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Mr Ho
01-29-22, 03:06
What if all men thought like us? You know what that would mean? It would mean lines of men miles long waiting to get into FKKs. We must be grateful that there are so many men who go for so called normal relationships, LOL.The rapid decrease in birth rate in most developed nation indicate that some men are beginning to think about the reality of marriage LOL! It really is bad deal beside maybe first few years if lucky!

Our generation got internet where we can communicate openly about the truth as we are doing now, so some of us are less brain washed and aware of what really going on LOL!

Good marriage exist, but only 1% or something like that, rest are more like should be called patience contest LOL!

For me things changed when mongering industry begin to provide young stunner level girls and even so called walk in girls who do it for just summer holiday!

Escape Artist
01-29-22, 04:15
There are many men who I know that have attended FKKs. Experienced it and had an amazing time. But for whatever reason, made little effort to return.Why would so many men enjoy something so much but choose to not make it a recurring past time while others do? For the latter, it's likely a function of 1 of 2 things, perhaps both for some / many.

1st. Simple addiction to easy sex with perhaps some hypersexual tendency.

2nd. Lack of something else that has meaning and joy.

How likely is it that the first option makes up the majority of mongers?

Basically I'm erring on the side of idle hands (and hearts) make fretful hands.

DrPoon
01-29-22, 05:43
The rapid decrease in birth rate in most developed nation indicate that some men are beginning to think about the reality of marriage LOL! It really is bad deal beside maybe first few years if lucky!

Our generation got internet where we can communicate openly about the truth as we are doing now, so some of us are less brain washed and aware of what really going on LOL!

Good marriage exist, but only 1% or something like that, rest are more like should be called patience contest LOL!

For me things changed when mongering industry begin to provide young stunner level girls and even so called walk in girls who do it for just summer holiday!This will only self perpetuate. By the young guys choosing to be hobbyists and avoid the marriage trap, then this will leave young girls available with nothing to do except to do walk on summer provider work.

Gino02
01-29-22, 07:09
What if all men thought like us? You know what that would mean? It would mean lines of men miles long waiting to get into FKKs. We must be grateful that there are so many men who go for so called normal relationships, LOL.In the short term, there will be lot more single girls, meaning more girls for the FKKs. More girls will try to stay in shape to compete. And most importantly, less people cheating worldwide, and fucking honestly.

Big problem in the longer term will be that there will be less and less people born in the world, unless we become a society full of orphan kids, kinda like animals!

ZugVogel
01-29-22, 07:49
That's not what happened with normal lockers.

But even if it happened in normal lockers, the locker is locked, and if it's still stolen, it's a crime.If the key wasn't broken, the criminal would have used the key to open the locker. Now, who could have the key other than the victim? LOL.

Turgid
01-29-22, 16:14
Not just Americans. Most men just monger locally and occasionally. Or they mongered a few times in their life and stopped completely. So the idea of attending a sex club everyday for one or two weeks holds zero appeal.....I keep to myself at mongering destinations but in 2016 I met a fellow American at Sharks, he sat at the table I was at to eat with me. He was cool and we entered into conversation. I met him at Sharks the following year and we immediately started chatting. He visits Frankfurt annually for business and I met him also in 2018 and 2019. Our mongering styles were very different. He would be quite happy to sit, drink, chat and look around admiring the girls. He was in his 40's and would never be in predatory mode looking for the hottest stunner to bang. As a matter of fact he would choose one of the least good looking girls in the club, a girl I would not think of banging. This is weird considering that he visited the club only once in his annual trip and would only take one girl in that visit.

I posted this to say that we here who comment on ISG are the hardcore mongers. We are among the very few who constantly need to bang super hot girls on a regular basis. We are in a small minority even among mongers. The gent I referenced above was actually a lurker on ISG. I told him I was a lurker too, LOL.

DrPoon
01-29-22, 20:37
In the short term, there will be lot more single girls, meaning more girls for the FKKs. More girls will try to stay in shape to compete. And most importantly, less people cheating worldwide, and fucking honestly.

Big problem in the longer term will be that there will be less and less people born in the world, unless we become a society full of orphan kids, kinda like animals!There will be plenty of Mexicans and AfroAmericans born and they will take over the demographics.

Sirioja
01-29-22, 22:36
If the key wasn't broken, the criminal would have used the key to open the locker. Now, who could have the key other than the victim? LOL.Some lose brain seeing naked girls. Many times I found keys when I never lost mine in brothels. I never use small money locker, I was never stolen on my not far from 1000 visits. Only Swiss administration stole my life.

Mr Ho
01-30-22, 00:28
This will only self perpetuate. By the young guys choosing to be hobbyists and avoid the marriage trap, then this will leave young girls available with nothing to do except to do walk on summer provider work.I think financial insecurity and also the greed of these young girls wanting some 10000 euro bags and this and that life style brainwashed by media and sns make these girls walk into main bar of FKK for their summer holiday LOL!

They used to say, spring break and they think of some beach resort, modern young stunner do their spring break and have wild holiday in FKK with us mongers LOL!

ZugVogel
01-30-22, 06:36
Some lose brain seeing naked girls. Many times I found keys when I never lost mine in brothels. I never use small money locker, I was never stolen on my not far from 1000 visits. Only Swiss administration stole my life.I have never been stolen in sharks. But I've heard rumors of theft several times. At first I was skeptical, but since I've seen this story from different contributors here, on google maps and on blogs, it's likely that it's happening. Even if you are a regular, don't let your guard down. We have nothing to worry about if we are well-prepared.

Sirioja
01-30-22, 08:29
I keep to myself at mongering destinations but in 2016 I met a fellow American at Sharks, he sat at the table I was at to eat with me. He was cool and we entered into conversation. I met him at Sharks the following year and we immediately started chatting. He visits Frankfurt annually for business and I met him also in 2018 and 2019. Our mongering styles were very different. He would be quite happy to sit, drink, chat and look around admiring the girls. He was in his 40's and would never be in predatory mode looking for the hottest stunner to bang. As a matter of fact he would choose one of the least good looking girls in the club, a girl I would not think of banging. This is weird considering that he visited the club only once in his annual trip and would only take one girl in that visit.

I posted this to say that we here who comment on ISG are the hardcore mongers. We are among the very few who constantly need to bang super hot girls on a regular basis. We are in a small minority even among mongers. The gent I referenced above was actually a lurker on ISG. I told him I was a lurker too, LOL.No, we are all different. I visited 5 clubs on this week end. Despite ex Corali Sharks and model type Cameron, 0 room at Samya. Despite German Anabel and Dolli, 0 room at Bab. Few attractive looks at Magnum, but 0 room for vulgarity or lack of charm. I was so happy to find a 40 yo woman at Gold, my first ever 40 and much more interesting as woman and for sex than most of 20. I couldn't believe she is 40, I would be happy to return to her high GFE level. You nearly feel like at home.

PaulInZurich
01-30-22, 10:39
1st. Simple addiction to easy sex with perhaps some hypersexual tendency.

2nd. Lack of something else that has meaning and joy.When is it an addiction? I would argue it's a combination of money spent relative to wealth and time spent relative to free time available. If you spend 100 k per year but have 20 millions in the bank it's different than if you spend 50 k per year but earn 100 k. If you are retired and live close to a club and go the club a few times per week for 2-3 hours it's different than if you are still working but you spend all your weekends in the clubs or getting to the clubs. Most of these people will argue that they can stop anytime they want, but they are always back after a break of at most a few months.

PaulInZurich
01-30-22, 10:59
1st. Simple addiction to easy sex with perhaps some hypersexual tendency.
2nd. Lack of something else that has meaning and joy.There are as well the guys who keep looking for a "relationship" sometimes subconsciously. It's the guys who always go to the same WG, sometimes for years. It takes them a long time to realize that the WG was just playing the role that will maximize how much money she can extract from such a guy. Then they get jealous if they see the WG with another client. FKKs are not for emotional needs.

McAdonis
01-30-22, 16:16
Why would so many men enjoy something so much but choose to not make it a recurring past time while others do? For the latter, it's likely a function of 1 of 2 things, perhaps both for some / many.

1st. Simple addiction to easy sex with perhaps some hypersexual tendency.

2nd. Lack of something else that has meaning and joy.

How likely is it that the first option makes up the majority of mongers?Easy sex would be a WG in your immediate vicinity. Might be lower optics. Might be pricier. But it is the most convenient and easiest. And if we are talking about purely physical, biological needs, then some lotion and an Internet connection should be sufficient.

Not all ISGers are that hypersexual in the physical sense. Hypersexual would be to me "Quantity over Quality". Many hardcore mongers log a lot of zero pop, zero room days. Not even talking about going hard on day one, and needing a recuperation day. But someone who on a 7-9 day trip, deliberately keeps a slow pace, hoping to find their unicorn. If they are lucky, and find that wife for the trip, they will go in confident knowing that they have conserved all their ammunition (sperm, money) for her. If they are not fortunate to find their unicorn, then the last 1-2 days of their trip, they make a practical decision to lower the bar and settle and get some pops in before flying back home. For the "unlucky" scenario, that might look like two rooms from Day 1 to 7 and four rooms on Day 8 and Day 9. Not exactly hypersexual.

Hardcore mongers I would characterize as maximizers. There are two variations of maximize. First, is having a narrow optic spec. Common one might be someone who chases a Western European, Aryan, Germanic look, for instance someone who could have played the "hot girl" in some 1980's American teen movie. My ideal spec is just as rare as the aforementioned. And if I were to strictly adhere to my spec of slim, thin legs, big naturals, there would only be one WG in FKK land who meets that spec, perhaps two. But I do not like to pay entry and not room, so I have conditioned myself to expand the definition of doable. But even then, I do not think I ever classify 20 percent of the LU as doable. The other variation of the maximizer is the hardcore monger who never repeats. This is rarer amongst fly-ins, but these mongers could probably find 70-80 percent of the LU doable, but need to constantly log kilometers, rotate clubs to find new, fresh WGs.

But I think many casual mongers are happy with "good enough" and do not seek to maximize. There is zero curiosity about what better options might exist outside of their local area. Slightly overweight, age 35-45 WGs? No problem. They just go monger at the most convenient spot for them, get in, and get out. They may be even be fine repeating the same WG for months or years. These guys have zero need to read forums. They do not care that a club six hours away from them just reopened, or some club an ocean away just got some fresh Romies off the bus. They only care about the club or brothel closest to them.

McAdonis
01-30-22, 16:47
I posted this to say that we here who comment on ISG are the hardcore mongers. We are among the very few who constantly need to bang super hot girls on a regular basis. We are in a small minority even among mongers.I agree. I would add that our tastes do not really drive the market. Your read this forum and other FKK forums, the talk centers around WGs who are young, thin, no tattoos, no silicone, no botox face, DFK, GFE. I would say ISG skews more toward white-centric WGs than the other FKK forums.

Most casual mongers do not care about such things. Majority of the mongering activity in Germany happens in Laufhaus. For the younger guys this represents the cheapest option. For the married guys, this represents the quickie option during their lunch break and when running errands. These casual mongers are not morally or religiously opposed to sex, but I think many casual mongers just consider WGs dirty. Yes, there are LHs that exist that cater to AO, but most LHs are known for offering for giving listless, sanitized sex. At LHs, this is par for the course: clientele finishes in under 10 minutes, does not want DFK, does not want BBBJ, does not chat her ear off, may not even expect her to put her smartphone down during the sexual act!

With regards to optics, ISGers seem to be more demanding. And perhaps our tastes represent the fact that most of us are 40+. Millennials and Gen-Z are into different optics and have different fetishes. For one MILF porn is one of the most searched terms. Newer ones are step-sister or step-mom porn. If we look at what is popular on PornHub this month, not a lot of the stars I would characterize as "fresh". Three of the top thirty do not even show their face: https://www.pornhub.com/pornstars.

YyzTravel
01-30-22, 17:15
Some lose brain seeing naked girls. Many times I found keys when I never lost mine in brothels. I never use small money locker, I was never stolen on my not far from 1000 visits. Only Swiss administration stole my life.Speaking of. Where do you guys keep your money? I have never been to an FKK (first trip planned in April). Do you keep it on you in your robe? In the locker room? How do logistics like paying a bar tab work, etc? I have read back about 100 pages in the threads, so apologies if this has been covered before. 99% of all the conversation is about fucking women (which is should be). Any helpful logistics on how to operate in an FKK (outside of the fucking) would be greatly appreciated!

Sirioja
01-30-22, 18:44
I have never been stolen in sharks. But I've heard rumors of theft several times. At first I was skeptical, but since I've seen this story from different contributors here, on google maps and on blogs, it's likely that it's happening. Even if you are a regular, don't let your guard down. We have nothing to worry about if we are well-prepared.My meaning was if You don t lose your head nor key, you should not be stolen if you are able to control with girls. Some leave clubs forgetting their head. I only forgot about my money back from entry at Bruggen when I was welcome by some girls coming to me on desk while paying, but then desk girls ran after me in locker to give me back. I was threatened at Sharks, not by Balkanians, but never heard about thefts when cameras in locker. So many stories in this business. I only trust what I saw.

DaWong949
01-30-22, 19:03
Speaking of. Where do you guys keep your money? I have never been to an FKK (first trip planned in April). Do you keep it on you in your robe? In the locker room? How do logistics like paying a bar tab work, etc? I have read back about 100 pages in the threads, so apologies if this has been covered before. 99% of all the conversation is about fucking women (which is should be). Any helpful logistics on how to operate in an FKK (outside of the fucking) would be greatly appreciated!You have two lockers. The big one is for you to store your clothes, shores etc. The small one is for you keep your money, cell phone etc. I have been to FKK since 2015, never have any issues at any clubs.

Steve 9696
01-30-22, 19:04
Speaking of. Where do you guys keep your money? I have never been to an FKK (first trip planned in April). Do you keep it on you in your robe? In the locker room? How do logistics like paying a bar tab work, etc? I have read back about 100 pages in the threads, so apologies if this has been covered before. 99% of all the conversation is about fucking women (which is should be). Any helpful logistics on how to operate in an FKK (outside of the fucking) would be greatly appreciated!Here is my writeup on the basics. (I've written a private book on all the countries and venues and my best stories from each. This is just lifted from that.) Best of luck.

So what is this crazy FKK I speak of?

Imagine, if you will, a very large building -- perhaps a warehouse -- that has been lavishly outfitted inside with a men's paradise. Buffet, sauna, jacuzzi, massage, pool, bar, relaxation areas and attractive ladies galore. And oh, yeah, the ladies are naked. Did I mention they all want to fuck you? Use the onsite rooms for your carnal pleasures; then rinse and repeat -- as many times as you have stamina and money for!

The drill is pretty much the same at each FKK and, as you will see, it is designed as the perfect place to start your journey to a better life. You know on TV where the guy gets caught with perfume on his clothes or lipstick on his collar? That is never going to happen here because the Germans have engineered the perfect experience -- with virtually guaranteed no trace evidence left behind. Here's how it goes (I'll use Sharks in Frankfurt, my favorite, to describe it):

When you enter the FKK, you pay your entry fee ($90-100 USD at nice ones) which entitles you to the full use of the facility and its amenities (sauna, buffet, lounges, non-alcoholic drinks). Alcoholic drinks, massages, and girls' services are extra. You are issued a towel, robe, flip flops, and a wristband with a key and they point you to the locker room. Here you get out of your street clothes, take a shower and suit up in a towel or robe and head into the club. Bring your wallet and condoms with you, as you will put these in a separate small locker when you enter. (This is important, because after a session you need to pay the girl and you don't want to have to go back to the locker room to do this.) Prepare to be amazed!

Sharks is huge, with 50 foot ceilings and there are girls everywhere. There is a big central bar where you can get your favorite cocktail or beer and start figuring out who tickles your fancy. If it's your first time here, you will be overwhelmed with selection. Blondes, brunettes, big fake tits, A cups, short, tall, skinny, thick. It's all here -- and they are all pretty in their own way. Just settle in and enjoy the spectacle. Generally you will have a few thoughts in this order:

This is fucking amazing!

Surely this can't be legal!

This must be what heaven is like if god knew what the fuck he was doing!

You will probably be approached by one or more girls who want you to go to the room with you. Almost 100% of the time you should NOT go with these girls. They tend to be the ones needing business or planning to shark you for big money. You are better off seeking out the girl you want if you are a newbie.

The general drill is to make the most of your entry fee and spend as much time at the FKK as humanly possible. Find a girl, negotiate the fee / services (generally 50-100 E / half hour) and head to the room. Do your thing. Now, comes the hardest part -- relax and recharge. You can try to find a quiet corner, but invariably you will be assaulted by various girls wanting you to go. Hold out. Go to the buffet, sauna, get a massage. Recharge. Go again. Rinse and repeat until you can go no more! It is also possible to leave the club and come back the same day -- just make sure to tell them you are returning.

Now bear in mind that FKK can vary widely in the awesomeness of the facility and / or girls. So what I describe primarily relates to the biggest and best in and around Frankfurt. Everywhere else may be a shade (or more!) less awesome in the food or the facilities or the girls; but the idea is generally the same.

Smoke Light
01-30-22, 19:41
Speaking of. Where do you guys keep your money? I have never been to an FKK (first trip planned in April). Do you keep it on you in your robe? In the locker room? How do logistics like paying a bar tab work, etc? I have read back about 100 pages in the threads, so apologies if this has been covered before. 99% of all the conversation is about fucking women (which is should be). Any helpful logistics on how to operate in an FKK (outside of the fucking) would be greatly appreciated!Where do you guys keep your money?

Short answer: in the main locker. When you come in, you undress and change into a robe, organize your locker. Shoes, jeans, shorts, underwear. Your bag or backpack, condoms, mouth wash, perfume, tooth brush, anything else you consider having with you. Imagine how you want to organize your locker before you go to the club. Then do it. Once your locker is in good shape, store your wallet in an easy to reach manner because you'll need it after each room. I recommend to keep your main cash reserve in a safe of your hotel room. Not all hotels have a safe, in such case bring it with you and store it in your locker, but separate from your wallet. Pre-calculate how much should you have in your wallet. Add price of entry, base price of the number of sessions you will attempt, add 50 euro on top of each basic session, add more if you need extras, like anal. Then multiply everything by two, because IMHO you should never have to stress yourself by thinking you may run out of cash.

Most money stolen reported on ISG fall into the category of hearsay cases, like "I've heard." Because such cases are quite rare. Are money stolen from lockers? Yes, of course. However, it happens when people get drunk and lose control. Some get distracted because a girl asks for some extra, they rush to the locker in the middle of the session, get the money and forget to lock the locker. Sometimes people get distracted in the locker room when they are with friends. Remember to lock your locker before you go to shower or anywhere else, like to a mirror to comb your hair.

Another situation to watch out for when you take off your robe and go to a shower, you may hang your key on a hook and forget your key there, especially if you are in a hurry to be back in the main area of the club. So any time you ars rushed, remember not to lose control of your locker key.

If you want to be super vigilant, most thieves in gym locker rooms in the US operate as a team. One guy can strike a conversation with a potential victim, another goes to open his locker. So if you feel like something is not right when somebody is speaking with you, tell them sorry, I will be right back, and go check your locker. This is extraordinary, has never happened to me. In 2021 I observed a guy reporting to the front desk that all his money was stolen from his locker. I don't want to name the club. But the guy was on drugs, not thinking straight. He was at the club with a bunch his friends, 4 or 5 of them. The mgmt refused to help him. They said: we are not responsible for your personal belongings, as posted everywhere. Had he not been on drugs or drunk, I am sure the mgmt would be more responsive. I don't think it's a good idea to drink too much in a FKK club.

Do you keep the money on you in your robe?

No. Never. This is the worst idea. Very easy to lose. Very easy to forget when you dress and ready to go home. Someone (even a girl) could steal that money from you without you noticing. Max 20 euro if you want to pay for a drink at the bar. Remember to check the robe pockets carefully before you leave the club.

In the locker room?

Yes, as I already described. At the same time, bigger clubs have small locker rooms for your wallet in main areas of the club. Again, very easy to forget your belongings there when you leave. I use small lockers only for my condoms, small travel-size bottle of baby oil in case when I need a hand job, and maybe a travel-size mouthwash, if you want to disinfect after DATY while staying in the room with your lady of choice.

How do logistics like paying a bar tab work, etc?

As I said, only very small amount of cash in your pocket, otherwise a high chance to lose the money in your pockets.

Sirioja
01-30-22, 19:45
Speaking of. Where do you guys keep your money? I have never been to an FKK (first trip planned in April). Do you keep it on you in your robe? In the locker room? How do logistics like paying a bar tab work, etc? I have read back about 100 pages in the threads, so apologies if this has been covered before. 99% of all the conversation is about fucking women (which is should be). Any helpful logistics on how to operate in an FKK (outside of the fucking) would be greatly appreciated!Keep your money in your locker, check well closed. Except at Aphrodisia, Amesia or Cleo, never pay before room, when I heard some girls ask now, but I was never asked. I don't, because grocery is killing desire for me, but if you are not fully self confident, ask girls about services and rate before going to room when some may try to fuck a newbie. You just have to understand You should get from what you are. Look how the girl is looking at you and speaking to You, not always truth but give information about what can happen, even I had few great rooms after a bad start for chatting or even when starting in room. You pay entry when You arrive and your alcohol on bar or when You leave, registered on your key. Don t lose your head nor key and enjoy easy life, even I keep on thinking outside normal women are so much more interesting. I would never advice brothels to anybody and I never did. Kind of fast food sex but not high gastronomy with women. Mostly low level sex, only very few are pretty enough and interesting according to my Western European standard, too picky as say girls.

