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DrPoon
06-04-22, 18:31
The USA doesn't want people to have erections. Its going exactly as planned as part of the medical industrial complex to fleece money and prevent sex.


The complexity and co-pays reek of vested interests and rip-offs. It never ceases to amaze me finding 4,000% price deltas on drugs, but print a coupon and it's reduced from $3,000 to $70 with no explanation, and tests the same. It is predatory, multi-level pricing full of middlemen and sharks. Most doctors have to employ a team of admin people to code and chase up insurers, collect co-pays and hassle patients when the insurer denies payment, at which point the doctor tactically fucks up the patients credit as a means of coercion. This is on top of the usual priesthood mindset of doctors who will only lift a finger when a fee is immediately in front of them and totally on their terms. They overbook to maximize revenue, so they transfer wasted time (waiting around) risk to the patient and in effect steal wages and irreplaceable hours of life from patients. The entire power structure is wrong from top to bottom. The supra profits of the big HMO's (I own stock) tell the story compared to other insurers.

It is absurd there are bronze, silver, and complex State and or federal rebates, co-pays etc, all designed by actuaries to fleece the population. Fear is used to terrify people to pay up. For a typical monger here, aged 40-60, spin the wheel, but you can expect a minimum of $USD 600 a month and another $USD 200 a month in various undisclosed gotchas. There are highly complex loopholes. But as you would expect, they make it very hard to escape the net of insurers, hospitals, drug companies and medical staff all with their hands out for cash but pretending they are some white coated, impartial super race only interested in our welfare. It's a lie. Follow the money trail..

Pistons
06-04-22, 19:31
If one man owns $1,000,000 and his debt is $900,000 and another man owns $100,000,000 but his debt is $256,000,000 which one is richer? The first man is in the black to the extent of $100,000 and the second is in the red to $156,000,000. The first man is wealthier. Same for a country. Japan has a nominal GDP of just over $5 trillion in 2020 but Japan's national debt in 2019 amounted to about $11.63 trillion. In a ranking of debt to GDP per country, Japan is thus currently ranked first. Therefore, in actual fact, Japan is the world's poorest country.I am sure they cannot wait for that reset. And celebrating all international news of growing interest rates. I have to give it to them, it's a smart strategy.

Pistons
06-04-22, 19:32
If one man owns $1,000,000 and his debt is $900,000 and another man owns $100,000,000 but his debt is $256,000,000 which one is richer? The first man is in the black to the extent of $100,000 and the second is in the red to $156,000,000. The first man is wealthier. Same for a country. Japan has a nominal GDP of just over $5 trillion in 2020 but Japan's national debt in 2019 amounted to about $11.63 trillion. In a ranking of debt to GDP per country, Japan is thus currently ranked first. Therefore, in actual fact, Japan is the world's poorest country.Edit: growing inflation.

Mr Ho
06-04-22, 23:08
If one man owns $1,000,000 and his debt is $900,000 and another man owns $100,000,000 but his debt is $256,000,000 which one is richer? The first man is in the black to the extent of $100,000 and the second is in the red to $156,000,000. The first man is wealthier. Same for a country. Japan has a nominal GDP of just over $5 trillion in 2020 but Japan's national debt in 2019 amounted to about $11.63 trillion. In a ranking of debt to GDP per country, Japan is thus currently ranked first. Therefore, in actual fact, Japan is the world's poorest country.You have to re-study economics, I explained this before and you are brainwashed, I go through this quickly as I cannot be bothered, look USA and Japan has different system to other nations, we are you can say same nations though we are not, we are like batman and robin!

You have to learn how not to be brainwashed by what is on surface, but deep below there is a rigged system to the advantage of USA and Japan and UK are closely tied to it, that is why UK did not change the currency even they once joined EU.

As for Japan, this rigged system is done even better than USA, we own over 90% of our central bank, the bank of Japan, and our country bond is back by our currency only, so we as in the government have full control of financial mobilization if they want to print, and we owe money to the citizen of Japan, we own money to ourselves unlike most nations of the world, EU is good example of this, when Greece had problem, they owed money to EU, so they cannot even print their own currency as EU decide Greeks currency as it is Euro and Greece do not own their own central bank, but also USA to Federal reserve is owned by unknown people, it is not federal, it says JP morgan on it if you look it up, but I think it is proxy owner! So all Japan need is the trust from our own people and preferably from international nations, then we are fine as we own our central bank over 90% and also our bond is backed by only our currency! Plus add to that topic, it is G3 currency, look it up and study more then talk as you are way below me for talking to me about economics as you are like magazine newspaper brainwash people, look up G3 currency and study or better go and get MBA in good school, it maybe not too late LOL!

Mr Ho
06-04-22, 23:10
The USA doesn't want people to have erections. Its going exactly as planned as part of the medical industrial complex to fleece money and prevent sex.They may prevent you from sex, but nothing prevent them to tax you though LOL! No sex, but tax LOL!

The government need you to marry and have kids, so you produce new future tax paying organic machines called babies LOL!

Mr Ho
06-04-22, 23:20
If one man owns $1,000,000 and his debt is $900,000 and another man owns $100,000,000 but his debt is $256,000,000 which one is richer? The first man is in the black to the extent of $100,000 and the second is in the red to $156,000,000. The first man is wealthier. Same for a country. Japan has a nominal GDP of just over $5 trillion in 2020 but Japan's national debt in 2019 amounted to about $11.63 trillion. In a ranking of debt to GDP per country, Japan is thus currently ranked first. Therefore, in actual fact, Japan is the world's poorest country.P.S.; do not ever mix country with people as it is most stupid comparison as they are totally two different thing and never underestimate what the country can do, the government is ultimate power modern day god, they write the law, they rigged the system as they want it and when it comes to the currency just study G3 and look it up and learn more about it as I am already nice enough to teach you little bit, it is much more deeper than that and G3 currencies are the god of currency and US dollar is the ultimate king! They even wage war when it comes to US dollar, look what happened to Sadam when he tried to sell his oil in Euro! Iraq was wiped out from this face of this planet LOL! Oil and a lot of other things have to be sold only in US dollars as it is part of very important system of the world called G3 currencies backed by the finest of the finest of all humanity called United state military LOL!

Trim1
06-05-22, 04:26
we own over 90% of our central bankI think this is what you mean:

"In fact, 90 percent of the debt is held by Japanese investors."

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/japans-debt-mountain-how-is-it-sustainable/articleshow/76298563.cms

Japan's central bank is completely owned by Japan.


Therefore, in actual fact, Japan is the world's poorest country.Japan is not the world's poorest country. Most of Japan's debt is owed to itself. It is like a household where the wife (government) owes a lot of money to the husband.

MiamiHeat2020
06-05-22, 05:29
I think the consensus would be Frankfurt as Oase and Sharks aren't too far away.Got it thank you!

Mr Ho
06-05-22, 06:08
I think this is what you mean:

"In fact, 90 percent of the debt is held by Japanese investors."

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/japans-debt-mountain-how-is-it-sustainable/articleshow/76298563.cms

Japan's central bank is completely owned by Japan.

Japan is not the world's poorest country. Most of Japan's debt is owed to itself. It is like a household where the wife (government) owes a lot of money to the husband.Yes, I usually write before the breakfast, so I just write without paying too much attention, so thanks for summarizing it, but you forgot the most important thing I wrote, G3 currencies! G3 currencies are the base for everything in the world that are under capitalistic system that is 99 % of the world. There is no way G3 currency nations will be let destroy as we all support each other as core center of the world, then the G7, but G3 are the most important central core of the whole capitalism and the world! People like to denounce USA a lot, but USA destruction won't happen as it means Japan and UK destruction, these trio are backed and support each other to the core, so financially it is all theater and it does not matte for G3 nations LOL! And as for bang bang, keep Japan out of it and USA and UK can do what they like which is to shoot guns, we do not want to participate in that as we do not see the point in it, but we understand they need to shoot guns for their internal system to work and keep order in the world! Here is bit about G3 currencies but it does not dig deep enough though!

https://blog.ibanfirst.com/en/the-currencies-of-the-g7-countries

But lately, the trend is that let other nations fight, we just rant and give weapons LOL! Like in Ukraine, Africa and Middle East! What happening in Ukraine is nothing comparison to what happening in Africa especially Congo since 1960's! Horrible evil things are done to them controlled by West as there is cobalt there! The central core of battery for electric cars LOL! Insane world! But we all benefit from it!

King Amir
06-05-22, 17:56
The Entrance fee to FKK world it's 15 eru all day for everything or is drinks and food not included in the price?

It's not too cheap for the biggest club in Germany?

Sirioja
06-05-22, 19:11
The Entrance fee to FKK world it's 15 eru all day for everything or is drinks and food not included in the price?

It's not too cheap for the biggest club in Germany?I think not anymore including foods and drinks. The fall of a legend. I was also told Oase casting is really down with mostly long time girls since I was a child. They must have 60 in dog years at Oase.

Trim1
06-05-22, 19:23
you forgot the most important thing I wrote, G3 currencies!I didn't forget. I just didn't have anything to say about the G3 currencies. Yes, the US dollar, the Euro, and the yen are the 3 most important currencies.

While we're on this topic, let me point out that we might be entering a time of currency upheaval due to the freezing of Russia's central bank reserves. It would make sense for countries that anticipate potential conflicts with G3 nations to shift away from G3 currencies. I think there will be a renewed appreciation for the value of gold as a reserve asset.

Let me attempt to turn the discussion towards a topic more fitting for this forum.

Even before the war, Russia and Ukraine had some of the lowest male-to-female ratios in the world, with especially severe imbalances among older generations. Their ratios should be even lower now due to the unfortunate deaths of so many men. How do you think Russian and Ukrainian women will adapt to this change?

Abox79
06-05-22, 19:26
I think I read somewhere that there is an increase in public fucking in some German FKK's. Can anyone confirm this and if so is it happening in Oase, Palace or Sharks? I've seen it plenty of times pre-pandemic, mostly at Palace, rarely Oase and never Sharks. I would appreciate knowing the current situation. Thanks.

Mongerer88
06-05-22, 21:48
If one man owns $1,000,000 and his debt is $900,000 and another man owns $100,000,000 but his debt is $256,000,000 which one is richer? The first man is in the black to the extent of $100,000 and the second is in the red to $156,000,000. The first man is wealthier. Same for a country. Japan has a nominal GDP of just over $5 trillion in 2020 but Japan's national debt in 2019 amounted to about $11.63 trillion. In a ranking of debt to GDP per country, Japan is thus currently ranked first. Therefore, in actual fact, Japan is the world's poorest country.I would strongly argue that the second man is richer and will get more pussy, if he never has to repay much of the debt during his lifetime.

That happens occasionally at the individual level when banks are fooled into lending too much to someone.

At the country level, only a few countries can get by with the equivalent of the second man. The USA, Japan and the you. K. Are among them. Other countries would face hyper-inflation and a currency valuation collapse, which has in fact occurred among countries in South America and Africa. But the big three can essentially print money by having the Central Bank buy back the government bonds. It allows for a relative increase in the standard of living amongst the populace of those countries. Australia falls into the category to an extent.

It is unlikely to ever change. For a major problem to occur, another currency would need to become the world's standard. China is too isolated, especially after Covid, and the European Union cannot risk becoming the enemy of the USA, especially after the aggression by Russia. So life will continue as it is.

Mr Ho
06-05-22, 23:32
I didn't forget. I just didn't have anything to say about the G3 currencies. Yes, the US dollar, the Euro, and the yen are the 3 most important currencies.

While we're on this topic, let me point out that we might be entering a time of currency upheaval due to the freezing of Russia's central bank reserves. It would make sense for countries that anticipate potential conflicts with G3 nations to shift away from G3 currencies. I think there will be a renewed appreciation for the value of gold as a reserve asset.

Let me attempt to turn the discussion towards a topic more fitting for this forum.

Even before the war, Russia and Ukraine had some of the lowest male-to-female ratios in the world, with especially severe imbalances among older generations. Their ratios should be even lower now due to the unfortunate deaths of so many men. How do you think Russian and Ukrainian women will adapt to this change?I tend to think UK and US waited and planned this war and russia walked right in to the trap LOL! After Crimea, UK and US begin to plan and russia walked right in and fucked up is what happened, so as for currency US had prepare for this and media ofcourse go nut as it is their job to agitate fear to give opium for masses, but hey G3 will always be ok as this trio is the most friendly bunch and after UK left EU, the bond of trio is becoming even stronger LOL!

As for russian and Ukrainian women, Ukrainian women will head to Europe, so we got opportunity there and maybe we may even begin to see them in FKK or at least high end escort in Germany I hope as Germany is very liberal on immigrant and this time it is white immigrant, so I guess door will be more wide open for ukrainians in Germany than any other big EU nations and most of Ukrainians went to poland now anyways and it is right next to Germany almost by Berlin actually, so artemis? LOL!! So ukrainian women may be in Germany!

As for russian women, with all this sanction it will abolish middle class in russia soon or later and there will be less russian sugar daddies in moscos, so russian girls may shift their tuting destination to Dubai as russian girls won't be able to come to EU nations or UK anymore to tute and Dubai will be good place for russian girls to do their tuting activities!

I think I could be quite accurate on this, but when I thought during Greece crisis back in 2014 ish that there will be many Greek stunners in german FKK, I found zero LOL! So line up of FKK works in mysterious ways, but it is good that we still have plenty of romanian stunners that keep on coming LOL! We must enjoy that romanian supply while it last! It is beautiful girls nation! But I do hope Ukraine will develop some system of supply to german FKK!

Mr Ho
06-06-22, 04:07
I would strongly argue that the second man is richer and will get more pussy, if he never has to repay much of the debt during his lifetime.

That happens occasionally at the individual level when banks are fooled into lending too much to someone.

At the country level, only a few countries can get by with the equivalent of the second man. The USA, Japan and the you. K. Are among them. Other countries would face hyper-inflation and a currency valuation collapse, which has in fact occurred among countries in South America and Africa. But the big three can essentially print money by having the Central Bank buy back the government bonds. It allows for a relative increase in the standard of living amongst the populace of those countries. Australia falls into the category to an extent.

It is unlikely to ever change. For a major problem to occur, another currency would need to become the world's standard. China is too isolated, especially after Covid, and the European Union cannot risk becoming the enemy of the USA, especially after the aggression by Russia. So life will continue as it is.UK, USA and Japan are three trio that get away with a lot of things like this all the mass public are fed is theatrical miserable comedies LOL! Only one condition though which is if USA stay on top with their military power! As out of this three trio nations they all have the say in all the matter, but America first LOL! USA is the boss of the all, but kind and understanding level boss who sometime is hard to understand when they want to pull out the guns LOL! But that is how USA was founded and it is the system!

Blancoco12
06-07-22, 04:30
Where is the best FKK right now?

For pretty girls and cheaper price?

Mr Ho
06-07-22, 23:13
Where is the best FKK right now?

For pretty girls and cheaper price?None LOL! It is all more expensive than before with many clubs increasing the prices eg, artemis, globe etc, but if you want cheaper options with younger girls, NRW always is the place for that than Hessen or Berlin or as far as I hear Hamburg as I never been to Hamburg fkks! So NRW!, but I prefer upsell near the city clubs like Artemis and palace!

Sirioja
06-08-22, 12:07
Where is the best FKK right now?

For pretty girls and cheaper price?Unfortunately, Sharks and 6 ens NL fell on this year for looks when increasing rate. For fresh pretties, I would advice Samya, Gold. Palace can always be a good surprise on Friday or Saturday evening with a German escort. Other, You do like me as the pickiest, You open your eyes and You may find one wow around Zurich, one outstanding German around Dortmund and You speed between. After helping my Ukrainian escort to hear when her medical stayed in Kiev, when I will buy S5 to power and improve with french technology flexifuel, no other crazy like me to buy now such engine, and what a run it will be. Bab can also worth a visit. No club on top, but discovered really good girls on this year.

Turgid
06-08-22, 14:45
UK, USA and Japan are three trio that get away with a lot of things like this all the mass public are fed is theatrical miserable comedies LOL! Only one condition though which is if USA stay on top with their military power! As out of this three trio nations they all have the say in all the matter, but America first LOL! USA is the boss of the all, but kind and understanding level boss who sometime is hard to understand when they want to pull out the guns LOL! But that is how USA was founded and it is the system!"As the clock is ticking on averting a fiscal disaster, the Japanese government must implement effective fiscal consolidation measures sooner rather than later". https://www.eastasiaforum.org/2021/06/05/saving-japan-from-fiscal-collapse/.

Mr Ho
06-08-22, 22:59
"As the clock is ticking on averting a fiscal disaster, the Japanese government must implement effective fiscal consolidation measures sooner rather than later". https://www.eastasiaforum.org/2021/06/05/saving-japan-from-fiscal-collapse/.You are just an anti, learn about G3 currencies as I kindly educated you, G3 currencies support each other and if one fail, capitalism will be finished, well China will be happy to replace it with what they call their system socialism now LOL!

TomRifle
06-09-22, 08:05
Unfortunately, Sharks and 6 ens NL fell on this year for looks when increasing rate. .What rates are increased? I see it is still 65 Eur with 50 on Wednesday for Sharks. Or are the girls not anymore 50 Euro for standard service? It used to be 50 for standard and 100 for something more special in all big clubs such as Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan, etc. Globe in Zürich I think it was 100 CHF for standard half an hour and something like 80 CHF entrance fee.

Mr Ho
06-09-22, 11:15
What rates are increased? I see it is still 65 Eur with 50 on Wednesday for Sharks. Or are the girls not anymore 50 Euro for standard service? It used to be 50 for standard and 100 for something more special in all big clubs such as Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan, etc. Globe in Zrich I think it was 100 CHF for standard half an hour and something like 80 CHF entrance fee.Artemis also increased the price both for entry and for session, for extras I do not know though, but they probably did! Well in FKK, no money, no honey LOL!

Sirioja
06-09-22, 13:03
What rates are increased? I see it is still 65 Eur with 50 on Wednesday for Sharks. Or are the girls not anymore 50 Euro for standard service? It used to be 50 for standard and 100 for something more special in all big clubs such as Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan, etc. Globe in Zrich I think it was 100 CHF for standard half an hour and something like 80 CHF entrance fee.Yes on twentieth century.

ExoticFruit
06-09-22, 19:06
Hey,

I'll be visiting Germany for the first time and hoping to visit the Manhattan club in August. I'm just curious about one thing though, I understand that Germans are very open to nudity and was wondering would people get annoyed if I walk around with a massive boner? I get boner easily, literally any sight of naked person could get me off. Should I be wearing an underwear underneath my bathrobe? I wouldn't want to accidentally piss anyone off.

DrPoon
06-09-22, 20:25
I would strongly argue that the second man is richer and will get more pussy, if he never has to repay much of the debt during his lifetime.

That happens occasionally at the individual level when banks are fooled into lending too much to someone.

At the country level, only a few countries can get by with the equivalent of the second man. The USA, Japan and the you. K. Are among them. Other countries would face hyper-inflation and a currency valuation collapse, which has in fact occurred among countries in South America and Africa. But the big three can essentially print money by having the Central Bank buy back the government bonds. It allows for a relative increase in the standard of living amongst the populace of those countries. Australia falls into the category to an extent.

It is unlikely to ever change. For a major problem to occur, another currency would need to become the world's standard. China is too isolated, especially after Covid, and the European Union cannot risk becoming the enemy of the USA, especially after the aggression by Russia. So life will continue as it is.The USD for reserve currency will only last unless and as long as the oil producers accept the USD as reserve currency. The minute they stop accepting USD for oil then the dollar will crash.

DaVinci40
06-09-22, 21:22
Hey,

I'll be visiting Germany for the first time and hoping to visit the Manhattan club in August. I'm just curious about one thing though, I understand that Germans are very open to nudity and was wondering would people get annoyed if I walk around with a massive boner? I get boner easily, literally any sight of naked person could get me off. Should I be wearing an underwear underneath my bathrobe? I wouldn't want to accidentally piss anyone off.You don't necessarily just walk around the club naked. You wear a towel or robe around the club and take it off when going into the pool, sunbathing, sauna, with a girl, etc. But you are not literally walking the length of the club and to and from rooms fully naked. You're also going to be seeing naked girls the entire time you're at Mainhattan so I'm confused about the question. Nothing wrong in getting a boner but If you see a girl that gets you hard why not just session with her instead of feeling like you're just going to have a boner constantly?

Mr Ho
06-09-22, 22:54
Hey,

I'll be visiting Germany for the first time and hoping to visit the Manhattan club in August. I'm just curious about one thing though, I understand that Germans are very open to nudity and was wondering would people get annoyed if I walk around with a massive boner? I get boner easily, literally any sight of naked person could get me off. Should I be wearing an underwear underneath my bathrobe? I wouldn't want to accidentally piss anyone off.You might get some attention with some looks as even in FKK that is quite rare, but yes you are allowed, I have seen this old like in 70's regular guy who just walk around and sit around butt naked in FKK Artemis and it seems that is all he does, the old guy in 70's with total nude just sandal on his feet with boner is not nice view to see, but he was kinda walking eye pollution that is satisfying his purpose of his visit to FKK LOL!

Asakku
06-09-22, 23:14
Goldentime, there was working a Polish lady Rosa. Have anybody seen.

Rosa in other clubs?

Mr Ho
06-10-22, 01:59
You don't necessarily just walk around the club naked. You wear a towel or robe around the club and take it off when going into the pool, sunbathing, sauna, with a girl, etc. But you are not literally walking the length of the club and to and from rooms fully naked. You're also going to be seeing naked girls the entire time you're at Mainhattan so I'm confused about the question. Nothing wrong in getting a boner but If you see a girl that gets you hard why not just session with her instead of feeling like you're just going to have a boner constantly?Some guys like to be seen, it is fetish called flashing LOL!

Sky Jump
06-10-22, 09:32
I have been trading for 30 years and one thing hasn't changed. When big money gets scared and they move from investment to cash they only want dollars. Exactly why the dollar is so strong at the moment. No one wants to hold euros, yen or any other currency. US currency is better garbage then the other stuff. And how about that Bitcoin to $100,000? It tracks the markets as you can see now.


The USD for reserve currency will only last unless and as long as the oil producers accept the USD as reserve currency. The minute they stop accepting USD for oil then the dollar will crash.

PayForIt
06-10-22, 13:43
I made this query already in the Oceans forum but Sirioja replied to say there are different prices for different clubs.

I would like to know what the current standard pricing is for each of Oceans, Samya, Mondial for one hour, BBBJ included.

I aware (from recent trips) that Hessen is 150/60 inc BBBJ and DFK. As usual other extras costing 50 more or 100 anal (not my thing).

Has Hessen caught up with this? Siri said Aca Gold has lower prices.

What about the prices in Oceans, Samya and Mondial.

Would appreciate any members with recent visits saying what the 1 hour standard price now is.

Many thanks.

Smoke Light
06-10-22, 14:19
I made this query already in the Oceans forum but Sirioja replied to say there are different prices for different clubs.

I would like to know what the current standard pricing is for each of Oceans, Samya, Mondial for one hour, BBBJ included.

I aware (from recent trips) that Hessen is 150/60 inc BBBJ and DFK. As usual other extras costing 50 more or 100 anal (not my thing).

Has Hessen caught up with this? Siri said Aca Gold has lower prices.

What about the prices in Oceans, Samya and Mondial.

Would appreciate any members with recent visits saying what the 1 hour standard price now is.

Many thanks.I already mentioned in Samya thread: standard rate 100 euro for 1 hour in Samya includes BBBJ. Period. No exceptions.

In Bernds the youngsters Tina, Lavinia, and Bianca will treat you like a king with BBBJ and CIM 30450. Same goes of course for other Schieferhof ladies like Cleo, Mia, Maria, Erika and so on.

I did not go to other clubs. There was no need. I got everything I wanted when I wanted.

Smoke Light
06-10-22, 14:44
I want to clarify that Samya is primarily for optics, not your honeymoon. Many girls are used to super quick rooms. It is a mistake here not to discuss all details before the room. The girls actually appreciate knowing what you want before the room. Tell her what kind of BJ you want, positions you want to try, how you want to finish and make sure you hear her confirmation on all of the requirements. This is a job interview. State that you are a regular here and you know the management and the prices. I recommend this conversation at the restaurant or on the terrace or at the reception area without loud music so communication is clear. In the worst case scenario threaten her to complain that "she is not sensual enough in the room". These are the exact words you should use with her in the room to correct her behavior if necessary. Basically you treat them like your own teenage kids to keep things in proper order. Hope this helps.

PayForIt
06-10-22, 17:25
I already mentioned in Samya thread: standard rate 100 euro for 1 hour in Samya includes BBBJ. Period. No exceptions.

In Bernds the youngsters Tina, Lavinia, and Bianca will treat you like a king with BBBJ and CIM 30450. Same goes of course for other Schieferhof ladies like Cleo, Mia, Maria, Erika and so on.

