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SubCmdr
08-21-24, 19:01
Back to Pattaya

I had a two nut day yesterday Slept well. Woke up too early. Going back to sleep!


This is akin to the typical Explorer report LOL. Just don't start eating ass and pussy like Explorer haha.OUTSTANDING get back my man Got to give you props. Much Respect!

No pussies or asses were eaten on my two nut day. But there was a whole lot of kissing (unusual for THE CMDR lots fucking and sucking with the girls going so mother fucking hard on my dick to the point of having having two girls taste my splooge in one day. Got to get around to filing a report someday. But it is so much more fun to argue over prices in Soi 6 or paying for long time or short time to girls off of Thai Friendly or talking shit to my haters than to actually provide information on having sex with girls here in Pattaya, you know actual fucking. From the posts I read many others feel the same way.

You see whereas some punters prefer BBFS. I'd much prefer to blow sponge in a girls mouth. It's even better if they swallow. But that activity has been a rare thing in Thailand (girls swallowing THE CMDR's splooge. Speaking of rare things, I have multiple girls tell me that I like to fuck ass find a ladyboy. One even accused me of being ladyboy telling real men did not like to do that. WTF?!.

JohnnieX
08-21-24, 23:08
Greetings! I'm planning to go to Thailand a few days after New Year celebratons, maybe 4 or 5 of January, Can anyone tell me if there is any shortage of girls around this date, or is there no such thing in the Land of Smiles?

EihTooms
08-22-24, 00:48
OUTSTANDING get back my man Got to give you props. Much Respect!

No pussies or asses were eaten on my two nut day. But there was a whole lot of kissing (unusual for THE CMDR lots fucking and sucking with the girls going so mother fucking hard on my dick to the point of having having two girls taste my splooge in one day. Got to get around to filing a report someday. But it is so much more fun to argue over prices in Soi 6 or paying for long time or short time to girls off of Thai Friendly or talking shit to my haters than to actually provide information on having sex with girls here in Pattaya, you know actual fucking. From the posts I read many others feel the same way.

You see whereas some punters prefer BBFS. I'd much prefer to blow sponge in a girls mouth. It's even better if they swallow. But that activity has been a rare thing in Thailand (girls swallowing THE CMDR's splooge. Speaking of rare things, I have multiple girls tell me that I like to fuck ass find a ladyboy. One even accused me of being ladyboy telling real men did not like to do that. WTF?!.For me and for the money, a BBBJ+CIM+Swallow finish is a perfectly acceptable substitute for a BBFS+CIP finish. But, as you point out, Cum Swallowing rather than discretely spitting it into a tissue or running to the nearest sink to spit it out has always been a rarity for me in Thailand for all the years I have mongered here, even going back to when I was half my age now 35 years ago.

So I find it interesting that since you have mentioned it a couple of times we have not seen the follow up response posts I generally got on that topic from dudes claiming their P4 P girls, BJ Bar girls, go-go girls, escorts, FLs, etc Swallow every drop at the end of a BJ so regularly and often without them even mentioning it much less requesting it and offering an extra tip for it they naturally assumed it was the Thai P4 P "norm. " LOL.

It sure has not been the "norm" for me in Thailand whether I say nothing, mention that I prefer it, request it or offer to pay extra for it. Not after visiting here to monger dozens of times in past decades, Bangkok or Pattaya, living here more than a dozen years and having been blown to a CIM finish by several hundred if not a couple of thousand different Thai girls here, most P4 P and some non P4 P directly.

Not with the Thai girls I have chosen to session with, that is. Most other places I have mongered in the world including the USA, yes, Swallowing rather than spitting it out was the "norm. " But not in Thailand. It happens with the Thai girls I choose to session with. Just very rarely.

Fellow Thai punters, is a BBBJ+CIM+Swallow no longer the "norm" for you with a first time BJ session anymore?

CaliGuy33
08-22-24, 03:46
OUTSTANDING get back my man Got to give you props. Much Respect!

No pussies or asses were eaten on my two nut day. But there was a whole lot of kissing (unusual for THE CMDR lots fucking and sucking with the girls going so mother fucking hard on my dick to the point of having having two girls taste my splooge in one day. Got to get around to filing a report someday. But it is so much more fun to argue over prices in Soi 6 or paying for long time or short time to girls off of Thai Friendly or talking shit to my haters than to actually provide information on having sex with girls here in Pattaya, you know actual fucking. From the posts I read many others feel the same way.

You see whereas some punters prefer BBFS. I'd much prefer to blow sponge in a girls mouth. It's even better if they swallow. But that activity has been a rare thing in Thailand (girls swallowing THE CMDR's splooge. Speaking of rare things, I have multiple girls tell me that I like to fuck ass find a ladyboy. One even accused me of being ladyboy telling real men did not like to do that. WTF?!.Two things that are difficult to procure from Asian chicas is CIM with swallow and three whole gurls. Of course CIM can be obtained from BJ bars etc. But man, I can't even find a chick that will let me put a finger in her ass let alone my meat LOL.

SubCmdr
08-22-24, 03:49
I had my first ISG brother meet at the Bus Bar. He enjoyed my spot. We had a drink. Listened to to music and just chilled out for a bit. I picked up the check, it was my invitation and that is how real men handle their business.

Then we hit Soi 6. Where I got a range of prices. 400 - 500 for the short time room was consistent. But for the girls they asked me 1000 - 4000. I even ran into a girl that had Fear of the BIG BLACK DICK!. She would not even give me a price. Told me she did not do Short Time. GET THE FUCK!. How you make your money *****? Salary and drink commissions?

Then we hit Windmill. Mamason must have given my current favorite a heads up. Because I had barely sat down and she was on me. Craziness ensued and she was up on the table right in front of me next. Bar Fines and Short Time so expensive in that place. Got to arrange an off hours meeting.

Finally we wound up in Insomnia. That place was crazy. A true club experience with EDM / Techno blasting. It was fun chatting up the regular girls in the place. I got the LINE ID of a gorgeous young thing while I was there. I will be surprised if she is not working. We exchanged hellos while we were in the club. But have not heard a thing from her since. Chatted up another one and invited her to our table but she was not giving up her line. She just wanted to be in the presence of greatness. Hanging out with this particular ISG Brother is like being with a celebrity. Girls take their panties off in front of him and hand them to him. LOL! She made a good choice to hang with us. When we left we gifted her our half full bottle of Sam Thong. She was pretty happy about that.

AggieDad1
08-22-24, 05:04
Two things that are difficult to procure from Asian chicas is CIM with swallow and three whole gurls. Of course CIM can be obtained from BJ bars etc. But man, I can't even find a chick that will let me put a finger in her ass let alone my meat LOL.The two women I have met in my life that met the definition of "three whole gurls" are both mentally unstable. So you will probably have better luck if you look for crazy first. LOL.

BionicMan
08-22-24, 05:48
Greetings! I'm planning to go to Thailand a few days after New Year celebratons, maybe 4 or 5 of January, Can anyone tell me if there is any shortage of girls around this date, or is there no such thing in the Land of Smiles?January is high season. No shortage but bars and girls might be busier. Depending on the economy and people's capacity to travel.

LittleBigMan
08-22-24, 06:12
Two things that are difficult to procure from Asian chicas is CIM with swallow and three whole gurls. Of course CIM can be obtained from BJ bars etc. But man, I can't even find a chick that will let me put a finger in her ass let alone my meat LOL.I don't know your taste but if you visit Kinnaree, she is around 38, but she looks older but fun to be with. When I met her after covid she isn't fat I would say solid body but last session gain a few lbs. My favorite part is her ass solid you can bounce a coin off it.

I've not done CIM got to do full program but the way she blows in shower I wouldn't be surprise. I regularly play with her butt hole finger and thumb doing her ass isn't mandatory but I have a number of time. She has told me can do everything without a condom but I'm a cover up guy. Name is Candy!

Mr Enternational
08-22-24, 07:24
I can't even find a chick that will let me put a finger in her ass let alone my meat LOL.Most of those chicks are going to be 30 and up.

Mr Enternational
08-22-24, 07:27
Cum Swallowing rather than discretely spitting it into a tissue or running to the nearest sink to spit it out has always been a rarity for me in Thailand The key is that after you skeet in her mouth, you have to hurry up and tickle her. Be careful though, because it could backfire on you (pun intended).

Franciscass
08-22-24, 08:01
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Explorer8939
08-22-24, 08:34
Greetings! I'm planning to go to Thailand a few days after New Year celebratons, maybe 4 or 5 of January, Can anyone tell me if there is any shortage of girls around this date, or is there no such thing in the Land of Smiles?You will run into huge numbers of ladies, since that is the height of High Season and few go home that time of year.

Also Pattaya is the most crowded at that time.

LittleBigMan
08-22-24, 08:50
Maybe it's me, but I have never had a massage lady who was good at sex. Most are good at the warmup, but the actual fucking or sucking is meh.

Likewise, bar girls may be good at fucking or sucking, but have zero skills in warming up the customer. Most bar girl customers are hot to trot once in the room.I alive today because of massage! Inches from death early in life I've spend 50 years in pain at times majority soreness but I have managed I don't take any pain medication once in a blue moon it is so bad aspirin for a day or two. As everyone knows I can't write for shit so being a laborer should be no surprise and letting a doctor cut me open never has been on the table. My solution I keep myself fit, exercise and hell of a lot of massages legit and mostly not legit.

Here in Thailand particular in Pattaya, my standard and it has been years never been able to match these two provider and it has been over a hundred through the years still in search.

1. In Jomtien, her name was Tammy Soi 6, recommended by a friend who said minimum two hours. I thought a happy ending two hours you joking! After first session I knew why man that was surely the good old days. Got to know her personally help her out by setting up a few clients for her art and did she show here appreciation. It was all about money for her but I took advantage of that friendship by seeing her after her work and spending lots of time going out and spending time at her Condo.

2. The famous Rin, who started at Barons later her own shop famous for her ball massage. At her own shop she started to gain a bit of weight top that off with getting older. I convince my younger nephew from Hong Kong over ten years give here a try like most young guys they want young but he did came out with a big smile on his face he joked even at his age when he flipped over and ask her to get naked before the ball massage his dick nearly drop dead when he mention those big Grandma Panties came off and she hung it on the door it was a nightmare but once she started on the ball massage it was a work of art.

I last tried her 10 years when I use to cycle into Bangkok from Pattaya, drop my bike and shower off to her place, by now older she gave the best back and butt massage I once half asleep counted 100 strokes each side of my butt.

Today Tammy is long gone she opened her own shop later at the Jomtien station that now runs a bus to the airport, her shop then was called Rose, I still remember when it opened real fancy the girl had taste sill I think of our session. I did her cousin for a while found out she married a guy and went to his home country.

Today, never in a hunt all by accident when I travel daily on my bike doing stuff, if I see something I like I start with a foot and go from there as a test run. To this day, I searching.

Nyezhov
08-22-24, 12:14
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LittleBigMan
08-22-24, 14:05
Massage!

Here is another suggestion. If you are into? Unknown. Before I found my regular shop for legit massage I was recommended this place by a local hotel owner. I haven't been there in years but my first visit was over twenty years ago.

On Klang same side Big see, head s owards 3rd. On you right is a three story green building double door are black out glass if you get to the busy motorbike shop you just missed it.

Opens around 1 pm, best time is around 3 pm doesn't open late. Inside is an actually fish bowl to pick don't expect 10-9-8-7, you pick tell the cashier how long this is actually Thai massage they take you to second floor big room with curtsin gived you are set of clothes to get into I thought it was legit. It is venture byThai locals after 3 sessions with same girl plain but cute got more friendly more open and talkative. During session she mentioned they have oil massage which is done on 3rd floor I asked how much for oil she said 200 plus 1500.

She became a regular for a while typical single women with a young kid she was really into everything but didn't like french kissing.

Mr Enternational
08-22-24, 14:08
The famous Rin, who started at Barons later her own shop famous for her ball massage. At her own shop she started to gain a bit of weight top that off with getting older. I convince my younger nephew from Hong Kong over ten years give here a try like most young guys they want young but he did came out with a big smile on his face he joked even at his age when he flipped over and ask her to get naked before the ball massage his dick nearly drop dead when he mention those big Grandma Panties came off and she hung it on the door it was a nightmare but once she started on the ball massage it was a work of art.You are going to make me cry. That lady had some of the best pussy I have ever had in my life.

HorseTrader
08-22-24, 15:09
Maybe check in again in another 6 months and see if the marshals have the escapees back under lock and key.Ignore list works well. For me, just adding one poster eliminates 80% of the crap. Adding 2 people eliminates about 95% of the crap.

SubCmdr
08-22-24, 16:06
Ignore list works well. It sure does. The real beauty of the ignore list is that it works both ways.


For me, just adding one poster eliminates 80% of the crap.Each person that adds me to their ignore list eliminates 100% of the crap that constitutes a reply to my posts. Such as this one:


That sounds about right. The girls who are fit and pretty tend to require more than 1000 baht. At least the ancient big farangs like me need to pay more.Maybe you had not added me to your ignore list when you posted this.


Adding 2 people eliminates about 95% of the crap.Warms my heart to see people improving their lives through technology.

JohnnieX
08-22-24, 20:33
You will run into huge numbers of ladies, since that is the height of High Season and few go home that time of year.

Also Pattaya is the most crowded at that time.


January is high season. No shortage but bars and girls might be busier. Depending on the economy and people's capacity to travel.Thanks for the info, guys!

Explorer8939
08-23-24, 03:48
An older lady I know commented that she wasn't horny after she hit 40.

Other times, she stated that she only would cum with her Thai boyfriend once in a while. Since in my book, you can't cum if you're not horny, my guess is what she means by "horny" is wanting sex before the act.

So she doesn't get horny unless she is actually getting fucked by her boyfriend.

Which is probably true for 90% of women.

SiamMan
08-23-24, 07:03
2. The famous Rin, who started at Barons later her own shop famous for her ball massage. At her own shop she started to gain a bit of weight top that off with getting older. I convince my younger nephew from Hong Kong over ten years give here a try like most young guys they want young but he did came out with a big smile on his face he joked even at his age when he flipped over and ask her to get naked before the ball massage his dick nearly drop dead when he mention those big Grandma Panties came off and she hung it on the door it was a nightmare but once she started on the ball massage it was a work of art.
That brings back memories. Baron's was my go-to place when I first came here. I had the good fortune to have a session with Rin back then. Unforgettable. I agree with Mr. E. , a very special experience.

Explorer8939
08-24-24, 05:02
One of my regular bar girls introduced me to a civvie housewife, who comes to my condo once a week. She was a bar girl before COVID, made a lot of money, had a couple of kids, so she opened her own bar. COVID killed that, so she lives in poverty with her Thai boyfriend.

Which means she is really eager to come drink for money. She can down half a bottle of Tequila with little effect, and then is ready for the bedroom. She knows the standard bar girl ST routine which is okay for me, but I might customize it.

The point here is that you can go beyond the usual bar / gogo routine (assuming you don't get suckered into having a Thai GF) and go with a "civvie", ie a lady who isn't currently working bar, as a change of pace.

SubCmdr
08-24-24, 07:47
The Oxygen Beachfront Oasis Pattaya.

Is off the mother fucking chain! 5 star plus experience. Highly recommended.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/3TAgDkvX3ZsypvBc8

SubCmdr
08-24-24, 16:14
I remember years back I was down on Soi 6, Pussy Cat bar just taken over by nightwish group talking and buying a drink for one pleasant girl at best a 5, I ask what is your price she said 1000, I said I always paid 700 I ask her why 1000 when it is 700, cause everyone else is getting 1000.One of the reason I prefer Gentlemans Clubs, Thai Friendly and Beach Road girls is because the girls receive independent confirmation on the value of their pussy without the corporate peer pressure structure of Soi 6 pushing them to ask for X amount for their pussy cause all the other girls working there asking the same amount.

I can look at a girls picture on Thai Friendly and pretty much know what they are going to ask for. If they are hot I will ask them how much they want. If they are average or below average then I will low ball them and let them either accept or counter. I don't negotiate prices. I negotiate services.

Fuck all that arguing of over the prices of Soi 6. There is too much pussy in Pattaya for that shit.

SubCmdr
08-24-24, 16:16
Yes I have noticed that the toilets here all have a sprayer hose connected to them.Damn straight and you can't believe how sensual it is when a girl invites you into the bathroom with her so she can clean your dick up (both before and after).

Stykler
08-25-24, 02:34
That brings back memories. Baron's was my go-to place when I first came here. Can anyone refresh my memory. Where exactly was Baron's? I went there a few times but cannot recall where it was. Dr Google seems to have erased all trace of the place.

LittleBigMan
08-25-24, 04:59
One of the reason I prefer Gentlemans Clubs, Thai Friendly and Beach Road girls is because the girls receive independent confirmation on the value of their pussy without the corporate peer pressure structure of Soi 6 pushing them to ask for X amount for their pussy cause all the other girls working there asking the same amount.

I can look at a girls picture on Thai Friendly and pretty much know what they are going to ask for. If they are hot I will ask them how much they want. If they are average or below average then I will low ball them and let them either accept or counter. I don't negotiate prices. I negotiate services.

Fuck all that arguing of over the prices of Soi 6. There is too much pussy in Pattaya for that shit.You are correct! Anything I don't like I just don't go back whether it is 6 or any other place. I like you these days rather hit GC. Or massage places as for them I usually start with a foot during the session if topic about tegular, oil comed up usually a good sign they do extras uniform or not. At that point if I got the itch Joking in conversation get the menu and prices prior I don't like having a woody then finding the pricr!

SammyDeee
08-25-24, 06:58
The Oxygen Beachfront Oasis Pattaya.

Is off the mother fucking chain! 5 star plus experience. Highly recommended.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/3TAgDkvX3ZsypvBc8Can you elaborate a little? What do you like about it?

Explorer8939
08-25-24, 11:43
A lady I know got blown out by a Thai money boy. He scrounged off her until her money ran out, then ran off with another Thai lady who had more money.

The problem is my Thai lady friend expects her money boy to come back (he's okay with visiting for the occasional fuck, on the side).

So, she doesn't want to go with customers long time because her money boy might want to see her.

Meanwhile, her telephone is ringing off the hook from debt collectors.

Ed Setra
08-25-24, 13:43
Can anyone refresh my memory. Where exactly was Baron's? I went there a few times but cannot recall where it was. Dr Google seems to have erased all trace of the place.From my memory, which is selective and creative these days, Baron backed onto Sukhumvit but you accessed it from the first alley on the left as you go from Sukhumvit into Soi 24. I have been wrong once or twice though.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/oB2sk9gSxUiGY4PQ6

NRandom940
08-25-24, 14:43
You are correct! Anything I don't like I just don't go back whether it is 6 or any other place. I like you these days rather hit GC. Or massage places as for them I usually start with a foot during the session if topic about tegular, oil comed up usually a good sign they do extras uniform or not. At that point if I got the itch Joking in conversation get the menu and prices prior I don't like having a woody then finding the pricr!My one experience in a GC was Maggie Mays. I think it was 1300 for a BJ. The only girl I'd rate above a 7 was busy the whole night with someone else.

Am I doing it wrong?

SubCmdr
08-25-24, 17:15
My one experience in a GC was Maggie Mays. I think it was 1300 for a BJ. The only girl I'd rate above a 7 was busy the whole night with someone else.

Am I doing it wrong?Maggie Mays: Full Service is 1000; room 400.

You get what you negotiate with the girl. The room is a set price. The time she spends with you is directly related to the LD drinks you buy for her.

Or you can change venues:

Windmill: 3000ST; 5000 LT; Bar Fine after 0100:1500.

Skyfall: 3000ST; 5000 LT; Bar Fine: 1500.

Kink: 3000ST; 5000 LT; Bar Fine: 1500.

Beer Bar on Soi Tree town: 1000ST; Bar Fine: 500.

Kings Club: LD 160 ; 1000ST; VIP Room 400;.

Lips Lounge: LD 250; 500 BBBJCIM; no need for room. Room 300 THB. Bar Fine 1000.

Don't get caught up in the pricing bullshit on Soi 6. Fuck dem Nightass group bar owning mother fuckers.

Know your venues. Know your prices. Do not fight the market. Flow to where the market works for you.

LittleBigMan
08-26-24, 03:16
My one experience in a GC was Maggie Mays. I think it was 1300 for a BJ. The only girl I'd rate above a 7 was busy the whole night with someone else.

Am I doing it wrong?There is no right or wrong! I've never been inside MM, driving by seen a few but that is my taste, I thought for a beerbar Amorn, right next door she started with one now has two shops together she had better staff and I also believe cheaper she has a room or two upstairs.

Before she retired and Pothole became popular she was considered the Queen of the Soi, her original place was down the other end she use to be hooked up with a Belgium guy who opened the place later she left for Belgium broke up and return. Then it was a massage shop later she might have been the first drinks and massages then she work she and another girl can't remember her name with superstar Amorn was the one if you like ass she was the one. For me when she started drinks outside it went down hill there were guys who drank and cock block their time which has happen to all of us. The solution is move on sometimes you don't get the Gold, Silver is good too. LOL.

SiamMan
08-26-24, 05:04
Can anyone refresh my memory. Where exactly was Baron's? I went there a few times but cannot recall where it was. Dr Google seems to have erased all trace of the place.The entrance to Barons was on the left hand side of the first alley on the left off Soi 24 (near to where Addict and other places are now). You could also enter through the attached barber shop on Sukhumvit road itself, just past the beginning of Soi 24.

Houston Player
08-26-24, 07:16
The entrance to Barons was on the left hand side of the first alley on the left off Soi 24 (near to where Addict and other places are now). You could also enter through the attached barber shop on Sukhumvit road itself, just past the beginning of Soi 24.Stupid me. I thought they were talking about a place in Pattaya.

Ed Setra
08-26-24, 10:14
The entrance to Barons was on the left hand side of the first alley on the left off Soi 24 (near to where Addict and other places are now). You could also enter through the attached barber shop on Sukhumvit road itself, just past the beginning of Soi 24.That's a relief. My memory can be trusted after all.

TConor
08-27-24, 00:08
That's a relief. My memory can be trusted after all.What is it or was it? What is the attraction?

SiamMan
08-27-24, 05:11
What is it or was it? What is the attraction?Barons was a massage parlour, an early forerunner of the oily style massage places that are to be found nowadays all around the same area near Phrom Phrong.

It was the best known of the massage places serving East Asians and Farangs in the early 2000's. I'm not sure exactly when it closed down, but certainly before the end of the 2000's.

The attraction was it was a clean and well set up venue, with fair prices, and above all an excellent line up of ladies, all of whom provided great service.

Explorer8939
08-28-24, 04:38
I ate some bad food, and was sick for a couple of days. I only cancelled one lady visit, but went through the motions with four ladies (I am leaving the country soon and lots of ladies want to get one last payday in). So, I got lots of attention, but no desire to hit the bedroom.

One lady came to complain about her boyfriend, I won't tell the story because he might be reading this.

An agency lady came over to drink and brag that a customer gave her 100,000 baht for Short Time. Another customer was a virgin, afterwards gave her 4,000 baht, she asked for more, he gave her another 8,000, and then she asked for a tip. The agency girl has a great ass and uses it well.

I've got a young lady coming in 90 minutes, and she always wants to fuck, I hope I am up for it. Plus 2 ladies tonight in Wongamat.

Explorer8939
08-28-24, 09:08
One lady I know comes for 3 day LT, and posts on Facebook showing my condo. The problem is her Thai boyfriend sees her FB and then she is surprised when he is not happy when she comes home.

