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Elvis 2008
04-25-22, 05:59
No. You would be a "simp" (and I hate that word), because of things like:

1. Supporting a woman is a privilege.

2. A woman must earn your monogamy.

3. Paying to move a hooker and her family to another country.

6. Claiming a woman who already has a kid by some loser is the best of the best. She fucked up the most important decision she'll ever make and had to find a sucker to support her, her mistake and apparently her family too.You keep trying to make your 7's into 10's. The ex fianc was a petrochemical engineer and model not a WG. A best of the best woman is not going to put up with your seeing four other women and if you had one special one, you would have kept her and blown the others off.

You are paying WGs. I am supporting someone I care about. In the USA, one is virtuous and the other is a crime, and you are calling me names? LOL. You are a five time john, loser.

That comment about her "fucking up" by having a kid is about as tactless as you can get. Who knew Osteo would be the voice of reason? You are actually saying a woman should have had an abortion to win an argument? WTF is wrong with you?

All your really doing is showing what loser hos your women are. You would not know what a 10 woman was if she bit you in the ass.

Osteoknot
04-25-22, 08:01
You failed to comprehend.Yeah, after I responded to your post I thought better of it. Didn't really make sense to read your post out of context like I did.

My prototype for the best of the best kind of chica you can find around here is the young single mother with an only child delivered by Cesarean and with her mom at home.

Kid: Mom is highly motivated to use her wet holes to provide for child.

Cesarean: Outlet tract has not been dilated and stretched, although these Colombian and Venezuelan pussies and assholes snap back like nothing I ever saw in North America.

Mom: Built in child-care.

At this point, we are discussing personal preference, so you may certainly have the last word if you wish.

Villainy
04-25-22, 16:55
You are paying WGs. I am supporting someone I care about. In the USA, one is virtuous and the other is a crime, and you are calling me names? LOL. You are a five time john, loser.

That comment about her "fucking up" by having a kid is about as tactless as you can get. Who knew Osteo would be the voice of reason? You are actually saying a woman should have had an abortion to win an argument? WTF is wrong with you?

All your really doing is showing what loser hos your women are. You would not know what a 10 woman was if she bit you in the ass.WoW. JjBee62 is paying working-girls but not Elvis. Oh no! He is supporting a working-girl that he cares about. I'm sorry Elvis. There is a universal rule and it applies whether you are a frequent monger or just an occasional one. You don't fall in love with your hooker. You can like her, you can be in awe of how she makes you feel for those rented moments but come to grips with reality. She loves your wallet and not you. The minute someone comes along and throws more money at her than you can. You're going to wonder how she could disappear after all you've done for her.

You call her a '10'. OK, of course, your rating system is based on your own subjective tastes. Your '10' might easily be my '7' and vice versa. There is no universal standard with regards to beauty. But what makes her so special? Does she have an advanced degree? Does she spend hundreds of hours a year helping people who are less fortunate than herself? What qualities does she have other than you like the way she looks and they way she makes you feel in bed??

I'll summarize it in a way you might be able to understand (if not now, then later). JjBee62, Mr. E and Huacho are finding their pleasures in an economical, rational way. They aren't looking for love in all the wrong places.

You (Elvis) on the other hand are trying to buy love. And you're trying to buy it from a "sugar baby" (to use one of the less pungent descriptions).

Will she still be a 10 when she sprouts a few wrinkles? What about when her boobs start to sag? What about when you get tired of steak and you crave lobster? Or Peking duck? (it feels pretty slimy to compare women to food but that analogy seems to thrill you).

Oh and finally, how is her English? Good? Great? Still learning? Well maybe she can teach you the difference between "your" and "you're".

JjBee62
04-25-22, 20:28
Yeah, after I responded to your post I thought better of it. Didn't really make sense to read your post out of context like I did.

My prototype for the best of the best kind of chica you can find around here is the young single mother with an only child delivered by Cesarean and with her mom at home.

Kid: Mom is highly motivated to use her wet holes to provide for child.

Cesarean: Outlet tract has not been dilated and stretched, although these Colombian and Venezuelan pussies and assholes snap back like nothing I ever saw in North America.

Mom: Built in child-care.

At this point, we are discussing personal preference, so you may certainly have the last word if you wish.Nothing wrong with your personal preference. I could debate either side of with or without kids, if we're talking strictly for compensated coitus. I'll go against the Cesarean, however. The less scars the better. I might feel differently if I has encountered any Tom Petty pussy in Colombia.

If I decided to marry one, with or without a kid would be possible. However, if I was looking for a Sugar Baby, childless is better.

JjBee62
04-25-22, 23:52
You keep trying to make your 7's into 10's. The ex fianc was a petrochemical engineer and model not a WG. A best of the best woman is not going to put up with your seeing four other women and if you had one special one, you would have kept her and blown the others off.

You are paying WGs. I am supporting someone I care about. In the USA, one is virtuous and the other is a crime, and you are calling me names? LOL. You are a five time john, loser.

That comment about her "fucking up" by having a kid is about as tactless as you can get. Who knew Osteo would be the voice of reason? You are actually saying a woman should have had an abortion to win an argument? WTF is wrong with you?

All your really doing is showing what loser hos your women are. You would not know what a 10 woman was if she bit you in the ass.A petrochemical engineer now? My goodness! Next she'll be a former Miss Universe. It's strange that a petrochemical engineer would give up her career to be a SB, or need someone to not only support her, but pay to relocate her and her family. And she gave up her free ride to fall for (if I remember correctly) a MLM scam? Doesn't seem like she was a very good petrochemical engineer.

I'm paying WGs and you're supporting someone you care about? Is there a difference? I'm paying by the fuck, you're paying by the month. Considering the someone you care about was advertising on SA looking for someone to support her, the only difference is I don't confuse paying for sex with being in love.

I've never tried to turn a 7 into a 10. Rating beauty on a 1-10 scale is for adolescents, particularly if you're discussing anything beyond FFF encounters (find them, fuck them, forget them). As for the women I'm with, my rating system is Boolean, not numerical.

1. Do I want to spend time with her?

2. Did I enjoy spending time with her?

3. Do I want to spend more time with her?

Whether or not other people want to spend time with her isn't part of the process. Why would it be? Do you also worry that other guys won't be impressed by what you eat?

The beauty of my system is my happiness isn't bound to some stranger's opinion. It also has a simple solution. If I'm happy, the loop resets. If I'm not, it breaks the loop. Your system goes on until the girl realizes you aren't paying her enough to put up with you. Then there's the crying, the begging, the name calling, the threats, followed by the pouting.

Who mentioned abortion? Perhaps you haven't heard about the options for preventing pregnancy? There are quite a few, and most are inexpensive and readily available. There's also the free option, "think before you fuck. " Granted, most teenagers don't consider the consequences of their actions.

Here's a bit of wisdom for you. The time to make a decision about an action with potential consequences, is before the action, not after you're facing the consequences.

How am I showing what "loser hos" my women are? First, they're not mine. That whole owning other people thing was outlawed. Second, how does having a job, or attending university make someone a loser? How does making it past 18 without a child they can't support make women losers? Finally, how does not requesting or expecting payment for sex make a woman a ho?

Just for the sake of illustrating your foolishness, let's assume the women I see are "loser hos. " Why are the women I date such a significant factor in your life? They could all be psychopaths or saints and it should have no bearing on your life, yet it does. I only mentioned them to illustrate that your criteria for a "best of the best" girl are not the universal best criteria.

Just to clarify, saying someone fucked up, even if it involves the most important decision in their life, isn't a judgment. Almost everyone fucks up a few important decisions. Most recover from their mistakes and go on to fuck something else up. Are you saying that getting pregnant by someone you called a loser was a wise choice?

I do see WGs. It's clearly stated and agreed upon in advance. Whether they have jobs or children doesn't matter, except as a topic of conversation between the WG and I. If I didn't see WGs I would never have signed on to ISG. If people who see WGs are all losers, why are you here?

As with all of your tantrums, this one was completely unnecessary (but I'm enjoying it). You found a girl. You decided to commit to that girl, without actually committing. You could have simply said "I found my dream girl and I'm no longer looking" and everyone would have toasted your success and wished you luck. Drop mic and exit triumphant.

But that doesn't work for you. You would rather fail and have everyone congratulate you for succeeding, than to succeed without anyone noticing. Instead of making a simple statement (or fading away, as most people would do), you had to claim a success beyond anyone's reach. When nobody erected a statue to commemorate your incredible achievement (finding a girl who was looking for someone to support her, and agreeing to support her, an achievement the equivalent of successfully buying a beer at a bar, correction, the best of the best beer), you went through your normal cycle. First you pleaded for someone to acknowledge you, then you resorted to hyperbole, self-congratulation and ultimately, insults.

Why not just lead with the insults?

Huacho
04-26-22, 00:40
You are paying WGs. I am supporting someone I care about. And the difference is minuscule and unclear to many on this board.


In the USA, one is virtuous stupid and simp-like and the other is a crime whose 'victim' remains unclear.Fixed that for you!

JjBee62
04-26-22, 00:42
WoW. JjBee62 is paying working-girls but not Elvis. Oh no! He is supporting a working-girl that he cares about. I'm sorry Elvis. There is a universal rule and it applies whether you are a frequent monger or just an occasional one. You don't fall in love with your hooker. You can like her, you can be in awe of how she makes you feel for those rented moments but come to grips with reality. She loves your wallet and not you. The minute someone comes along and throws more money at her than you can. You're going to wonder how she could disappear after all you've done for her.

You call her a '10'. OK, of course, your rating system is based on your own subjective tastes. Your '10' might easily be my '7' and vice versa. There is no universal standard with regards to beauty. But what makes her so special? Does she have an advanced degree? Does she spend hundreds of hours a year helping people who are less fortunate than herself? What qualities does she have other than you like the way she looks and they way she makes you feel in bed??

I'll summarize it in a way you might be able to understand (if not now, then later). JjBee62, Mr. E and Huacho are finding their pleasures in an economical, rational way. They aren't looking for love in all the wrong places.

You (Elvis) on the other hand are trying to buy love. And you're trying to buy it from a "sugar baby" (to use one of the less pungent descriptions)..Any reality check for Elvis is going to come back marked "NSF."

I fall in love with every hooker. I get sweaty, my pulse races, I get flushed, all clear signs. But I always remember "if you love something set it free. If it comes back it's yours forever."

Once my pulse returns to normal, I set my love free by peeling off the condom and dropping it in the trash. So far none have returned.

Huacho
04-26-22, 01:39
Just to clarify, saying someone fucked up, even if it involves the most important decision in their life, isn't a judgment. Almost everyone fucks up a few important decisions. Yeah but most don't affect your life for 18 to 21 years, unless they involve very serious felonies, let getting pregnant without intending to or getting someone pregnant without intending to. And it's a mistake involving at least three people. Just sayin'.

RamDavidson84
04-26-22, 05:07
Had a good weekend here in the USA. I have a friend who periodically messes with high end escorts. He decides to visit and party for a night at my place with two escorts. They wanted 2000 $ a piece USD for a night of all out GFE, Champagne, Tequila, hot tub, and partying fun. We countered 1000 $ a piece, they settled at 1250 a piece. My boy knows the one girl and has partied with her before and confirms she is a good time and shows me pics and in her pics she is a high 8, black chick, very urban but fun attitude. The friend looks just as hot. The girls show up and they are fun and personable and it was a good time. Slightly less hot than the pics. More like solid 7's, but still both pretty. Overall, paid these girls 2500 $ and they hung tight and partied until literally 1:00 in the afternoon the next day, good 12-13 hour session. My boy covered most of it and I m going to have to pay him back, he is a long time good friend of mine, but the whole time I am thinking, this shit would be so much cheaper in Colombia with girls who are solid 8's, not 7's. Of course, I didn't have to travel to another country and catch a flight and a hotel room and deal with the language issues, but anyone who thinks prices are even kinda close is way off. These girls would be getting 300-400 k Pesos in Parque Lleras and in Centro, 60-100 k maybe?, I don't fuck with Centro?

Been following the Elvis debates on how he spends his money. Personally I could never have feelings of love for a girl I am paying to fuck, even a sugar baby type scenario. I am also still banging decent chicks in the states for free once in awhile. Maybe when I hit my late 50's-60's I would be more open to paying a chick for a relationship which involved real love, but as of right now I couldn't do it. My main point is, why do you guys care so much what he does with his money. If that's how the dude wants to run his show, you ain't walking in that man's show, who gives a fuck what he does. I get it, he brags about it a bit much, but cmon we all do that, dudes like to flaunt their shit a bit.

If anyone who has seen the TV show "Modern Family", I would absolutely be thrilled with my life if I got a chick like Sofia Vergara in my 60's whether I am paying her or not LOL. Any man who disagrees with that is either a sex fiend or a liar haha. In all seriousness though, I don't like tell other dudes how to spend their money as long as it ain't fucking the game up for the rest of us. I don't Elvis doing the sugar baby route does anything to fuck with the game.

Elvis 2008
04-26-22, 05:22
Fixed that for you!LOL. You did not fix shit. What I said was accurate.


And the difference is minuscule and unclear to many on this board.Which says how fucked in the head you guys are.

I am supporting a single mom and her kid. You are paying hos. Sorry, that is the way it is.

That is so you Haucho. If you hang out with a few other guys and agree on something, what is true or legal no longer holds. You imagine yourself to be in this majority but time after time, the real majority of people is disgusted by your actions, and you fucking know it.

If you were not interested in pleasing and high fiving others here, I am actually showing you a way out of your fucked up life, but you are too damaged to see it.

As for wasting your time reading here, what worthwhile things were you going to do: drink yourself to death, get stoned, bang a street walker, or clean your counter tops a tenth time?

Osteoknot
04-26-22, 05:30
Any reality check for Elvis is going to come back marked "NSF."

I fall in love with every hooker. I get sweaty, my pulse races, I get flushed, all clear signs. But I always remember "if you love something set it free. If it comes back it's yours forever."

Once my pulse returns to normal, I set my love free by peeling off the condom and dropping it in the trash. So far none have returned.Happens to me a lot. I can tell it's lust and not love because as soon as I get my rocks off I start thinking exit strategy, hers or mine, depending on the setting. If I can still look at her after sex and not feel an immediate need to scale a barbed-wire fence to get away, then I call that falling in-like. Those can be some fun chicas to hang out with and have more than one sexual encounter per session.

Love takes it to the next level but I am not trying to be monogamous or exclude other chicas, at this time. Plus, I don't know what love is.

Fortunately, my Numero Uno Novia Catgirl feels the same way, the main difference is she likes girls as much as guys. We are crossing a milestone. Up until now, she's been in charge of the girls brought into our relationship, her girlfriends, for trios, which was still a good thing so I was more than happy to go along for the ride.

But I have known several girls in MDE for over two years now, and they all know about Catgirl, and they would all do a three-way with us if I asked, and probably five of them really want to do a trio with Catgirl and I.

Recently I sent a couple of TikTok videos of a really cute girl I have known for over two years to Catgirl and she agreed to the three-way on my next visit, so now I got that going for me.

Elvis 2008
04-26-22, 07:51
A petrochemical engineer now? My goodness!Obviously, you were clueless about what was going on in Venezuela.

What you do not get about her though is that she was the best looking woman I saw in Peru. Your comment about her and my current gal, "you are the best she is going to get" did not hold true with the Venezuelan. I knew she could get better than me and she has. Somebody paid for her to have $20,0000 in plastic surgery. When you have a real 10, other guys line up with wallets in hand, and the current gal is more striking than the Venezuelan.

The concept that it is a privilege to pay for her is not an exaggeration when you know that there is a line of guys out the door who would pay even more. That you do not get that tells me you have not had a 10. Hell, you do not know what one is.

And your bragging is just your undoing again. You have five women you pay? I had more women than that and gave them all up because this one was better than all of them. Why don't you do the same? Because you do not have a 10, you have a bunch of 7's.

And I had to read Villany's dumb comments because I had not logged in and he said, "You do not fall in love with your WG." No, dummy, a guy should take his feelings out of the mix and listen to others. Your moronic method excludes that a woman might actually care about more than money.

And if a ho is someone who takes money for the expectation of sex, that is going to be almost any Colombian woman with an American man with a decent salary or wealth. A woman can be a ho and just see one guy. A pro is someone who sees multiple guys. Your phrasing should be "do not fall in love with a pro".

And again, your comments reveal you to be a loser. If you fell for a Colombian woman, and you have asymmetrical income and wealth, and you want to spend time together, it is natural that you would supplement her. That you have never had such a dilemma tells me about the women you are seeing and your crusty old ass. Who could fall for a curmudgeon like you?

Your and you're? Really? WTF is wrong with you?


Why not just lead with the insults?I do not have to. You guys keep making yourselves look badly.


The beauty of my system is my happiness isn't bound to some stranger's opinion. It also has a simple solution.And this is what I mean. You have no clue what a 10 is. You just said it. You have no clue about the market value of a girl. None.

I repeat, it is a privilege to pay for the one who has a line of guys out the door. It is stupid to do that if a woman does not have other suitors. That is basic price and demand.

If you do not know what other offers the women is getting, she is not going to be happy with you if you do not at least match it. You have a sound strategy for bagging 5's and 7's at best.

And market value is true not just of hos but of virgins. I had an Arab friend whose family met with another. My friend told his dad that he would like to date the daughter, who was probably a virgin, in the other family. He told me she looked like Geena Davis. His father shook his head and said, "No, son, you do not have the money."


Considering the someone you care about was advertising on SA looking for someone to support her.LOL. Professor Shit for Brains strikes again. Have you ever used it and been on a date? Mr. E said that the same women were on Colombian Cupid and SA, and he never did either.

So none of you dummies have ever even been on a date from SA but you know all about it? The SA women are the same as the ones in El Centro and on Colombia Cupid?

Sure maybe some are, but you get every type on the site and you have no clue why the women are there. The best women I met from the site were told it was a good place to meet quality men by their friends, and they had no idea what an arrangement was.


Instead of making a simple statement, you had to claim a success beyond anyone's reach.It is really not beyond anyone's reach. You guys are just satisfied with mediocrity. The pathetic part is all the lame excuses you all make.

The SA is just one thing. I say I met a 10 off of a SA, and you guys are like, "I know all about SA, and that means she is a ho. " I then ask if you have ever used it yourself. You say no and there is this litany of bullshit that you think of as expertise, and that is just one example.

Elvis 2008
04-26-22, 19:10
I'm surprised. I figured you would be off licking your wounds for another week. Did you just get a testosterone booster and started feeling macho again? You're right about one thing. Most of the working girls will take all the gringo boyfriends they can get. However, as usual, you assume your experiences are the same as mine.Wow, I missed this.

Normally, I would delight at seeing you and a fellow douche during a breakup, but Paulie was at a different level of crazy then you.

You parroted the MSNBC douche talking point that jobs return but lives never do. Well, there has been one million deaths in the USA, and any notion that public health officials knew what they were doing should be vanquished, but I doubt you feel that way. I said by eliminating jobs these public health nuts were destroying the economy for certain without any proven benefit with Covid, and a recent government study showed that the states that locked down the least hard did best by their citizens.

Of course, the $6 trillion Covid bill was deferred, put on credit to be paid another time, and that time is now. The bill is being paid via inflation, and everyone is taking a 10 to 15% haircut on the cash they have in their wallets. This is the government way, deaths by millions of cuts versus one big one.

While Paulie thinks is that arguing about a hooker board is about winning via popularity here, I would say for me it is instructive. I see how people have so bought the false narrative and go against it. To wit, Paulie was locking himself up in his mommy's basement was Covid was raging. You defended him doing so. I was out in Mexico and Colombia scoring women like never before staying in hotels at dirt cheap prices, flying for next to nothing, and having a ball in empty amusement parks. Let me ask you one question now: was Colombia right to have instituted a travel ban, JJBee? If you say they were, you are as hopeless as Paulie.

And there is no way I would have met the gal I did if not for Covid.

And do you think I am sitting on assets now, looking at them as they go down and saying "Oh, the Fed knows what they are doing. I am sure everything will be fine" or am I cashing in on the decline? Paulie thinks winning is being more popular on the forum. To me, there is huge gains to be made in going against a popular but wrong narrative. I see winning as having a ton of cash and the best looking women having the best sex.

Paulie is so stupid he does not get how to win the game. Do you?

Huacho
04-27-22, 07:25
clean your counter tops a tenth time?This dude comes up with some really strange stuff. Counter tops?

Mr Enternational
04-28-22, 21:23
My main point is, why do you guys care so much what he does with his money. If that's how the dude wants to run his show, you ain't walking in that man's show, who gives a fuck what he does.I do not think anyone cares what he does with his money. It is the fact that he comes here and says nobody else can find a chick to pay like the one he pays. It is also that he refuses to attribute the fact that she is with him to him spending all this money.

And for all we know this could be the ugliest laziest woman in the world to anyone else, but because she does it for him she is the greatest thing since sliced bread and everyone else should be jealous and up their game to get one just like her.

Trying to sell the idea of this chick here is like trying to sell pussy to a punk. Not interested! But he wants to force everyone to be interested in something they do not want.

Elvis 2008
04-28-22, 21:29
This dude comes up with some really strange stuff. Counter tops?LOL. You bragged about your Covid cleaning. You mean you have stopped now?

Mr Enternational
04-28-22, 21:38
Mr. E said that the same women were on Colombian Cupid and SA, and he never did either.Colombian Cupid no. But I have been on Latin American Cupid meeting chicks in Colombia for 17 years. And the very first Colombian chick I met on there was a childless lawyer that I did not have to support. She took the bus 14 hours from Cucuta to meet me in Bogota. I did not speak Spanish back then and she did not speak English.

Huacho
04-29-22, 06:13
LOL. You bragged about your Covid cleaning. You mean you have stopped now?I had forgotten all about that but that stopped after I got vaxxed. I do use a lot of bleach spray though.

Mr Enternational
04-29-22, 13:20
Had a good weekend here in the USA. I have a friend who periodically messes with high end escorts. He decides to visit and party for a night at my place with two escorts. They wanted 2000 $ a piece USD for a night of all out GFE, We countered 1000 $ a piece, they settled at 1250 a piece. , but the whole time I am thinking, this shit would be so much cheaper in Colombia with girls who are solid 8's, not 7's. Of course, I didn't have to travel to another country and catch a flight and a hotel room and deal with the language issues, but anyone who thinks prices are even kinda close is way off. These girls would be getting 300-400 k Pesos in Parque LlerasWhat makes these chicks high end besides the fact they say they are and they want to charge $2000? Were they high end the first day they started fucking, or did they not get to be high end until they had been around the block a few times and earned enough to buy a fancy purse and fake hair?

You could have found the same type chicks for free, for $100, or for $5,000. For that reason I do not think it is saying much trying to compare prices of some random chicks your buddy chose for who knows what reason. You could just as well talk about the free chicks you and you buddy hooked up with from local facebook groups, as me and my buddies do in our group chat.

We also need to figure if someone is traveling to another country solely to get their dick wet or if they want to get away for R&R. Personally, I would much rather jump on a plane for $300 or $400 to some place I like for a few days, pay $50 per day for a room, and hang out with and fuck several local GFE chicks from $20 to $100, than simply pay $1250 to be with 1 chick where I live for 1 night. But that is just me.

FlashShaker
04-29-22, 13:39
Colombian Cupid no. But I have been on Latin American Cupid meeting chicks in Colombia for 17 years. And the very first Colombian chick I met on there was a childless lawyer that I did not have to support. She took the bus 14 hours from Cucuta to meet me in Bogota. I did not speak Spanish back then and she did not speak English.Damn dude, you should've just bought her a plane ticket. Damn 14 h shit! Need to find me a chic that'll do that for me. LOL.

JjBee62
04-29-22, 15:40
What makes these chicks high end besides the fact they say they are and they want to charge $2000? Were they high end the first day they started fucking, or did they not get to be high end until they had been around the block a few times and earned enough to buy a fancy purse and fake hair?

You could have found the same type chicks for free, for $100, or for $5,000. For that reason I do not think it is saying much trying to compare prices of some random chicks your buddy chose for who knows what reason. You could just as well talk about the free chicks you and you buddy hooked up with from local facebook groups, as me and my buddies do in our group chat.

We also need to figure if someone is traveling to another country solely to get their dick wet or if they want to get away for R&R. Personally, I would much rather jump on a plane for $300 or $400 to some place I like for a few days, pay $50 per day for a room, and hang out with and fuck several local GFE chicks from $20 to $100, than simply pay $1250 to be with 1 chick where I live for 1 night. But that is just me.Why pay $1250, even if that's the best possible deal available, for all night GFE? They're getting paid to drink and party, and spending maybe 45 minutes actually doing what they get paid for. Why compare them to Parque Lleras girls? In what fantasy world are Parque Lleras girls doing all night GFE from 300-400 k? If you find a desperate one after the bars close, you might get her to agree to 400 K, but chances are slim you're getting either all out GFE or all night. I have no problem paying to eat, drink and party, but not at 2-3 times over the going rate.

The time to complain about the price of something is before the deal, not the next day.

Mr Enternational
04-29-22, 18:40
Damn dude, you should've just bought her a plane ticket. Damn 14 h shit! Need to find me a chic that'll do that for me. LOL.It only takes 1 time to learn the hard way. I think it was 2 years ago I bought a chick a ticket from Barranquilla to Bogota. She missed the flight and did not even have money to get home from the airport. She has not talked to me since as if it was my fault I wasted how much ever money it was. Freaking sad. How are you in a city that you grew up in yet know nobody that can come to the airport to pick you up or meet you at your house to pay a taxi? Chicks are a little more careful when they have skin in the game and have invested money and time of their own.

A brother in the Rio thread bought a chick a ticket for the 45 minute flight from Sao Paulo to Rio and she missed the flight. Only thing he had other stuff set up for them upon her arrival. So with him having prepaid for all of that, he said he lost about $800 because well it was not her money so what did she care if she was late.

Elvis 2008
04-29-22, 21:23
They wanted 2000 $ a piece USD for a night of all out GFE, Champagne, Tequila, hot tub, and partying fun. We countered 1000 $ a piece, they settled at 1250 a piece.LOL. And now you are going through what I am. You pay a decent price for USA pussy and everyone on this forum says you overpaid. What I have learned the guys do on the Medellin forum is compare their 5's and 6's to 9's and 10's and say you are wasting your money.


Personally I could never have feelings of love for a girl I am paying to fuck, even a sugar baby type scenario.Yeah, paying her to fuck never happened. I gave her no cash the first six months or so we we were together. She told me she had a job offer that paid $500 a month and she would see me less often if she took it. I covered that amount so I could see her more often.

I pay the rent on her place, but I would have to be for a hotel if I did not get the place.

My friends saw my gal's pics and called her a 10. I think she would be fetching $2000 a night easy in NYC if she went that route, but she never would.


If that's how the dude wants to run his show, you ain't walking in that man's show, who gives a fuck what he does. I get it, he brags about it a bit much, but cmon we all do that, dudes like to flaunt their shit a bit. If anyone who has seen the TV show "Modern Family", I would absolutely be thrilled with my life if I got a chick like Sofia Vergara in my 60's whether I am paying her or not LOL.Sofia Vergara is five foot seven, 140 lbs. Her measurements are 38-28-39. My gal is five feet 10,125 lbs. Measurements are around 34-24-37, and she worked from age 13 to the day she got pregnant as a model. I am biased, but I think my girl is prettier than SV.

Thing with these dummies is they keep trying to throw out these rules based on the centro chick low lifes and do not get that their rules will not work to get a gal like the one I have.

If you are honest about pricing with the fools on this forum, you get slaughtered. JJBee's comments about $200 hos in the USA said it all. He said he can get good looking women for $200 and did not one list one link to any woman.

Mr. E really thinks his average looking women are as good as the ones you paid four figures for, and JJBee knows he could get the same quality women as you got for half what you paid.

I was trying to tell them how to fish for what I got, and all these bullshit artists insist what they have is as good as what I do and that I am overpaying for a ho.

JjBee62
04-30-22, 00:12
LOL. And now you are going through what I am. You pay a decent price for USA pussy and everyone on this forum says you overpaid. What I have learned the guys do on the Medellin forum is compare their 5's and 6's to 9's and 10's and say you are wasting your money.A decent price for pussy, anywhere in the world, is however much the buyer is comfortable paying. Regardless of how hard you try to insist that every woman you're with is a 10 and every woman anyone else has ever been with is a 5-7, it's all just bullshit. You haven't learned shit, because you're not seeing who everyone is fucking and more importantly you're not seeing the girls from the other person's eyes.


Yeah, paying her to fuck never happened. I gave her no cash the first six months or so we we were together. She told me she had a job offer that paid $500 a month and she would see me less often if she took it. I covered that amount so I could see her more often.

I pay the rent on her place, but I would have to be for a hotel if I did not get the place.You sure about that? It would appear, within about 3 weeks you'll have been with her for 2 years. At the rate your clock is moving you'll have been with her for 8 years by July.

I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not. Hotels rent rooms by the night. You don't have to pay for the month, if you're only staying 5 days.


My friends saw my gal's pics and called her a 10. I think she would be fetching $2000 a night easy in NYC if she went that route, but she never would.

Sofia Vergara is five foot seven, 140 lbs. Her measurements are 38-28-39. My gal is five feet 10,125 lbs. Measurements are around 34-24-37, and she worked from age 13 to the day she got pregnant as a model. I am biased, but I think my girl is prettier than SV.My friends saw my gals pics and said she was a 12.

It doesn't matter what your friends say, or what my friends say, when you or I are the ones saying what they are saying. However, almost everyone is comfortable with their own opinion and they don't need to bring in imaginary support. Literally nobody except you does that.


Thing with these dummies is they keep trying to throw out these rules based on the centro chick low lifes and do not get that their rules will not work to get a gal like the one I have.

If you are honest about pricing with the fools on this forum, you get slaughtered. JJBee's comments about $200 hos in the USA said it all. He said he can get good looking women for $200 and did not one list one link to any woman.You said your girl was a 10 and didn't post a single picture. That says it all.

Why would I post links to girls who are local for me? I'm not getting paid to get them exposure and it's not going to be much use to someone in Philadelphia.


Mr. E really thinks his average looking women are as good as the ones you paid four figures for, and JJBee knows he could get the same quality women as you got for half what you paid.You still don't get it and never will. Nobody, especially me, gives a fuck about the quality of women anyone else is getting and almost nobody gives a shit about how much they paid. What you say is the best sex ever might just be average to someone else. And no matter what the woman looks like there are plenty of guys who wouldn't fuck her for free, and there are guys who would pay top dollar for women who you wouldn't look at. Everyone has their own standards. You're the only person insisting everyone use your standards, without providing a single example of what your standards are.

The last time I checked, the only people who feel the experience when I fuck, are me and whoever I'm fucking. And so far I've never asked someone else to pay for my hookers. Until you can feel it when I'm getting laid, or until you're paying for it, it shouldn't matter. But for some unknown reason it does and always will.


I was trying to tell them how to fish for what I got, and all these bullshit artists insist what they have is as good as what I do and that I am overpaying for a ho.No and no.

No you weren't trying to teach anyone how to fish. You were doing what you've always done, claiming to have caught the best fish ever and tell everyone they will never equal your accomplishments.

Nobody has insisted what they have is as good as what you have, because nobody knows what you have and you have a long history of making shit up. What everyone has told you is they don't want what you have and they're happy with what they are getting.

RamDavidson84
04-30-22, 01:32
What makes these chicks high end besides the fact they say they are and they want to charge $2000? Were they high end the first day they started fucking, or did they not get to be high end until they had been around the block a few times and earned enough to buy a fancy purse and fake hair?

You could have found the same type chicks for free, for $100, or for $5,000. For that reason I do not think it is saying much trying to compare prices of some random chicks your buddy chose for who knows what reason. You could just as well talk about the free chicks you and you buddy hooked up with from local facebook groups, as me and my buddies do in our group chat.