Turgid
01-30-22, 20:11
......With regards to optics, ISGers seem to be more demanding. And perhaps our tastes represent the fact that most of us are 40+. Millennials and Gen-Z are into different optics and have different fetishes. For one MILF porn is one of the most searched terms. Newer ones are step-sister or step-mom porn. If we look at what is popular on PornHub this month, not a lot of the stars I would characterize as "fresh". Three of the top thirty do not even show their face: https://www.pornhub.com/pornstars.Wow, Stormy Daniels still there.

Sirioja
01-30-22, 20:39
I agree. I would add that our tastes do not really drive the market. Your read this forum and other FKK forums, the talk centers around WGs who are young, thin, no tattoos, no silicone, no botox face, DFK, GFE. I would say ISG skews more toward white-centric WGs than the other FKK forums.

Most casual mongers do not care about such things. Majority of the mongering activity in Germany happens in Laufhaus. For the younger guys this represents the cheapest option. For the married guys, this represents the quickie option during their lunch break and when running errands. These casual mongers are not morally or religiously opposed to sex, but I think many casual mongers just consider WGs dirty. Yes, there are LHs that exist that cater to AO, but most LHs are known for offering for giving listless, sanitized sex. At LHs, this is par for the course: clientele finishes in under 10 minutes, does not want DFK, does not want BBBJ, does not chat her ear off, may not even expect her to put her smartphone down during the sexual act!

With regards to optics, ISGers seem to be more demanding. And perhaps our tastes represent the fact that most of us are 40+. Millennials and Gen-Z are into different optics and have different fetishes. For one MILF porn is one of the most searched terms. Newer ones are step-sister or step-mom porn. If we look at what is popular on PornHub this month, not a lot of the stars I would characterize as "fresh"..When I was often disappointed by level of looks when I started on 2013 compare to my Russian escorts, but I learned to find mostly elegant Romanian beauties for my love in bed sex and for sure, covid breaks made me become more and more demanding about freshness and image, but I work hard to find. On this week end, I only found on my fifth club on my NRW tour, after 0 at Samya, Bab and Magnum. I hate to waste my money for average or just emptying my balls. I like to pay only to dream.

Sirioja
01-30-22, 21:11
There are as well the guys who keep looking for a "relationship" sometimes subconsciously. It's the guys who always go to the same WG, sometimes for years. It takes them a long time to realize that the WG was just playing the role that will maximize how much money she can extract from such a guy. Then they get jealous if they see the WG with another client. FKKs are not for emotional needs.We must be so different when sex without emotions is total waste of interest and money for me when I'm really not into porn fantasy. I even love when some girls are proud thinking I'm in love, maybe why some turned so mad when I stopped when they don't react same with others who stop or don't repeat. I never asked any to meet outside, I avoided with some, I don't need more than in clubs and I only like to pay to dream, not just to empty my balls. When some sleep, some have so much more time for life. From Thursday 6 am to this Sunday after Garmisch-Partenkirchen Kandahar women ski Worldcup, I almost didn't sleep on my NRW 5 clubs tour and only found 2 attractive on fifth. Eli would be one of the prettiest at Globe with her virgin milky skin look but even great social time but low level in bed despite coming from private in Bern kanton. For elegance, face and GFE level like at home, 40 yo Nikol would be a first choice at Globe when I didn't meet so many on her true GFE level. When Rosa Samya was one of my best BJ, never had so good at Globe and she is unique cute for her naturals, but when she didn't recognize me after 1 year of covid, not anymore interesting for me when I advice her to all guys asking me for a good girl, all thanking me and she doesn't understand about me. Not interesting, not kissing, no money. I could add for almost all silicon = no money, except few exceptions but not often interesting girls with mind in plastic. I want virgin looks to dream about women. I let porn to others, I don't need.

McAdonis
01-30-22, 21:59
Wow, Stormy Daniels still there.Those top four positions rotate at random for me, each time I refresh the page. Stormy has been trending upward (presumably since last month), but she is actually 552nd most popular this month.

Top star this month is Lana Rhoades, starting on row two.

Most of Pornhub's traffic comes from USA. And just going to assume that this is the age 12-25 demographic. My guess is those rankings are driven by them: https://kafkadesk.org/2020/01/30/poland-has-one-of-the-highest-daily-traffic-to-pornhub/.

Now for more niche terms like "BBW", even a smaller country like Ghana shoots to the top: https://www.mynewsgh.com/pornhub-statistics-ghana-nigeria-lead-world-in-bbw-search-on-no-1-porn-site/.

Mr Ho
01-31-22, 00:22
Where do you guys keep your money?

Short answer: in the main locker. When you come in, you undress and change into a robe, organize your locker. Shoes, jeans, shorts, underwear. Your bag or backpack, condoms, mouth wash, perfume, tooth brush, anything else you consider having with you. Imagine how you want to organize your locker before you go to the club. Then do it. Once your locker is in good shape, store your wallet in an easy to reach manner because you'll need it after each room. I recommend to keep your main cash reserve in a safe of your hotel room. Not all hotels have a safe, in such case bring it with you and store it in your locker, but separate from your wallet. Pre-calculate how much should you have in your wallet. Add price of entry, base price of the number of sessions you will attempt, add 50 euro on top of each basic session, add more if you need extras, like anal. Then multiply everything by two, because IMHO you should never have to stress yourself by thinking you may run out of cash.

Most money stolen reported on ISG fall into the category of hearsay cases, like "I've heard." Because such cases are quite rare. Are money stolen from lockers? Yes, of course. However, it happens when people get drunk and lose control. Some get distracted because a girl asks for some extra, they rush to the locker in the middle of the session, get the money and forget to lock the locker. Sometimes people get distracted in the locker room when they are with friends. Remember to lock your locker before you go to shower or anywhere else, like to a mirror to comb your hair.

Another situation to watch out for when you take off your robe and go to a shower, you may hang your key on a hook and forget your key there, especially if you are in a hurry to be back in the main area of the club. So any time you ars rushed, remember not to lose control of your locker key..Man, you could be good candidate for writing web page instructions for FKK clubs LOL!

Smoke Light
01-31-22, 04:04
Man, you could be good candidate for writing web page instructions for FKK clubs LOL!Only returning a favor. My contributions are incomparably small to match yours, dear colleague Mr Ho. Thank you for your trust in me LOL.

The Cane
01-31-22, 11:32
Hardcore mongers I would characterize as maximizers. There are two variations of maximize. First, is having a narrow optic spec. Common one might be someone who chases a Western European, Aryan, Germanic look, for instance someone who could have played the "hot girl" in some 1980's American teen movie. My ideal spec is just as rare as the aforementioned. And if I were to strictly adhere to my spec of slim, thin legs, big naturals, there would only be one WG in FKK land who meets that spec, perhaps two. But I do not like to pay entry and not room, so I have conditioned myself to expand the definition of doable. But even then, I do not think I ever classify 20 percent of the LU as doable.Me, me, me! I slightly resemble these remarks. LOLOLOL! Mongers hardcore!

Sirioja
01-31-22, 12:11
We must be so different when sex without emotions is total waste of interest and money for me when I'm really not into porn fantasy. I even love when some girls are proud thinking I'm in love, maybe why some turned so mad when I stopped when they don't react same with others who stop or don't repeat. I never asked any to meet outside, I avoided with some, I don't need more than in clubs and I only like to pay to dream, not just to empty my balls. When some sleep, some have so much more time for life. From Thursday 6 am to this Sunday after Garmisch-Partenkirchen Kandahar women ski Worldcup, I almost didn't sleep on my NRW 5 clubs tour and only found 2 attractive on fifth. Eli would be one of the prettiest at Globe with her virgin milky skin look but even great social time but low level in bed despite coming from private in Bern kanton. For elegance, face and GFE level like at home, 40 yo Nikol would be a first choice at Globe when I didn't meet so many on her true GFE level. When Rosa Samya was one of my best BJ, never had so good at Globe and she is unique cute for her naturals, but when she didn't recognize me after 1 year of covid, not anymore interesting for me when I advice her to all guys asking me for a good girl, all thanking me and she doesn't understand about me. Not interesting, not kissing, no money. I could add for almost all silicon = no money, except few exceptions but not often interesting girls with mind in plastic. I want virgin looks to dream about women. I let porn to others, I don't need.I also love when girls tell: You do this with other girls? I don't want you go with other girls, playing jealous. I remember Globe busy superstar Kate who looked all what I did at Globe, even she was busy, telling: You found another girlfriend? Jealous about Larissa on 2016 I was so happy to find again 2 years after World in Hessen. Emotions, chicken skin, hard dark nipples, hard red clit, cyprine, tears and jealousy are so much more interesting than lazy laying on back and emptying balls, or playing grocer, but different levels to play, even with same girl.

McAdonis
01-31-22, 13:06
When is it an addiction? I would argue it's a combination of money spent relative to wealth and time spent relative to free time available. If you spend 100 k per year but have 20 millions in the bank it's different than if you spend 50 k per year but earn 100 k. If you are retired and live close to a club and go the club a few times per week for 2-3 hours it's different than if you are still working but you spend all your weekends in the clubs or getting to the clubs. Most of these people will argue that they can stop anytime they want, but they are always back after a break of at most a few months.Agree 100 percent. I would add posting, reading forums, and perusing escort ads also takes up a significant amount of time, and thus should be calculated as part of the "hobby work week". These could be considered hypersexual activities that EA previously alluded to, although not in the physical sense.

Like you said, all this is fine if someone is retired and has all the time in the world. But if one is working full-time, all those hours spent on the hobby negatively impact other aspects of life. Performance at work. Looking haggard and unkempt. Not sleeping. Not cleaning their house. Not being socially connected to anyone. If someone is predisposed to mental health issues, either by heredity or upbringing, then sleep and a social support system is critical to remaining at least somewhat tethered to reality. And if one does not have a firm grip on reality, reports lack credibility.

Turgid
01-31-22, 15:29
....Now for more niche terms like "BBW", even a smaller country like Ghana shoots to the top: https://www.mynewsgh.com/pornhub-statistics-ghana-nigeria-lead-world-in-bbw-search-on-no-1-porn-site/.Its well known that black men love them some BBW. All the top countries are African or countries with a significant black population.

Canary
01-31-22, 16:22
Thinking of making the short journey to Germany in a few weeks as the pandemic is looking to begin to decline.

I'm very interested if anyone could give me a current definitive list of the Clubs which are currently open or forced because of local government health regulations to close?

Particularly interested in a two hour travel radius from Frankfurt although interested in other areas too.

Thanks.

Sirioja
01-31-22, 20:19
Thinking of making the short journey to Germany in a few weeks as the pandemic is looking to begin to decline.

I'm very interested if anyone could give me a current definitive list of the Clubs which are currently open or forced because of local government health regulations to close?

Particularly interested in a two hour travel radius from Frankfurt although interested in other areas too.

Thanks.Whole Hessen is closed now. Some girls in apartment. Some moved to NRW or 6.

Smoke Light
01-31-22, 21:56
Thinking of making the short journey to Germany in a few weeks as the pandemic is looking to begin to decline.

I'm very interested if anyone could give me a current definitive list of the Clubs which are currently open or forced because of local government health regulations to close?

Particularly interested in a two hour travel radius from Frankfurt although interested in other areas too.

Thanks.Looks like Samya is the stronghold of all FKKs right now. Reinforced by girls from Hesse, which is closed. I am chatting with Samya girls. Friday and Saturday 50 to 80 women, awesome LU between 18:00 and 20:00, even more women later, but also getting really crowded later, waiting times for keys, dancing, public sex in kino. Wednesday and Thursday pretty good LU, too. Monday and Tuesday a little slow. Dreamland.

Pistons
02-01-22, 00:21
Those top four positions rotate at random for me, each time I refresh the page. Stormy has been trending upward (presumably since last month), but she is actually 552nd most popular this month.

Top star this month is Lana Rhoades, starting on row two.

Most of Pornhub's traffic comes from USA. And just going to assume that this is the age 12-25 demographic. My guess is those rankings are driven by them: https://kafkadesk.org/2020/01/30/poland-has-one-of-the-highest-daily-traffic-to-pornhub/.

Now for more niche terms like "BBW", even a smaller country like Ghana shoots to the top: https://www.mynewsgh.com/pornhub-statistics-ghana-nigeria-lead-world-in-bbw-search-on-no-1-porn-site/.More interesting here is that Sasha Grey is top pornstar to be searched for in Poland several years after she quit. Due to her Twitch channel I bet.

And that Indias pornhub traffic plummeted for some reason. Any idea why?

Pistons
02-01-22, 00:25
I do wonder if the BBW fetishes comes from them having too much food, or too little food, or too crappy food. USA and the UK are also high up on that list, and they have a lot of crappy diet also.

Sirioja
02-01-22, 05:35
Looks like Samya is the stronghold of all FKKs right now. Reinforced by girls from Hesse, which is closed. I am chatting with Samya girls. Friday and Saturday 50 to 80 women, awesome LU between 18:00 and 20:00, even more women later, but also getting really crowded later, waiting times for keys, dancing, public sex in kino. Wednesday and Thursday pretty good LU, too. Monday and Tuesday a little slow. Dreamland.Did you visit? Not best casting on this Thursday evening / night and quite empty. Only ex Corali Sharks noticed from closed Hessen and a ex Globe German girl on bar. Gold was more interesting on my Saturday afternoon visit, when Samya is not on top since I would say around 8 December.

Pistons
02-01-22, 06:57
Prostitution is a good thing.

Look here at where Romania and Thailand is on this internet speed list:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds

I have a feeling this is due to sex. And of course sex scams, but mainly because of sex. If it had been due to scams as well, then Nigeria and Russia would have been up there too.

Sosa23
02-01-22, 21:31
Gentlemen,

I am planning a trip in the April / May 2022 timeframe. I understand that Orthodox Easter (this year Sunday, April 24) has a major impact on LU. Assuming clubs are reopened by April, what dates should be avoided? Thanks in advance for any advice.

Sirioja
02-01-22, 22:17
Gentlemen,

I am planning a trip in the April / May 2022 timeframe. I understand that Orthodox Easter (this year Sunday, April 24) has a major impact on LU. Assuming clubs are reopened by April, what dates should be avoided? Thanks in advance for any advice.Few days before and at least 1 week after. Not sure Hessen will reopen.

DrPoon
02-01-22, 22:19
Looks like Samya is the stronghold of all FKKs right now. Reinforced by girls from Hesse, which is closed. I am chatting with Samya girls. Friday and Saturday 50 to 80 women, awesome LU between 18:00 and 20:00, even more women later, but also getting really crowded later, waiting times for keys, dancing, public sex in kino. Wednesday and Thursday pretty good LU, too. Monday and Tuesday a little slow. Dreamland.Are the traveling Hesse women honoring the +50 anal sex upcharge of the NRW?

The Cane
02-01-22, 22:30
Are the traveling Hesse women honoring the +50 anal sex upcharge of the NRW?Yeah, that's what we want to know LOLOLOL!

Mr Ho
02-01-22, 23:47
Yeah, that's what we want to know LOLOLOL!And 25 euro CIM of gt and LR! But I think those days will be gone now as ocean bought GT!

Mr Ho
02-02-22, 03:19
I used to hate feminism movement, but I came to realization that it is not all working against us! Let me explain!

This feminism movement in part make girls try to be independent, and one of this is masculinization of their personality as they want to be independent and one of the essence of being independence is not depending on men and be independent financially! But as usual, they get and twist things all the way LOL! Because they know their pussy have power over men, so they decided to put price on it and some how their logic and fate brought them to FKK with their own decision LOL! And our mongering fate brought us to FKK and here we are facing each other butt nude, but them down on the knee sucking and fucking our dick LOL! As usual there is no logic in women and no logic in feminism movement LOL!

I guess feminism movement and their stupid action is working for us mongers favors and not so much for husband type who have to deal with this in their home 24/7 LOL! I bet this putting price on their pussy and going to FKK or escort is exactly by their usual mindset of you go girl! Kinda stupid mindset LOL! But hey, more stupid they are more us mongers thrive LOL!

You see our comrade like Lenin and Stalin fucked up eastern Europe to produce good soil for future stunner young tutes, then media, sns, materialism, greed, feminism movement, and all that created the garden of eden, the secret place where us mongers can thrive LOL!

Isn't this amazing LOL!

Mr Ho
02-02-22, 03:25
Gentlemen,

I am planning a trip in the April / May 2022 timeframe. I understand that Orthodox Easter (this year Sunday, April 24) has a major impact on LU. Assuming clubs are reopened by April, what dates should be avoided? Thanks in advance for any advice.Even useless commentators WHO is beginning to say pandemic may be over this year! The problems are media!

Like Putin once said, I do not have problems with terrorists, but problems are journalists LOL!

Mr Ho
02-02-22, 03:26
Prostitution is a good thing.This many of us here knows, the problem is that most of society do not know LOL!

Sirioja
02-02-22, 09:45
Are the traveling Hesse women honoring the +50 anal sex upcharge of the NRW?What I know is Corali who is one of the prettiest and busiest at Sharks for 100/30 or 150/60, works for 50/30 in empty Samya where she was not busy. I don't know if providing same service than at Sharks where FK and BBBJ. I didn't see many Hessen girls on my 5 NRW clubs tour, when I know some Sharks A team girls returned home and they may wait reopening to return. I wish my elegant won t gain too much weight enjoying good home foods when she doesn't eat at Sharks.

Clodius1
02-02-22, 16:06
I used to hate feminism movement, but I came to realization that it is not all working against us! Let me explain!

This feminism movement in part make girls try to be independent, and one of this is masculinization of their personality as they want to be independent and one of the essence of being independence is not depending on men and be independent financially! But as usual, they get and twist things all the way LOL! Because they know their pussy have power over men, so they decided to put price on it and some how their logic and fate brought them to FKK with their own decision LOL! And our mongering fate brought us to FKK and here we are facing each other butt nude, but them down on the knee sucking and fucking our dick LOL! As usual there is no logic in women and no logic in feminism movement LOL!

I guess feminism movement and their stupid action is working for us mongers favors and not so much for husband type who have to deal with this in their home 24/7 LOL! I bet this putting price on their pussy and going to FKK or escort is exactly by their usual mindset of you go girl! Kinda stupid mindset LOL! But hey, more stupid they are more us mongers thrive LOL!

You see our comrade like Lenin and Stalin fucked up eastern Europe to produce good soil for future stunner young tutes, then media, sns, materialism, greed, feminism movement, and all that created the garden of eden, the secret place where us mongers can thrive LOL!

Isn't this amazing LOL!Not sure this is an accurate picture. You are discounting the role of the Ro lover boys. Also, feminism is responsible for women's unrealistic sense of entitlement in the West. They don't sell out their pussies for 50/ hh. They all expect to sell their pussies to Brad Pitt.

Chris1791
02-02-22, 16:24
Yeah, that's what we want to know LOLOLOL!Forget Ukraine, Burma, Afghanistan, the cost of living and energy crisis.

Anybody with a shred of decency needs to know this.

John Traveller
02-02-22, 22:54
As I'm going to NRW this weekend the choice seems to be between Aca-Gold or Samya or Magnum. Which one is recommended? Both service levels, looks and numbers count.

Also, since I need testing in addition to the vaccination, do they do testing at the door at NRW clubs?

Thanks,

And I will upload some reports.

Mr Ho
02-02-22, 23:20
Forget Ukraine, Burma, Afghanistan, the cost of living and energy crisis.

Anybody with a shred of decency needs to know this.Ukraine has among the best looking women in the whole world and best in bed, and Afghanistan people seems to be nice? As I had nice encounter with random stranger in some odd station in nrw when I was trying to get to gt and could not find the cab anywhere in middle of nowhere and this Afghan guy was helping me, I spent about 40 min with the guy as that when the next train was, but he was really pleasant chap when no others were helping as much as he did and we did not have same language to speak so we were communicating with gestures and only he did not know exactly where I was going LOL! As for Burma, only encounter I have with Burma is Rambo the last blood which was not exactly good movie, but the place did not look promising in the movie, but we never know as bad nations provide us monger with the line up in FKK, it is too bad Ukrainian people cannot enter to EU as Ukrainian girls dominating FKK together with Romanian will be dream line up LOL! Imagine that LOL!

Mr Ho
02-02-22, 23:21
Not sure this is an accurate picture. You are discounting the role of the Ro lover boys. Also, feminism is responsible for women's unrealistic sense of entitlement in the West. They don't sell out their pussies for 50/ hh. They all expect to sell their pussies to Brad Pitt.Yeah, but they still end up front of us sucking and fucking our dick for 50 euro per 30 min as an independent woman LOL!

Sirioja
02-02-22, 23:52
As I'm going to NRW this weekend the choice seems to be between Aca-Gold or Samya or Magnum. Which one is recommended? Both service levels, looks and numbers count.

Also, since I need testing in addition to the vaccination, do they do testing at the door at NRW clubs?

Thanks,

And I will upload some reports.I think test at Samya. Also at GT Oceans.

Mr Ho
02-03-22, 04:29
Not sure this is an accurate picture. You are discounting the role of the Ro lover boys. Also, feminism is responsible for women's unrealistic sense of entitlement in the West. They don't sell out their pussies for 50/ hh. They all expect to sell their pussies to Brad Pitt.Romanian lover boys are part of that system that was created by harsh history and tough and rough reality of soviet regime, it is all related eventually to us mongers LOL!

I welcome loverboys and pimps, they are very important part of mongering ecosystem LOL!

Escape Artist
02-03-22, 04:49
As I'm going to NRW this weekend the choice seems to be between Aca-Gold or Samya or Magnum. Which one is recommended? Both service levels, looks and numbers count.

Also, since I need testing in addition to the vaccination, do they do testing at the door at NRW clubs?

Thanks,

And I will upload some reports.No testing after 14 days with booster.

30 ish girls on a Wednesday at Samya. Optics acceptable, nothing spectacular. BBBJ upcharge attempts common. Service otherwise same as always.

Mr Ho
02-03-22, 06:09
No testing after 14 days with booster.

