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March 2017 will be my first trip to Pattaya and possibly BKK, so I have a few curiosities and interests I'd like opinion on.
For the Bar girl experience and play, I get the "drill" regarding LD, BF and all as, I have been to PI many years ago and played hard there.
Do most be-girls wear panties when strolling the fronts and playing in the bar (trying to get you to pony up $).
What about Bush verses bare? I prefer a nice smooth pussy to play with. I'm guessing 50/50?
GoGo's don't grab my interest too much from what pics and videos I've seen, but if it was raunchy naked dancing & flirting, I might get into it.
Any GoGo's go to extreme raunchy play?
Do the girls discriminate much? I have a few years under my belt (approaching 60) fit and not bad looking. I know its all about $ for them, but ideally I want to party and have fun, not just mechanical sex. Crap shoot?
I am quick to cum on first pop, so thinking maybe I should hit a massage parlor for that first one, then go hit up a bar girl for #2, and eventually pickup a LT lady for the night in my room.
I am sure after 1st day and night, the first pop will be a little more cooperative and last a while.
Will the tiny petite ladies like my small cock, and charge less for less wear and tear? (just joking on this one).
Thanks for any comments.
Robert Long
10-11-16, 01:56
#3 is prettiest / cutest IMO, but it would be #2 for me.
Prefer her brown skin shade and body.#2 has some meat on her bones. The others look anorexic and childish. I guess it's my age but I need a young woman not a teen model. These all look to young to work in any bar or club.
#3 is the best looking and I think her hair is what turns me on.
Any more photos?
RL.
#2 has some meat on her bones. The others look anorexic and childish. I guess it's my age but I need a young woman not a teen model. These all look to young to work in any bar or club.
#3 is the best looking and I think her hair is what turns me on.
Any more photos?
RL.I agree No. 3 is easily the best looking and my choice. Breadman's No. 5 is a good backup although has a slight "smart ass" or smug look. She would definitely have a chance to prove to me she was nice though. Interesting some guys picked No. 4, who I would pass on due to swollen nose and probable fake tits.
The rest I would not even consider including number 2. No. 2 had bad nose so I don't even look at the tits. Skinny is fine for me.
I agree No. 3 is easily the best looking and my choice. Breadman's No. 5 is a good backup although has a slight "smart ass" or smug look. She would definitely have a chance to prove to me she was nice though. Interesting some guys picked No. 4, who I would pass on due to swollen nose and probable fake tits.
The rest I would not even consider including number 2. No. 2 had bad nose so I don't even look at the tits. Skinny is fine for me.Pretty much agree with you on this; #3 and #5, in that order. I would pass on the others, although I would be open to seeing how #6 looks with a genuine smile. At least she is sporting some nice "man-pleasing" lips. LOL.
If you haven't been hiding, you will know the Kinf of Thailand just died.
I took a look to see what happened to the Thai Baht. It looks like it started crashing a day or 2 before he died.
Is this a conspiracy or powerful elite insiders making the trades before the public knew what was upcoming?
Wolvenvacht
10-13-16, 19:41
If you haven't been hiding, you will know the Kinf of Thailand just died.
I took a look to see what happened to the Thai Baht. It looks like it started crashing a day or 2 before he died.
Is this a conspiracy or powerful elite insiders making the trades before the public knew what was upcoming?No need to go all "conspiracy theory". There have been some rumours of the quickly decilining health situation of the King for a few days before he died already.
Mr Enternational
10-13-16, 19:41
If you haven't been hiding, you will know the Kinf of Thailand just died.
I took a look to see what happened to the Thai Baht. It looks like it started crashing a day or 2 before he died.
Is this a conspiracy or powerful elite insiders making the trades before the public knew what was upcoming?No. It is not exactly crashing. Other currencies that I watch (Dominican Peso, Philippine Peso, Colombian Peso, and Peruvian Sol) have all done the same thing in the same time period.
Wolvenvacht
10-13-16, 19:53
March 2017 will be my first trip to Pattaya and possibly BKK, so I have a few curiosities and interests I'd like opinion on.
For the Bar girl experience and play, I get the "drill" regarding LD, BF and all as, I have been to PI many years ago and played hard there.
Do most be-girls wear panties when strolling the fronts and playing in the bar (trying to get you to pony up $).That depends. In some clubs the girls dance naked. In other they wear bikinis or lingerie or short skirts with or without panties. Just do your rounds of the clubs and see what is the flavour of the day.
In a (beer)bar however, things are more subdued, if only for the simple reason that many are open to the street and in full view of all passers-by. Soi 6 bars are different, but there you generally only go inside when you have already chosen your lady. You can play a bit with here inside the bar, but as you are likely to retire to the upstairs room anyhow, why delay?
What about Bush verses bare? I prefer a nice smooth pussy to play with. I'm guessing 50/50?Mostly smooth or at least nicely trimmed. You will find more "Bush" with non-pros or semi-pros.
GoGo's don't grab my interest too much from what pics and videos I've seen, but if it was raunchy naked dancing & flirting, I might get into it.
Any GoGo's go to extreme raunchy play?There are some clubs that have girls take a bath together and even invite audience participation. Again, have a look as it may be different from one day to another in the same club.
Do the girls discriminate much? I have a few years under my belt (approaching 60) fit and not bad looking. I know its all about $ for them, but ideally I want to party and have fun, not just mechanical sex. Crap shoot?Thai society has great respect for age. I'm about your age and never had any problem to engage a companion. But of course how she will respond once in your bed is difficult to predict.
I am quick to cum on first pop, so thinking maybe I should hit a massage parlor for that first one, then go hit up a bar girl for #2, and eventually pickup a LT lady for the night in my room.
I am sure after 1st day and night, the first pop will be a little more cooperative and last a while.That seems a realistic scenario.
Will the tiny petite ladies like my small cock, and charge less for less wear and tear? (just joking on this one).
Thanks for any comments.You are funny! And that is exactly the way to approach the girls. Thai are a big believer in the principle that even work should be "sanuk" (fun).
Eszpresszo
10-14-16, 01:04
As we should all know by now, the King is dead and the nation is in mourning. All of the girls I have contacted via TF are in mourning, even admitting they are in tears. Needless to say, this is not the right time to be in the Land of Smiles.
I have read reports in the news that suggests that tourists wear black or somber clothes outdoors. I don't own anything black except some black socks. I don't don't do black. I am anti-black clothing, and I am not going to go out shopping for a new wardrobe to take on vacation so I can feel miserable with the rest of the natives.
Unfortunately, I have a reservation to fly to BKK via ICN on Korean Airlines, this Sunday the 16th. That's right. Bad timing. I've decided to postpone my journey. That's been an ordeal in itself, because KAL uses customer support in India and not only are their reps unable to assist, you can't really understand them, either. They keep saying they will need to have someone call me back and gave the cost of changing my reservation and of course, seat availability. I'm asking for a refund, and they can't handle that so they will also need to get someone to call me back to discuss a refund on my ticket. Seriously, in 2016 how is it possible that an airline serving such a technologically advanced nation (allegedly) not have customer service who can answer simple but critical questions regarding reservations? But, I digress.
I think those of you on the ground would do us a favor and give us feedback on what is going on, and when it will be a good time to come back. This would be my first trip to Asia, period, and I think going now is the wrong introduction to the Land of Smiles.
I'm heading to LOS on 19th November, I'm really hoping things will be back to normal by then (and a crash in the value of baht and / or recovery for the £ wouldn't be unwelcome!) Re-scheduling long vacations just isn't practical for me (cost and getting time off work) so really hope things go well, the crash in the value of £ has already eaten into my budget and I'm dreading that when the gogos re-open they might be charging more to recoup their losses!
Member #4698
10-14-16, 17:05
Espresszo & DarkSmurf, yeah bad luck on the timing of your respective trips, but if getting a refund from the airlines is too difficult, or too expensive, or changing your travel dates is not optimal; I suggest you go anyway. My thinking is this: play it loose for a day or two in BKK/Pattaya and see if the Go Go's and massage shops are operating and you are able to connect with some nice Thai girls. The country will be in mourning all month, but everything might still be acceptable. No one really knows how it is going to be a week from now. The only thing that matters is if you are having a good time. So if you are not having a good time after giving it a try for 2 nights, then execute Plan B (backup plan) and fly to either 1) Phnom Penh (50 air minutes from BKK), or 2) Manila (3 plus hours from BKK), or 2.B) AC (an additional 90 minutes by limo from Manila), or 3) Jakarta (3 hours from BKK). There are great girls in all these wonderful alternative destinations and an amazing time awaits you in S. E Asia no matter what is going on in LOS. So for this reason, I do not believe there is any reason to call off your trip or pay onerous cancellation fees in order to do so. Go with the flow & enjoy.
IllusionHeart
10-14-16, 19:11
I do not believe there is any reason to call off your trip or pay onerous cancellation fees in order to do so. Go with the flow & enjoy.I concur with Natty, no need to cancel your trip. Having come back today as it was my planned exit date I would recommend you to proceed with your itinerary. You will find avenues for company and as some gogos in Pattaya have posted on their FB page life might resuscitate from Saturday onwards. Insomnia sure will be open on Monday, they have announced on their FB page as well. Am sure other bars and venues will follow. Music or lights might be missing but nightlife will region strength soon.
Banana Boi
10-15-16, 06:05
DarkSmurf, I think you will be absolutely fine for mongering purposes, other than losing girls who have decided to use this period as a good time to visit family before high season begins.
Ezspresso, I think you will see some things be normal starting on the 18th. Many places still open but from my understanding not with any authorization they are allowed to remain open. Not sure how long your vacation is for. Natty's suggestions are good. Have a Plan B and consider other destinations. I am in Phnom Penh now and am loving it. Uncle Volodya has switched to Plan B and will be joining me today. Airfare is about $140 US. Hotels same price as Pattaya. Girls much cheaper and many very pretty on Street 136,130, 104. Maybe not as convincing as Thai girls but really not far off. The big difference is it is not on the same scale as Pattaya. More like on BKK scale.
I'm heading to LOS on 19th November, I'm really hoping things will be back to normal by then (and a crash in the value of baht and / or recovery for the wouldn't be unwelcome!) Re-scheduling long vacations just isn't practical for me (cost and getting time off work) so really hope things go well, the crash in the value of has already eaten into my budget and I'm dreading that when the gogos re-open they might be charging more to recoup their losses!There is a lot to be said for wait and see. Within a few days everything will appear normal for mongering most likely. Thai Baht has already devalued a little. Would have been useful to me if that happened a few months ago. Perhaps you can benefit.
DarkSmurf, I think you will be absolutely fine for mongering purposes, other than losing girls who have decided to use this period as a good time to visit family before high season begins.
Ezspresso, I think you will see some things be normal starting on the 18th. Many places still open but from my understanding not with any authorization they are allowed to remain open. Not sure how long your vacation is for. Natty's suggestions are good. Have a Plan B and consider other destinations. I am in Phnom Penh now and am loving it. Uncle Volodya has switched to Plan B and will be joining me today. Airfare is about $140 US. Hotels same price as Pattaya. Girls much cheaper and many very pretty on Street 136,130, 104. Maybe not as convincing as Thai girls but really not far off. The big difference is it is not on the same scale as Pattaya. More like on BKK scale.Send us some pics man. I have seen quite a few pics of PP girls but never was really convinced they were that pretty. Cheap yes. Dare I ask a typical rate? I once heard that if you go out of town to where girls can't speak English, experienced guys might get a fuck for as little as $10 just a few years back.
Mr Enternational
10-15-16, 15:00
Send us some pics man. I have seen quite a few pics of PP girls but never was really convinced they were that pretty. Cheap yes. Dare I ask a typical rate?You can find the info you are looking for in the PP thread. But when I was there a couple of years ago I was paying $13ST and $28 LT freelance. The bars were pretty much a rip off. Girls would want you to buy drinks before they would discuss leaving. Then after you bought the drinks they would say they don't leave.
You can find the info you are looking for in the PP thread. But when I was there a couple of years ago I was paying $13ST and $28 LT freelance. The bars were pretty much a rip off. Girls would want you to buy drinks before they would discuss leaving. Then after you bought the drinks they would say they don't leave.$28? Did you give them $30 and get $2 change?
That price seems about right taking into account inflation as when I was there 10 years ago you could get a nice young freelancer with a tight body for $20 all night at the Walkabout, Sharky, Martini or Heart of Darkness. I hear those places have all declined now.
Back then the bars were also rubbish.
Eszpresszo
10-17-16, 02:19
Thanks for the feedback and advice guys. As I posted in another forum, I did cancel my flight and incur a cancellation fee. Oddly enough I seem to have found some even cheaper flights a month from now, as we head into high season, which offsets the loss. Then again, I should known better than to buy a ticket in August for two months out. International airfares tend to slump in the fall.
I downloaded the app for Momondo and was surprised at the features it offered to track down the lowest fare. I still found the best flight for convenient flight times on plain-old Faretracker. That said, what is your favorite site or app for cruising airfare to the LOS?
So I locked down the trip to Bangkok and pattaya I will be having Thai turkey and stuffing it as much as I can, So I have plotted 5 days in Bangkok and 6 days in Pattaya I will be staying at the Majestic suites Bangkok and The pattaya Blue sky, what do you Thai veterans think of the time split and the hotel picks for a first trip to LOS.
Thanks Panhead.
So I locked down the trip to Bangkok and pattaya I will be having Thai turkey and stuffing it as much as I can, So I have plotted 5 days in Bangkok and 6 days in Pattaya I will be staying at the Majestic suites Bangkok and The pattaya Blue sky, what do you Thai veterans think of the time split and the hotel picks for a first trip to LOS.
Thanks Panhead.Majestic suites is a good value hotel in a very convenient location. Definitely the best 3 star I've ever stayed in.
I'd say you've split your time well if your trip is mostly for mongering. If you wanted to do more diverse activities I'd suggest more time in Bangkok.
Banana Boi
10-25-16, 00:11
Panhead, regarding a time split between the 2 cities, imo the best would be to stay in Bangkok for 2-3 days since you land there, then head to Pattaya. Stay in Pattaya until you are sick of it whether it be 2 or 7 days, then head back to BKK.
Banana Boi
10-25-16, 00:16
Then after you bought the drinks they would say they don't leave.Quite possibly because you only want to pay them $13 ST and $28 LT?
I never had a girl say no in Phnom Penh.
Banana Boi
10-25-16, 00:53
Need to store some of my stuff for a while. Looking for an easily accessible place near Sukhumvit Asok station. Otherwise not too far by taxi. Thank you.
Need to store some of my stuff for a while. Looking for an easily accessible place near Sukhumvit Asok station. Otherwise not too far by taxi. Thank you.In the future I may need luggage storage in Bangkok also, since my main residence will move far out into the country. So an interesting topic. I currently rent in BKK by the month. But may discontinue that if country life is okay Hopefully will then take a Hotel as close to 2nd GF as possible, for BKK visits.
This one maybe the go. http://bangkokselfstorage.com/home
Banana Boi
10-27-16, 07:08
WTF?! Guy kills wife so he can meet a Thai girl he chatted with online.
A computer geek who was desperate for a sex-fueled holiday in Pattaya, Thailand confessed he murdered his wife to get her out of the way.
Cops say Horst Koenig, 53, murdered his wife of 10 years, Grace, 37, before cutting her body into tiny pieces.
Then, he admittedly cleared out her bank accounts to pay for a booze-soaked hooker binge in Pattaya.
A German court was told that Koenig had been a philandering fritz throughout his marriage. Last November, he allegedly bashed her brains in with a hammer while she was sleeping.
Using a reciprocating saw, Koenig grimly cut his wifes body into eight pieces, put them in garbage bags and dumped them in a warehouse, court heard.
Making matters worse, Koenig allegedly sent emails to his wifes friends claiming she had left him and returned to the Philippines. He vowed to win her back.
Kinky Koenig told the court he hooked up with a Thai woman he met online.
What she promised, seemed exciting, and many of my secret desires seemed to come true. I wanted to be with this woman, he said.
When arrested back in Germany, Koenig was carrying photos of a young Asian woman.
This was a person with whom I got distracted with on the Internet from my gloomy daily life, Koenig said. My wife increasingly lived on her mobile phone to the extent that she once burned a pot on the stove.
Koenig said he wanted to commit suicide but chickened out. Broke and desperate after three weeks he returned to Germany.
He faces a life sentence if convicted.
WTF?! Guys kills wife so he can meet a Thai girl he chatted with online.I'm not worried. It's just a European thing!
Wolvenvacht
10-28-16, 13:45
Need to store some of my stuff for a while. Looking for an easily accessible place near Sukhumvit Asok station. Otherwise not too far by taxi. Thank you.The smaller hotels used to offer this service to anyone passing by, not just to guests only.
But perhaps with all the terrorism scare, they may now be reluctant to do so. It can do no harm though to ask around a bit and see what is still available.
Here are the first girls I met at the Thermae late one night in 1991. My buddy was showing me the place. At the time Thermae was located very close to Miami Hotel, and Thermae Soapy was upstairs.
I chose the right hand girl for LT mainly because she did not smoke. In truth I should have tried to take both of them, since we waited around a long time for 2nd girl to try to get a hook up, mind you she was refusing plenty. I believe the price was 500 Baht LT as standard, However I don't believe the price was discussed. My basic Thai was something like: what's your name, where do you come from? Do you smoke? Where do you work? and would you like to go to my Hotel for the night. I imagine the small talk at Thermae today is similar but more business like and in English.
My girl turned out to have magnificent Cee Cups. She spoke to me in Thai language but with English pronouns thrown in. Was confusing since I had been studying Thai for less than a year.
In the end I took her LT 3 nights running until she and her friend went back to Phitsanulok. My girl was really passionate in the sack, and I loved her fabulous tits. She did not know how to use a western toilet so squatted on top of the seat.
At the time I thought the 2 girls were extremely pretty. Today, I still like them now but they don't seem so stunning. It's my theory that over the years we get more picky. Its not so much about the standard of looks dropping.
Some of my early girls were pretty. Some seem very plain now. Some pics, I think, How did I choose that girl? I am not going to post the ugly ones though.
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11-01-16, 04:11
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I know it's a spessiel situation in Thailand now, but my friends who are much in Thailand says it is no longer as great as it used to for mongering.
I wonder what you, who have been around a lot in asia mean. Where is the best place for mongering now?
I considered south Korea, China, India, Indonesia or perhaps elsewhere.
I have not been in Thailand for a few years and finally I have the finances and time to a 4-week trip.
Where to get the most out of the money. I like to hear your assessment before I buy my ticket.
So I will be in Thailand on Dec 1 I understand the New King will be coreanated that day. How do you guys feel that will affect us tourist I will be in Pattaya on the first.
Apple Court
11-02-16, 23:06
I know it's a spessiel situation in Thailand now, but my friends who are much in Thailand says it is no longer as great as it used to for mongering.
I wonder what you, who have been around a lot in asia mean. Where is the best place for mongering now?
I considered south Korea, China, India, Indonesia or perhaps elsewhere.
I have not been in Thailand for a few years and finally I have the finances and time to a 4-week trip.
Where to get the most out of the money. I like to hear your assessment before I buy my ticket.I've lived long-term in 3 of the 4 countries you give, and traveled in India. I live in Bangkok now. I would choose to fly into Thailand, and then if I want a change of scenery, get a low cost regional flight to any other SE Asian destination. You will be coming here after the situation has somewhat normalized, and there will be no shortage of good options. You may benefit from reading Natty Bumpo's excellent posts, as he travels around the region and has a good, balanced view of the pros and cons of each place.
Wolvenvacht
11-03-16, 08:47
So I will be in Thailand on Dec 1 I understand the New King will be coreanated that day. How do you guys feel that will affect us tourist I will be in Pattaya on the first.Where did you hear about the coronation on 1st of December?
Barely two weeks ago there was an official announcement that the coronation would be delayed for about one year.
Where did you hear about the coronation on 1st of December?
Barely two weeks ago there was an official announcement that the coronation would be delayed for about one year.Hi Wolvenvacht. Report on several int'l news stations (outside of LOS!
http://www.ibtimes.com/thailand-new-king-crown-prince-maha-vajiralongkorn-could-take-throne-dec-1-2439399
Hi Wolvenvacht. Report on several int'l news stations (outside of LOS!
http://www.ibtimes.com/thailand-new-king-crown-prince-maha-vajiralongkorn-could-take-throne-dec-1-2439399The article seems to indicate the date is not exactly set in concrete as yet, although perhaps highly likely.
Banana Boi
11-20-16, 03:15
Has anyone heard if the bars in Thailand will be closed on Dec. 1 for the new King's coronation and Dec. 5 for the late King's birthday?
AmericanThief
01-19-17, 12:02
Does anyone know if Naltrexone is available by prescription in proper hospitals in Bangkok like Sukhumvit hospital?
