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For who wants to discover new YY, discount for Sunday, Monday and Tuesday entry for 50 , with HH 40 . At least, good foods. Basic for girls is 70/30 .Is Jane and Monika spotted there?
Is Jane and Monika spotted there?Jane was at GG when polizei closed, but not Monika. Some GG girls try YY, or Bab. Thaï Lulu is at Penelope as massage.
So I have a simple question (unfortunately I've been out of mongering proper for almost a decade). What's the costs like at YY these days? The website says women make up their own prices, and I know it's a nice club, but the last time I had fun at PHG, GT or Berns, the average was 50/30 & 75/60 (yes, back in the "good old days" I know those numbers are out of whack now, so how much should I expect so I have enough cash on hand? I mean, avg per woman? Not a fan of upsellers. I'm looking for a GFE experience with mostly oral on both sides.
If it's going to be exorbitant then I'll go to PHG and take my chances in a more controlled environment.
So I have a simple question (unfortunately I've been out of mongering proper for almost a decade). What's the costs like at YY these days? The website says women make up their own prices, and I know it's a nice club, but the last time I had fun at PHG, GT or Berns, the average was 50/30 & 75/60 (yes, back in the "good old days" I know those numbers are out of whack now, so how much should I expect so I have enough cash on hand? I mean, avg per woman? Not a fan of upsellers. I'm looking for a GFE experience with mostly oral on both sides.
If it's going to be exorbitant then I'll go to PHG and take my chances in a more controlled environment.If you think to find 50/30 at PHG, then good luck. Nevertheless, HH is 40, but you will never see 100 girls. If you want good rate 50/30, then Penelope with more girls on evening. At YY, management now ask girls to ask 70/30, but not sure including many services. HH 60 and even 40 from Sunday to Tuesday. I'm waiting a bit to see how work new business at new YY. Where GG girls are going? Some at YY, some at Bab, some at PHG. Wait and see if new YY will improve after few months and for new spa, when foods seem still good. GG closing is big loss for me, when was my best quality in FKK land, so I have now to discover new beauties.
If you think to find 50/30 at PHG, then good luck…Yeah, entirely not what I was talking about. I was saying I KNOW those prices are old and long gone. I was asking what the current rates were running.
I appreciate the quick response, but perhaps try to not be critical from the start. Not everyone had English as their native language — I entirely get that —but it was just a simple question and not something I shouldn't need to defend from the start.
Fortunately the ijsberenforum filled me in. Woofiee out.
Yeah, entirely not what I was talking about. I was saying I KNOW those prices are old and long gone. I was asking what the current rates were running.
I appreciate the quick response, but perhaps try to not be critical from the start. Not everyone had English as their native language I entirely get that but it was just a simple question and not something I shouldn't need to defend from the start.
Fortunately the ijsberenforum filled me in. Woofiee out.Can still find 50/30 and I previously listed where and even around Frankfurt and with some girls who are prettier than most at Sharks, but I doubt PHG is best place for this old rate. I think now a bit rare to still find 40/30 like used to be at Velbert, Castrop and Ratingen. Now only in AO RTC.
Can still find 50/30 and I previously listed where and even around Frankfurt and with some girls who are prettier than most at Sharks, but I doubt PHG is best place for this old rate. I think now a bit rare to still find 40/30 like used to be at Velbert, Castrop and Ratingen. Now only in AO RTC.Again, I'm not chasing a price (if that's you, knock yourself out, but that's not me.).
I was asking specifically about YY and what people experienced price-wise. Was there a lot of upselling, if so, for what. That kind of thing.
Really guys, just go to the ijsberenforum if you want current information. Built-in translators makes reading easy, and you don't need to have to explain yourself time after time.
Again, I'm not chasing a price (if that's you, knock yourself out, but that's not me.).
I was asking specifically about YY and what people experienced price-wise. Was there a lot of upselling, if so, for what. That kind of thing.
Really guys, just go to the ijsberenforum if you want current information. Built-in translators makes reading easy, and you don't need to have to explain yourself time after time.All is written below for YY, for HH and what ask now management. YY don t seem yet on past level. I will wait for improvement, for casting and SPA.
All is written below for YY, for HH and what ask now management. YY don t seem yet on past level. I will wait for improvement, for casting and SPA.Which club is HH?
Which club is HH?Not Hamburg, but happy hour in many clubs.
