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World Travel 69
01-15-17, 22:53
Guys please post your other things you have to say here:

YippieKayay
01-15-17, 23:45
You've all seen my posts about my preference for bareback.

Recently, a chica I know got pregnant and her boyfriend confided in me that she always told him she could not get pregnant. I'm no expert on female fertility. The novio claims he used condoms mostly but she'd wouldn't make him do it so eventually he started going bareback. This really opened my eyes. My last trip to Colombia I ended up wifing up and barebacking this chica in Cartagena. She told me, as well, that she could not get pregnant. I remember asking her twice about this before doing the deed. She insisted she would need fertility meds to get knocked up.

I'm starting to connect the two together. Are these girls intentionally lying so as to get pregnant? Seems really fucked up.

JohnnyWishBone
01-16-17, 01:47
Guys please post your other things you have to say here:I was wondering if you or another senior member could set-up an FAQ type thread where members can easily find information about Medellin and Cartagena please? It would definitely help new members find info and also reduce repeated questions.

Combo
01-16-17, 02:31
You've all seen my posts about my preference for bareback.

Recently, a chica I know got pregnant and her boyfriend confided in me that she always told him she could not get pregnant. I'm no expert on female fertility. The novio claims he used condoms mostly but she'd wouldn't make him do it so eventually he started going bareback. This really opened my eyes. My last trip to Colombia I ended up wifing up and barebacking this chica in Cartagena. She told me, as well, that she could not get pregnant. I remember asking her twice about this before doing the deed. She insisted she would need fertility meds to get knocked up.

I'm starting to connect the two together. Are these girls intentionally lying so as to get pregnant? Seems really fucked up.Could be. Between STDs and pregnancy, there's plenty of incentive to use condoms. Some solve solve the second issue by getting a vasectomy.

YippieKayay
01-17-17, 02:30
A non-pro from Medellin wants to come with me to Cartagena next week. I already got a cheap ticket off Avianca and it's non refundable; however I've never fucked this girl, and she's totally just hanging out with me so she can get a free trip to the see. She claims she has never been to a beach.

I'm torn between being mr nice guy and going along with it, or cancelling on her because I realize I won't be able to monger worth shit with her around.

Monger problems.

JjBee62
01-17-17, 03:23
A non-pro from Medellin wants to come with me to Cartagena next week. I already got a cheap ticket off Avianca and it's non refundable; however I've never fucked this girl, and she's totally just hanging out with me so she can get a free trip to the see. She claims she has never been to a beach.

I'm torn between being mr nice guy and going along with it, or cancelling on her because I realize I won't be able to monger worth shit with her around.

Monger problems.It's only Monday. Surely you can figure out how to rectify the "never fucked me" issue.

World Travel 69
01-17-17, 03:46
It is at the top of this page.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/faq.php


I was wondering if you or another senior member could set-up an FAQ type thread where members can easily find information about Medellin and Cartagena please? It would definitely help new members find info and also reduce repeated questions.

Routard
01-17-17, 14:31
A non-pro from Medellin wants to come with me to Cartagena next week. I already got a cheap ticket off Avianca and it's non refundable; however I've never fucked this girl, and she's totally just hanging out with me so she can get a free trip to the see. She claims she has never been to a beach.

I'm torn between being mr nice guy and going along with it, or cancelling on her because I realize I won't be able to monger worth shit with her around.

Monger problems.Cartagena is a great place for vacation, but regarding mongering it's poor compared to Bogota, Medellin or Cali: prices are sky high, girls are not pretty and service is poor. The place is spoilded by tourists. It might be a mongering option for tourists that combine both, but coming from Medellin to go to monger in Cartagena is a no sense. Just go on week-end with that girl, relax and enjoy Cartagena and leave mongering for when you are in Medellin. And hey, if the girl insists on going with you, it's simply impossible she will not have sex with you during that week-end.

YippieKayay
01-17-17, 20:26
Cartagena is a great place for vacation, but regarding mongering it's poor compared to Bogota, Medellin or Cali: prices are sky high, girls are not pretty and service is poor. The place is spoilded by tourists. It might be a mongering option for tourists that combine both, but coming from Medellin to go to monger in Cartagena is a no sense. Just go on week-end with that girl, relax and enjoy Cartagena and leave mongering for when you are in Medellin. And hey, if the girl insists on going with you, it's simply impossible she will not have sex with you during that week-end.I'm the opposite. I prefer mongering in Cartagena, and recently we had a discussion on pricing there. It's not too different unless you're are comparing it to casa prices in Medellin and Bogota (I'm not into Casas). I won't be taking her. She's a cute girl but by all accounts just wants to mooch off me and I'm not into her enough to fuck her.

By the first night in Cartagena I hope to wife up with a fat ass morena and try out some anal. I like to make these trips into special projects.

JuveCar
01-18-17, 04:51
I am at the airport right now, going back to Seattle. I found this web page Colombiangfe.com and I found some girls from Colombia, escorts offering a real girl friend experience. That is what they said.

I arrived to Medellin and the girl from the website was waiting for me. It is true, is unbelievable, you can actually see the faces of the model.

I have to catch my fly, I will write more later.

JjBee62
01-18-17, 15:45
I am at the airport right now, going back to Seattle. I found this web page Colombiangfe.com and I found some girls from Colombia, escorts offering a real girl friend experience. That is what they said.

I arrived to Medellin and the girl from the website was waiting for me. It is true, is unbelievable, you can actually see the faces of the model.

I have to catch my fly, I will write more later.I was wondering when the next shill would come along to advertise their rip-off escort services here. It has been awhile.

If they actually provided the service they promise, they wouldn't need to come here and lie about the service.

JuveCar
01-18-17, 22:08
I was wondering when the next shill would come along to advertise their rip-off escort services here. It has been awhile.

If they actually provided the service they promise, they wouldn't need to come here and lie about the service.Sorry, I didn't lie.

I contact the number, I asked for one girl and she was there hours later, knocking my door, the same girl of the web, body and face. She was very nice very polite and just a that moment I gave her the money. I didn't pay anything to the web or to any other person, just to the model.

JjBee62
01-19-17, 04:45
Sorry, I didn't lie.

I contact the number, I asked for one girl and she was there hours later, knocking my door, the same girl of the web, body and face. She was very nice very polite and just a that moment I gave her the money. I didn't pay anything to the web or to any other person, just to the model.Going to have to call bullshit on that one. Your syntax says English is not your native tongue, and you're certainly not from Seattle. That's strike 1.

You had only 2 posts, basically identical, on 2 Medellin threads, both promoting an escort agency. That's strike 2.

No other posts. No "I'm coming to Medellin", or "can anyone help with. " No review of anything at all except 1 escort agency. That's strike 3.

You see American tourists don't come to ISG, post 2 ads for the same escort agency and nothing else. They ask questions, they tell about their experiences, they brag, or complain. At the very least they will give some sort of introduction.

If you want to advertise your business, pay for an advertisement.

JuveCar
01-19-17, 13:22
Going to have to call bullshit on that one. Your syntax says English is not your native tongue, and you're certainly not from Seattle. That's strike 1.

You had only 2 posts, basically identical, on 2 Medellin threads, both promoting an escort agency. That's strike 2.

No other posts. No "I'm coming to Medellin", or "can anyone help with. " No review of anything at all except 1 escort agency. That's strike 3.

You see American tourists don't come to ISG, post 2 ads for the same escort agency and nothing else. They ask questions, they tell about their experiences, they brag, or complain. At the very least they will give some sort of introduction.

If you want to advertise your business, pay for an advertisement.Yes you are right, I am from Italy, I am an engineer at Boei. And no, is not my web page.

Jack Jericho
01-19-17, 17:54
I'm starting to connect the two together. Are these girls intentionally lying so as to get pregnant? Seems really fucked up.Oh yes they do. Paternity and child support laws not only in Colombia but in all of South America mean that, if a girl gets knocked off by a solvent guy (not even a rich guy, just solvent by American standards) and she can prove it, her life is solved, at least money-wise.

Always, always, always distrust a girl who says she cannot get pregnant.

YippieKayay
01-20-17, 15:30
Oh yes they do. Paternity and child support laws not only in Colombia but in all of South America mean that, if a girl gets knocked off by a solvent guy (not even a rich guy, just solvent by American standards) and she can prove it, her life is solved, at least money-wise.

Always, always, always distrust a girl who says she cannot get pregnant.I've heard it's the other way around in Colombia. A girl is lucky if she can ever get child support. This would make purposefully getting pregnant a really stupid move.

The Cane
01-20-17, 15:37
I've heard it's the other way around in Colombia. A girl is lucky if she can ever get child support. This would make purposefully getting pregnant a really stupid move.I've known many a Colombian girl with child, and I can assure you. A ton of them aren't getting jack shit in terms of support from the baby's daddy! More the rule than the exception. So, I'm with you on this.

Combo
01-20-17, 16:02
I've heard it's the other way around in Colombia. A girl is lucky if she can ever get child support. This would make purposefully getting pregnant a really stupid move.From what I understand, child support laws are not applied very strongly in Colombia. They are about where the US was a few decades ago.

However, with a Gringo, she can hire an attorney who can work with a USA Attorney to go after you. Most of the girls probably aren't sophisticated enough to do this, but it has happened (I know of one case personally).

Jack Jericho
01-20-17, 17:09
From what I understand, child support laws are not applied very strongly in Colombia. They are about where the US was a few decades ago.

However, with a Gringo, she can hire an attorney who can work with a USA Attorney to go after you. Most of the girls probably aren't sophisticated enough to do this, but it has happened (I know of one case personally).It always comes down to money. If the girl gets knocked up by her just-as-poor-as-she Colombian boyfriend, it probably isn't worth the money to try to get any money from him.

This is a risky hobby, mongering, but we are all adults and every one of us can decide the risk level he is willing to take. Pregnancy not being the only one nor the worst. Besides, being a BB sex fan myself, I'll be the last one to throw a stone. I just point to a simple fact of which I have a couple examples.

YippieKayay
01-20-17, 22:24
To be honest, whether the laws were enforced or not I couldn't abandon a kid in some other country. I just don't want to have to raise it with a lying puta.

Sailor Jim
01-28-17, 22:35
A non-pro from Medellin wants to come with me to Cartagena next week. I already got a cheap ticket off Avianca and it's non refundable; however I've never fucked this girl, and she's totally just hanging out with me so she can get a free trip to the see. She claims she has never been to a beach.

I'm torn between being mr nice guy and going along with it, or cancelling on her because I realize I won't be able to monger worth shit with her around.

Monger problems.Going with her you have a 50/50 shot of having a great time. Perhaps less. Going solo your odds approach well over 80%. And you don't have to pay extra airfare and double all your meals, drinks expenses.

Don't get me wrong, I love travelling and going to the beach and out to dinner, but if I am taking on the expense (more of my time = having a good one, than money) I want to be with someone who totally rocks with me, then plan the vaca with her in mind. We both know what we're getting and that's cool etc. Otherwise solo it is.

You made these plans from the get go for solo and you were OK with that at the time. It should still be good now. Or if you think you can turn her into the perfect "what you want in a sexy travel partner" before you go there's always that option. JMHO.

Sailor Jim
01-28-17, 22:45
Oh yes they do. Paternity and child support laws not only in Colombia but in all of South America mean that, if a girl gets knocked off by a solvent guy (not even a rich guy, just solvent by American standards) and she can prove it, her life is solved, at least money-wise.

Always, always, always distrust a girl who says she cannot get pregnant.Sage advice.

The top 5 reasons most paisas can't / don't go after child support:

5.) They don't know who the father is.

4.) They don't know where the father is.

3.) They know where the father is but he's jobless.

2.) They know where the father is and know he has a job but it's low paying and under the table. No legal recourse.

1.) Orgullo / pride.

YippieKayay
02-08-17, 01:09
Going with her you have a 50/50 shot of having a great time. Perhaps less. Going solo your odds approach well over 80%. And you don't have to pay extra airfare and double all your meals, drinks expenses.

Don't get me wrong, I love travelling and going to the beach and out to dinner, but if I am taking on the expense (more of my time = having a good one, than money) I want to be with someone who totally rocks with me, then plan the vaca with her in mind. We both know what we're getting and that's cool etc. Otherwise solo it is.
I went on my own to Cartagena and fucked on average two girls a day. Had a swell time. I told the chica I wasn't going due to a last minute emergency at work. I lied basically, but whatever.

Fast forward two weeks later she sends me photos of her trip to San Andres island, and tells me it's so great there, and that she's having fun. I nicely tell her to enjoy herself. Then she starts asking where I am, so I tell her I'm back home. She asks if I'm coming down to Colombia and asks if I'll be coming alone. I tell her soon (probably not until April / May). The thing that bugs me is how she's trying to hitch a ride with me. Her looks aren't bad, but not really what I'm looking for. She's early 20's, slim, with a small booty and reasonable breasts.

I tried forming some kind of normal connection with her but she's very passive. The only time she asks anything is when I'm going to see her next. I never fucked her, and only hung out with her for one day back when I was in Medellin last year. As far as I can tell she's not a prepago in anyway. Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if some other gringo took her to San Andres. It's like a disease with some of these young Colombian women. They want to enjoy themselves and use gringos as meal tickets.

I want to have a travel partner, I can fuck, and enjoy myself with, but they should at least put some effort into winning me over, other than constantly trying to guilt me into a free trip.

Unico11
02-25-17, 18:15
I keep reading about the Mansion 1 and 2, but haven't ran across the info to find out more about the stay, rates, or location. Can someone PM or post this info for me?

Thanks.

Fun Luvr
02-26-17, 04:03
I keep reading about the Mansion 1 and 2, but haven't ran across the info to find out more about the stay, rates, or location. Can someone PM or post this info for me?

Thanks.Here is a link to their website: http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/about.html.

If you look a few threads down from this thread, you will see "Casa Blanca Medellin". That is the Mansion. You can find some more info there.

Villainy
04-17-17, 23:43
I recently made my first trip to Medellin. I want to share some of the information and learning experiences I encountered. First if you are preparing your trip, I recommend you purchase Patrick Jonesie's "Gentleman's Guide to Medellin" it's cheap and it will save you hours of reading the forum (which you should do anyway).

The first item to tackle is making reservations to fly there. I flew from a non-major West coast city and made my own bargain by booking the main flight from a major hub and then booking a separate flight from my city to the hub. I saved almost $250 by doing it this way. Sometimes those anomalies exist and sometimes they don't. Your situation may or may not warrant looking at the possibility.

First screw up! I mapped all the banks in El Poblado around where I was staying. I was concerned about getting cash from ATMs (called cajeros). I didn't see any at the airport (but I know they are there because I saw several on my return flight visit). I hit a cambio and got an awful rate. I knew the cab ride was $75 mil so I exchanged $40 US. Here are the tips. If you are arriving during the day there is a bus that will take you to el centro for a few bucks (US) and from there you can take a cab anywhere and have a huge savings vs the $75 mil from the airport. Second, if you are arriving late or don't want to f' with the bus. The cabs will be happy to stop in El Poblado (or wherever) and let you hit a cajero and pull money. BTW there was no need to map out banks, on 43 A (the main drag which as it goes further South is called El Poblado Avenida) has 2 or 3 cajeros every block. Oh and after you put in your ATM card and pin #, it offers you the choice of continuing in English or Spanish. (I hit 6 different ones during my trip and they all offered that choice).

The Mansion? Or on your own. I did not choose to stay at the Mansion. For a first time visitor with limited (or non-existent) Spanish and wanting to have everything easily available and the camaraderie at hand, maybe that is a winning choice. Just know that the rack rate is at least double what you would find in other places (and I mean guest-friendly places) the only difference is you will need at least basic Spanish and you'll have to call your talent in on your own. To me, it was an easy choice. I'm working on my Spanish and considering Medellin as a retirement spot. I wanted the Spanish practice and I wanted to see how I would fare on my own.

A few tips. Make copies of your passport. Once you are in your room, put your passport and credit cards in the safe. You can go out with the copies of your passport and just enough cash (and a little extra) to handle what you expect you'll need. No reason to amplify any risks and certainly not on one of your first visits.

Traffic is crazy in Medellin. Take a cab DO NOT rent a vehicle. Cabs (once you're in Medellin) are dirt cheap. (So are buses) OH. Do NOT slam the doors the cab drivers will run you over. Just push the door to a closed position.

I also suggest you walk around and get to know the layout. I enjoyed it and El Poblado is like any modern US city. Very modern. Parque Lleras is over hyped. I saw too many men wearing shorts (clearly Gringos, since Colombians don't wear shorts unless they are at the beach). Lleras seems like the ex-pat hangout. I was looking for more authentic experiences and avoided the place.

They have a very efficient metro (but it's always going to require some serious walking, so be prepared) and the Metro-Cable gondala cars that go up the sides of the mountains are amazing! Make sure you have the time to do this and if you need to hire a guide, it's still worth it. (Spanish comes in handy here. I was absolutely unable to communicate at a sufficient level but sure as hell, I got off at the right stop and the Policeman sent me in the right direction and I made it work, which means you can too).

I also did a 4 hour walking tour of el centro (called "Real City Tours" which is donation only and very interesting and worthwhile).

OK you're probably not coming to Medellin to checkout the history and retirement potential so let's talk about the real reason you're going there.

I booked my dates through FaceBook (and two others through Tinder). FaceBook is most relevant because of the large number of pointers and suggestions here on the board. You will need to have some basic level of Spanish. I know you're really smart and can manage google-translate but it takes too long and your girls will lose interest quickly if the conversation has too many delays. Oh and Google Translate and other apps are too word for word specific and don't really do a good job of translating the essence of what you are trying to say or understand. Basic Spanish will reward your effort more than you can believe possible.

If I had it to do over again (and I'm working on my next visit as we read / write) I would visit a number of the better casas on Avenida 33 in Laureles. (Unless I can get one of the masters to accompany me on a casa hunt in el centro). Laureles is safe, more expensive with lots of great beauties (or so I hear). So that is my plan for the next visit.

You should be able to pull great girls from Facebook but you'll have to work it. I mean let them know in advance you're visiting. (Don't expect long conversations, they don't want to waste their time until you're in the city). Once here, post some Medellin pictures on your FB homepage to let your "friends" know you've arrived and start to work. You'll pay more for a FaceBook prepago than you would in a casa but you should be able to pre-arrange your needs and her needs (something I didn't always do on my first trip and while it generally worked exactly as I hoped, there were a few disappointments). P4P is legal in Colombia (over the age of 18 and don't you even begin to think that 18 is a guideline and not a rule. You seriously do not want to find your ass in a Colombian prison, hoping that Donald Trump will pull you out. Because he won't). So since P4P is legal girls are not paranoid about clarifying what they want out of the visit and what you want out of the visit. This is a serious adjustment vs. The US where you both would be dealing with illegalities.

I recommend staying away from 'drugs' but I'm not a user so you are on your own in that department. If you would like to make sure you're 'up to the occasion' you might bring your needs with you. ED drugs in El Poblado are not as inexpensive even in the generic as I thought. Probably should have tried to price them in Envigado or other spots. Others may have good ideas where to find the bargains but all the "Drogerias" I tried in El Poblado were way too expensive for my tastes. (Luckily that was just a fact-finding excursion, since I brought my own stash).

I also suggest you bring your own condoms of choice. Why? Some girls won't bring them and will not go without, which will cause a problem. Besides some of the Colombian brands are too small and might make things uncomfortable. It's cheap, bring your own.

OK synopsis of my trip. I saw a bunch of FaceBook girls. Most asked what I was going to spend. I universally gave this answer:

$150 mil + taxis. Una Vez - 1-2 horas $150 mil - 1 time - 1-2 hours.

$200 mil + taxis. Dos Veces - 2-3 horas $200 mil - 2 times - 2-3 hours.

$300 mil + taxis - ? Veces - 6-8 horas $300 mil - ? Times - 6-8 hours.

Debes traer tu cedula. You must bring your ID.

Mi hotel es conservativa, por favor, te pones la ropa conservativa. My hotel is conservative, please wear conservative clothes.

I met very little resistance to this. One girl insisted she wanted $200 mil for 1 time 1-2 hours but she agreed to cover her own transportation. She had a very good rep so I did it but it wasn't one of my best sessions either.

OH, not a single girl asked to be paid up front. I would absolutely have sent them home (with taxi money) if they had insisted on this. This has been discussed in the forum and it's a clear absolute. You lose all control when you pay up front. Clearly you don't want to do this and sending a girl home is a preferable option even if it doesn't seem like it at the time. Luckily I never, once faced this issue.

I made my first trip 2 1/2 weeks, because air-fare is expensive. But I had a cold and was pretty much staying in my room the first 2-3 days. I think 10 days to 2 weeks is a satisfactory time range for a visit. If you reach your fill of sport-fucking the trip could drag. But if you like visiting museums and historical spots you certainly have enough to fill as much time as you would like.

If you visit a nice restaurant be warned that they might very well add "Propina" (which is 'standard gratuity' A lot of the places will ask you if that is OK? You might not understand the question in rapid-fire Spanish. Just look at the bill closely. If you see a line item "Propina" just know that you've already paid part (or all) of the tip and not to pay twice. My experience with the nicer restaurants (nicer meaning = more expensive) was that they added a 10% propina. Colombian tipping is different. 10% is generous / more than sufficient. You won't need or want to add anything to that. BTW Cab rides will not expect a tip at all, they will be delighted if you just round up the fare to the nearest Mil. (Cab fare = 8,650 and you pay them 9,000 (9 mil) They will be very happy.

Don't be too afraid to make mistakes, it's inevitable. You can't help but have a great time. So, relax and enjoy! And most important of all, take notes every night and write up a trip-report when you're finished.

JjBee62
04-18-17, 12:10
I recently made my first trip to Medellin. I want to share some of the information and learning experiences I encountered. First if you are preparing your trip, I recommend you purchase Patrick Jonesie's "Gentleman's Guide to Medellin" it's cheap and it will save you hours of reading the forum (which you should do anyway).

The first item to tackle is making reservations to fly there. I flew from a non-major West coast city and made my own bargain by booking the main flight from a major hub and then booking a separate flight from my city to the hub. I saved almost $250 by doing it this way. Sometimes those anomalies exist and sometimes they don't. Your situation may or may not warrant looking at the possibility.

First screw up! I mapped all the banks in El Poblado around where I was staying. I was concerned about getting cash from ATMs (called cajeros). I didn't see any at the airport (but I know they are there because I saw several on my return flight visit). I hit a cambio and got an awful rate. I knew the cab ride was $75 mil so I exchanged $40 US. Here are the tips. If you are arriving during the day there is a bus that will take you to el centro for a few bucks (US) and from there you can take a cab anywhere and have a huge savings vs the $75 mil from the airport. Second, if you are arriving late or don't want to f' with the bus. The cabs will be happy to stop in El Poblado (or wherever) and let you hit a cajero and pull money. BTW there was no need to map out banks, on 43 A (the main drag which as it goes further South is called El Poblado Avenida) has 2 or 3 cajeros every block. Oh and after you put in your ATM card and pin #, it offers you the choice of continuing in English or Spanish. (I hit 6 different ones during my trip and they all offered that choice).

The Mansion? Or on your own. I did not choose to stay at the Mansion. For a first time visitor with limited (or non-existent) Spanish and wanting to have everything easily available and the camaraderie at hand, maybe that is a winning choice. Just know that the rack rate is at least double what you would find in other places (and I mean guest-friendly places) the only difference is you will need at least basic Spanish and you'll have to call your talent in on your own. To me, it was an easy choice. I'm working on my Spanish and considering Medellin as a retirement spot. I wanted the Spanish practice and I wanted to see how I would fare on my own.

A few tips. Make copies of your passport. Once you are in your room, put your passport and credit cards in the safe. You can go out with the copies of your passport and just enough cash (and a little extra) to handle what you expect you'll need. No reason to amplify any risks and certainly not on one of your first visits.

Traffic is crazy in Medellin. Take a cab DO NOT rent a vehicle. Cabs (once you're in Medellin) are dirt cheap. (So are buses) OH. Do NOT slam the doors the cab drivers will run you over. Just push the door to a closed position.