So, he has basically kicked her out, and she will be sleeping on my sofa tomorrow night. So, I have to work this out with my overnight lady for tomorrow, so she doesn't lose face.

You guys who are obvious to the backstage drama are lucky.

Explorer8939
08-29-24, 11:00
One of the ladies in my rotation had a traumatic breakup with a Thai boyfriend some time ago, and lost everything. So I had come drink mostly to console her and give some money to stay off the streets.

Today, she was perkier, and had enough self awareness to understand that she had been going with a money boy who left her for another lady who had more money. One good outcome was she lost a lot of weight, and she was eager to show off.

I was willing to give her an hour, but that wasn't enough for her. She claimed she had gone without for the entire month.

SubCmdr
08-29-24, 13:35
Not everyone is a mother fucking introvert typing on their mother fucking computer (and I do my share of that). Some people like to have human interaction in the real world. I do.That alone is why Pattaya will continue to be what it is to those who like it.

Not everyone is a know it all If you count the number of posters on this board and compare that to the number of customers during a slow day at a bar on Soi 6 you will see that this is an obscure website that only the hardest of the hard core Professional Tricks frequent.

My opinion

Thai Friendly is great! But I would not fly half way around the world and sit in my hotel room sending messages on my phone for an entire trip. Personally, I am happy that there is: Soi 6, LK Metro, Soi TreeTown, Soi Honey, Soi Pothole, Central Avenue, Beach Road, Walking Street and of course The Bus Bar. My understanding is there are other countries that present a more straight forward approach to having sex with girls. Perhaps those who find Pattaya, Thailand not to their liking should visit them.

Explorer8939
08-30-24, 02:05
My last night in Thailand for a while, so I had a massage lady come for the night. She was an old school GFE lady.

Unfortunately for her, business has been slow this month, and so she was more interested than usual in my dick.

As a massage lady, her fucking style is designed for a massage bed, specifically getting the customer off on a small bed. So I let her do her thing, which was standard massage lady sex, except that when she did reverse Cowgirl, she started to seriously abuse my dick, pounding it like it was a dildo. So much that it wasn't sexy for me and the pounding took me out of the mood. I just had to hold on while she interminably had her fun.

After which I settled for a HJ and went to sleep.

Now I am off for Japan.

SubCmdr
08-30-24, 11:36
Now I am off for Japan.With or without a Thai girl?

Explorer8939
08-30-24, 23:43
With or without a Thai girl?I have a Thai lady in Japan for four days, then I head to Mexico, and parts south alone for a month or so.

SubCmdr
09-01-24, 00:44
I am planning to take the train to Laos. Should I take a Thai Girl with me? Or do you think I can find a girl I can pay to fuck in Laos?

Please help a brother out! LOL!.

Crocodilexp
09-01-24, 20:20
I am planning to take the train to Laos. Should I take a Thai Girl with me? Or do you think I can find a girl I can pay to fuck in Laos?

Please help a brother out! LOL!.There are Lao and Viet working girls in Vientiane, but they're off the tourist circuit, and usually the brief and unfulfilling brothel experience. It's illegal too, not sure how much police cares, but don't want to find out.

If you want GFE and someone to entertain you in a Farang way, bring your own.

Banana Boi
09-02-24, 05:45
If you want GFE and someone to entertain you in a Farang way, bring your own.Croc, Sub's post was poking fun at Explorer having to take a Thai girl everywhere he goes. It wasn't a serious question. But thanks for the info. My reason for not going to Laos is the same as yours.

HorseTrader
09-02-24, 17:33
There are Lao and Viet working girls in Vientiane, but they're off the tourist circuit, and usually the brief and unfulfilling brothel experience. It's illegal too, not sure how much police cares, but don't want to find out.This post got me thinking about one of my Lao bar girl friends. I sent her a message asking why she doesn't work at a bar in Vientiane, which is very close to her village. She replied "no money lao you come samui." Several Lao bar girls travel together, so they must agree.

Explorer8939
09-06-24, 13:13
Croc, Sub's post was poking fun at Explorer having to take a Thai girl everywhere he goes. It wasn't a serious question. But thanks for the info. My reason for not going to Laos is the same as yours.I am planning another long trip to Brazil, and several bar girls are lobbying to come along.

Also, one Mexican lady.

SubCmdr
09-06-24, 14:28
I am planning another long trip to Brazil, and several bar girls are lobbying to come along.

Also, one Mexican lady.I was just starting to miss you my man. Could barely live without your daily updates about the ladies you plan to travel with.

Brazil Damn brother you must really like these girls if you are considering taking them.

Banana Boi
09-06-24, 17:40
Brazil Damn brother you must really like these girls if you are considering taking them.Looked into 1 stop flights next week to Sao Paulo or Rio for a 2 week stay. 2 stops only nominally cheaper. 55k baht on Turkish Air. 64k on Emirates. I didn't include the 52k Ethiopian air flight. Both cities fairly similar pricing. Plus his self admitted 2k per day to the girl.

With all this spending Explorer is likely the biggest spender on this board. I cringe even when I'm treating a girl to come to Japan (9500 baht for the same dates) and I don't even pay for her time cause I'm paying for her flight and hotel.

Drinks need to be on Explorer at the next Pattaya meet up. Way richer than this poor mofo. Maybe Explorer and EThai can pull off a closed to the public party at Maggie May. You need a verified ISG account to enter.

Axel Heyst
09-06-24, 22:34
I am planning another long trip to Brazil, and several bar girls are lobbying to come along.You do know that flying a Thai girl to Brazil is like flying a dump truck full of sand to the beach, right? 555/ KKK. I mean why do it? You will be stuck with the Thai girl the entire time you are in Brazil. I just can't see myself leaving the Thai girl in my hotel room while I head over to the Palm for an afternoon session or head to Scandallo for a 2-fer some night. I don't know any Thai girl that would be happy with that arrangement. KKK. It sounds like a recipe for a disaster plus I doubt that your Thai girl is going to relate in bed to too many far more physical, Portuguese speaking, Brazilian girls whereas if you put two bisexual Brazilian girls in bed together you are much more likely to end up with the 4th of July.

So, I think it's better and a lot cheaper to take a Thai girl to the southern Thai Islands or Northern Hill country if you enjoy her company and want to get away from the local redlight scene for a little while. Thai Orchids do better in Thailand and Brazilian girls same same in Brazil, IMHO, although I do admit I have this one fantasy to fly my favorite Scandallo girl to Thailand, but that fantasy only comes on me after several joints, a bottle of Malbec, and some very passionate love making with my favorite garota; Valeria.

Anyway, here is a version of my solo super trip idea: MIA to BKK and spend 6 weeks in LOS, then fly BKK to CGK and spend a couple of weeks in Jakarta. Then connect in Singapore for a flight to GRU for a 6 to 8 week romp in Sao Paulo before flying back to MIA. Total airfare is around $2300 according to Google flights and I wouldn't bring a girl along on such a trip because in the clear light of day, I do not see a realistic benefit of flying a girl halfway around the world and spending that much time with her. I prefer to enjoy the bounty of one place and when I have had my fill, to head on to another place never looking back UNLESS I had a very special Thai girl or was married (ha ha ha) to a Thai girl and looking for trouble.

This is just my opinion. I know Explorer has a different opinion and has done this thing before. So do what makes you happy!

A. H.

Explorer8939
09-07-24, 19:31
Looked into 1 stop flights next week to Sao Paulo or Rio for a 2 week stay. 2 stops only nominally cheaper. 55k baht on Turkish Air. 64k on Emirates. I didn't include the 52k Ethiopian air flight. Both cities fairly similar pricing. Plus his self admitted 2k per day to the girl.

With all this spending Explorer is likely the biggest spender on this board. I cringe even when I'm treating a girl to come to Japan (9500 baht for the same dates) and I don't even pay for her time cause I'm paying for her flight and hotel.

Drinks need to be on Explorer at the next Pattaya meet up. Way richer than this poor mofo. Maybe Explorer and EThai can pull off a closed to the public party at Maggie May. You need a verified ISG account to enter.I pay for the bar girl's travel with frequent flyer miles. Her salary is 1000 baht per day.

My plan for the winter is to fly to Brazil with a Thai lady for a month, send her back home and hang out alone in Rio for a while, and fly down a Tijuana bar girl for a few weeks.

The Tijuana lady wants to go to Thailand eventually.

Explorer8939
09-08-24, 01:50
There are some ladies I have known for many years and they are still working bar. Most are over 40, and now their bodies are breaking down. A few are lucky to have sponsors, but some are still grinding it out.

Most have lost their sex drive, but can still fake it. Maybe 10% can feel something and will try to cum.

SubCmdr
09-08-24, 11:29
I barfined 40 year old out of a Tree Top Beer Bar. The experiences was outstanding. She sucked a good dick. She let me put her into any position I wanted. She could take some dick. And I have a lot to give. I pounded away at her to my hearts content. Snatched the condom off. Laid her flat on her stomach and fucked her mouth until I blew every last bit of splooge into her mouf. She stayed on my dick until I finished. Then went to the bathroom to spit. I had negotiated for two shots. But she came out of the bathroom after the first round and said she was leaving. Asked for a 100 for her taxi. I told her no. And paid her half. She was happy and rolled out.

Sorry Banana Boi I did not pay any attention to the bar name. I can point out the bar. 500 bar fine (I could have waited and hour until the bar closed and avoided the bar fine); 1000 THB to the girl. But I have not seen there since.

I only retell this story to illustrate to each and every one of my readers that we all experiences Pattya differently and in our own unique way.

I do not understand people like this:


You seem to be busy 24/7 posting here. And I wonder who the real keyboard warrior is, because like I already said you seem to be busy here 24/7.A individual that does not like my posts can simply put me on ignore. But why do they want to deny the accurate and entertaining information about having sex with girls in Pattaya in such an OUTSTANDING manner to the other readers of ISG?

Mogwai
09-08-24, 20:01
A individual that does not like my posts can simply put me on ignore. But why do they want to deny the accurate and entertaining information about having sex with girls in Pattaya in such an OUTSTANDING manner to the other readers of ISG?Proving once again that you're a narcissist.

SubCmdr
09-08-24, 21:37
Please continue to show me all the love that you do Mogwai by reading every word of my posts and responding.


Proving once again that you're a narcissist.

Explorer8939
09-09-24, 16:35
As a change of pace, here is a post about a woman.

I have a lady come over once a week, every Monday night. Her deal is that she is a "Dee", she usually goes with Tomboys, except when she needs money.

When I lick her pussy, I notice that she has a tiny clit, almost a pit rather than a mini-dick, and really hard to access. She will spread her pussy lips with her hand so I can get at it. From her reaction, she likes the licking, but it doesn't get her off. Because she likes it hard, and there is only so much I can do.

So, her Tomboy has the equipment to put lots of pressure on her clit in a way I can't do.

Fortunately, I'm the customer, so it's her job to take care of me, I just like to warm her up.

When she is hard up for cash, she will get a Farang "boyfriend", but she can only go without cumming for so long before she finds a Tomboy.

SubCmdr
09-10-24, 03:51
As a change of pace, here is a post about a woman.Actually, as change of pace I would like to see a actual trip report filed by you with the following information:

Souce where you procured the prostitute; services the prostitute provided; price you paid for the prostitute. An excellent example of actual report that contains useful information is below:


I barfined 40 year old out of a Tree Top Beer Bar. The experiences was outstanding. She sucked a good dick. She let me put her into any position I wanted. She could take some dick. And I have a lot to give. I pounded away at her to my hearts content. Snatched the condom off. Laid her flat on her stomach and fucked her mouth until I blew every last bit of splooge into her mouf. She stayed on my dick until I finished. Then went to the bathroom to spit. I had negotiated for two shots. But she came out of the bathroom after the first round and said she was leaving. Asked for a 100 for her taxi. I told her no. And paid her half. She was happy and rolled out.

Sorry Banana Boi I did not pay any attention to the bar name. I can point out the bar. 500 bar fine (I could have waited and hour until the bar closed and avoided the bar fine); 1000 THB to the girl. But I have not seen there since.Instead of bad internet porn:


I have a lady come over once a week, every Monday night. Her deal is that she is a "Dee", she usually goes with Tomboys, except when she needs money.

When I lick her pussy, I notice that she has a tiny clit, almost a pit rather than a mini-dick, and really hard to access. She will spread her pussy lips with her hand so I can get at it. From her reaction, she likes the licking, but it doesn't get her off. Because she likes it hard, and there is only so much I can do.

So, her Tomboy has the equipment to put lots of pressure on her clit in a way I can't do.

Fortunately, I'm the customer, so it's her job to take care of me, I just like to warm her up.

When she is hard up for cash, she will get a Farang "boyfriend", but she can only go without cumming for so long before she finds a Tomboy.But this is the Thailand Lounge and Chat thread so there is no requirement that every post in this section be a trip report or related to a girl. Only loosely related to Thailand.

Explorer8939
09-10-24, 10:59
Actually, as change of pace I would like to see a actual trip report filed by you with the following information:

Souce where you procured the prostitute; services the prostitute provided; price you paid for the prostitute. An excellent example of actual report that contains useful information is below:

Instead of bad internet porn:

But this is the Thailand Lounge and Chat thread so there is no requirement that every post in this section be a trip report or related to a girl. Only loosely related to Thailand.Many of my bar fines are similar to yours:

Go to a GC, find a lady, pay her bar fine (1000 baht), give her 2000 baht for LT.

SubCmdr
09-10-24, 15:11
I told ATF it was time to up our game a bit. I wanted to go once a week to the best spots she could find in Pattaya regardless of cost! And once again she hit a drop the bat and watch, walk off home run!

SHALOBA by the sea

On the third floor over looking beach road and the ocean. You need a reservation to to get a table. ATF and I did not have one. Our first time at this spot and she didn't know anything about it. So, we just hit the bar because we wanted to watch the sunset. I have to admit I was a little taken aback by the drink prices. Let me just say that those with alligator arms need not show up.

This is a place that was full of Thai people who had it like that and wanted to see and be seen by other. The girls were dressed up and the eye candy was fierce. I felt underdressed. Would have like to have on slacks and a jacket. But ATF likes it when I dress casually instead of formally. I should have taken the clue when she told be she was going to get her hair done and showed up in a dress and heels but sometimes I can be a little dense.

We ordered our drinks, people watched, small talked, watch the sun go down while soothing chill music played in the background. We watched the bartenders making their drinks with more precision and showmanship than I have ever seen since I've been in Thailand. The bar manager was very attentive to us. Or maybe it was to ATF (she is the pretty one of the couple). It was an outstanding experience. We both wound up ordering multiple drinks. I tried both the margarita (it was perfectly balanced with just a hint of sweetness) and the Mojito which was just straight off the chain. The best one I have had since I have been in Thailand. When the bill came ATF took care of it. At first I was not so sure about the drink prices. But I am telling you gentleman, if you are the the type that enjoy the finer things in life. It was worth every THB. It has been added to the list as one of The Cmdrs spots.

We were both hungry, so we headed off to the dinner spot to continue date night which will be outlined in a post to follow.

Here is what a person who doesn't even post information about Pattaya or ThaiFriendly thinks of me:


I still don't like you. I think you're a narcissist who doesn't have much respect for other people.But look at what a individual who is extremely knowledgable about Pattaya and provides a lot of great information about the place and Thailand in general says about me:


At least Sub posts reports. Whether you love him or hate him, he contributes useful info.Real Recognize Real

CaliGuy33
09-11-24, 04:24
As a change of pace, here is a post about a woman.

I have a lady come over once a week, every Monday night. Her deal is that she is a "Dee", she usually goes with Tomboys, except when she needs money.

When I lick her pussy, I notice that she has a tiny clit, almost a pit rather than a mini-dick, and really hard to access. She will spread her pussy lips with her hand so I can get at it. From her reaction, she likes the licking, but it doesn't get her off. Because she likes it hard, and there is only so much I can do.

So, her Tomboy has the equipment to put lots of pressure on her clit in a way I can't do.

Fortunately, I'm the customer, so it's her job to take care of me, I just like to warm her up.

When she is hard up for cash, she will get a Farang "boyfriend", but she can only go without cumming for so long before she finds a Tomboy.LOL. A classic Explorer post, our resident carpet muncher, this man has the Pattaya vagina eating scene on lock! Explorer is a certified scuba diver!

Mr Enternational
09-11-24, 07:03
I wanted to go once a week to the best spots she could find in Pattaya The Glass House and Rimpa Lapin.

Explorer8939
09-11-24, 14:36
LOL. A classic Explorer post, our resident carpet muncher, this man has the Pattaya vagina eating scene on lock! Explorer is a certified scuba diver!Most of the time, I just do it to get their juices flowing.

But there are a few ladies who crave it, or can only get off via external stimulation.

If a lady tells me that she has cum after 3 minutes, then she's just going through the motions, and I don't bother again.

SubCmdr
09-11-24, 21:05
The Glass House and Rimpa Lapin.Have you actually been? Your thoughts?

Mr Enternational
09-12-24, 09:34
Have you actually been? Your thoughts?Plenty of times. Food is better at Glass House. Rimpa is more for the view. I always get the fried fish at Rimpa. Other than that it is standard Thai fare. At Rimpa, bring mosquito spray same as the Pratumnak places like Sky Gallery.

Horatio
09-13-24, 15:28
Is there a cheap easy way to store a suitcase in Thailand? I want to travel a bit with just a backpack. Thanks.

Mr Enternational
09-13-24, 15:42
Is there a cheap easy way to store a suitcase in Thailand? I want to travel a bit with just a backpack. Thanks.My buddy leaves his at the hotel that he always stays at. So just ask your hotel to keep it for you.

BionicMan
09-13-24, 15:49
Is there a cheap easy way to store a suitcase in Thailand? I want to travel a bit with just a backpack. Thanks.Suvarnabhumi airport has two storages. Something like 100 baht / day and I think for a maximum of 30 days (but don't quote me on that).

Otherwise you can try with your base hotel on town. A tip might help.

SubCmdr
09-19-24, 17:22
I went out in Pattaya. A girl sucked my dick right out in the open in the establishment where she worked. CIM. It was fun. No sitting on my face. I like to breathe. I don't pay to eat pussy.

D Cups
09-19-24, 22:31
I went out in Pattaya. A girl sucked my dick right out in the open in the establishment where she worked. CIM. It was fun. No sitting on my face. I like to breathe. I don't pay to eat pussy.Where was this, Sub?

SubCmdr
09-20-24, 07:22
To my ISG Brothers mongering in Thailand:

Are any of my ISG Brothers routinely paying 1200 THB for Long Time? Can you let me know how you are doing that?

I do not do long time so I would like others who do to fill in my information gap.

If Long Time is say on average 8 hours, how much of that long time is spent actually fucking opposed to sleeping?

Now, If you like to fuck first thing in the morning and you get that morning nut out of her for a 2 nut night then your cost per orgasm (CPO) is indeed 600 THB at 1200 THB for Long Time. You are getting your nuts at half price compared to me. But I am not hating. I do not want to sleep next to strangers. I've got ATF for that. I know her. I can sleep peacefully without worries. 1200 THB a nut is fine for me. And represents and excellent value in my book.

Over a year of hiring prostitutes here in Pattaya and I have only a few outliers. 500,600, 800 THB. Everyone falls into the 1000 - 2000 not including beer (in room) or Lady Drinks (in beer bars, Agogos or Gentleman's Clubs).

So, tell me my ISG brothers am I getting ripped off because I am paying the same amount for Short Time my other ISG brothers are paying for Long Time?

I don't know. But I wanna know.

Mr Enternational
09-20-24, 17:14
To my ISG Brothers mongering in Thailand:

Are any of my ISG Brothers routinely paying 1200 THB for Long Time? Can you let me know how you are doing that?

I do not do long time so I would like others who do to fill in my information gap.I have showed this 1000 times. It is no mystery. How are you doing it for short time? How are you getting a chick to suck your dick or anything else? You tell them what you want and what you are going to pay for it. The same way you can tell a chick that you want her to come for short time for 1000, you can tell her you want her to come long time for 1200. Where is the mystery?

SubCmdr
09-20-24, 20:07
Over a year of hiring prostitutes here in Pattaya and I have only a few outliers. 500,600, 800 THB. Everyone falls into the 1000 - 2000 not including beer (in room) or Lady Drinks (in beer bars, Agogos or Gentleman's Clubs).This is for short time

The questions are as follows:


So, tell me my ISG brothers am I getting ripped off because I am paying the same amount for Short Time my other ISG brothers are paying for Long Time?


If Long Time is say on average 8 hours, how much of that long time is spent actually fucking opposed to sleeping?


You tell them what you want and what you are going to pay for it.So, what is the price of short time? Are you are saying that those who pay 1000 - 1200 for short time are getting ripped off because you are paying the same amount for long time?


The same way you can tell a chick that you want her to come for short time for 1000, you can tell her you want her to come long time for 1200.Once again you are asserting that you get long time for the same price as short time. Are you saying that those paying short time pricing are getting ripped off. That the average short time price is 500 - 600 THB?.

While we are at it can you tell me why you used and example of pricing in Pattaya, Thailand in the Colombia Rants thread?

Anytime you are ready, we can meet at the Bus Bar. I got the first round.

How you like me now?


Now, If you like to fuck first thing in the morning and you get that morning nut out of her for a 2 nut night then your cost per orgasm (CPO) is indeed 600 THB at 1200 THB for Long Time. You are getting your nuts at half price compared to me. But I am not hating. I do not want to sleep next to strangers. I've got ATF for that. I know her. I can sleep peacefully without worries. 1200 THB a nut is fine for me. And represents and excellent value in my book.I don't do long time. I have said this many times. But less than 1000. But the brag is about others paying the same for short time as others pay for long time. The questions are about Short Time pricing. The above questions remain unanswered.

UglyAzzMan
09-21-24, 00:23
I have showed this 1000 times. It is no mystery. How are you doing it for short time? How are you getting a chick to suck your dick or anything else? You tell them what you want and what you are going to pay for it. The same way you can tell a chick that you want her to come for short time for 1000, you can tell her you want her to come long time for 1200. Where is the mystery?The Dud would have no Problem getting Uglies 1,200 long time.

Axel Heyst
09-21-24, 15:12
If Long Time is say on average 8 hours, how much of that long time is spent actually fucking opposed to sleeping?

Now, If you like to fuck first thing in the morning and you get that morning nut out of her for a 2 nut night then your cost per orgasm (CPO) is indeed 600 THB at 1200 THB for Long Time. You are getting your nuts at half price compared to me. But I am not hating. I do not want to sleep next to strangers. SubCmdr, I sort of feel the same way as you (God help me) on the issue of LT vs ST. My personal preference is actually for what I call modified ST which means anywhere from 2 to 7 hours (no sleep overs / no clock watching, multiple shags, dinner, hanging out and relaxing with my girl over a bottle of red wine, tequila or weed) depending on how much I like a girl. I never had much of a problem arranging this with my repeat Go Go Girls pre-covid at no additional cost and I have no problem arranging this with my repeat SP boate girls currently this does come with a slight increased cost. I wonder; however, how easy modified ST would be to arrange with BKK Go Go girls now. I guess I will have to return to BKK / Pattaya to find out.

So, this is my preference, but I accept ST with oily and soapy massage girls and SP clinica girls because this is the default and the way it has always been as far back as I can remember. (Sometimes I would arrange for a favorite massage girl to come by my hotel early before her shift for more a personal ST shag and I could be her 1st customer of the day.)

