Sharks upsell situation is better than what was reported at the beginning of July although still definitely present. Oase is still an upsell nightmare. NRW clubs seem unchanged, just the occasional CBJ to BBBJ upcharge.
Getting to Germany and traveling around was quite the same. Getting back to your country might be the more difficult part. For US residents or others needing a test to return, just Google Maps "TestZentrum" and you will find a medical lab that offers covid testing. I used one in Cologne called "walk-in ZotsKlimas. " Antigen testing was 21.5 e. You can be in and out in 5 minutes and have the results by the next day if not earlier. They do not take cash.So you are corona free after your trip to Germany? You just went right?
Don't we miss the days when things are normal LOL It is odd how airport around the world became chaos, I mean why? Less traveler, so it should be more easy to handle!
But gonorrhea can be fixed without treating it, it is minor STD.No, it cannot. If gonorrhea remains undetected and undiagnosed for a long period of time, the infection is likely to spread and affect other parts of the body. Patients who have carried the infection for a long time are at risk of complications and may begin to experience gonorrhea symptoms months or even years after infection.
The main reason the German government started the CBJ which is mainly never followed is the resistant gonorrhea. This has lead to increasing the dose of ceftriaxone from 250 MG to 500 MG and using doxycyline 100 MG twice a day for 7 days instead of the single dose zithromax. The resistant gonorrhea is now the main gonorrhea in the USA in that the CDC updated its treatment of gonorrhea in 2020 to reflect this. Originally the resistant gonorrhea started in Southeast Asia then migrated to Europe and then to the USA.When I first started going to brothels in the 70's bare back sex was the norm. No one used a condom back then: girls were on the pill and that was that. I got STDs countless times and got pills from the pharmacy to deal with them. Then came AIDS. I got a sore throat that would not quit that scared the shit out of me as that was one of the early symptoms. An AIDS test proved negative. From the beginning of the 90's to now I have used a condom for sex and have not looked back except for a few instances in South East Asia which I ended up regretting.
No, it cannot. If gonorrhea remains undetected and undiagnosed for a long period of time, the infection is likely to spread and affect other parts of the body. Patients who have carried the infection for a long time are at risk of complications and may begin to experience gonorrhea symptoms months or even years after infection.You feel the pain, so you will know you have it, so you will be treated, but you are right that it won't get fixed by itself. We mongers must have been lick in FKK getting our dick sucked by multiple girls years after years and we are alright!
When I first started going to brothels in the 70's bare back sex was the norm. No one used a condom back then: girls were on the pill and that was that. I got STDs countless times and got pills from the pharmacy to deal with them. Then came AIDS. I got a sore throat that would not quit that scared the shit out of me as that was one of the early symptoms. An AIDS test proved negative. From the beginning of the 90's to now I have used a condom for sex and have not looked back except for a few instances in South East Asia which I ended up regretting.It must have been the survival of the fittest back then! HIV is mostly contracted via anal sex without condom, so as long as it is pussy penetration, it is more or less ok from the standpoint of probability.
As a veteran in the FKK scene, the best way to get trustful info is to ask some reliable girls and you will be surprised about what they think about some girls. In the big FKK every day you have girls who have some MST but there is 0 control except in Sakura where the girls can go 1 time per week to the doctor.Also in Artemis, you have in house MD since I have been there in 2010. I only heard about good food for FKK level about sakura, but doctor there too, it is a good thing both for us and girls and society!
If you don't treat gonorrhea you will become sterile and develop arthritis and generalized infection of in the heart valves leading to cardiac problems and increased death and disability.
It also makes transmission of HIV more likely.
So in sum it needs to be treated in all cases.Right, you will feel the pain with this disease, so you will go to doctor eventually, that is a good thing.
When I first started going to brothels in the 70's bare back sex was the norm. No one used a condom back then: girls were on the pill and that was that. I got STDs countless times and got pills from the pharmacy to deal with them. Then came AIDS. I got a sore throat that would not quit that scared the shit out of me as that was one of the early symptoms. An AIDS test proved negative. From the beginning of the 90's to now I have used a condom for sex and have not looked back except for a few instances in South East Asia which I ended up regretting.Like Ho said, it's about personal level of risk tolerance for personal level of sexual pleasures. For me, fucking a condom to reduce STD risks doesn't make sense, and I put that risk at the same level as risk of my airplane to crash. I don't want be in death bed wishing I should have enjoyed life more my way when I could. But on the other hand I thank you all condom fuckers very much for reducing my risks in doing AO with these girls. Amen.
Like Ho said, it's about personal level of risk tolerance for personal level of sexual pleasures. For me, fucking a condom to reduce STD risks doesn't make sense, and I put that risk at the same level as risk of my airplane to crash. I don't want be in death bed wishing I should have enjoyed life more my way when I could. But on the other hand I thank you all condom fuckers very much for reducing my risks in doing AO with these girls. Amen.It is all about how much risk you are willing to take. It is risk vs reward always!
In FKK, it is not bad as some other places, but risk is there, so you choose what kind of risk you are willing to take and rest is luck like whether we find the stunner in FKK or not LOL!
Ho choose to go hard in FKK balancing with risk LOL!
Many of the girls in FKK already have child, and sometimes, it is the reason why they work in FKK!
ExpatLover
08-07-21, 06:26
Like Ho said, it's about personal level of risk tolerance for personal level of sexual pleasures. For me, fucking a condom to reduce STD risks doesn't make sense, and I put that risk at the same level as risk of my airplane to crash. I don't want be in death bed wishing I should have enjoyed life more my way when I could. But on the other hand I thank you all condom fuckers very much for reducing my risks in doing AO with these girls. Amen.When I used to be very active in the FKK, 2 times each year I went in France to dedicated places to test myself about all the MST. There you meet medical teams, it is free and even you can stay anonymous. The doctors don t share you opinion at all and consider having sex with prostitutes is at very high risk, only desperate girls will accept AO, and what they do with you they will do with others. For sure you never got AO from the stunners in the FKK. To rely on others to have the feeling to be safe is a strange mindset, could be interesting for you to understand why you like to take this kind of high risk for yourself, better sex is just a excuse, may be it is a king of roulette russe you like to play.
You feel the pain, so you will know you have it, so you will be treated, but you are right that it won't get fixed by itself. We mongers must have been lick in FKK getting our dick sucked by multiple girls years after years and we are alright!Many STDs are asymptomatic so you won't always feel the pain. Personally, I 100% always wrap up with active working women.
It's not just the potential for pain and risk for arthritis, sterility, and catching a drug resistant "super STD" that's the issue, it's the fact that you would knowingly be spreading it to an innocent non-working woman which is actually illegal in the states.
"You can be convicted of the criminal transmission of an STD only if you cause someone else to be infected intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly."
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/transmitting-std-criminal-laws-penalties.htm
At the end of the day, I've had STDs from non-working women, and I'm not willing to take that risk with working women. Ever.
