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Good thing those Lleras, FB, and SA chicks will charge less since the exchange rate is falling.Where does that leave the person that is uninterested in paying more?
Yes 100%. If a girl truly feels comfortable with you she will one day simply jump on top.Agreed. Something I have experienced. But still an opinion.
Bringing that specific service up as a topic will usually scare a lot of girls.Another opinion. These girls are getting paid for a service. You should ask for what you want. A girl who runs because I ask for a particular service is a girl I don't want to be with in the first place. The last thing you want is a girl that promises everything and then does not deliver. Get to no quickly. No one ever gets disappointed by positive surprises only negative ones. Keep an abundance mind set. If only one (1) out of eight (8) say yes make sure you ask at least eight.
Young girls new to the game or druggies sws are the only group that will entertain such offers.This statement is written as a fact when the writer clearly knows he is expressing his opinion.
Opinion: An opinion is a judgment, viewpoint, or statement that is not conclusive, rather than facts, which are true statements.
I never think I am better than anyone. Regardless if they spend 40 k or 400 usd on a girl.
.... if you look at the pattern of behavior of some people they like to poke at guys who spend more think that the guys who spend more are fools or idiots.
.... my favorite. The in demand 8's-10's can be had for 200 mil...
Then they talk about how all girls are poor and can't afford nothing meanwhile half these hookers have the most up to date iPhones and spend 1000's a month on make up, nail, etc.
Everyone has different standards in mongering and dating... So let's move on from this nonsense since those fools are nowhere to be found.Agree 100%. If these '9's and 10's' can be had for 200 k either the girl or the guy is completely blind. Perhaps both LOL.
ColombiaLover
06-10-23, 03:28
But a 9 or a 10 by what standard? First, are we only talking about putas? Or also semi-pros? Non-pros?
Second, I at least hope we all agree that when you pay a high price for a so-called 9 or 10, that guarantees virtually nothing, other than to feel good about yourself for paying a lot of money for someone you perceive as a 9 or 10. The amount you pay does not guarantee good service. In fact, some of these model-types thinks their shit doesn't stink and they provide average (or below service) because there is always some guys who is willing to pay for the fantasy. Not saying all 9's and 10's give bad service, but many do.
Finally, what exactly is a 9 or 10? We act as if we all agree. I, for one, don't like the typical girl that many of you all might consider a 9 or 10. I like nice, natural hair. I like a pretty face, particularly one with little or no make-up. I like natural be-cup tits. I like smooth, soft skin with no tatoos (I don't care about a girl who works out so much her stomach looks like a male body-builder). I like a cute ass, but not a fat ass. I prefer spinners. I hate silicone. I hate girls who wear fake Gucci, Prado, Guess, etc. And think they are cool. I hate girls who feel they need to have treatments or surgeries. I don't need a chica with her chin done or a veneer. Give me natural. A true girl next door. Those are the type I think are 9's and 10's. Models don't impress me. I am sure some of you will agree and some prefer the exact type I despise. But that's why generalizing (about price or anything else) about so-called 9's and 10's is impossible.
Agree 100%. If these '9's and 10's' can be had for 200 k either the girl or the guy is completely blind. Perhaps both LOL.
But a 9 or a 10 by what standard? First, are we only talking about putas? Or also semi-pros? Non-pros?
Second, I at least hope we all agree that when you pay a high price for a so-called 9 or 10, that guarantees virtually nothing, other than to feel good about yourself for paying a lot of money for someone you perceive as a 9 or 10. The amount you pay does not guarantee good service. In fact, some of these model-types thinks their shit doesn't stink and they provide average (or below service) because there is always some guys who is willing to pay for the fantasy. Not saying all 9's and 10's give bad service, but many do.
Finally, what exactly is a 9 or 10? We act as if we all agree. I, for one, don't like the typical girl that many of you all might consider a 9 or 10. I like nice, natural hair. I like a pretty face, particularly one with little or no make-up. I like natural be-cup tits. I like smooth, soft skin with no tatoos (I don't care about a girl who works out so much her stomach looks like a male body-builder). I like a cute ass, but not a fat ass. I prefer spinners. I hate silicone. I hate girls who wear fake Gucci, Prado, Guess, etc. And think they are cool. I hate girls who feel they need to have treatments or surgeries. I don't need a chica with her chin done or a veneer. Give me natural. A true girl next door. Those are the type I think are 9's and 10's. Models don't impress me. I am sure some of you will agree and some prefer the exact type I despise. But that's why generalizing (about price or anything else) about so-called 9's and 10's is impossible.I definitely agree preferring natural over silicone. Even lipo or fat freezing or face contouring etc is a no go. . But a pretty smile is a must.
A true girl next door. Those are the type I think are 9's and 10's. A girl next door type can't be a 9 or 10. Unless you live in Bel Air and your neighbor is young Adriana Lima. A girl next door is an average looking chica, maybe in the 6 to 7 range.
Many don't realize that it is extremely difficult to find and score a true stunner, a 9 or a 10. Even those who are p4 p. They are scarce, they are in a very high demand, they are picky who they sleep with because they have plenty of options. Just think about it, a 9/10 or 10/10 are literally in the category of the most beautiful girls you have seen in your life. And some of us are in our 40's, 50's, 60' and 70's. What is the probability of a monger fucking one of the most beautiful girls he has ever met? How many of said girl would an average monger score in his life?
Me personally, I never had a 10. I had only one 9. Maybe 4-5 in the 8/8.5 range. All others, hundreds of them, were in the 6 to 8 range. So when someone says he scored a 9 or 10, I get skeptical, because most likely he is delusional. Especially when I hear "I paid her 200 mil", "I'm old, ugly, and have no game", etc. Wake the fuck up and adjust your 1-10 scale.
A girl next door type can't be a 9 or 10. Unless you live in Bel Air and your neighbor is young Adriana Lima. A girl next door is an average looking chica, maybe in the 6 to 7 range.Nonsense. Absolutely stunning women can be found almost anywhere. There's no worldwide agency inspecting every girl born and whisking away all the ones who will turn out to be "stunners" to some hidden enclave, where they're raised by a secret society entrusted with providing 10's to the world's elite.
Now, you might not consider what someone else calls a GND as a 9 or 10, but many others would disagree. In my opinion a GND is simply a beautiful woman, without the overworked hair and makeup, who typically dresses in normal attire.
Many don't realize that it is extremely difficult to find and score a true stunner, a 9 or a 10. Even those who are p4 p. They are scarce, they are in a very high demand, they are picky who they sleep with because they have plenty of options. Just think about it, a 9/10 or 10/10 are literally in the category of the most beautiful girls you have seen in your life. And some of us are in our 40's, 50's, 60' and 70's. What is the probability of a monger fucking one of the most beautiful girls he has ever met? How many of said girl would an average monger score in his life?I used to think the same way. "She's too beautiful to be interested in me. " "I can't compete with all the guys who are after her. " That mindset makes it extremely difficult and is probably why so many guys find themselves going to p4 p in order to get above average women.
Then I started talking to 1, just talk, normal stuff. She met all the requirements. She was in high demand, millionaires and billionaires were wooing her (and 25 years ago billionaires were a lot more scarce). She was beautiful, in face and body and she wasn't just jumping into bed with anyone. Yet, she ended up in my bed many times, often after going on a date with the guys who were supposedly my competition.
It's quite simple. Most of the guys you think you're competing with are either idiots or assholes. All any guy needs to do is to be a decent human being with at least a bit of a sense of humor. That combined with good hygiene and a dash of sincerity works wonders.
How many would a monger score in his life? That's a tough question. Before I started mongering (in my 50's), there were maybe a dozen. Since switching mostly to P4P, 5 or 6. I no longer see the point in seeking them out, besides I'm still doing the GF thing.
Me personally, I never had a 10. I had only one 9. Maybe 4-5 in the 8/8.5 range. All others, hundreds of them, were in the 6 to 8 range. So when someone says he scored a 9 or 10, I get skeptical, because most likely he is delusional. Especially when I hear "I paid her 200 mil", "I'm old, ugly, and have no game", etc. Wake the fuck up and adjust your 1-10 scale.This part confuses me. You've posted many times about going after only the top women, the best of the best, only the most beautiful for you. You've attacked many others because you felt they were only going after inferior women. Yet, with only a few exceptions, you say that almost all of the girls you've been with were in most guys average to above average range.
I don't use a 1-10 scale. If I did, a 6 would be a casa girl I'd settle for, because I didn't feel like looking for anything better, while a 7 would be 1 of the better casa girls. That's a 50-60 k girl. An 8 would be a HCEQV Facebook girl (a girl I can set up a date with by messaging "Hola. Como estas? Quiero verte), formerly 200 k, now no more than 300 k. Girls above an 8 usually require a conversation and a little more money, if I was rating them that way.
Age doesn't matter, especially in Medellin, especially if you're doing p4 p. Ugly is in your mind. If you think you're ugly, women will see you as ugly. Carry yourself with confidence and that's what women see. It doesn't take much time. You just need to find the places to look that fit into your life. If I'm searching out women, 5-10 minutes is more than enough to get her Whatsapp. Then it just takes a bit of patience and a few minutes for each exchange.
To clarify, I'm not competing with other men, and I'm not trying to be the highest bidder. All I've ever done was get a girl's attention and pique her interest. For every "in demand" stunner in Medellin, there are 100 more, just as beautiful, who would love the chance to meet a nice gringo.
Age doesn't matter, especially in Medellin, especially if you're doing p4 p. Ugly is in your mind. If you think you're ugly, women will see you as ugly. Carry yourself with confidence and that's what women see. It doesn't take much time. You just need to find the places to look that fit into your life. If I'm searching out women, 5-10 minutes is more than enough to get her Whatsapp. Then it just takes a bit of patience and a few minutes for each exchange.
To clarify, I'm not competing with other men, and I'm not trying to be the highest bidder. All I've ever done was get a girl's attention and pique her interest. For every "in demand" stunner in Medellin, there are 100 more, just as beautiful, who would love the chance to meet a nice gringo.Drop the bat and watch walk off home run!
I made the point in another post in another thread here in the Colombia forum that one should pay attention to their appearance and I was called an idiot by one of our less eloquent posters that populate the forum. Attitude and looks matter. In both transactional and non transactional relationships. As an example, I was getting a little straggly and needed a haircut and a shave. As I was walking with my girl I saw a barbershop and approached a young barber with a client and he invited me to be next. Long story short after he finished up with me. I came out of the shop and my girl told me I looked five years younger. And anecdotal illustration for sure. But looking your best and projecting confidence has never hurt anyone in life.
I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.
The reason for this post is:
I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.
In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:
They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated.
Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.
Anyway. Back to the incident at Energy. A group of nine of them came in the other day. It was disgraceful.
They cat-called the girls unnecessarily when they came out to present themselves. It was embarrassing to hear them calling out numbers like they were at a Magic City auction. One of these "gentlemen" was talking out loud in English referring to one of the girls as "his working girl". I wish someone would give them an etiquette course when they applied for their passport. It's frustrating because I leave the States to get away from these types of people. Much to my chagrin, they are here now in larger numbers and with more frequency.
Now obviously, a large group of men will be annoyingly loud. There are all-star nations of imbecile tourists. Israelis, Brits, and Aussies are some of the worst in the world. But the difference is that those tourists are usually more well-traveled than our homegrown hooligans and therefore they know how to take it down a notch.
All I can say is that these guys better watch it or else they'll make the news if one of them decides to mouth off in Parque Lleras. I hope they try to pull their shenanigans in Castilla or Manrique. That would be hilarious! And if you mess with the police, you will end up in a bad place.
Anyway, before some of you get all butt-hurt and try to cancel me, just ask yourself: Am I lying?
-Loki.
P.S. Don't bother messaging me privately unless you have something intelligent to say.
Hunglow1625
06-26-23, 13:06
I've been going to Med since 2005. I've too seen the changes (for the bad) with these type tourists. I was there a few weeks ago and was shocked to see as many fools from the states as I did. Colombians are reserved for the most part. So to watch these loud obnoxious American tourists behave the way they did was so embarrassing. A group of them were yelling (in English) to a young boy who was a beggar. They totally berated him. Then they did something and ran through the street yelling and laughing and then about 5 of them jumped in a little Yellow Taxi, slammed the doors on it yelling for the Taxi to "Go!" At this time this boys friends were yelling for the Policia! For whatever this group of hoods had done to their friend. The Cops were taking their time so the cab eventually left. I'm sure they handed him money because he didn't want to go at first. Something has to give. A few things can happen there, and I hope it eventually does to some of them and it sends a message. It makes your heart sink watching the bad behaviour from Americans there when your also American.
I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.
The reason for this post is:
I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.
In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:
They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated.
Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.
Anyway. Back to the incident at Energy. A group of nine of them came in the other day. It was disgraceful.
They cat-called the girls unnecessarily when they came out to present themselves. It was embarrassing to hear them calling out numbers like they were at a Magic City auction. One of these "gentlemen" was talking out loud in English referring to one of the girls as "his working girl". I wish someone would give them an etiquette course when they applied for their passport. It's frustrating because I leave the States to get away from these types of people. Much to my chagrin, they are here now in larger numbers and with more frequency.
Now obviously, a large group of men will be annoyingly loud. There are all-star nations of imbecile tourists. Israelis, Brits, and Aussies are some of the worst in the world. But the difference is that those tourists are usually more well-traveled than our homegrown hooligans and therefore they know how to take it down a notch.
All I can say is that these guys better watch it or else they'll make the news if one of them decides to mouth off in Parque Lleras. I hope they try to pull their shenanigans in Castilla or Manrique. That would be hilarious! And if you mess with the police, you will end up in a bad place.
Anyway, before some of you get all butt-hurt and try to cancel me, just ask yourself: Am I lying?
-Loki.
P.S. Don't bother messaging me privately unless you have something intelligent to say.
Thanks for the heads up and the Energy update. It's good to get the insider's perspective and a bit of inside information about the Dominican Republic. Did you have any observations about girls you are willing to add to your social observations?
I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.
The reason for this post is:
I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.
In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:
They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated..
JohnnyWalker55
06-26-23, 16:31
I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.
The reason for this post is:
I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.
In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:
They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated.
Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.
Anyway. Back to the incident at Energy. A group of nine of them came in the other day. It was disgraceful..I have been living 6 months of the year in mde since 2015. This stopped in Dec. 2021 when the city started going viral on social media. It is like Tulum or Cancun or Sosua now, fools with selfie sticks and go pros trying to go viral on tiktok or youtube and blowing up spots on twitter. It is really embarrassing behavior when you think about it, grown men taking little videos of their lives overseas because of insecurity. The group you mentioned used to be relegated to Cartagena, but now they have taken over "medejeen". It isn't a particular race thing though, you have all kinds of dweebs coming from the states that don't speak a lick of Spanish acting like marks.