As for LT and by that I do mean sleep overs, here is my take: I find it hard to fall asleep with new girls unless I am in the habit and LT happens to be the default of a particular town & venue which enables me to get used to the routine after a few sleepless nights. This was always what happened whenever I was visiting AC, Subic, or Cebu City pre-covid. IE once I got used to sleeping with a girl in my bed, usually after 2 or 3 nights of sleepless tossing and turning LT, I no longer had a problem falling asleep with the girls spending the entire night including sleeping with 2 girls. It just becomes a habit and then it is fun.

And when it is fun I particularly enjoy middle of the night shags, and that 1st morning wake up shag. Sadly, I hear LT is no longer the default in AC. Too bad, because the change from the LT EWR (early work release) to ST is a huge mongering loss whether one enjoys sleepovers or does not like them. As a result, I doubt I will ever return to AC although I still have a hankering to return to Makati where there was always a choice between ST, modified ST, and LT with Makati Go Go girls and I never had a problem setting up my preferred modified ST arrangement at no additional cost with all my repeat Makati girls.

SubCmdr
09-21-24, 15:47
Where was this, Sub?The only reason I will answer this question is because we have a positive history of interaction going back a while.

Lips Lounge: located on Soi Honey. Lady Drink: 150 THB, gets your dick sucked right there in the bar. 500 THB for CIM right there in the bar. 300 - 400 THB room fee (cannot remember). 1000 THB Bar Fine. Discount on Lady Drinks on Thursdays. Opens at 1900. Enjoy!

SubCmdr
09-21-24, 21:12
Axel Heyst,

That was an excellent and informative post. All mongers should be able to get what they want. After all they are paying for it. Thank your for using my correct handle.

For me that is short time. For others long time. But there is an individual that makes a point of saying he gets long time for 1200 THB. Implying that if your are paying that for ST you are somehow over paying. I have been here now for 13 months. And as I pointed out only 3 girls accepted less than 1000 THB for Short Time. No one else has chimed in to say they are getting short time for less than 1000 THB. That is my point. That is why I've asked the question. I appreciate your input on the subject.


SubCmdr, I sort of feel the same way as you (God help me) on the issue of LT vs ST. My personal preference is actually for what I call modified ST which means anywhere from 2 to 7 hours (no sleep overs / no clock watching, multiple shags, dinner, hanging out and relaxing with my girl over a bottle of red wine, tequila or weed) depending on how much I like a girl. I never had much of a problem arranging this with my repeat Go Go Girls pre-covid at no additional cost and I have no problem arranging this with my repeat SP boate girls currently this does come with a slight increased cost. I wonder; however, how easy modified ST would be to arrange with BKK Go Go girls now. I guess I will have to return to BKK / Pattaya to find out.

So, this is my preference, but I accept ST with oily and soapy massage girls and SP clinica girls because this is the default and the way it has always been as far back as I can remember. (Sometimes I would arrange for a favorite massage girl to come by my hotel early before her shift for more a personal ST shag and I could be her 1st customer of the day.)

As for LT and by that I do mean sleep overs, here is my take: I find it hard to fall asleep with new girls unless I am in the habit and LT happens to be the default of a particular town & venue which enables me to get used to the routine after a few sleepless nights. This was always what happened whenever I was visiting AC, Subic, or Cebu City pre-covid. IE once I got used to sleeping with a girl in my bed, usually after 2 or 3 nights of sleepless tossing and turning LT, I no longer had a problem falling asleep with the girls spending the entire night including sleeping with 2 girls. It just becomes a habit and then it is fun.

And when it is fun I particularly enjoy middle of the night shags, and that 1st morning wake up shag. Sadly, I hear LT is no longer the default in AC. Too bad, because the change from the LT EWR (early work release) to ST is a huge mongering loss whether one enjoys sleepovers or does not like them. As a result, I doubt I will ever return to AC although I still have a hankering to return to Makati where there was always a choice between ST, modified ST, and LT with Makati Go Go girls and I never had a problem setting up my preferred modified ST arrangement at no additional cost with all my repeat Makati girls.

Explorer8939
09-22-24, 00:18
Oops.

A freelancer who I did BB last month sent me a message that she wants to talk to me upon my return to Pattaya next month.

This happened to me last year, different freelancer. She was knocked up and looking for a wealthy baby daddy. But she had a regular customer from the US who was the real baby daddy and she knew I knew it.

Explorer8939
09-22-24, 16:19
I was minding my own business last night when I got a friend request on Facebook from a Thai model. Immediately after accepting, I got a flurry of messages, in English.

Anyone with a brain understands what was going on.

Anyway, I tried to disengage politely multiple times, she (or rather her Farang boyfriend) was persistent, so I stopped answering and went to sleep.

Anyone get this kind of contact with Thai Facebook models?

SubCmdr
09-23-24, 11:08
Why do people who spend most of their time outside of Thailand continue to dispute the information those of us who actually live in Thailand contribute to the forum?

Gsi2810
09-23-24, 16:48
SubCmdr, I sort of feel the same way as you (God help me) on the issue of LT vs ST. My personal preference is actually for what I call modified ST which means anywhere from 2 to 7 hours (no sleep overs / no clock watching, multiple shags, dinner, hanging out and relaxing with my girl over a bottle of red wine, tequila or weed) depending on how much I like a girl. I never had much of a problem arranging this with my repeat Go Go Girls pre-covid at no additional cost and I have no problem arranging this with my repeat SP boate girls currently this does come with a slight increased cost. I wonder; however, how easy modified ST would be to arrange with BKK Go Go girls now. I guess I will have to return to BKK / Pattaya to find out.

So, this is my preference, but I accept ST with oily and soapy massage girls and SP clinica girls because this is the default and the way it has always been as far back as I can remember. (Sometimes I would arrange for a favorite massage girl to come by my hotel early before her shift for more a personal ST shag and I could be her 1st customer of the day.)

As for LT and by that I do mean sleep overs, here is my take: I find it hard to fall asleep with new girls unless I am in the habit and LT happens to be the default of a particular town & venue which enables me to get used to the routine after a few sleepless nights. This was always what happened whenever I was visiting AC, Subic, or Cebu City pre-covid. IE once I got used to sleeping with a girl in my bed, usually after 2 or 3 nights of sleepless tossing and turning LT, I no longer had a problem falling asleep with the girls spending the entire night including sleeping with 2 girls. It just becomes a habit and then it is fun.

And when it is fun I particularly enjoy middle of the night shags, and that 1st morning wake up shag. Sadly, I hear LT is no longer the default in AC. Too bad, because the change from the LT EWR (early work release) to ST is a huge mongering loss whether one enjoys sleepovers or does not like them. As a result, I doubt I will ever return to AC although I still have a hankering to return to Makati where there was always a choice between ST, modified ST, and LT with Makati Go Go girls and I never had a problem setting up my preferred modified ST arrangement at no additional cost with all my repeat Makati girls.My man this is the way! Teach me sensei. I feel if I do LT there will be too much sleeping ideal time is to meet in the evening and have a good time together. How do you pull this off if you don't mind sharing. I would really like some more variety in my mongering other than 1000 Baht one and done ST in 30 minutes tops.

Mr Enternational
09-23-24, 19:04
But there is an individual that makes a point of saying he gets long time for 1200 THB. Implying that if your are paying that for ST you are somehow over paying.Did the person explicitly say if you are paying 1200 for ST then you are overpaying, or is that just your assumption?

SubCmdr
09-24-24, 01:43
Did the person explicitly say if you are paying 1200 for ST then you are overpaying, or is that just your assumption?Neither, the question is on the table. But the person could clarify his statements but for some reason has chosen to be obtuse in his responses.

This is what the person wrote:

I have friends in Thailand that have fucked the same chicks that I have. Found out that for some reason my friends give them $60 for short time while I give them $30 for long time.


So, tell me my ISG brothers am I getting ripped off because I am paying the same amount for Short Time my other ISG brothers are paying for Long Time?

I don't know. But I wanna know.

Explorer8939
09-25-24, 01:58
It's so quiet in Pattaya right now that bar girls are trying to make dates with me after I return to Thailand. Next month.

Customers are few and far between. The exception are the bar girls who are getting visits from their "boyfriends", September seems a big month for that.

Horatio
09-25-24, 16:42
How do prices in hua hin compare to pattaya? Is it somewhat accurate to think of hua hin as pattaya lite? Are there gogo bars and gentleman clubs there? I'm looking for a place to rent for longterm that is inexpensive with not quite the seedy reputation of pattaya but still plenty of bar girls. Thanks for any information you might give me.

Explorer8939
09-25-24, 18:35
How do prices in hua hin compare to pattaya? Is it somewhat accurate to think of hua hin as pattaya lite? Are there gogo bars and gentleman clubs there? I'm looking for a place to rent for longterm that is inexpensive with not quite the seedy reputation of pattaya but still plenty of bar girls. Thanks for any information you might give me.You might consider Jomtien or Pratumnak as an alternative to Pattaya. Not so seedy, but not so far.

HorseTrader
09-25-24, 23:38
How do prices in hua hin compare to pattaya? Is it somewhat accurate to think of hua hin as pattaya lite? Are there gogo bars and gentleman clubs there? I'm looking for a place to rent for longterm that is inexpensive with not quite the seedy reputation of pattaya but still plenty of bar girls. Thanks for any information you might give me.Hua Hin doesn't have enough action to be considered Pattaya lite. 98% of Hua Hin is wholesome, you could take your mother there and not feel embarrassed. I haven't visited Hua Hin since late 2022, but at that time girl prices seemed to be a smidge higher than Pattaya.

SubCmdr
09-26-24, 06:49
If you think so, then maybe you need to get out and see the world a bit.


Some of us don't care about $20. Bangkok is a world class city, Pattaya is not. I'll pay the extra $20. If you can't afford it, Patts is for you.Bangkok is a hell hole. Polluted, crowed, massive traffic and devoid of all charm or character. A concrete monstrosity that I stay out of unless I really need to be there to take care of something. Plus I get to save 20 USD. I am poor and I care about that. LOL!.

Explorer8939
09-27-24, 19:00
Of the women I know in Pattaya who are over 40,90% are sick. Either they have some chronic disease, or they are in and out of a clinic.

They look good, but are bad inside. Most of them either have a Farang "boyfriend" who comes once a year and sends them money, or are on the hunt for one. They can keep it together when their honey is around, but once he's gone, it's off to the hospital.

SubCmdr
09-27-24, 21:38
So a 52 year old tell me she is looking for a boyfriend. But it turns out she works massage. She wants 1500 in the massage shop for a 1 hour oil massage followed by a blowjob happy ending. She offers the same in my room for 1500. I tell her I will only pay her 1000 in the shop and 800 in the room. She tells me to find another lady. I laugh to myself.

Who in the mother fuck fuckity fuck fuck is paying a 52 year old money like that? I have a line of Thai Friendly girls waiting to come over and will allow me to blow my sponge up in them for 1000 (age range 20 - 30).

GTF!

Banana Boi
09-29-24, 20:28
If I book a flight to BKK on a 60 day Visa with the intention of extending my stay to 90 days is the IO going to ask me to show a flight departing Thailand within 60 days or can I book a flight departing within 90 days?

Werqweq
09-29-24, 20:53
If I book a flight to BKK on a 60 day Visa with the intention of extending my stay to 90 days is the IO going to ask me to show a flight departing Thailand within 60 days or can I book a flight departing within 90 days?That would depend on whether the IO is going to ask you at all. If he asks, then yes, you will need to show within 60 days.

After traveling in and out of Thailand for almost 20 years now, I was for the first time ever asked by an IO last August, when returning to Bangkok after 4-5 days in Jakarta, to show proof of my flight out of Thailand within the next 30 days. Never happened before, though it has happened the airlines ask before boarding for Thailand (they would also require you to show within 60 days in your case). If worried about that, I'd book a fully refundable one-way ticket to some nearby country.

P.S. I think at the moment you get 60 days visa exempt when entering Thailand, if you before got only 30, so maybe you do not need a (tourist?) visa.

SubCmdr
09-29-24, 21:49
If I book a flight to BKK on a 60 day Visa with the intention of extending my stay to 90 days is the IO going to ask me to show a flight departing Thailand within 60 days or can I book a flight departing within 90 days?On my last trip on Delta before the rules changed. I was allowed a 30 day stay under a visa exemption with the opportunity to request an additional 30 days visa extension of the visa that I never received on arrival. All very confusing to me.

But Delta was very insistent that I have a visa because I had booked my flight to leave within 60 days of my arrival. It took a major effort and running up several layers of management. But acknowledging on the record that I could be refused entry and all expenses would be on me.

When I arrived I was not asked anything by the IO. Now, I know a lot of posters up in here would have been a lot happier had I been refused entry to Thailand. How unfortunate for them. LOL!

How you like me now

Mr Enternational
09-29-24, 22:45
If I book a flight to BKK on a 60 day Visa with the intention of extending my stay to 90 days is the IO going to ask me to show a flight departing Thailand within 60 days or can I book a flight departing within 90 days?You just go to the office and fill out the paper for the extension and pay the 1800 or 1900 baht and they staple the slip in your passport. In Pattaya you do not have to show flight info.

Nyezhov
09-30-24, 00:29
That would depend on whether the IO is going to ask you at all. If he asks, then yes, you will need to show within 60 days.

After traveling in and out of Thailand for almost 20 years now, I was for the first time ever asked by an IO last August, when returning to Bangkok after 4-5 days in Jakarta, to show proof of my flight out of Thailand within the next 30 days. Never happened before, though it has happened the airlines ask before boarding for Thailand (they would also require you to show within 60 days in your case). If worried about that, I'd book a fully refundable one-way ticket to some nearby country.

P.S. I think at the moment you get 60 days visa exempt when entering Thailand, if you before got only 30, so maybe you do not need a (tourist?) visa.Never been asked for a outbound ticket by immigration. I have been asked by the airlines. Phuket to Malaysia or hatyai I to Malaysia via air asia are cheap tickets if you need one.

BionicMan
09-30-24, 02:20
If I book a flight to BKK on a 60 day Visa with the intention of extending my stay to 90 days is the IO going to ask me to show a flight departing Thailand within 60 days or can I book a flight departing within 90 days?It won't be the IO on arrival to ask you, but the check in agent at origin point to ask you whether you have a visa covering the whole period till the ticket departure date. They know about the 60 days stamp with no visa. So anything above the 60 days needs a visa. They see your return flight in the system.

EverythingThai
09-30-24, 02:35
If I book a flight to BKK on a 60 day Visa with the intention of extending my stay to 90 days is the IO going to ask me to show a flight departing Thailand within 60 days or can I book a flight departing within 90 days?


It won't be the IO on arrival to ask you.Here is the complete answer. Sorry Bionic Man but you can't predict what immigration will do. I know this because its my job to know, plus I've seen examples that would contradict your statement. The immigration officer and your airline have the right to ask you to show a return or onward flight within the period of the initial 60 days. The immigration officer has the right to also ask for proof of travel funds in the amount of 20,000 Baht or equivalent in foreign currency and proof of accommodation.

Will they or will they not ask, that is the question. Let's start with the airline. This is an easy answer. Call them and ask them their policy. Then act accordingly. That may mean you buying a cheap throw away ticket to Cambodia for example. For immigration, they will check your previous travel history, age, appearance and consider the way you talk. As there is now no limit by air, land or sea on how many times you can enter in one year by visa exemption, it's all up to the discretion of the officer now.

My advice to you is not to leave anything to chance. Buy yourself a cheap throw away ticket to show your airline and immigration if they ask. Then do your 30 day extension as normal and have fun. However, generally you won't be asked anything by immigration if your travel history is not tainted with many visa exempt entries. Hope this helps.

BionicMan
09-30-24, 06:30
Here is the complete answer. Sorry Bionic Man but you can't predict what immigration will do. I know this because its my job to know, plus I've seen examples that would contradict your statement. The immigration officer and your airline have the right to ask you to show a return or onward flight within the period of the initial 60 days. The immigration officer has the right to also ask for proof of travel funds in the amount of 20,000 Baht or equivalent in foreign currency and proof of accommodation.

Will they or will they not ask, that is the question. Let's start with the airline. This is an easy answer. Call them and ask them their policy. Then act accordingly. That may mean you buying a cheap throw away ticket to Cambodia for example. For immigration, they will check your previous travel history, age, appearance and consider the way you talk. As there is now no limit by air, land or sea on how many times you can enter in one year by visa exemption, it's all up to the discretion of the officer now.

My advice to you is not to leave anything to chance. Buy yourself a cheap throw away ticket to show your airline and immigration if they ask. Then do your 30 day extension as normal and have fun. However, generally you won't be asked anything by immigration if your travel history is not tainted with many visa exempt entries. Hope this helps.The matter of the fact is that the check in agent will filter the passengers. So, whether the IO will ask or not, it's the check in agent asking 100% of cases should your ticket not fit with the standard rule. "Are you a resident? "do you hold a 90 days visa. ". These are the common questions. If one fails, boarding will be denied.

The IO, if you come from a reliable origin will have no reason to ask as he knows you have been cleared at origin. Random checks might be performed, a deeper check might happen if he has suspicious, or your name is in a black list (check in agent does know this), or you overstayed, or you have been in the country far too many days than normal for a tourist. It's not the number of entries the issue.

It is worth mentioning that on case the check in agent fails to check evidences, as allowing to board someone with no visa or so, the airline will be fined by 5 k $ and will have to return the passenger with the first flight back.

I was denied boarding once as I didn't have a yellow fever vaccination. It took a good half an hour of message exchanges with destination station to let me board. On arrival I was picked up by airline rep from the plane, brought to a separate IO booth, where the officer was aware, passport got stamped and I was taken to the medical officer for vaccination, then I was let free.

EverythingThai
09-30-24, 06:38
The matter of the fact is that the check in agent will filter the passengers. So, whether the IO will ask or not, it's the check in agent asking 100% of cases should your ticket not fit with the standard rule. "Are you a resident? "do you hold a 90 days visa. ". These are the common questions. If one fails, boarding will be denied.

The IO, if you come from a reliable origin will have no reason to ask as he knows you have been cleared at origin. Random checks might be performed, a deeper check might happen if he has suspicious, or your name is in a black list (check in agent does know this), or you overstayed, or you have been in the country far too many days than normal for a tourist. It's not the number of entries the issue.

It is worth mentioning that on case the check in agent fails to check evidences, as allowing to board someone with no visa or so, the airline will be fined by 5 k $ and will have to return the passenger with the first flight back.

I was denied boarding once as I didn't have a yellow fever vaccination. It took a good half an hour of message exchanges with destination station to let me board. On arrival I was picked up by airline rep from the plane, brought to a separate IO booth, where the officer was aware, passport got stamped and I was taken to the medical officer for vaccination, then I was let free.Lordy Lordy Lordy. Not another one. The flaw in your logic, and its your own logic and not a fact, is this. If what you say is true, nobody would ever get refused entry. So how would you explain the three clients of mine from the US just last week being refused entry? They were screened by the airline but the IO still refused them entry. Why? Because they had travelled here too often as a tourist. Your logic is completely false and the facts are completely false. IOs refuse entry all the time. Thats right. Even when the passenger was cleared by the airline. What makes you think the airline is the only line of defense and the IOs do nothing. You are dead wrong mate. Sorry to say. This is my job and I know what I am talking about. I have witnessed people being refused entry for using the visa exemption too many times and also for being in the country too long, as well as just being a long term tourist. Ive seen it all.

There is another forum that will remain nameless where countless people debate for hours on end about this kind of shit. If thats what you want to do, then going there to debate this would be better. In the end the op needs a return or onward flight within the 60 days and thats the end of the story.

EverythingThai
09-30-24, 06:44
You just go to the office and fill out the paper for the extension and pay the 1800 or 1900 baht and they staple the slip in your passport. In Pattaya you do not have to show flight info. Technically, this is also not correct. Although the exit flight is not a listed requirement for the 30 day extension, the IOs ask this sometimes when doing the extension. Just like the IOs in Pattaya that ask to to see the TM30 to do the 30 extension when the IOs in Bangkok do not care. So. I have seen incidences where the IO did ask for the flight out before granting the 30 day extension. The officer decides.

In the OPs case, we covered the most likely time he would be asked and that is before boarding his flight and at the entry desk after he arrives in Thailand.

Mua Tur
09-30-24, 08:19
Technically, this is also not correct. Although the exit flight is not a listed requirement for the 30 day extension, the IOs ask this sometimes when doing the extension. Just like the IOs in Pattaya that ask to to see the TM30 to do the 30 extension when the IOs in Bangkok do not care. So. I have seen incidences where the IO did ask for the flight out before granting the 30 day extension. The officer decides.

In the OPs case, we covered the most likely time he would be asked and that is before boarding his flight and at the entry desk after he arrives in Thailand.I had made several times my visa extension in Bangkok but never been asked for return ticket.

Werqweq
09-30-24, 12:31
Never been asked for a outbound ticket by immigration. I have been asked by the airlines. Phuket to Malaysia or hatyai I to Malaysia via air asia are cheap tickets if you need one.Well, there's a first for everyone, and mine happened to be last August. I couldn't hear or understand clearly what the IO was saying to her colleague about me, but seemed to be related to me leaving Thailand some days earlier after using up my 30 days, and now coming back again.

I could have spent half the day at that shopping mall out in Laksi like I did last year for a 30 day extension instead (it had a decent gym where I could wait, so wasn't too bad, though not a great way to spend the day), but this time I decided to use it as an opportunity to be a sextourist in Jakarta for a few days instead. Jakarta was so great that I'll be doing the same next time probably.

Mr Enternational
09-30-24, 14:25
Technically, this is also not correct. It may be technically not correct, but it was my personal experience going through the process.

BionicMan
09-30-24, 17:12
Lordy Lordy Lordy. Not another one. The flaw in your logic, and its your own logic and not a fact, is this. If what you say is true, nobody would ever get refused entry. So how would you explain the three clients of mine from the US just last week being refused entry? They were screened by the airline but the IO still refused them entry. Why? Because they had travelled here too often as a tourist. Your logic is completely false and the facts are completely false. IOs refuse entry all the time. Thats right. Even when the passenger was cleared by the airline. What makes you think the airline is the only line of defense and the IOs do nothing. You are dead wrong mate. Sorry to say. This is my job and I know what I am talking about. I have witnessed people being refused entry for using the visa exemption too many times and also for being in the country too long, as well as just being a long term tourist. Ive seen it all.

There is another forum that will remain nameless where countless people debate for hours on end about this kind of shit. If thats what you want to do, then going there to debate this would be better. In the end the op needs a return or onward flight within the 60 days and thats the end of the story.And what did I say here?

The IO, if you come from a reliable origin will have no reason to ask as he knows you have been cleared at origin. Random checks might be performed, a deeper check might happen if he has suspicious, or your name is in a black list (check in agent does know this), or you overstayed, or you have been in the country far too many days than normal for a tourist. It's not the number of entries the issue.

And you think criminal records or overstays are shared worldwide?

How many people is stopped at US immigration as they have "forgot" to pay a traffic fine?