I did not go to other clubs. There was no need. I got everything I wanted when I wanted.Sorry forgot about your post in Samya thread. Sounds to me like you preferred Bernds to Samya. Is that correct?

Smoke Light
06-10-22, 18:42
Sorry forgot about your post in Samya thread. Sounds to me like you preferred Bernds to Samya. Is that correct?I am alternating the two clubs and sometimes take a day off. Bernds is closed on weekends. I am very fortunate that I have pretty low standards. Basically, I prefer BBBJ, I don't kiss a lot, and I am a fast rabbit fucker in mish or doggy. FKK system gives me much stronger orgasms compared to any other sex industry experiences in my life. I love Samya because I am a very visual monger: I see dozens of very pretty young bodies, what they wear, how they play with men, how they dance half naked, and so on. Pre-pandemic my favorite club was Living room, which was a glory time, but nowadays, Samya is a perfect place to bang young petite beautiful spinners. If I stayed here longer my goal would be to fuck each single one of them. I will be returning again this year, maybe in September, staying near Koln, like I am now. Best fuck is always the next one.

Sirioja
06-10-22, 19:08
I want to clarify that Samya is primarily for optics, not your honeymoon. Many girls are used to super quick rooms. It is a mistake here not to discuss all details before the room. The girls actually appreciate knowing what you want before the room. Tell her what kind of BJ you want, positions you want to try, how you want to finish and make sure you hear her confirmation on all of the requirements. This is a job interview. State that you are a regular here and you know the management and the prices. I recommend this conversation at the restaurant or on the terrace or at the reception area without loud music so communication is clear. In the worst case scenario threaten her to complain that "she is not sensual enough in the room". These are the exact words you should use with her in the room to correct her behavior if necessary. Basically you treat them like your own teenage kids to keep things in proper order. Hope this helps.Making such grocery would kill my desire. Fortunately, I manage in different way and also at Samya.

PayForIt
06-10-22, 19:43
I want to clarify that Samya is primarily for optics, not your honeymoon. Many girls are used to super quick rooms. It is a mistake here not to discuss all details before the room. The girls actually appreciate knowing what you want before the room. Tell her what kind of BJ you want, positions you want to try, how you want to finish and make sure you hear her confirmation on all of the requirements. This is a job interview. State that you are a regular here and you know the management and the prices. I recommend this conversation at the restaurant or on the terrace or at the reception area without loud music so communication is clear. In the worst case scenario threaten her to complain that "she is not sensual enough in the room". These are the exact words you should use with her in the room to correct her behavior if necessary. Basically you treat them like your own teenage kids to keep things in proper order. Hope this helps.Many thanks for your terrifically helpful information. Super quick rooms is a nightmare for me! Optics sounds like heaven and the 100/60 pricing is terrific. Either way this has persuaded me to find out for myself next week. I'm sure I will be able to persuade someone pretty that longer rooms (and the price of them) is worth it! I've been to the club before but many years ago. Let's see what it is like currently. Thanks again.

Sirioja
06-10-22, 20:15
Many thanks for your terrifically helpful information. Super quick rooms is a nightmare for me! Optics sounds like heaven and the 100/60 pricing is terrific. Either way this has persuaded me to find out for myself next week. I'm sure I will be able to persuade someone pretty that longer rooms (and the price of them) is worth it! I've been to the club before but many years ago. Let's see what it is like currently. Thanks again.I don't think Samya is anymore the best for long time rooms when girls are mostly used to Turkish not kissing rabbits. For long time rooms, I would choose Bab, 6 and maybe sauna club Venus, not the RTC. Samya is more for fresh looks.

Gino02
06-10-22, 20:46
Basically you treat them like your own teenage kids to keep things in proper.A great advice! Never thought this way, but imma start using this principle going forward. Thanks man!

Turgid
06-10-22, 21:15
I tend to think UK and US waited and planned this war and russia walked right in to the trap LOL! ......The US did not have much to do to get this war started. They knew that if Ukraine agreed to join NATO Russia would attack and that is exactly what the US wanted. Nobody seems to be talking about the billions of dollars the US arms manufacturers are making. They are the ones who run the country and indeed most of the world. This war ending would be bad news for them.

Gino02
06-10-22, 22:28
The US did not have much to do to get this war started. They knew that if Ukraine agreed to join NATO Russia would attack and that is exactly what the US wanted. Nobody seems to be talking about the billions of dollars the US arms manufacturers are making. They are the ones who run the country and indeed most of the world. This war ending would be bad news for them.You are 100% correct! Exactly why not just Dem leaders, many establishment GOP leaders (eg Liz Chaney, Mitt Romney etc) in USA hates Trump because he won't start a war and that doesn't help their friends in the arms industry make money from the US taxpayers.

Mr Ho
06-10-22, 22:57
The USD for reserve currency will only last unless and as long as the oil producers accept the USD as reserve currency. The minute they stop accepting USD for oil then the dollar will crash.The reason why Iraq was attacked, it is all about USD and G3 currencies backed by United State Military the real power house of the whole world and humanity LOL! USA! USA! USA! LOL!

Mr Ho
06-10-22, 23:03
The US did not have much to do to get this war started. They knew that if Ukraine agreed to join NATO Russia would attack and that is exactly what the US wanted. Nobody seems to be talking about the billions of dollars the US arms manufacturers are making. They are the ones who run the country and indeed most of the world. This war ending would be bad news for them.I agree that US did not start it, but I disagree that US did not know about this as US intelligence are so good, they knew about it and prepared for it as this is best chance to dismantle Russia economically and politically as it is happening now LOL!

Russia was already not big nation, their economical capacity was about the size of south Korea, but now Russian economical size will be north Korea after the war LOL! Well they have the same behavior pattern of just blackmailing, threatening be vulgar to other nations in the field of foreign diplomacy even, so they just went back to where they belong LOL!

Mr Ho
06-10-22, 23:09
I want to clarify that Samya is primarily for optics, not your honeymoon. Many girls are used to super quick rooms. It is a mistake here not to discuss all details before the room. The girls actually appreciate knowing what you want before the room. Tell her what kind of BJ you want, positions you want to try, how you want to finish and make sure you hear her confirmation on all of the requirements. This is a job interview. State that you are a regular here and you know the management and the prices. I recommend this conversation at the restaurant or on the terrace or at the reception area without loud music so communication is clear. In the worst case scenario threaten her to complain that "she is not sensual enough in the room". These are the exact words you should use with her in the room to correct her behavior if necessary. Basically you treat them like your own teenage kids to keep things in proper order. Hope this helps.Samya is for optics? There are many stunner level girls there?

Then I am dumb as I was so fed up with shit GT and LR line up, so one day I just went from Duss to Cologne to visit the world heritage cathedral and then went back to GT instead of trying out Samya LOL!

If Samya has top stunner looking young girls, I would go and the news that it is upsell club is good for me as I tend to find more stunners in upsell clubs near the city and it is close to cologne right?

The Cane
06-11-22, 00:59
Samya is for optics? There are many stunner level girls there?

Then I am dumb as I was so fed up with shit GT and LR line up, so one day I just went from Duss to Cologne to visit the world heritage cathedral and then went back to GT instead of trying out Samya LOL!

If Samya has top stunner looking young girls, I would go and the news that it is upsell club is good for me as I tend to find more stunners in upsell clubs near the city and it is close to cologne right?I found stunners at both Samya and Mondial. Mr. Ho, I've told you about going to the same well over and over again and never looking for any new ones! You a monger went to Cologne and couldn't find the time to check out the best-known sex clubs there? Come on! How wasteful and foolish was that? To not even have a look, especially when you were already getting tired of GT and LR? Come on man!

Mr Ho
06-11-22, 01:04
You are 100% correct! Exactly why not just Dem leaders, many establishment GOP leaders (eg Liz Chaney, Mitt Romney etc) in USA hates Trump because he won't start a war and that doesn't help their friends in the arms industry make money from the US taxpayers.Trump is a businessman who do not see much profit for US to conduct war beside military complex and related industry which is quite wide range of industry, but he did try to start war with Iran though and north Korea, but it was calculated risk knowing it won't accelerate to wars!

But as sad as it is, USA need to conduct war every decade or more to keep on sustaining their system let call it! But it is for the greater good of this world again as sad as it is!

For mongers like us, we thrive in the ripple effects of chaos events of the world, so we are half happy, half mixed feeling about the good line up! Well, when a monger, let penis take control LOL! USA! USA! USA! LOL! Sound so dumb, but it is the best system the world know like capitalism LOL!

Mr Ho
06-11-22, 01:53
I found stunners at both Samya and Mondial. Mr. Ho, I've told you about going to the same well over and over again and never looking for any new ones! You a monger went to Cologne and couldn't find the time to check out the best-known sex clubs there? Come on! How wasteful and foolish was that? To not even have a look, especially when you were already getting tired of GT and LR? Come on man!I am a monger who went to cologne just for world heritage cathedral before heading to GT which is extreme other end of direction (2 stops before the last stop Venlo) LOL! I did think about it, but I did not go for Samya, but I went to opposite kind of place which is world heritage cathedral LOL!

I am quite cultural person and I tend to go to many of these sites if I manage to make time and I try to, and often it is so extreme to go to church kinda holy cultural place and few hours later I am in brothel getting my ass licked or my face is between some stunners ass crack that I just met few minutes ago LOL! Talk about the opposite extreme experience in one single day LOL!

The Cane
06-11-22, 03:23
You are 100% correct! Exactly why not just Dem leaders, many establishment GOP leaders (eg Liz Chaney, Mitt Romney etc) in USA hates Trump because he won't start a war and that doesn't help their friends in the arms industry make money from the US taxpayers.Do we have a Stupid Shit in FKK Land thread? Because if not, we need one. Now.

Mr Ho
06-11-22, 03:25
I found stunners at both Samya and Mondial. Mr. Ho, I've told you about going to the same well over and over again and never looking for any new ones! You a monger went to Cologne and couldn't find the time to check out the best-known sex clubs there? Come on! How wasteful and foolish was that? To not even have a look, especially when you were already getting tired of GT and LR? Come on man!P.S.: I have chosen Jesus on that particular day instead of prostitutes in Samya or Mondial LOL! But next time, I will choose the latter LOL!

Turgid
06-11-22, 13:44
You are 100% correct! Exactly why not just Dem leaders, many establishment GOP leaders (eg Liz Chaney, Mitt Romney etc) in USA hates Trump because he won't start a war and that doesn't help their friends in the arms industry make money from the US taxpayers.The GOP and Dems are the same. They strive towards the same goals but have different means of achieving them. They work in tandem with each other and are guided by the same puppeteers. The GOP strategy is direct action while the Dems are more cunning. It is apparent that the puppeteers see the present world scenario as requiring more sly and devious methods.

PayForIt
06-11-22, 14:01
Other than Artemis, is there any other FKK in Germany which has a gym on the premises?

The Cane
06-11-22, 16:43
P.S.: I have chosen Jesus on that particular day instead of prostitutes in Samya or Mondial LOL! But next time, I will choose the latter LOL!I guess I'm extra sinful then since I also visited the cathedral and fucked attractive prostitutes all in the same city on the same day. Thank ya Jesus! LOL!

Gino02
06-11-22, 19:24
Do we have a Stupid Shit in FKK Land thread? Because if not, we need one. Now.We feel your pain in accepting the fact that's opposite to your beliefs. Hope you're having an otherwise painless and fun weekend in the FKK lounges.

Mojoman74
06-11-22, 19:44
I know in Hessen area the price for anal is 100 euros.

How much is the cost in NRW clubs? Still 50 euros?

The Cane
06-11-22, 20:00
I know in Hessen area the price for anal is 100 euros.

How much is the cost in NRW clubs? Still 50 euros?Acquiring anal in the NRW is a Catch-22. Traditionally at 50 euros, it is a bargain compared to Hessen pricing. And the catch? Not nearly as many women in the NRW butt fuck as they do in Hessen, or other parts of Germany for that matter. I wonder if more would if they could make more at the Hessen price of 100 euros extra? Doesn't matter as it is what it is. Unless of course the price matches Hessen, which would add insult to injury for a cornholer.

NyyRanger
06-11-22, 20:06
Are there monkeypox concerns at the clubs?

I would imagine the women who work at the clubs will be very concerned and will be taking precautions. Is there any information on that?

Mr Ho
06-12-22, 01:03
I know in Hessen area the price for anal is 100 euros.

How much is the cost in NRW clubs? Still 50 euros?GT and LR are sold to Oceans where anal is 100 euro, so it is not looking promising there!

25 CIM and 50 anal was attractive price, but girls in Gt and Lr were not so attractive in general LOL! That was the problem!

Mr Ho
06-12-22, 01:11
Are there monkeypox concerns at the clubs?

I would imagine the women who work at the clubs will be very concerned and will be taking precautions. Is there any information on that?These girls do not care about anything, they even lick ass right after shitting LOL! So there is no concern for monkeypox or any viruses, they live like there is no tomorrow LOL!

Gino02
06-12-22, 03:52
These girls do not care about anything, they even lick ass right after shitting LOL! So there is no concern for monkeypox or any viruses, they live like there is no tomorrow LOL!And that's exactly why my friend, there's not a single reported case of any FKK girl's death from Covid, nor there is any reported case of Covid super spreader FKK event. Natural immunity gained by natural exposure to the world as it comes wins every time.

Smoke Light
06-12-22, 04:31
I know in Hessen area the price for anal is 100 euros.

How much is the cost in NRW clubs? Still 50 euros?Today I was offered anal 2 times at Samya for extra 100. I always decline anal because it's too much effort, restrictions on a certain position and shit like this. I think with some girls it would be possible to negotiate anal price down to 75 euro. Anal for 50 extra nowadays I seriously doubt, especially if you are not a regular at the club. Locals could still get 50, but not the tourist mongers.

Mr Ho
06-12-22, 07:48
Switzerland is open to people who has no vaccine and do not even ask for PCR test anymore, so it is back to as it was before the pandemic!

But Germany? They seems to still require vaccine passport and pcr test?

Am I right about the above?

If so, we should stop this hysteria over now the weak virus!

Mr Ho
06-12-22, 10:54
And that's exactly why my friend, there's not a single reported case of any FKK girl's death from Covid, nor there is any reported case of Covid super spreader FKK event. Natural immunity gained by natural exposure to the world as it comes wins every time.It is scientifically proven that children brought up in farm has stronger immune system than the children brought up in normal city households, so from now on at the German passport control, I can tell the passport control officer that my purpose of visit is immune strengthening at Clinic FKK LOL!

So after all, I was not hentai throughout all these years when I had my face between ass crack of young stunners that I just met and drilling her anal with my tongue, I was merely strengthening my immune system LOL!

No wonder I got through corona pandemic without getting corona without vaccination because I was serial anal eater of young stunners around the world LOL! Best vaccine in the world is eating stunner young beauties anal from different nations, it is like cocktail of different vaccines LOL!

Mr Ho
06-12-22, 11:55
Today I was offered anal 2 times at Samya for extra 100. I always decline anal because it's too much effort, restrictions on a certain position and shit like this. I think with some girls it would be possible to negotiate anal price down to 75 euro. Anal for 50 extra nowadays I seriously doubt, especially if you are not a regular at the club. Locals could still get 50, but not the tourist mongers.Shit like this because they do not want their shit coming out from anal LOL!

NyyRanger
06-12-22, 12:35
And that's exactly why my friend, there's not a single reported case of any FKK girl's death from Covid, nor there is any reported case of Covid super spreader FKK event. Natural immunity gained by natural exposure to the world as it comes wins every time.That's because most girls at FKK clubs are probably in their 20's and Covid is very benign for most younger people.

Monkeypox is different. It can leave someone's face with permanent pox marks, which would be a disaster for girls working at clubs like this. I myself certainly would not want to get something like that. And I can imagine that if there is a case of monkeypox in a club, it will be a disaster for the club. The Health Ministry would likely shut it down at least for some time and do a lot of investigation / contact tracing. Not something that an FKK club would want. So I was wondering, are the clubs doing anything to prevent this?

Gino02
06-12-22, 21:35
That's because most girls at FKK clubs are probably in their 20's and Covid is very benign for most younger people.

Monkeypox is different. It can leave someone's face with permanent pox marks, which would be a disaster for girls working at clubs like this. I myself certainly would not want to get something like that. And I can imagine that if there is a case of monkeypox in a club, it will be a disaster for the club. The Health Ministry would likely shut it down at least for some time and do a lot of investigation / contact tracing. Not something that an FKK club would want. So I was wondering, are the clubs doing anything to prevent this?You answered your own original question. You're scared of monkey pox from FKKs, then don't go to one. FKK girls and mongers like me aren't scared of these, so we'll keep enjoying life as long as we live without such fear. You do you, stay home.

Mr Ho
06-12-22, 23:36
That's because most girls at FKK clubs are probably in their 20's and Covid is very benign for most younger people.

Monkeypox is different. It can leave someone's face with permanent pox marks, which would be a disaster for girls working at clubs like this. I myself certainly would not want to get something like that. And I can imagine that if there is a case of monkeypox in a club, it will be a disaster for the club. The Health Ministry would likely shut it down at least for some time and do a lot of investigation / contact tracing. Not something that an FKK club would want. So I was wondering, are the clubs doing anything to prevent this?The question is how can they prevent this? There is no solution for this.

NyyRanger
06-13-22, 02:08
The question is how can they prevent this? There is no solution for this.From what I understand, there is actually a fairly simple solution. Monkeypox is not Covid. There is no asymptomatic transmission. In order to be contagious, one must have these warts. So, check if someone has the warts on their body / face. They could sometimes be inside the mouth. That's harder to check. So perhaps I should check this. This will certainly not eliminate the chances, but will minimize this.

NyyRanger
06-13-22, 02:09
Related to Covid, do the clubs check your vaccination status or prior infection? Anything you would need to bring with you?

Mr Ho
06-13-22, 03:51
From what I understand, there is actually a fairly simple solution. Monkeypox is not Covid. There is no asymptomatic transmission. In order to be contagious, one must have these warts. So, check if someone has the warts on their body / face. They could sometimes be inside the mouth. That's harder to check. So perhaps I should check this. This will certainly not eliminate the chances, but will minimize this.Well girls will freak out if you do that LOL! But there are only 1000 infections right? So the chance to contract it is still very low!

For your info, it is best to go to Artemis then as they got in house medical doctors there, so girls are little more checked than other FKK!

But there is not much you can do with the situation, the best prevention open your PC and make good use of your right hand the visual images that may please your eyes and lust LOL!

Blake011
06-13-22, 06:16
You answered your own original question. You're scared of monkey pox from FKKs, then don't go to one. FKK girls and mongers like me aren't scared of these, so we'll keep enjoying life as long as we live without such fear. You do you, stay home.What a very ignorant way to live, while the case numbers are only small so far, it could be a far more risky issue than covid for both customers and clients. You beat the women will be scared of this as it has the ability to scar peoples faces and bodies. Considering the outbreak and keeping an eye on it, and questioning what steps clubs will go to to protect the staff and customers, is a sane thing to do. Its not fear. Blindly carrying on is not 'enjoying life' its just bloody stupid. One would think after three years of covid and the damage done by people 'enjoying life' and ignoring science, we would be passed such fool-heartiness, sadly not it seems.

Who knows, hopefully, the risk passes faster without becoming a pandemic level of issue, but until such times questioning choices is smart.

SerpentX
06-13-22, 06:38
Nothing. All you need to bring with is cash.


Related to Covid, do the clubs check your vaccination status or prior infection? Anything you would need to bring with you?

Mr Ho
06-13-22, 23:18
What a very ignorant way to live, while the case numbers are only small so far, it could be a far more risky issue than covid for both customers and clients. You beat the women will be scared of this as it has the ability to scar peoples faces and bodies. Considering the outbreak and keeping an eye on it, and questioning what steps clubs will go to to protect the staff and customers, is a sane thing to do. Its not fear. Blindly carrying on is not 'enjoying life' its just bloody stupid. One would think after three years of covid and the damage done by people 'enjoying life' and ignoring science, we would be passed such fool-heartiness, sadly not it seems.

Who knows, hopefully, the risk passes faster without becoming a pandemic level of issue, but until such times questioning choices is smart.So basically, you are suggesting that we should go to FKK now as it is low risk as of this moment and run for the cover, Dr Ho will be finally back to his clinic this summer for some anal investigations LOL!

Gino02
06-14-22, 15:26
So basically, you are suggesting that we should go to FKK now as it is low risk as of this moment and run for the cover, Dr Ho will be finally back to his clinic this summer for some anal investigations LOL!No, Dr. Ho. Basically he's telling us that his wife is not letting him to travel to Germany, without telling us that his wife controls his life.

Mr Ho
06-14-22, 22:48
No, Dr. Ho. Basically he's telling us that his wife is not letting him to travel to Germany, without telling us that his wife controls his life.I never get wife control life of men LOL! If that is the case, they must leave the situation, but in certain developed nation, it cost them half their asset, so they just bought the most expensive prostitutes that do no good for their lives, but to destroy them including their sex life as well as mental and financial LOL!

Marriage is not worth it unless she is beautiful, rich and never age LOL!

Mongers do not get married, but we have honeymoon every single time for about 30 minutes to 90 or 120 minutes max as that is enough to squeeze the best part of beautiful girls as the rest is shit LOL! We take the sexy time as borat would say and leave the shit time for the rest of the folks LOL!

Ararat
06-15-22, 07:10
I don't worry about monkeypox yet. So far it seems to be mostly gay men who get it.

Khartoum
06-15-22, 12:59
Hello guys,

I have Been to Hamburg recently both at Babylon and atmos. Few girls and so so service. Prize there 150/30 min.

Witch clubs are as before covid?

- many girls to choose from.

- good service.

- etc.

Going back to Germany soon, but haven't yet decided witch city.

Thank in advance.

Khartoum
06-15-22, 14:28
Witch is the best clubs now in Germany? In terms om many girls, good service, outdoor area etc?

Been to Babylon and atmos recent. But was not impressed.

Cheers.

DaVinci40
06-15-22, 17:54
What a very ignorant way to live, while the case numbers are only small so far, it could be a far more risky issue than covid for both customers and clients. You beat the women will be scared of this as it has the ability to scar peoples faces and bodies. Considering the outbreak and keeping an eye on it, and questioning what steps clubs will go to to protect the staff and customers, is a sane thing to do. Its not fear. Blindly carrying on is not 'enjoying life' its just bloody stupid. One would think after three years of covid and the damage done by people 'enjoying life' and ignoring science, we would be passed such fool-heartiness, sadly not it seems.

Who knows, hopefully, the risk passes faster without becoming a pandemic level of issue, but until such times questioning choices is smart.So, rightfully so, there seems to be some confusion and nervousness about monkeypox (it's going to have a name change soon so it will no longer be called this) but it's probably a good idea to throw some facts out there and also realize that things may change as we know more about it. Monkeypox and smallpox, while not the same, are very similar. Monkeypox differs slightly in that the initial flu like symptoms are more severe than smallpox. So, as a monger, there's your first point of reference if you are concerned about this. You'dthink as well a girl if she has what quite literally feels like the flu is not going to be working either. Don't know about you guys but when I've had the flu it's knocked me out. I'm down for the count. But playing devils advocate if you see a girl that looks Ill there's your first pointer. Secondly, one the flu like symptoms dissapear it is replaced by a rash which looks like puss filled pimples which finally slough off and it's done. The whole process takes between 7-14 days. So, secondly, if you see a girl with puss filled warts and pimples, somethings going to tell me you wouldn't session with her. Somethings also going to tell me that the girl will stay away from the club until she no longer has these as the stigma of coming to work with monkeypox is going to last much longer than the 7-14 days it takes to go away.

Now, yes, there is a chance that the puss filled wart / pimples are in the interiors of mouths, pussy and ass but let's face it you're screwing and licking pussy and ass from a girl whose had it done to them a few other times that day. That's the risk you take. But as a monger I think we can all agree that we're screening for stuff like that anyways. Needle marks. Don't go with the girl, scabs. Don't go with the girl, looks sick. Don't go with the girl, fish smell. Don't go with the girl, you get the idea which is that most of us wouldn't session with girls that are like that anyways. At least I do.

Thirdly, some of us older pricks (LOL) may have had a smallpox vaccine as a kid. We don't yet know what that will mean for those that have had it but the thought is that it may still provide some level of protection against it.

My point is that you're your own best screener. You have the facts as we know it now and there's not much a club can do, apart from temperature check the girls. But as mentioned monkeypox goes through 3 stages. Flu like symptoms, then rash, then sloughing and recovery. Temperature is only going to stop the 1st process but if there is no high fever then it won't be detected. But I can tell you there's a look that someone has when they feel like death from the flu. I can't describe it but we all know it. Use that as your guide and then use your common sense with the girl. She's naked anyways almost 100% of the time, so if you see weird shit on their body then why would you fuck them in the first place?