If you think to find 50/30 at PHG, then good luck. Nevertheless, HH is 40, but you will never see 100 girls. If you want good rate 50/30, then Penelope with more girls on evening. At YY, management now ask girls to ask 70/30, but not sure including many services. HH 60 and even 40 from Sunday to Tuesday. I'm waiting a bit to see how work new business at new YY. Where GG girls are going? Some at YY, some at Bab, some at PHG. Wait and see if new YY will improve after few months and for new spa, when foods seem still good. GG closing is big loss for me, when was my best quality in FKK land, so I have now to discover new beauties.Maybe less upselling now at YY? With FK and BBBJ for 70/30 . Will just have to find a beauty.
It's been nearly two months since this club reopened. Anyone tried it out recently and can provide an updated report?
Thinking of giving this club a visit in early 2025, so appreciate any feedback on the line up quality and service.
Thanks. Howie.
It's been nearly two months since this club reopened. Anyone tried it out recently and can provide an updated report?
Thinking of giving this club a visit in early 2025, so appreciate any feedback on the line up quality and service.
Thanks. Howie.As you can read on the Dutch fora (easy using Google Translate), the club is beautiful, but still lot of issues with upselling girls, that do not want to offer standard club service for reasonable money (Euro 70 per half hour is the MSRP). Not surprising, since many girls come from GG and SS that have the same problem (and YY is even 10 euro more expensive per half hour).
This behaviour was terrible the first weeks, but now seems to get a little better. Might be worth a try (especially if you did fell in love with the behaviour if GG rils before).
BTW: In a few weeks the jacuzzi arrives, that is lacking now.
It's been nearly two months since this club reopened. Anyone tried it out recently and can provide an updated report?
Thinking of giving this club a visit in early 2025, so appreciate any feedback on the line up quality and service.
Thanks. Howie.Seem can have 140/150/60 rooms now, at least with BBBJ and DATY. FK are the most complicated for most girls. Seem still excellent foods and good rooms with window and shower. Even HH 50, great deal for club quality.
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12-23-24, 12:46
Is it true that, like at Babylon, AO in not so difficult to find in this club?
Is it true that, like at Babylon, AO in not so difficult to find in this club?Good foods at YY for entry 50 and Kira. De. AO is in RTC for entry 20/30 .
Is it true that, like at Babylon, AO in not so difficult to find in this club?Yes, thankfully.
Is the new YY Club at the same location as it used to be before it closed? Did they move to a new location?
Is the new YY Club at the same location as it used to be before it closed? Did they move to a new location?Same location, same good foods and rooms with shower. Some HH written on website.
Same location, same good foods and rooms with shower. Some HH written on website.Okay thanks. I'm going to stop by next week.
Okay thanks. I'm going to stop by next week.Entry 50 before 1 pm from Sunday to Tuesday. Wish for not too much upselling from girls.
Okay thanks. I'm going to stop by next week.And same, or even worse service level and pricing of the girls. So be aware: if you want decent DFK, BBBJ and sex, you might spend 100 per half hour!
Before covid, I got really high level looks and GFE at YY for 50 per 30. I remember Ana. De, Fabienne, Kiti ex Bab and Bruggen, and Rami. Wish for same casting quality. Some clubs have quantity, but not meaning quality for looks. I was happy to find 1 real beauty among 100 girls at Globe Sylvester.
And same, or even worse service level and pricing of the girls. So be aware: if you want decent DFK, BBBJ and sex, you might spend 100 per half hour!Okay thanks for the heads up. I went to YY before they closed and I really enjoyed the place. Good food, beautiful wellness area and decent service from the ladies. Does anyone know if the steam room is working?
Before covid, I got really high level looks and GFE at YY for 50 per 30. I remember Ana. De, Fabienne, Kiti ex Bab and Bruggen, and Rami. Wish for same casting quality. Some clubs have quantity, but not meaning quality for looks. I was happy to find 1 real beauty among 100 girls at Globe Sylvester.Shame on me, not Ana, but Elena. De l loved so much weekly on end of 2017/ beginning of 2018 for 2/3 hours rooms with multiple rounds. Fitness 1,77 model and extreme GFE, one of my best ever for love in bed. YY had really high levels.
Okay thanks for the heads up. I went to YY before they closed and I really enjoyed the place. Good food, beautiful wellness area and decent service from the ladies. Does anyone know if the steam room is working?Sauna, but no jacuzzi yet.