GettingTang
09-30-24, 21:34
Well, I'm about a month out from my big trip to Pattaya and I'm looking for the inside skinny on the best approach to work Thai friendly. I already have an account and I already have a LINE ID and I can already kind of see how it's like shooting fish in a barrel. The response rates etc this far is honestly almost overwhelming. I do not plan to only utilize Thai friendly. I want to experience all that Pattaya has to offer. Let's say you sign on to the website at 2 pm in the afternoon how easy is it to set up a couple of evening dates? How easy is it to set up a threesome maybe asking the girl if she has a friend she would like to bring? Is it suggested to set this up or communicate in advance or when you have your boots on the ground? How realistic is it to sign into the site and just start messaging those you see active online at that moment and then within a few hours have them at your hotel? How likely is it that I can set up a 4 AM date for my first night arrival is that's when My ETA is to roll into Pattaya from Bangkok international.

Also, should I be somewhat graphic in my description and describing what I'm seeking with them or just kind of let it play out upon arrival? I. e. I'm looking for BBFS, CIM etc? Whatever it might be.

I'll be boots on the ground from November 12 through 3 December if there's any other fellow mongers out there who would like to meet up, I'll buy you some beers. I've got a friend that I'm going to be hanging out with occasionally there. Always open to meeting other cool like minded mongers.

HorseTrader
09-30-24, 23:40
Well, I'm about a month out from my big trip to Pattaya and I'm looking for the inside skinny on the best approach to work Thai friendly.My recommendation is to start sending TF messages about an hour or two before you want her to walk through your door. Look for the ones who have been online in the last few minutes. Your first few choices might not reply, so don't count on any one particular girl. Use phases like "Are you available right now? My hotel is on Beach Road near Soi 13". After she replies, be sure to discuss details such as price, BBFS, CIM or whatever concerns you. If it's important to you, don't forget that BBFS does not always mean CIP and CIM does not always mean swallow. Use simple words, it is unlikely that she speaks fluent English and her translator app is not perfect.

Setting up advanced plans is easy, but her honoring those plans is hit and miss. Language differences can make re-scheduling frustrating. If you set an advanced appointment for 7:00 PM, she is unlikely to honor your appointment after she gets a subsequent offer for 6:00 PM. Don't expect honesty, this is Thailand.

Suggest you get comfortable with a single girl before you try a threesome.

Philip Marlow
10-01-24, 04:43
They were screened by the airline but the IO still refused them entry. Why? Because they had travelled here too often as a tourist. Thanks for the information. It's very interesting, especially about going there too often. If you don't mind, can you give figure of what constitutes too often? And what's the logic in denying entry to someone who visits too often?

XXL
10-01-24, 05:37
Well, I'm about a month out from my big trip to Pattaya and I'm looking for the inside skinny on the best approach to work Thai friendly. I already have an account and I already have a LINE ID and I can already kind of see how it's like shooting fish in a barrel. The response rates etc this far is honestly almost overwhelming. I do not plan to only utilize Thai friendly. I want to experience all that Pattaya has to offer. Let's say you sign on to the website at 2 pm in the afternoon how easy is it to set up a couple of evening dates? How easy is it to set up a threesome maybe asking the girl if she has a friend she would like to bring? Is it suggested to set this up or communicate in advance or when you have your boots on the ground? How realistic is it to sign into the site and just start messaging those you see active online at that moment and then within a few hours have them at your hotel? How likely is it that I can set up a 4 AM date for my first night arrival is that's when My ETA is to roll into Pattaya from Bangkok international.

Also, should I be somewhat graphic in my description and describing what I'm seeking with them or just kind of let it play out upon arrival? I. e. I'm looking for BBFS, CIM etc? Whatever it might be.

I'll be boots on the ground from November 12 through 3 December if there's any other fellow mongers out there who would like to meet up, I'll buy you some beers. I've got a friend that I'm going to be hanging out with occasionally there. Always open to meeting other cool like minded mongers.First try to have any of the TF girls that take your fancy answer you. You may find out that none of the 5 goodish-looking girls you've been messaging cares to answer. What doesn't help is that if you are a non-paying TF member you need to wait for 5 (or 10?) minutes before messaging back.

Then once a TF girl whom you fancy has replied and given you her line ID, try to get her to show up at all. If she shows up at all, it may not be within one hour of the appointed time. You may get stood up, put off, ghosted ... until you get disgusted of the online charade.

Quote: "The response rates etc this far is honestly almost overwhelming. " Is that true? You must be into MILFs then. If so, ThaiFriendly, indeed Pattaya as a whole, will be for you like shooting fish in a barrel. If however you want young hot spinners, you'll have to vie for them with guys who don't mind shelling out 5-10 thousand baht for SHORT time.

SubCmdr
10-01-24, 05:56
If however you want young hot spinners, you'll have to vie for them with guys who don't mind shelling out 5-10 thousand baht for SHORT time.Can someone please tell me how this changes in any market? Not just the pussy open air market known as Pattaya?

It doesn't! You a want a Ferrari you get on the waiting list and pay Ferrari prices. So, when it comes to Pattaya you know what you want. You know where you need to shop, you just go do it. If Pattaya is not the spot for you, everyone has an opportunity to find their spot in Thailand and the entire world that that has what you seek in the pussy market.

I do not have a problem finding girls in 18 - 20 to respond to me in Thai Friendly. And they show up. In 14 months of using Thai Friendly only had one no show. Actually I have more girls waiting to see me than I have time or money to see.

I only worry about the needs of my Big Black Dick. I'll let everyone else worry about theirs no matter what color it happens to be.

Nyezhov
10-01-24, 06:50
First try to have any of the TF girls that take your fancy answer you. You may find out that none of the 5 goodish-looking girls you've been messaging cares to answer. What doesn't help is that if you are a non-paying TF member you need to wait for 5 (or 10?) minutes before messaging back.

Then once a TF girl whom you fancy has replied and given you her line ID, try to get her to show up at all. If she shows up at all, it may not be within one hour of the appointed time. You may get stood up, put off, ghosted ... until you get disgusted of the online charade.

Quote: "The response rates etc this far is honestly almost overwhelming. " Is that true? You must be into MILFs then. If so, ThaiFriendly, indeed Pattaya as a whole, will be for you like shooting fish in a barrel. If however you want young hot spinners, you'll have to vie for them with guys who don't mind shelling out 5-10 thousand baht for SHORT time.There are some Thai Friendly girls who give their line ID but you can't ad them yourself because so many folks have added her already.

There are millions of IT employed Indians just attacking those girls's profiles in waves. I got quoted 10 K by one, I'm sure that's because I am old and ugly, but even if she doubled her fee for gross factor, that means some net girl in Pattaya wants 5 K, sight unseen.

I troll TF too, but I make them come to me. I get TONS of likes every day from MILFs and Grannies. But no real 18 year old hardbodies.

Allover
10-01-24, 08:12
If I book a flight to BKK on a 60 day Visa with the intention of extending my stay to 90 days is the IO going to ask me to show a flight departing Thailand within 60 days or can I book a flight departing within 90 days?I try not to leave anything to chance and book a flight out of Thailand within 60 (formerly 30) days. In my case I use frequent flyer miles to book a ticket out of Thailand ie 20,000 American Air miles from BKK to Japan. Just be sure to cancel that free flight out of Thailand before the date of the flight to get the miles redeposited and the taxes refunded. Obviously this only works if you have a good amount of frequent flyer miles.

Mr Enternational
10-01-24, 12:32
First try to have any of the TF girls that take your fancy answer you. You may find out that none of the 5 goodish-looking girls you've been messaging cares to answer. What doesn't help is that if you are a non-paying TF member you need to wait for 5 (or 10?) minutes before messaging back.

Then once a TF girl whom you fancy has replied and given you her line ID, try to get her to show up at all. If she shows up at all, it may not be within one hour of the appointed time. You may get stood up, put off, ghosted ... until you get disgusted of the online charade.

Quote: "The response rates etc this far is honestly almost overwhelming. " Is that true? You must be into MILFs then. If so, ThaiFriendly, indeed Pattaya as a whole, will be for you like shooting fish in a barrel. If however you want young hot spinners, you'll have to vie for them with guys who don't mind shelling out 5-10 thousand baht for SHORT time.You skipped a step. After you get her Line ID, you have to hope she answers you in Line.

I have asked girls why they do not answer the messages on Thai Friendly or why it takes them so long, and they all say there are just too many guys and they can not keep up with all the messages. That is one reason a lot of chicks say only message them if you are in town. It is a big waste of time for them to be talking to someone they are not going to get immediate money from, when they can not keep up with all the messages in the first place.

It is a Murphy's Law thing with dating apps. If you are not in town then there is overwhelming interest in you. But as soon as you touch down you are like what happened to the overwhelming response rate.

That is why HT was saying to start 1 hour before. It is like waiting 3 weeks to go to a restaurant to eat a certain dish. You will be less disappointed if you walked in off the street, looked at the menu, and they tell you it is not available, than if you waited 3 weeks, building up anxiousness, went through hell and high water to get to the restaurant, just for them to tell you it is not available. Spur of the moment is the way to go with hookers.

XXL
10-01-24, 14:50
There are some Thai Friendly girls who give their line ID but you can't ad them yourself because so many folks have added her already.
...Indeed the girls who post their Line ID on their TF profiles are precisely the girls it is useless to try and contact through their TF profile Line IDs. That's because the male masses trolling TF on a daily basis are already spamming them on that very same Line ID.

The girls who can be contacted through Line are the girls who only give you their Line ID after you message them through the TF app.

YogaMax23
10-01-24, 15:30
Due to a stolen iPhone, I cannot get access to my old Line account. Have tried literally everything and Line customer service is non-existent.

Is it possible to contact girls via WhatsApp or am I kinda screwed without Line access? Aside from buying a burner Android phone and logging in with my google account, I cannot think of a way to get on the app with my iphone.

BionicMan
10-01-24, 18:23
Thanks for the information. It's very interesting, especially about going there too often. If you don't mind, can you give figure of what constitutes too often? And what's the logic in denying entry to someone who visits too often?It's fully up to the individual IO, in any country. His judgement, his call, his decision. I entered Thailand for many years from 10 to 20 times a year, from half a day to 2 weeks. Stampa fully visible, but no one expressed any concern. Sometime got a smile when mentioning "tourism", just like "I know what you are up to, thai girls".

A lady frequent flier on Air France first class, multi entries to USA, was denied entry by the IO because she was looking distressed (she had her period and her face was not relaxe). No way. Sent back!

Nyezhov
10-01-24, 20:24
It's fully up to the individual IO, in any country. His judgement, his call, his decision. I entered Thailand for many years from 10 to 20 times a year, from half a day to 2 weeks. Stampa fully visible, but no one expressed any concern. Sometime got a smile when mentioning "tourism", just like "I know what you are up to, thai girls".

A lady frequent flier on Air France first class, multi entries to USA, was denied entry by the IO because she was looking distressed (she had her period and her face was not relaxe). No way. Sent back!I've been thru Aranyaphrathet twice this year already. Hand passport over with a Hello, how are you, it's shopping time! Stamp, smile, have a nice day.

HorseTrader
10-01-24, 22:45
Due to a stolen iPhone, I cannot get access to my old Line account. Have tried literally everything and Line customer service is non-existentAssuming you've done appropriate backups to iCloud and/or your computer using iTunes, you should lose nothing. Go to the Apple Store and buy a new phone. They will even guide you to recovering your data. I’m on about my 5th iPhone since I started using Line and I’ve lost nothing. If you haven't done backups, you are screwed.

Banana Boi
10-02-24, 05:48
Wondering if anyone has gone to Copper Beyond Buffet at Gaysorn Amarin? Is it worth the hefty 2600 to 4800 baht price tag?

Nyezhov
10-02-24, 06:41
Wondering if anyone has gone to Copper Beyond Buffet at Gaysorn Amarin? Is it worth the hefty 2600 to 4800 baht price tag?I use Eatigo. I have been going to the Buffet recently at the Orchid Cafe and Seasonal tastes, in the T21 fancy hotel area.

Horntoad
10-02-24, 09:25
Wondering if anyone has gone to Copper Beyond Buffet at Gaysorn Amarin? Is it worth the hefty 2600 to 4800 baht price tag?The quality is definitely very good and I think it's worth trying at least once. I would go for the basic package the first time unless you're sure you want to try one of the premium ones that have either lobster, tomahawk steak, caviar, lamb etc. There was enough for me to be satisfied with just the basic buffet but my friend that booked the more expensive one with lobster tail and caviar. I don't eat caviar so I felt it was a waste to book that package. I think the branch at The Sense Pinklao is less expensive. If you want to book the one at Gaysorn Amarin, you usually have to book a few days in advance especially for the weekends.

If you want a less expensive option that is pretty good, you can try Wisdom International Buffet at a one of their branches close by at Siam Paragon or Siam Square One.

https://www.facebook.com/WisdomBuffetTH/

There's different price points for that one but we usually get the 1200 baht one and everyone is satisfied.

Explorer8939
10-02-24, 16:45
Fuck!

I went to Windmill a few years before COVID, and bar fines a gorgeous creature. Very rare for Windmill.

I got her Facebook ID, and followed her. She left Windmill after a couple of days, and worked in Taiwan and Korea. Along the way, she did a bunch of plastic surgery. Eventually, she ended up in England.

About a year ago, she stopped posting.

Today, I saw her funeral announcement. She died from colon cancer.

Explorer8939
10-03-24, 16:22
I was planning to take a Thai lady to Brazil in December, but she reported that she has a new customer boyfriend from Sweden and can't go. I will still go to Brazil, because I have a Tijuana lady lined up for January.

But that leaves a big hole in my schedule for December.

I was thinking of spending December alone in Brazil, but I realized if I fly Emirates BKK-GRU, I get a free stopover in Dubai.

Maybe I go with a Thai lady for a week or two in Dubai, and then send her home and go on to Brazil alone.

Decisions, decisions.

Nyezhov
10-03-24, 20:54
I was planning to take a Thai lady to Brazil in December, but she reported that she has a new customer boyfriend from Sweden and can't go. I will still go to Brazil, because I have a Tijuana lady lined up for January.

But that leaves a big hole in my schedule for December.

I was thinking of spending December alone in Brazil, but I realized if I fly Emirates BKK-GRU, I get a free stopover in Dubai.

Maybe I go with a Thai lady for a week or two in Dubai, and then send her home and go on to Brazil alone.

Decisions, decisions.Go to Dubai alone and smash Russian girls.

EverythingThai
10-04-24, 02:56
Due to a stolen iPhone, I cannot get access to my old Line account. Have tried literally everything and Line customer service is non-existent.

Is it possible to contact girls via WhatsApp or am I kinda screwed without Line access? Aside from buying a burner Android phone and logging in with my google account, I cannot think of a way to get on the app with my iphone.How about you just make a new line account. All you need to do is have a working phone number from any country to receive the code to activate the account. I don't understand why you wouldn't just do this? Makes no sense. Set up a new line account using the same number or a new number. The person with access to the number can use the account as thats the number they send the activation sms code to.

Explorer8939
10-04-24, 14:06
Go to Dubai alone and smash Russian girls.Way too expensive for me.

Far cheaper to bring a Thai lady.

YogaMax23
10-04-24, 15:11
Due to a stolen iPhone, I cannot get access to my old Line account. Have tried literally everything and Line customer service is non-existent.

Is it possible to contact girls via WhatsApp or am I kinda screwed without Line access? Aside from buying a burner Android phone and logging in with my google account, I cannot think of a way to get on the app with my iphone.
How about you just make a new line account. All you need to do is have a working phone number from any country to receive the code to activate the account. I don't understand why you wouldn't just do this? Makes no sense. Set up a new line account using the same number or a new number. The person with access to the number can use the account as thats the number they send the activation sms code to.If only it was that easy. On an iPhone you can only make a new account with your AppleID and my AppleID was used on my old account (which is essentially locked from transferring to a new device). No idea why I can't log in with my phone number, but it says there's no account associated. Believe me, it sounds stupid because it is.

Werqweq
10-04-24, 16:15
The quality is definitely very good and I think it's worth trying at least once. I would go for the basic package the first time unless you're sure you want to try one of the premium ones that have either lobster, tomahawk steak, caviar, lamb etc. There was enough for me to be satisfied with just the basic buffet but my friend that booked the more expensive one with lobster tail and caviar. I don't eat caviar so I felt it was a waste to book that package. I think the branch at The Sense Pinklao is less expensive. If you want to book the one at Gaysorn Amarin, you usually have to book a few days in advance especially for the weekends.

If you want a less expensive option that is pretty good, you can try Wisdom International Buffet at a one of their branches close by at Siam Paragon or Siam Square One.

https://www.facebook.com/WisdomBuffetTH/

There's different price points for that one but we usually get the 1200 baht one and everyone is satisfied.Interesting. How would these compare to my favourites around Asoke: Goji at Marriot and Rain tree cafe at Athenee hotel? (both on eatigo for an effective 40% discount BTW.) Neither have caviar, but would you say the quality of meat and seafood, or ambience, at Copper Beyond is considerably better?

Nyezhov
10-05-24, 00:18
Interesting. How would these compare to my favourites around Asoke: Goji at Marriot and Rain tree cafe at Athenee hotel? (both on eatigo for an effective 40% discount BTW.) Neither have caviar, but would you say the quality of meat and seafood, or ambience, at Copper Beyond is considerably better?I thought Raintree Cafe was horrible.

Philip Marlow
10-05-24, 07:21
It's fully up to the individual IO, in any country. His judgement, his call, his decision. That's not true, at least not in America. In the states, IO's can't deny entry for any reason. Visitors are protected by the Constitution and US laws when on American soil.

I would be very surprised if Thai IOs have complete discretion regarding who can and can't enter Thailand.

EverythingThai
10-05-24, 12:03
If only it was that easy. On an iPhone you can only make a new account with your AppleID and my AppleID was used on my old account (which is essentially locked from transferring to a new device). No idea why I can't log in with my phone number, but it says there's no account associated. Believe me, it sounds stupid because it is.Wrong. I have 2 iPhones and one iPad. Each device uses the same Apple ID but each device has a different line account. Each with its own number. Step 1 delete the line App and download it again. Step 2, create new account with your phone number that you still use and can get an SMS on. Step 3 fill in the info. Your problem is you want to get access to your old line and you can't. But you can use any phone number to create a new line. Understand? It's not rocket science mate. I said create a new line account. Forget about your old one and forget about transferring. Its so easy. JUST CREATE A NEW ACCOUNT. Look at the screen shots from my iPhone. You just create new account. If you do this even though you already have one with the same number, it will delete the old account automatically and create a new one with the same number. The new account creation only asks for phone number and not Apple ID. Apple ID is only used to download the app. No need to register email with line unless you want to. Guess what, if you register email then you can access the old line in problems like yours, but dont care about that now. Just create new line account. Follow my screenshots.

Rollox
10-05-24, 17:25
Sorry to asking here but this is the most active forum for misc chat, so here is the question.

I always took half a dose of Sildenafil and I could have good fun, but I keep reading about how long lasting the Tada is so since it was the first time, I took a 5 MG yesterday.

I had a splitting headache, (Sildenafil also gives, but I take in the evening and later sleep off) which is why I wanted the longer lasting Tada. Anyway I had headache but I could get a good erection yesterday.

Today also I still had the headache so I figured I still have the med in me so I went to another wg today.

And damn it simple wouldn't wake up. I mean I never had such a dysfunction and the girl was just the kind I like.

SO what does the weekend pill mean? AM I not supposed to get Erection for 2-3 days?

Just wanted to confirm if I had the right expectations.

SubCmdr
10-05-24, 22:19
Can you get what you want from a bar girl or FL?Yes, I can and I do Every fucking time I pull out my Big Black Dick it gets satisfaction. Never had an issue like is described by the Rolling Stones.

Although my fellow ISG brother put together a great set of suggestions personally I don't agree with them. Nor would I use them.

My first suggestion to anyone is to develop your own style. No one rolls like anyone else rolls. The object is not to come on ISG to brag about this and that. The object is to make sure you get what is you want for your money.

It is as simple as treating the girl you are interested in hiring as you prostitute the same way as any other girls you want to have short term sexual encounter with. In other words, if you have game IRL simply use it when you are dealing with the prospective prostitute you plan to hire.

The only difference is that the game is different You are cutting a business deal no matter what kind of fluff anyone wants to tell you. So stay focused on the deal. Just like you would purchasing any other service. Stay focused that in the end, this is just another deal. And so, you contort yourself and tell your prospective prostitute what she wants to hear. You communicate your desires clearly if you have specific things you want out of your social / sexual encounter with your prostitute. She is acting. You are acting. In the end you are two human beings maneuvering to get what they want out of each other. That is ok. Just don't get caught up in self delusion or fantasy.

Win / Win mutually satisfying deal is what I am seeking. When a girl gave me a 500 THB Short Time offer. Then proceeded to give me one of the best experiences I have had here in Pattaya since I have arrived. At the end I gave her 500 THB. She thanked me. Don't be one of those mother fuckers talking shit because of the amount I paid. I paid her what she offered. She was sweet, sensual, kind, fun and playful. She was pretty. No she not the type of girl for our International Tricks that prefer knock kneed bimbos walking like hos but I found her attractive. And she could take some dick! And that is not a complement I hand out lightly.

The most important thing is that you develop your intuition when it comes to girls. And use that same intuition when it comes to hiring girls who are prostitutes. That is what I do. I choose girls who choose me. I do not care how fucking hot I think she is. If I don't get that warm and fuzzy feeling from her I don't fuck with her.

I dont give a fuck! I have no problem hiring a six were I get that warm and fuzzy feeling and passing on the 8 where I sense the wind is blowing cold in her mind and pussy.

That is how I roll!

Newton York
10-06-24, 03:00
Wanted to put this in the rants section, but it's not really a rant. This chat area makes sense for this topic.

Yeah, if you guys fly on the company's dime, sure it's worth it. But to come out of your own pocket? Thing is I'm an old man. And I've only experienced business class once in my life and that was a transatlantic flight, so nothing to shout about. But imagine flying business on an airline like Singapore, emirates, qatar, etc. Just once in my life before I shuffle away from my idiot mortal coil. But everytime I look at the flights on kayak or google, me thinks to me self, well now. For that 3 grand more, imagine how many chicks I could bang. Imagine the hotel room upgrade I could get. Like, put it this way, 30 hours of luxury which includes the use of the business lounge, etc. Versus using that money to go from just a standard room in a nice hotel to say a kick ass suite in the same hotel. Or just use that money to bang more chicks. Or to add more days to the same trip.

At my old age now, I try to fly premium economy when I can, it does make a huge difference on my ass cheeks. In standard economy, you can really feel your ass either going to sleep and it's all kinds of discomfort. But the coupla times I sat in a good premium economy, it made a difference to my ass.

I got some cash saved up, I could do it. I might even be able to live ok for a few short years without a job, but just one roundtrip business class flight to Bangkok and back, and that's like 2 months of expenses down the drain. By Beelzebubs balls, I'd sell my soul to be rich. Believe you me, I've tried. No supernatural takers at all. I'm so useless, even the afterlife doesn't want my soul. Fucking hell guys. I mean, we've all flown premium economy, who hasn't? It's fine for what it is, more leg room, etc. But still.

Any of yous remember Jerry Maguire? Business class, used to be better meals, now it's better lives.

Explorer8939
10-06-24, 03:06
Wanted to put this in the rants section, but it's not really a rant. This chat area makes sense for this topic.