For me Medellin is uninhabitable now, even sabaneta, envigado. There is a little enclave where ricerocket is, but not going to mention it. Currently in a smaller antioqueño town and it is calm, but boring tbh. And Bogota is too cold, zona t / g are getting over run as well. Tier 2-3 cities are the best option in Colombia right now unless you don't mind the piss poor American behavior (I am American BTW).
RamDavidson84
06-26-23, 17:20
I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.
The reason for this post is:
I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.
In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:
They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated.
Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.
Anyway. Back to the incident at Energy. A group of nine of them came in the other day. It was disgraceful.
They cat-called the girls unnecessarily when they came out to present themselves. It was embarrassing to hear them calling out numbers like they were at a Magic City auction. One of these "gentlemen" was talking out loud in English referring to one of the girls as "his working girl". I wish someone would give them an etiquette course when they applied for their passport. It's frustrating because I leave the States to get away from these types of people. Much to my chagrin, they are here now in larger numbers and with more frequency..First I want to say you are right about wanting to preserve Medellin and keep it from turning into the mess that is the DR, although I think it's already too late for that. Like you kind of already stated, any group of young guys on vacation are going to be rowdy. I been to Cartagena, Sosua, Santo Domingo, Jaco and never once have I had a problem with the way any urban Americans rolled. They were all just trying to have a good time like everyone else. Any group of young guys at that age on a mongering trip are going to be rowdy. Now what goes on behind closed doors, I don't know. The biggest problem is just social media and the huge numbers of tourists in general. Dudes filming everything and blasting it all over instagram and youtube.
I have said this before. We should try to uphold the narrative on the forum of preservation of the game. This means keep your head down, treat everyone right, don't splash your cash, and stay the fuck out of any legal trouble. Bring class to the game to preserve it. And stop filming and taking pictures of every little fucking thing you do.
Sad to say, but Cartagena is already ruined, look at all the druggings in Medellin. Many have switched to the new spot which is good for now, but how long until cat is out of the bag on that one and tons of videos go up and tourists ruin that place too.
You should care to a certain degree If you are here posting. I do. Thats why DR hoes are charging 150 US and Brazil is pricy too. Why, because of the make it rain mentally. But Hi do you man. Enjoy yourself!How many times have guys who pay more decided to pay less after being reprimanded on ISG? My guess is never. Its a waste of time to criticize overpayers.
Mr Enternational
07-09-23, 17:54
I don't think the price can be affected by a single monger. Let's fast forward 12 months from now. It is possible one of your regulars who you consider hot asks for twice you have been paying because that is what others are paying her. And no monger can affect the exchange rate, which has been slipping the past few months. Eventually, things reach a point where those that do not care, come to find out actually do care.
No said we are reprimanded my G. Just voicing my opinion in a forum about our sport. Just spoke to a ISG member. Told me his boy payed 800 k for a night. LMAO! Other guy are paying for these hoes college or beautician school, which is the biggest waste of money IMO. Every Colombian girl wants to go to beautician school. OMG! There sure are a lot of simps in this new generation.
How many times have guys who pay more decided to pay less after being reprimanded on ISG? My guess is never. Its a waste of time to criticize overpayers.
MarquisdeSade1
07-09-23, 18:23
I've lost track how many visits I've made here and have never been murdered or robbed (YET).
What are these mongers doing? He wasn't even here 100 hrs on his 1st visit and they find him dead next to a dumpster?
https://www.traveloffpath.com/colombia-losing-popularity-with-americans-as-crimes-against-tourists-spiral-out-of-control
25 tourists murdered in just the 1st 10 months of the year? WTF is that a typo?
that would have to make MDE the most dangerous mongering hub on the planet
I went to a Scotiabank ATM and they're now charging a 20900 COP fee for withdrawals. This is corroborated by another poster here. I guess this leaves BBVA and Davivienda as the only fee free national ATM networks in Colombia? Even though my card reimburses ATM fees, I feel their reimbursements are sometimes off and don't want to deal with it if possible.
Full disclosure: I am melanin-rich! I only spend one week a month in Medellin. I like the Dominican Republic enough to live there. And I am renting a room in Sosua next year to try it out. My country of origin is the (Dis) United States of America. I think outside the box.
Anyway, before some of you get all butt-hurt and try to cancel me, just ask yourself: Am I lying?I am not going to call you an intentional lier. But in my opinion you are misinformed about the Dominican Republic. Forgive me, I just don't remember reading your posts in the Dominican Republic forum over there during last ten years I have been posting there. But if I have missed them please point them out to me so I can do a deeper dive into your work and maybe change my opinion on what you have written here. I am certainly willing to discuss anything you wish to say about the Dominican Republic wherever you would like. I am not using an appeal to authority. So share your facts and opinions but be ready to back up your factual statements.
Not here to cancel anyone. I am here to respond and give a different perspective. So if anyone is not able to handle what I write please stop reading now. I don't want anyone to have an apoplectic fit.
How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.How shall I say it? Like a man. That is some bullshit! What's up with the code? State it like it is. Are you one of the melanin-rich or melanin-poor? This information will inform my opinion on your attitude.
Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.Those are strong words. Are you able to back them up. The ones about the Dominican Republic? May I ask, have you even visited the Dominican Republic? If so, where. I state again, I have missed your posts about it.
Now obviously, a large group of men will be annoyingly loud. There are all-star nations of imbecile tourists. Israelis, Brits, and Aussies are some of the worst in the world. But the difference is that those tourists are usually more well-traveled than our homegrown hooligans and therefore they know how to take it down a notch.I see we are back to the melanin-rich or melanin-poor comparisons. Have you stopped to think what it takes to get a passport in the United States or any other country? Your description of them is inaccurate at best and 'ist' at worst. Less than 50% of all citizens of the United States of America hold passports. The individual you describe are elite. That is a fact. What you think about them is is your opinion.
P.S. Don't bother messaging me privately unless you have something intelligent to say.Why would I try to message someone, who seems on the face of it to be ill informed on the Dominican Republic, but insists on using it to compare to things that he does not like that he sees in Colombia? I have no basis to dispute anything you say about Colombia. I do not hang where you hang and therefore I don't see what you see when I am in Colombia.
But in my opinion, your comments about the Dominican Republic indicate to me as a person who actually lives in the country that you don't know jack (my nice word) about the Dominican Republic. Anyone who doubts my knowledge base refer to this post in the Medellin thread:
Hope you enjoy your trip SubCmdr. Lots of great info from your posts in the Dominican thread.He read my work.
It's good to get the insider's perspective and a bit of inside information about the Dominican Republic.What inside information about the Dominican Republic is that?
First I want to say you are right about wanting to preserve Medellin and keep it from turning into the mess that is the DR, although I think it's already too late for that. You and Loki are not right about the Dominican Republic. And in fact as the The Notorious B.I.G. said: "you're dead wrong!".
"Relax and take notes, while I take tokes of the marijuana smoke. " - The Notorious B.I.G, Dead Wrong.
And it is about race and nationality. Your post proves it. That is why you are who you are and writing about it. With the code words and implications that the actions of one group of people are better than another group of people.
I live in the Dominican Republic and unless you are in a very specific place in the the Dominican Republic (Sosua) in a very specific venue (Rumbas / Kings), you will not see any of the actions that are have been described by RamDavison84 or Loki..
And I take issue with terms like Melanin-rich variety from the United States. And I will state further that if you don't believe me about the Dominican Republic, I don't give a fuck. Live in the Dominican Republic for ten years and tell me I am wrong or that I am lying. Then give me some facts to back it up. Opinions, you know what they say about those. I'm writing this from Sosua this very moment. How you like me now?.
Fuck all those who are melanin deprived with bad attitudes. Those who look at culture and cannot understand it. Even when it is been in their face in their own country for years. They are like hammers seeing everything in life like a nail. Individuals like that have been colonizing the world for years. These posts read like the opinions of pussy colonizers that are facing competition from individuals willing to do what others are not.
Just because I don't like an attitude or actions that someone displays does not mean I am going to condemn it. And if I don't like what I see in Rumbas / Kings I do not have to go there. If you don't like the behavior of a certain group of people, be men, use clear language and state who they are. Talk to management of the establishment and ask them to confront the behavior or leave. Do do otherwise is some passive aggressive girly man shit. I understand completely if you see disagreeable behavior and comment on it. But keep the Dominican Republic out of your mother fucking mouth if all you know about it is what you see on Youtube. And if you don't like what I have to say, then put me on ignore. If you throw up weak ass mess, I am going to go hard in the paint and reject that shit forth with!
"I dont give a fuck if you dont like my shit. Cause I was high when I wrote this so suck my dick" - Eminem, Under the Influence..
"I'm using rubbers, so they won't trace the semen
The black demon, got the little hookers screamin' (whoo!)
Because you know I love it young, fresh and green
With no hair in between, know what I mean? (C'mon, I know what you mean)" - The Notorious B.I.G, Dead Wrong..
Ok, so I have completed my second trip to Medellin and although I do not have a lot of experience I can certainly share what I have experience do have in Medellin. If you are a "Where the hoes at guy?" Skip this post.
I have a girlfriend in Medellin and I have not paid a prostitute in Colombia up to this date. Although I do find many of the posts in this thread to be quite informative. The ones challenging the amount that others pay for pussy or judgments of the quality of the prostitutes being hired is based on price if find to be quite useless. When the time comes to pay a prostitute I will report it here.
but taxis from the airport to Poblado cost 90,000 pesos ($21) in Colombia.
There is a sign, where you pick up your luggage, that informs tourists how much the taxi is -- and yes it clearly states 98,000 COP if you want the car all to yourself (a shared ride is cheaper, if someone is found to share it with you).
On 6/1/23 it was 98 K. That has been the same price all year for me.My experiences have been, 90,000 COP from city to MDE airport. Shout out to my ISG Brother who hit me on the back channel with the information of making a reservation with a taxi service. But, when I arrive, I have been being charged 120,000 COP for the ride into the city. Consistently. What I have been told is that after a certain hour the rate goes up. And let me tell you gentlemen, all the drivers are consistent. They would not budge at all. And I asked half a dozen different drivers and they all gave me the same price. But now I have at least found a driver that I trust. And when I hit him the day before to take me to the airport he showed up 45 minutes early and told me he would just wait down stairs until I was ready. I am finding that I need a solid 3 hours to check in, clear immigration and arrive at my gate on time.
ATMs are our friends.ATMs have not been my friend. The exchange rate I got was horrible from the ATMs. What did find is the my credit card company gave me great exchange rates. That is not usually the case when I travel. Colombia is strange in that regard.
Most people use an ATM in the airport to get taxi money.Yes, on my second trip I did that. I saw one as I exited before breaking right for the taxis. Thank you.
Hope you enjoy your trip SubCmdr. Lots of great info from your posts in the Dominican thread. Official taxi from MDE are 90 k and that includes tolls as the airport is something like a 45 min away from the actual city.I have found the taxi out of the city to the airport to be 90,000 COP just as you said.
Have you considered using a schwabb checking account or capital one checking account and using the debit card (no no fees from these banks) to withdraw money instead of exchanging actual currency?I have been using the account suggested since APPL was trading at 4. So thank you, it is excellent recommendation and I make it to others also.
Also, you should try guarapo (cane juice with lime in it. Similar to our united states lemonade, but much better) and bandeja paisa (a meal with a little bit of everything on the plate. It originated in this area). Have fun.I tried both and enjoyed both. Thank you for the suggestions. I have had a great time during my visits to Medellin. I find it to be a breath of fresh air compared to the Dominican Republic. A will organized city with strong infrastructure and domestically produced good of high quality. I shop and eat out in restaurants with my girlfriend almost everyday.
I've lost track how many visits I've made here and have never been murdered or robbed (YET).
What are these mongers doing? He wasn't even here 100 hrs on his 1st visit and they find him dead next to a dumpster?
https://www.traveloffpath.com/colombia-losing-popularity-with-americans-as-crimes-against-tourists-spiral-out-of-control
25 tourists murdered in just the 1st 10 months of the year? WTF is that a typo?
that would have to make MDE the most dangerous mongering hub on the planetThe 25 murders were not necessarily all mongers. But it may be among the more dangerous places if you are in a situation where you can be drugged. The guy that was killed just made a date with a gal on social media, I think Tinder. And took her to his room.
Based on the number of people I have met personally that have been scoped, it is an epidemic of that kind of crime. Not just this year, it has been going on for a while. And most just get robbed, and sleep off the effects of the drug or drugs. But it is easy for the women to overdose a guy too. Hence some deaths, ie murders.
The 25 murders were not necessarily all mongers. But it may be among the more dangerous places if you are in a situation where you can be drugged. The guy that was killed just made a date with a gal on social media, I think Tinder. And took her to his room.
Based on the number of people I have met personally that have been scoped, it is an epidemic of that kind of crime. Not just this year, it has been going on for a while. And most just get robbed, and sleep off the effects of the drug or drugs. But it is easy for the women to overdose a guy too. Hence some deaths, ie murders.Being drugged is not something I worry about when I visit Thailand or the Philippines or even Mexico. So that adds an element of danger that does not exist in those other countries. Some guys just brush it off and ignore it but it is something you need to be aware of. I have some friends who refuse to come to Columbia for that reason and their belief is that you should not risk your life for pussy. They are perfectly content with those other countries and I do not try to defend safety of Colombia because I cannot. But if you take precautions and are aware of your surroundings, you can avoid being a victim of crime. Along with being drugged, there is also the danger of being robbed on the streets.
So far I have not been a victim of crime but I've been taking precautions as should we all.
DiscoverFL
07-10-23, 14:02
Gents, help out a newbie please. What is a good venue by Parque Lleras to have a beer and watch the lleras girls walking by until I see one of my likings? Some venues seem to over charge based on google reviews. Thanks.It's a lot easier when you get there. There are a ton of tables on the street now. Sit at an empty one and order a beer. But if you want something mapable, the LICOEXPRESS on the corner of Cra. 40 and Calle 9 A is a popular easy place to sit and chill. But once you are there you will realize you've got dozens of sitting places to chill.
I've lost track how many visits I've made here Right, because it's impossible to count to zero. It's been well established that you've never been to Colombia.
DiscoverFL
07-10-23, 17:58
But, when I arrive, I have been being charged 120,000 COP for the ride into the city. Consistently. What I have been told is that after a certain hour the rate goes up. And let me tell you gentlemen, all the drivers are consistent. They would not budge at all. And I asked half a dozen different drivers and they all gave me the same price.I've arrived 7+ times in the last two years, mid-day, evening, etc. Never experienced this. Just walk up to the white cabs, jump into the next one on duty, mumble "Voy a Poblado, cien mil, no?" and the guy nods and we are off. Never had anyone suggest anything different. I did have one guy confirm that I wanted to take the tunnel, and I did have one guy that I wasn't sure if he was going to take the tunnel so I clarified "por el tunel por favor".