Okay thanks for the heads up. I went to YY before they closed and I really enjoyed the place. Good food, beautiful wellness area and decent service from the ladies. Does anyone know if the steam room is working?Sauna is working. Jacuzzi is also active since a few days now. If you find a good girl willing to offer good service for 70 euro per half hour, you are lucky, enjoy!
Sauna is working. Jacuzzi is also active since a few days now. If you find a good girl willing to offer good service for 70 euro per half hour, you are lucky, enjoy!Hi do they have also a steam / turkish bath? I remember in the last decade they used to have an unbeliavable wellness area with an indoor pool but I hear it's no more there. What did they put instead? It's weird so few photos of the locations on the web site. Why?
Hi do they have also a steam / turkish bath? I remember in the last decade they used to have an unbeliavable wellness area with an indoor pool but I hear it's no more there. What did they put instead? It's weird so few photos of the locations on the web site. Why?I think new bar where past SPA. Now, outside sauna and swimming pool. Good when snowing at the moment in Western Europe.
I wonder if there are any germans in this club?
Sharks is too far away for regular visits and a club is only fun when you are a regular. So I might become a regular at YY which is 2 hrs closer to my home. Yet. Still a solid 1 HR 15 to drive. And I was so disappointed with GoldenGate.
I wonder if there are any germans in this club?
Sharks is too far away for regular visits and a club is only fun when you are a regular. So I might become a regular at YY which is 2 hrs closer to my home. Yet. Still a solid 1 HR 15 to drive. And I was so disappointed with GoldenGate.GG was my best quality in FKK land with Russia and Italia for 150/60 for full GFE with elegant look. Great, super sexy Valeria retired and I m happy for her if she get a good new life. At YY, sometimes Kira. De ex GG and Bruggen. Some other GG and Bruggen girls. HH and good foods.
GG was my best quality in FKK land with Russia and Italia for 150/60 for full GFE with elegant look. Great, super sexy Valeria retired and I m happy for her if she get a good new life. At YY, sometimes Kira. De ex GG and Bruggen. Some other GG and Bruggen girls. HH and good foods.Also another German than Kira. Seem improving, with still HH and 70/30 for girls. Rate is written in club, like in RTC.
GG was my best quality in FKK land with Russia and Italia for 150/60 for full GFE with elegant look. Great, super sexy Valeria retired and I m happy for her if she get a good new life. At YY, sometimes Kira. De ex GG and Bruggen. Some other GG and Bruggen girls. HH and good foods.Hi bro. What is GG and HH?
Is Kira worth going to YY for?
Hi bro. What is GG and HH?
Is Kira worth going to YY for?GG Golden Gate now closed. HH Happy hour 50 or 60 . Kira is German ex Bruggen, no silicon nor tattoes. For Germans, best is Sharks.
Some Germans and NL respecting 70/30. Only outside jacuzzi?
Seem some black girls have success at YY on NL / German border, very close to past GT.
GG was my best quality in FKK land with Russia and Italia for 150/60 for full GFE with elegant look. Great, super sexy Valeria retired and I m happy for her if she get a good new life. At YY, sometimes Kira. De ex GG and Bruggen. Some other GG and Bruggen girls. HH and good foods.Does anyone know if Paula who was at Golden Time is still working anywhere?
Does anyone know if Paula who was at Golden Time is still working anywhere?Not seen, nor Kira. De, even some girls from Bruggen and LR like Jane. Club is exceptionnal, the best one with really good foods, but casting is really not good for looks. 70/30 is written in lockers, but I don t pay for this level of looks. I was so happy to return, when I remember exceptionnal girls I enjoyed, but so disappointed by new casting. But top beauties won t stay for 70/30 .
If You are not demanding for looks, You can have sex for 70/30 . Too expensive for looks seen for me, except maybe a German ex Globe to try once? For other, club and staff girls are just great. Great foods. HH 50 or 60 before 1 pm.
Second visit on this Friday. HH 60 paid with CC. Unfortunately, I m not as lucky at YY for German targets, as I am with my Germans at Sharks. Very disappointing casting once again for me despite Rosa ex Samya who would be now one of the prettiest at Samya, and model type Selena, really pretty but I was blocked about her too big silicon, what is your problem about my boobs? She said, if You don t touch them, then no problem, but even really sexy body, but I saw only silicon and impossible to go with her. Paula. Pol was not seen for second visit, also no Kira, nor Zoe ex Globe, nor other German target, unfortunately. High quality club, but looks are not on same level.
