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Umm. No, suprisingly enough we were refering to the "verified, unedited comments".Ok. But then "unedited comments" by whom if not by the customers who booked the girl already? You mean the "unedited comments" by the girl in her profile regarding her own age, weight and so on? I thought those were simply claimed data points. Guess I never thought of them as "unedited comments". Otherwise, I don't recall ever reading "unedited comments" by the girls in their Smooci profiles unless that is something only premium members can read.
Smooci provides a specific service, and what works on ThaiFriendly, isn't necessarily conducive to the way Smooci does business and vice versa. Next thing you know we'll be asking for a special button we can press to let the hooker know to clean the bathroom before she leaves our hotel!SmoociApp is the poster who first compared its methods and service favorably to "dating sites" in this particular discussion. By contrast, I am one who questioned it. That being the case, I thought it useful to point out the rather huge advantage for "dating sites" in that the potential customer and the P4P girl can have a brief and private exchange in order for both to better verify whatever is important to them and to better assess the decision to book a meeting.
Personally, I have never "haggled" with a P4P girl on a dating site before setting up an appointment with her. Never needed to and if it ever felt like I was "haggling", I'd close the conversation and move on to the next girl.
Instead, it turns out that many of us, me included I suppose, will have a greater chance of getting positive response to the 1-2 critical details that I need to know before I would even consider booking a P4P girl I have never met in the flesh when I can exchange simple chat pleasantries with her first, more improved chance if I send the girl current photos of me, and even greater chance of positive response when I can engage in no more than one minute of video chatting with her just to say "hi" (and, of course, all of those means of pre-booking personal contact are trumped if I meet them in person first. But that isn't the way an online service like Smooci or a dating site works, right?).
I am not saying I am so good-looking that a girl is unlikely to refuse the 1-2 details that matter to me once she has seen my photos, video chatted with me or met me in person. Rather, I just think most punters would get a more positive response to the 1-2 things they really want in the deal before booking when they can make a personal connection with the girl first. Makes sense, right? Yes, one can book a girl for 3,750+ baht first and then find out when she arrives if this will be one of those times or not. But, again, not much reason to make that bet when there are dating sites that provide a means to fill in the missing piece of prior personal contact and greatly reduce the risk of a bad session where Smooci's business model cannot. Or has not.
Franciscass
05-10-18, 12:49
Escorts sites and dating sites are different platforms that serve different needs. Smooci is a user friendly almost instant result escort booking site with lots of choice. Prices and services are clearly shown. Its obviously successful and a great addition to the P4P scene. That said it's not perfect, the main issue being dated pics and misleading age profiles.
Smooci say this is the exception rather than the rule. Umm not my experience from I admit just two bookings.
They say girls who mislead are eventually "punished ' for their misdeeds by losing clients or being banned if sufficient complaints are made. I suppose this depends on how much of their business is repeat, how much is transient and how many clients will complain.
I suggest once again Smooci must try and verify age, its not difficult. They say most of the profiles are accurate if so why should the girls be reluctant to have their age verified. Could it be that most clip a few years off?
I don't use dating sites but from reading posts they seem to require significant time and effort in finding a suitable hookup. Being able to have face time and chit chat before meeting up is an obvious plus along the possibility of a genuine GFE by being with somebody who is not a professional.
Both have their distinctive advantages. I suppose if one has the time and know how to navigate, dating sites are preferable to escort sites, at least you know what to expect when you open the door and have confirmed what services will follow.
SmoociApp is the poster who first compared its methods and service favorably to "dating sites" in this particular discussion. By contrast, I am one who questioned it. That being the case, I thought it useful to point out the rather huge advantage for "dating sites" in that the potential customer and the P4P girl can have a brief and private exchange in order for both to better verify whatever is important to them and to better assess the decision to book a meeting.
Personally, I have never "haggled" with a P4P girl on a dating site before setting up an appointment with her. Never needed to and if it ever felt like I was "haggling", I'd close the conversation and move on to the next girl.
Instead, it turns out that many of us, me included I suppose, will have a greater chance of getting positive response to the 1-2 critical details that I need to know before I would even consider booking a P4P girl I have never met in the flesh when I can exchange simple chat pleasantries with her first, more improved chance if I send the girl current photos of me, and even greater chance of positive response when I can engage in no more than one minute of video chatting with her just to say "hi" (and, of course, all of those means of pre-booking personal contact are trumped if I meet them in person first. But that isn't the way an online service like Smooci or a dating site works, right?).
I am not saying I am so good-looking that a girl is unlikely to refuse the 1-2 details that matter to me once she has seen my photos, video chatted with me or met me in person. Rather, I just think most punters would get a more positive response to the 1-2 things they really want in the deal before booking when they can make a personal connection with the girl first. Makes sense, right? Yes, one can book a girl for 3,750+ baht first and then find out when she arrives if this will be one of those times or not. But, again, not much reason to make that bet when there are dating sites that provide a means to fill in the missing piece of prior personal contact and greatly reduce the risk of a bad session where Smooci's business model cannot. Or has not.The basic problem with that is that once they make contact with you, why would they need to go through the service?
It happens enough as it is, but at least the way it's set up now, the ones who want to cheat the service are still paying the fee for having at least one date.
An unscrupulous hooker could just wait to be contacted through the site every night, talk to the John and then just meet up outside the service, eliminating a need to pay the fee and essentially getting free advertising.
What works for ThaiFriendly doesn't necessarily work for Smooci and vice versa.
I see your point, I just don't think it would be conducive to the way their site is set up.
The basic problem with that is that once they make contact with you, why would they need to go through the service?
It happens enough as it is, but at least the way it's set up now, the ones who want to cheat the service are still paying the fee for having at least one date.
An unscrupulous hooker could just wait to be contacted through the site every night, talk to the John and then just meet up outside the service, eliminating a need to pay the fee and essentially getting free advertising.
What works for ThaiFriendly doesn't necessarily work for Smooci and vice versa.
I see your point, I just don't think it would be conducive to the way their site is set up.As I stated in my earlier posts, neither do I. Yet. And for the very same reasons you cited.
But the inability of the prospective customer to engage in some kind of personal and private exchange with the girl re specific requests and live photo/video sharing before committing to a booking (for the benefit of both sides) will provide the ongoing competitive edge to dating sites over any escort service related business model. So it'll have to be faced and dealt with at least as a point of discussion for any such business claiming to be a work in progress and receptive to the idea of overcoming prospective customer objections rather than pretending they aren't there.
Umm. No, suprisingly enough we were refering to the "verified, unedited comments".Are you considering adding Chiang Mai to the list of locations?
I think there is large gap and opportunity for this type of service there.
Are you considering adding Chiang Mai to the list of locations?
I think there is large gap and opportunity for this type of service there.Actually I agreed with you too.
Have demands but lack of supply. I should say not much proper good repute establishment to offer the services from the girls.
In fact from what I know and experienced in Chiangmai before, never lack of supply of girls willing to provide the services. But they need some proper agents or site for them to list on.
As I stated in my earlier posts, neither do I. Yet. And for the very same reasons you cited.
But the inability of the prospective customer to engage in some kind of personal and private exchange with the girl re specific requests and live photo/video sharing before committing to a booking (for the benefit of both sides) will provide the ongoing competitive edge to dating sites over any escort service related business model. So it'll have to be faced and dealt with at least as a point of discussion for any such business claiming to be a work in progress and receptive to the idea of overcoming prospective customer objections rather than pretending they aren't there.I'm not saying it's wrong to give a business input on what they can do to improve their services.
I'm not saying it's wrong to have special requests in how you want your girl.
But Thai Friendly and Smooci are two different types of business set-ups.
Thai Friendly makes ALL of their income off of people who sign up for Premium membership. The girls are free to come and go as they please.
I'm assuming Smooci has some sort of fee, or stipend per call for the girls (either from them or the agency they work for), as the primary income. That means the girls they have available are a premium to them, and they can't afford to lose business to guys / girls who set up appointments outside the system. That would defeat the whole purpose.
Now you CAN, be a premium member, but I would think there are plenty of people who use the system who aren't. You can still find quality girls without it. The majority of people who use a service like smooci, do so for convenience, structured familiarity, and generalized sexual services. You can use the service where you only pay if you find someone you want. It's set up for a mainstream user.
The majority of people who use Thai Friendly are a little more seasoned type of monger. You pay your money for the time, REGARDLESS if you score or not. It's just a free for all. And even then you're still not sure you get what you think you will, and there are no reviews to go by.
An important aspect of services like smooci is to protect the girls. Make it an easy environment to profit from, while still giving the customer as much information as possible.
Because the truth is, these girls DON'T want to negotiate. Very few of these girls give two shits about what WE want. They HATE this business. Even the one's who want to do it right, really don't want to negotiate or have to deviate much from the standard sexual offering.
Smooci gives the one's who want to do it right an opportunity to work it hassle-free, and the REVIEW process is in place to try and keep them up to an acceptable standard.
Opening up a dialogue with customers would mean opening the girls up to the same situation they get when they work on Thai Friendly. "Can you do this?" "Can you do that?" "Can you do it for this much?" "Can my two friends join in for free?
I think we're forgetting how much bullshit these girls have to go through sometimes in dealing with people.
Why wouldn't they just go to Thai Friendly and go through that for FREE?
Can a smooci girl fuck up and not provide BBBJ when she's at your place even though it says it on her profile? YES, and you can review her for it as punishment.
Can a Thai Friendly girl fuck up and not provide BBBJ when she's at your place even though she promised that in conversation beforehand? YES, and then she's free to continue to do that to the others on Thai Friendly.
You get better pictures on smooci, an actual menu, reviews, a set rate, and generally, I would think, a higher standard of professionalism.
If I were to offer suggestions to smooci, they would be:
1) A fee offer button? I could see that.
Maybe even something like eBay, where the girls or agency can set it up to automatically refuse offers below a certain amount. I'm one of those people, I prefer to just buy what it is at the price it is, but I can see how some people might like the idea, and, with no hassle, the girls can say yes or no.
2) (And I'm sure they already TRY and do this) Try to set a higher standard on pictures, even giving the ladies examples of what works best. Maybe even set up a picture day, where you bring in a photographer and they can come in and get their pictures done for free.
3) And video. Geez, it's 2018 and cell phone technology is such that you can shoot in 4 K, you'd think these girls would take advantage of that. Make a nice video, "Hi, my name is Banana, I want to come and see you!" Flash a little boobie, or wiggle their butt. It's not rocket science.
4) (And I'm not sure if they have this already or not) Yes, maybe find a way to communicate to the customer. Get a girl with a good grasp of English to actually be available to talk to the customer if they have questions or requests. Someone who's not actually performing services, but has an understanding of it, as well as an empathy for the customer. (Though I do understand the, uh, liabilities of this as well.).
Just some thoughts.
Because the truth is, these girls DON'T want to negotiate. Very few of these girls give two shits about what WE want. They HATE this business. Even the one's who want to do it right, really don't want to negotiate or have to deviate much from the standard sexual offering.
You get better pictures on smooci, an actual menu, reviews, a set rate, and generally, I would think, a higher standard of professionalism..There is always negotiations if they haven't made any money and are almost broke. I think a girl in this situation would jump at the chance to negotiate. As to photo's, way too many photos on smooci and on the escort websites in my opinion. Thai friendly and even smooci Manila has better 'real photos'.
Franciscass
05-13-18, 04:22
Pics are difficult to verify. Professional lighting, readily available appearance altering apps together with good hairstyling make up and clothes can make anybody appear a lot more attractive than they are. Just check out Instagram for girls you know. So it's difficult for Smooci to control this aspect of the profile. Not so age but enough on that.
An interactive feature would be worthwhile and technically possible but both expensive for Smooci and most likely not something most girls would agree to.
With respect the idea of having a feature to allow bidding for services is on many levels a non starter and in my opinion would lower the tone and sense of professionalism the app currently enjoys.
I would however suggest Smooci could expand escort"s personal details. I notice weight is omitted and I would add shaved or not and whether she has tattoos or breast enhancement both personal turn offs for me.
Can a smooci girl fuck up and not provide BBBJ when she's at your place even though it says it on her profile? YES, and you can review her for it as punishment.
Can a Thai Friendly girl fuck up and not provide BBBJ when she's at your place even though she promised that in conversation beforehand? YES, and then she's free to continue to do that to the others on Thai Friendly.
I prefer the way a ThaiFriendly girl can be punished for not providing what she promised; you reduce the agreed upon payment accordingly. Might even be reduced to zero or cab fare so nominal it is near zero.
Are there any instances of this happening with girls booked through Smooci? Seems to me I read reviews here of girls booked through Smooci who don't really deliver their promised services or do a poor job of it yet they apparently walk away with the full price listed on Smooci, which in all likelihood started out double or more what a similar girl would have agreed to on ThaiFriendly.
Yes, the Smooci girl might get a lower Star Rating from the customer as long as she didn't wow the customer and win him over with a wonderful life story about what a drunk her Thai baby daddy was, how much he beat her and how she needs the money (oh, and a really high Star Rating, please) to help pay for grandpa's third liver transplant.
Yes, the Smooci girl might get a lower Star Rating from the customer as long as she didn't wow the customer and win him over with a wonderful life story about what a drunk her Thai baby daddy was, how much he beat her and how she needs the money (oh, and a really high Star Rating, please) to help pay for grandpa's third liver transplant.Some girls have been on Smooci for months now and haven't gotten any reviews, really have to question if they are that ugly never to be booked or Smooci isn't putting up reviews because of agency's telling them to turn off that feature.
Franciscass
05-13-18, 15:29
Escorts generally are paid within 10 minutes of arrival as against I presume on her way home in the case of Thai Friendly hook ups. That first 10 minutes is therefore important, firstly in deciding whether you want to continue because she is nothing like her profile in looks or age and secondly whether she confirms that her listed services are in fact available. It would not be fair sending her home because she will not provide something not listed such as BBFS or swallowing.
As to quality of service and whether this meets expectations or not and consequently whether the full fee is paid, this is a mute point and very subjective.
With escorts because you have paid upfront forget about money back. Post a review and forget it. In situations where you are paying at the end of the session its obviously up to each of us to do what we feel is appropriate.
Personally I have rarely not paid what I agreed and that would have been because she was behaving very very badly or didn't deliver what was agreed. It would not be because she wasn't very enthusiastic or her skill set wasn't up to par.
I don't know if it's possible to have commonly accepted guidelines as what is acceptable or not but for example saying to the girl here's a 1000 instead of the 2000 we agreed because your blow job was very lackluster and you weren't really into the boom boom I don't feel is the way to go.
Thai Friendly makes ALL of their income off of people who sign up for Premium membership. The girls are free to come and go as they please.
I'm assuming Smooci has some sort of fee, or stipend per call for the girls (either from them or the agency they work for), as the primary income. That means the girls they have available are a premium to them, and they can't afford to lose business to guys / girls who set up appointments outside the system. That would defeat the whole purpose.We only monetize through premium client memberships. We do offer a premium escort membership which offers them more features and promotion, but most agencies and girls operate on the site for free and at the moment the client memberships are by far our main source of income.
We don't take any fee or cut from the booking fees.
I prefer the way a ThaiFriendly girl can be punished for not providing what she promised; you reduce the agreed upon payment accordingly. Might even be reduced to zero or cab fare so nominal it is near zero.
Are there any instances of this happening with girls booked through Smooci? Seems to me I read reviews here of girls booked through Smooci who don't really deliver their promised services or do a poor job of it yet they apparently walk away with the full price listed on Smooci, which in all likelihood started out double or more what a similar girl would have agreed to on ThaiFriendly.
Yes, the Smooci girl might get a lower Star Rating from the customer as long as she didn't wow the customer and win him over with a wonderful life story about what a drunk her Thai baby daddy was, how much he beat her and how she needs the money (oh, and a really high Star Rating, please) to help pay for grandpa's third liver transplant.Smooci is ultimately an Escort directory. We don't have any policies on payments and cancelltions, the companions and agencies set these themselves and this remains between the client and the companion, just as with most other sites. But, yes, we have heard of many many cases where the client wasn't happy and cancelled without paying. We are trying to build a system where companions and agencies rely on reputation. If an agency / companion was sending out fake girls or misleading info and constantly getting cancellations and retreiving cancellation fees, trust me, they woudln't last long on Smooci.
I'd suggest you give Smooci a try. This genuinely isn't an insult, but no one has posted a louder or more opnionated voice on Smooci than yourself, it would be intersting to know your opinion after trying the service. You always bring a very strong opinion on Smooci and you are quite fastidious in picking through what people have previously posted, digging out quotes and sometimes adding your context on those quotes, but most of what you say is based on what others have said, and sometimes not accurate or subject to being a 2nd or 3rd hand experience rather than commenting on personal experience of meeting a girl through Smooci.
Again, don't take this as an insult. We'd be happy to give you a free premium membership and have you actually give Smooci a try in it's current form.
Some girls have been on Smooci for months now and haven't gotten any reviews, really have to question if they are that ugly never to be booked or Smooci isn't putting up reviews because of agency's telling them to turn off that feature.I can guarantee you that we have never pruposely held back, deleted, hidden, or edited any genuine user comments.
The only occassion on which we would hide / removed a comment was when we were under a strong suspicion that a booking was fake / staged and done in order to give a false high rating and good comment. This has happened only a few times and in every occassion it was a positive comment and rating which we were very sure was fake.
It's not possible for agencies or indepdenents to turn off or block comments. Not every client will leave a comment, in fact it's only about half that leave a rating and about half of those that also leave a comment, so it's possible for a girl to have several bookings without having any comments. However it would be strange for a girl to have bookings in the double figures and no reviews. If you notice any girls that seem to have a lot of bookings and no reviews, please let us know and we can look into it.
If there are any posters here that have had a booking through Smooci and have had their comment deleted or edited please speak up and let us know.
Member #4698
05-13-18, 18:57
Again, don't take this as an insult. We'd be happy to give you a free premium membership and have you actually give Smooci a try in it's current form.Hey, where is my free premium membership? 555. Just kidding.
Smooci is ultimately an Escort directory. We don't have any policies on payments and cancelltions, the companions and agencies set these themselves and this remains between the client and the companion, just as with most other sites. But, yes, we have heard of many many cases where the client wasn't happy and cancelled without paying. We are trying to build a system where companions and agencies rely on reputation. If an agency / companion was sending out fake girls or misleading info and constantly getting cancellations and retreiving cancellation fees, trust me, they woudln't last long on Smooci.
I'd suggest you give Smooci a try. This genuinely isn't an insult, but no one has posted a louder or more opnionated voice on Smooci than yourself, it would be intersting to know your opinion after trying the service. You always bring a very strong opinion on Smooci and you are quite fastidious in picking through what people have previously posted, digging out quotes and sometimes adding your context on those quotes, but most of what you say is based on what others have said, and sometimes not accurate or subject to being a 2nd or 3rd hand experience rather than commenting on personal experience of meeting a girl through Smooci.
Again, don't take this as an insult. We'd be happy to give you a free premium membership and have you actually give Smooci a try in it's current form.Thank you for the kind offer. But I prefer to keep things here on a "sharing ideas only" basis without risking compromising that goal by so much as knowingly meeting other posters, especially frequent posters. In a sense, that would apply in this case, too. For example, what value would a positive review of going through the Smooci system prove coming from the guy who had now famously gotten a free premium membership from them? Same with meeting up with other frequent posters. If someone I had met and developed a friendship with read a post from me that struck him as utterly contrary to his experience, he might pull his punches on pointing that out as strongly as he should simply because he and I had become friends.
I certainly understand why you would prefer I comment on a personal experience after having booked a girl through Smooci. As I have mentioned a few times, I have had sessions with girls who appeared on Smooci's website. So I already know how they were with me re the P4P experience. But the positive and negative outcomes had nothing to do with Smooci's website because I didn't meet or arrange them through Smooci, was neither encouraged nor dissuaded by their Star Ratings or their testimonial comments from other posters.
Some girls have been on Smooci for months now and haven't gotten any reviews, really have to question if they are that ugly never to be booked or Smooci isn't putting up reviews because of agency's telling them to turn off that feature.Well, I think nobody can force a customer to give ratings or review if he doesn't want to.
Many customers are this case, and so is myself.
Booked J-Net yesterday evening for 24 hours. Came late due to heavy rain. Spoke a little chit chat and she goes to the bathroom and comes out saying she just got her period. Short apology and puts on her clubbing clothes. Dashes out the door. I guess she didn't want to spend any time with an old guy.
Meanwhile, I tried to call back to Smooci and got rejected call. Tried to text back to Smooci's confirmation system and could not get message to them. Received test stating reservation cancelled. No apologies. No follow up contact from Smooci. I don't know who is flakier, J-Net or Smooci. Just a cautionary story.
Franciscass
05-27-18, 06:58
Booked J-Net yesterday evening for 24 hours. Came late due to heavy rain. Spoke a little chit chat and she goes to the bathroom and comes out saying she just got her period. Short apology and puts on her clubbing clothes. Dashes out the door. I guess she didn't want to spend any time with an old guy.
Meanwhile, I tried to call back to Smooci and got rejected call. Tried to text back to Smooci's confirmation system and could not get message to them. Received test stating reservation cancelled. No apologies. No follow up contact from Smooci. I don't know who is flakier, J-Net or Smooci. Just a cautionary story.Turning down what I imagine was a 10 k gig is a little unusual to say the least. I guess there are two sides to every story but if this is a regular occurrence for J-Net (odd name) and assuming Smooci are following up they should drop her from the roster.
Booked J-Net yesterday evening for 24 hours. Came late due to heavy rain. Spoke a little chit chat and she goes to the bathroom and comes out saying she just got her period. Short apology and puts on her clubbing clothes. Dashes out the door. I guess she didn't want to spend any time with an old guy.
Meanwhile, I tried to call back to Smooci and got rejected call. Tried to text back to Smooci's confirmation system and could not get message to them. Received test stating reservation cancelled. No apologies. No follow up contact from Smooci. I don't know who is flakier, J-Net or Smooci. Just a cautionary story.Hi, sorry to hear you had this experience.
When a booking is made you are given direct contact with the agency / companion and vice versa. Any calls you recieved would be from the companion or agency, and the SMS updates you get are automated so sending reply messages to these will not go through. I'm not sure who you were calling back, but it couldn't have been Smooci.
I understand your disappointment but I think it's a bit unfair to openly label us as being flakey as we ddin't receive any direct contact from you about this. We do have a help email address and can be contacted at contact@smooci.com (visible in the booking form) but we didn't receive any contact from you during this booking. In this instance as the booking had essentially started you should have still received a review form which will allow you to leave a comment and rating (if you didn't please contact us).
When a client or companion cancels a booking we have to respect their decision (for whatever reason that is), and if the other party feels this was unfair we can offer them a chance to leave a review which will warn others. In more serious cases we can also try suspend or ban the other person, and if a client feels they were wrongly charged a cancellation fee, we can also try to help the client communicate wit the agency or companion and try to hold them respponsible to resolve the matter amicably.
If you are a premium member please contact us and we can also fully refund your membership if you are unhappy with our service.
Hi,
How do I register for an account and pay with Bitcoin, I only see the option to pay by credit card?
Pay attention: "we are considering the possibilities of Bit Coin -"
A3
Gigi Buffon
05-29-18, 05:16
Notice that profiles now have a response rate. What does the response rate metric tells?
Hi,
How do I register for an account and pay with Bitcoin, I only see the option to pay by credit card?
Pay attention: "we are considering the possibilities of Bit Coin -"
A3Up until recently we were using Bitpay, but they have now changed their policy and no longer support adult related payments.
We are working on getting a new bitcoin payment system up and running. In the mean time we can accept manual payments to our bitcoin wallet for 1-year memberships. For these payments please contact us direct contact@smooci.com.
Notice that profiles now have a response rate. What does the response rate metric tells?Hmm. I'm guessing right about now you (and perhaps others?) wish there was at least one annoying poster occasionally visiting this thread willing to give it a nudge and ever so politely help to arrive at some kind of answer to that very good question. LOL.
Gigi Buffon
06-04-18, 06:04
Hmm. I'm guessing right about now you (and perhaps others?) wish there was at least one annoying poster occasionally visiting this thread willing to give it a nudge and ever so politely help to arrive at some kind of answer to that very good question. LOL.Funny thing is that I've advocated for Smooci many times, as I've been an early adopter and user of their platform. They can check this by looking into my past posts, but nevermind. My two guesses about the Reponse Rate is percentage of people responding to the survey about escort rating or something related to escort response to a confirmed booking, perhaps relevant when booking an independent, as all the bookings that I've done via Smooci, where the girl is listed by an agency, I have received a call confirming the booking and details from the listing agency.
When a client makes a booking it is sent direct to the companion's app and she has 10 minutes to respond to this or it is automatically rejected (and she is set to offline).
Response rate is the percentage of bookings the companion responds to within the 10 minutes.
When a client makes a booking it is sent direct to the companion's app and she has 10 minutes to respond to this or it is automatically rejected (and she is set to offline).
Response rate is the percentage of bookings the companion responds to within the 10 minutes.I guess that's pretty easy to understand.
Response rates on percentage on the girl's profile is of because on the girl's response to her booking. If not then to what?