I also suggest you walk around and get to know the layout. I enjoyed it and El Poblado is like any modern US city. Very modern. Parque Lleras is over hyped. I saw too many men wearing shorts (clearly Gringos, since Colombians don't wear shorts unless they are at the beach). Lleras seems like the ex-pat hangout. I was looking for more authentic experiences and avoided the place.

They have a very efficient metro (but it's always going to require some serious walking, so be prepared) and the Metro-Cable gondala cars that go up the sides of the mountains are amazing! Make sure you have the time to do this and if you need to hire a guide, it's still worth it. (Spanish comes in handy here. I was absolutely unable to communicate at a sufficient level but sure as hell, I got off at the right stop and the Policeman sent me in the right direction and I made it work, which means you can too).

I also did a 4 hour walking tour of el centro (called "Real City Tours" which is donation only and very interesting and worthwhile).

OK you're probably not coming to Medellin to checkout the history and retirement potential so let's talk about the real reason you're going there.

I booked my dates through FaceBook (and two others through Tinder). FaceBook is most relevant because of the large number of pointers and suggestions here on the board. You will need to have some basic level of Spanish. I know you're really smart and can manage google-translate but it takes too long and your girls will lose interest quickly if the conversation has too many delays. Oh and Google Translate and other apps are too word for word specific and don't really do a good job of translating the essence of what you are trying to say or understand. Basic Spanish will reward your effort more than you can believe possible.

If I had it to do over again (and I'm working on my next visit as we read / write) I would visit a number of the better casas on Avenida 33 in Laureles. (Unless I can get one of the masters to accompany me on a casa hunt in el centro). Laureles is safe, more expensive with lots of great beauties (or so I hear). So that is my plan for the next visit.

You should be able to pull great girls from Facebook but you'll have to work it. I mean let them know in advance you're visiting. (Don't expect long conversations, they don't want to waste their time until you're in the city). Once here, post some Medellin pictures on your FB homepage to let your "friends" know you've arrived and start to work. You'll pay more for a FaceBook prepago than you would in a casa but you should be able to pre-arrange your needs and her needs (something I didn't always do on my first trip and while it generally worked exactly as I hoped, there were a few disappointments). P4P is legal in Colombia (over the age of 18 and don't you even begin to think that 18 is a guideline and not a rule. You seriously do not want to find your ass in a Colombian prison, hoping that Donald Trump will pull you out. Because he won't). So since P4P is legal girls are not paranoid about clarifying what they want out of the visit and what you want out of the visit. This is a serious adjustment vs. The US where you both would be dealing with illegalities.

I recommend staying away from 'drugs' but I'm not a user so you are on your own in that department. If you would like to make sure you're 'up to the occasion' you might bring your needs with you. ED drugs in El Poblado are not as inexpensive even in the generic as I thought. Probably should have tried to price them in Envigado or other spots. Others may have good ideas where to find the bargains but all the "Drogerias" I tried in El Poblado were way too expensive for my tastes. (Luckily that was just a fact-finding excursion, since I brought my own stash).

I also suggest you bring your own condoms of choice. Why? Some girls won't bring them and will not go without, which will cause a problem. Besides some of the Colombian brands are too small and might make things uncomfortable. It's cheap, bring your own.

OK synopsis of my trip. I saw a bunch of FaceBook girls. Most asked what I was going to spend. I universally gave this answer:

$150 mil + taxis. Una Vez - 1-2 horas $150 mil - 1 time - 1-2 hours.

$200 mil + taxis. Dos Veces - 2-3 horas $200 mil - 2 times - 2-3 hours.

$300 mil + taxis - ? Veces - 6-8 horas $300 mil - ? Times - 6-8 hours.

Debes traer tu cedula. You must bring your ID.

Mi hotel es conservativa, por favor, te pones la ropa conservativa. My hotel is conservative, please wear conservative clothes.

I met very little resistance to this. One girl insisted she wanted $200 mil for 1 time 1-2 hours but she agreed to cover her own transportation. She had a very good rep so I did it but it wasn't one of my best sessions either.

OH, not a single girl asked to be paid up front. I would absolutely have sent them home (with taxi money) if they had insisted on this. This has been discussed in the forum and it's a clear absolute. You lose all control when you pay up front. Clearly you don't want to do this and sending a girl home is a preferable option even if it doesn't seem like it at the time. Luckily I never, once faced this issue.

I made my first trip 2 1/2 weeks, because air-fare is expensive. But I had a cold and was pretty much staying in my room the first 2-3 days. I think 10 days to 2 weeks is a satisfactory time range for a visit. If you reach your fill of sport-fucking the trip could drag. But if you like visiting museums and historical spots you certainly have enough to fill as much time as you would like.

If you visit a nice restaurant be warned that they might very well add "Propina" (which is 'standard gratuity' A lot of the places will ask you if that is OK? You might not understand the question in rapid-fire Spanish. Just look at the bill closely. If you see a line item "Propina" just know that you've already paid part (or all) of the tip and not to pay twice. My experience with the nicer restaurants (nicer meaning = more expensive) was that they added a 10% propina. Colombian tipping is different. 10% is generous / more than sufficient. You won't need or want to add anything to that. BTW Cab rides will not expect a tip at all, they will be delighted if you just round up the fare to the nearest Mil. (Cab fare = 8,650 and you pay them 9,000 (9 mil) They will be very happy.

Don't be too afraid to make mistakes, it's inevitable. You can't help but have a great time. So, relax and enjoy! And most important of all, take notes every night and write up a trip-report when you're finished.Great report. Just a couple of observations. Colombians do wear shorts, although it's not as common for men as for women.

Propinas: Most restaurants, even the cheap ones, include a 10% tip on the bill, although some will ask first. The bill will include a statement that the 10% propina is voluntary and it will be removed at your request. Colombians pay the 10% without question and never leave an additional tip.

Cajeros: ATMs are everywhere. I was in Centro Comercial Santa Fe (mall) on Sunday and just inside was a line of 6 ATMs from 1 bank, with 2 other bank ATMs, on the other side. There were plenty more throughout the mall. You should use indoor ATMs when possible, especially outside of Poblado.

Casas de Cambio: Currency exchange at the airport is always the worst rate. There are several places with better rates, Surcambios, Unicambios and Western Union all have decent rates.

If you're bored and need to kill some time, go visit a centro comercial (mall). I think the biggest is Santa Fe, just off the Aguacatala metro station. It's also the most expensive, so go next door to Oviedo mall if you're planning on buying anything. There are about 30 different food options at Santa Fe (price 16 k to 25 k and up) with another 20 at Oviedo (mostly 12 k to 25 k). There are also plenty of hot paisas dressed to get your attention. Walk around, or sit and have a beer, many of the food court places serve beer, and enjoy the floor show.

Taxis are everywhere and Uber is also readily available. Daytime (and early night, in good areas), just stick out your arm on Poblado or Las Vegas Ave. A taxi will stop for you. If you're staying somewhere off the beaten path, be prepared to give directions. It's common for a driver to have no idea how to get somewhere, but he'll happily drive around hoping for inspiration. Note: If you're in Centro at 3 am, I don't recommend just flagging down a taxi.

Medellin traffic isn't bad, compared to Bogota, but drivers have no idea what lanes are for. They drive a little crazy. You're right about no need to rent a car. Between taxis, busetas and the Metro, getting around is easy. Much easier than trying to find parking.

The airport taxi fee is supposed to be 65 k, but the drivers will try to charge more. Confirm the price before you leave. The bus is 8 k or 9 k, $3 vs. $23. Considering the distance, either is a bargain.

Depending on where you're coming from, it may be cheaper to fly to / from Bogota or Cartagena. From either place you can fly roundtrip to Medellin for about $50. Gives the option of a day or 2 to check another city.

Fun Luvr
04-18-17, 17:18
Villainy, that is a very good report. I think you are now as experienced as some who have been there many times. Your recommendations are all very good. There are a couple of things I want to add. At the airport, there are two Bancolombia ATM's just past the exit to the sidewalk after baggage claim. They are on the same side as the exit doors.

The generic Viagra is cheap in Medellin, although the price recently increased. I buy it just outside Park Lleras, at the drugstore on calle 10 and cra 40 (across calle 10 from Mondongos restaurant). It is less than 50 cents for 50 MG. They did not have generic Cialis when I checked about three years ago. I don't use Cialis because it had unwanted effects on me.

You didn't say anything about the downtown casas. If you go during the day, it is as safe as almost any other city. You just need to use common sense and some precautions. Most of the Medellin natives say to stay away from the Prado metro stop area, even in the daytime. I went there one time, not knowing any better, and didn't have any incidents. But why stretch your luck! There are many casas within easy walking distance of the Parque Berrio metro station.

Since you are comfortable staying in a hotel or apartment, I recommend you look in the Laurales area when you return. Almost everything there is cheaper than in Poblado.

YippieKayay
05-29-17, 14:49
Going back in a few weeks and some of you may remember this post from before I went in April:



I'm curious, would it be a bad idea to find a beauty in Centro and take her with me to Cartagena?
Instead of paying 200 k a pop in Cartagena I wondered if I could grab a casa girl or an SW from centro to take with me (para llevar). Well out of nowhere a casa chica started messaging me. One of the fat asses in Chicas Punto. This one I have tosay is half Brazilian. She's Colombian from her head to her waist, and brazilian from her hips to her feet hahahaha. I tell her I'd love to contribute more to her college fund and will be in Medellin in a few weeks. We start chatting but there's only one issue. She types everything as single words in a single sentence the entire time on whatsapp. Like. Every. Word. Is. Its. Own. Message.

This is some Sienfeld level shit. She's a perfect fuck for me in everyway but what a turnoff that she's so stupid she can't even type full sentences. Oh and when I asked her if she wanted me to bring her a gift she told me she wants a gold watch. Well of course she does.

Good news is she's willing to go bareback and I hinted some anal would be much appreciated. Bareback is fine (evidently all them chicas in that casa get 'injections' for birth control), but no clear response on the anal.

Just Incognito
05-29-17, 15:15
People keep yapping about setting up dates and finding girls on Facebook. Okay, how? Where does one begin? I search for girls, medellin, paisas, prepagos etc I get nowhere. Where is this magical trove of secpzy Facebook chicas that are willing to please my every whim? How do I begin to find them?

YippieKayay
05-29-17, 17:36
People keep yapping about setting up dates and finding girls on Facebook. Okay, how? Where does one begin? I search for girls, medellin, paisas, prepagos etc I get nowhere. Where is this magical trove of secpzy Facebook chicas that are willing to please my every whim? How do I begin to find them?Go to club Gusto Wednesday night. Get a prepago a bit drunk and take her home and fuck her. Pay her. Take her whatsapp number. Make jokes for a couple of days. Maybe see her again? Then ask about facebook.

Once you have one or two look for other women with sexy photos and lots of gringo friends. Add away.

Lou32
06-04-17, 02:01
YippieKayay and his interesting report brings up an interesting dilemma.

He mentioned telling the girl he wished to contribute to her "college fund". I like that line. I have been struggling with how best to bring up the cold subject of compensation during lovey, dovey chats with FB paisas I haven't met yet in person.

When is a good time to bring up how much and begin negotiations? "College fund" is a nice way to put it to the girl. What are some other ways to bring up money without it being so direct?

I once brought up the subject of money to a known working girl from another country via chat and she quickly put me on ignore. And this was definitely a working girl too.

Fun Luvr
06-04-17, 03:27
I have been struggling with how best to bring up the cold subject of compensation during lovey, dovey chats with FB paisas I haven't met yet in person.I have been meeting ladies from FB for more than six years. I have never brought up the subject of money with any of them. I tell them I want to see them, and that I am staying in an apartment. I've only communicated with two that said they were not P4 P. They both asked why I wanted to see them. I don't sugar-coat my response. I told them I wanted to go to bed with them. One said she has never done that for money (I'm still working on her). The other gave me some screwy answer that she's only been with one man, and she wasn't raised like that. Most of the ones I hadn't previously met in person asked what I planned to give them. It's always 150 mil plus one taxi ride. A few have asked for more. It depends on how they communicate if I agree to more. I had one last month tell me 300 mil plus taxi. I didn't even have to think before I said no.

Lou32
06-04-17, 09:27
I have been meeting ladies from FB for more than six years. I have never brought up the subject of money with any of them. I tell them I want to see them, and that I am staying in an apartment. I've only communicated with two that said they were not P4 P. They both asked why I wanted to see them. I don't sugar-coat my response. I told them I wanted to go to bed with them. One said she has never done that for money (I'm still working on her). The other gave me some screwy answer that she's only been with one man, and she wasn't raised like that. Most of the ones I hadn't previously met in person asked what I planned to give them. It's always 150 mil plus one taxi ride. A few have asked for more. It depends on how they communicate if I agree to more. I had one last month tell me 300 mil plus taxi. I didn't even have to think before I said no.Thanks for the info. I will try to stick to 150 mil too.

My fear is that I end up waiting until AFTER the first session to talk money and having the girl hit me with some outlandish price then making a scene if I don't agree to it. That happened to me once (in another country, I don't know if the Colombianas would behave like that) and I want to avoid that again.

It is good to know that you can be more direct in Colombia, LOL!

YippieKayay
06-04-17, 09:39
Thanks for the info. I will try to stick to 150 mil too.

My fear is that I end up waiting until AFTER the first session to talk money and having the girl hit me with some outlandish price then making a scene if I don't agree to it. That happened to me once (in another country, I don't know if the Colombianas would behave like that) and I want to avoid that again.

It is good to know that you can be more direct in Colombia, LOL!They will always generally negotiate before the act. Red flags are not mentioning price or time, and asking for money up front. In situations like these it's best to de-escalate as quickly as possible and get out of there. Usually giving them 20 k for taxi money seems to work.

EDIT: I noticed your other question. If you want to be subtle about payments say you're giving a gift. 'Regalo' is the Spanish word. You won't need to be this subtle with hookers and most prepagos but the ones who do it part time might want to use this kind of language.

Fun Luvr
06-04-17, 13:58
My fear is that I end up waiting until AFTER the first session to talk money and having the girl hit me with some outlandish price then making a scene if I don't agree to it.I've never had that happen in Medellin, but there is always a first time for anything. I have had two that told me, after the fact, they get 200 mil. One of them, who I had been with many times, I gave 200 with nothing extra and put her on my "Do not call" list. The other one, I gave 170 mil and told her that is what I pay. She was angry, but didn't make a scene. Then, the next day, she sent a message asking when I wanted to see her again. I have never had one ask for money upfront.

In Costa Rica, it's a completely different scene for me. I've encountered almost everything there, most of which wasn't good.

JjBee62
06-04-17, 15:36
I've never had that happen in Medellin, but there is always a first time for anything. I have had two that told me, after the fact, they get 200 mil. One of them, who I had been with many times, I gave 200 with nothing extra and put her on my "Do not call" list. The other one, I gave 170 mil and told her that is what I pay. She was angry, but didn't make a scene. Then, the next day, she sent a message asking when I wanted to see her again. I have never had one ask for money upfront.

In Costa Rica, it's a completely different scene for me. I've encountered almost everything there, most of which wasn't good.I don't think making a scene is part of the Colombian mindset. I'm sure there are exceptions, but most seem to accept things with minimal complaints. Afterwards, they will complain to all their friends.

My roommate just illustrated this to me, in an unrelated way. She had just bought something for the apartment, walked out of the store and saw an item she liked better. I told her to return the first one and buy the other one. She was terrified of making a scene or of offending the store clerk. She wouldn't even let me do it for her.

I wouldn't worry too much about one making a scene.

Lou32
06-04-17, 23:33
They will always generally negotiate before the act. Red flags are not mentioning price or time, and asking for money up front. In situations like these it's best to de-escalate as quickly as possible and get out of there. Usually giving them 20 k for taxi money seems to work.

EDIT: I noticed your other question. If you want to be subtle about payments say you're giving a gift. 'Regalo' is the Spanish word. You won't need to be this subtle with hookers and most prepagos but the ones who do it part time might want to use this kind of language.Yes, regalo, I've heard that often in Latin America, LOL!

Lou32
06-04-17, 23:34
I don't think making a scene is part of the Colombian mindset. I'm sure there are exceptions, but most seem to accept things with minimal complaints. Afterwards, they will complain to all their friends.

My roommate just illustrated this to me, in an unrelated way. She had just bought something for the apartment, walked out of the store and saw an item she liked better. I told her to return the first one and buy the other one. She was terrified of making a scene or of offending the store clerk. She wouldn't even let me do it for her.

I wouldn't worry too much about one making a scene.Yes, I've noticed that the Colombians are a bit classier than their Dominican cousins. No offense meant towards the Dominicans, of course.

Lou32
06-04-17, 23:36
I've never had that happen in Medellin, but there is always a first time for anything. I have had two that told me, after the fact, they get 200 mil. One of them, who I had been with many times, I gave 200 with nothing extra and put her on my "Do not call" list. The other one, I gave 170 mil and told her that is what I pay. She was angry, but didn't make a scene. Then, the next day, she sent a message asking when I wanted to see her again. I have never had one ask for money upfront.

In Costa Rica, it's a completely different scene for me. I've encountered almost everything there, most of which wasn't good.Regarding the "Do Not Call List", I just had one of my absolute favorites do the ol' RFM and I told her Lo Siento so I am wondering if I am now on her "Do Not Call List" or if she will "forgive" me and try to get back in my good graces when I return.

I'm betting the latter. The money is too easy for them.

Fun Luvr
06-05-17, 02:55
Regarding the "Do Not Call List", I just had one of my absolute favorites do the ol' RFM and I told her Lo Siento so I am wondering if I am now on her "Do Not Call List" or if she will "forgive" me and try to get back in my good graces when I return.

I'm betting the latter. The money is too easy for them.I put their RFM in the same category as my RFP. Very rarely does it create a problem for me, and sometimes I get lucky. I think their mindset is the same. Usually it doesn't cause a problem, and sometimes they get free money. I agree with you, she will probably act as if she never sent the RFM the next time you see her.

In an indirect way, I asked a Hooter's girl for sex. She acted insulted and asked if I was crazy. I told her I never know unless I ask. She continues to talk to me and asks me to sit in her section when I visit Hooter's, but now knows that I am a dirty old man. Who knows, she may tell her girlfriends and one of them may decide she can use some easy money.

YippieKayay
06-05-17, 20:19
So is it just me or are most prepagos fucking territorial? One of the chicas I banged in Cartagena posted a photo of herself and a friend of hers at a party. I sent her a message later complimenting her friend ('muy hermosa' I mean that chica looked stunning. She thanked me and I thought nothing of it. Well actually I did mention I'd be around Medellin soon and would love to meet her friend.

Today I discovered that evidently that earned me removal from her fb friends. WTF? Hahahaha.

Cheerfull
06-11-17, 09:16
Returning to MDE for a follow up visit next month; after a year long absence. Was in MDE in July right before all the shit hit the fan, with see Jake. I took a tour of the centro with Jake when I arrived to MDE and that was all I did with him. I am just a tad leery wondering since I did have some brief association with Jake and he did have my contact (whatsapp) info, if I might be on the Colombian LE's radar for whatever reason. We all know how toxic Jake was. I am also wondering if there were other guys that experienced some negative fallout for having associated with Jake.

Thanks.

JjBee62
06-27-17, 23:39
If you're coming to Medellin doing the Facebook scene you need some restaurants for your "dates. " Here are some I recommend:

J&see Delicias. Good Colombian food, mostly featuring arepas. Several locations including Parque Lleras.

Sicilia en Bocca. Pizza restaurant not far from Parque Lleras. Good selection of personal size pizzas. Minimal seating.

Al Alma Cafe. Breakfast and lunch coffee shop. Food is very good. At La Strada mall and another location near Parque Poblado.

Patatas a cielo abierto. Start with your choice of potatoes topped with almost anything. Popular with couples. At La Strada mall.

La Strada mall. Several different restaurants to choose from. On Poblado Ave north of Hard Rock Cafe.

Sao Paulo Plaza. Good place for lunch. Several restaurants with 15 k lunch specials. On Poblado Ave at the south end of Poblado.

LOS Contenadores. A collection of several restaurants at the north end of Envigado on Las Vegas Ave. Not far from the Ayura Metro station.

Classic Diner. A 50's style American Diner. A bit overpriced, but a cool decor. In Envigado at La Fonda, a collection of a few restaurants. On Poblado Ave.

Crepes why Waffles. Located everywhere. Really good dessert selection.

Most of these places have entrees in the 18 k to 25 k range. All tend to attract upper middle class crowds.

Kick123
07-04-17, 08:10
It's a new restaurant in my neighborhood. It was surprisingly good.

https://www.facebook.com/Douraku-2010198439201511/

Rodeo9112
07-06-17, 04:25
Just wondering what "hard to find" items I might want to bring from the US to give to paisas (putas or non-pros) as little 'thank you' gifts or friendship gifts? Could also be something I just have in the apartment to eat or drink that most would consider a rare treat. Any insight would be appreciated!

Thanks.

Manizales911
07-06-17, 22:56
Just wondering what "hard to find" items I might want to bring from the US to give to paisas (putas or non-pros) as little 'thank you' gifts or friendship gifts? Could also be something I just have in the apartment to eat or drink that most would consider a rare treat. Any insight would be appreciated!

Thanks.Victoria Secret sprays and lotions.

JjBee62
07-07-17, 00:47
Just wondering what "hard to find" items I might want to bring from the US to give to paisas (putas or non-pros) as little 'thank you' gifts or friendship gifts? Could also be something I just have in the apartment to eat or drink that most would consider a rare treat. Any insight would be appreciated!

Thanks.Rare treat? Peanut butter and Graham crackers. Both are hard to find and peanut butter is expensive. Any kinds of chocolate works too. Catch any of the clothing stores that are going out of business. I spent $50 at an American Eagle store that was shutting down and got 11 shirts and sweaters. Very well received.

Rodeo9112
07-07-17, 01:09
I never would have thought of peanut butter and figured now that Vicky's is franchising their accessories stores (sprays and lotions), that they'd be all over Colombia by now. Good to know! I went by one of those Vicky's shops today that had a sale of a 4-pack of lotions for $10. I should have scooped up a few! I know those are always a big hit in DR!

Wolf662
07-07-17, 01:21
Just wondering what "hard to find" items I might want to bring from the US to give to paisas (putas or non-pros) as little 'thank you' gifts or friendship gifts? Could also be something I just have in the apartment to eat or drink that most would consider a rare treat. Any insight would be appreciated!

Thanks.What do women love the most beside $? Clothes.

I'd check www.Wish.com they have super cheap women's stuff.

For my next trip I bought all this, $54 total including shipping.

Alliwantislove
07-07-17, 02:28
Victoria Secret sprays and lotions.How about Victoria Secret lingerie?

Manizales911
07-07-17, 02:39
How about Victoria Secret lingerie?If you're a big spender, yes. But Rodeo said "little" gifts.

JjBee62
07-07-17, 07:36
I never would have thought of peanut butter and figured now that Vicky's is franchising their accessories stores (sprays and lotions), that they'd be all over Colombia by now. Good to know! I went by one of those Vicky's shops today that had a sale of a 4-pack of lotions for $10. I should have scooped up a few! I know those are always a big hit in DR!There's a Victoria's Secret in Centro Comercial Santa Fe.

Alliwantislove
07-07-17, 14:27
There's a Victoria's Secret in Centro Comercial Santa Fe.So why bring VS gifts from the US? Is the merchandise there different? Or more expensive?

Bob.

JjBee62
07-07-17, 17:21
So why bring VS gifts from the US? Is the merchandise there different? Or more expensive?

Bob.I never suggested bringing VS. Haven't been in shopping, but I would guess higher price and a different selection in some areas.

Manizales911
07-07-17, 17:53
So why bring VS gifts from the US? Is the merchandise there different? Or more expensive?

Bob.Because one doesn't want to spend their valuable vacation time in Medellin shopping in a woman's lingerie store, I can only speak for myself but I would have better things to do with my time.

TheBloke1
07-08-17, 00:48
Rare treat? Peanut butter and Graham crackers. Both are hard to find and peanut butter is expensive. Any kinds of chocolate works too. Catch any of the clothing stores that are going out of business. I spent $50 at an American Eagle store that was shutting down and got 11 shirts and sweaters. Very well received.Can you take peanut butter in only a carry-on, I would think not? So that also reduces the volume of lotions, etc. Maybe small make-up kits like eye shadow. What size clothing do you generally buy for the women down there, some of them look pretty-well endowed in several areas.