We also need to figure if someone is traveling to another country solely to get their dick wet or if they want to get away for R&R. Personally, I would much rather jump on a plane for $300 or $400 to some place I like for a few days, pay $50 per day for a room, and hang out with and fuck several local GFE chicks from $20 to $100, than simply pay $1250 to be with 1 chick where I live for 1 night. But that is just me.I wouldn't say they were super high end in looks and personality, but they were the exact type of chicks me and my boy wanted. Clean, young, pretty, and pretty much did what ever we wanted all night, dancing, hot tub, partying, chillen naked, etc. Like I said they were solid 7's and they hung tight until I had to kick them out the next afternoon LOL. They know my boy gave them a good deal. The thing about this night was much more about meeting up with a long time good friend and making the most of the night to our style of partying when we see each other. The girls were solid 7's and I have fucked plenty of girls in my day on or above their level. I am getting older and its unlikely me and my boy are going to roll up to the club and just pull two girls like these and party all night with them and they treat us like kings. Trust me, I am not about the lifestyle of paying 1250 for all night GFE, but my boy is a very successful Wallstreet type guy, he owns his own finance company, and he was covering the cost for the night. Its def not my style in the USA as I have said before. He's married, so flying off for the weekend to Medellin isn't so easy for him.

I agree 1000% with you. If its just about fucking for myself and not meeting up with an old friend and I have the time, all fucking day long would I choose a long weekend in Medellin over paying these girls 1250 a piece.

RamDavidson84
04-30-22, 01:41
Why pay $1250, even if that's the best possible deal available, for all night GFE? They're getting paid to drink and party, and spending maybe 45 minutes actually doing what they get paid for. Why compare them to Parque Lleras girls? In what fantasy world are Parque Lleras girls doing all night GFE from 300-400 k? If you find a desperate one after the bars close, you might get her to agree to 400 K, but chances are slim you're getting either all out GFE or all night. I have no problem paying to eat, drink and party, but not at 2-3 times over the going rate.

The time to complain about the price of something is before the deal, not the next day.Nah, these chicks spent much more time than 45 minutes doing what they were supposed to do. I don't like to get into too dirty of details, but they did everything we wanted with enthusiasm and they were compensated quite fairly. As I have said for the millionth time now, its not my style to spend money like that, but these chicks def earned their doe and did not pull any shady shit.

Almost every time I take a chick out of Parque Lleras I get all night GFE, usually I kick them out and head out for rounds 2 or 3 late night at Faizon though. I also don't agree on prices or time until after I have chilled with a chick for awhile dancing or drinking and usually end up making out with them before we come to an agreement. I have paid anywhere from 250 k to 150 USD for a chick out of Gusto, Gusto chick was not all night, but she would have done all night for 200 USD. I was in Medellin for 10 days over summer and for a long weekend in the fall. I have been to Medellin several times pre pandemic as well. Those are the prices I paid and yes I get all night GFE if I want. Its not uncommon at all. I have had girls who do the fuck and run on me a few times, but most of the time they want to stay the night.

RamDavidson84
04-30-22, 01:43
LOL. And now you are going through what I am. You pay a decent price for USA pussy and everyone on this forum says you overpaid. What I have learned the guys do on the Medellin forum is compare their 5's and 6's to 9's and 10's and say you are wasting your money.

Yeah, paying her to fuck never happened. I gave her no cash the first six months or so we we were together. She told me she had a job offer that paid $500 a month and she would see me less often if she took it. I covered that amount so I could see her more often.

I pay the rent on her place, but I would have to be for a hotel if I did not get the place.

My friends saw my gal's pics and called her a 10. I think she would be fetching $2000 a night easy in NYC if she went that route, but she never would.

Sofia Vergara is five foot seven, 140 lbs. Her measurements are 38-28-39. My gal is five feet 10,125 lbs. Measurements are around 34-24-37, and she worked from age 13 to the day she got pregnant as a model. I am biased, but I think my girl is prettier than SV.

Thing with these dummies is they keep trying to throw out these rules based on the centro chick low lifes and do not get that their rules will not work to get a gal like the one I have..If you got a dime who rivals Sofia Vergara in looks and personality and treats you right, even if your shelling out a fortune for her, then god bless you, its your money and I would probably do the same if I had the money and I am in my 50's or 60's.

RamDavidson84
04-30-22, 01:50
What makes these chicks high end besides the fact they say they are and they want to charge $2000? Were they high end the first day they started fucking, or did they not get to be high end until they had been around the block a few times and earned enough to buy a fancy purse and fake hair?

You could have found the same type chicks for free, for $100, or for $5,000. For that reason I do not think it is saying much trying to compare prices of some random chicks your buddy chose for who knows what reason. You could just as well talk about the free chicks you and you buddy hooked up with from local facebook groups, as me and my buddies do in our group chat.

We also need to figure if someone is traveling to another country solely to get their dick wet or if they want to get away for R&R. Personally, I would much rather jump on a plane for $300 or $400 to some place I like for a few days, pay $50 per day for a room, and hang out with and fuck several local GFE chicks from $20 to $100, than simply pay $1250 to be with 1 chick where I live for 1 night. But that is just me.The point of my post simply put is this: Paying for pussy in Medellin- girls will be hotter in Medellin, girls will be significantly cheaper in Medellin, GFE is much more likely in Medellin. In USA, you can still have a good time, but its going to cost you and is definitely not my area of expertise as it doesn't make any sense for a guy like me to shell out that kind of money on a regular basis to fuck and party. Nor can my body handle it anymore LOL, felt hung over for days afterward LOL. Its also much harder to find the type of talent you want to chill with in the USA compared to walking down the street in Parque Lleras.

Elvis 2008
04-30-22, 02:46
A decent price for pussy, anywhere in the world, is however much the buyer is comfortable paying.LOL. So if you pay $20 for a Big Mac, that is okay as long as you feel like you got a good deal.


Regardless of how hard you try to insist that every woman you're with is a 10I just gave her dimensions and told you what my friends said.


It doesn't matter what your friends say, or what my friends say, when you or I are the ones saying what they are saying. However, almost everyone is comfortable with their own opinion and they don't need to bring in imaginary support.Like I said, a 10 for you is a girl on your arm.

You could not even give a link to your $200 hookers in the USA. I am seeing the same prices as Ram is and Mr. E is saying he can get gals for free and you can get them for $200 an hour.

How is that possible? Oh right, you two are completely full of shit. Do you have any fucking clue what today's rates are in the USA?

Oh right, I forgot. Whatever your rate you pay is fair; the market does not matter.


You still don't get it and never will. Nobody, especially me, gives a fuck about the quality of women anyone else is getting and almost nobody gives a shit about how much they paid. What you say is the best sex ever might just be average to someone else.And the hits keep coming. The market does not matter, and the reviews of others do not matter either.

Now I know where you are getting your $200. You go to the erotic review and scope out girls rated a 1 in looks and a 1 in performance.

I do not know what you are arguing with JJBee. My girl has the dimensions of a Victoria Secret model, and you could have a girl who is 5 foot tall and 300 lbs, and you would say as long as she is a 10 in your eyes, she is a 10. You just agreed with what I said about you.

MarquisdeSade1
04-30-22, 03:04
https://nypost.com/2022/04/29/jeff-bezos-no-3-worlds-richest-after-losing-amazon-tanks/

He's so butt fugly he can't even buy a hot puta, so he gets a fugly one like him LOL.

But I'm guessing she's still not as bad as Elvis' mythical 10 LMAO.

FUK amazon buy from anywhere but there!!

Villainy
04-30-22, 03:45
LOL. And now you are going through what I am. You pay a decent price for USA pussy and everyone on this forum says you overpaid. What I have learned the guys do on the Medellin forum is compare their 5's and 6's to 9's and 10's and say you are wasting your money.

Yeah, paying her to fuck never happened. I gave her no cash the first six months or so we we were together. She told me she had a job offer that paid $500 a month and she would see me less often if she took it. I covered that amount so I could see her more often.

I pay the rent on her place, but I would have to be for a hotel if I did not get the place.Odd, I know you haven't met me and my dates. And the same for several other people. So what makes you think our girls would be 5's or 6's? As usual you don't know what you are talking about. Nobody cares about Ram's night of debauchery, I don't get along with Ram but I'm glad he had a good time. But notice this. Ram isn't saying he bedded the hottest woman who ever lived, he doesn't think he found the Mount Everest of mongering.


My friends saw my gal's pics and called her a 10. I think she would be fetching $2000 a night easy in NYC if she went that route, but she never would.

Sofia Vergara is five foot seven, 140 lbs. Her measurements are 38-28-39. My gal is five feet 10,125 lbs. Measurements are around 34-24-37, and she worked from age 13 to the day she got pregnant as a model. I am biased, but I think my girl is prettier than SV.Your friends? You have friends? Maybe your friends lied so as not to get into a never-ending argument. Or maybe your friends think you are koo-koo for coco puffs and just tried to keep you sedated.

Oh and as too Sofia Vergara. Seriously you think you have bragging rights? How old is your dependent call-girl? 30? 28? Sofia is 49 going on 50 and she looks slamming to everyone who doesn't have eyesight impairment. Maybe you'll save a few SV photos and compare your girl after a few more years. And we'll see what your "friends" say then.


Thing with these dummies is they keep trying to throw out these rules based on the centro chick low lifes and do not get that their rules will not work to get a gal like the one I haveSeriously? You met your girl how? Through SA? How many ways are there to meet girls in Medellin. "Let me count the ways" .

1. El Centro streetwalkers.

2. Casas- throughout the city and 75% of them you won't find without local help.

3. Parque Lleras and Gustos and that area. Higher-end tourist traps.

4. Strip Clubs (Fase2, La Isla, Luna Lunera, Club Ejectivo and on and on).

5. Internet agencies (Photoprepagos, Mileroticos, Skokka).

6. Face-Book girls & Tinder.

7. Seeking Arrangement, Colombia Cupid, Latina America Cupid.

And then we reach a different plateau where the girls are amenable to an intimate tryst but they either have a job or are enrolled in university and this is just a side thing.

I'm sure I didn't get anywhere listing every possibility. So why is it you think people criticizing you are picking up the El Centro streetwalkers? And not any of the other myriad possible meeting methods?


I was trying to tell them how to fish for what I got, and all these bullshit artists insist what they have is as good as what I do and that I am overpaying for a ho.The real truth is that you came on claiming you had the prettiest working-girl ever and you were committed to her. And none of the rest of us could ever hope to do as well as you.

Sorry Elvie, as is almost always the case you don't know what you are talking about. Just because some working girl fell in love with your wallet, don't get too swollen a head.

You may not know this Elvis but there are an incredible number of gorgeous women in Colombia, and Medellin in particular. Many of them are already in love with your wallet (or mine or JjBee62's or.) it's what they do to make money. You're just another guy who fell in love with his hooker. Maybe you'll be wiser the next time.

Osteoknot
04-30-22, 06:11
The obvious pitfall for using numbers to rank a girl's beauty is I have literally seen one guy call a girl and 9 and another guy the same girl a 3. That won't change anyone's mind here.

The instant a person begins to rely on what other people believe is attractive for themselves, by definition they are practicing ego gratification. That in and of itself is not a bad thing but it is unnecessary and off-track. Psychologically, the root of this is self-insecurity and low self-esteem, often but not always compensated with over-confidence and braggadocio. There is no other explanation that covers all the situations.

In my experience, a lot of guys who play this ratings game do not discern between the illusion of a girl with make-up and dressed a certain way compared to chicas who don't. In fact, take away the make-up and a lot of these so called nines look very different. Experienced mongers know it's not what they look like when you take them home, but what they look like when you wake up next to them in the morning.

If I had to apply a ranking system, (gun to my head) I would say all my girls are nines to me, and it is irrelevant what another monger thinks. Looks might grab my attention initially, but then I immediately start factoring in all the other things that make a girl a pleasure to be around. Personality can be the attraction without a primary consideration of appearance. Basically, the girls who I end up with look the way they look, another guys 9 or a 3, I don't care.

Guys who say there girls have to be a certain number will cop-out and say they still want a girl with personality and all the intangibles but that she has to be a nine or whatever number, first. I got a newsflash for you. That is code for "I can only get it up if a girl looks a certain way". We are right back where we started. Self-doubt and insecurity.

The other cop-out is saying, "I use a number, but it only matters to me. " Newsflash #2: then you don't need a number which only has utility for comparisons with other hunters. Even if a monger believes he is using the system with like-minded mongers, for example, all their "nines" have blonde hair, blue eyes and big tits, then at least in theory you could be creating competition for yourself, which would counter-productive. Every experienced monger knows the best wingman's "nine" should be very different from your "nine", another fatal flaw of this ranking system, jajaja.

Finally, the absurdity within the absurd is a ranking of ten. If the scale is 1-10, then ten represents perfection, and no girl in the history of the world is perfect. Show me any female, any person, and my trained eye will call out an imperfection within seconds.

We will always be saddled with the common, the base, in this case using numbers to rank beauty. That is a less enlightened, less advanced viewpoint that creates unnecessary obstacles and restrictions designed to relieve the internal psychological conflicts of the mongers who use the system. They pay artificially inflated prices they themselves have created. Since all participants appear willing, I don't see the harm.

There are venues designed to attract guys who partake in this system, such as high end bars and clubs, where not surprisingly the prices are the highest for everything from the girls to the drinks.

A more enlightened conversation could go something like this. Mongerer Joe says, "I love my new girlfriend, she's just what I have been looking for. " Mongerer Bob, "What do you find so attractive about her"? Joe replies, "She weighs 400 pounds, and I love fat chics". Jaajajajaja Ostee Out.

Mr Enternational
04-30-22, 18:32
She told me she had a job offer that paid $500 a month and she would see me less often if she took it. I covered that amount so I could see her more often.

I pay the rent on her place,And you fell for that bullshit? What skills does she posses and what was she going to be doing to be paid 2 million pesos per month? I was at an old flame's house last night here in Barranquilla. For 1,100,000 pesos she works from Monday through Saturday, 6:30am to 8pm with an hour and a half for lunch.

Seems there would have been a line straight into the next city if they were giving out a job paying 2 million to someone with no skills (assuming your girl has no special skills because if she did you would have already mentioned them.)

How could she have known you two would see each other less? You may have even adjusted your schedule and it turned out you could see each other more. Me thinks you got played my man.

See a player like myself would have said okay go ahead and take the job and we will see how things work out. There would probably end up not even being a job at that point. Something would have happened and the offer would have fell through. And if it really was a real job offer, she could have always quit later with you then deciding to pay the rent if you had not continued to see each other to your satisfaction. But you put the cart before the damn horse. You need to stay 3 steps ahead of these women instead of running behind them playing catch up.

If I am ever paying rent then it is on MY place. Maybe I would allow a broad to stay in MY place (which I would not actually do) but I am not handing over money recurringly for some broad to have a place to lay her head. That shit is out of the question. Even if I was sending a chick money for any reason, I would have a key to her place. I am not helping out on bills at a place I do not have a key to and can not pop up anytime I damn well please.

Funny how this woman is so great that no other suitors and their money were good enough for her. Only Elvis and his magic $500 per month held the key to her heart. What is your secret? What did you do to crack this nut that everyone else did not?

Mr Enternational
04-30-22, 18:48
In my experience, a lot of guys who play this ratings game do not discern between the illusion of a girl with make-up and dressed a certain way compared to chicas who don't. In fact, take away the make-up and a lot of these so called nines look very different. Experienced mongers know it's not what they look like when you take them home, but what they look like when you wake up next to them in the morning.I was thinking about starting a dating site where chicks could only post 3 pictures. All would have to be against a white wall and 1 would have to be with no makeup, like a drivers license picture or mugshot, so guys would really know what they are bargaining for. I do not think it would work though because there are too many guys that are deep into the fantasy or illusion as you put it. They think if the chick has a picture on a boat or wearing special shoes then she is automatically better than another chick and worth more.

Mr Enternational
04-30-22, 19:04
A more enlightened conversation could go something like this. Mongerer Joe says, "I love my new girlfriend, she's just what I have been looking for. " Mongerer Bob, "What do you find so attractive about her"? Joe replies, "She weighs 400 pounds, and I love fat chics".You said something in that post brother. Never have I been out mongering with friends and one of us picked a chick and another said ewww, are you sure you want her. She is just a 4. Go over there and grab one of those 8s. We have no competition going. Get what you want and have fun.

Online there seems to be a big competition among strangers though. The girl that I am paying is better than yours. You girl is not good because you only have to pay her 30,000 pesos. Chicks that want more money are better. Chicks that sell pussy in this neighborhood are better than the chicks in the neighborhood you are buying pussy in.

Mr Enternational
04-30-22, 19:11
My friends saw my gal's pics and called her a 10. I think she would be fetching $2000 a night easy in NYCAnd what would she be getting in Botero Plaza? Probably the same 30 or 40K that everyone else gets around there.

MarquisdeSade1
04-30-22, 19:13
The obvious pitfall for using numbers to rank a girl's beauty is I have literally seen one guy call a girl and 9 and another guy the same girl a 3. That won't change anyone's mind here.

The instant a person begins to rely on what other people believe is attractive for themselves, by definition they are practicing ego gratification. That in and of itself is not a bad thing but it is unnecessary and off-track. Psychologically, the root of this is self-insecurity and low self-esteem, often but not always compensated with over-confidence and braggadocio. There is no other explanation that covers all the situations.

In my experience, a lot of guys who play this ratings game do not discern between the illusion of a girl with make-up and dressed a certain way compared to chicas who don't. In fact, take away the make-up and a lot of these so called nines look very different. Experienced mongers know it's not what they look like when you take them home, but what they look like when you wake up next to them in the morning.I agree with most of this post.

I think the 1-10 rating system is so subjective it is almost meaningless when talking with others.

That said.

If you put a gun to my head, I will say I have seen and done a few 10's.

Blonde haired blued eyed 18 yo absolutely perfect goddesses (xero physical flaws), no ink no babies no implants but unfortunately too much attitude for my liking (I can get more pleasure from pornhub for free sans the bitchiness).

When I monger I hunt for what in my mind would be an 8 on my internal 1-10 scale.

I will settle for some PSE with 7's, (but I typically try to avoid the divas that I would consider 9's or 10's).

But really don't want to go below that.

So in closing I think this scale should be used for "internal purposes only".

MarquisdeSade1
04-30-22, 19:14
And what would she be getting in Botero Plaza? Probably the same 30 or 40K that everyone else gets around there.If anyone seen her with him, much much less than that LOL.

Mr Enternational
04-30-22, 19:21
I am seeing the same prices as Ram is and Mr. E is saying he can get gals for free and you can get them for $200 an hour.

How is that possible? Oh right, you two are completely full of shit. Do you have any fucking clue what today's rates are in the USA?It is possible because there are tons of different chicks in tons of different places. You are talking like the big ass USA is a monolith and the only place anyone can find a female is a place where they want $2000.

Because you paid $6 for a gallon of unleaded by the airport in Los Angeles you are acting like a mf passing through Bessemer, Alabama can not get the same gallon of gas at a station for $3.30.

Just because Elvis rented a private plane to get to Miami does not mean the next mf has to get to Miami by renting a private plane and it is impossible to get there by hitchhiking, by taking a train, by driving your own car, or even by fucking walking.

You assume the only road to Rome is the one you are driving on and someone saying they arrived by any other road is full of shit.

Elvis 2008
04-30-22, 22:07
Nah, these chicks spent much more time than 45 minutes doing what they were supposed to do. I don't like to get into too dirty of details, but they did everything we wanted with enthusiasm and they were compensated quite fairly. As I have said for the millionth time now, its not my style to spend money like that, but these chicks def earned their doe and did not pull any shady shit.
No need to defend this Ram, you paid the going rate. I was kind of wondering what the fuck was going on with the pandemic. I was scoring great women in Mexico and Colombia but prices in the USA doubled.

I was usually able to pull an 8 or 9 type out of a strip club for $300. The pandemic hit and girls were asking for a $1000 an hour. LOL. They would go down but it made no sense to me until I saw this:

https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1520243705801674752

This is the money going into the hands of hos. I even talked to a dancer who got a $30,000 low interest loan and bragged about how easy it is. I bet it will be forgiven. Biden is trying to pay everyone off by forgiving all kinds of loans.

Thing is that there was this belief that printing money would not cause inflation. Well, you do enough of it and it happens. Inflation does not seem like it has hit Medellin like Cartagena but it will.

I have been loading up on triple inverse ETFS and am going to cash in. Seeing hos is like the ultimate luxury item, and it is a good time to go short when prices with them is out of control like it is now.

Elvis 2008
04-30-22, 22:27
Even if I was sending a chick money for any reason, I would have a key to her place. I am not helping out on bills at a place I do not have a key to and can not pop up anytime I damn well please.LOL. You think I do not have a key?


Funny how this woman is so great that no other suitors and their money were good enough for her. Only Elvis and his magic $500 per month held the key to her heart. What is your secret? What did you do to crack this nut that everyone else did not?Yawn. I did not pay $500 a month until we went out for six months but keep calling her a ho; that is what you guys do.

You guys who live abroad have no sense of how things are here. $500 is what you pay a well reviewed 8 in the USA for an hour. If you think that is a lot of money, you are not a player at all.


See a player like myself would have said okay go ahead and take the job and we will see how things work out. There would probably end up not even being a job at that point. Something would have happened and the offer would have fell through. And if it really was a real job offer, she could have always quit later with you then deciding to pay the rent if you had not continued to see each other to your satisfaction. But you put the cart before the damn horse. You need to stay 3 steps ahead of these women instead of running behind them playing catch up.That is what I mean. When you go after average women and you lose one, it is no big deal. You go all through all this bullshit about stupid women and women asking for marriage and standing you up and then say I got played by a 10 for $500 a month. That amount means very little to me. What do you do Mr. E and how much do you make an hour and how much do you think I make?

You have no clue what the market is in the USA and what the high end market is in Colombia. You are equating your average women with a 10.

Funny thing is the ex-fiance all you douches said was average looking just found a guy to spend $30,000 on plastic surgery on her. That is not a surprise to me. She was the prettiest girl I saw in Peru, and my current gal is even more striking.

You are completely content with your average looking women so just keep on keepin' on.

But just to be clear, I do not think you are a player. You are a bullshit artist trying to equate your 5's with my 10. You think you are so fucking smart and have the game all figured out, but I am not interested in the game you are playing and the guys I hang with typically are not interested in it either.

JjBee62
05-01-22, 00:35
The obvious pitfall for using numbers to rank a girl's beauty is I have literally seen one guy call a girl and 9 and another guy the same girl a 3. That won't change anyone's mind here.

The instant a person begins to rely on what other people believe is attractive for themselves, by definition they are practicing ego gratification. That in and of itself is not a bad thing but it is unnecessary and off-track. Psychologically, the root of this is self-insecurity and low self-esteem, often but not always compensated with over-confidence and braggadocio. There is no other explanation that covers all the situations..This brings to mind a few things.

1. When I was always going to strip clubs, I learned the difference between what you see and what is really there. All the makeup and the lighting, plus the atmosphere makes every girl look better.

2. Again from my titty bar days, I looked for the positive in every dancer. She's fat, but she's a great dancer. Her face is nothing special, but her pole work is amazing. Every woman has her flaws, but also her strong points.

3. While working with a friend, mostly driving downtown making deliveries, he kept pointing out women. Each time it was a woman with a nice ass. At the end of the day I saw a woman with by far the best backside we had seen all day, and she had a great body and face. I pointed her out to him and he was disgusted. He wondered how I could ever think someone like that was attractive. It took a moment before I understood. She was black, he was racist.

If I'm discussing a particular woman with someone, instead of saying she's a number, I simply show a picture. He then responds with what he does or doesn't like.

One last bit. I'm a real, reasonably normal man. That means what I think looks best today may not be what I want tomorrow. I can't imagine going through life and only being attracted to one specific set of attributes.

Elvis 2008
05-01-22, 03:13
Because you paid $6 for a gallon of unleaded by the airport in Los Angeles you are acting like a mf passing through Bessemer, Alabama can not get the same gallon of gas at a station for $3.30.WTF are you talking about? I can look on line and see what prices are with gasoline and with women.


You assume the only road to Rome is the one you are driving on and someone saying they arrived by any other road is full of shit.No, you are full of shit because you have not showed anyone any road, and I am here, and you are not.

I can show you countless women on line and their prices. Tell me the ones who are charging nothing or how about even more than that, how about a whole $5 an hour? Can you do that?

If you cannot do that, and I know you cannot, then you are full of shit.

Villainy
05-01-22, 05:31
I had to do some serious work to pull these pictures. I had to make sure no tattoos or faces or distinguishing marks were showing. I picked girls that I've met, talked to and arranged a pleasureable visit. (See how useful it is to be able to speak Spanish above a beginner's level) None of these girls are from FaceBook or Tinder (because someone will think they recognize them and will be quick to tell them their pics are on the internet). So it would be a minor miracle if anyone recognized one of these girls.

My primary purpose is to show Mr. Ego-Elvis that yes! Some of us can pull very pretty girls that aren't 5's or 6's. So BTW show us some pictures of your "10" or are you too ashamed? Maybe she isn't anything worth looking at.

Osteoknot
05-01-22, 07:40
I had to do some serious work to pull these pictures. I had to make sure no tattoos or faces or distinguishing marks were showing. I picked girls that I've met, talked to and arranged a pleasureable visit. (See how useful it is to be able to speak Spanish above a beginner's level) None of these girls are from FaceBook or Tinder (because someone will think they recognize them and will be quick to tell them their pics are on the internet). So it would be a minor miracle if anyone recognized one of these girls.

My primary purpose is to show Mr. Ego-Elvis that yes! Some of us can pull very pretty girls that aren't 5's or 6's. So BTW show us some pictures of your "10" or are you too ashamed? Maybe she isn't anything worth looking at.I love in the last foto how she has that slight "dent" in middle of the crack of her ass, sure tail (pun intended) sign will take a trip down the Hershey Highway, jeje.

Elvis 2008
05-01-22, 10:52
You are behind the Eight-Ball the second you start believing in a ranking system..The ranking system has to do with demand, supply, and price. You would be a fool if you did not consider that.


The obvious pitfall for using numbers to rank a girl's beauty is I have literally seen one guy call a girl and 9 and another guy the same girl a 3. That won't change anyone's mind here.The goal is not to ascertain your demand but the demand of others.


The instant a person begins to rely on what other people believe is attractive for themselves, by definition they are practicing ego gratification. That in and of itself is not a bad thing but it is unnecessary and off-track. Psychologically, the root of this is self-insecurity and low self-esteem, often but not always compensated with over-confidence and braggadocio. There is no other explanation that covers all the situations.Uh, no. If you treat a 9 like a 3, you will never get a 9.


If I had to apply a ranking system, (gun to my head) I would say all my girls are nines to me, and it is irrelevant what another monger thinks. Looks might grab my attention initially, but then I immediately start factoring in all the other things that make a girl a pleasure to be around. Personality can be the attraction without a primary consideration of appearance. Basically, the girls who I end up with look the way they look, another guys 9 or a 3, I don't care.The girl with the rash on his ass is a high demand 9? LOL. You are delusional. Some of your women are attractive but all 9's? Uh no.

I don't care. If you are happy, then that is cool. The problem I have with you guys is how badly you are bullshitting yourselves. I am not a car guy. I want something that gets from A to be, that I am comfortable in, does not look hideous and could care less about having a high end car. I am just as happy with a Toyota Corolla as a Porsche.

But if someone saves, works hard, cares about cars and goes out and gets a Porsche, I would say good for him and be happy for him But if I say to him, you know my Toyota is in as high a demand as your Porsche, and I like to think of my Toyota as my Porsche then I am a POS loser because I am not respecting what the other guy did.

And that is the problem with you losers and your excuses for not getting more in demand women. You have to invest a lot of blood, sweat, tears, time, and money getting a 10, and you are rationalizing not getting one instead of putting in the work.

And the whole concept that you do not care what other mongers think is egotistical beyond belief. Women are almost always looking for better offers, and the in demand women get a staggering number of them. If you are not making an in demand woman happy, then she is going to take one of those offers. Of course, seeing you have all these 9's (cough, cough), I would think you would know that.

The Cane
05-01-22, 11:00
I had to do some serious work to pull these pictures. I had to make sure no tattoos or faces or distinguishing marks were showing. I picked girls that I've met, talked to and arranged a pleasureable visit. (See how useful it is to be able to speak Spanish above a beginner's level) None of these girls are from FaceBook or Tinder (because someone will think they recognize them and will be quick to tell them their pics are on the internet). So it would be a minor miracle if anyone recognized one of these girls.

My primary purpose is to show Mr. Ego-Elvis that yes! Some of us can pull very pretty girls that aren't 5's or 6's. So BTW show us some pictures of your "10" or are you too ashamed? Maybe she isn't anything worth looking at.Because as we all know, these blow hards who claim your 9's and 10's are their 5's and 6's almost never post any pictures of their own. Either post up or shut up! By the way, in my view, in order to give a solid rating one must be able to see the face. For me, the face is an essential part of a female's beauty that needs to be taken into account in her overall beauty ranking. So in my system, the girl in your pics could still fall before my minimum acceptable score of a 7 if I don't like her face. I understand that tutes often times don't want to show their faces in pics, but it is what it is. No face = insufficient evidence to assign a full beauty score.

MarquisdeSade1
05-01-22, 16:04
And what would she be getting in Botero Plaza? Probably the same 30 or 40K that everyone else gets around there.Elvis has a black puta (he has written he really likes blk putas and I believe he also wrote he voted for Barry Hussein), I know not all mongers like blk putas so maybe that's why he's not posting a foto?

Lest he be accused of "sweet lemons" then he can't repeatedly be typing he has a unicorn 10.

Hey crazy Elvis did you write recently you introduced your daughter (s) to your (possibly) blk 3rd world puta live in GF? LMAO.

Hey don't forget to renew your medical license soon ROTFLMMFAO!

So crazy E inquiring minds want to know.

What color is "your" 10 puta white black brown green?

Last thing, I must know how in the world you snuck a laptop into the psych ward? LOL.

RamDavidson84
05-01-22, 16:19
No need to defend this Ram, you paid the going rate. I was kind of wondering what the fuck was going on with the pandemic. I was scoring great women in Mexico and Colombia but prices in the USA doubled.

I was usually able to pull an 8 or 9 type out of a strip club for $300. The pandemic hit and girls were asking for a $1000 an hour. LOL. They would go down but it made no sense to me until I saw this:

https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1520243705801674752

This is the money going into the hands of hos. I even talked to a dancer who got a $30,000 low interest loan and bragged about how easy it is. I bet it will be forgiven. Biden is trying to pay everyone off by forgiving all kinds of loans.

Thing is that there was this belief that printing money would not cause inflation. Well, you do enough of it and it happens. Inflation does not seem like it has hit Medellin like Cartagena but it will.

I have been loading up on triple inverse ETFS and am going to cash in. Seeing hos is like the ultimate luxury item, and it is a good time to go short when prices with them is out of control like it is now.I wasn't defending my post, I am just sharing real world information I experienced. I could care less who cares what about what I did. My posts are for all to read and get a little info from. There are probably a lot of dudes in the same boat as my boy where they can't run off to another country, but they still want to enjoy the same party lifestyle in the USA for a night. Those are the prices I paid for a night of fun. If you can find it cheaper, then fuck it! LOL. That was a line from the film "From Dusk Till Dawn" for anyone who didn't pick up on that. That movie should be on every monger's must watch list. I also just watched a good film about Buenos Aires, called "Assassination Tango", wasn't bad and I would also recommend it.

Let's all not use a rating system anymore because the forum psychiatrist enlightened us in his last therapy session and proclaimed to us they are no longer useful and we need to get more in touch with our inner monger spirits LOL. Let's also not compare prices either, let's just pay what ever they charge. Let's not look into the best deals on hotels or flights and just book the first one available. Let's not try to compare our experiences at all and just wing everything- oh yea that would be fucking stupid and defeat the entire purpose of the fucking board.

Having a rating system is just an easy way to exchange information on how much hookers are charging and what they are going to look like. There is a big difference in price from a streetwalker who is a "5" vs a solid chick out of Gusto who is a "8". I am not flying to another country for a 15 minute fuck with a "5". With the number ratings I don't have to go to extreme lengths and describe the various attributes that place these girls into a specific category. It's makes things nice and simple and gives us all a general idea of what's going on. Yes, it's not perfect, everyone rates girls different, and photos are better. However, it's still quite useful and will be continued to be used on this forum and among men for the rest of time due to its simplicity and effectiveness.

If you want to write 6 paragraphs to describe every hooker you fuck, then be my guest, I personally think that's a waste of time for most people- both the reader and writer.