30 ish girls on a Wednesday at Samya. Optics acceptable, nothing spectacular. BBBJ upcharge attempts common. Service otherwise same as always.So BBBJ up charge became common in nrw then? Or LR and gt were the only ones where BBBJ was still standard after 2017 law!

I missed on Samya, but went to cologne during my FKK trip to visit that world heritage cathedral and went back all the way to GT LOL! I did not feel the line up has stunner at samya, but was I wrong?

Sirioja
02-03-22, 06:56
No testing after 14 days with booster.

30 ish girls on a Wednesday at Samya. Optics acceptable, nothing spectacular. BBBJ upcharge attempts common. Service otherwise same as always.In EU, for EU pass, this is 7 days after ARN booster.

The Cane
02-03-22, 11:10
Ukraine has among the best looking women in the whole world and best in bed.One of my favorites of all times is a Ukrainian girl I was fucking at Palace. I have her WhatsApp and remain in contact with her to this day (and save many, many pretty pics of her hehehe). Why, I just messaged her the other day to watch out for a Ruskie! And, she has given me some of my most rememberable moments as a monger. Like the time when she was on all fours, and I was getting ready to penetrate into her butt hole and she goes, "Get in there, get in there! Don't be scared"! Hahahaha!

Chris1791
02-03-22, 13:01
Ukraine has among the best looking women in the whole world and best in bed, and Afghanistan people seems to be nice? As I had nice encounter with random stranger in some odd station in nrw when I was trying to get to gt and could not find the cab anywhere in middle of nowhere and this Afghan guy was helping me, I spent about 40 min with the guy as that when the next train was, but he was really pleasant chap when no others were helping as much as he did and we did not have same language to speak so we were communicating with gestures and only he did not know exactly where I was going LOL! As for Burma, only encounter I have with Burma is Rambo the last blood which was not exactly good movie, but the place did not look promising in the movie, but we never know as bad nations provide us monger with the line up in FKK, it is too bad Ukrainian people cannot enter to EU as Ukrainian girls dominating FKK together with Romanian will be dream line up LOL! Imagine that LOL!Sorry, I was talking bollocks and reinforcing a previous comment. About forgetting all the bad things in the world and all you really need to know is if any Hesse ladies now working in NRW are charging the Hesse anal upcharge or not now they are working in NRW. This is what the fine people of this world want to know.

However, always appreciate your input, predictable but entertaining a bit like AC / DC. In fact you could write their lyrics, all their songs are about fucking with no love. Your post above is different for you.

I once thought of going to Ukraine to visit Chernobyl and combining the trip with a mongers visit to Kiev. Too much effort with not enough guarantees in the end. Once saw a documentary about an English guy who signed up to some Ukraine dating agencies and went over for a week. He had a date every night and was getting his end away. While you were watching it was not clear who was playing who but in the end it was clear he was 'mongering.' He left with no commitments haha.

Rambo in Burma. The bit where he blows the guys head off at point blank range in the front of the jeep is a visual masterpiece, essential to the story and worth the watch just for that scene. On the subject of Burma, do you think Burmese women will start working in Thailand, there is a lot already on the Thai-Burma border?

I once met a drinks service lady from Iran working in a UK strip club (I only been once to a UK strip club on someones work's birthday). Did not dress like an Iranian woman haha she was stunning. Don't know much about Afghanistan except what I see on TV. Never met an Afghan woman properly.

Generally third world people are nice unless they are looking to rob you. Third world people in first world countries have to be nice especially when they are on their own.

The Cane
02-03-22, 13:24
I don't know about you guys, but as I get older, I'm finding more and more gray in my pubic hair. So much so, that I've decided that before my next mongering trip (who knows when that will be), I will be taking care to remove and / or cut down my pubes to promote my otherwise younger appearance for my age (by 10 to 15 years). We men need to do some "manscaping" on our bodies to remain somewhat attractive to these tutes. It helps with our overall success. Some gray on the head is OK. But I don't want "grayed out" nuts! Haha! I mean look at Mr. Ho. He's always sure to trim his anal hairs to entice more tutes to lick his ass! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Chris1791
02-03-22, 13:34
No testing after 14 days with booster.

30 ish girls on a Wednesday at Samya. Optics acceptable, nothing spectacular. BBBJ upcharge attempts common. Service otherwise same as always.I called Samya or was it Mondial last week and they advised no test required if you have had 3 jabs. They have free testing on the door anyway.

I am going to take a test before anyway and have it ready just in case. I want to walk straight through and not hang around at the door entrance so having everything covered is worth it to me.

Free testing in Cologne that can be booked on internet;.

https://mein-kostenloser-schnelltest.de/koeln-mediapark/

https://covid-testzentrum.de/koeln/

Results in 15 minutes via email / PDF.

Mr Ho
02-03-22, 13:36
Sorry, I was talking bollocks and reinforcing a previous comment. About forgetting all the bad things in the world and all you really need to know is if any Hesse ladies now working in NRW are charging the Hesse anal upcharge or not now they are working in NRW. This is what the fine people of this world want to know.

However, always appreciate your input, predictable but entertaining a bit like AC / DC. In fact you could write their lyrics, all their songs are about fucking with no love. Your post above is different for you.

I once thought of going to Ukraine to visit Chernobyl and combining the trip with a mongers visit to Kiev. Too much effort with not enough guarantees in the end. Once saw a documentary about an English guy who signed up to some Ukraine dating agencies and went over for a week. He had a date every night and was getting his end away. While you were watching it was not clear who was playing who but in the end it was clear he was 'mongering.' He left with no commitments haha.

Rambo in Burma. The bit where he blows the guys head off at point blank range in the front of the jeep is a visual masterpiece, essential to the story and worth the watch just for that scene. On the subject of Burma, do you think Burmese women will start working in Thailand, there is a lot already on the Thai-Burma border?.AC / DC is cool, I listen to them sometimes, but the best was when Axl Rose took over for one tour and wow the guy can sing and rock LOL!

I have been to Kiev and unlike in Bucharest Romania, I did monger in Kiev, but I tell you, FKK is as good or even better, I have friends in eastern Europe, so when I get support from my friends, mongering in eastern Europe is top and it is mostly done in banya in Russian sauna club and it has bed rooms there, it is kinda VIP set up and tutes are not in house tutes, but taken from outside, normally it is just regular banya, but often used for fucking as well apparently! I also went to this famous ship in Kiev where there is bar and all girls there are tutes, it was good one, but I prefer FKK more for ship place, but banya organized by a friend was better than FKK! Top stunners! Some of these eastern Europe guys live good LOL!

Immigrants people are nice yes, I met plenty of nice immigrants people in Germany in restaurants, and other places, and of course in FKK girls LOL! Many of FKK girls are second or third generation immigrants LOL!

ZugVogel
02-03-22, 16:23
My meaning was if You don t lose your head nor key, you should not be stolen if you are able to control with girls. Some leave clubs forgetting their head. I only forgot about my money back from entry at Bruggen when I was welcome by some girls coming to me on desk while paying, but then desk girls ran after me in locker to give me back. I was threatened at Sharks, not by Balkanians, but never heard about thefts when cameras in locker. So many stories in this business. I only trust what I saw.You are free to believe what you want to believe. But be aware that it is not true. Not everyone knows everything. Given that there are multiple victims and witnesses, it is reasonable to assume that there is theft.

Chris1791
02-03-22, 17:14
AC / DC is cool, I listen to them sometimes, but the best was when Axl Rose took over for one tour and wow the guy can sing and rock LOL!

I have been to Kiev and unlike in Bucharest Romania, I did monger in Kiev, but I tell you, FKK is as good or even better, I have friends in eastern Europe, so when I get support from my friends, mongering in eastern Europe is top and it is mostly done in banya in Russian sauna club and it has bed rooms there, it is kinda VIP set up and tutes are not in house tutes, but taken from outside, normally it is just regular banya, but often used for fucking as well apparently! I also went to this famous ship in Kiev where there is bar and all girls there are tutes, it was good one, but I prefer FKK more for ship place, but banya organized by a friend was better than FKK! Top stunners! Some of these eastern Europe guys live good LOL!

Immigrants people are nice yes, I met plenty of nice immigrants people in Germany in restaurants, and other places, and of course in FKK girls LOL! Many of FKK girls are second or third generation immigrants LOL!I saw Axl Rose with AC / DC twice in London and Manchester. He did a good job.

The original singer was the best. There is an art to singing like that haha. It helps if you drink a bottle of whiskey before you go on stage I imagine.

I seen video's of AC / DC playing Japan in their 1980 (Feb 1981) heyday and the crowd are going nuts, very unusual for a Japanese crowd who normally sit there in near silence.

Yes, Ukraine women look fantastic from what I've seen. Only met one in FKK she was a 6-7/10, need more.

John Traveller
02-03-22, 19:17
Do you guys know where a non-ripoff ATM is located at DUS airport? Also at Dusseldorf Hbf and Cologne Hbf? Is it Postbank?

Last time in Germany I had problems with the fees.

Chris1791
02-03-22, 21:26
Do you guys know where a non-ripoff ATM is located at DUS airport? Also at Dusseldorf Hbf and Cologne Hbf? Is it Postbank?

Last time in Germany I had problems with the fees.I come from UK and have a zero currency fee debit MasterCard not sure if that makes a difference. Deutsche and Sparkasse bank's gave me exactly the same best rate. Neither of these banks charge you for using the ATM so it comes down to the conversion fee's your bank imposes and the same for the bank you are taking money out of (I think). I am told my card gives me the MasterCard rate which can be checked here: https://www.mastercard.co.uk/en-gb/personal/get-support/convert-currency.html Tried the national bank which name escapes me at mo which was not as good.

In Cologne I always use the Deutsche bank ATM 3 minutes walk from Cologne HBF on Trankgasse next to the Dom / Hauptbahnof (Underground) on google maps. Note the bank is overground. You have to open the door to get to the ATM's, still 24/7 I think. Sometimes homeless people sleeping inside but they are harmless. Also Deutsche bank ATM's at Neumarkt heading to Lidl in Neumarkt Galerie (shopping centre).

If not those do a google search 'deutsche bank cologne' or 'Sparkasse bank cologne'.

Sparkasse bank self standing ATM's at Cologne airport which I have not tried. I can't imagine them being a rip off. Any of these at Dusseldorf airport? I seen a Sparkasse ATM across the road from the main Dusseldorf HBF entrance slightly to the right after all the trams before you venture into the city.

And I just remembered there is a set of Sparkasse bank ATM's actually inside Cologne HBF at the top North side/leg.

Sirioja
02-03-22, 21:35
I saw Axl Rose with AC / DC twice in London and Manchester. He did a good job.

The original singer was the best. There is an art to singing like that haha. It helps if you drink a bottle of whiskey before you go on stage I imagine.

I seen video's of AC / DC playing Japan in their 1980 (Feb 1981) heyday and the crowd are going nuts, very unusual for a Japanese crowd who normally sit there in near silence.

Yes, Ukraine women look fantastic from what I've seen. Only met one in FKK she was a 6-7/10, need more.Axl Rose was singing with AC / DC? Bon Scott was first for highway to hell. I love Deep Purple made in Japan. I don't find many Ukrainians so pretty, they can't compete with Russians and on average not prettier than Romanians or Moldavians. Real Moldavians are the best combo for GFE and rate, usually 100/60 in Germany with real FK and BBBJ, other than Chisinau, good way to know if real or lie.

Sirioja
02-03-22, 21:42
I don't know about you guys, but as I get older, I'm finding more and more gray in my pubic hair. So much so, that I've decided that before my next mongering trip (who knows when that will be), I will be taking care to remove and / or cut down my pubes to promote my otherwise younger appearance for my age (by 10 to 15 years). We men need to do some "manscaping" on our bodies to remain somewhat attractive to these tutes. It helps with our overall success. Some gray on the head is OK. But I don't want "grayed out" nuts! Haha! I mean look at Mr. Ho. He's always sure to trim his anal hairs to entice more tutes to lick his ass! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!I don't even shave my face to go to brothels. Girls go with so uglies. I was surprised to see a girl at Gold who really meant, not looking at him, not answering him, putting his hand off her, when not many refuse uglies or old.

The Cane
02-03-22, 21:45
I will be taking care to remove and / or cut down my pubes to promote my otherwise younger appearance for my age (by 10 to 15 years).Somebody told me that they thought I was 20 years younger than I really am! I should have lied even more when setting up my Seeking Arrangement account LOLOLOL! By the way, tomorrow I will put up my first report on how its gone for me on that site. Guys. You don't want to miss it. Believe this!

Mr Ho
02-03-22, 23:20
I saw Axl Rose with AC / DC twice in London and Manchester. He did a good job.

The original singer was the best. There is an art to singing like that haha. It helps if you drink a bottle of whiskey before you go on stage I imagine.

I seen video's of AC / DC playing Japan in their 1980 (Feb 1981) heyday and the crowd are going nuts, very unusual for a Japanese crowd who normally sit there in near silence.

Yes, Ukraine women look fantastic from what I've seen. Only met one in FKK she was a 6-7/10, need more.I went to not ac / dc, but I saw Guns and roses 3 times here and I was at the front row for two of the show, I am the type who watch just standing up, but man, the people around me was going nuts that I thought I attended some kind of cult religion event LOL! When Axl come close to sing front of the crowd, people around goes Axl! Axl! Axl! And all I can here is that and not the song LOL! It was that crazy LOL! Good singer he is! Too shame he wasted like around 10 years or more of his career doing his thing that is? But he is loaded so he can afford it LOL!

If Ukraine manage to join or have some Schengen deal, then Ukrainian girls will come to FKK I think, but with 100000 Russian soldiers at the border, I think it is unlikely that it will happen LOL! Stalin and Lenin helped a lot to provide stunners to mongering industry by fucking up the economy of the former soviet nations including Romania and parent or grand parent of our FKK girls, but then Putin put stop to Ukrainian stunners to make their way to German FKK LOL!

SerpentX
02-04-22, 03:21
ATMs in the train station don't charge extra fee. Don't use atms inside the airport. I think they charge 2. 5% extra.


I come from UK and have a zero currency fee debit MasterCard not sure if that makes a difference. Deutsche and Sparkasse bank's gave me exactly the same best rate. Neither of these banks charge you for using the ATM so it comes down to the conversion fee's your bank imposes and the same for the bank you are taking money out of (I think). I am told my card gives me the MasterCard rate which can be checked here: https://www.mastercard.co.uk/en-gb/personal/get-support/convert-currency.html Tried the national bank which name escapes me at mo which was not as good.

In Cologne I always use the Deutsche bank ATM 3 minutes walk from Cologne HBF on Trankgasse next to the Dom / Hauptbahnof (Underground) on google maps. Note the bank is overground. You have to open the door to get to the ATM's, still 24/7 I think. Sometimes homeless people sleeping inside but they are harmless. Also Deutsche bank ATM's at Neumarkt heading to Lidl in Neumarkt Galerie (shopping centre).

If not those do a google search 'deutsche bank cologne' or 'Sparkasse bank cologne'.

Sparkasse bank self standing ATM's at Cologne airport which I have not tried. I can't imagine them being a rip off. Any of these at Dusseldorf airport? I seen a Sparkasse ATM across the road from the main Dusseldorf HBF entrance slightly to the right after all the trams before you venture into the city.

And I just remembered there is a set of Sparkasse bank ATM's actually inside Cologne HBF at the top North side/leg.

DrPoon
02-04-22, 07:13
That would be good for all the tourists who can't get into hotel rooms without a vax card. They can sleep and set up shot at the Deutsche or Sparkasse ATM shelter.


I come from UK and have a zero currency fee debit MasterCard not sure if that makes a difference. Deutsche and Sparkasse bank's gave me exactly the same best rate. Neither of these banks charge you for using the ATM so it comes down to the conversion fee's your bank imposes and the same for the bank you are taking money out of (I think). I am told my card gives me the MasterCard rate which can be checked here: https://www.mastercard.co.uk/en-gb/personal/get-support/convert-currency.html Tried the national bank which name escapes me at mo which was not as good.

In Cologne I always use the Deutsche bank ATM 3 minutes walk from Cologne HBF on Trankgasse next to the Dom / Hauptbahnof (Underground) on google maps. Note the bank is overground. You have to open the door to get to the ATM's, still 24/7 I think. Sometimes homeless people sleeping inside but they are harmless. Also Deutsche bank ATM's at Neumarkt heading to Lidl in Neumarkt Galerie (shopping centre).

If not those do a google search 'deutsche bank cologne' or 'Sparkasse bank cologne'.

Mr Ho
02-04-22, 08:12
I don't know about you guys, but as I get older, I'm finding more and more gray in my pubic hair. So much so, that I've decided that before my next mongering trip (who knows when that will be), I will be taking care to remove and / or cut down my pubes to promote my otherwise younger appearance for my age (by 10 to 15 years). We men need to do some "manscaping" on our bodies to remain somewhat attractive to these tutes. It helps with our overall success. Some gray on the head is OK. But I don't want "grayed out" nuts! Haha! I mean look at Mr. Ho. He's always sure to trim his anal hairs to entice more tutes to lick his ass! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!I am expert on shaving my ass, so I increase the probability of getting rimjob, I advise to use some kind of oil first then put organic shaving cream then shave your ass, so you do not cut your anal and end up in hospital or get infected LOL!

I think tutes do not mind white hair in pubic hair LOL!

Mr Ho
02-04-22, 10:16
Somebody told me that they thought I was 20 years younger than I really am! I should have lied even more when setting up my Seeking Arrangement account LOLOLOL! By the way, tomorrow I will put up my first report on how its gone for me on that site. Guys. You don't want to miss it. Believe this!What site? Sugar daddy thing?

Chris1791
02-04-22, 10:38
Axl Rose was singing with AC / DC? Bon Scott was first for highway to hell. I love Deep Purple made in Japan. I don't find many Ukrainians so pretty, they can't compete with Russians and on average not prettier than Romanians or Moldavians. Real Moldavians are the best combo for GFE and rate, usually 100/60 in Germany with real FK and BBBJ, other than Chisinau, good way to know if real or lie.On Deep Purple Made In Japan the crowd are sitting down quiet during the songs then when they finish they politely clap. I guess they were a bit hippyish back then. Different to an AC / DC gig haha. Bon Scott is my all time hero he was living the songs. Let There Be Rock Live in Paris 1980 one of his last ever gigs, the following month he died.

I would have thought all eastern European countries women are more or less the same. The key is they are not fat like western women. I can put up with an average face if there is a good body attached to it. With luck they will have invented realistic android sex robots when I am 80.

Chris1791
02-04-22, 11:26
I went to not ac / dc, but I saw Guns and roses 3 times here and I was at the front row for two of the show, I am the type who watch just standing up, but man, the people around me was going nuts that I thought I attended some kind of cult religion event LOL! When Axl come close to sing front of the crowd, people around goes Axl! Axl! Axl! And all I can here is that and not the song LOL! It was that crazy LOL! Good singer he is! Too shame he wasted like around 10 years or more of his career doing his thing that is? But he is loaded so he can afford it LOL!

If Ukraine manage to join or have some Schengen deal, then Ukrainian girls will come to FKK I think, but with 100000 Russian soldiers at the border, I think it is unlikely that it will happen LOL! Stalin and Lenin helped a lot to provide stunners to mongering industry by fucking up the economy of the former soviet nations including Romania and parent or grand parent of our FKK girls, but then Putin put stop to Ukrainian stunners to make their way to German FKK LOL!I bet the same people (I guess they were youngish females) don't hero worship him as much now he looks a bit knackered and overweight. Voice is still good.

Wonder what the deal was with the Ukraine girl I met in FKK, how did she get there? And I remember she said her sister was living in Spain married to a Spanish guy. I met a Romanian in FKK who said her whole family lived in Slough, near London! It's like a biblical diaspora for these people all because of a shit political system.

Mr Ho
02-04-22, 13:28
I bet the same people (I guess they were youngish females) don't hero worship him as much now he looks a bit knackered and overweight. Voice is still good.

Wonder what the deal was with the Ukraine girl I met in FKK, how did she get there? And I remember she said her sister was living in Spain married to a Spanish guy. I met a Romanian in FKK who said her whole family lived in Slough, near London! It's like a biblical diaspora for these people all because of a shit political system.All the concerts I went was all within this 10 years and yes he was overweight already and it was mostly men who were like that LOL! I would say it was not so safe for female to be near front row as people go really nuts as if he is some god LOL!

I know Slough, it is town with full of Pakistani people, I went there once as I had a friend there long time ago like 30 years ago LOL!

Who know how most of these FKK girls get to FKK, but it is done legally I guess? But Ukraine being outside Schengen agreement, the chance for Ukrainian girls to work in FKK is very slim as of this moment, but if they can one day, it will be very good supply for us mongers beside Romanians and Bulgarians LOL!

FKK seems to always find new stunner talents, much less than before, but I like to stay optimistic as the set up is one of a kind and run properly and legally! The future of mongers are looking blight, let us be sure to get this money, so we can secure our foot hold in this mongering world of ours LOL! It could be good motivation to work hard!

Recoordy
02-04-22, 14:15
If the key wasn't broken, the criminal would have used the key to open the locker. Now, who could have the key other than the victim? LOL.The culprits are fairly identified from the circumstantial evidence we have heard from the victims.

This information was also reported to public agencies by the victims.

But I don't guess who the culprits are.

The problem is that the club didn't try to find the culprits in the event of the theft.

The Cane
02-04-22, 15:44
What site? Sugar daddy thing?It's www.seeking.com. Check out my post in the Seeking Arrangements thread on this site to read about my experiences on there so far. Wow!

Chris1791
02-04-22, 15:50
All the concerts I went was all within this 10 years and yes he was overweight already and it was mostly men who were like that LOL! I would say it was not so safe for female to be near front row as people go really nuts as if he is some god LOL!

