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My first booking at smooci went quite well. But the second one was a disaster. I booked the first one while I was staying at a hotel on suk but the second one, I booked from my condo. After making the booking, and going through the phone number verification thinking everything was going to be smooth, I received a call demanding my last name. Then the girl called the reception desk at my condo at 5 AM. In my booking, the name of my condo was there and clearly not a hotel. The girl then questioned the staff about who was staying in my unit. I received a panic call from security asking me all sorts of questions. Anyways, don't use smooci if you book to your condo. They don't know the meaning of discretion. Agencies need to be discreet when dealing with their customers. To me, if I'm going to use an agency, this is one of the most important things. After all this drama, I cancelled the booking and will never use them again. I will pay the extra 500 or 1,000 if I want to book the lady through their home agency. Escort agencies are more for the in / out traveller in Bangkok but the odd time, I will see a stunner and take the plunge.As standard practice our bookings staff wouldn't ask questions as to who was staying at a condo, the strict practice of confirming a location is to ask to speak to Mr XXXXX or ask to be put through to Mr XXXXXX, and if the reception didn't recognise this name they would apologise and end the call politely, and then contact the client via mobile or email to check the accommodation details once again. The bookings team are very good at sticking to script when speaking to receptions. In the case of private residences and condos the bookings team are trained to actually avoid making contact when possible.
As this was not your first booking I suspect that the bookings team saw the SMS verification as enough and confirmed your booking, passing the info on to the agency, and that the agency or companion decided to call and make contact. If you can email us direct and let us know the details we can look into it and speak to whomever contacted you so it won't happen again.
You can email us direct.
Member #4591
06-05-17, 18:06
As standard practice our bookings staff wouldn't ask questions as to who was staying at a condo, the strict practice of confirming a location is to ask to speak to Mr XXXXX or ask to be put through to Mr XXXXXX, and if the reception didn't recognise this name they would apologise and end the call politely, and then contact the client via mobile or email to check the accommodation details once again. The bookings team are very good at sticking to script when speaking to receptions. In the case of private residences and condos the bookings team are trained to actually avoid making contact when possible.
As this was not your first booking I suspect that the bookings team saw the SMS verification as enough and confirmed your booking, passing the info on to the agency, and that the agency or companion decided to call and make contact. If you can email us direct and let us know the details we can look into it and speak to whomever contacted you so it won't happen again.
You can email us direct.I beg to differ. The girl I was referring to was your staff memeber.
I beg to differ. The girl I was referring to was your staff memeber.It's not policy for our booking staff to ask who is staying at a room, their script is to give the room number and use the given name.
Can you contact us to let us know the details and we can look in to it, or at least let us know why you are sure it was our booking staff and not the agency. Without knowing more we cannot act.
I beg to differ. The girl I was referring to was your staff memeber.I've checked bookings for the last 3 days and spoke briefly to a member of bookings staff but I can't workout which booking this was.
Again, I suspect it was the agency who did this as the staff we've had on for the last 7 shifts have all been with us for some time. But if it was done by a member of our staff then we wholeheartedly apologise and we can speak to that member of staff and find out why they did it and make sure they don't do it again. Or if it was the agency we can speak to them and warn them about this and get them inline with how we contact clients.
Again, we really need to know more details to look into this so we can make sure it doesn't happen again. You can email us, and I will look into it straight away.
Member #4591
06-06-17, 07:48
I've checked bookings for the last 3 days and spoke briefly to a member of bookings staff but I can't workout which booking this was.
Again, I suspect it was the agency who did this as the staff we've had on for the last 7 shifts have all been with us for some time. But if it was done by a member of our staff then we wholeheartedly apologise and we can speak to that member of staff and find out why they did it and make sure they don't do it again. Or if it was the agency we can speak to them and warn them about this and get them inline with how we contact clients.
Again, we really need to know more details to look into this so we can make sure it doesn't happen again. You can email us, and I will look into it straight away.It was more than 3 days ago. Unfortunately, the damage is done now and there is nothing you can do to fix it. You need to understand about customer discretion if you are going to do this business. These are things you should have discussed with the agencies you have decided to cooperate with before going into business with them. If it was your staff, they should know better. If it was a staff memeber from the girl's agency, why are they double confirming or tripple confirming appointments? My understanding is that is what they pay you to do. If they wanted to do it themselves, they would not cooperate with you. I hope you see my points in all this. I'm sticking to my views on not using your service anymore and would not recommend it to anyone if they want to book to their personal residence or condo.
Hi,
I have made few bookings through Smooci. Some of them have been very good. I really enjoyed the last booking. I will leave a review in one or two days.
I am just concerned if our names show up in the rating / reviews. I tried to check it but I have to be a premium member to access that. I will be leaving Thailand soon, so It does not make sense for me to pay for something I am not using. I may book one more girl before I leave though. Could you please clarify if our names are going to be shown when we rate or comment?
So looks like Premium is released, but it's declining all my cards. Why?
And why no PayPal support?
Member #4591
06-06-17, 18:28
Hi,
I have made few bookings through Smooci. Some of them have been very good. I really enjoyed the last booking. I will leave a review in one or two days.
I am just concerned if our names show up in the rating / reviews. I tried to check it but I have to be a premium member to access that. I will be leaving Thailand soon, so It does not make sense for me to pay for something I am not using. I may book one more girl before I leave though. Could you please clarify if our names are going to be shown when we rate or comment? Send a PM to smooci on ISG. You have over 25 posts so you should be a senior member now with the ability to PM on ISG. What's stopping you from emailing smooci directly to ask them this question?
A premium membership on ISG allows you to access the photo gallery, send PM's to other members, and to have a private forum viewing experience without the ads and sexy photos. If you plan to travel anytime in the future to any country in the world, ISG will have memebers in that country that can help you by PM to organize mongering in that city and give yiu advice on pricing, hotels, and locations.
I gather the girls reviews can be seen somewhere. Where?
I no longer see any Smooci Star Rating Guidelines present on the website. Not even safely hidden away and virtually unseen and unknown to most customers in the "blog" option as they were before. Does that mean the one truly useful and unique element Smooci brought to the scene, the ability for customers to report on whether or not the girl actually provided a requested service listed on her profile, has been dropped from the program? Yes, I realize premium paying customers will now get to read what Joe Shmo had to say about whether or not he felt a stirring in his loins for whatever goofy reason with this or that escort. But will ordinary browsing and shopping customers still have no idea what a 4. 5 Star Rating vs a 2. 5 Star Rating is based on other than possibly the girl's looks?
Too bad. That was such a beautifully simple and useful idea for the sake of the P4 P industry. Now the low demand, roll over customers will rule the day by making a strong and heartfelt case for why Brunhilde really deserved a 5 Star Rating for her winning smile and charming personality or whatever even though she made a face and changed the subject when he told her he was ready to experience the BBBJ+CIM she listed on her profile. LOL. Trust me, that will surely happen as night follows day. It happens on these boards. And we're probably higher demand customers than most of the guys who show up in Thailand and never read sites like these.
If that is true, then the Star Ratings can no longer be counted on to reasonably inform a potential customer whether or not the girl is likely to provide any service she lists on her profile. They are now officially pointless and meaningless.
MaximumDry
06-06-17, 20:48
Had peach from Bangkok escort agency the other day. Booked for 2 hours via smooci and everything was fine. Arrived on time. It was listed on the profile that she's 26 years old. But when she arrived I was in for quite a bit of shock. Not only will she looked A lot older than the profile pictures, but the fact that she's a smoker and had the breath right from the beginning made me slightly disappointed. She's slim and However she was talkative and at least pretended that she was interested in whatever the stuff I was saying. Said she's already showered and didn't want to do again. She did a nice BBBJ for about full 5-7 minutes, but since I can't just cum with that we proceeded with the deed. She uses coconut oil and lubs so nothing wrong with them but her vagina was not that tight. After round 1 we chatted for a while and while doing so she was watching the timer, and so she mentioned that I had 30 minutes left, and if I got to have round 2 I better hurry up. I wasn't really feeling like it but went ahead. At least she gave a good finish by taking CIM which BTW she didn't swallow. Showered and left.
Service 7.5/10.
Looks 6/10.
Damage 4.5 k.
Repeat. No.
Send a PM to smooci on ISG. You have over 25 posts so you should be a senior member now with the ability to PM on ISG. What's stopping you from emailing smooci directly to ask them this question?
A premium membership on ISG allows you to access the photo gallery, send PM's to other members, and to have a private forum viewing experience without the ads and sexy photos. If you plan to travel anytime in the future to any country in the world, ISG will have memebers in that country that can help you by PM to organize mongering in that city and give yiu advice on pricing, hotels, and locations.I sent an email before posting here, no reply yet. I hope they will reply in 24 hours. I can send PM to others, but not to members like Smooci, maybe its because they are advertisers.
I have used this forum and I had some good time. Late when I get back to Europe, I will be posting more reviews.
Meanwhile, I hope Smooci can address my concerns.
Sir,
I used Smooci to book two hours with Milk and it was an excellent experience both with Smocci and the girl.
I would make two suggestions for your service. First, I believe that if a member takes the time to review his date, then he should be given a certain amount of review access for free. A week or two is probably adequate. This would encourage members to review all experiences which benefits us as a group. And it seems fair. If I have taken the time to write a review on one escort, why should I have to guess about the services of another? This is a model that has been used quite successfully on other sites.
The one down side is that it will probably require a username system as most of us don't want our real names associated with this.
Second, please encourage your agencies to start posting doubles. While knowing that a girl is bi or couple friendly is great, it would be of great service to have doubles teams readily available. That way, we don't have to go through 70 profiles trying to put together a threesome.
Thank you for taking the time to consider these ideas.
Sir,
I used Smooci to book two hours with Milk and it was an excellent experience both with Smocci and the girl.
I would make two suggestions for your service. First, I believe that if a member takes the time to review his date, then he should be given a certain amount of review access for free. A week or two is probably adequate. This would encourage members to review all experiences which benefits us as a group. And it seems fair. If I have taken the time to write a review on one escort, why should I have to guess about the services of another? This is a model that has been used quite successfully on other sites.
I agree totally that if a website solicits reviews and ratings they should allow access to reviews and ratings by those who spend the time to post same. Failing to do so serves as a disincentive to posting ratings and reviews except by those who pay for the premium option. Indeed, I would feel like a chump if I were to post ratings and reviews thereby helping the website while not having access to other customers' ratings and reviews.
Not only will she looked A lot older than the profile pictures, but the fact that she's a smoker and had the breath right from the beginning made me slightly disappointed.
Repeat. No.I never take a girl, if she smoke. It is a major turn off for me. Www.Smooci.com should tell us, if the escort smoke or not.
It was more than 3 days ago. Unfortunately, the damage is done now and there is nothing you can do to fix it. You need to understand about customer discretion if you are going to do this business. These are things you should have discussed with the agencies you have decided to cooperate with before going into business with them. If it was your staff, they should know better. If it was a staff memeber from the girl's agency, why are they double confirming or tripple confirming appointments? My understanding is that is what they pay you to do. If they wanted to do it themselves, they would not cooperate with you. I hope you see my points in all this. I'm sticking to my views on not using your service anymore and would not recommend it to anyone if they want to book to their personal residence or condo.I think there's a misunderstanding about how our bookings team works and how we interact with the agencies.
The agencies don't pay us anything, nor do the companions, and we don't earn any money from the bookings. The way we monetize is through our premium memberships which has just launched, and this is our only income (I will post more about this later). We offered some customer service support to the agencies for an initial period, for free, in order to get the agencies onboard to help us launch. One of the agencies no longer uses our bookings team as they have a large team themselves, and we are fazing out the call verification out with the other agencies, and we are already relying on the SMS verification where we can, in order to avoid the calls.
With the launch of the premium accounts and the upcoming companion's app, call verification will be fazed out completely from within our team.
We do have a set of standards, along with a warning and banning system, which we hold all companions and agencies to. So in cases such as yours we rely on your feedback in order to act accordingly.
We aren't able to receive / reply to PMs on here, not sure why.
Hi,
I have made few bookings through Smooci. Some of them have been very good. I really enjoyed the last booking. I will leave a review in one or two days.
I am just concerned if our names show up in the rating / reviews. I tried to check it but I have to be a premium member to access that. I will be leaving Thailand soon, so It does not make sense for me to pay for something I am not using. I may book one more girl before I leave though. Could you please clarify if our names are going to be shown when we rate or comment?All reviews and ratings will be totally anonymous. We will not include any details such as names, locations, or exact times / dates.
So looks like Premium is released, but it's declining all my cards. Why?
And why no PayPal support?We rolled the premiums out yesterday and we have had no major tech issues. The only issue we've had is with some USA Based payments, as we need to add 'state' in the form. Our tech team is working on this as I speak.
We aren't able to offer Paypal yet, but we will be looking to add paypal and bitcoin eventually.
I no longer see any Smooci Star Rating Guidelines present on the website. Not even safely hidden away and virtually unseen and unknown to most customers in the "blog" option as they were before. Does that mean the one truly useful and unique element Smooci brought to the scene, the ability for customers to report on whether or not the girl actually provided a requested service listed on her profile, has been dropped from the program? Yes, I realize premium paying customers will now get to read what Joe Shmo had to say about whether or not he felt a stirring in his loins for whatever goofy reason with this or that escort. But will ordinary browsing and shopping customers still have no idea what a 4. 5 Star Rating vs a 2. 5 Star Rating is based on other than possibly the girl's looks?
Too bad. That was such a beautifully simple and useful idea for the sake of the P4 P industry. Now the low demand, roll over customers will rule the day by making a strong and heartfelt case for why Brunhilde really deserved a 5 Star Rating for her winning smile and charming personality or whatever even though she made a face and changed the subject when he told her he was ready to experience the BBBJ+CIM she listed on her profile. LOL. Trust me, that will surely happen as night follows day. It happens on these boards. And we're probably higher demand customers than most of the guys who show up in Thailand and never read sites like these.
If that is true, then the Star Ratings can no longer be counted on to reasonably inform a potential customer whether or not the girl is likely to provide any service she lists on her profile. They are now officially pointless and meaningless.The star ratings guide is something we are still discussing within the team. We can't add it on the review page as it is too much info and most reviews are done over mobile. Our major challenge is getting more people to add reviews, as currently it only sits at 45% of customers who leave reviews, and so far the more info we've added the less reviews we've received, and vice versa, by simplifying the review page and giving less info we've managed to increase the number of reviews and comments we get.
Previously we use a link to the guide but to be honest such a small number of users were clicking on the link it wasn't effective.
We do strongly believe the ratings are a good indication of a companion is in terms of overall service, and this is now complimented by the photo verification and comments. It's also helping us to filter out the poor performing companions; as well as suspending and banning low rated companions, we are now limiting the number of bookings a mid-rated companion can accept in order to further encourage higher service levels.
We will keep looking at ways to improve the way we rate and review.
Had peach from Bangkok escort agency the other day. Booked for 2 hours via smooci and everything was fine. Arrived on time. It was listed on the profile that she's 26 years old. But when she arrived I was in for quite a bit of shock. Not only will she looked A lot older than the profile pictures, but the fact that she's a smoker and had the breath right from the beginning made me slightly disappointed. She's slim and However she was talkative and at least pretended that she was interested in whatever the stuff I was saying. Said she's already showered and didn't want to do again. She did a nice BBBJ for about full 5-7 minutes, but since I can't just cum with that we proceeded with the deed. She uses coconut oil and lubs so nothing wrong with them but her vagina was not that tight. After round 1 we chatted for a while and while doing so she was watching the timer, and so she mentioned that I had 30 minutes left, and if I got to have round 2 I better hurry up. I wasn't really feeling like it but went ahead. At least she gave a good finish by taking CIM which BTW she didn't swallow. Showered and left.
Service 7.5/10.
Looks 6/10.
Damage 4.5 k.
Repeat. No.By looking at her pictures you could guess that she is probably older than what is advertised. It's probably the same with all the girls that have professional (photoshopped) pictures on there profile unless they also share some selfies.
Anyway thanks for the report, I can realise that a smoker's breath would be a big turn off for me too.
Sir,
I used Smooci to book two hours with Milk and it was an excellent experience both with Smocci and the girl.Would you mind sharing some details about her? Does she look very young? Is she attractive in real life? How was she dressed? Is she shy? And what kind of service did she provide (speak English, clock watcher, complain about 2 shots, BBBJ, tight pussy, trimmed, baby damage?
Thanks in advance, I ask all these because I find her quite attractive.
Would you mind sharing some details about her? Does she look very young? Is she attractive in real life? How was she dressed? Is she shy? And what kind of service did she provide (speak English, clock watcher, complain about 2 shots, BBBJ, tight pussy, trimmed, baby damage?
Thanks in advance, I ask all these because I find her quite attractive.Problem with Milk is that she's fully booked and works 24/7 7 days a week. So you can imagine she's sore and tired AF. I guess she / her agency thinks it's OK just cause she's young, but she can't keep going like that forever.
So you can imagine it affects the service. Had her fall asleep on me, including the snoring, and I thought she was bullshitting cause who can fall asleep just like that in under 30 seconds.
Poor girl.
Problem with Milk is that she's fully booked and works 24/7 7 days a week.
Poor girl.Thanks for the information. I didn't know she is so popular as I regularly see her available on smooci.
The star ratings guide is something we are still discussing within the team. We can't add it on the review page as it is too much info and most reviews are done over mobile. Our major challenge is getting more people to add reviews, as currently it only sits at 45% of customers who leave reviews, and so far the more info we've added the less reviews we've received, and vice versa, by simplifying the review page and giving less info we've managed to increase the number of reviews and comments we get.
Previously we use a link to the guide but to be honest such a small number of users were clicking on the link it wasn't effective.
We do strongly believe the ratings are a good indication of a companion is in terms of overall service, and this is now complimented by the photo verification and comments. It's also helping us to filter out the poor performing companions; as well as suspending and banning low rated companions, we are now limiting the number of bookings a mid-rated companion can accept in order to further encourage higher service levels.
We will keep looking at ways to improve the way we rate and review.Well, I was very enthusiastic about your Star Ratings because, when I dug deep into your webpage's "blog" and found the Guidelines, I saw they were heavily tilted toward assessing the girls' Truth in Advertising re their photos and their listed services. That was a unique feature that Smooci offered. But I seemed to be a rare exception in giving a shit about the service element of it while most guys were really concerned about whether the photos were accurate. Moreover, several here and elsewhere actually pushed back on the idea that whether or not the girl actually provided a service listed on her profile was as important as how the customer "felt" about her in the most subjective way. So be it.
IMO, the part about whether the girl who shows up looks good enough (or similar enough to her photos) to engage in a rewarding sexual experience is the easiest to field on the spot without devoting one more minute of your time or a single baht to the process; if she isn't nearly as attractive as her photos, you just thank her for her time and send her on her way with perhaps 10 seconds of discomfort shared between the two of you. Ok, maybe you give her 100 baht for taxi fare. By contrast, if the girl says she will deliver a BBBJ+CIM she lists on her profile but instead gives you a classic cum dodge head turn at the critical moment, you have just spent 3000 baht for a hand job with a little oral foreplay thrown in and it will be very uncomfortable to argue out of paying up in full if you haven't already done so by then anyway.
But, since very few guys bothered to click on the guidelines before booking (probably never knew they existed) and very few would know that not submitting a Star Rating at all was not the lowest rating one could submit when generally disappointed but a 1 Star Rating was, then I suppose that means escort customers by and large don't really care whether or not the girls deliver fully on their listed services. They seem to be much more concerned about whether or not she looks like her photos and how they might "feel" when they swing open the door on arrival and not the least bit concerned about whether she will or won't deliver as advertised. lol. ok.
That being the case, I would say don't spend another minute in meetings discussing how to get customers to rate the girls on that apparently insignificant feature of the escort experience. Why bother? Customers clearly don't care about those things. Just work on the photo verification part and make sure that is in tip top shape instead.
Thanks for the information. I didn't know she is so popular as I regularly see her available on smooci.Yeah, a lot of the girls are not fully back-to-back booked on Smooci these days (other than weekends) as it's low season. In March they'd be back-to-back. I do believe Milk in particular does off-line side-ST as well though, cause I see her around Soi Cowboy all the time, and she was still really sleepy when I booked her recently.
Crocodilexp
06-13-17, 14:07
But, since very few guys bothered to click on the guidelines before booking (probably never knew they existed)People virtually never read the manual, even for complex products, let alone simple stuff like providing a star rating for an escort. This is the case with every review site anywhere. Countless UX professionals tried, and so far nobody came up with a solution, so Smocci team won't solve it either.
No matter what Smocci does, the star rating will ALWAYS only be an indication of subjective overall impression about the girl, nothing more. In addition to the star rating, maybe they could ask specific questions like "Did the girl provide anal?" (yes / refused / not requested), but even that might not help much in practice.
When it comes to photo accuracy, the only real way is to verify photos by looking at an ID. Having the girl's ID on file is also a good idea for safety of the customers. Even the "is the photo accurate" question is highly subjective, some users will have more leeway (especially if the girl was nice) than others.
All reviews and ratings will be totally anonymous. We will not include any details such as names, locations, or exact times / dates.Thanks for clearing that up.
People virtually never read the manual, even for complex products, let alone simple stuff like providing a star rating for an escort. This is the case with every review site anywhere. Countless UX professionals tried, and so far nobody came up with a solution, so Smocci team won't solve it either.
No matter what Smocci does, the star rating will ALWAYS only be an indication of subjective overall impression about the girl, nothing more. In addition to the star rating, maybe they could ask specific questions like "Did the girl provide anal?" (yes / refused / not requested), but even that might not help much in practice.Their 5 Star Ratings Guidelines list wasn't that big, wordy or lengthy. It would have been fine and blissfully easy for Smooci to have placed that list on a page right after their "Request a Date" page and right on the same email page asking customers to submit a Star Rating afterwards. I find Smooci's excuse for not trying that but instead claiming that it is all too complicated and then leaving those brief guidelines hidden deeply in a "blog" option nobody would have the slightest idea contained anything pertinent to the issue to be bizarre.
Would doing that have guaranteed that 100% of the customers would have read them and would have had a 100% understanding that those rather objective (and properly so) Star Rating Guidelines were very much about the accuracy of the photos and the accuracy of the claimed services and then 100% of them would have awarded Stars accordingly? No. But it sure would have been better than dropping the ball entirely on the whole unique concept of it by stubbornly keeping those Guidelines hidden in their "blog" and therefore kept a big secret from virtually everyone.
People virtually never read the manual, even for complex products, let alone simple stuff like providing a star rating for an escort. This is the case with every review site anywhere. Countless UX professionals tried, and so far nobody came up with a solution, so Smocci team won't solve it either.
No matter what Smocci does, the star rating will ALWAYS only be an indication of subjective overall impression about the girl, nothing more. In addition to the star rating, maybe they could ask specific questions like "Did the girl provide anal?" (yes / refused / not requested), but even that might not help much in practice.
When it comes to photo accuracy, the only real way is to verify photos by looking at an ID. Having the girl's ID on file is also a good idea for safety of the customers. Even the "is the photo accurate" question is highly subjective, some users will have more leeway (especially if the girl was nice) than others.Iphone will have its haters.
Samsung will have it haters.
Huawei only have that little loyalty.
Nothing is or can be perfect.
A product can be perfect to one but still short of too many for another.
Human's nature is to find fault on each other but fail to see what the mirror shows.
We are happy to announce the launch of our Premium Member's service.
Our Premium Members service is designed to take your Escort booking and companion experience to a whole new level, giving you even more control and information.
Smooci Premium Members get:
- Access to all unedited comments on companions profiles.
- Ability to book up to 24 hours in advance.
- Ability to see user verified photos (no more photoshopping issues).
- Ability to make 1 hour bookings and use of GPS tracking on all bookings.
We have created membership options ranging from 3 days to 1 year and all billing is discreet and non-recurring (meaning no repeat billing on any payments).
Please also note that if you don't wish to become a premium member you can still use Smooci for free, able to search all our online companions and make instant bookings direct to your door.
For more information, or to become a premium member, please go to https://smooci.com/premium.
We are happy to announce the launch of our Premium Member's service.
Our Premium Members service is designed to take your Escort booking and companion experience to a whole new level, giving you even more control and information.
Smooci Premium Members get: https://smooci.com/premium.A call from their bank!
Just tried to checking out a 3 day trial before I come over in 3 weeks time.
And my CC provider Fraud Dept blocked my card because of concerns about the company being based on Guyana!
Ooops.
What can you say smooci.com?
A call from their bank!
Just tried to checking out a 3 day trial before I come over in 3 weeks time.
And my CC provider Fraud Dept blocked my card because of concerns about the company being based on Guyana!
Ooops.