What else can one think of? Seriously? Its pretty straight forward, No?
Who cannot understand just by a look, pretty much has the same % of brain juice as a 5 year kid.
Some still can claimed to be seasoned mongers?
I guess that's pretty easy to understand.
Response rates on percentage on the girl's profile is of because on the girl's response to her booking. If not then to what?
What else can one think of? Seriously? Its pretty straight forward, No?
Who cannot understand just by a look, pretty much has the same % of brain juice as a 5 year kid.
Some still can claimed to be seasoned mongers?Yes, then even you could have jumped in ahead of SmoociApp and posted your thorough understanding and explanation of it in the 6-7 days between when the question was posed and when SmoociApp replied, right?
But you didn't. Why not?
Yes, then even you could have jumped in ahead of SmoociApp and posted your thorough understanding and explanation of it in the 6-7 days between when the question was posed and when SmoociApp replied, right?
But you didn't. Why not?This forum seems to delay some posts. I. e. When we posted about bitpay / bitcoin payments the question from Gigi wasn't showing, even though when it did show it appeared before our response.
I think this can cause a few posts to get missed by some users.
This forum seems to delay some posts. I. e. When we posted about bitpay / bitcoin payments the question from Gigi wasn't showing, even though when it did show it appeared before our response.
I think this can cause a few posts to get missed by some users.I understand and agree that can and does happen here sometimes.
Ok, let's see if Tiandihui chimes in with that exact same reply too now that he has read your posting of it because, ya' know, anyone with the same % or more brain juice as a 5 year old kid can figure that out on their own. LOL.
NewbExcited
06-06-18, 16:36
When a client makes a booking it is sent direct to the companion's app and she has 10 minutes to respond to this or it is automatically rejected (and she is set to offline).
Response rate is the percentage of bookings the companion responds to within the 10 minutes.Do you still recommend going with girls who are rated 4.5 and over? I remember reading your comments about it last year and wanted to check if the rating system is still the same.
Yes, then even you could have jumped in ahead of SmoociApp and posted your thorough understanding and explanation of it in the 6-7 days between when the question was posed and when SmoociApp replied, right?
But you didn't. Why not?Hahahaha, because I don't have the same number or level of leisure time as you to spend it in here all the time. If you have it, then is your blessing, hopefully. Money can buy most thing but not time. I don't waste too much time on "entertaining" parts.
Of because I also not those who standing by by the forum to see who replying to my comments and to reply to others. But of because, this might be some one's else "Hobby" .
Do you still recommend going with girls who are rated 4.5 and over? I remember reading your comments about it last year and wanted to check if the rating system is still the same.I've used smooci, 3 days membership, in the past and will use them again for my upcoming trip. $10 isn't that much to drop to read reviews. However, that being said, some reviews are not helpful at all, short 1-2 sentences that do not tell anything. Read them and make your own conclusions. No, I'm not associated with smooci, I just don't write much on here.
Do you still recommend going with girls who are rated 4.5 and over? I remember reading your comments about it last year and wanted to check if the rating system is still the same.If I was chosing a girl I'd first work out my budget and then rule out anyone outside of this. In general I'd limit my first choices to girls who had 30+ votes and scored over 4, maybe over 4. 5 if there was still enough choice. Then I'd read through the comments and get the jist on what the highlight was for each girl and make my final choice.
A lot of guys have a specific look and / or servcie they go for, so this will limit girls down, plus some guys book a lot of girls and enjoying going for the newer girls on the site. But if you are looking for a one off experience and want good odds on having a good time, I'd limit it to the girls who have had lots of ratings and comments and still score over 4. 5.
Hahahaha, because I don't have the same number or level of leisure time as you to spend it in here all the time. If you have it, then is your blessing, hopefully. Money can buy most thing but not time. I don't waste too much time on "entertaining" parts.
Of because I also not those who standing by by the forum to see who replying to my comments and to reply to others. But of because, this might be some one's else "Hobby" .Very good. Then I hope you are available to answer any and all followup questions about the topic of the Response Rating, should they arise, based on SmoociApp's reply so far. Personally, I suspect there might be 1-2 of those to come someday. If they do, SmoociApp and everyone else could then take comfort in knowing you will be there to handle and answer them fully and accurately.
After all, I saw that you had been lurking on this site long enough to read and post on another thread during the time in question. So you must find time to come here despite your busy schedule.
We are happy to announce that we have launched our new 'online notifications' feature.
Clients can now view the offline Escorts and set alerts to be notified when that companion next comes online. The alerts can be set for 12,24, and 48 hours, and clients will be notified by email the moment that Escort next comes online and available to be booked.
When you places an online notification, an instant message is also sent to the escort, letting her know a client is interested in booking her, encouraging her to come online if available.
http://blog.smooci.com/post/online-notifications
Thailand is based on barter negotiation if I can do it on the agency's website and the girl accepts a lower price why can't we do it on your app? It's being done at the agency level on their websites why not yours? Off-season girls are accepting less then the agencies charge why not on your website also? A girl asking 4000 on your website might accept 3500 if things are very slow. Your discount might not be as low as they will go.
AdvancedPerson
06-16-18, 22:49
At Smooci.
Any tentative date on when you will be available in Pattaya?
Thailand is based on barter negotiation if I can do it on the agency's website and the girl accepts a lower price why can't we do it on your app? It's being done at the agency level on their websites why not yours? Off-season girls are accepting less then the agencies charge why not on your website also? A girl asking 4000 on your website might accept 3500 if things are very slow. Your discount might not be as low as they will go.The companions have the option to very quickly and easily adjust their rates, and a small number of girls do seem to lower their rates during the quieter periods. Ultimately, a big part of our concept is to deliver a high percentage of confirmed bookings (limiting the chat and negotiations, and heavily cuttnig out the timewasters). We are also trying to create a system to take to a more global market.
With that said, having the ability to make offers / bids is something we have considered and we will look into it again once we get ahead of a few other tech tasks and features. We may be able to give girls the option of receiving bids / offers, allowing clients to request bookings at alternative rates.
At Smooci.
Any tentative date on when you will be available in Pattaya?We are planning to launch in Hong Kong on 29th of this month, but we don't yet have a date set for Pattaya.
Our target is to get well established in at least 4 countries before developing existing countries, and once that is achieved Pattaya will be a high priority, potentailly followed by Phuket, and Cebu in PH.
AstoraDick
06-19-18, 10:39
I know that we can arrange a threesome with companions servicing couple with twice the price.
But if I were to hire companions solely through Smooci for threesome then I'd be looking to pay quadruple the price.
Not to mention the risk of running into companions with deceptive profile description or 10-15 years older than her real age (I. E. Emma from EscortBKK).
Is there any plan to introduce more efficient threesome services into the platform? Before expanding into other market at least?
And also any plan to introduce more companions with unlimited shots for long time, like 6-12 hours, from other agencies?
I know that we can arrange a threesome with companions servicing couple with twice the price.
But if I were to hire companions solely through Smooci for threesome then I'd be looking to pay quadruple the price.
Not to mention the risk of running into companions with deceptive profile description or 10-15 years older than her real age (I. E. Emma from EscortBKK).
Is there any plan to introduce more efficient threesome services into the platform? Before expanding into other market at least?
And also any plan to introduce more companions with unlimited shots for long time, like 6-12 hours, from other agencies?Regaridng duos; we don't have a new solution for duo bookings. It's something we will continue to look into but at the moment the suggestion is to select one agency, contact them in advance for advice / recommendations, and then make two bookings, adding an explanation in the notes to give each companion a heads up.
Regarding age; we will be adding age verification. This will give companion the option to verify their age and submit their ID. We will then lock their age to their verified date of birth. This will be option but verified ages will be highighted on the profiles and search results and we will introduce some ways to reward companions who do this.
Regarding shots; the companions / agencies control the number of shots they offer. We try to make recommendations in order to increase shots and lower prices. These suggestions calculate the average shots / prices and then make suggestions for more competetive rates / shots. But ultimately we allow the companions to select their rates and shots as they please.
Franciscass
06-20-18, 03:44
Regarding age; we will be adding age verification. This will give companion the option to verify their age and submit their ID. We will then lock their age to their verified date of birth. This will be option but verified ages will be highighted on the profiles and search results and we will introduce some ways to reward companions who do this.Right on Smooci. While it's not a total fix, at least now punters can decide whether to book escorts who refuse to submit their ID for age verification. I know I won't be booking any who don't.
We have set up a Twitter feed which will be used as a tool to highlight the best performers, hot new girls, discounts and offers on girls, and important site updates.
The site will post when:
- A girl gets 3 x 5 star reviews in a row.
- A new girl gets her first rating (a high ratings only).
- A girl / agency offers discounts or exclusive lower rates.
- The site offers free or discounted membership.
- Important site updates and expansions.
We hope this will prove to be a useful extra tool for clients, highlighting the best talent and best prices.
Follow us here https://twitter.com/smooci.
We have set up a Twitter feed which will be used as a tool to highlight the best performers, hot new girls, discounts and offers on girls, and important site updates.
The site will post when:
- A girl gets 3 x 5 star reviews in a row.
- A new girl gets her first rating (a high ratings only).
- A girl / agency offers discounts or exclusive lower rates.
- The site offers free or discounted membership.
- Important site updates and expansions.
We hope this will prove to be a useful extra tool for clients, highlighting the best talent and best prices.
Follow us here https://twitter.com/smooci.This doesn't really help as reviews and 1st review could be faked. I tend to notice new girl that sit on the website without any customers for X period of time; getting a 5.0 on their first review. This lures others to book the provider only to have their score drop and drop, because provider's image, review, etc. Are inaccurate. I won't name which providers, but I seen a few. I been using smooci for a year now, and I would rather have improvements on the website beside this Twitter non-sense. Basically, accurate and up-to-date pictures. It would be nice once you have implemented the age verification portion.
This doesn't really help as reviews and 1st review could be faked. I tend to notice new girl that sit on the website without any customers for X period of time; getting a 5.0 on their first review. This lures others to book the provider only to have their score drop and drop, because provider's image, review, etc. Are inaccurate. I won't name which providers, but I seen a few. I been using smooci for a year now, and I would rather have improvements on the website beside this Twitter non-sense. Basically, accurate and up-to-date pictures. It would be nice once you have implemented the age verification portion.I'm not sure I fully understand what you are saying. The twitter feed is an optional extra way for regular clients to get alerted to new girls and girls who are having a good run of reviews. I don't quite see the negative.
Launching the twitter doesn't stop or reverse any Smooci developments. It only highlights girls who we feel have earned some attention. If you are attracted to any it would take you to her profile where you can look through all her previous comments and ratings. Nothing is hdden or misleading.
The possiblity of fake bookings is something we've worked on and tweaked quite a lot. While it is possible to make a fake booking/review it is very difficult. Not only is it time consuming and would take up more effort than it is worth, we have things in place to stop fake bookings and we don't believe that this is an issue. If it does happen is is very rare and one fake booking cannot remove previous bookings.
A review form is only sent out if and when a booking was traced and lasted a set amount of time. The system then takes into consideration whether the client is premium, their previous bookings history, and if their is any suspicion that the booking was fake the review is held back (usually until that client completes another booking with a different girl (and not the same agency)). The system also takes into consideration how many bookings the companion has had, and if it is a companion's first booking and there is the slightest hint that it is a fake booking, that review and rating would at the very least be held back until she had achieved to more reviews which were not fake.
AstoraDick
08-07-18, 19:16
Any progress on age verification?
Regaridng duos; we don't have a new solution for duo bookings. It's something we will continue to look into but at the moment the suggestion is to select one agency, contact them in advance for advice / recommendations, and then make two bookings, adding an explanation in the notes to give each companion a heads up.
Regarding age; we will be adding age verification. This will give companion the option to verify their age and submit their ID. We will then lock their age to their verified date of birth. This will be option but verified ages will be highighted on the profiles and search results and we will introduce some ways to reward companions who do this.
Regarding shots; the companions / agencies control the number of shots they offer. We try to make recommendations in order to increase shots and lower prices. These suggestions calculate the average shots / prices and then make suggestions for more competetive rates / shots. But ultimately we allow the companions to select their rates and shots as they please.
Any progress on age verification?We have a bit of a backlog tech wise but it will come.
We are currently working on an iOS app version for the escorts (currently it's only andoird), and we are adding a few additional safety features. But age verification is still on the list of updates to come.
We have a bit of a backlog tech wise but it will come.
We are currently working on an iOS app version for the escorts (currently it's only andoird), and we are adding a few additional safety features. But age verification is still on the list of updates to come.You've got some great talent on your website, I've noticed they tend not to age at all after being on your site for over a year. Must be premium members only. Birthdays come, birthdays go except if your listed on Smooci then your that age forever. Like a time machine.
Franciscass
08-10-18, 06:44
Come on Smooci, this is an issue from launch. If you were serious about including it, it would be in place by now. Its not difficult. Obviously compared to rolling out the platform across new markets you don't see it as a priority. Pity.
You've got some great talent on your website, I've noticed they tend not to age at all after being on your site for over a year. Must be premium members only. Birthdays come, birthdays go except if your listed on Smooci then your that age forever. Like a time machine.We have only been launched just over 18 months and independents only 6 months so we don't have many girls who have worked more than a year. But it is correct that the first version of the girls app asks for age and not date of birth. That will be corrected as soon as we launch the age verification option.
I do hope that once you get around to getting age verification working you can fix this small issue of Soda being 22 back in 2015 and 22 in 2018. Found via http://web.archive.org/.
I do hope that once you get around to getting age verification working you can fix this small issue of Soda being 22 back in 2015 and 22 in 2018. Found via http://web.archive.org/.That's not the Smooci. We only launched at the end of 2017.
That's not the Smooci. We only launched at the end of 2017.Didn't say it was your website but it is a girl on your website that obviously isn't the age that she is listed.
Franciscass
08-12-18, 02:50
We have only been launched just over 18 months and independents only 6 months so we don't have many girls who have worked more than a year. But it is correct that the first version of the girls app asks for age and not date of birth. That will be corrected as soon as we launch the age verification option.My sense is Smooci are dragging their heels on age verification because they know it's a problem for the escorts. I would hazard a guess and say listed age profiles are almost uniformly inaccurate so asking them to provide proof of age is a nonstarter. In fairness this is not particular to Smooci, it applies to all escorts sites worldwide but come on people be the leader and give it a shot. Perhaps enhance the attraction and include it only for premium.
Didn't say it was your website but it is a girl on your website that obviously isn't the age that she is listed.We are hoping the optional age verification will help tackle things like that. While we won't force girls to lock in their date of birth we will highlight those who do.
AdvancedPerson
08-13-18, 00:15
Hello Smooci,
I was wondering if you put in a tentative date for Pattaya or have started gathering the contacts yet.
Any info on this would be really appreciated.
Has anyone else noticed that Full Service (FS) is no longer included among the services offered by the girls on Smooci? Unless there is some very weird thing happening with my computer or the terminology has changed without my noticing, it appears no girl on Smooci offers FS anymore and you cannot filter for FS.
For 2 hour Short Times in Bangkok, there a 27 year old girl right now (ketty) with a 4.9 Star Rating who only offers BBBJ, COB, DATY, DFK, Guide and Massage for 4,000 baht, not even CIM. Another girl (Plang, 20) is rated at 4.7 Stars and only offers two things, COB and DFK, for 3,750 baht. Another one (sea, 25 years old, no Star Rating yet) only offers BBBJ, COB, DFK, Guide and Massage for 8,000 baht!
26 year old Veranika only provides BBBJ, DFK and Massage for 5,500 baht. And for that she has earned a 5.0 Star Rating.
On the upside, I think they are all praised for always responding within 10 minutes. LOL. I would imagine so.
Has anyone else noticed that Full Service (FS) is no longer included among the services offered by the girls on Smooci? Unless there is some very weird thing happening with my computer or the terminology has changed without my noticing, it appears no girl on Smooci offers FS anymore and you cannot filter for FS.
For 2 hour Short Times in Bangkok, there a 27 year old girl right now (ketty) with a 4.9 Star Rating who only offers BBBJ, COB, DATY, DFK, Guide and Massage for 4,000 baht, not even CIM. Another girl (Plang, 20) is rated at 4.7 Stars and only offers two things, COB and DFK, for 3,750 baht. Another one (sea, 25 years old, no Star Rating yet) only offers BBBJ, COB, DFK, Guide and Massage for 8,000 baht!
26 year old Veranika only provides BBBJ, DFK and Massage for 5,500 baht. And for that she has earned a 5.0 Star Rating.
On the upside, I think they are all praised for always responding within 10 minutes. LOL. I would imagine so.FS is still offered, just harder to know if it's actually on the table or not. Maybe they did it for legal purposes or whatever, hard to tell due to lack of notification besides the twitter thing. Another update they did was asking for hotel info before you can search. Time wasted step when I just want to search real quick if a WG is active or not.
Has anyone else noticed that Full Service (FS) is no longer included among the services offered by the girls on Smooci? Unless there is some very weird thing happening with my computer or the terminology has changed without my noticing, it appears no girl on Smooci offers FS anymore and you cannot filter for FS.
For 2 hour Short Times in Bangkok, there a 27 year old girl right now (ketty) with a 4.9 Star Rating who only offers BBBJ, COB, DATY, DFK, Guide and Massage for 4,000 baht, not even CIM. Another girl (Plang, 20) is rated at 4.7 Stars and only offers two things, COB and DFK, for 3,750 baht. Another one (sea, 25 years old, no Star Rating yet) only offers BBBJ, COB, DFK, Guide and Massage for 8,000 baht!
26 year old Veranika only provides BBBJ, DFK and Massage for 5,500 baht. And for that she has earned a 5.0 Star Rating.
On the upside, I think they are all praised for always responding within 10 minutes. LOL. I would imagine so.We were receiving a lot of contacts from clients who didn't understand what full service meant, due to the fact that many girls were not selecting it. To save confusion for now we have removed it for now.
We would prefer to not comment on individual girls on this thread, but we can guarantee you that no ratings or comments are fake or edited. A companion may change their details, phots, services, or rates at any time but the comments and ratings will remain visible.
Hello Smooci,
I was wondering if you put in a tentative date for Pattaya or have started gathering the contacts yet.
Any info on this would be really appreciated.We understand the high demand for the Pattaya launch and we are hoping to launch it in Oct / Nov. Our goal has alway been to get established in at least 3-4 more countries before expanding locally in Thailand, and we are due for our current tech developments to be complete around mid October. After this we will have scheduled launches for several European locations too.
My sense is Smooci are dragging their heels on age verification because they know it's a problem for the escorts. I would hazard a guess and say listed age profiles are almost uniformly inaccurate so asking them to provide proof of age is a nonstarter. In fairness this is not particular to Smooci, it applies to all escorts sites worldwide but come on people be the leader and give it a shot. Perhaps enhance the attraction and include it only for premium.Not at all. Our motivation is to create the best possible platform for genuine escorts and clients. We want to create more verified informmation but also understand the trends of creative license with information in the escort industry. We aren't purposely protecting any use of misinformation but we don't want to be too heavy handed and are looking to ease in long term solutions.
We are actually testing the age verification today and expect to have it implemented and live by the end of the week, or early next week.
Smooci really took off much quicker than expected and in terms of tech development we have a small but skilled team and many ideas and improvements we are working on. We understand we can be a bit slow on some promised updates, but I can guarantee you we are working hard and moving in the right direction.
Franciscass
08-15-18, 03:36
Has anyone else noticed that Full Service (FS) is no longer included among the services offered by the girls on Smooci? Unless there is some very weird thing happening with my computer or the terminology has changed without my noticing, it appears no girl on Smooci offers FS anymore and you cannot filter for FS.With respect I feel it's a given that a session with an escort includes as standard covered vaginal sex. Other reasonably expected services need to be explained such as is the BJ covered, where / how you can ejaculate, is DFK and receiving and giving oral included. More specific services such as anal cannot be assumed.
Applaud Smooci on planning to roll out age verification. May I suggest they include in their escort profiles weight and whether shaved or not, a personal predilection of mine.
Franciscass
08-15-18, 08:54
We want to create more verified informmation but also understand the trends of creative license with information in the escort industry. We aren't purposely protecting any use of misinformation but we don't want to be too heavy handed and are looking to ease in long term solutions.Not sure what you mean by "understand the trends of creative license". I get it most escort"s profiles on booking sites particularly on age and pics are misleading, that's why we look to Smooci to be the leader in transparency. You transformed the booking process why not the accuracy of what to expect when you open the door. Not easy I know but doable.
We were receiving a lot of contacts from clients who didn't understand what full service meant, due to the fact that many girls were not selecting it. To save confusion for now we have removed it for now.Yes, there were always several girls who never listed Full Service (FS) as an offered service. Now that FS is not mentioned at all, does that mean the 1,000-1,500 baht Cancellation Fee On Arrival is waved if the girl shows up and says, sorry I don't do that and did not say I would?
With respect I feel it's a given that a session with an escort includes as standard covered vaginal sex. Other reasonably expected services need to be explained such as is the BJ covered, where / how you can ejaculate, is DFK and receiving and giving oral included. More specific services such as anal cannot be assumed.
Applaud Smooci on planning to roll out age verification. May I suggest they include in their escort profiles weight and whether shaved or not, a personal predilection of mine.It might be a given in the minds of many, but I see that some version of FS, Full Service, Vaginal Sex, Safe Sex (covered), etc. is still clearly stated as an individual service offered by each girl in their profiles on most of the escort services' original websites. So it apparently isn't confusing to the customers booking through those sites instead of through Smooci or to the girls. I also see what appears to be a resurgence of the term "GFE", even "Ultimate GFE" on a few Bangkok escort services' websites, occasionally instead of terms like FS, Full Service, Vaginal Sex, etc. Not sure I see that as a good thing since those terms only mean whatever the girl thinks they mean and not one lick, suck or poke more, covered or uncovered.
BTW, I fully support your suggestion about including Shaved or Not. I know some men like and prefer a thick jungle down there. But that number and percentage must be dwarfed by those who much prefer shaved or at least very, very closely trimmed. I rarely meet a punter who doesn't make an icky face and shake off the heebie-jeebies when relating a story about encountering a hairy bush girl. It is one of the reasons knowing precisely whether or not a girl does indeed perform a genuine BBBJ+CIM is so important to me. If a girl drops her drawers and she's got a hairy bush, I am no longer the least bit interested in fighting through that mess to engage in DATY or even FS. So the BBBJ+CIM option is the only thing left to save the day for me.
Stating whether or not she is shaved or hairy will also help the hairy girls get booked by those rare men who actually prefer such a thing. May they both live happily ever after together.
Franciscass
08-15-18, 15:55
Stating whether or not she is shaved or hairy will also help the hairy girls get booked by those rare men who actually prefer such a thing. May they both live happily ever after together.I feel we can agree Smooci is a great platform for ease of booking but there is room for improvement when it comes to listing escorts profiles and exactly what services they are offering. Agree excluding FS can be confusing. Added to shaven or not could be breast enhanced or not in most instances a personal dislike of mine.
Have to say I love the new proximity addition to your website. Its nice to know which girls might take longer to reach you with traffic if you just want a quicky. I see that its free for everyone to see those girls who show their location although some girls aren't shown with a distance. I did check the Manila section and most of the girls there seemed to be showing how far away they are. It does add that little extra help in planning if you know how far away the girl is you want to see and understand the traffic backups at certain times. If you have premium membership do all the girls show up with distances to your hotel?
Have to say I love the new proximity addition to your website. Its nice to know which girls might take longer to reach you with traffic if you just want a quicky. I see that its free for everyone to see those girls who show their location although some girls aren't shown with a distance. I did check the Manila section and most of the girls there seemed to be showing how far away they are. It does add that little extra help in planning if you know how far away the girl is you want to see and understand the traffic backups at certain times. If you have premium membership do all the girls show up with distances to your hotel?We haven't fully rolled out the search by distance, but we hoipe to have it fully active before the autumn. This should help maklng booking arrivals more accurate, especially for guys wanting to book girls more immediately, or those not based in central areas. We are also trying to factire in the time and traffic.
This will help us allow girls to join who are based outside central Bangkok (and similarly with Manila and other larger cities). Manila is a good example as the main booking areas seem to be spread out, girls are spread out even furtehr, and traffic can play a huge factor.
Member #4698
08-15-18, 17:56
Before we go way too far into the weeds on this, I have one question: Has ANYONE personally ever had a Smooci girl refuse to give him full service?
I think the answer is so obvious that I see no point in belaboring the issue. Everybody knows that covered vaginal intercourse is the default universally agreed upon standard service and all the girls do it UNLESS the customer wants something else (something less) like holding hands, a hand job, or blow job. CIM is not usually a viable substitute. Neither is anal sex unless the girl agrees to it beforehand which in LOS is rare. So, I would be very surprised if any Smooci customers reading this have experienced a full-service rejection unless there was something very wrong with him or his penis.