ShinyCrazy
08-07-21, 12:54
I am headed to Darmstadt and Cologne and theüsseldorf in about a week. According to the Robert Koch Institute website, it looks like theüsseldorf and Cologne are already past the threshold of 35 cases for mandatory closure of clubs. Am I correct? Should I just stay in the Frankfurt area? Any recommendations?
Here is the current COVID19 map:
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4
I am headed to Darmstadt and Cologne and thesseldorf in about a week. According to the Robert Koch Institute website, it looks like thesseldorf and Cologne are already past the threshold of 35 cases for mandatory closure of clubs. Am I correct? Should I just stay in the Frankfurt area? Any recommendations?
Here is the current COVID19 map:
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4Beside masks and pcr test. Please be sure to prepare good pc and pay for your hotel room with strong free wifi connection and train your right hand because you might be needing it in the hotel room LOL!
If German FKK close, just take a train to Zurich, it is close enough and FKK is open in capitalist central Switzerland!
Smoke Light
08-07-21, 13:48
Interesting. I can understand MFF, we all want it (or MFFFFF.) but why MMF? Foursome would be tolerable with trusted parties I suppose or in college, but MMF as a fantasy? That is definitely an interesting one.MMF or MMMF brings up the thrill of a little hesitation is girl's eyes in terms of how well she can handle 2 or more horny men at the same time. Girls are used to quick adjustments with one man, but it is a little harder to do everything "her way" with two or more. If the chemistry is right, all of the sudden there is an enormous release of energy, everything starts moving at fast speed. Typically I want the youngest and most innocent looking girl for a trio fun. In the past I remember in LR talking to a guy from Baltimore and he got really interested, and we teamed up. In Samya, I had this fun with a young Turkish guy, he was very horny and enjoyed it quite a bit. Also a room like this with a nice gentleman from Serbia with a large tool.
A typical experience is taking turns in CBJ then fucking mercilessly and hard. Doggy, CG, switching between pussy and mouth, each man finishing in whatever position he likes. I prefer mish since it makes it possible for a nice and fast pace at the conclusion.
Generally it is a non-stop pounding and a rather quick 10-15 minutes room. I like to bring the money with me to the room so I can pay and go whenever I am done, no need to wait for her second partner. Hope this answers your question.
Unfortunately English speaking folk are quite less in clubs nowadays. In Samya on Thursday I talked to a group of English-speaking group of guests who were from Paris. Yesterday I had a day off. Heading back to Samya tonight. Life is good.
For Germany, better to buy transport You can cancel and get your money back. Girls start to worry and tell about private.
I am headed to Darmstadt and Cologne and thesseldorf in about a week. According to the Robert Koch Institute website, it looks like thesseldorf and Cologne are already past the threshold of 35 cases for mandatory closure of clubs. Am I correct? Should I just stay in the Frankfurt area? Any recommendations?
Here is the current COVID19 map:
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4Dusseldorf clubs are closed.
But Magnum (Ekrath) and ACA Gold (Ratingen) belong to Kreis Mettmann and are still open.
ShinyCrazy
08-07-21, 17:12
Dusseldorf clubs are closed.
But Magnum (Ekrath) and ACA Gold (Ratingen) belong to Kreis Mettmann and are still open.Thanks for the update! I didn't realize that Magnum had reopened, and I thought that Dolce Vita was open. I did find a link from NRW government that states the cutoff is 50 for "saunas" and leisure facilities:
https://www.land.nrw/de/wichtige-fragen-und-antworten-zum-corona-virus#0 a57 cfbb.
ShinyCrazy
08-07-21, 17:28
This link from the NRW government says that brothels can open when the number is below 35, but saunas must be below 50. So, are FKK clubs officially "saunas" or "brothels", and why are the Dusseldorf clubs closed when the numbers have not hit 50 yet? Guess I'll target hitting Sharks, Samya, and Acapulco Gold, and if the numbers creep up and close the club I'm visiting, I'll just hop a train to one of the others.
https://www.mags.nrw/coronavirus-regeln-nrw
This link from the NRW government says that brothels can open when the number is below 35, but saunas must be below 50. So, are FKK clubs officially "saunas" or "brothels", and why are the Dusseldorf clubs closed when the numbers have not hit 50 yet? Guess I'll target hitting Sharks, Samya, and Acapulco Gold, and if the numbers creep up and close the club I'm visiting, I'll just hop a train to one of the others.
https://www.mags.nrw/coronavirus-regeln-nrwIt seems to be different rules in different regions (Bundeslnder).
Dusseldorf has had Inzidenz-numbers above 35 for more than one week.
Mettmann has had below 35 for several weeks. However, above 35 today (35,8).
I think it must be above 35 for several days until clubs are closed.
In which group do you find brothels / sauna clubs?
https://www.mags.nrw/coronavirus-regeln-nrw
ShinyCrazy
08-07-21, 19:01
The "sauna" and "brothel" categories are mentioned under the "Leisure" tab (after my browser has translated it to English). Here is the translation:
Level 1 (7-day incidence stable between 10.1 and 35):
Outdoor pools and smaller outdoor facilities may open without proof of testing.
Excursions with ships, carriages, historic railways and similar facilities as well as the visit of casinos without test certificate, although the national incidence is less than 35.
Brothels, etc. May open with negative test detection.
Clubs and discos may open outdoors for up to 250 people, provided that negative test records are available.
From 27. August 2021:
If the national incidence is also less than 35, clubs and discos may open the interior without limiting people. Prerequisite for this are negative test evidence and an approved concept.
Level 2 (7-day incidence stable between 35.1 and 50):
The opening of all baths, saunas, etc. And indoor playgrounds with negative test records and personal limitation is allowed.
If the country's incidence is also less than 50, the opening of amusement parks and casinos with negative test evidence and personal limitation is possible.
Excursions with ships, carriages, historic railways and similar facilities are also possible indoors with negative test certificates in the event of a country incidence under 50.
ShinyCrazy
08-07-21, 19:24
Yikes. Based on a threshold of 35, things don't look good. Unless I am misreading the Robert Koch map, it appears that almost every club in NRW will be forced to close within the next week or so. They are all in regions above 35 right now.
I don't know the fine details of German geography, and I would welcome any suggestions for FKKs in lower incidence areas of NRW / Hesse. I don't have a car, so trains / taxis / walking are my modes of transportation.
Living Room and Rheingold in "Rhein Kreis Neuss" have an incidence of 23.2, but to my knowledge, Living Room never reopened.
Sharks in Darmstadt has an incidence of 18.1.
I might be stuck in Hesse for my FKK days.
Any other ideas? (And please don't suggest Switzerland or Austria. It has to be in NRW / Hesse.).
... But on the other hand I thank you all condom fuckers very much for reducing my risks in doing AO with these girls. Amen.This is a nice change. Most raw dog mongers tend to harbor indignation against the condom paramours. Quite perplexing.