Second visit on this Friday. HH 60 paid with CC. Unfortunately, I m not as lucky at YY for German targets, as I am with my Germans at Sharks. Very disappointing casting once again for me despite Rosa ex Samya who would be now one of the prettiest at Samya, and model type Selena, really pretty but I was blocked about her too big silicon, what is your problem about my boobs? She said, if You don t touch them, then no problem, but even really sexy body, but I saw only silicon and impossible to go with her. Paula. Pol was not seen for second visit, also no Kira, nor Zoe ex Globe, nor other German target, unfortunately. High quality club, but looks are not on same level.Does the club have professional massage as part of its wellness?
Does the club have professional massage as part of its wellness?Lulu for thaï massage.
Birthday discount rate is 35 . I preferred my free ride tour for my present, but, I will have to return now for a ex GG. Also a German ex Globe. HH 60 before 1 pm. Really good foods and beautiful club.
After disappointment at Sharks on Saturday, despite discovering rare beauty, immaculate full natural Alex, good surprise on this Sunday at YY with HH 50 before 1 pm. No salmon, but better foods than at Sharks. I was happy to see Emy ex GG, great beauty except silicon. I look forward meeting my targets. YY is very good deal.
NRW star, Violetta was seen at YY. Ex LR and GG Jane also moved there. Some Germans, NL, Polish and ex USSR.
When, despite still quite quantity, Sharks is not good around Easter, but now I saw almost full YY casting and what disappointment, and except Emy and Russia ex GG, really low level for looks, far lower than some who were at GG and really no comparison with Alex. Ro at Sharks. When NL have really beautiful women, YY is good for foods, but NL guys pay for so average looks at YY. As I told desk when I left so early at 6 pm, when I just waited for diner, but so bored disappointed, your girls are not pretty, far below other clubs, even some NL seemed upset, but your eyes see from what You are. Kira GT / GG was there. I now saw Germans and NL I wanted to see, but far below Germans at Sharks. Probably why girls accept 70/30 at YY. Or, maybe, I m too picky for YY casting. Pity, when a really beautiful club. Let s see if 6 sens really improved, when we don t all have same eyes. I m not attracted by RTC looks level.
My first time in this club. I decided to discover it as I heard it has been reopened last year (being forcibly closed for few years).
Club is located in Netherlands, close to German border. From my hotel in Dusseldorf area it took me around 1 hour by car to get there. When I arrived there were already around 60 cars in a spacious parking lot. Entry price is 70 e, I was being introduced to the club by a nice desk lady. Whole club seems very renovated, everything seems new.
Food was quite good. They have they own kitchen where cooks are preparing meals. Being there before 16 I was able to eat lunch menu (after 16 they switched all the food to a different, evening set). A porno kino in the basement. Disappointing toilets (just few of them and no ventilation, stink is unbearable). Meeting point with a bar is a big round area, with a huge artificial tree in the center. Smoking area is in a small tent outside the building, that looked a bit silly. Overall first impression of the club was good.
I estimated girls line up on that day to around 30 (Sunday). Some ladies were really pushy (like Serena and Marie, really pushing for the threesome). There was Karla from Cuba, few ladies I knew visually from other clubs (Melissa exAcaGold, Amy exGG, Jane exGG). Most of the present locals seemd reluctant to go to room. That was a bad omen for me.
After spending 3 hours roaming the club, eating and observing all the girls and their interactions, I decided to finally make a pick. I spotted a short brunette in the bar and asked for name. She was Nataly from Bulgaria, with silicon tits. I did my due diligence on a Dutch forum beforehand and remembered that she supposedly gives a good service.
After agreeing details we go to the room. Agreed kissing was really 3 touches on the closed lips, that's it! She was constantly upselling in the rooms, not even 1 min after entering a room, she says that I should extend to 1 hour (140 e)! When I denied, her mood changed to worse. She started doing oral, CBJ, despite we agreed to BBBJ! It was very weak oral, and I knew at that point that this is going to be a flop. How come reports about her were positive? I don't get it!
You know when a girl's intention is to behave in a way to not give you any pleasure, intentionally doing everything so you will not get a proper hard on? That even her handjob is terrible? And she intentionally tries to piss you off with sentences like 'Oh my, why it's not hard yet?' But still having a fake smile on her face? This is exactly that type of a girl!
