FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Varenne]

I don't know why you're posting on hereNeither I do. Should this go on, I suggest to continue in a a thread which is more appropriate for generic discussions.

[Myrrh]

Just noticed that FKK Arabella has changed its website now to just a one-pager with no mention of AO. Unfortunately the page is in German and does not translate with google translate but as far as I can see there is no mention.

Previously there had been a sub page of the website with details of the girls and what services they provided including those girls that provided AO. Admittedly that page had been out of date for many months as most of the girls mentioned had moved on long ago, but still it did make clear that Arabs was definitely an AO club.

Now I am just wondering if Arabella have cleaned up their website then like FKK F39 and Dietzenbach they have also removed photos with descriptions of services provided from the reception area inside the club itself?

The bandwagon of AO suppression now seems to be gathering full steam ahead.

[Hessen Bub]

AO has been removed from the website. It just states that DFK, CIM and anal are normal.

HB.

[Neurosynth]

In search of an F39 substitute (although I knew they wouldn't be. Smaller. Less compelling line up) I went to Villa Romantica and Sauna Grimberg. Both are part of the RTC chain. Both are similar in that the facilities are probably clean and healthy, but unimpressive. The women working there also tend to be carrying extra weight, have sagging boobs, and so on. Nothing terrible, just not F39 quality (let alone, say, Oase or other "non-AO" FKKs.)

But as seems to be the pattern, at each place I was able to find 1 girl who left me quite satisfied.

At Romantica I hooked up with a dyed blond girl named Magdalena, or Madalena, or something else close to that. She was the only one who did it for me physically. She's taller than many, reasonably thin, nice be+ sized breasts that are firm and shapely. Most of all she has (I think) a very cute face. Small chin, nice cheekbones, big eyes. And she seems perky and happy rather than drained and sullen like many of the other girls. More and more I'm letting attitude trump looks, but relative to the women at Romantica on this day she led in both.

Started with the usual public making out and BBBJ. Went to the room. More of the same, and then when it was time for penetration she grabbed a condom and said "put on?" She seemed to want to use one, but then paused expecting me to protest. Which I did. She said OK but don't CIP. The dreaded AO-lite! But she still had a sunny attitude and worked on me well. Then, getting close, I realized I hadn't "pulled out" in many many years. Frankly, I don't recall ever pulling out. I always thought it was really dumb. That if you needed to do that, then you really should be using better birth control. (That's not why the FKK girls want guys to pull out though.) Anyway I expressed my frustration and she smiled and said it would be OK "just for you. " Being flustered by the prior few minutes I had a little trouble, but she got on top and rode me across the finish line like a Belmont Stakes jockey.

(I realize that some are going to think I've revealed too much here. I don't. The end.).

At Grinberg things were more, excuse the expression, grim. Initially I couldn't find a single woman without obvious flaws. Many were overweight. A couple much too old. But from the start Cindy was very explicit and even came over uninvited and sat in my lap and tried to start making out. Usually I would shut down such a girl cold. I really don't like to feel like I'm being played. Oddly, while she was aggressive, I didn't feel that way. I waited quite a while because I wanted to scope out this tall, very skinny girl I had caught a glimpse of. On closer inspection she was perhaps too skinny, and her face had a rather hard expression. I ended up going back to Cindy, again because of personality and a cute face.

Cindy is undeniably chubby. That's usually a show stopper for me. But a good amount of that excess weight made it to her boobs, and they are large without being overly pendulous. Rather nice they are actually. And like I said, she has a cute face. So I flag her over, we make out a bit, and I suggest we go upstairs even before the ritual public BBBJ. Once we get upstairs she asks "with gummy or no?" I say no, and she emphatically, and quite honestly I think, says "Good!" She seems to prefer without. Sex with her was very good, very passionate (or a remarkable simulation thereof), and with good technique. BBBJ, then her on top for a long time while kissing and so on, then finally I took over on top and after a bit bang! And it was over.

So as to the question of F39 substitutes.

On this day, in these places, there was a single girl substitute. Had I wanted to go with two or more girls at either of these places I would have been disappointed. And yes I paid 2 30 euro entry fees. But these two sessions were well worth the 60 euros each they totaled, and I had already planned on checking out both places. I *might* repeat, but the difference between finding 1 girl and 0 girls is not that great in number, but absolutely objectionable in practice. We will see.

[Free Dude]

Many a website is now removing any mention of AO. Websites as sexdo and fickanzeiger for instance, but also forums like Freiercafe. There was some explanation on the FC forum, they seem to have reason to think that "the authorities" are already making their preparations for when the law comes into effect. So from now on they won't allow any mention of girls or clubs allowing AO, because they fear it might incriminate them when the law becomes reality (in other words, it might give a reason to do a check on these clubs). On sexdo you had dozens of girls in Krefeld, Dusseldorf and Cologne that clearly stated in their profiles AO was possible, nowadays anything that might give that impression has been taken off. Even with the very same girls.

[Vito Corleone]

Now I am just wondering if Arabella have cleaned up their website then like FKK F39 and Dietzenbach they have also removed photos with descriptions of services provided from the reception area inside the club itself?

The bandwagon of AO suppression now seems to be gathering full steam ahead.Dietz removed their photos & replaced it with a vase with fresh cut flowers.

Romantika & Arabella have photos of the current lineup of girls, but no service info. My experience in all 3 clubs have not changed. Romantika does have a "this house is condom only or whatever the German translation" sign above the wooden pay lockers.

[Vito Corleone]

At Romantica I hooked up with a dyed blond girl named Magdalena, or Madalena, or something else close to that. She was the only one who did it for me physically. She's taller than many, reasonably thin, nice be+ sized breasts that are firm and shapely. Most of all she has (I think) a very cute face. Small chin, nice cheekbones, big eyes. And she seems perky and happy rather than drained and sullen like many of the other girls. More and more I'm letting attitude trump looks, but relative to the women at Romantica on this day she led in both..She was Flori at Venus Nov. / Dec. 2013 & Jan. Of 2014.

Roxana at Romantika Feb. / March 2014.

Has been away for quite awhile. Gained some weight, but service is still top notch!

[Vito Corleone]

She is still absolutely stunning! I experienced no problems with her. Just great off the hook sessions. I must be missing something as there were no signs of hiding / avoiding clients or stalling tactics not wanting to go to the room. She still seems a bit aloof & doesn't smile much so some clients might be hesitant. She belongs in a FKK or sauna club like Raissa. Seems like Raissa is receiving rave reviews at her new club & even with her notorious sour mood if you do not finish within 10-15 minutes.

Rest if the Lu was horrendous! Not much better at Romantika. Minus madalina, the leftovers were a tad bit better compared to Arabella. Instead of those illegal AO signs, the authorities should make it illegal for those horrendous looking women to work.

[Downandup]

Many a website is now removing any mention of AO. Websites as sexdo and fickanzeiger for instance, but also forums like Freiercafe.Sexdo must be going through a cleaning process as I can still see a few. I wonder what a site like tabulose huren is going to do when that's their reason for existing.

[Usel1]

Dietz removed their photos & replaced it with a vase with fresh cut flowers.

Romantika & Arabella have photos of the current lineup of girls, but no service info. My experience in all 3 clubs have not changed. Romantika does have a "this house is condom only or whatever the German translation" sign above the wooden pay lockers.Sorry Vito see.

But Arabella have no pics at all about its ladies.

[Vito Corleone]

Sorry Vito see.

But Arabella have no pics at all about its ladies.Have you actually been there? I was there & I saw the photos with my very own eyes.

[Usel1]

Have you actually been there? I was there & I saw the photos with my very own eyes.Sorry Vito,

I meant on the website not in the sauna.

Thanks anyway.

[Downandup]

I'll probably check out an AO club or three when I visit late next week. I'm hoping that AO is still on offer even if that's not on the web site.

Top of my list is going to be Fun Park. Then it's going to be La Luna followed up by Grimberg; Villa Venus or Verena. F39 is completely off my list if AO is banned. I've also found a number of hobbyhuren on sexdo. De that still offer AO so their locations are still on my list for a test.

I'm not sure about Bernd's, I was planning a day there on Friday 10th but it's advertised as "Couch Aktion Tag" - Public sex in the main room. So I'll put that off for a possible stop the following Monday or Tuesday as I'm not even sure if AO is possible for a first timer.

[Patbutter]

I'll probably check out an AO club or three when I visit late next week. I'm hoping that AO is still on offer even if that's not on the web site.

Top of my list is going to be Fun Park. Then it's going to be La Luna followed up by Grimberg; Villa Venus or Verena. F39 is completely off my list if AO is banned. I've also found a number of hobbyhuren on sexdo. De that still offer AO so their locations are still on my list for a test.

I'm not sure about Bernd's, I was planning a day there on Friday 10th but it's advertised as "Couch Aktion Tag" - Public sex in the main room. So I'll put that off for a possible stop the following Monday or Tuesday as I'm not even sure if AO is possible for a first timer.I'm curious how things are at Grimberg, in particular, with anticipation of legal changes. I don't know if you're considering going to Arabella, but it has been a good spot with a large selection of AO girls and is convenient to U-bahn public transportation from the Gelsenkirchen train station. I've got a trip to NRW planned in August, so I am eager to hear any updates.

[Usel1]

I'm curious how things are at Grimberg, in particular, with anticipation of legal changes. I don't know if you're considering going to Arabella, but it has been a good spot with a large selection of AO girls and is convenient to U-bahn public transportation from the Gelsenkirchen train station. I've got a trip to NRW planned in August, so I am eager to hear any updates.Bernd's is closed on week ends. So strange! Take note of this.

A bit expensive, entrance 70€.

On the other hand the website looks interesting as looks real as well.

But If you are in that area, it has sense.

In case you are close to Essen, Dortmund, Bernd's is far and slow as you have to travel in a traffic area.

Freude39: I'm not sure AO is banned. Just ask before but I know it depends on the single girl and what you agree with.

I'll recommend you Arabella first.

[Optimist]

Downandup. AO is still no problem at Freude according to german forums, even in the kino. Look forward to your report thanks.

BTW La Luna is closed on 12th April for one day

[Downandup]

I don't know if you're considering going to ArabellaThanks for the recommendation, it's on my list too so I'll make it a higher priority. I can't see myself doing every club as I have about 5 days and also want to do a lot of other things. But a club with a good line up of AO girls will interest me. All each club needs is the one right girl but you do have to look around.

[Downandup]

Downandup. AO is still no problem at Freude according to german forums, even in the kino. Look forward to your report thanks.

BTW La Luna is closed on 12th April for one dayThanks for the feedback. F39 is back on the list although I have far too many choices, I wonder if I can / should do two a day.

[Hessen Bub]

Bernd's is closed on week ends. So strange! Take note of this.

A bit expensive, entrance 70.

Yes. But CIM is included in the 50€/30 min session. At least it was the last time attended, must have been like five or six years ago.

HB.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Service has not changed at these clubs, presumably because the law is not yet in effect. Had two sessions at Grimberg (one with my favorite girl there), and four at Romantika (two with same girl). There is a girl there, Romanian, 20 years old, slim, nice ski jump tits, one month in the business, who is the cutest girl (emphasis on girl) I have ever seen in these kind of clubs. She should be in a regular FKK, where she could rake in the money, but has been ill-advised by a friend to come to Romantika. I went with her for a session. She did not like DATY very much, as she ended it fairly quickly. Fucking her bareback was fantastic; she came in missionary and looked exhausted. I turned her over to do doggie but after a few minutes she said no more and that she was kaput, so I just fondled her ass and pussy while she recuperated. She ignored / avoided me the rest of the evening, apparently not wanting a repeat performance. I would have loved to fuck her again but I don't ask for sessions with girls who obviously don't want to go with me. To fuck a girl like this for only 30 Euro (even if only once) is an opportunity not to be missed and I would suggest doing so before she realizes her true value and leaves for a regular club, like Raissa did.

[Jerem]

Hi,

I will be around the German border for a week and was thinking of going to Villa Venus on Sunday.

Hope to get there by 18.00 and hope they stay open late.

Also based on experience the last couple of days are AO still a standard service there (knowing it will be my first time in there).

Last but not least feels that CIM is a common practice if I can get confirmation.

During the week I hope to go at least 1 evenings after work to villa Venus or any other club likely with AO option.

Any advice for clubs knowing I come from Belgium.

Also will not arrive before 20.00 so I hope there is still activity in the evening.

Are there any clubs that have a black lady or a Thai lady?

Thanks


Downandup. AO is still no problem at Freude according to german forums, even in the kino. Look forward to your report thanks.

BTW La Luna is closed on 12th April for one day

[Optimist]

I hesitate to do a field report as they are now almost unknown on this forum. Entry 30 euro, sessions 30 euros for 30 minutes, with all extras free. Service level as good as anywhere. About 15 girls, mainly Bulgarian and chubby, leaving for me a choice of three or so. No food. Angie recognised me on entry and to my surprise organised a fmm session to include me, announcing this to the whole club Great fun. A new Romanian girl is very busy, very sensible and gives a top level genuine service, speaking good English.

The clientele was really quite welcoming.

I only went to meet a fellow ISG member but the two workers I went with were very good. For the price excellent 90 euros total compared to about 400 in a club like GT, but then they are very different creatures.

[Optimist]

60 entry, includes one session. Was there for two hours, and saw three lots of public sex, one of which was me. Girls are naked. The big drawback apart from poor facilities is that the girls see you all the time as the couches are all in one big room.

Went with very very slim Romanian Larissa who remembered me from a couple of years ago. Also with Bulgarian Melli, who does anal, and like Larissa, is very nice and also proficient.

About one third of club were Bulgarian, including one who spoke no German or english. I spoke to Bahar, who brushed me off very rudely. I wasn't exactly disappointed as she is rather unattractive.

Several of the Romanian were very nice looking, if not gazelle like.

Service seems to be very very good, as well as cheap: two sessions for 60, including in one case anal. Plus entry, for which you just get shower, coffee or soft drink, and an apple or biscuit or two. Needless to say, no outdoor area.

As mentioned before, this club is listed as an AO club, but condoms can be used and are available.

[Vito Corleone]

Thank you for the reports optimist!

[Christian G]

About 15 girls, mainly Bulgarian and chubby, leaving for me a choice of three or so. No food. Angie recognised me on entry and to my surprise organised a fmm session to include me, announcing this to the whole club Great fun. A new Romanian girl is very busy, very sensible and gives a top level genuine service, speaking good English.

Micky, Katy, Lily are still there??

[VonderJohn]

As mentioned before, this club is listed as an AO club, but condoms can be used and are available.Wait a sec. Regarding the AO. Why is it even allowed? Isn't it unsafe? Wouldn't the clients hesistate to go thru AO knowing that they may get infected? What's so good about AO that makes you want to take such a risk? Wouldn't you worry about your own safety?

[Optimist]

Christian. I don't know them, sorry. I was in the company of an isg member and wasn't paying as much attention to the girls as I should have.

[UltraHappy]

Wait a sec. Regarding the AO. Why is it even allowed?Because customers want it and they pay for it.


Isn't it unsafe?Yes. This is how people who have STDs caught them in the first place, unprotected sex with someone.


Wouldn't the clients hesistate to go thru AO knowing that they may get infected?Yes, many do hesitate. Most FKK clients don't frequent AO clubs.


What's so good about AO that makes you want to take such a risk?Obviously, it feels better.


Wouldn't you worry about your own safety?Yes, I would. That's why I, like the majority of FKK-goers, don't do AO. I always use a condom during sex - always.

This discussion is better suited for the safe sex thread however, so I suggest you continue this discussion, if desired, on that thread, not here.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Micky, Katy, Lily are still there??Micky and Katy were there as of 4/5/15. I don't know Lily.

[Usel1]

Hello gentlemen,

I'm planning to go close to Essen.

Main target Arabella where I hope to find again slim Gabi with German Sandra for a threesome.

I don't know if the stunning Alexandra is still there.

Second target, Grimberg: better Katy and Mickey but Cristina would be fine as well.

Third target? Villa Venus? Romantika? Or Freude39?

Anyway I have time (from 21st till 23rd May) and my friend prefers Penelope or Acapulco FKK.

Suggestion are welcome and thanks in advance!

[Jymondor]

Originally I was planning day in GT. But something changed I needed to complete my FKK program before evening. So I decided two-three quick AO sessions in F39. But GPS showed me 38 min traffic jam with three accidents. So I changed to VV.

Quite busy Sunday noon. At least four FKK quality girls. One of them Maryana even speak bearable English. LU above expectation. Service as usually. New Theke. I spotted only three girls from the old team. Other five or six new.

Two best looking girls were shuttling non stop between the zimmers and sofa. Definitely they are making better money than average FKK girls. But at 5:00 PM they already looked exhausted. So morning till noon is the best time for VV.

One consideration. A didn't see that these "shuttling" girls took shower between the sessions. But all girls I sessioned with asked for 5 min excuse to wash their pussies. I assume this is all you need to know about hygiene in the clubs like that.

[Optimist]

Jymondor. I was there from 3 to 6. 30 in the company of another ISG member. Shame you and I didn't see each other. I only went to catch the lovely slim Larissa before she went back to R. for a break. Excellent service, straightforward, no games: somehow she can always finish me, which is an unusual talent. The rest of the lineup was for me not exactly tempting hence myself and my isg companion left early

As for hygiene, I would not ask any girl to shower after every client, given the deleterious effects on the skin :)

[Vito Corleone]

Dear Jymondor,

Sorry for the silly question, but, what does "GT" stands for?

Thanks again about the report, even if we plan to visit these clubs only from Thursday 21st till Saturday 23rd.

RegardsGolden Time.

[Vito Corleone]

Jymondor. I was there from 3 to 6. 30 in the company of another ISG member. Shame you and I didn't see each other. I only went to catch the lovely slim Larissa before she went back to R. for a break. Excellent service, straightforward, no games: somehow she can always finish me, which is an unusual talent. The rest of the lineup was for me not exactly tempting hence myself and my isg companion left)Was Jasmine there? She would stand out, 6'1 without heels!

[Jymondor]

what does "GT" Golden Time.

[Jymondor]

Jymondor. I was there from 3 to 6. 30 in the company of another ISG member. Yes, shame. But I wasn't planning VV at all. I ended-up there as result of traffic jam.

[Englishbobaz]

Was at Arabella today, about 4/5 interesting to me took Ida 21 RO, very petite had a good time, then came backand took Sophie or was it sofia, good service can't complain about either. The smoke was very strong had to go to the garden a couple of times just to return To breathing air. 40 E entry 30 E of which was for the first girl, then 30 E per session after! Reminded me almost an exact copy of Diezenbach. Might go back just to Ida again tomorrow! Then headed back to FRA maybe a stop in Wuppertal and then FKK world.

[Myrrh]

Was at Arabella today, about 4/5 interesting to me took Ida 21 RO, very petite had a good time, then came backand took Sophie or was it sofia, good service can't complain about either. 40 E entry 30 E of which was for the first girl, then 30 E per session after!Coincidentally, I was at Arabella the day before you. You said that you only paid 10 euros entry whereas I had to pay 30 euro entry (as well as having to to pre-pay for at least one session at 30 euros). So I am wondering whether if you arrive early say before 12 pm that a 10 euro happy hour price is in place like at FKK Dietz. I had already written a detailed trip report about my visit there when I saw yours and was completely surprised that it had a totally different take to mine. Sofia was the only girl there who was anywhere doable to my eyes. I don't remember Ida being there. Unfortunately my evaluation of the experience and the club as it stands now contrasts drastically. I tend to side with Vito Corleone who said recently that he did a 180 degree when he saw the talent (or more to the point the lack of it). Nevertheless it's good to see trip reports about this place because hardly any have appeared for many months. Hopefully mine will be allowed.