MMF or MMMF brings up the thrill of a little hesitation is girl's eyes in terms of how well she can handle 2 or more horny men at the same time. Girls are used to quick adjustments with one man, but it is a little harder to do everything "her way" with two or more. If the chemistry is right, all of the sudden there is an enormous release of energy, everything starts moving at fast speed. Typically I want the youngest and most innocent looking girl for a trio fun. In the past I remember in LR talking to a guy from Baltimore and he got really interested, and we teamed up. In Samya, I had this fun with a young Turkish guy, he was very horny and enjoyed it quite a bit. Also a room like this with a nice gentleman from Serbia with a large tool.
A typical experience is taking turns in CBJ then fucking mercilessly and hard. Doggy, CG, switching between pussy and mouth, each man finishing in whatever position he likes. I prefer mish since it makes it possible for a nice and fast pace at the conclusion.
Generally it is a non-stop pounding and a rather quick 10-15 minutes room. I like to bring the money with me to the room so I can pay and go whenever I am done, no need to wait for her second partner. Hope this answers your question.
Unfortunately English speaking folk are quite less in clubs nowadays. In Samya on Thursday I talked to a group of English-speaking group of guests who were from Paris. Yesterday I had a day off. Heading back to Samya tonight. Life is good.Thank you! You are a good writer. It is still not for me I suspect, but very nicely articulated!
How do you scope out the other mongers in the club to broach this idea? I have never been asked. I imagine most guys will be taken aback or at the least a bit surprised if some random dude asks them "hey, you want to do a threesome with this broad?
ShinyCrazy
08-07-21, 21:24
Here's my attempt to make a list of FKKs in low incidence regions in NRW / Hesse:
Happy Garden in Tonisvorst (Viersen) 20.7.
Rheingold in Willich (Viersen) 20.7.
Villa Vanilla in Grefath (Rhein-Kreis Neuss) 23.2.
Park Sauna Residenz in Lohmar (Rhein Sieg Kreis) 23.1.
Finca Erotica in Dierdorf (Neuwied) 26.8.
Bernds in Hennef (Rhein Sieg Kreis) 23.1.
World in Giessen (Giessen) 13.7.
Sharks in Darmstadt (Darmstadt) 18.1.
Oase in Friedrichsdorf (Hochtaunuskreis) 19.4.
In this list, I have experience with Oase and Sharks. Are other clubs on this list worth the effort to go via public transport?
I am headed to Darmstadt and Cologne and thesseldorf in about a week. According to the Robert Koch Institute website, it looks like thesseldorf and Cologne are already past the threshold of 35 cases for mandatory closure of clubs. Am I correct? Should I just stay in the Frankfurt area? Any recommendations?
Here is the current COVID19 map:
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4Ohhhh bad news, I bought my ticket few days ago and visiting Sharks hopefully on 17 August, so I hope cases stay down. Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaase no more close.
Many STDs are asymptomatic so you won't always feel the pain. Personally, I 100% always wrap up with active working women.
It's not just the potential for pain and risk for arthritis, sterility, and catching a drug resistant "super STD" that's the issue, it's the fact that you would knowingly be spreading it to an innocent non-working woman which is actually illegal in the states.
"You can be convicted of the criminal transmission of an STD only if you cause someone else to be infected intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly."
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/transmitting-std-criminal-laws-penalties.htm
At the end of the day, I've had STDs from non-working women, and I'm not willing to take that risk with working women. Ever.Your last sentence do not make sense LOL! But normal girls is more dirty than working girl in good platform like some FKK LOL!
Keep your immune strong, and rest are luck like a lot of diseases in life. Enjoy enough by taking some risks or one might as well use your right hand only LOL! Safest and free, but just a pc and WIFI!
ShinyCrazy
08-08-21, 01:40
Status of Covid restrictions in NRW:
https://www.land.nrw/de/wichtige-fragen-und-antworten-zum-corona-virus#032 c609 see.
Status of Covid restrictions in Cologne specifically:
https://www.cologne-tourism.com/plan-inform/newsroom/news/corona-in-cologne/
Where to get tested in NRW in general:
https://www.land.nrw/corona#testzentren.
Where to get tested in thesseldorf specifically:
https://corona.duesseldorf.de/schnelltest
Where to get tested in Cologne specifically:
https://www.stadt-koeln.de/leben-in-koeln/gesundheit/infektionsschutz/corona-virus/beauftragte-teststellen-koeln
Status of Covid restrictions in Hesse:
https://www.hessen.de/questions-and-answers-on-the-most-important-rules-and-arrangements
Status of Covid restrictions in Frankfurt:
https://frankfurt.de/english/corona-information
Covid testing at Frankfurt Airport:
https://www.frankfurt-airport.com/en/flights-and-transfer/covid-19/coronavirus-testing-at-the-airport.html
Robert Koch Institute dashboard (the 7 day average determines whether clubs open or close. Below 35, and they are open):
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4
Status of Covid restrictions in NRW:
https://www.land.nrw/de/wichtige-fragen-und-antworten-zum-corona-virus#032 c609 see.
Status of Covid restrictions in Cologne specifically:
https://www.cologne-tourism.com/plan-inform/newsroom/news/corona-in-cologne/
Where to get tested in NRW in general:
https://www.land.nrw/corona#testzentren.
Where to get tested in thesseldorf specifically:
https://corona.duesseldorf.de/schnelltest
Where to get tested in Cologne specifically:
https://www.stadt-koeln.de/leben-in-koeln/gesundheit/infektionsschutz/corona-virus/beauftragte-teststellen-koeln
Status of Covid restrictions in Hesse:.And the government expect travelers and mongers to look through each details of these links and unite the information that is contradicting between different departments into one to figure out what is required to enter or do things in Germany? For fucking stunner and getting our dick, sucked and fucked by young stunners, hell yeah LOL!
ExpatLover
08-08-21, 02:51
Your last sentence do not make sense LOL! But normal girls is more dirty than working girl in good platform like some FKK LOL!
Keep your immune strong, and rest are luck like a lot of diseases in life. Enjoy enough by taking some risks or one might as well use your right hand only LOL! Safest and free, but just a pc and WIFI!I don't know about what you are thinking when you say normal girls are more dirty but for sure the risk to catch a MST with a prostitutes specially in RLD or FKK is very high due to the fact that they meet many guys from everywhere who knows that they have few chances to be caught even they know they are positive.
Seriously!
Whether it is escort or FKK, there is nothing better in this world than getting your dick sucked and fucked by beautiful stunner!
There are many beautiful things in life, I am fortunate enough to experience that, but seriously, there is nothing better than what I wrote above!
Those men who criticize are not normal men, it is not even to do with each their own, they simply did not manage to live life to the fullest, or they have some hormone problem as a man!
To all the mongers, go hard because that will secure our supply as we are the demand side, so go hard and keep on fucking, mongers!