Fun Luvr
07-08-17, 01:48
So why bring VS gifts from the US? Is the merchandise there different? Or more expensive?

Bob.I think anything from the US is more expensive in Colombia. Also, several ladies have told me they cannot buy the proper size bra in Medellin. It seems the largest cup size is a "see". Any boobs larger than that, they increase the band size. Thus, the bra doesn't fit properly.

Wolf662
07-08-17, 15:22
What size clothing do you generally buy for the women down there, some of them look pretty-well endowed in several areas.Well last time I WhatsApp'ed my girl and got her sizes, she is out of town this time, so I got a mix of Small & Med, they like tight fitting stuff anyway.

JjBee62
07-09-17, 00:01
Can you take peanut butter in only a carry-on, I would think not? So that also reduces the volume of lotions, etc. Maybe small make-up kits like eye shadow. What size clothing do you generally buy for the women down there, some of them look pretty-well endowed in several areas.Actually, you can take peanut butter in a carryon. It's not a liquid, or any other banned item. I mentioned peanut butter because the OP asked about hard to find or expensive treats.

Makeup? I wouldn't bother. Women tend to be particular about their makeup and it's readily available. As for clothing, pick the size that fits the size of woman you prefer. They come in all shapes and sizes.

Unless you're trying to set up some long term arrangement with a complete stranger, why worry about anything too extravagant? If you meet one that you want to see again, bring something on your next trip.

If you really feel the need to bring gifts, and you plan on bringing them back to your place, buy some good scented body wash and a bottle of body spray. They can leave smelling better than when they arrived.

Fun Luvr
07-09-17, 18:24
Here is a list of items I take every trip:

Chocolates. Kit Kat (most like those more than solid chocolate), Hershey's Kisses, Hershey's Miniatures Assorted Chocolates. After holidays (Easter, Valentine's Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas) many stores have them at half price. -.

Victoria Secret. Lip gloss, rollerball fragrances, lotions, body mists, panties, bras. I have to limit the amount of lotions and body mists because they add weight to my luggage very fast. Panties are mostly small, some extra-small and medium. Bras are small and medium. I don't bother with exact sizing of bras unless it is for someone I know. I wait for the sales at VS to buy the things.

Some of the things I take some times, because they are very expensive in Medellin:

Deodorants. It is difficult to find unscented there, and any is very expensive.

Shampoo. Any of the cheap brands are good, just make sure they smell good. I have noticed some of the ladies use my shampoo as a body wash when they visit me.

Cell phone chargers and cables (Android). Usually at least one lady will need those, and they don't take up much space.

This is not a complete list, but these are some popular items.

I took peanut butter one time, and my lady friend did not like it. The small jars of Jif are available there in most grocery stores for about $5.

Jdit
07-09-17, 19:20
Can you take peanut butter in only a carry-on, I would think not? So that also reduces the volume of lotions, etc. Maybe small make-up kits like eye shadow. What size clothing do you generally buy for the women down there, some of them look pretty-well endowed in several areas.I'm not sure about the rules on peanut butter, but it will likely be considered a liquid or gel, and not be allowed in the passenger cabin if the container is larger than 100 ML (3.4 oz).

Wolf662
07-13-17, 21:30
What do women love the most beside $? Clothes.

I'd check www.Wish.com they have super cheap women's stuff.

For my next trip I bought all this, $54 total including shipping.Just beware if you do use that site that the stuff all ships from China, of the 10 things I have ordered, 1 arrived on day 11, one on day 12 and the rest haven't arrived yet.

So order early!

Fun Luvr
07-14-17, 04:28
Just beware if you do use that site that the stuff all ships from China, of the 10 things I have ordered, 1 arrived on day 11, one on day 12 and the rest haven't arrived yet.

So order early!I order quite a few things from China. Some will arrive in less than two weeks, but many will take a month or more. I try to order at least six weeks before I depart.

Wolf662 offers good advice. Order early.

Alliwantislove
07-14-17, 14:55
I'm not sure about the rules on peanut butter, but it will likely be considered a liquid or gel, and not be allowed in the passenger cabin if the container is larger than 100 ML (3.4 oz).I think you're right. I had a problem once with a bottle of jam.

YippieKayay
07-21-17, 02:44
https://www.economist.com/news/americas/21725351-women-fleeing-poverty-get-right-work-prostitutes-venezuelans-sell-sex-colombia

Nordico
07-21-17, 12:56
Hi Guys,

Planning my first trip to Colombia and try to do my homework as well as I can, so many questions may be on the way.

Has anybody hired a taxi for a whole day and how much would it cost? Mr. Black Page gave me the idea of going to Santa Fe. There may be buses, but with a taxi, I could stop wherever I want and take some pictures etc.

Thanks, Nordico.

YippieKayay
07-21-17, 13:22
Hi Guys,

Planning my first trip to Colombia and try to do my homework as well as I can, so many questions may be on the way.

Has anybody hired a taxi for a whole day and how much would it cost? Mr. Black Page gave me the idea of going to Santa Fe. There may be buses, but with a taxi, I could stop wherever I want and take some pictures etc.

Thanks, Nordico.Taxis have an hourly rate. If I recall correctly it's around 27 k? Maybe less? The one I used had his prices posted on a sticker in his cab. There are also drivers who act as guides.

JjBee62
07-21-17, 13:30
Hi Guys,

Planning my first trip to Colombia and try to do my homework as well as I can, so many questions may be on the way.

Has anybody hired a taxi for a whole day and how much would it cost? Mr. Black Page gave me the idea of going to Santa Fe. There may be buses, but with a taxi, I could stop wherever I want and take some pictures etc.

Thanks, Nordico.Santa Fe is in Bogota, unless you're talking about Centro Comercial Santa Fe in Poblado. If you plan on going around Santa Fe taking pictures, a cab is better. That way if you are injured when someone liberates your camera, you have a ride to the hospital.

Chances are, someone at the hotel or apartment you stay in, knows someone who will drive you around for a price.

Nordico
07-21-17, 13:32
Santa Fe is in Bogota, unless you're talking about Centro Comercial Santa Fe in Poblado. If you plan on going around Santa Fe taking pictures, a cab is better. That way if you are injured when someone liberates your camera, you have a ride to the hospital.

Chances are, someone at the hotel or apartment you stay in, knows someone who will drive you around for a price.I meant Santa Fé de Antioquia, which is 57 km from Medellin.

Fun Luvr
07-21-17, 23:47
Hi Guys,

Planning my first trip to Colombia and try to do my homework as well as I can, so many questions may be on the way.

Has anybody hired a taxi for a whole day and how much would it cost? Mr. Black Page gave me the idea of going to Santa Fe. There may be buses, but with a taxi, I could stop wherever I want and take some pictures etc.

Thanks, Nordico.Here's a list of drivers / guides from World Traveler 69's complete list:

1. Juan Carlos, speaks good English and is cool and is honest and doesn't gouge the gringo. He'll take you on "special trips" or help you find casas, chicas. Etc. Rates: 25 k hour. 60 k airport pickup. Tel: 311-xxxx435, 313-xxxx366.

2. Bucky, Tel: 311 xxxx192, 31xx409. Speaks English.

3. Jaime Mira Estrada, Tel: 314 870 6228, (57) 317-793-5404. jaime-medellintaxi@hotmail.com http://www.medellintaxi.com/.

4. William, he lived in the USA for 5 years so he speaks perfect English. Rates: 22 k Hour. 3 hours or more 20 k per hour. Cell: (573) 300-677-8058. willisbestsupport@gmail.com www.willisbestguidemedellin.com.

5. Jimmy, he speaks English. Cell: 314 xxxx2 28.

6. Robert, makes sure you have a good time and you enjoy the stay. Feel free to call his USA landline 954-xxxx981 or cell 300 xxxx9 33.

7. Dino, Speaks Spanish only. Cells are: 300 xxxx211 or 315 xxxx010, Home 37xxx83.

8. Cesar's, cell number from USA is 011-57-315-xxxx390. From Medellin you just call the last 10 numbers: 315-514-3390. Cesar does not speak much English.

9. Gustavo, has lived in the USA, speaks very good English, understands and can relate to your needs. You can contact Gustavo directly, cellular in Medellin 311-388-3861.

10. Hector, speaks good English. Tel: 315 6xxxx87, 300 xxxx119.

11. Fernando, no English but knows everything in Medellin. Tel: 300-xxxx504. His Cells: from the USA 01157-xxxx26-7678, 313-xxxx670.

12. Nick, speaks English. Tel: 300 xxxx504.

13. Robinson, speaks English. Tel: 300 xxxx760, 311 xxxx913.

14. Andrea, she speaks English and has no car. Tel: 311 xxxx007.

15. Linton, cell is 311-xxxx712. He doesn't speak English but he knows where the street girls are. And he charged what was on the meter. Highly Recommended!

16. John Jairo, speaks English. This guy was really good about taking us on a tour of the SG's and Chica clubs. Tel: (310) xxxx3818.

17. Alvero, speaks English. Cell number from Medellin: 316-xxxx882. From the USA: 011-57-xxxx52-2882.

This list was created a few years ago, so inflation may have affected the rates.

YippieKayay
07-22-17, 00:06
Awesome list.


.

14. Andrea, she speaks English and has no car. Tel: 311 387 0007..Hilarious. How does Andrea get you to where you need to go?

25 k to 30 k is about right. 'guides' will charge a premium if they think their English skills are worth that premium. If you are going outside of Medelland like Santa Fe then they might ask for an extra charge like 125 k plus their hourly rate. It's for the mileage I guess.

Don't go to Santa Fe alone. Get a chica with you. It's their cottage country.

Wolf662
07-22-17, 02:23
https://www.economist.com/news/americas/21725351-women-fleeing-poverty-get-right-work-prostitutes-venezuelans-sell-sex-colombiaThe one I met and did inhouse in BarreEjectiva seemed normal and not desperate, the older one with her daughter I met in Maracaibo and did takeout turned out to be fairly desperate, no ID, no cel, nowhere to stay etc.

Questner
07-22-17, 03:19
Hi Guys,

Planning my first trip to Colombia and try to do my homework as well as I can, so many questions may be on the way.

Has anybody hired a taxi for a whole day and how much would it cost? Mr. Black Page gave me the idea of going to Santa Fe. There may be buses, but with a taxi, I could stop wherever I want and take some pictures etc.

Thanks, Nordico.You can travel with an organized Spanish speaking group, probably around 70 K Not every day, but at least once a week, usually on Saturdays. Drivers may be more convenient for faster in and out of Santa Fe. Buses are cheaper.

Gagoo
07-22-17, 05:58
https://www.economist.com/news/americas/21725351-women-fleeing-poverty-get-right-work-prostitutes-venezuelans-sell-sex-colombiaI banged one in Cartagena, one in Medellin, and was offered her friends. In Santa Marta there is a club with mostly Venezuelan girls. A lot of the restaurants and bars have Venezuelans as regular workers. At the club in Santa Marta I asked a Colombian girl if she was mad at the Venezuelan girls, and she said no, they really need the money. I found the Venezuelan girl in Medellin on mileroticos. 3 of the 4 I banged gave great service. One was a dud. The three good ones did BBBJ no questions asked. BBBJ seems to becoming less common in Colombia overall.

Prowler5599
07-23-17, 18:43
Has anyone flown in / out of Medellin using Satena Airlines? They use EOH airport which is much more convenient than Cordova.

JjBee62
07-24-17, 01:11
Has anyone flown in / out of Medellin using Satena Airlines? They use EOH airport which is much more convenient than Cordova.Where are you flying from? Satena flights into EOH are twin prop planes, not jets.

Prowler5599
07-24-17, 05:30
Where are you flying from? Satena flights into EOH are twin prop planes, not jets.I am starting in Bogota and was thinking of flying into Medellin. Supposedly they have some smaller jets (ERJ) in their fleet.

Gagoo
07-25-17, 06:40
The dental thread seems dead. So I'll ask here. I went to a dentist recommended by someone I consider a friend, he is one of the people listed on ISG as a guide in Medellin. I came to the conclusion that my "friend" refers quite a few people to the dentist and gets a healthy referral fee. After I was a little surprised by the price and didn't say anything, he says OK, you are a friend of "the guide", I'll give you a discount. I'd be OK with the price, but I don't think he can actually do what I need to do. He came to the conclusion of 1 root canal and post and crown, remove an old crown and maybe work underneath it and replace it. Remove and redo 2 fillings, fix a cavity. Do the work and install 2 porcelain implants in the back. I had teeth just coming out the last couple years. Then he added cleaning and whitening. Originally it was about $3,000 USD. Then he made it $2480 USD. I'm sure in the US it would cost a lot more. But this guy was talking like he orders and old porcelain teeth and can have everything done very fast. He was trying to insist he might do it all in 1 day. I know that isn't reasonable or safe. And I thought for sure you have to take some measurements and do fittings. Not just order some teeth. He said all this before getting X-rays. He asked me to go across the street to get the X-rays and come back. The X-Rays were only 15,000 pesos. They did use a high-tech machine though. I came back and gave the dentist the X-Rays and he said he will have a look at them and see what else needs to be done.

Now I know one of the first things I dentist wanted to do in the US is get the X-Rays. Or have a quick look and get X-Rays. He was making all kinds of plans with no X-Rays.

Anyways, anyone know of a good dentist in Medellin? I'd even go to Bogota or Cali. I'd even go to Costa Rica or Panama for a good, trust worthy dentist. I can't trust this one-man dentist shop.

Fun Luvr
07-25-17, 15:15
Anyways, anyone know of a good dentist in Medellin? I'd even go to Bogota or Cali. I'd even go to Costa Rica or Panama for a good, trust worthy dentist. I can't trust this one-man dentist shop.A guy who owns and rents many apartments in Medellin, and occasionally posts on here, has recommended Marcel Hincapie. His office is on San Juan Ave. You can do an internet search to find him.

I have personal experience with a dental clinic in Costa Rica. It is all-inclusive, everything is done on-site, including the lab where they make crowns. It is Costa Rica Dental Team. Again, find it on the internet. Their prices have increased in recent years, but still about 25% of US (Florida) prices for major procedures. You will have to make at least two trips to Costa Rica for the implants because they allow the gums to heal after installing the post before installing the final crown.

Sun08
07-25-17, 19:48
Now I know one of the first things I dentist wanted to do in the US is get the X-Rays. Or have a quick look and get X-Rays. He was making all kinds of plans with no X-Rays.
Anyways, anyone know of a good dentist in Medellin? I'd even go to Bogota or Cali. I'd even go to Costa Rica or Panama for a good, trust worthy dentist. I can't trust this one-man dentist shop.Post your question at tripadvisor.com. I know some of the people who respond are actually living in Medellin. You can also try http://www.expatexchange.com/colombia/liveincolombia.html to post your question. Whichever Dentist you select, never let him / her to do all the work an one day. Let him to work on one tooth first. If you were happy with the result, make further appointments. You may have to select an specialist for root canal, another for Implant and another for General Dentistry. At least that is how it is in the USA. I would stay away from a dentist who recommends treatments without prior Dental X-Ray and Oral Exam.

JjBee62
07-25-17, 20:28
I am starting in Bogota and was thinking of flying into Medellin. Supposedly they have some smaller jets (ERJ) in their fleet.Yesterday I did see a smaller jet flying in to EOH. I have a good view of the incoming flights from my apartment, although not close enough to make out which airline. I would give it a try. I prefer Avianca out of MDE for my trips to BOG, because they have enough leg room for me. But I do hate spending more time getting to the airport than I spend in the air.

Gagoo
07-29-17, 00:31
Yesterday I did see a smaller jet flying in to EOH. I have a good view of the incoming flights from my apartment, although not close enough to make out which airline. I would give it a try. I prefer Avianca out of MDE for my trips to BOG, because they have enough leg room for me. But I do hate spending more time getting to the airport than I spend in the air.Here is not a whole lot from there. On their website they tell you the airline schedules. http://www.aeropuertomedellin.co/.

Gagoo
07-29-17, 01:04
Thanks for the replies about a dentist in MDE. I found an Airbnb guy that owns a penthouse and stays in it, and co-owns a coffee farm, gold mine, and cattle ranch. I actually decided to stay in his Airbnb because he could help me with a few different things and I knew I could respect his opinion. I am staying here for a week even though No guests are allowed. It's Ok, for a week I can bang girls where they work. Anyways, he suggested go to Clinica Las Americas. I actually went there last month because a girl I was with and know very well had a baby with an unknown father. We did a DNA test there. That was only 250 K. In the same building hey have a large dentistry area. So far some of the costs are or will be: Exam, X-Rays, and cleaning were 166 K pesos. Further consultations and exam the next day was free. They have their own digital X-Ray system. The total cost for a root a canal and ceramic crown, no post, is 1,445,000 pesos. For my other teeth they suggested less work than the first dentist. They didn't try to get me to do extra stuff. They said I need 3 posts for 2 tooth implants on the lower rear. Cost for preparing for 2 implants, building up any bone if needed and temp crowns, 3 post, and 4-5 month later 2 implants is 5. 6 million pesos.

Luckily I am not a father.

As far as them speaking English, only the guy that will do the root canals can speak English. On my first day nobody spoke English. I don't know why they didn't get him to talk to me the first day. I got lucky and my Airbnb guy gave me a ride and was going to be my translator on he second day. But after we found out I didn't need a translator my Airbnb host left.

I got 2 more appointments next week. The dentist that can speak English is Guillermo Oliveros.

HBoy54
07-29-17, 01:24
I'm curious as to why you need 3 posts for 2 teeth.

Yet it only takes one for you to be a D-bag

A2

Baby Boy
07-29-17, 06:58
Has anyone flown in / out of Medellin using Satena Airlines? They use EOH airport which is much more convenient than Cordova.BOG to EOH via Satena to me is the better option than flying into MDE. I've flown with them twice this year. Satena has a small jet with about 50 people capacity. EOH is only about 5 minute cab ride to Parque lleras without traffic vs 45 minutes from MDE.

Gagoo
07-29-17, 07:32
I'm curious as to why you need 3 posts for 2 teeth.I thought it was odd also. But he said the gap between my teeth is bigger than normal. The two teeth are next to each other. I don't know if they plan on making the 2 teeth like one unit or something. He will do my root canal and crown on Tuesday. I can ask him then and if the service is scary or sucks I won't need to do the implants with them. Their website is http://odontologia.lasamericas.com.co/.

Gagoo
07-30-17, 09:51
Thanks for the replies about a dentist in MDE. I found an Airbnb guy that owns a penthouse and stays in it, and co-owns a coffee farm, gold mine, and cattle ranch. I actually decided to stay in his Airbnb because he could help me with a few different things and I knew I could respect his opinion. I am staying here for a week even though No guests are allowed. It's Ok, for a week I can bang girls where they work. Anyways, he suggested go to Clinica Las Americas. I actually went there last month because a girl I was with and know very well had a baby with an unknown father. We did a DNA test there. That was only 250 K. In the same building hey have a large dentistry area. So far some of the costs are or will be: Exam, X-Rays, and cleaning were 166 K pesos. Further consultations and exam the next day was free. They have their own digital X-Ray system. The total cost for a root a canal and ceramic crown, no post, is 1,445,000 pesos. For my other teeth they suggested less work than the first dentist. They didn't try to get me to do extra stuff. They said I need 3 posts for 2 tooth implants on the lower rear. Cost for preparing for 2 implants, building up any bone if needed and temp crowns, 3 post, and 4-5 month later 2 implants is 5. 6 million pesos.

Luckily I am not a father.

As far as them speaking English, only the guy that will do the root canals can speak English. On my first day nobody spoke English. I don't know why they didn't get him to talk to me the first day. I got lucky and my Airbnb guy gave me a ride and was going to be my translator on he second day. But after we found out I didn't need a translator my Airbnb host left.

I got 2 more appointments next week. The dentist that can speak English is Guillermo Oliveros.I want to correct something in this report. The dentist that speaks English: his name is Daniel Ruiz. Their website is http://odontologia.lasamericas.com.co.

Rodeo9112
07-31-17, 08:46
Just curious if any guys have indulged in trimming a little off the waist and hips. What are the prices like and is it less or more expensive for guys than women?

Thanks.

Manizales911
08-01-17, 03:17
Just curious if any guys have indulged in trimming a little off the waist and hips. What are the prices like and is it less or more expensive for guys than women?

Thanks.I'm pulling your Man Card, hahahaha.

Cm6363
08-01-17, 03:44
Does Bogota have a Semi-Pro scene similar to Medellin? I have not been able to tap into it.

If so, how are you finding them? Colombia Cupid? Tinder? Facebook? Clubs?

Thanks in advance.

World Travel 69
08-02-17, 01:40
https://www.viator.com/Bogota-tourism/Nightlife-in-Bogota-La-Zona-Rosa/d4560-t6253

http://thecolombiatravelguide.com/destinations/bogota/bars-and-clubs/


Does Bogota have a Semi-Pro scene similar to Medellin? I have not been able to tap into it.

If so, how are you finding them? Colombia Cupid? Tinder? Facebook? Clubs?

Thanks in advance.

Fun Luvr
08-02-17, 15:42
I'm pulling your Man Card, hahahaha.Speaking of man cards. I was looking at the Victoria's Secret website to find some thong panties for a lady friend in Medellin. For a particular thong, almost all the reviews were by men in various states who bought the panties for themselves. Is that a new trend, or have I been living in a bubble for years?

Rodeo9112
08-03-17, 23:08
Speaking of man cards. I was looking at the Victoria's Secret website to find some thong panties for a lady friend in Medellin. For a particular thong, almost all the reviews were by men in various states who bought the panties for themselves. Is that a new trend, or have I been living in a bubble for years?Whoa! Man panties? Man-ties? That's just nasty! I did read that some dudes are sporting rompers. That is all-in-one shorts and shirt together. Surely, no guy that mongers in MDE would be caught in manties or rompers!

JjBee62
08-10-17, 00:36
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Balboa
08-10-17, 02:36
... Right now, in Medellin, there are about 20,000 women working as webcam models. There are perhaps 15,000 more in the rest of Colombia. Most of these models make very little money. Many of the ones making very little money are available for sex if you know how to approach them.

There are about 1000 models in Colombia who make a decent living, 1 to 3 million COP per month or so. Some of these are available for sex, but the price is higher and the approach much more difficult.

Perhaps 100 models are making in excess of 4 million COP per month in Colombia. Almost none of them are available for sex and the ones who are, are priced out of range of almost everyone.

I work with models from this group, or models who are good enough to get into this group. I've never claimed to own any multi-million dollar company. The closest I can claim is that I'm working with some models who do work for a multi-million dollar company.

The specific model I mentioned, I don't work with, never claimed to work with. She lives in a penthouse apartment in the same building I live in and we have mutual friends. Right now she is earning 600,000 tokens per month. 100,000 tokens is $5,000. Her earnings have increased substantially in the past 6 months and continue to increase..Good post.

I was curious though, since you're in the webcam biz.

What differentiates the girls making nada to the girls making the $1000's of dollars each month?

Can't be looks alone, and what kind of show would warrant that money?

I believe you, just a little shocked.

I've browsed through webcam sites of course, I've seen hot sexy girls on them, but couldn't imagine sending any real money their way.

Nothing against them, the more power to them, just seems ridiculous.

Must be some lonely cats out there.

Thanks.

Wolf662
08-10-17, 03:05
Good post.

I was curious though, since you're in the webcam biz.

What differentiates the girls making nada to the girls making the $1000's of dollars each month?

Can't be looks alone, and what kind of show would warrant that money?

I believe you, just a little shocked.

I've browsed through webcam sites of course, I've seen hot sexy girls on them, but couldn't imagine sending any real money their way.

Nothing against them, the more power to them, just seems ridiculous.

Must be some lonely cats out there.

Thanks.I don't know about the Colombian webcam girls but I watched one of the top US girls make around $20,000 on her Birthday on Chaturbate. I was amazed!

JjBee62
08-10-17, 03:35
Good post.

I was curious though, since you're in the webcam biz.

What differentiates the girls making nada to the girls making the $1000's of dollars each month?