Long time lurker and first time poster. So, Hi all and thanks in anticipation for the advice for my first trip to BKK.
I met a WG in HK last year. Great fun, but felt I overpaid a little after three days of quality shenanigans. I'm aiming to repeat in BKK (she's Thai), but wanted to get a feel for the "gift" I should provide. I'm looking at 3 days with her. What would be your collective advice for the tip?
Eszpresszo
02-24-17, 17:38
Long time lurker and first time poster. So, Hi all and thanks in anticipation for the advice for my first trip to BKK.
I met a WG in HK last year. Great fun, but felt I overpaid a little after three days of quality shenanigans. I'm aiming to repeat in BKK (she's Thai), but wanted to get a feel for the "gift" I should provide. I'm looking at 3 days with her. What would be your collective advice for the tip?Find another girl. I don't know where you are at, but you are probably traveling a long ways to hook up with the same girl, in a place where the options are infinite. If you want to find a girl and overpay her for 3 days, you will have thousands of girls to choose from. It might make sense if she was coming to visit you, or you were meeting up in some other place where pussy isn't throwing itself at you. But, in the land of plenty?
Never mongered in HK, but by most accounts it is more expensive than Thailand. And you felt you overpaid there? Do you think your lady friend is going to want to scale her expectations based on the local economy? I think this arrangement has a high premium built into the costs.
Wolvenvacht
02-24-17, 21:03
Does anyone know if Naltrexone is available by prescription in proper hospitals in Bangkok like Sukhumvit hospital?That's pretty heavy stuff.
If I were you I'd first check out some pharmacies and see what they have.
Wolvenvacht
02-24-17, 21:08
Long time lurker and first time poster. So, Hi all and thanks in anticipation for the advice for my first trip to BKK.
I met a WG in HK last year. Great fun, but felt I overpaid a little after three days of quality shenanigans. I'm aiming to repeat in BKK (she's Thai), but wanted to get a feel for the "gift" I should provide. I'm looking at 3 days with her. What would be your collective advice for the tip?15000 baht seems about right unless she is model quality. Remember that you will also have to take care of the usual living expenses (food, drink, lodging, entertainment, transport, . . .).
15000 baht seems about right unless she is model quality. Remember that you will also have to take care of the usual living expenses (food, drink, lodging, entertainment, transport, . . .).Sorry Wolvenvacht. Is that Bt 15 k total, or per day? All the other stuff is sorted.
Sorry Wolvenvacht. Is that Bt 15 k total, or per day? All the other stuff is sorted.He definitely meant in total. LOL.
Wolvenvacht
02-25-17, 21:03
Sorry Wolvenvacht. Is that Bt 15 k total, or per day? All the other stuff is sorted.Total.
A long time (LT) is about 4000 baht, so I added another 1000 baht to get a fair price for one day.
Robert Long
02-25-17, 21:26
Long time lurker and first time poster. So, Hi all and thanks in anticipation for the advice for my first trip to BKK.
I met a WG in HK last year. Great fun, but felt I overpaid a little after three days of quality shenanigans. I'm aiming to repeat in BKK (she's Thai), but wanted to get a feel for the "gift" I should provide. I'm looking at 3 days with her. What would be your collective advice for the tip?"Fish as well as Friends begin to smell after 3 days". Ben Franklin. In my opinion WG's begin to smell even sooner. As one of the proud seniors mentioned "we pay them to leave, not for the service". It's hard enough to carry on a conversation for 1 day, let alone for 3. IMHO, do not commit to any more than 1 day at a time.
RL.
Wolvenvacht
02-26-17, 09:23
"Fish as well as Friends begin to smell after 3 days". Ben Franklin. In my opinion WG's begin to smell even sooner. As one of the proud seniors mentioned "we pay them to leave, not for the service". It's hard enough to carry on a conversation for 1 day, let alone for 3. IMHO, do not commit to any more than 1 day at a time.
RL.That is generally true, but in this case he already enjoyed her three days in Hongkong and that seemed to have gone well.
Total.
A long time (LT) is about 4000 baht, so I added another 1000 baht to get a fair price for one day.So LT is 8+ hours and worth 4 K, 24 hours is worth 5 K? Or do you mean something else?
I don't think 5K is a universally fair price for a day for all girls. Depends a lot on how keen she is. It obviously has to be at least as high as what she would normally make in a working day.
First time I ever took a soapy girl away with me for several days, it turned out she only agreed to go, because she has some rash problem that she believed would make her unable to work, however she could still fuck. If she could have worked normally, she would have lost too much money to go away, as I had no idea what a fair figure for her actually was.
Banana Boi
02-26-17, 20:37
It obviously has to be at least as high as what she would normally make in a working day. I agree with this. If she normally would pull in 500 for drinks and can fetch 3000ST /5000 LT, then 5000 is clearly not enough for a day. However, if she normally pulls in 500 for drinks and 1500ST /2500 LT, then 5000 would be more than a fair price for 24 hours. I'd try to arrange something for 2 x ST or 1. 5 x LT.
It would also depend on what you do with the girl. If you are taking her to a nice dinner and / or buying her some small 100 baht items at a market, then your price should be lower than you pay for banging a girl for 24 hours.
imo if you are taking a girl away on a trip to somewhere nice (Singapore, Hong Kong, Seoul, Tokyo, Europe, etc.) and paying her airfare, accommodations, food, and some nominal shopping, she should not be paid much if anything. That's assuming you already know the girl enjoys your company and, as Syzy mentions, is keen on going.
I agree with this. If she normally would pull in 500 for drinks and can fetch 3000ST /5000 LT, then 5000 is clearly not enough for a day. However, if she normally pulls in 500 for drinks and 1500ST /2500 LT, then 5000 would be more than a fair price for 24 hours. I'd try to arrange something for 2 x ST or 1. 5 x LT.
Girls in an MP could be making somewhat more than 5 K per day if very popular, and gogo girls that do several STs per day could also be making big money. However both may welcome a period where they only have to do 2 or 3 fucks per day.
Another factor, is how much she has to pay to BF herself out so she does not have to turn up to the normal job. Its easier with free lancers who can show up for work when they please.
Wolvenvacht
02-27-17, 08:42
So LT is 8+ hours and worth 4 K, 24 hours is worth 5 K? Or do you mean something else?
I don't think 5K is a universally fair price for a day for all girls. Depends a lot on how keen she is. It obviously has to be at least as high as what she would normally make in a working day.I don't think the average agogo girl makes 5000 baht per day. That should mean they have an LT or several STs every day. Some stunners may do that, but most will not. So 5000 baht plus living expenses seems entirely fair, unless of course you keep her awake all the time and fuck her continuously.
"Fish as well as Friends begin to smell after 3 days". Ben Franklin. In my opinion WG's begin to smell even sooner. As one of the proud seniors mentioned "we pay them to leave, not for the service". It's hard enough to carry on a conversation for 1 day, let alone for 3. IMHO, do not commit to any more than 1 day at a time.
RL.Up to him. I also enjoy sometimes take a girl for a small vaccation. Some girls enjoy a break from the bar. I never tried in Thailand, but in Cambodia I paid 30 to 40 dollar a day. That is 1. 000 to 1. 400 baht a day.
Jude Bright
02-27-17, 14:40
I don't think the average agogo girl makes 5000 baht per day. That should mean they have an LT or several STs every day. Some stunners may do that, but most will not. So 5000 baht plus living expenses seems entirely fair, unless of course you keep her awake all the time and fuck her continuously.I would use this as a reference. There is web page call Thai sex holiday (http://www.thai-sexy-holiday.com/prices/). They offer 7 days all inclusive including lodging and one girl all the time for 999 euro, that is about 5000 per day.
Jb.
Jimmy Boy 99
02-28-17, 05:19
I would use this as a reference. There is web page call Thai sex holiday (http://www.thai-sexy-holiday.com/prices/). They offer 7 days all inclusive including lodging and one girl all the time for 999 euro, that is about 5000 per day.
Jb.If that is the case, when you deduct the accommodation cost and agency profit, the girl may only get 3,000-3,500 bhat per day, so that is what he should pay her. However, she is going to expect whatever he paid her in HK, so there may be an issue if he wants to pay less.
I don't think the average agogo girl makes 5000 baht per day. That should mean they have an LT or several STs every day. Some stunners may do that, but most will not. So 5000 baht plus living expenses seems entirely fair, unless of course you keep her awake all the time and fuck her continuously.There is a big difference between working 10 hours for 5 K for LT (if that) and working 24 hours with no free time to yourself for 5 K. None of us have ever tried working 24 hours a day. So therefore, a great deal depends on whether the girl is having a good time, and able to regard the 24 hours as fun or not.
Some girls claim they cannot sleep in a strange bed with a strange guy. Many can't sleep with me, because I am not a consistently quiet sleeper.
Some better gogo girls can make significantly more than 5 K on a good day with 3 STs, and then still get to go home to sleep in there own bed and have free time to themselves.
I think it is very hard to find a price that is fair for every girl. Obviously discussions needed to see what sort of a price sounds good to the girl.
Banana Boi
03-04-17, 16:23
Some better gogo girls can make significantly more than 5 K on a good day with 3 STs, Is this common in BKK? I think I know a fair number of busy gogo girls in several Pattaya clubs and I don't know any who do multiple ST's in a night. Once they're done with the first ST they go home to relax or go out with their friends since someone has paid their BF. The majority of gogo girls are lucky to get 1-2 barfines per week.
I am wondering whether cohabiting in Thailand means the woman acquires right after she's been living with you for 6/12/24 months?. If she doesn't, would her sense of entitlement drive her to frame you up or blackmail you (like in the Phillipines) if you want to get rid of her?
Is this common in BKK? I think I know a fair number of busy gogo girls in several Pattaya clubs and I don't know any who do multiple ST's in a night. Once they're done with the first ST they go home to relax or go out with their friends since someone has paid their BF. The majority of gogo girls are lucky to get 1-2 barfines per week.Yes common in Bangkok, especially with top rated girls in Baccara, Crazy House, Rainbow 4 (in the past) , etc. Girls have pointed out the number one girl in certain bars, and indicated it is based on the number of barfines per month, or average number per night. I was surprised by the No. 1 girl in Baccara with plenty of BFs, as she did not appeal to me at all.
Some girls in Rainbow 4 were so keen to get in a lot of STs, that they would go out for a 20 min quickie and race back to the bar to get the next customer. Not suited to me at all since I need at least a full hour. Surely you have seen that sort of thing happen?
I used to use a girl in Suzi Wong who would try for at least 3 STs, sometimes more, on a busy night like Friday, Saturday. She would do LTs for her really preferred customers, but was generally trying to avoid it. She was financing to build a large "mansion" back in her home town. She had the looks charm and body to get customers very easily and quickly.
This girl was always keen to see me, because I would take her ST at 6. 30 PM before the bar had hardly got started, so this enabled her to get in an extra ST beyond the normal.
Obviously less popular girls are not trying for multiple BFs, and will be happy enough to have just had one. The variation in average earnings per night worked for bargirls, is extreme. Some girls hardly get BFed at all, and rely on drink sales.
Some girls sell so many drinks in an evening, that they may not even wish to go and be fucked.
I guess bargirl ST prices have become very high in Bangkok due to so many girls having to make do with only one fuck per night (or one customer) and often no customer, however the girls that do multiple STs per night are not giving a big discount. LOL
We all know there is a huge difference in quality of looks from the best to worst girls in many bars, and also in ability to hook a customer.
I am wondering whether cohabiting in Thailand means the woman acquires right after she's been living with you for 6/12/24 months?. If she doesn't, would her sense of entitlement drive her to frame you up or blackmail you (like in the Phillipines) if you want to get rid of her?In Thailand, girls are considered to be your wife if they live with you, regardless of having a marriage certificate or not. However does not mean they can get all your money from bank accounts in your name.
Thai men regularly dump their wives, leaving the wife to support the children on their own. The man just moves on to the next woman he will impregnate, and then dump them. He is not forced to support them. There are plenty of Thai guys that are serial impregnators, always moving on to the next woman, once he gets sick of them, and never being responsible. I have heard of Thai men with several children by various successive wives, and no longer supporting any of the wives or children. Not sure why the next wife thought she would be different to the previous ones.
Thai women are sometimes looking for a Farang man for a permanent relationship who will be more responsible than her previous Thai men. However what guarantees that the Farang will be more responsible?
I have met Thai girls that always preferred non Thai men as well. Reason not clear.
It is considered quite difficult for a Thai woman to just decide to leave her Thai man, unless she can make sure he can't find her. The man can pursue her and try to force her without police intervention. It is like the man has ownership in Thai society.
When there is a marriage certificate, if one partner wants a divorce, the other can ask for money before signing the divorce. My GF had to pay to get divorced from her previous husband. So I don't advise officially marrying a Thai girl with marriage certificate in a big hurry. Best to cohabit for a long time first to be sure it is "real".
Fellow mongers,
I'm around for a few days at the start of April. Would anyone fancy a welcome beer or twelve?
Robert Long
03-16-17, 18:45
Fellow mongers,
I'm around for a few days at the start of April. Would anyone fancy a welcome beer or twelve?Your too early for the best time of your life. Songkran is a riot of fun and water. If you have time, go to Chaing Mai where they get wild. I think a lot of ladies go back to their village for a few weeks around this time. Maybe some of the sages of this forum can weigh in on that subject.
RL.
Your too early for the best time of your life. Songkran is a riot of fun and water. If you have time, go to Chaing Mai where they get wild. I think a lot of ladies go back to their village for a few weeks around this time. Maybe some of the sages of this forum can weigh in on that subject.
RL.Not a fan. Why not? Because it's not voluntary. Participation is forced. One of my favorite times to leave the country. Penang or KL provide great get-aways.
Not a fan. Why not? Because it's not voluntary. Participation is forced. One of my favorite times to leave the country. Penang or KL provide great get-aways.Looking at the dates, I should be there before songkran (which I believe starts in 14th Apr).
Banana Boi
03-20-17, 04:16
Not a fan. Why not? Because it's not voluntary. Participation is forced. One of my favorite times to leave the country. I also know girls who are leaving during Songkran. Good time to visit their families.
Looking at the dates, I should be there before songkran (which I believe starts in 14th Apr).I thought starting 13th April was well known or freely avail by internet search. Officially goes 3 days, but in practice goes a bit longer for some. Some eager youth could be starting early too.
Robert Long
03-20-17, 07:35
Not a fan. Why not? Because it's not voluntary. Participation is forced. One of my favorite times to leave the country. Penang or KL provide great get-aways.Can you expand on what you are trying to say by it not being Voluntary? I don't see the police marching people down the streets and making them throw water? This is an event to enjoy and participate with the locals.
This makes me wonder if you are an older man and not really into the excitement? I'm 70 and I enjoy the fun. But I am a young 70.
RL.
Can you expand on what you are trying to say by it not being Voluntary? I don't see the police marching people down the streets and making them throw water? This is an event to enjoy and participate with the locals.
This makes me wonder if you are an older man and not really into the excitement? I'm 70 and I enjoy the fun. But I am a young 70.
RL.Being doused with liquid at any time and in any manner is not everyone's cup of tea. Nothing to do with age.
And I do say 'liquid' because are you sure that it is only water that was just sprayed in your face? LOL to that.
SL.
Can you expand on what you are trying to say by it not being Voluntary? I don't see the police marching people down the streets and making them throw water? This is an event to enjoy and participate with the locals.
The non voluntary part is being on the receiving end of being sprayed by a water pistol (minor), or having a bucket of filthy canal water with ice dumped on you, or possibly hit by flying ice that can cause injury. You have to keep your wallet and phones in water tight plastic bags just in case. I imagine plenty of people become sick from Songkran participation, willing or not.
Most adults over the age of 25 to 30 are not really into it. It's mostly for the children and immature adults or the tourists especially drunk ones. If you are still a somewhat crazy teenager at heart, might be fun.
Most people like voluntary fun, where they have a choice to participate or not.
The death toll for drunks is very high during Songkran, mostly associated with motor vehicles.
Robert Long
03-20-17, 18:38
The non voluntary part is being on the receiving end of being sprayed by a water pistol (minor), or having a bucket of filthy canal water with ice dumped on you, or possibly hit by flying ice that can cause injury. You have to keep your wallet and phones in water tight plastic bags just in case. I imagine plenty of people become sick from Songkran participation, willing or not.
Most adults over the age of 25 to 30 are not really into it. It's mostly for the children and immature adults or the tourists especially drunk ones. If you are still a somewhat crazy teenager at heart, might be fun.
Most people like voluntary fun, where they have a choice to participate or not.
The death toll for drunks is very high during Songkran, mostly associated with motor vehicles.These are good points to consider. I hadn't looked at the negative side of being sprayed with water that might not be clean. I assumed that most are not into pissing in the water gun or bucket. They give out the plastic bags for phones and wallets also sell in some cases. But it's great fun in the hottest time of the year.
RL.
These are good points to consider. I hadn't looked at the negative side of being sprayed with water that might not be clean. I assumed that most are not into pissing in the water gun or bucket. They give out the plastic bags for phones and wallets also sell in some cases. But it's great fun in the hottest time of the year.
RL.Pissing water sounds really bad, but it is not really the worst possible water to be subjected to. Anyhow, you just don't know what some idiots will use.
I don't know actually as have never participated. Managed to be never here on exactly the 13th. I believe flew out on 13th last year but some people had already started on the 12th around Cowboy.
My GF is 38 (much younger than me) and she does not like to participate either so I take her guide. However she has an "ancient head" (a Thai expression translated to English. Perhaps it doesn't work) which really means a bit old fashioned or not too crazy. She takes a long time to do her makeup and dress up at times, so she would not want that spoiled. LOL. Her daughter aged 16 is into Tae Kwon Do and is into Songkran play and pranks as is a somewhat strong type of girl who loved pillow fights when she was very young, and fighting boys when got older.
Any concerns booking or taking flights that fly over Korea or that land in Seoul?
Any concerns booking or taking flights that fly over Korea or that land in Seoul?I know some airlines are changing their routings on overflights of the Korean peninsula at this time, but as far as I know, no one has expressed any real concern about operating into and out of ICN. It's biz as usual.
Hope this isn't too far off topic! I haven't been to Thailand in about a year. I kept my sim card that I have used the last two trips, but wasn't sure if the number is still active or will I need to get a new card? It is a Thai Smile sim. TIA.
I think I can buy one in HK before I leave or at least get a data card, almost never use voice anyway!
Sky.
Hope this isn't too far off topic! I haven't been to Thailand in about a year. I kept my sim card that I have used the last two trips, but wasn't sure if the number is still active or will I need to get a new card? It is a Thai Smile sim. TIA.
I think I can buy one in HK before I leave or at least get a data card, almost never use voice anyway!
Sky.Perhaps you refer to the DTAC Happy SIM?
Just go to the counter of the phone provider at the airport when you arrive, and ask them to check your SIM. They will tell you if is cancelled, and will sell you another based on speed and how much data you want. SIMs have to be registered in the modern day. If not registered will have been cancelled. I don't know the period of non use that will cause cancellation.
It's very unlikely your old tourist SIM is still going to work. No big deal.
Perhaps you refer to the DTAC Happy SIM?
Just go to the counter of the phone provider at the airport when you arrive, and ask them to check your SIM. They will tell you if is cancelled, and will sell you another based on speed and how much data you want. SIMs have to be registered in the modern day. If not registered will have been cancelled. I don't know the period of non use that will cause cancellation.
It's very unlikely your old tourist SIM is still going to work. No big deal.I appreciate the help.
This sort of behavior can stay with Thai women even when they move to USA and become USA citizens. I dated one such widow for 3 years, with her living with me for the final 10 months. Then she started becoming unreliable, just like described above. After one weekend when she missed all planned activities I told her not to come to my house that evening and stay at her daughter's house. The next day I changed my house locks and hauled all her things to the front door for her pickup.
Her priorities were (1) whatever she felt like doing even if it wasn't what she previously agreed to do. (2) activities with her adult USA citizen children, (3) activities with her Thai girlfriends who are living in USA, and (4) pre planned activities with me, the man who owns the house she has been living in for free. I tossed her out of my house 1. 5 years ago. Last month I got a call from her girlfriend asking for a place to stay at my house since her husband kicked her to the he curb.
This unreliable nature of Thai women is causing me problems again. I'm working on thaifriendly and line to select a girl to accompany me on my next trip to Koh Samui. It's easy to find girls to agree, but how many yes answers do I need to get one that will actually get on that airplane with me? 2? 4? 6?There is a problem with Western men and not adapting to Thai women. I have heard plenty of stories about black hearted German men who expected their Thai woman to be a housewife, stay home, not go out on the town with her friends, etc. When the man found he could not control the girl and get her to stay home and follow orders, he would kick out destitute onto the street with no means of support. Some were forced to become hookers (assuming they had not been hookers before. Who knows).