RamDavidson84
05-01-22, 16:21
I had to do some serious work to pull these pictures. I had to make sure no tattoos or faces or distinguishing marks were showing. I picked girls that I've met, talked to and arranged a pleasureable visit. (See how useful it is to be able to speak Spanish above a beginner's level) None of these girls are from FaceBook or Tinder (because someone will think they recognize them and will be quick to tell them their pics are on the internet). So it would be a minor miracle if anyone recognized one of these girls.

My primary purpose is to show Mr. Ego-Elvis that yes! Some of us can pull very pretty girls that aren't 5's or 6's. So BTW show us some pictures of your "10" or are you too ashamed? Maybe she isn't anything worth looking at.6's and 7's on my scale, the one with a fat ass looks like an 8 from the back. Maybe the skinny one is a 5.

Nounce
05-01-22, 20:11
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All I wanted people to say was that was interesting and I will keep it in mind.
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Now do you get it?
I think you explain a lot of things. I can get those.

When you say sex is better, what do you mean by that? Longer orgasm, or more? There are people only go to casas, then there are people that do overnight date. The later can say overnight date is better. Are you taking that one step further, saying commitment is better than overnight?

Do you think you have better sex than Slapshot's as he also have a live in girlfriend?

Nounce
05-01-22, 20:17
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I have two simple criteria needed to hold my attention and especially for friends. ...I have some catching up to do, haha. I think we learn more from people with different opinion and like you said, more interesting. This place would be bored if we all agree to each other.

Nounce
05-01-22, 20:21
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My primary purpose is to show Mr. Ego-Elvis that yes! Some of us can pull very pretty girls that aren't 5's or 6's. So BTW show us some pictures of your "10" or are you too ashamed? Maybe she isn't anything worth looking at.What you say can apply to others but probably not Elvis. He has posted pictures a few times. You just need to look up his old posts. I don't image he would post his current 10.

MarquisdeSade1
05-01-22, 20:36
Because as we all know, these blow hards who claim your 9's and 10's are their 5's and 6's almost never post any pictures of their own. Either post up or shut up! By the way, in my view, in order to give a solid rating one must be able to see the face. For me, the face is an essential part of a female's beauty that needs to be taken into account in her overall beauty ranking. So in my system, the girl in your pics could still fall before my minimum acceptable score of a 7 if I don't like her face. I understand that tutes often times don't want to show their faces in pics, but it is what it is. No face = insufficient evidence to assign a full beauty score.A foto on a hooker forum w / o a face is more likely a "1" than a "10" LOL.

Just like escort sites, a less than stellar puta usually has the face blurred so what's to complain about when that "3" shows up LOL.

The face is the most critical part of the foto, she doesn't have to be a beauty queen but the face tells me a lot, besides just if I'm sexually attracted to her or not, IE.

Her mileage.

Her age.

Her demeanor.

Etc etc etc.

Posting a foto has no value, next time how about a foto of a bridge or a bus? Same value XERO.

DramaFree11
05-01-22, 20:40
What you say can apply to others but probably not Elvis. He has posted pictures a few times. You just need to look up his old posts. I don't image he would post his current 10.This is the funny part. You guys keep busting on Elvis and he keep winning, his girlfriend is very hot. I have me Elvis, very nice guy in person. Maybe you guys could learn a few thing from him. He obviously knows what he is doing and understand Colombia. If I was guys I would try and learn from him, not flight with him. Elvis and I disagreed on a few things, but we both learned something from our meeting.

Now, Elvis could maybe cut down on the name calling, but honestly most of you deserve it. Also, being fair and giving some good feedback. Sometimes your math numbers are a little off and maybe you could do a little better job explaining how much you really pay. We all pay, as I have said many times, but guys will find something negative no matter what you say. I can careless how much someone gives a girl. As you said, I honestly feel guilty how little I actually give these girls. Many are friends and make my life so much better with our meetings, text and phone calls.

RamDavidson84
05-01-22, 20:44
The ranking system has to do with demand, supply, and price. You would be a fool if you did not consider that.

The goal is not to ascertain your demand but the demand of others.

Uh, no. If you treat a 9 like a 3, you will never get a 9.

The girl with the rash on his ass is a high demand 9? LOL. You are delusional. Some of your women are attractive but all 9's? Uh no.

I don't care. If you are happy, then that is cool. The problem I have with you guys is how badly you are bullshitting yourselves. I am not a car guy. I want something that gets from A to be, that I am comfortable in, does not look hideous and could care less about having a high end car. I am just as happy with a Toyota Corolla as a Porsche.

But if someone saves, works hard, cares about cars and goes out and gets a Porsche, I would say good for him and be happy for him But if I say to him, you know my Toyota is in as high a demand as your Porsche, and I like to think of my Toyota as my Porsche then I am a POS loser because I am not respecting what the other guy did.

And that is the problem with you losers and your excuses for not getting more in demand women. You have to invest a lot of blood, sweat, tears, time, and money getting a 10, and you are rationalizing not getting one instead of putting in the work.

And the whole concept that you do not care what other mongers think is egotistical beyond belief. Women are almost always looking for better offers, and the in demand women get a staggering number of them. If you are not making an in demand woman happy, then she is going to take one of those offers. Of course, seeing you have all these 9's (cough, cough), I would think you would know that.Agreed, Corolla is not a Porsche, and I have respect for successful individuals who set and achieve goals. Failure hurts and when those goals go up in smoke, it sucks, so I'll always have respect for a winner. That's why people watch sports, it agonizing to be the loser and its awesome to be the winner!

The sexy "8" a guy fucked out of Parque Lleras is not a University educated, Professionally employed, non-pro, dime-piece who is with him for reasons other than money, money is only one factor among many. I have respect for that, if that is what a guy is after. I am not referring to just Elvis here, but any dude in general who is seeking that and attains it, especially at an advanced age where he is 15-20 years older than the woman, I have respect for that and in the real world, so would most guys.

While on the subject, my biggest complaint about mongering for me is its too easy and you get instant satisfaction too quickly. Playing the long game with a quality non-pro that starts off on seeking or Cupid is in the future for me. If I even suspect the girl is a seasoned pro or worked at a strip club, or something along those lines, I would probably move on to the next as from my own personal experiences those girls are too hardened and the experience I am looking for isn't going to meet my needs. Yes, I understand that eliminates the vast majority of the girls on those platforms LOL. I am also still not going to give up the occasional romp at the strip club either LOL, but I do have more of a desire for quality over quantity at the moment.

And obviously, if a dude wants to ride off into the sunset and fuck a different chick every night of the week until his dick falls off or he has a stroke, god bless that dude too.

Villainy
05-01-22, 21:25
6's and 7's on my scale, the one with a fat ass looks like an 8 from the back. Maybe the skinny one is a 5.No one could make Osteo's point any better than you just did. We are all different and our tastes are subjectively different too. I'm an older guy that likes flacas with gorgeous faces.

All of those girls made the grade. The one with the ass was a rare exception (for me) but she has stunning good looks, larger natural breasts and not a single tattoo and no kids. All the rest are flacas with very beautiful faces. That is how I roll.

Perhaps, like a fellow extranjero friend, you prefer the women with more curves and larger breasts. If so, the girls in my collection would fall a point or two. If you like the hard-body athletic types, my collection would go up on some and down on others.

All of which confirms the accuracy of Osteo's post. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My 8's and 9's are your 6's and 7's (of course it isn't exactly a fair comparison because due to promises I made, I can't show their faces and front side).

Villainy
05-01-22, 21:28
What you say can apply to others but probably not Elvis. He has posted pictures a few times. You just need to look up his old posts. I don't image he would post his current 10.That was the point. He says everyone criticizes him and claims their 5's and 6's are equal to his Miss Universe. Well, I say "put up or shut up". The girl's fotos he posted in the past are inconsequential.

"Show us your Miss Universe. I just showed a handful of my semi-pros, prove to me yours is better. If you can."

Mr Enternational
05-01-22, 21:29
No need to defend this Ram, you paid the going rate.So why did the chicks initially ask for $2000 if this "going rate" is $1250? It seems you are the only party that was aware of this going rate since there was haggling back and forth. It would have saved time and trouble had you just phoned to notify everyone involved that $1250 is the going rate and there is no need to ask for more or give less.

Mr Enternational
05-01-22, 21:37
I can show you countless women on line and their prices. Tell me the ones who are charging nothingLOL. Normal women do not exist? There are only hookers in this world? So now you admit your girl is P4P.

JjBee62
05-01-22, 21:41
LOL. So now normal women do not exist. There are only hookers in this world.Does this mean women didn't exist before they were able to post pictures online?

Mr Enternational
05-01-22, 21:46
What you say can apply to others but probably not Elvis. He has posted pictures a few times. You just need to look up his old posts. I don't image he would post his current 10.Not after the ridicule he received about the chick that was supposedly an actual beauty queen. People were saying it must have been one of those special olympics beauty contests. To me they just looked liked normal everyday women you would see walking down any Colombian street. His picture posting days ended as soon as they started.

Nounce
05-01-22, 22:05
Not after the ridicule he received about the chick that was supposedly an actual beauty queen. People were saying it must have been one of those special olympics beauty contests. To me they just looked liked normal everyday women you would see walking down any Colombian street. His picture posting days ended as soon as they started.That's called YMMV. I don't find them attractive either but that indicates his taste.

Like in Sao Paulo discussion, many people are impressed by Scandallo's 9s and 10s and I don't. Since I have been there several time and it provides the context for me so I don't need to disagree with their taste.

When those posters post a 9 or 10, I can agree with them based on their taste, not mine. I am in no position to criticize anyone who post actual pictures taken by themselves since I don't do that.

JjBee62
05-01-22, 22:39
That's called YMMV. I don't find them attractive either but that indicates his taste.

Like in Sao Paulo discussion, many people are impressed by Scandallo and I don't. Since I have been there several time and it provides the context for me so I don't need to disagree with them or belittle their taste. When those posters post a 9 or 10, I can agree with them based on their taste, not mine. I am in no position to criticize anyone who post actual pictures taken by themselves since I don't do that.It depends on what the person says about the posted picture. If I post a picture and say I think the girl is beautiful, people will agree or disagree based on their opinion.

However, if I post a picture and then say something which contradicts the picture, there is a problem.

In the example of the beauty pageant girl, if I remember correctly, it was stated she was one of the top finishers in the Miss Colombia competition. However the picture showed a girl at what looked like a small, local beauty contest, which are frequently put on at bars or local festivals. Instead of being ranked as one of the most beautiful women in Colombia, she appeared to just be the typical girl you'll find at any of those contests.

Another picture of his showed 2 women on a beach talking. It was taken from a distance and the women had their back to the camera. First problem, anyone can take a picture like that. It's not a picture where the women know their picture is being taken. I had lunch at Viva mall today and could have taken 100 pictures of women. If I posted one and claimed to be dating the woman, I would expect people to not believe me.

The other problem was he claimed one of the girls had 0% body fat, which was obviously not true. It was as obvious of a lie as if I posted a picture of a woman with no legs and said she had beautiful feet.

ClamSlammer
05-01-22, 23:56
I've read more than one report claiming that Uber is illegal in Colombia. Seriously, how fucking stupid do you have to be to believe that a multi-million dollar multinational corporation would operate illegally in any country? You got to be dumb as shit. If Uber was illegal in Colombia, the government would block all access to Uber, just like the Chinese government blocks whatever Western sites they don't agree with. Secondly, Uber's board of directors would be issued arrest warrants with Interpol, and would be extradited to Colombia to stand trial by any country with an extradition treaty with Colombia. Thirdly, no Colombian bank could to business with Uber. When you open a business in a foreign country, the first thing you do is open a local bank account. How the fuck does Uber process credit card payments in Colombia if they are illegal? And how the fuck would Uber pay corporate taxes in Colombia if they are operating illegally without a license? It's called tax evasion and the charges can be felonies punishable by decades in a Colombian prison if they are anything like USA Laws. You think the millionaire Uber executives in San Francisco gave the green light to operate illegally in Colombia when it's obvious they risk serious time in Colombian prison?

The real truth about Uber in Colombia? A few years ago, they were sued by a taxi collective. The judge found in favor of the taxi collective, that Uber was operating with unfair advantages, and ordered Uber to cease operations in Colombia. Uber immediately complied because their execs didn't want to go to prison. Uber then found a loophole. Uber resumed operations a month later claiming that they are not a rideshare company, but instead a car rental company, and that the car just happened to included a driver. And since then they are operating as a car rental company, 100% legally.

All those who are writing "sit in front seat because Uber is illegal" please wake the fuck up and try to process logic with your single digit IQ brain of yours and it will be clear that there is no way in hell Uber can operate illegally in any country.

Paulie97
05-02-22, 00:35
What you say can apply to others but probably not Elvis. He has posted pictures a few times. You just need to look up his old posts. I don't image he would post his current 10.By the same token the Marquis de Twat posted Medellin vacation pics, though it turned out they were 9 years old and ripped from a gringa blog, so the existence of "pics" often doesn't prove anything. And since Elvira posted pics of his other "10's," then why not this one? I don't follow you there.

Elvis 2008
05-02-22, 01:13
Not after the ridicule he received about the chick that was supposedly an actual beauty queen. People were saying it must have been one of those special olympics beauty contests. To me they just looked liked normal everyday women you would see walking down any Colombian street. His picture posting days ended as soon as they started.LOL. I love how you guys proclaim stuff to be true. I show a pic of her at a contest. You all proclaim it is fake and think you have won. She was the total package when I met her, but her personality was rough around the edges, and that is why I never repeated with her.

So many guys on this site wanted to date her after I mentioned her she changed her handle on the site to Theycallmequeen.

I am just amazed at how much stuff you "know". You "know" my gal is a ho. You "know" my gal is ripping me off, you "know" my gal has no work skills, and you "know" there are all these hot women who will fuck you for free in the USA (I am sure there are some pigs that would be up for it if you want that) and you "know" that girl is not a beauty queen.

The reality is you do not know any of that, and that is why you are a bullshit artist.

And I can do it too. I "know" you fuck women for free by stringing them along with a green card and marriage and lie about fucking hos when you are with them. I "know" that the women you are fucking I would not do if you paid me.

Honestly, I was going to post a bunch of women who were like SI swimsuit models types and watch you losers tear into them but why bother? I already "know" which of you guys are full of shit.

Elvis 2008
05-02-22, 01:28
6's and 7's on my scale, the one with a fat ass looks like an 8 from the back. Maybe the skinny one is a 5.Yeah, I do not know what to make of any of that. Any guy can pull women who look like that from centro in Medellin or Santa Fe in Bogota. Villainy's railing against something trying to make me look badly, which is like half of his posts, and I am like WTF are you talking about?

Elvis 2008
05-02-22, 02:21
I think you explain a lot of things. I can get those.

When you say sex is better, what do you mean by that? Longer orgasm, or more?

Do you think you have better sex than Slapshot's as he also have a live in girlfriend?Nounce, you have done SBs and WGs. A ho can be a better fuck than a SB, but when you find a good SB and get comfortable, it is like better than what 99% of the hos. Women are emotional creatures, hell we all are, and money is a minimum motivator. What I means is what do the hos say with CIM? "Well if I am going to do that, I want $50 or whatever."

A lot of guys like to say SBs are hos but that misses the point. There is affection there. The best SBs were not just about the money. They liked the guy and wanted to please him.

Think about what motivates you to perform. How much does money help with that? Then there is loyalty, friendship, guilt, vengeance, embarrassment, and best of all, love. In its purest form, if you love your partner, you will do anything to please them, and it is not for money but just because you want them to be happy.

I asked myself why I saw women and spend the money I do, and it is to feel better. With this girl, it is off the chain. She does all she can to make me feel better. She calls me every night, texts me every day, and would literally do anything for me. These idiots calling her a ho are so jaded I wonder if they know what a real relationship is. I have offered money so many times, and she has turned me down. Her two requests are to spend more time with me and have more sex. I have noticed when women are really in love they cannot get enough sex.

I like Surfer, and I am not sure where his relationship is. For me, the honeymoon phase of sex and love ebbs after 3 months. Then the sex gets routine. We are going on a year and it is gotten better and better. So Surfer could be at a later phase where the sex is not as good or at the same phase as where I am. All I know is I want this to last as long as it can.

If I see another woman or do not make spending time with her a priority, then this phase will end and obviously I do not want that.

To me, the ultimate is if you can get a 10 in looks, a 10 in bed and a girl who really cares about you. That is when you are going to have the best sex.

And getting a 10 is a different game. I have posted a photo of Gaby before, and she is an international model. She was wearing that red top and black skirt when we met, and IMO she was a 9-10 type. She took my breath away. She asked for $500 on our first meet, and I balked at paying it. I later met her and did pay it. Thing is that put in a measure of doubt. When you have a 10, you strike hard, and let them pull back money wise. You have to show yourself that you are all in with her because she has so many other offers. Girls like this do not stay on the market long.

I saw her later, and she was a good lover and a really good person. She asked if I was seeing someone else, and I lied and said no, and she found a hair in the bathroom from another girl. LOL. We were done after that.

The other girl was a 9-10 type too, but I handled her right. I was generous with her, and I did not mention money but gave her a fair amount and took her on some shopping trips. Unfortunately, she was mentally ill with borderline, and I had to break if off with her before things got too crazy, but it was a fun ride.

Thing with Gaby is once she let her guard down she really did not want that much. I think she could have been happy with a $1000 a month, and she would have been a short jaunt to Mexico City. Of course, now her IG page shows her with a guy who takes her all over Mexico and they stay at nice places. She is in love now and I am happy with how things worked out.

But this is what I mean by learning the game. At the time, I was bummed out, but I learned from it. You have to go through these hard knocks to learn.

Not setting a price is crazy advice for an above average looking girl as is the notion of it being a privilege to pay for her. With Gaby though? Shit, a $1000 a month to fuck a great girl who is skilled in bed and could be on the cover of Maxim's? Fuck yeah that is a privilege.

Nounce
05-02-22, 05:41
...And since Elvira posted pics of his other "10's," then why not this one? I don't follow you there.Maybe he will if he does not end up marrying her. To me, I have seen enough to have some idea of his taste and that is enough unless he posts new pictures that make me adjust my view.

Mr Enternational
05-02-22, 05:44
Women are almost always looking for better offers, and the in demand women get a staggering number of them.In that case will I not only see the $500 rent you are paying your girl, but I will raise it and pay $100 utilities as well. Then when she finishes with you, I will finish with her.

At least you see your chick often. Most of the guys that support these chicks are not able to see them as often, then one day wake up and realize they are throwing money away and stop the payments. I guess you are getting what you are paying for. And fair exchange is no robbery.

Nounce
05-02-22, 05:53
...
In the example of the beauty pageant girl, if I remember correctly, it was stated she was one of the top finishers in the Miss Colombia competition. However the picture showed a girl at what looked like a small, local beauty contest, which are frequently put on at bars or local festivals. ...I usually take it as a grain of salt. At least it is still a pageant, right? Members use words like model a lot and I just treat them like similar situation and it means they think the girl is hot.

Mr Enternational
05-02-22, 05:56
So many guys on this site wanted to date her after I mentioned her she changed her handle on the site to Theycallmequeen.Dude you can post a picture of a literal mop head here and many guys would want to date it. That is not saying much. You know how many mfs ask for contact info for chicks they have never seen based only on someone's written report? If she is fucking, then they want the phone number.

Mr Enternational
05-02-22, 06:03
Nounce, you have done SBs and WGs. A ho can be a better fuck than a SB, but when you find a good SB and get comfortable, it is like better than what 99% of the hos.So once again it would stand to reason that if one found a good woman that is neither ho nor sugar baby and get comfortable then it would be 198% better than the hoes and 99% better than the sugar baby. So why stop with the sugar baby? Or is my rationale off and the non-paid woman is even under the ho? Not understanding why you refuse to include them in these scenarios of the best sex.

Mr Enternational
05-02-22, 06:11
I asked myself why I saw women and spend the money I do, and it is to feel better. With this girl, it is off the chain. She does all she can to make me feel better. She calls me every night, texts me every day, and would literally do anything for me. I totally get it now. You are not used to getting attention from chicks and she strokes your ego. You know how many chicks that I don't have to pay try to call me every night (I never answer) and send me messages every morning asking how I slept. I wish they would fucking stop, but I guess it makes the next guy feel $500 worth of special.

Mr Enternational
05-02-22, 06:28
I usually take it as a grain of salt. At least it is still a pageant, right? Members use words like model a lot and I just treat them like similar situation and it means they think the girl is hot.Somebody in a facebook group asked something about instagram models. So I asked what exactly is an instagram model. And some lady answered saying someone that takes a bunch of pictures and puts them online. And that is all I have ever known them to be. A broad with a camera and no qualifications.

I don't get guys groveling all over chicks just because they are pretty and took a picture on a boat. Nothing about that makes me want to give a chick $500. Maybe if there was a picture of her building a boat, I would be impressed. I do not care how pretty a chick is, if she is as dumb as a post then fuck this shit I am out. I need smart and resourceful with my pretty. Some guys don't mind having a chick that was the first one picked for the ho stroll but the last one picked for the class roll.

RamDavidson84
05-02-22, 11:32
No one could make Osteo's point any better than you just did. We are all different and our tastes are subjectively different too. I'm an older guy that likes flacas with gorgeous faces.

All of those girls made the grade. The one with the ass was a rare exception (for me) but she has stunning good looks, larger natural breasts and not a single tattoo and no kids. All the rest are flacas with very beautiful faces. That is how I roll.

Perhaps, like a fellow extranjero friend, you prefer the women with more curves and larger breasts. If so, the girls in my collection would fall a point or two. If you like the hard-body athletic types, my collection would go up on some and down on others.

All of which confirms the accuracy of Osteo's post. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My 8's and 9's are your 6's and 7's (of course it isn't exactly a fair comparison because due to promises I made, I can't show their faces and front side).Correct me if I am wrong, I am too lazy to go back and re-read his post, but wasn't he arguing to not even use a rating system because that indicates we have low self esteem or some weird shit? I didn't read it too closely. And didn't you just use a rating system? You referred to your girls as 8's and 9's? I referred to them in a range from 5's to 8's, I do prefer the thicker girls. Maybe they are 8's and 9's, I can't see the face or gage personality and performance. I also stated rating system isn't perfect, its just a quick way to gage a general idea of a girl. I would love to have a fun night with anyone one of those those girls, except the skinny sickly looking one sitting down. We all agree beauty is in the eye of the beholder to a degree. I clearly stated that in my original post. I was just arguing, to not eliminate a useful tool such as the rating system of 1-10 for reasons of simplicity, efficiency, and effectiveness. Not everyone wants to write or read a 3 page essay description of a single puta he fucked. Sometimes, a special detailed report is quite useful and entertaining to read, especially if it's from a new poster who shares new information about a certain location or source where he found a chica. Those detailed reports are useful as well.

Here is an analogy for you in the spirit of the Great JBJJB69 LOL: There are many tools in the arsenal of a carpenter, don't throw out your hammers just because you purchased a nail-gun which has a higher rate of fire, there are still times you need that hammer for certain situations, and vice-versa, you sure as hell ain't framing a house with just a hammer. Don't eliminate a tool from the toolbox, just apply its' use for the correct scenario where it will be most effective.

Now on his rant on self esteem and the weird stuff, LOL seems like he was on some good drugs when he went into that part which was pretty funny to read, but it also doesn't allow me to take his posts very seriously or him serious as a person. I will admit, sometimes his heart is in the right place trying to help spread info for other mongers to better their experiences. Other times, like when he private messages me to never post again and no likes me, it's just hysterical and weird hahaha.

Zeos1
05-02-22, 11:34
I've read more than one report claiming that Uber is illegal in Colombia. Seriously, how fucking stupid do you have to be to believe that a multi-million dollar multinational corporation would operate illegally in any country? You got to be dumb as shit. If Uber was illegal in Colombia, the government would block all access to Uber, just like the Chinese government blocks whatever Western sites they don't agree with. Secondly, Uber's board of directors would be issued arrest warrants with Interpol, and would be extradited to Colombia to stand trial by any country with an extradition treaty with Colombia. Thirdly, no Colombian bank could to business with Uber. When you open a business in a foreign country, the first thing you do is open a local bank account. How the fuck does Uber process credit card payments in Colombia if they are illegal? And how the fuck would Uber pay corporate taxes in Colombia if they are operating illegally without a license? It's called tax evasion and the charges can be felonies punishable by decades in a Colombian prison if they are anything like USA Laws. You think the millionaire Uber executives in San Francisco gave the green light to operate illegally in Colombia when it's obvious they risk serious time in Colombian prison?

The real truth about Uber in Colombia? A few years ago, they were sued by a taxi collective. The judge found in favor of the taxi collective, that Uber was operating with unfair advantages, and ordered Uber to cease operations in Colombia. Uber immediately complied because their execs didn't want to go to prison. Uber then found a loophole. Uber resumed operations a month later claiming that they are not a rideshare company, but instead a car rental company, and that the car just happened to included a driver. And since then they are operating as a car rental company, 100% legally.

All those who are writing "sit in front seat because Uber is illegal" please wake the fuck up and try to process logic with your single digit IQ brain of yours and it will be clear that there is no way in hell Uber can operate illegally in any country.People had their cars impounded. I was told to sit in the front for this reason. That was in Medellin. I did what I was asked. Put that in your bird brain.

I do not know the legal history of why, what, or when. And at that point it did not matter. If that has changed, great.

And here is another bit of news. The word "illegal" applies to being in contravention of law, not just criminal law. Uber has operated illegally in many many places, and their executives are not likely to be in danger of international extradition.

MarquisdeSade1
05-02-22, 12:12
By the same token the Marquis de Twat posted Medellin vacation pics, though it turned out they were 9 years old and ripped from a gringa blog, so the existence of "pics" often doesn't prove anything. And since Elvira posted pics of his other "10's," then why not this one? I don't follow you there.I didn't rip shit, not everyone is a dishonest thief / grifter and ex con like your white trash cracker ass.

I googled images for gondolas for Parque Arvi to show the windows, the admin didn't even post all the fotos I uploaded.

So take your passive aggressive random pop shots and stick them up your Florida DOC stretched out culo LMAO.

Huacho
05-02-22, 13:28
You have to show yourself that you are all in with her because she has so many other offers. Simping 101.

Osteoknot
05-02-22, 14:33
Seriously, how fucking stupid do you have to be . . . You got to be dumb as shit.Your one and only post I have ever noticed from you and that gets you instantly on my Ignore List. You have that special combination of ignorance, insulting behavior, and misinformation that shows you really aren't worth a passing glance. Maybe you had a bad day and didn't eat your Wheaties that morning, but your pointless tirade was so long and obsessive that I am comfortable Ignoring you for the foreseeable future. Please feel free to return the favor and put me on your Ignore List. Geez. Lighten up. That's how people get cancer and brain tumors, walking around with your kind of negativity.

JjBee62
05-02-22, 14:44
I've read more than one report claiming that Uber is illegal in Colombia. Seriously, how fucking stupid do you have to be to believe that a multi-million dollar multinational corporation would operate illegally in any country? You got to be dumb as shit. If Uber was illegal in Colombia, the government would block all access to Uber, just like the Chinese government blocks whatever Western sites they don't agree with. Secondly, Uber's board of directors would be issued arrest warrants with Interpol, and would be extradited to Colombia to stand trial by any country with an extradition treaty with Colombia. Thirdly, no Colombian bank could to business with Uber. When you open a business in a foreign country, the first thing you do is open a local bank account. How the fuck does Uber process credit card payments in Colombia if they are illegal? And how the fuck would Uber pay corporate taxes in Colombia if they are operating illegally without a license? It's called tax evasion and the charges can be felonies punishable by decades in a Colombian prison if they are anything like USA Laws. You think the millionaire Uber executives in San Francisco gave the green light to operate illegally in Colombia when it's obvious they risk serious time in Colombian prison?.Companies operate illegally in other countries all the time, particularly with services which are new and not specifically legally banned. Airbnb is another example. There are specific requirements required in Colombia for that type of rental to be legal, but most hosts aren't in compliance. If the problem comes up is Colombia going to spend millions trying to bring a bunch of executives to stand trial, or will they just fine the host? Take all the time you need.

Uber in Medellin has always insisted I ride in front. Do I get in the more comfortable seat with more legroom, or do I scream a shitload of irrelevancies?

One time when a girl picked me up at the airport, the police stopped us and spent 15 minutes questioning her about being an Uber driver, before finally letting us go.

There were several videos online of taxi drivers throwing rocks at Uber cars and drivers, beating up Uber drivers and other things which, as a passenger, I don't want to be the target of. Now that I know, if such a thing happens, I can simply jump out, show your post to the assailants and they'll apologize.

Osteoknot
05-02-22, 15:48
My 8's and 9's are your 6's and 7's (of course it isn't exactly a fair comparison because due to promises I made, I can't show their faces and front side).Guys and mongerers will never stop doing it but it doesn't lessen the fact that it serves no purpose other than self perpetuation. I am not trying to change how anyone rolls but I am telling it like it is.

No one has been able to say it better than, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Numbers are used for a quick convenience that does not require much thinking, but then as soon as people start talking about "why" they assign a number, then there is very little agreement. Comical, really.

The best a random group of mongers might agree upon is that 1-3 not worth fucking; 4-6 possibly worth fucking depending on how drunk or desperate; and 7-9 generally attractive enough to fuck. Even then there are situations were nearly everyone will break their own rules. Drunk or drugged, desperately horny, no one will know if I fuck this chica, jeje.

I might be overlapping man-whoring with mongering, but a pro can fuck all numbers, doesn't mean they will, but they can. Amateurs put the most restrictions on themselves, not just numbers but all kinds of specific physical characteristics. Ass must be big or small. Same with boobs. Hair color, skin color, the list goes on and on, adding to the futility and pointlessness of trying to get mongers to agree on a beauty ranking.

I would never tell a fellow monger what it takes to get his groove on, but ask yourself who is happier? The guy with the wider tastes or the guy who is always hunting for something specific and more elusive? Who experiences more frustration?

He is happiest who is contented with the least.

BTW, you are completely correct to not show faces or identifying tattoos. Even if no promises were made, it is disrespectful and even potentially dangerous. But that is a topic for another time.

Elvis 2008
05-02-22, 16:20
Not after the ridicule he received about the chick that was supposedly an actual beauty queen. People were saying it must have been one of those special olympics beauty contests. To me they just looked liked normal everyday women you would see walking down any Colombian street. His picture posting days ended as soon as they started.
In the example of the beauty pageant girl, if I remember correctly, it was stated she was one of the top finishers in the Miss Colombia competition. However the picture showed a girl at what looked like a small, local beauty contest, which are frequently put on at bars or local festivals. Instead of being ranked as one of the most beautiful women in Colombia, she appeared to just be the typical girl you'll find at any of those contests.The one thing I can know for two with you bullshit artists is that neither of you will admit you are wrong about anything.

I did not even like this girl all that much, but she had the beauty and intelligence to be a beauty queen. She runs a charity and spit out facts about Cartagena as fast as lightning.

So why all the fuss about these photos? Because you two pussies cannot handle that I dated a beauty queen. LOL.

ClamSlammer
05-02-22, 17:23
People had their cars impounded. I was told to sit in the front for this reason. That was in Medellin. I did what I was asked. Put that in your bird brain.

I do not know the legal history of why, what, or when. And at that point it did not matter. If that has changed, great.

And here is another bit of news. The word "illegal" applies to being in contravention of law, not just criminal law. Uber has operated illegally in many many places, and their executives are not likely to be in danger of international extradition.This is the kinda shit I'm talking about. This is the difference between me and you: If an Uber driver picked me and and told me to sit in the front because Uber was knowingly operating illegally, I would do as he asked but would immediately dismiss the nonsense that he said and classify him as a dumbass. You, on the other hand, believe everything you're told, no matter how outlandish it may be, and pass on the obvious bullshit to others. Cars impounded? LOL! Bullshit stories being passed from one gullible dumbshit to another. No Uber driver has ever had their car impounded just for driving Uber in Colombia. Uber Corporation has never picked up a single rider in its entire history, anywhere in the world, while not properly licensed by local authorities. Sure, it has been determined by various courts around the world that Uber HAD been operating with illegal advantages prior to the legal ruling. But no fucking way has Uber ever continued to operate a single second without being fully licensed to do business in its respective jurisdiction. "Sit in front because Uber is operating underground illegally and unlicensed" LOL LOL LOL!