I would, however, assume that the question of not living up to all the services listed as available is a more common issue concerning the lesser services like BBBJ's and DFK. A lot of items are listed on a girl's page, but that individual girl may not perform every one of those things in the bedroom with a particular client. The point being; nothing is absolutely guaranteed anywhere for anything. Not from a Smooci girl, a Go Go girl, a massage girl, or a FL. Most experienced punters know this. That is why we engage a girl in conversation and a little flirtation before we make a deal, so we can assess her personality, the chemistry between us, and the likelihood that the possible upcoming tryst will be a good one. This is the major drawback of the escort business model although I take note that Smooci does offer a 10 minute decision period in which to decide whether to keep the girl or send her back. I wonder what the percentages of rejecting a girl upon arrival are.
Otherwise a Smooci customer's only other recourse when he is not given all the services promised on the website and requested in the loom, is to make a formal complaint or post a negative review. But remember, it is always the attitude of the girl that is the most important factor. A girl with a good attitude is likely to provide good service. A girl with a bad attitude yada yada yada.
Again, I assume that in 99.999% of Smooci appointments, covered vaginal intercourse is at least offered by the girl. Now whether it is any good or not, ha ha, that is another question.
Before we go way too far into the weeds on this, I have one question: Has ANYONE personally ever had a Smooci girl refuse to give him full service?
I think the answer is so obvious that I see no point in belaboring the issue. Everybody knows that covered vaginal intercourse is the default universally agreed upon standard service and all the girls do it UNLESS the customer wants something else (something less) like holding hands, a hand job, or blow job. CIM is not usually a viable substitute. Neither is anal sex unless the girl agrees to it beforehand which in LOS is rare. So, I would be very surprised if any Smooci customers reading this have experienced a full-service rejection unless there was something very wrong with him or his penis.
I would, however, assume that the question of not living up to all the services listed as available is a more common issue concerning the lesser services like BBBJ's and DFK. A lot of items are listed on a girl's page, but that individual girl may not perform every one of those things in the bedroom with a particular client. The point being; nothing is absolutely guaranteed anywhere for anything. Not from a Smooci girl, a Go Go girl, a massage girl, or a FL. Most experienced punters know this. That is why we engage a girl in conversation and a little flirtation before we make a deal, so we can assess her personality, the chemistry between us, and the likelihood that the possible upcoming tryst will be a good one. This is the major drawback of the escort business model although I take note that Smooci does offer a 10 minute decision period in which to decide whether to keep the girl or send her back. I wonder what the percentages of rejecting a girl upon arrival are.
Otherwise a Smooci customer's only other recourse when he is not given all the services promised on the website and requested in the loom, is to make a formal complaint or post a negative review. But remember, it is always the attitude of the girl that is the most important factor. A girl with a good attitude is likely to provide good service. A girl with a bad attitude yada yada yada.
Again, I assume that in 99.999% of Smooci appointments, covered vaginal intercourse is at least offered by the girl. Now whether it is any good or not, ha ha, that is another question.Thanks for the response.
Since launching independents several months ago we received weekly, almost daily contacts from clients and companions asking about Full Service. Many didn't understand what it means and many companions didn't select it. The was causing too much confusions and we found that many other sites don't use the term so we decided to drop it for now.
Companions must select at least one service to be able to go online, and we agree that the vast majority of clients and companions understand that as an escort platform full protected intercourse is expected (at least in the current launch areas). It has helped ease that previous issue, but of course if any other issues arrise from this we will try to address them quickly and adapt and review it again.
Before we go way too far into the weeds on this, I have one question: Has ANYONE personally ever had a Smooci girl refuse to give him full service?
I think the answer is so obvious that I see no point in belaboring the issue. Everybody knows that covered vaginal intercourse is the default universally agreed upon standard service and all the girls do it UNLESS the customer wants something else (something less) like holding hands, a hand job, or blow job.Of course, I would imagine that up until now the vast majority of men booking an escort through Smooci or through any other escort service site who is interested in FS would have booked a girl whose profile states she provides FS and not a girl who does not state it. Doing a quick search through several escort service sites, I only found one that did not state clearly whether or not their girls offered FS, Full Service, Vaginal Sex, etc. All the others I found say it clearly for each girl. And I used the escort services associated with the girls on Smooci in my search. So it is stated clearly for each girl on their original escort site, but not on Smooci. It would be interesting to know if all of those escort sites got as many questions and confusion about the meaning of Full Service (FS) as Smooci has apparently gotten. And for how many years without them taking the step to eliminate it from their site. Or, rather, all but the one that I found not eliminating it. Didn't the words "Sexual Intercourse" or something like that come up when someone moved their cursor over the term "FS" on Smooci?
And the issue might not evolve to be merely whether or not FS is refused, but whether girls will now consider it "off the menu" (which it most definitely is at this moment) and therefore up for discussion, renegotiation and upcharging for it in the room.
Here is why it matters and ought to matter even for punters who have not yet been effected by it, Natty. All of these P4P platforms eventually influence the entire industry in a particular destination for good or ill. There is a ripple effect. Always. And it is often only up to wary punters to put an end to something highly questionable before it becomes a new "standard" to the detriment of punters. What was assumed to be "standard" can be easily and quickly dropped from the program or be charged extra for when the establishments support the change and the girls see an obvious opportunity to exploit it. Whether it is Pay Upfront in one venue that sounds very interesting to others, upcharging for A+, recoiling in horror by the very thought of DFK, no removal of lower clothing, covered BJ or no CIM in this or that BJ Bar and on and on. My fellow punters, you sit in silence and blithely accept these things at your monetary and sexual pleasure peril.
I am not saying every move and change must be the result of evil intent. But even changes made with the best of intentions can go wrong soon enough. And not just for that one venue. IMHO, any and all changes are worth questioning and considering where it could lead unless it is overwhelmingly obvious it will right now benefit the punter. Frankly, I don't see the inclusion of the term Full Service or the simple two letters (FS) or even if you have to spell it out as "Vaginal Sex" as a heavy burden for any website, especially when the potential customer's cursor moving over it defines it exactly the same way the terms COB, DATY and so on are described and while there is ample room all over the website to provide a glossary of terms to handle whatever the customer service reps over at Smooci are annoyed by all that much. Sorry, but I suspect there is more to this sudden new problem with this rather simple concept and long accepted method of assuring FS is on the table at the prices listed that is not being revealed just yet (yep, maybe not even to Smooci!) and has almost zero chance of being better for the punter partaking of Smooci and other venues around town in the long run.
Of course, I would imagine that up until now the vast majority of men booking an escort through Smooci or through any other escort service site who is interested in FS would have booked a girl whose profile states she provides FS and not a girl who does not state it. Doing a quick search through several escort service sites, I only found one that did not state clearly whether or not their girls offered FS, Full Service, Vaginal Sex, etc. All the others I found say it clearly for each girl. And I used the escort services associated with the girls on Smooci in my search. So it is stated clearly for each girl on their original escort site, but not on Smooci. It would be interesting to know if all of those escort sites got as many questions and confusion about the meaning of Full Service (FS) as Smooci has apparently gotten. And for how many years without them taking the step to eliminate it from their site. Or, rather, all but the one that I found not eliminating it. Didn't the words "Sexual Intercourse" or something like that come up when someone moved their cursor over the term "FS" on Smooci?
And the issue might not evolve to be merely whether or not FS is refused, but whether girls will now consider it "off the menu" (which it most definitely is at this moment) and therefore up for discussion, renegotiation and upcharging for it in the room.
Here is why it matters and ought to matter even for punters who have not yet been effected by it, Natty. All of these P4P platforms eventually influence the entire industry in a particular destination for good or ill. There is a ripple effect. Always. And it is often only up to wary punters to put an end to something highly questionable before it becomes a new "standard" to the detriment of punters. What was assumed to be "standard" can be easily and quickly dropped from the program or be charged extra for when the establishments support the change and the girls see an obvious opportunity to exploit it. Whether it is Pay Upfront in one venue that sounds very interesting to others, upcharging for A+, recoiling in horror by the very thought of DFK, no removal of lower clothing in this or that BJ Bar and on and on.
I am not saying every move and change must be the result of evil intent. But even changes made with the best of intentions can go wrong soon enough. And not just for that one venue. IMHO, any and all changes are worth questioning and considering where it could lead unless it is overwhelmingly obvious it will right now benefit the punter. Frankly, I don't see the inclusion of the term Full Service or the simple two letters (FS) or even if you have to spell it out as "Vaginal Sex" as a heavy burden for any website, especially when the potential customer's cursor moving over it defines it exactly the same way the terms COB, DATY and so on are described and while there is ample room all over the website to provide a glossary of terms to handle whatever the customer service reps over at Smooci are annoyed by all that much. Sorry, but I suspect there is more to this sudden new problem with this rather simple concept and long accepted method of assuring FS is on the table at the prices listed that is not being revealed just yet (yep, maybe not even to Smooci!) and has almost zero chance of being better for the punter in the long run.I'm not sure why you always have such a negative opinion of Smooci. You admittedly never used Smooci and don't plan to but you follow the threads very closely and are keen to jump in with a negative and strong opinion whenever you can. We even offered to give you a free account to try it but you declined. It's hard to keep this thread being useful when the dominant response we get is from a guy who has never actually used the service and doesn't plan to.
What you are saying is incorrect. The decision to remove the term 'full service' wasn't done on impulse, we had been considering it for some time and looked at our top 10 competitors (directories and escort listings) and only 3 used the term 'full service' as an option. We took the option to remove it for a month to see if that eased the issue (it was genuinely confusing a lot of clients and companions) and so far it seems to have eased the problem. If we start seeing any issues we will look at re-adding it and forcing it on all profiles.
I'm afraid there really is no hidden agenda or secret motive and the person outspoken about the removal of the term full seems to be a guy who never has or never will use our service.
I'm not sure why you always have such a negative opinion of Smooci. You admittedly never used Smooci and don't plan to but you follow the threads very closely and are keen to jump in with a negative and strong opinion whenever you can. We even offered to give you a free account to try it but you declined. It's hard to keep this thread being useful when the dominant response we get is from a guy who has never actually used the service and doesn't plan to.
What you are saying is incorrect. The decision to remove the term 'full service' wasn't done on impulse, we had been considering it for some time and looked at our top 10 competitors (directories and escort listings) and only 3 used the term 'full service' as an option. We took the option to remove it for a month to see if that eased the issue (it was genuinely confusing a lot of clients and companions) and so far it seems to have eased the problem. If we start seeing any issues we will look at re-adding it and forcing it on all profiles.
I'm afraid there really is no hidden agenda or secret motive and the person outspoken about the removal of the term full seems to be a guy who never has or never will use our service.You know I have been quite positive about Smooci before. And I am not being negative about it here, only asking questions. The reason it matters to me, whether I ever used Smooci or not, and why I feel it ought to matter to anyone partaking of P4P in the area is stated in my post you just quoted. It would matter to me what one go-go bar tried to establish as a new "standard" even though I might not ever have stepped foot in that particular go-go bar. As of this moment, when a young lady considering entering the freelancer or escort scene in Bangkok goes online to see how it is done on the escort services' websites, probably being directed to Smooci, she has every reason to conclude that girls are asking and getting 3,000+ baht for 1-2 hours alone with a dude where they don't even have to fuck or provide a CIM finish to a BJ. How is that "better" and not potentially detrimental for any punter meeting girls in bars, trolling the streets for FLs or arranging hookups with girls on dating sites even if that punter has never heard of Smooci?
Is there someone at Smooci making sure that is all cleared up and well understood for every new 20 year old companion sign up that comes along? What words do they use for it so as not to create any confusion or misunderstanding?
My questions might annoy you because I pursue the answers more diligently than you prefer I suppose. Maybe that comes across as "negative", but it is not meant to be. But, frankly, that is because your answers are often a bit strange. You bury and essentially hide deep into the blog on your site the very good (my assessment of them, remember?) examples for what might deserve a 5 Star Rating vs a 1 Star Rating along with the explanation that a 1 Star Rating is the worst you can give (and not "no" rating), examples that would go a long way to giving the Star Ratings a more coherent and useful meaning rather than putting them on a page and in the face of everyone who enters the site and later about to give a rating because "nobody reads them"?
On this issue, you assert here that you "looked at our top 10 competitors (directories and escort listings) and only 3 used the term 'full service' as an option", without mentioning that virtually all of the others probably replaced that term with another more explicit one that still means "fucking" and with an assurance that it is included in the price already stated, which is what I mentioned in two of my posts about this previously. Why not replace FS or Full Service with one of the many other terms that means "fucking" that I am quite sure many of those competitors must be using?
And I guess it will remain unanswered what happens to that 1,000-1,500 baht cancellation fee on arrival when the guy finds out for the first time the girl does not provide FS or "fucking" (or, far more likely, does not provide it at the stated rate) and the girl has no idea why he would think she does (or for that amount) since it is clearly "not on her menu" where he booked her.
You know I have been quite positive about Smooci before. And I am not being negative about it here, only asking questions. The reason it matters to me, whether I ever used Smooci or not, and why I feel it ought to matter to anyone partaking of P4P in the area is stated in my post you just quoted. It would matter to me what one go-go bar tried to establish as a new "standard" even though I might not ever have stepped foot in that particular go-go bar. As of this moment, when a young lady considering entering the freelancer or escort scene in Bangkok goes online to see how it is done on the escort services' websites, probably being directed to Smooci, she has every reason to conclude that girls are asking and getting 3,000+ baht for 1-2 hours alone with a dude where they don't even have to fuck or provide a CIM finish to a BJ. How is that "better" and not potentially detrimental for any punter meeting girls in bars, trolling the streets for FLs or arranging hookups with girls on dating sites even if that punter has never heard of Smooci?
Is there someone at Smooci making sure that is all cleared up and well understood for every new 20 year old companion sign up that comes along? What words do they use for it so as not to create any confusion or misunderstanding?.I tend to agree here.
Ambiguity in agreements can lead to a lot of problems, and it seems a relatively easy issue to solve.
If all girls offer "full service" or whatever term you want to go by, it should be easy to add this as a general statement, in a services page: "All the girls listed on smooci offer "full service" or "sex". Unambiguous terms could be "sex", "intercourse" or whatever. There are plenty to choose from. However, a lot of sites just use "full service" including some of the escort services on your app.
If "full service" is not a default, then it becomes necessary to add it to the list of services the girls need to add explicitly. I'd expect it, and if, when a girl arrives, I am expected to negotiate it (and probably face a surcharge for it) I'd me quite put off.
If independent girls are not familiar with it, it seems that they need to be explained the term, or whatever term is most unambiguous.
You know I have been quite positive about Smooci before. And I am not being negative about it here, only asking questions. The reason it matters to me, whether I ever used Smooci or not, and why I feel it ought to matter to anyone partaking of P4P in the area is stated in my post you just quoted. It would matter to me what one go-go bar tried to establish as a new "standard" even though I might not ever have stepped foot in that particular go-go bar. As of this moment, when a young lady considering entering the freelancer or escort scene in Bangkok goes online to see how it is done on the escort services' websites, probably being directed to Smooci, she has every reason to conclude that girls are asking and getting 3,000+ baht for 1-2 hours alone with a dude where they don't even have to fuck or provide a CIM finish to a BJ. How is that "better" and not potentially detrimental for any punter meeting girls in bars, trolling the streets for FLs or arranging hookups with girls on dating sites even if that punter has never heard of Smooci?
Is there someone at Smooci making sure that is all cleared up and well understood for every new 20 year old companion sign up that comes along? What words do they use for it so as not to create any confusion or misunderstanding?
My questions might annoy you because I pursue the answers more diligently than you prefer I suppose. Maybe that comes across as "negative", but it is not meant to be. But, frankly, that is because your answers are often a bit strange. You bury and essentially hide deep into the blog on your site the very good (my assessment of them, remember?) examples for what might deserve a 5 Star Rating vs a 1 Star Rating along with the explanation that a 1 Star Rating is the worst you can give (and not "no" rating), examples that would go a long way to giving the Star Ratings a more coherent and useful meaning rather than putting them on a page and in the face of everyone who enters the site and later about to give a rating because "nobody reads them"?
On this issue, you assert here that you "looked at our top 10 competitors (directories and escort listings) and only 3 used the term 'full service' as an option", without mentioning that virtually all of the others probably replaced that term with another more explicit one that still means "fucking" and with an assurance that it is included in the price already stated, which is what I mentioned in two of my posts about this previously. Why not replace FS or Full Service with one of the many other terms that means "fucking" that I am quite sure many of those competitors must be using?
And I guess it will remain unanswered what happens to that 1,000-1,500 baht cancellation fee on arrival when the guy finds out for the first time the girl does not provide FS or "fucking" (or, far more likely, does not provide it at the stated rate) and the girl has no idea why he would think she does (or for that amount) since it is clearly "not on her menu" where he booked her.
It's very hard to take you seriously. It would be great if you actually used Smooci then we could engage better with you. Shoot us an email if you would like to give Smooci a try and we'll give you a free membership, it would be quicker than keep quoting and correcting you.
Rather than taking over the thread with your expert opinion and racking up the post count could we please save the thread for client feedback and updates? Actyually, please don't answer that, if possible..
I tend to agree here.
Ambiguity in agreements can lead to a lot of problems, and it seems a relatively easy issue to solve.
If all girls offer "full service" or whatever term you want to go by, it should be easy to add this as a general statement, in a services page: "All the girls listed on smooci offer "full service" or "sex". Unambiguous terms could be "sex", "intercourse" or whatever. There are plenty to choose from. However, a lot of sites just use "full service" including some of the escort services on your app.
If "full service" is not a default, then it becomes necessary to add it to the list of services the girls need to add explicitly. I'd expect it, and if, when a girl arrives, I am expected to negotiate it (and probably face a surcharge for it) I'd me quite put off.
If independent girls are not familiar with it, it seems that they need to be explained the term, or whatever term is most unambiguous.Of course. And thanks for your input. SmoociApp doesn't want me to reply to another one of his non-answer replies to my and your question about this and would rather tell me he keeps "correcting" me. About what? Not sure. His recent statement about me being "incorrect" was on a point I didn't even make; that Smooci had decided to drop the term "Full Service" from their list of services offered on an impulse. I never said or implied that they did. I said it appeared to be a sudden new problem (after years of many sites, massage shop menus, etc. having no known problem with the term), not that the decision was on impulse. So I won't reply to him on that issue. However, I will reply to your comment if you don't mind.
Prothall, I don't know if you are a no time, one time or frequent user of Smooci and this being your first post it is a given that you have not been posting anything about it up until now. But that is one of the most immaterial factors on this site for whether or not you have a right to make a comment or ask a question about it and maybe even many questions about it. The reason being SmoociApp has an ongoing thread devoted to his business on this site and therefore benefits greatly from the constant exposure. As an expat living in Bangkok, I probably get asked by newcomers and visitors I meet 3-4 times a month about "escorts" (along with go-go bars, BJ Bars, dating sites, massage shops, whatever) and do I recommend any. I have always only mentioned one name, "Smooci". I tell them to check out Smooci's website, usually bring it up on my phone right then and there to show it to them and have never made a negative comment about them. I can also assure you that not one of those guys asking me about it knew or had heard of Smooci until I told them about it. I see that as my part of the deal here in having a Smooci Thread and his being available to answer what I consider rather ordinary, reasonable and nonthreatening questions about it. And due to the constant exposure to the name on this site.
I am sure I am not the only one here who does this. And I would imagine most of the guys who lurk on this message board are happy to have the name "Smooci" on their lips the moment anyone in Bangkok brings up the topic of escorts, same as I do. We are an unofficial team of field sales reps for the business. And that is even though very few of us likely have ever actually posted a personal experience with Smooci here or ever will. And why not? It's good for this site, good for Smooci, no reason to think it won't be good for someone looking to book an escort in Bangkok.
Can I assume you have done the same? Can I also assume your only real interest in understanding the why of something rather odd like what is being done in this case is to make it even easier for you to promote Smooci as the go-to escort booking site for anyone into such a thing and asking you about it, which I had always assumed is what Smooci would want, what ISG would want and why this thread exists in the first place? Just asking.
Franciscass
08-17-18, 05:34
Seems Smooci while not explaining why, are saying including FS is problematic for escorts. I can only imagine it's because a customer wrongly assumes it's more than straightforward covered vaginal sex. On the other hand some members are confused when it is not listed. I suggest the answer lies in a much more complete and detailed listing of "services offered" and while you're at it Smooci please a little more detail on the physical attributes of the escort. I have been a customer twice, I sent one back kept the second but both were well off the mark re age.
Why can't active / semi-active user receive free membership?
My previous negative comments about Smooci are due to "upgraded" features that doesn't make user experiences any better. Time could have been better spent on other improvements. I get it, each person has their own thought about what is better. The twitter and distance features aren't important to me, but could be for someone else.
I do have a question about your escort enrollment process. When a WG enrolls in the Smooci, what do they see for the Services options? Are these options just the acronym or is there a description of the acronym? One of the WG stated she didn't know what some of the options are, DFK for example, and picked some options. Does the WG signup process state she must provide full service / vaginal intercourse if asked?
In previous version, I notice two WG that did not select FS and I never chose them. The 'FS' symbol attached (or was it 'Full Service', used so many times and I can't even remember) to the Services section is an indicator that the WG provides boom boom, basically a quick validation for a user. Not everyone would assume the missing 'FS' is implied. Bangkok is the land of smile that offer a lot of thing and also omit vaginal intercourse from the menu, been to a BJ or HJ only bar / massage shop? To a newbie, WG having BBBJ, DFK, Massage only service options listed could mean she doesn't get selected.
I hate some of the features, but will continue to use it.
The issue was that around a third of independent companions didn't understand or didn't select full service. As a result we were getting a lot of clients contacting us about it, some not sure what full service meant and some asking why some girls didn't offer it, so we needed to do something. The options were to either set it as standard and get the girls to accept this term as part of the sign up, OR remove it all together. For now we took the second option and will reveiw it again in a few weeks once we are on top of current developments.
Companions do see a longer explanation of the services terms, not just the abbrevation, so when they select their services they would see DFK: Deep French Kissing (for example).
Regarding the twitter feed, this wasn't a tech upgrade in the sense that our tech team had to spend time on it, it's simply an add on / plug in services we used. Those who find it useful can use it and those who don't can ignore it and shouldn't be affected in any way; we haven't lost any development time working on it.
The distance feattures are more necessary for incall service and expansions to other larger cities (especially Manila where some girls have been 2+ hours travel distance from a client). However, this should start to improve the experience for Bangkok too. The escort's app doesn't let girls go online when they are outside of the target GPS areas in centrla Bangkok, but with the upgraded GPS and distance searches it will allow girls on the ourskirts of the city to work on Smooci, and clients will receievs result of girls withintheir radius (based on the time of the booking and the distance of companions).
Frankly, my only real reason to comment was from an effort to clarify how I see it being problematic from a customer viewpoint.
As I have no direct experience with Smooci yet, I cannot comment on the app itself, although I have bought a premium membership and intend to use it later in the year.
From an app perspective, it looks like a very good service, which is also borne out in the fact that many agencies use it, too. So it must have a benefit to them, the girls and the customers. You don't stay in business otherwise.
Same goes for the Smooci team: these kinds of decisions are probably not easy (I am not in your chair). My issue is purely from a customer perspective, as explained in my post: I'd rather not get into a discussion about services when I have the girl at my door. That would just be aggravating. It's probably just an edge case, but still an irritating possibility.
So yes, in a sense I am mainly commenting as someone who thinks the service brings something good, and I would like it to be as good as it can be. As a customer, that's also to my benefit. From an entrepeneur's standpoint, I was actually a bit surprised this kind of app hasn't been adopted much more widely. As to that: here's hoping!
Of course. And thanks for your input. SmoociApp doesn't want me to reply to another one of his non-answer replies to my and your question about this and would rather tell me he keeps "correcting" me. About what? Not sure. His recent statement about me being "incorrect" was on a point I didn't even make; that Smooci had decided to drop the term "Full Service" from their list of services offered on an impulse. I never said or implied that they did. I said it appeared to be a sudden new problem (after years of many sites, massage shop menus, etc. having no known problem with the term), not that the decision was on impulse. So I won't reply to him on that issue. However, I will reply to your comment if you don't mind..
Some agency websites spell out the rate for anal and lesbian action as a specific cost, others do not. And Independence don't have websites or a means to tell you what they might charge for extras. If the extra price isn't listed under the girls profile then there shouldn't be any extra fees Beyond the original price.
So the question is if I was the book a girl who is stated as a lesbian as an independent for me and my girl and she quoted me an extra fee for her service do I still have to pay a cancellation fee if it is too high?
Some agency websites spell out the rate for anal and lesbian action as a specific cost, others do not. And Independence don't have websites or a means to tell you what they might charge for extras. If the extra price isn't listed under the girls profile then there shouldn't be any extra fees Beyond the original price.
So the question is if I was the book a girl who is stated as a lesbian as an independent for me and my girl and she quoted me an extra fee for her service do I still have to pay a cancellation fee if it is too high?I'm not sure I understood. But at the moment we only allow companions to charge extra for a-level and couples servcies, so any other service they offer should be factored in at the price they offer, there shouldn't be any hidden extras or additional cost other than those noted.
If you are a couple most companions will charge extra but this will be shown before you confirm the booking.
I'm not sure I understood. But at the moment we only allow companions to charge extra for a-level and couples servcies, so any other service they offer should be factored in at the price they offer, there shouldn't be any hidden extras or additional cost other than those noted.