I am finding that I need a solid 3 hours to check in, clear immigration and arrive at my gate on time.I usually do 10-15 minutes to check-in (gate line), then 10-15 minute walk through security, then the painful 30+ minute wait for immigration, then I'm in. Never taken more than an hour, though that immigration line has made it feel longer. Usually then head to one of the lounges (the 2nd one behind the 1st one is always quieter with better service) and hang out until flight time.
ATMs have not been my friend. The exchange rate I got was horrible from the ATMs. What did find is the my credit card company gave me great exchange rates. That is not usually the case when I travel. Colombia is strange in that regard.Never accept the exchange rate of an ATM! Always decline it and you will get the very good exchange rate of your ATM card (or credit card if using that). If you use one that charges a transaction fee, try to use a card that will reimburse you (seems you already are). ATMs are definitely your friend. Davivienda remains my favorite, but Occidental has worked for me in a pinch. Since they let me take out 2 MIL COP at a time.
I know you can't really get STD by having your duck sucked without a condom. But what about eating a pussy? I'the like to do that with a working girl, but don't want to catch anything.
MarquisdeSade1
07-10-23, 20:25
Right, because it's impossible to count to zero. It's been well established that you've never been to Colombia.I'm quite unimpressed by your low IQ and lame attempt to deflect from the question at hand.
POST SCRIPT next time don't forget to include the equally lame, "they are in their mommys basement typing away" you must be so intelligent, so unique.
BRAVO BRAVO! ENCORE POR FAVOR.
MarquisdeSade1
07-10-23, 20:36
The 25 murders were not necessarily all mongers. But it may be among the more dangerous places if you are in a situation where you can be drugged. The guy that was killed just made a date with a gal on social media, I think Tinder. And took her to his room.
Based on the number of people I have met personally that have been scoped, it is an epidemic of that kind of crime. Not just this year, it has been going on for a while. And most just get robbed, and sleep off the effects of the drug or drugs. But it is easy for the women to overdose a guy too. Hence some deaths, ie murders.Well it doesn't say either way.
But I seriously doubt they were little old ladies doing tours of the Botero statues or the flower festival in Santa Elena.
25 is YUGE in 10 months.
Name another city any city in the world losing that many "tourists" to murder each year? Not to mention how tiny Medellin is.
In most places its the putas getting killed.
Not the mongers WTF is going on.
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/serial-killer-suspect-arrested-california-18191143.php
I try to keep my distance from the stoopid.
Stoopid people attract danger and I don't want to be in the same proximity.
Its like walking thru the hood.
They can be shooting at someone else and get you.
Stoopid is as stoopid does.
The 25 murders were not necessarily all mongers. But it may be among the more dangerous places if you are in a situation where you can be drugged. The guy that was killed just made a date with a gal on social media, I think Tinder. And took her to his room.
Based on the number of people I have met personally that have been scoped, it is an epidemic of that kind of crime. Not just this year, it has been going on for a while. And most just get robbed, and sleep off the effects of the drug or drugs. But it is easy for the women to overdose a guy too. Hence some deaths, ie murders.Dudes need to quit bringing chicks back to the same rooms they keep all their shit in. Especially if it is the first time you have met this girl.
You must always decline the conversion rate offer to avoid getting hosed at the ATMs. Search the forum for ATM for further details. You should also decline any ride offers from drivers who are not operating the white taxis with a blue stripe down their sides. Those are the taxis that charge the rate you see posted in the arrivals area of the airport. By the way, that rate is government regulated and only changes in January. I think I remember you refuse to use uber, didi, or indriver. Those are also good options that are rarely more than the regulated rate and often less. There is a 24 hour bus service that costs 14,000 pesos.
Ok, so I have completed my second trip to Medellin and although I do not have a lot of experience I can certainly share what I have experience do have in Medellin. If you are a "Where the hoes at guy?" Skip this post.
I have a girlfriend in Medellin and I have not paid a prostitute in Colombia up to this date. Although I do find many of the posts in this thread to be quite informative. The ones challenging the amount that others pay for pussy or judgments of the quality of the prostitutes being hired is based on price if find to be quite useless. When the time comes to pay a prostitute I will report it here.
My experiences have been, 90,000 COP from city to MDE airport. Shout out to my ISG Brother who hit me on the back channel with the information of making a reservation with a taxi service. But, when I arrive, I have been being charged 120,000 COP for the ride into the city. Consistently. What I have been told is that after a certain hour the rate goes up. And let me tell you gentlemen, all the drivers are consistent. They would not budge at all. And I asked half a dozen different drivers and they all gave me the same price. But now I have at least found a driver that I trust. And when I hit him the day before to take me to the airport he showed up 45 minutes early and told me he would just wait down stairs until I was ready. I am finding that I need a solid 3 hours to check in, clear immigration and arrive at my gate on time.
ATMs have not been my friend. The exchange rate I got was horrible from the ATMs. What did find is the my credit card company gave me great exchange rates. That is not usually the case when I travel. Colombia is strange in that regard.
Yes, on my second trip I did that. I saw one as I exited before breaking right for the taxis. Thank you.
I have found the taxi out of the city to the airport to be 90,000 COP just as you said.
I have been using the account suggested since APPL was trading at 4. So thank you, it is excellent recommendation and I make it to others also.
I tried both and enjoyed both. Thank you for the suggestions. I have had a great time during my visits to Medellin. I find it to be a breath of fresh air compared to the Dominican Republic. A will organized city with strong infrastructure and domestically produced good of high quality. I shop and eat out in restaurants with my girlfriend almost everyday.
Just finished another trip in Medellin and it is getting a bit harder to find really good Chicas at decent prices because some of you insist on overpaying these Chicas instead of politely telling them NO when they quote in USD instead of pesos.
Can you find a chica for less than 150 USD at Gustos and clubs nearby? YES and they are good looking.
I went to this club right across from Gustos named GLOW VIP, the chicas in there were nicely dressed and my homie took one out for 120 USD or 450 K Pesos. After our stint in GLow, he took his girl home and I walked over to Gustos, and the Chicas in there were less attractive than those from GLOW, it was packed but I was able to find a table near the entrance and simply sat and observed -first Chica that caught my eye was a fake blonde and I simply asked her how much? 300 dlares - LOL, no gracias mami and she walked off. A brunette parked her ass right front of me (see pic in white), finally motioned her over and we started a convo, brought her a drink and we agreed on 450 k pesos, the body was at least 8 (to me, Chicas bodies get a plus 1 rating if they have a phat ass lol) and face was really cute. That's the most I have paid for a chic thus far in medellin, just think if you can get a 10 at Loutron for 400 k pesos, talk to her get her number why would you pay more for a lesser looking chic at Gustos? Try to talk to the chick, make some sort of connection, don't be an asshole and you might save hundreds of thousands of pesos.
Are there chics asking for 300 USD and not budging, of course but there are plenty more not willing to go home empty handed. Do you Chica proof your apt before allowing a random prostitute inside? Secure all your valuables, stay in a secure building where they take their ID and pics and call you before she leaves to make sure you weren't drugged? Gustos Chica was told to go back to my apt and get me because I missed the phone call from security when she tried to leave.
Small edit-When I went to SPA Energy, I encountered a few younger mongers, I tried to say hello and dude just mumbled something and looked straight down, never looked back at me LOOOL, if u are reading this my young bro its OK, I guess u were embarrassed that I saw u there? NO need, its cool and to each his own LOOLLL :-)
I went to OCI.MDE and they have a sign that says "NO to SEX tourism!" It appears that some of you have been bringing these hoodrat looking hoes to fine dining establishments LOL.
PS against my better wishes, I have added a face pic of one of the Chicas I banged and NO she didnt cost me 300 USD. If one of you breaks the fucking code and go blab to this Chica, I wont post anymore pics. All of the chics I banged were on her level or MUCH better, paid btw 300-450K (max) for all of the chics. I would rather become a Loutron houserat before I pay a fucking avg chic 300 USD at GustosOCI has had that sign for a long time.
And I've stated before many idiots and yes this is an idiot who are bringing down bello hoodrats for steak and lobster and treating them like absolute princesses.
My experiences have been, 90,000 COP from city to MDE airport. Shout out to my ISG Brother who hit me on the back channel with the information of making a reservation with a taxi service. But, when I arrive, I have been being charged 120,000 COP for the ride into the city. Consistently. What I have been told is that after a certain hour the rate goes up. And let me tell you gentlemen, all the drivers are consistent. They would not budge at all. And I asked half a dozen different drivers and they all gave me the same price. There's a sign posted nearby where the white taxis are located that lists the pricing for the white cabs from the airport.
The fare is 98 K to Poblado, and higher rates for further outlying cities like Envigado. I don't know where you where going but it sounds as though the cab driver added the 20,600 K tunnel fare "peaje" to your fare assuming you would assume that it was an additional.
Whenever I either go to and from the airport from Poblado, I just say 100 K and off we go. However, very late at night the white cab drivers will ask for more leaving the airport contrary to the posted rates.
Over the past five years I have flown over 20 times from Rio Negro having to clear immigration in Medellin and it has never taken over an hour to clear immigration, but regardless of this I always arrive three hours early as you never know.
This is what my experience has been.
Nil Admirari
07-11-23, 03:09
I went to a Scotiabank ATM and they're now charging a 20900 COP fee for withdrawals. This is corroborated by another poster here. I guess this leaves BBVA and Davivienda as the only fee free national ATM networks in Colombia?
If I'm not mistaken, it had been the Scotiabank Colpatria branches whose ATM's offered a good exchange rate with no fee (as opposed to the plain, "Colpatria"less Scotiabanks). When I was last in Medellin in March one could make four withdrawals of 900,000 each (3,600,000 total) at one go, with no fee. Have you been charged a fee at one of their banks? (I used the Scotiabank Colpatria branch on the second floor inside Exito Laureles on Carrera 81.
MarquisdeSade1
07-11-23, 04:05
I know you can't really get STD by having your duck sucked without a condom. But what about eating a pussy? I'the like to do that with a working girl, but don't want to catch anything.There is oral gonorrhea, genital warts / hpv virus, syphilis, probably the last 2-3 mongers jizz.
And I'm sure there are at least few other things.
But other than that.
Bon Appetit.
Probably safer licking the shower floor of a truck stop that has never been cleaned.
There's a sign posted nearby where the white taxis are located that lists the pricing for the white cabs from the airport.I believe you. I just have never seen it personally. Others have mentioned it.
Whenever I either go to and from the airport from Poblado, I just say 100 K and off we go.From my location it is a consistent 90,000 COP to the airport. I like Poblado. I go there to eat breakfast on occasion. Otherwise I stay out of that area. I prefer El Centro.
However, very late at night the white cab drivers will ask for more leaving the airport contrary to the posted rates.Since my usual flight schedule has me arriving "very late at night" that is the reason I have been given by the white cab drivers for the 120,000 COP rate to my spot.
Over the past five years I have flown over 20 times from Rio Negro having to clear immigration in Medellin and it has never taken over an hour to clear immigration, but regardless of this I always arrive three hours early as you never know.I have never timed clearing immigration in Medellin to leave only on arrival. And I can share with you that I arrived 2 hours early on my first trip to leave and almost missed by flight between airline check in and immigration and decided never again. Three hours early for me also.
This is what my experience has been.Thank you for sharing. This is how I learn.
JohnnyWalker55
07-11-23, 09:34
Why is $800 k too much for toda la noche?Because that's almost the average monthly colombian salary.
Would you pay an american girl $3500 to spend the night?
Another reason why MDE is toast. The new tulum.
Because that's almost the average monthly colombian salary.
Would you pay an american girl $3500 to spend the night?
Another reason why MDE is toast. The new tulum.I understand that rationale but you can also look at it this way. Depending on where you live, you probably spent an average of 600 to $700 to get here, for a week you paid probably $500 for your hotel. You're here to have a good time. You meet the hottest girl that you've ever seen and would ever been with and she tells you that she'll do everything that you want all night for $191 US which wouldn't even get you one hour with an escort in America. Now you will turn her down because of the theory that well that's the average monthly Colombian salary as if that matters to you. So you go home on that plane following this advice not having that experience with the hottest girl you've ever seen who do everything you want all night because of the principle that well it's a lot of money in Colombia although it's actually not a lot of money to me. You should be commended for your principles while another guy is having the time of his life and you can call him a simp.
You must always decline the conversion rate offer to avoid getting hosed at the ATMs. Search the forum for ATM for further details.Thank you for sharing. That is how I learn. In other parts of the world my usage of the ATM is straight forward. I see Colombian banks are straight running a scam.
You should also decline any ride offers from drivers who are not operating the white taxis with a blue stripe down their sides. Those are the taxis that charge the rate you see posted in the arrivals area of the airport. By the way, that rate is government regulated and only changes in January.These are the ones that are telling me the fee is 120,000 COP to a man. All of them. Are you telling me that arrival time has nothing to do with the change?
Because that's almost the average monthly colombian salary.
Would you pay an american girl $3500 to spend the night?
Another reason why MDE is toast. The new tulum.And they don't even speak the same language, lmao.
AmorPorFavor
07-11-23, 17:57
I understand that rationale but you can also look at it this way. Depending on where you live, you probably spent an average of 600 to $700 to get here, for a week you paid probably $500 for your hotel. You're here to have a good time. You meet the hottest girl that you've ever seen and would ever been with and she tells you that she'll do everything that you want all night for $191 US which wouldn't even get you one hour with an escort in America. Now you will turn her down because of the theory that well that's the average monthly Colombian salary as if that matters to you. So you go home on that plane following this advice not having that experience with the hottest girl you've ever seen who do everything you want all night because of the principle that well it's a lot of money in Colombia although it's actually not a lot of money to me. You should be commended for your principles while another guy is having the time of his life and you can call him a simp.Yup the broke ass cheap Charlies never get to experience the best the women of MDE have to offer. But they go home with a few extra bucks in their pockets. I prefer the top shelf experience of all nighters or long dates with dinners with model types and them doing everything you want in bed. All the BB sex I can muster. YOLO.
Yup the broke ass cheap Charlies never get to experience the best the women of MDE have to offer. But they go home with a few extra bucks in their pockets. I prefer the top shelf experience of all nighters or long dates with dinners with model types and them doing everything you want in bed. All the BB sex I can muster. YOLO.Them 7's really got you gassed up. Mans feeling like John Gotti now.
Thank you for sharing. That is how I learn. In other parts of the world my usage of the ATM is straight forward. I see Colombian banks are straight running a scam.I don't understand how it's a scam. The banks give you a choice of accepting or declining their conversion rate. Every ATM I've been to in Medellin that charges a fee gives you that information before your transaction is completed. The user has the option to cancel the transaction. I traveled to the Far East before the pandemic and many ATM's there were offering their own conversion rate.