Mr Enternational
05-02-22, 18:35
So why all the fuss about these photos? Because you two pussies cannot handle that I dated a beauty queen. LOL.Dated or paid? Because there is talk in the Brazil thread now about guys going to Scandalo and taking home actual billboard models and TV personalities for pay. It is no great feat to pay a chick Elvis. Anybody with money can do it.

I have dated normal models and actresses as well, but I do not have the pageant pictures without me in them to show. Should I just pull a random one off the internet?

Villainy
05-02-22, 18:39
Correct me if I am wrong, I am too lazy to go back and re-read his post, but wasn't he arguing to not even use a rating system because that indicates we have low self esteem or some weird shit? I didn't read it too closely. And didn't you just use a rating system? You referred to your girls as 8's and 9's? I referred to them in a range from 5's to 8's, I do prefer the thicker girls. Maybe they are 8's and 9's, I can't see the face or gage personality and performance. I also stated rating system isn't perfect, its just a quick way to gage a general idea of a girl. I would love to have a fun night with anyone one of those those girls, except the skinny sickly looking one sitting down. We all agree beauty is in the eye of the beholder to a degree. I clearly stated that in my original post. I was just arguing, to not eliminate a useful tool such as the rating system of 1-10 for reasons of simplicity, efficiency, and effectiveness. Not everyone wants to write or read a 3 page essay description of a single puta he fucked. Sometimes, a special detailed report is quite useful and entertaining to read, especially if it's from a new poster who shares new information about a certain location or source where he found a chica. Those detailed reports are useful as well.

Here is an analogy for you in the spirit of the Great JBJJB69 LOL: There are many tools in the arsenal of a carpenter, don't throw out your hammers just because you purchased a nail-gun which has a higher rate of fire, there are still times you need that hammer for certain situations, and vice-versa, you sure as hell ain't framing a house with just a hammer..You should have read his post more closely. He makes some very good points. If you start with the premise that we all have different tastes (beauty is in the eye of the beholder) then what good does a rating system like a 1-10 scale have? It may quantify my feelings but unless we have the exact same tastes it won't quantify yours. That was his point. Further, people use that scale to brag. Like Elvis does. Jajajaja my ho is a 10 and you can't get anything as good as the girl I have. Classic insecurity.

Sure I used the scale numbers in response to Elvis' pompous boast and also in reference to your comments. You like girls that are more curvy as opposed to flacas. So what I call an 8 or a 9 (for my taste and predilections) are only 6's for you because of different tastes and predilections. That is exactly the point Osteo was making.

MarquisdeSade1
05-02-22, 19:40
Simping 101.To add injury to injury.

She's trying to promote that cuck mentality on a mongering forum.

3rd world puta cucking 101.

And also, "how to get 3rd world putas to get their puta offspring to call you padre" LMAO.

I'm telling ya straight out of the psych ward!

This crazy mofo better not actually have a medical license LMAO.

Nounce
05-02-22, 19:58
Think about what motivates you to perform. How much does money help with that? Then there is loyalty, friendship, guilt, vengeance, embarrassment, and best of all, love. In its purest form, if you love your partner, you will do anything to please them, and it is not for money but just because you want them to be happy....You don't think sex is a skill too? There is no guarantee that she can perform better than someone else more skillful just because of love. She may try the hardest but may still not be the best.

RamDavidson84
05-02-22, 21:06
Companies operate illegally in other countries all the time, particularly with services which are new and not specifically legally banned. Airbnb is another example. There are specific requirements required in Colombia for that type of rental to be legal, but most hosts aren't in compliance. If the problem comes up is Colombia going to spend millions trying to bring a bunch of executives to stand trial, or will they just fine the host? Take all the time you need.

Uber in Medellin has always insisted I ride in front. Do I get in the more comfortable seat with more legroom, or do I scream a shitload of irrelevancies?

One time when a girl picked me up at the airport, the police stopped us and spent 15 minutes questioning her about being an Uber driver, before finally letting us go..So is that why Uber driver's in Colombia insist you sit up front? I always thought it was for their safety? Like so you don't rob them from behind or something?

Elvis 2008
05-02-22, 21:17
You don't think sex is a skill too? There is no guarantee that she can perform better than someone else more skillful just because of love. She may try the hardest but may still not be the best.Sure, it is a skill, and to get the best, you have to start with one of the best. The question is how do you get them to perform at their best. Money alone is not going to motivate that much.

It was funny. I remember Larry Holmes in a boxing match, and he is like getting $40 million, and he is winning but not decidedly so. Then the other guy hit him in the crotch, and that is what motivated him, all that money to win and getting hit in the crotch is what motivated him. After the low blow, he destroyed the other guy.

RamDavidson84
05-02-22, 21:33
I didn't rip shit, not everyone is a dishonest thief / grifter and ex con like your white trash cracker ass.

I googled images for gondolas for Parque Arvi to show the windows, the admin didn't even post all the fotos I uploaded.

So take your passive aggressive random pop shots and stick them up your Florida DOC stretched out culo LMAO.Was it really necessary to bring and race and politics into this issue? When you use terms like "Cracker Ass" and "White Trash" it creates further division and more extremism. White people read this and it fuels the extreme right to engage in barbaric behavior, like the misinformed misguided Americans who stormed the capital on Jan. 6TH. This extremism is what's destroying the cultural fabric of America one thread at a time. It's also leading to economic policies which encourage inflation which are passed through legislation by political representatives who are not qualified to work effectively at the positions they occupy. Think AOC on the left, a fucking dimwit bartender before she became a Congresswoman and just as sad to see on the right, a 25 year old idiot like Madison Cawthorn. Sad to see. For future reference please try to keep your bias to yourself and not use racial slurs on an open forum.

JjBee62
05-02-22, 22:33
Simping 101.If some woman I'm even thinking about seeing for anything other than a paid fuck, has other offers that I have to beat, I'm telling her, take the other offer. Call me when it falls through and if I don't have any better offers I'll consider it.

JjBee62
05-02-22, 22:38
Dated or paid? Because there is talk in the Brazil thread now about guys going to Scandalo and taking home actual billboard models and TV personalities for pay. It is no great feat to pay a chick Elvis. Anybody with money can do it.

I have dated normal models and actresses as well, but I do not have the pageant pictures without me in them to show. Should I just pull a random one off the internet?I used to date a woman who won a tattoo contest sponsored by Bacardi at the Laughlin Run and she did it with a fake tattoo. I wish I'd have known that I had done something considered nearly impossible.

Mr Enternational
05-03-22, 01:00
This is the kinda shit I'm talking about. This is the difference between me and you: If an Uber driver picked me and and told me to sit in the front because Uber was knowingly operating illegally, I would do as he asked but would immediately dismiss the nonsense that he said and classify him as a dumbass. Come on man. Don't be a dummy just for the sake of being a dummy. Don't say it is not true because you FEEL it is not true. At least ask around or do a quick internet search first. What does anyone have to gain by saying Uber is illegal and have someone sit in the front seat?

"Uber found a loophole in the court's ruling that quickly helped them get back in the market. Renting cars is entirely legal, and Uber came up with a new business model that allowed users to rent a vehicle with a driver. The court decision was soon overturned, but Uber remains illegal. Its drivers ask passengers to take the front seat to avoid unwanted attention from the police, which could result in fines and / or having their vehicles confiscated. ".

https://consumerchoicecenter.org/colombias-uber-ban-is-protectionist-and-ignores-consumers/

Mr Enternational
05-03-22, 01:15
If some woman I'm even thinking about seeing for anything other than a paid fuck, has other offers that I have to beat, I'm telling her, take the other offer. Call me when it falls through and if I don't have any better offers I'll consider it.Exactly. I was just out with a woman in Bogota and told her about it. She said that dude really has low self esteem. She said there is a difference between caring for someone and maintaining someone. She wants to know what kind of job his chick was up for for that kind of money so she can see if it is still available.

We went to Exito after eating so I could buy water and stuff for the airbnb. She picked up a few things too. The cashier rang mine up and I said hers too. She said no way. We almost got into a fight in the line because she refused to let me pay for her things. She paid her own taxi back and forth as well. I love women that do not sit on their ass and expect men to maintain them.

RamDavidson84
05-03-22, 01:23
You should have read his post more closely. He makes some very good points. If you start with the premise that we all have different tastes (beauty is in the eye of the beholder) then what good does a rating system like a 1-10 scale have? It may quantify my feelings but unless we have the exact same tastes it won't quantify yours. That was his point. Further, people use that scale to brag. Like Elvis does. Jajajaja my ho is a 10 and you can't get anything as good as the girl I have. Classic insecurity.

Sure I used the scale numbers in response to Elvis' pompous boast and also in reference to your comments. You like girls that are more curvy as opposed to flacas. So what I call an 8 or a 9 (for my taste and predilections) are only 6's for you because of different tastes and predilections. That is exactly the point Osteo was making.Nah reading his posts once is enough for me LOL, sorry to come off like a jerk, but his posts sometimes make me cringe. Like when he posted on the forum how he got fucked in the ass with a dildo. I can't take the guy serious. That being said, I think both of you are thinking way too hard into a non-issue and if that statement makes me look insecure, LOL well I guess that is just the cross I will have to bare. Me, "and the rest of humanity" will continue to use the 1-10 rating system.

Osteoknot
05-03-22, 01:34
If some woman I'm even thinking about seeing for anything other than a paid fuck, has other offers that I have to beat, I'm telling her, take the other offer. Call me when it falls through and if I don't have any better offers I'll consider it.Unless I am reading that wrong. Are you counting on the idea that the competition in Colombia is generally weak? Or you just don't like to compete.

Elvis 2008
05-03-22, 02:35
If some woman I'm even thinking about seeing for anything other than a paid fuck, has other offers that I have to beat, I'm telling her, take the other offer. Call me when it falls through and if I don't have any better offers I'll consider it.Yeah, that makes sense. You and Huacho do see the kind of women who do not have many other takers.

Nounce
05-03-22, 02:36
Sure, it is a skill, and to get the best, you have to start with one of the best. The question is how do you get them to perform at their best. Money alone is not going to motivate that much...Do you mean the best in sex? Is it possible that the girl just loves to have sex, and everything else is just icing on the cake?

JustTK
05-03-22, 03:54
Do we have to continue with this ridiculous argument about how to get the best sex? Can't we go back to what this forum section is about?

COVID-19!!

Here is an analysis of the only RCTs that were performed on the COVID vaxes. And they show that the Pfizer and Moderna vaxes achieved FK all, apart from ruin the lives of billions of people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3koKVb8SEk

Villainy
05-03-22, 04:49
Nah reading his posts once is enough for me LOL, sorry to come off like a jerk, but his posts sometimes make me cringe. Like when he posted on the forum how he got fucked in the ass with a dildo. I can't take the guy serious. That being said, I think both of you are thinking way too hard into a non-issue and if that statement makes me look insecure, LOL well I guess that is just the cross I will have to bare. Me, "and the rest of humanity" will continue to use the 1-10 rating system.I think that is great that you are going to bare the cross. BTW what kind of clothes is the cross wearing? OH you meant you were going to bear it. No biggie, I guess that the topic of subjectivity was a little too advanced.

JjBee62
05-03-22, 05:35
This is the kinda shit I'm talking about. This is the difference between me and you: If an Uber driver picked me and and told me to sit in the front because Uber was knowingly operating illegally, I would do as he asked but would immediately dismiss the nonsense that he said and classify him as a dumbass. You, on the other hand, believe everything you're told, no matter how outlandish it may be, and pass on the obvious bullshit to others. Cars impounded? LOL! Bullshit stories being passed from one gullible dumbshit to another. No Uber driver has ever had their car impounded just for driving Uber in Colombia. Uber Corporation has never picked up a single rider in its entire history, anywhere in the world, while not properly licensed by local authorities. Sure, it has been determined by various courts around the world that Uber HAD been operating with illegal advantages prior to the legal ruling. But no fucking way has Uber ever continued to operate a single second without being fully licensed to do business in its respective jurisdiction. "Sit in front because Uber is operating underground illegally and unlicensed" LOL LOL LOL!I'm not sure which fantasy land you're living in, but it doesn't seem to have any connection to the real world. Here's what happens in the real world:

1. You pull put your phone and request an Uber. At some point the Uber shows up.

2. When you attempt to get in the back, the driver signals for you to sit in the front.

3. The driver does not start telling you that Uber is illegal in Colombia. Unless you ask why he wants you to sit in the front. The subject doesn't come up.

4. If you ask (and can understand Spanish) you will probably be told (as I was) that some of the taxi drivers cause trouble with Uber drivers.

Legal and illegal aren't things which are clearly defined and they are subject to change. When Uber began operating in Colombia, it was legal, from Uber's viewpoint, illegal from taxi driver's viewpoint and undefined by the Colombian legal system. I believe the Colombian courts have declared it legal, then illegal, then legal, then illegal, then legal. Each time the status changes, Uber legal goes to work and everything continues.

For a guy who never exaggerates and whose word is gold, you sure are full of shit. I'm going to take a wild guess that you have not talked to every Uber driver in Colombia and that you haven't a fucking clue whether or not any of them have ever had their car impounded.

JjBee62
05-03-22, 05:55
Unless I am reading that wrong. Are you counting on the idea that the competition in Colombia is generally weak? Or you just don't like to compete.I'm just not into playing games. Back when I was "Norm" at the local titty bar, a dancer who didn't know me tried that on me.

"One of my regulars just came in. He always tips me a lot. I need to go sit with him. Unless you want to take me to VIP."

I told her to go see her regular, I could manage without her.

The dancers who knew me would hang out with me, even though I wasn't spending much. If one of the big spenders came in they'd say something like "I got to go. My car payment just walked through the door."

I've got no problem with spending on a girl. But if a girl tells me I've got to spend more to keep her, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Which reminds me of a story a guy told me. He claimed to have worked many years driving a garbage truck in NYC, and that all the garbage companies were mob controlled. If a restaurant wanted them to match someone else's rates, they were told to get the other company to haul their trash.

Of course (according to the story) no other company was going against the mob, leaving the restaurant with nobody to haul away the trash. By the time they got back to the original garbage company. They had to pay a lot more than before.

Without the whole "sleeping with the fishes" thing, that's my approach to paid women. If they can get paid more by someone else, good luck.

JjBee62
05-03-22, 05:58
Do we have to continue with this ridiculous argument about how to get the best sex? Can't we go back to what this forum section is about?

COVID-19!!

Here is an analysis of the only RCTs that were performed on the COVID vaxes. And they show that the Pfizer and Moderna vaxes achieved FK all, apart from ruin the lives of billions of people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3koKVb8SEkNot until the Nobel Committee starts giving awards for YouTube videos.

MarquisdeSade1
05-03-22, 09:03
Nah reading his posts once is enough for me LOL, sorry to come off like a jerk, but his posts sometimes make me cringe. Like when he posted on the forum how he got fucked in the ass with a dildo. I can't take the guy serious. That being said, I think both of you are thinking way too hard into a non-issue and if that statement makes me look insecure, LOL well I guess that is just the cross I will have to bare. Me, "and the rest of humanity" will continue to use the 1-10 rating system.Well the 1-10 rating system is deeply flawed for many reasons.

Namely 2 terms.

Sour grapes and sweet lemons.

Some mongers will call their 2 a 10 and never post a foto to save their life. See sweet lemons.

And I could post a 10 that no one could ever disagree with but many would laugh and say she looks like a boy or some other dum shit. See sour grapes.

Many have very low self esteem and consequently even if you put a gun to their heads they wouldn't even waver from what I'm saying.

He got fucked in the ass with a dildo? And eating 3rd world puta anuses.

Wow and I thought JK is gay?

In closing the 1-10 system doesn't work because they won't concede to reality.

Elvis 2008
05-03-22, 16:46
Because there is talk in the Brazil thread now about guys going to Scandalo and taking home actual billboard models and TV personalities for pay. It is no great feat to pay a chick Elvis. Anybody with money can do it.What does that have to do with anything?


I have dated normal models and actresses as well, but I do not have the pageant pictures without me in them to show.Again so what?

You two assholes said the pictures were fake, and I proved they were not. It just shows you and JJBee are pure bullshit artists. You two assholes think you have it all going on and I just showed everyone you are full of shit.

If you think it is easy to bed a beauty queen, shut your mouth and go do it. Stop with the bullshitting about how easy it is.

Elvis 2008
05-03-22, 16:51
Unless I am reading that wrong. Are you counting on the idea that the competition in Colombia is generally weak? Or you just don't like to compete.Poor Osteo. I think you have me blocked. JJBee was caught lying and bullshitting again and then came up with this contorted post in response. He thinks he is so fucking great he does not need to compete which of course is just more bullshit.

RamDavidson84
05-03-22, 17:27
I think that is great that you are going to bare the cross. BTW what kind of clothes is the cross wearing? OH you meant you were going to bear it. No biggie, I guess that the topic of subjectivity was a little too advanced.Haha touche! I just can't win sometimes with you guys. The real funny part will be in a few weeks when you are all rating girls again on the 1-10 scale LOL. It's too convenient to ever let go for good.

MarquisdeSade1
05-03-22, 17:35
Unless I am reading that wrong. Are you counting on the idea that the competition in Colombia is generally weak? Or you just don't like to compete.Have you no self respect? Ooops strike that!

Who the fuck competes for 3rd world putas? Or any putas for that matter? Or any pussy?

I love my take it or leave it attitude and so do most putas except maybe the most hardened sharks.

Putas need to compete for me, and the pleasure of getting fucked by me and getting my jizz and maybe a couple cop!

Elvis 2008
05-03-22, 17:52
Do we have to continue with this ridiculous argument about how to get the best sex? Can't we go back to what this forum section is about?

COVID-19!!

Here is an analysis of the only RCTs that were performed on the COVID vaxes. And they show that the Pfizer and Moderna vaxes achieved FK all, apart from ruin the lives of billions of people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3koKVb8SEkLOL. JustTK, with the latest monochromatic media we have, Covid has been wiped from the headlines and now it is all Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. Of course, this is the latest marching orders where we have to spend billions or the world will end.

It is really hard to prove something prevents death and even harder when you realize how the pols dictate what is put on a death certificate. That is why death numbers so often are fake. The better metric was always whether the vaccines prevent hospitalization but even that got screwed up as people with Covid were treated the same as people who were hospitalized from Covid.

What is funny now is flying. I flew to Fort Lauderdale on an airplane maskless which was nice. Then we got to the airport. A sign said wearing masks is still required and it was ignored. Maybe one in 10 people had masks on. Then I boarded the flight to Colombia and then we had to put on the masks outside before going into the airport. Colombia has way fewer cases than the USA, so it made no sense but common sense was never a part of this whole pandemic.

The pandemic ends then not with a thud but a whimper except for all those "model" Asian countries that are now getting slammed. And just like JJBee imagined the girl I dated won a wet t-shirt contest at a dive bar versus a city wide beauty contest, all the idiotic Covid proclamations will be forgotten or altered in a more digestible format. If you are looking for an admission of being wrong from all those who fell for the Covid hoax, you can forget it.

Look at Huacho. Here is a guy who taught at universities and is completely brainless when it comes to common sense. I give him shit about cleaning counters (because the virus is not spread on surfaces) and his response was I have not done that since I got vaccinated. Does the vaccine prevent you from getting Covid? Nope, but you cannot tell him that. He is loyal to or rather enslaved by the government narrative. He's like a pathetic dog looking to have his head scratched by his government masters.

So how do you get rewarded not falling for the government bullshit? It is simple in that you bet against the chuckleheads who think all that went on did not matter by going short the market. Remember JJBee's dumb proclamation that jobs always return but lives never do, and you look at some data: low unemployment rate and stock market at an all time high and you can pat JJBee on the head for his profound wisdom. Of course, you go a little deeper and see the issues with inflation and rising interest rates and realize that all we did was buy time. The check for destroying all these businesses and putting people out of work has not been paid or rather it has with the dubious practice of printing money.

See Bill Maher's comments on the $6 trillion in programs passed by Congress: https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1520243705801674752?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet.

And that is not even counting how much the Fed printed money out of thin air and bought assets and expanded its balance sheet.

I am like Jim Rogers in the sense that I do not time markets but rather go pick up a pile of money. In this case, I have been buying SDOW, SQQQ, and SPXU which are triple shorts on the market. This is the equivalent of picking up money. That the headlines all say Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, is more of a sign things are going to hell. The government thinks if it talks war, maybe it will not be noticed our economy is headed off a cliff.

I have often seen the pussy market as a great indicator of how the world is. Pussy is the ultimate luxury item, not needed but wanted. My flight was super early in the morning so I went to a late night strip club. This was literally the first time I can ever recall having to wait outside due to the club being too full. There was not an empty seat in the club and the fools making it rain were at an all time high. The only time I can recall cash being tossed out like this was in 2000 right before the dot com crash.

So buy the ETFs I suggested. If I did not have to worry about getting the timing right, I would short the shit out of Moderna and maybe Pfizer.

You will see the same bunch of idiots who need to be tribal huddle around themselves and say that I do not what the fuck I am talking about. While the idiots stayed home fearing Covid, I went out and met the woman of my dreams, and the same will happen here. These fools never learn.

And when you do cash in, you should take Mr. E's advice. Go up to beauty queen with cash in hand and say, "I want to fuck you. How much?" and then let me know what happens. Bedding a beauty queen is easy according to him, and he has done hundreds of times.

Elvis 2008
05-03-22, 18:02
Do you mean the best in sex? Is it possible that the girl just loves to have sex, and everything else is just icing on the cake?Nounce, she can love sex, but she can hold back. When I went on the trip with these three women in Mexico, the Colombian girl would not kiss me. I thought it was strange as we had made out like teenagers before. She sucked and fucked me like crazy on that trip and was great at it, but she would not kiss me. That is actually a tell for me a girl has a BF when she will not kiss. This girl probably is a better lover even without kissing than most women are who give all of themselves.

So to have the best sex IMO, you get a woman who is very attractive who is a 10 in bed but who has no inhibitions, and I do not think you get there unless you commit to her. As good as the sex was I had with that girl, her BF was having better.

Mr Enternational
05-03-22, 18:28
You two assholes said the pictures were fake, and I proved they were not.Pictures fake? Nobody is saying that. People are saying the pictures have nothing to do with you. Post some pics that you took yourself, not some random shit anyone can get off the internet. For all anybody else knows you could have been online and the pics were sent to you by a catfish. You have not proved shit.

Elvis 2008
05-03-22, 19:11
Pictures fake? Nobody is saying that. People are saying the pictures have nothing to do with you. You have not proved shit.
Not after the ridicule he received about the chick that was supposedly an actual beauty queen. To me they just looked liked normal everyday women you would see walking down any Colombian street.If you are trying to bullshit people maybe you should wait more than a few days before contradicting yourself.

You are so fucking stupid you cannot see the difference between a beauty queen and an everyday woman. Why should anyone listen to you when it comes to the value of woman?

All you do is bang ugly women and try to say they are equivalent to the best women, and that is what bullshit losers do.

I said that about you previously, and your own words prove it to be true. Case closed.

Mr Enternational
05-03-22, 21:07
So to have the best sex IMO, you get a woman who is very attractive who is a 10 in bed but who has no inhibitionsSo she lets you fuck her ass and shit on her face?

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ZpHfk943T9I

Mr Enternational
05-03-22, 21:13
If you are trying to bullshit people maybe you should wait more than a few days before contradicting yourself.Where was this contradiction you are talking about? I said 2 different things but they were not in contradiction.


You are so fucking stupid you cannot see the difference between a beauty queen and an everyday woman.Who were the 10 people on the stage? Were there 10 everyday women who were contestants or 10 beauty queens? Anybody can enter into a pageant Elvis. That does not make them a beauty queen. I can enter into a chess match tomorrow. That will not make me a grand master.

Osteoknot
05-03-22, 21:13
If they can get paid more by someone else, good luck.Jaja at "I was Norm". That should have been my subject title here but when you put quotes in the title the auto-editor fucks it up.

Your stripper story makes sense. I would not want to be pressured into a snap decision to pay VIP rates unless I was already in the mood.

I generally agree with allowing a pair of X chromosomes to demonstrate some degree of the free will and choose to be with me instead of my having to bid for her affections. Obviously I pay fair market value, plus I don't mind paying a small premium for what I believe buys me improved perfomance.

Purrfekt Paisa (not to be confused with Purrfekt Piel) is a purrfekt example. She can get ten-times what I pay her for some of her high-priced escapades.

The first time I ever saw Purrfekt Paisa (PP) I paid her 70 mil COP because she came over uninvited as a tag-along with Scarlet, who is always looking to introduce me to new girls. I told her she would get nothing but then we had a 3-way where I did not penetrate her below the waist, so I ended up giving her 70 mil COP.

One look at Purrfekt Paisa and I knew it was simply a matter of time before she got snatched up by some high-roller. Now she routinely gets one-million just to show up. And for day and overnight trips, the sky's the limit. I'll post pics and maybe a few will appreciate her. She is one of the most phenomenal physical specimens I have ever seen if you like the tall, fashionista, model type. Her clamshell pussy is phenomenal, tight, smooth and she is always wet. Her face is every ethnic and uber-cute. My photography does not do her justice, she is long and lithe but with curves. The foto of her laying face down across the bed is the closest to how she really looks. I would give her an 8.66723. She catches me staring at her too often, jeje.

Now I pay her 150 plus taxi, if and when she is available and she never bats an eyelash. She is on the invite list for the upcoming 6-7 way at Scarlet's house. I guess we could simply say "orgy" at that point.

You could say I was "grandfathered" in at PP's introductory rate, but that is uncomfortably too accurate according to our ages, jeje. I always treated her with respect but at the same time no different from any other chica. I'm a big believe in treating all chicas the same, from the cheapest Ground Zero quickie to the "nines" of the world. I treat them with respect, honesty, humor, and even admiration without putting them on a pedestal.

The competition is very weak in Medellin, especially when you factor in the shiftless Colombian men on top the typical mongering tourists (of course, all the mongers here on this Website are stellar). Sorry if my comment about Colombian men is an offensive generalization, but my perception is that the women are the backbone of Colombia.

I guess I would say I pick my spots. I don't automatically default to not competing in every situation, but most times, yes. The other factor is these chicas invariably circle back around after they act like they are leaving me for good. I can't think of one example when a chica did not come back to me after saying the long goodbye and that she would never see me again. I have to admit, I assume it will happen because it is so common.

Ostee Out, Keep On Keepin' On. If the Cosmic Blueberry Muffin is willing I will have boots on the ground in nine days.

DramaFree11
05-03-22, 21:57
Where was this contradiction you are talking about? I said 2 different things but they were not in contradiction.

Who were the 10 people on the stage? Were there 10 everyday women who were contestants or 10 beauty queens? Anybody can enter into a pageant Elvis. That does not make them a beauty queen. I can enter into a chess match tomorrow. That will not make me a grand master.Mr. Emotion the time you spend writing these crazy posts, you could get a part time job and then you could afford a hot chick. Instead of being so jealous and complaining all the time. I am happy for Elvis.

, he could be a little more humble, but you guys are just so crazy. I see why he gets upset. Everyone pays, the hotter they are you usually pay more.

The Cane
05-03-22, 21:59
Who were the 10 people on the stage? Were there 10 everyday women who were contestants or 10 beauty queens? Anybody can enter into a pageant Elvis. That does not make them a beauty queen. I can enter into a chess match tomorrow. That will not make me a grand master.Not only can anybody enter, but somebody can even win and not be a beauty! I that much based on facts. You meet the winner and she has bad skin, frizzy hair, a flat ass, and on and on. It had to be the talent that got her that win I thought to myself LOL! Fucked plenty hotter than her. Hell, she isn't even hot! Just because you're in a beauty pageant doesn't make you beautiful! You can even win it and not be a head turner LOL!

Paulie97
05-03-22, 23:32
Mr. Emotion the time you spend writing these crazy posts, you could get a part time job and then you could afford a hot chick. Instead of being so jealous and complaining all the time. I am happy for Elvira.There's nothing to be "happy" for as no one knows Elvis. That includes his pictures and whatever political blog hogwash he posts here. So you can suck Elvis's dick, take and swallow the cum, but at the end of the day, both of you amount to zero. Do you feel me?

Villainy
05-04-22, 00:11
...... You can even win it and not be a head turner LOL!Very true and sometimes it made me wonder if they were a "head-giver" since they weren't a "head-turner".

JustTK
05-04-22, 00:50
It is really hard to prove something prevents death and even harder when you realize how the pols dictate what is put on a death certificate. That is why death numbers so often are fake.
Ah well you see, this is why you will like this study. It ignores the cause of death. It looks at ALL-cause mortality. And it shows that Pfizer and Moderna had zero effect on all cause mortlity. The only RCTs ever done show us that.

JustTK
05-04-22, 00:53
So she lets you fuck her ass and shit on her face?

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ZpHfk943T9IShe's the best sex I ever had in Thailand.

MarquisdeSade1
05-04-22, 01:35
Ah well you see, this is why you will like this study. It ignores the cause of death. It looks at ALL-cause mortality. And it shows that Pfizer and Moderna had zero effect on all cause mortlity. The only RCTs ever done show us that.https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/mental-health/3474366-naomi-judds-death-spotlights-a-national-mental-health-crisis-worsened-by-covid-19/

Nounce
05-04-22, 02:34
...
So to have the best sex IMO, you get a woman who is very attractive who is a 10 in bed but who has no inhibitions, and I do not think you get there unless you commit to her...I think you emphasize 10. To me that implies the good sex is in your head, and it is not physical.

DontSayMuch
05-04-22, 03:07
Ah well you see, this is why you will like this study. It ignores the cause of death. It looks at ALL-cause mortality. And it shows that Pfizer and Moderna had zero effect on all cause mortlity. The only RCTs ever done show us that.I read the study cited by the website and the video titled.

"Randomised clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines: do adenovirus-vector.

Vaccines have beneficial non-specific effects?

I disagree with your take on the conclusions in the study. The paper clearly states that the vaccines had an effect on Covid-19 related deaths. They also have incredibly low numbers. When you are looking at 1/21926 vs 2/21926, the numbers are so small that just +1/-1 throws it all out of whack. Look at the chart in the study discussing AstraZeneca in South America.

The effect on all-cause mortality is that the placebo has a mortality rate three times as high as the vaccine. This is accurate but then you see that the number is 1/1011 (with vaccine) vs 3/1011 (without vaccine).

JustTK
05-04-22, 04:59
I read the study cited by the website and the video titled.
"Randomised clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines: do adenovirus-vector.
Vaccines have beneficial non-specific effects?
Then it seems you either didn't watch the video or you didn't pay attention to what I wrote. I mentioned Pfizer and Moderna. I did not mention adenovirus vaccines.

Agreed, the sample sizes are small. But these are the same RCT samples that governments decided it was a great idea to lock the entire wolrd down for 2 years. They re the only ones that we have, and they show no conclusive effect of mRNA vaccines on all-cause mortality. Watch the video, the guy explains it all very well.

JustTK
05-04-22, 05:02
I think you emphasize 10. To me that implies the good sex is in your head, and it is not physical.I had a 10.5 many times from Tuk Tik. And I didn't commit to her anymore than the 100's of other guys she fucks every year. If I loved her and committed to her. I might be less impressed by the handful of guys that visit her room every day.

DontSayMuch
05-04-22, 05:13
Then it seems you either didn't watch the video or you didn't pay attention to what I wrote. I mentioned Pfizer and Moderna. I did not mention adenovirus vaccines.

Agreed, the sample sizes are small. But these are the same RCT samples that governments decided it was a great idea to lock the entire wolrd down for 2 years. They re the only ones that we have, and they show no conclusive effect of mRNA vaccines on all-cause mortality. Watch the video, the guy explains it all very well.Right, you didn't mention adenovirus. That was the name of the study though. The study is the one the video used and, in my opinion, purposefully mislead upon. Also not to nitpick, but most of these RCT samples are different than the samples used to base the shutdowns on.

If you look at figure1 in the study it shows that the vaccines have a strong correlation on deterring COVID-19 death. And even though it weakens my point LOL, I have to point out that even though there is a very strong effect shown it's really the difference of 5 people.

The study is a quick read if anyone wants to look:

SSRN-id4072489. Pdf.

That's the file referenced.

Even though we disagree I enjoyed the discussion and hope you have a nice night.

JjBee62
05-04-22, 06:05
I read the study cited by the website and the video titled.

"Randomised clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines: do adenovirus-vector.

Vaccines have beneficial non-specific effects?