Yeah, if you guys fly on the company's dime, sure it's worth it. But to come out of your own pocket? Thing is I'm an old man. And I've only experienced business class once in my life and that was a transatlantic flight, so nothing to shout about. But imagine flying business on an airline like Singapore, emirates, qatar, etc. Just once in my life before I shuffle away from my idiot mortal coil. But everytime I look at the flights on kayak or google, me thinks to me self, well now. For that 3 grand more, imagine how many chicks I could bang. Imagine the hotel room upgrade I could get. Like, put it this way, 30 hours of luxury which includes the use of the business lounge, etc. Versus using that money to go from just a standard room in a nice hotel to say a kick ass suite in the same hotel. Or just use that money to bang more chicks. Or to add more days to the same trip.

At my old age now, I try to fly premium economy when I can, it does make a huge difference on my ass cheeks. In standard economy, you can really feel your ass either going to sleep and it's all kinds of discomfort. But the coupla times I sat in a good premium economy, it made a difference to my ass.

I got some cash saved up, I could do it. I might even be able to live ok for a few short years without a job, but just one roundtrip business class flight to Bangkok and back, and that's like 2 months of expenses down the drain. By Beelzebubs balls, I'd sell my soul to be rich. Believe you me, I've tried. No supernatural takers at all. I'm so useless, even the afterlife doesn't want my soul. Fucking hell guys. I mean, we've all flown premium economy, who hasn't? It's fine for what it is, more leg room, etc. But still.

Any of yous remember Jerry Maguire? Business class, used to be better meals, now it's better lives.FYI, if you buy an Economy ticket, sometimes the airline will send you an email allowing you bid for Business class, often it's quite cheap.

SubCmdr
10-06-24, 03:23
Is business class really worth it?That is a question that only be answered by the individual paying for the airline ticket.

BionicMan
10-06-24, 05:31
That's not true, at least not in America. In the states, IO's can't deny entry for any reason. Visitors are protected by the Constitution and US laws when on American soil.

I would be very surprised if Thai IOs have complete discretion regarding who can and can't enter Thailand.Check any visa application anywhere in the world and you will read the fine line "entry to the country is subject to IO discretion even in presence of a visa".

Good luck.

EverythingThai
10-06-24, 06:24
Yes, I can and I do Every fucking time I pull out my Big Black Dick it gets satisfaction. Never had an issue like is described by the Rolling Stones.

Although my fellow ISG brother put together a great set of suggestions personally I don't agree with them. Nor would I use them.

My first suggestion to anyone is to develop your own style. No one rolls like anyone else rolls. The object is not to come on ISG to brag about this and that. The object is to make sure you get what is you want for your money.

It is as simple as treating the girl you are interested in hiring as you prostitute the same way as any other girls you want to have short term sexual encounter with. In other words, if you have game IRL simply use it when you are dealing with the prospective prostitute you plan to hire.

The only difference is that the game is different You are cutting a business deal no matter what kind of fluff anyone wants to tell you. So stay focused on the deal. Just like you would purchasing any other service. Stay focused that in the end, this is just another deal. And so, you contort yourself and tell your prospective prostitute what she wants to hear. You communicate your desires clearly if you have specific things you want out of your social / sexual encounter with your prostitute. She is acting. You are acting. In the end you are two human beings maneuvering to get what they want out of each other. That is ok. Just don't get caught up in self delusion or fantasy.

Win / Win mutually satisfying deal is what I am seeking. When a girl gave me a 500 THB Short Time offer. Then proceeded to give me one of the best experiences I have had here in Pattaya since I have arrived. At the end I gave her 500 THB. She thanked me. Don't be one of those mother fuckers talking shit because of the amount I paid. I paid her what she offered. She was sweet, sensual, kind, fun and playful. She was pretty. No she not the type of girl for our International Tricks that prefer knock kneed bimbos walking like hos but I found her attractive. And she could take some dick! And that is not a complement I hand out lightly.

The most important thing is that you develop your intuition when it comes to girls. And use that same intuition when it comes to hiring girls who are prostitutes. That is what I do. I choose girls who choose me. I do not care how fucking hot I think she is. If I don't get that warm and fuzzy feeling from her I don't fuck with her.

I dont give a fuck! I have no problem hiring a six were I get that warm and fuzzy feeling and passing on the 8 where I sense the wind is blowing cold in her mind and pussy.

That is how I roll!If you read my post more closely, you will see that our ideas are actually not that much different. "Game". This is my game in a sense. When you talk about style, this is just my style. One big difference is I often will create the warm and fuzzy feeling, but it's still a game and it's still me maneuvering to get what I want. In my method, I have more control and that's how I like it.

Some of your ideas make sense, but you won't always get what you want and that's what the point of my post was.

ET out.

Thampi62
10-06-24, 07:38
Sorry to asking here but this is the most active forum for misc chat, so here is the question.

I always took half a dose of Sildenafil and I could have good fun, but I keep reading about how long lasting the Tada is so since it was the first time, I took a 5 MG yesterday.

I had a splitting headache, (Sildenafil also gives, but I take in the evening and later sleep off) which is why I wanted the longer lasting Tada. Anyway I had headache but I could get a good erection yesterday.

Today also I still had the headache so I figured I still have the med in me so I went to another wg today.

And damn it simple wouldn't wake up. I mean I never had such a dysfunction and the girl was just the kind I like.

SO what does the weekend pill mean? AM I not supposed to get Erection for 2-3 days?

Just wanted to confirm if I had the right expectations.5 MG is too low. Have to take at least 10 MG. Tadalafil is prescribed for prostate enlargement and difficulty for urine flow. Headache is not common compared to short acting ED drugs. Some commented about lower back aches. I usually take 20 MG to begin with and 10 MG everyday there after. My experience is awesome. Evenif it is a weekend pill, top up make an active happy ending to 50 plus groups.

EverythingThai
10-06-24, 08:48
Yes, I can and I do Every fucking time I pull out my Big Black Dick it gets satisfaction. Never had an issue like is described by the Rolling Stones.

Although my fellow ISG brother put together a great set of suggestions personally I don't agree with them. Nor would I use them.

My first suggestion to anyone is to develop your own style. No one rolls like anyone else rolls. The object is not to come on ISG to brag about this and that. The object is to make sure you get what is you want for your money.

It is as simple as treating the girl you are interested in hiring as you prostitute the same way as any other girls you want to have short term sexual encounter with. In other words, if you have game IRL simply use it when you are dealing with the prospective prostitute you plan to hire.

The only difference is that the game is different You are cutting a business deal no matter what kind of fluff anyone wants to tell you. So stay focused on the deal. Just like you would purchasing any other service. Stay focused that in the end, this is just another deal. And so, you contort yourself and tell your prospective prostitute what she wants to hear. You communicate your desires clearly if you have specific things you want out of your social / sexual encounter with your prostitute. She is acting. You are acting. In the end you are two human beings maneuvering to get what they want out of each other. That is ok. Just don't get caught up in self delusion or fantasy.

Win / Win mutually satisfying deal is what I am seeking. When a girl gave me a 500 THB Short Time offer. Then proceeded to give me one of the best experiences I have had here in Pattaya since I have arrived. At the end I gave her 500 THB. She thanked me. Don't be one of those mother fuckers talking shit because of the amount I paid. I paid her what she offered. She was sweet, sensual, kind, fun and playful. She was pretty. No she not the type of girl for our International Tricks that prefer knock kneed bimbos walking like hos but I found her attractive. And she could take some dick! And that is not a complement I hand out lightly.

The most important thing is that you develop your intuition when it comes to girls. And use that same intuition when it comes to hiring girls who are prostitutes. That is what I do. I choose girls who choose me. I do not care how fucking hot I think she is. If I don't get that warm and fuzzy feeling from her I don't fuck with her.

I dont give a fuck! I have no problem hiring a six were I get that warm and fuzzy feeling and passing on the 8 where I sense the wind is blowing cold in her mind and pussy.

That is how I roll!




Some of your ideas make sense, but you won't always get what you want and that's what the point of my post was.
ET out.By the way, just to avoid any confusion, I don't mean "you" personally won't get what you want, I mean the average punter won't get what they want. Guys on holiday see a girl and they want her. They don't want to walk away if they don't have the warm and fuzzy feeling. They just want to fuck that girl. So, with my strategy, they have a shot at getting what they want because they will know how to create the warm and fuzzy feeling. Many holiday punters think like this. In essence, as you said in WA, square peg, round hole. My method will make a lot more of those square pegs fit in round holes.

Rollox
10-06-24, 09:15
5 MG is too low. Have to take at least 10 MG. Tadalafil is prescribed for prostate enlargement and difficulty for urine flow. Headache is not common compared to short acting ED drugs. Some commented about lower back aches. I usually take 20 MG to begin with and 10 MG everyday there after. My experience is awesome. Evenif it is a weekend pill, top up make an active happy ending to 50 plus groups.Do you mean you have to take it everyday?

I thought it was supposed to last for a 2 days.

I did have lower back ache after my deadlift sessions, but it went away after 30 minutes of rest. Unusual for me as I don't usually get lower back soreness after DLs.

Maybe my headache is unrelated. WIll try 10 MG and see.

Nyezhov
10-06-24, 11:09
Check any visa application anywhere in the world and you will read the fine line "entry to the country is subject to IO discretion even in presence of a visa".

Good luck.Certain constitutional rights do not even apply to US citizens at the border. Be nice when you enter.

Thampi62
10-06-24, 13:07
Read as visa fee exemption for VOA to Thailand will be only up to November 11. Do they extend beyond because of the western Asia crisis?

Explorer8939
10-06-24, 16:46
FYI, if you buy an Economy ticket, sometimes the airline will send you an email allowing you bid for Business class, often it's quite cheap.I bid $382 to upgrade from Economy to Premium Economy on EVA, and my bid was accepted today.

HorseTrader
10-06-24, 17:54
Do you mean you have to take it everyday?

I thought it was supposed to last for a 2 days.It probably depends on the individual. 10 years ago it would last 2 or 3 days for me and I could still feel some positive effect about 5 days later. Now at my advanced age, it only lasts for about 12 to 24 hours. I do the same thing as Thampi62, start with 20 mg and then 10 mg more on a daily basis. Regarding the nasty side effects, for me they diminish after a few days of daily use.

Recently I've preferred generic Viagra because the nasty side effects disappear after 12 to 15 hours.

Rollox
10-06-24, 18:39
It probably depends on the individual. 10 years ago it would last 2 or 3 days for me and I could still feel some positive effect about 5 days later. Now at my advanced age, it only lasts for about 12 to 24 hours. I do the same thing as Thampi62, start with 20 mg and then 10 mg more on a daily basis. Regarding the nasty side effects, for me they diminish after a few days of daily use.

Recently I've preferred generic Viagra because the nasty side effects disappear after 12 to 15 hours.Yeah, is the Side effect was going to last for 2 days, I would rather do Viagra. I was doing Viagra only. And next morning I am fresh, but the hot flush was crazy.

Paolo99
10-06-24, 20:19
Yeah, is the Side effect was going to last for 2 days, I would rather do Viagra. I was doing Viagra only. And next morning I am fresh, but the hot flush was crazy.I used Tadalafil for 2 days in a row a few months ago (10 MG each days). The side effects were pretty bad (intestinal pain and discomfort) and lasted 1 or 2 more days after I stopped taking the pill. It seems it's a common side effect of the molecule (among others).

In my experience, the effectiveness was not better than Sildenafil (prior to this attempt I was taking less than half a 100 MG Sildenafil pill). The effect didn't last longer than Sildenafil too, so I never took it again.

SubCmdr
10-06-24, 22:16
Some of your ideas make senseOf course they do! The point you missed about my post is I am not trying to tell other grown men how to spend their money or who to fuck. I simply offered a alternative way of doing things. One that requires a lot less money. Is that ok with you my ISG Brother? I really don't care if anyone uses it. Maybe they just take a part and incorporate it like I did when you provided information on how easy it was to get BBFS here in Pattaya (and Thailand in general). I even sent you a PM thanking you for the information. You remember that don't you?


but you won't always get what you want and that's what the point of my post was.Actually I missed the idea of your post and said that it might be excellent for you or others but it would not work for me. Who says I won't always get what I want? I don't pre-script my sexual encounters down to the last drop of ejaculate that leaves my dick.


If you read my post more closely, you will see that our ideas are actually not that much different.But if you read my post more carefully I said: Yes I can and I do. We may not have big difference is philosophy's but we have very different way of how we present our ideas.


"Game". This is my game in a sense.


In other words, if you have game IRL simply use it when you are dealing with the prospective prostitute you plan to hire. The only difference is that the game is differentNo reason to redefine game. How about we let those reading our respective post engage in some introspection and perfect their methods for employing game for their own purposes?


When you talk about style, this is just my style.And what did I say?


Although my fellow ISG brother put together a great set of suggestions personally I don't agree with them. Nor would I use them.Sounds like I am talking about my style. Not interested in biting yours nor did I throw any shade in your direction. I gave you props. You need to learn to take a complement gracefully and not always be looking to be top dog up in here.


One big difference is I often will create the warm and fuzzy feeling, but it's still a game and it's still me maneuvering to get what I want. In my method, I have more control and that's how I like it.You can't always get what you want; But if you try sometimes, well, you might find; You get what you need - Rolling Stones.

BionicMan
10-06-24, 23:49
Certain constitutional rights do not even apply to US citizens at the border. Be nice when you enter.Don't tell me, tell the other guy I have been very positive: any IO in any country if the world has the ultimate decision to let you in, regardless of the visa you have been granted, in case one is required, or just a VOA or just a stamp on your passport.

Philip Marlow
10-07-24, 00:39
Don't tell me, tell the other guy I have been very positive: any IO in any country if the world has the ultimate decision to let you in, regardless of the visa you have been granted, in case one is required, or just a VOA or just a stamp on your passport.In America they do, as long as they fall within legal and constitutional limits. They can't make reasons up.

As far as US citizens losing constitutional rights at the border, that makes no sense.

Nyezhov
10-07-24, 03:03
Don't tell me, tell the other guy I have been very positive: any IO in any country if the world has the ultimate decision to let you in, regardless of the visa you have been granted, in case one is required, or just a VOA or just a stamp on your passport.I know, it was the rhetorical you.

I am constantly amazed at the sight of some of the revolting riffraff that tries to enter Thailand. No wonder there are so many complaints over social media.

Banana Boi
10-07-24, 05:23
I bid $382 to upgrade from Economy to Premium Economy on EVA, and my bid was accepted today.Premium Eco is useless IF the guy in front of you leans his seat all the way back. Seat pitch seemed worst than Eco when he did that. I ended up staring at a bald guy with pimples on his head for flying Prem Eco. Gross! Happened to me with EVA earlier this year. Complete waste of money. Should have saved for a future Business Class ticket. Did the same as you and did a bid upgrade for flight across the Pacific.

Better off to suffer in Eco then splurge on lay flat seats every so often.

XXL
10-07-24, 05:34
Premium Eco is useless IF the guy in front of you leans his seat all the way back. Seat pitch seemed worst than Eco when he did that. I ended up staring at a bald guy with pimples on his head for flying Prem Eco. Gross! Happened to me with EVA earlier this year. Complete waste of money. Should have saved for a future Business Class ticket. Did the same as you and did a bid upgrade for flight across the Pacific.

Better off to suffer in Eco then splurge on lay flat seats every so often.I second that! I once bought an Airfrance Eco Premium to Africa. Worst long-haul flight ever. The seat seemed to have been engeneered to preclude any sleep or rest, like I could neither sit nor doze comfortably. In Eco with a window seat I usually contrive to get some sleep, on that Eco Premium seat I got no sleep whatsoever.

Nyezhov
10-07-24, 05:45
In America they do, as long as they fall within legal and constitutional limits. They can't make reasons up.

As far as US citizens losing constitutional rights at the border, that makes no sense.Well argue with them that they need probable cause if they decide to search you. You can argue that to the district court too and see which one laughs louder.

Clearly you're not an American. If you were, you would know that in some areas, the border extends 50 or 60 mi inland and that the border patrol, as part and parcel of their duties, can pull you over without probable cause.

Thampi62
10-07-24, 13:05
Do you mean you have to take it everyday?

I thought it was supposed to last for a 2 days.

I did have lower back ache after my deadlift sessions, but it went away after 30 minutes of rest. Unusual for me as I don't usually get lower back soreness after DLs.

Maybe my headache is unrelated. WIll try 10 MG and see.My mongering days lasts for three to four nights. Start with 20 MG and 10 MG every other day till my last day of the trip. My routine is two sessions in a day. I never had any problem with my erection except sometimes I can't finish. If you are younger 10 MG everyday will also be a good option.

Mr Enternational
10-07-24, 15:34
SO what does the weekend pill mean? AM I not supposed to get Erection for 2-3 days?

Just wanted to confirm if I had the right expectations.No idea. But a urologist that I am subscribed to just posted this.

https://youtu.be/wgpXLBh8q2Y?si=uYD_XoXyhu02S6LU

Philip Marlow
10-07-24, 16:52
Well argue with them that they need probable cause if they decide to search you. You can argue that to the district court too and see which one laughs louder.

Clearly you're not an American. If you were, you would know that in some areas, the border extends 50 or 60 mi inland and that the border patrol, as part and parcel of their duties, can pull you over without probable cause.Why would I argue with them that they need probable cause to search me when the law allows them to search me without it? 19 CFR 162.6 (19 USC 1467).

As to Border Patrol's pulling me over without probable cause, that's wrong too. CBP can pull me over without a warrant, but they need to believe I may be an alien before they do. 8 USC 1357. By the way, it's 100 miles from the border. I guess neither of us are American.

SubCmdr
10-07-24, 22:00
A U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officer's border search authority is derived from federal statutes and regulations, including 19 C.F.R. 162.6, which states that, "All persons, baggage and merchandise arriving in the Customs territory of the United States from places outside thereof are liable to inspection by a CBP officer." Unless exempt by diplomatic status, all persons entering the United States, including U.S. citizens, are subject to examination and search by CBP officers.

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/cbp-search-authority

The way it works is your allow the search. Clean or dirty your attorney files your case if you have one. PRO TIP: If guilty, pick a jury trial. If not guilty take the trail by the judge.

Explorer8939
10-07-24, 22:59
Premium Eco is useless IF the guy in front of you leans his seat all the way back. Seat pitch seemed worst than Eco when he did that. I ended up staring at a bald guy with pimples on his head for flying Prem Eco. Gross! Happened to me with EVA earlier this year. Complete waste of money. Should have saved for a future Business Class ticket. Did the same as you and did a bid upgrade for flight across the Pacific.

Better off to suffer in Eco then splurge on lay flat seats every so often.If you are in Economy, and the guy in front of you leans back, you're in worse shape.

And some Premium Economy seats are better than others. EVA is kind of the pioneer in PE, and one of the best.

My plan is to take the flight at 12:15 AM from LAX, sleep until Taipei in the early AM, and then arrive in BKK mid morning, hopefully with minimal jet lag.

I hit Pattaya early afternoon, have time for a nap, hit 7/11 at 5 pm, stock up, and I have a lady lined up for a visit. I have had ladies asking for appointments for the first five days, so I am set.

Nyezhov
10-07-24, 23:46
Why would I argue with them that they need probable cause to search me when the law allows them to search me without it? 19 CFR 162.6 (19 USC 1467).

As to Border Patrol's pulling me over without probable cause, that's wrong too. CBP can pull me over without a warrant, but they need to believe I may be an alien before they do. 8 USC 1357. By the way, it's 100 miles from the border. I guess neither of us are American.No dude I'm an American I was just too lazy to look it up. But I guess folks realize now that there are no rights at the US border. Act accordingly.

YogaMax23
10-08-24, 17:29
Wrong. I have 2 iPhones and one iPad. Each device uses the same Apple ID but each device has a different line account. Each with its own number. Step 1 delete the line App and download it again. Step 2, create new account with your phone number that you still use and can get an SMS on. Step 3 fill in the info. Your problem is you want to get access to your old line and you can't. But you can use any phone number to create a new line. Understand? It's not rocket science mate. I said create a new line account. Forget about your old one and forget about transferring. Its so easy. JUST CREATE A NEW ACCOUNT. Look at the screen shots from my iPhone. You just create new account. If you do this even though you already have one with the same number, it will delete the old account automatically and create a new one with the same number. The new account creation only asks for phone number and not Apple ID. Apple ID is only used to download the app. No need to register email with line unless you want to. Guess what, if you register email then you can access the old line in problems like yours, but dont care about that now. Just create new line account. Follow my screenshots.I appreciate you trying to help, but signups works different outside of Asia. You can only sign up for new accounts via phone number in HK, Japan, Korea, and Thailand, but not in the US. They changed that last year. Maybe I'll be able to make a new one easily when I arrive in BKK, but your process doesn't work here. Cheers.

LittleBigMan
10-09-24, 06:31
At the border a bit different cause what trump any law or your right is " National Security " put in place after 9/11. Go get a lawyer good luck how much does " principal cost " unless you got deep pockets they will bury you by stalling and hiding behind it
In my opinion based on a close friend at the airport who got laid off after 9/11 got a job with custom their job at the airport application of your rights are different thaan a border patrol agent down at the border for example San Diego, Ca.

LittleBigMan
10-09-24, 07:06
If you are in Economy, and the guy in front of you leans back, you're in worse shape.

And some Premium Economy seats are better than others. EVA is kind of the pioneer in PE, and one of the best.

My plan is to take the flight at 12:15 AM from LAX, sleep until Taipei in the early AM, and then arrive in BKK mid morning, hopefully with minimal jet lag.

I hit Pattaya early afternoon, have time for a nap, hit 7/11 at 5 pm, stock up, and I have a lady lined up for a visit. I have had ladies asking for appointments for the first five days, so I am set.I have used Eva for close to 20 years out of SFO, great airline schedule is similar to LAX.

Use to upgrade to Premium or purchsse in the beginning it wss just a few hundred more today easily a thousand.

Depending on your size me 5'7 I don't have a problem even when seat is drop back in front. Whenever I buy I also pick and select my seat if you do use Eva, the beginning of economy the first few rolls there is suppose to be more leg room reason if you pick seats the charge is higher but by naked eye I can't see the difference to pay the extra.

Prior to covid I was offered upgrade to Pre I decline the seats padding legs push against the back area of my legs that made it very uncomfortable then the head phones press against my ears giving me headache.

Last few trips home I've booked their afternoon flight gets me in a 11 pm, by 1 am I'm checked in to a hotel in Nana Area and out and about.

2022, July when Thailand open I got a great price on Phillippine 25,000 baht never again! Crazy security check going to USA.

2023, I booked on Japan I had thought they ended service to SFO years ago but Eva had just started up and their prices were out of whack. On Expedia 31,000 baht with seats and notice premium was much cheaper their schedule to SFO was very close to Eva. Though service eas very good.

SubCmdr
10-09-24, 09:29
on the ringing of the bell for the line up I don't mind it as the chicks are always spread out within the bar standing outside or eating that the ringing of the bell shows you everyone who is available.More of that Nightass bar ownership group bullshit! Those who have bar owning friends that take umbrage at my characterization I apology. But please know that I just don't give a fuck about what others think of my opinion.

That being said, the ringing to the bell with a line up may work for those with no personality or backbone, but for me I don't like to be manipulated. It has been argued that well, the bar owners need to make money duh? Yes, they do. But whatever happened to the idea of customer service? Or making your product or service appeal to the customer? No, those mother fuckers are saying we own the majority of the bars, we are going to exercise our monopoly power. Fuck you! Pay me! Soi 6 good for me; occasional visit; all the time? No. Prefer gentleman's clubs. But, spread out, older girls, slower pace. Your time, your money, your dick, your call!