So if you are a controlling type, perhaps a Thai woman is not for you. LOL Back home I had a Philippina GF for a while, before I had any Thai GFs. I eventually gave her up, because she was far too unreliable, with mood swings and changing her mind all the time, such that you never knew if anything agreed was actually going to happen. She would always pull out of planned events, at some point, not necessarily unpersuadable to come back to the plan. Sound familiar. I could not cope with the uncertainty of every single day. She even decided to leave me (about 10 times), and always changed her mind on that at as well. After 9 times, I just said to her that next time she decides to quit, I won't be coming back to her. I didn't I then moved on to Thai women, not exactly wonderfully reliable.
My Thai GF now is extremely independent. Makes lots of wrong decisions without consulting me. Does her own thing. No one can understand her behavior and priorities, not even her own relatives can understand her behaviours. I got used it. Always have something else to do in case she is doing her own thing.
Hi, I am not sure if this is the right venue for my question. Tonight, I tried to go out for dinner at this Spanish tapas restaurant, tucked in an alley off soy 11. As I arrived at the entrance of the alley, it looked deserted and it appeared there was a fire which destroyed most of the buildings in that alley. My question: Does anyone know whether that Spanish restaurant has relocated somewhere? And where? Thanks.
I ended up having my dinner at Viva, on soy 8, a nice restaurant with decent food, and conveniently located close to Dynasty Grande, where I am staying.
I am here in Bangkok for 4 days only, but spent a week in Pattaya and 3 days in Hua Hin. I plan to submit a report on BKK and Hua Hin upon my return to the states, this coming Sunday. I submitted a brief report on Pattaya while I was there, and I may add to it.
I have eaten at another Tapas place betweeb Soi 19 and 21. I suggest do a Google Maps search or consult Trip Advisor.
I loaded We Chat for first time, since previously I did not see myself opening myself to enter society of have miscellaneous unknown persons contacting me. LOL.
I have to get my brain out of the dinosaur actual physically meeting programming. Ha ha. Likewise I am yet to get into escorts for same reason.
Did the location search, and I must admit to being surprised that 3 relatively gorgeous girls showed up close by (Sathorn) with fab natural upturned noses, at least within 2 km. Like Wow. I did not expect that good. My next problems to deal with, will be seeing the body of the girl, I suppose can ask for video call? The pros for WeChat (or any other good alternative) could perhaps give advice. Also how wide is the price range for ST girls. Are real stunners likely to be expensive?
Are the girl photos typically very realistic or somewhat shopped?
I was a little disappointed with filters. I see can filter to females only, but that does not exclude Ladyboys. I was hoping the App would have more advanced filters like should me black girls for example or non Thai girls, or set the age range, or exclude silicones, ha ha. Just kidding on that one. I select Females only and still males show up. Perhaps they never specified what gender they are. Also many person show as close by yet region is in China or far away. Can these all be tourists here?
One very pretty girl Pim's comment is "Single". Is this a clue she is not a hooker?
I can see that on a night out in Bangkok, having struck out at all the places I intended to check, I can just do the vicinity check to see what pops up, somewhere not too far from the ST Hotels.
Carpaccio18
05-06-17, 10:20
Hi, I am not sure if this is the right venue for my question. Tonight, I tried to go out for dinner at this Spanish tapas restaurant, tucked in an alley off soy 11. As I arrived at the entrance of the alley, it looked deserted and it appeared there was a fire which destroyed most of the buildings in that alley. My question: Does anyone know whether that Spanish restaurant has relocated somewhere? And where? Thanks.
I ended up having my dinner at Viva, on soy 8, a nice restaurant with decent food, and conveniently located close to Dynasty Grande, where I am staying.
I am here in Bangkok for 4 days only, but spent a week in Pattaya and 3 days in Hua Hin. I plan to submit a report on BKK and Hua Hin upon my return to the states, this coming Sunday. I submitted a brief report on Pattaya while I was there, and I may add to it.Don't really think I've come across a Spanish Tapas restaurant. If you like mexican food, the Monsoon restaurant almost across the street from Viva in Soi 8 have that. It is quite a good restaurant actually, but at a price. Rates very high on tripadvisor.
Don't really think I've come across a Spanish Tapas restaurant. .Actually I think there are plenty, I just have not tried them, e. G. Barcelona Gaudi on Suk Soi 23. I did try Big Mamas Tapas Sukhumvit 21 Soi 1. Not the best Tapas I ever had though.
Here is a suitable Trip Advisor Link:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurants-g293916-c36-Bangkok.html
Carpaccio18
05-06-17, 10:38
Actually I think there are plenty, I just have not tried them, e. G. Barcelona Gaudi on Suk Soi 23. I did try Big Mamas Tapas Sukhumvit 21 Soi 1. Not the best Tapas I ever had though.
Here is a suitable Trip Advisor Link:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurants-g293916-c36-Bangkok.htmlWow, you're right, there are indeed plenty of them. Never realized. Guess I like Thai food so much I almost feel guilty for having a Pizza or a Burger when here.
So I fired up wechat for the first time, at 12:30 midnight, Saturday night. And so onn Sukhumvit 15, It's 85% ladyboys, 10% massage shops and 5% ugly women over 30 (over 30 *and* ugly). I guess because I'm near Nana or this is a lady boy area. I should try this app at a better time / location. However, I am not super far from Climax though, so it should be picking up better options right?
Mr Enternational
05-06-17, 18:44
So I fired up wechat for the first time, at 12:30 midnight, Saturday night. And so onn Sukhumvit 15, It's 85% ladyboys, 10% massage shops and 5% ugly women over 30 (over 30 *and* ugly). I guess because I'm near Nana or this is a lady boy area. I should try this app at a better time / location. However, I am not super far from Climax though, so it should be picking up better options right?Pretty much the same demographic from my place in Pattaya.
HorseTrader
05-07-17, 02:34
I loaded We Chat for first time ...,Also many person show as close by yet region is in China or far away. Can these all be tourists here?
So I fired up wechat for the first time, at 12:30 midnight, Saturday night. And so onn Sukhumvit 15, It's 85% ladyboys, 10% massage shops and 5% ugly women over 30 (over 30 *and* ugly). I guess because I'm near Nana or this is a lady boy area. I should try this app at a better time / location. However, I am not super far from Climax though, so it should be picking up better options right?
Pretty much the same demographic from my place in Pattaya.I don't know how they do it, but an expert WeChat user can appear to be near you while she is on the other side of the planet. Maybe proxy server? Maybe something else. I'm not an expert.
Be aware that there are scams out there, you might think you are texting the pretty girl in the picture, but in reality there is some sweaty old man who is working on some sort of scam. One scam that I encountered was that during text sessions over the period of 2 weeks she occasionally told me how she made a lot of money that day by trading commodities. Her English during texting sessions was quick and flawless. But, when doing video chats with the pretty girl in the picture she could barely speak a word of understandable English. Probably not the same person. After about 3 such claims during text sessions she said she would help me make money in commodity trading, all I needed to do was open an account with her. Hahaha.
While in Bangkok I also encountered many old hags from various massage places and too many ladyboys. But, there were also plenty of other girls looking to hook up with a generous man. While in a Thai resort area, the percentage of regular girls increased quite a bit. I also met a non-working Thai girl who joined me for a few days with no money exchanged (I did buy her meals and various forms of entertainment, which we both enjoyed).
Next trip I will either have something prearranged with a ThaiFriendly.com girl or I will arrange more meetings with WeChat girls.
Crocodilexp
05-07-17, 09:14
So I fired up wechat for the first time, at 12:30 midnight, Saturday night. And so on Sukhumvit 15, It's 85% ladyboys, 10% massage shops and 5% ugly women over 30 (over 30 *and* ugly). I guess because I'm near Nana or this is a lady boy area. I should try this app at a better time / location. However, I am not super far from Climax though, so it should be picking up better options right?Damn, 50% ladyboys I could maybe deal with, but 85% is way too much.
One advantage of online services is supposed to be easier filtering than in real life (leading to a more targeted selection). Unfortunately, on WeChat this seems not to be the case at all. In addition, WeChat app is horrid (slow, battery-killer, requiring access to all your personal data). I tried it a few years back and gave up, but I thought it got better, at least for mongering, in the meantime. Apparently, this is not the case.
Damn, 50% ladyboys I could maybe deal with, but 85% is way too much.
I fired it up in Sathorn area, and quite a few girls came up within 2 km, 3 looked excellent if pics are for real. Percentage of Ladyboys looked lower than 50% at first glance, of course I only expanded thumbnails that looked promising so not a comprehensive count of LBs. I would have preferred the App to separate Ladyboys from females though. I guess the problem is that LBs see themselves as being female, so that is why they are in the female category. Unfortunately we pussy lovers don't see those with a dick as female.
Banana Boi
05-08-17, 05:33
I'm considering renting in Bangkok for 6-12 months, preferably near Sukhumvit. Which are the best rental websites in Bangkok?
I'm considering renting in Bangkok for 6-12 months, preferably near Sukhumvit. Which are the best rental websites in Bangkok?I prefer to stay at a place for 1 week or 1 month to try it out first. I use AirBnB and if I like it I can either contact the host about a good monthly price or just find someone in the complex who rents for 6-12 months. It's a buyers market so you can get a decent deal on airbnb and shop around and really even bargain while you are just staying via airbnb temporarily.
Member #4591
05-09-17, 18:18
So I fired up wechat for the first time, at 12:30 midnight, Saturday night. And so onn Sukhumvit 15, It's 85% ladyboys, 10% massage shops and 5% ugly women over 30 (over 30 *and* ugly). I guess because I'm near Nana or this is a lady boy area. I should try this app at a better time / location. However, I am not super far from Climax though, so it should be picking up better options right?Honestly, I find the best girls on Ratchada but have found decent ones on Soi 11 as well. It depends how many are online to determine how far away the app shows you who's onlin.
Member #4591
05-09-17, 18:23
I loaded We Chat for first time, since previously I did not see myself opening myself to enter society of have miscellaneous unknown persons contacting me. LOL.
I have to get my brain out of the dinosaur actual physically meeting programming. Ha ha. Likewise I am yet to get into escorts for same reason.
Did the location search, and I must admit to being surprised that 3 relatively gorgeous girls showed up close by (Sathorn) with fab natural upturned noses, at least within 2 km. Like Wow. I did not expect that good. My next problems to deal with, will be seeing the body of the girl, I suppose can ask for video call? The pros for WeChat (or any other good alternative) could perhaps give advice. Also how wide is the price range for ST girls. Are real stunners likely to be expensive?
Are the girl photos typically very realistic or somewhat shopped?
I was a little disappointed with filters. I see can filter to females only, but that does not exclude Ladyboys. I was hoping the App would have more advanced filters like should me black girls for example or non Thai girls, or set the age range, or exclude silicones, ha ha. Just kidding on that one. I select Females only and still males show up. Perhaps they never specified what gender they are. Also many person show as close by yet region is in China or far away. Can these all be tourists here?
One very pretty girl Pim's comment is "Single". Is this a clue she is not a hooker?
I can see that on a night out in Bangkok, having struck out at all the places I intended to check, I can just do the vicinity check to see what pops up, somewhere not too far from the ST Hotels.
Depending on the number of ladies who are using the people nearby feature at any on e given time, it could be only 2 KM or up to 10 KM. AR peak times in the Suk area, it may only be 2 KM but there will be many ladies. Other times in the early mornings it will be 5 KM or more. Outside Bangkok I have seen up to 20 KM.
There is no real way to judge the bodies of the ladies accept by whatever photos they provide. However, what you could do is ask them to do a video call with you. This may help you to decide. I never bother with this since I can just go and meet them to check them out. I generally choose the ladies within 2 KM of my location so if I go to meet them and I don't like what I see, I can call off the encounter. Being so close to me, it's no big deal.
To keep in the spirit of this thread being for massage, I can relate this post. Most of the shops in Sukhumvit have asked the ladies to play we chat to help find customers. I would say about 50% play at one time or another depending on how busy they are. I've negotiated many services with massage ladies in shops like the old Boss massage. It saved me walking in to do it. If the lady does not agree, I don't need to waste a trip inside. I've also tried this on Ratchada where there are many ladies playing as well. May of the punters on Ratchada are Chinese and they use We Chat exclusively and the ladies know it so they play as well.Not sure if you saw my reply so here it is again for you here.
The single in their profile means they want attention in some form or another. 80% of the ladies will offer P4P.
"Anyone heard of this? Worse than the USA? "In Thailand, because of Thai law, all property is wife's name. In Thailand, you have no right to property. There is more and more western men who end up homeless because they are evicted from their land and apartments by their loving wifes and GF's. What is disturbing for me, many blue pill, go to these places and invest into business like hotels or fishfarms, hoping for good life with good wife or girlfriend, just to loose 100% of their investment. No wonder Thailand is booming. The whole country is basically running a scam on western, naive men, who failed to understand their legal position in Thailand.
So it's not even 50% divorce [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), in Thailand you loose 100% if you are foreign man. You are legally robbed by these vultures. Being robbed isn't really that bad in Thailand. Some loving girlfriends and wives go one step further and hire assassins to finish you off to inherit your property you may have left in your home country. There is disturbing huge amount of foreign men who jump off balcony in Thailand. So many 'suicides' happen in Thailand, there is even funny name for such men - 'flying Farangs'. If you are married with property or money to inherit you may signed death on yourself on your wedding day. If you have something precious in your condo your GF may tip you up to local thugs and you may end up murdered or robbed. So many western men end up dead in Thailand there is even website tracking these deaths:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comme...ilipino_women/
Sounds like getting married in Thailand to a local Thai girl might be a free way to get "Flying Lessons" from a skyscraper balcony from her local boyfriends!
DesertFox1
07-30-17, 17:24
37 yrs old virgin and finally gathered the balls to go to Bangkok tonight with two of my close buddies. Over the last two days a cyst / whitehead developed at the place where my leg meets the groin:
It was hard and painless first and now from the last twenty four hours it hurts and is very tender. I had so many dreams and hopes. I don't think its right on my part to seek a provider with this cyst / whitehead. They don't even believe me if I tell them its a whitehead. I don't know if it will subside or go away in the next 4 days. I'm using Benzoyl Peroxide cream to treat it. Can't go to any doctor now also because its a Sunday and this isn't an emergency. Can't say how disappointed I am. The trip is on and my buddies (We've planned this for long) will get hurt if I don't come along. I just told my buddies about it and they are sad and are hoping it will subside. I guess I'll just enjoy the hotel and the food in BKK. I leave to BKK in the next 5 hours. Somewhat hoping that I will find some acne bandages in Pharmacies in and out Sukhimvit Area and hoping it will go away.
In Thailand, because of Thai law, all property is wife's name. In Thailand, you have no right to property. Not entirely true. Landed (freehold) properties cannot be owned by foreigners but some condos can.
MakeItOrBreak
07-31-17, 16:59
Not entirely true. Landed (freehold) properties cannot be owned by foreigners but some condos can.Land can also of freehold type be owned by Americans. I think the big issue is how inheritance of Condominium freehold is that its not guaranteed despite my will. If you invest in another persons name that is a big risk. Don't do that with money you can't lose. I don't go to Vegas with my last paycheck.
Land can also of freehold type be owned by Americans.Really, I did not know that. I'm Australian. I think one of the biggest issues with buying condos off the plan is that the developers are pretty dodgy. If I was ever going to buy in Thailand I would do it throug an offshore company, then inheritance shouldn't be an issue.
Banana Boi
08-01-17, 02:10
Isn't there a new rule that freehold land can now be purchased by a non Thai can but ownership returns to Thailand in 90 years? I may be totally off on this statement. Just what I think I read last year.
Blanquiceleste
08-01-17, 03:23
Isn't there a new rule that freehold land can now be purchased by a non Thai can but ownership returns to Thailand in 90 years? I may be totally off on this statement. Just what I think I read last year.I read a post on another forum written by a farang living in LOS for around 4 years. He has outlined the process. If there is no conflict of interest posting the link here, I would. But I might just as well PM you.
37 yrs old virgin and finally gathered the balls to go to Bangkok tonight with two of my close buddies. Over the last two days a cyst / whitehead developed at the place where my leg meets the groin:
It was hard and painless first and now from the last twenty four hours it hurts and is very tender. I had so many dreams and hopes. I don't think its right on my part to seek a provider with this cyst / whitehead. They don't even believe me if I tell them its a whitehead. I don't know if it will subside or go away in the next 4 days. I'm using Benzoyl Peroxide cream to treat it. Can't go to any doctor now also because its a Sunday and this isn't an emergency. Can't say how disappointed I am. The trip is on and my buddies (We've planned this for long) will get hurt if I don't come along. I just told my buddies about it and they are sad and are hoping it will subside. I guess I'll just enjoy the hotel and the food in BKK. I leave to BKK in the next 5 hours. Somewhat hoping that I will find some acne bandages in Pharmacies in and out Sukhimvit Area and hoping it will go away.Is this just a blemish / pimple or something benign you are familiar with from prior occurrence? Possibly an in-grown hair? If so, take a tip from the girls when they get a blemish or pimple on their face, which often happens when they get their period or soon will get their period; tap and blend in a small dab of "concealer" on the critter and watch it disappear. Visually disappear, that is. It will still be felt if touched, of course.
You can buy this kind of make-up at Boots or Watsons, Big C, all over the place. It is usually a liquidy type product only about 150-200 baht, comes in small containers like a lipstick. Look for as clean and healthy, less oily, version of it you can find. Yes, it will wash off in a shower, but keep the small container in your pants pocket and apply another dab of it after showering. So this time you will not take a shower with a girl. But with this kind of make up product and somewhat dim lighting, I doubt she will see or be bothered by your blemish / pimple.
37 yrs old virgin and finally gathered the balls to go to Bangkok tonight with two of my close buddies. Over the last two days a cyst / whitehead developed at the place where my leg meets the groin:
It was hard and painless first and now from the last twenty four hours it hurts and is very tender. I had so many dreams and hopes. I don't think its right on my part to seek a provider with this cyst / whitehead. They don't even believe me if I tell them its a whitehead. I don't know if it will subside or go away in the next 4 days. I'm using Benzoyl Peroxide cream to treat it. Can't go to any doctor now also because its a Sunday and this isn't an emergency. Can't say how disappointed I am. The trip is on and my buddies (We've planned this for long) will get hurt if I don't come along. I just told my buddies about it and they are sad and are hoping it will subside. I guess I'll just enjoy the hotel and the food in BKK. I leave to BKK in the next 5 hours. Somewhat hoping that I will find some acne bandages in Pharmacies in and out Sukhimvit Area and hoping it will go away.Hope you got it lanced by doctor to aid fast recovery. Anti-biotics are available. Last time I had something like this, it did not spoil my life completely. I probably stayed home for a couple of days and girls did not comment on it, even could be felt if balls massaged (smaller at that time). Subsequently there is nothing.
You go to the clinic to get certificate of having no sex diseases. Obviously can't get a Virgin's certificate. LOL.
Find the right Thai girl to teach you all about sex and how to do the girl right. LOL At 35, one Thai girl trained me how to do better oral on her pussy.
Crocodilexp
08-05-17, 21:33
Anyone heard of this? Worse than the USA? "In Thailand, because of Thai law, all property is wife's name. In Thailand, you have no right to property. There is more and more western men who end up homeless because they are evicted from their land and apartments by their loving wifes and GF's.
That is simply not true. In Thailand, a foreigner cannot own land. You can still rent, own a condo (under certain conditions), own a car, a bank account, and so on, entirely in your name and with sole control over it. In case of a divorce, marital property should legally be split 50:50, but in practice, the wife doesn't get much of that, let alone future payments for child support or alimony. It's worth a mention that countries like Thailand don't have strong rule of law, so in case of a dispute you might be up for a long and dirty battle. Anyone with half a brain would keep most of their assets abroad.
The men who are evicted are usually elderly idiots who use all their savings to buy land "in the name" of an ex-hooker (sometimes just a girlfriend), and build a house on it, assuming they'll have control or fully trusting their faithful gold-digger not to take what's legally her own property.
37 yrs old virgin and finally gathered the balls to go to Bangkok tonight with two of my close buddies. Over the last two days a cyst / whitehead developed at the place where my leg meets the groin:
It was hard and painless first and now from the last twenty four hours it hurts and is very tender. I had so many dreams and hopes. I don't think its right on my part to seek a provider with this cyst / whitehead. They don't even believe me if I tell them its a whitehead. I don't know if it will subside or go away in the next 4 days. I'm using Benzoyl Peroxide cream to treat it. Can't go to any doctor now also because its a Sunday and this isn't an emergency. Can't say how disappointed I am. The trip is on and my buddies (We've planned this for long) will get hurt if I don't come along. I just told my buddies about it and they are sad and are hoping it will subside. I guess I'll just enjoy the hotel and the food in BKK. I leave to BKK in the next 5 hours. Somewhat hoping that I will find some acne bandages in Pharmacies in and out Sukhimvit Area and hoping it will go away.Just buy some anti-biotics while you're here. It's easy and cheap to buy over the counter. Doxycycline in particular should clear up your skin pretty quickly. I was prescribed it for a non STI skin infection (it is prescribed also for a lot of different STI's), but a good benefit is that it will clear up your acne or skin infections pretty quickly. You will also still be able to drink alchohol without it affecting the effectiveness of the medication.