These are the ones that are telling me the fee is 120,000 COP to a man. All of them. Are you telling me that arrival time has nothing to do with the change?The official rate is the same 24 hours a day. You should show those drivers who are asking for 120 mil the sign outside the departure doors. The next time I arrive at MDE, I'll try to remember to take a photo of the sign and post it here.
The official rate is the same 24 hours a day. You should show those drivers who are asking for 120 mil the sign outside the departure doors. The next time I arrive at MDE, I'll try to remember to take a photo of the sign and post it here.What happened to me one night earlier this year I arrived very late, like after 1 AM and there was one white taxi out on the curb and the driver asked me where I was going and when I said Poblado, he said 120,000 Pesos. Since I was already a zombie after flying from California and my other options where limited, I decided to just pay the fucker the extra 22,000 Pesos.
As you mentioned there is a pricing list for the white cabs posted with the fares to various locations in and around Medellin. The fare to Poblado is posted at 98 K and as you mention should be in effect no matter what time of day, but unfortunately is not always abided by.
I think in some instances what the cab drivers are doing are adding the 20,600 Peso toll fare to the published fare hence asking for 120,000 Pesos which may be what some others have expereinced. So for others travelling during the day and early evening, when there are a bunch of cabs out they should just confirm that the 98 K or 100 K fare includes the tunnel toll which does.
And if a cab driver try's to pull that stunt on them I would report them, but probably a waste of time.
Thank you for sharing. That is how I learn. In other parts of the world my usage of the ATM is straight forward. I see Colombian banks are straight running a scam.
These are the ones that are telling me the fee is 120,000 COP to a man. All of them. Are you telling me that arrival time has nothing to do with the change?Just take the bus, problem and money solved.
The ATM conversion rate offers are unnecessarily confusing and it's intentional. It is showing up in more and more countries around Latin America. Besides Colombia, I've personally seen it in Dominican Republic and Brazil.
The bus and taxi rates have nothing to do with time of day. The uber / didi / indriver rates will of course vary according to demand and time of day. As I wrote previously, the ride share app rates are rarely as high as the taxi rate.
I don't understand how it's a scam. The banks give you a choice of accepting or declining their conversion rate. Every ATM I've been to in Medellin that charges a fee gives you that information before your transaction is completed. The user has the option to cancel the transaction. I traveled to the Far East before the pandemic and many ATM's there were offering their own conversion rate.
The official rate is the same 24 hours a day. You should show those drivers who are asking for 120 mil the sign outside the departure doors. The next time I arrive at MDE, I'll try to remember to take a photo of the sign and post it here.
Thank you for sharing. That is how I learn. In other parts of the world my usage of the ATM is straight forward. I see Colombian banks are straight running a scam.
These are the ones that are telling me the fee is 120,000 COP to a man. All of them. Are you telling me that arrival time has nothing to do with the change?Information is power, my recommendation is to make it known to the drivers that you know the rate. If they insist then just use uber / didi / inddriver. You can also take the bus and avoid discussions altogether. All these services operate 24/7. I sometimes grab a ride share if there is a long line for the bus (usually late at night). It's pretty common worldwide that taxistas try to take advantage of people who aren't familiar with the rates or the trip routes. The yellow taxis at Bogota's El Dorado airport are notorious for it. I tell Colombians who complain to me about it to benchmark the fare on ride share or taxi (cabify, Coopebombas) apps, then plug your destination into a GPS app set to Spanish and pump up the volume. The app will immediately announce when the driver tries to deviagte from the route. They don't normally try anything once they realize you are aware enough to turn on GPS.
It can happen if you are really unlucky. It's pretty much a game of Russian roulette. It all depends on how many flights arrive near the time of your arrival. Normal unpredicatable arrival delays make it hard to schedule around busy times. I don't remember every spending an hour on the immigration line. I've heard of passengers with document problems being detained for long periods but that's another issue.
There's a sign posted nearby where the white taxis are located that lists the pricing for the white cabs from the airport.
The fare is 98 K to Poblado, and higher rates for further outlying cities like Envigado. I don't know where you where going but it sounds as though the cab driver added the 20,600 K tunnel fare "peaje" to your fare assuming you would assume that it was an additional.
Whenever I either go to and from the airport from Poblado, I just say 100 K and off we go. However, very late at night the white cab drivers will ask for more leaving the airport contrary to the posted rates.
Over the past five years I have flown over 20 times from Rio Negro having to clear immigration in Medellin and it has never taken over an hour to clear immigration, but regardless of this I always arrive three hours early as you never know.
This is what my experience has been.
It's probably better to smoke a cigar or have a batida.
I know you can't really get STD by having your duck sucked without a condom. But what about eating a pussy? I'the like to do that with a working girl, but don't want to catch anything.
Because that's almost the average monthly colombian salary.
Would you pay an american girl $3500 to spend the night?
Another reason why MDE is toast. The new tulum.You are confusing the AVERAGE and MINIMUM salaries. In 2023, the average salary in Colombia is about 1000-1100 USD / month. The minimum salary is about $300 USD (1. 3 million COP). In the US, the minimum salary varies in each state, from about 7. 25 USD / HR to 15-16 USD / HR (in very few states, like DC or California). $7. 25 at 40 hrs a week is "whopping" 1160 USD / month.
You don't pay a Colombian girl $1100 to spend the night. You pay her $100 USD on average, maybe a bit more depending on how hot she is. Thats 1/10 of the average salary.
1/10 of $3500 is $350. Can you get a hot girl to spend the night with you in the States for $350? I doubt it. But even if you can, the ratios are pretty much the same.
Mr Enternational
07-11-23, 21:37
Yup the broke ass cheap Charlies never get to experience the best the women of MDE have to offer. But they go home with a few extra bucks in their pockets. I prefer the top shelf experience of all nighters or long dates with dinners with model types and them doing everything you want in bed. All the BB sex I can muster. YOLO.Who says the person is broke or cheap because they do not pay more. How is there always a comparison, but where I am from? If you went to London and paid 2 times as much as it does back home in Alabama, would you holler but back home?
Avianca has always had 1 price for the rich foreigners but a different price for the broke ass cheap charlie local people. If you go onto the Colombian version of the website you can get the cheaper price without even being Colombian. Knowing this, why would you even brag that you purposely went on the foreign Avianca site to pay the higher price, because back home an airplane ride would cost more and you do not want to appear cheap or broke?
Mr Enternational
07-11-23, 21:45
You are confusing the AVERAGE and MINIMUM salaries. In 2023, the average salary in Colombia is about 1000-1100 USD / month. The minimum salary is about $300 USD (1. 3 million COP).
You don't pay a Colombian girl $1100 to spend the night. You pay her $100 USD on average, maybe a bit more depending on how hot she is. Thats 1/10 of the average salary.You can dig even deeper and say well there is no Colombian person from the neighborhood she is from and with the education that she has making the AVERAGE. Pretty sure they are almost all making the minimum. But if she can get it, then why not.
RudeBwoy100
07-11-23, 22:38
Because that's almost the average monthly colombian salary.
Would you pay an american girl $3500 to spend the night?
Another reason why MDE is toast. The new tulum.1. $200 isn't the average salary in Colombia, it's closer to $1 k / month.
2. $200 for all night and GFE with an 8+/10 Colombian hottie is a bargain, I'm also from a third world country and that's what the escorts charge for long time and the girls aren't anywhere near as hot as Colombians.
3. Hot Americans girls are like $1 k+/ HR, $5-10 k for the entire night is the going rate, atleast when you look at Tryst and Eros and other high end sites.
4. The same girls who charge $800 k cop for all night charge like $130-200 k cop for 1 HR, $800 k cop for 8+ hours is a bargain and I don't understand how you can think this is too expensive.
Minimum wage doesn't matter. Very few people work for 7. 25 with no tips. Popeyes near me pays 15.00 an hour to start. Medellin girls should ask for whatever they can get because they hit the wall fast. I've never had a girl in Colombia ask 200 dollars for an hour. She must not have wanted to go and shot high. 100 dollars all day. 500 k pesos can get any girl in gusto or park lleras. Unfortunately they are really weathered and older looking.
You are confusing the AVERAGE and MINIMUM salaries. In 2023, the average salary in Colombia is about 1000-1100 USD / month. The minimum salary is about $300 USD (1. 3 million COP). In the US, the minimum salary varies in each state, from about 7. 25 USD / HR to 15-16 USD / HR (in very few states, like DC or California). $7. 25 at 40 hrs a week is "whopping" 1160 USD / month.
You don't pay a Colombian girl $1100 to spend the night. You pay her $100 USD on average, maybe a bit more depending on how hot she is. Thats 1/10 of the average salary.
1/10 of $3500 is $350. Can you get a hot girl to spend the night with you in the States for $350? I doubt it. But even if you can, the ratios are pretty much the same.Just to clarify, Google gives a wrong answer, $1100 is not the average salary in Colombia it is around $450 a month.
Mr Enternational
07-12-23, 01:02
4. The same girls who charge $800 k cop for all night charge like $130-200 k cop for 1 HR, $800 k cop for 8+ hours is a bargain and I don't understand how you can think this is too expensive.It is only a bargain if you will be fucking her for 8 hours. If she is only sitting around and eating and helping you spend your money for 7 of the 8 hours, how could that be considered a bargain?
LoveItHere69
07-12-23, 01:46
I went to a Scotiabank ATM and they're now charging a 20900 COP fee for withdrawals. This is corroborated by another poster here. I guess this leaves BBVA and Davivienda as the only fee free national ATM networks in Colombia? Even though my card reimburses ATM fees, I feel their reimbursements are sometimes off and don't want to deal with it if possible.Yes, it appears to be true. I used the Scotia-Colpatria ATM at the Victoria Mall here in Pereira. Same fee. I and others have had issues with Davivienda.
You can dig even deeper and say well there is no Colombian person from the neighborhood she is from and with the education that she has making the AVERAGE. Pretty sure they are almost all making the minimum. But if she can get it, then why not.There is no need to dig deeper, because the ratios are still more or less the same. We got to compare apples to apples. If her neighbors are making the minimum, 300 USD, she gets 30-35% of that for TLN. In the States a girl can get 300-500 USD and up, and that would be the same percentage of the minimum wage.
The ATM conversion rate offers are unnecessarily confusing and it's intentional.I don't see anything confusing about the bank's conversion rate presented on the ATM. It's straight forward to me. If you want that rate, then accept it. If you don't want it, then decline it. Can you give an example of how it's confusing?
The bus and taxi rates have nothing to do with time of day. Why respond to my post and say the same thing using different words? As the moderator has stated a number of times, that's a waste of bandwidth.
It can happen if you are really unlucky. It's pretty much a game of Russian roulette. It all depends on how many flights arrive near the time of your arrival. Normal unpredicatable arrival delays make it hard to schedule around busy times. I don't remember every spending an hour on the immigration line. I've heard of passengers with document problems being detained for long periods but that's another issue.If you arrive 3 hours early, you'll fly through immigration and security, 15-20 minutes max.
If you arrive 30 minutes early, it will take a minimum of 20 minutes.
Mr Enternational
07-12-23, 04:41
I don't see anything confusing about the bank's conversion rate presented on the ATM. It's straight forward to me. If you want that rate, then accept it. If you don't want it, then decline it. Can you give an example of how it's confusing?Because it seems that if you do not accept then you can not get money. How many people would push accept if the truth was printed on the screen? "Push this button to give us a $20 tip. " Not many people are savvy when it comes to currency exchange. If they were then the ones throughout USA airports would have all closed down by now.
Mr Enternational
07-12-23, 04:58
There is no need to dig deeper, because the ratios are still more or less the same. We got to compare apples to apples. If her neighbors are making the minimum, 300 USD, she gets 30-35% of that for TLN. In the States a girl can get 300-500 USD and up, and that would be the same percentage of the minimum wage.The whole point is that you are not comparing apples to apples when you bring a random country into the discussion. The apples in country 1 (Colombia) have nothing to do with the apples in country 2 (USA). (Hell, you can not trust the apples of 2 cities in the same country to even be aligned.) Each country's apples have to stand on their own merit. If that was not the case one could easily ask why isn't the comparison made with Burkina Faso or Lichtenstein instead.
Because these boys be simpin'them.
It is only a bargain if you will be fucking her for 8 hours. If she is only sitting around and eating and helping you spend your money for 7 of the 8 hours, how could that be considered a bargain?
Before you pay for pussy. As your GF if she ever hoed out before. A paisa is a paisa.
Ok, so I have completed my second trip to Medellin and although I do not have a lot of experience I can certainly share what I have experience do have in Medellin. If you are a "Where the hoes at guy?" Skip this post.
I have a girlfriend in Medellin and I have not paid a prostitute in Colombia up to this date. Although I do find many of the posts in this thread to be quite informative. The ones challenging the amount that others pay for pussy or judgments of the quality of the prostitutes being hired is based on price if find to be quite useless. When the time comes to pay a prostitute I will report it here.
My experiences have been, 90,000 COP from city to MDE airport. Shout out to my ISG Brother who hit me on the back channel with the information of making a reservation with a taxi service. But, when I arrive, I have been being charged 120,000 COP for the ride into the city. Consistently. What I have been told is that after a certain hour the rate goes up. And let me tell you gentlemen, all the drivers are consistent. They would not budge at all. And I asked half a dozen different drivers and they all gave me the same price. But now I have at least found a driver that I trust. And when I hit him the day before to take me to the airport he showed up 45 minutes early and told me he would just wait down stairs until I was ready. I am finding that I need a solid 3 hours to check in, clear immigration and arrive at my gate on time.
ATMs have not been my friend. The exchange rate I got was horrible from the ATMs. What did find is the my credit card company gave me great exchange rates. That is not usually the case when I travel. Colombia is strange in that regard.
Yes, on my second trip I did that. I saw one as I exited before breaking right for the taxis. Thank you.
I have found the taxi out of the city to the airport to be 90,000 COP just as you said.
I have been using the account suggested since APPL was trading at 4. So thank you, it is excellent recommendation and I make it to others also.
I tried both and enjoyed both. Thank you for the suggestions. I have had a great time during my visits to Medellin. I find it to be a breath of fresh air compared to the Dominican Republic. A will organized city with strong infrastructure and domestically produced good of high quality. I shop and eat out in restaurants with my girlfriend almost everyday.
800000 COP is over two thirds of my rent each month in Medellin!
Think about that gentlemen. Being a high end prostitute pays well throughout the world. I addressed this in a post in another thread.