Did not get full erection, after 1 min blowjob she ordered a switch to sex. Used a lot of gel, sex was a flop, as already expected. Irritated, but I was STILL trying to put on my happy face. So I asked that she at least could massage my back, maybe at least this will work and session will be saved? And then she started with more upselling "You know, if you want a massage you need to extend to 1 hour".
At this point, just 5 minutes after entering a room, I break a room, now totaly pissed off. I go immediately to desk and complain. They did not listen to my complaints at all! They even lied to me that BBBJ is not allowed here (Netherlands), so it is ok that the girl did not perform that (despite I agreed that with her beforehand)!
Discussion starts. They call in a big security guy and they basically force me to pay, whatever this prostitute wants! They explain that THEIR CLUB RULE is that after you enter a room and once doors closes, you have to pay whatever a prostitute wants! No discussion!
My diplomatic offer that I would perhaps pay just 50 e for this shitshow was not accepted. Since I did not want any trouble, being in a foreign country, and I am not a conflict guy, and the pressure they put me through, I decided to pay and get the hell out of there.
I had really big hopes for this club, in the end my disappointment was huge. I hoped that quality assurance will be high in this club, and influenced positively by locals, but this doesn't seem to be a case. Not at all!
It seems that most of the rip off girls from other clubs (like Golden Gate, PHG, Magnum, Oceans) all came here to give us an expensive shitshow. Perhaps if you come to the club to meet a one particular girl, that you already know from the past (a strategy I followed on my 3 previous visits to Golden Gate, when it was still operating) and ignore all other girls, especially the ones that make your embedded rip-off-radar beep, then your experience may be different.
This club is just another minefield, not a place to really relax. Make one mistake and you can't feel your legs anymore, LOL.
Biggest disappointment is a club staff and club management, as they clearly support all those rip-off hores and let them reign here freely. Service quality management here is less than zero (meaning that girls know very well that for giving a customer a shitty experience they will get ZERO CONSEQUENCES from the club or customer, and the beefy bouncer will simply not let client out of the club until he pays a "LADY" whatever she demands! Why give honest service in 30 minutes for 70 e, when she can give a 5 minutes of a shitshow for the same money??
They have those printouts in the club that say something like "30 minutes cost 70 e, in case this is not regarded please complain to the desk". Well, I did complain. Guess what. They did not listen to me at all, just forced me to pay a full amount for a terrible 5 min laufhaus service! Now when I think of it, those printouts are there to give you an illusion of service safety, while in practice they will be used against you, as a convenient excuse: "You have to pay a MINIMUM of 70 e, even if the session lasted just 5 minutes!
Pissed off, I evacuated myself right after that huge fail, no reason to stay any longer in this club! At exit I communicated clearly to a desk lady (the same one that introduced me to the club) that this was my first and last time in this club. I will NEVER come here again! She just shrugged it off and smiled.
I will stick to the clubs like AcaGold or Babylon. Driving here all the way to be a frickin minesweeper and having club staff laughing in my face is an experience that I will remember VERY clearly!
My first time in this club. I decided to discover it as I heard it has been reopened last year (being forcibly closed for few years).
Club is located in Netherlands, close to German border. From my hotel in Dusseldorf area it took me around 1 hour by car to get there. When I arrived there were already around 60 cars in a spacious parking lot. Entry price is 70 e, I was being introduced to the club by a nice desk lady. Whole club seems very renovated, everything seems new.
Food was quite good. They have they own kitchen where cooks are preparing meals. Being there before 16 I was able to eat lunch menu (after 16 they switched all the food to a different, evening set). A porno kino in the basement. Disappointing toilets (just few of them and no ventilation, stink is unbearable). Meeting point with a bar is a big round area, with a huge artificial tree in the center. Smoking area is in a small tent outside the building, that looked a bit silly. Overall first impression of the club was good.
I estimated girls line up on that day to around 30 (Sunday). Some ladies were really pushy (like Serena and Marie, really pushing for the threesome). There was Karla from Cuba, few ladies I knew visually from other clubs (Melissa exAcaGold, Amy exGG, Jane exGG). Most of the present locals seemd reluctant to go to room. That was a bad omen for me.
After spending 3 hours roaming the club, eating and observing all the girls and their interactions, I decided to finally make a pick. I spotted a short brunette in the bar and asked for name. She was Nataly from Bulgaria, with silicon tits. I did my due diligence on a Dutch forum beforehand and remembered that she supposedly gives a good service.