[Englishbobaz]

Coincidentally, I was at Arabella the day before you. You said that you only paid 10 euros entry whereas I had to pay 30 euro entry (as well as having to to pre-pay for at least one session at 30 euros).You are correct I made a mistake. It was 30 plus 30 pre pay, Sabrina and Aida I got the spelling wrong went back yesterday just ti to Aida. Everyone has different ideas for what is acceptable and for 30 E I can let my standards slide a little. Coming from the USA where a 1 hour GFE can start at $200 and go up substantially from the 30 E for 30 mins is damned inexpensive.

[Usel1]

My visit to Arabella, Fredue and Villa Venus.

Arabella.

Great as usual Gaby.

I play with Maria from Bulgaria an amusing threesome!

Villa Venus:

Alis really nice and pretty!

Isabella, her friend, really good to; she looks shaped by a comic draw artist.

I had also fun with Maria (about 30 yo) and Elena who had a good start but disappointing as usual Romanian style end.

Fredue:

Andrea nice and performing but not wit someone else, e. G, other girl for threesome.

Bonny, small and well done Bulgarian! Wow. Good show.

Bianca and Lana.

Good but not to have a game in 3.

Anyway, lot of fun worth the effort to go to Bochum and Dortmund.

[Nebakanezzar]

I have an etiquette question for these AO clubs (really all FKK clubs).

When you are on the couches with a girl at at point are you committed to going to a room with her? Meaning if you sit down and start kissing and you don't like how they kiss can you get up and leave? Or if it progresses to them giving you a BBBJ and you don't like their technique can you get up and walk away?

[Banana Boi]

Kissing would be the committal line at a non-AO FKK.

Bottom line is you need to be fair with the girl. What you don't want is to upset a girl because she will quickly tell all her friends to avoid you.

[Myrrh]

I have an etiquette question for these AO clubs (really all FKK clubs).

When you are on the couches with a girl at at point are you committed to going to a room with her? Meaning if you sit down and start kissing and you don't like how they kiss can you get up and leave? Or if it progresses to them giving you a BBBJ and you don't like their technique can you get up and walk away?It seems like you have been visiting FKK clubs like Arabella since at least the start of this year and got along OK by your account.

What did your previous visits and conversations with the girls tell you about the required etiquette?


My last trip to the area I went to Arabella and got by fine. Are all the clubs in the area the same?
I have visited Arabella in the past and had a blast.

I got by pretty good only speaking English when I first visited Arabella, seemed most of the girls spoke some English.

[Hessen Bub]

I have an etiquette question for these AO clubs (really all FKK clubs).

When you are on the couches with a girl at at point are you committed to going to a room with her? Meaning if you sit down and start kissing and you don't like how they kiss can you get up and leave? Or if it progresses to them giving you a BBBJ and you don't like their technique can you get up and walk away?At any club I'd recommend NOT to kiss a girl or let her suck your dick if you don't want to book her.

HB.

[Member #4460]

My goal is to do as many as I can.

Day 1 - Club Laluna.

Budgeting my money so I only picked 2. Evelyn and Angela.

I liked Evelyn the best with her puffy nipples and her being able to creampie my cum on me. Spent 140€ total (admissions plus 2 girls).

Food- Candy, cake, cookies, drinks, fruit, no sandwiches!

Day 2 - Grimberg.

Spent 330€ (admissions plus 10 girls) for the day.

Kathi, Alina (or Elena (SP? Simona, Amelia, Angie (only did her because she was nice and friendly), and a few I can't remember their names.

"Surprise" inspection from some German cop posing as an America (oh, come on! At least get the accent right!) so everyone was a little cautious.

Food. Sandwiches, soup (vegetable), fruit, bread (rolls), and drinks.

Day 3 - Romantika.

Did all the girls (even the ugly one (Sally) because there were 7 girls.

Madelina, Jocelyn, Mikaela, Alina, Micky, Sissi, and Sally. Mikaela was new but shy. I only.

Did Sally because Sissi was with her.

Food. Sandwiches, fruit, candy, hard boiled eggs, cake, and drinks.

Day 4 - Arabella.

Ten girls available but I did 1/2 of that.

Diana, Sabrina, Gaby, Sonja, Diandra, Tina, and Karina (I think I saw her in Freude a few months ago).

Food. Sandwiches, fruit, candy, and drinks.

Day 5 - Anabella.

No toilet (except in the rooms). I warmed up to the TF because she seemed to not trust me at first. Price 110€ for 3 girls.

I had Deea, Rebecca, and Brenda. First time here but I'll come back again on my next trip.

Food. Sandwiches, fruit, candy, hard boiled eggs, cake, and drinks.

Day 6 - Dietzenbach.

I'll post on Dietzenbach's thread tomorrow.

[Member #4460]

What happened to my 6 day trip I just posted?

Oh well! I had a great time in Arabella, Anabella, Grimberg, Romantika, Dietzenbach, and Laluna!

I'm doing as much as I can before the new laws takes effect!

I must have missed Aida in Arabella but as I was coming in, before 11:00 am, a girl who looked just like her was leaving. I wonder if she was assigned to go elsewhere or not work that day for being late?

I usually stay at a place longer and take more girls if the place has enough food to keep my stomach from being empty! That's why I like Grimberg, Romantika, and Dietzenbach the best (the food may not be the best but at least I could have something to eat while getting my energy back up for the next girl! In return, I go for as many sessions with the girls at those places as humanly possible!

That and (of course) how the girls look.

[Optimist]

WanderingGroo, thanks for the report. Your stamina is astonishing!

[Myrrh]

I usually stay at a place longer and take more girls if the place has enough food to keep my stomach from being empty! That's why I like Grimberg, Romantika, and Dietzenbach the best (the food may not be the best but at least I could have something to eat while getting my energy back up for the next girl!
Day 4 - Arabella.

Food. Sandwiches, fruit, candy, and drinks.Anyone turning up at FKK's like Arabella and expecting to have lots of proper food is going to be sorely disappointed.

On a few trips to Arabella I have only ever seen sandwiches once. In fact there were three of them. Consisting of 3 tiny triangles of wafer thin white processed bread with a thin slice of processed cheese between them. The processed cheese had congealed as it had been left out for so long.

Unfortunately the staple diet at places like Arabella typically consists of about 4 hard boiled eggs, cold, in their shells. Half a dozen tiny, weiner sausages and the skin of these sausages tastes like cartilage. 4 rock hard green apples. Half a dozen tiny cakes about 2 cm square. That's it! That is all the food that there is to sustain about 30 to 40 or more customers passing through during the day. This 'food' is left on a circular tray about 20 cms in diameter for up to 12 hours, where it remains largely untouched because it is so unappetizing.

There are no alcoholic drinks. In fact it's forbidden.

Don't be fooled into conjuring up images of thick cut sandwiches filled with different kinds of meats or cheeses with lots of salad and garnishes. Plus maybe a fruit bowl with an assortment of different kinds of fruits to choose. Totally not the case.

If you want proper food to sustain you for a stay of more than 3 hours then go to a proper FKK or to Freude. Otherwise bring your own if you decide to go to one of these RTCs.

[Member #4460]

Anyone turning up at FKK's like Arabella and expecting to have lots of proper food is going to be sorely disappointed.

On a few trips to Arabella I have only ever seen sandwiches once. In fact there were three of them. Consisting of 3 tiny triangles of wafer thin white processed bread with a thin slice of processed cheese between them. The processed cheese had congealed as it had been left out for so long.

Unfortunately the staple diet at places like Arabella typically consists of about 4 hard boiled eggs, cold, in their shells. Half a dozen tiny, weiner sausages and the skin of these sausages tastes like cartilage. 4 rock hard green apples. Half a dozen tiny cakes about 2 cm square. That's it! That is all the food that there is to sustain about 30 to 40 or more customers passing through during the day. This 'food' is left on a circular tray about 20 cms in diameter for up to 12 hours, where it remains largely untouched because it is so unappetizing.

There are no alcoholic drinks. In fact it's forbidden.

Don't be fooled into conjuring up images of thick cut sandwiches filled with different kinds of meats or cheeses with lots of salad and garnishes. Plus maybe a fruit bowl with an assortment of different kinds of fruits to choose. Totally not the case.

If you want proper food to sustain you for a stay of more than 3 hours then go to a proper FKK or to Freude. Otherwise bring your own if you decide to go to one of these RTCs.And that's why I don't stay the whole day at Arabella! I have a big breakfast before going in and have whatever they got. Afterwards, I have a good dinner. There are a few restaurants I mapped out on the GPS that are a few minutes away so I make the best out of the situation as much as I can!

[Optimist]

Myrrh is right. If you go to one of these clubs (and also La Luna) take your own food. I usually stop of at a supermarket first and get my day's food. Otherwise I have to leave the club because of hunger (although to be fair at la Luna they do offer to make up sandwiches just for me, but I decline as I have some odd dietary requirements).

At Villa Venus I remember being starving and watching the girls go off to eat. At Grimberg there are huge periods with absolutely nothing to eat, with just some periodic rolls etc. which like in Arabella tend to sit around until they die. All these clubs (apart from LL) are not within walking distance of fast food outlets, although there is a small imbiss type place next to Villa Venus.

As Myrrh says Freude is different.

[Jerem]

In April I had to go to Belgium for a couple of days and on Sunday I did a quick trip to Duisburg.

Arrived at VV around 18.00 after a 5 hour drive.

Door opened by a naked girl and after paying the 60 e entry fee she showed me around.

Took a shower downstairs and came back to the ground floor. Took a coffee and got seated to take some rest and have a look at the girls.

Quite nice to see them walk around naked. Was my first time in a German club and liked it.

There were more women than girls and I finally got a seat next to Maria a Romanian next door girl. Started some kissing followed by a blowjob.

After some time I said summer and we went to the room.

By the way the rooms are huge with big beds.

After some kissing we did some fucking in different positions. Once I came some more talking but with my limited German that did not last very long.

Went back for a shower followed with some soda.

After some rest I went to another next door girl with huge DD boobs. I think Michaela. Same as before re some kissing and blowjob before going to the room.

The sooner more missing followed with an anal ride. After some more small talk and before going to the shower 30 e for the lady.

Then I had to take some rest. Not a lot to do excel t looking at the girls.

Was thinking to leave when I saw a pretty slim girl with small tits. She was busy with another customer so I had to wait.

When she finally came back went to the coach. Big smile from her to welcome me followed with a good kissing session.

I was afraid that after the 2 sessions plus the 5 hour drive I would have some issue but her blowjob was great an my stuff was hard as it should be.

I asked to come on mes while I was sitting and she put my stuff in her wet pussy while kissing me.

After some public show we went to the room and it was just great.

To recap 3 sessions and when I left I knew I would come back for a longer time.

[Jerem]

As you have seen in my previous report I my stay at VV was nice and I'm going back in 2 weeks but this time I will stay 2 days.

I intend to go to Laluna the first afternoon and then Arabella or Venus in the evening as well as the second day.

I have seen from the pictures of LL that the girls are gorgeous. I like the small type as I am not that big with the pretty small tits.

I hope to see Miruna and then Kathi or Evelyn who are both my style. Plan to do 2 sessions.

Do you know if those girls do anal?

Also in VV once you come it is game over and the show ends.

If I go in LL with a girl for one hour she allows you to come 2 or 3 times.

Thanks for your answers.

For the evening would you advice VV or Arabella?

Last question (sorry) is it possible to have one of the girls for the night at the hotel from one of those 3 clubs?

Thanks for your responses.

[Marine One]

My goal is to do as many as I can.

Day 2 - Grimberg.

Spent 330 (admissions plus 10 girls) for the day.

Kathi, Alina (or Elena (SP? Simona, Amelia, Angie (only did her because she was nice and friendly), and a few I can't remember their names.

"Surprise" inspection from some German cop posing as an America (oh, come on! At least get the accent right!) so everyone was a little cautious...You did 10 girls in one day? How many girls were working that day -- I assume there was a good line up to motivate you to such numbers?

Also. What did this cop want. Do you think this was about seeing if AO was happening?

Interesting post, thanks for the info!

[Marine One]

Oh well! I had a great time in Arabella, Anabella, Grimberg, Romantika, Dietzenbach, and Laluna!

I go for as many sessions with the girls at those places as humanly possible!

That and (of course) how the girls look.Generally speaking, how would you compare the line ups of these places? My tastes are toward thin girls and I noticed a lot of fat ones at Dietz in April, but I have no clue about the rest of the clubs you mentioned or VV.

[Optimist]

Miruna and Kathi at LL do not do anal.

By the way there is a dedicated thread for LL http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3418-AO-Club-La-Luna-Moers&p=1733582&viewfull=1

My experience with Kathi and others is that once you have come you can just continue straight on again with no break at all. Having said that I usually need a break, and sometimes in a long session the workers are very happy to have a break if you offer. Very different to other clubs where as you say, once you have come the session often finishes very quickly

The LL pictures give a slightly flattering picture, but generally the girls are nice looking (although I prefer the gazelle shape ideally)

I tried a takeout at LL but the Theke Frau didn't allow, I guess because there are too few girls there to allow losing the most popular ones for a day.

I think your last girl at VV might have been very slim, pale, Larissa

[Myrrh]

Door opened by a naked girl and after paying the 60 e entry fee she showed me around.

After some rest I went to another next door girl with huge DD boobs. I think Michaela. Same as before re some kissing and blowjob before going to the room.

The sooner more missing followed with an anal ride. After some more small talk and before going to the shower 30 e for the lady.

Was thinking to leave when I saw a pretty slim girl with small tits. She was busy with another customer so I had to wait.

I asked to come on mes while I was sitting and she put my stuff in her wet pussy while kissing me.Thanks for the report Jerem which is appreciated.

However can you provide more details on the following?

1. The 60 e fee must surely be 30 e for entry itself plus 30 e prepaid session for one of the girls?

2. Was cum in pussy allowed with any / all of the girls?

3. Was unprotected anal and even cum in ass (CIA) allowed with the big boob girl (Michaela)?

4. Did the girl only allow a small amount of unprotected full sex on the couch before asking to go to the room? I ask because most of these clubs are not allowing any public display of unprotected sex in the lead up the law banning the performance of this with prostitutes which comes into force in January.

5. It would be great if you could confirm the 'pretty' girls name as previous reports about VV seemed to suggest that there are hardly any good looking girls there.


Miruna and Kathi at LL do not do anal.
I tried a takeout at LL but the Theke Frau didn't allow, I guess because there are too few girls there to allow losing the most popular ones for a day.
I think your last girl at VV might have been very slim, pale, Larissa1. Do the girls that allow anal allow this to be unprotected and for the customer to finish in their ass?

2. Is anal allowed at a further surcharge? The website only states that GVO (AO full sex?) attracts a surcharge but does not mention that anal or AV is one of the services that the girls provide. I know that with the former La Luna and Angelique clubs there were official extra charges for anal and cum in pussy (CIP) and so on. So is 60 euros the maximum that you will pay for an AO 30 minute session and if the girl allows anal, CIP or CIA then this is all included within that price?

3. I believe Jerem was referring to take out of a girl overnight when she has finished her on duty hours at LL. If the girls are independent contractors and have completed their agreed hours for the day then I don't see what thekefrau can do to stop her going with a customer as long as she reports back for duty by 11 am the next day. But as the girls can work from 14 to 16 hours a day when the club is open then I am not sure what level of service they could provide afterwards when they are tired and need to sleep. Or what they would charge for an overnight session as they can earn 60 euros for every 30 minute session whilst in the club.

I know that when I half-heartedly mentioned taking one of the girls overnight to thekefrau at one of these clubs that thekefrau shrugged her shoulders as if to say 'what's that got to do with me if the girls have finished for the day'. A couple of girls I mentioned it to seemed genuinely keen immediately asking how much I was willing to pay, for example 200 or 300 euros. I had already come a few times that day and needed to sleep myself so I think they saw the opportunity for an easy payday (or night).

[Jerem]

Thanks for the report Jerem which is appreciated.

However can you provide more details on the following?

1. The 60 e fee must surely be 30 e for entry itself plus 30 e prepaid session for one of the girls?

2. Was cum in pussy allowed with any / all of the girls?

3. Was unprotected anal and even cum in ass (CIA) allowed with the big boob girl (Michaela)?

4. Did the girl only allow a small amount of unprotected full sex on the couch before asking to go to the room? I ask because most of these clubs are not allowing any public display of unprotected sex in the lead up the law banning the performance of this with prostitutes which comes into force in January.

5. It would be great if you could confirm the 'pretty' girls name as previous reports about VV seemed to suggest that there are hardly any good looking girls there..1. The 60 e includes the entry and for the first session with the first girl.

2. My anal session was protected and did not try the unprotected option.

3. Yes Larissa was the pretty girl.

For me some of the other girls are pretty too but this is a personal taste.

4. For me if the girl is willing to do anal no surcharge is included.

5. For the AO session on the coach I asked to go to the room as I know that once you come the session is over.

Would you advice to go to Arabella or VV for the evening.

No too crowded? I m looking for a place with lot of couch action?

Also would love a trio so not sure what the best place is?

[Optimist]

Myrrh. I have always found CIP and CIA to be included in the price at the clubs like VV Arabella etc. At LL I dont think any girl does anal but CIP is included. Hope that helps.

What you say about takeout is correct and should be possible if you find the right girl. About LL you are right in theory, but in practice I found that the girl was not willing to go without the Theke Frau being happy.

[Optimist]

Maxime, picking up your comment in the LL thread. Are any of the girls at Freude who do anal AO reasonably attractive? My normal long stop for this is Angie at Grimberg.

[Member #4460]

You did 10 girls in one day? How many girls were working that day -- I assume there was a good line up to motivate you to such numbers?

Also. What did this cop want. Do you think this was about seeing if AO was happening?

Interesting post, thanks for the info!I believe there were 15 girls at Grimberg that day but I repeated Kathi, Alina, and Simona. There was another Romanian girl in Kathi's group of friends (the skinny girl, not the chubby one) that I wanted to do but she was always busy.

Some of the girls (at first) were thinking I was the undercover cop posing as an American but found out I really AM an American! Angie, who knew me from last visit, vouched for me so everything was okay! I ended telling my life story to a few girls who asked.

So about 9:10 pm, this tall blonde guy with a crew cut came in with a light jacket (black) and something covering his left shoulder (like white tape) asking in English (cross between a British and German accent), "Is this Alles Ohne? Do your girls fuck without condom?

And the manager said, "No. Condom sex only. " and then he left. Afterwards, everyone was in a better mood.

As for how the girls looked in the clubs, I am quite picky in terms of looks and prefer skinny over chubby (but I have been with chubby girls as a "pity fuck") but overall, these girls look good with only a few chubbys here and there.

Club LaLuna - 4 of the 6 girls are slim with 2 chubby (but not obese).

Grimberg - 10 of the 15 girls are slim but a few butter faces among the slim. I always go with Kathi because she's one of the prettiest there.

Romantika - 6 of the 7 girls are slim but Sally is the chubby one.

Arabella. There were 10 girls that day and no chubby (well maybe one slightly chubby but okay). One or two I noticed from Freude 39 (like Karina, whom I had in F39 last time).

Anabella - 6 girls, all slim but 3 of the 6 look decent.

Dietzenbach - 21 girls, 5 were chubby but I completely ignored them and focused on the rest. Girls like Alice, Nadine, Vanessa, and Anna (there are other pretty ones but I can't remember all of their names) make the trip worthwhile! They're usually the busiest but there are times in the day that you see them on the couch (when the men are usually eating or trying to replenish after a session).