Okay, let's get back to reality and stop living in fear.

King Amir
06-15-22, 22:30
Hi friends,

I'm going to Frankfurt from September 8th to 12th.

And I plan to visit clubs like Palace, Sharks, and World.

I would love to have partners in Frankfurt, is there anyone going to Frankfurt these days?

Mr Ho
06-16-22, 00:23
So, rightfully so, there seems to be some confusion and nervousness about monkeypox (it's going to have a name change soon so it will no longer be called this) but it's probably a good idea to throw some facts out there and also realize that things may change as we know more about it. Monkeypox and smallpox, while not the same, are very similar. Monkeypox differs slightly in that the initial flu like symptoms are more severe than smallpox. So, as a monger, there's your first point of reference if you are concerned about this. You'dthink as well a girl if she has what quite literally feels like the flu is not going to be working either. Don't know about you guys but when I've had the flu it's knocked me out. I'm down for the count. But playing devils advocate if you see a girl that looks Ill there's your first pointer. Secondly, one the flu like symptoms dissapear it is replaced by a rash which looks like puss filled pimples which finally slough off and it's done. The whole process takes between 7-14 days. So, secondly, if you see a girl with puss filled warts and pimples, somethings going to tell me you wouldn't session with her. Somethings also going to tell me that the girl will stay away from the club until she no longer has these as the stigma of coming to work with monkeypox is going to last much longer than the 7-14 days it takes to go away.

Now, yes, there is a chance that the puss filled wart / pimples are in the interiors of mouths, pussy and ass but let's face it you're screwing and licking pussy and ass from a girl whose had it done to them a few other times that day. That's the risk you take. But as a monger I think we can all agree that we're screening for stuff like that anyways. Needle marks. Don't go with the girl, scabs. Don't go with the girl, looks sick. Don't go with the girl, fish smell. Don't go with the girl, you get the idea which is that most of us wouldn't session with girls that are like that anyways. At least I do.

Thirdly, some of us older pricks (LOL) may have had a smallpox vaccine as a kid. We don't yet know what that will mean for those that have had it but the thought is that it may still provide some level of protection against it.Please WHO and posse has to make their billion dollars earnings again LOL!! They learnt the hustle with corona LOL! BIG business coming LOL! WHO, the richest commentators on medical issues, they comments to make billions LOL!

Pistons
06-16-22, 09:27
Please WHO and posse has to make their billion dollars earnings again LOL!! They learnt the hustle with corona LOL! BIG business coming LOL! WHO, the richest commentators on medical issues, they comments to make billions LOL!Yeah LOL, and then he ends it with:

"Okay, lets get back to reality and stop living in fear'.

What a retard.

Of course this monkeypox is also fiddled with in some lab, and made only to create fear.

Mr Ho
06-17-22, 10:07
Yeah LOL, and then he ends it with:

"Okay, lets get back to reality and stop living in fear'.

What a retard.

Of course this monkeypox is also fiddled with in some lab, and made only to create fear.Only people from G7 nations should be head of big organizations, so it cannot be bought easily and there is strong prevention for cheap corruption!

TraLaLax
06-17-22, 15:16
I need your help.

I'm looking for a new hangout. A club where I can visit 3-5 days in a row, relaxing and spending time with girls.

My hangout used to be Babylon (Elsdorf). Unfortunately, I've become quite fond of one the girls there, and she does not have the time for me, so being there just makes me sad.

So, I need to find a new favorite club. Luckily, I've got a shitload of frequent flyer points, so I can make quite a few recon trips to saunaclub-land this summer.

My first trip goes to NRW, north of Cologne. I've made a list of clubs I want to visit.

Potential clubs:

- Fredenhaus, Munster, https://www.freudenhaus.de.

- Fredenhaus, Dortmund, https://www.freudenhaus.de.

- Salome mens spa, Dortmund, https://fkk-salome.de.

- Club Venus, Hamminkeln, https://www.saunaclub-venus.de.

- Heaven's Gate, Dorsten, https://www.fkk-saunaclub-heavensgate.com.

- FKK Prime (Was Acapulco Velbert), Velbert, https://fkk-prime.de/.

- Saunaclub Sky, Wuppertal, http://www.sky-saunaclub.com.

My preferences are:

- Day club.

- I don't like dark and gloomy clubs.

- Good spa / wellness facilities. Good relax facilities. Also in winter time. Jacuzzi a big plus.

- Modern interior. I'm not into "harem interior".

- Price 100 euro / hour. At 130 euro I walk. Kissing / licking included in price. BBBJ not important to me.

- Girls have decent English skills. I like athletic girls with no silicone.

- Club cleanliness.

Comments.

I've previously visited Babylon (Elsdorf), Acapulco Gold, Heaven 7 (Rheingold) and Samya.

Question.

Do you guys know of other clubs I should visit? Are any of the clubs on my list shit?

Thanks in advance for feedback. I will post travel letters to this forum.

Zumboit
06-17-22, 22:10
I posted a report Thursday about my visit to Globe, comparing the experience to German Fkks.

My conclusion:

"I had been unsure about going to Globe. 6 years ago, when German fkks were 50/30, BBBJ included, Globe seemed overpriced. Now, between negotiating BBBJ, prices, and not getting upsold or underplayed, Globe feels like a great deal. BBBJ always, Real half hour, good looking girls, GFE, and Globe costs very little more than upselling German FKks".

Mr Ho
06-18-22, 04:35
I posted a report Thursday about my visit to Globe, comparing the experience to German Fkks.

My conclusion:

"I had been unsure about going to Globe. 6 years ago, when German fkks were 50/30, BBBJ included, Globe seemed overpriced. Now, between negotiating BBBJ, prices, and not getting upsold or underplayed, Globe feels like a great deal. BBBJ always, Real half hour, good looking girls, GFE, and Globe costs very little more than upselling German FKks".If you are not option lovers especially anal sex then globe is definitely better deal after summer 2017! So I am with you!

I do get similar session or sometimes even better in Germany, but it requires some negotiation and unsure momentum things as well and I do not like uncertainty where as at globe, it is certainty that I like!

However, if you are butt man, then globe is 200 chf for anal, so it add up, but again Ingo seems to know what he is doing comparison to most German FKK owner who do not care about details and I care for details!

Mr Ho
06-18-22, 09:19
I posted a report Thursday about my visit to Globe, comparing the experience to German Fkks.

My conclusion:

"I had been unsure about going to Globe. 6 years ago, when German fkks were 50/30, BBBJ included, Globe seemed overpriced. Now, between negotiating BBBJ, prices, and not getting upsold or underplayed, Globe feels like a great deal. BBBJ always, Real half hour, good looking girls, GFE, and Globe costs very little more than upselling German FKks".I also add that considering zurich restaurant price is so high like doner kebab cost you over 10 chf! And curry in cheap place cost you around 20 chf and it get higher in nicer restaurants, so I would say globe 95 chf entry fee is not bad at all if you eat 3 meals per day there! Ok, food is not the best of course, but their pasta is not that bad! Plus they cook it front of you and on Sunday they got nice brunch!

It is best to stay in zurich oerlikon, so you are in the middle between zurich hbf and also schwanbach where the globe is! Plus, oerlikon has good cheap resty and many coop super market if you need some food!

Be Wilder
06-18-22, 11:06
That's what I'm pondering. Been to Frankfurt FKKs umpteen times (favourites Sharks, Oase and Palace) but with 100/30 or E150 for 60 minutes now seemingly being standard for bbj, FK, and ro am wondering whether to try Globe next. Booking a trip to the UK soon but will make it a stop over in either Frankfurt and Zurich. May only be for 1 night which if Frankfurt was going to make it Oase as if all other things are equal (ie quality of line up) that's my favourite but is Globe really that much better than the Frankfurt fkks. I've only gleaned my perceptions from reading this forum but based on that I have the impression:

- globe has a better line up in terms of quality albeit girls are generally slightly older and more likely to be silicon enhanced (ie similar to Palace) and generally has 50-60 girls on most days. I'm most likely to go on a Saturday.

- globe girls are better groomed.

- is more expensive (150 chf for 30 minutes and presumably double that for 1 hour) but owo, FK and DATY are all standard and you actually get the fully allocated time.

My typical FKK night would be 2 one hour sessions with ciim in one session, a threesome and maybe 1 30 min fluffer session so in the old days that would come to E450-500. I would also have a massage for E60. It would now cost me E650-750 excluding the massage.

If I had three one on one sessions for an hour each at Globe (think I would drop the CIM, threesome and fluffer session) it would cost the best part of CHF900? Aside from the novelty value and I would like to visit it to tick off and see for myself if it's matches the hype, it would seem Frankfurt would offer better value unless the girls are genuinely much better looking and service levels higher.

Mr Ho
06-18-22, 11:22
That's what I'm pondering. Been to Frankfurt FKKs umpteen times (favourites Sharks, Oase and Palace) but with 100/30 or E150 for 60 minutes now seemingly being standard for bbj, FK, and ro am wondering whether to try Globe next. Booking a trip to the UK soon but will make it a stop over in either Frankfurt and Zurich. May only be for 1 night which if Frankfurt was going to make it Oase as if all other things are equal (ie quality of line up) that's my favourite but is Globe really that much better than the Frankfurt fkks. I've only gleaned my perceptions from reading this forum but based on that I have the impression:

- globe has a better line up in terms of quality albeit girls are generally slightly older and more likely to be silicon enhanced (ie similar to Palace) and generally has 50-60 girls on most days. I'm most likely to go on a Saturday.

- globe girls are better groomed.

- is more expensive (150 chf for 30 minutes and presumably double that for 1 hour) but owo, FK and DATY are all standard and you actually get the fully allocated time.

My typical FKK night would be 2 one hour sessions with ciim in one session, a threesome and maybe 1 30 min fluffer session so in the old days that would come to E450-500. I would also have a massage for E60. It would now cost me E650-750 excluding the massage.

If I had three one on one sessions for an hour each at Globe (think I would drop the CIM, threesome and fluffer session) it would cost the best part of CHF900? Aside from the novelty value and I would like to visit it to tick off and see for myself if it's matches the hype, it would seem Frankfurt would offer better value unless the girls are genuinely much better looking and service levels higher.CIM is 100 chf in globe, not 50 euro like in Frankfurt FKK, so option lover, globe can be a killer, but the service and 30 min is really 30 min is based on true story, as for lineup, I always found one or two stunners, but again, I am very picky, so most of things you read is true! Globe set up is bit like palace, but with rooftop open area which is a relief as palace have no place to breathe fresh air!

Sirioja
06-18-22, 11:39
That's what I'm pondering. Been to Frankfurt FKKs umpteen times (favourites Sharks, Oase and Palace) but with 100/30 or E150 for 60 minutes now seemingly being standard for bbj, FK, and ro am wondering whether to try Globe next. Booking a trip to the UK soon but will make it a stop over in either Frankfurt and Zurich. May only be for 1 night which if Frankfurt was going to make it Oase as if all other things are equal (ie quality of line up) that's my favourite but is Globe really that much better than the Frankfurt fkks. I've only gleaned my perceptions from reading this forum but based on that I have the impression:

- globe has a better line up in terms of quality albeit girls are generally slightly older and more likely to be silicon enhanced (ie similar to Palace) and generally has 50-60 girls on most days. I'm most likely to go on a Saturday.

- globe girls are better groomed.

- is more expensive (150 chf for 30 minutes and presumably double that for 1 hour) but owo, FK and DATY are all standard and you actually get the fully allocated time.

My typical FKK night would be 2 one hour sessions with ciim in one session, a threesome and maybe 1 30 min fluffer session so in the old days that would come to E450-500. I would also have a massage for E60. It would now cost me E650-750 excluding the massage.

If I had three one on one sessions for an hour each at Globe (think I would drop the CIM, threesome and fluffer session) it would cost the best part of CHF900? Aside from the novelty value and I would like to visit it to tick off and see for myself if it's matches the hype, it would seem Frankfurt would offer better value unless the girls are genuinely much better looking and service levels higher.Globe girls are no longer prettier when looks really fell. Even milfs now. Just no very ugly, but some are really not pretty and really not many worthing so expensive.

Be Wilder
06-18-22, 16:37
CIM is 100 chf in globe, not 50 euro like in Frankfurt FKK, so option lover, globe can be a killer, but the service and 30 min is really 30 min is based on true story, as for lineup, I always found one or two stunners, but again, I am very picky, so most of things you read is true! Globe set up is bit like palace, but with rooftop open area which is a relief as palace have no place to breathe fresh air!Yes, I wouldn't bother with extras like CIM at Globe except for maybe my first shot of the tour where I always like to give a girl a facial. Guess the threesomes would be out at those prices as well. Based on conventional tastes, objectively would you say there are more stunners at globe or average looks are higher than palace / Oase / sharks? Other place I've heard in Zurich is Aphrodisia which supposedly has only Victoria secrets model like stunners but is CHF500 an hour. Are the girls there really that fit?

Gino02
06-18-22, 19:46
Yes, I wouldn't bother with extras like CIM at Globe except for maybe my first shot of the tour where I always like to give a girl a facial. Guess the threesomes would be out at those prices as well. Based on conventional tastes, objectively would you say there are more stunners at globe or average looks are higher than palace / Oase / sharks? Other place I've heard in Zurich is Aphrodisia which supposedly has only Victoria secrets model like stunners but is CHF500 an hour. Are the girls there really that fit?Sounds like you already did the RTFF. Next unless you visit Globe / Aphrodisia and experience yourself, I don't believe you'll have a clearer understanding of looks, quality and service of their girls. I suggest take a plunge on Thu, Fri or Saturday (Sun, Mon, Tue are ok but less number of girls, Wed is slowest, so least number of girls). If you like it, do repeat visits. If not, don't repeat, and you'll also have a baseline based on your own experience when reading future reports from others.

For comparison, I have never experienced or heard of any situation like this (http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=2709984&viewfull=1#post2709984) at Globe.

Mr Ho
06-18-22, 23:32
Yes, I wouldn't bother with extras like CIM at Globe except for maybe my first shot of the tour where I always like to give a girl a facial. Guess the threesomes would be out at those prices as well. Based on conventional tastes, objectively would you say there are more stunners at globe or average looks are higher than palace / Oase / sharks? Other place I've heard in Zurich is Aphrodisia which supposedly has only Victoria secrets model like stunners but is CHF500 an hour. Are the girls there really that fit?I went there thinking all girls in globe line up is stunners, well it was not the case, but I would say it is like palace on good day with about 1 or 2 stunners in line up! but sadly you do see some girls with enhanced tits and girls with a lot of tattoos! I think Ingo tried to keep it natural beauty as he can, but given the situation in the industry, that is too hard!

However, other rumors like 30 min is 30 min, shower after session together on top of 30 min, DFK etc are done properly and no negotiations are needed for that!

Aphrodisia, I never been, but I have interest to go because I am landing in zurich at 8 pm on my way back home and I want to monger, but going to globe at 8 pm is bit too late to get tired line up after working all afternoon, so I might hit aphrodisia to get fresh evening line up, I hear the service may not be good there, for 500 chf, hmmm I might end up in globe after all LOL!

How about cleo? How are the line up, price and service there?

Derkd
06-18-22, 23:56
Hi guys,

I am particularly interested to have a session with a native german girl. Is there any FKK's near frankfurt where I can find them. From what I have heard they are not into the game.

Zumboit
06-19-22, 08:05
Do Globe on a Thursday. Fully nude day, big lineup. I found a lot of stunners. More choice than money. When you are basically just traveling to monger occasionally, the extra cost of Globe is well worth it. See my post in the Globe forum or Swiss Posts of Distinction.


That's what I'm pondering. Been to Frankfurt FKKs umpteen times (favorites Sharks, Oase and Palace) but with 100/30 or E150 for 60 minutes now seemingly being standard for BBJ FK, and ro am wondering whether to try Globe next. Booking a trip to the UK soon but will make it a stop over in either Frankfurt and Zurich. May only be for 1 night which if Frankfurt was going to make it Oase as if all other things are equal (ie quality of line up) that's my favorite but is Globe really that much better than the Frankfurt fkks. I've only gleaned my perceptions from reading this forum but based on that I have the impression:

- globe has a better line up in terms of quality albeit girls are generally slightly older and more likely to be silicon enhanced (ie similar to Palace) and generally has 50-60 girls on most days. I'm most likely to go on a Saturday.

- globe girls are better groomed.

- is more expensive (150 chf for 30 minutes and presumably double that for 1 hour) but owo, FK and DATY are all standard and you actually get the fully allocated time.

My typical FKK night would be 2 one hour sessions with CIM in one session, a threesome and maybe 1 30 min fluffer session so in the old days that would come to E450-500. I would also have a massage for E60. It would now cost me E650-750 excluding the massage.

If I had three one on one sessions for an hour each at Globe (think I would drop the CIM, threesome and fluffer session) it would cost the best part of CHF900? Aside from the novelty value and I would like to visit it to tick off and see for myself if it's matches the hype, it would seem Frankfurt would offer better value unless the girls are genuinely much better looking and service levels higher.

Pistons
06-19-22, 09:51
Yes, I wouldn't bother with extras like CIM at Globe except for maybe my first shot of the tour where I always like to give a girl a facial. Guess the threesomes would be out at those prices as well. Based on conventional tastes, objectively would you say there are more stunners at globe or average looks are higher than palace / Oase / sharks? Other place I've heard in Zurich is Aphrodisia which supposedly has only Victoria secrets model like stunners but is CHF500 an hour. Are the girls there really that fit?Well first, you might want to consider what type of girls you like. And what type of girls different posters here like. For me, my take in girls are quite equal to someone like Mr. Ho and Payforit. But hardly many others here on the forum. Unless you have some prior knowledge and remember many names, it might be hard for you to decide who to listen to. But what type of girls do you prefer? Any descriptions?

Beauty is hardly the same in everyone eyes. I thought most people had much more similar preference before I started going to fkks, but I was totally wrong.

Sirioja
06-19-22, 19:22
Hi guys,

I am particularly interested to have a session with a native german girl. Is there any FKK's near frankfurt where I can find them. From what I have heard they are not into the game.Book escort on ladies or kaufmich.

Sirioja
06-19-22, 19:28
Do Globe on a Thursday. Fully nude day, big lineup. I found a lot of stunners. More choice than money. When you are basically just traveling to monger occasionally, the extra cost of Globe is well worth it. See my post in the Globe forum or Swiss Posts of Distinction.Who were your stunners at Globe worthing 150/30 ? Because my eyes don t see and Globe don t even have the prettiest in ZH, when fell since 2019. I think most agree on the fall for quality when rates are increased.

Zumboit
06-19-22, 22:01
Srojah is a professional monger. His opinions have little value for the rest of us, while his knowledge of facilities and lineup is often valuable. His dismissal of Globe lineup means he is either unlucky, or that he has impossible standards.

I don't need to go with the prettiest girl in the room every time. But she does have to be pretty, slim, natural, and only mild tattoos. There were at least 10 who fit that category.

I mentioned Ada in my original Globe post. Absolutely a 10.


Who were your stunners at Globe worthing 150/30 ? Because my eyes don t see and Globe don t even have the prettiest in ZH, when fell since 2019. I think most agree on the fall for quality when rates are increased.

Sirioja
06-20-22, 07:14
Srojah is a professional monger. His opinions have little value for the rest of us, while his knowledge of facilities and lineup is often valuable. His dismissal of Globe lineup means he is either unlucky, or that he has impossible standards.

I don't need to go with the prettiest girl in the room every time. But she does have to be pretty, slim, natural, and only mild tattoos. There were at least 10 who fit that category.

I mentioned Ada in my original Globe post. Absolutely a 10.I agree as say girls I'm too picky and became pickier under first covid break on March / June 2020, when I looked at women in Paris. I didn't notice your Ada at Globe, but I agree slim, natural and almost no tattoo help for beauty. Hardest job for me is to find attractive, and really difficult now at Globe, then I try to make her good for me. On this year, I discovered and made 3 great girls for me and also a real cutie on Friday night at Dietikon. I would choose her at Globe, when I got her for only 200 for a bit more than 1 hour. Unfortunately, Globe really fell for looks, with now mostly same level of looks than in Germany and porn culture which don't help for charm.

Be Wilder
06-20-22, 14:28
Hi guys,

I am particularly interested to have a session with a native german girl. Is there any FKK's near frankfurt where I can find them. From what I have heard they are not into the game.There always used to be around half a dozen or so at Palace so that's probably your best bet. Also a few at Sharks back in the day and rare at Oase (think I only ever came across one back in 2012) so I'the say Palace is your best bet.

Tintin1
06-20-22, 14:50
Well first, you might want to consider what type of girls you like. And what type of girls different posters here like. For me, my take in girls are quite equal to someone like Mr. Ho and Payforit. But hardly many others here on the forum. Unless you have some prior knowledge and remember many names, it might be hard for you to decide who to listen to. But what type of girls do you prefer? Any descriptions?

Beauty is hardly the same in everyone eyes. I thought most people had much more similar preference before I started going to fkks, but I was totally wrong.I would agree with you on this AND I think my take on 'beauty' probably lies closer to you'all, but selection is more than an algorithm on face shape and body / breast size. There is a lady I see in another FKK and almost everyone would rate her lower than quite a few in looks and body condition but she is amazing in the room! Top 3 Skilled in speaking French. I schedule my visits around her but I'm not sure I remember how I picked her. Obviously not purely on looks. Sometimes a girl will strike up a conversation and the mood hits l, pulling you in with her charms. All very intangible qualities. Still, there are guys for whom the difference between a 6 and a 8/9 relates to the price -- 50430 and the girl's rating soars!

I've slept with porn stars and ex Playboy models who do everything right but so mechanically that I look over and think not cute and other girls who know my prostate better than my doctor and she's at least a 7 (joke)! Who's to say which might be better til you're in the room Relax. Enjoy and repeat! And report!

MythoVirus
06-20-22, 22:49
It has been 2 years since I stepped back into an FKK, I have been in FKK game since 2016 around 10 vecation visits, and as the saying goes, any day in FKK is a good day, though this statment holds its grounds, unfortunately FKK clubs has severly went downhill, I don't like complaining but it is sadly the reality of it.

By no means, an FKK club isn't worth visiting, and speaking about myself I will continue my comebacks like every 2-3 months, but if it continous spirling down any further its going to be hard to find the motivation to take a 6 h airplane trips; official annual leave from work, buy tickets, book hotels, arrenge car travels etc. For FKK if they keep getting worse.

In past week, I went to.

-Hessen World / Oase.

-NRW Babylon / Mondial / Samya (twice)/.

* AcapulcoGold / Prime / Magnum / Oceans.

-Clubs I wanted to try but were closed Dolce Vita (NRW), FKK Villa Hannover.

So I frequented many clubs, and each has had a problem or more as follows:

Issue 1: Drastic price increases.

-World / Oase / Samya / Magnum were the main culprits of 100% inflation.

I almost didn't find any lady (except 1 or 2 low beauty WG) of any of the mentioned clubs that agreed for 50 Euro BBBJ. They all asked for 100 Euro for BBBJ 30 minutes, exception waa one pretty girl in Oase that agreed for normal price BBBJ but that was an anomly rather than the rule.

-Major props for managment teams in Babylon / Acapulco / Mondial / Prime for controlling the prices as almost all girls provide a BBBJ service for 50 or less for 30 minute.

Issue 2:

-All most all clubs suffered from worse LU, and worse number of girls, so by essense both quality and quantity got hit hard, and for timebeing, at least IMO this can be swallowed for timebeing as covid effect didn't entirely wean off, so this issue might be resolved with little patience, unlike the price hikes that are here to stay.

-Side note Samya / AcapulcoGold had the best LU compared to others, not great LU but its better than the others. Oase LU was ok but as Oase was always my fav club I wasnt happy how it turned out LU wise and the 100 Euro BS wise.

-Prime / Magnium / Mondial / Babylon / World each had 1-2 Max acceptable girl (acceptable only not super beautiful), and some of them had zero, pure skanky looking WG, obese, older than MILF, purley unattractive WG that you will surely leavs the club with blue balls and zero sessions.

Issue 3: Public action is no more.

-I'm a 100% pro public action guy, in fact it was among the most common reason to get me back in an FKK club, as it wasnt found in other P4 P establishemnts, I remember and 2016, you get a few minute BBBJ in oase public bar area as the NORM before going to the room and without even asking and most girls will be happy to BBBJ in public for entire session with sex. Or in World in the basment or Shisha area BBBJ in public before a room.

-Out of all my visits in past week around 10 FKK club visits, I only noticed one public area BJ and that was in Babylon, and 1 BJ in kino area in babylon and that's it, nothing else, not any other club, no public BJ, no public sex, no kino action, no nothing, maybe here and there you see a kiss or two and that's the most perverted thing you will notice.