A while ago I posted about how to get taxi To and From airport and avoiding overcharge. You can make reservation from the official Airport taxi website or send them a message using whatsapp (+57 3137440680). Once you provide the Name, cell phone number, date, time and destination, you will receive a confirmation including the reservation number and the total cost.
https://acoataxiaeropuerto.com.co/You sure did brother and you also hit me on the back channel about it. I appreciate that. Reading comprehension is bad in the Medellin thread. I have clearly stated that the problem is arriving at 2 AM at the airport when dealing with Taxis at the airport. I have had no problem with the price getting to the airport and I have already developed a relationship with a driver and all he does is airport runs. I will look into the private car service using the apps. I am not taking the mother fucking bus. I am simply not that poor. Besides I can pay 40000 COP for pussy in El Centro instead of paying 800000 COP for a high end prostitute and use the difference to pay the 30000 overcharge (7. 32 USD) I am consistently getting when I take a taxi from the airport. I will look for the sign and point to it so see if it makes any difference. ROTFLMAO!.
Somebody challenged me that my posts are not related to "Sharing information on having sex with girls". After you arrive at the MDE you have to get to where you stay so you can have sex with girls no matter if you pay them or choose to put the work in and develop a relationship with one or many that is not completely based on money.
ATMs: You got to get cash to pay for your pussy. I have NEVER used anything else anywhere in the world my entire life to pay for pussy.
Before you pay for pussy. As your GF if she ever hoed out before. A paisa is a paisa.First of all, pussy is never free, you pay for pussy with money or you pay for pussy with money, time, energy, emotional frustration and heart ache. LOL! My girlfriend hoes out. And she part of the money she earns she spends on me! No monthly maintenance fees.
Expand your mind. Most relationships are open. The difference is that most men are not man enough to admit it!
I don't know what you heard about me
But a ***** can't get a dollar out of me
No Cadillac, no perms, you can't see
That I'm a motherfuckin' P.I.M.P. - 50 Cent, P.I.M.P..
Thanks for this info Sun. Have you been able to arrange a taxi with them for late night pickup like midnight or 1 AM? That's the only time I have a problem with the white taxis wanting more than the official rate because there is no line of taxis waiting for customers at that hour.Are you telling me that you pointed to the sign with the official rate and they didn't immediately start apologizing and telling you: "let me get the door for you massa. I gonna charge YOU da official rate massa. I don red or spell 2 gud massa?. ROTFLMAO!
For the record the two times I have quoted the fee of 120000 COP by half a dozen drivers it has been the exact situation that you describe. I routinely arrive after midnight. I don't write the airline flight schedules I just buy my ticket and be a the airport when they tell me to in order to board the flight so eat good, shop, use a ATM that is scamming and fuck my girlfriend in Medellin. Every trip has been a good trip..
I just tried going to the Check-mig site on my computer and cell phone, both show the site can't be found. Maybe it's temporary since another poster said he was on the site this morning.
I went to the Scotiabank-Colpatria ATM on the second floor of the Laureles Exito and verified if is now charging 20,900 pesos to withdraw 900,000.
I just tried going to the Check-mig site on my computer and cell phone, both show the site can't be found. Maybe it's temporary since another poster said he was on the site this morning.
I went to the Scotiabank-Colpatria ATM on the second floor of the Laureles Exito and verified if is now charging 20,900 pesos to withdraw 900,000.Are you coming to Colombia or leaving. I had too many problems using the Check-mig for arrival so I paid on www.ivisa.com.
I just tried going to the Check-mig site on my computer and cell phone, both show the site can't be found. Maybe it's temporary since another poster said he was on the site this morning.
I went to the Scotiabank-Colpatria ATM on the second floor of the Laureles Exito and verified if is now charging 20,900 pesos to withdraw 900,000.I tried using the App, and it couldn't find the site. I did a search and what looked like an official site came up, but then it came to a payment page. I backed out quickly. Next I went to the Migracion Colombia page.
Http://migracioncolombia.gov.co
That got me to the form and I was able to fill it out. At the end, on the final click, it said it couldn't process the request. I backed up, tried again, same result. However, within seconds I received 2 email confirmations.
Don't know if that will help.
That got me to the form and I was able to fill it out. At the end, on the final click, it said it couldn't process the request. I backed up, tried again, same result. However, within seconds I received 2 email confirmations.
I did it yesterday and got the same end point. It says that it didn't work but it had anyway. Really shltty slte. A government department should be ashamed to put visitors thru thls shlt.
Are you coming to Colombia or leaving. I had too many problems using the Check-mig for arrival so I paid on www.ivisa.com.I was leaving. I ending up doing what Jjbee62 described (search for check-mig Colombia). When I filled it out in English, it got to a point and said it couldn't finish. I tried both as a frequent traveler and as a normal traveler. I then tried filling it out in Spanish as a normal traveler, and it completed. I also left the arriving city as the default. I don't know if that had any bearing.
I was leaving. I ending up doing what Jjbee62 described (search for check-mig Colombia). When I filled it out in English, it got to a point and said it couldn't finish. I tried both as a frequent traveler and as a normal traveler. I then tried filling it out in Spanish as a normal traveler, and it completed. I also left the arriving city as the default. I don't know if that had any bearing.From the WTF division of Migracion Colombia, yesterday I did my CheckMig to leave, through the website and everything worked exactly the way it's supposed to work. Maybe they finally figured it out. Probably not.
JohnnyWalker55
07-20-23, 06:48
Never had any problems with Check mig before, maybe a slow loading page at most.
Flew out of palonegro international yesterday through avianca, filled out the form the previous day, they didn't even ask for it.
And for anyone else seeing this, the paid check mig is a scam. Do not pay money for that LOL.
Elvis 2008
07-20-23, 18:11
I did it yesterday and got the same end point. It says that it didn't work but it had anyway. Really shltty slte. A government department should be ashamed to put visitors thru thls shlt.I was 3 out of 4 with check MIG my last two trips. I flew American into Colombia and showed them the site was down, and they shocked me and handed me a paper copy I could use in place of check MIG. I never saw that before. LOL. I later tried the check MIG while in the Bogota customs line and the site then worked. Who the fuck knows why? The funny part is no one in Colombia asked for it.
Bogota customs line was 45 minutes in line coming in, and Cartagena was 20 minutes going out this time.
I was with a fellow traveler who had all the perks I knew. He used the VIP lane with Spirit like I did. He went to the Priority Pass lounge like I did and got free food like I did, but the one thing he had me beat on is that he had an expedited way through Colombian customs. This was for foreigners not Colombians. It was no big deal as the regular customs lines were short. I was just curious if anyone knew anything about that.
Mr Enternational
07-20-23, 20:17
I was with a fellow traveler who had all the perks I knew. He used the VIP lane with Spirit like I did. He went to the Priority Pass lounge like I did and got free food like I did, but the one thing he had me beat on is that he had an expedited way through Colombian customs. This was for foreigners not Colombians. It was no big deal as the regular customs lines were short. I was just curious if anyone knew anything about that.It is called Biomig. I posted about it last month in the general thread.
Biomig is now available for foreigners leaving the country out of Bogota.
https://www.opain.co/page/comunicados/comunicadosdetalle?id=4271
In my opinion there is such a thing as a non-pro. It means that you have to date her. Give her BFE and she gives your GFE. The relationship is not based on money alone. And don't give me that shit about this being a exclusive Forum about prostitutes. It is not. It is a Forum to share information on having sex with girls.
The description I gave are the type of relationships that I have focused on since I left the (Dis) United States of America. They exist and I have had them. And I don't give a fuck what anyone says about my posts about them.
No such thing as a non pro. If she'll see you she's a pro. As for anal. Ask how much, and if it's available she'll say a number. Go from there.
GeorgeCarta22
07-24-23, 05:18
Anyone have air bnb recommendations for 3 people. Looking for a nicer house.
PassportGuy
08-03-23, 14:08
So I'm taking the dive and heading to Medellin next week. I've done Cuba and cdmx with pretty good success but I'm looking for advice. Airbnb over hotel? I'm leaning towards Poblado or Laureles areas. I'm planning on 11 or 12 days, for the most part is that too long in Med? Upgrading membership today so I can get DM's on here. If anyone is going to be there during those time and wants to help a bro out it would be appreciated.
In my opinion there is such a thing as a non-pro. It means that you have to date her. Give her BFE and she gives your GFE. The relationship is not based on money alone. And don't give me that shit about this being a exclusive Forum about prostitutes. It is not. It is a Forum to share information on having sex with girls.
The description I gave are the type of relationships that I have focused on since I left the (Dis) United States of America. They exist and I have had them. And I don't give a fuck what anyone says about my posts about them.Perhaps I am speaking from my own point of view. But at my age I don't think there is any possibility that a woman in Colombia would want to date me other than for money. Sure, she may give a GF experience, but without money it is not going to happen. Perhaps your experience is different. But my question is always. Would it have happened without money? If so what is the woman looking for and why would she date you? If she is looking for a boyfriend and perhaps a future together, or just looking for a sexual encounter. Ok. Perhaps. But I say very unlikely.
But if you are experiencing relationships that are not money related. Great.
Perhaps I am speaking from my own point of view. But at my age I don't think there is any possibility that a woman in Colombia would want to date me other than for money. Sure, she may give a GF experience, but without money it is not going to happen. Perhaps your experience is different. But my question is always. Would it have happened without money? If so what is the woman looking for and why would she date you? If she is looking for a boyfriend and perhaps a future together, or just looking for a sexual encounter. Ok. Perhaps. But I say very unlikely.
But if you are experiencing relationships that are not money related. Great.You have thrown out your opinion before kand it sort of mirrors MiamiChild. Here are a few things to consider. Colombia is a machismo society. Men get almost all the high-paying jobs and women are expected to raise kids and work at the minimum wage jobs. That isn't a rule, there a myriad of exceptions but it is the commonplace reality. So??
The point is that women at least the women who grow up in the lesser economic stratas are taught to accentuate their looks to "catch a man". The most important thing isn't the man's age or looks but it is his ability to support the family.
You have the common misconception that the customs in the US are the same here and everywhere. They simply are NOT.
So, I don't know you. Are you old? (not so important) are you gross looking (I. E. Fat, bad dental hygiene, drop-dead ugly) can you speak Spanish? Are you cheap as hell? You'll answer those questions for yourself. But if you are in decent shape, speak Spanish and not afraid to spend at least a little money on gifts and going to restaurants and movies. You won't have much trouble finding non-pros who will be thrilled to go out with you.
Another thing to remember: Sex here is not a big deal. It isn't a major commitment. Girls here have been spreading joy (and hopefully only joy) since they were mid-teenagers.
Now to be fair. If you are mid-60's you might not get to date mid-20's girls. It isn't that it would have to be about money but you would have absolutely nothing in common and one or the both of you would get bored in a New York minute. But still. Dating young beautiful girls is not out of reach like you would experience in the US or Europe.
Perhaps I am speaking from my own point of view. But at my age I don't think there is any possibility that a woman in Colombia would want to date me other than for money. Sure, she may give a GF experience, but without money it is not going to happen. Perhaps your experience is different. But my question is always. Would it have happened without money? If so what is the woman looking for and why would she date you? If she is looking for a boyfriend and perhaps a future together, or just looking for a sexual encounter. Ok. Perhaps. But I say very unlikely.
But if you are experiencing relationships that are not money related. Great.You are ok and I am ok. And your experiences cannot be invalidated by mine. We are all speaking from our point of view, unless we are dealing in facts. Like who can or cannot use BioMag. In my opinion, your post leaves a lot open to interpretation. And that is good. I appreciate that you shared your insights. That is how I learn. And that is one of the two reasons I read and participate in ISG.
But at my age I don't think there is any possibility that a woman in Colombia would want to date me other than for money.Here is my interpretation of your post: At my age I am not interested in any woman in Colombia that would date me for something other than money. In other words, the girls you are interested in having sex with, are probably not interested in having sex with you for reasons other than money. Now if that is a incorrect reading, please put me in check.
I am not trying to get into your business, but someone like me (who happens to be pushing 60) has a long time girlfriend that is 34 and a new friend with benefits that is 21. Do they see me for money? You have to ask them.
But with my long time girlfriend I happen to KNOW without a doubt it is not about money. With my new young friend with benefits it remains to be seen. What I do know is that in my country of origin no girls of that age would even look at me from the side. That is the nature of my culture and I am happy to have found a culture where I am relevant again within the sexual marketplace without money being the main motivator. Additional fact, I can fuck girl younger than me in my country of origin with money being a motivating factor, but only at stratospheric amounts compared to my favorite countries to live and visit.
For me the real question is: Is your partner motivated solely or primarily for the money? Did you discuss the money up front? Have you ever told her that you cannot give her money and does she still have sex with you? Those are the questions everyone must ask themselves if they are concerned with that sort of thing. And I can tell you most assuredly that I am not. If individuals are just worried about busting a nut, then why all the self introspection? Men with real self awareness do not have to ask those questions. They know when a girl is fucking them for money and when they are not. How do they know? They can feel it. To quote my biggest hater out there "There is a big difference between when a girl is sucking your dick because she wants to and one that you are paying to do it". I don't agree with that mother fucker much, but I give credit where credit is due. And he is right. There are levels to it. And if your are perceptive you know the difference. You can FEEL the difference.
Sure, she may give a GF experience, but without money it is not going to happen.In my opinion, the concept of a girl friend experience is fake unless she is a real girl friend. You may get certain sexual services that you like. But you are paying for them. She is not kissing you because she actually likes you. You are paying her to kiss you. Yes, she is playing a role for you because she is getting paid. Porn stars and actresses on the big screen do that. It is fake. That is why people speak having girl friend experiences and I speak about girl friends.
Perhaps your experience is different. But my question is always. Would it have happened without money?Dam straight my experiences are different because I don't lead with money. At my age I have had enough pussy so that is not my main focus. I got plenty of pussy in my home country and all over the world without leading with money as young to middle age man and did not even bring money into the picture until I was 50 years old. That is why I feel sorry for the individuals that want to call me old and yet they are flying to Colombia and paying for their hotel room, their food, their pussy and yet they are young men. And on top of that they want to argue with each other over beauty standards and brag about paying attractive prostitutes to have sex with them. As if that was some sort of achievement. GTF! I do not have to ask myself would it have happened without money in the cases where money is after the fact instead of before in the normal prostitute situation.
I spend time with the girls that have an interest in that goes beyond sex. And I ask, no I require that they bring more to the table in my life than their pussy. Others may or may not want that. Man Law 101 does not allow me to comment on how any other real man runs his life. No man ought to be telling another man, who they should be fucking, how to spend their money or worrying about about a dick other than their own.
If so what is the woman looking for and why would she date you? If she is looking for a boyfriend and perhaps a future together, or just looking for a sexual encounter. Ok. Perhaps. But I say very unlikely.Real men don't give a fuck about that shit! After you bust a nut, are you really in the sex fog asking yourself those questions? I am not. And I don't give a fuck. I am enjoying, the pillow talk. Looking at the beautiful feminine form close to me. Thinking about the questions you listed after sex is like taking about world peace after putting smoke in the air. It messes up your buzz.