I prefer to choose girls who choose me. When I am in a venue and a girl approaches me, it may just be business but she is at least showing she is on the hustle. There are bars I can walk into on Soi 6 where no girl will approach me. Ironically it seems to be the bars my boys like the most. I understand that. The girls are smoking hot and they are all over them. I am cool with it. I go get a drink at the bar and chill with them. If no girl comes up, no need to buy a Lady Drink.

Now don't get it twisted, I have no problem buying lady drinks even if only results in a little touch and feel action. It's entertainment. My money comes fast so that is how I spend it. But I am the director of this mother fucking movie. So it plays out my way.

EverythingThai
10-09-24, 09:31
I appreciate you trying to help, but signups works different outside of Asia. You can only sign up for new accounts via phone number in HK, Japan, Korea, and Thailand, but not in the US. They changed that last year. Maybe I'll be able to make a new one easily when I arrive in BKK, but your process doesn't work here. Cheers.Guess what? I also have an apple account in the US and I also tried it there and my method also works. Another option as it seems you just don't understand. Create another. New apple account for use in Thailand. Do it on the website and not on a mobile phone. Choose no payment method. After the new apple account is created, use a cheap iPhone for this line using your Thai SIM card you will get after you arrive. If you don't have another iPhone, buy a cheap android phone for 1000 Baht in Thailand and use that for line with a google account you make for Thailand. There it is!

Nyezhov
10-09-24, 10:59
Guess what? I also have an apple account in the US and I also tried it there and my method also works. Another option as it seems you just don't understand. Create another. New apple account for use in Thailand. Do it on the website and not on a mobile phone. Choose no payment method. After the new apple account is created, use a cheap iPhone for this line using your Thai SIM card you will get after you arrive. If you don't have another iPhone, buy a cheap android phone for 1000 Baht in Thailand and use that for line with a google account you make for Thailand. There it is!Here is an option: toss that Iphone and get an android.

EverythingThai
10-10-24, 08:35
More of that Nightass bar ownership group bullshit! Those who have bar owning friends that take umbrage at my characterization I apology. But please know that I just don't give a fuck about what others think of my opinion.

That being said, the ringing to the bell with a line up may work for those with no personality or backbone, but for me I don't like to be manipulated. It has been argued that well, the bar owners need to make money duh? Yes, they do. But whatever happened to the idea of customer service? Or making your product or service appeal to the customer? No, those mother fuckers are saying we own the majority of the bars, we are going to exercise our monopoly power. Fuck you! Pay me! Soi 6 good for me; occasional visit; all the time? No. Prefer gentleman's clubs. But, spread out, older girls, slower pace. Your time, your money, your dick, your call!

I prefer to choose girls who choose me. When I am in a venue and a girl approaches me, it may just be business but she is at least showing she is on the hustle. There are bars I can walk into on Soi 6 where no girl will approach me. Ironically it seems to be the bars my boys like the most. I understand that. The girls are smoking hot and they are all over them. I am cool with it. I go get a drink at the bar and chill with them. If no girl comes up, no need to buy a Lady Drink.

Now don't get it twisted, I have no problem buying lady drinks even if only results in a little touch and feel action. It's entertainment. My money comes fast so that is how I spend it. But I am the director of this mother fucking movie. So it plays out my way.My next plan for nightfuck group will be just to dismiss the group with a "no thanks I'll let you know. " Then pick my own after chilling for 15 or so minutes.

AggieDad1
10-10-24, 15:14
Thought I'd share what happened to me a couple of months ago as I switched planes in Taipei en route to BKK. I know many on here take EVA through Taipei so just a PSA for some of you.

Got off EVA plane. As I entered the "quick" security to get on to another EVA plane I noticed a big sign. The sign had a drawing of a electric shaver and a fan with a line through them indicating that electric shavers and fans are not allowed through. I knew I had a small fan on me but I left it in my backpack not knowing at the time why I can't carry an electric fan. My bag is pulled to the side where I'm called over to watch them dig out my fan. The dick security person says "you know it's illegal to bring a fan in to Taiwan" (pretty sure it's not illegal it's just his bad English). I said no. He then pointed to the huge sign and rudely says "didn't you see the sign? I said I'm tired from my flight so no. He tells me I am trying to carry a lithium battery on a flight and I can go to jail for that. I hadn't even considered my tiny hand held fan even had a lithium battery! He then went on to say with huge attitude they are professionals and I am dumb to think I can sneak a lithium battery on to a flight. This fan has been with me over 20 years and possibly went through that same check point 20 times! I guess those carrying electric shavers will run into the same issue from these "professionals".

Again, only a PSA for those who may pack an electric shaver or fan on their carry on bags going through the Taipei check point. Guess we're to pack them in checked baggage?Just got back from Thailand and flew EVA air through Taipei. Going through Taipei was no problem because they did not make transfers go through security. Coming back I did have to go through security and the sign BB described is still there. Thanks to his warning I had purchased a Norelco electric shaver that runs on AA batteries. So I had no problems with security. The shaver worked well and went three weeks on a single set of batteries. Thanks BB.

LittleBigMan
10-11-24, 01:59
Illegal or forbidden, I'm lucky near death I still can't grow a decent mustache I carry a cheap throw away razor LOL.

But in the USA Eva, they ask you if you have them in your check in I not know the answer as to know what would happen if I say Yes, so it isn't just carry on.

Leaving because of language Thailand they have counter mats near the weigh in indicating what is allowed.

Banana Boi
10-11-24, 02:18
I don't get it. This seems to be an EVA thing. Has anyone had shaver / fan issues with ANY other airline anywhere in the world?

Explorer is flying EVA soon. What's your plan?

Explorer8939
10-11-24, 03:44
I don't get it. This seems to be an EVA thing. Has anyone had shaver / fan issues with ANY other airline anywhere in the world?

Explorer is flying EVA soon. What's your plan?I flew EVA LAX-BKK.

At the stop in TPE, there was no security check. So, nobody cares about the 40 lithium batteries I was carrying, or my Bluetooth speaker which uses lithium batteries.

The first leg I flew in PE. It seemed very similar to Economy, but I was able to sleep 7 hours of the 13 hour flight.

The second leg was only 4 hours, and I was in Economy, but in an Exit row. For a short flight, it was okay.

Bottom line: I was pretty functional the first night in Pattaya, but slept only 6 hours. Last night I slept 12 hours, and feel fine now.

Flying a red-eye LAX-BKK is the way to go.

Nyezhov
10-11-24, 05:16
I flew EVA LAX-BKK.

At the stop in TPE, there was no security check. So, nobody cares about the 40 lithium batteries I was carrying, or my Bluetooth speaker which uses lithium batteries.

The first leg I flew in PE. It seemed very similar to Economy, but I was able to sleep 7 hours of the 13 hour flight.

The second leg was only 4 hours, and I was in Economy, but in an Exit row. For a short flight, it was okay.

Bottom line: I was pretty functional the first night in Pattaya, but slept only 6 hours. Last night I slept 12 hours, and feel fine now.

Flying a red-eye LAX-BKK is the way to go.NY to Frankfurt to BKK is even better if you are on the East coast.

HorseTrader
10-11-24, 18:57
The first leg I flew in PE. It seemed very similar to Economy, but I was able to sleep 7 hours of the 13 hour flight.

The second leg was only 4 hours, and I was in Economy, but in an Exit row. For a short flight, it was okay.
I've flown both economy and premium economy on 3 different airlines (Delta, Cathay Pacific, and Lufthansa). The economy and premium economy services are about the same, but the seats are definitely different (wider, more pitch, more recline). I'm tall and the PE passenger in front of me can recline fully without causing me any problem at all. IMHO, PE is much better than economy, but don't expect it to be even close to business class, those are different worlds.

Explorer8939
10-12-24, 00:46
I had 2 ladies over for LT yesterday. For the price police, I pay 2,000 LT.

Both ladies were kind of the same. After drinks, they were sort of passive in bed, no BJ, but okay with me fucking them.

The first one hung around after sex, I was a bit impatient for her to leave, but she wanted to drink more. The second lady slept over, so it's morning, and she may sleep a lot more. No problem, I don't have another lady until the afternoon. Hopefully, she will do a BJ.

SubCmdr
10-12-24, 08:39
I had 2 ladies over for LT yesterday. For the price police, I pay 2,000 LT.

Both ladies were kind of the same. After drinks, they were sort of passive in bed, no BJ, but okay with me fucking them.

The first one hung around after sex, I was a bit impatient for her to leave, but she wanted to drink more. The second lady slept over, so it's morning, and she may sleep a lot more. No problem, I don't have another lady until the afternoon. Hopefully, she will do a BJ.This is actually an excellent report! Only thing missing for me is where you sourced the ladies. The part I bolded had me ROTFLMAO! Nice body blow!

Keep up the good work!

Nyezhov
10-13-24, 10:18
I had 2 ladies over for LT yesterday. For the price police, I pay 2,000 LT.

Both ladies were kind of the same. After drinks, they were sort of passive in bed, no BJ, but okay with me fucking them.

The first one hung around after sex, I was a bit impatient for her to leave, but she wanted to drink more. The second lady slept over, so it's morning, and she may sleep a lot more. No problem, I don't have another lady until the afternoon. Hopefully, she will do a BJ.Do you count the vast amount of booze these ladies seem to drink with you when calculating LT fee.

I hope you feed them Johnny Walker vs 20 year old Laphroig.

Explorer8939
10-14-24, 00:08
Do you count the vast amount of booze these ladies seem to drink with you when calculating LT fee.

I hope you feed them Johnny Walker vs 20 year old Laphroig.Generally, they drink LEO Strong Brew or Thai whiskey. Some drink tequila.

Explorer8939
10-14-24, 00:15
This is actually an excellent report! Only thing missing for me is where you sourced the ladies. The part I bolded had me ROTFLMAO! Nice body blow!

Keep up the good work!I have a rotation of ladies. Sometimes a lady will ask to bring a friend over, and if she works out okay, I will add her to the rotation.

I rarely go to a bar to barfine a new lady.

I also rarely ask a lady to come drink, I get flooded with requests unless it's High Season.

My pet peeve is a lady who announces that she is sick upon arrival (or hungover). If they can't drink, I may send them home, but sometimes they offer to fuck, and that may be tempting.

Tomorrow night, I am having a former bargirl come over who claims she likes women. So, I am inviting another lady who has no problem playing with ladies to see if they click. But what I have found is ladies who say they like ladies only like one particular lady, they won't play with anyone else. Wish me luck.

SubCmdr
10-14-24, 08:13
Tomorrow night, I am having a former bargirl come over who claims she likes women. So, I am inviting another lady who has no problem playing with ladies to see if they click. But what I have found is ladies who say they like ladies only like one particular lady, they won't play with anyone else. Wish me luck.I have found that my best threesome happen when it the idea of the ladies and they pick each other. Trying to play matchmaker has never worked for me. I have had many threesomes over the years. In fact, I wrote about my last one.

Much success to you my ISG Brother

Nyezhov
10-14-24, 10:28
Generally, they drink LEO Strong Brew or Thai whiskey. Some drink tequila.Another plus for Thailand versus the West: no booze snobbery.

Shikhar10
10-14-24, 16:37
I have found that my best threesome happen when it the idea of the ladies and they pick each other. Trying to play matchmaker has never worked for me...Surely the chances of a lady suggesting a threesome are slim, especially if I am in Thailand for only a few days. I definitely do not want a subpar experience after paying double for two women. Also chances are I might not be into the second lady picked by the first one. Should I just rule out threesomes?

Explorer8939
10-14-24, 23:45
Surely the chances of a lady suggesting a threesome are slim, especially if I am in Thailand for only a few days. I definitely do not want a subpar experience after paying double for two women. Also chances are I might not be into the second lady picked by the first one. Should I just rule out threesomes?If you are just in Pattaya for a few days, it's a matter of luck.

You may barfine a lady who says: "can you barfine my friend? But that often means she wants her friend to do the fucking, while she plays telephone with her boyfriend.

SubCmdr
10-15-24, 01:27
questions and decision tree

Do you like girls? If yes, do you have a favorite one to play with? If yes, can you point her out to me (if on premise) or show her to me (if online)?

Make your decision!

Do you like girls? If no, do you have a favorite one to partner up with to please me? If yes, can you point her out to me (if on premise) or show her to me (if online)?

Make your decision!


Surely the chances of a lady suggesting a threesome are slim, especially if I am in Thailand for only a few days. I definitely do not want a subpar experience after paying double for two women. Also chances are I might not be into the second lady picked by the first one.My favorite sexual encounter is a threesome with bisexual girls with a threesome with girls who have worked together before running a close second and BBBJCIMWS third. When I find a girl I share sexual chemistry with I simply ask for a threesome. I also get presented with threesomes all the time. But I rarely accept a threesome with two girls I don't know. But, there is always an exception and I wrote about my last threesome encounter. Two girls, did not know either of them, offered themselves to me. Liked them both. Off to the room we went.

Now, not everyone is like me. So I don't expect that this will work for everyone. I understand that everyone has their own preferences. Your time, your money, your dick, your call!


Should I just rule out threesomes?I don't know. Should you?

Explorer8939
10-15-24, 03:12
Tomorrow my goal is to fuck a pair of twins. I have one coming in the day time, the other at night.

If you are wondering why not at the same time, I assure you that they would be brawling if that happened.

Nyezhov
10-15-24, 12:35
Tomorrow my goal is to fuck a pair of twins. I have one coming in the day time, the other at night.

If you are wondering why not at the same time, I assure you that they would be brawling if that happened.I did a pair years ago. Wonderful. Cost me a fortune but a lifelong memory.

Shikhar10
10-15-24, 13:50
Now, not everyone is like me. So I don't expect that this will work for everyone. I understand that everyone has their own preferences. Your time, your money, your dick, your call!Your experience is helpful anyway. Thanks, SubCmdr.

Explorer8939
10-15-24, 15:13
The "date" with the two ladies worked out better than I expected.

What you might imagine is what happened, after they downed half a bottle of Jose Cuervo tequila.

SubCmdr
10-15-24, 16:26
My ATF is worth more than her weight in gold. She is has given me insights into how to operated in Pattya specifically and Thailand off of the tourist economy. She also saves me a lot of money while dramatically increasing my quality of life here. Might have something to do with not being in the entertainment industry and getting up and going to a real job six days a week.

Example

Shoes I like are 1200 THB in the mall store. They are 650 THB from the Tik Tok store.

Just received another pair. The previous pair lasted 12 months. The uppers are still perfect but the soles have worn out. They are my primary shoes that I wear almost all the time. Unless I am going out then I wear a different color from the same brand in order coordinate my outfit. Why?

Every girl crazy bout a sharp dressed man - ZZ Top.

She showed me this and now orders them off of Tik Tok. 550 THB will buy us a feast at one of my favorite Thai Restaurants.

Holla!

Now for the guys out there that wipe their ass with 20 USD notes and who don't care about spending and extra 500 THB in order to fuck who they want, I say DOWHATCHALIKE! But please stop with your bullshit comments of privilege trying to spend shame others. I know I am perceived as one who fucks ugly girls because I am cheap. The price and appearance police be trying to catch me riding ugly but they have not been able to. You see:

If you cant spot me, then you cant watch me. And if you cant watch me you sure as hell cant stop me. - PitBull.

Fuck Scotch!

I drink Bourbon John Wick style. Pour up some 10 year old Eagle Rare! Just did. It will make you want to cry like a baby and stare into your glass and ask:

where have you been all my life?

Mr Enternational
10-15-24, 19:08
Shoes I like are 1200 THB in the mall store. They are 650 THB from the Tik Tok store.

Just received another pair. The previous pair lasted 12 months. The uppers are still perfect but the soles have worn out. They are my primary shoes that I wear almost all the time.There is also Lazada, Temu, and Shoppee. Or you could have just gone over to my shoe lady and had the soles replaced for cheap. My mom had the same problem so I took her shoes in for the soles to be replaced. She also made 2 more pair of the same shoes of different colors, so she ended up doing the sole replacement for free. She has been making all of my crocodile and leather goods for years.

I took the arms of my desk chair to get reupholstered at another place. The guy said he would charge me 600 baht. When I picked them up a few days later, he said he did not do as good of a job as his dad would have done, so he only charged me 400 baht.

Horatio
10-15-24, 19:35
I've been to thailand a bit and ate mostly street food or at cheap cafes and mall food. But now I am trying to eat healthy. How easy is that to do? I'm wa ting more protein and less rice.

HorseTrader
10-15-24, 21:58
I've been to thailand a bit and ate mostly street food or at cheap cafes and mall food. But now I am trying to eat healthy. How easy is that to do? I'm wa ting more protein and less rice.Wanting more protein in a healthy form has not been easy in Thailand, I have the same cravings. There are many unhealthy solutions (e.g., expensive steak houses, bar food at pubs and restaurants in tourist areas, ex-pat places, good burger places (Quickie Burger or Shake Shack), overload on breakfast buffet protein).

My partial solution has been to eat fried chicken (remove skin) and sausages from street carts. There are some decent Thai seafood restaurants scattered around that prepare fish in a healthy way (e.g., steamed or grilled). which can be served with vegetables. Often I order stir fried morning glory in black pepper sauce with double pork, which still isn't a a lot of protein.

I'll be interested in reading other people's ideas on this.

Allover
10-15-24, 23:43
I have found that my best threesome happen when it the idea of the ladies and they pick each other. Trying to play matchmaker has never worked for me. I have had many threesomes over the years. In fact, I wrote about my last one.

Much success to you my ISG BrotherMy experience is limited as I only have had 2-3 experiences. Overall I think threesomes are usually overrated. Reading reports here seems to back that up. Agree that the girls must pick the second girl. Now twins or even a mother / daughter combo is something I would like to try.

SubCmdr
10-16-24, 00:31
All the places that sell grilled meats of all types. Available all over the place. At least all over the place where I roam, Restaurants that have the chickens prepared over the hot coals or electric heaters rotating until they cooked through and golden brown. Veggie Stir Fry. Simply entering in google maps health food restaurants, then going and see if the offerings fit your palette. Clear soup with vegetables, eggs and pork.

If you want things that are out of the norm, they are not going be served up to you on a platter. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of few or the one. Maybe a kitchen in your room would serve you well as you can control your meal prep. Honestly I do not know a single person who is truly focused on eating healthy that eats the majority of their food in restaurants. Period. Full Stop!

How you like me now?

Nyezhov
10-16-24, 01:02
Wanting more protein in a healthy form has not been easy in Thailand, I have the same cravings. There are many unhealthy solutions (e.g., expensive steak houses, bar food at pubs and restaurants in tourist areas, ex-pat places, good burger places (Quickie Burger or Shake Shack), overload on breakfast buffet protein).

My partial solution has been to eat fried chicken (remove skin) and sausages from street carts. There are some decent Thai seafood restaurants scattered around that prepare fish in a healthy way (e.g., steamed or grilled). which can be served with vegetables. Often I order stir fried morning glory in black pepper sauce with double pork, which still isn't a a lot of protein.

I'll be interested in reading other people's ideas on this.Well if you refuse to pay the price for a decent steak, don't complain you can't get a steak. Best protein there is.

Healthy street protein: Gai Yang. Grilled squid. Healthy restaurant food: Grilled pork neck and somtum. Or steamed fish (not tilapia).

Healthy protein for non cheap charlies: hotel buffets.

EihTooms
10-16-24, 02:41
Eating healthy
I've been to thailand a bit and ate mostly street food or at cheap cafes and mall food. But now I am trying to eat healthy. How easy is that to do? I'm wa ting more protein and less rice.There are a couple of low cost chain restaurants with several locations around Bangkok that are fine and at least claim to offer healthier choices. I don't know if they are in Pattaya too but they probably are.

One is called Get Fresh and the closest location to the Nana Plaza / Soi Cowboy lower Sukhumvit area is in the Terminal 21 mall at the corner of Sukhumvit and Asoke. Not sure exactly which level but one of the upper levels, maybe the same as the food hall level.

The other one is called Salad Factory and the nearest location to the Nana Plaza / Soi Cowboy lower Sukhumvit area is also in the above Terminal 21 Mall but on the bottom floor (below the ground floor). They offer much more than just salad; beef steak, chicken, fish, pork, pasta, pizza, etc.

I eat at Salad Factory fairly often. Their Caesar Salad with grilled chicken (I add bacon) is awesome.

However, as you can see by my addition of bacon that I am not exactly determined to eat as healthy as you might be.

The other issue is I honestly have no idea how healthy the food is in those places, only that they "claim" to offer healthier fare.

My assessment is if it tastes really good as that Salad Factory Caesar Salad does, it is probably not all that healthy and is loaded with stuff true health nuts try to avoid. Most healthy food does not taste very good.

Explorer8939
10-16-24, 10:59
My experience is limited as I only have had 2-3 experiences. Overall I think threesomes are usually overrated. Reading reports here seems to back that up. Agree that the girls must pick the second girl. Now twins or even a mother / daughter combo is something I would like to try.One tactical mistake I make is drinking with the ladies before the fun begins, since it makes me stupid.

Anyway, the ladies did their thing with each other, did a doubleheader with me, more pussy licking, and I finished by pounding one. But I should have had the other lady hold her legs up (instead I was holding her ankles in the air).

Next time, I will teach them scissoring, and then I might not see them again.

BTW, cost for the session was 4000 baht.

DogLife
10-18-24, 05:37
I did a pair years ago. Wonderful. Cost me a fortune but a lifelong memory.How do you know that the same girl is not coming twice? We need to see Clark Kent and Superman in same frame!

Nyezhov
10-18-24, 10:16
How do you know that the same girl is not coming twice? We need to see Clark Kent and Superman in same frame!There weren't gopros or cell phones or BTS then.

SubCmdr
10-18-24, 14:16
Over in the Rants Thread someone has proffered that I am just seeking attention when I post about my ATF. I will spare you gentlemen the prurient interest my critic seems to be showing in my underwear type (really? But I will talk about underwear. Hers:

I buy her Victoria Secret thongs. I don't know her favorite color. I let her pick the colors. And she looks great in them. Especially when she is dancing in them in just her heels on to traditional Thai music while entertaining me in my room. I bet the other men that be fucking her appreciate my good taste also. The Victoria Secrets Store is located on the sub ground floor where Tops is co-located in Central Mall.

This information will not do you any good if you are a un maditio tacano hombre (for the non Spanish speaking among is it means: a darn cheap man)!

But I certainly know how to order shoes online with the information that has been provided. Something that I have someone else to do for me. Don't understand why someone would suggest I do it myself. To me the suggestion was like telling me I could save money by beating off instead of paying a massage girl to suck my dick.

Yeah, I could do that shit, buy WHY? ROTFLMAO!

Mr Enternational
10-19-24, 18:50
Now I am going to point out the flaw in your logic. Tips don't raise prices. Inflation and supply and demand are what raise prices. Secondly, you can't compare what Thai people pay to what foreigners should pay. Economics 101.Now I will point out the flaw in yours. You are trying to use Western economics theories to explain Thailand. If inflation and supply and demand is what raises prices, then how do you expalin the exorbitant prices at gogos and some would say Soi 6. There are tons of girls and few punters.

There is no pure free market economy. Bars and girls can freely toggle prices how they see fit, caring less about what some Western economist said how things "should" work. We have been over time and time again how in non-Western countires they raise the price when business is slow in order to make the money from the few customers that they would ordinarily be making when there are more customers.

ElMexicant
10-20-24, 02:41
120 baht for at least 150 grams protein. Best bang for the buck. Less than a baht per gram. No excuses for being un healthy and not meeting your protein minimum.