I know Slough, it is town with full of Pakistani people, I went there once as I had a friend there long time ago like 30 years ago LOL!

Who know how most of these FKK girls get to FKK, but it is done legally I guess? But Ukraine being outside Schengen agreement, the chance for Ukrainian girls to work in FKK is very slim as of this moment, but if they can one day, it will be very good supply for us mongers beside Romanians and Bulgarians LOL!

FKK seems to always find new stunner talents, much less than before, but I like to stay optimistic as the set up is one of a kind and run properly and legally! The future of mongers are looking blight, let us be sure to get this money, so we can secure our foot hold in this mongering world of ours LOL! It could be good motivation to work hard!I saw Guns and Roses in 1988 and 1992 when everyone was a lot younger, a couple of people died at the 1988 concert with all the pushing and shoving RIP. I seen young females at AC/DC concerts trying to escape from the front after 5 mins. After 10 mins the first 15 rows are just blokes and hardcore at that. Although I did see a couple of women stay the whole duration. They had my upmost respect.

Slough is where they made the UK version of The Office with Ricky Gervais, so Slough was and always will be a bit of a joke in UK. I did not find it funny to be honest. They made an American version again not my cup of tea (or coffee!)

Any new country whose peoples can live and work in Schengen is going to be good for FKK. With the potential high numbers the first year will be like creaming off the best talent and pushing the existing dross out the other side or just creating more competition. It will be like FKK's Got Talent without Simon Cowell!

But I can't see Ukraine joining Schengen. More likely the country will enter a period of destabilization and mini battles with Russia which may bring a trickle of refugee's. Who knows?

BigBuddy69
02-04-22, 16:25
They died in Donington if I remember correctly. As for Axl Rose, yes it looks like he has a wig and his skin was burnt or peeled.

Slash on the other hand still looks good, and he was way more into drugs and booze than Axl.

Sirioja
02-04-22, 20:03
On Deep Purple Made In Japan the crowd are sitting down quiet during the songs then when they finish they politely clap. I guess they were a bit hippyish back then. Different to an AC / DC gig haha. Bon Scott is my all time hero he was living the songs. Let There Be Rock Live in Paris 1980 one of his last ever gigs, the following month he died.

I would have thought all eastern European countries women are more or less the same. The key is they are not fat like western women. I can put up with an average face if there is a good body attached to it. With luck they will have invented realistic android sex robots when I am 80.But Bob Scott lived too much drugs. I meant I loved highway star or child in time. I regret I was not born early enough for Hendrix in Woodstock, for Led Zeppelin. Kick in my mind was when I heard time on dark side of the moon from Pink Floyd, I was too young so I didn't understand, but I was just stuck listening each time I heard. Unfortunately now shit music and played in FKK. At Samya, I prefer to stay in entry than hearing so bad DJ. Many times I feel shame when I hear shit French Aya Nakamura or Mister Gimm. I only liked cristal voice Iselin Solheim at Sharks. If I find a wow beauty in FKK, I will take my phone to play US Nada Surf so much love in room.

Mr Ho
02-05-22, 00:19
I saw Guns and Roses in 1988 and 1992 when everyone was a lot younger, a couple of people died at the 1988 concert with all the pushing and shoving RIP. I seen young females at AC/DC concerts trying to escape from the front after 5 mins. After 10 mins the first 15 rows are just blokes and hardcore at that. Although I did see a couple of women stay the whole duration. They had my upmost respect.

Slough is where they made the UK version of The Office with Ricky Gervais, so Slough was and always will be a bit of a joke in UK. I did not find it funny to be honest. They made an American version again not my cup of tea (or coffee!)

Any new country whose peoples can live and work in Schengen is going to be good for FKK. With the potential high numbers the first year will be like creaming off the best talent and pushing the existing dross out the other side or just creating more competition. It will be like FKK's Got Talent without Simon Cowell!

But I can't see Ukraine joining Schengen. More likely the country will enter a period of destabilization and mini battles with Russia which may bring a trickle of refugee's. Who knows?So you saw the original line up of Guns and roses then, lucky you as I have not done that yet, I only saw with Dj ashba, and also robin finck version of guns and roses live, they came with original line up few years ago to tokyo, but I missed that one!

US and Russia and few other nations have been using other nations as battle ground for years to conduct their politic and also use up the bullets to further their budget to keep military companies happy and keep the economy going, so it looks like they want to make Ukraine as Syria of Europe? It looks like it and hey Ukraiine is beautiful nation with beautiful people inside out, so it is shame if they wage war in such a nice nation! But life goes on and history repeat it self! And now China is joining battle!

You are right on Schengen thing and line up of FKK, I mean look at Bulgaria, Romania and Poland and how it dramatically revoluted mongering scene to next level! So many young stunners at their prime for 50 euro per 30 min! But now polish are almost gone comparison to early 2010's and Bulgarian is scarce a bit and thankfully still full of Romanian stunners LOL! Let us enjoy them while they last and let keep fingers cross for new race to join Schengen, thus FKK LOL!

I had fortune to enjoy last batch of Polish stunners in 2010 till like around 2012! Wow whatta blonde stunners Poland provided to mongering industry, they got good blonde stunners there! They are missed and with their economical improvement, it is unlikely they will come to FKK as much as they used to, so you are right only first few years except Romania LOL! More these nation fuck up economically and politically, more it is better for us mongers!

Ukraine is a hope, but they won't be able to join Schengen as you mention, Putin won't let it!

Mr Ho
02-05-22, 00:24
It's www.seeking.com. Check out my post in the Seeking Arrangements thread on this site to read about my experiences on there so far. Wow!So you got your game on in USA LOL! Bareback is the way to go LOL! But man, all the hustle and bustle ain't my thing though LOL! 250 USD is good deal LOL! Better than FKK!

Mr Ho
02-05-22, 03:01
They died in Donington if I remember correctly. As for Axl Rose, yes it looks like he has a wig and his skin was burnt or peeled.

Slash on the other hand still looks good, and he was way more into drugs and booze than Axl.Axl did many surgeries and as we mongers are expert on surgeries as we became one in German FKK looking at girls transformation from an organic teenage girls to plastic monsters LOL! And as you very well know, surgeries do the opposite to most people, it make them look uglier LOL!

As for hair, I think it is not wig, but hair transportation, and hair transplant surgeries done well is one of very few surgeries that could benefit in your looks that works!

As for slash, he looks right, but we cannot even see his face LOL! Gained weight a bit though! But no fat and Duff look old, but kept his shape!

After all Axl still is still one of the best singer in history, that is for sure, that guy can really sing!

Escape Artist
02-07-22, 02:29
Checked out Aca Gold, Samya, Penelope, SixSens, Venus this week.

None was spectacular but all were acceptable. At all, you can still find good service at the club's basic rates. But all will also have some extras-selling landmines. Don't be surprised if some girls only offer covered BJs at the basic half hour rate. Never had a BBBJ problem with 1 hour rooms.

1. Samya probably the lightest line up at the moment. Their top girls are on holiday at the moment so it can always change. But again, I only saw their Wednesday line up, so perhaps some better top girls are there on the weekend. The service for me when I go with girls new to me remain 50-50. Might be great, might be CBJ basic for 30 minute rooms.

2. Average girl at SixSens probably the highest between clubs 1-4, but the top of the line up was lacking. A lot of silicone and veterans at this club at the moment but food and amenities probably better than the others. 60 euro first half with 50 euro after that. Lax door policy, no one checked my vax card, just searched my bag. Mask rule enforced only at the reception. 55 euro entrance until 11:30 am, 65 after. Closes at 22:00. Free beer kept in 2 fridges. Best spa-sauna area of clubs visited.

3. Penelope, the range of girls is so wide. They go from fat cows to hot, young, and fresh. So the average of the line up suffers but the top 2-3 are probably higher than the top 2-3 at Samya and SixSens. Super cheap entry so the ratio is pretty terrible with so many men. Food not very good and amenities also pretty bad. Only thing good about amenities and ambiance is that Penelope probably has the most comfortable couches in all FKKs. You can get rest upstairs while watching every girl go to room as they pass in front of a big screen television. It was a GoldenTime customer takeover with so many of that club's former regulars crowding the upstairs watching futbol. Top optics were Adelle from Living Room and little German Lucy who has lost weight. 3 others were within my optical range. Expect basic service from the average girl.

4. Aca Gold. Line up pretty much exactly the same situation as Penelope. Average is terrible with some uglies weighing it down, but top 2-3 carry the club. Second 2-3 also doable. Luana / Florentina from LR / GT easily the top optics but many know her service is limited. Not bad, just a low max end for service. Tits still perfect. Other members mentioned newish Eli with the hairy nipples. She's tall and slim with small boobs, fashion model look when on heels. Many who like curves will not like that look. 2 other girls also fit similar builds but with nicer tits. Carla was one who had nice tits and a face that resembled American actress Minnie Driver. The other tall one who used to work at Sharks whom I forgot her name probably had the prettiest face of the 3 taller girls and rounded out the top lookers along with Luana / Florentina. Cleo was a small firecracker that was cute but homely looking. Can be found enticing men whilst prancing directly in front of the bar. 2 others were doable second tier girls, one with a big snake tattoo, another just a nondescript 7/10.

5. Venus is a niche club. Only 12 girls, most who have long room regulars. That being said, the average girl is quite nice. No stunners, but I could have roommed with 6 of the 12 girls there for my optic taste. If you extrapolated the size of the line up to Sharks numbers, the optics would have been on par if not better. Service is reliable to great. No upsell. Beautiful new club but a bit small, like Living Room size, maybe smaller considering LR's wellness area. Unfortunately after receiving a 9 euro credit, all food and alcohol is a la carte pricing like Oceans. Without an open garden during the winter, the place is a bit small and lacking amenities and relax space. Former LR Anka was my favorite optic, little spinner Sara was a solid find. Both completely busy all day but so was literally every other girl. Service club, good optics, line up too small, too many men to girls. At various periods through the day, the only girl in the main room was the bartender.

Will repeat some of the clubs and see if line ups hold during slow weekdays.

Hessen commentary insert:

Logged 600 km and 6 hours of driving time in only 5 days while bouncing from club to club only in NRW but better than paying for 150 euro hours at Sharks, or having to pay 100 euro for a half hour with BBBJ.

Might boycott Hessen to not support that pricing trend. The club will tolerate the price gouge as long as the guys come in. But with clients not doing so many rooms with this new pricing, eventually the line up will suffer as non top-tier girls will feel the smaller income. Best optics will get their rates and make their income but can there be enough of them to support a 75-100 girl line up that Sharks requires? For now if I go back, I will only take girls I know who give me legacy pricing and exclusively only do new-to-me girls who offer 100 e / HR pricing even if they are second tier optics.

150 e per hour will be the end of the Hessen fuckfest scene. Instead, it would be reduced to drinking clubs with guys doing only 1-2 rooms per day.

Wait for talent to return as covid restrictions drop off and covid picture clarifies. If more girls return after and extended stable covid period, it should help lower pricing. If this current bullshit pricing is cemented for good, get ready to watch as Hessen FKK scene goes to shit.

Clodius1
02-07-22, 03:44
EA: Checked out Aca Gold, Samya, Penelope, SixSens, Venus this week.

Great trip report EA, thanks for that. Did you consider Villa Vanilla Grefrath or was that not in the cards? I don't think I've ever seen a trip report from the club, so maybe I'll check it out next time.

Mr Ho
02-07-22, 04:28
Checked out Aca Gold, Samya, Penelope, SixSens, Venus this week.

None was spectacular but all were acceptable. At all, you can still find good service at the club's basic rates. But all will also have some extras-selling landmines. Don't be surprised if some girls only offer covered BJs at the basic half hour rate. Never had a BBBJ problem with 1 hour rooms.

1. Samya probably the lightest line up at the moment. Their top girls are on holiday at the moment so it can always change. But again, I only saw their Wednesday line up, so perhaps some better top girls are there on the weekend. The service for me when I go with girls new to me remain 50-50. Might be great, might be CBJ basic for 30 minute rooms.

2. Average girl at SixSens probably the highest between clubs 1-4, but the top of the line up was lacking. A lot of silicone and veterans at this club at the moment but food and amenities probably better than the others. 60 euro first half with 50 euro after that. Lax door policy, no one checked my vax card, just searched my bag. Mask rule enforced only at the reception..Thanks for the report!

I think top stunner girls will just move to the upsell clubs where they can upsell and make the most money like palace, Artemis, also maybe oase and of course high fixed rate club globe! They are there for money right? The trend of up sell will continue unfortunately and that will be where stunners will concentrate! I miss early 2010's FKK where standard 30 min rate secured you BBBJ, DFK, DATY and fuck and even DFK sometimes, but now it is becoming optional one by one LOL!

In Europe, and also in Israel, Covid restriction is dropping off fast, so it is matter of time till this pandemic is over sometime this year, this is most probable situation we will be lucky to see soon or later this year! I think!

Rocko20
02-07-22, 07:17
Might boycott Hessen to not support that pricing trend. The club will tolerate the price gouge as long as the guys come in. But with clients not doing so many rooms with this new pricing, eventually the line up will suffer as non top-tier girls will feel the smaller income. Best optics will get their rates and make their income but can there be enough of them to support a 75-100 girl line up that Sharks requires? For now if I go back, I will only take girls I know who give me legacy pricing and exclusively only do new-to-me girls who offer 100 e / HR pricing even if they are second tier optics.

150 e per hour will be the end of the Hessen fuckfest scene. Instead, it would be reduced to drinking clubs with guys doing only 1-2 rooms per day.

Wait for talent to return as covid restrictions drop off and covid picture clarifies. If more girls return after and extended stable covid period, it should help lower pricing. If this current bullshit pricing is cemented for good, get ready to watch as Hessen FKK scene goes to shit.The great ones will always charge top dollar. Or they overcharge for unattractive fat guys or brand new guys, who will gladly pay.

The only solution is to monger in other countries, because we all know the price increases are coming from the great ones. Eventually.

Sirioja
02-07-22, 09:34
Sharks should stay number 1 on 2022 like it was on 2021 and Germans and locals pay 100/30 and 150/60 and even 200/60 for Angela when I don't because not pretty enough for me. Matter of grocery versus quality, when I wish you enjoyed your tour with your usual average looks. These average looks are more expensive for me than rare beauties for 150/60. Surprising a claiming high level, making big money, US medical pay flight to play grocer for average quality, when I will always prefer, maybe because I need to feel desire, best quality. For Amira Samya when she has good care for her hair or Miss Sharks supermodel when she was fresh in bed, not many girls like them at Globe, only 2 I know there, when 150/60 versus 260/60 at Globe, so I will keep on with beauties and quality when I prefer only 1 but quality room than many on average level. We are so different when I hate to waste my money for average. Unfortunately, I can't sell now new Audi as I wanted, because I need it for new job making me lose my freedom, when I really would have liked to stop to pay for its low quality for sport, having already all studied for S5 improved prepared powered with bioethanol and more sporty quattro, when I prefer to pay for higher quality. Of course I prefer to pay 100/60 for my elegant who was my best 2021 all over FKK land girl and wish to find her again at Sharks. But better to be clever enough to understand new rates will never decrease when Germans and locals validated these rates since lockdown. I prefer quality than cheap. But can still find very good girls for 100/60 at Sharks, now 110/60 at 6, but have to know a bit about FKK land to know when best times, not when A team is at home.

Escape Artist
02-07-22, 14:04
The great ones will always charge top dollar. Or they overcharge for unattractive fat guys or brand new guys, who will gladly pay.

The only solution is to monger in other countries, because we all know the price increases are coming from the great ones. Eventually.It's not only the great ones charging that rate. B_team girls are doing the same in Hessen.

Price increases are understandably inevitable, but 100% and 150% increase is exploitation. They can only do this due to a lack of girl-side supply, hopefully a temporary situation. Accepting these rates without giving the market time to correct itself is panic buying that fucks yourself and everyone else. There have also been price increases in areas not called Hessen and those price hikes are usually only 120% or some other amount that is more understandable.

Look at the escort market, with clubs being closed more girls entered that market during the pandemic yet prices have remained the same. The FKK price increase is allowed to happen only by guys allowing themselves to get fucked. The private apartment mongers are showing more poise in selecting fair priced girls while FKK goers who give in are showing their weakness to a naked girl standing in front of them.

Escape Artist
02-07-22, 14:30
Thanks for the report!

I think top stunner girls will just move to the upsell clubs where they can upsell and make the most money like palace, Artemis, also maybe oase and of course high fixed rate club globe! They are there for money right? The trend of up sell will continue unfortunately and that will be where stunners will concentrate! I miss early 2010's FKK where standard 30 min rate secured you BBBJ, DFK, DATY and fuck and even DFK sometimes, but now it is becoming optional one by one LOL!

In Europe, and also in Israel, Covid restriction is dropping off fast, so it is matter of time till this pandemic is over sometime this year, this is most probable situation we will be lucky to see soon or later this year! I think!I can appreciate a situation where all the stunner girls go to a few clubs and charge their rates while nice looking but less stunner girls are at another club with a more fair rate. If that becomes the situation, I would just do my high-room days at the normal clubs and save the stunner-expensive clubs for the back end of a trip where I only do 1 or 2 girls.

I think May and June will be better to good months. Even with the Hessen reopening, Germany will still have vax and test requirements for at least a couple more months. Girls waiting out the pandemic in Romania will need to see stability before returning, so mostly the hardcore pro girls will continue to work during this time. Then in 2 months, it will be April which this year has both Ramadan and Orthodox Easter, traditionally poor times to visit clubs, particularly Easter. It will be especially bad when the 2 holidays coincide. So hopefully May will be a good scene and, if the covid situation holds, progressively gets better throughout the summer. Much will depend on what the guys visiting do with these exploitive and hopefully temporary price increases.

Escape Artist
02-07-22, 14:40
Sharks should stay number 1 on 2022 like it was on 2021 and Germans and locals pay 100/30 and 150/60 and even 200/60 for Angela when I don't because not pretty enough for me. Matter of grocery versus quality, when I wish you enjoyed your tour with your usual average looks. These average looks are more expensive for me than rare beauties for 150/60. Surprising a claiming high level, making big money, US medical pay flight to play grocer for average quality, when I will always prefer, maybe because I need to feel desire, best quality. For Amira Samya when she has good care for her hair or Miss Sharks supermodel when she was fresh in bed, not many girls like them at Globe, only 2 I know there, when 150/60 versus 260/60 at Globe, so I will keep on with beauties and quality when I prefer only 1 but quality room than many on average level. We are so different when I hate to waste my money for average. Unfortunately, I can't sell now new Audi as I wanted, because I need it for new job making me lose my freedom, when I really would have liked to stop to pay for its low quality for sport, having already all studied for S5 improved prepared powered with bioethanol and more sporty quattro, when I prefer to pay for higher quality. Of course I prefer to pay 100/60 for my elegant who was my best 2021 all over FKK land girl and wish to find her again at Sharks. But better to be clever enough to understand new rates will never decrease when Germans and locals validated these rates since lockdown. I prefer quality than cheap. But can still find very good girls for 100/60 at Sharks, now 110/60 at 6, but have to know a bit about FKK land to know when best times, not when A team is at home.Guys who are able to do multiple finishes in a day for many days can explore the line ups from second tier to top tier, experience variety. As we go older, it is expected to no longer be able to finish 3 and 4 times for many days consecutively. At that point, it is acceptable to save your load for one girl in a day, finish once in that day, and pay more for those rooms.

For those who are able, enjoy this time when your dick can get hard all day and finish 3, 4, and 5 times. Eventually as we all get more grey, some will have to take solace in making that one room count.

Sirioja
02-07-22, 15:02
EA: Checked out Aca Gold, Samya, Penelope, SixSens, Venus this week.

Great trip report EA, thanks for that. Did you consider Villa Vanilla Grefrath or was that not in the cards? I don't think I've ever seen a trip report from the club, so maybe I'll check it out next time.Are you sure Vanila ex Vertigo reopened? Was good for part timer, but things change.

Escape Artist
02-07-22, 16:43
EA: Checked out Aca Gold, Samya, Penelope, SixSens, Venus this week.

Great trip report EA, thanks for that. Did you consider Villa Vanilla Grefrath or was that not in the cards? I don't think I've ever seen a trip report from the club, so maybe I'll check it out next time.I don't know this to be fact but there was a rumor that the GT owner previously bought the Villa Venus / Vertigo property. Supposedly the former theke, Tatiana? Had / has plans to reopen it. We can hope because as much as I can appreciate the cheap clubs because the girls are after all the main attraction, I do not enjoy only going to clubs with poor amenities where the only ambiance options are either depressing or a party with loud Turkish music.

With GT, LR, and Yin Yang gone, there is a niche market with a void to fill, a club with decent amenities, relax areas, and reliable service standards.

Gino02
02-07-22, 17:41
In case anyone here didn't know yet, Hesse government big wigs caved in into public opinions. This is a win for the freedom loving people! All Hesse clubs can reopen starting today. FKKs Sharks, Palace and World have already updated their websites! Enjoy mongering again friends. Finally win for the freedom loving people (though that 2 g+ requirements still suck, hopefully we the people will win over that too soon).

Viva la FKKs! Long live our sexual freedom and paradise! Hope the voters remember all these months and years of fuckery by the so-called leaders in the next election.

Sirioja
02-07-22, 22:21
It's not only the great ones charging that rate. B_team girls are doing the same in Hessen.

Price increases are understandably inevitable, but 100% and 150% increase is exploitation. They can only do this due to a lack of girl-side supply, hopefully a temporary situation. Accepting these rates without giving the market time to correct itself is panic buying that fucks yourself and everyone else. There have also been price increases in areas not called Hessen and those price hikes are usually only 120% or some other amount that is more understandable.