What can you say smooci.com?I don't think it matters where the company is based as long as they don't wrongly charge our C. C and out of habit, I monitor my online credit statement on a daily basis and I have no concerns whatsoever regarding my transaction with smooci. I paid $24.99 and they took $24.99 for 1 month membership.
Your bank may not like the fact that a transaction is being processed from an offshore account so the transaction does not go through.
There is probably hundreds of reasons, like many other companies why they choose to be based where they are based: Legal issue, taxes and etc etc.
Smooci, care to elaborate more and confirm?
I agree. I got my one month membership a few days ago. My credit card charged just the amount USD 24.99 as mentioned.
Is the premium option worth it? Yes. For one you can read reviews and more importantly see how many people have reviewed each escort. So girls with 30+ and high rankings will be on my list for sure.
Plus I can also check and book 24 hours in advance which is good for the girls who are in high demand such as Saya or Natt.
Will be in BKK next week and will use smooci and give a report.
P. S 6 months I used Smooci for Emma and was more than happy with the whole process.
I don't think it matters where the company is based as long as they don't wrongly charge our C. C and out of habit, I monitor my online credit statement on a daily basis and I have no concerns whatsoever regarding my transaction with smooci. I paid $24.99 and they took $24.99 for 1 month membership.
Your bank may not like the fact that a transaction is being processed from an offshore account so the transaction does not go through.
There is probably hundreds of reasons, like many other companies why they choose to be based where they are based: Legal issue, taxes and etc etc.
Smooci, care to elaborate more and confirm?
Is the premium option worth it? Yes. For one you can read reviews and more importantly see how many people have reviewed each escort. So girls with 30+ and high rankings will be on my list for sure."I don't think it matters where the company is based as long as they don't wrongly charge our see. See and out of habit, I monitor my online credit statement on a daily basis and I have no concerns whatsoever regarding my transaction with smooci. I paid $24.99 and they took $24.99 for 1 month membership."
Great to hear, just wanted to allay my fears, make sure t was a one off problem.
Now will retry trying out the Premium for three days.
Cheers.
A call from their bank!
Just tried to checking out a 3 day trial before I come over in 3 weeks time.
And my CC provider Fraud Dept blocked my card because of concerns about the company being based on Guyana!
Ooops.
What can you say smooci.com?Just to clear up any confusions, we are based within the E.U.
We use a Hong Kong based pay merchant to process payments, but we are classed as a high risk business (as are all adult entertainment and Escort related businesses) and for legal reasons they are using their secondary banks which are in areas we contractually cannot launch in.
We work on non-reccurring billing so we will never repeat bill you to extend your membership unless you physically go to our site and pay again. We have just added further code to prevent the possibility of double / duplicate payments when tapping payment buttons more than once or refreshing the payment page.
The pay merchant we use is well established and a leader in the industry. They processes payments for a lot of the big adult and dating sites.
I have RTFF and I wonder if we could have more reports on the ladies that has been seen via Smooci? I am heading out to BKK in a few months time and I would appreciate any info about ease of getting the lady to your hotel room (I. E was she on time etc?) as well as the quality of the service.
/ Kirsia.
I have RTFF and I wonder if we could have more reports on the ladies that has been seen via Smooci? I am heading out to BKK in a few months time and I would appreciate any info about ease of getting the lady to your hotel room (I. E was she on time etc?) as well as the quality of the service./ Kirsia.Use the Premium service on the website. Shitloads of info.
WarmStone25
06-21-17, 11:20
I have RTFF and I wonder if we could have more reports on the ladies that has been seen via Smooci? I am heading out to BKK in a few months time and I would appreciate any info about ease of getting the lady to your hotel room (I. E was she on time etc?) as well as the quality of the service.
/ Kirsia.That is what Smooci is about anyway. Try the Premium membership and report back on how it was using the payment service.
In preparation for my 'holiday' in Bangkok coming up in three weeks I decided to try Smooci Premium for three days ($US9. 99) to see what was what.
Thought I'd share my findings;.
Firstly after getting past my bank's security concerns about who was getting my Credit Card details and avoiding telling the lovely lady from the security team that Smooci was a website to select hookers from at the best possible price, I had started checking it out.
Yes, you can book up to 24 hours in advance, actually more like 23, and also for one hour.
Photos have a 'verified' tag, not all are verified.
Big difference is the reviews, they sit as an option just below the star spot and open up as part of the existing 'Escort' page below Service.
The number of reviews is visible before you click on it.
The reviews are dated by month and year but not day of the month, the length of the booking and the individual star rating.
Escorts without an overall star rating still have reviews listed up until they hit the minimum required for overall star rating.
Quality of reviews are varied based on the author, they range from one or two words to quite extensive responses.
Most bookings are for two hours.
Many negative comments on;
Age discrepancies (there are a lot).
Whether the photos are realistic or / and old.
Weight gain.
Skin tone.
Escort demeanor.
Services provided (and not provided even when listed).
Drunkenness.
Being late, leaving early.
Here are examples;.
"Now that was the worst experience I've ever had that I couldn't cum. She was on drugs or something & so lazy she didn't make any effort to fuck & was not all there. I hired her for 2 hours based on her pictures but what a bloody mistake & such a lie! I refused to pay her for 2 hours so only payed her for 1 instead as that was all I could take. She should not be available on this site! Get her off this site! My experiences with Smooci has been great up until now! Hands down the worst sex in my life!! So disgusted with her behaviour & lack of enthusiasm. If zero was available, I would have definitely ticked that!
"She arrived 45 minutes late with no tracking. She was drunk and fell asleep after 40 minutes. ".
"Little bit too late 15-20 min playing a lot with mobile phone, chat, call in Website says XXkg but have min 60 kg no Service like Blowjob just lay down and ask for condom".
But in addition to the 'negatives' there is also the positiveness;.
Amazing.
Sweet.
Great BBBJ.
Good English.
Great services.
Slim and firm body.
Really nice girl!
Here is an example;.
"5 star service. She arrived bang on time Beautiful looking girl with a lovely personality. Treat her with respect and you get girlfriend experience you are looking for. Would not think twice about booking XXXX again. Money well spent.
"XXXX is a sweet girl. The services were great and done with a smile. A real GFE. I really enjoyed spending the time with her. Will definitely book again if I have a chance."
"XXX is actually more attractive than the pictures reflect! She was a great companion, is very sweet, and is a wonderful lover."
Only data not available is; how many 'customers' have bothered to comment and how many haven't, but the number of reviews is useful to see popularity, though of course some 'ladies' have been on the site for longer than others, a number have 25+ reviews, say the average is about 15.
Overall: Bloody useful, I had my eye on four or five girls beforehand and now after using the site have created a list of ten, including four of my originals (I dropped one after reading the reviews), doubt if I'll get through them all, but not all will be live on smooci while I'm in Bangkok.
Like a kid in a candy store!
In preparation for my 'holiday' in Bangkok coming up in three weeks I decided to try Smooci Premium for three days ($US9. 99) to see what was what.
Thought I'd share my findings;.
-snip-
Here are examples;.
"Now that was the worst experience I've ever had that I couldn't cum. She was on drugs or something & so lazy she didn't make any effort to fuck & was not all there. I hired her for 2 hours based on her pictures but what a bloody mistake & such a lie! I refused to pay her for 2 hours so only payed her for 1 instead as that was all I could take. She should not be available on this site! Get her off this site! My experiences with Smooci has been great up until now! Hands down the worst sex in my life!! So disgusted with her behaviour & lack of enthusiasm. If zero was available, I would have definitely ticked that!
-snip-Thanks for reporting what you found.
LOL. That reviewer is apparently another customer who had no idea a Smooci Star Guidelines exists or has not bothered to search deeply into their website to find where it is hidden. If he had, he would have seen with the very first entry that a one Star Rating IS the lowest Rating he could have given that girl. I wonder if he didn't submit a rating at all on the mistaken belief that by doing so he was making his disappointment with her known and negatively influencing her overall rating. Instead, his not submitting a rating at all, if that is what he did (does it show on his review?), did nothing to downgrade her overall rating and instead gave greater strength and influence to any higher ratings she might have received.
Thanks for reporting what you found.
LOL. That reviewer is apparently another customer who had no idea a Smooci Star Guidelines exists or has not bothered to search deeply into their website to find where it is hidden. If he had, he would have seen with the very first entry that a one Star Rating IS the lowest Rating he could have given that girl. I wonder if he didn't submit a rating at all on the mistaken belief that by doing so he was making his disappointment with her known and negatively influencing her overall rating. Instead, his not submitting a rating at all, if that is what he did (does it show on his review?), did nothing to downgrade her overall rating and instead gave greater strength and influence to any higher ratings she might have received.You seems to be a massive fan / critique of the review system. Yet you don't know that it is not possible to submit a review without giving a rating of 1-5.
Have you used smooci?
I now even see less of a reason to have the ratings guideline on the site at all. It is not required, written reviews are the best.
Thanks for reporting what you found.
LOL. That reviewer is apparently another customer who had no idea a Smooci Star Guidelines exists or has not bothered to search deeply into their website to find where it is hidden. If he had, he would have seen with the very first entry that a one Star Rating IS the lowest Rating he could have given that girl. I wonder if he didn't submit a rating at all on the mistaken belief that by doing so he was making his disappointment with her known and negatively influencing her overall rating. Instead, his not submitting a rating at all, if that is what he did (does it show on his review?), did nothing to downgrade her overall rating and instead gave greater strength and influence to any higher ratings she might have received.I have searched for this comment and the user did give a 1 star vote.
In this comment the user is simply trying to convey how bad his experience was by saying he would have voted lower if it was phtsically possible.
I enjoyed using smooci in my early June visit to Bangkok and booked 5 girls with varying experience but generally I was happy and impressed. Now I intend to visit Bangkok again but only for transit purpose and will be staying for a night. I wonder if it's possible to just give my name and hotel name without actually giving the room number when booking because I will not get my room number until I check in with the reception.
I'd appreciate if any of you could share your experience on similar occasion.
One more thing, the smooci experience would be more pleasant if we could choose number of shots especially when we're booking for longer than 2-hour.
Thank you.
I enjoyed using smooci in my early June visit to Bangkok and booked 5 girls with varying experience but generally I was happy and impressed. Now I intend to visit Bangkok again but only for transit purpose and will be staying for a night. I wonder if it's possible to just give my name and hotel name without actually giving the room number when booking because I will not get my room number until I check in with the reception.
I'd appreciate if any of you could share your experience on similar occasion.
One more thing, the smooci experience would be more pleasant if we could choose number of shots especially when we're booking for longer than 2-hour.
Thank you.We don't have a strict policy on this, as it would depend on which agency you are booking with through Smooci and their personal policy.
When you make the booking type 'not known yet' in the room number, and in the special request section, explain the situation.
The booking will then be sent to the agency with all the details and it will be up to them to accept or reject the booking, but I think most agencies would accept the booking.
You seems to be a massive fan / critique of the review system. Yet you don't know that it is not possible to submit a review without giving a rating of 1-5.
Have you used smooci?
I now even see less of a reason to have the ratings guideline on the site at all. It is not required, written reviews are the best.The essay review option is new and available only to the premium / pay subscribers and so I did not know you can't submit an essay without rating first. I went through the Smooci booking and rating process with two customers, but only as a passive observer to see whether or not the rating system would have been known to them and therefore reasonably relied upon to represent whether or not the girls did or did not perform the requested services listed on their profiles. My observations told me they do not because neither of those guys had a clue there were guidelines on Smooci's site that rather nicely drew a clear distinction between say, a 2 vs a 4 star rating based on whether or not the girl delivered those services.
Based on the examples I have now seen of the essays, I have no reason to assume the customers submitting a rating, even though it is required, have seen the guidelines any more than the two guys I observed did either. Premium / pay or not, I seriously doubt more than a tiny fraction of Smooci users have found, seen and read those guidelines in order to have a hope that the girls' ratings might even vaguely relate to whether or not the girl actually delivered all requested and services listed on her profile. Even the essay writers likely submitted ratings based almost entirely on her looks, his perception of her demeanor, his level of desperation to finally be alone in a room with a naked lady, whatever.
I have searched for this comment and the user did give a 1 star vote.
In this comment the user is simply trying to convey how bad his experience was by saying he would have voted lower if it was phtsically possible.I see. Thanks for that followup. But that doesn't mean he had found or read the Guidelines before submitting his 1 Star Rating. It only tells us that he had to submit something and could only go as low as 1 before he could submit his essay. I believe it clearly shows he didn't see or read the very first Guideline entry because that is where it says a one Star Rating is the poorest rating you can give a girl and, therefore, he wouldn't and shouldn't be pining for a way to submit a lower one, right?
It also strongly suggests he probably would have expressed his total disappointment in the session by not submitting a rating at all if it had been possible for him to submit the essay review without submitting a Star Rating first. Which is exactly the suspicion I had about the most disappointed Smooci girl customers anyway. Since they have likely never even seen those Guidelines, it is also likely that many of the customers who don't submit a Star Rating at all assume that by doing so they are giving their girl the worst possible rating and thereby ratcheting down her overall score when in fact that mistaken assumption is instead only bolstering and giving greater weight to her perhaps much fewer higher ratings.
This is the inherent pitfall of presenting a Star Rating system but with little or no effort given to making the guidelines, standards or basis for those ratings known by everyone, especially when a 1 Star Rating instead of a zero rating is the worst rating you can give. The end result is more counterproductive to informing customers with the ratings rather than productive to informing them. Once you have decided to provide a Star Rating under those conditions, it isn't as benign as that the Star Ratings aren't telling us very much. It is that they could actually be actively misinforming customers and unduly rewarding poor providers relative to good ones.
The essay review option is new and available only to the premium / pay subscribers and so I did not know you can't submit an essay without rating first.The review system has not changed much since we first launched. The rating and comment part has remained the same throughout and is not exclusive to premium members, it's avaialble to every member.
As already stated, you cannot submit any kind of review or comment without selecting a 1-5 star rating, and that has always been the case for all types of members, and it's clear on the review forms.
While we appreciate your concerns about the star ratings blog we wrote, we made a conscious decision to not push this blog on our site and decided that the ratings alone were a good indication, and the comments gave them the best context, rather than a set of rules that took away some of the subjectivity. We also quickly realized that adding too much info to the review pages caused a lot less people to complete the reviews. So while you have a difference of opnion on this, our opinion remains unchanged and we are working hard on things we see as much bigger abd more important issues, such as the launch of independents on to our site and expanding to other locations.
We get a lot of feedback sent to us, and try to use the forums to also get feedback, but to be very honest with you, you are the only one who brings up our ratings guide, and you have done so several times and on more than one forum. It really isn't reflective of the feedback we are getting and I don't think it's benefical to us or fair on the other users to steer so much of the conversation to this point. We have some major points we want to discuss and get feedback on, such as the way we use premium memberships, adding more accurate and verifiable profile info, adding greater safety for the clients and companions, getting independents onto the platform.
We do appreciate you are trying to help, but it can be a little frustrating at times for one person to keep steering the conversation in a different direction and feel like we are missing out on other valuable feedback from a broader selection of members.
One big issue I'm seeing with Smooci is the need for a hotel. I'm planning to move to more long-term BKK rentals, like airbnbs and contract apartments, but that means I won't be able to use Smooci since I can't be reached via a room-number phone call.
I must have completed well over 30 bookings at this point, plus I have premium, so that should give a good enough idea that my bookings are genuine. In my opinion, just premium alone should be enough for me to not need the phone verification. That and a local Thai number.
Are there any options here for me, besides just not using Smooci and instead doing offline P4P?
One big issue I'm seeing with Smooci is the need for a hotel. I'm planning to move to more long-term BKK rentals, like airbnbs and contract apartments, but that means I won't be able to use Smooci since I can't be reached via a room-number phone call.
I must have completed well over 30 bookings at this point, plus I have premium, so that should give a good enough idea that my bookings are genuine. In my opinion, just premium alone should be enough for me to not need the phone verification. That and a local Thai number.
Are there any options here for me, besides just not using Smooci and instead doing offline P4P?You shouldn't have any problems making a booking for a private residence within Bangkok.
The way it currently works with regards to a private residence: we would accept the booking and pass the info directly to the agency / companion to accept or reject. Most agencies will accept this quite quickly. They would also be shown if the booking was from a premium member, or someone who has booked before, to further still increase the chance the booking would get quickly accepted.
It's not a fool proof system, but we currently see a high percentage of non-hotel bookings going through without problem, and we are looking to improve this further as the system develops.
The review system has not changed much since we first launched. The rating and comment part has remained the same throughout and is not exclusive to premium members, it's avaialble to every member.My apologies for not realizing that. But when I click on "Go Premium" at the top of your website page, I see this as a feature available to those who Go Premium:
"Read user comments.
Have you ever noticed how every single user comment on an escort agency website is a glowing report on how Joe Bloggs had the most amazing time of his life?
Premium members get to read each and every user comment left on a companion, from the good, to the bad, to the not so ugly. We don't hide or edit any negative reports on companions booked on our platform, so as well as seeing the average review score a companion has received, as a Premium member you will be able to read about all their past experiences in detail."
Are you now saying this feature is available to everyone and not just those who Go Premium? Or did you mean everyone has been able to send you an email feedback comment all along, even before you started the above exclusive Premium feature? Well, yes, I did know someone could send an email feedback comment to you before.
As already stated, you cannot submit any kind of review or comment without selecting a 1-5 star rating, and that has always been the case for all types of members, and it's clear on the review forms.
While we appreciate your concerns about the star ratings blog we wrote, we made a conscious decision to not push this blog on our site and decided that the ratings alone were a good indication, and the comments gave them the best context, rather than a set of rules that took away some of the subjectivity. We also quickly realized that adding too much info to the review pages caused a lot less people to complete the reviews. So while you have a difference of opnion on this, our opinion remains unchanged and we are working hard on things we see as much bigger abd more important issues, such as the launch of independents on to our site and expanding to other locations.
We get a lot of feedback sent to us, and try to use the forums to also get feedback, but to be very honest with you, you are the only one who brings up our ratings guide, and you have done so several times and on more than one forum. It really isn't reflective of the feedback we are getting and I don't think it's benefical to us or fair on the other users to steer so much of the conversation to this point. We have some major points we want to discuss and get feedback on, such as the way we use premium memberships, adding more accurate and verifiable profile info, adding greater safety for the clients and companions, getting independents onto the platform.
We do appreciate you are trying to help, but it can be a little frustrating at times for one person to keep steering the conversation in a different direction and feel like we are missing out on other valuable feedback from a broader selection of members.Actually, there were several other posters here and elsewhere who brought up or commented on your Star Rating System/Guidelines, some who even proposed alternative or (to their mind) improved versions of the Guidelines. I never proposed alternative versions of it. For weeks I have only responded to other comments or reports about it, including yours, and not "brought it up" as an out of context new idea or subject not recently mentioned in the threads by others. And one of my comments was that I now agree with you and other posters that apparently virtually no one who uses Smooci or an escort service, and maybe only me in all of Thailand, cares all that much whether their chosen girl will actually deliver a requested service listed or promised ahead of time. They are just not all that into a means to better verify "truth in advertising" on that issue. I fully acknowledge and accept that fact now.
But when I see an example of an early Smooci essay review that quite literally illustrates a point I'd been making all along with regard to the handling of those Guidelines and while essentially being told that just isn't going to be a problem, I don't think it is out of line or a matter of "steering" anyone away from the point of it all for me to comment on it. And I also don't see it as unfair or "steering" for me to simply ask how you or anyone else can come to a convenient conclusion about a specific factor you'd like to proffer based on those Star Ratings when, as you have mentioned yourself, very few people have ever dug deep into your site to find and click on the Guidelines and read them and therefore no one is really working "to the same scale" basis or standard for those Ratings.
Good or bad, anyone trying to suggest your Star Ratings represent this or that factor to support whatever point they'd like to make at the moment, as you did elsewhere a few days ago, still has to explain why they would conclude such a thing, based on what, in order to give their conclusion any credibility.
With all due respect, whenever I see a post by anyone stating the girls' Smooci Star Ratings represent whether or not they are likely to actually deliver a requested and listed service, or any other factor, I think it is fair and very much to the point for someone to ask why they would conclude such a thing, based on what known standard or scale represented by those Ratings, and then politely wait for the answer. For example, I'm still waiting for your answer to that question re the conclusion you proffered about it elsewhere.
WarmStone25
06-29-17, 20:47
Smooci Premium.
I was planning another trip to Bangkok. So I thought I would take out a Premium membership just to see what it was like. I clicked on the relevant buttons for a 3 day membership. Everything went through smoothly and quickly. The reviews provide a lot of comments from customers which are useful if the number of reviews is of a significant number. It should be possible to make up a short list from these. Some girls have proportionally more poor reviews than other girls and would appear to be less reliable than others. The chances of a good session would be less with them. The comments are varied in content and length, some complaining that a girl would not do what she advertised she would do, or disappeared into the bathroom for 30 minutes, for example. Other comments are nothing but positive. I received e-mail confirmation about the transaction including one from the payment service. Three days later the transaction appeared in my bank account, as expected. If I was in Bangkok and wanted to date girls I would find this service useful because of the feed back that it gives and it would increase my chances of a good session.
I tried to sign up for a premium account today, but the site says that Smooci won't be accepting new memberships for a while. Anyone know when they are resuming? Will try emailing them directly too, but I noticed Smooci reps are pretty active on this board, so maybe they can respond.
Thanks!
I tried to sign up for a premium account today, but the site says that Smooci won't be accepting new memberships for a while. Anyone know when they are resuming? Will try emailing them directly too, but I noticed Smooci reps are pretty active on this board, so maybe they can respond.
Thanks!Hi, sorry about that. The premium sign ups are offline while our pay merchants do some quick upgrades. It's out of our hands but we are told it should be complete in 48 hours.
This doesn't affect any features on our site, we just can't accept payments while they are undergoing the upgrades.
WarmStone25
07-06-17, 13:10
The only thing to worry about is the potential for government interference. If this app becomes too successful, then it will probably lead to the kind of trouble that Uber and Airbnb are having with government authorities.
This app will give so much opportunity and freedom for both guys and ladies, that government authorities for sure won't like it. And unfortunately, they'll probably use an underhanded approach to shut down an app like this.
Instead of honestly saying that this is about taxes and control of the people. They would give some other reason to create animosity and division within society, so that people can't resist what they want to do. Divide and rule. This is an old saying Romans used to have. And that's what governments use even now to control the people. When the people are divided and are set against each other, then it's easier for government authorities to control them.
They'll probably say that they want to protect women from exploitation. And it won't be hard for them find a lady or two, who will endorse their message in the media.Is this why the Premium membership is offline?
Is this why the Premium membership is offline?No this isn't the case, we don't have any issue with the locally governments, the issue we have is with regards to our pay gateway. The site can function but we can't currently accept premium memberships.
Unfortunately it could be another week or more before we are able to accept payments, but other than that, smooci will be operating as normal. We are signed up to quite a big pay gateway, but they have had some technical problems and are undergoing major updates. As we are a new client with tham and not processing high volumes we are low on their priority list so we just have to be patient and wait for them.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Chresquire
07-14-17, 17:53
A couple quick questions for SmoociApp:
1) Premium: Do you know when the payment for Premium will return, as I will be visiting Thailand in mid-August and would like to purchase a months subscription to gain access to the reviews. Furthermore I was wondering what types of payment you will be accepting, as even if the billing is discreet I would prefer to pay either by bitcoin or something like an American Express Gift Card that I can buy with cash in my home country.
2) Full Name: I know this has been raised as a potential issue previously in this thread, but I'm not entirely comfortable giving out my full name when booking a girl as your system seems to require. If I put in my first name and the first letter of my last name and fill out the rest (E-mail, Hotel, Room #) do you think that would be sufficient?
3) Freelancers: This is just my personal curiosity, but I was wondering when you thought the Smooci App would be rolled out to FL's?
Thanks, and kudos on creating what looks to be a great app that I hope I'll be using quite a bit on my next trip!
I have used Smooci for several bookings during my stay in Bangkok a couple months ago, and will continue to use it to book escorts given the competitive pricing. In all of my previous bookings, I provided my Thailand based mobile number, as well as the name of the hotel I was staying along with the room number. In all of those instances, I had Smooci booking staff calling the hotel and transferring the call to my room. Normally, that would be fine however if I am not in my room, how will that work? Will my booking be rejected since the call would have gone unanswered? Or will they know to contact me on my provided mobile number?
I have RTFF and I wonder if we could have more reports on the ladies that has been seen via Smooci? I am heading out to BKK in a few months time and I would appreciate any info about ease of getting the lady to your hotel room (I. E was she on time etc?) as well as the quality of the service.
/ Kirsia.Have a look at the Bangkok Escort Thread, some of them have been reviewed there.