-and. Be I didn't ask many if any girls for public action yet, so I might be wrong, but I'm confident 90% and more won't provide it, or if so will ask for a rubbish price like 200 Euro for 30 minute in public if not more.

Issue 4: Less real talk in bar, or affection, and straight away lets get to the room kind of talk, and the increase of sharkiness.

-Most girls don't care to arouse you prior to sealing the deal, most girls are having the attitude of "want sex?" If yes you go to room, if the answer is no, you either hear them complain, roll an eye, or ignore you for the entire night. Still some girls do try to convience you in proper way with small talk, and by touching you etc, but its much less happening compared to before in a noticable way.

-The most talk you wear hear is either mechanical "where you are from, how the are you etc. " or you hear the upsells that kills the mood.

Issue 5: FKK Oceans.

-If you were aware I mentioned I went to Oceans, but I didn't comment on it earlier, as oceans deserve to have its own place, at the peak of most BS club I went too.

-Out all of my FKK journies no club was as bad as oceans. The rudeness of WG there is in another level, upsells through the roof, one even quoted 200 Euro for 30 minute, others don't do BBBJ for 100-150 Euro for 30 minute, and what's sad is, they werent even high beauty girls, just a 6 out of 10 kind of girls, with those behaviors. I don't want to waste time about Oceans, but if you will trust me on this, scratch Oceans from your go to list, no ifs no buts its 100% not worth it.

This was a short venting post, I still have faith that FKK can be restored back to an acceptable level, yes the golden days will never return, but the way FKK clubs are heading right now, if they get any worse in the future it will be hard to bargain a trip for it. I think LU / Quality will only need time to settle back to a good level, but the attitude of girls, the absurd inflation, the highly variable prices from each WG compared to other, if the management will not be pro-active with it, then I'm sure it will not get any better and will snowball downhill.

I still have like 5 days to go, I will check out Sharks / Palace / Mainhatten / and Oase, though I'm almost convinced they won't be any better.

Henri Dufresne
06-21-22, 04:51
Hello,

I don't live near Germany, and I notice that unfortunately, there is no way to see what kind of woman we kind find in the FKK clubs. I wish it was possible to see videos of a presentation of the women with blurred faces. Are there some places online where it is possible to see such thing?

Samplerr
06-21-22, 09:51
Hello,

I don't live near Germany, and I notice that unfortunately, there is no way to see what kind of woman we kind find in the FKK clubs. I wish it was possible to see videos of a presentation of the women with blurred faces. Are there some places online where it is possible to see such thing?Some examples from DE, CH and AT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNahisHBDE4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOUV0KB2GnI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNqZZpJKk7Q

Pistons
06-21-22, 12:23
Hello,

I don't live near Germany, and I notice that unfortunately, there is no way to see what kind of woman we kind find in the FKK clubs. I wish it was possible to see videos of a presentation of the women with blurred faces. Are there some places online where it is possible to see such thing?At the moment only FKK Wellcum and FKK Andiamo in Villach has some sort of good online PR thing going on where you get a sense of the atmosphere and the actual real girls who work there. In Germany you have to have been there more. I don't know if this is due to German regulations or not, since in the past a few German clubs did show pictures of the girls, but not any longer.

Wellcum (and Andiamo. Same owner and managers) has youtube page, facebook, instagram and telegram groups. So there you can see some. But don't expect the same standards everywhere. Wellcum is always a top 3 FKK club across Germany / Switzerland / Austria. Sharks has mostly been up there in the past also. Maybe not now from what I am reading. Maybe Oase still is from what I am reading. But after covid things might have changed many places.

DrPoon
06-21-22, 19:14
So much for the theory that Ukrainian girls were going to come in to save the day. Might as well delete the sanctions and stop giving aid to them since they can't even do a simple favor to make FKK great again.


It has been 2 years since I stepped back into an FKK, I have been in FKK game since 2016 around 10 vecation visits, and as the saying goes, any day in FKK is a good day, though this statment holds its grounds, unfortunately FKK clubs has severly went downhill, I don't like complaining but it is sadly the reality of it.

By no means, an FKK club isn't worth visiting, and speaking about myself I will continue my comebacks like every 2-3 months, but if it continous spirling down any further its going to be hard to find the motivation to take a 6 h airplane trips; official annual leave from work, buy tickets, book hotels, arrenge car travels etc. For FKK if they keep getting worse.

In past week, I went to.

-Hessen World / Oase.

-NRW Babylon / Mondial / Samya (twice)/.

* AcapulcoGold / Prime / Magnum / Oceans.

-Clubs I wanted to try but were closed Dolce Vita (NRW), FKK Villa Hannover.

So I frequented many clubs, and each has had a problem or more as follows:

Issue 1: Drastic price increases.

-World / Oase / Samya / Magnum were the main culprits of 100% inflation..

Sirioja
06-21-22, 21:22
At the moment only FKK Wellcum and FKK Andiamo in Villach has some sort of good online PR thing going on where you get a sense of the atmosphere and the actual real girls who work there. In Germany you have to have been there more. I don't know if this is due to German regulations or not, since in the past a few German clubs did show pictures of the girls, but not any longer.

Wellcum (and Andiamo. Same owner and managers) has youtube page, facebook, instagram and telegram groups. So there you can see some. But don't expect the same standards everywhere. Wellcum is always a top 3 FKK club across Germany / Switzerland / Austria. Sharks has mostly been up there in the past also. Maybe not now from what I am reading. Maybe Oase still is from what I am reading. But after covid things might have changed many places.You can't say Wellcum is high level for girls, with many silicon, small pussies. GT Vienna and Germany are higher level for girls, when Italians chat but don't kiss. Sharks was really higher level on last year, but fell on 2022.

Mr Ho
06-21-22, 21:55
At the moment only FKK Wellcum and FKK Andiamo in Villach has some sort of good online PR thing going on where you get a sense of the atmosphere and the actual real girls who work there. In Germany you have to have been there more. I don't know if this is due to German regulations or not, since in the past a few German clubs did show pictures of the girls, but not any longer.

Wellcum (and Andiamo. Same owner and managers) has youtube page, facebook, instagram and telegram groups. So there you can see some. But don't expect the same standards everywhere. Wellcum is always a top 3 FKK club across Germany / Switzerland / Austria. Sharks has mostly been up there in the past also. Maybe not now from what I am reading. Maybe Oase still is from what I am reading. But after covid things might have changed many places.Can you fuck girl in your room in hotel Wellcum? It is one place that I am planning to go!

SerpentX
06-22-22, 00:19
Yeah, I feel you. Poor LU and 100% inflated price makes FKK no longer THE place to monger. I will try Barcelona and Austral this summer but without much expectation. Shortage of fresh WGs seems to a worldwide problem. Just like labor force.


It has been 2 years since I stepped back into an FKK, I have been in FKK game since 2016 around 10 vecation visits, and as the saying goes, any day in FKK is a good day, though this statment holds its grounds, unfortunately FKK clubs has severly went downhill, I don't like complaining but it is sadly the reality of it.

By no means, an FKK club isn't worth visiting, and speaking about myself I will continue my comebacks like every 2-3 months, but if it continous spirling down any further its going to be hard to find the motivation to take a 6 h airplane trips; official annual leave from work, buy tickets, book hotels, arrenge car travels etc. For FKK if they keep getting worse.

In past week, I went to.

-Hessen World / Oase.

-NRW Babylon / Mondial / Samya (twice)/.

* AcapulcoGold / Prime / Magnum / Oceans.

-Clubs I wanted to try but were closed Dolce Vita (NRW), FKK Villa Hannover.

So I frequented many clubs, and each has had a problem or more as follows:

Issue 1: Drastic price increases.

-World / Oase / Samya / Magnum were the main culprits of 100% inflation.

I almost didn't find any lady (except 1 or 2 low beauty WG) of any of the mentioned clubs that agreed for 50 Euro BBBJ. They all asked for 100 Euro for BBBJ 30 minutes, exception waa one pretty girl in Oase that agreed for normal price BBBJ but that was an anomly rather than the rule.

-Major props for managment teams in Babylon / Acapulco / Mondial / Prime for controlling the prices as almost all girls provide a BBBJ service for 50 or less for 30 minute.

Issue 2:

-All most all clubs suffered from worse LU, and worse number of girls, so by essense both quality and quantity got hit hard, and for timebeing, at least IMO this can be swallowed for timebeing as covid effect didn't entirely wean off, so this issue might be resolved with little patience, unlike the price hikes that are here to stay.

-Side note Samya / AcapulcoGold had the best LU compared to others, not great LU but its better than the others. Oase LU was ok but as Oase was always my fav club I wasnt happy how it turned out LU wise and the 100 Euro BS wise.

-Prime / Magnium / Mondial / Babylon / World each had 1-2 Max acceptable girl (acceptable only not super beautiful), and some of them had zero, pure skanky looking WG, obese, older than MILF, purley unattractive WG that you will surely leavs the club with blue balls and zero sessions.

Issue 3: Public action is no more.

-I'm a 100% pro public action guy, in fact it was among the most common reason to get me back in an FKK club, as it wasnt found in other P4 P establishemnts, I remember and 2016, you get a few minute BBBJ in oase public bar area as the NORM before going to the room and without even asking and most girls will be happy to BBBJ in public for entire session with sex. Or in World in the basment or Shisha area BBBJ in public before a room.

-Out of all my visits in past week around 10 FKK club visits, I only noticed one public area BJ and that was in Babylon, and 1 BJ in kino area in babylon and that's it, nothing else, not any other club, no public BJ, no public sex, no kino action, no nothing, maybe here and there you see a kiss or two and that's the most perverted thing you will notice.

-and. Be I didn't ask many if any girls for public action yet, so I might be wrong, but I'm confident 90% and more won't provide it, or if so will ask for a rubbish price like 200 Euro for 30 minute in public if not more.

Issue 4: Less real talk in bar, or affection, and straight away lets get to the room kind of talk, and the increase of sharkiness.

-Most girls don't care to arouse you prior to sealing the deal, most girls are having the attitude of "want sex?" If yes you go to room, if the answer is no, you either hear them complain, roll an eye, or ignore you for the entire night. Still some girls do try to convience you in proper way with small talk, and by touching you etc, but its much less happening compared to before in a noticable way.

-The most talk you wear hear is either mechanical "where you are from, how the are you etc. " or you hear the upsells that kills the mood.

Issue 5: FKK Oceans.

-If you were aware I mentioned I went to Oceans, but I didn't comment on it earlier, as oceans deserve to have its own place, at the peak of most BS club I went too.

-Out all of my FKK journies no club was as bad as oceans. The rudeness of WG there is in another level, upsells through the roof, one even quoted 200 Euro for 30 minute, others don't do BBBJ for 100-150 Euro for 30 minute, and what's sad is, they werent even high beauty girls, just a 6 out of 10 kind of girls, with those behaviors. I don't want to waste time about Oceans, but if you will trust me on this, scratch Oceans from your go to list, no ifs no buts its 100% not worth it.

This was a short venting post, I still have faith that FKK can be restored back to an acceptable level, yes the golden days will never return, but the way FKK clubs are heading right now, if they get any worse in the future it will be hard to bargain a trip for it. I think LU / Quality will only need time to settle back to a good level, but the attitude of girls, the absurd inflation, the highly variable prices from each WG compared to other, if the management will not be pro-active with it, then I'm sure it will not get any better and will snowball downhill.

I still have like 5 days to go, I will check out Sharks / Palace / Mainhatten / and Oase, though I'm almost convinced they won't be any better.

Sirioja
06-22-22, 08:05
Can you fuck girl in your room in hotel Wellcum? It is one place that I am planning to go!Yes, You can take girls to your room at Wellcum, You just have to pay.

Gino02
06-22-22, 15:42
It has been 2 years since I stepped back into an FKK, I have been in FKK game since 2016 around 10 vecation visits, and as the saying goes, any day in FKK is a good day, though this statment holds its grounds, unfortunately FKK clubs has severly went downhill, I don't like complaining but it is sadly the reality of it.

By no means, an FKK club isn't worth visiting, and speaking about myself I will continue my comebacks like every 2-3 months, but if it continous spirling down any further its going to be hard to find the motivation to take a 6 h airplane trips; official annual leave from work, buy tickets, book hotels, arrenge car travels etc. For FKK if they keep getting worse.

In past week, I went to.

-Hessen World / Oase.

-NRW Babylon / Mondial / Samya (twice)/.

* AcapulcoGold / Prime / Magnum / Oceans.

-Clubs I wanted to try but were closed Dolce Vita (NRW), FKK Villa Hannover.

So I frequented many clubs, and each has had a problem or more as follows:

Issue 1: Drastic price increases...Hmmmm. This royally sucks for your trip! Apologies for your terrible experience mate! BTW, one thing I noticed is that if I increase the budget to the Swiss Globe rates, I get way better girls (still not as good as pre-pandemic Globe) and guaranteed service and full on public sex on stage at Globe. But then again, cost goes at least double, more so if I add any extras. Maybe I will have to reduce the number of FKK trips but spend more in each trip for the Globe girls to at least have the experience I want; otherwise travelling all the way to Europe for mongering becomes meaningless. BTW, in Globe, you can fuck girls on the stage for free (club gives free entry to the girls for this), which I take advantage of every time I am there.

Did you try (or thought of trying) Finca Erotica in Dierdorf? A lot of times that FKK in between Hesse and NRW was my savior in the past, somehow they had few teeny gems every time I was there in last 5 years, prices old 50/30, and most teeny girls were into public / semi-public sex (some thought I am crazy, laughed at me but also enjoyed my craziness LOL).

MythoVirus
06-23-22, 00:45
Hmmmm. This royally sucks for your trip! Apologies for your terrible experience mate! BTW, one thing I noticed is that if I increase the budget to the Swiss Globe rates, I get way better girls (still not as good as pre-pandemic Globe) and guaranteed service and full on public sex on stage at Globe. But then again, cost goes at least double, more so if I add any extras. Maybe I will have to reduce the number of FKK trips but spend more in each trip for the Globe girls to at least have the experience I want; otherwise travelling all the way to Europe for mongering becomes meaningless. BTW, in Globe, you can fuck girls on the stage for free (club gives free entry to the girls for this), which I take advantage of every time I am there.

Did you try (or thought of trying) Finca Erotica in Dierdorf? A lot of times that FKK in between Hesse and NRW was my savior in the past, somehow they had few teeny gems every time I was there in last 5 years, prices old 50/30, and most teeny girls were into public / semi-public sex (some thought I am crazy, laughed at me but also enjoyed my craziness LOL).Yeah I'm considering to give Globe a try, it seems the most bang for one's buck with zero mood killing with upsells and you get the the real time instead of a rushed 15 minute.

Finca Erotica never tried it, will keep it in mind.

On a good note, I checked sharks today, yeah 100 Euro is the norm ofc, but truth to be told they had a very good lineup, and many girls did not rush for a session with a proper conversation. Sharks for sure has the best LU in Germany right now and by a significant quality. I never used to enjoy Sharks much, but it made my vacation worth it this time.

Pistons
06-23-22, 06:04
Yes, You can take girls to your room at Wellcum, You just have to pay.No extra pay for that. At least it want last summer.

Pistons
06-23-22, 06:16
You can't say Wellcum is high level for girls, with many silicon, small pussies. GT Vienna and Germany are higher level for girls, when Italians chat but don't kiss. Sharks was really higher level on last year, but fell on 2022.But I am saying it. Of course not all girls there are for everyone. But when I consistently find 10 girls in a club that I like, then it's a top 3 club for me in Europe. Those numbers are rare. During covid it didn't reach 10 for me, but now it seems to be back to those numbers again.

I'll make you a list here of 12 girls right now at wellcum listed as being there: Crina, Elisa, Emma, Helena, Leah, Lorena, Madelina, Mika, Olga, Ramona, Trisha, Valentina.

And that is just among the girls there I know I could go with. Lots of blanks or girls I haven't seen yet nor been with also. I know you don't like the silicon tits of Olga, and in general have a different taste than me. But others may have a similar taste in girls. A lot of top girls have gone missing from wellcum, and I could have listed maybe 50 girls like that over the past 5 years, but they have managed to somehow replace most of them to a good extent.

Pistons
06-23-22, 12:14
But I have stopped hyping up certain particular girls in any particular clubs now. Because the only thing that will happen is that some dudes from Dubai will read it, and they listen to me (reasonable of course) and hire the girls for jobs there instead. Or however it works in Dubai, I don't really know.

Sirioja
06-23-22, 13:22
Yeah I'm considering to give Globe a try, it seems the most bang for one's buck with zero mood killing with upsells and you get the the real time instead of a rushed 15 minute.

Finca Erotica never tried it, will keep it in mind.

On a good note, I checked sharks today, yeah 100 Euro is the norm ofc, but truth to be told they had a very good lineup, and many girls did not rush for a session with a proper conversation. Sharks for sure has the best LU in Germany right now and by a significant quality. I never used to enjoy Sharks much, but it made my vacation worth it this time.If You found Sharks casting good at the moment, I wonder who are beauties? But You should find beauties at Globe, even less natural on average and more expensive. Both casting are low level for me on 2022. I find better elsewhere in Germany and Switzerland for less expensive.

Sirioja
06-23-22, 20:27
But I am saying it. Of course not all girls there are for everyone. But when I consistently find 10 girls in a club that I like, then it's a top 3 club for me in Europe. Those numbers are rare. During covid it didn't reach 10 for me, but now it seems to be back to those numbers again.

I'll make you a list here of 12 girls right now at wellcum listed as being there: Crina, Elisa, Emma, Helena, Leah, Lorena, Madelina, Mika, Olga, Ramona, Trisha, Valentina.

And that is just among the girls there I know I could go with. Lots of blanks or girls I haven't seen yet nor been with also. I know you don't like the silicon tits of Olga, and in general have a different taste than me. But others may have a similar taste in girls. A lot of top girls have gone missing from wellcum, and I could have listed maybe 50 girls like that over the past 5 years, but they have managed to somehow replace most of them to a good extent.Don't tell Russian speaking MILF Olga is pretty to pay for, even I love Russian words in sex, but I won't pay for such look. Bulgarian Lea is lovely, but not what I call pretty. And I didn't even notice others on my 3 or 4 visits on last Summer. I don't even plan to return on this Summer, when one but silicon is at 6 NL. Beautiful club with good foods, but very average for girls. GT Vienna should be higher level for me.

Mr Ho
06-23-22, 22:41
But I have stopped hyping up certain particular girls in any particular clubs now. Because the only thing that will happen is that some dudes from Dubai will read it, and they listen to me (reasonable of course) and hire the girls for jobs there instead. Or however it works in Dubai, I don't really know.Muslim people believe in god, so they do not buy prostitutes or have any sex before marriage! Well, that is what they say in front LOL! In general, those who believe in religion / god the most are the worst ones for everything in life LOL! I wonder why that is though?

The Cane
06-24-22, 00:58
Muslim people believe in god, so they do not buy prostitutes or have any sex before marriage! Well, that is what they say in front LOL! In general, those who believe in religion / god the most are the worst ones for everything in life LOL! I wonder why that is though?And they do lots of cornholing too since the bride must not have a broken flower at marriage LOL! It's OK to break the puckered, rosebud of a booty hole, but not the vaginal flower LOLOLOL! I ass fucked a cute Moroccan girl in Barcelona and it was very, very good haha!

DrPoon
06-24-22, 06:16
Muslim people believe in god, so they do not buy prostitutes or have any sex before marriage! Well, that is what they say in front LOL! In general, those who believe in religion / god the most are the worst ones for everything in life LOL! I wonder why that is though?Muslims are allowed a temporary marriage for 30 minute sessions and then an oral divorce (no pun intended).

Be Wilder
06-24-22, 06:35
But I have stopped hyping up certain particular girls in any particular clubs now. Because the only thing that will happen is that some dudes from Dubai will read it, and they listen to me (reasonable of course) and hire the girls for jobs there instead. Or however it works in Dubai, I don't really know.Keep reporting. I promise I won't entice them to Dubai! That said, when I've mentioned to FKK girls that I've come from Dubai, I've had lots ask me about the scene here, modus operandi, prices, security (in terms of law) etc and I recognised a girl in Oase once from a club in Dubai and she confirmed it was her! You get a few Romanians here but it's more secure and easier for them to make the same money in Germany but we're blessed with hordes of Russians and Ukrainians etc who don't have the same options.

DrPoon
06-24-22, 07:16
Keep reporting. I promise I won't entice them to Dubai! That said, when I've mentioned to FKK girls that I've come from Dubai, I've had lots ask me about the scene here, modus operandi, prices, security (in terms of law) etc and I recognised a girl in Oase once from a club in Dubai and she confirmed it was her! You get a few Romanians here but it's more secure and easier for them to make the same money in Germany but we're blessed with hordes of Russians and Ukrainians etc who don't have the same options.Point of information: All Ukrainian women do have the option of migrating to Germany since the start of the special military operation by Comrade P.

Mr Ho
06-24-22, 07:34
Keep reporting. I promise I won't entice them to Dubai! That said, when I've mentioned to FKK girls that I've come from Dubai, I've had lots ask me about the scene here, modus operandi, prices, security (in terms of law) etc and I recognised a girl in Oase once from a club in Dubai and she confirmed it was her! You get a few Romanians here but it's more secure and easier for them to make the same money in Germany but we're blessed with hordes of Russians and Ukrainians etc who don't have the same options.Is BBBJ common in Dubai? How are the pricing in Dubai?

Sirioja
06-24-22, 07:54
Keep reporting. I promise I won't entice them to Dubai! That said, when I've mentioned to FKK girls that I've come from Dubai, I've had lots ask me about the scene here, modus operandi, prices, security (in terms of law) etc and I recognised a girl in Oase once from a club in Dubai and she confirmed it was her! You get a few Romanians here but it's more secure and easier for them to make the same money in Germany but we're blessed with hordes of Russians and Ukrainians etc who don't have the same options.Not EU or brother countries can t get registration in Germany. When EU is welcoming Ukraine and Moldavia, maybe things will change. Russians escort in Paris, but can t work in FKK where only claimed Russian but not able to speak.

The Cane
06-24-22, 17:42
Is BBBJ common in Dubai? How are the pricing in Dubai?Dubai is the second most expensive destination in the world I have mongered in behind Switzerland. It's also one of the few places where I wasn't able to procure any anal. You can get BBBJs, but many of the women there don't want to do that. It's been awhile, so I don't recall pricing specifics. I love the diversity of women you can find in Dubai (best of any place in the world I have ever been), but otherwise I would not return to the UAE for the sole purpose of mongering. There are plenty of other better choices for spending your money for your pleasure.

Sirioja
06-24-22, 18:46
Point of information: All Ukrainian women do have the option of migrating to Germany since the start of the special military operation by Comrade P.But don't mean registration to work.

Mr Ho
06-24-22, 22:02
Dubai is the second most expensive destination in the world I have mongered in behind Switzerland. It's also one of the few places where I wasn't able to procure any anal. You can get BBBJs, but many of the women there don't want to do that. It's been awhile, so I don't recall pricing specifics. I love the diversity of women you can find in Dubai (best of any place in the world I have ever been), but otherwise I would not return to the UAE for the sole purpose of mongering. There are plenty of other better choices for spending your money for your pleasure.So Germany, Switzerland and Brazil remain the best place haven for us rare bleed flying mongers LOL! Oh how we appreciate these nations LOL!

Brazil sound like amazing place to live too, if it is more safer than what I have heard even from Brazilian people themselves! I have been told it is really dangerous!

But as we once agreed, it is better to live far away to mongering place as it is too destructing for us to live too close to it, I kinda enjoy doing it few trips per year than every week or every few days!

Mr Ho
06-25-22, 00:16
Dubai is the second most expensive destination in the world I have mongered in behind Switzerland. It's also one of the few places where I wasn't able to procure any anal. You can get BBBJs, but many of the women there don't want to do that. It's been awhile, so I don't recall pricing specifics. I love the diversity of women you can find in Dubai (best of any place in the world I have ever been), but otherwise I would not return to the UAE for the sole purpose of mongering. There are plenty of other better choices for spending your money for your pleasure.P.S.: One place I would be interested to monger is Lebanon, beautiful girls, messed up economy and arguably more liberal bunch of Arabs, but I thin we will face same issue as Dubai there like harder BBBJ etc, so it sound like best to focus on Germany to catch immigrants for diversity mongering! I found some half Arabs in German FKK as so many diverse immigrants in Germany thanks to their 180 degree policy change after second world war!

Egy Monger New
06-25-22, 06:28
but I thin we will face same issue as Dubai there like harder BBBJ etc,Actually Arab chics, like South East Asians, are completely OK with BBFS and BBBJ. It is the standard.

TraLaLax
06-25-22, 09:33
Great service and prices, modern clean facilities and friendly staff. Visiting the club is like trip back to pre-pandemic times.

* Facilities.