After agreeing details we go to the room. Agreed kissing was really 3 touches on the closed lips, that's it! She was constantly upselling in the rooms, not even 1 min after entering a room, she says that I should extend to 1 hour (140 e)! When I denied, her mood changed to worse. She started doing oral, CBJ, despite we agreed to BBBJ! It was very weak oral, and I knew at that point that this is going to be a flop. How come reports about her were positive? I don't get it!
You know when a girl's intention is to behave in a way to not give you any pleasure, intentionally doing everything so you will not get a proper hard on? That even her handjob is terrible? And she intentionally tries to piss you off with sentences like 'Oh my, why it's not hard yet?' But still having a fake smile on her face? This is exactly that type of a girl!
Did not get full erection, after 1 min blowjob she ordered a switch to sex. Used a lot of gel, sex was a flop, as already expected. Irritated, but I was STILL trying to put on my happy face. So I asked that she at least could massage my back, maybe at least this will work and session will be saved? And then she started with more upselling "You know, if you want a massage you need to extend to 1 hour".
At this point, just 5 minutes after entering a room, I break a room, now totaly pissed off. I go immediately to desk and complain. They did not listen to my complaints at all! They even lied to me that BBBJ is not allowed here (Netherlands), so it is ok that the girl did not perform that (despite I agreed that with her beforehand)!
Discussion starts. They call in a big security guy and they basically force me to pay, whatever this prostitute wants! They explain that THEIR CLUB RULE is that after you enter a room and once doors closes, you have to pay whatever a prostitute wants! No discussion!
My diplomatic offer that I would perhaps pay just 50 e for this shitshow was not accepted. Since I did not want any trouble, being in a foreign country, and I am not a conflict guy, and the pressure they put me through, I decided to pay and get the hell out of there.
I had really big hopes for this club, in the end my disappointment was huge. I hoped that quality assurance will be high in this club, and influenced positively by locals, but this doesn't seem to be a case. Not at all!
It seems that most of the rip off girls from other clubs (like Golden Gate, PHG, Magnum, Oceans) all came here to give us an expensive shitshow. Perhaps if you come to the club to meet a one particular girl, that you already know from the past (a strategy I followed on my 3 previous visits to Golden Gate, when it was still operating) and ignore all other girls, especially the ones that make your embedded rip-off-radar beep, then your experience may be different.
This club is just another minefield, not a place to really relax. Make one mistake and you can't feel your legs anymore, LOL.
Biggest disappointment is a club staff and club management, as they clearly support all those rip-off hores and let them reign here freely. Service quality management here is less than zero (meaning that girls know very well that for giving a customer a shitty experience they will get ZERO CONSEQUENCES from the club or customer, and the beefy bouncer will simply not let client out of the club until he pays a "LADY" whatever she demands! Why give honest service in 30 minutes for 70 e, when she can give a 5 minutes of a shitshow for the same money??
They have those printouts in the club that say something like "30 minutes cost 70 e, in case this is not regarded please complain to the desk". Well, I did complain. Guess what. They did not listen to me at all, just forced me to pay a full amount for a terrible 5 min laufhaus service! Now when I think of it, those printouts are there to give you an illusion of service safety, while in practice they will be used against you, as a convenient excuse: "You have to pay a MINIMUM of 70 e, even if the session lasted just 5 minutes!
Pissed off, I evacuated myself right after that huge fail, no reason to stay any longer in this club! At exit I communicated clearly to a desk lady (the same one that introduced me to the club) that this was my first and last time in this club. I will NEVER come here again! She just shrugged it off and smiled.
I will stick to the clubs like AcaGold or Babylon. Driving here all the way to be a frickin minesweeper and having club staff laughing in my face is an experience that I will remember VERY clearly!I think your Nataly is from Babylon. Big problem for me is looks quality. Not important for NL who prefer to drink than fuck, but no desire for me. Serena is pretty, but silicon, same like Amy. Desk didn t seem so happy when I told them I didn t find their girls are pretty, on my last, 4th and again disappointing visit. Pity when club is good.
They have those printouts in the club that say something like "30 minutes cost 70 e, in case this is not regarded please complain to the desk". Well, I did complain. Guess what. They did not listen to me at all, just forced me to pay a full amount for a terrible 5 min laufhaus service! Now when I think of it, those printouts are there to give you an illusion of service safety, while in practice they will be used against you, as a convenient excuse: "You have to pay a MINIMUM of 70 e, even if the session lasted just 5 minutes!