1) Premium:
Initially we were told the payment system would be down for 2 days, and then 2 weeks, but as we are seen as a low priority client it's taking a long time getting accurate updates. As a result we are now in talks with a new payment provider based in Europe and hope to be working with them within the next 4 weeks.
We are also working on adding a bitcoin payment option for those looking for more anonymous payments, and we hope to have this integerated very soon. Once this is ready and / or we have a new pay processor we will launch the premiums again.
2) Full Name:
Ultimately we need the name on the hotel room to pass over to the agency or companion so that they can confirm the booking is genuine. As to whether giving part of your name will be sufficeient, it really depends on the agency / companion as it's up to them to click accept or decline the booking. I would assume most agencies / companions would be OK with this.
3) Freelancers:
We've said we're close to being able to bring freelancers on several times and you are all still waiting so I don't want to put a date on it. But I'm confident it will be very soon. We have built an app which freelancers can download and which works as a virtual agency for them, allowing them to accapt and manage their bookings in full. It hit a few bugs as we went along but they seem to be all ironed out now and we're just doing some final testing and making cosmetic changes to it.
BigJimSlade
07-21-17, 22:28
Let me preface this by stating I have been using the smooci app fairly frequently since its launch and plan to continue with it. It fills a niche and works for my particular preferences on how I get my introductions to personal assistants tasked with getting my proverbial rocks off. That said, please consider my thoughts stated below not as anything but the way it is as I see it. Hopefully, this will trigger a productive conversation leading to some form of positive development. I won't hold my breath for that but it is the hope. This is what I just posted as a review after a completed appointment.
I understand the motivation to monetize this app in some way. What I cannot understand are the problems created when given the following plausible scenario:
A new user is faced with a deceptive advertisement in the form of misleading or false information. For instance, a companion's true age, height and weight. The new user is not familiar with the app and does not yet wish to pay for premium features. Let's say a decision is made based on the misrepresentations. The result is a loss of time and potentially money for the new user. In this case, the Smooci app could have revealed information it had hidden from the new user. For instance, the detailed reviews of other users may have guided a new user away from the companion selected. How can an application developer build a business model around facilitating the creation of disappointing and negative experiences? Having information that would better inform a consumer and then offering that information for sale or else suffer the risk of possibly being defrauded does not sound like offering a premium feature. It is more like playing the part of an accomplice. This problem is compounded by the fact that the same users that contribute to the accumulated information being sold are themselves subjected to the same roulette wheel of quasi extortion.
Perhaps renegotiating with the agencies for a small commission would be a means of compensating yourselves as the app developers at the same time be less of a potential criminal liability. It would also encourage user feedback. I, for one, cannot overlook how I am expected to be the Guinea pig, quality controller, performance evaluator and paying customer all at the same time. This will be my first and last contribution to the rating system.
Just spent an amazing week in Bangkok.
I had intended to use smooci extensively, but was disappointed to find that the premium access service was still closed.
In the end I went with girls from BP and CL as well as GoGo and Massage girls.
The lack of access is costing you revenue.
Let me preface this by stating I have been using the smooci app fairly frequently since its launch and plan to continue with it. It fills a niche and works for my particular preferences on how I get my introductions to personal assistants tasked with getting my proverbial rocks off. That said, please consider my thoughts stated below not as anything but the way it is as I see it. Hopefully, this will trigger a productive conversation leading to some form of positive development. I won't hold my breath for that but it is the hope. This is what I just posted as a review after a completed appointment.
I understand the motivation to monetize this app in some way. What I cannot understand are the problems created when given the following plausible scenario:
A new user is faced with a deceptive advertisement in the form of misleading or false information. For instance, a companion's true age, height and weight. The new user is not familiar with the app and does not yet wish to pay for premium features. Let's say a decision is made based on the misrepresentations. The result is a loss of time and potentially money for the new user. In this case, the Smooci app could have revealed information it had hidden from the new user. For instance, the detailed reviews of other users may have guided a new user away from the companion selected. How can an application developer build a business model around facilitating the creation of disappointing and negative experiences? Having information that would better inform a consumer and then offering that information for sale or else suffer the risk of possibly being defrauded does not sound like offering a premium feature. It is more like playing the part of an accomplice. This problem is compounded by the fact that the same users that contribute to the accumulated information being sold are themselves subjected to the same roulette wheel of quasi extortion.
Perhaps renegotiating with the agencies for a small commission would be a means of compensating yourselves as the app developers at the same time be less of a potential criminal liability. It would also encourage user feedback. I, for one, cannot overlook how I am expected to be the Guinea pig, quality controller, performance evaluator and paying customer all at the same time. This will be my first and last contribution to the rating system.Thanks for your feedback.
We feel that we are offering a useful service to all members regardless of the premium memberships, especially when compared to the current competitors in the Bangkok market (classifieds, directories, dating sites, agency sites).
While non-paying members cannot see photos which are deemed highly accurate, the system still removes photos which are deemed highly inaccurate for all members.
While non-paying members cannot read the user comments, they still have access to companion and agency ratings, which are a very strong indicator of service level. And we monitor and react to common comments, i.e. if several users comment that a companion is always late or not offering a certain service, we then contact the agency/companion directly to try correct this. If this doesn't fix the problem we then put restrictions on the companion's account until they improve, or ban them if they still don't improve.
Ultimately we are trying to create a competitive marketplace which raises the service levels and lowers the prices, allowing our service to still be available and useful for non-paying members. We feel our current monetizing structure works for the benefit of all our members, and allows us to have high standards and get the best prices. I.e. if we were to take some kind of cut of the actual booking fee then prices of bookings would most likley go up, with the agencies / companions having to factor in that extra cost. We would also then be more motivated to generate more bookings, rather than focussing our efforts to create a high standard of booking.
...companion and agency ratings, which are a very strong indicator of service level.How do you know the ratings are a very strong indicator of service level rather than of, for example, photo accuracy, the girls' attractiveness, her promptness, her perceived attitude, the chemistry between her and the customers she has had so far, her effectiveness in simply asking for a high rating on the way out the door or other factors?
How do you know the ratings are a very strong indicator of service level rather than of, for example, photo accuracy, the girls' attractiveness, her promptness, her perceived attitude, the chemistry between her and the customers she has had so far, her effectiveness in simply asking for a high rating on the way out the door or other factors?
Through reading the comments and customer feedback it is clear to us that a high rating is usually a very strong indicator of good and reliable service.
Through reading the comments and customer feedback it is clear to us that a high rating is usually a very strong indicator of good and reliable service.Interesting then that many if not most comments re the ratings on this and other sites lately is very much about whether the girl's appearance was acceptable or close to her photos and not much to do with service level.
BigJimSlade
07-26-17, 23:54
Thanks for your feedback.
We feel that we are offering a useful service to all members regardless of the premium memberships, especially when compared to the current competitors in the Bangkok market...At SmoociApp. Your points are well argued and I do believe that your stated motivations are genuine. Better still, it would appear that your work is also proving to be effective. First hand experience proves that the amount of money required to make it so that after a reasonable period of waiting, a human female knocks at your door and offers you sex is now less on average than the amount required prior to the arrival of Smooci.
For that alone, you should get some tangible rewards!
I do not see any reason to split hairs on all the fine details. The amount of attention paid to define personal subjectives as measurable standards obviously will generate many differently held, yet all equally wrong, opinions. I see no problem inspiring people to chatter however they want. It is the needless near hysteric emotion that comes with opinions these days. Plotted on the far ends of the appropriateness spectrum I would wish to see die from cancer of the a-hole already.
But in all seriousness, if somehow an app developer presented a method of measuring what makes a paid sexual experience worth repeating that instantly generated a universal sentiment of happiness and satisfaction on the first go at it. I think we'd all wake up in a nightmare alternate universe where only one type and taste for every possible thing was common to all men and anything outside of that was as desirable as wet toast.
Putting all that aside, I suppose what I had really wanted to call attention to is what value is being added to the service with a premium feature. It is my opinion, that the tiered benefits on their own ought to constitute what should commonly be considered a baseline standard for just plain trade of any kind. The facts about what is being bought and sold should not be sectioned off and revealed only after the transaction has occurred. I think we can agree that no one is running a charitable auction here so how can terms like this be agreeable?
Again, this is not a shot at the smooci developers, work, your character or anything like that. I am just wondering out loud how can you present something of *increased value* that would motivate someone to recognize that value and pay for it. As opposed to taking away a pretty primary assumption when entering into a transaction of this or any other type and then offering an opportunity to buy a feature that really just gets you to be back at zero.
When booking your appointment, I think it is pretty reasonable to expect that shortly thereafter you are not the one, in actual fact, who will be getting boned.
Unless, that is, if we let standards drop even further without hashing it out first. Imagine if gender was just another fun fact that may or may not be accurate. Want to find out? Pay now or pray later, up to you!
Interesting then that many if not most comments re the ratings on this and other sites lately is very much about whether the girl's appearance was acceptable or close to her photos and not much to do with service level.We follow several forums, analyse the user comments, and get private feedback to us. Based on this info we are very confident that the ratings work and a high rating (4. 5 and above) points towards good sevices, where as a low rating (3. 5 and below) suggests a poor performer.
At SmoociApp. Your points are well argued and I do believe that your stated motivations are genuine. Better still, it would appear that your work is also proving to be effective. First hand experience proves that the amount of money required to make it so that after a reasonable period of waiting, a human female knocks at your door and offers you sex is now less on average than the amount required prior to the arrival of Smooci.
For that alone, you should get some tangible rewards!
I do not see any reason to split hairs on all the fine details. The amount of attention paid to define personal subjectives as measurable standards obviously will generate many differently held, yet all equally wrong, opinions. I see no problem inspiring people to chatter however they want. It is the needless near hysteric emotion that comes with opinions these days. Plotted on the far ends of the appropriateness spectrum I would wish to see die from cancer of the a-hole already.
But in all seriousness, if somehow an app developer presented a method of measuring what makes a paid sexual experience worth repeating that instantly generated a universal sentiment of happiness and satisfaction on the first go at it. I think we'd all wake up in a nightmare alternate universe where only one type and taste for every possible thing was common to all men and anything outside of that was as desirable as wet toast.
Putting all that aside, I suppose what I had really wanted to call attention to is what value is being added to the service with a premium feature. It is my opinion, that the tiered benefits on their own ought to constitute what should commonly be considered a baseline standard for just plain trade of any kind. The facts about what is being bought and sold should not be sectioned off and revealed only after the transaction has occurred. I think we can agree that no one is running a charitable auction here so how can terms like this be agreeable?
Again, this is not a shot at the smooci developers, work, your character or anything like that. I am just wondering out loud how can you present something of *increased value* that would motivate someone to recognize that value and pay for it. As opposed to taking away a pretty primary assumption when entering into a transaction of this or any other type and then offering an opportunity to buy a feature that really just gets you to be back at zero.
When booking your appointment, I think it is pretty reasonable to expect that shortly thereafter you are not the one, in actual fact, who will be getting boned.
Unless, that is, if we let standards drop even further without hashing it out first. Imagine if gender was just another fun fact that may or may not be accurate. Want to find out? Pay now or pray later, up to you!Without going in to detail on how we got started and ended up in this industry, I can say that there was a lot of debate on how we monetize this site / idea in a way we had the correct motivations: the ability to be able to generate funds and remain motivated to create a platform which helps the genuine clients and rewards the honest escorts / agencies, and generally does something positive in the industry.
We are not the first to try bridge the gap between directory and agency, but the other major projects we have seen which have done this have had their earnings connect to the actual cost and number of bookings. This ultimately leaves them motivated to work in favour of the big agencies and be focussed on figures rather than the people and expereince. We feel we have found a way to avoid that motivation and build a platform which can be positive and do good things, while also generating some income as a business.
Regarding the current premium memberships (albeit that they are currently not active), we strongly beleive the premium memberships offer very good value to genuine users. The savings some users are making on 1 single booking is greater than the value of some of our membership costs, and baring in mind our only income is our premium membership payments, those who don't want to purchase a membership are still able to use our site and take advantage of our live directory and instant boking system (I don't think there is anything similar available in Bangkok which offers a live search api and instant, automated booking system, certainly not for free).
We knew whichever way we approached it we wouldn't be able to please everyone, but we are very happy with the current set up and balance we have. We are also the first to admit that we are still young in the industry and it's not a perfect system. We are very open to positive change, taking on board feedback and analysing the market and product as we go along.
We do have a lot of supporters who we are extremely grateful for, but to those who aren't sure about Smooci, or simply don't agree with what we are doing, we ask that you give us a little more time before making a strong judgement; we have a lot of positive things going on behind the scenes, and there are some major parts of this project which haven't launched yet, and which we are very excited about. Expect to see some big, positive steps forward before the end of the year.
We follow several forums, analyse the user comments, and get private feedback to us. Based on this info we are very confident that the ratings work and a high rating (4. 5 and above) points towards good sevices, where as a low rating (3. 5 and below) suggests a poor performer.This is not what I experienced during the last 2 weeks. I sampled a few girls, 3 of them were very highly rated (2 at 4.8 and 1 at 4.9). You probably read my reports on these girls in the Bangkok Escort Thread, as I said there I went from a little disappointed to very disappointed by my choices. The service was not bad nor good. It was just OK, the girls did not provide everything written on their profile but I did not ask anything, I just went with the flow. They were all nice also so their attitude was not a problem. Most importantly they did not look like their pictures. It was unbelievable for me to see girls that are 10 years older than their profile being so highly rated. Almost everything was false, age, weight, pictures that doesn't show them as they actually are or pictures that have been taken 15 years ago. The difference was huge for some girls. I have looked at these profiles for quite some time and their pictures have never changed. I cannot believe that most of their customers said that their pictures were accurate.
I had some confidence in the rating but after the last girl I have no confidence anymore in the rating except that the girls rated below 4.5 are probably a very poor choice and we should avoid them at all cost, but for me a very highly rated girl is not a sign that the girl will be great.
And frankly I don't think there is anything you can do about it because it seems that you're in shortage of girls for the moment, so you cannot put any pressure on them.
I would also add that some girls doesn't even know that they are rated after their performance.
We follow several forums, analyse the user comments, and get private feedback to us. Based on this info we are very confident that the ratings work and a high rating (4. 5 and above) points towards good sevices, where as a low rating (3. 5 and below) suggests a poor performer.Yes, that 4. 5 Star Rating bottom floor threshold would certainly be my criteria before booking in order to better ensure at least a minimal standard of listed services. I have even cited that rating on the threads as such. But, in my case, that is based solely on a hunch that no matter how beautiful the girl who shows up is, if she refuses or puts up a fuss about providing an important requested service listed on her profile few customers are going to overlook that and award her the many 5 Star Ratings she would need to maintain that kind of average anyway.
On the other hand, it would be a shame to avoid booking an attractive looking girl who delivers a truly fantastic BBBJ+CIM because her 3. 5 Star Rating is based almost entirely on her not being the raving beauty in person that she appeared to be in her pics. And, from the user comments I have read focusing so much more often on the girls' looks re those Star Ratings, that could be a plausible state of things quite often imo.
On the other hand, it would be a shame to avoid booking an attractive looking girl who delivers a truly fantastic BBBJ+CIM because her 3. 5 Star Rating is based almost entirely on her not being the raving beauty in person that she appeared to be in her pics. And, from the user comments I have read focusing so much more often on the girls' looks re those Star Ratings, that could be a plausible state of things quite often imo.
I think this post is very misleading for Smooci users. We have yet to see any examples of this. Again, based on the sum of all feedback we are confident that a high rating of 4. 5 and above points to good service, while 3. 5 and below does not.
I think this post is very misleading for Smooci users. We have yet to see any examples of this. Again, based on the sum of all feedback we are confident that a high rating of 4. 5 and above points to good service, while 3. 5 and below does not.There are 2 ratings, model rating and agency rating. What do the 2 rating rate?
How can I order 2 girls on Smooci for a threesome.
Also can you add the girls stats on the summary page.
There are 2 ratings, model rating and agency rating. What do the 2 rating rate?The companion rating is the average rating given to that companion.
The agency rating is the average rating for that agency, currently based on the ratings of all their companions.
How can I order 2 girls on Smooci for a threesome.It's something we will work on once we get a few other features launched. We have put a bit of thought in to it already but don't have the best solution yet.
I think this post is very misleading for Smooci users. We have yet to see any examples of this. Again, based on the sum of all feedback we are confident that a high rating of 4. 5 and above points to good service, while 3. 5 and below does not.To tell Smooci users that a high rating means the girls deliver a high level of service is also misleading since nowhere on your site are the ratings defined as reflecting service levels. Maybe, but maybe not. Even your guidelines, should the rare user even know they exist and chooses to search for them on your site and which you have since posting them disavowed as reflecting anything specific, blend in elements other than service levels.
I read essay type reviews of P4P girls on sites like this one quite often where the customer raves about his experience with a girl despite the fact that she resisted delivering certain expected services at all much less well. Can't imagine that there is something so radically different about Smooci users that their comments and essay type reviews are so doggedly focused on rating the girls' level of service that they are not blended in with the same highly subjective "chemistry/attitude/demeanor" elements I see customers rhapsodize about rather than service levels everywhere else.
The companion rating is the average rating given to that companion.
The agency rating is the average rating for that agency, currently based on the ratings of all their companions.And neither one of them are connected to guidelines saying users should use them to rate service levels and not anything else related to the experience like the girls' looks, similarity to her photos, her perceived attitude, her demeanor, her hygiene, her chemistry with you, her promptness, etc., right?
Gulfcruise
07-31-17, 20:12
Was in LOS from Jul 20 to Jul 29, after getting bored with discos and pubs thought of home delivery. Browsed the smooci profiles and decided to give JAMMY a try, one of the big breasted escort.
Duration: 2 HR.
Arrived on time, very friendly, after a brief chit-chat and a smoke and we jumped into action. She literally enjoyed fucking between her boobs, at one stage she made her boobs so tight to feel the vaginal simulation and straight away CIM.
After a relaxation of 20 minutes, she invited for a actual round, missionary and finished in doggy.
Further, she gave some massage before she left, She made sure to stay 2 hrs with good company.
Tipped her 500 BT, she left happily.
Any updates on Smooci's start to Singapore? Will it take by the end of the year?
Playboy2001
08-09-17, 01:10
Was in LOS from Jul 20 to Jul 29, after getting bored with discos and pubs thought of home delivery. Browsed the smooci profiles and decided to give JAMMY a try, one of the big breasted escort.
Duration: 2 HR.
Arrived on time, very friendly, after a brief chit-chat and a smoke and we jumped into action. She literally enjoyed fucking between her boobs, at one stage she made her boobs so tight to feel the vaginal simulation and straight away CIM.
After a relaxation of 20 minutes, she invited for a actual round, missionary and finished in doggy.
Further, she gave some massage before she left, She made sure to stay 2 hrs with good company.
Tipped her 500 BT, she left happily.What was the damage, apart from the tip?
Without going in to detail on how we got started and ended up in this industry, I can say that there was a lot of debate on how we monetize this site / idea in a way we had the correct motivations: the ability to be able to generate funds and remain motivated to create a platform which helps the genuine clients and rewards the honest escorts / agencies, and generally does something positive in the industry.
We are not the first to try bridge the gap between directory and agency, but the other major projects we have seen which have done this have had their earnings connect to the actual cost and number of bookings. This ultimately leaves them motivated to work in favour of the big agencies and be focussed on figures rather than the people and expereince. We feel we have found a way to avoid that motivation and build a platform which can be positive and do good things, while also generating some income as a business.
Regarding the current premium memberships (albeit that they are currently not active), we strongly beleive the premium memberships offer very good value to genuine users. The savings some users are making on 1 single booking is greater than the value of some of our membership costs, and baring in mind our only income is our premium membership payments, those who don't want to purchase a membership are still able to use our site and take advantage of our live directory and instant boking system (I don't think there is anything similar available in Bangkok which offers a live search api and instant, automated booking system, certainly not for free).
We knew whichever way we approached it we wouldn't be able to please everyone, but we are very happy with the current set up and balance we have. We are also the first to admit that we are still young in the industry and it's not a perfect system. We are very open to positive change, taking on board feedback and analysing the market and product as we go along.
We do have a lot of supporters who we are extremely grateful for, but to those who aren't sure about Smooci, or simply don't agree with what we are doing, we ask that you give us a little more time before making a strong judgement; we have a lot of positive things going on behind the scenes, and there are some major parts of this project which haven't launched yet, and which we are very excited about. Expect to see some big, positive steps forward before the end of the year.That sure is a lot to read through. Premium membership or not you should be straight with everyone that you do business with. Eventually you'll be reading a review by a senior member (not me) and you'll either have positive feedback or will be doing some serious damage control. It will happen eventually.
JimboTambo
08-09-17, 05:30
That sure is a lot to read through. Premium membership or not you should be straight with everyone that you do business with. Eventually you'll be reading a review by a senior member (not me) and you'll either have positive feedback or will be doing some serious damage control. It will happen eventually.I'll be in BKK for a week from 5 September and would really like to use the Premium Membership because of the advantages you list. I found the standard site useful and used it 3 times 6 months ago and am very happy to utilise the premium services. But it is still not open. It is taking forever. When will it be ready?
I'll be in BKK for a week from 5 September and would really like to use the Premium Membership because of the advantages you list. I found the standard site useful and used it 3 times 6 months ago and am very happy to utilise the premium services. But it is still not open. It is taking forever. When will it be ready?I am also waiting to hear back about this question?
When will premium service be offered again?
No one seems to answer emails either.
FormulaOneFan
08-13-17, 03:06
Any updates on Smooci's start to Singapore? Will it take by the end of the year?Would like to know. Was hoping to use it when I'm there in September, but not looking that promising.
I am also waiting to hear back about this question?
When will premium service be offered again?
No one seems to answer emails either.Yeah I've been trying to purchase as well. Leaving for holiday the 23rd. Like to get premium.
I am also waiting to hear back about this question?
When will premium service be offered again?
No one seems to answer emails either.Premium services will be up again before the end of this month. We had some problems with our original payment processors, which meant a lot of payment requests were getting rejected, inparticular US cards. They then changed their API and that caused our payments to be down for an unaccpetable amount of time, so we used that time to move and re-register our company incompliance with the bigger payment providers.
We are now working with a new payment processor and should have the payments up before the end of this month, with the addition of a bitcoin option for those looking for extra anonymity.
We aren't following this forum very closely now, so excuse us if we don't reply quickly. It's much better to email us directly if you have any issues you require us to reply to. We do try to answer all emails within 24 hours and reply to every one (I have checked our emails and there are no unanswered emails in our account. Please email us again if your queries was not answered).
Pretty disappointing with site payment down they not registeing anyone. Not even if you offer to pay later when the payment system is up.
I got BKK vist this week but can't register for a week membership.
If anyone willing with a premium membership could you post the comments of the following ladies I wanted membership mainly for the reviews / comments: Wondering which of these likley good time and not photoshopped.
Rain.
Jaajaa.
Patty.
Soda.
Mook.
Veronica.
Gita.
Lily.
If anyone willing with a premium membership could you post the comments of the following ladies I wanted membership mainly for the reviews / comments: Wondering which of these likley good time and not photoshopped.This is a spreadsheet I did for July, but didn't use because site was down.
All from Premium comments.
Name Age Star // Price (2 hours) // Good / Bad // DFK / BBBJFS / COB.
Mon 28 3. 8 3000 Sweet / Shy // Temper / P.S.'the / All.
View 24 4. 8 2940 Horny All.
Stella 26 4. 1 3000 very professional. Very nice // Shy, not all services All.
Plang 20 5 3000 Simply amazing No BBBJ.
Sun 27 3. 7 3000 She is really good and decent / Rushed 33 vs 27 All.
JC 28 4. 4 3000 Maybe the best experience of my life / Poor BJ technique All.
Zali 30 4. 8 3000 mature-ish lady for a GF All.
Yuko 29 4,2 3500 Tall. Good BJ Sweet All.
Colina 27 4. 8 3500 Amazing service // Shy All.
Poppy 30 4. 7 3750 Good service, bubbly and friendly All.
Mayumi 25 3. 9 3750 Great Body GFE // Heavier / older All.
J-Net 22 4. 3 3750 Absolutely fabulous // Shy All.
Jaajaa 35 4. 7 3750 Pretty much your perfect GFE // Older All.
Kel 21 4. 7 3750 Very Nice // Mechanical All.
Ginger 27 4. 8 3750 Very good 38 inches All.
Berry 34 4. 2 3750 Great, sexy, intelligent // Older, plainer All.
Oli 20 4. 7 3900 Stunningly good //24 not 20, poor english All.
Tess 26 4. 3 3900 nice girlfriend experience // older All.