Banana Boi
08-06-17, 05:04
That is simply not true. In Thailand, a foreigner cannot own land. You can still rent, own a condo (under certain conditions)Other than marrying a Thai wife or starting a Thai company, a foreigner can not own but can lease land for 30 years.
From Siam Legal:
"Option 2: Leasehold Agreements.
Buying Thai real estate under a leasehold interest is a very popular and preferred way for foreigners to acquire property in Thailand.
Why is it the favored alternative?
It is simple and straightforward.
Foreigners can obtain full interest on a lease in Thailand throughout the specified lease term.
This is preferred over purchasing through a limited company where you have several shareholders who may have interests that are different from yours.
You can transfer the leasehold interest or even sell it the same as you would for any other freehold title conveyance in Thailand.
The maximum lease term is 30 years.
An option to renew will not be automatic and an additional 30 year periods will depend on careful drafting and discretion of the Registrar at the Land Office. ".
I'm looking for some guidance on where to go to for some vacation I did Phuket twice and really enjoyed it there. Since it has been a few years since those trips and I have been there I'm looking for suggestions. Should be a place to relax and shutoff but not too far away from the available pussy. BKK is not it except for a day or so during travel. All suggestions for a middle between orgy and family vacation are welcome. Possible traveling alone maybe with a friend if he can get some vacation planning to leave in the next two weeks and staying for two to three weeks.
MakeItOrBreak
08-09-17, 05:02
I'm looking for some guidance on where to go to for some vacation I did Phuket twice and really enjoyed it there. Since it has been a few years since those trips and I have been there I'm looking for suggestions. Should be a place to relax and shutoff but not too far away from the available pussy. BKK is not it except for a day or so during travel. All suggestions for a middle between orgy and family vacation are welcome. Possible traveling alone maybe with a friend if he can get some vacation planning to leave in the next two weeks and staying for two to three weeks.If you are specifically set out for Thailand do you want to be in the same place all the time? Anyways Samui seems to fit the bill your looking for in all departments. It's a big island so possible to explore some nice views and sights.
Good luck!
Banana Boi
08-09-17, 05:17
If you want anything to do with hobbying, the obvious answer is Pattaya.
Crazy4Thai
08-09-17, 15:29
To TheDoc007, you could also spend some time RTFF named Other Areas and or Reports of Distinction and see what you discover. There are numerous places with a smaller to much smaller scene. Is your emphasis on pussy or on chillin?
If you want anything to do with hobbying, the obvious answer is Pattaya.After 29 hours straight in Pattaya as I write, and after becoming totally drained (I could not agree more. Some very useful recent trip reports are available including a 5 day guide to Bkk and Pattaya by a poster.
Banana Boi
10-07-17, 07:34
Pattaya taxis were told about a week ago that they MUST turn on their meters. This has been a law for about a year now but no taxi I have ever been in Pattaya turns on their meters. Has anyone come across one who did?
Pattaya taxis were told about a week ago that they MUST turn on their meters. This has been a law for about a year now but no taxi I have ever been in Pattaya turns on their meters. Has anyone come across one who did?What is the perfect central location to be in, in Pattaya, to minimise need to use taxis? Is it practical to try to mostly avoid taxis? Not having been in Pattaya for many years I don't know much about operating hours for the "Song Thaews" (sometimes known as Baht bus but definitely no bus).
I am sure no one enjoys paying ridiculous amounts to the taxis but is there always a good option? In Bangkok coming home from Cowboy 5 km by taxi is a good option at under 80 Baht. However I could see that in Pattaya you might want to be a lot closer to the action.
Uncle Volodya
10-07-17, 08:35
What is the perfect central location to be in, in Pattaya, to minimise need to use taxis? Is it practical to try to mostly avoid taxis? Not having been in Pattaya for many years I don't know much about operating hours for the "Song Thaews" (sometimes known as Baht bus but definitely no bus).
I am sure no one enjoys paying ridiculous amounts to the taxis but is there always a good option? In Bangkok coming home from Cowboy 5 km by taxi is a good option at under 80 Baht. However I could see that in Pattaya you might want to be a lot closer to the action.For me the best area to stay in the area between Beach Road and Soi Bukhao and Walking street and Pattaya Central. That's a pretty large swath of territory and there are plenty of options to choose from as far as Hotels, Condos, etc. LK Metro would kind of put you right in the middle of where you want to be and its a good point of reference.
The Songtaws (Baht Buses) are really easy to use and are running pretty much constantly up 2nd and Beach road and up and down Soi Bukhao (you hardly ever have to wait more than a minute or two for one). So very easy to get to and from Soi 6, LK Metro or Walking Street.
I rarely use regular taxis in Patts. Motorbike taxis are great and I use them frequently. It's 60 baht from my Condo to Soi 6 (which is about 2 km). Uber is good if you want to get to locations that are farther away like some of the G Clubs. Though I have been left stranded waiting for Uber on a couple of occasions coming back from the Drinking Street Beerbar complex.
What is the perfect central location to be in, in Pattaya, to minimise need to use taxis? Is it practical to try to mostly avoid taxis? Not having been in Pattaya for many years I don't know much about operating hours for the "Song Thaews" (sometimes known as Baht bus but definitely no bus). Uncle V. already mentioned the perfect central location. As for the operating hours of the song thaews: they are running 24 hours a day in this area.
Banana Boi
10-07-17, 22:24
What is the perfect central location to be in, in Pattaya, to minimise need to use taxis? Is it practical to try to mostly avoid taxis? Not having been in Pattaya for many years I don't know much about operating hours for the "Song Thaews" (sometimes known as Baht bus but definitely no bus).
I am sure no one enjoys paying ridiculous amounts to the taxis but is there always a good option? In Bangkok coming home from Cowboy 5 km by taxi is a good option at under 80 Baht. However I could see that in Pattaya you might want to be a lot closer to the action.Unless it's a block or two no taxi will take you anywhere for under 200 baht. The taxi mafia refuses to use taxi meters even though they have recently been told again that they must use meters.
Depends what your budget is for a hotel and what you plan on doing in Pattaya. This has been discussed in the Pattaya hotel thread. Since I believe you are mainly a gogo guy you can stay at places near Walking Street like Baywalk Residence, Aya Boutique Hotel, or LK Empress. If you want to stay at a place you can get home easily with your gogo date you can stay at Baraquda or Avani Hotel. If you want to be conveniently located to both Walking Street and LK Metro I would recommend LK Residence or LK Metropole, both are steps from the LK Metro gogo bars. Quick to get to and from Walking Street using the Soi Buakhao baht bus to go to Walking Street and returning home on 2nd Road. These hotels are all in the area Uncle V mentioned.
Since I believe you are mainly a gogo guy you can stay at places near Walking Street like Baywalk Residence, Aya Boutique Hotel, or LK Empress. If you want to stay at a place you can get home easily with your gogo date you can stay at Baraquda or Avani Hotel. If you want to be conveniently located to both Walking Street and LK Metro I would recommend LK Residence or LK Metropole, both are steps from the LK Metro gogo bars. Quick to get to and from Walking Street using the Soi Buakhao baht bus to go to Walking Street and returning home on 2nd Road. These hotels are all in the area Uncle V mentioned.Thanks for info.
I am not really "a mainly gogo" guy, however I just go anywhere I can find pretty girls with really great bodies (limited defects) that are really into Farangs more so than other types of guys. It just happens that a bar is place where can check out thoroughly the body of the girl and the check the vibe between the two people. I don't usually buy if unsure. Can spend time and ask her questions to discover her attitudes. Can determine if she might be a GFE and into DFK. I don't need pornstars so much. I presume you don't also. I have to admit to liking girls better when they have no clothes on. LOL I would like to cut back on bargirls where I can find cheaper alternatives. I only have one regular who spends the whole night with me (more value), and she was never a bargirl.
In the past I used to be mainly a Soapies guy. Then about 10 years ago I was doing Oilies quite heavily. Never been that big on freelancers and SWs as get too many shocks when they take the clothes off and most of them are not planning on fucking for well over 30 minutes (Low success rate for me), where I am a 60 to 90 minute guy (even two hours for really experienced and high stamina girls).
Soapies vastly deteriorated over the years due to Surgeries and due to declining girl attitudes and increase in dick scared girls used to doing Asian customers. Became hard to find real natural beauties that were also GFE and horny, but still possible. With Oilies, well it is just so hard to find pretty girls there, and they don't seem to last long. Hell I can even do BJ bars if I can find a girl with good enough face and body. Just does not excite me to fuck very average type of girls, when GF has a very hot curvy body.
The other thing I like is when a lot of monger venues are real close to each other. Then can move from one to another till find something I like. Plenty of times entered several massage shops in succession not quite finding the girl hot enough for me. Sometimes looked in several bars in succession and even walked up and down a Soi looking for a pretty freelancer (are there any?) LOL
So clearly the best aspect of Pattaya has to be the concentration of monger venues close to each other.
What is the perfect central location to be in, in Pattaya, to minimise need to use taxis? Is it practical to try to mostly avoid taxis? Not having been in Pattaya for many years I don't know much about operating hours for the "Song Thaews" (sometimes known as Baht bus but definitely no bus).
I am sure no one enjoys paying ridiculous amounts to the taxis but is there always a good option? In Bangkok coming home from Cowboy 5 km by taxi is a good option at under 80 Baht. However I could see that in Pattaya you might want to be a lot closer to the action.I am in Phuket, but my experience with motor bike taxies, is after one gives me a ride, I hand him my phone and have him put in his number. If you are doing the same trip several times you know the price before you call. Have a few to call in case he is busy.
Crocodilexp
10-09-17, 21:40
What is the perfect central location to be in, in Pattaya, to minimise need to use taxis? Is it practical to try to mostly avoid taxis? Not having been in Pattaya for many years I don't know much about operating hours for the "Song Thaews" (sometimes known as Baht bus but definitely no bus). Anywhere close to Beach Road or Second Road. The most reliable, 24/7 songtaew line goes loops from Dolphin Monument to Walking Street along Beach Road, and then back along Second Road. There are other lines, of course, but less frequent, and perhaps not active at night.
I stay in that area and virtually never use taxis in Pattaya. To be honest, I don't see much of interest beyond the Third Road to the east and North Pattaya Road, though I know there are some venues that way.
Jomtien is also served by songtaew, but requires changing near South Pattaya intersection. Same line serves the bus station with buses to Suvarnabhumi (near Thepprasit v Thappraya junction), which is more convenient than the station on and Pattaya Road. Seems like the powers that be removed public songtaews along that road (to the main bus station there), in order to maximize extortion opportunities (songteaw departing from bus station charges 50 baht for a ride that costs 10 baht everywhere else, and there isn't one going the other way).
JamesRider
10-12-17, 09:48
Bangkokroughguide? Sorry. Not trying to advertise another site here but it seems to have disappeared without a trace. This was a busy site too. I know several posters here posted there too. Anyone know what happened?
Hi!
I live on the north side of Bangkok off Ladprao Rd between Ratchadapisek and Phahonyothin. While I've found a couple good MP's for a regular massage, I'm not having any luck finding a place that offers extras. The closest would be further down Ratchadapisek, which is fine. Some days I just don't feel like dealing with the mrt!
Can anyone recommend a MP offering extras in that area of Ladprao Road, or anywhere close. I'm often near the intersection of Ratchada / Phahonyothin near Major Ratchada. Is there any along Phahonyothin north of that intersection?
Many thanks!
Banana Boi
10-30-17, 10:22
Other than Pattaya and Bangkok, which SEA cities are the best to go to with gogo style clubs or maybe INDOOR bars like those near Riverside 136/130 in Phnom Penh? I DO NOT enjoy outdoor bars.
I am not interested in places like iBar / Insomnia in Pattaya or other pick up bars where the music is so loud I can't easily speak with the girl or it is so crowded with guys where my girl and I don't have our own space. Places like Beach Club and Thai Club in Kuala Lumpur are ok. Ipanema in Singapore is bearable. I'd prefer to have my girl in my arms by 9 pm and go out with them all night rather than wait until 3 am to pick up a girl.
Any ideas appreciated. Ho Chi Minh? Kuala Lumpur? Singapore? Jakarta? Phuket? Angeles City? Anywhere else?
Hi!
I live on the north side of Bangkok off Ladprao Rd between Ratchadapisek and Phahonyothin. While I've found a couple good MP's for a regular massage, I'm not having any luck finding a place that offers extras. The closest would be further down Ratchadapisek, which is fine. Some days I just don't feel like dealing with the mrt!
Can anyone recommend a MP offering extras in that area of Ladprao Road, or anywhere close. I'm often near the intersection of Ratchada / Phahonyothin near Major Ratchada. Is there any along Phahonyothin north of that intersection?
Many thanks!Many that know something maybe lazy to answer since you give a very lazy impression from your post. I don't have the personal experience (not in the area) but can still find stuff easy enough.
Even Poseidon Soapy is not that far away. I travel several km to monger so why not you too, or live closer to the action.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1ISbrDE74nTvobhywbnRF6BxyM2Y&hl=en_US&ll=13.815478255301876%2C100.5625662829284&z=16
http://www.nurugelexport.com/nuru-massage-locations/thailand/6
http://www.kapooclub.com/?s=Lad+Prao.
Perhaps you can drive the translate of Thai to English on Google.
Also you can feed in Chatuchak for search functions.
Hmmm. Sorry to give you the idea that I'm lazy. I've done quite a bit of searching prior to posting my question. This searching included a number of visits to local MP's. I will continue investigating the area. My guess is I will have to travel if I want these services. However, seeking something closer and more convenient isn't lazy. Just simply logical.
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
DO.
Many that know something maybe lazy to answer since you give a very lazy impression from your post. I don't have the personal experience (not in the area) but can still find stuff easy enough.
Even Poseidon Soapy is not that far away. I travel several km to monger so why not you too, or live closer to the action.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1ISbrDE74nTvobhywbnRF6BxyM2Y&hl=en_US&ll=13.815478255301876%2C100.5625662829284&z=16
http://www.nurugelexport.com/nuru-massage-locations/thailand/6
http://www.kapooclub.com/?s=Lad+Prao.
Perhaps you can drive the translate of Thai to English on Google.
Also you can feed in Chatuchak for search functions.
Hmmm. Sorry to give you the idea that I'm lazy. I've done quite a bit of searching prior to posting my question. This searching included a number of visits to local MP's. I will continue investigating the area. My guess is I will have to travel if I want these services. However, seeking something closer and more convenient isn't lazy. Just simply logical.
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
DO.Yes, you may well not be as lazy as your prior post suggests. LOL One needs to be careful how we word things these days. So would help if you posted some detail about what places you tried nearby. The info you give, the more you might inspire someone who lives in your area to give up some knowledge. It isn't me that knows the area at all.
To me it is not quite logical to go looking for action in the nearest place that might provide. I prefer to go to best places with girls to suit my style and spec. Probably very Thai oriented places are not going to suit me (Thais normally pop so quick). That (my style) could require more effort but also reward better. My most regular Gik lives in a district that is 14 km away from me. This requires a 20 to 25 min taxi ride late at night and worse in daytime. I just have to accept it. I keep hoping she will move to my side of town. I have thought about what would happen if we were in the same apartment block. LOL I might get bored with her.
What is logical for me is to travel to a location where some sure thing girls are available, even if not close by.
Maybe the difference is I am very picky about who is a good or adequate fuck, to be worth actually spending any money on it. Quality of looks stamina and attitude is required for me. Others may just want a HJ and any girl will do. Put a bag over her head. LOL.
I once lived near to Udom Suk but never checked out the local Thai oriented monger venues. Perhaps I was wrong not to do that, however just feared a lot of wasted money finding unsuitable girls.
Have a weekend free in Asia when going to China, and wondering if it's worth taking the trip to Pattaya just for 2 or 3 days. I know the mongering scene in BKK very well but I've never been in Pattaya.
SirWilliam4
11-16-17, 04:16
Have a weekend free in Asia when going to China, and wondering if it's worth taking the trip to Pattaya just for 2 or 3 days. I know the mongering scene in BKK very well but I've never been in Pattaya.If you know the BKK scene so well, why have you not posted anything?
Pattaya is fun also.
Have a weekend free in Asia when going to China, and wondering if it's worth taking the trip to Pattaya just for 2 or 3 days. I know the mongering scene in BKK very well but I've never been in Pattaya.It is worth it because the vibe is very different from BKK and a cool thing to experience. However, you need to decide whether you want to devote X-hours just on travel (time to the airport in China, flight to BKK, commute to Pattaya, and then back again). If coming from South China then more bearable but flying in from Shanghai or Beijing, you're looking at close to 20 hours all-in just on the travel for a weekend!
Andersson25
11-22-17, 18:50
Fact: I love BKK and Patty and have been there a couple of times.
Problem: Supervisor at home that would really question a single guy trip to Patty. I need the best fking excuse in the world to go to BKK for another 5-7 days and then escape to Patty with the bus. A business opportunity, my best friends wedding / funeral or helping an old friend become sober would work. (I have been looking for jobs that require frequent travelling to BKK just for this).
I need your help guys, what excuse could I have to go to BKK, or even to Patty? Give me all your ideas!
Fact: I love BKK and Patty and have been there a couple of times.
Problem: Supervisor at home that would really question a single guy trip to Patty. I need the best fking excuse in the world to go to BKK for another 5-7 days and then escape to Patty with the bus. A business opportunity, my best friends wedding / funeral or helping an old friend become sober would work. (I have been looking for jobs that require frequent travelling to BKK just for this).
I need your help guys, what excuse could I have to go to BKK, or even to Patty? Give me all your ideas!Wow excellent reports for the couple of times you been their, keep up the hard and good work, be a man and say I'm going to Thailand, or write it 150 times on blackboard and keep being a sixed grader! See problem easily solved!
Keep a poker face and say this.
A college time buddy of mine lives in Australia and he is visiting Thailand for work for a week, and he is asking us to join him there for a get together. Some of my other friends are working in the vicinity as well, so to make it easy for them I am traveling there.
It worked for me and hopefully will work for you as well.
Fact: I love BKK and Patty and have been there a couple of times.
Problem: Supervisor at home that would really question a single guy trip to Patty. I need the best fking excuse in the world to go to BKK for another 5-7 days and then escape to Patty with the bus. A business opportunity, my best friends wedding / funeral or helping an old friend become sober would work. (I have been looking for jobs that require frequent travelling to BKK just for this).
I need your help guys, what excuse could I have to go to BKK, or even to Patty? Give me all your ideas!
Keep a poker face and say this.
A college time buddy of mine lives in Australia and he is visiting Thailand for work for a week, and he is asking us to join him there for a get together. Some of my other friends are working in the vicinity as well, so to make it easy for them I am traveling there.
It worked for me and hopefully will work for you as well.I'm assuming the supervisor at home is the wife? My work is in the automotive industry and fortunately for me there are a lot of factories around Pattaya and Bangkok so I have a good reason to go even though my position doesn't need me top go LOL. Unfortunately my wife would not allow me to go if it involved a friend in any circumstances because she knows there will be trouble afoot.
Good luck.
Eric Swiss
11-23-17, 09:34
Fact: I love BKK and Patty and have been there a couple of times.
Problem: Supervisor at home that would really question a single guy trip to Patty. I need the best fking excuse in the world to go to BKK for another 5-7 days and then escape to Patty with the bus. A business opportunity, my best friends wedding / funeral or helping an old friend become sober would work. (I have been looking for jobs that require frequent travelling to BKK just for this).
I need your help guys, what excuse could I have to go to BKK, or even to Patty? Give me all your ideas!Just say you want to go sailing. There's a Yacht Club in Pattaya and they accept day visitors.
Banana Boi
12-03-17, 21:30
For those in Thailand this week remember there are 3 National holidays on December 5, 10, and 11.
I know some gogo bars are shutting down in LK Metro in Pattaya. Now sure what will be open and closed. I'm assuming Walking Street remains open I didn't ask. I use these National Holidays as a day of rest.
Eszpresszo
12-04-17, 06:21
Fact: I love BKK and Patty and have been there a couple of times.
Problem: Supervisor at home that would really question a single guy trip to Patty. I need the best fking excuse in the world to go to BKK for another 5-7 days and then escape to Patty with the bus. A business opportunity, my best friends wedding / funeral or helping an old friend become sober would work. (I have been looking for jobs that require frequent travelling to BKK just for this).