Can't be looks alone, and what kind of show would warrant that money?

I believe you, just a little shocked.

I've browsed through webcam sites of course, I've seen hot sexy girls on them, but couldn't imagine sending any real money their way.

Nothing against them, the more power to them, just seems ridiculous.

Must be some lonely cats out there.

Thanks.One word differentiates most of them, Personality. There are a few that make great money for no apparent reason, but the majority it's all about personality. How well they connect with the viewers.

As for the type of show, it varies. I've seen some elaborate shows, professional body paint jobs, professional makeup, hair and nails that didn't do that well. I've seen basic shows without anything beyond topless that did very well.

It's not something you can understand. I once met a guy about 30 years old who was in love with a 70 year-old woman who looked rough. Try to understand that one. For some it's the ultimate thing. For others it's boring.

Mr Enternational
08-10-17, 04:34
Definitely something I can not understand. This chick in Medellin keeps trying to do a webcam show for me because she is behind on rent. I told her I just do not understand it. I have no problem getting pussy so I have no desire to see a webcam show. Maybe if I was locked up in my mom's basement or something. But still, there is so much free porn including webcam shows, that I just can't fathom paying for one.

JjBee62
08-10-17, 08:06
Definitely something I can not understand. This chick in Medellin keeps trying to do a webcam show for me because she is behind on rent. I told her I just do not understand it. I have no problem getting pussy so I have no desire to see a webcam show. Maybe if I was locked up in my mom's basement or something. But still, there is so much free porn including webcam shows, that I just can't fathom paying for one.I know guys who can't fathom paying for sex. I know guys who can't fathom having sex with anyone but their wife. Then there are guys who only want bareback anal with cheap hookers. Guys who only want black, white, blonde, redhead.

Knew of a CEO who, 25 years ago, paid women to come to his office and watch him masturbate. Just sit and watch.

Some things I can understand, some I can't.

There are guys on webcam sites that spend as much as $80,000 on a single tip. Some have spent even more. Why? Beats me, but I'm betting they aren't living in their mother's basement. I can tell you that quite a few of those guys are also frequent mongers. When they are stuck at home, they would rather chat and watch girls online than deal with the dating scene, or the US p4 p scene. When they can get to a mongering spot, they do that.

I guess most of them prefer the fantasy to their reality.

C Jack Sparrow
08-10-17, 08:44
You are an assistant to a webcam small business and rent a room in a internet hookers apartment and call that success.

Now she made 6000 USD / month, yesterday it was 1 million US Dollars a year.

It's the most BORING activity that exist, except bring out the garbage!

I was offered to by a studio in Medellin for like 5000 USD. But my paisa friends warned me, saying that the studios lose money more often than make money. And if they make money it's the owner of Jazmin, MFC and the 1% top models.

My English was good enough to understand?

As I said, how have you achieved all this universal knowledge about what is good and bad, right and wrong.

Now you are calling my a pimp based on some funny %-based calculation on living expenses. So if I live alone and a girl moves into me and we share the expenses, that makes me a pimp?

She is not complaining at all, she even was surprised that I did not have an idea of charging her, which had been her main concern before. And yes; we have a strong connection emotionally. She does sex or escorting on dinners, travels with living persons to make a good income, instead of your sick admiration of girls that suck and fuck plastic dildos 8 hours a day and making conversation on a chlids level.

Marriage is necessary to get a visa, to get work permit, go to school, doctor etc.

Her friends coming over will do that as her friend, and their business are not my concern.

I usually get laid without paying more for the dinner etc. , or just a female friend comes to my apartment and are horny. But the best sex are of course with prepagos, but it takes time and money to find your favorites. Colombians, girls from those hot sunny countries wants sex and it's not a taboo, like in Anglo-Saxon countries. Anyway, it could be fun to have some Colombian girls here, changing like every 3rd months, even without any erotic benefits. I can assist them how to find a Boyfriend and future husband here.

Yes, if she is pulling tricks, I send her home right away. Paisas are such unpredictable and impulsive females, so you never know whats on her real agenda, nor does she does herself!

Vitrea
08-10-17, 08:48
All this chat about Webcams reminds me. There is a new Netflix series called Turned on. It is a well made series of documentaries on topics related to modern day sexual issues. One of the episodes is about recruiting porn stars and webcam modeling. My take home message from that series is that girls that make money work very hard, over 8 hours a day and seven days a week and it takes consistent hard work to build a client base and an ex penthouse model goes on record to say that she makes $160,000 a year. Very interesting series. There is one episode about Tinder dating. I don't do either so I don't know first hand but I am fascinated to hear some posters saying that there are girls in Medellin making more than twice that. Good for them.

JjBee62
08-10-17, 20:28
All this chat about Webcams reminds me. There is a new Netflix series called Turned on. It is a well made series of documentaries on topics related to modern day sexual issues. One of the episodes is about recruiting porn stars and webcam modeling. My take home message from that series is that girls that make money work very hard, over 8 hours a day and seven days a week and it takes consistent hard work to build a client base and an ex penthouse model goes on record to say that she makes $160,000 a year. Very interesting series. There is one episode about Tinder dating. I don't do either so I don't know first hand but I am fascinated to hear some posters saying that there are girls in Medellin making more than twice that. Good for them.There was another Netflix series that might have been part of Turned On, Hot Girls Wanted.

Here's the problem: There are several different sex work jobs for women. Exotic dancer, Model, Porn actress, Prostitute and Webcam model. While some of the skills in one help in another, they are not all interchangeable. Ever got a stripper who was a great dancer, but the sex was nothing special?

If you read the post below, which I don't recommend, Model the is a good example to use. As a model, she is great. Three different photographers have told me she is an incredible model. But a webcam model is about personal interaction, not about posing. She is no longer competitive because she just poses.

I've seen Playboy and Penthouse models in strip clubs who are boring. They don't have the skills. The women who make it to the top in nude modeling have one set of skills. They may have others which let them move to porn, dancing or webcam, but success in one doesn't guarantee success in another.

Right now webcam is the growth industry. Porn is trying to get onboard, because it has been stagnant. In the not too distant future, webcam and prostitution will do a partial merge. Technology is very close. Webcam is already starting to drift away from the pure sex aspect and more towards mainstream entertainment.

Hours worked is tough to calculate. Yesterday, after breakfast, my roommate looked in 6 stores to find the perfect top for last night's show. Afterwards we went to a sex store to look for a costume for another show. Didn't find the right one, but she found something for a completely different show. We then stopped at 2 other stores looking for show related items. While walking between stores we talked about different show ideas. How much of that is work? There's also an hour before and 30 minutes after of setup and teardown. Actual on camera time was 4 hours. Today has been spent taking selfies and getting my opinion and discussing the different shows. Some days she spends only 30 minutes deciding on the show.

If I measure just the time from when she starts putting on makeup and getting ready, to when she's taking off makeup, no more than 30 hours per week. She usually does 5 shows about 4 hours long plus prep and finish time. If I include everything, probably 90 hours, but most of that is while living her normal life.

Wolf662
08-11-17, 01:58
Booked kinda last minute my flight back in Feb was American Airlines TPA-MIA-MDE $471. I was stupid and parked at the airport long term, turned out that was $19 a day, ouch.

When I flew down in June I did VivaColombia for $230, MIA-MDE-luggage incl. (You can get VivaColombia as low as $180 outa Miami if you can book the right days.) Parking at the Airport Hilton was $6. 50 a day. You have to book thru their website:

https://www.vivacolombia.co/en-co

Copa does Orlando-MDE for $260+- (via Panama City).

https://www.copaair.com/en/web/us

My next trip is on Spirit, TPA-FLL-MDE $306-luggage included.

Insert boo! Here, everybody hates Spirit, personally I think they are going to be way better when I flew Air Uzbekistan, flying in 1970's era Aeroflot cast-off YAK-40's with 1 bald landing gear tire, no seat belts and a choice of prune juice or tomato juice-their motto, "It's always scary!

Parking off property near TPA long term lot $5. 75 a day.

But I was looking into flying one of my sweeties up here next year and looking in April I actually found American Airlines for $307 MDE-MIA-TPA.

Any other airlines to consider for low fares?

YippieKayay
08-11-17, 03:14
Hours worked is tough to calculate. Yesterday, after breakfast, my roommate looked in 6 stores to find the perfect top for last night's show. Afterwards we went to a sex store to look for a costume for another show. Didn't find the right one, but she found something for a completely different show. We then stopped at 2 other stores looking for show related items. While walking between stores we talked about different show ideas. How much of that is work? There's also an hour before and 30 minutes after of setup and teardown. Actual on camera time was 4 hours. Today has been spent taking selfies and getting my opinion and discussing the different shows. Some days she spends only 30 minutes deciding on the show.
I really hope your not funding all of this with your retirement savings. Running around with a hooker for hours buying dildos and shit.

I am not trying to sound like an asshole. Cities like Medellin are breeding grounds for fantasies. Be careful.

JjBee62
08-11-17, 06:31
I really hope your not funding all of this with your retirement savings. Running around with a hooker for hours buying dildos and shit.

I am not trying to sound like an asshole. Cities like Medellin are breeding grounds for fantasies. Be careful.First off, I wasn't running around with a hooker. If you haven't grasped the difference yet, I can't help you. If you don't think there is a difference. Well we don't have much to talk about.

Let me think. I paid for the cab, 7200 pesos I think. My roommate bought breakfast, because she didn't have cash and wanted to use her card. She bought 2 shirts, she bought 1 costume and no dildos. We then checked out a few more stores on the way back to Avenida Poblado. Once there I hit an ATM, pulled out 720 k, first withdrawal in almost a month. I was down to under 300 k in cash. Then we walked down Avenida Poblado to PanAmericana where she bought a few other items. Next stopped at CC Santa Fe for lunch at Mitos. I paid for that, 32 k. Walked out of Santa Fe, caught a taxi home, which I paid 6100 for. My total expenditure for the day 45,300 COP, which included 2 meals.

I pay for taxis slightly over half the time, but meals, groceries and drinks are split evenly. I never buy anything for her shows, that I don't get reimbursed for. If I go to lunch with my boss, I almost never pay for anything.

Currently I'm spending about $600 per month including all expenses, food and entertainment. My income is more than enough to cover it. I think I'll be alright for a little while.

As for fantasies, don't you think I'd be getting laid more if this is just some fantasy? Probably at least a few 3 somes as well. Instead, I'm averaging about 1 session every week and all but 1 through the standard Medellin P4P scene. If it's a fantasy, it's not my best work.

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YippieKayay
08-11-17, 13:06
First off, I wasn't running around with a hooker. If you haven't grasped the difference yet, I can't help you. If you don't think there is a difference. Well we don't have much to talk about.
All I am saying is a 50 year old shopping for dildos with his webcam 'model' roommate is a bit much. But to each his own. I mean we just had someone talk about their dick pic sexting in the main thread and how quickly that went south.

Be careful. If your numbers are real on what these women are making you are going to attract attention. You don't get to bring in tens of thousands of dollars a month without someone greedy noticing.

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08-11-17, 17:40
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JjBee62
08-11-17, 17:54
All I am saying is a 50 year old shopping for dildos with his webcam 'model' roommate is a bit much. But to each his own. I mean we just had someone talk about their dick pic sexting in the main thread and how quickly that went south.

Be careful. If your numbers are real on what these women are making you are going to attract attention. You don't get to bring in tens of thousands of dollars a month without someone greedy noticing.Lmao. You seem to be fixated on dildos. No dildos were shopped for, although we did get a laugh over a giant Hitachi. She doesn't need to buy dildos. One of her viewers will buy her anything she wants. And why the quotes around model? You're welcome to hit me up whenever you're in town. I think I can put an end to your doubts. If I remember correctly, I dropped you a PM a while back offering to meet up.

I'm not too worried about attracting greedy people. I'm more at risk from the mongers I meet, than from anyone else.

Balboa
08-11-17, 18:45
The person behind the profile JjBee62 is considered mentally ill I have got info. From mongers met him, and they can't stand him. Jack, you seem like an ok guy, very philosophical and rambling at times, but with a decent heart.

If you don't like JjBee's replies, posts, advice, etc, just ignore him.

What you should do is just consider his advice, take what you like and discard the rest.

I always found it prudent to run an idea by various people and hear their opinions.

Never hurts to hear what advice others may have.

It doesn't mean you have to follow it, you ultimately make your own decisions right?

As far as Webcam girls and income goes, I get it and find it fascinating that some girls have found a niche to make good money.

There are plenty of guys stuck in pussy prison, if they find paying a beautiful and sexy girl to interact with them comforting and satisfying, good for them and the girl as well.

Fulfills a need.

JjBee has found an "in" to live and enjoy Colombia.

Good for him.

I hope you find you're "in" as well.

There's enough for all of us.

I like you better as a philosopher than an angry argumentative guy.

Peace brotha.

YippieKayay
08-11-17, 18:48
I'm not too worried about attracting greedy people. I'm more at risk from the mongers I meet, than from anyone else.If you are so at risk from us, which seems really misplaced, why are you PMing people on the boards like me when we are in town? I didn't take you up because it was my final night and I had already made plans. But this type of talk is bordering on nonsense. For the most part the few people I met off this board have been helpful and haven't had any ulterior motives. In fact I suspect many of them would probably help a fellow monger out if there was trouble.

Also why post all these details about yourself if you think we are some kind of risk. You used to post useful info before this whole webcam business. Now it's a constant stream of, honestly, defensive posturing and grandiose proclamations. You also go out of your way to belittle people (and yeah I can be guilty of that too sometimes).

Something isn't right and you should look into it. I notice you get very defensive and protective of this 'roommate. ' She is almost an untouchable figure.

Clear your head man. You used to post useful information. Now you are getting me worried.

Balboa
08-11-17, 18:59
If you are so at risk from us, which seems really misplaced, why are you PMing people on the boards like me when we are in town? I didn't take you up because it was my final night and I had already made plans. But this type of talk is bordering on nonsense. For the most part the few people I met off this board have been helpful and haven't had any ulterior motives. In fact I suspect many of them would probably help a fellow monger out if there was trouble.

Also why post all these details about yourself if you think we are some kind of risk. You used to post useful info before this whole webcam business. Now it's a constant stream of, honestly, defensive posturing and grandiose proclamations. You also go out of your way to belittle people (and yeah I can be guilty of that too sometimes).

Something isn't right and you should look into it. I notice you get very defensive and protective of this 'roommate. ' She is almost an untouchable figure.

Clear your head man. You used to post useful information. Now you are getting me worried.I disagree, this board always migrates into a discussion about some off topic or another.

The Webcam subject is no different.

His Webcam roommate is his business, I wouldn't post any more info on her either if I was in his shoes.

Protective is a good thing.

He's posting in a chit chat thread.

Let the chit chat roll.

Peace.

Fun Luvr
08-11-17, 20:46
I don't think there is any way to verify or disprove JjBee62's assertions about the earnings of his webcam friends. But doing a little searching on the Internet, I came up with the following information. There was an Lalexpo convention in Cartagena last month, as JjBee62 said. At that convention, they awarded the title of World's Best Token Page Model. I suppose webcam model fits in the category of token page model. A lady whose stage name is Molly Brooke won that award. Molly is listed on some websites as the top webcam model in Colombia. Here is where the information gets interesting. Molly is reported to be connected to the web an average of 36 hours per week, has an average of 5,000 users per day, and earns 25,000,000 pesos per month. That equals to about $100,000 per year. That's a good salary for many people anywhere in the world, and especially in Colombia. But that's almost poverty compared to JjBee62's friends. Those models in Poblado must be the most watched unknown people in the world.

Wolf662
08-11-17, 23:08
My main MDE girly from Conejitas it out of town working down in the islands. Waaah.

So going out again with the 1st girlie I met in MDE, my hottie redhead Sofi (met her on SA). She is a spitfire in bed.

She is going to bring her friend with her to play too. (Per my request, LOL. That'll teach her to post friends pics on FB! Yea! We'll do dinner, then some dancing, then to a love hotel with a Jacuzzi for some more fun! I think I am going to try 3 the Suites this time, their rooms look nice.

Only issue we had last time was when her hair is wet it turns sheets and pillow cases red. LOL. I turned the pillowcases inside out and turned the sheets over last time at Eros love hotel. Then back at my hotel I tipped the maid to ignore the red pillowcases. LOL.

I am getting psyched! Woohooo!

http://sexosentido.co/hotel-3d-suite-medellin/habitaciones/

Paulie97
08-12-17, 00:36
I don't think there is any way to verify or disprove JjBee62's assertions about the earnings of his webcam friends. But doing a little searching on the Internet, I came up with the following information. There was an Lalexpo convention in Cartagena last month, as JjBee62 said. At that convention, they awarded the title of World's Best Token Page Model. I suppose webcam model fits in the category of token page model. A lady whose stage name is Molly Brooke won that award. Molly is listed on some websites as the top webcam model in Colombia. Here is where the information gets interesting. Molly is reported to be connected to the web an average of 36 hours per week, has an average of 5,000 users per day, and earns 25,000,000 pesos per month. That equals to about $100,000 per year. That's a good salary for many people anywhere in the world, and especially in Colombia. But that's almost poverty compared to JjBee62's friends. Those models in Poblado must be the most watched unknown people in the world.JBee will pull plenty of song and dance out of his ass to get around that. At the end of the day, he only wants attention in the only place he has a chance of getting it, the internet. Don't give it to him.

Paulie97
08-12-17, 00:57
Now it's a constant stream of, honestly, defensive posturing and grandiose proclamations. You also go out of your way to belittle people
Something isn't right and you should look into it. I notice you get very defensive and protective of this 'roommate. ' She is almost an untouchable figure.
Clear your head man..The guy is fine as long as you sit at his feet letting him spoon feed you his unsurpassable wisdom. It's only when challenged that the problems begin, ie. The defensive posturing and grandiose proclamations. The guy would have made a good religious leader, missed his calling. Lololol.

JjBee62
08-12-17, 01:19
If you are so at risk from us, which seems really misplaced, why are you PMing people on the boards like me when we are in town? I didn't take you up because it was my final night and I had already made plans. But this type of talk is bordering on nonsense. For the most part the few people I met off this board have been helpful and haven't had any ulterior motives. In fact I suspect many of them would probably help a fellow monger out if there was trouble.

Also why post all these details about yourself if you think we are some kind of risk. You used to post useful info before this whole webcam business. Now it's a constant stream of, honestly, defensive posturing and grandiose proclamations. You also go out of your way to belittle people (and yeah I can be guilty of that too sometimes).

Something isn't right and you should look into it. I notice you get very defensive and protective of this 'roommate. ' She is almost an untouchable figure.

Clear your head man. You used to post useful information. Now you are getting me worried.That's always the problem with this medium, nuance doesn't translate well. I don't fear anything from other mongers. Worst case, one or the other is boring or obnoxious.

As for the webcam business, it was brought up and questioned, so I elaborated.

Now to my roommate. I consider her to be a good friend. I'm pretty sure she feels the same. If someone goes out of their way to insult my friends, I get defensive. Do you consider that wrong? Maybe I'm just old fashioned.

I will try to get back to being more helpful.

JjBee62
08-12-17, 01:44
I don't think there is any way to verify or disprove JjBee62's assertions about the earnings of his webcam friends. But doing a little searching on the Internet, I came up with the following information. There was an Lalexpo convention in Cartagena last month, as JjBee62 said. At that convention, they awarded the title of World's Best Token Page Model. I suppose webcam model fits in the category of token page model. A lady whose stage name is Molly Brooke won that award. Molly is listed on some websites as the top webcam model in Colombia. Here is where the information gets interesting. Molly is reported to be connected to the web an average of 36 hours per week, has an average of 5,000 users per day, and earns 25,000,000 pesos per month. That equals to about $100,000 per year. That's a good salary for many people anywhere in the world, and especially in Colombia. But that's almost poverty compared to JjBee62's friends. Those models in Poblado must be the most watched unknown people in the world.Your information came from an article in SoHo magazine, with information from Juan Bustos. Nice guy and one of the big names in the Colombian webcam business. The website MyFreeCams has a monthly contest for their top model. Winner gets $1000. They list the top 250 models on the contest. Not too long ago, a glitch in their system also listed each model's token earnings for that pay period. They pay twice per month. At the end of each pay period, all tokens are converted to cash and paid to the models. The link below, from Juan Bustos website, shows the top 20 models. The top 4 all made over $50,000 for the pay period, or over $100,000 for the month.

https://juanbustos.com/mfc-top-20-models-make-a-lot-of-money/

Combo
08-12-17, 08:07
I don't think there is any way to verify or disprove JjBee62's assertions about the earnings of his webcam friends. But doing a little searching on the Internet, I came up with the following information. There was an Lalexpo convention in Cartagena last month, as JjBee62 said. At that convention, they awarded the title of World's Best Token Page Model. I suppose webcam model fits in the category of token page model. A lady whose stage name is Molly Brooke won that award. Molly is listed on some websites as the top webcam model in Colombia. Here is where the information gets interesting. Molly is reported to be connected to the web an average of 36 hours per week, has an average of 5,000 users per day, and earns 25,000,000 pesos per month. That equals to about $100,000 per year. That's a good salary for many people anywhere in the world, and especially in Colombia. But that's almost poverty compared to JjBee62's friends. Those models in Poblado must be the most watched unknown people in the world.Those numbers seem more likely to me. That said, I don't know a thing about the webcam industry. And I don't know why anyone would do it. Though I guess there's no risk of pregnancy or STDs!

ShooBree
08-12-17, 19:32
Well, if someone moved in with me I wouldn't pay all the rent just because my expenses didn't double. Just as I wouldn't expect someone else to pay the rent if I moved in with him / her.

Secondly, camgirls are hardcore. No "normal" or "good" girl would expose herself for the entire world to see like the camgirls do.

Thirdly, I have no problems to understand what CJ writes in English. On the other side neither I nor CJ are native English speakers. I'm also pretty certain that few native English speakers speak two languages as good as CJ does.

Balboa
08-12-17, 20:05
I don't think there is any way to verify or disprove JjBee62's assertions about the earnings of his webcam friends..Why would he lie about it, and what does it really matter anyway?

Balboa
08-12-17, 20:07
Secondly, camgirls are hardcore. No "normal" or "good" girl would expose herself for the entire world to see like the camgirls do..I guess you're the authority on what a "normal" or "good" girl is.
Thanks for enlightening us.

Balboa
08-12-17, 20:11
Those numbers seem more likely to me. That said, I don't know a thing about the webcam industry. And I don't know why anyone would do it. Though I guess there's no risk of pregnancy or STDs!Do you think they do it for the money possibly? Lol.
Why else?

Mr Enternational
08-12-17, 20:26
Secondly, camgirls are hardcore. No "normal" or "good" girl would expose herself for the entire world to see like the camgirls do.So what does hardcore mean? I know a few cam girls. They are not hookers at all. They are just regular quiet chicks that need money. They finally turned to camming after exhausting their options. Some are university students as well. A lot of them do it for companies that block their site or block the girl's account in countries that she has friends or relatives.

ShooBree
08-12-17, 22:25
So what does hardcore mean? I know a few cam girls. They are not hookers at all. They are just regular quiet chicks that need money. They finally turned to camming after exhausting their options. Some are university students as well. A lot of them do it for companies that block their site or block the girl's account in countries that she has friends or relatives.I mean hardcore in the sense that they are exposing themselves for the world to see in a way which even few prostitutes (that I've met) would. To block Colombia doesn't help very much when someone put their pics and vids all over the web.

My other point is that I don't see the big difference between camgirls and prostitutes that some people like to paint. I've met several university students working in the puticlubs during the summer in Spain.

JjBee62
08-13-17, 00:22
So what does hardcore mean? I know a few cam girls. They are not hookers at all. They are just regular quiet chicks that need money. They finally turned to camming after exhausting their options. Some are university students as well. A lot of them do it for companies that block their site or block the girl's account in countries that she has friends or relatives.All the cam sites I'm familiar with allow the models to block content from any country. For the US they allow individual states to be blocked. With every website except 1, using a VPN will bypass the block.