Gita 24 4. 4 3900 Stunning // Shy maynot do 'All' All.
Naris 27 4. 2 3900 Had an amazing time All.
Venus 26 4. 3 4000 Lovely sweet girl // Unstable All.
Emma 26 4. 6 4000 Top down to earth woman // Not 27 All.
Natt 21 4,7 4500 Amazing //32 bust All.
Thank you for this, very helpful.
Ladies I had my eye on not there but will use this list as a start as was also interested in these that are in your spreadsheet and have high numbers:
Colina.
Gita.
Poppy.
Stela.
KhyatiDropbox
08-17-17, 09:54
I can provide reviews for any girl on Smooci, let me know which ones you would like.
AngeloDeath
08-17-17, 17:59
I can provide reviews for any girl on Smooci, let me know which ones you would like.That would be very helpful! Any reviews up for Noey, Soda, Mayu and Vanida?
That would be very helpful! Any reviews up for Noey, Soda, Mayu and Vanida?I can tell you vanida good girl looks closest to photos with fake tits that are not bad cause not out of shape to body.
Very sweet girl and would repeat.
Only negative she asked money upfront.
I can provide reviews for any girl on Smooci, let me know which ones you would like.Yeah thanks!
Can you also let me know about Soda.
Also any of these.
Gita.
Rain.
Jaajaa.
Veronica.
Patty.
I can provide reviews for any girl on Smooci, let me know which ones you would like.Many thanks that would be extremely helpful until Smooci sort out their premium signup issue.
Please could I have:
Noey.
Gita.
Fanta.
Kate.
Sano.
No prizes for guessing my type!
AngeloDeath
08-18-17, 15:39
I can tell you vanida good girl looks closest to photos with fake tits that are not bad cause not out of shape to body.
Very sweet girl and would repeat.
Only negative she asked money upfront.Is her English good? Would like to take her for a night out if time permits.
BenevolentOne
08-18-17, 17:32
I can provide reviews for any girl on Smooci, let me know which ones you would like.Bobby.
Zali.
Noey.
Lily.
Gita.
Really hoping premium gets fixed. Arrive BKK in eight days.
Thanks for help.
I can provide reviews for any girl on Smooci, let me know which ones you would like.Says a new member with 1 post. Very trustworthy.
KhyatiDropbox
08-19-17, 10:06
Zali.
Well, she was very reserved and quite shy, like it was her very first time. Also, she lacked enthusiasm and focus when it came to the BBBJ, and it was mostly all teeth. Plus, she was as dry as burnt toast and seemingly would only accept a doggy style position. Overall, she is a sweet girl and takes a bit to warm up to the act. Sadly, we never got to that point. For me, if the girl isn't in to it, or the very least doing her best to pretend, it just ruins the whole experience. I ended up sending her home an hour early, not for lack of trying, but because I felt a stomach illness setting in.
She is very nice person she deserve respect and all the best thing, wish to see her again.
Had a wonderful time.
She's incredible. She claims that's she's 30 but she has the body of a 20 year old. She really lives up to the expectation of number one in Bangkok. Will 100% book again tomorrow.
Very polite and nice, was a little late but its okay.
So wonderful and real GFE!
She is a simple girl, can speak little bit of English. Very good service.
Please Gentlemen, show respect to this lady and here work, she deserve it!
Khun Zali M is a wonderful, sweet and very lovely caretaking lady. Highly recommendable. 6 Stars.
She made me very comfortable and was amazing.
Great experience.
Amazing, very kind and pretty.
Tenderley beautiful inside & out.
She is very nice. She is a good talker and listener, and you can feel safe with her in your room. BJ was very good, but positions were so-so. I had to initiate some of the stuff. It wasn't PSE. Basically, if you want a nice mature-ish lady for a GFE, Zali is for you. At least during your refractory period, you can have a decent conversation.
Beautiful and sweet.
Lovely lady, sophisticated and charming.
Simply awesome.
Bobby.
High quality service.
Nice and beautiful skin.
Bobby is great! Patient and attentive. Thanks!
Bobby was cuter in person and very petite! She has a great since of humour and a gorgeous smile! She is super laid back and lots of fun to hang out with! Best experience ever! Will definitely use her next time I am in Bangkok!
Bobby was lovely. Petite and just like her photo.
If you want to live through a pornstar moment you've seen them this is the woman. If your a boobs guy, you'll love her even with her small figure. They're nice and perky. She does everything and is so sexy and upbeat. You can't go wrong with this woman. DFK, A-Stuff, the works. I wish I had more time with her. Just amazing from top to bottom.
Amazing women. Wonderful service. The best. Made me feel very comfortable.
She is even cuter in person. Gorgeous personality and smile.
Soft, gentle, and good at what you would except from a G. F experience. Will definitely book her on my next visit. Great service.
Bobby is sweet, funny and good company. Good conversation as well as other excellent skills!
An amazing experience. It started with her taking a shower with me. I was surprised when she came in with me in the shower as I had not expected. No nonsense shower and then the real deal started. Fantabulous in bed. She knows her way around the male body. Pleased me in ways I had never experienced before. I will definitely book again on my next visit.
Service is ok\njust speak a little english so we can't communicate well.
Had a great time with Bobby. She is fun, and joking around. Her English is bad. We had a hard time communicating regarding most things except sex. Also, her age is definitely not 26. More accurate would be 36. This was a let-down. When it comes to service she was good. Really putting in an effort. After a lot of trying and a lot of lubrication she managed A-level. Thumbs up for being a good sport!
Very friendly lady, photos very accurate. Service excellent. Would repeat for sure.
Fantastic.
Awesome.
Caring and great service from start to finish.
What can I say? The woman is wonderful, sweet, attractive, attentive, and everything a man could ask for. I am leaving Thailand tomorrow and will miss her company, but will surely contact her again when I return to Bangkok.
First of all, Bobby is much more attractive than her pictures. And her personality is charming and contagious. I have never felt more comfortable around someone who I have just met than I was with Bobby. She is fun, loving, seductive, and genuinely wants to be with you. I will book her again and again.
Bobby is much more attractive than the photos reflect, and her charm and caring attitude was so welcome. We started out together for six hours but quickly extended this to the next morning! What can I say -- I just loved waking up to her. I would not hesitate to see her again. . . And I will.
Fantastic girl in every way.
Very cute and funny. I would recommend her to anyone want to have some nice time with her.
Great in every way. In and out of bed.
Very warm and kind. Thank you!
If it is really good sex that you are looking for, then Bobby is amazing at what she does. \and\nNot being able to do anal (even though she tried) is okay, but I felt so so about still having to pay the extra for it. \and\nI believe that if you speak Thai, your visit with Bobby will be the best, without good communication, it simply cannot be a 5 for me, and not recieving the curtesy of not having to pay the extra fee for anal that makes it a 3. \and (I would had given her half of it for good effort) \and\nStill, I am not dissapointed with Bobby.
Very charming lady who do her best.
Very nice girl. Worked hard to make me happy.
Great experience. Bobby is nice lovely girl and a true expert. I would love to see her again!
Noey.
Wonderful.
A lot of fun. Easy to talk with and very pleasant to look at. Pictures are accurate. Exactly my type. Will book her again!
Noey can make even the hard person happy.
Perfect girl, lots of fun. Made the evening exiting. Would recommend.
Noey is down to earth and funny! She made me feel great, recommend!
Wonderful companion and very skilled but shy.
Sweet girl, english was good.
Great girl, lovely personality. Sweet and slightly shy, nice ass.
Was amazing. Wish to never end, love the moments enjoyed a lot.
Would not see North America black men.
Cute girl!
If this is your service. I never want to use your service. If I covert its like 5000 baht for a BJ. All the description was in her profile did not match at all to her actions. I want to give feedback on this and yes, you are loosing a big business as every week my friends visit Bkk. Really not accepted such kind of service. Smooci need to upgrade the service sector. Thank you. I won't use smooci until I get a fair reply from you guys. Thank you.
She is nice.
Yes those are all photos o her but she is more beautiful in person. Great personality and sex. Would defiantly see her again.
Nice girl, good body, bit hesitant, turned up late, doesn't do BBBJ and doesn't like 69.
She cannot sleep deeply with man, wants sleep alone like a baby. \nAt morning I cannot insert her because she felt pain at vagina. \nMaybe she works too hard every night. \nPlease take care of her health.
She is charming but she feels pain when insert her so much.
Didn't perform as offered (BBBJ). Her vagina, at the time, was hurting her and couldn't make vaginal sex properly. Personality wise she was sweet and very conversable in English. Girlfriend Experience was great. Beauty is top notch and sweeter in person than photos. I'd certainly love to book her again if she could honor our agreement.
Amazing girl. Would see again soon.
Okay. She's cute and sweet. But she's not 20 as stated on the website, she's 22 . And her weight is not 40 kilo, I would guess around 50 . On the website she's describe as giving BBBJ. She don't. Kissing. No she won't. And she was complaining that everything hurts, it was not something I'm going to do again. I sendt her home after 1 hour. It felt more like [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) than sex. I don't care about the money. But I hate wasting my time. And by the way she arrived 30 minutes late. I will recommend you to be more specific and accurate describing the girls and what they offer. This was a disappointment.
Beautiful lady, service little less average.
Great personality and the right type of attidude to please.
Talks too much about other customers. Did not want to cuddle during sleep. Poor attitude.
Nice funny, but very tired she want to sleep!
Perfect.
She was very nice and pretty but the service was not up to par. There was no DFK, no DATY, no rimming, no BBBJ and she had no stamina. After 10 minutes she was saying that she's tired. Hopefully it was just an off day for her.
Cute and sexy haha\nLooks like [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901).
She did not provide the services listed on your website. I send her away after 1 hour and she demanded 2 hours pay.
She smells from the mouth, she's ugly and bad sex.
Adorable girl. Looks exactly like her photo. Good English and quite charming. Really beautiful.
Lily.
Lovely girl. Wonderful experience!
Nice girl.
She is beautiful and cooperative. Enjoyed my time with her.
Good service but not same as pic.
Good service, but very small boobs.
What a lovely genuine girl. Great time chatting away and lots of fun. Looks better in real life and better without make up!
She is atleast 3-4 yrs older than her picture. Friendly and helpful. Understand a little bit English. Happy to go out with you to see they Bangkok. New in the profession. Only thing is she is old looking and if you are looking for the lady in the pics you will going to be disappointed.
She came drunk and she didn't have any energy left. After the first pop, she said she is too tired. Definitely not on my next list.
Skilled and enthusiastic, great BJ.
The photo looks different than reality. She is far older and bigger than the photo.
Friendly and attentive.
It seems the rating is reliable on this one. Excellent performance of her services offered on the website. Truly porn star experience. Only trouble was that the timing of my booking was night and she was a little bit tired but regardless she has performed incredibly well. Might book her again at proper time like 8 pm and try her at her best.
Very sensual and customer centric.
Very nice.
Great girl! Pleasing to be with, nice english and massages well. \and\nThanks.
Gita.
Great girl, great skills and great English.
Very good. She was extremely polite and cooperative and did not push or rush me. Good experience. Very slender and petite with accurate photographs and very good English. Met Bangkok, her agency, need to improve their communication with the client about arrival updates. They did not ring back as they promised or respond to text or email and left me hanging with no information. Gita 5. Met Bangkok 2.
Gita is a wonderful and caring lady. Top girl. Slim, beautiful and smart.
She was saying that she didn't DFK. But DFK is indicated on her service of a web. Which is a lie?\nAlso, she was in the bathroom alone for more than 1 hour. What would she do there?\nI'll never call her.
Really lovely girl who is quiet and shy like most Thai girls. GFE. Definitely trying to please and accommodating. Physically she's thin and looks almost fragile so be gentle with her guys. My only real criticism is with the app's accuracy. She's actually 27 and not 24 years old. It's not the end of the world but I really wish the app would do some minimal fact checking.
Sweet and friendly girl. No rush at all and excellent overall attitude. Good agency coordination and it's GPS tool to track her arrival is remarkable.
She is awesome. Love her nice body and pleasant attitude. Real high class service.
Very cute and nice lady. Same as in photo. Cleaned up everything after herself. However a bit hesitant and rush on time.
Arrived on time as requested. Gita is absolutely stunning left me speechless. Had fabulous time with a dream girl. Would be mad not to book with her again!
Lovely girl.
Very nice service and she will take care of your needs.
1. Good Body 2. Happy Girl 3. Grate time.
Spent 20+ minutes in the bathroom when she arrived. No deep kissing provided. \and\nBut. Very polite. A nice lady, just not my type.
Beautiful. Sweet. On time. Good time.
She was very pretty and nice, but the services advertised (COF, DFK) on her profile were not accurate.
Thank you.
Great person, she is amazing. Very sweet took care of me.
Very accommodating and sophisticated girl. Very sexy thank you.
Gita is really darling and cute, with smile on the face and good English. She is slim but with amazing body, just look on her makes you horny and she has also other weapons in arsenal: Thanks for great time on the end of my vacation.
Best ever. Only the best. I only want her next time.
Very friendly and accommodating. Good blowjob.
She is a very nice woman but her service is bad she has a good heart and is very friendly but that is not the reason I book her I pay for A level did not have I end up sending her home after 2.5 hours not 4 hour like I payed over all 4 of 10 points.
Bobby.
Zali.
Noey.
Lily.
Gita.
Really hoping premium gets fixed. Arrive BKK in eight days.
Thanks for help.
AngeloDeath
08-20-17, 12:17
Says a new member with 1 post. Very trustworthy.One of the reviews which he posted is a review which I wrote on Smooci so I think he is 100% legit. Also it's disappointing reading Noey's reviews, was really hoping to book her when I get to Bangkok in 2 weeks.
So they opened up premium. But it's for bitcoin only. From what I've gathered it takes 3 days to 2 weeks to even buy bitcoin. So too late for me since trip is in a few days. It says CC is coming soon.
We have now added a Bit Coin payment option and can accept premium memberships again.
We are working on integrating a new card payment option with a European bank. We have been approved and will have that option up ASAP.
Sorry for the delay.
So they opened up premium. But it's for bitcoin only. From what I've gathered it takes 3 days to 2 weeks to even buy bitcoin. So too late for me since trip is in a few days. It says CC is coming soon.With some bitcoin services you can open an account and have bitcoin the same day.
Bx. In. Th is good for clients with a Thai bank account and takes less than 24 hours. Coinbase.com is good for clients who don't have a Thai bank account and takes 2-3 days maximum and in some cases instantly.
I can provide reviews for any girl on Smooci, let me know which ones you would like.Hey mate,
I will be in BKK at the end of this month, and haven't been able to get a premium membership yet (credit card systems down).
Would really appreciate it if you could link some of the feed back on:
Megus.
Jeda.
Sazy.
CK.
Naris.
Thanks in advance.
We are happy to announce that we are now able to process card payments for Premium Memberships, once again. In the addition to being able to accept VISA, Mastercard, and several other card types, we also offer payments by BitCoin.
Hey mate,
I will be in BKK at the end of this month, and haven't been able to get a premium membership yet (credit card systems down).
Would really appreciate it if you could link some of the feed back on:
Megus.
Jeda.
Sazy.
CK.
Naris.
Thanks in advance.Sazy was good. She did everything that was requested and provided great service. Don't know about others.
Hey mate,
I will be in BKK at the end of this month, and haven't been able to get a premium membership yet (credit card systems down).
Would really appreciate it if you could link some of the feed back on:
Megus.
Jeda.
Sazy.
CK.
Naris.
Thanks in advance.CK is good. Knows her stuff, and speaks decent English. Bit mechanical though, but maybe that was just me at the time.
Since premium is back up I'd recommend reading the recent reviews on there though, since it's been a while since I had her.
WarmStone25
08-29-17, 13:53
I was in Bangkok in March this year. I booked Oli from Metbangkokescorts through Smooci. Had a good session. A few days ago I saw her on Smooci again. This brought back fond memories of our session. Today I see Oli, from the same agency, on Smooci. This Oli, in the photos, is not the same Oli that I had a session with. I looked at the reports, there are none for August. I suspect that I have read some of the reports before. Could it be that the agency has substituted a new girl for the previous Oli, but kept the name and reports? Is this possible and could it undermine the Smooci rating system?
I was in Bangkok in March this year. I booked Oli from Metbangkokescorts through Smooci. Had a good session. A few days ago I saw her on Smooci again. This brought back fond memories of our session. Today I see Oli, from the same agency, on Smooci. This Oli, in the photos, is not the same Oli that I had a session with. I looked at the reports, there are none for August. I suspect that I have read some of the reports before. Could it be that the agency has substituted a new girl for the previous Oli, but kept the name and reports? Is this possible and could it undermine the Smooci rating system?It's unlikely that an agency would do this, they could easily open another companion account. We have quite strict rules and bait and switch is something we don't tolerate. If it were discovered to be true we would suspend or remove both the girl and the agency.
We have had some issues with heavily photoshopped images and are trying to counter that with user-led photo verification. But we haven't yet had any issues of doffeeeht companions being sent.
If you feel this is the case please email us directly with the details and we can look into it.
I was in Bangkok in March this year. I booked Oli from Metbangkokescorts through Smooci. Had a good session. A few days ago I saw her on Smooci again. This brought back fond memories of our session. Today I see Oli, from the same agency, on Smooci. This Oli, in the photos, is not the same Oli that I had a session with. I looked at the reports, there are none for August. I suspect that I have read some of the reports before. Could it be that the agency has substituted a new girl for the previous Oli, but kept the name and reports? Is this possible and could it undermine the Smooci rating system?Are you sure is not her long hair (real / wig) that makes the difference?
I remembered Oli was short hair and now she is long hair in her current display pics in smooci and the agency she work with.
Further more, some plastics surgeries are so common with Thai girls.
WarmStone25
08-31-17, 17:27
Are you sure is not her long hair (real / wig) that makes the difference?
I remembered Oli was short hair and now she is long hair in her current display pics in smooci and the agency she work with.
Further more, some plastics surgeries are so common with Thai girls.I found pictures of Oli from when I booked her on Facebook under Smooci. I have to admit, I am not really sure now. The recent pictures that I saw could be her, with different photos, and clothes, and hair.
There is only one thing for it. I will be in Bangkok in November and if Oli is on Smooci I will get a date with her to settle this matter. I will report in due course.
I found pictures of Oli from when I booked her on Facebook under Smooci. I have to admit, I am not really sure now. The recent pictures that I saw could be her, with different photos, and clothes, and hair.
There is only one thing for it. I will be in Bangkok in November and if Oli is on Smooci I will get a date with her to settle this matter. I will report in due course.I think it is the same Oli as before but, as you say, with a different hair style (color is lighter now in these pics), different look with the new clothes and glamour posing. One way to find out before booking is if you can get a reply from her that her preferred nickname is "Poppy", then that is the same Oli as before.
ThailandBound
09-01-17, 10:10
I'm in BKK soon and very interested in trying this app to book an escort.
Are the prices correct?
I've selected 6 hour booking and been quoted prices considerably lower than stated on agency website.
Basically I'm asking what is the catch? Seems too good.
I've read on other fora that the virtual middleman function of Smooci somehow lowers the rates, but I haven't tried an agency or a Smooci yet so can't confirm.
I are commend you eniiy that six hour (booking and follow up with a detailed FR.
I'm in BKK soon and very interested in trying this app to book an escort.
Are the prices correct?
I've selected 6 hour booking and been quoted prices considerably lower than stated on agency website.
Basically I'm asking what is the catch? Seems too good.
One of the reviews which he posted is a review which I wrote on Smooci so I think he is 100% legit. Also it's disappointing reading Noey's reviews, was really hoping to book her when I get to Bangkok in 2 weeks.Noey is horrible. I tried her as well. She said no to almost everything and complained after 7 minutes of banging. The only positive was that she arrived in time, early even.
ThailandBound
09-02-17, 05:00
I certainly will make a FR in November.
I've tried a few agencies (absolute angels twice and gold) already, all worked out fine. The last one I had was actually Mayumi from the smooci app.
The agency was an easy process from initial email to getting that call from reception. 5 k for 2 hours or 10-12 k for 24 hours.
I've read on other fora that the virtual middleman function of Smooci somehow lowers the rates, but I haven't tried an agency or a Smooci yet so can't confirm.
I are commend you eniiy that six hour (booking and follow up with a detailed FR.
LewisCarrol
09-02-17, 05:35
Tried Emma last night for 3 hours (Will post FR in a day).
Prices are definitely correct. What you see is what you pay. Girls are same too, though the pics may be old or photo-shopped (please RTTF before booking someone). However, saw that agency pages had much more options than Smooci, though at higher price point. Maybe the ones not getting enough demand at agency page are put here. Allows them to target larger set of people, at lower price, without diluting the price on their page. Plus Smooci provides VAS like tracking etc.
Safe mongering,
LC.
I'm in BKK soon and very interested in trying this app to book an escort.
Are the prices correct?
I've selected 6 hour booking and been quoted prices considerably lower than stated on agency website.
Basically I'm asking what is the catch? Seems too good.
I've read on other fora that the virtual middleman function of Smooci somehow lowers the rates, but I haven't tried an agency or a Smooci yet so can't confirm.
I are commend you eniiy that six hour (booking and follow up with a detailed FR.LOL, does how they operate affect the way we cum or the whole session? I guess that is not important. Or maybe to you is.
WarmStone25
09-02-17, 14:07
I'm in BKK soon and very interested in trying this app to book an escort.
Are the prices correct?
I've selected 6 hour booking and been quoted prices considerably lower than stated on agency website.
Basically I'm asking what is the catch? Seems too good.I tried Smooci on my last visit to Bangkok. I did not see any catch. The girls in the photos turned up at my room at the required time. Both were a few years older than stated, otherwise ok. Best to take Premium membership and read all the reports. The prices were as stated on the Smooci website.
Noey is horrible. I tried her as well. She said no to almost everything and complained after 7 minutes of banging. The only positive was that she arrived in time, early even.According to the Smooci website, Noey is only 20 years old. Which means that she isn't yet that experienced.
Some guys like young, inexperienced women like her. But you need to be realistic about it and play her pussy the right way. Or else it won't go well for you and her.
If you want to have a porn-stud experience and really nail the hot chick with your dick, then I'd say that experienced ladies in their 30's are best for that.
Not every lady is best for every kind of experience. You need to know what you want and choose the lady accordingly.
Noey actually has a good rating of 4.1 on the Smooci website. And don't think this is guys lying about her. This is just guys who wanted something different from her, something that she was good at giving them.
According to the Smooci website, Noey is only 20 years old. Which means that she isn't yet that experienced.
Some guys like young, inexperienced women like her. But you need to be realistic about it and play her pussy the right way. Or else it won't go well for you and her.
If you want to have a porn-stud experience and really nail the hot chick with your dick, then I'd say that experienced ladies in their 30's are best for that.
Not every lady is best for every kind of experience. You need to know what you want and choose the lady accordingly.
Noey actually has a good rating of 4.1 on the Smooci website. And don't think this is guys lying about her. This is just guys who wanted something different from her, something that she was good at giving them.With all due respect, I completely disagree. First of all, a 4.1 Star rating on Smooci probably isn't good at all with regard to the issue of the girl delivering the services listed on her profile and likely doesn't reflect anything positive about what she is "giving" customers. Even the owner of Smooci has said he would stick to girls with 4.5 Star ratings or greater to better ensure accuracy on the services listed on their profiles. Considering the way Smooci handles their Star ratings, that girl could easily float to a small fraction on either side of a 4 Star rating on the strength of her youngish age alone, having virtually nothing to do with whether or not she has ever delivered half of the services she lists on her profile to any customer. Where the poster made his mistake, assuming the girl's actual delivery of the services she listed on her profile were important to him and it sure sounds like it is, was in choosing a girl with less than a 4. 5 Star rating, imo.
But, again, considering the way Smooci handles its Star rating system on its own site, it would be easy for a customer to make that mistake and assume a 4.1 Star rating is a good rating as far as delivery of services is concerned rather than her getting that rating simply because the girl is young, cute, punctual, presents a good first impression, has a wonderful personal story to tell about cheating drunk Thai boyfriends, how much she prefers farangs, must take care of her sick grandmother and a whole host of other issues having nothing whatsoever to do with her actually delivering the services listed on her profile. One would only know about Smooci's own recommendation on that issue if he reads these message boards thoroughly.
Second, a Thai girl who has the BALLS to approach and walk into a strange hotel to meet a man she's never laid eyes on for sex without even a mamasan or a drink server around to oversee, manage or protect her is definitely not "inexperienced" in any way, shape or form no matter what her age. And if it is true that such a girl shows up prepared NOT to even provide half the services she knowingly listed on her profile and/or balk at the pathetically simple task of merely laying there with her legs open for 7 minutes on the shrewdly calculated assumption that she can shrug off and deflect whatever fallout for such behavior would ensue from this farang stranger, then we're talking about a hardcore scammer, period, and not a delicate flower of a tender age too young to be expected to handle life and sex in the big city.