While I sympathize with your story. And we all hate it when a girl tries deliberately to do the minimum. We have all had crap sessions that we just had to cut short because cutting your losses is better than putting up with bad attitudes or service from some random hooker. But. The club is not wrong here. Once the door closes and service (good or bad) starts, you are on the hook for the minimum fee of 70 e. That would happen in any other club as well. Sure, you can feel cheated and in a sense you were short changed. But not by the club. You got short changed by a shitty girl and her scams. But that's a nature of a game. Think about it from the clubs perspective. They will ask the girl, did you enter a room? Did you start service? If the answer is yes, no matter if it was 2 minutes of HJ or 29 minutes of pile driving, you need to pay the 70 e. While the club might be able to afford loosing one tourist customer who may visit once a year at best, they certainly cannot afford a reputation of interfering with the girls (who are also their clients BTW) income. There are legal issues around that. Sorry to hear about your bad experience. But there is a reason the brits call it a punt. You took one for the team. Any club will tell you. If you don't like a girl, just pay the minimum and cut your losses. Maybe over the long term if the girl accumulates allot of complaints MAYBE the club with ask her to leave. But I suspect that a club that is trying to get back on its feet is in no rush to ban girls just yet.
On a side note. Let's say for example the club agreed to your 50e offer. As soon as you walked away they would pay the girl the 20e difference just to make the problem go away. Like I said. Just as you are a client of the club who wants to be feel valued. She too is a client of the club. and if 20e EUR will make both of you happy I've seen clubs absorb the cost to close a dispute amicably. Why YY didn't do that ? Well maybe if you were a regular like all the locals you saw, they probably would have.
While I sympathize with your story. And we all hate it when a girl tries deliberately to do the minimum. We have all had crap sessions that we just had to cut short because cutting your losses is better than putting up with bad attitudes or service from some random hooker. But. The club is not wrong here. Once the door closes and service (good or bad) starts, you are on the hook for the minimum fee of 70 e. That would happen in any other club as well. Sure, you can feel cheated and in a sense you were short changed. But not by the club. You got short changed by a shitty girl and her scams. But that's a nature of a game. Think about it from the clubs perspective. They will ask the girl, did you enter a room? Did you start service? If the answer is yes, no matter if it was 2 minutes of HJ or 29 minutes of pile driving, you need to pay the 70 e. While the club might be able to afford loosing one tourist customer who may visit once a year at best, they certainly cannot afford a reputation of interfering with the girls (who are also their clients BTW) income. There are legal issues around that. Sorry to hear about your bad experience. But there is a reason the brits call it a punt. You took one for the team. Any club will tell you. If you don't like a girl, just pay the minimum and cut your losses. Maybe over the long term if the girl accumulates allot of complaints MAYBE the club with ask her to leave. But I suspect that a club that is trying to get back on its feet is in no rush to ban girls just yet.
On a side note. Let's say for example the club agreed to your 50e offer. As soon as you walked away they would pay the girl the 20e difference just to make the problem go away. Like I said. Just as you are a client of the club who wants to be feel valued. She too is a client of the club. and if 20e EUR willl make both of you happy I've seen many clubs absorb the cost to close a dispute amicably. Why YY didn't do that ? Well maybe if you were a regular like all the locals in the club, they probably would have.When I m a foreigner in FKK, but not playing tourist, I also had, fortunately very few, girls I didn t feel in room and I preferred to stop, even girls proposed me then to do more for me, and I didn t pay anything. Only funny here is this girl worked at Babylon which is told as a high level service club, but mostly very average looks I can t go with, and I m a bit surprised about desk reaction. When YY reopened, girls ran into fucking clients rates, making club quite empty very fast. So, club blocked girls rate to 70/30 and on my 4 visits on week ends, I never saw a crowded club, not at all like in past YY. Desk seemed quite upset when I told them I found their girls are not pretty, they were not smiling at all, nor security guy, when I think they need more clients, even NL spend buying alcohol. Just, when a girl tries to fuck You, don t touch her, leave the room and then, You don t have to pay anything. I think, unfortunately, this girl felt she could do with a tourist. My only problem is when in Switzerland, because there, I could have big problem with polizei, only reason why I accepted to be fucked for time at Globe, when I would have refused in Germany, NL and Austria. But Globe lost a lot of money from me, since then.