I'm not sure what he means by hardcore either. Granted, the easy way to get a little money on webcam is to go straight to dildos, anal, etc. There are a lot of studios that do that. Convert a cheap building to 20 tiny rooms, toss in a cheap mattress, and stick a girl in each room for 8 hours. Pay the girls $30 - $40 per day and keep the rest. These are the equivalent of the girls you'll find working the streets in Centro or Mayorista. Most of them are interchangeable, camgirl or hooker.

Not all girls, or studios fit into that category. For anyone interested, the current top Colombian model is probably DulceMoon. Ranked #12 on MyFreeCams. That probably puts her monthly earnings around $65,000 USD.

YippieKayay
08-13-17, 09:27
I'm not sure what he means by hardcore either.You don't know what someone means when they say a working girl is hardcore? When you are done typing statements like that is there even the smallest part of you that realizes how absurd that sounds?



Not all girls, or studios fit into that category. For anyone interested, the current top Colombian model is probably DulceMoon. Ranked #12 on MyFreeCams. That probably puts her monthly earnings around $65,000 USD.You are off by a factor of 10. She probably earns 6,500 a month before expenses. Which is great in Colombia.


Why would he lie about it, and what does it really matter anyway?

Because he likes to believe this fantasy so he fulfills some of it by writing out big posts detailing everything. You have never met someone and who will endlessly talk about their nonexistent success?

JjBee62
08-13-17, 17:05
You don't know what someone means when they say a working girl is hardcore? When you are done typing statements like that is there even the smallest part of you that realizes how absurd that sounds?

You are off by a factor of 10. She probably earns 6,500 a month before expenses. Which is great in Colombia.

Because he likes to believe this fantasy so he fulfills some of it by writing out big posts detailing everything. You have never met someone and who will endlessly talk about their nonexistent success?You have never met me either.

When someone tells me a particular prostitute is hardcore, unless I know him, I don't know what he means. Is she hardcore because she gives a PSE instead of a GFE? Is she hardcore because she does BBFS with anyone? Is she hardcore because she's jaded and just wants to do the least possible for the money? Maybe she's hardcore because she does some extreme fetish stuff.

Without some context, I'm not certain what he means. This is more difficult, because he said every camgirl is hardcore. If I told you every prostitute, including those "semi-pros", was hardcore, would you know what I meant? I wouldn't.

There are models who are using 3 different sex toys simultaneously. There are models who do on cam gangbangs and orgies. There are models who never show any nudity. There are models who play the guitar topless and sing. Which definition of hardcore fits all these models?

I'm not sure what I did to make you an adversary YK. But as I said I'm not here to please everyone.

https://juanbustos.com/mfc-top-20-models-make-a-lot-of-money/

As mentioned before, not too long ago, a glitch in the software at MyFreeCams, listed the period monthly tokens earned by the top 250 models for that period. A period is from the 1st day of a month to the 15th, or from the 16th to the last day of the month. So the amounts listed are roughly one half of each model's earnings.

The same glitch, also listed archived model earnings back to 2009. For awhile that information was available at a few different sites, but MFC has been requesting removal. Without a more exhaustive search, this is the only one that is still around. It's also from a source who I trust. He's frequently contacted by the Colombian press as a source for stories about the webcam industry, he's a leading figure in the webcam world, and I've shook his hand and had a few talks with him.

According to what was revealed in that glitch, the #12 model made 621,923 tokens for that period. 1 token = $0.05 to the model. Double that to approximate monthly earnings and her monthly earnings in dollars was $62,192.30.

I was able to find a video which shows the top 20 MFC models for each month back to 2009. It also shows top 100 rankings, with token earnings for at least some months of 2015, the year the glitch occurred. The number directly below the ranking is the end of month period token earnings. For Feb 2015, the #100 model made over 262,000 tokens for the 2nd period of February, about $26,200 for the month.

https://youtu.be/zn372cRuqXM

Look at the first link for a quick snapshot, watch the video if you want a more detailed history.

Or around the 20th of the month, find out who is the leader of the rankings on MFC. Watch that model for the rest of the month. See how much she makes in public tips. On that website people can send hidden tips, only the model sees the amount. Popular models also get about 10% of their earnings from offline tips and sale of content. In 10 days you will have an idea how much a top model makes.

If you want a closer approximation, check out the top models on Chaturbate. Keep track of their tips for a few days. Do the math.

The reason I write long, detailed post is to provide details. I prefer to give the tools and information so people can make informed decisions. That way you don't have to believe me. You can discover the facts on your own.

Fantasy? I've read thousands of reviews here and quite a few appear to be complete fantasy. Others are the occasional review-ad for a Bogota escort agency. As fantasies go, this would be pretty boring.

This started months ago, when someone posted that all the webcam models are available for P4P. I responded. More recently a few have decided to insult all webcam models. I respond, just as I have responded when people insult all prostitutes or all women.

I speak about it from knowledge and experience. I've opened the books and placed them before you. The knowledge is right in front of you. You can decide what to do with it.

And that's all I have to say about that.

Fun Luvr
08-13-17, 17:55
Why would he lie about it, and what does it really matter anyway?Why do people lie about being associated with famous people? It gives them prestige until the truth is exposed. As for what difference does it make, most of us come to this forum with the expectation of getting factual information.

Balboa
08-14-17, 06:07
Why do people lie about being associated with famous people? It gives them prestige until the truth is exposed. As for what difference does it make, most of us come to this forum with the expectation of getting factual information.Oh Ok, he's going to lie about befriending and rooming with a Webcam girl to get prestige, and then lie about Webcam earnings.

I'm sure lots of guys are truly needing exact factual Webcam girl income figures as well.

Not sure what the hostility is about the Webcam subject, unless maybe someone is remorseful about over spending on Tokens last week, LOL.

Peace amigo, not that big of a deal.

MedellinGringo
08-14-17, 06:57
Granted, the easy way to get a little money on webcam is to go straight to dildos, anal, etc. There are a lot of studios that do that. Convert a cheap building to 20 tiny rooms, toss in a cheap mattress, and stick a girl in each room for 8 hours. Pay the girls $30 - $40 per day and keep the rest. These are the equivalent of the girls you'll find working the streets in Centro or Mayorista.

Most girls working the streets in el centro or Mayorista can't even make 30 to 40 bucks a day in an 8 hour period doing webcams. So you would be out of business very fast.

My girlfriend that I lived with in Cali for over a year was a webcam girl on MFC and she made 50 bucks an hour on average for every hour she spent in front of the cam. I opened a studio account with MyFreeCams and had anywhere from 3 to 5 other chicks working the cams and rarely did all the other women combined ever earn more than what my girlfriend earned per hour.

In most industries 20 percent of your employees earn you 80 percent of your profits. In webcams it is more like 10 percent earn you 90 percent of your profits.

I have to say I have never been interested in porn. And was quite shocked to find out what some of the top performers make on MFCs.

It is impossible to know for sure what any single performer makes unless she works for you or she shows you her account.

But my girl had a webcam score of around 5000 and made 50 bucks an hour so I would think girls with a 25,000 cam score would be bringing in at least 250 bucks an hour.

Here is a chick that could be working in el centro:

https://profiles.myfreecams.com/KLEIIO

She has a webcam score of 386 and is probably making about 4 bucks and hour doing webcams.

Fun Luvr
08-14-17, 15:21
Not sure what the hostility is about the Webcam subject, unless maybe someone is remorseful about over spending on Tokens last week, LOL.Most of the hostility is coming from you. I presented information from the Internet, and you took offense to it.

FYI, I have never spent as much as one penny for webcam shows. I have been around long enough to remember the peep show booths in NYC. I never spend any money for those either.

JjBee62
08-14-17, 19:03
Most of the hostility is coming from you. I presented information from the Internet, and you took offense to it.

FYI, I have never spent as much as one penny for webcam shows. I have been around long enough to remember the peep show booths in NYC. I never spend any money for those either.There's a problem with information from the internet. It's not always reliable. Oftentimes it's deliberately slanted to support one viewpoint. Other times things are changed to protect people. It can be tricky finding the right answers.

The SoHo article your information came from falls in the last category, at least in my opinion. The source of the article wants his models to be on cam 8 hours per day. This was a topic we discussed over lunch yesterday. The models I work with, I don't want online more than 6 hours and I prefer 4. Molly Brooke doesn't work for him. None of the models in that article work for him to the best of my knowledge. The income numbers he gave are very low and he knows this. Other entries on his website, including the one I linked, confirm this.

I've personally seen a single tip of 50,000, of 44,000, and perhaps 20 between 15,000 - 30,000. I've heard of single tips of 999,999, of 1,200,000, and 1,100,000. Tips of over 2000 tokens are uncommon. Tips of 1000 - 2000 I see daily.

All of this is something you'll never believe, which has zero effect on my income. Anyone with questions or doubts, or who just wants a wingman for a few hours can always hit me up.

Balboa
08-14-17, 20:26
Most of the hostility is coming from you. I presented information from the Internet, and you took offense to it.

FYI, I have never spent as much as one penny for webcam shows. I have been around long enough to remember the peep show booths in NYC. I never spend any money for those either.Haha, hostile? Me? That's funny.

Anyway, whatever, all good.

Have a great day and happy hunting!

Peace.

YippieKayay
08-17-17, 11:43
I'll be in Colombia in a couple of weeks and for the first time Medellin won't be on my itinerary. Actually I have made Cartagena only trips before so it's not the first time, but certainly the first time I spent almost two weeks in Colombia without spending a weekend in Medellin. The plan is visit Bogota for the first weekend and stay in Cartagena the following week. As many of you know there's a papal visit in Colombia during labor day week. I asked a couple of chicas in Cartagena if it would affect things and they both thought I was hilarious. I was assured pussy would continue to flow.

I decided to prepare for the worst, so as some of you may remember, I've had the cunning idea of getting a Medellin casa girl to go to Cartagena with me to save on money. On my last trip there was a chica I was inviting over for nooners and barebacking like the cerdo that I am. Her only problem was she was unreliable. Her attitude was so so, and I didn't care about attitude so much with her. I'd happily bend her over, fuck her while she watches TV. But unreliability sucked. I asked her if she wanted to come to Cartagena. She jumped on the idea. I told her when I 'd be there and what dates she wanted to visit on. She wanted the entire week. She asked me to send money for a bathing suit and I will probably break my rule of not sending money. She's going to need cash for beach things, a visit to the beauty salon, and cab fare.

I have only two concerns:

Will she be able to get on a plane? She has never flown before.

Will she not let me fuck other chicas? I told her I had a venezuelan I'd be screwing too and she wasn't against the idea but seemed a little let down by it. My hope is by day 3 she gets tired of the constant fucking and sets me loose hahaha.

Fun Luvr
08-17-17, 14:35
I have only two concerns:

Will she be able to get on a plane? She has never flown before.

Will she not let me fuck other chicas? I told her I had a venezuelan I'd be screwing too and she wasn't against the idea but seemed a little let down by it. My hope is by day 3 she gets tired of the constant fucking and sets me loose hahaha.If she has her Colombian ID and is 18 or over, she should have no problem getting on the plane.

If she shows up, she will probably be tired of fucking you by day 3, or before, but that doesn't mean she will not try to control you. It's your decision, but I would not take an unreliable chica with a poor attitude on a trip. If you are dead set on doing it, I think you should plan for three days with her. If she turns out to be great and meets all your desires, you can change plans and change her return ticket.

Buckinup
08-17-17, 14:42
Her only problem was she was unreliable. Her attitude was so soAnd you want to pay for her to fly to Cartagena and stay with her for a week? It could come up all roses for you, but I wouldn't put any money down for it to go well.

YippieKayay
08-17-17, 15:09
If she has her Colombian ID and is 18 or over, she should have no problem getting on the plane.

If she shows up, she will probably be tired of fucking you by day 3, or before, but that doesn't mean she will not try to control you. It's your decision, but I would not take an unreliable chica with a poor attitude on a trip. If you are dead set on doing it, I think you should plan for three days with her. If she turns out to be great and meets all your desires, you can change plans and change her return ticket.Good advice. Unfortunately avianca is expensive around this time. I think its because of the Pope running around and people flying out to see him. I'll assume she's good for the whole week. I've known her for six months now, visited her twice, and her behavior has always been complacent and sweet. Her poor attitude is more like doing dumb shit like watching TV while I fuck her. Oddly enough I've come to enjoy it. I'm going to get her to cook me breakfast and see if I can fuck her while she's cooking hahahaha. I'm fucked up like that.

ColombiaLover
08-17-17, 20:11
Let me re-address the first question, as I think it goes beyond the question of ID. I have met many Colombianas who are deathly afraid of flying. I had one girl who agree to go with me to Cartagena and then backed out on my two days before the flight because she admitted she was just too afraid to fly. She offered to take the bus, but I declined.

Just be sure you ask her if she is comfortable flying for the first time. It will help if you are with her (not just meeting here there) and you tell her you can give her something to relax her (booze or muscle relaxer).


If she has her Colombian ID and is 18 or over, she should have no problem getting on the plane.

If she shows up, she will probably be tired of fucking you by day 3, or before, but that doesn't mean she will not try to control you. It's your decision, but I would not take an unreliable chica with a poor attitude on a trip. If you are dead set on doing it, I think you should plan for three days with her. If she turns out to be great and meets all your desires, you can change plans and change her return ticket.

Fun Luvr
08-18-17, 02:21
Unfortunately avianca is expensive around this time. Have you checked VivaColombia? It should be much cheaper than Aviana.

Wolf662
08-18-17, 21:35
I decided to prepare for the worst, so as some of you may remember, I've had the cunning idea of getting a Medellin casa girl to go to Cartagena with me to save on money. On my last trip there was a chica I was inviting over for nooners and barebacking like the cerdo that I am. Her only problem was she was unreliable. Her attitude was so so, and I didn't care about attitude so much with her. I'd happily bend her over, fuck her while she watches TV. But unreliability sucked. I asked her if she wanted to come to Cartagena. She jumped on the idea. I told her when I 'd be there and what dates she wanted to visit on. She wanted the entire week. She asked me to send money for a bathing suit and I will probably break my rule of not sending money. She's going to need cash for beach things, a visit to the beauty salon, and cab fare..I can't imagine flying in a Cartagena girl to MDE, are the girls just not as fun / pretty / cheap in Cartagena or what? Or is this chick extra special? (which is hard to imagine if she watches TV during sex. LOL).

YippieKayay
08-19-17, 04:05
I can't imagine flying in a Cartagena girl to MDE, are the girls just not as fun / pretty / cheap in Cartagena or what? Or is this chick extra special? (which is hard to imagine if she watches TV during sex. LOL).In Cartagena most chicas will want 200 k+. You can get them at 150 k with some haggling but there's no 10 dollar pussy. Not even in the local brothels. The venues are typically expensive unless you pick up at the clocktower. It's the most expensive mongering venue in Colombia. It's also super convenient with more things to do. I'm tired of Medellin.

My idea is to get a cheap chica from Medellin (this one works out of a casa) to Cartagena and bang her for practically nothing. Planet ticket + food / drinks + a few hundred mil at the start for her shit. Most of these paisa putas haven't left the interior so going to Cartagena is a big deal for them. I have a couple of other chicas I fuck regularly there. They won't go below 200 k for short time, and I don't ask. Trying to haggle for less is a pain in the ass I find.

The upside of Cartagena compared to Medellin is that there's shit to do during the day. The casa scene isn't big and it's more flooded with chicas from all over Colombia and Venezuela. I read once that after 10 pm, in Cartagena, one in three women walking outside is a hooker. The clocktower plaza in the old city is really a site to behold at midnight; it literally is a crowd of working girls.

Worse case scenario I change her return ticket to be earlier. My only concern is her attitude when I'm bringing back other chicas to fuck. She better be a good sport or I send her back to Medellin.

Mr Enternational
08-19-17, 05:03
So if chicks in Cartagena go for 200 K and you have regulars from Medellin that you give 200 K to, what is the difference? It appears you just want a hole to stick your dick in judging from the description of your encounters with the girl you want to bring with you.

YippieKayay
08-19-17, 12:32
So if chicks in Cartagena go for 200 K and you have regulars from Medellin that you give 200 K to, what is the difference? It appears you just want a hole to stick your dick in judging from the description of your encounters with the girl you want to bring with you.200 k for short time in Cartagena. A plane ticket and a few hundred k for all you can eat if you fly her in. There's a difference.

Yes, I want a hole I can fuck (bareback) on a regular basis without shelling out 200 k everytime I get whorney. Hence, flying in pussy from a cheaper location.

Fun Luvr
08-19-17, 16:19
My idea is to get a cheap chica from Medellin (this one works out of a casa) to Cartagena and bang her for practically nothing. Planet ticket + food / drinks + a few hundred mil at the start for her shit. Have you told her that you are not planning to pay her? Most of the chicas I have met do not consider expenses and gifts as payment, especially if it is a chica that doesn't feel a special bond with the guy. It is your life, but I think you are setting yourself up for a bad vacation.

Don't be surprised, if after you have bought the plane ticket and given her money to buy things for the beach, she tells you that you must also pay her a daily allowance. At that point, she has nothing to lose if she stays home, and she has the beach things you paid for.

YippieKayay
08-19-17, 17:05
Have you told her that you are not planning to pay her? Most of the chicas I have met do not consider expenses and gifts as payment, especially if it is a chica that doesn't feel a special bond with the guy. It is your life, but I think you are setting yourself up for a bad vacation.

Don't be surprised, if after you have bought the plane ticket and given her money to buy things for the beach, she tells you that you must also pay her a daily allowance. At that point, she has nothing to lose if she stays home, and she has the beach things you paid for.What a bunch of negative nancies. I could also be hit by a tsunami.

JjBee62
08-19-17, 17:08
Have you told her that you are not planning to pay her? Most of the chicas I have met do not consider expenses and gifts as payment, especially if it is a chica that doesn't feel a special bond with the guy. It is your life, but I think you are setting yourself up for a bad vacation.

Don't be surprised, if after you have bought the plane ticket and given her money to buy things for the beach, she tells you that you must also pay her a daily allowance. At that point, she has nothing to lose if she stays home, and she has the beach things you paid for.I planned a similar situation once, elsewhere, except I was meeting her and travelling together to the beach. The closer it got to the trip, the more she was expecting. Night before meeting, I started adding it all up and figured my 3 days was probably going to cost above $500, not counting transportation and hotel.

Made my excuses early the next morning, made up a plan be and went to the FFP plan, Find, Fuck and Pay to leave. The next 6 days cost $500, transportation, lodging, food and women. Saved enough to extend my return flight for 2 days and still came in under budget.

Main difference, I was dealing with a "semi-pro" and he's looking for a casa girl.

Fun Luvr
08-19-17, 18:47
What a bunch of negative nancies. I could also be hit by a tsunami.As I said, it is your life. I was only pointing out some of the pitfalls you may encounter. But you already know everything, and I am just the pessimistic know-nothing. Have fun!

You cannot control tsunamis, but you should be able to control what you do.

YippieKayay
08-19-17, 19:02
As I said, it is your life. I was only pointing out some of the pitfalls you may encounter. But you already know everything, and I am just the pessimistic know-nothing. Have fun!

You cannot control tsunamis, but you should be able to control what you do.OK. I overreacted. Apologies.

Not concerned about handing her cash at the end. She knows I'm not paying her for her time but that doesn't change anything. She constantly asks for rent money and other shit which I never give her and she mostly stopped trying to pull that shit months ago. She knows if I get to fuck her like a cerdo she's going to get rewarded in the end.

Does it all come out to cheaper? For me it does. If you go back to some of my cartagena reports I've banged 4-6 chicas in one day. That adds up fucking quickly in Cartagena. In Medellin the brothels allow me to do 3 sessions during the day (morning, after lunch and after a snack) for cheap. I can't do that in Cartagena and it's annoying and expensive. Hence, I try to wife up in Cartagena. Only difference is this time I'm shipping one in.

Balboa
08-20-17, 02:11
OK. I overreacted. Apologies.

Not concerned about handing her cash at the end. She knows I'm not paying her for her time but that doesn't change anything. She constantly asks for rent money and other shit which I never give her and she mostly stopped trying to pull that shit months ago. She knows if I get to fuck her like a cerdo she's going to get rewarded in the end.

Does it all come out to cheaper? For me it does. If you go back to some of my cartagena reports I've banged 4-6 chicas in one day. That adds up fucking quickly in Cartagena. In Medellin the brothels allow me to do 3 sessions during the day (morning, after lunch and after a snack) for cheap. I can't do that in Cartagena and it's annoying and expensive. Hence, I try to wife up in Cartagena. Only difference is this time I'm shipping one in.Enjoy your excursion with the Paisa, Yippie.

Looks like you've got a back up plan, send her home early, LOL.

I personally would never do a "vacation", with a chica who wasn't really into me, even if she wasn't charging me.

Appears that doesn't matter to you, so enjoy, have fun, give us a full post battle report, LOL.

Buen viaje!

Wolf662
08-22-17, 18:56
Anybody in town for Labor Day weekend, the 1st weekend of every month is the craft fair in Parque Bolivar, downtown-they have lots of cool stuff for sale, many neat souvenirs.

That's the park in front of the big brick church, the Catedral Baslica Metropolitana de Medelland, Calle 56 & Ave Oriental.

Wolf662
08-22-17, 20:27
I know you have to order a bottle to sit at a table, anybody know what the small bottle of Aquardiente costs?

My wingman got the tab last time but he's not coming this time. LOL.

YippieKayay
08-24-17, 05:04
I know you have to order a bottle to sit at a table, anybody know what the small bottle of Aquardiente costs?

My wingman got the tab last time but he's not coming this time. LOL.Could have sworn it was 40 k in parque lleras but we're talking the small bottles. The medium sized ones were 70-80 k. It will of course be cheaper in centro.

edit: sorry. I didn't notice you wanted pricing at the strip club.

Wolf662
08-24-17, 05:12
Could have sworn it was 40 k in parque lleras but we're talking the small bottles. The medium sized ones were 70-80 k. It will of course be cheaper in centro.

edit: sorry. I didn't notice you wanted pricing at the strip club.Oh yeah, the small bottle is 16 k on the corner from my hotel in Centro, but FaseII, lords knows, I never even saw the bill, we had a bottle and my wingman bought at least half a dozen chicks drinks, must have been a arm and a freaking leg.

YippieKayay
08-29-17, 15:39
Enjoy your excursion with the Paisa, Yippie.
Well that went to shit fairly rapidly. She wanted rent money sent to her as a condition of getting on the plane. I didn't even bother to tell her to fuck herself. Instead I cancelled and refunded the ticket.

Going to be in Bogota tomorrow for a few days before Cartagena. I've been reading about the glut of Venezuelan pussy in Santa Fe. The great thing about Colombia is the pussy is endless. Too bad I only have one cock though.

Buckinup
08-29-17, 17:12
Well that went to shit fairly rapidly. Well no one saw that coming!

But like you said, no sweat in a place like Colombia.

Mr Enternational
08-29-17, 19:28
Well that went to shit fairly rapidly. She wanted rent money sent to her as a condition of getting on the plane. I didn't even bother to tell her to fuck herself. Instead I cancelled and refunded the ticket.
Wait a minute. But you said...

I guess experience is the best teacher. Maybe that will be the last time you invite a chick that plays with her phone and watches TV when you are fucking her along to go anywhere. At least it did not cost you as much as it could have.

JjBee62
08-29-17, 20:02
Well that went to shit fairly rapidly. She wanted rent money sent to her as a condition of getting on the plane. I didn't even bother to tell her to fuck herself. Instead I cancelled and refunded the ticket.

Going to be in Bogota tomorrow for a few days before Cartagena. I've been reading about the glut of Venezuelan pussy in Santa Fe. The great thing about Colombia is the pussy is endless. Too bad I only have one cock though.I think everyone has a "great plan" experience that everyone warns against, which falls apart. Next year when someone else plans a similar adventure you can join the "negative Nancies. " If nothing else, you've provided a learning experience for others.


What a bunch of negative nancies. I could also be hit by a tsunami.You should be safe from tsunamis while you're in Bogota.

YippieKayay
08-29-17, 20:02
Wait a minute. But you said...

I guess experience is the best teacher. Maybe that will be the last time you invite a chick that plays with her phone and watches TV when you are fucking her along to go anywhere. At least it did not cost you as much as it could have.Yes. I think I tried this once before with similar results. I'm not doing it again. One in maybe twenty of these prepagos are worth spending a thought on. That's my philosophy from now on. At least I didn't send dick pix and a million pesos. Hahaha.