According to the Smooci website, Noey is only 20 years old. Which means that she isn't yet that experienced.
Some guys like young, inexperienced women like her. But you need to be realistic about it and play her pussy the right way. Or else it won't go well for you and her.
If you want to have a porn-stud experience and really nail the hot chick with your dick, then I'd say that experienced ladies in their 30's are best for that.
Not every lady is best for every kind of experience. You need to know what you want and choose the lady accordingly.
Noey actually has a good rating of 4.1 on the Smooci website. And don't think this is guys lying about her. This is just guys who wanted something different from her, something that she was good at giving them.Same sentiment.
Some specified guys wanted some extra service which the girls don't provide, and the guys will penalise her for that.
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With all due respect, I completely disagree. First of all, a 4.1 Star rating on Smooci probably isn't good at all with regard to the issue of the girl delivering the services listed on her profile and likely doesn't reflect anything positive about what she is "giving" customers. Even the owner of Smooci has said he would stick to girls with 4.5 Star ratings or greater to better ensure accuracy on the services listed on their profiles. Considering the way Smooci handles their Star ratings, that girl could easily float to a small fraction on either side of a 4 Star rating on the strength of her youngish age alone, having virtually nothing to do with whether or not she has ever delivered half of the services she lists on her profile to any customer ever. Where the poster made his mistake, assuming the girl's actual delivery of the services she listed on her profile were important to him and it sure sounds like it is, was in choosing a girl with less than a 4. 5 Star rating, imo.
But, again, considering the way Smooci handles its Star rating on its own site, it would be easy for a customer to make that mistake and assume a 4.1 Star rating is a good rating as far as delivery of services is concerned rather than her getting that rating simply because the girl is young, cute, punctual, presents a good first impression, has a wonderful personal story to tell about cheating drunk Thai boyfriends, how much she prefers farangs, must take care of her sick grandmother and a whole host of other issues having nothing whatsoever to do with her actually delivering the services listed on her profile..Not yet a consumer of a said product but comment on the product. LOLx.
Grandaddy Perp
09-03-17, 04:35
With all due respect, I completely disagree. First of all, a 4.1 Star rating on Smooci probably isn't good at all with regard to the issue of the girl delivering the services listed on her profile and likely doesn't reflect anything positive about what she is "giving" customers. Even the owner of Smooci has said he would stick to girls with 4.5 Star ratings or greater to better ensure accuracy on the services listed on their profiles. Considering the way Smooci handles their Star ratings, that girl could easily float to a small fraction on either side of a 4 Star rating on the strength of her youngish age alone, having virtually nothing to do with whether or not she has ever delivered half of the services she lists on her profile to any customer. Where the poster made his mistake, assuming the girl's actual delivery of the services she listed on her profile were important to him and it sure sounds like it is, was in choosing a girl with less than a 4. 5 Star rating, imo.
But, again, considering the way Smooci handles its Star rating system on its own site, it would be easy for a customer to make that mistake and assume a 4.1 Star rating is a good rating as far as delivery of services is concerned rather than her getting that rating simply because the girl is young, cute, punctual, presents a good first impression, has a wonderful personal story to tell about cheating drunk Thai boyfriends, how much she prefers farangs, must take care of her sick grandmother and a whole host of other issues having nothing whatsoever to do with her actually delivering the services listed on her profile. One would only know about Smooci's own recommendation on that issue if he reads these message boards thoroughly..Well said.
I think that there is some sort of misconceived notion of what smooci is.
All the app is doing is providing customers with a more convenient way to order up escorts and to potentially separate the best from the rest of a fairly limited pool but mostly in regards to accuracy of pics. It doesn't guarantee anything related to the services and looks of the ladies nor does it change the realities of the industry. The ratings are all provided by the users and as we know all too well YMMV.
Well said.
I think that there is some sort of misconceived notion of what smooci is.
All the app is doing is providing customers with a more convenient way to order up escorts and to potentially separate the best from the rest of a fairly limited pool but mostly in regards to accuracy of pics. It doesn't guarantee anything related to the services and looks of the ladies nor does it change the realities of the industry. The ratings are all provided by the users and as we know all too well YMMV.Exactly.
There is also another point to take in consideration. I've used smooci five times and I've given a rate each times. The next day, the girl's rate was different than her rate prior to my booking with each girls. That means that my rating had a real influence on the girl's global rate.
Now I'm regularly looking at smooci and I see a lot of girls with rates that doesn't change at all, some of these girls are the ones that I've met earlier. I see these girls available many times, disappear for some hours then reappear on smooci. I cannot believe that these girls are never chosen by any customer. So my conclusion is that a lot of customer do not even bother giving a rate after their session. As you said the rating helps to separate the providers in two categories: girls below 4.2 only for adventurous guys and girls over 4.2 that seems to be the best ones but we still have no guarantee that they will perform well or that their pic is accurate or not.
AngeloDeath
09-04-17, 02:33
Guys,
I need some help. Most of the girls on Smooci seem to be bad or reluctant at DFK from my experience. I am a premium member and most reviews don't really tell you if the girl is good or bad at DFK. Can anyone with prior experience with smooci girls point me in the direction of some girls who are good at DFK??
Not yet a consumer of a said product but comment on the product. LOLx.Actually, I have been a customer of at least three of the "product" I have seen featured on Smooci. Maybe more than that if I scan through their line up today and see another familiar face and body. Just not through Smooci or any other escort service. LOL. I got them when they were younger, slimmer and much cheaper than any discounted amount I have seen quoted on an online Escort-related service. One of the consistently top rated girls is someone I used to take from a portable bar set up on Sukhumvit back when they had more of them and it was all of 500 baht barfine and 1,000 baht to her for ST.
But as far as the Smooci service goes, what would one have to know from personal experience that contradicts what everyone can see is the way they handle and present their rating system that would lead you or anyone else to believe my observations of it aren't valid? In fact, my observation that one would be best to stick with girls rated 4.5 or greater if actual delivery of the services listed on their profiles really matters to you precisely matches that of the owner of Smooci. And I posted that observation weeks before he did. It is just one of those things anyone can easily figure out based on how the site is set up even if you have not actually typed in a booking and given someone your hotel room number.
The "experience" at issue is what one sees and reads on their website, whether or not it can tell you much regarding delivery of services listed, not anything whatsoever to do with what happens when you go through the booking process. I already know the various things likely to happen when a P4P girl shows up at your hotel room and the door shuts behind you. I don't believe my actually booking a girl through them is going to reveal something startlingly different I hadn't considered.
So, tell us, other than discovering exactly how long it takes for the girl to arrive to your room after you've made the online booking, how much back and forth communication between Smooci, your hotel and you is required to get it done, whether she was punctual or not, whether she expected more money than posted or not, what is it about Smooci's service and / or rating system has been misunderstood by those of us who have not actually booked through them? And where on their website might we get the clarification of that you believe you are privy to having booked through them while the rest of us are not?
Exactly.
There is also another point to take in consideration. I've used smooci five times and I've given a rate each times. The next day, the girl's rate was different than her rate prior to my booking with each girls. That means that my rating had a real influence on the girl's global rate.
Now I'm regularly looking at smooci and I see a lot of girls with rates that doesn't change at all, some of these girls are the ones that I've met earlier. I see these girls available many times, disappear for some hours then reappear on smooci. I cannot believe that these girls are never chosen by any customer. So my conclusion is that a lot of customer do not even bother giving a rate after their session. As you said the rating helps to separate the providers in two categories: girls below 4.2 only for adventurous guys and girls over 4.2 that seems to be the best ones but we still have no guarantee that they will perform well or that their pic is accurate or not.Thanks for your support.
Around 40% of users currently give ratings after a booking. But it's also worth to bear in mind that some of the girls have been on the platform for over 9 months and had a large amount of bookings, so a single rating may not make an immediate noticable difference, especially if that rating is close to her average, whereas with a new companion will see her rating change very noticably with each new rating.
We are very pleased with the way the rating system is now working and the large amount of positive feedback we are getting. It's not a perfect science, and some guys still book girls with very low ratings and have a great time, whilst you could also book a girl with a very high rating and find the chemistry isn't quite there, but we feel the rating and comments are still very useful to most users.
.... a Thai girl who has the BALLS to approach and walk into a strange hotel to meet a man she's never laid eyes on for sex without even a mamasan or a drink server around to oversee, manage or protect her is definitely not "inexperienced" in any way, shape or form no matter what her age. And if it is true that such a girl shows up prepared NOT to even provide half the services she knowingly listed on her profile and/or balk at the pathetically simple task of merely laying there with her legs open for 7 minutes ....Unfortunately, I used to think this way way too, before I learned better from my experience.
You don't know the truth, until you hear both sides. And the lady obviously isn't here to tell her side of the story.
I used to put on two condoms to make myself last longer with the lady. And I really pounded the chick with my dick. It was an enjoyable experience for me. And the lady let me do it too. Because I was giving her more money than most guys, and I was staying with her for my whole vacation. But later I found out that she was getting rubber burns and abrasions in her pussy and going to see the doctor once in a while, when she was with me.
The lady won't necessarily tell you the reason why she wants you to stop after a 7-minute ride. But chances are that she probably has a good reason for it.
Just because the lady is kind enough to have sex for money with you, doesn't mean that you can do whatever you want with her and treat her like a thing, rather than the human being she is.
The lady won't necessarily tell you the reason why she wants you to stop after a 7-minute ride. But chances are that she probably has a good reason for it.
Just because the lady is kind enough to have sex for money with you, doesn't mean that you can do whatever you want with her and treat her like a thing, rather than the human being she is.I doubt that many guys would be happy with such an experience. When you can fuck longer than a 7 minutes ride it's very frustrating to deal with a girl that wants you to stop. It might be ok if she was your girlfriend but certainly not if she is willingly taking your money in exchange of that short ride. The girl can open or close her application by herself in order to appear available or not on smooci. If she cannot be fucked she shouldn't be available. When she accepts a booking of 2 hours including two shots, it's a shame that she asks to stop after such a short time. I would certainly avoid any girl with such an attitude no matter what she looks like.
By the way, she is not kind with you when she has sex with you. She does it in exchange of a considerable amount of money. If she was kind she would do it for free for some guys, or would accept that some guys give her less money for any given reason. By reading reviews about her it appears that she had that attitude with many customers, so she is exactly the opposite of a kind girl, I would say that she looks very close to a scammer, at least her customers should know before booking her that she expects every guys to be very quick to finish.
Around 40% of users currently give ratings after a booking. But it's also worth to bear in mind that some of the girls have been on the platform for over 9 months and had a large amount of bookings, so a single rating may not make an immediate noticable difference, especially if that rating is close to her average, whereas with a new companion will see her rating change very noticably with each new rating.Thanks for your post.
It's true that the girls I've met did not appear on smooci from the beginning. They were there at most 2 or 3 months before I booked them, and at least one of them had very few bookings at the time I met her, so your explanation is pretty accurate in my opinion.
Unfortunately, I used to think this way way too, before I learned better from my experience.
You don't know the truth, until you hear both sides. And the lady obviously isn't here to tell her side of the story.
I used to put on two condoms to make myself last longer with the lady. And I really pounded the chick with my dick. It was an enjoyable experience for me. And the lady let me do it too. Because I was giving her more money than most guys, and I was staying with her for my whole vacation. But later I found out that she was getting rubber burns and abrasions in her pussy and going to see the doctor once in a while, when she was with me.
The lady won't necessarily tell you the reason why she wants you to stop after a 7-minute ride. But chances are that she probably has a good reason for it.
Just because the lady is kind enough to have sex for money with you, doesn't mean that you can do whatever you want with her and treat her like a thing, rather than the human being she is.Yes, I used to think the way you do now too until I learned better from my experience.
Of course, since neither of us was the punter who wrote the original report and neither of us is the girl and neither of us was sitting in that room to observe first hand, we don't know the truth or what her reasons were for balking at and refusing to provide "half" the services she listed on her profile and balking at enduring as much as 7 minutes of FS. But my experience in Thailand's P4P environment tells me when I hear that kind of report it was merely a typical scammer encounter and it no longer strikes me as so unusual as to lead me to assume anything else. Such as when a cowboy hears hoof beats outside his barn door he thinks of horses and has very little reason to stretch his imagination into thinking that might be a herd of zebras outside instead.
And there is more to consider here that leads me to my conclusion. A 20 y.o. girl that looks (in her pics at least) as perfectly acceptably attractive as the one in question who is only pulling a 4.1 Star rating is very likely NOT also honestly delivering the goods listed on her profile or her rating would be over 4.5, imo. It can't be that middling a rating just because she has been booked by a string of brutish, inconsiderate customers who expect too much of her.
Actually, I have been a customer of at least three of the "product" I have seen featured on Smooci. Just not through Smooci or any other escort service. LOL. Exactly what I mean LOL.
Grandaddy Perp
09-05-17, 05:06
Exactly.
There is also another point to take in consideration. I've used smooci five times and I've given a rate each times. The next day, the girl's rate was different than her rate prior to my booking with each girls. That means that my rating had a real influence on the girl's global rate.
Now I'm regularly looking at smooci and I see a lot of girls with rates that doesn't change at all, some of these girls are the ones that I've met earlier. I see these girls available many times, disappear for some hours then reappear on smooci. I cannot believe that these girls are never chosen by any customer. So my conclusion is that a lot of customer do not even bother giving a rate after their session. As you said the rating helps to separate the providers in two categories: girls below 4.2 only for adventurous guys and girls over 4.2 that seems to be the best ones but we still have no guarantee that they will perform well or that their pic is accurate or not.To add to my previous post and in response to yours and the discussion about ladies who may not offer some services even if its posted on their profile, the reality of the P4P industry is that its still up to the lady. They are after all human beings and just like everyone else, they have freedom to do whatever they want with their bodies. And they should have the right to make personal decisions based on any number of reasons, with some being that they just don't feel comfortable with the guy. I haven't delved into the premium membership of the site so I apologize if this exists but is there a profile system for customers where other users can view each others profiles and look at past reviews they've made? Are the ladies allowed to rate customers as well in order to provide them with some sort of protection? Do they have any type of option to refuse customers?
I think the access to user profiles and comment history can really be beneficial because there exists two very divisive groups within the sex monger scene. There are a good number of guys who see sex workers as underprivileged people and see themselves as white knights and any experience they have is amazing regardless of the level of service because they don't want to hurt the woman's business. They will skew the numbers higher than reality.
On the other hand, there are guys who are extremely cynical and see the women as things and can become quite bitter and have a superiority complex. They tend to have unrealistic expectations, can often be abusive, so they could then skew the numbers in a totally different direction and their comments can often be quite damaging, more so than the first group.
Being able to see these histories can help weed out the people who may not be giving accurate reviews.
Crocodilexp
09-05-17, 10:45
Around 40% of users currently give ratings after a booking. But it's also worth to bear in mind that some of the girls have been on the platform for over 9 months and had a large amount of bookings, so a single rating may not make an immediate noticable difference, especially if that rating is close to her average, whereas with a new companion will see her rating change very noticably with each new rating.Do you bias the ratings towards the more recent ones over the ones several months old?
I think that would be a good idea to both reflect degradation in service (girls do get lazy over time), as well as reward improvement (rare, but happens). If a girl has 10 ratings it may not matter (and could even arguably be unrepresentative by letting one sessions skew the result), but if she has 100, I sure care more about the recent ones than ones several months ago.
Do you bias the ratings towards the more recent ones over the ones several months old?
I think that would be a good idea to both reflect degradation in service (girls do get lazy over time), as well as reward improvement (rare, but happens). If a girl has 10 ratings it may not matter (and could even arguably be unrepresentative by letting one sessions skew the result), but if she has 100, I sure care more about the recent ones than ones several months ago.We do currently give bias to the most recent photo scores in order to determine accuracy of photos but we don't do it for ratings.
Premium members are able to see the review comments which also show the scores, so in that respect you can view some of the most recent scores and comments first, in the context of the overall rating. But what you are suggesting is a good idea, and something we will make note of for when we get to review the rating code again. Thanks.
Franciscass
09-05-17, 16:49
To add to my previous post and in response to yours and the discussion about ladies who may not offer some services even if its posted on their profile, the reality of the P4P industry is that its still up to the lady.I agree with a lot of what you say particularly as it refers to nut job customers but sorry no it's not up to her whether she delivers on a service offered on her profile. If she specifies say CIM then the customer is entitled to get CIM. That's part of what he paid for and may even be the chief reason he booked her.
Grandaddy Perp
09-06-17, 01:02
I agree with a lot of what you say particularly as it refers to nut job customers but sorry no it's not up to her whether she delivers on a service offered on her profile. If she specifies say CIM then the customer is entitled to get CIM. That's part of what he paid for and may even be the chief reason he booked her.Entitled may be a bit strong.
I think it's a standard business practice for anyone to have the right to refuse service for any reason and in the case of sex workers, health is a major factor. Say a girl shows up and the guy immediately shows signs of being an abuser or he isn't clean or he has a noticeable STD. All three are reasons to not provide some or any of the services, especially something like CIM or BBBJ.
Of course if the customer is none of these things and the girl is a scammer than yes he would be in the right to be upset but he's still not entitled to anything but refusal of payment. Forcing a person to commit a sexual act after they've decided not to do it and regardless of the initial agreement is [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). Pure and simple.
I agree with a lot of what you say particularly as it refers to nut job customers but sorry no it's not up to her whether she delivers on a service offered on her profile. If she specifies say CIM then the customer is entitled to get CIM. That's part of what he paid for and may even be the chief reason he booked her.I agree with you on that but also agree with GrandaddyPerp that it is up to the girl to decide if she will or will not honor and provide the listed services on her profile for a particular or, for that matter, any customer. The word for forcing a person to engage in sex against his/her will is not allowed on this site and will be "Coded". But we all know what it is.
However, her declining to provide those services would also mean she needs to refund or ought not to get some or any of the money amount that is also listed on her profile.
Fair is fair.
As it is cynical, unrealistic and abusive for a customer to regard the girl as nothing more than "meat" that must do his bidding, it is also cynical, unrealistic and abusive for the girl to regard the customer as nothing more than an "ATM" from which to withdraw 3,000+ baht even if she does not provide the listed services. Yep, even from the nut jobs. In fact, at a certain point, one could technically consider it "theft" for her not to voluntarily return the money or accept less or none of it without hassle and argument.
Exactly what I mean LOL.Ok. But you still have not provided any insight on why my actually personally going through the booking process via Smooci is required in order to, what, "validate" my asking questions and making comments about how the rating system works (or not) as it is presented on the website and about the typical or rather predictable behavior of Thai P4P girls and their customers. I have certainly watched the booking and after session rating process done by friends of mine so I know how that part of the deal works. I have even posted about what I observed here.
And, as I mentioned, I am very well versed on what can and usually does occur between a customer (potentially me) and a Thai P4P girl after she arrives at the room. Hmm. Seems to me there are lots of posters on this thread who have not yet booked though Smooci but have questions and comments to make before they do. I would think that is a major reason this thread was started in the first place.
Grandaddy Perp
09-06-17, 02:40
As it is cynical, unrealistic and abusive for a customer to regard the girl as nothing more than "meat" that must do his bidding, it is also cynical, unrealistic and abusive for the girl to regard the customer as nothing more than an "ATM" from which to withdraw 3,000+ baht even if she does not provide the listed services. Yep, even from the nut jobs. In fact, at a certain point, one could technically consider it "theft" for her not to voluntarily return the money or accept less or none of it without hassle and argument.A key thing that should be realized, especially in the light of how an app like Smooci may portray the ladies and their services, the scene isn't regulated. It's still illegal. There are no civil organizations that monitor health or business practices. But, we are seeing a shift in both regulation and a growing concern for health among the workers.
More and more are becoming quite health conscience. BBBJ and CIM services are actually on the decline across the industry. A+ services are also way down. In addition, standard services have also changed. This can be based on a number of factors including a shift in customer base (Asians), governments cracking down on the industry, and the inflation of Bangkok entertainment industry as a whole. The internet has also had a massive influence as more and more ladies are able to FL which has taken the whole 'ST' business model and turned into more of a fast food type system.
So, apps like Smooci can add a certain level of regulation in that it can be used as a soft guide to vet ladies and it will be interesting to see if this sort of system works out in the long run. But I think it may be foolish to assume that one app will change the mindset of Thai sex workers in that they see it as such a value to their business that they make a concerted effort to reach and maintain 4.5 or above. I think that for the most part, they have learned that beauty, especially on social media is the money maker.
Franciscass
09-10-17, 04:50
Entitled may be a bit strong.
I think it's a standard business practice for anyone to have the right to refuse service for any reason and in the case of sex workers, health is a major factor. Say a girl shows up and the guy immediately shows signs of being an abuser or he isn't clean or he has a noticeable STD. All three are reasons to not provide some .I may have understood your initial post on a girl having the right to refuse a service listed on her profile. Of course if there is a legitimate health reason such as an obvious infection in no way should she put herself at risk.
PassinThrough
09-17-17, 04:02
It has been a while, a long while, since I have posted. I finally made it back to Bangkok a few weeks ago and decided to try out Smooci. I like the concept and it makes things easy but as with any escorts you don't always get what you expect.
I ended up going with 3 girls:
Nara. Heavier that pictured. Was somewhat passive but did a nice BBBJ. 5 out of 10.
Opal. Again a little heavier than in the picture and the face does not match the pic well, looks like it was photo shopped. Pretty passive, 6 out of 10.
Finally I booked Cherry. She is pretty close to her pictures and was the best of the three. Did not want to shower together but was open to trying different positions and was a lot of fun. I would give her an 8 out of 10.
Did not have much time but went to Soi Cowboy two nights. Didn't take anyone home but hit some of the bars and CH was definitely the best with the best looking talent and a lot more energy than any other place on SC, at least when I went there.
I have checked out Smooci a little in the last few days and the number of girls seems to be declining. One I have heard mentioned as good don't seem to be on there any longer and where my search used to turn up about 80 girls I now see only 40 or about the same time of day. This seems consistent for the last several days. Not sure what is going on.
It has been a while, a long while, since I have posted. I finally made it back to Bangkok a few weeks ago and decided to try out Smooci. I like the concept and it makes things easy but as with any escorts you don't always get what you expect.
I ended up going with 3 girls:
Nara. Heavier that pictured. Was somewhat passive but did a nice BBBJ. 5 out of 10.
Opal. Again a little heavier than in the picture and the face does not match the pic well, looks like it was photo shopped. Pretty passive, 6 out of 10.
Finally I booked Cherry. She is pretty close to her pictures and was the best of the three. Did not want to shower together but was open to trying different positions and was a lot of fun. I would give her an 8 out of 10.
Did not have much time but went to Soi Cowboy two nights. Didn't take anyone home but hit some of the bars and CH was definitely the best with the best looking talent and a lot more energy than any other place on SC, at least when I went there.
I have checked out Smooci a little in the last few days and the number of girls seems to be declining. One I have heard mentioned as good don't seem to be on there any longer and where my search used to turn up about 80 girls I now see only 40 or about the same time of day. This seems consistent for the last several days. Not sure what is going on.The advantage at CH, is you find out exactly what the girl looks like beforehand, face and full body. Don't have to take any girls that look just 5 or 6 out of 10. Pick one of the hot ones. Then have her sit on your lap for a while, evaluate chemistry and chat before deciding to buy. That is the big attraction for me. Escorts is more of a lucky dip. The chances the girl really meets my fussy spec might be only 10% at best.
PassinThrough
09-17-17, 16:37
The advantage at CH, is you find out exactly what the girl looks like beforehand, face and full body. Don't have to take any girls that look just 5 or 6 out of 10. Pick one of the hot ones. Then have her sit on your lap for a while, evaluate chemistry and chat before deciding to buy. That is the big attraction for me. Escorts is more of a lucky dip. The chances the girl really meets my fussy spec might be only 10% at best.I have to agree, maybe a little higher than 10% but not much. The benefit about escorts is that you can be laying in bed and decide you want to have some fun and call up and get delivery. It is like take out food, if you pardon the analogy, it is never as good as eating at the restaurant (not hot, more expensive, etc.) but it is convenient. Smooci just makes that even easier, but they need to be a bit more conscious of having the pictures updated and accurate. Maybe a date when the pictures were updated, not perfect but a start.
P.S. In my previous post I meant Naris and not Nara.
It has been a while, a long while, since I have posted. I finally made it back to Bangkok a few weeks ago and decided to try out Smooci. I like the concept and it makes things easy but as with any escorts you don't always get what you expect.