The inside has a dining area, kino, bar / lounge area, sauna and whirlpool. The wellness area is integrated into the bar / lounge area, but is separated by a glass wall. There is a nice garden with sunbeds, sitting groups and whirlpools.

The club has a modern nightclub interior. The mood, however, was relaxed rather than a partylike.

The lighting has a purple hue to it, which gives the place a neon like feel. See: https://www.saunaclub-venus.de/galerie/.

The facilities are well-kept and clean.

* Staff.

Friendly and helpful staff. Decent English skills.

* Food.

I arrived too late for lunch / breakfast.

You order from a menu. Beef, schnitzels, salads and pizzas are available. I had a schnitzel and a pizza. The schnitzel was ok, but I recommend the pizza, as it was restaurant quality.

At one time the bar maid handed out free ice cream, which was a nice touch.

* Girls.

I arrived at the club at 16:00 on Thursday. I'm guessing that there were about 10-12 girls there at day.

The girls seemed happy. They were chatting with each other and clients, laughing and smiling. It created a good atmosphere.

There were quite a few good looking girls, and the height-to-weight ratio was the best I've seen in any club post-pandemic. A couple of stunners, not much silicone, many normal body and only one overweight.

At one time, during rush hour, the visible lineup was down to two women. However, because the quality of the lineup was good, I did not have to wait long before a girl I wanted was available.

Many girls have good English skills. All were naked. I saw public action.

Spent time with Hana and Maya. One half hour room and one full hour room. Both girls were very nice, pleasant to talk to, and provided excellent service.

* Prices.

Entry was 50 euro, but only one meal is included, and beer is extra, so I ended up paying 70 euro total.

Girls charge 50 euro / half hour and 100 euro / hour. Licking, kissing and BBBJ included.

* Getting there.

The regional train goes door-to-door from Dusseldorf airport and Dusseldorf central station. Exit train at Hamminkeln station, take left, walk 100 meters. Train leaves every hour.

The Cane
06-25-22, 13:23
Actually Arab chics, like South East Asians, are completely OK with BBFS and BBBJ. It is the standard.The fact of the matter is that most of the women working in Dubai aren't Arab chicks. They are in the vast minority. I have barebacked one Arab tute. That was in Morocco. Getting BBBJs in Dubai isn't as hard as Ho makes it sound, but it isn't as easy as in Brazil or Germany either. And getting anal in Dubai definitely isn't easy. Just read the reports in those threads. And that was my experience too.

Mr Ho
06-25-22, 13:55
Actually Arab chics, like South East Asians, are completely OK with BBFS and BBBJ. It is the standard.Well, I am there to monger, not to date anyone, but tutes liking you helps a lot during the sessions LOL!

Prostitution seems legal in Lebanon, but none of the entity is permitted since 1970's I read! Where can mongers go to fuck stunner level arab girls, not some apes!

Be Wilder
06-25-22, 14:01
BBBJ is pretty much the norm in Dubai now but it's better to ask and confirm beforehand just to be on the safe side. Anal less rare (only done it once with an old regular within normal price) and offered it a coupe of times for extra but not my thing as I don't last very long with anal and I worry about the hygiene. BBFS is very rare and its not something I have ever tried to procure though my favourite regular offered it to me but I think she was trying to get pregnant and hoping I would marry her (in fairness she was one of the few girls I have met in this hobby where I thought if she wasnt a hooker and I met her in civilian life)

In the new world, pricing isn't too bad as there's been no hike post-Covid. You should be able to get a Russian etc stunner (ie equivalent to best girls in FKKs) for AED1500 which is about $400 which isn't too bad and that could be for all night but in reality 2 shots over 3-4 hours. At a push you might pay AEd2000 for cream of the crop but anything higher and you're paying over the odds. If you're lucky you can get a fit girl for AED1000 but it's all negotiable and so many variables such as looks, nationality, club, time of night, day of week, your negotiating skills etc. If you're into Asian (Chinese, Viets, Filipinos) or Africans (Kenyan, Ethiopian, Nigerian etc) you can maybe get the equivalent service for AEd600-800 or certainly AED1000 though the real stunners command the same as their white counterparts.

As someone has mentioned variety here is amazing. Whatever your flavour you'll find. Black, white, yellow, brown and all shades in between. In that respect following London's decline since brexit and the weak pound it's definitely the best place for variety of colours and nationalities in the world. Mainly Asians, Central Asia (ie Uzbeks etc and basically from all ex-soviet states), East Europe, Africa (both north especially Morocco and sub Sahara with healthy contingents from both west and east Africa), Indian subcontinent and other parts of the Middle East especially Iranian and Syrian.

The one major change in the market post-Covid has in fact been a positive development. Are now heaps of incall options (both agency and independents) mainly found on massage republic and you can have a stunner for an hour for AED1000 ($275) which isn't too different from current FKK rates. Mainly white and Asian advertise on MR and good looking Asians typically AED400-600 for an hour MR rates are also negotiable). My flavour is white girls supplemented by Central Asians who have a gorgeous Eurasian look about them and my go to agency charges AED800 for the hour and AED400 for 30 minutes. I think the change in law legalising sex before marriage together with Covid has seen an explosion in in-call options and that's become my modus operandi. Lots on Massage Republic now offering anal and other exotic options such as rimming.

The two things I always said Dubai lacked were good incall options for during the day and latinas but are now a decent amount of Brazilians and Colombians working. In fact have a couple of Brazilians earmarked as my next punts which Im looking forward to as along with Ukrainians I score them the highest when combining the two most important categories - looks and raunch factor.

Finally, are also heaps of massage parlours with a multitude of races but mainly Asian. All provide at least a HJ service and others full sex.

I probably wouldn't come here especially for a sex tour as the heyday was in the early to mid 2000's where you could get a stunner for all night for less than $200 but worth combining it with another activity like golf, beach, shopping, general holiday if that's your thing. That said plenty do, and if I was in Europe on my way to Thailand for a tour or from Korea etc on my way to Germany I would stop off for 48 hours and enjoy what Dubai has to offer especially as Emirates airline is better.

Personally, I prefer FKKs especially in the summer as lounging all day outside in the garden at say Oase surrounded by 80 nude females waiting to pleasure you when you’re ready is absolute bliss and there's nowhere like that in Dubai though I've heard one of the hotels on the Palm (Palm V) is pretty much tailor made for whoring with WGs milling around by its pool and beach so if that's true you can lounge around the pool / beach all day and grab a girl to take to your room as and when the mood takes you (apparently some of the girls have rooms there). I have yet to investigate.

So come some day and find out yourself - as the tourism tagline had it “Dubai is Open!”

The Cane
06-25-22, 14:27
BBBJ is pretty much the norm in Dubai now but it's better to ask and confirm beforehand just to be on the safe side. Anal less rare (only done it once with an old regular within normal price) and offered it a coupe of times for extra but not my thing as I don't last very long with anal and I worry about the hygiene. BBFS is very rare and its not something I have ever tried to procure though my favourite regular offered it to me but I think she was trying to get pregnant and hoping I would marry her (in fairness she was one of the few girls I have met in this hobby where I thought if she wasn't a hooker and I met her in civilian life)

As someone has mentioned variety here is amazing. Whatever your flavour you'll find. Black, white, yellow, brown and all shades in between. In that respect following London's decline since brexit and the weak pound it's definitely the best place for variety of colours and nationalities in the world. Mainly Asians, Central Asia (ie Uzbeks etc and basically from all ex-soviet states), East Europe, Africa (both north and sub sahara), Indian subcontinent and other parts of the Middle East especially Iranian and Syrian.I think this is spot on. BBFS and anal is not par for the course in Dubai. Not at all! And you had better ask about BBBJs first (a good idea anywhere really). And as your description of "the major food groups" shows, you're not in southeast Asia anymore LOL! That said, there are lots of Filipinas plying their wares in Dubai, and I found those to be the one most open to BBFS (just like back at home). One even told me how she had been impregnated fucking in Dubai and had to abort (think it was an Arab guy), thus making her reticent to bareback again. The thing is, if I wanted Filipinas girls, then I would go to the Philippines, not to Dubai! Dang!

The Cane
06-25-22, 17:40
Where can mongers go to fuck stunner level arab girls?I've had Arab tutes in three different countries: Morocco, Spain (also Moroccan), and Germany (Lebanese Christian). That said, my experience with Arab girls is limited. The ones in Morocco proper were willing to bareback. I have far more experience with Muslim Turkish girls (from Turkey itself versus some other place like Germany), but Turks are not Arabs. I have found that among the Muslim girls I have had the pleasure of, the Turkish girls fuck the best. Indeed, my accolades are as follows: Moroccans (the loosest); Jordanians (the prettiest); Turks (the dirtiest); Lebanese (honorable mention for all around attributes). I guess I've been around more Arab / Muslim girls than I realize LOL! Another group that has some hot women is the Iranians (if you can get them out from under all of those clothes). Of course, again Iranians are not Arabs. But, they've certainly been influenced by Arab culture and religion. I fucked a model-quality Iranian girl in Hamburg. Just gorgeous Mr. Ho. She was so fine, I had to munch out her Persian pooty pocket (butt hole) hahaha! She liked that. Very much so! Hehehe!

Be Wilder
06-25-22, 18:37
The other thing I would add about Dubai is that post covid, the quality of girls has gone up both generally and in this profession. I put it down to it being one of the first places to re-open and the Russia / Ukraine war with more hotties coming over as the economic situation deteriorates in their home country (especially from Russia).

Gino02
06-25-22, 19:22
I've had Arab tutes in three different countries: Morocco, Spain (also Moroccan), and Germany (Lebanese Christian). That said, my experience with Arab girls is limited. The ones in Morocco proper were willing to bareback. I have far more experience with Muslim Turkish girls (from Turkey itself versus some other place like Germany), but Turks are not Arabs. I have found that among the Muslim girls I have had the pleasure of, the Turkish girls fuck the best. Indeed, my accolades are as follows: Moroccans (the loosest); Jordanians (the prettiest); Turks (the dirtiest); Lebanese (honorable mention for all around attributes). I guess I've been around more Arab / Muslim girls than I realize LOL! Another group that has some hot women is the Iranians (if you can get them out from under all of those clothes). Of course, again Iranians are not Arabs. But, they've certainly been influenced by Arab culture and religion. I fucked a model-quality Iranian girl in Hamburg. Just gorgeous Mr. Ho. She was so fine, I had to munch out her Persian pooty pocket (butt hole) hahaha! She liked that. Very much so! Hehehe!This guideline by Dr. Cane should be in "Reports of Distinction".

Mr Ho
06-25-22, 21:47
I've had Arab tutes in three different countries: Morocco, Spain (also Moroccan), and Germany (Lebanese Christian). That said, my experience with Arab girls is limited. The ones in Morocco proper were willing to bareback. I have far more experience with Muslim Turkish girls (from Turkey itself versus some other place like Germany), but Turks are not Arabs. I have found that among the Muslim girls I have had the pleasure of, the Turkish girls fuck the best. Indeed, my accolades are as follows: Moroccans (the loosest); Jordanians (the prettiest); Turks (the dirtiest); Lebanese (honorable mention for all around attributes). I guess I've been around more Arab / Muslim girls than I realize LOL! Another group that has some hot women is the Iranians (if you can get them out from under all of those clothes). Of course, again Iranians are not Arabs. But, they've certainly been influenced by Arab culture and religion. I fucked a model-quality Iranian girl in Hamburg. Just gorgeous Mr. Ho. She was so fine, I had to munch out her Persian pooty pocket (butt hole) hahaha! She liked that. Very much so! Hehehe!I had Arabs in German FKK and also in Switzerland, but I never mongered in Dubai yet, but as you know I have been to Dubai for just normal holiday!

Turks, yes I have also in FKK and they are also good hearted too and yeah they are good in bed and dirty LOL!

Persian, I had Eurasians that are half Iranian and half Japanese, and wow they were exotic beauties, but unfortunately, I never had Iranian girls that is 100 % Iranian yet! But I would like to LOL!

Mr Ho
06-25-22, 21:58
BBBJ is pretty much the norm in Dubai now but it's better to ask and confirm beforehand just to be on the safe side. Anal less rare (only done it once with an old regular within normal price) and offered it a coupe of times for extra but not my thing as I don't last very long with anal and I worry about the hygiene. BBFS is very rare and its not something I have ever tried to procure though my favourite regular offered it to me but I think she was trying to get pregnant and hoping I would marry her (in fairness she was one of the few girls I have met in this hobby where I thought if she wasnt a hooker and I met her in civilian life)

In the new world, pricing isn't too bad as there's been no hike post-Covid. You should be able to get a Russian etc stunner (ie equivalent to best girls in FKKs) for AED1500 which is about $400 which isn't too bad and that could be for all night but in reality 2 shots over 3-4 hours. At a push you might pay AEd2000 for cream of the crop but anything higher and you're paying over the odds. If you're lucky you can get a fit girl for AED1000 but it's all negotiable and so many variables such as looks, nationality, club, time of night, day of week, your negotiating skills etc. If you're into Asian (Chinese, Viets, Filipinos) or Africans (Kenyan, Ethiopian, Nigerian etc) you can maybe get the equivalent service for AEd600-800 or certainly AED1000 though the real stunners command the same as their white counterparts.

As someone has mentioned variety here is amazing. Whatever your flavour you'll find. Black, white, yellow, brown and all shades in between. In that respect following London's decline since brexit and the weak pound it's definitely the best place for variety of colours and nationalities in the world. Mainly Asians, Central Asia (ie Uzbeks etc and basically from all ex-soviet states), East Europe, Africa (both north especially Morocco and sub Sahara with healthy contingents from both west and east Africa), Indian subcontinent and other parts of the Middle East especially Iranian and Syrian.Basically, Dubai seems to have disco set up where you go to disco like you are going to normal disco, but all or most of girls inside are prostitutes, so you just have to find the look you like and approach her subtly to see if she is a prostitute or not which can be quite a hassle as she can in some rare case can be a normal girl with a guy and here is me asking her if she is a prostitute basically LOL! But I heat almost all are prostitutes in certain discos! And higher up the level of the disco is in 5 star hotels, the higher level of stunners are expected to be there and 500 usd is not bad price if DFK and BBBJ is often included!

Dubai sound like nice place to live, tax free! Nice beach, good food, safe, and options of say 300 to 500 usd for different varieties of stunners are available during night time! I hope it stays liberal as it sound like now! And the cost of living in Dubai is not that bad right?

DrPoon
06-26-22, 00:28
Just a point of inquiry here.

Isn't it going to be like 130 degrees Farenheight in Dubai for the next coming months?

At that rate you can't wait outside at a bus stop or train, which I assume there are no trains there but busses are out. So that would mean you would need a rental car with really good tint and air conditioning. So what are the rental car and hotel room rates there?


BBBJ is pretty much the norm in Dubai now but it's better to ask and confirm beforehand just to be on the safe side. Anal less rare (only done it once with an old regular within normal price) and offered it a coupe of times for extra but not my thing as I don't last very long with anal and I worry about the hygiene. BBFS is very rare and its not something I have ever tried to procure though my favourite regular offered it to me but I think she was trying to get pregnant and hoping I would marry her (in fairness she was one of the few girls I have met in this hobby where I thought if she wasnt a hooker and I met her in civilian life)

In the new world, pricing isn't too bad as there's been no hike post-Covid. You should be able to get a Russian etc stunner (ie equivalent to best girls in FKKs) for AED1500 which is about $400 which isn't too bad and that could be for all night but in reality 2 shots over 3-4 hours. At a push you might pay AEd2000 for cream of the crop but anything higher and you're paying over the odds. If you're lucky you can get a fit girl for AED1000 but it's all negotiable and so many variables such as looks, nationality, club, time of night, day of week, your negotiating skills etc. If you're into Asian (Chinese, Viets, Filipinos) or Africans (Kenyan, Ethiopian, Nigerian etc) you can maybe get the equivalent service for AEd600-800 or certainly AED1000 though the real stunners command the same as their white counterparts.

Mr Ho
06-26-22, 01:32
Just a point of inquiry here.

Isn't it going to be like 130 degrees Farenheight in Dubai for the next coming months?

At that rate you can't wait outside at a bus stop or train, which I assume there are no trains there but busses are out. So that would mean you would need a rental car with really good tint and air conditioning. So what are the rental car and hotel room rates there?The best answers for hotel rates and rental car rates are at expedia LOL!

Be Wilder
06-26-22, 06:53
Dr Poon. Yes, is unbearably hot now and will be until mid-October at least but the whole place is geared up for that. Taxis are cheap and plentiful so unless you are a blue collar worker here you don't use buses. You might use the metro if both ends of your journey are next to it but otherwise most tourists and white collar get taxis. If I was a tourist I would stick to taxis and only hire a car if I wanted to visit another emirate for sightseeing. I believe hotel rates are also much more reasonable during the summer months and the 5 star hotels are very luxurious.

Mr Ho. Yes is a disco set up but lots of the clubs are 100% hooker clubs so no chance of mistaken approaches. Some bars especially trendy ones in 5 star hotels attract both civilians and pros but it's easy enough to tell the difference. But the past year or so, Incall / outcall options via the internet (check out Massage Republic) has become a major segment of the market to the extent that post-Covid I don’t bother with clubs anymore. Cost of living here is overall similar to London with food, drink, clothing being more expensive but housing, transport, cinema cheaper. Cost of pussy was higher in Dubai especially for short time but I would say about the same now or not much difference and long time is cheaper here.

Mr Ho
06-26-22, 08:26
Dr Poon. Yes, is unbearably hot now and will be until mid-October at least but the whole place is geared up for that. Taxis are cheap and plentiful so unless you are a blue collar worker here you don't use buses. You might use the metro if both ends of your journey are next to it but otherwise most tourists and white collar get taxis. If I was a tourist I would stick to taxis and only hire a car if I wanted to visit another emirate for sightseeing. I believe hotel rates are also much more reasonable during the summer months and the 5 star hotels are very luxurious.

Mr Ho. Yes is a disco set up but lots of the clubs are 100% hooker clubs so no chance of mistaken approaches. Some bars especially trendy ones in 5 star hotels attract both civilians and pros but it's easy enough to tell the difference. But the past year or so, Incall / outcall options via the internet (check out Massage Republic) has become a major segment of the market to the extent that post-Covid I don't bother with clubs anymore. Cost of living here is overall similar to London with food, drink, clothing being more expensive but housing, transport, cinema cheaper. Cost of pussy was higher in Dubai especially for short time but I would say about the same now or not much difference and long time is cheaper here.Dubai sound like very reasonable place to live and it is good to know housing prices I guess the rent is reasonable comparison to London!

For food, I mean I understand as you have to fly it in from abroad, but it did not look too bad when I just googled it about super market price for grocery shopping!

Plus no tax condition must be heavenly!

Be Wilder
06-26-22, 12:41
Sounds like you already did the RTFF. Next unless you visit Globe / Aphrodisia and experience yourself, I don't believe you'll have a clearer understanding of looks, quality and service of their girls. I suggest take a plunge on Thu, Fri or Saturday (Sun, Mon, Tue are ok but less number of girls, Wed is slowest, so least number of girls). If you like it, do repeat visits. If not, don't repeat, and you'll also have a baseline based on your own experience when reading future reports from at Globe.After much deliberation, I've decided to make it to Zurich instead of Frankfurt for two nights as a stopover on my way back to Dubai. Flights were cheaper though I'm sure everything else will be pricier including girls but thought it'the be good to experience something new rather than a Palace / Oase combo which is what I was going to do in Frankfurt.

I'm hoping there will be enough of interest for me to spend both days at Globe (Friday and Saturday) but in case I'm underwhelmed by Globe what would be a good Plan be for Zurich (ideally something no more expensive and larger line ups and outdoor area preferred).

Sirioja
06-26-22, 17:01
After much deliberation, I've decided to make it to Zurich instead of Frankfurt for two nights as a stopover on my way back to Dubai. Flights were cheaper though I'm sure everything else will be pricier including girls but thought it'the be good to experience something new rather than a Palace / Oase combo which is what I was going to do in Frankfurt.

I'm hoping there will be enough of interest for me to spend both days at Globe (Friday and Saturday) but in case I'm underwhelmed by Globe what would be a good Plan be for Zurich (ideally something no more expensive and larger line ups and outdoor area preferred).Prettier looks at Gold Dusseldorf airport than at Globe for 40/30 vs 150/30. 5/6 girls prettier than at Sharks and of course Oase. And deep Rhur is full of interest. 150/90 on last night, 200/120 on previous times with a really willing to please German. NRW is by far best value for money on 2022. Let s see for Golden gate.

Alan85
06-26-22, 20:10
Hi guys,

I am planning my first FKK visit. I've read many information here but because of covid some of them are not actual probably. This is the reason why I would like to ask for some information.

- are 50/30 100/60 prices out or are there still good FKK clubs where they have these prices?

- are there some clubs where is normal to have public sex like in swingers party? Or at least where are girls naked?

- is it possible to stay overnight in club (like in hotel)?

- or any helpful tips, good clubs for first visit?

Thank you for your help. I will make reviews after my visit. And if somebody want help about Prague scene, don't hesitate and ask.

Sirioja
06-27-22, 12:11
Hi guys,

I am planning my first FKK visit. I've read many information here but because of covid some of them are not actual probably. This is the reason why I would like to ask for some information.

- are 50/30 100/60 prices out or are there still good FKK clubs where they have these prices?

- are there some clubs where is normal to have public sex like in swingers party? Or at least where are girls naked?

- is it possible to stay overnight in club (like in hotel)?

- or any helpful tips, good clubs for first visit?

Thank you for your help. I will make reviews after my visit. And if somebody want help about Prague scene, don't hesitate and ask.Oceans Dusseldorf close at 7 am on Saturday and Sunday morning, then You go to run to the dome and You are strong to fuck girls, not even needing viagra.

PlayToDef
06-27-22, 13:40
Dubai sound like very reasonable place to liveWell, if you don't mind living in a hellhole where you can't literally be outside for more than an hour at a time because of the weather all year round, with zero history, culture, museums, zero vegetation, no alcohol, no porn, zero environmental awareness and modern day slavery, then yes, good place to live.

Sirioja
06-27-22, 17:28
Well, if you don't mind living in a hellhole where you can't literally be outside for more than an hour at a time because of the weather all year round, with zero history, culture, museums, zero vegetation, no alcohol, no porn, zero environmental awareness and modern day slavery, then yes, good place to live.For sure, UAE have no other interest for life than making money, when sand on sea. Globe Dubai is just ridiculous.

Mr Ho
06-27-22, 22:37
Well, if you don't mind living in a hellhole where you can't literally be outside for more than an hour at a time because of the weather all year round, with zero history, culture, museums, zero vegetation, no alcohol, no porn, zero environmental awareness and modern day slavery, then yes, good place to live.Tax is very attractive for some people and living 6 months and one day in Dubai do not sound bad to me as long as stunner pussies are offered and as for food, Dubai is not Tokyo or Paris, but Dubai do offer some good enough food that are flying in, so cannot complain with the set up of such a lucrative tax deal of 0 % ! And the beaches!

As for outside, when I went long ago in 2000 to Dubai, it had big shopping malls culture, so that is outside in Dubai I guess LOL! I presumed malls got more and better comparison to 22 years ago when I was there! Oh and hotels were nice, but as for culture, it is limited comparison to Italy, Japan or France, but I can manage without it for 6 months and 1 day per year!

Pistons
07-01-22, 16:40
Muslim people believe in god, so they do not buy prostitutes or have any sex before marriage! Well, that is what they say in front LOL! In general, those who believe in religion / god the most are the worst ones for everything in life LOL! I wonder why that is though?I could tell you, but I am too lazy now. But you are right. We see that with the vatican and the little choir boys there.

And I believe I have tried to explain in the past also here how the western religions are in essence evil.

Pistons
07-01-22, 16:47
I think the change in law legalizing sex before marriage together with Covid has seen an explosion in in-call options and that's become my modus operandi.So if I am reading you correctly, then p6 is now legal in Dubai for everyone who is not yet married? But illegal for married people? Is this correct?

Pistons
07-01-22, 16:50
Don't tell Russian speaking MILF Olga is pretty to pay for, even I love Russian words in sex, but I won't pay for such look. Bulgarian Lea is lovely, but not what I call pretty. And I didn't even notice others on my 3 or 4 visits on last Summer. I don't even plan to return on this Summer, when one but silicon is at 6 NL. Beautiful club with good foods, but very average for girls. GT Vienna should be higher level for me.Your loss. Wellcum is in a league above Artemis / Oase / Sharks / Goldentime now. (haven't tested other clubs in 2022).

Gino02
07-01-22, 19:22
Tax is very attractive for some people and living 6 months and one day in Dubai do not sound bad to me as long as stunner pussies are offered and as for food, Dubai is not Tokyo or Paris, but Dubai do offer some good enough food that are flying in, so cannot complain with the set up of such a lucrative tax deal of 0 % ! And the beaches!