Look at the escort market, with clubs being closed more girls entered that market during the pandemic yet prices have remained the same. The FKK price increase is allowed to happen only by guys allowing themselves to get fucked. The private apartment mongers are showing more poise in selecting fair priced girls while FKK goers who give in are showing their weakness to a naked girl standing in front of them.If you tried GT Oceans after 7 pm, or PHG, I doubt you would find many GFE for 50/30, not only Hessen and whatever all written, mostly without visiting, isn't your Cosmina for 100/60 ? At least she is for few French, not me who found others like Cena for real GFE for 100/60 , when she would be a fresh natural superstar at Globe. Another for 100/60 for my elegant.

Mr Ho
02-08-22, 00:24
I can appreciate a situation where all the stunner girls go to a few clubs and charge their rates while nice looking but less stunner girls are at another club with a more fair rate. If that becomes the situation, I would just do my high-room days at the normal clubs and save the stunner-expensive clubs for the back end of a trip where I only do 1 or 2 girls.

I think May and June will be better to good months. Even with the Hessen reopening, Germany will still have vax and test requirements for at least a couple more months. Girls waiting out the pandemic in Romania will need to see stability before returning, so mostly the hardcore pro girls will continue to work during this time. Then in 2 months, it will be April which this year has both Ramadan and Orthodox Easter, traditionally poor times to visit clubs, particularly Easter. It will be especially bad when the 2 holidays coincide. So hopefully May will be a good scene and, if the covid situation holds, progressively gets better throughout the summer. Much will depend on what the guys visiting do with these exploitive and hopefully temporary price increases.Began with Denmark I think, lifting all restriction of corona is good trigger point of beginning of the end to this pandemic! I would say, if the situation continue to be like this, by the summer of this year, we may see most of EU nations lifting all stupid restriction on corona! Then FKK will be back to norm from September on as girls want to come back to make money for end of year finally!

We will see what will happen, but this emicron variant is too weak to consider as strong virus from stand point of poison, it is just strong infection!

I do not mind the test requirement, but I mind the vaccine requirement as I choose not to put this poison in long term liquid made in rush into my body! So with vaccine requirement, I remain being prisoner, but pcr test no problem LOL!

JoeThighsMan
02-08-22, 01:01
I'm headed to Berlin the end of next month, and obviously Artemis is on my list.

I'm an outcall kinda guy at home, so I'd like to spend one night having the ass delivered to my room. Has CV19 limited the outcall options as much as it has the FKK lineups?

Escape Artist
02-08-22, 02:04
If you tried GT Oceans after 7 pm, or PHG, I doubt you would find many GFE for 50/30, not only Hessen and whatever all written, mostly without visiting, isn't your Cosmina for 100/60 ? At least she is for few French, not me who found others like Cena for real GFE for 100/60 , when she would be a fresh natural superstar at Globe. Another for 100/60 for my elegant.You see me go to a room with Cosmina and you think she is "my" Cosmina? I've done 3 rooms with her in six years.

No, I don't get obsessed so easily. In this hobby, one must be stupid to stalk one girl in each club. But if you can finish only one time, then I suppose one girl is the only option.

Mr Ho
02-08-22, 03:10
Guys who are able to do multiple finishes in a day for many days can explore the line ups from second tier to top tier, experience variety. As we go older, it is expected to no longer be able to finish 3 and 4 times for many days consecutively. At that point, it is acceptable to save your load for one girl in a day, finish once in that day, and pay more for those rooms.

For those who are able, enjoy this time when your dick can get hard all day and finish 3, 4, and 5 times. Eventually as we all get more grey, some will have to take solace in making that one room count.He had a severe ED, but he fixed it to mild one with doing s lot of sport!

Sirioja
02-08-22, 07:53
I don't know this to be fact but there was a rumor that the GT owner previously bought the Villa Venus / Vertigo property. Supposedly the former theke, Tatiana? Had / has plans to reopen it. We can hope because as much as I can appreciate the cheap clubs because the girls are after all the main attraction, I do not enjoy only going to clubs with poor amenities where the only ambiance options are either depressing or a party with loud Turkish music.

With GT, LR, and Yin Yang gone, there is a niche market with a void to fill, a club with decent amenities, relax areas, and reliable service standards.6 is the new, benefiting for NRW with interesting A team when will return. Bruggen, LR and YY belong to the past. For brothels, future is always better. 2 interesting with some high level clubs for me, this is Ok for me and good run between them.

Mr Ho
02-08-22, 08:37
I'm headed to Berlin the end of next month, and obviously Artemis is on my list.

I'm an outcall kinda guy at home, so I'd like to spend one night having the ass delivered to my room. Has CV19 limited the outcall options as much as it has the FKK lineups?Isn't Artemis closed as of this moment?

JoeThighsMan
02-08-22, 16:00
Isn't Artemis closed as of this moment?I hope not. At least hope they are open the end of March.

Sirioja
02-08-22, 21:11
You see me go to a room with Cosmina and you think she is "my" Cosmina? I've done 3 rooms with her in six years.

No, I don't get obsessed so easily. In this hobby, one must be stupid to stalk one girl in each club. But if you can finish only one time, then I suppose one girl is the only option.My meaning was long time Cosmina I got when was brunette on 2014 , or lovely, great in bed Cena, or my elegant, best 2021 FKK girl, are for 100/60 at Sharks where can find really good girls for only 100/60, when you should not find many at PHG or among Oceans girls after 8 pm. If you were able to practice my sports, then you would experience blood pressure, when never alcohol nor cigarettes nor needing drugs nor medicines also help to be healthy and powerful. I just wish vaccines won't destroy my heart.

Mr Ho
02-08-22, 23:12
I hope not. At least hope they are open the end of March.Some EU nations lifting restrictions are good news! Good luck to ya! Worst case scenario, be sure to get free wifi at your hotel and bring your pc, and you got your forever friend called your right hand LOL!

Mr Ho
02-09-22, 05:39
There was a time when a beautiful half German, half Russian Ivana sugar look like used to suck my dick like a vacuum machine for about 30 minutes straight and she used to love open the curtain when she fucked, so I see the sun coming in through the window and I still remember that sun ray every day to this day when I see the sun shinning, usual day dreaming of monger about the past that was real LOL!

Our days will return LOL!

Pistons
02-10-22, 21:31
There was a time when a beautiful half German, half Russian Ivana sugar look like used to suck my dick like a vacuum machine for about 30 minutes straight and she used to love open the curtain when she fucked, so I see the sun coming in through the window and I still remember that sun ray every day to this day when I see the sun shinning, usual day dreaming of monger about the past that was real LOL!

Our days will return LOL!Does Japanese vacuum machines have alternating rhythms?

Pistons
02-10-22, 21:35
Guys who are able to do multiple finishes in a day for many days can explore the line ups from second tier to top tier, experience variety. As we go older, it is expected to no longer be able to finish 3 and 4 times for many days consecutively. At that point, it is acceptable to save your load for one girl in a day, finish once in that day, and pay more for those rooms.

For those who are able, enjoy this time when your dick can get hard all day and finish 3, 4, and 5 times. Eventually as we all get more grey, some will have to take solace in making that one room count.Suuure, so this is how you justify the covid and covid vaccine induced dick clotting?

I just eat some aphrodisiacs and I'm good to go 3+ times a day still for several days in a row! But I don't smoke either.

Pistons
02-10-22, 21:39
I haven't been to Germany now for maybe nearly 3 years (I've focused on Austria lately). But for the local Germans, how easy for you is it to get the old 50/30 rates there now? Still double, or is it 100 for everyone at the moment?

Mr Ho
02-11-22, 00:29
Suuure, so this is how you justify the covid and covid vaccine induced dick clotting?

I just eat some aphrodisiacs and I'm good to go 3+ times a day still for several days in a row! But I don't smoke either.Me twice is secured for sure, but third session can be? Now, so I pop a pill after second one! If I want more than 3 sessions per day, but thankfully most of time now there are not more than one or two stunners, so I am fine due to low line up LOL!

Then now we going to get the guy who mumble about usual set mantra about how sport and bicycle and climbing mountain fix all physical agings and how he is big etc LOL! Most of time, the guy who brag like that is opposite like all things in life LOL! But anyways LOL!

Everyone get old, but I would say by the time we get to let say 60's, there will be science world coming up with new medicines that is so innovative that all of these aging related to sex will be gone and we mongers will be right there in FKK if there will be FKK set up, but I think it will at least in different location!

Mr Ho
02-11-22, 00:31
I haven't been to Germany now for maybe nearly 3 years (I've focused on Austria lately). But for the local Germans, how easy for you is it to get the old 50/30 rates there now? Still double, or is it 100 for everyone at the moment?I do not see the price being decreasing as we advance into future, but in nrw before covid was still 50 euro per 30 min BBBJ etc even DFK if lucky! But in artemis, palace, oceans etc forget 50/30 all in session with stunners!

Mr Ho
02-11-22, 05:43
Does Japanese vacuum machines have alternating rhythms?I do not have electronic one or tried electronic one before LOL!

I like things old school, I even do not like cars with too much electronics inside like for example, I do not need seat belt assistant to put on my seat belt, new things in general have too much electronic things that we do not need and hey when they break, it is more inconvenient LOL!

Sirioja
02-11-22, 06:22
I haven't been to Germany now for maybe nearly 3 years (I've focused on Austria lately). But for the local Germans, how easy for you is it to get the old 50/30 rates there now? Still double, or is it 100 for everyone at the moment?Germans and locals pay 100/30, 150/60 and even 200/60 with Angela who is just cute Romanian, at Sharks. These rates because Germans accepted to pay, from under lockdown. I paid 150/60 only with Miss Sharks, when 150/60 is less expensive for me than 100/30. But when You are not a grocer, these rates may attract beauties who are the only ones to interest me, when much less expensive than Globe and for prettier and more fresh looks, so can be interesting but I will only pay 150/60 for wow look and GFE, not for little, average look Romanians.

Mr Ho
02-12-22, 13:50
I was about to book an Eurasian stunner today, but the girl I wanted was taken, some day you win, some day you lose, like life and like with mongering whether you are in FKK or calling an escort LOL!

Cest la vie!

JoeThighsMan
02-12-22, 19:07
I was about to book an Eurasian stunner today, but the girl I wanted was taken, some day you win, some day you lose, like life and like with mongering whether you are in FKK or calling an escort LOL!

Cest la vie!Where does one find a Eurasian stunner?

Mr Ho
02-13-22, 03:05
Where does one find a Eurasian stunner?Escorts of all kind here or so called soap land, but mostly with the escort system called delivery health here is common place to find the Eurasian stunner, but it is still rare bleed as my taste is very high, so difficult to find stunner anywhere and Eurasian already is quite rare to find, so do the math for finding the stunner one!

I will get her some other day before she disappear as many of these stunner girls here do not stay long in mongering industry as we monger exploit them and they actually are close to normal girls making side cash, but realize how hard the job is and sex is with monger like me LOL.

With that being said, big respect for brave FKK girls who comes in to FKK industry as normal girls like they all at one point once were and manage to stay long getting fucked by different 10 dicks every day and also dealing with many strangers at all level not just sexual on daily basis day after day for years and somehow still stay nice hearted enough! Many FKK girls I met are let say fair or fair enough human beings! Big respect to those girls!

Sirioja
02-13-22, 21:40
Where does one find a Eurasian stunner?Asian Russian escorts, but moaning like little bird, worrying me about hurting them.

Clodius1
02-14-22, 01:33
Where does one find a Eurasian stunner?Nice handle. Would go over pretty well in the DMV, LOL.

DrPoon
02-14-22, 07:08
I do not have electronic one or tried electronic one before LOL!

I like things old school, I even do not like cars with too much electronics inside like for example, I do not need seat belt assistant to put on my seat belt, new things in general have too much electronic things that we do not need and hey when they break, it is more inconvenient LOL!What is "seat belt assistant"?

PaulInZurich
02-14-22, 15:15
Escorts of all kind here or so called soap land, but mostly with the escort system called delivery health here is common place to find the Eurasian stunner, but it is still rare bleed as my taste is very high, so difficult to find stunner anywhere and Eurasian already is quite rare to find, so do the math for finding the stunner one!..Please correct me if I am wrong, my understanding of Eurasian is that they have one white and one Asian parent, any white-Asian combination counts. Like Maria Ozawa who is part Canadian part Japanese.

The Cane
02-14-22, 17:06
Please correct me if I am wrong, my understanding of Eurasian is that they have one white and one Asian parent, any white-Asian combination counts. Like Maria Ozawa who is part Canadian part Japanese.And Mr. Ho was so lucky as to have fucked Maria Ozawa! However, I have seen plenty of Eurasian and Amerasian girls who are much hotter than her even.

DrPoon
02-14-22, 19:43
Please correct me if I am wrong, my understanding of Eurasian is that they have one white and one Asian parent, any white-Asian combination counts. Like Maria Ozawa who is part Canadian part Japanese.Or what if two parents who are each themselves 1/2 European and 1/2 Asian have a kid? Or what about one parent is Eurasian and another parent European and the kid is only 1/4 Asian. Could it even be discernable that the kid is Eurasian?

Also there are some areas in Russia which everyone is Eurasian such as Eastern Russia or in Western China or bordering areas where everyone is automatically Eurasian without having mixed parents.

Clodius1
02-14-22, 22:23
What is "seat belt assistant"?Probably the annoying clarion that goes off when you aren't buckled. The nanny State run amok.

Mr Ho
02-14-22, 23:51
Please correct me if I am wrong, my understanding of Eurasian is that they have one white and one Asian parent, any white-Asian combination counts. Like Maria Ozawa who is part Canadian part Japanese.Yes, correct and I fucked Maria Ozawa back in 2008 for 150000 yen (about 1500 usd) for 70 minutes in her prime! Now I would not and she moved to Manila anyways!

Eurasians are scarce still especially the stunner ones, but I still manage to find few per year! This year I did one already and looking to book another stunner I found that I failed to do due to someone already booked her!

I almost only fuck Eurasian stunners here exception is some model type Asian that is also hard to find! 168 cm up stunner level non surgery stunner that is!

Like the saying, I only fuck with the best in the west and also in the east LOL!

Mr Ho
02-14-22, 23:54
What is "seat belt assistant"?You sit down and seat belt come up almost front of you, so you can grab it and put them on without turning yourself around LOL! There are so many electronics like that I do not need in modern cars! I even do not need electronic window! I would prefer it manually with beautiful chrome handle to put down window like back in 70's or before that!

Pistons
02-15-22, 01:24
Germans and locals pay 100/30, 150/60 and even 200/60 with Angela who is just cute Romanian, at Sharks. These rates because Germans accepted to pay, from under lockdown. I paid 150/60 only with Miss Sharks, when 150/60 is less expensive for me than 100/30. But when You are not a grocer, these rates may attract beauties who are the only ones to interest me, when much less expensive than Globe and for prettier and more fresh looks, so can be interesting but I will only pay 150/60 for wow look and GFE, not for little, average look Romanians.Oh well, currencies are a joke these days anyway. And the alternatives are even more of a joke (the crypto and gold).

Mr Ho
02-15-22, 08:29
Oh well, currencies are a joke these days anyway. And the alternatives are even more of a joke (the crypto and gold).Currencies ain't no joke in FKK, that is the only thing that matter in FKK LOL!

DrPoon
02-15-22, 11:18
You sit down and seat belt come up almost front of you, so you can grab it and put them on without turning yourself around LOL! There are so many electronics like that I do not need in modern cars! I even do not need electronic window! I would prefer it manually with beautiful chrome handle to put down window like back in 70's or before that!That's pretty cool. No surprise there are so many more advanced technology in Japan as compared to the USA.

Mr Ho
02-15-22, 13:23
And Mr. Ho was so lucky as to have fucked Maria Ozawa! However, I have seen plenty of Eurasian and Amerasian girls who are much hotter than her even.Quite many time, those mixed ethnicity girls are so exotic beautiful! Like wow art level beauty! Not just Asian and white, but I also met and fucked many mixed ethnicity girls in FKK, like half Arab half German white, half African and half German white, half Turkish half German white, half Vietnamese half German white even one time even though I do not even look at anything Asian in German FKK she was so beautiful that I had to take her room in artemins that was!

My favorite taste is blonde beauty and I specifically like German white natural blonde beauty straight out of aryan master race kinda vibe, but I do also fancy some exotic beauty like above or also some Romanian stunners whose nation provide multiple type of beauties I must say Romania is very ethnicity mixed nation! Some girls are tanned, some girls are white, and Romanians are supposed to be Latin race! Is that because of their language or? I never got where that comes from! It is so odd that I went to Romania back in year 2000 or 2001 and could not monger then, but who knew that a decade later I begin to fuck so many Romanians stunners who were kids when I was there LOL! It is like I will fuck you in 10 years kinda situation without me knowing about it back then LOL! We were under the same sky when you were kid baby girl kinda situation is what is going in FKK with Romanian with me right now LOL! Back to the future kinda fucking in reality LOL!

Steve 9696
02-15-22, 21:42
Quite many time, those mixed ethnicity girls are so exotic beautiful! Like wow art level beauty! Not just Asian and white, but I also met and fucked many mixed ethnicity girls in FKK, like half Arab half German white, half African and half German white, half Turkish half German white, half Vietnamese half German white even one time even though I do not even look at anything Asian in German FKK she was so beautiful that I had to take her room in artemins that was!

My favorite taste is blonde beauty and I specifically like German white natural blonde beauty straight out of aryan master race kinda vibe, but I do also fancy some exotic beauty like above or also some Romanian stunners whose nation provide multiple type of beauties I must say Romania is very ethnicity mixed nation! Some girls are tanned, some girls are white, and Romanians are supposed to be Latin race! Is that because of their language or? I never got where that comes from! It is so odd that I went to Romania back in year 2000 or 2001 and could not monger then, but who knew that a decade later I begin to fuck so many Romanians stunners who were kids when I was there LOL! It is like I will fuck you in 10 years kinda situation without me knowing about it back then LOL! We were under the same sky when you were kid baby girl kinda situation is what is going in FKK with Romanian with me right now LOL! Back to the future kinda fucking in reality LOL!Yeah Romanians are def not Latinas. Think this was discussed before. Honestly I don't know why they call Romanian "a Romance language" like French or Spanish. I know French and Português. And Spanish and Italian are just variations of that theme. But I also know some Russian. And Romanian is waaaaay more like Russian than any of the romance languages. I don't know where that notion came from. But in practice seems to be nonsense.

The Cane
02-15-22, 21:47
Yeah Romanians are def not Latinas. Think this was discussed before. Honestly I don't know why they call Romanian "a Romance language" like French or Spanish. I know French and Portuguese. And Spanish and Italian are just variations of that theme. But I also know some Russian. And Romanian is waaaaay more like Russian than any of the romance languages. I don't know where that notion came from. But in practice seems to be nonsense.Do we really, really, really have to go down this road again? I will just say this. Being familiar with both Romance and Slavic languages, there's no question in my mind that Romanian indeed is closer to languages like Spanish, Italian, Portuguese and so on than it is to, say, Russian. Sigh!

PaulInZurich
02-15-22, 21:56
Yeah Romanians are def not Latinas. Think this was discussed before. Honestly I don't know why they call Romanian "a Romance language" like French or Spanish. I know French and Portugus. And Spanish and Italian are just variations of that theme. But I also know some Russian. And Romanian is waaaaay more like Russian than any of the romance languages. I don't know where that notion came from. But in practice seems to be nonsense.I agree that Romanians are not Latinas. But you are wrong about the Romanian language. There is pretty much consensus amongst linguists that Romanian language is a Romance language. Romanian takes at most 15 % of the vocabulary from Slavic languages, the majority of the vocabulary is of Latin origin.

I know plenty of Romanians from work, not prostitutes. All say that they can understand a decent chunk of Italian without ever learning Italian in school. No Romanian has ever said that they understand any Russian without learning Russian in school.

Escape Artist
02-15-22, 22:28
Yeah Romanians are def not Latinas. Think this was discussed before. Honestly I don't know why they call Romanian "a Romance language" like French or Spanish. I know French and Portugus. And Spanish and Italian are just variations of that theme. But I also know some Russian. And Romanian is waaaaay more like Russian than any of the romance languages. I don't know where that notion came from. But in practice seems to be nonsense.I think they def are Latinas. And Romanian is more like Italian than Russian. It just has a lot of Slavic words.

Sirioja
02-15-22, 22:38
Yeah Romanians are def not Latinas. Think this was discussed before. Honestly I don't know why they call Romanian "a Romance language" like French or Spanish. I know French and Portugus. And Spanish and Italian are just variations of that theme. But I also know some Russian. And Romanian is waaaaay more like Russian than any of the romance languages. I don't know where that notion came from. But in practice seems to be nonsense.Romanian language is very different than Russian. I love hearing girls speaking Russian, I hate to hear Romanian or German.

Mr Ho
02-15-22, 22:56
Yeah Romanians are def not Latinas. Think this was discussed before. Honestly I don't know why they call Romanian "a Romance language" like French or Spanish. I know French and Portugus. And Spanish and Italian are just variations of that theme. But I also know some Russian. And Romanian is waaaaay more like Russian than any of the romance languages. I don't know where that notion came from. But in practice seems to be nonsense.But they do declare themselves as Latin, but I think they meant language!? Also, and more importantly for mongers like us, they do have exotic more tanned type of beauties and I imagine these type of Romanian have roma back ground? I do like these tanned skin girls with very structured face with Romania that looks like stunner Arab girl but more toward white features! They serve my exotic part of my taste and when I fuck them it make me feel like I am roman empire caesar who just seized some Romanian village LOL! SPQR!

Mr Ho
02-15-22, 23:03
That's pretty cool. No surprise there are so many more advanced technology in Japan as compared to the USA.They also have this in BMW too I think and not just with Japanese cars that target more middle class market beside Lexus, but hey we do not need some machine to help us put on seat belt though LOL! I liked car when it was older like 50's till 90's!