I ended up going with 3 girls:
Nara. Heavier that pictured. Was somewhat passive but did a nice BBBJ. 5 out of 10.
Opal. Again a little heavier than in the picture and the face does not match the pic well, looks like it was photo shopped. Pretty passive, 6 out of 10.
Finally I booked Cherry. She is pretty close to her pictures and was the best of the three. Did not want to shower together but was open to trying different positions and was a lot of fun. I would give her an 8 out of 10.
Did not have much time but went to Soi Cowboy two nights. Didn't take anyone home but hit some of the bars and CH was definitely the best with the best looking talent and a lot more energy than any other place on SC, at least when I went there.
I have checked out Smooci a little in the last few days and the number of girls seems to be declining. One I have heard mentioned as good don't seem to be on there any longer and where my search used to turn up about 80 girls I now see only 40 or about the same time of day. This seems consistent for the last several days. Not sure what is going on.Thanks for your reviews. I'm curious though how your ratings of the girls correlated with Smooci's ratings. For example, of the three did Cherry have the highest ratings with Smooci, with the other two girls at lower ratings? I realize it is only one guy's opinion and tastes differ, but it would be good to get some feedback (from you and others who use the service) as to whether one can rely on the ratings, even if only to some extent.
PassinThrough
09-17-17, 19:18
Thanks for your reviews. I'm curious though how your ratings of the girls correlated with Smooci's ratings. For example, of the three did Cherry have the highest ratings with Smooci, with the other two girls at lower ratings? I realize it is only one guy's opinion and tastes differ, but it would be good to get some feedback (from you and others who use the service) as to whether one can rely on the ratings, even if only to some extent.Cherry on Smooci is a 4. 6.
Opal on Smooci is a 4. 4.
Naris on Smooci is a 4. 3.
So they line up in the order I would rate them but I would not give them such high marks. None of them were completely different than their pictures, though the pictures were either older or touched up, and they were all nice but a little to passive for me.
PIT.
I realize it is only one guy's opinion and tastes differ, but it would be good to get some feedback (from you and others who use the service) as to whether one can rely on the ratings, even if only to some extent.I did it a few times and I was disappointed almost every time. The only girl that I liked was the one with the lowest average rating amongst the girls that I booked (she was rated at 4.4 while the others were around 4.8). My disappointment was due to girls being different than their pics or not good looking at all. So I would say that you cannot rely on the ratings if the look is important to you. Regarding the service, I did not ask much but at least all of them were nice and friendly.
WarmStone25
09-18-17, 18:07
It appears as if the picture verification has been removed. So, the only way to know if photos are accurate is to read the reports. It appears, to me, not enough customers report directly on this, or on the accuracy of the stated age. Customers reports appear to be more concerned about that they had a good session. My impression, from reading through reports, is that maybe to many ratings of 5 are given, when even for a good session a 4 would be more accurate. It appears to me that you need to read all the reports, and to form an impression from this, as well as look at the rating which may be overstated. At one point I noted 70 or more girls available, but this does not appear to be the case any more. If the accuracy of reporting and rating was to improve then this would increase the value of the system. I watch with interest to see if the accuracy of photos improves.
It appears as if the picture verification has been removed. So, the only way to know if photos are accurate is to read the reports. It appears, to me, not enough customers report directly on this, or on the accuracy of the stated age. Customers reports appear to be more concerned about that they had a good session. My impression, from reading through reports, is that maybe to many ratings of 5 are given, when even for a good session a 4 would be more accurate. It appears to me that you need to read all the reports, and to form an impression from this, as well as look at the rating which may be overstated. At one point I noted 70 or more girls available, but this does not appear to be the case any more. If the accuracy of reporting and rating was to improve then this would increase the value of the system. I watch with interest to see if the accuracy of photos improves.This may not be exactly on point to what WarmStone has written, but it is related. I don't know what percentage of users are premium members as opposed to regular members but I would suppose by only allowing premium members to read the review comments regular members would be disinclined to leave their own comments, particularly once they realize they can leave reviews but cannot read them. I know I wouldn't take the time to leave a review if I were not allowed to access reviews left by others.
My impression, from reading through reports, is that maybe to many ratings of 5 are given, when even for a good session a 4 would be more accurate. It appears to me that you need to read all the reports, and to form an impression from this, as well as look at the rating which may be overstated. At one point I noted 70 or more girls available, but this does not appear to be the case any more. If the accuracy of reporting and rating was to improve then this would increase the value of the system. I watch with interest to see if the accuracy of photos improves.The readers of ISG are actually privy to an exclusive bit of critical intel on this issue of more objective Service Delivery vs more subjective Appearance/Impression from the one person who has most certainly read every essay review and comment for every girl, assessed every rating given, read every email-feedback complaint or compliment and therefore has a better handle on which girls to choose if looking for good service separate from whatever positive (or negative) write-ups you might pay to read in the essay-type comments. That would be the owner of the Smooci site himself.
Post #317:
"We follow several forums, analyse the user comments, and get private feedback to us. Based on this info we are very confident that the ratings work and a high rating (4. 5 and above) points towards good sevices, where as a low rating (3. 5 and below) suggests a poor performer."
Post #321:
"Again, based on the sum of all feedback we are confident that a high rating of 4. 5 and above points to good service, while 3. 5 and below does not."
To my knowledge, that valuable and useful intel on the upside/downside breaking points in the Star Ratings re service (rather than on a host of other potential issues) has not appeared on any other site like this one or even on the Smooci site itself. We are the only ones who have read the Smooci site's owner state it so clearly and specifically. And to readers here who appreciate having been gifted with that bit of exclusive intel, I say, "You're welcome."
I use Smocci about 10 times in the past. Most time the photos of the girls are old or photoshoped, but the session with the girls were most time good.
I use Smocci about 10 times in the past. Most time the photos of the girls are old or photoshoped, but the session with the girls were most time good.How can we as normal people expect a lady to be exactly the same as the pic shown in the site.
- All celebrities look 20-30% from their real person with make up and those cover pic for magazine.
- Most escorts take studio pic with pro make up artists hairstylist. Expect the same for every bookings? .
- ever see those net idol when they doing their stunts and when they are off set but still with make up (they look different too).
I use Smocci about 10 times in the past. Most time the photos of the girls are old or photoshoped, but the session with the girls were most time good.Women always try to look their best, even when you meet them in person. That's what make-up and push-up bras are for.
This is something only for the inexperienced guys to be upset about. Because when you are inexperienced with women, then you are still very experienced with looking at women in porn and in other ways. And that's why looks are so important for the inexperienced guy.
But once you get to know a good number of women in bed, then you get to know these women with your hands, your body, your mouth, and your cock. Sex is more about touching and feeling, than looking. Most of your pleasure comes from touching the lady and banging her with your cock, rather than from looking at her. The lady's looks play a role too. But they definitely aren't the only source of pleasure anymore, when you are nailing her.
I can say from my own experience that I've learned to like a much wider range in women's looks, after I got to know a good number of women with my cock and not just with my eyes.
The lady might not look like much at first. But you can get to like her with your hands, your mouth, and cock so much, that you'll be coming back to nail her again and again.
And that's what I gather has happened to you. You've kept coming back to Smoocci 10 times. And now you feel that most of your sessions with these ladies were good.
Looks aren't everything. How the lady feels in your arms, with her nipple inside your mouth, and with your cock inside her pussy is important too.
Women always try to look their best, even when you meet them in person. That's what make-up and push-up bras are for.
This is something only for the inexperienced guys to be upset about. Because when you are inexperienced with women, then you are still very experienced with looking at women in porn and in other ways. And that's why looks are so important for the inexperienced guy.
But once you get to know a good number of women in bed, then you get to know these women with your hands, your body, your mouth, and your cock. Sex is more about touching and feeling, than looking. Most of your pleasure comes from touching the lady and banging her with your cock, rather than from looking at her. The lady's looks play a role too. But they definitely aren't the only source of pleasure anymore, when you are nailing her.
I can say from my own experience that I've learned to like a much wider range in women's looks, after I got to know a good number of women with my cock and not just with my eyes..Totally agreed with you mate.
Dion Cassius
10-01-17, 20:58
Totally agreed with you mate.I reluctantly agree: I am still (foolishly) very influenced by the looks but experience has taught me a different lesson. For example the least good looking (but still attractive) girl I have fucked in Istanbul was awesome at making me come.
I reluctantly agree: I am still (foolishly) very influenced by the looks but experience has taught me a different lesson. For example the least good looking (but still attractive) girl I have fucked in Istanbul was awesome at making me come.Sadly to say, many real adults are still blinded by the fantasy they got from online sexy pics and porn vidz.
Go see those porn stars or celebrities without make up or minimum make up, they are no difference from the plain Jane on the streets.
Wondering what the experts here recommend in terms of non-soapy massage parlors in Pattaya? It seems all the research for Pattaya recommends the same 4-5 soapy parlors in Pattaya. Are there any parlors akin to something like Honey Bee Massage in Bangkok? Or is the standard m-o just to go into any oil massage and ask for more services during the massage?
I'm planning on staying in Blue Sky Hotel for its proximity to the soapy's, but I'm wondering if there's a better location for clusters of parlors and what not?
SamSydney1980
10-13-17, 19:09
Has anyone tried Colina from Elite Bangkok Escorts. She's available through Smooci. Any info on her would be greatly appreciated.
My PM is active.
Cheers. Sam.
Wondering what the experts here recommend in terms of non-soapy massage parlors in Pattaya? It seems all the research for Pattaya recommends the same 4-5 soapy parlors in Pattaya. Are there any parlors akin to something like Honey Bee Massage in Bangkok? Or is the standard m-o just to go into any oil massage and ask for more services during the massage?I think you guys don't quite understand. This is the Smooci Advertiser thread. It is intended for questions or comments about how the Smooci booking system works. It's not about MPs, Pattaya, pornstars looks, or whether stunners or plain girls provide better service, or even about particular girls, who just happened to be available through Smoochi at some point. There is also an Escorts thread for girl information or questions. Smooci is here to facilitate booking girls in a short time frame. So please don't fill this thread with other random topics. Make comments about Smooci or ask questions about Smooci for the people who run Smooci to answer.
So it's about facilitating Escort Bookings, through Smooci, or compare Smooci pros and cons to other ways. There I lost count of how many times I mentioned Smooci to try to make it sink in.
O.K. We all know guys go off on tangents at times, but try to be reasonably relevant. This thread, unlike some others, has a very specific topic.
I think you guys don't quite understand. This is the Smooci Advertiser thread. It is intended for questions or comments about how the Smooci booking system works. It's not about MPs, Pattaya, pornstars looks, or whether stunners or plain girls provide better service, or even about particular girls, who just happened to be available through Smoochi at some point. There is also an Escorts thread for girl information or questions. Smooci is here to facilitate booking girls in a short time frame. So please don't fill this thread with other random topics. Make comments about Smooci or ask questions about Smooci for the people who run Smooci to answer.
So it's about facilitating Escort Bookings, through Smooci, or compare Smooci pros and cons to other ways. There I lost count of how many times I mentioned Smooci to try to make it sink in.
O.K. We all know guys go off on tangents at times, but try to be reasonably relevant. This thread, unlike some others, has a very specific topic.Exactly mate.
MusicalToM
10-14-17, 09:55
Has anyone tried Colina from Elite Bangkok Escorts. She's available through Smooci. Any info on her would be greatly appreciated.
My PM is active.
Cheers. Sam.There was a report about her sometime back, I tried finding but couldn't get it.
I remember, it was reported she looked much older than her picture and performance was average. FYI, she is available on Smooci from a long time and if you want to more about her reviews from actual customers, feel free to get Smooci VIP / Premium subscription.
Enjoy!
Skywards747
10-14-17, 17:34
Has anyone tried Colina from Elite Bangkok Escorts. She's available through Smooci. Any info on her would be greatly appreciated.
My PM is active.
Cheers. Sam.Sorry my PM is not active, so I will answer your question here about Colina, if I may.
I just had my second session with her through Smooci. To be honest, when I saw her for the first time, I was little disappointed as she didn't look like her photos, then which Thai working girl does? She is probably not the prettiest girl in town but she has an amazing attitude towards making you, the customer as happy as possible. Her techniques are flawless and her massage between the sessions are professional quality. Her English is more than adequate and within minutes of meeting her, you will feel like you are with an old friend. I recommend her very highly but then again YMMV.
SamSydney1980
10-16-17, 05:25
Thanks mate. Appreciate your response.
Sorry my PM is not active, so I will answer your question here about Colina, if I may.
I just had my second session with her through Smooci. To be honest, when I saw her for the first time, I was little disappointed as she didn't look like her photos, then which Thai working girl does? She is probably not the prettiest girl in town but she has an amazing attitude towards making you, the customer as happy as possible. Her techniques are flawless and her massage between the sessions are professional quality. Her English is more than adequate and within minutes of meeting her, you will feel like you are with an old friend. I recommend her very highly but then again YMMV.
SamSydney1980
10-16-17, 05:59
Thanks Buddy. I could not find much info on her on this thread except for a report by Sammy1968 a few pages back on this thread where he has reviewed a few girls.
There was a report about her sometime back, I tried finding but couldn't get it.
I remember, it was reported she looked much older than her picture and performance was average. FYI, she is available on Smooci from a long time and if you want to more about her reviews from actual customers, feel free to get Smooci VIP / Premium subscription.
Enjoy!
Member #4591
10-16-17, 06:27
I booked Venus on Smooci. She is listed with My Princess Bangkok and New Bangkok escorts. Photos attached from both their sites and both linking to Smooci. I'm sure this is the same agency with two sites and two different names. Her rating was 3. 2 or 3. 8 and normally this might be a red flag but I'm normally good with these types of girls. This was my 3rd time booking through Smooci and the service this time was excellent. The agency called me 3 times and also confirmed by SMS multiple times. When Venus arrived, I was happy with her looks and body. After a shared shower we moved to the bed. Shower was mechanical with no BJ, she just cleaned me up. Warning sign. We spoke together in Thai and then she started giving me a BBBJ, asking me before if I wanted condom or not. This didn't last too long as I wanted to taste that nice pussy. I flipped her over and tried all my techniques but she would not cum. At one point I thought she was almost there but I think it was some bad acting. After giving up, I moved to enter her in mish after being reminded of the comdom multiple times. I use a Japanese brand in a silver box with 003 written on the box with black letters. They are very thin as I can't cum with other brands. After putting on the condom, I tried to enter her but she stopped me. She started inspecting the condom from top to bottom. This lasted for a good 5 minutes, which really ruined the mood. Mish position was getting boring as I was just turned off by the condom fiasco so I flipped her over and really fucked her hard in doggy until finish. The two hours was no where near up but she wanted to go and I let her. Now I understand why her rating was lower than most of the girls. Mechanical, worried, and never stays the full session. Girls can be cautious about condoms and such, this is no problem. But when we call an escort, we want the session to be enjoyable and we want the girl to at least pretend she's having a good time and enjoys her job. There are ways to do this kind of stuff and still make the customer feel like you enjoy your job. On a side note. This girl was so serious and uptight, she asked me to book her a taxi on Grab. As I booked the taxi I said please wait as no driver has answered yet. After I booked the taxi, 2 showed up asking for me downstairs. She had also booked one without saying. Just happy to get her out. Damage was 3,000 Baht. No tip. Must pay before the session begins.
I arrive in BKK in about 10 days time and I am spending a couple of days staying in the lower Suk before going to Hua Hin.
Many of the girls on Smooci look gorgeous but Photoshop may have helped in that department.
Would BMs recommend I take out the 3 day Premium membership of Smooci to increase the chance of getting the right girl and service levels for my needs?
MusicalToM
10-20-17, 17:25
I arrive in BKK in about 10 days time and I am spending a couple of days staying in the lower Suk before going to Hua Hin.
Many of the girls on Smooci look gorgeous but Photoshop may have helped in that department.
Would BMs recommend I take out the 3 day Premium membership of Smooci to increase the chance of getting the right girl and service levels for my needs?Few things to remember before booking an escort:
1- All the so called Escorts are not what you see them in Photo. I can guarantee 99% of the time you'll see a complete different lady from her photos. So be prepared for that.
2- They charge more and most of time their service is good based on the feedback ratings.
3- If an escort asks you money upfront, reject them at once without paying any taxi fee or such BS thing.
4- In general, if you cancel an escort after she arrives at your room as cancellation fee applies. You can minimize it by arguing but it might bring down your mood on occasions.
5- What you read in their description is what you get. No surprises unlike GoGo girls where you can find a starfish in bed.
Choose what suits you best and decide. Feel free to shoot if any queries you have but before that read previous few pages.
Does anyone know if post-op ladyboys are listed under the "female" section?
Not hating. Just not my preference.
Is there a Smooci android app? I do not see one in the play store. Other posters have mentioned getting SMS messages, but I don't see any field on the online site for phone numbers. Wondering if it is purposely hidden.
Hermescali
10-23-17, 06:45
I think I haven't posted here for 10 years. And I am restarting with a question. I invited a Kenyan of Indian origin to Thailand. Her dream is a wild threesome with a ladyboy. Meaning, it fucks her, I fuck it. Would smooci be the right platform to look for that or is a googo the better choice.
Crocodilexp
10-23-17, 07:15
I think I haven't posted here for 10 years. And I am restarting with a question. I invited a Kenyan of Indian origin to Thailand. Her dream is a wild threesome with a ladyboy. Meaning, it fucks her, I fuck it. Would smooci be the right platform to look for that or is a googo the better choice.With ladyboys, you definitely have to establish they are comfortable fucking a woman, and more importantly, capable of getting erect. Hormones that many ladyboys take regularly could make getting an erection difficult. Pills like Viagra / Sidegra might help, but not in every case.
Not sure if you can discuss this with a provider on Smocci beforehand to satisfactory level of detail. For what you're trying to do, probably better to arrange it in person, plus you'll have a better chance to gauge the chemistry between all 3 participants.
I think I haven't posted here for 10 years. And I am restarting with a question. I invited a Kenyan of Indian origin to Thailand. Her dream is a wild threesome with a ladyboy. Meaning, it fucks her, I fuck it. Would smooci be the right platform to look for that or is a googo the better choice.I suspect the moderators do not approve of this topic. This is a Hetero site only. although discussion about bi-sexual ladies seems to be no problem.
WarmStone25
10-23-17, 22:47
I arrive in BKK in about 10 days time and I am spending a couple of days staying in the lower Suk before going to Hua Hin.
Many of the girls on Smooci look gorgeous but Photoshop may have helped in that department.
Would BMs recommend I take out the 3 day Premium membership of Smooci to increase the chance of getting the right girl and service levels for my needs?Smooci reports.
My observation of reports from customers on girls with ratings of 4. 5 or above is that; it is probably worth sticking with girls with a rating of 4. 5 and above, and it is worth reading all of the reports and forming an impression from this, and it is probably worth reading the reports of some girls with poor ratings so that you can see what you are missing, and most of the reports do not refer to accuracy of pictures or age, and most of the reports are concise consisting of one or two short sentences with few negative comments, and some reports about girls with very high ratings are more fulsome with no negative comments and no reference to accuracy of pictures or age. It would appear the most important factors are, performance in the room, and the girl is presentable when she turns up at the door, the girl at the door is the girl in the photos, and the girl is not to far removed from the girl in the photos in terms of age or appearance. It is worth taking out a memebership.
Does anyone know if post-op ladyboys are listed under the "female" section?
Not hating. Just not my preference.If I not wrong, the post op lb will be posted in the ladyboys section too but listed as Post-ops.
Ultimately they still not a female by origin so will not will listed in female section in my own opinion.
Is there a Smooci android app? I do not see one in the play store. Other posters have mentioned getting SMS messages, but I don't see any field on the online site for phone numbers. Wondering if it is purposely hidden.I don't think there is any app. Neither Apple nor Google would allow an app like this in their stores.
There is only the website, smooci.com, which is mobile friendly and can be easily accessed through your phone, provided that you have an Internet connection.
Skywards747
10-27-17, 14:04
I had the pleasure of meeting this lovely lady recently, booked through Smooci. She is one of the highest rated on that site.
She looks exactly as her pictures and all the accolades given to her in Smooci reviews (you need paid premium to read those reviews) are true.
Kate is very pretty and performs very well in bed. I found her to be more sophisticated than an average Thai working girl as she is well traveled (on her own) and speaks English well.
A couple of things that prevented me from giving her full marks on my Smooci review were firstly, she was little pre-occupied during the whole time she was with me stressing about making her next appointment as the agency had booked her back to back with another client. Eventually, I let her go with 30 minutes to go on my 3 hour booking. Secondly, most girls would give you a nice massage between the sessions (Another higher rated Smooci girl, Colina gives an excellent massage) but Kate just talked. While a massage was not advertised nor expected, it would have been a nice touch.
StarMariner
10-27-17, 21:18
Hi,
I saw no facility in the Smooci website to order two bi / lesbian girls. Can I do this with Smooci or am I missing something?
Any insight gratefully received.
Thanks.
Hi,
I saw no facility in the Smooci website to order two bi / lesbian girls. Can I do this with Smooci or am I missing something?
Any insight gratefully received.
Thanks.At the moment we don't facilitate duo bookings. Working on a live availability system, with GPS tracking, and using girls from a number of different agencies, it makes it very difficult to allow for duo bookings.
It is possible to simply make 2 seperate bookings for 2 different girls at the same time and location, but you should first contact a chosen agency and find out which girls work well together, and then make it clear on the booking notes that the booking is part of a duo booking.
SamSydney1980
10-29-17, 20:22
Hey Buddy, does Colina and Kate smoke? Was thinking of trying one of them but I need to know if they smoke or not.
Cheers.
I had the pleasure of meeting this lovely lady recently, booked through Smooci. She is one of the highest rated on that site.
She looks exactly as her pictures and all the accolades given to her in Smooci reviews (you need paid premium to read those reviews) are true.
Kate is very pretty and performs very well in bed. I found her to be more sophisticated than an average Thai working girl as she is well traveled (on her own) and speaks English well.
A couple of things that prevented me from giving her full marks on my Smooci review were firstly, she was little pre-occupied during the whole time she was with me stressing about making her next appointment as the agency had booked her back to back with another client. Eventually, I let her go with 30 minutes to go on my 3 hour booking. Secondly, most girls would give you a nice massage between the sessions (Another higher rated Smooci girl, Colina gives an excellent massage) but Kate just talked. While a massage was not advertised nor expected, it would have been a nice touch.
Skywards747
11-07-17, 22:19
Hey Buddy, does Colina and Kate smoke? Was thinking of trying one of them but I need to know if they smoke or not.
Cheers.Hi,
Sorry for the late response. To answer your query, neither of them smoked during our sessions nor smelled of any smoking odors. While I never discussed smoking habits with Colina, Kate may have mentioned that she is an occasional smoker. Hope this helps.
SamSydney1980
11-08-17, 06:37
Thanks very much. Appreciate your response.
Cheers.
Hi,
Sorry for the late response. To answer your query, neither of them smoked during our sessions nor smelled of any smoking odors. While I never discussed smoking habits with Colina, Kate may have mentioned that she is an occasional smoker. Hope this helps.
Hi,
Has anyone tried Lucia from ThaiEscortsBangkok? It would be fantastic if someone who tried her reported. I saw her ratings fluctuate.
I will be in Bangkok in few days and I am kinda shortlisting! : the.
Hello guys,
Ill be traveling from another country and won't have a Thai phone number. Will I need one for smooci or can I use something like Line? Also is it safe to DFK or BBBJ with these girls? Thanks.
During my last BKK visit I have been using Smooci 3 times during less than a week and I was pleasantly surprised with the user friendliness and the smooth procedures.
I'm not going to look in previous reports but I do think that you need a Thai telephone number in order to use Smooci so in case you don't have a Thai tel number just buy it when you arrive at the airport. It barely cost you money. I purchased a 100 Bath tourist number with a data package for 1 week from AIS which did the trick for me. I have used True before which performed equally well.
Anyway going back to Smooci I'm sure you can help yourself out with the Smooci app. Once you have chosen the time and duration you want to spend with your lovebird you need to fill in your name, hotel name and room number. It also mentions something like special request for let's say in case you would be happy to let her bring some sexy lingerie, giving you a massage, etc. Even though it can't be guaranteed.
Once this is done then Smooci asks to enter your local telephone number and you will receive an OTP code that you have to fill in. You receive the code practically instantly. Once you fill in the code you will receive another message on your phone with the message that "Your Booking with "Lovebirds name" is pending".
After a few minutes you will receive a telephone call either via the telephone you have in your room or your mobile phone in case you're not around in your hotel room asking for confirmation. When confirmed you will receive another message that mentions that "the booking with your bird has been confirmed".