I need your help guys, what excuse could I have to go to BKK, or even to Patty? Give me all your ideas!Ummm. Why does your boss need to worry where you are going? Are you employed at the Southern Baptist Convention or your local diocese? If you really must tell them where you are going, then tell them you are visiting the nation where your plane stops (not a lot of direct flights to Thailand from the Western world so I imagine you will connect somewhere). EVA airlines via Taipei? JAL via Tokyo? I've seen flights to SE Asia, that required a change of airport and / or an overnight stay in Tokyo. Text your colleagues a photo from your layover in Japan.
Take a trip to Ankorwat in Cambodia. It's a renowned World Heritage Site. But, you will find Siem Reap's airport is connected to a limited number of foreign airports. And two of them happen to be in Bangkok. In fact, most of the flights seem to REP seem to originate in the Big Mango / You don't have to tell anyone your layover in Thailand lasted until you couldn't fuck any more, so you visited a major cultural attraction in Scambodia while you allowed your "chi" to recharge. Nor do you tell them you spent your final layover in Pattaya before you caught your flight back home.
BTW, I got a great deal on Qatar Airways. DFW to KUL for $654. I told my family and colleagues I was going to Malaysia, so I could try that exotic cuisine and check out historic Georgetown. Completely true. That is part of my agenda. What I didn't tell them was I was also going to take the bus up to Dannok to experience the lowest prices for mongering in Thailand or catch a cheap flight to Bali and experience the X-houses of Sanur. Don't forget. What happens in Asia, stays in Asia.
Shadow Tech
01-28-18, 20:23
I have an 18 hour layover in Bangkok tomorrow before I go to UAE which is my final destination. This would be my 4th time but my first time alone. So I have booked a hotel near the action, on Soi 7/1 and have planned on hitting the streets as soon as I arrive. I will be arriving in BKK at 10:30 PM.
Any particular places that I should visit?
I have an 18 hour layover in Bangkok tomorrow before I go to UAE which is my final destination. This would be my 4th time but my first time alone. So I have booked a hotel near the action, on Soi 7/1 and have planned on hitting the streets as soon as I arrive. I will be arriving in BKK at 10:30 PM.
Any particular places that I should visit?Obviously Nana Plaza (short walk from where you're staying) plus there are a few good bars on Soi 7/1 that are worth a visit eg. Wood Bar and Dr BJ's. If you're staying in that area you have a huge amount of options within walking distance.
Banana Boi
03-17-18, 05:01
Facial scanning now required to get a SIM card in Thailand. Coinciding with this, another headline in the news today is "7-Eleven in Thailand to start scanning customer's faces".
BIOMETRIC DATA NOW REQUIRED TO BUY A SIM CARD IN THAILAND
According to reports the governments new laws surrounding the purchase of SIM cards here in the kingdom has now gone into force meaning people wishing to purchase one now need to either have their fingerprints recorded or their face scanned, the new measures have caused quite a stir among privacy advocates.
According to the National Broadcasting Telecommunications Commission head Supakarn Boonjan the biometric measures are the final phase of new SIM card registration which came into effect in February.
Speaking about the new registration procedures a spokesman for the NBTC also said it is the governments wish that everyone who has purchased a SIM card prior to the new measures being in place also submit their data, however a means of carrying this out has yet to be established.
The government claims the new measures are to improve security and stability in the kingdom in the wake of unrest in parts of the kingdom over recent years where SIM cards purchased anonymously have been used to carry out crimes and in extreme cases used to detonate bombs such as the Erawan Shrine bomb in 2015.
Many have stressed concerns over privacy of users as a result of the new regulations with some stating authorities could monitor a user’s movements using GPS from their device, though the government has stressed this is not their intention.
According to Supakarn all Pattaya based vendors of SIM cards are now equipped with devices capable of recording the necessary biometric data of both Thai and foreign customers.
Thai citizens will have their fingerprints checked with those taken for their national identification card or their face scanned and checked against the picture on their ID card.
Foreign citizens will have their face scanned and matched against their passport to prove their identity.
I have an 18 hour layover in Bangkok tomorrow before I go to UAE which is my final destination. You could have got better answers by asking well in advance. Tomorrow is very last minute.
Engine Driver
03-27-18, 08:53
There's an urban myth that Thailand has the second highest annual sales rate for Mercedes Benz cars in the world. This myth has been circulating for over 30 years. It's spread to make Thailand look like a rich country. The sales figure for Mercedes cars in Thailand is only a few thousand units a year and they have an assembly plant in the country. The leading countries for Mercedes sales are China, Germany and USA.
Thailand does sell a high number of pickups, second only to the USA.
There's an urban myth that Thailand has the second highest annual sales rate for Mercedes Benz cars in the world. This myth has been circulating for over 30 years. It's spread to make Thailand look like a rich country. The sales figure for Mercedes cars in Thailand is only a few thousand units a year and they have an assembly plant in the country. The leading countries for Mercedes sales are China, Germany and USA.
Thailand does sell a high number of pickups, second only to the USA.You might want to factor in the population, and so sales rate per million persons, otherwise it is a nonsense to compare to China. LOL.
Maybe Thailand does have a lot of wealthy people per million. Not like my country where there is a huge percentage of in between people neither very rich not very poor.
Engine Driver
03-27-18, 12:26
You might want to factor in the population, and so sales rate per million persons, otherwise it is a nonsense to compare to China. LOL.
Maybe Thailand does have a lot of wealthy people per million. Not like my country where there is a huge percentage of in between people neither very rich not very poor.The myth promotes absolute numbers, not per capita.
Engine Driver
03-27-18, 12:32
Can someone tell me why Thais have no commonsense, logic, general knowledge or intellectual curiosity. Is it their poor schooling, culture, laziness or what? Their average IQ of 90 is around 10 points below the average American, which is a lot.
Can someone tell me why Thais have no commonsense, logic, general knowledge or intellectual curiosity. Is it their poor schooling, culture, laziness or what? Their average IQ of 90 is around 10 points below the average American, which is a lot.555. You might be meeting the lower educated part of the population. My dentist clinic had guys with US Qualifications.
I must admit I get astonished by how slow and inefficient Thai workers are, e.g. in the coffee shop, so it is part of the culture.
Thais may only get a distorted view of the world from Farang movies dubbed into Thai. Also where the princess was visiting today, and prime minister's propaganda.
Can you tell me why Americans know so little about other countries? LOL OS News used to be exclusively focussed on where president was visiting today. LOL.
"Do the beaches in my country have any sand? One asked me.
Plenty of posters on this forum could be accused of being quite illogical, and over imaginative of extremes that might happen (but don't).
One bad girl met, and the poster says he will never return to that place. Ha ha. That is what I call emotional and illogical. Can get a bad experience absolutely anywhere. Tempers interfere with sensible thought processes.
Banana Boi
03-28-18, 17:28
Imagine what Thai people think of men in other countries given the quality, or lack thereof, of men visiting Thailand, especially Pattaya.
Can someone tell me why Thais have no commonsense, logic, general knowledge or intellectual curiosity. Is it their poor schooling, culture, laziness or what? Their average IQ of 90 is around 10 points below the average American, which is a lot.I would not venture into such a debate.
Similarly I might not be impressed by the average education and culture in your country.
Thais, and other so called third world, suffer of a wide spread poorness that doesn't help in the development and improvement of the average status, social, economic, cultural.
Nevertheless there are tons of well educated Thais running corporate, establishing businesses, investing into entrepreneurship and sophisticated industries or activities.
The same in other poor countries.
Some sort of laziness belongs to "climate areas". Maybe, a scientist can tell better, a natural defence for the local human kind.
How do you fight the effects of super high humidity, very hot temperatures, if not by slowing down and reduce the resources needed by the body for not challenging it?
Imagine what Thai people think of men in other countries given the quality, or lack thereof, of men visiting Thailand, especially Pattaya.👏128079;128079;128079;128079;128079;128079;.
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Engine Driver
03-30-18, 11:21
Imagine what Thai people think of men in other countries given the quality, or lack thereof, of men visiting Thailand, especially Pattaya.They're probably very envious of them. Able to travel to warm climates, pockets full cash, banging an endless number of hot, young girls, drinking and generally leading a very decadent life!
No seriously, I get what you mean. They would seem to be low class people with no morals, shamelessly and openly cavorting with prostitutes.
Don't forget. What happens in Asia, stays in Asia.Unless perhaps you are British. A number of them seem to make the news periodically.
No seriously, I get what you mean. They would seem to be low class people with no morals, shamelessly and openly cavorting with prostitutes.You got it wrong. Thai men have no qualms about cavorting with prostitutes and low standard of morals (for some views), however more behind closed doors. It is the standard of behaviour of Farangs (and way they dress) that makes them looks bad. Lacking politeness, arrogance, looking for trouble, very loud discussion of things not suitable in public, and the British are champions of loud foul language in my experience here. Then there is the issue of how often foreigners might take a shower to get rid of their stink.
Americans can also be very loud as can the Thais, however it tends to be when having fun and choice of words matters.
I have had to learn to try to be more polite than normal, when someone irritates me.
Engine Driver
04-19-18, 00:16
I saw some footage of the Womens World Cup qualifier match between Thailand and Australia. My god those Thai women were ugly. A team full of butch lesbians. Yikes.
Engine Driver
04-19-18, 00:22
You got it wrong. Thai men have no qualms about cavorting with prostitutes and low standard of morals (for some views), however more behind closed doors. It is the standard of behaviour of Farangs (and way they dress) that makes them looks bad. Lacking politeness, arrogance, looking for trouble, very loud discussion of things not suitable in public, and the British are champions of loud foul language in my experience here. Then there is the issue of how often foreigners might take a shower to get rid of their stink.
No seriously, I get what you mean. They would seem to be low class people with no morals, shamelessly and openly cavorting with prostitutes.I don't know why you corrected me. The key word was "openly" in my statement. I suggest you kindly RTFF properly before being critical of a native English speakers post.
I saw some footage of the Womens World Cup qualifier match between Thailand and Australia. My god those Thai women were ugly. A team full of butch lesbians. Yikes.Could be katoey. And still couldn't best ghe Aussies LOL.
Can someone tell me why Thais have no commonsense, logic, general knowledge or intellectual curiosity. Is it their poor schooling, culture, laziness or what? Their average IQ of 90 is around 10 points below the average American, which is a lot.Can someone tell me why some men walk hand in hand with the girls half their age. It's something for teenagers and looks ridiculous.
Can someone tell me why some men walk hand in hand with the girls half their age. It's something for teenagers and looks ridiculous.Because they do look the same to me and I don't want take the wrong one home LOL. Who cares! Different people like to show different levels of intimacy, do you kiss the girls or let them hug you pre or post coitus? I think you are a younger man and you do not possess the insight to understand. My question to you is why are you looking at old man and not looking at young women?
Can someone tell me why some men walk hand in hand with the girls half their age. It's something for teenagers and looks ridiculous.When I walk around town I leave it to the girl to take my hand, indicate she wants to walk holding hands or not, up to her. 90%+ of the time they transfer whatever they were carrying in the hand on my side to the other hand in order to free it up and reach over to take my hand in theirs. I can't see myself jerking my hand away, recoiling in horror or waving off the attempt because of how it might look to anyone else.
Of course, I will go ahead and initiate it after I have been with a girl 2-3 times and she has made it clear doing it is very much her preference.
So you'd have to ask the girls why they want to be seen walking hand in hand with a man at least twice their age but far more often closer to three times their age.
Because they do look the same to me and I don't want take the wrong one home LOL. Who cares! Different people like to show different levels of intimacy, do you kiss the girls or let them hug you pre or post coitus? I think you are a younger man and you do not possess the insight to understand. My question to you is why are you looking at old man and not looking at young women?"Who cares. " I don't care, but it still looks ridiculous to me (could be a cultural thing). Doesn't even need to be a man twice her age. Walking hand in hand is for young people who are desperately in love. I hope you guys don't fall in love with the girls in Pattaya or you end up buying a herd of water buffaloes.
"I think you are a younger man. " Well, I feel young, but I was born in the 60's.
Why am I "looking at old man and not looking at young women?" There must be something wrong with my eyes, because I see them both and many other things at the same time.
"Because they do look the same to me and I don't want take the wrong one home. " This is a good excuse to walk hand in hand with your rental girlfriend.
So you'd have to ask the girls why they want to be seen walking hand in hand with a man at least twice their age but far more often closer to three times their age.Must be the same reason I always need to know where my wallet is and I don't want to lose it.
"Who cares. " I don't care, but it still looks ridiculous to me (could be a cultural thing). Doesn't even need to be a man twice her age. Walking hand in hand is for young people who are desperately in love. I hope you guys don't fall in love with the girls in Pattaya or you end up buying a herd of water buffaloes.
"I think you are a younger man. " Well, I feel young, but I was born in the 60's.
Why am I "looking at old man and not looking at young women?" There must be something wrong with my eyes, because I see them both and many other things at the same time.
"Because they do look the same to me and I don't want take the wrong one home. " This is a good excuse to walk hand in hand with your rental girlfriend.I don't get the "desperately in love" thing. I think it merely establishes for any potentially interested third parties that we are a romantically involved couple, on a date and not just friends, neighbors or co-workers out for a stroll. Otherwise one or both of you might get hit on with one in-your-face unsolicited hello from an interested third party every 10 minutes.
Which is why doing it is more often the girl's idea than the man's in my opinion. See the wallet comment below. Lol
I don't get the "desperately in love" thing. I think it merely establishes for any potentially interested third parties that we are a romantically involved couple, on a date and not just friends, neighbors or co-workers out for a stroll. Otherwise one or both of you might get hit on with one in-your-face unsolicited hello from an interested third party every 10 minutes.
Which is why doing it is more often the girl's idea than the man's in my opinion. See the wallet comment below. LolHa ha. Not quite establishing a romantic involvement. LOL Maybe a sexual one. However I basically agree.
25 years ago, many Thai girls would not like to hold a Farang's hand. They were shy and it looked too obvious they were hookers. Thai girls walked hand in hand with each other and even Thai guys could walk hand in hand no big deal. Thai guys can share a double bed no big deal even they are not gay and nothing sexual will happen. LOL Two Farang guys, no way! It is just a cultural thing. I have slept in a double bed with a Thai girl (not girlfriend) like brother and sister with no sexual involvement also. Usually this means you know each other very well though.
So, I hit it off online (dating app) w a Thai girl to the point she sent me pretty sexy pics and we even got each other off once via video chat. I was eager to meet her a few months later, when I arrived. Hired a car and driver and picked her up at a public place, we had coffee, then went for lunch and then a long walk and talk by the seaside.
The strange thing was that when we were in the car she held my hand, even played with the hair on my calves in a cute, affectionate way (curious about these hairy farang). I was being very cautious, no intention to fuck her on the first date but sure, assumed it would happen.
When we dropped her close to her house (she didn't yet want me to see her house), I tried to hug her and she recoiled. Texted me later that it was very inappropriate to do that in public! I was dumbstruck: my driver had surely seen her caressing my legs and us holding hands in the car, but not even a hug in public?
This was only two years ago, and she was 29 w an eight year old kid. Long story short she ended up meeting some toothless butterfly Swede in Pattaya and I found out and told her to fuck off. Probably didn't help that I was married and she knoew I wouldn't change that situation for her!
When I walk around town I leave it to the girl to take my hand, indicate she wants to walk holding hands or not, up to her. 90%+ of the time they transfer whatever they were carrying in the hand on my side to the other hand in order to free it up and reach over to take my hand in theirs. I can't see myself jerking my hand away, recoiling in horror or waving off the attempt because of how it might look to anyone else.
Of course, I will go ahead and initiate it after I have been with a girl 2-3 times and she has made it clear doing it is very much her preference.
So you'd have to ask the girls why they want to be seen walking hand in hand with a man at least twice their age but far more often closer to three times their age.
So, I hit it off online (dating app) w a Thai girl to the point she sent me pretty sexy pics and we even got each other off once via video chat. I was eager to meet her a few months later, when I arrived. Hired a car and driver and picked her up at a public place, we had coffee, then went for lunch and then a long walk and talk by the seaside.
The strange thing was that when we were in the car she held my hand, even played with the hair on my calves in a cute, affectionate way (curious about these hairy farang). I was being very cautious, no intention to fuck her on the first date but sure, assumed it would happen.
When we dropped her close to her house (she didn't yet want me to see her house), I tried to hug her and she recoiled. Texted me later that it was very inappropriate to do that in public! I was dumbstruck: my driver had surely seen her caressing my legs and us holding hands in the car, but not even a hug in public?
This was only two years ago, and she was 29 w an eight year old kid. Long story short she ended up meeting some toothless butterfly Swede in Pattaya and I found out and told her to fuck off. Probably didn't help that I was married and she knoew I wouldn't change that situation for her!You know, it's a funny thing about women in general and especially Thai women I believe in that they are actually telegraphing the very weakness they know they are most prone to fall victim to by what they warn men against doing. Can't tell you how often the Thai dating site girl who goes on and on in her profile that she is not here for fun, not here to be our "holiday girlfriend", wants to save herself for that one special serious longterm relationship and so on is quite often the absolute easiest one to get into my room and naked on my bed on the very first meeting, even a midday coffee meeting!
It seems they know very well how easy they are to bed down and therefore try their best to convince you not to go there with them precisely because they know how easily they would fall if you tried. Like it has happened to them time and time again, they know how they are and the only way they might be able to keep up that prim and proper front is if the guy they just met doesn't even try because she has so sternly warned him not to. LOL.
So here is this 29 year old single mom since she was 21 lecturing you on how prim and proper she is about hugging in public yet she meets some toothless monger in Pattaya of all places and flies right into that flame without hesitation. LOL.
So, I hit it off online (dating app) w a Thai girl to the point she sent me pretty sexy pics and we even got each other off once via video chat. I was eager to meet her a few months later, when I arrived. Hired a car and driver and picked her up at a public place, we had coffee, then went for lunch and then a long walk and talk by the seaside.
The strange thing was that when we were in the car she held my hand, even played with the hair on my calves in a cute, affectionate way (curious about these hairy farang). I was being very cautious, no intention to fuck her on the first date but sure, assumed it would happen.
When we dropped her close to her house (she didn't yet want me to see her house), I tried to hug her and she recoiled. Texted me later that it was very inappropriate to do that in public! I was dumbstruck: my driver had surely seen her caressing my legs and us holding hands in the car, but not even a hug in public?
This was only two years ago, and she was 29 w an eight year old kid. Long story short she ended up meeting some toothless butterfly Swede in Pattaya and I found out and told her to fuck off. Probably didn't help that I was married and she knoew I wouldn't change that situation for her!It is totally normal for a Thai girl not to want to hug in public. Your driver seeing you is nothing but she did not want the neighbours to all start gossiping that she is a hooker.
Thai girl with Farang can be assumed to be a hooker. 80%+ of time that will be correct. Not always.
I similarly are reticent to be seen misbehaving with Thai girls where I live. Other Thais do not know how to mind their own business.
Pattaya is a special place where wayward behaviour becomes the norm. She does not care what she is seen doing in Pattaya perhaps. Many Thais like Pattaya because they feel free not to be proper and let their hair down.
Andersson25
05-16-18, 20:28
Thanks for sharing this. Was thinking a lot about this. Would be really nice, for many reasons, to have a work that required business trips to a nice, friendly and warm place. What kind of automotive jobs is good for traveling here? What kind of companies or positions to work in? (you can just hint what company, there aren't to many manufacturers or suppliers I guess).
I'm assuming the supervisor at home is the wife? My work is in the automotive industry and fortunately for me there are a lot of factories around Pattaya and Bangkok so I have a good reason to go even though my position doesn't need me top go LOL. Unfortunately my wife would not allow me to go if it involved a friend in any circumstances because she knows there will be trouble afoot.
Good luck.
Thanks for sharing this. Was thinking a lot about this. Would be really nice, for many reasons, to have a work that required business trips to a nice, friendly and warm place. What kind of automotive jobs is good for traveling here? What kind of companies or positions to work in? (you can just hint what company, there aren't to many manufacturers or suppliers I guess).Hi.
Sorry for the late answer as I don't usually come to this chat. My position is in new car sales and manufactors will have trips to variius locations O / S. For example some of my colleagues have been to Vegas and Paris and Thailand is one of them as well due to a lot os SUVs and Utility vehicles being manufactored there. I tell my wife that I qualified and I'm off for 7 to 8 days with her blessing and I don't have be aware of time zones etc.
I'm gettingvaway this time for only 6 due to changing companies and I have told her I need to go to another majir city here for product training so I have to be on my game regarding time zones etc. If the desire is there you can find a way.
I hooe this helps.