Example, my new friend with benefits actually discussed the nature of our relationship in the pre sex conversation. She stated up front that she was NOT looking for a boyfriend. That meant to me: "I'm cool with fucking you old man as long as nobody finds out I'm doing this shit". There was no money discussed. Until we were on the bed and she still had her clothes on and sexy heels on. Then the discussion was had about the expenses she needed to fund her birthday. She started high but then quickly stated that I didn't have to give her all the she needed for her birthday. I literally told her that we didn't have do do anything she didn't want. That if she did not want to have sex with me I was not going to pay her to do so. Her next response was to ask if I had condoms. And it was on from that point. Was the encounter based on money? Ask her. Because I can tell you that I don't give a fuck what you or ANYONE else posting here thinks. I did not ask the question after we BOTH got our nut. Natural wetness cannot be faked nor that pre and post orgasmic glow.
I will tell you Mr. Zeos that I am enjoying this classic discussion. It will never be resolved here. But I can tell you I have resolved it in my own mind. And when I bust my nut, my dick does not give a fuck. I am having too much fun to be worried about money. The most money ever paid to fuck was paid to my first ex-wife. Anyone who has been married going to tell me that is a relationship that is not money related. GTF!
Here are a few things to consider. Colombia is a machismo society. Men get almost all the high-paying jobs and women are expected to raise kids and work at the minimum wage jobs. That isn't a rule, there a myriad of exceptions but it is the commonplace reality. So??
The point is that women at least the women who grow up in the lesser economic stratas are taught to accentuate their looks to "catch a man". The most important thing isn't the man's age or looks but it is his ability to support the family.
You have the common misconception that the customs in the US are the same here and everywhere. They simply are NOT.
But if you are in decent shape, speak Spanish and not afraid to spend at least a little money on gifts and going to restaurants and movies. You won't have much trouble finding non-pros who will be thrilled to go out with you.
Another thing to remember: Sex here is not a big deal. It isn't a major commitment. Girls here have been spreading joy (and hopefully only joy) since they were mid-teenagers.
But still. Dating young beautiful girls is not out of reach like you would experience in the US or Europe.Mr. Villainy is dead on point with this post. I will only add the following:
Money is just paper that is not intrinsically worth anything anyway. My thoughts is I may as well give it away to someone in need that is doing something valuable for me in real life. And I plan to die broke. My last check is going to be to my undertaker and it is going to bounce. LOL!
You have thrown out your opinion before kand it sort of mirrors MiamiChild. Here are a few things to consider. Colombia is a machismo society. Men get almost all the high-paying jobs and women are expected to raise kids and work at the minimum wage jobs. That isn't a rule, there a myriad of exceptions but it is the commonplace reality. So??
The point is that women at least the women who grow up in the lesser economic stratas are taught to accentuate their looks to "catch a man". The most important thing isn't the man's age or looks but it is his ability to support the family.
You have the common misconception that the customs in the US are the same here and everywhere. They simply are NOT.
So, I don't know you. Are you old? (not so important) are you gross looking (I. E. Fat, bad dental hygiene, drop-dead ugly) can you speak Spanish? Are you cheap as hell? You'll answer those questions for yourself. But if you are in decent shape, speak Spanish and not afraid to spend at least a little money on gifts and going to restaurants and movies. You won't have much trouble finding non-pros who will be thrilled to go out with you.
Another thing to remember: Sex here is not a big deal. It isn't a major commitment. Girls here have been spreading joy (and hopefully only joy) since they were mid-teenagers.
Now to be fair. If you are mid-60's you might not get to date mid-20's girls. It isn't that it would have to be about money but you would have absolutely nothing in common and one or the both of you would get bored in a New York minute. But still. Dating young beautiful girls is not out of reach like you would experience in the US or Europe.Fair responses and I appreciate them. I am in my low 70's. I am fit, been told I am attractive, I communicate reasonably well in Spanish, and I am single. Divorced. I have been in a relationship where I don't doubt that the gal liked me, and certainly there was sexual chemistry for both of us. But she was not really interested in a future together other than one that looked a lot like a ho-customer relationship. So it was a bit hard for me to figure it out. I was ready to make her the one and only and help her along the way for a while, but I realized I was basically just a client, albeit an important one financially for a time. I don't particularly regret having helped her along the way as the money part is transient and I can't take it with me, and in a way I don't think she really set out to rip me off. She never really made any future suggestions nor would she even respond to hints that I might like a future together. I just think she was in a position where she saw she could only lose my support by telling me that she was not really keen on a future together, and she was also not keen on losing her support of other patrons and customers. And I can't really blame her for that. Anyway. I'll be fine.
But it leaves me thinking that these distinctions between pro and non-pro, and girlfriend versus whatever are all unique and all relative and yes, most of these girls need money for their kids and lives, but also some of them are truly liberated women and if you think about it not that different than mongers. They have rejected the monogamous role of faithful wife in the house, and will graze in the pastures of having lovers or contributors that help them on their way, but these people do not in any way own them. I guess I have called that "pro" but perhaps I should have clarified that it is not a negative necessarily.
Mr Enternational
08-06-23, 19:22
For me the real question is: Is your partner motivated solely or primarily for the money? The only people this is a question for are people that give their partners money. It amazes me what seems the amount of people that have never had a normal relationship where money was not involved. If a person can not see the difference between going to Hooters and ordering a meal for which they pay plus tip afterwards and going to their buddy's house when his wife has cooked Sunday dinner and going home without leaving "taxi money," then there is no hope.
Men with real self awareness do not have to ask those questions. They know when a girl is fucking them for money and when they are not. How do they know?Because if he is not giving her money then she is not there.
I guess there is a lifestyle for everyone to live. I have never lived one where I saw it essential to give a woman money if I wanted to have a woman. Yesterday I was joking with a chick that I mess with in Colombia. I told her that she never has time for me. She said you know I had to work all the time when I was living in Bogota, but I came to you the little time I had between work. She then said well if you want to take care of me then I will have more time for you and I will do whatever you say. I told her that I was neither interested in taking care of a grown woman or controlling one. I know that is some guys' thing, just has never been anything I had the desire or need to do when dealing with the opposite sex.
Fair responses and I appreciate them. I am in my low 70's. I am fit, been told I am attractive, I communicate reasonably well in Spanish, and I am single. Divorced. I have been in a relationship where I don't doubt that the gal liked me, and certainly there was sexual chemistry for both of us. But she was not really interested in a future together other than one that looked a lot like a ho-customer relationship. So it was a bit hard for me to figure it out. I was ready to make her the one and only and help her along the way for a while, but I realized I was basically just a client, albeit an important one financially for a time. I don't particularly regret having helped her along the way as the money part is transient and I can't take it with me, and in a way I don't think she really set out to rip me off. She never really made any future suggestions nor would she even respond to hints that I might like a future together. I just think she was in a position where she saw she could only lose my support by telling me that she was not really keen on a future together, and she was also not keen on losing her support of other patrons and customers. And I can't really blame her for that. Anyway. I'll be fine.
But it leaves me thinking that these distinctions between pro and non-pro, and girlfriend versus whatever are all unique and all relative and yes, most of these girls need money for their kids and lives, but also some of them are truly liberated women and if you think about it not that different than mongers. They have rejected the monogamous role of faithful wife in the house, and will graze in the pastures of having lovers or contributors that help them on their way, but these people do not in any way own them. I guess I have called that "pro" but perhaps I should have clarified that it is not a negative necessarily.Allow me to share a few other insights. First of all the woman you were "dating" was worried about losing the support of other patrons and customers. So, I think we can safely say she is a "pro" (a woman who makes her living renting her body") as opposed to a semi-pro who is far more selective and has a job or other support (possibly family) and only sees men she either likes or is attracted to and does this to augment her income. A non-pro is a little more nebulous. She might have friends who are semi-pros and she is emboldened to try it herself. She doesn't know what to do or how to do it or any of that. A good portion of the time she sees a man as a good provider, and a good person and she is interested in dating him. Sure she would like his help from time to time when she needs it but that is kind of normal in society. The fact that he might be older isn't really that important. After all her cousin Maria Camila (there are at least 500,000 Maria Camilas) married a widower who was 40 years older than her and they are happy together. (he is Colombian BTW).
I have a friend who lives here. He is mid-70's in decent shape and not exactly a Sean Connery look alike. He started dating Colombian women but chose women who were in their late 30's and 40's. He found that a number of these women are still very attractive (in other words they took care of themselves) and culturally they are the forgotten ones. Women who hit 30 are kind of supposed to be married or permanently off the market. Since Colombian men like their women young and beautiful these women aren't getting a lot of attention and my friend was scoring up more dates than he could handle. He found a woman in her late 40's and they have been together over 2 years now. She works and they are together most evenings and weekends. Might not be what you were thinking of for yourself but just a thought that bears consideration.
One other tidbit. Colombian women (especially paisas) are disinclined to tell you "NO" if you ask something that they don't really want to be involved with. The standard responses are: (A) Just ignore the question / offer and maybe he will forget it too. (B) Say "Yes" to be agreeable but she won't follow through at all and will stall or resist if you bring it up again.
Saying "NO" is by far the rarest response in the situation I mentioned. She would have to have a strong personality or be very confident in her 'grip' on your friendship (manhood jajaja). It just isn't their custom to respond negatively to a request.
Oddly enough, she absolutely will NOT see it the same way in the other direction. If you tell her you will do something she will verbally beat the living sh*t out of you if you don't live up to your promise.
I hope those insights are either of value or at least interesting.
But it leaves me thinking that these distinctions between pro and non-pro, and girlfriend versus whatever are all unique and all relative and yes, most of these girls need money for their kids and lives, but also some of them are truly liberated women and if you think about it not that different than mongers. They have rejected the monogamous role of faithful wife in the house, and will graze in the pastures of having lovers or contributors that help them on their way, but these people do not in any way own them. I guess I have called that "pro" but perhaps I should have clarified that it is not a negative necessarily.I am in 100% agreement with you on this. I have had this exact discussion with many girls. And they say the exact same thing. They don't want to be owned. In my experiences all relationships last only as long as both people get up and say yes. The moment one person says no, the relationship ends. Girls in the 20's still have hope. As they approach 25 -27 they start getting desperate to find their mate (as defined by the society they are in). After that they are washed up. They have tried for the approved societal relationships and failed to achieve them. Or they didn't last. Now they are being practical. That is why I ask girls I am interested in what their objectives are. I have just as much right as they do to reject them if they are not looking for the same type of relationship I am.
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Marriage: the relationship sanctioned by every society in the world. Involves the man giving money to the girl (with a few exceptions). I live in the reality of the real world. Not a fantasy world. And I will just leave it at that. Lastly, I do not care how anyone posting on this board get their girls. But money is involved. You can count on it!
Let's say I take a girl on vacation. I pay for the entire vacation. We have sex during the vacation. Was that free sex? Or was that paid sex? Enquiring minds want to know.
New Life used to be one of the go to places but for quite a while now those guys of a certain persuasion that travel in groups of 5 and more think it is a place to hang out and drink for hours and talking loud and laugh like hyenas while everyone else just wants to come and get laid.
These guys seem to know how to ruin a good thing anywhere.
New Life used to be one of the go to places but for quite a while now those guys of a certain persuasion that travel in groups of 5 and more think it is a place to hang out and drink for hours and talking loud and laugh like hyenas while everyone else just wants to come and get laid.
These guys seem to know how to ruin a good thing anywhere.Can you elaborate? Is this something special kind of code? Why are you hanging out for hours at New Life to verify that "guys of a certain persuasion" are hanging out there for hours? What does "of a certain persuasion" even mean? And if you're just there to get laid, why do you care what other people are doing in the waiting area? Go in, get a lineup, pick a girl and go get laid.
New Life, along with most of the better known casas have long been places where you were likely to encounter noisy foreigners. Many of the regular casa visitors avoid New Life because it seems to be the goto for the newbies.
JohnnieCash
08-12-23, 18:15
New Life used to be one of the go to places but for quite a while now those guys of a certain persuasion that travel in groups of 5 and more think it is a place to hang out and drink for hours and talking loud and laugh like hyenas while everyone else just wants to come and get laid.
These guys seem to know how to ruin a good thing anywhere.It's daytime hoar house serving alcohol and catering mainly to gringos not a church.
I do mind though when the loud Bros stay in my building and make a lot of noise late at night, having damn loud conversations in the hallways. Yes, we now all now you are from Miami and you are from Las Vegas and you don't give a fuck and how great it was in la Isla last night. But bro, normal people fucking live here. Keep it on the down low, bro. Even the dogs are asleep now bro. And chill the fuck out bro. We're all happy you finally fucked bro, but bro, was that really a reason to wake everyone up on Tuesday night, bro. Dafuk yall even doing here anyways, it's long fucking way from Poblado, bros. Are the prices there to damn high bro? Dang. Bro.
It's daytime hoar house serving alcohol and catering mainly to gringos not a church.
I do mind though when the loud Bros stay in my building and make a lot of noise late at night, having damn loud conversations in the hallways. Yes, we now all now you are from Miami and you are from Las Vegas and you don't give a fuck and how great it was in la Isla last night. But bro, normal people fucking live here. Keep it on the down low, bro. Even the dogs are asleep now bro. And chill the fuck out bro. We're all happy you finally fucked bro, but bro, was that really a reason to wake everyone up on Tuesday night, bro. Dafuk yall even doing here anyways, it's long fucking way from Poblado, bros. Are the prices there to damn high bro? Dang. Bro.Let me ask you a question JC: Have you ever complained to anyone that can actually do something about the problems you outline here? Like call the police? Report them to your landlord? Report them to building security? Confront them directly like a real man? Since they are your brothers even if you don't get along with your family you should be able to talk to them. LOL!
I don't have those sorts of problems in the building I stay in when I am in Medellin near any of the many apartments I have available to me. Maybe I am just operating on a higher level even though I am new to Medellin?
JohnnieCash
08-13-23, 17:05
Let me ask you a question JC: Have you ever complained to anyone that can actually do something about the problems you outline here? Like call the police? Report them to your landlord? Report them to building security? Confront them directly like a real man? Since they are your brothers even if you don't get along with your family you should be able to talk to them. LOL!
I don't have those sorts of problems in the building I stay in when I am in Medellin near any of the many apartments I have available to me. Maybe I am just operating on a higher level even though I am new to Medellin?Right, like I'm going to crawl out of my bed in the middle of the night, light up the place, dress up, and go out to get into arguments with bunch of obnoxious drunks. No thanks, good luck getting back to sleep after that. Sleep is my priority. After they informed everyone about their achievements and how great they are I was able to get back to my slumber anyway.
I'm sure if I was pissed enough it would provide a good motivation to do all that, but all arguments I have at my place is a broom stick at this point anyway.