About one hour before she arrives you will get the notification that your "Bird is on the way". Now when you have a premium membership you can track where she is but as I was not keen to purchase the upgrade I just trusted that she was on her way. Of the three experiences I had, one came right on time, another one was 15 minutes earlier than planned and my last one came 1. 30 h late. LOL.
As I only have used Smooci for the time I can't tell that this type of lateness is common or not but I would assume that this is an exception rather than the rule. On the other hand I have never used the services of escort agencies before.
As I didn't wanted to pay for a premium membership I wasn't able to read the reviews so I picked girls that had at least a score above 4. 5 (Worra 4. 6, Cake 4. 7, Natt 4. 7) and all performed accordingly or lets say that I was happy with the room services they have provided.
Of these three girls I have met I would say that they looked quite similar with the Smooci pictures published. I would say around 75% accurate which isn't a bad score. If you see pictures on Tinder or other dating apps and how the girl is in real life then the vast majority look greater on those pictures than in real life.
When the session is over you receive another message on your phone with the notification that "The booking with your bird has completed". It also mentions that you can leave a review of your bird. Can't remember exactly how it went but if I'm not mistaken then they ask you first whether the pictures published on Smooci are similar with how the girl is in real life and you can tick on a simple YES or NO. If I would change something then, rather than ticking yes or no I would be more happy to have a rate from 0 to 10 with the zero meaning that she doesn't look like the picture at all and a ten being exactly the way she looks like in real life.
Nothing wrong to give an overall score of the girl. However, I would be happy to look at some sub scores about each service she's providing (I. E. BBBJ, CIM, Rimming, DFK, etc.) I would also be interested that she likes to DATY or not. Not sure that there are other services that might turn on customers. One of those escorts was rather submissive and was into soft bondage. In fact, when I asked her what she likes she mentioned that she was keen to play with toys which she didn't have with her which if I would have knew I would definitely requested the agency to let her bring her toys.
All in all a good experience. Might use it again in the future.
As I didn't wanted to pay for a premium membership I wasn't able to read the reviews
When the session is over you receive another message on your phone with the notification that "The booking with your bird has completed". It also mentions that you can leave a review of your bird.Seems odd that you can't read reviews but you can write them even without a premium membership. Were you allowed to score your girls?
On another note I notice April of Bangkokescort.com listed on Smooci for 5000 baht, the same price as being booked from the agency.
https://bangkokescort.com/girls/april/
During my last BKK visit I have been using Smooci 3 times during less than a week and I was pleasantly surprised with the user friendliness and the smooth procedures.
I'm not going to look in previous reports but I do think that you need a Thai telephone number in order to use Smooci so in case you don't have a Thai tel number just buy it when you arrive at the airport. It barely cost you money. I purchased a 100 Bath tourist number with a data package for 1 week from AIS which did the trick for me. I have used True before which performed equally well.
Anyway going back to Smooci I'm sure you can help yourself out with the Smooci app. Once you have chosen the time and duration you want to spend with your lovebird you need to fill in your name, hotel name and room number. It also mentions something like special request for let's say in case you would be happy to let her bring some sexy lingerie, giving you a massage, etc. Even though it can't be guaranteed.
Once this is done then Smooci asks to enter your local telephone number and you will receive an OTP code that you have to fill in. You receive the code practically instantly. Once you fill in the code you will receive another message on your phone with the message that "Your Booking with "Lovebirds name" is pending"..Glad to hear good rep on 'Cake'. Maybe ill book her with 'Beer'!
The free app use allows 2 HR min booking, which generally includes 2 shots; a 6 HR booking is often 2 shots too. Seems a bit parsimonious for 3 x as long.
Seems odd that you can't read reviews but you can write them even without a premium membership. Were you allowed to score your girls?
On another note I notice April of Bangkokescort.com listed on Smooci for 5000 baht, the same price as being booked from the agency.
https://bangkokescort.com/girls/april/What can I say Breadman. That is how it worked in my case. As I'm not a premium I can't check that they actually have posted the review. I might give the premium a try next time I'm back and find out. I was allowed to score the girls.
Glad to hear good rep on 'Cake'. Maybe ill book her with 'Beer'!
The free app use allows 2 HR min booking, which generally includes 2 shots; a 6 HR booking is often 2 shots too. Seems a bit parsimonious for 3 x as long.I think you need to consider the price Penguin69. Not sure how much more you'll be paying for 6 hours but when I look for example at Colina from Elite Bangkok Escorts they charge 3000 for 2 hours /2 shots and 7000 for 24 hours /4 shots. I think that makes sort of sense unless you're Peter North and want to stay 6 hours in bed or bang her in each corner of the room.
... or bang her in each corner of the room.This was my plan!
Glad to hear good rep on 'Cake'. Maybe ill book her with 'Beer'!
The free app use allows 2 HR min booking, which generally includes 2 shots; a 6 HR booking is often 2 shots too. Seems a bit parsimonious for 3 x as long.If I'm not wrong, the 4-6 hrs 2 shots is mostly for those who wish to go on a short date or a meal before the real bonking session to build up some chemistry between both.
10 hrs is 3 shots for most agencies. So 6 and 10 hrs, I would choose 10 hrs. No rush and good numbers of shots and time needed to recover.
Hello guys,
Ill be traveling from another country and won't have a Thai phone number. Will I need one for smooci or can I use something like Line? Also is it safe to DFK or BBBJ with these girls? Thanks.Hi.
You will need to be able to receive an SMS OTP to confirm your booking. It doesn't need to be a local sim, most international network sims will be able to receive an SMS in Thailand.
You have to enable international roaming to receive any SMS, otherwise your sim will not recognize any network and will be useless.
Just get a thai sim with your passport just before exiting the airport within the terminal itself. It takes literally 5 minutes and those ladies are super fast in activating the same. And it is cheap too.
Hello guys,
Ill be traveling from another country and won't have a Thai phone number. Will I need one for smooci or can I use something like Line? Also is it safe to DFK or BBBJ with these girls? Thanks.
You have to enable international roaming to receive any SMS, otherwise your sim will not recognize any network and will be useless.
Just get a thai sim with your passport just before exiting the airport within the terminal itself. It takes literally 5 minutes and those ladies are super fast in activating the same. And it is cheap too.Most international sims should still be able to receive an SMS in Thailand with roaming is off. Roaming usually refers to data roaming, and by switching it off it prevents your phone from eating up cellular data (I. E. 3 G /4 G). It doesn't deactivate your phone calls or SMS services and you can still connect to the local network. So even with roaming switched off most phones can still receieve SMS messages. WIFI will also still be active when data roaming is off.
You need to check with your network first, but in this day and age most networks don't charge you for receiving SMS while aborad, they only charge for sending SMS.
Why is everyone going on about sim cards when you can use smooci from any computer? So busy typing suggestions nobody ever went to the website to see if a girl could be ordered via the Internet?
Lots of new ladies on Smooci these days, but after many big age discrepancies the last couple of times, I'm very hesitant.
The old ladies are nice enough, but I can pick those up for free.
Until there's some actual age verification, I'm afraid I will have to remain very hesitant about using Smooci again.
If the exact age is not feasible to put on there, maybe classify the ladies as 'MILF', 'teen', '20's', '30's' etc.
Lots of new ladies on Smooci these days, but after many big age discrepancies the last couple of times, I'm very hesitant.
The old ladies are nice enough, but I can pick those up for free.
Until there's some actual age verification, I'm afraid I will have to remain very hesitant about using Smooci again.
If the exact age is not feasible to put on there, maybe classify the ladies as 'MILF', 'teen', '20's', '30's' etc.Can you give us some examples? What age was the girl listed at and how old was she in reality?
Lots of new ladies on Smooci these days, but after many big age discrepancies the last couple of times, I'm very hesitant.
The old ladies are nice enough, but I can pick those up for free.
Until there's some actual age verification, I'm afraid I will have to remain very hesitant about using Smooci again.
If the exact age is not feasible to put on there, maybe classify the ladies as 'MILF', 'teen', '20's', '30's' etc.What's a big discrepancy? From the three 20+ year old escorts I have met the difference was maximum 3 years. One was even younger than what was indicated on her Smooci profile. I think it was Cake who was 23 instead of 26 but as it has been a while I might be wrong.
Can you give us some examples? What age was the girl listed at and how old was she in reality?My most recent was Fo. She's closer to 40's than 20's.
Then Anna. Her pictures are definitely old pictures from when she was young. She's probably early 30's, minimum.
They were both fun, but not what I was looking for for that night, which is the problem.
While we do require to see a companion's ID in order to confirm they are over 18 and allow them on to the platform, we don't autofill their age.
Companions / agencies are required to take full responsibility for the accuracy of the info on their profiles. So far we haven't found age to be a huge issue, while some companions are more creative with their info than others the photo voting helps remove photos which are highly inaccurate, and the comments usually talk about the looks and age of the model, pointing out any notable discrepancies.
When a companion gets a number of negative reviews and their rating falls below a certain figure we go through their reviews and send the companion the common complaints as a means to improve, and if necessary, to correct the info on their profile. Their account is then restricted, limiting the number of bookings they can take until their score improve, and if they continue to get negative reviews they are then removed from the platform.
Crocodilexp
12-18-17, 22:40
While we do require to see a companion's ID in order to confirm they are over 18 and allow them on to the platform, we don't autofill their age.
Why not? It's not hard, and would be huge value to the customers. If there's a business case, restrict it to those who pay.
Are you worried that you'd lose providers or that you'd lose customers if they providers could no longer misrepresent their age?
Franciscass
12-19-17, 06:38
While we do require to see a companion's ID in order to confirm they are over 18 and allow them on to the platform, we don't autofill their age.
Companions / agencies are required to take full responsibility for the accuracy of the info on their profiles.Knowing their age from seeing their ID I find it puzzling that you would allow your platform which incidentally is an excellent addition to sourcing providers to show what you know to be misleading profile data. Seems you are somehow arguing it's not your responsibility. If you didn't know fine but you do know and yet you allow it on your site. When booking age is an important consideration for a lot of your customers and constant disappointment might not be in your best long-term business interest. Just a thought.
Knowing their age from seeing their ID I find it puzzling that you would allow your platform which incidentally is an excellent addition to sourcing providers to show what you know to be misleading profile data. Seems you are somehow arguing it's not your responsibility. If you didn't know fine but you do know and yet you allow it on your site. When booking age is an important consideration for a lot of your customers and constant disappointment might not be in your best long-term business interest. Just a thought.If Smooci knows the age of the woman and allows incorrect information to be posted on the website, that is plain fraud by anyone's definition. There is no excuse for not putting the correct age of the women on the website.
My most recent was Fo. She's closer to 40's than 20's.
Then Anna. Her pictures are definitely old pictures from when she was young. She's probably early 30's, minimum.
They were both fun, but not what I was looking for for that night, which is the problem.I would have guessed based on Fo's pictures that she was 35. I figured that they photoshopped away any blemishes but she still doesn't look all that young. Then I'd guess that most girls with implants had to work a good amount to afford implants. Overall I'd probably add 4 to 7 years to any girl listed older than 26.
As to the smooci website I'd rather have guaranteed photos than guaranteed age.
Why not? It's not hard, and would be huge value to the customers. If there's a business case, restrict it to those who pay.
Are you worried that you'd lose providers or that you'd lose customers if they providers could no longer misrepresent their age?It is a manual system, we recieve the IDs and manually check that they are genuine and the companion is of legal age. As per our terms and conditions and legal requirements we cannot auto fill info on the profiles, the companions / agencies must remain fully responsible for the information shown. If a companion gets common complaints stating that the info on their profile is incorrect we then step in to warn them and even ban them in extreme cases.
I would have guessed based on Fo's pictures that she was 35. I figured that they photoshopped away any blemishes but she still doesn't look all that young. Then I'd guess that most girls with implants had to work a good amount to afford implants. Overall I'd probably add 4 to 7 years to any girl listed older than 26.
As to the smooci website I'd rather have guaranteed photos than guaranteed age.In my opinion, the experience between a young WG and one who has been in the business for so long, is completely different.
For me it's more a change in the state of mind than the body. When you book someone you think is in their 20's, is fun, spontaneous, and adventurous, you instead get a hardened woman in her 40's who has seen it all, it's just not the same.
The older woman could have a better body and be better in bed, but that's still not what I was initially looking for when I booked her.
Franciscass
12-20-17, 04:43
It is a manual system, we recieve the IDs and manually check that they are genuine and the companion is of legal age. As per our terms and conditions and legal requirements we cannot auto fill info on the profiles, the companions / agencies must remain fully responsible for the information shown. If a companion gets common complaints stating that the info on their profile is incorrect we then step in to warn them and even ban them in extreme cases.I may be missing something here but really Smoocci come on, using cop outs like we cannot auto fill due to legal restrictions seems somewhat disingenuous. It's your site, you control the terms and conditions of listings. I understand you need as many escorts as possible using it to ensure a viable business proposition but I suggest that the long term success of your app would be best served by developing a sterling reputation for credibility. Accepted escorts using photo shopped or old pics is something you can only control after complaints are made but on age you know. Think about it, agreed you might lose some listings from girls reluctant to use their actual age but over time you will develop a larger consumer base because of greater transparency which in turn will attract more genuine escorts to use Smoocci. Am I missing something?
Luther1211
12-20-17, 09:16
Will there be any extra charges I should pay for the escort to come into my hotel?
Such as transport charges.
Will there be any extra charges I should pay for the escort to come into my hotel?
Such as transport charges.Transport charges will only apply to bookings outside of Bangkok's main city area, such as the airport hotels. Most companions / agencies charge 500 Baht travel fees for the airport hotels.
My most recent was Fo. She's closer to 40's than 20's.
Then Anna. Her pictures are definitely old pictures from when she was young. She's probably early 30's, minimum.
They were both fun, but not what I was looking for for that night, which is the problem.Is this the Fo that you are referring to? http://www.newbangkokescort.com/girls/fo/.
If so, the website has her weight at 163 kg and her height at 46 cm. So there are some obvious discrepancies with her situation. Otherwise, her photos look rather nice, too bad they cannot be relied on. Another case of obvious misrepresentation.
Smooci will soon lose any credibility as users find the site to be worthless shills of product that is unreliable. BTW my experience was similar to yours. Photoshop is too easy to use and taking a plain jane and making her look like a Barbie doll is far too common.
Crocodilexp
12-22-17, 00:15
As per our terms and conditions and legal requirements we cannot auto fill info on the profiles
Translated into plain English "we allow providers to lie to our customers about their age because we choose to do so (per our own terms and conditions)". There are no legal requirements whatsoever forbidding you from ensuring the displayed age is correct.
If you were a free service, I'd sort-of understand not wanting to touch more profile info than was absolutely necessary, but you're not. You have paid subscriptions, you post reviews and you have photo verification. As others have said, showing a fake age when you know it's wrong (and already have a process in place to verify IDs) is indeed fraud.
Makes me wonder, what other kinds of fraud or misrepresentation would you consider acceptable? Frankly, I'm not sure I'd trust you with you my credit card info and real name. What if you decide at some point that blackmailing customers (directly or by selling data to a 3rd party) is perfectly fine "according to your terms and conditions and legal requirements"?
Franciscass
12-22-17, 09:54
Is this the Fo that you are referring to? http://www.newbangkokescort.com/girls/fo/.
If so, the website has her weight at 163 kg and her height at 46 cm. So there are some obvious discrepancies with her situation. Otherwise, her photos look rather nice, too bad they cannot be relied on. Another case of obvious misrepresentation.
Smooci will soon lose any credibility as users find the site to be worthless shills of product that is unreliable. BTW my experience was similar to yours. Photoshop is too easy to use and taking a plain jane and making her look like a Barbie doll is far too common.To be fair to Smoocii when it comes to pics it's impossible to vouch for accuracy. Photo shopping along with lighting, soft focus lens etc. Are accepted practices in marketing products and I personally have no issue. It is what it is and caveat emptor.
With escorts though unless its super professionally done it's obvious when an image is photo shopped and a little creative reverse engineering can sometimes give a decent idea of what to expect when the door opens.
It's somewhat different when old pics are used and here I would argue that ensuring the correct age is shown makes that easier to spot.
Smooci is a terrific resource are should be recognized as such. I could see it developing into a major platform for all levels of the escort market from a Hi end membership only service to everyday providers but it has to have maximum credibility. Unfortunately judging from a significant number of posts on this forum that is presently lacking. Over to you Smooci.
Crocodilexp
12-22-17, 21:03
Smooci is a terrific resource are should be recognized as such. I could see it developing into a major platform for all levels of the escort market from a Hi end membership only service to everyday providers but it has to have maximum credibility.Online platforms are all about cutting out the middleman and directly connecting sellers and buyers. At this point, it seems to me Smooci has no desire to be a broad marketplace connecting hookers and customer, otherwise it would have attempted signing up freelancers long time ago. What I don't understand is why Smooci doesn't attempt this.
In that segment, they do have a Thai competitor: about half-the price, Thai-language only, with atrocious layout, but with free reviews, seemingly less doctored pictures, provide Line IDs directly, and don't take any responsibility for what happens. Search is a paid option on that Thai site. Would be nice to see Smooci compete with them head-on (they're miles ahead in usability / design), but covering the Farang market as well.
Instead, it seems to me that Smooci is instead aiming to be a limited-scale meta-escort agency (charging subscriptions, with providers asking high prices, seemingly with a price floor set by the house), but still try to disclaim all responsibility for quality and accuracy of information or service, even in easy cases like age which they already know. I wish them all the luck, but honestly, this business model has limited appeal to me.
Hey Sammy1968,
Do you have an update to this spreadsheet?
I couldn't get premium membership as my debit card not accepted and Bitcoin take too long.
Was after feedback on:
Jinta.
Dollar.
Windy.
Cassidy.
February.
This is a spreadsheet I did for July, but didn't use because site was down.
All from Premium comments.
Name Age Star // Price (2 hours) // Good / Bad // DFK / BBBJFS / COB.
Mon 28 3. 8 3000 Sweet / Shy // Temper / P.S.'the / All.
View 24 4. 8 2940 Horny All.
Stella 26 4. 1 3000 very professional. Very nice // Shy, not all services All.
Plang 20 5 3000 Simply amazing No BBBJ..
Translated into plain English "we allow providers to lie to our customers about their age because we choose to do so (per our own terms and conditions)". There are no legal requirements whatsoever forbidding you from ensuring the displayed age is correct.
If you were a free service, I'd sort-of understand not wanting to touch more profile info than was absolutely necessary, but you're not. You have paid subscriptions, you post reviews and you have photo verification. As others have said, showing a fake age when you know it's wrong (and already have a process in place to verify IDs) is indeed fraud.
Makes me wonder, what other kinds of fraud or misrepresentation would you consider acceptable? Frankly, I'm not sure I'd trust you with you my credit card info and real name. What if you decide at some point that blackmailing customers (directly or by selling data to a 3rd party) is perfectly fine "according to your terms and conditions and legal requirements"?Seriously my myself, I don't see age really post an issue.
Guess many still don't know yet, in Thailand, you can make a new ID with new details like the. O. be and age etc anytime of the day as you like.
(Well, if I'm the working girl, I can change it to forever 21 if needed to. So when you see me and I show you my new ID at 21 and you believe visually but in fact I'm 31.).
That's call visual marketing on seller side and visual satisfaction on customer side.
For me, the details shown in the girls profile are merely for a reference only and what really matters is their service provided and of because, the pic and actual person needs to be in 75% and up look alike.
I'm pretty straight forward and I'm looking for a good Fxxk time and not looking for a wife or a relationship with an escorts which I think many others are. As in looking for a so call relationship in order to get some free Fxxk in the future when back to Bangkok again. Many are playing this game though. LoLx.
Franciscass
12-26-17, 05:49
Seriously my myself, I don't see age really post an issue.
Guess many still don't know yet, in Thailand, you can make a new ID with new details like the. O. be and age etc anytime of the day as you like.
(Well, if I'm the working girl, I can change it to forever 21 if needed to. So when you see me and I show you my new ID at 21 and you believe visually but in fact I'm 31.).
That's call visual marketing on seller side and visual satisfaction on customer side.
For me, the details shown in the girls profile are merely for a reference only and what really matters is their service provided and of because, the pic and actual person needs to be in 75% and up look alike.
I'm pretty straight forward and I'm looking for a good Fxxk time and not looking for a wife or a relationship with an escorts which I think many others are. As in looking for a so call relationship in order to get some free Fxxk in the future when back to Bangkok again. Many are playing this game though. LoLx.While it's possible to get a fake Thai ID it is not anymore as you suggest as easy as popping down to the Kosan Road. That apart it's a serious offense for a Thai to be caught in possession of one and I imagine working girls would think twice before using it just to cloak their real age.
As to importance of the girl you booked resembling the girl you thought you booked, to some like yourself it doesn't seem to make a difference. In some ways this an admirable attitude and certainly precludes disappointment.
Others and I include myself here who book a 20 year old would prefer that a 20 year arrives and not her older auntie.
Happy New Year to one and all.
Crocodilexp
12-27-17, 20:49
Guess many still don't know yet, in Thailand, you can make a new ID with new details like the. O. be and age etc anytime of the day as you like.
Maybe one of those "international journalist" IDs on Khao San, but proper Thai ID cards are all biometric these days and not easily faked. I'm sure it's possible to obtain a convincing fake, but it won't happen without serious money and connections, usually beyond an average hooker's pay-grade. Thailand is 2017 is not the same as Thailand in 1987.
Maybe one of those "international journalist" IDs on Khao San, but proper Thai ID cards are all biometric these days and not easily faked. I'm sure it's possible to obtain a convincing fake, but it won't happen without serious money and connections, usually beyond an average hooker's pay-grade. Thailand is 2017 is not the same as Thailand in 1987.For your info, is not to fake a ID card, You be real surprise how easy is for them to change ID, change name, change age. Not much money needed either, Biometric on Thai ID? LOL don't be too naive to believe what you see on the surface. Damn easy to have a new real changed info ID cards. (with some "proper" documents).
By the way, fake documents and IDs in Khao San roads is so then. Who still go there to fake documents and ID.
In Thai, many things are shown on surface just to fool the ignorant.
Yes, the surface of Thailand is 2017, but the hard truth for Thailand inside is still in 1980's.
Crocodilexp
12-29-17, 04:52
For your info, is not to fake a ID card, You be real surprise how easy is for them to change ID, change name, change age. Not much money needed either, Biometric on Thai ID? LOL don't be too naive to believe what you see on the surface. Damn easy to have a new real changed info ID cards. (with some "proper" documents).Over the years, I met way too many all-knowing Thailand experts who peddle second-hand tales they heard in a bar with 100% confidence. If you said "possible", I might believe you know something I don't, but "damn easy", yeah, right, whatever you say after a few beers.
Officially changing your name in Thailand is easy, many people do that (some several times). As for changing your date of birth, photo, gender or national ID number, not so easy, if at all.
Do you think all those Burmese / Cambodian workers and non-citizen hilltribe folks are total idiots for paying off the police repeatedly when it's "damn easy" to get a proper Thai ID card with whichever info they choose on it?
Over the years, I met way too many all-knowing Thailand experts who peddle second-hand tales they heard in a bar with 100% confidence. If you said "possible", I might believe you know something I don't, but "damn easy", yeah, right, whatever you say after a few beers.
Officially changing your name in Thailand is easy, many people do that (some several times). As for changing your date of birth, photo, gender or national ID number, not so easy, if at all.
Do you think all those Burmese / Cambodian workers and non-citizen hilltribe folks are total idiots for paying off the police repeatedly when it's "damn easy" to get a proper Thai ID card with whichever info they choose on it?From your assumption that I'm those foreigner who listen to people from bars and drunk over beers. You are not even near to right. Non drinker here.
After 25 yrs here and with Thai ID and passport, I jolly well know many things which are not even know to many and even locals don't even know it exists. They are suppose to be ignorant about many things in Thailand, things to known are to the elites and the selected ones.
Money works wonder here and there are many ways money are not even involves. Never think its never impossible. Nothing is Impossible in Thailand.
But never over estimate yourself of knowing that much There are always a tiger in silent. Crouching and watching.
Good day mate.
Ran across an agency's website, Thai escorts Bangkok when I was looking at a few of their ladies and I noticed on their website it said there was an additional fee of 2000 baht for A level. If you book through smooci do you have to pay any additional fee's to get this service?
Crocodilexp
01-03-18, 20:13
After 25 yrs here and with Thai ID and passport Yeah, sure. Do you happen to be best buddies with the Prime Minister as well?
It's way too easy to claim things on the internet.