Rob.
This is the most bizarre scene I can recall from all of Anthony Bourdain's many travels. Check out how he checks out the Thai honey in his "dreams" hehehe. RIP Tony!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOIVI3U5B4Y
Banana Boi
11-05-18, 11:38
Translated from Thai language, these forms are available in Pattaya to ALL newbies from Isaan. They are handed out as soon as the girls arrive in Sin City. This is how the Thai girls view foreigners. (Known as the White Book). Thai bar girls commandments.
1. When looking for customers, it is very important to ensure you pick your customer correctly. Thailand have many people who don’t have a lot of money.
2. You have customer, forget all, not worry if he is very ugly, over weight, smells very bad. Always tell your customer that he makes you happy and he is handsome. Important to remember that he has paid the bar, the rest is easy.
3. If customer go home, it’s not the end of your work with them. Get his e-mail address’s and keep in contact with him. This is easy for you to get the customer again when he comes back. If you have contact with him, you can request money from the Farang when he be home. Most Farang have a soft heart. A good way to ask for money is to say you have a sick buffalo. Failing that your mother/father been sick or been pregnant is the best way to ask for money.
4. Farangs are soft, tears from the eyes can make them easy softer. It is important to be able to cry on queue. This will give you a chance getting more presents or money from the Farang. Thai girls need to be a pro and producing crocodile tears on command.
5. Your customer stay longer then 2 nights, you request he take you out for shopping. Gold is an excellent item to get. Makes your customer happy you wear it while he is in Thailand. As soon as he leaves you can sell it at the gold shop.
6. If you working in the bar, and local ex-pats are there, speak in your local dialect. Many Farangs can speak Thai which it make not easy for us. Important that the Thai local and Thai regional dialects remain just for Thai people.
7. Your customer leaving Thailand, go with him to the airport. Many times he will have thousands of baht left over. The Farang be happy to give it to you as he can’t use in his country. When you say good bye, start to cry and ask him for email addresses.
8. You can better have Asian customers. They understand our love to gamble and that we have many sisters and brothers at home who need food. They generally pay more then a Farang do. (Japanese/Korean’s pay very well). –
9. When you leave your customer, ask for Taxi money. Even when you live next door. This help you for another 200-300 baht easily. The Farang complains about your taxi paying, remember the cry on command. This will be your ticket for more money. Explain it is dangerous to walk and you live far away.
10. If you not make money in your chosen city, it’s time to move. Pattaya, Bangkok and Phuket are choices to find the Walking ATM’s, Farangs with money.
This is so funny. Guess some white knight or pimp wrote this up for all the girls now it's their playbook.
This is so funny. Guess some white knight or pimp wrote this up for all the girls now it's their playbook.Wow! This is unbelievable. Can't believe somebody actually put this in writing.
Banana Boi
11-06-18, 08:00
Natty, clear your PM's please.
It is totally normal for a Thai girl not to want to hug in public. Your driver seeing you is nothing but she did not want the neighbours to all start gossiping that she is a hooker.
Thai girl with Farang can be assumed to be a hooker. 80%+ of time that will be correct. Not always.
I similarly are reticent to be seen misbehaving with Thai girls where I live. Other Thais do not know how to mind their own business.
Pattaya is a special place where wayward behaviour becomes the norm. She does not care what she is seen doing in Pattaya perhaps. Many Thais like Pattaya because they feel free not to be proper and let their hair down.Just my opinion but, when nightfalls comes to Bangkok, Thailands' rules on affection in public can be thrown out the window. I met two women who have 'let their hair down". One was named 'Jit'. We were out one night after drinks and dinner. We crossed some bridge near Ploen Chit (or was it Chit Lom?) where she actually grabbed my dick and started stroking it outside my pants. It was a bit after midnight and there was no one hardly in the area. Met another who went by 'Supanya'. She and I left Spice Bar after drinks and getting plastered, We frenched kissed in the taxi all the way to my place. These two women have self-respecting jobs. One works for an embassy, the other works for a travel agency. I tell ya, when nightfall comes to Bangkok, some of these so-called "self-respecting women" REALLY show their true form.
Just my opinion but, when nightfalls comes to Bangkok, Thailands' rules on affection in public can be thrown out the window. I met two women who have 'let their hair down". One was named 'Jit'. We were out one night after drinks and dinner. We crossed some bridge near Ploen Chit (or was it Chit Lom?) where she actually grabbed my dick and started stroking it outside my pants. It was a bit after midnight and there was no one hardly in the area. Met another who went by 'Supanya'. She and I left Spice Bar after drinks and getting plastered, We frenched kissed in the taxi all the way to my place. These two women have self-respecting jobs. One works for an embassy, the other works for a travel agency. I tell ya, when nightfall comes to Bangkok, some of these so-called "self-respecting women" REALLY show their true form.However, they do these things in semi "private" under cover of darkness or in a taxi, not for their co workers or neighbours to see what they are doing. Thais can change from prim and proper to raunchy, especially after consuming a few drinks. Alcohol can transform Thai girls to completely different character.
25 years ago, Thai women dressed modestly and behaved very modestly in public, with Pattaya being the wayward place. Things are clearly changing with modern dress being quite sexy to show off the figure. You will still find plenty of Thai girls act rather shyly out on the street though.
Also many Thai girls are shy to take their clothes off with you watching them with lights on. Some are known to undress in the toilet, or wrap a towel around them before taking off bra and panties. They were trained to do this from childhood.
Agree, they still like to respect the world around them. On TF the girls don't seem to mind if you are married as long as the wife isn't Thai. My semi-regular girl from CM will always overnight with me in Bangkok but never wants to leave the room for fear of being judged. My minibar and room service bill is always high when I see her.
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However, they do these things in semi "private" under cover of darkness or in a taxi, not for their co workers or neighbours to see what they are doing. Thais can change from prim and proper to raunchy, especially after consuming a few drinks. Alcohol can transform Thai girls to completely different character.
25 years ago, Thai women dressed modestly and behaved very modestly in public, with Pattaya being the wayward place. Things are clearly changing with modern dress being quite sexy to show off the figure. You will still find plenty of Thai girls act rather shyly out on the street though.
Also many Thai girls are shy to take their clothes off with you watching them with lights on. Some are known to undress in the toilet, or wrap a towel around them before taking off bra and panties. They were trained to do this from childhood..
Agree, they still like to respect the world around them. On TF the girls don't seem to mind if you are married as long as the wife isn't Thai. My semi-regular girl from CM will always overnight with me in Bangkok but never wants to leave the room for fear of being judged. My minibar and room service bill is always high when I see her.
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.I have found the main concern with Thai girls (dating site or regular, non P4P girls) about your wife being Thai or not is fear that the wife will show up unexpectedly and incite violence. Once I assure them she lives in another part of Bangkok, never comes around without my inviting her over and in fact we almost never see each other for any reason, the new Thai girl relaxes and becomes indifferent about the issue.
I just tell them she's European (true) and they say "good".
I have found the main concern with Thai girls (dating site or regular, non P4P girls) about your wife being Thai or not is fear that the wife will show up unexpectedly and incite violence. Once I assure them she lives in another part of Bangkok, never comes around without my inviting her over and in fact we almost never see each other for any reason, the new Thai girl relaxes and becomes indifferent about the issue.
I have found the main concern with Thai girls (dating site or regular, non P4P girls) about your wife being Thai or not is fear that the wife will show up unexpectedly and incite violence. Once I assure them she lives in another part of Bangkok, never comes around without my inviting her over and in fact we almost never see each other for any reason, the new Thai girl relaxes and becomes indifferent about the issue.Absolutely! Gik is scared my Thai GF will show up. I explain GF is in another province and cannot possibly come here. She is scared in case GF knows where I am staying, and will make the long trip to catch me. She is not scared about her BF showing up since she does not think about the possibility of being followed by a hired dectective. That is actually the more likely scenario, relatively speaking.
I think Thai girls are considered more scary than Farangs though, whether warranted or not.
However, they do these things in semi "private" under cover of darkness or in a taxi, not for their co workers or neighbours to see what they are doing. Thais can change from prim and proper to raunchy, especially after consuming a few drinks. Alcohol can transform Thai girls to completely different character.
25 years ago, Thai women dressed modestly and behaved very modestly in public, with Pattaya being the wayward place. Things are clearly changing with modern dress being quite sexy to show off the figure. You will still find plenty of Thai girls act rather shyly out on the street though.
Also many Thai girls are shy to take their clothes off with you watching them with lights on. Some are known to undress in the toilet, or wrap a towel around them before taking off bra and panties. They were trained to do this from childhood.I still remember a showgirl years ago I took who did the lesbian show, back in the room, lights off and towel on LOL.
Only a week left before I go to Thailand. Is the following airport arrival process correct?
BTW I'm American flying roundtrip form JFK to BKK on airchina for a weeks duration.
Before I land I'm given a immigration form that I fill out.
Plane disembarks, I walk to immigration show them my passport and form.
I show them my proof of onward travel (Would my flight itinerary suffice?) and he gives me a stamp on my passport.
Since I'm only staying for a week and American I don't have to worry about visa on arrival, health control, or showing my proof of income.
Then I go find my luggage and buy a sim card.
Is there anything I'm missing or that I have to do before arriving to Thailand?
Banana Boi
11-10-18, 05:49
I show them my proof of onward travel (Would my flight itinerary suffice?) and he gives me a stamp on my passport.
Since I'm only staying for a week and American I don't have to worry about visa on arrival, health control, or showing my proof of income.
Is there anything I'm missing or that I have to do before arriving to Thailand?I've never been asked to show proof of a flight leaving Thailand. Never been asked this either but you may need to show proof of where you are staying for at least the first night. If you have chosen to stay at an AirBNB be prepared to book a cheap hostel in the middle of nowhere for a night. There is free wifi at BKK. I don't know anyone who has been asked this but technically you are supposed to be carrying 20,000 Thai baht on you when you enter Thailand. Showing money in a bank account is not proof enough if someone does not want you to enter Thailand. Be prepared to tell them an elaborate story like your cousin Monkeypaw does if you get hassled. If you are only staying a week I suggest getting a 399 baht prepaid travel SIM from AIS that is good for 8 days. Prebook your taxi if you are coming to Pattaya. RTFF if you have questions about taxis or buses. No need to ask on here again.
I've never been asked to show proof of a flight leaving Thailand. Never been asked this either but you may need to show proof of where you are staying for at least the first night. If you have chosen to stay at an AirBNB be prepared to book a cheap hostel in the middle of nowhere for a night. There is free wifi at BKK. I don't know anyone who has been asked this but technically you are supposed to be carrying 20,000 Thai baht on you when you enter Thailand. Showing money in a bank account is not proof enough if someone does not want you to enter Thailand. Be prepared to tell them an elaborate story like your cousin Monkeypaw does if you get hassled. If you are only staying a week I suggest getting a 399 baht prepaid travel SIM from AIS that is good for 8 days. Prebook your taxi if you are coming to Pattaya. RTFF if you have questions about taxis or buses. No need to ask on here again.It is common place in the city you are flying to Thailand from, to need evidence that you have a return flight out of Thailand, if it is not on same ticket. Mine usually isn't on same ticket. Itinerary is usually good enough. Same at Bangkok airport. Their computer will show your return leg, unless its on a separate ticket.
Normally tourists get two free entries per year where no evidence of money, accommodation, or anything is required. However they could potentially want to see these things if you do far too many free 30 day entries per year. I am on my 3rd for the last year, also some Visa entries, but next time back home, will apply for a 6 month multi entry Visa, to be safer. What questions get asked depends a lot on luck of which person is encountered at the airport immigration check.
30 day entries can be extended to 60 at Immigration in Chaeng Wattana for 1900 Baht.
The real reason for crack down on number of free entries per year, is just to make us pay for a Visa.
For the land border crossings, the reasons for crackdown are maybe a little different.
Normally tourists get two free entries per year I thought it was six times. Has this changed (once again)?
I thought it was six times. Has this changed (once again)?I sure hope it's still 6 times.
When I left Thailand about 8 or 10 days ago it was my 4th visit this year.
I'm going back next week for a shorter visit and then back again around Christmas.
When I arrive at Christmas it will be the 6th entry this year, but I plan to stay for 90 days so Visa is required.
I've never been asked to show proof of a flight leaving Thailand. Never been asked this either but you may need to show proof of where you are staying for at least the first night. If you have chosen to stay at an AirBNB be prepared to book a cheap hostel in the middle of nowhere for a night. There is free wifi at BKK. I don't know anyone who has been asked this but technically you are supposed to be carrying 20,000 Thai baht on you when you enter Thailand.I've never been asked to show proof of where I'm staying. Be aware though, if it's your first time visiting Thailand, that you have to fill in the name and address of the (first) place where you're staying on the immigration form. So be sure you have that information somewhere (on your phone or printed out) as you enter the plane.
I've never been asked to show I'm carrying 20,000 baht either, or the equivalent of that in another currency.
If you have round trip ticket flying into Bangkok, they will not ask you because it is round trip. My experience is that the airline will not let you board the plan if you don't have return ticket.
The arrival card has a question about where you are staying. I just put down something like "Hilton, Bangkok" and that is sufficient. There are usually a few ladies in front of the custom queue checking for this. One time, I only wrote down "Hilton" and the custom official asked which city.
I thought it was six times. Has this changed (once again)?The 2 times limit does not apply to entry by air.
I don't know anyone who has been asked this but technically you are supposed to be carrying 20,000 Thai baht on you when you enter Thailand. Showing money in a bank account is not proof enough if someone does not want you to enter Thailand.The last 15 years I've been coming to Thailand, I have NEVER been required to carry that large amount of cash on me. That's 600 USD!.
The last 15 years I've been coming to Thailand, I have NEVER been required to carry that large amount of cash on me. That's 600 USD!.Well if they ask you what are you going to do. And folks are getting asked and turned away. Especially frequent travelers.
Banana Boi
11-11-18, 04:37
The last 15 years I've been coming to Thailand, I have NEVER been required to carry that large amount of cash on me. That's 600 USD!.Because this rule only came in to effect last year. As Nyezhov says, it has been enforced when the immigration officer wants it to be and there are actually many stories of people being turned away. Don't you have to bring at least 600 USD for your vacation anyways?
Because this rule only came in to effect last year. As Nyezhov says, it has been enforced when the immigration officer wants it to be and there are actually many stories of people being turned away. Don't you have to bring at least 600 USD for your vacation anyways?I'm assuming that cash in any currency equilivent to US $ 600 is sufficient? In almost 20 years traveling to Asia have I been asked for proof of funds and rarely for hotel name.
Crazy4Thai
11-11-18, 05:33
I'm assuming that cash in any currency equilivent to US $ 600 is sufficient? In almost 20 years traveling to Asia have I been asked for proof of funds and rarely for hotel name.That is correct. If you follow some other forums that are about visas etc, you will see that being turned away is happening with some frequency. I was having a beer next to a guy who had just arrived from London. All was in order, including the minimum cash topic. They pulled him aside and told him he could not get in. They were not specific as to why. It was a long drawn out process of going through every page of his passport. Then the "good cop" took him aside and said "I would let you in but my co-workers will be mad at me" (I have read this very same thing before) Ultimately they deported him after 10 or 12 hours in detention. The reason marked in his passport was insufficient funds. As he tries to understand what happened he thinks perhaps the "good cop" was indirectly asking for a bribe. Which would have been a bargain compared to booking another flight and all the BS. He entered with no drama the 2nd time.
Because this rule only came in to effect last year. As Nyezhov says, it has been enforced when the immigration officer wants it to be and there are actually many stories of people being turned away. Don't you have to bring at least 600 USD for your vacation anyways?I always have but it's on my VISA and MC. I'm just surprised NOW that this has been brought to my attention after all this time!. I honestly did not know.
Well if they ask you what are you going to do. And folks are getting asked and turned away. Especially frequent travelers.Well, after reading all the info about the requirements to enter Thailand, I guess I'll have too. Seems the issue is with frequent travelers as well as the 'begpackers' and illegals. I have been humbled on simply not knowing.
Thank you both for the heads up on this matter.
Speaking of visas, it was well reported that the U. K. Embassy will no longer issue notarized income verification forms for long stay/retirement visas. But note that, as of January 1, 2019, neither will the USA Embassy.
I have not yet read what one must bring to Thai Immigration in order to prove to them that you are receiving the minimum about of baht per month (65,000 as of this writing). But for those choosing the, I think, 800,000 baht deposited in a Thai bank option, I suppose showing up with your Thai bank passbook will suffice. Again, I have not yet read what documents do or do not need to be notarized or brought to Thai Immigration since this change has been made.
Anybody else read what needs to be done or shown to prove your income now? Tax reports? How far back? Notarized or not? Letters from USA?
That is correct. If you follow some other forums that are about visas etc, you will see that being turned away is happening with some frequency. I was having a beer next to a guy who had just arrived from London. All was in order, including the minimum cash topic. They pulled him aside and told him he could not get in. They were not specific as to why. It was a long drawn out process of going through every page of his passport. Then the "good cop" took him aside and said "I would let you in but my co-workers will be mad at me" (I have read this very same thing before) Ultimately they deported him after 10 or 12 hours in detention. The reason marked in his passport was insufficient funds. As he tries to understand what happened he thinks perhaps the "good cop" was indirectly asking for a bribe. Which would have been a bargain compared to booking another flight and all the BS. He entered with no drama the 2nd time.3rd visit in 12 months coming up in February. Probably not excessive but I will keep some $10 and $20 notes just in case a cop needs a "drink".
Anybody else read what needs to be done or shown to prove your income now? Tax reports? How far back? Notarized or not? Letters from USA?Got my one-year extension in March through an agency. Agency fee 12k including multiple entry. Only document needed was a letter from my thai bank stating I had had the 800k on my account for 2 months. Passbook didn't suffice as it might not be up to date. Bank letter had to be from the same day the application reached immigration.
Better for embassies not to be involved as it might put ideas into the head of the taxman in one's home country.
I thought it was six times. Has this changed (once again)?Yes it has changed. Consulates in other countries are using the 2 free entries per year line. Obviously applies to flying since there is no other way from my consulate location. Previously I used to do 7 entries in a year no problem (all by air).
Then they started asking questions at BKK airport and suggesting I apply for a Visa in future, which I did. Got 6 month multi-entry VISAs which are unfortunately available only from the country of your passport.
Since my 6 month VISA expired and I did not want to go home, I have had 2 free entries. Consulate in Djakarta actually advised me not to apply for a VISA because takes them several days and they need proof of Hotel booking, money in bank etc. Stupid really since I did not know how many days would take them and when I would be able to fly back in. Had to take my chances with another freebie.
Technically there is no law to say we cannot get another free entry. Best to have evidence of outward flight inside the 30 days, hotel booking, 20000 Baht in cash. Should not be kicked out if all is in order.
Once in for 30 day, can apply for the extension to 60 days (cost 1900 baht), but must be done before 30 days expires and must be aware office is closed on govt official public holidays and weekends.
Official advise though is apply for VISAs (single entry 60 days extendable to 90), or multi-entry 6 month, or longer term, if want to come in more than 2 times per year. They want our money.
I am aware of a guy who says he keeps coming in again without a VISA from Laos, but carrying suitable evidence. He hasn't been stopped from entering as YET. However we get into areas of uncertainty.
I will probably apply for a new VISA for next entry, to be safe.
Yes it has changed. Consulates in other countries are using the 2 free entries per year line. Obviously applies to flying since there is no other way from my consulate location. Previously I used to do 7 entries in a year no problem (all by air).I am already over the limit this year and I have not been questioned. I stayed only a few days each time which can be the difference.
I think the limit is designed to limit visa runs. It does not make sense to limit the number of entries for people who just want to spend the weekends. Plenty of Japanese and Koreans are doing it this way.
I am already over the limit this year and I have not been questioned. I stayed only a few days each time which can be the difference.
I think the limit is designed to limit visa runs. It does not make sense to limit the number of entries for people who just want to spend the weekends. Plenty of Japanese and Koreans are doing it this way.Yes I agree. Very short stays maybe be scarcely counted, especially brief transit stopovers. Others are staying 60 days at a time. Coming in on a return ticket helps as others mentioned.
My understanding is the government wants to make some VISA money out of us types that stay for long periods (in total), and prevent any foreigners who have no visible means of support other than by criminal activities. Not everything the military govt. Does, has to really make sense.
I heard that Lao persons here whose passport ran out (very common), can go to the Laos embassy and get (same day) a permit to exit back to Laos. Supposedly extremely busy despite charging 5000 Baht for it, and then they have to pay police extra on both sides of the border. So Laos embassy is ripping off their own people.
A lot of illegal Laos workers here, Cambodian, Myanmar, etc. Some legal ones too. My Hotel seemed to be hiring Cambodians to clean the rooms.