Villa Venus. About 17 - 20 girls the last time I went. Only 3 chubby of that bunch. I skipped this place on my recent trip to spend my time in Anabella instead. If I had an extra day, I would have come visit.

Same with Freude 39 but I was treated terribly there in my last visit due to my limited German language skills. I was even escorted (kicked) out by (Ugly) Betty for kissing Carmen (a Turkish girl) goodbye before heading out the door.

Any other places I missed, let me know the name (except M-Exclusiv Clubhaus, which was a former Chinese restaurant but converted but all chubby and ugly women) and I will try to include them in my next Germany trip!

If M-Exclusiv Clubhaus changes their line-up and start having slim, pretty girls, let me know and I'll make a cautious visit there.

[Vito Corleone]

Maxime, picking up your comment in the LL thread. Are any of the girls at Freude who do anal AO reasonably attractive? My normal long stop for this is Angie at Grimberg.Anastasia Bulgarian short light brown hair. Fake rack. Decent looking especially for an AO club. She also worked at Grimberg (before the bolt ONS). Erika also Bulgarian looks about as bad as Angie. Different body but just as not attractive as Angie.

On a different note the 30 min timers in the rooms were new. Raissa would have hated it!

[Vito Corleone]

I believe there were 15 girls at Grimberg that day but I repeated Kathi, Alina, and Simona. There was another Romanian girl in Kathi's group of friends (the skinny girl, not the chubby one) that I wanted to do but she was always busy.

So about 9:10 pm, this tall blonde guy with a crew cut came in with a light jacket (black) and something covering his left shoulder (like white tape) asking in English (cross between a British and German accent), "Is this Alles Ohne? Do your girls fuck without condom?

And the manager said, "No. Condom sex only. " and then he left. Afterwards, everyone was in a better mood.
Girl at Grimberg is Lilly.

I was also at Grimberg recently & a suspicious looking guy walked in paid $60. Asking the girls if AO available & etc. Everyone including the clients figured this guy was undercover. After siting on the couches talking to 5-6 women he left.

[Downandup]

I was also at Grimberg recently & a suspicious looking guy walked in paid $60. Asking the girls if AO available & etc. Everyone including the clients figured this guy was undercover.Hmmm, so they are taking more care before the law starts in January? I'll be back in mid September for a tour of the AO clubs, FKK's etc. One thing I wanted to avoid was assuming a girl would do AO without asking beforehand, I made that mistake once at F35 but I was too nervous to discuss it even there. So this will make things harder but I guess that they will say yes if you are discreet enough?

I had a big list of the usual AO clubs to try and maybe Private Fantasien (same location as the old Fun Park) too if I hear anything good about it.

[Rohan Cid]

Since I won't be able to go to Germany for at least a couple of years, will my AO options be limited to the what I can fin in the AO clubs section or will I still be able to find some at Arabella and the other clubs?

[Wry Cooter]

Tried this place out during the day and found nothing all that great about either the lineup or the facilities. Hoped to meet Larissa who was recommended to me but I don't think she was there. Went to the room with Romanian Selina / Celena and found her to be a total rip off. Not much kissing and when I requested DS she flatly refused with a rather rude "Nein!" Left after a few hours, unimpressed.

[Jymondor]

Former Angelique / LaLuna girl Dea works there: http://www.love-saunaclub.de/girl/993/dea.

She is AO.

I am wondering is that club AO?

[Free Dude]

Former Angelique / LaLuna girl Dea works there: http://www.love-saunaclub.de/girl/993/dea.

She is AO.

I am wondering is that club AO?No it's not AO. It is related to the pauschalclub chain (where I last. Th Bochum one. Had a room with a very bored and disinterested Dea). Many RTC girls have spent some time in the pauschal chain, when they do they typically do not provide AO. Although I'm sure some regulars might be able to get it.

[PussyLiccker]

Former Angelique / LaLuna girl Dea works there: http://www.love-saunaclub.de/girl/993/dea.

She is AO.

I am wondering is that club AO?Nicole looks pretty. I would visit just to see her. http://www.love-saunaclub.de/girl/1486/nicole.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Hi WG,

I was wondering if you had picked up any STDs after your forays inn the AO ckubs. I went in April to Freude 39 and Grimsberg and got Orchitis (inflamation of the testicles). I am planning to go at the end of this week and was hoping the problem had cleared up. I tried to PM you about this but you don't have PM priviledges. Pllease PM me if you don't want to respond on the forum. Thanks.

JB.

[Christian G]

I tried to PM you about this but you don't have PM priviledges. Pllease PM me if you don't want to respond on the forum. Thanks.

JB.If you can't PM him, I think he can't pm to you also. He don't have a PM privilege.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

If you can't PM him, I think he can't pm to you also. He don't have a PM privilege.I thought I read sometime ago that non-members can send PMs, just not receive them. Perhaps I am mistaken.

[Myrrh]

I was wondering if you had picked up any STDs after your forays inn the AO ckubs. I went in April to Freude 39 and Grimsberg and got Orchitis (inflamation of the testicles). Pllease PM me if you don't want to respond on the forum.Sorry to hear of your misfortune but if it is any consolation you are almost certainly not alone in picking up infections from your chosen past time.

Many / most (or should that be almost all?) will have picked up nasty along the way but this tends to be chronically under reported.

It spoils the machismo to admit any weaknesses or incidences of bad luck.

So guys report instead that they visited an AO club and splatter gunned the inside of the pussy's of half a dozen or so girls that happened to be there.

Woke the next day and repeated, but this time at a different club.

They have never picked up anything from this sort of activity over the years not even a sneeze.

[Optimist]

JimmyBoy. Good on you for reporting. As for me - not yet (last tested a month ago), but the day will come. Plenty of colds over the years though

[Jimmy Boy 99]

JimmyBoy. Good on you for reporting. As for me - not yet (last tested a month ago), but the day will come. Plenty of colds over the years thoughI should have reported it in April but I got so much flak from some posters, who said these things should not be posted, when I reported a previous infection, that I desisted. Perhaps it might have saved someone getting the same thing, although, hopefully, no one did.

[Optimist]

Reporting that sometimes there are infections is fine, but it is more difficult when someone reports on a specific place or person as they are not always correct in identifying the person transmitting the infection.

[Strikesfun]

Reporting on a specific board of an infection is wrong. It is a guess that this is related to this club.

Infections take days to surface, no one reports on all the places and activities that have taken place from the time in a specific location.

And this just gives agency and government administrations ammunition to shut places down.

[Myrrh]

No it's not AO. It is related to the pauschalclub chain (where I last. Th Bochum one. Had a room with a very bored and disinterested Dea). Many RTC girls have spent some time in the pauschal chain, when they do they typically do not provide AO. Although I'm sure some regulars might be able to get it.Looking at the 'preferences' listed for the girls I noted that 22 of the 33 girls there did Korperbesamung or body insemination. 7 of the 33 did not provide details of the services they provide.

These body insemination girls included Dea, who we know has taken litres of spunk inside her during her time at Clubs La Luna and Angelique and also Nicole.

Entrance is between 30 to 40 euros and it is 35 euros for 30 minutes.

I don't know if the 35 euros includes all of the services that the girls provide with no extra charge.

If it does then we may have found a very useful AO alternative to Club La Luna and the RTCs if you are looking for a place with attractive, young girls who also provide AO.

It is 20 euro entry and 60 euros for 30 minutes AO at La luna.

If you did 3 girls for 30 minutes AO at Love Sauna club it may only cost you a maximum of 40+(35 x3)= 145 euros. Whilst it would cost 20 + (60 x3) = 200 euros at La Luna. 55 euros more!

This is all based on my assumption that body insemination means what it really should mean which is CIP and also that the girls do not charge any extra for this.

Additionally there are only 12 girls at La Luna, 1 of whom is confirmed as AO lite and three who are on extended holiday.

This leaves only 8 girls potentially available for CIP whereas it seems that it is 22 at Love sauna club. Most of whom are young, slim and attractive.

What a choice!

[Myrrh]

I have copied the posts below dealing with infections in AO clubs generally to the AO club lounge.

Hopefully the discussion can be continued there rather than in this thread which should be specific only to NRW AO clubs.

[Free Dude]

It means cum on body. Not cum inside body. But if you think you know better, go ahead and go around asking the girls to fuck you bareback.

[Member #4460]

If you can't PM him, I think he can't pm to you also. He don't have a PM privilege.Sorry about the lack of response! I was rather busy these past couple of days!

No, I got tested and everything seems fine!

The only problem I had was in November when I had a urinary tract infection (could have been from bareback BJ from FKK or from the AOs) but that goes away in a week with antibiotics. It felt like peeing through a little straw but after it gets better, it's okay!

I didn't go to F39 last month because I wanted to give the other AOs a chance.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Went to VV last night. A waste of money. 10 girls available, 5 doable, two actually rather pretty with good bodies. Went with Lily, with whom I had been with several times. She remembered me and so I thought it would be a good time but she was after me to come in less than 15 minutes, complaining that it was too hot (which it was). I tried to do CIM to get the session over with but couldn't. After I ate dinner (which I brought), I was hoping to do one the two pretty ones but by the time I was ready, she had taken her stuff and disappeared. A girl went around about 10 PM saying that it was time for last sessions (even though it says they close at 12 AM). The other pretty one was being pestered by a customer she had been with and by the tiime he had left her alone, another guy beat me to her, so I went with Alana, Bulgarian, no English, nice tits. After less than 15 minutes there was a knock on the door, and Alana said time was over. I told her no way the time was over. I wrested another grudging 7-8 minutes of time from her, with her grumbling all the time, and tried to finish CIM but the mood had been killed. I don't recommend going there unless you can finish in 10-15 mnutes, and certainly do a session before 10 PM if you want to have a chance of getting your full 30 minutes.

[Hessen Bub]

It means cum on body. Not cum inside body. But if you think you know better, go ahead and go around asking the girls to fuck you bareback.Correct. Körperbesamung means COB (Come on body) and does by no means imply Bareback.

HB.

[Myrrh]

Correct. korperbesamung means COB (Come on body) and does by no means imply Bareback.I am happy to bow to your superior knowledge in this regard.

However korper translates in any on line translation tool as body and the literal translation of besamumg is insemination / pollination or fertilization.

It would be difficult to inseminate if you came on the body rather than inside it.

It is easy to see therefore why I was convinced that korperbesamung meant body insemination, literally, the same as it's literal translation.

[Rohan Cid]

Hello, anything new on these clubs or is it all on the AO club thread?

[Optimist]

I visited Grimberg and left after an hour. I really couldn't face going with any of the girls, even for 30 euros. They were all a bit misshapen for my taste. Maybe I wasn't in the mood and I couldn't face approaching the girls. The club layout is always hard to work as there is no flow. I followed up with a trip to La Luna where the optics and service levels are high.

[Downandup]

I visited Grimberg and left after an hour. I really couldn't face going with any of the girls, even for 30 euros. They were all a bit misshapen for my taste. Maybe I wasn't in the mood and I couldn't face approaching the girls. The club layout is always hard to work as there is no flow. I followed up with a trip to La Luna where the optics and service levels are high.Isn't Grimberg one of those clubs that you have to choose and pay for your sessions as you walk in the door?

Maybe I should go back to freude 39?

[Optimist]

Entry includes one session, so you pay 60 on entry.

[Downandup]

Despite what was said by Optimist, I decided to take a chance and was happy with the way it turned out. I almost turned around and went to Freude 39 what with the nonsense I had to deal with on the roads around there but I kept going.

The outcome was quite satisfactory, sure none of the girls there would be stars in an FKK but a few of the 10 girls working had the potential of working in a Saunaclub. In fact they could have replaced the dogs at Sky Saunaclub. I would not touch three of them but the other seven were plain or better.

[Optimist]

DownanUp. Glad you realised that any report is only one persons view on a particular day. There's no substitute for checking places out yourself, unless there is overwhelming negative reporting. Glad it worked well.

[Usel1]

This club http://www.fkk-annabella.de is second closest AO club to FRA. Are there any reviews? How it compared to Dietzenbach?I don't know if is AO or not.

In Freiercafè, AO is banned to talk about.

[OneSeventy]

Well folks, I definitely had my fun at LaLuna. But I think I would like to try another club too.

So this Grimberg, Villa Venus, Arabella are all AO (at least under the table)?

What club would you think should be my next stop?

And how pretty are the girls working there (should be max 30 ish)? I've read about this Lilly from Grimberg for ex, does she do AO?

I'm actually more looking for 60, maybe 90 mins sessions with one girl. What would you recommend?

Thanks!

[Vito Corleone]

So this Grimberg, Villa Venus, Arabella are all AO (at least under the table)?

And how pretty are the girls working there (should be max 30 ish)? I've read about this Lilly from Grimberg for ex, does she do AO?

Thanks!Yes & yes. You should be able to find what you want at all 3 clubs.

[MonkeyGin]

Never been in an AO club, but humbly doing my research.

I've spent many long hours in Brazil Termas however and the refractory period after you've shagged one gal and waiting to get the energy for the next one can be quite dull.

I tend to come early and stay late, and I monger alone.

In Brazil there is at least a bar in most terma you can cozy up to and get sloshed and in a few I bring my mini-iPad so I can do some writing (my trade).

I've always put a piece of electrical tape over the two cameras and admit I've had to show it a few times so they know I'm not trying to sneak perv pics. But it does help pass the time whilst checking out the girls walking around.

I take it that at most AO and FKK clubs there isn't alcohol?

Can you bring your own flask or is it strictly forbidden?

Can you sit on the couch, outdoors, or in common areas with your device (mobile, tablet) or is that forbidden as well?

Other newbie questions:

At most FKK or AO clubs I assume you walk in, pay your fee to a desk, are shown a locker room and they either give you a robe or a towel and bungee key?

- Are locks provided / is it safe to keep significant euro in the lockers?

- Do most guys walk around in robes or in towels or will you stand out if you're not walking around naked? I've never been accused of being very handsome so I prefer at least the modesty of a towel until the action starts.

I'll be going over the Christmas season, I assume things will be slow, but still some action to be had?

Looking to book the Ibis Gelsenkirchen for my stay, is this a reasonably placed hotel to get to the venues via taxi?

I have a small fetish for German streetwalkers. Are there any in the neighborhood of the clubs?

Thanks

[Christian G]

1) I take it that at most AO and FKK clubs there isn't alcohol?

2) Can you bring your own flask or is it strictly forbidden?

3) Can you sit on the couch, outdoors, or in common areas with your device (mobile, tablet) or is that forbidden as well?

Other newbie questions:

At most FKK or AO clubs I assume you walk in, pay your fee to a desk, are shown a locker room and they either give you a robe or a towel and bungee key?

- Are locks provided / is it safe to keep significant euro in the lockers?

- Do most guys walk around in robes or in towels or will you stand out if you're not walking around naked? I've never been accused of being very handsome so I prefer at least the modesty of a towel until the action starts.

1) in RTC (ao club) you just have an automatic dispenser for water, coke, fanta and sprite.

2) and 3) In my previous visits at this clubs I never saw customer have their flask or using smarthphone or tablet in the lounge area.

You have a lockers for your dress and a small safetybox for your valuables near the reception.

In Grimberg, Arabella, Villa Venus, ecc. They give you a towel. I found a robe only at F39. Only the girls go around naked, not the customers.

[Vito Corleone]

Can you bring your own flask or is it strictly forbidden?

I have a small fetish for German streetwalkers. Are there any in the neighborhood of the clubs?.I've seen some guys take a sip from their flasks in the locker room. A few sips here & there shouldn't be a problem, but if you smell like a drunken sailor, the girls might complain to the reception or just flat out refuse to service you. After taking a sip next to your locker, I would drink a cup of soda right after to cover the smell or candy, mints & etc.

If you visit Venus in Duisburg, plenty of Germans working the RLD. The RLD in Duisburg is huge, but a lot of thigh killing stairs to walk up & down. Open 24/7. A couple bars, pizza, Turkish doner & the Bandidos headquarters!

[Jymondor]

2) and 3) In my previous visits at this clubs I never saw customer have their flask or using smarthphone or tablet in the lounge area.I always use my tablet in AO clubs becaue it is boring there between the rooms. I use 3g Internet access via blau.de.

LaLuna provides decent speed WiFi. Password available at the reception.

Newer put scotch over the camera lens. Nobody cares.

[Optimist]

Monkey gin, the best place for street walkers is in Berlin. Generally the street walking scene has been exterminated in Germany, with only some locations with very few girls in some towns. Bonn has a street scene after 20.00, Am Probsthof. If you see any in Dusseldorf be aware it is illegal and closely enforced. Neue Ritterstrasse and Diessemer Brucke in Krefeld have some after 22.00.

[Christian G]

I always use my tablet in AO clubs becaue it is boring there between the rooms. I use 3g Internet access via blau.de.

LaLuna provides decent speed WiFi. Password available at the reception.

Newer put scotch over the camera lens. Nobody cares.Good to know. In my previous visits I never saw a customer play with tablet but I'm not a frequent visitor.

[Sportsman]

LaLuna provides decent speed WiFi. Password available at the reception.Last time when I was in LaLuna, I asked for the password for the VIP section of the website. It didn't work when I tried it when I got back to the hotel. Now I think she probably gave me the password for the wifi instead.

[Sportsman]

One time my friend was playing with his cell phone at the main room of Arabella. A customer said to him he shouldn't be using the cell phone there, my friend should use it in the locker or near the entrance. I guess he was concerned about his privacy too.

[Optimist]

No problems using tablets or phone openly in La Luna.

[Neurosynth]

... Bonn has a street scene after 20.00, Am Probsthof. ...Am Probsthof is near the drive-in booths for car service. (Also near the Laufhaus). Is that where they want to bring you, or is this independent of that?

[Optimist]

Am Probsthof is near the drive-in booths for car service. (Also near the Laufhaus). Is that where they want to bring you, or is this independent of that?Generally you'll end up in the car booths, but my info is a bit outdated as I haven't been for about three years.

[Neurosynth]

Generally you'll end up in the car booths, but my info is a bit outdated as I haven't been for about three years.Aha, OK then. I don't think the relatively new booths were in place that long ago. Not sure actually. But it's all within the same general area, so anyone with a car need only drive past the laufhaus and nearby streets and spot the girls.

[Member #4460]

I don't know if is AO or not.

In Freiercaf, AO is banned to talk about.I went to Anabella at the beginning of June. It's AO but unfortunately, I can't really give a fair review of the quality of women because I went on Sunday (I got there Saturday night but they were closing but I saw two pretty girls that I didn't see the next day)!

So on Sunday, there were 6 girls with 3 that were doable. Almost everyone went for the blonde (name escapes me at the moment. It's either Dea or Gina). Spent 110 on 3 girls and then left in the afternoon.

[Neurosynth]

I went to Anabella at the beginning of June. ... Almost everyone went for the blonde (name escapes me at the moment. It's either Dea or Gina).As of late spring Dea was a very popular girl there who had recently dyed her hair blonde. The only one there at the time with blonde hair, so I'm guessing that's who you mean.

[Member #4460]

Day 1 - Saturday. Anabella.

Had Deea (now dark haired and not blonde), Julia, Bianca, Lara, Nicole, and Arabella (that's her name on the picture). No complaints because their restroom is now fixed and I took as much time as I wanted.

Line-up is about 8 girls that day. 40 per session.

Day 2 - Sunday. Went to Acapulco.

30 admissions before 1 pm, 40 per session.

Had Vivian, Anna Linda, Hanna (blonde), Rosa, and Judy. Vivian was very honest! I thought she left with my 50 but I found 10 in my money locker later!