Talking about Lexus, I thought they fail when Toyota lunched it like 20 years ago, but for two years, Lexus is number one sold luxury sector car in USA and lately their designs are getting really good that will be saturated with and suited for electric car in future, you know futuristic look, and for reliability and maintenance Lexus is Toyota company, so it is top! Toyota is making even the whole future city called Woven city in Japan, it is interesting project and it is their new business model of 21st century, exporting the whole city to foreign government! Innovative mega company!

However, I tend to like Mercedes SL, Porsche 911 and G class! I also like some Audi like old model RS6, old model RS4 be.

Steve 9696
02-15-22, 23:04
I agree that Romanians are not Latinas. But you are wrong about the Romanian language. There is pretty much consensus amongst linguists that Romanian language is a Romance language. Romanian takes at most 15 % of the vocabulary from Slavic languages, the majority of the vocabulary is of Latin origin.

I know plenty of Romanians from work, not prostitutes. All say that they can understand a decent chunk of Italian without ever learning Italian in school. No Romanian has ever said that they understand any Russian without learning Russian in school.Geez didn't know this would set off a fire storm. What I will say is FOR ME I found learning Romanian to be very weird and challenging despite know French and Portuguese. And I HEARD that Romanian girls know Spanish because they watch the Spanish telenovas.

But these are just things I experienced and heard. I withdraw all generalizations herewith!

Mr Ho
02-15-22, 23:05
Do we really, really, really have to go down this road again? I will just say this. Being familiar with both Romance and Slavic languages, there's no question in my mind that Romanian indeed is closer to languages like Spanish, Italian, Portuguese and so on than it is to, say, Russian. Sigh!Yes, because we love fucking different races so as you LOL! You know we love this interracial fucking LOL! It is 21st century globalization baby we cannot stop our penis from flying into different ethnicity LOL!

Mr Ho
02-15-22, 23:13
Geez didn't know this would set off a fire storm. What I will say is FOR ME I found learning Romanian to be very weird and challenging despite know French and Portuguese. And I HEARD that Romanian girls know Spanish because they watch the Spanish telenovas.

But these are just things I experienced and heard. I withdraw all generalizations herewith!That is why romanians claim they are spanish or italian in german FKK LOL! And why are you learning romanians for? They speak english and all you need to learn in romanian is just few words like how to say number 50,100, 150,200 and no condom etc LOL!

Beside the language, romanians are one of the most important products in mongering ecosystem, without them our prey will decreased by at least 50% or more!

McAdonis
02-16-22, 01:46
What I will say is FOR ME I found learning Romanian to be very weird and challenging despite know French and Portuguese. And I HEARD that Romanian girls know Spanish because they watch the Spanish telenovas.The Romance languages all share a common ancestor, but when the Slavs invaded Central Europe, the Romanian language was forced to develop in isolation. This caused a linguistic drift over a thousand years ago. As such, Spanish and Italian are much more mutually intelligible to each other than say Italian and Romanian.

Another point is that, languages evolve over time. Middle English from the year 1400 sounds like gibberish to me: https://youtu.be/8fxy6ZaMOq8?t=96.

That said if I heard the above passage at slower speed. Or if I had been exposed to Middle English most of my life via soap operas, perhaps I would understand more of that gibberish. Because not only is it the same language family, it is the same language!

DrPoon
02-16-22, 01:55
I think they def are Latinas. And Romanian is more like Italian than Russian. It just has a lot of Slavic words.Romanians are not Latinas. Latinas are from Central and Southern America which speak Spanish. Spanish itself came from Latin. Latin was spoken by most of Europe from 700 BC to 476 BC. Then Latin started to change in regional areas because they used slang and stopped pronouncing Latin correctly and this became Italian, French, Spanish, and Portuguese. And English itself is a mixture of old Germanic mixed with Latin.

McAdonis
02-16-22, 02:27
There is pretty much consensus amongst linguists that Romanian language is a Romance language. Romanian takes at most 15 % of the vocabulary from Slavic languages, the majority of the vocabulary is of Latin origin.Yes, Romanian is considered to be a Latin language. But the percentage of vocabulary is generally not the determining factor.

Sixty percent of the English language comes from Classical Latin or Greek. Despite that, English is not a Romance (or Hellenic) language. English is classified as a Germanic language. When one looks at the 100 most used words in the English language, 96 of them are of Germanic origin: https://www.contentjuice.co.uk/percentage-english-thats-actually-english/.

Mr Ho
02-16-22, 06:11
Yes, Romanian is considered to be a Latin language. But the percentage of vocabulary is generally not the determining factor.

Sixty percent of the English language comes from Classical Latin or Greek. Despite that, English is not a Romance (or Hellenic) language. English is classified as a Germanic language. When one looks at the 100 most used words in the English language, 96 of them are of Germanic origin: https://www.contentjuice.co.uk/percentage-english-thats-actually-english/.So that makes English people Latin Greek Germanic people then LOL!

Escape Artist
02-16-22, 10:07
Romanians are not Latinas. Latinas are from Central and Southern America which speak Spanish. Spanish itself came from Latin. Latin was spoken by most of Europe from 700 BC to 476 BC. Then Latin started to change in regional areas because they used slang and stopped pronouncing Latin correctly and this became Italian, French, Spanish, and Portuguese. And English itself is a mixture of old Germanic mixed with Latin.Agreed. Romanians are not Latinas or Latinos.

Romanian culture however is very Latin, and in more than just language.

Escape Artist
02-16-22, 10:42
Often Latin in culture, in more than just language:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Romania?wprov=sfti1


The modern national mythology contends Romanians are An island of Latinity in a Slavic sea and The only Orthodox Christian Latin people.For some reason, NYC Latin Culture Magazine incorporates Romania as a Culturally and historically Latin country:

https://www.newyorklatinculture.com/latin/european/romanian/?amp

Once more, Latin culture of Romanians as described by a Romanian cultural academic:

https://www.ijcr.eu/articole/180_30_pdf_IJCR%202-2014.pdf

PaulInZurich
02-16-22, 11:06
Geez didn't know this would set off a fire storm.Hey Steve, didn't mean for my reply to sound harsh in any way. We can disagree about stuff and still respond normally to each other.

DrPoon
02-16-22, 17:30
So that makes English people Latin Greek Germanic people then LOL!True a lot of English people migrated over during the Roman empire which would then make them partially Roman / Italian and there were invasions from Scandanavia into England and the Scandanavian people came from mainland Nortern Germany / Denmark.

And don't forget about the Chicana's in America. Chicanas are Latinas who were born in America thereby making them USA citizens and speak English (not Spanish) of Mexican descent.

Escape Artist
02-16-22, 18:20
So that makes English people Latin Greek Germanic people then LOL!English is younger than most other Indo-European languages with the English history being heavily intertwined with France, Germany, and Scandinavia. It is as tricky a language to classify as Romanian. English is technically considered a Germanic language, yet as another has mentioned, the vocabulary is 60% Latin in origin.

Mr Ho
02-16-22, 23:17
English is younger than most other Indo-European languages with the English history being heavily intertwined with France, Germany, and Scandinavia. It is as tricky a language to classify as Romanian. English is technically considered a Germanic language, yet as another has mentioned, the vocabulary is 60% Latin in origin.Communication is very important tool that can take you far in life, I learnt that in FKK, it is very important to communicate effectively and I learnt the best communication language in FKK called the power of 50 Euro LOL! That is all you have to know in FKK, 50 euro, 100 euro, 150 euro, 200 euro, you just change the number in front and say euro and that is the most effective communication in the world of FKK LOL! There is no need to speak any language, but euro LOL!

Mr Ho
02-16-22, 23:19
True a lot of English people migrated over during the Roman empire which would then make them partially Roman / Italian and there were invasions from Scandanavia into England and the Scandanavian people came from mainland Nortern Germany / Denmark.

And don't forget about the Chicana's in America. Chicanas are Latinas who were born in America thereby making them USA citizens and speak English (not Spanish) of Mexican descent.Like many American people who talk about being real American, but they forgot the real of real American people called Native Indian people, they were the original of them all, but it seems they just cancel them out as if they did not even existed, but hey what they teach you in history class becomes real and it is as bad as some cult religion if you think about it LOL!

Mr Ho
02-17-22, 00:29
So, on March 20th, I just read that Germany is going to lift most of restriction including masks, and it sound same for Switzerland too! Is pandemic almost over and FKK is going to be back to normal for spring already? It looks like for sure be over by this summer, so we are back to normal full mongering mode on full swing by late summer this year or?

Either way, this is good news! Pandemic seems to be over by summer for sure in all sectors including all restrictions! Only thing is entering country without restriction!

McAdonis
02-17-22, 05:23
Often Latin in culture, in more than just language:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Romania?wprov=sfti1

https://www.ijcr.eu/articole/180_30_pdf_IJCR%202-2014.pdfThe academic source you posted seems to use "Roman" and "Latin" interchangeably, and so he is establishing a link to the ancient Romans as opposed to modern-day Italian, Spanish, and French. The other "island of Latinity in a Slavic sea" source you posted, also on the same page says:


Modern Romanian culture visibly reflects a tremendous amount of Eastern European influences. In addition, Romanian culture shares several similarities with other ancient cultures, such as that of the Armenians.Romania was cut-off from the other Latin-speaking world between 500-800 AD. This would have been the period of Vulgar Latin, spoken between 100 BC-700 AD. But 38 percent of Romanian vocabulary comes NOT from Vulgar Latin but from French. And these French words have all been acquired since the 19th century. We have to understand that France, in the age of Napoleon, was the "greatest country on earth". When Ottoman influence waned, Romanians desperately wanted to modernize (and westernize). So they made an active attempt to distance themselves from the Balkans, Slavs, and Hungarians and reconnect with their distant linguistic cousins: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_language.

Romanian's food, music, religion are completely different to the other countries that fall under Latin Europe. The last 1000 years of history is also completely different. Ottoman occupation, Slavic contact, Communism all shaped the Romanian mentality. In short, the cultures have evolved differently.

Language alone is not sufficient to retain cultural links, especially if geographically isolated over centuries. The Hungarians and Turkish languages arrived from Asia about a thousand years ago. But I am not sure that modern Hungarians or Turks feel much cultural affinity towards Siberian and Central Asian peoples. But I would concede that Hungary is much farther to Ural Mountains than say Bucharest is to Rome.

This is a bit negative, but some of Romania's fascination with Italy, Spain, and France (in the past) may owe to the fact that Romania is a small, poor country that has a history of being pushed around. Speaking with Italians and Romanians living in Italy, Italians seem to downplay the cultural similarities, whereas Romanians do the opposite. That might be partly due to Romanians' inferiority complex or just a way to establish rapport with Italians and seem less foreign.

Italian responding to question: Do Italians and Spaniards feel connected to Romanians since they are Latin?


This is a very common topic which is raised everytime a Romanian meets with an Italian, perhaps in an effort to distinguish themselves from the so-called Eastern block, perceived mostly as a derogatory and backward category.

The short answer however, from this side, is: nope.

https://www.quora.com/Do-Italians-and-Spaniards-feel-connected-to-Romanians-since-they-are-Latin
Romanian responding to the question: Do they feel closer culturally to Italian and Spanish?


I would say we are closest to the Slavic people, from behaviour (public-private, special occasions for example) to food. Even though we have Latin ancestry, I speak from experience that usually, the others, French, Spanish, Italians and Portuguese don't really regard us as family. Some of them are aware of the history, some not. I have met people from all these countries and there are similar traits that I could see, but I wouldn't say they outnumber the similarities we have with the Slavic people. Weirdly enough, most people here tend to associate with or feel closer to the Latin family.

https://www.quora.com/Who-do-the-Romanian-people-feel-closer-to-culturally-Do-they-feel-more-affinity-with-their-Slavic-and-Hungarian-neighbors-or-other-Romance-speaking-peoples-such-as-the-French-Spanish-Italians-and-Portuguese-of

Mr Ho
02-17-22, 05:42
So, on March 20th, I just read that Germany is going to lift most of restriction including masks, and it sound same for Switzerland too! Is pandemic almost over and FKK is going to be back to normal for spring already? It looks like for sure be over by this summer, so we are back to normal full mongering mode on full swing by late summer this year or?

Either way, this is good news! Pandemic seems to be over by summer for sure in all sectors including all restrictions! Only thing is entering country without restriction!Switzerland even more restriction is lifted as of today! Globe line up to be returned soon then! By summer, it will be fully ready if it continue this way!

RabbitFarm
02-17-22, 15:07
As some of you may already know, restaurants and clubs will be operating under 3 G starting on 04.03.

Do FKK clubs also fall under that category?

DrPoon
02-17-22, 21:01
As some of you may already know, restaurants and clubs will be operating under 3 G starting on 04.03.

Do FKK clubs also fall under that category?What is the difference between 2 G plus and 3 G?

Mr Ho
02-17-22, 22:55
As some of you may already know, restaurants and clubs will be operating under 3 G starting on 04.03.

Do FKK clubs also fall under that category?What is 3 G? Is it new Iphone model? LOL!

PaulInZurich
02-18-22, 00:18
McAdonis, that was a very good post about Romanians in general. It's pretty much my experience and the conversations I had with Romanians I know at work.

The Cane
02-18-22, 00:21
What is 3 G? Is it new Iphone model? LOL!I got 5 G bro! So, I'm already past that LOL!

Pistons
02-18-22, 03:00
What is 3 G? Is it new Iphone model? LOL!A tool made up by Schwab and the Davos club:

https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/default/files/vaccination/docs/2019-2022_roadmap_en.pdf

That document was made back in 2018.

Then if you search for digital identity on the wef website, you find all about it's real purpose. Which is totally unrelated to any health issues:

https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1G0X000005JJGcUAO/key-issues/a1G0X000006NuokUAC

Escape Artist
02-18-22, 03:08
The academic source you posted seems to use "Roman" and "Latin" interchangeably, and so he is establishing a link to the ancient Romans as opposed to modern-day Italian, Spanish, and French. The other "island of Latinity in a Slavic sea" source you posted, also on the same page says:

Language alone is not sufficient to retain cultural links, especially if geographically isolated over centuries. The Hungarians and Turkish languages arrived from Asia about a thousand years ago. But I am not sure that modern Hungarians or Turks feel much cultural affinity towards Siberian and Central Asian peoples. But I would concede that Hungary is much farther to Ural Mountains than say Bucharest is to Rome.
Yes Romania is a hodgepodge of multiple cultures but having slavic and other influences does not rule out previous Roman and thus Latin origins which heavily plays into contemporary manifestations. And not or. Me asserting Romanians to be Latin does not denounce Slavic influences, amongst many others. But still, the roots come from the same origin as the other Latin countries. That is quite a worthy consideration.


Romanians desperately wanted to modernize (and westernize). So they made an active attempt to distance themselves from the Balkans, Slavs, and Hungarians and reconnect with their distant linguistic cousins

This is a bit negative, but some of Romania's fascination with Italy, Spain, and France (in the past) may owe to the fact that Romania is a small, poor country that has a history of being pushed around. Speaking with Italians and Romanians living in Italy, Italians seem to downplay the cultural similarities, whereas Romanians do the opposite. That might be partly due to Romanians' inferiority complex or just a way to establish rapport with Italians and seem less foreign.I think these statements actually further adds to their Latin identity, not detracts from it. By choice, they chose to emulate these other cultures. So their intentional will gravitated their culture to align with these western ones despite the regional slavic and turkish influence. That cultural manifestation of the people's deliberate intent is quite real and quite ingrained into modern day Romanian culture.

Combining Latin roots with contemporary desires to emulate the Western Latin countries over the proximal regional cultures as well the high prestige Germanic and Anglican ones, well I think that definitely pushed them squarely in the Latin camp by showing affinity towards Latin cultures over all others. How can the combination of historical roots and modern day deliberate intent not do so?

I'll further add that they are also quite similar to American Latinos, even moreso than their Europeans counterparts. That's likely due to the combination of the Latin roots with poor socioeconomic background as seen in Latin America.

I'll also reiterate the inclusion of Romanians in NYC Latin Culture. There's definitely a reason for that and it's not just language.

https://www.newyorklatinculture.com/latin/european/romanian/?amp

Lastly, albeit anecdotal, I'll draw from my personal experience. I sure do remember a lot of similarities between previous romantic partners. Romanians were quite similar to the Puerto Ricans and even more similar to the Italian-Venezuelan. Ever seen Romanians in a room with (Caucasian) Latinos? Let me tell you, seamless meshing of personalities.

Talk to middle class American Latinos who know middle class Romanians and I guarantee 2 out of 3 will say, "Oh yeah, they're Latin like us."

Mr Ho
02-18-22, 05:39
A tool made up by Schwab and the Davos club:

https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/default/files/vaccination/docs/2019-2022_roadmap_en.pdf

That document was made back in 2018.

Then if you search for digital identity on the wef website, you find all about it's real purpose. Which is totally unrelated to any health issues:

https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1G0X000005JJGcUAO/key-issues/a1G0X000006NuokUACSo it is basically the system that was made to simplify things, but end up making our lives 10 times complicated at least LOL!

Mr Ho
02-18-22, 05:40
I got 5 G bro! So, I'm already past that LOL!I like slow tech just like I always tell the girls in FKK, please fuck me slowly LOL!

RabbitFarm
02-18-22, 09:32
I got 5 G bro! So, I'm already past that LOL!Well I'm still old school and live life under 3 G haha.

But basically 3 G stands for Geimpft, Genesen and Getestet. (Vaccinated, Recovered or Tested). 2 G+ is vaccinated or recovered plus test.

Basically under 3 G you can enter with just a test.

McAdonis
02-18-22, 12:30
Combining Latin roots with contemporary desires to emulate the Western Latin countries over the proximal regional cultures as well the high prestige Germanic and Anglican ones, well I think that definitely pushed them squarely in the Latin camp by showing affinity towards Latin cultures over all others. How can the combination of historical roots and modern day deliberate intent not do so?Modern Romania was a colony of Rome from 106 to 274 AD, almost 170 years. And then the Slavs settled and later the Hungarians, cutting them off from the Latin-speaking world. Only around the 19th century did Romania embrace French culture. I would say on an individual level it is much easier for one to embrace another culture. A White-American kid growing up the suburbs can listen to rap music and embrace Black-American culture. On a population level, I would argue that the acculturation process takes much longer, centuries even, and sometimes never. Bulgarian Empire occupied Transylvanian and Wallachia for 400 years and left indelible Slavic influences, but never assimilated them.

Romanians went from embracing French culture to Spanish and Italian culture in the 1990's. Due to linguistic links, learning Spanish or Italian is easy for them. Similarly, an English speaker can easily learn ebonics, serving as a gateway drug to Black-American culture. There is also a practical reason to de-emphasise French: push-pull factors that encouraged Romanian immigration to Italy and Spain over other countries. If your aunt marries an Italian man, you visit them in the summer or that Italian man finds you a job in Italy. Point is, Romanian is a small, poor, and economically insignificant on the world stage, so they will always have to be cultural chameleons. With YouTube and Netflix, we could easily imagine Romania's younger generation Anglicizing to a certain degree. They won't be forced to watch Spanish novelas on terrestrial TV like there parents were.


I'll also reiterate the inclusion of Romanians in NYC Latin Culture. There's definitely a reason for that and it's not just language.

https://www.newyorklatinculture.com/latin/european/romanian/?amp.The NYC Latin Culture web page seems to just have the goal of being inclusive, so any culture that might have even a tenuous link to the Latin-speaking countries. There are also pages for Trinidadian, West African, Jewish, East Indian, etc.

https://www.newyorklatinculture.com/latin/caribbean/trinidadian/?amp

https://www.newyorklatinculture.com/latin/african/west/?amp

https://www.newyorklatinculture.com/latin/asian/indian/?amp

https://www.newyorklatinculture.com/latin/asian/jewish/?amp


Ever seen Romanians in a room with (Caucasian) Latinos? Let me tell you, seamless meshing of personalities.Yes, I know a Mexican married to a Romanian. That varies from individual to individual. Some people are just social and outgoing and can easily connect with other people. And these traits are present amongst many Latinos and Romanians. Two Scandinavians, fuck two Swedish even, won't necessarily "mesh personalities" right away, despite sharing the same culture, unless there is a lot of alcohol involved. Women, in general of all nationalities, "personality mesh" better since they tend to be more talkative and more socially active. They also share a common bond as immigrants in the USA. A Romanian guy might not immediately mesh with a Latino guy. Romanian would certainly be more stoic (definitely not smiling, but not unfriendly by any means, just Slavic).

Mr Ho
02-18-22, 12:42
McAdonis, that was a very good post about Romanians in general. It's pretty much my experience and the conversations I had with Romanians I know at work.Romanians are actually very hard worker, not when they suck and fuck our dick, but I had cleaning guy in palace Berlin long years ago and he was very professional at making my hotel room in place!

Also when I was in Bucharest even longer years ago, people who served me in hotel etc were very nice and professional! Good people!

Thanks our life that we were and still are lucky enough to be on the receiving end of this Romanian prostitute ring system LOL! Whatever that system maybe, we might as well as enjoy it while it last and before it becomes like Poland where economy got bit better and all of sudden all those polish blonde stunners we had in FKK are all gone! Vanished! Oh they were beautiful blondes from Poland! I hope it won't be the same story with Romanians!

Mr Ho
02-18-22, 13:50
What is the difference between 2 G plus and 3 G?It has better camera LOL!

Pistons
02-18-22, 17:15
So it is basically the system that was made to simplify things, but end up making our lives 10 times complicated at least LOL!Yeah, not sure what's up with that. Some say our alien overlords are deep into nature conservation, thus we all have to use less resources. And this is just one part in looking us up.