Balboa
08-29-17, 20:40
Well that went to shit fairly rapidly. She wanted rent money sent to her as a condition of getting on the plane. I didn't even bother to tell her to fuck herself. Instead I cancelled and refunded the ticket.

Going to be in Bogota tomorrow for a few days before Cartagena. I've been reading about the glut of Venezuelan pussy in Santa Fe. The great thing about Colombia is the pussy is endless. Too bad I only have one cock though.Nice job though, canceling the ticket and ignoring her.

Silence goes a long way.

Jbj64
08-29-17, 20:52
I just setup a CC profile and have send some requests to some pretty ladies. I did get a reply that said she was looking for a serious relationship.

I guess my question is how to be diplomatic about wanting a one night stand or a girl friend for a few days?

Yes I am a newbie at some of these online sites like CC and SA.

JjBee62
08-30-17, 10:06
I just setup a CC profile and have send some requests to some pretty ladies. I did get a reply that said she was looking for a serious relationship.

I guess my question is how to be diplomatic about wanting a one night stand or a girl friend for a few days?

Yes I am a newbie at some of these online sites like CC and SA.If you're on Colombian Cupid you should also sign up on Latin American Cupid. Include a few pictures in your ad, mention your travel plans and start reaching out to the ones you like.

Any replies mentioning long term relationship reply with "I'm sorry. I will only be there for X days. I'm only looking for someone to have lunch or dinner with while I am there (or someone to show me the city). "

There will be a few who will go for lunch or dinner. You can decide if they are worth pursuing.

If your initial message stresses the short term tourist angle you'll get a few who'll quickly let you know they are available. Get them on Whatsapp as quick as possible. Anyone with a FEPSM (Family emergency, please send money) message should get a reply that you would be happy to give them money after you meet response. Or just don't reply.

CC and LAC aren't great options, but there are a few who are worth the effort.

MedellinGringo
08-31-17, 09:04
I just setup a CC profile and have send some requests to some pretty ladies. I did get a reply that said she was looking for a serious relationship.

I guess my question is how to be diplomatic about wanting a one night stand or a girl friend for a few days?

Yes I am a newbie at some of these online sites like CC and SA.You have to be careful about propositioning women outright on CC because you can get your account closed down if too many women complain.

The best way to use CC is to just meet the women in person and make them an offer if you like their looks and attitude.

But if you don't have time to use that kind of hit or miss approach then you should just make a profile that makes it obvious what you are looking for without coming right out and saying it.

Something along the lines of "I'm a generous gentleman that would like to meet an attractive woman for fun and adventure". There is very little chance of that being misinterpreted. And then you can openly discuss P4 P with any woman that responses to your profile without having to worry about your account being closed down.

Jbj64
09-02-17, 00:06
Is tinder any better with immediate results?


You have to be careful about propositioning women outright on CC because you can get your account closed down if too many women complain.

The best way to use CC is to just meet the women in person and make them an offer if you like their looks and attitude.

But if you don't have time to use that kind of hit or miss approach then you should just make a profile that makes it obvious what you are looking for without coming right out and saying it.

Something along the lines of "I'm a generous gentleman that would like to meet an attractive woman for fun and adventure". There is very little chance of that being misinterpreted. And then you can openly discuss P4 P with any woman that responses to your profile without having to worry about your account being closed down.

StripperMan
09-12-17, 00:19
I just did a 2-week trip to Bogota, and am going back in November. I'm trying to decide if it is a mistake not to book Medellin.

There is a reason gringos skip Bogota, and go right to Medellin. I'm wondering what that reason is?

My research says that Bogota has the same venues for chicas, and actually a higher volume of each. My research says there are more casas, escorts, strip clubs, clip-joint strip clubs, etc in Bogota than Medellin. My research also says the pricing is not that much cheaper if at all in Medellin (with the exception possibly being the north zone clip joints in Bogota).

So I am wondering why so many gringos have decided to skip Bogota and do Medellin? Maybe GFE is much more prevalent in Medellin than Bogota? That Bogota is one big "tourist trap" of poor service? Or maybe Bogota & the Santa Fe district are perceived as too dangerous? Or maybe my research on venues & pricing is flawed?

JjBee62
09-12-17, 05:55
I just did a 2-week trip to Bogota, and am going back in November. I'm trying to decide if it is a mistake not to book Medellin.

There is a reason gringos skip Bogota, and go right to Medellin. I'm wondering what that reason is?

My research says that Bogota has the same venues for chicas, and actually a higher volume of each. My research says there are more casas, escorts, strip clubs, clip-joint strip clubs, etc in Bogota than Medellin. My research also says the pricing is not that much cheaper if at all in Medellin (with the exception possibly being the north zone clip joints in Bogota).

So I am wondering why so many gringos have decided to skip Bogota and do Medellin? Maybe GFE is much more prevalent in Medellin than Bogota? That Bogota is one big "tourist trap" of poor service? Or maybe Bogota & the Santa Fe district are perceived as too dangerous? Or maybe my research on venues & pricing is flawed?Prices are about the same. There are a few advantages to Medellin.

The big one is the weather. Bogota can be chilly, especially at night. Can be cold when it's raining. Medellin is in low to mid 80's most days, high 60's at night.

Traffic is another issue. It's bad in Medellin, but worse in Bogota. It sucks sitting in a taxi realizing it would be quicker to walk.

Bogota elevation can be rough on the older, out of shape mongers. No fun gasping for air after 3 minutes. Medellin is about 4000' lower and easier to adjust to.

I think the average taxi is also cheaper in Medellin. Plus, the Metro is a cheap alternative and much better than the Transmilenio.

People overall are nicer and friendlier in Medellin. Bogota people aren't as outgoing. There's also a better gringo support network in Medellin.

There's no area that is a huge difference between the two, but the little differences all lean towards Medellin.

Combo
09-12-17, 06:00
I just did a 2-week trip to Bogota, and am going back in November. I'm trying to decide if it is a mistake not to book Medellin.

There is a reason gringos skip Bogota, and go right to Medellin. I'm wondering what that reason is?

My research says that Bogota has the same venues for chicas, and actually a higher volume of each. My research says there are more casas, escorts, strip clubs, clip-joint strip clubs, etc in Bogota than Medellin. My research also says the pricing is not that much cheaper if at all in Medellin (with the exception possibly being the north zone clip joints in Bogota).

So I am wondering why so many gringos have decided to skip Bogota and do Medellin? Maybe GFE is much more prevalent in Medellin than Bogota? That Bogota is one big "tourist trap" of poor service? Or maybe Bogota & the Santa Fe district are perceived as too dangerous? Or maybe my research on venues & pricing is flawed?Simple answer. WEATHER! I've been to Colombia many times and I've never bothered with Bogota because it's supposed to have dreary weather. Whereas MDE is close to ideal.

As far as women, Bogota might have more as it's significantly more populous than MDE. But MDE has enough.

Blue Touch
09-12-17, 16:17
Good answer.


Prices are about the same. There are a few advantages to Medellin.

The big one is the weather. Bogota can be chilly, especially at night. Can be cold when it's raining. Medellin is in low to mid 80's most days, high 60's at night.

Traffic is another issue. It's bad in Medellin, but worse in Bogota. It sucks sitting in a taxi realizing it would be quicker to walk.

Bogota elevation can be rough on the older, out of shape mongers. No fun gasping for air after 3 minutes. Medellin is about 4000' lower and easier to adjust to..

The Tall Man
09-12-17, 21:48
I just did a 2-week trip to Bogota, and am going back in November. I'm trying to decide if it is a mistake not to book Medellin.

There is a reason gringos skip Bogota, and go right to Medellin. I'm wondering what that reason is?

My research says that Bogota has the same venues for chicas, and actually a higher volume of each. My research says there are more casas, escorts, strip clubs, clip-joint strip clubs, etc in Bogota than Medellin. My research also says the pricing is not that much cheaper if at all in Medellin (with the exception possibly being the north zone clip joints in Bogota).

So I am wondering why so many gringos have decided to skip Bogota and do Medellin? Maybe GFE is much more prevalent in Medellin than Bogota? That Bogota is one big "tourist trap" of poor service? Or maybe Bogota & the Santa Fe district are perceived as too dangerous? Or maybe my research on venues & pricing is flawed?Some good opinions already made by some other verteran mongers, let me add my two cents:

I actually traveled to Bogota many times for about a three year period from 2009 through about 2011, I have some great experiences with rollo chicas, a few nights were off the charts as I partied like a rock star, but that was back 7 and 8 years ago and have not mongered in Bogota in over 5 years now as back in 2010 stated with the Paisas in medellin.

You can find plenty of suitable fun and adventurous chicas be it in medellin or Bogota, for me the weather in medellin hands-down blows away the cold and rainy Hi altitude medellin weather and is a big deciding factor for me and others.

I sit right now in my apartment in medellin and we had just a brief sprinkling of rain this morning but right now it is 70 f outside and I sit here in shorts with my balcony door fully opened.

As for chicas, we have a wide variety of venues, casas, prepagos, escorts, street walkers and the higher end clubs like La Isla and Fase Dos. Just a few hours ago I enjoyed a 20 yo escort, low mileage, cute and adorable, I paid 200,000 plus her taxi, her fee was 150,000 but since her service was GF like experience, and it was, I gave her a 50 mil propina. She was the third escort I have had over in the past 8 days. I will repeat with her.

The medellin casa girls can be had for about 50 mil to 100 mil depending the length of time and the casa.

I suggest that you visit medellin next trip, you will be back.

TTM.

Jbj64
09-14-17, 03:06
I thought I would post what I have experienced from SA girls in the last 2 weeks.

A lot are just looking to send pics or a video for a payment via western Union. I found one with her tag Mia rosse she is a 10 awesome body. She got me to send money for a video and then today she wanted more money, she said for a dress to meet me in and laungerie but I have some panties for the girls. So when I said no money until we meet she said no.

A few have stopped talking when I make it clear I want them to meet me at my hotel for a short time.

This sight is probably more of a YMMV if you are close to their age, which I am not. This method is harder than the strip clubs or massage house, it requires more time. Make sure to use WhatsApp and I use google translator it makes it easier. Not sure what's going to happen when I meet in person translation app are cumbersome to use while in a conversation.

I hope this helps.

Fubar1
09-16-17, 16:39
I thought I would post what I have experienced from SA girls in the last 2 weeks.

A lot are just looking to send pics or a video for a payment via western Union. I found one with her tag Mia rosse she is a 10 awesome body. She got me to send money for a video and then today she wanted more money, she said for a dress to meet me in and laungerie but I have some panties for the girls. So when I said no money until we meet she said no.

A few have stopped talking when I make it clear I want them to meet me at my hotel for a short time.

This sight is probably more of a YMMV if you are close to their age, which I am not. This method is harder than the strip clubs or massage house, it requires more time. Make sure to use WhatsApp and I use google translator it makes it easier. Not sure what's going to happen when I meet in person translation app are cumbersome to use while in a conversation.

I hope this helps.Disclaimers 1ST: I am a noob to this site, and am still in process of doing my homework here; however, not new to mongering. Therefore, please take my 2 cents and combine it with your specific knowledge about MDE area. Being a noob, I have two options. A) keep my mouth shut and learn from the senior members, or B) contribute, knowing senior members will chime in and correct me.

I decided to contribute.

I have utilized SA many times with mixed results. When screening for a SB on SA, the thing to keep in mind is that SA is no longer a new site. Word has gotten out, and all kinds of chickas flock there. Some of them are new and testing the waters. Some of them are genuinely looking for a SD. And, as you might expect, many are on the site to make a quick buck. Example: I found a couple of chicka profiles on SA that were obviously also on P411. LOL.

If a chicka hits you up for $ after a couple of days of chit chat on the phone with some story that she is desparate. That should be your queue to move on.

Why?

Common sense.

Reverse the situation. Imagine you were the chicka on SA. If you were genuinely looking for a long term SD, would you be hitting him up for $ two skype conversations later, never having met him face to face? What effect does that have on your longer term relationship with him, not to mention what expectations you might be setting yourself up for when you do meet face to face?

Consider that, and one will likely agree that probability of her genuinely wanting to meet you face to face just dropped by about 70 percentile.

In my experience, SA has some diamonds. But you have to put in a lot of time and effort in weeding out the riff raffs. That is why I choose not to hunt on SA much any more. Most I do is put my profile up with an upfront tag line, and see who bites. And if I do get a bite that seems genuine, I don't ask her for her lifestyle expectations. That is like asking a kid what kind of candy they want.

LOL. Instead, I like to take the lead and tell them what I am willing to commit to. Works better for me.

Hope that helps.

And thanks to everyone for the wealth of info on this site. Expecting to be in MDE in the next 45 days or so and check out some of the delicacies of your wonderfuly city.

Mr Enternational
09-17-17, 06:41
If a chicka hits you up for $ after a couple of days of chit chat on the phone with some story that she is desparate. That should be your queue to move on.To me this is the dumbest shit ever and the ultimate red flag. You mean out of all the family and friends that this person has come into contact throughout their life, how do they gather the wherewithal to ask a complete stranger for money. I would feel like a total jakass if I just asked Fubar for some money, not knowing him from Adam, when I know thousands of other people personally that I could ask. But like they say, your first time doing anything is the hardest. Once they have gotten up the balls to ask the first couple of people, it just starts to roll off the tongue naturally.

JjBee62
09-17-17, 15:41
Disclaimers 1ST: I am a noob to this site, and am still in process of doing my homework here; however, not new to mongering. Therefore, please take my 2 cents and combine it with your specific knowledge about MDE area. Being a noob, I have two options. A) keep my mouth shut and learn from the senior members, or B) contribute, knowing senior members will chime in and correct me.

I decided to contribute.

I have utilized SA many times with mixed results. When screening for a SB on SA, the thing to keep in mind is that SA is no longer a new site. Word has gotten out, and all kinds of chickas flock there. Some of them are new and testing the waters. Some of them are genuinely looking for a SD. And, as you might expect, many are on the site to make a quick buck. Example: I found a couple of chicka profiles on SA that were obviously also on P411. LOL..Seeking Arrangements is, for most people, especially those visiting Colombia, a waste of time and money.

Like every adult oriented match website, many of the profiles are fake, generated by the website to increase traffic. Many others are from people looking for guys to scam. Add in those looking for a Western Union novio, the prostitutes who know they can charge double or triple and a few desperate aging women, hoping for a ticket out of poverty and over half the profiles are a waste of time. What remains are mostly unrealistic expectations.

To contact anyone on the site it costs a minimum of $80 for a 1 month subscription, or the price for an over-priced 10 in Medellin plus taxi both ways. Or the price of 4 sessions in a Centro casa, plus 3 meals.

If you're looking to pay a woman a minimum of $400 per month, plus the money spent each time you see her, plus gifts, plus money for the inevitable and frequent emergencies, SA is the place to be.

If you're looking for sex in Medellin, SA is like paying an escort agency for a session, for the privilege of trying to set up a session.

Other options:

If you're a normal person the opportunities are unbelievable. From streetwalkers who cost less than a large size combo meal in the US to the high end strip clubs where you might spend $200 if you're partying hard. 95% of the p4 p opportunities are cheaper than 1 month on SA.

I suppose there are a few guys who are so incredibly handsome and smooth that the women on SA, who all signed up specifically to get compensated for dates, will fuck them for free. So $80 per month to SA makes more sense than the price of 10 trips to discos.

StripperMan
09-18-17, 21:40
I have never used SA, and do not plan to. There are too many other options.

However, if a good chunk of the profiles on SA are fake & generated by the site to build traffic. Well, that is a low way of doing business that I have no respect for.

JjBee62
09-19-17, 17:12
I don't think this counts as a review, since I didn't get laid, so I'll put it here.

Started my Sunday afternoon watching football at Jenson's with a few other mongers. Talked a while before walking a block over to Lleras with 2 guys. Stopped at the bar next to The Charlee Hotel, which has 3 for 1 drink specials. Sorry, I don't know the name of the place.

Afterwards we went to Envy, which is Charlee Hotel's rooftop bar with swimming pool. If you want to impress a woman, just let her see the drink prices. Pretty close to US prices. Very nice place, with great views. Might be a spot if you're trying to connect with upper class non-pros on a Friday or Saturday night.

Next stop was Gusto. Cover charge is 10 k, I was told. We didn't pay. The bar starts filling up at 10 pm and was still full at closing time (4 am Thursday, Friday and Saturday, 2 am all other days). Music was typical Colombian dance music. Not sure about drink prices. One of the guys ran a tab, and paid for everything. Sunday night there were 10 - 15 working girls. All looked very good, by someone's standards. One was tall with the plastic Barbie body. Gorgeous if that's the look you like. One was blonde, short and curvy, heavier than I like. I can't help with prices. The only one I heard was much lower than anyone would believe. Although she seems to be working for a long-term relationship. If you're into the party scene, Gusto is a good choice.

Last stop was Fahrenheit, an after hours club just half a block from the Ayura metro station. Dress was mostly casual. Music was electronic played too loud. Place was packed until 5:30, and still busy at 6 am. At least some of the girls are p4 p. I'm sure there was a cover, but I can't remember how much. If you're into hard partying all night, this is your place.

Envy -.

Calle 9 a #37-16.

Hours: Sun and Tues 9 am - 10 pm, Mon 12 pm - 10 pm, Wed. Sat 9 am - 2 am.

http://thecharlee.com/envy-roof-top

Gusto -.

Calle 9 a #38-26.

Phone: 300 444 6200.

Hours: Sun. Wed 9 pm - 2 am, Thurs. Sat 9 pm - 4 am.

http://gusto-nightclub.business.site

Fahrenheit -.

Carrera 42 # 79 - 125 ItagI, Medellin.

Phone: 574 354 6203.

Hours: unknown. Until 8 am?

https://www.discotecafahrenheit.co

Wolf662
10-21-17, 17:31
Don't like to be the bearer of bad new but in case anyone else knew her thought I would post.

Yoha was found murdered and stuffed in a suitcase at her house 2 days ago. (the suitcase I bought her to go work in Sint Maartin).

Her GF thinks the jealous ex-BF.

I saw Yoha on all 3 of my trips to MDE this year, she was a very fun & happy beautiful soul and will be sorely missed by all who knew her.

HBoy54
10-22-17, 01:36
One of five homicides on Thursday. Kind of brings it home when someone on here actually knows a victim.

Chris561
10-22-17, 05:16
Don't like to be the bearer of bad new but in case anyone else knew her thought I would post.

Yoha was found murdered and stuffed in a suitcase at her house 2 days ago. (the suitcase I bought her to go work in Sint Maartin).

Her GF thinks the jealous ex-BF.

I saw Yoha on all 3 of my trips to MDE this year, she was a very fun & happy beautiful soul and will be sorely missed by all who knew her.Sorry for your loss brother. May she RIP.

C5.

Wolf662
10-22-17, 17:07
Sorry for your loss brother. May she RIP.

C5.Thanks man, yeah while I usually try to stay off the radar of foreign police, not this time, I looked up the website for the Colombian National Police and emailed them the serial # and model and make of the laptop I bought her to take to Saint Maartin this summer so she could stay in touch with her family via Skype, her GF told me it was missing from her place so hopefully I can be of some help to catch or convict the sub-human who killed her. (it was on closeout on Dell for $230).

May she RIP and her killer burn in Hell.

The Tall Man
10-22-17, 18:58
Don't like to be the bearer of bad new but in case anyone else knew her thought I would post.

Yoha was found murdered and stuffed in a suitcase at her house 2 days ago. (the suitcase I bought her to go work in Sint Maartin).

Her GF thinks the jealous ex-BF.

I saw Yoha on all 3 of my trips to MDE this year, she was a very fun & happy beautiful soul and will be sorely missed by all who knew her.I never knew her but may her soul rest in peace. Yes most likely a jealous ex-BF. Very sad. This gives me pause to reflect how discrete I need to be with some of the girls I have meet and befriended.

TTM.

YippieKayay
10-22-17, 19:35
I never knew her but may her soul rest in peace. Yes most likely a jealous ex-BF. Very sad. This gives me pause to reflect how discrete I need to be with some of the girls I have meet and befriended.

TTM.It really brings to home just how dangerous Colombia can be for Colombians. We worry about our own safety but I can't think of a single person I know who would do me physical harm where I live.

Sorry for your loss Wolf.

Mr Enternational
10-22-17, 22:19
That is fucked up. Condolences for the loss of your friend Wolf.

Combo
10-23-17, 05:42
One of five homicides on Thursday. Kind of brings it home when someone on here actually knows a victim.I had an acquaintance who was killed in Medellíand a few years ago. American of Latino descent who spoke Spanish.

Medellin, while much safer than 20 years ago, is still a dangerous place.

SBeach25
10-23-17, 05:54
I had an acquaintance who was killed in Medelland a few years ago. American of Latino descent who spoke Spanish.

Medellin, while much safer than 20 years ago, is still a dangerous place.Not to take away the from your friend which is very horrific but I've heard of this time and time again. A girl that worked at Chicago club a few years ago was found chopped to pieces in a garbage bag by the river in Tijuana. The murderer was none other than the DJ who was also her novio. Not sure what made him snapped but it sucks. This is just one of the many I've heard. Another was a time I was in Nicaragua while I was talking with a girl in the club, she just told me about her girlfriend in the hospital from an attempted murder by her novio. Be careful and keep it just professional, getting too close could get you caught in a bad place.

Kelso1
10-23-17, 16:57
Not to take away the from your friend which is very horrific but I've heard of this time and time again. A girl that worked at Chicago club a few years ago was found chopped to pieces in a garbage bag by the river in Tijuana. The murderer was none other than the DJ who was also her novio. Not sure what made him snapped but it sucks. This is just one of the many I've heard. Another was a time I was in Nicaragua while I was talking with a girl in the club, she just told me about her girlfriend in the hospital from an attempted murder by her novio. Be careful and keep it just professional, getting too close could get you caught in a bad place.(Be careful and keep it just professional).

That is some of the best advice I have seem concerning working girls. Not only for safety, but also money wise as if you get hooked on a girl then western Union is almost sure to follow.

YippieKayay
10-27-17, 06:11
Some of you might remember my attempt at taking a Medellin casa chica para llevar the last time I went to Cartagena. I managed in refunding the ticket when she put up demands for rent and shit to be paid before she left. My luck in Cartagena was fantastic, 12 million pesos in black jack winnings, a trip to Cholon on my own cruiser fucking away through the week. She nagged the fuck out of me on whatsapp during the trip so I started responding with photos of my wild ride and nothing else.

Fast forward three months later, I'm gearing up for my next trip. Out of nowhere she messages me HOLA COMO ESTAS VAS A VENIR CARTAGENA? Lalalala. Now she's begging. I wouldn't give her a second chance if I didn't love fucking that bubble butt haha. I'm going to regret it but I'm going to try this ONE MORE time. I'm going to have her call me on Saturday and lay out the ground rules.

She totally just wants her photos in Cartagena and to get out of the shit hole she lives in in Medellin.

HBoy54
10-27-17, 09:08
You'd better hope you win at the casino again.

Chris561
10-27-17, 14:41
Some of you might remember my attempt at taking a Medellin casa chica para llevar the last time I went to Cartagena. I managed in refunding the ticket when she put up demands for rent and shit to be paid before she left. My luck in Cartagena was fantastic, 12 million pesos in black jack winnings, a trip to Cholon on my own cruiser fucking away through the week. She nagged the fuck out of me on whatsapp during the trip so I started responding with photos of my wild ride and nothing else.

Fast forward three months later, I'm gearing up for my next trip. Out of nowhere she messages me HOLA COMO ESTAS VAS A VENIR CARTAGENA? Lalalala. Now she's begging. I wouldn't give her a second chance if I didn't love fucking that bubble butt haha. I'm going to regret it but I'm going to try this ONE MORE time. I'm going to have her call me on Saturday and lay out the ground rules.

She totally just wants her photos in Cartagena and to get out of the shit hole she lives in in Medellin.Don't do it my friend. Trouble waiting to happen. Cartagena is a place most Colombia chicks never make it to unless they are privileged. This chick wants you too pay her rent before you take her on a trip to Cartagena? LOL. How does that make any sense?