If you are a couple most companions will charge extra but this will be shown before you confirm the booking.What I'm trying to say is you priced yourself out of the market for couples. A girl cheating 5000 Baht wants another 5000 Baht for a couple. It's always exactly double which makes me wonder if they even have a choice in the pricing, of they even get the chance to decide on the extra fee. My girl and I can walk to any gogo and make negotiations with any girl for a fraction of your fee. So the question is are you setting the prices for the extras or are you letting the girls name their own rates? And to add to this discussion I bring up an offer function for those who want to add extra service but don't want to necessarily pay an arm and a leg for said services. A girl might accept 1000 for anal instead of the usual markup of 2000. Your in it to make your fee, the girl is in it to make their fee and we the customers are used to trying to get it for less.
All you have to do is add one button. By clicking the book button your given the option for a special request. Let us use that box to negotiate.
Quick question after I fill out the booking form with my email and my name on my hotel and I feel on the special request box on its end does the girl or the agency receive that information? The other question is what is your cancellation policy if I push that button and a minute later can I cancel her?
My idea is fill out the request form for a lower price and then I can cancel her and she can email me back if she accepts it or not.
Genuine bookings come direct to the app, with detailed information helping them to instantly accept or reject a booking.Your rules state that the girl can accept or reject a booking but under the client's 'terms of service' it seems that once you hit that final book button there's no canceling the booking. If the girl takes 4 hours to show up and your ready to hit the hay then I guess your forced to pay the cancellation fee? I guess if its an agency girl you can contact the agency and cancel the booking via email or phone call but if its an Independent then your forced to wait around a hotel room.
What I'm trying to say is you priced yourself out of the market for couples. A girl cheating 5000 Baht wants another 5000 Baht for a couple. It's always exactly double which makes me wonder if they even have a choice in the pricing, of they even get the chance to decide on the extra fee. My girl and I can walk to any gogo and make negotiations with any girl for a fraction of your fee. So the question is are you setting the prices for the extras or are you letting the girls name their own rates? And to add to this discussion I bring up an offer function for those who want to add extra service but don't want to necessarily pay an arm and a leg for said services. A girl might accept 1000 for anal instead of the usual markup of 2000. Your in it to make your fee, the girl is in it to make their fee and we the customers are used to trying to get it for less.
All you have to do is add one button. By clicking the book button your given the option for a special request. Let us use that box to negotiate.At the moment the companions have a few options for the extra services (a-level and couples), these include some price options (+1,000, +2,000) , doubling the price, and no extra charge. For couples most companions seem to go for double, and for anal it seems mixed. We also leave a note allowing companions to contact us for custom pricing.
We don't push or suggest any kind of pricing, but for Bangkok we launched with 3 groups of agencies which used similar pricing, 12 months later when we introduced independents I'm sure the exisiting agency pricing influenced the market and a lot of the freelancers adapted the same / similar rates and extra charging. We hope to create more smart pricing in the future, letting companions know the average rates, suggesting more competitive rates, and giving the option to set smart rates which change based on the time, competition, and demand.
We are aware that we have a lot of clients who would like to be able to make lower offers / bids. We are looking into a few ideas which will allow clients to put in offers / bids and add more of an element bartering, but without losing the effieicency and low rate of fake bookings which attracts the companioins.
Your rules state that the girl can accept or reject a booking but under the client's 'terms of service' it seems that once you hit that final book button there's no canceling the booking. If the girl takes 4 hours to show up and your ready to hit the hay then I guess your forced to pay the cancellation fee? I guess if its an agency girl you can contact the agency and cancel the booking via email or phone call but if its an Independent then your forced to wait around a hotel room.The client and the companion can both cancel at any time; the companion has a cancel button in her app (when she preses it she also has to select a reason), and the client has a cancel button in the booking confirmation screen (this is sent to the client when the booking is accepted). However, the cancel button for the client is disabled once the companion starts her journey to meet the client. The client must then use the direct contact link to call and let the companion agency know that they want to cancel the booking.
We don't enforce any cancellations, the cancellation policies are set by the companions / agencies (although we do give default text, we let the companion know that they acan edit or remove this). The companions / agencies are responsible for enforcing any cancellation policy and we expect them to be reasonable and responsible. If we get a complaint that an agency or companion were being unreasonable about cancellations we would contact them and potentially restrict or supsend them. Which we have done before.
Quick question after I fill out the booking form with my email and my name on my hotel and I feel on the special request box on its end does the girl or the agency receive that information? The other question is what is your cancellation policy if I push that button and a minute later can I cancel her?
My idea is fill out the request form for a lower price and then I can cancel her and she can email me back if she accepts it or not.The girl will get the special request, I don't know about the agency. When agency calls to confirm, they never mentioned what I added in the request box. Once the girl arrives, they will confirm what I had added in the request field. I only done it twice though.
WarmStone25
08-22-18, 13:17
Is the SmoociApp in English only or is there a Thai version for the escorts? I think this app would do well in Berlin.
The girl will get the special request, I don't know about the agency. When agency calls to confirm, they never mentioned what I added in the request box. Once the girl arrives, they will confirm what I had added in the request field. I only done it twice though.When you send a special request to an agency companion the agency and the companion both see the special request on the booking sheet.
Is the SmoociApp in English only or is there a Thai version for the escorts? I think this app would do well in Berlin.The app and site are currently only in English.
We are looking at launching in Berlin (plus Amsterdam and London) around October / November.
The app and site are currently only in English.
We are looking at launching in Berlin (plus Amsterdam and London) around October / November.That is great news.
Was already wondering why such a service hadn't gotten off the ground in other places earlier.
The app and site are currently only in English.
We are looking at launching in Berlin (plus Amsterdam and London) around October / November.When will Pattaya be included? It seems it is long overdue.
Are you monitoring the Smooci ManilaThread?
What is your Model vs Agency Ratings. What's the difference?
Without getting into the debates here, I am now on the ground in Bangkok, and have had two outstanding sessions with Smooci booked escorts. True, as with all escorts, add 5 years and 5 kilos. Still both have been totally GFE / provided all services listed, and worked their assess off (mouths, actually) to please me. Smooci has been very easy to deal with and totally responsive. I was VERY skeptical, but they do a very good job.
Cheers.
Without getting into the debates here, I am now on the ground in Bangkok, and have had two outstanding sessions with Smooci booked escorts. True, as with all escorts, add 5 years and 5 kilos. Still both have been totally GFE / provided all services listed, and worked their assess off (mouths, actually) to please me. Smooci has been very easy to deal with and totally responsive. I was VERY skeptical, but they do a very good job.
Cheers.Good to hear. Does that mean you will or already have submitted a comment on each of those girls in the Smooci website detailing exactly how they treated and finished you up with their "mouths, actually"? If so, those might be the first such comments ever posted for any girls booked through Smooci. Let us know.
Without getting into the debates here, I am now on the ground in Bangkok, and have had two outstanding sessions with Smooci booked escorts. True, as with all escorts, add 5 years and 5 kilos. Still both have been totally GFE / provided all services listed, and worked their assess off (mouths, actually) to please me. Smooci has been very easy to deal with and totally responsive. I was VERY skeptical, but they do a very good job.
Cheers.And the ID's of these great girls?
Good to hear. Does that mean you will or already have submitted a comment on each of those girls in the Smooci website detailing exactly how they treated and finished you up with their "mouths, actually"? If so, those might be the first such comments ever posted for any girls booked through Smooci. Let us know.I submitted my reviews, but sorry that I did not use that exact phraseology. BTW, I have been a poster on this board for over a decade- I have no dog in this race, so drop the attitude with me.
And the ID's of these great girls?Colina and Zaza.
I submitted my reviews, but sorry that I did not use that exact phraseology. BTW, I have been a poster on this board for over a decade- I have no dog in this race, so drop the attitude with me.Sorry, but with that somewhat strange reply, it sounds very much like you have a dog in this race. Why the out-of-left-field dig? What were you so offended by?
The phraseology you used here certainly peaked some interest in others booking them. Why would you not use the same phraseology on your Smooci website review where it would do even more good for them and their prospective customers? Just wondering.
Sorry, but with that somewhat strange reply, it sounds very much like you have a dog in this race. Why the out-of-left-field dig? What were you so offended by?
The phraseology you used here certainly peaked some interest in others booking them. Why would you not use the same phraseology on your Smooci website review where it would do even more good for them and their prospective customers? Just wondering.Hey dude, your posts are getting quite tedious -- give it a rest! It basically comes down to this: if you enjoy the company of escorts, Smooci is a good platform. I have used this service in Bangkok as well as in Manila, and have been quite satisfied. I'm not a big fan of writing reviews, so I usually don't. It's not mandatory you know. Besides, chemistry trumps reviews, and that's why YMMV exists in the monger lexicon. If you pay for premium, you get the benefits of checking out reviews (up to you whether you want to believe them or not), advance booking and tracking of escort movements. Also, at least in Bangkok, there is often a significant discount in escort prices on Smooci. I personally like entertaining hot escorts in my hotel or condo for a few hours, with a few glasses of wine and whatnot. If you don't like escorts, fine: there are other P4 P options to pursue in BKK and MNL. Different strokes for different folks right? Like is short guys, let's monger more and whinge less!
Hey dude, your posts are getting quite tedious -- give it a rest! It basically comes down to this: if you enjoy the company of escorts, Smooci is a good platform. I have used this service in Bangkok as well as in Manila, and have been quite satisfied. I'm not a big fan of writing reviews, so I usually don't. It's not mandatory you know. Besides, chemistry trumps reviews, and that's why YMMV exists in the monger lexicon. If you pay for premium, you get the benefits of checking out reviews (up to you whether you want to believe them or not), advance booking and tracking of escort movements. Also, at least in Bangkok, there is often a significant discount in escort prices on Smooci. I personally like entertaining hot escorts in my hotel or condo for a few hours, with a few glasses of wine and whatnot. If you don't like escorts, fine: there are other P4 P options to pursue in BKK and MNL. Different strokes for different folks right? Like is short guys, let's monger more and whinge less!Are you familiar with the Ignore feature on this site? Feel free to use it anytime.
Gladiator69
08-25-18, 02:02
Colina and Zaza.Zaza was one of my favorite ladies in my trip back in May. Although a little older than her profile pic but she was funny, great attitude and no problem with some long, hard pounding. Would book her for another all-nighter in my next trip!
I have a question if I book an escort and I click on the booking button and it hasn't been accepted yet on the other end can I cancel the booking? Say 10 minutes ago by and there's no response, can the booking be canceled on my end without having to call or chat with anyone? If it was an independent tgen there is no phone number listed which would let me cancel the booking.
Another question is do these girls really know what the service acronyms stand for? I see one girl selects deep throat and rimming but doesn't select BBBJ. Just seems odd if she would be able to stick her tongue up your ass but not suck your dick without a condom. These are Independent escorts which doesn't give me the opportunity to ask questions. Can questions be asked of the independent escorts somehow about services?
I have a question if I book an escort and I click on the booking button and it hasn't been accepted yet on the other end can I cancel the booking? Say 10 minutes ago by and there's no response, can the booking be canceled on my end without having to call or chat with anyone? If it was an independent tgen there is no phone number listed which would let me cancel the booking.
Another question is do these girls really know what the service acronyms stand for? I see one girl selects deep throat and rimming but doesn't select BBBJ. Just seems odd if she would be able to stick her tongue up your ass but not suck your dick without a condom. These are Independent escorts which doesn't give me the opportunity to ask questions. Can questions be asked of the independent escorts somehow about services?When you send a booking request you aren't able to update or change that request until it is accepted or declined. The companions have a 10 minute countdown to accept or decline the request or it is timed out and auto declined. If you changed your mind immediately after sending a booking request, if it is accepted you can cancel it as soon as you receive the confirmation.
The companion do get an additional explanation of what each service abbreviation means when selecting their services.
We don't yet have a feature to send questions to companions prior to bookings. The only current way is to use the special requests box to add questions and once a booking is accepted you have direct contact with the companion to chat.
When you send a booking request you aren't able to update or change that request until it is accepted or declined. The companions have a 10 minute countdown to accept or decline the request or it is timed out and auto declined. If you changed your mind immediately after sending a booking request, if it is accepted you can cancel it as soon as you receive the confirmation.
The companion do get an additional explanation of what each service abbreviation means when selecting their services.
We don't yet have a feature to send questions to companions prior to bookings. The only current way is to use the special requests box to add questions and once a booking is accepted you have direct contact with the companion to chat.Thanks for the reply, my concern was that exactly. Sending a request and not getting a reply. Time is money and booking a girl 4 hours ahead of time and not receiving confirmation 3 hours later wouldn't be the greatest way to do business.
I've done smooci a total of 5 times. Only 2 turned out to be similar to the photos. Look at this profile. The tattoos and tits are not even in existence. How and why does smooci allow this to happen all the time? Guys should start their own Thread on ISG to review smooci girls. Saves people a lot of headaches and money.
Thanks for the reply, my concern was that exactly. Sending a request and not getting a reply. Time is money and booking a girl 4 hours ahead of time and not receiving confirmation 3 hours later wouldn't be the greatest way to do business.We are trying to run Smooci as a live booking platform, so you should usually receive a response to booking requests within 1-3 minutes. We use the 10 minute time out rule so that if a companion isn't paying attention to her phone and doesn't respond within 10 minutes (we send out a reminder notification and SMS at 5 minutes) then the booking is auto declined and the client is informed. When a booking times out we also set the companion offline, so she has to physically go into the app and click to go online again in order to be shown online.
We still get a lot of new escort who take time to get use to the importance of responding fast and only being online when available, so we have introduced short suspensions for when companions time out on too many bookings, or time out on 3 in a row. Hopefully the response rates will continue to improve and we may be able to up the time out to 5 minutes.
I've done smooci a total of 5 times. Only 2 turned out to be similar to the photos. Look at this profile. The tattoos and tits are not even in existence. How and why does smooci allow this to happen all the time? Guys should start their own Thread on ISG to review smooci girls. Saves people a lot of headaches and money.We haven't received any complaints or emails about this companion so we are unaware of it. We respond and act on all direct feedback but if you choose to post something on a forum before contacting us directly you can't expect us to have acted before hand.
The comment system posts everything on the profiles of the companions unedited, and when a companions gets a series of low ratings or a low overall rating we look into why and react. If you have a particulalry bad experience you want to let us know about or you spot something that you want to make us aware of then please contact us directly and we will take the time to look into it and try to solve the issue.
AstoraDick
08-28-18, 09:23
Hi,
So I had this issue several times where my booking is confirmed 4-5 hours ahead but only to be postponed by the agency just an hour before the actual booking time. This kind of changes is very disruptive especially if I'm attending other matters and rushing to get at the hotel just in time.
In a situation like this, I'd really appreciate a 5-10% complimentary discount for the disruption.
If it's possible, could you put this up for discussion and consideration?
One way to encourage the agency to stay firm on time once confirmed.
Hi,
So I had this issue several times where my booking is confirmed 4-5 hours ahead but only to be postponed by the agency just an hour before the actual booking time. This kind of changes is very disruptive especially if I'm attending other matters and rushing to get at the hotel just in time.
In a situation like this, I'd really appreciate a 5-10% complimentary discount for the disruption.
If it's possible, could you put this up for discussion and consideration?
One way to encourage the agency to stay firm on time once confirmed.Sorry to hear about this problem. We encourage the agencies to resolve issues with the clients fairly and giving a discount is something we are happy to suggest to them, 5-10% seems very fair in cases where delays happen on a booking which is booked more than 4 hours in advance.
The agencies are aware of the improtance of good ratings and feedback, so they should feel under pressure to resolve these issues, especially when the client is not at fault.
We can also offer you a free or extended premium membership, please email us directly and we will arrange this for you.
LadyMontbarron
08-30-18, 01:32
I tried booking with Smooci last time but got canceled within 15 - 20 minutes without stating any reason. Was it because I didn't purchase premium client membership?
I'm coming back to Bangkok next week and plan to join premium membership before arriving in Thailand so should I list the phone number in my country or the one in Thailand in order to use other features and book companions?
Also I want to ask if the companions do actually provide services they list on their profiles: COF, DFK?
I tried booking with Smooci last time but got canceled within 15 - 20 minutes without stating any reason. Was it because I didn't purchase premium client membership?
I'm coming back to Bangkok next week and plan to join premium membership before arriving in Thailand so should I list the phone number in my country or the one in Thailand in order to use other features and book companions?
Also I want to ask if the companions do actually provide services they list on their profiles: COF, DFK?All bookings should be received and treated in the same way. In cases where a companion is supicious that a client may be a timewaster or not genuine being a premium member should encourage them to treat the booking as genuine, but if there is no reason to have suspicion or no warnings then not being a premium member shouldn't hamper a booking.
Bookings are sent direct to the companions and if a companion declines the booking they have to select a reason why. If they haven't responded within 10 minutes the booking is auto declined and the client is also informed the reason.
Send us an email and we can look into it and check the reason why your booking was declined or cancelled contact@smooci.com.
I submitted my reviews, but sorry that I did not use that exact phraseology. BTW, I have been a poster on this board for over a decade- I have no dog in this race, so drop the attitude with me.ET asks some rather tedious and exaggerated questions. Don't worry. We don't all agree with his strange conclusions.
You are right to ignore his somewhat seemingly sarcastic probing questions. The forum is for answering only the questions that interest you.
WarmStone25
09-01-18, 15:17
I have just looked at an other Escort site in Bangkok. It says about the photos that " this site pulls information from the image data". This is because each photo on the site has a date printed on it to show when it was taken. Is this something that could be used by Smooci to ensure that the photos are not to old?
I have just looked at an other Escort site in Bangkok. It says about the photos that " this site pulls information from the image data". This is because each photo on the site has a date printed on it to show when it was taken. Is this something that could be used by Smooci to ensure that the photos are not to old?I'll pass this message on to our tech team and see what they say. We are looking for more and better ways to try give better photo accuracy, it's a challenege but we will keep working on it.
We have now launched age vwerification, which allow companions to verify their age buy allowing us to lock their age to their date of birth, afterwhich it will show 'verified' by their age. We launched this feature yesterday and over the coming weeks you should start to see companions with their age verified.
ET asks some rather tedious and exaggerated questions. Don't worry. We don't all agree with his strange conclusions.
You are right to ignore his somewhat seemingly sarcastic probing questions. The forum is for answering only the questions that interest you.As is often the case, you did not think through why I would ask the question I asked and possibly are not aware of what else was going on with regard to that very subject at the time. Posters on the Bangkok Escort Thread had been discussing the usefulness or not of the Smooci Star Rating system and the comments for the girls submitted by Smooci customers. Smooci users on that thread, not me, had been disparaging the comments on Smooci's site as essentially useless. My only observation on that thread after having read many of them was how generally non-specific they were about whether or not the girls actually delivered services listed on their profiles vs "a nice experience", "a lovely girl" and things like that, that one could easily take the glowing, positive comments along with a 5.0 Star Rating and still have no idea if those girls ever actually properly finished a, say, BBBJ+CIM.
So during that same time period a poster here used the term "mouth" in relation to how well a couple of Smooci girls pleased him, being seemingly very happy to share that highly useful detail with us here on this website. My question was if he had made a comment about them on the Smooci website and put it that way in the comments and, if so, that might be the first such specific and useful comment ever submitted about a Smooci girl from what I have read of those comments and what the other posters on the Bangkok Escort Thread suggested as well. I wasn't being sarcastic. I was actually trying to praise him for being blissfully and mercifully specific about a certain kind of service he got from those girls, something somewhat rare in the usual Smooci review comments. But apparently he had not. His choice. Fine. But which then prompted my question, why not? I believe that is a logical and very good question with a positive purpose and a point that even SmoociApp might want to address, assuming he has probably never read nor will he be likely to reply to posters discussing his service and those comments on another thread.
IMO, if there is some reason Smooci users are not comfortable about being as usefully specific about these things on the Smooci website as they are here, then that is something not only good for Smooci to know about and address for the sake of their customers and potential customers but also good for the Thai P4P scene in general which ultimately effects all of us since I do believe there is a ripple effect out from what girls (hundreds of them by now in Bangkok alone, including freelancers) in any aspect of the scene are praised and rewarded for even if one does not regularly partake of a particular bar, a particular shop, a particular online service and so on.
Otherwise, you are right and I totally agree with you, Syzy; anyone and everyone here should only answer the questions that interest them. No need to answer for any other reason, such as to unnecessarily critique the writing style or perceived motives of other posters. Neither you nor anyone else will be missed if you simply Ignore the ones that do not interest you. Honestly.
As is often the case, you did not think through why I would ask the question I asked and possibly are not aware of what else was going on with regard to that very subject at the time. Posters on the Bangkok Escort Thread had been discussing the usefulness or not of the Smooci Star Rating system and the comments for the girls submitted by Smooci customers. Smooci users on that thread, not me, had been disparaging the comments on Smooci's site as essentially useless. My only observation on that thread after having read many of them was how generally non-specific they were about whether or not the girls actually delivered services listed on their profiles vs "a nice experience", "a lovely girl" and things like that, that one could easily take the glowing, positive comments along with a 5.0 Star Rating and still have no idea if those girls ever actually properly finished a, say, BBBJ+CIM.
.Since it seems smooci is paid by membership, not by bookings what's to stop an agency or even the girl herself from 'booking on' and making up false 5 star reviews under various fake emails and names at hotels to give herself a 5 star rating? I've only used outcall escorts in Canada and on occasion the service just sucked or the girl would try to skip out early. You could then call the agency and ask for a solution, in many cases they knew you were a member of the local review board and they would work to fix the issue. You could hand over the money knowing that something could be done. What do you do if things don't go as planned when you book thru smooci? What can they do anyway seeing that they aren't involved directly with the girl. Call the agency if its an agency girl? All comes down to handing over the money beforehand that bothers me.
All comes down to handing over the money beforehand that bothers me.I've used them 5 times and never gave the money beforehand. Always paid in the end of session and never had any issue with the girls, but I was going with the flow and was not pushy about the service.
Since it seems smooci is paid by membership, not by bookings what's to stop an agency or even the girl herself from 'booking on' and making up false 5 star reviews under various fake emails and names at hotels to give herself a 5 star rating? I've only used outcall escorts in Canada and on occasion the service just sucked or the girl would try to skip out early. You could then call the agency and ask for a solution, in many cases they knew you were a member of the local review board and they would work to fix the issue. You could hand over the money knowing that something could be done. What do you do if things don't go as planned when you book thru smooci? What can they do anyway seeing that they aren't involved directly with the girl. Call the agency if its an agency girl? All comes down to handing over the money beforehand that bothers me.We like to think we are cacthing any fake reviews but we continue to look into bookings which are supsicious or which are brought to our attention and will remove anything we are not sure about. Since the beginning we caught on to some of the tricks, and we use booking patterns, IP addresses, and the GPS movement (distance travelled, time at location, similar movements) to flag up suspicious activity.
We are trying to build a system where reviews and ratings are known to be trustworth and inturn have the escorts and agencies understand the importantce of having a good rating and positive comments. The system is by no means perfect but we are continuing to improve and working on new ideas and features, and we are very grateful for any feedback and ideas from users.
Franciscass
09-02-18, 08:52
Kudos to Smooci on introducing age verification when possible. Pic verification is tricky. Even if the age of the pic can be established it doesn't mean a lot. There are so many free photo enhancement apps nowadays that can make you look years younger and a lot prettier.
I have no doubt that these guys are intent on making their app the most successful escort booking site on the net and are doing everything to enhance the experience for both customers and escorts so like some others I am confused as to why some would want to continuously find fault.
Yes the ignore button is there but why keep whining. To suggest reviews should be written in a particular format to suit somebody else by giving detailed information on exactly how a particular service was provided is utterly ridiculous. Customers are free to write reviews as they see fit and if anybody is not happy with that they should follow their own advice and simply ignore them.
I rarely use escorts but when I see an aged verified 23 year on Smooci that I like I'm in for 2 hours. Who knows I may even sign up for membership.
We like to think we are cacthing any fake reviews but we continue to look into bookings which are supsicious or which are brought to our attention and will remove anything we are not sure about. Since the beginning we caught on to some of the tricks, and we use booking patterns, IP addresses, and the GPS movement (distance travelled, time at location, similar movements) to flag up suspicious activity.
We are trying to build a system where reviews and ratings are known to be trustworth and inturn have the escorts and agencies understand the importantce of having a good rating and positive comments. The system is by no means perfect but we are continuing to improve and working on new ideas and features, and we are very grateful for any feedback and ideas from users.There is no real way to protect against this.
Reputation systems are by default broken. Sybil attacks are rather easy to employ, especially when there is money at stake.
Personally, I do not find that a huge problem: caveat emptor always applies.
Too glowing reviews or completely bad ones can mostly be ignored, in my experience.
Good to know you are on it, though, as some checking is better than none.
As long as people realise "trustworthy" in online reputation systems means "also keep a hold of common sense", it's fine with me. I take them as a rough guideline.