As for outside, when I went long ago in 2000 to Dubai, it had big shopping malls culture, so that is outside in Dubai I guess LOL! I presumed malls got more and better comparison to 22 years ago when I was there! Oh and hotels were nice, but as for culture, it is limited comparison to Italy, Japan or France, but I can manage without it for 6 months and 1 day per year!Yep, Dubai hotels got much better now compared to 2000. And a huge plus (some might call it an annoying minus haha) is that in most hotel bars, if a guy or couple of guys order drinks, in less than 5 minutes some Russian or Ukrainian working girls will come over to chat / seduce the guys LOL.

DrPoon
07-01-22, 23:18
Tax is very attractive for some people and living 6 months and one day in Dubai do not sound bad to me as long as stunner pussies are offered and as for food, Dubai is not Tokyo or Paris, but Dubai do offer some good enough food that are flying in, so cannot complain with the set up of such a lucrative tax deal of 0 % ! And the beaches!

As for outside, when I went long ago in 2000 to Dubai, it had big shopping malls culture, so that is outside in Dubai I guess LOL! I presumed malls got more and better comparison to 22 years ago when I was there! Oh and hotels were nice, but as for culture, it is limited comparison to Italy, Japan or France, but I can manage without it for 6 months and 1 day per year!At least a burka can protect from the sun down there.

DrPoon
07-01-22, 23:20
Tax is very attractive for some people and living 6 months and one day in Dubai do not sound bad to me as long as stunner pussies are offered and as for food, Dubai is not Tokyo or Paris, but Dubai do offer some good enough food that are flying in, so cannot complain with the set up of such a lucrative tax deal of 0 % ! And the beaches!

As for outside, when I went long ago in 2000 to Dubai, it had big shopping malls culture, so that is outside in Dubai I guess LOL! I presumed malls got more and better comparison to 22 years ago when I was there! Oh and hotels were nice, but as for culture, it is limited comparison to Italy, Japan or France, but I can manage without it for 6 months and 1 day per year!This of course begs the question how does one as a foreigner without membership in an oil cartel earn money in Dubai?

Mr Ho
07-02-22, 01:22
This of course begs the question how does one as a foreigner without membership in an oil cartel earn money in Dubai?I can make money abroad without being there, so I can base myself in Dubai, but beside mongering, I am cultural guy, so only cities I can think of living are in Japan like Tokyo or Kyoto or some other rural cities that are rich in culture, Paris, Zurich, Geneve or any culturally rich European nations or Scandinavia etc, but all these nations including my own have high tax rate in exchange for good social security and high quality of life!

Dubai got its issues, but it is live-able and has its own fake plastic culture LOL! Their original culture of fishing village is not very appealing and desert culture is nice only for few days LOL!

So beautiful beach and tax and good looking bad service prostitutes from Ukraine and Russia are sunny side up of Dubai LOL!

Mr Ho
07-02-22, 01:29
At least a burka can protect from the sun down there.Ah Birkas, I call them Ninjas LOL!

Sirioja
07-02-22, 07:58
Your loss. Wellcum is in a league above Artemis / Oase / Sharks / Goldentime now. (haven't tested other clubs in 2022).Beautiful club with good foods and I love Corinthians, but not good for who love kissing and pretty faces on natural body. Even didn't find yet the good S5 one, I should not find white like a elegant bride, but I will start my tour on 14 July up to Iseran, good breakfast for first run since mid November, then Aosta up to Gran San Bernardino and should go for Zoncolan, 28% Mione Gentile and Mortirolo on September when I will have few kilometers in red zone, but I don t plan Wellcum when only 1 hour speeding around Tarvisio. Unfortunately, GT Vienna is too far.

Pistons
07-02-22, 22:20
Beautiful club with good foods and I love Corinthians, but not good for who love kissing and pretty faces on natural body. Even didn't find yet the good S5 one, I should not find white like a elegant bride, but I will start my tour on 14 July up to Iseran, good breakfast for first run since mid November, then Aosta up to Gran San Bernardino and should go for Zoncolan, 28% Mione Gentile and Mortirolo on September when I will have few kilometers in red zone, but I don t plan Wellcum when only 1 hour speeding around Tarvisio. Unfortunately, GT Vienna is too far.Recently I spotted about 60 faces at Wellcum prettier than Kate's out of 110 or so.

Sirioja
07-03-22, 05:39
Recently I spotted about 60 faces at Wellcum prettier than Kate's out of 110 or so.Since exceptional Lena. Ro on 2017,6 hours on 4 days, who was higher level in bed than Kate, I never saw any Kate level at Wellcum, unfortunately, but Darla and Miss what the fuck becoming plastic dolls. Not high level on my visits since 2019.

Mr Ho
07-03-22, 11:45
Recently I spotted about 60 faces at Wellcum prettier than Kate's out of 110 or so.He has different taste, he like old women with wrinkles who looks like old single suffering mum, he calls that wow woman princess type LOL!

Sirioja
07-03-22, 23:57
Since exceptional Lena. Ro on 2017,6 hours on 4 days, who was higher level in bed than Kate, I never saw any Kate level at Wellcum, unfortunately, but Darla and Miss what the fuck becoming plastic dolls. Not high level on my visits since 2019.I still find girls with curvy round ass, but really not many are able to put ass for doggy like Kate. She was queen for doggy, a real pleasure.

Mr Ho
07-04-22, 02:13
Average male client at Welcum is slimmer and younger than the average client you see in German clubs. Because of this, girls have a more narrow range for acceptable physical standards for their clients. Older clients at Welcum likely are the ones who struggle in obtaining DFK at clubs like Welcum. For kissing and service, it's about the same as in Germany for clients who stay within the typical physical average of Welcum's average guests.Aha, so you are saying that the line up at Welcum is better than most German FKK clubs?

At the same time, my understanding is that those FKK girls the most beautiful ones tend to go where the money is so near the city upsell clubs! But is Wellcum good place for making money for girls too beside the clients are younger and better looking than German FKK? Because money is the juice for these girls!

AznHotBoy
07-04-22, 02:22
I still find girls with curvy round ass, but really not many are able to put ass for doggy like Kate. She was queen for doggy, a real pleasure.Kate will definitely be missed. I don't need to say much about her body, it was absolutely stunning. However, she was one of the best service girls in all of Germany and with a great attitude. Back when she just started at Golden Time for a week or two. I took her for a 30 min session just to try her but I came in her mouth just 10 minutes in. She just smiled and kept sucking me. Shortly she told me I can cum as many times I want and our time isn't finished. I was amazed. Almost every girl would've ended the session right there after a quick cum for 50 + 25 E but not Kate. She made sure the full 30 min was up and even sucked out a second pop. Sadly I had some other arrangements that day and ended our first 30 min session. I paid her 75 E for 30 min and 2 times finish in her mouth. She didn't complain about anything and wanted to see me the next day.

Then the next day I booked her for 6 hours and emptied my balls into her throat at least 7 times. She was never shy for cum. She did almost everything I wanted. Only thing she didn't let me do was finger her pussy. She would lick my balls and let me bounce my wet balls on her face. She even let me squat on her face and drag my balls on her face LOL. Fucked her in every position I wanted and as much as I wanted. Never complained about anything ever and was always encouraging me to pump more cum into her mouth. I would ask her where does my cum go and she would open her mouth and stick out her tongue. Then she'll tell me to give her my load.

For the next few years I'd always book her for a few full days every time I was in Germany and the service level never degraded. Every time I'd go home happy with my ball emptied. Then in June 2020 she wrote me she is done and this was the end of our relationship. She deleted her WhatsApp soon afterwards. A real sad lose for all of us. I believe even today if it wasn't for COVID she'll still be draining my balls today.

Sirioja
07-04-22, 12:57
Kate will definitely be missed. I don't need to say much about her body, it was absolutely stunning. However, she was one of the best service girls in all of Germany and with a great attitude. Back when she just started at Golden Time for a week or two. I took her for a 30 min session just to try her but I came in her mouth just 10 minutes in. She just smiled and kept sucking me. Shortly she told me I can cum as many times I want and our time isn't finished. I was amazed. Almost every girl would've ended the session right there after a quick cum for 50 + 25 E but not Kate. She made sure the full 30 min was up and even sucked out a second pop. Sadly I had some other arrangements that day and ended our first 30 min session. I paid her 75 E for 30 min and 2 times finish in her mouth. She didn't complain about anything and wanted to see me the next day.

Then the next day I booked her for 6 hours and emptied my balls into her throat at least 7 times. She was never shy for cum. She did almost everything I wanted. Only thing she didn't let me do was finger her pussy. She would lick my balls and let me bounce my wet balls on her face. She even let me squat on her face and drag my balls on her face LOL. Fucked her in every position I wanted and as much as I wanted. Never complained about anything ever and was always encouraging me to pump more cum into her mouth. I would ask her where does my cum go and she would open her mouth and stick out her tongue. Then she'll tell me to give her my load.

For the next few years I'd always book her for a few full days every time I was in Germany and the service level never degraded. Every time I'd go home happy with my ball emptied. Then in June 2020 she wrote me she is done and this was the end of our relationship. She deleted her WhatsApp soon afterwards. A real sad lose for all of us. I believe even today if it wasn't for COVID she'll still be draining my balls today.I had to be careful to fuck her, I couldn't take her as first in Bruggen because she couldn't anymore, painful for her, but she knew how I was careful not to hurt her. I prefer to fuck than CIM, from my sex model from my previous life, but I loved her tasty honey. I loved when she put her face in sheet with her so sexy ass up, one of my best for doggy, when most girls try not to get too deep. A lovely girl, but at 30 , I wish her a better life with her project. Maybe one day, I will jump from helicopter to free ride in Alaska, when I chose at Velbert. Quite average for BJ for me, I never felt I could finish in her mouth, not skillful enough for me, and not improving with her new nose she didn't need.

Sirioja
07-04-22, 13:32
Beautiful club with good foods and I love Corinthians, but not good for who love kissing and pretty faces on natural body. Even didn't find yet the good S5 one, I should not find white like a elegant bride, but I will start my tour on 14 July up to Iseran, good breakfast for first run since mid November, then Aosta up to Gran San Bernardino and should go for Zoncolan, 28% Mione Gentile and Mortirolo on September when I will have few kilometers in red zone, but I don t plan Wellcum when only 1 hour speeding around Tarvisio. Unfortunately, GT Vienna is too far.Carinthian mountains, not Corinthians Sao Paulo.

AznHotBoy
07-04-22, 18:20
I had to be careful to fuck her, I couldn't take her as first in Bruggen because she couldn't anymore, painful for her, but she knew how I was careful not to hurt her. I prefer to fuck than CIM, from my sex model from my previous life, but I loved her tasty honey. I loved when she put her face in sheet with her so sexy ass up, one of my best for doggy, when most girls try not to get too deep. A lovely girl, but at 30 , I wish her a better life with her project. Maybe one day, I will jump from helicopter to free ride in Alaska, when I chose at Velbert. Quite average for BJ for me, I never felt I could finish in her mouth, not skillful enough for me, and not improving with her new nose she didn't need.Kate would always let me know when she went holiday. I would plan my travels to Germany around her return to Germany as well. She gets so tight after her holidays because she doesn't get fucked much in her personal life. She knew that I liked to be the first one to open her up for work as well. My size worked well for her. I have all the freedom to fuck her anyway I wanted and as hard as I wanted, OK except for the first few minutes I have to be slow and careful. But after those first few minutes it was a full day of hard fucking and throat filling. She would cream so much on my dick on those first days that at first I thought my condom broke and creampied her LOL!

AznHotBoy
07-04-22, 18:31
Kate is a great girl over all and I wish nothing but the best for her. She's not the princess type but a real women. She is a good person to talk to and be around with. We've had plenty of good times outside of the bedroom because she knows I'm respectful of her as a person on a personal level. She is really smart and have good ideas about life in general. That's why she'll most likely never return and will have a great life ahead of her. That I'm sure of.

But in the club or bedroom she is different and we play differently as well. She knows she is my dirty cum dump. She knows where my cum goes and worships my balls on her face. She knows how many times I need to fill her up to empty my balls and won't let me leave until that's done. Those were the good days.

SerpentX
07-04-22, 21:18
Kate will be missed indeed. She is a good girl that you rarely find in FKKs.


Kate will definitely be missed. I don't need to say much about her body, it was absolutely stunning. However, she was one of the best service girls in all of Germany and with a great attitude. Back when she just started at Golden Time for a week or two. I took her for a 30 min session just to try her but I came in her mouth just 10 minutes in. She just smiled and kept sucking me. Shortly she told me I can cum as many times I want and our time isn't finished. I was amazed. Almost every girl would've ended the session right there after a quick cum for 50 + 25 E but not Kate. She made sure the full 30 min was up and even sucked out a second pop. Sadly I had some other arrangements that day and ended our first 30 min session. I paid her 75 E for 30 min and 2 times finish in her mouth. She didn't complain about anything and wanted to see me the next day.

Then the next day I booked her for 6 hours and emptied my balls into her throat at least 7 times. She was never shy for cum. She did almost everything I wanted. Only thing she didn't let me do was finger her pussy. She would lick my balls and let me bounce my wet balls on her face. She even let me squat on her face and drag my balls on her face LOL. Fucked her in every position I wanted and as much as I wanted. Never complained about anything ever and was always encouraging me to pump more cum into her mouth. I would ask her where does my cum go and she would open her mouth and stick out her tongue. Then she'll tell me to give her my load.

For the next few years I'd always book her for a few full days every time I was in Germany and the service level never degraded. Every time I'd go home happy with my ball emptied. Then in June 2020 she wrote me she is done and this was the end of our relationship. She deleted her WhatsApp soon afterwards. A real sad lose for all of us. I believe even today if it wasn't for COVID she'll still be draining my balls today.

Sirioja
07-04-22, 21:32
Average male client at Welcum is slimmer and younger than the average client you see in German clubs. Because of this, girls have a more narrow range for acceptable physical standards for their clients. Older clients at Welcum likely are the ones who struggle in obtaining DFK at clubs like Welcum. For kissing and service, it's about the same as in Germany for clients who stay within the typical physical average of Welcum's average guests.I m slimmer than most Wellcum clients who would not be able to climb Zoncolan at 100 kms, you should go and try, and of course bigger size than most and a prettier face than you. Wellcum girls are lower level for GFE than in Germany, when Italians don't look for love in bed, but like to chat as say girls, but you have to buy bottles of champagne for girls, when I don't, but I fuck them.

Sirioja
07-05-22, 07:46
Kate would always let me know when she went holiday. I would plan my travels to Germany around her return to Germany as well. She gets so tight after her holidays because she doesn't get fucked much in her personal life. She knew that I liked to be the first one to open her up for work as well. My size worked well for her. I have all the freedom to fuck her anyway I wanted and as hard as I wanted, OK except for the first few minutes I have to be slow and careful. But after those first few minutes it was a full day of hard fucking and throat filling. She would cream so much on my dick on those first days that at first I thought my condom broke and creampied her LOL!When she made 20 rooms per day for 2 years in Velbert before Bruggen, her vagina probably became less wet and flexible and I knew I would have hurt her if I was her first for her day at Bruggen, so I waited one opened her and I made her with honey before fucking her, entering and starting to move carefully. Cream was wet gel on condom. Honey was her, I enjoyed she happened to trust me for this, when I worked hard from our start among her rabbits rooms in Velbert. One of the smartest, when they are not many, reason why she became the busiest superstar at number 1 Bruggen, from her start fucked by so many Turkish daily. I remember when I saw her having 3 rooms in 1 hour, about 10 rooms between 8 pm and 1 am. Sex machine at this time. I was told she kept on in business a bit after Bruggen covid closing.

Mr Ho
07-06-22, 05:12
Kate would always let me know when she went holiday. I would plan my travels to Germany around her return to Germany as well. She gets so tight after her holidays because she doesn't get fucked much in her personal life. She knew that I liked to be the first one to open her up for work as well. My size worked well for her. I have all the freedom to fuck her anyway I wanted and as hard as I wanted, OK except for the first few minutes I have to be slow and careful. But after those first few minutes it was a full day of hard fucking and throat filling. She would cream so much on my dick on those first days that at first I thought my condom broke and creampied her LOL!FKK gives us the memories that we treasure for life! That is one of many great thing about FKK that make us keep coming back LOL!

Mr Ho
07-07-22, 04:51
Globe entrance is cheap or at least reasonable, I thought about this and let me explain:

In Switzerland, cheap lunch or dinner cost you at least 20 chf in some curry place or normal not good level restaurant, so for one day you are looking at with drinks 25 chf to 30 chf minimum for limited food of one plate and a drink like water, so about 50 to 60 chf per day right? Plus let add 10 chf on that for breakfast some 2 croissant and coffee, so that would make it about 70 chf for food per day for fly in mongers minimum!

Globe entrance is 95 chf now right? So 70 chf for unlimited amount of food like sald, soup, pasta etc and all non alcohol drinks you want is not bad deal at all, plus free nude girls, free saunas etc included! So the entrance for swiss FKK where things are more expensive than Germany is reasonable deal!

Lefeu
07-07-22, 05:15
Globe entrance is cheap or at least reasonable, I thought about this and let me explain:

In Switzerland, cheap lunch or dinner cost you at least 20 chf in some curry place or normal not good level restaurant, so for one day you are looking at with drinks 25 chf to 30 chf minimum for limited food of one plate and a drink like water, so about 50 to 60 chf per day right? Plus let add 10 chf on that for breakfast some 2 croissant and coffee, so that would make it about 70 chf for food per day for fly in mongers minimum!

Globe entrance is 95 chf now right? So 70 chf for unlimited amount of food like sald, soup, pasta etc and all non alcohol drinks you want is not bad deal at all, plus free nude girls, free saunas etc included! So the entrance for swiss FKK where things are more expensive than Germany is reasonable deal!Sorry buddy, the only way I can see the higher Swiss price justified is if I can find higher level eye candy. The rest is irrelevant, especially food prices. I have been to Globe 3 times, each time during a trip to German FKKs. I carve up 4/5 days in the middle to go to Zurich by train. On some trips, I felt the eye candy available justified the higher prices. By eye candy available, I mean chicks that I can have a session with. I have seen many times eye candy in the bar area but they disappear quickly.

Mr Ho
07-07-22, 13:06
Sorry buddy, the only way I can see the higher Swiss price justified is if I can find higher level eye candy. The rest is irrelevant, especially food prices. I have been to Globe 3 times, each time during a trip to German FKKs. I carve up 4/5 days in the middle to go to Zurich by train. On some trips, I felt the eye candy available justified the higher prices. By eye candy available, I mean chicks that I can have a session with. I have seen many times eye candy in the bar area but they disappear quickly.I agree, but I was just thinking about the price of food in Zurich and if one were to eat all meals at globe, then it is quite reasonable, but yes, the most important thing is the line up! Which Ingo is quite fair enough good at doing and the service and the time is guaranteed!

I hear Ukrainian girls can work in eu for 3 years now, so it may boost up the line up both in German FKK and even at globe? We shall see how the line up will be post covid!

JackalLtt
07-07-22, 17:39
Globe entrance is cheap or at least reasonable, I thought about this and let me explain:

In Switzerland, cheap lunch or dinner cost you at least 20 chf in some curry place or normal not good level restaurant, so for one day you are looking at with drinks 25 chf to 30 chf minimum for limited food of one plate and a drink like water, so about 50 to 60 chf per day right? Plus let add 10 chf on that for breakfast some 2 croissant and coffee, so that would make it about 70 chf for food per day for fly in mongers minimum!

Globe entrance is 95 chf now right? So 70 chf for unlimited amount of food like sald, soup, pasta etc and all non alcohol drinks you want is not bad deal at all, plus free nude girls, free saunas etc included! So the entrance for swiss FKK where things are more expensive than Germany is reasonable deal!Not only do I disagree but I would like to add that the food at Globe sucks.

Sirioja
07-07-22, 17:51
Sorry buddy, the only way I can see the higher Swiss price justified is if I can find higher level eye candy. The rest is irrelevant, especially food prices. I have been to Globe 3 times, each time during a trip to German FKKs. I carve up 4/5 days in the middle to go to Zurich by train. On some trips, I felt the eye candy available justified the higher prices. By eye candy available, I mean chicks that I can have a session with. I have seen many times eye candy in the bar area but they disappear quickly.Zurich clubs are expensive because ZH is expensive, not anymore because higher looks or higher level for sex, except for porn. At Globe or Aphrodisia, I would not pay 50 for most girls. Probably the Globe busiest is told to be hairy on belly and not able to really kiss like a woman. Most of Globe clients don t know anything else, they think still the best and because expensive. They are not very demanding for more than fresh meat with plastic. Many girls worked in Germany before and put silicon for Globe, and except Sofia ex Artemis, not the prettiest from Germany, when I find prettier looks in Germany.

Sirioja
07-07-22, 20:31
Not only do I disagree but I would like to add that the food at Globe sucks.And also low level rooms with not good light, not so see too much girls, when most now are not even pretty.

Escape Artist
07-07-22, 21:08
Not only do I disagree but I would like to add that the food at Globe sucks.Haha, I second that. Considering the price point, Globe is overrated. The only thing that's good about it is that the service was reliable and that there were zero unattractive girls. But that doesn't mean all the girls were stunners and definitely not fresh. Going to the club was like if you took all of the upchargers at Oase and Sharks and put them in Switzerland.

Mr Ho
07-07-22, 23:27
Not only do I disagree but I would like to add that the food at Globe sucks.Food in any FKK sucks, better ones are hmmm oceans only one plate only meal is alright and I like the mineral water bottles you can take as many as you want and also pasta / charged pizza at Oase is alright and since one cannot go that wrong with past I stick to pasta only in globe with a lot of parmesan to cover up the taste LOL!

But look, you will be spending about 50 to 70 euro with drinks for mediocre food out side or much more if you go to good resty in Zurich, so 95 chf can be alright! I mean they need to run the business LOL! But yeah comparison to some German clubs it is much more expensive, but the price in swiss are much much higher LOL!

The Cane
07-08-22, 00:31
Food in any FKK sucks, better ones are hmmm oceans only one plate only meal is alright and I like the mineral water bottles you can take as many as you want and also pasta / charged pizza at Oase is alright and since one cannot go that wrong with past I stick to pasta only in globe with a lot of parmesan to cover up the taste LOL!

But look, you will be spending about 50 to 70 euro with drinks for mediocre food out side or much more if you go to good resty in Zurich, so 95 chf can be alright! I mean they need to run the business LOL! But yeah comparison to some German clubs it is much more expensive, but the price in swiss are much much higher LOL!The only FKK I went to that I can say had truly "good" food was the old Golden Time. Unfortunately, that was pretty much the only thing I liked about the place. That and the free beer!

Sirioja
07-08-22, 07:02
The only FKK I went to that I can say had truly "good" food was the old Golden Time. Unfortunately, that was pretty much the only thing I liked about the place. That and the free beer!For better foods than at Bruggen, YY, Sakura. 6 is not bad, Bab also. Brunch and buffet at Globe are Ok, brunch even used to be good with cup of champagne.

Mr Ho
07-08-22, 23:50
The only FKK I went to that I can say had truly "good" food was the old Golden Time. Unfortunately, that was pretty much the only thing I liked about the place. That and the free beer!I liked soup at golden time! I enjoyed Ukrainian borsch there and place would be oceans is also good enough! I usually like eating pasta as you cannot go that wrong with pasta, so you get the same as cafeteria level left over pasta in FKK, so that is what I often eat in FKK! I never tried delivery food, but I often saw delivery food at Artemis front desk where girls and sometimes clients are picking up their delivery food, so I may try that!

However, I am not big fan of German food, but when I am in other nation, I like to enjoy the local food, so I would like it if German FKK have some German food and also doner kebab as kebab is Turkish food, but doner kebab began in Berlin Germany so it would be nice option that they can do well without difficulty!

Mr Ho
07-09-22, 02:12
Be careful what you wish for because you might get it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_wpLE9kQH0

The reality of mongering world is that we benefit from world chaos! Sad, but true as sad as it is!

Steve 9696
07-09-22, 08:59
Hey sorry for being slightly off topic but this is such an active thread of knowledgeable guys. Looking for very quick help here in Berlin last minute. Unexpectedly looking for erotic massage last minute here hopefully within half hour of airport. A brothel will do but strangely I am all fucked out and just need pampering and a nice oily HJ or BJ. So massage preferred.

Normally I'm a giver not a taker here on ISG but would truly appreciate any recommendations. Thanks!

Downandup
07-09-22, 11:10
Hey sorry for being slightly off topic but this is such an active thread of knowledgeable guys. Looking for very quick help here in Berlin last minute. Unexpectedly looking for erotic massage last minute here hopefully within half hour of airport. A brothel will do but strangely I am all fucked out and just need pampering and a nice oily HJ or BJ. So massage preferred.