Day 3 - Monday. Grimberg.

30 admissions, 30 per session.

Had Simona (looked bored), Andrea, Emilia, and Lily. Kind of disappointed Kathi wasn't there but made the best out of the day.

Line-up is about 10 girls.

Day 4 - Tuesday. Arabella.

30 admissions, 30 per session. Had Alexandra, Alice, Alina, Sabrina, and Sarah. I did couch action with Sarah but it lead to a gang bang when another guy joined in. Felt weird when he was feeling my balls as I'm doing Sarah doggie style so I just finished up in her quickly and sat out the rest of the session!

Line-up is about 7 girls (not counting Michelle, the older woman).

Day 5 - Wednesday. Romantika.

Disappointed in the line-up so I didn't do the whole house! 30 admissions, 30 per session.

Had Stephania, Jessie, and Sophia.

Line-up is about 8 girls in house.

Day 6 - Thursday. Freude 39.

Friendly environment this time! 40 per session and 15 before 12 pm entry.

Had Nadja, Meggi, Monica, Alexandra, April, Gabbie, and Emma.

Line-up is about 25 girls.

Day 7 - Friday. Bernd's.

50 admissions (Black Friday special), 50 per regular session.

Had Carmen, Nina, Mara (we worked out a special time in her busy schedule), and Maria.

What a big difference a year makes! I remember first seeing Maria as a timid dark haired girl and now she's playful and outgoing! She colored her hair lighter and lost a little bit of weight (but looks great! So nice, I had her twice!

Line-up is about 7 girls.

Day 8 and Day 9 - Saturday and Sunday. Dietzenbach.

40 admissions, 30 per session.

Had Alice, Alina, Sarah, Anna, Dana, Bianca, Nadine, and Maya on Saturday. On Sunday, I had 12 girls (just add 4 girls to the 8 previous I had on Saturday). Alice was only available before 12 pm so I had her at 10:30 am. Dani (tall Romanian) was there on Sunday but not Saturday.

The reason why I only had 8 on Saturday is because I didn't know the time (watch broke). I paced myself better the next day with a new watch!

Anna was warm and friendly to me as usual (no sarcasm). I gave all the girls a back massage after every session.

Line-up is about 24 girls (Saturday) and 18 girls (Sunday).

I have to give a warning about Lisa (blonde, with a slight gut) at Dietzenbach! She seems to be in a bad mood all of the time (rumor has it, she hates being transferred from Villa Venus to Dietzenbach) so she will turn down most people by saying she's on a break! Best to ignore her.

I went back home on Monday. Will try to fit in Villa Venus on my next trip but need to find a safe place to park my rental car and have easy access to a bus or train (so that my car doesn't get broken into again!

[Optimist]

WanderingGroo Thanks for the report. I am in awe of your stamina. Was your car broken into while you were inside one of the clubs?

[Member #4460]

WanderingGroo Thanks for the report. I am in awe of your stamina. Was your car broken into while you were inside one of the clubs?

Thanks! Not on this trip but the last time (a few months ago) I was at Villa Venus. I had nothing taken (because I had nothing but suitcases of clothing and a lousy GPS that kept shutting off) but it was a pain to drive all the way back to the airport and get another car! That's why if I plan my next trip, I'm going to have to find a place to park and then take public transportation to Villa Venus.

I was quite happy with this trip because everything went well according to my plans!

[Optimist]

There were quite a few car break ins a couple of years ago. It is a real drawback for visiting Villa Venus.

[Vito Corleone]

Great TR wanderer.

Your stamina in the back end of your long trips is impressive. After seeing you finish a session, shower & your hair is not yet dry but already on a couch with a girl ready for action.

Dietz.

Erika has been a sour puss since her days at Romantika 2 yrs ago. Doesn't seem to stay in any RTC club for long. Not sure what her problem is.

Venus.

I remember all the broken car glass everywhere 2 yrs ago.

Well, it seems like the girls ganged up on a certain girl & forced her hand. Oh well, I'm sure she'll reappear in the other clubs.

[DzGermany33]

From reading the forum, it seems all these clubs (Venus, Arabella, etc) are very similar. Is there anything that makes one better than another? Especially in regards to hygiene. No reports seem to really differentiate between the clubs in any way and it seems common for people to visit all three, often in one trip.

I ask because I'd like to visit one, but I'm new to the AO thing. I'd like to go to the best for AO-new people, if that makes sense. (Not new to FKKs in general, as you can see by my reports, but to AO yes.).

[Vito Corleone]

From reading the forum, it seems all these clubs (Venus, Arabella, etc) are very similar. Is there anything that makes one better than another? Especially in regards to hygiene. No reports seem to really differentiate between the clubs in any way and it seems common for people to visit all three, often in one trip.

I ask because I'd like to visit one, but I'm new to the AO thing. I'd like to go to the best for AO-new people, if that makes sense. (Not new to FKKs in general, as you can see by my reports, but to AO yes.).F39 has the largest Lu, but the AO / covered girls seem to change per hour. Since you're a newbie they might try to take advantage of you. I would avoid 39.

Best of the RTC clubs is Dietzenbach near Frankfurt. Large Lu with many cuties to choose from. If you're in the NRW Venus in Duisburg. If you're driving, do not leave anything visible in your car. The area is notorious for car break ins. Not even an empty plastic bag.

[Jymondor]

Best of the RTC clubs is Dietzenbach near Frankfurt. Large Lu with many cuties to choose from. If you're in the NRW Venus in Duisburg. I would say that LaLuna in Moers is the best AO club now. LU is small but decent. Service level is way above than in RTC. However you should pay more.

[ZfNuka]

How busy do you guys think these clubs will be around New Years? I'm assuming a lot of girls will be gone, but will they be worth a visit anyway?

[Vito Corleone]

I would say that LaLuna in Moers is the best AO club now. LU is small but decent. Service level is way above than in RTC. However you should pay more.It depends which girls you session with, but generally the LaLuna girls provide better overall service. You also have to pay 2-3 times more. If you stay in the room for 35 min at LaLuna going to cost you 90€. Only 30€ at rtc. Even if you stay 40 min still 30€ in rtc. Still not sure about the 20€ extra for cip at LaLuna.

I've had my issues with Lisa since her days at Angelique all inclusive days. She's tried to cheat me on room times twice since she's moved back to LaLuna. I'm not talking about going over time by 5 minutes & expecting Lisa to look the other way. When spending multiple hours & rooms she tends to over charge by hours. I keep track with my own watch & I make it clear when the session is over by walking to the reception letting Lisa know session is done.

This guy is not a newbie to FKK's but I can see Lisa trying to take advantage of this new guy. I've known Lisa for close to 8-9 yrs since she was a working girl in the old LaLuna days & she still tries to pull off this time keeping BS!

[Myrrh]

Some guys require a sick bucket before they are able to look at the women in Dietzenbach whereas others will travel great distances, even halfway round the world, just to do them. It's the old truth that one man's trash is another man's treasure.


16 girls worked this Monday, but the LU was horrible. The only good things with this club are the low prices (40 EUR entrance, 30 EUR per girl), all extras are included (if the girl perform the extra), and that the girls aren't allowed to hunt guys.

Will not come back to the club


19 women were present (according to the number of pictures at the reception counter). The worst line-up I have ever seen in any club (except M-Exclusiv); most of the women ranging from just unfuckable to horrific. Most I wouldn't fuck for free, and some of them would have had to pay me to fuck them.

I walked around and sat for an hour and a half, looking at the women, trying to will myself to fuck one of them, but couldn't do it.

For those of you who have gone here and actually fucked these women, my hat is off to you. You have much stronger stomachs than I do.Clearly some guys have way lower standards, in terms of what is decent, compared to others.

To my eyes I have not found much difference in the quality of the women at the different red carpet club type clubs (RTCs) not even at F39 and La Luna which are reputed to have better looking women.

F39 and La Luna charge more, 40 and 60 euros respectively for 30 minutes AO sex, compared to only 30 euros at other RTCs. That is the only significant difference that I can say.

Venus: Fairly large line up, a dozen or more, compared to smaller RTCs.

F39: Largest line up of them all. 20+ girls every day. LU changes very often so that on different visits you will keep seeing different women. However they are constantly changing their rules re prices, happy hour times, food and so on so best to check for any changes before you visit. Similarly I would check with each girl before you go with them because the more attractive ones may only offer covered sex or ask you to demonstrate your coitus interrupts skills. So the number of girls that genuinely offer full AO sex may actually be the same as other RTCs even though there are more girls working here.

Dietz: Large line up. Close to 18 girls every day. So there should in theory be lots of choice. However if you have refined tastes like JimmyBoy99 or Skeden80 then you will be puking into your towel when you see them up close up. They all have significant defects of one type or the other: either overweight or skin-and-bones, droopy tits, brutal faces, rotten teeth and so on. The line up does not vary much from day to day or even year on year. I keep seeing the same girls names from years ago appearing in posts on here again and again. One big problem with this place is that if like Jimmy or Skeden you decide to to a 180 and just turn around and walk out then there is no other RTC nearby. It's a 5 hours or more journey by public transport from Frankfurt to any of the other RTCs in NRW.

Life at Dietz is a lot less complicated than at F39. Apart from 4 girls who only ever offer covered sex (the other girls will tell you who they are and they are old, ugly or fat anyway so you don't need to worry about them) you can choose any girl and be confident that you can ride without any fear that there will be a tap on the shoulder when you are about to cum to remind you not to finish inside. It's a point-and-shoot place. You can just go up to a girl and start having sex with her on the spot, right then and there if you want.

La Luna: The girls here in terms of looks are not much better than the other clubs even though they charge twice as much for AO. Apart from the price the only main differences I find with other RTCs is that the choice is limited, typically only 8 girls, and pictures of the girls are published so you can 'in theory' see exactly what you are getting. Although not all of the women publish their photos and the ones that are published are heavily touched up and air brushed. Some do not publish photos at all and in the case of a couple that may be a blessing in disguise. The superior performance of these girls is a myth which helps to justify the higher prices.

[Neurosynth]

Club Globe in Leverkusen (near Cologne) is now in the RTC AO chain. It's cleaner and nicer than most, however, because it was previously a Partytreff club. But before getting too involved with a girl get verbal confirmation she is OK with AO. I was there recently and will probably go back the next chance I get.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3169-Club-Globe-Leverkusen

[Christian G]

Club Globe in Leverkusen (near Cologne) is now in the RTC AO chain.Price similar to the other RTC? Anal & CIM inluded? Thanks in advance.

[Rob1599]

Going to make my first trip to these AO clubs in January. Has anyone ever gotten an STD at these places? Are the women required to have checkups?

Thanks.

[All For Bb]

What "AO" stand for? Mean sex without using condom? Any problem or concerns on HIV or STD if "AO"?

Thanks for explain.

[Sirioja]

What "AO" stand for? Mean sex without using condom? Any problem or concerns on HIV or STD if "AO"?

Thanks for explain.Yes sex without condom, after many other men, but can ask your doctor, on FKK planet, HIV is only for others. When you leave AO club, you can jump from a bridge, you will fall on your legs like a cat. On autobahn in night, you can switch off lights, you will see like a cat. FKK are just magic, no disease for us, only for others = wives of AO FKK clients.

[Neurosynth]

Price similar to the other RTC? Anal & CIM inluded? Thanks in advance.Can't compare anal and CIM upcharges as it's not my thing. My impression is CIM is included. Some girls prefer it because it is easier physically. Price as of a few days ago was FREE admission, 1 girl = 50,2 girls = 70,3 girls = 90. But check online to confirm. I paid 90, went with a girl, and later a three way.

http://www.fkk-luderland.com/index.php/luderland-home.html

(It looks like entry is now 20 (19.99), 1/2/3 girls for 50/80/90)

[Neurosynth]

What "AO" stand for? Mean sex without using condom? Any problem or concerns on HIV or STD if "AO"?

Thanks for explain.


Going to make my first trip to these AO clubs in January. Has anyone ever gotten an STD at these places? Are the women required to have checkups?

Thanks.AO = Alles ohne. German for everything without.

The health related questions require very long answers if one wants to give a truly meaningful response. If you are risk averse is that really going to be overridden by something posted here? "I heard from someone who works there they are tested monthly. " How confident can you be in that statement? Even if true, how do you assess how much risk reduction that represents?

It is *very* unlikely a man will get AIDS from random unprotected sex with women. But non-fatal STDs are not as rare. But still mostly rare. HPV is probably a coin flip, but that rarely has any ill effect *for men*.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Going to make my first trip to these AO clubs in January. Has anyone ever gotten an STD at these places? Are the women required to have checkups?

Thanks.I've been to them on 6 or 7 trips to Germany. Twice I've gotten gonorrhea. Once an infection that swelled my dick to 2 to 3 times it's normal flaccid size (not a good thing because of the pain). You may be, and many are, luckier. In any case, I would recommend that you do your non-AO clubs first so as to not ruin the rest of your trip if you get something at the AO clubs, as I assume you will not continue to have sex (or at least have only covered sex and CBJ) so as to not infect the girls with whatever you have.

[UltraHappy]

Everyone is always talking about HIV but it surprises me that genital herpes is not mentioned more frequently as it is the other non-curable STD. It sounds pretty painful from the descriptions I've read. Yes, there is medication that can treat it and reduce the symptoms but it sounds pretty expensive and on top of that, some of the side effects of the medication don't sound all that great for those who suffer from them.

I didn't know gonorrhea caused dicks to swell so much. So far, I've never caught any STD and I always test clean with my periodic screening tests, but I always wear a condom during sex (100% of the time). Yes, I take BBBJs so maybe I will catch something one day, but that day has simply not arrived yet.

[All For Bb]

According to Charley Sheen's story, we know that HIV positive can be not a big problem now a day provided he follows an antiretroviral regimen. For HIV negative mongers, if use protective PrEP drugs, even ao with HIV positive pussies, no problem to get infect. But don't know how expensive these drugs caused.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I didn't know gonorrhea caused dicks to swell so much. So far, I've never caught any STD and I always test clean with my periodic screening tests, but I always wear a condom during sex (100% of the time). Yes, I take BBBJs so maybe I will catch something one day, but that day has simply not arrived yet.It doesn't. The third time I had Balanitis, a bacterial infection usually caused by poor hygiene (presumably of the girl who infected me, since I had been washing my dick at least 3-4 times a day at the clubs) and, rarely, by gonorrhea.

[Vito Corleone]

Everyone is always talking about HIV but it surprises me that genital herpes is not mentioned more frequently as it is the other non-curable STD. It sounds pretty painful from the descriptions I've read. Yes, there is medication that can treat it and reduce the symptoms but it sounds pretty expensive and on top of that, some of the side effects of the medication don't sound all that great for those who sufferYou can still get herpes from BJ, kissing & covered sex. Not talked about much & most people don't even know that they have it.

[EastGoing]

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3169-Club-Globe-Leverkusen&p=1817004&viewfull=1#post1817004.

In putting the link to my post, I would like once more to ask moderators to put all AO clubs in a single thread including F39, La Luna, Grimberg, etc. Maybe an exception could be made for Dolce Vita Raubach and Dietzenbach. It would be much easier to read and not necessary to look for. As scattered as the club threads are now, readers interested in the Topic risk to miss out the already too few posts.

P. S. When I visited there were some 13 girls, from Saturday another 5 from closed Romantika were supposed to join. I don't know if that meant that the number of girls would grow to around 20 or if some others would be reallocated.

[Myrrh]

In putting the link to my post, I would like once more to ask moderators to put all AO clubs in a single thread including F39, La Luna, Grimberg, etc.Two posts from you in as many days effectively doubling your post count for the year.


Your opinion about LaLuna and VV, and the related matters, really touched my heart (s'hole, if you get the joke, LOL!) and pushed me to break my press-silence. I stopped writing following the..

I know I'm going out of topic, but who cares, maybe my next post will be next year.

All the best to everyoneLooks like you miss us a little bit more than you at first made out.

[Myrrh]

You can still get herpes from BJ, kissing & covered sex. Not talked about much & most people don't even know that they have it.Absolutely correct. You can get everything from BJs that you can get from BBFS except the chances of catching the big H are so remote as to be non-existent. There is a significant chance with BBFS though no matter what anyone else on here tells you.

Herpes is transmitted by skin-to-skin contact even from groin area to groin area as this is not protected by a condom.

It lies dormant in most people. Some people have one or two outbreaks when they first catch it and then nothing for years even though they still have it. Others have periodic outbreaks sometimes as regularly as every couple of months for the rest of their lives although the violence of the outbreak and the frequency should diminish over the years. It is the luck of the draw.

A few months ago I noticed two sores on the groin of a very popular young lady at Dietzenbach when I was sat on the couch with her, can't remember her name but it begins with the letter A and rhymes with the word bliss. Needless to say I made my excuses right away.

It is very prevalent and it is estimated that a large proportion of the adults in the US have it although most don't know they have it.

By the time a working girl realises that she has it she normally has already been infectious for a few days so it is a little too late.

[Vito Corleone]

A few months ago I noticed two sores on the groin of a very popular young lady at Dietzenbach when I was sat on the couch with her, can't remember her name but it begins with the letter A and rhymes with the word bliss. Needless to say I made my excuses right away.I've been banging Miss Bliss for many years so I guess I'm still dormant. No wonder she's so moody. I just thought it was the other time of the month.

[UltraHappy]

You can still get herpes from BJ, kissing & covered sex. Not talked about much & most people don't even know that they have it.Well, the big H must not be that easy to catch if one always wears a condom during sex, because as my periodic screening tests show, I've never caught it yet and I regularly take BBBJs (and have been for years) but always use a condom during sex. I know that one person does not make for a robust clinical trial, but for me, it is quite persuasive nonetheless. And, just to be clear, my precautionary tests screened for both H1 and H2 and my tests always show that I have nothing.

Yes, I have read that stuff on the Internet that the big H can be caught from skin-to-skin contact, so I was pretty scared of this early on, but now I don't worry about this anymore. I think some of the information on the Internet that suggests how easy it is to catch things (even when wearing condoms) are merely scare tactics to scare the teenagers into abstinence.

[Vito Corleone]

Well, the big H must not be that easy to catch if one always wears a condom during sex, because as my periodic screening tests show, I've never caught it yet and I regularly take BBBJs (and have been for years) but always use a condom during sex. I know that one person does not make for a robust clinical trial, but for me, it is quite persuasive nonetheless. And, just to be clear, my precautionary tests screened for both H1 and H2 and my tests always show that I have nothing.

Yes, I have read that stuff on the Internet that the big H can be caught from skin-to-skin contact, so I was pretty scared of this early on, but now I don't worry about this anymore. I think some of the information on the Internet that suggests how easy it is to catch things (even when wearing condoms) are merely scare tactics to scare the teenagers into abstinence.I never mentioned the big H. Just herpes.

[Marine One]

Does anyone know how much it would cost to take a cab from the Duisburg HBF to VV? It looks like public transportation does not go near the club, and I won't be renting a car.

Thanks for any advice.

[Vito Corleone]

Does anyone know how much it would cost to take a cab from the Duisburg HBF to VV? It looks like public transportation does not go near the club, and I won't be renting a car.

Thanks for any advice.I always drive but I've heard you can take a train or maybe tram & I think a bus. Then walk a couple blocks.

[Optimist]

. If you look on bahn.de it will give you the route to the club's address. There are buses to the same road and then a walk. If you use the desktop version of the site and go to the detailed enquiry booking page you can enter the exact address in the destination search box and get the whole journey including the walking bit (On the mobile version and front page of desktop version it only gives station and stop option)

Taxis cost about 2 euro per kilometre.