Eventually we will all end up as brains in a jar hooked up to some Metaverse where we can control real world robots, animals and even travel to other star systems considering our brain can last longer than our bodies. And get less bored while hooked up to some Matrix fake world. Actually we are just trying to recreate what has already happened.

But the other side of this is that it will remove the only argument the anti p6 feminazies have against our hobby: since with this new system anyone trying to abused or oppress the girls will get instantly caught.

We just got to make sure women turn really slutty in the process, so that they will recruit themselves. This is where I disagree with the religions the most. But at least Instagram and Onlyfans might move us in this direction. Let's just see what will happen with this new Metaverse virtual reality thingy. It could be the end of our hobby, or a new beginning. But let's at least not spend money on silly camgirls. That business there is the worst!

Pistons
02-18-22, 17:23
At the moment though, I feel Facebook at least is trying to bet on something almost 10 years early.

The BMI is not there and a part of the headsets. The professors and memory connects are not good enough, and probably the global infrastructure is not there either. But its all in the pipeline and ready when the market allows it to.

Schwab and the gang was probably the ones pushing Facebook to bet on their metaverse also. Though Nvidia has a better more unable version ATM.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/01/building-inclusive-metaverse-must-start-now/

Pistons
02-18-22, 17:33
Currently though, with outside of the skulle interface we can only get sub 80% up / down connection to the brain.

https://youtu.be/SiO9PIMSYrw

And if we aren't even using wearables, that falls down to about 70% with the new lasars in modern 5 G phones.

This is why I think the tiny modem chips are made through a process from the vaccines. In order to get us closer to 100% connection. It is funny when in that first video I linked he even mentions mind control. But laughs at the idea that mind control is not even at the top of our concerns regarding this new tech.

Pistons
02-18-22, 17:42
Imagine being able to hack every individual you meet. Like using Jedi Mind tricks on them. That is essentially what is technically possible. If not yet with 5 G, then surely with 6 G, 7 G or 8 G.

And with something like 8 G, using zenneck wave technology, we can even create buildings, and anything we want out of thin air through the use of foglets. So anyone not considering playing restrictions on people before this new tech will arrive in 20 or 30 years is objectively a bit mad. But Schwab won't tell you about that side of the story. He wants to be one of the few gods I suspect.

Mr Ho
02-19-22, 00:06
Imagine being able to hack every individual you meet. Like using Jedi Mind tricks on them. That is essentially what is technically possible. If not yet with 5 G, then surely with 6 G, 7 G or 8 G.

And with something like 8 G, using zenneck wave technology, we can even create buildings, and anything we want out of thin air through the use of foglets. So anyone not considering playing restrictions on people before this new tech will arrive in 20 or 30 years is objectively a bit mad. But Schwab won't tell you about that side of the story. He wants to be one of the few gods I suspect.All I imagine is not hack everyone I meet, but I imagine to penetrate all the beautiful stunners I meet in German and swiss FKK and some escorts LOL!

Pistons
02-19-22, 02:30
All I imagine is not hack everyone I meet, but I imagine to penetrate all the beautiful stunners I meet in German and swiss FKK and some escorts LOL!Sure, but what if some Chinese or Russian hacker rather wants to turn everyone here gay? LOL.

Escape Artist
02-19-22, 03:51
Modern Romania was a colony of Rome from 106 to 274 AD, almost 170 years. And then the Slavs settled and later the Hungarians, cutting them off from the Latin-speaking world. Only around the 19th century did Romania embrace French culture. I would say on an individual level it is much easier for one to embrace another culture. A White-American kid growing up the suburbs can listen to rap music and embrace Black-American culture. On a population level, I would argue that the acculturation process takes much longer, centuries even, and sometimes never. Bulgarian Empire occupied Transylvanian and Wallachia for 400 years and left indelible Slavic influences, but never assimilated them.As mentioned, I'm not discounting the Slavic influence. But I think the influences of Rome versus Gothic / Slavic / Hun influence weigh quite differently. Rome was an organized concept, others were tribal / ethnic occupation. The "civilized" core people of the time were the latin speaking core. Much like how organized high school and university has more influence on a person's individual core than future decades of random adulthood experiences, including parenthood.

Key phrase of yours, assimilated.


Romanians went from embracing French culture to Spanish and Italian culture in the 1990's. Due to linguistic links, learning Spanish or Italian is easy for them. Similarly, an English speaker can easily learn ebonics, serving as a gateway drug to Black-American culture. There is also a practical reason to de-emphasise French: push-pull factors that encouraged Romanian immigration to Italy and Spain over other countries. If your aunt marries an Italian man, you visit them in the summer or that Italian man finds you a job in Italy. Point is, Romanian is a small, poor, and economically insignificant on the world stage, so they will always have to be cultural chameleons. With YouTube and Netflix, we could easily imagine Romania's younger generation Anglicizing to a certain degree. They won't be forced to watch Spanish novelas on terrestrial TV like there parents were.All true but still, staying in the Latin sphere is the key point. Whatever the reason, be it inferiority or whatever, it does not matter, they willingly gravitate to other Latin cultures and are / prefer being influenced by them.


The NYC Latin Culture web page seems to just have the goal of being inclusive, so any culture that might have even a tenuous link to the Latin-speaking countries. There are also pages for Trinidadian, West African, Jewish, East Indian, etc.True, they use overly loose associations to qualify as Latin.


Yes, I know a Mexican married to a Romanian. That varies from individual to individual. Some people are just social and outgoing and can easily connect with other people. And these traits are present amongst many Latinos and Romanians. Two Scandinavians, fuck two Swedish even, won't necessarily "mesh personalities" right away, despite sharing the same culture, unless there is a lot of alcohol involved. Women, in general of all nationalities, "personality mesh" better since they tend to be more talkative and more socially active. They also share a common bond as immigrants in the USA. A Romanian guy might not immediately mesh with a Latino guy. Romanian would certainly be more stoic (definitely not smiling, but not unfriendly by any means, just Slavic).Well that is definitely one pretty strong distinction that pushes latino and Romanians closer together and separates them from Anglo people. Randomly, I think the stoic Romanian image is a bit of a facade and most certainly a fading image. These dudes aren't hard and don't really seem to be trying to be, at least not the new gen. It's not what I've observed when seeing at these dudes on the Ro girl's Snaps and "Live" stories.

But in the end, what's your main point (of contention/challenge)? That Romanians should be considered more Slavic than Latin? That they're neither Slavic or Latin?

Mr Ho
02-19-22, 04:56
Sure, but what if some Chinese or Russian hacker rather wants to turn everyone here gay? LOL.I have way too much testosterone to turn gay, but there is something about stunner beautiful girls anal LOL!

Pistons
02-19-22, 23:55
I have way too much testosterone to turn gay, but there is something about stunner beautiful girls anal LOL!Dude,

I recall once this Asian guy at Artemis who just refused to stop asking me if I knew of a girl there who would finger his ass. I first refusert to answer since I feared some girls would listen. But after 10 questions I budged and mentioned a girl. Unfortunately all the girls in the room heard me as it was early in the day, and the girl I mentioned refused to even look at me afterwards. From what I am told by several girls, maybe half of all the men, especially Asians likes a finger up their but. Some even prefers that instead of sex.

Mr Ho
02-20-22, 07:09
Dude,

I recall once this Asian guy at Artemis who just refused to stop asking me if I knew of a girl there who would finger his ass. I first refusert to answer since I feared some girls would listen. But after 10 questions I budged and mentioned a girl. Unfortunately all the girls in the room heard me as it was early in the day, and the girl I mentioned refused to even look at me afterwards. From what I am told by several girls, maybe half of all the men, especially Asians likes a finger up their but. Some even prefers that instead of sex.Ah, so that is why I often get asked that as I wrote here before LOL!

It is not my thing though, I do like their tongue up my ass, but not the finger, FKK is not airport or prison LOL! I am not that level of hentai yet, but I am hentai enough to fly across the world just to fuck LOL!

Pistons
02-20-22, 21:33
Ah, so that is why I often get asked that as I wrote here before LOL!

It is not my thing though, I do like their tongue up my ass, but not the finger, FKK is not airport or prison LOL! I am not that level of hentai yet, but I am hentai enough to fly across the world just to fuck LOL!How is tongue different from finger from the guys pov? On a strictly hygienic level from the girls pov, tongue should be worse?

Mr Ho
02-21-22, 03:40
How is tongue different from finger from the guys pov? On a strictly hygienic level from the girls pov, tongue should be worse?It is physically softer and wet!

Mentally, it is more enhancing for me in my head!

So tongue provide dual or even multiple benefit for me LOL!

Please, do not try to understand each hentai fetishes, some like drilling anal, some like tongue on anal etc LOL! It is all wonderful secret world of hentai where it may sound dark, but shit man, we hentai found the garden of eden LOL!

Pistons
02-21-22, 15:23
It is physically softer and wet!

Mentally, it is more enhancing for me in my head!

So tongue provide dual or even multiple benefit for me LOL!

Please, do not try to understand each hentai fetishes, some like drilling anal, some like tongue on anal etc LOL! It is all wonderful secret world of hentai where it may sound dark, but shit man, we hentai found the garden of eden LOL!How about tentacles? What are the positives with a tentacle compared to other things?

Mr Ho
02-22-22, 00:31
How about tentacles? What are the positives with a tentacle compared to other things?Define tentacles, but I tend to like just mouth and tongue rimming, I do not fancy other thing up my ass, like I said FKK is not airport on the worst day or prison LOL!

Pistons
02-22-22, 15:56
Define tentacles, but I tend to like just mouth and tongue rimming, I do not fancy other thing up my ass, like I said FKK is not airport on the worst day or prison LOL!LA Blue Girl?

Smoke Light
02-22-22, 22:51
Frankfurter Allgemeine: Europa bereitet sich auf eine FLchtlingswelle vor (Europe is preparing for a wave of refugees from Ukraine).

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise-europa-bereitet-sich-auf-viele-fluechtlinge-vor-17822665.html

Yay!

Pistons
02-23-22, 04:21
I am not sure I totally agree on that logic McA. It does have some truth to it. But the Italians probably distance themselves more due to economic issues than cultural ones. Considering Romania got caught up with Russia and all of that.

Moldavia was also a big country for a long time, and not bullied as much. At least not until Russia and the transnistria story came to be. And that can be considered Romania too. Culturally and linguistically.

There were clear historic links with a lot of romans settling in Dacia during the roman empire. But of course genetics usually only shows where someone take the brides from. Not where the culturally imposing male armies arrive from.

Mr Ho
02-23-22, 06:41
Frankfurter Allgemeine: Europa bereitet sich auf eine FLchtlingswelle vor (Europe is preparing for a wave of refugees from Ukraine).

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise-europa-bereitet-sich-auf-viele-fluechtlinge-vor-17822665.html..Something I have been saying here for long time LOL! But what is the numbers? From middle east, it was in millions, I hope Germany accept at least one million refugees from Ukraine, then we got the line up made for next decade or two LOL!

Clodius1
02-23-22, 12:46
Frankfurter Allgemeine: Europa bereitet sich auf eine FLchtlingswelle vor (Europe is preparing for a wave of refugees from Ukraine).

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise-europa-bereitet-sich-auf-viele-fluechtlinge-vor-17822665.html

Yay!Once the Ukrainian hotties reach Poland, DE is just a hop skip and jump away from FKK.

Sirioja
02-23-22, 13:17
Once the Ukrainian hotties reach Poland, DE is just a hop skip and jump away from FKK.But need a registration number according to new German law. Some German girls left business or Germany because of this.

DrPoon
02-23-22, 13:21
Frankfurter Allgemeine: Europa bereitet sich auf eine FLchtlingswelle vor (Europe is preparing for a wave of refugees from Ukraine).

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise-europa-bereitet-sich-auf-viele-fluechtlinge-vor-17822665.html..Hopefully the Ukrainian men can shoot the Russian men until they run out of ammo and a lot of extra single women will remain.

DukesFord
02-23-22, 16:18
I tried doing a search, but couldn't find any boards. I remember 2-3 boards but for the love of FKK Land, can't find them. Any help would be appreciated.

Chris1791
02-23-22, 17:16
Frankfurter Allgemeine: Europa bereitet sich auf eine FLchtlingswelle vor (Europe is preparing for a wave of refugees from Ukraine).

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise-europa-bereitet-sich-auf-viele-fluechtlinge-vor-17822665.html

Yay!This is great timing, I'm off to FKK land again on the 5th /6th March.

Do you think the new girls will be in the right state of mind having just come from a war zone?

Pistons
02-23-22, 18:23
I tried doing a search, but couldn't find any boards. I remember 2-3 boards but for the love of FKK Land, can't find them. Any help would be appreciated.Lustscout, Freiercafe and Ijsberenforum. Though the last one is a Dutch one, I think there was a German version of it too at one point. But I could be wrong.

BigBuddy69
02-23-22, 23:07
Lustscout, Freiercafe and Ijsberenforum. Though the last one is a Dutch one, I think there was a German version of it too at one point. But I could be wrong.Actually no, for once you tell the truth, it's called Eisbaerenforum.com but it's rather deserted.

Downandup
02-24-22, 08:40
I tried doing a search, but couldn't find any boards. I remember 2-3 boards but for the love of FKK Land, can't find them. Any help would be appreciated.Also:

http://www.rheinforum.com

https://bordellcommunity.com/

https://www.roemerforum.com/

DukesFord
02-25-22, 18:35
Thanks everyone! I'll be permanently book marking these!

Mr Ho
02-28-22, 14:34
And EU is considering it seriously due to the situation!

Wow, what we talked about is becoming real, so what we wish for become true in life!

Sirioja
02-28-22, 23:01
When we have already poor Romania and Bulgaria in EU, Ukraine is not planned to enter EU, but they are heroic to fight versus dirty Tsar and even poor, but they would deserve more than Erdogan.

AMonger123
03-01-22, 00:36
Sorry if I'm posting in wrong place. I'm flying from Turkey to USA in coming weeks. Want to visit an FKK in Europe on the way. I can schedule the stop anywhere. Now with the covid rules, is Germany still my best place for FKK experience and would you rather recommend Sharks or rather another club? Thanks.

Downandup
03-01-22, 08:49
And EU is considering it seriously due to the situation!

Wow, what we talked about is becoming real, so what we wish for become true in life!Maybe but these things take years, it could be fast tracked in about five.

DrPoon
03-01-22, 08:52
And EU is considering it seriously due to the situation!

Wow, what we talked about is becoming real, so what we wish for become true in life!The news reports already 530,000 women have moved out of Ukraine to Poland. Each one is given a 3 year no questions asked residence permit. There was a video of two German guys who were driving women to Germany. However this video reports that Blacks were discriminated against.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoG5BlCRAoY

Mr Ho
03-01-22, 11:43
Maybe but these things take years, it could be fast tracked in about five.I know, but I am very patient monger who can wait for hours, literally really hours till right stunner walk in to main bar for her shift in FKK, so I can wait for years till Ukrainian stunners will walk in to German FKK!

Collecting next level sexual memories with most beautiful young stunner girls is one of my main ikigai the purpose of life in my life! So still I crawl!

Mr Ho
03-02-22, 00:31
The news reports already 530,000 women have moved out of Ukraine to Poland. Each one is given a 3 year no questions asked residence permit. There was a video of two German guys who were driving women to Germany. However this video reports that Blacks were discriminated against.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoG5BlCRAoYThey should prepare special desks for foreigner living in and foreign students studying in Ukraine including African people as these black people you mention are students mostly!

Mr Ho
03-02-22, 00:33
The news reports already 530,000 women have moved out of Ukraine to Poland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoG5BlCRAoYPoland has no FKK, some of them have to be granted pass to Germany! But best scenario is to Ukraine to join EU as it seems that can happen due to special circumstances now!

Sirioja
03-02-22, 20:10
When we have already poor Romania and Bulgaria in EU, Ukraine is not planned to enter EU, but they are heroic to fight versus dirty Tsar and even poor, but they would deserve more than Erdogan.When they deserve despite poor, but Ukraine should not enter EU, too dangerous about crazy paranoiac dirty smelling civilians deaths shameful Tsar.

Mr Ho
03-04-22, 03:06
I found two nights in a row of amazing mongering with Eurasians, how can one do not monger or stop mongering, these guys have some serious preference of life issue as human as it is human nature to have lust, but preferably much better to conduct it with stunner level beauties than ugly women!

Mongering done well is the best thing ever!

Wanking
03-06-22, 11:31
Poland has no FKK, some of them have to be granted pass to Germany! But best scenario is to Ukraine to join EU as it seems that can happen due to special circumstances now!Yeah hopefully some Ukrainian women in Fkks in the next few months.

Although there used to loads of Polish in the German sex scene upto maybe 2010 and they all disappeared.

Partytreff Dorsten was a real sexual oasis of beautiful blonde Polish girls from around 2000 to 2010 even if the service was mostly crap.

Mr Ho
03-06-22, 12:51
Yeah hopefully some Ukrainian women in Fkks in the next few months.

Although there used to loads of Polish in the German sex scene upto maybe 2010 and they all disappeared.

Partytreff Dorsten was a real sexual oasis of beautiful blonde Polish girls from around 2000 to 2010 even if the service was mostly crap.I got to taste among the last line up of polish girls in early 2010's in Artemis, gosh some of these polish girls were beauty! I remember one Paris Hilton look a like polish blonde that I fucked still! Their economy improved, so they no longer have to suck dicks for 50 euro!

As for Ukrainian girls, I think it will take some time till some of them get to FKK main bar, I would say one year, but more like 2 to 3 years! They will try to do normal jobs first I think, and it will also take some time till some kind of system to send Ukrainian girls to FKK first, which takes few years!

I hope Romanian system will be installed to every single Easter European nations that are struggling economically!

SvenFKK
03-08-22, 14:52
Although there used to loads of Polish in the German sex scene upto maybe 2010 and they all disappeared.

Partytreff Dorsten was a real sexual oasis of beautiful blonde Polish girls from around 2000 to 2010 even if the service was mostly crap.I went there a few times from about 2005. The first time I was there still holds some records: about 25 or 30 beautiful young girls, mostly Polish, and I managed to come 13 times. Most were sessions with two girls at a time, which was the norm then. Yes, the goal is to get you off faster, but after having come a few times, I didn't have the problem of finishing too quickly. Usually oral without but no CIM and vaginal sex with, but I did manage one session with a girl alone in the gazebo who allowed CIM.

Around the time that ended, I discovered Partytreff Dorsten. Not as many girls but a different vibe. Most girls were German and all had grown up in Germany, and many were genuine nymphomaniacs. Although apart from the fact that she was tall she really wasn't my type, my many sessions with Ute (usually about an hour each, usually at least twice per visit) are still the best sex I've ever had.

Does anyone know where she is now?

JoeThighsMan
03-08-22, 17:51
Were you producing anything after 10 orgasms? Just a cloud of dust?

Ute from 2005 could be a married housewife with 4 kids by now.

GuyBrusg1957
03-09-22, 05:22
What are the best FKKs around Frankfurt? It it mostly limited too FKK Sharks, Oase and Mainhattan? Am I missing anything?

Sirioja
03-09-22, 06:15
What are the best FKKs around Frankfurt? It it mostly limited too FKK Sharks, Oase and Mainhattan? Am I missing anything?Also Palace, Rom, World, Village, Worms. So many choices.

Mr Ho
03-09-22, 06:40
Are there any restriction to enter FKK, restaurants or cafe in Germany? Vaccine proof, pcr or mask etc?

Neurosynth
03-09-22, 07:25
What are the best FKKs around Frankfurt? It it mostly limited too FKK Sharks, Oase and Mainhattan? Am I missing anything?FKK-Dietzenbach is easy to reach by train and a short walk. Inexpensive bareback. Quality definitely not stunners. And I was last there pre-COVID. Not sure if they've recovered. Some put it down, but it's unique in the area and worth a try, especially if you will be there more than one day.

The Cane
03-09-22, 12:39
I got to taste among the last line up of polish girls in early 2010's in Artemis, gosh some of these polish girls were beauty! I remember one Paris Hilton look a like polish blonde that I fucked still! Their economy improved, so they no longer have to suck dicks for 50 euro!

As for Ukrainian girls, I think it will take some time till some of them get to FKK main bar, I would say one year, but more like 2 to 3 years! They will try to do normal jobs first I think, and it will also take some time till some kind of system to send Ukrainian girls to FKK first, which takes few years!

I hope Romanian system will be installed to every single Easter European nations that are struggling economically!As we enter the post-pandemic period, I think the issue for some time is going to be line-up quality. It's going to take some time for line-ups to get back up to strength. I will say a year at least. And yes, we can eventually expect lots of hot Ukrainians to be on offer. My measuring sticks are Artemis, Palace, and Oase. When I'm reading good stuff about those "platforms", then I will know it will be worth my time and money to return to "Germongery."

Mr Ho
03-09-22, 14:24
What are the best FKKs around Frankfurt? It it mostly limited too FKK Sharks, Oase and Mainhattan? Am I missing anything?Palace and world! But I hear world is not good!

Neurosynth
03-10-22, 00:39
I understand that for most women working as a prostitute is something of a forced choice. And pervs like me benefit from that.

But there has to be a line which should not be crossed.

And I find discussion of how the slaughter in Ukraine might yield fresh sex meat for us to be quite disgusting.

Tintin1
03-10-22, 01:11
return to "Germongery."Good one! Can I borrow that phrase or do I have to pay a license every time I use it ha ha.

DrPoon
03-10-22, 06:25
I understand that for most women working as a prostitute is something of a forced choice. And pervs like me benefit from that.

But there has to be a line which should not be crossed.

And I find discussion of how the slaughter in Ukraine might yield fresh sex meat for us to be quite disgusting.I find it disgusting they are not letting men from 18-60 leave. This violates equal protection and gender discrimination. What if a man 18-60 had an FKK visit planned and suddenly he is trapped in Ukraine due to President Z?