To suggest reviews should be written in a particular format to suit somebody else by giving detailed information on exactly how a particular service was provided is utterly ridiculous. I agree. Yet that was the pitch for the kind of thing we would read in the essay type comments once it became obvious that a Star Rating system with no obvious reference to what was being rated other than "overall experience" (read: virtually nothing to do with whether or not the girl actually fully provided the requested services as described on her profile) would not actually rate those things. Users should not be expected to choose the words that would verify that the girl actually finished a service the way it was stated in her profile and compose sentences to convey it accordingly. That would be Smooci's job to compose within a set of examples the potential customer would be made unavoidably aware of before choosing a girl and reminded of again before giving her a Star Rating, no? Users don't have to rhapsodize and compose words to verify photo accuracy, right? Isn't it simply a matter of the user giving the photos an accuracy rating? The more effective way to accomplish this is with a Star Rating system, no words required by the person submitting the rating. But only if the users at least start out on the same page for what they are rating.
In fact, Smooci did initially provide a fairly good basic set of guidelines from which users could base their ratings rather specifically on "delivery of service" while leaving the essay portion to the things that, sure enough, wound up being about the extent of what users now write; "a nice experience", "a lovely girl", "maybe she was tired after a busy day" and so on. But then they disavowed those guidelines being used for that purpose and pretty much buried them deep into their website in a blog or whatever. That's when they and others suggested, oh, don't worry, those kinds of details will be found in the essay write-ups, no need for the Star Ratings to be so much about that. Remember? Well, most of the time now there is no reason to expect either the Star Ratings or the comments have much if anything to do with whether or not a girl fully delivered services as advertised and apparently a lot to do with whether or not she came across visually as expected and maintained a pleasant demeanor.
Since it seems smooci is paid by membership, not by bookings what's to stop an agency or even the girl herself from 'booking on' and making up false 5 star reviews under various fake emails and names at hotels to give herself a 5 star rating? I've only used outcall escorts in Canada and on occasion the service just sucked or the girl would try to skip out early. You could then call the agency and ask for a solution, in many cases they knew you were a member of the local review board and they would work to fix the issue. You could hand over the money knowing that something could be done. What do you do if things don't go as planned when you book thru smooci? What can they do anyway seeing that they aren't involved directly with the girl. Call the agency if its an agency girl? All comes down to handing over the money beforehand that bothers me.In this era.
Want good service, we be a good customer too. This is something I always believe.
If paying before hands bother you, I think you never ever buy things from online and by from any fasts food restaurants.
Anyway from your doubts above on "What do you do if things don't go as planned when you book thru smooci?" I always booked agency's girls from smooci and not the independent.
I can call the agency if there is any issues but for independent, they can just off the phone and disappear.
So I guess your main concern for paying before hand will apply to the independents rather to the agency's girls.
For agency's girls, there is always something to fall back on.
Russian Indy advertising on smooci. But it's she really Russian or just an Asian with blonde hair? Looks like blatent false advertising somewhere in the line, saying she's from the Russian federation gives the impression of a Caucasian girl.
Russian Indy advertising on smooci. But it's she really Russian or just an Asian with blonde hair? Looks like blatent false advertising somewhere in the line, saying she's from the Russian federation gives the impression of a Caucasian girl.We don't like to comment on individual companions, but this companion has had several bookings on Smooci, she gets very positive ratings and comments and no complaints, and her ID (nationality) seems correct.
We have quite a few non-Thai companions on Smooci in Bangkok (Russian, Eastern Europe, African, South American). If you are unsure if a companions natioanlity is correct please email us. If we receive any complaints that a nationality is incorrect we'd try to check it and verify it, or ask the companion to correct it.
Member #4591
09-11-18, 15:01
I have used Smooci from the beginning and I my findings are as follows:
Good points: The customer service from Smooci has been outstanding. I've always received a call if the lady was running late and assistance with inaccurate GPS addresses and seemless verification of my credentials were always handled with the utmost privacy when confirming my bookings with my hotel or condo switch board. I always received good service from the ladies other than most being very condom conscious. I have never seen a lady who looked nothing like her photos and most times I was not forced to pay upfront. I firmly believe the lady makes a judgment call as soon as she walks in the door. On the other hand, the money has always been set out in plain site and it was never touched until the session was over. It was never even discussed. There is a location option for free where all members, including non- premium members can see how far the ladies are away from you before you book. This helps gage how long she will be before she arrives. Also free members can see the last few reviews of the ladies if you click the share profile button. This brings her profile link up and if you copy and paste that link into your browser, you will see the latest reviews before you book the lady.
Bad points: I don't care what anyone says but Smooci does absolutely no age verification. I have it first hand knowledge that most of the ladies deduct 5-8 years off their age on their profile. Secondly, the website states the ladies don't pay any commission but they pay 450 Baht to Smooci and or their home agency. Finally, some bookings add a taxi fare depending on where the lady is located but it does not mention that in the rate quoted in the profiles.
Additional: I was able to take a look at the android Smooci app the ladies use. I got a look at the bookings screen and it shows the customer booking history, the commission the ladies must pay, and the reviews of the customer. These reviews for free members will show your name, email address and phone number. The girls can see all this.
Bad points: I don't care what anyone says but Smooci does absolutely no age verification. I have it first hand knowledge that most of the ladies deduct 5-8 years off their age on their profile. Secondly, the website states the ladies don't pay any commission but they pay 450 Baht to Smooci and or their home agency. Finally, some bookings add a taxi fare depending on where the lady is located but it does not mention that in the rate quoted in the profiles.
Additional: I was able to take a look at the android Smooci app the ladies use. I got a look at the bookings screen and it shows the customer booking history, the commission the ladies must pay, and the reviews of the customer. These reviews for free members will show your name, email address and phone number. The girls can see all this.I always assumed the rate includes everything, so the taxi fare isn't too big of a deal nor does commission the WG pays to their agency / others. I was told, by WG, that agency would received X amount from the booking rates. For instance, the rate is 3750, the WG will keep 3000 and 750 goes to the agency. 4000, WG keeps 3000, agency gets 1000.
WG able to see John's real name is F'and BS, if true. IDK, I don't read the service agreement, but if it states in their agreement, that's on me for not reading. If not.
I have used Smooci from the beginning and I my findings are as follows:
Good points: The customer service from Smooci has been outstanding. I've always received a call if the lady was running late and assistance with inaccurate GPS addresses and seemless verification of my credentials were always handled with the utmost privacy when confirming my bookings with my hotel or condo switch board. I always received good service from the ladies other than most being very condom conscious. I have never seen a lady who looked nothing like her photos and most times I was not forced to pay upfront. I firmly believe the lady makes a judgment call as soon as she walks in the door. On the other hand, the money has always been set out in plain site and it was never touched until the session was over. It was never even discussed. There is a location option for free where all members, including non- premium members can see how far the ladies are away from you before you book. This helps gage how long she will be before she arrives. Also free members can see the last few reviews of the ladies if you click the share profile button. This brings her profile link up and if you copy and paste that link into your browser, you will see the latest reviews before you book the lady.
Bad points: I don't care what anyone says but Smooci does absolutely no age verification. I have it first hand knowledge that most of the ladies deduct 5-8 years off their age on their profile. Secondly, the website states the ladies don't pay any commission but they pay 450 Baht to Smooci and or their home agency. Finally, some bookings add a taxi fare depending on where the lady is located but it does not mention that in the rate quoted in the profiles.
Additional: I was able to take a look at the android Smooci app the ladies use. I got a look at the bookings screen and it shows the customer booking history, the commission the ladies must pay, and the reviews of the customer. These reviews for free members will show your name, email address and phone number. The girls can see all this.Thanks for the review, but some of this information is incorrect and it is important to point it out.
'Smooci does absolutely no age verification'.
We have now launched the age verification feature so escorts have the option to verify their age. This is done by checking their date of birth against an accepted ID. It is then locked to their date of birth and highlighted on the site to premium members as VERIFIED. You can also use the filter feature to only see verified ages.
This is optional for the companions and at the moment only a few have verified but we hope to see this become more natoable in the coming days / weeks. We launched this a few days ago andhad an error with our notification system which is now fixed, so tomorrow we will begin to notify the companions and hope that it will encourage more girls to verify their age.
'they pay 450 Baht to Smooci'.
This is not true. We receive '0' commission from the escorts, and they have the option to use the app totally for free. Free accounts have some restrictions which limit them to 1 booking every 3 days and they can pay for a premium account which is $50 for a month. But we don't receive any part of the booking fee from any companions. Agencies usually take a fee per booking from the girl and this is different for each agency, but they are also responsible for paying the app fees of their girls.
If a girl is claiming she is paying a commission to Smooci and she seems genuine, please let us know as we would like to look into who she is paying this too. We did actually have one incident where some guy downloaded the app for 2 independent girls in Bangkok and charged them a fee or commission, but this was last year and was stopped and dealt with.
'some bookings add a taxi fare depending on where the lady is located but it does not mention that'.
Previously this was done zonally. So if you were staying outside of the central areas of Bangkok (10 km radius from ASOK), the system would add a 500 Baht travel fee, which would be show to the client before the booking is confirmed. We are now starting to change this so that the system can calculate travel times and travel distances based on the distance between the client and the companion. We don't allow companions or agencies to set their own travel fees, these will only be added when the distance is significant and calculated by us and what we deem as a fair amount.
'it shows the customer booking history, the commission the ladies must pay, and the reviews of the customer. These reviews for free members will show your name, email address and phone number. The girls can see all this'.
This is absolutely not true. When a companion receives a booking she will see 3 icons at the top:
1. An icon to show if the client is a premium member or free user.
2. An icon to show if the client is a new users or regular user (has had bookings before).
3. The clients average rating out of 5.
Other than the 3 simple icons absolutely no other booking history is shown anywhere to the companion or on the site. A while back we experimented with the idea of allowing the companions to write reviews of clients but this was scrapped, and now we use a simple anonmyous rating.
Again, any commission she is requested to pay is to her agency and added by them, companions pay 0 commission to Smooci.
I can only assume you are mistaken and have looked at a companions app to see her clients detail. I. e. When she accepts a booking she recieves the clients name, location, and contact details, which are all needed in order for her to attend the booking. There is absolutely no way a companion can see who a client has met previously, and any other details. Even one the companions comments on their profile pages we try to keep it completely anonmyous, only showing the month, year, rating and comment, with no details of the client, and delaying the posting so that it is less obvious which of their clients left the comments.
Crocodilexp
09-14-18, 02:34
Again, any commission she is requested to pay is to her agency and added by them, companions pay 0 commission to Smooci.
Do you require girls to sign up through agencies and get kickbacks from their fees? If not, why would any girl want to pay a commission to an agency if she could sign up directly with Smooci and keep all the money herself? What value does the agency provide, to either the customer, the girl, or Smooci? Something smells fishy there.
Franciscass
09-14-18, 05:21
Do you require girls to sign up through agencies and get kickbacks from their fees? If not, why would any girl want to pay a commission to an agency if she could sign up directly with Smooci and keep all the money herself? What value does the agency provide, to either the customer, the girl, or Smooci? Something smells fishy there.I may be wrong but it seems to me the monetization of the app is through sales of a premium service for both customers and escorts. Some escorts, a minority in my opinion are truly independent I. E. Unaffiliated to any agency and consequently retain all of their fees (pimps not withstanding). Most however understandably find it more beneficial to work through established successful agencies as this gives them wider access to more bookings. Not every booking for an escort is made through Smooci. It seems the practice where an agency deems it more profitable to sign up their girls for the premium package they factor this into their commission structure.
I imagine as the app gains popularity with increasing views advertising will play a part in the revenue mix.
Do you require girls to sign up through agencies and get kickbacks from their fees? If not, why would any girl want to pay a commission to an agency if she could sign up directly with Smooci and keep all the money herself? What value does the agency provide, to either the customer, the girl, or Smooci? Something smells fishy there.Can't speak for smooci, but I've ask these questions to WG I've meet through smooci. Some of the answers I get are:
1. Too lazy, basically they don't want to manage the bookings themselves, it's a lot of management and work.
2. Agency provides "stable" work, girls become loyal to them.
3. Agency provides safety, if somethings go wrong, run like the wind or you'll have someone at your door.
Again, I do not work for smooci, just a broken person after going to BKK.
I wonder how many people here actually use the service. Or talk to WG without the "can you do this." questions.
Crocodilexp
09-14-18, 23:00
Thank you, those answers are interesting, but don't sound particularly convincing.
1. Too lazy, basically they don't want to manage the bookings themselves, it's a lot of management and work.How much work can it be with an app made with the singular purpose of that scheduling bookings for you and telling you where to go? Even without one, we're not talking airline flight scheduling type of problem here. Take a taxi to this place at this hour, bring pussy, get money. Don't overlap appointments. What other "management" is involved? Regulatory compliance and filling tax forms?
Maybe there's a bit of one-time overhead with taking photos and posting a profile, but 90% of the Thais I know use Facebook and have no problem doing such stuff.
2. Agency provides "stable" work, girls become loyal to them.
This is somewhat plausible, if the agency gives them regular work outside of Smooci. I do wonder how they manage to bring more business than a dedicated online platform with a broad audience. None of the agencies have particularly cherished reputation (like, say, Tulip or Snow White do in PSE massage segment). Within the app, I don't see how the agency could affect the amount of bookings a provider gets.
Even if they do get plenty of regular business from agencies, why use them agencies for Smooci, if they have an option of signing up independently and keeping all the money?
3. Agency provides safety, if somethings go wrong, run like the wind or you'll have someone at your door.If thugs who rush to strong-arm customers in case of any dispute is the major service agencies provide, I'd rather stay away altogether. In addition, I don't see most working girls in Thailand being especially concerned about safety, even in venues with far more anonymity and danger factor than an online meetup with customer / provided data and location tracked by an app.
Or talk to WG without the "can you do this." questions.Chit chat is fun, but Thais in general, and working girls in particular, have a tendency to say what you want to hear. That's a good thing, makes the session smoother, and I tend to go along, but always take what they're saying with a big grain of salt.
Gigi Buffon
09-15-18, 00:59
Thank you, those answers are interesting, but don't sound particularly convincing.
How much work can it be with an app made with the singular purpose of that scheduling bookings for you and telling you where to go? Even without one, we're not talking airline flight scheduling type of problem here. Take a taxi to this place at this hour, bring pussy, get money. Don't overlap appointments. What other "management" is involved? Regulatory compliance and filling tax forms?
Maybe there's a bit of one-time overhead with taking photos and posting a profile, but 90% of the Thais I know use Facebook and have no problem doing such stuff..Have heard similar answers from girls as those posted by GCNovice. Some other reasons heard: agency can help them book duos with lesbian activity, which allows them to make more money as they charge extra; agency can book multiple days bookings or holidays as they call it, which bumps their earnings in a given week; regulars and new customers still call agency to make booking because they do not use Smooci. Interestingly, I have seen a few girls that were working for agencies not using Smooci drop the agency and list in Smooci as as independents, the key reasons for at least 2 of them was make more money and like flexibility of being their own boss. Also, feedback from independents that decided to join Smooci was other means to advertise their service was restricted with crawdown on sites, boost their bookings, ease of use and they still decide when they want to work and how to control their time.
Do you require girls to sign up through agencies and get kickbacks from their fees? If not, why would any girl want to pay a commission to an agency if she could sign up directly with Smooci and keep all the money herself? What value does the agency provide, to either the customer, the girl, or Smooci? Something smells fishy there.We are trying to create a next generation escort directory, bringing in some more modern tools and ideas, but ultimately we are still a directory and are running a platform for escorts to advertise and clients to connect with them. I think because we are doing something different some people are skeptikal or misunderstand (thinking we are an agency or a lot more involved with the agencies).
The only payments we receieve from anyone are premium client payments and premium escort payments. We do not recieve any other payments on or off the record.
We actually restrict the number of agencies and agency girls on the platform and chat to the agencies (and do some basic research) before accepting any. We are happy to work with good agencies who have built a strong reputation as it not only gives Smooci credibility it also helps set standards, but we look for agencies with experience and quality, and we don't get any kickbacks, commissions, or any other payments other than the premium memberships (agency's get a free private dashabord but are required to cover all the premium fees for their escorts).
We don't require or encourage girls to join agencies. When an independent contacts us she is sent the app and can create an independent account. We already have a lot of independents on Smooci.
I cannot answer you why some girls chose to work for agencies, I would say there are a variety of reasons. This is not a new situation, escort directories advertising both agencies and independents have been around for a long time, and not so long ago backpage and craiglist were booming for independents, but some girls still preferred to work for agencies.
I cannot answer you why some girls chose to work for agencies, I would say there are a variety of reasons. This is not a new situation, escort directories advertising both agencies and independents have been around for a long time, and not so long ago backpage and craiglist were booming for independents, but some girls still preferred to work for agencies.I'll take a stab at that. If I were a fresh young girl out of the provinces trying to make some money in the big city and open to the idea without having to take a normal job, I would definitely try to hook up with whatever manager, mamasan, agency or pimp could provide me with the best conditions and the most money for the least amount of effort. Who wouldn't?
On that count, an agency like Smooci provides an extremely sweet deal for the girl. In fact, I might go so far as to say it has "pre-negotiated" a deal between the girl and her customer that is so sweet for the girl most experienced punters would reject it in a nanosecond if it were proposed by a girl in a go-go bar, a beer bar, Thermae, Beer Garden Soi 7, on the street or in an online dating site and strongly encourage others to reject it as well for fear of "ruining the market", so to speak, if you believe in things like that.
Just for starters, the customer will be committed to a non-refundable 1,000-2,000 baht cancellation fee on arrival and at first sight of the girl in the flesh. That ought to go a long way to keeping him committed to proceeding with the next step of expenditure no matter what he sees or encounters when that hotel room door swings open. Next, he'll have ten minutes to refine any negotiation loose ends that were not tapped down at the point of booking. Of course, she can say anything she wants during that ten minute final negotiation since he has also been told he must Pay Upfront at the ten minute mark and before anything else happens. After which, if she pulls the kind of things many Pay Upfront FLs would do after pocketing the money beforehand, her only concern might be getting a low Star Rating. But soon enough she might already feel fairly safe in the knowledge that maintaining a pleasant demeanor through whatever does or doesn't occur of a sexual nature in the room will likely assure her a decent if not better than decent Star Rating anyway.
And, should the customer display any negative vibe, displeasure in her behavior or ask for something that in any way offends or bothers her, even issues having to do with the Pay Upfront deal, she can always go back and give him a secret 1 Star Rating that he will never know about but all the other girls he tries to book will. That will also help to weed out the "complainer" or "problem" customers and naturally select for very low demand, easy, go with the flow and accept what you get with a smile at any cost customers over time. Along with the accompanying higher Star Ratings for the girls one would expect from fellows like that.
I don't think it's a mystery at all why a girl would sign up with someone or an agency who has already "pre-negotiated" that kind of deal for her. The mystery is why a much larger percentage of girls in the FL pool as well as every other P4P option pool who can at least produce a fairly fetching small photo album hasn't signed up with them already. Maybe many girls just don't know about them. Yet.
I don't think it's a mystery at all why a girl would sign up with someone or an agency who has already "pre-negotiated" that kind of deal for her. The mystery is why a much larger percentage of girls in the FL pool as well as every other P4P option pool who can at least produce a fairly fetching small photo album hasn't signed up with them already. Maybe many girls just don't know about them. Yet.Do I detect a hint of sarcasm? LOL I do agree with you that many Escorts are likely just not good enough (to my personal taste) to getting that sort of money per hour. For many guys, young and a good body is enough (face does not matter that much). However really top class girls can be very popular and expect to make that sort of money.
To me many escorts are plain looking in the face in particular, I don't like the over blown tits, nose jobs, etc. So I am very wary, since I like to see exactly what I am getting and preferably know the character as well.
Is the girl performance, consistently above the norm? I presume that is what motivates most guys to keep booking escorts, plus they presumably love the surgeries look.
In the end it is just a competition. The girl just has to believe she can beat other girls already working as Escorts.
75% of bar girls and 95% of Oily MP girls are probably just to ordinary (or ugly) to make it in the Escort world. Am I wrong? Presumably the escorts have to have a fairly good body, no disaster areas, and have fairly good skills, and have a face that appeals at least to someone. They can't be too average.
Is the girl performance, consistently above the norm? I presume that is what motivates most guys to keep booking escorts, plus they presumably love the surgeries look.
What has given you the impression that repeat escort service customers care much at all about the girl's performance? I certainly don't see any evidence of that in the acceptance of the handling of the Star Rating system on Smooci, in the customer comments for the girls on Smooci and the very passionate defense here of keeping any assessments of the girls at the vague "overall experience" level, which in most cases I've read amounts to guys being much, much more concerned about the girls' looks (matching her pics), demeanor, maybe if they felt comfortable enough to sit for hours having a drink and chatting about life first and all that.
lol. When was the last time anyone other than ME argued for any of the review mechanisms to finally be related directly to whether or not the girl actually fully and completely performed the services listed or as conscientiously as might be expected for the money? And then be blasted with flame throwers by the supposed escort service regulars for daring to suggest such a horrible thing?
Crocodilexp
09-17-18, 10:55
an agency like Smooci provides an extremely sweet deal for the girl. In fact, I might go so far as to say it has "pre-negotiated" a deal between the girl and her customer that is so sweet for the girl most experienced punters would reject it in a nanosecond if it were proposed by a girl in a go-go bar, a beer bar, Thermae, Beer Garden Soi 7, on the street or in an online dating site and strongly encourage others to reject it as well for fear of "ruining the market", so to speak, if you believe in things like that.Great summary of the "escort" scene in Thailand.
Smooci is ostensibly not an agency, but an online marketplace, albeit one that cornered a very specific niche of overpriced escorts for less-than-demanding Farang customers. Somehow, girls there manage to charge 2 x to 3 x the price of local competitors like FinFanFan. Admittedly, the website and ordering experience is superior, but girl quality, quantity or selection are certainly not.
The mystery is why a much larger percentage of girls in the FL pool as well as every other P4P option pool who can at least produce a fairly fetching small photo album hasn't signed up with them already.
That's a mystery to me as well.
When Smooci started out, I had high hopes that they would become a big mass-market platform (like ThaiFriendly, but for paid sex) and that influx of freelance providers would push prices down to reasonable levels (and make the selection more appealing as well). Thailand definitely has a need for such a platform, both on the demand and supply side.
Unfortunately, that has not happened. At this point, it seems that Smooci is simply not interested in targeting the mass market outside their niche. Not sure why, maybe if they became big enough, they'd get busted by the authorities, or make less profit. Disappointing, but can't blame them, they're a business.
I'll take a stab at that. If I were a fresh young girl out of the provinces trying to make some money in the big city and open to the idea without having to take a normal job, I would definitely try to hook up with whatever manager, mamasan, agency or pimp could provide me with the best conditions and the most money for the least amount of effort. Who wouldn't?...That was one excellent analysis of the escort agency scene. Recently, a buddy while passing though Bangkok on his way to Vietnam, used their services. When I asked him why he did that? He replied that he liked the convenience, no need to go out and compete with other mongers for a girl. He was Ok with getting the company of a Thai girl even if she would not be his first choice. Money was not an issue for him.
We are pleased to announce that Smooci will be launching in Berlin, Germany on 9th October http://blog.smooci.com/post/berlin-launch.
This will be our first European launch and we will be looking to follow it up with further European launches in the coming months https://smooci.com/europe.
When Smooci started out, I had high hopes that they would become a big mass-market platform (like ThaiFriendly, but for paid sex) and that influx of freelance providers would push prices down to reasonable levels (and make the selection more appealing as well). Seems a very unrealistic expectation. Nothing much pushes prices down, even recession.
Influx would mean a larger selection but mostly less appealing. Most girls in the influx would not be able to make enough money. Demand is only so large.
Sure if ALL the girls were making big money hand over fist, you could expect a big influx. I suspect many girls try and fail to make it or are not patient enough to build a reputation or clientele.
We could all wish to be movie stars because movie stars make big money but we could turn up to Hollywood and find no one is interested.
Change is generally Gradual! Sudden huge change usually fails. How fast did the internet take off?
Gigi Buffon
09-28-18, 21:18
Thanks for the review, but some of this information is incorrect and it is important to point it out.
'Smooci does absolutely no age verification'.
We have now launched the age verification feature so escorts have the option to verify their age. This is done by checking their date of birth against an accepted ID. It is then locked to their date of birth and highlighted on the site to premium members as VERIFIED. You can also use the filter feature to only see verified
is a premium member or free user.Not sure if this is the outcome of the age verification steps that Smooci has taken, but if it is, there is some progress on this front. Masis, an escort listed in Bangkok Dreams Girl, in the agency site, the age posted is 26, in the Smooci site, Masis age is listed at 42. All other stats and photos remain the same on both sites.
Crocodilexp
09-28-18, 22:21
Seems a very unrealistic expectation. Nothing much pushes prices down, even recession.You're right, prices almost never get pushed below the established market rate.
What I meant was that I hoped mass adoption of Smooci would push the price on the website down from astronomical escort levels to market rates that you can find among freelancers and bargirls on Sukhumvit, as well as on other online ad platforms like FinFanFan. In 2018, that level is 1000-2500 baht for anything from a 1 pop to a 2 hour session, depending on what the girl wants to offer. Currently, Smooci is over 2 x those rates, with a tendency of going up, without much better quality or service.