I disagree with your take on the conclusions in the study. The paper clearly states that the vaccines had an effect on Covid-19 related deaths. They also have incredibly low numbers. When you are looking at 1/21926 vs 2/21926, the numbers are so small that just +1/-1 throws it all out of whack. Look at the chart in the study discussing AstraZeneca in South America.

The effect on all-cause mortality is that the placebo has a mortality rate three times as high as the vaccine. This is accurate but then you see that the number is 1/1011 (with vaccine) vs 3/1011 (without vaccine).You'll have to forgive JustTk. He's an idiot. If it's on YouTube, that's all the proof he needs.

Osteoknot
05-04-22, 08:19
I disagree with your take on the conclusions in the studyThe paper was not designed to make the points for which the anti-vaxers are attempting to use it. The paper was specifically looking at all-cause benefits in the adenovirus-vector arm, hence the title, "Do adenovirus-vector vaccines have beneficial non-specific effects"? Although I have a feeling the authors formed the title after they analyzed their results which isn't Kosher if operating under the pure scientific method where the premise should have been based on a null hypothesis.

The authors feel they proved the benefit in their title. I can't find enough fault with their preliminary findings to say further study is not warranted.

In fact, overall the paper is a "plus" or a win for supporting vaccination because the adenovirus-vector arm showed a clear, statistically significant reduction in all-cause mortality.

The Original Poster (OP) commits one of the classic, all-time pitfalls when he poses an argument or evidence that actually supports the opposite viewpoint. Comical, really, and I never cease to be amazed at this how common this intellectual blunder occurs.

You are correct to point out that the death numbers are very small which makes all conclusions suspect, especially considering that data collection was taken from multiple trials with different methodologies, one of the inherent weaknesses in all Review Papers. Did you notice the authors resorted to calling the authors of the original papers to figure out who died from what? While I admire that tenacity, that speaks volumes to the tenuous nature of the data.

That there was not a reduction in overall mortality in the mRNA arm of the study (code for Pfizer and Moderna) is not a surprise. The majority of the individuals in the trials were healthy volunteers. In real-life, COVID-19 vaccines are administered to highly vulnerable populations with high COVID-19-dependent mortalities. The "real world" outcomes are probably significantly different, and I expect would show such a reduction.

In spite of these limitations, the authors concluded that all the vaccines, including Pfizer and Moderna were associated with a lower risk of Covid-19 death, a point that seems to have been lost by the anti-vaxers.

No matter what side of the fence you are on, it only hurts your cause when you take an original scientific research paper that shows the opposite of your beliefs, and then try to co-opt and warp the results to support your viewpoint. That is intellectual laziness caused my emotional zealousness, and creates an instant loss of credibility.

I will not respond to any additional additional posts about this unless by some minor miracle, someone here for the first time has something more advanced to say compared to the sum total of all the prior posts here on Covid. I don't even know why I submit myself to this extra energy other than I think it's intellectual heresy to make the kind of uninformed conclusions the OP made from this paper.

DontSayMuch ShouldSayMore because he is the first person I have seen her in a long time who knows how to think critically without an obvious unfounded bias.

I have no axe to grind. Everything I have predicted about Covid so far has come true. The vaccines are medically becoming a moot point, and all restrictions are easing up. Let's hope a new more virulent strain doesn't pop up somewhere.

Don't try to engage me on these issues. I will not choose to waste my time like that. This post is just about the paper and its misinterpretation.

If I were one of the original journal reviewers who decided whether or not the paper gets published, which was one of the many hats I wore, I would have said the paper was in need of a major rewrite and reorganization before publication.

Paulie97
05-04-22, 08:29
I think you emphasize 10. To me that implies the good sex is in your head, and it is not physical.There's no evidence that this Elvis twerp has ever been to Colombia, much less had a ten, has anyone met the guy? I've asked this before I know, no response.

JustTK
05-04-22, 14:25
Then it seems you either didn't watch the video or you didn't pay attention to what I wrote.For anyone that is interested in the subject (ii. E. Anyone that is not overwhelmingly consumed by cognitive dissonance that the last thing they want to doscuss this days is COVID), here is an excellent discusson on this very study:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_nKoybyMGg

Very fair and balance views expressed. Interesting to anyone that seeks the truth.

JjBee62
05-04-22, 16:29
For anyone that is interested in the subject (ii. E. Anyone that is not overwhelmingly consumed by cognitive dissonance that the last thing they want to doscuss this days is COVID), here is an excellent discusson on this very study:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_nKoybyMGg

Very fair and balance views expressed. Interesting to anyone that seeks the truth.And once again, biased YouTube videos, geared towards idiots, serve no purpose except to highlight the stupidity of the idiots who post links to YouTube videos.

If you want to learn how to replace the cabin air filter on your 2009 Chevrolet, go to YouTube. If you want to watch videos of guys getting hit in the gonads, go to YouTube.

If you want to discuss complex scientific studies, go directly to the studies. Anything you find on YouTube is either biased and misleading, completely incorrect or dumbed down to toddler level. Unless you're only able to handle scientific research at a 4 year old level, you're intentionally attempting to push biased, misleading and often totally incorrect material.

Considering you're the one who complained about the days getting too short, I'm going with both 4 year old mentality and biased and misleading.

JustTK
05-04-22, 19:38
most of these RCT samples are different than the samples used to base the shutdowns on.

Even though we disagree I enjoyed the discussion and hope you have a nice night.Thats fine. I enjoy a friendly back and forth. These are the same studies. They are the only ones that exist. Watch the video I posted today for another interpretation.

What I find frustrating are the blinkered people that label all analysts as anti vaccers unless they sign and dance along w the govt line. It shows how inept their position is.

DramaFree11
05-04-22, 20:16
There's nothing to be "happy" for as no one knows Elvis. That includes his pictures and whatever political blog hogwash he posts here. So you can suck Elvis's dick, take and swallow the cum, but at the end of the day, both of you amount to zero. Do you feel me?Thanks for proving my point. We have both been to Colombia. I can not speak for Elvis, bit o hated every minute I was there.

Also if you get a part time job, you will have more money and you will probably be happier and less liberal.

Paulie97
05-05-22, 03:04
Thanks for proving my point. We have both been to Colombia. I can not speak for Elvis, bit o hated every minute I was there.

Also if you get a part time job, you will have more money and you will probably be happier and less liberal.You are a little Russo sympathizing twerp that pretends that Mexico is better that Colombia but have likely never been to either country, just like your top the Marquis de Twat. Get out of mom's basement, travel a bit then maybe you'll have a bit to share here. We couldn't care less about your wingnut blogs.

DramaFree11
05-05-22, 03:59
You are a little Russo sympathizing twerp that pretends that Mexico is better that Colombia but have likely never been to either country, just like your top the Marquis de Twat. Get out of mom's basement, travel a bit then maybe you'll have a bit to share here. We couldn't care less about your wingnut blogs.You are correct about one thing, I wish I would have never went to Colombia. Colombia girls contact me instant block.

RamDavidson84
05-05-22, 04:31
And once again, biased YouTube videos, geared towards idiots, serve no purpose except to highlight the stupidity of the idiots who post links to YouTube videos.

If you want to learn how to replace the cabin air filter on your 2009 Chevrolet, go to YouTube. If you want to watch videos of guys getting hit in the gonads, go to YouTube.

If you want to discuss complex scientific studies, go directly to the studies. Anything you find on YouTube is either biased and misleading, completely incorrect or dumbed down to toddler level. Unless you're only able to handle scientific research at a 4 year old level, you're intentionally attempting to push biased, misleading and often totally incorrect material.

Considering you're the one who complained about the days getting too short, I'm going with both 4 year old mentality and biased and misleading.Unheard, "The youtube Channel" is not geared toward idiots, yes it is an anti-vaccine biased channel to a degree, but it's a very necessary evil which intelligently plays devil's advocate to the mainstream narrative. I think it's very negligent to not question or look into any negative possible side effects from these new vaccines or any vaccines. That type of blind loyalty does not lead to the healthiest possible society. I think you show extreme bias by labeling anyone who wants to speak about any possible negative side effects about the vaccines as an "idiot" or someone who has the intelligence of a "4 year old".

Attempting to educate the public on viruses and vaccines is going to be very important for the health of our societies going forward, especially when considering the exponential growth of the human species which is going to inevitably lead to more strains of severe viruses, and more importantly we can gain a deeper understanding of how to better deal with the consequences, containment, and treatment of these new viruses. People lead busy lives and youtube / twitter / facebook / social media are incredibly valuable tools we can utilize to educate the public quickly and effectively on these new important issues. We can't dismiss a source simply because it doesn't follow the narrative the big pharma companies in coordination with the mainstream media are constantly preaching to society, which I suspect is tied to profits for the companies who are profiting from the vaccines and endless boosters coming out which don't seem to be so effective or prevent transmission.

We desperately need to put our political bias aside and eliminate the blind loyalty many extremists have to their political parties. I am extremely upset to see the party I tend to agree with on most issues has opened the debate to overturn Roe vs Wade. In my opinion, this was a dead issue for many and there are much more important problems we need to solve first before considering reopening the can of worms around the legality of abortion. Personally I am in full support of legal abortion very late in pregnancy in most scenarios. I also think fixing the nation's inflation, affordable energy independence, fixing the immigration system, liberating Ukraine and defending democracy, and securing the border from the drug cartels who control it are much more important issues.

I am also overall optimistic about Elon Musk buying Twitter due to my views that twitter was very biased towards conservatives and I have seen evidence they were suppressing and eliminating the speech of many conservatives, however I am very concerned how just one person can purchase an entire Corporation like twitter and then run it and wield it's power to his will. I am not exactly sure giving one person that much power and influence is such a good thing.

My main point is I don't just blindly agree with whatever the conservative narrative tells me to think and I analyze all issues separately before I take a very humble opinion on them and I think more people who take a similar stance could create a more cohesive less toxic American society.

And most importantly, the host of "Unheard" has an Elitist British Accent and those types of people are always the smartest and never lie haha, jk. Hopefully all humor is not lost on such subjects.

Elvis 2008
05-05-22, 16:21
You are correct about one thing, I wish I would have never went to Colombia. Colombia girls contact me instant block.DF,

There are these Democrat blowhards like Paulie who criticize anyone who posts Republican leaning talking points. You had the audacity to say in Ukraine everyone loses, and you are right. The only narrative acceptable to these dumb Dems is Putin is evil and we need to spend trillions to defend Ukraine.

I am in Colombia right now. My gal just made me breakfast, and we continue to make magic in the bedroom. Life is good.

With the pandemic and travel ban, there was this brief period of time where some of the best of the best women in Mexico and Colombia came available. The beauty queen was one of those types. She was the total package but she had an abrasive personality. She was young and immature and I do not think she had been out on that many dates. She had that crazy cockiness you said that Colombian women possess.

People do not get how bleak and depressed things were in Colombia with the travel ban and Covid. It was horrible, and I played myself as being this light in the darkness.

I met my current gal on my second trip down to Colombia after the pandemic. If not for the pandemic, she would not have been available.

That said, I know what you meant. I did date a few of the upper echelon women through seeking but I also saw the egotistical hucksters and ugly women you did, and Medellin was the worst for that.

Yeah, you would think people would want to learn right? Who does not want to meet and date a beauty queen?

Paulie is so hopeless I have him on ignore. Every post is either his slamming someone or kissing ass. He was in his mom's basement scared of the Crony virus while telling the world what to do with it while we are out using common sense and living it up.

Paulie97
05-05-22, 22:28
You are correct about one thing, I wish I would have never went to Colombia. Colombia girls contact me instant block.I don't think you've ever been as the information you report is so inaccurate. You are about as genuine as the Marquis de Twat with his Medellin pics ripped off a gringa vacation blog and reports of super high fat content in the beef. About all we can count on from you is free drama while supporting the Russians as they blow up maternity wards and gun down seniors riding their bicycles. Enjoy your basement air.

Paulie97
05-05-22, 23:32
I am also overall optimistic about Elon Musk buying Twitter due to my views that twitter was very biased towards conservatives and I have seen evidence they were suppressing and eliminating the speech of many conservativesYou aren't a "conservative." Get a bit of education and study respectable men like Reagan and the Bushes. You are a conspiracy theory chasing loon in the vein of Newsmax, Tucker Carlson, and other silliness. Lies is the word for it, and at it's worst is subversive and criminal. No calls to hang the VP and the speaker of the house are not protected speech.

Villainy
05-06-22, 02:32
You are correct about one thing, I wish I would have never went to Colombia. Colombia girls contact me instant block.Oddly enough most of the expats living here and most Colombians also wish you had never gone to Colombia. If you can't score up some beautiful women here in Colombia.

Well it isn't the Country's fault. You might want to look in the mirror.

Paulie97
05-06-22, 03:19
Oddly enough most of the expats living here and most Colombians also wish you had never gone to Colombia. If you can't score up some beautiful women here in Colombia.

Well it isn't the Country's fault. You might want to look in the mirror.He's never been. He might have crossed the border into Mexico but I doubt even that as it's too far away from his momma's apron strings.

Nounce
05-06-22, 03:29
..Paulie is so hopeless I have him on ignore. Every post is either his slamming someone or kissing ass. He was in his mom's basement scared of the Crony virus while telling the world what to do with it while we are out using common sense and living it up.DF basically constantly shits where you eat and you can still find common ground with him. Why can't you do the same with Paulie?

RamDavidson84
05-06-22, 03:46
You aren't a "conservative." Get a bit of education and study respectable men like Reagan and the Bushes. You are a conspiracy theory chasing loon in the vein of Newsmax, Tucker Carlson, and other silliness. Lies is the word for it, and at it's worst is subversive and criminal. No calls to hang the VP and the speaker of the house are not protected speech.Haha and for anyone who reads this forum, they can clearly see you are a troll. I never even referred to myself as a conservative although I tend to agree with most of their views these days. Please show some evidence which points to the fact that I believe in conspiracy theories? Just show one piece of evidence, that's all I ask. You won't be able to and you will just resort to attacking my sanity instead of engaging in a civil discussion which was the whole point of the post I wrote. "Extremists" like you are destroying the country.

I can tell from reading your posts that you have lost the ability to put yourself in other people's shoes and look at things from their perspective. You have lost this ability most likely due to losing in life and you view yourself as failure because society doesn't notice you and you have become irrelevant. This failure has desensitized you and limited your emotional and cognitive abilities. I have noticed this about many extremists on both the left and the right. They can only follow the heard like a sheep because the only emotion that resonates with them anymore are the "trigger alarms" from their political parties. Of course I haven't met you in real life and I can't claim that is 100% accurate for you personally, but as I stated, I have noticed this in many people who are far left or far right.

Clearly Television shows on FoxNews and CNN are incredibly biased, but this is 100% apparent and everyone knows it is their job to defend and argue the stance of the political party they represent. They are "Talking Heads" and nothing more. "Unheard" presents a much more balanced argument in the form of a discussion and allows the viewer to view the information they present and then make up their own mind. This is very different from the formats of shows like Tucker Carlson and Don lemon or Rachel Maddow. Those shows frequently resort to mud-racking, slander, taking talking points out context, etc to justify the policies they support.

You have also entered into territory which just makes me lose all respect for you. You actually suggested that George W. Bush was a "respectable" President or man or conservative. Are you American? You must be from another country because George W. Bush was a horrific President. How he handled the terrorist attack on 9/11 and the suspected nuclear weapons in the middle east was a complete and total disaster and failure. His policies and the trillions he spent on the war in the middle east were a total fucking waste, not to mention the millions of innocent lives destroyed by the United States military. The consequences of the war in Afghanistan will reverberate through generations. The people of that nation are now ruled by warlords who will torture, kill, and even rape their political opposition. A truly horrific scenario which should have never occurred. Many would argue it also greatly contributed to the financial crisis of 2008. There isn't a single thing he accomplished policy wise that you can point to and be proud of as an American. His foreign wars painted Americans as warmongers who are lead by greed rather than morality. He was also blind to the rising power of China and it was under his administration and prior administrations that millions of American jobs in manufacturing were transferred overseas and the creation of the rust belt and hundreds of thousands of unemployed Americans. He was also incredibly un-charismatic and a terrible public speaker who often made himself look like a fool. He handed the Presidency on a silver plater to Obama, even though John McCain was vastly more qualified. Many would argue McCain would have been much more effective than Obama in many aspects. The only reason he was elected is because his father was President of the United States during Desert Storm which was a justified war and total success. Due to the coalition of nations which was formed to defeat Sadam / Iraq also strengthened the reputation of the United States as a Noble Super Power not to be fucked with and further galvanized our global alliances. This was all diminished during the George W. Bush Administration as he fought a costly and pointless war.

Bottom Line: You are acting like a troll and I hope you find some balance in your views and your heart. You have also made yourself look like a fool by trying to justify the George W. Bush Presidency as even remotely effective at any of the policies they implemented during his administration. Dick Cheney is evil and Reagan should have been made king LOL!

Paulie97
05-06-22, 04:08
DF basically constantly shits where you eat and you can still find common ground with him. Why can't you do the same with Paulie?I've been "living it up," was in Colombia all of September and October of last year plus January and February of this year. I have a regular rotation of girls that all take cream pies with a smile. But I have my shots, wear masks in some circumstances, realize risks and don't spread lies online like some twerps that have no patience. Pandemics happen, have since the beginning of recorded history and typically last two to three years. Patience is all that has been needed, not goofy conspiracy theories. Thanks for your contributions Nounce. They are typically useful.

Huacho
05-06-22, 04:12
the debate to overturn Roe vs Wade. In my opinion, this was a dead issue Abortion as a "dead" issue. Ja ja. But yeah, and then ban the morning after pill, and go to heaven. There aren't any hookers in heaven except for Mary What's Her Name so why go there? Anyone who is against abortion has a very simple solution: don't have an abortion. What anyone else does is none of anybody else's business. I fail to see why this continues to be an issue.

Huacho
05-06-22, 04:17
I met my current gal on my second trip down to Colombia after the pandemic. If not for the pandemic, she would not have been available.So she wasn't a ho before the pandemic hit? Or she was a ho but not a desperate ho? Or she raised her weight limit during the pandemic?

Osteoknot
05-06-22, 06:50
you can still find common ground with him. Why can't you do the same with Paulie?I called you out once before for being too magnanimous. Will you please despise someone? I will volunteer for the position if I can just get you to say something bad about someone here. Gawd knows, there's no shortage of eligible candidates.

I try to generally follow suit and ignore or not engage the trolls, but you take it to another level. You actively try to make peace. You're really starting to bug me.

You are too comfortable and that annoys me but I don't know why, jajaja.

Jajajajaja, Ostee Out and Keep On Keepin' On like you always do. If everyone did, the world would be a better place.

RamDavidson84
05-06-22, 07:22
You aren't a "conservative." Get a bit of education and study respectable men like Reagan and the Bushes. You are a conspiracy theory chasing loon in the vein of Newsmax, Tucker Carlson, and other silliness. Lies is the word for it, and at it's worst is subversive and criminal. No calls to hang the VP and the speaker of the house are not protected speech.Elon Musk is one of the most intelligent and innovative men to ever exist: Fact.

Single handedly solved our nation's addiction to the gas engine and oil by revolutionizing the design of electric automobiles: Fact.

Out designed Rocket Ships better than fucking NASA: Fact.

Became the richest fucking man on the Planet: Fact.

Elon decides Twitter is biased and is not upholding the true values of Free Speech and puts up 44 Billion of his own money to buy Twitter in order to restore balance to politics. Personally for me anyway, when I witness a man as successful and intelligent as Elon Musk state there is not only evidence to support the fact that Twitter suppresses Free Speech / Conservative Policies, but actually buys the fucking company, that's enough justification for me state that there is evidence that Twitter is biased and suppresses the voice of conservatives. At that point, no one should be labeled a whack job conspiracy chaser for saying Twitter may be suppressing free speech. I never said that Twitter actually did that or I have direct evidence of it, but certainly the discussion of the extent of how biased Twitter has become is justified. Healthy societies should be able to have these discussions without attacking each other and labeling them racist bigots as liberal media has now done to Elon Musk. They are opening claiming he trying to bring back the policies of South African Apartheid. To me, that's vile unnecessary mud-racking.

When Trump won his election in 2016, there was a massive investigation and media campaign which accused him of conspiring with Russia to steal the Election. Republicans allowed a comprehensive government led investigation into whether there were any truth to these claims. I personally never believed he did conspire with Russia, but I was happy there was a very formal investigation which proved he had won the election fairly. Healthy cooperative dissent, checks and balances, separation of powers, free speech- these are the fundamentals which America was founded on and so many nations around the world have modeled their governments on as well. We shouldn't lose these values and silence any opposition just because it goes against profits for a company or a campaign for an election. Just because someone wants to find out the extent of the side effects from a vaccine or exactly how effective a vaccine is to gain a greater understanding for the next time there is a Pandemic, that person shouldn't be labeled a conspiracy chasing loon.

Now if someone is tweeting to hang certain politicians, obviously that type of speech is not protected and I have seen no evidence that Elon Musk would allow such speech or any type of true racist hate speech. Both for white conservatives or black liberals. All forms of racism should be banned from twitter to keep a healthy balance. I think Elon Musk has a proven track record of success at solving complicated problems and he deserves a chance to see if he can create a better Twitter for society without being labeled a racist villain. And as I said before, I am not 100% on this just because I never like the idea of one person wielding too much power and influence, especially when the influence has been bought and not won in a democratic election.

Paulie97
05-06-22, 07:47
Oddly enough most of the expats living here and most Colombians also wish you had never gone to Colombia. If you can't score up some beautiful women here in Colombia.

Well it isn't the Country's fault. You might want to look in the mirror.He's never been, doesn't have the $ to go. He's too busy reading online and sucking up to Putin. No matter how you want to roll you can get your game on in Colombia.

DramaFree11
05-06-22, 16:26
Oddly enough most of the expats living here and most Colombians also wish you had never gone to Colombia. If you can't score up some beautiful women here in Colombia.

Well it isn't the Country's fault. You might want to look in the mirror.Nope, MDE is definitely not for me, I have standards.

I do agree there are some beautiful girls in Colombia, but skinny girls are not that easy to find, especially in MDE. Thick and curvy is the style, sorry the truth hurts.

There are a couple of guys that have posted some pictures of some beautiful girls, but I did not see a lot of those girls when I was there. I give those guys credit.

I am sure I would be way more attracted to the girls in Bogota.

JjBee62
05-06-22, 16:44
Abortion as a "dead" issue. Ja ja. But yeah, and then ban the morning after pill, and go to heaven. There aren't any hookers in heaven except for Mary What's Her Name so why go there? Anyone who is against abortion has a very simple solution: don't have an abortion. What anyone else does is none of anybody else's business. I fail to see why this continues to be an issue.He spends all of his time worrying about what other people do.

First he was worried that people didn't make charitable contributions. Then he was bothered because I do. Then he admitted he doesn't make any charitable contributions. After that he got all upset because JustTK had a trannie. On and on, he got all panicked because one trans woman swimmer won 1 event and started crying about how unfair it was to other women.

Then his panties got all in a bunch because Osteo got himself pegged. Got to figure he's going to start screaming when he finds out anyone is doing anything without his prior approval.

JjBee62
05-06-22, 18:07
Nope, MDE is definitely not for me, I have standards.

I do agree there are some beautiful girls in Colombia, but skinny girls are not that easy to find, especially in MDE. Thick and curvy is the style, sorry the truth hurts.

There are a couple of guys that have posted some pictures of some beautiful girls, but I did not see a lot of those girls when I was there. I give those guys credit.

I am sure I would be way more attracted to the girls in Bogota.Just my opinion, and I've spent less than a month in Bogota, but I find the women in Medellin to be in better shape and more slender than the women in Bogota. It's the terrain. Bogota sits on a plateau, Medellin is a series of valleys. The poorer you are, the higher up you live. That means climbing steep hills, often carrying groceries. Strong legs and well defined glutes are the norm here.

I've never had any problem finding slim, all natural girls in either city. I use a simple scale. I'm 60 years old and out of shape. If the girl is too heavy for me to pick her up while fucking, stand up and walk around the room, then she's too big. I've only run into that once in Medellin and she was pretty tall.

Now, if you're talking anorexic skinny, I know of a few, but they are definitely more difficult to find.

I think it's already been said. If you can't find a beautiful woman (to you) in Medellin, either you're not looking for women, or there's something seriously wrong with you.

Villainy
05-06-22, 18:40
Nope, MDE is definitely not for me, I have standards.

I do agree there are some beautiful girls in Colombia, but skinny girls are not that easy to find, especially in MDE. Thick and curvy is the style, sorry the truth hurts.

There are a couple of guys that have posted some pictures of some beautiful girls, but I did not see a lot of those girls when I was there. I give those guys credit.

I am sure I would be way more attracted to the girls in Bogota.I'm curious what "standards" you think you have. The other part about skinny girls (we call them 'flacas' or 'flacquitas' here) being hard to find is laughable. I doubt you could walk a single busy block in Medellin and not bump into at least 20. If that busy block is Avenida Poblado or La Setenta, that number would go up 10 fold.

If you have actually visited Medellin and your complaint is that you didn't see any thin attractive girls. You must have spent the whole time in your Hotel room. I recommend you don't bother visiting Bogota either because you won't find a lot of beautiful thin girls in your hotel room there either.

JustTK
05-06-22, 19:02
Unheard, "The youtube Channel" is not geared toward idiots. And most importantly, the host of "Unheard" has an Elitist British Accent and those types of people are always the smartest and never lie haha, jk. Hopefully all humor is not lost on such subjects.As usual, I don't agree with all you say, but it is a good post and very reasonable. .

I love Unheard. The host is actually half-Swedish, believe it or not. So def no lying there. They are brave enough to host both sides of most stories. They had Douglas Murray on this week, the horrible repugnant little man. But Freddie asked him some great questions and managed to hold back his own views.

"biased YouTube videos, geared towards idiots" - comments like that just shows its own failings. "here is a program that does not hold my views. It must be baised and idiotic then!" haha. That type of ignorant and arrogant attitude is what has brought the USA to the critical divide it now finds itself at.

Mr Enternational
05-06-22, 19:39
Single handedly solved our nation's addiction to the gas engine and oil by revolutionizing the design of electric automobiles: Fact.Where does the energy used to charge the cars come from? What about the process of making the batteries used in the cars? Fixing one problem by creating another.

Mr Enternational
05-06-22, 19:41
Single handedly solved our nation's addiction to the gas engine and oil by revolutionizing the design of electric automobiles: Fact.Where does the energy used to charge the cars come from? What about the process of making the batteries used in the cars? Fixing one problem by creating another that you can get paid from. When cars came along people were thankful they no longer had to worry about all the shit dropped by the horses pulling buggies.

Osteoknot
05-06-22, 19:48
Then his panties got all in a bunch because Osteo got himself pegged. Got to figure he's going to start screaming when he finds out anyone is doing anything without his prior approval.I have so many people on my Ignore List stuff like that often escapes me. Oh well, ignorance is bliss as they say, jajaja. I don't know who you're talking about, don't care. We are surrounded by narrow-minded amateurs here and worse, comes with the territory.

Yeah, that was a unique experience that I could learn to like because the best part is, the chicas love it. Ask your girls, you will be surprised how many Colombianas walk around with this fantasy, desire really, to fuck a guy in the ass with a strap-on. I was shocked how common it was in my circle. Catgirl loves it, her only complaint was that I bought the smallest dildo they had since I was a newbie, jajajaja.

Thanks for reminding me, I need to buy another harness and dildo for the house where the girls and I will be staying. Jajajaja. Should I move up a size?

Boots on the ground, Thursday!

Zeos1
05-06-22, 20:14
Where does the energy used to charge the cars come from? What about the process of making the batteries used in the cars? Fixing one problem by creating another that you can get paid from. When cars came along people were thankful they no longer had to worry about all the shit dropped by the horses pulling buggies.Many of the people pushing electric think that electricity is unlimited. Perhaps it is, but at a tremendous cost. Imagine continents totally covered with solar panels.

The amount of resources needed to construct all the solar panels, windmills, batteries, etc. Would dwarf any other usage in the industrial age. And fossil fuels are needed to refine, build, transport, etc.

Canada alone will need 90 new nuclear power plants to meet needs for electricity for the 0 carbon goal. There is not even 1 being built. And in Ontario we have spent billions on solar and wind energy, and it is not even a significant fraction of current demand. Hence need for baseload nuclear plants. None of which are being built.

RamDavidson84
05-06-22, 20:24
Where does the energy used to charge the cars come from? What about the process of making the batteries used in the cars? Fixing one problem by creating another that you can get paid from. When cars came along people were thankful they no longer had to worry about all the shit dropped by the horses pulling buggies.To go deeper into it, yes we still generate a lot of our electricity from fossil fuels, I think around 50% off the top of my head. Shifting to electric cars is a step in the right direction though. The cheapest cleanest energy at the moment is Nuclear and many renewable energy experts would advocate we need to start producing a lot more our nation's electric from Nuclear power plants, Finland has done this and its working very well for them. Eventually, fossil fuels are going to run out, long before that it will just be flat out too expensive to purchase gasoline. We also desperately need to conserve fossil fuels to manufacture products from plastics. Not many substances can match the versatility of plastics. Also, you going to pay 10 bucks a gallon or buy an EV which gets its energy from renewable sources? And finally, the carbon emissions probably aren't great for the environment. I am not the expert of course, but if you look into it a bit, this seems to be the most logical solution.

If you have a better answer, I would love to hear it?

RamDavidson84
05-06-22, 20:29
Abortion as a "dead" issue. Ja ja. But yeah, and then ban the morning after pill, and go to heaven. There aren't any hookers in heaven except for Mary What's Her Name so why go there? Anyone who is against abortion has a very simple solution: don't have an abortion. What anyone else does is none of anybody else's business. I fail to see why this continues to be an issue.I don't understand what exactly you are trying to say? Be more clear in your arguments please if you are going to respond to my posts.

RamDavidson84
05-06-22, 20:34
Many of the people pushing electric think that electricity is unlimited. Perhaps it is, but at a tremendous cost. Imagine continents totally covered with solar panels.

The amount of resources needed to construct all the solar panels, windmills, batteries, etc. Would dwarf any other usage in the industrial age. And fossil fuels are needed to refine, build, transport, etc.

Canada alone will need 90 new nuclear power plants to meet needs for electricity for the 0 carbon goal. There is not even 1 being built. And in Ontario we have spent billions on solar and wind energy, and it is not even a significant fraction of current demand. Hence need for baseload nuclear plants. None of which are being built.Nuclear bro, got to develop that technology and it won't come at a greater cost than mining for fossil fuels. In a few decades we should have Nuclear Fusion technology which will produce no toxic waste, no air pollution, and produce several times more energy than the current form we have which is Nuclear fission. Again, I am not the expert and if you are really interested in it, you should look it up, it's interesting stuff.

RamDavidson84
05-06-22, 20:50
He spends all of his time worrying about what other people do.

First he was worried that people didn't make charitable contributions. Then he was bothered because I do. Then he admitted he doesn't make any charitable contributions. After that he got all upset because JustTK had a trannie. On and on, he got all panicked because one trans woman swimmer won 1 event and started crying about how unfair it was to other women.

Then his panties got all in a bunch because Osteo got himself pegged. Got to figure he's going to start screaming when he finds out anyone is doing anything without his prior approval.HAHAHAHAHA, bro you are so off. You think I give a fuck what you do with your money? I am just letting people know you are a strange man who donates 25% of his income to fire victims in cash. That is fucking weird man. Yes, Osteo getting fucked in the ass, he is not my type of guy, personally if your constantly on drugs and fucking dozens of women and getting fucked in the ass, you clearly have some issues and I can't take your posts serious. Do I care if that's how he wants to live his life, hell no, but when he jumps in and makes fun of me, I have the right to respond. LOL he called me Ramsbutt to make fun of me and then he himself gets fucked in the ass haha. The guy is clearly a junkie sex addict. If JustTk wants to bang a trannie, god bless him as I have said many times. I think he also stated he is not into trannies but again, People who fuck with trannies are just not my type of people I would want to associate with. That's where I draw the line. Guys who fucks trannies may be great guys, but there just not my type of people to put it mildly. If a person is a tranny, again I could care less, that is their right.

Yes it is extremely unfair and insane to let a man swim and compete against women. You are 1000% wrong on that and it is something I am upset about. I cannot comprehend how that was ever allowed and my heart goes out to all the people who have to deal with that selfish asshole stealing medals from those female athletes. Does anyone else here really condone letting men compete in women's sports? WTF happened to society?