Yikes. Based on a threshold of 35, things don't look good. Unless I am misreading the Robert Koch map, it appears that almost every club in NRW will be forced to close within the next week or so. They are all in regions above 35 right now.
I don't know the fine details of German geography, and I would welcome any suggestions for FKKs in lower incidence areas of NRW / Hesse. I don't have a car, so trains / taxis / walking are my modes of transportation.
Living Room and Rheingold in "Rhein Kreis Neuss" have an incidence of 23.2, but to my knowledge, Living Room never reopened.
Sharks in Darmstadt has an incidence of 18.1.
I might be stuck in Hesse for my FKK days.
Any other ideas? (And please don't suggest Switzerland or Austria. It has to be in NRW / Hesse.).Hello ShinyCrazy.
From this website
https://frankfurt.de/english/corona-information
it said
((If the seven-day incidence rateInternal Link exceeds 100, the nationwide emergency brakeExternal Link (as of 22.04. 2021) applies)).
So does this mean Sharks will not close until the case rate exceeds 100 ? Not 35 ?
Ohhhh bad news, I bought my ticket few days ago and visiting Sharks hopefully on 17 August, so I hope cases stay down. Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaase no more close.If it closes in Hessen, then you can always stretch a bit and take train to Zurich, but in the worst case scenario you got your right hand LOL!
ShinyCrazy
08-08-21, 15:20
Hello ShinyCrazy.
So does this mean Sharks will not close until the case rate exceeds 100 ? Not 35 ?No. If it exceeds 100, things get really bad: shops and restaurants close, etc. That is the national law that supersedes the Hesse law. The threshold for brothels is 35. The threshold for saunas is 50. From what I can tell, FKK clubs are treated as "brothels" not "saunas", but I'm not certain.
No. If it exceeds 100, things get really bad: shops and restaurants close, etc. That is the national law that supersedes the Hesse law. The threshold for brothels is 35. The threshold for saunas is 50. From what I can tell, FKK clubs are treated as "brothels" not "saunas", but I'm not certain.Thats really bad news, cases might go up very fast as happen in UK.
I hope Germany is defferent, my flight is on 17 August, hope Sharks will not close.
No. If it exceeds 100, things get really bad: shops and restaurants close, etc. That is the national law that supersedes the Hesse law. The threshold for brothels is 35. The threshold for saunas is 50. From what I can tell, FKK clubs are treated as "brothels" not "saunas", but I'm not certain.All FKKs and Sauna clubs are treated as "Brothels".
100 % sure.
But the level of 35 must be exceeded for a couple of days until brothels are closed.
Germany continues to harass and kill its own business sector.
Though almost 100 % of the risk groups have got the vaccine!
All FKKs and Sauna clubs are treated as "Brothels".
100 % sure.
But the level of 35 must be exceeded for a couple of days until brothels are closed.I just love that the government has a category for brothels. Be ever grateful for the Germans- you'd never see this in the US.
LionMan966
08-08-21, 15:37
Samya still open though and its been at over 35 for more than a week. Maybe it will close when it reaches 50 - probably next week. Although, I did read the following on an official government website regarding Corona in NRW - 'Due to the comparatively few severe courses of the disease, incidence level 3 is initially suspended until 19 August 2021'. This seems to suggest that level 3, which is triggered when cases are over 50, is suspended for the time being and therefore clubs will remain open?
All FKKs and Saunca clubs are treated as "Brothels".
100 % sure.
But the level of 35 must be exceeded for a couple of days until brothels are closed.
Germany continues to harass and kill its own business sector.
Though almost 100 % of the risk groups have got the vaccine!
All FKKs and Sauna clubs are treated as "Brothels".
100 % sure.
But the level of 35 must be exceeded for a couple of days until brothels are closed.
Germany continues to harass and kill its own business sector.
Though almost 100 % of the risk groups have got the vaccine!It seems they will revise the criteria on the 10th of August and it is expected they will include the number of hospitalizations in addition to the number of cases. It also seems that each Lander has its own policy on the closure / re-opening. However, Germany-based members may have more details on this.
I have a trip to Germany in September and I hope everything stays open. Fingers crossed.
ShinyCrazy
08-08-21, 16:56
Dusseldorf clubs are closed..Are you certain that they are closed? Their websites don't mention anything about being closed. I can't find any mention elsewhere online that Dolce Vita or Oceans is closed. Same thing with Cologne clubs, like Samya and Mondial and Babylon.
I am having a hard time finding solid info. Sounds like my trip starting 15 August will be a seat of the pants trip. May be forced to call the clubs each morning, then if they are closed start looking for a train back to Hesse. Here is a link to press releases for NRW. Their latest release says that even if they exceed 50, they are keeping everything at Level 2. That doesn't help FKK clubs since they are only open at Level 1. The last release was made on a Friday and implemented the next Monday. Maybe that is the policy? Might have to look for a press release this Friday.
Press releases for NRW:
https://www.mags.nrw/pressemitteilungen
Are you certain that they are closed? Their websites don't mention anything about being closed. I can't find any mention elsewhere online that Dolce Vita or Oceans is closed. Same thing with Cologne clubs, like Samya and Mondial and Babylon.
I am having a hard time finding solid info. Sounds like my trip starting 15 August will be a seat of the pants trip. May be forced to call the clubs each morning, then if they are closed start looking for a train back to Hesse. Here is a link to press releases for NRW. Their latest release says that even if they exceed 50, they are keeping everything at Level 2. That doesn't help FKK clubs since they are only open at Level 1. The last release was made on a Friday and implemented the next Monday. Maybe that is the policy? Might have to look for a press release this Friday.
Press releases for NRW:
https://www.mags.nrw/pressemitteilungenDolce Vita is bad on updating information its website. The "Live girls function" has showed the same 10 girls available for 2 weeks now.
The famous Domizil closed since August 1 due to Covid:
https://www.dasdomizil.eu/index.php?id=3
It seems they will revise the criteria on the 10th of August and it is expected they will include the number of hospitalizations in addition to the number of cases. It also seems that each Lander has its own policy on the closure / re-opening. However, Germany-based members may have more details on this.
I have a trip to Germany in September and I hope everything stays open. Fingers crossed.On the same boat!
LionMan966
08-08-21, 18:51
Same here, I'm also trying to find out as I'm going to NRW mid-week and panicking that the clubs won't be open.
I suggest you call the clubs rather than rely on the website to provide up to date info. I called some of the clubs today.
Dusseldorf.
Dolce Vita. I called them and there is no answer, so must be closed.
Oceans. They told me the restaurant and spa is open but the rooms are closed, so basically its closed.
Acapulco Gold. They are open because they are in Mettmann, however, cases are also above 35.
Receptionist said - 'We are open now, we don't know about Wednesday or another day, this is the situation in Germany, you call on the day you come'.
Cologne.
Samya / Mondial. They are both open right now and told me on the phone they don't know if they are open this week but best to call day before to find out. Currently at 47 and been over 35 for more than a week. Not sure what the exact rate is in Cologne when closure would happen (I guess 50?) but not looking good.