EverythingThai
10-20-24, 05:07
Now I will point out the flaw in yours. You are trying to use Western economics theories to explain Thailand. If inflation and supply and demand is what raises prices, then how do you expalin the exorbitant prices at gogos and some would say Soi 6. There are tons of girls and few punters.

There is no pure free market economy. Bars and girls can freely toggle prices how they see fit, caring less about what some Western economist said how things "should" work. We have been over time and time again how in non-Western countires they raise the price when business is slow in order to make the money from the few customers that they would ordinarily be making when there are more customers.First about the Go Go bars on walking street, let's compare them to Horizon at the Hilton.Their cost of doing business is much higher too, rent and so on, location also plays a big part in that , as well. Then Soi 6, whoever said that area is supposed to be cheaper. I compare it to Sizzler. Then the gents clubs and beer bars, I compare them to let's say Kungs or the Hungry Hippo. You see, there are different levels of bar businesses with different prices. The flaw in your logic really shows when you think of covid. Yes, you forgot about that right. Demand went down, prices went down and you would get more value and service for your Baht. Yes, there are little region specific exceptions, but at the end of the day, demand goes down, prices go down. Demand goes up, prices go up. The same goes for low season compared to high season. Just not to the same extreme as what it was during covid, but alas, it's still the same. During low season, I have also lived in Pattaya. I would get lower prices and better service and well. Did you stay in Pattaya during covid? I did. A group of us had parties, where multiple girls would come over. The price we paid and the services we got would be impossible today for the same money. We had complete stunners doing things they would never even consider doing, but there were no customers and they had no choice. I have the videos to prove it too. End of story on this I think. THERE WERE NO CUSTOMERS. Yes, you can argue the supply went down too, but the decrease in demand outweighed the decrease in supply. This means there were still enough girls around and not enough customers.

The flaw in that guys comment on the original OPS post was that he said that tipping causes overall prices to go up and that is completely false and did not warrant him saying that his behavior was stupid. If the original op wants to. So, again, I will ask. Why is it ok for someone to call a poster stupid for tipping more than the norm, but it's not okay for someone to say 500 baht is no big deal? its that guys money and dick right?

What about inflation? Most expats in Pattaya refuse to believe inflation even exists in Thailand and it never exists in Pattaya in their minds. These are the same punters that complain that prices go up. They think girls and bars should continue too charge the same forever I think. Yes, we all want to save money and that's a given. However, inflation is a real thing in Thailand too. Maybe foreigners don't want to believe it or see it, but the Thais do. I have been in Thailand for 15 years and I kn ow you have been coming here for a long time as well. Rents are higher, food costs are higher, fuel prices are higher. Do I need to go on?


In summary, I agree there there certain circumstances that are like micro economics scenarios where prices change based on different circumstances, and I get that. That's when your logic makes some sense. However, overall, supply and demand plus inflation causes prices to go up.

Explorer8939
10-22-24, 01:31
Does anyone else have Facebook contacts for frequent bar fines?

Since I have a rotation of ladies, I've got FB for most of them (there are a couple who are LINE only). Usually, it's their real FB, so they show their Thai boyfriends, and lots of posts about their kids.

Some show their Farang customer boyfriends (which is why I never pose for photos with bar girls).

There are ladies I haven't seen for years who are still on my FB.

Explorer8939
10-22-24, 07:16
I was pinged on Messenger by a "lady" who is on Facebook normally in tiny bikinis. When I say "pinged", it was obviously a Farang catfishing me. She's got multiple FB accounts, so no idea if the one contacting me was the official account or not, although the account was posting photos of her regularly. I did notice that the account was just opened last month.

I occasionally got messages from her, which I usually deflected.

Finally, I got a message asking if I wanted to meet her, which I declined.

After that, "she" asked if I wanted to see X-rated content, which I also declined.

I suspect the whole thing was a scam to collect my credit card info.

Just posted as a possible scam alert.

Nuttin Serious
10-23-24, 04:47
Why would inflation have anything at all to do with the price of sex? Answer: it doesn't. Have any. At all.

Thai ladies are not assigned a job they have to do for a set price by the authorities. Supply and demand is immediate financial needs, personal feelings, preferences and pride. And the supply is static or now shrinking due to birthrate, while demand keeps growing. So the bid price goes up.

Ladies are all different.

One may be after as much money, as quickly as possible. Sex tourists will pay more and queue up, so she goes on TF, smiles and does what she needs to do. Or if she wants a bit of extra aecurity to make it bearable she take a soi6 contract.

The next may be short for rent or some kind of emergency. She does what she needs to do, but no way is she getting touched by some smelly foreigner who can't even speak the language, only make grunting sounds. She will wait for 2 locals at 700/1 rather than a single foreigner at 2000/1. And hope to meet some regulars, or a long term sponsor.

Another may be looking for free hookup for pleasure with nice young thai man. She posts on X to see what's out there. Do you think she wants to meet a sex tourist?? LOL! Theres plenty on X offering sex for free. My X account algorithm is finely tuned to the things I'm interested in!

1st Case in point. I took a student girl from X last year in Bangkok overnight, 5000 thb. I'm foreigner, don't speak thai, regular size for a white guy. She was 19, and desperate for rent money. When she turned up I flind out why she didn't have any regulars to take care of her. She had BO and stripey stomach. Had to give her a good wash.

2nd Case - 2 years ago exactly, I messaged another girl on X who wanted instant cash. She eventually replied and said OK, she would come to my hotel but 1000 thb farang surchange. She was youngand attractive, but her reply came through after I gave up waiting and was en route to a fiwfans booking.

3rd case of interest. That fiwfans booking.

Girl's last night in town, she was on a plane to Korea the next day for a 'working holiday'. Girl with a plan. She had a goal in mind and was saving up to buy an egg farm back in the province to live happily ever after.

So I can't imagine what the price of rice has to do with anything.

Supply and demand.


I thought I add some content here about prices. It was not long ago that 1000 baht was the norm on soi 6. Lets take 2017 and look at the thai CPI.

https://tradingeconomics.com/thailand/consumer-price-index-cpi

In 2017 January it was 98.15. In January 2024 its is 106.98. 107/98= 1. 09. So in generall almost a 10% price increase. In the same time the prices on soi 6 has increased with 100 %. But that is for tourists. Not for locals. It used to be cheaper in Pattaya but then they got more and more into the thing of having higher prices for tourists. So don't give me any of this bullshit about "don't expect to pay same as locals blah blah blah".

I add some pictures here to show what thais are paying for the same thing. I found them today.

Intrepid123
10-23-24, 08:47
Comparing Soi 6 today with 10-15 years ago makes no sense. It's a totally different monster now.

Back then we had bars with 6-10 isan ladies from very poor backgrounds, non-existent social media and only westerners (mostly old men) would venture in that Soi. It was 1000 b (or less) take it or leave it, and they were lucky if the customer bought them a couple drinks before going up.

Now the bars are swarming with 20+ ladies who already have the newest iPhone before arriving to work, who often have a very big social media following (sometimes OF on the side), and hundreds of Asian customers (especially Koreans) who have never bought less than 5 drinks at a time. These guys love to blow huge amounts on these girls, this is why every bar owner with half a brain has supplied their bars with shot "towers" that can hold up to 60 drinks. They get used quite often.

The 1000 b and 10% inflation mentality doesn't apply here, the product / service has completely changed.

KenjiYoshioka
10-23-24, 09:08
Why would inflation have anything at all to do with the price of sex? Answer: it doesn't. Have any. At all.

Thai ladies are not assigned a job they have to do for a set price by the authorities. Supply and demand is immediate financial needs, personal feelings, preferences and pride. And the supply is static or now shrinking due to birthrate, while demand keeps growing. So the bid price goes up.

Ladies are all different.

One may be after as much money, as quickly as possible. Sex tourists will pay more and queue up, so she goes on TF, smiles and does what she needs to do. Or if she wants a bit of extra aecurity to make it bearable she take a soi6 contract.

The next may be short for rent or some kind of emergency. She does what she needs to do, but no way is she getting touched by some smelly foreigner who can't even speak the language, only make grunting sounds. She will wait for 2 locals at 700/1 rather than a single foreigner at 2000/1. And hope to meet some regulars, or a long term sponsor.

Another may be looking for free hookup for pleasure with nice young thai man. She posts on X to see what's out there. Do you think she wants to meet a sex tourist?? LOL! Theres plenty on X offering sex for free. My X account algorithm is finely tuned to the things I'm interested in!

1st Case in point. I took a student girl from X last year in Bangkok overnight, 5000 thb. I'm foreigner, don't speak thai, regular size for a white guy. She was 19, and desperate for rent money. When she turned up I flind out why she didn't have any regulars to take care of her. She had BO and stripey stomach. Had to give her a good wash.

2nd Case - 2 years ago exactly, I messaged another girl on X who wanted instant cash. She eventually replied and said OK, she would come to my hotel but 1000 thb farang surchange. She was youngand attractive, but her reply came through after I gave up waiting and was en route to a fiwfans booking.

3rd case of interest. That fiwfans booking.

Girl's last night in town, she was on a plane to Korea the next day for a 'working holiday'. Girl with a plan. She had a goal in mind and was saving up to buy an egg farm back in the province to live happily ever after.

So I can't imagine what the price of rice has to do with anything.

Supply and demand.Riddle me this, then. If inflation has absolutely nothing to do with the general price of all goods and services, supply and demand, and the price of sex. . . Show me ONE INSTANCE IN HUMAN HISTORY where the price of sex has gone DOWN. And don't say an economic depression or recession; you'll just be proving my point.

Explorer8939
10-23-24, 15:22
Riddle me this, then. If inflation has absolutely nothing to do with the general price of all goods and services, supply and demand, and the price of sex. . . Show me ONE INSTANCE IN HUMAN HISTORY where the price of sex has gone DOWN. And don't say an economic depression or recession; you'll just be proving my point.Ladies were cheap during COVID.

KrumeLurer
10-23-24, 17:25
Out of these 5 pictures posted only one says she is based in Pattaya anyway, the one at 600 baht for 30 minutes and it's quite obvious she used the photoshop app at full scale.

Every others are based in Chonburi or Bang Saen except the one with "OMG" on her face which is in every single location in Thailand (typical ad from an agency trying to pimp their girls).Yes, much lower prices.


Comparing Soi 6 today with 10-15 years ago makes no sense. It's a totally different monster now.

Back then we had bars with 6-10 isan ladies from very poor backgrounds, non-existent social media and only westerners (mostly old men) would venture in that Soi. It was 1000 b (or less) take it or leave it, and they were lucky if the customer bought them a couple drinks before going up.

Now the bars are swarming with 20+ ladies who already have the newest iPhone before arriving to work, who often have a very big social media following (sometimes OF on the side), and hundreds of Asian customers (especially Koreans) who have never bought less than 5 drinks at a time. These guys love to blow huge amounts on these girls, this is why every bar owner with half a brain has supplied their bars with shot "towers" that can hold up to 60 drinks. They get used quite often.

The 1000 b and 10% inflation mentality doesn't apply here, the product / service has completely changed.So what you are saying is that there is a more supply now in those bars but higher prices despite that? The argument about the koreans would make sense if there was enough koreans for everybody, but there is not. Not on soi 6 and not in any other place. There is not enough koreans to keep all ladies busy. What happends is that the koreans go for the cutest girls and the rest get no customers or little off them when others get detered by the prices. Its exactly what has happened in gogo and Angeles city. This whole thing that is about high prices because koreans pay it really does not benefit the medium looking staff.


I have a few questions for you.

1. Have you ever tried to use one of these sideline websites or tried to contact one of these girls from X that cater to Thai Punters?

2. If yes? Do you speak Thai? Have you had good success?

3. Do you have a big dick?

4. Are you of Indian background?

As I have used these sideline websites, I can tell you this. If you think it's so easy for a foreigner, especially one on vacation who does not speak any Thai, has a big dick, or comes from a background that its unfairly stereo typed as a bad customer for Thai working girls, you are sadly mistaken that foreigners should have an easy time at paying the same as locals do. It is a different market and different ladies and customer all together.

I for one speak Thai, I don't have a big dick, and my background is not of a nationality that is unfairly stereotyped as a bad customer and I still need to spend at least 2 hours to get a meeting from one of these local sideline websites. Do you think the guys on vacation in Pattaya want to waste their precious vacation time dealing with drama from dick scared racist Thai ladies that can't speak even one word of English? No! They will go to Soi 6, beach road, or walking street because it's easy for them and that's what they have been exposed to online and on You Tube and so on.

As much as I give you credit for this post, it's not new info. Another punter did the same thing a page back if you read. Most punters in Pattaya on holiday will have no use for this info. On the other hand an expat may want to take a shot and that's me. I have the time as I live here. Alas, most don't.

Your post would make a lot more sense if it was not in the Pattaya section. If it was in another section like Bangkok, Isaan or the South it would make more sense. IMHOI am not indian. My point is to show what thais pay in realtion to tourist. And compare that to prices a few years ago and the CPI. We can see that the price increases are for tourists.

Werqweq
10-23-24, 19:21
I've been to thailand a bit and ate mostly street food or at cheap cafes and mall food. But now I am trying to eat healthy. How easy is that to do? I'm wa ting more protein and less rice.Easy. Search for "gai yang" (grilled chicken) in google maps for something delicious, and then use Grab to get to the nearest one, or even order to your room via grab if you prefer that.

Apart from that, I second EihTooms's salad recommendation. Myself I much prefer the Get Fresh chain to Salad factory (eaten at the latter once or twice, and more times than I remember at the former. Get their card if you're staying for a while for an effective 10% discount). There's also a very good salad shop a 20 minute walk down Soi 21, roughly opposite of the SWU university, near Tim Horton's, though the name escapes me at the moment. Couple either of them with some fish or meat.

In addition to that, the various food courts at the shopping malls. A zillion choices for cheap meat and vegetables. Pick and choose. Even the one at the sub-top floor of Terminal 21 is fine, if you get there at a time when it's not overflowing with noisy Chinese, though you will have a much better experience at the food hall at the bottom floor of Emquartier (a bit more expensive also however).

Last resort is just buy some readymade fish or chicken at the supermarket (e. G. , Tops) and eat it in your room if you can stand the smell, but it's been laying there the whole day and while I've never gotten sick from it, it doesn't taste particularly good either.

SubCmdr
10-23-24, 20:19
A individual wrote this:


Motherfucker one came with a post about how much he loves the prostitute who lives with him because she takes him for a tour in Pattaya from time to time.What exactly is the point this poster was trying to make?

For me, pussy only has real value when I have an emotional connection to the the pussy life support system. Without this connection a mouth, pussy or ass is just a place that assists me with ejaculation. Once ejaculation occurs I lose all interest in the pussy life support system that just assisted me with my ejaculation and I move on.

This is why I write: Pussy is Pussy.

I am talking about transactional sex that has absolutely no emotional component. That is why I cannot engage in the fantasy of GFE. I have real girlfriends and so not matter what this girl does my mind will not let me get past the idea that I am paying her to do whatever it is she is doing. You see I don't engage in self delusion.

So, if a individual cannot make or chooses not to make an emotional connection with ANY pussy life support system on this earth that is their call. But in my opinion that is a individual devoid of life and inner satisfaction.

A individual who thinks like the one who wrote the quote above is either emotionally unavailable to or they have a issue with a girl being a prostitute. That somehow a prostitute is not equal to him a human being and therefore does not deserve appreciation or love. He then goes on to double down on his belief by stating explicitly that he is better than me because: he is in it for the pussy, he dont love dem hos.

Like I said before: your time; your money; your dick; your call.

But do not come up in here trying to imply that you are better than any other International Trick that lays down with prostitutes. You nor any of the others are not coming to Thailand and dating engineers, lawyers and doctors. If you and the others are then are WHY would the be writing about those girls here?

One of the things that amazes me about Pattaya is that EVERY MAN and I do mean every man has a girl here. I do not know the nature of the relationships I see but, often the there is often more than a two point difference in the visual rating of the individuals. With the higher number going to the girl (ie. Guy 4 Girl 7). When I see that it is a beautiful thing. Society owes men. Men make the sacrifices that need to be made to create the society that exists today. They deserve sex.

That does not happen in developed nations. Developed nations put men into sexual prison so that they can be controlled. Make no mistake this occurs because the top 10% of men want it that way. They want to have access to all the pussy while 90% who put in the real work to make societies run struggle to get any pussy at all. Make no mistake, feminism is supported by men at the top that benefit from the system. The men who have the looks, personality and money to give them choices.

I have none of that. So my way around the problem at my age is to maintain relationships around the world where I have an emotional conception to pussy life support system. ATF is one of those relationships. So, look down at me if you want to. I'm good with it. Why?

because I am at peace with myself and all others

SubCmdr
10-23-24, 20:23
The inflation of pussy prices is a something that exists only in the minds of those who are currently experiencing resource scarcity or have not really traveled the world as International Tricks.

Pussy prices for me are down 50 - 70 percent over the last 10 years

Banana Boi
10-23-24, 23:10
2 million baht per year to be a bar manager. Guess that's not bad for Pattaya cost of living. Not the best but manageable. Personally I'd go for Assistant bar manager for only 5000 baht per month less. Seems a lot less stressful for only 5000 baht per month less.

120 waitresses? That seems like a lot!

What is a Captain?

How many weeks vacation do I get? What is my medical and dental coverage?

Banana Boi
10-23-24, 23:24
What happends is that the koreans go for the cutest girls and the rest get no customers or little off them when others get detered by the prices. Its exactly what has happened in gogo and Angeles city. This whole thing that is about high prices because koreans pay it really does not benefit the medium looking staff.I've always had a similar question. Everywhere we see blame on the Koreans and Japanese increasing the prices. Look at the type of girls the Koreans and Japanese generally go for. They have a certain look. Koreans and Japanese wouldn't touch 80-90% of the "Farang" style girls. This is only from my extensive Walking Street gogo bar experience. The girls who get barfined are the SAME ones night in night out. There are MANY girls I have never seen barfined unless the customer is named Rob Jones.

Explorer8939
10-23-24, 23:58
I thought I add some content here about prices. It was not long ago that 1000 baht was the norm on soi 6. Lets take 2017 and look at the thai CPI.

https://tradingeconomics.com/thailand/consumer-price-index-cpi

In 2017 January it was 98.15. In January 2024 its is 106.98. 107/98= 1. 09. So in generall almost a 10% price increase. In the same time the prices on soi 6 has increased with 100 %. But that is for tourists. Not for locals. It used to be cheaper in Pattaya but then they got more and more into the thing of having higher prices for tourists. So don't give me any of this bullshit about "don't expect to pay same as locals blah blah blah".

I add some pictures here to show what thais are paying for the same thing. I found them today.For a Thai man to pay for sex in Pattaya is sad. Many bar girls pay for sex with a Thai man, one way or another. For a younger Thai man to have to pay rent in Pattaya is rare.

Explorer8939
10-24-24, 00:12
One of the drawbacks of living in Thailand for 5+ years is watching bargirls age out.

There are 40 year olds (when I first met them) who don't work anymore. Either they are just too old, or sick, or dead. Some try to get by as housekeepers, some go back to Isaan to work rice. One problem they have is most have lost their sex drive, so boom-boom is hard for them.

The 30 year olds mostly haven't aged well. For one thing, their heads are rounder. Thai models have narrow heads, grandmas have round heads.

The 20 years are still okay, but cracks are showing, particularly for those who use yabba. They are beginning to show signs of grandma mode, even though they are young.

Lots of wear and tear for bargirls.

Explorer8939
10-24-24, 00:34
I am renewing my Thai visa today. That means I have to hand over my passport and supporting documents to a visa agency, for processing.

As a result, I won't have a passport for an indefinite period, and without a passport, I can't travel. No hotel stays, no airplane rides. Basically, I am stuck in my condo in Pattaya.

I will try to make the best of it, but High Season is coming, and many ladies on my rotation are busy with customers, or have customer boyfriends visiting.

I might have to hit some bars. Wish me luck.

LittleBigMan
10-24-24, 01:07
2 million baht per year to be a bar manager. Guess that's not bad for Pattaya cost of living. Not the best but manageable. Personally I'd go for Assistant bar manager for only 5000 baht per month less. Seems a lot less stressful for only 5000 baht per month less.

120 waitresses? That seems like a lot!

What is a Captain?

How many weeks vacation do I get? What is my medical and dental coverage?BB, curious how you get the two million number?

40,000 x 12 = 480,000 baht a year.

Banana Boi
10-24-24, 01:23
BB, curious how you get the two million number?

40,000 x 12 = 480,000 baht a year.Thought that was weekly salary! Are you saying a Pattaya bar manager overseeing 200 staff and bar girls makes 14,000 USD per year? That's only 1315 baht ($39 US) per day! WTF.

SubCmdr
10-24-24, 01:28
I do not understand this post:


I've always had a similar question. Everywhere we see blame on the Koreans and Japanese increasing the prices. Look at the type of girls the Koreans and Japanese generally go for. They have a certain look. Koreans and Japanese wouldn't touch 80-90% of the "Farang" style girls. This is only from my extensive Walking Street gogo bar experience. The girls who get barfined are the SAME ones night in night out. There are MANY girls I have never seen barfined unless the customer is named Rob Jones.The Japanese and Koreans only want to rent Lamborghinis or Ferraris. They are willing to pay for them. So what exactly is the problem? If you also want to rent Lamborghinis or Ferraris you simply pay the rental fee.

How does one justify complaining about prices in a market system? If you cannot afford a rent a Lamborghini or Ferrari then you better stay in your economic lane and rent the MB, BMW or Audi. In my opinion people making these complaints want something but they don't want to pay for it. To me that smacks of FSS (Farang Superiority Syndrome) If you are going fly half way around the world and you want to operate in a different culture then you better bring your A game or go back to the part of the world where you feel superior.

This is not directed at you Banana Boi. I am a considered a new poster here according to statements I have read just recently even though I have been posting here on a consistent basis for nearly 18 months. So please explain it to me. Because it looks like a bunch of wage slaves that have not put the work in to be able to pay for what they want criticizing individuals who have simply because they don't look like them. I have a word for that. But I won't use it yet until I gain more understanding of the situation.

Mr Enternational
10-24-24, 05:11
Thought that was weekly salary! Are you saying a Pattaya bar manager overseeing 200 staff and bar girls makes 14,000 USD per year? That's only 1315 baht ($39 US) per day! WTF.That is not only. That is a damn good amount for the average Thai person. Remember the minimum wage is 300 baht per day. These bar folks are not getting rich. Most of them have not even finished high school. Now can you understand why chicks will accept 1200 baht LT. Some people come to pattaya and make 400 and 500 per day in normal jobs. I know a girl that works in a Russian restaurant making 400 per day. She said the Russians do not give tips. Most people would kill to get 1300 baht per day.

Banana Boi
10-24-24, 07:24
Japanese and Koreans are to blame for what exactly?

I do not understand this post:

The Japanese and Koreans only want to rent Lamborghinis or Ferraris. They are willing to pay for them. So what exactly is the problem? If you also want to rent Lamborghinis or Ferraris you simply pay the rental fee.

How does one justify complaining about prices in a market system? If you cannot afford a rent a Lamborghini or Ferrari then you better stay in your economic lane and rent the MB, BMW or Audi. In my opinion people making these complaints want something but they don't want to pay for it. To me that smacks of FSS (Farang Superiority Syndrome) If you are going fly half way around the world and you want to operate in a different culture then you better bring your A game or go back to the part of the world where you feel superior.I agree with your analysis 100% You can't expect a Maserati when you pay for a Toyota Camry.