DramaFree11
05-06-22, 21:46
I'm curious what "standards" you think you have. The other part about skinny girls (we call them 'flacas' or 'flacquitas' here) being hard to find is laughable. I doubt you could walk a single busy block in Medellin and not bump into at least 20. If that busy block is Avenida Poblado or La Setenta, that number would go up 10 fold.

If you have actually visited Medellin and your complaint is that you didn't see any thin attractive girls. You must have spent the whole time in your Hotel room. I recommend you don't bother visiting Bogota either because you won't find a lot of beautiful thin girls in your hotel room there either.My definition of skinny and hot must be much different then yours. Skinny is not how I would describe girls from MDE. Thick, Curvy, fat, fake and big asses is a much better definition. I see more hot girls in CDMX on a Good Friday, then I saw in 3 months in MDE. MDE is average or below average at best, depending on your standards.

Correct I will never return.

Elvis 2008
05-06-22, 21:55
DF basically constantly shits where you eat and you can still find common ground with him.I am not sure what you mean by that. I have met DF in real life. We have somewhat different approaches but we both spend the money, do the work, and have helped each other to get the best women we can.


Why can't you do the same with Paulie?Because he is a liar, never admits he is wrong, kisses ass of Democrats, kicks the ass of people who are Republican, and like many Democratic douches looks at the entire world through a red-blue prism.

I will give you an example that does not even involve me. DF has been to Ukraine and Russia, and he was going to go back. I was considering going with him if he did return, and this was all before Russia invaded Ukraine. DF made the point that everyone is getting hurt in the war, and he is right. Did Paulie provide any useful information to counter this? No, he said DF had probably never been to either country and loved Putin.

Tell me, Nounce, how do you find common ground with that?

When I engage and argue with people, it is often that I am making gambles and I want to account for as many variables as I can. Some guys were not willing to go to Colombia right away after the travel ban was lifted. I made my calculations, listened to the input of others, argued my POV being open to my being wrong, decided I was right and the risks were small, and I was rewarded bigly.

So I do not care about being popular here but winning in real life.

And FWIW, the Democratic douches have been amazingly more obnoxious lately because they have so little they can defend. So while others are critical of Biden and rightly so, I am making the gamble that the stock market crashes, and I have not seen the odds this much in my favor in my life.

If Paulie provided any information that supported his POV and was worth listening to, I would engage with him, but he provides no useful information to me outside of how fucking crazy so many Democrats are.

So I have bought SDOW, SQQQ, and SPXU, and they have done really well in the last few weeks, and I will be adding TZA here soon.

When Paulie was sitting in his mom's basement at home, DF and I were out scoring stunning women. Do you see him learning anything from that and coming around and respecting and evaluating another's POV? I don't. What I bet is the funds I mentioned go through the roof, and that asshole saying I never bought them. Why would I want to deal with that shit?

JjBee62
05-06-22, 22:03
Where does the energy used to charge the cars come from? What about the process of making the batteries used in the cars? Fixing one problem by creating another that you can get paid from. When cars came along people were thankful they no longer had to worry about all the shit dropped by the horses pulling buggies.And Musk didn't invent shit. He bought a company that made electric cars. The only thing he might have done is generate enough interest for all of the other car companies, which have had electric cars for at least 50 years, to dust off their designs and start producing them.

That's pretty typical for Ram. One day he's complaining that alternative energy is bringing about the collapse of civilization, the next he's claiming electric cars saved the world.

Villainy
05-06-22, 23:01
You think I give a fuck what you do with your money? I am just letting people know you are a strange man who donates 25% of his income to fire victims in cash. That is fucking weird man....I'm sorry for intruding on your 'everyone is crazy but me rant' but I don't remember JjBee62 saying that his charitable contribution was in cash for 25% of his income. He is allowed to make charitable contributions with possessions at fair-market value. For example, he could donate: books, clothing, cars, trucks, furniture, appliances and on and on. There are some limits on the amounts he can deduct relative to his AGI (adjusted gross income) but 25% is well within the limits of all the categories. At least that is my recollection.

I realize when he said he made contributions of 25% of his income. That you immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was all in cash. You probably weren't aware of in-kind contributions. A natural mistake for someone who has probably never given anything to anybody in his life.

JjBee62
05-07-22, 00:02
As usual, I don't agree with all you say, but it is a good post and very reasonable. .

I love Unheard. The host is actually half-Swedish, believe it or not. So def no lying there. They are brave enough to host both sides of most stories. They had Douglas Murray on this week, the horrible repugnant little man. But Freddie asked him some great questions and managed to hold back his own views.

"biased YouTube videos, geared towards idiots" - comments like that just shows its own failings. "here is a program that does not hold my views. It must be baised and idiotic then!" haha. That type of ignorant and arrogant attitude is what has brought the USA to the critical divide it now finds itself at.It's ridiculously simple. I'm absolutely certain that any average child could understand it. I'm also absolutely certain you can't.

First, the description for children:

When you do your homework, you have to use a pencil. You can't use crayons. The homework you turn in has to be the homework that was assigned. If you are asked to answer "what is 5+3?" Your answer should be 8. If your answer is not 8, it will be marked wrong. Your homework will be checked by the teacher before a grade is assigned. You will not get a good grade unless you complete the homework correctly.

Now for the adults:

Every publication has a set of editorial standards applied to any submission. Even advertising must meet the standards before being accepted for publication. If you're submitting an article to People Magazine it must first pass review. It has to be pertinent to the publication. A story about how to castrate pigs, no matter how well written, won't be accepted.

Peer-reviewed publications step it up a level. Not only does the submission have to pass the review, it's then submitted for review by people who know the subject. If your data doesn't match your conclusions, if your methodology is flawed, if your references don't check out, it gets rejected. Even after it's accepted and published, the wider scientific community analyzes everything. If it survives all of that, your study is accepted and becomes the basis for further studies.

Then there's YouTube. YouTube has its community standards. When Ram videos you getting pegged by a trannie, you can't put it on YouTube, because it violates their standards. If you're promoting violence or illegal acts, it violates community standards.

However, as long as you avoid nudity, calls for violence and a few other things. You can say almost anything. Nobody is checking it for accuracy. Nobody is verifying your data. If you make a video titled "how to properly peel a banana" and the video shows someone changing their socks, it's perfectly acceptable. If someone says "I was in Tulsa, Oklahoma on Tuesday, you can claim the person was in Kingston, Jamaica, having sex with a goat. There is zero accountability.

To make it worse, whoever runs the channel can delete any comments which point out the inaccuracies in the video. So, not only is there no verification process, but there no process to identify errors or deliberate misrepresentations.

YouTube contributors aren't even accountable to advertisers. The video earns money based solely on the number of views.

If you're getting your scientific information from YouTube, then you're one of the idiots eating up the biased views.

Mr Enternational
05-07-22, 03:15
Yes it is extremely unfair and insane to let a man swim and compete against women. You are 1000% wrong on that and it is something I am upset about. I cannot comprehend how that was ever allowed and my heart goes out to all the people who have to deal with that selfish asshole stealing medals from those female athletes. Does anyone else here really condone letting men compete in women's sports?Yes I condone this. It is simply a matter of getting what you paid for. This is what happens when you refuse to admit that double standards do exist and should exist.

You take the bad with the good. You can't just take the rights without taking the responsibilities. If you want big boy rights, you better be prepared to take on big boy responsibilities. Everybody wants freedom until it is time to literally fight for it. I did not see mfs hollering equal rights when it was time to build skyscrapers or time to go to war. They only wanted to be equal when the fun shit was being passed out.

Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it. And you may not like the biproducts or fallout from what you are asking for. You wanted to buy into the delusion that dudes can be women. Well this is what happens when dudes become women; because despite them taking hormones and putting on women's clothing, they are really still dudes and not actually women. You can not hate the player; you have to hate the game.

Go on youtube and watch some of those funny videos of guys manhandling women cops or when it is time to arrest some dude the woman cop jumps on the pile last like she is really doing something. Half the time she will just shoot the guy from the jump as happened in Minnesota and Oklahoma. If there was a police force of all women cops you think that shit would work out?

Next watch some of the videos of transsexuals kicking men's asses the way an actual female could never do. Different sexes are built for different things. America did not want to accept that despite it being plain as day. So IMHO all the selfish assholes should get all the medals and money that they can scoop up. They did not invent the game, they just learned to play it to perfection.

RamDavidson84
05-07-22, 03:49
Yes I condone this. It is simply a matter of getting what you paid for. This is what happens when you refuse to admit that double standards do exist and should exist.

You take the bad with the good. You can't just take the rights without taking the responsibilities. If you want big boy rights, you better be prepared to take on big boy responsibilities. Everybody wants freedom until it is time to literally fight for it. I did not see mfs hollering equal rights when it was time to build skyscrapers or time to go to war. They only wanted to be equal when the fun shit was being passed out.

Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it. And you may not like the biproducts or fallout from what you are asking for. You wanted to buy into the delusion that dudes can be women. Well this is what happens when dudes become women; because despite them taking hormones and putting on women's clothing, they are really still dudes and not actually women. You can not hate the player; you have to hate the game.

Go on youtube and watch some of those funny videos of guys manhandling women cops or when it is time to arrest some dude the woman cop jumps on the pile last like she is really doing something. Half the time she will just shoot the guy from the jump as happened in Minnesota and Oklahoma. If there was a police force of all women cops you think that shit would work out?

Next watch some of the videos of transsexuals kicking men's asses the way an actual female could never do. Different sexes are built for different things. America did not want to accept that despite it being plain as day. So IMHO all the selfish assholes should get all the medals and money that they can scoop up. They did not invent the game, they just learned to play it to perfection.I don't really follow your logic? So because men are allowed to dress like women, men should be allowed to compete in women's athletics' and use their biological advantages to outcompete women and take away their scholarships in college, salaries in professional sports, and greatly limit the opportunity for women to participate in competitive sports in General? I am very lost how you are coming to this conclusion or what point you are trying to make Mr. E?

It appears you arguing that men and women are not physically equal, but because they are unequal, you condone men competing against women because politicians gave them the opportunity and so they should take advantage of it as much as possible at the expense of women because they have not contributed as much t society in terms of construction of infrastructure and serving combat roles in war? You have a very confusing post I can't quite make sense of?

You seem like a guy who is very angry at women for things they cannot control? You seem to understand how unfair it is to force women to compete against men and yet you show no concern for fairness or the rights of women?

Like I said, I am confused by your post and if I interpreted wrong I apologize, it's a unique argument I have not hear before to say the least.

RamDavidson84
05-07-22, 05:43
I'm sorry for intruding on your 'everyone is crazy but me rant' but I don't remember JjBee62 saying that his charitable contribution was in cash for 25% of his income. He is allowed to make charitable contributions with possessions at fair-market value. For example, he could donate: books, clothing, cars, trucks, furniture, appliances and on and on. There are some limits on the amounts he can deduct relative to his AGI (adjusted gross income) but 25% is well within the limits of all the categories. At least that is my recollection.

I realize when he said he made contributions of 25% of his income. That you immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was all in cash. You probably weren't aware of in-kind contributions. A natural mistake for someone who has probably never given anything to anybody in his life.When did I state everyone is crazy but me? I never have, don't put words in my mouth please. Now people who advocate to let men compete in woman's sports, yea they a little whacky in my opinion.

I am going to be honest I don't exactly remember the meaningless banter that JJb69 attacked me for because I advocated that people outside of public employment should not be forced to get vaccines. I also didn't agree with the lockdowns in Austria in which he called me a deranged psycho who should never pretend to know more than the governments imposing these lockdowns even though the vaccines don't prevent transmission. He went ballistic on me and labeled my mind as a "hall of fractured mirrors" LOL, which I found incredibly funny, instead of just trying to engage in a civil intelligent debate which he knew would lose and eventually be proven wrong. Look at how they are now admitted the Johnson and Johnson vaccine was causing blood clots and they will not even administer it to certain populations anymore. He went on a rant and somehow it came up he donates money in cash to fire victims. This is what he said. Go back and look it up, I am way too lazy to do that. He is absolutely allowed to make charitable contributions and I commend for it if he actually does, but unless you are earning a large amount money, donating 25% of your income in cash to fire victims as he stated is a very weird thing to do. Personally I think he is full of shit and he probably dropped some shitty clothes and furniture off at good will store and since he has a low income and he will write it off for taxes and then try to make himself look like a hero who donates 25% of his income. They way he worded it, I think he said he just hands people cash who need it, like people who have their houses burnt down, it sounds like total bullshit to me and if he is doing things like that, its even more pathetic as it just makes him look like a sad desperate lonely old man who has to buy friends.

Most importantly, this is a waste of a post and just meaningless bickering over nothing, why don't you intelligently and civilly discuss issues that actually matter to try and find better ways to solve societies problems rather than just attack anyone who doesn't 100% agree with your political views and policies you support. I suspect as always you won't, and you will just call me crazy and argue blindly against anything I post because you are a miserable troll who doesn't actually care about finding solutions to the problems the world is facing. I am always open to a civil debate if you would like to actually have instead of how much money JBB69 donates to charity.

RamDavidson84
05-07-22, 05:58
It's ridiculously simple. I'm absolutely certain that any average child could understand it. I'm also absolutely certain you can't.

First, the description for children:

When you do your homework, you have to use a pencil. You can't use crayons. The homework you turn in has to be the homework that was assigned. If you are asked to answer "what is 5+3?" Your answer should be 8. If your answer is not 8, it will be marked wrong. Your homework will be checked by the teacher before a grade is assigned. You will not get a good grade unless you complete the homework correctly...I and most of American have lost all respect for the editorial standards of the mainstream media. How many times have they run stories that have proven to be totally false? Kyle Rittenhouse, Nick Sandman, Trump Russia Conspiracy, Trump Impeachment with no evidence, Jussie Smollet, 95% effective vaccines and 1 million deaths after their release, The suppression of the Hunter Biden Laptop and shady business dealing in foreign nations, labeling looters and rioters burning cities down as heroic social justice protesters, the mainstream media with their ethical standards are a fucking joke. They are a biased group of charlatans who race bait and play identity politics and promise government handouts to win elections. Any day of the week, I will trust a show like "Unheard" over Don Lemon and Rachel Maddow and her fake tears.

And is it really necessary to stoop to the level of a child and claim I am video taping someone getting pegged? You just make yourself look silly and people take your posts less seriously. Journalism is dead in the USA and hopefully people like Elon Musk will restore true journalistic integrity which used to be revered in the USA for its high standards and honestly.

RamDavidson84
05-07-22, 06:06
And Musk didn't invent shit. He bought a company that made electric cars. The only thing he might have done is generate enough interest for all of the other car companies, which have had electric cars for at least 50 years, to dust off their designs and start producing them.

That's pretty typical for Ram. One day he's complaining that alternative energy is bringing about the collapse of civilization, the next he's claiming electric cars saved the world.When did I ever say alternative energy is bring the collapse of civilization? Again, please don't act like a Jussie Smollet type liar and stick to the truth at least. As of right now my opinion is that electric cars are the healthiest, cheapest, cleanest, and most reliable source of personal transportation for the foreseeable future. It's probably also why every major manufactured in the USA is releasing more EVs onto the market every year.

Its pretty typical or you to just slander and avoid intelligent because you not capable of defending your arguments. You come off to me as an extremist who just wants to see America burn because you couldn't make it in society and you are probably just a nobody working various dead end jobs.

Mr Enternational
05-07-22, 11:19
I don't really follow your logic? So because men are allowed to dress like women, men should be allowed to compete in women's athletics' and use their biological advantages to outcompete women and take away their scholarships in college, salaries in professional sports, and greatly limit the opportunity for women to participate in competitive sports in General?Because American society is pushing a narrative that people are whatever they feel they are. You do know it is mostly women that are pushing for men who think they are women to be seen as women right? So they are doing this to themselves and to their own detriment. Sometimes you have to let a mf learn the hard way. In these cases dudes that are not women taking the benefits and awards that actual women fought to get, is teaching them a hard lesson.

You can't fault someone for taking advantage of a loophole. When I went to court for custody of my daughter, her mom was getting angry at me for using laws or procedures that I knew about to my advantage. To her it was unfair or whatever, but I was only using the rules that existed for everyone to play by.

You can not get upset for these guys for playing by the rules that are in place. If the speed limit is posted as 65 I am not going to be mad at folks for going 65 and tell they they should really only go 55. The speed limit is set at 65, take full advantage of being able to go 65. In my state they have just made it a law that people can only participate in sports according to their sex at birth by the way.

Zeos1
05-07-22, 11:56
Nuclear bro, got to develop that technology and it won't come at a greater cost than mining for fossil fuels. In a few decades we should have Nuclear Fusion technology which will produce no toxic waste, no air pollution, and produce several times more energy than the current form we have which is Nuclear fission. Again, I am not the expert and if you are really interested in it, you should look it up, it's interesting stuff.I have followed nuclear fusion for around 40 years, and it would be hard to convince me we are closer to a workable nuclear fusion option than 40 years ago.

But current nuclear technology is much improved, and I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, it just costs a lot in terms of resources, energy, and money to build these plants.

I think the handling of carbon should focus on leaning how to live with the effects that we cannot avoid, ie the last 250 years of fossil fuel use, and on sequestration and moving away where economically possible.

When I hear the masses wanting to stop the petrochemical industry tomorrow so there won't be a forest fire next year I come to the conclusion that some education is in order. But of course politics is such that the sky is falling stories get the attention. And fact checking stuff like that gets one labelled as a climate change denier. So the bullshit aspects can't be challenged by anyone.

What science and real scientists actually say (and real scientists in the field that they are speaking about) I think gets lost in the noise.

MarquisdeSade1
05-07-22, 12:52
Yes I condone this. It is simply a matter of getting what you paid for. This is what happens when you refuse to admit that double standards do exist and should exist.

You take the bad with the good. You can't just take the rights without taking the responsibilities. If you want big boy rights, you better be prepared to take on big boy responsibilities. Everybody wants freedom until it is time to literally fight for it. I did not see mfs hollering equal rights when it was time to build skyscrapers or time to go to war. They only wanted to be equal when the fun shit was being passed out.

Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it. And you may not like the biproducts or fallout from what you are asking for. You wanted to buy into the delusion that dudes can be women. Well this is what happens when dudes become women; because despite them taking hormones and putting on women's clothing, they are really still dudes and not actually women. You can not hate the player; you have to hate the game..If there was a police force of all women cops you think that shit would work out?

ROTFLMMFAO.

You can not hate the player; you have to hate the game.

They did not invent the game, they just learned to play it to perfection.

They're just there getting a check, but remember males and females are equal LMAO.

They actually make us all less safe, because for every female cop there is 1 less male that might be of some value when needed.

I want to see some UFC mixed gender matches LOL.

The last thing I want is stoopid c around me with guns, they can't even drive a car or a motorbike safely (at least in Colombia 95% of the females cops I've seen don't have a gun LOL).

If they start shooting, one of us or our loved ones are more likely to be killed than what they needed to hit.

MarquisdeSade1
05-07-22, 13:08
Because American society is pushing a narrative that people are whatever they feel they are. You do know it is mostly women that are pushing for men who think they are women to be seen as women right? So they are doing this to themselves and to their own detriment. Sometimes you have to let a mf learn the hard way. In these cases dudes that are not women taking the benefits and awards that actual women fought to get, is teaching them a hard lesson.

You can't fault someone for taking advantage of a loophole. When I went to court for custody of my daughter, her mom was getting angry at me for using laws or procedures that I knew about to my advantage. To her it was unfair or whatever, but I was only using the rules that existed for everyone to play by.

You can not get upset for these guys for playing by the rules that are in place. If the speed limit is posted as 65 I am not going to be mad at folks for going 65 and tell they they should really only go 55. The speed limit is set at 65, take full advantage of being able to go 65. In my state they have just made it a law that people can only participate in sports acording to their sex at birth by the way.If the speed limit is posted as 65 I am not going to be mad at folks for going 65 and tell they they should really only go 55.

Reminds me of one day on the Autobahn in a taxi, a car blew past us doing probably 150 mph in the left / passing lane and the driver starts yelling and swearing I asked him what's the problem.

He said that asshole is going too fast LOL I asked what's the limit in this area, he said there isn't one.

BTW I want to be listed as a Giraffe on my Birth Cert? Any help anyone?

Fun Luvr
05-07-22, 13:17
I'm sorry for intruding on your 'everyone is crazy but me rant' but I don't remember JjBee62 saying that his charitable contribution was in cash for 25% of his income.

I realize when he said he made contributions of 25% of his income. That you immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was all in cash. You probably weren't aware of in-kind contributions. A natural mistake for someone who has probably never given anything to anybody in his life.You should look at post #3071 by JjBee62. "Last year my cash donations came up to almost 25% of my income (and none of that went to a church or other non-profit group)." Looks like you are the one who jumped to a conclusion.

RamDavidson84
05-07-22, 15:41
Because American society is pushing a narrative that people are whatever they feel they are. You do know it is mostly women that are pushing for men who think they are women to be seen as women right? So they are doing this to themselves and to their own detriment. Sometimes you have to let a mf learn the hard way. In these cases dudes that are not women taking the benefits and awards that actual women fought to get, is teaching them a hard lesson.

You can't fault someone for taking advantage of a loophole. When I went to court for custody of my daughter, her mom was getting angry at me for using laws or procedures that I knew about to my advantage. To her it was unfair or whatever, but I was only using the rules that existed for everyone to play by..Haha I see what you are saying and there is a part of me that kind of agrees with you, but I participated and coached in a sport for a very long time and its something which hits home for me because I saw a lot guys not achieve their goals and make it to the levels they thought they were going to go. It really fucked with them and changed them a little bit by not hitting those goals as a competitive athlete. I just could never condone letting cheating men take those opportunities away female athletes and have them lose out on the dreams they have drained their whole lives for. It really pisses me off, on the other hand yes their is a large female contingent who are proponents of the policies which allow men to compete against women in the first place and there would be a degree of satisfaction I would feel to watch these she / men crush every record, win every event, and clearly prove the point that there is a fucking reason in the first place that we have men's and women's divisions. I am not that vindictive, so for me personally I'll just oppose letting men compete in women's sports. Your take on it would be funny to watch though LOL.

And on a tangent side note: Women make up 50% of our nation's work force, their tax dollars count just as much as a man's and so it's important to give them as much opportunity as possible to allow them to make the most of themselves. Our nation is also no longer based on agriculture or manufacturing as much as it is the service industry and tech industries / information processing which women maybe even have an advantage in due to their maternal instincts which allow them to achieve a higher social intelligence on average. They can more easily deal with people in a compliant effective manner in team settings and taking their ego out of the equation. I have noticed a lot of men have more difficulty with this as their ego gets in the way when they serve non-leadership roles and this leads to a less effective worker. The nation's who we are economically competing with have all realized the more money women earn and the harder they work, the stronger their nation's economy becomes and this is one of the reasons why they have embraced policies which promote women having the exact same opportunities in occupations traditionally held by men. America, to stay competitive with other leading nations, also needs to have a strong, educated, effective female work force. That doesn't mean force women into construction where they will won't be best utilized, or force them in combat roles on the battlefield when a male soldier would be more effective. It just means we have to face reality and come together to create more economic opportunities which plays to female strengths. Just my opinion and feel free to criticize as its not something based on a lot of research, just on my opinion on things I have seen in everyday life.

RamDavidson84
05-07-22, 15:54
I have followed nuclear fusion for around 40 years, and it would be hard to convince me we are closer to a workable nuclear fusion option than 40 years ago.

But current nuclear technology is much improved, and I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, it just costs a lot in terms of resources, energy, and money to build these plants.

I think the handling of carbon should focus on leaning how to live with the effects that we cannot avoid, ie the last 250 years of fossil fuel use, and on sequestration and moving away where economically possible.

When I hear the masses wanting to stop the petrochemical industry tomorrow so there won't be a forest fire next year I come to the conclusion that some education is in order. But of course politics is such that the sky is falling stories get the attention. And fact checking stuff like that gets one labelled as a climate change denier. So the bullshit aspects can't be challenged by anyone.

What science and real scientists actually say (and real scientists in the field that they are speaking about) I think gets lost in the noise.Like I said, I am absolutely not an expert in this stuff. I actually do have a friend who is an engineer at the Nuclear Power Plant near Scranton PA. He's a very intelligent guy, spent his youth in the navy working on a nuclear submarine. He said we are close to fission technology, when you split the atoms instead of fusing them, it's a cleaner process which creates far more energy and these are the technologies we should should be investing in. He and I agree with you, We still need to use fossil fuels when necessary, but the writing is on the wall, we need to start preparing for when the scarcity of fossil fuels drives the price up so high it is no longer even remotely affordable. He was furious with Biden when they closed the construction of the oil pipeline from Canada, he said it takes 12 years to plan the construction, receive the zoning permits, allocate the funds, etc, and they had done everything every step of the way and were ready for construction and Biden due to pressure from environmental groups just called it off and wasted all the time and resources which went into planning such a massive project and would have lead to a higher degree of energy independence for the USA. I am not blind to the fact that we are still living in a society which runs off fossil fuels, I am just saying developing the technology of Electric Automobiles and the Nuclear Power plants to provide the energy seems to be the most logical thing to do at the moment. We still need to drill up all that black gold though baby! Can't let those precious dollars go to waste haha.

RamDavidson84
05-07-22, 16:26
And Musk didn't invent shit. He bought a company that made electric cars. The only thing he might have done is generate enough interest for all of the other car companies, which have had electric cars for at least 50 years, to dust off their designs and start producing them.

That's pretty typical for Ram. One day he's complaining that alternative energy is bringing about the collapse of civilization, the next he's claiming electric cars saved the world.Guys, look I can be a dick and there really is no need to constantly be at each other's throat because we have very different views. I'll admit I was poking the bear with the JJb69 donating his money stuff and Osteo being a very complex individual when it comes to his sexuality and choice of drug use. No one is perfect, and I am the furthest thing from it.

To be fair though, I never claimed or believed that alternative energy had any negative impact on society. I would just state we need to do it as efficiently as possible while also not destroying the oil industry and hurting the American economy and workforce in the process. I was not a fan of Biden stopping the construction of the oil pipeline and wasting millions of dollars in planning and thousands of Americans losing their jobs they had lined up building the pipeline.

Elon Musk is the richest man on the Planet out of 7 billion people, he is a special unique individual with a track record of success which is rivaled by just a hand full of people in history. This is undeniable truth. I believe it shows bias to diminish his accomplishments because you are not in favor of his take over of Twitter because he has openly advocated for increasing Twitter's role in defending Free Speech. There is currently a slander campaign occurring against him where people are going all the way back to his days as a child in grade school to see if they can dig up any dirt on him to assassinate his character, just like they did to Brett Kavanaugh. I don't agree with this type of behavior, however I respectfully allow anyone to disagree and argue their point against it. Let's just keep the lies, slander, and insults out of it.

Stick to the policy.

JjBee62
05-07-22, 17:48
I have followed nuclear fusion for around 40 years, and it would be hard to convince me we are closer to a workable nuclear fusion option than 40 years ago.

But current nuclear technology is much improved, and I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, it just costs a lot in terms of resources, energy, and money to build these plants.

I think the handling of carbon should focus on leaning how to live with the effects that we cannot avoid, ie the last 250 years of fossil fuel use, and on sequestration and moving away where economically possible.

When I hear the masses wanting to stop the petrochemical industry tomorrow so there won't be a forest fire next year I come to the conclusion that some education is in order. But of course politics is such that the sky is falling stories get the attention. And fact checking stuff like that gets one labelled as a climate change denier. So the bullshit aspects can't be challenged by anyone.

What science and real scientists actually say (and real scientists in the field that they are speaking about) I think gets lost in the noise.I actually am, or was, an expert on nuclear fission. There are a few big problems with it, which will never go away. First, when done right it's safer than fossil fuel power production, but done right means reducing profit margins. Then there's always the waste issue, which most people haven't a clue about. Radioactive waste with extremely long half-life isn't a problem. It's the stuff with the short half-life that's the problem.

Then there's the public relations issue, which when combined with regulations makes nuclear fission not a good investment for the bankers.

You're probably right about fusion technology. I worked with the High Energy Physics group at Sandia National Labs (just computer programming and tech support) and progress is slow.

RamDavidson84
05-07-22, 17:55
Like I said, I am absolutely not an expert in this stuff. I actually do have a friend who is an engineer at the Nuclear Power Plant near Scranton PA. He's a very intelligent guy, spent his youth in the navy working on a nuclear submarine. He said we are close to fission technology, when you split the atoms instead of fusing them, it's a cleaner process which creates far more energy and these are the technologies we should should be investing in. He and I agree with you, We still need to use fossil fuels when necessary, but the writing is on the wall, we need to start preparing for when the scarcity of fossil fuels drives the price up so high it is no longer even remotely affordable. He was furious with Biden when they closed the construction of the oil pipeline from Canada, he said it takes 12 years to plan the construction, receive the zoning permits, allocate the funds, etc, and they had done everything every step of the way and were ready for construction and Biden due to pressure from environmental groups just called it off and wasted all the time and resources which went into planning such a massive project and would have lead to a higher degree of energy independence for the USA. I am not blind to the fact that we are still living in a society which runs off fossil fuels, I am just saying developing the technology of Electric Automobiles and the Nuclear Power plants to provide the energy seems to be the most logical thing to do at the moment. We still need to drill up all that black gold though baby! Can't let those precious dollars go to waste haha.I confused fusion with fission in this post, sorry about that, like I said, def not the expert.

Villainy
05-07-22, 17:56
You should look at post #3071 by JjBee62. "Last year my cash donations came up to almost 25% of my income (and none of that went to a church or other non-profit group)." Looks like you are the one who jumped to a conclusion.My apologies to Ram. I should have been more thorough and searched for the original comment. As Dik Luvr did. He did say "cash contributions".

JjBee62
05-07-22, 17:59
You should look at post #3071 by JjBee62. "Last year my cash donations came up to almost 25% of my income (and none of that went to a church or other non-profit group)." Looks like you are the one who jumped to a conclusion.I'm amazed at your devotion to me. I'm not going to go dig it up, but that sounds like what I would have written. Now do you believe, when pulling someone's string on this thread, that I went back, recalled everything over the previous year, dug up my tax returns, correctly remembered a whole bunch of things which there are no receipts for, or that I did what everyone else does, grab a number, throw it out and move on?

Remember, 87% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

The point wasn't that I give freely where I feel it's deserved. The point was that Ram was bashing someone because he assumed they contribute nothing, then he was trying to bash me because I do contribute, when the truth, which he stated, is that he gives nothing, so was never in a position to attack someone else for doing the same.

Have fun with it. If you want some of my personal items to add to the shrine you appear to have erected in my honor, just ask.

RamDavidson84
05-07-22, 20:31
I actually am, or was, an expert on nuclear fission. There are a few big problems with it, which will never go away. First, when done right it's safer than fossil fuel power production, but done right means reducing profit margins. Then there's always the waste issue, which most people haven't a clue about. Radioactive waste with extremely long half-life isn't a problem. It's the stuff with the short half-life that's the problem.

Then there's the public relations issue, which when combined with regulations makes nuclear fission not a good investment for the bankers.

You're probably right about fusion technology. I worked with the High Energy Physics group at Sandia National Labs (just computer programming and tech support) and progress is slow.I was told by my friend who works at the plant as an engineer that all the nuclear waste produced by Nuclear power plants since they have been running can fit inside a ware house the size of a football field or maybe football stadium. He also said less than 1% of that waste is the waste which is really harmful to humans and it will remain harmful for thousands of years. The other 99% actually isn't that harmful as long as its not in your drinking water or something along those lines. He did mention public relations was a nightmare because communities do not want to be located near Nuclear power plants, and he claimed they are 100% safe, of course we all know of three mile island and Chernoberyl so that's not 100% true. He also claimed among the renewable resources it was the most profitable.

Just curious, when you say you are an expert, what exactly qualifies you to claim you are an expert in Nuclear Fission, that seems like a very complex area to be an expert which would require very extensive academic and career credentials to qualify as an expert in?

RamDavidson84
05-07-22, 20:40
I'm amazed at your devotion to me. I'm not going to go dig it up, but that sounds like what I would have written. Now do you believe, when pulling someone's string on this thread, that I went back, recalled everything over the previous year, dug up my tax returns, correctly remembered a whole bunch of things which there are no receipts for, or that I did what everyone else does, grab a number, throw it out and move on?