But it thank my lucky starts they moved out right after that and it's back to normal since. Never been a problem with other airbb residents that stayed in the building somehow. Although they haven't probably been a sex tourists party types (got to start my own 'no sex tourists welcome' poster campaign in the building I guess LOL). But if it would be a repeated pattern of interruption of my sleep then you can bet your ass I'd try to do something about it, since I really really (really) hate not getting my sleep, whole damn day ruined.
As for all the 'bros' in my previous post I was paraphrasing how they talked to eachother.
And to think I held the front door open one of them to help move in his bags, we chatted a bit and he seemed cool and didn't even 'bro'd' me much. Must be a group situation that changes all that. Well next time I'll try to hold the door shut.
It's daytime hoar house serving alcohol and catering mainly to gringos not a church.
I do mind though when the loud Bros stay in my building and make a lot of noise late at night, having damn loud conversations in the hallways. Yes, we now all now you are from Miami and you are from Las Vegas and you don't give a fuck and how great it was in la Isla last night. But bro, normal people fucking live here. Keep it on the down low, bro. Even the dogs are asleep now bro. And chill the fuck out bro. We're all happy you finally fucked bro, but bro, was that really a reason to wake everyone up on Tuesday night, bro. Dafuk yall even doing here anyways, it's long fucking way from Poblado, bros. Are the prices there to damn high bro? Dang. Bro.Yes it is always the same sh-t conversation all day long "how dangerous their hood is". Why they think anyone gives a sh-t or why they feel compelled to announce it to the world all day everyday will remain one of lifes mysteries.
You don't have to be their for hours to know they are because every time you go they are there.
It gets tiring real quick for both customers and chicas having to ask them to repeat their names because the hyenas are talking and laughing so loud.
Chicas are now complaining about it because every time they line up and present themselves these dudes think they are there because they want to talk to them.
Incredible.
MongerHunger
08-14-23, 05:48
New Life used to be one of the go to places but for quite a while now those guys of a certain persuasion that travel in groups of 5 and more think it is a place to hang out and drink for hours and talking loud and laugh like hyenas while everyone else just wants to come and get laid.
These guys seem to know how to ruin a good thing anywhere.Never had that problem at New Life and hope to never encounter that.
If a girl is going to the salon and asks you what color you want for her nails, that is respect! And mutual respect is the base of all quality relationships.
New Life used to be one of the go to places but for quite a while now those guys of a certain persuasion that travel in groups of 5 and more think it is a place to hang out and drink for hours and talking loud and laugh like hyenas while everyone else just wants to come and get laid.
These guys seem to know how to ruin a good thing anywhere.Ask Walmart Walgreens cvs and all the other places that have to close now because of their retail theft.
TTM, I was trying to send you a private message but it says your inbox is full, so I'm going to copy and paste the message here in hopes that you see it LOL:
I know this is probably a long shot, but would you happen to be the same tall dude with gray hair that I met a couple times on separate occasions a year or two apart while having breakfast at the little hole in the wall breakfast place in Tijuana on Calle 4 ta and Revolution?
I know it's probably not you, but I've been wondering. I forget the guy's name but he always use to tell me about Colombia and Medellin and how it was so much better than Mexico LOL. This was like in 2016-17 ish while I was living in Tijuana before I started coming to Colombia.
Anyways if it's not you, my apologies.
I'm currently in Bogota but I'm going to head out either tonight or early tomorrow to check out the street meat in Pereira and then back home to Medellin.
Gabacho.
CowboyCheeba
09-13-23, 09:05
Hey guys first time going to MDE and CTG and have been reading a lot, but still had some curiosities.
I have read some guys post about these IG girls, and known models that usually ask 800 K to 1 million COP to see them.
Basically what's the best approach to find such girls? And has anybody had direct experience like this?
I'm willing to go quality over quantity so I want to make sure I know the possibilities.
Also how is mileroticos vs going to La Islas or Fase Dos -- I've tried to get some facebook activity going, but honestly so many profiles seems fake, not sure if that's the best route.
I whatsapped through a couple listings on mileroticos and was provided a simple menu of what's on the table. 320 K for "domicilio" which I assume is at my hotel.
Thanks for any help and feel free to inbox me!
The Tall Man
09-14-23, 17:33
TTM, I was trying to send you a private message but it says your inbox is full, so I'm going to copy and paste the message here in hopes that you see it LOL:
I know this is probably a long shot, but would you happen to be the same tall dude with gray hair that I met a couple times on separate occasions a year or two apart while having breakfast at the little hole in the wall breakfast place in Tijuana on Calle 4 ta and Revolution?
I know it's probably not you, but I've been wondering. I forget the guy's name but he always use to tell me about Colombia and Medellin and how it was so much better than Mexico LOL. This was like in 2016-17 ish while I was living in Tijuana before I started coming to Colombia.
Anyways if it's not you, my apologies.
I'm currently in Bogota but I'm going to head out either tonight or early tomorrow to check out the street meat in Pereira and then back home to Medellin.
Gabacho.Nope not me. Regards my PM, I have been a regular poster on these boards for over a decade but have given up trying to reinstate my paid sub, so PM does not work.
Also I do live in Medellin and have so many chicas both pro and UTR and civvies that I simply don't need or am on these forums much at all anymore, perhaps once a month, and it's a shame as I travel to every city in Colombia and know all the spots.
Regards Tijuana, it was my twice monthly hang out place from about 1997 through 2007 then every other month up until 2014 then my last visit was a few years ago, oh the memories some of which I will take to my grave, hehehe.
TTM.
This is a better thread for this discussion.
Nah you can't deny that quality has taken quite a hit over the last few years. I don't believe that it's because of rich oil sheiks buying up all girls LOL, although there's some truth there of course, mobility has gone up so girls can easily travel to Dubai and make 10 x more than what they make in Medellin.
But the MAIN reason is much simpler: Onlyfans. This platform is at least partly the problem. Normally one of the biggest factors determining your salary is the country you're in. A top doctor in Medellin doesn't even come close to what a top doctor in Dubai makes, just because they're working in different countries. However Onlyfans totally changed this, all of a sudden it doesn't matter anymore if you're from Dubai or Medellin, the hotter you are the more you make. So this makes it extremely interesting for hot girls from poorer countries. A hot girl can't make 100 k usd / month working at Parque Lleras. But they can with Onlyfans. Not saying this explains all of it, there are of course tons of girls not willing to make internet porn for obvious reasons. But it surely is a very important factor for the quality decrease over the last few years. Girls don't even need to have sex with total strangers anymore, they can make much more putting some rubber dildo in their asses in front of a webcam. Of course this is very tempting to quite a few and hence the increased popularity of this platform correlates with the decrease on the streets in Medellin, of that I'm sure.The average quality that I've experienced over the past few years has increased. However, that's because I've been doing things differently over the past few years. If I still did things the same way, went to the same spots and didn't try to improve things, the outcome may have been different.
Around 10 years ago the webcam explosion hit Colombia. 3-4 years ago the livestream and TikTok craze hit. OnlyFans is more recent, but before that Pornhub and others were providing the same options. All those things have a relatively small impact on the prostitution options. First some background, then I'll explain.
I spent a year working with webcam studios and models in Medellin. For most of the year my roommate was a successful webcam model (and she still is a successful model). For the record, there are probably less than 500 women in the world making $100 k per month on webcam, Onlyfans or any other adult online service and none of them went from street hooker to porn royalty.
The reason why webcam, TikTok and Onlyfans all have only a small impact is simple. They all require a work ethic.
Providing online content, adult or not, requires a lot of work. It's not something you can just do whenever you need money. With webcam, it takes a minimum of 6 weeks, 4-8 hours per day, 6 days a week, to start making any money. Usually it takes another 2 months to earn enough to start making a decent income.
Very few prostitutes have the drive to devote 3-4 months to the job. I know. I tried to explain it to them. They want to get paid, cash, after each show. That's the hooker mindset.
However, with cheap phones, the hookers have other options. Why hangout on the street when you can find better paying customers online?
JohnnieCash
09-19-23, 20:33
...there are probably less than 500 women in the world making $100 k per month on webcam, Onlyfans or any other adult online service... 100 k USD monthly is crazy money, but probably just 2 k+ USD monthly would be enough for Colombiana to take her out of the hooking market.
100 k USD monthly is crazy money, but probably just 2 k+ USD monthly would be enough for Colombiana to take her out of the hooking market.So the $ symbol referred to pesos many centuries before it referred to dollars.
So the $ symbol referred to pesos many centuries before it referred to dollars.Most of us weren't alive many centuries before the $ symbol was used to refer to dollars.
Also, pretty sure any girl working Parque Lleras can clear 100 k pesos per month.
100 k USD monthly is crazy money, but probably just 2 k+ USD monthly would be enough for Colombiana to take her out of the hooking market.Sure. Except in all but a very few cases the girl will need to work her ass off for 6 months or more before she makes $2 k per month.
Most of us weren't alive many centuries before the $ symbol was used to refer to dollars.
Also, pretty sure any girl working Parque Lleras can clear 100 k pesos per month.Well, are you alive now? Because $ still refers to pesos, as well as dollars.
Eustisflman
01-09-24, 00:12
Anyone used EOH airport in Medellin? I picked that for arrival over MDE since its closer to the city. I have never flown in or out of EOH, but banking on smaller airport means getting out quick and a shorter right to my Abnb.
Anyone used EOH airport in Medellin? I picked that for arrival over MDE since its closer to the city. I have never flown in or out of EOH, but banking on smaller airport means getting out quick and a shorter right to my Abnb.Good luck with that. If you're coming in from another city in Colombia, then you might be in luck, unless that city is Cartagena. EOH is only for domestic flights.
Mr Enternational
01-09-24, 11:38
Anyone used EOH airport in Medellin? I picked that for arrival over MDE since its closer to the city. I have never flown in or out of EOH, but banking on smaller airport means getting out quick and a shorter right to my Abnb.My buddy did recently and he loves it. He bought tickets from Bogota on that new airline.
Anyone used EOH airport in Medellin? I picked that for arrival over MDE since its closer to the city. I have never flown in or out of EOH, but banking on smaller airport means getting out quick and a shorter right to my Abnb.Yes I have used that airport a few times. I like the fact that I can get there on the metro just hop off at the Poblado station and it's about a 15 to 20 minute walk to the airport.
I used it when I went to Armenia and also when I went to Cali.
They only have smaller turbo prop airplanes there. The small ones that only seat about 20 people. The airline I always used going thru there was called EasyFly (it's called Clic now).
The terminal is very small but there is a Juan Valdez coffee inside there and when you board the flights you actually have to go outside. I always thought of it as an adventure.
They have flights to different regional airports in smaller towns that MDE doesn't offer so that's a plus if you want to fly into some small pueblo to explore the real side of Colombia.
-Gabacho.
Eustisflman
01-09-24, 13:14
Good luck with that. If you're coming in from another city in Colombia, then you might be in luck, unless that city is Cartagena. EOH is only for domestic flights.Why good luck? I am coming domestic and I know it only does. Same price to fly to either EOH or MDE so why not skip the big airport and the extended taxi ride.
Eustisflman
01-09-24, 13:17
Great and thanks for the info and figured it was OK to come in there. I am on Clic from BOG after I stay in BOG for a few days. Prices for my travel were 89 MCO to BOG or 250 MCO to MDE. Cheaper to return from MDE then BOG so I needed to get to MDE at some point.
Eustisflman
01-10-24, 21:36
Anyone know where in El Poblado I can get this and what the current costs are? Yes I know I don't need it for Medellin, I will be living in Ecuador and its expensive and hard to get where I live in USA.
Anyone know where in El Poblado I can get this and what the current costs are? Yes I know I don't need it for Medellin, I will be living in Ecuador and its expensive and hard to get where I live in USA.I got mine for free at the Centro de Salud Guayabal.
Any recommendations for a good place for a massage non gringo priced in centro or elsewhere and is there still any action on Mayorista at night anymore or is that a thing of the past now?
Guys who use Insta, Facebook, how do you message girls on these apps? Are you direct with your intentions in the very first messages? Like do you tell them you are gringo and you straight out offer to bang them for $, or you do some small talk first?I use Tinder. Works great.
I tell them there pretty and look like my type.
Then I leave my WhatsApp (Colombian#.
They contact me on whatsApp and I have one little paragraph I use.
If they bite I have a second one.
I'm looking for gals who will do videos and I'm up front as I can be as it helps to avoid problems when they show up.
I have about 25+ that will take a cumshot to the face with 3 cameras pointing at them.
I'd post more / better fotos but so restrictive on what. Any other place on the site for that?
I've spent 6 plus months down here over the last 15 months.
Elvis 2008
07-31-24, 18:07
Last sentence in the first paragraph: "it only applies to New York's Eastern District".The law is in flux IMO but there is reason to be optimistic. There were these two lines: The ruling theoretically applies to land borders, seaports, and airports but in practice, it only applies to New York's Eastern District.
And this one; The ruling stems from a criminal case against Kurbonali Sultanov, a naturalized US citizen from Uzbekistan, who was ordered to hand his phone over to CBP after his name triggered an alert on the Treasury Enforcement Communications System identifying Sultanov as a potential purchaser or possessor of child sexual abuse material. Sultanov, who said the agents said he had no choice but to unlock his phone.
So the CBP agent did not want to fuck with this, and neither would I. The only way I would do that is if some other agency had a gun to my head like in this case.
A cop told me the most discouraging thing he was ever told by a criminal was, "Man, do we really got to do this? I will be out on bail before you are done with your fucking paperwork. " And he laughed because time and again, the criminals were right.
I think the border patrol agents do not want to deal with going through your phone. The law is gray, and It is a too much of a fucking hassle.
The biometric scanning and passport scanning is a huge plus, but it only applies to exits. Even then, it is half the number of stamps in your passport. Like most of their non-US countries, Colombia stamps passports both coming in and going out and that is a lot of stamps. My passport is now full, four years before expiration. What a pain. I need to apply for a new passport.
They waved me over to the biometrics machines instead of seeing a human immigration officer. You scan your passport, look at the camera and it's done. Relatively quick. The security lines were also relatively quick. Total time for me from waiting to check in at the airline to waiting at the gate was about half an hour. Not bad at all. But my next passport should last much longer.
So I did survive another trip without any druggings or robberies.
It was a good trip. I saw the type of girls that I wanted to see for the amount of money that I wanted to pay and I got the type of performance that I expected. All these factors are different for every guy. But if you could satisfy these three factors for yourself on a trip, whatever your criteria, it is a successful trip.
I will say an obvious point. My eighth trip was much better than my first trip. I have to laugh now at all the mistakes I made on my first trip. I think that will be the way it will be for most guys. Expect to make mistakes and learn from it.