Been in the game long enough and have had my share of duds. I typically just cut my losses and move on. Very rarely complain to managers or agencies. Don't want to burn any bridges in case a proper gem comes along.
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04-29-25, 08:07
Been in the game long enough and have had my share of duds. I typically just cut my losses and move on. Very rarely complain to managers or agencies. Don't want to burn any bridges in case a proper gem comes along.+1000.
Once you are in the room, it is he said / she said. Club enforcing the minimum fee is perfectly expected.
After my Sauna Club Penelope visit, I gave Yin Yang a try during the last weekend of March. My first visit to the club since its closure many years ago.
A big thumbs down for me. Could not find anyone to fuck there on that Saturday visit. Mostly MILF types and the only doable one there was a Russian in her late twenties / early thirties but she was busy. Stayed from early afternoon to 8 pm then called it a day. Best thing there was the food and coffee. Unlikely to revisit unless there is a massive turn around in the line up quality.
Howie.
While I sympathize with your story. And we all hate it when a girl tries deliberately to do the minimum. We have all had crap sessions that we just had to cut short because cutting your losses is better than putting up with bad attitudes or service from some random hooker. But. The club is not wrong here. Once the door closes and service (good or bad) starts, you are on the hook for the minimum fee of 70 e. That would happen in any other club as well. Sure, you can feel cheated and in a sense you were short changed. But not by the club. You got short changed by a shitty girl and her scams. But that's a nature of a game. Think about it from the clubs perspective. They will ask the girl, did you enter a room? Did you start service? If the answer is yes, no matter if it was 2 minutes of HJ or 29 minutes of pile driving, you need to pay the 70 e. While the club might be able to afford loosing one tourist customer who may visit once a year at best, they certainly cannot afford a reputation of interfering with the girls (who are also their clients BTW) income. There are legal issues around that. Sorry to hear about your bad experience. But there is a reason the brits call it a punt. You took one for the team. Any club will tell you. If you don't like a girl, just pay the minimum and cut your losses. Maybe over the long term if the girl accumulates allot of complaints MAYBE the club with ask her to leave. But I suspect that a club that is trying to get back on its feet is in no rush to ban girls just yet.
On a side note. Let's say for example the club agreed to your 50e offer. As soon as you walked away they would pay the girl the 20e difference just to make the problem go away. Like I said. Just as you are a client of the club who wants to be feel valued. She too is a client of the club. and if 20e EUR will make both of you happy I've seen clubs absorb the cost to close a dispute amicably. Why YY didn't do that ? Well maybe if you were a regular like all the locals you saw, they probably would have.A smart club understands they gain more by removing the underperformers. When service is good and reliable, clients spend more which attracts better girls. It is a virtuous cycle. I don't argue. I pay and make certain that the club knows the service is unacceptable. If I want to go further, I will warn other punters and cost the girl more business for the night. That is the advantage of a club.
A smart club understands they gain more by removing the underperformers. When service is good and reliable, clients spend more which attracts better girls. It is a virtuous cycle. I don't argue. I pay and make certain that the club knows the service is unacceptable. If I want to go further, I will warn other punters and cost the girl more business for the night. That is the advantage of a club.NL make business at YY which is more a beer lounge than a brothel, NL drinking more than they fuck, but blocking girls, so they don t care much about looks level or in bed, when they just feel at home at YY. Unfortunately, except very few, level of looks is very poor. I much preferred some at GG.
Unfortunately, when a really beautiful club with good foods, even spa is lower than in past YY, they should not find so many pretty, good girls accepting 70/30 rate, when many girls who fail for business in their club, prefer to move to free rates Sharks. Even at 6 sens, not too far, rates are increasing. But biggest problem for me, driving from 500 kms, is NL behavior blocking girls for the day, so, even if I find 1 attractive, big risk is she is blocked whole day. At past Bruggen or at GG, few NL already used to block girls, I remember GT busy superstar telling me: the longest booking, the less sex, but at YY, they are at home and blocking girls just drinking is their best sport, more than going to room to fuck. I don t remember this problem in past YY, but since covid, too many guys turned crazy, like Germans now paying crazy at Sharks. So, unfortunately, when I miss GG high quality I created there with my almost weekly regulars, YY should not be my place to be, when too risky with NL local sport. Not so big problem at 6 sens with HH 50 every day.
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