[Delta Indigo]

To summarize, this place totally sucks. I would not recommend any venue like this. The rooms and facilities are okay, there are no alcoholic drink available and little food.

That is the least of concerns. I don't know what other similar venues are like, but the girls are atrociously ugly. In fact I struggled to find 3 that were doable.

One of them, Denisa was okay, the service is good, but the girls don't really do more than girls at other clubs where they are far more attractive. There was one token anal provider, Susie, and she went through with the anal. Denisa did offer non condom sex but I declined, so this is possible here.

But with the exception of Denisa the girls were horrible, when they told me they were 22 they looked 39. Horrible teeth and so on. I think almost all of them were from a destitute and impoverished background. I had a bad feeling there and the RTC chain is not for me.

I had to go to Samya later just to cleanse myself.

Once again, not recommended.

[Vito Corleone]

To summarize, this place totally sucks. I would not recommend any venue like this. The rooms and facilities are okay, there are no alcoholic drink available and little food.

That is the least of concerns. I don't know what other similar venues are like, but the girls are atrociously ugly. In fact I struggled to find 3 that were doable.

One of them, Denisa was okay, the service is good, but the girls don't really do more than girls at other clubs where they are far more attractive. There was one token anal provider, Susie, and she went through with the anal. Denisa did offer non condom sex but I declined, so this is possible here.

But with the exception of Denisa the girls were horrible, when they told me they were 22 they looked 39. Horrible teeth and so on. I think almost all of them were from a destitute and impoverished background. I had a bad feeling there and the RTC chain is not for me.

I had to go to Samya later just to cleanse myself.

Once again, not recommended.You can add this club to your boycott list.

[SwingerLover]

It could be that I'm mistaken here, but from what I've heard, I'm under the impression that Luderland and Samya are sister clubs. It would also be news to me that you could get AO at either of the two places, if so, your report would be in the wrong thread.

[Christian G]

It could be that I'm mistaken here, but from what I've heard, I'm under the impression that Luderland and Samya are sister clubs. It would also be news to me that you could get AO at either of the two places, if so, your report would be in the wrong thread.Read the report here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3169-Club-Globe-Leverkusen from others members and looking at their website http://fkk-luderland.com/index.php/luderland-home.html Luderland is another RTC same Grimberg, Arabella, V. Venus, ecc.

[Sirioja]

It could be that I'm mistaken here, but from what I've heard, I'm under the impression that Luderland and Samya are sister clubs. It would also be news to me that you could get AO at either of the two places, if so, your report would be in the wrong thread.Samya and Mondial are brothers, like GT and LR, Acapulco and Penelope, World and Mainhattan, Paradise Stuttgart and Sarrebrucken. Not AO clubs.

[Maxime]

Read the report here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3169-Club-Globe-Leverkusen from others members and looking at their website http://fkk-luderland.com/index.php/luderland-home.html Luderland is another RTC same Grimberg, Arabella, V. Venus, ecc.Indeed, Luederland is like Arabelle, Venus, etc, so a reguar RTC (=AO) club. Lineups are optically not always good, but if you want a RTC with better optics, better choose Freude39.

If you want good optics (but most of time lousy sex, but when you are lucky........) go to Samya (and Mondial, which are sister clubs indeed) :-)

[Neurosynth]

Does anyone know if Annabella is open?

[Vito Corleone]

Does anyone know if Annabella is open?I heard next week.

[Usel1]

Does anyone know if Annabella is open?The 12th January.

HH (10€).

10-13.

20.

[Neurosynth]

The 12th January.

HH (10).

10-13.

20.Thanks. But what does this all mean?

[Citizen Kane]

Thanks. But what does this all mean?At a guess;.

Happy hour 10 euros, 10 am - 1 pm. After that 20 euros.

But I've never been to any of these clubs so I don't know how accurate that is.

[Neurosynth]

At a guess;.

Happy hour 10 euros, 10 am - 1 pm. After that 20 euros.

But I've never been to any of these clubs so I don't know how accurate that is.Thanks, that sounds plausible.

[Neurosynth]

Thanks, that sounds plausible.But just to be sure I called. I asked if Annabella was open, and the woman who answered (with club sound in the background) said "Yes, we have girls!

An hour or so later I get there. And a big sign says all the girls are at Leverkusen and there are no signs of life.

Two hours on the train (s) wasted. Not to mention one million disappointed sperm.

So tomorrow I'll venture to Leverkusen. Trying to resist the temptation to go the Bonn laufhaus tonight. Because it sucks, and not in a good way.

Grrrrrr.

[Free Dude]

But just to be sure I called. I asked if Annabella was open, and the woman who answered (with club sound in the background) said "Yes, we have girls!

An hour or so later I get there. And a big sign says all the girls are at Leverkusen and there are no signs of life.

Two hours on the train (s) wasted. Not to mention one million disappointed sperm.

So tomorrow I'll venture to Leverkusen. Trying to resist the temptation to go the Bonn laufhaus tonight. Because it sucks, and not in a good way.

Grrrrrr.Always the case with RTC clubs: if they are closed, the phone number gets rerouted to one of the clubs that is open. So you probably got someone on the phone at Luderland or one of the other clubs. Always important to mention the name of the club specifically.

[Neurosynth]

Always important to mention the name of the club specifically.Well, I did. But I probably should have more than once. Grumble grumble.

[Myrrh]

Always the case with RTC clubs: if they are closed, the phone number gets rerouted to one of the clubs that is open. So you probably got someone on the phone at Luderland or one of the other clubs. Always important to mention the name of the club specifically.I phoned up FKK Arabella a couple of weeks ago and asked if they were open because I had heard that some of the NRW clubs were closed at the time. Like with what happened with NS there was music blaring in the background and the woman who answered said yes they were open. I then went over there only to find no response to the bell and a sign saying 'Alle girls sind in Bochum F39'.

So in order to avoid wasting time and the rest of the day I decided to take a taxi to F39 costing me almost 20 euros. I had never intended to go to that club again because of their recent big hike in girl prices.

F39 normally has 20+ girls on any given day so if the numbers were being swollen with girls from other clubs like Arabella then it was probably well worth a look. However when I went I found there were only 13 girls, so around half the normal numbers.

[Neurosynth]

Because Club Globe was converted to FKK Luderland, now an AO club, reports are showing up in two places.

They are here and here at http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3169-Club-Globe-Leverkusen.

[Neurosynth]

Went to FKK Luderland (formerly Globe) yesterday.

In terms of travel I was leaving from Bonn via train. Although Annabella in Hennef looks closer to Bonn than Luderland, via train and then walking they are about the same. Once you get to the Leverkusen-Opladen stop it's about a 25 minute walk. Using my iPhone GPS it was easy to get to. There *is* a taxi stand on the wrong side of the overpass you can see from the platform. I actually saw a taxi there, but someone else got to it first. After waiting 10 minutes to see if another would come along. Nope. And so the walk.

This time the cost was 25 E entry and 90 E for 3 sessions. Unlike some RTC club experiences I've had the girls at Luderland carefully gave a full 30 minutes per session.

First girl I went with was Christina. She's 22 years old, thin, with a pretty face, big beautiful eyes, and interesting boobs that are very soft and hang a bit, but are still shapely and offer big chewy nipples. She seems to have no limit as to how much or hard you can suck on them, seems to enjoy it, and will pinch her own nipples absentmindedly when they are otherwise unoccupied. I'd rate her a 7. 5 on a universal looks scale, which for an RTC is pretty darn good. The only problem. No English at all.

Before going to the room I whispered in her ear "alles ohne, ja?" and she seemed to understand and agree. But then after a masterful BBBJ she pulled out a condom! I stopped her and reminded her. She gave a look like "uh oh, now what?" and then somewhat reluctantly climbed on top of me and inserted me bareback. Within a few seconds any reluctance went away. I actually extended my time with her using 2 sessions.

Later I went with Selena after she more or less jumped on me in the couch area. She seemed fun, and even though she also spoke no English, we got a long fine. She wore more makeup than Christina with a more ethnic effect. She has a bit more meat on her than Christina, but is not fat. I was able to verify AO with my pigeon German, and she affirmed without hesitation. I'd rate her a 7. 0. She was quite good in the room. Maybe a bit too good because I didn't last very long!

Both Christina and Selena are happily recommended.

There were other girls there, some quite fat, others not so much so, the minority thin. Two of the thinner girls have died blond hair. I overheard a guy speaking in English saying that one of the blond girls was BBBJ but CFS only. He also noted that Dea (from Annabella, someone I had hoped would be there) was still away on vacation for Orthodox Christmas.

That's about it! If you find yourself south in the Bonn / Cologne area Luderland is a good alternative to the NRW clubs two hours away by car.

[Christian G]

19 Jan 2016.

Back in NRW! Yesterday I been in Villa Venus with a German mate (frequent visitor of RTC). We arrive there around 11:45 am, entry fee was 60 with one room included. Other room are 30 each, but you have to pay it in advance to the TF.

In the showcase only 6 pics, but in the club were 10/12 circa, also they have exposed photos of girls not present in the club. The line up was very low quality without AV girls (shame!), also the environment was off and the girls look boring and lazy. Have one nice lady, Antonia (I think, ex Andra in Villa Romantika) but she never smile, so I avoid to sit with her.

First room I took Lena / Lina, 33 yo from Bulgaria. Some FK on the couch and nice BBBJ. Move to the room, she gave a little oil massage on my cock & balls and start again with a BBBJ, first room of the trip are always very quickly for me due to too much horny LOL, so I ask for the condom and we start with cowgirl, but I don't have a time to change position because I had already finish, damn me!

After my usual long hot shower I looking for some food, but no sandwhich here, only apple and cookie, so eat somethings and thinking about next room. My friend suggest me Larissa, a skinny romanian. Ok I can try. Sat with her and start a little talk in english. FK and BBBJ on the couch than upstair to the room, we got a big room, so I sat on sofa and she kneel in front of me and re-start with a BBBJ, good skills. Ride me reverse cowgirl, than fuck her on sofa doggystyle. This time took me long time for shot my load, so I request a BBBJ with CIM.

Me and my buddy were both boring in the club, so around 3pm we leave for another club.

[Christian G]

19 Jan 2016.

After 30 min by car we arrive at Grimberg around 3:30 pm, here always 60e entry fee with 1 room included, other room are 30e each but here you don't have to pay in advance.

9 girls present: Miky (AV), Eva (AV but I had her once and she refuse to do it), Sissy (AV), Marina (AV, only in the pic), Kathy and other girls that I don't remember.

I'm always happy when I'm back to Grimberg because I always had a great service from Miky and Kathy. Pity that Miky gain too much weight!

After the shower I sat with them and start a long chit chat, and decided to have Kathy first and after make a anal threesome with Micky and Marina. Kathy is always great, DFK and great BBBJ skills on sofa. In the room she gave a long BBBJ than we start a passionate sex with alot of DFK and various positions, finish with a great CIM.

Much social time with my preferit girls and aet some sandwhich and cookie. When I was ready for the party I said to Micky what I want, so she called Marina and explain to her, she don't seems too much enthusiastic. Micky start to suck me on the couch while marina smoking a cigarette because she had just finish one room. Went to the zimmer alot of DFK and they gave me a BBBJ, Micky is always very good in the BBBJ department but Marina don't have a good skills, she is new of the business and she said that is only one week she work there. On the bed I want start with Marina's ass, so she lubed her hole, but it was super tight and I was very tired, I needed three attempts for enter in her ass (due to poor erection), but she can take only litte be so I decided to fuck her pussy doggystyle than move to Micky for fuck her ass till the end.

Back in the lounge, and my friend ask the girls for the menu of some restaurant and we ordered some take away food and had a dinner in the club.

Leave around 10:40 pm.

[Christian G]

20 Jan 2016.

Today I had a flight for back home in the late afternoon, so with my friend decided for this club because is only 24 km from Cologne airport.

Arrive for 11 am, that got a Happy Hour entry fee 10 euro. For the girls is 1 x40 - 2 x70 - 3 x90. And I choose a 90 euro package, but it was a bad choise because I didn't have much time.

The club is new and nice, with a big locker and very small safety box. No porn movie on tv (shame), the club seems recently renewed but I still prefer a old RTC for the pervert mood LOL.

11 girls: Selena (AV), Susie (AV), Dea, Anis, Maja, Shakira / Kira, Sarah, 2 blonde bulgarian from Romantika and others.

My buddy introduced me to Selena, she don't speak english, so he ask for me if she really make anal, at the beginning she said no no, but at the end she agree, so he left us alone on sofa, she ask me again for anal and said JA! DFK on sofa and very good BBBJ. In the room she tried to avoid to do anal, but I politely insisted and she took off a condom and lube, she was tight but after a few minutes I can fuck her hole deep LOL after around 10 min of ass fucking she asked me if I want cum in her mouth, deal. So condom off and very good BBBJ till I shot my sperm deep in her mouth.

Back downstair, the girls were busy and the line up isn't so good. Dea is sexy and the best looking girl in the club but she seems very lazy, never smile never give eye contact so I avoid her. I don't have much time and must to do 2 rooms, my friend suggest me to re-zimmer Selena, and it was a good idea.

Again DFK and BBBJ on the couch. In the room she kneel on the floor in front of me and I start to fuck her mouth and try for the deepthroat, condom on and I start to fuck her ass doggy till she asked me to fuck her pussy, we change some positions than she start to gave me a great BBBJ and ball licking, with my great surprise she also start to gave me a very good rimjob (withou I ask for this, but I always like), finish with CIM.

My time was near the end, so I must made my last room very quickly, my friend call Sarah for me and explain her that I want her and if she wait me 10/15 min I'll take her to the room before I leave the club. I took shower very quickly, back in the lounge and she was already busy, WTF! Ok, she lose one room. The problem was that I didn't know which girl take for the last room, at the end I sat near Kira and go directly to room with no talking and nothing, BBBJ was ok, normal FS change 2 positions and do my best for cum quick, useless room.

Finish the session, shower, dress up, said Hello, to my friend and Selena and leave the club. Some traffic due to work in progress and arrive at the airport in 30/40 min.

[Usel1]

ChristianG

In the showcase only 6 pics, but in the club were 10/12 circa, also they have exposed photos of girls not present in the club. The line up was very low quality without AV girls (shame!), also the environment was off and the girls look boring and lazy. Have one nice lady, Antonia (I think, ex Andra in Villa Romantika) but she never smile, so I avoid to sit with her.
[QUOTE]


we found 8 girls; most of them promised AV but , they did not justifiyng my mate was to large....
he's really large anyway, a promise is a promise...





[QUOTE]
After my usual long hot shower I looking for some food, but no sandwhich here, only apple and cookie.
[QUOTE]


you have to ask the "Tekefrau" and she make a sandwich
She speaks only German but is very kind...
unfortunately, she can can have only 3 ingredients: cheese, ham or bacon and a salt cucumber....
our country used us to better taste but we are abroad...
:-)



[QUOTE]
Larissa, a skinny romanian.

Me and my buddy were both boring in the club, so around 3pm we leave for another club.

Is Larissa lamp-sun-tanned?

Thanks for yr report.

[Vito Corleone]

Have one nice lady, Antonia (I think, ex Andra in Villa Romantika) but she never smile, so I avoid to sit with herAntonia does not smile, but opens up once you sit with her. Very sweet lady & provides very good service.

[SwingerLover]

.Next time you're 'formatting with quote', don't forget to put in the " before the word QUOTE where the quote ends. Then it will work properly.

[Free Dude]

Antonia does not smile, but opens up once you sit with her. Very sweet lady & provides very good service.True, she also seems to use us to pace herself. Earlier this month I had two rooms with her, but each time it took almost an hour before she was ready to go. Service was slow and sweet.

[EastGoing]

I'm so happy to read as many as 4 field reports, even if only from 2 different contributors, that I feel like adding few opinions and details.

As to making sure about which club we are phoning, each and every phone call, as far as I have noticed, is answered "Villa x (Romantika, Arabella, etc.) guten tag" or similar. I hear this when I am in clubs and also when I ring, so even if the call is transferred it should be clear where the theke is answering from. Maybe it was a matter of bad luck not to be answered the usual way.

Talking about the mentioned girls:

Neurosynth, on Sunday I was there too! I'm glad you can confirm to Myrrh that Luderland, like the other RTCs, is reachable with a bit of patience without a car, but I am sorry to tell you, as I had to do about last year's Loredana in F39, that I'm afraid you are not going to see Cristina anymore in that club. For the rest, out of the service, respecting tastes, I would lower your judgement about aspects. Seline lost a few kgs recently, but I would still rate her not even 6, or just a 6 if using an "unit of measure" adjusted to RTCs' (low) looks. Also Cristina, apart from the eyes, hasn't a good body. But they both are surely recommendable for the service.

As far as I know because I've been with both of them, both the blondes from Romantika (who are romanians, not bulgarians) work according to RTC guidelines. I wouldn't recommend Laura, while Jessica can be a sort of hit or miss. In Recklinghausen she had been a bad choice, in Leverkusen she was a good one, I took her because we discussed the previous room and cleared the matter.

The service of Kyra depends on the day you catch her, but I would say that her aspect is not her main quality.

I reckon Luderland's best looking girl is Sara from Verena. The title is, always in my opinion, restricted to her and Dea, who is as described by Christian G. It was quite hard to break the ice with her, I got a decent room, then in subsequent chats on the couches she came down a little bit from her throne on the clouds, but surely the enthusiasm of freiercafe's posts is excessive about her service and attitude. Worth noticing her facial expression after any room, which says it all even if you don't understand the comments she makes about the customer, sometimes spoken loud from the counter and hearable across the lounge. Perhaps she doesn't even realize the way she speaks, specially the tone of the voice, because that goes beyond languages. Anyway I will highly likely rezimmer her if met, since she seemed to start showing some (well hidden) sympathy.

Antonia was offering a good service when she started in Romantika last July, but already after 4-5 weeks she had already turned into a lazy cold fish who would get tired and bored easily in the room. Strange, considering that she was coming from a partytreff experience of about one month as first (so she declared) employment in the business. One good thing she gives, to anyone, is the unhurried very long couch time, even when she knows that there are customers waiting for her, she'll regardless stay too long on the couch. I started thinking it is just because she wants to postpone as much as possible the moment of going to the room, LOL! And possibly to get rid of the waiting customers, whoever they are, who will in the end go to another girl, LOL!

Leni or maybe Eleni or however might be called in freiercafe, IF she's the same girl, is an absolute disaster worth reporting to Barbara, if you don't mind (I did and so I apologize to the other fellas who will unluckily fall in the trap after me) getting her thrown out for as little as the 30 euros she stole you in exchange of approximately nothing apart from a long list of "nein", of moanings of pain anywhere you touch her outside and inside (the latter in case you manage to get and maybe even keep any part of your body inside of her body) and bulgarian insults. Christian must have unloaded in a Guinness Book time, LOL! Also, since, if I remember well, he heartily uses condoms, he probably didn't need to discuss about pulling out the tissues she keeps like wallpaper inside the pussy, where and how to cum (only CIM allowed, but meaning "Come In Materass", Jackson make the correction of the abbreviation), which position could be tolerable (none) for more than 30 seconds if you move slow and less if you fuck quicklier, etc.

Talking about bad mannered girls, even if she (he? it?) is reported as providing good service, the masculine unwatchable (now even more with the new horrible coloured haircut) white-stained-pussy Lily is back from the short period in Dulmen MS. I wonder why after throwing her out Barbara took her back.

About Grimberg's Marina, a real GND, I wouldn't go around clubs looking for her, but I would re-zimmer her if met again. She's young, fresh, unexperienced but with good will to try and improve.