Normally I'm a giver not a taker here on ISG but would truly appreciate any recommendations. Thanks!I can give you a list of places that were on my hit list but be warned that this list is old from before the Covid outbreak. I don't recommend any of theses places as it's too dated and my favourites have closed.

https://www.ameliya.de/

http://www.anachyta-massagen.de/

https://www.aphrodite-massagen.de/

https://idylle-massagen.de/

https://www.ekstase-massage.de/

http://enigma-massagen.de/

https://www.euphorie-massagen.de/

http://www.fantasy-massagestudio.de/

https://www.feelings-massagen.de/

http://www.iris-massagen.com/

https://www.paris-no5.de/de

https://www.sensual-massage-berlin.de/masseurinnen.html

http://www.tantra-wellness-massagen.de/

https://www.veronas-massagen.de/startseite

http://wolke7-berlin.de/teamseite.php

Steve 9696
07-09-22, 14:56
Hey sorry for being slightly off topic but this is such an active thread of knowledgeable guys. Looking for very quick help here in Berlin last minute. Unexpectedly looking for erotic massage last minute here hopefully within half hour of airport. A brothel will do but strangely I am all fucked out and just need pampering and a nice oily HJ or BJ. So massage preferred.

Normally I'm a giver not a taker here on ISG but would truly appreciate any recommendations. Thanks!Thanks for the list. I'the forgotten Paris No 5. It seems great but I couldn't line up a booking on short notice. Went to old standby Artemis and will post report in that group. Short story. Def a thirties crowd of ladies but pretty and slim. Had two nice rounds including BBBJ in the cinema which I haven't had in five years. That was a pleasant surprise and awfully fun.

Pistons
07-10-22, 09:29
Be careful what you wish for because you might get it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_wpLE9kQH0

The reality of mongering world is that we benefit from world chaos! Sad, but true as sad as it is!Not sure I believe you each time you say the word sad.

Escape Artist
07-10-22, 15:34
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Mr Ho
07-10-22, 22:52
Not sure I believe you each time you say the word sad.It is bit both sad and happy as we monger will benefit from this, but we do have some level of conscious that we or more like our dick cannot control, so it is not us, but our dick LOL!

Abox79
07-11-22, 15:20
Has anyone been to FKK village yet? It's near FKK World? They may be some reports but but I can't locate them and there doesn't appear to be a thread for this club yet?

The Cane
07-12-22, 12:31
Mr. Ho, I wanted to extend my condolences regarding the assassination of Mr. Abe Shinzo. If anybody had told me that a prominent Japanese leader would be killed by a firearm, I would not have believed it. And even then, it's so hard to get a gun in Japan that this guy had to make his own! I liked Mr. Abe and "Abenomics", but also his stance on the Japanese military. I understand the limitations imposed by the Japanese constitution and the nation's longstanding commitment to pacifism (military used for defense only) after the disaster of WW2. But sometimes, the best way to defend is to be able to project power abroad too, even including a preemptive strike if warranted. Let me tell you something. One day Japan will again be required to stand on its own. I don't know when and where and how, or under what circumstances, but it will happen. We Americans will leave, as we always eventually do, and Japan will be on its own to deal with a testy China, a reckless Russia, and a belligerent North Korea. Or whoever the "bad guy" is at the time. Is Japan ready to stand on its own militarily? It had better be. Because America will not be there for you forever. Japan had better be ready to fight on its own. I trust that Japan will be careful. It has learned its lesson about aggressive militarism (America still has lessons to be learned on this count). As Mr. Abe is put to rest, I conclude that he was right. Japan's constitution must be amended regarding the uses of its armed forces. Because Japan on its own must stand ready.

The Cane
07-12-22, 17:28
And as usual, I'm not in a position where I can travel to Europe at this time to take advantage of it! I always seem to miss the most favorable exchange rates in Germany (and Brazil). As they say, timing is everything:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/07/12/investing/euro-dollar-parity/index.html

Shark16
07-12-22, 18:07
Has anyone been to FKK village yet? It's near FKK World?I haven't, and I would not bother.

If you are in D-land right now and have a car, you can TOFTT and try their free entry (valid 1- 14 July).

SerpentX
07-12-22, 20:24
If you look at the history of Japan since 1800's and its militarism ideology you will understand why Japan must adhere to its current constitution. If not, they will roll back to what they have always been and start another war sooner rather than later. They never stand ready to defend, instead they always invade and attack first. Watch out!


Mr. Ho, I wanted to extend my condolences regarding the assassination of Mr. Abe Shinzo. If anybody had told me that a prominent Japanese leader would be killed by a firearm, I would not have believed it. And even then, it's so hard to get a gun in Japan that this guy had to make his own! I liked Mr. Abe and "Abenomics", but also his stance on the Japanese military. I understand the limitations imposed by the Japanese constitution and the nation's longstanding commitment to pacifism (military used for defense only) after the disaster of WW2. But sometimes, the best way to defend is to be able to project power abroad too, even including a preemptive strike if warranted. Let me tell you something. One day Japan will again be required to stand on its own. I don't know when and where and how, or under what circumstances, but it will happen. We Americans will leave, as we always eventually do, and Japan will be on its own to deal with a testy China, a reckless Russia, and a belligerent North Korea. Or whoever the "bad guy" is at the time. Is Japan ready to stand on its own militarily? It had better be. Because America will not be there for you forever. Japan had better be ready to fight on its own. I trust that Japan will be careful. It has learned its lesson about aggressive militarism (America still has lessons to be learned on this count). As Mr. Abe is put to rest, I conclude that he was right. Japan's constitution must be amended regarding the uses of its armed forces. Because Japan on its own must stand ready.

The Cane
07-12-22, 21:00
If you look at the history of Japan since 1800's and its militarism ideology you will understand why Japan must adhere to its current constitution. If not, they will roll back to what they have always been and start another war sooner rather than later. They never stand ready to defend, instead they always invade and attack first. Watch out!Japan had no significant history of military adventurism abroad prior to about 1895. Before that time, the Japanese basically were isolationists who wanted to be left alone by outsiders. What happened? Western colonial powers and their imperialist abuses showed up and changed Japan's outlook forever. Conquer and subdue, or be conquered and subdued! Well with a recovery from two nuclear blasts to later become the world's second largest economy (now number three behind China), Japan understands better than anybody (except Germany maybe) that peace is better than war. And Mr. Abe understood that a crucial way to maintain that peace is through strength! Weakness only prompts another war and gets you. Conquered and subdued.

DrPoon
07-12-22, 22:51
Japan had no significant history of military adventurism abroad prior to about 1895. Before that time, the Japanese basically were isolationists who wanted to be left alone by outsiders. What happened? Western colonial powers and their imperialist abuses showed up and changed Japan's outlook forever. Conquer and subdue, or be conquered and subdued! Well with a recovery from two nuclear blasts to later become the world's second largest economy (now number three behind China), Japan understands better than anybody (except Germany maybe) that peace is better than war. And Mr. Abe understood that a crucial way to maintain that peace is through strength! Weakness only prompts another war and gets you. Conquered and subdued.The USA should just mind its own business and let Japan and China hash it out between themselves.

Mr Ho
07-12-22, 23:47
If you look at the history of Japan since 1800's and its militarism ideology you will understand why Japan must adhere to its current constitution. If not, they will roll back to what they have always been and start another war sooner rather than later. They never stand ready to defend, instead they always invade and attack first. Watch out!Japan has ability to be the second biggest military in the world after US if Japan want to, US at least republican party and co want Japan to do that, but Japan do not want to be second in military power after US because Japan believe it is not right strategy to use violence as mean of negotiations, Japan has enough on table to negotiate, so there is no need, but now it is becoming was no need due to what happened in Ukraine and also Japan has mentally insane neighbors such as China, Russia and north Korea who has different behavior issues to rest of the world! So we are going to up GDP 1% military budget to 2 % military budget now, but we will be careful how we change our constitution!

But your brain stopped at 1945 and it is 2022 now, Japan is in G7 and Japan have many responsibilities to the world, so there is no need to attack anybody as most of the nations in the world are on our side and we all live in harmony!

Mr Ho
07-12-22, 23:57
Japan had no significant history of military adventurism abroad prior to about 1895. Before that time, the Japanese basically were isolationists who wanted to be left alone by outsiders. What happened? Western colonial powers and their imperialist abuses showed up and changed Japan's outlook forever. Conquer and subdue, or be conquered and subdued! Well with a recovery from two nuclear blasts to later become the world's second largest economy (now number three behind China), Japan understands better than anybody (except Germany maybe) that peace is better than war. And Mr. Abe understood that a crucial way to maintain that peace is through strength! Weakness only prompts another war and gets you. Conquered and subdued.It is very precise observation as Japan tend to have strong culture of prefer to be left alone by foreigners and if we want to implement something we ask for it ourselves instead of someone forcing Japan to do so, and yes the reason for second world war was that western power begin to show up in Asia and Japan having 11 aircraft carrier back then were threaten that they were about to do something to us and our stand always and will be is that we will not kneel down to west or any invaders, so we tried to solve through foreign diplomacy, but there was no chance, then west blocked the oil, so we had two choice, we will wage losing war on whole world now or we kneel down to the west, and we choose the first choice as we are not going to kneel down! But I am happy that both side of our ancestors did not die for nothing as Japan and West are very good friend and US and Japan are basically best friend nation like batman and robin and US being batman LOL!

One correction though! Japan had history of attacking other nation before second world war! I can admit our wrong doing, so here we go, Japan attacked Russia which caused Japan Russia war which we beat Russians both on land and sea especially sea battle was one of the most significant battle in history as Japan fought against back then biggest navy fleet in the whole world Baltic coalition, but Japan finish all of them under one hour and also Japan attack China as well! But we are talking over 100 years ago event LOL! And what is fantastic about Japan is that we have power to change to evolve into future and thanks to USA and especially US military (General Macarthur! That Japan is where Japan is at now and US-Japan relation will be forever bond! Losing Shinzo Abe was too big of a loss though! He was only leader who can talk to both side of extreme to find soft landing point (Eg: Iran and US when US was Trump LOL!

Escape Artist
07-13-22, 00:53
Japan had no significant history of military adventurism abroad prior to about 1895. Before that time, the Japanese basically were isolationists who wanted to be left alone by outsiders. What happened? Western colonial powers and their imperialist abuses showed up and changed Japan's outlook forever. Conquer and subdue, or be conquered and subdued! Well with a recovery from two nuclear blasts to later become the world's second largest economy (now number three behind China), Japan understands better than anybody (except Germany maybe) that peace is better than war. And Mr. Abe understood that a crucial way to maintain that peace is through strength! Weakness only prompts another war and gets you. Conquered and subdued.Let's not belittle the Japanese atrocities. While you are right that their militarism was brief, the magnitude of Japanese crimes in the first half of the 20th century was rivaled only by Nazi crimes. Western historians skip over how much imperial Japan abused their neighbors in the Far East and the Pacific, but their methods were down right evil. Just read up on events such as the R8 pe of Nanking and you will get a sense of the depth of evil that Japanese imperialism inflicted on the Asian mainland and Pacific islands. Their actions resulted in as many as 14 million deaths. Their treatment of western POWs was far worse than the Nazis. Their crimes against women during military conflict is unspeakable. The fact that Japan enjoys such affluence and "western nation" status despite how much harm they inflicted on their neighbors is a major reason why so many people from other Far East nations have a deep resentment for the nation of Japan. While I agree that Japan is now a peaceful nation, the culture of Japan still retains a sense of superiority over other nations, both Western and Eastern.

Mr Ho
07-13-22, 08:05
Let's not belittle the Japanese atrocities. While you are right that their militarism was brief, the magnitude of Japanese crimes in the first half of the 20th century was rivaled only by Nazi crimes. Western historians skip over how much imperial Japan abused their neighbors in the Far East and the Pacific, but their methods were down right evil. Just read up on events such as the R8 pe of Nanking and you will get a sense of the depth of evil that Japanese imperialism inflicted on the Asian mainland and Pacific islands. Their actions resulted in as many as 14 million deaths. Their treatment of western POWs was far worse than the Nazis. Their crimes against women during military conflict is unspeakable. The fact that Japan enjoys such affluence and "western nation" status despite how much harm they inflicted on their neighbors is a major reason why so many people from other Far East nations have a deep resentment for the nation of Japan. While I agree that Japan is now a peaceful nation, the culture of Japan still retains a sense of superiority over other nations, both Western and Eastern.It is most extreme nation as after 1945 Japan became the most peaceful nation for past 77 years LOL! But kept the ability to become the military power if Japan want, but for what? Using military in 21st century only lead to chaos, so Japan just need enough to protect itself even though Japan is ranked always in top 5 most of time or top10 even just with defense restriction by its own constitution LOL!

https://www.businessinsider.in/defense/ranked-the-worlds-20-strongest-militaries/slidelist/51930339.cms#slideid=51930374.

The Cane
07-13-22, 10:56
The USA should just mind its own business and let Japan and China hash it out between themselves.That's asking a lot! Now isn't it?

The Cane
07-13-22, 11:08
One correction though! Japan had history of attacking other nation before second world war! I can admit our wrong doing, so here we go, Japan attacked Russia which caused Japan Russia war which we beat Russians both on land and sea especially sea battle was one of the most significant battle in history as Japan fought against back then biggest navy fleet in the whole world Baltic coalition, but Japan finish all of them under one hour and also Japan attack China as well! But we are talking over 100 years ago event LOL!I know and understand all of that. My point is that none of that compares to the rampage that occurred from around 1895 forward through 1945 and the end of WW2.

The Cane
07-13-22, 11:14
Let's not belittle the Japanese atrocities. While you are right that their militarism was brief, the magnitude of Japanese crimes in the first half of the 20th century was rivaled only by Nazi crimes. Western historians skip over how much imperial Japan abused their neighbors in the Far East and the Pacific, but their methods were down right evil. Just read up on events such as the R8 pe of Nanking and you will get a sense of the depth of evil that Japanese imperialism inflicted on the Asian mainland and Pacific islands. Their actions resulted in as many as 14 million deaths. Their treatment of western POWs was far worse than the Nazis. Their crimes against women during military conflict is unspeakable. The fact that Japan enjoys such affluence and "western nation" status despite how much harm they inflicted on their neighbors is a major reason why so many people from other Far East nations have a deep resentment for the nation of Japan. While I agree that Japan is now a peaceful nation, the culture of Japan still retains a sense of superiority over other nations, both Western and Eastern.No clue what you're talking about as I don't think that I have downplayed or "belittled" anything. I said from 1895 forward. That includes the 20th century, which you have emphasized. Anyway, I drop this now so that we may return to discussions of banging beaver.

BobNSuzy
07-13-22, 16:26
No clue what you're talking about as I don't think that I have downplayed or "belittled" anything. I said from 1895 forward. That includes the 20th century, which you have emphasized. Anyway, I drop this now so that we may return to discussions of banging beaver.This isn't usually my topic of interest but isn't this like saying the home of the Samaria or China has no history of warefare. In 1895 their were no airplanes.

Escape Artist
07-13-22, 16:33
No clue what you're talking about as I don't think that I have downplayed or "belittled" anything. I said from 1895 forward. That includes the 20th century, which you have emphasized. Anyway, I drop this now so that we may return to discussions of banging beaver.Sorry, I like history. Topic dropped.

Escape Artist
07-13-22, 17:09
so Japan just need enough to protect itself even though Japan is ranked always in top 5 most of time or top10 even just with defense restriction by its own constitution LOL!

https://www.businessinsider.in/defense/ranked-the-worlds-20-strongest-militaries/slidelist/51930339.cms#slideid=51930374.Perhaps Japanese military capabilities basically serve as a Western outpost to keep Russian and Chinese interests strategically in check.

Mr Ho
07-13-22, 23:04
Perhaps Japanese military capabilities basically serve as a Western outpost to keep Russian and Chinese interests strategically in check.We are very important shield for US military strategy, look at the map, it literally shaped shield and also the location too! But look, one great thing about Japan is that we have tremendous ability to learn to evolve to make things better to perfection, so we learnt from second world war that:

1): Our technology and its quality is top notch.

2): We have capability to be top military nation and can invade whole Asia if we wish to. But now we do not at all!

3): We can beat all nations as we historically have, but not USA.

4): USA is someone we can resonate and co-operate with as not just a ally, but as a good friend.

5): Above all and most importantly, war do not solve anything, but cause more hate that could last for decades! So no war!

6): We can dominate world with economy not military! Not in negative way, but have our presence is what I mean that can be in harmony!

So if Japan were to change constitution and militarize again, so we can offense not just defense by constitution, we have zero interest attack others, I mean for what? We have so much to lose! We are top G7 nation with responsibilities to act right and correct, so why lose such position that took us like 50 years to built till we became top nation since around year 1980 !

Strategically, we will be good friend to west and USA, but we will try our best to participate in their "liberation" operation in middle east or Iran etc as we have no problem talking to them and get the deals done! But we also understand why West are doing military actions in those nations, so we help, but we won't kill there, we give ground support for infrastructures with top technology with quality that we are best at! But no killing!

Mr Ho
07-13-22, 23:25
I know and understand all of that. My point is that none of that compares to the rampage that occurred from around 1895 forward through 1945 and the end of WW2.When Japan choose to fight against USA, that is when things got real rampage because till then West had no significant enemy that can fight in same level as them, but Japan basically beat all Asian nations, France, Holland and UK in Asia too, then when USA came in then Japan decided to attack pearl harbor to take on USA, after that is when things got real rampage and real ugly all over Asia! It was real Godzilla against King kong and only time in history two modern nations are fighting with most advance weapons in the whole world and only time two sides were using top level air craft carriers in full scale in war to this day that is! Which lead to respect between nations and as result millions of people died, but US and Japan became best friend after that, so if the end is good, all is good as the saying goes here, but US-Japan relation is miracle that born in biggest tragedy of history as that was the biggest modern war by far in history!

After that war and only that war, all other war is like one side have top weapon like aircraft carrier with F22 A,be, other top end bombers and other side is just fighting with AK47 and sword and stick and stones kind of situations LOL!

Turgid
07-14-22, 14:50
.... but US-Japan relation is miracle that born in biggest tragedy of history as that was the biggest modern war by far in history!....Not so. US vs Japan was the biggest naval war in history. Germany vs Russia was the biggest land and air war in history and also the total biggest in history.

Steve 9696
07-14-22, 18:49
Hey all. Hate to interrupt the greatest military debate in history, but anyone want to fuck? I mean not each other. But you know. Girls.

Seriously. Could use guidance on options northeast of theüsseldorf. Say Essen and Dortmund area. Open to FKKS. Mini brothels. Whatever this esteemed crowd seems worthy. I'm a fan of the Latina style Romanian Vs Nordic if that matters.

P.S. Been doing Seeking almost exclusively during pandemic, including multi day and fly to me visits with "girlfriends". If anyone needs any Seeking tips drop me a line. It's paradise once you slog thru purgatory.

Escape Artist
07-14-22, 20:48
Hey all. Hate to interrupt the greatest military debate in history, but anyone want to fuck? I mean not each other. But you know. Girls.

Seriously. Could use guidance on options northeast of thesseldorf. Say Essen and Dortmund area. Open to FKKS. Mini brothels. Whatever this esteemed crowd seems worthy. I'm a fan of the Latina style Romanian Vs Nordic if that matters.

P.S. Been doing Seeking almost exclusively during pandemic, including multi day and fly to me visits with "girlfriends". If anyone needs any Seeking tips drop me a line. It's paradise once you slog thru purgatory.Essen is centrally located between Penelope to the Northeast, Prime to the Southeast and Villa Venus to the northwest. If you're in Dortmund then Penelope is 20 west and is the only game in / near town unless you want to visit some seedier places like Luder Lounge with a line up of like less than 6 girls.

Just keep in mind that area is super blue collar so don't expect anything like Frankfurt level atmosphere, amenities, or line up quality. If 50 girls are in a club, only about five or six I would rate a 7 or above, and maybe only one or two would be an 8. Stunners are rare in all of NRW.

Of the 3 clubs mentioned, I actually like Villa Venus the most despite it having only a line up of 8-12. Facilities are nice, service is reliably excellent, and if 12 girls are present, I usually find about three of them to be 7. 5 to 8. 5. Bad part is being pretty small, it can easily turn into a sausage fest and you may find yourself waiting very long for the superstar girls. And food system is like Oceans. You get a 10 euro credit towards a la carte menu food, beer is not part of that credit. Light breakfast provided, but only 2-3 girls ever work during breakfast / lunch hours.

Mr Ho
07-14-22, 23:36
Not so. US vs Japan was the biggest naval war in history. Germany vs Russia was the biggest land and air war in history and also the total biggest in history.I agree about the naval war and as for size I half agree because Japan was fighting way too many more nations than German were fighting, but yes, German on land fought well in Europe, they took over Europe quite easily until USA came in! Same story with Japan taking over whole Asia quite easily until USA came in, but we did kick out US out of Philippines once, but when USA came back with full force, then that is when things became rampage!

Conclusion; USA is required force in the world and war between big nations are not good idea because it lead to chaotic rampage for surrounding nations!

I also add that Russia back then had strong military, but now it is so low tech and low quality military with no organization or strategy or order what so ever LOL! All Russia have now is nuclear weapons that they often shamefully use as threats, I mean where is the sense in their head in 21st century! Oh and many soldiers that they use as some kind of toys to waste! It is crazy how communism ideology can bring down so many nations!

However, the failure of Russia lead to failure of all eastern european nations that lead to good line up in FKK like all romanians, moldovians, hungarians stunners that we fucked so all is good LOL!

Mr Ho
07-14-22, 23:39
Hey all. Hate to interrupt the greatest military debate in history, but anyone want to fuck? I mean not each other. But you know. Girls.

Seriously. Could use guidance on options northeast of thesseldorf. Say Essen and Dortmund area. Open to FKKS. Mini brothels. Whatever this esteemed crowd seems worthy. I'm a fan of the Latina style Romanian Vs Nordic if that matters.

P.S. Been doing Seeking almost exclusively during pandemic, including multi day and fly to me visits with "girlfriends". If anyone needs any Seeking tips drop me a line. It's paradise once you slog thru purgatory.It is important as history is very related to FKK line up!

Thanks to soviet union and their messed up ideology that we got all sort of beauties working in FKK many decades later! And even now with this Russian attack on Ukraine etc will affect FKK line up and escort in future! So these events are sad, but also happy events for mongers as we sadly and happily benefits from this!

As sad as it is and we may feel something bad, but we all going to still stick our elected penis into their mouth, anal and pussy LOL! It is what it is! They fights, I as a mongers fuck their young stunner girls is the way to go LOL!

History and FKK line up is correlated!

AznHotBoy
07-15-22, 03:05
Thanks to soviet union and their messed up ideology that we got all sort of beauties working in FKK many decades later!LOL! Soviet Union's greatest contribution to humanity is producing millions of cheap beautiful hookers for roughly 3 decades.

The next 3 decades is going to be rough. Prices are going to skyrocketing and looks will plummet. I'm guess it's going to be full of lady boys by the end of the decade. LOL! 300 E for 30 too! LOL!

DrPoon
07-15-22, 11:01
When Japan choose to fight against USA, that is when things got real rampage because till then West had no significant enemy that can fight in same level as them, but Japan basically beat all Asian nations, France, Holland and UK in Asia too, then when USA came in then Japan decided to attack pearl harbor to take on USA, after that is when things got real rampage and real ugly all over Asia! It was real Godzilla against King kong and only time in history two modern nations are fighting with most advance weapons in the whole world and only time two sides were using top level air craft carriers in full scale in war to this day that is! Which lead to respect between nations and as result millions of people died, but US and Japan became best friend after that, so if the end is good, all is good as the saying goes here, but US-Japan relation is miracle that born in biggest tragedy of history as that was the biggest modern war by far in history!

After that war and only that war, all other war is like one side have top weapon like aircraft carrier with F22 A,be, other top end bombers and other side is just fighting with AK47 and sword and stick and stones kind of situations LOL!Instead of messing around in Pearl Harbor, Japan should have sent a special military operation / Japanese Seals, into Mexico in the Sea of Cortez then made its way to New Mexico and then sent a carrier group to take out the nuclear research and assassinate Einstein and Oppenheimer and all other scientists there.

DrPoon
07-15-22, 12:01
As former President T opined that Germany and Japan were getting essentially free national defense from the USA and the USA was subsidizing their freedom. So Japan got to devote all of its Gross Domestic Product on making nice reliable cars and having a high standard of living. Its almost too late now since China has tons of nuclear weapons and Japan doesn't. There needs to be a buildup and transition period to make Japan military great again. They need to get aircraft carriers and tons of armed Japanese soldiers ready and hopefully Japan can invade the middle east in exchange for keeping low oil prices and take the oil off the hands of the slothy and low quality Arabs and make it continuous improvement low cost gasoline and quality.