Just curious, when will you be back in Cartagena?

C5.

YippieKayay
10-28-17, 20:03
Don't do it my friend. Trouble waiting to happen. Cartagena is a place most Colombia chicks never make it to unless they are privileged. This chick wants you too pay her rent before you take her on a trip to Cartagena? LOL. How does that make any sense?
I'll see if she learned her lesson. She left me a really disturbing message this morning. Yesterday she had some dudes photo in her whatsapp status so I joked if her boyfriend wants to come as well. She snapped insisting she was using her sisters phone because her broke and how she was single. I hadn't heard her voice so distressed before. Last time I tried this she told me she has never been on a plane. In any case, I agreed ahead of time how much I'd send for taxi + day at the salon getting her nails done and then got her a ticket on LATAM from Medellin. I feel kinda bad for her. She's probably never left Medellin. Just [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor with a shitty life.

Now if she shows up with a shitty attitude I can always buy her a one way back to Medellin and wash my hands of things.

BTW, how is LATAM? I've never flown it. Always Avianca but they're out of seats for the days I wanted.

Mr Enternational
10-28-17, 20:27
I'll see if she learned her lesson.Looks like she is seeing if you have learned your lesson.

SBeach25
10-28-17, 21:04
Looks like she is seeing if you have learned your lesson.Sounds like you are the one whipped, buying her a ticket back?! Bro, if you are in the land of P_ssy, why are you stress on her. There are many more who are much cooler and why even bother? All the red flags are flapping in the wind. Your just not seeing it. Sorry to be harsh but some one has to tell you like it is. One other note, once she is there, the headache will be even worse. All she has to do is call the police and say you are abusing her and off you go to try and explain the situation from a jail house. Don't get caught in drama in another country.

YippieKayay
10-28-17, 21:25
Sounds like you are the one whipped, buying her a ticket back?! She's a great lay.



Bro, if you are in the land of P_ssy, why are you stress on her.
This is a good point. I'm not stressing though. Yes, there's lots of pussy around but some pussy is just way better than others. She's also very open to me fucking other chicas including her friend in the past.



All she has to do is call the police and say you are abusing her and off you go to try and explain the situation from a jail house. Don't get caught in drama in another country.
I've known her for about a year now. She's not THAT much drama. But yeah. If she hasn't learned and begins to make up stupid demands then this all goes to shit again.

Actually my real concern is explaining why I have a live in chica to my Venezuelan chica in Cartagena. That chica isn't jealous (or hasn't been) but a live in chica might change that, hahaha.

SBeach25
10-28-17, 21:34
She's a great lay.

This is a good point. I'm not stressing though. Yes, there's lots of pussy around but some pussy is just way better than others. She's also very open to me fucking other chicas including her friend in the past.

I've known her for about a year now. She's not THAT much drama. But yeah. If she hasn't learned and begins to make up stupid demands then this all goes to shit again.

Actually my real concern is explaining why I have a live in chica to my Venezuelan chica in Cartagena. That chica isn't jealous (or hasn't been) but a live in chica might change that, hahaha.I admit I've been there before but as soon as a flag goes up, I cut it off. Luckily, I was able to get my money back and still had a good time by myself. Gave me an opportunity to see what was available without bringing sand to the beach.

YippieKayay
10-29-17, 00:44
I admit I've been there before but as soon as a flag goes up, I cut it off. Luckily, I was able to get my money back and still had a good time by myself. Gave me an opportunity to see what was available without bringing sand to the beach.I totally agree. Especially if you're going for the first few times. More often than not it causes problem. But I want to grow a little and try something new. I just spoke with my Venezuelana in Cartagena and she called me loco but said she's game for 3 ways.

In a few weeks time it'll either be a report of a great time or a short post letting everyone know what a nightmare I had, hahaha.

KukulKan1
10-29-17, 02:34
I totally agree. Especially if you're going for the first few times. More often than not it causes problem. But I want to grow a little and try something new. I just spoke with my Venezuelana in Cartagena and she called me loco but said she's game for 3 ways.

In a few weeks time it'll either be a report of a great time or a short post letting everyone know what a nightmare I had, hahaha.Good luck mi friend, hope you have a nice time.

Looking forward to see that report.

The sad thing is that will be one less chick in Medellin for me, planing to arrive Monday afternoon.

Kukulkan.

Chris561
10-29-17, 15:19
She's a great lay.

This is a good point. I'm not stressing though. Yes, there's lots of pussy around but some pussy is just way better than others. She's also very open to me fucking other chicas including her friend in the past.

I've known her for about a year now. She's not THAT much drama. But yeah. If she hasn't learned and begins to make up stupid demands then this all goes to shit again.

Actually my real concern is explaining why I have a live in chica to my Venezuelan chica in Cartagena. That chica isn't jealous (or hasn't been) but a live in chica might change that, hahaha.My friend I'm rooting for you that all goes well. This chick must truly have some really good pussy bro! LOL! I've been there! I was addicted to this one beautiful mega Booty blonde who worked in 4 x4 in Rio. Couldn't get enough of fucking her. I went thru so much shit with that shit it was unbelievable. Just when I called it quits she would come over and fuck my brains out and we called off the break up. Lmao!

Needless to say, that relationship is ancient history now. But the memories will last me forever. Good luck brother.

C5.

Chris561
10-29-17, 15:23
QUOTE=YippieKayay;2099454 I'll see if she learned her lesson. She left me a really disturbing message this morning. Yesterday she had some dudes photo in her whatsapp status so I joked if her boyfriend wants to come as well. She snapped insisting she was using her sisters phone because her broke and how she was single. I hadn't heard her voice so distressed before. Last time I tried this she told me she has never been on a plane. In any case, I agreed ahead of time how much I'd send for taxi + day at the salon getting her nails done and then got her a ticket on LATAM from Medellin. I feel kinda bad for her. She's probably never left Medellin. Just [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor with a shitty life.

Now if she shows up with a shitty attitude I can always buy her a one way back to Medellin and wash my hands of things.

BTW, how is LATAM? I've never flown it. Always Avianca but they're out of seats for the days I wanted.[/QUOTE]I thought Vivo Colombia was cheapest flight to Cartagena from Medellin?

C5.

JjBee62
11-06-17, 14:41
Recently I was sitting and talking with my friends when someone decided to join the group. More accurately, he decided to try and lure one or both of my friends away from me. I suppose he saw 2 young Colombianas sitting with an old gringo and figured they would rather be sitting with him.

He was wrong. However, it was entertaining and I learned a few new words, although I already knew "bobo" and "idiota.

In the US if you see a group and are interested in one of the women, you cut her from the herd, get her more interested in you, than in her friends. In Colombia that doesn't work, except with prepagos. It doesn't even work with prepagos if they are out with friends having fun, instead of out with friends trying to make some money.

Colombianas go out with friends to be with their friends. They are happy to add new friends, but aren't likely to abandon their group. The trick is to figure out who is the center of the group and impress them. Wit and sincerity work well. Name dropping doesn't work. You can be the guy who shaves Ozuna's head and nobody cares, unless you can get him to show up. There's also a risk with name dropping (or other bullshittery). Sometimes, someone else knows him (or in this case, her).

If you see a guy talking with 1 or more girls, talk to the guy. If there's any room or options for you, someone will let you know.

Judd
12-21-17, 23:23
Hola Dudes,

Anyone know, either in Poblado or Envigado, where you can get a passport photo taken? I need to get my 90 day visa extended. Bringing a couple of these photos is one of the requirements.

Thank You,

Judd.

JjBee62
12-22-17, 14:47
Hola Dudes,

Anyone know, either in Poblado or Envigado, where you can get a passport photo taken? I need to get my 90 day visa extended. Bringing a couple of these photos is one of the requirements.

Thank You,

Judd.I took my own photos and did the online submission. I don't know why they require it, because they take your photo and fingerprints at the Migration office.

Alliwantislove
12-22-17, 20:46
This is just an experiment to see if I can spell Bogot and Medelland correctly. I. e. With accented characters - in a recently posted report it seemed that I wasn't able to.

(added via Edit) Bogotá was correct but now in Edit it has been changed to Bogot. Medellin (but with an accented i ends up as Medellín.

JjBee62
12-23-17, 23:26
This week a few Davivienda ATMs at bank's have had a max of 2 million cop per transaction. Normal max is 720 k.

Judd
12-28-17, 22:55
Today, after I hit a casa in Centro, I found a place that can take a passport style photo. The location is on the corner of Maracaibo and Oriental. It's on the side of the street heading towards New Life. It will be the first business you see on the left side of the street once you cross Oriental. Cost was 6. 9 mil or $2. 25 USD. BTW, lineup at Sexy Amigas 2 was very weak.

Late,

Judd.

Dickhead
12-29-17, 02:56
Good info on the passport photos. As general info, if in a large city and needing passport photos, in a pinch go to an embassy. A lot of them will have photo places right nearby. Paraguayan embassy in Buenos Aires conveniently has one in the same block. Conveniently, this place appears to be owned by one or more relatives of one or more of the chicas who work in said embassy. Conveniently, the women who work in the paraguayan embassy are all so good looking that by the time I got done with that place, my dick was so fucking hard that I did not have enough skin left to blink my eyes.

ShawMan74
01-02-18, 08:23
Hey guys, I have a question for anyone who has stayed in both Argentina AND Colombia for extended periods of time.

How does Medellin compare with Buenos Aires in a general sense?

I'm talking about everyday living. I understand that's different for everybody, but I just wanted an idea of how the two compare. I'm sure that someone else has spoken of it, but times have changed over the last few years, so I thought I'd ask anew. I like to stay in apartments because I don't like being controlled on my comings and goings. But I always stay in the historic center of a city so I can walk everywhere, and those are usually safer. In BAs I stayed in a fully-furnished short term apartment in San Telmo, which was perfect (except for the dogsh*t everywhere hehelol). I was wrapped in history, bohemian intellectualism, everything was walking distance, especially really REALLY good restaurants, for a tenth of what I'd pay in America for the same. As far as the weather goes, I'm looking to escape the triple-digit summer heat of where I come from and figured this would be a really nice way to do it. S America stays nice and cool so I'm going to be there for about 6 weeks, and in that sense, I am on a budget.

The only thing about BAs is that the mongering scene is also dogsh*t (read that forum, trust me). From what I gather, Medellin does not have that problem.

But what of the rest of it? What are the practicalities of living there compared to living in BAs? Is "walking" also synonymous with "hopscotch"? A warm thanks in advance for the help!

HarvestBoi
01-02-18, 18:20
I think you know the answer but IMO Medellin has the advantage only in chicas and weather (eternally spring) and perhaps ease of movement because it is a much smaller city. In terms of culture, food and non-mongering nightlife there's no comparison. Medellin is really provincial in many ways while BsAs is a world capital on par with Paris or New York.

Judd
01-02-18, 22:34
Hola Dudes,

I went down to the immigration office this morning to get an extension on my Tourist VISA since my 90 days were up in a couple of days. At a cost of only 92 mil, its a much cheaper and less hassle option than to book a flight out of the Country and re-enter.

Colombia allows you to file a 90 day extension as long as the following do not apply. You do not stay more than six months consecutively. You cannot stay more than six months in one calendar year.

An article in Medellin Living broke down the items you needed in order to get the extension processed. Things have slightly changed. You no longer need to fill out any paperwork at the immigration office, nor do you need to bring any passport photos. They will take your photo + prints at the office. What's now required is to fill out an application on their website, upload a copy of your passport info section, and print a verification page showing the app was registered. You will not be able to see an Immigration Officer unless you have this printout which states your application was, "Registered Successfully Completed.

Bring this page along with your passport, copy of your passport photo / info page + copy of entrance stamp. Again, the cost is 92 mil. Keep in mind, they do not take cash, only credit cards. Cash payments are taken by a specific bank. The Medellin Living article has this info. Another option if you only have cash is to have another customer whose waiting pay with their credit card, and you pay them with pesos.

On the application, they will ask for a person to contact in case of an emergency. I used a friend in the States, but couldn't put in his real address since it's coded for a Colombian address. I used the address for the apartment I'm renting here in MDE and was not asked to verify. The Agent asked for a local phone # in addition to my US cell #. I gave him the guys number whose renting the apartment to me, and he said that was fine.

Total time it took to complete this process was about two hours. However, if I would've filled out the app prior to arriving, it would've saved me about an hour. Since I didn't register online, I had to go to an Internet cafe around the corner, and get that completed. Here's the link to the online app. http://www.migracioncolombia.gov.co/index.php/es/ Navigating on this site is a bit confusing. Find the menu icon and click "Tramites", then, "Cedula de Extranjeria". Click it and you should be taken to the online app.

Oficina de Migracion Colombia.

Address: Calle 19 #80 A-40, Barrio Belen, Medellin.

Try to get there when it opens at 8 in the AM before it gets busy.

Late,

Judd.

ShawMan74
01-03-18, 05:08
I think you know the answer but IMO Medellin has the advantage only in chicas and weather (eternally spring) and perhaps ease of movement because it is a much smaller city. In terms of culture, food and non-mongering nightlife there's no comparison. Medellin is really provincial in many ways while BsAs is a world capital on par with Paris or New York.I actually don't know the answer at all, but you def gave me some very good key info. Again, thank you. So medellin has my favorite season as year round weather. WOW!! Chicas are top notch. Even better. I'm just trying to figure out if this is a place I can park my butt for about 3 weeks or so. I need the opinions of others as much as I need the facts HAHA!

JjBee62
01-03-18, 15:19
Hey guys, I have a question for anyone who has stayed in both Argentina AND Colombia for extended periods of time.

How does Medellin compare with Buenos Aires in a general sense?

I'm talking about everyday living. I understand that's different for everybody, but I just wanted an idea of how the two compare. I'm sure that someone else has spoken of it, but times have changed over the last few years, so I thought I'd ask anew.I've never been to BsAs, but I'll give what I know of Medellin.

The historic and traditional center is El Centro, which is not a generally safe area. I know several people who always stay there with no problems. I also know several people who are terrified of the area.

If you're going to have a lot of down time, you might run out of things to do in 3 weeks. I've heard many complaints that there's nothing to do here. I've also heard plenty of "I don't want to do that" when I offer suggestions. If you're the type who really wants to find something to do, you will find plenty. If you're the guy who just wants something to complain about, you'll find plenty of reasons to complain.

Food is cheap. You can find a complete meal for about $2 including drink, typically fruit juice. The public transportation is very good and taxis are cheap. Walking is my preferred transportation and I average about 5 miles per day. In some areas you need to watch your step, not only for doggy treats, but because sidewalks are terrible. People are friendly.

The mongering scene has been slow the last 10 days, but there were still options available. It is already picking up quickly. If you're coming in summer you'll have more options than you'll ever have time for.

ShawMan74
01-04-18, 01:46
I've never been to BsAs, but I'll give what I know of Medellin.

The historic and traditional center is El Centro, which is not a generally safe area. I know several people who always stay there with no problems. I also know several people who are terrified of the area.

If you're going to have a lot of down time, you might run out of things to do in 3 weeks. I've heard many complaints that there's nothing to do here. I've also heard plenty of "I don't want to do that" when I offer suggestions. If you're the type who really wants to find something to do, you will find plenty. If you're the guy who just wants something to complain about, you'll find plenty of reasons to complain.

Food is cheap. You can find a complete meal for about $2 including drink, typically fruit juice. The public transportation is very good and taxis are cheap. Walking is my preferred transportation and I average about 5 miles per day. In some areas you need to watch your step, not only for doggy treats, but because sidewalks are terrible. People are friendly.

The mongering scene has been slow the last 10 days, but there were still options available. It is already picking up quickly. If you're coming in summer you'll have more options than you'll ever have time for.Thank you so much for your info / help! From everything you're describing, this sounds financially feasible. Medellin for 3 weeks. Followed by Cali for another 3 weeks, and then Ecuador (non-mongering) for about 2 weeks is looking very strong on paper. I'm not much for "anesthetized experiences. " do you have any recommendations as far as outdoorsey stuff goes? Thanks to everyone here once more. You guys are the best.

Villainy
01-04-18, 04:46
Thank you so much for your info / help! From everything you're describing, this sounds financially feasible. Medellin for 3 weeks. Followed by Cali for another 3 weeks, and then Ecuador (non-mongering) for about 2 weeks is looking very strong on paper. I'm not much for "anesthetized experiences. " do you have any recommendations as far as outdoorsey stuff goes? Thanks to everyone here once more. You guys are the best.One thing you might consider is "Real City Tours Medellin". The walking tour is conducted in English and is free (although they would greatly appreciate tips at the end, if you enjoyed it). The tour is 3-4 hours long during the day in El Centro. You'll learn a lot about the history of Medellin. How some of the parques came into being. My trip was with about 25 people and only 1 other American (the rest were European). It was fabulous. Botero plaza, Parque de Las Luces, Parque Bolivar. They have other tours also which I will try on another occasion. There is also a coffee tour but it's expensive and an all day affair. I hear it is superb (especially if you're a coffee aficionado). Take the Metro-Cable to some of the barrios, or the Escalator to the top of Communa 13. As Jjbee said "if you're a doer" you're not going to have a single boring day.

HarvestBoi
01-04-18, 06:00
If chica quality and cost are the top two criteria, then Medellin is your place. Not as cosmopolitan as BsAs but to a foreigner, plenty exotic enough.


Thank you so much for your info / help! From everything you're describing, this sounds financially feasible. Medellin for 3 weeks. Followed by Cali for another 3 weeks, and then Ecuador (non-mongering) for about 2 weeks is looking very strong on paper. I'm not much for "anesthetized experiences. " do you have any recommendations as far as outdoorsey stuff goes? Thanks to everyone here once more. You guys are the best..

Mascarado
01-10-18, 04:54
Here's something to do.

ShawMan74
01-20-18, 02:15
I want to ask if someone would please link me to a report that has an area map where most of the scene can be found? I tried searching and I can't find anything. Also, I'm still confused, I'm reading the reports but I can't make heads or tails of the scene. This isn't my first rodeo, I've been to Thailand, Moscow, Rio, I've seen quite a bit, I just can't figure out (from what I've read) how it really works over there. THANK YOU GUYS SO SO MUCH!

PaisaPorFavor
01-20-18, 03:21
If you are a paid member you should be able to get access to the Medellin Google map.


I want to ask if someone would please link me to a report that has an area map where most of the scene can be found? I tried searching and I can't find anything. Also, I'm still confused, I'm reading the reports but I can't make heads or tails of the scene. This isn't my first rodeo, I've been to Thailand, Moscow, Rio, I've seen quite a bit, I just can't figure out (from what I've read) how it really works over there. THANK YOU GUYS SO SO MUCH!

ShawMan74
01-20-18, 09:12
If you are a paid member you should be able to get access to the Medellin Google map.I absolutely AM a paid member, both on this board and on Argentina's separate board. Where can I find the map? (or am I just blind?

Wolf662
01-20-18, 18:52
I absolutely AM a paid member, both on this board and on Argentina's separate board. Where can I find the map? (or am I just blind?I made a map for downtown use where most the action is, PM me a email address and I will send you one, the one I post here gets reduced in size a bit and gets blurry.

World Travel 69
01-21-18, 16:17
Sorry I deleted the post.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists

Wolf662
01-21-18, 16:56
Also, I'm still confused, I'm reading the reports but I can't make heads or tails of the scene. This isn't my first rodeo, I've been to Thailand, Moscow, Rio, I've seen quite a bit, I just can't figure out (from what I've read) how it really works over there. !There is a 1/2 HR video on the MED adult scene on this page: (has about a min and half musical intro with hot Colombianas) The prices on the vid are a little high because the peso has dropped since then:

https://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/

Traveller
02-02-18, 12:07
I'm just going to drop this here.

Richmond72
02-03-18, 07:46
I want to ask if someone would please link me to a report that has an area map where most of the scene can be found? I tried searching and I can't find anything. Also, I'm still confused, I'm reading the reports but I can't make heads or tails of the scene. This isn't my first rodeo, I've been to Thailand, Moscow, Rio, I've seen quite a bit, I just can't figure out (from what I've read) how it really works over there. THANK YOU GUYS SO SO MUCH!There are 3 main P4 P scenes in Medellin.

1.) casas. Like Thai massage parlors.

2.) strip clubs where you can take the girls next door for short time.

3.) Facebook freelancers.

Personally I only go to Medellin for the Facebook girls. Someone else can give a better lowdown on the casas and strip clubs. Because prostitution is legal (only pimping is against the law), Medellin has a huge freelance scene. The only place I can think of that has a larger freelance scene is probably Pattaya, but it's way easier to find hot freelancers and arrange appointments with them on Facebook than on Thaifriendly or Badoo. It also doesn't hurt that Medellin is famous for having beautiful women.

BTW, the post before mine is advertising a Super Bowl party being put together by Jonesie who runs a different forum. He throws together parties like that sometimes and invites freelancers to come. The fee that the guys pay helps cover taxi costs for the girls and then the guys and girls arrange their own appointments themselves. I've never been to one of his parties, but it's a great example of how the freelance scene works in Medellin. Nobody's pimping the girls and the girls won't go with you if they don't like you, but everything's so convenient that it's super easy to arrange meetings with beautiful girls with much less hassle than anywhere else in the world.

SandStorm20
02-03-18, 09:13
3.) Facebook freelancers.

Personally I only go to Medellin for the Facebook girls. Someone else can give a better lowdown on the casas and strip clubs. Because prostitution is legal (only pimping is against the law), Medellin has a huge freelance scene. The only place I can think of that has a larger freelance scene is probably Pattaya, but it's way easier to find hot freelancers and arrange appointments with them on Facebook than on Thaifriendly or Badoo. It also doesn't hurt that Medellin is famous for having beautiful women.So how do I get in touch with facebook freelancers in Medellin?

Arcangel
02-03-18, 14:57
If chica quality and cost are the top two criteria, then Medellin is your place. Not as cosmopolitan as BsAs but to a foreigner, plenty exotic enough.
.I agree. And if you are into outdoors activities (non-sexual I mean) then Medellin wins over Buenos Aires, too. Medellin sits in the middle of a beautiful mountain range which goes up to volcano peaks above the snowline (LOS Nevados near Manizales) and down to tropical humid heat (Magdalena and Cauca river valleys). You can go hiking, mountain-biking, road cycling, quad-biking, horse-riding, paragliding, canoeing, canyoning and more. For a start I recommend seeing the pine forests of Parque Arví just on the edge of the city.

Dickhead
02-03-18, 15:07
I agree. And if you are into outdoors activities (non-sexual I mean) then Medellin wins over Buenos Aires, too. I agree if considering the area as a whole but disagree if considering the cities themselves. BsAs is much more walkable and bikeable and has more public tennis courts. I would also give BsAs the edge for city parks, although MDE has some nice ones too.

Lefeu
02-03-18, 16:13
I agree if considering the area as a whole but disagree if considering the cities themselves. BsAs is much more walkable and bikeable and has more public tennis courts. I would also give BsAs the edge for city parks, although MDE has some nice ones too.How about the fine dining places, and the various umpromptu tango shows in downtown. IMO, Medellin cannot compete with BA on the fun scene.

Mongering, however is a different story, except if you enjoy girls from Colombia, DR, and Paraguay, when you are in BA and wish to monger.

Dickhead
02-03-18, 16:51
How about the fine dining places, and the various umpromptu tango shows in downtown. IMO, Medellin cannot compete with BA on the fun scene.

Mongering, however is a different story, except if you enjoy girls from Colombia, DR, and Paraguay, when you are in BA and wish to monger.While I think the food in BA is overrated, it is certainly better than colombian food, which is well below average on a world-wide basis, in my opinion. It's true that the tango shows are a plus, and BA also has stand-up comics and other types of buskers. Medellín might have some of that, somewhere, sometimes, but I never saw any when I was living there. That's been quite a while ago, and I spent an austral winter in BA just a couple of years ago.

BA is major, world-class city with a European flavor. Medellín is a fairly large Latin American city with pleasant weather and a ton of hookers. Mid-summer in Buenos Aires is pretty unbearable to be out and about in, and air conditioning is an absolute must, (again IMO; obviously almost everything I write is my opinion). One of Medellín's primary advantages for North Americans is that it is much closer. Flights to BA from North America are a major drag.