Disclaimer: opinions, experiences and tastes may vary and not be the same for everyone. Lucky those who unload in 5-10 minutes and are (THEREFORE) loved by all girls.

Happy fucking and, most of all, happy posting to everyone.

[Vito Corleone]

True, she also seems to use us to pace herself. Earlier this month I had two rooms with her, but each time it took almost an hour before she was ready to go. Service was slow and sweet.Yes. She does take her time. It might seem like an hour but more like 30 min.

[Vito Corleone]

Welcome back EG!

First Alice is covered only & now EG has returned!

I've banged Antonia 30+ times & never experienced a dead fish. YMMV.

[Myrrh]

Welcome back EG!

First Alice is covered only & now EG has returned!Did EasyGoing stop posting? I must pay more attention to what is happening around here.

Both good news I think, although with Alice now covered we should expect to see less gunk coming out of her.

[Buster Hymen]

Was at VV today, first time I went there. I have not been to NRW in a couple years, for like three years in a row I went to Club Angelique, because the first time I went there, the legendary Kathi had just arrived from Romania, didn't speak a word of either German or English, she only spoke Romanian (and the language of love, LOL).

Since Angelique closed, decided to try a place I hadn't been before. I read back in the reviews quite a bit, and didn't find any good explanation on how this place works. I speak enough German to get by, but I think a non-German speaker might have a bit of problems, so that is why I will try to explain how this place works. I assume the other RTC's are the same.

Finding the place is pretty easy. I arrived today about 11:15 am. Quite a bit of broken glass along the road, don't think I would park here at night. Typical press the buzzer at the gate, walk to front door, girl greets at the door of the house and walks you upstairs to the bar where the hausfrau is. Right on the left as you approach the bar is the valuables locker.

The lady doesn't speak English so you must either understand German or have one of the girls help translate, She will ask you how many girls you wish to pay up front. The entrance fee is 30 euro, plus you must pay for one session, so "einmal" is one session, costs 60 euros total upfront. Seems strange to me to pay more than one upfront, since there is no discount, you don't have any advantage in paying upfront for more than one session, except you don't need to get cash out of the locker to pay for the next session. I went for Einmal, paid my 60 euro. She hands you a key chain / wristband with two keys. In the key chain, she will place the slip for your payment. The large key fits the money locker, you put your valuables there. She hands you two towels, and you head down the stairs to disrobe and take a shower. There are sandals to wear as you enter the shower room. Grab a pair of sandals, take your clothes off and store them in your locker, take a shower, dry off with the one towel, and put the other towel around your waist and head upstairs.

There are basically two big rooms lined with couches. All the girls are nude. The three nicest looking ones were on the first three couches just inside the door. The lineup today was a mix of Romanian and Bulgarian girls. The first girl was pretty, young, but had big floppy tits that hung halfway down. I tend to like smaller perky ones! Next to her was Antonia, probably the prettiest one with a banging young body. However, an old German was occupying her couch, and she looked miserable. Next couch was Lilly, a young Romanian with a short bob hair cut, not as pretty as the other two but more outgoing. I chose Lilly, and went to the room. Nice session, BBBJ and BBFS with CIP. She has a bleached pussy area that she tends to hide on the couch, didn't bother me at all.

However, it went a bit strange after the session. I expected to head to the shower, but she insisted to wash me instead, and took me to the girls washroom. She proceeded to wash me down in the tub. Antonia had finished her session, and came in to wash out her pussy in the bidet, which was a turn on for me. Other girls came in and seemed to find it odd that Lilly was washing me up there.

After the shower, you go back up, hand your slip to the lady behind the bar, who takes it and marks off that Lilly was to be paid afterward. There is not much to do while you recharge there. In the side room, there is porn playing on the TV while a bunch of guys in towels just hang around. There are two soda machines, a coffee machine, and some cookies out to munch on. After awhile, I sat down to Antonia, who was doing her makeup. Asked for her to go to room and she told me she would as soon as she finished her makeup. She got her makeup done, and a guy went up to her, but she refused to go to room. I waited awhile, then sat down with her. She declined to go to the room with me as well, just said maybe later.

If you choose another girl after you have used up your entrance fee, then you must pay the lady 30 euros ahead of the next session.

I had a bunch of other stuff I wanted to do today, and didn't really see anyone else I wanted to bang instead of Antonia, and had no clue if or when I could do Antonia, so I just took another shower and left.

[Vito Corleone]

BH,

She does pace herself but I've never seen her refuse a client. She's pretty tight so maybe you're a bit too big for her (girls talk). I'm average so never experienced any problems with her. EG also mentioned she's a dead fish so a classic case of YMMV.

[Buster Hymen]

BH,

She does pace herself but I've never seen her refuse a client. She's pretty tight so maybe you're a bit too big for her (girls talk). I'm average so never experienced any problems with her. EG also mentioned she's a dead fish so a classic case of YMMV.To be fair to her, I didn't ask her if she was refusing to go to the room now, or even later. I just asked her in German if she would go up to the room with me. Just the way she was acting, primping her makeup and such, seemed to me like she was suffering from Golden Pussy Syndrome. Although I have had exceptions, generally the girls that are hot looking with bad attitudes are rarely good in the sack. That is why I just decided to not pursue her or wait around to see if I could snag her later. I didn't want to wait around for a couple hours and find out she was horrible in the room.

Could be about the dick size. I am an averaged height guy, skinny, but proportionally my wanker looks really big because I am skinny. Lilly was making a fuss about it when cleaning me up in the girls shower with Antonia watching the whole thing. But that only makes me feel worse as I would have loved to sample that tight box, LOL.

Has anyone else been taken into the girls room for a personal clean up? I haven't heard of that before, maybe that pissed her off, because I got to see her cleaning her pussy out.

[Vito Corleone]

To be fair to her, I didn't ask her if she was refusing to go to the room now, or even later. I just asked her in German if she would go up to the room with me. Just the way she was acting, primping her makeup and such, seemed to me like she was suffering from Golden Pussy Syndrome. Although I have had exceptions, generally the girls that are hot looking with bad attitudes are rarely good in the sack. That is why I just decided to not pursue her or wait around to see if I could snag her later. I didn't want to wait around for a couple hours and find out she was horrible in the room.

Could be about the dick size. I am an averaged height guy, skinny, but proportionally my wanker looks really big because I am skinny. Lilly was making a fuss about it when cleaning me up in the girls shower with Antonia watching the whole thing. But that only makes me feel worse as I would have loved to sample that tight box, LOL.

Has anyone else been taken into the girls room for a personal clean up? I haven't heard of that before, maybe that pissed her off, because I got to see her cleaning her pussy out.Other clubs yes, but not in an RTC club.

[Optimist]

I arrived about 14.00, after having made an incall at a nearby apartment, and there were about 11 girls. I couldn't match up the photos on the desk very well with the girls actually present. I started with the soup, then water, then a disgusting half roll, giving me some time to adjust. The line up, optically, was disappointing, as all the girls were carrying some surplus weight. I also haven't adjusted to the need to approach girls, as I learnt my club skills in the days when girls approached in all clubs. I tried a few approaches but the girls didn't have much idea of how to engage a doubtful customer.

Eventually I sat down next to Kathi, who like most girls, seemed to be ignoring potential customers, and immediately got a good feeling. She was a bit surprised at the turn of conversation, as was I, but her English is very very good. She is worth talking to. In the room I was rather lazy, and allowed her to do a very effective job of work on me. Definitely worth spending much longer than half hour. But the club rules don't allow this. I don't think I'll be passing by Grimberg very often, but I think Kathi would repay repeated investment. Recommended.

At around 15.30 the girls seemed to be taking meal delivery and pretty much all disappeared, leaving the half dozen customers the only evidence of human life. I decided I couldn't be bothered waiting so I left at 16.00, for an onward visit to La Luna.

[Vito Corleone]

Lu currently rocks & Antonia has been great.

[Optimist]

Lu currently rocks & Antonia has been great.Good lineup with not too many whales. At 30 euros a go it is good value. I was there on Sunday morning, and there was plenty of choice of about 10 or more approachable girls (even I could approach comfortably and as I always repeat, I hate approaching. Service seems reliably decent.

Another thing I often repeat is that use of condoms is happily accepted.

Of course lack of food and boring layout are off putting, but the Thekefrau was really really friendly and will make a sandwich on request

[Myrrh]

Good lineup with not too many whales. At 30 euros a go it is good value. I was there on Sunday morning, and there was plenty of choice of about 10 or more approachable girls

Lu currently rocks & Antonia has been great.Well this is what ChristianG wrote just a week and a half ago.


19 Jan 2016.

Back in NRW! Yesterday I been in Villa Venus with a German mate (frequent visitor of RTC).

In the showcase only 6 pics, but in the club were 10/12 circa, also they have exposed photos of girls not present in the club. The line up was very low quality without AV girls (shame!), also the environment was off and the girls look boring and lazy.

Me and my buddy were both boring in the club, so around 3pm we leave for another club.Hmmn, who to believe? Or is it just a case of some guys being that little bit more demanding when it comes to looks and service?

[Christian G]

Hmmn, who to believe? Or is it just a case of some guys being that little bit more demanding when it comes to looks and service?Looks and service are subjective judgments. Fortunately we are not all identical and we have different tastes.

Me and my mate were left disappointed, Optimist and VC are happy. So draw 2-2, go there and check by yourself and let's see who wins LOL.

[Downandup]

Looks and service are subjective judgments. Fortunately we are not all identical and we have different tastes.

Me and my mate were left disappointed, Optimist and VC are happy. So draw 2-2, go there and check by yourself and let's see who wins LOL.

It may also be expectations? These clubs are small, simpler facilities and far fewer girls than the clubs like GT, Samya etc.

And you have to set your sights even lower if you are looking at AO girls. They may be in there to make money but they know they are taking a risk for it so that cannot make them enthusiastic, to them it's an unpleasant necessity.

[Sirioja]

Well this is what ChristianG wrote just a week and a half ago.

Hmmn, who to believe? Or is it just a case of some guys being that little bit more demanding when it comes to looks and service?Some just need 2 spots and 3 holes, as a woman. I remember seeing Miruna and the blond MILF, at la Luna, when Miruna looked at me, before going to room, not with me, I was nearly to cry, looked like she went to be executed by her "Brad Pitt grandfather" , I prefered to leave this misery. Photos are much more attractive than girls for real, only gypsy Esmeralda. Bu at Freude was quite pretty, but no AO and she is right.

[Vito Corleone]

Well this is what ChristianG wrote just a week and a half ago.

Hmmn, who to believe? Or is it just a case of some guys being that little bit more demanding when it comes to looks and service?Antonia, michaela & Marianna are great. I only need a few good girls to keep me happy. Rebecca & Jessy average the rest of the Lu the the the the the the the that's all folks!

[BiqJMonger]

I stopped into Grimberg last week. I hung around for 30 minutes just waiting for someone fuckable to free up. I only saw 3 girls I would session with and only one I found to be beautiful. All were tied up with another customer. Waited my thirty minutes and kissed my 60€ goodbye. I was certain I'd find better options at VV.

Moved on to VV and it wasn't as good as my last visit. Again about 5-6 fuckable girls as opposed to 8-9 last time was there. And this time only 2 that were really beautiful. Mihaela and a Bulgarian who's name I can't remember but I've seen before. Mihaela's service was not great. Spent a lot of time cleaning up and didn't have the greatest regret or attitude. She's really sexy though, so I'd repeat. LOL. Sessions with the Bulgarian too. She could deepthroat and was more than happy to with some light face fucking too. Very rare in a club like this. She lamented how long it took me as my second round, and I told her I'd go with her first next time. LOL. I'll be back soon enough.

[Usel1]

Moved on to VV and it wasn't as good as my last visit. Again about 5-6 fuckable girls as opposed to 8-9 last time was there. And this time only 2 that were really beautiful. Mihaela and a Bulgarian who's name I can't remember but I've seen before. Mihaela's service was not great. Spent a lot of time cleaning up and didn't have the greatest regret or attitude. She's really sexy though, so I'd repeat. LOL. Sessions with the Bulgarian too. She could deepthroat and was more than happy to with some light face fucking too. Very rare in a club like this. She lamented how long it took me as my second round, and I told her I'd go with her first next time. LOL. I'll be back soon enough.
Deep-thoatble in VV.

Marianna Bulgarian.

Dana Rumenian.

Samyra, dark skin Bulgarian (now should be off).

Micaela slim but not like the other ones.

[Myrrh]

Antonia, michaela & Marianna are great.
Deep-thoatble in VV.

Marianna Bulgarian.Which Marianna? Marianna with the panda bear eyes who wears lots of black eye shadow to hide the fact that she has premature wrinkles around her eyes and is the wrong side of 30?

Easy used to talk about her a couple of years ago sitting on her own in a corner in Arabella seemingly with no friends.

[Sportsman]

Which Marianna? Marianna with the panda bear eyes who wears lots of black eye shadow to hide the fact that she has premature wrinkles around her eyes and is the wrong side of 30?

Easy used to talk about her a couple of years ago sitting on her own in a corner in Arabella seemingly with no friends.Don't know the Marianna you speak of here, but the Marianna I like used to be Angela (http://www.freiercafe.com/showpost.php?p=213004&postcount=19) from Freude 39.

[Vito Corleone]

Which Marianna? Marianna with the panda bear eyes who wears lots of black eye shadow to hide the fact that she has premature wrinkles around her eyes and is the wrong side of 30?

Easy used to talk about her a couple of years ago sitting on her own in a corner in Arabella seemingly with no friends.Well, not this one. Not sure who you are describing.

[Vito Corleone]

Looks and service are subjective judgments. Fortunately we are not all identical and we have different tastes.

Me and my mate were left disappointed, Optimist and VC are happy. So draw 2-2, go there and check by yourself and let's see who wins LOL.You also didn't try Antonia because she didn't smile & you prefer anal. If I arrived at a club with ugly girls who provide anal & providing fake smiles all day long like the North Korean crowds cheering on their robot marching military then I would have left disappointed as well.

[Vito Corleone]

Visited this club last month & had a good time. Better rooms & beds compared to the rest of RTC. As mentioned in previous posts the money lockers are really small. A napkin could barely fit. Totally useless.

Nothing to really add. Dea was by far the best looking girl. Banger her 4 times. Sandra (I think) nice looking gal late 20's with a about to get a root canal look on her face on the couch but warms up once you sit with her. Also banger her at f39. Another cute blonde with a soft slim bod was average. Dea rocked!

[Usel1]

Visited this club last month & had a good time. Better rooms & beds compared to the rest of RTC. As mentioned in previous posts the money lockers are really small. A napkin could barely fit. Totally useless.

Nothing to really add. Dea was by far the best looking girl. Banger her 4 times. Sandra (I think) nice looking gal late 20's with a about to get a root canal look on her face on the couch but warms up once you sit with her. Also banger her at f39. Another cute blonde with a soft slim bod was average. Dea rocked!Visited recently.

I agree about hte boxes. Really silly!

Deea the best looking, Sandra same as you felt.

The blonde Jessica, nice and appreciable.

If more friendly, interesting to try Rebecka, the brunette, bit boobs but Caesarean section, anyway good in performing a customer on the sofa.

It's a pity do not have had nice time with the slim and tall Samy (or something like that), stunning and atletic body!

Anyway, the club hasn't got a nice atmosphere;.

Apart form the silly system 40/70/90.

Too big the place but too small the main rooms and.

Bad aspect,

Too many men for few girls.

[Myrrh]

Visited this club last month & had a good time. Better rooms & beds compared to the rest of RTC. As mentioned in previous posts the money lockers are really small. A napkin could barely fit. Totally useless.

Nothing to really add. Dea was by far the best looking girl. Banger her 4 times. Sandra (I think) nice looking gal late 20's with a about to get a root canal look on her face on the couch but warms up once you sit with her. Also banger her at f39. Another cute blonde with a soft slim bod was average. Dea rocked!Yes, it seems reports for this club continue to fall between two stools. This thread and the Club Globe-Leverkusen one.

I prefer to post here otherwise it may not be read as I suspect that the Club Globe thread will get few hits in the future.

I was excited about the 'discovery' of this new AO club brought to our consciousness by a couple of trail blazers, Easy and Neuro.

I was eager to add it to my my list of clubs when I visited Germs early last Month.

The problems with the safety deposit boxes are well documented. However no one has mentioned that, no doubt as a result of EasyG's protests, they have now installed little trays inside the boxes so that you can easily retrieve your valuables.

No, the real problem I found with this place was with both the quantity and quality of the women. Which was a real shame because I so desperately wanted to find an alternative to the existing AO clubs especially given that some of them have temporarily closed, and it is not clear when they will re-open.

After 20 euros entry I was posed the 50/70/90 euro puzzle. The other NRW AO clubs used to experiment with this nonsense in the past but all of them now seemed to have realized that customers much prefer a slightly higher entry price of 30 plus 30 euros for each girl. So you don't have to pre-pay before you have seen the girls.

Buoyed by the positive early reports from our intrepid first adopters I had little hesitation in opting for the 90 euro option but then realised my mistake when I saw that there were only 5 girl photocards on the reception desk. After monitoring the situation for an hour I realised that there were actually 7 girls on duty rather than 5 but the club did not adopt the practice of other clubs in giving the girls a name card even if they did not have a photo to put on it.

However 7 girls was far too few given that the number of guys always outnumbered the girls whilst I was there.

As I was new to the club I took my time scouting the place and watching the girls. Confusing layout with the waiting area being actually three separate rooms joined together. One room was more private than the others although you can still easily see inside it. The place smelt of newness and the decor was flimsy to the touch. Just how new and unfinished the place was became apparent when I wandered off piste round the back and found a large room which was still being renovated and at the far end of the room what looked like industrial sized cookers and ovens. As there was a sign saying that this area was privat I quickly retreated however it would seem that this place used to serve hot food in its previous incarnation. A pity as there was no food in the club now apart from some cookies and a few pieces of fruit.

The showers were modern and funky but with a timer which switched them off after only 20 seconds. Much more irritating than the tiny safe deposit boxes.

Maybe my report is already out of date because some of the names of the girls mentioned in the most recent reports I don't recall.

There was only one attractive girl there, Alexandria, and she knew it. A couple were ordinary (one near 30 and looked tired and worn out and another had an OK body but slightly brutal face with big forehead, maybe her name was Sandra, I can't really remember).

The others were not pleasant enough for me to allow them to even cut my toenails.

One of the girls with a photo card was Susie, the anal girl, but she had the figure of a warthog in the photo. Fat thighs and a beer belly. She looked even worse in reality.

After watching Alexandria come back from the rooms a couple of time with guys who looked fairly satisfied I sidled up to her on the couch. After asking if she wanted to go to the room she dropped the bombshell. She used gummi. She then looked at me knowingly, smiling, knowing that I was going to get up from the couch because this was the thing I was after.

This had blown a complete hole in my strategy and left me knowing that I would now have three pre-paid slots on my card that I wouldn't be able to realistically fill.

After each girl went with a guy I noticed that the thekefrau handed over 30 euros to the girl. So 90 euros was the only option if you wanted to avoid adding to the club's profits. 50 euros for 1 girl or 70 euros for two girls means handing over 20 euros to the club. However the 90 euro strategy only works if there are a reasonable number of girls at least a handful of whom are reasonably attractive.

I sat around for ages genuinely not knowing what to do.

In the end as the time for my stay was coming to an end I kind of panicked and took three girls in quick succession even though I had a hard time getting it up with any of them. Their performance was also pretty poor and lacking as well. I didn't come with any of them.