Frankfurt is back up plan if the above NRW clubs are shut. Currently under 35 in Frankfurt (only just though - 34) and Darmstadt (20).
Really hate this uncertainty because I just want to fuck and relax!
Are you certain that they are closed? Their websites don't mention anything about being closed. I can't find any mention elsewhere online that Dolce Vita or Oceans is closed. Same thing with Cologne clubs, like Samya and Mondial and Babylon.
I am having a hard time finding solid info. Sounds like my trip starting 15 August will be a seat of the pants trip. May be forced to call the clubs each morning, then if they are closed start looking for a train back to Hesse. Here is a link to press releases for NRW. Their latest release says that even if they exceed 50, they are keeping everything at Level 2. That doesn't help FKK clubs since they are only open at Level 1. The last release was made on a Friday and implemented the next Monday. Maybe that is the policy? Might have to look for a press release this Friday.
Press releases for NRW:
https://www.mags.nrw/pressemitteilungen
It seems they will revise the criteria on the 10th of August and it is expected they will include the number of hospitalizations in addition to the number of cases. It also seems that each Lander has its own policy on the closure / re-opening. However, Germany-based members may have more details on this.
I have a trip to Germany in September and I hope everything stays open. Fingers crossed.My friend in Dortmund says the same. Hospitalizations will be factored in going forward. Just need municipal, regional governments to make it official. All the more reason to promote vaccinations in order to keep hospital numbers low since infection numbers will inevitably keep going up before they fall quickly just as in UK, NL, and India. Netherlands reached 300 per 100 K per week and hospital cases never matched the increase. Same with UK. Now cases are down in both nations. I just got back from the Netherlands, the only restrictions were masks on public transport and nightclubs closed. Hoping Germany takes that example and follows suit.
I feel your pain but this was an easy situation to foresee. I said the following a few weeks ago in this thread:
"If you buy plane ticket and your hotel reservation weeks in advance to get a cheaper fare, you do run the risk that situation may be different by the date of outbound and return travels. How they may be different, and the exact amount of downside is not knowable with any precision. If you book a trans Atlantic flight a month ahead with the intent of attending fuck clubs, it may end up being a smooth and pleasurable experience or may be more hassle filled. No doubt the guys who do have a good experience will thump their chest and puff up and brag how great they are and how foolish are the others for not following their lead, but as always they minimize the role luck played. Some less fortunate guys may have a lousy experience even if they play by the book."
Same here, I'm also trying to find out as I'm going to NRW mid-week and panicking that the clubs won't be open.
I suggest you call the clubs rather than rely on the website to provide up to date info. I called some of the clubs today.
Dusseldorf.
Dolce Vita. I called them and there is no answer, so must be closed.
Oceans. They told me the restaurant and spa is open but the rooms are closed, so basically its closed.
Acapulco Gold. They are open because they are in Mettmann, however, cases are also above 35.
Receptionist said - 'We are open now, we don't know about Wednesday or another day, this is the situation in Germany, you call on the day you come'.
Cologne.
Samya / Mondial. They are both open right now and told me on the phone they don't know if they are open this week but best to call day before to find out. Currently at 47 and been over 35 for more than a week. Not sure what the exact rate is in Cologne when closure would happen (I guess 50?) but not looking good.
Frankfurt is back up plan if the above NRW clubs are shut. Currently under 35 in Frankfurt (only just though - 34) and Darmstadt (20).
Really hate this uncertainty because I just want to fuck and relax!I also called Dolce Vita, and nobody answered. It is closed.
At ACA Gold I have direct contact with a girl working there.
And ALL risk groups in Germany have received Vaccine!
Have such stupid regulations as in Germany ever been practiced anywhere?
I also called Dolce Vita, and nobody answered. It is closed.
At ACA Gold I have direct contact with a girl working there.
And ALL risk groups in Germany have received Vaccine!
Have such stupid regulations as in Germany ever been practiced anywhere?I feel a bit sorry for friends in De. Their restrictions have been some of the more aggressive in the world. Looking into their eyes in person as they updated me on their lives this past year reinforced that there is only so much people can endure, even the most German of the Germans.
However, and it is easy for me to say as I am only a visitor, some understanding would be prudent as the situations are constantly changing all over the globe. At one point, case numbers were heavily correlated to severity and health system load. With half the population now vaccinated, that is no longer a heavy correlation. It will take some time for authorities to adapt. If I was to make these decisions unilaterally, I would look primarily at the hospital burden and not reinforce heavy restrictions. However, people in positions of power who are responsible for society and the general populace cannot act as quickly. They have much more responsibility, not to mention that quick change and fast adaptation was never the German way.
But results do hold merit and the German way, albeit taxing on the people, has resulted in one of the better covid containment situations this past year. Considering their relatively free, western society and central position both geographically and economically, results speak volumes and the conservative / restriction-aggressive method has earned some weight. Not all societies benefit from geographic isolation and culturally uniform societies.
Point is, I am fairly confident that the Germans will benefit from the examples of the Netherlands and UK and incorporate the fact that in heavily vaccinated societies, when cases went up during the most recent surge, hospitals never became overwhelmed and case numbers quickly plummeted within a month's time without much loss of life.
Samya / Mondial. They are both open right now and told me on the phone they don't know if they are open this week but best to call day before to find out. Currently at 47 and been over 35 for more than a week. Not sure what the exact rate is in Cologne when closure would happen (I guess 50?) but not looking good.
Frankfurt is back up plan if the above NRW clubs are shut. Currently under 35 in Frankfurt (only just though - 34) and Darmstadt (20).
Really hate this uncertainty because I just want to fuck and relax!Interesting that samya and mondial are still open they are suppose to close on the 8th day when the incidence is greater than 35 7 days in a row. Look at it this way maybe they'll switch to sharks while their home clubs are closed.
Interesting that samya and mondial are still open they are suppose to close on the 8th day when the incidence is greater than 35 7 days in a row. Look at it this way maybe they'll switch to sharks while their home clubs are closed.Last Sunday Koln was at 25-ish. Guessing they haven't reached the 8th day yet. Rumblings of NRW administration Tuesday to discuss new threshold in order to factor hospital data with incidence. If they look at the entire picture, I think NRW clubs are good. Amsterdam did that while Dutch incidenz reached 300 and all they did was mandate nightclub closures. Masks aren't even required except in places like public transport and some others. Germany benefits from having maintained a good situation so now they can use data from other nations that already had higher incidence and looser rules. Hopefully they do the rational thing and stay the course while keeping an eye on hospital capacity.
ShinyCrazy
08-09-21, 01:16
Thanks for all of the updates and comments. It does look like Sharks (and Oase) may be the backup plan if NRW and downtown Frankfurt are closed for sex workers. And I agree that the girls may migrate to those clubs if the others are closed. That would help pricing if supply outstrips demand in those two Hesse mega clubs. Again, it appears this vacation will be decided on a day by day basis.