Sirioja
03-10-22, 07:42
I understand that for most women working as a prostitute is something of a forced choice. And pervs like me benefit from that.

But there has to be a line which should not be crossed.

And I find discussion of how the slaughter in Ukraine might yield fresh sex meat for us to be quite disgusting.I fully agree when mostly mothers who try to protect their children, when many fathers will be killed by dirty shameful dictator ready to kill babies. Even poor, but Ukraine deserve to be welcome by EU, when their courage is a protection for Eastern EU, when Poland, Moldavia and Romania have to worry if Ukraine return in USSR. Send stingers and milan to Ukrainians to kill bad Russian quality mig. At least, even too many killed, but we can see bad quality for Russian material, same like for Chinese production.

Mr Ho
03-10-22, 11:19
As we enter the post-pandemic period, I think the issue for some time is going to be line-up quality. It's going to take some time for line-ups to get back up to strength. I will say a year at least. And yes, we can eventually expect lots of hot Ukrainians to be on offer. My measuring sticks are Artemis, Palace, and Oase. When I'm reading good stuff about those "platforms", then I will know it will be worth my time and money to return to "Germongery."I will stick to those 3 clubs as well, but I will also add Globe to it, but anal lover that you are, that place is not for you!

I think by end of this summer or autumn, the line up is back!

Sirioja
03-10-22, 20:47
I find it disgusting they are not letting men from 18-60 leave. This violates equal protection and gender discrimination. What if a man 18-60 had an FKK visit planned and suddenly he is trapped in Ukraine due to President Z?Ukrainian men are impressive for courage, when most are not soldiers but want to fight for their country, when Putin is just a shameful liar, small dick, staying in his warm office, killing children, sending young Russians like meat to kill, when most want and ask to return home. I think he lost war, even he can keep on killing. Wake up wonderful Russia and get rid of your bald shame.

Mr Ho
03-10-22, 23:08
I find it disgusting they are not letting men from 18-60 leave. This violates equal protection and gender discrimination. What if a man 18-60 had an FKK visit planned and suddenly he is trapped in Ukraine due to President Z?We mongers are what we are and we still going to fuck their girls in FKK when we see them in FKK, whether we like it or not, we mongers are bandit too! The reality of life!

Rocky V
03-11-22, 10:49
We mongers are what we are and we still going to fuck their girls in FKK when we see them in FKK, whether we like it or not, we mongers are bandit too! The reality of life!And we only use our natural gun!

Mr Ho
03-11-22, 13:17
So the Flying Monger Ho AKA 50 Euro seemed to survived out of Covid19 pandemic without getting covid19 and without getting poisoned by toxic vaccines that is not tested properly for mid to long term safety!

Now, this year I already fucked 3 stunner level Eurasians here and Flying Monger Ho AKA 50 Euro is back to the game!

I plan to make my way to Zurich sometime in late summer this year to fuck some European stunners!

Serious, there are no better feeling than fucking new young beautiful stunner that you just met LOL!

2022 is going to be good year and there is no stopping Flying Monger Ho AKA 50 Euro with Levitra on his hand!

Mr Ho
03-11-22, 23:56
And we only use our natural gun!We do not make love and peace, but we buy love and peace for 50 euro per 30 min LOL!

We get the best part of the whole supply chain of young beautiful stunners! Not much efforts are put in, but we pay 50 euro to eliminate all the hassle, but the get the best result!

DrPoon
03-12-22, 03:52
How can the rest of us get in on the Eurasian girl action? Where are they located and what are there rates?

Can people see them if non vaccinated?


So the Flying Monger Ho AKA 50 Euro seemed to survived out of Covid19 pandemic without getting covid19 and without getting poisoned by toxic vaccines that is not tested properly for mid to long term safety!

Now, this year I already fucked 3 stunner level Eurasians here and Flying Monger Ho AKA 50 Euro is back to the game!

I plan to make my way to Zurich sometime in late summer this year to fuck some European stunners!

Serious, there are no better feeling than fucking new young beautiful stunner that you just met LOL!

2022 is going to be good year and there is no stopping Flying Monger Ho AKA 50 Euro with Levitra on his hand!

Sirioja
03-12-22, 09:43
How can the rest of us get in on the Eurasian girl action? Where are they located and what are there rates?

Can people see them if non vaccinated?For my experience, Asian Russian escorts, but their little bird moanings make me feel uncomfortable, feeling to be with little girls, not women, when I love when girls feel what will happen, so they usually close eyes, then You see belly moving, breathe going faster, sometimes chicken skin or nipples or clit hardening, honey fluid, nails in your arms. Most real is when no porn noises.

Mr Ho
03-12-22, 10:41
How can the rest of us get in on the Eurasian girl action? Where are they located and what are there rates?

Can people see them if non vaccinated?I am not vaccinated either, but escort has been open even during pandemic!

You find them now and then in delivery health service which is basically escort service in Japan, you are only legally allowed to do all sexual thing, but intercourse with penis into pussy, but often I managed to convince them to go all the way! Eurasian stunners are hard to find though! Sex industry is very closed to foreigners in Japan though!

I once found half Vietnamese and half German stunner in Artemis, and usually I do not go with any Asians when I am in German FKK, but that one I took it as she was too beautiful to ignore!

I guess in both nations, one got to be lucky to find stunner level mixed Eurasian girls LOL!

DrPoon
03-12-22, 18:23
I am not vaccinated either, but escort has been open even during pandemic!

You find them now and then in delivery health service which is basically escort service in Japan, you are only legally allowed to do all sexual thing, but intercourse with penis into pussy, but often I managed to convince them to go all the way! Eurasian stunners are hard to find though! Sex industry is very closed to foreigners in Japan though!

I once found half Vietnamese and half German stunner in Artemis, and usually I do not go with any Asians when I am in German FKK, but that one I took it as she was too beautiful to ignore!

I guess in both nations, one got to be lucky to find stunner level mixed Eurasian girls LOL!So a non Japanese guy can't go to the delivery health? What is the logic in that when a lot of Asian girls open up massage parlors in the USA but if you directly to the source then you are denied service?

The Cane
03-12-22, 19:27
We do not make love and peace, but we buy love and peace for 50 euro per 30 min LOL!Maybe you buy "peace", but brother Cane buys a "piece". Aaahahaha!

Neurosynth
03-12-22, 20:16
Originally Posted by MrHo.

"without getting poisoned by toxic vaccines that is not tested properly for mid to long term safety!

And where exactly did you become an expert on such matters? Please restrict these dangerous lies to the appropriate thread. "Rants and WTF. Etc".

Mr Ho
03-12-22, 22:53
Maybe you buy "peace", but brother Cane buys a "piece". Aaahahaha!I like your rhyming technique LOL! We buy piece to gain our peace that is right LOL!

Finally, it looks like we mongers are back this year! It has been awhile to be in FKK! For me the last was Feb. 2020 in globe right before the pandemic lock down was the last! But me being in globe by pure coincidence right before the lock down must shows that the luck of mongering stunners is on my side LOL! I am back fully here for Eurasian, I do not self restrict myself that much, but I do pay some cautions as there still are Omicron out there! But symptom of that seems mild on most people, I won't take chance on it though and try to avoid getting it as I almost made it through pandemic without getting it or vaccinated!

Mr Ho
03-12-22, 23:03
So a non Japanese guy can't go to the delivery health? What is the logic in that when a lot of Asian girls open up massage parlors in the USA but if you directly to the source then you are denied service?You can, but some of them no you cannot, it is depend which ones and many best ones no.

This is to avoid problems, here people do not like problems and there have been some cases where some foreigners cause problems and try to treat girls rough, plus the language barrier among other things! Also they can make good business catering to domestic market, so they do not take risk to get foreign visitors market as for them the good products which are the top girls that are important first as they bring in enough clients anyways!

As for massage parlors by Asians in USA, mostly they are Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai etc, but not Japanese at least most are not as our country is not poor, so we do not have to go all the way to USA to do that, but if they want, they can do it here and do it more safely.

However, due to high demand, some delivery health and soap land began opening up bit more to foreign visitors. But no worry, unless you like Japanese girls like Nocilas Cage, there are not many stunner Eurasians, I find about 2 to 5 or 6 max per year! And I look for them everyday LOL! When I find it is top level though! So you are not missing out a lot, just a bit!

It is changing though, I see many more mixed blood now here than ever as my country is finally opening up the immigration and many foreigners are beginning to migrate for better quality of life and social security! So I see more Eurasian stunners now and will increase as we advance into future!

We are also taking in many Ukrainian refugees as well because we have many IT hub in Ukraine, and they are educated, no problem causing and good workers who do not cause issues, so our government announce to take Ukrainian refugees and now planning to send planes to Poland and making package offer to them! It is good news for me too for future Eurasian and above all, I think these people deserve to be in more peaceful place where they can focus on their life and work!

DrPoon
03-13-22, 01:17
Alex J. Reports that Russians in Germany are denied treatment at hospitals and doctors offices:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/facebook-allows-threats-against-russians-as-german-hospitals-deny-them-treatment/

Neurosynth
03-13-22, 09:35
Alex J. Reports that Russians in Germany are denied treatment at hospitals and doctors offices:

https://www.infowars.com/posts/facebook-allows-threats-against-russians-as-german-hospitals-deny-them-treatment/Infowars is a fake conspiracy site with the real agenda being professional grifter Alex Jones selling scam health products.

BigBuddy69
03-13-22, 11:19
Infowars is a fake conspiracy site with the real agenda being professional grifter Alex Jones selling scam health products.Yeah at least he could use some real Russian propaganda like Sputnik or Russia Today. I know the Kremlin created recently a real propaganda website about their invasion of Ukraine (denazification, bio weapons and all the usual crap) but I can't find it now.

Pistons
03-13-22, 15:49
Infowars is a fake conspiracy site with the real agenda being professional grifter Alex Jones selling scam health products.I admire your constructivity here, but you are saying that a claimed conspiracy theory news site is a conspiracy of its own? Doesn't that make you a conspiracy theorist too?

In order to give you a recent propaganda history lessons here. This anecdote there is why the term fake news was brought up. Simply naming something a conspiracy, or a conspiracy theory by the ruling establishment had some loopholes in it when entering the digital information age. Fake news is claimed to not have those loopholes. Though smart people know how fake news is just operated and paid for by the same old info gurus. Not everyone is allowed to stake out how a word is meant to be used. Though some of us don't give a s.

What is fake and what is not fake is usually a matter of context, and political motifs. It's especially fun when AI starts writing news stories. Since they are objective based on human history. But can be very much against the current political norm. Thus its labelled as fake news. But objectivly its as correct as it can be based on human history, and the average context. Or sum of all parts.

Pistons
03-13-22, 17:09
The main issue I have with conspiracy theorists and conspiracy theories in general is that they all assume, or are blamed to assume that the people making the initial decisions actually knew what they were up to. My stance is always that they either were stupid (or dumb), or that they were just experimenting. Knowing how little they actually knew. In the later case it may still be a conspiracy. But in general, knowing how narcissistic people in power usually are, the chances of it being stupidity are thus increasingly higher.

Turgid
03-13-22, 17:14
....This is to avoid problems, here people do not like problems and there have been some cases where some foreigners cause problems and try to treat girls rough, plus the language barrier....Plus inappropriate dick size?

The Cane
03-13-22, 17:23
Plus the language barrier among other things!With all of the language apps these days, this is a non-issue. Hell, Google Translate now even gives audio translations!

Sirioja
03-13-22, 19:32
With all of the language apps these days, this is a non-issue. Hell, Google Translate now even gives audio translations!Can gogol help elephant with small pussies? When free, at night at Sharks, I try to choose elephant room.

Mr Ho
03-14-22, 00:05
Plus inappropriate dick size?No, that is not an issue and that is rather racial bias, we have big dick here too including myself, but for anal it can be an issue for dick size and this is the odd thing, anal is allowed legally, but not pussy intercourse and only legally allowed in so called soap land for pussy intercourse, the legal argument is that they went to bath house soap land to wash and fell in love and that is grey, but with delivery health, it is illegal for pussy intercourse, but it happen to some of us if negotiate, but they just do not want some foreigners being too pushy or aggressive even without manner and politeness as there is some point where monger have to back off, but some foreign cultures do not have such culture and they keep on pushing it etc, there is reason why foreigners are not allowed in some top places.

Mr Ho
03-14-22, 00:15
With all of the language apps these days, this is a non-issue. Hell, Google Translate now even gives audio translations!Right, but the agencies especially the top ones try to protect top girls as they are the cash machine for them and clients are endless, so it is more sellers market than buyers market for top girls. And these girls are not in poverty, they just do it for easy big cash, so they tend to quit fast when things are annoying or hard for them etc as they have other choices to make money like work in girls bar etc.

Unless one like Japanese girls specifically like some actually do only like Japanese girls instead of other Asians, Japan is not good place for monger if you are not Japanese and even for me, I tend to love Eurasian so I got lucky here for that, but I only find some every year! But this situation for me is expected to get better as we begin to open door for immigration slowly, but we are trying to learn from the mistake of Europe and try to only get good immigrants as possible, and for Ukraine immigrant due to our ties for IT industry as Ukraine has good cheap IT labor and also they are educated, well behaved in general and non problem causing people in general, we are making move, so it will add to line up for me let say in 20 years time or so for my Eurasian line up in Tokyo! Mongers have to think ahead to future LOL!

One thing that is lacking is top white girls escort here because for top models we have so many here young ones because they tend to want to come to Tokyo first to begin their career as it is better money than Europe and we do not try to push them to escort like they do in Milan and Paris etc, and it is good for their cv to be accepted in Tokyo as Japan is bigger market for fashion than European nations, we had some real famous ones like Miranda carr who began her career here or Cameron Diaz who began her career before she pursue to be Hollywood actress, but unlike in Europe or USA, these girls make enough money modeling here from beginning and also they are well protected by agencies here that they do not do escort here! It is too bad the these top quality girls are here, but not on mongering schene!

Mr Ho
03-14-22, 00:23
The main issue I have with conspiracy theorists and conspiracy theories in general is that they all assume, or are blamed to assume that the people making the initial decisions actually knew what they were up to. My stance is always that they either were stupid (or dumb), or that they were just experimenting. Knowing how little they actually knew. In the later case it may still be a conspiracy. But in general, knowing how narcissistic people in power usually are, the chances of it being stupidity are thus increasingly higher.My stance on conspiracy theories is this: The biggest trick devil ever pulled was convince you that they do not exist!

People do scheme you know LOL! The whole business world is built on conspiracies and also all our society, it is important to keep order!

Like look, I am more life experienced and international than most of posters here, I know world better because simply I travel more since young age, saw different cultures and experienced many things around the world both in west and east and other places, but many posters here are so opinionated with social and racial bias and it show their upbringing of how they got opinionated by something they have been brainwashed to believe and these guys tend to be very narrow minded! Many white people are like that and I do believe in G7, but they also have to believe that the days of white domination is long over and the world is more international and globalized, but some people who do not know the world tend to still believe in social and racial bias still LOL!

The Cane
03-14-22, 18:48
So it will add to line up for me let say in 20 years time or so for my Eurasian line up in Tokyo! Mongers have to think ahead to future LOL!So you going to be able to keep your dick hard for that long Mr. Ho? LOLOLOLOL!

Mr Ho
03-15-22, 00:02
So you going to be able to keep your dick hard for that long Mr. Ho? LOLOLOLOL!FKK as mentioned at Globe thread which any experienced monger who is honest know is not true as 50 euro 30 min BBBJ session is becoming rarity in most FKK beside some nrw FKK and in palace and artemis etc those days are long gone since 2017 in most cases and BBBJ is not standard anymore in 50 euro 30 min session!

To talk real, as I said before, I can still do 3 sessions for sure on first day, but second or third day on, I begin to feel hard at third session, so I usually pop cialis after second session or after third session to enjoy fucking after another without any worry if I decided to stay after third session in FKK as I used to do 5 to 7 session per day everyday as I used to be able to find more stunners in line up in early 2010's and I was in my late early 30's, but now I do about 3 to 5 sessions per day, but since most of time I do not find stunners to my level, I either leave at after third session or most of these 3 to 5 sessions per day is with same few stunners that I found or same one stunner that I found LOL! So it does get bored after few days of fucking her (See this is why I do not get married, after fucking stunner of stunner, I know by experience that I get little bored and I still fuck her with pleasure, but my penis begin to get bored more! The side effect of mongering stunners too much LOL).

We all age no matter who you are and when I hit 60 or 70 or 80 or whatever, I feel that science world will support me to able to go mongering as I am doing now like I was in my 20's, but in future, I do believe that science world will come up with some medicine or treatment that has no side effects and is actually better for your health and enable you at fuck like when you are in your 20's but you are in 90 years old LOL! I do think so! I mean look at how innovative viagra etc was when it first came out right? It was the wall breaker and saved many old men who want to still fuck!

I do sport everyday, I do interval jogging daily from 4 pm to 5 pm and I work out twice per week with weight, but I know it has limitation.

By the way! Do you know that PDE5 inhibitor like cialis is actually good for your artery health? Some people take low dose cialis on daily basis to keep their arteries healthy! So it actually is good thing to take it once in awhile!

I do weekly low dose aspiring, I do not have any medical problem, but I am also bit of health conscious guy, so I do keep eyes on these things and I do not drink alcohol that is plus for health, but I do love eating LOL! I stay fit and my stomach is and will always will be flat though LOL!

Mr Ho
03-15-22, 00:08
With all of the language apps these days, this is a non-issue. Hell, Google Translate now even gives audio translations!We actually have the best next level language device here and we are giving them out to Ukrainian refugee people for free and those are helping a lot for them to get around as not many speak English here, we avoided Russian in those machine we give out to them as we hear they no longer want to speak Russian anymore, so we consider their preference and give out only Ukrainian one installed which we had to develop fast as the company who make those machine did not think about Ukrainian market, so they had Russian installed, but not Ukrainian LOL!

It is terrible what is happening! But we mongers will most likely benefit from it and it just is reality bite for our own pleasure, it comes with territory of mongering, we do benefit from down side of advantage people or situation!

DrPoon
03-15-22, 07:49
We actually have the best next level language device here and we are giving them out to Ukrainian refugee people for free and those are helping a lot for them to get around as not many speak English here, we avoided Russian in those machine we give out to them as we hear they no longer want to speak Russian anymore, so we consider their preference and give out only Ukrainian one installed which we had to develop fast as the company who make those machine did not think about Ukrainian market, so they had Russian installed, but not Ukrainian LOL!

It is terrible what is happening! But we mongers will most likely benefit from it and it just is reality bite for our own pleasure, it comes with territory of mongering, we do benefit from down side of advantage people or situation!I need one of these devices to assist me in my plan to become the Rosa Parks of Japan to break the Whites barrier to delivery health.

RabbitFarm
03-15-22, 19:56
Hello gentlemen,

Does anyone know what changes are to be expected in clubs due to restrictions being loosened?

Let's just use the land of Hessen for argument's sake.

Mr Ho
03-15-22, 23:55
I need one of these devices to assist me in my plan to become the Rosa Parks of Japan to break the Whites barrier to delivery health.There are some delivery health that allow foreigners, and it is getting more blighter, it is just the industry trying to protect top girls by decreasing risk as we have some tourists from certain nation who not are, but has strong tendency to disturb the peace of this country! Which is same in FKK to where girls are more protected in the compound, but with delivery health, girls are on their own and the industry do not want any issue as if there are government will restrict the industry as well and top girl also do not want to do this job as again these girls are not in poverty, but in it for quick fast big money!

Unless you like Japanese girls specifically then you are not missing much as I said, and there are top Eurasians, but only few per year that I find to my standard, but it is and will get better as we open more to immigration! And I am surprise how fast our government move this time with Ukrainian refugees and also many world government, I think they are wanted as they are educated and they are well behaved with manner, I think this is the real story LOL!

On the side note, we have quite many Iranian people here and wow half Iranian and Japanese mix turns out exotic beauty and also to my surprise half Pakistan and half Japanese too also turns out exotic beauty too! Once I only thought mixed blood that is top level beauties are only half white and half Japanese here, but no, we live and learn every day, I fucked some of those rare mix that so beautiful, but mixed with other races as I mentioned earlier in this paragraph!

Berlin also, I tend to find many German who are mixed blood with Turkish, Arab etc and wow some of these girls are so exotic beauties! I stick to my white stunner level beauty taste, but I do love tasting these exotic stunner between the sessions and for me most of those tanned skin Romanian stunner serve my exotic taste!

Let us see how the line up will change in few years time with this Ukrainian crisis and also post pandemic as corona messed up many house holds income in Germany and in Europe especially in Easter Europe, so we may get improved line up after this pandemic and war in German FKK and in Zurich FKK etc! But German more as they love accepting immigrants in Germany due to their ww2 mistake!

Pistons
03-16-22, 03:39
But no worry, unless you like Japanese girls like Nocilas Cage, there are not many stunner Eurasians, I find about 2 to 5 or 6 max per year! And I look for them everyday LOL! When I find it is top level though! So you are not missing out a lot, just a bit!

It is changing though, I see many more mixed blood now here than ever as my country is finally opening up the immigration and many foreigners are beginning to migrate for better quality of life and social security! So I see more Eurasian stunners now and will increase as we advance into future!But the conception of beauty changes given what you are used to see. Someone living in the UK will find broad faces beautiful when living in the UK. But if he moves to China, suddenly narrow faces will turn out more beautiful after a year or two because you get used to seeing it whenever you go. There have been studies related to marketing on this.

When I went to Macau sauna I always had favourites who told me the Chinese men almost never chose them. And the most popular among the Chinese men were some tall Mongolia girls. I never understood that. And tall girls in general were more expensive due to height alone. That also was strange.