From years ago those who "felt" priced out of the market (due to Japanese and Koreans raising prices) continually posted in the Thailand threads how their "rich" Asian counterparts are ruining Thailand pricing. This is why I mentioned that the Koreans and Japanese aren't even going after the same girls the "Farang" are. Currently I've been reading the Philippines threads and all I read is how the Koreans have ruined the market by paying higher rates. Now I haven't been to PI yet but I can bet when I arrive the so called "Korean bars" have way better quality girls than the "Farang bars" (no different than Walking Street vs LK Metro gogo bars in Pattaya). So where will I be? At the "Korean bars".

I'm not sure if I answered your questions. I believe we're on the same side. I always laugh when I hear a guy saying they don't like gogo bars. For me what's not to like. 100+ girls dancing in your face. But when they admit why they don't like gogo bars it always comes down to the Benjamins. They don't want to pay the going rate for the "best looking" girls. ST and LT for gogo bars have been the same since at least 2015. BF for Pattaya has gone up a tad because of tiered pricing in 2016. Lady drinks are out of control but all you really have to do is buy one. None if you're a "handsum man".

SubCmdr
10-24-24, 07:34
I agree with your analysis 100% You can't expect a Maserati when you pay for a Toyota Camry.

From years ago those who "felt" priced out of the market (due to Japanese and Koreans raising prices) continually posted in the Thailand threads how their "rich" Asian counterparts are ruining Thailand pricing. This is why I mentioned that the Koreans and Japanese aren't even going after the same girls the "Farang" are. Currently I've been reading the Philippines threads and all I read is how the Koreans have ruined the market by paying higher rates. Now I haven't been to PI yet but I can bet when I arrive the so called "Korean bars" have way better quality girls than the "Farang bars" (no different than Walking Street vs LK Metro gogo bars in Pattaya). So where will I be? At the "Korean bars".

I'm not sure if I answered your questions. I believe we're on the same side. I always laugh when I hear a guy saying they don't like gogo bars. For me what's not to like. 100+ girls dancing in your face. But when they admit why they don't like gogo bars it's because they don't want to pay for the "best looking" girls. ST and LT for gogo bars have been the same since at least 2015. BF for Pattaya at least has gone up a tad because of tiered pricing in 2016. Lady drinks are out of control but all you really have to do is buy one. None if you're a "handsum man".I will be the first to admit that 90% of the girls in the gogo bars are younger and more attractive than the girls I pull off of Thai Friendly even if they are young. But I pay 1000 - 1500 THB on average with no lady drinks and no bar fine. Now, I am not hating on Agogos or the guys who Bar Fine the girls from them. I just do me, they can do things as they choose. I just have yet to be able to justify the money it takes to take a girl out of Agogo. Don't get me wrong. I'll buy a bottle up in the place and ball like a mother fucking pro. But afterwards I'll goto look for a princess standing under a palm tree and take her to the short time hotel for 1250 THB total. That's just me. One day I am going to bar fine a girl out of Agogo. It will be a special night for me.

KumuMan
10-24-24, 07:53
I do not understand this post:

The Japanese and Koreans only want to rent Lamborghinis or Ferraris. They are willing to pay for them. So what exactly is the problem? If you also want to rent Lamborghinis or Ferraris you simply pay the rental fee.

How does one justify complaining about prices in a market system? If you cannot afford a rent a Lamborghini or Ferrari then you better stay in your economic lane and rent the MB, BMW or Audi. In my opinion people making these complaints want something but they don't want to pay for it. To me that smacks of FSS (Farang Superiority Syndrome) If you are going fly half way around the world and you want to operate in a different culture then you better bring your A game or go back to the part of the world where you feel superior.

This is not directed at you Banana Boi. I am a considered a new poster here according to statements I have read just recently even though I have been posting here on a consistent basis for nearly 18 months. So please explain it to me. Because it looks like a bunch of wage slaves that have not put the work in to be able to pay for what they want criticizing individuals who have simply because they don't look like them. I have a word for that. But I won't use it yet until I gain more understanding of the situation.Well said SB truly a realistic perspective.

Intrepid123
10-24-24, 08:32
So what you are saying is that there is a more supply now in those bars but higher prices despite that? The argument about the koreans would make sense if there was enough koreans for everybody, but there is not. Not on soi 6 and not in any other place. There is not enough koreans to keep all ladies busy. What happends is that the koreans go for the cutest girls and the rest get no customers or little off them when others get detered by the prices. Its exactly what has happened in gogo and Angeles city. This whole thing that is about high prices because koreans pay it really does not benefit the medium looking staff.It's more like the higher prices are causing more girls to be attracted to Soi 6. Many do fail of course. The ones that are shy, fat, ugly, old. - but many others can make a ton of money if they play their cards right. The word spreads and more want to come.

There might not be Koreans for everyone but there are MUCH more Koreans now than before Covid. I was in a bar the other day having a few drinks with a girl. I bought her like 2-3 drinks in the 30 minutes we were together. And I noticed a Korean dude sitting along across the bar and giving me a bad look (the girl was all over me). Anyway I was about to leave and as soon as I went to pay my bill he immediately pulled the horn and also bought her a huge tower of 36 shots.

I don't consider myself a very cheap guy, I might even buy a rack if the girl deserves it, but this Korean was "worth" 8-10 times a customer like myself.

LittleBigMan
10-24-24, 09:13
Thought that was weekly salary! Are you saying a Pattaya bar manager overseeing 200 staff and bar girls makes 14,000 USD per year? That's only 1315 baht ($39 US) per day! WTF.I don't know any manager Thai that gets paid weekly. It is usually monthly I will have to look at the add again. But you might have a point since ad is listed with other jobs. Although everything seem to be based on 7-10-15 contract until it can be confirm? I'm opened?

Prior to covid the Happy group, Happy, Pepprmint, Beach, Bacarra I knew all the Thai manager know that wasnt the case although majority were monthly contract then the amount listed was what it was thrown out to me then.

If that amount is a week there would be Doctors / Lawyers applying LOL, I know one of the mamasan at Peppermint former showgirl Barrara doesn't make that otherwise she wouldn't be begging me to buy her drinks LOL.

The pay for spreading one leg is on a different level different work rules there is positive and negatives to going legit.
Being in Union labor I had supervisor they couldnt wait for a chance to get out once they found out my take home pay.

XXL
10-24-24, 09:19
One of the drawbacks of living in Thailand for 5+ years is watching bargirls age out.

...Not only in Thailand. Being a john for years on end in any country puts you in a good position to realize women's short shelf life. It's exceptional for a girl to still be attractive enough 5 years on. All the more reason never to marry.

There are outliers but there's no way to know in advance. Usually if you start with a girl when she's say 28 and she is still nearly as hot when she is 33, chances are she'll still be kind of hot at 40. All the same, it's sad to have to stop seeing a girl because she's past it. My own ageing depresses me, but the ageing of women who meant somewhat to me in my life depresses me even more.

Expat American
10-24-24, 09:27
I've always had a similar question. Everywhere we see blame on the Koreans and Japanese increasing the prices. Look at the type of girls the Koreans and Japanese generally go for. They have a certain look. Koreans and Japanese wouldn't touch 80-90% of the "Farang" style girls. This is only from my extensive Walking Street gogo bar experience. The girls who get barfined are the SAME ones night in night out. There are MANY girls I have never seen barfined unless the customer is named Rob Jones.For many years White culture dominated the world, a legacy of colonialism. As a result white skin was revered, especially in Asia. Now Korean and Japanese culture is ascending. This went along with the growth of the Tiger economies and the decline in the West. As the stock of White skin has fallen, there is a lot of angst amongst the singlet wearing beer bellied pensioners from Europe and America about how the Asians are "spoiling the market". White men need to get used to the fact that just having pale skin is no longer a ticket to free or unlimited low cost pussy in SEA. Even in poorer countries like Philippines and Indonesia women are no longer throwing themselves at any random white man. The world has changed and is never going back to how it was. You can adapt to the game or drop out but its not changing for you.

Nyezhov
10-24-24, 09:34
Not only in Thailand. Being a john for years on end in any country puts you in a good position to realize women's short shelf life. It's exceptional for a girl to still be attractive enough 5 years on. All the more reason never to marry.

There are outliers but there's no way to know in advance. Usually if you start with a girl when she's say 28 and she is still nearly as hot when she is 33, chances are she'll still be kind of hot at 40. All the same, it's sad to have to stop seeing a girl because she's past it. My own ageing depresses me, but the ageing of women who meant somewhat to me in my life depresses me even more.My rule is below 30. I won't fuck an over 30 unless she is a screaming hottie.

HorseTrader
10-24-24, 14:03
My rule is below 30. I won't fuck an over 30 unless she is a screaming hottie.I have no hard age requirements. Last trip I had 6 girls who stood out above the rest: three were under 23 years, one was mid 30's, and two were mid to late 40's. The few poor sessions I had were with 20-something girls.

Remember that we don’t really know their ages until we see their ID. It is common for them to tell us a younger age and then have an ID that shows much older. This is a side perk of reception holding her ID while she is in your room.

Banana Boi
10-24-24, 14:10
I will be the first to admit that 90% of the girls in the gogo bars are younger and more attractive than the girls I pull off of Thai Friendly even if they are young. But I pay 1000 - 1500 THB on average with no lady drinks and no bar fine. Now, I am not hating on Agogos or the guys who Bar Fine the girls from them. I just do me, they can do things as they choose. I just have yet to be able to justify the money it takes to take a girl out of Agogo. Don't get me wrong. I'll buy a bottle up in the place and ball like a mother fucking pro. But afterwards I'll goto look for a princess standing under a palm tree and take her to the short time hotel for 1250 THB total. That's just me.You do you. I do me. Bottom line is what we both found something that works for US. I'm sure there are a ton of girls available online that are pretty. I found one of my favorite WS gogo girls on TF during COVID for a fraction of the cost you would pay to BF her from Palace. I'm just much too lazy to sift through trying to find them. My fingers get too sore scanning left or right.


That is not only. That is a damn good amount for the average Thai person. Remember the minimum wage is 300 baht per day.

I guess in my mind I was thinking of Farang bar managers for some reason. Certainly the Farang manager at a busy Soi 6 bar or a place like like Billabong or Maggie May (no idea if their managers are Thai or Farang) isn't working there for 14k USD per annum?

SubCmdr
10-24-24, 15:00
You do you. I do me.Wouldn't have it any other way No reason for anyone to get defensive while reading my words up in here. I am a complete advocate of people being able to do things the way they want and to be able to report it without it being sliced and diced to death by those welding their ginsu keyboards.


Bottom line is what we both found something that works for US.Absolutely!


I'm sure there are a ton of girls available online that are pretty.I didn't say the girls online are NOT pretty. Just the opposite. I was just comparing and contrasting. Giving you my view that when I go out and look at girls in person I can see WHY the market is the way it is with my own eyeballs.

I walked past XS early just a few nights ago and there were a ton of girls standing outside. I carefully looked at each an everyone of them. I understand how a certain type of man might find them esthetically pleasing. But I thought they were just a bunch of knock kneed bimbos walking like hos. NO ASS! Well there was one with ass. She was fine as fuck. I would have bar fined her after a drink or two.

For me it comes down to this: Like when I was in 808 and the DJ played Not Like Us by Kendrick Lamar. It goes a little something like this:

The settlers was usin' town folk to make 'em richer
Fast-forward, 2024, you got the same agenda
They not like us, they not like us, they not like us!


For many years White culture dominated the world, a legacy of colonialism. As a result white skin was revered, especially in Asia. Now Korean and Japanese culture is ascending. This went along with the growth of the Tiger economies and the decline in the West. As the stock of White skin has fallen, there is a lot of angst amongst the singlet wearing beer bellied pensioners from Europe and America about how the Asians are "spoiling the market". White men need to get used to the fact that just having pale skin is no longer a ticket to free or unlimited low cost pussy in SEA. Even in poorer countries like Philippines and Indonesia women are no longer throwing themselves at any random white man. The world has changed and is never going back to how it was. You can adapt to the game or drop out but its not changing for you.DAMN STRAIGHT brother. Let them know what time it is up in here!


I found one of my favorite WS gogo girls on TF during COVID for a fraction of the cost you would pay to BF her from Palace. I'm just much too lazy to sift through trying to find them. My fingers get too sore scanning left or right.Everyone has their own style I found a Soi 6 girl who comes over after her shift and sees me for a fraction of the cost she charges in the Soi 6 bar. No No Lady Drinks; No bar fine; There are many ways to hire a prostitute in Pattaya. That is why I like the place so much.

SubCmdr
10-24-24, 15:06
I have no hard age requirements. Last trip I had 6 girls who stood out above the rest: three were under 23 years, one was mid 30's, and two were mid to late 40's. The few poor sessions I had were with 20-something girls.

Remember that we dont really know their ages until we see their ID. It is common for them to tell us a younger age and then have an ID that shows much older. This is a side perk of reception holding her ID while she is in your room.I don't care how old she is. I care about the cost for me to ejaculate into one of her orifices. Some 40 year olds have slim firm gym bodies. Some girls in their 20's are fat and out of shape. What I have noticed is that older gals really like the sex you give them. My Big Black Dick be sending girls into convulsive, eye rolling, orgasmic fits. Dem bitches should be paying me. Holla!


My rule is below 30. I won't fuck an over 30 unless she is a screaming hottie.If hard and fast rules work for you that is great!

FYI, I'm still here! ROTFLMAO!

Turgid
10-24-24, 15:48
For a Thai man to pay for sex in Pattaya is sad. Many bar girls pay for sex with a Thai man, one way or another. For a younger Thai man to have to pay rent in Pattaya is rare.Question: Do go-go girls pay for sex with Thai guys?

Mr Enternational
10-24-24, 17:27
I guess in my mind I was thinking of Farang bar managers for some reason. Certainly the Farang manager at a busy Soi 6 bar or a place like like Billabong or Maggie May (no idea if their managers are Thai or Farang) isn't working there for 14k USD per annum?You would be surprised. How much do you think expat English teachers are making? Not much more. This is Thailand. Unless you came to Thailand under the contract of a multinational corporation, then you are going to make what Thais make. There is no Thai pay / Foreigner pay. Thailand is cheap for a reason. There are low labor costs.

Nyezhov
10-24-24, 22:13
For many years White culture dominated the world, a legacy of colonialism. As a result white skin was revered, especially in Asia. Now Korean and Japanese culture is ascending. This went along with the growth of the Tiger economies and the decline in the West. As the stock of White skin has fallen, there is a lot of angst amongst the singlet wearing beer bellied pensioners from Europe and America about how the Asians are "spoiling the market". White men need to get used to the fact that just having pale skin is no longer a ticket to free or unlimited low cost pussy in SEA. Even in poorer countries like Philippines and Indonesia women are no longer throwing themselves at any random white man. The world has changed and is never going back to how it was. You can adapt to the game or drop out but its not changing for you.Western culture still dominates the world even though racists prefer to call that white culture. Anybody can be a member of Western culture by accepting Western values. That being said for the racial obsessed, the bar girls love my giant white beer belly and pale white skin, white hair, white beard and despite my Advanced years of repulsive appearance, I can't walk into a local market in Cambodia without having potential lives lined up. That being said, I'm not exactly proud of the fact that any granny over the age of 40 wood take me in a heartbeat, but it's nice to be wanted.

UglyAzzMan
10-25-24, 01:22
Wouldn't have it any other way No reason for anyone to get defensive while reading my words up in here. I am a complete advocate of people being able to do things the way they want and to be able to report it without it being sliced and diced to death by those welding their ginsu keyboards.

Absolutely!

I didn't say the girls online are NOT pretty. Just the opposite. I was just comparing and contrasting. Giving you my view that when I go out and look at girls in person I can see WHY the market is the way it is with my own eyeballs.

I walked past XS early just a few nights ago and there were a ton of girls standing outside. I carefully looked at each an everyone of them. I understand how a certain type of man might find them esthetically pleasing. But I thought they were just a bunch of knock kneed bimbos walking like hos. NO ASS! Well there was one with ass. She was fine as fuck. I would have bar fined her after a drink or two.

For me it comes down to this: Like when I was in 808 and the DJ played Not Like Us by Kendrick Lamar. It goes a little something like this:

The settlers was usin' town folk to make 'em richer
Fast-forward, 2024, you got the same agenda
They not like us, they not like us, they not like us!

DAMN STRAIGHT brother. Let them know what time it is up in here!

Everyone has their own style I found a Soi 6 girl who comes over after her shift and sees me for a fraction of the cost she charges in the Soi 6 bar. No No Lady Drinks; No bar fine; There are many ways to hire a prostitute in Pattaya. That is why I like the place so much.This soi 6 after hours girl. How ugly is she. Hahahaha.

Explorer8939
10-25-24, 01:36
Question: Do go-go girls pay for sex with Thai guys?The more they make, the more they pay.

But it's not pay for service, Thai men are smarter than that. The payment comes in the form of buying cars for their Tilac, or loans that are never paid back.

I am seeing a few cases where Thai men recruit ladies for the gogos so they can sponge off them. One former gogo dancer told me that her Thai man wasn't too greedy, but his mother was constantly pumping her for money.

Explorer8939
10-25-24, 01:39
I don't care how old she is. I care about the cost for me to ejaculate into one of her orifices. Some 40 year olds have slim firm gym bodies. Some girls in their 20's are fat and out of shape. What I have noticed is that older gals really like the sex you give them. My Big Black Dick be sending girls into convulsive, eye rolling, orgasmic fits. Dem bitches should be paying me. Holla!

If hard and fast rules work for you that is great!

FYI, I'm still here! ROTFLMAO!I took a 50 year old to Vietnam and a 25 year old to Singapore. The older lady had a much tighter body and was a better fuck. Except she was a massage lady, so it was a massage lady fuck.

The 25 year old had no skills, or interest in sex, completely passive, except for the big finish, when she would do cowboy to get me to finish quicker.

Horatio
10-25-24, 02:59
Are prices in hua hin about the same as pattaya? Are there any tourist areas that are cheaper than pattaya? I'm just looking for easy commercial sex with emphasis on easy.

I'll do a report on hua hin in a couple months. I'm heading to thailand first of December.

Explorer8939
10-25-24, 09:23
Are prices in hua hin about the same as pattaya? Are there any tourist areas that are cheaper than pattaya? I'm just looking for easy commercial sex with emphasis on easy.

I'll do a report on hua hin in a couple months. I'm heading to thailand first of December.If only there were a section here on Hua Hin.

MadDin19
10-25-24, 12:46
What about inflation? Most expats in Pattaya refuse to believe inflation even exists in Thailand and it never exists in Pattaya in their minds. These are the same punters that complain that prices go up. They think girls and bars should continue too charge the same forever I think. Yes, we all want to save money and that's a given. However, inflation is a real thing in Thailand too. Maybe foreigners don't want to believe it or see it, but the Thais do. I have been in Thailand for 15 years and I kn ow you have been coming here for a long time as well. Rents are higher, food costs are higher, fuel prices are higher. Do I need to go on?
Fifteen years ago, boum boum on Soi 6 cost 700 baht. So with inflation at 2% it should cost 950 baht today, right? In fact, it now costs 1500-2000 baht.

15 years ago the bus cost 10 baht. How much does it cost today? The same.

The prices for beer and food and hotels are roughly based on the inflation rate. That's okay. But what girls are demanding these days has nothing to do with inflation.

MrEnternational said:

"We have been over time and time again how in non-Western countries they raise the price when business is slow in order to make the money from the few customers that they would ordinarily be making when there are more customers."

That's exactly the point. Asian thinking.

Horatio
10-25-24, 16:57
If only there were a section here on Hua Hin.I didn't want to make a report. I wanted to chat.

EverythingThai
10-25-24, 17:20
I didn't want to make a report. I wanted to chat.This chat area is for shooting the shit. The sections for areas are for reporting and asking asking questions about that said area. So, if you want to ask questions about a specific area, but you come to the lounge and chat section, you will not get your answers here. You will get your answers from the guys that report in the Hua Hin section. Therefore, you have two choices. Choice one, ask here about Hua Hin and get no answers, or ask in the Hua Hin section and get your answers from the punters that post in the Hua Hin section. In fact, if you RTFF in the Hua Hin section, you might even find your answer. Hope this helps.

HorseTrader
10-25-24, 17:37
Are prices in hua hin about the same as pattaya? Are there any tourist areas that are cheaper than pattaya? I'm just looking for easy commercial sex with emphasis on easy.

I'll do a report on hua hin in a couple months. I'm heading to thailand first of December.I've been to most of the major tourist areas except Chiang Mai. It is difficult to give a direct price comparison because each area is a different environment with a different number of options. If trying to compare equal girl beauty, services, and price:

1. Phuket seems to be the most expensive, but also offers high percentage of attractive girls.

2. Bangkok seems 2nd most expensive girls.

3. Pattaya and many other places are about the same girl price (Samui, Hua Hin, Ao Nang, etc.).

Again, each town has different offerings. LK Metro, Soi 6 and Walking Street are all very different. Lamai and Chaweng in Samui are different. Not many options in Ao Nang or Hua Hin and they aren't the top tier girls you might find in the Phuket go go places.

SubCmdr
10-25-24, 18:43
This chat area is for shooting the shit. The sections for areas are for reporting and asking asking questions about that said area. So, if you want to ask questions about a specific area, but you come to the lounge and chat section, you will not get your answers here. You will get your answers from the guys that report in the Hua Hin section. Therefore, you have two choices. Choice one, ask here about Hua Hin and get no answers, or ask in the Hua Hin section and get your answers from the punters that post in the Hua Hin section. In fact, if you RTFF in the Hua Hin section, you might even find your answer. Hope this helps.Like a baller you just took the rock to the hole and dunked in his mother fucking face! Love it! I too am a advocate of using the threads as they are supposed to be used. So, keep kicking that knowledge into their eye holes. Somebody has to do it and they are not listening to me.

SubCmdr
10-25-24, 18:50
This soi 6 after hours girl. How ugly is she. Hahahaha.She wasn't ugly! Especially not to me. Because she set the pussy rental price right. It was just right for my wallet. It allowed my Big Black Dick to wear her nasty thing out.

Now can the Pattaya Clown Car crew appearance police roll out of here and look for another suspect?

How you like me now?

SubCmdr
10-25-24, 18:56
So, I am watching the red and green candles form on my screen. One of my take profit levels have already been hit and I have sold off half my position. I am waiting for the the other half of my portion to hit TP but just in case I have moved my Stop Loss into profit. No matter what happens I'll make enough money to pay for the Thai Friendly girl I am waiting for to come over.

I am about to get my Big Black Dick wet and blow sponge in Thai girl mouth and pussy. What are you gentleman doing other than just beating on your keyboards?

Horatio
10-25-24, 19:59
This chat area is for shooting the shit. The sections for areas are for reporting and asking asking questions about that said area. So, if you want to ask questions about a specific area, but you come to the lounge and chat section, you will not get your answers here. You will get your answers from the guys that report in the Hua Hin section. Therefore, you have two choices. Choice one, ask here about Hua Hin and get no answers, or ask in the Hua Hin section and get your answers from the punters that post in the Hua Hin section. In fact, if you RTFF in the Hua Hin section, you might even find your answer. Hope this helps.This post was rather quickly proved to be false. I hope this post is chatty enough for you. I hate the petty arguing here so I will quit my part of it. Have a great day. .