We are very important shield for US military strategy, look at the map, it literally shaped shield and also the location too! But look, one great thing about Japan is that we have tremendous ability to learn to evolve to make things better to perfection, so we learnt from second world war that:

1): Our technology and its quality is top notch.

2): We have capability to be top military nation and can invade whole Asia if we wish to. But now we do not at all!

3): We can beat all nations as we historically have, but not USA.

4): USA is someone we can resonate and co-operate with as not just a ally, but as a good friend.

5): Above all and most importantly, war do not solve anything, but cause more hate that could last for decades! So no war!

6): We can dominate world with economy not military! Not in negative way, but have our presence is what I mean that can be in harmony!

Mr Ho
07-15-22, 13:39
Essen is centrally located between Penelope to the Northeast, Prime to the Southeast and Villa Venus to the northwest. If you're in Dortmund then Penelope is 20 west and is the only game in / near town unless you want to visit some seedier places like Luder Lounge with a line up of like less than 6 girls.

Just keep in mind that area is super blue collar so don't expect anything like Frankfurt level atmosphere, amenities, or line up quality. If 50 girls are in a club, only about five or six I would rate a 7 or above, and maybe only one or two would be an 8. Stunners are rare in all of NRW.

Of the 3 clubs mentioned, I actually like Villa Venus the most despite it having only a line up of 8-12. Facilities are nice, service is reliably excellent, and if 12 girls are present, I usually find about three of them to be 7. 5 to 8. 5. Bad part is being pretty small, it can easily turn into a sausage fest and you may find yourself waiting very long for the superstar girls. And food system is like Oceans. You get a 10 euro credit towards a la carte menu food, beer is not part of that credit. Light breakfast provided, but only 2-3 girls ever work during breakfast / lunch hours.That is why I like more near the city center upsell clubs, more stunner level beauties are tend to be found in those places as they go where the money is!

Turgid
07-15-22, 16:07
...... All Russia have now is nuclear weapons ....Having nuclear weapons is a guarantee that no other nation will fuck with you.

Steve 9696
07-15-22, 16:17
but we all going to still stick our elected penis into their mouth,!I am interested to learn that your penis was elected! Mine simply installed himself as king after a coup that left my poor addled brain a second class citizen. 😂.

Escape Artist
07-15-22, 18:26
That is why I like more near the city center upsell clubs, more stunner level beauties are tend to be found in those places as they go where the money is!Yea, NRW is not really designed for annual visiting mongers looking for only elite optics. High optic girls are spread out over a dozen clubs that are far apart and difficult or time consuming to reach without a car. English proficiency is a bit lower so the illusion of reciprocal attraction is more difficult to find. Girls seem to be more forthright that prostitution is their job while Hessen girls play the game a little more. For instance, Hessen girls are quicker to market themselves by exchanging social media contacts and interact with their clients. NRW girls will exchange WhatsApp and numbers but usually for the purpose of booking appointments. But because of that, a fly in monger who comes 4-6 times per year can have a great time. It seems contradicting since I said that girls sell the illusion less but it also means that authentic interactions are easier to form if you visit a girl multiple times. Pretty much all of my regulars in NRW give me personal service, DFK, BBBJ, intimacy, etc without hesitation. Meanwhile Hessen regulars often withold such services even after a half dozen rooms.

In short, Hessen is easier for occasional visitors looking for a top experience and are willing to pay. NRW takes more front end work but can lead to better mongering in the long run if you come somewhat regularly.

Tintin1
07-15-22, 20:30
I am interested to learn that your penis was elected! Mine simply installed himself as king after a coup that left my poor addled brain a second class citizen. 😂.My penis is a dictator. My brain has several times said. No not that girl. Yet after 'MrP forces me to say yes' all I can think of is 'I told you so'.

Sirioja
07-15-22, 21:02
Hey all,

Hate to interrupt the greatest military debate in history, but anyone want to fuck? I mean not each other. But you know. Girls.

Seriously. Could use guidance on options northeast of thesseldorf. Say Essen and Dortmund area. Open to FKKS. Mini brothels. Whatever this esteemed crowd seems worthy. I'm a fan of the Latina style Romanian Vs Nordic if that matters.

P.S. Been doing Seeking almost exclusively during pandemic, including multi day and fly to me visits with "girlfriends". If anyone needs any Seeking tips drop me a line. It's paradise once you slog thru purgatory.At least 6 clubs in this area, more than 100 girls, higher level on 2022 and for less expensive than falling quality for too expensive Hessen. Few higher level girls than at Globe. Some almost daily regulars visit now, rather than Hessen. NL could also become more and more interesting.

Sirioja
07-15-22, 21:49
LOL! Soviet Union's greatest contribution to humanity is producing millions of cheap beautiful hookers for roughly 3 decades.

The next 3 decades is going to be rough. Prices are going to skyrocketing and looks will plummet. I'm guess it's going to be full of lady boys by the end of the decade. LOL! 300 E for 30 too! LOL!Yes, Russian Lina was a so pretty, full natural, Russian doll on Tuesday, even not fire for sex, but what a natural beauty. I showed to other french guy met on last Saturday in Rhur. He reacted: Wow!

Mr Ho
07-15-22, 23:03
Having nuclear weapons is a guarantee that no other nation will fuck with you.That is the debate we are having here now, we have the capability technologically and the reserve of enough ingredient to make the most compact, but most impact nuclear weapon in the world and also missiles if we wish to go toward that direction and some of US political sectors want us to, but the question we are having is that whether this is the right way to go as human?

Maybe we won't make it, but go for nuclear sharing with USA! We shall see, but ukrainian invasion proved to us that some nation never learnt or evolve since second world war in 1940's! So we have to improvise and adapt! Unfortunately!

We wish we have enough technology to somehow move our land to right next to Hawaii LOL! We got our best friend on our right side, but we got north Korea, China, russia etc the mentally insane mafia states with the head of 1940's LOL!

Mr Ho
07-15-22, 23:04
I am interested to learn that your penis was elected! Mine simply installed himself as king after a coup that left my poor addled brain a second class citizen.I realize, beautiful young stunners girls are born to be fucked, but not to be loved LOL! So I fuck them! I have been fucking them ever since I am 17 and I will keep on fucking them well into my 70's LOL! If my dick won't erect when I am 70 then well, I rely myself on great science world LOL!

Turgid
07-16-22, 14:55
.....We wish we have enough technology to somehow move our land to right next to Hawaii LOL! We got our best friend on our right side, but we got north Korea, China, russia etc the mentally insane mafia states with the head of 1940's LOL!In the first half of the 20th century Japan was the most powerful country in Asia. They even beat Russia in a war in 1905. However, Japanese were upset that Europe and the US never treated them as equals. Nevertheless, they sided with Europe and America against the Germans in WWI. Japanese were again upset after helping in that war that Europe and America never gave the recognition they thought they deserved as those countries continued to treat them as inferiors. At the onset of WWII with German successes early on Japan joined the axis powers. We all know the result of that. Japan's major concern now is China which is the powerhouse in Asia at the moment. So Japan is obviously siding with the US and Europe. Its all a matter of strategic alliances, not friendship.

The Cane
07-16-22, 17:24
Hey Mr. Ho and all, while discussing some proposed new legislation in Spain with some mongers in the Costa del Sol Club Reports Only thread, I came up with a new word to describe economic theory as it applies to prostitution. We've all heard of "Reaganomics" and "Abenomics". I now introduce to thee "Tuteconomics"! LOLOLOLOL! Hahaha!

Mr Ho
07-16-22, 23:11
In the first half of the 20th century Japan was the most powerful country in Asia. They even beat Russia in a war in 1905. However, Japanese were upset that Europe and the US never treated them as equals. Nevertheless, they sided with Europe and America against the Germans in WWI. Japanese were again upset after helping in that war that Europe and America never gave the recognition they thought they deserved as those countries continued to treat them as inferiors. At the onset of WWII with German successes early on Japan joined the axis powers. We all know the result of that. Japan's major concern now is China which is the powerhouse in Asia at the moment. So Japan is obviously siding with the US and Europe. Its all a matter of strategic alliances, not friendship.You have accurate understanding of history, yes we beat Russia both land and navy easily, as I keep on saying, Russians are strong, but not as much as they claim or the world says, they have horrible lack of organization and zero brain for strategy! During Japan Russia war, they had better military and numbers, but they lost fast and terribly as they have no organization or even worst zero strategy, just violent and overly aggressive as they still are now! They did have balls though, but balls are not enough to win the war, you have to be strong, need strategy, technology and good organization with will to win which Russia lacked always! That was was last chance for Tzar nicolai to remain in power, but he lost that war against Japan and some historian claim that partly lead to Russian revolution!

Let not for get Japan China war as well, they had support from west namely England mostly, and the land was huge, so it is hard to get things organized, but it is not in the blood of China to fight as they are not warrior race, one thing I notice is that somehow communists are not good at war, they are terrible actually, but just aggressive! They can only fight weaker nations like Tibet etc, but not the big ones!

However, what most important is that Japan never had fair one on one war beside Japan Russia war! During ww2 for example, we were fighting like over 20 nations at once LOL! Some real strong ones were in that 20 nations too like UK, French, Netherlander, Australia etc and all Asian nations LOL!! Plus USA! And we were winning till USA joined! USA cannot be beaten and I am just glad that US and Japan are biggest allies! UK will join the pact more strongly soon or later now that UK left EU!

China is threat to all and since it is next to Japan, it is big threat and we made them rich and gave them the technology! We had many wars with China before and we never lost any of them, so our problem is not China, but our problem is Japan as in we have to change our constitution! And we have such a strong left wing blocking right wing to do so! And as you know we just lost shinzo abe! So let us see how far we can change to constitution that forbid attacking other nations even though we are attacked, we can only defend! But it is amazing how Japan is on top 5 military nation in most ranking with such a strict restriction by constitution!

History is interesting! And most people do not know what happened in this planet before! And history do affect FKK line up!

Mr Ho
07-17-22, 03:52
Hey Mr. Ho and all, while discussing some proposed new legislation in Spain with some mongers in the Costa del Sol Club Reports Only thread, I came up with a new word to describe economic theory as it applies to prostitution. We've all heard of "Reaganomics" and "Abenomics". I now introduce to thee "Tuteconomics"! LOLOLOLOL! Hahaha!Analist is my favorite type of analyst LOL! And yeah, prostitution line up and history or any historical level chaotic events of this world do have affect to the line up of prostitution whether it is escort or FKK, so as keen analists and mongers, it is important to be ready for such chaotic events with a lot of money on our hand, so we can exchange it for sexual experiences with many young beautiful stunners LOL!

The down fall of young beautiful girls is where we mongers fly high LOL! It is ironic truth, but it is the truth LOL!

Ukraine situation is sad, but it may change the line up of sex industry in long term as it did not just made Ukraine and Russia poor, but it also affected surrounding nations! And this happened after pandemic! So let us see how this situation evolve into for us living in the world of mongers LOL!

Sirioja
07-17-22, 18:39
Analist is my favorite type of analyst LOL! And yeah, prostitution line up and history or any historical level chaotic events of this world do have affect to the line up of prostitution whether it is escort or FKK, so as keen analists and mongers, it is important to be ready for such chaotic events with a lot of money on our hand, so we can exchange it for sexual experiences with many young beautiful stunners LOL!

The down fall of young beautiful girls is where we mongers fly high LOL! It is ironic truth, but it is the truth LOL!

Ukraine situation is sad, but it may change the line up of sex industry in long term as it did not just made Ukraine and Russia poor, but it also affected surrounding nations! And this happened after pandemic! So let us see how this situation evolve into for us living in the world of mongers LOL!Russians and Ukrainians escorting in Paris, despite law, even prostitution is not forbidden in France, since long ago before war. I heard Ukrainians could be allowed for registration in Germany, but don t know when.

Turgid
07-18-22, 00:27
You have accurate understanding of history, yes we beat Russia both land and navy easily, as I keep on saying, Russians are strong, but not as much as they claim or the world says, they have horrible lack of organization and zero brain for strategy! During Japan Russia war, they had better military and numbers, but they lost fast and terribly as they have no organization or even worst zero strategy, just violent and overly aggressive as they still are now! They did have balls though, but balls are not enough to win the war, you have to be strong, need strategy, technology and good organization with will to win which Russia lacked always! That was was last chance for Tzar nicolai to remain in power, but he lost that war against Japan and some historian claim that partly lead to Russian revolution!

Let not for get Japan China war as well, they had support from west namely England mostly, and the land was huge, so it is hard to get things organized, but it is not in the blood of China to fight as they are not warrior race, one thing I notice is that somehow communists are not good at war, they are terrible actually, but just aggressive! They can only fight weaker nations like Tibet etc, but not the big ones!

However, what most important is that Japan never had fair one on one war beside Japan Russia war! During ww2 for example, we were fighting like over 20 nations at once LOL! Some real strong ones were in that 20 nations too like UK, French, Netherlander, Australia etc and all Asian nations LOL!! Plus USA! And we were winning till USA joined! USA cannot be beaten and I am just glad that US and Japan are biggest allies! UK will join the pact more strongly soon or later now that UK left EU!

China is threat to all and since it is next to Japan, it is big threat and we made them rich and gave them the technology! We had many wars with China before and we never lost any of them, so our problem is not China, but our problem is Japan as in we have to change our constitution! And we have such a strong left wing blocking right wing to do so! And as you know we just lost shinzo abe! So let us see how far we can change to constitution that forbid attacking other nations even though we are attacked, we can only defend! But it is amazing how Japan is on top 5 military nation in most ranking with such a strict restriction by constitution!

History is interesting! And most people do not know what happened in this planet before! And history do affect FKK line up!I think you are making the same mistake as the West is right now. Russia and China of the past is not Russia and China now. The worst thing the West can do right now is to underestimate them. A war today with either will be ill-advised.

Mr Ho
07-18-22, 02:12
Russians and Ukrainians escorting in Paris, despite law, even prostitution is not forbidden in France, since long ago before war. I heard Ukrainians could be allowed for registration in Germany, but don t know when.Exactly, Ukrainians are allowed to work in EU for 3 years now is what I read, but I also do not know when, I think it is already implemented, but just like Greece crisis, we do not see those girls usually from crisis nations in FKK, only Romanians, but Romanians are beautiful so we got it lucky!

Mr Ho
07-18-22, 02:15
I think you are making the same mistake as the West is right now. Russia and China of the past is not Russia and China now. The worst thing the West can do right now is to underestimate them. A war today with either will be ill-advised.We do not under-estimate China, as for Russia we do not underestimate their insanity, but their economy has big limitation and their military is not strong, but nuclear weapons are the real problem! And their mindset on things are bad recipe with nuclear weapons! These red nations are bandits of the world, China being the boss of all and north Korea and Russia being the pet nations of China, more so as we advance into future!

However, China is more reasonable comparison to Russia and north Korea, and it is good like that because by far Chinese are more smarter than Russia and north Korea! Chinese quality is low at the moment, but give them few decades, their quality level will catch up! They are not stupid people at all as they look and behave LOL!

Mr Ho
07-18-22, 03:17
I think you are making the same mistake as the West is right now. Russia and China of the past is not Russia and China now. The worst thing the West can do right now is to underestimate them. A war today with either will be ill-advised.P.S.: To add, I think G7 should drop stupid illusion of impossible globalization as some nations are not competent and their head is too insane! So G7 should stick to just G7 mainly plus the allies like EU nations and Australia and New Zealand and maybe few other normal head nations whom we can have normal dialogue!

Downandup
07-18-22, 08:07
Russians and Ukrainians escorting in Paris, despite law, even prostitution is not forbidden in France, since long ago before war. I heard Ukrainians could be allowed for registration in Germany, but don t know when.For a few months now, Ukrainians have been given visas allowing them to stay and work in Germany but it does not allow self employment so the girls can't register as working girls and work in the FKK's.

PhuckBiden
07-18-22, 08:34
Analist is my favorite type of analyst LOL! And yeah, prostitution line up and history or any historical level chaotic events of this world do have affect to the line up of prostitution whether it is escort or FKK, so as keen analists and mongers, it is important to be ready for such chaotic events with a lot of money on our hand, so we can exchange it for sexual experiences with many young beautiful stunners LOL!

The down fall of young beautiful girls is where we mongers fly high LOL! It is ironic truth, but it is the truth LOL!

Ukraine situation is sad, but it may change the line up of sex industry in long term as it did not just made Ukraine and Russia poor, but it also affected surrounding nations! And this happened after pandemic! So let us see how this situation evolve into for us living in the world of mongers LOL!I'm waiting for my ham sandwich.

Don't make me take off my belt.

DrPoon
07-18-22, 10:32
For a few months now, Ukrainians have been given visas allowing them to stay and work in Germany but it does not allow self employment so the girls can't register as working girls and work in the FKK's.They can go on kaufmich or sexdo. De.

Sirioja
07-18-22, 13:12
For a few months now, Ukrainians have been given visas allowing them to stay and work in Germany but it does not allow self employment so the girls can't register as working girls and work in the FKK's.Some Ukrainians really speaking Russian at Mainhattan.

Mr Ho
07-19-22, 05:25
I'm waiting for my ham sandwich.

Don't make me take off my belt.Here is your sandwich:

https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=rottencom&hl=ja&sxsrf=ALiCzsZ_xg4-F9LUXSys1_huUKAUGitglg:1658204434645&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjHsKryjIT5AhVytlYBHQtpCOoQ_AUoAXoECAIQAw&biw=1600&bih=755&dpr=1

Be Wilder
07-19-22, 17:51
Exactly, Ukrainians are allowed to work in EU for 3 years now is what I read, but I also do not know when, I think it is already implemented, but just like Greece crisis, we do not see those girls usually from crisis nations in FKK, only Romanians, but Romanians are beautiful so we got it lucky!Yes, it was a shame we never saw the Greeks arrive in FKK when their economy crashed. Though I remember one stunning girl who provided great service in Sharks who was Greek. Not often I go with the same girl twice in one night but glad I did so with her. Her name was Vaana and was slim, natural olive skin, small tits, stunning features and knew how to carry herself. A classy woman and was fantastic in the room.

Sirioja
07-19-22, 20:11
Yes, it was a shame we never saw the Greeks arrive in FKK when their economy crashed. Though I remember one stunning girl who provided great service in Sharks who was Greek. Not often I go with the same girl twice in one night but glad I did so with her. Her name was Vaana and was slim, natural olive skin, small tits, stunning features and knew how to carry herself. A classy woman and was fantastic in the room.You mean the claimed greek? Curvy, milky skin in fishnet, staying close to ex kino. A Greek, told to be good GFE, in Rhur, but not pretty enough for me.

Mr Ho
07-19-22, 23:49
Yes, it was a shame we never saw the Greeks arrive in FKK when their economy crashed. Though I remember one stunning girl who provided great service in Sharks who was Greek. Not often I go with the same girl twice in one night but glad I did so with her. Her name was Vaana and was slim, natural olive skin, small tits, stunning features and knew how to carry herself. A classy woman and was fantastic in the room.As a rational thinker, I was hoping for many greek stunners to come to Germany for quick cash during their nations economical downfall, but I saw only one in palace and she unfortunately was not pretty at all and far from stunner level beauty LOL!

It is odd how FKK line up works, but I guess this pandemic followed by Ukraine war can bring positive things to the line up of prostitution industry! I hear some news from Dubai disco set up prostitution scenes has changed, but not FKK! I have a feeling that for FKK, the strong system of sending girls from abroad is already established that when girls come from abroad, it has to be through this system if you are foreign girls? As for German based girls, it seems to be more free to walk in situation? This is what I am thinking when it comes to how the line up is formed in FKK! There are strong tendency of mostly Romanian, and then hmmm maybe Bulgarians when it comes to foreign girls, both are beautiful races, so they are welcome, at least that is a relief LOL!

McAdonis
07-20-22, 00:44
In the alternative they can ramp up nuclear power and convert to electric water heaters and electric a / c heater units instead of natural gas.Delaying phase out of nuclear and installing electric heaters only accounts for 9 bcm, substantially less than the 155 bcm Germany imported from Russia last year: https://www.reuters.com/markets/asia/how-europe-can-kick-its-russian-gas-habit-2022-03-01/.

Moreover, Germany uses eighty percent of its natural gas for industry and heating. Nuclear cannot help with either of those needs: https://www.politico.eu/article/gas-crisis-germany-nuclear-power-debate/.


The even bigger problem is how the hell Germans trusted Russia so much?Cheap Russian energy was a major competitive advantage. Without it, Germany probably would not have enjoyed the economic prosperity it did over the last two decades.



Long one of the globe's economic stars, Germany is on a brink of a reversal of fortune which some fear imperils the prosperity built by its post-war generation.

"Globalisation, just-in-time supply chains and cheap energy from Russia - those are things that are changing and they are changing for good," said Carsten Brzeski, an economist with Dutch bank ING.

Those advantages have helped make German industry, from giants to hundreds of medium-sized champions, so successful. "This is a real turning point for Germany," he said.

Gunther Schnabl, an economist with Leipzig University, blames German penny pinching for the country's predicament.

For years, Germany has saved money on defence and infrastructure while helping exporters by keeping wages low and importing cheap gas from Russia, he said.

"But it wasn't investing the money. Instead it was using it to hide an erosion of prosperity. This isn't going to work for much longer. Divisions and dissatisfaction are growing."

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/nobodys-perfect-german-economy-engine-europe-splutters-2022-07-08/

Mr Ho
07-20-22, 01:55
Yes, it was a shame we never saw the Greeks arrive in FKK when their economy crashed. Though I remember one stunning girl who provided great service in Sharks who was Greek. Not often I go with the same girl twice in one night but glad I did so with her. Her name was Vaana and was slim, natural olive skin, small tits, stunning features and knew how to carry herself. A classy woman and was fantastic in the room.I am never turned off with small tits as long as they are beautifully shaped with good shaped / colored nipples LOL!

But those beautifully shaped with beautiful nipples small tits often turns into plastic sillicone tits in FKK is something I extremely hate! After the surgery, I always tell the girls that I am so glad I tasted those before the surgeries!

Tattoo and surgeries seems to be set default trend in FKK!

Mr Ho
07-20-22, 07:50
Delaying phase out of nuclear and installing electric heaters only accounts for 9 bcm, substantially less than the 155 bcm Germany imported from Russia last year: https://www.reuters.com/markets/asia/how-europe-can-kick-its-russian-gas-habit-2022-03-01/.

Moreover, Germany uses eighty percent of its natural gas for industry and heating. Nuclear cannot help with either of those needs: https://www.politico.eu/article/gas-crisis-germany-nuclear-power-debate/.

Cheap Russian energy was a major competitive advantage. Without it, Germany probably would not have enjoyed the economic prosperity it did over the last two decades.As a monger, I hope to see some Ukrainians in FKK and Russian else where, the younger and stunner the better LOL!

So cold war begin, but this time round Russia do not have many former soviet union nations with them, but have some not so strong nations with them that will all be owned by China soon or later!

G7 should stick together as we always have as together we can win and dominate the world! Or we do not have other choices do we?

DrPoon
07-20-22, 19:04
Delaying phase out of nuclear and installing electric heaters only accounts for 9 bcm, substantially less than the 155 bcm Germany imported from Russia last year: https://www.reuters.com/markets/asia/how-europe-can-kick-its-russian-gas-habit-2022-03-01/.

Moreover, Germany uses eighty percent of its natural gas for industry and heating. Nuclear cannot help with either of those needs: https://www.politico.eu/article/gas-crisis-germany-nuclear-power-debate/.

Cheap Russian energy was a major competitive advantage. Without it, Germany probably would not have enjoyed the economic prosperity it did over the last two decades.The Reuters article is just outrageous when it states that the USA should subsidize Germany to buy heat pumps / ac units! The standard of living in the USA is so much below Germany it is outrageous.

Its just unbelievable. Who cares if Russia takes over Ukraine at this point! The Ukrainians women can all move to Germany or anywhere else in the EU and then Comrade P. Will be left with a sausage fest and if he wants the women back he will have to appease them by being a little less dictatorlike. But in the meantime Germany should keep buying Russian gas and delete the sanctions.

The Cane
07-21-22, 01:01
The Reuters article is just outrageous when it states that the USA should subsidize Germany to buy heat pumps / ac units! The standard of living in the USA is so much below Germany it is outrageous.

Its just unbelievable. Who cares if Russia takes over Ukraine at this point! The Ukrainians women can all move to Germany or anywhere else in the EU and then Comrade P. Will be left with a sausage fest and if he wants the women back he will have to appease them by being a little less dictatorlike. But in the meantime Germany should keep buying Russian gas and delete the sanctions.Germany was stupid to tie its long term energy security to Russia! The Russians simply can't be trusted to be reliable partners in the world economic community. They would much rather do things that are detrimental to even their own national interests. There's going to be some shivering bodies and chattering teeth in Germany this upcoming winter!