Same here, I'm also trying to find out as I'm going to NRW mid-week and panicking that the clubs won't be open.
I suggest you call the clubs rather than rely on the website to provide up to date info. I called some of the clubs today.
Dusseldorf.
Dolce Vita. I called them and there is no answer, so must be closed.
Oceans. They told me the restaurant and spa is open but the rooms are closed, so basically its closed.
Acapulco Gold. They are open because they are in Mettmann, however, cases are also above 35.
Receptionist said - 'We are open now, we don't know about Wednesday or another day, this is the situation in Germany, you call on the day you come'.
Cologne.No need to panic, just book the room with good WIFI option, bring your pc and you got your right hand LOL!
But talking real, then just go to Zurich if all FKK in Hessen get closed down.
I think it will be ok for awhile though, but maybe not for long.
I reckon, there is no way to get this covid thing over till we get group immune as vaccine won't stop the infection anyways!
My friend in Dortmund says the same. Hospitalizations will be factored in going forward. Just need municipal, regional governments to make it official. All the more reason to promote vaccinations in order to keep hospital numbers low since infection numbers will inevitably keep going up before they fall quickly just as in UK, NL, and India. Netherlands reached 300 per 100 K per week and hospital cases never matched the increase. Same with UK. Now cases are down in both nations. I just got back from the Netherlands, the only restrictions were masks on public transport and nightclubs closed. Hoping Germany takes that example and follows suit.Government just have to accept mongering is necessary essential for male human LOL!
No doubt the guys who do have a good experience will thump their chest and puff up and brag how great they are and how foolish are the others for not following their lead, but as always they minimize the role luck played. Some less fortunate guys may have a lousy experience even if they play by the book."Situation is Germany is good enough, not great, and certainly not back to normal. Guys okay with basic service will be just as happy. Guys expecting to max out 29 minutes of great service for 50 euro or 59 minutes for honeymoon sex for 100 euro will struggle.
For guys fortunate enough to have gone, luck has been on their side for about 8+ weeks now. If the situation worsens and clubs do close, then the unlucky will account for 1 instance versus 8 plus weeks and counting of significant "luck."
Luck Be a Lady tonight.
Thanks for all of the updates and comments. It does look like Sharks (and Oase) may be the backup plan if NRW and downtown Frankfurt are closed for sex workers. And I agree that the girls may migrate to those clubs if the others are closed. That would help pricing if supply outstrips demand in those two Hesse mega clubs. Again, it appears this vacation will be decided on a day by day basis.Girls start to worry in Germany about closing risk, but as long open, Switzerland is more expensive but not anymore higher level. At expensive Globe, some Romanians savages try to see or touch your dick, maybe trying to get business when they didn t get and they would not even be able to get all full inside their small pussy, like some low level girls at Finca or Bab. The leader, tall like model type but very average face and total lack of charm, really not worthing such expensive rate. Cleo Bern with HH 99 CHF with entry, foods and 30 mn in room, may worth better for rate. When my plans changed once again, I was too far from Sharks and with so many autobahns works south Freiburg and all along and with too average rental car to enjoy driving, so I drove to Globe easier and faster to reach, despite risks to drive in Switzerland. Despite great welcome and repeat with new Swiss fresh girl who worth Globe rate, but I regretted I should have driven more than 3 hours more to Sharks where I saw on my visits more elegant and attractive girls than Globe now casting, one with real charm and on my Globe Swiss level in bed, but for only 100/60 when I paid 260 for a bit more than 1 hour at Globe, at least my Swiss is very honest and Fritz on desk flexible. Lower rate and higher quality would have paid gas, when Sharks have higher level casting for me than on a Friday at Globe with 38 girls. More freshness and elegance at Sharks. I will compare with Wellcum. At on my climbing tour started yesterday. With cheap Gold and Prime where can sometimes find beauties, Samya, Sharks, enjoy Germany as long open. Beautiful Oase to relax and recover in beautiful garden with swimming pool, but not much worthing for now casting. Can also give a try to Palace, Atmos Hamburg, sauna club Venus in NRW. Still have to visit, for quite good rate 40/50 per 30 mn.
Interesting that samya and mondial are still open they are suppose to close on the 8th day when the incidence is greater than 35 7 days in a row. Look at it this way maybe they'll switch to sharks while their home clubs are closed.Mettmann has had inzidenz-zahlen above 35, three days in a row now (Sat 7, Sun 8 and Mon 9).
Kreis Mettmann (including the clubs Acapulco Gold and Magnum) would then close down clubs on Saturday, August 14 at the earliest?
Last Sunday Koln was at 25-ish. Guessing they haven't reached the 8th day yet. Not sure what your source is but according to the RKI it has been the following since last Sunday 37.4, 36.7, 44.2, 45.5, 44.1, 47.0, 46.4, 48.4, 49.6 for Koln.
Not sure what your source is but according to the RKI it has been the following since last Sunday 37.4, 36.7, 44.2, 45.5, 44.1, 47.0, 46.4, 48.4, 49.6 for Koln.Man, I can tell you are the type of guy who bring out stop watch in room at German FKK LOL!
Not sure what your source is but according to the RKI it has been the following since last Sunday 37.4, 36.7, 44.2, 45.5, 44.1, 47.0, 46.4, 48.4, 49.6 for Koln.I follow the tool from the RKI site:
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4
When I looked last Sunday / Monday I was surprised to see it lower than 30. Maybe I clicked the wrong district by accident.
If using the RKI tool also, how did you retroactively go back to see the incidenz from a week ago?
Not sure what your source is but according to the RKI it has been the following since last Sunday 37.4, 36.7, 44.2, 45.5, 44.1, 47.0, 46.4, 48.4, 49.6 for Koln.I think I found the answer for how Cologne is still open:
Found a regional NRW source that aligns with your numbers:
https://www.lzg.nrw.de/inf_schutz/corona_meldelage/index.html
I think the difference comes from this line on that site (translated):
For the incidence levels of the Corona Protection Ordinance (CoronaSchVO), the publication of the RKI at https://www.rki.de/inzidenzen is authoritative. The data there does not take into account cases that the health authorities transmit for previous reporting days and therefore deviate from our daily updated Corona reporting situation.Apparently the numbers you have are direct from NRW and incorporates corrected numbers that are later added. The RKI tool / site displays live numbers before adjustment.
Perhaps that is why the clubs are open beyond 7 days. Either way, hopefully tomorrow's meeting will change the thresholds / benchmarks for closure.
If it closes in Hessen, then you can always stretch a bit and take train to Zurich, but in the worst case scenario you got your right hand LOL!Calloused right hand is no substitute for beautiful hot stunner.
HammerTime96
08-09-21, 16:35
For guys fortunate enough to have gone, luck has been on their side for about 8+ weeks now. If the situation worsens and clubs do close, then the unlucky will account for 1 instance versus 8 plus weeks and counting of significant "luck."(emphasis mine).