Remember, 87% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

The point wasn't that I give freely where I feel it's deserved. The point was that Ram was bashing someone because he assumed they contribute nothing, then he was trying to bash me because I do contribute, when the truth, which he stated, is that he gives nothing, so was never in a position to attack someone else for doing the same.

Have fun with it. If you want some of my personal items to add to the shrine you appear to have erected in my honor, just ask.It's true, I do not donate to charity. What you have left out though, is through my employment which is a very difficult career, I contribute to my community on a daily basis and there are not many people who could perform my occupation effectively. I also stated, in my youth when I had more time and energy I often contributed in various ways to my community without any financial compensation. Now with all the bills and responsibilities that I have, I cannot afford to donate my time or money as much as I used to. Since we are on the subject, Let us clear the air, do you donate cash to fire victims? If you do, I commend you and I should have not labeled that a negative trait which you possess. If you donate 25% of you income to charity, that's a good thing that you do and I shouldn't have jumped on your case about it.

RamDavidson84
05-07-22, 20:41
My apologies to Ram. I should have been more thorough and searched for the original comment. As Dik Luvr did. He did say "cash contributions".LOL, no you should not have because things do not need to get that serious that we are going back months to look up posts to win petty arguments, it's all good brother.

Above Average
05-07-22, 21:13
So I guess I'm an idiot because when I get off the plane at the airport and all those taxis guys start mobbing me I actually give in to them sometimes. On two occasions I've done this and both times they brought me back to an unmarked car and I'm too chickenshit to back out at that point.

The first time I got into a car with two guys and was freaking out the whole time thinking I was about to lose all my luggage and everything but instead they just convinced me to buy some overpriced weed.

The second time I did this ended up paying 50 k pesos for a 5 minute ride. It was a rip off but I was exhausted and just wanted to get into my hotel bed. The next morning I couldn't find my phone and I started freaking out until somebody knocked on my door and it the driver from last night who brought back my phone! I have him some more pesos and thanked him profusely.

I feel like if I don't smarten up I'm going to get mugged or abducted but so far the people of Colombia have not let me down.

How dangerous do you guys think it is to get into an unmarked car with a guy who isn't doing Uber or Didi? Am I lucky to be alive or am I just being paranoid?

JjBee62
05-08-22, 00:03
Because American society is pushing a narrative that people are whatever they feel they are. You do know it is mostly women that are pushing for men who think they are women to be seen as women right? So they are doing this to themselves and to their own detriment. Sometimes you have to let a mf learn the hard way. In these cases dudes that are not women taking the benefits and awards that actual women fought to get, is teaching them a hard lesson.

You can't fault someone for taking advantage of a loophole. When I went to court for custody of my daughter, her mom was getting angry at me for using laws or procedures that I knew about to my advantage. To her it was unfair or whatever, but I was only using the rules that existed for everyone to play by.

You can not get upset for these guys for playing by the rules that are in place. If the speed limit is posted as 65 I am not going to be mad at folks for going 65 and tell they they should really only go 55. The speed limit is set at 65, take full advantage of being able to go 65. In my state they have just made it a law that people can only participate in sports acording to their sex at birth by the way.I'm trying to figure out where are all these trans athletes who are completely dominating their sport. There's one swimmer, who during 1 year, while still undergoing hormone therapy, was dominant. Now that the hormone therapy is complete and her testosterone levels are the same as any woman she's not even close to being the top female swimmer.

It all started 50 years ago with Renee Richard's, who, when finally allowed to compete in the US Open, as a woman, got knocked out in the first round. There is a transition period, when they still have male hormone levels, when there is an unfair advantage. However, the competition rules require them to continue hormone therapy until their testosterone level is the in the normal female range. Once that happens the advantage goes away.

Which brings up another issue. In most sports the unfair advantage comes from higher testosterone levels. There are women who, although they were born with all of the standard issue female parts, have male testosterone levels. I know of one right here in Medellin, she plays soccer and has thighs like Earl Campbell.

Sexual alignment isn't an either-or thing. Normally, during pregnancy, the embryo is not male or female until about a third of the way through. In rare cases some are born female and actually grow a penis during puberty. There are many different things which go into gender.

I'll tell you what. Show me one trans athlete who manages to dominate her sport the way Michael Phelps dominated his and I'll accept the "unfair advantage" or "taking advantage of the rules" argument.

JjBee62
05-08-22, 00:27
Because American society is pushing a narrative that people are whatever they feel they are. You do know it is mostly women that are pushing for men who think they are women to be seen as women right? So they are doing this to themselves and to their own detriment. Sometimes you have to let a mf learn the hard way. In these cases dudes that are not women taking the benefits and awards that actual women fought to get, is teaching them a hard lesson.

You can't fault someone for taking advantage of a loophole. When I went to court for custody of my daughter, her mom was getting angry at me for using laws or procedures that I knew about to my advantage. To her it was unfair or whatever, but I was only using the rules that existed for everyone to play by.

You can not get upset for these guys for playing by the rules that are in place. If the speed limit is posted as 65 I am not going to be mad at folks for going 65 and tell they they should really only go 55. The speed limit is set at 65, take full advantage of being able to go 65. In my state they have just made it a law that people can only participate in sports acording to their sex at birth by the way.I did forget one thing. There was the high school wrestler in Texas, wrestling against girls, who went undefeated and won the state championship. Definitely an unfair advantage. However, because she was born female and was transitioning to male, state rules required him to compete against the girls. He, she, whatever wanted to wrestle on the boys team, but that "whatever you're born with, is what you are" thinking meant that a boy, in almost every way, was required to wrestle against girls who didn't stand a chance.

Same thing happened when I was in high school. One of the girls in my class muscled up quicker than any of the boys. She played basketball, volleyball, track and softball and was much better than any of the other girls. If they had done hormone testing back then she probably would have had male testosterone levels. Wasn't really fair to all the other girls.

Osteoknot
05-08-22, 01:17
So I guess I'm an idiot. Am I lucky to be alive?You should stick to the white airport cabs, because it's the status quo and more predictable. As I posted before I have gotten in every colored car there is from the airport but they all had some kind of paperwork or license on a clipboard, probably meaningless. I negotiate price before I get in. I have good intuition that has never let me down, but I wouldn't get into any vehicle if I felt a bad vibe.

I was going to try reserving an airport taxi thru this link posted here recently https://acoataxiaeropuerto.com.co/ that everyone agrees sounds great idea yet no one has posted yet that they actually tried it.

But when I booked my flight on CheapOAir, they included a free taxi ride which has never happened before. I had to fill in some blanks which strangely kept defaulting to the municipal Medellin airport in town, but after a few tries I have a printed invoice that lists a dude will meet me at the airport holding a card with my name on it (Church Lady, "Isn't that special?) and a free ride to the front door of my hotel. According to the paperwork, my ride will be provided by "My Transfer Group". I will report back later on that.

Nice you got your phone back. Guess that ride ended up being worth much, much more than you overpaid. Appropriate and nice of you to give the driver "some" pesos for hand-delivering your cell phone the next day at your hotel. Stay safe and Keep On Keepin' On.

Paulie97
05-08-22, 01:27
It's true, I do not donate to charity. What you have left out though, is through my employment which is a very difficult career, I contribute to my community on a daily basis and there are not many people who could perform my occupation effectively..I would take issue with this, as there certainly are a whole lot of people that could perform your occupation effectively given the opportunity and the proper training. Because I mean seriously, given your political analysis, calling yourself a "conservative" when you are a cyberspace blog wingnut, we are talking about an IQ in at most the 100 range, and that's generous. You could scarf up many who are asking dollars in front of Dollar General or your "Will Work for Food" culture and they'd fit the bill. Certainly there is nothing "difficult" about your "career," that you've already admitted doesn't require higher education, nor does your confession to never donate to charity speak much to your character. As to you trying to win "petty arguments," well you dig in your heels here with the best of them typing out War and Peace, so pot calling the kettle black on that count. LOL.

Paulie97
05-08-22, 02:43
I did forget one thing. There was the high school wrestler in Texas, wrestling against girls, who went undefeated and won the state championship. Definitely an unfair advantage. However, because she was born female and was transitioning to male, state rules required him to compete against the girls. He, she, whatever wanted to wrestle on the boys team, but that "whatever you're born with, is what you are" thinking meant that a boy, in almost every way, was required to wrestle against girls who didn't stand a chance.

Same thing happened when I was in high school. One of the girls in my class muscled up quicker than any of the boys. She played basketball, volleyball, track and softball and was much better than any of the other girls. If they had done hormone testing back then she probably would have had male testosterone levels. Wasn't really fair to all the other girls.You can sing and dance all you want on this one but it's plainly ridiculous as males have strength advantages, as well as less instances of injuries. Your analogy of females attempting to be male, theoretically but never actually, to male transitioning to female is a fake one. The latter is typically enjoying a lot of strength of advantages along the way while never reaching the destination (XX versus XY). Best to abandon this one and join me and most Americans in the moderate camp, as the far left is just as much of an annoyance in our society as the far right. So in the end, we have have anecdotes, quite possibly straight out of your posterior coupled with fake analogies. That's a double. Again, congratulations. Wink.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

https://fallacyinlogic.com/false-analogy-definition-and-examples/

RamDavidson84
05-08-22, 07:56
I would take issue with this, as there certainly are a whole lot of people that could perform your occupation effectively given the opportunity and the proper training. Because I mean seriously, given your political analysis, calling yourself a "conservative" when you are a cyberspace blog wingnut, we are talking about an IQ in at most the 100 range, and that's generous. You could scarf up many who are asking dollars in front of Dollar General or your "Will Work for Food" culture and they'd fit the bill. Certainly there is nothing "difficult" about your "career," that you've already admitted doesn't require higher education, nor does your confession to never donate to charity speak much to your character. As to you trying to win "petty arguments," well you dig in your heels here with the best of them typing out War and Peace, so pot calling the kettle black on that count. LOL.Haha normally I would respond with some venom, but I won 4 k on Bivol tonight, so I'll let this slide. Pauly97, in all honesty I am no one and nothing special, but trust me when I tell you, few could have walked my path and still ended up where I am. But again, I am just some guy in a forum so who cares LOL.

RamDavidson84
05-08-22, 08:07
I did forget one thing. There was the high school wrestler in Texas, wrestling against girls, who went undefeated and won the state championship. Definitely an unfair advantage. However, because she was born female and was transitioning to male, state rules required him to compete against the girls. He, she, whatever wanted to wrestle on the boys team, but that "whatever you're born with, is what you are" thinking meant that a boy, in almost every way, was required to wrestle against girls who didn't stand a chance.

Same thing happened when I was in high school. One of the girls in my class muscled up quicker than any of the boys. She played basketball, volleyball, track and softball and was much better than any of the other girls. If they had done hormone testing back then she probably would have had male testosterone levels. Wasn't really fair to all the other girls.Yes, 100% correct. A small percentage of women are as or more athletic than men, but that still does not give men the right to use their biological advantages against women and steal the cash, glory, and opportunity from them because on average, men are more athletic than women. This is just how humans have evolved. Women on average are more socially intelligent than men and better in social situations, that is there "strength." Men on average have more physical ability and can focus in and master a particular skill better than women, that is their "strength". Just because an extremely athletic women can defeat an average man in a wrestling match, doesn't mean we should let men compete against women in wrestling. As a life long athlete and coach, I can easily weigh in on this subject, a very athletic female who is experienced in a particular sport will always outperform an unexperienced average male. But when experience and athleticism are equal among a male and female athlete, the women will always lose. It's not fair to make women compete against men.

Nounce
05-08-22, 10:48
I called you out once before for being too magnanimous. Will you please despise someone? I will volunteer for the position if I can just get you to say something bad about someone here. Gawd knows, there's no shortage of eligible candidates.

I try to generally follow suit and ignore or not engage the trolls, but you take it to another level. You actively try to make peace. You're really starting to bug me.

You are too comfortable and that annoys me but I don't know why, jajaja.

Jajajajaja, Ostee Out and Keep On Keepin' On like you always do. If everyone did, the world would be a better place.Haha, I don't know who you meant by that. The ideology side of most people is difficult to debate against. The non ideology side is reasonable and helpful from my observation. I just choose to understand what he meant and hoping he can quantify it. Now I see there maybe a big emotional component of it which is difficult to quantify.

Usually there is a gap in internet discussion. I remember they have met and that is why.

Nounce
05-08-22, 11:04
...Elon decides Twitter is biased and is not upholding the true values of Free Speech and puts up 44 Billion of his own money to buy Twitter in order to restore balance to politics. Personally for me anyway, when I witness a man as successful and intelligent as Elon Musk state there is not only evidence to support the fact that Twitter suppresses Free Speech....I will be even more impressed when he speaks freely and be consistent on things related to Tesla's operation in China to Chinese government. Don't forget that he can make a lot of money from this too. I don't think he has said he will make it better even if it does not make money. It's complicated to analyze his intention because there are well established people think he is playing with monopoly money.

JustTK
05-08-22, 13:38
Do we all remember Brian Eno?

What a superb discussion with him here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-UKaPyMsbE

I rank him at the top of the music world with Roger Waters in terms of awareness.

What an educated and enlightened man he has turned in to. Now let's see those that do not agree with him try to slur him as "woke, anti-senite". This is the pathetic, polarised world we live in.

Paulie97
05-08-22, 15:12
Healthy societies should be able to have these discussions without attacking each other and labeling them racist bigots as liberal media has now done to Elon Musk. They are opening claiming he trying to bring back the policies of South African Apartheid. To me, that's vile unnecessary mud-racking.Save it. LOL If you are so concerned about "health" and baised, lying bitter media then where is your outrage for Tucker Carlson's sucking up to Putin, and other constant lies from that realm, some of which are clearly treasonous. If you have outrage there's plenty of opportunity to spread it around.


When Trump won his election in 2016, there was a massive investigation and media campaign which accused him of conspiring with Russia to steal the Election. Republicans allowed a comprehensive government led investigation into whether there were any truth to these claims. I personally never believed he did conspire with RussiaYou are parroting right wing media. Why all the lying from Trump associates and cronies regarding contact with Russian agents if nothing was going on? Why all the constant, off the cuff pardons? Given the proof beyond a reasonable doubt standard, the US is full of cases they don't go to trial where parties are likely guilty. Trump was never exonerated, as he and his followers like to claim. Mueller was clear on that point. In any case we got him out of the WH. In spite all the violence and coup attempts, our system held up. Have a read. The Manafort pardon is rather telling.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/548794-there-was-trump-russia-collusion-and-trump-pardoned-the-colluder/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/19/yes-there-was-collusion/

P.S. If you want useful responses quit the barstool filibustering with these walls of texts. Make your point in a hurry and move on to the next one.

RamDavidson84
05-08-22, 16:11
I will be even more impressed when he speaks freely and be consistent on things related to Tesla's operation in China to Chinese government. Don't forget that he can make a lot of money from this too. I don't think he has said he will make it better even if it does not make money. It's complicated to analyze his intention because there are well established people think he is playing with monopoly money.I am just basing this off watching some of his interviews and reading the headlines, but Musk is a very strong proponent of Free Market Capitalism and the Private Sector playing a larger role in Society. He has stated this in numerous interviews. He was also furious with the government of California for temporarily shutting down his Tesla factory during the Pandemic to the point he moved a large part of his operations to Texas. I think the government regulations really cut into profits, and he may be justified in his argument that there was an unnecessary over reach of government regulation which hindered his progress and in general is an unnecessary hinderance on many big time capitalists. I think he saw how social media was used to not just shut his business down, but businesses down around the globe. I think this was the turning point for him and in his view, the liberal media needed more balance because its' bias was a detriment to society. Again, in his view, he's killing two birds with one stone. 1. he's investing in an incredibly profitable company such as Twitter and he's going to make it better and more profitable. 2. he's going to bring more political balance, increase free speech, and bring more trust back to his media platform. He's going to attempt to create a more balanced Twitter for society, so the next time there is a Pandemic or an important issue, we all have a trusted media platform we can trust and together people can freely exchange ideas to find the best possible solution to the particular problem presented to society.

I am not very familiar with his business dealings in China, and I haven't heard him speak specifically on how he deals with the the Chinese Market. My guess is, he is a "profits first" type of guy like most big time capitalists who have billions invested in their company and tens of thousands of employees who rely on him to keep the company running.

It is without a doubt a complicated situation and to fully understand it is far above my pay-grade LOL. I am rooting for free speech and a trusted media platform though. We'll see what happens though.

RamDavidson84
05-08-22, 16:22
I would take issue with this, as there certainly are a whole lot of people that could perform your occupation effectively given the opportunity and the proper training. Because I mean seriously, given your political analysis, calling yourself a "conservative" when you are a cyberspace blog wingnut, we are talking about an IQ in at most the 100 range, and that's generous. You could scarf up many who are asking dollars in front of Dollar General or your "Will Work for Food" culture and they'd fit the bill. Certainly there is nothing "difficult" about your "career," that you've already admitted doesn't require higher education, nor does your confession to never donate to charity speak much to your character. As to you trying to win "petty arguments," well you dig in your heels here with the best of them typing out War and Peace, so pot calling the kettle black on that count. LOL.I didn't see you brought I. Q. Into this conversation. The last IQ I had done came back at 163, but I have hit over 170 several times. We actually get tested quarterly at work to ensure our cognitive abilities stay consistent to perform the job. We get tested at the same facility as the NFL combine athletes. Our Administration informs us that we must be at least on par with see. I. A. Agents in terms of our cognitive abilities. We also spend 36 hours every month at the Harvard based think tank to discuss new emerging technologies and how they will revolutionize society. And finally we also have to fly to Houston to monitor NASA's progress at the end of each 3rd moon phase. It gets really annoying to have to track the moon phases to be ready for those NASA guys, some of them are real assholes when you have to point out their mistakes to them. Lololol.

JjBee62
05-08-22, 16:31
You can sing and dance all you want on this one but it's plainly ridiculous as males have strength advantages, as well as less instances of injuries. Your analogy of females attempting to be male, theoretically but never actually, to male transitioning to female is a fake one. The latter is typically enjoying a lot of strength of advantages along the way while never reaching the destination (XX versus XY). Best to abandon this one and join me and most Americans in the moderate camp, as the far left is just as much of an annoyance in our society as the far right. So in the end, we have have anecdotes, quite possibly straight out of your posterior coupled with fake analogies. That's a double. Again, congratulations. Wink.With very few exceptions, strength is not the main component in any sport. I played a lot of sports in my younger days and I can't think of one where the best are the strongest, except for a few reasonably minor sports. Even powerlifting has as much to do with form as muscle mass. Most team sports, if you load the team based solely on strength, you'll lose.

With repetitive motion sports, especially those which require endurance, muscle mass is a disadvantage. How many top soccer players are built like American football offensive linemen? How many swimmers? How about tennis players? Put 325# Larry Allen, Offensive Guard in the NFL (who could bench press over 700#) on the tennis court, give him the best coaches, train him for 5 years and any decent high school player could beat him in straight sets.

Pick one, just one, pick one trans athlete who has managed to dominate their sport. I'm not talking about one event, or one season, I'm talking household name. I used the example of Michael Phelps. Instead I could have said Michael Jordan, Hank Aaron, Tiger Woods, Serena Williams, Megan Rapinoe, Jeff Gordon. Show me a trans athlete who, I'll make it easy, for 3 consecutive years has been considered the best in their sport.

There's nothing far left in anything I've written on this subject. Two people made assertions. One person is a complete nutcase, but there's no sense in discussing mental health issues with you. The assertion is simple: trans athletes (male to female) have an unfair advantage over female athletes. I'm asking for proof. Is asking for proof political? Are your politics now based upon avoiding proof of any assertions?

If that's the case, we're at an impasse. I'm easy to please. If you say something is true, show me and I'll be suitably impressed. If you instead argue that you don't need to show me examples or evidence to support your claims, because my politics are wrong (isn't there a logical fallacy covered by that), I'm not going to instead switch to a discussion about changing my political views (I'm sure that's a logical fallacy) and forget about the support for your claims I've requested.

I'm sure this is another logical fallacy, but since we both seem to be embracing logical fallacy, what hell.

Let's say you tell me "I can drink whiskey (spiked with scopolamine and I'll be fine. I won't end up passed out and robbed and waking up in a hospital 14 hours later, arguing that the medical bill is too high. " I'd reply "prove it." Keeping with your post, your next reply would be to launch into a discussion about logical fallacies and my politics. Call up your friend, the Colombian one, and we can all drink and discuss it.

So, here are a couple of options. You could turn this into another little word battle and you know what always happens when you do that. Alternatively, you can show me one trans athlete who has managed to compete at the top of a sport for 3 years.

Another option, which is my recommendation, find another passion that doesn't involve me. Surely, with all of the time you've spent in Medellin, all those trips, experiences, you could be posting useful information, answering questions and giving advice. But you don't do that. Almost the every time you post in a useful thread, it's to try and score points against me. All because, nearly 5 years ago I pointed out to you that getting stuck in a long, unmoving line at Exito is a normal experience in Medellin. It's not something to throw a tantrum over.

The bad news is, I'm not keeping score. There's no trophy. I'm not getting another big pay raise because of what I post on ISG. Other than killing time when I'm feeling lazy and satisfying my writing urges, the only things I get from posting here are friends. I spent most of yesterday just enjoying being in Medellin with friends I've met through ISG. Medellin is a great place. It's cheap, comfortable and there's all the women most men could ever want. However, for me, without all the friends, it's just another city.

FlappyGilmore
05-08-22, 17:48
I know very little about what the Israelis and Palestinians are fighting about and learning from an un biased POV is nearly impossible. Let my Jewish friends tell it, the Palestinians are savage unibombers. Let my Arab friends tell it the Jews are Trump loving baby killers. I always figured the truth was somewhere in the middle but it's insane to me how similar these two groups are people are in looks, action, and faith yet they are at each other's throats.


Do we all remember Brian Eno?

What a superb discussion with him here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-UKaPyMsbE

I rank him at the top of the music world with Roger Waters in terms of awareness.

What an educated and enlightened man he has turned in to. Now let's see those that do not agree with him try to slur him as "woke, anti-senite". This is the pathetic, polarised world we live in.

FlappyGilmore
05-08-22, 17:51
Sorry bud, but it's the truth. Why would you do that more than once? They have perfectly normal taxis or you can grab an Uber.

They could steal your luggage and then your whole trip is ruined. Why risk that when you have other options?


So I guess I'm an idiot because when I get off the plane at the airport and all those taxis guys start mobbing me I actually give in to them sometimes. On two occasions I've done this and both times they brought me back to an unmarked car and I'm too chickenshit to back out at that point.

The first time I got into a car with two guys and was freaking out the whole time thinking I was about to lose all my luggage and everything but instead they just convinced me to buy some overpriced weed.

The second time I did this ended up paying 50 k pesos for a 5 minute ride. It was a rip off but I was exhausted and just wanted to get into my hotel bed. The next morning I couldn't find my phone and I started freaking out until somebody knocked on my door and it the driver from last night who brought back my phone! I have him some more pesos and thanked him profusely.

JjBee62
05-08-22, 19:49
Do we all remember Brian Eno?

What a superb discussion with him here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-UKaPyMsbE

I rank him at the top of the music world with Roger Waters in terms of awareness.

What an educated and enlightened man he has turned in to. Now let's see those that do not agree with him try to slur him as "woke, anti-senite". This is the pathetic, polarised world we live in.This is better. YouTube is an entertainment platform and music is entertainment. Also, I remember Brian Eno and many others. I appreciate the musicians for the music, not for their views on a particular subject. Their views might align with mine, or not. Unless I find their views particularly repugnant, it doesn't affect my appreciation of the music.

However, outside of music, their views, with the rare exception of musicians who are recognized experts in a field unrelated to music, are no more important than any other person's views.

Judging by your post and Flappy's reply, it could be that my views might well align with Eno. But where does that get us? I see no indication that the Israel-Palestine conflict will be resolved in my lifetime, certainly not in any way agreeable to all parties.

Elvis 2008
05-08-22, 20:09
I like the table here with regards to death and the vaccines: https://brownstone.org/articles/have-people-been-given-the-wrong-vaccine/.

As for the peer reviewed part, Some may criticize the Danish study for not yet being peer-reviewed, but it has been. It was peer-reviewed by me and several colleagues, and all of us have decades of experience with these types of studies. That it has not yet been peer-reviewed by anonymous journal reviewers is inconsequential.

There seems to be three parts to publishing. A pre-print is released like what we see here, then the anonymous peer review process, and then the publishing itself. I have been finishing the book "What really happened in Wuhan" and when data supportive of the lab leak theory became available, that information was held from even prepublishing until around April 2021. So the people who like to point to "anonymous" peer review as the gold standard would like us to pretend that science is above politics when clearly it is not and with Covid really never has been.

As far as the data goes, it always amazes me how so few numbers are needed to sway things in a prevention study. Adenovirus vaccine arm had 16/72000 deaths compared to control of 30/50,000. MRNA had 31/37000 versus control of 30/37000.

The problem with any of this data is that it is out of date as soon as it is published. The vaccines were amazing against the variant present when they first came out. Then delta showed even less protection and omicron less still.

So you can check for antibodies from the vaccine and antibodies from the virus and monoclonal antibodies can also be made. Thing most people do not get is there are limits on what the body can produce, and I think something most people do not get is the Biden administration pulled most monoclonal antibodies with omicron because most monoclonal antibodies did not work with Omicron.

So if monoclonal antibodies worked with beta and delta and the vaccine did as well, and you are pulling most monoclonal antibodies, why would you not pull the vaccines too?

Vaccine manufacturers tried to reconfigure the vaccine for omicron, and it did not work that well, and most importantly, they did not have to do any safety trials nor even prove the new fangled vaccine was effective.

When Joe Rogan got Covid, he got monoclonal antibodies and what happened with him and with so many others, is that the disease stopped in its tracks.

Putting resources towards the sick is almost always more cost effective than putting money towards the general population. Furthermore, when you vaccinate someone, you are using the body's antibody factory to produce antibodies that may not work versus this variant of the virus instead of letting the body decide on its own.

This could cause people who are vaccinated to be more likely to fall ill and have more Covid deaths, and that is what is happening in New Zealand now: https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-the-failure-of-the-mrna-shots-is-on-display-for-all-with-open-eyes.

For most of us though, the biggest thing is stupid government policies stay in place even more so now that things are off the front pages. So why the requirement to be vaccinated to enter Colombia when the vaccines do not do even work anymore? Why the stupid fucking Covid test one day prior to coming back to the USA? Has that been shown to do any good at all?

And the latest on masks was even more stupid. Now you do not have to wear masks on planes, and I think maybe one in ten people had them on coming to Colombia. Then you get off the plane in Colombia and mask up? Uh why?

Coming back to Colombia, most people had on their masks, but I took one off to get a drink, and no one told me and others to put it back on, so we kept them off.

And FWIW, when I went to the mall, I had only one person comment on wearing a mask and saw many, many more people maskless than I have before.

I do not think though that people get how badly we handled things financially. Bill Maher did and posted this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhhoQbzupug.

And that is just the $6 trillion in stimulus Congress gave out. There was the $3 trillion worth of assets the Fed printed money for and bought.

Bill Gates was on CNN saying the pandemic may not be over and given how his stock in Microsoft went from $150 to $330 a share maybe he does not want it to be over.

Hopefully, we will now get an honest review of what worked and what did not and see what we got for our money. To me, by far, the most cost effective use of government money was for monoclonal antibodies, and I hope that lesson is learned, but I do not think it will be.

RamDavidson84
05-08-22, 20:13
Save it. LOL If you are so concerned about "health" and baised, lying bitter media then where is your outrage for Tucker Carlson's sucking up to Putin, and other constant lies from that realm, some of which are clearly treasonous. If you have outrage there's plenty of opportunity to spread it around.

You are parroting right wing media. Why all the lying from Trump associates and cronies regarding contact with Russian agents if nothing was going on? Why all the constant, off the cuff pardons? Given the proof beyond a reasonable doubt standard, the US is full of cases they don't go to trial where parties are likely guilty. Trump was never exonerated, as he and his followers like to claim. Mueller was clear on that point. In any case we got him out of the WH. In spite all the violence and coup attempts, our system held up. Have a read. The Manafort pardon is rather telling.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/548794-there-was-trump-russia-collusion-and-trump-pardoned-the-colluder/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/08/19/yes-there-was-collusion/

P.S. If you want useful responses quit the barstool filibustering with these walls of texts. Make your point in a hurry and move on to the next one.Show me recent evidence of Tucker Carlson sucking up to Putin?

Show me something which is "clearly treasonous" that has come from any recent American politician, right or left? I want to see the hard evidence.

You actually believe that Trump got together with Putin and stole the 2016 election? Like what did they do? Have spam bots change people's minds LOL? Spam bots rigged the election LOL? You don't think there is a massive amount of global influence that would love to see the Democratic Party win elections in the USA. You don't think they do what they legally can to support Democratic Candidates? You don't think countries like Mexico, China, Iran would love to see guys like Obama and Biden in office? The whole world pays attention to our elections and they all do what they can to influence the candidates they want to see win. Maybe Russia did put some spam bots out, but this type of stuff is always going to be around. Turn on any TV Channel, ABC, CBS, NBC, BBC, ETC. They all have liberal spins on all their media platforms. I and the United States Government investigation saw absolutely no evidence to bring charges against Trump for rigging an election. Its silly shit Republicans had to deal with for winning an election.

The January 6th attack on the capital as I have said many times was disgraceful and if one day it comes out that Trump had something to do it, I won't be shocked to say the least. As of right now he is innocent until proven guilty though. Personally I think if he had done something to intentionally plan that attack, the evidence would have come out by now and he would have been charged with a crime.

The Trump Impeachment was a total joke in my view as well. Hunter Biden is a crooked junkie piece of shit rich kid who was doing a ton of shady shit. Honestly, who fucking cares if Trump did want to take down that little scum bag if he is doing illegal business dealings in Ukraine? You wouldn't want to know that if his dad is running for President? Don't you think that is important information voters should be made aware of? Instead, Democrats wasted everyone's time and put on a Big Drama Show Impeachment which everyone knew was bullshit and was an impeachment they knew they were never going to win anyway. I bet the media loved the ratings from it though LOL. I wonder if they factored that into it when they decided to impeach him?

All that being said, Trump is not and never was my ideal candidate, I did not vote for him in 2016. The unfairness and the difficulty the Democrats gave him while he was in office was exactly why I voted for him in 2020. And his economic policies. I still didn't like him, I just hated how biased the Democrats had become. They lost their their souls when Trump won in 2016 and it became a party on a mission to see Trump fail rather than work together to put policies into place which would entice voters to elect their candidates.

P.S. - LOL If my posts are too long, then don't read them. It probably takes less than 45 seconds to read my posts.

RamDavidson84
05-08-22, 20:20
With very few exceptions, strength is not the main component in any sport. I played a lot of sports in my younger days and I can't think of one where the best are the strongest, except for a few reasonably minor sports. Even powerlifting has as much to do with form as muscle mass. Most team sports, if you load the team based solely on strength, you'll lose.

With repetitive motion sports, especially those which require endurance, muscle mass is a disadvantage. How many top soccer players are built like American football offensive linemen? How many swimmers? How about tennis players? Put 325# Larry Allen, Offensive Guard in the NFL (who could bench press over 700#) on the tennis court, give him the best coaches, train him for 5 years and any decent high school player could beat him in straight sets.

Pick one, just one, pick one trans athlete who has managed to dominate their sport. I'm not talking about one event, or one season, I'm talking household name. I used the example of Michael Phelps. Instead I could have said Michael Jordan, Hank Aaron, Tiger Woods, Serena Williams, Megan Rapinoe, Jeff Gordon. Show me a trans athlete who, I'll make it easy, for 3 consecutive years has been considered the best in their sport.

There's nothing far left in anything I've written on this subject. Two people made assertions. One person is a complete nutcase, but there's no sense in discussing mental health issues with you. The assertion is simple: trans athletes (male to female) have an unfair advantage over female athletes. I'm asking for proof. Is asking for proof political? Are your politics now based upon avoiding proof of any assertions?