What I hoped for was no barfines or drink games, no waiting in the bar or walking the streets, just an efficient way to connect providers and customers with minimum hassle at existing market rates, without overheads, and with a wide choice of providers. Alas, seems like that will never happen with Smooci.
You're right, prices almost never get pushed below the established market rate.
What I meant was that I hoped mass adoption of Smooci would push the price on the website down from astronomical escort levels to market rates that you can find among freelancers and bargirls on Sukhumvit, as well as on other online ad platforms like FinFanFan. In 2018, that level is 1000-2500 baht for anything from a 1 pop to a 2 hour session, depending on what the girl wants to offer. Currently, Smooci is over 2 x those rates, with a tendency of going up, without much better quality or service.
What I hoped for was no barfines or drink games, no waiting in the bar or walking the streets, just an efficient way to connect providers and customers with minimum hassle at existing market rates, without overheads, and with a wide choice of providers. Alas, seems like that will never happen with Smooci.I don't think this is quite true or fair. Of our initial goals for our Bangkok platform the one we feel we've been most successful on is price, especially with regards to agency escorts.
In our initial research the average price for online escorts on similar escort directories, classifieds, and agency websites was 5,000 to 6,000 baht for 2 hours. 18 months in and the average agency girls price on our site is between 3,000 and 4,000 Baht and 2 shots, with many also offering a cheaper 1 hour option.
While these prices aren't comparable to street action and perhaps beer bar girl prices, we feel it's been very successful with regards to price and in comparison to the rival sites. While we are not in direct competition with the gogo bar scene, I'd say we've also somewhat closed the gap price wise, with current prices for a complete short time experience being comparable and usually with only 1 shot.
Smooci is by no means a finished product. It's grew much quicker that we expected and we are still kind of playing catch up. There are some important features we have still not manage to work on, but we are getting closer to being able to add in a chat feature and a 'make offer' system which should make smooci work better for the guys who prefer some form of negotiation.
Crocodilexp
09-29-18, 23:12
In our initial research the average price for online escorts on similar escort directories, classifieds, and agency websites was 5,000 to 6,000 baht for 2 hours. 18 months in and the average agency girls price on our site is between 3,000 and 4,000 Baht and 2 shots, with many also offering a cheaper 1 hour option.
It's obvious that you positioned yourself within a niche of vastly overpriced "escorts" (2-4 x the going rate in most other market segments), with customers who are not especially picky about either price, service or advanced age of the providers. It's also obvious that within this segment, it makes business sense to give virtually all of the negotiation and pricing power to the providers, and that the punters only get the glossy website with convenience of easy booking, and not much else. Nothing wrong with that from a business standpoint, cornering a niche market can be easier and safer than going for the mass market (albeit with limited growth potential).
The question on my mind used to be whether Smooci will ever go for the mass market, and my feeling is that that's simply not going to happen. There's a large open space for a mass market working girl platform in Thailand, and I hope someone will eventually fill it.
It's obvious that you positioned yourself within a niche of vastly overpriced "escorts"I don't agree. We are an open platform, we allow agencies and independents. The main requirememts we have is that independents must be independent and we have flags in place related to GPS posistions which helps us catch out agencies / pimps using independent accounts. We limit the number of agencies we have, screening agency applications and not allowing more until the number of independents hit our targets, but we encourage any genuine Bangkok independent to join and they can set the price they want.
To say we are a glossy website and our clients are not picky, don't care about ages or price or photo verification, couldn't be further from the truth. People are welcome to criticise and have a negative option but we try to speak up when we feel information is misleading.
Our concept is to introduce a live booking experience, bring in more verified information (including verified ratings and comments), and create a more competitive market place. It perhaps never be a service that suits everyone's style or purpose but we are working har dto make a better experience for the clients and the escorts. Smooci is definitely not a finished article but that's the aim and we feel with made some good steps in the right direction with more features to come soon which will push further towards that goal.
Smooci is by no means a finished product. It's grew much quicker that we expected and we are still kind of playing catch up. There are some important features we have still not manage to work on, but we are getting closer to being able to add in a chat feature and a 'make offer' system which should make smooci work better for the guys who prefer some form of negotiation.That sounds interesting. Assuming this chat feature is established, will it be understood by both sides that their conversation, up-to-the-minute photo sharing from each side, video chatting, whatever is 100% private between the two of them and will not be monitored or seen by anyone else? In other words, will it be understood to be as private a chat and negotiation between the customer and the girl as one would have on, say, the Line app?
That sounds interesting. Assuming this chat feature is established, will it be understood by both sides that their conversation, up-to-the-minute photo sharing from each side, video chatting, whatever is 100% private between the two of them and will not be monitored or seen by anyone else? In other words, will it be understood to be as private a chat and negotiation between the customer and the girl as one would have on, say, the Line app?Yes, of course, private chates would be just that. I can answer more specific questions once features are introduced and live.
Yes, of course, private chates would be just that. I can answer more specific questions once features are introduced and live.Outstanding! If that is the case, I would be happy to book a girl through Smooci as long as we come to an agreement on terms. IMO, direct and private customer-to-provider discussion, photo exchange and brief live video chat (in the absence of meeting in person, of course) is a far superior means for both sides getting what they need and want in the arrangement than just about any other method.
Outstanding! If that is the case, I would be happy to book a girl through Smooci as long as we come to an agreement on terms. IMO, direct and private customer-to-provider discussion, photo exchange and brief live video chat (in the absence of meeting in person, of course) is a far superior means for both sides getting what they need and want in the arrangement than just about any other method.That's the goal but sadly there are a high number of guys who would take advantage of an easy chat and video chat function.
When we started Smooci we first wanted to find ways to limit the fake bookings and timewasters and try to bring the companions a high percentage of genuine clients / bookings, which we have achieved to an extent. We are now getting in a position where we can start to introduce the ability to chat and negotiatie, but we are working on ways to do it without it increasing the number of fake bookings.
We understand that a chat feature is needed to improve the service and in many markets being able to negotiate is required to become more accepted, so we are trying to find the right way to do it. We still want the concept of the client and companion having a clear agreement in writing, so one idea is to follow the airbnb way of allowing the companions to send a custom offer after initial chat (adjusting the rate / shots / time) and having both parties accept that and having it clear.
Outstanding! If that is the case, I would be happy to book a girl through Smooci as long as we come to an agreement on terms. IMO, direct and private customer-to-provider discussion, photo exchange and brief live video chat (in the absence of meeting in person, of course) is a far superior means for both sides getting what they need and want in the arrangement than just about any other method.I can imagine a girls' specs saying she does not do anal, rimming, an absolutely no BBFS, and yet some guy will still want to try to negotiate it. I imagine guys like this will have to be disabled from using Smooci, as being waste of time types. I am sure girls don't want to be spending a lot of time negotiating price either, so just what is there to be negotiated in particular? Can I make a porno video? LOL Clearly we expect her to be like her pic and perform services she says she performs.
I can imagine a girls' specs saying she does not do anal, rimming, an absolutely no BBFS, and yet some guy will still want to try to negotiate it. I imagine guys like this will have to be disabled from using Smooci, as being waste of time types. I am sure girls don't want to be spending a lot of time negotiating price either, so just what is there to be negotiated in particular? Can I make a porno video? LOL Clearly we expect her to be like her pic and perform services she says she performs.Well, if that is the way you see it, why bother having a conversation at all with any girl before choosing her, including those you meet face to face on the street or in a go-go bar?
First of all, I have not seen any Smooci profile that states, "I do NOT do this or that". And if girls booked through Smooci, any other booking site, dating site, that we meet face to face on the street or in a bar never offered or provided more than what is now listed on those Smooci profiles, Thailand could scarcely be considered a P4P destination at all! Good lord, NONE of them now list "fucking" or any other euphemism for it as a service they offer and typically less than HALF of them list CIM!
Do you honestly feel there is zero benefit in having a live video chat with a girl so you can see her more accurately than in a doctored photo she submitted herself and so she can see and hear YOU for the first time ever before she agrees to anything off the menu for a price different than that stated on the site (a customer might even offer more in order to get more, BTW)? How about actually looking at a girl on a go-go bar stage and having her sit next to you for a brief chat over a drink? No benefit to that either?
All of this stuff is "negotiation". We do it for virtually every encounter sexual or otherwise even though we don't like using that word.
If nothing else, it would save someone like ME the 1,000-2,000 baht non refundable cancellation fee on arrival where I would otherwise then have only 10 minutes to see her moving and "live" for the first time, be assessed by her for the first time and settle any "off the menu" requirements I need or I would be totally wasting the next 3,000+ baht expenditure I would be required to pay upfront.
I don't know about the "in writing" thing SmoociApp mentioned, that is different. As always, the Devil Is In The Details so I'll wait to see how that develops. But I'll say this, if something must be put in writing, the very first thing if not the only thing I will insist be put in writing is, "I will happily pay XXXX baht IF and AFTER Nong has successfully completed the sex acts we discussed privately in our chat, not BEFORE." LOL.
Well, if that is the way you see it, why bother having a conversation at all with any girl before choosing her, including those you meet face to face on the street or in a go-go bar?
Good answer if a little exaggerated. When I chat to a gogo girl, it is not really about "negotiation" as such. It is more finding out her personality and the possibility to have fun, and what she likes and doesn't like.
There are some critical questions, I guess. Does she insist on her condoms, and if so what are they? Does she prefer Farangs or Asians? Big or small? LOL.
So yes I can see now that would be very useful with an Escort also, if really feasible. I suspect a little more difficult by video (but have not tried it). I was probably thrown off by the term "Negotiation" since I am not a big time negotiator, mainly seeking girls willing to have "fun", which could be squashed by negotiation somewhat.
I suspect many Escorts maybe resistant to the idea of interview first, unless they see that as an advantage to decide which customers to reject as well.
Would be nice to see what the Escort really looks like. That is the most important step for me. The sight unseen thing is my major stumbling block, being so picky with faces and surgeries. 90% of escorts don't have the look I would want and that is based on Photoshopped already.
However window shopping video links does not sound that feasible. I could imagine seeing the girl for 30 seconds then rejecting many of them, and finally getting black banned. LOL
Similar to how I walk in an out of the succession of MPs on occasion, looking for a special looking girl.
Good answer if a little exaggerated. When I chat to a gogo girl, it is not really about "negotiation" as such. It is more finding out her personality and the possibility to have fun, and what she likes and doesn't like.
There are some critical questions, I guess. Does she insist on her condoms, and if so what are they? Does she prefer Farangs or Asians? Big or small? LOL.
So yes I can see now that would be very useful with an Escort also, if really feasible. I suspect a little more difficult by video (but have not tried it). I was probably thrown off by the term "Negotiation" since I am not a big time negotiator, mainly seeking girls willing to have "fun", which could be squashed by negotiation somewhat.
I suspect many Escorts maybe resistant to the idea of interview first, unless they see that as an advantage to decide which customers to reject as well.
Would be nice to see what the Escort really looks like. That is the most important step for me. The sight unseen thing is my major stumbling block, being so picky with faces and surgeries. 90% of escorts don't have the look I would want and that is based on Photoshopped already.
However window shopping video links does not sound that feasible. I could imagine seeing the girl for 30 seconds then rejecting many of them, and finally getting black banned. LOL
Similar to how I walk in an out of the succession of MPs on occasion, looking for a special looking girl.See, I submit that your charming manor and her lovey-dovey response to it (if so) are all part of a "negotiation". You are both negotiating for better treatment by the other. Perhaps only walking into a retail store and choosing a shirt off the rack involves no negotiation. That sort of thing.
The questions that are important to you and that you ask girls already can certainly be asked in a fun and non businesslike way and I assume that is the way you do it, right? Just as the questions that are important to me and that I might ask can be asked in a fun and non businesslike way. This is only more evidence that we just don't like the term "negotiation", yet we all do it most of the time or we'd get rolled all day and night by everyone else.
However, I do share your concern about overdoing it or just becoming a nuisance. But my feeling about that is if I get rejected by a girl because she refuses to agree to the way I need and want things, then she has just saved me a lot of wasted time and money. I'm rejecting her, too. Same as it is in a go-go bar, on the street or online elsewhere now. And if I get blackballed by an entire service or bar because I view the offerings so often yet can never find someone suitable, I already know it is easy for me to find what I am looking for somewhere else and I will spend my money there instead, no problem.
Hell, I was already doing fine getting what I want my way without this or that go-go bar, this or that booking service, and so on. The pressure is on THEM to find a reason to move the money out of my pocket and into theirs, not on ME to find a reason to give them money despite their being incapable or unwilling to provide justification to do it. My money is mobile, very easy to move every baht in my pocket from one location to another.
Clicked on her profile and near the bottom in the box that says "about me" she has listed 'transport 500 baht'. Is she asking for transportation money from every client?
Clicked on her profile and near the bottom in the box that says "about me" she has listed 'transport 500 baht'. Is she asking for transportation money from every client?Thanks for pointing that out, we have removed it and sent a note to the companion.
The system uses the distance between the companion and the client to add on any fair travel charges but these aren't effective unless the journey is at least 10 KM (I think, I'd have to double check current distance for Bangkok).
In general we allow the description to be a free text space, but we will try to stop girls from adding extra costs here as it will not be automatically added to the booking fee on confirmation and will cause confusion.
In this case we explained to Miimi how the travel fees are calculated, and that if she needed to add 500 baht to every booking for travel she needs to add this to her rate so that it is clear to the cleints.
Anyone have the chance to see Tharaya Soinak? Listed as independent with no reviews yet.
https://smooci.com/escorts/68Knd5
ShimShimHeyo
10-08-18, 04:39
I have tried Smooci in Bangkok and Manila. I think the system works. However, I found myself gravitating back to agencies because of one main reason. I like classy women who are a little on the shy side. Therefore, before selecting a companion, I liked reading each girl's bio and asking the agency rep a little about their personality. With smooci, it is almost impossible to gauge an escort's demeanor.
How about an additional stat in their profile "general personality"? Or something like that?
An escort can have several boxes to click ranging from: Shy, Outgoing, Classy / Sophisticated, Casual, Girl Next Door, Wild / Party Girl, Affectionate, Adventurous, Cute / Kawaii, and even an option for "tell me what you want. " A girl can click several or just one, letting a client know their general personality.
I have tried Smooci in Bangkok and Manila. I think the system works. However, I found myself gravitating back to agencies because of one main reason. I like classy women who are a little on the shy side. Therefore, before selecting a companion, I liked reading each girl's bio and asking the agency rep a little about their personality. With smooci, it is almost impossible to gauge an escort's demeanor.
How about an additional stat in their profile "general personality"? Or something like that?
An escort can have several boxes to click ranging from: Shy, Outgoing, Classy / Sophisticated, Casual, Girl Next Door, Wild / Party Girl, Affectionate, Adventurous, Cute / Kawaii, and even an option for "tell me what you want. " A girl can click several or just one, letting a client know their general personality.Great idea, but I doubt how beneficial will it be. First of all there is no reason for girls to really click on those check boxes which represent their personality. They will go by this thinking what the person watching this on other side will like.
And just like this is is with pics, we will be quite surprised once we really meet 'them. But yes, no doubt this is 'a nice to have'.
I will be in Bangkok in two months. Could someone tell me the reason the exclusive rate from Smooci is significant lower than the actual Agency rate? For example, I saw the rate in one of the Agency girl is 5000 bht for 2 HR, however I find the same girl listed in Smooci in the same agency is 3000 bht for 2 HR. This is unreal for the price discount, even the agency want to promote this girl. Why would the agency want to do that? I'm not complaining for this low rate from Smooci, but I want to know the rational of the agency to agree such a significant rate drop and the services of this girl that listed on Smooci will commit if I book this agency girl from Smooci.
Hi Smooci,
Can you please give a very rough time frame for your availability in Pattaya?
Gigi Buffon
10-29-18, 20:31
I will be in Bangkok in two months. Could someone tell me the reason the exclusive rate from Smooci is significant lower than the actual Agency rate? For example, I saw the rate in one of the Agency girl is 5000 bht for 2 HR, however I find the same girl listed in Smooci in the same agency is 3000 bht for 2 HR. This is unreal for the price discount, even the agency want to promote this girl. Why would the agency want to do that? I'm not complaining for this low rate from Smooci, but I want to know the rational of the agency to agree such a significant rate drop and the services of this girl that listed on Smooci will commit if I book this agency girl from Smooci.I cannot explain the reason why the agency charges less for "some" girls listed in Smooci, however what I can say is that I no longer book a girl that I have been with before, if she is listed on Smooci at a lower or similar rate, the only thing that I always check is the rate and shots allowed in the rate, to make sure these are the same as previous, regarding the services provided, in most cases is exactly the same. I have found booking through Smooci simpler and reliable, no need for calls, etc. The girls get the same amount of money, as per what they have told me, so the drop in rate seems to be coming from the agency. The top girls basically charge the same (Smooci or Agency). If you do not have a premium membership and you want to book in advance, you need to go through the agency, the same applies to booking duos or multiple days.
CockaSaurus
11-01-18, 05:22
I have tried Smooci in Bangkok and Manila. I think the system works. However, I found myself gravitating back to agencies because of one main reason. I like classy women who are a little on the shy side. Therefore, before selecting a companion, I liked reading each girl's bio and asking the agency rep a little about their personality. With smooci, it is almost impossible to gauge an escort's demeanor..Eh why can't you do the first part, find out what you want and then book with Smooci? I never been to Thailand but planning a trip and would like to try Smooci and from what I've read it is cheaper to book through them.
Hi Smooci,
Can you please give a very rough time frame for your availability in Pattaya?We don't have a date set for Pattaya, we admittedly rushed in to planning a Pattaya launch plan before realizing we need to wait.
We have gotten a lot of attention in Pattaya, we get a lot of escorts and clients contacting us about Pattaya on a daily basis now. One concern is that we don't want to become overly dependent on the Thai market or get too much attention in Thailand before we are established in Europe.
Secondly, having done more research on Pattaya we realize the market is very different there and will require the a chat / negotiation feature.
The good news is that we should have the chat feature ready around the end of this month. Once the chat feature is working without any concerns we can then plan for a Pattaya launch, to fit along with our European launches in Berlin, London, Amsterdam, and Barcelona over the next 6 months.
Franciscass
11-13-18, 06:57
Smooci.
Your site says 1 hour bookings only available to premium members. Fine but any escort I click on has a minimum booking period of 3 hours. Am I missing something?
Smooci.
Your site says 1 hour bookings only available to premium members. Fine but any escort I click on has a minimum booking period of 3 hours. Am I missing something?Premium members can booking 1-24 hours, standard users can book 2-24 hours (so 1 hour bookings is a premium feature).
Not every escort will offer the full set of durations, some only offer 1, 2, 3 hour bookings, while others maybe only work occassionally and prefer longer bookings of 10,12, 15,24 bookings. The girls can select which durations they are available for, but most escorts offer 1 and 2 hours as standard.
May I make a suggestion to your age filter, I would suggest you adjust your age filter from '18 to 23' to '18 to 25' number. There are just way too many obviously over 30 escorts who lower their age to 29 in order to be included in any filters. And its not really fair to the girls who do look 24 and 25 respectively to lose business to girls lowering their age a bit past their prime.
Another option would be to add 'by age' to the search function. Let us list the girls from younger to older so we don't have to go thru old hag after old hag.
Member #4591
11-23-18, 12:57
I only use Smooci and only when I am too lazy to go out. I love Smooci because of the convenience factor as well as the rates are well below the rates for the same girl from their home agency. The customer service by them is also top notch. Their premium service is well worth the money for tourists or occasional visits but if you are a local expat, I would advise against it. Travellers can use the reviews and comments and verified photos to save time and ensure themselves a better chance of a good experience. Local expats like myself don't require that as we can afford to have the odd bad experience because we have all the time in the world. Premium members can book for 1 hour while non members must book 2 hours at a minimum. Please keep in mind that whatever age you see for the girl on smooci, add 5 years to it and then you will maybe still be under her real age. Very few post their actual age and untouched photos. Also the girls can review you just as you can review them. Keep that in mind when posting a nasty review. There are ways you can complain by posting a negative review without offending the ladies. Prices range from 2,700 up to 12,000 baht. These days there are many more independents there and the selection of ladies is improving daily. Pay attention as some areas will incur a travel surcharge. Please pay attention to the page after you select your address for this. You must always pay first.
I only use Smooci and only when I am too lazy to go out. I love Smooci because of the convenience factor as well as the rates are well below the rates for the same girl from their home agency. The customer service by them is also top notch. Their premium service is well worth the money for tourists or occasional visits but if you are a local expat, I would advise against it. Travellers can use the reviews and comments and verified photos to save time and ensure themselves a better chance of a good experience. Local expats like myself don't require that as we can afford to have the odd bad experience because we have all the time in the world. Premium members can book for 1 hour while non members must book 2 hours at a minimum. Please keep in mind that whatever age you see for the girl on smooci, add 5 years to it and then you will maybe still be under her real age. Very few post their actual age and untouched photos. Also the girls can review you just as you can review them. Keep that in mind when posting a nasty review. There are ways you can complain by posting a negative review without offending the ladies. Prices range from 2,700 up to 12,000 baht. These days there are many more independents there and the selection of ladies is improving daily. Pay attention as some areas will incur a travel surcharge. Please pay attention to the page after you select your address for this. You must always pay first.Thanks for the review.
Since launching the age verification option we are starting to see more girls verify their age. This means that we check their ID and lock their age to the DOB on their accepted ID. We have also added a filter for users to only see girls with verified age.
In the next 2 weeks we will also be adding a new chat feature which we hope will make a big impact for premium members. This will allow premium users to message and chat with companions without having to make a booking first. The chat feature will also allow companions to send revised offers, so if the client and companion agree to a different price, number of shots or duration, a new offer can be agreed on in writing with both parties having a copy of the updated details.
Thomas Casey
11-26-18, 01:07
I was wondering if there is any way to make a booking with Smooci without using my full legal name. I have non issue providing my phone number, hotel, room etc, however was wondering if there was a way to use an abbreviated form of my name or alias for the sake of anonymity. I'm sure your site is relatively secure, but I would hate for there to be a data breach like Ashley Madison had several years ago and have my name be publicly displayed for all to see.
Thank you for any advice.
TC.
I would like to book an premium membership.
Is it possible to register with a mobile phone number from my home country and later change to my Thai number?
Which are the ways to pay for the Premium membership?
I was wondering if there is any way to make a booking with Smooci without using my full legal name. I have non issue providing my phone number, hotel, room etc, however was wondering if there was a way to use an abbreviated form of my name or alias for the sake of anonymity. I'm sure your site is relatively secure, but I would hate for there to be a data breach like Ashley Madison had several years ago and have my name be publicly displayed for all to see.
Thank you for any advice.
TC.Unlike Ashley Maddison we do not store full credit card details on our system, this is done on a third party sever and system. We don't get the credit card details, we only get confirmation a payment was successful attached to an email address.
We don't require clients to put in their full name or even their real name. The way bookings work are that the client is required to fill in the 'name' field in order to send the booking but we don't check or verify this. Bookings are then sent to the agency or independent who can accept or decline the bookings.
Some agencies and independents will want to check that a booking is genuine by discreetly calling the hotel / accommodation to check the name and room match in order to see the booking is genuine, especially if the users is new and not premium, but we don't use this policy personally we will send a booking request regardless of the name used.
If you are a new user and not premium, one tip would be to use a nickname on the booking form (e. G. Mack), and also let your reception know you are known as Mack in case anyone calls for you. That should allow you to avoid using your real name and help the escort verify the booking is genuine.
We have been working on a chat feature which we are looking to launch within the next 2 weeks.
This will allos premium clients to message escorts without having to first make a booking.
As part of the feature we hope to be able to give the escorts the ability to send counter offers and adjusted booking details (fees. Times, shots) to help with negotiations and keeping the details clear to both parties.
AstoraDick
11-30-18, 22:36
Any chance to increase the number of agencies and their slots? Maybe invite massage parlors / go-go bars, Mitu and Bilboards for example, into the platform as well?
In my opinion, the introduction of independents was not a success despite aggressive incentive to members introducing companions to the platform. The number of independents, their consistency and possibly communication are hardly mediocre.
Somehow, I could say that the platform is going into stagnation in term of companion pool. I strongly suggest to add 1-2 more agencies as the current agencies were with you since inception. It is no harm to do so and throw something into the mix.
Go-go bars and MPs have many talents idle at times and they could find the platform very useful, too.
I have booked about 13-15 companions so far and 2-3 of them were independents and I'm very fond of the platform. But, I'm starting to look into go-go bars and MPs for alternatives.
Please do consider adding few more agencies.
We don't have a date set for Pattaya, we admittedly rushed in to planning a Pattaya launch plan before realizing we need to wait.
We have gotten a lot of attention in Pattaya, we get a lot of escorts and clients contacting us about Pattaya on a daily basis now. One concern is that we don't want to become overly dependent on the Thai market or get too much attention in Thailand before we are established in Europe.
Secondly, having done more research on Pattaya we realize the market is very different there and will require the a chat / negotiation feature.