One of these girls was called Madelaine and as she kept smiling at me encouragingly from the couch I decided to take her. It was a mistake. A very big mistake! When I told the thekefrau that I was taking her and motioned her to accompany me to the room the smile broke into a big grin revealing badly blackened teeth and she uncrossed her legs to get to her feet revealing a large black mole on her pussy. I should have just told the thekfrau that I had made a mistake.

My memories whilst doing her in the room in missionary was of a slap, slap, slap sound which sounded sexy but when I looked down it was because my flattish stomach was trapping air between two large folds of fat on her stomach. I immediately lost interest and got off her whilst she gave me a puzzled look because she couldn't understand why I didn't want to finish.

[Vito Corleone]

I assume Dea wasn't around? If not, I would most likely be in the same situation as you.

[EastGoing]

Dea was absent for some 3 weeks plus, she's come back now, only 3 kgs heavier, she said, I would have said 4.

Myrrh, you were lucky in getting a safe with a tray, because not all of them got it. I too thought about the club trying to do something for those boxes, when on a further visit I found it inside, but then I understood somehow I had won a lottery, actually I think only one got the tray, since I never saw it again. Nevertheless, the theke has got a precious tool, a sort of icebreaker like Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct, to help you retrieve your properties.

As to Alexandra, she was before (and should be back now) in Arabella, where she manages to make more rooms than the non AO girls (this says it all about the quality of her concorrents).

I'm surprised only Usel1 saw Sarah (not Samy), obviously she must have been not on duty.

Unfortunately, like the other clubs, also this one has become with "resident girls", so, to visit it once in a while is more than enough, hoping to catch on working days those 2 girls somehow worth the trip to Leverkusen.

As far as I know, the only few changes could happen because Romantika has reopened, at least I was told so by girls refusing to go there, specially those who had already been there (sigh!), but, once again, just the same girls changing club. Verena and Annabella still closed.

P.S. Vito, since you are in good relationship with Antonia, if you would like to fuck her in the arse, you may try to ask her...

[Vito Corleone]

Dea was absent for some 3 weeks plus, she's come back now, only 3 kgs heavier, she said, I would have said 4.

P.S. Vito, since you are in good relationship with Antonia, if you would like to fuck her in the arse, you may try to ask her...Good news Dea is back. W / o her lu is very thin.

Antonia is always quite busy so it seems like many guys have a good relationship with her.

[EastGoing]

Antonia is always quite busy so it seems like many guys have a good relationship with her.I'm sure that not all the guys having a good relationship with her get the whole package, and surely not for 30 bucks.

Romantika reopened, 8 girls, 2 are hungarian new faces, the other 6 ones have already worked in clubs of the group (2 bulgarians were there before the break). 1 x 40, 2 x 70, 3 x 90. Free entrance. Relaxed and peaceful atmosphere, more men attending than usual.

[Vito Corleone]

I'm sure that not all the guys having a good relationship with her get the whole package, and surely not for 30 bucks.

Romantika reopened, 8 girls, 2 are hungarian new faces, the other 6 ones have already worked in clubs of the group (2 bulgarians were there before the break). 1 x 40, 2 x 70, 3 x 90. Free entrance. Relaxed and peaceful atmosphere, more men attending than usual.Not sure what your deal is with Antonia. I enjoy my sessions with her, but also with many women in other clubs. There's another hottie I session with in Venus when she's there so there's nothing special between us.

Sour grapes? The many times I sessioned with Rosa I've never witnessed her hiding or whatever you think you saw. Spending multiples sessions with you for over 1 hour is probably what got her in trouble in the first place & maybe she was hiding from you.

With Antonia I receive DFK BJ & cream pie. What else is there to expect for 30€? Maybe you're into some strange kinky acts that make these girls uncomfortable. I'm sure you prefer to fuck these girls for 45-60 min straight w / o complaints for 30€. If you want to bang these girls for 1 HR straight & expect them to smile & get wet every time they see you I would recommend DVR.

If there's something you want to say to me then say it. No need for your innuendos.

[EastGoing]

Sorry Vito,

I didn't mean to offend nor to tease you, and evidently you didn't catch the lack of evil of my innuendo, which I put following what seemed an innuendo from you (which probably you didn't mean either).

It's just that I felt that whatever I post seems to be badly criticized, while I cannot criticize anything from anyone here, for the simple reason that nobody posts anything in this forum, which is the reason why I pratically don't read it (referral to the posts about Reyna's that you said I missed, I haven't even looked for them yet) nor I pratically post, also because I'm busy with more important things.

In our case, I mean that any girl I criticized is / has been great with you, which is surely possible, and adding up all the times it happened (plus an old "post or stay silent" which didn't sound friendly) I felt a bit under attack from you, which probably you didn't mean either. Anyway, as you admitted about Myrrh, you can't remember a single positive post from him, but I don't think you ever criticized him.

On the other hand, if I post that a girl is great with me, a Myrrh comes out charging me with believing or trying to make her believe that I'm her new boyfriend and stuff like that. Of course I cannot make comments about the experiences of you 2 guys (or of any other member), because apart from my posts, scrolling back tens of pages, there is maybe 1 post every 6 months reporting an experience with a girl, and with nearly zero details. Nor that I care to make comments, in the same way as I don't care about writing comments about comments, which is the only sign of life of these desolate threads, where I estimate less than 10-15 members write usually. At hand, without thinking: you, Myrrh, Optimist, Free Dude, Christian G. , Neurosynth, Jimmy Boy... And?

While I admitted being blacklisted by quite a few girls (and gave some reasons for that, which work for any customer: not wasting time licking them, not finishing in 10 minutes, etc.), because there is no harm to anyone if I say it, I can't post names of girls who offered (and did!) to meet me out of clubs for free, gave me free rooms, money back or even in advance to pay future rooms to make sure I would, etc. because I would put them in trouble. So, the little I posted lately was neutral info or mostly regarding bad experiences, as a service to fellow punters, as a warning, while I keep the good ones for myself. FYI, for instance, in this trip I got money back by a girl I laid for the second time, not the millionth time.

Of course, any girl can give a good / bad treatment to any customer in any occasion for any reason, and tastes are subjective, so there is no need to argue about different experiences or opinions.

Rosa didn't stay with me more than an hour, she stayed close to one hour in the first rooms, then just regular time or even less, and she was universally acknowledged for hiding and trying to avoid customers, which is why she's always been kicked out from all clubs. Any customer who met her could tell you these facts, but maybe you didn't come around enough to realize that. And you seem to be the only one, at least out of several men I met or I read in forums, who was happy with her. Mind you, I'm not saying that you are not saying the truth, evidently she particularly liked you for some reasons, nothing wrong with that.

When Antonia arrived in Romantika, she was keeping anyone nearly one hour in the room and anyone nearly one hour on the sofa, even the thekes were trying to make her realize that, and to make her be paid for one hour, but she wasn't caring (LOL!) and ignored the suggestions and recommendations. When theke said to a customer "Hey, you stayed one hour, you cannot pay her only 30", Antonia would shrug shoulders and leave, reLOL! (Note: at that time, 30 minutes cost 30 euros, 60 minutes 60 euros, money handed directly to the girl, no money for the house, so thekes wouldn't care about time and payouts).

Back to topic, my innuendo was this: I'm not updated because our game was over long ago, however Antonia last year fucked in the ass, but she wanted more money for that, like some girls in F39 claiming to fuck only with condom. So, if she would have done it with me (the most hated customer often complaining about something) without surcharge, she should have (or be) been willing to do it with you even more heartily, that's why I was suggesting you to ask, out of your good relationship, because anyway she wouldn't offer that to anyone, but I didn't mean to upset you, I wanted to help you in getting more and more.

Hoping that the matter is clear now, and that I don't mean to argue for any reason with anyone, less than ever on a forum, and about things which can be different for anyone, I will try to avoid further mistakes. After all, I think I can say I have given a lot to this forum in terms of info, but I can't say I have received much back (apart from critics), since if I want to know something useful I have to read other forums or to find out by myself out of local contacts, so please forgive me if I say things about which not all of us agree or are happy with. I know I have already said these things, but I repeat them because I always hope that things and people can improve.

Please, to you and to the few readers and to the even less writers, don't bother to reply, I hope you understood my good faith and lack of bad intentions, however I'm not going to waste further time writing. Specially for matters that have little or no value, specially since it is embedded by nature, being subjective and subject to changes.

Got to go to bed now, tomorrow I will have to spend my energy and my time in the most important thing: zimmaaaaaaaa! ;-)

Love all,

EG.

[EastGoing]

Sorry, I forgot to write something useful to people who want facts, info, something valuable, not just fried air. And I'm not posting separately to increase the number of my posts to look like a great contributor.

This week entrance in F39 is 10 euros after 9 pm. Entrance in Arabella is 15 euros all day. Ads on Bild (along with other clubs' ones), but you will not find 47 (!!!) girls in Bochum or I can't remember how many girls declared in Venus, Grimberg, Arabella, etc.

Have fun

[Vito Corleone]

Rosa was strange. Seemed spaced out maybe a bit too high on something. Who knows. Kind of quirky. I visited Arabella when she worked 15-20 times so I would assume that's enough visits & I never witnessed her hiding from potential clients. I was constantly going to the room non stop with her so I guess she might have been hiding while I was in the shower, resting or taking a dump. DFK BJ & a tight pussy which felt heavenly. Yes she seemed out there in outer space but I still had great sessions with her.

Both Antonia & Rosa can be bitchy & moody just like any woman.

I'm glad we both agree Reyna / Rena / Rema (her name keeps changing) is a great session.

Anyway, I do appreciate the updated info on the clubs!

[Christian G]

This week entrance in F39 is 10 euros after 9 pm. Entrance in Arabella is 15 euros all day. Thanks, considering the continuous change of price this is a very helpful info for those like me read only this forum and is not in Germany often. The new entry prices in Arabella, Villa Romantika and F39 are interesting.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Snip.
Hoping that the matter is clear now, and that I don't mean to argue for any reason with anyone, less than ever on a forum, and about things which can be different for anyone, I will try to avoid further mistakes. After all, I think I can say I have given a lot to this forum in terms of info, but I can't say I have received much back (apart from critics), since if I want to know something useful I have to read other forums or to find out by myself out of local contacts, so please forgive me if I say things about which not all of us agree or are happy with. I know I have already said these things, but I repeat them because I always hope that things and people can improve.

Please, to you and to the few readers and to the even less writers, don't bother to reply, I hope you understood my good faith and lack of bad intentions, however I'm not going to waste further time writing. Specially for matters that have little or no value, specially since it is embedded by nature, being subjective and subject to changes.

Got to go to bed now, tomorrow I will have to spend my energy and my time in the most important thing: zimmaaaaaaaa! ;-)

Love all,

EG.EastGoing,

You are one of the most valuable contributors to this board. I enjoy and appreciate reading your reports as they are very informative and help me to keep up to date with what is going on in these clubs since I am able to visit them only a few times a year. I would hate for you to stop posting due to misunderstandings or lack of appreciation by some for your efforts. Please continue to post your excellent reports and ignore the responses of those who cannot or will not recognize their merit.

Jimmy Boy 99.

[Optimist]

Having been present at three clubs with EG, I just want to confirm that the type of roccoco adventures he describes unfolded before my eyes. The posts really reflect the reality and in no way exaggerate. In fact there are things he could report on which I saw but which would probably not be believed by forum readers.

Keep posting EG.

[Vito Corleone]

Didn't realize everyone wanted to brown nose EG. I never mentioned I didn't believe his stories, just different experiences with the same woman. I never mentioned he should stop posting. Now he needs people to hold his hand & tongue his helmet so he could keep posting? Enjoy your slumber party!

[Optimist]

Vito. Never suggested you didn't believe EG. I was in no way thinking of you but was following up Jimmyboy re EG, who in the past has had some attacks on him. I noticed that you had only a day or so ago had been very polite and friendly to EG, so no way was I thinking of you.

I guess I'll need to brownnose you now LOL.

I don't get a lot of time to read forum, so sometimes I don't pick up the whole story. Or express myself as well as I should.

Cheers.

[Myrrh]

While I admitted being blacklisted by quite a few girls (and gave some reasons for that, which work for any customer: not wasting time licking them, not finishing in 10 minutes, etc.), because there is no harm to anyone if I say it, I can't post names of girls who offered (and did!) to meet me out of clubs for free, gave me free rooms, money back or even in advance to pay future rooms to make sure I would, etc. because I would put them in trouble. So, the little I posted lately was neutral info or mostly regarding bad experiences, as a service to fellow punters, as a warning, while I keep the good ones for myself. FYI, for instance, in this trip I got money back by a girl I laid for the second time, not the millionth time.
You speak to the girls in a fake Romanian accent, disappear with a girl for half an afternoon and then she tells her colleagues afterwards that you were looking for free business and you also want to meet the girls after work. It's no wonder the other girls are suspicious. After all it wasn't so long ago that some guy chatted them up in their native Romania and gave them the vision of the happy land. Now instead they find themselves sweating for most of the day under some 150 kg fat German guy with loads of gray hair down his back and smelly sausage breath. Maybe the girls would really prefer it if we played the straight man?

[Vito Corleone]

Vito. Never suggested you didn't believe EG. I was in no way thinking of you but was following up Jimmyboy re EG, who in the past has had some attacks on him. I noticed that you had only a day or so ago had been very polite and friendly to EG, so no way was I thinking of you.

I guess I'll need to brownnose you now LOL.

I don't get a lot of time to read forum, so sometimes I don't pick up the whole story. Or express myself as well as I should.

Cheers.No brown nosing please! If I'm gun shy just give me a little push towards the hot girl making me gawk!

[Mindapur]

Hello friends.

I will be in dusseldorf for just 1 day on 8th March.

I was hoping for recommendation if I had to choose 1 of the three which one I should go to.

Important point to consider is.

1. I don't know germane only english.

2. I would be using public transport.

Please advice.

Cris.

[Sportsman]

There is a new girl named Mille started working at VV recently. Little spinner from Bulgaria, early 20's, fake blonde hair, cute face, firm C cups with puffy nips. Speaks very little German, even less English. Gives pretty good service.

Fake blonde Yulia from Dietzenbach started working here again this week. She started at VV few years back and has been in Dietzenbach for the past two years. Called herself Anna in the beginning and then changed back to Yulia. She decided to return to VV this week. Sad thing is she is no more AO - at least that's what she told me.

[Vito Corleone]

When are you planning to provide something useful? For a retard named happy, you always seem unhappy! The 1 min rooms were a secret! I didn't know your m at m worked at the RTC clubs!

[Vito Corleone]

Fake blonde Yulia from Dietzenbach started working here again this week. She started at VV few years back and has been in Dietzenbach for the past two years. Called herself Anna in the beginning and then changed back to Yulia. She decided to return to VV this week. Sad thing is she is no more AO - at least that's what she told me.If her cousin returns that would be very exciting!

[Sportsman]

If her cousin returns that would be very exciting!Who is her cousin?

[EastGoing]

Mindapur,

I don't know your tastes or expectations, so I cannot give you great advice. Given your status of first timer and foreigner, I would tell you to go to Grimberg, if you limit the choice to these 3 clubs. The place is scattered in 4 little rooms, so your "identification" will be delayed or not possible by all the girls, who will probably deal with you as something to chew and spit out as soon as possible. It's 5 minutes walk from Zoom Erlebniswelt tram stop, you just have to circumnavigate the zoo keeping your left.

If I cannot give you good advice about the clubs, I can give you a couple of tips about accommodations.

You may go to Luderland, in your case a better option, at least the theke speaks some english and you have 2 easy choices to make (Dea and Sara). It's closer to Dusseldorf, in Porsche Strasse 9 Leverkusen. You will notice that opposite to the street, at number 7, there is a hotel, Schlafpunkt. Entrance with code, fairly cheap and ok for one night.

Talking about hotels, the best place is Bon Marchè in Bochum, some 3 kms from F39. You pay 35 per night for the room, but you can go alone or accompanied, and the second person doesn't have to give documents. I booked it online, it works with code and the reception is mostly unattended, it surely is after 10 pm. Last update end of October last year :-(

If you are a cheap bastard like me, moving with public means of transport, in case you were in the club with the schatzi that day, since for security reasons you won't travel together, she will arrive before you by taxi. If you were somewhere else, who arrives first waits for the other one.

In brief, if you like to go back to your hotel after a heavy day in club(s) and find a girl waiting for you in your room to relax with, that's the place ;-)

P.S. In both hotels, walking around, you may meet female known faces. If it happens, don't be disappointed if they ignore you. Appearently their boyfriends are jealous. LOL!

[Myrrh]

If I cannot give you good advice about the clubs, I can give you a couple of tips about accommodations.

You may go to Luderland, in your case a better option, at least the theke speaks some english and you have 2 easy choices to make (Dea and Sara). It's closer to Dusseldorf, in Porsche Strasse 9 Leverkusen. You will notice that opposite to the street, at number 7, there is a hotel, Schlafpunkt. Entrance with code, fairly cheap and ok for one night.

Talking about hotels, the best place is Bon March in Bochum, some 3 kms from F39. You pay 35 per night for the room, but you can go alone or accompanied, and the second person doesn't have to give documents. I booked it online, it works with code and the reception is mostly unattended, it surely is after 10 pm. Last update end of October last year :-(

If you are a cheap bastard like me, moving with public means of transport, in case you were in the club with the schatzi that day, since for security reasons you won't travel together, she will arrive before you by taxi. If you were somewhere else, who arrives first waits for the other one.

In brief, if you like to go back to your hotel after a heavy day in club(s) and find a girl waiting for you in your room to relax with, that's the place ;-)

P.S. In both hotels, walking around, you may meet female known faces. If it happens, don't be disappointed if they ignore you. Appearently their boyfriends are jealous. LOL!So RTC girls after a hard day's slog are to be found wandering the corridors of nearby hotels? They make so much money that they can afford to stay in hotels every night or pay to put their boyfriends up just so that they can be near them after work?

We are advised to give our hotel room door pass code to some gypsy that we meet in an RTC so they can head back to the room and wait for us. This is at hotels with no one on reception. Also these girls have 'real' boyfriends who may be part of the Romanian / Bulgarian mafia that often bring girls to Germany?

EG, I am going to go for a lie down and then in the morning I am going to read your post again.

[Vito Corleone]

So RTC girls after a hard day's slog are to be found wandering the corridors of nearby hotels? They make so much money that they can afford to stay in hotels every night or pay to put their boyfriends up just so that they can be near them after work?It does happen if you stay in a budget hotel near the clubs. Never experienced it with the AO girls but many times running into WG's from the big clubs. I have bumped into WG's from the AO clubs at near by restaurants late night or coffee shops before opening even gas stations!

[Member #4460]

I'm going to Germany from the 19-27 this month but I want to go to Villa Venus on this trip. Any safe places to park, even if I have to walk a few blocks?

I'm going to map out my trip soon but I heard there are places that closed and some opened up in the past months. Any details of opened / closed AO places would be appreciated! Thanks!

[Vito Corleone]

I'm going to Germany from the 19-27 this month but I want to go to Villa Venus on this trip. Any safe places to park, even if I have to walk a few blocks?

I'm going to map out my trip soon but I heard there are places that closed and some opened up in the past months. Any details of opened / closed AO places would be appreciated! Thanks!Venus 3 times in Dec. & 5 times Jan. / Feb. No problems but I mostly arrived early & left around 6-7 & off to a big club. No problems during the day. Night time gets creepy quiet but I leave nothing in my car. Not even a bottle of water. Since you guys prefer to close the club I would suggest leaving nothing in the car.

[Christian G]

I'm going to Germany from the 19-27 this month but I want to go to Villa Venus on this trip. Any safe places to park, even if I have to walk a few blocks?VV is located in a classic industrial area, I been there twice and both times I parking the car on Konrad-Adenauer-Ring just near the door of VV. I don't got any damage to my car.