If that's the case, we're at an impasse. I'm easy to please. If you say something is true, show me and I'll be suitably impressed. If you instead argue that you don't need to show me examples or evidence to support your claims, because my politics are wrong (isn't there a logical fallacy covered by that), I'm not going to instead switch to a discussion about changing my political views (I'm sure that's a logical fallacy) and forget about the support for your claims I've requested..If you want proof, go look at every single athletic record in history. Any type of evidence which can be measured. Running, lifting, swimming, cycling. All the records are held by men. The burden of evidence is on you due to those records. Show us something which proves women are equal athletes to men.

Villainy
05-08-22, 21:11
I am just basing this off watching some of his interviews and reading the headlines, but Musk is a very strong proponent of Free Market Capitalism and the Private Sector playing a larger role in Society. He has stated this in numerous interviews. He was also furious with the government of California for temporarily shutting down his Tesla factory during the Pandemic to the point he moved a large part of his operations to Texas. I think the government regulations really cut into profits, and he may be justified in his argument that there was an unnecessary over reach of government regulation which hindered his progress and in general is an unnecessary hinderance on many big time capitalists. I think he saw how social media was used to not just shut his business down, but businesses down around the globe. I think this was the turning point for him and in his view, the liberal media needed more balance because its' bias was a detriment to society..I don't think you've done your research. To start with, I think Musk is one of the greatest engineers of our lifetime. I think he is on a par with the likes of Edison and Franklin. But he is way out of his depth as a CEO. He got into a pissing match with the SEC. Since the SEC regulates publicly traded companies, this was just plain stupid. I don't even remember the issues involved and it matters not whether he was right or wrong. You just don't tell the police that you are allowed to exceed the speed limit because there isn't any traffic on the road and they are fucking stupid to stop you. A CEO is supposed to be working for the benefit of the shareholders.

He has made a tender offer to purchase Twitter and apparently it has been accepted.

Twitter isn't an incredibly profitable company. I can't imagine where you came up with that idea. I just took a quick look at their financial statements. They have been profitable 2 of the last 10 years. (2012-2021). Does he have some ideas on how to reenergize Twitter? Maybe, but Twitter is competing against Facebook / Instagram / Messenger and Google / YouTube / GMail and TikTok and. Etc. And. Etc.

It's his money, well some of it is anyway, so let him have his party.

As to bringing political balance to social media. I think you're off your rocker on that as well. What is his complaint? That Twitter blocked certain messages because of their content? I believe the reason given by Twitter was that they blocked and removed messages that were dangerous and demonstrably untruthful. Maybe he thinks every Elvis deserves a place to advocate dangerous practices, like taking Ivermectin to fight CoVid or what was that other loony one? Hydroxycloroquine? Whatever.

Maybe he thinks his engineering acumen extends to social engineering as well? Well some part of his fortune will be on the line and surely his prestige as well.

JustTK
05-08-22, 21:19
I like the table here with regards to death and the vaccines: https://brownstone.org/articles/have-people-been-given-the-wrong-vaccine/.
But this study does not agree with my already invested opinion Elvis. This means it must be written by anti-vaxxers and ur a fuckin moron!

MarquisdeSade1
05-09-22, 00:14
If you want proof, go look at every single athletic record in history. Any type of evidence which can be measured. Running, lifting, swimming, cycling. All the records are held by men. The burden of evidence is on you due to those records. Show us something which proves women are equal athletes to men.https://www.newsmax.com/reagan/binary-gender-oklahoma/2022/05/07/id/1068853/

https://amgreatness.com/2022/05/07/yes-we-con

Medicaid will pay for a man to get tits because he feels like a woman but if a woman loses her tits due to cancer that's "cosmetic" surgery to fix it and not covered.

JustTK
05-09-22, 04:12
Wow, I mean wow. Anyone interested in political history should watch the first 11 min 30 sec of this. Very informative and powerful. I wish I had learnt about the history of May Day when I was at university.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7KbCFdWyRQ

RamDavidson84
05-09-22, 04:23
I don't think you've done your research. To start with, I think Musk is one of the greatest engineers of our lifetime. I think he is on a par with the likes of Edison and Franklin. But he is way out of his depth as a CEO. He got into a pissing match with the SEC. Since the SEC regulates publicly traded companies, this was just plain stupid. I don't even remember the issues involved and it matters not whether he was right or wrong. You just don't tell the police that you are allowed to exceed the speed limit because there isn't any traffic on the road and they are fucking stupid to stop you. A CEO is supposed to be working for the benefit of the shareholders.

He has made a tender offer to purchase Twitter and apparently it has been accepted.

Twitter isn't an incredibly profitable company. I can't imagine where you came up with that idea. I just took a quick look at their financial statements. They have been profitable 2 of the last 10 years. (2012-2021). Does he have some ideas on how to reenergize Twitter? Maybe, but Twitter is competing against Facebook / Instagram / Messenger and Google / YouTube / GMail and TikTok and. Etc. And. Etc..You could be right. I did previously state I have my doubts about him purchasing Twitter and holding so much influence over society. Not just him personally, but any one person in general.

LOL My bad I assumed Twitter was profitable, It did just sell for 44 Billion, so it has got to be earning some kind of doe. And if it isn't Musk obviously sees potential in it.

I am skeptical as well that he has spread himself out into too many industries and he is kinda going a little "megalomanic" with all his success. Tesla, Space-ex, NueraLink, The Boring Tunnel Company Thing, Solar City, and now this. It does raise concern with me.

Overall though, I think he needs to be given the benefit of the doubt due to his history of success. Like I stated before, if he can create a more balanced platform where people can exchange ideas in a less toxic environment which can lead to better solutions to societies problems, more qualified responsible Politicians, new technological innovations, etc: then I think it is worth a shot. I think to achieve those goals we have to protect our rights to freedom of speech which he seems to agree with.

And the reaction of Democrats to Musk buying Twitter has really solidified this viewpoint for me. The immediate slander campaign-cancel culture-playbook they run to anyone who doesn't want to follow the narrative was immediately used against Musk. They have been playing a very dirty game since 2016 and I would like to see someone put some more restraint on the Democratic party and their tactics to silence anyone who doesn't openly support them. If they weren't so bloodthirsty for cancel-culture I think it would do America a lot of good.

RamDavidson84
05-09-22, 04:27
https://www.newsmax.com/reagan/binary-gender-oklahoma/2022/05/07/id/1068853/

https://amgreatness.com/2022/05/07/yes-we-con

Medicaid will pay for a man to get tits because he feels like a woman but if a woman loses her tits due to cancer that's "cosmetic" surgery to fix it and not covered.Some times when I have to make these arguments I feel like I am in a science fiction movie and then I realize, this is actually happening. It's like "Planet of the Apes". Let's make a movie where Apes are smart and humans are stupid. Let's make a movie where women are physically superior to men and men are all beta simps LOL.

Huacho
05-09-22, 05:05
Musk is a very strong proponent of Free Market Capitalism and the Private Sector playing a larger role in Society.Well, he certainly has you convinced. He's very convincing, I will give him that. He's a South African fascist who's trying to cast himself as a patriotic American. He's a rich carpetbagger and economic jihadist. And per wikipedia:

"In May 2018, Musk and Canadian musician Grimes revealed that they were dating. Grimes gave birth to their son in May 2020. According to Musk and Grimes, his name was "X A-12"; however, the name would have violated California regulations as it contained characters that are not in the modern English alphabet, and was then changed to "X A-Xii". This drew more confusion, as is not a letter in the modern English alphabet. The child was eventually named "X AE A-XII" Musk, with "X" as a first name, "AE A-XII" as a middle name, and "Musk" as surname."

Maybe a couple of tacos shy of a combo plate?

JustTK
05-09-22, 05:22
Medicaid will pay for a man to get tits because he feels like a woman.But that's BS. Not true. I know nothimg about medicaid, but I know that's not true just bcos its such an ignorant and disrespectful thing to say.

MarquisdeSade1
05-09-22, 11:53
But that's BS. Not true. I know nothimg about medicaid, but I know that's not true just bcos its such an ignorant and disrespectful thing to say.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJL4UGSbeFg

If the shoe fits!

Villainy
05-09-22, 18:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJL4UGSbeFg

If the shoe fits!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqFLXayD6e8

Why don't you go back to telling us all about your extensive trips to Colombia and all the cities you've visited and places and things you've seen and done.

Some of us need a good laugh.

MarquisdeSade1
05-09-22, 18:14
Some times when I have to make these arguments I feel like I am in a science fiction movie and then I realize, this is actually happening. It's like "Planet of the Apes". Let's make a movie where Apes are smart and humans are stupid. Let's make a movie where women are physically superior to men and men are all beta simps LOL.Life imitating art started with the election of Barry Hussein in 2008.

MarquisdeSade1
05-09-22, 20:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqFLXayD6e8

Why don't you go back to telling us all about your extensive trips to Colombia and all the cities you've visited and places and things you've seen and done.

Some of us need a good laugh.But at least according to the putas in the countries I've been to, I am GOD LMAO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqeC3BPYTmE

Does that make me special? LOL.

Or maybe its that most mongers are that unimpressive? Ie Villany LOL.

I just the saw the fotos you posted.

And then sometimes I wonder? Maybe I'm way overqualified for this hobby LOL.

Thanks for the good laughs you whack job.

RamDavidson84
05-09-22, 21:31
Well, he certainly has you convinced. He's very convincing, I will give him that. He's a South African fascist who's trying to cast himself as a patriotic American. He's a rich carpetbagger and economic jihadist. And per wikipedia:

"In May 2018, Musk and Canadian musician Grimes revealed that they were dating. Grimes gave birth to their son in May 2020. According to Musk and Grimes, his name was "X A-12"; however, the name would have violated California regulations as it contained characters that are not in the modern English alphabet, and was then changed to "X A-Xii". This drew more confusion, as is not a letter in the modern English alphabet. The child was eventually named "X AE A-XII" Musk, with "X" as a first name, "AE A-XII" as a middle name, and "Musk" as surname."

Maybe a couple of tacos shy of a combo plate?There is no evidence to label him a fascist. What exactly is an "economic jihadist"?

MarquisdeSade1
05-09-22, 22:42
Some times when I have to make these arguments I feel like I am in a science fiction movie and then I realize, this is actually happening. It's like "Planet of the Apes". Let's make a movie where Apes are smart and humans are stupid. Let's make a movie where women are physically superior to men and men are all beta simps LOL.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM&t=158s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aAH_G5hcAg&t=26s

Huacho
05-10-22, 02:38
The last IQ I had done came back at 16.3, but I have hit over 17 several times.Fixed that for you.

Paulie97
05-10-22, 02:43
Why don't you go back to telling us all about your extensive trips to Colombia and all the cities you've visited and places and things you've seen and done.

Some of us need a good laugh.In the American politics forum he also claims to have been all over Russia and the Ukraine and while pontificating on the war and linking to Russian state news and Breitbart. LOL It's what I'd call basement populism, is highly fraudulent, unamerican and subversive, and they and their leaders, Matt Gaetz, Madison Cawthorn, Candice Owens, Marjorie Taylor Greene, etc. Need to be deported to Moscow where their loyalties lie.

RamDavidson84
05-10-22, 05:11
Fixed that for you.LOL, Thank you sir. I was waiting for somebody to fix that error.

MarquisdeSade1
05-10-22, 10:53
In the American politics forum he also claims to have been all over Russia and the Ukraine and while pontificating on the war and linking to Russian state news and Breitbart. LOL It's what I'd call basement populism, is highly fraudulent, unamerican and subversive, and they and their leaders, Matt Gaetz, Madison Cawthorn, Candice Owens, Marjorie Taylor Greene, etc. Need to be deported to Moscow where their loyalties lie.Look you low life scumbag, why don't you disconnect from your neighbors WIFI in the trailer park in the swamp down there and give us all a break.

https://amgreatness.com/2022/05/09/msnbc-guest-says-she-wants-to-make-sweet-love-with-scotus-leaker-and-then-joyfully-abort-fetus/

https://amgreatness.com/2022/05/09/the-anatomy-of-a-wave-election/

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ben-carson-scotus-abortion-protests/2022/05/07/id/1068884/?ns_mail_uid=7acb8d22-87e7-46a5-9e60-9327e65ed551&ns_mail_job=DM330824_05082022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=01010437cpb3

You're a scumbag liar, everytime you post you lie.

Yes I've been to Russia a few times and have a visa waiting to return ASAP.

But I have never said I was all over Russia and Ukraine.

Villainy
05-10-22, 13:03
Life imitating art started with the election of Barry Hussein in 2008.Is this who you mean? The Black Irish President?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DerVmiZeUDw

PedroMorales
05-10-22, 14:36
In the American politics forum he also claims to have been all over Russia and the Ukraine and while pontificating on the war and linking to Russian state news and Breitbart. LOL It's what I'd call basement populism, is highly fraudulent, unamerican and subversive, and they and their leaders, Matt Gaetz, Madison Cawthorn, Candice Owens, Marjorie Taylor Greene, etc. Need to be deported to Moscow where their loyalties lie.Says the sewer dweller.

Huacho
05-10-22, 16:47
But that's BS. Not true. I know nothimg about medicaid, but I know that's not true just bcos its such an ignorant and disrespectful thing to say.Unfortunately it is true, under certain circumstances. I do agree you know nothing, though.

Villainy
05-10-22, 18:22
You're a scumbag liar, everytime you post you lie…WOW. You've lied about your age, your travels, your experiences and almost everything else. Kind of cheeky for you to call someone else a liar.

MarquisdeSade1
05-10-22, 18:49
Is this who you mean? The Black Irish President?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DerVmiZeUDwThat attended a madrasah with daily prayers in Jakarta.

And his biological father was also Muslim.

JustTK
05-10-22, 19:02
Unfortunately it is true, under certain circumstances. I do agree you know nothing, though.Ok, if it's true, please show me an example. "Medicaid will pay for a man to get tits".

Nounce
05-10-22, 19:15
I am not sure what you mean by that. I have met DF in real life. We have somewhat different approaches but we both spend the money, do the work, and have helped each other to get the best women we can....I mean imaging you like to go to this popular restaurant and there is always this person stations in the restaurant telling everybody the food is terrible, don't eat there. LOL.

Do you think the argument here will turn out differently had you met with some of them before from the viewpoint of both sides? I remember you have met DF, that is why I posted.

Nounce
05-10-22, 19:28
... He was also furious with the government of California for temporarily shutting down his Tesla factory during the Pandemic to the point he moved a large part of his operations to Texas. ..

I am not very familiar with his business dealings in China...


This is what I mean. Will he react to similar issue the same way? Would he be furious at the government and let it be known? I am not holding him to a higher standard, will just think it is smart to be quiet. As an observer, I will observe what he actually does than what he says.

And keep in mind that California is a high tax state but I don't know if there is advantage for him.

LoveItHere69
05-10-22, 20:54
You claim to know just about everything and practically live on this forum. Even on your vacation you could not get away from posting for one night it seems. Soooo with all your vast knowledge, how on earth did you let a lesbian ruin your last night there? I would have kicked her to the curb easily under 30 minutes. She would not have ruined one of my night and let alone not my last night. How exactly did you let this happen? Enquiring minds want to know. Maybe you need to RTFF.

MarquisdeSade1
05-10-22, 21:38
WOW. You've lied about your age, your travels, your experiences and almost everything else. Kind of cheeky for you to call someone else a liar.List where I have lied, instead of just saying I've lied.

Lets see what you have? Yeah I don't think so dirtbag!

"Show me your friends and I will tell you who you are." As this Greek saying states, our friends form us. We are a product of the people we surround ourselves with.

We all know who you roll around in the gutter in MDE with!!

Villainy
05-11-22, 00:57
List where I have lied, instead of just saying I've lied.

Lets see what you have? The question isn't which statement you made is a lie. The qustion is: which one (if any) isn't a lie. I say any statement you made about visiting a foreign country and partaking of the local Pay-4-play collective is an out and out lie. I say prove that you've been anywhere. Who on ISG has met you and can vouch for you?? I'll wait for it.


"Show me your friends and I will tell you who you are." As this Greek saying states, our friends form us. We are a product of the people we surround ourselves with.
We all know who you roll around in the gutter in MDE with!!Sorry, dipstick I'm not into Greek.

JjBee62
05-11-22, 03:02
You claim to know just about everything and practically live on this forum. Even on your vacation you could not get away from posting for one night it seems. Soooo with all your vast knowledge, how on earth did you let a lesbian ruin your last night there? I would have kicked her to the curb easily under 30 minutes. She would not have ruined one of my night and let alone not my last night. How exactly did you let this happen? Enquiring minds want to know. Maybe you need to RTFF.Well, let's start from the beginning. I'll keep it as simple as possible. It always helps to know your audience.

I've never claimed to know just about everything here. You literally stuck your head up your ass from the first sentence. You should save the really stupid part for the end. Otherwise, it's kind of a letdown. Watch any action movie and see how the excitement level builds to a climactic ending. Then replace "excitement" with "ignorance" and you can at least make your idiocy more interesting.

Let's follow your stupid and see where it goes next. I had to go back and check, and the verdict is that I didn't post on 5 nights of my vacation. Only 2 sentences in and you already failed twice, actually 3 times. How frequently someone posts has no connection to their knowledge level. Just because you stick your head up your ass every time you post, doesn't mean you're a proctologist.

Next up, my "vast knowledge. " I've never claimed to have vast knowledge about anything. I've claimed to know a lot about some specific subjects: the webcam industry and nuclear power are 2 that come to mind. Four total failures in 3 sentences and a fifth one as well. Knowledge and the application of knowledge are separate things. I know people who can tell you everything about cars, but they can't do something as simple as replace a water pump.

But we're not done yet. How do you figure my night was ruined? It wasn't. It didn't work out how I had hoped, but I certainly didn't consider it ruined. That's 6, count 'them, 6 complete fuck ups from you in only 3 sentences. Does anyone know what the record is?

All of that pathetic shit from you isn't the worst of it. The worst of it is that it was all unnecessary. You could have asked for more information on my night. I'm always happy to answer questions. Instead, you thought you were going to burn me and ended up making a fool of yourself.

Here's how this works. If you are feeling froggy and decide to take a swing at me, I hit back. As I was telling a friend a few days ago, I don't want to be an asshole, but if you want me to be an asshole, I'm going to be a good one.

On the other hand, as some of the people here can tell you, if you just want to talk and have a good time, I can do that fairly well too.

Now that's all out of the way, let's satisfy your enquiring mind.

1. The lesbian, Z, has been a friend for going on 5 years. We've spent quite a bit of time hanging out and checking out women together. In the past she had even introduced me to a couple of girls, 1 who gave the best deep throat I've ever had.

2. We haven't seen each other in over 4 years, so it was good to just catch up (and check out women together).

3. My goal has never been to fuck as many women as possible. I enjoy experiences. If just fucking a girl was my goal, I would have taken the lesbian and the best girl in Fase 2 to one of the rooms for a modified threesome. I'd probably have only fucked the 1 girl, but there would have been some heavy girl on girl action.

4. Although there were a few times when I was getting annoyed, that was because I wanted to get to sleep at a reasonable hour. As I've said before, I am a bit paranoid about flying. Not the flying, but missing the flight. If you ever see me running through an airport, you should start running too, because I'm always early.

5. I don't kick friends to the curb. If the twins hadn't insisted, at the last minute, they wanted paid in advance, I had already let Z know I would probably be leaving at a certain time.

6. Had I kicked Z to the curb I would have headed back to the apartment and gone to sleep earlier. Instead I ended up being the first guy she had ever fucked. It wasn't the best fuck of my life, but it wasn't the worst. It was an experience, something I'll remember. That's more important to me than just finding a pussy to pound that I won't remember in 6 months.

Does that explain it well enough?

Huacho
05-11-22, 12:42
Ok, if it's true, please show me an example. "Medicaid will pay for a man to get tits".I don't have an example such as a name but you can do your own research and discover that among other things, Medicaid will pay for almost every drug a doctor prescribes. That includes female hormones. So, if a doctor prescribes female hormones for a male, Medicaid will for sure cover it. And you give males female hormones, and they get tits. Medicaid is administered by the individual states and some go farther than others. You aren't from the Yew Ess and don't know shit about Medicaid, and are wrong as almost always.

JustTK
05-11-22, 15:52
Soooo with all your vast knowledge, how on earth did you let a lesbian ruin your last night there?.Bcos he is too busy stroking his own ego to realise that he is a complete dlck.

JjBee62
05-11-22, 16:37
Bcos he is too busy stroking his own ego to realise that he is a complete dlck.Awww. What's the matter Just Touches Kids? Did your tender little feelings get hurt because I pointed out the idiocy of using YouTube as your only source? You've been too scared to directly address me for months. All you can do is whisper your little snips and run away, just like a little child.

I guess all of your rubbing off on children has caused childish behavior to rub off on you.

LoveItHere69
05-11-22, 21:54
5. I don't kick friends to the curb.
6. Instead I ended up being the first guy she had ever fucked. It wasn't the best fuck of my life, but it wasn't the worst. It was an experience, something I'll remember.5. 95% of people you know are acquaintances, not friends. An easy way to tell is if you got stuck in a rain or snow storm at 4 am and asked for a ride or help getting unstuck, how many people do you know that would come? I guarantee very very few.

6. Her bad performance was she has been with very few guys or she did not like you very much. Based on her trying to waste your time, offering girls who wanted paid first, ordering drinks for everyone with your money, and her poor performance. You guessed it. She does not like you. Duh!

She pulled the "you are first guy I have had sex with because I am a virgin" trick on you and you bought it? Really? What a memory to cherish forever.

JustTK
05-11-22, 22:02
Medicaid will pay for almost every drug a doctor prescribes. That includes female hormones. So, if a doctor prescribes female hormones for a male, Medicaid will for sure cover it. And you give males female hormones, and they get tits.So why would a doctor prescribe female hormones to a man? That is plainly ridiculous. I want you to gve me an example of a doctor that has prescribed female hormones to a man.

And if female hormones makes one grow tits, why can't a woman take them after breast surgery? And why then do trans women have surgery to have breasts?

Elvis 2008
05-12-22, 02:13
So why would a doctor prescribe female hormones to a man? That is plainly ridiculous. I want you to gve me an example of a doctor that has prescribed female hormones to a man.JustTK, I have tried to tell you how fucking stupid the Democrats are, and this trans shit is at the top of the list. You just do not want to believe it:https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/feminizing-hormone-therapy/about/pac-20385096.


And if female hormones makes one grow tits, why can't a woman take them after breast surgery?Very simplistically, female hormones can cause female cancers like breast cancer to grow.


And why then do trans women have surgery to have breasts?Estrogen just does not affect breasts but moods.

My sister in law just attended a mandatory conference with her employer. She was told to call breast feeding chest feeding because men can feed babies too. She was told to call her daughter they instead of she because her baby has not made up her mind about what sex she wants.

Yeah, it is that fucking crazy.

JjBee62
05-12-22, 03:32
5. 95% of people you know are acquaintances, not friends. An easy way to tell is if you got stuck in a rain or snow storm at 4 am and asked for a ride or help getting unstuck, how many people do you know that would come? I guarantee very very few.

6. Her bad performance was she has been with very few guys or she did not like you very much. Based on her trying to waste your time, offering girls who wanted paid first, ordering drinks for everyone with your money, and her poor performance. You guessed it. She does not like you. Duh!

She pulled the "you are first guy I have had sex with because I am a virgin" trick on you and you bought it? Really? What a memory to cherish forever.You just keep trying don't you? Do you enjoy the humiliation? If so, I'll hook Z up with Osteo so she can borrow his strap on, and I'm sure she'd be happy to pack your ass and make you her little pet, if you can pull your head out long enough.

Let's start off with your definition of friend. I haven't been stuck in a snow storm in Medellin yet. Has this been a frequent problem for you? I also don't get stuck in snow storms, and I'll guarantee I've driven through more than you have. And rain storms? How much of a pansy do you have to be to get stuck in a rain storm? I've driven through the tails of hurricanes delivering emergency relief supplies. I've driven within a few miles of tornadoes. I remember driving through Chicago on the night they got 17 inches of rain. The only time I got stuck was off-roading at night in the mountains near the Idaho-Wyoming border, 1982. Instead of crying for mommy to come save me, I walked 10 miles out, and would have walked another 10, except a rancher was headed home from a bar 10 miles further away. He gave me a sleeping bag, made some breakfast for me and, in the morning, drove another 10 miles to the only pay phone in the area. I called an "acquaintance" who drove 90 miles to pick me up. 3 days later, when we had a day off, we came back and dug my truck out.

As for friends vs. Acquaintances in Medellin, I know who my friends are. If I called Z at 4 am, provided she was awake, she would call someone and a car would come get me. If I was hurt, she would be in the car and would take me to the hospital. If I called her and told her I needed a tow truck, she would have called one. Which would be silly. It's a rental. I have an emergency service number to call. How stupid do you have to be. If you've managed to run your car off the road in the rain, to call up a woman with no car to come save you?

Of course, I probably wouldn't have to rely on her. I've always been able to take care of myself. If I fall down, instead of lying around crying, hoping someone will pick me up, I get up and move on. Maybe someday you'll learn to do that too.

Geez. Call some friend to pull you out? Are you that broke? You pull out your phone, find a company that provides the service you need and you call them and pay to fix the problem. Why wake someone up at 4 am, drag them out of bed and have them come out to do something they don't have the tools or expertise to do? Here I thought you were an international monger and it turns out you think like a drunken redneck.

I'll give you on thing. You're world class at putting both feet in your mouth, before you even get to the point.

As for your point 6, at least you're consistent, consistently wrong and wrong in multiple ways. When that high school councilor told you to pick something you're good at, it's a shame all you could come up with was "making myself look stupid."

Let's start with "offering girls who wanted paid first." When did she do that? Are those reading comprehension skills lacking? There's no connection. I had set up with the twins. I was having dinner with Z. While having dinner with Z, one of the twins insisted on being paid in advance. I refused.

You're like a moth, that keeps getting killed by a bug zapper. You get reincarnated and immediately fly off in search of the pretty blue light.

Next up, "trying to waste my time. " We met up and had a beer. We walked a bit and found a restaurant. We ate dinner. We talked. When I got the "pay first" message we talked about girls and she started calling to see who she could find. She found one that was working at Fase 2. We went to Fase 2. No time wasted.

Time was wasted in Fase 2, sure. It's fairly normal. We were probably there for 25-30 minutes. She had friends to talk to, 2 waiters, the bartender and the bouncer, plus several girls. And it's quite interesting watching her "talk" to the girls, especially since the girls ended up rubbing on me, without expecting a tip.

Sure she bought drinks for 3 girls and wanted to buy more. I had money, I normally would have been happy to spend it. While I'm not a make it rain guy, I'll gladly buy a few overpriced drinks. Next time I might take a night to go back with her.

In your headlong rush to make a fool of yourself, you neglected one thing. Language barrier. I can get by in Spanish, carry on a conversation and understand enough to get along fine. But Z always talks fast and I almost certainly misunderstood her. While I thought we were pulling the girl from the club, she, I assume, thought we were going to find a girl and have her in the club.

On a regular night that would have been fine. I literally had my pick of any girl. And a word from Z and we could have had as much time as needed.

The miscommunication continued in the car. I was ready to take her home. She thought we were going to Lleras to find a girl. When she didn't want to be taken home, I went home and she kept telling me I was going the wrong way, pointing me towards Lleras. At the gate I figured out what she had been trying to do, find a girl for a 3 some. But at that point I was done. If she didn't like me she could have bailed any time after dinner. She comes out ahead. At the end she could have had me drop her anywhere and got some more money out of me. Instead, she called a driver and headed home.

But let's go with the "didn't like me" postulate (or preposterous). We've known each less than 5 years and haven't seen each other in over 4 years. Yet she kept in touch. Every few months she'd message and ask how I was. Why? She was in Chile, with a sugar mama. She had never gotten paid by me, a few free beers is all.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm going to assume she likes me. She spent months hanging out with me whenever possible, never with any other man. She pointed out prepagos who she thought I might like. And if all that time was just because she knew she would get some money from me someday, I admire her patience. Although she mentioned she knew some girls, she didn't try to push them on me. It wasn't until I asked her to find one for her and I, before she went to work.

You've probably never experienced being with a girl who likes you, but it's much different than being with a girl who doesn't like you. The girl who doesn't like you will do whatever it takes to get finished and get going.

There was no rush, no attempt to get me off quickly. No hurry to get away afterwards. Afterwards we spent 45 minutes in the jacuzzi and another 15 minutes in the shower. The jacuzzi was cold when we got in and had to warm up. Why stay? She wasn't getting paid extra. Why all the talking?

I guess it makes you feel better when you pretend that nobody likes me, but that doesn't appear to be the case. I'm not wasting anymore time explaining every tiny detail which illustrated she was doing something she wasn't familiar with. It would be lost on you. I'm satisfied with the outcome.

I eagerly your next show of ineptitude.

JjBee62
05-12-22, 04:16
So why would a doctor prescribe female hormones to a man? That is plainly ridiculous. I want you to gve me an example of a doctor that has prescribed female hormones to a man.

And if female hormones makes one grow tits, why can't a woman take them after breast surgery? And why then do trans women have surgery to have breasts?There's this thing, it's called "Google." If you have questions you can ask Google and Google will find the answer. Then you can have the answer and not make yourself look foolish by insisting on one thing without having a clue what you're talking about.

https://transequality.org/know-your-rights/medicare#text=Medicare%20 covers%20 medically%20 necessary%20 hormone, should%20 be%20 covered%20 when%20 prescribed.

"Medicare covers medically necessary hormone therapy.

Medicare also covers medically necessary hormone therapy for transgender people. These medications are part of Medicare Part the lists of covered medications and should be covered when prescribed."

If a doctor decides that feminizing hormone therapy is appropriate for a man, the doctor will prescribe it. If the doctor prescribes it, Medicare will pay it.

As for a specific example of a doctor prescribing the treatment to a man, this is complicated. You see, people who aren't too fucking clueless to use Google to find the answer to a simple question, are also aware of laws protecting patient confidentiality. I can't go to a clinic and request the names of doctors who have prescribed and patients who have received the treatment. It would be illegal for them to release the information.

However, the fact that the therapy exists and Medicare will pay for it indicates that some doctors are prescribing it to some men.

Your next group of inane questions might be a bit complicated for Google, if the person looking for the answer is an idiot, which is the situation we're facing here.

During puberty (or what you call "getting too old for me" estrogen levels in females increase and testosterone levels in males increase. These hormones are responsible for sexual development. If hormone levels are wrong, normal development doesn't occur. You get women with no breasts, infertility issues, facial hair and more. Or you get men with small penises, enlarged breasts, lack of facial hair and reduced sex drive.

High levels of estrogen causes breast tissue to grow. Both men and women have this tissue. If a woman had her breasts removed (radical mastectomy), there is no breast tissue to grow. Let me make it easy. Take 2 pots of potting soil. In one place some seeds, nothing in the other. Water both. If you did it right, the seeds in one sprout and grow. In the other pot, nothing.

Continuing with that analogy, just because the plant grows, doesn't mean it has a nice even appearance. It needs to be trimmed and pruned to improve its appearance.

Same with breasts enlarged through hormone therapy. It gives you a start. But to make them look right is probably going to require surgery.

See now you know the answers to your stupid questions, you know how to about appearing so stupid in the future and possibly you understand why so many people keep saying you're stupid.

Thanks for your participation.

JustTK
05-12-22, 14:38
JustTK, I have tried to tell you how fucking stupid the Democrats are, and this trans shit is at the top of the list. You just do not want to believe it

.Am still waiting for someone to give me an answer. Getting tired of waiting so I will play it out for you all. Someone is going to put foward the name of a trans as an example of a man who was "given tits". Aind I am going to say that is not an example of a man, that is a woman. So there you have it.

MdS, Huacho, any other ignorant consevatves out there. Can you just try this exercise for me please:- I want you to think for a momnet about your inner self. What makes you a man. Are you a man? If the answer is affirmative, what is it that makes you think you are a man? Is it bcos a doctor told your parents you were a boy at birth? Is it bcos you happen to have a dick? Is it bcos you had your blood tested and you read that you have XY chromosomes? I suspect one or more of these might help, but I doubt any is the main reason. For example, imagine now that you did not have a dick. Everything else is the same, just you happen not to have a dick. Would you feel any less like a man? I very much doubt it. You feel like a man bcos you are a man. Same would be if you were born with breasts or a pussy. It would be the same you inside, saying that your a man.