Just read that G7 (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, United Kingdom, United States) countries can get 30 days free on entry by land or sea, or air. Some other countries only get 30 days by air and 15 by land.
I believe I read about a limit to land crossings per year, before will be deemed excessive "Visa Runs", and then future entry banned. Therefore recommend all Visa Runs or re-entries be by air. This is probably to keep out rif raf with no visible means of support likely to be working illegally. Maybe be possible to avoid these difficulties with bribes for border police.
Bernie Sanders says if he's elected president he will decriminalize sex work in the US. Who's for Bernie? That will have a significant effect on the tourism industry in third world countries, especially Thailand. Think of Thailand without US mongers. Imagine publicly advertised and widely available brothels in every town and city in the US. Imagine a concomitant significantly reduced price per hour due to competition (US $100 per hour?). Can the good old days return?
Bernie Sanders says if he's elected president he will decriminalize sex work in the US. Who's for Bernie? That will have a significant effect on the tourism industry in third world countries, especially Thailand. Think of Thailand without US mongers. Imagine publicly advertised and widely available brothels in every town and city in the US. Imagine a concomitant significantly reduced price per hour due to competition (US $100 per hour?). Can the good old days return?My tax bracket in the US is 28% right now with Trump. With Bernie, it would likely jump to over 50%. Sorry, but money saved on paying less tax is more important to me than something trivial like legalized brothels in the USA. Sex work in Australia is legal. Have you ever been to an Aussie brothel? Sucks. It would suck in the USA as well. I do believe that sex work should be decriminalized in the USA, but it's not worth voting for Bernie or any Democrat (or socialist, or democratic socialist) in order to get it. And it would still be better to use the money you save on taxes to fly to Thailand than to utilize the services of a brothel in the USA or Australia. You haven't noticed a lack of Aussies visiting Thailand for sex have you?
My tax bracket in the US is 28% right now with Trump. With Bernie, it would likely jump to over 50%. Sorry, but money saved on paying less tax is more important to me than something trivial like legalized brothels in the USA. Sex work in Australia is legal. Have you ever been to an Aussie brothel? Sucks. It would suck in the USA as well. I do believe that sex work should be decriminalized in the USA, but it's not worth voting for Bernie or any Democrat (or socialist, or democratic socialist) in order to get it. And it would still be better to use the money you save on taxes to fly to Thailand than to utilize the services of a brothel in the USA or Australia. You haven't noticed a lack of Aussies visiting Thailand for sex have you?Your tax bracket is irrelevant, It is what is your standard of living that is important. Believe it or not people in many countries have no desire to live in the US because they have standards of living that are equal to or higher or even lower without the crime, social inequality and downright pettiness of US politics.
Your tax bracket is irrelevant, It is what is your standard of living that is important. Believe it or not people in many countries have no desire to live in the US because they have standards of living that are equal to or higher or even lower without the crime, social inequality and downright pettiness of US politics.Please name one of these countries. And keep in mind they need to have a population of at least close to 300 million like the USA and as diverse a population as the USA. Small countries, and countries with little diversification in their population have far less issues to deal with.
There is no better country in the world to live right now than the USA under the Trump administration. The economy is rocking! I took an extra trip to Thailand this year with my tax break.
I agree with you about disliking the pettiness of US politics, but at the moment, almost all of the pettiness is on the Democrat side of things.
Please name one of these countries. And keep in mind they need to have a population of at least close to 300 million like the USA and as diverse a population as the USA. Small countries, and countries with little diversification in their population have far less issues to deal with.
There is no better country in the world to live right now than the USA under the Trump administration. The economy is rocking! I took an extra trip to Thailand this year with my tax break.
I agree with you about disliking the pettiness of US politics, but at the moment, almost all of the pettiness is on the Democrat side of things.Right on, Smoothy!
Well, I do agree with that.
To stay on topic, here's a girl I had sex with recently in Thailand with my tax refund.I feel ya. Thanks to the Trump economy, my Investment advisor tells me I can do a Penthouse if I want when I show up for the staying-in-Thailand-season. The exchange rate sucks but hey, its the good with the bad.
Well, I do agree with that.
To stay on topic, here's a girl I had sex with recently in Thailand with my tax refund.Nice. Do you have any photos if the girls you had sex with in Thailand during the various massive Republican administration Recessions, property and stock market Crashes? I would include the massive Democratic administration Recessions and Crashes, but as I am pushing 70 in a few years, it turns out there haven't been any in my lifetime except for a very short one, barely 2 quarters long, in early 1980. Otherwise, they have produced mostly recoveries and expansions from the Recessions and Crashes they invariably inherited from the outgoing Republican administrations. Not being petty, really. Just looking at the remarkably consistent historical record on those things.
BTW, I am not a Bernie fan, but his proposed tax plan kicks in at 28%, your top rate, at the same income level it is today. The 52% rate does not kick in until you reach $10,000,001 of taxable income. So anyone who can now afford to travel to Thailand to have sex ought to be able to swing it from 2021 forward and make plans accordingly even if Bernie wins and gets his way with the tax code. Not factoring in whatever massive Recession and Crash history strongly suggests he might inherit, that is.
Member #4698
07-11-19, 03:29
Here we go again. Someone on your side started it up again for no Goddamn reason. Then someone on my side responded, then someone on your side, and now you have responded to their responses.
The time before it was a different BM on your team who started it over in the PI forum and finally after way too much back and forth BS everything was deleted as will be the case here.
So can we just cut to the chase and not go there again? Is that not possible? Or does it have to get dumb and stupid first? I don't care what side you are on. Stay on topic!
There is no better country in the world to live right now than the USA under the Trump administration. s.No better country "to live" in? No better country to make money in! So long as that money continues to be spendable elsewhere. But, best to live? Not so much.
Robert Long
07-11-19, 06:40
I feel ya. Thanks to the Trump economy, my Investment advisor tells me I can do a Penthouse if I want when I show up for the staying-in-Thailand-season. The exchange rate sucks but hey, its the good with the bad.Have you seen the price of a Penthouse in Bkk? A simple condo unit, 30 sq meters is 12.5-16 million THB. I stayed in one on Soi 24. They are still selling the units so I asked at the sales counter. This is not a penthouse. 30 sq meters is an insult to most of us from the west. BTW 15 M thb is $484,000.
I asked her who is buying these? She said Thai businessmen that have houses outside of Bkk and do not want to commute except for weekends. I think Chinese are buying also. In Honolulu we have many new condo towers with condos that run as high as $35,000,000.00 and they say they are almost sold out. But at night only a few have lights on. Speculators that are hoping to make a profit when the price goes up.
And think about the Thb at an all time high. Penthouses as well as Pussy is at a Premium.
RL.
I feel ya. Thanks to the Trump economy, my Investment advisor tells me I can do a Penthouse if I want when I show up for the staying-in-Thailand-season. The exchange rate sucks but hey, its the good with the bad.Oh, please don't tell us your investment advisor was advising you to steer clear of buying and investing at the beginning of the Clinton and Obama economies. If so, you need to dump him and find a better investment advisor.
Franciscass
07-11-19, 07:51
Here we go again. Someone on your side started it up again for no Goddamn reason. Then someone on my side responded, then someone on your side, and now you have responded to their responses.
The time before it was a different BM on your team who started it over in the PI forum and finally after way too much back and forth BS everything was deleted as will be the case here.
So can we just cut to the chase and not go there again? Is that not possible? Or does it have to get dumb and stupid first? I don't care what side you are on. Stay on topic!Good luck to anybody trying to police the forum.
Supposedly ISG is an open platform for guidance and sharing information on sex services in different countries. Let's be honest it's often a soapbox for members airing their opinions on a wide variety of issues, political, social and cultural.
Personally I use the ignore button to filter out what I know from experience will be mere navel gazing, misogynistic or a doom and gloom view of the world.
I do enjoy reading some member's posts even when there are not on message because they can be entertainingly humorous and well written.
The current conversation on Trump is interesting in how it divides his supporters and detractors and their corresponding views on P4P.
Please name one of these countries. And keep in mind they need to have a population of at least close to 300 million like the USA and as diverse a population as the USA. Small countries, and countries with little diversification in their population have far less issues to deal with.
There is no better country in the world to live right now than the USA under the Trump administration. The economy is rocking! I took an extra trip to Thailand this year with my tax break.
I agree with you about disliking the pettiness of US politics, but at the moment, almost all of the pettiness is on the Democrat side of things.Australia, Canada, half of Europe.
Here we go again. ...... I don't care what side you are on. Stay on topic!Well said.
+1.
Oh, please don't tell us your investment advisor was advising you to steer clear of buying and investing at the beginning of the Clinton and Obama economies. If so, you need to dump him and find a better investment advisor.The end of Obama's first term was the best time to buy a house in the USA because housing prices were at their lowest. But as far as having surplus money to invest internationally, that just happened recently under Trump due to his tax breaks and lifting regulations on businesses (unless you already had a bunch of cash in the stock market). Now is not a good time to invest in real estate in the USA because housing prices have sky rocketed since Trump was elected, but it is a good time to invest Internationally.
Here's a pic of a chick I met in front of Nana hotel recently.
Oh, please don't tell us your investment advisor was advising you to steer clear of buying and investing at the beginning of the Clinton and Obama economies. If so, you need to dump him and find a better investment advisor.I did good under Clinton and crappy under Obama. I don't let other peoples TDS take the smile off my face, enjoy yourself! Oh and thanks for your advice, perhaps you have a good private banker to recommend to me?
The end of Obama's first term was the best time to buy a house in the USA because housing prices were at their lowest. But as far as having surplus money to invest internationally, that just happened recently under Trump due to his tax breaks and lifting regulations on businesses (unless you already had a bunch of cash in the stock market). Now is not a good time to invest in real estate in the USA because housing prices have sky rocketed since Trump was elected, but it is a good time to invest Internationally.
Here's a pic of a chick I met in front of Nana hotel recently.Why are people investing internationally rather than in the USA with all that surplus money they got from those USA tax breaks and eliminating regulations? As of this writing, the USA Stock Market has only gained a paltry annualized 6% or so since that tax cut legislation was passed 1 1/2 years ago and only an annualized 13% or so since January 20, 2017. Maybe it is because the USA created almost 1 million fewer jobs in the past 29 months vs the previous 29 months and annualized real GDP growth is not meaningfully improved in the past couple of years despite adding $2+Trillion to the deficit trying to buy an improvement.
It can't really be because illegal immigration crossings have skyrocketed in the past couple of years vs what they were in the 8 years prior, can it?
I don't know who is buying all these new Condominiums in BKK and Pattaya. The developers must be making a fortune. But it looks like a real estate bubble in the making to me. Too much supply at too high a cost. Of course no one knows when the market will top out. I sure don't want to be left holding the bag (any Thai real estate) when the market collapses. But in the meantime, it looks like there are lot of excellent rental opportunities in these new buildings with all the amenities and in great neighborhoods. Time to rent if you ask me.+1. That has been my observation, too. Plus, prognostications re the birth rate suggests there will be fewer people living in Thailand 20 years from now than today. The population is declining while all these condo projects are being built. Of course, more and more Thais will likely be moving from the outer provinces into Bangkok as education and income levels improve, I suppose. I have not bought in Thailand. For one thing, I don't want to be saddled with what to do with a condo that might stand empty for months if not years without a renter should I decide to live somewhere else. And I still have rental property in the USA that I'd rather deal with and profit from in that regard.
Guys, good to have as many different sources of income as possible if you're going to weather all kinds of possible goofiness in markets and the economy on your way to a comfy retirement boffing 20 something year olds in Thailand.
Thailand has high strategic value to the Chinese government. As such, the Chinese have been launching a charm offensive in Thailand for quite some time now. Chinese money has been flooding Bangkok in the form of tourists, students and investors. I suspect the Chinese government has even made it easier for Chinese investors to invest in Thai properties.
Why are people investing internationally rather than in the USA with all that surplus money they got from those USA tax breaks and eliminating regulations? As of this writing, the USA Stock Market has only gained a paltry annualized 6% or so since that tax cut legislation was passed 1 1/2 years ago and only an annualized 13% or so since January 20, 2017. Maybe it is because the USA created almost 1 million fewer jobs in the past 29 months vs the previous 29 months and annualized real GDP growth is not meaningfully improved in the past couple of years despite adding $2+Trillion to the deficit trying to buy an improvement.
It can't really be because illegal immigration crossings have skyrocketed in the past couple of years vs what they were in the 8 years prior, can it?Have things really gotten worse in the US under Trump? Back to mongering, our hobby has certainly deteriorated in the US under Trump although I thought it would have improved given his history. I guess I'm being naive in my hopefulness for the decriminalization of sex work in the US and would just follow up on my plans to live in Thailand.
Have things really gotten worse in the US under Trump? Back to mongering, our hobby has certainly deteriorated in the US under Trump although I thought it would have improved given his history. I guess I'm being naive in my hopefulness for the decriminalization of sex work in the US and would just follow up on my plans to live in Thailand.Worse? That isn'tt the word I would use regarding the general USA economy. We're in the 11th year of the longest bull market and uninterrupted economic expansion and job growth in USA history. They began in early March 2009 and June of that same year, respectively.
We are not in the 3rd year of either one. We are in the 11th year of them. The trajectory of those metrics did not change dramatically on January 20, 2017 or, more pertinent in terms of judging the effectiveness or not of an administration's stewardship, December 22, 2017. That was when their first and so far only significant economic legislation was signed and passed. They have so far underperformed what came before on the important metrics I cited, but we are still doing okay.
However, I would say other factors that might or might not have an impact on funding our hobby in the near term or in retirement, such as foreign relations and diplomacy, national security, trade deals and border control are faring worse.
Western countries economic influence on mongering doesn't hinge on the daily financial or stock markets.
An unfavorable exchange rate has an immediate affect.
Higher airline tickets will have an immediate affect.
Aging mongers unable to get it up will have an immediate affect.
Long term down stock market will adversely affect retirement money, thus lack of mongers in the future.
Franciscass
07-12-19, 00:56
Western countries economic influence on mongering doesn't hinge on the daily financial or stock markets.
An unfavorable exchange rate has an immediate affect.
Higher airline tickets will have an immediate affect.
Aging mongers unable to get it up will have an immediate affect.
Long term down stock market will adversely affect retirement money, thus lack of mongers in the future.From Thai Visa.
A leading tourism official has confirmed what many Pattaya residents have suspected for a long time.
The days of Europeans visiting Pattaya in large numbers for the entertainment industry are gone.
The strength of the baht, alternatives elsewhere and the rise of Chinese and now Indian tourism has seen a marked shift on who is coming to Pattaya and what they are doing there.
Secretary of the Entertainment Industry and Tourism Association of Pattaya Damrongkiat Phinitkarn gave Sophon TV some frank and damning statistics about the low season in Pattaya this year. Down 20% to 30%.
I did good under Clinton and crappy under Obama. I don't let other peoples TDS take the smile off my face, enjoy yourself! Oh and thanks for your advice, perhaps you have a good private banker to recommend to me?No, I don't use a private banker or investment advisor for these things. But if I did I would keep it fee only, not commission based. To have done crappy during the Obama years would have required serious effort in my opinion. Those first couple of months before his first proposed major economic legislation was passed were certainly painful since, as is always the case with a new incoming administration, the economy and markets continue to go in the same direction they were already going until shortly after that first major legislation is passed.
But after that, early in his presidency, you would have had to ignore almost every important economic report and believe the self-serving blather of his political opposition for the next 8 years to have missed some massive gains. Even the critical housing market, which finally found a floor below which overall prices did not continue to freefall in the Crash by March 2011, was a great place to invest. It sounds as though your advisor kept you on the sidelines watching gains on almost all fronts for about 10 years until just now. Or maybe he advised you to jump out at the bottom, a move a lot of people made. Recovery from a disastrous move like that is very difficult.
I don't see another massive Recession and Crash on the near horizon. So there is still some life left in this bull market, imo. Corrections possible, yes. But there is nothing in the economy we had as of January or December 2017 to reasonably suggest a Recession or Crash is right around the corner.The slow and steady recovery from a very scary historic downturn made the current economy quite strong and resilient. Thankfully. And stock markets tend to grow just fine in the absence of Recessions. Of couse, anyone in a position of power with a determination to drive us into another economic and market Crash can certainly do so or at least inflict plenty of damage in the effort. That is what we need to be mindful of now more than ever, imo.
No better country "to live" in? No better country to make money in! So long as that money continues to be spendable elsewhere. But, best to live? Not so much.Haha, I'm with ya! Only because of the girl situation.
Franciscass
07-12-19, 07:37
Just wondering, has anybody else had these thoughts.
Some 20 years ago I cashed out and moved here at around 50 to the Euro. Now I can buy back for less than 35. That together with accumulated capital gains which excepting property (even there its more than manageable) are mostly tax free I have considered moving back better heeled, where there is no immigration rigmarole, good health care is free and the air is cleaner but then I think of what I would be leaving, the ladies, the massages, the food, the warmth and spirituality of the people and the buzz of Bangkok and I say nay not now maybe later.
Hi guys,
An older (45) thai lady hit me up on Thai Cupid for a date. Actually she wants to marry but I said one thing at a time. Ordinarily I would ignore her based on age alone but she looks pretty good for 45 (I'm 63) and she showed me her gorgeous 40 Eee tits on skype. She owns some beach property in Prachaud and wants to know if I marry her am I interested in building a house there when I retire in three years. I swear I am not making this up. I will meet her in Bangkok where she works in September. Regular Thai ladies are very bossy though, aren't they? And like to control the money and everything. At least that's what I've seen on youtube testimonials. I think I prefer the more docile Filipinas which I know much more about because I go there more often. However J am curious if anyone has run into a situation like this and has any advice other than go slow and ask a lot of questions. Cheers.
No, I don't use a private banker or investment advisor for these things. But if I did I would keep it fee only, not commission based. To have done crappy during the Obama years would have required serious effort in my opinion. Well your opinion pales to the professional advice I receive and the results of said advice both now and then. But hey, lets just all Enjoy Thailand, some I reckon more extravagantly than others.
To have done crappy during the Obama years would have required serious effort in my opinion. The industry I am in suffered greatly during the Obama admin due to the superfluous regulations he instituted via executive order. Our company had to fire all non essential staff back then. Many of my buddies who worked as consultants were considering retirement back then. Now business is great.
The industry I am in suffered greatly during the Obama admin due to the superfluous regulations he instituted via executive order. Our company had to fire all non essential staff back then. Many of my buddies who worked as consultants were considering retirement back then. Now business is great.Not to downplay your company's plight, but I am sure some industries suffered as a result of the measures FDR took while pulling the rest of the country out of The Great Depression and setting up conditions that put markets back on track for gains rather than continued losses. That is not as dissimilar to the challenge Obama faced on January 20, 2009 as some seem to think. There will always be industries that suffer when drastic measures are called for.
I don't know what kind of regulations were put in place, but I am guessing they were put in there for a reason having to do with a greater economc (or environmental?) goal and not just for the hell of it.
And looking at it another way; now that your industry's regulations in question were eliminated (presumably by a Trump Executive Order) along with hundreds if not thousands of others, there is no evidence in the data that our overall economy is roaring along better and far surpassing what we were experiencing when those regulations were in place. If anything, the data show we are doing less well now on most economic fronts, jobs creation being one of them. Your industry being among the exceptions.
Not to downplay your company's plight, but I am sure some industries suffered as a result of the measures FDR took while pulling the rest of the country out of The Great Depression and setting up conditions that put markets back on track for gains rather than continued losses. That is not as dissimilar to the challenge Obama faced on January 20, 2009 as some seem to think. There will always be industries that suffer when drastic measures are called for.
I don't know what kind of regulations were put in place, but I am guessing they were put in there for a reason having to do with a greater economc (or environmental?) goal and not just for the hell of it.
And looking at it another way; now that your industry's regulations in question were eliminated (presumably by a Trump Executive Order) along with hundreds if not thousands of others, there is no evidence in the data that our overall economy is roaring along better and far surpassing what we were experiencing when those regulations were in place. If anything, the data show we are doing less well now on most economic fronts, jobs creation being one of them. Your industry being among the exceptions.I think you may be off with that one. The job market now is better than it has ever been and salaries are going up now over what they were prior to Trump. Salaries were stagnating during the Obama years and the jobs he was "creating" were government funded and minimum wage jobs. Trump's policies are actually helping the private sector. Recent college graduates can now get a job fresh out of school much more easily than they could just a few years ago.
If you seriously don't know what regulations where put in place, you might want to check that out. It was absurd. I think he may actually have been anti-American. His policies helped the rest of the world more than they helped the USA.
I think you may be off with that one. The job market now is better than it has ever been and salaries are going up now over what they were prior to Trump. Salaries were stagnating during the Obama years and the jobs he was "creating" were government funded and minimum wage jobs. Trump's policies are actually helping the private sector. Recent college graduates can now get a job fresh out of school much more easily than they could just a few years ago.