Perhaps you should look at it as 8 relatively good weeks versus 60 weeks of lockdowns when Sharks was forced to close it's doors in March 2020?
Or perhaps 8 relatively good weeks out of 32, as currently we are in week 32 of this year? Mind you, there are still 20 more weeks to go this year and a lot of stuff can happen, and it sounds as if that after seeing the situation 'on the ground' in Germany with your own eyes, you seem to be slowly agreeing with me that clubs might close again at short notice. (see bold quotation above).
From the Palace thread:
This situation will likely persist for some time until stability returns to Germany and freedom of movement and doing business are restored in the eyes of the girls. Even more time will need to pass before word gets back to Eastern Europe in order for the girls to feel comfortable enough to make the journey back.I really fail to see how stability will return and 'Germany will move towards more freedom of movement and doing business' when the exact opposite is happening.
For example: there is currently a debate ongoing to limit the validity period of quick tests to 4-8 hours, instead of the 24 hours. How will this be favourable to reopen businesses and increase freedom of movement?
https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/hamburg/coronavirus/Debatte-ueber-Ungeimpfte-Corona-Tests-bald-deutlich-kuerzer-gueltig, schnelltest266. Html.
Where more countries like the UK, Holland and Denmark are loosening rules, Germany is actively going in the opposite direction after the government completely fucked up the vaccination program in the first place. Denmark basically argues ' by October 2021 everybody has had a chance to get vaccinated and the unvaxxed chose not to get vaccinated, so after this time there is no more need for any restrictions' and has published a clear timetable on how to achieve this. I yet have to see a similar proposal or even basic plan from the Germans who's government is still in a total chaos of restrictions upon restrictions, more micromanagement with "incident values" and quick test validity periods, corruption with masks tests and vaccines, and is being pushed by Covidiots and Coronazis like Karl Lauterbach.
This is the Danish timetable and how it could be done, but of course the Germans couldn't organise a binge-drinking party in a brewery: https://www.thelocal.dk/20210610/in-detail-how-denmarks-covid-19-restrictions-will-be-lifted-between-now-and-october/.
History has shown multiple times that Germany is like a huge inert bureaucratic oil tanker or freight train. Once the madness from politicians starts, there is no way to pull the emergency brake anymore and there are almost no self-correcting mechanisms in German society to avert a dictatorship. Citizens blindly follow the politicians, journalists blindly follow the politicians, the judicial system blindly follows the politicians and the police blindly follows the politicians. "Orders are orders."
Calloused right hand is no substitute for beautiful hot stunner.Coconut butter makes for a better self love lubricant and takes care of the callous hand problem.
Apparently the numbers you have are direct from NRW and incorporates corrected numbers that are later added. The RKI tool / site displays live numbers before adjustment.
Perhaps that is why the clubs are open beyond 7 days. Either way, hopefully tomorrow's meeting will change the thresholds / benchmarks for closure.Nope my numbers are from the RKI https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Daten/Fallzahlen_Inzidenz_aktualisiert.html;jsessionid=BB64E5875409FA4CBE74997BD424A643.internet091?nn=13490888 you can check the spreadsheet. I guess because the rki "takes into account subsequent submissions"
I guess if you go by the koeln's website https://www.koeln.de/koeln/nachrichten/lokales/coronavirus-in-koeln-der-aktuelle-stand_1144487.html the count down started on 8/3 so it should close tomorrow or wed.
Nope my numbers are from the RKI https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Daten/Fallzahlen_Inzidenz_aktualisiert.html;jsessionid=BB64E5875409FA4CBE74997BD424A643.internet091?nn=13490888 you can check the spreadsheet. I guess because the rki "takes into account subsequent submissions"
I guess if you go by the koeln's website https://www.koeln.de/koeln/nachrichten/lokales/coronavirus-in-koeln-der-aktuelle-stand_1144487.html the count down started on 8/3 so it should close tomorrow or wed.Right. Subsequent submissions is what I am getting at. I was looking at the live RKI data as they were getting it last Sunday and Monday and the numbers were not the same as they are today. The NRW site states that the RKI data may not match their numbers until subsequent cases are added. Possible lag in weekend reporting? It would make sense that RKI goes back to add the retroactive cases as the NRW region reports it to them later. I have no doubt that the numbers you listed from previous days have been properly amended. Just suggesting that perhaps the reason the clubs were not closed on exactly day 7 or 8 was because of a possible lag in data reporting.
Then again, also possible that in my 6 day clubbing euphoria that I just accidently misread or clicked on the wrong district.
Looking at the spreadsheet you linked, what's odd is that Dusseldorf clubs were closed on 27. July, exactly on day 5 of incidence above 35. Not sure how Koln made it to day 13 when their numbers were above 35 since 28. July. I specifically remember looking at Koln data on 29. July (my first day of arrival and learning that Dusseldorf was closed) and saw that RKI site listed Koln incidence at 34. X and thinking, that if it crossed the threshold, I had enough days to get to Koln before any closures. Data lag is the only thing I can come up as to why the numbers have consistently varied. Then again, Day 13 of high incidence in Koln, much longer than can be explained by data lag.
Anyway, hope this is discussion is a nonfactor and threshold criteria are changed in a day or 2. I'm not even sure how true the rumblings of NRW meetings are.
Calloused right hand is no substitute for beautiful hot stunner.Well you may not have too much of choices if you fly to Germany now and FKK are closed by fed LOL!
But no worry comrade, there is a place called Globe Zurich LOL! If you have money, Switzerland historically is a handy tool during difficult time like during the war, and during the pandemic like now, but if you have money, Swiss are very capitalistic LOL!
There is news that EU to potentially put restrictions on Americans next week. Hopefully, this is not true.
There is news that EU to potentially put restrictions on Americans next week. Hopefully, this is not true.You go, you may get your dick sucked and fucked for 50 euro per 30 min.
Or.
You go, you may end up in hotel room making good use of hotel WIFI that you pay or included and make good use of your right hand in Germany LOL!
Or.
You stay home and make good use of your right hand and WIFI monthly fee.
It will be one of the above and it is your choice LOL!
Unless you live in close enough nations or you are so desperate that you may attack something or someone, I would stay home!
Calloused right hand is no substitute for beautiful hot stunner.On Friday I visited Globe because closer than Sharks I enjoyed, and wanted to repeat with my Swiss who did welcome me and she was just perfect, even telling she was faster to make up than me to shower and had to wait for me. After our confirmation when discovery was too fast when club was closing, I tried to find another attractive among 35 girls for 6 hours, but could never find, mostly because of average looks, or girls with no need to repeat like German Lana ex Bruggen, cute but typical German prostitute with lack of chic and charm, or 2 because of behavior. The most I looked to find one, seeing what happened in club, the most I lost desire. Same than I told a guy I often met at Bruggen, on my last Sharks visit on previous Friday, watching porn is efficient for me to kill my desire. When I see such vulgar fake sex, same than vulgarity I saw at Globe, then no desire, best treatment versus desire, when elegance, charm and good manners excite me and wake up my desire, even when I discover on late night and didn't sleep on previous night. I was happy to find a bit of charm at 1. 30 am at Sharks and Balkanians don t go for this. For few who want sex, when most only drink, they are more excited by porn or prostitutes images than by elegance. So I don t worry even they come 50.