Like most of their non-US countries, Colombia stamps passports both coming in and going out and that is a lot of stamps. My passport is now full, four years before expiration. What a pain. I need to apply for a new passport.You need to get extra pages, not a new passport. When you get a new passport, request extra pages. It's free at that time, but you have to pay if you get them added after the passport is issued.
Mr Enternational
08-02-24, 14:50
You need to get extra pages, not a new passport. When you get a new passport, request extra pages. It's free at that time, but you have to pay if you get them added after the passport is issued.They stopped doing it that way years ago. You have to get a new passport now if you run out of pages before it expires.
You need to get extra pages, not a new passport. When you get a new passport, request extra pages. It's free at that time, but you have to pay if you get them added after the passport is issued.I had extra pages put in my passport twice and did not have to pay. Perhaps this has changed but I don't think so. But fewer countries give physical stamps now. The EU / Schengen does not, the US of A does not, El Salvador does not, etc.
Husker Dude
08-02-24, 15:02
You need to get extra pages, not a new passport. When you get a new passport, request extra pages. It's free at that time, but you have to pay if you get them added after the passport is issued.I don't think you can buy extra pages anymore. I ran into the same problem & had to get all new extra page passport.
So now just like with the BioMig argument we are now having a new argument about whether you can add pages to a passport or have to get a new passport. Classic Medellin Reports nonsense.
I don't think you can buy extra pages anymore. I ran into the same problem & had to get all new extra page passport.I learned something today. According to the Department of State website, they stopped adding pages on January 1, 2016. They state one of the reasons for stopping was to improve security. I don't understand that.
I stand corrected. Thanks.
I'd post more / better fotos but so restrictive on what.
.The last lady has a nice pair of buns.
I imagine have to dress up and do videos takes more time and probably costs more than an average sex date?
I use Tinder. Works great.
I tell them there pretty and look like my type.
Then I leave my WhatsApp (Colombian#.
They contact me on whatsApp and I have one little paragraph I use.
If they bite I have a second one.
I'm looking for gals who will do videos and I'm up front as I can be as it helps to avoid problems when they show up.
I have about 25+ that will take a cumshot to the face with 3 cameras pointing at them.
I'd post more / better fotos but so restrictive on what. Any other place on the site for that?
I've spent 6 plus months down here over the last 15 months.
GiraffyBoy
09-17-24, 22:46
Guys,
I keep seeing references to Instagram, so I just signed up today. Forgive my ignorance, but How do you find girls on IG that are in Colombia?
CowboyCheeba
10-02-24, 04:52
I use Tinder. Works great.
I tell them there pretty and look like my type.
Then I leave my WhatsApp (Colombian#.
They contact me on whatsApp and I have one little paragraph I use.
If they bite I have a second one.
I'm looking for gals who will do videos and I'm up front as I can be as it helps to avoid problems when they show up.
I have about 25+ that will take a cumshot to the face with 3 cameras pointing at them.
I'd post more / better fotos but so restrictive on what. Any other place on the site for that?
I've spent 6 plus months down here over the last 15 months.Is tinder your GO to for creating scenes?
I'm trying to gather some memories myself and most girls are very cautious with the photo taking. Last year each chica I saw was down with it as long as no face. Couple of them said, give me the phone I'll take it.
One was a massage girl who was a 9/10 and I needed to remember her, she was down with it for a little extra tip (50 k) - this was in CTG.
But trying to figure out how I can set this up. Looks like you are pretty successful on that front.
Sent you a PM as well.
Guys,
I keep seeing references to Instagram, so I just signed up today. Forgive my ignorance, but How do you find girls on IG that are in Colombia?Be very careful using Instagram or other similar platforms. There are many many chicas using that to meet and drug clients. I've met some of these people, it is real and it can be a bit sophisticated. But you have her to your place, and wake up 10 to 24 hours later with all of your stuff gone. And possibly security cam video of you helping to move your stuff out.
MikeBayArea
04-24-25, 04:23
Any recommendations on where I can access a gym, or temporary gym membership for my 10 day trip. I'm staying in El Poblando.
Any recommendations on where I can access a gym, or temporary gym membership for my 10 day trip. I'm staying in El Poblando.The gym that the Mansion used to sell passes for has day passes. I think the name has changed to Crew Wellness.
Any recommendations on where I can access a gym, or temporary gym membership for my 10 day trip. I'm staying in El Poblando.You in MDE right now? I'm looking for a gym as well. Will be there in a few days.
You in MDE right now? I'm looking for a gym as well. Will be there in a few days.That's why when I book my Airbnb or hotel I want one that has a gym (basic enough stuff) and also if they have a sauna. There is a public outdoor workout area in Parque Lleras on the backside. Some bars and so forth. I might use that a bit this time around. With a good workout I always get a good massage, Sports Massage Medellin I use and looks like they have cold plunge now.
Hey guys, anyone know of some nice chica friendly restaurants in the Poblado area where I can take a girl and they won't frown upon it? Maybe somewhere in Provenza or a few blocks from Lleras but where it's got nice food and ambiance. Man the face tattoos that these girls get really make it obvious.
For the restaurant, I'd like to find something on the level of a fine dining place. I've taken a girl to Belisario before but she spoke fluent English and was the classy escort type that could pass for a normal girl or even a tourist.
This girl I want to take out is a former Lleras girl I've met with several times who started her own business and is out of the game but she's still down to meet up. I would like to take her to a place like OCI. Mde but that place has huge signs that say no sextourism. And even though I probably could, I don't want to be judged there LOL. Anyone taken a girl to.
Mombasa.
Enso.
El Correo.
Carmen.
Or similar? Maybe just go to more of a casual place?
Manizales911
04-29-25, 20:41
and is out of the game but she's still down to meet up.
"out of the game but still down to meet up" = she's still in the game dude, smarten up for fucks sakes.
DiscoverFL
04-29-25, 21:04
Or similar? Maybe just go to more of a casual place?Tirrena Pasta. Best fresh pasta you've ever tried.
Restaurante IDílico. Great local food, uses Spanish style molecular gastronomy techniques.
Beárbaro Cocina Primitiva. These guys know steak, great drinks too.
Mekong. Nice Thai place.
Hanami Teppanyaki Sushi Bar. Personal favorite.
Alien Rooftop Lounge. This place makes Vegas fancy places look like a job, amazing food, amazing show.
Restaurante Gabo. Mde. Gabriel Garcia Marquez themed restaurant, great inspired food and drinks.
Alambique. Welcome to Medellin's Speakeasy style hidden resturants, amazing local food, huge portions.
Rocoto. Good peruvian food (tip: Poblado location is better food than Laureles location).
Cambalache Parrilla Argentina. Legitimate argentinian place imported meats and show on weekends.
Restaurante español El Payés. Legitimate Madrid style restaurant with great food.
My list goes on and on. All those places will welcome you and your date.
"out of the game but still down to meet up" = she's still in the game dude, smarten up for fucks sakes.I mean it's fine if she is. But she told me she hates doing this work and that she was saving up. Now her whatsapp number is a dog grooming salon and she posts stories and has a thriving instagram account for it. And she's in all the videos. Previously, her WhatsApp stories were sexy dances and whatnot. So she's either just part time with preferred customers or she's out of the game. I don't really care either way. Just thought it would be fun to go to a restaurant. So far she's not asked for money. I won't be surprised if I do end up paying her we'll see. If I do it's fine.
Dude thank you so much! Very very helpful.
Tirrena Pasta. Best fresh pasta you've ever tried.
Restaurante IDlico. Great local food, uses Spanish style molecular gastronomy techniques.
Berbaro Cocina Primitiva. These guys know steak, great drinks too.
Mekong. Nice Thai place.
Hanami Teppanyaki Sushi Bar. Personal favorite.
Alien Rooftop Lounge. This place makes Vegas fancy places look like a job, amazing food, amazing show.
Restaurante Gabo. Mde. Gabriel Garcia Marquez themed restaurant, great inspired food and drinks.
Alambique. Welcome to Medellin's Speakeasy style hidden resturants, amazing local food, huge portions.
Rocoto. Good peruvian food (tip: Poblado location is better food than Laureles location).
Cambalache Parrilla Argentina. Legitimate argentinian place imported meats and show on weekends.
Restaurante espaol El Pays. Legitimate Madrid style restaurant with great food.
My list goes on and on. All those places will welcome you and your date.
Have you been to Mombasa or Enso?
Tirrena Pasta. Best fresh pasta you've ever tried.
Restaurante IDlico. Great local food, uses Spanish style molecular gastronomy techniques.
Berbaro Cocina Primitiva. These guys know steak, great drinks too.
Mekong. Nice Thai place.
Hanami Teppanyaki Sushi Bar. Personal favorite.
Alien Rooftop Lounge. This place makes Vegas fancy places look like a job, amazing food, amazing show.
Restaurante Gabo. Mde. Gabriel Garcia Marquez themed restaurant, great inspired food and drinks.
Alambique. Welcome to Medellin's Speakeasy style hidden resturants, amazing local food, huge portions.
Rocoto. Good peruvian food (tip: Poblado location is better food than Laureles location).
Cambalache Parrilla Argentina. Legitimate argentinian place imported meats and show on weekends.
Restaurante espaol El Pays. Legitimate Madrid style restaurant with great food.
My list goes on and on. All those places will welcome you and your date.
Guys,
I keep seeing references to Instagram, so I just signed up today. Forgive my ignorance, but How do you find girls on IG that are in Colombia?It depends on how many followers they have usually if they have a lot they are not "working girls" in that sense. The best way to meet Instagram girls is when they leave address from Tinder and Seeking. That will give you a clue if P4P is available. There are 3 girls from Instagram I am going to fuck when I get there next week. It was work but worth it.
I met this girl from Tinder who had an Instagram but she was asking 600 k cop but non GFE. I passed on her as there are better options out there.
Ig diannapaolamunivv.
Mr Enternational
04-30-25, 13:40
There are 3 girls from Instagram I am going to fuck when I get there next week. It was work but worth it.Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
Solid list, you can't really go wrong on a date in any of the places around Manila. Gabo and Alambique are going to go over better with the girls if that matters.
Tirrena Pasta. Best fresh pasta you've ever tried.
Restaurante IDlico. Great local food, uses Spanish style molecular gastronomy techniques.
Berbaro Cocina Primitiva. These guys know steak, great drinks too.
Mekong. Nice Thai place.
Hanami Teppanyaki Sushi Bar. Personal favorite.
Alien Rooftop Lounge. This place makes Vegas fancy places look like a job, amazing food, amazing show.
Restaurante Gabo. Mde. Gabriel Garcia Marquez themed restaurant, great inspired food and drinks.
Alambique. Welcome to Medellin's Speakeasy style hidden resturants, amazing local food, huge portions.
Rocoto. Good peruvian food (tip: Poblado location is better food than Laureles location)..
Don't count your chickens before they hatch.I have already met one before. It's visit #17 so I won't have any problems.
It depends on how many followers they have usually if they have a lot they are not "working girls" in that sense. The best way to meet Instagram girls is when they leave address from Tinder and Seeking. That will give you a clue if P4 P is available. There are 3 girls from Instagram I am going to fuck when I get there next week. It was work but worth it.
I met this girl from Tinder who had an Instagram but she was asking 600 k cop but non GFE. I passed on her as there are better options out there.
Ig diannapaolamunivv.Oops, my bad I gave the wrong Ig it's: maketaladelsur
MikeBayArea
05-02-25, 13:32
I know this has been covered before. But what is the update on the taxi situation. I'm planning to use uber. Any tips / suggestions?
When ordering girls ubers I'd prefer to estimate and just offer them that money instead of going through the hassle of ordering for them and trying to communicate for them to find it. Any recommendations?
I know this has been covered before. But what is the update on the taxi situation. I'm planning to use uber. Any tips / suggestions?
When ordering girls ubers I'd prefer to estimate and just offer them that money instead of going through the hassle of ordering for them and trying to communicate for them to find it. Any recommendations?Uber is fine and you actually have the option of calling taxis through the uber app here. There are the normal uber US options plus Uber Ya (which is usually cheapest) and uber taxi which is just a taxi but you pay through the app like a normal uber. I do whatever is cheapest. Uber ya is basically the same as a normal uber it's just operating in a different way legally under Colombian law. You can also use an app called Indrive where you agree upon a price with a taxi through the app but pay with cash.
I would use an app rather than flagging someone down, even for a taxi.
Again, just follow the girls lead re paying for cars.
Husker Dude
05-03-25, 04:41
I know this has been covered before. But what is the update on the taxi situation. I'm planning to use uber. Any tips / suggestions?
When ordering girls ubers I'd prefer to estimate and just offer them that money instead of going through the hassle of ordering for them and trying to communicate for them to find it. Any recommendations?A lot of chicas use InDriver, it's cheaper.
Surf Looker
05-03-25, 04:59
https://www.instagram.com/kelly.giraldo.3762/
https://www.instagram.com/paz___paz/
https://www.instagram.com/malejagiiraldo/
Guys,
I keep seeing references to Instagram, so I just signed up today. Forgive my ignorance, but How do you find girls on IG that are in Colombia?
A lot of chicas use InDriver, it's cheaper.Uber is expensivw and longer delay. InDriver is cheaper but have to pay cash if I am correct. You can also use Didi with the credit card and cheaper like InDriver.
Mr Enternational
05-03-25, 16:33
The name of the app is inDrive. They dropped the final are.
I know this has been covered before. But what is the update on the taxi situation. I'm planning to use uber. Any tips / suggestions?
When ordering girls ubers I'd prefer to estimate and just offer them that money instead of going through the hassle of ordering for them and trying to communicate for them to find it. Any recommendations?Medellin chicas are notorious for being late. If you order an Uber for one and she's not ready within 4 minutes of the Uber arriving, then you're on the hook for a cancelation fee. It's not much, but why throw money away. If their only option is for me to pay for the taxi, I offer them 20 mil. Almost all will accept that. I usually compare rates between DiDi, Uber, and Cabify. At times either will have the lowest rate. I use DiDi the most, but recently a lot of the drivers will cancel after accepting. It's usually around 5 minutes after accepting that they cancel, so the wait starts over for another driver. Pretty frustrating, but that's the way of life in Medellin.
MikeBayArea
05-04-25, 21:41
Medellin chicas are notorious for being late. If you order an Uber for one and she's not ready within 4 minutes of the Uber arriving, then you're on the hook for a cancelation fee. It's not much, but why throw money away. If their only option is for me to pay for the taxi, I offer them 20 mil. Almost all will accept that. I usually compare rates between DiDi, Uber, and Cabify. At times either will have the lowest rate. I use DiDi the most, but recently a lot of the drivers will cancel after accepting. It's usually around 5 minutes after accepting that they cancel, so the wait starts over for another driver. Pretty frustrating, but that's the way of life in Medellin.Yeah I like that idea to offer an additional 20 k instead. I also hate all the back and forth, they are arriving now, this car, this license plate, etc, etc. It's a headache.
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