If you seriously don't know what regulations where put in place, you might want to check that out. It was absurd. I think he may actually have been anti-American. His policies helped the rest of the world more than they helped the USA.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/07/05/trump-is-falling-almost-1-million-jobs-short-vs-obama/#648d27b98caa
"Trump Is Falling Almost 1 Million Jobs Short Vs. Obama"
"Job growth is slowing down"
(see chart)
"Not the best economy ever
The underlying economy is weaker than perceived when you look at March quarters GDP numbers and railroad traffic taking a significant downward move over the past month."
Fake news?
...salaries are going up now over what they were prior to Trump.Yes, and particularly among lower wage workers. On the one hand because we entered the range of "Full Employment" generally considered to be in the area of a 6% Unemployment Rate or less by late 2014. If it remains there and improves, which it did steadily ever since and dipped into the upper 4% range by January 2016, wage inflation is bound to follow. But that rate didn't suddenly drop to the 4% range in January 2017. Not even in November 2016 for anyone who wants to go there.
And then there is this:
States With $15 Minimum Wage Laws Doubled This Year
Posted May 23, 2019
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/states-with-15-minimum-wage-laws-doubled-this-year
That is definitely a factor in raising lower paying jobs wages overall as well. Btw, that is a policy that has been opposed by the Trump Administration, the now outgoing Secretary of Labor, Alex Acosta and their Party, even while they have been touting and taking credit for the inevitable overall wage increase stats results.
Franciscass
07-13-19, 06:59
Has anybody who owns their own residence been to Chjang Wattana recently for the 1 year extension of a retirement visa and if so may I ask if they required a completed TM 30 along with the usual documents.
I have looked online e. G. Thai Visa without finding a definite answer. Even tried at Chang Wattana last week when doing a 90 day without success.
Would be more than grateful for some help on this.
Hi guys,
An older (45) thai lady hit me up on Thai Cupid for a date. Actually she wants to marry but I said one thing at a time. Ordinarily I would ignore her based on age alone but she looks pretty good for 45 (I'm 63) and she showed me her gorgeous 40 Eee tits on skype. She owns some beach property in Prachaud and wants to know if I marry her am I interested in building a house there when I retire in three years. I swear I am not making this up. I will meet her in Bangkok where she works in September. Regular Thai ladies are very bossy though, aren't they? And like to control the money and everything. At least that's what I've seen on youtube testimonials. I think I prefer the more docile Filipinas which I know much more about because I go there more often. However J am curious if anyone has run into a situation like this and has any advice other than go slow and ask a lot of questions. Cheers.The Cups,
Yes there are lots of middle aged Thai ladies available and looking for Farang husband. So your age 63 is about right for her, but her age is borderline. She maybe in good shape now, but consider in 5 to 10 years. Normal rule for ideal age is your_age /2 + 7, so approx. 40 years is perfect. Just so happens my Mrs is coming up to 40 next birthday. In 5 to 10 years I might start to find her a bit old. She is still easily hot enough for me now way above average looks, not quite skinny any more (filled out a bit). She does not have quite to E cups but big enough for me.
The main thing is, you can try, but it takes at least 2 years to really know the person if you are with them nearly every day. Most ladies are after a guy, fully or at least partially for economic reasons, hardly for the sex, ha ha. So if you build a house on her land in Prajuap (I spell it how it sounds. Thais may strangely write ch in place of English J sound), does not matter to her if you split up later. Takes time to find out if she is really single, for example. Takes time to find out if she gets angry and bad moods a lot and for no reason. Takes time to reveal Psycho elements. My Mrs has her blow ups, when I need to stay away a bit, but fortunately not too often. No point trying to reason with an angry woman. I have decided I can tolerate the odd blow up. Just pretend nothing happened.
Next question, is do you want a partner at all, and if so, what are you looking for. Most women do not act exactly how we dream they might, especially after the first year. My Mrs has improved a lot in recent years, but early days were somewhat difficult, once we got past just being casual.
Most of us on here should be sex maniacs, so I think it is important that any prospective wife is a good fuck and is horny often enough. My Mrs has only started to become really horny enough in last 2 years assisted by alcohol and the bong, and freed up from a lot of former stresses. So that has meant I can cut back on mongering hugely.
Thai women tell lies but hate men who lie. Ha Ha. If you need to be telling your woman loads of lies all the time, you are better off not to have one. I tend to omit information or say nothing more often than making direct lies, that could be detected, these days. I learned this technique from smart Thai girls. I. e. Tell the truth but not the whole truth.
There has to be a development of a large degree of trust over time. My Mrs and I would be very confident that the other is not going to suddenly leave the relationship, and we can rely on each other. My Mrs needs to be fairly sure that I am not going to run off with some young floosy for example, and that she is the one that matters.
She maybe in good shape now, but consider in 5 to 10 years. Don't forget that you have to also add on 5 to 10 years to your own age and shape when you're trying to predict the future.
For DCups, he will be 73 when she is 55.
She may well also be menopausal by that age.
Remember that there is a tipping point where no amount or type of ED meds will make much difference, so you just have to hope that you can defy statistics and will still be "performing" well into your 70's.
Don't forget that you have to also add on 5 to 10 years to your own age and shape when you're trying to predict the future.
For DCups, he will be 73 when she is 55.
She may well also be menopausal by that age.
Remember that there is a tipping point where no amount or type of ED meds will make much difference, so you just have to hope that you can defy statistics and will still be "performing" well into your 70's.That's the most depressing post I've ever read on this forum.
Please help if you are well-versed in the Thai language.
Thank you.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3935-Tips-for-Learning-Thai-Language&p=2345826&viewfull=1#post2345826.
The Cups,So your age 63 is about right for her, but her age is borderline. She maybe in good shape now, but consider in 5 to 10 years. Normal rule for ideal age is your_age /2 + 7, so approx. 40 years is perfect. The main thing is, you can try, but it takes at least 2 years to really know the person if you are with them nearly every day. Most ladies are after a guy, fully or at least partially for economic reasons. Takes time to find out if she is really single, for example. Takes time to find out if she gets angry and bad moods a lot and for no reason. Takes time to reveal Psycho elements. My Mrs has her blow ups, when I need to stay away a bit, but fortunately not too often. No point trying to reason with an angry woman. I have decided I can tolerate the odd blow up. Just pretend nothing happened.
Next question, is do you want a partner at all, and if so, what are you looking for. Most women do not act exactly how we dream they might, especially after the first year. My Mrs has improved a lot in recent years, but early days were somewhat difficult, once we got past just being casual..Syz,
I greatly appreciate your insights and questions. Truth is I am a sex maniac and I have never been married so maybe it's not for me but glad to hear you (and others) have figured out the marriage thing. The equation for right age makes sense to me. I am also dating an extremely sexy and beautiful 28 year old singer in the Dominican Republic who has never hooked. But her English is sparse. Nevertheless, if I could manage to rotate between that one and another exceptional, educated and busty woman in the Philippines or Thailand (with an occasional discreet fling) that would probably work for me. But that is a big "IF". Even though I am 63 I could easily pass for 53 with my long hair, healthy libido and youthful, guitar-playing, basically carefree existence. Cheers, buddy. If our paths cross the beer's on me. I'll be in PI and Thailand all of September. I'll PM you.
Don't forget that you have to also add on 5 to 10 years to your own age and shape when you're trying to predict the future.
For DCups, he will be 73 when she is 55.
She may well also be menopausal by that age.
Remember that there is a tipping point where no amount or type of ED meds will make much difference, so you just have to hope that you can defy statistics and will still be "performing" well into your 70's.Yes, RK. I am hoping super Viagra will be invented by then! Cheers, mate.
That's the most depressing post I've ever read on this forum.Sad but true Smoothy.
It's the number 1 reason why those guys seeking to re-locate to SE Asia because of their current libido levels need to have a good think about it because you definitely need something else to keep you amused.
Franciscass
07-14-19, 08:58
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/07/05/trump-is-falling-almost-1-million-jobs-short-vs-obama/#648d27b98caa
"Trump Is Falling Almost 1 Million Jobs Short Vs. Obama"
"Job growth is slowing down"
(see chart)
"Not the best economy ever
The underlying economy is weaker than perceived when you look at March quarters GDP numbers and railroad traffic taking a significant downward move over the past month."
Fake news?My two cents.
I am not a doom and gloom merchant. I have around 50% of the portfolio in Thai equities down from 65% a week or so ago and now moving to overweight in cash and corporate bonds. Crashes are never expected yet they continuously happen. Last December was a scary reminder but thankfully was contained. I would say US markets now are either fully priced or perhaps 5% to 10% overpriced as they respond to expected cuts by the FED.
I don't foresee a market crash on the scale of '08 '09 which was caused by reckless US subprime property lending followed by mispricing of that lending but there are a number of signals out there that all is not well, not the least of which is the $13 trillion in negative yielding government debt a phenomenon Japan notwithstanding never seen before alongside the level of US debt over 100% and heading to 110%. A greater danger may be the irrational behavior of Trump who will do whatever it takes to get reelected and could bring about a collapse of the dollar in the process.
My point is nobody knows with any degree of certainty what's around the corner.
But what the hell, the sun is shining and the girls are waiting.
Sad but true Smoothy.
It's the number 1 reason why those guys seeking to re-locate to SE Asia because of their current libido levels need to have a good think about it because you definitely need something else to keep you amused.Yes, for me it will be raising a family and making music. Maybe an occasional speaking engagement. I plan on importing all my music equipment and starting a light rock band (just for fun). As you know the Filipinos are quite musical. And I'm hoping to get a nice beejay every day no matter how long I live. A beejay a day keeps the doctor away! Cheers!
Fake news?Yes. Now can we please get back to pussy?
I don't foresee a market crash on the scale of '08 '09 which was caused by reckless US subprime property lending followed by mispricing of that lending but there are a number of signals out there that all is not well, not the least of which is the $13 trillion in negative yielding government debt a phenomenon Japan notwithstanding never seen before alongside the level of US debt over 100% and heading to 110%.
But what the hell, the sun is shining and the girls are waiting.Yes and who was president of the USA then?
greater danger may be the irrational behavior of Trump who will do whatever it takes to get reelected and could bring about a collapse of the dollar in the process.I'm not sure what that even means. However, if Trump is re-elected, I fully expect the good times to continue. If Trump somehow loses the election to any of the Democrats currently running (all idiots), I fully expect a market crash.
From Thai Visa.
A leading tourism official has confirmed what many Pattaya residents have suspected for a long time.
The days of Europeans visiting Pattaya in large numbers for the entertainment industry are gone.
The strength of the baht, alternatives elsewhere and the rise of Chinese and now Indian tourism has seen a marked shift on who is coming to Pattaya and what they are doing there.
Secretary of the Entertainment Industry and Tourism Association of Pattaya Damrongkiat Phinitkarn gave Sophon TV some frank and damning statistics about the low season in Pattaya this year. Down 20% to 30%.Don't forget the shaming of the western monger has taken a toll.
Yes. Now can we please get back to pussy?This is a thread where we can talk about these issues instead of pussy. See, if you think the links I posted were "Fake News", that was your cue to post similarly credible links showing, say, that Trump's economy has created almost 1,000,000 more jobs during the comparable timeframe than Obama's insread of almost 1,000,000 fewer jobs and that the economy is accelerating rather than slowing under Trump vs Obama.
Recommending we quickly change the subject to pussy doesn't exactly refute what is cited in detail in those links or prove they report "Fake News", which I assume was your intention, but instead looks a wee bit like even you know you cannot do that.
Yes and who was president of the USA then?Well, as far as who was president for the most recent USA stock market crash, that would be George W. Bush. The stock market had hovered within a few percentage points up or down of a traditional Correction (at or less than a 20% decline from the previous all time high) and not a Bear for most of 2008, weathering some scary venerable investment institution collapses like Bear Sterns and Lehman Bros. along the way. It had stubbornly resisted dipping well into Bear territory without bouncing back into Correction territory within a few days.
But it finally gave way and crashed demonstrably into Bear territory beginning on the afternoon of September 29, 2008, in response to a handful of House Republicans suddenly reneging on their already "whipped" Yes votes needed to pass the original TARP, causing it to fail to pass. According to them, they did that because their feelings were hurt by something rather ordinary and innocuous then Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said that morning before the vote. I am not joking about that.
It was that particular straw on the camel's back that triggered a massive panic selloff that sent worldwide markets crashing and our economy into paralysis on the reasonable assumption that the then current Republican influence in government left America without the political will and smarts to do what was necessary to avert another Great Depression. Indeed, that little stunt to cause the original TARP to fail passage looked very much like the exact wrong moves Herbert Hoover and his fellow Republicans made in response to their Crash in 1929 that exacerbated and deepened the Great Depression.
From that afternoon on, the USA stock market would not find a floor and begin to recover until the Republican presence and influence was switched in the White House and tilted more toward Democrats in Congress and their first major economic recovery legislation was passed with practically no Republican votes.
What followed was the longest uninterrupted economic recovery and Bull Market in USA history. Even better than the previous Dem recoveries from Republican economic downturns or crashes under FDR, JFK / LBJ, Carter and Clinton. Obama's was even better and, considering the near unified Republican opposition to his and the Dems' efforts to pull us out of yet another in a long list of major Republican downturns over the past 85-90 years, I would say a more impressive accomplishment than those as well.
Btw, there was no Crash in 2009. Only a continuation of the panic selloff Crash that began on September 29, 2008 until about March 9, 2009, a couple of weeks after that American Recovery and Reinvestment Act was signed and passed.
I don't believe there has been a >20% decline/Crash triggering a Bear in the USA stock market with a Dem in the White House since before FDR. Beginning with Herbert Hoover roughly 90 years ago, Crashes or Bear markets have all begun under Republican presidents. That trend might even go back to 1907 under Teddy Roosevelt.
Franciscass
07-17-19, 03:37
Yes and who was president of the USA then?The crash of 08 and 09 was a result of what was going on for years during the Bush 43 presidency in the mispricing by the rating agencies of collateralized reckless mortgage lending which was making billions for the banking industry. Even so it would be wrong to blame this on Bush who was busy screwing up in Iraq having being played by Cheney and Rumsfeld.
The responsibility properly rests with the banks, the rating agencies and the asleep at the wheel regulators.
As a matter of record not opinion a comparison of stock market performance for similar periods of the Obama and Trump presidencies show from inauguration and May 31st of their third year under Obama the S&P was up 56.4% Dow Jones Average was up 50.6% and the Nasdaq 92.9%. For Trump the numbers are 21.4%, 25.2% and 34.2%.
The crash of 08 and 09 was a result of what was going on for years during the Bush 43 presidency in the mispricing by the rating agencies of collateralized reckless mortgage lending which was making billions for the banking industry. Even so it would be wrong to blame this on Bush who was busy screwing up in Iraq having being played by Cheney and Rumsfeld.
The responsibility properly rests with the banks, the rating agencies and the asleep at the wheel regulators.
As a matter of record not opinion a comparison of stock market performance for similar periods of the Obama and Trump presidencies show from inauguration and May 31st of their third year under Obama the S&P was up 56.4% Dow Jones Average was up 50.6% and the Nasdaq 92.9%. For Trump the numbers are 21.4%, 25.2% and 34.2%.If the interest rate was still zero, the numbers would be even higher for Trump. Interest rates remained zero for the entire Obama Presidency and would still be zero if Obama was President because he would not have invigorated the economy with jobs like Trump has to allow the interest rates to raise above zero. The interest rates remaining at zero for so long was borderline criminal.
The crash of 08 and 09 was a result of what was going on for years during the Bush 43 presidency in the mispricing by the rating agencies of collateralized reckless mortgage lending which was making billions for the banking industry. Even so it would be wrong to blame this on Bush who was busy screwing up in Iraq having being played by Cheney and Rumsfeld.
The responsibility properly rests with the banks, the rating agencies and the asleep at the wheel regulators.
As a matter of record not opinion a comparison of stock market performance for similar periods of the Obama and Trump presidencies show from inauguration and May 31st of their third year under Obama the S&P was up 56.4% Dow Jones Average was up 50.6% and the Nasdaq 92.9%. For Trump the numbers are 21.4%, 25.2% and 34.2%.I agree that was the reason for the financial/housing crash. But I don't believe that was the reason the stock market crashed.
The stock market remained largely out of a Bear for months, almost a year during the revelations that the banks, rating agencies, regulators and, most importantly, Bush's Office of Thrift Supervision were not doing their job. It was stubbornly holding on within Correction territory through a whole slew of disastrous news and venerable investment institution collapses. The S&P 500 Index only fell about 3.5% on the news of Lehman Bros. declaring bankruptcy around Sept. 15 of 2008 and rebounded into Correction territory over the next few days on the assumption that America had learned and knew how to avert a Great Depression and was about to do the first most important thing in keeping bank's doors open when they passed the first TARP, scheduled for a vote two weeks later.
The world of stock market investors naturally assumed no Party could be idiotic enough to repeat the mistakes Republicans made back in 1929. But then that handful of House Republicans shocked the world by pulling that last minute political stunt, TARP failed to pass and the panic selloff promptly began, proving the world wrong. The S&P 500 Index fell about 8% that day and kept falling for weeks and months afterwards, no bounce back, not even a dead cat bounce.
Based on the behavior of the market leading up to that fateful day, it is very likely the stock market would have recovered quite nicely, perhaps even soared and never entered serious Crash/Bear Market territory had that initial TARP legislation passed on Sept. 29,2008.
If the interest rate was still zero, the numbers would be even higher for Trump. Interest rates remained zero for the entire Obama Presidency and would still be zero if Obama was President because he would not have invigorated the economy with jobs like Trump has to allow the interest rates to raise above zero. The interest rates remaining at zero for so long was borderline criminal.The Fed doubled the Fed Funds Rate from 0.25% to 0.5% roughly a year after the unemployment rate reached 6% and showed definite signs of continuing to fall and not rising. Considering the depth of the economic decline Obama inherited from Bush, it was prudent to give it a year to see if it sticks.
The unemployment rate reached and fell below 6% in less than half the time under Obama than Mitt Romney promised his (Mitt's) policies would get it there in his 2012 presidential campaign bid. That is essentially the rate the Fed had established as being "Full Employment" for this era, when we historically begin to see more jobs available than applicants to take them and wage inflation becomes a risk. It was in December 2015, a few months after Donald Trump first announced his run for the presidency when almost no one predicted he would be the Republican nominee much less the president.
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I don't believe there has been a >20% decline/Crash triggering a Bear in the USA stock market with a Dem in the White House since before FDR. Beginning with Herbert Hoover roughly 90 years ago, Crashes or Bear markets have all begun under Republican presidents. That trend might even go back to 1907 under Teddy Roosevelt.BTW, I should add that this current president has continued the Republican tradition of presiding over Bear market downturns or crashes, at least technically. In 2018, the USA stock market as measured by the Wilshire 5000 Total Market Index (essentially every stock in most of the other major Indexes combined) fell and closed 20.75% from its previous high, traditionally considered Bear territory. However, the S&P 500 Index, the one most often used to measure for this purpose, only fell and closed down 19.78%. So it depends on how traditional one wants to measure Bulls and Bears, either by the Total USA Stock Market or by the S&P 500 alone.
Franciscass
07-17-19, 09:50
I agree that was the reason for the financial/housing crash. But I don't believe that was the reason the stock market crashed.
The stock market remained largely out of a Bear for months, almost a year during the revelations that the banks, rating agencies, regulators and, most importantly, Bush's Office of Thrift Supervision were not doing their job. It was stubbornly holding on within Correction territory through a whole slew of disastrous news and venerable investment institution collapses..It is always a matter of speculation as to whether the outcome of a situation would have been different had this or that happened or not particularly one as complicated as a world economic crisis, we simply don't know.
I do accept markets are at times driven just as much by physiology as fundamentals and I agree the September 29th shenanigans in the house did not help but that said the bill was passed 4 days later.
I guess you are saying that delay made all the difference to what followed. Possible I suppose but in my opinion unlikely and so I stand by my contention and the commonly accepted explanation of the crash of '08 '09 being caused by a housing crisis that first began to appear back in 2006.
At a bare minimum I think you have to agree that had there not been this housing crisis in the first place there would have been no need for a TARP making whether it passed on Sept 29th or Oct 3rd irrelevant.
If not then ET let's agree to disagree.
Franciscass
07-17-19, 09:52
If the interest rate was still zero, the numbers would be even higher for Trump. Interest rates remained zero for the entire Obama Presidency and would still be zero if Obama was President because he would not have invigorated the economy with jobs like Trump has to allow the interest rates to raise above zero. The interest rates remaining at zero for so long was borderline criminal.I suppose Smoothy this comes down to whether one is a Trump supporter or not.
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