There is news that EU to potentially put restrictions on Americans next week. Hopefully, this is not true.German election is next month. Do they have any anti-lockdowns and pro-prostitutions (essentially pro-freedom) party or candidates who might support what we mongers want?
According to the link: I guess if you go by the koeln's website https://www.koeln.de/koeln/nachrichten/lokales/coronavirus-in-koeln-der-aktuelle-stand_1144487.html.
They will go in phase 2 on Thursday (https://www.koeln.de/koeln/nachrichten/lokales/das-muesst-ihr-zur-maskenpflicht-und-zu-coronaregeln-in-nrw-und-koeln-wissen_1166272.html#Stufe2).
Thanks Palcon, very interesting website.
It seems brothels are closed on phase 2 (see Freizseit) as opposed in phase 1.
Will it be only for the city of Koeln, or also its surroundings?
There is news that EU to potentially put restrictions on Americans next week. Hopefully, this is not true.EU Will Not Ban the Entry for Us Travellers, Official Says.
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/eu-will-not-ban-the-entry-for-us-travellers-official-says/
Thanks for all of the updates and comments. It does look like Sharks (and Oase) may be the backup plan if NRW and downtown Frankfurt are closed for sex workers. And I agree that the girls may migrate to those clubs if the others are closed. That would help pricing if supply outstrips demand in those two Hesse mega clubs. Again, it appears this vacation will be decided on a day by day basis.
https://frankfurt.de/english/corona-information
((In Frankfurt am Main, the number of cases has been below 35 infections per 100,000 residents and week for five consecutive days since Monday, 9 August 2021.
Therefore, the "Sixth General Decree of the City of Frankfurt am Main to combat the further spread of novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) in the city area from 22.07. 2021" has been lifted: Suspension (valid since 10. August 2021)
The Hessian Ordinance on protection against risks of infection with the coronavirus (CoSchuV) of 22 July 2021 applies.PP ))
I think this is good news.
German election is next month. Do they have any anti-lockdowns and pro-prostitutions (essentially pro-freedom) party or candidates who might support what we mongers want?Campaigning for prostitution and for opposing lockdowns in a country where prostitution is legal and lockdowns are no longer enforced is absolutely genius!
Campaigning for prostitution and for opposing lockdowns in a country where prostitution is legal and lockdowns are no longer enforced is absolutely genius!LOL some people (eg you) think one move at a time, and some people (eg me) think multiple moves at a time in chess. Any smart monger (or any man with a dick and some libido, as well as the girls / guys who know how to make money using their body and some brain) would support a pro-freedom party which will not only keep prostitution open without any fear of repetitive useless lockdowns, but will also get rid of stupid condom laws, zoning laws etc. Not so genius though if you prefer CBJ or fucking your same old fugly wife for rest of your life haha.
Now, anyone knows of such a pro-freedom party in Germany?
Campaigning for prostitution and for opposing lockdowns in a country where prostitution is legal and lockdowns are no longer enforced is absolutely genius!It is good that you kindly remind him, but some people can read or write, but do not register, oh he understand, but it is not registering, you know some STD do that to ya LOL!
EU Will Not Ban the Entry for Us Travellers, Official Says.
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/eu-will-not-ban-the-entry-for-us-travellers-official-says/Official say a lot of things LOL! If there is one thing history taught us is that never trust fed, officials, bureaucrat or anything along the line, and put prostitutes in FKK on there too LOL! You got to be bicycle loving self claim French Casanova wannabe in brothel to trust and innocently believe in what prostitutes in FKK have to say LOL!
ShinyCrazy
08-11-21, 00:27
Ok, since I was forced by the pending closures to redirect my trip from NRW to Hesse, I'm focusing on the greater Frankfurt area. I know that Sharks is the top club currently. Out of nostalgia, I plan to visit Oase at least one sunny day. What else should I try?
I've been disappointed with Palace with the cold sex robots. Never tried Mainhattan. Is that worth trying right now? Other places I haven't tried yet:
Dietzenbach (still closed apparently), World (apparently a tiny shadow of its former self), Bahama Club, Haus Rote Rose brothel (Darmstadt area), Treff 188- Eschborn, or for a laugh, the RLD Laufhauses.
What about FKK Rom? Is it a hidden gem, like FKK Sakura, which I reviewed on ISG pre-COVID? Great club with great girls. Or is a smoky dump with terrible food, like some low rent clubs?
I don't plan to spend every single day in Sharks. Where should I go in the vicinity of Hesse right now?
Wiesbaden? Mainz? Mannheim? Heidelberg?
Thanks everyone.
Ok, since I was forced by the pending closures to redirect my trip from NRW to Hesse, I'm focusing on the greater Frankfurt area. I know that Sharks is the top club currently. Out of nostalgia, I plan to visit Oase at least one sunny day. What else should I try?
I've been disappointed with Palace with the cold sex robots. Never tried Mainhattan. Is that worth trying right now? Other places I haven't tried yet:
Dietzenbach (still closed apparently), World (apparently a tiny shadow of its former self), Bahama Club, Haus Rote Rose brothel (Darmstadt area), Treff 188- Eschborn, or for a laugh, the RLD Laufhauses.
What about FKK Rom? Is it a hidden gem, like FKK Sakura, which I reviewed on ISG pre-COVID? Great club with great girls. Or is a smoky dump with terrible food, like some low rent clubs?
I don't plan to spend every single day in Sharks. Where should I go in the vicinity of Hesse right now?
Wiesbaden? Mainz? Mannheim? Heidelberg?
Thanks everyone.Oase to enjoy the garden and swimming pool from Thursday to Saturday. I would give a try to Palace after 7 pm from Thursday to Saturday, entry 50 until 16 August. Samya Koln is not so far from Frankfurt.
Ok, since I was forced by the pending closures to redirect my trip from NRW to Hesse, I'm focusing on the greater Frankfurt area. I know that Sharks is the top club currently. Out of nostalgia, I plan to visit Oase at least one sunny day. What else should I try?I am in the same situation as you, taking a two week trip that was going to be mostly in NRW with some time in Hesse, if it gets too bad then I will just cancel it but for now I am hoping that this is a small spike. There are places to try, in Giessn area there are three new clubs, Relax, 69 and Village.
And Dietenbach is opening tomorrow (Thursday). So it might be worth a tour around the region.
I've heard on German boards that the NRW government may change the rules as the number of cases is not as important as it was earlier due to the vaccines reducing hospitalisations and deaths. That may lead to the clubs being allowed to open at higher rates of incidence.
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