When I lived in BA, there were zero colombianas. I never met a single one. There were some from the DR, increasingly as time went on, a development that I personally did not view favorably. And paraguayan pussy is the very best in the world, hands down. It isn't even close. And since Paraguay itself really sucks, that makes BA the better place for pussy, especially if you don't like silicone. Now if the latitudes and elevation of the two cities could be reversed, that would be ideal. I don't see that happening any time soon.

Arcangel
02-04-18, 18:14
While I think the food in BA is overrated, it is certainly better than colombian food, which is well below average on a world-wide basis, in my opinion.
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Now if the latitudes and elevation of the two cities could be reversed, that would be ideal. I don't see that happening any time soon.Haha, I agree with everything. I never had local food that I found exciting anywhere south of Mexico. But I have got used to Colombian food and can live well on it. I also enjoy the Lebanese shawarma restaurants that you can find in most Colombian cities.

The problem with putting BsAs at the latitude of Medellin is that it would then be too far from Paraguay, hehe.

YippieKayay
02-15-18, 10:14
After two solid years of mongering too frequently in Colombia I've come to the following conclusion:

(1) Prepagos lie all the time. I feel like talking to them is mostly worthless. I've had a few open up to me and tell me how they first got started. One story in particular really sticks in my mind. Then I remember they lie lie lie, and then lie some more. It's like downloading useless "alternative facts. ". One time this chica tells me for weeks that's she is preparing to go to Peru with her "cousins" and of course when she gets there its all photos of her and some cuckold boyfriend. Why lie? There's no conceivable reason to lie like this other than to just lie.

(2) They are not single ever. There's always an ex-husband, boyfriend, ex-boyfriend, fuck-friend, handler, or some other dude who pops up into their life around Christmas and Semana Santa. I literally had a prepago message me ask me when I'll next be in town with her boyfriend and her in her WhatsApp profile pic. I've only met two of these dudes in the past, casually, and they are always such big time losers who mooch off the prepago. It's almost like role reversal where she wears the trousers and takes care of him. I don't know why but this always makes me feel a little sick in my stomach to watch.

(3) They are self centered to an extreme. This explains why everytime some stupid Paisa bimbo gets some halfwit to fly her out to the Bahamas or some shit she'll only have photos of herself on vacation and he'll never appear in any of them. They don't give a fuck. It's all about them. Their needs. Gifts they want. Surgery they want. It's all about them.

And it doesn't matter if they're "semi-pro" or "new" or "fresh" or whatever the fuck.

OK story time. One night as we're watching TV in bed this one prepago opens up about her first time hooking. She tells me she was in college and her instructor (a female instructor) mentions that a man is looking for a companion just like her and would pay well to spend time with her. I think she was nineteen or twenty when this happened. She's in her early thirties now. She tells me that's the first time she slept with someone for money. After that she says, her eyes unfocused and lost in some memory, it's all became so easy.

I just said: "Dale, chuparme" and got her to blow me.

I'm in Colombia next week. This same prepago asked me to bring a iphone because hers isn't working properly. I laughed in her face.

Dickhead
02-15-18, 11:31
Basically, 'chúpame' could be the correct response to anything a hooker says. 'I want a new I-phone.' 'Chúpame.' 'Let's go out to dinner.' 'Chúpame.' 'I need taxi money.' 'Chúpame.' 'I think it might rain.' 'Chúpame.'

I really don't see how you can go wrong with this approach.

The Tall Man
02-15-18, 17:47
After two solid years of mongering too frequently in Colombia I've come to the following conclusion:

(1) Prepagos lie all the time. I feel like talking to them is mostly worthless. I've had a few open up to me and tell me how they first got started. One story in particular really sticks in my mind. Then I remember they lie lie lie, and then lie some more. It's like downloading useless "alternative facts. ". One time this chica tells me for weeks that's she is preparing to go to Peru with her "cousins" and of course when she gets there its all photos of her and some cuckold boyfriend. Why lie? There's no conceivable reason to lie like this other than to just lie.

(2) They are not single ever. There's always an ex-husband, boyfriend, ex-boyfriend, fuck-friend, handler, or some other dude who pops up into their life around Christmas and Semana Santa. I literally had a prepago message me ask me when I'll next be in town with her boyfriend and her in her WhatsApp profile pic. I've only met two of these dudes in the past, casually, and they are always such big time losers who mooch off the prepago. It's almost like role reversal where she wears the trousers and takes care of him. I don't know why but this always makes me feel a little sick in my stomach to watch.

(3) They are self centered to an extreme. This explains why everytime some stupid Paisa bimbo gets some halfwit to fly her out to the Bahamas or some shit she'll only have photos of herself on vacation and he'll never appear in any of them. They don't give a fuck. It's all about them. Their needs. Gifts they want. Surgery they want. It's all about them.

And it doesn't matter if they're "semi-pro" or "new" or "fresh" or whatever the fuck.

OK story time. One night as we're watching TV in bed this one prepago opens up about her first time hooking. She tells me she was in college and her instructor (a female instructor) mentions that a man is looking for a companion just like her and would pay well to spend time with her. I think she was nineteen or twenty when this happened. She's in her early thirties now. She tells me that's the first time she slept with someone for money. After that she says, her eyes unfocused and lost in some memory, it's all became so easy.

I just said: "Dale, chuparme" and got her to blow me.

I'm in Colombia next week. This same prepago asked me to bring a iphone because hers isn't working properly. I laughed in her face.I could not spell it out any better myself, me too me 8 years visiting medellin have heard every story and manipulation by both prepagos and the more normal paisa chicas, if you could use the term normal. Oh and I will be back in paisa pussy land next month. I get stories almost daily on whatsapp from many of my contacts.

I need to better understand the word chuparme.

TTM.

The Tall Man
02-15-18, 17:53
Basically, 'chpame' could be the correct response to anything a hooker says. 'I want a new I-phone.' 'Chpame.' 'Let's go out to dinner.' 'Chpame.' 'I need taxi money.' 'Chpame.' 'I think it might rain.' 'Chpame.'

I really don't see how you can go wrong with this approach.So when a paisa chica sends me a message that she needs something I simply reply "chuparame"?

I am already practicing the phrase chuparame la polla, jejejeje.

TTM.

Dickhead
02-15-18, 18:09
So when a paisa chica sends me a message that she needs something I simply reply "chuparame"?

I am already practicing the phrase chuparame la polla, jejejeje.

TTM.It is 'chúpame,' not 'chuparme. ' The former is the imperative or command form. 'Chuparme' would be the infinitive. You could say, 'Tienes que chuparme' but I think using the imperative is the way to go. Shows who's the boss and takes less time to say.

JjBee62
02-15-18, 20:35
It is 'chpame,' not 'chuparme. ' The former is the imperative or command form. 'Chuparme' would be the infinitive. You could say, 'Tienes que chuparme' but I think using the imperative is the way to go. Shows who's the boss and takes less time to say.Or you can try "callate y chupame. ".

I'm just curious why everyone is getting into these discussions with their prepagos. Why pay $30 - $50 to listen to someone else's problems? If her mom needs 500 k tell her as soon as she's finished with you she can go find 2 more guys. Why care if she has a boyfriend or husband? Unless she's lying about having a vagina, who cares?

Hell, lots of the mongers I meet tell lies. I don't call them out. I just enjoy the story and carry on.

YippieKayay
02-15-18, 22:24
Or you can try "callate y chupame. ".

Why care if she has a boyfriend or husband? Unless she's lying about having a vagina, who cares?
That happened once. I noticed when I took off the condom she quickly grabbed it and ran off and tossed it in a bin. She explained she's very orderly. I was like no. There was blood on that condom. She was fucking while on the rag.

Dickhead
02-15-18, 23:07
Or you can try "cállate y chúpame."

I like that even better! Or how about 'cállate, arrodíllate y chúpame'? If you get bored with that, or want a slightly different angle, or if the floor is really dirty, substitute 'agáchate' for 'arrodíllate.'

If none of that works, say 'La puerta está allá. Lárgate!'

YippieKayay
02-17-18, 17:41
That chica who openly has a photo of her boyfriend in her whatsapp profile messages me out of the blue. She needs to tell me something she says. Then I get one of those biiiiiiig long messages describing her pitful economic state and how she needs help. I've been through this before and have my standard non-committal answer ready. Then she drops a bomb shell. She's 21 weeks pregnant. I immediately go to my calendar and start counting the weeks back to the time I barebacked her like a sweaty pig all night (creampie after creampie). Oh shit. It falls in or around that time. I ask her point blank if its mine. She says 'no lo creo' or she doesn't believe it is. Turns out other than her boyfriend I'm the only guy with that privilege (yeah right). She's pretty sure its the boyfriend because she took the morning after pill with me.

The conversation then goes on and on about other stuff. She told me she doesn't look pregnant but at 21 weeks I doubt that. I told her we could meet up when I'm in town and maybe we can work something out. I see even the start of a baby bump and I'm exiting stage left. Otherwise, we're doing a full dress rehearsal of the last night I was with her.

These chicas are fucking bizarre. I think it's like a mini matriarchal society with these hookers. They have their boyfriend and then other men they recruit into their circle. Sadly, she's such a sweet hottie. If she wasn't a hooker I'd easily make her a girlfriend. But putas be putas.

The Tall Man
02-17-18, 22:29
That chica who openly has a photo of her boyfriend in her whatsapp profile messages me out of the blue. She needs to tell me something she says. Then I get one of those biiiiiiig long messages describing her pitful economic state and how she needs help. I've been through this before and have my standard non-committal answer ready. Then she drops a bomb shell. She's 21 weeks pregnant. I immediately go to my calendar and start counting the weeks back to the time I barebacked her like a sweaty pig all night (creampie after creampie). Oh shit. It falls in or around that time. I ask her point blank if its mine. She says 'no lo creo' or she doesn't believe it is. Turns out other than her boyfriend I'm the only guy with that privilege (yeah right). She's pretty sure its the boyfriend because she took the morning after pill with me.

The conversation then goes on and on about other stuff. She told me she doesn't look pregnant but at 21 weeks I doubt that. I told her we could meet up when I'm in town and maybe we can work something out. I see even the start of a baby bump and I'm exiting stage left. Otherwise, we're doing a full dress rehearsal of the last night I was with her.

These chicas are fucking bizarre. I think it's like a mini matriarchal society with these hookers. They have their boyfriend and then other men they recruit into their circle. Sadly, she's such a sweet hottie. If she wasn't a hooker I'd easily make her a girlfriend. But putas be putas.Been there and done that. Good luck to you, tread carefully. I know if they were not so much damn fun and cute I would be long long.

TTM.

Wolf662
03-01-18, 03:58
1st weekend of the month is the craft fare at Parque Bolivar. Lots of cool handmade stuff for sale.

Knowledge
03-03-18, 18:57
It's a nice event, absolutely worth a visit and a refreshing change from the normal collection of addicts, transvestites, and assorted ne'er do wells. You can combine it with a meal at Hacienda, or a visit to chicas puntocom LOL!


1st weekend of the month is the craft fare at Parque Bolivar. Lots of cool handmade stuff for sale.

El Mechanico
03-15-18, 15:25
everytime some stupid Paisa bimbo gets some halfwit to fly her out to the Bahamas or some shit she'll only have photos of herself on vacation and he'll never appear in any of them. I have seen this phenomena several times, most recently from a chica from CR & another Paisa who is currently on a world wind tour of Europe (5 or 6 countries in the last 2 weeks or so. My thoughts are they don't want the other gringo fb friends unfriending them because they have a bunch of pics with their current sponsor. They seem to want to put up a facade of traveling alone so as not to miss out on a future opportunity. Anyway, I guess to some extent we all do that. Whatever, just rent, don't buy because someone else will eventually outbid you.

El Mechanico.

The Tall Man
03-16-18, 19:33
I have seen this phenomena several times, most recently from a chica from CR & another Paisa who is currently on a world wind tour of Europe (5 or 6 countries in the last 2 weeks or so. My thoughts are they don't want the other gringo fb friends unfriending them because they have a bunch of pics with their current sponsor. They seem to want to put up a facade of traveling alone so as not to miss out on a future opportunity. Anyway, I guess to some extent we all do that. Whatever, just rent, don't buy because someone else will eventually outbid you.

El Mechanico.Ditto that as I am one guilty of it, not often but when I do I show nothing of us together anywhere yet she shows great solo photos of her on the beach or in a boast, funny but guess who is taking those photos of her, jajajaja.

TTM.

Dickhead
03-17-18, 01:33
Regarding the discussion about learning languages that is taking place in the Med forum, Knowledge posted:

'Starting younger makes it easier. Of course, we no longer have that option. My advice to make maximum progress in the shortest amount of time is to focus on the spoken language and leave reading and writing for last. Another helpful tactic is watch lots of television and film, preferably without subtitles. Even with subtitles TV and film are helpful because you learn vocabulary as you see people acting out and reacting to the spoken dialogue. It also helps improve pronunciation and comprehension. It takes a bit of discipline because the path of least resistance is to go back to what's familiar, but that only interferes with learning.

The written language, reading and writing, is not as useful for our purposes as the spoken language. In fact, unless you need it for work, you will find not being able to read or write to be only a minor inconvenience. In less developed countries, large segments of the population are illiterate. '.

I agree that speaking is the most important. I agree that TV and film are useful tools. I would add that watching soap operas, while painful at times, is good because the plots are so obvious, even if you miss the meaning of a few sentences, you don't get lost overall and later you figure out what they must have said. Listening to Spanish language radio in your car helps too. Those fuckers talk really fast so just let it wash over you for the most part, but it will sink in at some level and be helpful.

Dccpa writes:

'in your opinion is the hardest Romance language? I have limited exposure to most of them, but for me, Romanian is by far the most complex. Also, any suggestions for the best course for learning Spanish?

I only have exposure to Spanish, Italian, French, and Portuguese. I feel those are in order of ease. Spanish is easier than Italian by just a bit because Italian does not have the accent mark rules to indicate the syllable that should be stressed. It also has both grave and aigu accents, while Spanish does not. Then in French you have more silent letters, plus both types of accent marks, plus cedillas and circonflexes. Portuguese has all the pronunciation symbols that French has, plus the tilde, and silent letters.

I learned Spanish the hard way, but learned Italian using Pimsleur tapes, which I recommend.

Mongerer88
03-17-18, 03:31
Okay Dickhead, I will bite on this discussion. Here are two links I posted in the Valencia, Spain section.

https://hbr.org/2013/11/countries-with-better-english-have-better-economies

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/jul/6/20060706-085927-3579r/

I was very hopeful that the desosvalencia operation, which posted a notification on ISG of its grand opening, would make an effort to service non-Spanish speakers like their sister operation desosbarcelona does. All a person has to do to make an appointment with desosbarcelona is to compose a message in English on one side of Google Translate, translate it to Spanish (or Catalan if you think you might be dealing with a rebel), copy and paste it into whatsapp, and send it. Sometimes the message comes back in Spanish, and you reverse the process, sometimes it comes back as a whatsapp voice message in English from a sexy sounding lady. But at the Valencia location, so far, they don't have whatsapp, they ignore translated SMS messages, and they politely say they don't speak English when someone calls.

Most all Madrid brothels and independents either speak English or use the above-described translation system either via Whatsapp or email. But there is one specialty place I wanted to go in Madrid where they just have a landline and they speak no English. They post their exact address and door code on the Spalumi message board and invite walk-ins, and when I called I could tell the madam really wanted me to come over, but her spoken English was as bad as my spoken Spanish. So I just went someplace easier.

So I am less likely to go to Valencia in comparison to Barcelona, and I am less likely to go to that particular "non-English friendly" Madrid place in comparison to other Madrid places.

I have been to two countries in South America and I had a much more difficult time getting around in comparison to Europe, including when it comes to mongering. If it hadn't been for Laura's wonderful translation service for john's in Buenos Aires, I would have been completely lost. So I am relatively more likely to go to Europe than to South America. I was supposed to stay at the Mansion once, but I had to cancel the trip due to a flight schedule change. But if I go to Medellin, I would definitely stay at the Mansion due to my lack of Spanish.

So here is my question as it relates to the links I posted. Given the relative proprtion of overall worldwide income and wealth amongst English speaking men, wouldn't it make more sense for South American providers to greatly step-up their game with technology to translate to and from English, and step-up their game with respect to speaking English in general?

It is automatic in the hospitality industry that English will be spoken, because the hospitality industry knows that their ideal customer base speaks English. If you were a hot, young female sex worker, wouldn't it make the most sense to work on English skills, and technological abilities to attract the customers with the most wealth. The English speakers?

I can't figure out why South America is so far behind Europe in English, given the proximity of South America to the United States and the importance of the trade relationship. Wouldn't an emphasis on English raise incomes throughout South America, including those of sex workers? Why the lack of English in South America?

Richmond72
03-17-18, 10:04
I have seen this phenomena several times, most recently from a chica from CR & another Paisa who is currently on a world wind tour of Europe (5 or 6 countries in the last 2 weeks or so. My thoughts are they don't want the other gringo fb friends unfriending them because they have a bunch of pics with their current sponsor. They seem to want to put up a facade of traveling alone so as not to miss out on a future opportunity. Anyway, I guess to some extent we all do that. Whatever, just rent, don't buy because someone else will eventually outbid you.

El Mechanico.I don't get it. Do you guys WANT to be plastered all over a work girl's timeline? Not me. I'd rather stay under the radar. Why bring attention to yourself like that?

And if I see pics of any of the girls on my Medellin FB outside of Colombia, it's almost certain they're with a client.

The girls I find weird are the ones who post pics of their Colombian BF all over their timeline with lovey dovey messages to each other. I like to avoid drama and prefer the more discreet ones who keep their private and working lives separate.

JjBee62
03-18-18, 14:12
Regarding the discussion about learning languages that is taking place in the Med forum, Knowledge posted:

'Starting younger makes it easier. Of course, we no longer have that option. My advice to make maximum progress in the shortest amount of time is to focus on the spoken language and leave reading and writing for last. Another helpful tactic is watch lots of television and film, preferably without subtitles. Even with subtitles TV and film are helpful because you learn vocabulary as you see people acting out and reacting to the spoken dialogue. It also helps improve pronunciation and comprehension. It takes a bit of discipline because the path of least resistance is to go back to what's familiar, but that only interferes with learning.

The written language, reading and writing, is not as useful for our purposes as the spoken language. In fact, unless you need it for work, you will find not being able to read or write to be only a minor inconvenience. In less developed countries, large segments of the population are illiterate. '.

I agree that speaking is the most important. I agree that TV and film are useful tools. I would add that watching soap operas, while painful at times, is good because the plots are so obvious, even if you miss the meaning of a few sentences, you don't get lost overall and later you figure out what they must have said. Listening to Spanish language radio in your car helps too. Those fuckers talk really fast so just let it wash over you for the most part, but it will sin.There are 4 parts to learning a new language, in order of difficulty: reading, speaking, writing and hearing.

Hearing is most difficult because most people speak rapidly and informally. Spoken language is full of colloquialisms and cliches. Especially in English, it's often full of grammatical errors. Reading is easiest because any unknown word is right where you can look it up and the meaning of many words can be inferred contextually.

Speaking correctly, not only with correct pronunciation, but also with the correct rhythm takes a lot of time and practice. However, unlike hearing, you control the tempo and vocabulary. Making yourself understood is easier than understanding others.

The difficulty with writing is that written language needs to follow all the rules. Mastering the written language is easier than mastering the spoken language, but for a beginner the ñ (tilde in English) and ' (tilde in Spanish) can be confusing.

Neglecting reading and writing will slow down the learning process. Reading helps to build your vocabulary in a controlled environment. It also helps stress correct structure and grammar. Writing helps to organize your thoughts and helps you to avoid mistakes like confusing ano and año, cono and coño.

Work on all 4. Since hearing is the hardest and most important, more effort should be put there, with less effort towards writing.

BayBoy
03-19-18, 23:59
More on this CIA Factbook. The CIA has had a despicable record when it comes to Central and South America and the Caribbean. From overthrowing countries, to suppressing progressive / liberal / socialist movements and politicians. But that being said, there's no reason for them to jimmy the racial / ethnic people mix of a country. Even though when it comes out with 84% of the population of Colombia is Mestizo and white. That's a wide berth and they don't have very accurate statistics for those 2 groups; could have wide variance with the numbers.

Dickhead
03-20-18, 00:36
Okay Dickhead, I will bite on this discussion. Here are two links I posted in the Valencia, Spain section.

https://hbr.org/2013/11/countries-with-better-english-have-better-economies

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/jul/6/20060706-085927-3579r/

I was very hopeful that the desosvalencia operation, which posted a notification on ISG of its grand opening, would make an effort to service non-Spanish speakers like their sister operation desosbarcelona does. All a person has to do to make an appointment with desosbarcelona is to compose a message in English on one side of Google Translate, translate it to Spanish (or Catalan if you think you might be dealing with a rebel), copy and paste it into whatsapp, and send it. Sometimes the message comes back in Spanish, and you reverse the process, sometimes it comes back as a whatsapp voice message in English from a sexy sounding lady. But at the Valencia location, so far, they don't have whatsapp, they ignore translated SMS messages, and they politely say they don't speak English when someone calls.

Most all Madrid brothels and independents either speak English or use the above-described translation system either via Whatsapp or email. But there is one specialty place I wanted to go in Madrid where they just have a landline and they speak no English. They post their exact address and door code on the Spalumi message board and invite walk-ins, and when I called I could tell the madam really wanted me to come over, but her spoken English was as bad as my spoken Spanish. So I just went someplace easier.

So I am less likely to go to Valencia in comparison to Barcelona, and I am less likely to go to that particular "non-English friendly" Madrid place in comparison to other Madrid places.

I have been to two countries in South America and I had a much more difficult time getting around in comparison to Europe, including when it comes to mongering. If it hadn't been for Laura's wonderful translation service for john's in Buenos Aires, I would have been completely lost. So I am relatively more likely to go to Europe than to South America. I was supposed to stay at the Mansion once, but I had to cancel the trip due to a flight schedule change. But if I go to Medellin, I would definitely stay at the Mansion due to my lack of Spanish.

So here is my question as it relates to the links I posted. Given the relative proprtion of overall worldwide income and wealth amongst English speaking men, wouldn't it make more sense for South American providers to greatly step-up their game with technology to translate to and from English, and step-up their game with respect to speaking English in general?

It is automatic in the hospitality industry that English will be spoken, because the hospitality industry knows that their ideal customer base speaks English. If you were a hot, young female sex worker, wouldn't it make the most sense to work on English skills, and technological abilities to attract the customers with the most wealth. The English speakers?

I can't figure out why South America is so far behind Europe in English, given the proximity of South America to the United States and the importance of the trade relationship. Wouldn't an emphasis on English raise incomes throughout South America, including those of sex workers? Why the lack of English in South America?Because of the vestiges of colonialism. South Americans have poorer educational opportunities and live in more economically disadvantaged conditions. The per capita incomes in LatAm are 1/5 that of Spain. Your ignorance is unbelievable, and is part of the problem. Europeans get free public education. Latin America remains 20-30% illiterate because if your parents can't pay for your education you don't get any. Understand?

YippieKayay
03-20-18, 01:06
I can't figure out why South America is so far behind Europe in English, given the proximity of South America to the United States and the importance of the trade relationship. Wouldn't an emphasis on English raise incomes throughout South America, including those of sex workers? Why the lack of English in South America?They don't need English. All their business is conducted in Spanish. In fact my colleagues in Spanish speaking LATAM learn Portuguese as a higher priority than English because they do more business in Brazil. My Brazilian colleagues tend to study Italian and Spanish as well. I've only met one Colombian who spoke French and that's because he comes from a wealthy family and was sent abroad to study. He speaks Spanish and French (not English).

Also how does speaking English raise incomes? I mean other than working in the tourist industries I don't see it being very important. Multinationals who hire locals in LATAM don't necessarily pay them higher wages. They look at what the market pays and maybe pay a little more to attract better talent but that's about it. Unlike what some mongers do (paying $200 USD for short time with a chica), foreign investment in LATAM isn't looking to pay European or North American wages in LATAM countries.