The good news is that we should have the chat feature ready around the end of this month. Once the chat feature is working without any concerns we can then plan for a Pattaya launch, to fit along with our European launches in Berlin, London, Amsterdam, and Barcelona over the next 6 months.Hi. What is the status for the European launch now?
We have been working on a chat feature which we are looking to launch within the next 2 weeks.
This will allos premium clients to message escorts without having to first make a booking.
As part of the feature we hope to be able to give the escorts the ability to send counter offers and adjusted booking details (fees. Times, shots) to help with negotiations and keeping the details clear to both parties.I'd imagine more guys would sign up for your premium membership if they feel they can save some money by being able to negotiate.
Hi. What is the status for the European launch now?Berlin is just about ready to launch. We are now testing the chat feature and ironing out the bugs, and we should be ready to roll out the chat and Berlin launch some time next week.
We are then looking to launch in London late Jan / early Feb, and Barcelona and Amsterdam not long after that.
Any chance to increase the number of agencies and their slots? Maybe invite massage parlors / go-go bars, Mitu and Bilboards for example, into the platform as well?
In my opinion, the introduction of independents was not a success despite aggressive incentive to members introducing companions to the platform. The number of independents, their consistency and possibly communication are hardly mediocre.
Somehow, I could say that the platform is going into stagnation in term of companion pool. I strongly suggest to add 1-2 more agencies as the current agencies were with you since inception. It is no harm to do so and throw something into the mix.
Go-go bars and MPs have many talents idle at times and they could find the platform very useful, too.
I have booked about 13-15 companions so far and 2-3 of them were independents and I'm very fond of the platform. But, I'm starting to look into go-go bars and MPs for alternatives.
Please do consider adding few more agencies.We were actually hoping to get more independents and would like to get the quota closer to 60/40 in favour of agencies. The agencies offer good stabilty and customer services, but the independents bring in better variety.
We do get several new independents sign up each week which helps to keep things fresh. We may look at adding more agencies in the new year but ideally we can't the number of independents to grow first.
AstoraDick
12-06-18, 16:37
We were actually hoping to get more independents and would like to get the quota closer to 60/40 in favour of agencies. The agencies offer good stabilty and customer services, but the independents bring in better variety.
We do get several new independents sign up each week which helps to keep things fresh. We may look at adding more agencies in the new year but ideally we can't the number of independents to grow first.That's reassuring. But, how about teaming up with go-go bars and MPS too?
That's reassuring. But, how about teaming up with go-go bars and MPS too?We have had interest from both before and have discussed it, but the way Smooci works doesn't suite those kind of places.
We maintain Smooci as a live booking platform, requiring girls to only be online when they are available to respond quickly to bookings. Bookings requests are immediately sent to the apps of the girls and they have 10 minutes to respond, and currently most responses are within 3 minutes. If a companion doesn't respond within 10 minutes the booking is auto declined so the client can book again. The companion is then timed out and sent offline, and if they time- out too often their account is suspended for periods.
Most gogos and massages don't allow their girls to have their phones with them while working, or at least don't want then to be constantly checking their phones, so they wouldn't be able to use Smooci in the correct way.
AstoraDick
12-07-18, 19:21
We have had interest from both before and have discussed it, but the way Smooci works doesn't suite those kind of places.
We maintain Smooci as a live booking platform, requiring girls to only be online when they are available to respond quickly to bookings. Bookings requests are immediately sent to the apps of the girls and they have 10 minutes to respond, and currently most responses are within 3 minutes. If a companion doesn't respond within 10 minutes the booking is auto declined so the client can book again. The companion is then timed out and sent offline, and if they time- out too often their account is suspended for periods.
Most gogos and massages don't allow their girls to have their phones with them while working, or at least don't want then to be constantly checking their phones, so they wouldn't be able to use Smooci in the correct way.There has to be a solution to bring them on board, don't you think so?
What if you tweak the app so one dedicated manager can receive the request and upon accepting, the request will be shared to the companion and shown on her app. The GPS tracking will then start and show the journey to the client. The manager can control the status of the companion ones she's bar fined and also when she returns.
That's one way to go about it. The only concern I can think of is that the talents don't like to be photographed but surely a handful of them wouldn't mind. Like the go-go bars themselves do tweet about their talents on the social media.
There has to be a solution to bring them on board, don't you think so?
What if you tweak the app so one dedicated manager can receive the request and upon accepting, the request will be shared to the companion and shown on her app. The GPS tracking will then start and show the journey to the client. The manager can control the status of the companion ones she's bar fined and also when she returns.
That's one way to go about it. The only concern I can think of is that the talents don't like to be photographed but surely a handful of them wouldn't mind. Like the go-go bars themselves do tweet about their talents on the social media.Forgive me for jumping in here. I don't have personal reports to relate about Smooci's booking process so I am supposed to be a good boy and not comment here too much. But when someone begins to push for Smooci to branch out into the go-go bar trade, then that IS my territory and I must say something.
Smooci is a convenience for those who can't or don't want to leave their hotel room to arrange a P4P session in a huge city chock-ful of places to do that in person. And Smooci can rightly claim to have helped reduce the cost of some girls who apparently weren't getting enough bookings through their usual Escort service site at their usual stated prices. Good for the escort service crowd. As long as they are fine with accepting a reduced cost for those girls in exchange for that very sweet deal Smooci has pre-negotiated for the girls vs for the customers, that is.
But nobody has mentioned what Smooci has done to the cost of Freelancers, referred to as Independents on Smooci, who have found and put themselves on that site. The cost of those Freelancers is now 2-3 TIMES what I am absolutely certain I would have to pay those same girls if they only had Thermae, other bars, the dating sites and the street on which to ply their trade. In several cases, they are 2-3 times what I HAVE paid those same girls back when they were a couple of years younger, slimmer and more sexually accommodating than their newly limited Smooci profile list of provided services suggests!
And if any one of them had tried to strike the sweet deal for themselves that Smooci has pre-negotiated for them, I would have quickly walked away laughing before they got past the 1,000-2,000 baht Cancellation Fee On Arrival in the room part of it to even GET to the Full Payment Must Be Paid Upfront Within 10 Minutes crap.
Why in the world would you want Smooci to do that same thing to the go-go bar option and for girls who work in go-go bars but, thank god, apparently have not heard of Smooci yet?
Member #4591
12-08-18, 03:02
Forgive me for jumping in here. I don't have personal reports to relate about Smooci's booking process so I am supposed to be a good boy and not comment here too much. But when someone begins to push for Smooci to branch out into the go-go bar trade, then that IS my territory and I must say something.
Smooci is a convenience for those who can't or don't want to leave their hotel room to arrange a P4P session in a huge city chock-ful of places to do that in person. And Smooci can rightly claim to have helped reduce the cost of some girls who apparently weren't getting enough bookings through their usual Escort service site at their usual stated prices. Good for the escort service crowd. As long as they are fine with accepting a reduced cost for those girls in exchange for that very sweet deal Smooci has pre-negotiated for the girls vs for the customers, that is.
But nobody has mentioned what Smooci has done to the cost of Freelancers, referred to as Independents on Smooci, who have found and put themselves on that site. The cost of those Freelancers is now 2-3 TIMES what I am absolutely certain I would have to pay those same girls if they only had Thermae, other bars, the dating sites and the street on which to ply their trade. In several cases, they are 2-3 times what I HAVE paid those same girls back when they were a couple of years younger, slimmer and more sexually accommodating than their newly limited Smooci profile list of provided services suggests!
And if any one of them had tried to strike the sweet deal for themselves that Smooci has pre-negotiated for them, I would have quickly walked away laughing before they got past the 1,000-2,000 baht Cancellation Fee On Arrival in the room part of it to even GET to the Full Payment Must Be Paid Upfront Within 10 Minutes crap.
Why in the world would you want Smooci to do that same thing to the go-go bar option and for girls who work in go-go bars but, thank god, apparently have not heard of Smooci yet?You have some valid points here Tooms and as a user of smooci and the others, I still think they can coexist in a perfect world. For example, one of my regulars just went on smooci. She charges me 3000 and I get a true GFE in the sense that you and I think of. However, she charges 5000 on smooci. A few weeks ago, she showed up at a punter's condo who booked her on smooci and the guy was high as a kite. She got scared and left. So not being able to meet the customer in real before the lady agrees to go with the punter can be a bad thing. She wasted the taxi money to travel near the airport from Nana and back.
My point is this. Smooci is just another way for the ladies to find clients. There is no sweet deal they make with smooci and it comes with different risks. The reason you have to pay upfront is a simple one. The lady has never met you before. What if she met you in a bar or go go, she can decide about you and see how you act. Then she may not be so serious about you paying upfront. You and her have built a rapport already. With smooci it is wam bam thank you mam so the customer should pay upfront.
Think of smooci as just an added option but believe you and me, the ladies are not rolling in cash and getting hundreds of customers from smooci. I've heard it first hand. The risk they take by meeting a client they've never even talked to before warrants the extra cost in my opinion. The freelancers have just added smooci to their list of ways to find customers. These girls still troll TF, we chat and the other places. They still go to Insanity, they still work in a Go Go.
To recap, we sure as hell don't want smooci involved with the Go Go bars but that wouldn't make any sense to have the ladies going in and out of the bar to meet their customers. The whole go go bar business model would go up in flames. LD-Bar fine-Fee for sex. Two separate things that should be kept that way.
You have some valid points here Tooms and as a user of smooci and the others, I still think they can coexist in a perfect world. For example, one of my regulars just went on smooci. She charges me 3000 and I get a true GFE in the sense that you and I think of. However, she charges 5000 on smooci. A few weeks ago, she showed up at a punter's condo who booked her on smooci and the guy was high as a kite. She got scared and left. So not being able to meet the customer in real before the lady agrees to go with the punter can be a bad thing. She wasted the taxi money to travel near the airport from Nana and back.
My point is this. Smooci is just another way for the ladies to find clients. There is no sweet deal they make with smooci and it comes with different risks. The reason you have to pay upfront is a simple one. The lady has never met you before. What if she met you in a bar or go go, she can decide about you and see how you act. Then she may not be so serious about you paying upfront. You and her have built a rapport already. With smooci it is wam bam thank you mam so the customer should pay upfront.
Think of smooci as just an added option but believe you and me, the ladies are not rolling in cash and getting hundreds of customers from smooci. I've heard it first hand. The risk they take by meeting a client they've never even talked to before warrants the extra cost in my opinion. The freelancers have just added smooci to their list of ways to find customers. These girls still troll TF, we chat and the other places. They still go to Insanity, they still work in a Go Go.
To recap, we sure as hell don't want smooci involved with the Go Go bars but that wouldn't make any sense to have the ladies going in and out of the bar to meet their customers. The whole go go bar business model would go up in flames. LD-Bar fine-Fee for sex. Two separate things that should be kept that way.Yes, Bkkdog, I can certainly see your point. But, in the example you gave, the extra 2000 baht more she gets from her Smooci customers than she happily accepts from guys she already knew before or meets elsewhere ought to be plenty of "insurance" compensation against the occasional screw up that might cause her to waste as much as taxi money, no? Why pile on with the 1,000-2,000 baht Cancellation Fee and the Pay Upfont In Full business? Sure, the customer no doubt has more money in the bank than the girl does. That is bound to be true in every P4P encounter. But he is betting quite a bit more money than taxi fare to find out what she really looks like when that hotel room door swings open and what she actually will or won't do on the bed after he has Paid Upfront in Full within 10 minutes of seeing her for the first time.
It will be interesting to see if Smooci's projected Chat Feature solves some of these issues. If the girl you knew had been able to chat with the guy right before she left for the appointment, his high as a kite condition might have revealed itself. Video chatting would be better for something like that as well as helping to reveal a whole slew of other conditions the girl might want to avoid. However, in order for a Chat Feature to be truly useful, each side needs to know their conversation and whatever is agreed upon that is off the menu is and will remain confidential between the two of them and not shared with a third party whose monitoring of it will undoubtedly influence and change the outcome of the chat. But something tells me that is not how Smooci will set it up.
May I ask does the chats stay in the smooci site or do they get pushed to your email account?
Does the chat get answered by the girl or the agency?
Does the chat get answered by the girl or the agency?Our chat feature has now been launched. We will be doing some updates over the coming weeks to tweak it, one of those will include notification settings for clients and companions. At the moment the client is sent an email notification 5 minutes after recieving a chat message (if that message has not already been opened).
Agencies have the option to allow the chat messages to go direct to the companion or to the agency. I suspect most will set messages to come direct to the agency.
We have built our own chat system rather than use a plug in, so while it may take a bit of time to iron out any bugs and errors, in the long run this will allow us to customize and develop the feature to fit the demands of the clients and companions.
Our chat feature has now been launched. We will be doing some updates over the coming weeks to tweak it, one of those will include notification settings for clients and companions. At the moment the client is sent an email notification 5 minutes after recieving a chat message (if that message has not already been opened).
Agencies have the option to allow the chat messages to go direct to the companion or to the agency. I suspect most will set messages to come direct to the agency.
We have built our own chat system rather than use a plug in, so while it may take a bit of time to iron out any bugs and errors, in the long run this will allow us to customize and develop the feature to fit the demands of the clients and companions.When you are coming out with mobile app for customers?
Bhaskar.
When you are coming out with mobile app for customers?
Bhaskar.This is something we would like to do before the end of next year, hopfully by August.
We have quite a lot of work ahead of us which we would like to complete before getting into the client app. Theis include developing the chat feature further and adding in the ability for companions and client to place offers, add in further safety features, and improve the photo voting and verifying system.
Our chat feature has now been launched. We will be doing some updates over the coming weeks to tweak it, one of those will include notification settings for clients and companions. At the moment the client is sent an email notification 5 minutes after recieving a chat message (if that message has not already been opened).
Agencies have the option to allow the chat messages to go direct to the companion or to the agency. I suspect most will set messages to come direct to the agency.
We have built our own chat system rather than use a plug in, so while it may take a bit of time to iron out any bugs and errors, in the long run this will allow us to customize and develop the feature to fit the demands of the clients and companions.If I am reading this correctly an email sent informing the escort or the client that a message it's waiting to be read when you log into smooci. Is that correct? The message isn't sent via email to my email address?
I tried smooci on my recent trip. I found out about it from the forum. Had fun checking out the ladies before I got there, imagining what it would be like. Even picked a couple, but when I tried for them they weren't there.
Since this forum seems to have become a user, not advertiser, forum, my feedback. I don't give my credit card numbers to sites often because what am I going to do if you start abusing it? That means the smooci extras, especially reviews, are hidden. I think you lose $ with that policy. Make the reviews visible, charge a bit more for each reservation. As a similar situation, I buy things on Amazon often only because I can see the reviews and that there are usually enough of them that I can be pretty sure they are real. Also, saying you will only tell us if the pics are real if we pay is another deterrent. Also, you should tell the ladies that no pic of their bare waste and tummy implies that they are fat (good examples Adiya vs Fo). In the end, it was easier to go to a parlor for a girl well-reviewed by ISG. Best wishes.
If I am reading this correctly an email sent informing the escort or the client that a message it's waiting to be read when you log into smooci. Is that correct? The message isn't sent via email to my email address?Yes, if you are sent a message and haven't read it within the first 5 minutes you will be sent an email notification. We will be looking to bring in adjustable notification settings on the next update.
I tried smooci on my recent trip. I found out about it from the forum. Had fun checking out the ladies before I got there, imagining what it would be like. Even picked a couple, but when I tried for them they weren't there.
Since this forum seems to have become a user, not advertiser, forum, my feedback. I don't give my credit card numbers to sites often because what am I going to do if you start abusing it? That means the smooci extras, especially reviews, are hidden. I think you lose $ with that policy. Make the reviews visible, charge a bit more for each reservation. As a similar situation, I buy things on Amazon often only because I can see the reviews and that there are usually enough of them that I can be pretty sure they are real. Also, saying you will only tell us if the pics are real if we pay is another deterrent. Also, you should tell the ladies that no pic of their bare waste and tummy implies that they are fat (good examples Adiya vs Fo). In the end, it was easier to go to a parlor for a girl well-reviewed by ISG. Best wishes.Thanks for the feedback.
Our motivation is to bring in a much verification as we can, while building trust and healthy competition via a system which rewards those who perform best rather than who pays the most. We believe that charging a small premium fee for the additional services does that best, meaning we are primarily motivated by the quality of platform than by the number of bookings. It also means we allow escorts / agencies to keep the money they earn and encourage them to charge competitively (not having to factor in any extra fees for their service).
If a client prefer to be a standard user they can browse our live listing, see verified ratings, place live booking requests, and get updates informing them when the companion accepts their booking (within 10 minutes), when the companion is on her way, and when she arrives, also allowing them to rate the companion after. For this service their is no fee and we don't take any cut of the fee they pay the escort.
Premium clients get valuable extras for a fee which is inline with the average dating site. They get to read verified reveiws, chat with escorts before placing a booking, see if clients have verified a picture, and see verified ages.
While standard users can't see which pictures the community have deemed accurate, any picture which are deemed highly inaccurate are removed for everything, so standard users still benefit from this.
While you weren't able to see the companions you wanted too (being that they were offline) as a premium user you are able to set a notification for when they next come online, send them a message, and place bookings up to 24 hours in advance.
We feel this is currently the next way to go, with most clients finding the features goood value, and standard users still being able to use the site and taking advantage of the lower rates.
You have some valid points here Tooms and as a user of smooci and the others, I still think they can coexist in a perfect world. For example, one of my regulars just went on smooci. She charges me 3000 and I get a true GFE in the sense that you and I think of. However, she charges 5000 on smooci. A few weeks ago, she showed up at a punter's condo who booked her on smooci and the guy was high as a kite. She got scared and left. So not being able to meet the customer in real before the lady agrees to go with the punter can be a bad thing. She wasted the taxi money to travel near the airport from Nana and back.
My point is this. Smooci is just another way for the ladies to find clients. There is no sweet deal they make with smooci and it comes with different risks. The reason you have to pay upfront is a simple one. The lady has never met you before. What if she met you in a bar or go go, she can decide about you and see how you act. Then she may not be so serious about you paying upfront. You and her have built a rapport already. With smooci it is wam bam thank you mam so the customer should pay upfront..Hi,
If I would have to pay before a girl comes to me you get in the same situation as in China. Many girls ask money upfront. You send it through wechat pay. Next they never show up and blcok you from interacting with them. I would never even consider paying upfront that way. I already find it risky paying a girl as she enters me room. Had a girl in China do a runner while I was in the shower.
I have mongered since 1998 on all continents. Only ever had problems if I had to pay upfront or with China girls. So if I had to pay upfront Smooci would be off my list. Just like I would never take a girl if I got a feeling they were a PRC girl. They look great, but they cause nothing but problems.
Hi,
If I would have to pay before a girl comes to me you get in the same situation as in China. Many girls ask money upfront. You send it through wechat pay. Next they never show up and blcok you from interacting with them. I would never even consider paying upfront that way. I already find it risky paying a girl as she enters me room. Had a girl in China do a runner while I was in the shower.
I have mongered since 1998 on all continents. Only ever had problems if I had to pay upfront or with China girls. So if I had to pay upfront Smooci would be off my list. Just like I would never take a girl if I got a feeling they were a PRC girl. They look great, but they cause nothing but problems.This isn't the case.
Payments for bookings are strictly between the escort and the client and are arranged when you meet in person. Some girls may request the payment once the session starts and some may request it after the session has finished, but you should never be asked to send money before you've met on Smooci.
I used Smooci for the first time in BKK. First girl I booked was Veronica, a slim stunner advertised as 23 (though she told me otherwise). The pictures were pretty accurate in her case. She actually arrived 10 minutes earlier which I liked. She does A-Levels and is quite friendly.
Next day I booked Kung, she was nothing like her pic. But her service was really good esp the massage she gave after the BBBJ + CIM was really soothing.
IMHO Smooci is actually a good option for laze asses like me. I will get a premium subscription soon.
I was in Bangkok earlier this month, and I was impressed by the Smooci setup. I paid for the 3-day premium subscription, which is a great idea, so I could read the reviews. I picked out "Weeny" (yea, I know) based on the pictures, reviews, and her location (not too far away from my hotel). She was with an agency; don't recall which one. Anyway, I tracked her arrival and she showed up on time. She looked like her pictures and provided a very satisfying experience. I had trouble coming but she didn't give up until I had strong release. A fun two hours. Her rate was 3,750 but I gave her 4,000 and she was happy.
Met Bobby recently, and damn she was good.
https://smooci.com/escorts/OYNeG#model.
I did a booking of 8 hours, 3 shots, so there's so much to write but to keep it brief, I'll just write few pointers.
- came exactly on time, already liked her.
- looked exactly like her pics even though they are not verified.
- Age on site says 27 but she said 29.
- has a tatoo.
- no kissing in case any of you're into that but I don't think we should kiss them anyways.
- she asked me take a bath first and do brush LOL. Jokes apart I liked the fact she's hygenic.
- She is good in all positions and in start she might be little reluctant but after little while she will be great.
- Don't expect too much of GFE.
All in all, she's good but I might not repeat her.
Met Bobby recently, and damn she was good.
https://smooci.com/escorts/OYNeG#model.
I did a booking of 8 hours, 3 shots, so there's so much to write but to keep it brief, I'll just write few pointers.
- came exactly on time, already liked her.
- looked exactly like her pics even though they are not verified.
- Age on site says 27 but she said 29.
- has a tatoo.
- no kissing in case any of you're into that but I don't think we should kiss them anyways.
- she asked me take a bath first and do brush LOL. Jokes apart I liked the fact she's hygenic.
- She is good in all positions and in start she might be little reluctant but after little while she will be great.
- Don't expect too much of GFE.
All in all, she's good but I might not repeat her.How good could she have been with no kissing? Her profile says DFK, I can't imagine spending 8 hours with this lady.
How good could she have been with no kissing? Her profile says DFK, I can't imagine spending 8 hours with this lady.I am really surprised, I can never have a satisfactory experience without a DFK.
Any suggestions on Smooci who do an awesome DFK please.
Planning to try atleast 3 of the below.
1. Poppy.
2. Grace.
3. JC.
4. Moon (Not Mon).
5. Vicky.
Any reviews guys really appreciate it.
Thanks.
I am really surprised, I can never have a satisfactory experience without a DFK.
Any suggestions on Smooci who do an awesome DFK please.
Planning to try atleast 3 of the below.
1. Poppy.
2. Grace.
3. JC.
4. Moon (Not Mon).
5. Vicky.
Any reviews guys really appreciate it.
Thanks.If you have a premium account, you confirm with the girl about her services. That will remove the room for unnecessary surprises.
Though I use smooci without premium, haven't really find the need to subscribe for premium.
PassinThrough
01-30-19, 18:29
Are there any other options to pay for a premium account with Smooci. I do not like using credit cards and the pre-paid credit cards do not work. What I would prefer is a way to pay cash. Maybe be able to give the escort some extra cash to pay for the Smooci fee. Any suggestions for a person only willing to use cash? Thanks.
PIT.
Are there any other options to pay for a premium account with Smooci. I do not like using credit cards and the pre-paid credit cards do not work. What I would prefer is a way to pay cash. Maybe be able to give the escort some extra cash to pay for the Smooci fee. Any suggestions for a person only willing to use cash? Thanks.
PIT.Strange. I used my MC prepay last time.
Are there any other options to pay for a premium account with Smooci. I do not like using credit cards and the pre-paid credit cards do not work. What I would prefer is a way to pay cash. Maybe be able to give the escort some extra cash to pay for the Smooci fee. Any suggestions for a person only willing to use cash? Thanks.
PIT.We do see a lot of sucessful payments via virtual cards. The 3 we see the most are Neteller website (virtual MasterCard), Revolut app (virtual visa), and PayMaya app. PayMaya is Philppines only, Revolut is European citizens only and Neteller seems to be global.
Aside from that we can accept direct payments via BitCoin. You can create a Coinbase account on their app, purchase bitcoin, and then contact us to arrange a manual payment.
PassinThrough
01-31-19, 17:56
We do see a lot of sucessful payments via virtual cards. The 3 we see the most are Neteller website (virtual MasterCard), Revolut app (virtual visa), and PayMaya app. PayMaya is Philppines only, Revolut is European citizens only and Neteller seems to be global.
Aside from that we can accept direct payments via BitCoin. You can create a Coinbase account on their app, purchase bitcoin, and then contact us to arrange a manual payment.I still think having the ability to pay the escort for an account in cash would be a big benefit. The person can make a few extra dollars and you don't need to jump through hoops or signup for any new accounts to get it.
PIT.
If you have a premium account, you confirm with the girl about her services. That will remove the room for unnecessary surprises.
Though I use smooci without premium, haven't really find the need to subscribe for premium.Ty, will try premium out and post the reviews here.
Over all how were your experiences with Smooci, I am quite sure the pictures are quite old or photoshopped. I just hope the service is good and not very restrictive like the one posted on Bobby.
Ty, will try premium out and post the reviews here.
Over all how were your experiences with Smooci, I am quite sure the pictures are quite old or photoshopped. I just hope the service is good and not very restrictive like the one posted on Bobby.Honestly it all depends on your taste. I have tried Smooci 3-4 times by now, I usually use it for weekends when I am being lazy.