[Myrrh]

Venus 3 times in Dec. & 5 times Jan. / Feb. No problems but I mostly arrived early & left around 6-7 & off to a big club. No problems during the day. Night time gets creepy quiet but I leave nothing in my car.If going there by car is a problem then you should try getting there on foot. This is just as scary. From the nearest tram stop, of course no taxis waiting, it's a 25 minute minimum walk through dimly lit streets and then down the deserted ring road where VV is. Lots of lefts and rights along the way so you really need to know where you are going.

As you turn into the ring road (south side) there is this vicious dog, probably a cross bred rottweiller, in an industrial estate who suddenly charges the wire fence, snarling and barking ferociously. Even if you cross over the wide road and so are 30 meters away from the dog he is still shaking the fence maniacally trying to get over it to get to you. His snarls and ferocious barking follows you all the way up the deserted ring road for minutes on end.

Shows the kind of neighborhood why they feel they need a dog like that and it doesn't exactly put you in the mood for when you arrive.

[Vito Corleone]

VV is located in a classic industrial area, I been there twice and both times I parking the car on Konrad-Adenauer-Ring just near the door of VV. I don't got any damage to my car.You haven't visited many times. 2-3 yrs ago there were many break ins all over the place especially the spaces right in front. Broken glass everywhere.

[Optimist]

VV is located in a classic industrial area, I been there twice and both times I parking the car on Konrad-Adenauer-Ring just near the door of VV. I don't got any damage to my car.Daytime is pretty safe bet, especially on weekdays. I wouldn't risk my hire car in the evening. There have been spates of car window break-ins, but few and far between. If I owned my own car in Germany I wouldn't worry, but with hire cars there is too much fuss.

There are residential areas about 20 minutes walk away which would be pretty much no risk in the evenings.

I never leave anything in the car, like Vito.

[Christian G]

Daytime is pretty safe bet, especially on weekdays. I wouldn't risk my hire car in the evening. There have been spates of car window break-ins, but few and far between. If I owned my own car in Germany I wouldn't worry, but with hire cars there is too much fuss.
One time in the weekday and one time in Sunday, always in a day time. Personally I don't feel more unsafe than in other clubs located in a similar industrial area. Of course I don't leave anythings in the car, but this is a normal routine, always and everywhere.

[Vito Corleone]

If going there by car is a problem then you should try getting there on foot. This is just as scary. From the nearest tram stop, of course no taxis waiting, it's a 25 minute minimum walk through dimly lit streets and then down the deserted ring road where VV is. Lots of lefts and rights along the way so you really need to know where you are going.

As you turn into the ring road (south side) there is this vicious dog, probably a cross bred rottweiller, in an industrial estate who suddenly charges the wire fence, snarling and barking ferociously. Even if you cross over the wide road and so are 30 meters away from the dog he is still shaking the fence maniacally trying to get over it to get to you. His snarls and ferocious barking follows you all the way up the deserted ring road for minutes on end.

Shows the kind of neighborhood why they feel they need a dog like that and it doesn't exactly put you in the mood for when you arrive.I always drive so no experience with the dog. It gets creepy quiet, but I've never felt like I was in any kind of danger. Just really quiet industrial area that gives losers a chance to break into cars. I have zero worries walking unless raining or snow blizzard. If anyone had the balls to attack me they better be carrying a gun or in a large group.

[Member #4460]

For Villa Venus, I decided to go in early and leave around 6:00 pm (or 6:30 pm). That way, it's still light outside.

As for the rest of the places, it should be okay.

Just to make sure, what is closed around this time? Romantika? Annabella?

[Member #4460]

I got my trip mapped out with alternate places if something is closed or if the LU looks bad! I didn't check the calendar and found that I am going (again) during Easter!

The last time I went, I remember Romantika was open during Good Friday and Grimberg was open on Easter Sunday but is there places that are closed on those days?

The only one I know off-hand is FKK Bernd's which has a special 50€ entry on Thursday the 24th but are closed on the 25th through the 28th.

[EastGoing]

Made a quickie, meaning a quick trip, a few days ago.

Enrance fees are changing very often, anyway now in Romantika when you enter you pay only 30 (not 60) and any room 30. Last week it was free entrance with 1x40, 2x70, 3x90.

Last week Arabella was 15, on Sunday 30, this week you should drive to Munsterland to get a copy of local Bild for frei eintritt, otherwise when you enter you pay 60.

Exactly the same should work for Grimberg, but I don't know about Bild. The only news about the crew: Jasmine from Venus moved there some 3 weeks ago.

[Member #4460]

Day 1. Saturday, March 19th- Freude 39. Report here- http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2608-FKK-Club-Freudenbergstr-39&p=1858298&viewfull=1#post1858298 .

Day 2. Sunday, March 20th- Arabella. Paid 30€ admissions and 30€ each girl. I knew about last week's newspaper coupon from Munster but that was the previous week so I didn't bother! About 10 girls that day.

Food- Half sandwiches.

Girls I had- Alexandra, Alexa, Anastasia, Melinda, and Sabrina.

Day 3. Monday, March 21st- Grimberg. Paid 30€ admissions and 30€ each girl. About 10 girls that day.

Food- Half sandwiches and vegetable soup.

Girls I had- Kathi, Lily, Jasmine, Andrea (Bulgarian), Alexia, and Amelia.

Day 4. Tuesday, March 22nd- Romantika . Free admissions. 1 x 40€, 2 x 70€, 3 x 90€. About 7 girls that day.

Food- Half sandwiches and cake.

Girls I had- Diana, Denisa, Arianna, Mariana (x2), and Elena (I paid 180€ for 6 sessions but at least admissions was free!

Day 5. Wednesday, March 23rd- Luderland . 20€ entry fee. 1 x 40€, 2 x 70€, 3 x 90€. About 10 girls that day. Sally from Romantika was transferred there (if you're into chubbys (I'm not!

Food- Fruit.

Girls I had- Dea (x2), Julia (x2), Jessica, Seleda.

Day 6. Thursday, March 24th- Bernd's. 50€ entry fee, 50€ for 30 minutes. About 8 girls that day.

Food- BBQ meat and meatballs with mashed sweet potatoes. Bean salad, cole slaw, cold cuts, cheese, and cherry cheese cake.

Girls I had- Mina (x2), Maria (x2), Mara, Elena (new girl), and Carmen.

Day 7 and 8. Friday and Saturday, March 25-26th. Dietzenbach. Report here- http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3374-FKK-Dietzenbach&p=1858283&viewfull=1#post1858283..

Day 9. Sunday, March 27th. Villa Venus. 60€ entry = 30€ fee + 30€ for girl. 30€ each girl afterwards but (unlike the other places) you have to pay upfront before going into the room! About 7 girls (but 4 pictures up) that day.

Food- Cookies and hard boiled egg.

Girls I had- Sonya, Lily, and Marianna.

I had to leave early to get to the airport but it wasn't the best day to be at VV! To be fair, it was Easter Sunday and some of the girls were on holiday!

[Downandup]

Thanks WanderingGroo, great info especially as I am just a week away from my own trip.

[Usel1]

Day 4. Tuesday, March 22nd- Romantika . Free admissions. 1 x 40, 2 x 70, 3 x 90. About 7 girls that day.


Website always and still says entry 30€.

Good for you but thanks to yr energy!!

[Member #4460]

On the day I visited, it did say "Eintritt Frei" on the paper on the counter as well as the 1 x40,2 x70,3 x90 prices. Anyway, you know as well as anyone that these RTC places, the prices change often depending on the owners. I never trust their official websites as things get outdated often. I remember Freude 39's admissions was no longer "free" when I got there last year even though their website still said so.

I also forgot to mention someone brought in a newspaper to Villa Venus and seemed to pay less for admissions. I guess the week of March 27th, there's a new coupon.

[Usel1]

Thanks Wandre,

That system and prices are not reliable.

The newpapers is Bild, the Munster edition.

[EastGoing]

The newpapers is Bild, the Munster edition.No. For Venus is "Express" or something like that, Dusseldorf edition. Since you write your precious field reports in freiercafe but not on this board (which is not wrong, since apart from Wanderinggroo nobody has written something valuable in recent times), try also to read it. I mean, I was told about this magazine (or whatever it is) today, and they told me it is mentioned also on that site. It must be one of the few reliable things written there about RTCs, since many local posters and (ex posters!) complain that there is a sort of north-korean censorship attacking or deleting posts which don't express positive judgements about those clubs, their girls, etc.

Romantika now has 10 entrance and 1 40 2 70 3 90. I think I understood you get free entrance with Bild from Munsterland.

Also for Grimberg, otherwise entrance is 30. BTW, after Jasmine, also Antonia is now at #12.

[ButtLover]

Hi.

What about Romatica, Verena and Annabella.

Do they have gardens?

Thanks.

BL.

[Member #4460]

Hi.

What about Romatica, Verena and Annabella.

Do they have gardens?

Thanks.

BL.Romantika- There is a small garden in the front that people can sit and relax during the warm weather. The back door leads to the parking lot.

Verena- Closed.

Annabella- Closed but there is a small patio section where people can hang out during warm weather with a few grassy areas.

[EastGoing]

All RTC clubs have gardens, of course small. But I would dare to say that considering dust, dirt, rust, etc. , you are more likely to catch some disease by sitting on those chairs than by going in bed with the girls.

I forgot to mention that since about 1 month some hungarian girls are popping up, maybe a new market has opened or another frontier has fallen. Currently Laila in Luderland, Kira and Diana in Romantika, while Mira should have already left Arabella.

[EastGoing]

Since Sunday I understood no more Bild free entrances, at least for Grimberg and Romantika. Last week in Leverkusen HH was 10-14 and after 19, cost 10 euros, otherwise 30. Still 1x40, 2x70, 3x90.

This week Romantika's entrance was 20, but at least no more prepaid sessions, just 30 per girl if and whenever you wanted.
Two new hungarians, unfortunately covered only, while the 2 "old" ones seem to have left on Sunday.

Also in Luderland other two hungarians, one new and one has already worked in Hennef, Julia. A solid disaster in my opinion, a sort of blender by hand and mouth, and she wants to ride you at light speed. If your dick dies, she will not understand that it maybe her fault, she will not understand that she is supposed to bring it back to life, she will not understand that the process may take more than some 7 seconds, she will not understand that by carrying on with the same technic and attitude, actually even worse, the situation will not improve. She will even challenge you to dare to say something wrong to the theke. Nevertheless, she makes many rooms, probably because she's decently pretty, however I don't think I have noticed her staying more than some 15 minutes upstairs.
Oddly enough, she and also the other hungarian girls in both clubs have a marked tendency to disappear for long periods. Customers have to wait for them, maybe it is a technique to draw attention and get continuously booked?

[Myrrh]

Since Sunday I understood no more Bild free entrances, at least for Grimberg and RomantikaWas anyone seriously expected to have to traverse the length and breadth of NRW searching for the right copy of Bild just to skimp a few euros off the entrance fee? Time and energy that could have been spent in the club shagging?

Maybe those spare copies of Bild left lying about these clubs were used as spare paper by the girls to stuff their pussies. Another of the things that EasyG likes to complain about.

[Usel1]

What a shame if I remind Raissa, in 2014.

Last Saturday almost 10 girls, most Bulgarian.

I appreciate Sabrina (Rumanian, horny or a rel good actress) and the other good to mention is Alexandra the big boobs tall Bulgarian.

Sabrina knows how to run the horny customers. Suggesting duo with Bulgarian slim brunette Katja!

Anyway, if Thekefrau doesn't decrease the enter price (30 is enough. To much.) better to go to Freude.

[Usel1]

Always confirmed to be a nice amusement place.

Marianna, the star. Really hard to understand why she not in a more estimated club or married with a rich man.

I had lots of fun with Bahar. I now understand why she has got such a good reputation.

Maria, the semi-MILF, improved in BBJ. Now able to deep-throat.

Micaela big, very big boobs, difficult to find her free.

Another tall big boobs Bulgarian with strong nose gave me fun with Micaela. No competion, but me to compare the bOObs. .

Good behavior of a nice small Bulgarian; I do not remeber the name; without gold teeth would have been be more appreciated. I hope she is going to earn enough to be recovered by the dentist.

Dana always searched. I hope to have less competitors next time.

Denisa? My discover. She overcome the deep-throat skills of Dana. Even if she doesn't look so performing.

What a pity. Mila small Barbie Bulgarian left.

As well as Jasmin (may be in Grimberg.).

Anyway, W VV!!

[Varenne]

According to the website, is reopening next Wednesday, entry 15€:

http://www.fkk-verena.com/

[EastGoing]

Today I wanted to go to visit. Luckily, knowing these clubs, I thought about phoning. No answers. I had already considered waiting for news, and I was wondering which girls would go there. Then I opened freiercafe and I got confirmation of what I had already guessed. The club didn't reopen. As somebody posted, I too had interviewed all the girls who had been working there previously. None of those in F39 yesterday was willing to go back there (Ruby, Sofia, Dana, Bianca-Emma in those days, Gina is in Romania).
Violetta and Bianca were kicked out before Verena closed shortly after changing "management", now they are in Dulmen MS Exclusive.
The only one who would was Sarah, on Monday still in Leverkusen. Add to this that many girls are still at home for their Easter (in Luderland there were 6 girls! 3 romanians, 3 hungarians), and you'll understand it was really difficult to open again.

Also, the ad from the site about the reopening has now disappeared. Will still keep an eye on it, but I seriously doubt they are going to reopen soon.

[LoveSexInIdaho]

Can anybody confirm if Verena is open now? Don't want to trust their website.

[Vito Corleone]

Can anybody confirm if Verena is open now? Don't want to trust their website.Open & 7 girls confirmed.

[EastGoing]

I visited Romantika last week. And found some 10 cachalots captained by the usual (since last summer) theke, who is at least 150 kgs. 3 of them would fill an elevator in airport or in a hauptbahnhof, covering the limit of max 8 people allowed.

Really a pity, the pretty hungarians, plus a couple of willingly fuckable girls, left and didn't come back, replaced by these whales. Stolen from an aquarium? Or saved from norwegian and japanese fishermen? There is a slim 47 year old MILF, who started this career less than 2 months ago. I wouldn't recommend a visit at the moment.

[EastGoing]

I had moaned about finding only 6 girls 2 weeks ago, on Friday they were already 8. In the beginning of last week I came back to find 5! Julia had gone and should come back next week, we made peace but not love, still a tolerable room for both if chosen as first girl. Her haicomb, joined to her bitchy face, made her look to my eyes sexier than a pornstar, more than once I thought about accepting her invitations for further rooms, my eyes were glued on her through all the rough 30 seconds she was visible between one customer and the following one. And she would always smile and stare at me too, but I was afraid we would argue. I gladly noticed her refusing at least 2 customers to come to me.

Out of this, last week the happy hour had been postponed one hour later, so I made all I had to do to arrive there shortly after 7 pm and found out it would be after 8 pm! Paid 30 euros to have 5 girls available, only 3 fuckable and of course overbooked, even through the theke. With all the men who arrived after 8, I was able to make one room!

Always better to ring before visiting these fucking clubs!

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I had moaned about finding only 6 girls 2 weeks ago, on Friday they were already 8. SnipWhich club are you talking about?

[EastGoing]

Sorry. I forgot to write the title, it was Luderland.

Since I am posting, I will add about a visit in M-Ex in Buldern of 2 weeks ago. The theke was the same of my first time, I am pretty sure she recognized me, I must say she did her best to be kind to me, including (unsuccessfully, also because she had to attend customers entering and girls going/coming from rooms) trying to switch on the TV for me to watch a football match.
1x40, 2x70, 3x90, 4x100. Entrance 3 euros. Some 12 girls on duty, plus a gipsy bulgarian around 60 years old and some 80 kgs. I really felt sorry (and a bit disgusted) at the only sight of her, her attempts to try to draw attention were somehow heartbreaking, I wonder how can they allow such a grandma to do this job in a club. I mean that in the street she would be alone and wouldn't have a theke to admit her inside.
For the rest, Maya from Venus and Violetta and Alina/Bianca "ex-everywhere"-now-also-in-Exclusive from Verena were already known. I recognized a smiling, more than decent, bulgarian from last year, the rest looked like new faces. One was said to be Alina's sister, slim, pretty, but sad and absent.
All in all, considering that sessions last 20 minutes, you can find 4 girls to bring upstairs but I wouldn't visit on a short trip, it could just be an alternative for avoiding the usual clubs. The place has had some repairs, but still doesn't make me feel at ease. Scarse/no food, soft drinks bottles by the theke. The best thing would have been the TV with Sky to watch football matches, if only she could have put the right channel. I may visit for football purposes

[Creature2]

According to latest reports, recent line up in M-Exclusive and Luderland, maybe not so good.

Which RTC line-up is on par with Dietzenbach? Grimberg or Villa Venus. F39 is not on the same price tier because of 30 min /50 Euro.

M-Exclusive price structure still attracts me, but I believe it is not worth the drive from Frankfurt. And which M-Ex should one visit, Bulmen or Munster? Now, there are two of them.

[Creature2]

Long time lurker in Germany but hadn't any chance to visit Dolce Vita Raubach, yet.

There is not much info on their webpage and not much recent report whether this club is still alive or not.

Anyone have a clue about the price structure, line-up, services provided?

As an alternative, there is still Finca Erotica, nearby, but not the same level of services, I assume.

[Vito Corleone]

Long time lurker in Germany but hadn't any chance to visit Dolce Vita Raubach, yet.

There is not much info on their webpage and not much recent report whether this club is still alive or not.

Anyone have a clue about the price structure, line-up, services provided?

As an alternative, there is still Finca Erotica, nearby, but not the same level of services, I assume.I haven't been there since the re-opened, but a good friend of mine did. Mentioned something about climbing some ladder to the roof. There's a big open living room style with couches & 1 room. I hear Bella is covered only & no more Yana, Kitty or Kristina so haven't even bothered.

[Vito Corleone]

According to latest reports, recent line up in M-Exclusive and Luderland, maybe not so good.

Which RTC line-up is on par with Dietzenbach? Grimberg or Villa Venus. F39 is not on the same price tier because of 30 min /50 Euro.

M-Exclusive price structure still attracts me, but I believe it is not worth the drive from Frankfurt. And which M-Ex should one visit, Bulmen or Munster? Now, there are two of them.Venus not worth visiting as the Bulgarian hottie Mina moved to aca gold Antonia & Jasmine currently at grimberg. Arabella has Alexandra, a pretty young hottie with a nice slim bod. I visited Grimberg & Arabella many times a couple weeks ago. I like dea at Luderland. Didn't bother with F39 & others.

[Creature2]

Hey Vito, many thanks for all thise updates about current AO scene in NRW. Maybe Dietz could be a safer bet regarding the line up.

Do you have any clue about the whereabout of former Club LaLuna and Club Angelique girls, BTW.

[BigBuddy69]

Venus not worth visiting as the Bulgarian hottie Mina moved to aca gold Antonia & Jasmine currently at grimberg. Arabella has Alexandra, a pretty young hottie with a nice slim bod. I visited Grimberg & Arabella many times a couple weeks ago. I like dea at Luderland. Didn't bother with F39 & others.Mina aka Kamelia in Aca Gold is not in Gold anymore.

[Myrrh]

Venus not worth visiting as the Bulgarian hottie Mina moved to aca gold Antonia & Jasmine currently at grimberg.This is why we still keep you on the payroll!

Thanks for these useful tips and insights, VitC.

BTW, is Marieanna still at Venus?