Gigi Buffon
01-03-18, 21:30
Ran across an agency's website, Thai escorts Bangkok when I was looking at a few of their ladies and I noticed on their website it said there was an additional fee of 2000 baht for A level. If you book through smooci do you have to pay any additional fee's to get this service?Yes. Additional services have an extra fee in Smooci as well, these are listed in booking page and you get choose if you want those or not. But many of the girls, if booked through Smooci have a lower rate than the rate quoted in agency website. Take February, for example, she is listed in Pure Bangkok at THB 5,000 for 2 hrs, if you want A-level is an additional THB 2,000. But, if you book her via Smooci, it is THB 3,500 for 2 hrs plus THB 2,000 for A-level, which brings your total to THB 5,500 for 2 hrs with A-level included. Another example is G. I. From New Bangkok, you can book her for 2 hrs with A-level in Smooci for THB 5,000, but if you call the agency it will be THB 5,000+2,000. This is one of the benefits that I found of booking via Smooci vs contacting the agency directly. Most girls have lower rates, but not all, some have the same rate vs agency.
It's way too easy to claim things on the internet.Quote from yourself. So don't assume too easily either.
Good day mate.
I had booked Kora through Smooci looking at her catchy pics on Smooci. But was little disappointed at the looks when she entered my room. She looks lot younger on pics. Looks like they engage some professionals to morph their images. LOL. But overall the experience was good. She was eager to please. Did all that mentioned in her profile. Rimming was extra ordinary. That compensated the looks any way. Did anyone try Julie? She seems to have a 4.7 rating!
I had booked Kora through Smooci looking at her catchy pics on Smooci. But was little disappointed at the looks when she entered my room. She looks lot younger on pics. Looks like they engage some professionals to morph their images. LOL. But overall the experience was good. She was eager to please. Did all that mentioned in her profile. Rimming was extra ordinary. That compensated the looks any way. Did anyone try Julie? She seems to have a 4.7 rating!Hopefully Cake will be online for my visit. I'm also tempted by the lovely-looking Julie.
Hopefully Cake will be online for my visit. I'm also tempted by the lovely-looking Julie.Please Add More updates on Smooci Girls.
Please Add More updates on Smooci Girls.After deciding it was worth getting a 3 day membership to access reviews, I finally went for Saki. As attractive as Cake's photos are, the reviews suggested she is a bit too tempramental for my liking.
I booked the equally adorable Sugar, but she cancelled.
Saki is very pretty, polite, professional. She very much has her idea of running the meeting. First came the instructed shower together, which was nice, then to the bed for the OK BBBJ, then to various positions, after 1st shot, straight into shower for her again. Back to bed for nice massage, with a few professional techniques, then to more positions for 2nd shot. She took direction well. She wasn't much into conversation, short, one-word, but friendly, replies. After 2nd shot, she didn't hang around for any further intimacies, (no cuddling or DFK) straight to final shower and then got dressed. A 2 HR booking wound up coming to conclusion around 30 min early. A very nice, attractive girl but maybe not as flexible as some might like for a meeting. She's not shaved but has a smattering of hair, nothing heavy.
When a companion gets a number of negative reviews and their rating falls below a certain figure we go through their reviews and send the companion the common complaints as a means to improve, and if necessary, to correct the info on their profile. Their account is then restricted, limiting the number of bookings they can take until their score improve, and if they continue to get negative reviews they are then removed from the platform.Guess we don't have to worry about this anymore since the ratings have been removed on all the girls. Hope its a temporary thing but I doubt it. Its a moneymaking business, I completely understand.
Guess we don't have to worry about this anymore since the ratings have been removed on all the girls. Hope its a temporary thing but I doubt it. Its a moneymaking business, I completely understand.I still see the ratings you just got to click into the profile not just search results.
Guess we don't have to worry about this anymore since the ratings have been removed on all the girls. Hope its a temporary thing but I doubt it. Its a moneymaking business, I completely understand.The ratings are still there, but you have to click on the girl's profile, and they are at the top of the rest of her details. Agree that removing them from the thumbnails on the main page is a bit of a hassle though.
It seems that as of today the filters have been expanded to include DT, GFE and others. No filter for English ability though. Also a lot of new girls have shown up.
It seems that as of today the filters have been expanded to include DT, GFE and others. No filter for English ability though. Also a lot of new girls have shown up.I don't see a definition of terms on the Smooci site but they must have a rather high standard concept of what a "GFE" means. Doing a quick check for the latest time I could select right now, 1:30 PM, I saw that when I filtered out for CIM, the number of girls with that listed on their profile went from 47 to 24, pretty much the usual ratio for that particular service. Not surprisingly, for DT the number went from 47 to 11. LOL.
But it was interesting that when I filtered for GFE the number went from 47 to 24, same as for CIM. I would think a much higher percentage of girls would be happy to add that to their offered service list if they thought it primarily meant being nice, friendly or affectionate with the customer, all rather expected and fairly vague, highly subjective notions anyway. Kind of a free ride for almost every girl to include it on her list of offered services, so why not, right? Maybe many of the girls aren't sure what it means. Same as many customers, imo. Or they think it means going out to dinner and a movie beforehand. Perhaps some girls think it has something to do with offering BBFS as an option. Honestly, it is impossible for anyone to really know what it means on a site like that if there is no definition provided.
Don't know what Smooci thinks GFE means, don't know what the girls think it means and don't know what the girls think the customers think it means. But roughly 50% of the girls available this afternoon apparently don't want to have anything to do with it. lol.
Yeah, I would say a Definition of Terms is very much in order on those Escort sites and/or Smooci. I just filtered out for DATY and the number of available girls willing to accept that at 3PM today went from 54 to 0 (zero). Lolol.
Ok, it is probably because that "service" option is so new on Smooci it hasn't been selected by any girls just yet or something. But still. LOL.
Yeah, I would say a Definition of Terms is very much in order on those Escort sites and/or Smooci. I just filtered out for DATY and the number of available girls willing to accept that at 3PM today went from 54 to 0 (zero). Lolol.
Ok, it is probably because that "service" option is so new on Smooci it hasn't been selected by any girls just yet or something. But still. LOL.We have only just added the extra services. The companions / agencies have been informed but they are only just starting to update their accounts. It make take a few days to a week for these services to start to show effectively.
We have also created rollover text on all the service abbreviation to help explain them better.
Guess we don't have to worry about this anymore since the ratings have been removed on all the girls. Hope its a temporary thing but I doubt it. Its a moneymaking business, I completely understand.There was a small glitch with our last update that hid the star ratings from the results page (ratings were still visibile on the profile pages). This is being fixed.
It seems that as of today the filters have been expanded to include DT, GFE and others. No filter for English ability though. Also a lot of new girls have shown up.We are starting to collect data on language levels of the companions, including English. We will add this to the profiles at a later date once we have enough data.
You may start to notice some independents on the site. Our companion app for freelancers is now in BETA phase and we have added a small group of independents working on the new app on Smooci Bangkok. We will slowly introduce a few more independents in Bangkok, and in the coming weeks we hope to be able to launch in Singapore and allow all independents to join in SG. If that goes smoothly it will pave the way for us to start expanding much further through 2018.
We have also created rollover text on all the service abbreviation to help explain them better.Yes, that does help anyone who didn't already know that GFE stands for Girlfriend Experience, that PSE stands for Pornstar Experience, that DATY stands for Dine at the Y and so on. But are there any plans to provide a Definition of Terms to better explain what the girl means when she says she provides, for instance, a GFE/Girlfriend Experience or a PSE/Pornstar Experience?
There is such a dramatic drop in the number and percentage of girls who are willing to say they provide a "GFE" on their profile, around 50% and sometimes more, I am guessing the drop off girls don't think it merely means presenting a nice smile when the hotel door opens, projecting a pleasant, friendly demeanor or that it has much to do with other services one might reasonably presume are GFE-related, such as DFK and BBBJ, because many girls who claim to provide those services don't also claim to provide a GFE.
Good to see at least one girl out of the 41 available at 3PM today is now willing to allow DATY with her customers. Again, I realize this is a new item added to the Smooci site. But isn't it also possible that a lot of girls don't really know what DATY means there or, for that matter, on their original escort sites even if it is spelled out as Dine at the Y with that rollover text feature..?
Crocodilexp
01-15-18, 08:05
Yeah, I would say a Definition of Terms is very much in order on those Escort sites and/or Smooci.
It's definitely useful, but even better would be an option for customers who review girls to check boxes for what the girl actually did (in addition to the girl checking boxes for what she's willing to do).
It's definitely useful, but even better would be an option for customers who review girls to check boxes for what the girl actually did (in addition to the girl checking boxes for what she's willing to do).I like your thinking with that idea.
Of course, even that would require customers to be mostly in agreement and on the same page about what a BBBJ is (as the term is generally used on these sites I consider it to be mere oral foreplay, not really a "blowjob", yet it is often discussed on these sites as a blowjob until you question it further and find out it was merely oral foreplay after all), that CIM is when the customer finishes fully IN HER MOUTH (not mostly outside her mouth while, at best, her hand takes over, which I consider a "handjob" with some oral foreplay thrown in), that DFK does not mean she just poked her tongue out through her nearly clenched teeth for a nanosecond to touch yours and so on. Massage? Good lord, I can only imagine what I might have thought was an actual "massage" had I been deprived of even so much as a mild, one-hand back rub during years of a hopeless marriage back in the USA. LOL.
But most of time checking either "Yes, she did" or "No, she didn't even after I requested it" would cover it enough to get the point across; either she did or she didn't do the thing stated on her profile after being asked or blatantly encouraged to do it.
I think the only two highly subjective, anything-YOU-hope-it-means while in reality it is just certain things-SHE-thinks-it-means services listed on any of these escort check lists are GFE and PSE, with GFE being the far more subjective of the two to the point of being, well, meaningless in the absence of a clear definition of what it means to the girl claiming she provides it.
At least with PSE one could argue that a Pornstar Experience is whatever sexual act you can easily find clips of featured porn actresses performing on porn sites like YouPorn and Tube Galore. You show the girl the clip and then sit back and wait for her to deliver. Lololol. Which, if you're letting me do the YouPorn clip search, means virtually NO Thai P4P girl has provided a true Pornstar Experience in known history. But that won't stop a lot of girls from checking that PSE box all the same because, like GFE, it ultimately only means whatever the girl wants it to mean.
Yes, that does help anyone who didn't already know that GFE stands for Girlfriend Experience, that PSE stands for Pornstar Experience, that DATY stands for Dine at the Y and so on. But are there any plans to provide a Definition of Terms to better explain what the girl means when she says she provides, for instance, a GFE/Girlfriend Experience or a PSE/Pornstar Experience?We have been debating whether to use PSE and GFE, and are still open to removing them. As you have mentioned, they are somewhat subjective terms.
Traditionally PSE refers to a more wild and passionate experience, while GFE refers to a more romantic and intimate experience.
Perhaps the members her can let us know whether having these service tags are useful, or whether people feel they are a bit outdated and too subjective.
We are also open to any other service tags you feel would be useful to add.
We have been debating whether to use PSE and GFE, and are still open to removing them. As you have mentioned, they are somewhat subjective terms.
Traditionally PSE refers to a more wild and passionate experience, while GFE refers to a more romantic and intimate experience.
Perhaps the members her can let us know whether having these service tags are useful, or whether people feel they are a bit outdated and too subjective.
We are also open to any other service tags you feel would be useful to add.Since they are really the only two highly subjective terms that I have seen on these kinds of lists, why not ask each girl who wants those terms put on her profile to add a few words or comments about what she means by it. Not an essay about herself. Just a few words about what she means by claiming that term as a service she offers. If the girl comes up with something that better informs the customer about what he can expect, great, put the term or terms in her profile along with those words or comments attributed to her. We might be very pleasantly surprised by what some of those girls tell us about their intentions to deliver on those experiences.
But if she can't come up with anything to say about it, about what she means by claiming it, then don't put the term or terms on her profile because then she is only claiming it to add more supposed services she either has no intention of delivering anyway or has no idea what it means in the first place. I imagine a lot of girls just check the boxes on those terms now because they are the free ride I mentioned before. They benefit by whatever it means in the heads of the customer while knowing full well it is only going to be up to them, the girl, what it means at crunch time. But if you ask them to tell us what they mean by it, that ought to weed out many of the posers on those terms. For a while, at least.
Who knows, maybe none of the girls will check those boxes if they can't come up with a darn thing to say they mean by it. lol. And that serves the customer better than empty promises anyway.
Since they are really the only two highly subjective terms that I have seen on these kinds of lists, why not ask each girl who wants those terms put on her profile to add a few words or comments about what she means by it. ....Not sure asking the companions would give you the result you'd like. I'd imagine it might be more of the same rote BS that appears in the write-up on their agency page.
I have an idea. Since they are both subjective instead of asking the companions to write something, why not provide an optional query to the customer? It could be very simple, right below the 1 to 5 rating selection there is a "would you rate this experience as GFE? Yes / No", and ditto for PSE. Certain percentage of yes votes triggers the GFE / PSE to be automatically added to list of services.
The YMMV would still apply. Seeing GFE as a service in this case would not guarantee it but would suggest its highly probable. In my (perhaps) relatively limited experience with P4P girls I would say its largely up to you anyway. You can either help foster a GFE atmosphere / situation or you can kill it. PSE is even more subjective I think. What kind of porn do you watch? What are your fantasies? I create a PSE type situation with my P4P companions because that's what I prefer to GFE but then my idea of PSE could be considerably different than yours.
Not sure asking the companions would give you the result you'd like. I'd imagine it might be more of the same rote BS that appears in the write-up on their agency page.
I have an idea. Since they are both subjective instead of asking the companions to write something, why not provide an optional query to the customer? It could be very simple, right below the 1 to 5 rating selection there is a "would you rate this experience as GFE? Yes / No", and ditto for PSE. Certain percentage of yes votes triggers the GFE / PSE to be automatically added to list of services.
The YMMV would still apply. Seeing GFE as a service in this case would not guarantee it but would suggest its highly probable. In my (perhaps) relatively limited experience with P4P girls I would say its largely up to you anyway. You can either help foster a GFE atmosphere / situation or you can kill it. PSE is even more subjective I think. What kind of porn do you watch? What are your fantasies? I create a PSE type situation with my P4P companions because that's what I prefer to GFE but then my idea of PSE could be considerably different than yours.I am all for customer reported after-the-fact check boxes for each of the services claimed on their profiles, essentially what Crocodilexp has suggested; Did she provide the CIM you requested? Did she provide the DFK you requested? And so on. Why confine it to just those two services, GFE and PSE?
In fact, that is what I had hoped the Star Ratings would be more specifically all about rather than the predictably vague "Overall Experience" bit. But that was an expressed hope for which there was mighty push-back on all sides and so it never happened. Not sure how an after-the-fact check box for just those two highly subjective and, therefore, potentially largely misleading services, GFE and PSE, would make them less highly subjective and, therefore, potentially largely misleading for the next guy considering booking her though.
I agree that a lot of what the girl might say if my concept is employed would be BS. But, again, that is where penalizing or rewarding them via the Star Rating system is theoretically supposed to come in, right? If the girl says nothing more than, "I am a sweet, affectionate girl who likes to smile" under her claim to provide a GFE, then that ought to help her earn a big 5 Star Rating from the guys who think that is primarily what a GFE is all about. On the other hand, if she says, "I do everything. Up to you," under her claim to provide a PSE, the kind of reply most of us have heard a million times from P4P girls in every conceivable venue trying to entice us to agree to book her and close the deal, then she'd better really mean what she says or risk getting the lowest Star Rating on her profile, right?
The way it is generally done and done on Smooci right now allows her to check the GFE and PSE box and not be held accountable for anything as long as those terms are defined solely by whatever unexpressed thing she thinks they mean. Having a customer tell me she did it based on what HE thinks it means really tells me nothing and still doesn't hold her accountable for the claim.
If girls are making that latter claim anywhere, on the street, in a go-go bar, a beer bar, outside a massage shop or on an escort service-related website in order to close a deal and convince a customer to "book" her, then she ought to be taken at her word and reap the rewards of actually delivering or the penalties of not delivering on them via an after-the-fact report. This is where that can finally happen.
Of course, we need to at least agree that an "I do everything. Up to you" claim must be confined to acts of a sexual nature. I mean, I wouldn't give her a 1 Star Rating because I asked her to paint my apartment and rotate the tires on my mini-van but, darn it, she refused.
I agree with you that we can do much to foster either a GFE or a PSE, whatever each one means to us individually, after the girl arrives. In fact, I would argue that those terms are so subjective and vague that, unless the girl behaves entirely like a mechanical robot throughout the session, it WILL be perceived as either more "romantic and intimate" or "wild and passionate" anyway. But that doesn't really address the dynamic where an escort customer would truly like to know what in the world she is claiming here while a major trade-off for not meeting or seeing the girl in the flesh first before booking is to know more specifically, in writing, what the girl will actually do for him during the session.
After all, some of us might book a girl who does not list CIM on her profile but by the end of our first session with her she has done that very thing and even more than that for us merely because we fostered the environment to make it happen. But that isn't what this kind of arrangement ought to rely on imo.
Franciscass
01-17-18, 07:27
Not sure asking the companions would give you the result you'd like. I'd imagine it might be more of the same rote BS that appears in the write-up on their agency page.
I have an idea. Since they are both subjective instead of asking the companions to write something, why not provide an optional query to the customer? It could be very simple, right below the 1 to 5 rating selection there is a "would you rate this experience as GFE? Yes / No", and ditto for PSE. Certain percentage of yes votes triggers the GFE / PSE to be automatically added to list of services.
The YMMV would still apply. Seeing GFE as a service in this case would not guarantee it but would suggest its highly probable. In my (perhaps) relatively limited experience with P4P girls I would say its largely up to you anyway. You can either help foster a GFE atmosphere / situation or you can kill it. PSE is even more subjective I think. What kind of porn do you watch? What are your fantasies? I create a PSE type situation with my P4P companions because that's what I prefer to GFE but then my idea of PSE could be considerably different than yours.PSE should include A+, BBBJ, CIM multi pops and multi positions delivered with a serious amount of sexual energy. It usually takes some time in the business before a provider reaches this level of expertise consequently is usually found in older working girls. It requires no real connection between the participants just hardcore nonstop physical action.
GFE is of an entirely different nature. Includes uninhibited cuddling and kissing but more importantly there has to have be a sense of affection. It is more an attitude than a particular type of service and works best when both parties are in tune with each other. In my experience this comes from girls who are naturally affectionate and who are intent on making their customers happy and are happy when they are happy. It will be a more relaxed routine with lots of touching and body to body contact.
Conversely to the PSE where the best providers are older in my experience it is with the younger newer girls that you will find the best GFE. Unfortunately they are usually quickly scooped up as girlfriends or mia noi's usually by Koreans or Japanese.
Crocodilexp
01-17-18, 09:05
If girls are making that latter claim anywhere, on the street, in a go-go bar, a beer bar, outside a massage shop or on an escort service-related website in order to close a deal and convince a customer to "book" her, then she ought to be taken at her word and reap the rewards of actually delivering or the penalties of not delivering on them via an after-the-fact report. This is where that can finally happen.You raise interesting points. The girl "yes" directly to the customer (to a question like "do you do anal? Is worth way more than general statements like "all girls in the shop do A+" or "I do everything", and these are worth more than checking some box when signing up for a website.
The only reliable way to know what girls do and what they don't is to ask customers. There should be 3 choices (a) yes; (b) no, she refused; (c) no, I did not ask for it.
I wouldn't even bother with vague terms like GFE and PSE, but simple acts like BBBJ / CBJ, CIM, DATY, DFK, A+, BBFS / CFS.
You raise interesting points. The girl "yes" directly to the customer (to a question like "do you do anal? Is worth way more than general statements like "all girls in the shop do A+" or "I do everything", and these are worth more than checking some box when signing up for a website.
The only reliable way to know what girls do and what they don't is to ask customers. There should be 3 choices (a) yes; (b) no, she refused; (c) no, I did not ask for it.
I wouldn't even bother with vague terms like GFE and PSE, but simple acts like BBBJ / CBJ, CIM, DATY, DFK, A+, BBFS / CFS.Agreed. Rating system should include customer reviews that cover not only general attitude but specific acts as well. I like the multiple choice system Croc suggests.
At smooci.
I booked a girl few hours back to my hotel, after the session, I had rated and written a review about her.
I know that if you rated, your name will not be visible, but I am concerned if my name would be visible in the review session.
Could you please clarify?
Loose Cannon
01-17-18, 19:45
At smooci.
I booked a girl few hours back to my hotel, after the session, I had rated and written a review about her.
I know that if you rated, your name will not be visible, but I am concerned if my name would be visible in the review session.
Could you please clarify?Don't worry. Name does not get displayed in smooci site. It just mentions the month you gave the review.
LC.
Loose Cannon
01-17-18, 21:08
My Bangkok stay was scheduled only for a weekend and I was weighing in the pro / con of taking up the premium subscription. The fact that it only cost $10 for a 3 days account and ability to book 24 hrs ahead made me choose the premium option. I feel it was a good decision as I had dates lined up and was ahead in line to choose my playmate. Reading the reviews especially the recent ones helped me choose better and I have not been disappointed with my choices during the act. Had booked Rain, Milan and Camry and below are my FR.
Rain, - Booked 2 hrs.
Very sweet girl, Curvier (fatter) than the photos available in the site. Arrived on time. Showered up at my room before the act. Undressed and started the session with a low pressure massage / this was followed by a wonderful BBBJ and tonguing my sensitive spots, which got me started. Was worried I would blow up, so started with woman on top for some few minutes and we went to missionary position. I blew my first shot in missionary. Had a shower before the next round. Again a massage and BBBJ to initiate the second round. I normally take very long for the second round, so had her in multiple positions before releasing my second shot 5 minutes before the 2 hour slot. Overall a good experience. Not great in english so conversation was limited to one word / sentence responses.
Milan. Booked 3 hrs.
Arrived half hour later than appointed time and was tired because of party she attended the night before, so she spent next half hour sleeping cuddling me. I had booked 3 hours knowing that I will take longer to release 2nd time, this extra hour was not spent on me. I forced her to wake up and told her to take a shower and get ready for the act, she said she already took shower, I gave her the local red bull to wake her up properly for the act and I started the deed. Good kisser, but not into DFK as she said she has mouth ulcer. This meant I had a covered BJ. Pussy was tight for me and I took more than 45 min for first time with multiple positions. Spent 15 min cuddling and talking general stuff. Her english was good so she is able to give good company. Was a GFE for me. Then I started with the second round, it took for ever and I was no where close to come, so told her to give BJ for 5 min and then HJ until I come while I was sucking her boobs. Boobs had silicon so was bit hard and looked a bit dis proportioned to her body structure. She took a shower before leaving my room. She forced me to rate her 5 star, but I modified the rating with detailed review in smooci after her departure. Felt she is good for a longer and more relaxed booking as she can give good company and maybe likes to cuddle and sleep. If I take out the fact that she came late for the meeting and slept of the first hour of the booking, it was a good session.
Camry. Booked 3 hrs.
I had booked Camry to arrive 4 hrs after my session with Milan, however she arrived half hour before the appointment. She came and changed to the black lingerie in her profile, which was a turn on for me. She started by giving me a good massage and followed it by a great BBBJ. Once I got ready, had her in multiple positions. Because of my recent session few hours ago I still had not come by end of 1 hour, so I told her to give me BBBJ until I come. She restarted the BBBJ and relentlessly for the next 20 min worked her jaws off. It was a CIM when I finally released. Both of us were tired with this effort and so took a small break. Then she again gave me a massage and asked whether I want to continue for the second round. By this time I did not have any energy and saw that she was also tired, so I told her to just lie down on me so that I can play with her body. This was the best session among all for me. She was also eager to please my body needs and can be a great companion too. I will definitely book her again if I visit Bangkok with a longer booking or take her along with me as a companion.
LC.
P.S. : this is a 2 month old FR. Was busy and could not find time to report.
PSE should include A+, BBBJ, CIM multi pops and multi positions delivered with a serious amount of sexual energy. It usually takes some time in the business before a provider reaches this level of expertise consequently is usually found in older working girls. It requires no real connection between the participants just hardcore nonstop physical action.
GFE is of an entirely different nature. Includes uninhibited cuddling and kissing but more importantly there has to have be a sense of affection. It is more an attitude than a particular type of service and works best when both parties are in tune with each other. In my experience this comes from girls who are naturally affectionate and who are intent on making their customers happy and are happy when they are happy. It will be a more relaxed routine with lots of touching and body to body contact.
-snip-Ok. Then is it your suggestion that Smooci put an asterisk next to the terms GFE* and PSE* referencing to definitions of them exactly as you stated it here or were you just sharing with us on this forum your personal opinion for each term?
Of course, any definition conjured up by someone other than the girl herself ought to be prominantly posted in Thai as well as English on Smooci's site to improve the chance of the girls ever being made aware of it too before they claim to provide it, whatever it is determined to be.
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