Overall my experience has been quite good so far, even without premium, and never I have met the girl and thought her pics were too old or photoshoped. Yes for age you can add 2-5 years from what ks mentioned on site.
P.S.: Avoid less pricey independents.
Greetings.
I have a problem. I have a European Mobile number and it does not work well in Bangkok, I am being asked to enter my mobile number for premium member sign up.
1. Will this be the mobile number to which I will be receiving the messages / updates of my date via Smooci?
2. Is there a possibility to change the mobile numbers once I arrive in Bangkok?
3. Will the girls be able to see my phone number?
Add to filters shaved or un shaven?
I still think having the ability to pay the escort for an account in cash would be a big benefit. The person can make a few extra dollars and you don't need to jump through hoops or signup for any new accounts to get it.
PIT.The escorts are also client, advertising on our platform.
Greetings.
I have a problem. I have a European Mobile number and it does not work well in Bangkok, I am being asked to enter my mobile number for premium member sign up.
1. Will this be the mobile number to which I will be receiving the messages / updates of my date via Smooci?
2. Is there a possibility to change the mobile numbers once I arrive in Bangkok?
3. Will the girls be able to see my phone number?Hi.
We don't lock accounts to mobile numbers, so the number you use when creating a premium account doesn't need to be the same number you add on your booking request. You can change your number any time your place a booking request, you just need to make sure to first login on the site using your email address and password.
Once a booking is confirmed the companion will get the phone number you have put on that booking request. So if you use an European number for sign up for premium, and then put a local Thai number on the bookinb requets, the companion will only get the local Thai number.
Pointy Stick
02-03-19, 04:37
The escorts are also client, advertising on our platform.How is the take up in Berlin? I can see only two girls listed on it.
How is the take up in Berlin? I can see only two girls listed on it.We soft launched Berlin at the start of the year but haven't been able to pushed it yet. We need to make some tweaks to the services and launch the iOS app for companions.
We will be attempting to do an official launch in London on 14th of this month (Feb), and then we will switch our focus to pushing Berlin after that (around the end of the month).
We hope to follow these up with more aggressive launches in Barcelona, Amsterdam, and Australia (Melbourne and Sydney) over the following 4 months.
Venus: https://smooci.com/escorts/O2JdO.
So far I've booked 5 girls at smooci and everytime it has been great. So obviously this great journey has to end somewhere, and that somewhere was Venus.
Venus was my worst smooci experience and 3rd worst overall experience in life.
Booked her for 2 hours (thank god, only 2 hours), she came on time and damn, she was not looking like her pics. She has braces first of all WTF. Anyways, asked her for shower after paying. So far so good.
Then once we were on bed, I just blinked and she put lots of oil on my dick, god knows why? Gave a HJ and then put on a condom. Did some wot, after 2 miuntes said it's hurting so started doggy. Within one minute asked to stop, said hurting, "too big", really? Anyways if its hurting then its hurting, no questions asked. Started doing in mis, came in 5 minutes. This all in 20 minutes. It was not as bad I thought in starting it would be.
But then after cleaning up, I asked for massage, and what she did was not massage for sure. It was like somebody was just touching you from far away, and with one hand. Now before you ask, why with one hand, read the title, because she was scratching LOL. She was scratching her thigh, fist, tummy and what not part of anatomy. Plus when I turned to see her face, the expression was like she is in hell and doing worst job in the world. Well, noone forced her to do it. After a while I started with second round, she said "go take a shower first". I was like we did in start, but she wanted me take another shower after each round. I don't why but I just agreed and came after shower. Obviously after shower my dick was in smallest version, and she started to jerk it. I just stopped her hand and said just wait for a minute. I don't know why she was in so hurry. Somehow I get it to grow big, you can say past good memories. Informed her and she grabbed it and started giving handjob. One hand jerking and you guessed it, second hand scratching herself. Plus, her face expression was priceless. Within one minute my dick went to sleep. She did her half-hearted HJ, I told her to massage my balls lightly, maybe my dick reacts well to it. She did as I said for 30 seconds, and then started doing it with a pace which will embarrass Usain Bolt. Plus her nails were hitting my balls. Yes, her nails on my balls, not sure if she knows, but it fuckin hurts. Just asked her to stop.
After 2 minutes, checked the time, it was only one hour and one more left. But I asked her, if she wanted to left she can. She said yes. I don't I felt relieved. Once she was ready to go, she committed her biggest sin, asked money for taxi. I clearly said, "no taxy money for smooci". She made a shitty face and left but I like I cared then.
Usually I always drop girls to the taxi or my condo's gate. But this time, nope, just dropped her till lift and only because it requires key card. That explains how annoyed I was with the experience.
This kind of behaviour and attitude I've seen from freelancers and not agency girls. This was just not worth what I spent.
P.S.: That's why I haven't taken smooci premium yet, it's still hit-and-miss. At gogos, you know what you're getting, at smooci pics and info doesn't tell the real story always.
PoohKeyLover
02-17-19, 03:16
Venus: https://smooci.com/escorts/O2JdO.
So far I've booked 5 girls at smooci and everytime it has been great. So obviously this great journey has to end somewhere, and that somewhere was Venus.
Venus was my worst smooci experience and 3rd worst overall experience in life.
Booked her for 2 hours (thank god, only 2 hours), she came on time and damn, she was not looking like her pics. She has braces first of all WTF. Anyways, asked her for shower after paying. So far so good.
Then once we were on bed, I just blinked and she put lots of oil on my dick, god knows why? Gave a HJ and then put on a condom. Did some wot, after 2 miuntes said it's hurting so started doggy. Within one minute asked to stop, said hurting, "too big", really? Anyways if its hurting then its hurting, no questions asked. Started doing in mis, came in 5 minutes. This all in 20 minutes. It was not as bad I thought in starting it would be..Who were among your best?
Crocodilexp
02-17-19, 07:37
She was scratching her thigh, fist, tummy and what not part of anatomy. Obsessive scratching can be a symptom of drug abuse, for instance heroin users often scratch. Any other telltale signs? Did you leave an appropriate review on Smooci?
Obsessive scratching can be a symptom of drug abuse, for instance heroin users often scratch. Any other telltale signs? Did you leave an appropriate review on Smooci?Yes, I did add the review. Usually I always see reviews before booking, I don't why this time I forget to view reviews because their were reviews telling almost exact same behavior. If I would have seen those before, I have never booked her in first place. But anyways, bad experience always comes with learnings.
On drug abuse, don't know much about the subject, but yeah it could be the case.
Venus was my worst smooci experience and 3rd worst overall experience in life.
Booked her for 2 hours (thank god, only 2 hours), she came on time and damn, she was not looking like her pics. She has braces first of all WTF. Anyways, asked her for shower after paying. So far so good.There was already a negative review of that girl on this forum (maybe in the Bangkok Escort Thread) a few month ago.
It was saying that she is not service oriented and she didn't care to kill the mood of her customer by scrupulously checking the condom right before the act (but the OP was saying that she looked OK). She was already on my blacklist from reading that report.
Was it your decision to pay her before the act or did she ask the payment upfront? How about the last 5 girls you met from Smooci, did you pay them upfront as well?
In fact I've met a few girls through Smooci and never been asked to pay upfront and never had any problem with their attitude. For me the problem was mostly that some of them didn't look as good as their pics.
AstoraDick
02-17-19, 18:57
Is there any plan to launch the in-call in Bangkok?
Was it your decision to pay her before the act or did she ask the payment upfront? How about the last 5 girls you met from Smooci, did you pay them upfront as well?
In fact I've met a few girls through Smooci and never been asked to pay upfront and never had any problem with their attitude. For me the problem was mostly that some of them didn't look as good as their pics.Previous times, I think I paid couple of times before and couple of times after the act. In case of Venus, she asked before the shower. Now, I remember when I met bobby from smooci and I asked to pay after, she said smooci rules that you pay in first 10 minutes.
Also, I don't think, in case of Venus, paying later would have made any difference. They know that even if they are already paid, they are still going to get reveiwed which will affect their future prospects.
JimmyTheLock
02-18-19, 03:49
Are the prices quoted on Smooci inclusive of all services quoted for a girl, or are there other charges which aren't listed? E. G. For girls which list A-level or Couples, can we expect extra charges? If so, is there any way to clarify in advance?
Pointy Stick
02-18-19, 12:12
Is there any plan to launch the in-call in Bangkok?Is there really a market for this? Lower Suk has so many incall places already its hard to avoid them. I really see the value in the outcall option because it suits lazy mongers sitting in their hotel rooms who don't want to pay a barfine or spend hours watching bored women gyrate on stage drinking over-priced alcohol. Its a pity more foreign independents don't use it such as the notorious Claire Johnson.
PassinThrough
02-18-19, 16:41
Are the prices quoted on Smooci inclusive of all services quoted for a girl, or are there other charges which aren't listed? E. G. For girls which list A-level or Couples, can we expect extra charges? If so, is there any way to clarify in advance?My experience is you pat only the quoted price and if you are happy a tip at the end. The tip is not required but is appreciated. That said I have newer gotten a girl for a-level or couples but you can easily confirm the price when making the booking.
Is there any plan to launch the in-call in Bangkok?Hi, we decided against incalls in Bangkok for now. The vast majority of our current companions and client base ain Bangkok are supply / look for outcall only, and there is alrerady a very good soapie / message scene in Bangkok for incalls.
Are the prices quoted on Smooci inclusive of all services quoted for a girl, or are there other charges which aren't listed? E. G. For girls which list A-level or Couples, can we expect extra charges? If so, is there any way to clarify in advance?Hi, the prices should all be very clear on t he booking confirmation page, with no hidden charges. We currently only allow companions to offer additional extra costs ofr A level and couples services (both given as an optional add on).
AstoraDick
03-12-19, 16:34
I just signed up for premium membership and here are my feedback.
1. At the offline escorts screen, I was not able to sort the escorts by rate / price / distance. Instead, you're automatically sorted by 'default' option even when selecting other options. But, the sorting works just fine for online escorts.
Browser used is Google Chrome Version 72.0. 3626.121 on Windows 10.
2. I started using chat option and I think there is no procedure for escorts to force them to reply. At least to say no or yes and I noticed this despite the escort being online in couple of hours. I believe there is an area of improvement here that needs to implement a mechanism to ensure the escorts or their agency answer when messaged / inquired similar to when the escort receives a booking but fails to respond within specific time frame. Although, I only tried to chat with independents and this might be different with agencies.
3. I also found it difficult to trace my conversation logs as I am forced to find the escort I sent to and from there I can return back to the conversion. This deficiency might probably be a root cause to escorts / agencies inability to answer back.
And other than my feedback, I wonder if escorts have option to make themselves available for premium members only? 'cause I started seeing more escorts online than before.
I just signed up for premium membership and here are my feedback.
1. At the offline escorts screen, I was not able to sort the escorts by rate / price / distance. Instead, you're automatically sorted by 'default' option even when selecting other options. But, the sorting works just fine for online escorts.
Browser used is Google Chrome Version 72.0. 3626.121 on Windows 10.
2. I started using chat option and I think there is no procedure for escorts to force them to reply. At least to say no or yes and I noticed this despite the escort being online in couple of hours. I believe there is an area of improvement here that needs to implement a mechanism to ensure the escorts or their agency answer when messaged / inquired similar to when the escort receives a booking but fails to respond within specific time frame. Although, I only tried to chat with independents and this might be different with agencies.
3. I also found it difficult to trace my conversation logs as I am forced to find the escort I sent to and from there I can return back to the conversion. This deficiency might probably be a root cause to escorts / agencies inability to answer back.
And other than my feedback, I wonder if escorts have option to make themselves available for premium members only? 'cause I started seeing more escorts online than before.Thank you for the feedback. I will pass these notes on to the team. We are currently working on tweaks to update the chat system and your points are all very valid.
Rather than using a chat plug in we built our own chat system, while a chat plug in may be more developed and user friendly from the get go, having our own chat system allows to mould and tweak the chat around the needs of our users. Admitedly the chat is still quite basic in it's first phace, but over the coming months we will look to introduce more user friendly chat management, and more chat tools and settings, allowing you to quickly find your messages, and delete any unwanted chats.
Premium members get to see the same escorts online as non-premium members.
I just signed up for premium membership and here are my feedback.
3. I also found it difficult to trace my conversation logs as I am forced to find the escort I sent to and from there I can return back to the conversion. This deficiency might probably be a root cause to escorts / agencies inability to answer back.
I forgot to respond to this.
When you are logged into your Smooci account you will see a small icon (a bell with a number by it). It shoull be on the bottom right of the screen with the number showing you how many unread messaged you have.
Clicking this will take you to all your chats. You can also go to www.smooci.com/chats.
All your chats will be displayed in order of last active.
I got the premium, and wasn't disappointed. Booked Methys based on reviews. She was great. Did everything she advertised. Showed up on time, stayed the amount I asked. Was very attentive. Well worth it. She's about 30, has a great body. Happy hunting.
Messaged Vilisa after reading her reviews. She came to my condo on Soi 13 within one hour of messaging her. She's hot, great attitude. Looks just like her pictures but her fakes are a bit hard. Other than that, it was great. DFK, BBJ, DATY, A-level, COF (all uncovered). Came right in her eye. She took A-level like a champ. She cleaned up and massaged me, then we went for round 2. I let her stay longer, we cuddled for a bit, then Road 3. All in all she stayed 3 hours. Paid 4,500 baht. Happy hunting.
Messaged Vilisa after reading her reviews. She came to my condo on Soi 13 within one hour of messaging her. She's hot, great attitude. Looks just like her pictures but her fakes are a bit hard. Other than that, it was great. DFK, BBJ, DATY, A-level, COF (all uncovered). Came right in her eye. She took A-level like a champ. She cleaned up and massaged me, then we went for round 2. I let her stay longer, we cuddled for a bit, then Road 3. All in all she stayed 3 hours. Paid 4,500 baht. Happy hunting.Oh then I think I will avoid this girl Vilisa at all costs.
Franciscass
03-31-19, 10:10
To Smooci.
Would I be correct in assuming that some escorts in high demand are mostly contacted and then booked through the offline feature available only to paid up subscribers.
Hello,
I've just joined Smooci so I could read the reviews. I have several observations that bother me:
1. Most girls for agencies have 20+ reviews. Most private girls have none.
2. In most cases where girls have 20+ reviews, 90-95% of them are perfect 5 star ratings with variations of the same absolutely amazing, not-to-be-missed, perfect reviews. Some even have the same sentences just swapped around. The other 5-10% of reviews are often only rating the girl at 1 or 2 stars. Some of these comments are very helpful in explaining the girl's attitude or lateness, or appearance.
3. Checking different girls from the same agency reveals what appear to be cut-and-paste reviews. On a number of occasions I found the same reviews word-for-word but on different girls. Make of that what you will.
4. Reviews are anonymous. You don't get any identifying information on the reviewer at all. On ISG you can at least see other comments by a particular user and form your own opinion.
I think the review section is not very helpful at all. It needs work. It should be more like ebay. Perhaps separate ratings for punctuality, appearance, performance and price. The 4 P's. More needs to be done to ensure agencies aren't reviewing their own girls.
I thought this thread would be the place in ISG to review Smooci girls, but there don't seem to be many here. Is there another thread that covers reviews of girls advertising on Smooci?
Cheers.
TT.
To Smooci.
Would I be correct in assuming that some escorts in high demand are mostly contacted and then booked through the offline feature available only to paid up subscribers.A premium client can't book an offline model, but they can send them a chat message and potentially contact exchange details (we don't stop clients / companions from exchanging contact details), and they can set a notification and get alerted as soon as an escort becomes available. It's certainly and advantage but I would probably regard the top bracket girls as anyone with a 4. 7 and above after 10 bookings. Searching now for Bangkok I see 10+ of those online and available to book.
Hello,
I've just joined Smooci so I could read the reviews. I have several observations that bother me:
1. Most girls for agencies have 20+ reviews. Most private girls have none.
2. In most cases where girls have 20+ reviews, 90-95% of them are perfect 5 star ratings with variations of the same absolutely amazing, not-to-be-missed, perfect reviews. Some even have the same sentences just swapped around. The other 5-10% of reviews are often only rating the girl at 1 or 2 stars. Some of these comments are very helpful in explaining the girl's attitude or lateness, or appearance.
3. Checking different girls from the same agency reveals what appear to be cut-and-paste reviews. On a number of occasions I found the same reviews word-for-word but on different girls. Make of that what you will.
4. Reviews are anonymous. You don't get any identifying information on the reviewer at all. On ISG you can at least see other comments by a particular user and form your own opinion.
I think the review section is not very helpful at all. It needs work. It should be more like ebay. Perhaps separate ratings for punctuality, appearance, performance and price. The 4 P's. More needs to be done to ensure agencies aren't reviewing their own girls.
I thought this thread would be the place in ISG to review Smooci girls, but there don't seem to be many here. Is there another thread that covers reviews of girls advertising on Smooci?
Cheers.
TT.If you could send us examples of what you think are copy and paste reveiws we can certainly look into it. We don't have anything which detects or flags similarly worded reviews, but we have quite a tight algorythm which uses the app GPS and client booking history to determine whether a booking is genuine and happened, and while it's not a perfect system, I'd back it that at least 90+% of reveiws are correctly verified as being real.
While it could be possible for an escort to fake the occassional review, it's not very practical and if caught we would ban them. We are confident this is very rarely happening and certainly not happening on the scale of a whole agency. That also can't stop them from having bad reviews and we very very rarely delete reviews, only in cases where the client requested to retract a review or where the review was abusive or gave out personal details.
It's 3 am in Bangkok so not the best time to search, but I just did a quick search and there are 15 independents online, and most of them have at least 10 reviews, 6 of them have more than 30, and none of them have 0 reviews.
If you regarding independents as an agency it would actually rank as number 2 in Bangkok. The average rating for an independent in Bangkok is just under 4. 7, with only 1 agency having an average rating above this, most having an average of 4. 5 and with 4 agencies having an average of 4. 4 or lower.
That points you are making are not correct.
But I do agree that the review system needs to be improved and we are always looking to tweak things and build on the feedback we get. I would say the reviews are already relevant and very useful to a regular user, especially in Bangkok and Manila (and perhaps Hong Kong) where we have a lot of ratings and reviews, but we will aim to make the reviews more dynamic, ideally giving a better overview of a companions plus and negative points (ala Booking.com) and improve the photo voting and photo verification system.
3. Checking different girls from the same agency reveals what appear to be cut-and-paste reviews. On a number of occasions I found the same reviews word-for-word but on different girls. Make of that what you will.TT.Thanks for the information.
I'm pretty sure that 60 or 70 % of the agencies that appears in Smooci Bangkok are managed by the same couple of persons so you might also check with girls from different agencies. I'm not confirming what you're saying as I don't have the premium membership.
I thought this thread would be the place in ISG to review Smooci girls, but there don't seem to be many here. Is there another thread that covers reviews of girls advertising on Smooci?
Cheers.
TT.You can also read some reviews of Smooci's girls in the Bangkok Escorts Thread. Not many ISG members are willing to share their experience with these girls but you can still find a few of them if you scroll back in the Bangkok Escorts thread. Recently, there have also been a few of them reviewed by new members in the Bangkok Thread.
Franciscass
04-03-19, 02:51
A premium client can't book an offline model, but they can send them a chat message and potentially contact exchange details (we don't stop clients / companions from exchanging contact details), and they can set a notification and get alerted as soon as an escort becomes available. It's certainly and advantage but I would probably regard the top bracket girls as anyone with a 4. 7 and above after 10 bookings. Searching now for Bangkok I see 10+ of those online and available to book.Thanks for reply. I get it. If for some reason she doesn't want to be online being able to contact her directly offline may get you a meet.
I thought this thread would be the place in ISG to review Smooci girls, but there don't seem to be many here. Is there another thread that covers reviews of girls advertising on Smooci?
In what way makes you think that here in ISG is a thread to review girls on Smooci? This is their personal Thread which is Smooci's.
Review of escort girls you can go to the other thread which I don't need to tell you.
As some would know, Smocci WGs may rate us in the same manner as we may rate them. I had intercourse with one of them (Soda) and she thought -oddly- that our relationship might go beyond commercial purposes. She was irritated when I contacted her after several months of silence through Line. I then try to book her on smocci as she was new on this platform but she asked me to cancel the booking, which I did. When I tried to book another WG shortly after, after having accepted she cancelled the booking a few minutes after. That was puzzling. I used the Smocci contact number to chat with my replacement WG and she told me she cancelled because of my poor rating (one star with a nice turd emoticon) from the previous WG ('you bad man' There was no inappropriate behaviour from me at any time. I did not overly care about my rating except if it deters others -understandably- from doing business with me. After some chatting, I convinced her for our mutual benefit. To sum it up, I was surprised to see 'grudge ratings' from one Smocci WG not acting very professionally. I suppose this is not that frequent but forewarned is forearmed.
As some would know, Smocci WGs may rate us in the same manner as we may rate them. I had intercourse with one of them (Soda) and she thought -oddly- that our relationship might go beyond commercial purposes. She was irritated when I contacted her after several months of silence through Line. I then try to book her on smocci as she was new on this platform but she asked me to cancel the booking, which I did. When I tried to book another WG shortly after, after having accepted she cancelled the booking a few minutes after. That was puzzling. I used the Smocci contact number to chat with my replacement WG and she told me she cancelled because of my poor rating (one star with a nice turd emoticon) from the previous WG ('you bad man' There was no inappropriate behaviour from me at any time. I did not overly care about my rating except if it deters others -understandably- from doing business with me. After some chatting, I convinced her for our mutual benefit. To sum it up, I was surprised to see 'grudge ratings' from one Smocci WG not acting very professionally. I suppose this is not that frequent but forewarned is forearmed.The companions get to leave a rating (1-5 star) on the clients, but no comment or anything else is show, so the turd emoticon wouldn't be possible.
Companions can only rate you after a booking is complete. If a booking is cancelled before you meet then it's not possible to leave a rating.
The client rating is only shown after 3 ratings are left and then shown as an average (it's not possible to see individual ratings). So if you have a 1 star rating this means you have had at least 3 bookings and each one of them was a 1 star.
I would say an average rating under 2 might make it difficult to get bookings, but the vast majority of clients have a rating between 4 and 5, and there is probably reason for a companion to be cautious if a client has a rating showing under 2 after 3 bookings.
If you feel something is wrong or you have an unfair rating, please email us and we'll do our best to resolve it fairly. It may be a case of a companion telling you fibs.
The companions get to leave a rating (1-5 star) on the clients, but no comment or anything else is show, so the turd emoticon wouldn't be possible.
Companions can only rate you after a booking is complete. If a booking is cancelled before you meet then it's not possible to leave a rating.
The client rating is only shown after 3 ratings are left and then shown as an average (it's not possible to see individual ratings). So if you have a 1 star rating this means you have had at least 3 bookings and each one of them was a 1 star.
I would say an average rating under 2 might make it difficult to get bookings, but the vast majority of clients have a rating between 4 and 5, and there is probably reason for a companion to be cautious if a client has a rating showing under 2 after 3 bookings.
If you feel something is wrong or you have an unfair rating, please email us and we'll do our best to resolve it fairly. It may be a case of a companion telling you fibs.With the benefit of hindsight, I would agree it was likely that the companion was over the top. Good way to get rid of unwarranted competition, LOL.
Any update on Pattaya launch?
Hi,
Could someone help. I cannot book by mail since my mail address could be read from various computer. I would prefer to book by phone. And di Smocci have a phone number.
So booked a smooci girl in Bangkok recently who said she was reluctant to take my booking cause one of my last bookings gave me a zero star rating.
Was surprised I had a rating cause I am not a premium member and didn't think I stored my details on the site or had a history of my bookings stored anywhere.
However, it seems Smooci collects and connects your bookings via name and or email address (probably email address) keeping a log of all your bookings for rating purposes.
I guess its good they keep track of their customers to give their girls proper info of likely customer, but not sure I like my details being stored on their site.
This main reason I don't go premium cause I don't want them also to have my credit card details and even more info about me.
The girls can be anonymous but the customer have to give out registered names at hotel booking, phone, email and credit card info.
Next time will be using burner email and common name, rather not have a profile on smooci with history.
So booked a smooci girl in Bangkok recently who said she was reluctant to take my booking cause one of my last bookings gave me a zero star rating.
Was surprised I had a rating cause I am not a premium member and didn't think I stored my details on the site or had a history of my bookings stored anywhere.
However, it seems Smooci collects and connects your bookings via name and or email address (probably email address) keeping a log of all your bookings for rating purposes.
I guess its good they keep track of their customers to give their girls proper info of likely customer, but not sure I like my details being stored on their site.
This main reason I don't go premium cause I don't want them also to have my credit card details and even more info about me..So only you can rate others but others cannot rate you? You always right?
"I guess its good they keep track of their customers to give their girls proper info of likely customer, but not sure I like my details being stored on their site".
Others being rated is OK but you never want to be rated by others. Why so special?
"This main reason I don't go premium cause I don't want them also to have my credit card details and even more info about me."
FB has more details and know more about you than your own BBF knows about you. Isn't that more scarier but you still use it anyway.
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